| 00:00.24 | JoshBorke | i mean, i'm sure there's that possibility, but good global naming, ie, ParserLib_SELF seems quite unique, and i thought hash tables were basically O(1) lookup time. please explain further |
| 00:00.30 | rophy | and it hurts so much do add a local self = ParserLib_SELF ? |
| 00:00.50 | JoshBorke | rophy: but you don't want to use self ;-) |
| 00:00.54 | rophy | try to make a test case where ParserLib_SELF actually makes anything slower. |
| 00:01.47 | ckknight | ParserLib.SELF was undoable? |
| 00:01.56 | ckknight | rophy: oh, I bet I can if I try hard enough |
| 00:02.05 | ckknight | but really, it's death by a million tiny cuts |
| 00:02.14 | ckknight | if you put a million things into the global table, access is much slower |
| 00:02.20 | ckknight | putting 1 thing in doesn't matter too much |
| 00:02.21 | rophy | doable, I discussed in very early stage, and decidd to go for a ParserLib_SELF since it doesn't really matter. |
| 00:02.24 | ckknight | but it adds up |
| 00:02.45 | rophy | luckily i didnt put 1 million things into global table, not even 1/1000 of Blizzard's. |
| 00:02.56 | ckknight | Blizzard's is bad |
| 00:03.01 | ckknight | I must agree |
| 00:03.13 | JoshBorke | ok, but is it literally 1 million tiny cuts? or is it 1000 tiny cuts? where does the number of entries in a table slow down access to the member elements? |
| 00:04.08 | rophy | well, I still remember how some people said 'passing a table is a bull shit' |
| 00:04.17 | rophy | and yet Parser-3.0 ended up doing the same thing. |
| 00:04.23 | ckknight | I never said it was bullshit |
| 00:04.36 | rophy | may be not you, some did. |
| 00:04.48 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37277 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 00:04.48 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 00:04.49 | CIA-22 | - Added option to show avg hit + dot portion, i.e. guaranteed damage on actionbar. /drdmg actionbar displaytype AvgHitTotal |
| 00:04.49 | CIA-22 | - Added option to show maximum possible damage (crit + dots etc. included) /drdmg actionbar displaytype Max |
| 00:04.51 | rophy | iirc you did said it should be passed as many args and not one table though |
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| 00:06.23 | ckknight | rophy: no, I didn't |
| 00:06.31 | ckknight | doing that would make access much more complicated |
| 00:06.34 | ckknight | although possible |
| 00:06.52 | ckknight | actually, laid out properly, it wouldn't be a big difference |
| 00:06.57 | ckknight | *shrug* either way |
| 00:08.28 | tsigo | "Violation.lua:1669: table index is nil" 185 times since joining this raid 10 minutes ago :D |
| 00:09.30 | Funkeh` | i get it also tsigo |
| 00:09.35 | Funkeh` | every time someone joins raid |
| 00:09.41 | Funkeh` | every time someone in a raid moves group |
| 00:09.42 | rophy | either way....... I think it's a style more than an issue for parser.SELF or parser.Self or Parser_Self or Parser_SELF, I won't force you to like mine, but stop backstabbing something without even trying to talk to me. |
| 00:09.47 | Funkeh` | every time someone in a raid dies/resurects |
| 00:10.43 | ckknight | rophy: so you know, I'm adding a Parser-1.1 backwards compatibility layer to Parser-3.0 |
| 00:11.24 | rophy | i have no problem with that. |
| 00:11.52 | ckknight | alright then |
| 00:11.54 | rophy | i just want to say that no one likes someone talking bull shit about their stuff when they arent around. |
| 00:14.10 | Gnarfoz | understandable ;) |
| 00:14.26 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37278 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon: frFR fix |
| 00:16.31 | ckknight | sorry, then, rophy, I don't mean to be a total dick |
| 00:16.37 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 00:16.38 | ckknight | I blame genetics |
| 00:16.52 | art3mis | sure you do ckk |
| 00:16.58 | art3mis | you are a total dick ;P |
| 00:17.14 | art3mis | besides rophy you should see how we talk about ckk when hes in school ;P |
| 00:17.23 | art3mis | or even when he's here |
| 00:17.27 | art3mis | for that matter ;) |
| 00:17.57 | ckknight | I will skullfuck you, you know |
| 00:18.00 | ckknight | one of these days |
| 00:18.25 | rophy | really, I don't mind if anyone got any problem about anything of mine, but please talk to me directly. |
| 00:20.55 | ravagernl | ~seen nymbia |
| 00:22.31 | purl | nymbia is currently on #wowi-lounge (30m 19s) #wowace (30m 19s), last said: 'or colored a text line?'. |
| 00:22.32 | dodgizzla | cat fight over already? man :\ |
| 00:22.32 | Funkeh` | can i use tortoisesvn to get a diff of 2 files not on an svn repo |
| 00:25.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37279 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 00:25.38 | CIA-22 | Parser-3.0 - add in Parser-1.1 compatibility layer, will only run if _G.ParserLib does not exist already. :Deformat and :IterateInfoTable are not implemented yet. |
| 00:25.38 | CIA-22 | - bugfix in event mapping. |
| 00:26.40 | art3mis | with the reputed size of your genitals im not taht worries ckk ;) |
| 00:26.46 | art3mis | worried |
| 00:27.08 | ravagernl | nymbia: missing 27635, 27655, 22645 and 27636 in manufac sorting |
| 00:27.24 | ckknight | art3mis: yea, I guess it would be hard to squeeze in there |
| 00:27.39 | art3mis | badoom clash! |
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| 00:30.57 | art3mis | http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2007/05/shuttle_ride |
| 00:32.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37280 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - implement :IterateInfoTable() in the Parser-1.1 compat layer |
| 00:34.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37281 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add note about Deformat |
| 00:35.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r37282 10SimpleCombatLog/ (. SimpleCombatLog.toc): SimpleCombatLog (ckknight) - change to Parser-3.0. No actual code is affected, as it should use the Parser-1.1 compatability layer. |
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| 00:37.56 | Livehelper | Hey, can anyone here tell me / give me a quick link as to how to make my own bar texture? |
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| 00:38.39 | Andreles | hello anyone here? |
| 00:38.58 | Andreles | i need some help with SCT and SCTD |
| 00:39.02 | Xuerian | Livehelper: Open a existing bar texture in a editor, edit, save as 32bit uncompressed tga |
| 00:39.03 | Andreles | says its incorrect version |
| 00:39.14 | Andreles | but it is 5.6 |
| 00:39.24 | Livehelper | k, I'll try that, thanks |
| 00:39.25 | Andreles | SCTD wont load untill i upgrad SCT to 5.6 and i have |
| 00:39.42 | Andreles | website says something about updating ACE Libs or something |
| 00:39.46 | Andreles | in the SCT folder |
| 00:39.47 | rophy | ckknight: does that the compatability layer work if 3.0 is loaded before 1.1? |
| 00:40.31 | ckknight | Andreles: Ace, not ACE |
| 00:41.00 | ckknight | rophy: basically, it will create the layer if _G.ParserLib is missing (i.e. 1.1 isn't loaded). If it exists, then the responsibility is left to ParserLib-1.1 proper |
| 00:41.07 | dotted | now you are picky ckknight |
| 00:41.36 | Andreles | ckknight where do i download libs though |
| 00:41.39 | ckknight | Andreles: I'd say bug the author on wowinterface, he doesn't come here. |
| 00:42.23 | Andreles | downloading the ACE libs from - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2 |
| 00:42.23 | Andreles | and extracting the files into World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/sct/libs/Ace2 directory fixes the error and the addon come to life again :) |
| 00:42.36 | ckknight | not ACE, dammit |
| 00:42.37 | Andreles | what does that mean |
| 00:42.43 | Livehelper | lol |
| 00:42.48 | dotted | Ace |
| 00:42.49 | Andreles | so confusing |
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| 00:42.50 | Thorgard^2 | It's Ace, not ACE. |
| 00:42.55 | Andreles | i understand |
| 00:42.56 | Andreles | that |
| 00:43.01 | ckknight | Andreles: read it and understand it, it's not complex. |
| 00:43.07 | ckknight | Andreles: if you're confused, read it again |
| 00:43.12 | dotted | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace |
| 00:43.13 | Andreles | umm where do i download the libs |
| 00:43.19 | Andreles | is whati want to know |
| 00:43.20 | ckknight | rophy: though theoretically, it could mess Parser-1.1 up if it loads after Parser-3.0... lemme see what I can do about that |
| 00:43.35 | ckknight | Andreles: read it again. |
| 00:43.44 | Andreles | i looked there |
| 00:43.52 | Andreles | had no libs |
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| 00:44.14 | rophy | ckknight: how about hooking 1.1's event handler so that the parsing are done only once when both exist? |
| 00:44.15 | Daemona | Andreles try http://wowaceupdater.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page |
| 00:44.17 | ckknight | Andreles: I'm sorry, but I refuse to help you unless you help yourself. |
| 00:44.30 | Daemona | that tool will update all your Ace mods |
| 00:44.38 | Thrae | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Communication_Environment <-- ACE! |
| 00:44.43 | rophy | but still let 1.1 handle the client call backs. |
| 00:45.05 | ckknight | rophy: frankly, both shouldn't exist, only one should, and I don't really know how to handle 1.1 standalone, so 3.0's just gonna let it do its own thing |
| 00:46.19 | Andreles | ckknight i am trying to help myself.. i have download Ace lib's and other things.. put them in the SCT folder where it says to.. then tried to run it and it wouldnt work |
| 00:46.20 | ckknight | so in the event where both exist, they shouldn't interact, imho |
| 00:46.26 | Andreles | same error came up |
| 00:46.35 | ckknight | Andreles: then you didn't put it in the right place, my best guess |
| 00:47.05 | Kalman| | Andreles: Have you tried grabbing new versions of SCT/SCTD from files.wowace.com? |
| 00:47.11 | Andreles | yes |
| 00:47.21 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37283 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:47.21 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 00:47.21 | CIA-22 | - Multiple threat targets are now maintained, with that-target and global threat lists held separately. This works by using a hash of the target's name, so targets with the same name share a threat pool. |
| 00:47.21 | CIA-22 | - Fixed rogue vanish |
| 00:47.21 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Misdirection command (untested) |
| 00:47.26 | Kalman| | And you're not grabbing no-ext versions? |
| 00:47.49 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37284 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Omen is now capable of switching threat lists when you switch targets. |
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| 00:48.18 | Gagorian | Antiarc: That's pro. |
| 00:48.19 | sbu | Antiarc: awesome :) |
| 00:48.43 | kbh | so its called omen eh? |
| 00:48.54 | sbu | Antiarc: no raidicons yet i suppose? :p |
| 00:49.01 | TecnoBrat | Antiarc, any way to make it if the mobs have different lucky charms on them, tehy have different threat lists? :) |
| 00:49.05 | Antiarc | sbu: You don't get raid icon info in chat logs, so you can't really use them. |
| 00:49.08 | Antiarc | TecnoBrat: No, see above :) |
| 00:49.24 | Antiarc | If a mage AEs two targets of the same name, you can't tell which target has which raid icon |
| 00:49.28 | Antiarc | So you can't distinguish the damage |
| 00:49.33 | TecnoBrat | ahh right |
| 00:49.40 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Now, how to differentiate between multi target on spellcast succeeded threat and single target? |
| 00:49.53 | Thorgard^2 | Gief unique unit IDs. |
| 00:49.57 | Thorgard^2 | blizard |
| 00:49.57 | Antiarc | Gagorian: Can you elaborate? |
| 00:50.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37285 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 00:50.02 | CIA-22 | Parser-3.0 - implement :Deformat in the 1.1 compat instance. I ripped it out of |
| 00:50.02 | CIA-22 | Parser-1.1, but it was originally ripped out of my Babble-Deformat-1.0, and is |
| 00:50.02 | CIA-22 | frankly out of date anyway compared to Deformat-2.0, so you shouldn't really use |
| 00:50.02 | CIA-22 | it anyway. |
| 00:50.08 | Kalman| | Think that falls into "asked and refused", Thorgard. |
| 00:50.28 | Thorgard^2 | Kalman|, why do they hate us so? |
| 00:50.37 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Alright. Warlock module has a few buffs that would add the same threat to each target, but on the other hand debuffs that only affect the target that gets the debuff |
| 00:51.03 | Kalman| | So we can't make perfectly accurate threatmeters and such? ;) |
| 00:51.04 | Antiarc | Global threat (heals, mana gains, etc) are added to all enemies on your threat list. It's maintained separately. |
| 00:51.20 | Antiarc | Target threat (damage done, debuffs you put on that target) are maintained per target. |
| 00:51.21 | ckknight | rophy: I could make Parser-3.0 prevent Parser-1.1 from loading if it comes after, or I could make it so that Parser-1.1 will always upgrade it to its own. What path do you think would be best? |
| 00:51.23 | nevcairiel | can it differentiate how many mobs with the same name are there? |
| 00:51.28 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: No. |
| 00:51.43 | nevcairiel | so in a big pack, threat goes wrong? |
| 00:51.45 | Andreles | ok.. the wowace updater.. will not work |
| 00:51.55 | ckknight | Andreles: you're just a big mess of problems |
| 00:51.57 | Kalman| | Andreles: Do you have the .net framework? |
| 00:51.58 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: Correct. Nothing I can do about that. |
| 00:52.07 | Andreles | application error |
| 00:52.08 | Andreles | with it |
| 00:52.16 | nevcairiel | oh well, guess it wont be too important |
| 00:52.25 | nevcairiel | only healing and gains will be off anyway |
| 00:52.32 | nevcairiel | and healing shouldnt push you into aggro |
| 00:52.36 | nevcairiel | ever. |
| 00:52.37 | Thorgard^2 | Andreles, installed .NET framework? |
| 00:52.41 | Andreles | The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). Click on OK to terminate the applicaion |
| 00:52.44 | Antiarc | Correct. It'll register higher than it really is if there is more than one target |
| 00:52.47 | TecnoBrat | Andreles, latest version as of a couple days ago? |
| 00:52.48 | Antiarc | But that's not a problem, really |
| 00:52.50 | TecnoBrat | ~wau |
| 00:53.13 | purl | somebody said wau was WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily. |
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| 00:53.25 | dotted | TecnoBrat he needs .net |
| 00:53.54 | TecnoBrat | ~.net |
| 00:54.09 | purl | when .NET system goes online, human decisions are removed from the office environment. It contains Application Center 2000, SQL server 2000, Exchange 2000, Host Integration Server 2000, BizTalk 2000, Commerce Server 2000. They seperate every single bit of simple operation into many buzzword-servers. Don't you hate your money? |
| 00:54.09 | TecnoBrat | ? :P |
| 00:54.16 | chuckg | Oh neat. |
| 00:54.21 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Yes, that's clear. But I would need an An AddAllTargetsThreat function in stead of using the AddTargetThreat for a few spells. |
| 00:54.22 | chuckg | aguf causing hard lock when I load :| |
| 00:54.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37286 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - bugfix |
| 00:54.56 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Also, for stuff like AoE fear, the threat is applied to each mob that gets the fear debuff. So possibly several targets, not globally to all targets though. |
| 00:56.01 | Antiarc | Gagorian: You could use (the misnamed) ReduceAllThreat(multiplier) with a >1 multiplier |
| 00:56.17 | Antiarc | Gagorian: Well, in those cases, there is an event per mob affected |
| 00:56.21 | Antiarc | So no special handling is necessary |
| 00:56.28 | Antiarc | What sorts of things affect all targets? |
| 00:56.35 | Gagorian | Buffs |
| 00:56.43 | Gagorian | If I cast fel armor everyone gets a bit pissed at me |
| 00:56.52 | Antiarc | Ok, I need to make buffs fall under gains then. |
| 00:56.53 | Gagorian | If a priest casts power word fortitude same thing |
| 00:57.00 | Antiarc | They'll be handled automatically then |
| 00:57.30 | Gagorian | Everyone has probably experienced it a few times in raids when a priest aoe stam buffs during pull and gets beaten into a pulp :P |
| 00:57.38 | dodgizzla | Question! With Parser-3.0's compat layer for 1.1 can I remove 1.1 and all addons that needed it will automagically work? |
| 00:57.50 | Gagorian | dodgizzla: No. |
| 00:57.58 | dodgizzla | Bummer :o |
| 00:58.02 | anenigma | Gagorian: I remmeber a warrior hitting bloodrage as we pulled instructor raz :) |
| 00:58.13 | dodgizzla | Then again, question! Why the heck is there a compat layer? :D |
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| 00:58.29 | Gagorian | So that you can easily convert it but just changing the toc |
| 00:58.40 | Gagorian | s/but/by/ |
| 00:58.48 | dodgizzla | aha! |
| 00:59.16 | dodgizzla | Gagorian: So actually I could remove 1.1, change the tocs of addons that needed it to just use 3.0, and then it'll all work automagically? |
| 00:59.21 | ckknight | dodgizzla: yes |
| 00:59.25 | dodgizzla | Huha! |
| 00:59.27 | ckknight | Gagorian: why did you say no? |
| 00:59.34 | ckknight | Gagorian: the whole point is so that you can |
| 00:59.37 | dodgizzla | Okay, now I'm getting confused. |
| 00:59.46 | dodgizzla | Can somebody draw me a Visio chart? :> |
| 00:59.49 | Gagorian | ckknight: Not unless you use disembedded |
| 00:59.54 | ckknight | ah, right |
| 01:00.00 | ckknight | dodgizzla: yea, update the tocs |
| 01:00.09 | ckknight | dodgizzla: and put Parser-3.0 disembedded |
| 01:00.10 | Antiarc | Oh, Gagorian... |
| 01:00.12 | ckknight | dodgizzla: and it should work |
| 01:00.12 | Antiarc | Just use AddThreat() |
| 01:00.17 | Antiarc | That adds threat to the global threat list |
| 01:00.25 | Antiarc | So when you buff, if you AddThreat(50), it adds 50 threat to everything. |
| 01:00.47 | dodgizzla | Yeah actually I would've tossed that into the chat next.. |
| 01:00.49 | rophy | ckknight: ideally you can hook 1.1's OnEvent to not register Bz event, map the client registration to 3.0. Then in 3.0's OnEvent call 1.1's client call back. |
| 01:00.53 | Antiarc | AddTargetThreat() just adds it to whoever the spell itself was applied to. |
| 01:00.55 | Thrae | ckknight: If you're going to keep full compatibility with Parser-1.1, wouldn't you just create a lib which works with 1.1? That way changes to the core of Parser's functions can be kept seperate then new API changes. |
| 01:01.07 | dodgizzla | So running disembedded, one can throw away Parser-1.1 and just use Parser-3.0? |
| 01:01.13 | Thrae | ckknight: And you wouldn't need to go through all this stuff trying to make the two work together. |
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| 01:02.00 | dodgizzla | Ah whatever, I'll just it try out anyways :p |
| 01:02.09 | dodgizzla | My middle name is danger! :o |
| 01:02.10 | ckknight | Thrae: that's possible ... but for now I don't feel like changing it, it works currently |
| 01:02.14 | Thrae | Not to mention, if you just make it an extra lib, you'd be considerably decreasing the size of the libraries in memory if 5 addons use Parser-1.1 and 5 addons use Parser-3.0, as they have redundant functionality. |
| 01:02.31 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Oh, alright. |
| 01:02.37 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r37287 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.lua: |
| 01:02.37 | CIA-22 | PT3Browser: |
| 01:02.38 | CIA-22 | - Fix linking tradeskill spells in 2.1 (updated color) |
| 01:02.54 | ckknight | Thrae: well, now those 5 that use Parser-1.1 can just load Parser-3.0 instead and not change any code |
| 01:03.39 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r37288 10ManufacSnoop/ManufacSnoop.lua: |
| 01:03.39 | CIA-22 | ManufacSnoop: |
| 01:03.39 | CIA-22 | - Fix linking tradeskill spells in 2.1 (updated color) |
| 01:03.56 | Thrae | ckknight: So, "Join me, or I shall hook your lib for my pleasure!" |
| 01:03.58 | Gagorian | Antiarc: So recap a) applying a debuff to a single target (add resistance check and it's perfect) -> AddTargetThreat b) applying debuffs to several targets at a time (Like aoe fear) -> AddTargetThreat c) Buffing etc for all combat target threat -> AddThreat? |
| 01:04.18 | ckknight | Thrae: and due to the differences in registration, the filtering vs. event system, it's two separate entities |
| 01:04.37 | ckknight | so just having an addon library wouldn't necessarily cut the mustard |
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| 01:05.48 | Antiarc | Gagorian: Correct. |
| 01:06.00 | dodgizzla | ahaha "what's that pet name she has for you?" - "whore." that 70s show is just too darn god :> |
| 01:06.09 | Killmore | I did an update with WAU and my pitbull, cartographer, Violation is broken :\ |
| 01:06.20 | Gagorian | Antiarc: kk, waiting for that resistance/immunity check still then! ;) |
| 01:06.44 | TecnoBrat | what SSC bosses do people usually go for first? |
| 01:06.53 | Antiarc | Gagorian: That's what I'm working on right now :) |
| 01:06.58 | sbu | hm, lurker / tidewalker? |
| 01:07.19 | sbu | if you dont have enough resistance gear |
| 01:07.32 | Andreles | ok i just re downloaded and installed all the new SCT and SCTD addons still getting same error |
| 01:07.38 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37289 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: - Warlock Module: Buffs add threat to all targets in combat |
| 01:07.42 | Andreles | saying its not 5.6 |
| 01:07.45 | Andreles | and it is |
| 01:08.02 | Andreles | its getting fustrating |
| 01:08.04 | Thorgard^2 | Andreles, nuke your WTF and Interface directory. ;P |
| 01:08.35 | Andreles | im not a stupid person.. im 23 and in the US Army and i do not understand what is wrong here |
| 01:08.52 | Andreles | i work on computers for a living |
| 01:09.06 | Thorgard^2 | Anyone? |
| 01:09.29 | kbh | or nuke the settings in SCT |
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| 01:10.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37290 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - _in and _notin modifiers can now be lists as well as sets. |
| 01:10.33 | ckknight | Andreles: woo, America! |
| 01:12.22 | Daemona | anyone got a quick tip on howto zoom out farther then the default ui allows? |
| 01:12.47 | ckknight | Daemona: I think you gotta set your cvar outside of wow |
| 01:14.06 | Andreles | i just used wowaceupdater and still wouldnt work |
| 01:14.24 | Daemona | remind me to google before asking stupid questions ... /script SetCVar("cameraDistanceMaxFactor",10); |
| 01:14.39 | ckknight | Andreles: clear (or backup and clear) your interface folder, then use WAU, then completely restart WoW |
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| 01:14.58 | Codayus | Baggins doesn't have any support for sorting items based on ClosetGnome sets? |
| 01:15.02 | Daemona | alternatively check the settings so you ignore version checking and delete before extracting |
| 01:15.02 | Andreles | WAU? |
| 01:15.09 | ckknight | Andreles: wowaceupdater |
| 01:15.38 | Andreles | ok.. to get SCT and SCTD to work i need Ace and Ace2? |
| 01:15.45 | Andreles | need to clarify that aswell |
| 01:15.55 | kbh | no |
| 01:16.05 | kbh | wau is wowaceupdater |
| 01:16.08 | JoshBorke | Andreles: Ace2 should be embedded into them |
| 01:16.19 | Andreles | ok i have Ace2 |
| 01:16.21 | Andreles | and Ace |
| 01:16.31 | Andreles | both running |
| 01:16.42 | Andreles | i use X-Perl / FuBar which are running smoothly |
| 01:16.50 | Andreles | along with all my other mods |
| 01:16.59 | Andreles | its just SCT and SCTD giving me problems |
| 01:17.17 | kbh | open up the sct menu and reset it |
| 01:17.20 | CIA-22 | 03sutorix * r37291 10FishingAce/ (FishingAce.lua FishingAce.toc): FishingAce: fix lure check so that it actually works |
| 01:17.45 | Codayus | nm |
| 01:19.37 | Wogroipl_ | w00t got my first piece of tier4 armor :) |
| 01:20.05 | Wogroipl_ | first of the guild as well |
| 01:20.37 | Gokie | ugh, doing Magtheridon as a warlock without working target/ToT/ToToT/Focus/FocusTarget frames really really sucks |
| 01:21.17 | chutwig | as long as you have focus i think it's pretty doable |
| 01:21.19 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r37292 10PeriodicTable-3.0/dataminer.lua: |
| 01:21.19 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 01:21.20 | CIA-22 | - Change to the dataminer, value of Tradeskill.RecipeLinks will be the itemid of |
| 01:21.20 | CIA-22 | the item that's created, instead of the difficulty (since there's no way to |
| 01:21.20 | CIA-22 | access the itemid of the created item, afaik). If you need the difficulty, get |
| 01:21.20 | CIA-22 | it from Tradeskill.Crafted using that itemid. |
| 01:21.24 | chutwig | it helps a lot that the infernals hit for almost nothing now |
| 01:21.28 | Gagorian | Gokie: well, I admit.. without a working target frame it could be a pain in the ass :D |
| 01:21.37 | Gagorian | But, the rest is hardly needed |
| 01:21.38 | chutwig | point and pray |
| 01:21.52 | Gokie | focus is definitely needed when you're juggling multiple fears and banishes |
| 01:22.35 | chutwig | so anyway, now i have a king's defender |
| 01:22.41 | chutwig | that plus firestone |
| 01:22.41 | chutwig | hooooooo |
| 01:22.43 | Gagorian | Well, we rely more on the banish/fear whatever moves option. Works fine |
| 01:22.56 | Gokie | so what exactly is the deal with that... tainting issues? |
| 01:23.08 | chutwig | pitbull's been working fine for me post-patch |
| 01:23.24 | Gagorian | Gokie: Using AutoBar? |
| 01:23.28 | Gokie | from what I can tell, it's not pitbull itself but something else interacting with pitbull |
| 01:23.31 | ravagernl | omg somebody moved at flame wreath!!!! |
| 01:23.32 | Gokie | Gagorian: nope |
| 01:23.41 | chutwig | ravagernl: play them the aran chant |
| 01:23.50 | ravagernl | i did~! |
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| 01:23.56 | chutwig | i retrieved the mp3 from ytmnd |
| 01:23.59 | chutwig | specifically to play it if somebody moves |
| 01:24.00 | Gagorian | Gokie: Well, run a full WAU update. Should fix it |
| 01:24.05 | Gokie | all my Ace2 mods are religiously updated |
| 01:24.10 | Gokie | so I'm now wondering if it's Bongos |
| 01:24.20 | Gagorian | Using Bongos2? |
| 01:24.22 | Gokie | yeah |
| 01:24.35 | Gagorian | Shouldn't be, but easy to find out by disabling |
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| 01:24.52 | Gokie | the thing is, I was testing it a bit in solo environment, and it seemed to be working fine |
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| 01:25.05 | Gokie | but when I'm in a group it seems to be having problems |
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| 01:36.55 | kergoth | if not _G.ParserLib or rawget(_G.parserLib, 'parser30') then |
| 01:36.55 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:37.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37293 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - typo |
| 01:37.55 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37294 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua: |
| 01:37.55 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane: |
| 01:37.55 | CIA-22 | - reworked module considerably |
| 01:37.55 | CIA-22 | - rain of bones is no longer a target warning, but an 11 second aoe channeled warning |
| 01:37.59 | kergoth | :) |
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| 01:44.48 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37295 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (9 files): BigWigs: Karazhan: remove various zhTW cmd's |
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| 01:46.30 | f0zle | Any barmod that lets you move individual buttons? |
| 01:46.43 | f0zle | does that bartender thing do it? |
| 01:47.06 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37296 10BigWigs/Outland/ (Kazzak.lua Maulgar.lua): BigWigs: Outland: remove zhTW cmd's |
| 01:47.18 | f0zle | and any ace2 mod simular to cryolysis ? |
| 01:47.34 | Funkeh` | whats that |
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| 01:48.27 | f0zle | A mage-mod, it's a circle with smaller circles around it for water/food/portal spells and eating/drinking |
| 01:48.29 | theoddone33 | bartender doesn't let you move individual buttons as fara s I know |
| 01:49.30 | theoddone33 | and I'm pretty sure there is a mod like that but I don't remember what it's called |
| 01:50.41 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 01:51.29 | dodgizzla | there's infinibar |
| 01:51.39 | dodgizzla | I heard you could set up buttons any way you like, never tested it though |
| 01:51.39 | nymbia | f0zle: check out henge, not sure if it works or not though |
| 01:51.49 | durcyn | just set bongos to 120 bars with 1 button each |
| 01:52.02 | dodgizzla | I never figured out how to configure henge :D |
| 01:52.14 | theoddone33 | serenity is the mod I was thinking of |
| 01:52.17 | theoddone33 | but I'm told it's class-specific |
| 01:52.18 | theoddone33 | for priests |
| 01:52.28 | theoddone33 | never tried it myself |
| 01:53.00 | theoddone33 | ah henge |
| 01:53.01 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 01:55.36 | Antiarc | Okay, think I have a plan of attack for resists, Gagorian |
| 01:57.22 | chutwig | sweet |
| 01:57.26 | chutwig | with my firestone and king's defender |
| 01:57.29 | chutwig | i am sustaining 143 dps! |
| 01:57.40 | chutwig | though i think most of that is from the siphon life i have to use to avoid dying |
| 02:00.29 | Thorgard^2 | I'm sustaining 232 DPS! |
| 02:00.35 | f0zle | level 30? |
| 02:00.35 | f0zle | =D |
| 02:00.49 | aen` | anti: do you have an eta on new sanitybags? |
| 02:01.08 | chutwig | plink plink plink |
| 02:01.11 | Antiarc | ckknight: Ping |
| 02:01.30 | ckknight | Antiarc: pong |
| 02:01.33 | Antiarc | aen`: Sorry, no. Soon, I hope. |
| 02:01.49 | Daemona | SCREW you Mulverick ! |
| 02:01.55 | Daemona | *cough* |
| 02:01.55 | Antiarc | ckknight: How do I handle "You perform Taunt on Frog"? Damage doesn't pick it up, even though the relevant event is CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE |
| 02:02.03 | Antiarc | With Parser-3.0 |
| 02:02.13 | Daemona | Antiarc the target gets a debuff? ;) |
| 02:02.13 | ckknight | Antiarc: eventType = "Cast" |
| 02:02.33 | ckknight | isPerform = true |
| 02:02.42 | ckknight | sourceID = "player" |
| 02:02.46 | ckknight | recipientName = "Frog" |
| 02:02.49 | Antiarc | Daemona: I'm trying to avoid debuff scanning where possible. |
| 02:02.50 | ckknight | abilityName = "Taunt" |
| 02:02.52 | ckknight | that's about it |
| 02:03.03 | Antiarc | Awesome. Thank you. |
| 02:06.32 | Antiarc | Stupid frog, resist my taunt! |
| 02:06.49 | Antiarc | Frogs are pretty insecure. |
| 02:07.05 | nymbia | clearly outplayed |
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| 02:10.15 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r37297 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:10.15 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: Values for Tradeskill.RecipeLinks are now the itemid |
| 02:10.15 | CIA-22 | of the created item. |
| 02:11.35 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 02:11.39 | Funkeh` | frog > you |
| 02:12.01 | ravagernl | nymbia, lynx steak, ravager dog crunchy spider sausage and bat bites are not in pt sets |
| 02:13.17 | Funkeh` | WTF NYMBIA MAN |
| 02:13.19 | Diao | "your taunt was resisted by ____" |
| 02:13.26 | Funkeh` | how can you forget yuor steak |
| 02:13.31 | Funkeh` | honestly |
| 02:13.44 | Funkeh` | s/yuor/your/ |
| 02:14.39 | ravagernl | 27635,27655,22645,27636 |
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| 02:14.48 | andzy | Hello's |
| 02:14.51 | andzy | Anyone here ? |
| 02:15.07 | nymbia | ravagernl: i blame Funkeh` |
| 02:15.12 | ckknight | andzy: yes. |
| 02:15.17 | ravagernl | ehh X |
| 02:15.21 | nymbia | i know i'm not |
| 02:15.22 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 02:15.40 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 02:15.41 | Funkeh` | ~blame nymbia |
| 02:15.43 | purl | ACTION blames nymbia (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 02:15.56 | Funkeh` | ~pancake nymbia |
| 02:15.59 | purl | ACTION slaps nymbia with a soggy pancake for playing with the food. |
| 02:16.07 | andzy | lol =P |
| 02:16.24 | Funkeh` | food ItemID's you mean purl |
| 02:17.34 | andzy | someone should make a ui/mod that gives thottbot info for quests =P lawl |
| 02:17.52 | Killmore | already exist I think |
| 02:18.05 | aen` | yes |
| 02:18.07 | andzy | i know one thou i think its called lightheaded |
| 02:18.07 | aen` | for wowhead |
| 02:18.10 | andzy | ? |
| 02:18.14 | aen` | which is better than thottbot |
| 02:18.25 | aen` | nquestlog integrates comments from wowhead |
| 02:18.32 | todd | </3 thottbot |
| 02:19.11 | andzy | nquestlog is better than lightheaded ? |
| 02:19.33 | ckknight | I should test Violation with the Parser-3.0 compat... |
| 02:19.37 | andzy | most people go to thottbot/wowhead just for coordinates thou |
| 02:19.45 | cladhaire | lightheaded uses wowhead |
| 02:20.25 | ckknight | btw, cladhaire, <3 lightheaded |
| 02:20.32 | cladhaire | thanks |
| 02:20.40 | cladhaire | splitting it up into 8 different addons |
| 02:20.44 | cladhaire | and adding npc information |
| 02:20.46 | cladhaire | in the next update |
| 02:20.59 | ckknight | cladhaire: 8 different addons? currently it's horde/ally. doing it by level, then? |
| 02:21.03 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 02:21.06 | cladhaire | 20 level grousp |
| 02:21.07 | ckknight | good plan. |
| 02:21.09 | cladhaire | 0-20, 21-40, etc. |
| 02:21.16 | cladhaire | and dropping compression |
| 02:21.25 | nymbia | not worth it? |
| 02:21.26 | ckknight | compression was too much of a CPU clincher? |
| 02:21.34 | Funkeh` | don't mean to be rude, but what is lightheaded? |
| 02:21.40 | aen` | is it on the SVN? |
| 02:21.46 | ckknight | aen`: not ace |
| 02:21.50 | andzy | i found it on wowinterface |
| 02:21.51 | nymbia | Funkeh`: search wowi |
| 02:21.51 | andzy | lol |
| 02:21.52 | ckknight | Funkeh`: quest details from wowhead |
| 02:21.53 | Antiarc | Mmm. Think I'm going to have to go with transactions to properly handle resists in a generic fashion. |
| 02:22.03 | cladhaire | gruul one sec |
| 02:22.17 | ckknight | transactions how? |
| 02:22.22 | andzy | Rating Buster ftw. |
| 02:22.26 | cladhaire | its worth it.. butwith the split.. all data uncompressed is less than what we have now, compressed |
| 02:22.34 | cladhaire | and it speeds it up |
| 02:22.39 | nymbia | nice |
| 02:22.59 | Antiarc | UNIT_SPELL_SUCCEEDED will have the option to begin a transaction. Any changes made in the transaction get put into a buffer. The next relevant event auto-commits the transaction; a miss/parry/dodge/evade/immune/full resist will "roll back" (dump) the transaction. |
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| 02:23.09 | Antiarc | For example, Sunder Armor |
| 02:23.15 | Antiarc | There's no message if you're stacked to 5 and it lands. |
| 02:23.31 | andzy | wats that ui/mod called ? that auto /emotes when they have low hp/mana lol |
| 02:23.40 | andzy | i remember it a year ago was in ct mod x_x |
| 02:24.00 | Antiarc | So, I need to watch for UNIT_SPELL_SUCCEEDED, start the transaction, make the threat change, and roll back if I get a "Sunder missed", etc message. Else it gets committed on the next threat event. |
| 02:24.19 | Antiarc | My tests so far show that event order is static enough that I should be able to consider it atomic. |
| 02:24.42 | ckknight | okay, Violation seems to work fine with the compat system |
| 02:25.55 | andzy | anyone know ? |
| 02:26.05 | Jagobah | hmm |
| 02:26.10 | ravagernl | hey just had an idea for a fubar plugin |
| 02:26.16 | xlvii | shoot? |
| 02:26.17 | ravagernl | ScreenshotFu :P |
| 02:26.18 | Jagobah | I should check the forums ! |
| 02:27.11 | Jagobah | threat-1.0 |
| 02:28.00 | Antiarc | What about it? |
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| 02:28.09 | aen` | i want to rewrite SCL |
| 02:28.18 | ckknight | aen`: you have my blessing |
| 02:28.32 | ckknight | I was going through the code today |
| 02:28.44 | ckknight | to figure out how I could update it to Parser-3.0, but it was far too complex |
| 02:28.50 | ckknight | it was easier to write a Parser-1.1 compat layer :-P |
| 02:28.54 | aen` | yeah |
| 02:29.08 | ckknight | it could be done very easily, very simply if you do it right |
| 02:29.29 | cladhaire | with LightHeaded, I'm planning on adding start and npc coords as an "auto-added" comment during parsing.. anyone see an issue with that? |
| 02:30.04 | ckknight | cladhaire: not really, except for guys who move, but that's not often and not a big issue |
| 02:30.18 | cladhaire | I haven't decide whether or not I'll include the full list |
| 02:30.26 | cladhaire | or just say "paths between zones X and Y" |
| 02:30.27 | ckknight | cladhaire: does LightHeaded include details like how much XP you get? I'd like that |
| 02:30.29 | durcyn | only if you include at least one "BEHIND YOU!" easter egg. |
| 02:30.34 | cladhaire | ckknight: I have it all |
| 02:30.38 | cladhaire | i certainly could |
| 02:30.46 | cladhaire | xp and faction |
| 02:30.50 | ckknight | easter eggs = ftw |
| 02:30.53 | ckknight | that'd be cool |
| 02:31.22 | cladhaire | as an auto-added comment, with the start/end locs? |
| 02:31.32 | cladhaire | trying to think of whats easiest api wise |
| 02:31.33 | ravagernl | omg |
| 02:31.34 | andzy | does ace have theorycraft thingy ? |
| 02:31.37 | cladhaire | for the quest addons that display it |
| 02:31.38 | ravagernl | wowhead spam :P |
| 02:31.41 | ckknight | andzy: DrDamage |
| 02:31.57 | andzy | yay |
| 02:31.58 | andzy | ty. |
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| 02:34.19 | andzy | ckknight: do you know a mod that does auto /oom when out of mana ? lol =P |
| 02:34.45 | aen` | combatannounce? |
| 02:34.54 | bigzero | no |
| 02:35.04 | aen` | then i dunno |
| 02:35.06 | bigzero | actually, probably yes |
| 02:35.25 | bigzero | though if you want to announce it like at 10% mana, then no |
| 02:35.27 | ckknight | andzy: I find those annoying, so no |
| 02:35.35 | andzy | lol |
| 02:36.44 | durcyn | hrm. Threat-1.0 r37289: ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:315 table index is nil |
| 02:37.04 | andzy | anyone here uses prat ? |
| 02:37.30 | ravagernl | what about it |
| 02:37.41 | bigzero | yeah, combatannounce can announce oom |
| 02:37.58 | nymbia | it can? |
| 02:38.02 | nymbia | news to me >.> |
| 02:38.13 | aen` | thats my guess |
| 02:38.17 | bigzero | yes...anything that can go into combat log can be announced :-) |
| 02:38.26 | aen` | i play with no sound, so i dunno |
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| 02:38.32 | andzy | some people in my guild wants me to get prat lol never really knew wats it used for |
| 02:38.34 | andzy | chat mod ? |
| 02:38.37 | bigzero | and oom goes into combat log if you turn it on |
| 02:38.43 | ravagernl | nymbia knows, its his addon |
| 02:38.54 | ravagernl | yeah prat is a chat addon |
| 02:39.07 | hyperChipmunk | how does 10% mana go into your combat log? |
| 02:39.14 | bigzero | not 10% |
| 02:39.18 | bigzero | oom does |
| 02:39.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37298 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - for shield damage, the abilityName = SHIELDSLOT, or "Shield" localized, instead of false for Melee. |
| 02:39.40 | hyperChipmunk | "You fail to cast. Out of Mana." might |
| 02:39.48 | bigzero | that's it |
| 02:39.50 | hyperChipmunk | er, Not enough Mana |
| 02:40.07 | ckknight | ERR_OUT_OF_MANA |
| 02:40.10 | andzy | whats parser mod ? o.O |
| 02:40.15 | nymbia | but that'll spam the hell out of the combat log |
| 02:40.20 | nymbia | err chat even |
| 02:40.28 | nymbia | since it announces each message |
| 02:40.29 | bigzero | if you spam the spell..then yes |
| 02:40.35 | ckknight | andzy: library that other addons use |
| 02:40.36 | nymbia | who doesn't? ;) |
| 02:40.40 | hyperChipmunk | but that gets called whenever i try to rez my pet with less than 2700 mana |
| 02:40.48 | andzy | ckknight: oh okie |
| 02:40.48 | hyperChipmunk | so that's not really a good indication |
| 02:41.03 | bigzero | oo, another feature i could add into my addon...only announce no faster than every so and so seconds |
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| 02:41.47 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, but that means you are out of mana |
| 02:41.52 | aen` | what other mods have the oldschool parsers in them, btw |
| 02:41.54 | ravagernl | throttling! |
| 02:41.57 | aen` | besides scl |
| 02:42.10 | hyperChipmunk | it's not worth announcing 'omg i'm oom' |
| 02:42.12 | andzy | so whats the top 10 ace downloads ? |
| 02:42.13 | andzy | lol |
| 02:42.25 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, you could set it up to announce only for certain spells |
| 02:42.26 | hyperChipmunk | i don't know lol |
| 02:42.27 | aen` | go to the site |
| 02:42.28 | aen` | and look |
| 02:42.51 | andzy | which site ? im lookin at http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 02:43.07 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, i think you can anyway, haven't messed around with combatannounce too much |
| 02:43.23 | aen` | http://wowace.com/wiki/The_Best_of_Ace |
| 02:43.37 | andzy | ah never knew that |
| 02:43.38 | ravagernl | the auto generating zip script doesnt keep track of the number of downloads |
| 02:44.03 | andzy | pitbull o_O |
| 02:44.14 | aen` | does bartender keep SV's? it erases config every update |
| 02:44.38 | andzy | anyone have a screenshot of that ui ? lol xD |
| 02:44.52 | Gokie | is there a way to disable the game's auto-targetting of the mob that's hitting on you when you get put into combat? |
| 02:44.57 | hyperChipmunk | lol i have some lol |
| 02:45.08 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:45.12 | ravagernl | best thing to get an idea of favorite addons is to go and read forums |
| 02:45.38 | kenlyric|home | aloft really should be LoD |
| 02:47.04 | jwwpua | can someone explain how to update Gladiator player/arena data? |
| 02:47.26 | hyperChipmunk | download luasocket |
| 02:47.44 | hyperChipmunk | run dataminer.lua through your lua interpreter |
| 02:47.53 | hyperChipmunk | wait a long time |
| 02:48.11 | hyperChipmunk | you may want to tweak some of the values at the top of dataminer.lua |
| 02:48.35 | jwwpua | is luasocket an lua interpreter? or is it just for the network? |
| 02:48.39 | hyperChipmunk | to get more players, only your own battlegroup, etc |
| 02:48.44 | *** join/#wowace FroMaster (n=DM@rrcs-24-199-20-58.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 02:48.53 | hyperChipmunk | just a library |
| 02:49.17 | hyperChipmunk | you can stick it right in the same directory with dataminer.lua i think |
| 02:49.52 | *** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@240.7-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 02:50.10 | FroMaster | Anyone familiar with how to move the Decursive 2.0 frame? I've looked through the options but can't see to identify which setting i need to mess with. I also tried the Shift-RightClick-Drag, etc methods but nothin |
| 02:50.21 | jwwpua | hyperChipmunk: would "lua5_1_2_Win32_bin.zip" from http://luaforge.net/frs/?group_id=110&release_id=694 be the right one? |
| 02:50.51 | hyperChipmunk | for the standalone interpreter? i think so |
| 02:50.53 | andzy | brb |
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| 02:51.08 | jwwpua | hyperChipmunk: and then use that to run dataminer.lua right? |
| 02:51.17 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 02:51.29 | hyperChipmunk | if there's a 'lua' executable in there |
| 02:56.41 | jwwpua | apparently i have no clue what I'm doing :) |
| 02:57.01 | jwwpua | have lua5.1.exe and luac5.1.exe |
| 02:57.26 | Xuerian | lua5.1 is the one in question |
| 02:57.40 | hyperChipmunk | luac is the compiler |
| 02:57.45 | hyperChipmunk | lua is the interpreter |
| 02:57.59 | jwwpua | would it be lua5.1.exe dataminer.lua ? |
| 02:58.22 | hyperChipmunk | tiafo |
| 02:58.26 | Nimble | Antiarc: hey why isn't "quality:uncommon tooltip:Soulbound" working for me? |
| 02:58.42 | Nimble | nvm I see the soulbound:true thing now |
| 02:58.43 | Nimble | lol |
| 02:58.52 | jwwpua | it's looking for files in \socket\ |
| 03:00.00 | hyperChipmunk | that would be luasocket |
| 03:00.00 | jwwpua | lua5.1.exe dataminer.lua |
| 03:00.01 | jwwpua | lua5.1.exe: dataminer.lua:37: module 'socket.http' not found: |
| 03:00.01 | jwwpua | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.01 | jwwpua | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.03 | aen` | nimble: theres some filtering bugs |
| 03:00.36 | hyperChipmunk | http://luaforge.net/projects/luasocket/ |
| 03:02.32 | Gokie | asking again because this is really bugging the hell out of me... is there a way to turn off the auto-targetting of the mob that's hitting you? |
| 03:02.57 | Gngsk | Gokie, doubt it |
| 03:03.13 | durcyn | yeah - target something else :o |
| 03:03.21 | Gnarfoz | I find that very weird btw, it changes targets automatically but it _doesn't_ attack back automatically |
| 03:03.34 | Gokie | well, I specifically need it to be while I have nothing targetted |
| 03:03.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37299 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix some theoretical bugs. |
| 03:03.56 | Gokie | because I need to test the unitframes appearing (or rather, not appearing) in combat |
| 03:04.39 | zac | hmm. it'd be cool if your guys CIA posted the trac url to changes too. |
| 03:05.07 | jwwpua | hyperChipmunk: the archive contains 2 folders: LIB and LUA. where do I extract these? |
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| 03:06.50 | a-stray-cat | is there any way to download the enGB locale files? |
| 03:06.59 | Xuerian | ~elp |
| 03:07.13 | purl | i guess elp is European Language Pack, downloadable from http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/faq/elp.html |
| 03:07.13 | Xuerian | ... |
| 03:07.23 | a-stray-cat | well that's hot. |
| 03:07.53 | a-stray-cat | thanks a bunch |
| 03:09.47 | hyperChipmunk | jwwpua: no idea; i didn't do it on windows |
| 03:11.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37300 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove debug line |
| 03:11.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37301 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - wait until PLAYER_LOGIN to load LoD modules |
| 03:12.44 | Gokie | dammit, so it is Bongos |
| 03:13.13 | Tuller | Gokie: ? |
| 03:13.19 | *** join/#wowace Scre3m (n=Scre3m@24-107-70-71.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:13.29 | Scre3m | anyone using Logitech G7 |
| 03:13.43 | hyperChipmunk | bongos murdered his father and raped his mother |
| 03:13.57 | Gokie | was trying like hell to figure out what's causing the tainting issue with pitbull |
| 03:14.08 | hyperChipmunk | oh, or that |
| 03:14.11 | Gokie | was bongos2... but I just noticed 1.3 was uploaded |
| 03:14.13 | Tuller | Gokie: running prat? |
| 03:14.17 | hyperChipmunk | i know it was one of those |
| 03:14.50 | Gokie | Tuller: Yes, but disabling Bongos fixed it |
| 03:15.00 | Gokie | unless it's Bongos + Prat that causes it? |
| 03:15.16 | Tuller | Gokie: try with bongos and not prat |
| 03:16.17 | hyperChipmunk | Gokie accuses Tuller's mod of tainting. Tuller parries. |
| 03:16.50 | Gokie | Tuller: I'll give it a try... and I'm not accusing it, just stating what I discovered while trying things |
| 03:16.57 | aen` | ckknight: which version of mobhealth works with pitbull |
| 03:17.05 | ckknight | aen`: 2 and 3 |
| 03:17.22 | ckknight | well, Grayhoof said he'll look into using Parser-3.0 in SCT/Eavesdrop |
| 03:17.29 | aen` | ! |
| 03:17.33 | aen` | now we need to get scl over |
| 03:17.59 | Antiarc | Hm. Can I define an OnUpdate handler on an arbitrary table? |
| 03:18.03 | Antiarc | Or will I need to create a frame? |
| 03:18.26 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37302 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua: |
| 03:18.26 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: Outland/Gruul: |
| 03:18.26 | CIA-22 | - massive module changes, hopefully timers are more accurate now(drycode) |
| 03:20.09 | Gokie | alright, so it's Bongos AND Prat together that causes the tainting... neither causes it by itself |
| 03:20.17 | Gokie | wtf am I supposed to do about that >< |
| 03:20.26 | aen` | use bartender? |
| 03:20.28 | aen` | :o |
| 03:20.36 | Gokie | can't stand it |
| 03:21.13 | Gokie | Tuller: so do you know what interaction between Bongos and Prat is causing the tainting? |
| 03:21.24 | Xuerian | Use Simplechatmod and bongos. |
| 03:21.25 | Tuller | Gokie: not a clue |
| 03:21.43 | Gokie | =( |
| 03:22.27 | Gokie | Bongos is about the only barmod I can stand using... and I really like Prat... this is very annoying >< |
| 03:22.37 | aen` | why dont u like bartender? |
| 03:22.37 | durcyn | prat's kitchen sink gets in the way, unfortunately |
| 03:22.42 | durcyn | try tekChat ;) |
| 03:22.46 | ckknight | Antiarc: you need a frame |
| 03:22.52 | hyperChipmunk | figure out what module in prat causes it |
| 03:22.56 | ckknight | Antiarc: or you could just use AceEvent |
| 03:23.00 | Kinkx | Tuller: Is Ludwig_SellValue gone now? Don't see it in the latest Ludwig |
| 03:23.10 | Tuller | Kinkx: yes, it was replaced by sellfish |
| 03:23.19 | Kinkx | Okie, cool :) |
| 03:23.21 | Tuller | Kinkx: which you can also use ItemPriceTooltip to get the same functionality of |
| 03:23.26 | Gokie | Bartender is severely limited in terms of the number of bars I have, and the size of each |
| 03:23.36 | Scre3m | why don't you like bartender? |
| 03:23.48 | Gokie | I came from using FlexBar, and then Discord |
| 03:23.57 | aen` | i used discord |
| 03:23.57 | FroMaster | Anyone familiar with how to move the Decursive 2.0 frame? I've looked through the options but can't see to identify which setting i need to mess with. I also tried the Shift-RightClick-Drag, etc methods but nothin |
| 03:23.58 | Gokie | so I have my bars set up in a way that I'm used to, and like |
| 03:24.06 | Gokie | which can't be replicated with BT3 |
| 03:24.07 | aen` | block of buttons? |
| 03:24.25 | Scre3m | alt click on the red box to move the decursice window |
| 03:24.45 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r37303 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Hunter.lua: |
| 03:24.45 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 03:24.45 | CIA-22 | - decided Feign Death was kind of an important threaty-type thing. Added it to Hunter module. |
| 03:24.45 | Scre3m | i do miss the block of buttons from bongos |
| 03:25.05 | FroMaster | Scre3m: the the box that says Decursive but the Unit Frame type box |
| 03:25.07 | Gokie | I don't feel like typing an explanation of how i set up my buttons, but trust me when I say I've given BarTender more than a fair shot |
| 03:25.16 | jwwpua | is there a /command to run a macro by name? |
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| 03:25.30 | hyperChipmunk | i've also got misdirection fading work; now i need to figure out on whom it was cast |
| 03:25.42 | Gokie | Trinity works OK, but the author went MIA a while before 2.1, and some of the way it handles config drives me insane |
| 03:25.47 | Funkeh` | are we getting 2.1.1 this week? |
| 03:25.51 | Gokie | so I switched to Bongos... and liked it |
| 03:26.21 | Gokie | InfiniBar would be the best barmod I ever tried if it didn't drop my frame rate to 5 in a raid >_> |
| 03:26.23 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: RosterLib with SEA and the new UnitBuff api? :> |
| 03:27.23 | bigzero | jwwpua, macro by name? can't you have multiple macros with same names? |
| 03:28.00 | hyperChipmunk | roster isn't part of Threat |
| 03:28.13 | Gagorian | Well it can always be added |
| 03:28.15 | Gagorian | :P |
| 03:28.22 | hyperChipmunk | not by me |
| 03:28.26 | Scre3m | FroMaster, hover mouse over the window, then alt click on the little red box |
| 03:28.29 | aen` | Gokie: trinity was just updated |
| 03:28.32 | aen` | like a day ago |
| 03:28.36 | Scre3m | hove the mouse over the top* |
| 03:29.00 | jwwpua | not sure |
| 03:29.07 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: Well ask Antiarc for it. Shouldn't be a big deal, and imo seems like the best solution. |
| 03:29.09 | FroMaster | Scre3m: On the Micro Unit Frame? (the Square boxes that show the people in my party/raid) |
| 03:29.33 | hyperChipmunk | i should be able to iterate the raid easy enough, if it's just my one function |
| 03:29.38 | FroMaster | Scre3m: Found it.. Didn't see the red box the first 50 times i tried |
| 03:30.07 | Scre3m | :) |
| 03:30.15 | bigzero | jwwpua, you can, so tha /command would not work |
| 03:30.16 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: There's a name => unitID table in Threat already |
| 03:30.26 | Gokie | aen`: yeah, I saw that today... I don't really want to go back to it (I vastly prefer Bongos' config method), but if I can't find a better replacement for Prat, I probably will |
| 03:30.27 | Antiarc | ThreatLib.partyUnits["Adrine"] = "raid4" |
| 03:30.28 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: Perhaps. Also another possibility is using SEA to pickup that someone gained misdirection buff at about the same time the hunter did, then you could assume he's the person that got it |
| 03:30.56 | ckknight | Antiarc: where do you use that, btw? |
| 03:31.53 | hyperChipmunk | i've never worked with either |
| 03:31.53 | hyperChipmunk | i'll take a look |
| 03:31.53 | Antiarc | ckknight: Passing unit names to the event publish, primarily |
| 03:32.01 | Scre3m | is there a "stop casting" macro? |
| 03:32.13 | Antiarc | I also use it to verify that any character misdirecting threat is a hunter |
| 03:32.13 | hyperChipmunk | or if someone is already familiar and thinks it's a simple task, go right ahead and do it |
| 03:32.13 | Gagorian | Scre3m: /stopcasting |
| 03:32.20 | Gagorian | how incredible hard to figure out :D |
| 03:32.25 | Scre3m | oh nice :) |
| 03:33.44 | Gagorian | s/incredible/incredibly/ |
| 03:33.44 | hyperChipmunk | the parts specific to threat are obvious from what's in there |
| 03:33.44 | CIA-22 | 03whitetooth * r37304 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 03:33.44 | CIA-22 | StatLogicLib: |
| 03:33.44 | CIA-22 | - Updated Taiwan localization |
| 03:33.45 | Scre3m | ive found the moving to stop casting on the aran fight, can be bad at times hehe |
| 03:33.45 | hyperChipmunk | the thing that gets passed to the function is unfortunately not the spell message |
| 03:33.49 | hyperChipmunk | it's just whether it faded |
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| 03:35.20 | Gokie | Tuller: have you seen this thread: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6278.20 ? |
| 03:35.34 | Gokie | it seems as if Prat is loaded after Bongos, no problems exist |
| 03:35.36 | hyperChipmunk | 2/23 17:18:47.244 You gain Misdirection. |
| 03:35.36 | hyperChipmunk | 2/23 17:18:47.708 Lyriki gains Misdirection. |
| 03:35.44 | hyperChipmunk | doesn't even happen at the same time =P |
| 03:36.00 | Tuller | Gokie: is it loaded after bongos and after player_login? |
| 03:36.05 | ckknight | it's not like %s casts Misdirection on %s? |
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| 03:36.16 | hyperChipmunk | looks like it isn't =P |
| 03:36.40 | Gokie | Tuller: I load the game w/ Prat disabled, then enable and load it via /ace2 command |
| 03:36.49 | Tuller | Gokie: so yes :) |
| 03:36.50 | Gokie | after everything else has loaded |
| 03:36.53 | Gokie | yeah |
| 03:36.57 | hyperChipmunk | 5/27 23:08:37.564 Misdirection fades from you. |
| 03:36.57 | hyperChipmunk | 5/27 23:08:37.897 Misdirection fades from Lyriki. |
| 03:37.09 | nymbia | yeah, buff on both players |
| 03:37.36 | Funkeh` | i had the same problem when adding the cooldown to bw_commonauras |
| 03:37.53 | Funkeh` | i just did it the easy way and when you cast it, take the target |
| 03:38.01 | hyperChipmunk | can't do that |
| 03:38.14 | hyperChipmunk | /cast [target=focus] Misdirection |
| 03:38.33 | hyperChipmunk | i'ma just iterate raid1-raid40 and look for the misdirecion buff that returns a timer for me |
| 03:38.34 | Funkeh` | it still works afaik |
| 03:38.51 | Funkeh` | same for if you click the buff and then a raid frame |
| 03:39.09 | hyperChipmunk | i'll see |
| 03:39.23 | hyperChipmunk | that would be insanely handy |
| 03:39.46 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: don't iterate |
| 03:39.48 | hyperChipmunk | self:Print(UnitName('target') |
| 03:39.55 | hyperChipmunk | ) |
| 03:40.04 | hyperChipmunk | should show the person it was cast on then? |
| 03:40.09 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT has an arg that contains the target's name regardless. |
