IRC log for #wowace on 20070525

00:01.56*** join/#wowace Ominous_ (i=HydraIRC@85-210-158-233.dsl.pipex.com)
00:03.54rophywhat does the toc field #LoadWith do?
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00:05.45smoke_is there an addon that shows more debuff/buff slots on the default blizzard unitframe thats standalone (i dont want to use any other unitframes)
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00:07.23bigzerosolacetargetframe
00:07.33bigzerobut it hasn't been updated in a while
00:07.35AntiarcHooray for being home.
00:07.51Bam__what? Don't like work? :P
00:08.04bigzeroand the buffs hide the enemy casting bar when there's more than 3 or 4 lines of debuffs
00:08.34smoke_k
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00:11.32Eyes-t2nd boss in heroic mech sucks now
00:12.38pacroonI think its not so bad, if you dont try to run around and dps the boss while being followed
00:13.52KirkburnIs there any way of finding out group rep? e.g. "Alliance" rep
00:14.11pacroonLike calculating it?
00:14.13KirkburnSomehow I just hit revered, despite being exalted with all factions except Gnomey (which is half revered)
00:14.40Kirkburn(by which I mean halfway to exalted)
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00:17.55kergothhahah, ammofu says i'm currently at -2147483648%
00:18.02kergoththats a neat trick
00:22.12NeoTronEyes-t: they changed it?
00:22.19Eyes-tyep
00:22.24NeoTronhow ?
00:22.31Eyes-tyou cant kite him no more to the 3rd boss room
00:22.34NeoTronlame
00:22.42Eyes-tonce he hits the bridge she evades
00:22.42NeoTronso now it's back to completely random luck encounter?
00:22.51Eyes-tnot really
00:23.18Eyes-tif you can get the agrro on the fire guys you can have 2 classes not your healer or tank who can kite them all the way back without evading
00:23.26NeoTronif the elementals stick to the MT or healer it's a fricking pain in the ass
00:23.31Eyes-tthen once you come back to the 2nd boss room nuke the fuck out of him
00:23.39Eyes-tthen go tot he brdige and reset it
00:23.43NeoTronbut how can you get aggro on them now? it worked before because the group could be far enough away
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00:23.59Eyes-tyou cant you just keep resetting it until you get the right aggro on the fire elems
00:24.02NeoTronoh wait so elementals don't evade?
00:24.09Eyes-taslong as the boss dont
00:24.13NeoTronhmm
00:24.27NeoTronoh I see
00:24.28NeoTronstill
00:24.32NeoTronthat's a retarded encounter
00:24.36Eyes-thow we did was I pulled the boss (mage) and the tank taunted ithe boss of me
00:24.54NeoTronelementals randomly target though
00:25.02NeoTronso how many tries before the tank/healer was in the clear?
00:25.03Eyes-ti had aggro on 2 fire guys and the 2nd mage had the aggro on the 3rd we kite them all the way to the last boss room
00:25.08Eyes-t5
00:25.49Eyes-tas long you can make it to the bridge she will reset, so just keep doing that till the fire guys aggro on the right people
00:27.00NeoTroneasy enough
00:27.07NeoTronbut still find the encounter rather dumb :)
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00:27.21Eyes-tyeah i liked the just kite and dps her
00:28.06NeoTrononly difference now is that you have to reset the encounter until it works
00:29.23FrostByghteupdated cartographer a bit ago, and still no objects are showing in the BG's
00:29.29FrostByghtenot sure what is wrong, no errors that I can see
00:29.42FrostByghteobjectives
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00:30.15AntiarcHm. eePanels borked for anyone else?
00:30.40evlwookieseems fine here since patch.
00:30.44rophyregen from blessing of wisdom no longer shows on the combat log in 2.1?
00:30.52AntiarcI just updated and it's borkified on me.
00:31.49Antiarc[2007/05/24 17:30:50-5630-x1]: eePanels-1.0\core.lua:827: attempt to call method 'SetAttribute' (a nil value)
00:32.22sylvanaargrr why are there required deps in fubarplugin's toc
00:32.42Angry_Dwarfhmm.. pitbull frames sometimes coming up with no text.. just bars
00:32.49Gnarfozmaybe it requires something? :D
00:32.55sylvanaarno
00:33.02sylvanaarit requires nothing
00:33.04Angry_Dwarfreloadui seems to fix it.. sometimes
00:33.28sylvanaarthey needz to come out, they are preventing it from loading
00:35.44NightHawkTheSaneso fix it?
00:36.13smoke_hey guys, what action bar mod and chat mod is this guy using in this screenshot
00:36.14smoke_http://www.blacktalonguild.com/
00:36.17smoke_the first screenshot
00:37.39Hjaltesmoke_, those action bars could be anything really. Bartender3 could easily look like that. And that chat addon could be Prat.
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00:38.08smoke_k thanks
00:38.09Angry_Dwarfthere's no fubar icon for bartender.. but yeah could be anything
00:38.13CIA-2203sylvanaar * r36809 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.toc: FuBarPlugin-2.0: Removed RequiredDeps (they prevent loading), and optdeps - they dont do anything
00:38.26smoke_does bartender have like
00:38.48smoke_umm you know how autobar works where if u use a mana gem or whatever, it puts the next lower level gem in the button slot
00:38.50smoke_does it do that?
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00:39.02KirkburnNot afaik
00:39.03Angry_Dwarfno
00:39.12smoke_i havent been too into addons after the big lua patch that broke them alll so im back trying to get a cool ui together
00:39.36KirkburnIt didn't break them all ;)
00:39.50KirkburnNot mine, anyway ... :P
00:40.16smoke_you kirk the fastcast guy?
00:40.25KirkburnNope, ClearFont
00:40.28smoke_k
00:40.47NeoTronsmoke_: not even autobar can do that anymore unfortunately
00:40.49NeoTronnot in-combat
00:40.54smoke_to be honest, what guys you think is the best unit frames out? aguf , pitbull?
00:41.03AntiarcI'm a pitbull fan.
00:41.06Angry_Dwarfpitbull seems to be popular atm
00:41.08smoke_oh yeah, that sucks
00:41.14KeiasToo many opinions on whats considered "Best"
00:41.22NightHawkTheSanepcuf ftw!
00:41.23smoke_yeah, i tried both ag and pitbull
00:41.42smoke_i like pitbull just the fact it has that configuration option
00:41.47smoke_thats pretty cool
00:42.06hypetechlol. all I keep hearing is "Pitbull is better, but I set it up to work and look just like aguf" so I don't think there's any reason to switch
00:42.23Eejit works better than aguf
00:42.24AntiarcWell, considering that ag considers pitbull to be superior... :P
00:42.33Keiaslol Antiarc
00:42.34KirkburnThat's because the design of agUF is excellent
00:42.40hyperChipmunkit can look the same
00:42.47hyperChipmunkbut it's so much more capable
00:42.54Eejoh
00:42.55NightHawkTheSaneui != functionality, yeesh.
00:42.56Eejit also has party assist targets
00:42.58EejHOLLA
00:42.59KeiasDid AGUF pick up the LOD options?
00:43.10Angry_Dwarfpitbull has a lot of bells and whistles
00:43.27KirkburnModular bells and whistles
00:43.35Angry_Dwarfindeed
00:43.38hyperChipmunkbut they're all modular
00:43.38hyperChipmunkyea
00:43.42Angry_Dwarfan upside, not a down
00:44.15smoke_i liked aguf alot because fo the themes, but i guess pitbull cna look the same way too if i were to mess w/ it?
00:44.21Angry_Dwarfheal estimation, range fading, the spark
00:44.43Angry_DwarfI am not sure if pitbull got the issues ironed out with all the themes yet
00:45.04Angry_Dwarfbut it has several options as far as themes go
00:45.10Angry_Dwarfand yeah you can make it look just like aguf if you want
00:49.02KirkburnThe default Pitbull look it almost identical to the default agUF look
00:49.57Hjaltehypetech, that's just the layout. Pitbull has more features, a lot of which i use, and it has much much better aura handling.
00:51.59Brunersis there a wireless manager for linux that supports WPA-PSK ?
00:52.49Eejgreatest thing about Pitbull for me, aside from party assist frames, is the Spark
00:54.27rophyAntiarc, Antiarc|Work : does TableTopLib work? Where is the documentation?
00:55.02Antiarcrophy: Sorta, there is none, and it's really not a lib, and it needs to go away
00:55.13AntiarcI wrote it when I was just first stumbling through ace, and I heartily recommend not using it :D
00:55.26rophyI was looking for a table library though :p
00:55.31rophyi am
00:55.46rophywith sortable columns etc
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01:01.32AntiarcWell, that's what tabletop is supposed to do
01:01.32AntiarcBut it is really really really really badly written
01:01.32AntiarcAnd it needs a rewrite
01:01.32AntiarcIt's also buggy
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01:02.02rophyhmm
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01:03.45CIA-2203antiarc * r36810 10KTMCPUManager/ (KTMCPUManager.lua KTMCPUManager.toc): KTMCPUManager: I now declare this mod ready for beta use. Try it out, lemme know if it breaks.
01:04.07ThorgardAntiarc, is it edible?
01:04.17AntiarcIt is edible!
01:04.51a-stray-catjust in time for karazhan
01:05.02AntiarcWell, it won't improve performance in combat
01:05.10AntiarcBut it'll cause you to not burn CPU while standing around
01:05.14nymbiaAntiarc: lol, he's not gonna like that ;)
01:05.17a-stray-cat;p
01:05.26a-stray-catfortunately, im sitting this karazhan
01:05.28NeoTronI say he go fix his code then
01:05.31Antiarcnymbia: Too freakin' bad? :)
01:05.33a-stray-catso my karazhan consists of sitting beyond the portal
01:05.35ThorgardAaah.
01:05.43nymbiaAntiarc: indeed.
01:05.51AntiarcOh, wait, I change my response:
01:05.53Antiarc"Who cares?"
01:06.04NeoTronshould post it as a comment to the curse thread  heh
01:06.08nymbiaAntiarc: lol
01:06.09AntiarcI just may
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01:06.14AntiarcI'm gonna post it on EJ and WoWAce for now though
01:06.41ThorgardAntiarc, it's aid for 'ze threatmeter not to make it chug CPU when it's not doing anything? ;P
01:06.58AntiarcYes.
01:07.00a-stray-catnymbia: can you add the lag meter that quartz has onto the projected autoshot too?
01:07.06a-stray-catthat'd be sweet :X
01:07.11NeoTronI frickign hate curse's search
01:07.12NeoTronit's useless
01:07.47ThorgardAntiarc, write a new threatmeter from scratch. ;)
01:07.53AntiarcThorgard: I'm lazy.
01:08.02a-stray-cataren't we all ;o
01:08.13Kody-neotron, have you actually used it lately?
01:08.42nymbiaa-stray-cat: yeah... problem is where to get that number.  from your last cast, or from the blizz ping display?
01:09.15NeoTronKody-: I just tried to find KTM
01:09.27NeoTrononly way to find it is to remember it's called "klhthreatmeter"
01:09.29a-stray-cati'd say from your last cast +/- the difference in the projected autoshot to its actual cast :X
01:09.36a-stray-catif its below 0.5
01:09.41Kody-shows up for me using ktm or klh
01:09.43Kody-oh
01:09.44NeoTroncan't search for, for example, "threat"
01:09.46AntiarcI just google "ktm"
01:09.46Kody-actually
01:10.02Kody-yeah i don't think zinor has implemented full text search on the main page yet
01:10.19Kody-http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/search/?q=threat
01:10.36NeoTronwell look at that
01:11.09Kody-yeah the old search did suck, but he's working on getting it replaced :P
01:11.10NeoTrondid that just change just now or what?
01:11.14Kody-no
01:11.17NeoTronI just did a search and got nothing
01:11.27Kody-you have to go to the downloads section before running the query
01:11.31KinkxWhat is SRA? oRA3?
01:11.36NeoTronhttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/search/?q=threat
01:11.38CryectWtf did kenco really say "If you'll actually read my message, you'll perhaps realise that i explained why the blizzard profiler isn't giving an accurate representation of the CPU usage of KTM."
01:11.38NeoTronah that is what I used
01:11.47a-stray-catanyone here use notepad++?
01:11.52CryectObviously Blizzard's profiler is biased against him
01:11.54sbuyep a-stray-cat
01:12.06a-stray-catdo you use the addon for it where it shows the function list for lua on the side?
01:12.20a-stray-catmine, for some reason, is missing a bunch of functions.
01:12.23NeoTronCryect: obviously he's stupid
01:12.34NeoTronI mean regardless of which profiling is correct, his method is just wrong
01:12.35NightHawkTheSaneoh man, i love 2 minute healing/mana stream totems
01:12.46NeoTronlogically speaking it makes no sense
01:12.57CryectI like how he says "Firstly KTM is highly modular, so there are lots of small modules running very small onupdate methods." ignore that other modular addons don't have this issue :-p
01:13.07AntiarcPushing and popping that make function calls DOES incur a performance hit
01:13.11AntiarcThere's no way around that. Sorry.
01:15.40sbuuhm nope a-stray-cat, no addons :)
01:16.09Sedaianyone else use: RatingBuster?
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01:18.16a-stray-catcurses
01:18.25a-stray-catit was working so well too
01:18.28a-stray-cati wonder what i did to break it
01:19.12ThorgardAntiarc, Oy vey.
01:19.27LordRhysquick question: Using Self:RegisterEvent("Event",...) how can I set it to call 2 functions?
01:19.28ThorgardKenco's coming off as a bit of a douche in the comments section. ;P
01:19.35ThorgardSedai, I use it.
01:19.40a-stray-catnevermind! i found it
01:19.50a-stray-cathad 'Sorren\'s Timers'
01:19.55a-stray-catand it doesn't recognize the escape i guess
01:20.07CryectThorgard: I would say thats being nice to him :-p
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01:21.59ThorgardHah. Yeah. ;)
01:22.11XanAnyone here able to answer a quick question about Cartographer?
01:22.55ThorgardXan, the answer will be "Yes, but only after eight shots of Tequila".
01:25.04LordRhysCan you hook 2 functions to an Event using RegisterEvent?
01:25.35bigzerohook a function that calls 2 functions
01:26.22LordRhysthats what I thought I might have to do, was checking if there was another way
01:27.02XanHow do you turn on world pvp objectives in Cart?  I updated it and now they are gone
01:28.19sbuhmmm Cryect
01:28.40sburecount constantly is hat ~4% - is this because of KTM stuff?
01:28.54sbu-h
01:28.55KinkxXan, it's a bug, just be patient
01:29.27LordRhysone more quick question, If I call Self:Disable it will exit the addon and disable it, is that correct?
01:30.06hyperChipmunkit'll call your :OnDisable()
01:30.24XanCryect is noob imo
01:31.02sbuhuh?
01:31.35XanI am just messing with Cryect...he is from my old server
01:31.46LordRhyswhat I want to do is if you aren't the class for this addon but had it enabled on load it will disable it, do I need something in my OnDisable() to complete this?
01:31.56nymbiahttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/#comment_259301 >.>
01:32.40AntiarcGo go go nymbia :D
01:32.52AntiarcI'm going to post CPUManager to that thread
01:32.55AntiarcJust because it needs to be done.
01:33.14nymbiahahaha
01:33.27nymbiaAntiarc: does it just kill some OnUpdates when outta combat?
01:34.35Antiarcnymbia: It kills basically all of them using KTM's internal enable/disable switch depending on whether there's anything interesting going on
01:34.45nymbiahaha
01:34.53AntiarcDisabled when solo with no pet, enabled when in a group and you or a group member targets a hostile, or is in combat.
01:36.36AntiarcPosted _>
01:36.47nymbiahahaha
01:36.50nymbiahe's gonna flip ;)
01:36.53AntiarcI'll probably be half disappointed if he doesn't freak out
01:36.57nymbia./popcorn
01:37.36AntiarcI also posted it to EJ, so it should gain saturation nice and quick.
01:37.37sbuhmm, based on his other comments - he really has to :o
01:38.03NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: it'd be nice if there was an option to disable in solo mode even if you have a pet, hunters locks might not necessarily want/need that
01:39.48sdoubleI've been using trinity bars for a long time, is Bartender3 a good alternative?
01:40.42AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: It enables it if you have a pet.
01:40.56NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: er, yeah, i mean, if you have a pet and dont want it enabled when you're soloing
01:41.07AntiarcOh, hm
01:42.29Solenymbia: what r wrapper?
01:42.39SoleI know the term but I just dont know know it
01:43.54nymbiaSole: just a hook basically
01:44.17Solenymbia: examples work best for my brain :P
01:44.34Solethere must be a difference if theres 2 seperate names
01:44.53CIA-2203toadkiller * r36811 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
01:44.53CIA-22PeriodicTable-3.0:
01:44.53CIA-22-- 22850:2200 Super Rejuvenation
01:44.53CIA-22-- 31677:3200 Fel Mana
01:45.47nymbiaSole: a wrapper is more to check on the function itself, instead of to do something in reaction to the function or to alter it in some way
01:45.48NightHawkTheSanenymbia: oh, i just remembered, not sure if this is intentional or not, but PeriodicTable-Misc doesn't have a .toc, and isn't split out by the lod .sh file..
01:46.01nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: yeah intentional
01:46.14Solenymbia: ok thanks
01:46.19NightHawkTheSanealright, wasn't sure, and i thought it was odd :p
01:46.48nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: the other modules can be loaded on demand because all their sets have a common name, whereas the stuff in misc is all over the place
01:46.52LordRhysnymbia: If I wanted to disable my addon in the :OnInitialize() function do I need to do anything in the :OnDisable() function or just call it?
01:46.57NightHawkTheSanenymbia: ahh, i see.
01:47.10CIA-2203sorren * r36812 10SorrenTimers/ (Localization.lua SorrenTimers.lua options.lua):
01:47.10CIA-22SorrenTimers:
01:47.10CIA-22- Added the ability to set the default group for a skillset
01:47.10CIA-22- Fixed the bar growth ability
01:47.10CIA-22- Um, other stuff I'm sure that I've forgotten.
01:47.18nymbiaLordRhys: self:ToggleActive(false)
01:47.35LordRhysok thanks
01:47.35AntiarcNo kaboom? There's supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!
01:48.42shieldbnymbia, you around?
01:48.47nymbiaAntiarc: that's for when kenco sees your addon
01:48.49nymbiashieldb: sup
01:48.52shieldbwoo
01:49.16Antiarcnymbia: I know! I'm waiting and am thus far disappointed!
01:49.25shieldbon manufac, it doesn't seem to be listing newer JC patterns even with a refresh
01:49.40shieldbi.e. relentless earthstorm
01:49.44nymbiahrm
01:49.49nymbiahit it with a stick
01:49.55shieldbit shows up under "can make" when I've got an earthstorm
01:49.56NightHawkTheSanehm, anyone had their raid icons (seemingly) randomly disappear?
01:50.37bigzeroquick question about AceDD. Let's say originally I had some value in my db, but am no longer using it and remove it from the default value table, will AceDB remove it from the database?
01:51.05CIA-2203sorren * r36813 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers.lua:
01:51.06CIA-22SorrenTimers:
01:51.06CIA-22- When you disable a bar, all bars of that type die.
01:51.10shieldband then for quartz, any chance in bumping up the max length of mirror bars to 500 or whatever the regular bars are capped at?
01:51.32nymbiasure
01:51.44nymbiabigzero: nope
01:52.15nymbiabigzero: just have it nil out in your OnInit for a few versions or something
01:52.38bigzeronymbia, k, thanks
01:52.49shieldbI think I've got my regular bars at ~365 or so, but I can't make mirrorbars longer then 300 ;)
01:57.23ZealotOnAStickI think Kenco is being an ass just because he knows that tons of people are going to use his addon until/unless someone writes one that does the same thing better.
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01:57.45ZealotOnASticksomeone get ckknight into a fight with him.  ;)
01:58.01nymbiahaha
01:58.12ckknightwhat did he write?
01:59.25NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: someone should just write something better. :P
01:59.54Antiarcckknight: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/#comment_259305
01:59.58ckknightah
02:00.01Funkeh`nymbia: you suck
02:00.18Funkeh`nymbia: the error comes from when i disable the 'swing' addon in quartz menu
02:00.22Funkeh`so fix :p
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02:05.10Antiarc269 mods and I'm running at 28mb of UI usage.
02:05.11Antiarc\m/
02:05.17ThorgardAntiarc, :o
02:05.48CIA-2203sorren * r36814 10CooldownTimers2/ (. CooldownTimers2.toc Core.lua fubar-plugin.lua):
02:05.48CIA-22CooldownTimers2:
02:05.49CIA-22- Moved from SurfaceLib to SharedMediaLib.
02:06.15ruinnabluh.. bongos2 api removed possibility of syncing bongos and ace2 profiles.. :(
02:07.40ruinnai'm tempted to start work on bt3 to narrow the gap :/
02:07.56ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: 269 mods, or 269 folders?
02:09.23AntiarcFolders
02:09.38AntiarcBut I install without externals and then install libs
02:09.40AntiarcSo eh
02:10.15Diaoi could cut down my ui usage if i took out stuff like mobinfo :(
02:10.30Thorgard232 directories and 33mb UI.
02:10.37LordRhysWill self:RegisterEvent("ACTIONBAR_SLOT_CHANGED","functionname(arg1)") work?
02:11.37ckknightno
02:11.44Aenslaedhrm...
02:11.48ckknightl
02:11.50Aenslaedsraidframes is using 10mb
02:11.53Aenslaed:/
02:11.56ckknightLordRhys: don't put the (arg1)
02:12.30LordRhysckknight: ok will the function receive that value anyway?
02:12.33SoleWAU isn't supposed to delete the libs folder in every addon when I set it to install without externals, right?
02:12.36ckknightyes
02:12.42LordRhysok thanks
02:14.50CIA-2203fenlis * r36815 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/OutfitterFuLocale-koKR.lua:
02:14.50CIA-22FuBar_OutfitterFu :
02:14.50CIA-22<PROTECTED>
02:16.45CIA-2203sorren * r36816 10TrackingInfo/TrackingInfo.lua:
02:16.45CIA-22TrackingInfo:
02:16.45CIA-22- Fixed an ancient nil error. I don't think anyone but me uses this mod anyway!
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02:18.41NightHawkTheSanewhat does "linkify common messages" mean in prat? o_0
02:18.43Funkeh`Sole: the server removes the libs folder
02:18.46Funkeh`not wau
02:18.51Toufaswhy cartographer doesnt display the halaa status anymore ?:S
02:19.14Toufasr36639 version
02:19.20CIA-2203sorren * r36817 10TrackingInfo/TrackingInfo.lua:
02:19.20CIA-22TrackingInfo:
02:19.20CIA-22- Ugh.
02:20.30ckknighthalaa means nothing to me
02:21.11sylvanaarmakes player names -> player links
02:22.53sylvanaarI updated glorylib around 36700
02:22.56NightHawkTheSanethanks
02:22.57SoleFunkeh`: well it didnt for me, but oh well. my load time is faster so I dont care too much
02:23.34Funkeh`did you turn on deletebefor extract?
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02:23.43Funkeh`it downloads the no-ext zip files
02:24.45Funkeh`ckknight: halla is the place in nagrand
02:24.49Funkeh`pvp objective
02:24.56CIA-2203antiarc * r36818 10KTMCPUManager/KTMCPUManager.lua: KTMCPUManager: Fixed a bug that caused KTM to not get switched on with a party size of 2.
02:24.58ckknightI blame gnomes
02:25.39Funkeh`wtb instancemaps fix!
02:26.30sylvanaartheres an extra return value local _, _, s = GetWorldStateUIInfo(1) if you call it
02:27.16art3mishttp://www.codeweavers.com/products/]
02:27.19art3miserr
02:27.20art3mishttp://www.codeweavers.com/products/
02:27.26art3misanyone tried that for playing wow?
