IRC log for #wowace on 20070601

00:00.07Chompersyeah, i spelt it wrong :O
00:00.13vodrin^_^
00:00.29vodrinand yeah, would be awesome with bank support
00:00.35Chompers*hint*
00:00.42Antiarc|WorkIt's coming, eventually :P
00:00.51Antiarc|WorkI'm headed home now though
00:00.57Antiarc|WorkSo I'll catch you all later
00:01.01ChompersThreat1.0>sanity
00:01.04Chompersbyeeee
00:01.08nekohyeah well thats true
00:01.11ckknightAntiarc|Work: why do you use the global arg1 instead of the local one?
00:01.45Antiarc|WorkThere's a local arg1?
00:02.04Antiarc|WorkI was under the impression that blizzard events set argX globals
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00:02.34Antiarc|WorkJerry's patch updated most all the places I was using argX to _G.argX
00:02.47Antiarc|WorkSeemed like it made more semantic sense to me, so I stuck with it.
00:03.04Mikk_G.argX means two table lookups
00:03.08MikkargX means one
00:03.14ckknightno
00:03.17ckknightit means local, Mikk
00:03.25ckknightwell, depending on the situation
00:03.26sbuThreat-1.0-37873 (Threat-1.0):326: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string expected, got nil)
00:03.27Mikkif there is a local one yeah
00:03.42ckknightAntiarc|Work: use the damn local ones. I'm committing soon, though
00:03.56Antiarc|WorkHeh, ok
00:04.00Mikkanyway, Antiarc|Work: As of 2.1, event args get passed as function arguments aswell for performance reasons
00:04.04MikkThey didn't before
00:04.10Antiarc|WorkMikk: Aha, I was unaware of that.
00:04.35CIA-2203ckknight * r37874 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua):
00:04.35CIA-22Threat-1.0 - optimizations with partyUnits.
00:04.35CIA-22- other optimizations
00:05.11ckknightMikk: as of 2.0, not 2.1
00:05.23ckknightand Ace2 had done that since the beginning
00:05.32ckknightAntiarc|Work: I'll handle sbu's bug
00:05.53Antiarc|Workckknight: Was just about to commit it; I'll hold off if you want to
00:06.00Antiarc|WorkIt shows up in several places
00:06.04ckknightyea, I'm changing it to be standardized.
00:06.07Antiarc|WorkGreat
00:06.18Antiarc|WorkCatch you all at home then.
00:06.19Mikkckknight: *cough* pardon, i just thought "recently" =)
00:06.30Mikkand yeah true about aceevents >.<
00:06.37CIA-2203funkydude * r37875 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: add 5th yell
00:07.19GagorianVashj timers work pretty well at least from what I saw today
00:07.49tsigoneeds an Elite timer but I didn't feel like figuring it out :P
00:08.00Funkeh`naga timer?
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00:08.12tsigoFunkeh`: yeah
00:08.29Funkeh`yeah i kept meaning to figure it but i was too busy pewpewing and crying over wipes
00:08.34tsigoyep!
00:08.44Gagorian:>
00:09.29Funkeh`LF guild without retarded mages
00:09.53ChompersFunkeh` IMPOSSIBLE
00:09.56JaxonTHis isn't WoW related, but my friend is a huge damn nerd http://drago.cc/lol/
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00:10.15doktoreashi to all
00:10.32doktoreassorry for the OT, but do you know any site for member recruiting ?
00:10.34doktoreasfor guild
00:10.54Funkeh`are you a mage?
00:11.01tsigohehe
00:11.02sdoublevery true.  You'll find many of the douchebags in wow play mages and warriors.  Mainly because they're like "I want to beat on things with swords!" or "I want to beat on things with magic!"
00:11.31sdoubleSo it's nice when you run across a decent mage or warrior, especially at lower levels
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00:12.24doktoreaswe need a priest :(
00:12.41hyperChipmunki'd say rogues, but i don't think ANY decent ones exist
00:12.44hyperChipmunkregardless of level
00:12.48CIA-2203ckknight * r37876 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - fix error messages to be standardized and not error themselves.
00:12.54Funkeh`out guild rogues are awesome
00:12.57Funkeh`our*
00:13.02CIA-2203ominous * r37877 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: fix for last commit and some conflicting settigns
00:14.51Chompersnoooo, there seems to be a limit to the number of filters i can use
00:14.56Funkeh`if i had the time and patience i would reroll a pvp server
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00:20.44JaxonWell, thats fun.
00:20.49harldephindobranoc
00:20.50JaxonAll my tooltips have a pink/purple border now.
00:20.57ckknightAntiarc|Work: btw, you don't understand the purpose of SetModuleMixins
00:21.17cladhaireol
00:21.24cladhaireckknight: i dont know why i found that funny =)
00:21.49Kebinusanseems urlcopy in prat is bjorked again or something
00:22.00Funkeh`worked for me today
00:22.05CIA-2203ckknight * r37878 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - don't :SetModuleMixins on ThreatLib, instead specify the mixins directly in ThreatClassModuleCore
00:22.17Kebinusanit stops copying some urls prematurely like: http://zip.4chan.org/co/src/1180656717083.jpg stops after http://zip.4chan.org/co/src/118
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00:24.04Arrowmasterhmm i just tried to set maintank and mainassist in raidpanel and its blaming prat for being tainted
00:24.35Funkeh`doubt thats correct
00:25.31CIA-2203ckknight * r37879 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0 - make ThreatNPCModuleCore a module of ThreatLib. Also, don't set globals.
00:27.59CIA-2203ckknight * r37880 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0 - make sure arg1/arg2/etc. use the local versions and not the globals.
00:28.38sdoubleThat's fantastic.  I could "write" an addon and ckknight will finish it for me!
00:28.45ckknightlol
00:28.52sbuOmen.lua 84 bad argument #2 to 'UnitIsUnit' (expected string, got nil (nil))
00:28.53ckknightonly if it has importance
00:28.58sdoublehehe
00:29.19ckknightgot a debugstack, sbu?
00:29.33sbuno :/ not happening here :/
00:29.45sbuThreatClassModuleCore.lua line 596 - table index is nil
00:30.27JaxonSo, what would make all my tooltips have pink borders now?
00:31.12ckknightJaxon: touching yourself at night
00:31.25JaxonThen they should've been pink when I started this game.
00:31.30sdoublepft, lies.  My borers aren't pinkish.
00:31.34sdoubleborders rather
00:31.37Funkeh`is it necessary to give this much info in omen? can we not just use a simple revision field? ckknight / Antiarc|Work :) http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7382/wowscrnshot060107012938jl6.jpg
00:32.12kergothoops, guess this isnt a good time to update to current threat-1.0
00:32.14ckknightFunkeh`: blah.
00:32.21ckknightkergoth: I don't see why not
00:32.24ckknight:-P
00:32.27ckknightshould work
00:32.28kergothbecause it just gave me 14 errors?
00:32.33ckknighttop error
00:32.36ckknightgimme
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00:32.42sbuckknight: noticed the 2nd one?
00:32.57kergoth[2007/05/31 17:30:47-1273-x1]: AceModuleCore-2.0-35663 (Ace2):139: AceOO-2.0: Cannot explicitly inherit from the same mixin twice
00:33.08kergothAceModuleCore-2.0-35663 (Ace2):139: in function `NewModule'
00:33.08kergothThreat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:58: in main chunk
00:34.29peoiiok, so forgive me for being blind here, but is TabletLib a direct dependancy of anything?  it seems to be using some of my highest amounts of cpu time, so I got curious as to what was causing it, and found no reference to it.
00:34.29ckknightkergoth: there we go v----
00:34.29CIA-2203ckknight * r37881 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0 - bugfix, don't specify AceDebug-2.0 twice.
00:34.29ckknightpeoii: many, many, many things.
00:34.30ckknightpeoii: almost every FuBar plugin, for instance
00:34.44ckknightsbu: don't know what could cause your error
00:35.03peoiickknight: ok, I was just making sure.  I did a quick search for it within the files to see if I could find it listed as a dependancy, but I couldn't find one.  Thank you.
00:35.27Funkeh`ckknight: well surely we don't need so much info it stretches versionchecker ;)
00:35.43Ominouspeoii: if you are doing cpu profilling with preformance fu ALOT of updates are going through it so it will skyrocket
00:35.49sdoubleThere is no such thing as too much information
00:36.04Ominouspeoii: as that is what makes the tooltip
00:36.08ckknightFunkeh`: not 100% sure where it's getting the info...
00:36.09tsigoNPCModules\Karazhan\Attumen.lua:21: attempt to index global 'ThreatLibNPCModuleCore' (a nil value):
00:36.10sbuckknight: mh not the omen one, that one in threatclassmodulecore
00:36.24peoiiOminous: yea, given that I now know it's part of fubars tooltip engine, that makes perfect sense :)
00:36.28ckknightsbu: update
00:36.33Funkeh`## Version: 2.1 ($Revision: 37805 $ $Date: 2007-05-31 14:07:56 -0400 (Thu, 31 May 2007) $)
00:36.35ckknightsbu: the line number's off
00:36.36Funkeh`toc
00:36.41ckknightFunkeh`: ah.
00:37.32kergothckknight, :) thanks
00:39.16sbuckknight: self.targetThreat[currentTarget] = max(0, (self.targetThreat[currentTarget] or 0) + threat)
00:39.17sbuthat line
00:39.35ckknightk
00:39.54CIA-2203ckknight * r37882 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen - set .version and .revision properly.
00:40.04ckknightsbu: debugstack?
00:40.40ckknightFunkeh`: that should help
00:45.27kergothgetting the error tsigo just reported with current svn
00:47.16CIA-2203ckknight * r37883 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0 - fix indentations
00:48.45sbuckknight: one moment please, i just made him install buggrabber/bugsack ;o
00:50.36sbulol http://sam.zoy.org/lectures/20030403-php/
00:51.45CIA-2203ominous * r37884 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: erm make default be on not off /slap
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00:53.36CIA-2203ckknight * r37885 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/ (Druid.lua Paladin.lua Priest.lua Shaman.lua Warrior.lua):
00:53.37CIA-22Threat-1.0 - change casing of some things to camelCase instead of lowercase.
00:53.37CIA-22- nil tables that won't be used again.
00:53.47wobinsbu: rofl
00:54.01wobin"Ways to get students to pay attention during lecture"?
00:54.18sbuckknight
00:54.19sbu[2007/06/01 02:51:06-1-x7]: Omen-2.1 (37805 $Date: 2007-05-31 14:07:56 -0400 (Thu, 31 May 2007) $)\Omen.lua:84: Bad argument #2 to `UnitIsUnit'. expected "string", got "nil" (nil)
00:54.19sbuAceComm-2.0-37848 (Cartographer):1816: in function <...AddOns\Cartographer\Libs\AceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua:1603>
00:54.28sbumore?
00:54.32sbuerr way, pastey ;p
00:54.33ckknightnah
00:54.46ckknightactually
00:54.47ckknightmaybe
00:54.49ckknightyea, pastey
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00:59.34sbuckknight: first: http://ace.pastey.net/47275
01:00.34CIA-2203ckknight * r37886 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - add asserts (to be removed later)
01:00.36GalkaError on Threat's Attunemen module
01:00.38ckknightalright
01:00.44ckknightmake your friend update to that
01:00.46GalkaAttumen.lua:21: attempt to index global 'ThreatLibNPCModuleCore' (a nil value):
01:01.48ckknighton it
01:02.16sbusecond: http://ace.pastey.net/47273-2pgj
01:03.05CIA-2203ckknight * r37887 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: Threat-1.0 - fix ThreatLibNPCModuleCore reference
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01:06.52dodgizzlasbu: That was some damn good presentation. Though I did not understand anything on it.. :o
01:08.36Chomperslots of boobs
01:09.53Ominousfor those who are intersted this is a comparison of FuBar_RogueTimerFu against classtimer when used in 1.5 instance (crashed and lost data after), http://www.ominous.me.uk/gallery/v/Addons/ctVrft.jpg.html, ClassTimer should be 20 as it went up to 32 when i used sticky bars as that needs optimising alot as i only chucked it togeather earlier
01:10.01dodgizzlaAh so that what it was about.
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01:21.45hyperChipmunkOminous: nobody's interested
01:21.52hyperChipmunkshut your face
01:22.02nymbiaharsh
01:22.08nymbia;)
01:22.27CIA-2203ckknight * r37888 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0 - optimizations to the NPC Core
01:22.32Ominousi generally just ignore him, like when he kicked me for accidently pasting a few line into irc
01:22.54ckknight>3 lines is deserving of a kick. not a kickban, though
01:23.04ckknightdepending.
01:23.11Ominousi did say sorry instalantly
01:23.23nymbiadepends how interesting the lines are, imo ;)
01:23.37NightHawkTheSane^^
01:23.54ckknightyea, pretty much
01:23.57sbuckknight: ThreatClassModuleCore.lua line 620 - table index is nil
01:24.03ckknightwell, also how long you've been in the community and all
01:24.12sbuah wait ok
01:24.19ckknightsbu: debugstack
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01:25.02sbunon yet
01:25.05sbunone
01:25.32sbuupdating now...
01:25.44sbu(assert stuff)
01:26.44sbuckknight: meh, error is gone
01:27.06sbuAntiarc: cross locale still broken... :/
01:27.11Ominoushmm is it work changing from sct to msbt?
01:27.37NightHawkTheSanedepends on how much you like the defaults
01:27.42sbuworks well with "obsidia" (same name in deDE and enUS) - but doesnt work with other mobs...
01:28.05NightHawkTheSanebut its not a huge ammount of work unless you have some really obscure and highly customized layout you want :P
01:28.06Diaodepends how much customization you've done with sct Ominous
01:28.11Ominousnot much
01:28.22Ominousalmost nothing at all
01:32.34Thorgard^2<3 MSBT
01:34.42nekohckknight: "local new, del = PitBull.new, PitBull.del" in ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua, dont think PitBull should be in there :P
01:34.50ckknightcrap
01:35.25CIA-2203ckknight * r37889 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0 - typo. PitBull => ThreatLib
01:37.34Chompers:O
01:37.41Garoun|LoupanaSTACK_OVERFLOW crash in wow, isn't that typically an Addon caused error?
01:37.52ChompersPitbull on the brain :P
01:37.53Garoun|Loupana#132 like usual
01:38.50Antiarcckknight: I saw you nilled some tables in class modules - I haven't looked at them yet, but be sure they aren't used on ScanTalents(), since that can be called multiple times in a session
01:38.57AntiarcAlso, evening all.
01:39.14ckknightAntiarc: I made sure that the ones I nilled were only used once
01:39.20ckknightwith no other references
01:39.46AntiarcAlrighty
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01:42.38ChompersAntiarc: is there a limit to the number of filters you can use on a bag?
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01:42.39AntiarcChompers: Not in design, but there is in practice right now due to a bug
01:42.47Chompersoh right, thanks
01:42.48sbuuhm Antiarc, /dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").threatTargets returns nil - is this correct? :o
01:42.55AntiarcYeah, that table is local now
01:42.57ckknightthat's my doing.
01:43.03AntiarcI just added a debug method
01:43.03ckknight;-)
01:43.05AntiarcTesting it now
01:43.29CryectDon't you hate when people go overboard with making things local you want :-p
01:44.03CIA-2203antiarc * r37890 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Add debug method for debugging threat tables vs display
01:44.04Antiarc<PROTECTED>
01:44.14AntiarcOr: /script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpThreatTable("CharacterName")
01:45.05Chompersi wonder if threat1.0 gets a 2-set bonus when ck and Antiarc work together on it
01:45.19ckknightlol
01:45.50Antiarc[2] Increases your code's design quality by 33%
01:45.50nekoh~~
01:46.14purlEvery moment in which I'm called upon is torture.
01:46.15nekohi think its more than 33% :P
01:46.46NightHawkTheSane~~~
01:47.24purlI HATE YOU, nighthawkthesane!!!
01:47.25hyperChipmunkhahah
01:47.25NeoTronpurl sure is emo today
01:47.57purl...but sure is already something else...
01:47.57Funkeh`what teh fuck?
01:47.57Funkeh`purl you are fucking crazy
01:48.40purlFunkeh`: what are you talking about?
01:48.40hyperChipmunk~literal ~
01:49.16purl"~" is "<reply> Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture."
01:49.16Chompershope its a good set bonus like tier3, not a sucky one like tier1
01:49.24sbuthank you Antiarc
01:49.24AntiarcI'm testing on my priest now, FWIW :)
01:49.24hyperChipmunkwhat's the bonus for having hyperactiveChipmunk helping?
01:49.25NightHawkTheSane[3] Complains about silly bugs increased by 50%
01:49.25hyperChipmunkaww yeah
01:49.29hyperChipmunk~~~~
01:49.44purlARGH!!! STOP IT hyperchipmunk!!!
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01:49.48kergothhttp://gallery.kergoth.com/main.php?g2_itemId=367 - any opinions? seems more busy than it needs to be, but i'd hate to get rid of anything else.. already dropped msbt in favor of eavesdrop on that char
01:49.52NightHawkTheSane~~~~~
01:49.57purlgrrrr
01:50.09Kebinusan~whalestab NightHawkTheSane
01:50.15purlACTION stabs NightHawkTheSane with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
01:50.21hyperChipmunk~~~~~~
01:50.24purlACTION takes out a revolver and shoots hyperchipmunk in the head three times.
01:50.30hyperChipmunkrofl
01:50.33NightHawkTheSanehahah
01:50.34sbu~~~~~~~~
01:50.35purlYou know, this got old a long time ago.
01:50.35Kebinusanlol
01:50.36hyperChipmunkaww \
01:50.43NightHawkTheSanesbu: owned.
01:50.45Kebinusanheh
01:50.46hyperChipmunk~~~~~~~~
01:50.47purlYou know, this got old a long time ago.
01:50.50sbu:/
01:50.51hyperChipmunk~~~~~~~
01:50.53purlACTION fires 3 more shots, as the first 3 didn't seem to have much effect.
01:50.57hyperChipmunkyou skipped one too
01:50.59hyperChipmunklol
01:50.59Kebinusanlol
01:51.02NightHawkTheSanezing.
01:51.04hyperChipmunk~~~~~~~~~
01:51.06purlI'm ignoring you now.
01:51.13hyperChipmunk~~~~~~~~~~
01:51.17AntiarcOk, I reproduced the healing bug
01:51.29hyperChipmunkthat's pretty funny
01:51.39hyperChipmunk~~~~~~~~~~~
01:51.53KebinusanI think purl is ignoring you :-)
01:52.06sbu[03:50:18] (purl): I'm ignoring you now. <-- i think he wasnt kidding here ;p
01:52.18ckknight~~~
01:52.28purlI HATE YOU, ckknight!!!
01:52.28NightHawkTheSanetry a non-idiotic command, hyperChipmunk
01:52.28hyperChipmunkpurl, I'm sorry
01:52.31purlACTION forgives you hyperchipmunk
01:52.36hyperChipmunk>9D
01:52.40hyperChipmunk~botcookie
01:52.43purl:-P
01:52.56Kebinusan~botsnack
01:52.56purlKebinusan: aw, gee
01:54.54nekohpurl is awesome xD
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01:56.13Chompersguess i'll goto bed or something, byee
01:58.21Ominouskergoth: you should install the url rewrite module in ur gallery, makes the urls much nicer
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02:02.27hyperChipmunkpsh; my pic URLs are the best
02:02.34aen`ckknight: you here?
02:02.47ckknightsure am
02:03.05aen`do u currently have auras per row on the todo list for pitbull?
02:03.43ckknightno
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02:10.04ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: ping
02:10.23AntiarcPOong
02:13.08bigzerowhat are you guys using for svn? TurtleSVN or something better maybe?
02:13.32bigzero<-- running windows
02:13.35ZealotOnAStickI used TortoiseSVN
02:13.43ZealotOnASticks/used/use/
02:13.45bigzeroright...that's what I mean..lol
02:13.50NightHawkTheSane<-- standard cli client
02:14.45bigzerowait...there's a standard cli client on windows?
02:14.46wobinRapidSVN isn't too bad
02:14.50NightHawkTheSaneyes
02:14.56wobinbigzero: The actual svn software
02:15.00bigzerooh
02:15.51NightHawkTheSanecourse I use a mac, but that's besides the point, subversion has been built for all major platforms
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02:16.49ulicwhat does the * after my name in Omen mean again?
02:17.07NightHawkTheSaneit means you're going to die.
02:18.05bigzerowell, I was trying to upload an addon to the svn and soon found out that I have to set svn:eol-style native to do it. But if i understood the tutorial correctly, I have to go into folder properties/TortoiseSVN tab to do it, which (if I remember right as well) only appears after the dir has been added to the repo...so what do i do?
02:18.24nekohAntiarc: with taunting in Druid, Warrior modules, when there is no targettarget, why are you checking wether targetThreat(player) or targetMaxThreat is greater (since targetMaxThreat is always the highest possible threat on that target)
02:19.15Diaobecause they may not have agro but may have higher threat
02:19.44nekohthats not what i mean Diao
02:19.59Mikkbigzero: You can add without commiting
02:20.00nekohits for when there is no targettarget
02:20.16Antiarcnekoh: Copy-paste error :)
02:20.29nekohthought so :)
02:21.10AntiarcOkay, global threat is being doubled for some reason.
02:23.00kergothOminous, oh good idea, didnt realize there was one.  i -hate- incomprehensible urls
02:23.10bigzeroMikk, could you give me a quick run down of what to do?
02:23.18Ominouskergoth: not a normal one
02:23.27Ominousyou have to download it
02:23.47CIA-2203gagorian * r37891 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
02:23.47CIA-22DrDamage:
02:23.47CIA-22- A few more nil value fixes
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02:25.07Ominouskergoth: they become nice like : "/v/Addons/ctVrft.jpg.html"
02:25.12kergothneat
02:27.50Ominouswhere addons is folder and ctvrft is file
02:28.28Arrowmasterewww .jpg.html
02:28.43CIA-2203antiarc * r37892 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed a display bug that was doubling global threat.
02:29.41Ominoushttp://www.ominous.me.uk/gallery/v/Addons/ctVrft.html now =P
02:29.53Ominousjust needs renaming on file system
02:31.05GalkaOminous, latest ClassTimers is resetting all its toggled-off Timers to on upon /rl
02:31.48Ominousya update again
02:32.01Ominouswhat rev do u have?
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02:32.20Ominousclick about to show it
02:32.42ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: what plans for Omen's interface/features do you have?
02:33.39Funkeh`moff
02:33.40Funkeh`later all
02:35.15AntiarcAll sorts of stuff :)
02:35.17AntiarcToo much to list
02:35.25AntiarcAsk what it is you want and I'll tell you if I have it planned
02:36.36GalkaOminous: 37884
02:36.53Ominouswtf
02:37.04Ominousthat higher thatn mine
02:37.23Galkalol
02:37.40Ominousno its not
02:37.44Ominousodd
02:40.03AntiarcDoes Shadow Affinity affect Fade like Salv affects Feint?
02:40.30OminousGalka: updating now
02:40.32ZealotOnAStickwell, for guild usability, scaling options, selection of bar textures (shared media),  version checking.
02:41.30ZealotOnAStickoh, and configuration of how many bars to display.
02:41.48ZealotOnAStickthose should handle about minimally what's needed for us to switch to it.
02:42.32nekohis there a way to avoid externals, when using "svn update" with tortoisesvn? i "svn checkout" with "omit externals" activated and it works, but when i use "svn update" after that, i get all the externals again 8[
02:42.45kergothOminous, any idea whatd cause the js on a gallery2 install to say "YAHOO is not defined" in AdminPlugins.js? it's like it can't get to the yui stuff, but its right there in lib/
02:42.47kergoth:\
02:43.11Ominouskergoth: you got all permissions set right?
02:43.48CIA-2203ominous * r37893 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: another defaults fix
02:44.55Kalman|Antiarc: Good question, but semi-irrelevant given that Fade is temporary.
02:45.19CIA-2203gagorian * r37894 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
02:45.19CIA-22DrDamage:
02:45.19CIA-22- Fixed nil error on line 2301
02:47.11AntiarcI very highly suspect it's affected, since -threat seems to be about "reduces constant amount of damage"
02:47.24AntiarcOtherwise SA would be a 25% boost to Fade's effectiveness
02:48.36AntiarcKalman|: I'd say that it's really quite relevant, since Fade is reactive, not preventive.
02:49.00AntiarcGranted, it's not a lot of threat either way.
02:50.56GagorianWell, someone told me that threat reduction actually reduces flat -threat effects
02:50.59Gagorianlike the druid cower
02:51.29GagorianWhich sounds a bit stupid, but possible nontheless
02:51.37QuantumDeltathere's a whole load of rumours on fade :<
02:51.42GagorianSo actually shadow affinity would make fade worse :p
02:51.43QuantumDeltaalways have been
02:52.01GagorianGive me access to priest char and I'll test!
02:52.31QuantumDeltaThough I never did find out if the "Threat generated whilst faded is permanent reduced" was true or not
02:52.46QuantumDeltaso fade -> mind blast = sod all threat
02:52.52QuantumDeltaaccording to that rumour
02:52.55AntiarcIt does, Gagorian
02:53.08AntiarcIt works out that no matter what kind of reducers you have on you, it reduces X damage worth of threat
02:53.29AntiarcAssume you do 2k damage with a 50% -threat buff
02:53.41AntiarcYou do 1k threat, and you have an ability that reduces threat by 1000
02:53.42QuantumDelta= 1k dmg
02:53.47QuantumDeltahmm
02:53.58AntiarcSo you feint, and that's -1000 threat, or -2000 damage
02:54.07AntiarcWith the 50% modifier, it's -500 threat, or -1000 damage
02:54.13Antiarc1000 damage worth of unmodified threat
02:54.35QuantumDeltathat's kinda crappy
02:54.39kergothhttp://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/currentui-20050531.jpg.html , yay, not ugly urls
02:54.44kergothOminous, thanks again for the info :)
02:55.08AntiarcRogues get a passive 29% "penalty" to feint  :V
02:55.10Ominous:)
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02:56.19Ominouskergoth now you just need to remove the .jpg.html
02:56.22QuantumDeltathen salv -30% (multiplicative) making it even worse :<
02:56.34nekohAntiarc: small optimization suggestion: pass rank as a parameter on ClassBuffs["somebuff"], so you dont have to reiterate all buffs to find out the rank, when you need it
02:57.01CIA-2203sylvanaar * r37895 10DreamChat/DreamChat_FrameClass.lua: DreamChat: DC frames expand/contract automatically to contain the entire chatline, rather than writing text all over the screen.
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02:57.31AntiarcOh, I guess I have it there. Good suggestion. I'm in there fixing a bug anyhow.
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02:59.25ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: npcs/bosses module have anything for Sharkkis' knockback?
03:00.21AntiarcNot yet.
03:00.36AntiarcIf it's a generic knock away, then there's a 50% modifier for it already
03:00.57CIA-2203ominous * r37896 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: now rt click disables if you arnt in a party
03:05.18Fisker-oh hi i just upgraded my ram
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03:07.59Mikkkergoth: damnit i read "not ugly gurls"
03:08.04kergothlol
03:08.06Mikkv disappointed when i clicked :S
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03:10.20Diaowhat's that loottracker addon?
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03:11.07nekohAntiarc: i think i know the reason, why Omen shows threat when out of combat
03:12.01sdoubleDiao, GreedBeacon?
03:12.48nekohwhen the mob dies, you get a PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED event, so omen looks for the threat of your target, but its nil and it takes "player" as target -> ThreatLib doesn't have threat for "player" so it returns the global threat here
03:13.16aen`detox doesnt have clicky dispel?
03:13.34nekohAFTER THAT you get out of combat, but omen does not catch any events, because they are not for the target "player" that its watching atm
03:14.13nekohso the global threat stays in omen, until you change your target again
03:14.14Thorgard^2Humm.. why did Violation stop showing the damage done by other people in my party?
03:16.09Diaouh
03:16.13Diaoi meant in kergoth's ss
03:16.36CIA-2203ruinna * r37897 10FuBar_BongosFu/ (BongosFu.lua README.txt): FuBar_BongosFu: fixed bug with manage profiles option behavior
03:18.15Mikk" in order to resolve some technical issues"
03:18.16Mikkoh. those.
03:18.31theoddone33maybe mobs will not fly now
03:18.36theoddone33when going up a hill
03:18.39Mikkyou wish :-P
03:20.22deltronffs there's a queue to get into lotro on the server i'm on :(
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03:22.54kergothDiao, that's LootTracker, an addon joshborke did.  nice and effective for farming motes and such
03:23.38aen`does detox support clicky dispells?
03:24.57nekohi dont think its possible
03:25.05Ominouskergoth: god that ui is messy
03:25.23hyperChipmunkkergoth: lol
03:25.30hyperChipmunkbah, Ominous beat me to it
03:25.47CIA-2203jayhawk * r37898 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (PetInfoFu-readme.txt PetInfoFu.lua PetInfoFuLocals-enUS.lua):
03:25.47CIA-22FuBar_PetInfoFu:
03:25.47CIA-22- added options to show XP to go (by amount or percentage)
03:25.47CIA-22- hopefully fixed bug with Avoidance/Reflexes
03:25.59OminousHc: i mean just general ui not loottracker
03:26.05hyperChipmunkyea
03:26.07hyperChipmunkme too
03:26.32hyperChipmunklooks like a blindman positioned his ui elements by throwing darts at a board
03:26.36Ominousyep
03:26.46aen`doesnt decursive 2.0 have that feature?
03:27.17aen`click casting
03:27.31CIA-2203jayhawk * r37899 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/FuBar_PetInfoFu.toc:
03:27.31CIA-22FuBar_PetInfoFu:
03:27.31CIA-22- updated version
03:28.25Fisker-sure aen` but decursive is almost like a raidframe as well :P
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03:28.30Fisker-except uglier and less functional
03:28.35GalkaOminous: r 96 is still resetting all my toggled-off Blessings
03:28.37Galkato be timed
03:28.43Fisker-Grid + Clickcasting > Decursive imo :P
03:28.44Ominouswhat do u mean
03:29.07GalkaI mean that everytime I reloadui
03:29.12aen`grid is too bulky
03:29.16GalkaThe blessings that I unchecked so they would not be timed
03:29.19Galkabecome checked again
03:29.22Galkaand therefore, timed again
03:29.34Ominousi see
03:29.43AntiarcAre there any buffs that reduce threat caused while they're up by a flat amount?
03:29.46CIA-2203ominous * r37900 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: another defaults fix
03:30.15AntiarcLike -100 threat to all threat caused for 15 sec or whatever
03:30.21nekohAntiarc: did you read what i wrote ?
03:30.30Antiarcnekoh: Yeah, and I think you're right
03:30.41hyperChipmunkeven if there isn't, I wouldn't rule out the possibility
03:30.44nekohi just debugged it
03:30.46nekohits true
03:31.37Fisker-I AM UNLEASHED
03:31.37Fisker-oh hi
03:31.37AntiarcI need the clear event sent on combat exit, I think
03:31.38hyperChipmunkAntiarc: you ought to be able to handle it in the future, whether or not there's such an item now
03:32.42Mikkyowza, goddamn dewdrop is misbehaving for me right now
03:32.45nekohwell, im going to bed, gn8 folks
03:32.58Mikktrying to work a slider. slider window shuts down as soon as i mouse over the actual slider control
03:33.07Mikksometimes, sometimes now
03:33.08Mikknot*
03:33.31Mikkif i mouse back from the slider window to the menu option, the slider resets to what it was previously
03:34.47jwwpuaanyone else having problems with FuBar_AnkhTimerFu ?
03:34.48Mikkerm woot server restart takes <1min? o.O
03:35.21Ominousnearly 40000
03:38.01CIA-2203ricowan * r37901 10RicoMiniMap/ (RicoMiniMap.lua RicoMiniMap.toc):
03:38.01CIA-22RicoMiniMap:
03:38.02CIA-22- Quest Tracker is now dragable when the minimap is unlocked
03:39.48Ominoushow is RMM different from Simple minimpa?
03:40.57JaxonIt has an R instead of an S
03:42.30jwwpuawhile you're comparing them, add in Squeenix too (ace addon as well)
03:42.38jwwpuaminimap addon i mean
03:51.46Killmore~~~~~
03:52.01purlgrrrr
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03:57.13erbis there an ace addon that will tell me the vendor value of items?
03:57.28erbquest rewards
03:57.28LePeR|Jauniaitemsync has an option for it
03:58.18erbok thank you
03:59.04LePeR|Jauniabut thats also a lootlink mod.. i think there is some other addons that are just for vendor values
03:59.06NightHawkTheSanecolalight will display vendor prices for most any item, and it learns new items
03:59.18NightHawkTheSanesellfish does the same thing, not an ace mod, but still very good.
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04:05.00hyperChipmunkwho made all my tooltip borders green?