| 03:40.18 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 03:40.26 | hyperChipmunk | i'm not dealing with an event though |
| 03:40.36 | hyperChipmunk | i'm dealing with what Threat-1.0 hands me |
| 03:40.51 | ckknight | can I add anything to Parser-3.0 that people think of? |
| 03:40.57 | nymbia | can't calculate threat without spellcast events. gotta be in there somewhere |
| 03:41.00 | hyperChipmunk | which is true/nil, based on whether the action is the buff fading |
| 03:41.01 | Funkeh` | i used UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED |
| 03:41.31 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: Actually you get UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED to your module through spell CastHandlers |
| 03:41.59 | nymbia | well, it's be an awful waste to iterate 40 buffs on 25 units to get the target, when all you need to do is read a return. |
| 03:42.10 | Funkeh` | ya :p |
| 03:42.16 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: But currently only rank and spellname are passed |
| 03:42.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37305 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - don't do a logged in check |
| 03:43.38 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: We can allow the target to be passed, one second |
| 03:43.43 | hyperChipmunk | Gagorian: i was doing it with ClassBuffs, not CastHandlers |
| 03:44.08 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: Yes but you'll want the target through the handler, it should work using both |
| 03:44.15 | hyperChipmunk | /nod |
| 03:44.18 | hyperChipmunk | that's what i was thinking |
| 03:44.22 | Gagorian | As in, getting target through the handler |
| 03:44.26 | Gagorian | and the rest as the buff |
| 03:44.30 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 03:44.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37306 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - fix ThreatLib upvalue |
| 03:45.09 | hyperChipmunk | seems i tried that though, and couldn't get it to trigger with a casthandler |
| 03:45.18 | hyperChipmunk | maybe that was something else though |
| 03:45.35 | hyperChipmunk | oh, because it didn't have rank |
| 03:45.43 | hyperChipmunk | so i didn't get anything passed to it =P |
| 03:46.10 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37307 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: - Passes UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED target to the module CastHandlers as arg2 |
| 03:46.26 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 03:47.14 | hyperChipmunk | no, it still doesn't trigger on CastHandlers |
| 03:47.26 | aen` | is there a way to reskin the nameplates over npc heads? |
| 03:47.27 | hyperChipmunk | i suck at coding |
| 03:47.34 | hyperChipmunk | aen`: aloft |
| 03:47.35 | Gagorian | oh |
| 03:47.46 | Gagorian | SUCCEEDED doesn't have target |
| 03:47.52 | Gagorian | it needs spellcast_sent |
| 03:47.53 | Antiarc | No it doesn't :P |
| 03:48.00 | Antiarc | Why not just read the buff on yourself? |
| 03:48.05 | Antiarc | When you cast the buff look at your target. |
| 03:48.17 | hyperChipmunk | because i'm not targetting what i cast it on |
| 03:48.21 | nymbia | it's not necessarily cast on your target |
| 03:48.22 | Antiarc | Oh, right, focus. |
| 03:48.29 | nymbia | focus, or click-cast? |
| 03:48.34 | Antiarc | Right, right. |
| 03:48.35 | hyperChipmunk | normally it's 'party1', 'focus', or 'pet' |
| 03:48.38 | hyperChipmunk | or 'mouseover' |
| 03:48.39 | Funkeh` | sent = player, spell, rank, target |
| 03:48.42 | Funkeh` | i think |
| 03:48.45 | Antiarc | I'm in the middle of overhauling that entire part of the file |
| 03:48.47 | hyperChipmunk | i'm just gonna iterate |
| 03:48.51 | Antiarc | So it's transactional to deal with resists and stuff |
| 03:48.57 | Funkeh` | you suck |
| 03:49.02 | hyperChipmunk | it can only happen once per two minutes per hunter |
| 03:49.12 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: >.< |
| 03:49.16 | Antiarc | Make it work, then make it fast. :) |
| 03:49.16 | hyperChipmunk | unless they're 41 survival |
| 03:49.18 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: wasteful. |
| 03:49.20 | Funkeh` | seriously jsut sue sent |
| 03:49.20 | hyperChipmunk | then twice =P |
| 03:49.28 | Funkeh` | use8 |
| 03:49.43 | hyperChipmunk | i'm trying to conform to the style =P |
| 03:49.46 | hyperChipmunk | ok fine |
| 03:50.00 | nymbia | the style needs to include UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT. |
| 03:50.02 | Antiarc | If you need UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, I'll add that. |
| 03:50.08 | hyperChipmunk | can I do self:RegisterEvent in my module? |
| 03:50.17 | Antiarc | Again, I'm working on transactions for spellcasts, so I can just add that to the transaction data |
| 03:50.17 | nymbia | that's gonna be crucial info if multi-target tracking is ever implemented, anyway. |
| 03:50.22 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: Yes, I gave class modules AceEvent on purpose |
| 03:50.28 | hyperChipmunk | ah, beauty |
| 03:50.29 | Antiarc | nymbia: Mult-target tracking is in. |
| 03:50.37 | nymbia | Antiarc: cheats! ;) |
| 03:50.38 | hyperChipmunk | i'll use that for now |
| 03:50.42 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Can't we use "UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT" instead of "UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED" |
| 03:51.00 | Funkeh` | i think you need both for misdirection |
| 03:51.05 | Antiarc | Gagorian: I'm only leery of spellcasts that fail for some reason. |
| 03:51.10 | nymbia | be carefule with SENT |
| 03:51.11 | Antiarc | So SENT fires, but SUCCEEDED doesn't, or something |
| 03:51.16 | nymbia | those can fail |
| 03:51.19 | Funkeh` | if they fail |
| 03:51.21 | hyperChipmunk | *cry* |
| 03:51.31 | nymbia | just grab the target from it and wait for the next _SUCCEEDED |
| 03:51.35 | Funkeh` | use both and you are golden |
| 03:51.39 | Antiarc | Well |
| 03:51.45 | Antiarc | Again, I'm working on spell transactions |
| 03:51.52 | Antiarc | So I can provide that info if you'll give me a bit longer :) |
| 03:51.55 | hyperChipmunk | ok |
| 03:52.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37308 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - optimization to :UnitIsUnit |
| 03:52.07 | hyperChipmunk | i'll just leave it unimplemented for now |
| 03:52.11 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:52.16 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37309 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: - Reverted last commit |
| 03:52.27 | Gagorian | well, not yours ckk :> |
| 03:52.34 | nymbia | i was gonna say |
| 03:52.35 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 03:52.37 | ckknight | oh, okay |
| 03:52.38 | nymbia | that was fast ;) |
| 03:52.40 | Funkeh` | it was different files |
| 03:52.47 | nymbia | Funkeh`: SSH |
| 03:52.55 | Funkeh` | >> |
| 03:54.07 | ckknight | Antiarc: you are using del(t) horribly, horribly, horribly wrong. |
| 03:54.21 | Antiarc | ckknight: I was afraid I was, but I didn't test it |
| 03:54.25 | Antiarc | Bad me, I know. |
| 03:54.34 | ckknight | del(self.threatTargets[player]) is bad. |
| 03:54.43 | ckknight | self.threatTargets[player] = del(self.threatTargets[player]) is what you want |
| 03:54.49 | Antiarc | Aha, ok. |
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| 03:59.49 | a-stray-cat | is notification gone from parser 3.0? |
| 04:00.54 | theoddone33 | pretty sure I just saw a 70 hunter try to solo a fel reaver |
| 04:01.01 | xlvii | any linux kids willing to help me out? http://pastey.net/42563 |
| 04:01.29 | Diao | bsd isn't linux! |
| 04:01.57 | Diao | but i can answer those still :P |
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| 04:02.36 | theoddone33 | schoolwork? tsk tsk |
| 04:02.38 | aen` | zomg those are easy questions |
| 04:02.42 | Gngsk | heh |
| 04:02.57 | Diao | but the question is |
| 04:03.03 | Diao | will you learn it if we tell you the answer! |
| 04:03.25 | xlvii | i don't need to learn it. |
| 04:03.27 | aen` | if youre a comp major you should already know those |
| 04:03.29 | Gngsk | you can google for all those answers |
| 04:03.30 | xlvii | it's for a trainee ship |
| 04:03.31 | xlvii | :P |
| 04:03.34 | xlvii | traineeship. |
| 04:03.38 | xlvii | and my school doesn't use linux. |
| 04:03.48 | aen` | u dont even need to use linux to know that |
| 04:03.48 | aen` | lol |
| 04:03.52 | hyperChipmunk | shameful |
| 04:03.53 | xlvii | i've figured them out now anyway |
| 04:03.54 | xlvii | :P |
| 04:04.02 | sdouble | heh |
| 04:04.10 | xlvii | i'm just lazy, and tired. |
| 04:04.10 | Gngsk | http://aplawrence.com/Basics/perms.html |
| 04:04.10 | xlvii | ;p |
| 04:04.27 | Gngsk | xlvii, that answers 42! |
| 04:05.05 | xlvii | ;p |
| 04:05.06 | theoddone33 | I actually don't know the answer to number 1 |
| 04:05.16 | xlvii | me either, ack. |
| 04:05.17 | theoddone33 | it's either kind of vague or I don't understand the phrasing |
| 04:05.36 | xlvii | 41. is r – read, w – write, x - execute, right? |
| 04:05.36 | xlvii | ;p |
| 04:06.19 | hyperChipmunk | yea i only know two kinds |
| 04:06.19 | theoddone33 | I'd believe so |
| 04:06.22 | xlvii | 43. allows the user to change file system modes of files and directories, including permissions and special modes. |
| 04:06.22 | hyperChipmunk | admins and lusers |
| 04:06.45 | theoddone33 | could be world, user, group, given the context |
| 04:07.23 | durcyn | ugo is the posix format for it though |
| 04:09.05 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 04:09.13 | theoddone33 | I think that's the answer, just can't think of the exact terms it'd want |
| 04:13.31 | Antiarc | I'm gonna go take a break. My brain is running itself in circles and I think I'm doing it wrong. |
| 04:13.36 | Antiarc | Back later :) |
| 04:14.13 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37310 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: - No longer stores last cast spell if it doesn't have a cast handler |
| 04:14.40 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Catch you later :) |
| 04:18.35 | Funkeh` | im off aswell |
| 04:18.36 | Funkeh` | later |
| 04:20.31 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37311 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - make sure to clear the metatable on del |
| 04:21.34 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37312 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - be sure to clear the reference when deleting a table. |
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| 04:27.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37313 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - HexCheckSum should be local, not global |
| 04:27.42 | theoddone33 | just dinged 60... somehow I'm not as excited as I thought I'd be |
| 04:27.45 | theoddone33 | must be the other 10 levels hanging over my head or something, heh |
| 04:27.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37314 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - cache results of HexCheckSum |
| 04:27.47 | ckknight | theoddone33: *shrug* |
| 04:29.03 | hyperChipmunk | /kick ckknight excess flood |
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| 04:33.28 | Wobwork | hyperChipmunk: Feh, why bother? his internet connection will do that anyway =P |
| 04:33.33 | Wobwork | see? =) |
| 04:34.04 | ckknight_ | power outage |
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| 04:39.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37315 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/ (7 files): Threat-1.0 - assorted small optimizations. |
| 04:43.27 | CIA-22 | 03whitetooth * r37316 10TipHookerLib/TipHooker-1.0/TipHooker-1.0.lua: |
| 04:43.41 | CIA-22 | TipHookerLib: |
| 04:43.42 | CIA-22 | - Removed 2.1.0 transition code |
| 04:43.42 | CIA-22 | - Added checks before hooking |
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| 04:43.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 04:43.56 | ckknight | hey MoonWolf |
| 04:46.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37317 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ThreatBuffsData.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - fix indentation |
| 04:58.51 | CIA-22 | 03stormfx * r37318 10cyCircled_Onyx/ (. ReadMe.txt libs/): |
| 04:58.52 | CIA-22 | cyCircled_Onyx: |
| 04:58.52 | CIA-22 | - Updated ReadMe |
| 04:58.52 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up externals. |
| 04:58.52 | Cryect | man is that enough commits on threat-1.0 by ckknight >_> |
| 04:58.52 | ckknight | ...no |
| 04:58.52 | Cryect | haha :-p |
| 04:58.53 | tsigo | he does lots of little ones to pad his numbers! |
| 04:58.53 | Cryect | actually surprised no commit within the past 15 minutes |
| 05:06.54 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37319 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 05:06.54 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0 - optimizations. make partyUnits update on RAID_ROSTER_CHANGED, UNIT_PET, and PLAYER_PET_CHANGED. |
| 05:06.54 | CIA-22 | - Make partyUnits use raidpet1 instead of raid1pet. |
| 05:06.54 | CIA-22 | - partyUnits should set things in the correct order so that pets are set first, then players, allowing for a situation where UnitName("raidpet5") == UnitName("raid6"), it goes with raid6 instead of raidpet5. |
| 05:07.49 | ckknight | I will make sure that Threat-1.0 is efficient |
| 05:08.05 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 05:08.37 | ckknight | wondering if I should work on KTM interop yet |
| 05:08.49 | hyperChipmunk | like the warlock on my server with the same name as his voidwalker |
| 05:09.07 | ckknight | ...lol |
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| 05:09.33 | hyperChipmunk | he made a name he knew would get reported |
| 05:09.40 | ckknight | lol. |
| 05:09.43 | hyperChipmunk | when the GM asked him for a new name |
| 05:09.51 | hyperChipmunk | he gave him his voidwalker's name |
| 05:10.04 | zac | hunters always name their pets after me. sw-stats picks it up as them, and they get a huge boost. :( |
| 05:10.08 | hyperChipmunk | messes up all kinds of stuff |
| 05:10.25 | ckknight | zac: sw-stats is poorly programmed, then |
| 05:10.33 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 05:10.37 | hyperChipmunk | heh, only hunters i've had named after me were on the opposing faction |
| 05:10.43 | ckknight | does Violation listen to swstats stuff, btw? |
| 05:10.43 | hyperChipmunk | er, hunter pets |
| 05:10.45 | CIA-22 | 03stormfx * r37320 10cyCircled/ (. libs/ textures/GoldOrbs/ textures/Vol/): |
| 05:10.45 | CIA-22 | cyCircled: |
| 05:10.46 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up externals. |
| 05:10.46 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up textures. |
| 05:10.50 | ckknight | comm interop, I mean |
| 05:11.16 | tsigo | ckknight: nope |
| 05:12.57 | sedatedChipmunk | you should just spew crap data to KTM |
| 05:13.09 | sedatedChipmunk | keep resetting everyone else's threat to 0 or something |
| 05:14.06 | tsigo | I wonder if it checks whose value it's updating against who's sending it |
| 05:14.42 | durcyn | based on what i've seen, they assume combat log range is infinite and hope for the best |
| 05:15.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37321 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - toUnitID should set things in the correct order so that pets are set first, then players, allowing for a situation where UnitName("raidpet5") == UnitName("raid6"), it goes with raid6 instead of raidpet5. |
| 05:15.30 | sedatedChipmunk | "hey guys, how come all your threat meters say 'Kenco is a jerktard'?" |
| 05:15.41 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: lol |
| 05:15.42 | Cryect | haha |
| 05:15.57 | Cryect | Special Threat-1.0 feature! |
| 05:16.29 | durcyn | ckknight: Threat-1.0.lua:33: attempt to index upvalue 'NumericCheckSum' (a function value) |
| 05:16.34 | durcyn | ^ r37317 |
| 05:16.57 | ckknight | durcyn: v--- |
| 05:16.59 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37322 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - typo |
| 05:17.12 | durcyn | sneaky. |
| 05:17.47 | CIA-22 | 03stormfx * r37323 10cyCircled_Vol/ (. libs/): |
| 05:17.47 | CIA-22 | cyCircled_Vol: |
| 05:17.47 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up externals. |
| 05:18.17 | CIA-22 | 03stormfx * r37324 10cyCircled_GoldOrbs/ (. libs/): |
| 05:18.17 | CIA-22 | cyCircled_GoldOrbs: |
| 05:18.17 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up externals. |
| 05:21.34 | sedatedChipmunk | g'night, losers |
| 05:21.44 | ckknight | oh man, we can totally send phony version numbers |
| 05:22.07 | ckknight | like instead of sending 19.18, we can send 37322.0 |
| 05:22.11 | ckknight | then they'll be out of date. |
| 05:22.13 | ckknight | by quite a bit. |
| 05:22.30 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:23.41 | ckknight | looks like in KTM, he doesn't use the shift key |
| 05:23.43 | ckknight | ...ever |
| 05:24.10 | nymbia | lol |
| 05:24.20 | nymbia | i like how he defines _G.thismod |
| 05:24.25 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r37325 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 05:24.25 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:24.25 | CIA-22 | -Spell: Updated localization koKR |
| 05:24.27 | nymbia | smooth. |
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| 05:24.58 | Wobwork | .... _G.thismod? |
| 05:25.00 | ckknight | yea... |
| 05:25.05 | ckknight | Wobwork: that's KTM |
| 05:25.08 | Wobwork | he puts in a global reference to his mod? |
| 05:25.26 | fatman | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.26 | Wobwork | ... |
| 05:25.29 | Wobwork | Wow |
| 05:25.30 | Diao | o_O |
| 05:25.33 | nymbia | Wobwork: _G.thismod == _G.klhtm |
| 05:25.36 | Wobwork | I'm glad I was here for -that- |
| 05:25.47 | Wobwork | but... but... |
| 05:25.57 | nymbia | lol |
| 05:26.39 | Wobwork | ... why does he do that? |
| 05:26.46 | nymbia | because he's amazing. |
| 05:27.00 | Wobwork | is there some esoteric reasoning that's escaping me for duplicating a global reference? |
| 05:27.20 | ckknight | no, just idiocy |
| 05:27.33 | Wobwork | that really sums it all up, doesn't it? |
| 05:27.56 | ckknight | oh man |
| 05:28.05 | ckknight | he uses global arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4 for his events |
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| 05:29.44 | sedatedChipmunk | quote from the author: "I was inspired in sprit by Wobin, whom I admire greatly" |
| 05:29.44 | nymbia | burn |
| 05:29.59 | Wobwork | oh hey |
| 05:30.01 | ckknight | ugh |
| 05:30.01 | Wobwork | Admiration |
| 05:30.06 | ckknight | if success == false then |
| 05:30.10 | ckknight | instead of if not success then |
| 05:30.16 | sedatedChipmunk | -- Special threat modifiers for druids |
| 05:30.18 | sedatedChipmunk | if mod.my.class == "druid" then |
| 05:30.19 | ckknight | this guy just don't know how to optimize |
| 05:30.20 | sedatedChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.38 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: no shift keys ... anywhere |
| 05:30.38 | sedatedChipmunk | wtf is mod.my.mods |
| 05:30.42 | nymbia | hahaha |
| 05:30.43 | sedatedChipmunk | that too |
| 05:30.54 | ckknight | oh, my is a total ripoff of the VB.NET My framework |
| 05:30.57 | ckknight | if you're familiar |
| 05:31.02 | Wobwork | unfortunately |
| 05:31.08 | sedatedChipmunk | how is My a framework |
| 05:31.21 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: go look it up |
| 05:31.23 | nymbia | did he do a select(2, UnitClass('player')):lower() for the class? |
| 05:31.26 | sedatedChipmunk | no thanks |
| 05:31.29 | ckknight | KTM is coded _VERY_ much like a VB program |
| 05:31.38 | sedatedChipmunk | mod.my.mods |
| 05:31.40 | ckknight | using me instead of self, for instance |
| 05:31.47 | sedatedChipmunk | what's global mod |
| 05:31.51 | ckknight | and my as the helper framework |
| 05:31.54 | sedatedChipmunk | who makes a global mod |
| 05:32.05 | sedatedChipmunk | maybe i have a mod |
| 05:32.13 | sedatedChipmunk | why can my mod not be mod.my |
| 05:32.16 | Wobwork | named.... mod |
| 05:32.18 | ckknight | and he uses mod.error.protectedcall |
| 05:32.20 | ckknight | instead of pcall |
| 05:32.34 | Wobwork | well the global reference is much faster, see? =P |
| 05:33.13 | sedatedChipmunk | well my mod is better |
| 05:33.13 | Wobwork | no no |
| 05:33.13 | Wobwork | mod my is better |
| 05:33.14 | sedatedChipmunk | more deserving of being mod |
| 05:33.14 | sedatedChipmunk | so guess he doesn't get a mod |
| 05:33.14 | Wobwork | modless |
| 05:33.14 | sedatedChipmunk | seriously |
| 05:33.15 | Wobwork | demod'd |
| 05:33.20 | Wobwork | unmodderific |
| 05:33.26 | sedatedChipmunk | i'm gonna put mod=nil in ace |
| 05:33.36 | sedatedChipmunk | like define it for a throwaway |
| 05:33.38 | sedatedChipmunk | use it |
| 05:33.40 | sedatedChipmunk | mod = nil |
| 05:33.54 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: I have no issues . |
| 05:34.12 | sedatedChipmunk | seriously, he deserves it |
| 05:34.17 | ckknight | also, thismod |
| 05:34.38 | ckknight | wait, mod should be math.fmod |
| 05:34.43 | sedatedChipmunk | you use generic globals, you deserve to get stomped on |
| 05:34.44 | sedatedChipmunk | haha |
| 05:34.45 | ckknight | so just do mod = math.fmod |
| 05:35.12 | ckknight | fuck it, I'm doing it, part of me just wants to see the reaction. |
| 05:35.16 | Wobwork | ahaha |
| 05:35.25 | sedatedChipmunk | guys, how come all our threat is between 0 and 9? |
| 05:35.37 | Wobwork | Spinal Tap goes to 11 |
| 05:35.43 | ckknight | lol. |
| 05:36.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37326 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - bugfix |
| 05:37.08 | a-stray-cat | is there a way to get SCT to display the damage your pet takes? |
| 05:37.45 | sedatedChipmunk | i duno, but msbt doesn't do it either, and it's the one thing that really bothers me |
| 05:37.50 | sedatedChipmunk | i really should hack it in |
| 05:38.18 | a-stray-cat | msbt? |
| 05:38.24 | sedatedChipmunk | ~msbt |
| 05:38.37 | purl | msbt is probably Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 05:38.45 | a-stray-cat | i see |
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| 05:44.06 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: actually it looks like he doesn't set _G.mod |
| 05:44.09 | ckknight | just _G.thismod |
| 05:44.21 | Wobwork | mod is a local? |
| 05:45.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37327 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - on AceEvent_FullyInitialized, verify that _G.mod is math.fmod, fix if that's not the case. |
| 05:45.15 | ckknight | Wobwork: yea |
| 05:45.17 | ckknight | local mod |
| 05:45.23 | ckknight | local mod = thismod |
| 05:45.26 | Wobwork | well that's somewhat better |
| 05:45.35 | ckknight | still, thismod... |
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| 05:45.44 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 05:45.46 | nymbia | lol yeah |
| 05:46.01 | Wobwork | I wonder if he was working off a template or something |
| 05:46.07 | ckknight | we'll see how many people complain KTM borked |
| 05:46.28 | Wobwork | well it won't affect them if he scoped it properly |
| 05:46.43 | ckknight | also fun to note that grep thismod in Ace2 doesn't show anything |
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| 05:46.52 | Wobwork | Fancy that =P |
| 05:47.10 | sedatedChipmunk | clearly an oversight |
| 05:47.14 | Wobwork | perhaps cause we have less stupid naming conventions? =P |
| 05:47.27 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, we prefer monkey.banana |
| 05:47.30 | ckknight | actually this won't break anything |
| 05:47.31 | ckknight | blah. |
| 05:47.35 | Wobwork | and throwShit() |
| 05:47.42 | Wobwork | s/Shit/Poop/ |
| 05:47.42 | sedatedChipmunk | rofl |
| 05:47.42 | ckknight | he sets thismod, but makes local mod every file |
| 05:47.47 | ckknight | thismod = getglobal(namespace) |
| 05:47.49 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 05:47.59 | sedatedChipmunk | wut |
| 05:48.13 | Wobwork | Just in case... he's out of globalscope? =P |
| 05:48.19 | Wobwork | cause you never know =P |
| 05:48.40 | sedatedChipmunk | why is this zip file called ...-stuff.zip |
| 05:48.44 | Wobwork | the difference in using this.myfunction and _root.myfunction |
| 05:48.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37328 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - revert last commit |
| 05:48.59 | Wobwork | hehe |
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| 05:49.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 05:49.28 | sedatedChipmunk | i think bulkmail is a 'this' mod |
| 05:49.40 | sedatedChipmunk | i should probably make sure it's specified as such |
| 05:50.05 | Kaelten | howdy |
| 05:50.14 | sedatedChipmunk | wouldn't want anybody to think it's maybe a 'that' mod |
| 05:50.26 | Silviu- | Morning ;) |
| 05:50.49 | Silviu- | Kaelten i think u can change the topic no ? ;) |
| 05:51.13 | ckknight | hey Kaelten |
| 05:51.30 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater |
| 05:51.31 | Wobwork | sedatedChipmunk: Make sure you make KTM a optionalDep so it loads before yours does |
| 05:51.41 | sedatedChipmunk | naturally |
| 05:51.58 | sedatedChipmunk | i know for certain KTM is really a 'that' mod |
| 05:52.45 | sedatedChipmunk | i'm looking for a local unitname = getglobal(UnitName) |
| 05:52.52 | sedatedChipmunk | it's bound to be in there somewhere |
| 05:53.38 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:53.45 | sedatedChipmunk | if he has to use UnitName() a lot, that would help mitigate a lot of heavier ascii |
| 05:53.53 | ckknight | oh man, his framework blows donkeyballs |
| 05:54.00 | sedatedChipmunk | which uses more 1s, and therefore is slower |
| 05:54.00 | ckknight | even the localization framework |
| 05:54.04 | ckknight | so heavy compared to AceLocale-2.2 |
| 05:54.31 | sedatedChipmunk | this is quite a learning experience |
| 05:54.43 | Wobwork | apparantly optimisation is what happens to other people |
| 05:54.56 | sedatedChipmunk | thismod |
| 05:54.57 | ckknight | yes, learn by poor example |
| 05:54.58 | Wobwork | Or perhaps where you see the glass is half full |
| 05:55.02 | sedatedChipmunk | i still can't get over this |
| 05:55.31 | sedatedChipmunk | thanks |
| 05:55.39 | Wobwork | np! |
| 05:56.04 | sedatedChipmunk | ktm_regex.lua |
| 05:56.09 | ckknight | yea... |
| 05:56.10 | sedatedChipmunk | this ought to be enlightening |
| 05:56.24 | ckknight | I'm going through the net stuff |
| 05:56.33 | ckknight | lack of any capitalization makes it hard to read |
| 05:57.10 | sedatedChipmunk | if bosshits == 1 then |
| 05:57.43 | ckknight | dammit, can't find a way to make it say that it should upgrade to Omen/Violation/etc |
| 05:57.44 | sedatedChipmunk | -- Note that <ishit> defaults to false, so we only set it when it is true |
| 05:57.51 | ckknight | since it only accepts numbers as versions |
| 05:58.05 | ckknight | I, Shit |
| 05:58.14 | sedatedChipmunk | false |
| 05:58.25 | sedatedChipmunk | apparently |
| 05:58.39 | Neebler | http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i129/plumnuts/rosey.jpg |
| 05:58.43 | sedatedChipmunk | if description.ishit then me.action.ishit = true end |
| 05:59.08 | sedatedChipmunk | hm |
| 05:59.12 | ckknight | I do like the version request situation, where it will inform you to upgrade if you're out of date |
| 05:59.23 | sedatedChipmunk | i wonder if thismod.ishit = true |
| 05:59.28 | ckknight | lol. |
| 05:59.59 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, especially because everyone on his thread says that teh new versions don't work |
| 06:00.10 | sedatedChipmunk | and you need two versions ago, which can't be downloaded anywhere |
| 06:00.25 | sedatedChipmunk | so you need to get your 'guildie with the old version to msn it to you' |
| 06:00.41 | sedatedChipmunk | oops |
| 06:01.08 | ckknight | well, KTM's comm system is pretty simple |
| 06:01.32 | ckknight | t 123 means that you have 123 threat |
| 06:01.46 | sedatedChipmunk | t 9999999999999999 |
| 06:01.55 | sedatedChipmunk | t 0 |
| 06:01.56 | sedatedChipmunk | t 9999999999999999 |
| 06:01.57 | sedatedChipmunk | t 0 |
| 06:02.24 | ckknight | oh yea, keep switching |
| 06:02.27 | ckknight | or maybe just send out random values |
| 06:02.36 | ckknight | every 0.1 or so |
| 06:02.46 | sedatedChipmunk | 'dude, why is your bar flashing?' |
| 06:02.47 | ckknight | sadly, you can't set other people's values. |
| 06:02.52 | Nimble | anyone ever have issues with prat not wanting to remember specific people |
| 06:02.54 | sedatedChipmunk | 'it means i need a heal' |
| 06:02.55 | Nimble | or actually, 1 person |
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| 06:04.07 | sedatedChipmunk | this regex.lua has nothing to do with regex |
| 06:04.14 | ckknight | yep. |
| 06:04.16 | sedatedChipmunk | it might be a deformat? |
| 06:04.17 | Wobwork | oh man, the aggro bar =) |
| 06:04.42 | jwwpua | can someone help me with updating Gladiator player data? |
| 06:08.43 | Silviu- | Hmm |
| 06:09.09 | Silviu- | I got 8 crashes when loging in |
| 06:09.15 | Silviu- | After loading screen crash |
| 06:09.28 | Silviu- | Then disabled Pitbull and i could enter :/ |
| 06:11.10 | Silviu- | ckk it`s a bliz bug ? |
| 06:11.57 | ckknight | any crash is a blizz bug |
| 06:12.08 | ckknight | bug the wow forums |
| 06:12.18 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: yea, it's similar |
| 06:12.44 | Wobwork | is it the mip bug? |
| 06:12.51 | Wobwork | basemip |
| 06:13.05 | Silviu- | No, somehow that line disapear from my config |
| 06:13.13 | Silviu- | I add it and after it disapear |
| 06:16.08 | sedatedChipmunk | i.am.going.tobed.now.good.night |
| 06:16.22 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk.ishit = true |
| 06:16.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37329 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - receive KLHTM's messages, currently doesn't do anything of real substance. |
| 06:16.33 | sedatedChipmunk | >8( |
| 06:16.41 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:16.43 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk:Hug() |
| 06:17.22 | Antiarc | Okay, back and ready to kick this spell transactioning's ass. |
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| 06:18.56 | theoddone33 | I've got this mod MCP that lets me view and enable/disable addons and reload ui without relogging, but it's old and the thing says it's eating a lot of cpu/mem |
| 06:19.05 | theoddone33 | is there anything like that using ace? |
| 06:19.19 | ckknight | Antiarc: *wave* |
| 06:19.36 | ckknight | Antiarc: not sure how to handle KTM messages, as all they send is a raw number, no target stuff |
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| 06:20.33 | CIA-22 | 03whitetooth * r37330 10RatingBuster/ (7 files): |
| 06:20.33 | CIA-22 | RatingBuster: 1.2.2 |
| 06:20.33 | CIA-22 | - New option to hide the StatSummary title |
| 06:20.33 | CIA-22 | - New option to hide the sigma icon in the StatSummary title |
| 06:20.33 | CIA-22 | - New option to add a empty line after the StatSummary |
| 06:20.33 | CIA-22 | - Updated Taiwan localization |
| 06:20.35 | CIA-22 | - Other localizations needs to be updated |
| 06:21.11 | Antiarc | ckknight: Likely because KTM doesn't track by target |
| 06:21.15 | Antiarc | I think the only interop we can expect is to pick it up for the master target when a master target is set. |
| 06:21.20 | Antiarc | Alternately - |
| 06:21.27 | Antiarc | We could assume that KTM's numbers apply to all targets |
| 06:21.42 | Antiarc | That makes it no worse than KTM, at least. |
| 06:21.55 | Antiarc | So you have KTM-level compat with KTM, and better compat with Threat |
| 06:22.20 | durcyn | look at his "master target" code first |
| 06:22.35 | durcyn | the data it sends might be otherwise filtered |
| 06:35.52 | Primer | Hey! Cartographer PVP points work again! |
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| 06:35.53 | Antiarc | Mmm. This transactioning code is going to be ugly. Lots of table churn. |
| 06:35.53 | theoddone33 | sweet |
| 06:35.53 | Adirelle | hi there |
| 06:35.53 | Antiarc | Can recycle 'em, but still, ugly. |
| 06:35.53 | Adirelle | is there any way to undelete a directory in SVN ? |
| 06:35.53 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Try looking at an earlier revision of the parent directory |
| 06:35.53 | Antiarc | Dunno if that'll work, but it's a good bet. |
| 06:35.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37331 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - add ThreatLib:SendKLHTMMessage(command [, data]), could be useful later. |
| 06:35.53 | ckknight | Adirelle: checkout to a specific version, then commit |
| 06:35.54 | ckknight | Antiarc: feel free to make it ugly and I'll try to hack it to be nice |
| 06:35.54 | Wobwork | theoddone33: ACP? |
| 06:35.54 | kergoth | ooh some form of ktm interop would be sexy |
| 06:35.54 | ckknight | kergoth: gonna at least listen, potentially send out _some_ info |
| 06:35.54 | Antiarc | I just want it to -work- right now. This is...well, going to be rough. |
| 06:35.54 | theoddone33 | Wobwork: sounds promising |
| 06:35.54 | Schmidt | Would it be difficult for someone to explain how pairs() works in Lua? Especially I have in mind the way EavesDrop uses it. |
| 06:35.54 | Antiarc | Mostly because you aren't guaranteed an event to signal the end of a transaction |
| 06:35.54 | theoddone33 | I'll give it a shot |
| 06:35.54 | Wobwork | Adirelle: That's the only way |
| 06:35.54 | Wobwork | in what Antiarc suggested |
| 06:35.54 | ckknight | Schmidt: basically, it iterates through all the keys/values in a table |
| 06:35.54 | Wobwork | check out a previous revision |
| 06:35.55 | MikkZzz | Primer: Good, thanks. I was hoping that my changes would fix that. |
| 06:35.55 | Wobwork | and recheck it in |
| 06:35.55 | Mikk | Schmidt? WoWWiki Schmidt? |
| 06:35.55 | Schmidt | yeah lol |
| 06:35.55 | Mikk | \o/ |
| 06:35.55 | Mikk | Hey, long time no see =) |
| 06:35.55 | ckknight | Schmidt: say you have a table t = { a = 'b', c = 'd' }, pairs(t) actually turns into next, t, nil |
| 06:35.55 | Schmidt | No kidding |
| 06:35.55 | Wobwork | hm |
| 06:35.55 | ckknight | Schmidt: and next(t, nil) gives 'a', 'b' |
| 06:35.57 | Wobwork | ~seen cmdrtaco |
| 06:37.54 | purl | cmdrtaco <n=CmdrTaco@ip199-194.digitalrealm.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 94d 15h 53m 37s ago, saying: 'oh, if anyone wants ideas... i love the closetgnome/baggins thing. wish Outfitter had the same.'. |
| 06:37.54 | ckknight | Schmidt: so next(t, 'a') gives 'c', 'd' |
| 06:37.55 | ckknight | Schmidt: and next(t, 'c') gives nil |
| 06:37.55 | ckknight | Schmidt: and that's how it iterates |
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| 06:37.56 | Schmidt | ckknight: I don't suppose you would care to explain that. lol |
| 06:37.56 | Mikk | for x,y in pairs({a=1, b=2}) do print x.." is ".."y"; end |
| 06:37.56 | ckknight | Schmidt: http://www.lua.org/pil; |
| 06:37.56 | Wobwork | Schmidt: What's your coding language background? |
| 06:37.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37332 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - optimization |
| 06:37.56 | Mikk | > a = 1 |
| 06:37.56 | Mikk | > b = 2 |
| 06:37.56 | Mikk | Done |
| 06:37.56 | Wobwork | well |
| 06:37.56 | Mikk | Though possibly in another order |
| 06:37.56 | Wobwork | if you replace the= with 'is' |
| 06:37.56 | Mikk | Oof =) |
| 06:37.56 | Schmidt | ckknight: EavesDrop uses a 1-column array rather than a matrix. |
| 06:37.57 | Schmidt | Wobwork: My background is BASIC lol |
| 06:37.57 | ckknight | Schmidt: I never mentioned matrices |
| 06:37.57 | Mikk | Hehe, yeah, basic doesn't do a heck of a lot of tables :S |
| 06:37.57 | ckknight | Schmidt: what I showed you was a dictionary, not a list |
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| 06:37.57 | ckknight | Schmidt: to mess with a list, use ipairs instead of pairs |
| 06:37.57 | Wobwork | Schmidt: in that case it will return the iterator and the value, so if you have a list of values pairs returns (1, Value1), (2, Value2) etc |
| 06:37.57 | Schmidt | ckknight: Right, you didn't. Hmmm. Do you know right off how EavesDrop uses in pairs()? |
| 06:37.57 | ckknight | for i, v in ipairs({ 'a', 'b', 'c' }) do print(v) end |
| 06:37.57 | ckknight | > a |
| 06:37.59 | ckknight | > b |
| 06:37.59 | ckknight | > c |
| 06:37.59 | ckknight | Schmidt: lemme check |
| 06:37.59 | Wobwork | i will be 1,2 and 3 respectively |
| 06:37.59 | ckknight | Schmidt: firstly, it should be using ipairs, not pairs. |
| 06:38.00 | ckknight | Schmidt: they're functionally the same for lists, but ipairs is more efficient |
| 06:38.00 | Schmidt | I'm trying to read several different addons to get a feel for writing my own, and it's really odd seeing what EavesDrop does. |
| 06:38.00 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r37333 10Violation_CombatLogRange/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Violation_CombatLogRange: revived ! (since CBR CVars should work again in 2.1) |
| 06:38.00 | ckknight | Schmidt: do you have a lua interpreter handy? |
| 06:38.00 | Schmidt | ckknight: no |
| 06:38.00 | kergoth | Adirelle, ooh, they work again? |
| 06:38.00 | ckknight | get one |
| 06:38.00 | Wobwork | ckknight is my lua interpreter =) |
| 06:38.00 | Mikk | http://www.wowinterface.com/ <- search fur "Lua" |
| 06:38.00 | Adirelle | kergoth: what I heard, still have to check |
| 06:38.00 | Schmidt | lol |
| 06:38.00 | Adirelle | it looks like I'll really have to check it myself :/ |
| 06:38.00 | Schmidt | I'll check out Mikk's suggestion. It should help. |
| 06:38.01 | Mikk | But, yeah, http://www.lua.org/pil/ is pretty much the authorative resource on lua coding |
| 06:38.12 | Schmidt | I've been reading that. In light of EavesDrop especially (since that's what I was looking at atm) I was confused. |
| 06:38.12 | Mikk | The one oddity that's gonna trip you up with Lua and WoW is that a Lua file is actually _executed_ when it loads |
| 06:38.12 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r37334 10Violation_CombatLogRange/Violation_CombatLogRange.lua: Violation_CombatLogRange: fixed activation check. |
| 06:38.12 | Mikk | So you can have directly executed code on load time |
| 06:38.12 | Mikk | But then when WoW is running, nothing's actually executing nonstop |
| 06:38.12 | Mikk | Everything happens in response to events |
| 06:38.13 | Mikk | User interface-driven ones (OnClick, OnMouseOVer, etc), or game events (OnEvent "CHAT_MSG_..." stuff, for example) |
| 06:39.07 | Mikk | And not to mention the "everything is a reference" thing that's certainly going to trip you up coming from a BASIC world |
| 06:39.27 | Mikk | Tables, functions, etc are all references that can be passed around |
| 06:39.31 | Adirelle | I wouldn't be the one that will implement pets in threat-1.0 but i'll happy to test it :p |
| 06:39.47 | Mikk | A function doesn't end up calling anything until you put () after it |
| 06:40.08 | Schmidt | lol |
| 06:40.34 | jwwpua | why do some Ace addons have Ace subdirectories in them? |
| 06:40.35 | Schmidt | I'll show you my latest code, and you can let me know what you think, eh? |
| 06:40.43 | ckknight | jwwpua: what do you mean? |
| 06:40.45 | ckknight | Schmidt: pastey |
| 06:40.54 | ckknight | ace.pastey.net |
| 06:40.54 | Schmidt | I'm on it, ckk :) |
| 06:41.17 | Schmidt | http://ace.pastey.net/42678-3ubd and btw, what's the importance of securing the url? |
| 06:41.25 | Mikk | jwwpua: most all Ace addons have them. Instead of requiring that Ace is installed standalone, the library is _embedded_. That way you only ever have to download the addon itself. |
| 06:41.46 | jwwpua | ckknight: such as AltClickToAddItem. it has Libs\AceAddon (AceEvent, AceHook, etc) within the addon folder |
| 06:41.50 | Mikk | jwwpua: It means that the distribution files becomes larger, but in-game, it detects that there's multiple copies of the same thing and only ever usese one. |
| 06:42.31 | Mikk | The only drawback is that loading times become somewhat longer. That's why some of us choose to nuke the embedded versions and keep only global ones (like you were used to seeing earlier) |
| 06:42.35 | Schmidt | jwwpua: however, load time is still increased the more ace addons you have -- however, the actual memory consumption after the first garbage collection is as though only one instance of each library was loaded |
| 06:42.46 | Adirelle | gtg to work, bye |
| 06:43.02 | ckknight | jwwpua: embedded libraries |
| 06:43.03 | jwwpua | is it possible to see which addons use the most memory, and which ones take the longest to load? |
| 06:43.09 | Schmidt | jwwpua: for me, I have tons of ace addons. my load time before I disembedded was astronomical. now, not so much :) |
| 06:43.24 | ckknight | jwwpua: FuBar_PerformanceFu |
| 06:43.36 | jwwpua | Schmidt: can you disembedd them automatically? |
| 06:43.45 | Wobwork | hm, it's been 3 months since cmdrtaco came in =P |
| 06:43.45 | Mikk | Use WoWAceUpdater |
| 06:43.50 | jwwpua | I do |
| 06:43.52 | Mikk | It'll disembed them for you |
| 06:43.58 | Mikk | "Install without externals" then |
| 06:44.00 | ckknight | jwwpua: set to not use embeds |
| 06:44.02 | ckknight | right. |
| 06:44.04 | jwwpua | ohh ok |
| 06:44.06 | Schmidt | jwwpua: Yeah, go with Mikk. However, select !!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 06:44.10 | jwwpua | so THAT'S what that option means.. |
| 06:44.13 | Schmidt | lol ya |
| 06:44.33 | Kaelten | --[[ |
| 06:44.34 | Mikk | Yeah, select "!!!StandaloneLibraries" to be installed. That's a package that installs the libraries standalone. |
| 06:44.37 | jwwpua | will it delete embedded ones if they exist? (with "install without externals") |
| 06:44.45 | Mikk | no |
| 06:44.49 | durcyn | turn off the version check temporarily for that |
| 06:44.52 | ckknight | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=106733807&sid=1 |
| 06:44.55 | Mikk | delete addons and reinstall |
| 06:45.00 | Schmidt | jwwpua: only if you select "reinstall all" and "ignore version check" |
| 06:45.09 | Mikk | or that |
| 06:45.13 | Mikk | =) |
| 06:45.20 | Kaelten | I'm picking up a odd invisible character at the beinning of some of the files I checked out from the svn |
| 06:45.21 | Schmidt | it's better, so you don't delete any non-ace mods |
| 06:45.45 | Mikk | Kaelten: It's the UTF-8 marker |
| 06:45.48 | jwwpua | I have 1.8, but it keeps saying an updated version is available. I got this version by using 1.7 to d/l it |
| 06:45.49 | Kaelten | I'm loading in UTF-8 so I'm not sure what it could be |
| 06:45.51 | vhaarr | Kaelten: It's UTF-8 stuff. |
| 06:45.53 | ckknight | Kaelten: UTF-8 BOM |
| 06:45.54 | Schmidt | Kaelten: Who gave you Detect Lesser Invisibility? |
| 06:45.58 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:46.01 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 06:46.02 | Mikk | hehe |
| 06:46.10 | Schmidt | I had to |
| 06:46.16 | Kaelten | k, weird that eclipse wouldn't recognize it |
| 06:46.24 | Kaelten | maybe its lua clipse thats messing it up |
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| 06:46.34 | jwwpua | wait so do i really want the !!!standalone... ? |
| 06:46.38 | Mikk | yes |
| 06:46.41 | vhaarr | Mikk sucks |
| 06:46.51 | Mikk | otherwise you end up with zero copies of libraries, and stuff breaks =P |
| 06:46.59 | Mikk | vhaarr: this is not news |
| 06:47.05 | vhaarr | :P |
| 06:47.13 | Iceroth | how much of a load time save are we talking about here? i've been lazy and using embedded and being happy with it |
| 06:47.24 | Mikk | Iceroth: Factor of two |
| 06:47.27 | Mikk | Or better |
| 06:47.31 | Schmidt | Ok. I downloaded http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5300-Lua5.1.1WoW.html and there's no executables. Do I need to download something else to use it, or did I just download something that I didn't need to? lol |
| 06:47.42 | jwwpua | SkipSVNWorkingCopies, T/F? |
| 06:47.53 | Schmidt | Iceroth: purely dependent on how many addons you have |
| 06:48.12 | Schmidt | jwwpua: i'd say false; that's not relevant, in any case |
| 06:48.13 | Mikk | Schmidt: look deeper. there's actually executables in there |
| 06:48.20 | jwwpua | i've got 63 Ace addons |
| 06:48.26 | Mikk | disembed ftw |
| 06:48.27 | Schmidt | jwwpua: yeah disembed lol |
| 06:48.29 | Kaelten | ya I think its luaclipse's debugger |
| 06:48.49 | jwwpua | Deletebeforeextracting? |
| 06:49.06 | Schmidt | jwwpua yeah |
| 06:49.39 | jwwpua | skipversioncheck and upgradesettings? |
| 06:49.47 | Iceroth | around 70 or so ace addons :p |
| 06:50.00 | Mikk | disembed >.< |
| 06:50.03 | Schmidt | jwwpua: skipversioncheck for the first time when disembedding; after that reenable it |
| 06:50.17 | Schmidt | jwwpua: i don't know about upgradesettings. i don't remember ever seeing that |
| 06:50.41 | jwwpua | skipversioncheck = true 1st time, then false? |
| 06:50.46 | Schmidt | right |
| 06:51.03 | Wobwork | Schmidt: just get lua 5.1 from www.lua.org |
| 06:51.06 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r37335 10OneRing/ (.project OneRing.toc): |
| 06:51.06 | CIA-22 | OneRing - |
| 06:51.06 | CIA-22 | Updating TOC # and adding .project file |
| 06:51.22 | Schmidt | Mikk: OK. I got a black screen. I don't like black screens. lol |
| 06:51.29 | Wobwork | cause that package just needs to be compiled |
| 06:51.29 | Mikk | Tough shit =) |
| 06:51.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37336 10ParserLib/ParserLib.toc: ParserLib - specify Parser-3.0 as an optional dependency, because of Parser-3.0's compat layer. |
| 06:51.56 | Mikk | Schmidt: It's a command line tool. So out in cmd.exe and "lua.exe mylittleluafile.lua" |
| 06:51.58 | ckknight | Kaelten: I find Eclipse to be a bit too heavy for my tastes |
| 06:51.58 | Schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.59 | jwwpua | Schmidt: ok did all those settings, checked !!!standalone. now "install without externals" and that's it? |
| 06:52.05 | Mikk | Yes |
| 06:52.13 | Schmidt | yes, jww |
| 06:52.20 | Kaelten | ckknight: I use it for python, and I'm tired of having multiple editors for everything |
| 06:52.33 | Wobwork | oh wait, it has the lua511wow/msvc/release |
| 06:52.37 | Mikk | Wobwork: cogwheel's lua for teh win. it's got wow compatible stuff in it |
| 06:52.39 | ckknight | Kaelten: ah, alright |
| 06:52.57 | Kaelten | its feature rich and runs on all my oses and can work in all the languages |
| 06:53.24 | Kaelten | I'm also thinking of trying to get an effort to make luacliplse more viable going, but thats further down the road |
| 06:53.45 | jwwpua | Schmidt: k done. now just change SkipVersionCheck to false and i'm done? and always install w/o externals from now on |
| 06:53.52 | Wobwork | Hey Mikk, did WheresMyCow end up working? |
| 06:53.59 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37337 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.toc: Parser-3.0 - add ## X-AceLibrary-Parser-3.0: true to TOC |
| 06:54.24 | Mikk | Wobwork: Actually, I found my mistake. I had my frame living on framelevel 0. No bloody wonder nothing was working >.< |
| 06:54.53 | Wobwork | I need to finish WMC up and document it more throughly |
| 06:55.42 | Schmidt | jwwpua: yes |
| 06:55.47 | Wobwork | has secureframes stuff changed over 2.1? |
| 06:55.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37338 10Parser-3.0/ (Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua Parser-3.0.toc): Parser-3.0 - add rophy to credits |
| 06:55.54 | Wobwork | Cause it was a nightmare before |
| 06:56.02 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r37339 10ArkInventory/ (5 files): |
| 06:56.02 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 06:56.03 | CIA-22 | - 1.34 |
| 06:56.03 | ckknight | Wobwork: still a nightmare |
| 06:56.03 | jwwpua | Schmidt: hrm, that addon still has those Libs |
| 06:56.20 | Kaelten | g'night guys |
| 06:56.24 | Wobwork | It just seems a concept I can't quite get my mind around |
| 06:56.26 | Schmidt | jwwpua i dont' know what to say, but most addons shouldn't, right? |
| 06:56.30 | Wobwork | comprehensively |
| 06:56.35 | Mikk | Wobwork: Biggest problem imo is how secure frames turn their parents and attachment points into secure frames |
| 06:57.01 | Mikk | For Dewdrop I just ended up floating a frame on top of the menu buttons OnEnter |
| 06:57.08 | Mikk | Ugleh as f00k =) |
| 06:57.22 | Antiarc | Mikk, if they didn't they wouldn't be very secure :P |
| 06:57.45 | Mikk | Antiarc: Not if they didn't cache their position, alpha, shown etc during combat, no |
| 06:57.45 | jwwpua | oh ok now it's gone. i just have a TON more folders in Addons now |
| 06:57.56 | Mikk | jwwpua: Don't worry about that ton |
| 06:57.58 | Antiarc | That breaks the inheritance model though |
| 06:58.02 | jwwpua | aight |
| 06:58.08 | Mikk | It's fewer folders than were actually living inside your addosn earlier |
| 06:58.10 | Schmidt | jwwpua lol yeah, it'll be way better all told |
| 06:58.14 | jwwpua | so now i just go in and hit F12 each time i update |
| 06:58.17 | ckknight | I still think they should've let us do secure functions OOC |
| 06:58.18 | Schmidt | right |
| 06:58.31 | Schmidt | well, f4 and f12 or just f10 i think |
| 06:58.32 | jwwpua | nice |
| 06:58.35 | Mikk | ckknight: But then they wouldn't break one-button heal&cleanse mods =P |
| 06:58.54 | jwwpua | oh so F10 does "without externals" |
| 06:58.56 | Schmidt | oh jwwpua |
| 06:59.01 | Iceroth | i'd still want ooc "/target <purple>" or "/target <orange>" -.- |
| 06:59.07 | ckknight | Mikk: um... those still exist |
| 06:59.14 | Schmidt | jwwpua: F10 autoselects everything; F12 just installs what you've selected. |
| 06:59.17 | ckknight | Mikk: SmartBuff, for instance |
| 06:59.25 | Mikk | ckknight: nvm i misread your first line |
| 06:59.27 | Schmidt | jwwpua: also, read this link... on the way |
| 06:59.51 | Mikk | and yeah letting us use secure function OOC... yes please |
| 07:00.23 | jwwpua | wow that's a lot faster loading |
| 07:00.24 | jwwpua | thanks |
| 07:00.33 | ckknight | okay, so my sister-in-law's taking her whole psych graduate courses, and I was a test subject for her final project |
| 07:00.45 | ckknight | so I took intelligence tests and personality tests and such |
| 07:01.35 | jwwpua | Schmidt: did you send link? |
| 07:01.41 | ckknight | and her intelligence tests revealed that I might have a learning disorder, since my math was in the 99th percentile and my english was lower than that to a semi-significant degree |
| 07:01.44 | *** join/#wowace sunset (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-50-88.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:01.46 | Wobwork | did you pass? =) |
| 07:01.51 | ckknight | granted, I think it's just cause I'm very, very good at math |
| 07:02.04 | Wobwork | how was your english in terms of percentile? |
| 07:02.17 | Mikk | i think it's because you're hanging out here too much, personally |
| 07:02.21 | Mikk | =P |
| 07:02.23 | Schmidt | jwwpua: no lol. I can't find it. But anyways, on your character selection screen, disable almost all the Lib: xxx that you find there. |
| 07:02.25 | Wobwork | We're a corrupting influence |
| 07:02.28 | Mikk | yups |
| 07:02.37 | Wobwork | ADD MORE MATH |
| 07:02.38 | ckknight | Wobwork: not sure, honestly, didn't ask. it was on a points system, my math was 300 points or so, my English was 250 |
| 07:02.44 | Schmidt | jwwpua: Leave at least Library: Ace2, and there are a few others that you'll need to keep up. I wish I had the link. |
| 07:02.46 | jwwpua | Schmidt: "almost" all? lol |
| 07:02.48 | ckknight | but ever since then, my parents have been treating me differently, repeating things for me and such |
| 07:02.55 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 07:02.59 | ckknight | treating me like I'm a lot stupider than before |
| 07:03.04 | ckknight | and frankly, it's kind of a relief |
| 07:03.11 | Wobwork | "Do you think he wants to go for a W.A.L.K?" |
| 07:03.15 | ckknight | things are easier now |
| 07:03.21 | Schmidt | jwwpua: Many of them will repopulate as libraries you'll need. There are like two or three that you'll have to add for yourself, when you see the errors pop up. |
| 07:03.31 | ckknight | like, I've been working with my dad |
| 07:03.46 | Wobwork | He has you doing the accounting? =) |
| 07:03.47 | ckknight | and he's been repeating things constantly, stuff that I know he's told me before |
| 07:03.48 | Schmidt | jwwpua: If in doubt, just keep them all loading. It should still be shorter loading time even if you don't need all of them. |
| 07:03.59 | ckknight | Wobwork: no, home repairs. I act as a gopher mostly |
| 07:04.04 | Wobwork | What pointscore did your parents get? =) |
| 07:04.10 | ckknight | they didn't take it |
| 07:04.11 | jwwpua | Schmidt: aight i'll play around w/ it and see. thanks for the help |
| 07:04.14 | Wobwork | You should have got them to take it =) |
| 07:04.22 | Schmidt | jwwpua: my pleasure |
| 07:04.39 | Mikk | Wobwork: haha yeah =) |
| 07:04.42 | jwwpua | Schmidt: any idea where the list of ones to keep would be? |
| 07:05.12 | Wobwork | if 300 is in the 99 percentile, then surely 250 is well above average? |
| 07:05.13 | ckknight | meh, I think it's more funny than anything |
| 07:05.28 | ckknight | Wobwork: yea, quite a bit |
| 07:05.36 | ckknight | Wobwork: but a difference of 30 points can mean a learning disability |
| 07:05.46 | ckknight | I don't think I have one, honestly |
| 07:05.48 | Wobwork | Or a learning ability =P |
| 07:05.50 | ckknight | I just don't care for writing |
| 07:05.54 | Mikk | Wobwork: idd. "learning disabiilty" means "impaired function in one area compared to other areas" |
| 07:05.56 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r37340 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 07:05.56 | CIA-22 | Parser-3.0: |
| 07:05.56 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:06.00 | Schmidt | jwwpua: I got it from http://www.wowace.com/forums/ somewhere, but I can't find the specific post that said which ones to keep up. It should be pretty obvious. Someone else found out the hard way. lol |
| 07:06.02 | Mikk | but if that still puts you well above average |
| 07:06.10 | Mikk | the meaning of "disability" becomes academic =P |
| 07:06.15 | Wobwork | Well, then it's not an impairment, it's an affinity |
| 07:06.28 | Wobwork | you're not impaired in english, you've an affinity for maths |
| 07:06.34 | ckknight | basically |
| 07:06.37 | ckknight | math is fun! |
| 07:06.38 | ckknight | yay! |
| 07:06.42 | Wobwork | Math is hard |
| 07:07.13 | Wobwork | And I work for a mathematics e-learning company =P |
| 07:07.27 | ckknight | Mikk: I'm around there |
| 07:08.00 | Mikk | Well, anyone that likes programming is 120+ to begin with =P |
| 07:08.16 | Wobwork | I have no idea what my IQ is |
| 07:08.27 | Mikk | At least 120 =) |
| 07:08.33 | kenlyric|home | 2005 |
| 07:08.39 | Mikk | that's high =P |
| 07:09.01 | ckknight | just remember, 80% of people think they're above average ;-) |
| 07:09.09 | ckknight | a lot of people are <100 and don't realize it |
| 07:09.12 | Schmidt | lol |
| 07:09.24 | ckknight | I mean, you can be 80 and still survive in the modern world quite nicely |
| 07:09.27 | *** join/#wowace weab_ (n=asdf@cpe-70-112-143-167.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 07:09.32 | ckknight | enough so, at least |
| 07:09.34 | Schmidt | The noobsauce I see every day in Shadow Labs? lol |
| 07:09.37 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r37341 10KingOfTheJungle/ (. KingOfTheJungle.toc): |
| 07:09.38 | CIA-22 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 07:09.38 | CIA-22 | - ParserLib TOC Reference fixed |
| 07:11.01 | kenlyric|home | technicallly, only half of all people should be <100 :) |
| 07:11.02 | Schmidt | btw, did anyone check out my ace.pastey link that I posted earlier and I didn't see any comments on? |
| 07:11.03 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37342 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Supremus.lua: BigWigs: Supremus: Some guild went 13min into this fight without enrage, so we assume it's at 15min now. |
| 07:11.21 | ckknight | kenlyric|home: well, right |
| 07:11.32 | Mikk | Ok, I take that statement about maths back. I found it easy before uni. But I worked for 2 years befoer I started uni, and then I didn't see the point of Laplaz transforms and stuff. And I fail utterly at learning stuff I don't see the point of. |
| 07:11.49 | Mikk | There. Back to talking coding again =P |
| 07:12.08 | Schmidt | lol @ Laplace. That guy must have had way too much time on his hands. |
| 07:12.09 | Mikk | Schmidt: repost taht |
| 07:12.19 | Mikk | I missed it totally |
| 07:12.28 | Schmidt | Oh wait. I guess I should put it through the interpreter first, eh? |
| 07:12.42 | Schmidt | Mikk (and whoever else): http://ace.pastey.net/42678-3ubd |
| 07:12.43 | Silviu- | vhaarr Violation Threat is not showing anything now ( i`m alone ) |
| 07:12.48 | jwwpua | Schmidt: i'll get an error in-game if i need to enable a library, right? |
| 07:12.57 | jwwpua | Schmidt: i found out i need Glory and ParserLib so far |
| 07:12.57 | Schmidt | jwwpua yeah |
| 07:13.03 | Mikk | Schmidt: nah, no point putting lua addons through standalone interpreters |