02:27.46Toufasso there is nothing i can do to fix the halaa problem?
02:27.49Toufasor the instance map fix
02:28.13ckknightgimme $50
02:28.18ckknightthat'll give me motivation to fix it
02:28.34ckknightcurrently watching Lost
02:28.55Toufasah did you see the dragon part yet?
02:29.00vhaarrart3mis: Don't need it, wine works fine.
02:29.03ckknightdon't give anything away
02:29.05Toufashaha
02:29.07Toufasi am joking :P
02:29.12ckknightk
02:30.03NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: no, but i'd be curious to see how well it'd run wow through it on osx
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02:30.57AntiarcSo I'm running my wife's alt through Gnome with CPU profiling on
02:31.18AntiarcSo far: Ace2 23 sec. KTM: 15 sec. DamageMEters: 6.4 sec.
02:31.35AntiarcAnd that's WITH my disable thingy mod
02:32.12CryectYou better use Kenco's special ways that only hooks functions that are called on updates
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02:33.03CIA-2203funkydude * r36819 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: bugfix
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02:39.21NightHawkTheSanefucking hate douchebags camping tm
02:39.34sylvanaarrunning dark messiah puts my ups into oveload and the alarm goes off
02:40.08art3misanyone have an intel mac?
02:40.36CIA-2203evilelvis * r36820 10eePanels/core.lua: eePanels - removed previous change
02:41.28IndustrialThe Washington Post has an article about a team of American and Irish researchers that have discovered that some female sharks can reproduce without having sex,
02:41.44Industrialbet you'd feel fucked *badoom tisch*
02:43.02Solenymbia: shorten this variable name   predict_opposing_roster
02:43.11Soleit must still make sense, but not be cryptic  kgo!
02:43.31art3mishttp://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/cat/?cat_id=55
02:43.33Antiarcguess_enemies
02:43.39art3miswow they did an awesome job with thier wine mod
02:43.47SoleI like it Antiarc
02:43.58art3misbest thing it seems is that it doesnt even need a new partition or even a windows install
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02:52.08CIA-2203funkydude * r36821 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: attempt #2 at fixing 'arcane orb target' wierdness
02:53.02Garounwhat's the default pet actionbar frame name?
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03:06.59Toufasanyone knows of an addon called Focus bar  ?
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03:12.28CIA-2203morgalm * r36822 10FuBar_ExitFu/FuBar_ExitFu.toc:
03:12.28CIA-22FuBar_ExitFu:
03:12.28CIA-22- TOC update
03:12.55CIA-2203morgalm * r36823 10FuBar_ReloadUI/FuBar_ReloadUI.toc:
03:12.55CIA-22FuBar_ReloadUI:
03:12.55CIA-22- TOC update
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03:21.40CIA-2203damjau * r36824 10cyCircled/plugins/ (AspectBar.lua TrackerBar.lua):
03:21.40CIA-22cyCircled:
03:21.40CIA-22fix plugins(AspectBar, TrackerBar)
03:23.43vhaarrart3mis: wine doesn't need a windows partition or install.
03:23.52vhaarrWoW works out of the box, just fine.
03:23.53art3misyeah thats all crossover is
03:23.59art3misenhanced wine
03:24.07art3misi think its what the lindows guys moved on to
03:24.20art3misthier modded wine was rpetty rad a few years ago
03:24.29art3misleeching it to see how it behaves tomorrow
03:24.54vhaarrno point asking a question if you already made up your mind
03:25.19art3misi asked if anyone had played with it ;P
03:25.57art3misgonna try out linux-xp too
03:25.57art3misfor shits and giggles
03:26.16vhaarrah, so you did, sorry
03:26.38art3misi sorta want some advanced warning if ist gonna fuck up and make be wanna kill penguins again ;P
03:26.46art3misyou have a intel mac?
03:27.23vhaarrno, regular pc
03:27.27art3misnix?
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03:27.37vhaarryes
03:27.44art3miswanna play with it?
03:27.48vhaarrno
03:27.57art3misno?
03:28.18tsigoany way to dump the Mobhealth3 database so I can see HP totals without targetting something?
03:28.22vhaarrwine works fine, I don't need to spend time trying for a replacement when I don't need it
03:28.37vhaarrtsigo: It should be in your savedvars directory already.
03:28.38tsigoassuming I don't store it across sessions
03:28.44vhaarrah
03:28.48vhaarr<PROTECTED>
03:28.50art3misfine != awesome!
03:30.31tsigovhaarr: ah ha. it's stored as a local var but it's got an accessor function, so good to go!
03:30.39vhaarrtsigo: indeed
03:30.58vhaarr~seen ag`
03:31.26purlag` <n=ag`@0x535f749b.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 6h 49m 2s ago, saying: 'XCOM oh snap'.
03:32.07Fisker-i lol'd :(
03:32.43vhaarrAny thoughts on a 'harness tester' that would invoke all the accessable functions, change all available variables in an addon until it produces an error?
03:32.57vhaarretc
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03:33.56vhaarrwould have to special-case some stuff, of course, like OnInit/Enable
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03:37.55ckknightwell, I watched Lost
03:38.11ckknightinteresting ending
03:38.20ckknightnot sure whether to like it or not
03:39.30FortehAnyone else having a freezing problem while loading up after dcing in a raid?
03:43.12SHIFT_nismohow much you think i should sell Valanos' Longbow
03:44.57tsigoForteh: a few people in my guild
03:45.04ZealotOnAStick~seen nymbia
03:45.45purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 47m 44s ago, saying: 'haha'.
03:45.46art3mishttp://www.objectiveministries.org/creation/sciencefair.html\
03:45.46art3mishttp://www.objectiveministries.org/creation/sciencefair.html
03:45.46vhaarrForteh: It seems to be a general unit frame problem in raids.
03:45.46vhaarrForteh: Happens with agUF and PitBull, at least.
03:47.09syerenSomeone needs to fix MendWatch :(
03:47.16syerenSick of gettnig 1000s of errors :/
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03:48.41theoddone33so I just want to make sure I understand this... when my thing says ace2 uses 4.2M of memory, that's just because it's one of the first things loaded and it's used by so much stuff?
03:48.53syerenPretty much.
03:49.40syerenckknight, fix MendWatch with your golden fingers!
03:49.42theoddone33ok
03:49.58ckknightI'll fix your mom with my golden fingers
03:50.05syerenOh Oh oh!
03:52.09Fisker-BURN
03:55.05syeren[2007/05/25 04:48:21-1042-x1]: MendWatch-0.1\MendWatch.lua:380: attempt to concatenate field 'amount' (a nil value)
03:55.05syerenParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:449: in function <...terface\AddOns\ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:449>
03:55.07syeren:(
03:55.21Solehow can I detect when waterfall is closed?
04:04.39Fisker-btw doesn't the items get destroyed/unlootable if you pass on items in a chest?
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04:05.58Diao?
04:06.19Diaohow can you pass on items in a chest
04:06.57Fisker-they changed it in 2.1.0
04:07.09Fisker-now a need/greed box is made when looting a chest
04:07.10Diaooh
04:07.13Diaoi see
04:07.28Fisker-but i heard it was to stop people from exploiting stuff like the majordomo chest and the chess event chest in karazhan
04:07.39Diaoer
04:07.42Fisker-so i was wondering if it would then like destroy the items or something if you passed :P
04:07.45Diaoi thoguht they just made it so you weren't able to loot
04:07.51Diaoif you weren't in the group that killed it
04:07.58Fisker-ah like that
04:08.06Diaodidn't know they added a need/greed to chests
04:08.49CodayusA bit odd...but yes, they did.
04:09.10CodayusWhich may change how/if you can give Chess event loot to people outside the raid.
04:09.48Diaoi doubt the loot gets destroyed if everyone passes
04:09.52Diaoit'll probably be like a monster corpse
04:10.01Diaoyou all pass, loot stays there until someone loots it
04:10.15Fisker-yeah
04:10.20CodayusThat'd make sense.  I'm KINDA guessing they just "ported" the corpse loot system to chests.
04:10.49CodayusBut not sure when/if it tags people as being eligible for loot.
04:11.11CodayusWhen it's first opened?  Probably NOT when it spawns.
04:11.38Diaomm
04:11.42Diaowhy not
04:11.43kergothgoddamnit
04:11.51kergothboth quartz and pt3browser are not functional, and there are no errors
04:11.53Diaoit'd be like boss corpses wouldn't it
04:11.58Diaoo_O
04:12.02Diaoquartz is working fine for me
04:12.05kergothframexml doesnt show shit cause the log isnt long enough to catch all the startup messages
04:12.09kergothquartz works fine for me by itself
04:12.14kergothsome other addon is breaking these
04:12.15Fisker-it's probably when it's first opened
04:12.16Diaooh
04:12.22Diaomm
04:12.23kergothand i have 250 addons to try to figure out which..
04:12.27CodayusDiao: Well, the roll system is used for normal chests now, including in 5-mans.  If it tags people when the chest spawns, then if you swap people out halfway through a 5-man, and later find a chest, not everyone could roll.
04:12.31Diaobinary search it kergoth
04:12.40Diaotrue
04:12.42Diaowell
04:12.43Diaomaybe normal chests
04:12.44kergoththats the plan.. still a pain in the ass due to the interface to enable/disable the addons
04:12.45Diaoand boss chests
04:12.47Diaoare different
04:12.50CodayusHowever, they might use different systems for boss chests and normal chests.
04:12.54NightHawkTheSaneCodayus: wait, it tags people when they spawn, and not when its opened?
04:13.08Diaonot sure
04:13.09CodayusNightHawkTheSane: I have no idea, I'm saying that's probably why it DOESN'T do that, but I haven't tested.
04:13.16NightHawkTheSaneCodayus: ahh
04:13.41Diaocause i do remember them saying something about fixing a bug where people could get loot from chests that spawn after a boss dies
04:13.43Diaolike chess event
04:13.49Diaoeven if they weren't present for the kill
04:14.02CodayusAh?  Well.
04:14.12CodayusGood change I guess.
04:14.30CodayusThe whole "Kings Defender for everyone and their alt" thing was...obviously broken, even if kinda nice.
04:15.05Codayus(Of course, since people have been doing the same thing with Domo's chest forever...ummm...  Gee, Bliz fixes bugs fast, no?)
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04:20.53NightHawkTheSanelol. gg blizzard. introduced pet skills "Avoidance" and  "Cobra Reflexes", you can train them at any level, but your pet cant learn them until level 30 (60 for rank 1 avoidance)
04:20.58NightHawkTheSaneer, rank 2 i meant
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04:21.29hyperChipmunkyou need avoidance before level 30?
04:21.46nymbiaso then my power supply decided: lol i think i'll short out now.
04:21.47NightHawkTheSaneno, but i can buy the skill from the pet trainer guy :P
04:21.59Diaolol
04:22.02hyperChipmunknothin' wrong with that
04:22.03Funkeh`nymbia: did you get my earlier message?
04:22.08nymbiaFunkeh`: nope
04:22.21Funkeh`nymbia: my previous quartz error is caused by disabling the swing module
04:22.27NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: not wrong, just.. lazy. they slapped the skill in there without any real consideration.
04:22.30nymbiaodd
04:22.35hyperChipmunkFunkeh`: you mean the one where you called him the son of a motherless whore?
04:22.40Funkeh`yeah
04:22.47Funkeh`damn slut
04:22.49hyperChipmunkeh, no harm done except to morons who can't read
04:22.50nymbiashit, call my irc computer that
04:23.11nymbiait runs for about 30 seconds then shuts down, but it's definitely not a processor heat issue..
04:23.16Funkeh`nymbia: basically deleted my saved vars, disabled each module i didn't want 1 by 1 and used /rl, and it errord afetr disabling swing
04:23.20hyperChipmunkit doesn't like you
04:23.25nymbiahyperChipmunk: indeed.
04:23.35sedatedChipmunkI don't like you, either!
04:23.38CIA-2203funkydude * r36825 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: updated for patch 2.1
04:23.52NightHawkTheSaneAntiar1, Antiarc|Work: pint
04:23.55NightHawkTheSaneping, even. bah
04:24.08nymbiaFunkeh`: ok, i'll work on that after i finish cooking food and smacking this computer around
04:24.32nymbiaPS: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/#comment_259362 lol
04:24.34Funkeh`ok nymbia, ill work on smacking sedatedChipmunk around
04:24.40nymbiaFunkeh`: sounds good
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04:27.07NightHawkTheSanenymbia: lol. "you're using different units, this confuses and angers me, therefor you must be wrong!"
04:27.40NightHawkTheSanealso, lol, the serpent flesh icon is no longer a penis.
04:28.53Funkeh`A PENIS?!?
04:28.59kergothafter diabling a bunch of addons, now quartz works.
04:29.03kergothand pt3browser still doesnt show up
04:29.07kergothsomething very strange is going on
04:30.34nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: yeah lol
04:30.57nymbiakergoth: PT3Browser's got FuBar set as a LoadManager, which doesnt actually work yet.
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04:31.11Fisker-stop highlighting me Funkeh` :(
04:31.29nymbiaFisker-:
04:31.31nymbiaFisker-: your mother
04:31.36Funkeh`Fisker-: penis?
04:31.42nymbiaFisker-: Fisker-
04:32.16Fisker-your mother nymbia
04:32.17kergothnymbia, ahh... so it works fine if you run it with fubar not loaded, but not if you have fubar loaded..
04:32.21kergothokay, that explains that..
04:32.22CIA-2203cryect * r36826 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Fixes one of the bugs with the graph involving data sets that aren't within the combat range resulting in further data sets not displaying.
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04:32.34kergothdunno why quartz doesnt seem to show up and has no errors when i have all my addons enabled though :\
04:32.34nymbiakergoth: lol yeah, just delete that toc line for now
04:32.38kergothhrm
04:32.56nymbiakergoth: supplyanddemand, maybe? i added it as a LoadManager for most of my addons
04:33.28Funkeh`nymbia: why would you do that huh?!?
04:33.30kergothi have s&d loaded, and quartz is working here, with a random bunch of the addons in my set disabled.. if i reenable all those, then it goes boom
04:33.37Fisker-i don't have supplyanddemand i believe
04:33.53nymbiaFunkeh`: so peoples can LoD stuff! ;)
04:33.57Fisker-unless it's included in some package
04:34.01kergoth<3 s&d
04:34.02Funkeh`pfft
04:34.13kergothi use s&d all over the place, especially for class specific addons
04:34.18kergothX-S&D-Class ftw
04:34.44NightHawkTheSanei should get s&d..
04:34.53NightHawkTheSanei should also wash dishes.i'm out of bowls.
04:35.02Funkeh`even my mom has s&d how can you not have it
04:35.10nymbialol
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04:35.35NightHawkTheSaneum.. well..
04:35.40NightHawkTheSanePENIS!
04:35.41NightHawkTheSane~flee
04:35.55purlACTION runs away screaming
04:35.55Funkeh`lol
04:36.01Funkeh`* Fisker- becomes enraged *
04:36.04Fisker-i still hate blizzard btw
04:36.17Fisker-i mean seriously
04:36.30Fisker-What gamebreaking exploitz are there that made them totally screw up my picnic basket?
04:37.04Fisker-OMG HE'S HAVING A PICNIC, GET HIM!
04:37.23Diaopicnic basket?
04:37.46Fisker-Novelty Item from the UDE TCG
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04:38.00Diaooh
04:38.02Fisker-in 2.1.0 it can't be used in instances anymore
04:38.14CryectNightHawkTheSane: playing the penis game are we?
04:38.20Fisker-obviously it was exploited to line of sight several splash damage effects
04:38.26Fisker-cause it has an umbrella
04:38.29kergothhas ck fixed cart instances yet?
04:38.35kergothor is it still showing the zone map on top of the instance map?
04:38.39ckknightsure haven't
04:38.51kergothalrighty then
04:39.05ckknighthaven't looked into it, either
04:39.09ckknightI may later today
04:39.19JacksonCan anyone recommend an addon that switches mount gear when you mount/umount?
04:39.40ckknightbut I have about an hour and fifteen till I'm done watching Oz S3
04:39.43nymbiaClosetGnome_Mount
04:39.55JacksonWouldn't that require ClosetGnome?
04:40.03vhaarryes it would
04:40.11kergothdoesnt MountMe do that, if you want standalone?
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04:40.53Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Picnic_Basket&action=history <-QQ
04:43.07JaxonHmm, I'll check out MountMe.
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04:43.12Cryecthaha was it instant cast before? so I guess people were using it in the air or something
04:43.34CryectYou couldn't land on the umbrella could you?
04:44.06Fisker-no
04:44.18Fisker-it has no hitbox what-so-ever
04:44.35nymbialol
04:44.41Fisker-and you couldn't put it in the air
04:45.17nymbiaFisker-: did it shoot 40000 damage fireballs at bosses?
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04:45.54Fisker-i'm guessing it was used against stuff like "Rain of Fire" and "Geyser"
04:46.06Fisker-it's an umbrella!
04:46.10nymbialol
04:46.51CryectProlly Hurricane
04:52.21Fisker-god
04:52.27Fisker-leveling fishing suck
04:52.29Fisker-s
04:52.42KeiasDidn't they buff it?
04:52.43Fisker-wtb bot
04:52.49Keiashalved the time, ect
04:52.56Fisker-then sucks less than it did
04:53.02Fisker-then it*
04:53.14Fisker-but that isn't saying much
04:57.37a-stray-catno, it sucks more now
04:57.45a-stray-catbecause when you catch something at the end
04:57.52a-stray-catyou have like 50ms to click it
04:57.54a-stray-catbefore it fades
04:58.01a-stray-catand half the time it ends up at the end :/
04:58.13a-stray-catso you can't webbrowse or chat at the same time
05:09.25Funkeh`later
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05:13.08kergothnymbia, i dont see how you'll be able to fix pt3browser with fubar as the loadmanager.  i dont think there's an api call to query for an addon's loadmanagers field, and fubar doesnt load every lod addon out there, only ones that requireddep's on it...
05:13.25kergothwait, can you query for optionaldeps? i didnt check
05:14.30kergothdoesnt look like it
05:17.10CIA-2203nevcairiel 072.1 * r36827 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_BarStates.lua): Bartender3: this should work perfectly now
05:20.19CIA-2203kergoth * r36828 10kEnergy/kEnergy.toc: kEnergy: set LoadManagers to 'SupplyAndDemand'.
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05:22.45nymbiakergoth: my suggestion was to have FuBar look for a metadata field, but i think some were hoping that loadmanagers could be returned in GetAddOnDependancies (or whatever that call is)
05:26.03bigzerocan anyone suggest an ace addon that I could look at to see how to make a dropdown list in waterfall?
05:27.17vhaarrbigzero: Just feed it a standard aceoptions table.
05:27.52bigzeroI've never made a dropdown list with aceoptions table
05:29.22vhaarrYou use a text type with a validate=<table>.
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05:33.30kergothnymbia, ah
05:34.46CIA-2203maudy * r36829 10ClassColors/ClassColors.toc: ClassColors: TOC updated for 2.1
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05:36.53ckknighttoday's xkcd is good, in a heart-warming way
05:39.38Silviu-Cartographer_Quests , SpellEventsLib, StatLogicLib, TipHookerLib, need a toc change ;)
05:41.42nymbiaTipHookerLib should have its toc changed to 1.12, tbh.
05:41.50nymbiathat's as far as its usefulness went.
05:41.56kebinusanls
05:42.18Neeblerhttp://halbot.haluze.sk/images/2004-05/209_lock_cup.jpg
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05:44.46bigzeroin a text type in aceoptions, with validate = <table>, what would get and set do?
05:45.40kergoththe same thing they do in any 'text'
05:45.48kergothusing a validate table doesnt change the behavior of the functions.
05:46.11ckknightgah, I'm like constantly hungry now
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05:51.38GokieWhew, finally had some time since 2.1 to mess with mods... what exactly is up with the chat channels? Chan 3 is reserved and invisible?
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05:53.09Neeblerchannel 3 is the LFG channel
05:54.16Keiasckknight, you're pregnant
05:54.18Gokiehrm... but I'm not actually in the LFG channel... /3 just gets me nothing
05:54.30ckknightKeias: doubt it, I'm male
05:54.37KeiasNever seen Junior?
05:54.49Icerothopen the LFG panel, start looking for any group and you join the channel, then you can just /leave 3
05:54.50ckknightsure have
05:54.52ckknightlol.
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05:55.17Gokieaha
05:55.21Gokieis that permanent?
05:55.31Icerothworked for me
05:55.37Gokiecool
05:58.31GokieIceroth: seem to have worked, thanks
05:58.47Icerothnp :)
05:58.50Gokienow to see if copying chat-cache works too, or if I'll have to do it on every character
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06:00.33a-stray-catIceroth: i added the ability to set a default group for a set of skills for you (like enemy skill => another group)
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06:01.10Icerothneat
06:01.44Icerothnow, what else should i wish.. :)
06:02.12bigzerofor AceDB, if i want to save options individually for each character, but want to be able to access those options from other characters I would have to register my DB either with the same name profile or "account" and then have a list of characters with their options in that table?
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06:03.02a-stray-catcurses, i've created an endless loop in another addon
06:03.04vhaarrbigzero: That would work fine.
06:03.34Icerothnothing is more beautiful than buggrabber notifying "C stack overflow"
06:03.41bigzerovhaarr, alright
06:03.47a-stray-catit doesn't for me
06:03.49ZealotOnASticknymbia: Tradeskill merge bar rocks.
06:03.50a-stray-catit just locks up
06:03.53a-stray-catand stays locked up
06:04.01Iceroththat blows :)
06:04.13Icerothbut then again, endless loop doesn't increase the stack so..
06:04.28Icerothi'll just stick to filling my stacks then
06:04.36nymbiaZealotOnAStick: blame kergoth ;)
06:05.11rophydoes GetItemInfo() cost memory/CPU on every call? If I'll be calling GetItemInfo() multiple times, should I cache the results I want or just call it multiple times?
06:05.39nymbiarophy: depends how much you'll be calling it
06:05.43vhaarrrophy: I'd cache it, since they accept so many types of input.
06:06.06rophywhat do you mean 'accept so many types of input'? vhaarr?
06:06.19rophyitemID, itemLink, itemName etc?
06:06.19a-stray-catah hah, i found it.
06:06.22nymbiaids or links or names or..
06:06.24vhaarrrophy: yes
06:06.42vhaarrTheir backend is likely tricky as to resolving the actual item, with various paths, which means that it's probably faster to cache it in a hashmap.
06:06.55Wobwork=\
06:06.59rophyhmm, so you mean, since they accept multiple types of input, it's likely that the call will be slow?
06:07.02WobworkIt used to not be that way
06:07.06Wobworkwell, slower
06:07.06vhaarrrophy: exactly
06:07.12rophyhmm...
06:07.18vhaarrrophy: Just think about it.
06:07.19WobworkTricksyness is it's own curse
06:07.25vhaarrIn the end, it all has to end up as one format.
06:07.30vhaarrWhich one is the fastest path?
06:07.32vhaarrYou can't know.
06:07.32rophyif it doesn't cast memory on every call, then it's a trade off between memory or speed.
06:07.37Wobworkvhaarr: The downhill one
06:07.38vhaarryes
06:07.45vhaarrWobwork: ah, thanks! jeez
06:07.49Wobwork^^
06:07.49rophyi'll have to judge if i want speed or space.
06:07.55vhaarrrophy: right
06:08.05vhaarrrophy: For things that go OnUpdate, I'd go with speed.
06:08.07Wobworkrophy: Just give it enough legroom, and make it fast =)
06:08.15Wobwork(and red)
06:08.20vhaarrrophy: Like Banzai-1.1, I cache whatever I can there.
06:08.37Icerothi'd simply test it if you are that concerned about it really
06:08.42vhaarrIt increased the mem usage from ~3kb to ~10kb, but I don't care.