04:05.09CIA-2203ruldar * r37902 10FuBar_TransporterFu/ (8 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_TransporterFu: Resubmitting TransporterFu into the svn
04:05.47hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
04:06.02hyperChipmunk<dragoon> I have returned. </dragoon>
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04:07.39Borked|Raiderif i have collected the info from player recieved loot:[item]x2 number ect. string.find(v.itemlink, "(.+)x(%d+)") would give me the itemlink and the numbger right?
04:07.39JaxonhyperChipmunk: I had to turn off Skinner's Tooltip border skinning to get them back to normal
04:07.44Borked|Raidernumber
04:08.13hyperChipmunkJaxon: thanks, i was just about to poke into that
04:08.23JaxonMine were pink.
04:09.16hyperChipmunkhehe
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04:11.04hyperChipmunknow the whole tooltip turned blue
04:11.20hyperChipmunkwait, no...just some of them
04:11.42Diaohmm
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04:21.12CIA-2203antiarc * r37903 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
04:21.12CIA-22Threat-1.0:
04:21.12CIA-22- Reworked the buff modifier system and applied updates to class files and global buffs.
04:21.12CIA-22- Fixed Fade
04:21.12CIA-22- Added +35% modifier to Holy Shield
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04:24.32ckknighthey Antiarc
04:25.14ckknightpants.
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04:29.16ulicshirts.
04:31.08kenlyric|homeow my brain.
04:31.08CIA-2203ulic * r37904 10Chronometer/Data/Shaman.lua: Chronometer: Updated Healing Stream & Mana Spring to 2m
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04:31.45kenlyric|homewhat's the name of the system profiler in windows if I want to find out things like my ram clock speed, etc.
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04:33.56krunk-anyone know of a mod that tracks the time it takes to kill a mob? Like on the fly, so I can tell which technique makes grinding go fastest?
04:34.13ulickenlyric|home: msinfo32.exe is I think what you're looking for
04:35.28ulickrunk-: use a dps mod, kill one, check, reset, kill again, check?
04:35.36kenlyric|homei found it, cpu-z
04:36.35ulicoh you meant something 3rd party
04:36.52kenlyric|homeI meant something useful, so yes :)
04:37.13kenlyric|homeamd athlon 64 3000+.. yeah, I probably need to upgrade.
04:38.06Mudkipzneed to upgrade?
04:38.30Mudkipzi'm running an amd athlon xp 3200
04:38.36ulichehe
04:39.03JaxonMac Pro!
04:39.44kenlyric|homemine does this very strange thing in oblivion where the pre-rendered videos skip and damned if I can figure out the cause. And, I want these mystical 100fps in games that people get :)
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04:43.09MikkWHY in the name of $deity does my dewdrop slider shut the menulevel down as soon as I let go of the handle? or mouse off of the actual slider control?
04:43.40wobin$deity no longer lives here =(
04:43.46wobinWHO IS YOUR $DEITY NOW?
04:48.30ZealotOnAStickAnyone know of a mod that will just display MH and OH weapon speeds on screen?
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04:49.21JaxonSwinger or something?
04:49.35JaxonI remember something like that
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04:52.08JaxonZealotOnAStick: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=4089
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05:03.25CIA-2203mikk * r37905 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: Fix slight global namespace pollution (my bad)
05:04.59ZealotOnAStickJaxon: thanks, but not quite what we're looking for.  That's a swing timer.  Just want a mod that display attack speeds.  Sort of a "haste effect monitor"
05:06.34JaxonOh, I never looked at the description, just remmeber when it was first posted to that UI site and thought thats what it did.
05:06.41Mikkopen char pane and look?
05:06.56ZealotOnAStickright, but looking for something so you don't have to do that mid-combat.
05:07.48hyperChipmunksrsly dude, that's like a 5-line addon
05:07.59ZealotOnAStickSomething that had a little text frame with "MH: 1.7   OH: 1.2" or something.  and updated accordingly.
05:08.10ZealotOnAStickI'm a terrible programmer, Hyper, as I loathe coding.
05:08.11hyperChipmunkthat's what your scratch addon is for, nitwit
05:08.33sedatedChipmunkKTHXBAI
05:08.42Cryectso uhh
05:08.52Cryectdo UnitAttackSpeed("player") or whatever the thing is
05:08.58CryectI forget the exact unit command
05:09.09CryectUsed to have a macro setup for checking my targets
05:09.39CryectGets pretty boring though when you realize blizzard sets everything to 2.0
05:09.56sedatedChipmunkALMOST everything
05:10.02CryectYeah almost everythign
05:10.18CryectDual Wielding mobs were normally faster and a few exceptions were slower/faster
05:10.21sedatedChipmunkbasically, look out for stuff called anything-monks
05:10.33Cryectanything-munk what!!?!?
05:10.42sedatedChipmunkthat too
05:10.53sedatedChipmunknight =p
05:10.57Cryectnight!
05:11.02sedatedChipmunkjerks
05:11.09Cryectgood thing you are sedated
05:11.18anenigmanight sedatedChipmunk
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05:11.40CIA-22FuBar_TransporterFu:
05:11.40CIA-22<PROTECTED>
05:11.40CIA-22<PROTECTED>
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05:12.27Mikkmkay.. there's all of 1 assert in dewdrop, and it's mine
05:12.28Mikk:S
05:13.20Ruldarit /might/ have been from fubar, don't completely remember...didn't manage to save it out of the bugsack
05:13.48kergothOminous, i'm open to suggestions on a better layout on my ui, that's why i posted the ss :)
05:13.56Ominouskergoth: ok
05:14.10Ominouslink again
05:14.49kergothhttp://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/currentui-20050531.jpg.html (stupid jpg.html)
05:15.23Cryecthmmm thats a lot of stuff in the middle
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05:18.09CryectAhh good violation swapped over to a gray version of the border instead of the awful orange one
05:18.41kergothmy eyes suck, so i cant see crap out of my peripheral vision, thats why most stuff is surrounding the center
05:18.45kergoth:)
05:18.47Cryectah! :)
05:19.58Ominouskergoth: party along top, make party pets only show health, party targets not really important are they>?
05:21.04Ominouskergoth: if you dont click put bars along bottom straight
05:21.13kergothi find it useful just due to pitbull's highlight, to confirm when my target is the tank's target
05:21.29kergoththat's a good idea, i used to keep it there so i could spot the omnicc cooldown counters, but now with hourglass..
05:21.53kergothappreciate the advice
05:23.55Ominousmake fubar transparent looks shweet
05:24.02Ominoushate that texture
05:24.14Arrowmasterkergoth: looks like your servers setup fine to just remove the .html from those links
05:24.48Arrowmasteralthough the links arent
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05:31.08HjalteDoeas anyone here know of a program letting me fetch entire folders off a website? Or well, actually i just need the html pages in the folder.
05:32.47Borked|Raideranyone feeling somehow into how GetItemInfo() works?
05:33.00Borked|Raiderwhat deside if a item can be found with it?
05:33.08AntiarcBorked|Raider: If it's in your local cache
05:33.29Borked|Raiderand local cache means to 100% sure?
05:33.36Borked|Raiderthat its been looted on the server?
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05:33.50AntiarcYes
05:33.57AntiarcIt won't get into your cache unless you've seen it in game
05:34.06JaxonHjalte: you mean, wget?
05:36.57Borked|RaiderI just dont get it, i am working on an addon for raidtracking, and all the looted items are stored in a table. WHen showing the info, i am checking with GetItemInfo() if the item is in the local cache to stop the user to try link something that will discornect him
05:36.57HjalteJaxon, oh.. I didnt know about that. I'll have a look. Thanks.
05:36.57Borked|RaiderBut some items are discing me even if its found with GetItemInfo(), and others cant be linked even tho its not found with GetItemInfo
05:39.09Arrowmasterlocal cache and server cache are completely different
05:39.32Arrowmasterserver gets reset everytime the server restarts but your local cache isnt changed
05:39.55HjalteJaxon, i might sound like an idiot now but... How do i use commands such as "wget --convert-links -r http://www.gnu.org/ -o gnulog" with the binary download i got for windows of wget?
05:40.20JaxonHjalte: you'll need to do it in a command prompt.
05:41.11HjalteI tried opening command prompt, and going to the folder where i have unzipped wget.exe and the other files, but it said that wget wasnt recognised.
05:42.26HjalteOh wait..
05:42.26JaxonI'm pretty sure that wget needs to be in the path.  Its been so long since I used that OS.
05:42.26HjalteI'm an idiot.
05:43.15Borked|RaiderArrowmaster, so thers no way actuly to test before trying to link and item or set a tooltip if the item are linkable without disconection
05:43.44CIA-2203ruldar * r37907 10FuBar_TransporterFu/FuBar_TransporterFu.toc: FuBar_TransporterFu: small toc fix (embeds' paths and LoD flag)
05:43.48LaricAntiarc is there any older version of sanity2 that is working? Current version is pretty buggy and I know you are busy with threat atm
05:43.48ulicsome of the map loot mobs can do it
05:44.12ulicI've seem them say I don't have the link so it doesn't do anything, but then when I see it, it works
05:45.17Borked|Raiderye, so do my addon, checking up with the GetItemInfo - but if that checks the local cache - then it aint that accurate?
05:45.43HjalteJaxon, i love you! Finally got it working, it wasn't that hard :)
05:48.07AntiarcLaric: Some of the older versions in the wowace archive should work fine
05:48.21AntiarcTry http://files.wowace.com/Sanity2/Sanity2-r33714.10.zip
05:48.27AntiarcOr http://files.wowace.com/Sanity2/Sanity2-r26541.zip
05:48.41Laricok will do.. thx
05:50.26Borked|Raiderthink i found the answer for my questions
05:50.30Borked|RaiderWhen you attempt to 'link' an item, the game first looks in your client's item cache to see if it's there, if it is not there, then it queries the server to look in its cache (The server's cache contains every item that's been legitimately "seen" since the server was last started). If the item you request is not in the server's cache then you will be disconnected. This doesn't affect normal use because when you log in your inventory is ad
05:50.39Borked|Raiderso not like its posible
05:50.57Borked|Raiderto check the server cache without disc
05:51.10AntiarcTry SetTooltipItem or similar
05:51.18AntiarcSomething like that
05:51.24AntiarcIf you get an item in the tooltip, it's local and ok
05:52.34Borked|Raiderand if not
05:52.38Borked|Raideryou disc :P
05:52.43AntiarcTesting Misdirection is painful
05:52.49AntiarcOnly 40% as painful as testing Vanish, but still
05:53.52CryectVanish should be easier than feign death though right?
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06:08.00CIA-2203cryect * r37908 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua GUI_Report.lua Recount.toc): Recount - Adds a reporting button to the main window
06:08.12CIA-2203antiarc * r37909 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
06:08.12CIA-22Threat-1.0:
06:08.12CIA-22- Fixed pet name detection. Should be better about pets being summoned when you dismount, etc
06:08.12CIA-22- Fixed hunter-pet misdirection. hunter-player misdirection not tested yet.
06:08.12CIA-22- Fixed foreign threat source detection
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06:15.09ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: Threat deal with hunter pets the same name as a player?
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06:17.40Gngskwho wants to port twinterruptwatch to ace and candybar?
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06:19.53CIA-2203cryect * r37910 10Recount/GUI_Detail.lua: Recount - Should prevent a potential reported bug with the detail window (though maybe it doesn't since wasn't explained how to replicate the bug)
06:20.00Adirellejust thought of sth about AceDebug
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06:20.24Adirelle2nd thought : maybe should I post onto the forum...
06:20.46AntiarcZealotOnAStick: No, at least not now
06:20.52AntiarcIt'll see them both as the same entity
06:20.57KarlThePaganAntiarc, threatlib zomg :D
06:21.59Kalman|Antiarc: Shouldn't it be capable of tracking independently?  Thought pets threw different events from players.
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06:23.03KarlThePaganso my deepest threatlib desire... is differentiating between same-name mobs, via raid markings
06:23.00AntiarcKalman|: Yeah, but I'm using name as dictionary keys in several places
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06:23.22AntiarcKarlThePagan: Won't happen. No raid icon info in the combat log.
06:24.05KarlThePagan:/ I suppose you can't always assume that your target is the one you're damaging
06:24.33NightHawkTheSanenot really, especially given dot-and-forget locks :P
06:25.55ckknight~moredots
06:25.59purlWhelps, LEFT SIDE!! Even side, MANY WHELPS!!
06:26.11ckknightKarlThePagan: I read deepest threatlib desire as deep-throat desire
06:26.13Adirellewondering if AceDebug-2.0 embed should be an empty layer and letting a full addon implements the full debugging stuff
06:26.29ZealotOnAStickit's not dot and forget.  It's work maintaining a full dot load on more than 3 mobs.
06:26.31KarlThePagankinky
06:27.01CIA-2203cryect * r37911 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: Recount - Lets not report data thats equal to 0
06:27.21NightHawkTheSanewell yeah, but you get my meaning.
06:29.11KarlThePaganwell yea... that's a bummer for magtheridon
06:29.20KarlThePaganbut no other choice
06:30.46CryectAntiarc: is there a way to get the list of current active threat targets?
06:31.09AntiarcCryect: Not easily. Whatcha want it for?
06:31.36Kalman|Recount integration?
06:31.38Kalman|:D
06:31.41CryectYeah
06:31.55AntiarcWhat's recount do?
06:32.03CryectI want it so I have some data to show on Pie Charts instead of passing nils for that data :-p
06:32.12Kalman|SWs/DM functionality plus fancy graphics.
06:32.19AntiarcNice
06:32.26Adirelleany thougt on http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6464.msg106916 ?
06:32.27Kalman|For something that's beta, it's really quite usable.
06:32.39AntiarcI am -this close- to read-only KTM working.
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06:32.59CryectDoes KTM just send messages of "T Threatamount"
06:33.07Cryector something like that
06:33.22CryectDoesn't*
06:33.32AntiarcYeah
06:33.33Adirelleyes, but it also merge pet and master threat, which is non-sense
06:33.40AntiarcI'm capturing and storing data
06:33.57AntiarcJust working on how to signal the GUIs about it
06:34.00CryectSo just send it your threat numbers for whatever it considers the master target or whtever :-p
06:34.47AdirelleCryect: right too
06:35.23AdirelleIMO, KTM output is of no use for Threat
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06:35.46AntiarcWoo, working.
06:38.10CIA-2203antiarc * r37912 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua:
06:38.10CIA-22Threat-1.0: KTM reading/display is working. It requires some additional work in
06:38.10CIA-22your GUI to make sure you show it, since they aren't engaged with any mobs - the
06:38.10CIA-22target passed from the ThreatUpdated event will be "GLOBAL" - you'll want to
06:38.10CIA-22display events that come through with this target, regardless of your current
06:38.11CIA-22target.
06:38.41ZealotOnAStick<PROTECTED>
06:38.52ZealotOnAStickThey're making a Sims movie.
06:39.11Gngskis there like a bigwigs interrupt module?
06:39.55Silviu-Cheer Antiarc :)
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06:40.27CryectGngsk: not bigwigs but an interrupt addon http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=11464
06:40.40wobinhttp://www.lolcode.com/
06:40.41Cryectthough maybe not what you are looking for
06:40.56Antiarchttp://i10.tinypic.com/4uw865d.jpg
06:41.00Silviu-Antiarc they don`t see me yet in ktm right ?
06:41.03AntiarcAdrine is my rogue on my laptop, running KTM
06:41.04AntiarcSilviu-: No
06:41.24GngskCryect, http://ctscreens.net/7209 <- make it pretty like the other bars :(
06:41.26AntiarcMckinsey is my wife's hunter, running on my desktop with Omen
06:41.32AntiarcAnd she sees Adrine's threat :D
06:41.33Mudkipzdefault ui is default
06:42.15CIA-2203darchon * r37913 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua: sRaidFrames: update koKR
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06:45.13theoddone33saw lolcode at work today
06:45.15theoddone33pretty funny
06:45.41NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: sexy.
06:45.56CryectGngsk: heh its not my addon I'm afraid
06:46.25Silviu-Antiarc , will they see me in KTM in future ?
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06:47.44GngskCryect, I know, but bigwigs interrupt assist would be pwn!
06:48.10CryectWhy would it be part of Bigwigs though? :-p
06:48.25Gngskwell, I only turn that thing on in raids
06:48.32Gngskif it was part of bigwigs it'd just show up when I join a raid
06:48.43Kalman|Generally useful generic bossmod function, kinda like distance frame.
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06:48.53CryectWell someone could easily set their addon to do the same
06:49.06CryectThough you could have it set to pop up for the right bosses of course
06:49.09Cryectlike I had in IMBA
06:49.43CryectActually not sure if I had it setup for that one :-p
06:50.22vhaarrBW isn't getting any interrupt assistance mod.
06:51.00AntiarcHunter->Player misdirection works.
06:51.35Gngskvhaarr, omg fine, be that way!
06:51.45vhaarr:)
06:54.13Fisker--anyone know any simple php script i can use to execute SQL with?
06:54.28Fisker--Appears a host i have does not allow me to create tables manually
06:54.33theoddone33I can't cleanse ignite? lame
06:54.33Fisker--so i have to write a script :<
06:55.28JaxonDoes the host use phpmyadmin?
06:55.28Fisker--nope
06:55.28Fisker--some homebrew bullshit it appears
06:55.29JaxonThat host is retarded, you should change immediately.
06:55.29Fisker--you can delete and make databases
06:55.29Fisker--not my host
06:55.29Fisker--i'm just servicing it
06:55.29Fisker--already told him to change :P
06:55.32NightHawkTheSaneFisker--: uh, look up the mysql functions in the php manual? it's extremely straightforward.
06:55.42Fisker--alright
06:56.03theoddone33oh man, I see what happened... one of those fight with a guy until he turns friendly quests... he turns friendly but puts a pyroblast on me just before he does... so I'm like cleanse cleanse, flash of light... but I still died
06:56.09theoddone33I had the quest guy targeted still :(
06:56.55Fisker--even have an example i can rip off
06:56.58Fisker--awesome
06:57.23NightHawkTheSaneyeah, the php manual really is quite good
06:57.34JaxonSQL support in PHP is also good.
06:57.35Fisker--oh wait lol
06:57.40Fisker--it does phpmyadmin
06:57.45Fisker--was hidden away in the bottom of the page
07:01.41CIA-2203antiarc * r37914 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fixed a problem that caused threat to stick around after a fight.
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07:09.38Cryectantiarc so is :GetMaxThreatForTarget implemented?
07:09.59CryectOh I see
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07:20.27dafiremorning .9
07:20.42Mikkok so umm... can anyone think of a reason why dewdrop would close its slider way too early? like immediately after i mouse off of the slider control, or let go of the drag handle?
07:22.06Mudkipzhttp://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9101/wowscrnshot060107000613aq1.jpg
07:22.08Mudkipzlmao!!!
07:22.21CIA-2203cryect * r37915 10Recount/ (. GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Recount.toc): Recount - Adds basic threat support for Threat-1.0 (though KTM Support has been removed). At the moment its just a display mode in the main window showing threat for your current target.
07:23.56dafireI read that omen imports threat numbers from ktm ?
07:24.08Punkie`~mudkip
07:24.23purlSo, punkie` i herd you liek mudkips
07:24.46Mikkdafire: you heard wrong
07:25.08CryectThreat-1.0 has them just you have to be showing threat for the global target :-p
07:25.16Mikk^
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07:25.45ckknightlol, Mudkipz
07:26.01CryectUnless you set a master target KTM just gets threat applied to anything so that info wouldn't be so useful really
07:26.42dafirei just wondered what happend if some people use threat-1.0 and ktm ... what is shown then from someone with both ? .9
07:27.19AntiarcThreatLib shows ThreadLib info if it's present - it ignores KTM if ThreatLib info is there.
07:27.28dafireah ok :)
07:27.32AntiarcKTM won't see anything from ThreatLib people either way right now
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07:27.43dafirethat's not to bad i think
07:27.56dafirekinda force them to switch if they want to see me :o)
07:29.35ZealotOnAStickMy Guild Leader is already quite happy to switch the guild to Omen, as soon as it's "done enough"
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07:29.53ZealotOnAStickHe'll do it just so he doesn't have to mess with Master Target crap anymore alone.
07:30.02Cryectheh
07:30.26CryectNow here is where someone asks can someone make a bigwigs module to do that then vhaarr says no
07:30.45vhaarrdo what?
07:30.53ZealotOnAStickUhm, isn't there one already?
07:30.54Cryecthaha set the master target in KTM
07:30.59vhaarrhehe
07:31.05vhaarrI made one for that some time ago
07:31.12vhaarrbut it has been discontinued
07:31.14ZealotOnAStickvhaarr: any news on NRT updatedness soon?
07:31.23vhaarrZealotOnAStick: I pinged you about it already
07:32.11ZealotOnAStickAhh, I missed it.  When was?  I really do need to look into a better client sometime.
07:32.35vhaarrhttp://wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/BigWigs_KLHTMTarget/BigWigs_KLHTMTarget.lua?rev=18509
07:33.14vhaarrThe problem is that a module enabling is not the same as a boss being engaged.
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07:33.55ZealotOnAStickanyway, what news on NRT then?  CTRT is apparently absolutely frigging useless for us, as you can't manually add people to the raid, it only exports a max of 25 . . .
07:34.12vhaarrread the forum thread, it's all posted there
07:34.42dafirect_raidtracker ?
07:35.09Punkie`ctrt works for me, but i hate it
07:35.46ZealotOnAStickahah.
07:35.49dafirethere is a version where you can add people with /ct join <name>
07:36.09dafireuhm .. /rt
07:36.29AntiarcBedtime for me guys
07:36.30AntiarcHave a good one
07:36.36dafirebye
07:36.44BlimeNite Antiarc
07:40.08vhaarrZealotOnAStick: http://rabbit.nihilum.eu/NRT-2007-06-01.zip
07:40.36ZealotOnAStickHeh, I just downloaded the 05-30.  Thanks.
07:41.01vhaarryeah it just fixes a problem with the CT XML export
07:42.55ZealotOnASticksays it's not found on the server.
07:43.55Mudkipzgnight everyone
07:44.28ZealotOnAStickvhaarr: says it's not found on the server.
07:44.48vhaarrerm
07:45.01vhaarrdamn
07:45.10[Liquidor]Using ScheduleEvent(), does it start a fake event I have to register or does it start a function?
07:45.29vhaarrZealotOnAStick: try again
07:45.33vhaarrI named it 07-01
07:45.36vhaarrinstead of 06-91
07:45.37vhaarr01*
07:46.04ZealotOnAStickyah, there we go.
07:46.11ZealotOnAStickdanke
07:48.06evlsedatedChipmunk: ping
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07:51.24evlhow do I exit a for loop in lua?
07:51.38ckknight[Liquidor]: depends on the arguments.
07:51.45ckknightevl: break
07:52.12[Liquidor]ckknight, read the api. Found out I had to add a self as a last argument when using a method call.
07:52.15[Liquidor]No clue why tho
07:52.30ckknightdo you understand colon syntax?
07:52.53ckknightmethod syntax is just function syntax with an added self argument
07:52.55[Liquidor]Ye to some extend
07:53.18[Liquidor]self:ScheduleEvent(self.FillIn, 15, self) -- the last self I was unaware of
07:53.39ckknightself:FillIn() => self.FillIn(self)
07:53.43ckknightyou realize that, right?
07:55.26[Liquidor]yeah
07:56.13ckknightthat's why the added self is there.
07:56.26[Liquidor]Yeah I get it now, thanks.
07:56.43CIA-2203evl * r37916 10Hourglass/core.lua:
07:56.43CIA-22Hourglass:
07:56.43CIA-22- Added groupedCooldowns to lighten the amount of bars created by Shocks, Traps and other abilities that share cooldown. This is disabled by default but can easily be enabled in core.lua
07:56.43CIA-22- Slight optimization to ScanSpells()
07:56.47[Liquidor]Although I would have thought of a self at the first argument
07:56.57ckknightmeh, deal
07:58.26ckknightit's interesting to know that most all object oriented languages do the same thing
07:59.19ckknightput self/this/Me at argument #0
07:59.19ckknightbut hidden in the compiler
07:59.28kergotham i the only one that thinks its stupid that Violation_CombatLogRange (boosts combat log range only in instances, or in party/raid, or wahtever) is dependent upon violation?
07:59.43kergoththe functionality isnt in any way dependent upon it, it just injects into violation's aceoptions
08:00.33ckknightseems like good place for an OptionalDep
08:00.47Mikkooh look ckknight
08:01.03MikkWould you know why a dewdrop slider likes to close way too fast?
08:01.19MikkI.e. immediately when you mouse off of the slider control, or when you release the drag handle
08:01.23ckknightno, aside from angering God through assorted sinful acts
08:01.40ckknightprimarily masturbation
08:02.10Ominousok now been awake for 24hrs :D
08:02.12Mikkdamn, god must have a long memory
08:02.16[Liquidor]If you smoke weed, you prolly won't know that your life is actually moving a lot faster than you think Mikk !
08:02.17nymbiakergoth: afaik that stuff doesn't work as of 2.1, log range is locked
08:02.48kergothnymbia, someone said that in the latest patch it works again, but i didnt hear whether they confirmed it or not
08:03.06kergothit was.. adirelle
08:03.09kergothi hate my memory
08:03.10nymbiahrm
08:03.59[Liquidor]Would be cool to be hit by a lightning while sitting by the laptop connected to IE and then BOOM you just know everything stored on the web. .oO(Freakazoid anyone?)
08:04.40ZealotOnAStickI think that such a thing would leave someone in a catatonic state of harrowed shock.
08:04.52ZealotOnAStickThere are things on the web . . . that just shouldn't be shared.
08:05.08[Liquidor]Or maybe become the web
08:05.45[Liquidor]tho seeing million of copies of Robbie Williams or anyone similar would prolly turn you crazy
08:05.50NightHawkTheSaneonly if i get the power of FoiP (Fire over IP)
08:06.16ZealotOnAStickI'd much rather go for something like Lawnmower Man.
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08:06.36ZealotOnAStickThe first one, not the horrid sequel.
08:07.13[Liquidor]Oh ! A million copies of Catherine Bell.... but okay enough of the fantasies =)
08:08.45ZealotOnAStickVeronica Zemanova for me, please.
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08:11.54[Liquidor]She's hot :=) Which movies? Episodes? Or just a model?
08:13.06ZealotOnAStick"adult" actress/model.
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08:18.24CIA-2203arkayenro * r37917 10ArkInventory/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
08:18.24CIA-22ArkInventory:
08:18.25CIA-22- v1.39
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08:22.49Adysis there a way to, in a single macro, only dismount if I am already mounted, or mount up if I wasnt mounted before? At the moment I use /use [flyable] Reins of the Violet Netherwing Drake; [noflyable] Reins of the Swift Frostsaber - but it only dismounts me if I am using one of the two mounts and not another
08:23.01Adysif I put /dismount at the start of the macro, it will dismount me and remount me
08:23.54NightHawkTheSane[mounted] and [nomounted]
08:24.41Jagobahyep
08:24.56Jagobahand /dismount [mounted]
08:25.11Adysso the macro would look like /dismount [mounted] /use [flyable,nomounted] Reins of the Violet Netherwing Drake; [noflyable,nomounted] Reins of the Swift Frostsaber
08:25.28Jagobahyeah
08:25.36Adysawesome :) thanks
08:25.42JagobahI would put [nocombat] in but thats me
08:25.45NightHawkTheSaneyeah, though you can stick /dismount either at the beginning or end, doesnt really matter
08:26.09Adysuhm
08:26.17Adysthat would make it simpler i guess
08:26.50Adysill check around tonight anyways, bbl, thanks again
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08:28.23Stephmwmornin'
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08:31.53Fisker--anyone got a ssh client nearby?
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08:32.25ZealotOnAStickyeah
08:32.25JaxonYeah
08:32.26Jaxonssh
08:32.26NightHawkTheSanei've got the ssh command, will that do?
08:32.33Fisker--dunno :o
08:32.42NightHawkTheSane(that was sarcasm :P)
08:32.44Fisker--can you guys connect to http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk
08:32.45Fisker--?
08:32.46Fisker--err
08:32.49Fisker--no http :P
08:32.52Fisker--through ssh of course
08:33.07JaxonYeah
08:33.17Fisker--also got login and such?
08:33.30JaxonWants my password.
08:33.35Fisker--:<
08:34.02ZealotOnAStickused my username for this account on windows, wants my password.
08:34.14NightHawkTheSanesame
08:34.32Jaxonuse "$ ssh username@host" for different names, duh :P
08:34.48NightHawkTheSanewell duh, but what other name would i use? :P
08:35.00Jaxonchewbacca@developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk
08:35.09NightHawkTheSaneahh, of course, my bad ;)
08:35.51Fisker--noooo
08:35.55Fisker--faggots blocked it then
08:36.03Fisker--now i can't do my work gg
08:36.07NightHawkTheSaneblocked what?
08:36.13Fisker--port 22 or something
08:36.14ZealotOnAStickwho blocked it?
08:36.17Fisker--i get connection time out on it
08:36.28Fisker--guys in charge of the firewall i guess :P
08:36.30ZealotOnAStickcould be a temporary thing on your specific route.
08:36.30NightHawkTheSaneahh
08:36.44Fisker--only that specific service not working
08:36.44ZealotOnAStickcan't you set your box to do a non-standard ssh port?
08:36.47Fisker--http and such works fine
08:36.59Fisker--sure ZealotOnAStick but i don't have access to it now :<
08:37.45Fisker--anyone got another ssh host i can try?
08:37.51Fisker--(won't hack it, i swear!)
08:38.07renchapjaina.renchap.com
08:38.31Fisker--damn
08:38.37Fisker--is the port then
08:39.48CIA-2203ammo * r37918 10Violation/Threat/Threat.lua: Violation: global threat has a target of GLOBAL
08:39.48renchapyou can try tenel-ka.renchap.com:443
08:39.48CIA-2203scorpio0920 * r37919 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Pathaleon.lua: LittleWigs: Update zhTW translation for Pathaleon
08:39.54Fisker--haha
08:39.55Fisker--that works
08:40.00Fisker--i knew it
08:40.30Fisker--can i run ssh on 22 and 443 at the same time?
08:40.36renchapyes
08:40.40Fisker--cool
08:40.42renchapListenAddress 0.0.0.0:22
08:40.43renchapListenAddress 91.121.63.13:443
08:40.47[Ammo]morning
08:40.47renchapin sshd_config
08:40.55CIA-2203scorpio0920 * r37920 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
08:40.55CIA-22Babble-2.2:
08:40.55CIA-22- Update zhTW translation for Pathaleon
08:40.58Fisker--gonna look at it when i get access again *cough*
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08:51.15phyberAntiarc: any chance you could make your armory thing generate a page about what armour people in the guild are wearing?
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08:53.00Stephmwphyber: you want to see how you rate compared to other guildmates?
08:53.05GngskOminous, ping
08:53.05CIA-2203athou * r37921 10EnchantList/ (EnchantList.lua localization.lua):
08:53.05CIA-22EnchantList:
08:53.05CIA-22- guildchat monitoring can now be disabled
08:53.13OminousGngsk: pong
08:53.29GngskOminous, have you had any requests for adding distract/riposte to classtimer?
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08:54.16MikkAthou: We should just combine all the ___List addons imo
08:54.42Athouyeah I guess ^^
08:54.43Solenymbia: ping
08:54.44phyberStephmw: no, that page is already there.  I want to actually be able to look at the armory data on linux boxes where Flash is retarded. :/
08:55.23OminousGngsk: i can add riposte but not distract
08:55.30MikkAthou: I'm going to make craftlist keep data from all toons one of these days
08:56.00MikkBe bloody useful for guild queries, i figure
08:56.10GngskOminous, hmm, chronometer does distract!
08:56.16MikkAnd .. well.. be a shame if it doesn't help enchants also
08:56.23OminousGngsk: distract isnt a debuff
08:57.03MikkAthou: so if you want to incorporate enchantlist into craftlist...?
08:57.06Gngskok, I see
08:58.50AthouI don't mind :) would be nice to have a single addon for queries
08:58.52GagorianReduced DrDamage memory consumption by 100 kB. Win!
08:58.53CIA-2203ominous * r37922 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/Rogue.lua Locales/enUS.lua Locales/koKR.lua): ClassTimer: Added riposte
08:59.53Athouwould be even nicer with some sort of modular structure, allowing people to disable modules they don't need
09:00.10Mikkbit overkill perhaps
09:00.28Mikki mean... enchants are already stored in the craftlist structures today
09:00.37Mikkthey just don't have the nice search keywords that enchantlist has
09:00.51Athouright
09:01.20Athouwell please don't look at enchantlist's code it's kinda crappy :>
09:01.41AthouI planned to rewrite everything but meh, it works fine as it is
09:03.04CIA-2203celellach * r37923 10AtlasLoot/Sets/sets.lua:
09:03.04CIA-22AtlasLoot:
09:03.04CIA-22- Fixed an item color issue.