| 07:13.10 | Mikk | the standalone is just for toying with lua basics |
| 07:13.17 | Silviu- | vhaarr i should be in a grp ? |
| 07:13.33 | vhaarr | Silviu-: I have no idea |
| 07:13.56 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37343 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Fix potential table index error. |
| 07:14.28 | Schmidt | Mikk: btw, I love all of what you (and whoever else) have/has done with the API region of wowwiki |
| 07:14.50 | Silviu- | vhaarr in grpo still nothing :P |
| 07:14.53 | Silviu- | -o |
| 07:15.22 | Schmidt | ckknight: No pressure or anything, but academically speaking, are you planning to go back to work on KCI2 anytime soon? |
| 07:15.29 | Mikk | Schmidt: cheers, it's what I went there to get done originally before I got distracted :S |
| 07:15.32 | ckknight | no, as that's not my mod |
| 07:15.38 | Wobwork | That's Kaelten |
| 07:15.38 | ckknight | Schmidt: that's Kaelten's |
| 07:15.39 | Silviu- | I`m going to update r37343 and see |
| 07:15.45 | Schmidt | oh lol |
| 07:15.51 | Schmidt | I R SMRT! |
| 07:15.57 | Schmidt | wow... |
| 07:16.39 | Wobwork | hoemtiem |
| 07:16.40 | Mikk | Schmidt: Okay, seems to be making sense to me. I fail to see the point of it, but, hey =) |
| 07:16.59 | Wobwork | That sounds like what ckknight was saying about LTM |
| 07:17.01 | Schmidt | Mikk: There's more to my idea. This is just to make sure I know what I'm doing and how to trap events. |
| 07:17.02 | Wobwork | KTM |
| 07:17.14 | jwwpua | does anyone update Gladiator/Tattle playerdata? |
| 07:17.15 | ckknight | what about KTM? |
| 07:17.17 | Wobwork | although perhaps less of the 'making sense' |
| 07:17.24 | Mikk | Schmidt: Looks like most every addon so far. So I suppose you're doing ok =) |
| 07:17.25 | Schmidt | Mikk: Anyways, I'm having trouble with rendering the eventabbr. |
| 07:17.48 | Wobwork | anyway, I'm off |
| 07:17.50 | *** part/#wowace Wobwork (n=Wobin@202-129-81-206.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 07:17.53 | Schmidt | Mikk: Also I'm having trouble rendering what little there is to my cooldown list. |
| 07:18.01 | Mikk | Aye, those are tables |
| 07:18.07 | Silviu- | vhaarr ok still nothing, maybe u can take a look maybe ckk changed something in Threat`s api and Violation does not pick it up anymore :) |
| 07:18.12 | *** join/#wowace barduck (n=barduck@212.143.80.101) |
| 07:18.15 | vhaarr | Silviu-: maybe |
| 07:18.32 | Mikk | What you want is definitely "for" loops using "pairs()" |
| 07:18.55 | Schmidt | Mikk: Maybe you can dumb it down for noobcakes like me? |
| 07:19.15 | Mikk | pasteying, sec |
| 07:20.05 | Schmidt | Mikk: And I hope you're willing to explain this to my satisfaction, because otherwise it'll be another copy-paste operation which I really don't want to do. Everything I've done so far with this mod is from scratch, just reading what I can and trial and error besides. |
| 07:20.12 | vhaarr | Silviu-: I think you only get threat when you're in combat, though |
| 07:20.45 | Silviu- | vhaarr i`m in combat ... :) |
| 07:20.48 | Mikk | Schmidt: Take a look at http://ace.pastey.net/42700 -- you should be able to run that through lua.exe |
| 07:20.56 | Mikk | Schmidt: Is that making any sort of sense? |
| 07:21.36 | Silviu- | vhaarr no errors no nothing, just no bar for Threat |
| 07:21.43 | Schmidt | Mikk: Yes, although you did mess up the concatenation in line 21. However, I do have a question besides. |
| 07:21.54 | Silviu- | vhaarr the other modules work fine i see |
| 07:22.01 | Mikk | print("Righteous Defense has a " .. cooldowns["Righteous Defense"] .. " second cooldown"); <- also works |
| 07:22.13 | Mikk | Lookie! table indexed by string! |
| 07:22.20 | Schmidt | Mikk: That's what I want, and that's what I thought I had already in there. :( |
| 07:23.01 | durcyn | let's reinvent hashes! |
| 07:23.05 | Mikk | str = "Righteous Defense"; print("Righteous Defense has a " .. cooldowns[str] .. " second cooldown"); <- also works |
| 07:23.32 | Schmidt | Mikk: Do you see where my own code goes wrong with that? |
| 07:23.41 | Mikk | searching |
| 07:24.04 | Schmidt | line 106, for instance |
| 07:25.04 | Mikk | yeah ok |
| 07:25.14 | Mikk | the problem is that your "cooldowns" table is local, and defined too far down |
| 07:25.18 | Schmidt | Mikk: And just so you know, I can /dump cooldowns["Righteous Defense"] but it won't be printed on my screen in the normal way. |
| 07:25.26 | Mikk | local stuff can't be seen until after it's been defined |
| 07:25.30 | Mikk | move it to the top and you should be golden |
| 07:25.45 | Schmidt | Mikk: Thanks. I'll check it out. Now for the other part. lol |
| 07:25.47 | Mikk | "local" means "only visible to stuff in this file, after it's been defined" |
| 07:25.59 | Mikk | and "/dump <foo>" certainly does not live in that file =) |
| 07:26.09 | Schmidt | Mikk: What about line 32 not working? |
| 07:26.21 | Schmidt | lol |
| 07:27.54 | Mikk | i can't immediately see why that wouldn't work |
| 07:28.13 | Schmidt | Mikk: Why, oh why doesn't it work?! |
| 07:28.14 | Schmidt | lol |
| 07:28.21 | Mikk | though i think i'd use something lighter to just strip part of an event name out |
| 07:28.29 | Schmidt | what? |
| 07:28.44 | Mikk | string.find for instance |
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| 07:28.55 | Schmidt | <--- noob |
| 07:29.02 | Schmidt | *_* |
| 07:29.03 | Mikk | tis ok, we wub j00 =) |
| 07:29.16 | Schmidt | so... how do I use it? lol |
| 07:29.33 | theoddone33 | got my pally epic mount a couple hours after hitting 60, yay easy quests |
| 07:29.36 | Mikk | http://www.lua.org/pil/20.html |
| 07:29.39 | Schmidt | grats |
| 07:29.42 | Mikk | err |
| 07:29.45 | Mikk | ignore that |
| 07:30.11 | Mikk | actually http://www.lua.org/pil/ and just find "string library" in the index |
| 07:30.18 | Schmidt | -.- |
| 07:30.23 | Schmidt | make me do all the work. :( |
| 07:30.24 | Mikk | especially 20.3 "captures" |
| 07:30.31 | Mikk | you effin betcha =P |
| 07:30.38 | Schmidt | lol |
| 07:31.08 | Mikk | local begin,end,capture1 = string.find(msg, "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_(%a+)"); |
| 07:31.18 | Mikk | should return something like 15,23,"NUKENUKE" |
| 07:31.43 | Schmidt | that is so ugly and I have no idea what you just said |
| 07:31.50 | Schmidt | how is 15,23 in there? |
| 07:32.01 | Schmidt | and nukenuke? |
| 07:32.03 | Mikk | position 15 through 23 in the original string |
| 07:32.11 | Mikk | "NUKENUKE" would be the thing after the last "_" |
| 07:32.18 | Schmidt | ah |
| 07:33.16 | Schmidt | would i have to say local begin,end,capture1 = ... or could I jsut say if string.find(...) because that's all I'm testing for |
| 07:33.16 | Schmidt | all i want to know is if that string is in the event |
| 07:33.16 | Mikk | yeah the first parameter is false if it can't find it |
| 07:33.17 | Schmidt | tbh, it doesnt even matter lol |
| 07:33.17 | Mikk | which string? |
| 07:33.25 | Schmidt | CHAT_MSG_SPELL_ |
| 07:33.29 | Schmidt | that's all i care about |
| 07:34.04 | Mikk | ah, you mean in the if() clause |
| 07:34.05 | ckknight | Schmidt: well, it doesn't quite work that way. |
| 07:34.20 | Mikk | i'm saying that you can use the same statement to EXTRACT the word you're returning now |
| 07:34.22 | Mikk | _BUT_ |
| 07:34.35 | Mikk | The name of the spell that your're extracting from that event |
| 07:34.40 | Mikk | isn't exactly going to match stuff in your cooldown list |
| 07:34.49 | Schmidt | I know. I don't mind that. |
| 07:34.50 | Mikk | Actually, that's not even going to be the name of a spell there |
| 07:34.51 | Mikk | ok |
| 07:34.52 | ckknight | Schmidt: see, the message itself will be in the form of "Guy casts Spell on Otherguy", so CHAT_MSG_SPELL_(%a+) doesn't actually match against it |
| 07:35.04 | Mikk | ckknight: he's passing in the event name |
| 07:35.10 | Schmidt | I bear that in mind. |
| 07:35.11 | Schmidt | yeah |
| 07:35.17 | Mikk | just a badly named argument there.. shouldn't be "msg" |
| 07:35.18 | ckknight | Mikk: ah, alright |
| 07:35.22 | ckknight | oh, okay. |
| 07:35.25 | Mikk | i saw that too =) |
| 07:35.43 | Schmidt | I couldn't think of a better argument name, but I guess event is the default. |
| 07:36.33 | Schmidt | So are you saying, Mikk, that the way I have it *should* work, but you would have written it a different way? |
| 07:38.06 | Schmidt | And I want to be sure of this: x:find("zippidydoodah") is equivalent to string.find(x,"zippidydoodah(%a+)"), in terms of nil or not? |
| 07:38.15 | Schmidt | or... nevermind that |
| 07:38.28 | CIA-22 | 03hati * r37344 10MendWatch/ (12 files in 3 dirs): MendWatch: initial version 0.2 from Polima |
| 07:38.35 | Schmidt | I see that what you have written here is actually just another way to write what all I'm trying to get across. |
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| 07:39.51 | Schmidt | Oh and I have one more question about that, Mikk. |
| 07:40.38 | Schmidt | When I said "return deformats(...) end" does that mean the calling function would see that deformats(...) value? |
| 07:41.21 | ckknight | Schmidt: it would call deformats(...) and return the result |
| 07:42.48 | Schmidt | ckknight: I think it's time for me to just use the Lua interpreter I have and just see what I get when I load a basic program. lol |
| 07:42.52 | Mikk | Schmidt: yeah what you've written should work, and for "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_FUBAR", it should return "FUBAR" |
| 07:43.09 | Schmidt | I just want to be sure of something, and I might as well not load you guys down trying to figure it out. |
| 07:43.11 | ckknight | This whole operation is fubar, soldier |
| 07:43.21 | Schmidt | lol no kidding |
| 07:43.36 | Mikk | more like SNAFU tbfh =P |
| 07:43.37 | Schmidt | I will have future questions for all you peeps later, for sure. |
| 07:44.21 | Schmidt | The questions I know that I'll have in the future are more regarding actually putting this information in a more readable format, perhaps with CandyBars |
| 07:45.04 | evl | ckknight: Any more convenient way to go disembed other than having to manually check out all libs? |
| 07:45.13 | ckknight | WAU |
| 07:45.18 | CIA-22 | 03hati * r37345 10MendWatch/ (MendWatch.lua MendWatch.toc): MendWatch: PoM tracking |
| 07:45.35 | Mikk | evl: http://mikk.cjb.net/cleanace.bat |
| 07:45.48 | Schmidt | Oh, and in case you're interested, the whole idea is that I want to trap all party-relevant events so that you can know when soulstone, DI, challenging shout, shield wall, and innervate, etc, are on cooldown. |
| 07:46.07 | Mikk | oki |
| 07:46.22 | Wobin | woo |
| 07:46.24 | Wobin | mendwatch |
| 07:46.36 | Schmidt | And I figure a caster being interrupted is rather relevant, seeing it might be a healer. |
| 07:46.46 | Mikk | information overload tbh =( |
| 07:46.51 | Schmidt | nah |
| 07:47.08 | durcyn | that's when i press my vent hotkey and tell you that you ain't getting healed |
| 07:47.13 | Schmidt | haha |
| 07:47.32 | Schmidt | I've been on vent and silenced and still didn't tell anyone I was silenced. I don't really know why. |
| 07:47.42 | Schmidt | Alright, anyways, back to my addon project. |
| 07:47.47 | Mikk | oh |
| 07:47.48 | Mikk | hah |
| 07:47.56 | Mikk | sigh schmidt =P |
| 07:48.01 | Schmidt | what? |
| 07:48.10 | Mikk | "i was silenced and didn't tell anyone" |
| 07:48.11 | Mikk | sigh =) |
| 07:48.11 | Schmidt | Just because I'm a leet pally that can tank and heal, almost at the same time? lol |
| 07:48.24 | Wobin | hm |
| 07:48.28 | Schmidt | Well, it's rather irrelevant tbh |
| 07:48.33 | Mikk | "silenced" ... "not talk"... eh? =) |
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| 07:48.34 | Wobin | would it be possible to add more stuff to Aloft? Like buffs? |
| 07:48.45 | Mikk | or was that an unintended funny? =P |
| 07:48.51 | Schmidt | No THAT is info overload! |
| 07:49.06 | Schmidt | It was actually uninteded. I'm glad you liked it. |
| 07:49.14 | Mikk | =) |
| 07:49.14 | Schmidt | Now* |
| 07:49.16 | Wobin | what is? |
| 07:49.21 | Schmidt | buffs on Aloft |
| 07:49.23 | yacoob | throw some ui screenshot at me? |
| 07:49.29 | Wobin | I was thinking merely Prayer of Mending |
| 07:49.42 | Wobin | not normal buffs |
| 07:50.28 | Schmidt|workingo | grr |
| 07:50.39 | Fisker- | so does threat recieve and send klhtm data now? |
| 07:50.45 | Schmidt | lol |
| 07:50.50 | Fisker- | or does it just support it? |
| 07:51.25 | durcyn | it receives it. then does nothing with it, yet. |
| 07:52.21 | Antiarc | Woo, getting closer. |
| 07:52.34 | Fisker- | aah Antiarc |
| 07:52.35 | Antiarc | I've got spell transactions mostly working :D |
| 07:52.41 | Fisker- | your duplicity is hardly surprising |
| 07:53.06 | Schmidt | Mikk: It's favorable to make functions local, right? And when making them local, as you noted earlier, they'd need to be above the calling function, right? |
| 07:53.29 | Antiarc | duplicity? |
| 07:53.53 | Fisker- | Boldly said Antiarc but i remain inconvinced |
| 07:54.10 | Fisker- | bah |
| 07:54.17 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 07:54.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 07:54.20 | Fisker- | who keeps changing my button layouts to faggy circles? |
| 07:54.21 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:55.01 | CIA-22 | 03hati * r37346 10MendWatch/Libs/: MendWatch: fix externals |
| 07:55.13 | a-stray-cat | what's mendwatch do? |
| 07:56.12 | Antiarc | Oy. It's possible to UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCESS (spell 1) -> UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT (spell 2) -> CHAT_SPELL_DAMAGE_SELF (spell 1) |
| 07:56.38 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r37347 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Locale-koKR.lua: Automaton: Updated localization koKR |
| 07:58.28 | Wobin | a-stray-cat: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6576-MendWatch.html |
| 07:59.15 | Wobin | hm, I've put PoM aurawatch on Grid |
| 07:59.29 | Wobin | it's actually more useful than MendWatch |
| 07:59.39 | Wobin | I don't have to worry about interpreting names |
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| 08:03.31 | a-stray-cat | ah |
| 08:03.42 | a-stray-cat | anyone know of a fubar plugin for trinketmenu? |
| 08:07.01 | Aenslaed | nethercite needs to be added to cartographer mining >.> |
| 08:07.18 | ckknight | lol: http://f8d.org/?c=49 |
| 08:08.08 | Schmidt | lol |
| 08:08.40 | CIA-22 | 03morgalm * r37348 10MorgBid/ (MorgBid.lua MorgBid.toc): |
| 08:08.40 | CIA-22 | MorgBid: |
| 08:08.40 | CIA-22 | - fixed roll window position not being saved |
| 08:09.18 | CIA-22 | 03morgalm * r37349 10MorgDKP/ (BidQuery.lua MorgDKP.lua): |
| 08:09.18 | CIA-22 | MorgDKP: |
| 08:09.18 | CIA-22 | - updates for new morgbid version |
| 08:11.01 | nevcairiel | Mikk: you know with your fixes to Cartographer, the zonemap does no longer overlap the instancemap .. but its still visible as background .. thats still kinda weird :D |
| 08:11.18 | Mikk | nevcairiel: oh? |
| 08:12.08 | nevcairiel | well dont ask me what i did, i had the map open while i was riding, and it appeared under my instance map |
| 08:12.19 | nevcairiel | there it is again :o |
| 08:12.53 | Mikk | zoning with the instance map open? |
| 08:12.58 | nevcairiel | no |
| 08:13.11 | nevcairiel | i was standing- alt-tabbed here and back, and there it was :D |
| 08:14.00 | Mikk | which instance? |
| 08:14.23 | nevcairiel | pick one |
| 08:14.28 | nevcairiel | i think i had gnomeregan :P |
| 08:14.29 | Mikk | meh |
| 08:14.45 | Wobin | Schmidt: You desreve it |
| 08:14.46 | Wobin | er |
| 08:14.49 | Wobin | not to Schmidt at all |
| 08:14.53 | Wobin | nevcairiel =P |
| 08:14.59 | Schmidt | Hey! |
| 08:14.59 | Mikk | schdmit prolly deserves it too, it's ok |
| 08:15.07 | Schmidt | -.- |
| 08:15.08 | Schmidt | lol |
| 08:15.12 | Schmidt | probably ya |
| 08:15.13 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r37350 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: don't display 'Omen 0.1 - nil' when you don't have a target. |
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| 08:15.20 | Mikk | nevcairiel: can you give me a screenshot? |
| 08:15.25 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 08:15.32 | Mikk | cause i don't see how anything coudl be visible "under" a bitmap that covers the whole window |
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| 08:15.46 | Mikk | seems to me it'll either render on top of the instance map or not be visible at all o.O |
| 08:17.27 | nevcairiel | Mikk: http://nevcairiel.net/WoWScrnShot_052807_101609.jpg |
| 08:17.54 | Wobin | Mikk: In regards to Where's My Cow, what values do you suggest I put into the listing for each frame? |
| 08:18.06 | Antiarc | Hm. If I modify a list while I'm iterating it, that messes up the iterator, doesn't it? |
| 08:19.07 | Mikk | Antiarc: depends on hwo you're modifying it |
| 08:19.29 | Mikk | You can modify _values_ however you like |
| 08:19.43 | Mikk | And append to the end of integer-indexed lists |
| 08:19.47 | Mikk | And delete the current position |
| 08:19.52 | Mikk | But other than that, you shouldn't be modifying the list no |
| 08:20.14 | Antiarc | I'm optionally performing a tremove, so yeah. |
| 08:20.16 | Mikk | It's quite possible that it's safe to delete and insert later entries too but that smells implementation dependent and i wouldn't be doing it myself |
| 08:20.19 | Antiarc | I worked around it |
| 08:20.28 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r37351 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 08:20.28 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 08:20.29 | CIA-22 | - Babble-Boss-2.2: frFR Update |
| 08:20.51 | Mikk | Antiarc: If it's an integer-indexed list, you can just for a nice n simple for i=1,top |
| 08:20.58 | Mikk | And then you don't have iterator problems at all |
| 08:21.25 | Antiarc | Which is what I ended up doing :) |
| 08:21.52 | Mikk | Of course, you end up dereferncing the table for each loop instead but ... hey |
| 08:21.56 | Mikk | What works, works |
| 08:22.05 | Mikk | nevcairiel: That's strange as hell that is |
| 08:22.44 | nevcairiel | just open an instance map and wait for a while |
| 08:22.48 | nevcairiel | it always appears after a bit |
| 08:22.56 | Mikk | aha |
| 08:23.00 | Mikk | you need to move around in order for it to happen |
| 08:23.12 | theoddone33 | oof 60-61 is almost twice as much xp as 59-60 |
| 08:23.15 | nevcairiel | no |
| 08:23.21 | nevcairiel | i didnt move |
| 08:23.27 | nevcairiel | i was standing waiting for it to happen |
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| 08:23.46 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r37352 10BigWigs/ (Karazhan/Nightbane.lua Outland/Gruul.lua TheEye/Alar.lua): |
| 08:23.46 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 08:23.46 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.46 | Wobin | Mikk: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/wobindwonderdog/Splut.jpg |
| 08:24.50 | nevcairiel | Mikk: alt-tabbing helps for it to happen as well :P but not one single movement |
| 08:26.21 | ckknight | what's Where's My Cow do? |
| 08:26.21 | Mikk | yeah ok, i see it happening now |
| 08:26.25 | Mikk | zoning causes it to happen 100% |
| 08:26.45 | Mikk | i'm assuming your standing-still case has a map update message flying by randomly once in a while |
| 08:26.46 | Wobin | ckknight: You register frames with it, and you can mouseover-shift to see the attributes |
| 08:26.55 | ckknight | alright |
| 08:27.02 | Wobin | and shift-tab to cycle through a stack |
| 08:27.34 | Wobin | I need suggestions as to what information to display by default |
| 08:27.47 | Wobin | Cause you can add your own custom information to the frame if you need |
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| 08:29.15 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r37353 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 08:29.15 | CIA-22 | StatLogicLib: |
| 08:29.15 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:29.21 | Mikk | Wobin: FrameStrata and FrameLevel |
| 08:29.24 | Mikk | plx |
| 08:29.46 | Mikk | Possibly MouseEnabled also |
| 08:29.47 | Schmidt | Wobin: That looks like something I'd be interested in. |
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| 08:30.33 | Wobin | Schmidt: By all means =) |
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| 08:31.29 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r37354 10Decursive/localization.kr.lua: |
| 08:31.29 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 08:31.29 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 08:32.15 | Punkie` | good morning people ^^ |
| 08:33.31 | sdouble | Anyone recommend a Baggins alternative? |
| 08:33.43 | Wobin | arkinv? |
| 08:34.01 | durcyn | bagnon |
| 08:34.02 | sdouble | That sorts the same. Someone mentioned it's messed up earlier |
| 08:34.20 | Mikk | Baggins can sort however you like. It's just a bit tricky to set up. |
| 08:34.24 | Schmidt | Mikk: When I /dump eventabbr, it comes up with "PERIODIC" which is expected. Do you know why it might not print out? All functions are global (function xxxx:Whatever()). |
| 08:34.50 | Mikk | no idea =( |
| 08:34.57 | Mikk | possibly because you're dumping a different eventabbr |
| 08:35.03 | sdouble | I have it doing great, but sometimes it will hold an item in a slot after I vendor it (I got paid, item is no longer there) and it sometimes puts the same item in 2 sections |
| 08:35.05 | Mikk | i think you're setting them in different places? |
| 08:35.07 | sdouble | but not everytime. |
| 08:35.32 | sdouble | I really like baggins, but that's kind of confusing |
| 08:35.36 | Schmidt | Mikk: eventabbr is set up in the same manner every time |
| 08:35.36 | Mikk | aye, items can be members of several categories, THAT much is by design |
| 08:35.55 | Mikk | if you're not liking one of the locations, you can alt+rightclick and select "Exclude from category" |
| 08:36.00 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r37355 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: frFR UPdate |
| 08:36.00 | Schmidt | Mikk: And it should be printed the same way every time. =/ |
| 08:36.03 | Nargiddley | sdouble, theres an option 'hide duplicate items' that will make things only show once |
| 08:36.10 | Nargiddley | otherwise it shows everywhere it matches |
| 08:37.21 | sdouble | well, the weird thing is it only does it sometimes |
| 08:37.25 | Schmidt | Mikk: Is it acceptable and common and even advisable to globalize all variables to make sure it works, and then localize them where possible? |
| 08:37.27 | sdouble | like with a healing potion |
| 08:37.29 | Mikk | Schmidt: try printing tostring(eventabbr) |
| 08:37.30 | Wobin | oh hey that's useful |
| 08:37.40 | Schmidt | ah, that should be it |
| 08:37.48 | Mikk | might tell you if it's nil |
| 08:37.52 | Mikk | or something unexpected |
| 08:37.53 | sdouble | sometimes it's shown in consumables only, then sometimes it's listed in consumables and trade goods |
| 08:38.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37356 10PitBull/Banzai/Banzai.lua: PitBull_Banzai - don't limit options to player/party/raid |
| 08:38.10 | Nargiddley | sdouble, it should be consistant at least |
| 08:38.24 | sdouble | Yeah, it's not. That's the part that confuses me. |
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| 08:38.45 | Mikk | Schmidt: you probably don't want e.g. "eventabbr" to be a global. It's much too generic. You can stick it as a member variable of your addon table though |
| 08:38.50 | Mikk | I.e. CoolParty:eventabbr |
| 08:38.52 | Nargiddley | sdouble, that confuses me as well, and i wrote the thing :/ |
| 08:39.08 | Nargiddley | shouldnt be showing items in a category sometimes |
| 08:39.10 | Mikk | (remember that global names are shared by all addons!) |
| 08:39.29 | art3mis | "write code like the next person who will maintain your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live" |
| 08:39.40 | Schmidt | Mikk: I know; I just was considering globalizing it for purposes of testing, to make sure it was functioning, and then I could localize it later. |
| 08:39.48 | Mikk | certainly doable |
| 08:40.05 | Mikk | i usually put a "local myvarname" at the top and comment it out while testing |
| 08:40.10 | Mikk | easier to remember to fix it later that way =) |
| 08:40.34 | Schmidt | rofl |
| 08:40.37 | Schmidt | it crashed my game |
| 08:41.15 | sdouble | Ah, well it's an excellent addon. Thanks for it Nargiddley. =] It's that and the part where the item doesn't get removed from the bag when it's sold. |
| 08:41.52 | Nargiddley | if you can figure out how to reproduce it let me know |
| 08:42.10 | Nargiddley | i havent noticed it leave things in bag for me |
| 08:42.23 | Mikk | no, i've never had that either |
| 08:42.46 | Nargiddley | sure its not 2 stacks that have been compressed, and selling one of them ? |
| 08:43.07 | sdouble | I'm sure, because I put the mouse over it and it doesn't show a tooltip |
| 08:43.13 | Nargiddley | hm :/ |
| 08:43.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37357 10PitBull/HideBlizzard/HideBlizzard.lua: PitBull_HideBlizzard - hide PetCastingBarFrame along with CastingBarFrame. |
| 08:43.35 | Nargiddley | both issues could be the same thing, bag events not causing a refilter |
| 08:44.27 | Mikk | sdouble: Are you forcing things to be shown as stacked by any chance? |
| 08:44.31 | CIA-22 | 03hati * r37358 10MendWatch/ (MendWatch.lua MendWatch.toc): MendWatch: some fixes |
| 08:44.36 | sdouble | no |
| 08:44.45 | Mikk | Damn. Thought I was onto something. |
| 08:44.59 | Wobin | Mikk, Schmidt, ckknight : http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/wobindwonderdog/WheresMyCow.jpg |
| 08:45.08 | ckknight | I know where your cow is |
| 08:45.13 | Fisker- | i ate food wee |
| 08:45.16 | Nargiddley | sdouble, dont happen to be a hunter with some ds still ? |
| 08:45.24 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r37359 10Mendeleev/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 08:45.24 | CIA-22 | Mendeleev: |
| 08:45.25 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 08:45.30 | Wobin | ckknight: Is that my cow? |
| 08:45.38 | Wobin | That goes HRRRRUGH, That's not my cow! |
| 08:45.42 | Nargiddley | (yes that might seem random :P) |
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| 08:45.51 | Mikk | now rewrite it to not need hooking at all plx =) |
| 08:45.55 | Mikk | (gogo devtools) |
| 08:45.56 | sdouble | warlock |
| 08:45.58 | Wobin | Nargiddley: ds? |
| 08:46.16 | Nargiddley | dragonstalker, which it what loves throwing the nil errors in gratuity |
| 08:46.23 | Nargiddley | *is |
| 08:46.34 | Wobin | Mikk: hooking? |
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| 08:46.56 | Mikk | well.. explicitly telling WMC which frame to be helpful with |
| 08:47.02 | Mikk | which frame(s) |
| 08:47.05 | Wobin | That would cause too much overhead |
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| 08:47.15 | Wobin | and you'd be unable to do anything else while it was running |
| 08:47.26 | moonsorrow | good morning |
| 08:47.33 | Wobin | Also, you'd possibly have to cycle through frames you don't give a damn about |
| 08:47.40 | Mikk | Wobin: but devtools manages it? :S |
| 08:47.51 | Schmidt | Wobin: I don't know what the API documentation might look like, but it might be good for me to use in my project here. |
| 08:48.03 | Wobin | well |
| 08:48.10 | Wobin | devtools cycles through enumerateframes |
| 08:48.14 | Wobin | every single time |
| 08:48.25 | Wobin | which I believe is somewhat excessive |
| 08:48.26 | Mikk | kills framerate i know |
| 08:48.32 | Mikk | but.. well.. tis a dev tool |
| 08:48.40 | Wobin | so, have it only deal with the frames you're interested in |
| 08:48.52 | Mikk | oooooooooohhhhh wait i know |
| 08:48.56 | Wobin | You also can add in other stuff to the tooltip |
| 08:48.58 | Antiarc | Guys |
| 08:49.02 | Antiarc | I'm having to add polling to Threat :( |
| 08:49.03 | Wobin | values, strings, etc |
| 08:49.07 | Mikk | have WMC know about devtools |
| 08:49.09 | Wobin | Antiarc: Nooooooo |
| 08:49.10 | Antiarc | (But it's very light.) |
| 08:49.18 | Wobin | Will it turn off OOC? |
| 08:49.23 | Antiarc | Wobin: There is no event if a sunder lands and the target is already 5-stacked |
| 08:49.23 | Antiarc | But yes |
| 08:49.29 | nymbia | ~whaleslap Antiarc |
| 08:49.45 | purl | ACTION beats Antiarc upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
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| 08:49.45 | nymbia | Antiarc: what's it need it for? |
| 08:49.45 | Kalman| | Disable polling for non-warriors. :p |
| 08:49.57 | Wobin | Antiarc: Bludgeon Slouken to add the event in |
| 08:49.58 | nymbia | Antiarc: you sure? |
| 08:50.03 | Antiarc | nymbia: Positive. |
| 08:50.13 | nymbia | Antiarc: UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED should fire.. |
| 08:50.15 | Antiarc | I've spent the last 4 hours pouring over event spam |
| 08:50.20 | Antiarc | nymbia: It does |
| 08:50.28 | Antiarc | But it also fires even if it's dodged/parried/etc |
| 08:50.32 | Antiarc | It just means you executed the skill |
| 08:50.35 | Antiarc | Not that it landed |
| 08:50.46 | Mikk | but erm what are you polling to make it work better? |
| 08:50.53 | nymbia | Antiarc: so then wait a half second and see if you get a combat log message back? |
| 08:50.55 | Kalman| | Kludgy way to do it is to add threat on SUCCEEDED, subtract threat on dodge/parry. |
| 08:51.03 | Antiarc | nymbia: Basically what I'm doing. |
| 08:51.06 | Wobin | hey, how about only poll when sunders = 5 or a similar situation |
| 08:51.10 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Yes, but that's per-skill, which is kludgy. |
| 08:51.23 | Antiarc | This is a general solution for all spells. |
| 08:51.26 | nymbia | Antiarc: well, that OnUpdate only needs to be set for a half second then :) |
| 08:51.27 | Antiarc | It only polls once per second anyway |
| 08:51.29 | Antiarc | And it's very light |
| 08:51.35 | Antiarc | But still, polling :( |
| 08:51.39 | Wobin | =( |
| 08:51.39 | Mikk | What are you polling then >.< |
| 08:51.52 | Mikk | (Granted, I have nothing to do with Threat, but i'm a curious bugger) |
| 08:52.04 | Antiarc | Mikk: Basically just iterating my transaction table looking for transactions more than 1 second old that don't have a resolution |
| 08:52.09 | Antiarc | (damage, miss, whatever) |
| 08:52.17 | nymbia | Antiarc: why would you have it running if you aren't waiting for the result of a skill? |
| 08:52.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37360 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add .globalString and .event to the parserEvent table |
| 08:52.33 | Antiarc | Anything that fits that criteria is assumed to have landed and is committed |
| 08:52.49 | Mikk | Doesn't sound like a problem to me =P |
| 08:52.55 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r37361 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-koKR.lua: |
| 08:52.55 | CIA-22 | Quartz: |
| 08:52.55 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 08:52.56 | Wobin | Mikk: Anyway, in regards to WMC, the whole point to the frame registering, is so you can add custom information to each frame, like check if the character is resting or something arbitary. |
| 08:53.06 | Mikk | Wobin: aye good point |
| 08:53.16 | Antiarc | nymbia: Because it's a general solution. The way I have it implemented, you need no knowledge of whether a skill produces a landed message or not to implement threat code for it. |
| 08:53.17 | Mikk | i just want more info out of devtools sometimes |
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| 08:53.32 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:53.34 | nymbia | Antiarc: fair enough |
| 08:53.39 | Antiarc | It's a lot cleaner to maintain, and the cost of a few cpu cycles every 60 frames or so. |
| 08:53.48 | Wobin | maybe I can add in a devtools style option |
| 08:53.50 | Antiarc | Also, damn frog won't resist my taunt again. |
| 08:53.54 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r37362 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 08:53.54 | CIA-22 | RatingBuster: |
| 08:53.54 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:54.03 | Wobin | THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU, FROG |
| 08:54.25 | Antiarc | I'm up to 25 taunts without a resist so far |
| 08:54.36 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 08:54.38 | Wobin | lrn2noob =) |
| 08:55.09 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc |
| 08:55.26 | Fisker- | sanitybags(i think it is) can't scale the bagmeter |
| 08:55.35 | Antiarc | Hrm |
| 08:55.37 | Antiarc | Should be able to |
| 08:55.40 | Antiarc | I'll doublecheck it |
| 08:55.47 | Fisker- | In regards to changing icon sizes |
| 08:56.13 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r37363 10TankPoints/TankPoints-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 08:56.13 | CIA-22 | TankPoints: |
| 08:56.14 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.39 | Fisker- | can i make a filter for empty bagslots btw? |
| 08:57.00 | Antiarc | Fisker-: No, at least not now. |
| 08:57.05 | Fisker- | alright :o |
| 08:57.11 | Antiarc | 35 taunts! |
| 08:57.18 | Fisker- | i also got an insane idea btw |
| 08:57.20 | Antiarc | I think I'd be ok to be a 4H tank at this rate. |
| 08:57.53 | Fisker- | You should have something like onebag |
| 08:58.06 | doktoreas | Anyone is using perfectarget? |
| 08:58.09 | Fisker- | Where you can extend a little menu with your bag1 etc. |
| 08:58.17 | Fisker- | but this menu would instead have the custom bags |
| 08:58.23 | Fisker- | and you could give it a name and an icon |
| 08:58.28 | Schmidt | Mikk: Can you tell me why I can print these global variables and use my global functions from /script but not in my addon code? |
| 08:58.42 | Schmidt | Or can anyone else? |
| 08:59.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37364 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - stick the message itself on the parserEvent table as well. |
| 08:59.38 | Mikk | Schmidt: Your functions probably aren't getting passed the arguments that you think they are then |
| 09:00.00 | Schmidt | I'm passing exactly the same arguments as my code calls for. |
| 09:00.07 | Mikk | Try debug printing the arguments actually being passed to them |
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| 09:00.15 | Schmidt | I am! lol |
| 09:00.16 | Mikk | It's the only thing I can think of |
| 09:00.19 | Mikk | o.O |
| 09:00.27 | Gale | Mornign all :) I was just reading this thread http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6180.0 about combat and unit frames. I have the same problem, i ahve ried with and without autbar, to no effect. I have also tried non ace unitframes and they dont exhibit the same problem...wondering if anyone had any ideas :) |
| 09:01.22 | doktoreas | is there any addon like perfecttarget updated to latest patch? |
| 09:01.36 | Schmidt | Mikk: Odd that the variables are there, and where the variables are generated is the same place these functions are being called, yet only specific things are being printed. :( |
| 09:02.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37365 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - bugfix for Casting events SIMPLECASTOTHEROTHER and SIMPLECASTOTHERSELF |
| 09:02.26 | ckknight | Gale: blizzard bug. |
| 09:02.42 | ckknight | Gale: Iriel's mentioned it, it's fixed in 2.1.2, I believe |
| 09:02.54 | Gale | ah right, thanks ckknight :) |
| 09:03.35 | Fisker- | any further documentation on sanity filters Antiarc? |
| 09:04.39 | Fisker- | I want to show my rod+enchanting mats, but it seems to be under the Trade Goods tag which also gives me some other stuff there |
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| 09:05.26 | Antiarc | Fisker-: Just what's in the tooltip |
| 09:05.39 | Antiarc | You can use tooltip: or set a custom cat/tag in sanity if you want |
| 09:06.18 | Fisker- | how do i make custom tags? |
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| 09:08.42 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r37366 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/InstanceMaps.lua: |
| 09:08.42 | CIA-22 | Cartographer: |
| 09:08.42 | CIA-22 | - Forcibly disable the "ARTWORK" layer when opening an instance map. |
| 09:08.42 | CIA-22 | - This prevents the map overlays from becoming re-shown while an instance map is open (e.g. due to zoning) |
| 09:09.30 | Mikk | (There was code in to manually hide the overlays one by one earlier. But that didn't keep them from being disabled. I yanked that piece of code out now.) |
| 09:09.31 | Antiarc | Just click an icon in the sanity window to pull up the item menu |
| 09:09.44 | Mikk | s/being disabled/being re-shown/ |
| 09:11.54 | Fisker- | ah so i should use sanity2 in conjuction with sanitybags for best results Antiarc? :P |
| 09:13.08 | Antiarc | Until I get custom categories/tagging separated out, yes |
| 09:14.18 | Fisker- | alright |
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| 09:19.03 | Wobin | Mikk: One thing I'll have to do with the full list of frames is ignore any that aren't showing |
| 09:20.58 | Antiarc | ckknight: How do I detect when I apply a debuff to an enemy? Aura and Damage events aren't doing it. |
| 09:21.14 | ckknight | hrm, Aura should be doing it... |
| 09:21.36 | Antiarc | "Frog is afflicted by Demoralizing Shout" |
| 09:21.37 | Wobin | Mikk: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/wobindwonderdog/WheresMyCowFullScan.jpg |
| 09:21.44 | Antiarc | Doesn't seem to be triggering it. |
| 09:22.16 | ckknight | that's an Aura one... |
| 09:22.29 | ckknight | know what event it's under? |
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| 09:22.52 | Mikk | Wobin: How about having shift lock your tooltip in place so you can mouse up on it and drill down into the frame you want to see? |
| 09:22.56 | Mikk | Dropdown menu style? |
| 09:23.03 | Mikk | <- just sprouting ideas |
| 09:23.04 | Antiarc | I believe it's CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_CREATURE_DAMAGE |
| 09:23.05 | pb_ee1 | Heya ;) |
| 09:23.13 | Antiarc | Aye, it is. |
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| 09:23.27 | Antiarc | I believe it's CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_CREATURE_DAMAGE |
| 09:23.40 | Wobin | Mikk: at the moment, you can shift-tab through the list |
| 09:23.48 | Wobin | and shift-enter to select a frame |
| 09:23.51 | Mikk | ahh |
| 09:23.55 | ckknight | blah |
| 09:23.59 | ckknight | hrm, it should be catching that... |
| 09:24.18 | Antiarc | I'm doing it with no other filters - just eventType = 'Aura' |
| 09:24.43 | pb_ee1 | Just a quick question: with Bartender, the lag indicator doesn't show up anymore and thus I cannot have blizzard's information on lag/FPS/memory usage. Should I use somehting like FuBar_PerofrmanceFu or is there a project of adding the indicator back to Bartender? |
| 09:25.17 | ckknight | Antiarc: hrm, lemme check it out |
| 09:25.22 | Antiarc | Alrighty |
| 09:26.38 | Mikk | pb_ee1: FuBar_MiniPerfsFu |
| 09:26.44 | Mikk | PerformanceFu is probably more than you need |
| 09:28.05 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r37367 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua): |
| 09:28.05 | CIA-22 | Baggins: |
| 09:28.05 | CIA-22 | - Add a "Use" option to the alt+rightclick menu that lets use Use/Equip stuff rather than bank/sell it when the respective frames are open |
| 09:28.11 | Mikk | \o/ |
| 09:29.58 | Kebinusan | note to self, check out baggins now |
| 09:29.59 | Kebinusan | I hated hvaing to close my bank to make primals |
| 09:29.59 | Mikk | no kidding |
| 09:30.09 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc we need banking support! :o |
| 09:30.14 | Schmidt | floor(65 / 60)..":"..(65 % 60) = 1:5 rather than 1:05... is there a fairly easy way to fix that? |
| 09:30.15 | Fisker- | then i can fap |
| 09:31.29 | Antiarc | Fisker-: I need like 3 more of me to help me code :P |
| 09:31.29 | ckknight | Schmidt: ("%d:%02d"):format(floor(65/60), 65 % 60) |
| 09:31.29 | Mikk | gogo prioritize threat. =) |
| 09:31.29 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: thanks |
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| 09:31.30 | Schmidt | ckknight: thanks |
| 09:31.38 | Mikk | Now I want an option in baggins to compact my bags for me |
| 09:31.42 | Mikk | Wonder how much that'd hurt to code |
| 09:31.47 | Antiarc | Just rip it from Sanity |
| 09:31.49 | Antiarc | It's simple |
| 09:31.50 | Antiarc | Tip: |
| 09:31.51 | Mikk | (make sure stuff is stacked to the max) |
| 09:31.54 | Antiarc | Do it in an onupdate handler. |
| 09:31.59 | ckknight | Antiarc: "%s is afflicted by %s" works for me with eventType = "Aura" |
| 09:32.02 | Antiarc | If you do it in one frame you'll lock the client. |
| 09:32.10 | Antiarc | ckknight: Hm. I'll triple-check it. |
| 09:32.14 | Mikk | Antiarc: cheers |
| 09:32.41 | Nargiddley | Mikk, dont go integrating things too tightly :D |
| 09:32.53 | Antiarc | Screw you, Frog |
| 09:33.05 | Antiarc | 143 taunts and zero resists. |
| 09:33.07 | Mikk | Nargiddley: integrate? o.O |
| 09:33.11 | Nargiddley | I have begun the long process of ripping the good bits out and starting Baggins2 :P |
| 09:33.23 | Mikk | eek :S |
| 09:33.57 | Nargiddley | which will hopefully be alot better to add things like that to :D |
| 09:34.11 | Mikk | fine, all go code ChatHookLib instead =P |
| 09:34.16 | Mikk | *i'll |
| 09:34.25 | Nargiddley | nuuu |
| 09:34.30 | Mikk | goddamnit where'd my english skillz go today |
| 09:34.36 | Nargiddley | heh |
| 09:34.42 | Wobin | ckknight stole them |
| 09:34.46 | Mikk | ahh |
| 09:34.57 | Nargiddley | just have to make sure its not mixed in with the messy internals of Baggins :P |
| 09:35.28 | Mikk | Nargiddley: Nah, I don't even see how that would even have to touch the baggins internals.. Straight bag APIs, no? |
| 09:35.33 | Iceroth | hmh.. all of you bag mod authors should unite and make The Ultimate Bag Mod (feel free to use that name) that would solve all the problems, figure out the final question about living and all that which results to 42 and generally just work like charm |
| 09:35.34 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 09:35.46 | Nargiddley | more a general note if you're going to be adding stuff |
| 09:36.04 | Mikk | One thing then |
| 09:36.14 | Mikk | Make sure you can just drag stuff around between sections to automagically create filters, plx? |
| 09:36.47 | Mikk | Like.. drag = automatic include in a category in the new section, and automagically exclude from the old |
| 09:36.55 | Mikk | Shift+drag = don't exclude from old |
| 09:37.50 | Mikk | And some sort of simpler integration between categories and sections wouldn't hurt either |
| 09:37.55 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 09:38.12 | Mikk | I mean.. sometimes it rocks to have a central category that you can re-use in multiple bags |
| 09:38.18 | Mikk | But most times it's just unnecessary clicking |
| 09:38.18 | Nargiddley | i'm going for rules making up groups of items, and those will directly map to sections |
| 09:38.43 | Nargiddley | rules -> category -> section is a bit hard to manage |
| 09:38.47 | Mikk | aye |
| 09:38.55 | Nargiddley | sounded good at the time |
| 09:39.10 | Nargiddley | and i want rules to be strings, not tables like they are now |
| 09:39.11 | Mikk | well.. can't you have "sections" that don't live in a bag, that you can re-use in bags? |
| 09:39.24 | Mikk | or just re-use sections in multiple bags |
| 09:39.35 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 09:39.38 | Mikk | cause that'd accomplish mostly the same thing |
| 09:40.26 | Nargiddley | i want to be able to do something like open a text box with the whole rules for a bag, copy and paste and hack as desired into other bags |
| 09:40.32 | Mikk | Like me wanting to have a "Gear" section (closetgnome set) in both my bank and my inventory |
| 09:41.17 | Mikk | Mmmmhm yeah a text config might work... if there's an easy way of adding more that doesn't require you to remember the syntax |
| 09:41.27 | Mikk | Or editting existing entires without remembering |
| 09:41.53 | Mikk | Did we finally end up getting textedit positioning utilities? We didn't did we? |
| 09:42.17 | Nargiddley | hm ? |
| 09:42.25 | Mikk | EditBox:GetLine()? |
| 09:42.27 | Mikk | or so |
| 09:42.35 | Nargiddley | not sure |
| 09:42.40 | Mikk | SetPos(column,lime) |
| 09:42.44 | Mikk | don't think we dod no |
| 09:42.53 | Nargiddley | i remember getting really frustrated with that doing the text boxes for waterfall |
| 09:43.02 | Mikk | WTB [Expert English & Typing] sigh |
| 09:43.21 | Nargiddley | just trying to get it to have the cursor at the start and show the start of text in it |
| 09:43.25 | Nargiddley | dont think i ever got it |
| 09:43.36 | Mikk | i did a writeup on that |
| 09:43.37 | Mikk | sec |
| 09:44.01 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Scroll_EditBoxes_to_the_left_programatically |
| 09:44.48 | Nargiddley | omg <3 |
| 09:44.59 | Nargiddley | i tried so much screwing around like that |
| 09:45.09 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r37368 10Violation/ (Healing/Healing.lua Violation.lua): |
| 09:45.09 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 09:45.09 | CIA-22 | - added overhealing module |
| 09:45.31 | Mikk | Nargiddley: aye, InsertText() was the key.. took me a while to find that :S |
| 09:45.49 | Nargiddley | i was mostly playing with its size |
| 09:46.14 | Schmidt | Mikk: Finally I got everything printing that I need! wooooo! |
| 09:46.23 | Mikk | fwiw, you can move the cursor to any position in the text, not just to position 0 |
| 09:46.39 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r37369 10Postal/ (Locales/enUS.lua Locales/zhTW.lua Modules/Wire.lua): Postal: - updated zhTW locale |
| 09:46.58 | Mikk | Schmidt: grats :P |
| 09:47.22 | Mikk | For the next debugging marathon, may I suggest espresso? =) |
| 09:47.31 | Mikk | ^ How the 1337 kidz do it |
| 09:47.33 | Schmidt | now localizing everything to see how it works now that it's fine when global |
| 09:47.41 | Schmidt | lol i can't stand coffee |
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| 09:47.44 | Schmidt | or anything like it |
| 09:47.54 | Mikk | you made it through the army withuot getting hooked? o.O |
| 09:48.07 | Mikk | you guys must have a weird army =P |
| 09:48.13 | Schmidt | i guess so |
| 09:48.17 | Ominous | mornin' |
| 09:48.18 | Schmidt | most people do drink it |
| 09:48.19 | Schmidt | i don't |
| 09:48.45 | Schmidt | For functions, is it worthwhile to localize them? I tried that and it didn't work out. |
| 09:48.48 | Mikk | i had to go from gulping pint-sized mugs of coffee to espresso shots tho. stomach complained in the end :S |
| 09:49.01 | Mikk | not if your function is a member of your table |
| 09:49.04 | Mikk | that won't work very well no |
| 09:49.12 | Mikk | and there's no need to do it either |
| 09:49.22 | Mikk | local someNonMemberFunction() <- works |
| 09:49.25 | Schmidt | why local variables but not local functions? |
| 09:49.28 | Mikk | MyAddon:MyMemberFunc() <- don't localize |
| 09:49.59 | Ominous | you can tho MyAddon[L["FunctionName"]] = function(self, ...) |
| 09:50.12 | Mikk | not that kind of localization omni |
| 09:50.19 | Mikk | we were talking local vs global |
| 09:50.23 | Ominous | oh |
| 09:50.30 | Ominous | ah /slap |
| 09:50.34 | nevcairiel | localized function names .. where is the point at all Oo |
| 09:50.40 | Mikk | aye =) |
| 09:50.46 | Mikk | nevcairiel: i think i fixed that carto bug btw |
| 09:50.50 | Ominous | they are quicker to call arnt they? |
| 09:50.51 | nevcairiel | good |
| 09:51.01 | Silviu- | Antiarc |
| 09:51.02 | Silviu- | [2007/05/28 12:50:18-25-x2]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:320: table index is nil |
| 09:51.16 | Mikk | Ominous: local funcs? yeah, it's always a bit faster to access local stuff rather than global since there aren't any table lookups involved |
| 09:51.38 | Mikk | but if those functions are of any meaningful size, it doesn't matter diddly squat |
| 09:52.39 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r37370 10AtlasLoot/ (8 files in 7 dirs): |
| 09:52.39 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:52.39 | CIA-22 | - v3.00.05, fixed a bug in the Terokkar Forest loot table, removed obsolete data, minor loot updates |
| 09:52.52 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r37371 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Yay editbox hacks, no more scrolling to the end of current text |
| 09:53.03 | Ominous | w00t! |
| 09:53.34 | Schmidt | Is refrigerated pancake mix worth anything? |
| 09:54.20 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37372 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Warrior.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): |
| 09:54.20 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 09:54.21 | CIA-22 | - Massively reorganized ThreatClassModuleCore.lua. Added spell transactions so that we can catch things that don't have a "yes, this landed" event. |
| 09:54.21 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Battle Shout threat |
| 09:54.21 | CIA-22 | - Debuffs without a target (Demo shout, Howl of Terror, etc) don't seem to be working. Needs investigation. |
| 09:54.22 | CIA-22 | - Bored? Play "spot the reference to the recycled table" - something's holding on to one somewhere and it pops up every so often. |
| 09:54.58 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37373 10Violation/ (Healing/Healing.lua Violation.lua): Violation: Shuffle. |
| 09:55.10 | Ominous | wee antiarc made a game :D =P |
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| 09:55.42 | CIA-22 | 03wobin * r37374 10WheresMyCow/Cow.lua: WheresMyCow - Now has /wmc all which scans every visible frame under the cursor, much like devtools does |
| 09:55.46 | Kebinusan | is it possible to do a weapon swap macro like, if I have a 2hander swap to 1h/shield if I have 1h/shield swap to twohander in a single button |
| 09:55.51 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r37375 10ClassTimer/Bars/Warlock.lua: ClassTimer: Warlock: Added seducition |
| 09:56.00 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37376 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Give the spell transactions frame a name that indicates it belongs to the lib. |
| 09:56.18 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: Arrows on disabled dropdown boxes are still active, and clicking one brings up a funnylooking box in Waterfall. |
| 09:56.35 | Nargiddley | vhaarr, i'll take a look |
| 09:56.57 | Sole | holy shit thats a lot of commits |
| 09:57.38 | Wobin | hum |
| 09:57.40 | Ominous | does anyone have any suggestions to the layout of the menu in classtimer? |
| 09:57.44 | Antiarc | I'm bushed. See you all tomorrow, folks. |
| 09:57.45 | Wobin | Don't we get autogenerated wikipages anymore? |
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| 09:57.53 | Antiarc|PassedOu | Bah. |
| 09:58.02 | Wobin | heeh |
| 09:58.05 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: Also, when you open a dropdown with tons of entries, it kind of covers the dropdown control, so it's hard to close it without actually clicking an entry. Note that pressing Escape then will close the entire Waterfall dialog, and not only the dropdown. |
| 09:58.07 | Ominous | Woblin: no, just auto toc pages |
| 09:58.38 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: Disabled color entries are still clickable, and bring up the color selector. |
| 09:58.53 | Ominous | vhaarr: are you on a bug finding mission this morning? |
| 09:58.58 | vhaarr | yes |
| 09:59.31 | Ominous | i wonder how much longer we will be able to use the neterwing ally trinket in arenas |
| 10:00.06 | Kebinusan | the ally stays out after you swap the trinket off |
| 10:00.42 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: Open BigWigs waterfall, disable BigWigs with the "Enabled" checkbox, click some of the disabled headers, and click the "Enabled" checkbox again, makes the headers that you clicked expand. |
| 10:01.17 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r37377 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Locale-koKR.lua: Automaton: Updated localization koKR |
| 10:06.39 | CIA-22 | 03wobin * r37378 10WheresMyCow/WheresMyCow.toc: WheresMyCow - Updated toc to have an existing category |
| 10:07.17 | Schmidt | Where can I find a convenient list of Lua wildcards? |
| 10:07.33 | bigzero | anyone have experience making the blizzard dropdown lists? I can't seem to initialize or populate them properly |
| 10:07.40 | ZealotOnAStick | ~pil |
| 10:07.57 | purl | it has been said that pil is Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1. the Python Imaging Library |
| 10:07.57 | Sole | bigzero: blizzard dropdown lists are fucking annoying |
| 10:07.57 | Schmidt | Where in PIL? |
| 10:08.02 | Wobin | string library |
| 10:08.04 | Wobin | api |
| 10:08.16 | Sole | bigzero: save yourself a headache, do it in dewdrop |
| 10:08.28 | bigzero | Sole, i realize that now, but I like the looks |
| 10:08.40 | Schmidt | Duh... Thanks, Wobin. I missed that. lol |
| 10:08.43 | Sole | you have weird taste :P |
| 10:08.59 | Sole | personally, the big chunky borders look like ass to me |
| 10:09.08 | bigzero | Sole, :-( |
| 10:09.17 | Sole | I tried using blizzard frames once before |
| 10:09.23 | Sole | I had them functioning and everything |
| 10:09.34 | Sole | but there was one problem and because of it I had to use dewdrop |
| 10:09.39 | Sole | too bad I cant remember what the problem was |
| 10:09.42 | bigzero | Sole, i guess i like it 'cause it goes with the rest of my ui...which is not much changed from the default look |
| 10:10.13 | Wobin | I have to say, Sole, if ass looks like -that-, I aint ever riding one of your donkeys |
| 10:10.18 | bigzero | alright, i'll check out dewdrop |
| 10:10.26 | Sole | Wobin: rofl, thats a good one |
| 10:10.44 | Sole | bigzero: I think blizz dropdown documentation is in the blizz files somewhere |
| 10:10.49 | durcyn | that's it, road trip to tijuana time. |
| 10:11.21 | bigzero | i wish it were....I've been looking at the template for the dropdown for the past 5 hours |
| 10:11.35 | bigzero | and the HOW TO on wowwiki sucks |
| 10:11.36 | Schmidt | Add(peanutButter, syrup):format(finishedPancake) = zehrGut |
| 10:11.56 | Wobin | bigzero: You'll have to look at the Blizzard code perhaps |
| 10:12.08 | Wobin | FrameXML stuff |
| 10:12.21 | bigzero | QQ...their code is all over the place |
| 10:12.45 | Sole | Wobin: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2106692/FrameXML/UIDropDownMenu.lua |
| 10:13.00 | Wobin | There you go |
| 10:13.10 | Sole | it wont be much help |
| 10:13.19 | Sole | but theres the file with the dropdown functions |
| 10:13.39 | Sole | personally, I love the blizz files with iriel's code |
| 10:13.50 | Sole | I get even more confused reading those than the normal blizz files |
| 10:14.08 | bigzero | how do you know which code is iriel's? |
| 10:14.10 | Wobin | ps http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Object_UIDropDownMenu |
| 10:14.22 | Wobin | Sole: Amen |
| 10:14.27 | Wobin | Sole: SecureHEader Frames |
| 10:14.38 | Sole | he wrote the SecureHeaderFrames |
| 10:14.40 | Sole | thingers |
| 10:14.47 | Sole | I still dont fucking understand that shit |
| 10:14.52 | Wobin | It's like reading in stereo |
| 10:15.01 | Sole | I remember me and Wobin trying to decipher em, it was fun |
| 10:15.10 | jwwpua | are there any addons that will show a big "interrupt" message when someone uses kick/pummel/earthshock/counterspell/etc on you? (even if it doesn't interrupt you, but just lets you know they used their interrupt) |
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| 10:15.36 | Sole | jwwpua: try adding SCT filters |
| 10:15.44 | Sole | it should be able to handle that |
| 10:16.00 | bigzero | Wobin, thanks...somehow i missed that page |
| 10:16.07 | jwwpua | could i make it do something like if kick/pummel/etc then display "interrupted attemped, heal now"? |
| 10:16.11 | Sole | yeah thats the page I used to get me started on dropdowns |
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| 10:16.28 | bigzero | i was looking at the how to..it's pretty bad |
| 10:16.49 | jwwpua | i'm trying to get used to faking heals to avoid interrupt/silence (kills a resto shammy) |
| 10:16.52 | bigzero | like no explanations for what the functions do whatsoever |
| 10:17.07 | jwwpua | and im finding it hard to notice when they try but miss their interrupt |
| 10:17.34 | Sole | jwwpua: best bet is SCT |
| 10:17.41 | jwwpua | Sole: you made gladiator right? |
| 10:17.51 | Sole | jwwpua: I havent used SCT in over a year though, so I dunno how the filters work now |
| 10:18.04 | Sole | jwwpua: correction: making . a big update is on the way probably tonight |
| 10:18.08 | Fisker- | I think MSBT should be able to do it as well |
| 10:18.13 | kbh | any good little mods out there that would maybe show me a toggable column in the auction house between "buyout" and "buyout per" for stacked goods? |
| 10:18.16 | Sole | yeah or MSBT |
| 10:18.18 | bigzero | man, i need to finish that announcement addon...a lot of people could use the features in that mod |
| 10:18.24 | jwwpua | Sole: will it ever be easy to update playerdata? |