06:09.18rophyit's another OneStorage type mod, so I'll be saving all items across all characters.
06:09.29rophycaching 5~6 fields from GetItemInfo would cost some memory.
06:09.39vhaarrouch, yeah
06:09.46vhaarrrophy: But it's also an addon that would be used a lot.
06:09.51vhaarrAll the time.
06:10.17rophybut it isn't very time critical i think.
06:10.27Icerothopening the main bag imo is
06:10.29rophysince i mostly will be using it when im at bank or trading etc
06:10.34Icerothor, "own bags"
06:10.38rophyit's not a bag replacement, just a databaes
06:10.45vhaarrah
06:10.46rophythat i can search if i have something on a char
06:11.39vhaarrrophy: I'd worry more about db size, then.
06:11.50WobworkBy the time you open your bag, find what you want to search for and get to the dialog, you can load on demand, (bag open) as it were
06:11.56vhaarrAnd keep the memory usage to a minimum.
06:12.13rophyhmm, calling GetItemInfo() multiple times on the same itemID seems to only cost memory once.
06:12.30rophyin that case may be I'll just call it multiple times, no caching multiple fields from GetItemInfo
06:12.42vhaarryeah sounds good
06:13.34Wobwork"The result, code-named Intel mobile Metro notebook, is less than 0.7 inches thick—about one-quarter of an inch thicker than Motorola's (MOT) iconic cell phone, making it the world's thinnest notebook. And at 2.25 pounds, it's also one of the lightest small-sized portable computers."
06:13.36Wobwork>,
06:13.38Wobwork<
06:13.46WobworkYou could so snap that =P
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06:14.01nymbiaor just look at it funny
06:14.03CodayusHmm, anyone else getting freezes when they try to log back in after DCing during a raid?  :-/
06:14.16nymbiaCodayus: i heard it was xperl doing that
06:14.22vhaarrno
06:14.26nymbiaCodayus: if you don't use it then, /shrug
06:14.27vhaarrIt's *all* unit frame addons.
06:14.28Codayusxperl might do it, but I'm not using it.
06:14.35nymbiahtm
06:14.37vhaarragUF, PitBull, xPerl, etc.
06:14.39vhaarrThey all do it.
06:14.42CodayusI use PitBull and Grid...
06:14.45vhaarrIt must be a blizzard bug.
06:14.51nymbiawell i use grid as my raid frames and havent had any problems
06:15.00vhaarrI didn't mention grid :P
06:15.07nymbiaindeed ;)
06:15.24Icerothoh, not only in my head then
06:15.26CodayusI still use Pitbull for player, target, and ToT in raids.  Hmm
06:15.53CodayusAlso, I had it happen in a heroic sethekk halls too.  Haven't tested in non-heroic.
06:15.54Icerothfunny thing is that the split second freeze doesn't register as fps drop
06:17.02CodayusTo clarify - the freeze I'm encountering is permanent, and requires me to kill the WoW process.  :-(
06:17.35vhaarrYou don't need to clarify.
06:17.53CodayusK, wasn't sure if that was what everyone else was talking about.  :-)
06:17.54Icerothoh, it's me who is talking about different matter then
06:17.58WobworkI've actually been unable to quit cleanly since the patch
06:18.12*** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater | Yes, custom unit frames are freezing your WoW client.
06:18.15WobworkIt just hangs =(
06:18.33CodayusIncidentally, the work around I found was to have the raid/party leader kick me, log in, and have them invite me.
06:18.48Wobworkhm did they fix those party problems in the patch?
06:18.49Fisker-rawr vhaarr?
06:18.54CodayusWhich kinda makes sense, but it's still weird.
06:20.18Fisker-what's the problem?
06:20.29Wobworksylvanaar: You're so cruel
06:23.33sylvanaarhaha
06:23.41sylvanaarit was too easy
06:24.00CIA-2203kergoth * r36830 10ClassTimer/Bars/Hunter.lua: ClassTimer: Hunter Bars: add Rapid Fire and Quick Shots.
06:24.21sylvanaari wasnt doing it to be mean, it was supposed to be funny
06:24.40CIA-2203kergoth * r36831 10ClassTimer/Bars/Hunter.lua: ClassTimer: Hunter Bars: the buff for the Frenzy talent is 'Frenzy Effect', not 'Frenzy'.
06:26.04CIA-2203kergoth * r36832 10ClassTimer/ (Core.lua Locales/enUS.lua Locales/koKR.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: add the 'pet' unit, so things like Bestial Wrath and Frenzy Effect in the hunter bars definition are actually useful. Ominous: feel free to revert and lart me if you don't like this commit.
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06:28.31Wobwork~lart kergoth
06:28.32purlbeats kergoth severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken
06:28.34CIA-2203sorren * r36833 10CooldownTimers2/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua fubar-plugin.lua):
06:28.34CIA-22CooldownTimers2:
06:28.34CIA-22- Added an option to 'pulse' a bar when you try to use a skill that's on cooldown
06:28.38kergothWobwork, thanks
06:28.39kergoth:P
06:28.52Zorkmidwow sucks
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06:31.55nymbiaPunkie`: no
06:33.12Punkie`butbut :(
06:33.55Punkie`nymbia: does that mean pt3bar is awesome now?!!!!
06:34.02nymbialol
06:34.05nymbianope
06:34.12nymbiai havent been able to work on any addons today
06:34.25nymbiamost of it was spend fixing my damn power supply
06:34.31Punkie`ouch#
06:34.56Punkie`that's a bit of a ballache
06:35.04Punkie`anyway, breakfast!
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06:39.03theoddone3358 is the new 60
06:42.35art3miswhy does a moon rock taste better than an earth rock? because it's a little meteor
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06:45.29Punkie`art3mis: depends where you eat it!
06:46.21nymbiahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909657&sid=1&pageNo=2#35
06:46.35KeiasI don't see you with a Fungineering Degree!
06:47.21nymbia~emulate fry
06:47.42purlSpace. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
06:48.51CIA-2203kergoth * r36834 10ClassTimer/Bars/Hunter.lua: ClassTimer: Hunter Bars: add Mend Pet, since it's a Heal Over Time spell now.
06:50.35nymbiaman
06:50.56nymbiakenco's got a pretty high opinion of himself if he thinks his functions are only taking 10 microseconds
06:53.02ckknightsomeone needs a bitchslap...
06:53.02nymbiackknight: i've given him a couple now
06:53.02nymbiackknight: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/#comment_259362
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06:53.02Iceroth10^-5 seconds per function? that _is_ fast
06:53.03nymbiaIceroth: seriously.
06:53.32Icerothi wonder why did they ever bother using C code at blizz, they should have coded everything in lua if it's that fast
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06:54.46nymbiaIceroth: lol
06:55.50ZealotOnAStickQuick, someone make outrageous claims about addon performance in femtoseconds!
06:56.39nymbiaIceroth: the other hilarious thing is that he thinks enabling profiling causes functions to take 4 times as long as normal
06:58.06Icerothwould kinda defeat the whole purpose of having such profiler, eh?)
06:58.16vhaarrnot really, no
06:58.30nymbiaobviously KLHPerformanceMonitor is a better tool
06:58.33nymbiaor as kenco would say:
06:58.45nymbiaIn conclusion, sorry your profiler is wrong, try KLHPerformanceMonitor instead, kthx.
06:58.49vhaarrIceroth: It doesn't matter as long as it's a static multiplier.
06:59.09Punkie`What's the only part of a cabbage you don't eat?
06:59.19Kalman|The cabbage.
06:59.23nymbiaburn
06:59.26Icerothvhaarr, agreed
06:59.27Punkie`The wheelchair
06:59.34Punkie`budum tch
06:59.37Iceroth:D
06:59.43vhaarrIceroth: right, so it doesn't defeat the purpose of having a profiler :P
07:00.10Icerothi didn't express myself really well i guess, meant that if it doesn't reflect to the real world values
07:00.23vhaarrthat's true, but they're not really useful either.
07:00.39Punkie`Does KLHPerformanceMeter actually show KLH as a low usage addon?
07:01.02nymbiaPunkie`: probably, heh
07:01.02vhaarrPunkie`: of course it does, why else would he write it?
07:01.02vhaarr:P
07:01.12Punkie`damn
07:01.39Punkie`I've never used KLH, but I know you're evil plans vhaarr!
07:01.44vhaarr:(
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07:04.46CIA-2203ckknight * r36835 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/InstanceMaps.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - make sure to hide detail tiles when showing an instance.
07:04.46Punkie`Tabletlib really surprised me though
07:04.47ckknightPunkie`: it does some complicated calculations, based on what other addons feed it.
07:05.02vhaarrReally, the addons that use it just have to keep their display refreshes to a minimum.
07:05.46Punkie`ckknight: I did think of that, but it's still rather high
07:06.02ckknightPunkie`: be my guest to try to optimize it
07:06.19Punkie`I wouldn't know where to start ^^
07:07.36NimbleRabit*sighs* I just did a bunch of statistical tests on data I've been collecting for 2 months for my final stats project only to find out I didn't get enough data and the tests were basically meaningless
07:07.49ckknighthrm
07:08.38NimbleRabitand I think some massive bias somehow got into my results
07:08.39NimbleRabit=/
07:09.16Punkie`Did you ask them if you were annoying in the questionnaire?
07:09.27NimbleRabitwell it was an email questionnaire
07:09.31NimbleRabitlol
07:09.35Loki|muhnymbia: nice flame with kenco at the curse-forums *thumbsup* :)
07:09.42nymbiaLoki|muh: lol
07:10.02Punkie`nymbia: Any reason why pt3browser fails to load? :(
07:10.11Punkie`omg drama, gotta see
07:10.22kergothPunkie`, kill the LoadManagers line from its .toc
07:10.45Punkie`well I have fubar
07:10.52kergothyes, you do.  remove the loadmanagers line
07:10.53CIA-2203kergoth * r36836 10ClassTimer/Bars/Hunter.lua: ClassTimer: Hunter Bars: add 'Boar Charge', a boar pet ability.
07:10.56kergothfubar isnt loading it
07:10.58nymbiathat's what's making it not load
07:11.01nymbiaspeaking of, ckknight ping
07:11.47nymbiackknight: slouken says they aren't gonna be changing the LoadManagers behavior, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1&pageNo=2#26
07:12.31ZealotOnAStickwhere is this KLHPerformanceMonitor anyway?
07:12.41nymbiai dunno
07:12.58Punkie`nymbia: omg "err.. 'your profiler is wrong'? It's the built-in one, bro." awesome
07:13.08nymbiarofl :D
07:13.23ckknightslouken needs to get the stick out of his ass, imho
07:13.29ckknightmaybe I'm overreacting
07:13.52CIA-2203mok * r36837 10xchar/xchar.lua: xchar: fixed typo
07:14.22ckknighthey, was someone having issues with Cartographer, btw?
07:14.26ckknightinstances and all?
07:14.31ckknightif so, update and test
07:15.29Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/threadnecro.JPG
07:15.29Fisker-:D
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07:17.05wobin_http://userpic.livejournal.com/62069060/844841
07:18.42Punkie`evl: quick craft me sum gems!
07:18.49evl:D
07:18.54evlat work, it will have to wait
07:19.15Punkie`^^
07:19.22[Ammo]haha
07:19.36Fisker-i can login on your char and craft them for him evl !
07:19.38[Ammo]time to delete my old oCD addon
07:19.43Fisker-just give me your account details !
07:19.47[Ammo]it ate more CPU than Ace2 standalone yesterday
07:19.57[Ammo]and with omniCC in my bars it's not really needed anymore :)
07:20.07Silviu-ckknight yes sometimes when i was in Hellfire instances i got over instance map, hellfire map, and no pvp objectives when outside :)
07:20.12Fisker-oh and start mspaint up and draw the sentence: "I am a stupid idiot" and save it as your background
07:20.15evl[Ammo]: I posted a replacement for oCD on the forums
07:21.04[Ammo]oh?
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07:21.24Punkie`yeah its like 160 lines of codeage :P
07:21.40theoddone33what happened to oCD?
07:21.54[Ammo]oh?
07:21.56[Ammo]what's it called and what form
07:22.52evlevl_Cooldowns!
07:23.14[Ammo]and where do I find this gem of uber?
07:23.14evl[Ammo]_: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6207.0
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07:23.35Punkie`zomg ammo is reasonably happy today, he must be horny
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07:24.16[Ammo]time to visit a customer
07:24.19[Ammo]and spank his ass
07:24.33[Ammo]spamming me with faulty bug reports
07:24.34[Ammo]grrr
07:24.35Fisker-would be awesome if OmniCC put a cooldown timer on abillities when targetting players
07:24.40Fisker-i mean for dots and stuff
07:24.53[Ammo]Fisker-: quartz pwns you
07:24.54CIA-2203nymbia * r36838 10Quartz/Buff/Quartz_Buff.toc:
07:24.54CIA-22Quartz_Buff:
07:24.54CIA-22- Load the Player module before this one.
07:24.56[Ammo]dots enough
07:25.02[Ammo]time to go
07:25.03[Ammo]late
07:25.05evlPunkie` you online now?
07:25.26Punkie`yeah
07:25.30Punkie`for 5 mins!
07:25.33evlHmms ok
07:25.38evlwe can make arrangements
07:25.41evlor do it later today
07:25.51Punkie`either is fine, i have work anyway
07:26.03evlok, later then
07:26.19Punkie`:)
07:26.52art3misperverts!
07:27.02Punkie`art3mis read my joke dammit!
07:27.08ckknightNO U
07:27.17art3miswhat joke?
07:27.29Punkie`What is the only part of a cabbage you don't eat?
07:27.43evlass?
07:27.48art3misdo you mean vegetable?
07:27.52Punkie`The wheelchair
07:28.10art3misit's whats the only part of the vegetable you don't eat
07:28.14art3misthe wheelchair
07:28.18Punkie`for me it's cabbage :<
07:28.23xlviidecursive works again in 2.1?
07:28.31art3misyeah but they dont call those people cabbages
07:28.49Punkie`they do where i live :o
07:28.56art3misare you polish?
07:29.03Punkie`no, english!
07:29.18art3missoyou live in the south?
07:29.26Punkie`midlands
07:29.29art3miscuz that makes no sense ;P
07:29.41art3misso anyways wanna here 2 funny stories about why i love my wife?
07:30.16art3mis#1: we go to the keg in gastown in vancouver(pretty nice restaurant with good food) and we're sitting there a large family arrives and sits next to us, they have a baby
07:30.26ckknightwanna hear 2 funny stories about how I loved art3mis' wife? ... last night
07:30.44art3misperson at the table leans over and starts talking to the kid and my wife says "why is it when people talk to children they sound like the have downs syndrome?"
07:30.58art3misi glance over and whisper back to the wife "because he DOES have it"
07:31.20art3misso thast funny story 1
07:31.31art3missecond story is i used to watch invader zim ALOT
07:31.51art3misand theres one epsidode where he has to go to the nurse so he starts colelcting organs from the other kids so hell pass the physical
07:32.12art3misthere's a line in it where zim says "more organs means more human"
07:32.40nymbia~emulate zim
07:32.52purlIt's like you said!  They try to end the hunger for sweetness.. in their.. RUMBLING.. UNDEAD.. _bellies_!
07:32.58art3misso alone in the dark previews come out and christiian slater says in it "fear is what keeps you alive" me talking to the tv like i normally do say "it's not fear it's the organs" from the kitchen i hear "more organs means more human"
07:33.19nymbiarofl
07:33.52art3misand whenever i ask her something and shes being cute she looks up at me like gir does and says i dont knOOOoooooowww
07:34.14art3misbtw if you dont know what invader zim is
07:34.20art3misgo buy the house!
07:34.30krkastill waiting for the funny parts :(
07:34.44nymbiaharsh
07:35.07art3misheh if i cared what a krka thought i'd be kicked from he panthers ;P
07:35.28krkame too
07:35.42art3misyou expect me to pay to ride on this filthy contraption!??! HAVE YOU THE BRAIN WORMS?!?!
07:35.51art3misi actually said that on the bus the other day
07:35.55art3miscuz i was bored
07:35.55nymbia~emulate zim
07:36.08purlTHE DIB! HE'S MISSING! THEY'VE TAKEN HIM AND DRAINED HIM OF HIS _sweet sweet blood candies_
07:36.36nymbiaKemayo!
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07:37.15art3misyou are becoming what you are truely in your heart.. so deep in my heart im bologna? yes. that's just stupid... STUPID LIKE MOOSE DIB...stupid like a moose!
07:37.42art3mis~emulta gir
07:37.56art3mis~emulate gir
07:37.59purldo a little dance!
07:38.09CIA-2203ckknight * r36839 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - add options to put texts to the outside left and outside right of the bars.
07:38.44art3misi shall now leave you to your...*whisper say moosey fate say moosey fate* ahem your Moosey Fate!!!
07:39.49Fisker-~ballmer nymbia
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07:41.41art3mis~donkeypunch Fisker-
07:43.28Diaohm
07:43.36Diaowtb lower mem usage version of mobinfo :(
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07:44.42nymbiaNargiddley: ping
07:44.46Silviu-MobHealth3 :)
07:45.03Diaowell
07:45.04Diaoyeah i have mh3
07:45.10Diaoinstead of mi2's mh2
07:45.11Diaobut
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07:45.18Diaostoring drop percentages :P
07:45.24Diaoand being able to browse stored healths is nice
07:45.51ZealotOnASticknymbia: when you talk to Nargiddley, ask him if MainAssist is going to be fixed anytime soon?
07:45.53Icerothwell there's bound to be some correlation between storing data and memory usage :p
07:46.22nymbiaZealotOnAStick: k
07:46.24Diaotrue
07:46.29Diaobut 15mb from 1 addon is overkill :P
07:46.47CIA-2203nymbia * r36840 10Quartz/ (Focus/Focus.lua Player/Player.lua Target/Target.lua):
07:46.47CIA-22Quartz:
07:46.47CIA-22- Display an icon when the bars are unlocked.
07:46.53Diaoalso
07:46.53rophyAntiarc, Antiarc|Work: do you plan to completing TableTop or should I try to make a table view frame myself?
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07:47.00nymbiahow in the hell do they get it up to 15mb
07:47.02Diaodoes anyone have a solution to turn off aloft's view nameplates
07:47.18Diaoi prefer having them on only in some cases
07:47.21nymbiatheir data storage setup must be shit >.>
07:47.24Diaobut everytime i log in aloft automatically turns it on :(
07:47.54evlHmms, memory usage with embeds is misleading at best
07:48.06Diaoexample part of it
07:48.06evlOne would have to go standaline libs to see any true sinners
07:48.09NargiddleyZealotOnAStick, i'm working on it right now
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07:48.30DeviadHello
07:48.30nymbiaNargiddley: small request for text boxes in waterfall
07:48.34Nargiddleywhat did this patch do to :SetPoint() D:
07:48.48Nargiddleymy frames are all screwed and not anchoring properly in MA
07:48.49Diaohttp://ace.pastey.net/40111
07:48.56Diaothat's what it looks like
07:48.57nymbiaNargiddley: if they lose focus due to something other than an enter press, could they clear and re-call the get?
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07:49.40Nargiddleynymbia, hm sounds like it would be annoying to some people
07:50.30Nargiddleynymbia, i see why it makes sense as well
07:50.43nymbiaNargiddley: indeed, but it makes it more clear when the text has been 'accepted'
07:51.00Icerothoh, i got another request: when moving the slider, the exact value under the slider changes constantly - i'd like that to the "manual" value setting field as well (tooltip/mouse cursor is like always blocking the view to the value under the slider)
07:51.31NargiddleyIceroth, that would be hard with the current way its done
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07:51.39Iceroth:-/
07:52.23Nargiddleydoes anyone know whats changed with :SetPoint etc ?
07:53.05nymbiaNargiddley: nothing that i'm aware of
07:53.11NargiddleyMainAssists frames are suddenly not attaching properly after working fine for months
07:54.12nymbiahuh.
07:54.21Diaooh yeah
07:54.46Diaonymbia with sniff the icon vanished from the minimap after i updated to patch 2.1, very strange
07:55.00CIA-2203ckknight * r36841 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add fake tags [Outline] and [ThickOutline], must be placed at the start of a tag sequence, cannot take any modifiers or be part of any conditionals.
07:55.22nymbiaDiao: yeah it's no longer a fubar plugin, had to be rewritten for the patch.. the old method caused crashes.
07:55.32nymbiaDiao: just a slash command now, /item
07:55.37Diaoah ok
08:02.27Punkie`nymbia: if ## LoadManagers: FuBar isn't really needed should I just commit the toc without it? (or you can!)
08:03.43nymbiaPunkie`: it will work soon, one way or the other. ;)
08:04.08Punkie`then you can add it in after? right? ^^
08:04.15nymbiaPSH
08:04.17nymbiafine ;)
08:04.19nymbiago for it
08:04.25Punkie`:D
08:05.02CIA-2203nymbia * r36842 10Tattle/Tattle.lua:
08:05.02CIA-22Tattle:
08:05.02CIA-22- Don't load the battlegroup data for other frkn continents.
08:05.30Nargiddleygah, it'll be the new securegroupheaders :/
08:06.04ckknightso nymbia, I'm thinking, since slouken won't budge et al, a metadata field should be added
08:06.10CIA-2203punkie * r36843 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.toc:
08:06.10CIA-22PT3Browser:
08:06.10CIA-22- Took out the LoadManagers so it works!
08:06.10CIA-22~slap nymbia
08:06.25purlACTION slaps nymbia, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
08:06.30Punkie`muhaha
08:06.37Iceroth:p
08:06.46ckknightso that aside from Dependencies: FuBar, there could also be X-FuBar-Dependent: true
08:07.11nymbiackknight: yeah, that'd be the smoothest way to go about it i think
08:07.19ckknightalright, gonna add it
08:07.27nymbiagreat, thanks :D
08:07.29ckknightthink of a better metadata field?
08:07.35ckknightor is that good?
08:07.38nymbianaw that works fine
08:10.32CIA-2203ckknight * r36844 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - a FuBar dependent, aside from having Dependencies: FuBar can now specify X-FuBar-Dependent: 1. This is important and goes hand-in-hand with LoadManagers: FuBar.
08:11.40Punkie`~poke nymbia
08:11.52purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind nymbia, pokes nymbia repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
08:11.52ckknightnot all, nymbia
08:11.58ckknightnymbia: some which are very, very FuBar dependent, don't
08:12.03ckknightotherwise, yea, knock yourself out
08:12.07nymbiackknight: yeah
08:12.16ckknightuse, um, QuestsFu as the prototype.
08:14.14CIA-2203nymbia * r36845 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.toc:
08:14.14CIA-22PT3Browser:
08:14.14CIA-22- ## LoadManagers: FuBar once more!
08:15.30ckknightI's try
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08:16.16SunTigerhmm
08:16.34SunTigerpt3 bugs were fixed ?
08:17.12Fisker-~steveballmer nymbia
08:17.30purlACTION roars "I'll f*cking KILL nymbia!
08:17.30nymbiapt3 bugs?
08:17.40Fisker-YEAH
08:17.45nymbiaLOL
08:18.08ckknight~pants nymbia
08:18.22purlACTION steals nymbia's pants
08:18.28ckknightwoo
08:19.00Punkie`no peaking!
08:19.07ckknightpeeking
08:19.15Punkie`yeah i realised once i hit enter :p
08:19.26ckknight~pants Punkie`
08:19.46purlACTION steals Punkie`'s pants
08:20.49ckknight~depants Punkie`
08:21.04ckknight~listkeys depants
08:21.20ckknightblast.
08:21.42Fisker-~listkeys depants
08:21.45Fisker-wtf
08:22.51ckknight~depants $1 is <emote>grabs and pulls down $1's pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties.
08:23.15purlckknight: okay
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08:23.23ckknight~depants Punkie`
08:23.50purl<emote>grabs and pulls down Punkie`'s pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties.