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09:03.56MikkAthou: well, craftlist is a ripoff of enchantlist so i think i know what it looks like mostly :-P
09:04.04Mikk(No, wasn't I that did the ripoff. I've just been tweaking it.)
09:04.33CIA-2203roartindon * r37924 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: TagCompiler-1.0: Added minimum and maximum to CommonTagData
09:05.01Athoubtw I was wondering if there was a way to avoid guildchat spam when several enchanters are logged
09:05.34Mikkyes. don't respond in guildchat, respond via whisper
09:05.37Mikkthat's what craftlist does
09:06.36fixtzehow do i increase recounts capture range?
09:06.50Gngskis that even possible still?
09:06.56Gngskthought they made it so you can't edit those cVars
09:07.19Gngskthreat-1.0 seems to be causing some trouble if you're running violation as the only addon
09:07.29Mikksome claim that you can increase the range again with 2.1
09:07.46Gngskwouldn't it be easy to test?
09:08.00Mikkof course
09:08.04Mikkgo ahead =)
09:08.06cryogenbtw that weird guy with the cheesy grin who shows up on all unknown spell icons.. who is that? :)
09:08.14MikkSamwise Didier
09:08.18Mikkblizzard's head graphics guy
09:08.21cryogeni always thought it was just thottbot, but i saw it in game the other day :D
09:08.27fixtzesooo
09:08.31fixtzehow do i set that cvar then
09:08.36Gngskyou could use oTweaks
09:08.38Gngskthat's what I use
09:09.04fixtzecause recount isnt as accurate as swstats when theres some range involved, kinda sucks
09:09.08fixtzeggreat on most bosses though
09:11.13TemWhen do pvp points post?
09:11.24Gngskright around now
09:11.25StephmwAntiarc: ouch. when do you clear out the guildstats_out folder?
09:11.55Gngskdoes it depend on realm or do they all roll over at the same time?
09:11.56AthouMikk: I was thinking about a way to sync db between enchanters, but it would take so much time to code for little use
09:12.24[Ammo]Gngsk: what trouble?
09:12.52Gngsk[Ammo], missing acedebug if you run it alone, I tried running it without bigwigs and it complained about missing babble
09:12.56Athoua library for p2p data sharing over the addon channel §
09:13.04[Ammo]Gngsk: ah I must have missed some libs
09:13.12Gngskthat was what I figured
09:13.36Gngskwell, babble-boss-2.2 to be more specific
09:13.47[Ammo]yeah
09:14.48CIA-2203ammo * r37925 10Violation/ (Violation.toc libs/): Violation: libosuction correction
09:14.53MikkAthou: yeah i've been considering that too... no fun at all
09:15.03Mikkthough this particular case is fairly simple
09:15.24Mikkobviously you wouldn't only want to limit it to enchanters tho
09:15.30Mikkso gogo integrate =)
09:17.40CIA-2203gagorian * r37926 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
09:17.40CIA-22DrDamage:
09:17.40CIA-22- Nil out class modules for all other classes after OnEnable, ends up saving up to 100kB memory
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09:23.26ckknightGagorian: why after OnEnable?
09:23.32ckknightyou can check class right away for player
09:23.59ckknightso why not just do an if select(2, UnitClass("player")) ~= "ROGUE" then return end at the top of the class's lua file?
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09:24.25GagorianIt's technically the same thing?
09:24.52cryogenwould that be an easy way to add a disabler for gotwood for none shaman classes?
09:24.53ckknightno, it's not
09:25.02Mikkmore efficient to abort lua parsing at the top of the file
09:25.12ckknightGagorian: if you nil it out after the fact, the memory is created and destroyed
09:25.18kergoth<PROTECTED>
09:25.19ckknightif you don't create it at all, you prevent that
09:25.34ckknighteither way, I really doubt it's the will of Allah.
09:25.52kergothhrm
09:26.04GagorianWell, yeah, I guess it will make a difference at loading + n seconds
09:26.36Fisker--so boooooooooooooooooooored
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09:27.04ckknightGranted, to build is to elevate the mentality of self, and others around self. To add-on positive energy to Allah's nation. To Destroy is to ruin by allowing negativity to outweigh the positive.
09:27.25harldephinSpamSentry isn't blocking those &§$%!ing french gold sellers' spam
09:27.40Stephmwckknight: whaa? eh?
09:28.09kergothi'll second that "whaa? eh?"
09:28.36ckknightpants.
09:28.38ckknight:-P
09:28.39Stephmwkergoth: I'll second your second and raise you a "Huh?"
09:28.48ckknightI got the reaction I wanted
09:28.57ckknight<-- not Muslim
09:29.13Stephmwwere you expecting a somewhat more hostile response?
09:29.24ckknightno, just one of confusion more than anything
09:29.38Stephmwoh, good. It's always nice to help.
09:31.32Gagorianckknight: Actually I remember why I didn't do it in the first place. It made testing annoying :P
09:31.33StephmwMikk: you must live in a grim, grim place
09:31.40ckknightah
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09:32.23syerenHmm ckk, my Pitbull seems to have lost it's debuff borders again :)
09:32.32syeren(Don't shout if you have uploaded a fix :)
09:32.55b__c_yonly debris is left :(
09:32.55fixtzeSo i'm still trying to figure out if it's somehow possible to have a button/macro that'll use Mana gems sequentially (first emerald, then ruby, then citrine) unless of course one doesnt exist
09:33.18JaxonSure, why not?
09:34.00ZealotOnAStickcastsequence is supposed to work for item use now, isn't it?
09:34.07Jaxon^^
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09:40.25ckknightsyeren: oh right, haven't looked into that
09:40.26syerenckknight, when you're available, give me a shout please :)
09:40.33syerenWant me to give out a print out thing?
09:40.39syerenIf you remind me how :)
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09:42.12ckknightAceConsole-2.0
09:42.40syerenHmm?
09:42.47ckknightlook it up, on the wiki
09:42.51syerenOkay.
09:44.16syerenI can't find a list of commands, only the trac change log :p
09:44.27kergothckknight, zoning while an instance map is up results in the old "instance map and normal map on top of one another" behavior still
09:44.45ckknightsyeren: wiki!
09:45.05syerenhttp://www.google.com/custom?cx=015548249089169640250%3Ak4ikqyiacv8&q=AceConsole-2.0&sa=Search&cof=GFNT%3A%23000000%3BGALT%3A%23008000%3BLH%3A55%3BCX%3AWowace%252Ecom%3BVLC%3A%23663399%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BFORID%3A0%3BT%3A%23000000%3BALC%3A%230000CC%3BLC%3A%230000CC%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2Fcoop%2Fimages%2Fgoogle_custom_search_sm%2Egif%3BGIMP%3A%23000000%3BLP%3A1%3BBGC%3A%23f9edd0%3BAH%3Aleft&client=pub-7657809366052
09:45.06syeren:p
09:45.10kergothjesus
09:45.13kergoththats one hell of a url
09:45.28Ominousbloody hell,
09:45.55Ominousi would not recommend trying to revise after being up for 24hrs
09:46.15syerenhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConsole-2.0
09:47.12syerenHmm, I don't really know what I am looking for ckk :p
09:47.19ckknightPrint possibly.
09:48.08syeren"nil"
09:48.08syeren;)
09:48.25ckknightlook at the example.
09:50.43syeren/print frame didn't get the desired results!
09:51.04ckknightwhat do you want?
09:51.18Sole__Ominous: revision is painful :(
09:51.26Ominousya
09:51.43syerenLast time I had this problem, you made me hover my mouse over the debuff/ buff icon and type in a command, it then gave all the information over the frame/module/whatever my mouse hovered over.
09:51.45Solewhat you revising for?
09:51.50syerenAnd within seconds you knew how to fix it.
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10:01.20OminousSole: AS levels
10:01.28nevcairielmorning
10:01.45Ominousnevcairiel: mornin'
10:02.01SoleOminous: Im guessing thats some euro cert
10:02.03Solehi nev
10:02.25OminousSole: england , exams you take at 17
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10:02.44SoleOminous: ahh
10:02.48SoleIm lucky, Im in new zealand
10:02.53Ominouswhat u do there
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10:03.02cryogenAdvanced(Short) Level, i think
10:03.13SoleNCEA, national certificate of educational achievment or something like that
10:03.35Solethats the government regulation but some private schools let you take cambridge instead
10:03.42abbat_wSole, btw are you try eat kangaroo?
10:03.50Soleabbat_w: no I eat sheep
10:03.56Soleabbat_w: kangaroos are across the tasman :P
10:04.05abbat_wAh
10:04.21yacoobSole, how proud your parents must be.
10:04.21Solestrange
10:04.22yacoob8)
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10:04.35Soleyacoob: whats wrong with lamb? :P
10:05.08Solethats weird, I comment out the creation of the gladiator frame. and it still takes up the same ammount of memory
10:05.50abbat_wHeh, what i know about new zeland it's all animals across this place is marsupials
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10:06.13Solewe dont have any cool animals :(
10:06.21abbat_wJerboa? :)
10:06.22Solejust a dinosaur lizard
10:06.26Solewtf is that
10:06.42SoleIt would be way cool if the maori didnt eat all the moa
10:06.45Soledamn natives
10:06.55abbat_whmm.. it's a small animal, like mouse but have ability to run like kangaroo
10:07.53abbat_wmaori?
10:08.09Soletheyre our natives
10:08.13abbat_wah, natives
10:08.24abbat_w;)
10:08.26abbat_wahaha ;)
10:08.50abbat_wanyway new zeland it's wonderful place
10:08.56Soletheyre kinda like the black people of america except in new zealand and of a lighter shade
10:09.04Solenew zealand is boring
10:09.12Soleunless youre into your outdoor sports
10:09.35abbat_wboring? hmm...
10:09.59abbat_wwe have snow and cold temp 2/3 of year
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10:10.20abbat_wonly 2-3 months warm
10:10.20SoleHalf the youth over here act all gangster too. It annoys me to have to see such lack of of brain cells.
10:10.26Solewell I wouldnt know bout that
10:10.41SoleI spent the first 8 years of my life in Ukraine
10:10.52Soleand we only had snow about 4-5 months if it was really bad
10:10.57Soleand really warm summers
10:11.09abbat_wit's depends
10:11.43abbat_wSome of Ukrain territories is resort. Like Sochi
10:12.02abbat_wBut St. Petersburg... ;)
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10:12.56Soleyoure right
10:13.39Solebtw st petersburg is in russia not ukraine :P
10:13.52abbat_wnow yes
10:14.02Solebut besides the country border, not much difference between the 2 anyway
10:14.05abbat_wbut some times ago it was same country
10:14.22abbat_wmy parents from Ukraine
10:14.29Soleyou mean 17 years ago :P
10:14.46abbat_wyep, about 17 years
10:16.21Solewell 17 years and 6 months now
10:17.56abbat_wbut what are you do in Ukraine? you are born in Ukraine?
10:18.13abbat_wor you parents just work in this country?
10:18.34Solemy bad its 15 years and 6 months :P, dissolution came in effect start of 92. silly me
10:18.49Solemy parents are ukranian
10:18.51Soleand Im ukranian
10:18.56abbat_wheh
10:18.58Solethey just decided to move to new zealand when I was 8
10:19.05abbat_w:)
10:19.12abbat_wso, you are russian then :)
10:19.27CIA-2203pettigrow * r37927 10BigWigs/SC/ (5 files): BigWigs: SC: frFR Update
10:19.29Soleukranian
10:19.35abbat_wit's the same
10:19.55Solenah ah, lots of russians are snobs these days . fuck them
10:20.11abbat_wmaybe :)
10:20.29SoleIm speaking from first hand experience :P
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10:21.00abbat_wheh, some of my friends come to australia / new zeland in about 199x with parents
10:21.03Solebut ukraine was still a seperate republic inside the soviet union
10:21.32Soleyeah lots of people migrated to aussie/nz during the 90s
10:22.22abbat_wone of them told me about computers and we visit his parent work where i see computer first time ;)
10:24.47Solehaha
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10:39.25phyber<PROTECTED>
10:39.28phyberI do it at work on our burning machine (we are a video production house) with 3 copies of Toast simultaneously burning to 3 different burners. Often with different sets of files going to each.
10:39.32phyberoops
10:39.34phyberhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=106558824&sid=1
10:39.43phybersomeone tell these tards that you need two boxes to dual box.
10:39.50phyberrunning wow twice on one box != dual box.
10:40.24phyberthey would be called 'WoW Twicers' or something.
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10:42.41cryogenso, what exactly are they doing?
10:42.58Gngskdual wowing
10:43.11cryogenplaying two accounts at once?
10:43.22phyberyes.
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10:43.32cryogensounds like a crazy thing to do, but ok :)
10:43.51phyberthere is some crazy guy that plays 5 accounts at once.  there is a story about it on wowinsider
10:43.57phyberfrom a few months ago.
10:44.04haarm4 mages and a priest
10:44.11ItzelsnitchHi, I was wondering if someone would clarify what exactly that installing AddOns without externals does? I thought it would stop including libs in the packages that it downloaded, as I have also installed the !!!StandaloneLibraries folder, but they seem to still be there?
10:44.17haarmwas going for high warlord on all 5 and got owned by the honor patch
10:44.27cryogeni used to play 2 eve online accounts
10:44.31cryogenbut that actually made sense to do
10:44.42cryogencant really think of a sensible reason to run multiple wow accounts :)
10:44.55wobinpvp
10:45.00haarmhis excuse was to aoe the shit out of everything in BGs
10:45.08cryogenlol
10:45.09wobinThe 4 mages and a priest would own everything on the field
10:45.16wobinsynchronised casting
10:45.24haarmfocused casting ;)
10:45.36cryogensure but that doesnt exactly fit into "sensible" :)
10:45.37wobin4 fireballs at once =P
10:45.42wobinWoW?
10:45.44wobinSensible?
10:45.50wobinWhat is this nonsense you speak of?
10:45.51cryogenrelativity :)
10:47.06MikkItzelsnitch: correct
10:47.39Mikkbut you'll have to set it to delete the folders before installing
10:47.55Mikkand the first time you do it, you also need to disable version checking so it re-installs whatever you already have
10:48.12Mikkalternatively, just nuke all the folders yourself in the file explorer first
10:48.50Itzelsnitchall AddOnName/libs folders?
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10:50.56ItzelsnitchMikk: I think that did it, you've been a great help :)
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10:55.22CIA-2203chuanhsing * r37928 10BigWigs/Outland/ (Gruul.lua Maulgar.lua): BigWigs: update zhTW Gruul and Maulgar
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10:57.20vhaarrAnyone know if I can have a multiline macro with frame:SetAttribute("macrotext", "foo") ?
10:57.31vhaarrLike "/use 13\n/cast X"
11:02.51Mikksee no reason why not
11:04.40CIA-2203heavyphotons * r37929 10Chronometer/Data/Mage.lua:
11:04.40CIA-22Chronometer:
11:04.40CIA-22- Mage: added Portal timers
11:05.01Solevhaarr: yes you can
11:06.07vhaarrhow?
11:06.31Sole"/target Vhaarr\n/cast Spell"
11:07.06Soleso like you said previously
11:07.22vhaarrit does the first action, but nothing after \n
11:07.50SoleLockSmith and Gladiator both have multi-line macros on 1 line
11:08.15Soletaken from gladiator:    macro = "/target "..name.."\n/stopcasting\n/cast "..self.db.profile.left_click_spell      
11:08.21vhaarrweird
11:08.32nevcairielmake sure you have all necessary /stopcasting and such
11:08.40Soleyeah that too
11:08.41CIA-2203chuanhsing * r37930 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (13 files): BigWigs: update zhTW Karazhan
11:08.46nevcairieljust try the macro in a normal macro =P
11:09.01vhaarryeah it works fine
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11:09.37Solepaste it  here
11:09.46vhaarr"/use 13\n/cast Renew"
11:10.06nevcairieldoesnt using a trinket require a stopcasting?
11:10.12vhaarrno
11:10.20Soletry with a stopcasting
11:10.45SoleI thought when using a spell and a trinket at once you could use a castsequence
11:10.49Solejust type the trinket name
11:11.02Chomperssole: had a few erros last night with Gladiator
11:11.11SoleChompers: blame canda
11:11.13Chompersif i do any games today, ill try to paste them here again
11:11.17Soles/canda/canada/
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11:11.37Solego do some games then
11:11.39Sole:P
11:11.45vhaarrstopcasting makes no difference
11:11.51vhaarrcastsequence, won't that require me to click twice?
11:11.55Soleit would
11:12.00vhaarrthen that's not what I want
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11:12.36Neebleris the soft-glow black border that Quartz and a few other castbar addons, a standard blizzard border texture? Or is it just stretched?
11:12.50Neebleraddons have*
11:13.00Soleyou mean the LiteStep texture?
11:13.18Soleif thats what you mean, then its not standard
11:14.39Neeblerno I mean the soft border
11:14.47Neeblernot the texture inside that can be changed
11:15.15Soleyou mean when it lights up after a successful cast?
11:15.46NeeblerI'll edit a photo, one moment
11:17.31wobinwoot
11:17.42wobinI get a ton of assertion failed with threat =P
11:17.53Solesounds fun :P
11:19.07CIA-2203nargiddley * r37931 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua):
11:19.07CIA-22Baggins:
11:19.07CIA-22- Rebuild the PT3 Set selector when a PT3 LoD Module Loads
11:19.07CIA-22- Add Options to load PT3 Modules at startup
11:20.25Ominousvhaarr: does violation work with the new threat-1.0 commit of ktm syncing?
11:20.39vhaarrI think ammo fixed that earlier
11:20.48Chompershe added that last night? :o
11:23.09MikkNargiddley: Wouldn't you _always_ want to load all modules in use by rules?
11:23.24MikkThen again how the hell do you tell which ones those are....
11:25.27NargiddleyMikk, pt3 loads them when a search happens inside thier sets anyway
11:25.59Nargiddleyits a way to get them loaded before they are in use so you can setup the rules to use them
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11:26.36CIA-2203sayclub * r37932 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
11:26.36CIA-22Babble-2.2:
11:26.36CIA-22- Boss : Updated localization koKR
11:27.18CIA-2203daviesh * r37933 10AtlasLoot/Core/LootButtons.lua:
11:27.18CIA-22AtlasLoot:
11:27.18CIA-22- Changed the code used to create item links for greater compatibility
11:27.27vhaarrjeez
11:27.33vhaarrman doesn't know terminology either
11:27.37sbumorning
11:27.37vhaarrit's "For great justice!"
11:27.43cryogenheh
11:27.50cryogenpoor guy :p
11:27.59MikkNargiddley: aaaahhhh gotcha
11:28.23MikkRight... This is why I couldn't set up herbalism rules on my storage toon
11:28.24MikkDamn
11:28.31sbuvhaarr: somebody set up us the bomb?
11:28.51vhaarrhow are you gentlemen
11:29.32MikkNargiddley: Wouldn't it be possible to query PT3 for sets that can be loaded and include them in the dropdowns anyway? And when you try to expand that sublevel, you force a load?
11:29.47MikkV user friendly imo =)
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11:30.15NargiddleyMikk, dont think the names of the sets exist before the mod is loaded, just the top level module name
11:30.48CIA-2203roartindon * r37934 10Assessment/: Assessment: New addon. Initial directory creation commit
11:31.51CIA-2203chuanhsing * r37935 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib-1.0: update zhTW translation
11:32.01Gngskwhutz new addon dew?
11:32.57Wogroiplis there a way to copy the settings from normal bags to bank bags in Baggins?
11:33.12Megaloniz dew craight directoriz
11:35.44CIA-2203roartindon * r37936 10Assessment/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Assessment: Initial commit.
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11:37.47abyssichateGood morning
11:37.59MikkNargiddley: but how does PT3 know which module to load if it doesn't know the set?
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11:38.45abyssichateIs there any addon that you are aware of which disables the click-sound that occurs when you click a button?
11:38.56Nargiddleymikk, the root set is the module name
11:39.00Mikkindeed
11:39.09Mikkso that's what you want then
11:39.20Mikkjust present the PT3 module names in the root PT3 menu
11:39.42Nargiddleyand load it when ?
11:39.51Mikkhmm well you probably don't want to load on mouseover
11:40.08MikkStick a "click to load" in the submenu?
11:40.23Nargiddleyhm i guess
11:40.44Nargiddleyits working atm tho, i'll look at a better way tomorrow
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11:41.02MikkCause frankly building rules is complicated enough even for semi-advanced users ... having to know that you need to go digging in another submenu to get more options is .. a bit far fetched
11:41.13CIA-2203chuanhsing * r37937 10DarkCandy/DarkCandy.toc: DarkCandy: add Notes-zhTW
11:41.53sbuRoartindon: combat monitor? huh? :o
11:41.55MikkDid I mention that I like driving the GUI devs crazy at work too? :P
11:42.07Mikk(And they need to listen to me too. Muahahaha.)
11:43.56CIA-2203chuanhsing * r37938 10DeclineDuel/DeclineDuel.toc:
11:43.56CIA-22DeclineDuel:
11:43.56CIA-22- add Notes-zhTW
11:44.00StephmwMikk: designer, or just perfectionism?
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11:44.44MikkMy business card says "Lead Architect" these days I think
11:45.15Stephmwperfectionist then :)
11:45.20Mikk;)
11:45.35MikkOHO! I found why dewdrop is closing my sliders for me
11:45.46CIA-2203roartindon * r37939 10Assessment/Modules/Healing.lua: Assessment: Typo in healing module
11:45.47wobinYou design lead!
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11:45.47Ominouswhats the key binding name for num pad 1?
11:45.47Stephmwmine just says Sr Software Engineer.... and I hate architects (well, ok, only the ones that have never coded before)
11:45.50MikkIt's because I create the function on the spot in the :AddLine
11:45.51wobinWhat a great job
11:45.51Industrialwhos Cal on the forums?
11:45.54[dRaCo]~seen nymbia
11:47.24purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 44m 14s ago, saying: 'hrm'.
11:47.25Industrial~seen Cal
11:47.59purlcal <n=cal@augusta54.demon.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 522d 14h 35m 27s ago, saying: 'what version of NTPL is in debian stable?'.
11:47.59MikkStephmw: Well, I was the sole developer for said piece of software back in the day. I know it pretty well :-P
11:48.00IndustrialCal
11:48.00IndustrialSuper Moderator
11:48.00IndustrialSr. Member
11:48.00StephmwMikk: fair enough
11:48.00Industrial?
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11:48.02MikkI wouldn't be surprised if there's a few of em that hate my guts though. "This code is butt ugly and unmaintainable. That's not shipping. Fix."
11:48.02Mikk>:]
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11:48.03StephmwMikk: meh, if that's their attitude then they need more time on a commercial project
11:48.07SoleMikk: thats their fault for coding shit
11:48.13MikkYes and yes
11:48.16CIA-2203chuanhsing * r37940 10DelMapa/DelMapa.toc: DelMapa: add Notes-zhTW
11:48.17StephmwMikk: "This code is butt ugly, but the customer doesn't know an he's still paying"
11:48.36MikkAh, that's conslutting
11:48.38Industrialcept that with wow its not about money and there are no customers
11:48.43StephmwMikk: not what I like, but just an observation of the industry :(
11:48.55MikkConslutting is all about cutting corners
11:48.59Industrialso do it right imo :>
11:49.04StephmwIndustrial: && your code is open
11:49.10MikkThis is a product line that's 10 years old and will be around for a long time yet. If we cheat, it only bites us in the arse.
11:49.19SoleMikk: whats the product?
11:49.31MikkFirewall
11:49.34IndustrialStephmw: yes
11:49.44MikkHm, no, wait.. "Security Services Platform" i think it's called now
11:49.52JoshBorkepsh, firewalls are obsolete
11:49.59MikkAye, hence SSP :-P
11:50.00JoshBorkeit's now about voodoo magic
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11:50.09StephmwMikk: all I can say is... the deadlines & stuff aren't dictated by the conslutters of the job-for-lifers... management just does it by fiat: sales driven
11:50.25Stephmw*or
11:50.41CIA-2203chuanhsing * r37941 10Detox/Detox.toc: Detox: add Notes-zhTW
11:50.55StephmwMikk: it's one reason I'm taking a break from it all
11:50.57JoshBorkereally, mikk is just a perfectionist :-P
11:51.25MikkAnd yeah management can be idiots, but they've seen shit code bite us in the arse and cause even greater delays down the line before
11:51.33MikkOr, hell, even one big customer that threatened to sue our asses off
11:51.41MikkThey listen a bit more these days :-P
11:51.45Stephmwyou're well blessed then, they've learned
11:51.49Mikk\o/
11:51.56Stephmwthese guys job-hop every 2 years and never look back
11:52.18Stephmw*ahem*
11:52.20Stephmwanyway
11:52.27CIA-2203chuanhsing * r37942 10DeuceLog/DeuceLog.toc: DeuceLog: add Notes-zhTW
11:52.30Mikkwell, i wouldn't be surprised if ours get brain transplants every once ina while either
11:52.31Stephmwdeveloping mobile devices stinks
11:52.43Mikkhaha wheee omg ouch
11:53.03Mikkyeah i've seen that happen from the sidelines in connection with my work
11:53.15Mikkrush out the next model hurry hurry hurry
11:54.12Mikk(the connection being cellphones connecting via wireless gateways at home and using internet lines)
11:54.12Mikk(for voice, that is)
11:54.13Stephmwright now I'm backporting a feature to a model that's a year old...
11:54.13Mikko.O
11:54.19Stephmwa year in mobiles == a decade in desktops
11:54.26Mikkyeah i was just gonna say
11:54.30Mikkwhat the hell is the point in that?
11:54.32CIA-2203chuanhsing * r37943 10devnull/devnull.toc: devnull: add Notes-zhTW
11:54.38Mikkit's not like they'll sell more of that model
11:54.39Stephmwnew markets don't mind the old stuff
11:54.43Stephmwso it sells
11:54.49Mikkah
11:55.21Stephmwlow-end stuff mostly
11:55.36Stephmw300mil I mentioned yesterday is last year's numbers ;)
11:56.15Mikktbh babysitting long-term projects is so much more rewarding
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11:57.33Stephmwaye, I worked in a great place a few years back, shit software, but great people and environment
11:57.51Mikkcause you actually DO get the chance to go back and tweak that code that you wanted to tweak =P
11:57.52Stephmwthing was... even though it was shit, it was still the best technologically in that sector
11:58.30Mikk(ok, still, you usually don't get the time to tweak ALL the code you wanted to tweak... but still =))
11:58.57Stephmwyeah :)
11:59.09Stephmwget the intern who's full of ideas to do that
11:59.51IndustrialSunTiger: are you Cal? -_^
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12:04.10Mikkhuhu, interns full of ideas are dangerous
12:04.23Mikknever let those free on existing code :-P
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12:08.46StephmwAfter 2 weeks on ours, they'e be crying for mummy
12:09.06Stephmwafter 3 months they's start understanding it
12:09.18Stephmwand after 8 they'd wish they'd never taken the job
12:09.37Stephmwbzzzzt, too late, no longer in the probation period
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12:18.38Soleyou guys make the software development industry sound boring
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12:20.49StephmwSole: most of it can be humdrum, especially in established businesses
12:21.05StephmwSole: startups are very exciting, but not always suitable if you have a family
12:21.30Solestartups: as in new to the industry?
12:21.55Mikkyaknow what i want?  delay in Reslack
12:22.13Mikklike .. 10-20 secs to abort an autoconfirm
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12:22.25sbustop talking, i have to work ;p
12:22.28StephmwSole: fresh new companies with few people, usually just burning venture capital to start with
12:22.35SoleWoW the Warhammer Online world map looks way more interesting than the WoW one
12:22.36krkaStephmw: yeah mobile development FTL
12:22.39SoleStephmw: ahh startup companies
12:22.48StephmwSole: :)
12:22.49krkait is a lot easier if you can focus on purely midp2 / cldc 1.1, imo
12:23.08Stephmwkrka: aye, as long as you're developing MIDlets
12:23.09krkaSonyEricsson and nokia are pretty decent to work with these days
12:23.34Stephmwkrka: if you're working below that it can be painful... (read *is* painful)
12:23.51kenlyricany priests out there found a working alternative to mendwatch? I guess it broken in 2.1
12:23.52krkaah, never gotten below that actually
12:24.03Solewhys it painful?
12:24.06CIA-2203bom * r37945 10TwiCo/ (10 files in 4 dirs):
12:24.07CIA-22TwiCo: initial commit
12:24.07CIA-22- DO NOT USE! <Communication with Twinkguild>
12:24.12Soleis the programming just stupidly complex?
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12:24.20nekohhey all
12:24.20krkaimo, mostly the diversity of devices
12:24.25krkathey all have their own limitations and bugs
12:24.28krkathat have to work around
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12:24.51Stephmwthat, and external interfacing (talking with things like native widget, call stack, calendaring, etc)
12:25.08Stephmwplus specs that are at the same time very strict, but too vague
12:25.25Stephmwetc, etc
12:25.30StephmwOH, and....
12:25.39Stephmwthere are virtually no dev tools
12:26.01Stephmwbecause efforts that could go into making tools for in-house developers are spent fixing problems for external developers
12:26.12Soleso what language and SDI do you use for mobiles?
12:26.28StephmwEmbedded C and Java
12:26.28CIA-2203bom * r37946 10TwiCo/libs/: TwiCo: added external libs
12:26.39SoleJava...
12:26.56StephmwSole: don't start with the J2SE stuff now :)
12:27.03StephmwSole: J2ME is very different
12:27.13SoleStephmw: its sane?
12:27.20StephmwSole: it's _basic_
12:27.25StephmwSole: it's fast
12:27.28StephmwSole: it's small
12:27.34StephmwSole: it's a pain in the fucking arse
12:27.43Solewha
12:27.51Solethat just contradicts what you said
12:28.00Stephmwhow so?
12:29.13Solewell you say its basic, fast and small
12:29.20Soleisnt that a good thing?
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12:29.47Stephmwyou can use the same description for assembly... does it make it nice to code in? no.
12:30.09Sole:P
12:30.37Solewell Ive never bothered learning Java because, glancing at the code and from what most people in this irc have told me...its a huge pain in the ass
12:31.16Stephmwit's a tool... java on mobiles is very different to desktop java, as is Embedded C and normal C
12:31.20Soleofftopic: theres a "Misty Mountain" in the mountain ranges in the Warhammer map
12:31.38Stephmwthe differences are constraints, syntax, conventions, hacks, limitations, etc
12:32.10StephmwSole: IMO it's possible to turn any language into a bane of someone's existence
12:32.21SoleStephmw: thats true
12:32.32StephmwSole: much more likely btw if you're coming in at the maintenance phase
12:33.52SoleStephmw: I can imagine, reading a big application's code can be hard to interpret if its written by someone else
12:34.41StephmwIt's ready, ship it!
12:34.51Solehahaha
12:35.11StephmwSole: actually, I'm just a bit bitter, don't worry overmuch :)
12:35.31Soleyoure bitter because mobile development is a pain in the ass?
12:36.11Stephmwjust software development in general can be frustrating
12:36.18Stephmwmobiles is just the latest thing
12:36.19Soledo most companies require programmers to create big, detailed, structured flowcharts of everything they ever write?
12:36.33wobinNo, but it can help =P
12:36.34StephmwBwahahahahahaha
12:36.36Stephmwhahahahahaha
12:36.37Stephmwhahahahaha
12:36.39CIA-2203skyboat * r37947 10SimpleChatMods/config.lua: SimpleChatMods: Cleaned up config.lua
12:36.41Stephmw*cough*
12:36.47nevcairielis sometimes wish they would
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12:36.54nevcairielive taken over a really borked project
12:36.55Stephmwnevcairiel: exactly
12:36.55wobinIt's true =(
12:36.56CIA-2203mok * r37948 10xchar/ (xchar.lua xchar.toc): xchar: missed TimePlayed and TimeAtLevel
12:36.59nevcairieland there is nada documentation
12:37.01wobinDocumentation is GOOD
12:37.06wobinWhy won't people listen?
12:37.14Soleisnt it good after you write the code?
12:37.19SoleI know planning code helps a ton
12:37.27wobinI've literally had to hand-walk my company into using more documentation
12:37.51wobinprocedures, plans, code comments =\
12:38.13Stephmwoh, they do, but there are three problems with docs: 1) there's no time, 2) it's outdated before you wrote it and 3) programmers are the wrong person to write em, same as they're the wrong people to design UIs
12:38.15nevcairieli was near a point where i would just say "screw your f'ing project - pay me to redo it or it will never get anywhere" .. but i decided against that ..^^
12:38.35nevcairielso i got alot of ducttape :P
12:38.50Stephmwnevcairiel: I call it chewing gum and sticky tape... but yeah
12:39.39SoleStephmw: Im an aspiring programmer and I make good UIs :P
12:40.15nevcairielmy UIs are always more functional then anything else
12:40.16StephmwSole: alas, that's what we all think
12:40.20wobinSuch idealism =)
12:40.34StephmwSole: if they're truly good, change tracks, become a designer
12:40.39StephmwSole: there's more money in it
12:40.46Solewell, I was planning on becoming an animator
12:41.21SoleI just try to keep it all simple, and for the love of good use a color scheme with contrast
12:41.40StephmwSole: the later is rarely under your control :(
12:41.53SoleStephmw: :(
12:42.13wobin<PROTECTED>
12:42.19Solesrsly?