| 10:18.32 | Fisker- | You could always ask Mikord to add it as something standard |
| 10:18.38 | art3mis | khb i think its called sellby |
| 10:18.43 | kbh | ace? |
| 10:18.47 | art3mis | or ahsellby |
| 10:18.47 | Sole | jwwpua: possibly, if I can write a program to replicate that lua script. That should be an interesting exercise |
| 10:18.52 | art3mis | dont remember |
| 10:18.59 | art3mis | all it does is that |
| 10:19.06 | jwwpua | Sole: is it too complicated to explain to me how to update it atm? |
| 10:19.07 | art3mis | should be on wowi |
| 10:19.13 | Fisker- | Fence doesn't have a collumn but it does have a per price |
| 10:19.14 | jwwpua | Sole: i d/l win32 lua5.1.exe |
| 10:19.14 | kbh | k |
| 10:19.26 | Sole | jwwpua: I dont update it , nymbia does :P |
| 10:19.27 | art3mis | or fence ;P |
| 10:19.36 | Sole | I dont have the lua environment on my machine |
| 10:19.40 | Fisker- | If you download Fence it will show "20xItem: (1G) Buyout: 20G" |
| 10:19.43 | Fisker- | if you know what i mean |
| 10:19.44 | jwwpua | oh ok |
| 10:19.46 | Punkie` | Is anyone having strange problems which I assume is parser? |
| 10:19.55 | jwwpua | i dont think he updates my battlegroup :) |
| 10:20.13 | Punkie` | I keep getting 'fake' periodic damage from thorns and SCL throws out errors every so often |
| 10:20.16 | Snarrrr | how can i get sw stats unilog visible again? |
| 10:20.18 | Sole | Punkie`: I wouldnt be surprised, ckknight did a shitload of updates to parser-3.0 last night |
| 10:20.28 | Sole | oh Parser-1.1, dunno bout that |
| 10:20.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37379 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add Unknown eventType, which will be run when other situations don't follow through. Note: this is relatively inefficient since it has to register all events. Should only be used for debugging purposes. |
| 10:20.46 | jwwpua | what's the best (efficient, low memory) addon for storing items? (like lootlink does) |
| 10:20.51 | ckknight | Sole: fake? |
| 10:21.04 | kbh | i like tooltipexchange |
| 10:21.09 | Fisker- | jwwpua i like Ludwig |
| 10:21.17 | Fisker- | But it doesn't store items as such |
| 10:21.17 | Sole | jwwpua: I still havent decided if I want to allow my users to update the playerdata themselves. That could cause a lot of stress on blizz servers |
| 10:21.21 | Fisker- | It reads your ingame cache for items |
| 10:21.22 | Punkie` | Sole: well parser-3.0 was added as an optdep so it could have broke it somehow |
| 10:21.23 | Sole | ckknight: that wasnt me, ask Punkie` about it |
| 10:21.29 | ckknight | Punkie`: fake? |
| 10:21.45 | jwwpua | Sole: even if it's limited to just 1 battlegroup? |
| 10:21.46 | ckknight | Punkie`: Parser-3.0 now has a Parser-1.1 compat layer |
| 10:22.02 | Sole | jwwpua: yar |
| 10:22.03 | Punkie` | ckknight: for example: My combat log says Im getting damage shields from a druid |
| 10:22.10 | Punkie` | Even though the druid is nowhere near me |
| 10:22.12 | jwwpua | Sole: btw that thorns think you just said, my brother was just saying how he kept getting periodic 25 dmg which wasn't actually hurting him |
| 10:22.17 | Punkie` | and SCT picks it up too |
| 10:22.30 | jwwpua | thing* |
| 10:22.34 | Sole | jwwpua: I might create a server which holds the playerdata and let users dl from there |
| 10:22.35 | Punkie` | Every time I kill someone it returns [N/A] has killed Blah |
| 10:22.37 | theoddone33 | there used to be an ace2 addon called bulkmail didn't there? |
| 10:22.40 | Sole | but I dunno if I wanna pay for that bandwidth :P |
| 10:22.43 | jwwpua | Sole: ha |
| 10:22.45 | ckknight | Punkie`: what does it normally say? |
| 10:22.49 | Fisker- | theoddone33 actually it was ace1 |
| 10:22.53 | Punkie` | It normally says You I guess |
| 10:22.54 | Fisker- | there's a BulkMail2 now as well |
| 10:22.59 | theoddone33 | ah |
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| 10:23.00 | theoddone33 | cool |
| 10:23.02 | Punkie` | ckknight: SimpleCombatLog-1.2.0.36483\core.lua:452: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
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| 10:23.05 | Fisker- | if BulkMail itself wasn't removed |
| 10:23.05 | ckknight | Punkie`: actually not according to the combat log, it should say both. |
| 10:23.11 | theoddone33 | bulkmail was removed |
| 10:23.17 | Gamefaq | hiho |
| 10:23.21 | Fisker- | Yeah but BulkMail2 is still there i see |
| 10:23.23 | theoddone33 | I was just kind of freaked because I really liked it |
| 10:23.31 | abbat_w | hi guys |
| 10:23.38 | theoddone33 | but I was looking at my update script not files.wowace.com.. .my mistake |
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| 10:23.54 | abbat_w | Can someone tell me good xml editor under win platform. Can be not free but good ;) |
| 10:24.00 | Schmidt | How do I find everything that follows "My name is " in the statement "My name is John Doe"? I tried the wildcard (.) but that picked up only the immediately following character J, not even the whole word. |
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| 10:24.19 | ckknight | Schmidt: .* |
| 10:24.24 | theoddone33 | .* is 0 or more "any characters" |
| 10:24.26 | Schmidt | thanks |
| 10:24.30 | Punkie` | ckknight: I think it's picking up damage shields from other people, and considering at my own inc damage |
| 10:24.51 | ckknight | inc damage? |
| 10:25.16 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r37380 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: |
| 10:25.16 | CIA-22 | Waterfall-1.0: |
| 10:25.16 | CIA-22 | - Disabled color pickers properly disable |
| 10:25.16 | CIA-22 | - Dropdowns disable fully |
| 10:25.16 | CIA-22 | - Dropdown pullout doesnt overlap the button |
| 10:25.17 | CIA-22 | - Tree sections don't toggle expand when disabled |
| 10:25.18 | CIA-22 | - Controls Widened slightly |
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| 10:25.48 | Punkie` | ckknight: incoming damage :p |
| 10:26.14 | jwwpua | Sole: i'm not seeing any filter options in SCT |
| 10:26.50 | Gamefaq | anyone here knows a good raidtracker that works with deDE client? |
| 10:28.49 | vhaarr | Gamefaq: NRT? |
| 10:28.59 | vhaarr | Gamefaq: http://www.nihilum.eu/forum/user-interface-addons/8359-nrt-nihilum-raid-tracker.html |
| 10:29.55 | Gamefaq | thx |
| 10:29.58 | ZealotOnAStick | vhaarr: any work ever done on that to make it export the CTRT EQDKP XML format? |
| 10:30.10 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: yeah, read the last post in the thread |
| 10:30.20 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: he attached a NRT.lua with a CT export XML |
| 10:30.28 | vhaarr | I'm going to include it in the next release |
| 10:30.40 | jwwpua | msbt = ? |
| 10:30.45 | ckknight | Punkie`: v--- |
| 10:30.47 | vhaarr | ~msbt |
| 10:31.03 | purl | well, msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 10:31.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37381 10SimpleCombatLog/core.lua: SimpleCombatLog - potential bugfix |
| 10:31.28 | Punkie` | ckknight: well I'll try it however, SCT registers the periodic damage too |
| 10:31.36 | ckknight | Punkie`: but that doesn't quite fix the issue, there will now be a "nil" somewhere in your chatlog, theoretically. Please find it and tell me where |
| 10:31.45 | Punkie` | ok |
| 10:33.45 | jwwpua | who updates SimpleCombatLog? |
| 10:33.51 | Mikk | ~chatthrottlelib |
| 10:34.07 | purl | i heard chatthrottlelib is at http://www.wowwiki.com/ChatThrottleLib. It is a library that helps addons share chat channel bandwidth and avoid disconnects due to overload. USE it or Mikk will throttle _you_. |
| 10:34.07 | Mikk | muaha |
| 10:34.20 | abbat_w | ~tuplad |
| 10:34.32 | purl | http://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg |
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| 10:35.19 | Mikk | abbat_w: http://mikk.cjb.net/fun/forum-troll/ |
| 10:35.20 | ckknight | jwwpua: it's Rophy's |
| 10:35.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 10:35.52 | Mikk | ~emulate Mikk |
| 10:36.13 | purl | ACTION butts his nose into whatever you were discussing right there and dumps his opinion on you like a metric ton of feces. Mikk never sleeps, he edits |
| 10:36.16 | Schmidt | I'm going to catch you all later. I'm quitting for the time. I've made enough progress, I think. |
| 10:36.30 | Mikk | Huhu. Someone knows me better than I know myself. |
| 10:37.20 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r37382 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/bossnames.tw.lua: |
| 10:37.20 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:37.20 | CIA-22 | - Quick fix for Trad. Chinese |
| 10:37.46 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: cool, better now, but I found a serious bug now |
| 10:38.00 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: could you try BigWigs -> Plugins -> Colors -> Number of colors |
| 10:38.10 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: slide it up and down a bit, you'll see the wrong colors enable/disable |
| 10:38.26 | Punkie` | ckknight: I've yet to see any nil's, however there are still [N/A] killed [Blah] |
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| 10:38.40 | ckknight | Punkie`: that's just how the chat log is. |
| 10:39.01 | Nargiddley | vhaarr, hmm |
| 10:39.01 | Fisker- | so anything special about NRT now that you're including EQDKP exporting? :P |
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| 10:39.21 | ENS | silithus |
| 10:39.26 | ENS | russian institute |
| 10:39.32 | ENS | orgrimmatr |
| 10:39.55 | Silviu- | vhaarr any ideea why Violation is not tracking my dmg ? on lvl 40 mobs me beying 64 ;) |
| 10:39.59 | ZealotOnAStick | well, it'd have to be less of a resource hog than CTRT. |
| 10:40.11 | Punkie` | ckknight: I've never noticed it before, especially when it's me that's killing the person |
| 10:40.13 | Mikk | Nargiddley: Ooooh another wishlist item for Baggins2. The ability to have globally defined "sections" that are shared between toons. |
| 10:40.26 | Punkie` | Especially as SCT used to register 'Killing Blow!' and no longer does |
| 10:40.28 | vhaarr | Fisker-: special? |
| 10:40.29 | ckknight | Punkie`: it should say that you killed it right before |
| 10:40.37 | vhaarr | Silviu-: no ideas |
| 10:40.38 | Mikk | Nargiddley: And yeah I realize that's doable today too by using the same config for all toons.... but that's not what I want :S |
| 10:40.40 | ckknight | Punkie`: it does for me |
| 10:41.06 | Punkie` | ok, i've never noticed the [N/A] stuff before :) |
| 10:41.13 | rophy | SCL is supposed to show [N/A] only when there is a damage message with no source, e.g. firewall, which is rare. |
| 10:41.17 | rophy | I supposed the compat layer is missing something. |
| 10:41.26 | ckknight | ah, I figured it out |
| 10:41.42 | ckknight | basically, Parser-1.1 is inconsistent on whether .source should be ParserLib_NONE or false |
| 10:41.49 | ckknight | as far as I can tell |
| 10:42.07 | Fisker- | vhaarr yeah was just wondering if it had any obvious advantages over the modded EQDKP tracker |
| 10:42.16 | vhaarr | Fisker-: how the hell should I know :P |
| 10:42.20 | Fisker- | :( |
| 10:42.21 | rophy | yes ckknight |
| 10:42.29 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r37383 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: |
| 10:42.29 | CIA-22 | Waterfall-1.0: |
| 10:42.29 | CIA-22 | - Cleanup disabled on Colors when recycled |
| 10:42.31 | ckknight | didn't realize that |
| 10:42.34 | ckknight | gotta take that into account |
| 10:42.46 | Fisker- | is the nRaidTracker on SVN yours or should i get it from the site then? |
| 10:42.57 | vhaarr | Fisker-: that's something else, it's not on the SVN |
| 10:43.05 | Fisker- | ok |
| 10:45.07 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r37384 10ShammySpy/ (Init.lua Localization.lua ShammySpy.lua): |
| 10:45.07 | CIA-22 | ShammySpy: |
| 10:45.07 | CIA-22 | - Added a deatheffect |
| 10:45.10 | rophy | ckknight: it's because 'Hit' messages always have a source before TBC, so the source in 'Hit' was non-optional, but TBC introduced firewall like attacks, and simply making source nil will break backward compatibility, so I added ParserLib_NONE as a hack. |
| 10:45.12 | Sole | jwwpua: SCT filters/messages/whatever they are are located in a lua file in the addon folder |
| 10:45.21 | Sole | it should be called custom events or something like that |
| 10:45.28 | ckknight | rophy: ick, but alright |
| 10:45.29 | abbat_w | custom_events.lua |
| 10:45.32 | abbat_w | with examples |
| 10:45.47 | Sole | ^ |
| 10:46.29 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r37385 10ShammySpy/ShammySpy.lua: |
| 10:46.30 | CIA-22 | ShammySpy: |
| 10:46.30 | CIA-22 | - Quick fix for disabling for non-shamans |
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| 10:47.30 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: looks good, thanks |
| 10:48.45 | CIA-22 | 03mok * r37386 10xchar/xchar.lua: xchar: now scans battleground stats |
| 10:49.03 | abbat_w | HonorFu & GloryLib worked? |
| 10:49.03 | Fisker- | :o |
| 10:49.30 | Fisker- | The last couple of weeks my standard UI usage has went from like 50MiB to 32MiB |
| 10:49.31 | Fisker- | :o |
| 10:50.06 | Fisker- | oh and FPS above 30 in Orgrimmar |
| 10:53.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37387 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - for Parser-1.1 compat, don't coerce source and victim to ParserLib_NONE when it doesn't in the normal ParserLib. |
| 10:54.59 | Fisker- | btw has anyone noticed the UI being a bit more annoying since 2.1? :o |
| 10:55.15 | Punkie`` | ckknight: thanks :) |
| 10:55.25 | Fisker- | Pre-2.1 if i had Spellbook + Enchanting up, if a trade window was opened it would close the spellbook, now it closes all frames |
| 10:55.49 | Fisker- | So i have to open my spellbook, open enchanting, close the spellbook and trade the person to enchant something |
| 10:56.11 | Fisker- | Oh and my spellbook + social frames doesn't work in combat :( |
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| 10:57.17 | art3mis | get lexan |
| 10:57.29 | art3mis | i believe that stops windows from being forcibly closed |
| 10:57.33 | Fisker- | vhaarr is there some commands i can use to simulate some NRT stuff? |
| 10:57.41 | vhaarr | Fisker-: like what? |
| 10:57.47 | Fisker- | raid, bosskill + loot |
| 10:57.52 | Fisker- | so i can check the export function |
| 10:57.59 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 10:58.18 | vhaarr | yes |
| 10:59.18 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:59.21 | Punkie`` | ckknight: I'm definately getting peroidic shields damage still :p |
| 10:59.48 | vhaarr | Fisker-: you can't simulate a bosskill without changing the code |
| 11:00.01 | Fisker- | ah ok |
| 11:00.07 | Fisker- | But i could make something like a trash drop then? |
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| 11:00.27 | ckknight | Punkie``: when? |
| 11:00.31 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:00.31 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37388 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - for Parser-1.1 compat, don't coerce skill to ParserLib_MELEE when it doesn't in the normal ParserLib. |
| 11:00.32 | vhaarr | for example |
| 11:00.33 | ckknight | Punkie``: i.e. how to reproduce |
| 11:00.38 | Fisker- | ok |
| 11:00.47 | vhaarr | Fisker-: just run :JoinedRaid first |
| 11:01.52 | Punkie`` | ckknight: This is the situation; |
| 11:01.57 | Punkie`` | I am standing in stealth |
| 11:02.11 | Punkie`` | and if there is a druid in combat log range getting hit by someone other than me |
| 11:02.28 | Punkie`` | i get registered as the recipient of the damage even though I am not taking it |
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| 11:02.59 | Sole | OH FUCK ME, I was writing a smooth bar fader function in omnibus, had it all written, then go to copy it and instead of ctrl+c I press ctrl+v and replace it O_O |
| 11:03.15 | ckknight | ctrl-z |
| 11:03.21 | abbat_w | Sole! |
| 11:03.22 | ckknight | oh, Omnibus |
| 11:03.33 | abbat_w | I know where you can got nice bar fader idea ;) |
| 11:03.42 | abbat_w | Look at PitBull bar fader. Sexy |
| 11:03.43 | Sole | I can rewrite it |
| 11:03.48 | Sole | its not that difficult |
| 11:04.04 | ckknight | Punkie``: found the bug |
| 11:04.06 | Necrathex | your editor doesn't support undo? |
| 11:04.07 | Mikk | Sole: If you've got parts of it saved from reload earlier, alt+f4 |
| 11:04.21 | Mikk | That way your busted paste won't be saved |
| 11:04.25 | abbat_w | alt+z for undo ;) |
| 11:04.47 | Ominous | Mikk: alt F4 saves as well |
| 11:04.53 | Ominous | Mikk: you have to crash the process |
| 11:04.54 | Mikk | it does? |
| 11:04.58 | Mikk | ok |
| 11:05.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37389 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - fix DAMAGESHIELDOTHEROTHER and DAMAGESHIELDOTHERSELF |
| 11:05.38 | ckknight | Punkie``: that should fix it |
| 11:05.40 | Punkie`` | thanks ck :) |
| 11:05.46 | ckknight | they were swapped |
| 11:05.52 | Punkie`` | aha |
| 11:05.53 | Sole | Ive changed my mind anyway, Im gonna jack the pitbull fader :P |
| 11:06.01 | Sole | Necrathex: its an ingame editor |
| 11:06.41 | Necrathex | aah |
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| 11:06.51 | Mikk | rofl @ tauren males in stylin' purple hat |
| 11:06.55 | kbh | wow my in game sound sounds horrible!! |
| 11:08.42 | Sole | abbat_w: Im not sure if the pitbull fader is the type of fader I want in glad |
| 11:09.06 | Sole | abbat_w: its a different style, I dont really have as much of a fader as just a smooth bar transition |
| 11:09.10 | beerke | Anyone can remind me off the name of the addon that auto swapped and showed special pets |
| 11:09.12 | abbat_w | ah |
| 11:09.38 | Sole | I dont think what I just said was correct english |
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| 11:11.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37390 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - for Parser-1.1 compat, properly handle the ParserLib_DAMAGESHIELD dealy. |
| 11:11.45 | theoddone33 | does checking something out in svn mean the same thing it does in cvs or the same thing it does in perforce? |
| 11:12.08 | ckknight | cvs probably. |
| 11:12.13 | art3mis | it means you're bringning a local copy home |
| 11:12.17 | art3mis | same as cvs |
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| 11:12.26 | Stephmw | aye, no co locks on the server |
| 11:12.29 | theoddone33 | that's disappointing |
| 11:12.35 | theoddone33 | but what I figured |
| 11:12.45 | art3mis | how ias that dissappointing? |
| 11:13.03 | Iceroth | you can't annoy your fellow devs by leaving files checked out for months |
| 11:13.13 | art3mis | oh hah |
| 11:13.18 | theoddone33 | well I don't really want lock on checkout |
| 11:13.31 | Punkie`` | ckknight / Sole: Latest just in: Antagonist-37038\Antagonist.lua:553: attempt to concatenate local 'spell' (a boolean value) :p |
| 11:13.31 | theoddone33 | I'm used to how perforce/sourcesafe do it |
| 11:13.38 | theoddone33 | if you want to edit something, you check it out, then you can edit it |
| 11:13.59 | theoddone33 | so when you're merging or comitting you only have to worry about files you've got checked out |
| 11:14.09 | Iceroth | i've seen sourcesafe checkouts there were done in 2005, the dev has left the company and files are still checked out for him :p |
| 11:14.17 | theoddone33 | oh yeah, we have those |
| 11:14.28 | Sole | Punkie``: thanks, I'll check it out |
| 11:14.34 | Fisker- | who made Incubator? |
| 11:14.36 | theoddone33 | we quit using sourcesafe a year and a half ago and I guarantee I still have files checked out on the server |
| 11:14.42 | Stephmw | theoddone33: svn has a local copy of the co in .svn, so it can tell what you've changed |
| 11:14.49 | Stephmw | theoddone33: no need to worry about it |
| 11:14.52 | theoddone33 | yeah that's a nice feature |
| 11:14.58 | theoddone33 | compared to cvs |
| 11:15.05 | theoddone33 | but the whole methodology is a little different |
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| 11:15.11 | Stephmw | aye |
| 11:15.27 | Iceroth | well anyone, couldn't be happier that we try to avoid sourcesafe as much as we can on new projects |
| 11:15.32 | Iceroth | *anyway |
| 11:15.32 | Stephmw | one thing: it's a hell of a lot better than Continuous/Synergy |
| 11:16.02 | theoddone33 | perforce is pretty nice, but svn is about as good as there is available if you can't swing a p4 commercial license or use the free one for whatever reason |
| 11:16.08 | Iceroth | have you tried to use sourcesafe over (slow) network file share? it's HELL |
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| 11:16.29 | Cide | hey, can someone recommend some well-written, popular ace[2] mods? I want to perform some tests |
| 11:16.32 | Sole | Punkie``: wtf thats a weird error |
| 11:16.33 | Wobin | Ultimately, it's highly useful if you're dealing with non-binary files |
| 11:16.40 | theoddone33 | whoa it's cide |
| 11:16.41 | Chompers | sole: |
| 11:16.43 | theoddone33 | way to leave my server :P |
| 11:16.45 | Sole | whoa its cide |
| 11:16.48 | theoddone33 | hope everyone in swarm is doing well |
| 11:16.50 | Cide | hi fellas :) |
| 11:16.52 | Wobin | Hey Cide |
| 11:16.56 | Wobin | Welcome to the dark side =P |
| 11:16.57 | Cide | theoddone33: we are, thanks |
| 11:17.01 | Cide | who's asking? :) |
| 11:17.04 | Cide | Wobin: thanks! |
| 11:17.07 | Chompers | any chance you can add an option to turn off the enemy status spam in Gladiator? |
| 11:17.08 | theoddone33 | this is wonderdung, not everyone will remember me though |
| 11:17.14 | vhaarr | Cide: What addon kind of depends on what tests you want to perform, I guess. |
| 11:17.20 | Punkie` | Sole: It's only since the new parser1 - 3 compat layer |
| 11:17.22 | Chompers | with a 5 man we get pages of status text |
| 11:17.24 | Sole | Chompers: ehh? |
| 11:17.31 | Sole | Punkie`: oh fuck me |
| 11:17.34 | Cide | vhaarr: just need something well-written that doesn't create 15 tables during OnUpdate |
| 11:17.37 | Sole | Punkie`: I cbf going back to finished projects |
| 11:17.46 | Cide | if possible not a 2-liner addon either |
| 11:17.47 | ckknight | Punkie`: I can't see how that error can be... |
| 11:17.50 | Cide | theoddone33: ah :) |
| 11:17.53 | art3mis | sanity2? |
| 11:17.57 | vhaarr | Cide: I don't think any addons on the svn does that, and if they do, they should be spanked. |
| 11:18.10 | art3mis | pitbull |
| 11:18.11 | Cide | vhaarr: indeed they should, just saying what I'm (not) looking for |
| 11:18.16 | ckknight | hey Cide |
| 11:18.16 | art3mis | cart |
| 11:18.20 | Sole | Chompers: you mean "CommReceived: Status.", name, health ? |
| 11:18.22 | Wobin | MrPlow might work |
| 11:18.26 | vhaarr | nah |
| 11:18.29 | Chompers | yeah |
| 11:18.34 | Cide | Wobin: then again, I've used several ace2 mods for the past 9-10 months now, so I'm not exactly a newcomer :) |
| 11:18.35 | Cide | hey ckknight |
| 11:18.40 | Wobin | it does create a lot of tables on run, but not onupdate |
| 11:18.42 | Chompers | we all get about 10 a second during a game |
| 11:18.52 | abbat_w | and btw ;) |
| 11:18.55 | vhaarr | Cide: so you need something table-heavy, then? |
| 11:18.56 | Punkie` | ckknight: I've had it 5 times in the past few minutes |
| 11:18.57 | Wobin | and it shoves stuff around the inventory, so you get lots of lootlag to play with =P |
| 11:19.04 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r37391 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 11:19.04 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 11:19.04 | CIA-22 | - You can no longer select a disabled module anymore in some of the options |
| 11:19.07 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r37392 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 11:19.07 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:19.07 | CIA-22 | - Babble-Spell-2.2: frFR Update |
| 11:19.12 | Cide | vhaarr: no, just something that is relatively popular and is not considered poorly written really |
| 11:19.15 | Sole | Chompers: lol that was left over debug code, I removed it in my local copy :P |
| 11:19.16 | Cide | I'm not particularly picky |
| 11:19.28 | Sole | Chompers: lemme finish up this smooth bar thing and I'll commit |
| 11:19.33 | Chompers | sole: lulz :P |
| 11:19.34 | abbat_w | i like PitBull aura timers. But still want option for turn off/on separetly by module (off for party, on for player for example :) |
| 11:19.39 | Chompers | yeah, no rush |
| 11:19.55 | Sole | might be a while, seeing as I deleted my code :( |
| 11:19.55 | vhaarr | Cide: I'd say there's really no such addon, actually -- take Cartographer, for example, while most of the codebase is good, there is some weird stuff going on there as well. |
| 11:20.05 | Sole | < rides the special bus |
| 11:20.10 | Cide | there's no popular and well-written ace[2] addon? |
| 11:20.11 | vhaarr | Cide: my ClosetGnome is pretty good, but it's still beta. |
| 11:20.24 | Sole | Cide: we like to think most of them are well-written :P |
| 11:20.27 | vhaarr | pitbull is wellwritten, but agUF uses less resources. |
| 11:20.45 | Cide | Sole: then all I'm asking for is popular ace2 addons then, no? ;) |
| 11:20.47 | vhaarr | Cide: BigWigs is pretty good, I guess. |
| 11:20.52 | JoshBorke | this is a chance to toot your own horn people, come on :-P |
| 11:20.58 | Iceroth | hehe, might be somewhat hard to find a guy here who says "my addon is just the perfect example of how to use ace2 properly - and it's ready as well" :p |
| 11:21.09 | Sole | yah |
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| 11:21.25 | abbat_w | Iceroth, it's oCB i think ;) |
| 11:21.39 | Sole | if we say that, then ckk will go look at it, and rewrite his implementation just to make stick it in someones face |
| 11:21.45 | Sole | thats not what he does already, srsly |
| 11:21.49 | abbat_w | works for me over and over. don't update it in last ~ 3 month |
| 11:21.51 | Cide | so what you're saying is that there is no addon that utilizes ace2 in a good way and is popular? :P I'm not believing that! |
| 11:22.04 | ckknight | Cide: everything is gray |
| 11:22.08 | Cide | then yeah, I can understand that pulling something up might not be that easy offhand, but if you think of something let me know |
| 11:22.12 | Wobin | Well |
| 11:22.14 | vhaarr | Cide: BigWigs, Cartographer, FuBar, but yeah, everything is grey, as ckknight said. |
| 11:22.16 | Cide | I'm looking into what you've suggested so far :) |
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| 11:22.32 | Wobin | The problem is what is your definition of good |
| 11:22.32 | Sole | ARENAMASTER!\ |
| 11:22.39 | Wobin | or well written |
| 11:22.40 | vhaarr | Cide: If you could say what kind of tests you want to perform, it would make it easier to suggest something. |
| 11:22.43 | ckknight | Cide: most of my stuff is libraries, really |
| 11:22.54 | Wobin | I would say my addons are good, and possible well written, but there's always room for improvement |
| 11:23.12 | Cide | well, I'm curious how ace2 addons are affected by the libraries they use in terms of memory and cpu usage/overhead in comparison to other addons mostly |
| 11:23.16 | Sole | Cide: DeadlyBossMods is well-written and popular, just not ace2 |
| 11:23.25 | vhaarr | Sole: lol, fuck off. |
| 11:23.26 | Wobin | I think the majority of us are leery of putting forward an addon, since we're never going to mark it as 'perfect' |
| 11:23.33 | Sole | vhaarr: :D |
| 11:23.41 | Cide | Wobin: not asking for the perfect addon :) |
| 11:23.48 | art3mis | well to be fair it depends on what the addons doing |
| 11:23.53 | Wobin | hm, okay, library usage? |
| 11:23.54 | Wobin | Fubar? |
| 11:23.56 | vhaarr | Cide: You have to be more specific. |
| 11:23.56 | art3mis | a lot of ace2 stuff tends to multi task |
| 11:24.01 | Cide | vhaarr: how so? |
| 11:24.05 | JoshBorke | oh geebus |
| 11:24.06 | vhaarr | Cide: What libraries? |
| 11:24.10 | JoshBorke | let me get some popcorn |
| 11:24.24 | Cide | vhaarr: doesn't matter |
| 11:24.25 | Wobin | We wanna make a good impression =) |
| 11:24.29 | Sole | JoshBorke: rofl |
| 11:24.35 | vhaarr | Cide: ClosetGnome uses almost no events, for example, it only hooks a bit and makes use of the fubar plugins, dewdrop and tablet libraries. |
| 11:24.36 | ckknight | ~depants Cide |
| 11:24.54 | purl | ACTION grabs and pulls down Cide's pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties. |
| 11:24.54 | vhaarr | Cide: While BigWigs uses a *lot* of events. |
| 11:24.54 | JoshBorke | purl, ckknight-- |
| 11:24.54 | Cide | ~sex-up ckknight |
| 11:25.15 | Fisker- | ~depands Fisker- |
| 11:25.36 | ckknight | bad, JoshBorke |
| 11:25.36 | Fisker- | doh |
| 11:25.36 | Cide | ooh, this is turning out to be a no-pants party |
| 11:25.36 | art3mis | ~emulate bender |
| 11:25.41 | purl | Bite my shiny, metal ass! |
| 11:25.41 | Fisker- | ~depants Fisker- |
| 11:25.43 | purl | ACTION grabs and pulls down Fisker-'s pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties. |
| 11:25.43 | Cide | I'm starting to feel excited |
| 11:25.43 | Sole | Cide: KTM, its modular and all that |
| 11:25.43 | ckknight | Punkie`: how do I reproduce? |
| 11:25.44 | vhaarr | Cide: a simple addon that could just as well be written without the Ace2 libs might be something like ErrorMonster, for example. |
| 11:25.44 | Fisker- | This is where my pants are (legs) |
| 11:25.48 | Fisker- | This is where i want them to be: The floor |
| 11:25.50 | Fisker- | thanks purl |
| 11:26.38 | ckknight | Cide: oh man, have you seen KTM's code? It's like he refuses to press the shift key, absolutely everything is lowercase |
| 11:27.27 | ckknight | as well as some crazy global pollution |
| 11:27.27 | sbu | morning |
| 11:27.27 | Cide | some people prefer camelCase, some don't :) |
| 11:27.27 | CIA-22 | 03wobin * r37393 10WheresMyCow/Cow.lua: WheresMyCow - Added in custom strings |
| 11:27.27 | vhaarr | ckknight: all addons except our addons pollute the global scope like leaves on a tree. |
| 11:27.27 | Sole | ckknight: you mean thisisavariable or this_is_a_variable? |
| 11:27.27 | Fisker- | I Prefer PascalCase |
| 11:27.27 | ckknight | Sole: thisisavariable |
| 11:27.30 | Sole | oh jeebus |
| 11:27.31 | ckknight | Sole: snake_case is fine in my book |
| 11:27.37 | Wobin | k, for anyone interested: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WheresMyCow |
| 11:27.37 | Cide | oh god, yeah |
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| 11:27.48 | Sole | I tend to use snake_case |
| 11:27.53 | Cide | for lowercase you should definitely use underscores in my opinion |
| 11:27.59 | Cide | but again, it's partly a matter of personal taste |
| 11:28.11 | art3mis | gasp |
| 11:28.19 | Sole | kinda in the transition phase from PascalCase to snake_case, because I realised I like underscores |
| 11:28.23 | art3mis | wobin actually including information on an ace2 addon?!?! |
| 11:28.27 | art3mis | im scared |
| 11:28.29 | art3mis | hole me |
| 11:28.30 | Sole | WTF |
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| 11:28.32 | art3mis | hold me |
| 11:28.37 | Cide | vhaarr: well, what originally sparked my interest was ElkBuffBar's populary. I wanted to see how CT_BuffMod compared to it. I didn't feel the comparison was fair though, as EBB uses a fair amount of libraries, so I wanted to extend my repertoire of addons |
| 11:28.39 | Sole | WOBIN!? DOCUMENTATION!? |
| 11:28.50 | Wobin | I know |
| 11:28.53 | Wobin | scary wot? |
| 11:28.53 | Cide | that turned out to be a rather general statement, so it might not exactly be directed to vhaarr anymore, fyi :P |
| 11:29.09 | vhaarr | Cide: alright, well I can't speak for EBBs code, since I haven't touched it at all. |
| 11:29.31 | art3mis | best suggestion for comparisson |
| 11:29.31 | Cide | I'm not asking you to, I'm just shedding some light on what I'm trying to do |
| 11:29.34 | Wobin | Cartographer? |
| 11:29.39 | Sole | Cide: you could run it without embeds |
| 11:29.40 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37394 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Can lock the display now. |
| 11:29.43 | art3mis | find a mod in the ace2 library that mimics one you have thast not ace |
| 11:29.44 | Sole | if you just wanna test mem usage |
| 11:30.04 | art3mis | and compare its performance |
| 11:30.04 | vhaarr | Cide: I guess, what it boils down to is that the more addons that use the libraries, the cheaper they become. |
| 11:30.05 | Sole | indeed |
| 11:30.11 | Cide | which is why I want to use more addons |
| 11:30.11 | vhaarr | Cide: So if you run *only* EBBs, then I'm sure your mod would be better. |
| 11:30.18 | Sole | and we all use a lot of the same libs :) |
| 11:30.23 | Cide | read the final sentence :) |
| 11:30.26 | Cide | "I didn't feel the comparison was fair though, as EBB uses a fair amount of libraries, so I wanted to extend my repertoire of addons" |
| 11:30.31 | Wobin | It's a horribly incesteous relationship =P |
| 11:30.38 | vhaarr | Cide: The problem, then, is that measuring this is really hard, since you can't just take the library usage and divide it on the number of addons that use it. |
| 11:30.40 | Sole | ooh incest |
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| 11:30.48 | Wobin | A game the whole family can enjoy! |
| 11:30.54 | ckknight | keep it in the family |
| 11:30.59 | Chompers | even grandpa |
| 11:31.02 | Wobin | Relatively boring |
| 11:31.16 | art3mis | just reedo yer interface from the gound up using only ace2 and compare the benchamarks between them |
| 11:31.16 | CIA-22 | 03belazor * r37395 10CharacterInfoStorage/CharacterInfoStorage.toc: |
| 11:31.16 | CIA-22 | CharacterInfoStorage: |
| 11:31.16 | CIA-22 | - TOC bump to 2.1 |
| 11:31.16 | art3mis | keeping most of the same "types" |
| 11:31.19 | Sole | typical, the aussie would know all about incest |
| 11:31.22 | Cide | vhaarr: right - however, with the advent of the memory and cpu profiling of 2.1, we should be able to at least get a partly correct measurement, no? |
| 11:31.29 | Wobin | Well, we keep to the human species =) |
| 11:31.29 | art3mis | thats about the only way you're going to get a fair comparrison |
| 11:31.36 | vhaarr | Cide: No, not really. |
| 11:31.40 | Cide | why not? |
| 11:31.47 | Sole | humans get boring though |
| 11:31.52 | Wobin | Baaaah |
| 11:31.53 | Sole | horses provide more beef |
| 11:31.53 | vhaarr | because the usage is pinned at the library, no matter what addon uses it. |
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| 11:32.12 | art3mis | if a single addon uses 3 libs for a simple task, itll compared worse addon vs addon |
| 11:32.13 | Cide | I have an addon called Ace2 - that should take up the bulk of the memory usage then? |
| 11:32.15 | Wobin | That has to be the scariest statement I've heard in a while =P |
| 11:32.30 | vhaarr | Cide: Yes, but there's no way to tell which of your addons use 10% or 90% of Ace2's usage. |
| 11:32.33 | art3mis | however if 8 addonds use the same 3 libs they'll perform better than 8 other randoms |
| 11:32.37 | Sole | Wobin: :P |
| 11:32.49 | theoddone33 | uninstall all but one |
| 11:33.03 | Cide | vharr: why not? |
| 11:33.13 | vhaarr | Cide: How would you do that, then? |
| 11:33.26 | Wobin | The packaging surrounding the biscuits have holes. And the soup gets in. |
| 11:33.46 | Sole | Its raining outside but Im not wet! |
| 11:33.48 | theoddone33 | independent libraries |
| 11:33.50 | Cide | if I understand the principle correctly (since I do use it myself) - you're checking if the Ace2 library already exists in your library files - if it does, return and don't execute the file. correct? |
| 11:34.04 | ckknight | separate issue |
| 11:34.21 | Cide | the first addon to register the library gets attributed the memory usage for the rest |
| 11:34.38 | vhaarr | yes |
| 11:35.10 | Sole | you can still get individual addon usage by disembeding, can you not? however you'll have to take into account the library mem usage also |
| 11:35.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37396 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add an assertion |
| 11:35.47 | ckknight | Punkie`: see what that does |
| 11:37.28 | vhaarr | Cide: You can't get the numbers you want to get with the API provided by blizzard per today. |
| 11:37.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37397 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - typo |
| 11:38.24 | vhaarr | Basically, the closest thing you'll get is with disembedded libraries and (library usage / number of addons that use that library). |
| 11:38.28 | Cide | say you measure the memory used by every library separately, and then divide that by the number of addons that use that library. would adding that memory to each and every addon that uses the library be extremely wrong, and if so, why? |
| 11:38.34 | vhaarr | Which is, of course, horribly wrong. |
| 11:38.41 | Cide | "of course" - why? |
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| 11:39.09 | Matrix110 | nooby question: why isnt the 2nd line working(1st line works) http://ace.pastey.net/42907 |
| 11:39.12 | Punkie` | ckknight: will do |
| 11:39.12 | vhaarr | Cide: Like I just said earlier - ClosetGnome, for example, doesn't use events, and BigWigs uses tons of events. |
| 11:39.26 | Cide | vhaarr: what's that to do with the memory usage of a library? |
| 11:39.41 | Cide | does ClosetGnome still register AceEvent, or what? |
| 11:39.49 | vhaarr | yes, because it uses 1 or 2 events sometimes. |
| 11:39.54 | Sole | Matrix110: because god hates you |
| 11:39.58 | vhaarr | but only when you change equipment sets. |
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| 11:40.03 | vhaarr | not during idle time. |
| 11:40.06 | Cide | and AceEvent is a rather complex event handler? |
| 11:40.07 | Matrix110 | that isnt really helping me Sole :P |
| 11:40.12 | JoshBorke | cide: Grid |
| 11:40.14 | Sole | :P |
| 11:40.40 | vhaarr | Cide: And things like TabletLib depend heavily on the addon that uses it. |
| 11:40.50 | vhaarr | Cide: How often they update display, how complex the display is. |
| 11:40.50 | vhaarr | etc |
| 11:40.55 | vhaarr | Cide: Same with dewdrop. |
| 11:41.01 | vhaarr | So you can't just divide the use. |
| 11:41.02 | Cide | and AceEvent is a rather complex event handler? |
| 11:41.06 | Sole | Matrix110: I cant see the problem with that code |
| 11:41.09 | abyssichate | Is SCTD broken? Spell colours look like not working |
| 11:41.21 | vhaarr | Cide: I don't see how it matters whether a library is complex or not, what is your point? |
| 11:41.42 | Matrix110 | yes abyssichate it is broken |
| 11:41.56 | abyssichate | Okei |
| 11:42.04 | abyssichate | I updated today and something broke it |
| 11:42.15 | Cide | my point is that if AceEvent is a big "monster" of memory then yes, I can see your point with ClosetGnome - if it's extremely tiny then you likely only gain by dividing the memory with it |
| 11:42.28 | Cide | not in ClosetGnome's favor possibly, but in other addons' favor |
| 11:42.32 | vhaarr | yes |
| 11:43.09 | Cide | on the other hand, if it's a huge addon for a very tiny addon, it might not be very wise to use it for 1-2 events (unless you need custom events that it supports, iirc?) |
| 11:43.15 | Cide | so that's also a toss-up |
| 11:44.04 | Iceroth | the odds are though that some other addon has already loaded the aceevent so me using it for little things won't really matter at all |
| 11:44.06 | vhaarr | Cide: yes, but then we're into "why are you using these libraries", which is really a separate discussion. |
| 11:44.10 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r37398 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 11:44.10 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 11:44.10 | CIA-22 | - fix implementation of disabling and enabling modules |
| 11:44.11 | Punkie` | I think the whole point is, the more Ace2 addons you use, the less cputime/memory usage per addon using it |
| 11:44.16 | doktoreas | sorry wich is the addon for select level of detail while in game? |
| 11:44.21 | Saroz | vhaarr, cannot find module "Damage", Violation? |
| 11:44.32 | vhaarr | Saroz: when |
| 11:44.35 | Saroz | now |
| 11:44.39 | Saroz | I click the fubar thingie |
| 11:44.39 | Cide | Punkie`: I'm curious about the cputime part - how does that relate to shared libraries? |
| 11:45.13 | Cide | vhaarr: right - but it brings me to my next point - if you are using those libraries, is the argument that you're not using them "very much" a valid argument in the first place? |
| 11:45.14 | Punkie` | Cide: I guess if Ace2 is handling all the event functions, then there is no need to add that into your own addon too |
| 11:45.18 | Cide | s/but it/which/ |
| 11:45.20 | vhaarr | Saroz: I'm not getting any errors. |
| 11:45.31 | Cide | Punkie`: which only decreases memory usage |
| 11:45.51 | vhaarr | Cide: I'd say that if you want performance numbers to be accurate, yes. |
| 11:46.41 | Cide | let us define what accurate means in this context, since it's somewhat ambiguous when it comes to shared memory |
| 11:46.50 | Cide | what would you consider the most accurate measurement? |
| 11:47.13 | vhaarr | Cide: the most accurate measurement you can get today is (library usage / number of addons that use it) |
| 11:47.28 | Cide | in a perfect world - what would be the proper way to document an ace2 addon's memory usage? |
| 11:47.37 | Wobin | Cide: Absolutely. In regards to amount of usage, if you're not going to take advantage of the special features the library can offer (eg AceEvent's bucketing or somesuch) you might be better off using a smaller library like Dongle or no library at all |
| 11:47.57 | vhaarr | the proper way would be for the CPU/mem measurement functions to attribute library calls to the addon that makes them |
| 11:48.10 | Cide | Wobin: which is one of the things I want to take into account when picking addons - I don't want them to add a bunch of libraries that they don't use |
| 11:48.12 | JoshBorke | when did this simple goal of getting some raw numbers, perhaps not precise or entirely comparable to others turn into a defense of the "Ace" design paradigm? |
| 11:48.12 | Wobin | Tornhoof: Why do you do that? =) |
| 11:48.27 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: who's defending? |
| 11:48.39 | Wobin | It seems an entirely polite discussion |
| 11:48.52 | JoshBorke | you're right, it is |
| 11:49.01 | Tornhoof | that's my bncer wobin ;) |
| 11:49.04 | Cide | vhaarr: but for ace2 addons, there is no one addon that makes the functions - only the calls. the memory is there, and you can't "call" memory |
| 11:49.19 | Leialyn | ckknight: In SimpleCombatLog with Parser3.0 I don't get environment dmg shown properly... If I fall down I get [You] nil 968 |
| 11:49.21 | Wobin | Tornhoof: bncer? |
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| 11:49.27 | Cide | simply including them attributes you a bunch of memory, regardless of whether or not you actually make good use of it |
| 11:49.31 | vhaarr | Cide: you could attribute any memory gain from a call to the addon that made the call, theoretically. |
| 11:49.39 | Tornhoof | bouncer, persistent irc proxy ;) |
| 11:49.48 | Cide | vhaarr: right - if the call creates an object or such |
| 11:50.10 | vhaarr | right, and if it doesn't there's no memory overhead, just CPU usage |
| 11:50.11 | Wobin | Tornhoof: Keeps you from idling out? |
| 11:50.15 | vhaarr | which could be handled as well |
| 11:50.18 | vhaarr | Cide: but it's not handled. |
| 11:50.29 | vhaarr | It's all attributed to the library at this point. |
| 11:50.29 | *** join/#wowace dotk (i=sigh@c211-30-178-178.artrmn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 11:50.30 | Cide | vhaarr: but then you could argue that including the library in the first place is a type of function call that creates an object - include("library") returns a table of functions |
| 11:50.36 | vhaarr | So getting an accurate measurement isn't possible. |
| 11:50.46 | Tornhoof | yeh keeps me in irc all day long, without actually having a client attached to it |
| 11:50.56 | vhaarr | Cide: yeah, but that's another discussion, I think. |
| 11:51.02 | Cide | I think it's very related |
| 11:51.28 | vhaarr | yes but it's irrelevant to you getting accurate measures or not. |
| 11:51.56 | Wobin | Tornhoof: Whyfor? =) Does it store privmsgs? |
| 11:52.08 | Tornhoof | yes |
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| 11:52.37 | Tornhoof | mostly useful for other irc networks, where there is no nickserv ;) |
| 11:52.51 | ckknight | Leialyn: k, I'll look into it |
| 11:52.54 | Punkie` | ckknight: Antagonist-37038\Antagonist.lua:553: attempt to concatenate local 'spell' (a boolean value) still after that fix |
| 11:53.09 | ckknight | Punkie`: debugstack? |
| 11:53.12 | Cide | vhaarr: I don't think anyone in here has the illusion that you'll be able to properly record and attribute every byte of memory to the appropriate ace2 addon |
| 11:53.34 | Wobin | dotk: You're scarily close to where I live =P |
| 11:53.35 | vhaarr | Cide: right, you asked, I answered :) |
| 11:53.39 | Cide | vhaarr: on the other hand, does that not only work in the addons' favor, given that the Ace2 addon should pick up most of the memory? |
| 11:53.43 | Leialyn | ckknight: dunno if it only occurs on deDE clients, I can't tell for enUS/GB ones ^^ |
| 11:53.50 | Punkie` | ckknight: that's all BugSack gives me, nothing else |
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| 11:53.58 | art3mis | crystal charged focus rule |
| 11:54.06 | ckknight | Punkie`: hrm... |
| 11:54.08 | art3mis | 2k hps instant restore |
| 11:54.12 | vhaarr | Cide: not if you divide the library usage among all the ace2 addons, then some addons will suffer and some will gain. |
| 11:54.17 | art3mis | super easy to get and stack in 20s |
| 11:54.31 | art3mis | if only there was a mana version |
| 11:54.36 | vhaarr | Cide: anyway, I think you understand how it works, and I'd be interested in your results. |
| 11:54.41 | Cide | vhaarr: I'm only talking the static memory usage here, that is, the memory you get from simply including it |
| 11:54.49 | vhaarr | Cide: ah, right |
| 11:55.09 | Iceroth | well imo, you could just load the 1 ace addon you are interested in with embedded libs and see how it compares to the non-ace reference addon |
| 11:55.10 | Cide | enjoy your lunch :) |
| 11:55.24 | Cide | Iceroth: that goes against the ace2 design principle though |
| 11:56.24 | Iceroth | maybe but i doubt many ace addons would have to ashamed of the results though |
| 11:56.35 | Saroz | vhaarr, cant see any modules activated |
| 11:56.37 | Cide | Iceroth: ah, let's see... |
| 11:56.47 | Punkie` | ckknight: And also, Killing Blow is still not shown, I believe the message should be [You] Killed 'rank' Blah: Honor... however the You is not displayed. |
| 11:57.03 | nevcairiel | i think HotCandy gets a lot of overhead from the ace2 libs tho =P |
| 11:57.06 | nevcairiel | if its the only addon |
| 11:57.06 | ckknight | Punkie`: that's an honor thing, ah |
| 11:57.24 | Cide | Iceroth: now that you said it... ElkBuffBar uses 15 times more memory than a non-ace2 equivalent and almost 10 times more cpu time - hardly a fair and just measurement I think |
| 11:57.28 | Punkie` | Ah, gotcha |
| 11:57.42 | Saroz | vhaarr, Violation.lua:1474: Cannot find module "Damage" |
| 11:58.20 | Tornhoof | cide, elkbuffbar or -bars? |
| 11:58.38 | Iceroth | Cide, that sounds rather disturbing |
| 11:58.54 | ckknight | Punkie`: don't know about that, seeing as the parser doesn't check for the [You] part, that's all SCL |
| 11:58.55 | Chompers | 15 times more than what addon? |
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| 12:00.02 | Cide | Tornhoof: um, ElkBuffBars - the beta version |
| 12:00.21 | Tornhoof | yah ok :) |
| 12:00.31 | Cide | Iceroth: I thought so too |
| 12:00.33 | Cide | Chompers: CT_BuffMod |
| 12:00.47 | Tornhoof | compare elkbuffbar vs. elkbuffbars ;) |
| 12:00.53 | Cide | why should I? |
| 12:00.55 | Tornhoof | the one without ace |
| 12:00.59 | Tornhoof | and the one with it |
| 12:01.13 | Tornhoof | same coder, same coding style etc. |
| 12:01.17 | Cide | ah, good point |
| 12:01.20 | Cide | I'll make sure to do that :) thanks |
| 12:01.56 | Tornhoof | it's certainly missing some parts, but afaik much the original code from elkbuffbar is still in -bars |
| 12:02.23 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r37399 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua: |
| 12:02.23 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 12:02.23 | CIA-22 | - Babble-Herbs-2.2: frFR Update |
| 12:03.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37400 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - fix Parser-1.1 compat environment damageType. |
| 12:04.16 | Saroz | "Cannot find a library instance of parser-3.0" when I log in... oookay |
| 12:04.16 | nevcairiel | i was considering if i should really use Ace2 for my next project, since i couldnt find any real use for like 90% of the functionality. |
| 12:04.35 | cladhaire | i dont use dongle if i dont need it |
| 12:04.42 | cladhaire | more problems, and not worth it |
| 12:04.53 | nevcairiel | the only thing i would miss is the chat command handling |
| 12:04.55 | Tornhoof | btw, can i hook playsound in wow? |
| 12:05.16 | nevcairiel | but i guess i can write my own options parser |
| 12:05.21 | nevcairiel | very simple :) |
| 12:07.38 | ckknight | Punkie`: do me a favor |
| 12:07.57 | Saroz | ckknight, "Cannot find a library instance of parser-3.0" when I log in... sup with dat? |
| 12:08.10 | ckknight | Saroz: clearly, you need Parser-3.0. Is this not obvious? |
| 12:08.25 | Saroz | I just updated all my mods from SVN, thats all, sooo |
| 12:09.00 | ckknight | Punkie`: at line 553, add `if not spell then AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print(debugstack()) end` and run it, tell me what it outputs |
| 12:09.16 | ckknight | Saroz: so install Parser-3.0 |
| 12:09.33 | Saroz | or.. set it as an external |
| 12:10.31 | sbu | nevcairiel: but the lib is loaded anyway? so why reinventing the wheel? :p |
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| 12:11.03 | Stephmw | sbu: competition is good! |
| 12:11.11 | ckknight | it should be set |
| 12:11.11 | ckknight | what addon is giving the error? |
| 12:11.30 | Saroz | I can't see that... it just shows me that error |
| 12:11.33 | Saroz | simplecombatlog? |
| 12:11.39 | nevcairiel | sbu: alot of people might only use my addon and not much else, just trying to not add unneeded overhead :p |
| 12:11.48 | ckknight | Saroz: that doesn't request Parser-3.0 |
| 12:12.02 | sbu | nevcairiel: so tell me, what is it going to be? :p |
| 12:12.14 | sbu | Discord-Reloaded? |
| 12:12.22 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 12:13.08 | Cide | I think you're doing the right thing by not including a library if you won't use it, nevcairiel |
| 12:13.17 | nevcairiel | of course i am |
| 12:13.18 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:13.22 | JoshBorke | lies! all lies! |
| 12:13.25 | Cide | and saying the opposite is encouraging bad behavior |
| 12:13.27 | evl | So what's up with Pitbull? |
| 12:13.28 | JoshBorke | purl, smite Cide |
| 12:13.45 | purl | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves Cide from crown to sole. |
| 12:13.45 | evl | It's wierding out after 2.1 |
| 12:14.00 | Punkie` | ckknight: sorry missed you, doing so now |
| 12:15.23 | Leialyn | ckknight: your fix seems to work ^^ |
| 12:15.26 | f0zle | How would a macro that selfbandages work? |
| 12:15.58 | JoshBorke | f0zle: /use [target=player] Bandage |
| 12:15.59 | JoshBorke | ? |
| 12:16.33 | f0zle | will that use heavy netherweave bandage? or just whatever bandage |
| 12:16.46 | ckknight | Leialyn: yep. |
| 12:16.49 | JoshBorke | that will use an item called Bandage |
| 12:17.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37401 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - use constants instead of strings in the backwards compat system |
| 12:18.05 | art3mis | hahahahahaha |
| 12:18.20 | ckknight | ? |
| 12:18.20 | art3mis | appearantly every WUU exe i have avg thinks is a trojan horse |
| 12:18.28 | ckknight | lol |
| 12:18.33 | abyssichate | AVG is like aids |
| 12:18.38 | renchap | art3mis: thats a mistake |
| 12:18.44 | art3mis | ya think? |
| 12:19.04 | Saroz | ckknight, gah, it's Violation -.- |
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| 12:19.10 | renchap | http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/arch_d7_2006_08_12.shtml#e432 |
| 12:19.17 | art3mis | just thought that was kind of funny |
| 12:19.25 | art3mis | its the autoupdater code ;P |
| 12:19.39 | renchap | the python compiler for windows |
| 12:19.44 | Punkie` | ckknight: inc screenshot |
| 12:19.45 | art3mis | somedays im surprised it doesnt catch blizz stuff ;P |
| 12:20.02 | renchap | one virus was written with python => all python programs on windows are detected as viruses |
| 12:20.15 | art3mis | thats a fair assumption though |
| 12:20.30 | Livehelper | Hi... Can someone tell me how to find the name of a frame for use with the eepanels parent option? I'm using Pitbull, and I already spent a bit of time looking through the code to try and figure it out, but no luck... :/ |
| 12:20.50 | vhaarr | Saroz: Violation doesn't use Parser-3.0. |
| 12:21.01 | JoshBorke | Livehelper: i use dtframestack |
| 12:21.04 | JoshBorke | ~devtools |
| 12:21.16 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 12:21.16 | Punkie` | ckknight: http://www.booncontrol.com/parsererror.jpg |
| 12:21.16 | Saroz | vhaarr, threat-1.0 does |
| 12:21.23 | vhaarr | Saroz: it should be made parser-agnostic |
| 12:21.26 | CIA-22 | 03wobin * r37402 10WheresMyCow/ (Cow.lua Libs/Dongle.lua WheresMyCow.toc): WheresMyCow - New Dongle |
| 12:21.33 | Saroz | vhaarr, don't tell me that |
| 12:21.51 | Saroz | right now Violation wont load because Threat is missing Parser 3-0 |
| 12:22.07 | vhaarr | Saroz: so fix Threat-1.0 then |
| 12:22.37 | CIA-22 | 03wobin * r37403 10WheresMyCow/Libs/ (DongleStub.lua DongleUtils.lua): WheresMyCow - deleted old files |
| 12:23.03 | Stephmw | Wobin: I'm so disappointed, I thought that was a mod to keep track of my taurens :( |
| 12:23.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37404 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - bugfix in Dispel eventType (sourceAbilityName and recipientAbilityName were swapped) |
| 12:23.25 | ckknight | Punkie`: :-) |
| 12:23.32 | abyssichate | Violation really rocks now |
| 12:23.37 | Livehelper | JoshBorke: thanks, I'll take a look at that |
| 12:23.38 | abyssichate | good work on that :D. |
| 12:24.16 | Nimble | holy smokes |
| 12:24.21 | Nimble | has anyone here done heroic arcatraz? |
| 12:24.35 | abyssichate | yeah |
| 12:24.43 | ckknight | Saroz: basically, I've been adding to Parser-3.0 a Parser-1.1 compat layer so that you will only need Parser-3.0 and not need Parser-1.1. It may be in your best interest to use that as a standalone temporarily |
| 12:24.43 | Nimble | On the demon lady with whirlwind |
| 12:24.47 | Nimble | is it predictable at all? |
| 12:24.50 | abyssichate | no |
| 12:24.50 | Nimble | I can't move out of it fast enough... |
| 12:24.53 | ckknight | Punkie`: I'll get it all eventually |
| 12:24.57 | Saroz | ok ckknight |
| 12:24.59 | abyssichate | sometimes it goes smooth, sometimes it takes us 5 wipes |
| 12:25.02 | CIA-22 | 03whitetooth * r37405 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 12:25.02 | CIA-22 | RatingBuster: |
| 12:25.02 | CIA-22 | - Updated Taiwan localization |
| 12:25.04 | abyssichate | or at least, it used to be like that |
| 12:25.19 | Nimble | god |
| 12:25.23 | stavmar | why might quartz not load up automatically upon starting the game? |
| 12:25.26 | Nimble | is it supposed to be literally impossible to get out in time? T_T |
| 12:25.39 | abyssichate | no clue, I am a caster! |
| 12:25.58 | Tornhoof | nimble, get more hp |
| 12:26.17 | Nimble | 9k unbuffed T_T |
| 12:26.40 | Tornhoof | it does something like 5k on mail if i'm correct |
| 12:27.00 | Tornhoof | surviving two hits is your goal ;) |
| 12:27.49 | Nimble | man this is DEFINITELY not a rogue fight |
| 12:27.49 | Nimble | 2 hits kills me and I can't seem to get out before that |
| 12:27.49 | abyssichate | I wonder what broke SCTD coloured per type damage |
| 12:27.49 | Punkie` | ckknight: I know, I'm just giving you all the bugs I can ;D |
| 12:27.55 | ckknight | Punkie`: well, that's the point :-P |
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| 12:27.58 | Tornhoof | she always does both of her other casts before she does the new whirlwind afaik nimble |
| 12:28.18 | Punkie` | ckknight: fix the kill message now! :D |
| 12:28.30 | kbh | my tooltip exchange has a little box under it with the mats for crafted items and raid drop info |
| 12:28.37 | kbh | any way i could get that on all my tooltips? |
| 12:28.44 | ckknight | Punkie`: is it an HK thing? |
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| 12:28.56 | Nimble | Tornhoof: so perhaps a few melee after the 2 casts then just back out? |
| 12:28.58 | ckknight | Punkie`: or a PvE kill? |
| 12:29.13 | Punkie` | HK :) |
| 12:29.20 | Tornhoof | i did that as an enh shaman there nimble |
| 12:29.32 | Tornhoof | even though i manage to get out with one hit only |
| 12:29.37 | Tornhoof | since my hitbox is larger ;) |