08:24.09ckknight~no depants $1 is <action>grabs and pulls down $1's pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties.
08:24.26purlokay, ckknight
08:24.27ckknight~depants Punkie`
08:24.37purlACTION grabs and pulls down Punkie`'s pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties.
08:24.54ckknightalright, we're good
08:25.28Silviu-ckknight, the bug with PvP objectives not showing it`s a Carto bug ?
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08:25.38ckknightprobably.
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08:25.47ckknightI don't have a character that high, though.
08:26.00Silviu-:)
08:26.12Icerothgogo twink ab
08:26.14Silviu-Ha ? what lvl u have
08:26.15Silviu-;)
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08:26.39ckknight34 is my main
08:26.44Matrix110Oo
08:26.48Silviu-Only ? ;)
08:26.55Silviu-I just made 3 weeks ago a new dudu
08:26.59Silviu-I`m 63 now
08:27.04ckknightyou people have me coding constantly.
08:27.10ckknightand I have other obligations
08:27.32Silviu-:P
08:27.33evlckknight: Ass fondling is not an "obligation"
08:27.39NightHawkTheSaneto him it is.
08:27.50evlwww.unitedfondlers.com?
08:30.51theoddone33sweet now I can go to outland
08:30.53theoddone33yay leveling
08:31.29theoddone33I hope hellfire is more interesting than I remember it
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08:35.40wobin_It's full of death
08:35.43wobin_by hellboar
08:35.58ckknightNymbia,
08:35.58ckknightI can only assume you aren't enabling or disabling the scriptProfile property correctly, or there is a serious problem with you computer.
08:36.11ckknightI don't like Kenco.
08:38.24[Ammo]morning
08:38.28[Ammo]again :p
08:38.43nymbiackknight: OH SHIT he replied finally? i gotta see this
08:38.59ckknighthe accuses you of using Win98 or a mac
08:39.01Silviu-KLHThreatMeterV2
08:39.02Silviu-:)
08:39.03ckknightand thus suck
08:39.18wobin_linkage?
08:39.33SunTigermooogee
08:39.38ckknighthttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/
08:39.50SunTigerlet the flaming begin!
08:39.52nymbiahrm
08:39.55nymbiai need something tested
08:40.15ckknightfor HIV?
08:40.23ckknightI'm HIV negative
08:40.24ckknightit's great
08:40.30ckknightyou should try it sometime
08:40.41SunTigerdoesn't everyone start out HIV negative.
08:40.47ckknightnope.
08:40.51ckknightnot African babies
08:40.56SunTigerpoint taken.
08:41.14ckknightshitty situation they have there
08:41.43ckknight*shrug*
08:41.45nymbia./script local time = GetTime() local debug = debugprofilestop() ChatFrame1:AddMessage(time * 1000 == math.floor(debug) and 'kenco is bad' or 'kenco rocks')
08:41.56nymbiai need a mac user and a vista user to paste that in
08:42.00nymbiaand tell me what it throws
08:42.02ckknightmac user here
08:42.13ckknightlogging on
08:42.31ckknightno debugprofilestart()?
08:43.01Silviu-on Xp, kenco rocks
08:43.02Silviu-;)
08:43.17Nargiddleyon xp, kenko is bad
08:43.23nymbialol
08:43.27Silviu-o.O
08:43.42nymbiaSilviu-: try a couple more times, mighta been a fluke
08:43.46Silviu-Ok
08:43.56Silviu-Hmm ktm is disabled btw
08:44.06nymbiadoesn't matter ;)
08:44.12Silviu-Hmm
08:44.16Silviu-I only get kenko rocks
08:44.18NightHawkTheSaneyou see any ktm stuff in that script? :P
08:44.24Silviu-Not really ;)
08:44.26Nargiddleyathlon cpu here, if that makes a diff
08:44.36nymbiackknight: /shrug, that's how he proposed doing the profiling
08:44.37Silviu-Barton 2800+ here
08:44.47Nargiddleyathlon xp200+ here
08:44.51Nargiddley2000*
08:45.04Silviu-Could it be affected by cpu power ? ;)
08:45.13Nargiddleyand i get constantly bad
08:45.14Punkie`nymbia: how did he find out you were using windows 98? is he peeping through your curtains?
08:45.26nymbiarofl
08:45.41[Ammo]"I'm outside your window"
08:45.42nymbiai play wow on xp mostly actually
08:45.56[Ammo]anyway, kenco is bad period :p
08:46.02nymbiaindeed
08:46.02[Ammo]his reasons for not optimizing are invalid
08:46.06[Ammo]regardless of the figures
08:46.18Nargiddleyargh, what did bliz do to the secure party header D:
08:46.23ckknightnymbia: mac: kenko is bad
08:46.27Nargiddleyi cant get the thing working for MainAssist D:
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08:46.41nymbiackknight: neat.
08:46.57NightHawkTheSaneon my mac (G5/1.6), i get 'kenco rocks'
08:47.00NightHawkTheSanerepeatedly
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08:47.24nymbiahahaha
08:48.50ckknightnymbia: intel, dual core 2 here
08:49.42nymbiackknight: yeah i thought so
08:49.58NightHawkTheSaneso uh, forgive the idiocy, but what are we trying to prove?
08:50.06nymbiathat kenco is bad.
08:50.12nymbia;)
08:50.16Fisker-you're doing it wrong ckknight
08:50.18ckknightkenco is bad.
08:50.23NightHawkTheSanenymbia: i assumed that was a constant
08:50.28ckknightanyone who says otherwise deserves depantsing.
08:51.39Silviu-Hmm srry, Xp Barton 2600+ not 2800 but not such a big difference :)
08:51.43Loki|muhthe only things is: what if he's so nerved of this that he discontinue klthreathmeter? will one of you continue working on it?
08:52.04ckknightfuck no
08:52.04NightHawkTheSaneLoki|muh: meh, people raided before ktm, people can raid after it.
08:52.07ckknightrevolt!
08:52.09bigzerocan someone tell me why acedb is not saving anything for my addon? http://ace.pastey.net/40137 http://ace.pastey.net/40140
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08:52.28Fisker-imo nymbia should just star using something else than windows 95 or 98
08:52.38nymbiaseriously
08:52.38Fisker-silly goose
08:52.47nymbiawindows 3.1 4 lyfe
08:52.57NightHawkTheSanebah, beos ftw!
08:53.00ckknightbigzero: you didn't save it in the toc right. You forgot to reload WoW. something along those lines
08:53.03Lyfewfw 3.11? :)
08:53.31bigzerockknight, reloading wow...
08:53.37ckknightfully.
08:53.40Loki|muhNightHawkTheSane: yeah sure, as hunter I do not really have a problem without it... but I think it ease the fight for some other classes
08:53.40ckknightnot just /rl
08:53.43ckknightor logout, login
08:54.06Fisker-mine says kenco rocks nymbia :(
08:54.13Fisker-he's my world apparently
08:54.14nymbiaFisker-: you suck
08:54.19nymbiaFisker-: what kind of processor
08:54.33Fisker-Core 2 Duo (2,4GHz)
08:54.47Fisker-i got the optimizer by Antiarc though ;D
08:54.51nymbiamac-ish or windows-ish?
08:54.58Fisker-windows-ish
08:55.07nymbiaos?
08:55.10Fisker-just gonna reload without the stuff antiarc have
08:55.11Fisker-XP
08:55.17Fisker-32-bit
08:56.24vhaarrmy linux box says "ed is the standard threat meter" and repeatedly shows me a '?' sign
08:56.27Fisker-haven't said kenco sucks yet :(
08:57.15bigzerockknight, closed wow, loaded back up, reloaded ui and checked the savedvariables files..all i have is AutoProfitXDB = nil
08:57.48ckknightbigzero: did you change your DB at all?
08:57.55ckknightor just do nothing
08:58.41bigzeroshould it still not write the defaults?
08:59.02Silviu-KLHThreatMeterV2 lol Downloads Total:
08:59.02Silviu-456
08:59.08Fisker-hahaha
08:59.11Silviu-They download a virus
08:59.13Silviu-Noobs :/
08:59.27ckknightbigzero: of course not
08:59.31ckknightbigzero: why would it?
08:59.31Fisker-more gold spam tonight then :)
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09:01.18bigzerockknight, i suppose there's no reason why it should
09:01.31ckknightthat's why it's nil
09:01.39Fisker-PerformanceFu does report around 5-10% cpu usage in idle though
09:02.56Tupsimorning boys
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09:03.55Laricworkthe cpu usage is that so that if it is idle even doing the tiniest thing will result in a high %
09:03.56Solehi2ustrangerman
09:03.56Tupsilol, klh seems THE topic in this channel these days
09:03.56Solethats because its bad
09:03.56bigzeroso it only writes data that's been changed from the default? pretty smart :-)
09:03.56Tupsiso i noticed :-)
09:03.58Soleit sits right next to DBM :P
09:04.04Solebut maybe not THAT bad
09:04.29Tupsialthough my guildies start the ultra whining when its not in my UA/UU waiting for them to get downloaded
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09:05.06Soletell them to go stick a knife in their pooper...damn lazy people
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09:05.15Tupsii personaly would be glad if it was not possible to even write such an addon
09:05.32Solethe concept of the addon is good, at least to me
09:05.41Solebut KTM could use a rewrite
09:06.17SoleId be tempted to but I dont wanna steal his threat numbers and I dont really wanna compile them myself
09:06.18Tupsiwell i noticed the little war nymbia is fighting with the author in the comment over at curse yesterday, fun read
09:06.24nymbia^^
09:06.29Solenymbia is winning
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09:06.59Tupsiwhich reminds me i forgot to test my manufac theory last night
09:07.03SoleI love those authors which get all fullheaded when their addon becomes popular because the general public doesnt know any better (theyre sheep)
09:07.22nymbiashit, i won that fight the second i started it.  the profiling numbers aren't lying.
09:07.26evlCouldn't KTM be rewritten in the same fashion as Violation?
09:07.33evlmodular etc.
09:07.46Soleyeah
09:07.46Icerothbut but, it's modular, or so the author says
09:07.52SoleWOW
09:07.57Tupsihehe
09:07.58SoleNECB reached 1 million downloads
09:08.01Solethat makes me SAD
09:08.06Tupsiwhy?
09:08.08Soleits just so shit
09:08.19Tupsiso whats better?
09:08.32Soleantagonist + ClassTimer
09:08.38Soleand bigwigs for your raiding shit
09:08.40NightHawkTheSanenymbia: you won the fight before there was a fight. the addon was always bad, just now you can prove it :P
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09:08.49nymbiaindeed
09:09.06Matrix110didnt test Class Timer but Antagnost cant keep up with NECB
09:09.22Solewhy?
09:09.22Tupsibut the only real question is: will it change anything as in will we get a better one?
09:09.31Soleif it cant keep up, then tell me whats missing
09:09.59[Ammo]it doesn't bake pie
09:10.08[Ammo]serious flaw in EVERY addon
09:10.15[Ammo]if it doesn't bake pie, it's not worthy
09:10.15SoleTupsi: I wouldn't be surprised to see a threat meter produced from this community in the near future if this keeps up just to put down KTM (Im looking at nymbia here)
09:10.16abbat_wgood day guys
09:10.20Solehi abbat_w
09:10.32nymbiashit i gotta finish quartz first
09:10.33abbat_wBtw someone ask about how ppl fly at nether drake at Shatrath
09:10.36Solethe best I can do is send you a mini-oven with prebaked pies
09:11.25nymbiathen i kinda wanna write an LoD stub..
09:11.25LaricworkI would love a rewrite of ktm made
09:11.26NightHawkTheSaneshould just make a threat module for violation
09:11.26LaricworkI would love a rewrite of ktm made 'thew right way'
09:11.26SoleMatrix110: you havent answered my question
09:11.26vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: sshh
09:11.26[Ammo]ssssh
09:11.26NightHawkTheSanehehe
09:11.26Matrix110well
09:11.28Matrix110i dont like the splitting up
09:11.32Matrix110it often eats my bars
09:11.44Soleyou can show all bars under 1 anchor
09:11.50Matrix110or dont display em at all
09:12.00abbat_wIf you leave island in shadowmoon valley in special place nether drake saves
09:12.04Silviu-nymbia lod stub ?
09:12.18Soleit randomly kills bars halfway through?
09:12.25Soleare you sure the spell just wanst dispelled?
09:12.41Matrix110on a raid boss i doubt that:P
09:12.59Solegimme an example so I can go replicate it :P
09:13.19Matrix110i cant i stopped using Antagonist like 1 or 2month ago
09:13.24Sole-_-
09:13.26wobin_abbat_w: Special place?
09:13.32abbat_wwobin, yep
09:13.45Tupsihmm i think i stoped using necb/antagonist after a patch introduced the casting bar of the target
09:13.51wobin_how special? =)
09:14.01Tupsiseems enough for me
09:14.11theoddone33my outland crashed, no fair, I just got here
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09:14.11SoleIve stopped using the casting part of antagonist myself also after I got quartz
09:14.14abbat_wwobin, don't easy to replicate but i save dragon 3 times yesterday ;)
09:14.25Solebut I still used buffs/cooldowns
09:14.46abbat_wI use Antagonist
09:14.52abbat_wAnd don't plan to stop using it
09:15.06abbat_wFilters is great for me
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09:15.24theoddone33quartz is pretty nice
09:15.33abbat_wAnd different places for buffs/cooldowns/effects it's more then just sexy ;)
09:15.47[Ammo]nymbia: expand S&D
09:15.56abbat_wTupsi, do you run arenas?
09:15.57theoddone33but I made the config window huge when I first started trying  to use quartz, and now I can't really fix the size
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09:16.33nymbia[Ammo]: k
09:16.36theoddone33hm I bet I can type in a resize for it
09:16.39[Ammo]it's a good LoD stub
09:16.42abbat_wTypically as mage i setup focus frame to healer and monitor they casts. If they cast heal i just cast cs on focus frame
09:16.48[Ammo]might have to make the fubar plugin optional etc
09:16.49Soleabbat_w: after my exams are over and Gladiator is done, I might come back to antagonist (read: v2)
09:17.33abbat_wAlso Antagonist help me monitor buffs like blessing of protection, divine shield e.t.c
09:18.05Solewell to be honest, I wrote the addon purely for pvp
09:18.13Soleso if some shit doesnt work on raid bosses
09:18.15SoleI dont really care
09:18.19abbat_wI don't run pve =)
09:18.23abbat_wOnly pvp
09:18.24Solebecause I r peeveepeer
09:18.27Tupsiabbat_w no
09:18.49Tupsii am the full blown manifastation of the carebear
09:19.22Tupsii even moved from a pvp to a pve server when i was switching continents
09:19.42Solebut seriously, I couldnt bother with NECB, the options are so fucking cryptic its just stupid
09:19.56SoleTupsi: thats pretty carebare
09:20.03TupsiYES!
09:20.16Tupsii am to fucking old for pvp
09:20.18NightHawkTheSanethere's nothing wrong with that :P
09:20.33Soletoo old for pvp? are you like 70 or something?
09:20.45Tupsihalfway through already yes
09:21.04Solehang on
09:21.07Tupsii remember switching from necb to antagonist at some point in the past when i played my shaman
09:21.21Soleyoure 75 and you know how to open an IRC client?
09:21.31Tupsilol no
09:21.34Tupsi38
09:21.51Solelol
09:21.58abbat_w=)
09:22.11abbat_wheh
09:22.13SoleWoW pvp isnt exactly the epitome of reflex gaming, you shouldnt be too bad at pvp :P
09:22.36Solehalf of it is just knowing how to react to different strats
09:22.39Tupsitrue, cs was much worse back in the days
09:22.51abbat_wI run pve long time but now i lost interes to pve. Much fun for me now it's arenas and bg's
09:23.01evlSole: depends on what class you play :)
09:23.19Soleevl: I play rogue and I do fine on my 300-500 ping :P
09:23.23Tupsiwell arenas and bgs are ok, but leveling through ganglethorn i could never find appealing, even with a rogue
09:23.35evlSole: holy crap; i get allergic reactions above 80ms
09:23.58abbat_wOh... evl is lpd (doom-terms) ;)
09:24.01Soleevl: welcome to living in new zealand (or australia) and having to play on US servers
09:24.20evlahh :)
09:24.25Soleand FUCKING Telstra Australia REJECTED Blizzard's offer to open up an oceanic server
09:24.29Tupsidont tell me, i played on illidan.us for a year from europe; not fun
09:24.31evl25mbit fibre in Norway with 5 hops to server :D
09:24.41Soleo_O
09:24.58SoleIm on freakin 2.5mbit ADSL
09:25.02Solethis country blows, Im out
09:25.09ckknightcya, Sole
09:25.14ckknighthave fun with your Vegemite.
09:25.20SoleI cant stand begemite
09:25.32Solevegemite*
09:25.32abbat_wdamn
09:25.35abbat_wlow ping bastard ;)
09:25.49Solerimjobs taste better than vegemite
09:25.53Solenot speaking from experience
09:25.55evlrofl :DS
09:25.56[Ammo]evl: farm me some gold on your uber connection
09:25.58[Ammo]I need around 3k
09:26.06abbat_wi'm on 512kbit in russia with 5%-10% packets lost on prime time ;)
09:26.13Tupsii was a bit shocked once when started the client here at work and though the lagmeter in game was defect
09:26.16evl[Ammo]: farming gold is something I will never ever do I'm afraid
09:26.19Solerussian/ukranian internet blows too
09:26.24Tupsionly showed <10ms for the whole session
09:26.28theoddone33I haven't done any quests in shatt, but I can talk to scryer banker and not aldor, weird... I wonder if it's because I'm BE
09:26.34Soletupsi: I hate you
09:26.35Tupsinothing close i get from home :-)
09:26.42evlSole: the most insane part is that I pay 75AUD for that conn a month
09:26.46Tupsisole: read again, work
09:26.58abbat_w75aud?
09:27.01Soleseriously, theres so many little pricks on my server which I would just stomp if they werent on 20ms
09:27.06Tupsievl whats that in real currency?
09:27.06Sole75AUD, wow thats cheap
09:27.06abbat_whow much this in usd?
09:27.16Solethats like $40
09:27.19[Ammo]usd = monopoly money :p
09:27.22evl66 USD
09:27.28evlyeah, usd = monopoly money
09:27.30Soledamn AUD dollar isnt as low as I thought :P
09:27.46SoleNew zealand is so boring :(
09:27.57evl[Ammo]: The sad thing is, with the prices here in Norway I could ebay 3000gold for 4 pints of tap.
09:28.05[Ammo]haha
09:28.13[Ammo]what if I send you 5 pints
09:28.14Tupsisole: at home i only have 384kbit/128kbit, so dont tell me you have a bad connection
09:28.17[Ammo]:)
09:28.19evlhirr
09:28.23SoleTupsi: lol thats kinda bad, where you live?
09:28.40Tupsiin some stone age country who lost the 2nd world war
09:28.45evl:/
09:29.07nymbiateach you to lose world wars! ;)
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09:29.23Tupsigerman telekom brags about 16mbit connection to (almost) everyone, the catch is in the tiny (almost)
09:29.47Icerothwhen i ping the server (or last node that responds to ping), i get constantly <50ms even at prime time, yet in game the ping is 150-200ms at prime time, <100ms in the mornings etc >.<
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09:30.33Tupsihow is the ingame ping computed anyway if their firewalls dont allow a ping to the servers?
09:31.21TupsiSole: but in the end i am happy i even got a adsl connection, my neighbar next door is to far away from the access point to get it!
09:31.31Tupsiso it was a very close call
09:31.44Tupsiand everything is better then dial up
09:32.01SoleTupsi: germany sounds terrible
09:32.14Tupsiit is when your not living in a big city
09:32.20evlharr
09:32.23Solehah
09:32.30evlI just checked, I could get 100mbit SDSL for 115 USD a month
09:32.33evlbut who needs 100mbit anyway
09:32.36SoleSDSL?
09:32.40evlyeah, 100 up and down
09:32.44Solebtw evl: diaf
09:32.48Tupsithats VERY evil
09:33.17Tupsialthough i tend to agree, you dont "need" 100mbit, though its a nice to have of course
09:33.26Stephmwhey guys
09:33.32evlthen again a pint is 10$
09:34.03Soleevl: where in norway do you live?
09:34.08wobin_and that's normal
09:34.09evloslo
09:34.15wobin_or actually rather good
09:34.16Solewobin: gogo australia
09:34.16Icerothdon't they have fiber to like every door in japan these days?
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09:34.44Solethem asian countries have good interwebs
09:34.46evlMy new flat had fibre in it when I moved in
09:34.50wobin_It's true
09:34.56evlscandinavia has pretty good internet
09:35.04wobin_Sole: Yes, well China also has the GFWOC
09:35.10ckknightall these religion tests on the internet can never pinpoint my beliefs. The questions don't even have the answers I believe in. gah.
09:35.24Solerofl
09:35.27wobin_At one point, I had to tunnel through australia from china to get to the US and play =P
09:35.33Solelol
09:35.37NightHawkTheSaneno test on the internet will ever tell you anything conclusive :p
09:35.47wobin_well
09:35.59Solewobin_: wtf is GFWOC?
09:36.04wobin_"Am I connected to the internet" may do so
09:36.11wobin_The Great Firewall of China
09:36.16NightHawkTheSanewobin_: nah, could be cached! :D
09:37.11ckknightstill lame, NightHawkTheSane
09:37.12evlIs there a way to isolate addon memory usage with embbedded libs?
09:37.18ckknightno, evl
09:37.20CIA-2203nymbia * r36846 10Quartz/Buff/Buff.lua:
09:37.20CIA-22Quartz:
09:37.20CIA-22- Toss a refresh on the auras every 3 seconds if they're shown, since UNIT_AURA doesn't fire when something's refreshed.
09:37.22evlthat sucks :P
09:37.29ckknightevl: disembed.
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09:37.40evltakes too much time
09:37.46nymbiawhiner! ;)
09:37.49NightHawkTheSaneckknight: i'd submit if you're looking for form on the internet to tell you waht you believe, you're looking in the wrong place anyway. :P
09:37.51ckknightI should really write down my beliefs sometime
09:38.08ckknightturns out my beliefs are actually quite similar to mormonism
09:38.18ckknightexcept without all the God stuff.
09:38.23drc|away^^"
09:38.42drc|awaywhat exactly do mormons believe in, except "all the god stuff"?
09:38.43theoddone33everyone knows that the place to find your beliefs isn't the internet, it's from some band you like
09:38.58nymbiadrc|away: multiple wives, of course
09:39.06drc|awayoh yeah, I forgot.
09:39.10ckknightdrc|away: the concepts of prelife and afterlife
09:39.28ckknightand I really don't know why everyone still harshes on the mormons for polygamy, they haven't practiced that for a long, long time
09:39.51evlckknight: also sucks that say an addon uses Babble-Zone (EVIL MONSTER LIB) and I want to disembed I'd have to download BabbleLib and uncomment all the others
09:40.12ckknightevl: put up or shut up
09:40.12nymbiawell, gotta pick on em for something!  i guess alchol?
09:40.19evlckknight: mormon
09:40.27nymbiaburn
09:40.28drc|awaythat, sadly enough, is a religion too many people believe in, cryogen
09:40.29ckknightI'm not a mormon
09:40.34NightHawkTheSanei dont see the real problem with polygamy to begin with. >.>
09:40.36ckknightmy sister-in-law was raised mormon
09:40.40cryogendrc|away: that's what i was thinking :)
09:40.42ckknightdoesn't really believe it anymore, though
09:40.48ckknightNightHawkTheSane: same
09:40.52evlckknight: you're crackcocaineknight
09:41.02ckknightno?
09:41.06ckknightI don't do drugs
09:41.12CIA-2203skyboat * r36847 10ClosetGnome_Tooltip/ClosetGnome_Tooltip.toc: ClosetGnome_Tooltip: Updated .toc to 20100
09:41.13evlnot even Flasks?!