12:42.24Stephmwseriously.
12:42.26wobin"We need this colour closer to that colour"
12:42.44StephmwSole: take Orange's colour scheme: Bright Orange, White and 2 shades of gray.
12:42.45Matrix110Sole Link to the Worldmap of WO?
12:42.57StephmwSole: on a fucking mobile screen.
12:43.01wobin><
12:43.07SoleStephmw: wtf
12:43.12SoleOrange on gray....
12:43.22wobinor even gray on orange
12:43.30Solenow thats more fucked
12:44.05SoleMaybe Im just weirdo, but I do want to stab most people for being stupid when I see their code/ui design in class :P
12:44.55Stephmw... or check out Vodafone's UI... red+white (and some blue)
12:45.14Solered on white looks good
12:45.21Solein control however
12:45.32SoleI havent seen blue anywhere on vodafone though
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12:47.22Chompers\AddOns\Gladiator\Gladiator.lua line 439:   attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'new_health' (a nil value)
12:47.24Chompers.\AddOns\Gladiator\Gladiator.lua line 426:   attempt to compare number with nil
12:47.33Chompers\AddOns\Gladiator\Gladiator.lua line 259:   attempt to index upvalue 'data' (a nil value)
12:47.35Sole:(
12:47.50Matrix110ah btw Sole i wanted to ask something Tattle needs to be enabled to display Ranking/Team name or?
12:47.59StephmwSole: can't find a good example of the actual mobile UI... but the colours in the scheme are on their front page: http://www.orange.co.uk
12:48.17CIA-2203bom * r37949 10TwiCo/TwiCo.toc: TwiCo: correct note
12:48.26SoleMatrix110: Get Gladiator, run the DataFillesLOD, and youre good to go
12:48.29[Liquidor]What's wrong with gray and orange?
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12:48.45SoleYou just need the Gladiator_* battlegroup addon in your addons dir
12:48.54Matrix110hmm so having Gladiator_EU10(in my case) would be enough
12:48.55Matrix110hmm
12:48.57Matrix110k
12:48.59Soleindeed
12:49.03Solethe rest arent relevant though
12:49.06Chompersoops, its been disabled
12:49.06Soletheyre all LOD
12:49.08Chomperssorry :p
12:49.22Matrix110ive deleted them though bit too many folders:P
12:49.34SoleChompers, are you trying ot tell me those errors came up and its not my fault?
12:49.40Stephmw[Liquidor]: very poor visibility in sunlight for a start, 2 grays makes it hard to read in normal light..
12:49.53Chompersyup, i logged onto an alt and got all of those
12:49.54Stephmw[Liquidor]: there are others, but I'm not a designer
12:50.08CIA-2203mok * r37950 10xchar/ (boss.lua mail.lua tooltip.lua xchar.lua xchar.toc): xchar: removed some debug output
12:50.35SoleChompers: hmm, so whats wrong? :P
12:50.54Chompersi had a few errors while playing last night, my teams at work right now so i cant test
12:51.14Chompersand no one wants to try a practice game with me
12:51.16Soleimpossible, I did a whole 2 minutes of testing and I was error free
12:51.23Solejust queue up for a practise game
12:51.28Soleyou dont need a team for that
12:51.35Soleits how I test glad
12:51.43Chompersits weird, i was on the gladiator list as an enemy team member
12:51.51Soleoh god
12:51.56wobinYou're your own worst enemy
12:52.50Matrix110just queue up for a practise game <---come to my realm... i was queued 14hrs until i got a 2vs2 3vs3 5vs5 until i got a game:P
12:52.58Matrix110rated is <1min though..
12:53.35Solehaha
12:53.41Solewell I play in the famous BG9 :)
12:53.42Matrix110i didnt even knew i still was in queue...
12:53.48Solequeue times are fast
12:53.58Matrix110well rated is fast here aswell
12:54.13Matrix110but i didnt want to configure Gladiator in a rated 5vs5
12:54.18Solepractise are a bit slow during offpeak, but 3v3 seem to be very popular
12:54.35SoleMatrix110: /glad show
12:54.35Soleconfigure all you want
12:54.39Chompers/glad opts
12:54.46Chompersbah, beat me to it
12:54.46Matrix110well that wasnt inside when i configured it:P
12:54.59Solethe opts are kinda big now
12:55.24SoleIm thinking of splitting Glad into external modules
12:55.33Solekinda like Quartz and Cartographer
12:55.57donrat4ng3r1n3
12:57.02Solehmm
12:58.50abbat_wi don't see counterspell cooldown with antagonist ;(
12:59.18SoleStephmw: when you mentioned become a designer, do you mean a UI designer?
12:59.30Soleabbat_w: :(
12:59.38Soleits in there!
13:00.00abbat_wno
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13:00.19abbat_wand it's not in cooldown filter
13:02.09SoleI'll try test it
13:03.45abbat_wmaybe this is because cs may be Counterspell and Counterspell - Silenced?
13:04.49Solemaybe, maybe
13:08.14abbat_wanyway today i have some time for tweak ui and maybe i try to test Antagonist in bgs
13:13.38jwwpuawas there a new gladiator released? big update?
13:14.34cryogencan someone(preferably a heavy bar/button user) link me a screenshot of their bar setup(preferably bartender)?
13:14.41cryogeni'm having a hell of a time finding a layout i like
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13:16.58abbat_w=))))
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13:19.06Josh_Borkemorning
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13:22.11Neebleroh man oh man oh man. japanese vegetarian food porn http://www.flickr.com/photos/moniki/
13:22.17CIA-2203roartindon * r37952 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: Assessment: If you do not have an enemy targetted, then threat will show the highest threat a player has for any given target
13:22.47Solejwwpua: yes, there have been some pretty big additions to gladiator over the past few days
13:25.20Gandharvasomeone here using SimpleChatMods? Is it possible to stay in the same channel until is switch it manually?
13:25.41vhaarrGandharva: yes
13:25.43GandharvaIt always jumps back to /s for me
13:26.00vhaarrreally?
13:26.03vhaarrworks fine for me
13:26.04wobin<PROTECTED>
13:26.10GandharvaWould you please explain how vhaar?
13:26.22vhaarrGandharva: I run it unmodified from the svn
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13:26.48GandharvaOh, hm. Doesn't work here
13:27.09vhaarrI think you have some other addon mixing it up.
13:27.35GandharvaPrat is disabled and I don't use any other chatmods.
13:28.45GandharvaSo this should work out of the box you say?
13:29.05vhaarrDepends what you mean, it should stick to party, guild, say like default UI.
13:29.17vhaarrIf you want it to sticky to other channels, you need to edit sticky.lua.
13:29.25CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r37953 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
13:29.25CIA-22FuBar_TrainerFu:
13:29.25CIA-22- Added missing locale string
13:29.25CIA-22- DemonTrainer module actually unload itself if class != Warlock.
13:29.25CIA-22- Drycoded
13:29.31vhaarrAnd run scmSticky:Enable()
13:30.29CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r37954 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFu_VisitTrainer.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Bah L[] is needed for localized strings...
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13:34.09Gandharvavhaarr: /script scmSticky:Enable() did the job. thank you!
13:34.15cryogenis OnEnable the proper place to put something like a class check, to prevent loading?
13:34.49vhaarrcryogen: Just do it at the top of the file; |if select(2, UnitClass("player")) ~= "CLASS" then return end|
13:34.53Fisker-anyone have an idea of which addons made my tooltips fugly purple?
13:35.00[Ammo]unless you want to unload the whole addon p
13:35.03[Ammo]and never load it again
13:35.04Fisker-only game tooltips
13:35.47cryogenvhaarr: presumably if i log out and log back in with the right character it'll all load ok?
13:35.53vhaarryes
13:35.56cryogenneat
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13:37.03GagorianBut it also makes testing more painful
13:37.10cryogenwhy dont people put that in themselves? :)
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13:40.01CIA-2203roartindon * r37955 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: Assessment: TPS view works globally, threat works on per-target basis.
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13:40.56Fisker-Where's my glaze texture?
13:40.57Fisker-I mean wtf
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13:41.00Fisker-:(
13:41.08Fisker-/wrists
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13:41.14Fisker-it was the best texture in the whole game
13:41.36Neeblerword
13:42.21Fisker-i died a bit inside
13:42.25art3miswowi bukket has a features dongle!
13:42.27cryogenfound it quite ugly myself :)
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13:43.00Fisker-any particular valid reason as to why it was removed?
13:43.53GagorianAny alliance paladin roaming about?
13:45.05deltronnay
13:45.27ZurkWait, what?
13:45.30ZurkGlaze removed?
13:46.31ZurkOr... not..
13:47.02Fisker-well it's not here anymore
13:47.09ZurkIt is for me
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13:47.26Neeblerif you do a fresh install of pitbull you have like .. 3 textures.
13:47.54StephmwSole: yes, UI or interaction... but depending on target device you may need additional training.
13:47.58KillmoreRoartindon: what is Assessment ? Threat-1.0 GUI ?
13:48.00nevcairielsharedmedia has glaze
13:48.30Tornhoofomen is the threat 1.0 ui i thought?
13:48.37NelsonMhey, if WoW freezes up w hen it launches, is there any way I can figure out which addon is broken?
13:48.50NelsonMie: is there a way to force an interrupt and see whose stack I'm in?
13:48.58KillmoreTornhoof: Omen is a threat-1.0 GUI
13:49.10GagorianNo reason why there can't be several options :)
13:49.48Tornhoofah ok
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13:50.49GagorianThink it would be worth disabling foreign locale files from being loaded if not needed?
13:51.11KillmoreIt could be nice to have many choice for Threat-1.0, but all of them need to sync between
13:51.37Josh_BorkeKillmore: sync between?  Threat-1.0 should be the one handling syncing of Threat
13:51.39NelsonMI'm really excited about Omen/Threat
13:51.40Fisker-:)
13:51.47Killmoreah yeah, true.. sorry :P
13:51.53StephmwSole: a good blog to read up on is http://www.littlespringsdesign.com/
13:52.00Fisker-if i was night elf you'd get some tits nevcairiel
13:52.02Neeblerfisker get http://www.wowace.com/files/SharedMedia/SharedMedia.zip for glaze
13:52.05SoleStephmw: thanks
13:52.52nevcairieli am a nightelf myself, no worries :P
13:53.25deltronTornhoof: you should team up with the guy who wrote shammyspy :)
13:53.48Tornhoofno
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13:53.56alextNelsonM: not sure i can answer your freezing question except to say that I get the same thing when I load bananabar2
13:54.04alexthowever i dont think its bananabar2, its a conflict with something else
13:54.13NelsonMmy UI was freezing yesterday when logging in while in a raid. works if I'm not in a raid
13:54.25alexthappens with my UnitFrames disabled too, i know there was an issue with custom unitframes and freezing
13:54.30NelsonMI'd like to figure out what addon is doing that; I'm guessing oRA2. But I don't know short of disabling one by one and logging in
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13:54.34alextoh
13:54.38alextpeople were talking about that yesterday
13:55.02deltronTornhoof: hah ok
13:55.03alexti forget what the solution was
13:55.03[Ammo]oRA2 does not do that NelsonM
13:55.03[Ammo]it's related to Unitframes and blizzard bugs
13:55.03alextthat might be the issue with custom unitframes?
13:55.05alextyah cool
13:55.07Tornhoofthey should work fine together deltron
13:55.13NelsonMag_UnitFrames, Ammo?
13:55.21NelsonMI suspect Ace2 will have a workaround faster than Blizzard :-)
13:55.22alextany custom unitframes i think
13:55.28deltronTornhoof: yeah I use them both together right now, have you tried shammyspy out yet?
13:55.28nevcairielagUF is fine for me
13:55.30[Ammo]I use agUF and have no hangups
13:55.31NelsonMno one else in my guild has this bug
13:55.35nevcairielbut i think its a weird combination of some mods
13:55.39[Ammo]then again I don't use agUF raidframes
13:55.54alexti dont use the raid frames from any UF mod
13:55.55NelsonMyeah, this was the only time I've seen this bug, in a 25 person raid. but kind of bad timing
13:55.59Fisker-can you comment code out in CSS?
13:56.01alextpitbull / ag_uf work fine for me so far
13:56.02NelsonManyway, is there like a Ctrl-Break for the Lua interpreter? Or no?
13:56.15Tornhoofya once deltron, i don't need its functionality
13:56.24Flexomcan anyone tell me what bartender3_autobindings does actually? my understanding of code isn't the best and there is no description:p
13:56.52cryogenis there a mod that will let you move the blizzard windows around? quest log/ah etc?
13:57.27NelsonMI guess there's no way to interrupt an addon from the client. That's kinda weird.
14:00.10NelsonMflexom: I don't know, but from the name I'm guessing it tries toa utomatically pickup your keybindings for action bars?
14:00.34FlexomNelsonM: it picks the blizzard bindings then i reckon...
14:00.55NelsonMThat'd be a nice mod; I was really confused first time I installed Bartender3
14:00.57MikkNelsonM: No, you can't interrupt the Lua interpreter. That'd break down the WHOLE user interface. It's single-threaded. Everything lives in the same space.
14:01.49FlexomNelsonM: aye, though would be nice to use the same system xperl uses and bind buttons by hovering over them and direct bind the buttons:)
14:01.50MikkThen again if it's deadlocked, it'd be nice to be able to signal for the current thread of executiion to error out
14:02.09NelsonMflexom: bongos does that too, it's pretty cool
14:02.33NelsonMmikk: yeah, something like that. almost every interpreted environment has something like that, surprises me a bit WoW doesn't.
14:04.01MikkIt's not like it'd be able to stay aborted, but at least you'd be able to get an error dump pointing at where it's deadlocking
14:04.06alextyah
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14:04.09alexti would love that
14:04.18CIA-2203roartindon * r37957 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: Assessment: Fixed threat value corruption causing readouts to go wonky after multiple targets
14:04.19alextas it is now, i cant see what the problem is when i load bananabar2
14:04.20NelsonMI'll file a petition with a GM :-)
14:04.27alextthat loading bar freezes at 1/3 filled
14:04.28MikkBwhaha
14:04.31alextand i gota CTRL+ALT+DEL
14:04.36alextno logs no nothing
14:04.50MikkHrmz I really really should get wowbench back up >.<
14:04.55NelsonMkill -QUIT pidOfWarcraft
14:05.45RoartindonKillmore: sorry, didn't see your message before
14:05.52RoartindonKillmore: Assessment = damage meters addon
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14:07.23vhaarrRoartindon: What's wrong with Violation and Recount?
14:07.52Roartindonvharr: Firstly, I can't open multiple windows
14:08.04deltronviolation worked fine for me last night
14:08.17Roartindonso I can watch healing, or dps, or threat, but not all 3 in separate windows if  Iwant
14:08.32vhaarrRoartindon: 1. It's open-source, fix it. 2. Ammo is working on multiple displays this minute.
14:08.49NelsonMam I a bad person if I say I like sw_stats more? :-P
14:08.53Roartindonvhaarr: 3. I can write my own that does what I want it to do without stepping on anyones toes?
14:09.50vhaarrRoartindon: No, I feel like you're stepping on toes with assessment.
14:09.54vhaarrI can't change how I feel.
14:10.17RoartindonI want something that displays all of recount/recap's information
14:10.23RoartindonWithout having separate addons
14:10.23NelsonMwhat would be really nice is if there were multiple UIs for damage meters that all shared the same communication protocol so we could choose which we use
14:10.29GagorianIs any client actually "enGB" instead of "enUS"?
14:10.32NelsonMfolks in my guild use sw_stats, recap, and violation. and we're not synced.
14:10.40RoartindonViolation didn't look like it was ever going to gain the detailed information that I'd want
14:11.08vhaarrRoartindon: No, but I'm sure Recount is, I don't see why you can't work on that instead.
14:11.23RoartindonIf it'll make you happier, I'll just pull it off the ace svn
14:11.26Roartindonand work on it myself
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14:12.01vhaarrit just boggles me why someone would start their own project when there's perfectly good code on the SVN already
14:12.13RoartindonOr maybe I want to approach it differently from how recount does
14:12.21Roartindonwhy start Pitbull when ag_UnitFrames exists then?
14:12.32vhaarrI didn't start pitbull
14:12.35[Ammo]Pitbull horribly failed anyway
14:12.44[Ammo]in it's performance goals
14:12.44deltron[Ammo]: wut?
14:12.50vhaarryes it did
14:13.01vhaarrit set out to be a performance improvement over agUF, and failed horribly at that.
14:13.02[Ammo]it's 3x the size of agUF and eats cpu like a mad monkey on speed
14:13.20omega_but the red interaction lines make it all worth it
14:13.26[Ammo]haha
14:13.29Flexomlol
14:13.39hastewhat is the line? I saw some UI with like... a maze of them
14:13.41Flexomthey are always in my way, no use for them as a mage^^
14:13.44ZurkNo, they just make for a messy, confusing UI ^^
14:13.55BaraiusThey're a module.
14:13.57Matrix110they can be good for healers
14:14.05hastebut what are they good for :p ?
14:14.08Mikkinfo overload
14:14.09hasteI couldn't make any sence of it
14:14.13BaraiusInteraction lines or something
14:14.19deltronpitbull is awesome for healing
14:14.19BaraiusWhen foo is doing something to bar
14:14.25vhaarrhaste: I think it draws lines between people who target eachother
14:14.32StephmwIf you don't prototype new ideas, nothing will ever innovate.
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14:14.44BaraiusI don't have it installed in mine.
14:14.45hastevhaarr: that doens't explain the maze I saw of them :(
14:14.46Matrix110afaik Healers should see who gets healed by which person
14:14.56vhaarrhaste: well I don't know, I'm just guessing really
14:15.03Solewhen foo interacts with bar   actually
14:15.08hastevhaarr: we'll leave it at that :D
14:15.20vhaarr^^
14:15.26Roartindonvhaarr: I looked at recount briefly, but I wanted something more flexible
14:15.34Borked|Raider16:10 <NelsonM> what would be really nice is if there were multiple UIs for damage meters that all shared the same communication protocol so we could choose which we use - the data from sws are realy easy optained, and easy to make your own ui for it.
14:15.35RoartindonViolation didn't fit what I wanted detail wise or flexibility wise
14:15.42vhaarrRoartindon: I know violation doesn't fit that bill
14:15.44vhaarrRoartindon: and it never will
14:15.51StephmwPitbull for me has one thing over aguf... party targets
14:15.58Roartindonvhaarr: Okay, so the question is why Assessment rather then recount?
14:16.05vhaarrRoartindon: alright, well it's not personal, it just baffles me why people can't cooperate instead
14:16.07vhaarrRoartindon: yes
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14:16.09RoartindonAssessment is tag based.
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14:16.22RoartindonIf I want to watch damage, I use  [damagedealt]
14:16.22CIA-2203pb_ee1 * r37958 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots.toc: GridStatusHots: Updating TOC to 20100.
14:16.24Borked|RaiderAnyone worked with loot addons, able give me some advies on how to(if posible) to make so items from a table only are showed if they are linkable(beeing in the server cache)
14:16.29RoartindonIf I want to watch healing, I use [healingdone]
14:16.49BaraiusThat's a cool idea.
14:16.53Roartindonif I wanat damage/healing ratio, I ca use [damagedealt/maximum(healingdone, 1)]
14:16.59Matrix110Borked|Raider check Ludwig/Itemsync code
14:17.05Solethats kinda cool
14:17.06RoartindonIf I want to watch raw healing, I can do [healingdone+overhealingDone]
14:17.11RoartindonAnd that's all already in there
14:17.17RoartindonYou can define as many sets of data as you want to watch
14:17.18Borked|RaiderMatrix110, addonname = ludwig?
14:17.23Matrix110yes
14:17.25Matrix110its on wowinterface
14:17.27Matrix110from Tuller
14:17.36RoartindonI have tags for sort criteria, I have filters, I ahve a number of things
14:17.44Roartindonand the thing is only a day old, but it's a step towards what I wanted
14:17.51Borked|Raideryou know it sync with the server cache, or just and idea Matrix110`?
14:18.10RoartindonIf I want some crazy stat, like... frost damage vs nature damage for hydross, I can add that tag in, and it'll go
14:18.18vhaarrRoartindon: alright, I didn't know about the tag stuff, I guess that makes it quite different from anything else
14:18.19RoartindonDPS view is simply [damagedone/combattime]
14:18.24Matrix110it displays ALL items it possibly can display from ItemID 1-XXXXX (defined in the lua)
14:18.34Matrix110means you needed to see em and the server
14:18.43NelsonMinteresting idea, roartindon
14:18.46RoartindonTags are used for the bar values, and the actual text on the bars... and bars have variable number of texts
14:18.49NelsonMcan you calculate overheal HPS?
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14:19.04Roartindonnelson: yep... that's just overhealingDone/maximum(combatTime, 1)
14:19.09StephmwRoartindon: a feature question, can I dictate how long the last values remain on-screen after the fight is over?
14:19.11RoartindonIt's not in there by default, but I can get it up
14:19.30RoartindonStephmw: Heh.. at the moment, it just shows the last fight data until a new fight data set is created
14:19.39Borked|RaiderMatrix110, sounds like its just checking the local cache?
14:19.46RoartindonIt keeps a total history, last fight, previous fight.. and up to a user configurable amounnt before that
14:19.47NelsonMyeah, this is why having 2 mods isn't ideal. you've got good features, violation has good features
14:19.55NelsonMif only you put your chocolate in my peanut butter
14:20.09StephmwNelsonM: Ewwww
14:20.10Matrix110yes but you cant display more items(atleast linkable) anyway
14:20.10RoartindonBut I don't really have the options in there to make use of the older histories (yet)
14:20.25RoartindonYou can choose between total, current and previous fights tm
14:20.26Roartindonatm
14:20.28Borked|RaiderMatrix110, yes you can
14:20.48RoartindonThe tags are used to deterine what to display, as well as what data it is dependent on
14:20.57Matrix110aha
14:20.58StephmwRoartindon: I'll be happy to see my last Threat compared to other party members at the end of the fight :)
14:20.59Borked|RaiderMatrix110, you can have items in your local cache that you cant link, and you can have items that can be linked, but not in your local cache
14:21.00RoartindonSo that updates are only performed when that data is marked as dirty
14:21.19RoartindonStephmw: I'd like to too.. at the moment tho, it receives threat-1.0's clear-threat values
14:21.21Flexombiggest problem for me with damagemeter/swstats/ktmthreat is that they chew memory like nuts... same reason I don't like auctioneer...
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14:21.25Borked|Raidermatrix110, http://www.wowwiki.com/Interface_Customization_FAQ good exsample of it there if you go down to items
14:21.26Roartindonand sets everyone to 0... but I'll get around to that sometime later.
14:21.34RoartindonThe addon is only a day old as it is
14:21.41Matrix110yes Borked|Raider i know but you need to have the data from the items you coudl link on the server so you can get the info afaik?
14:21.42StephmwRoartindon: yeah, I can understand logically why it does that... no combat == 0 threat :)
14:22.02Sole__It is now 2:22am and time for sleep!
14:22.08Stephmwsee ya Sole__
14:22.08RoartindonStephmw: There's every intention to store threat at end of fight, and accumulate it too
14:22.16RoartindonStephmw: Just doesn't work at the moment :)
14:22.22StephmwRoartindon: that's ok
14:22.31StephmwRoartindon: as a mage, I'm very conscious of how much I generate
14:22.39[dRaCo]does anybody know when nymbia will be here?
14:22.40Sole__looking forward to seeing what you come up with in Assessment
14:22.48Sole__no, but I want nymbia also
14:22.57Borked|RaiderMatrix110, well i dont know whats posible, atm i just check up agains the items i got in my local cache, but problem beeing that i disc some times, and there are items i actuly can link wich it says i cat because i use my local cache. So i am not sure
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14:23.32GagorianAre AceLocale-2.2 tables GCd if the locale isn't needed for current session?
14:23.53Matrix110oh well this says it quite clearly: "If the item you request is not in the server's cache then you will be disconnected." means you can get Items that are linkable on the server but if you want a "safe" way you better dont do it as you get DCed if the item does not exist:P
14:23.53RoartindonIt works as is already, but has limited options.. it does have the tag system working, and ability to define new sets of data, etc... BUT no docs atm.. and potential for breaking changes is relatively high :)
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14:24.22FlexomStephmw: as long as you don't draw too much aggro there can never be too much dps:p death is inevitable, we are expendable:p
14:24.39StephmwFlexom: I'm trying hard to last as long as a warlock :)
14:24.51StephmwFlexom: *with* high dps
14:24.59cryogenwhy do you get disconnected for linking unseen items anyway o_O
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14:25.15Stephmwcryogen: to stop people spoofing items
14:25.48FlexomStephmw: In my raids the shadowpriests are the ones that dies the most, but that might be because we are 2 arcane frost mages ^^
14:25.50cryogenbut surely the database knows about them, even if they're unseen?
14:25.58Matrix110of course
14:26.03Fisker-why not just refuse to send the message instead of disconnecting people?
14:26.16Matrix110Fisker then they could just fish 10000times faster:P
14:26.46cryogenwhat do you mean by spoofing items anyway?
14:27.08Matrix110Getting ALL items available easily
14:27.10GagorianCreating fake items
14:27.25GagorianBefore you could just name items whatever you wanted
14:27.29cryogenMatrix110: ah! now that sounds like a pretty good reason :)
14:27.29Fisker-and so what Matrix110?
14:27.33Fisker-You can do that now anyways
14:27.35Fisker-more efficiently
14:27.38Matrix110nope
14:27.42Matrix110armory doesnt have all items
14:27.53Fisker-neither does the server
14:28.00StephmwFlexom: I'm a firemage, but I pack quite a lot of stamina when buffed
14:28.06Fisker-but the armory has the items that all the servers have combined
14:28.09Matrix110in their Database i guess they got them
14:28.25FlexomStephmw: btw; threatmeters makes me too careful, more fun to balance on the edge:p
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14:28.47Matrix110well but you cant retrieve items from Archimonde/essence of Souls whatever without having a GM with them/bugged shit or someone exploiting
14:28.48StephmwFlexom: I use it mostly after respeccing, otherwise I just go by 'feel'
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14:29.59StephmwFlexom: my profile, http://tinyurl.com/2dagfa
14:30.05FlexomStephmw: ye, fire is quite different that way, aggro=death usually:p
14:31.18CIA-2203roartindon * r37959 10Assessment/Extras/AssessmentWaterfall.lua: Assessment: Fixed typo in Waterfall
14:31.56art3misgood morning whroes
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14:32.11FlexomStephmw: mine atm:) http://tinyurl.com/3y29yz
14:32.22art3misomg stephen a/s/l?
14:32.31art3miserr steph
14:32.38Stephmwah? eh? :)
14:32.41art3misfingured it went well with the profile thing
14:32.44art3misfigured
14:32.56art3mischrist i need more caffiend and new fingers appearantly
14:33.31art3misim in such a good mood
14:33.39art3misi landed the bestest contract evah today
14:33.50Flexomart3mis: grats^^
14:34.03art3miswell yesterday really but yeah thanks
14:34.23OminousThreat-1.0 dosent transmit to ktm does it?
14:34.27[Ammo]not yet
14:34.34art3miswhy not ammo
14:34.41Ominouswill it?
14:34.41art3misget off yer fat ass and give me that for free!
14:34.42[Ammo]because you didn't code it it yet
14:34.51art3misi demand you work as my slave!
14:34.51[Ammo]now get back in your hole
14:35.12art3misi think your sister went to work so i cant ;)
14:35.14StephmwFlexom: nice +dmg
14:35.24StephmwFlexom: but then you're in purples :)
14:35.52FlexomStephmw: grinded most of them though:p still waiting for more mage drops in Kara....
14:36.04art3missilvermoon?!?!
14:36.22art3misi guess that means yer a rat bastard ;)
14:36.48StephmwFlexom: for shame, 2 blues?
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14:37.34art3misspeaking of
14:37.43art3mishi michael
14:37.44Chompersharhar
14:38.12art3miswhenever i address ckk just assume its in a british accent like KITT ;)
14:38.34art3misand we should all just call him michael from now on ;P
14:38.41StephmwFlexom: is the extra +100dmg worth the grind and the 2khp/0.5kma less?
14:39.30[Ammo]if you want to play glass cannon it is :)
14:40.01Stephmwbah, I'm proud of being the last up in a wipe, and still be 2nd on the threat list :)
14:40.13Chompershttp://www.teamknightrider.com/music/krtheme.wav
14:40.18art3mishaha chomp
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14:40.37art3misleech it and rename to ckknight_rider.wav
14:40.48deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104601951&sid=1 <-- darn :(
14:41.55ChompersA lone crimefighter battles the forces of evil with the help of an indestructible and artificially intelligent supercar.
14:42.06Chomperscalled Pitbull
14:43.28Fisker-i lol'd deltron
14:43.39Fisker-that has only been in there for what, several fucking months now?
14:43.57Fisker-I can see that being a "hotfix"
14:44.16Fisker-they basically halted the presses and put all disposable manpower on a fix until it was fixed
14:44.18Fisker-oh wait
14:44.56ZurkOkay, little problem here. I like to use a custom font of ym own with Clearfont, but everytime I run WAU it removes the font of mine, reinstalled it everytime is mighty annoying. Any solutions?
14:45.01Zurkmy own*
14:45.17Zurkreintalling it*
14:45.18ZurkChrist.
14:45.37CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r37960 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (4 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_TrainerFu: Added deDE localization. Thanks to Ragnar Frost. (I hope i didn't miss anything.)
14:50.00FlexomStephmw: definitely^^ HP=no use, if you are being hit in raids you are usually dead anyways:p I am usually top3 in raids:)
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14:50.30StephmwFlexom: ahhh, figures. I still haven't visited Kara yet
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14:52.16CIA-2203arith * r37961 10GlobalStrings/GlobalStrings-2.1.0-zhTW.lua:
14:52.16CIA-22GlobalStrings :
14:52.16CIA-22<PROTECTED>
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14:58.09Mikkomg? globalstrings from all around teh world? o.O
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14:59.02Megalonso it's like
14:59.07MegalonGlobalGlobalStrings?!
14:59.19Megalonzomg!
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15:00.47MikkLocalizedGlobals?
15:08.19wobinWhat's the best hunter spec for levelling 60-70?
15:08.35deltronBM I would assume
15:08.46MikkBM is incidentally also the best spec for raid dps >.<
15:08.51cladhaireyep
15:08.53MikkFucked up, I know
15:09.08[Ammo]it also makes you quite useless in the crowd control department
15:09.15fixtzesurvival > bm because survival benefits the whole raid
15:09.15fixtzeafaik
15:09.21cryogenhey you wanted your pets to be useful, didnt you? :p
15:09.32Mikkerr, how is survival useful in raids? o.O
15:09.36Mikksurvival kicks ass in heroics, yeah, but ... erm
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15:10.00CIA-2203ammo * r37962 10Violation/ (Violation.lua textures/next.tga textures/prev.tga): Violation: add < and > icons to the header of the bar view to cycle through the available modules.
15:10.02fixtzemaybe i remember the wrong spec, just heard our hunters talk about one of them, and the AP buffs etc it gives
15:10.35MikkWell.. our BM hunter wearing only rogue leather outputs 1050 dps sustained... and that's mostly in pre-raid gear :S
15:10.44wobin><
15:11.05CIA-2203arith * r37963 10GlobalStrings/GlobalStrings-2.1.0-znUS.lua:
15:11.05CIA-22GlobalStrings :
15:11.05CIA-22<PROTECTED>
15:11.26MikkHe's also adamant about being put in with shadowpriests :>
15:11.42Josh_Borkelol
15:11.56Mikknice one arith.. "znUS"?
15:12.19cladhairelol
15:12.32wobinAnimal Handler
15:12.36cladhairethey should probably ge GlobalStrings/2.1.0/enUS.lua
15:12.38wobinWhat an odd skill
15:12.52cladhaireso you dont have 30,000 files with GlobalStrings-XX.XX.XX.locale.lua
15:12.55vodrinthats the pet hit % ?
15:13.10Mikkcladhaire: blah, we can delete old crud
15:13.24cladhairethen why include the version number? =)
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15:13.31Mikkvery old crud :>
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15:15.17[Ammo]why put it on the svn anyway when there is wdn.wowinterface.com
15:15.36cladhairethat's just one locale at the moment
15:15.40[Ammo]ah
15:15.44cladhairebut bela is working on it
15:15.49[Ammo]ok then valid
15:16.10cladhairethanks for your approval =)
15:16.34[Ammo]:)
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15:17.17[Ammo]my photoshop skill suck hard, luckily an X is made up from > and < so making those 2 icons for violation wasn't that hard :p
15:18.02wobinhehe
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15:22.16CIA-2203mikk * r37965 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins_ItemOps.lua): Baggins: Added nifty "Split n" command to alt+rightclick menu. Should be faster to use than standard shift+click split, especially if you need to split lots of things to the same amount.