| 12:29.58 | Saroz | hurry with that layer ckknight, or I'm getting flamed at raid tonight for having people use Violation and now it's broken :p |
| 12:30.04 | Nimble | this is by far the hardest heroic I've done yet |
| 12:30.07 | Nimble | I'm not having fun |
| 12:30.13 | ckknight | Saroz: it basically works now. |
| 12:30.21 | ckknight | Saroz: just install Parser-3.0 |
| 12:30.30 | kbh | what heroic nim? |
| 12:30.32 | Tornhoof | it's nerfed heavily in 2.1 nimble |
| 12:30.34 | Saroz | I did, need to change the Violation toc though :p |
| 12:30.34 | Nimble | arcatraz |
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| 12:30.50 | ckknight | Saroz: that you'll need vhaarr's permission for |
| 12:30.52 | Nimble | Tornhoof: it must have been really screwed up before |
| 12:31.00 | Tornhoof | you can try littlewigs too nimble, dunno if the whirlwind warning is good though |
| 12:31.08 | Nimble | it doesn't have one lol |
| 12:31.13 | Tornhoof | it should? |
| 12:31.17 | Saroz | which boss Nimble? |
| 12:31.26 | Nimble | dalliah the doomslayer |
| 12:31.30 | Saroz | no it doesnt |
| 12:31.38 | Saroz | make a transscript log and we'll add it |
| 12:31.40 | Nimble | it tells me when it starts...as if I can't tell |
| 12:31.43 | Nimble | how |
| 12:31.47 | Nimble | tell before I try again lol |
| 12:31.47 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r37406 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 12:31.47 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 12:31.47 | CIA-22 | - disable module options instead of hiding them |
| 12:31.55 | Saroz | get Transcriptor from wowace |
| 12:31.56 | Tornhoof | ah ok, then it's just some stub for dalliah in there |
| 12:32.00 | Saroz | and activate it as you engage |
| 12:32.18 | Nimble | ok getting it |
| 12:32.21 | Saroz | nice |
| 12:32.36 | Tornhoof | but you're right nimble, it is no melee fight |
| 12:32.36 | Saroz | didnt notice a wirlwind in 2.0 |
| 12:32.53 | Nimble | Tornhoof: we have 2 melee and I don't think we can do this T_T |
| 12:33.01 | Tornhoof | we did with two melee |
| 12:33.07 | Tornhoof | took us long though |
| 12:33.17 | Saroz | it's only there on heroic? |
| 12:33.23 | Tornhoof | no in normal too |
| 12:33.25 | Mikk | no, she always whirls |
| 12:33.26 | Saroz | k |
| 12:33.32 | Tornhoof | she does whirlwind and that selfheal |
| 12:33.33 | Mikk | it just hurts more in heroic =P |
| 12:33.36 | Nimble | well if I can manage to get out before 2 ticks |
| 12:33.37 | Nimble | we can do it |
| 12:33.38 | Saroz | havnt noticed, will add it next time Im there |
| 12:33.41 | Tornhoof | right after the ww ends |
| 12:34.15 | Saroz | have rogue go afk :p |
| 12:34.20 | Nimble | seriously though the first boss was messed up too |
| 12:34.23 | Nimble | I don't like this place |
| 12:34.27 | Saroz | I skipped first boss |
| 12:34.28 | Saroz | he's a fucker |
| 12:34.30 | Tornhoof | i back out after that shadow attack and the gift of life stuff |
| 12:34.35 | Tornhoof | nerfed in 2.1 |
| 12:34.39 | Saroz | still a fucker |
| 12:34.46 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 12:34.52 | Nimble | yeah I think I'll just back out |
| 12:34.56 | Nimble | not worth it for that extra dps |
| 12:35.00 | Saroz | :p |
| 12:35.10 | Saroz | just get transcriptor log and I'll add a warning |
| 12:35.16 | Nimble | I love the "DELLIAH IS WHIRLWINDING" in littlewigs |
| 12:35.18 | Nimble | so pointless lol |
| 12:35.30 | Saroz | is it timed? |
| 12:35.39 | Tornhoof | it's emote based i think |
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| 12:35.55 | Mikk | "woo hoo" |
| 12:35.55 | Saroz | but is it timed? |
| 12:35.59 | Tornhoof | no timer |
| 12:36.05 | Mikk | there'll prolly be a cooldown time |
| 12:36.05 | Saroz | like every x second |
| 12:36.09 | Mikk | but it's not fixed afaik |
| 12:36.11 | Saroz | zzzz |
| 12:36.16 | Saroz | not much to do then |
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| 12:36.22 | Tornhoof | i think it is on some 15s timer |
| 12:36.28 | Saroz | transcriptor gogo |
| 12:36.39 | Tornhoof | or rather 15s cooldown |
| 12:37.19 | Mikk | Saroz: http://mikk.cjb.net/gfx/bigwigs/wiggy.png feel free to use, the bigwigs d00ds didn't want to =P |
| 12:37.28 | Saroz | obviously |
| 12:37.44 | Mikk | =( |
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| 12:39.59 | Nimble | WOOOOOOOO |
| 12:40.02 | Nimble | did it |
| 12:40.13 | ckknight | Punkie`: sct doesn't use ParserLib to check for Honorable kills, so I don't know |
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| 12:40.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@87-196-112-230.net.novis.pt] by ckknight |
| 12:40.48 | *** kick/#wowace [[0x90]!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 12:40.51 | Nimble | actually now that I understand the fight more, that was really fun as a rogue |
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| 12:41.12 | Saroz | gg me |
| 12:41.14 | Saroz | 14:40:03 | -[0x90]:#wowace- You have 1 new message. Type /server mail to read. |
| 12:41.16 | Saroz | fell for that :( |
| 12:41.23 | ckknight | don't do that. |
| 12:41.26 | Saroz | no shit |
| 12:41.31 | ckknight | what does it do, anyway? |
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| 12:41.35 | NimbleRabit | hmm |
| 12:41.37 | Saroz | connect to an irc server called mail |
| 12:41.38 | ckknight | oh, change the server |
| 12:41.38 | ckknight | lol |
| 12:41.41 | Saroz | yea |
| 12:41.42 | NimbleRabit | I got dc/d when I tried to check the mail |
| 12:41.43 | ckknight | fail |
| 12:41.51 | Saroz | the others fell for it too!!! |
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| 12:41.56 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 12:41.58 | Saroz | see |
| 12:41.58 | Saroz | haha |
| 12:42.09 | ckknight | hehe, yea |
| 12:42.25 | Saroz | Recount is uber mod *bow* Cryect |
| 12:42.45 | *** join/#wowace Iceroth (n=tatexi@a81-197-108-153.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 12:43.12 | NimbleRabit | so what do I do with this transcript |
| 12:43.31 | Saroz | post it on littlewigs forums |
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| 12:44.52 | Fisker- | what purpose did the guy had? |
| 12:44.59 | Fisker- | mail isn't valid so it would just disconnect us? |
| 12:44.59 | Iceroth | so like.. i got this msg "you have mail, type /server mail to read it".. what is that -.- |
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| 12:45.21 | Saroz | DO IT! |
| 12:45.26 | Iceroth | i was nobo enought to do it |
| 12:45.29 | Saroz | same |
| 12:45.35 | nevcairiel | same |
| 12:45.35 | NimbleRabit | Saroz: if I try a boss and wipe do I stop, then start when we try again? |
| 12:45.36 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:45.53 | Saroz | yes |
| 12:45.53 | f0zle | Any mod out that shows a graphical representation of DPS on a boss (a graph with DPS throughout the fight) and something that would show the whole history for each raidmember (so you can analyze spell-rotation) ? And maybe some kind of HTML exporter for SWStats ? |
| 12:45.55 | Saroz | f0zle, recount |
| 12:46.01 | Saroz | I guess |
| 12:46.16 | ckknight | alright, sleeptime |
| 12:46.24 | abyssichate | yeah, recount can do that |
| 12:46.55 | abyssichate | and you might want to check this too, f0zle: http://www.lossendil.fr/serendipity/ |
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| 12:47.14 | NimbleRabit | Saroz: so would it be good to just transcript any bosses I fight? |
| 12:47.28 | Saroz | NimbleRabit, hrm, only if they lack stuff in bigwigs or littlewigs |
| 12:47.35 | NimbleRabit | allright |
| 12:47.38 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: suggestion for ClosetGnome, if the exact item is not found, check for other items with the same id ( ignore enchants/sockets ) and use that one. |
| 12:48.03 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I've thought about that, shouldn't be hard indeed |
| 12:48.04 | NimbleRabit | this wraith dude doesn't even have a plugin so I guess I'll transcript him |
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| 12:48.36 | Punkie` | ckknight: oki :) |
| 12:48.46 | Punkie` | ckknight: otherwise, You have no errors, yay! |
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| 12:49.34 | f0zle | aye Wowwebstats is nice but would like something a bit more automated than that |
| 12:49.58 | Saroz | well NimbleRabit, some bosses dont need a plugin :p |
| 12:50.07 | Seyken | Hello all :p |
| 12:50.36 | f0zle | in closetgnome, is it anyway to update sets? Right now everytime i want to change an item in a set i delete set and recreate >_< |
| 12:50.50 | abyssichate | yes |
| 12:50.58 | abyssichate | just name the new set as the one you want to update |
| 12:50.59 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r37407 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:50.59 | CIA-22 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 12:51.00 | CIA-22 | - Price updates |
| 12:51.05 | NimbleRabit | Saroz: well it would be nice if this one did |
| 12:51.13 | Saroz | meh |
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| 12:51.16 | Saroz | flame shit |
| 12:52.19 | NimbleRabit | it's sometimes hard to notice when he does knockback and I don't enjoy having to read chat to see "On guard" |
| 12:52.23 | NimbleRabit | to know I need to start running |
| 12:52.44 | f0zle | can you create a macro that will use highest rank managem and after that itll use the next rank and so forth? |
| 12:52.54 | f0zle | and preferably have the button show which managem it will use |
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| 12:52.58 | f0zle | oir any mod that does it? |
| 12:53.29 | Matrix110 | use /Castsequence |
| 12:53.36 | Matrix110 | and #showtooltip |
| 12:53.47 | Josh_Borke | Matrix110: except it'll fail if anyo f the gems are missing in the sequence |
| 12:53.57 | Matrix110 | thats correct:P |
| 12:54.46 | f0zle | aye it needs to be able to handle that |
| 12:54.46 | f0zle | eg if citrin is missing |
| 12:54.46 | Fisker- | i killed a mage!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:54.46 | Matrix110 | i use Autobar for that |
| 12:54.46 | Matrix110 | but its kinda bugged.... |
| 12:54.46 | f0zle | i need it to kind of cycle, emerald > ruby > citrine |
| 12:54.46 | f0zle | after whats in my inventor |
| 12:54.46 | f0zle | *inventory |
| 12:54.51 | Saroz | make violation work!!! *bangs head on table* |
| 12:54.55 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37408 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Parser-agnostic, take 1. |
| 12:55.01 | vhaarr | Saroz: fuck you, try it now |
| 12:55.05 | Saroz | thanks bitch |
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| 12:56.18 | Saroz | SYNTAX ERROR! :p |
| 12:56.24 | Saroz | 394 |
| 12:56.32 | vhaarr | hm, error |
| 12:56.33 | Saroz | ] expected near then |
| 12:57.09 | Matrix110 | bla AceEvent hates me-. |
| 12:57.23 | CIA-22 | 03kodewulf * r37409 10Cartographer_Trainers/Cartographer_Trainers.toc: |
| 12:57.23 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 12:57.23 | CIA-22 | * TOC |
| 12:57.23 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.47 | Wobin | f0zle: In closetgnome, just shiftclick the set you want to edit |
| 12:57.56 | CIA-22 | 03kodewulf * r37410 10Cartographer_Vendors/Cartographer_Vendors.toc: |
| 12:57.56 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 12:57.56 | CIA-22 | * TOC |
| 12:57.56 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:00.17 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37411 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Syntax error. |
| 13:04.32 | Dynom | hmm, pricetag is broken |
| 13:04.44 | f0zle | I'm going crazy today trying to build up my bars |
| 13:04.54 | f0zle | I can't get an acceptable symmetry that doesnt make me feel claustrophobic |
| 13:05.29 | krka | you know... bars are supposed to make you feel claustrophobic |
| 13:05.31 | krka | that's what prisons are made for |
| 13:06.18 | Fisker- | http://youtube.com/watch?v=aCxDZRJKkqY |
| 13:06.20 | Fisker- | i fukken lol'd |
| 13:06.55 | f0zle | aye =) |
| 13:07.01 | f0zle | it's quite a fun program |
| 13:07.44 | f0zle | That guy is famed for using minorities in his programs as central humoristics pieces |
| 13:07.58 | f0zle | he also had a comedy with immigrants |
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| 13:09.54 | Josh_Borke | Saroz: do you have a screenshot of Recount? |
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| 13:13.10 | Saroz | ye sec |
| 13:15.04 | Saroz | http://random-guild.com/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_052807_151243.jpg |
| 13:15.35 | Wobin | ooh |
| 13:15.37 | Wobin | shiny |
| 13:15.41 | Josh_Borke | so it's like a damage meters addon? |
| 13:15.41 | Saroz | very |
| 13:15.48 | Saroz | well, with a lot of details |
| 13:15.53 | Saroz | gonna yell at some mages tonight |
| 13:15.55 | Saroz | thats for sure |
| 13:15.57 | f0zle | does recount sync with other people? |
| 13:15.59 | Josh_Borke | cool |
| 13:16.01 | Saroz | now that I can see what they use do to damage |
| 13:16.07 | Saroz | doubt it f0zle |
| 13:16.17 | f0zle | then it won't really be accurate will it now? |
| 13:16.22 | Saroz | sure it will |
| 13:16.26 | Josh_Borke | saroz is pretty low on that list :-P |
| 13:16.28 | Saroz | turn up combatlog range |
| 13:16.29 | Wobin | what are they using? =) |
| 13:16.31 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37412 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Tweak. |
| 13:16.49 | Saroz | Wobin, what spells etc |
| 13:16.59 | Wobin | yeah, what spells are they using? |
| 13:17.04 | vodrin | arcane missiles! |
| 13:17.09 | Saroz | fur sure! |
| 13:17.19 | f0zle | will recount show Counterspell usage? |
| 13:17.20 | Josh_Borke | all of the crappy mages i know are just lazy when it comes to hitting the attack button |
| 13:17.21 | f0zle | and other non dmg spells |
| 13:17.21 | Chompers | its arena/being owned time! |
| 13:17.23 | Chompers | horay |
| 13:17.38 | f0zle | a good mage uses quartz and /stopcasting macros |
| 13:17.58 | Josh_Borke | f0zle: a good mage hits the FB button every time the cooldown is up |
| 13:18.05 | f0zle | how do you turn up combatlog range Saroz ? |
| 13:18.08 | f0zle | Fireblast? |
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| 13:18.21 | vodrin | Josh_Borke, a good mage hits the fb button just before the cooldown is up |
| 13:18.31 | Saroz | f0zle, cvars |
| 13:18.32 | vodrin | with a bit of stopcasting =p |
| 13:18.50 | abbat_w | =) |
| 13:18.54 | Josh_Borke | vodrin: indeed. but i'll settle for cooldown myself |
| 13:18.57 | abbat_w | good mage just spam fb button ;) |
| 13:19.16 | f0zle | you cant spam fireball |
| 13:19.19 | f0zle | if you use stopcasting |
| 13:19.23 | Seyken | a good mage is a mage dead |
| 13:19.45 | Seyken | that's all |
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| 13:20.00 | Wobin | sure you can spam fireball if you use stopcasting |
| 13:20.12 | Wobin | that's the only way I can do effectively fast casting |
| 13:20.26 | abbat_w | don't use this. don't like |
| 13:20.38 | Wobin | with a ping of 400+ I -have- to use stopcasting =P |
| 13:20.41 | vodrin | spam fireball one must |
| 13:20.58 | abbat_w | oh, 400 ping ;( |
| 13:22.18 | Josh_Borke | Wobin: get off our servers :-P problem solved |
| 13:23.06 | Wobin | I will if they ever introduce Oceania servers that are... like... -in- Oceania =P |
| 13:23.10 | Wobin | And not the midwest =P |
| 13:23.31 | CAL|Smeltn` | how do you bring up the recount window? |
| 13:23.41 | CAL|Smeltn` | jus use /recount? |
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| 13:25.06 | Saroz | recount show |
| 13:26.11 | CAL|Smeltn` | now on the damage meters |
| 13:26.24 | CAL|Smeltn` | does it sync with others? |
| 13:27.19 | CAL|Smeltn` | cause my biggest thing is sometimes with swstats, if you dont have it set to sync, some people have differnt numbers |
| 13:28.21 | f0zle | ehm, weird question/bug, my Bartender3 hotkeys are not under Menu|Hotkeys |
| 13:28.21 | f0zle | wtf |
| 13:28.27 | Josh_Borke | CAL|Smeltn`: probably doesn't sync |
| 13:29.05 | dodgizzla | ckknight: I'm using Cryect's version of Recap and I removed ParserLib (in the hope that all my addons use Parser-3.0's compat layer) and now I got a message from Recap that reads "Unhandled Type for Feed Pet Effect of type Unknown" |
| 13:30.10 | Mikk | purl, botmail for Nargiddley: heya, check out http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Baggins2_wishlist =) |
| 13:31.43 | f0zle | So how do i fix it so i can set hotkeys in bartender3 via Menu|hotkeys? For some reason bartender is not there |
| 13:33.29 | dotted | I'm using Cryect's version of Recap <- lol wut? |
| 13:33.39 | dotted | Recount*?? |
| 13:35.18 | dodgizzla | No, Recap :> |
| 13:36.11 | Mikk | Erm. How's Cryect and Recap connected? |
| 13:37.47 | dodgizzla | Mikk: Author: Gello (modified by Rophy, Zoia, Cryect) |
| 13:38.05 | dodgizzla | He posted it on EJ forums, so I figure he maintains it |
| 13:38.16 | Cide | Iceroth: ping? |
| 13:38.17 | f0zle | Guys how do i get the bartender3 bars to show in Hotkeys menu? Only bartender3 bar1 is showing there, kinda fucked |
| 13:38.21 | Iceroth | Cide, moo |
| 13:39.30 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r37413 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: frFR fix |
| 13:39.30 | Cide | ElkBuffBars vs ElkBuffBar: the non-ace2 version uses 8 times more memory and around 5.7 times more cpu |
| 13:39.30 | Cide | err |
| 13:39.35 | Cide | sorry, I reversed that |
| 13:39.45 | Cide | the ace2 version uses 8 times more memory and around 5.7 times more cpu |
| 13:39.58 | Iceroth | that's quite O.o |
| 13:40.03 | Tornhoof | so compared to the 10x,15x of ctbuffs? |
| 13:40.04 | Cide | indeed |
| 13:40.23 | Saroz | it has a ton more features though |
| 13:40.27 | Cide | Saroz: such as? |
| 13:40.29 | Tornhoof | we can assume that coding style is still a large factor |
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| 13:40.37 | Cide | Tornhoof: how so? |
| 13:40.49 | Cide | are you saying the author's coding style has become worse? |
| 13:40.54 | Tornhoof | no |
| 13:41.03 | Tornhoof | just that yours is better than elkanos |
| 13:41.19 | Tornhoof | if your ctbuffs is more efficient than the non ace version |
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| 13:41.33 | Tornhoof | while doing basically the same |
| 13:41.48 | Cide | that doesn't explain why the ace2 version uses 8 times more memory and around 5.7 times more cpu time than the non-ace version of the same mod, with the same author |
| 13:41.59 | Tornhoof | no it does not |
| 13:42.03 | Cide | yes, yes it does |
| 13:42.04 | Saroz | well, if thats the only ace mom you are running, it would use more memory |
| 13:42.22 | Cide | Saroz: it's not, I'm running this with a full compilation of ace2 mods |
| 13:42.25 | Iceroth | memory i can understand but the cpu load is weird |
| 13:42.36 | Tornhoof | cpu load is strange indeed |
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| 13:42.47 | vhaarr | there should be no CPU difference, the author must've made some bad choices |
| 13:43.14 | Cide | Tornhoof: CT_BuffMod uses 1.3 times more memory, but ElkBuffBar uses 12 times more cpu time (ct version vs non-ace version, I already gave you the numbers for ct vs ace2) |
| 13:43.28 | Tornhoof | yes |
| 13:43.31 | Tornhoof | these 12 times |
| 13:43.39 | Tornhoof | are probably coding style related |
| 13:43.52 | nevcairiel | that would be a real bad style then^^ |
| 13:43.58 | Tornhoof | looks like |
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| 13:44.08 | Tornhoof | both mods are doing the same stuff basically |
| 13:44.10 | Cide | that doesn't explain the almost 6x for ace2 vs non-ace |
| 13:44.21 | Tornhoof | yah |
| 13:44.24 | Tornhoof | no idea there |
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| 13:44.35 | vhaarr | Cide: if you run with disembedded libs, you'll be able to tell how much of that usage is attributed to the mod itself and the ace2 libs. |
| 13:44.36 | Loki|muh | Elkano is a b00n :) |
| 13:44.37 | Tornhoof | only that his previously bad choices are actually worse with ace |
| 13:44.40 | Loki|muh | *hide* |
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| 13:44.47 | Cide | must be the coder itself surely |
| 13:44.57 | Tornhoof | probably ace2 somewhere too |
| 13:45.01 | nevcairiel | i assume you dont measure initial loading time, but cpu time during play |
| 13:45.04 | Tornhoof | but the difference is too large imho |
| 13:45.08 | Cide | nevcairiel: yes, cpu during play |
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| 13:45.57 | Tornhoof | no go do an ace2 version of ctbuffs cide :D |
| 13:45.59 | Cide | vhaarr: what's the best way to go about doing that? |
| 13:46.00 | Tornhoof | now go even |
| 13:46.06 | Cide | Tornhoof: been toying with the thought |
| 13:46.15 | Tornhoof | would atleast tell a real difference |
| 13:46.26 | Cide | I imagine I would see increases in cpu and memory time however |
| 13:46.27 | vhaarr | Cide: basically download all the libraries as standalone addons from files.wowace.com, and delete all the libs in addon\libs |
| 13:46.30 | Cide | but it remains to be seen |
| 13:46.32 | Tornhoof | since we already know that elkano apparently made a few bad decisions |
| 13:46.39 | Tornhoof | yes cide i guess so |
| 13:46.45 | Tornhoof | the factor would be interesting |
| 13:46.46 | vhaarr | Cide: looking at the ebbs code, it doesn't really impress me. |
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| 13:46.48 | f0zle | sorry for asking again and again, but how come I cant setup more than bar1 from bartender3 in hotkeys setup? Sorta going to raid very soon, and hafl my buttons arent bound :( |
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| 13:47.06 | pb_ee1 | f0zle: got the same problem |
| 13:47.12 | pb_ee1 | Seems it only works on bar1 |
| 13:47.24 | Athou | f0zle: scroll down some more |
| 13:47.34 | Cide | vhaarr: /shrug - that's why I asked for well written addons to compare with ;) |
| 13:47.41 | vhaarr | Cide: I gave you some. |
| 13:47.45 | Tornhoof | a for now, we just know that ctbuffs is superior for profiling and elkano apparently made a few bad decisions |
| 13:47.46 | vhaarr | and I didn't mention EBB. |
| 13:48.03 | Cide | true, the only reason I mentioned EBB now was because Iceroth wanted a comparison between ace2-EBB and non-ace2-EBB |
| 13:48.04 | Tornhoof | i did when cide tested the ace2 ebb version |
| 13:48.10 | f0zle | no, it's not there |
| 13:48.14 | f0zle | no matter how much i scroll |
| 13:48.21 | Cide | or it might've been Tornhoof, yeah |
| 13:48.56 | Cide | vhaarr: could you repeat some of them? x-chat apparently has a maximum number of lines in the window and doesn't log, so... |
| 13:49.17 | Cide | I'm looking into BigWigs and Deadly Boss Mods right now |
| 13:49.24 | Cide | and PerfectRaid/Grid |
| 13:49.34 | vhaarr | that's a good place to start, and I would be interested in those results. |
| 13:49.40 | cladhaire | i think praid chews CPU right now |
| 13:49.42 | cladhaire | but less than grid |
| 13:49.42 | cladhaire | heh |
| 13:49.47 | cladhaire | i do some silly things |
| 13:49.52 | Tornhoof | bigwigs is a sitting duck i guess |
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| 13:50.45 | cladhaire | but if you turn off aggro/cpu checking, its fine |
| 13:50.52 | cladhaire | or throttle it down |
| 13:51.36 | [A]v[P] | anyone knows why i am getting this error with cartographer |
| 13:51.40 | [A]v[P] | Cartographer-r36526\Cartographer.lua:10: Cannot find a library instance of Crayon-2.0.Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:470: in function `AceLibrary'Cartographer-r36526\Cartographer.lua:10: in main chunk |
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| 13:51.55 | nevcairiel | you need crayon. |
| 13:51.58 | Tornhoof | go install crayon-2.0 |
| 13:52.21 | [A]v[P] | is that something added lately because i never had problems before :) |
| 13:53.12 | pb_ee1 | No idea |
| 13:53.20 | f0zle | Athou if i scroll down it's not there, Threatmeter, swstats, prat and everything else is, no bartender3 bar2 and upwards |
| 13:53.45 | dotted | [A]v[P] just update cartographer |
| 13:53.52 | dotted | its included there |
| 13:53.55 | pb_ee1 | f0zle: I think it's a small bug, you should just wait for a fix :p |
| 13:53.59 | nevcairiel | f0zle: which revision do you use? |
| 13:54.15 | pb_ee1 | @ nevcairiel: I use the latest one and i've got the same problem |
| 13:54.16 | Fisker- | anyone know why automation's autostand stuff doesn't work anymore btw? |
| 13:54.24 | nevcairiel | well i dont have the problem :P |
| 13:54.29 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 13:54.37 | pb_ee1 | actually i installed the mod today |
| 13:54.50 | pb_ee1 | and hotkeys were appearing only on bar1 |
| 13:54.51 | f0zle | 3.0.24682 |
| 13:54.53 | nevcairiel | from files page? |
| 13:54.57 | nevcairiel | f0zle: update. |
| 13:55.08 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: with WinAceUpdater yeah |
| 13:55.10 | Punkie` | ckknight: I don't know if it's any relivance but: Roster-2.1-33934 (RosterLib):412: Usage: UnitName("unit") |
| 13:55.49 | nevcairiel | pb_ee1: well i dunno, it was broken last week, but i fixed it, and its been working for me since then :o |
| 13:56.00 | [A]v[P] | dotted: i did still getting this error but i installed crayon now |
| 13:56.01 | pb_ee1 | :o |
| 13:56.11 | dotted | weird |
| 13:56.16 | pb_ee1 | Well i'll try again when i'll be at home ;-) |
| 13:56.47 | pb_ee1 | Got a question btw: is there a simple way to know when a player _leaves_ a party? (not a raid) |
| 13:56.53 | pb_ee1 | (...) with RosterLib |
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| 13:59.39 | Wixi | hmm my player pet module won't load up in Pitbull |
| 14:01.18 | pb_ee1 | Nobody knows? :P |
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| 14:03.14 | Lorthien | Anyone having trouble with ag_Unitframe not displaying the target when in |
| 14:03.17 | Lorthien | Combat? |
| 14:03.48 | Mikk | pb_ee1: PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED event. But you need to keep track if someone joined or left yourself. |
| 14:05.29 | pb_ee1 | D'oh, then using Roster-2.1 is 1/2 useful... :'( |
| 14:06.02 | pb_ee1 | That's too bad, you can easily know with RosterLib when you leave a raid, but not when you leave a party |
| 14:06.17 | Cide | fyi, the EBB numbers for ace2-EBB were without any libraries at all |
| 14:06.24 | harldephin | any chance Fence might remember auction house prices again sometime soon ? |
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| 14:07.03 | Tornhoof | so ebb-s actually is worse than ebb even without ace2? |
| 14:07.13 | Mikk | pb_ee1: If you're only statting yourself, it's pretty easy to test if http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetNumPartyMembers returns 0 on PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED |
| 14:07.27 | Mikk | Tho you might get a false positive or two |
| 14:07.33 | Cide | and as for Grid/PerfectRaid, Grid uses ~2.7 times more memory and ~1.1 times more cpu time |
| 14:07.34 | Mikk | Unless you keep track of what the party size was earlier |
| 14:07.41 | Josh_Borke | UnitExists('party1') :-D |
| 14:07.43 | pb_ee1 | Because when RosterLib_RosterUpdated triggers, UnitIsParty("player") always returns true; |
| 14:07.56 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: same problem thio |
| 14:08.02 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: aha, tried with UnitIsInParty() but not with GetNumPartyMembers() |
| 14:08.10 | Tornhoof | i guess memory usage is fine then cide, dunno about memory, might be related to grids display style |
| 14:08.11 | Mikk | UnitIsParty("player") is _ALWAYS_ true. period. |
| 14:08.14 | Mikk | you're always in your own party |
| 14:08.19 | Mikk | even when you're not in a party at all |
| 14:08.24 | pb_ee1 | No Mikk |
| 14:08.28 | Tornhoof | eh cpu usage even |
| 14:08.29 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: UnitExists('party1')? |
| 14:08.30 | pb_ee1 | it returns nil when you're not in a party |
| 14:08.46 | pb_ee1 | but RosterLib_RosterUpdated triggers BEFORE you actually leave the party |
| 14:08.57 | pb_ee1 | so when it triggers, UnitIsInParty() returns true |
| 14:08.58 | Cide | Tornhoof: display style? |
| 14:08.58 | Josh_Borke | don't use RosterLib? |
| 14:09.13 | pb_ee1 | Josh_Borke: yeah I think that's what I'm going to do, but it's too bad |
| 14:09.15 | Cide | 2.7x is, you know, a fair bit |
| 14:09.17 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitInParty ("player") will always return true |
| 14:09.22 | Mikk | UnitExists("party1") is another story =) |
| 14:09.32 | Josh_Borke | pb_ee1: yea, but it's not really that complicated |
| 14:09.41 | Tornhoof | well i dunno how much perfectraid uses, if it is like 100kb, 270kb aien't either |
| 14:09.51 | Tornhoof | if it is 10mb , 27mb might be a bit bloated |
| 14:09.55 | Mikk | _BUT_ UnitExists("party1") is a bad idea, because it'll be false if you're in a raid and the only one in your subgroup |
| 14:10.11 | pb_ee1 | Josh_Borke: not what i meant. my addon should use a lot of libs, but each time there's something missing and thus I have to code everything myself |
| 14:10.15 | Cide | and this does not include the memory of the 22 libraries Grid uses |
| 14:10.20 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: sigh, inGroup = UnitExists('party1') or UnitExists('raid1') :-P |
| 14:10.25 | pb_ee1 | it's a bit stupid when libs do nearly the same things at the same time |
| 14:10.44 | Cide | 730kb vs 270kb, Tornhoof |
| 14:10.46 | Josh_Borke | pb_ee1: but when you have to start hacking AROUND a lib, it should be time to consider something else |
| 14:11.02 | cladhaire | Cide: does that include Dongle.lua? |
| 14:11.15 | Cide | cladhaire: it's the only dongle mod, so yes |
| 14:11.18 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: I tried at 2.0.10 and UnitInParty was returning nil sometimes |
| 14:11.29 | cladhaire | you can move that out into its own mod |
| 14:11.33 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: nearly 100% sure about this |
| 14:11.35 | cladhaire | that'll drop praid by 80kb |
| 14:11.45 | Mikk | 2.0.10? |
| 14:11.46 | cladhaire | to get a fair comparison =) |
| 14:11.56 | Josh_Borke | pb_ee1: the inGroup should always work |
| 14:11.56 | Hjalte | I see Violation_CombatLogRange in the svn, but i didnt think increasing the range of the combat log worked anymore? |
| 14:11.59 | Tornhoof | well i dunno what grid does with its memory, maybe not properly reusing some tables or keeping too much information in memory |
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| 14:12.30 | Tornhoof | while it is certainly bad, it is imho not as bad as having a way higher cpu usage |
| 14:12.31 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: Or just GetNumPartyMembers() + GetNumRaidMembers() < 1 |
| 14:12.34 | pb_ee1 | Josh_Borke: you mean it should always return 1? |
| 14:12.48 | Mikk | And i'm fairly certain it's a hell of alot more efficient than statting for a particular member |
| 14:12.52 | Cide | Tornhoof: well, it seems like all addons appear to do something extremely "bad"... |
| 14:12.53 | vodrin | sigh, #132 errors |
| 14:12.57 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: you think? |
| 14:13.00 | Cide | Tornhoof: which is why I asked for addons that don't show this type of behavior |
| 14:13.13 | Tornhoof | i can't say |
| 14:13.25 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: All my programming experience would tell me so, yes. I sincerely doubt the Num* APIs start looping tables n stuff |
| 14:13.26 | Tornhoof | since i don't have any comparable information |
| 14:13.54 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: why would the UnitExists be any more complex? (i'm noob so please help me :-D) |
| 14:14.09 | Mikk | Since in C, you nearly always keep a count of your table size somewhere. So GetNumPartyMembers() would just return that integer. |
| 14:14.18 | Cide | with PerfectRaid as the only Dongle addon, and Grid as the only Ace2 addon, Grid uses 5 times as much memory as PerfectRaid, libraries included |
| 14:14.20 | Mikk | While UnitExists() would have to go searching in the actual list. |
| 14:14.44 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: but wouldn't they just be indexes into integer arrays? |
| 14:14.51 | pb_ee1 | Hummm that's just an assumption :p |
| 14:14.51 | Cide | this is a difference of 1075kb, or 1345kb vs 270kb |
| 14:15.12 | Mikk | How can "party1" be an integer index? |
| 14:15.30 | Josh_Borke | pull array from the string part at the beginning and index by the number part at the end |
| 14:15.33 | Mikk | They could POSSIBLE take the Lua string and tear it out as a C string, then deconstruct it to take out the "1" and turn that into an integer |
| 14:15.44 | cladhaire | but thats three function calls |
| 14:15.45 | Mikk | But .. erm |
| 14:15.48 | Josh_Borke | true |
| 14:15.50 | cladhaire | rather than a return of a table size |
| 14:15.56 | cladhaire | GetNumPartymembers() is just a simple retun |
| 14:15.58 | cladhaire | return |
| 14:16.00 | cladhaire | of a c value |
| 14:16.02 | Mikk | Go code some C josh =P |
| 14:16.05 | Josh_Borke | you stay out of the claddy waddy |
| 14:16.11 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: i get to in the fall! i'm so excited! |
| 14:16.14 | Josh_Borke | <3 C |
| 14:16.17 | Cide | assuming PerfectRaid uses 190kb instead of 270kb without dongle, Grid uses 3.8 times more memory than PR does, excluding libraries.. quite a big difference |
| 14:16.19 | Wobin | SomethingToPlayWith(), SomethingExciting() and SomeChocolate() |
| 14:16.19 | Josh_Borke | hate @ valgrind |
| 14:16.32 | pb_ee1 | Well thanks, at least i've got another starting point to code what i want :p |
| 14:16.38 | Josh_Borke | memory management is the suck though |
| 14:16.55 | Tornhoof | yes cide that's true |
| 14:16.56 | pb_ee1 | I suppose ChatLog is really bad coded but hey, nobody codes it except me ^_^ |
| 14:17.05 | harldephin | hehe |
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| 14:17.29 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: Aye, mem management in C is less than straight-forward. But you can't get more efficient than you can with a well-thought-out C implementation |
| 14:17.39 | Cide | oh dear |
| 14:17.44 | vodrin | erm, anyone having problems with SharedMedia |
| 14:17.52 | Cide | Grid uses 12.7 times more cpu time than PR |
| 14:17.55 | vodrin | getting error #132 when i have it installed |
| 14:17.58 | cladhaire | lol |
| 14:18.00 | pb_ee1 | PR? |
| 14:18.02 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: yea, i think my final project for my C class was a memory management system |
| 14:18.05 | Cide | PerfectRaid |
| 14:18.18 | pb_ee1 | Sorry, I guessed after pressing Enter :p |
| 14:18.29 | Mikk | It's hardly surprising that PR is low on cpu usage. It was a design criteria. |
| 14:18.32 | Stephmw | Cide: not performance-related, but I found Grid just too 'busy' visually for me to make sense of the info |
| 14:18.50 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: that was painful yet fun at the same time |
| 14:18.58 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37415 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-1.0: - Druid Module: And.. uncommented the class check line I used to load the druid module on my warlock. |
| 14:19.00 | Cide | Stephmw: I imagine some might feel that way, yeah |
| 14:19.07 | cladhaire | Cide: I suppose you could be fair, and use /praid to make sure all options screens are created. Since they're getting hit with DewDrop/Tablet or some shitlke that |
| 14:19.20 | pb_ee1 | Cide: i think Grid is still one of the best raid addon for healers :p |
| 14:19.24 | Wobin | Although I do like how I can make a box highlight if they have Prayer of Mending on them |
| 14:19.34 | cladhaire | Wobin: praid does that too |
| 14:19.44 | Mikk | Of course, most memory management classes assume that you want something more akin to a garbage collector or some other automatic memory manager, which completely misses the point as to why you're coding in C in the first place. |
| 14:19.47 | Wobin | I'm a clumsy clicker though =) |
| 14:19.50 | Cide | pb_ee1: that's irrelevant when it comes to measuring the general performance of ace2 addons vs other addons |
| 14:19.53 | Wobin | I need the boxes =) |
| 14:20.09 | pb_ee1 | True |
| 14:20.16 | Mikk | I don't think comparing praid to grid is a fair comparison to begin with |
| 14:20.32 | cladhaire | Mikk: Cide has been asking and asking for mods to compare |
| 14:20.39 | Cide | cladhaire: from 270 (190) kb to 300 (210 kb) |
| 14:20.42 | pb_ee1 | But Grid is not the most CPU & memory consuming raid addon, is it? |
| 14:20.46 | cladhaire | then everytime he does one that someoen suggests or asks for, he someone says that |
| 14:20.49 | Mikk | Turn praid into Ace2 and compare again |
| 14:20.59 | vhaarr | I'd rather compare sRaidFrames and PR. |
| 14:21.02 | cladhaire | uhh |
| 14:21.13 | Mikk | Hardly difficult =P |
| 14:21.22 | Cide | pb_ee1: /shrugs |
| 14:21.23 | cladhaire | i did it once |
| 14:21.27 | cladhaire | moving Clique from Ace2 to Dongle |
| 14:21.28 | Cide | s/gs/s/ |
| 14:21.31 | Cide | I fail |
| 14:21.32 | Mikk | cladhaire: hehe aye i know ;) |
| 14:21.36 | cladhaire | I won't talk about how big of a difference there way |
| 14:21.45 | cladhaire | I'll stab myself if there is an Ace2 perfectraid floating around |
| 14:21.47 | Josh_Borke | man, people just can't type today |
| 14:21.49 | f0zle | thanks whoever said it |
| 14:21.52 | f0zle | updating bartender3 fixed my problem |
| 14:22.07 | Josh_Borke | Cide: there you go, compare sRaidFrames instead of Grid |
| 14:22.18 | Cide | will do in a sec |
| 14:22.21 | Saroz | -.- |
| 14:22.29 | Saroz | not a good time to compare |
| 14:22.29 | Josh_Borke | nothing like putting Saroz on the spot :-P |
| 14:22.41 | Mikk | Anyway, the whole idea is flawed imo. It goes along the lines of people thinking that the can take a piss-poor pile of shit addon and Ace2 it and suddenly it'll stop leaking memory and turn bright spangling beautiful |
| 14:22.46 | Mikk | Which is ridiculous |
| 14:22.48 | Cide | since someone asked in #dongle, grid uses ~1.25 times more memory than CTRA, and ~3.3 times the cpu time |
| 14:22.52 | Stephmw | Josh_Borke: nobody can ever type |
| 14:23.06 | vhaarr | Mikk: Noone thinks that except people who don't have a clue. |
| 14:23.08 | Stephmw | Josh_Borke: hence all the bugs |
| 14:23.17 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: ie, all the users |
| 14:23.24 | Wobin | Mikk: The problem is the clueless user perspective |
| 14:23.28 | Cide | vhaarr: sadly, those are the people that it matters to in many cases |
| 14:23.34 | Mikk | vhaarr: Aye, and I'm suggesting that comparing CPU usage between grid and perfectraid is similarly ridiculous if what you want is Ace2 vs something else |
| 14:23.40 | vhaarr | Mikk: I agree. |
| 14:23.55 | Cide | how so, if I may ask? |
| 14:23.57 | cladhaire | not entirely |
| 14:23.58 | vhaarr | Cide: I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, but your results don't really show anytihng. |
| 14:23.59 | cladhaire | since sraidframes is based entirely off praid code. |
| 14:24.00 | vhaarr | thing* |
| 14:24.01 | Mikk | If you want to compare praid to grid and nothing else, it's obviously on-topic |
| 14:24.11 | Cide | vhaarr: maybe, maybe not. |
| 14:24.34 | pb_ee1 | Comparing Grid & CT_RaidAssist maybe? :P |
| 14:24.36 | Josh_Borke | i don't understand how comparing Grid and PRaid is so ridiculous |
| 14:24.36 | Cide | I find the comparisons interesting, that's all |
| 14:24.40 | Cide | pb_ee1: <Cide> since someone asked in #dongle, grid uses ~1.25 times more memory than CTRA, and ~3.3 times the cpu time |
| 14:24.46 | cladhaire | as a matter of fact sraidframes was released, saying specifically that it was "more efficient" than praid |
| 14:24.47 | Mikk | But attributing the addon implementation differences to differences in the libraries (come ON for god's sake, they're just libraries! they don't do anything as long as the addon doesn't do anything!) is ... erm.. lol |
| 14:24.56 | Mikk | cladhaire: Aye that's kinda bullshit =) |
| 14:24.59 | vhaarr | Cide: The only fair comparisons I can think of would be oRA2 vs CTRA, BigWigs vs DBM, agUF/PitBull vs some other UF. |
| 14:25.06 | cladhaire | Mikk: i'm aware =) |
| 14:25.20 | pb_ee1 | Cide: Yeah i've read that, but does CT_RaidAssist do everything Grid does? That's the question |
| 14:25.21 | Saroz | total bullshit :p |
| 14:25.23 | Hjalte | Unless you are able to find the exact same addon, one ace2 and one not ace2, then i guess comparing addons is like comparing... Cars? They do the same thing, but there can be a huge difference. |
| 14:25.25 | Mikk | I was listening in here when sRaidFrames was being "created" and all your good stuff was ripped out |
| 14:25.26 | Wobin | Now with whiter whites and brighter colours! |
| 14:25.27 | Cide | vhaarr: oRA2 vs CTRA wouldn't be fair, since oRA2 doesn't provide health bars or that stuff, does it? |
| 14:25.30 | Cide | pb_ee1: most likely, yes |
| 14:25.34 | vhaarr | Cide: ah, no, it doesn't. |
| 14:25.50 | Josh_Borke | Hjalte: that was done with EBBs and EBB |
| 14:26.00 | vhaarr | Cide: but I hesitate to recommend agUF and PitBull for comparison, since I know they both need work. |
| 14:26.08 | vhaarr | Cide: so the only thing I can recommend is BigWigs. |
| 14:26.23 | pb_ee1 | Cide: humm therre are some differences :p debuff icons, colored borders, 4 different indicators / raid member are examples |
| 14:26.31 | pb_ee1 | s/therre/there |
| 14:26.34 | pb_ee1 | s/therre/there/ |
| 14:26.41 | pb_ee1 | .... nm :p |
| 14:26.43 | Sais | lol |
| 14:26.44 | Cide | vhaarr: I'll test DBM and BW in tonights raid I think |
| 14:27.06 | Cide | pb_ee1: I'm sure there are lots of stuff that CTRA does that Grid doesn't? |
| 14:27.18 | pb_ee1 | What? :P |
| 14:27.27 | dodgizzla | "boss mods" :P |
| 14:27.35 | Cide | that's excluded in this comparison actually |
| 14:27.36 | vodrin | any idea why when i have SharedMedia installed i'm getting a 132 error |
| 14:27.46 | pb_ee1 | (ok, i'm not really objective on Ace xD) |
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| 14:27.50 | Cide | pb_ee1: um, the whole inter-client thing? |
| 14:27.59 | Nivyan | hello all - can someone help me with Quartz`? |
| 14:28.08 | Cide | let me take some examples in ace2 tongue |
| 14:28.17 | Cide | CTRA = XRS + oRA2 + Grid |
| 14:28.20 | pb_ee1 | Aha, in your values you took this in consideration too |
| 14:28.21 | Cide | possibly more |
| 14:28.25 | Tornhoof | the only thing i ever compared was my Yata mod to the original call of elements, yata is using half the memory (without ace addons) and 1/20th cpu time |
| 14:28.32 | pb_ee1 | Cide: yup, i see |
| 14:28.35 | Mikk | CTRA = XRS + ORA2 + PerfectRaid for me =P |
| 14:28.47 | cladhaire | actually |
| 14:28.48 | Cide | XRS + oRA2 + <insert unitframes>, yeah |
| 14:28.53 | cladhaire | sraifframes is the most basic CTRA example |
| 14:29.00 | pb_ee1 | Cide: and grid takes more memory and cpu than CTRA by itself? |
| 14:29.00 | cladhaire | most feature-close. |
| 14:29.07 | Cide | pb_ee1: yes |
| 14:29.12 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 14:29.26 | Nivyan | I need help with quartz, the red "zone" which indicates when to start casting the next spell is in the wrong side [RED===> ] <--- spellbar |
| 14:29.28 | Mikk | cladhaire: prolly true yeah |
| 14:29.34 | vhaarr | Cide: cool, I've never seen numbers from both in a raid situation with bossmods ticking. |
| 14:29.35 | pb_ee1 | And the difference is *really* noticable? |
| 14:29.37 | Wobin | Nivyan: Don't embed it |
| 14:29.48 | Nivyan | then it works? thx :D |
| 14:29.50 | Stephmw | Nivyan: I think the option for that is 'merge' something or other |
| 14:29.51 | Cide | I haven't either :) |
| 14:29.57 | Stephmw | Nivyan: what Wobin said :) |
| 14:30.14 | _NiC | Has anyone experienced that sRaidFrames are showing wrong characters in the frames, while the tooltip is correct? Fixes itself after a /console reloadui, and seems to only happen when I join AV.. |
| 14:30.16 | Fisker- | Gagorian |
| 14:30.19 | Fisker- | stop beginner mistakes |
| 14:30.20 | Cide | I imagine Grid might perform better than CTRA over time; the latter could use some revised code |
| 14:30.24 | Saroz | _NiC, update |
| 14:30.32 | Fisker- | [2007/05/28 16:19:12-1160-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Druid.lua:20: AceModuleCore-2.0: The module "PALADIN" has already been registered |
| 14:30.44 | _NiC | I updated this morning |
| 14:30.54 | Saroz | hrrrm |
| 14:30.59 | Stephmw | Fisker-: paladins generate no threat, never run out of mana and do insance ranged dps... |
| 14:30.59 | Saroz | gonna go join AV |
| 14:31.08 | Stephmw | *insane |
| 14:31.26 | Mikk | sounds like a huntard autoshotting |
| 14:31.36 | Fisker- | indeed Stephmw |
| 14:31.44 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37416 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: - Added Shaman module, removed unused table from core |
| 14:31.51 | pb_ee1 | What should I use to get some nice information on CPU/Memory usage? |
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| 14:31.58 | cladhaire | there is none |
| 14:32.01 | _NiC | saroz: might be some remnants from the previous AV, I'm not sure. Names that aren't in the current AV shows up in the frames |
| 14:32.01 | cladhaire | its all bad information |
| 14:32.04 | cladhaire | =) |
| 14:32.07 | pb_ee1 | :P |
| 14:32.11 | Gagorian | Fisker-: l2p :> |
| 14:32.14 | pb_ee1 | So how did CIde get his info? :P |
| 14:32.23 | Saroz | _NiC, happens when you port from inside one BG to another? |
| 14:32.27 | cladhaire | the info is fine |
| 14:32.29 | cladhaire | its just not "nice" |
| 14:32.31 | cladhaire | i'm being silly |
| 14:32.32 | Fisker- | it's you that should l2p :( |
| 14:32.36 | Kabira | hello, i am using buffalo and was wondering how i would get it on the top left instead of next to my mini-ma[ |
| 14:32.38 | Kabira | m |
| 14:32.43 | _NiC | saroz, haven't tried that, only from shattrath to AV |
| 14:32.43 | Gagorian | Fisker-: Update it you noob :( |
| 14:32.48 | cladhaire | ~framexml |
| 14:33.01 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 14:33.01 | pb_ee1 | No worries cladhaire, whatever you do I suppose I'll still be more silly than you |
| 14:33.01 | pb_ee1 | do you have some money btw? :P |
| 14:33.03 | Saroz | _NiC jumping between BGs here, works |
| 14:33.07 | pb_ee1 | (lol) |
| 14:33.18 | Saroz | _NiC, make sure you have the latest |
| 14:33.33 | _NiC | I'll check the updates again. |
| 14:33.37 | Gagorian | Fisker-: Fixed it about 1 minute after I commited it, soo, it is you who needs to l2update :P |
| 14:33.38 | Kabira | anyone know? |
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| 14:35.36 | Fisker- | i can't update before the commit sync |
| 14:35.37 | Fisker- | tsk |
| 14:35.59 | Lorthien | I keep getting a constat error that Bug Stack says: [2007/05/28 10:26:04-64-x1]: Quixote-1.0-34355 (Quixote):275: attempt to get length of local 't' (a nil value). Any ideas? |
| 14:36.02 | Gagorian | Fisker-: SVN or gtfo |
| 14:36.25 | pb_ee1 | Ho btw, to have some "nice" info on memory & cpu (:p), what should i use? |
| 14:36.53 | Chompers | 1500 arena rating, horay |
| 14:36.53 | pb_ee1 | Didn't get my answer ^_^ |
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| 14:37.13 | Wobin | Use a performance measureing addon like PerformanceFu or similar |
| 14:37.14 | Fisker- | :( Gagorian |
| 14:37.27 | Wobin | unless you want to use the functions directly |
| 14:37.30 | pb_ee1 | FuBar_PerformanceFu is what we generally use? |
| 14:37.32 | pb_ee1 | Wobin: nope |
| 14:41.15 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: http://mikk.cjb.net/gfx/xloot/XLoot-icon.png <-- hot |
| 14:42.08 | Mikk | Xuerian ended up not using it tho :S |
| 14:42.36 | Xuerian | I don't recall seeing that one >.> |
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| 14:48.05 | Josh_Borke | Xuerian: likely excuse |
| 14:48.50 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37417 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: Reaver: Update deDE, thanks Radon. |
| 14:49.09 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37418 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Shaman.lua: Threat-1.0: - Shaman Module: Added Healing Grace for heals, Elemental Precision for damage spells and Frost Shock Modifier (drycoded) |
| 14:49.57 | Saroz | ffs why cant I get expo to load |
| 14:51.12 | Gagorian | Does any shaman setbonus affect threat? |
| 14:51.56 | Punkie` | Josh_Borke: vhaarr just won't accept into using http://mikk.cjb.net/gfx/bigwigs/wiggy.png no matter how awesome it is :( |
| 14:52.10 | Mikk | Gagorian: [Ankh] |
| 14:52.29 | Kabira | hello, i am using buffalo and was wondering how i would get it on the top left instead of next to my mini-ma[ |
| 14:52.36 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37419 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Shaman.lua: Threat-1.0: - Shaman Module: Clean up examples |
| 14:52.39 | Kabira | the buffs i mean |
| 14:52.44 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r37420 10EnchantList/EnchantList.lua: |
| 14:52.44 | CIA-22 | EnchantList: |
| 14:52.44 | CIA-22 | - switched from Shift to Ctrl for ignoring enchants since Shift is now used for chat linking |
| 14:52.56 | vodrin | haha Punkie`, awesome |
| 14:53.07 | Mikk | vhaarr: See!? =P |
| 14:53.25 | Stephmw | Kabira: no idea - have you asked on the forum? |
| 14:53.37 | Kabira | no |
| 14:53.54 | winkiller | my shaman color in prat is brooken, anyone else also got that? |
| 14:53.59 | winkiller | same as warlock it seems |
| 14:54.04 | Matrix110 | no |
| 14:54.07 | Matrix110 | its new... |
| 14:54.34 | Matrix110 | Shaman=Dark BLue Warlock=purple |
| 14:54.41 | Mikk | winkiller: that's not prat. that's wow as of 2.1 |
| 14:54.41 | vodrin | no matrix, in prat its very similar to warlock |
| 14:54.54 | Kabira | hmm, ok and on aguf how do i show my targets de-buffs and ally's buffs? |
| 14:54.54 | vodrin | in every other frame you can tell the difference |
| 14:55.01 | Mikk | o.O |
| 14:55.07 | winkiller | nono, I have the dark blue in guild window from xperl |
| 14:55.14 | Kebinusan | yeah in prat the shaman color is a much paler blue |
| 14:55.15 | winkiller | shaman color REALLY == warlock color |
| 14:55.24 | Loki|muh | so what is prat exactly? only a library? the description in files.wowace does not tell me much |
| 14:55.24 | Matrix110 | hmmm |
| 14:55.28 | Kebinusan | I hate the new shaman color tho |
| 14:55.36 | Matrix110 | Prat is a Chatmod with 30ish modules |
| 14:55.43 | winkiller | gotta dig up the code it seems |
| 14:55.47 | Mikk | The description is totally misleading |
| 14:55.51 | Mikk | Makes it sound like a lib |
| 14:55.52 | Kabira | hmm, ok and on aguf how do i show my targets de-buffs and ally's buffs? |
| 14:55.52 | Matrix110 | that can do like everything chat related |
| 14:55.54 | winkiller | guess it's hardcoded |
| 14:56.09 | Loki|muh | okay, I will give it a try :) |
| 14:59.50 | Xuerian | Josh_Borke, Mikk: i color-adjusted that, i'll stick it on xloot later :p |
| 15:01.54 | krka | really? isn't it obvious just from the name waht prat does? |
| 15:02.12 | Gagorian | Humm. |
| 15:02.20 | krka | i think all ace addons have really descriptive and meaningful names |
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| 15:02.40 | Gagorian | prat is Swedish for talk |
| 15:02.46 | Gagorian | so it kinda is descriptive |
| 15:02.48 | Gagorian | ! |
| 15:02.55 | krka | exactly! |
| 15:02.56 | kbh | if yer a swede |
| 15:03.05 | haste | or norwegian |
| 15:03.09 | Sais | 'prattle' in English |
| 15:03.12 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: *flex* i'm so influential! see what i did thar? |
| 15:03.21 | Sais | Although it's not that obvious a link |
| 15:03.30 | Gagorian | I'm not a Swede or Norwegian and I still know it! |
| 15:03.35 | krka | you only need a few logical steps to deduce what an ace addon does |
| 15:03.36 | Gagorian | No excuses! |
| 15:03.50 | Loki|muh | Gagorian: thx for the explanation :) |
| 15:03.55 | Josh_Borke | krka: install? |
| 15:03.55 | Sais | 1) Work out what it does.... |
| 15:04.01 | Sais | <G> |
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| 15:04.08 | krka | prat -> swedish for chat -> addon to add chat related functionality |
| 15:04.43 | Sais | krka: Although in English "pratt" means 'idiot', so my first assumption was that it was a chat *blocker* |
| 15:04.43 | krka | wait... i can't even remember if i started out sarcastic or not |
| 15:04.59 | Iceroth | \Violation\libs\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:657: bad argument #1 to 'tremove' (table expected, got nil) |
| 15:05.18 | krka | Sais: yeah, but who uses english? |
| 15:05.36 | Sais | No one these days. They all use some degenerated form |
| 15:05.41 | krka | you can't go around naming addons based on meaning that particular name has in _english_ |
| 15:06.36 | Sais | They should all be renamed using Esperanto so everyone can understand what they do |
| 15:06.52 | Mikk | XStöldgods. BurkskinkaVakten. Jajemän. |
| 15:07.06 | Mikk | \o/ |
| 15:07.10 | Sais | jag kann inte prate svenska |
| 15:07.16 | krka | l2svenska |
| 15:07.52 | Mikk | Godsdamnit I can't figure out a good icon to represent "compressing stacks in your inventory" |
| 15:08.27 | Sais | mikk: Somthing like winzip's icon? |
| 15:08.37 | sdouble | just name addons like "dis addon pix stuf up frum ur mailbx n u w8 4 it 2 b dun" No more problems. |
| 15:08.46 | Stephmw | Mikk: layers getting closer together? |
| 15:09.07 | Stephmw | Mikk: with an arrow towards the 'bottom' of the stack? |
| 15:09.19 | krka | Mikk: use a tetris animation |
| 15:09.24 | Gagorian | Does white melee in Parser-3.0 have nil abilityName and damageType "Physical"? |
| 15:09.38 | pb_ee1 | sdouble: that's right. Let's rename Ace2 in "PLFATLTUTDALOT" |
| 15:09.59 | pb_ee1 | Powerful Library For Addons That Let The Users To Do A Lot Of Things" |
| 15:10.14 | pb_ee1 | s/To// |
| 15:10.36 | pb_ee1 | p |
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| 15:12.26 | FtH|Daemona | Screw you Kael, your loot suxx :( |
| 15:14.35 | Gagorian | Any Shaman who can tell me if Frostbrand causes extra threat? |
| 15:15.43 | Arjor | does it says so in the tooltip ? |
| 15:16.01 | Gagorian | No |
| 15:16.04 | CIA-22 | 03whitetooth * r37421 10TipHookerLib/TipHooker-1.0/TipHooker-1.0.lua: |
| 15:16.04 | CIA-22 | TipHookerLib: |
| 15:16.04 | CIA-22 | - Now initializes during VARIABLES_LOADED instead of PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 15:16.06 | Stephmw | Arjor: that's not always a good guide though |
| 15:16.07 | Arjor | then no |
| 15:16.15 | Arjor | really |
| 15:16.34 | Arjor | tell me what spell does extra threat and it doesn't sais so in the tooltip ? |
| 15:16.35 | Stephmw | Blizz have been known to have innacurate tooltips sometimes ;-) |
| 15:16.47 | Stephmw | not deliberately, of course |
| 15:17.03 | Arjor | for shamans it's only frostshock |
| 15:17.10 | Arjor | not sure about flameshock |
| 15:17.57 | Kabira | on aguf how do i show my targets de-buffs and ally's buffs? |
| 15:18.25 | Arjor | play with the aura options |
| 15:18.28 | Stephmw | Arjor: was just double checking.. Polymorph is such a spell |
| 15:18.46 | Stephmw | Arjor: poly a mob 3 times in a row, you're not getting it off the mage |
| 15:19.06 | Gagorian | Rockbiter should be extra threat though? |
| 15:19.29 | Arjor | poly doesn't add to threat |
| 15:19.35 | Arjor | maybe the fast you interrupt does |
| 15:19.42 | Arjor | fact* |
| 15:19.58 | Stephmw | Gagorian: I believed so too |
| 15:20.04 | Arjor | Stephmw: you |
| 15:20.13 | Arjor | Stephmw: you're kinda right on the tooltip |
| 15:20.20 | Arjor | MC doesn't say extra threat |
| 15:20.36 | Stephmw | I've sheeped plenty of mobs, not always interrupting them (we use it to pull at times) |
| 15:20.57 | Arjor | well i hit on a sheep and the warrior has agro |
| 15:21.03 | Arjor | 1* |
| 15:21.06 | Arjor | not i |
| 15:22.02 | Stephmw | guess we need to test this scientifically :) |
| 15:22.41 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37422 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Shaman.lua: Threat-1.0: - Shaman module: Added spirit weapons threat reduction for melee attacks |
| 15:24.20 | Thorgard^2 | Roxin'. |
| 15:24.20 | Gagorian | I tested if spells have any threat by having my pet pull the patroling mob |
| 15:24.20 | Gagorian | (he has aggro but 0 threat) |
| 15:24.20 | Gagorian | then do stuff, if they have even 1 threat it flips over to you |
| 15:25.37 | Gagorian | Same could be done with water elemental I guess :> |
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| 15:25.37 | Arjor | Gagorian: you know that buff cast cause threat |
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| 15:27.12 | Gagorian | Arjor: ofc |
| 15:27.14 | TecnoBrat | Stephmw, easy to test ... get a mage and a level 1 with a rusty dagger |
| 15:27.27 | TecnoBrat | sheep a mob, and then have the level one break it with the dagger |
| 15:27.35 | TecnoBrat | if he gets aggro, sheep has no threat |
| 15:28.19 | Gagorian | level one.. kek. I used unarmed combat at level 70 for 1 damage per hit :P |
| 15:28.54 | TecnoBrat | haha, that works too |
| 15:29.04 | TecnoBrat | as long as you are a caster, anyways |