09:41.22Solelol
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09:41.52Solecryogen - dont drink alcohol?
09:42.04[dRaCo]ha, I'm back.
09:42.11Soleyou be who?
09:42.42[dRaCo]pretty essential question, isnt it?
09:42.59CIA-2203skyboat * r36848 10PricePer/PricePer.toc: PricePer: Updated .toc to 20100
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09:46.46CIA-2203skyboat * r36849 10EnhancedColourPicker/ (. EnhancedColourPicker.toc libs/): EnhancedColourPicker: Updated .toc to 20100
09:47.16sbuoh hm btw
09:47.24sbudoes anyone now why armor is green on some items?
09:47.42[dRaCo]yeah
09:47.44sbu(well, 90% lether tanking items)
09:47.44nymbiasbu: is it an enchant?
09:47.47sbunope
09:47.48Icerothitem budged is spent to it
09:48.06nymbiaodd, i wonder if that silliness broke statstain
09:48.07[dRaCo]yeah, exactly... those items have enhanced armor values
09:48.37sbuah hm, but why make it green? because druids/bears cannot read?
09:48.40Icerothquite neat feature from blizz side if you ask me
09:49.06[dRaCo]to make it more clear
09:49.18Nargiddleyok i think i've found the problem with MainAssist, or something weird is happening
09:49.21[dRaCo]I like it, more eye candy for everyone
09:49.27sbu;o
09:49.41Icerothi did throw some green quest rewards to vendor that turned out to be the best bear tonk items in game at the time because i missed the armor :-/
09:49.43Nargiddleyit seems the OnLoad script for my virtual frames isnt getting called all the time ><
09:49.45Icerothso yea, druids can't read :p
09:49.58[dRaCo]Iceroth: have 'em restored ;>
09:50.06Nargiddleydoing a /rl doesnt seem to call it ever, and a normal login missed it for the first few frames that are created
09:50.15Icerothwell t4 > those anyway :)
09:50.25[dRaCo]like "please, mister gm, can I get all my green quest rewards back since I was to lazy to read?"
09:50.26[dRaCo]:)
09:50.38Icerothshush :p
09:50.46[Ammo]you can buy back from vendor
09:50.49[Ammo]if you're fast enough :p
09:50.56[Ammo]aka didn't sell too much stuff
09:50.57Icerothwell i noticed that like weeks later
09:51.04sbuand and i dont get it why my raid frames are still tainted sometimes (im not able to reproduce it... it just happens when i dont expect it (2 times in lasy days now...)) :/
09:51.23sbuhm there is very nice druid tanking stuff in heroics
09:51.40[Ammo]sbu: bliz bug
09:52.21Tupsinymbia is that pt3browser only showing stuff already in your .luas or does it also collect stuff like all the other "itemdb" addons?
09:52.48sbu[Ammo]: uhm, what? :o (im talking about raid/social frame, yes? swap raid group members, ... doesnt event pop up anymore if tainted :p)
09:53.46GagorianI can't even open blizz raid UI frame in combat any longer after 2.1
09:53.47nymbiaTupsi: just stuff in pt3
09:53.57Gagorianpretty annoying cause I can't check who's dead
09:54.02nymbiaGagorian: tainty goodness?
09:54.09GagorianYes seems so
09:54.41sbuGagorian: same here - but since i removed autobar i cant reproduce it... but it still happened :o
09:55.04GagorianWould need to investigate what's causing it. Was there any good taint checker addon?
09:55.24sbudo you have autobar>
09:55.25sbu?
09:55.45GagorianYes, but not in about 10 seconds
09:55.54GagorianCause it's time to go apeshit on that one
09:56.08GagorianGone :>
09:56.20sbuthen attack something and try again ;o
09:56.39pb_ee1is there an AddOn that lets the user display buffs & debuffs under the frame of the party members?
09:56.43pb_ee1i mean only in party, not in raid
09:56.45sbuand tell me if it happens w/o autobar... and WHEN - thats my problem actually :)
09:56.55GagorianYeah I'll try it later today
09:57.06sbuuhm pb_ee1 - pitbull?
09:57.14sbuor some other uf addon
09:57.20pb_ee1sbu: thanks, i'm going to check this ;)
09:57.33pb_ee1i've got suf, but it does not display the buffs under the frames :P
09:57.39pb_ee1it's not for me though, it's for a mat :)
09:57.42pb_ee1mate*
09:57.43sbusuf?
09:58.28pb_ee1SimpleUnitFrames
10:03.51pb_ee1PitBull isn't only an API, is it?
10:05.13Fisker-oh hai2u nymbia
10:06.06nymbia~flee
10:06.18purlACTION runs away screaming
10:06.46Laricworkpb_ee1 no it is a full uf addon
10:07.01pb_ee1Thanks Laric ;)
10:07.04Laricworkpb_ee1 very similair in looks to aguf
10:07.49pb_ee1Yeah, i finally found a screenshot on the forums
10:08.02pb_ee1It seems it is possible to disable the skin, though
10:08.03Laricworknymbia why did you stop your perl?
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10:09.03LaricworkI personally still use xperl :P
10:11.23Tupsihe found other fields to explore more intersting?
10:11.57nymbiawell i quit writing addons for like a year after that
10:12.00Tupsigot bored with the usual "implement overeyecandy feature y before starting work on x"-requests?
10:12.24Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Lilythmageborn <-omgosh female attention whores
10:12.28Fisker-who would've thought?!
10:12.30nymbiausers on curse, lemme tell ya
10:12.51Laricworkwell it was the best unitframes :P
10:13.39SoleFisker: shes a feeking nerd + foogly imo
10:14.29Fisker-perhaps :o
10:16.28Fisker-sigh
10:16.30Fisker-i need a fishing bot
10:16.57Tupsiso? use one
10:17.15Fisker-don't got one
10:17.22Tupsiget caught and finaly be free of wow forever!!!
10:17.25Fisker-and i'll probably get raped in the ass by blizzard :(
10:17.28Tupsiwhich i guess would be a good thing
10:17.30Fisker-nah
10:17.33NightHawkTheSanewowglider.de!!
10:17.36Fisker-i'd just threaten them with legal action
10:17.46NightHawkTheSane:P
10:17.51Tupsiwowglider seems abit overkill?
10:17.56NightHawkTheSaneprobably, yes
10:18.02Tupsiand target no1 of blizzard i guess as well
10:19.13Tupsii am still stuck somewhere in the skilling up with fishing
10:19.34Tupsiwell regarding the patch notes, it should be better now
10:19.40Tupsidid not try it yet though
10:20.26CIA-2203nargiddley * r36850 10MainAssist/MainAssist.lua:
10:20.26CIA-22MainAssist:
10:20.26CIA-22- Set 'template' before any other attribute so the secure headers don't make child frames before its set and break everything spectacularly
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10:20.33NargiddleyZealotOnAStick, fixed i hope
10:21.26CIA-2203nymbia * r36851 10Quartz/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
10:21.26CIA-22Quartz:
10:21.26CIA-22- Add options to disable the target and focus castbars for friendly or hostile units.
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10:23.33Gagoriannymbia: Still working on PT3Bar? It's acting weird while configuring scale (icons being streched way off and text moves out of the button)
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10:24.14Punkie`nymbia no longer loves pt3bar!
10:24.29Gagorian,_,
10:24.32nymbiaGagorian: hrm, i'll take a look
10:24.46nymbiaPunkie`: naw, just you.
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10:25.03nymbiaPunkie`: .... <3
10:25.08Punkie`:D
10:25.58kbhallo allo
10:26.22Gagoriannymbie: Reproduced by unlocking, moving and then changing scale
10:26.25kbhquite the hopping channel here eh?
10:26.42nymbiaGagorian: ok
10:27.08nymbiakbh: just since you got here
10:27.16kbhwell hot diggity
10:27.19kbhgood morning!
10:27.32kbhoh snap
10:27.39pb_ee1~poke purl
10:27.50purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
10:27.50CIA-2203nymbia * r36852 10Quartz/Player/Player.lua:
10:27.50CIA-22Quartz_Player:
10:27.50CIA-22- MM:SS format for times longer than 1 minute (probably.. untested.)
10:27.51pb_ee1:(
10:28.03pb_ee1^_^
10:28.19kbhsoo... you guys like addons?
10:28.36nymbiai hate em personally
10:28.38GagorianNot really, we hate addons so much we make our own versions of them
10:28.42[dRaCo]no, we just like bugging ppl to write addons ;)
10:28.43pb_ee1Same
10:28.44kbhchoice
10:29.02pb_ee1And Ace2 is bad, I've tested then I've went back on Cosmos
10:29.16pb_ee1No support, people are really not cool, etc.
10:29.19kbhi hear cosmos is the future
10:29.20nymbiaserious
10:29.39pb_ee1kbh: yeah, Cosmos is the future
10:29.46Punkie`I used cosmos once! :D
10:30.21SoleI used Cosmos once before
10:30.28SoleI feel dirty
10:30.58nymbiacosmos was the shit
10:31.02nymbia...in closed beta
10:31.42kbhso my inital reaction to a wowace irc channel was "hey, i could go bug the crap out of all the addon authors who make my favorite addos!"
10:32.27Stephmwkbh: works for every irc newbie
10:32.37kbhhey hey
10:32.50kbhnoobie goes by a channel by channel basis
10:33.14[dRaCo]hehe.
10:33.17[dRaCo]noob.
10:33.39Laricworkin closed beta I used the gypsy addons :P
10:33.54kbhso is it morning in everyone else's house? or are yall australian
10:33.57Icerothi've used cosmos and discord. i'm cured now though
10:34.02[dRaCo]uh, gypsy... I remember using those, too
10:34.07NightHawkTheSaneits not morning because i havnt gone to sleep yet
10:34.13[dRaCo]12:33 here... GMT +2
10:34.16Laricworkit is 12:33 here
10:35.07LaricworkI've installed cosmos few times.. just to see how the development goes.. I usually have it installed like 1h each time..
10:35.25[dRaCo]and, does it get better?
10:35.31Laricworknope..
10:35.41Laricworkimnho it gets worse and worse
10:36.02Laricworkit used to kinda fit together in a way.. now it is just a bunch of addons
10:37.36kbhso whats the newest hottest off the press addon made merely moments ago?
10:37.57nymbialets see
10:37.59Stephmwit's called KbhInstaIgnore
10:38.07kbhzing
10:38.26nymbiaKTMCPUManager
10:38.34kbhoooooooooh
10:38.37kbhnewness
10:38.50kbhthat like a task manager for all your addons? :P
10:40.37Laricworkit just controls when ktm is active and when it is not
10:40.43Icerothi think the name refers to the amount of cpu time it manages to take ;)
10:40.44NightHawkTheSanewell, its like a task manager for ktm. :P
10:40.59CIA-2203nymbia * r36853 10Quartz/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
10:40.59CIA-22Quartz_GCD:
10:40.59CIA-22- Add an option to deplete instead of fill.
10:41.12abbat_wbtw
10:41.13nymbiait pummels KTM a bit until it uses a little less CPU
10:41.17Chompersthese daily quests are great
10:41.26Chompersi'm making so much money its crazy
10:41.31abbat_wPitBull with aura timers - and i can remove now Chronometer
10:41.55Laricworknymbia is it possible to disable all kind of hot/dot etc tracking in quartz so I have it as a cast bar only? :P
10:42.28CIA-2203nevcairiel 072.1 * r36854 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: removed some redundant states
10:42.40Chompersckknight: is it possible to block all debuffs shown on my target except my own?
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10:43.43nymbiaLaricwork: sure, just turn off that module
10:43.46NightHawkTheSaneChompers: yeah, whats nice is the skyguard one you can do just flying around on your mount ;)
10:43.46[Ammo]nymbia: I have one small request for quartz target/focus buff/debuff timers
10:43.54nymbia[Ammo]: hit me
10:43.56[Ammo]sorting of the bars by time left
10:44.02abbat_w=)
10:44.07nymbiaok
10:44.12[Ammo]because right now they're in the buff / debuff order
10:44.20nymbiayeah alphabetical
10:44.21[Ammo]I just want to know that either I should recast the bottom or the top one
10:44.23abbat_wOh, i should try Quartz too i think ;)
10:44.25nymbiaeasy change :D
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10:44.38[Ammo]thanks :)
10:44.42abbat_wAs a pvp player i think i can make some requests too :)
10:45.12[Ammo]the focus bars are imba, makes my feared focus stuff even easier
10:45.18[Ammo]since I don't have to look away from the middle of my screen
10:45.43abbat_wfocus bar show cast of you focus target?
10:46.38NightHawkTheSanenight all.
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10:47.17[Ammo]abbat_w: yes
10:47.21sbuhah, sold my first khorium destroyer thing for 2 primal might :o
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10:47.37Laricworklo mr sleeper :P
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10:47.58SoleI LOVE errors that dont make any sense
10:48.24kbhi love giant bugs in complicated addons :P
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10:48.40kbh*especially* after patch day!
10:48.46sbuthere are no complicated addons :p
10:49.49SoleI dunno
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10:50.04SoleDBM is retardedly complicated for no real reason
10:51.23sbuhaha nymbia: "But i'm not interested in improving your FPS at the auction house." :p
10:53.09Laricworkkenco vs nymbia.... the file comment battle :P
10:53.13nymbiahuhwha?
10:53.19nymbiaoh he responded?
10:53.22Laricworkyeps
10:53.50nymbiahahaha
10:53.51dottedwoot?
10:53.54nymbiahe's so full of shit
10:53.54dottedlink!
10:53.56dotted!!
10:54.03nymbiahttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/
10:54.06Laricworkme brings out a cup of popcorn.. eagerly awaiting nymbias response
10:56.07[Ammo]nice uncaring attitude by kenco
10:56.07[Ammo]like I said earlier, he's a bad man regardless of the actual figures :)
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10:57.12SoleUS authentication server down?
10:57.29CIA-2203nimbal * r36855 10Buffalo2/ (Buffalo2-frFR.lua Buffalo2.toc):
10:57.29CIA-22Buffalo2:
10:57.29CIA-22- Added french localization, thanks leenadr!
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10:58.23kbhdoes the channel spam all updates?
10:59.20[dRaCo]all submits to the dev svn, yeah
10:59.40kbhspiffy
11:00.46snurrehow do you move the castbar with quartz?
11:01.38[Ammo]unlock it!
11:01.41[Ammo]and drag it!
11:01.53harldephinhm. i'm missing target's target frames with PitBull for a reason unknown to me
11:01.54omega_I never found the unlock feature, so I just moved everything else out of its way
11:01.56CIA-2203nevcairiel * r36856 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_BarStates.lua): Bartender3: merged branch, now using RegisterStateDriver for stances
11:02.01nevcairiellol
11:02.19snurreyeah, the lock option is a bit... hidden
11:02.32nevcairielyou have to love blizzard for that new system
11:02.40nevcairielnow actionbars feel like configuring a big macro
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11:03.03Icerothhow did the "experimental" changes go?) do i dare to update bartender?)
11:04.09[dRaCo]harldephin: try creating them ;>
11:04.09CIA-2203sole * r36857 10Gladiator/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
11:04.09CIA-22Gladiator:
11:04.09CIA-22- Added an options frame. /glad, /gladiator, /gla to access console cmds. /glad opts to open waterfall.
11:04.09CIA-22- Lots of optimizations and code changes.
11:04.09CIA-22- Frame elements will only be created if their corresponding option is enabled (no reload required).
11:04.10CIA-22- ITS RAINING OUTSIDE BUT IM NOT WET!
11:04.25nevcairielIceroth: all working very nicely now :)
11:04.26harldephin[dRaCo]: they're enabled, and they show, when i'm not in-combat, but as soon as i untarget in-combat, the frames stay hidden
11:04.33Solenymbia: go get new glad
11:04.46snurrewhere's the unlock/lock option in quartz? really cant find it
11:04.48CIA-2203nevcairiel * r36858 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: remember to set actual stance when loging in
11:04.53nymbiaSole: ooh nice
11:05.07harldephin[dRaCo]: then when i'm out-of-combat again, they show normally when i target something
11:05.24Solenymbia: yeah its now considered a semi-buggy addon instead of an extremely incomplete one :P
11:05.30nevcairiellol
11:05.31[dRaCo]weird. no error at all?
11:05.32nymbia:D
11:05.41harldephin[dRaCo]: nope
11:05.53[dRaCo]but reproducable?
11:06.00harldephinabsolutely
11:06.02[dRaCo]uh. typing is hard.
11:06.03CIA-2203nymbia * r36859 10Quartz/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
11:06.03CIA-22Quartz_Buff:
11:06.03CIA-22- Add option (enabled by default) to sort by time remaining instead of alphabetical.
11:06.03CIA-22~whaleslap [Ammo]
11:06.13purlACTION beats [Ammo] upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
11:06.13SoleI dont like how Im handling height/width settings, the shit gets all wonky if I change it from defaults
11:06.13abbat_wergh....
11:06.22Solealso my guildy has said it sometimes detects people as dead when they really arent
11:06.23abbat_wcomment battle but Fubar_HonorFu won't work ;)
11:06.32Soleso maybe  I should just take the dead flag out, I'll deal with that tommorow
11:07.18[Ammo]sschhweeettt nymbia
11:08.08[Ammo]nymbia: another thing, the config waterfall is kinda 'flat' makes changing settings and looking for them for the buffs/debuffs quite nasty
11:08.23[Ammo]maybe submenu them one level, one for focus, one for target, one for general
11:08.32[Ammo]but that's minor since after 1 config done anyway
11:09.15Tupsii am truely shocked now
11:09.18snurrewheres the unlock option?
11:09.20Soletime to play SC :)
11:09.22abbat_wyeah, like pitbull categories. player/target/focus
11:09.22abbat_w;)
11:09.25SoleTupsi: why is you shocked?
11:09.31nymbia[Ammo]: yeah i was messing with that a bit earlier, it had this nice tendancy to make one area better and another worse
11:09.36Tupsikenco is NOT interested in improving my fps at the auction house!!! thats a true scandal!!!
11:09.45[Ammo]nymbia: it's minor
11:09.55[Ammo]but it confussled me when opening the menu:)
11:10.07[Ammo]oh I have a bug report as well but not sure if you can do anything about it
11:10.11SoleI wouldn't know about that, my fps is a constnat 75 -_- , damn duo cores not reporting past a certain fps in WoW
11:10.16Sole:P
11:10.21nymbia[Ammo]: hit me.
11:10.25[Ammo]if you switch targets midcast to something out of range it'll show the out of range while your original target is in range
11:10.30[Ammo]or like me
11:10.44[Ammo]I cast fear on my focus target which is in range while my real target is out of range
11:10.54[Ammo]so maybe make it work only on focus / target
11:11.02[Ammo]check which one the cast was for and check that range
11:11.07nymbiayeah i'd need to just discard the range data on target swap
11:11.07[Ammo]if possible
11:11.20[Ammo]well, I don't swap targets
11:11.28harldephin[dRaCo]: sometimes pet's target frame disappears too
11:11.29[Ammo]I keep my dps target targetted and cast on focus with macro
11:11.35Tupsiyeah tbh i never had any performance issues after the days when we where in MC and the mages all nuked the core hound packs with there fancy lights
11:11.54[Ammo]Tupsi: it's bad form to not optimize where you can
11:11.58nymbia[Ammo]: oh, that should be accurate, unless both mobs have the same name
11:12.03Tupsiand i dont even have a core2duo
11:12.04[Ammo]they didn't
11:12.07[Ammo]wasn't accurate
11:12.07nymbiaodd
11:12.14krkasolution is simple: write a replacement addon
11:12.24[Ammo]krka: sssssh
11:12.41[Ammo]nymbia: again, minor detail :)
11:12.50Tupsiammo: i know, dont worry you dont have to preach me, i am on nymbias side here, just throwing out my usual sarcasm here and there. you'll get used to it
11:13.03nevcairielmaybe someone should really write a replacement KTM
11:13.04[Ammo]haha, I'm used to a lot :)
11:13.06nevcairieljust to own him :)
11:13.12krkaif the addon is gpl, you could even fork it
11:13.22nevcairielits prolly unlicensed
11:13.28Tupsiand the talks in ace forums about a klm rewrite already seems older then the wow game itself!
11:13.31nevcairiellike nearly every addon
11:14.24CIA-2203nymbia * r36860 10Quartz/Quartz.lua:
11:14.25CIA-22Quartz:
11:14.25CIA-22- Shove the waterfall a lever deeper, let's see how that works.
11:14.28Laricworkif something is unlicenced isnt it by default copyrighted :P
11:14.35krkayes it is
11:14.45nevcairielyeah no license header on any files, and no license.txt of any sort
11:14.48Tupsino mentioning about anything licence related in the zip
11:14.54nymbiayup
11:15.00nymbiayou dont even have the right to run it
11:15.01nymbia;)
11:15.09krkaby releasing publically, you could argue the author allows downloads for personal usage
11:15.10nevcairielbut yeah, without a license he still has the copyright
11:15.21Tupsimaybe blizz TOS implies it free to use already?
11:15.24kbhcant you just ninja the addonchannel?
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11:15.35krkaTupsi: blizz don't have that power
11:15.52Laricworktupsi you really cant assume that.. he might have intended it for use in command line lua only :P
11:16.31sbu"i run the keylogger version of KLM,how can i remove the keylogger need help"
11:16.32sbulol
11:16.34Tupsiwell then we have to tease him with comments until he throws it all over and leaves it to someone else to pick it up!
11:16.38nevcairiellol
11:16.42harldephinand i'm still getting a lot of numbers in my item tooltip mendeleev's 'used in' category instead of the real items/recipes names
11:16.42nymbiasbu: rofl, i saw that
11:16.45Tupsisbu: thats a priceless one indeed!
11:17.32kbhso who here writes sanity?
11:17.57nevcairielwe all write insanity
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11:18.09TupsiSort, search, and manage your inventory (Antiarc)
11:18.34kbhwell there ya go lol
11:18.51krkaor you could write patches that increase performance instead of just complaining
11:19.04kbhcan i do that?
11:19.15krkadont know if _you_ can
11:19.30nevcairielwell there is KTMCPUManager
11:19.32nevcairielor something
11:19.45nevcairielwhich exactly does that
11:19.46Tupsibtw you mentioned Violation earlier, is this some kind of damagemeter?
11:19.52evlYes, it's <3
11:19.58Tupsias it says tracks dps and healing
11:20.01nymbianot really gonna do anything about the terrible resource use when you're in a raid though
11:20.06nevcairielit is, but its still in a very early stage :)
11:20.12krkapersonally like a combination of polling and event listening
11:20.20Tupsidef earlier as in not usuable?
11:20.23Tupsior just geeky?
11:20.30Laricworkit works just fine
11:20.32sbumeh, and wtb Recount + Violation merge :/
11:20.35[Ammo]Tupsi: it will eat your babies if you treat it wrong
11:20.36krkai often use events to set dirty flags, then use polling on demand if the dirty flag is set
11:20.43Tupsiammo: i like that
11:20.45[Ammo]sbu: will never happen, cryect doesn't like the violation backend
11:20.50sbu[Ammo]: mhh...
11:20.56[Ammo]sbu: and we don't like the amount of info recount stores
11:21.00Laricworkwhat is recount?
11:21.02[Ammo]but feel free to write a module :p
11:21.02Tupsialthough my little one just turned 1 and is now by def. no longer a "baby"
11:21.07sbu*sigh* :o
11:21.08Tupsiso technically i dont have any
11:21.16harldephinhm. guess i'mm give it a shot
11:21.22wobin_no reason why you can't make more!
11:22.14Tupsidoes violation has some sort of syncing with other raid/group members?