15:22.24wobinhm, have we an aspect addon for hunters?
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15:22.44Mikkammo you're supposed to bug me for those damnit =P
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15:26.00CIA-2203mikk * r37966 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: Stop sliders from looking screwy when sliderMax==sliderMin
15:26.47CIA-2203gagorian * r37967 10DrDamage/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
15:26.47CIA-22DrDamage:
15:26.47CIA-22- Removed boolean nonsense for actionbar updating, now stores the detected actionbar functions and uses it in further updates
15:26.47CIA-22- Class modules are no longer loaded for other classes
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15:29.23Chompersbah, sole isnt here
15:30.08chutwigbuffalo2 makes my buffs act weird :(
15:30.58Gagorianweird, how?
15:33.20chutwigsometimes it misorders them and the tooltips/durations don't correspond to the right buff
15:33.20chutwigi couldn't find any pattern to it and it wasn't generating errors
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15:40.41[Ammo]Mikk: feel free to check the close, prev and next icons in violation, and the result in game, and make better ones :)
15:40.52Xelotari'm having trouble with prat. it doesn't show any error messages, but item links turn out weird. it's like the [ has the itemcolor, the name is grey and the ] has the color of the channel it has been posted. i tried to reinstall all my stuff with WAU, but it wont fix the problem
15:40.54[Ammo]Mikk: they have to be able to be alpha blended for coloring like they are now
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15:43.05zoktarany addons have a "swing" timer ? =)
15:43.31cotangentquartz just added one I think
15:43.43Xelotarand the weirdest thing is..... some linked items show up totally normal Oo *just realized*
15:44.06zoktarnice
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15:44.47ag`vhaarr
15:44.51[Ammo]ag`:
15:44.54ag`piong :)
15:45.08[Ammo]ag` what are the chances of having partytargets default in agUF
15:45.18shieldbis threat/omen displaying info from KTM users by default now? Had a lot of folks on my list last night that I didn't think were running threat, but the changelog makes it sound like I should have had to turn that on manually
15:45.20Antiarc|WorkMorning folks.
15:45.22[Ammo]instead of running my own createunit abomination
15:45.36CIA-2203bom * r37968 10TwiCo/ (Core.lua locales/enUS.lua): TwiCo: sort and close button
15:45.40[Ammo]shieldb: yeah, thraet-1.0 reads KTM data
15:45.47[Ammo]and triggers it for display
15:45.59ag`[Ammo]: Hopefully I will create a thingy soon that will allow you create frames from the menu, and have it saved between sessions
15:46.04[Ammo]hmm
15:46.08Mikk[Ammo]: certainly.. i need to get violation anyway :>
15:46.09[Ammo]but as a fast solution
15:46.19[Ammo]like in your next commit!
15:46.31[Ammo]otherwise I might sneak it in :p
15:46.43cotangentI wasn't running it last night so if you saw me it was from ktm
15:46.45Fisker-oh hi
15:46.49Fisker-i just upgraded your ram
15:47.09Mikkbofh style by removing other stuff? o.O
15:47.11[Ammo]Mikk: coolio
15:47.15ag`[Ammo]: I guess you could
15:47.29[Ammo]ag`: I'm just asking for permission really :)
15:47.49[Ammo]I got used to them from using Pitbull, but pitbull failed in its goals
15:48.08ag`you can add them, sure
15:48.13Antiarc|Workshieldb: Yes, it's on already. YOu don't have to do anything more as a user
15:48.18Antiarc|WorkIt's just an additional check for GUI writers
15:48.32ag`when I come around to committing the stuff I have here, they will be off / not created by default
15:48.41ag`but creatable through the menu
15:49.11ag`I'll put it up soon, but I'm at just a bit distracted at the moment
15:49.20[Ammo]k
15:49.22ag`played 9 hours of Super Strikers Charged today
15:49.29sbu[Ammo]: which goal? :p
15:49.34[Ammo]sbu: performance
15:49.53Mikkwhich only goes to prove that elegance does not == performance
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15:50.35[Ammo]agUF = 1/3rd of the mem usage of pitbull and 1/5th of the cpu or so
15:50.49[Ammo]doesn't justify the sparkles on pitbull
15:50.58[Ammo]since I ran it in agUF looks anyway
15:51.26ag`I have 300mb used by aguf in my battleground :)
15:51.35[Ammo]300 MB?
15:51.38ag`and that's what I wanted to talk to vhaarr about
15:51.43[Ammo]yikes
15:51.48ag`vhaarr says it's a blizzard bug
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15:51.55Josh_Borkehde would
15:51.55[Ammo]it is
15:51.57ag`with the raid frame headers
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15:52.06[Ammo]it was on the forums as well
15:52.08[Ammo]the wow forums
15:52.11[Ammo]post by blue or smoething
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15:52.17ag`link me
15:52.17[Ammo]can't point you to a url though
15:52.20ag`argh
15:52.20Chomperssure its a blizzard bug ag ? :P
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15:52.27ag`so says the rumors
15:52.36ag`I've been unable to find the cause
15:52.51[Ammo]the url came across these forums
15:52.56Tornhoofyah
15:53.01ag`and it doesn't help that it only happens sometimes, makes debugging suck
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15:53.01[Ammo]this channel I mean
15:53.01Tornhoofsomeone linked it yesterday
15:53.04Tornhoofaguf with like 230mb
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15:53.18[Ammo]no, I mean the url to the post by blizz
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15:53.46[Ammo]then again, I dno't use the raid frames, so it won't affect me
15:53.49[Ammo]:)
15:54.02ag`I bet it affects the party header too [Ammo]
15:54.09[Ammo]if I create a subgroup partytarget will that work ag`
15:54.13[Ammo]smilar to partypet
15:54.23ag`[Ammo]: I do not know actually
15:54.29Punkie`ag`: Once or twice when zoning into a BG I get about 30 seconds of screenfreeze, I guess this is probably the same cause?
15:55.06ag`Punkie`: yeah, that's the issue we're talking about
15:55.06nevcairielthere was a post that all secure templates get tainted when they are initialized too early
15:55.07jmePunkie`: that happens to me sometimes too
15:55.07nevcairielnot sure if thats anything todo with it
15:55.07Xelotarhmmmmm guess nobody can help me here with that prat problem
15:55.11ag`nevcairiel: is :OnEnable too early?
15:55.15nevcairielag`: no
15:55.21nevcairielOnInit is too early
15:55.22[Ammo]Xelotar: post on the forums in the Prat thread, sylvnaar might be able to help
15:55.24ag`nevcairiel: then that's not the problem :)
15:55.31nevcairieljust saying :)
15:55.37Xelotarok
15:55.45ag`I don't do the frames in OnInit
15:56.05ag`srsly
15:56.11ag`I need wasd for my console games
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16:00.34Antiarc|WorkNetsplits FTW?
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16:00.34[Ammo]ssssschhhplit
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16:02.39Fisker-:o?
16:02.39TecnoBrathttp://ctprofiles.net/index.ct
16:02.39[Ammo]outclassed by the armory
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16:02.40CIA-2203jerry * r37969 10GlobalStrings/GlobalStrings-2.1.0-frFR.lua: GlobalStrings: _ Added frFR
16:02.40TecnoBratoverrun by bugs
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16:04.50Fisker-btw why was cide here a couple of days ago
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16:04.50sedatedChipmunk"We've spent the past 6 months fighting bug after bug after bug only to have even more bugs arise, without ever catching up."
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16:04.51Elkanowanted to compare performance between aced and not aced
16:04.51TecnoBratElkano, being civil about it?
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16:04.52Tornhoofi thought it was flame elkanos coding style day ;)
16:04.52hyperChipmunkcide visits us every once in awhile
16:04.52Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: I fixed pet stuff last night, as well as misdirection
16:04.52Antiarc|WorkGive it a shot when you get a chance.
16:04.52hyperChipmunkO_o
16:04.58TecnoBratjust an observation, but I've only ever seen a bunch of drama when he comes in tho :(
16:04.58sbumorning Antiarc|Work ;)
16:04.58hyperChipmunkwhat was wrong with m/d!?!
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16:04.58Tornhoofmisdirection still doesn't work anyway?
16:04.58[Ammo]Antiarc|Work: pet didn't show up on Omen just now
16:04.58Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: Several things, but I got 'em fixed
16:04.58[Ammo]Antiarc|Work: on my levle 10 hunter :p
16:04.59Antiarc|WorkTornhoof: Misdirection was working for me last night.
16:04.59Tornhoofi see
16:05.24Tornhoofi shall blame the hunters for everything again :)
16:05.24hyperChipmunki don't remember any drama with cide here; decent guy, lousy mods =P
16:05.24Antiarc|Work[Ammo]: :(
16:05.24shieldbdoes threat send threat data that KTM users will see? Can I finally get rid of it? :P
16:05.25[Ammo]Antiarc|Work: omen only showed my own threat
16:05.28CIA-2203rabbit * r37970 10oRA2/Leader/Loot.lua: oRA2: Leader/Loot: Fix koKR.
16:05.29fixtzeAny chataddon or simular that will let you change between the chatframes via hotkey or mouseover the chat-tabs ? (So you can easily just tab to for example global chans or combatlog when guildchat is dead/unimportant)
16:05.32Antiarc|Workshieldb: No, it doesn't send to KTM yet.
16:05.36ElkanoTornhoof: talking about coding style without having had a look at it is usually a bad idea ;)
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16:05.38[Ammo]on Blammo I sent BamBam my boar to a mob
16:05.46[Ammo]and then shot it like 3 seconds later
16:05.48hyperChipmunkElkano: your style sux
16:05.49[Ammo]only my threat showed
16:05.59[Ammo]violation showed bambam doing damage
16:06.00Antiarc|Work[Ammo]: Hrm. Okay. Did it work after an /rl ?
16:06.04Antiarc|WorkThat seems to be the issue
16:06.04[Ammo]nope
16:06.06[Ammo]never worked
16:06.09Elkanobtw: someone mind pointing this person http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=106579103&sid=1 to that thread http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5467.0
16:06.10Antiarc|WorkOk, bizarre.
16:06.15[Ammo]I can try again
16:06.16Antiarc|WorkI'll check it out tonight then.
16:06.19[Ammo]but it never showed threat
16:06.20ElkanohC, well, I learned from you ;)
16:06.29[Ammo]haha
16:06.30hyperChipmunkyea, that's your fault
16:06.31[Ammo]hC pwned
16:06.40hyperChipmunkyou should know bette
16:06.41hyperChipmunkr
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16:07.33TecnoBratElkano, you want him to post feedback there?
16:07.36TecnoBrator get the new version?
16:07.44sbuAntiarc|Work: cross locale still not working :/
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16:08.01Arzach-DB-EUAntiarc ?
16:08.10sbudifferent hexsums
16:08.36ag`[Ammo]: I can't find the post you're talking about on bluetracker:(
16:08.50Antiarc|Worksbu: Hm. Can you provide examples when you get a chance?
16:09.05sbuAntiarc|Work: screenshot with /script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpThreatTable()?
16:09.09sbu+ mobname?
16:09.09hyperChipmunkAntiarc|Work: seems fine
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16:09.21Antiarc|Worksbu: That won't do it, I think
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16:09.26Antiarc|WorkI'd need the translation tables
16:09.27Antiarc|WorkOne sec.
16:09.57ElkanoTecnoBrat, from his post it seems he doesn't know about the beta version so simply point out that there is a recode available in that other thread supporting the eature he wants
16:10.45sbuAntiarc|Work: http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/9125/wowscrnshot060107180701ou6.jpg
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16:10.51TecnoBratElkano, done
16:10.52Antiarc|Worksbu: Try /dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").mobNameTranslations
16:11.03TecnoBratElkano, I didnt know the new version did .. hah
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16:12.22Punkie`sbu: 56.5MiB? /shame
16:12.25Fisker-btw Antiarc|Work you probably already know(probably even fixed it) but i can only get KLHTM targets up on global threat
16:12.45ElkanoTecnoBrat, thx :)
16:12.46Fisker-Well i get there myself from mana gains but healing and damage doesn't count
16:13.04vhaarrag`: damn, give new agUF commit soon with pie timers
16:13.21TecnoBratpie timers?
16:13.23Fisker-nah Punkie` even more /shame that he's german
16:13.25Fisker-oh snap!
16:13.31Punkie`he is?
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16:13.35Punkie`lets ignore him
16:13.37Antiarc|WorkFisker-: Can you elaborate?
16:13.40Fisker-yeah
16:13.55Fisker-well i don't know if it has to do with me using Violation
16:14.00sbuPunkie`: shh :p
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16:14.15Fisker-But i have to use Global Threat to see KLHTM users, and Target Threat to view Threat-1.0 users
16:14.24sbuAntiarc|Work: in combat?
16:14.26Fisker-the only thing i gain Global Threat from is mana gains
16:14.30sbuor should word ooc as well?
16:14.46sbuOOC it is {}
16:14.51Punkie`Fisker-: According to Ammo violation should not differ from Omen
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16:14.58Antiarc|WorkOOC should work as well. Those tables shouldn't get cleared.
16:15.15Antiarc|WorkFisker-: That's intentional, actually. KTM users can only show up for global threat
16:15.19Antiarc|WorkKTM doesn't send target data
16:15.20CIA-2203jerry * r37971 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: fix new locale.
16:15.24Antiarc|WorkSo they just get added to global threat lists.
16:15.30sbuAntiarc|Work: {} for me
16:15.50Fisker-yeah i figured that, but that kinda defeats the purpose imo :P
16:16.09Antiarc|Worksbu: /dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").partyMemberLocales
16:16.12Fisker-and healing technically should be global threat as well
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16:16.22Antiarc|WorkFisker-: It is, I believe.
16:16.23Gagoriansbu: German DrDamage user? Do you want to translate into german? :)
16:16.26Antiarc|WorkOr should be.
16:16.30Antiarc|WorkIf it isn't, I need to fix it.
16:16.35sbuGagorian: *sigh* :p
16:16.53sbuAntiarc|Work: Lembo = "deDE"
16:16.53Fisker-i had the issue about an hour ago
16:17.00Antiarc|Worksbu: What locale are you using?
16:17.10sbuenUS
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16:17.16Antiarc|WorkOk. That's a start anyway.
16:18.45Antiarc|WorkOh, I just thought of how to fix it
16:18.54Antiarc|WorkI'll just hack up my copy on my laptop to report that it's deDE
16:18.59Antiarc|WorkAnd mutate all target names sent back
16:19.02Antiarc|WorkThat should lemme test it.
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16:21.25hyperChipmunkAntiarc|Work: n/m, doesn't work =p
16:21.32Antiarc|Work:(
16:21.37Antiarc|WorkWell damn.
16:22.07hyperChipmunki dismounted into combat, and the pet threat never appeared
16:23.33hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/omenpet.jpg
16:25.13Matrix110tell german ppl to use enGB and problem solved deDE sucks anyway... the translations are fucked totally
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16:25.55Cryectby pie timers I think he means overlayed with the new cooldown object
16:25.59Cryectdamn
16:26.01CryectI was scrolled up >_>
16:26.22CryectI hate when I aciddently hit page up once
16:26.30sbuMatrix110: dont tell me... :p
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16:29.17Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: Bah! I even tested that explicitly last night!
16:29.21Antiarc|WorkMore work to do then.
16:30.47wobinhey Hyper, what are the hunter addons that you like?
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16:31.28hyperChipmunki don't use any, afaik
16:31.39hyperChipmunkthey've all been replaced by macro
16:31.45GagorianAmmoFu!
16:31.49GagorianOr whatever that is
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16:31.57hyperChipmunkwhich is to say, i feed pet with macro rather than a few lines in my scratch addon
16:32.00hyperChipmunkoh, yes
16:32.02hyperChipmunkammofu
16:32.27hyperChipmunkOmen-2.1r37914\Omen.lua:95: Bad argument #2 to `UnitIsUnit'. expected "string", got "nil" (nil)
16:32.45Antiarc|WorkOoh, good.
16:32.49Antiarc|WorkThat's where it was coming from.
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16:33.28hyperChipmunkAntiarc|Work: interesting; if i break out of combat and re-engage, it picks up the pet
16:33.41hyperChipmunkat what appears to be the correct amount of threat
16:33.55Antiarc|WorkHrm.
16:34.08hyperChipmunkor maybe he growled right as i re-engaged
16:34.41hyperChipmunkyea, i think that may have been it
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16:35.59KinkxoRA2_Leader\Loot.lua:139: AceLocale(oRALLoot): Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice.
16:36.12hyperChipmunkpff
16:36.23hyperChipmunkeveryone knows that enUS is twice as good
16:36.43nadashehe
16:36.47nadasKinkx: that's fixed btw
16:36.54nadasjust update
16:37.18Killmore7Antiarc|Work: yo !
16:37.42Antiarc|WorkKillmore: Howdy.
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16:45.49hyperChipmunksup k
16:46.32sbuhyperChipmunk: hmm i know this unitisunit error - got it yesterday - but wasnt able to reproduce it
16:49.19Antiarc|WorkIt'll happen when ThreatLib sends a nil threat target, which -shouldn't- be happening
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16:51.35Mikkwhere was that bash-for-wow site again?
16:52.38evlAny warlock using Chonometer? I get an error when casting Howl of Terror, might be the instacast talenet
16:53.04alextnay using dotimer here
16:53.34ulicevl: what's the error?
16:54.45ulicand what version do you have?
16:55.47evlulic: latest and Interface\AddOns\Chronomter\Core\Chronometer.lua:411: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'rank' (a string value)
16:55.52shieldbhaving warlocks be able to unbanish stuff is so handy now
16:56.01Mikkwhut?
16:56.13shieldbcast banish on a banished target, it removes it
16:56.13Mikkwhen'd that happen? o.O
16:56.16shieldbthis patch
16:56.20Mikkwhoa
16:56.44Kalman|Er, wow.
16:56.48evlhuge fix :D
16:56.51Killmorewhat?
16:57.00Kalman|That's a hell of a patch note omission.
16:57.02Killmorebug or intented ?
16:57.21[dRaCo]feature
16:57.56Killmorehmm
16:59.11ulicevl: can you verify what line 773 says in the Core\Chronometer.lua for me?
16:59.27uliccheck that 771
16:59.28evlulic: self.active[spell] = {t=timer, n=spell, u=target, r=r}
17:00.38ulic771 should end "target,r)"?
17:00.50Sarozwho fucked up tooltip borders now?
17:00.55Sarozall my tooltips have purple borders
17:00.56evlulic: it does
17:01.10shieldbSaroz, that's because you're wearing epix
17:01.14Sarozno
17:01.15ravagernlis it possible to horizontally flip a texture?
17:01.19Saroznormal tooltips are still purple
17:01.30jmesomeone else was having that problem yesterday
17:01.43Antiarc|Workravagernl: I doubt it, but you could try using texcoords from 1..0
17:01.47Antiarc|WorkRather than 0..1
17:02.06ulicevl: can you change it to "target,rank)"? and reload and test it?
17:02.07Tornhoofsomeone should write some lib for texture transformations
17:02.27Tornhoofi hate adding all that matrix stuff myself
17:02.28Tornhoofespecially with centered translation
17:03.11evlulic: will do
17:03.32ravagernlantiarc|work: or I will just flip it in photoshop :P
17:03.40fixtzeis voicefu a demanding addon?
17:04.14Kalman|shieldb: Removes or refreshes?
17:04.18shieldbremoves
17:04.19SarozWHY IS VIOLATION STILL BROKEN
17:04.22Saroz*bangs head on table*
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17:04.30RealShirikSaroz: because someone hasn't fixed it
17:04.32shieldbbanish is like an on/off switch CC now
17:05.08ravagernlomg, all of my tooltips borders are green :S
17:05.11Sarozyea
17:05.14ravagernlwhat's causing it
17:05.17Sarozxloot?
17:05.34ravagernlyeah have that installed
17:06.16SarozAnyone getting Cannot find lib instance of Parser-3.0 with violation enabled?
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17:10.47hyperChipmunkis skinner i think, not xloot
17:11.20Sarozk
17:11.24evlulic: worked :)
17:11.26alextwell i have never had xloot making weird colors
17:11.29evlulic: err, sorry
17:11.39hyperChipmunki don't even use xloot and i got the green borders
17:11.42evlulic: apparently my warlock pal had an old version
17:12.13hyperChipmunkevl: the changes you made to hourglass work great; you can uncomment that one line
17:12.20evlI don't want to :P
17:12.32evlOverhead!
17:12.33hyperChipmunkwell screw you
17:12.42ulicevl: so, now you confused me, what's working?
17:12.50hyperChipmunki uncommented it anyways!
17:13.01evlulic: my friend hadn't updated even though he swore, I punched him in the face, ignore all I've said
17:13.07Punkie`Saroz: why don't you go download parser-3.0?
17:13.11[Ammo]Saroz: violation works fine here, you just type in caps because you suck
17:13.13ulicevl: ok, good :)
17:13.26Sarozshould I have to?
17:13.26Sarozexternals, no?
17:13.33Punkie`just download it
17:13.42[Ammo]and saying it's broken doesn't help me
17:13.45[Ammo]say what is broken
17:13.47[Ammo]then come back
17:13.52Leialynckknight: since todays or yesterdays commits to PitBull debuffs no longer get a border even if border is enabled
17:13.55Punkie`[Ammo]: blame ckknight
17:13.55[Ammo]preferably with bugsack messages
17:14.07Punkie`he's added a compatibility layer between 1.0 and 3.0
17:14.10SarozI already said the rror
17:14.14Punkie`probably some cross references
17:14.21Punkie`and saroz, as a developer
17:14.38Punkie`i cant believe you are stupid enough not to have downloaded parser-3.0
17:14.59Sarozman
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17:15.05Saroz3 days ago, it worked with parser-1.1
17:15.13Sarozwhich is an external
17:15.15winkillercan DrDamage differentiate between gear sets?
17:15.21[Ammo]it works with 1.1
17:15.25[Ammo]at least here
17:15.54wobinhm
17:15.57Sarozit complains about 3.0 here :|
17:16.02wobinMy pet no longer shows up with Omen
17:16.02Punkie`so go download it
17:16.14[Ammo]probably rhreat-1.0 that needs it
17:16.19Punkie`[Ammo] more than likely has parser-3.0 downloaded anyway
17:16.27[Ammo]shrug
17:16.27Sarozthreat was suppose to have a compat layer for 1.1
17:16.39Punkie`yeah there you go
17:16.43Sarozso Violation didn't need 1.1 AND 3.0
17:16.47Antiarc|WorkIt's supposed to but I haven't tested it lately.
17:16.49Punkie`in threat-1.0 toc
17:16.50Punkie`Libs\Parser-3.0\Parser-3.0.lua
17:17.04[Ammo]using parser.-3.0 is just one of ckknight's flavors of the day
17:17.05[Ammo]shrug
17:17.07SarozI know Punkie`, but as I said, vhaarr made a compat layer for it
17:17.11harldephindamn. what's the default key for switching between running and walking again ? - a friend's got some problems and is asking me that question, but since i've bound my own keys to everything, i don't know anymore
17:17.16Antiarc|WorkI really like 3.0's API a lot better.
17:17.21Antiarc|Workharldephin: / on the numpad
17:17.28evlharldephin: reset keys and cancel
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17:17.40harldephinAntiarc: thanks.
17:17.40Chompershrm, i'm trying to get a few [Unstable Flask of the Soldier], when does the BEM event start?
17:17.52Chompersand is the first phase solo'able
17:17.53Punkie`Saroz: the compat layer is between parser-1.0 and parser-3.0
17:17.55Arrowmasterevery 2 hours
17:17.55[Ammo]anyway saroz same applies: alpha software, if you can't get it working because of missing libs, install the libs
17:17.57harldephini already thought so and i told him, but it doesn't seem to work. might have a damaged keyboard then
17:18.07[Ammo]if you have a real bug, come back
17:18.11Antiarc|Workwobin: I thought I fixed pet threat last night. If you can provide any other info, please lemme know.
17:18.11SarozPunkie`, same deal
17:18.13Jaxonharldephin: I'm pretty sure it is Num lock?
17:18.14[Ammo]but don't type in caps how it sucks
17:18.41Punkie`Saroz: how the hell is that the same deal?
17:18.51Punkie`did you forget to equip your brain this morning?
17:18.55harldephinJaxon: yea. i told him it was either numlock or "the key next to it", so it's gotta work either way
17:19.01SarozPunkie`, tone it down, thx
17:19.13Punkie`Saroz: equip your brain
17:19.38Sarozmy point is, vhaarr made a compat layer for threat to be able to work with Parser-1.0, so Violation didn't need two versions running side by side
17:20.04Sarozand my other point is, it's been broken for a few days now
17:20.06Punkie`well, <Saroz> Anyone getting Cannot find lib instance of Parser-3.0 with violation enabled?
17:20.08Sarozbut I guess I will debug it myself
17:20.12ag`vhaarr dude, ping
17:20.14Punkie`is a clear indication of what you need to do
17:20.18SarozPunkie`, no
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17:20.20vhaarrag`: pong
17:20.21Sarozit's not
17:20.23evlSometimes UnitClass returns nil, whis is that and how can I avoid ti?
17:20.32SarozIt's suppose to work with 1.1, not 3.0
17:20.57Punkie`Theat-1.0 uses 3.0
17:20.57Sarozunless something changed, at which case 3.0 needs to be an embed
17:21.03ag`vhaarr: that thing where raid headers lock up the game and take 50+ mb memory, is it a blizzard bug? If yes, how do you know it is?
17:21.07Arrowmastercan you say 'BETA SOFTWARE"
17:21.16Antiarc|WorkSaroz: It's not working with 1.1 right now. Install 3.0 or submit a fix. :)
17:21.21vhaarrag`: I thought there was a blue post on it?
17:21.27ag`vhaarr: I can't find it
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17:21.33vhaarrag`: I don't really care either
17:21.49SarozPunkie`: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua, see "if useParser30 then" ?
17:22.03vhaarrag`: I've seen it happen with agUF, PitBull and PerlUF, so it's most likely a blizzard bug.
17:22.06Sarozit's suppose to work with both, for gods sake
17:22.23Sarozindeed ag`, nasty fucking bug
17:22.33ag`vhaarr: okay, I hope so. Because I've been unable to find the cause
17:22.45ag`Saroz: It happens for you too?:)
17:22.48Sarozyes
17:22.55ag`"good" :P
17:23.04Sarozwell I use aguf, so it might be that!!! :p
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17:23.10ag`-_-
17:23.23Mikk[Ammoo]: I'm going to do violence to the violation icon, kk?
17:23.23Sarozbut tbh, it's a blizz secure raid frames bug
17:23.31Punkie`Saroz: then add parser as an optdep so it loads before threat-1.0?
17:23.37winkillerKaelten: are you there? :) Did you ever think about making OneView also see alts' equipped items or did I miss it?
17:23.47Gagorianwinkiller: What do you mean by differentiate by gear sets?
17:23.48evlMikk: transpacency?
17:23.52ag`Saroz: how'd y'know? :)
17:23.52[Ammo]Mikk: gogogo
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17:23.57Kaeltenhrm?
17:23.58Punkie`Saroz: even still, just download Parser-3.0 and it will be fine?
17:24.04winkillerGagorian: I'm a druid, I can heal in feral gear and in healing gear
17:24.04Kaeltenits ont he todo list
17:24.07[Ammo]do the X < > etc :p
17:24.09Sarozag`, only possible answer, there is no pattern to any single mod used
17:24.12winkillerKaelten: ok, thanks :9
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17:24.43Mikk[Ammo]: doubt i can do much about X < > tbh.. maybe slight tweaks but ... having to work with graytones and transparency is a bit limiting =)
17:24.47Gagorianwinkiller: Well, if you change your gear.. the values change obviously.
17:24.52Sarozag`, some use no aguf, pitbull or srf mod, they use xperl, and have the problem
17:24.58[Ammo]Mikk: hehe
17:25.14winkillerGagorian: yeah, the question was if it measures and adjusts while healing or calculates by equipping
17:26.00ag`Saroz: Okay. Anyway, if you by accident come around the blue post, I'd like to read it
17:26.04Sarozag`, that said, SecureGroupHeader_Update is fired a fuckload of times, same for OnAttributeChange -- but I really believe it's a blizz bug, perhaps even in the core
17:26.06Sarozag`, me too :p
17:26.32ag`Saroz: Yes, it's the unit name changed event
17:26.37ag`it fires a fuckload of times
17:27.02ag`but if you keep the frames hidden, wouldn't that prevent stuff from happening?
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17:27.24ag`maybe we could hide frames on leaving world
17:27.30Sarozwell, the lockup bug only happens on login?
17:27.37Sarozand only when loggin in while in a raid
17:27.45Sarozkicking someone from raid and then having them log in, works
17:27.57ag`if it's only on login, could we create raid readers like 5 seconds after?
17:28.07ag`oh
17:28.25ag`could that be a possible solution?
17:28.29nevcairieli put my money on one addon that creates the frames on OnInit
17:28.39nevcairieland taints every secure addon
17:28.55ag`nevcairiel: it happens with aguf as the only thing enabled, and it creates the frames OnEnable
17:29.14nevcairieloh
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17:29.24nevcairieloh well lets hope 2.1.2 hits soon :P
17:29.40ag`well if I added a schedule to create the raid frames
17:29.43ag`would that work?
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17:29.49ag`postpone it 5-10 seconds after login?
17:29.58Antiarc|Workag`: Use a bucket event?
17:30.12Sarozthat would suck ag` :p
17:30.14Antiarc|WorkOr ScheduleEvent
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17:30.29ag`Saroz: who cares about the first 5-10 secs after login
17:30.48ag`the question is, would it work around the problem?
17:30.52Sarozno idea
17:31.05ckknightag`: PitBull does it now
17:31.09CIA-2203mikk * r37972 10Violation/icons/ (blue.tga grey.tga red.tga): Violation: Replace icon with something less paintbrushy. Still mostly just a red V though.
17:31.12ckknightag`: you say it still has the problem
17:31.19ckknightag`: so no, it doesn't work around the problem
17:31.39ag`I don't know if pitbull got the problem
17:31.52ag`you tried adding a schedule?
17:32.04ag`haven't looked at what pitbull does to prevent it
17:32.33nevcairielag`: it would suck if i login during combat, and dont get any frames
17:33.38evlIs there a better, easier way to set the size of a font object?
17:33.38evllocal fontName, _, fontStyle = GameFontHighlight:GetFont(); font:SetFontObject(GameFontHighlight); font:SetFont(fontName, 11, fontStyle)
17:34.16ag`nevcairiel: yeah. Sucks less than getting stuck for 30 seconds?
17:34.19ag`:)
17:34.28nevcairielag`: what do i care, i dont have that issue :)
17:34.41ag`try logging in while in a BG
17:34.42nevcairieland without any frame, i could even be stuck for 30s
17:34.43nevcairielsame deal
17:35.08ag`dinnertime anyway
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17:36.00alexti can say this
17:36.05alextwith both AG_UF and pitbull
17:36.08alexti dont use the raid frames
17:36.15CIA-2203antiarc * r37973 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua):
17:36.15CIA-22Threat-1.0:
17:36.15CIA-22- Pulled a bunch of tables out of the ThreatLib object
17:36.15CIA-22- Added debug method for mob name translations: :DumpTranslationTable(["mobName"])
17:36.16CIA-22- Changed the global threat publish so that it publishes a GLOBAL target and then individual targets. Addresses a bug that caused no threat to show up on targets you hadn't actively damaged.
17:36.16alextand i have logged in / logged out while in a raid, in combat, etc...
17:36.18alextand its all good
17:36.19CIA-22- Added a ThreatLib.GlobalTarget constant for UIs to use. No magic strings.
17:36.21CIA-22- Made a fix to prevent the NPC core from complaining about a missing Parser-3.0. No 1.1 support yet though.
17:37.22CIA-2203antiarc * r37974 10Omen/Omen.lua:
17:37.22CIA-22Omen:
17:37.22CIA-22- Optimized display updates with a bucket event
17:37.22CIA-22- Replaced "GLOBAL" with Threat.GlobalTarget
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17:38.43Chompersfascinating reading the commit info for threat1.0
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17:38.56Chompersespically over the past few days, really taking shape
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17:41.50Sarozag`, worst thing is you can't reproduce the fucking thing
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17:44.37Wogroiplin Baggins, how can I create a category for Tier1 armor?
17:45.02MikkCreate a category called "Tier 1 Armor"
17:45.06Wogroipl\
17:45.08MikkThen alt-rightclick your armor pieces
17:45.18MikkAnd select "Add to category" _> "Tier 1 Armor"
17:45.22WogroiplI can't use a PT set?
17:45.41Mikkdunno, is there one for tiers?