| 15:29.25 | TecnoBrat | Gagorian, and what did you find? |
| 15:29.31 | Matrix110 | Water Elemental has his own threat |
| 15:29.47 | Matrix110 | if you wand your water elemental keeps aggro |
| 15:30.01 | Gagorian | Of course he has if you use him to attack |
| 15:30.13 | Matrix110 | oh you mean only pulling |
| 15:30.31 | Gagorian | TecnoBrat: Each warlock debuff/buff spell threat for each rank with 1 threat accuracy :O |
| 15:30.37 | Gagorian | Matrix110: indeed |
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| 15:30.49 | TecnoBrat | Yea, pulling doesnt cause any threat, it just gives you aggro. |
| 15:30.49 | Gagorian | just have him stay on the patrol route and he will get initial aggro |
| 15:31.41 | TecnoBrat | Gagorian, I'm not sure including that is really that important |
| 15:31.54 | TecnoBrat | If you pull aggro from a buff .. its obvious .. |
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| 15:32.36 | Gagorian | Well, accurate is accurate. It's just a table entry that gets added :P |
| 15:32.59 | Gagorian | Shadow Ward etc are things that could be used several times in combat |
| 15:33.06 | Gagorian | not a big difference but still |
| 15:33.54 | Gagorian | Besides I figured out the formula for threat for them so it wasn't even hard to include all |
| 15:33.56 | TecnoBrat | But they don't actually add any points of threat (one damage will pull from someone who got aggro from buffing). They just make a mob who has no one else on the threat table mad at you. |
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| 15:34.20 | Gagorian | Yes, they add points of threat |
| 15:34.28 | Gagorian | to all targets in combat |
| 15:35.21 | Mikk | Try soulstoning someone when tehy're bodypulling |
| 15:35.24 | Mikk | BIIIIIIG aggro =) |
| 15:35.50 | Gagorian | Hmm. Need to test that Mikk :) |
| 15:35.58 | sdouble | anyone having a problem with manufac only making a couple things before it stops, even if you tell it to make all? |
| 15:36.00 | Thorgard^2 | Just pulled a mob with my uber (non-resisted) Lightning Bolt then the druid in my party buffed me with all the crap they had and pulled aggro. :p |
| 15:36.28 | TecnoBrat | Thorgard^2, they pulled the adds you didnt hit, right? |
| 15:36.46 | TecnoBrat | Heh, Righteous Defense is gonna be fun to code |
| 15:36.49 | Mikk | no =( |
| 15:36.58 | Thorgard^2 | TecnoBrat, nope, just one mob. I hit it with my lightning bolt then they stole aggro through buffing me. |
| 15:37.00 | Gagorian | Each time a buff is cast it adds a flat amount of threat based on the buff level. |
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| 15:37.13 | Gagorian | If you spam a buff you will get aggro over any attack as long as you spam long enough |
| 15:37.23 | TecnoBrat | Gagorian, whats the calculation? |
| 15:37.35 | Gagorian | Buff level * modifiers |
| 15:37.45 | Gagorian | probably aoe buffs also * targets affected |
| 15:37.54 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37423 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: Kaelthas: Added some gravity lapse messages and other stuff. |
| 15:37.57 | Thorgard^2 | 'Tis why the Battle Shout tactic on Nefarian worketh. |
| 15:38.10 | Gagorian | For debuffs it's 2 * bufflevel * modifiers |
| 15:38.16 | Gagorian | like fear, banish etc |
| 15:38.56 | Gagorian | There's a few buffs that don't have threat at all, like unending breath. |
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| 15:39.49 | Funkeh` | hey all |
| 15:40.35 | Gagorian | hey |
| 15:42.16 | kbh | gah my game is defaulting to 800 x 600 all the time |
| 15:42.19 | sdouble | I hate that auto-loot doesn't loot disenchanted stuff |
| 15:42.25 | kbh | and looks like poo on my widescreen |
| 15:42.28 | Mikk | it does SOMETIMES... weird as heck |
| 15:44.09 | sdouble | it seems to loot it the first time |
| 15:44.17 | sdouble | then after that you're on your own |
| 15:44.46 | Mikk | should just always autoloot disenchanted stuff tbh |
| 15:45.08 | Mikk | i mean... there's GOING to be room for it in your inventory |
| 15:45.37 | Sais | Hmm. I'm got an assert from CorkFu(2.0)'s Core.lua:292 (I died, don't know why that would cause it to triggerFuBar_CorkFu:Menu2...) |
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| 15:46.17 | Mikk | sounds like it could be my fault :S |
| 15:46.41 | Mikk | dewdrop now tracks combat state so it knows when it's safe to use secure actions in the menus |
| 15:47.05 | Mikk | er no wait.. that'd be an assert in dewdrop.lua, not cork files. ain't my fault =P |
| 15:47.12 | Sais | lol |
| 15:47.45 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37424 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Mage.lua Threat-1.0.xml): Threat-1.0: - Added blank Mage module |
| 15:47.51 | Sais | I guess it's registered that as a handler, and it gets triggered for some reason when it shouldn't. |
| 15:48.43 | Sais | I suppose I should prod Tekkub |
| 15:50.34 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37425 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: Kaelthas: Mind control warning + cooldown. |
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| 16:08.51 | nevcairiel | ckknight_: is damageType in Parser-3.0 localized? |
| 16:11.31 | Punkie` | vhaarr: ping |
| 16:11.40 | vhaarr | Punkie`: pong |
| 16:11.43 | Punkie` | hey |
| 16:12.06 | Punkie` | Just a random question: Does the 'Inform people they are using an older version of bigwigs' thingie work? ;D |
| 16:12.17 | vhaarr | Punkie`: if it doesn't, let me know :P |
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| 16:13.20 | Punkie` | Well I tried it last night and said 'Did anyone get that bigwigs thing?' but noone responded :( |
| 16:14.43 | dodgizzla | Yeah maybe because they use an older version :> |
| 16:14.56 | Punkie` | well i can check if they do anyway |
| 16:18.25 | Matrix110 | Punkie` it works but people dont care about it:P |
| 16:18.51 | Dhraga | have anyone gotten Sanity2 to work with wow 2.1 (not that it throws an error or so, it just dont display things I know I have on my alts or in my bank anymore) |
| 16:19.02 | Sais | (fao Tekkub:) re my CorkFu bug - it didn't happen the next time I died... |
| 16:19.19 | Sais | (gotta love intermittent bugs) |
| 16:20.01 | kbh | sanity2 is broke until anti fixes it :P |
| 16:20.21 | kbh | and he's working on a threat meter atm |
| 16:21.16 | Dhraga | Kbh, ah, ok... any good replacement for Sanity2 then in the mean time ? |
| 16:21.45 | Andune | dhraga: I use Possessions |
| 16:22.46 | Dhraga | Aandune, a non ace addon ? |
| 16:22.56 | Dhraga | *andune even |
| 16:24.04 | Mikk | Zomg! nonace! |
| 16:24.11 | Dhraga | Andune, thanks I found it |
| 16:25.27 | Andune | np |
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| 16:33.15 | Ominous | with no pally which boss is best to do in kara after moros |
| 16:33.35 | Wogroipl | any? |
| 16:33.51 | kbh | opera maybe |
| 16:33.58 | Wogroipl | if you can take 2 shamans Maiden is very easy |
| 16:34.14 | Ominous | how come |
| 16:34.24 | Wogroipl | grounding totem catches most of the chain spell if both shamans keep it up |
| 16:35.16 | Ominous | hmm |
| 16:35.35 | Ominous | we wld have to loose a priest to a non resto shamen to get a second |
| 16:36.09 | Wogroipl | 1 priest would still be handy to remove the dots :) |
| 16:36.36 | Wixi | ominious whats your group makeup atm? |
| 16:37.12 | Ominous | 2 tanks, 2 priests, 1 rogue, 1 shamen, 1 hunter, 2 mage, 1 hunter |
| 16:37.30 | Mikk | smells like a maiden group |
| 16:37.38 | Mikk | lots of ranged |
| 16:37.38 | Wixi | so is that 2 hunters? |
| 16:38.07 | Ominous | no |
| 16:38.08 | Ominous | 1 hunter |
| 16:38.16 | Mikk | if 1 tank is a druid, have him go lolheal also |
| 16:38.32 | Wixi | 1 hunter, 2 mage, 1 hunter.. |
| 16:38.52 | Ominous | meant to be 1 hunter 1 lock |
| 16:38.56 | Wixi | :P |
| 16:39.06 | Wixi | yeh should get maiden with that |
| 16:39.28 | Wixi | might have problem when she repents tho as you have no pally to break out with BoSacrifice |
| 16:39.38 | Ominous | yea |
| 16:39.41 | TecnoBrat | make sure your priests aren't retarded, and stand in the consc |
| 16:40.16 | Wixi | as long as the shammy keeps up grounding as well it will help |
| 16:41.01 | Killmore | hmm we already do maiden without pally and no healers go eat the consc. |
| 16:41.39 | Killmore | and when we have pally, they dont use sacrifice |
| 16:43.31 | Ominous | so what do you do when healers are stunend? |
| 16:43.43 | f0zle | how do you set the range of combatlog? So it catches more events |
| 16:44.03 | Ominous | cant |
| 16:44.08 | Mikk | just stick a healer in the consa as repent is up |
| 16:44.11 | Mikk | = win |
| 16:45.03 | Ominous | k |
| 16:45.04 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r37427 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua: |
| 16:45.04 | CIA-22 | FuBar_CraftTimersFu: |
| 16:45.04 | CIA-22 | - now updates your current position before refreshing the frame |
| 16:45.24 | Killmore | Ominous: all heal over time is up for the repentance |
| 16:45.45 | Killmore | thats it |
| 16:46.01 | Mikk | aye works if your tank is at least semi-solid |
| 16:46.08 | Mikk | and knows how to keep shieldblock up |
| 16:46.35 | FrostByghte | I was wondering, with Fubar is there anyway to keep growing/shrinking displays from moving everything on the bar? I mean I realize you can align center left and right, but if any of those displays grows or shrinks because of some dynamic change it can overlap and crowd out other displays |
| 16:46.48 | kenlyric|home | I do both, make sure a hot is up and get into consecration. |
| 16:46.53 | FrostByghte | just seems like there should be some handling of this and perhaps I'm missing how to do it |
| 16:47.36 | Ominous | how long does the opera event take and how hard is it |
| 16:47.56 | Wixi | Operas easy, its tactical tho |
| 16:47.58 | Mikk | opera event takes only a few mins |
| 16:48.11 | Mikk | and yeah it's not too bloody bad after they nerfed Romulo |
| 16:48.57 | Ominous | so i think will do attuman --> moros --> opera --> maiden |
| 16:49.20 | Mikk | maiden before opera tbh |
| 16:49.33 | Saroz | maiden on day2 |
| 16:49.34 | Saroz | tbh |
| 16:49.42 | Gandharva | when I check "Threat" in Violation it's not shown in tooltip or bar display. Is Threat not fully implemented yet? |
| 16:49.49 | Keias | longest part about Opera is explaining the fights when you dunno which you have |
| 16:49.56 | Stephmw | Gandharva: what class? |
| 16:49.58 | Ominous | Saroz: we only get 1 raid a week |
| 16:50.02 | Gandharva | Warrior |
| 16:50.05 | Saroz | ... uff |
| 16:50.05 | Mikk | Keias: I mostly just run in and wipe |
| 16:50.19 | Killmore | Gandharva: I think is not ready |
| 16:50.21 | Gandharva | Omen shows my Threat values |
| 16:50.26 | Mikk | That way nubs get to see the scene, and it's lots easier to explain |
| 16:50.43 | Stephmw | Gandharva: try updating, there's been a fair few updates today |
| 16:50.55 | Gandharva | Updated 20mins ago |
| 16:51.12 | Mikk | But yeah Threat didn't exist 3 days ago |
| 16:51.13 | Killmore | Gandharva: did the threat value of Omen is the same from KTM ? |
| 16:51.17 | Mikk | So it's in pretty heavy devel |
| 16:51.53 | Gandharva | KTM is not enabled atm. I will check it. |
| 16:52.59 | Killmore | with my priest Im getting the exact same value. |
| 16:53.24 | kbh | is it like ktm where everyone has to have it? |
| 16:53.25 | Stephmw | Mikk: hitting svn==Shipping |
| 16:53.30 | snurre | gmornin bitches |
| 16:53.35 | Killmore | kbh: yes |
| 16:53.55 | Stephmw | kbh: there's certain info you just can't get about someone that threat meters need to know |
| 16:54.13 | Stephmw | kbh: (from somebody _else_) |
| 16:54.18 | Mikk | Their specs, what stance they're in, what bonuses they're getting from equipment ... |
| 16:54.36 | Mikk | Or if they're just plain too bloody far away to see what they'er doing =P |
| 16:54.39 | Stephmw | whether they've had a good coffee before the pull... oh, nm. |
| 16:55.31 | Mikk | aye, threat meters need a checkbox for that |
| 16:55.36 | Mikk | "had coffee", "went to bathroom" |
| 16:55.43 | Mikk | "not dying for a cigarette" |
| 16:56.09 | Mikk | Actually it's the readychecker that needs that |
| 16:56.34 | Mikk | HAHA oh man.. gogo oRA2 module for indicating levels of "need to go" |
| 16:56.59 | Mikk | sum up for RL to see so he knows when it's a good time to call breaks =P |
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| 16:57.15 | Gandharva | Killmore: I checked it. It's pretty much the same numbers. 1-2% difference at maximum on my quick tests. |
| 16:57.29 | durcyn | Gandharva: Violation only shows threat while you're in combat |
| 16:57.52 | Gandharva | For me it shows nothing. Even in combat. |
| 16:58.13 | Killmore | Gandharva: did you have the +2% threat on glove ? |
| 16:58.21 | Gandharva | DPS, Crit, Dmg etc... shoes up. But no Threat values. |
| 16:58.32 | Gandharva | No, Offgear |
| 16:58.41 | Ominous | does threat-1.0 sync with ktm? |
| 16:58.46 | Gandharva | no |
| 16:58.56 | Gnarfoz | yay, security tools are now officially illegal in Germany -.- http://www.heise-security.co.uk/news/90255/ |
| 16:59.15 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r37430 10sRaidFrames/ (localization.enUS.lua sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua): |
| 16:59.15 | CIA-22 | sRaidFrames: |
| 16:59.16 | CIA-22 | - Add ability to add new frames to a set |
| 16:59.16 | CIA-22 | - Add option to enter a list of player to be contained within these frames (nameList attribute) |
| 16:59.44 | Gandharva | Ominous: I saw something about KTM in changelog. But it's not implemented yet. |
| 16:59.45 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: Outlaw crowbars & win. |
| 16:59.51 | Saroz | [Ammo] have you looked into the new MAINTANK stuff in 2.1? |
| 16:59.52 | Stephmw | Gnarfoz: that's really going to fuck up lots of linux users who may have things like tcpdump installed... |
| 17:00.00 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: outlaw stupid politicians would be my plan :p |
| 17:00.07 | Gnarfoz | Stephmw: I know ;| |
| 17:00.15 | Gandharva | So no one an idea why Threat is not shown for me in Violation? |
| 17:00.19 | Stephmw | Gnarfoz: I've always maintained that the only good politician, is a jailed politician. |
| 17:00.36 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37431 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (13 files): |
| 17:00.36 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: Karazhan: |
| 17:00.36 | CIA-22 | - cleanups |
| 17:00.37 | CIA-22 | - revision of CheckForWipe within modules |
| 17:00.46 | vhaarr | Saroz: I added support for maintank/ma to Roster-2.1 |
| 17:01.25 | Saroz | yea I saw that a while back |
| 17:01.36 | Saroz | but ora2 still broadcasts it's own MT list though |
| 17:04.26 | CIA-22 | 03skyboat * r37432 10SimpleChatMods/ (. SimpleChatMods.toc config.lua myconfig.lua playernames.lua): |
| 17:04.26 | CIA-22 | SimpleChatMods: |
| 17:04.27 | CIA-22 | - Renamed myconfig.lua to config.lua so customised options aren't overwritten on new release, myconfig.lua is now an optional user-configurable file. |
| 17:04.27 | CIA-22 | - Fixed the playernames formatting in chat from breaking the look of who queries, should be back to normal now! |
| 17:04.27 | Mikk | idd. time to rip those out of oRA & CTRA |
| 17:04.36 | Mikk | and just obey the builtin ones |
| 17:04.47 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, is that custom raid frames? like you can make a block of whatever characters you want? |
| 17:05.09 | Thorgard^2 | Omen shows the threat, Violation does not. I'm guessing Violation's threat module isn't fully functional yet. |
| 17:05.28 | Cide | Mikk: the builtin ones are terrible |
| 17:05.30 | TecnoBrat | Thorgard^2, you have threat tracking enabled? |
| 17:05.53 | Thorgard^2 | TecnoBrat, yeah. |
| 17:06.18 | Mikk | Cide: I didn't suggest ripping out the FRAMES. |
| 17:06.32 | Cide | the underlying api is terrible |
| 17:06.35 | Mikk | oh |
| 17:06.41 | Mikk | aight, i'll take your word for it =) |
| 17:06.47 | Cide | it doesn't guarantee an ordered list |
| 17:06.55 | Cide | just that you have the same list of players |
| 17:07.02 | Cide | so MT1 might be MT3 for another player |
| 17:07.22 | Mikk | Hm bleh |
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| 17:07.35 | Mikk | Alpha sort? >.< |
| 17:08.02 | cladhaire | yep |
| 17:08.04 | Cide | would work but also takes away the ability to decide order |
| 17:08.37 | Cide | I know a lot of guilds that use specific positions for specific things, MT1 = MT, MT2 = OT, MT3 = MA etc. |
| 17:08.47 | Mikk | Anyway what's perhaps mostly called for is a bit of integration |
| 17:08.48 | Cide | but it'll suffice for guilds that don't, I suppose |
| 17:08.50 | cladhaire | yep |
| 17:08.50 | Iceroth | bleh, what's with violation, healing based meters work, dmg show nothing |
| 17:09.11 | Mikk | Making oRA/CTRA also report the MT selections via blizz APIs |
| 17:09.12 | Cide | Iceroth: I think you need more dots |
| 17:09.14 | Stephmw | ASL? err, I mean CLV? |
| 17:09.18 | Mikk | And picking up stuff _from_ APIs |
| 17:09.28 | Mikk | But if there's ordering info being broadcast over raid chan, obey it |
| 17:09.32 | Saroz | yes TecnoBrat |
| 17:09.38 | Mikk | Sounds about optimal to me |
| 17:10.04 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 17:11.01 | purl | i heard mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 17:11.01 | Saroz | TecnoBrat, also want to make a function to "magically" import the ora MT list |
| 17:11.01 | Mikk | oops |
| 17:11.01 | Mikk | ~emulate mikk |
| 17:11.20 | purl | ACTION butts his nose into whatever you were discussing right there and dumps his opinion on you like a metric ton of feces. Mikk never sleeps, he edits |
| 17:11.20 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, o.O :) |
| 17:11.23 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, going to "magically" import the blizzard MT list too? :P |
| 17:11.46 | Saroz | TecnoBrat, cant decide which one, never used the blizz MT list, because it's tainted here |
| 17:11.57 | Saroz | cant set an MT |
| 17:12.02 | Saroz | get a tainted error |
| 17:12.04 | TecnoBrat | oh :( |
| 17:12.04 | Fisker- | ~emulate Fisker- |
| 17:12.21 | durcyn | i thought the blizzard raidui only allowed setting one single MT? |
| 17:12.28 | Saroz | thats what I thought aswell |
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| 17:13.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 17:13.14 | Fisker- | ~emulate Fisker |
| 17:13.25 | purl | less talking and more fisting please |
| 17:13.26 | Fisker- | do want |
| 17:13.26 | TecnoBrat | Yes, 1 MT, and 1 MA |
| 17:13.28 | Saroz | THAT SUCKS |
| 17:13.46 | durcyn | two years late, ten bucks short |
| 17:14.00 | TecnoBrat | errr no ... |
| 17:14.23 | TecnoBrat | Ahh hell .. I'm not sure. |
| 17:14.50 | durcyn | we're used to it. every ui mod function that blizzard integrates back into the main ui, they seem to have some kind of rule that it must be implimented in the least useful way possible |
| 17:14.56 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, you can try "/mt Name" to set that person as MT, and "/mtoff Name" to take them off, and "/clearmt" to clear all of them |
| 17:15.14 | TecnoBrat | likewise for "/ma" etc |
| 17:15.18 | Cide | you can have more than one mt as of 2.1 |
| 17:15.35 | durcyn | but, now what will we complain about? :o |
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| 17:16.33 | TecnoBrat | I thought I read something about being able to use unit id of "maintank1" "maintank2" etc also, maybe I dreamt that though |
| 17:16.50 | Chompers | Saroz, are you doing SSC tonight? |
| 17:17.03 | vhaarr | TecnoBrat: That was removed. |
| 17:17.15 | TecnoBrat | awww |
| 17:17.22 | TecnoBrat | so I did read it .. and then they removed it? |
| 17:17.23 | Cide | which was a good choice |
| 17:17.24 | TecnoBrat | bastards! |
| 17:17.26 | vhaarr | It was useless anyway. |
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| 17:17.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+o hyperChipmunk] by ChanServ |
| 17:18.09 | TecnoBrat | why was it useless? because they had random IDs? |
| 17:18.29 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r37433 10Babble-2.2/ (6 files in 6 dirs): |
| 17:18.29 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:18.29 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW locale for the stupid change of translation from 2.0 to 2.1 |
| 17:18.31 | Cide | yes |
| 17:19.09 | Cide | and it was confusing to the end user |
| 17:19.34 | Mikk | frame.compressbutton:SetNormalTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\Baggins\\Textures\\compressbutton.tga"); <- WHY NO WORKY?!?!?! &#%¤&#%¤&#%&#%¤% |
| 17:19.50 | Funkeh` | lol :) |
| 17:20.08 | Cide | the syntax is fine :) |
| 17:20.37 | vhaarr | Mikk: Remove the .tga? |
| 17:20.44 | vhaarr | or is that only for blp |
| 17:20.51 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 17:20.58 | Cide | it should work both implicitly and explicitly iirc |
| 17:20.59 | hyperChipmunk | removing .tga is correct |
| 17:21.16 | Mikk | tried both |
| 17:21.19 | Mikk | my tga must be b0rked |
| 17:21.23 | hyperChipmunk | or rather |
| 17:21.24 | vhaarr | then you just suck |
| 17:21.24 | Fisker- | I hope it's some beginners mistake like the filename |
| 17:21.25 | vhaarr | :( |
| 17:21.26 | Fisker- | or something |
| 17:21.27 | hyperChipmunk | not incorrect =) |
| 17:22.34 | Mikk | mm i wish. i copy&pasted it out of the explorer |
| 17:22.41 | Mikk | nah, the tga is borky somehow |
| 17:22.55 | Mikk | first time i managed THAT |
| 17:22.56 | Mikk | huhu |
| 17:23.40 | Fisker- | bah |
| 17:23.48 | Fisker- | would be funny if it was because of capitalization and such |
| 17:24.13 | Mikk | purl, fisker--- |
| 17:24.23 | dotted | purl, fisker--- |
| 17:24.49 | Stephmw | purl, fisker-- |
| 17:24.54 | Fisker- | purl, fisker |
| 17:25.17 | purl | i guess fisker is hardware, software, all the same, I have no idea |
| 17:25.17 | [KzM]Fatalis | - |
| 17:26.33 | Mikk | um, wait ... |
| 17:26.33 | Mikk | did i restart wow? |
| 17:27.13 | Thorgard^2 | ... |
| 17:27.14 | Mikk | vhaarr: you were right. i do suck. |
| 17:27.29 | Mikk | ~vhaarr++ |
| 17:27.40 | krunk- | rawr |
| 17:27.58 | Leialyn | ckknight: does sct now use parser3.0 with your ParserLib Changes? Cause it messes up at me ^^ |
| 17:28.22 | dotted | ~karma Fisker- |
| 17:28.22 | purl | fisker- has karma of -4 |
| 17:29.57 | Saroz | Chompers, ye |
| 17:30.03 | Fisker- | ~karma dodgizzla |
| 17:30.03 | purl | dodgizzla has neutral karma |
| 17:30.06 | Mikk | Wisdom of the day: Remembering that you suck will help you fix problems, cause you'll need to start from the beginning and re-check everything, just like you do when momma can't get her digicam software running. |
| 17:30.08 | Fisker- | ~karma dotted |
| 17:30.08 | purl | dotted has karma of 1 |
| 17:30.15 | Fisker- | bah |
| 17:30.25 | Fisker- | purl, fisker++++++++++++++++ |
| 17:30.29 | Fisker- | ~karma fisker |
| 17:30.29 | purl | fisker has karma of -1 |
| 17:30.33 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 17:30.34 | dodgizzla | I should change my highlight from $me to "boobies" |
| 17:30.34 | Chompers | whats karma? |
| 17:30.45 | Mikk | ~karma fisker- |
| 17:30.45 | purl | fisker- has karma of -4 |
| 17:30.49 | Fisker- | :) |
| 17:30.51 | Fisker- | ;( |
| 17:30.52 | harldephin | omg, dodgizzla.. |
| 17:30.53 | Stephmw | it's a measure of your worth |
| 17:30.54 | Fisker- | you no fun |
| 17:30.55 | Chompers | and who assigns it here :/ |
| 17:31.08 | Fisker- | You're not like Mikord or Mikma :( |
| 17:31.08 | Mikk | everyone. it's very collaborative =) |
| 17:31.21 | Mikk | ~mikord++ |
| 17:31.53 | Mikk | ~mikma++ |
| 17:31.53 | Stephmw | ~Fisker--- |
| 17:31.53 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 17:31.57 | purl | i guess mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 17:31.57 | TecnoBrat | Leialyn, whats the error? |
| 17:32.47 | Leialyn | TecnoBrat: not really an error but I get something like +1800 (Healer') ... or +600 (Healer's Heilige) ... only partly captured strings |
| 17:32.53 | dotted | purl, dotted++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 17:33.01 | dotted | ~karma dotted |
| 17:33.01 | purl | dotted has karma of 1 |
| 17:33.04 | dotted | :( |
| 17:33.12 | CIA-22 | 03malkom * r37434 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/BattlegroundFuLocale-frFR.lua: FuBar_BattlegroundFu : added French Translation |
| 17:33.43 | Mikk | purl, dotted...... |
| 17:33.55 | TecnoBrat | wth is "Healer's Heilige"? |
| 17:33.56 | dotted | D: |
| 17:34.10 | harldephin | TecnoBrat: where's that from |
| 17:34.21 | Leialyn | something like "Frank's Heilige Nova ... or so |
| 17:34.27 | TecnoBrat | harldephin, Leialyn's message up 5 lines |
| 17:34.40 | harldephin | oh |
| 17:34.41 | TecnoBrat | Heilige = Holy? |
| 17:34.44 | Thorgard^2 | Yes. |
| 17:34.55 | TecnoBrat | Ahh see, if its not english .. I'm confused :P |
| 17:35.29 | krunk- | is there a flexbar official site to grok some help on setting them up? |
| 17:35.32 | dodgizzla | harldephin: what? I always get mistakenly highlighted instead of dotted :p |
| 17:35.49 | krunk- | I found this one googling, http://flexdev.mmorpgaming.com/, but it seems to have become a parked site |
| 17:36.52 | harldephin | dodgizzla: uhm. i've got a highlight for $me, but not for boobies, and you've used both of which in the same line so i was slightly confused. |
| 17:37.50 | dodgizzla | I see, happens all the time, though :o |
| 17:37.51 | rubik | hmm.. anyone else have problems with Aloft plates hiding after a priest in, say your group of 5, mind controls a mob on a pull? i have to toggle Aloft off/back on to show the enemy npc plates again.. every time someone is MC-ed.. |
| 17:38.43 | Saroz | WTF is tainting my blizz "Set Maintank" feature |
| 17:38.43 | Saroz | ffs |
| 17:38.49 | Leialyn | TecnoBrat well maybe its because of swfixlogstrings but I had no errors with "old parserLib" ^^ |
| 17:39.12 | dodgizzla | Regarding Aloft I'm also kinda "confused" with it showing (blabla's Minion) everytime on every mob, because I mind-controlled one some time earlier... |
| 17:39.28 | harldephin | hehe |
| 17:39.29 | Iceroth | violation is broken :'( http://ace.pastey.net/43100 |
| 17:39.47 | dodgizzla | Saroz: I got that, too. My error message said it oRA2 was doing something nasty, but oh well, who knows what exactly happened |
| 17:40.48 | Stephmw | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH |
| 17:41.24 | Saroz | blizzard' taint warning is fucked up |
| 17:41.32 | Saroz | mine says it's advanced tradeframe |
| 17:41.56 | CIA-22 | 03Octane666 * r37435 10DrWhoLib/DrWho-1.0/DrWho-1.0.lua: |
| 17:41.56 | CIA-22 | DrWhoLib: |
| 17:41.56 | CIA-22 | - Removes names from whoQ properly once we've received the data |
| 17:41.57 | CIA-22 | - Restores SetWhoToUI properly |
| 17:41.57 | CIA-22 | - Corrected bug in FriendsFrame_OnEvent hook |
| 17:42.47 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 17:42.50 | Fisker- | DrWhoLib |
| 17:42.51 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
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| 17:45.36 | Kinkx | Any good lightweight chat mods sorta like Prat out there? |
| 17:45.40 | Wogroipl | were there more people who's WoW reverted to a 800x600 resolution? |
| 17:45.49 | TecnoBrat | Kinkx, Prat |
| 17:46.04 | TecnoBrat | its modular, you can turn stuff you dont want off |
| 17:46.24 | Kinkx | I like Prat, but kind of annoying to modify it each time I update |
| 17:46.37 | Kinkx | Nevermind.. |
| 17:46.39 | TecnoBrat | modify it? |
| 17:47.02 | sdouble | I too like Prat, but it doesn't seem to be remembering people's class/level |
| 17:47.10 | sdouble | It was fine before the update. |
| 17:47.27 | harldephin | Wogroipl: i don't know of any |
| 17:48.04 | dodgizzla | Only thing I'd love to see in Prat would be some kind of regex filter to filter out messages containing crap. But since there is that reporting feature in 2.1 I don't mind anymore :o |
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| 17:48.12 | FRUCHT | hi |
| 17:48.16 | FRUCHT | what the heck is focusß |
| 17:48.39 | FRUCHT | i've had it activated for months, but never actually seen it in use |
| 17:48.45 | harldephin | ? |
| 17:48.52 | Thorgard^2 | FRUCHT, focus as in the focused target? |
| 17:48.59 | FRUCHT | maybe |
| 17:49.05 | FRUCHT | i can set it up with pitbull |
| 17:49.10 | harldephin | "activated" ? |
| 17:49.12 | Thorgard^2 | Target someone, type /focus and get them focused in a unit frame. |
| 17:49.19 | harldephin | /focus is a bliz command |
| 17:49.21 | FRUCHT | well, "not hidden" |
| 17:49.28 | FRUCHT | alright, thanks :) |
| 17:49.50 | harldephin | it's an additional target frame that doesn't get deselected automatically when you click anywhere |
| 17:50.42 | TecnoBrat | plus you can use it for really cool macros! |
| 17:51.00 | TecnoBrat | like a resheep macro ... /cast [target=focus] Polymorph |
| 17:51.04 | harldephin | or just for the occasional escort quest |
| 17:51.06 | TecnoBrat | best thing ever :) |
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| 17:51.12 | harldephin | yea |
| 17:51.30 | FRUCHT | it seemed rather useless at first, but it might be a nice gimmick |
| 17:51.50 | TecnoBrat | FRUCHT, what class do you play? |
| 17:51.57 | FRUCHT | rogue |
| 17:52.01 | TecnoBrat | its nice for arena's too ... |
| 17:52.11 | Mikk | Aeuhm, nub question... Are there addons that show your focus as a unitframe? o.O |
| 17:52.22 | harldephin | lol |
| 17:52.29 | TecnoBrat | oh for a rogue .. you can /focus a healer .. blind them .. see when theya re casting to kick .. etc |
| 17:52.34 | TecnoBrat | its kinda OP actually |
| 17:53.06 | TecnoBrat | Mikk, agUF and Pitbull I believe (not sure about pitbull ... agUF for sure though) |
| 17:53.24 | Stephmw | PB does |
| 17:54.06 | TecnoBrat | actually, more to the point ... for a rogue you can sap a healer .. and then watch the focus frame to see when they are unsapped to blind (and have your blind macroed so you dont even have to switch targets) |
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| 17:54.21 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r37436 10/branches/AspectsBar/: AspectsBar |
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| 17:55.48 | Gnarfoz | TecnoBrat: neat :) that would be using [target=focus][ |
| 17:56.06 | Gnarfoz | (as in /cast [target=focus] Blind) |
| 17:56.10 | TecnoBrat | yes Gnarfoz |
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| 17:56.38 | Gnarfoz | gotta use that then, and make Gladiator set focus by right clicking :D |
| 17:56.41 | Gandharva | Where are the Threat 1.0 warrior threat values from? They are different to KTM values. |
| 17:56.56 | durcyn | Gandharva: a lot of it was ripped straight from KTM. |
| 17:57.31 | Gandharva | strange... newest KTM has a lot of different values |
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| 17:58.18 | durcyn | perhaps, but i wouldn't consider either to be authoritative |
| 17:58.36 | durcyn | since threat is incomplete, and kenco eats puppies |
| 17:59.13 | TecnoBrat | Gnarfoz, you can also do like .. "/focus [modifier:shift]" "/clearfocus [modifier:ctrl]" |
| 17:59.29 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:00.07 | Gnarfoz | it seems I underestimated focus's use :D |
| 18:00.16 | TecnoBrat | hehe |
| 18:00.51 | TecnoBrat | I use it in arenas as a paladin .. I always focus a shadow priest .. so when they are casting mana burn on me I can ninja a stun on them :P |
| 18:01.07 | Adirelle | KTM reports pet aggro as master aggro :/ |
| 18:01.09 | Gandharva | Revenge (highest rank) differs alot: KTM: 483 / Threat 1.0: 417. That's nearly 16% difference. oO |
| 18:01.39 | Arrowmaster | didnt revenge get adjusted in 2.1 |
| 18:01.42 | TecnoBrat | Gandharva, what modifiers? Def stance, etc |
| 18:01.55 | Adirelle | any way to have acecomm display unencoded data in a chat channel ? |
| 18:02.21 | TecnoBrat | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Aggro |
| 18:02.27 | TecnoBrat | Revenge Rank 8 (lvl 70) 417 |
| 18:02.38 | Adirelle | (btw my boar generates ~4600 on charge+growl) |
| 18:02.39 | TecnoBrat | its possible Threat is missing def stance modifier? |
| 18:02.51 | ravagernl | yeah boar is sick |
| 18:03.36 | Gandharva | Hm, these are the table entries. I guess both addons apply the modifier afterwards. Or am I wrong here? |
| 18:03.58 | Gagorian | The modifiers should be applied afterwards |
| 18:04.27 | Gagorian | But since threat-1.0 is not in a release ready state some values can be wrong cause nothing has been verified |
| 18:04.33 | TecnoBrat | Gandharva, are you looking at the code .. or the actual values shown in game? |
| 18:04.43 | Gandharva | code |
| 18:04.52 | TecnoBrat | becuase revenge is supposed to be 417+damage |
| 18:05.29 | Gagorian | Some values are correct (tested in 2.1), some are taken from assorted sources and can be wrong. Once the base code and each module has been completed it's very easy to adjust all the values. |
| 18:05.32 | TecnoBrat | +modifiers |
| 18:05.32 | Kebinusan | revenge got its damage buffed but its threat reduced so that more or less it does the same threat per damage or something |
| 18:05.40 | Kebinusan | I think anyway |
| 18:05.52 | Gandharva | KTM: ["revenge"] = ... [snip] ... ["8"] = { threat = 483 }, |
| 18:06.55 | Gagorian | Well, Gandharva: easy way to solve this is for you to test the threat in-game and then report it here and we'll modify it to the correct value :) |
| 18:07.02 | Gnarfoz | [2007/05/28 20:06:23-751-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Warlock.lua:196: attempt to perform arithmetic on field '?' (a nil value) |
| 18:07.05 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.08 | Gnarfoz | yay :< |
| 18:07.26 | Gnarfoz | (it's when I buff myself with Demon Armor, rank... 5) |
| 18:07.28 | Gandharva | Too much work ^^ |
| 18:07.46 | Adirelle | btw, I can't see the threat bars in Violation, tho I updated |
| 18:07.50 | Adirelle | 30 min ago |
| 18:07.59 | TecnoBrat | "Revenge: This ability has been modified to do substantially more damage. The threat bonuses have been adjusted so that the threat generated remains relatively unchanged." |
| 18:08.02 | TecnoBrat | as of 2.1 |
| 18:08.20 | Mikk | key word being "relatively" |
| 18:08.32 | Gandharva | Maybe KTM uses the old values. |
| 18:08.41 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37437 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: - Warlock Module: Buff functions now actually point to the correct tables |
| 18:08.44 | Mikk | quite possibly |
| 18:08.45 | Mikk | test it =) |
| 18:08.52 | Gagorian | Gnarfoz: ^^ |
| 18:08.56 | rubik | why does S&D sometimes see Quartz and PT3Bar so i can toggle them to "always load" and sometimes it doesn't see/list them? |
| 18:08.59 | Gandharva | How? |
| 18:09.11 | Gnarfoz | Gagorian: yeah, I just realized what was wrong, also :) it was all shadowward :D |
| 18:09.20 | rubik | and how do i make both of those (quartz/pt3bar) ALWAYS load? edit the toc file? |
| 18:09.20 | Mikk | take your warrior and get him to revenge something a few times |
| 18:09.22 | Gagorian | Gnarfoz: Copy + paste ftw :> |
| 18:09.23 | Gnarfoz | would have fixed it myself now, but you were faster :) |
| 18:09.29 | Mikk | then take something else, do damage with it, and see when it gets aggro |
| 18:09.38 | Mikk | report back amount of damage done on both toons |
| 18:10.12 | Mikk | actually report back the entire combatlog |
| 18:10.20 | TecnoBrat | actually ... so ... |
| 18:10.27 | TecnoBrat | wowwiki wasn't updated since the patch went live |
| 18:10.37 | TecnoBrat | so that value is definately wrong |
| 18:10.39 | TecnoBrat | and so is KTM |
| 18:10.49 | Gnarfoz | it's not an exact science anyway :) |
| 18:10.53 | Gagorian | Possibly (could be PTR though as well). |
| 18:10.56 | Gandharva | OK nice - so no testing ^^ |
| 18:11.03 | Gagorian | Well, have a friend hit a mob for n damage |
| 18:11.16 | Gagorian | Then you take that damage * 1.1 to get threat to get aggro |
| 18:11.21 | Gagorian | then bash ability until you get aggro |
| 18:11.23 | TecnoBrat | Gagorian, could .. except that hasn't been updated since like dec :P |
| 18:11.39 | Gagorian | Repeat that for several different damages and you will narrow down the threat into a range |
| 18:11.54 | Gagorian | (use unarmed without gear for smaller variation) |
| 18:12.02 | TecnoBrat | January version of the page .. http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Formulas:Aggro&oldid=423018 ... says 417 :) |
| 18:12.15 | Gnarfoz | Gagorian: most abilities require weapons, tho :< |
| 18:12.23 | Gagorian | With enough work you can easily get it into a +- 1 threat interwall |
| 18:12.32 | ravagernl | how do you get the threat value from an attack? |
| 18:12.33 | Gagorian | Gnarfoz: Well, that wont matter cause you can have your friend melee over it |
| 18:12.36 | Mikk | take a 1 dps dagger from the n00b vendor |
| 18:12.42 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 18:12.43 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:12.49 | TecnoBrat | Gnarfoz, have the person trying to pull aggro autoattack with no weapons |
| 18:12.49 | Gnarfoz | works now btw, Gagorian :) |
| 18:13.15 | Mikk | also keep in mind that different classes have threat modifiers |
| 18:13.25 | TecnoBrat | use a caster :) |
| 18:13.27 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r37438 10Incubator/ (Incubator.toc Locale-zhTW.lua): Incubator:Added zhTW localization |
| 18:13.27 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r37439 10/branches/AspectsBar/ (. AspectsBar.lua AspectsBar.toc AspectsBar.xml): AspectsBar - first release |
| 18:13.48 | Mikk | TecnoBrat: and have it not be a mage using arcane missiles with arcane subtlety talent |
| 18:13.53 | Mikk | =P |
| 18:14.00 | Mikk | (but yeah melee ftw) |
| 18:14.03 | TecnoBrat | Mikk, autoattacking |
| 18:14.07 | Mikk | aye |
| 18:14.30 | Mikk | casters are nice that way, they do the same crap damage autoattacking at level 70 that they did at level 1 =P |
| 18:14.31 | Necrathex | and not a rogue or feral druid |
| 18:14.43 | Necrathex | since they have innate reduced threat |
| 18:14.43 | TecnoBrat | Mikk, exactly |
| 18:14.44 | Mikk | feral druid in casterform kinda works |
| 18:14.50 | Gnarfoz | hrm next error :D |
| 18:14.58 | Mikk | but druids have lots of strength from level =( |
| 18:15.00 | Gnarfoz | [2007/05/28 20:13:03-752-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:277: AceOO-2.0: cannot multiply two incompatible objects |
| 18:15.03 | Gnarfoz | <in C code>: ? |
| 18:15.06 | Gnarfoz | AceEvent-2.0-37328 (Ace2):320: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 18:15.08 | Gnarfoz | AceEvent-2.0-37328 (Ace2):1019: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:1012> |
| 18:15.14 | Thrae | Mikk: Eh? What about Feral Druids? *plays one* |
| 18:15.25 | Mikk | Thrae: cats have reduced threat |
| 18:15.30 | TecnoBrat | Thrae, you have a innate aggro reduction |
| 18:15.56 | Mikk | same as rogues and warriors in battle/zerker stance |
| 18:16.08 | Mikk | well same idea anyway.. dunno if the % is the same |
| 18:16.09 | Gandharva | 2.1 revenge: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=286944055&postId=2865003203&sid=1#0 |
| 18:16.24 | Gagorian | Gnarfoz: Are you MD lock? |
| 18:16.29 | Gandharva | reading... |
| 18:16.30 | Gnarfoz | Gagorian: currently, yes |
| 18:16.43 | Gnarfoz | whatever drove me into that ;p |
| 18:16.50 | Gagorian | *shivers* well |
| 18:17.01 | Thrae | Right, the Cat threat reduction is the same as Rogue's, and they have a "detaunt" (ala Disengage, Feint). |
| 18:17.19 | Arrowmaster | no cat threat is -20% i thought |
| 18:17.21 | Fisker- | Anyone know how to fix the issue with instance always being set to heroic? |
| 18:17.22 | Mikk | calling it a detaunt is a little optimistic =P |
| 18:17.25 | Arrowmaster | rogues are -29% |
| 18:17.27 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r37440 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-1.0: improved druid module, calculate missing ranks of maul and faerie fire, moved sublety to only spells not all aggro |
| 18:17.44 | Gandharva | Revenge is now 197 |
| 18:17.52 | Thrae | Druids in Bear Form has an innate Threat Increase, same as Warriors in Protection Stance. And now Druids also have the Subtley talent applied to Damage spells as well. |
| 18:18.02 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r37441 10/branches/TrackingBar/: TrackingBar - |
| 18:18.12 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: I'm pretty sure it's the same, let me go on the Druid forums. |
| 18:18.15 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (i=starfox@85.127.160.221) |
| 18:18.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah actually i cant remember right now which it is |
| 18:18.27 | Fisker- | druids are -29% as well |
| 18:18.33 | Fisker- | in cat form |
| 18:18.41 | Mikk | not that i trust anything on the forums |
| 18:18.48 | Mikk | test yourself ftw |
| 18:18.51 | nevcairiel | only difference on druids in bear is, that there +threat talent is additive |
| 18:18.54 | nevcairiel | unlike warriors |
| 18:19.05 | Thrae | Mikk: You'd be surprised how much research is done by people on the forums. |
| 18:19.07 | Fisker- | i dunno why it's -29% |
| 18:19.14 | Fisker- | everyone thought it was a typo at first |
| 18:19.25 | Mikk | Thrae: Aye, there'll be clued people there as well. |
| 18:19.26 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37442 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: - Line 277 error |
| 18:19.35 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Yeah, but Warriors can stack Sunder, so it all balances out kinda. |
| 18:19.41 | Mikk | Thrae: Problem for me myself is I don't know for sure that they're clued until I've checked up on them several times =P |
| 18:19.48 | Arrowmaster | the -29% was because when they changed it from multiplicitive to additive it stayed the same for rogues with salv |
| 18:20.00 | Gagorian | Gnarfoz: Try now |
| 18:20.06 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Sunder is a big threat bonus over our Faerie Fire (Feral), which is not only a talent, but can't be stacked. It only gives some threat every 6 seconds. |
| 18:20.14 | Arrowmaster | -20% * -30% = -29% + -30% |
| 18:20.24 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r37443 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Optimization |
| 18:20.25 | nevcairiel | Thrae: druids have lacerate |
| 18:20.30 | nevcairiel | Thrae: if mobs can bleed :P |
| 18:20.30 | Mikk | HAHAHAHAHAAHHA |
| 18:20.32 | Mikk | lacerate |
| 18:20.32 | Gnarfoz | Gagorian: checking |
| 18:20.34 | Mikk | HAHAHHAAHAH |
| 18:20.42 | *** join/#wowace Sonsora (n=Sonsora@0x57314ddf.sgnxx2.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 18:20.45 | Sonsora | hey guys |
| 18:20.50 | nevcairiel | its not that bad, if mobs can actually bleed |
| 18:20.55 | Sonsora | i have a question about skinner/DoTimer |
| 18:21.00 | Mikk | Only thing lacerate is good for is dumping rage into if you can't spend it via mangle & maul |
| 18:21.03 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Yeah, and Warriors have Devestate(?) |
| 18:21.04 | Fisker- | ah Arrowmaster |
| 18:21.13 | Arrowmaster | we had a druid maintank almost everything in kara this week |
| 18:21.15 | Mikk | Oh and on aggro resetting mobs |
| 18:21.22 | Galka | Something strange is going on here. When I start WoW and choose a character, the game's loading screen progress bar goes to full then crashes to desktop with an exception error. Yet if I disable all addons, then choose the character, I get in. If I then use ACP to enable those exact same addons once already in the game, it does not crash. What is going on here? |
| 18:21.24 | Arrowmaster | had an arms warrior tank prince and nightbane |
| 18:21.32 | Iceroth | on bleeding mobs, lacerate > maul |
| 18:21.39 | Mikk | o rly? |
| 18:21.41 | Iceroth | i use maul as rage dump only then |
| 18:21.47 | TecnoBrat | Lacerate = 285 threat |
| 18:21.49 | Sonsora | the question is, Skinner was supposed to skin DoTimer now, but still when you log in, the warning is coming "DoTimer loaded, but not found in SkinMe directory".. why ? |
| 18:21.49 | nevcairiel | Thrae: ah well we can discuss that forever :) both can actually keep aggro |
| 18:21.52 | TecnoBrat | and spamable |
| 18:21.58 | Thrae | Mikk: Actually, someone did some tests on the 2.0 PTR back before 2.0 came out, and from seriously amount of tests, even with bleed immune mobs, Lacerate can win out over Maul. |
| 18:22.21 | TecnoBrat | Maul = 207 threat, on swing timer |
| 18:22.22 | Thrae | nevcairiel: I'm not saying Druids can't keep aggro, I'm just saying properly geard Prot. Warrior is better then a properly geared Feral Druid, as it should be. |
| 18:22.25 | Mikk | i dunno, unless KTM is seriously wrong, even when I'm going totally slaphappy with lacerate, it only accounts for like 10% of my total threat |
| 18:22.46 | *** join/#wowace barduck (n=barduck@bzq-179-109-17.static.bezeqint.net) |
| 18:22.51 | Mikk | and i'm not saying druids can't hold aggro. on the contrary, druid aggro >>>>> warrior aggro. |
| 18:22.52 | Thrae | I wish I could find the thread, but I bet it's buried pretty harshly :( |
| 18:23.07 | Gnarfoz | Gagorian: [2007/05/28 20:22:24-753-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:279: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 18:23.10 | Gnarfoz | <in C code>: ? |
| 18:23.12 | Mikk | <- plays druid tank |
| 18:23.14 | Gnarfoz | it moved two lines down :D |
| 18:23.15 | Thrae | Mikk: Not properly geared Prot. Warriors |
| 18:23.17 | Gnarfoz | AceEvent-2.0-37328 (Ace2):320: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 18:23.19 | Gnarfoz | AceEvent-2.0-37328 (Ace2):1019: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:1012> |
| 18:23.34 | Gagorian | Gnarfoz: Nah it's another error |
| 18:23.40 | Mikk | Thrae: So why can I as a druid OT out-threat our properly geared prot warrior MTing Gruul? =P |
| 18:23.42 | Gnarfoz | also possible ;) |
| 18:24.05 | Gnarfoz | perhaps it's one of the other Demonology buffs? |
| 18:24.16 | Thorgard^2 | Mikk, 'cause you're fsckin' AWESOME. :D |
| 18:24.19 | Gnarfoz | soul link? demonic knowledge? |
| 18:24.35 | Mikk | Granted, I'm agi happy for dodge magic. Which lends itself to a fairly oomph critrate. |
| 18:24.36 | Thrae | Mikk: It's just there are so many Warriors compared to Feral Druids, people think Feral Druids are better innately, when it's just because it requires more skill to be a Feral Druid tank then a Warrior tank. The more people play a class, the less good players stand out, as people tend to remember the negatives more. |
| 18:24.51 | Sonsora | guys what is the easiest way to learn to develop addons ? |
| 18:24.55 | FRUCHT | are you Mikk from the scrolling combat text? |
| 18:24.59 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 18:25.25 | purl | well, mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 18:25.26 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37444 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: - Added nil check to buff flat threat modifier on line 279 |
| 18:25.26 | *** join/#wowace |s|Sparhawk (n=apoc13@c-24-10-245-73.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 18:25.27 | Thrae | Sonsora: Start small and build up. Go to http://www.wowwiki.com for tutorials. |
| 18:25.27 | Gnarfoz | Gagorian: will check after dinner :) |
| 18:25.27 | FRUCHT | if so, make it that i can colour the damage numbers of my styles |
| 18:25.27 | Sonsora | ok |
| 18:25.27 | BankZ | Anyone here use Arena Points? |
| 18:25.33 | BankZ | I dont see where I see the points |
| 18:25.38 | Sonsora | thrae: i just noticed that msot of them are outdated to v. 1.xxx |
| 18:25.49 | TecnoBrat | BankZ, it stopped working for me |
| 18:25.56 | TecnoBrat | or at least I can't find the points either |
| 18:26.07 | Thrae | Sonsora: My first addon was just a bunch of functions I called from macros. Then I took an existing addon and fixed some bugs, and added more features I liked. That was how I started out. The addon I modified was pretty simple, too. |
| 18:26.13 | BankZ | ANy URL that tells how to figure out your points? |
| 18:26.25 | Thrae | Sonsora: VitalWatch used to only look at Health, now it's a huge beast of features. |
| 18:26.26 | Sonsora | ok |
| 18:26.28 | TecnoBrat | BankZ, lots of them ... |
| 18:26.38 | Sonsora | :D |
| 18:26.46 | TecnoBrat | http://arena.onefingerzen.com/ |
| 18:26.54 | Sonsora | well thrae maybe you can snawer on my other question then `? |
| 18:27.16 | Cheads | uhmm which addons use that Threat-1.0 yet? =) |
| 18:27.25 | Sonsora | DoTimer is supposed to be skinned by skinner now, but when i load WoW it still says: "DoTimer loaded, but not found in SkinMe directory" |
| 18:27.46 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r37445 10/branches/TrackingBar/ (. TrackingBar.lua TrackingBar.toc TrackingBar.xml): TrackingBar - first release |
| 18:27.53 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r37446 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warrior.lua: Threat-1.0: changed revenge from 417 to 197 (2.1 update) |
| 18:28.33 | TecnoBrat | Gandharva, how'd you test? :) |
| 18:28.56 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net) |
| 18:30.11 | Gandharva | I didn't. Some people testet it. Threat is between 195-200 now. |
| 18:30.22 | Gandharva | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104597121&sid=1 |
| 18:30.25 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn|afk: i got a addon blocked message from CF2 when i tried to set MT/MA on the raid panel. |
| 18:30.31 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r37447 10AspectsBar/: AspectsBar - First release |
| 18:30.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh crap, that wasn't fixed? |
| 18:31.20 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: nubcake. |
| 18:31.22 | TecnoBrat | Hmmm |
| 18:31.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Disable the special ones at the start of the design file, nev, try it then |
| 18:31.28 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: I told you about that months before release. |
| 18:31.29 | Kirkburn|afk | No, it's a Blizz bug, not mine |
| 18:31.30 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r37448 10TrackingBar/: TrackingBar - First release |
| 18:31.40 | TecnoBrat | I wonder if that guy took into account def stance and definace (if he had it) |
| 18:31.47 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I've made a comment in the lua what you have to comment out for it to work. |
| 18:32.03 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r37449 10MountMe/EzDismount.lua: |
| 18:32.03 | CIA-22 | MountMe |
| 18:32.03 | CIA-22 | - removed SitOrStand() -> was removed from Bliz in 2.1 Patch |
| 18:32.20 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: in Design.lua? |
| 18:32.27 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I don't remember |
| 18:32.37 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: comment it out and commit, please |
| 18:32.38 | nevcairiel | guess i am blind |
| 18:32.40 | vhaarr | this is bullshit |
| 18:32.43 | Gagorian | TecnoBrat: Yeah, I wouldn't trust information from random people on wow-forums too much |
| 18:32.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Wait up |
| 18:32.59 | Gagorian | It's good for now but it definately needs to be verified later |
| 18:33.02 | sylvanaar | anyone know what this means? |
| 18:33.03 | sylvanaar | If prat screws up things when its loaded pre PLAYER_LOGIN, but does not post PLAYER_LOGIN, then its the source of the issue, I would think. |
| 18:33.30 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37450 10ClearFont2/Design.lua: ClearFont2: Comment out stuff that taints. |
| 18:33.31 | TecnoBrat | Gagorian, agreed |
| 18:33.38 | sylvanaar | does that make sense to anyone? |
| 18:33.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Thanks for asking me, vhaarr |
| 18:33.51 | Mikk | Gandharva: you're aware that there's a SitOrStandOrDescend() now? |
| 18:33.53 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i commented that, and it didnt help :P |
| 18:33.58 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: What? I notified you about this ages ago. |
| 18:34.11 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: then they changed it from PTR |
| 18:34.12 | Mikk | Gandharva: ... or something like that, anyway |
| 18:34.25 | Mikk | Then again it's protected so nvm |
| 18:34.26 | Kirkburn|afk | So? You can at least ask before you sweep in and make changes! |
| 18:34.33 | Gandharva | TecnoBrat: Don't know. But the value should be alot more accurate now. |
| 18:34.37 | Fisker- | Noone know how to fix the issue with instance always being set to heroic? |
| 18:34.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Esp since nev just said it didn't help :/ |
| 18:34.57 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: He said that after I committed. |
| 18:35.05 | nevcairiel | ah i missed that line |
| 18:35.06 | Gandharva | Mikk: Yes. But it's a movement thingy. Can't be used... |
| 18:35.15 | nevcairiel | i missed one line |
| 18:35.16 | nevcairiel | works now :P |
| 18:35.17 | Gandharva | Throws errors |
| 18:35.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Aha, that's better, I guess |
| 18:35.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Can someone make a bug report about it, please? I'm really busy with exams atm :/ |
| 18:36.03 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: 04/29/07 21:41:56 rabbit ClearFont?2: Design: Comment out stuff that taints the main tank/assist menus in 2.1. |
| 18:36.07 | vhaarr | That's when I told you. |
| 18:36.14 | vhaarr | A month ago. |
| 18:36.40 | TecnoBrat | Saroz |
| 18:36.42 | Kirkburn|afk | I realise that, I've been busy and forgot |
| 18:36.44 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i missed commenting one line, works now. |
| 18:36.50 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: ah, good |
| 18:37.01 | Saroz | TecnoBrat |
| 18:37.02 | Kirkburn|afk | It's not my fault it taints, for goodness sake :( |
| 18:37.05 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, your taint should be gone if you update ClearFont2 :P |
| 18:37.11 | nevcairiel | does Slouken know? |
| 18:37.13 | Saroz | haha sweet |
| 18:37.20 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I didn't tell him. |
| 18:37.29 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I told Kirkburn|afk that he should write a post about it. |
| 18:37.42 | Gandharva | Mikk: I just commented out all the SitOrStand() stuff. Maybe there is another function that works. But SitOrStandOrDescend() doesn't. |
| 18:37.47 | Kirkburn|afk | I didn't forget on purpose :/ |
| 18:37.58 | Mikk | Gandharva: nah, prolly nothing else that'll work |
| 18:38.06 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: yeah well, I didn't commit on purpose. |
| 18:38.10 | vhaarr | :P |
| 18:38.15 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 18:38.55 | nevcairiel | guess we need to fine someone with US forum access :P |
| 18:40.56 | TecnoBrat | I have US forum access, write up something explaining it .. and I'll post it from you :P |
| 18:43.13 | Gandharva | Is the 2% threat from gloves enchant implemented in Threat 1.0 yet? |
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| 18:44.02 | TecnoBrat | I need to test the thunderfury proc some time .. |
| 18:44.17 | Gagorian | Gandharva: Yes |
| 18:44.38 | Gandharva | nice |
| 18:45.42 | Killmore | Gandharva: the cloak enchant too is supose to get the -2% threat reduction |
| 18:45.48 | sdouble | hey nevcairiel, have you heard anything about keybinding issues with bartender3? In the keybinding, I have bars 2,3,and 4 button 11 set as shift, alt, ctrl + - and it doesn't show them on the buttons nor does it work. |
| 18:45.59 | vodrin | whats this line 24 error in threat 1.0 :< |
| 18:46.05 | Gagorian | Killmore: That's in too |
| 18:46.09 | vodrin | attempt to index local 'text' |
| 18:46.12 | Gandharva | Do all raidmembers need to install this Lib to show accurate values like it is in KTM? |
| 18:46.23 | Killmore | Gagorian: yup! |
| 18:46.39 | Fisker- | but it's better than KTM! |
| 18:46.40 | sdouble | bar 1 button 11 is set as - and works fine |
| 18:46.40 | Fisker- | :D |
| 18:47.48 | TecnoBrat | Where are the item values in Threat? |
| 18:48.02 | Gandharva | in the class modules |
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| 18:48.43 | Gagorian | What items? |
| 18:48.43 | TecnoBrat | huh? like the enchant to cloak .. its in a class module? |
| 18:48.51 | TecnoBrat | or procs from items |
| 18:48.56 | TecnoBrat | like thunderfury |
| 18:49.02 | Mikk | hmmmm... can i inject AceEvent into a frame? :S |
| 18:49.08 | Gandharva | didn't find this stuff |
| 18:49.12 | Gagorian | TecnoBrat enchants are: ThreatClassModuleCore.lua |
| 18:49.18 | Gagorian | Thunderfury is nil |
| 18:49.20 | Gagorian | ! |
| 18:49.21 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r37451 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc plugins/AspectsBar.lua plugins/TrackingBar.lua): |
| 18:49.21 | CIA-22 | cyCircled: |
| 18:49.21 | CIA-22 | - add plugins(AspectsBar, TrackingBar) |
| 18:49.59 | Thorgard^2 | God I love my UPS.. Just had the power cycle off and on six times in a row. :o |