11:22.17harldephinhttp://wow.harl.de/screenshots/numbers.png
11:22.35wobin_rofl
11:22.45[Ammo]Tupsi: yes, but only for other violation users, the rest of info is taken from combatlog
11:22.47Tupsiharl: ahhh german client! everybody hide!!!!
11:22.55wobin_Violation's dps meter: Exodusdeath    601.26091880186 (35%)
11:23.09[Ammo]wobin_: yeah
11:23.13Tupsiammo: well yes that was my question in the long version, so thanks. i am just lazy .-)
11:23.14[Ammo]wobin_: working as intended
11:23.23harldephinTupsi: lalala...
11:23.29Tupsiof course i assumed having other members installed it as well .-)
11:23.33[Ammo]I've written up and sort of pseudocoded a proper sync system
11:23.41Tupsiharl: your truly hardcore, riding this game in german
11:23.48sbuack
11:23.56TupsiUnterstadt and other things let my skin crawl
11:25.08[Ammo]time for lunch!
11:25.16Tupsiis overrated!!!
11:26.49kbhso i saw mention of being able to detect how much cpu/memory addons are using, including a top 5 of some sort?
11:26.54kbhin patch notes
11:27.02kbhhow has that been implimented?
11:27.20sbuperformancefu is using that profiling stuff - or what do you mean?
11:27.21nymbiawith evil demon magic
11:27.30sbuand yeah, what nymbia said
11:27.54kbhwell i'm not seeing much of anything new in performancefu
11:28.11nymbiaright click -> enable profiling
11:28.18nymbiajust remember to turn it back off
11:28.22nymbiasince it has overhead
11:28.44Fisker-FLEE MORTALS
11:28.48Fisker-FLEE BEFORE I LOSE ALL SENSE OF CONTROL
11:28.54kbhgroovey!
11:28.59Fisker-oh i never had any sense of control
11:29.01Icerothperformancefu need minimalistic text option, like 60/120/25/0.1 instead of the current 60 fps 120 ms 25 mg 0.1kb/s
11:29.21sbuwell and you are a paladin, so there would be no reason to flee :/
11:29.27Fisker-vaelastrasz in heroic mode, half cooldown on BA you start at 100%
11:29.28Fisker-:P
11:29.56Fisker-vaelastrasz is a paladin
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11:33.01nevcairielyay a #131
11:33.06nevcairiel(file corrupt)
11:33.09nevcairielwonder what broke now
11:33.39Megalonvaelastrasz corrupted your files
11:33.40Megalon:7
11:33.46nevcairieldamn him!
11:34.41nevcairielanyone updated bt3 yet and wants to report general meltdown ? :D
11:34.43CIA-2203nymbia * r36861 10Quartz/Flight/Flight.lua:
11:34.43CIA-22Quartz_Flight:
11:34.43CIA-22- A sanity check or two. (by the way, tested with both flightmap and inflight, both are still working)
11:35.15nymbianevcairiel: let's find out!
11:35.43harldephinhow to hide inflight's flight bar ?
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11:35.58sbuhehe - you cant :p
11:36.12nymbianevcairiel: well, dunno if this is new, but empty buttons aren't hiding (and are still intercepting mouse clicks)
11:36.20sbunymbia: could you implement InFlight bar hiding in quartz? :o
11:36.31harldephinso i'm having to have two flight bars showing when using quartz & inflight ? that's odd
11:36.56nevcairielnymbia: i know about intercepting the clicks, not sure about hiding .. i dont think i have any empty buttons :D
11:37.18nymbianevcairiel: yeah i don't on my main so its not a big deal
11:37.24nymbiaonly noticed it on my alt
11:37.45nevcairieli will have to change that soon anyway
11:37.56nevcairielbecause Disabled() wont work in combat anymore with 2.1.2
11:38.54nymbiasbu: i'd have to essentially attack and cripple it, which isn't very nice of me - ie, it's not a very good thing to do in a world where addons play nice together.
11:39.39JoshBorkeaddons play nice together? o.O
11:39.40[dRaCo]what does inflight do anyway?
11:40.01nymbiaJoshBorke: lol
11:40.20kbhsad to know one of my favorite addons is wicked bloated with this new performancefu
11:40.30nevcairielwhich is that?
11:40.35kbhautobar
11:40.54sbuusing externals?
11:41.17nevcairielprobably
11:41.19kbhwhen updating with wowaceupdater?
11:42.35CyrezI use SVN without externals. Boy, was that a pain in the tail to do totally manually.
11:42.55Fisker-what is the merits of being able to disable a button in combat?
11:43.10Fisker-How was it sploitzed since they want to disable it? :o
11:44.13nevcairielyou could /click it in a macro, and the macro wouldnt stop
11:44.23nevcairielso essentially, you could create automated behaviour agan
11:44.53Fisker-arr :o
11:45.00Fisker-stupid sploitzers
11:45.07Fisker-breaking it for anyone else :(
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11:46.31CIA-2203nymbia * r36862 10Quartz/ (7 files in 7 dirs):
11:46.31CIA-22Quartz:
11:46.31CIA-22- Tweak the range settings on most layout fine-tuning sliders.
11:56.36HjalteIs anyone experiencing using Baggins, that they are not seeing the name of items in the bank in the tooltips?
11:57.03LaricworkHjalte: I get it with arkinv aswell
11:57.31HjalteOh.. Blizzard bug then? Or something they have in common maybe,
11:59.40Laricworkcould be
12:01.27Fisker-THE FIRE WITHIN ME BURNS
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12:08.16CIA-2203mallen * r36863 10TradeBar/ (Bindings.xml GUITradeBar.xml README.txt TradeBar.toc):
12:08.16CIA-22TradeBar:
12:08.16CIA-22- updated .toc and some smaller changes for LUA pdate
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12:12.24kenlyricawww, I want custom unit frames to freeze my wow client? how do I sign up?
12:14.02Fisker-i dunno
12:14.09Fisker-i wanna join too
12:14.46AKXDoes Prat have a Highlight module?
12:14.58nevcairieli think so
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12:15.46Fisker-yeah
12:15.50Fisker-"Popupmessage"
12:15.57sbuhmpf i dont get it
12:16.08Fisker-i do
12:16.12sbuyou can get Unstable Flask of Sorcerer and Bandid in those crystal forges
12:16.16sbuBandit
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12:16.32sbubut i need Elder + Physician
12:16.33Ominouskergoth: i dont mind that commit but can i lart you anyway :P :D
12:16.52kenlyricprat's biggest memory hog is the storing of char classes/names/levels, right?
12:19.08Ominous~whaleslap kergoth
12:19.20purlACTION beats kergoth upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
12:19.29CIA-2203ominous * r36864 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: fic syntax
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12:24.45kenlyricI wonder how hard it would be to make trainerfu use a central SV.
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12:26.04kenlyricI always wonder when things are done in an odd way if they are that way because the coder is odd, or the coder tried a more sensible way that didn't work.
12:26.54CIA-2203jncl * r36865 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
12:26.54CIA-22Skinner: Skinned SanityBags
12:26.54CIA-22- Fixed AuctionHouse Highlight bug
12:27.50WixiOminous: Just updated ClassTimer and getting some errors
12:28.07Ominouswhat erros
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12:30.47Stylpeckknight: there?
12:32.03StylpeAnyone in-game atm that can test a chat command for me?
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12:35.17Wixikergoth: you there?
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12:37.03LupitaME GETTING SOME ERRORS WITH CLASSTIME "
12:37.07chutwigwombatttttt
12:37.15Lupitaups
12:37.20Lupitasry 4 caps
12:37.57CIA-2203nevcairiel * r36867 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: removed more redundant checks
12:38.01Ominousargh
12:38.06evlWhat I always wonder
12:38.06Ominousyes they are fixed now
12:38.14Lupitaah thanks
12:38.21evlHow does your IRC client work if you can't see if you're writing in caps before you press enter? :P
12:38.22Lupitajust updating
12:38.44Lupitawriting without looking on monitor
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12:45.41CIA-22Babble-2.2:
12:45.41CIA-22- Babble-Spell-2.2: esES updated
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12:48.53CIA-22Quartz:
12:48.53CIA-22- Don't run :ApplySettings until PLAYER_LOGIN, then run it once (since each module calls it in :OnEnable() if they need to).
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12:51.48apldoes HealOrganizer 3 do something nowadays?
12:52.00apllast time I tried it I got a window with some buttons that didn't work
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12:53.48harldephinoa.. no.. i won't... give... in.. to it.. bastard.. *having like 5 fps in shattrath*
12:55.36RaydenUniaguf bit the dust with 2.1?
12:58.28Silviu-Nymbia
12:59.05Silviu-Ups, he`s gone :)
13:00.46evlAnyone that had 132 and tried baseMip 0 had some wierd ass squares turning uip when flying etc.?
13:02.06sbui dont know what 123 and baseMip means - but yeah, i also have strange texture flashing :o
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13:02.37Silviu-evl i just removed that line
13:02.53Silviu-But no strange textures
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13:09.38abbat_wOOO!
13:09.44abbat_wnice feature ;)
13:09.54DaemonaAntiarc ?
13:10.51knarf-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dJujKM635s&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epcworld%2Edk%2Fblogs%2FNotesbloggen%2F654%3Fa%3Drss%26i%3D0 <--- some wicked photoshop skills :>
13:14.55kenlyrichow is it possible that a mod can be instlalled correctly, enabled, not throw an error, but also not be loading?
13:15.00kenlyricvoodoo gnomes?
13:15.27knarf-kenlyric hmm 2 mods breakingeachother, I guess? :>:
13:15.34Daemonakenlyric be load on demand? like quartz for rogues atm?
13:15.46Daemonai have to load it by hand currently anytime i log on my rogue
13:15.47kenlyricmaybe.
13:15.48kenlyricIt's informant.
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13:16.05kenlyrichow do you load a mod that's lod?
13:16.28kenlyricsince /load apparently doesn't work :)
13:17.13Daemonai use mcp :X
13:17.17Daemonarather acp
13:17.22Daemonaand hit the load now button :X
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13:19.08kenlyricI could enable auctioneer, and set it to load never.
13:19.09knarf-grrr, sanity is not loading :<
13:21.07kenlyricso strange that grid isn't LoD.
13:22.49CIA-2203daviesh * r36875 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.fr.lua TableRegister/loottables.fr.lua):
13:22.49CIA-22AtlasLoot:
13:22.49CIA-22- French update
13:24.05CIA-2203ominous * r36876 10ClassTimer/ (Core.lua Locales/koKR.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: only icons is now easer to setup
13:27.19nevcairielwhy is my ratingbuster nit showing anything when PitBull is active?
13:27.40deltronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32617#24488 <-- sleepy willy > *
13:27.45nevcairiels/nit/not/
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13:35.01harldephintach? wtf..
13:36.08CIA-2203tsigo * r36878 10Cutup/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Cutup: Mostly code design changes, added some localization strings, improved some option layouts; added optional Waterfall and/or Dewdrop configs.
13:36.28kenlyriceven a mod that is LoD should have functional slash commands?
13:36.53harldephinright
13:38.17CIA-2203ayunyan * r36879 10ChatAssist2/ (ChatAssist2.toc Core/ChatAssist.lua Readme.txt ReadmeJ.txt): ChatAssist2: Fixed bug ItemLink (Enchant Item) doesn't work.
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13:39.15nevcairielseriously, i cannot find any reason why PitBull manages to screw up RatingBuster
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13:44.47[Ammo]blurgh
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13:48.16kenlyricsigh.
13:48.17kenlyricauctioneer isn't getting loaded either.
13:48.17deltronget 4.0.2 gamma
13:48.17kenlyricI have it.
13:48.20kenlyricthey loaded fine last night... I can't think off what could be different.
13:48.26deltronhmm it loaded fine last night for me
13:48.46kenlyricit's like there's a dependency missing, but they're both there.
13:49.17deltronI just downloaded it and extracted when I was already running last night and did a /rl
13:49.20deltronso I'm not sure
13:50.15nevcairielwell i nailed the RB issue to TipHookerLib
13:50.18nevcairielits not hooking
13:50.21nevcairielfor whatever reason.
13:53.36[Ammo]did they change the graphics engine for wow with 2.1
13:53.44[Ammo]my textures are flickering and chars further than 10 yards away are grayed out
13:53.45[Ammo]meh
13:53.50[Ammo]started after 2.1
13:54.34kenlyricpatches can screw with the cache.
13:54.46[dRaCo]yeah, try resetting the cache
13:54.50kenlyricthat's usually the first thing i do when I get problems like that.
13:55.08[dRaCo]nevertheless, imo they changed something... my wow is kinda unstable
13:55.11[dRaCo]wasnt before
13:55.30kenlyricthey change textures every patch. It screws with the cache.
13:55.47kenlyricI had a guy recently who was running on the same install since 2004... I boggled.
13:55.48[dRaCo]na, more like something that totally kills wow
13:56.06[Ammo]hmm
13:56.39[Ammo]I'll try the cache ting
13:57.19kenlyricappears to be a mod conflict thing... my bank/AH alt (which has very few mods loaded, gets auctioneer just fine. So, now the fun part.
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14:02.38nevcairieli think i know why it is happening
14:02.51nevcairielfor SOME reason, when PitBull is loaded, the PLAYER_LOGIN event gets suppressed.
14:02.57abbat_wbecause blizzard coders are indians?
14:02.57nevcairielthats why TipHookerLib is not working
14:03.48CIA-2203ammo * r36880 10Violation/ (13 files in 5 dirs): Violation: move some files around to prepare for more goodness
14:04.25CIA-2203saroz * r36881 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix buff applications not showing on top of buff icons.
14:04.42Chompers"more goodness" ooooh!
14:06.29Punkie`I know what it is!
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14:08.27SarozSHARE
14:09.00nevcairielI know that something causes PLAYER_LOGIN to not fire when PitBull is loaded
14:09.13nevcairielor alternatively, delay all addon loading after PLAYER_LOGIN already fired.
14:09.36kenlyricoh, is that maybe related to the thing in the topic, freezing the client?
14:09.39Punkie`It's a secret1
14:09.55kenlyricshhhhut up
14:10.17Punkie`I meant to Saroz, not you :p
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14:10.44kenlyricI was just making a simpsons joke
14:10.51Punkie`:P
14:11.21Punkie`By the way, has anyone else noticed that if you target someone and zone, you get a blizzard target frame that's just bugged out?
14:11.23kenlyricnevcairiel: yup, that's it.
14:11.36Punkie`Obviously only if you have custom unitframes
14:12.18nevcairielseriously, how can an addon even prevent that event from happening?
14:12.24kenlyricguess as a stopgap I can use aloft and nameplates.
14:12.27nevcairielthats something blizzard should check
14:13.17kenlyriccrap, nameplates won't work very well for a hunter.
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14:14.14unduMapnotes gets screwer up with rotateminimap on. :<
14:14.30deltronhmm really?
14:14.38deltronnot bothered with rotateminimap
14:14.45Tupsihow is the match kenco vs nymbia coming along? whats the score?
14:15.08wobin_we've devolved into name calling
14:15.09wobin_Nymbia,
14:15.09wobin_you realise Lua is written in C? So saying the profiler is written in C isn't anything special. If the profiler is so efficient, why is it disabled by default? Why does everyone only say to run it in testing and turn it off immediately after? I suppose i'll just have to hope my users are better at maths than you.
14:15.35Punkie`It's pretty shocking if you ask me
14:15.49Punkie`Isn't nymbia only really pointing out where he's going wrong?
14:16.04deltronbecause all C code is good
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14:16.22nevcairielEven the most efficient profiler causes overhead which is simply not necessary :p that guy is silly
14:16.32durcynwhat an asshat
14:16.35wobin_It's a profiler =P
14:16.37durcynwhere's the thread?
14:16.43nevcairielcurse comments
14:16.45[Ammo]http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/
14:16.46nevcairielto KTM
14:16.47Punkie`http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/
14:17.03[Ammo]owned
14:17.16krka<PROTECTED>
14:17.21wobin_oh wait
14:17.22wobin_http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/
14:17.36[Ammo]wonder where that threat (pun intended) is
14:17.46nevcairieli find it funny how he places "Nymbia," on the first line of all his responses :p
14:18.03[Ammo]imagine him shaking his index finger while doing that
14:18.10[Ammo]in a schoolteacher kinda way
14:18.10wobin_he does it for all the comments
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14:18.29Punkie`I can't believe he wrote this: Wow Nymbia, was my previous post a tad too long for you so you skipped right to the last paragraph or do you just fail at reading comprehension?
14:18.37krkanevcairiel: it's a way of writing who he's responding to
14:18.37Saroz"i run the keylogger version of KLM,how can i remove the keylogger need help" --- HUH?
14:18.45nevcairielkrka: shutup!
14:19.32[Ammo]yeah keylogger version of klhtm is nice
14:19.47hasteIt's awesome!
14:19.56deltronI want it!
14:20.00SarozTHAT EXPLAINS IT
14:20.02[Ammo]haste! your oCD sucks :p
14:20.03Punkie`rofl: Killmore, 1) If you are sitting in Ironforge doing nothing, who cares?
14:20.12[Ammo]it eats more CPU than my disembedded Ace2 :P
14:20.12haste[Ammoo]: I know >:3
14:20.15SarozThe CPU usage when idle.. it's logging my keys
14:20.16Sarozwtf!
14:20.18kenlyrickeylogger version works over time to make your mod memory usage 0%
14:21.46wobin_feh
14:21.52wobin_I just can't get WoW to shutdown cleanly
14:21.55durcyntempted to troll kenco and say that KTM forced me to buy new hardware just to use it
14:22.03[Ammo]trolling is not nice
14:22.08Tupsifence autofill seems still be broken
14:22.09durcynwho said anything about being nice?
14:22.11[Ammo]specially not when him and nymbia are having a nice convo :)
14:22.24Tupsidoesnt remember the values in between sessions
14:22.30Punkie`that would actually be quite funny durcyn
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14:23.22Sarozman.. I can't get over this comment: "i run the keylogger version of KLM,how can i remove the keylogger need help" how fucking stupid can someone be
14:23.37Punkie`Hey Xuerian, drinkin' some coffee?
14:23.58nevcairielSaroz: better dont ask that question
14:23.58Xueriandamn frickin straight <coffee>
14:24.02nevcairielyou wouldnt like the answer
14:24.31Punkie`Well put it this way
14:24.51hastePunkie`: I want my piece back :(
14:25.13durcynsighbomb.  this guy actually refuses to use events because they're "bad".
14:25.16kenlyricSaroz: you don't work in a computer support field, do you?
14:25.16Punkie`someone from my guild just posted on our guild forums: I just downloaded a keylogger without realising, fortunately though i managed to realise before entering my password in.. does anyone know where i can find the file and how to delete it?
14:25.30CIA-2203pettigrow * r36882 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
14:25.30CIA-22Babble-2.2:
14:25.30CIA-22- Babble-Boss-2.2: frFR Update
14:25.44Sarozactually I do :p
14:25.53Sarozwell, not so much anymore
14:25.54Sarozthank god
14:26.03XuerianPunkie`:  0.o...
14:26.30kenlyricif you did, you would never ask how fucking stupid someone can be.
14:26.32CIA-2203saroz * r36883 10sRaidFrames/ (7 files): sRaidFrames: Add an option for toggling visibility while in raids
14:26.38XuerianPunkie`: Get ProcessExplorer and find what shouldn't be running? Or hijack this..
14:27.01Punkie`I just told him to download an antivirus, since he blatently didn't have one
14:27.12Punkie`and someone like that shouldn't be allowed to use hijack this
14:27.25Xuerianheh. good point.
14:27.25kebinusanI love the booterang
14:28.55deltronlol what version is the keylogger version? how long was it up there?
14:29.05[Ammo]it was klhtmv2
14:29.10[Ammo]or something
14:29.13deltronoh
14:29.13[Ammo]or posted as that
14:29.17[Ammo]and had close to 500 download
14:29.20[Ammo]yay for that :p
14:29.21deltronpwnt
14:29.26Xuerianbahahaaha
14:29.38kenlyriclol@no server side AV scanning.
14:29.40deltroncurse should use something like clamav to scan the uploads
14:29.53kenlyricyeah, it's not 1995.
14:30.07Punkie`I think they do have av, at least they had this announcement one time
14:30.08kenlyricAnd when your only real job is hosting files... it's not rocket surgery.
14:32.03[Ammo]they removed authorization for files
14:32.13[Ammo]so now anyone can create a new project and upload without it being checked
14:32.47deltronhttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/general-news/community-news/curse-is-now-an-official-blizzardwow-fansite-resource/
14:35.12haarmhey uhhh... so whats the fix for prat today?
14:35.16haarmno modules loaded ;x
14:36.02Sarozmmo-champion and worldofraids pwns curse any day
14:36.40Punkie`Saroz: yes, because most of the curse traffic is for their amazing news system....
14:36.49SarozIt is with this that we are proud to continue to be one of the largest World of Warcraft websites in the world, providing our community with the latest news, addons and resources available. Meeting Blizzard's standards for security certainly has been a goal in itself here at Curse, and we hope to continue to serve you the best and the latest!
14:37.39KillmoreI have a little question, whats the difference between having a /BigWigs/ directory with all /BigWigs/SC/ ... /BigWigs/Karazhan/ inside AND having many /BigWigs_XXXXX/ ???
14:38.01haarmwell the ones outside are LoD and it saves your memory
14:38.11Killmoreok
14:38.23durcynjust watch out for /BigWigs/KeyLogger/
14:38.29Punkie`heh
14:38.36Killmorehaha :P
14:38.48Killmoreor /BigWigs_KeyLogger/ :P
14:39.04durcynno, that one's fine.
14:39.19deltronFuBar_KeyLoggerFu
14:39.49Punkie`stop inventing names for KLH people
14:40.09ilifinKLH?
14:40.26Punkie`KLM whatever
14:40.42renchapKeyLoggerMaster ?
14:40.47ilifinKeyLoggerM.. beaten
14:40.52deltronKLH Threat Meter
14:40.56Punkie`KLH threat meter
14:40.57Punkie`yeah
14:41.09Killmoreoh!
14:41.13Tupsiok this might be to obvious: how do I move the quartz bars?
14:41.32[Ammo]unlock
14:41.33[Ammo]it
14:41.34[Ammo]in
14:41.35[Ammo]the
14:41.36[Ammo]options
14:41.44[Ammo]has been asked already today
14:41.47deltronlol
14:42.25[Ammo]you can unlock/lock the several bars etc from their respective menus
14:43.21Tupsifound one finaly under players
14:43.38deltronman
14:44.03deltronyou guy sare going to make Kenco have an aneurysm
14:44.04deltronlmao
14:44.19Tupsithats the plan deltron
14:44.27Tupsithen they can take over
14:44.37deltronlol
14:46.57snurrethe unlock option is under the "player" section
14:47.11snurrenot exactly an intuitive name, so hard to find
14:47.25[Ammo]it's your player cast bar that you unlock
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14:47.28[Ammo]there are more stuffs to unlock
14:47.38snurrewhy not just name it "cast bar"?
14:47.39[Ammo]if you finish the secret cow menu level then you can unlock even more!
14:47.42[Ammo]shrug
14:47.46[Ammo]ask nymbia :)
14:48.03Cartass[Ammo] my man!
14:48.12deltronthere's some mage exploits using quartz heh
14:48.22art3mishttp://www.tbo.com/news/metro/MGBB0HMZ32F.html
14:48.37Ordog108 pages of comments on klm oO
14:48.39deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105811473&sid=1
14:48.55CyrezIs there any point of splitting Ace2 into it's individual libraries for LoD if I use enough different Ace2 addons that I need to load all of them anyway?
14:49.27kenlyricif you backup to a USB flash drive :)
14:49.37kenlyricit saves about 1500 files if you have enough ace mods...
14:50.50[Ammo]cartas hey hey
14:51.05CyrezI'm using standalones all the way already. What I'm asking is if there's any point in loading the Ace2 libraries individually if I need them all to begin with.