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17:46.42Mikk"GearSet.Tier 1"
17:46.48Wogroiplwell I can find the sets in PT3Browser, but it seems I can't select it in Baggins
17:47.05Mikkget the newest baggins
17:47.11WogroiplI did
17:47.13Mikkthe problem is that there's nothing that has forced the pt3set to load
17:47.25Wogroiplfeshlyn installed
17:47.30Wogroipl-n
17:47.46MikkThen you'll have a menu option called "PT3 LoD Modules"
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17:47.53Mikksigh
17:47.57*** join/#wowace Wogroipl (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl)
17:48.23MikkThen you'll have a menu option called "PT3 LoD Modules"
17:48.32Mikkcheck GearSets there
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17:50.18DocZedhi @ all
17:53.22Flexomnevcairiel: could you respond to the second last post in the bartender3 thread? ;) Page 92 Reply #1825
17:53.48nevcairieli should create a new thread
17:53.53Flexomhehe, aye
17:54.00Flexomgetting quite long:p
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17:55.12Silviu-Antiarc|Work
17:55.15Antiarc|WorkPong
17:55.33Silviu-Omen.lua:56
17:55.41Silviu-syntax error near if
17:55.56Wogroiplalright that worked, thanks a lot Mikk
17:56.17Antiarc|WorkThanks
17:56.21CIA-2203antiarc * r37975 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Corrected a typo.
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17:58.35JaxonSo one of the whelps is evading on Medivh in Black Morass for my alt's keychain.  Now we have to kill 6 more rifts before this whelp gets the shield down.
17:59.51vhaarrag`: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6439.0;topicseen
17:59.52vhaarrJaxon: Let that be a lesson, don't let the whelps pass.
17:59.52vhaarrJaxon: They often bug out like that.
17:59.52Antiarc|WorkJaxon: Does a beacon hit it?
17:59.52vhaarrno
17:59.52JaxonAntiarc|Work: tried that
17:59.52Antiarc|WorkAlso, you cna usually hit evading mobs by standing right on top of them.
17:59.56Antiarc|WorkBasically so they have nearly no distance to try to path
17:59.58vhaarrThe whelps bug often, like I just said.
18:00.09JaxonNever, ever seen it before
18:00.18vhaarrObviously.
18:00.22vhaarrBecause then you wouldn't let it happen.
18:00.49DocZedis there an addon like necrosis-totemus etc but with 'standard' button structure and fully customizable buttons?
18:01.04CIA-2203antiarc * r37976 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua: Threat-1.0: Added Nightbane module. Threat is wiped when Nightbane takes to the air now.
18:01.46Killmoreoh nice
18:01.53DocZedbasically left-right click for different spells or right click for a menu with a selection of spells to show on the main button
18:01.54Killmoreno more /ktm r macro :P
18:02.29ravagernlhow do i get a frame with a scaling to match exact pixels?
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18:03.27CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r37977 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/TrainerNotes.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: MapNotes: Added Babble-Tradeskill and commented out all unused translations.
18:04.01CIA-2203kalman * r37978 10DotDotDot/ (7 files in 3 dirs): DotDotDot: initial commit
18:04.04CIA-2203antiarc * r37979 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (Karazhan/Nightbane.lua Magtheridon/Magtheridon.lua): Threat-1.0: Added Magtheridon module. Fixed error in Nightbane module.
18:04.43alextDotDotDot
18:04.44alext????
18:04.56jwwpuaanyone familiar with MSBT custom triggers?
18:05.15hyperChipmunkWHEN YOU MAKE AN INITIAL COMMIT, INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION
18:05.15NeoTrondid they make the banish -> unbanished transition of Magtheridon easier in the last patch btw?
18:05.34NeoTronlike make him be targetable / attackable for a few secs before he statt gaining threat ?
18:06.15Kalman|hyperChipmunk: There's a description in the TOC, does that not get read out for files?
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18:06.43hyperChipmunkKalman|: for the svn people
18:06.44hyperChipmunklol
18:06.44vodrinlolol
18:06.49NeoTronAntiarc|Work: also, nightbane threat seems to be restored to pre-flight levels when he lands nowadays... that or they did soemthnig to make that transition not even remotely require a misdirect
18:07.13Antiarc|WorkNeoTron: Hm. Sure you aren't just using a good tank?
18:07.18NeoTronwell
18:07.24JaxonIt goes back to the tank now.
18:07.25NeoTronlet's just say we've had nights spent wiping on nightbane
18:07.28SarozI dont understand why this parser-3.0 shit isnt working for me in threat
18:07.28NeoTronwith a hunter misdirecting
18:07.35RoartindonNightbane has been far easier for us since 2.1.. with no hunter too
18:07.41NeoTronpost-patch we went w/o a hunter and a tank who never lost aggro on landign
18:07.56SarozNB got nerfed bad
18:08.03Sarozlanding aggro is piss now
18:08.05snurrei pulled aggro after 2nd landing on our nightbane this week.. when tank got a really nasty dodge/parry streak
18:08.11NeoTronNB either get threat reset later while landing (or even afteR)
18:08.22NeoTronor he resets to pre-flight levels
18:08.22snurrenot instantly tho, after like 20sec
18:08.23NeoTronnot sure
18:08.35RoartindonNeoTron: or maybe he's just given an initial threat, just like Twin emps used to
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18:08.44NeoTronI'm not sure what it is
18:08.52NeoTronjust know the mechanic  definitely has change
18:08.52snurreit must be initial, it's not completely carried over at least
18:08.57NeoTronmuch like it feels mag's changed
18:09.53KeiasMag gunna be the new ony?
18:10.13NeoTronboth maulgar/gruul and mag are the new ony's
18:10.21NeoTronlittle, trash, 30m or less instances
18:10.27NeoTrononce on farm that is
18:10.32CryectI think meant new ony with patch complaints
18:10.34Keiaswell I mean the whole "changed every patch"
18:10.37Keiasyeah
18:10.37CryectMagtheridon deep breaths more
18:10.37Keiaslol
18:10.38NeoTronah that
18:10.47NeoTronI think gruul is more likely
18:10.55snurregruul is too easy
18:10.57NeoTrongruul has more abiltiies :P
18:10.59NeoTronno he isn't
18:11.07NeoTronremember, this is meant to be very low level 25-man raids
18:11.17snurrenobody *cant* be a new ony, as anyone with at least some experience wont have any problems at all :p
18:11.20NeoTronthey aren't supposed to be hard
18:11.51CIA-2203antiarc * r37980 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Threat-1.0: Removed extraneous parser lib detection. Added Hydross module.
18:11.51NeoTronAdvancement through raids has been slower than blizzard intended
18:12.00NeoTronand not for lack of trying apparently
18:12.03snurrethe thing with ony was that she could wipe any raid in seconds, and with a random element to it that people kinda never figured out
18:12.17KeiasAnd never will
18:12.24KeiasWhich drives a lot of people nuts.
18:12.25SarozAntiarc, useParser30  is used later in the code
18:12.39NeoTronwell true.
18:12.40KeiasI'd love to finally know how Deep Breaths are triggered
18:12.46NeoTronmag can wipe the raid too but it's easy to figure out why
18:12.59NeoTronI bet DB is simply a matter of continuous DPS being applied
18:13.15vhaarrI bet it's not worth discussing how DB is triggered.
18:13.23Mikkgood point vhaarr
18:13.44MikkIn the end, the only thing that mattered was keeping your head up and running to the sides when DB happened
18:13.46snurrei know how ;)
18:13.58KeiasWere you here for the Curator Hateful Bolt discussion, vhaarr?
18:14.03KeiasYesterday, I mean.
18:14.03Sarozuhm
18:14.05Sarozthat one is easy
18:14.06Antiarc|WorkSaroz: Not in the NPC modules.
18:14.07Saroz2nd threat
18:14.09vhaarrKeias: no
18:14.14DocZedagain, is there someone with a good addon knowledge that can spare 5 minutes of his time?
18:14.15KeiasThat one wasn't pretty either :P
18:14.18SarozAntiarc|Work, kk
18:14.29NeoTronthreat + health not just threat but not too complicated
18:14.34Antiarc|WorkDocZed: Just ask the question and we'll answer if we know it :)
18:14.37Keiaslol
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18:15.14snurreony db is a simple % chance each move, nothing fancy at all
18:15.44RoartindonI read that ony DB was scripted: random(9) -> if 1-8, then move to that position, if 9, then deep breath
18:15.48DocZedi'm looking fo a mod
18:15.59DocZedvaguely like necrosis-totemous and the like
18:16.12NeoTronwould make a  lot of sense yes, becuase the randomness of an RNG can account for all scenarios :)
18:16.16DocZedbut without fixed spells
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18:16.26DocZedbasically left-right click for different spells or right click for a menu with a selection of spells to show on the main button
18:16.31SarozRoartindon....
18:16.33[Liq]What's wrong with gray and orange?
18:16.34NickenyfikenAntiarc: my voidwalkers threat is not reset after combat in Omen
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18:16.56NickenyfikenNot until i target something and then target nothing
18:17.02snurre70% of moving 1/6th of the room, either to the right or left.. 30% of deep breath and moving straight across the room... no other triggers (it was originally 50/50, then 30/70 by a mistake that got fixed in a week or so)
18:18.09CIA-2203antiarc * r37981 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: Added additional localization for Attumen. Nil localization tables after we get what we need out of them.
18:18.19DocZedis there anything like that? (not requiring the 'sphere' structure)
18:18.25CIA-2203gamefaq * r37982 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
18:18.25CIA-22Babble-2.2:
18:18.25CIA-22- deDE Spell Update Call of Nexus = Ruf des Nexus
18:18.35CIA-2203roartindon * r37983 10Assessment/ (. embeds.xml): Assessment: Fixed up externals, embeds.xml so that this can run properly as a standalone now
18:18.49Sarozwhat's assessment, hrrm
18:19.00RoartindonSaroz: A damage meters addon, including threat display from Threat-1.0
18:19.05Sarozviolation?
18:19.24RoartindonSaroz: Aims to include things that Violation will never have, including details fight information
18:19.35RoartindonBut it's only in it's 2nd day of existence so far :)
18:20.48CIA-2203antiarc * r37984 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: Threat-1.0: Added phase 2 detection to Attumen to move the number of mobs in the fight from 1 to 2.
18:20.56Sarozwant my violation to work :| gonna fix it tomorrow
18:21.17Antiarc|WorkNickenyfiken: Thanks for the report. Looks like the pet module has a ways to go yet :)
18:21.27hyperChipmunkyou suck
18:21.43hyperChipmunkoh wait
18:21.45hyperChipmunkthat's my module
18:21.55hyperChipmunkI SUCK!
18:22.10NickenyfikenAntiarc|Work: np, i thought it would be a good idea to share my observations
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18:22.37kergothRoartindon, how's it compare to Recount?
18:22.39Antiarc|WorkThanks :)
18:22.52Roartindonkergoth: The big difference is architecturally
18:22.55RoartindonAssessment is tag based
18:23.01RoartindonAnd the tag core is already in and working
18:23.08kergothah
18:23.24RoartindonIf you want to display healing done, you request [healingDone].. if you want healing per second, it:s [healingDone/maximum(combatTime, 1)]
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18:23.31RoartindonIf you want raw healing it's [healingDone+overHealingDone]
18:23.33Silviu-Antiarc|Work Omen.lua:119 atempt to call global function "functionConvertTok" a nil value
18:23.47kergothnifty
18:23.48hyperChipmunkoh shoot
18:23.55hyperChipmunkwhoever added in growl scaling, thanks
18:24.00hyperChipmunki totally forgot about that
18:24.16hyperChipmunkand also, /rude
18:24.23hyperChipmunkcuz that would have been fun to code =\
18:24.24CIA-2203antiarc * r37985 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix yet another typo. Thanks Silviu.
18:24.31Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: svn blame? :P
18:24.57Silviu-Np :P
18:25.04hyperChipmunkadrielle ftl
18:25.05Roartindonkergoth: It also supports multiple windows right from the start
18:25.21Roartindonkergoth: So I don't need 2 addons to watch dps, threat and  simultaneously
18:25.28kergoththat's good news, thats one thing thats annoying about violation and recount, cant view both threat and damage
18:25.32kergothcool
18:25.46jmeheh
18:25.50CIA-2203jncl * r37986 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
18:25.50CIA-22Skinner: Skinned LoadIT & MusicPlayer
18:25.50CIA-22- Bugfix for Tooltip Border colours
18:25.52jmei'm still using ktm and damagemeters :/
18:25.58Keiasomg yes, Skinner fix
18:25.59kergothgasp
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18:28.01hyperChipmunkwoo
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18:29.29omegawhat is recount?
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18:32.25Mikk~recount
18:32.38Matrix110similiar to recap iirc
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18:32.44omegaaha, cool
18:32.52omeganot ace-based, or hosted somewhere else?
18:33.08Gnutelbithi everyone i got a little bug with my minimap icon menu. i use the FuBarPlugin-2.0 and Dewdrop-2.0 .  when i right click the icon all my otpions are there but the default options are there twice. (about,profile,enable,detach tooltip etc). anyone as any idea why ?
18:33.35Matrix110[Ammo] can we get Raw Healing done btw? shouldnt be hard to implement i think as we got effective and overhealing already in Violation
18:33.50kergothRoartindon, looking nice already :) any place in particular you want comments / reports / feature requests and such?
18:34.01[Ammo]Matrix110: raw healing is teh suck
18:34.05[Ammo]but I can do a module for ya :p
18:34.06Roartindonkergoth: Not at the moment, it's far far from being close to feature-minimum :)
18:34.10Matrix110well idc iam a mage
18:34.12omegaaha, recount != Recount when you search case-sensitive :p
18:34.13RoartindonBut some guildmates are already using it
18:34.14Matrix110but our Priests complain:P
18:34.16kenlyric_raw healing is so shadow priests can be #1
18:34.51kenlyric_priests only care about raw healing so we can cry over how much overhealing paladins do and still have more mana.
18:34.57RoartindonThe Threat module in there is somewhat nicer than Omen, as if you have a friendly target, or no target, it'll show you the maximum threat that a player has on any unit
18:35.43kergothneat
18:35.44RoartindonHealers couldn't see threat with Omen at all, if they were only ever targetting friendly units (well, seemed that way when I checked more recently)
18:36.01[Ammo]bullshit
18:36.08[Ammo]Omen scans 5 targets deep
18:36.15[Ammo]it usualy finds a hostile on
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18:36.16[Ammo]one
18:36.22[Ammo]unless they're targetting nothign at all
18:36.25RoartindonIf you ahve no target
18:37.02Killmorethey will be an option soon
18:37.06Killmoresome options
18:37.36RoartindonYep, I know Omen is work in progress too
18:37.38sbuRoartindon: i like the multi-window stuff
18:37.42KillmoreAntiarc is working on Threat-1.0 when the lib will be good enough he will start working with Omen
18:37.53RoartindonKillmore: I know, I know :)
18:38.40Sarozzomfg, violation is fixed
18:38.41SarozHOW!
18:38.44knarf-What is the new cool on the ace front, wth is Thread-1.0 and Omen? :>
18:39.03MikkThreat-1.0 is a threat monitoring library
18:39.07alextomen replaces KTM
18:39.09alextor will
18:39.11alextthank god
18:39.12RoartindonOmen is the front end of Threat-1.0
18:39.22Chompersomen by itsself?
18:39.29MikkViolation and .. uhmm some other mod too I think, also embeds Threat-1.0 now
18:39.59knarf-So kinda what ora is for ctra, omen / threat-1.0 is gonna be for ktm ? :>
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18:40.14MikkThreat-1.0 + whatever Ace mod that embeds it
18:40.16Roartindonknarf-: I think so.
18:40.18knarf-that came out wrong, hope it made sence :P
18:40.37MikkI'm pretty sure I'll be flying Violation Airlines myself to cut down on screen realestate
18:40.41RoartindonAntiarc did a good job splitting the two bits - the library and the UI, so that any addon can get the info
18:41.00MikkYeah, brilliant move
18:41.00kergothRoartindon, i presume that the 'group' list type is filtering out the player's pet?  notice i see it in omen but not in assessment
18:41.03knarf-Thats the way to do it anyway :)
18:41.11NickenyfikenEmbedd Threat in BigWigs and oRA so there is a bigger chance guildies have it :-P
18:41.19Roartindonkergoth: Ah shit, I should iterate with pets enabled...
18:41.22kergothhehe
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18:41.43Mikkknarf-: Of course. Everything looks simple in hind sight :-P
18:41.50Roartindonkergoth: I'll make a threat list iterator
18:42.01RoartindonWhich will be better than iterating the group
18:42.06Gnutelbitanyone familiar with fubarplugin can help me out with a little bug ?
18:42.22RoartindonGnutelbit: Are you creating your menu with an aceoptions table?
18:42.32Gnutelbitya
18:43.15Gnutelbitif i feed my table directy to a dewdrop it work fine but with fubar i get duplicate default options
18:43.20MikkHmm.. should Compression in Baggins move stuff into specialty bags if possibly? It should, shouldn't it?
18:43.37Antiarc|WorkYes, Mikk
18:44.26RoartindonGnutelbit: Ah, I've seen that bug before
18:44.30knarf-Mikk i'm jsut fond of the layered design :)
18:44.52RoartindonEasier to just use the aceoptions table rather than feeding it into dewdrop
18:45.12Roartindonbut I did fix that double menu options appearing for BattlegroundFu I think, or some other addon
18:45.17RoartindonGonna check the logs
18:45.22Mikkknarf-: Oh, don't get me wrong. I think we all are. It just isn't that bloody obvious :>
18:45.46knarf-Mikk hehe :)
18:45.53MikkI mean.. when I've been praying for someone to make a less-sucky threat meter, I haven't exactly been thinking "oh and please split it off to a lib"
18:46.57MikkHell, I'd even use something that ate as much CPU as KTM as long as the GUI didn't suck big hairy balls
18:46.59Cryectthe lib is good
18:47.16Cryectmeans its get trojaned in with other addons ;)
18:47.43MikkKTM's GUI may well be the most counter-intuitive piece of crud I've ever seen
18:47.47MikkAnd I've seen some bad shit in my days
18:47.47knarf-:P
18:48.07MikkVB & MS Access form horrors galore
18:48.17knarf-Mikk hehe
18:48.39knarf-ye ktm is not exactly intuitive :)
18:49.00Chomperswoo violation update :D
18:49.07knarf-only problem is to get everyone convinced to switching to ktm :P
18:49.08Chompersi like the bar at the top
18:49.11Mikkit's just a new icon :S
18:49.19sbuno problem at all knarf-
18:49.27sbuforce your tanks to switch
18:49.37sbushould be enough ;p
18:49.45knarf-well our gm is pretty fond of ace itself
18:49.48Chompersno no, i mean the ability to select what type of info you see without using the fubar plugin
18:49.53knarf-and he is our t ank :;P
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18:50.17MikkChompers: ahh, yeah =)
18:50.27knarf-but other than not parsing/polling in the city, what enhancements are there in thread-1.0 compared to ktm ? :)
18:50.31MikkOfc the fubar plugin hurts less with the shiny icon, right? :-P
18:50.45Josh_Borkeknarf-: it doesn't poll all the time
18:50.54Mikkknarf-: multi-target threat tracking
18:51.25knarf-So Thread-1.0 is Event driven ?
18:51.32MikkYes
18:51.34Josh_Borkeknarf-: yes
18:51.44MikkAnd if you're buying the crack about KTM's polling being any good
18:51.51MikkCheck up on the perf stats
18:51.58MikkKTM uses 20-100 more times CPU than Threat
18:52.01Chompersits bad crack kids, dont do it
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18:52.06MikkThreat+Omen even
18:52.07Chompersnot the happy stuff at all
18:52.14knarf-well in my head doing constant updates can't be any good compared to events :>
18:52.23MikkCorrect ;)
18:52.26Josh_BorkeMikk:  it might be better if he delayed polling until events fired
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18:52.48MikkPossible. But I don't even get what the hell he's polling.
18:53.01knarf-i'm not even sure what polling means :P
18:53.01MikkI mean.. it's not like you can poll for what damage you've done the past N millisecs
18:53.25MikkMe neither in that context
18:53.33MikkDelaying GUI updates perhaps?
18:53.34MikkThat's a good thing
18:53.44MikkToo bad he executes half the world each OnUpdate either way
18:54.23knarf-:P
18:55.06Antiarc|WorkMikk: He polls your talents, buffs, stances, and gear once per second.
18:55.09hyperChipmunkRoartindon: i never figured out why batfu duped menu items =P
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18:55.23MikkAntiarc: ohyeah, cheers
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18:55.34RoartindonhyperChipmunk: seems like my fix isn't committed in svn
18:55.41RoartindonhyperChipmunk: and I'm not at home where I ahve the fixed addon
18:55.44knarf-no wiki page for omen yet? :<
18:55.50Antiarc|Workknarf-: No, not yet.
18:55.56Antiarc|WorkIt's just a debugging GUI right now
18:56.02Mikkomen is like... pre-inhouse-alpha
18:56.09Antiarc|WorkOnce it's actually starting to develop it'll have a wiki page
18:56.12knarf-well just some info about the concept would be sweet :)
18:56.26sbuwell its enough for me - i can run it instead of ktm since my tanks still use ktm + send data to me ;p
18:56.32MikkThe work with Threat started like one week ago. The guys are working miracles as is :-P
18:56.36JaxonSo what kind of gems do you get for Consortium Exalted?
18:56.44Antiarc|WorkThreat will be one week old in about...5 hours :P
18:56.46knarf-Mikk hehe :P
18:57.32sbuJaxon: i got 2 blues for reverted
18:57.43MikkI gotta wonder tho... what happens if I pick GroupCalendar and GEM apart and show everyone how much it sucks....  will I also be able to rally a group that codes a better addon in a week? =)
18:57.44JaxonI'm already revered, got 4 yellows, 1 blue.
18:57.46knarf-Antiarc quite cool :P
18:58.15MikkLiek... votes
18:58.23MikkAnd a mini notice board
18:58.27hyperChipmunkMikk: trick is to coax their authors into being jerktards in public
18:58.41MikkAnd no bloody 5min sync times
18:58.55MikkAh, shit I got to do that, too? I suck at that :<
18:59.01hyperChipmunkif you frame it, they will come
18:59.27sbuJaxon: 1 moment, guildie is exalted and is going to get them now
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19:01.19CIA-2203kergoth * r37987 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Pet.lua: Threat-1.0: Pet module: the onupdate function is a local checkPetOutOfCombat, not a method of self.
19:01.35kergothi expect thats why it wasnt resetting.. it never realized the pet left combat
19:01.35kergothheh
19:02.15knarf-meh, my only problem with wow and making addons is making the gui
19:02.25knarf-*yawn*
19:02.26knarf-:P
19:02.30hyperChipmunktablet is your friend
19:02.36Elkanogu...what?
19:02.58hyperChipmunkyou just have to learn to rethink everything in terms of tablet
19:03.05sbuJaxon: 5 greens for me now (reverted), exalted got 2 blues
19:03.22JaxonThanks, sbu.
19:03.28knarf-hyperChipmunk hmm i'm making a bidding frame for dkp :S
19:03.48hyperChipmunkfunc = "BidForItem"
19:05.02knarf-My only problem is it takes forever to check of the gui will look :<
19:06.09knarf-s/of the/how the/
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19:06.59Gnutelbitroar : you found anything ?
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19:07.53DocZedsorry to bother you, but 'm still here, i have been serarching for about 3 hours for a mod
19:07.56JaxonAntiarc: how did you manage to test misdirect with it messed up so?
19:08.41DocZedanyone that couls help me in pvt?
19:08.56JaxonDocZed: what do you want the mod to do?
19:09.02Antiarc|WorkJaxon: What do you mean?
19:09.29JaxonAntiarc|Work: best I could tell, the threat goes to the midsirected player/pet, but it also goes to the hunter.
19:09.53Antiarc|WorkJaxon: It shouldn't go to the hunter at all. The way the method is written, it can only go to one or the other.
19:10.08DocZedJaxon: PVTing you
19:10.10Antiarc|WorkIf a redirect target is set, that target gets all the source threat until the redirect target is unset.
19:11.01JaxonCheck it out again.  Misdirect to your pet, use all three charges and the pet has aggro.  Hit the target once more, he'll come running to you.  Misdirect has been messed up the last two weeks.
19:11.32Antiarc|WorkJaxon: Ah, you mean the actual misdirect, not Threat's implementation of it.
19:11.36JaxonRight.
19:12.16DocZedjaxon: sry pvt seems to be blocked, anyway do you know necrosis - totemous and similar mods?
19:12.42JaxonDocZed: I think Henge is a framework for Generic circle mods like that, isn't it?
19:12.53Antiarc|WorkWell, in that case, Threat's misdirection value will be off. I'll have to decide whether I want to code around Blizzard bugs or hope they fix it soon :P
19:13.15nekoh_its confirmed buggy ATM
19:13.24nekoh_only the first shot is misdirected
19:13.29DocZedjaxon: jes, checked it, but i did recall necro-totem just to get an axample of one thing they do
19:13.48Antiarc|WorkIt should be easy enough to adjust Threat for that, I think.
19:13.53Antiarc|WorkI'll add a config switch to it.
19:14.17DocZedjaxon: 2 actually, right-click menus on buttons and right-left click for 2 different spells
19:14.27cladhaireKemayo_: PING
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19:15.10JaxonDocZed: I thought you could use different spells on left/right click using macros?
19:15.15Fisker-OMG
19:15.23Fisker-The new Blizzard game is Starcraft 2
19:15.26DocZedjaxxon i'm looking for a mod able to do those things and more customizable (i chose the menu's spells and the spells on left click)
19:15.48DocZedjaxon: yes but the menu-thing cannot be done via macro
19:15.51MoredineHey folks, your addons rock the world, but I was wondering if I could request a feature:  Tell the taunt mods to load for paladins :D
19:16.11JaxonDocZed: like Popbar or something?
19:16.30DocZedjaxon: give me a min to check popbar
19:16.32hyperChipmunkMoredine: hummina-what-what?
19:16.53MoredineYou have a very kickass mod for druids and warriors that announces in channels when a taunt is resisted.
19:17.00hyperChipmunkah
19:17.02MoredineI need something like that for my protection paladin :-)
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19:18.56CIA-2203antiarc * r37988 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Added a band-aid for Blizzard's misdirection bug. If USE_BUGGED_MISDIRECTION == true then Misdirection will be switched off after the first source of threat that is misdirected.
19:19.06kergothRoartindon, oh, while you're on irc.. i had an aloft question.. i noticed the feature you have that makes it so that clicking on the nameplate doesn't target the mob.. that can be useful, but I also noticed that you can't click -through- the nameplates even with that feature enabled, just clicking on them does nothing.  would it be possible for you to disable the mouse on the frames to allow clickthrough?
19:19.16DocZedjaxon: popbar doesn't seem like what i need
19:19.24hyperChipmunkdoesn't look like the authors of either of the taunt mods are in the channel >8P
19:19.25Roartindonkergoth: I tried, I couldn't figure out how
19:19.27kergothaw
19:19.30JaxonDocZed: then I'm not sure if one exists.
19:19.32kergothokay, figured i'd check
19:19.34kergoth:)
19:19.36Roartindonkergoth: The odd thing is to disable clicking, you use EnableMouse on the frame
19:19.48kergoththats.. odd indeed
19:19.49fixtzecan you set closetgnome to load a specific gearsetup when evocating?
19:19.53Roartindonotherwise they have some (I'm guessing) in-built C handler
19:19.54hyperChipmunkyea
19:19.59sbumisdirection bug?
19:20.15hyperChipmunki've tried to make passthrough frames like that too, and it doesn't work =P
19:20.24kergothhmm, i wonder how they implement that handler
19:20.32nekohsbu: only the first shot gets misdirected atm
19:20.40cotangentyes but you need ClosetGnome_Switcher
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19:20.51CIA-2203roartindon * r37989 10Assessment/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Assessment: Added Group Members and Pets list type. Added Threat List type. Added Dispel module, not in .toc until I figure out why self-dispels aren't being correctly captured
19:21.01DocZedjaxon: i din't think addon like those was possible untill i stepped into totemus, but if that do exists i think it's very weird that no button-menu addon exist
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19:21.25hyperChipmunkthat ain't true (the m/d thing)
19:21.35_icetrainNo the misdirect bug is that only 2 shots gets threat transferred, if you shoot the third the hunter gets all
19:21.48Antiarc|WorkOh.
19:22.46Antiarc|WorkWay to confuse me! :P
19:22.46jmegood to know
19:22.46Fisker-[Ammo] zomg ideas
19:22.47Antiarc|WorkI'm not even going to begin to guess how I could fix that.
19:22.47_icetrain=)
19:22.47JaxonI think the problem with Misdirect has been improperly diagnosed, I have no problem with 3 shots.  The forth puts the mob on me instead of the misdirect target though
19:22.49SarozAntiarc, Threat-1.0.lua:432: attempt to index local 'activeModule' (nil value)
19:23.09hyperChipmunkyea, i haven't had any problems with m/d
19:23.30Roartindonkergoth: See whether you pet shows up properly now
19:23.45Sarozhttp://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7813/wowscrnshot053107232020vc1.jpg << what's that cooldown mod on the right
19:23.48_icetrainwell it's been blue confirmed it's bugged and will be fixed in the next patch
19:23.54sbuAntiarc|Work: want me to test some localization stuff?
19:24.10Antiarc|Worksbu: Go for it.
19:24.17hyperChipmunk...other than the fact that i just tried to test it out and wow crashed instead =\
19:24.23sbuAntiarc|Work: what do you need?
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19:24.33_icetrainlol
19:24.48kergothRoartindon, will do
19:25.14Antiarc|Worksbu: Two people in a party running ThreatLib, different locales, target an enemy and then /script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpTranslationTable()
19:25.25sbufor both clients or only 1?
19:25.31Antiarc|WorkOnly 1 is fine
19:25.34sbuokay
19:25.42RoartindonSaroz: Looks like rdx
19:26.28hyperChipmunkok
19:27.01hyperChipmunki just redirected to my pet and did two level 1 arcane shots, then a distracting shot, then another level 1 arcane shot
19:27.05kergothRoartindon, woot, works great now :)
19:27.13hyperChipmunkand it never moved off my pet
19:27.42_icetraindid the same thing the other day, at shot three the mob turned and ran towards me
19:28.04JaxonI've only had problems with multiple mob pulls.  Farming 3-4 mobs at once, King Maulgar, etc.
19:28.24hyperChipmunkAntiarc|Work: in a related note, omen didn't pick up the misdirected threat because the pet wasn't itself attacking
19:28.24_icetrainwe ha some issues at magtheridon as well with it
19:28.35[Liq]Is there a command for tabbing?
19:28.41Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: Yeah, hope I'll have that fixed in a bit.
19:28.54hyperChipmunkif that's also true for players, that's pretty nasty
19:29.01Garoun|LoupanaAntiarc any eta on Omen becoming comfortably raid test ready :P
19:29.13Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: It shouldn't be due to the funky pet-in-combat detection
19:29.16hyperChipmunksince it'd affect m/d pulling
19:29.20Antiarc|WorkGaroun|Loupana: When it's ready :)
19:29.32hyperChipmunkk
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19:29.44Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: I had it working right on players last night - if I broke it again, I can fix it pretty easily
19:29.48hyperChipmunkhehe
19:29.52Garoun|Loupanawell duh :P I wasn't sure what level of testing you were ready for :P, but guess I shoulda said it that way hehe
19:30.09hyperChipmunkI'd say you might do a check to see if your target is in combat and has your pet as its target
19:30.10Antiarc|WorkGaroun|Loupana: That's my way of saying "I don't know, but as soon as possible I hope!" :)
19:30.12KebinusanI like the arrows on hte violation gui to switch between views
19:30.18hyperChipmunkand have that trigger pet combat too
19:30.30Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: I like that. Not a bad idea.
19:31.01Garoun|Loupanawell the moment you think your at a comfortable beta stage say the word and I'll get my group to install it and put it through paces
19:31.29hyperChipmunki'm trying to think of anything else that would squeeze through the cracks, but I can't
19:31.30Fisker-omg lol
19:31.45[Liq]hyperChipmunk, which mod?
19:31.51Fisker-just got a weeks ban for linking to a wowwiki because it had a rickroll in it
19:32.10Killmorehahaha
19:32.13Fisker-but hey atleast it's not permanent again
19:32.15hyperChipmunkunless you use a mouseover or focus target or something to do the agro
19:32.58hyperChipmunkmaybe check mouseovertarget, focustarget, and target for your pet
19:33.08hyperChipmunk[Liq]: with respect to what
19:33.17Josh_BorkeCryect: ping
19:33.23hyperChipmunkbut 99% at least one of the mobs will be your target
19:33.29kergothRoartindon, i presume you'll add an option to choose whether you want the text to be outline or not for the various texts, right :)  and i see that the title font size doesnt seem to grow the title area of the window, so there's a tiny amount of overlap.. other than that, seems quite functional, i'm impressed at how far along it is already
19:33.42kergoth~praise Roartindon
19:34.08purlAll hail Roartindon!