| 18:50.05 | vodrin | any idea what is causing the line 24 error for me? mission library ? |
| 18:50.07 | vodrin | missing* |
| 18:50.23 | Gagorian | vodrin: The fact that it's not complete for use :> |
| 18:50.34 | durcyn | you're testing alpha code, enjoy! |
| 18:50.42 | Gagorian | The text it passes to the function is nil and it tries to get the length of the string |
| 18:50.43 | vodrin | :> |
| 18:50.57 | Thorgard^2 | vodrin, I got around 2164 of those too. :) No worries. |
| 18:51.08 | Gagorian | I'll let antiarc fix it, cause it shouldn't pass nil |
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| 18:51.52 | CIA-22 | 03mok * r37452 10xchar/ (xchar.lua xchar.toc): xchar: battlefield capture. TOC update |
| 18:52.28 | TecnoBrat | Gagorian, KTM shows thunderfury proc at 0 threat now .. not sure that is correct though |
| 18:52.39 | TecnoBrat | its possible I guess |
| 18:52.54 | Gagorian | It probably isn't but he probably changed it cause he didn't have the new info |
| 18:52.55 | Fisker- | It was "Significantly" reduced |
| 18:53.08 | Gagorian | Better to underestimate it to 0 than to have a value that is too high |
| 18:53.28 | Gagorian | So, where to get a TF player to test it on is the next question? |
| 18:53.42 | Gagorian | I guess I could ask in my guild, but I'll do it tomorrow |
| 18:53.53 | hyperChipmunk | they probably just took off the bonus threat component |
| 18:54.33 | Gagorian | It's possible but most likely just nerfed to something low |
| 18:54.34 | hyperChipmunk | in which case, it'd all be taken care of by the standard damage/debuff checks |
| 18:55.52 | Gagorian | If anyone figures it out the code is in place to add it |
| 18:56.22 | Gagorian | Just look into ThreatBuffsData.lua and self.DebuffModifiers = {}. Add it in the same sense as the buffs listed above |
| 18:56.56 | hyperChipmunk | 2006-11-07 09:59:10 unknown_6 changed from '1024' to '0' |
| 18:57.09 | hyperChipmunk | was the change more recent than that? |
| 18:57.32 | hyperChipmunk | 2007-04-13 07:47:36 unknown_6 changed from '0' to '1024' |
| 18:57.50 | hyperChipmunk | guess that's not it |
| 18:58.11 | Xelotar | any1 here that knows alot about macros? ^^ |
| 18:58.13 | Adirelle | who wrote threat hunter module ? |
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| 18:59.40 | Gagorian | Adirelle: hyperChipmunk |
| 18:59.40 | Adirelle | oki |
| 18:59.41 | hyperChipmunk | am writing |
| 18:59.41 | hyperChipmunk | it's not done =p |
| 18:59.41 | hyperChipmunk | did the new spell transactions go in? |
| 18:59.41 | Mikk | ckknight_: ping |
| 18:59.41 | Adirelle | don't forget you can misdirect to non-player target... |
| 18:59.55 | hyperChipmunk | i have a misdirection solution using events atm |
| 18:59.57 | hyperChipmunk | of course |
| 19:00.05 | hyperChipmunk | i misdirect to my strider alla time |
| 19:00.24 | hyperChipmunk | he tanks bosses in my 3-man instance group |
| 19:00.25 | Adirelle | and another thing that maybe "annoying" : do you plan to take pet into account ? |
| 19:00.31 | hyperChipmunk | absolutely |
| 19:00.44 | hyperChipmunk | that's part of the reason i volunteered |
| 19:00.58 | Adirelle | fine, thank you |
| 19:01.03 | hyperChipmunk | I use my pet in ways that are generally outside of the realm of 'sane' |
| 19:01.17 | hyperChipmunk | i wanted to make sure he was taken care of =) |
| 19:01.22 | Adirelle | :) |
| 19:01.58 | Adirelle | Gagorian: about KTM syncing... it seems KTM merge master and pet |
| 19:02.07 | Adirelle | that will be very annoying for syncing :/ |
| 19:02.12 | Chompers | hyperChipmunk: or legal |
| 19:02.16 | Chompers | ;) |
| 19:02.16 | hyperChipmunk | shh |
| 19:02.34 | hyperChipmunk | what i do alone in instances with my pet is none of your business |
| 19:02.38 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37454 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .BabbleSpell-2.2: Added Thunderfury key |
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| 19:03.11 | hyperChipmunk | (i'm referring to using him to train mobs away from chests of course) |
| 19:03.13 | Adirelle | oh, insane thing of this kind... I've tried some of them too... after I saw dysphoria's movies |
| 19:03.38 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37455 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatBuffsData.lua: Threat-1.0: - Added Thunderfury to debuffs. TODO: figure out threat value |
| 19:03.46 | hyperChipmunk | i dunno who dysphoria is, but i could probably make some movies of my own =p |
| 19:04.06 | Adirelle | don't you know "hunter vs world" movie series ? |
| 19:04.25 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: The spell transactions are in |
| 19:04.43 | Gagorian | Adirelle: I'm not writing synching so you need to ask Antiarc about anything related to that :) |
| 19:04.52 | Adirelle | Gagorian: oki |
| 19:04.57 | hyperChipmunk | Gagorian: will they make me happy? |
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| 19:05.39 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: I think so |
| 19:05.57 | Gagorian | Try self.currentTarget for SPELLCAST_SENT target :) |
| 19:05.57 | Adirelle | vhaarr: I looked at DM sync messages, I think I can add receiving code in Violation, but I still hesitate to the way of doing it |
| 19:06.09 | vhaarr | Adirelle: okay |
| 19:06.15 | vhaarr | Adirelle: write up some code and put it somewhere |
| 19:06.41 | hyperChipmunk | Gagorian: <3 |
| 19:07.47 | hyperChipmunk | Gagorian: for both classbuffs and casthandlers, or just casthandlers? |
| 19:07.51 | hyperChipmunk | n/m |
| 19:07.54 | hyperChipmunk | dumb question |
| 19:08.30 | Saroz | fucking threat spamming errors |
| 19:08.38 | hyperChipmunk | how dare it |
| 19:08.40 | Saroz | line 24, attempt to index local text |
| 19:08.41 | Saroz | ffs |
| 19:09.25 | CIA-22 | 03mcc * r37456 10FuBar_FarmerFu/ (FarmerFuLocale-zhTW.lua FuBar_FarmerFu.toc): |
| 19:09.25 | CIA-22 | FuBar_FarmerFu: |
| 19:09.25 | CIA-22 | Add Traditional Chinese translation |
| 19:09.40 | durcyn | chinese translation on a mod named farmer? :o |
| 19:10.01 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
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| 19:10.28 | Chompers | hows SSC saroz? |
| 19:11.19 | Fisker- | http://inspired-guild.eu/index.php <-hehe |
| 19:11.27 | Fisker- | site hasn't been up for a day and like nobody knows about it |
| 19:11.29 | Fisker- | and it's hacked |
| 19:11.29 | Fisker- | :D |
| 19:12.08 | evl | jaja |
| 19:12.10 | evl | COmmit of the year |
| 19:12.11 | evl | FuBar_FarmerFu/ (FarmerFuLocale-zhTW.lua FuBar_FarmerFu.toc): |
| 19:12.15 | evl | Add Traditional Chinese translation |
| 19:12.16 | evl | :DD:D:D:D:D: |
| 19:12.32 | Fisker- | :D |
| 19:12.38 | hyperChipmunk | hehe yea |
| 19:13.03 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 19:17.25 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:17.39 | phyber | Saroz: why doesn't sRF give you the right click options when you right click a person? (Kick from party, etc). |
| 19:17.55 | ckknight_ | nevcairiel: no, it's English. There's a way to convert it, but perhaps I should just put that into the system proper as another field. |
| 19:18.23 | vhaarr | evl: haha |
| 19:18.30 | ckknight_ | Leialyn: how does it mess up? |
| 19:20.02 | kergoth | Adirelle, did you test those cvars? curious about it |
| 19:21.47 | Gnarfoz | Gagorian: http://ace.pastey.net/43160 :( |
| 19:22.08 | Leialyn | ckknight: you mean SCT with your parserLib to parser3.0 mod ? |
| 19:23.07 | Gnarfoz | which again leads to: [2007/05/28 21:22:21-755-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:239: AceOO-2.0: cannot multiply two incompatible objects |
| 19:26.05 | hyperChipmunk | Gagorian: where can i find the args passed to my CastHandlers and ClassBuffs functions? |
| 19:26.17 | hyperChipmunk | they seem to be rather inconsistent |
| 19:27.05 | hyperChipmunk | ClassBuffs first arg seems to be '1' when the buff goes on, 'true' when it goes off |
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| 19:28.52 | ckknight_ | Leialyn: Parser-3.0 has a Parser-1.1 compat layer, so SCT would be using that |
| 19:29.03 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: It returns the modifier when the buff is applied |
| 19:29.07 | Gagorian | when the buff expires it returns true |
| 19:29.15 | Gagorian | buffthreatmodifier that is |
| 19:29.22 | hyperChipmunk | /nod |
| 19:29.29 | Gagorian | I'm not sure what antiarc wants |
| 19:29.34 | Gagorian | cause he has changed it causing a few explosions |
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| 19:32.41 | Gagorian | ok, I'll make it pass nothing when it's applied.. and true when it disappears |
| 19:32.48 | Gagorian | that's the way antiarc has done it |
| 19:32.54 | Gagorian | and modify warlock module to comply |
| 19:35.15 | hyperChipmunk | so it'd be function BuffHappened(fade) ? |
| 19:35.56 | Gandharva | I think Threat 1.0 should use this values for warriors: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=94319875&sid=1&pageNo=1 Didn't find anything that's more up to date than this post. 2.1 values are in already. What do you you guys think? |
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| 19:36.31 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: Yes |
| 19:37.50 | Leialyn | ckknight: 1: old ParserLib and swfixlogstrings - works fine. 2: your new ParserLib with Parser3.0 usage and swfixlogstrings - strange sct messages. 3: same parser and without swfixlogstrings - works fine |
| 19:37.52 | a-stray-cat | ~wau |
| 19:38.12 | purl | wau is, like, WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily. |
| 19:39.04 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37457 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Warlock.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): |
| 19:39.04 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 19:39.04 | CIA-22 | - Make sure the returns from Class buffs are not nil before multiplying/adding |
| 19:39.04 | CIA-22 | - Warlock Module: Modified MD function to return correct values |
| 19:39.20 | Gagorian | Gnarfoz: ^ |
| 19:39.25 | Chompers | [Ammo]: you about? |
| 19:40.10 | Chompers | Prayer of mending is being counted as healing for the person its on, not who cast it |
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| 19:41.05 | Gagorian | Chompers: There's no easy solution to that afaik |
| 19:41.20 | Gagorian | It's same as earth shield |
| 19:41.23 | Gnarfoz | Gagorian: will check later :) |
| 19:41.44 | hyperChipmunk | that's how the game counts it too, though |
| 19:41.56 | hyperChipmunk | if you notice the counters at the end of arena matches |
| 19:42.33 | Aenslaed | prayer of mending, earth shield, the bloom portion of lifebloom |
| 19:42.47 | Aenslaed | imp leader of the pack |
| 19:42.48 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 19:42.59 | Chompers | otherwise our tank has done 98k healing :P |
| 19:43.01 | kenlyric|home | Chompers: that's intended. |
| 19:43.09 | Aenslaed | all 4 count as heals (And contribute threat) to the target, rather than the healer |
| 19:43.10 | kenlyric|home | that's how blizzard tracks it.. |
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| 19:43.58 | kenlyric|home | that's one thing to remember, it's subject to the *priests* silent resolve but gives the threat to someone else... bet that can't be fun to track. |
| 19:44.11 | kenlyric|home | especially since after the first jump, you have no way of telling which priest it came from. |
| 19:45.14 | ckknight | swfixlogstrings? blah |
| 19:45.19 | ckknight | Leialyn: are you foreign? |
| 19:45.35 | hyperChipmunk | uh |
| 19:45.50 | hyperChipmunk | that's a...what's the opposite of tautology? |
| 19:45.56 | Stephmw | hmmm are some of the Violation bars only enabled in group? |
| 19:46.25 | kenlyric|home | it's great, because I use prayer of mending as an excuse to bogart the healing of all non-healing classes :) |
| 19:46.30 | kenlyric|home | really puffs up my numbers. |
| 19:46.38 | hyperChipmunk | contradiction? |
| 19:48.02 | Stephmw | LOL. no wonder I didn't get to see Threat in my tests... my fights were over too quick. What dictates the refresh speed of the bars? |
| 19:48.31 | CIA-22 | 03myrathi * r37458 10FuBar_DungeonDiFu/ (3 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_DungeonDiFu: TOC update - 20100 |
| 19:49.11 | dotted | why is ModMenuTuFu not on files anymore? |
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| 19:49.34 | dotted | Fubar_ModMenuTuFu |
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| 19:49.47 | Mikk | Possibly because it never got updated for 2.0? |
| 19:50.01 | mexicaan | Hi, is this a common error "Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:872: bad argument #1 to 'strmatch' (string expected, got nil)" ? |
| 19:50.14 | dotted | its updated on svn to patch 2.1 Mikk |
| 19:50.20 | Mikk | weird |
| 19:50.46 | dotted | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_ModMenuTuFu/FuBar_ModMenuTuFu.toc |
| 19:50.56 | dotted | aye |
| 19:52.09 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r37459 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Hunter.lua: |
| 19:52.09 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 19:52.09 | CIA-22 | - Misdirection implemented |
| 19:52.49 | hyperChipmunk | now for pet |
| 19:53.09 | ulic | have you dediced if pets will have they |
| 19:53.14 | ulic | 're own threat? |
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| 19:53.28 | hyperChipmunk | i don't think it's really a 'decision' |
| 19:53.29 | Chompers | wooo |
| 19:53.32 | hyperChipmunk | they do have their own threat |
| 19:53.33 | Chompers | Gorehowl for me |
| 19:53.41 | ulic | ok, good :) |
| 19:53.43 | hyperChipmunk | that's just how it is =P |
| 19:54.06 | ulic | but last I knew some other mod didn't act as such :) |
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| 19:54.22 | hyperChipmunk | do we want to throw hunter and warlock in the same file? i don't think the abilities overlap |
| 19:54.42 | hyperChipmunk | i mean, it's basically just 'Growl' for hunter pet |
| 19:54.47 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 19:54.57 | hyperChipmunk | and some species ones |
| 19:54.59 | vodrin | MD for imp too =p |
| 19:55.01 | kenlyric|home | screetch, demoralizing roar. |
| 19:55.02 | hyperChipmunk | i don't think they share names though |
| 19:55.03 | kergoth | screech ftw |
| 19:55.25 | vodrin | is warlock pet threat necessary |
| 19:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but are there any spellname overlaps? |
| 19:55.47 | Kebinusan | doubtful |
| 19:55.58 | hyperChipmunk | vodrin: i'd assume people with those warrior pets would be interested |
| 19:56.00 | kenlyric|home | I don't believe so. |
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| 19:56.26 | hyperChipmunk | k, I'll put them all in one file for now |
| 19:56.41 | kenlyric|home | I don't think ktm even tracks pet threat. |
| 19:56.46 | hyperChipmunk | i don't care |
| 19:56.48 | kenlyric|home | at lesat, the one time i tried it didn't |
| 19:56.48 | hyperChipmunk | this isn't KTM |
| 19:57.17 | Antiarc | Morning folks. |
| 19:57.25 | hyperChipmunk | greetings |
| 19:57.28 | Killmore | Hiya! |
| 19:57.49 | hyperChipmunk | do we have any facilities for pet handling, or am i gonna need to hack some in? |
| 19:58.04 | hyperChipmunk | basically, i just need to be able to send threat for a different unit |
| 19:58.06 | kenlyric|home | i guess my point was, is it possible, since the pet doesn't have a combat log you can sync up with. |
| 19:58.19 | hyperChipmunk | ? |
| 19:58.41 | hyperChipmunk | my pet does damage |
| 19:58.45 | hyperChipmunk | i can see the damage my pet does |
| 19:58.52 | hyperChipmunk | i can see the spells he casts |
| 19:58.58 | hyperChipmunk | i just need to send the damage in his name |
| 19:59.01 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: No pet facilities right now. I think it'll just be an extra module that gets loaded if the player is a hunter or warlock, and the player watches and reports their threat. |
| 19:59.19 | Antiarc | Right, what you said. |
| 19:59.43 | Stephmw | Antiarc: ... or is any other class that can get a pet (shamans, mages, $random+quest) |
| 20:00.00 | Antiarc | Hm. Maybe a generic pet module is needed. |
| 20:00.08 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: that's what i was preparing |
| 20:00.14 | Antiarc | Good stuff then. |
| 20:00.30 | hyperChipmunk | i can do one with its own event handling |
| 20:00.44 | hyperChipmunk | i was just wondering if you had some facilities built-in |
| 20:00.45 | Tornhoof | i actually don't know the exact totem aggro handling tbh |
| 20:00.57 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37460 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: - Commented out redundant buff update code on buff lost event (it was calculated and added, then reset and recalculated) |
| 20:01.10 | hyperChipmunk | i mean, my pet IS my tank |
| 20:01.19 | hyperChipmunk | he's friggin important |
| 20:01.30 | kenlyric|home | a threat meter for a pet would be awesome. |
| 20:01.44 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: Make sure misdirection still works, I left in the fade event but commented out the calc |
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| 20:02.25 | hyperChipmunk | but right now, even when misdirecting to pet, he doesn't get a bar |
| 20:02.35 | Antiarc | Yeah, the pet isn't "reporting" any threat |
| 20:02.38 | Antiarc | So no bar will show up. |
| 20:03.48 | sdouble | KTM tracked pet aggro. I found that incredibly useful. |
| 20:03.49 | Chompers | Antiarc: i was thinking, it would be great to have seperate threat frames for user-assigned players |
| 20:04.02 | Chompers | for when there are 2 targets being tanked by 2 seperate tanks |
| 20:04.05 | Antiarc | Chompers: That'd be beyond trivial :) |
| 20:04.10 | Chompers | maybe an idea for the future |
| 20:04.14 | hyperChipmunk | Gagorian: seems to work; i've just got my pet, but the threat stops accumulating for me when m/d goes on and resumes when it's off |
| 20:04.16 | Antiarc | Right now, Omen switches your threat display based on your target |
| 20:04.24 | Antiarc | But you could just have it create a second window for a second target. |
| 20:04.25 | sdouble | pet threat rather |
| 20:04.31 | Chompers | holy shit....really :o |
| 20:04.40 | Chompers | wooah |
| 20:04.42 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 20:04.49 | kenlyric|home | sdouble: i couldn't get it to it solo. |
| 20:04.54 | Antiarc | So if you have two targets being tanked, you see the threat list for the one you have targeted |
| 20:04.56 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: Mmkay, good. The implementation of buff fading is a bit weird |
| 20:05.03 | Antiarc | If you have a friendly targeted, then it shows you the threat list for THEIR target |
| 20:05.05 | Gagorian | Ideally we could remove the effect without having to recalc all |
| 20:05.13 | Antiarc | So if you're a healer healing the MT, then you see the threat list for the MT's target |
| 20:05.30 | hyperChipmunk | unless they have the same name =) |
| 20:05.43 | Antiarc | Yes , if they have the same name, they share a threat pool |
| 20:05.48 | Antiarc | Not much to do about that, I'm afraid. |
| 20:05.54 | hyperChipmunk | can you check for raid icons |
| 20:06.02 | hyperChipmunk | make that override |
| 20:06.02 | Antiarc | No, there's no raid icon data in chat messages |
| 20:06.18 | hyperChipmunk | good point |
| 20:06.19 | Chompers | Antiarc, if you ever finish this, its going to be amazing |
| 20:06.26 | Gagorian | Ofc it's going to be finished |
| 20:06.26 | Gagorian | ! |
| 20:06.33 | Antiarc | Chompers: It's already 95% of the way there. |
| 20:06.36 | hyperChipmunk | wtb eq-style a_fire_beetle14 |
| 20:06.39 | Gagorian | If Antiarc dies there will be always someone to take his place |
| 20:06.41 | Chompers | just threat modules i guess? |
| 20:06.43 | Gagorian | Cause this project is awesome |
| 20:06.49 | Killmore | hahaha |
| 20:06.51 | Antiarc | And NPC modules |
| 20:07.04 | Antiarc | But yes, this project will be finished - there are a ton of people working on it |
| 20:07.09 | kenlyric|home | ck like it just to piss off ktm's author, so you know he'll keep up on it :) |
| 20:07.15 | hyperChipmunk | ...and local 'text' on line 24 /P |
| 20:07.19 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 20:07.38 | ckknight | all my projects are reactionary |
| 20:07.39 | Chompers | i cant wait :D |
| 20:07.55 | Gagorian | Warlock module is already more accurate then KTM ever was |
| 20:08.34 | hyperChipmunk | hunter module is provably accurate, too |
| 20:09.00 | kenlyric|home | are the modules usable by anything yet? |
| 20:09.37 | Gagorian | Antiarc: What do you think about not having to recalculate all buffs on player on each buff gained/lost event? We could probably settle with recalcing only the change. |
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| 20:10.08 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37461 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/credits.txt: Threat-1.0: Updated credits from latest commit logs. |
| 20:10.36 | Killmore | the priest module is very accurate |
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| 20:10.48 | Antiarc | Gagorian: I'm fine with that. I did a full scan because it's not too expensive and I wanted to be sure I didn't miss anything. |
| 20:11.04 | Antiarc | ie, make it work, then optimize :) |
| 20:11.08 | kenlyric|home | i'd never know if they are arcurrate. |
| 20:11.09 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Yeah it's 'safer' |
| 20:11.14 | Antiarc | The rogue module is dead-on |
| 20:11.15 | kenlyric|home | accurate. |
| 20:11.22 | Antiarc | The warrior module is close, but warrior threat is extremely complex. |
| 20:11.39 | kenlyric|home | which is obvious by the number of warriors who suck at it... |
| 20:11.41 | Antiarc | 10 people have committed to the SVN repo |
| 20:11.51 | Antiarc | So yeah, there's plenty of steam for this project :) |
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| 20:12.47 | kenlyric|home | steam if we're lucky. |
| 20:13.19 | kenlyric|home | nice, aspect of the cheetah no longer gets turned off when you get hi. |
| 20:13.22 | kenlyric|home | hit |
| 20:13.23 | art3mis | man i love the people of craigslist |
| 20:14.05 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r37462 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warrior.lua: |
| 20:14.05 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 20:14.05 | CIA-22 | - added shieldbash rank 4 (Level 64) |
| 20:14.05 | CIA-22 | - added cleave rank 6 (Level 68) |
| 20:14.06 | CIA-22 | - added heroic strike rank 11 (not in game yet) |
| 20:14.06 | CIA-22 | - changed some threat values to fit Lavinas "Threat & Warrior Tanking Guide" on http://forums.wow-europe.com/ |
| 20:14.26 | kenlyric|home | not in game yet? o.O |
| 20:14.27 | art3mis | someguyw ants to trade is "4month old psp with case 4 games and a 1gb stick" for "a wii, ps3 20g or 60g, xbox360 premium, a laptop or a p4/amd dualcore PC" |
| 20:14.51 | art3mis | because he paid "$323" for it |
| 20:15.14 | ckknight | ...no |
| 20:15.17 | Gandharva | kenlyric|home: http://www.thottbot.com/s30324 |
| 20:15.23 | ckknight | resale value doesn't work that way. |
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| 20:15.47 | kenlyric|home | besides, a wii and ps3 don't have near the same value. |
| 20:15.54 | art3mis | ya think? |
| 20:16.19 | art3mis | even if he spent that yesterday thats stil not even close to being of the same price of anything he wants to trade |
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| 20:16.36 | art3mis | such confused people |
| 20:16.42 | kenlyric|home | he's like those stupid people who trade primal earths for primal waters on a 1to1 basis :) |
| 20:17.13 | art3mis | hehe im guessing somehwere in his brain it makes sense that ps3's wii's and xb360's would go down in price but his wouldnt |
| 20:17.58 | kenlyric|home | running to hammerfal at level 20 should be fun. |
| 20:18.11 | Gandharva | I get the primal water :) |
| 20:18.34 | kenlyric|home | I should just buy the stupid first aid book on the AH.. |
| 20:19.39 | hyperChipmunk | Threat-1.0-37460 (Threat-1.0):24: attempt to index local 'text' (a nil value) |
| 20:19.42 | hyperChipmunk | : Threat-1.0-37460 (Threat-1.0):24: attempt to index local 'text' (a number value) |
| 20:19.47 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 20:19.52 | hyperChipmunk | it's anything BUT a table |
| 20:19.56 | Iceroth | like, http://ace.pastey.net/43100 |
| 20:20.07 | hyperChipmunk | and it's definitely not text, eithe |
| 20:20.22 | hyperChipmunk | #1 worst variable of all time |
| 20:20.49 | kergoth | kenlyric|home, aspect of the cheetah no longer gets turned off when you get hit <-is that good? |
| 20:21.06 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37463 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warrior.lua: |
| 20:21.06 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Demo shout needs demo shout numbers rather than Battle Shout numbers. |
| 20:21.06 | CIA-22 | - TODO: Add Commanding Shout threat? |
| 20:21.07 | kenlyric|home | no, not really. |
| 20:21.36 | nevcairiel | hyperChipmunk: its supposed to be a text .. and just that .. might add some safety checks there :P |
| 20:21.37 | kenlyric|home | i guess it depends on the situation. |
| 20:21.42 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r37464 10Baggins/ (Baggins.lua Textures/compressbutton.tga): |
| 20:21.42 | CIA-22 | Baggins: |
| 20:21.42 | CIA-22 | - Add compression (re-stacking) of inventory & bank |
| 20:21.42 | CIA-22 | - Notify via clickable icon appearing in top right corner of bags as necessary |
| 20:21.57 | hyperChipmunk | oh rock on |
| 20:21.58 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.03 | kenlyric|home | my situation is, I want to keep running away and not be dazed. |
| 20:22.08 | sbu | hmhm |
| 20:22.14 | nevcairiel | that error was bugging me, but since i am raiding, i just turned threat off :P |
| 20:22.24 | sbu | Antiarc: assuming that KTM is correct i have some wrong values for priest spells ;p |
| 20:23.03 | Gandharva | Antiarc: self.CastHandlers[BS["Commanding Shout"]] = function() self:AddThreat(68) end |
| 20:23.05 | sbu | holy fire ~1000 vs. ~1400 |
| 20:23.08 | Gandharva | It's in |
| 20:23.34 | Antiarc | Doh. Hahaha. |
| 20:23.39 | Killmore | sbu: type /console reloadui .. happen some time that silentresolve doesnt work :\ |
| 20:23.51 | sbu | Killmore: uhm... ok!? :p |
| 20:23.59 | Killmore | try it,, dont understand |
| 20:24.02 | Antiarc | Ooh. Are talents not available at the time that the modules are getting loaded? |
| 20:24.05 | Antiarc | That'd explain it |
| 20:24.10 | Antiarc | I could delay load till the addon is loaded |
| 20:24.17 | nevcairiel | good idea |
| 20:24.25 | nevcairiel | put module loading in OnEnable |
| 20:24.26 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 20:24.34 | Killmore | I tried to tell it to Antiarc but I think he didnt get the mssage |
| 20:24.43 | Antiarc | Hm, it is in OnEnable... |
| 20:25.19 | Antiarc | When does talent data become available? |
| 20:25.20 | sbu | hm correct, its silent resolve |
| 20:25.33 | hyperChipmunk | aceevent onfullyinitialized |
| 20:25.36 | Antiarc | sbu: Did a reload fix it? |
| 20:25.46 | sbu | didnt try, wait plz |
| 20:25.49 | Antiarc | Okay |
| 20:26.50 | sbu | Antiarc: yup[ |
| 20:27.00 | Antiarc | Ok, thank you. |
| 20:27.05 | sbu | same numbers as ktm after reloadui |
| 20:27.22 | sbu | (and lower than the dmg value, so i think its correct) |
| 20:31.29 | Antiarc | Hm. Looks like each module's OnEnable is called when you create the module. |
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| 20:35.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37465 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 20:35.18 | CIA-22 | Parser-3.0 - move some things around. |
| 20:35.18 | CIA-22 | - added fields eventTypeLocal, attributeLocal, damageTypeLocal, hazardTypeLocal. |
| 20:36.03 | kergoth | vhaarr, simplechatmods channelnames needs fixing. the behavior is non-deterministic. the replacements of LD/WD/GEN have to happen before the catchall replacement, otherwise those replacements won't succeed, but your regexps table is unordered. |
| 20:36.33 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r37466 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warrior.lua: Threat-1.0: Mocking Blow (removed duplicate entry) |
| 20:36.47 | kenlyric|home | holy god, expert first aid isn't even sold at hammerfall. I probably should have looked that up. |
| 20:36.59 | kergoth | kenlyric|home, dustwallow marsh. |
| 20:37.21 | kenlyric|home | man, that's a lot worse than the alliance location. |
| 20:37.42 | kergoth | ? it's easy and relatively quick to get to dustwallow from camp t |
| 20:37.58 | TecnoBrat | ckknight, don't know if you have already seen / fixed this. Someone reported SCT acting strange since some of your changes to Parser .. it was chopping off spell names, showing "(+500) Holy" instead of "(+500) Holy Nova", etc (I'm at work, so I can't verify/test this, it was just mentioned in irc a couple hours back) |
| 20:38.12 | kenlyric|home | kergoth, aren't the mobs in the high 30s? |
| 20:38.51 | kergoth | mid to high, but if you stick to the path you should be fine |
| 20:39.05 | kergoth | where's the alliance one? |
| 20:39.30 | kenlyric|home | stormgarde. |
| 20:39.38 | kenlyric|home | so, low 30s for the mobs. |
| 20:41.57 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: you need to add Kenco to your credits, for without his total jerktardedness, this project would never have gotten off the ground |
| 20:42.00 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37467 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: Change to make sure class modules are loaded after talents are available. |
| 20:42.12 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: I'm trying really hard to not poke things with sticks :) |
| 20:42.14 | Killmore | w00t! |
| 20:42.35 | hyperChipmunk | that's more of a sharp knife, but ok |
| 20:43.07 | Antiarc | I could put "thanks for inspiration" >_> |
| 20:43.34 | nevcairiel | i hate it when you dont get a clear debugstack on errors .. brr |
| 20:43.36 | TecnoBrat | "Thank you Kenco for creating an addon that uses a ton of resources when I am idling doing nothing and giving me the motivation required to create this much better version of your addon" ?? |
| 20:43.43 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 20:44.23 | kenlyric|home | it's important to add that he was a jerkass about that idle usage. |
| 20:44.28 | hyperChipmunk | bug stack bay-ay-bee |
| 20:44.51 | hyperChipmunk | yea, most of your additional-author support is a direct result of that |
| 20:45.01 | hyperChipmunk | it's a powerful motivator |
| 20:45.42 | Kalman| | "Thank you Kenco for refusing to admit your faults and inspiring me to create a more efficient version of your addon out of spite."? |
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| 20:46.36 | Antiarc | More efficient, more accurate, more usable, multi-target version of your addon :eng101: |
| 20:47.10 | jwwpua | which addon? |
| 20:47.13 | Kalman| | Heh. So, threat *display* is via Omen, or? |
| 20:47.19 | hyperChipmunk | ya |
| 20:47.23 | nevcairiel | via omen or violation |
| 20:47.24 | f0zle | how do you set recount to only count inn people in raid/party |
| 20:47.28 | f0zle | and how do you increase it's range? |
| 20:47.35 | Kalman| | f0zle: Features not yet implemented. |
| 20:47.37 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Yes |
| 20:47.46 | Antiarc | Threat-1.0 is a threat-tracking library |
| 20:47.57 | Antiarc | So any addon can implement a threat display |
| 20:48.30 | hyperChipmunk | Cartographer_ThreatPlotter |
| 20:48.32 | snurre | i guess bigwigs or oRA could implement threat warnings :p |
| 20:48.38 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37468 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Rogue.lua: Threat-1.0: Added Anesthetic Poison |
| 20:48.50 | snurre | "omg you noobed! youre at 90% threat, so calm down!" |
| 20:49.07 | TecnoBrat | you mean like the ktm fubar plugin? |
| 20:49.22 | TecnoBrat | "Are you doing anything?!?" |
| 20:50.27 | Antiarc | Does anyone know if energy gains actually do cause 5 threat/energy? |
| 20:50.34 | Antiarc | Like, combat potency procs |
| 20:50.41 | snurre | they do |
| 20:50.48 | Kalman| | Not sure if it's been tested for CP, Antiarc. |
| 20:50.52 | TecnoBrat | My favourite is ... "Bad Doggy!" |
| 20:50.56 | snurre | shield spec, unbridled wrath, combat potency |
| 20:51.11 | snurre | err |
| 20:51.14 | f0zle | so there's an Ace2 threatmeter now =D? that's less inaccurate than KLHT |
| 20:51.14 | snurre | no, energy dont |
| 20:51.18 | snurre | *tired* |
| 20:51.30 | Antiarc | f0zle: In the works, yes |
| 20:51.48 | f0zle | very very nice |
| 20:52.01 | f0zle | i might finally convince certain moron officers in my guild to use it then |
| 20:52.29 | f0zle | a mod i'd like to see is a mod that will let you see the whole casting story of every member in a raid for a fight, and also a DPS graph for each member, to disect spell rotations etc |
| 20:52.53 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r37469 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Small tweak |
| 20:53.07 | Antiarc | f0zle: /combatlog and WoW Web Stats |
| 20:53.17 | TecnoBrat | f0zle, swstats gives you a GUI for the combat log ... can filter by name of source, target, etc etc |
| 20:53.25 | TecnoBrat | its quite nice |
| 20:53.26 | Kalman| | Antiarc: installing Omen via WAU noext doesn't seem to pull down Threat. |
| 20:53.32 | TecnoBrat | you can see how your tank died, easily |
| 20:53.40 | f0zle | oh |
| 20:53.42 | f0zle | how do you open that? |
| 20:53.49 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Well, it wouldn't with noext :) |
| 20:54.07 | TecnoBrat | uhhh /slg? ... something like that ... |
| 20:54.20 | Antiarc | Fun fact - I just used my first two Anesthetic Poisons since BC came out |
| 20:54.24 | Kalman| | Doesn't pull down the library, though; shouldn't it? |
| 20:54.39 | Antiarc | Only if you're installing with externals, since the lib is an external. |
| 20:54.44 | TecnoBrat | f0zle, /swl |
| 20:54.55 | Antiarc | Just install Threat-1.0 separately if you're doing noext |
| 20:54.58 | TecnoBrat | you must have SW_UniLog .. comes with the new version |
| 20:55.26 | Kalman| | Hm. Maybe I don't understand noext then; shouldn't noext pull down library instances for required libraries, but not as embedded? |
| 20:55.52 | Antiarc | I was under the impression that it just just pulled down the mod and left you to install the necessary libraries. |
| 20:55.54 | Antiarc | I may be wrong though |
| 20:56.05 | jwwpua | ...nterface\AddOns\Parser-3.0\Parser-3.0\Parser-3.0.lua line 4271: attempt to call global 'ConfigureAceLocale22' (a nil value) |
| 20:56.06 | f0zle | thx tecno |
| 20:56.18 | jwwpua | this happened after running the updater |
| 20:56.25 | ckknight | jwwpua: on it |
| 20:56.33 | kenlyric|home | pretty sure noext means noext. |
| 20:56.40 | jwwpua | ckknight: aight cool |
| 20:57.16 | art3mis | http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=35660&bw= |
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| 20:57.26 | ckknight | jwwpua: v--- |
| 20:57.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37470 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - bugfix |
| 20:57.58 | Kalman| | kenlyric: I don't mean noext on files, I mean WAU's noext mode. Again, I could be wrong. |
| 20:58.00 | art3mis | k that link rules |
| 20:58.16 | todd | heh.. wow won't even open for me.. keeps crashing as soon as I log in =( |
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| 20:58.43 | Chompers | any tips for nightbane? |
| 20:58.47 | Chompers | we're about to try him out |
| 20:58.49 | evl | dps! |
| 20:58.49 | Toufas | any ace2 version of an addon similar to move anything? |
| 20:58.51 | evl | :D |
| 20:58.54 | Antiarc | Bring Skill Ward |
| 20:59.02 | CIA-22 | 03solor * r37471 10simpleMinimap/ (simpleMinimap.lua simpleMinimap.toc): |
| 20:59.02 | CIA-22 | simpleMinimap: |
| 20:59.02 | CIA-22 | - toc 20100, possible fix for stacking of frames |
| 20:59.08 | Antiarc | Fear Ward makes that fight a billion times easier |
| 20:59.15 | Kalman| | He's pretty easy if your tank can dance. |
| 20:59.31 | Antiarc | Assist train the skellies, don't let people just run around doing their own thing |
| 20:59.40 | sbu | nightbane is pretty easy now with 2.5s fear cast time |
| 20:59.42 | Antiarc | And I think the rain of bones now just falls in a static area after 2.1, so just move out of it |
| 20:59.44 | Kalman| | Don't let your mages AoE. |
| 20:59.45 | kenlyric|home | fear ward is nice also for those that can't dance. |
| 20:59.57 | Kalman| | It'll end badly. |
| 21:00.05 | kenlyric|home | heh. |
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| 21:00.09 | Kalman| | Where by badly I mean a 19 minute Nightbane kill. |
| 21:00.12 | kenlyric|home | most people learned that lesson on nefarian :) |
| 21:00.21 | Kalman| | Hey, he died! |
| 21:00.37 | kenlyric|home | we had our mages aoe... once |
| 21:00.38 | Tornhoof | horde learned that lesson on nefarian |
| 21:00.43 | Tornhoof | alliance still does not know it |
| 21:01.07 | Chompers | we only have one tank, is that a problem? |
| 21:01.09 | TecnoBrat | kenlyric|home, phase 1 or 3? |
| 21:01.09 | kenlyric|home | wut? alliance was more likely do use paladiin AOE than horde was... :)\ |
| 21:01.16 | Kalman| | One tank is fine, Chompers. |
| 21:01.19 | kenlyric|home | phase 3 |
| 21:01.23 | kenlyric|home | skellies |
| 21:01.27 | TecnoBrat | oh wtf, its easy |
| 21:01.27 | Tornhoof | i mean stance dance ken ;) |
| 21:01.29 | TecnoBrat | BoP = ftw |
| 21:01.32 | TecnoBrat | mages dont die |
| 21:01.33 | Antiarc | Alliance learned it. What we also learned is "Fear Ward is really nice for when your good tanks don't show up and you're left with clickers that take 4 sec to change stances" |
| 21:01.41 | Kalman| | Tornhoof: Most alliance guilds don't have Fear Ward. |
| 21:01.44 | Antiarc | -_- |
| 21:01.57 | Kalman| | I'm actually the only priest in my guild that does, and I hit 70 at 9 AM this morning. |
| 21:01.58 | kenlyric|home | yeah, people don't really talk about fear ward anymore. |
| 21:02.07 | TecnoBrat | we always mage AoE'd in phase 3 ... always have |
| 21:02.08 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Damn! You were 64 like yesterday! |
| 21:02.13 | Kalman| | Friday. :) |
| 21:02.15 | TecnoBrat | We just BoP 2 mages, and its easy |
| 21:02.26 | Kalman| | I decided I wanted to hit 70 this weekend. |
| 21:02.29 | Arrowmaster | we mage aoe'd in phase 3 too, and were horde |
| 21:02.51 | Gnarfoz | Kalman|: what did you do, then o_O that's fast ^^ |
| 21:02.55 | Antiarc | I think our mages used invul pots for AOE |
| 21:02.55 | jwwpua | ckknight: same error. did you update it? |
| 21:02.59 | Kalman| | Played a lot? |
| 21:03.00 | ckknight | jwwpua: yes. |
| 21:03.09 | ckknight | jwwpua: you obviously didn't, properly |
| 21:03.10 | Kalman| | I was dog-sitting this weekend, so I was kinda housebound anyway. |
| 21:03.17 | kenlyric|home | it was mostly priests cursing over TS and then "maybe pallies should get initial aggro" |
| 21:03.22 | ckknight | jwwpua: WAU uses files, which can take up to 20 minutes |
| 21:03.27 | Gnarfoz | although I remember on BC release the first 70 was from 60 to 70 saturday morning when it came out wednesday or whatever |
| 21:03.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah ours used invul pots, and our warriors except the MT all went and chalenging shouted |
| 21:04.01 | jwwpua | ckknight: would getting it from files.wowace.com be quicker? |
| 21:04.09 | ckknight | no, by definition |
| 21:04.46 | Kalman| | Gnarfoz: My first 70 was Saturday morning after release on Tuesday too. Think the fastest was around 24 hours, but it was a guild tap-grinding for one person. |
| 21:05.02 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:05.21 | kenlyric|home | it's always amazing to me how complicated some fights can seem when you first start them, and how simple they seem once you've mastered them. |
| 21:05.32 | Elkano_ | 28h iirc |
| 21:05.45 | Kalman| | 24, 28, still absurd. :p |
| 21:05.51 | Gnarfoz | that was M...something, french guild |
| 21:05.51 | Elkano_ | yes ^^ |
| 21:06.33 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 21:06.34 | Gnarfoz | google ftw |
| 21:06.34 | Gnarfoz | http://www.blizzardguides.com/images/first_70.jpg |
| 21:06.46 | TecnoBrat | ckknight, did you see my message about 10 mins ago? |
| 21:06.50 | ckknight | no |
| 21:06.51 | Gnarfoz | Millenium ^^ |
| 21:06.52 | Boubouille | Millenium |
| 21:06.59 | TecnoBrat | ckknight, don't know if you have already seen / fixed this. Someone reported SCT acting strange since some of your changes to Parser .. it was chopping off spell names, showing "(+500) Holy" instead of "(+500) Holy Nova", etc (I'm at work, so I can't verify/test this, it was just mentioned in irc a couple hours back) |
| 21:07.17 | TecnoBrat | message history ftw :) |
| 21:07.18 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:07.20 | Gnarfoz | love how they are all in netherstorm but would get owned by the mobs there, seeing that they are level 62 xD |
| 21:07.36 | Killmore | I'm a french canadian (thats why my english is bad) and read thing in french in wow.. always make me laugh! |
| 21:07.45 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Did_it_for_the_lulz_%28Ravencrest_EU%29 <-woot my guild is on a wiki!1 |
| 21:08.00 | TecnoBrat | can anyone confirm that sct is indeed chopping off spellnames? |
| 21:08.06 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: it's not like you couldn't have done that yourself :D |
| 21:08.08 | Killmore | the way blizzard translate skill, gear.. omg |
| 21:08.23 | Fisker- | nahuh Gnarfoz |
| 21:08.25 | Arrowmaster | wtf Parser-3.0-37470 (Parser-3.0):1250: attempt to index global 'parser' (a nil value) |
| 21:08.45 | TecnoBrat | Leialyn, ping? |
| 21:08.58 | Antiarc | Anyone with a 70 mage here? |
| 21:08.58 | Leialyn | TecnoBrat, yes` |
| 21:09.01 | Arrowmaster | being spamed with that and similiar errors |
| 21:09.12 | Leialyn | kinda Antiarc |
| 21:09.12 | TecnoBrat | Leialyn, is SCT still chopping spellnames? |
| 21:09.21 | Antiarc | Leialyn: I just need info on Invis |
| 21:09.27 | Antiarc | What's the combat log look like when you use it? |
| 21:09.29 | Gnarfoz | Killmore: don't worry though, German WoW sucks at least as much, translation wise :D |
| 21:09.52 | Killmore | Gnarfoz: oh :P |
| 21:09.54 | Chompers | summoning nightbane :S |
| 21:09.55 | Toufas | why prat has myname:1 when i speak ? :S |
| 21:09.57 | Chompers | we're going to dieeee |
| 21:10.11 | Gnarfoz | Killmore: they follow the same paradigm: localize _everything_ |
| 21:10.15 | Gandharva | Antiarc: Thunderfury proc now is: 219 + (100 / # of mobs afflicted up to 5) |
| 21:10.33 | TecnoBrat | Gandharva, woot, just tested? |
| 21:10.36 | Leialyn | almost no time to test or get your info, raiding atm |
| 21:10.36 | Antiarc | We'll just assume 319 for now, I think. |
| 21:10.40 | jwwpua | ckknight: ok WAU updated, thanks |
| 21:10.41 | Antiarc | Okay. |
| 21:10.46 | Kalman| | Antiarc: I have a 70 mage. |
| 21:10.50 | Gnarfoz | sadly, they didn't do that right at the beginning, but translated it as time went by, so that even if you played german (or french, should be the same thing) WoW back when EU WoW launched, you'd know places by their english names |
| 21:11.01 | Antiarc | Kalman|: What's the combat log look like when you invis? Do you get a message for each pulse? |
| 21:11.14 | Toufas | and why atlasloot insists of having an icon in my minimap |
| 21:11.15 | Kalman| | Pretty sure you do not, but lemme check real quick. |
| 21:11.21 | ckknight | jwwpua: ah, it's still broken |
| 21:11.28 | Gandharva | someone at elitistjerks tested it and came up with this values |
| 21:11.30 | Leialyn | nope Antiarc, you don't |
| 21:11.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37472 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - typo |
| 21:11.44 | TecnoBrat | Gandharva, as of when? it was changed in 2.0 |
| 21:11.57 | jwwpua | ckknight: yeah just now got ...nterface\AddOns\Parser-3.0\Parser-3.0\Parser-3.0.lua line 1874: attempt to index global 'parser' (a nil value) |
| 21:11.59 | Killmore | Gandharva: give me the link plz |
| 21:12.02 | Gandharva | 03/01/07 |
| 21:12.04 | ckknight | jwwpua: and I fixed it |
| 21:12.12 | Fisker- | btw Gnarfoz it was updated :D |
| 21:12.13 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Did_it_for_the_lulz_%28Ravencrest_EU%29 |
| 21:12.16 | Gandharva | http://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php?p=295993&postcount=96 |
| 21:12.19 | jwwpua | heh |
| 21:12.44 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: heh |
| 21:13.07 | TecnoBrat | Gandharva, it was changed 04/3/2007 |
| 21:13.08 | Antiarc | Ok, so I need to detect buff gain, buff loss, and then subtract (loss time - gain time in seconds) / 5 * 1 |
| 21:13.09 | jwwpua | ckknight: so it can take 20 minutes for WAU to update latest changes? |
| 21:13.12 | TecnoBrat | thats april 3 |
| 21:13.17 | ckknight | jwwpua: yes |
| 21:13.33 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnLN6zHp3R0 <- beware, turn down your speakers before clicking :P |
| 21:13.41 | Toufas | fisker that guild should be hanged for not obeying the rules of the internet |
| 21:13.51 | hyperChipmunk | agreed |
| 21:13.54 | hyperChipmunk | just killed my ears |
| 21:14.01 | Gandharva | did they change it twice? |
| 21:14.07 | jwwpua | ckknight: should I have "skipsvnworkingcopies" true or false? |
| 21:14.15 | TecnoBrat | oh, nm, I lie .. it was changed March 6th |
| 21:14.15 | ckknight | I don't know |
| 21:14.28 | Mikk | jwwpua: doesn't matter if you don't check out stuff via svn |
| 21:15.07 | Mikk | if you don't know what SVN is, the answer is still "doesn't matter" |
| 21:15.25 | Gandharva | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.25 | jwwpua | lol |
| 21:15.27 | jwwpua | kk thanks |
| 21:15.50 | Fisker- | hehe it obeyed the rules of the internet Toufas :( |
| 21:15.52 | todd | anyone else having problems with wow crashing upon login? happened since I updated my ace addons today |
| 21:15.53 | Gandharva | I think he tested on PTR |
| 21:15.55 | Adirelle | vhaarr: I would to put DamageMeters comm parsing into its own file, but it's quite annoying as I can't make it a Violation module |
| 21:16.05 | Fisker- | haha |
| 21:16.07 | Antiarc | Is there a Babble module that contains all the damage type translations? (Holy, Fire, Frost, etc) |
| 21:16.07 | Toufas | fisker, no |
| 21:16.08 | Fisker- | should put that on the page instead |
| 21:16.33 | Toufas | it obeyed it, but broke it for trying to be funny within the rules :p |
| 21:16.37 | vhaarr | Adirelle: hm |
| 21:16.44 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_052807_231317.jpg |
| 21:16.46 | vhaarr | Adirelle: Why is that annoying? |
| 21:16.46 | Fisker- | my new guild! |
| 21:17.06 | Adirelle | vhaarr: I would like it to enable/disable with Violation... |
| 21:17.28 | Adirelle | vhaarr: it just need AceComm support and access to Violation modules |
| 21:17.34 | ckknight | Fisker-: you're a lulzmaster, grats |
| 21:17.50 | Adirelle | vhaarr: but I'm not feel happy to embed it into the core |
| 21:18.06 | Adirelle | s/i'm not feel/i'm not feeling/ |
| 21:18.13 | Toufas | fisker why you have durotar quests ?:P |
| 21:18.16 | vhaarr | Adirelle: do that for now |
| 21:18.26 | *** join/#wowace vid` (i=user@c-68-36-197-141.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 21:18.27 | Adirelle | vhaarr: as you want |
| 21:18.29 | vhaarr | Adirelle: we're going to modularize it later |
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| 21:19.32 | Gandharva | Antiarc: 319 is not correct. This is with defense stance + defiance. |
| 21:20.11 | Fisker- | Toufas for the lulz |
| 21:20.25 | Fisker- | (Actually i was doing rep for factions) |
| 21:20.30 | Fisker- | you get like 6k in the start areas |
| 21:20.31 | Adirelle | err... just thought that DM messages aren't AceComm compatible... damn :/ |
| 21:20.33 | Fisker- | and i'm close to exalted |
| 21:21.04 | Antiarc | So 220 then |
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| 21:21.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 21:21.25 | dotted | teknub |
| 21:21.33 | Leialyn | TecnoBrat: The fix seems to work |
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| 21:22.53 | Fisker- | dotted ! |
| 21:22.55 | Fisker- | see my new guild |
| 21:22.59 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Did_it_for_the_lulz_%28Ravencrest_EU%29 |
| 21:23.00 | dotted | done |
| 21:23.27 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't that be modus operandi, anyway |
| 21:23.54 | Fisker- | i can't remember my latin that well |
| 21:24.02 | Gnarfoz | lol just watching 'old' wow movies |
| 21:26.22 | Gnarfoz | last resort vs. lurker below... guy filming (looks like raid leader) gets a whisper at 30%... 'why still fishing pole?' and then equips his Atiesh xD |
| 21:26.22 | kenlyric|home | watching our old nef video makes me cringe, it was like the one time I completely forgot to wand to regen mana. I look like such a dope in it. |
| 21:26.22 | TecnoBrat | Fisker-, damn you .... |
| 21:26.22 | TecnoBrat | I've been rickrolled ... |
| 21:26.22 | Gnarfoz | you have, indeed |
| 21:26.22 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37473 10Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: Added mage threat reduction talents. Removed Babble-SpellTree dependency. |
| 21:26.22 | TecnoBrat | I have a video on my mage from our first rag kill |
| 21:26.22 | TecnoBrat | and I did like 12% of the damage :/ |
| 21:26.23 | Fisker- | indeed TecnoBrat :D |
| 21:26.40 | Thorgard^2 | Humm. [2007/05/28 16:25:38-135-x3]: Parser-3.0-37470 (Parser-3.0):1066: attempt to index global 'parser' (a nil value) |
| 21:28.38 | ckknight | Thorgard^2: already fixed |
| 21:29.09 | Thorgard^2 | Yeah, noticed. |
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| 21:29.25 | Thorgard^2 | Updated ten minutes ago, and then again just now. :) |
| 21:29.45 | TecnoBrat | Fisker-, those were the days man .. I used to be #1 in dps by like 3% above everyone .. too bad I don't play my mage anymore |
| 21:30.14 | TecnoBrat | I was frost, stacked +dmg, and chugged mana pots |
| 21:30.27 | Fisker- | oh |
| 21:30.33 | Fisker- | mean the rickrolling part :P |
| 21:30.47 | Fisker- | with my rogue i remember being the only one able to keep up with range |
| 21:30.49 | Fisker- | ranged |
| 21:30.50 | TecnoBrat | oh that too :( |
| 21:30.57 | Fisker- | unless i got killed 4 times on him |
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| 21:31.07 | Fisker- | which i did once :( |
| 21:31.14 | Fisker- | or 3 times can't remember |
| 21:31.24 | Fisker- | that was expensive |
| 21:31.26 | TecnoBrat | I remember getting so mad at hunters |
| 21:32.35 | Fisker- | potted up each time |
| 21:32.35 | TecnoBrat | "I'm beating you by 4%, and you have pulled aggro 6 times" |
| 21:32.36 | TecnoBrat | l2doconsistentdamage |
| 21:32.36 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37474 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Mage.lua: Threat-1.0: Mage invisibility added. Completely untested (and I'm unable to) - if a mage with invis wants to test this out and debug it, I'd appreciate it! |
| 21:32.36 | Fisker- | harr :( |
| 21:32.36 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r37475 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Foglight/Foglight.lua: Cartographer: Foglight: Updated Blade's Edge Mountains map for 2.1 |
| 21:33.15 | ckknight | dammit, where's rophy when you need him? |
| 21:33.20 | ckknight | ParserLib is extremely inconsistent |
| 21:33.41 | TecnoBrat | then there was when you could stack trinkets + troll racial to give more dmg against beasts + AP .. and I crit a corehound for over 4k |
| 21:34.05 | f0zle | has the nightbane doorexploit been fixed? |
| 21:34.18 | TecnoBrat | doorexploit? |
| 21:34.24 | TecnoBrat | thats news to me, lol |
| 21:34.26 | f0zle | aye |
| 21:34.31 | Chompers | nightbane is hard :/ |
| 21:34.31 | f0zle | you could all wait outside the place |
| 21:34.39 | dodgizzla | nightbane is rocket surgery! |
| 21:34.40 | f0zle | then someone went inn |
| 21:34.43 | f0zle | got a warlock summon |
| 21:34.44 | Chompers | ah well, 5 attempts is good enough |
| 21:34.46 | f0zle | then summoned nightbane |
| 21:34.48 | f0zle | accepted summon |
| 21:34.52 | f0zle | and nightbane moved inside |
| 21:34.55 | f0zle | and moved out on phase2 |
| 21:34.57 | f0zle | you never got rain of bones |
| 21:35.04 | TecnoBrat | oh wtf, thats lame |
| 21:35.11 | TecnoBrat | l2notcheesefights |
| 21:35.17 | dodgizzla | heh, because rain of bones is so hard now (or was before the patch) :o |
| 21:35.21 | undu | Clever use of game mechanics. |
| 21:35.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37476 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - for Parser-1.1 compat, don't make the damageType lowercase |
| 21:35.24 | nevcairiel | WoWAceUpdater needs a setting to disable addon unpacking |
| 21:35.25 | TecnoBrat | thats like the prince one .. fighting him in the doorway |
| 21:35.34 | undu | Have him leash. Or put people in combat as soon as he's summoned. |
| 21:35.35 | TecnoBrat | so dumb |
| 21:35.37 | undu | Simple solutions! |
| 21:35.37 | f0zle | dodgizzla aye |
| 21:35.41 | f0zle | seems like rain of bones has changed |
| 21:35.45 | f0zle | now it feels like rain of bones doesnt move |
| 21:35.50 | dodgizzla | man I so wanna go kill Kael'Thas.. that fight looks so much fun |
| 21:35.52 | undu | Nightbane is so nerfed now anyways...... |
| 21:35.56 | Toufas | can someone tell me why with addons enabled wow crashes, with addons disabled it works fine |
| 21:36.04 | Toufas | i get error132 with the addons on |
| 21:36.10 | dodgizzla | f0zle: it does not move. it is cast to somebody on the group, but once he starts casting, it does not follow the targetted person anymore |
| 21:36.19 | Stephmw | Toufas: Addons exposing wow flaws... who'dathunkit? |
| 21:36.22 | dodgizzla | so everybody stand on the same spot and when he casts just walk forward :o |
| 21:36.25 | Chompers | he isnt neffed :O |
| 21:36.30 | Chompers | *nerfed |
| 21:36.54 | dodgizzla | though it seemed as if bigwigs timers for him to land was 10s to long :o |
| 21:37.01 | Toufas | how do i fix it though? |
| 21:37.02 | dodgizzla | but could be me on crack again :p |
| 21:37.12 | Blime | hey guys, i just made a post in the raid addons > bigwigs - karazhan forum. i seem to have come across a neat bug during the little red riding hood event. my character's name is You, and how bigwigs is handling my name for other characters is odd |
| 21:37.15 | Thorgard^2 | Toufas, start disabling addons 'til you can start the game. |
| 21:37.25 | f0zle | and |
| 21:37.32 | f0zle | has the door/summon exploit on nightbane been fixed? |
| 21:37.44 | Awaa | F0x0r, yeah |
| 21:37.46 | dodgizzla | dunno, never tried, no need for that :o |
| 21:37.59 | f0zle | was that for me Awaa ? |
| 21:38.03 | Awaa | but the nerfed kara, its much easier now |
| 21:38.11 | Arrowmaster | Blime: lol |
| 21:38.15 | Awaa | f0zle, it was =) |
| 21:38.17 | Blime | Everyone is told "You are red riding hood" through a bigwigs alert |
| 21:38.35 | Blime | the raid is well conditioned to seeing "you are this" and "you are that" through raid warnings, but this is a bigwigs issue |
| 21:38.38 | Mikk | Well, picking a name like that is obviously looking for trouble |
| 21:38.48 | Mikk | Just report your own name and get a change =p |
| 21:38.55 | Blime | yeah, looting is fun, along with emotes |
| 21:39.02 | Thorgard^2 | haha |
| 21:39.11 | Blime | You have won [item]! |
| 21:39.19 | Thorgard^2 | lawl |
| 21:39.30 | Arrowmaster | should be a simple fix though to check for "You are" and "You is" |
| 21:39.52 | TecnoBrat | "You has won [item]" |
| 21:40.06 | Arrowmaster | well really just check for "are" and "is" instead of just "You" |
| 21:40.43 | Diao | lol |
| 21:40.53 | Blime | it's just how bigwigs is displaying the message to other people |
| 21:40.55 | Diao | or any other language for that matter |
| 21:41.06 | Xuerian | Why not "You won [item]!" >_L< |
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| 21:41.49 | TecnoBrat | What should it say Blime? |
| 21:41.56 | TecnoBrat | And what is it saying instead? |
| 21:42.28 | Thorgard^2 | What's the minimum length of a player name in WoW? |
| 21:42.36 | Blime | 2 |
| 21:42.39 | Cide | 2, yep |
| 21:42.41 | Thorgard^2 | Crap. |
| 21:43.03 | Blime | It should say "you are little red riding hood" to those who are little red riding hood |
| 21:43.21 | Thorgard^2 | Mikk, if WoW ever got translated into Swedish people would have to die.. |
| 21:43.24 | Blime | if it were a raid warning, everyone would see that You is little red riding hood |
| 21:43.38 | Blime | but this is how bigwigs is handling the name, and displaying it for the whole raid |
| 21:43.42 | Blime | everyone takes off running |
| 21:43.46 | Blime | bad times |
| 21:43.52 | Fisker- | this is gonna be so funny |
| 21:43.56 | Thorgard^2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.01 | Fisker- | i'm gonna get permbanned from the forums |
| 21:44.02 | Fisker- | again |