14:51.19[Ammo]Cyrez: not really, it's just easier to rpofile which part of ace2 is eating cpu
14:51.20CartasYou don't happen to be a genius with programming Windows Live Messenger / Windows XP too, do you, [Ammo], old chap? :p
14:51.22[Ammo]no real advantage
14:51.29[Ammo]not really
14:51.35[Ammo]we have some experience with messenger 4.7
14:51.41[Ammo]and a perl app that talks with it :p
14:51.42CyrezThanks, that's about what I was expecting. ^^
14:52.00kenlyrici wish dependency checking in WoW worked with libs.
14:52.02CartasKnow how to program it to open in a specific location on-screen?
14:52.26[Ammo]no
14:52.37[Ammo]we just communicated with it (and still do)
14:52.45[Ammo]but hacked more on 4.7's SIP support etc
14:52.50CartasOh woe is me!
15:00.31snurrehm
15:00.32snurrei cant enable health text on my player frame with pitbull
15:01.28sedatedChipmunkhealth text is for wimps
15:02.25snurrehidden is checked, but cant be unchecked
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15:15.59dottedhttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/#comment_259682 haha who upvoted me :D?
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15:19.55SarozI did!
15:21.40vid`heh clinton is giving commencement speech @ my college this year
15:21.42vid`http://www.rit.edu/convocation.html
15:21.43vid`thats cool
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15:22.53deltronnice
15:23.04LaricAntiarc is compressing disabled in sanity 2.1?
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15:27.33Antiarc|WorkPerfect timing, just walk in
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15:27.41Antiarc|WorkUnintentionally, yes. I broke it a commit or two ago.
15:27.44Antiarc|WorkI'll be fixing it. :)
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15:29.17Antiarc|WorkAlso, oy
15:29.37Antiarc|WorkKenco's really making me want to write an Ace KTM.
15:30.17yacoobhm
15:30.19deltronAntiarc|Work: good!!!
15:30.32deltronAntiarc|Work: you know how many people want an ace ktm? :P
15:30.32yacoobwhat's the rationale behind putting quest/item/spell data on wowwiki, when wowhead is better?
15:30.48yacoob(as in, it has data taken from game)
15:30.52Antiarc|Workdeltron: yes. I just don't want to actually spend the time doing it :P
15:30.57deltronyacoob: revisions
15:31.13deltronif I knew how to code in lua i'd help :P
15:31.59yacoobdeltron, I fail to see the benefit of filling the wowwikis pages by hand, that's what :)
15:33.01Industrialwowwiki items are filled by hand? o_O
15:33.16deltronI'm not sure
15:33.23binderwhat mod allows you to load and unload mods w/o relogging?
15:33.44deltroni'm checking with the wowwiki guys in #wowwiki now
15:33.47deltronheh
15:33.48IndustrialMCP ACP or soemthing
15:33.59yacoobdeltron, oh, there's a channel? I'll go :)
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15:38.18CIA-2203jerry * r36884 10Talented_Data/ (5 files): Talented_Data: talent updates for european languages
15:38.24Fisker-moar dodgizzla
15:38.26Fisker-dotted *
15:38.48Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=288809179&sid=1 <-QQ
15:38.50Fisker-:(
15:41.27Fisker-you got 20 seconds to either fix it or kill me
15:41.43yacoobthis could be arranged
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15:46.17deltronerb: zomg
15:46.28snurrehm, can anyone remember the console/config.wtf command to use desktop mousespeed?
15:47.14FrostByghteany idea if this http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/825 is being looked into?  It's killing me in the BG's
15:47.34dodgizzlaFisker-: hu? what? :o
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15:49.23Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1180108007689.jpg
15:50.13TecnoBratAntiarc, the Guild summary generator isn't working, armory seems to be up though
15:50.49TecnoBratIt says "ERROR: Unable to get node attributes; this likely means that we were unable to retrieve data for the entered realm/guild from the Armory. Please check your input and/or try again later."
15:51.54TecnoBratblah, it worked for another guild .. nm I guess
15:51.55snurrewtf.. klhtm is running at about 4% total cpu while idling... *cry*
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15:53.13Punkie`Fisker- LOLWUT. I have one of those, never tried it
15:53.26Punkie`man what a nerf, i used to slap it down in arenas while fighting all the time
15:53.32CIA-2203pb_ee1 * r36885 10RangeRecolor/RangeRecolor.toc: RangeRecolor: Updating TOC.
15:54.16Fisker-TecnoBrat it's because their site sucks :(
15:54.26Fisker-and Punkie` yeah fukken nerfed
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15:55.21TecnoBrataparantly it just hates my guild, lol
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15:56.07|Pixel|well
15:56.34|Pixel|what's your guild ? isn't there any 'strange' thing in it that'd cause either armory or the parser to fail ?
15:57.02TecnoBrat|Pixel|, its "Progeny" on Korgath
15:57.26dottedlol Fisker- :D
15:57.42TecnoBratso nah, its not no funky characters in the name, but maybe one of the characters has a funky character in it :P
15:58.23sylvanaarhaarm you get your issue fixed?
15:58.28Punkie`FrostByghte: there is an option in interface options to turn pvp things on and off, try it out
15:58.35haarmyea thanks sylvanaar
15:58.51haarmit was a problem with my svn script it seems.. well.. more the fact that half of prat didn't get downloaded :P
15:58.51FrostByghtePunkie: okie...I'll see if that helps next round
15:58.58erbz0mg deltron
15:59.00erblol
15:59.03erbzomg lunch time!#@
15:59.15|Pixel|http://armory.wow-europe.com/guild-info.xml?r=Korgath&n=Progeny&p=1
15:59.16sylvanaarAKX it does sort of - its called customfilter
15:59.17|Pixel|well
15:59.17FrostByghtenot being able to see any PVP objectives is terrible
15:59.23|Pixel|it seems your guild has a trouble on armory itself :P
15:59.28TecnoBrat|Pixel|. US
15:59.29AKXsylvanaar, that was a quick reply =D
15:59.31TecnoBratsorry
15:59.32|Pixel|ah, sorry ;)
15:59.35merlin1i have sex with erb's mom
15:59.39AKXPopupsomething worked just fine for me though sylvanaar
15:59.44merlin1especially when she laps up my cockcheez
16:00.18*** kick/#wowace [merlin1!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (get out, scum)
16:00.35sylvanaarAKX im at work, sry my IRC isnt configured right anymore for sound
16:00.37[Ammo]hrmf, hc beat me :p
16:01.02AKXNo worries sylvanaar
16:01.12AKXI still love you
16:01.53Chompersif i pasted a link to my character, could you lot give me ideas on what to improve?
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16:02.05merlin1hey scrub
16:02.10merlin1don't fuck with that which you cannot fuck with
16:02.36merlin1before i lay down the law on your mother's breast augmentations
16:02.37TecnoBrat....
16:02.48TecnoBrataprantly you want a ban?
16:03.01*** mode/#wowace [+b *!*n=merlin@167.245.244.*] by [Ammo]
16:03.01*** kick/#wowace [merlin1!n=wouter@connected.dnd.utwente.nl] by [Ammo] ([Ammo])
16:03.21Fisker-lolwut
16:03.29TecnoBratlol
16:03.52StephmwZero tolerance for that behaviour.
16:04.04Stephmwget enough of it in the barrens
16:04.29Fisker-then he would be banned for 3 days already :P
16:04.37Fisker-I remember someone calling me a cocksucker in trade
16:04.41AKXIn fact, go ahead and ban 167.245.244.* from files.wowace.com too, for giggles. :P
16:04.46sylvanaarhaarm which hald
16:04.50Fisker-4 days later he bitched at me in whispers and i reported him again
16:04.51sylvanaarhalf
16:04.53Fisker-haven't seen him since
16:05.09StephmwAKX: haha. drop the packets rather than refuse connections :)
16:05.21AKXOrder allow, deny
16:05.24AKXAllow from all
16:05.26Fisker-nah
16:05.29AKXDeny from 167.245.244
16:05.29[Ammo]I don't report people, I find out where they live and hire local tugs
16:05.32AKXBut yeah, heh.
16:05.33Fisker-download keyloggers and gayporn instead :P
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16:06.52haarmsylvanaar Prat_Modules sounds and Prat_AutoLoD
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16:08.06sylvanaareeeep
16:08.47packetlsssomething bad going on with the SVN?
16:09.04sylvanaaranyone get LLoyd's joke?
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16:09.16[Ammo]ofcourse
16:09.19TecnoBratsylvanaar, it was horrible
16:09.34sylvanaaroh, there are 10, but they have a value of 1 or 0
16:09.45[Ammo]sylvanaar: there are 10 types of people in the world those that understand binary and those that don't
16:09.57[Ammo]that's more or less the original
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16:11.10Ominousargh why does adding Alias /wiki /wiki/index.php to my .htaccess file cause a 500 server errro
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16:11.43sylvanaaryeah, an oddity of 0 based numbering is that there are more digits used to represent the number of possible values than there are in the possible values
16:12.08sylvanaar0, 1  -> 10 values
16:12.34renchapOminous: bad perm on .htaccess
16:12.47Ominousperm= permission?
16:12.50[Ammo]sylvanaar: euhm no, 10 is just 2 in binary
16:12.58sylvanaari know
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16:13.00renchapyes
16:13.10Ominousrenchap: what permissions shoudl it need?
16:13.19[Ammo]you're looking at a less obvious explanation :)
16:13.24renchapi dont remember :D
16:13.26sylvanaar0-F 0x10 values
16:13.52Ominousrenchap: well i put 777 on and it didnt work
16:14.02renchap644
16:14.33Ominousstill error
16:14.45renchapnothing in error_log ?
16:14.46sylvanaarim trying to think about something else so i can solve this problem at work thats vexing the hell out of me
16:14.58[Ammo]you should not need to use that alias
16:15.04[Ammo]if you put index.php as a proper index
16:15.17Ominousrenchap: where abouts on server would that be
16:15.30renchap/var/httpd/error_log maybe
16:15.33[Ammo]usually /var/log/httpd or /var/log/apache or /var/log/apache2
16:15.53Punkie`hai guyz: Missing node-id in node-rev.
16:16.06Fisker-i usually chown the webdir to www-data:www-data (That's the apache user/group on my system) and just chmod it 755
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16:17.18Ominouscant find it
16:18.43[Ammo]Ominous: type: locate error.log
16:18.49[Ammo]or locate error
16:18.55[Ammo]that last one you might want to | less
16:19.05Punkie`[Ammo]: go fix the public SVN!
16:19.32Ominousright, this is one thing i have been wondering, where in cpanel  do i type this stuff in
16:19.44Punkie`cpanel?
16:19.56Punkie`if you are using cpanel go into the file manager or something
16:20.02Punkie`and select a folder
16:20.10Punkie`and then there should be like, edit permissions
16:20.22Ominousurm, yes
16:20.27Ominousalso found the log
16:20.35Ominous.  /home/ominou/public_html/.htaccess: Alias not allowed here
16:20.53renchapno alias in .htaccess
16:21.01renchapput in in the virtual host config
16:21.27[Ammo]sorry Ominous I assumed commandline server administration
16:21.45[Ammo]those admin panels are usually very clumsy since I was raised on the commandline :p
16:22.18renchapOminous:  AddDirectoryIndex index.php index.php5 index.php4 index.php3 index.phtml
16:22.23renchapadd this in your apache config
16:22.29renchapthat is better :)
16:22.40[Ammo]like I said earlier :p
16:22.43[Ammo][18:14] <@[Ammo]> you should not need to use that alias
16:22.43[Ammo][18:14] <@[Ammo]> if you put index.php as a proper index
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16:23.34Ominousrenchap: do i have to do that for each differnet index
16:23.46renchapadd this in your httpd.conf
16:23.48Ominousand then what do i do, (sorry first time i have had anythingtodo with a website)
16:23.52[Ammo]you can add it to your generic config
16:24.01renchapand then reload apache config
16:24.08[Ammo]and then each time it finds such an index file it'll use it as an index if a specific index was not specified
16:24.09Fisker-unless your getting hosted by someone else that is
16:24.21[Ammo]so blah/ will check if it can find an index.php or index.php5 etc...
16:24.54Punkie`guys i doubt ominous has any permissions to those files or is able to restart apache :p
16:25.26renchapyou can also add it to .htaccess i think
16:25.37[Ammo]depends
16:25.40Punkie`Ominous: If you are not hosted on your own server, uploaded a .php file and it didn't work, php isn't likely to be installed
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16:25.46[Ammo]if he doesn't he should switch hosting :p
16:25.51Ominousphp is installed
16:26.39Punkie`then index.php should be registered as a default page
16:26.57Fisker-i found it easier just buying my own server :P
16:26.58Ominousgetting it to go to index.php isnt the problem tho
16:27.10Punkie`so why are you doing a redirect?
16:27.10Tupsihmm another bar moving questions, classtimers this time, found the menu, but no unlock
16:28.05Ominousso i can remove the index.php? from address, i am just folowing instructions on a wiki and it said the first step was the ht access edit
16:28.34Ominous./ct then bar settings then player then lock
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16:30.29Kaelteng'morning
16:30.43renchapsorry Ominous, it is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex
16:30.50renchapworks in .htaccess
16:31.47Tekkubso if I knock the TOC in an addon down to, say 11200 it'll go away from the file section?
16:31.55Tupsithanks
16:32.15Fisker-http://www-en.cursebeta.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/#comment_259682 <-haha :D
16:32.41Fisker-kenco is gonna be pissed
16:32.41Ominoushttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:FAQ#How_do_I_make_my_base_URLs_shorter.3F_.28i.e._.2Fwiki.2FArticle_Name_as_opposed_to_.2Fw.2Findex.php.3Ftitle.3DArticle_Name.29 is what i am trying to do
16:32.57Ominouswoops http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL
16:32.58Fisker-that was a bit ironic that link :P
16:33.08Ominousits the second one
16:34.11NeoTronso I had a fun GM experience. 1) pick the wrong ring from Mag's head quest. 2) realize first thing next evening
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16:34.31NeoTronso timeline: 10:20pm day 1 mag dies, 8-8:30pm day 2: reported to GM
16:34.50NeoTron2 am that night: Email from GM (I was still logged on) saying they can't restore since it's been more than 24 hrs...
16:35.52NeoTronsomewhere in between a lower ranking GM talks to me and confirms I want to exchange it, use a limited token etc and I say yes ofc
16:36.12NeoTronsubmit a second report and this morning it was replaced. still the inital reply psised me off
16:36.20Tupsinote to myself, dont configure addons with huge config screen on a spawnpoint of a lvl70 mob
16:37.08Fisker-NeoTron post on the customer support forums or email them :P
16:37.23NeoTronFisker-: I posted on the forums
16:37.27NeoTronbut will send an email
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16:37.38NeoTrontheir official "item restore page" has  no "24 hour limit" clause
16:37.46NeoTronI think that is particularily bullshittish
16:37.51snurrechange of quest reward is
16:38.02NeoTronsnurre: source?
16:38.15MikkHeh, we got a loot bug on Maulgar last week. Took 36 hours from report to us actually getting the items.
16:38.18snurrein us it's still 24h, in eu it's 7days
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16:38.31Mikk(We reported it like 10 minutes after the kill)
16:38.31NeoTronstill I did do it within the tiemframe. I suspect the second GM went with the date of the escalation of the ticket, not the initial submission
16:38.44NeoTronsnurre: 7 days, that's ok. 24 hours is not enough
16:38.55snurreraid loot doesnt have a time limit, it's just escalated into queue for investigation, then reimbursed (if possible) as soon as it reaches the top of the queue
16:39.27snurreNeoTron: youre right, the gm probably looked at the wrong timestamp
16:39.43NeoTronMikk: now she didnt' log out in bear form again, but my druid tank friend after getting T4 chest has 27.5k AC, 13.5k health and 39% dodge unbuffed except own MotW
16:39.57snurrebut imo 24h is fine.. not blizz' fault you didnt check which reward you picked before completing quest
16:40.34NeoTronsure but if anything quests like that should have a longer period since there's no way to repeat it. never the less I got it so I'm ok now
16:42.07MikkNeoTron: Impressive, but I've got to admit I didn't take some of the 2.1 epic armor boosts into account
16:42.28MikkSome pieces really did get lol amounts of armor increase
16:42.36NeoTronyep
16:42.50NeoTronbasically druids are back to the armor they had before that was nerfed
16:43.07MikkI'm still using some blues with better stats but less armor since .. well.. they were all-round better than the epics til now
16:43.08NeoTronso I wonder if blizzard had this change in mind when they initially nerfed it or if they realized afterwards that it was needed
16:43.10CIA-2203tekkub * r36886 10FuzzyLogic/FuzzyLogic.toc: FuzzyLogic - This isn't 2.0 compatible
16:43.14MikkBut then again I'm still not sure all that armor really helps
16:43.22NeoTronit does of course
16:43.28Mikk20.5k is 65% reduction already
16:43.31NeoTronmore armor increases survivability in a linear fashion
16:43.43Mikk25k is 69%
16:43.50NeoTronyes
16:44.07NeoTronit's not clear if you look at it that way BUT survivability nicrease from 1000 armor is always the asme
16:44.07MikkOf course, at those levels, "4%" is 12% damage reduction
16:44.32NeoTronso if you gained from 1000 armor with 10k AC, yuou gain the same when you have 25k AC :)
16:44.43MikkAye, not questioning that
16:44.52CIA-2203tekkub * r36887 10FuzzyLogic/: FuzzyLogic - BALETED! See http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/
16:44.52NeoTronthe goal is 36000 armor
16:44.53MikkJust wondering how well it stacks up compared to getting more dodge
16:45.05NeoTronat that point you've maged out at 75% against L73 mobs
16:45.07MikkWhich is easier to get
16:45.13NeoTronwell raid buffed she had 50% dodge
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16:45.17NeoTronwith a shaman mind you
16:45.21MikkOfc =)
16:45.34NeoTronstill
16:45.40MikkIn my dodgeball gear I get 57% or so
16:45.43Mikkwith a shammy
16:46.00NeoTronshe is working on getting the depleted trinket
16:46.04MikkPop moroes' watch and play evading rogue
16:46.09Cryectthe depleted badge is godly
16:46.11NeoTronwith that and moroes combined she can gain another 25% dodge :P
16:46.41MikkCan dodge even go above 75%?
16:46.45Cryectyes
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16:46.51Cryectyou can reach 100% dodge
16:46.53MikkOh yeah, it can
16:47.02MikkI just remembered the 120% dodge rogue pimps
16:47.06NeoTronbut you don't need 100% to avoid all attacks
16:47.09Cryecthits still can register as miss though
16:47.29MikkAye, base missrate from opponent, missrate from def rating, etc ..
16:47.35Nyrihm, can somebody tellme why my quartz bars are on the LoD status?
16:47.51Cryectthats only true for white attacks, I don't believe thats been proven for yellow attacks
16:48.11MikkCause everything needs be LoD omg! What if you go through an entire gaming session without casting!
16:48.14MikkThat's a nutty perf increase!
16:48.21Mikk</sarcasm>
16:48.27Nyri;]
16:48.36NeoTronyellow attacks has a 5% miss chance always, don't they?
16:48.44harldephini dunno why, but CharacterInfoFu isn't updating/saving and/or displaying bag contents correctly
16:48.44Nyribut they dont load if i cast
16:48.58NeoTronNyri: you didn't demand them hard enough!
16:49.03Nyri-.-
16:49.05Mikkhahaha
16:49.06Cryecteh you can reduce the miss chance on yellow attacks but yes its not dependent on level variance
16:49.13Cryectthe thing is yellow attacks roll differently than whites
16:49.57Nyrican i force them to load?
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16:54.11kenlyricMikk: or other people casting, or swimming, or swinging your sword, or hearthing, or logging outside of an inn.
16:56.48NeoTronman I'm so glad I got the Band of Crimson fury restored
16:57.04NeoTronthe only better ring available comes from black temple (ring with spell hit)
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16:58.36NeoTronheh I just told someone I started playing WoW in Jan 1994
16:58.46NeoTronThat was a REALLY EARLY version man
16:58.56nevcairiellol
16:58.58kenlyricmaybe you were in the alpha?
16:59.03nevcairielthats not even alpha
16:59.04Cryectthe prealpha!
16:59.09nevcairielthats internal development builds :P
16:59.19NeoTronI started Jan 2004 actually, which was alpha
16:59.26CryectWC1 was released in what year?
16:59.28NeoTronjust 10 years off
16:59.40nevcairieli started in closed US beta
16:59.42CryectJan 15, 1994
16:59.54CryectSee you were playing WC1 and thinking it was wow!
16:59.59nevcairielhehe
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17:00.08NeoTronI started during the undead push
17:00.09nevcairielback in that time, it just was "wow" :D
17:00.10kenlyricwarcraft 1 nearly destroyed my freshman college finals.
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17:00.16NeoTronmax level = 20
17:00.37NeoTronthey went through so many iterations with talent / skill points
17:00.43Saint-Nwell it was warcraft on a world
17:00.49Saint-N;)
17:01.05Saint-Nits quite amazing how much its grown since that first release
17:01.17kenlyricI found a website with Beta talent trees... They are hilarious.
17:01.25Saint-Nthe beta trees ruled!
17:01.31Saint-Nlinky!
17:02.12kenlyrictrying to find it again.
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17:02.20kenlyrictook me an hour just to find it.
17:02.20NeoTrontalents as they are today came late though
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17:02.29Funkeh`hey
17:02.34NeoTronI levelled a druid to 60 before they added druid talents (imagine how painful that was)
17:02.46nevcairiellol
17:02.52NeoTronand mind you druid talents sort of sucked, as did lack of for example a direct damaging finishing move
17:02.58NeoTronI argued A LOT for such a move for druids
17:03.09NeoTronthe dot just didn't cut it
17:03.36hyperChipmunkhunter lacerate ftw
17:03.44kenlyricthey still don't get one until their 40s, right?
17:03.56NeoTronnot quite sure
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17:04.09NeoTronbut it was mainly in the mid 40s and up that druid got real painful
17:04.23NeoTronand of course level 1-20 which still is painful :)
17:04.44Cryect<NeoTron> and mind you druid talents sort of sucked, as did lack of for example a direct damaging finishing move
17:04.46Saint-Nhey dont feel bad priests didnt get thiers until 63 or so
17:04.49Cryectyeah too bad FB sucks :-p
17:04.59Saint-Nand we just got it "nerfed"
17:04.59CryectTook them forever to add it also
17:05.10Saint-N12 seconds is too long!
17:05.12Saint-Nheh
17:06.07NeoTronCryect: did you play a druid without FB?
17:06.07CryectNeoTron: I've played a druid since beta
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17:06.07NeoTronthen you know the pain of not having it at all
17:06.17NeoTronas a feral druid you could typically get 5 combo points, rip and then get 5 more that were entirely wasted
17:06.19Loki|muhFB?
17:06.21CryectYes, but I would wish they get rid of FB almost though its kinda useful in PvP and thats it
17:06.26NeoTronor on easier mob by the time you had 5, 80% would be wasted
17:06.32NeoTronFerocious Bite
17:06.38Cryectthose 5 combo points are still totally wasted
17:06.43CryectFB lowers my DPS
17:06.44NeoTrondepends
17:06.52NeoTronnot if it's a killing blow
17:06.54Saint-Nwow and i thought hunters whined a lot ;P
17:06.55Loki|muhah
17:06.55CryectYes it is
17:07.01Cryectit just wiped out my energy for the next mob
17:07.06NeoTronah
17:07.08NeoTrontrue
17:07.09Saint-Nwah i cant tank, heal and dps!!!!