19:34.08hyperChipmunkalso handy to know: the hunter does get put into combat when he misdirects
19:34.09Roartindonkergoth: Yeah, there's a ton of options that have code for, but no options for
19:34.09hyperChipmunkeven though he has 0 threat
19:34.09RoartindonYou can change the title region by window->title->height
19:34.12sbuAntiarc|Work: in combat?
19:34.24Antiarc|Worksbu: Shouldn't matter
19:34.38RoartindonTitle color and outline options are available if you edit the SVs atm :)
19:34.46RoartindonI'll get those in sometime today
19:34.56sbuokay
19:34.59sbutesting now ;p
19:35.04hyperChipmunki guess it wouldn't work if you misdirect to somebody else's pet
19:35.31hyperChipmunkbut that's getting far enough into edge cases that you can just say 'screw it'
19:36.02hyperChipmunksince it'd still work in several circumstances anyway
19:36.17Roartindonkergoth: I'll get shadow and outline in soon :) Just not using my regular computer atm, so finding it frustrating to edit stuff :)
19:36.28kergothugh that sucks, i know how that is
19:36.49kergoththat's why i carry a portable vim install on my usb stick :D
19:36.58Industrialha!
19:36.58kergothhehe
19:37.45Fisker-Punkie` OH U
19:37.58Punkie`yo
19:38.10Fisker-<-banned again
19:38.12Fisker-;(
19:38.14IndustrialFisker-: NO U
19:38.15Punkie`what for!
19:38.24Fisker-Rickrolling!
19:38.35Punkie`Rickrolling is so old
19:38.45Fisker-but i didn't :(
19:38.52Fisker-i just linked to my previous guild
19:38.53Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Did_it_for_the_lulz_%28Ravencrest_EU%29
19:39.16sbuAntiarc: empty on both clients
19:39.18sbuP{
19:39.19sbuerr {}
19:39.26Industrialwhats "rickrolling" ?
19:39.33Antiarc|Worksbu: Ok. That's a good clue then.
19:39.34Punkie`look at the link
19:39.37Punkie`at the bottom
19:44.03Industrialembedding stuff?
19:44.04Punkie`nah
19:44.04todd`anyone else still getting wow crashes as soon as they enter the world
19:44.04Punkie`just generally making a post like
19:44.04Punkie`"omg look at this 25k pyro crit"
19:44.04Punkie`and then linking to that youtube
19:44.05Industriallol
19:44.05Fisker-Punkie` i know but that can't be rickrolling :(
19:44.05Punkie`Rick Astley is clearly a legend anyway
19:44.05Punkie`it shouldn't be a bannable offence to point someone to his awesome video
19:44.07sbuAntiarc: any idea? :p
19:44.07Fisker-Seriously though
19:44.07Fisker-it wasn't like i was trying to rickroll them :o
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19:44.08Antiarc|Worksbu: No, but I'll get it tested and figured out.
19:44.08todd`are people getting banned for that now?
19:44.39Fisker-atleast my ban timers got reset
19:45.25Fisker-apparently todd`
19:45.25Fisker-i'm already past a perm ban :P
19:46.28Kebinusanyou get banned for rick rollin'?
19:46.37Fisker-yup
19:46.37CIA-2203cryect * r37992 10Recount/GUI_Reset.lua: Recount - Fixes an error message triggered when pressing the reset button (whoops on not fully cleaning up copy & pasted code).
19:46.57KebinusanI got fooled by a rather well crafted one on the raids and dungeon forums about gruul last week
19:47.17Fisker-and it wasn't even a rickroll :(!
19:47.29todd`there was one about 25 blood elves in magtheridon's lair
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19:47.53sz3hello :)
19:47.55KebinusanIm a bit disappointed that after you kill magtheridon that zoning into blood furnace doesnt have him dead
19:48.48Fisker-hey sz3
19:48.51alextno different than UBRS with nef
19:48.52alext;[
19:49.01alexthes always there with his silly general
19:49.04Kebinusanalext: yeah I spose so
19:49.11alextbut yeah i hear yah
19:49.26alextwould be nice if there was some event trigger that made him dead for you until tuesday reset
19:49.27shieldbdoesn't seem like it would be that hard to check as to if the party leader is saved to a magtheridon's lair timer though
19:49.28KebinusanI guess magtheridon is much more pronounced in bf tho
19:49.34alextyeah def
19:49.38alextsince hes HUGE
19:49.41alextand you cant miss him
19:49.43Kebinusanand yells
19:49.43shieldbmagtheridon is the only boss in there so if you're saved then he's dead
19:49.46alextI missed nef up in UBRS for months
19:49.50alexti never even noticed him up there
19:50.10Kebinusanshieldb: the raid id's check which bosses are dead too
19:52.16shieldbI was just referring to checking for a raid id on mag's lair to not spawn him in blood furnace
19:52.16CIA-2203roartindon * r37993 10Assessment/Modules/UserInterface.lua: Assessment: Added text shadow/outline options
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19:52.32grennonalright, so how do i set the end of line setting before i do an initial import? :-)
19:53.58grennonbecause my initial import just got rejected for not having eol-style set
19:54.05grennonwhich seems to be a chicken vs egg thing
19:54.06Roartindongrennon: I normally create an empty directory first :)
19:54.19Roartindongrennon: svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AddonName
19:54.22Roartindonthen check that out
19:54.29Roartindonand then put it all in, and svn:eol-style it, etc.
19:54.37grennonmaybe i should go back to hardcore raiding and forget updating my mods
19:56.14CIA-2203grennon * r37994 10GPriceEach/: Created folder remotely
19:56.22shieldbhmm, shade of leotheras isn't localized in babble-boss
19:58.28sbuwhats gprice? :p
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19:58.49hyperChipmunkgrennon: yea, I do what Roartindon just said
19:58.58Industrialsadf We are proceeding with your subscription to Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning. sadfsadf
19:59.01Industrialpuh-leeeeeze
19:59.12grennonits an old desk drawer mod i never committed
19:59.35kergothgrennon, if you set up autoprops, the import will get them set.
19:59.36grennoni figure if i dont commit it, ill probably accidentally delete my local copies
20:00.36Aenslaedis checking if you are in combat or not a server or client side thing?
20:01.11Aenslaedcause i've been combat bugged 5 times today but none at all yesterday.
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20:02.17Antiarc|WorkWhat's the exact name of Hydross' adds, and is there a message when they spawn?
20:02.21shieldbwhen he changes phases they spawn
20:02.32Antiarc|WorkOk.
20:02.46shieldbTainted/Pure Spawn of Hydross
20:02.59NightHawkTheSaneUgh, "please send me a word attachment of your resume." gaah, get the hell out of 1998, who uses word for resumes!
20:03.19NightHawkTheSaneand do you know how much of a pain it is to translate a latex/pdf document into word? ><
20:03.35kergoththat's stupid.  i send companies pdf, if they dont like it, they arent a company i want to work for anyway
20:03.58NightHawkTheSanekergoth: yeah, i send pdfs too. But at the moment, I don't really have the option of being especially picky. ><
20:04.04kergothhehe
20:04.06kergothknow how that is
20:05.40CIA-2203grennon * r37995 10GPriceEach/ (. GPriceEach.lua GPriceEach.toc): (log message trimmed)
20:05.40CIA-22GPriceEach:
20:05.40CIA-22-Initial Commit. There was once a mod called PriceEach displayed per unit
20:05.40CIA-22pricing for stacked items with buyout prices on the Auction House. This mod was
20:05.40CIA-22abandoned and broke eventually when the Auction APIs changed and is now all but
20:05.41CIA-22forgotten in the world of men. A hero named Grennon fixed his local copy and in
20:05.45CIA-22doing so decided to remove all extra features and convert it to AceHook. Grennon
20:06.19grennonplays on an RP server.
20:06.24grennonfinish the story CIA
20:07.15sz3hm, Antiarc|Work, is it to early for a little Omen feature request?
20:07.18grennonjust a hack ive had on my hard drive for over a year
20:07.27Antiarc|Worksz3: It's never too early!
20:07.33Punkie`grennon: Sounds like PricePer!
20:07.48grennonactually, i changed 3 things in it based on priceper
20:07.54jmeAntiarc|Work: is omen going to track dps as well as threat?
20:08.04grennonbut i dont use abacus, i couldnt get the formatting the way i wanted
20:08.07jmeor is it purely a threat monitor
20:08.16Punkie`jme: purely threat
20:08.26jmeok
20:08.30grennoni made a formatting function based on abacus though and using abacus naming so its easy to read
20:08.32Fisker-<PROTECTED>
20:08.34NightHawkTheSanejme: use violation for standard damage meter stuff, it also has a threat module
20:08.50Fisker-man i really should stop doing this to my tanks
20:08.58grennonPricePer has the old PriceEach features though, i just need a mod that splits stack prices
20:09.07Punkie`grennon: ah ok
20:09.10grennonno saved variables, no command line, etc
20:09.24Antiarc|WorkFisker-: I'm on a personal quest to destroy your happiness!
20:09.35jmeNightHawkTheSane: last i checked i couldn't have both damage and threat displayed at the same time with violation
20:09.52vhaarryou can soon
20:09.57Fisker-nice Antiarc|Work :(
20:09.57grennonlooking at the priceper code helped me figure out how to remove one the functions i was using to parse item data from the data
20:10.00grennongood mod
20:10.24Punkie`grennon: I don't mind the SV, they're tiny :)
20:10.39grennoni was using a nasty long link:match til i saw how priceper did his
20:10.58Chompersstupid event, couldnt solo it :/
20:11.00sz3perhaps it is not even omen, but I would like an audible alarm / screen flashing if I come close to pulling aggro from the MT, perhaps a percentage I can set and getting to close will make those alarmbells ring, without keeping too much attention to those tiny little bars. Like BanzaiAlert, but alerts before you really got aggro :)
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20:11.20hyperChipmunkgrennon: share
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20:11.39Punkie`hyperChipmunk: he just committed it?
20:11.52jmesz3: i had a mod that announced when i pulled aggro, i think it was aUF_Banzai, but i'm not sure
20:11.52Antiarc|Worksbu: There will definitely be something like that coming.
20:11.58hyperChipmunksz3: sounds like something for a full-featured one
20:11.59Antiarc|WorkErr: sz3, not sbu
20:12.23sz3jme: it should warn _before_ pulling aggro ;)
20:12.26hyperChipmunkbar coloring based on danger rather than class would be how i'd do it
20:12.47jmesz3: yeah. this one just told me what i already knew ;)
20:13.15grennonat one time i asked about adding a FormatAuctionPrice to Abacus, and he was open to the idea, but i thought it was pretentious of me to think that i could set a standard for auction price formatting
20:14.10grennoninstead of having my own custom abacus-esque function in gprice
20:14.55sz3Antiarc|Work: sbu?
20:14.58hyperChipmunkPunkie`: i was referring to the item info technique
20:15.17Antiarc|Worksz3: Another person in this channel - I mistyped his name rather than yours
20:15.19hyperChipmunksz3: he tabcompleted the wrong person
20:15.19todd`so.. I'm maintaining a progression thread, and I have two guilds with identical progression, except one downed doom lord kazzak, and the other downed doomwalker.. which boss is considered harder?
20:15.27sz3ah, I see, thought it was a shortcut ^^
20:15.29grennonif i shared the item:info line, it would just look like data corruption :-)
20:15.52hyperChipmunka line number will do
20:15.56Fisker-btw
20:16.05Fisker-why do someone keep doing some change to pitbull that makes the barfader go nuts?
20:16.21Fisker-looking at you Punkie`
20:16.32grennonill pastey my old copy
20:16.40Punkie`wtf!
20:16.49Punkie`i dont use pitbull
20:17.00jmeheh
20:17.13Chompers..\AddOns\Omen\Omen.lua line 119:   attempt to call global 'functionConvertToK' (a nil value)
20:17.22Chompersif thats of any use Antiarc
20:17.26Fisker-[2007/06/01 21:32:06-1217-x3319]: PitBull_BarFader\BarFader.lua:199: attempt to index field 'powerBar' (a nil value)
20:17.27Fisker-:<
20:17.36grennonhyperChipmunk: http://ace.pastey.net/47950?hi=28
20:17.56Punkie`Fisker-: If you poke your finger on the screen at the powerbar, i heard it indexes the field itself
20:18.07nymbiahttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/
20:18.07nymbia"In other news, i had an awesome brainstorm and have some cool stuff in the pipeline for KTM 20.x."
20:18.07nymbiawho wants to bet that 'brainstorm' was a round of stealing ideas from Threat-1.0?
20:18.18kergothhyperChipmunk, is it true that the order of buttons in the pet bar affects the order in which the pet uses the abilities when the necessary focus is available?
20:18.28grennonvs the way Rycochet gets the data, its a no brainer his way was better
20:18.50hyperChipmunkkergoth: never looked
20:19.06hyperChipmunki can test it in a few mins though
20:19.10grennonthreat-1.0?
20:19.19kergothhmm, remember hearing it somewhere and never found out if it was accurate
20:19.59grennonwhat i really need is a single "group combat agent"
20:20.11RoartindonFisker-: I thought that pitbull had barfader inbuilt now
20:20.15Roartindonor is that the LoD module?
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20:20.38grennonit reports threat, raid datas, and combat stats to party/raid
20:20.57grennonthen mods like recap would just be frontends and collectors of the data
20:21.25grennonthat way a raid member who doesnt want to use the frontends, can at least run the agent silently and not intrude on their gameplay
20:21.25Roartindongrennon: Well, Parser-3.0 does most of the combat log parsing, gathering stats is easy
20:21.34Roartindonoh, I see what you mean
20:21.42grennonyeah, see what i mean?
20:22.00RoartindonI'm sure there will be some way to do that for threat-1.0 :)
20:22.09grennonso my ora would send out a query, and the agent would return the data
20:22.23grennonor my ktm-replacement
20:23.16grennonhaving someone who doesnt need to view KTM data (low threat class), doesnt need to view my damage (non damage class) load various front end mods to accomodate me gets tiring
20:23.52JaxonI thought Recap was abandonware.
20:24.05grennontheres forks of it
20:24.17grennonHawk's recpa is pretty good
20:25.31JaxonHmm, I don't get tooltips for party/raid members when they are on top of PvP objectives in Cartographer.
20:25.44grennonactually, its Hawksy's recap ive been using lately
20:25.46grennonhttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5467/
20:26.45JaxonThis way I can get rid of the SWS window and just keep it active to sync with my raid
20:27.08grennonwell, open up your combat log range and you really dont need to sync
20:27.29hyperChipmunkcouldn't you just install Threat-1.0 standalone?
20:27.44JaxonI mean, keep my SWS active so my guild's SWS users can grab my data.
20:28.39grennonmy guild members have been switch to that recap fork
20:29.02JaxonRecap syncs now?  wowzers.
20:29.11kergothgrennon, there was an addon in wowace svn long ago that acted like that agent you mentioned, it was something you'd just give out to guildies and such to access bits of data from them.. i dont recall the name though :)
20:29.38JaxonThe only one I ever used was Gello's original.
20:29.57Antiarc|WorkYou can install Threat-1.0 standalone if you just want to feed threat information to your group.
20:29.58grennonkergoth: well, you see the paradigm already in the way ora2 is designed
20:30.28Antiarc|WorkAnd nymbia, if he wants to steal ideas from me, all the better. :)
20:30.36Antiarc|WorkIt just means better quality products for the community.
20:31.08CIA-2203roartindon * r37996 10Assessment/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Assessment: Removed TypeList dependent data. The list type is always a dependent data source. groupMembers now marks dirty flags when the group changes to update the display list
20:31.28NightHawkTheSaneWhat's Assessment?
20:31.35nymbiaAntiarc|Work: your ideas shall be implemented at a speed of once per OnUpdate!  that shall make them even better!! ;)
20:31.47NightHawkTheSanenymbia: lol.
20:32.06jmeNightHawkTheSane: another frontend to Threat, iirc
20:32.20NightHawkTheSaneneat.
20:32.44NightHawkTheSaneAlso neat: life on mars series 2 finished downloading
20:32.54CIA-2203antiarc * r37997 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (7 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20:32.54CIA-22Threat-1.0:
20:32.54CIA-22- Added methods to maintain a mob count in specific encounters. Any global
20:32.54CIA-22threat generated is then divided by the number of mobs in the encounter. Mob
20:32.54CIA-22count is automatically set back to 1 after you've been out of combat for 5
20:32.55CIA-22seconds, so there's no need to watch for and handle death events. Modules
20:32.59CIA-22automatically unload on boss death.
20:33.03sbuNightHawkTheSane: where is my pie?
20:33.13kergothNightHawkTheSane, assessment is a damage meter / threat frontend that Roartindon is doing, quite nice, can do multiple windows out of the box
20:33.15NightHawkTheSanesbu: >.> uh... *points at nymbia*
20:33.23nymbia~flee
20:33.36purlACTION runs away screaming
20:33.37Antiarc|WorkAlso in that commit but trimmed:
20:33.38Antiarc|Work- Added :StartFight to the NPC module core; override this in modules to implement a state reset.
20:33.41Antiarc|Work- Updated the existing NPC modules to take advantage of these new features.
20:33.45Antiarc|Work- Added NPC module enable/activation code
20:33.47RoartindonNightHawkTheSane: It's a tag-based damage meter
20:33.50Antiarc|Work- All 100% pure untested drycode goodness! :V
20:33.55jmeany of you happen to play on stormreaver-us?
20:33.57NightHawkTheSaneRoartindon: tag based? eh?
20:34.18RoartindonNightHawkTheSane: The modules gather data and provide tags, the user interface displays any combination of what you select
20:34.28NightHawkTheSaneInteresting.
20:34.35RoartindonNightHawkTheSane: eg. if you want healing, it's [healingdone]. if you want total healing, it's [healingdone + overHealingDone]
20:34.39sbuAntiarc|Work: mh - mob count? wtf :)
20:34.41Punkie`Like some crazy ingame pivot table?
20:34.48sbuAntiarc|Work: how? ;)
20:34.55RoartindonThings like threat per second or healing per second become trivial to show.. they're just [healingDone/combattime]
20:35.00NightHawkTheSaneRoartindon: huh, i'll have to check it out at some point. Tags are the new black, it seems ;)
20:35.01Antiarc|Worksbu: Only for specific encounters where mob numbers and phase transitions are known.
20:35.13Antiarc|Worksbu: For example, you know you start Mag with 6 mobs - mag + 5 channelers
20:35.19RoartindonNightHawkTheSane: Well, I wrote the TagCompiler used in Aloft with a mind to make it usable to other addons
20:35.20sbuahh ok
20:35.25Antiarc|WorkI'm not counting infernals right now, but you could
20:35.37Antiarc|WorkYou can register combatants to a fight so that when they die, callbacks get called.
20:35.38sbuand death -> $mob--
20:35.40Antiarc|WorkRight.
20:35.45NightHawkTheSaneRoartindon: *nod*
20:36.13Antiarc|WorkIt's not perfect, but it's better than a static assumption of "1"
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20:36.54RoartindonNightHawkTheSane: It's very very primitive/early at this stage.. the addon was only started 2 days ago
20:37.06sbuAntiarc|Work: yup
20:37.40NightHawkTheSanegahh
20:39.03Sarozftw
20:39.15Antiarc|WorkRoartindon: Does Assessment do TPS?
20:39.21Antiarc|WorkAnd if so, do you have code I can steal for Omen?
20:39.36RoartindonAntiarc|Work: Only does it in terms of a tag
20:39.36NightHawkTheSanethe bitchy thing is that my last three jobs have all been internal stuff that i simply cannot show to anyone else. ><
20:39.42Roartindonas in, [threat/combatTime]
20:39.46Antiarc|WorkAh, ok.
20:39.47Roartindonand my combatTime code sucks atm
20:40.01RoartindonSteal anything you like out of assessment .. not sure there's too much interesting there tho :)
20:40.06NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: in fact, a majority of work you do unless you work with open source is in that situation
20:40.10RoartindonJust a combination of libraries how I want them :)
20:40.40RoartindonAntiarc|Work: Also, getting some interesting threat readings for players that have both KLHTM and Threat-1.0 installed
20:40.44NeoTronRoartindon: so hps/tps using the full time probably isnt interesting
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20:40.49RoartindonFirstly, IsForeign thing is reporting true....
20:40.53NeoTroninstead you should do a rolling average
20:40.53RoartindonAnd some of the threat seems to be repeated
20:41.17Antiarc|WorkRoartindon: Hrm. I didn't test them side-by-side last night, but Threat should be ignoring threat from KTM with both installed. I'll double check it tonight.
20:41.23Antiarc|WorkThanks for the report.
20:41.58Roartindonnp, thanks for Threat-1.0 btw.. glad you started it :)
20:42.44sbuoh
20:42.55RoartindonAntiarc|Work: Yeah, just double checked, IsUsingForeignThreatSource() for a player that has both is returning true
20:42.57Jagobahooo
20:43.01Jagobahwhat could DBM be??
20:43.03RoartindonAnd seems to be providing odd results
20:43.11Antiarc|WorkRoartindon: Ok, great. Should be trivial enough to fix then.
20:43.13sbuAntiarc|Work: mmo-champions have your armory tools?
20:43.17Antiarc|Worksbu: Yes
20:45.29NeoTronJagobah: Deadly Boss Mods?
20:45.58SarozAnyone using Bongos2?
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20:46.40Punkie`zomg fridaynight post your UI, gogogo!
20:47.04hyperChipmunki posted mine earlier!
20:47.24Punkie`I didn't see it :(
20:47.53hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/omenpet.jpg
20:48.43NeoTronwhat friday night is ui night? :-P
20:48.58Punkie`it is now!
20:49.10Punkie`and hC, damn you have a weird setup!
20:49.11hyperChipmunksee, you can clearly see where omen is totally not working =p
20:49.13JagobahOh is Deadly Boss Mods some kinda bigwigs ripoff?
20:49.21Punkie`huggeeeeeeeee minimap!
20:49.21hyperChipmunkwhy does everybody say that? =\
20:49.29hyperChipmunkthe next thing you're going to say is...
20:49.38hyperChipmunkyep
20:49.39hyperChipmunklol
20:49.58hyperChipmunkpvp hunter
20:50.09hyperChipmunk<3 huge minimap
20:50.15Jagobahwhat a very unique UI!
20:50.18Punkie`You already told me once about your huge buttons to the bottom left
20:50.25AwaaBenny Hill tactic work very well on Netherspite :o, in baich phase, everone just runs around him in circles. No one died :D
20:50.30hyperChipmunkeven though i don't pvp much anymore =\
20:50.51RoartindonhyperChipmunk: ugh.. 8 fps?
20:50.57Betahacksis there any addon that allows you to link items with a suffix?
20:51.08Betahackslike [blah blah of the bandit]
20:51.11hyperChipmunknot usually like that =p
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20:51.49Jagobah(03:43:34PM) <Saroz> Anyone using Bongos2?
20:51.53JagobahI use Bongos2 what is up
20:52.01Sarozworks good?
20:52.40Kalman|Has a little lag on range detection, but seems to work well for me, Saroz.
20:52.42Roartindonawaa: Even easier
20:52.47Roartindonif you run to the far north of hte room
20:52.51Roartindonyou outrange his aura and his breaths
20:52.58Roartindonwhich is basically the old tactic, but not through the door
20:53.26BetahacksSaroz: i'm using bongos2 too
20:53.37Betahacksw/o any problems
20:55.03Sarozkk
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21:00.01SarozKalman|, lag on range? bad
21:00.35Kalman|Well, I should specify: after you target a unit, it seems to take ~1/4 second to check range; once it's targeted, range checks seem to occur more often.
21:00.52Kalman|It doesn't cause client lag, it just delays the detection.
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21:03.09hypetechhas anybody noticed better performance when making the switch from ag_uf to pitbull?
21:03.21jmeer
21:03.28KeiasThat'd all depend on what modules you're running
21:03.54hypetechhmm
21:03.59hypetechI'll check it out
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21:05.07CIA-2203kergoth * r37998 10Assessment/Modules/UserInterface.lua: Assessment: respond to the SharedMedia_SetGlobal event, so the statusbar textures obey the !SurfaceControl addon.
21:05.29hypetechalso, does anybody know how to make bigwigs show the timer bars if you aren't actually in the boss fight, but you are in the raid like DBM does? I just can't make the switch from DBM to BigWigs :( I keep trying, but I keep missing DBM features
21:05.57CIA-2203roartindon * r37999 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: Assessment: Threat now handles targetName == "GLOBAL" and threatValue == 0 to properly wipe the meters
21:06.47Roartindonhypetech: It does, as long as BigWigs is enabled
21:06.52Roartindonit could be on standby?
21:07.16RoartindonAt least, I sat outside karazhan a couple of weeks ago and saw the timers... well, the synced ones I guess
21:07.21Roartindonnot those triggered by yells/etc.
21:07.27hypetechnah, it's enabled. I made sure of that, and even went down to activate that encounter
21:07.55vhaarrhypetech: Unlike DBM, BigWigs doesn't trigger cross-client communication for stuff it doesn't need to.
21:08.15hypetechbut if I'm using DBM and my raid goes to fight say maiden, I could be in orgrimmar and still see the timer bars and everything as if I was in the fight, and I like that so that I can still feed information on vent to those that don't know the encounter
21:08.23vhaarrhypetech: You can't get that with BW.
21:08.28Laricin violation there seems to be a problem with syncing damage done... it syncs everything else.. any other violation user is invisible on the damage done
21:08.28vhaarrWe won't let you.
21:08.30RoartindonYeah, that's kind of stupid to sync that
21:08.38Roartindonbecause everyone in the fight gets a very clear repentance
21:08.58ArrowmasterDBM syncs everything
21:09.12vhaarrThat's what I just said.
21:09.12hypetechright, but not everybody knows when it's coming. If I'm the only RA/RL in the raid with a boss mod, I still need to be able to announce during the fight
21:09.39Arrowmasterim perty sure the only way it works in two locales is that it listens for the syncs instead of actually being localized
21:09.41vhaarrhypetech: What does that have to do with this?
21:09.49hypetechwhen I am in the fight though, I prefer bigwigs to DBM
21:09.55hypetechvhaarr: have to do with what?
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21:10.10JaxonIf you are leading a raid, why aren't you in the fight?
21:10.19vhaarrhypetech: You're whining that you don't get boss messages when you're not in the zone, what does that have to do with broadcasting stuff when you're actually there?
21:10.20Arrowmasterbigwigs isnt designed for you to not be at the fight
21:10.21hypetechsitting for people who need the gear
21:10.39vhaarrhypetech: BigWigs actually *has* a design, as opposed to DBM which is just a load of shit.
21:10.41hypetechvhaarr: no, I'm saying that with DBM I can broadcast without being there
21:10.57vhaarrhypetech: You won't get what you're asking for.
21:10.58vhaarrYou can't do that.
21:10.58hypetechlol
21:10.58Arrowmasterbigwigs will never be designed for you to not be at the fight
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21:12.04JaxonIf someone else has Bigwigs, give them raid assist and have them turn on broadcast.
21:12.06JaxonProblem solved.
21:12.23vhaarrOr just be present in your own raid.
21:12.28Jaxon^^
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21:12.41vhaarrI don't think this is worth the time it takes to write my responses, give me actual bug reports instead.
21:12.54hypetechvhaarr: it's only when I sit for someone that needs gear from that particular boss
21:12.56Arrowmasteror just get the rest of your raid members to run a bossmod instead of relying on raidwarnings
21:13.06JaxonIf you raiders can't read simple bars on their own screen, then you've got a bigger problem than a lack of timers on your own screen.
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21:13.56hypetechJaxon: a bar on your screen that counts down something called "flame wreath" doesn't help if you have no idea what to do when the bar hits zero
21:14.20JaxonThats why you take 2 minutes and explain the fight to the people before you pull.  This is a social problem and not a technical one.
21:14.32Arrowmasterhypetech: maybe you should stop raiding with people that have downs
21:14.35NightHawkTheSane... if they don't know that, then you have massively bigger problems than any mod problems :P{
21:14.35hypetechlol
21:15.16hypetechalright, aside from all of that. can you do custom timers in bigwigs and have them show up for everyone else using bigwigs if you are RL?
21:15.23Roartindonyes
21:15.26hypetechcool
21:15.29Roartindonuse /bwcb <time> <message>
21:15.33hypetechk
21:15.35Arrowmastertime is in seconds
21:15.40KillmoreFlame Wreath ? This is when you need to run inside a donnut in fire before the end ?! :P
21:15.43hypetechany chance that people using DBM will see those timers?
21:15.48Arrowmasterno
21:16.05hypetechhmm. k
21:16.23Arrowmasterunless DBM decides to start listening for them, which i doubt will ever happen
21:16.46hypetechif I'm using bigwigs, and somebody makes a custom timer in DBM, will I see that?
21:16.53Arrowmasterno
21:17.26GandharvaAntiarc|Work: Got this error right after login -> http://ace.pastey.net/47981
21:17.48hypetechok
21:18.05hypetechLike I said, I really like bigwigs, I'm just trying to figure out how to bridge the gap.
21:18.14vhaarrI fail to see any gap.
21:18.18hypetechlol
21:18.21NightHawkTheSanetell your guild to use bigwigs, no gap.
21:18.35Antiarc|WorkThanks, Gandharva
21:19.14nekohAntiarc|Work: i got a few false behavior for you again :X
21:19.17hypetechIs there a timer for attunmen's curse cooldown btw? I didn't see one with bigwigs when we did midnight last time.
21:19.26Antiarc|Worknekoh: Lemme have it! :D
21:19.52grennondoes anyone really need a cooldown timer for attunmen?
21:20.07hypetechit's good for a mage to anticipate the curse
21:20.16CIA-2203antiarc * r38000 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: Threat-1.0: Nilled the wrong table. Oops.
21:20.40Killmorehypetech: timer is there, I believe
21:20.53Arrowmastertheres a curse announcement, no timer
21:21.00CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r38001 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
21:21.00CIA-22FuBar_TrainerFu:
21:21.00CIA-22- Localization fixes (again :-P)
21:21.00CIA-22- Fixed demon trainer mapnote never was added bug
21:21.25vhaarrhypetech: What is the cooldown, I'll add it tomorrow.
21:22.04nekohfirst: when buffs (and debuffs) change you rescan all your buffs and call ClassBuffs["somebuff"] again, this is no problem for buffs that change buffmodifier, but its a problem for buffs, that look for the "fading" argument, like Fade. so when you fade and while fading, your buffs change, you call ClassBuffs["Fade"] again with fading = nil and you get another threat reduction
21:22.32nekohi mean priests fade ability
21:22.51nekohor mages invis (which restarts the startfadetimer
21:23.21nekohso you have to track that in these methods (that make use of the fading argument)
21:23.39kergothhyperChipmunk, http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/assessment1.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 - opinion of the layout?
21:24.15CIA-2203roartindon * r38002 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: Assessment: Uses Threat.GlobalTarget rather than hard-coded "GLOBAL" string
21:24.42hyperChipmunkoh that's much more pleasing =)
21:24.43aen`ehh
21:24.48aen`too messy righti n the middle imo
21:25.14hypetechvharr: AoE Curse: Casts every 30 seconds a wide-area curse that reduces chance to hit with melee and ranged attacks and spells by 50%. Can be removed by mages and druids.
21:25.29Antiarc|Worknekoh: Aha, good catch. Thank you.
21:25.29kergothstill a bit crowded in the middle indeed, but my eyes suck, i need stuff near the center to keep an eye on it.  not sure how to improve the layout in the middle given that.  maybe move the unitframe bits down a bit
21:25.35hyperChipmunki'd move those top three down to straddle your bar
21:25.51Silviu-roartindon what was Assessment again ?
21:26.03hyperChipmunkand move the whole thing down as far as you can
21:26.07aen`http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/502/ui1aa7.jpg
21:26.11kergoth<3 my boar, i had no idea just how effective his charge stun was at producing initial threat
21:26.15Roartindonkergoth: I added the shadow and outline options for you too ... hopefully they work :)
21:26.17Killmorekergoth: what is the mod you have on the left side of the screen ? seem to be a combat log with logo
21:26.20kergothRoartindon, they do, thanks :)
21:26.26kergothKillmore, that's EavesDrop
21:26.46RoartindonSilviu-: Tag based combat monitor addon
21:27.01hyperChipmunkmy default eye position is about 3/4 down the monitor
21:27.15hyperChipmunk'under' my player
21:27.39TecnoBratdid the FF victory song go out of bigwigs? or did it just get disabled by default now?