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| 21:44.14 | TecnoBrat | Hold on ... Bigwigs is saying "You is little red riding hood" correct? |
| 21:44.23 | kenlyric|home | Fisker-: you must be so proud. |
| 21:44.26 | Blime | to the entire raid, yes |
| 21:44.28 | TecnoBrat | because .. that is right .. it broadcasts everyone .. every time. |
| 21:44.30 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:44.35 | Thorgard^2 | Fisker-, for your boyish charms and cander? |
| 21:44.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37477 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - apparently the combat log isn't always consistent with the globals for other locales for damageType, so a hack is put in to convert to the right global now. |
| 21:45.04 | TecnoBrat | If I am LRR, it broadcasts to the whole raid "Barbanus is little red riding hood" |
| 21:45.13 | TecnoBrat | its not a bug with the mod .. its doing exactly what its supposed to. |
| 21:45.24 | ckknight | TecnoBrat: did you have the SCT issues? |
| 21:45.40 | TecnoBrat | ckknight, no, Leialyn did, she said it seems to be fixed now |
| 21:45.40 | Adirelle | vhaarr: drycoded DM support : http://ace.pastey.net/43951 (only need to plug OnRawComm to CHAT_MSG_ADDON) |
| 21:45.42 | Blime | to the entire raid yes, but to an individual it shows YOu are little red riding hood |
| 21:45.45 | Fisker- | no Thorgard^2 :( |
| 21:45.51 | Fisker- | probably from rickrolling |
| 21:45.54 | ckknight | TecnoBrat: okay, I was gonna suggest testing cause I fixed it :-P |
| 21:45.55 | Mikk | Blime: "You is little red riding hood" |
| 21:46.05 | vhaarr | Adirelle: I'm leaving now, either commit parsing code or I'll take a look tomorrow |
| 21:46.19 | TecnoBrat | Blime, does it say "You *is*" or "You *are*" on the other persons screen |
| 21:46.21 | vhaarr | i.e. code that doesn't syntax error |
| 21:46.26 | Adirelle | :p |
| 21:46.26 | TecnoBrat | because if it says "You is" that is correct |
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| 21:46.41 | Blime | hmm, i believe it was are |
| 21:46.41 | Adirelle | I'll try it then, maybe commit it |
| 21:47.02 | TecnoBrat | Blime, do they get the sound notification? |
| 21:48.02 | Blime | only one of them is on vent at the moment and isn't sure |
| 21:48.04 | Mikk | They'll prolly have someone broadcasting RWs too, so "TOOT" for everything |
| 21:48.20 | Mikk | WTB [Raidwarn Noise Suppressor] |
| 21:48.23 | Blime | i'll update my forum post with what others tell me |
| 21:48.32 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r37478 10Violation/ (Healing/Healing.lua Healing/Overhealing.lua Violation.toc): Violation: Split off overhealing into separate module and file so it can be completely ignored. |
| 21:48.41 | dodgizzla | Mikk: Yeah true, if I enable BossBlock the sound should be surpressed too! :> |
| 21:48.51 | TecnoBrat | Unless they get the sound notification when you are LRRH and it says "You are", then its not a bug. |
| 21:49.04 | Blime | kk |
| 21:49.21 | TecnoBrat | its just you, needing to change your name. |
| 21:49.42 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: ping |
| 21:50.34 | ckknight | wait, Blime named his guy "You"? |
| 21:50.42 | Blime | correct |
| 21:50.47 | TecnoBrat | ckknight, yes |
| 21:50.48 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 21:50.48 | ckknight | wtf is your problem? |
| 21:50.54 | Blime | lol, long long ago |
| 21:51.18 | ckknight | yea, changeyour name. |
| 21:51.20 | Peoii | I suddenly have the urge to roll on your server with the name "Me" |
| 21:52.45 | Blime | i tried all those neat names long ago, only one avail. was You |
| 21:52.51 | Blime | it's pretty sweet |
| 21:53.22 | Toufas | pitbull is a folder with lots of folders inside, but in the main interface folder wowace creates folders like PitBull_Aura, are those needed? |
| 21:53.38 | Peoii | reminds me of a couple on my server.... rolls with the name "NotDeadYet" (warrior), and "YouDeadYet" (priest) |
| 21:53.38 | Toufas | wowacedownloader* |
| 21:53.55 | Matrix110 | wo finally found the addon that ate my itemslinks |
| 21:53.57 | Toufas | same goes for cartographer |
| 21:53.59 | Matrix110 | RS_Classcolors |
| 21:54.02 | Mikk | no, it just creates lots of folders for the hell of it |
| 21:54.10 | Mikk | just does it to piss you off |
| 21:54.11 | TecnoBrat | Blime, checking the code ... they should definately see "%s is Red Riding Hood!" and then you should see "You are Red Riding Hood!" |
| 21:54.30 | Toufas | then why there are the same name folders inside the main pitbull folder |
| 21:54.46 | Blime | okay cool. maybe they were just excited and read raid warnings. thanks techno |
| 21:55.06 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37479 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/ (Mage.lua Warrior.lua): |
| 21:55.07 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: - Fixed some tab issues in the warrior module |
| 21:55.07 | CIA-22 | - Added mage set bonus threat reductions (untested) |
| 21:55.39 | Mikk | good question. something's been misbehaving. zap all folders related to that addon and re-download via wau |
| 21:55.58 | sbu | Antiarc: ETA another 1-2 days? :p |
| 21:56.28 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37480 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.toc: Threat-1.0: Actually removed the Babble-SpellTree dependency. |
| 21:56.44 | Toufas | so the problem is with wau? |
| 21:56.46 | TecnoBrat | Blime, oh shit .. uhhh ... it probably will say "You is" haha... |
| 21:56.47 | Antiarc | sbu: It's very close. |
| 21:56.52 | Toufas | that creates extra folders? |
| 21:56.56 | Antiarc | I need to test spell transactions with channeled spells. |
| 21:57.01 | Blime | lol |
| 21:57.09 | Blime | Is this Threat-1.0 a replacement for klhthreatmeters? |
| 21:57.13 | Mikk | WAU is supposed to extract stuff from inside addons that can be made LoD and place it in their own folders |
| 21:57.16 | Thorgard^2 | Antiarc, got Threat-1.0-37468 (Threat-1.0):24: attempt to index local 'text' (a number value) on your radar? ;P |
| 21:57.21 | kergoth | Blime, Omen + Threat-1.0 is |
| 21:57.26 | Toufas | but i guess it doesnt do it |
| 21:57.28 | sbu | Antiarc: yep, noticed already... what about mob abilities? |
| 21:57.30 | Blime | omen is the framework? |
| 21:57.34 | Antiarc | sbu: No mob abilities yet. |
| 21:57.36 | TecnoBrat | if rplayer == L2["you"] then rplayer = UnitName("player") end |
| 21:57.37 | Antiarc | Omen is the GUI |
| 21:57.38 | kergoth | no, omen is the bar display |
| 21:57.39 | Toufas | and there is no fix for that? |
| 21:57.45 | sbu | which affect threat somehow (kick, disarm, ...) |
| 21:57.45 | Mikk | eh? fix? |
| 21:57.46 | Blime | sweet |
| 21:57.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37481 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - fix Parser-1.1 handling of buff and debuff types. Convert the raw strings to local constant references. |
| 21:57.51 | Antiarc | Thorgard^2: Hm, I've seen that before but I thought I fixed it |
| 21:57.54 | Mikk | moving stuff from inside the addon to new folders outside it is a good thing |
| 21:57.57 | Toufas | ah |
| 21:58.04 | Antiarc | sbu: Yeah, need to put those in. Knockback and Wing Buffet are the two biggies. |
| 21:58.22 | dotted | kergoth or violation + threat |
| 21:58.23 | Mikk | but having the same folder inside the addon and outside it at the same time suggests that something's bugged at some point |
| 21:58.25 | Toufas | if those extras are LOD, having them inside the main folder as well, nullifies that? |
| 21:58.32 | Mikk | aye |
| 21:58.35 | TecnoBrat | uhhh, so guys .. the combat log is just text right? doesnt pass unitids from source / target right? |
| 21:58.56 | Mikk | TecnoBrat: correct. just text. |
| 21:59.05 | ckknight | right, TecnoBrat |
| 21:59.07 | TecnoBrat | Blime, really no way to fix that then |
| 21:59.11 | Toufas | so i should delete the folders inside the addon and have wau make the extra folders |
| 21:59.25 | TecnoBrat | its gonna say "You gains Red Riding Hood" |
| 21:59.30 | TecnoBrat | in the combat log |
| 21:59.31 | Mikk | Toufas: best to zap all folders related to that addon and re-get with wau |
| 21:59.36 | ckknight | TecnoBrat: but sometimes it can be manipulated in such a way to guess at the right unitid, which is what Parser-3.0 does. |
| 21:59.38 | TecnoBrat | which is the same if it is you .. or you .. |
| 21:59.42 | Blime | kk cool, i'll just run off and pretend to change my char name |
| 21:59.44 | Mikk | if you still get folders both inside and outside, there's a bug in wau and needs to be reported |
| 21:59.49 | Toufas | ok |
| 21:59.50 | Toufas | let me try |
| 21:59.57 | ckknight | TecnoBrat: nope. |
| 22:00.05 | TecnoBrat | ckknight, nope? |
| 22:00.13 | ckknight | TecnoBrat: as it's two different globalstrings for self and other |
| 22:00.20 | ckknight | even if other is fed "You" |
| 22:01.15 | TecnoBrat | Ohhhh I bet you it is "You gain Red Riding Hood" vs "You gains Red Riding Hood" |
| 22:01.22 | ckknight | yep |
| 22:01.28 | ckknight | and Parser-3.0 can tell the difference |
| 22:02.14 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r37482 10Violation/ (Violation.toc libs/): Violation: libosuction corrections |
| 22:03.07 | [Ammo] | naming your character you is just silly |
| 22:03.09 | [Ammo] | kthxbye |
| 22:03.39 | kenlyric|home | who is on first. |
| 22:03.43 | Blime | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=You |
| 22:03.43 | TecnoBrat | You is |
| 22:04.01 | Thrae | TecnoBrat: The strings for "You do X damage to blah", etc. are hardcoded in GlobalStrings.lua. It doesn't use the %s substitution except for other players. |
| 22:04.03 | Matrix110 | Hunters name their pet sometimes "You" and make /rude /spit emotes in IF etc.... |
| 22:04.21 | Peoii | Named you, and a moonkin taboot? ugh |
| 22:04.29 | Antiarc | Or you could just /em spits at you. |
| 22:04.31 | Thrae | TecnoBrat: These are the Blah_Self strings in GlobalStrings.lua. |
| 22:04.35 | Toufas | mikk thanks a lot |
| 22:05.02 | TecnoBrat | Thrae, I'm looking at the trigger in TheBigBadWolf.lua, which is set to riding_trigger = "^([^%s]+) gain(.*) Red Riding Hood", |
| 22:05.26 | TecnoBrat | if it was changed to check for the s on the end of gains, it would work for our friend with the dumb name, LOL |
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| 22:06.13 | Thrae | TecnoBrat: That'll work for string.format, but not string.find. They have different regexp. |
| 22:06.39 | Saroz | same |
| 22:06.42 | Thrae | TecnoBrat: string.find("%s") == find a space, string.format("%s") == include a string |
| 22:06.49 | Toufas | whats that name of the detailed error frame addon? |
| 22:06.54 | TecnoBrat | haha, he should change his name :P |
| 22:07.05 | TecnoBrat | You is reportable, I'm sure. |
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| 22:07.20 | Thrae | You could name your pet "You", what's wrong with that? |
| 22:07.32 | Blime | oh, i've been around awhile, nobody says anything |
| 22:07.35 | Thrae | Pets can even have invalid characters like & |
| 22:07.39 | TecnoBrat | actually I think its a reserved name now |
| 22:07.53 | Thrae | I think Pets are still fair game to be called anything |
| 22:07.56 | Blime | i'll just slap my raid around awhile... they'll learn to like the LRRH event |
| 22:08.00 | TecnoBrat | I don't think you could create a character named "You" if you wanted to |
| 22:08.07 | Thrae | TecnoBrat: Not characters, but pets |
| 22:08.22 | TecnoBrat | Can't create a pet called "MrWhatever" |
| 22:08.37 | TecnoBrat | There are *some* rules |
| 22:08.44 | TecnoBrat | (Trust me, I've tried, lol) |
| 22:08.57 | Thrae | TecnoBrat: Last time I checked, pet names keep capitalization |
| 22:09.06 | TecnoBrat | They do |
| 22:09.10 | Thorgard^2 | I usually name my pet after the guild leader. |
| 22:09.16 | TecnoBrat | But they dont allow you to prefix with "Mr" |
| 22:09.17 | Thrae | So you could call it MrWhatever :D |
| 22:09.27 | Peoii | imho, the best way to name your pet is simply yourname+1 |
| 22:09.35 | Peoii | like my hunter is Vesto, pet name is Vestoo |
| 22:09.38 | Thrae | Well, maybe you can't for girl pets! |
| 22:09.52 | Thrae | Peoii: Just name it LeeroyJenkins. |
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| 22:09.59 | Peoii | eh |
| 22:10.06 | Peoii | to old, to boring ;) |
| 22:10.19 | Thrae | Name it Emonix! |
| 22:10.20 | Peoii | Though CatFart was a great puller. |
| 22:10.46 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:10.56 | Thrae | Or "Building", "Sidewalk", "Grass", "Thorns", "LightningShield" |
| 22:11.26 | Peoii | oh our hunters used to screw with the druids with that too... |
| 22:11.43 | Thrae | ckknight: The reason ParserLib is inconsistent is because there are rare causes where Self events fire for people other then yourself, especially with pets. |
| 22:11.45 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r37483 10sRaidFrames/localization.deDE.lua: sRaidFrames: deDE Update |
| 22:11.48 | Peoii | they'd name their pet a priest's name, so their pet would get the innervate instead of the priest. |
| 22:12.31 | ckknight | Thrae: different situation, I was referring to damageTypes, but I figured it out now |
| 22:12.46 | Mikk | We had two hunters naming their pets after one another. One pet is now named "WantsLootToo" and the other one "BoE". |
| 22:13.09 | Thrae | ckknight: And some other localizations are inconsistent, where the word for "player" or even "You" might change such that it is not an invalid word to create a character with. English Client rules don't fly well in foreign clients. |
| 22:13.11 | Mikk | One hunter is named "Bop" btw |
| 22:13.54 | ckknight | Thrae: that was fixed a long, long time ago in Parser-3.0 |
| 22:13.57 | Thrae | ckknight: Hence why Rophy uses a number for Self, since that way you know it's really the "player" unit (according to ParserLib) |
| 22:13.57 | Gagorian | ckknight: Is the damage from extra attacks supplied to EventType "Damage" and "Extra Attack" in Parser? |
| 22:13.59 | ckknight | like when I first made it |
| 22:14.15 | Thrae | I don't see how that is "fixing" it, rophy's method worked fine. |
| 22:14.34 | ckknight | Thrae: and Parser-3.0's is consistent all the way through |
| 22:14.46 | ckknight | Gagorian: damage is handled by Damage. Extra Attack only says how many extra attacks you get |
| 22:15.14 | ckknight | Thrae: I don't know why you have your panties in a knot, the situation I was dealing with is completely separate from the one you're describing |
| 22:15.21 | Gagorian | ckknight: kk. |
| 22:16.07 | Thrae | How is my "panties in a knot"? I worked on ParserLib at one time, I was just trying to inform you of how it works. |
| 22:16.17 | TecnoBrat | Fricken blizz needs to make PoM and Lifebloom show up in the combat log as being from the person who cast it |
| 22:16.29 | TecnoBrat | as it is now .. I'm not sure who gets the threat from a LB proc |
| 22:16.47 | Gagorian | The target does I believe |
| 22:16.50 | hyperChipmunk | the person it's on |
| 22:16.51 | Gagorian | like earth shield and PoM |
| 22:17.06 | ckknight | Thrae: I know how it works |
| 22:17.19 | cr4zyd | [2007/05/28 17:14:19-424-x1]: Parser-3.0\Parser-3.0.lua:3873: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 3871) near 'isBuff' |
| 22:17.20 | Gagorian | TecnoBrat: Which in many cases is a good thing :) |
| 22:17.22 | *** join/#wowace sergio (i=sp@unaffiliated/sergio) |
| 22:17.29 | cr4zyd | when i logged in with the latest revision |
| 22:17.32 | ckknight | cr4zyd: whoops |
| 22:17.49 | ckknight | cr4zyd: missing comma |
| 22:17.49 | Thrae | Sorry, when you said you wanted rophy to explain something to you, I was just trying to be helpful. |
| 22:17.54 | cr4zyd | lol |
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| 22:18.34 | kergoth | wtf |
| 22:18.37 | kergoth | my /1 is AceComm |
| 22:18.38 | ckknight | although I appreciate your goodwill, the situation I was dealing with was completely separate from the one you were describing |
| 22:18.44 | ckknight | kergoth: wtf, mate? |
| 22:18.56 | TecnoBrat | kergoth, I hate that |
| 22:19.11 | ckknight | kergoth: shouldn't be like that, it should join after all other channels have joined.. |
| 22:19.13 | Thrae | Yes, but I don't see how that makes me "have my panties in a knot". |
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| 22:19.53 | ckknight | the way you were describing the situation, e.g. <Thrae> I don't see how that is "fixing" it, rophy's method worked fine. |
| 22:19.54 | Thorgard^2 | Probably due to the quotation marks. ;P |
| 22:19.55 | ckknight | whatever |
| 22:19.58 | ckknight | situation is ended anyway |
| 22:20.09 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.18 | kergoth | pfft, stupid copy/paste including \n |
| 22:21.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37484 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 22:21.38 | CIA-22 | Parser-3.0 - add missing typo. |
| 22:21.38 | CIA-22 | - move things slightly around |
| 22:22.27 | Toufas | lol i disabled the addons, got errors, deleted the same addons wow works fine :P |
| 22:22.39 | durcyn | you -added- a typo? :o |
| 22:22.46 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: 'course |
| 22:22.55 | Gnarfoz | every addon needs some typo love some times |
| 22:23.06 | TecnoBrat | I saw that too durcyn |
| 22:23.11 | TecnoBrat | he likes adding typos aparantly |
| 22:23.54 | ckknight | durcyn: I meant comma |
| 22:24.03 | TecnoBrat | hehe |
| 22:24.06 | TecnoBrat | suuuure you did! |
| 22:24.49 | ckknight | um |
| 22:24.51 | ckknight | ur dum |
| 22:25.17 | sbu | no u? :/ |
| 22:25.31 | Killmore | Pitbull |
| 22:25.31 | Killmore | Message: ..\AddOns\PitBull\libs\Parser-3.0\Parser-3.0.lua line 3873: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 3871) near 'isBuff' |
| 22:25.57 | Thorgard^2 | Killmore, 18 lines up. |
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| 22:26.06 | Killmore | oh, cool |
| 22:26.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37485 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - only create Parser-1.1 functions when :GetInstance('1.1') is called. Should save a bit of memory. |
| 22:26.17 | Thrae | ckknight: To me, the word "fixing" implies something is broken or wrong. All you are doing is, as you put it, improving upon the existing Parser-1.1. I just don't like people going around saying they're "fixing" addons or libraries when there's nothing wrong with them except the "fixer" feels more features should be added. |
| 22:26.34 | ckknight | gah, I didn't mean I was fixing Parser-1.1 |
| 22:26.37 | ckknight | I meant I fixed the bug in Parser-3.0 |
| 22:26.46 | Thrae | Oh, well that's fine then. |
| 22:26.54 | ckknight | see, panties. |
| 22:26.57 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:27.03 | ckknight | ~depants Thrae |
| 22:27.40 | purl | ACTION grabs and pulls down Thrae's pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties. |
| 22:27.40 | Saroz | PANTIES |
| 22:28.27 | Thorgard^2 | I was hoping for something better. :/ |
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| 22:29.29 | Toufas | has anyone made an addon that shows how many resources addons use? i was using warmup, but i cant find it in wowace files |
| 22:29.37 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37486 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - remove CHAT_MSG_LOOT reference. |
| 22:29.42 | TecnoBrat | Toufas, PerformanceFu |
| 22:30.48 | Toufas | thank you |
| 22:30.48 | Toufas | i was using miniperffu :P |
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| 22:31.44 | Thrae | ckknight: Parser-3.0 appears to take over Parser-1.1 if both are loaded at once, right? |
| 22:32.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37487 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - for Parser-1.1 compat, turn all unknown events into the "unknown" type. Will be useful alter if Parser-3.0 gets more eventTypes. |
| 22:32.10 | ckknight | Thrae: "at once"? |
| 22:32.18 | WillJitsu | I just ran the wow aceupdater and it updated Parser, now I'm getting errors with it |
| 22:32.28 | ckknight | Thrae: if Parser-3.0 is loaded before, it creates _G.ParserLib, which is a compat layer |
| 22:32.38 | ckknight | Thrae: if Parser-1.1 is loaded before, Parser-3.0 doesn't touch |
| 22:33.35 | WillJitsu | Parser-3.0\Parser-3.0.lua:3873:'}' expected (to close '{' at line 3871) near 'isBuff' |
| 22:33.50 | ckknight | update! |
| 22:33.59 | Thrae | Ooook. So that's so people can just stick Parser-3.0 in an addon using 1.1 and have Parser-3.0 simply work without change to the original addon? |
| 22:34.08 | ckknight | right. |
| 22:34.16 | TecnoBrat | ~update |
| 22:34.31 | purl | dselect update, grabs the Packages.gz files from their sources and refreshes the available packages. Use before an apt-get upgrade, or you can use apt-get update instead of dselect update |
| 22:34.32 | ckknight | so they don't have to change their code until they want to, and only have one parser running, which is the most efficient solution I could find |
| 22:34.37 | ckknight | rather than having both running, which causes double CPU/mem usage |
| 22:34.38 | TecnoBrat | blah :P |
| 22:34.50 | ckknight | or having everyone revert to Parser-1.1 for bullshit reasons |
| 22:35.41 | Thrae | But what if Parser-1.1 is improved upon to make it more efficient then Parser-3.0, just using its same API? |
| 22:35.47 | TecnoBrat | I was playing for like 7 hours yesterday, and "Ace2" had used 86mb of memory ... forced a GC, went down to like 3mb .. it was odd. |
| 22:36.03 | Thrae | Then Parser-1.1 would have to fight with Parser-3.0 for dominance. It's kinda silly. |
| 22:36.22 | dodgizzla | Thrae: Not if Parser-3.0 had an Enrage timer |
| 22:36.28 | TecnoBrat | I don't really understand GC all that well tho, so *shrug* |
| 22:36.29 | dodgizzla | Or like a gazillion adds or stuff |
| 22:37.07 | dodgizzla | But then again, Parser-1.1 could strike back with some kind of chain-beam-stuff and tentacles |
| 22:37.13 | ckknight | Thrae: if Parser-1.1 is improved upon, then it is highly likely that Parser-3.0 could have those same improvements. We'll see how it goes when the times comes to that point |
| 22:37.32 | Guillotine | what happened to PitBull_RangeCheck? o.O Seems to have dissapeared during the week I was gone |
| 22:37.40 | ckknight | Guillotine: inside PitBull |
| 22:37.51 | ckknight | currently, Parser-3.0 is on-par with efficiency in most situations and slightly faster in some situations where filters are used aggressively |
| 22:38.05 | Thrae | What if none of the addons loaded need the filter? |
| 22:38.09 | Thorgard^2 | What's the turn-around time from someone commiting a change to it showing in files.wowace.com/WoWAceUpdater? |
| 22:38.21 | TecnoBrat | Thorgard^2, every 20 mins |
| 22:38.23 | ckknight | Thrae: then it's on-par, as I said |
| 22:38.26 | Guillotine | interesting. somehow, it isn't loading then |
| 22:38.38 | Guillotine | at least there is no range checking module or options and it isn't doing it automatically |
| 22:38.39 | TecnoBrat | Thorgard^2, so next one in about 4 mins (according to my clock) |
| 22:38.55 | ckknight | Guillotine: is it in the Modules menu? |
| 22:38.55 | Guillotine | ck: nope |
| 22:38.56 | ckknight | dunno then |
| 22:39.01 | Guillotine | have the newest version of Pitbull from WAU :/ |
| 22:39.17 | ckknight | it works, I know it does, something's messing up for you, likely |
| 22:39.31 | TecnoBrat | Guillotine, any errors? |
| 22:39.39 | Guillotine | tecno: nope |
| 22:39.58 | Guillotine | ck: ya, thats what I'm thinking. maybe have the folder still there and thats messing it up |
| 22:40.01 | TecnoBrat | shut down wow completely? |
| 22:40.44 | Thrae | ckknight: I think trying to improve upon an existing library is a good thing, but until everyone can agree one way is better then the other, wouldn't it be more in the spirit of cooperation to keep the two seperate until then? |
| 22:41.19 | WillJitsu | ckknight: did you just recently fix that parser error? |
| 22:41.21 | Thrae | Out of respect to the original author, and those that worked with him. |
| 22:41.25 | a-stray-cat | sigh, the european language packs break the US version QQ |
| 22:41.26 | ckknight | WillJitsu: yes |
| 22:41.41 | WillJitsu | ckknight: ok so I gotta wait for it to update on the server? |
| 22:41.44 | ckknight | Thrae: no, as that's inefficient as far as CPU and memory is concerned, due to double-calculations, which was the main reason that people (vhaarr) were reverting to Parser-1.1 |
| 22:41.47 | ckknight | WillJitsu: yes |
| 22:41.51 | Thorgard^2 | WillJitsu, it is up now. |
| 22:41.56 | WillJitsu | Thorgard^2: thanks |
| 22:42.12 | Thorgard^2 | WillJitsu, and if you're using WAU, View->Reload Index. |
| 22:42.14 | ckknight | Thrae: so "progress" was prevented because of the separation |
| 22:42.38 | Thrae | ckknight: Right, just as it is less efficient to use Ace2 and, say, Khaos framework side-by-side. |
| 22:42.50 | WillJitsu | Thorgard^2: ahh that was the problem |
| 22:43.32 | ckknight | Thrae: yep. |
| 22:44.05 | ckknight | Thrae: only due to the frequency of chat messages and ease of profiling, it's easier to tell |
| 22:44.40 | TecnoBrat | So, did anyone need me to report anything about the maintank tainting issue on the US forums? |
| 22:45.08 | dodgizzla | I just saw a crazy game called "Zuma".. anyone up to write a WoW addon with multiplayer mode? :> |
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| 22:46.55 | Ominous | woot, moros and maiden down for the first time tonight :) |
| 22:47.30 | Sole | grats, I guess :P |
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| 22:47.42 | Thrae | ckknight: If vhaarr is using addons that he deems less efficient, then he can just stop using those addons, or re-code them himself. You're increasing the complexity for development of Parser-1.1, as now the Parser-3.0 framework co-existing will have to be dealt with. If you screw up somewhere in Parser-3.0 (not saying you will, just hypothetically). It decreases the amount of people who will be able to test Parser-1.1 in real situations |
| 22:48.28 | ckknight | well, the whole point is that people will be able to run Parser-3.0 as a replacement for Parser-1.1 |
| 22:48.41 | sbu | Antiarc: druid line 121 arithmetic blahblah :o |
| 22:48.46 | sbu | (error) |
| 22:49.12 | Thrae | I'm not saying your way is better, you're an excellent coder, but stifling the development process of another library just isn't playing fair. |
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| 22:49.21 | Thrae | s/is better/isn't better/ |
| 22:49.24 | Sole | is the only real difference now between Parser-1.1 and Parser-3.0 the difference in api? |
| 22:49.57 | Leialyn | ckknight, TecnoBrat: ok no I have another problem, seems I don't get element types ... my Simplecombatlog messages are not colored in any way but they should (mage :P ) |
| 22:50.02 | Leialyn | now* |
| 22:50.06 | Ominous | well, i havent been folowing this debate but parser-1.1 hasent been develeped for ages as far as im aware so it isnt relaly stiflings its developmeny |
| 22:50.22 | Sole | thats what I was thinking |
| 22:50.23 | Thrae | ckknight: Right, but by stifling the development of Parser-1.1, and those that would choose to include it in their addon development, you're taking away people's choice by force, instead of letting them choose for themselves. |
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| 22:50.45 | ckknight | well, it's really the user's choice |
| 22:50.47 | Thrae | Ominous: rophy doesn't use the Ace SVN anymore, it's still being developed. |
| 22:50.54 | ckknight | the user can choose to use Parser-1.1 only mods |
| 22:51.05 | ckknight | Leialyn: did you update? |
| 22:51.10 | ckknight | Leialyn: I think I fixed that. |
| 22:51.42 | rubik | how can i make Quartz auto-load? S&D doesn't detect it.. someone please help? |
| 22:51.44 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 22:51.48 | Leialyn | hmm new parser3.0 revision, testing |
| 22:51.52 | Thrae | ckknight: But he can't choose to use both and still gain the benefits of both -- you're directly competing with Parser-1.1. |
| 22:51.52 | Gnarfoz | love the comments on this one: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=17782 xD |
| 22:51.54 | ckknight | Thrae: what does he use, then? |
| 22:52.24 | ckknight | Thrae: by using both, it makes things less efficient overall, needlessly, also, if Parser-1.1 loads first, then it will be used instead of the compat layer. |
| 22:52.49 | Leialyn | ckknight: ok its fixed ^^ |
| 22:52.54 | ckknight | Leialyn: woot. |
| 22:52.58 | ckknight | Leialyn: thought so |
| 22:53.07 | Leialyn | you update so fast ^^ |
| 22:53.16 | ckknight | :-) |
| 22:53.31 | a-stray-cat | anyone here not enUS/ |
| 22:53.34 | Thrae | ckknight: That's not your decision to make though, that's the user and addon developer's decision to make. |
| 22:53.57 | Leialyn | a-stray-cat: yes |
| 22:54.19 | a-stray-cat | can you paste me your realmslist.wtf? :O |
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| 22:54.25 | ckknight | Thrae: oh well, don't expect me to change it now for your fruitful dream where all libs live in harmony with one another. |
| 22:54.49 | ckknight | the user doesn't have to use Parser-3.0 mods, that's their choice |
| 22:54.58 | Leialyn | set realmlist eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 22:54.58 | Leialyn | set patchlist eu.version.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 22:55.06 | Leialyn | @a-stray-cat |
| 22:55.35 | a-stray-cat | thanks |
| 22:55.50 | a-stray-cat | i should have expected it only to differ only in us/eu :o |
| 22:55.54 | Thrae | The two libs could live in perfect harmony, it would just be a little less efficient to have two instances of the lib in memory. |
| 22:56.41 | ckknight | right. |
| 22:56.44 | ckknight | which is bad |
| 22:56.46 | Thrae | Sometimes we do things which are less efficient for the sake of the community. |
| 22:56.57 | ckknight | which is why people (like vhaarr) reverted to Parser-1.1 instead of using Parser-3.0 as he was originally |
| 22:57.04 | sbu | Antiarc? :) |
| 22:57.05 | ckknight | fuck the community. |
| 22:57.10 | ckknight | efficiency is our number one priority |
| 22:57.24 | nevcairiel | that attitude stinks :P |
| 22:57.31 | ckknight | especially as the system I've come up with works |
| 22:57.48 | Thrae | Well, Ace2 isn't as efficient as everyone embedding most of its code in the addon themselves. A lot of the code is just simplifying the existing framework. |
| 22:57.48 | ckknight | it works for addons that use the Parser-1.1 API and it works for addons that use the Parser-3.0 API |
| 22:57.52 | ckknight | so I just don't see the issue. |
| 22:58.32 | Thrae | In fact, most of what you've added to Parser-3.0 is just your version of how the API should play out, a "simplier version", and a generic filter system that was originally implemented custom-tailored within each addon. |
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| 22:59.53 | Gnarfoz | srsly |
| 22:59.53 | ckknight | by having the filter system in Parser-3.0, things are optimized much more for messages that won't be looked at |
| 23:00.12 | ckknight | i.e. if sourceID = "player", you don't have to compute the results of anything outside of that |
| 23:00.15 | ckknight | which happens very often |
| 23:00.22 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r37488 10Niagara/Niagara.lua: Niagara: deDE added |
| 23:00.24 | ckknight | whereas in Parser-1.1, you do, as the filtering is up to the addon itself |
| 23:00.32 | ckknight | thus causing extra, unneeded computation |
| 23:01.00 | ckknight | as well as making the system as a whole more complex overall |
| 23:01.10 | Thrae | As far as I can see, the filtering is enforced. |
| 23:01.26 | Gnarfoz | as far as I can see, there are lots of bunched up panties around :D |
| 23:01.44 | ckknight | Thrae: what's wrong with that? |
| 23:02.03 | Thrae | ckknight: Because I have addons, and know of others, where the filtering isn't needed, period. |
| 23:02.18 | ckknight | right, so you use the simple filter, which is very efficient |
| 23:02.28 | ckknight | the simplest filter you can have is { eventType = "Damage" } |
| 23:02.42 | ckknight | which, in Parser-1.1 terms is the same as :RegisterInfoType("addonID", "hit", func) |
| 23:02.47 | dotted | Parser-3.0 > ParserLib-1.1. Move along now nothing to see here :/ - Stop blocking progress -.- |
| 23:03.02 | ckknight | so I just don't see how that argument holds water |
| 23:04.01 | Peoii | ckknight: Not to sidetrack you with a request, but after getting addicted to said feature within Bongos, I was curious, is there any potential to add to Fubar (on perhaps a per-plugin basis even), that the tooltip could be disabled when in combat? |
| 23:04.22 | ckknight | Peoii: already in. Check the menu under "Tooltip" |
| 23:04.32 | Peoii | ckknight: hawt sex. Thanks much mate. |
| 23:04.44 | Gnarfoz | already implemented requests are the best ;D |
| 23:04.49 | Thrae | ckknight: That wasn't done for efficiency, that was done because the events are so screwed up they need to deformat it anyway. The original idea of ParserLib was just to fix all of the problems with message events, especially those in different locales, coming in such sporatic order that they make no sense. |
| 23:05.01 | a-stray-cat | where'd killing blows go in the new parser-3.0? |
| 23:05.03 | Peoii | lol, I didn't even notice it. So yea, good deal. |
| 23:05.12 | a-stray-cat | under death? |
| 23:05.37 | Thrae | s:original idea:original idea as I understand it: |
| 23:06.03 | ckknight | a-stray-cat: death, yea. |
| 23:06.14 | ckknight | a-stray-cat: HKs are under Honor, though |
| 23:06.17 | ckknight | a-stray-cat: it fires both |
| 23:06.29 | Thrae | ckknight: You're taking Unix, turning it into BSD, then calling it Unix 2.0. |
| 23:06.31 | a-stray-cat | looking specifically for "you killed so and so!" |
| 23:06.37 | ckknight | Thrae: BSD ftw? |
| 23:06.44 | ckknight | a-stray-cat: "Death" |
| 23:06.48 | TecnoBrat | Anyone interested in making an Ace'd version of the new SW_UniLog? Basically a UI that allows you to browse the combat log .. filter the target and source by a value, damage type, etc etc etc |
| 23:06.49 | ckknight | sourceID = "player" |
| 23:06.55 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: you're SCO :p |
| 23:06.59 | Thrae | There are some situations Unix is better then BSD ;) |
| 23:07.09 | a-stray-cat | thanks |
| 23:07.22 | ckknight | Thrae: nah, BSD keeps stealing the cool stuff, e.g. ZFS |
| 23:08.21 | Thrae | Linux kernel can't get as small as a BSD kernel which can't get as small as a Unix kernel for overall resource usage. |
| 23:08.40 | ckknight | then why is Parser-3.0 still so efficient? |
| 23:08.57 | jwwpua | is there an addon that tracks the "Healing Way" buff? |
| 23:08.57 | ckknight | also, it's more efficient _because of_ the filtering system |
| 23:09.00 | ckknight | not in spite of it |
| 23:09.21 | Gagorian | jwwpua: Tracks it.. how? |
| 23:09.51 | Thrae | I'm not saying Parser-3.0 is more efficient. I'm just saying you could, with a tiny bit more effort, make it into a seperate lib which depends on Parser-1.x, and keep the original spirit of open-source cooperation. |
| 23:10.10 | ckknight | disagree |
| 23:10.14 | Thrae | Especially considering Parser-3.0 is more like Linux vs Unix ;) |
| 23:10.20 | jwwpua | Gagorian: it's a shaman buff that stacks 3 times and lasts 15 seconds. when healing the MT, it's best to keep the buff on him by using Rank 1 heals. It'd be nice to have a floating icon/text that shows the buff count (1-3) and time remaining on the buff |
| 23:10.28 | ckknight | because Parser-1.1 works mostly on an event schema |
| 23:10.43 | ckknight | also, if it were to do that, then Parser-3.0 couldn't add other eventTypes |
| 23:10.55 | jwwpua | Gagorian: sort of like the Earth Shield tracker addon |
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| 23:11.04 | ckknight | also, Parser-1.1 is using a less efficient deformatting system, Parser-3.0 couldn't upgrade that |
| 23:11.06 | ckknight | etc. |
| 23:11.08 | jwwpua | Gagorian: keeps track of who you have the buff on, time remaining, and charges left |
| 23:11.11 | Thrae | So, you've already made your compatibility layer. If all you want to do is make it more efficient, you don't need to change the API. |
| 23:11.18 | ckknight | also, why would you want Parser-3.0 depending on Parser-1.1, it'd be ugly |
| 23:11.20 | Thrae | Then you could change Parser-1.1. |
| 23:11.33 | ckknight | also, Parser-1.1 doesn't use Ace in the sense that you can embed it, which Parser-3.0 can |
| 23:11.49 | ardor | Anyone for hire? I have a wow project. |
| 23:11.49 | ckknight | if Parser-3.0 were to be just a layer on top of Parser-1.1, it'd be less efficient by definition |
| 23:11.56 | ckknight | ardor: potentially |
| 23:12.02 | Gagorian | jwwpua: I know what Healing Way is :) Well, debuff filter filters buffs/debuffs that you specify on the target and creates a separate frame for them |
| 23:12.12 | Gagorian | Just add Healing Way and drag the frame wherever you want |
| 23:12.19 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r37489 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 23:12.19 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 23:12.19 | CIA-22 | - added a rough DamageMeters communication parser. |
| 23:12.26 | jwwpua | Gagorian: will it keep up with the charges and time remaining? |
| 23:12.32 | ckknight | also, Parser-2.0 _was_ in the works, but nixed because too many people were using 1.1 already, it was complex to upgrade |
| 23:12.33 | Jagobah | hmmm quartz is now load on demand D: ? |
| 23:12.42 | ardor | I'm looking for something pretty basic, I think, however I lack any knowledge of "wow programming" |
| 23:12.49 | ckknight | also, rophy kinda petered out wrt the whole Parser-2.0 thing |
| 23:12.52 | Thrae | ckknight: Not if you code it properly. |
| 23:12.59 | Gagorian | jwwpua: I'm not a shaman but probably yes |
| 23:13.08 | jwwpua | Gagorian: where can I get it? |
| 23:13.13 | ckknight | Thrae: bottom line: I'm not changing it. |
| 23:13.36 | ckknight | Thrae: I believe my situation is the best situation that I've heard, and have yet to be convinced otherwise |
| 23:13.38 | Thrae | ckknight: Errr, Parser-2.0 had two objectives -- change the API, and make it use Ace2. Me and rophy found it wasn't really more efficient, sometimes less efficient, to use Ace2 (at the time), so we abandoned it. |
| 23:13.48 | Funkeh` | ckknight: did you make threat broadcast in KTM format also? |
| 23:13.51 | ardor | I just need some working, source code for like typing on the in game wow chat line /mycommandname command arugments |
| 23:13.59 | ckknight | Funkeh`: no, but it has the potential to |
| 23:14.07 | ardor | then it sends it to my socket server, and types the reply on the wow chat |
| 23:14.10 | ardor | is that possable? |
| 23:14.10 | Gagorian | jwwpua: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/3574/ |
| 23:14.13 | Funkeh` | ckknight: good, cba with broadcasting 2 messages |
| 23:14.27 | Thorgard^2 | ardor, can't communicate with the outside world through WoW. |
| 23:14.30 | Funkeh` | ckknight: it should stay like that imo |
| 23:14.36 | ckknight | Funkeh`: frankly, if KTM wants to work with Threat-1.0, it can learn how to read Threat-1.0 messages |
| 23:14.50 | ckknight | Threat-1.0 will read KTM's messages and use that data (eventually) |
| 23:14.54 | ckknight | but not output |
| 23:14.55 | Funkeh` | yeah but lets be realistic |
| 23:14.59 | Funkeh` | we are talking about kenco :D |
| 23:15.05 | ckknight | yea, he won't do that |
| 23:15.17 | ardor | Thorgard^2: Oh, |
| 23:15.22 | Thrae | ckknight: *sigh* Fine, just realize -- you're sounding exactly like AL. |
| 23:15.25 | jwwpua | Gagorian: thanks I'll give it a try |
| 23:15.35 | Adirelle | I think Threat will never send merge pet and master threat.. KTM does it ATM :/ |
| 23:15.40 | snurre | Thrae: harsh |
| 23:16.39 | TecnoBrat | why would it send merged pet/master threat? |
| 23:16.42 | TecnoBrat | that makes no sense |
| 23:16.43 | Thorgard^2 | ardor, yeah, the only data you can access is whatever data was loaded when you launched the WoW client. |
| 23:16.45 | ardor | Can I roll random numbers from a list, and when the number comes up, remove it from the list for all the users, using my wow programm? |
| 23:16.47 | ckknight | Thrae: I'd be happy to be convinced otherwise, but I haven't yet, and I see you as in the way of progress. Perhaps it would be better to see the advantages of the new system rather than bashing it for being different |
| 23:16.50 | Adirelle | yes, that makes no sense, but it does |
| 23:16.59 | Thorgard^2 | ardor, oh, yeah. |
| 23:17.02 | Adirelle | I looked at what it sent... sending my boar et letting fight |
| 23:17.20 | ardor | so if user A rolls 200, then user B can not roll 200. |
| 23:17.32 | TecnoBrat | Adirelle, wtf ... what good is merged data? |
| 23:17.39 | ardor | I think thats all I really need. |
| 23:17.39 | Adirelle | "my" threat went up by 4600 (charge+growl) then continued to go up... |
| 23:17.40 | Thrae | ckknight: You thinking I'm trying to "bash" your implementation is exactly why I said what I just said. Let's end this conversation... |
| 23:17.46 | Adirelle | TecnoBrat: dunno |
| 23:17.52 | Thorgard^2 | ardor, yeah, you'd have to make a customer /roll command though. ;P |
| 23:17.54 | Adirelle | TecnoBrat: it does it, period. |
| 23:17.57 | TecnoBrat | that boggles my mind |
| 23:18.01 | Adirelle | yep |
| 23:18.07 | jwwpua | Gagorian: would you happen to know of an addon that will show interrupt attempts (kick/pummel/counterspell/etc) in a message alert? (even if they don't interrupt, but are attempted) |
| 23:18.11 | TecnoBrat | useless messages to parse ftl |
| 23:18.20 | ardor | Anyone, want to make some money making a custom roll command for me? |
| 23:18.29 | a-stray-cat | Adirelle: i don't think ktm merges pet and and master threat |
| 23:18.34 | TecnoBrat | jwwpua, not sure if CastYeller does exactly that .. but you can check |
| 23:18.34 | Gagorian | jwwpua: Nope |
| 23:18.39 | a-stray-cat | my ktm shows them as two separate bars? |
| 23:18.46 | jwwpua | TecnoBrat: i'll check it out. thanks |
| 23:18.47 | TecnoBrat | jwwpua, it at least shows taunts, and resisted taunts, ect |
| 23:18.49 | a-stray-cat | i know mine doesn't move when im not shooting and my pets attacking |
| 23:18.49 | jwwpua | Gagorian: well make one! |
| 23:19.04 | Adirelle | a-stray-cat: I didn't think too, then I asked prat to show me what KTM sent... |
| 23:19.17 | ckknight | Thrae: here's my perspective: It seems like from your point of view, I should've kept support for old FuBar plugins that were out of date and used a deprecated API, and instead just kept upgrading it instead of having a 2.0 release, thus making progress harder overall and hurting development as a whole. |
| 23:19.22 | a-stray-cat | does it show them at the same time? or does it totally merge them? |
| 23:19.42 | Adirelle | totally merge them |
| 23:19.55 | Adirelle | message like : KTHLM t 4600 |
| 23:19.55 | Gagorian | jwwpua: No, you make one |
| 23:19.57 | a-stray-cat | so people other than me see my bar as huge then? |
| 23:19.57 | snurre | ktm only sends "KLHTM t xxxxx" |
| 23:19.58 | jwwpua | TecnoBrat: oh I think that's only for your own spells/abilities. I'm looking for something that tells me when another player that's fighting me burns his interrupt |
| 23:19.59 | snurre | nothing more |
| 23:20.03 | ardor | oh since I can't contact outside the wow world when inside wow, can I write a file to the harddrive that the user can upload to a website? |
| 23:20.05 | jwwpua | Gagorian: I wish I could :P |
| 23:20.05 | snurre | (but *loads* of it) |
| 23:20.07 | a-stray-cat | no wonder they're always screaming at me to FD |
| 23:20.14 | a-stray-cat | and im always saying "not yet!" |
| 23:20.22 | Gagorian | jwwpua: Learn! So has most of the people here |
| 23:20.23 | Adirelle | jwwpua: castyeller should do the trick |
| 23:20.40 | Adirelle | jwwpua: oh, didn't read last sentence |
| 23:20.47 | Adirelle | so no, it doesn't for other peoples |
| 23:20.56 | jwwpua | ah ok |
| 23:21.07 | Thorgard^2 | ardor, yeah, that's doable. It's how most DKP/raid trackers work. |
| 23:21.24 | Adirelle | a-stray-cat: that what I thought when I saw that... that's just... incredibly insane. |
| 23:21.27 | ckknight | ardor: yes, you can when they reload or logout |
| 23:21.35 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: ping |
| 23:21.38 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37490 10BigWigs/Karazhan/TheBigBadWolf.lua: |
| 23:21.39 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: Karazhan/TheBigBadWolf: |
| 23:21.39 | CIA-22 | - hopefully fix the issue as reported by blime of everyone getting a warning when you have a player by the name of 'You' in the raid |
| 23:21.51 | TecnoBrat | Funkeh`, ROFL NOOOOOOOooOOOO |
| 23:21.56 | Thorgard^2 | lol |
| 23:22.06 | Funkeh` | O_o |
| 23:22.08 | Adirelle | lol |
| 23:22.14 | Thorgard^2 | "Damn You" |
| 23:22.17 | TecnoBrat | You missed the big discussion on that |
| 23:22.24 | ardor | ok so what it stores the file in "limbo" and when you logout then it puts it to the disk? |
| 23:22.24 | Funkeh` | aww |
| 23:22.24 | TecnoBrat | :) |
| 23:22.27 | Funkeh` | i was doing vashj :p |
| 23:22.29 | TecnoBrat | He was in here |
| 23:22.36 | Funkeh` | was he? :P |
| 23:22.37 | TecnoBrat | might still be, dunno |
| 23:22.47 | TecnoBrat | yea, he is .. Blime |
| 23:22.49 | Adirelle | ardor: something like that |
| 23:22.56 | TecnoBrat | We told him to change his name, haha |
| 23:23.06 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 23:23.14 | Peoii | Ok, so before I go off and make a suggestion, do we have any timer addons that sync across multiple people to refresh debuff timers for all classes? |
| 23:23.21 | Funkeh` | kinda hard to imagine that you would name yourself 'you' though |
| 23:23.22 | Adirelle | ardor: in fact data are serialized in lua-readable format at logout |
| 23:23.36 | a-stray-cat | Peoii: i'm attempting to work that into sorrentimers ;x |
| 23:24.00 | ardor | what about a packet snifffer and a logged in bot, to get things done in real time. |
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| 23:24.18 | Thorgard^2 | ardor, breaking the ToS. |
| 23:24.18 | Adirelle | ardor: what about being banned in doing this ? |
| 23:24.20 | Peoii | a-stray-cat: hrm, k. I'm looking for something that will sync stuff like scorches/etc for mages, sunders/etc for warriors,etc. using the new 2.1 allowances, this should be trivial yes? |
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| 23:24.35 | ardor | Ah I see. |
| 23:24.43 | snurre | http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8164/freshserveriv3.jpg |
| 23:24.49 | TecnoBrat | ardor, what you are trying to do breaks the ToS and is not allowed through the API ... and we dont really wanna talk about it here. |
| 23:24.58 | Adirelle | night |
| 23:25.13 | ardor | I dont want to break the ToS i just dont know what I am talking about it. |
| 23:25.44 | *** join/#wowace Coldheart (n=cold@systembolaget.us) |
| 23:25.51 | a-stray-cat | Peoii: probably |
| 23:26.01 | ardor | Well, anyone want to write that random number thing for me? |
| 23:26.04 | ardor | I have paypal. |
| 23:26.34 | Gagorian | umm, what? |
| 23:28.17 | a-stray-cat | function rand() return 3; end --rolled a die, guarenteed to be random |
| 23:28.17 | TecnoBrat | ardor, specifically the ToU says you cannot capture chat from the game and use any sort of bot to post it elsewhere |
| 23:28.20 | ardor | it need to be removed from the global random list, when the number its. |
| 23:28.44 | ckknight | ardor: math.random() |
| 23:28.49 | ardor | Tecnobrat: but its ok to do it, upon exiting the game? |
| 23:29.04 | ckknight | ardor: math.random(min, max) |
| 23:29.12 | Thorgard^2 | Basically a '/random' mod that communicates with people in the raid/group and removes numbers roll from the 'pool' of allowed numbers. ;P |
| 23:29.32 | TecnoBrat | you can do whatever you want with your chat logs .. wow has a built in chat logger. but you can't do it in real-time |
| 23:30.09 | ardor | guys, I'm smart, i am sure i could spend 3 hours or how ever long it takes to w rite what I want, however, I dont want to. i want to pay someone who wants to work with me to get the first steps and my whole project done, who knows "wow programming" already. |
| 23:30.11 | Herio | Prat.Colors.SHAMAN? |
| 23:30.20 | Herio | prat is telling shamen are warlocks? |
| 23:30.28 | ckknight | shamans |
| 23:30.32 | hyperChipmunk | shaman |
| 23:30.47 | hyperChipmunk | one shaman, two shaman, three shaman |
| 23:30.53 | ckknight | no, not according to blizz |
| 23:30.55 | Chompers | ckk, whats your goal with parser3.0? |
| 23:30.55 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't even make sense :p |
| 23:30.57 | ckknight | it's one shaman, two shamans |
| 23:30.58 | hyperChipmunk | no shaman |
| 23:31.04 | ckknight | Chompers: domination |
| 23:31.09 | Herio | why not either directly reference RAID_CLASS_COLORS or copy the colors like pitbull does?! |
| 23:31.10 | ckknight | Chompers: alternatively, cookies |
| 23:31.12 | Herio | TELL ME DAMN IT! |
| 23:31.14 | Wobin | shaman is both singular and collective =P |
| 23:31.15 | Herio | YARG |
| 23:31.22 | ardor | you know, I dont even need a in-game plugin now that I think about it. |
| 23:31.27 | Chompers | or dominating cookies with laser beams |
| 23:31.28 | jwwpua | does Cartographer tracks friends on the map? or do they have to be in the guild? |
| 23:31.31 | Chompers | gotta think big |
| 23:31.32 | jwwpua | track* |
| 23:31.34 | Gnarfoz | hyperChipmunk: http://www.wowwiki.com/Shaman_Spelling |
| 23:31.36 | Wobin | jwwpua: only guild |
| 23:31.37 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 23:31.49 | hyperChipmunk | well, i can always fix that |
| 23:31.51 | TecnoBrat | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/classcombo.html <= checkout the <title> |
| 23:31.55 | ardor | Thank you guys for all your help, mainly about the ToS stuff. as I offten thing of cool things i want to do in wow. |
| 23:31.56 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/Shaman_Spelling |
| 23:31.57 | jwwpua | would it be possible to track friends too if they had the same addon? |
| 23:32.07 | Gnarfoz | it explains why it's shamans, what's to fix? :p |
| 23:32.08 | ardor | now i know some limits. |
| 23:32.15 | Thorgard^2 | Good luck with your project, ardor. |
| 23:32.21 | ardor | Thanks =) |
| 23:32.23 | ckknight | jwwpua: guild |
| 23:32.28 | ckknight | jwwpua: no, not possible |
| 23:32.54 | ckknight | Chompers: there's no real goal, it's just a very nice parsing library, to handle any chat parsing without hassle |
| 23:32.56 | jwwpua | a channel couldn't be used to broadcast coordinates? |
| 23:34.28 | Chompers | ah right cool |
| 23:34.44 | Chompers | wondered if it was preperation for some sort of new addon |
| 23:34.58 | ckknight | jwwpua: could be, but I'm not adding it |
| 23:35.05 | ckknight | Chompers: lots of addons use it |
| 23:35.14 | TecnoBrat | jwwpua, if you had like everyone with cart in a channel on a server, that would be a lot of messages to parse to check to make sure they are on your friends list .. |
| 23:35.18 | ckknight | Chompers: (but I was thinking about making an SCT clone) |
| 23:35.32 | jwwpua | oh |
| 23:35.35 | jwwpua | i was thinking more along the lines of adding specific friends |
| 23:35.40 | Thorgard^2 | "Re'ka ogg" anyone? |
| 23:35.45 | Chompers | i'd like to see that ckk |
| 23:35.50 | jwwpua | and they would have to add you for it to work |
| 23:35.54 | TecnoBrat | jwwpua, yes ... |
| 23:35.58 | jwwpua | but I understand the reason for not doing it |
| 23:36.00 | TecnoBrat | but you would have to be in a channel |
| 23:36.03 | ckknight | Chompers: either that or Monopoly |
| 23:36.11 | Chompers | i thought that there was no need to make new unit frames with Aguf about, damn was i wrong :P |
| 23:36.21 | TecnoBrat | and it would broadcast to the channel, and then the other person would ignore it if you aren't a friend |
| 23:36.34 | TecnoBrat | otherwise, how would you do it? |
| 23:37.29 | Herio | sylvanaar: ping |
| 23:37.34 | Herio | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 23:39.24 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 5m 46s ago, saying: 'does that make sense to anyone?'. |
| 23:39.24 | jwwpua | TecnoBrat: custom channel that you agree on and input manually? |
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| 23:40.29 | Funkeh` | ckknight: |
| 23:40.29 | ckknight | Funkeh`: |
| 23:40.36 | Funkeh` | ckknight: my friend warlock is reporting an error when summoning a pet Violation\libs\Threat-1.0\[Threat-1.0.lua:24:] attempt to index local 'text' (a nil value) |
| 23:42.47 | ckknight | Funkeh`: any debugstack? |
| 23:43.04 | Funkeh` | ill ask him if he suses buggrabber |
| 23:43.08 | Funkeh` | uses* |
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| 23:45.03 | Wixi | Am i right in saying if i want to edit a custom event in SCT, i change /SCT/sct_event_config.lua? |
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| 23:46.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37491 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - add an argument check to HexCheckSum |
| 23:46.21 | ckknight | Wixi: that is both true and not true... until you check. Go find out |
| 23:47.36 | Peoii | [2007/05/28 16:00:34-2-x172]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Mage.lua:44: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 23:47.42 | Peoii | interesting odd error. |
| 23:48.28 | Wixi | ckknight: I have checked as far as i can tell if it is commented out -- it shouldn't be displaying however, it still is |
| 23:48.32 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight or nymbia: http://ace.pastey.net/44017 |
| 23:48.35 | Thorgard^2 | http://ace.pastey.net/44018 |
| 23:48.36 | sbu | Peoii: same with druid |
| 23:49.18 | Peoii | sbu: Yea, I was noticing some of the posts. Seems rather class non-specific. |
| 23:50.21 | Funkeh` | ckknight: Thorgard^2 has the error for you |
| 23:51.00 | ckknight | Thorgard^2: update |
| 23:51.21 | Thorgard^2 | ckknight, I did.. how recent should I be? ;P |
| 23:51.21 | nekoh | Antiarc: could u, or someone with svn access change this in the Mage module of threat-1.0: http://ace.pastey.net/44019 |
| 23:51.22 | TecnoBrat | Thorgard^2, look up 10 lines |
| 23:51.27 | Thorgard^2 | Oh. That was it. |
| 23:51.33 | Thorgard^2 | TEstin'. |
| 23:51.40 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: dang. not sure how to handle that one |
| 23:51.54 | sbu | Threat-1.0-37468 (Threat-1.0):24: attempt to index local 'text' (a nil value) |
| 23:52.04 | TecnoBrat | sbu, look up 10 lines |
| 23:52.06 | TecnoBrat | update :) |
| 23:53.17 | sbu | oh hm |
| 23:53.24 | sbu | *hides* |
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| 23:54.09 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: I disabled MobMitigation right now, which is the only thing I know of offhand that uses Parser 3. Does SCL use 1.1 or 3? |
| 23:54.10 | sbu | Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:671: bad argument #1 to 'tremove' (table expected, got nil) <-- winner? |
| 23:54.18 | Gnarfoz | lots of updating going on today, it's very likely you'll report a bug in _just_ the wrong moment ;D |
| 23:54.41 | ZealotOnAStick | (only thing I run that I'm aware of that uses it, at any rate) |
| 23:55.18 | TecnoBrat | Hmmm, maybe I should actually learn how to write an addon |
| 23:55.54 | Funkeh` | ckknight: sbu has the 2nd error my warlock friend gets, whenever someone dies afaik |
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| 23:56.18 | Gnarfoz | poll: I, rogue, have: Aldor exalted sword + (can farm for Latro's shifting sword) -- no good arena team, so slow but steady arena point gain. Which one to get first? Arena MH or OH sword? (for combat PvE) |
| 23:56.43 | Peoii | oh |
| 23:56.48 | Peoii | err, OH :P |
| 23:56.51 | Thorgard^2 | Still http://ace.pastey.net/44018 |
| 23:57.08 | Thorgard^2 | Oh, hmm.. |
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| 23:57.21 | jwwpua | can you add custom events/messages with SCT? |
| 23:57.29 | Thorgard^2 | Nevamind. |
| 23:57.30 | Peoii | Gnarfoz: If you raid at all, go after Netherspites sword for your MH, or a Hope ender. honestly they're going to be superior in a lot of cases. The OH though is going to last you a while. |
| 23:57.30 | TecnoBrat | Threat-1.0-37479 .. |
| 23:57.31 | TecnoBrat | ckknight * r37491 Threat-1.0 |
| 23:57.37 | TecnoBrat | you are not updated :P |
| 23:57.54 | Funkeh` | WTF DUDE YOU SUCK |
| 23:58.01 | TecnoBrat | script should run in like 4 mins |
| 23:58.12 | Gnarfoz | Peoii: yeah, thought as much, the arena OH is kind of at the top end of what exists, but there are several MH upgrades possible |
| 23:58.14 | TecnoBrat | Funkeh`, I KNOW DUDE WTF |
| 23:58.35 | Peoii | Gnarfoz: Aye, and that sword off Netherspite is so bloody common even my mage has it. |
| 23:58.40 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 23:59.13 | Gnarfoz | getting into a kara group shouldn't be that hard, even on my crappy PoS server :D |
| 23:59.24 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't have stopped playing my rogue ^^ |
| 23:59.36 | Peoii | We've got pug Gruul & Kara groups going. |