21:28.35hypetechlol. I must be getting jaded, I don't like buff bars as much as I used to. I just prefer the icon with a timer under it now ^_^
21:28.38nekohAntiarc|Work: second ^^: with taunting .. you lookup your own and the targettargets threat, BUT you're not getting the mobs threat only, you get "mobThreat + globalThreat" .. the problem is, that when you reset the threat, you set the targetThreat to the just returned "mobThreat + globalThreat" (so it is always your old globalThreat to big) ... you can fix this be reducting this new threat by the amount your globalThreat here
21:28.43snurrehttp://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5750/wowscrnshot053007215448dr2.jpg
21:28.57hyperChipmunkkergoth: charge supposedly has an additional threat modifier; if you can figure something out about it, please add it to the pet module
21:29.01hypetechI swear one day I'll come full circle and I'll have a default UI except for KTM
21:29.18aen`snurre: too much black wasted space
21:29.49deltronaen`: hah i should show you my raiding screen
21:29.54hypetechsnurre: is that quartz you're using for the dots?
21:30.01snurreneh, only real wasted space the background of the chat log imo
21:30.13snurrehypetech: yep
21:30.15Antiarc|Worknekoh: Aha, excellent. Thank you.
21:30.31kergothsome sort of visual indicator of how close i am to pulling aggro off the tank might be useful, like if i jumped above his threat but hadn't yet reached the % necessary to pull aggro.. i dunno how ktm does it, havent used it much
21:30.49nekohsure thing
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21:31.20Roartindonkergoth: Planning to add it :)
21:31.20kergothsnurre, what raidframes are you using there?
21:31.27Ominouskergoth: still think those action bars cld be made nocer
21:31.28snurrepitbull
21:31.29Ominousnicer*
21:31.40kergothah
21:32.04deltronheh you really like the glossy skin eh?
21:33.00Ominoushow is assement better than violation?
21:33.12snurrewouldve had the litestep texture on ktm too, but im too lazy to edit the files every time i update it
21:33.37kergothit's tag based and supports multiple windows out of the box.. also has tons of options in general, font of each text item, etc
21:35.51CIA-2203antiarc * r38003 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: Changed the first parameter passed to ClassBuffs - is now an integer indicating action. See the "Fade" priest method and the "Master Demonologist" Warlock method for usage details.
21:36.12deltronsnurre: heh you run at the same res as I do
21:36.22kergothwonder if a HUD would be a bit cleaner around the center of my screen than the pitbull frames
21:36.41deltronI never cared for the HUD's
21:36.50deltronfrom a healer standpoint
21:36.51Ominouskergoth: that bars would get too closterd with all that info imo
21:37.06Ominousplayer, target, pet, targettarget, pettarget isnt it?
21:37.45kergothyeah, true
21:38.15Ominouscan you imagine each unit having a different set of curley bars and not getting confused
21:38.16kergothcould probably drop pettarget and just focus
21:38.16kergothhehe
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21:38.29cynyranyone here using dreamchat?
21:39.02deltroncellular here
21:39.06hyperChipmunki use a combination
21:39.22hyperChipmunkhud for self,pet, target, with pitbulls for everything around the edges
21:39.28kergothcellular here as well.. i like dreamchat, but it doesnt seem quite up to par for regular use
21:39.48deltroncellular needs a right-click function on the nick
21:39.50kergothhyperChipmunk, what hud do you use?
21:39.52AKXIt's in development, what do you expect.. :)
21:39.53deltronso I can report spammers :P
21:39.59AKXWell, stagnant development, at least.
21:40.02cynyrkergoth: i was noticing that..
21:40.05kergothdeltron, god no kidding, those buttons on the side to try to reproduce that functionality are annoying imo
21:40.19cynyrAKX: yea i know, i was hoping thos that i could at least move the chat window
21:40.26AKXYou can
21:40.31deltronkergoth: yep, that's the only beef I have with cellular, otherwise it's fucking rad
21:40.32AKXUpper left corner
21:40.44AKXJust next to the menu button, cynyr.
21:40.47cynyrAKX: ohh
21:40.48kergothdeltron, i like that its so dead simple, compared to the competition (WIM, chatr, etc)
21:40.50cynyrfound it
21:40.52kergothjust the basics
21:40.59AKXPsh, kergoth, Chatr is simple too =(
21:41.07deltronlol
21:41.08kergothhehe. i used chatr for a -long- time
21:42.43cynyrAKX: second question how do i delete a window?
21:43.05AKXcynyr: You don't. In Chatr, windows delete YOU!!
21:43.20AKX*DreamChat, too.
21:43.21cynyrAKX: no in dreamchat
21:43.24AKXYeah.
21:43.25AKXWell.
21:44.05cynyrso no way to delete the windows in dreamchat?
21:44.17AKXWell, no button for it
21:45.00Dottedhmm can i post another authors addon on the svn? i have his permission to do so, but im wondering if i ccan?'
21:45.03cynyr<PROTECTED>
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21:46.03AKXcynyr, no.. But you may.. possibly, perhaps, be able to use something like /script DreamChat.frames[2]=nil; ReloadUI()
21:46.22deltroncynyr: eh why not use cellular? :P
21:46.53cynyrAKX: ahh okay
21:47.55cynyrdeltron: well cause if it( as it seems was said a bit ago) cannot be right clicked on names, that would be a deal breaker for me...
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21:47.55deltronugh i have so much scripting I have to do in vbscript :(
21:47.55deltroncynyr: heh :) yeah
21:48.33Gagoriankek server first vashj
21:49.19SaladinAKX: ha-HA!
21:49.25cynyrGagorian: i'm not sure anyone on my server is even in SSC /cry
21:49.34Adirelle[Ammo], I've thought to funny things about Violation and DM input :/
21:49.51AKXSaladin: ha-Ha-HA!
21:50.17cynyrAKX: is there a way to remove it from the savedvaruibles file?
21:50.27AKXYes. Edit the SavedVariables file. :D
21:51.18cynyrAKX: okay, so if i tried hacking a slash command in that did that.....
21:51.32AKXHold on.
21:52.05CIA-2203roartindon * r38004 10Assessment/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Assessment: Pulled out user interface options into a different file because the majority of file was getting filled up with aceoptions tables
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21:54.04AKXcynyr: /script DreamChatDB.namespaces.DreamChat2=nil;
21:54.23AKXThat would clear the settings for frame #2.
21:55.14cynyrAKX: okay, maybe later tonight i'll try hacing in a slash command to do something like that(it's going to be very very messy)
21:55.29CIA-2203shieldb * r38005 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added Shade of Leotheras
21:56.46AKXWell cynyr, I could just implement it officially at some point too :D
21:56.46kergothAdirelle, curious, did you ever verify that combat log range changing works again?
21:56.47Adirellekergoth: nop :p
21:56.47mjc_anyone have any screenshots of assessment/omen in use ? trying to convince my boss to start hacking Lua and he's interested but we don't have a copy of wow at work
21:56.47Adirelleat worst Violation_CBR is just useless :p
21:57.22nekohAntiarc|Work: syntax error in Hutermodule on line 61: "then" missing (don't know if you already checked for that), also you renamed parameter faded to action in buffChanged(), but didn't change any of its references
21:57.47Antiarc|WorkDoh
21:57.53AdirelleAntiarc|Work: I'm working on the pet module again, I've yet to test it
21:57.53Antiarc|WorkLack of testing platform for the lose!
21:58.03nekoh:)
21:58.45Antiarc|Workmjc: http://i10.tinypic.com/4uw865d.jpg
21:58.59Antiarc|WorkThat's Omen displaying local data from Omen and foreign data from KTM
21:59.17CIA-2203dotted * r38006 10Recap/ (24 files):
21:59.17CIA-22Recap: initial commit
21:59.17CIA-22- Recap is a dmg-meter made by Gello, now maintained by Hawksy
21:59.17CIA-22- By popular demand of the Recap users, i have uploaded it here, with permission by Hawksy!
21:59.17CIA-22- I coudnt find anything against the rules doing this, so dont kill me :)
21:59.21Adirellekeergoth: btw, I don't know how to test the combat log range :/
21:59.30kergothhrm
21:59.45Chompers.\AddOns\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Hunter.lua line 62:   'then' expected near 'self'
21:59.52Chompersdid i do something wrong?
22:00.08Sarozweeeeeee Recap in SVN
22:00.18Diaoo_o
22:00.20sbukill Dotted!
22:00.23nekoh!!
22:00.25deltronlolwut?
22:00.26Diaoi thought cryect was working on recap's replacement :O
22:00.26CIA-2203ulic * r38007 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Hunter.lua: Threat-1.0: added missing 'then' to an 'elseif'
22:00.33deltronDotted: nowai!!!
22:00.36Keiasboth Diao :P
22:00.44Diaooh
22:00.44Dotted:D
22:00.48deltronheh
22:01.02deltroni thought recap was abandoned
22:01.27Chompers.AddOns\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua line 191:   attempt to index field 'encounterEnemies'
22:01.28mjcmuch rather recount lately
22:01.37ulicheeh, was just about to paste that one
22:02.12ulica missing then is easy to fix, that one requires more knowledge then I have so far :)
22:02.56Dotteddeltron search for Recap on curse, look for the Hawksy one
22:03.26Adirellefunny thing... know that I may have DM input working, I realize that if I use it, both data from combatlog and DM will sum up
22:04.36deltronDotted: ahh interesting :)
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22:05.02hypetechPitbull is still saying AFK on the party frame even if the character isn't AFK anymore :p
22:05.02Dottedlets see if i can get the externals set up correctly ^^
22:05.53cynyrAKX: also have to set Profiles.Default.numframes to -1 of what it was
22:06.05AKXYeah.
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22:06.34cynyrlooked at the saved vars file for it
22:07.08CIA-2203antiarc * r38008 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
22:07.08CIA-22Threat-1.0:
22:07.08CIA-22- Fixed a problem with the buff action not being passed to buff handlers
22:07.08CIA-22- Fixed an initialization problem in the NPC core
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22:10.48sbuAntiarc: please fix that localization problem, thats the last thing preventing me from distributing omen/threat to my guild ;p
22:11.07Antiarc|Worksbu: The last thing preventing you from distributing it should be the fact that it's not done ;)
22:11.12Antiarc|WorkBut yes, it's on the list.
22:11.32sbunot done? its working good enough to do so ;p
22:11.42sbuat least good enough for them :p
22:12.06hyperChipmunkThreatNPCModuleCore.lua:196:attempt to call method 'RegisterParserEvent' (a nil value)
22:12.08Adirelleerm, antiarc, parser-1.1 compat is still missing, or sth's going wrong here ?
22:12.15Adirelle(like hyperChipmunk)
22:13.02CIA-2203dotted * r38009 10Recap/Recap.toc:
22:13.02CIA-22Recap:
22:13.02CIA-22- Fix TOC
22:13.02CIA-22- Add externals
22:13.07Antiarc|WorkHrm. Not sure. NPC core doesn't have parser-1.1 capability yet though.
22:13.53Antiarc|WorkTo hit that code, though, useParser30 would have to be true, which should mean that parser-3.0 is mixed in.
22:13.58Antiarc|WorkOoh, I know.
22:14.01ChompersAntiarc: did you see my encounterEnemies error?
22:14.22nekohhe fixed it
22:14.26nekohget the latest :P
22:14.28Chompersoh right, cool
22:14.29CIA-2203antiarc * r38010 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Added Parser-3.0 to the NPC module mixin list.
22:14.33Antiarc|WorkChompers: Yes, and fixed.
22:14.39Chompersthanks Antiarc :D
22:14.51Chompersi'd do the heart emote, but i dont know how
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22:16.35Antiarc|Work<3
22:16.39Dottedthx Kaelten
22:16.49Kaeltennp
22:18.21cynyrlol, /script ChatFrame1:Hide() leaves the tab visable
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22:19.09Adirelleas intended, my Pet module rewrite bugged at the first pet action
22:19.56CIA-2203ammo * r38011 10Violation/textures/ (next.tga prev.tga): Violation: clean up prev and next icons
22:20.47[Ammo]MikkZzz: new violation icon looks sexey
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22:23.42CIA-2203ammo * r38012 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix problem with startCombat vs StartCombat
22:23.52cynyrnow, if i could get kEnergy to show up for me...
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22:26.24Dottedehh howcome there is no externals for Recap on the SVN, i have added svn:externals as according to the SVN for Beginners article :/?
22:26.51hyperChipmunkdid you commit it as such?
22:27.06KyahxAntiarc: A few people in my guild are getting really excited about Threat / Omen, is there an offical place you want me to point them for bug reports?  Trac page?
22:27.12Dottedpretty sure i did
22:27.42hyperChipmunkheh
22:27.47sbuKyahx: uhm - you could be the bug point?
22:27.55hyperChipmunkklh must be REALLY awful
22:27.56Antiarc|WorkKyahx: Uhm...lemme see. I don't have an official place yet - I've just been collecting reports from IRC and the Wowace forums
22:28.01hyperChipmunker, ktm
22:28.07Antiarc|WorkThere's the wowace trac, of course
22:28.10hyperChipmunki've only looked at the code, but
22:28.21[Ammo]Antiarc|Work: hmm my last commit didn't fix it
22:28.25[Ammo]just triggered another error :p
22:28.32Adirellehmm... I ripped some data from the KTM pet module, would a note be sufficient ?
22:28.33hyperChipmunkfrom a user perspective, for it to still be so loathed...
22:28.36Antiarc|Work[Ammo]: What is it? I'll take a look at it.
22:28.49cynyrhyperChipmunk: from what i have heard, noone wants to touch writing an imported/exporter for ktm/swstats
22:28.51Antiarc|WorkAdirelle: I'm not bothering with ripped data. Just making sure to not ripe actual code.
22:28.56Antiarc|WorkData's "public domain" for the most part.
22:29.05Adirelleno code, just data
22:29.11Antiarc|WorkYeah, I wouldn't bother.
22:29.24CIA-2203neriak * r38013 10Fence/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
22:29.24CIA-22Fence:
22:29.24CIA-22- added forum hotfix for the Autofill module (not sure if this fixes everything tho)
22:29.24CIA-22- changed descriptions for all modules
22:29.24CIA-22- permanently removed deprecated Wipe module
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22:31.23CIA-2203neriak * r38014 10Fence/Core.lua: Fence: touched Core.lua for rev date strings
22:31.35Antiarc|Work[Ammo]: What new error did you get?
22:31.37CIA-2203adirelle * r38015 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Pet.lua:
22:31.37CIA-22Threat-1.0:
22:31.37CIA-22- Pet: fixed threat scaling for pet under level 60,
22:31.37CIA-22- Pet: added threat scaling for warlock pets.
22:32.23[Ammo]ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua:196: Parser-3.0: Bad argument #2 to `RegisterParserEvent'. eventType must be either "Damage", "Heal", "Environmental", "Miss", "Death", "Cast", "Drain", "Durability", "Durability", "Interrupt", "Dispel", "Leech", "Fail", "Enchant", "Reputation", "Honor", "Experience", "Fade", "Gain", "Aura", "Feed Pet", "Create", or "Unknown" (currently "nil")
22:32.26[Ammo]which is kinda weird
22:32.29krkawhere do you draw the line between code and data?
22:33.20abyssichateckknight: Did you have the time to look into the aura buff/debuff highlighting issue yet?
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22:34.41TecnoBratkrka, easy
22:34.50TecnoBratthe fact that the threat value for sunder is X
22:34.52TecnoBratthats data
22:34.55krkaright
22:34.57TecnoBrathow to apply that to the mod, thats code
22:35.19krkabut if you're ripping out a full table of known values, that's more like copying code than data
22:35.28krkai think it depends on how much is copied verbatim
22:35.40CIA-2203kalman * r38016 10DotDotDot/ (Core.lua DotDotDot.toc libs/):
22:35.40CIA-22DotDotDot: Fixed-time DoT monitor.
22:35.40CIA-22<PROTECTED>
22:35.40CIA-22<PROTECTED>
22:35.40CIA-22<PROTECTED>
22:35.41CIA-22<PROTECTED>
22:35.41krkathe data itself is public, yes, but the organization of the data may not be
22:35.42TecnoBrattook the data out
22:35.51TecnoBratand wrote the table by hand
22:36.32DottedhyperChipmunk you have to doSVN Update to get externals?
22:36.33CIA-2203shieldb * r38017 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/SerpentshrineCavern/Leotheras.lua: Threat-1.0: Added Leotheras the Blind - wipes threat on whirlwind, demon phase, and image split
22:36.41hyperChipmunkyes
22:36.44Dottedah
22:37.22Dottedso now i have externals in my local version, i need to delete those right?
22:37.46Antiarc|WorkKyahx: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6480.msg107176
22:38.08Chompersshould've reported my errors there then
22:38.17Adirellethe new violation icon is really nice
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22:39.32Dottedso now i have externals in my local version, i need to delete those right? hyperChipmunk, it isnt made clear from the guide so im just asking to be on the safe side
22:39.59CIA-2203kagaro * r38018 10Cartographer_Treasure/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer_Treasure: aded new icons for crystals and shards
22:40.37hyperChipmunkwhen i do it, i just delete everything out of my lib directory and do an svn update to get a fresh svn-only copy of the externals
22:40.41CIA-2203antiarc * r38019 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (BUG_REPORTS.txt ThreatBuffsData.lua ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua):
22:40.41CIA-22Threat-1.0: Fixed a parser registration problem. Ping ckk about this - would be nice to have the API support the way I had it.
22:40.41CIA-22- Added bug reporting information
22:41.02hyperChipmunkif you use standalone or something, then you can just delete them I supposeo
22:41.22hyperChipmunkand when you update, specify no externals (svn --no-externals update)
22:41.26hypetechHow effective is KTMCPUManager?
22:41.43KarlThePaganlooks like it turns off KTM when you're not in a group
22:42.07hyperChipmunkwhat's that adage
22:42.19hyperChipmunkyou can't make a something something from a sow's something
22:42.33Dottedi didnt quite get that at all, sorry :/
22:42.36KarlThePagan{silk purse,ear}
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22:42.42Antiarc|Workhypetech: It works just fine for what it does, but it isn't going to fix KTM's excessive usage in combat.
22:42.42hyperChipmunkthere ya go
22:42.50hyperChipmunki knew silk was in there somewhere
22:43.04KarlThePagansouthern american upbringing for the... win?
22:43.15hypetechantiarc: hehe, I'm waiting for omen :-p
22:43.23KarlThePaganyes pls
22:43.55Antiarc|WorkIt's coming, it's coming :P
22:44.01KarlThePaganbut I'm kind of itching for a threatlib option to only accumulate threat on the player's current target
22:44.04KarlThePaganbut I can wait
22:44.21KarlThePaganjust for those stupid 10 of the same mob encounters
22:44.52DottedhyperChipmunk i should just keep the Libs folder in my dev folder or what :/?
22:45.11KarlThePaganprobably just plain wouldn't work... but I can dream
22:46.00hyperChipmunkDotted: won't hurt
22:46.09Dottedhmm ok
22:47.10CIA-2203roartindon * r38020 10Assessment/Modules/ (UserInterface.lua UserInterfaceOptions.lua): Assessment: Fixed additional window creation that got broken when files were separated
22:47.25Dottedhow do you commit to the SVN without changing a file?
22:47.42hyperChipmunkwhat do you mean?
22:47.51RoartindonDotted: Why would you commit to svn if you have nothing to commit?
22:47.52FtH|Daemonahmm whats assessment doing?
22:47.55nekohchanging externals
22:47.56hyperChipmunkif you change just properties, it's the same as changing a file
22:47.57FtH|Daemona*curious*
22:47.59nekohi guess
22:48.02Dottedto fix externals :/
22:48.08hyperChipmunksame way
22:48.10hyperChipmunksvn commit
22:48.15RoartindonIf you change a property, then it's marked as a changed file for committing
22:48.17Dottedbut i cant
22:48.35Dottedbut the zipscript arent embedding externals
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22:48.56TecnoBratAsssessment = ??
22:49.09DottedTecnoBrat damage/threat meter
22:49.11Flexomhehe, Maulgar just pugged on EU_Silvermoon^^
22:49.19kenlyricit turns out that the little plug that provides power to the video card... is important.
22:49.24kenlyricmy helpful tip of the day.
22:49.27Antiarc|Workhahah
22:49.27Flexomlol
22:49.28Antiarc|Workyes
22:49.29DottedLOL
22:49.31TecnoBrataaahhh
22:49.37TecnoBratLOL
22:49.38hyperChipmunkok, who broke misdirection =\
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22:50.06hyperChipmunkalso, HA-ha
22:50.16CIA-2203ammo * r38021 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: slow release apparatus
22:50.21kenlyricoddly enough, it still worked... it just didn't like rendering WoW
22:50.52Kalman|kenlyric: Did it work in other games, or just in 2D?
22:50.59DottedhyperChipmunk the zipscript arent embedding the externals
22:51.00Roartindonkenlyric: probably enough power to render desktop, but not for heavy 3d
22:51.04Dotted*isnt
22:51.04kenlyricI only tried GTA San Andreas, and that worked fine.
22:51.17RoartindonDotted: what addon is it?
22:51.21DottedRecap
22:51.23hyperChipmunkdid you commit it with externals?
22:51.36hyperChipmunkmore than 30m ago
22:51.51hyperChipmunki don't know about the zipscript =\
22:51.59TecnoBratzipscript runs every 20 mins .. 00, 20, 40 :)
22:52.00Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: svn blame
22:52.08Antiarc|Work(I'll save you the trouble - it was me)
22:52.21Dottedthe svn properties have been setup as accoring to the svn for beginners guide
22:52.22Antiarc|Workbrb.
22:52.22hyperChipmunkfiend
22:52.41Dottedi then did a commit with the properties set
22:52.51Dottedbut no externals there
22:52.59Roartindonchecking out the project now
22:53.05Roartindonto see what you've done with the externals :)
22:53.14TecnoBratDotted, svn doesnt think you have any externals
22:53.16Dottedits locked to me
22:53.34Roartindonwell, ther'es no svn:externals tags on any of these files
22:53.43Roartindonor rather, directories
22:53.47TecnoBratdid you commit the root dir?
22:54.11Dottedgimme a sec
22:54.49Kalman|Anyone have any idea why WAU would seperate my addon (DotDotDot) out as a package rather than an addon?
22:57.29Dottedwww.bxd.dk/wow/svn.PNG
22:57.52cladhairetort ftl
22:57.58Dottedthat was set up after r38006
22:58.13Dottedcladhaire you suck :(
22:58.22cladhairelol whyzzat?>
22:58.34cladhairei mean i fully accept that, but i'd just your justification kpls
22:58.36Dottedbecause i say so :((((
22:58.36RoartindonDotted: go up a directory and commit the folder?
22:58.44Dottedhmm
22:58.50RoartindonIt should notice that the folder has its properties changed
22:58.53CIA-2203adirelle * r38022 10QuietCast/: QuietCast: a simple macro to mute error messages of the next spell cast.
22:59.16CIA-2203dotted * r38023 10Recap/:
22:59.16CIA-22Recap:
22:59.17CIA-22- fix externals
22:59.21RoartindonThere we go :)
22:59.27Dottedyay
22:59.31Dottedthx
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23:01.28nekohAntiarc|Work: just use "self.ModifyThreat = ModifyThreat" in ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua, you dont need to create a new function for that :)
23:01.59NimbleRabitAll of Nymbia's mods that I use (quartz, manufac, ArenaPointer) aren't loading when I sign-on and I have to find them in MCP and shift+click them to load.  He mentioned something about SavedVariables when I said this before but I was busy and can't remember how to fix it now.
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23:04.59Necrathexany ag_uf guru's here? :p
23:05.16hyperChipmunkThreatNPCModuleCore.lua:247: attempt to index field 'chatEvents' (a nil value)
23:05.21TecnoBratNecrathex, just say what you need :)
23:05.23hyperChipmunkag` knows something about them
23:05.34hyperChipmunkalso, meta-questions ftl
23:05.44NecrathexTecnoBrat: well, i got aUF_RangeCheck installed, but i can't get it to work
23:06.19hyperChipmunkgj volunteering TecnoBrat
23:06.24Necrathex:o
23:06.29CIA-2203adirelle * r38024 10QuietCast/ (. Libs/ QuietCast.lua QuietCast.toc): QuietCast: initial import.
23:06.55Necrathextried enabing, disabling, changing opacity value etc
23:07.00Necrathexnothing seems to happen
23:07.06TecnoBratwoot, I got the easy one
23:07.08hypetechIs OneBag LOD? I get a decent framerate on this computer until I open my bag, then after that it goes to hell real fast, and hangs up right before it opens the bag the first time
23:07.08TecnoBratdelete it :P
23:07.16hyperChipmunkhehe
23:07.36kergothNimbleRabit, you have supplyanddemand?
23:07.42KarlThePaganI use Grid for range checking stuff
23:07.58TecnoBratNecrathex, I assume you are wanting the "dimming" effect for out of range people?
23:08.10NecrathexTecnoBrat: that is correct yes :)
23:08.22Necrathexwell, any effect will do really :p
23:08.58CIA-2203adirelle * r38025 10QuietCast/Libs/: QuietCast: fixed external.
23:09.03TecnoBratI don't have "aUF_RangeCheck" and it does it for me by default
23:09.14TecnoBratoh wait .. I'm wrong
23:09.21hyperChipmunkmoron!
23:09.27TecnoBratI dont use dimming for aguf :P
23:09.36Necrathex!!
23:09.50NimbleRabitkergoth: yes I do
23:10.03TecnoBratI have sRaidFrames ... and it has it .. I as confused
23:10.05Antiarc|Worknekoh: My concern was the self parameter
23:10.13TecnoBrathyperChipmunk: moron is right!
23:10.32nekohmh
23:10.32Antiarc|WorkSince that'd be implied on self:ModifyThreat
23:10.32NecrathexTecnoBrat: i have sraidframes too, and hte range check on it works nice
23:10.32Necrathexbut i'd like it for aguf too :(
23:11.13nekohokay good point
23:11.23TecnoBrataUF_RangeCheck was last updated 12/13/06 .. possible it still works .. but who knows
23:11.31CIA-2203sayclub * r38026 10ClassTimer/Locales/koKR.lua: ClassTimer: koKR update
23:12.32Necrathexgetting aUF_RangeCheck_M now
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23:13.51CIA-2203roartindon * r38027 10Assessment/Modules/ (UserInterface.lua UserInterfaceOptions.lua): Assessment: Added title text color, title background color
23:13.53Necrathexwhy are there 2 mods, when the old one clearly isn't working anymore :(
23:15.30hypetechany way to make pitbull use the old shaman color instead of the new one?
23:15.57TecnoBratI wish I could make all of my mods use the old colors, heh
23:16.03TecnoBratstupid shaman color sucks
23:16.06hypetechya
23:16.22hypetechI'm color blind and I could tell them apart before
23:16.22cynyrwoo woo, i can't delete Bigwigs...
23:16.26Necrathexok, now the game crashes when i try to login ...
23:16.27hypetechdon't know why they changed it
23:16.54vithosuse ClassColors to change it back
23:16.57Antiarc|WorkCan you modify the RAID_CHAT_COLORS or whatever?
23:17.14TecnoBratAntiarc, I asked the same question
23:17.19Antiarc|WorkI liked the old one, too. Every time I see the new one I think someone just looted a rare.
23:17.24TecnoBratthe response I got was "that will cause tainting"
23:17.44TecnoBratAntiarc, it also blends in with the color of the mana bar too much also
23:18.20TecnoBratI guess I could actually try it ...
23:19.10Antiarc|WorkHahahah - http://www.myspace.com/sonsofarugal - standard Myspace sound warning, but you want to listen to this one.
23:19.27Diaothreatlib error? o_O
23:20.33TecnoBratAntiarc|Work "For The Horde 07"?
23:20.43Antiarc|Workyeah
23:20.49TecnoBratPretty good actually
23:20.51Antiarc|WorkDiao: Information please?
23:22.14DiaoAntiarc- http://ace.pastey.net/48074
23:22.26Diaojust updated a minute ago with WAU
23:23.27NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: o_0
23:24.12CIA-2203antiarc * r38028 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed inconsistent capitalization on "chatEvents".
23:27.10kergothNimbleRabit, it's something with the LoadManagers field in the .toc files, seems to act inconsistently.  either kill the loadmanagers line entirely, or just set LoadOnDemand: 1 and keep S&D loaded.
23:27.37abyssichateIs Assessment some kind of combatlog like EavesDrop?
23:28.00kergothassessment is a tag based damage meter addon
23:28.13abyssichateI see
23:31.06sz3bye
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23:31.48kergothabyssichate, http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/assessment1.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 shows assement on either side of my actionbars at the bottom.  you can see it supports multiple windows, i have it showing damage done and threat there
23:33.02cladhairekergoth: looks liek SCL, same concept?
23:34.35kergothwhat looks like scl?
23:34.54cladhaireho nvm
23:34.56cladhairelol
23:35.00cladhairei was looking at the rep gain lines
23:35.02cladhairewhats that from
23:35.19abyssichatekergoth, thanks for the screenshots, I got it now
23:35.45nekohAntiarc|Work: ping
23:36.02Antiarc|WorkPong!
23:36.44nekohMOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REQUEST & MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REPLY needs to be in .OnCommReceive ? or am i interpreting that wrong?
23:37.19Antiarc|Work...yes. Yes, they do.
23:37.23Antiarc|WorkBoy do I feel stupid now.
23:37.27nekohhehe
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23:38.18CIA-2203antiarc * r38029 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added translation requests to the ThreatLib.OnCommReceive table, like they should have been all along. Doh.
23:38.35Antiarc|Worksbu: ping
23:38.42Antiarc|Worknekoh may have just fixed the localization issue.
23:39.17nekohif not, im willing to log in on your server to debug it
23:39.42Antiarc|WorkI'm going to just hardcode in a fake locale on my laptop tonight and test it that way
23:39.54nekohhehe
23:40.23Antiarc|Workfake deDE on the laptop returning something like mobName .. "-deDE", and then the normal code on my desktop
23:40.24sbuAntiarc|Work: oh :)
23:40.36Antiarc|WorkShould let me debug it.
23:40.45nekohyea that should work
23:42.02CIA-2203roartindon * r38030 10Assessment/Modules/CombatTime.lua: Assessment: CombatTime module modified.. still to be done better later, but it's a step up
23:42.31sbuAntiarc|Work: nice timing with zip generation
23:42.33sbutesting now...
23:42.44Antiarc|WorkHeh, did I get it in just before the cronjob?
23:42.48sbuyup
23:43.08kergothcladhaire, the rep gain lines are a little addon called Rep2
23:43.12cladhaireneat
23:43.22kergothyea, simple but helpful
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23:43.47nekohsbu: if its not yet working, let me know, im willing to debug on your server
23:43.55nekoh(but it should now) :P
23:44.04sbunot working
23:44.31Adirellenight
23:44.41Antiarc|Worksbu: output of /script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpTranslationTable() ?
23:44.44sbu{}
23:44.48Antiarc|WorkBugger.
23:45.22nekohwith also someone else in your group, using latest threat-1.0 and different locale, and target a mob ?
23:45.49sbuyup
23:45.57sbudeDE vs. enUS, same mob, aggro on that mob
23:46.03sbunot working
23:46.09nekohwhat server are you on ?
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23:47.23sbukhaz'goroth
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23:48.15nekohcomin in a sec
23:48.23Roartindoncladhaire: Assessment is my little experiment into a different approach to build a damage meter addon.
23:48.31cladhaireinteresting.
23:48.38cladhairewhats so different about the approach?
23:48.42Roartindoncladhaire: It has tags.... bar values are all tags
23:48.55clad|napI'll have to take a look at it
23:48.55RoartindonSo if you want healing, its [healingDone], if you want raw healing, its [healingDone+overHealingdone]
23:50.44Roartindonif you want healing per second,  it's just [healingDone/combatTime]
23:50.44RoartindonIt has tags for all components of the display, it supports multiple windows
23:50.44RoartindonAnd it's only 2 days old, so very immature :)
23:50.44hyperChipmunkAntiarc|Work: you breaked FD too
23:50.44clad|napfun
23:50.44Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: o.0
23:50.44Antiarc|WorkIt was working last night
23:50.45Antiarc|WorkWhat broke?
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23:54.11Solegood morning
23:54.39sbunekoh: deDE client?
23:54.39nekohenGB
23:54.40nekohbut i can run as deDE
23:55.01nekohjust wait a bit until i added my debug msgs :P
23:55.23Antiarc|Worknekoh: If you find the bug, feel free to commit a fix to SVN
23:55.34Antiarc|WorkOtherwise I'll be testing tonight as well :)
23:56.04nekohi cant, no svn access :X
23:56.14deltronhmm razer and microsoft are teaming up to make hardware
23:56.23nekohbut i will tell you if i find something
23:57.15Antiarc|WorkYou should bug Kaelten for it! :)
23:57.18Antiarc|WorkBut thanks :)
23:57.26Antiarc|WorkPing my home nick - I'm leaving the office in 5 minutes
23:57.28Kaeltenhuh?
23:57.37nekohokay
23:57.45Kaelten~lart Antiarc|Work
23:57.46purlwhacks Antiarc|Work upside the head
23:57.54Antiarc|Work<PROTECTED>
23:59.29Kaelten:P

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