17:07.12NeoTronthat part is broken
17:07.13Cryectif it was flat 35 energy cost it would be good
17:07.15NeoTronthey need to remove that crap
17:07.20Killmorekenlyric: did you find the link with the old beta talent tree ? :P
17:07.28Loki|muhI always use lacerate, nearly never FB
17:07.34Mikkbah, l2time it so you're not using more than 40 energy for FB
17:07.36NeoTronI tended to only use it if I had around 35-45 energy
17:07.43Cryectits the hey I just fucked up your shred cycle
17:07.48NeoTronit's a retarded mechanic though
17:07.59Mikknot gonna disagree with that =P
17:08.02NeoTronif the bonus from the extra energy was actually worth it, it'd be fine
17:08.08NeoTronbut it's never worth the cost
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17:08.11CryectMikk: its only good to use if its using exactly 35 or 36 energy
17:08.20Gamefaqhiho
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17:08.27NeoTronrip is always better dps when you can use it
17:08.31CryectMesses up your shred cycle for bosses
17:08.33kenlyrichttp://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Talents.View.Beta&category_select_id=6&build=b4
17:08.37Mikkidd i know
17:08.38Mikkrip ftw
17:08.43kenlyricthat's beta 4
17:09.18kenlyricmind flaying waiting until level 30 makes me weep.
17:09.23Mikkwhat annoys me though is i still don't know if i should be blowing a mangle before ripping
17:09.27Mikkwhen i'm the only druid that is
17:09.43Mikkthat's a fuckload more damage out of rip with mangle on
17:09.50NeoTronby the time they added priest talents my priest was already level 40ish
17:09.52kenlyricand lol at imp shadow prot as a 31 point talent :)
17:09.53CryectMangle after the rip if it just fell off
17:10.01CryectYou have to maintain that mangle though
17:10.27Mikkwell, what you want to aim for is NOT maintaining the mangle when it's not doing any good
17:10.36NeoTroncheck imp Psychic Scream
17:10.37kenlyricold release talnets trees http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Talents.View&category_select_id=6&build=1.4
17:10.39hyperChipmunkyea, nice hunter tree
17:10.40CryectSo uh when you aren't shredding or ripping?
17:10.40Mikki.e. when you're just waiting for your energy to tick up for the next mangle->omgshred cycle
17:10.45NeoTronmade targets have a chance not to run but cower in fear
17:10.50hyperChipmunk>7\
17:10.57kenlyricsweet!
17:10.59NeoTronhyperChipmunk: hunter and druid trees were the last two
17:11.05Cryectwe have 2 or 3 feral druids plus 3 rogues in our raid always so...
17:11.13Cryectits always best to keep mangle on the target
17:11.13Mikkwell yeah
17:11.13kenlyricI like that rez used to cause rez sickness :)
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17:11.17Mikkin 25mans
17:11.19hyperChipmunki know =*(
17:11.20Saint-Ntheshadow tree didnt change all that much ;P
17:11.24Mikkwas more thinking of 10man stuff
17:11.31Saint-Nholy was pretty cool though
17:11.41Mikk(heh.. "stuff"... "kara", that is)
17:11.42NeoTronI love the various iteration of ressing
17:11.50NeoTrononce upon a time you bound yourself to a location
17:11.51Cryect10 man stuff I've not done in months always have kara on the weekend when I rather go out :-p
17:11.56Mikkhaha
17:11.56NeoTronand when you died you popped up there
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17:11.59CIA-22Babble-2.2:
17:11.59CIA-22- Spell: updated zhTW
17:12.12NeoTronso in thunder bluff pond, there was always tons of corpses laying around as people teleported themself using suicide
17:12.17Cryectand I'm not going to worry about optimum DPS in a 10 man :-p
17:12.35MikkCryect: yeah it mostly doesn't matter a hell of a lot in kara... except when i get stuck in the group with more nubbs in it and we haev problems on prince/nightbane/netherspite
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17:12.44Saint-Nlaugh neo
17:12.45kenlyricSaint-N: that's because the shadow treee hardly changed at all in our class review.
17:13.01kenlyricsome sensible reorganization, mostly.
17:13.02Saint-Nkenlyric: thats true, but its been pretty consistent
17:13.22Saint-Ni mean shadow has suffered what 3 nerfs or so in a year and a half?
17:13.29Mikk(then again i should worry more about boosting my dps gear than skill cycles tbh.. it's hasn't been getting the attention it should have with my focus on tanking gear)
17:13.36Saint-Nno ve crit, sw:D longer cooldown, reduced to 15%
17:13.36kenlyricshadow suffered all of its nerfs post 2.0 :)
17:14.23kenlyricI still hate that silence required psychic scream, and that's been there from the beginning.
17:14.35Saint-Nyeah
17:14.38NeoTronhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai  <-- does anyone see me using a ring in the second slot?
17:14.39Antiarc|WorkGuys, I'm actually writing an ace threatmod framework
17:14.43Saint-Nits not like ps is even "more" useful as a "dont hit me" defence
17:14.45Antiarc|WorkPlease someone stop me before I get in too deep :(
17:14.46CryectAntiarc:YEAH!
17:14.49CryectNO!
17:14.51ggilbertantiarc, stop
17:14.54Antiarc|WorkBut every time I read that Curse thread I start coding.
17:15.08ggilbertAntiarc|Work: Finish sanity bags first :)
17:15.17Antiarc|WorkWTB 4x more of me PST
17:15.20CryectPfft who cares about sanity bags :-p
17:15.25NeoTronit seems the armory doesn't handle new 2.1 items corrctly
17:15.28deltronAntiarc|Work: i kiss you!
17:15.31Antiarc|WorkAlso, greg, you can code. I am always looking for new help on the project...
17:15.33kenlyricAntiarc|Work: call it STK. Sanity Threat Keylogger
17:15.35ggilbertAntiarc|Work: I don't think the worlds food supply could support 4 of you :)
17:15.41Antiarc|Workkenlyric: Ahahahahahahaha
17:15.42Antiarc|WorkI just might
17:15.51Antiarc|WorkI was working with the name "Omen"
17:15.53Saint-Ni kind of wish they'd just let us spam fear, move silence up and give us some way to self res ;P
17:15.56Antiarc|WorkBut I like Sanity Threat Keylogger a LOT.
17:16.13Antiarc|WorkJust FYI, I expect you all to help me write this once I have the basics done.
17:16.14MikkI would like it if Ace mod names started making more sense :S
17:16.17Saint-Ni mean we're the gods servants, surely They would provide us a way to raise our own corpse
17:16.19Saint-N;)
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17:16.35Antiarc|WorkSaint-N: You can self-rez. Make a pact with the devil.
17:16.37GagorianAntiarc|Work: I'm in :>
17:16.40kenlyricexactly.
17:16.41Antiarc|WorkThat is, buddy up with a warlock :P
17:16.50Saint-Nmikk: i'd be happy with authors putting in a readme to describe what thier friggin mod does and some common commands ;P
17:16.59kenlyricthey need to remember that we're jesus.
17:17.05kenlyricand we need all the powers of jesus.
17:17.05Saint-Nlaugh i always have a lock and a bear as friends ;P
17:17.06Antiarc|WorkOnce I have the basic ideas in, I'll do a branch commit and get you all to start hacking on it.
17:17.12Saint-Nim starting to feel like dr.dolittle
17:17.12MikkSaint-N: Or making the toc description make sense
17:17.16kenlyricconjuring food and water, self rez, friend rez.
17:17.19Mikk"Toss those bugs inna sack!"
17:17.21Mikk^ mkay?
17:17.22hyperChipmunkfirst commit should ALWAYS have a description
17:17.25GagorianSaint-N: But 95% of people don't bother to read the readme files and ask the same questions that are in the file
17:17.35Saint-Nwell then screw em
17:17.36kenlyricwe do become more powerful than you can possibly imagine when we die.
17:17.39NeoTronDo you remember how druids used to have a 1hr CD self res?
17:17.39Saint-Nim part of the 5%
17:17.45Saint-Nand i demand satisfaction!
17:17.52Saint-Nyeah
17:17.55Cryectyeah and shamans had combat res at the time
17:18.03NeoTronthe druid self res was so useless
17:18.08Antiarc|WorkBut my initial inclination is this - module-based, each client is responsible for keeping a running tally of their own threat levels, modified by outgoing damage/heals, rage/mana generation, any buffs or debuffs, equipment, and mob abilities on self (knockback, etc).
17:18.15NeoTronit's the "save 10 minutes run back when grinding" skill
17:18.20NeoTronsince yoyu had no res ability
17:19.08Antiarc|WorkThis will be synched with your group, respect to a master target, and each will also report NPC abilities (Again, modular, think bigwigs) that can affect raid threat levels.
17:19.19Saint-Nwheni first started my priest i seem to remember smite sucking so bad that it took like 5 mins to kill those starter things
17:19.22Antiarc|WorkThe rest is just filling in the specific cases.
17:19.36Saint-Nyou could get 3 off with full mana and there was like a 5 second cooldown
17:21.31NeoTronregarding threat btw, is it true that healing threat is equally divided on all targets in a fight/ rather than each mob receiving the whole threat from the heals?
17:22.02packetlssNeoTron: thats what i've heard anyway
17:22.16packetlssall non CCed targets
17:23.49Verxionsoo is there someone here willing to explain focus target to me?
17:24.05CryectNeoTron: yes it is
17:24.08Wogroipl_<PROTECTED>
17:24.25CryectWowwiki is not a good source on whats true or not >_>
17:24.37deltronlolwut?
17:24.38NeoTrondoes it have an area limitation?
17:24.47NeoTronor any mob that is engaged with the party?
17:24.55CryectAnyone who's threat table you are on
17:25.07CryectAnyways impossible to track it threat wise
17:25.15kenlyricCryect: then fix it :)
17:25.21Cryectsince can't count mobs really (well unless they are all targeted)
17:25.34NeoTronbut.. how do you get on a mobs threat table from healing?
17:25.42NeoTronhealing something they are beating on?
17:25.45CryectHeal something that person is engaged with
17:25.45VerxionNeoTron: healing generates aggro
17:25.56packetlsshealing something they have on threatlist
17:26.06NeoTronso it's basically like a disease
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17:26.15NeoTrongood to know
17:26.21kenlyricexacttly.
17:26.31Cryectbasically works just like how being PvP flagged works :-p
17:26.34abyssichateOh, nice, Season 2 is starting soon
17:26.35kenlyricwhich is why feign death and vanish are so dangerous.
17:26.39Verxionso, no one knows anything about focus target, or no one is willing to explain it to me?  :)
17:26.52NeoTronCryect: except less visible :-)
17:26.57NeoTronVerxion: just /focus <target>
17:27.12NeoTronand then use a macro like: /cast [target=focus] Fear
17:27.14NeoTronfor example
17:27.21VerxionNeoTron: does "/focus <target>" change what target I am actively attacking?
17:27.25NeoTronnope
17:27.29NeoTronit's an additional "bonus target"
17:27.37Verxionok
17:27.39NeoTronunrelated to the target you're attacking
17:27.42Verxionthat was the impression I was getting
17:27.43Cyrez"svn: Missing node-id in node-rev" < WTH?
17:27.45Verxionbut wanted to be sure
17:27.56NeoTronso it's useful for a healer (put on the tank), for crowd control, for escort quests etc
17:28.01Verxionand there can only be one active "focus target" at a time?
17:28.05NeoTronyep
17:28.09Verxionawesome
17:28.18Verxionthat will help my macros immensely methinks
17:28.28Verxionalso, anyone know what broke macros in the patch?
17:28.41kenlyricit's awesome for escort quests.
17:28.42ashai|hcwhere do those aggro formulae come from?
17:28.48Verxionall of my "/castsequence" macros broke
17:29.07Verxionashai|hc: from smart people
17:29.08Verxion:)
17:29.24NeoTronhttp://wow.pastey.net/40467
17:29.35NeoTronthat's a macro I use for banishing
17:30.30Verxionsorry to be anal here, but I wanna be sure about this - doing "/clearfocus" doesn't remove my actively being attacked target?
17:30.37NeoTronnope
17:30.41NeoTronjust clears the focus targe
17:30.50kenlyricmy macro for  shackle is nice, except when i'm trying to dps another undead :)
17:30.58NeoTronthat macro will: remove focus if the target is dead, friendly or if I hold a modifier down
17:31.06kenlyricthe logic is such that it expects me to want to shackle my target.
17:31.13NeoTronand then set the focus target if it's unset/invalid and cast banish
17:32.42kenlyricI just wish target=luckycharm3 was a valid condition...
17:32.50NeoTronso let me tell you this - using my booterang to kick lazy peons into shape was fun
17:33.27Verxionhehe
17:33.41CyrezI think aggro is best described in that cartoon that's got a scene in that Flash of the Onyxia wipe.
17:34.11CyrezYOU SEE, THERE'S THIS THING CALLED "AGGRO." IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED, VERY TECHNICAL ROLEPLAYING EXPRESSION.
17:34.11CyrezLOOSELY TRANSLATED, IT MEANS "THE PRIEST DIES."
17:34.45CyrezAlways loved that part.
17:34.49Verxion:)
17:35.13SarozHOLY MOTHER OF GOD.. aguf sucking a fucktruck of CPU suddenly (no, not embeds)
17:35.38CyrezAnd it's so true.
17:35.53NeoTronI did the 5-man ogri'la starter quests with a moonkin
17:36.05CyrezUsually because somebody else screws up and the Priest has to try to save the day from their stupidity.
17:36.06NeoTronshe had quite a bit worse gear than me, did almost half my dps and still managed to be above me on threat
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17:36.21NeoTronlike 60-70% of my damage at most
17:36.29NeoTronwas impressive
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17:38.25CyrezBut that's the thing about Threat...
17:38.40Cryectheh yeah
17:38.46Cryectotherwise warriors would be fucked
17:38.48deltronI got a good idea for the name of the mod, how about MinorThreat
17:38.52Cryectsince people are often doing 10 times their DPS
17:38.53deltronlike the punk band? :D
17:39.10StephmwMajorityReport?
17:39.35CyrezNormally, you hit hard or heal a lot, but there's a few things that are the MMO version of giving a mob the finger.
17:40.03CyrezWhich work surpisingly well at the right times.
17:40.10StephmwCyrez: spamming scorch as a mage is sure to get its attention... fire+mage+crits... ooooh boy.
17:40.52CryectNot really
17:40.58CryectMore like searing pain
17:40.58CyrezBeing a Gnome Mage is usually enough to draw attention.
17:41.05CyrezZOMG, KILL THE MIDGET!
17:41.08Cryectyou aren't doing much damaeg but sure getting attention :-p
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17:41.53NeoTrona warlock in the guild managed to pull aggro off our top feral druid tank
17:42.04NeoTronironically she's badly geared and me and the other top dps warlock can't do it
17:42.12NeoTronand she's insisting she's not using searing pain
17:42.13dottedlet me guess
17:42.18dottedgnome?
17:42.21NeoTronso I don't get it
17:42.24NeoTronhuman actually
17:42.30Kalman|Gnomes don't actually get more aggro.
17:42.37Kalman|They just do more damage.  ;)
17:42.37Verxionyes they do
17:42.40VerxionI hate gnomes
17:42.40dottedofc they do
17:42.48Kalman|<--- ex-gnome
17:42.59Verxionof course, I hate humans too, lol
17:43.41NeoTronnow when grinding netherwing faction.. I'm glad I'm human. and in general that 10% faction gain bonus > a bit more int
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17:45.08Kalman|I was a gnome rogue, though.  Int?
17:45.20NeoTronsmall and annoying then
17:45.29Cryectthe gnome racial doesn't even stack wtih kings last I recall
17:45.58Cryectmight as well be a dwarf rogue :-p
17:46.05Cryectthough escape artist is good
17:46.09Kalman|EA is really, really good.
17:46.19durcyni seem to recall that expansive mind didn't even stack with -gear- last i checked
17:46.21Cryectsame with stoneform though
17:46.23CyrezYep.
17:46.34Cryecthaha is it just 5% base mana?
17:46.43NeoTronI rerolled as lock
17:46.44Kalman|Eh, I'd rather have the ability to clean off any root/snare on a 1 minute timer than a 2 minute poison/disease removal.
17:46.51NeoTronpicked gnome, played 6 levels
17:46.52CyrezEven some DoT's can be dispeled with it because they have a slowing effect.
17:46.56Kalman|Yep.
17:47.00NeoTronthen I started over as human
17:47.01Kalman|AQ40 bug debuff, for one.
17:47.26durcynmy gnome warlock is the reason i don't care to level anything else, i don't know what you're talking about neo :O
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17:50.47CyrezI think SVN caught the flu. :(
17:51.00CIA-2203stefan * r36891 10DynRepBar/DynRepBar.toc:
17:51.00CIA-22DynRepBar:
17:51.00CIA-22-toc updated to new wow patch
17:52.07NeoTrondurcyn: well I read about all the reputations needed in BC
17:52.14NeoTronand decided 10% more rep was more valuable
17:52.29Saint-Nhrm cross over seems pretty rad so far
17:52.50deltronjeez you guys are mean to KTM today lol
17:52.53Saint-Nit actually just makes little happy "bottles" for the os so you can install whatever winders stuff you want
17:53.31Saint-Ninstalling wow on a linux-xp box right now like i would normally
17:53.38NeoTronwhat is the GM feedback email? wowgmfeedback@blizzard.com or something?
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17:54.06deltronwowgmfeedback-us@blizzard.com
17:54.11NeoTronthanks
17:54.11deltronsomething like that
17:54.17Saint-Nopen a ticket and just ask em to spam the goodbye macro ;P
17:54.22Saint-Nsweet
17:54.23NeoTronlol
17:54.29Saint-Nmy wife just met rip torn
17:54.42hyperChipmunksweet
17:54.52deltronrip torn is awesome
17:55.00Saint-Nshe works at the blood bank in nyc and he was in donating blood
17:55.06hyperChipmunkhaha
17:55.34Saint-Nher: i think you're fantastic  him: well thank you very much, i wish my ex-wives thought so
17:55.58Saint-Nits one thing to see celebs in new york
17:56.04Saint-Nquite another thing to see living legends
17:56.43Saint-Noh and i got to chat with brian green a few months back
17:56.47Saint-Ngreene
17:56.57Saint-Nphysics nerds should know that name ;)
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17:58.56sylvanaari think the lead technical writer position is vacant for whoever cares to volunteer...
17:59.31ckknightsylvanaar: for what company?
17:59.48Antiarc|Workckknight: Does ParserLib manage non-damaging effects, like Feint?
17:59.54sylvanaarhere
17:59.58Saint-Nlaugh
18:00.05ckknightsylvanaar: your company?
18:00.14Saint-Ngetting ckk to actually invest time and document everything he does? thats just craz talk
18:00.23sylvanaarno, no, technical writer = documentation writer
18:00.25ckknightsylvanaar: or wowace?
18:00.33sylvanaarwowace
18:00.36ckknightoh
18:00.39ckknightno money in that...
18:00.43sylvanaarnope
18:01.19sylvanaarbeing that you are in hawaii (right?) there must not be alot of opportunities there
18:01.34Loki|muhis there a way to update WAU with WAU?
18:01.34KalleDK_LapHey ;) I need some help with ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler... I want to not show some whispers and then whisper then back... The problem is if I got whispers in to chatframes they get 2 replys.. code here http://wowi.pastey.net/40482
18:01.34Saint-N<cover>The Complete guide to WowAce  <indent>WoWAce is neat it does stuff... checking the bloody wiki.... the end</cover>
18:02.06sylvanaarLoki|muh no, cause it can be hijacked and used to download trojans
18:02.26KalleDK_LapI tried to use a timer to detect, though when I run it the "old" time is not getting updated before the next whisper
18:02.29Saint-Nas opposed to just putting trojans in yer addons for people to download?
18:02.32ckknightsylvanaar: but so many other programs use that system.
18:02.43ckknightalright, I gotta go to work
18:02.47ckknightblah.
18:02.55deltronsylvanaar: I was wondering that, can you at least post a link to sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater?
18:02.58sylvanaari know - but they either use code signing or take a risk
18:03.24sylvanaarand f-that i'm not paying for a code signing cert
18:03.35Saint-Npitbull has a special channel that takes everything you say and broadcasts it, as well as pertinent data about your computer logins passwds and cookies
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18:03.58Saint-Nso all ckk has to do is logon and his "reciever" addon will spew out info on everyone
18:04.15Saint-Nsyl
18:04.48Loki|muhsylvanaar: pay? signed with a gpg/pgp would be enough in my eyes
18:04.53Saint-Nif thers an update... pop the magical "Hey you've got an update!" go here: http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater
18:04.56Loki|muh+key
18:05.03Saint-Nbox
18:05.08Ominousckknight: out of interst why is babble-spell set to strictness(true)
18:05.10Saint-Nand they can click if they wish
18:05.31Saint-Nbut yeah pgp key and a md5 hash would be good enough
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18:05.53Loki|muhjust as wishlist item for 1.9 :)
18:06.30sylvanaarseriously, if you want it code it, the current version opens your webbrowser to the download page..that seems plenty
18:06.45deltronit does?
18:06.54CryectPfft if you just had WAU on files.wowace.com!
18:07.01Cryectthen it would work so easily :-p
18:07.04PHL-Chuckwhen I crash out with this lame 132 error the next time I log in alot of times my pitbull doesn't have text in the bars, then I have to reload and risk another 132 error lol.. any ideas?
18:07.40Arrowmasterwhere did nymbia go
18:08.02deltronArrowmaster: i think kenco killed him
18:08.02sylvanaarhaving it on sf does mean that only myself and a couple others can modify the posted version
18:10.49renchapeu auth down :(
18:11.39sylvanaaryou guys havent event updated to the current version of 1.8 ill bet
18:11.49deltrondo eeet
18:12.00Saint-Nso for everyone who wants linux but doesnt want the hassle of configuring and and wants win32 stuff
18:12.09Saint-Nget linux-xp+crossover 6.0 linux
18:12.15deltronthough before I installed 1.8.23, nothing popped up in a new browser
18:12.31Saint-Nlooks like xp, supports wow and office 2k3 and other winders stuffs
18:12.34Saint-Nbut its linux
18:12.52ulicnice, yea Crossover is pretty clean
18:12.55Saint-Nand it recognized my pci-e rage x300 without needing extra config
18:13.10Saint-Nyeah
18:13.15Saint-Nim rather impressed with it right now
18:14.31Lyfethen there's Crossover Mac (for people like myself) which only makes sense for a handful of windows games, since all the really good ones work on mac as well.  and office 2004 for mac is better than office for windows. :)
18:15.08Saint-Nyeah
18:15.16Saint-Nhow does it behave on intel-mac?
18:15.26Saint-Npretty clean or does it get kludgey here and there?
18:15.40Antiarc|WorkHm. Does Parser-3.0 handle "You perform X on Y" events?
18:15.40Kalman|Why wouldn't you use Parallels/Bootcamp on intel mac?
18:15.44Lyfewell, given the kinda code you're likely to run on it, it's kinda .. yeah.
18:15.51Lyfekalman: cause i don't want to rebot?
18:16.00Kalman|Lyfe: Parallels is a VM setup, doesn't require reboot.
18:17.00Lyfesorry, i saw bootcamp and thought "reboot"..
18:17.00Kalman|Sokay.
18:17.00durcynbootcamp is the dual-boot bootloader from apple, parallels is the vm
18:17.00Lyfeand parallels does not support directx, except in software rendering, which as we all know, is like using windows with a non-3D card.
18:17.00Saint-N"Simulating a windows reboot"
18:17.00Saint-N"Loading Fake Windows"
18:17.05durcynvmware fusion beta is out as well, if you're in the market for a vm
18:17.11Lyfeunless, they finally made a new release of parallels that does.
18:17.25durcyndirectX?  i highly doubt that'll ever happen
18:17.53Lyfevmware fusion works pretty well when you disable the debugging code.  (lot of overhead).  they support directx 8.1 games.. course, halflife (original) caused a bsod on winxp under vmware fusion :P
18:18.09Lyfesome older directx games worked under it.
18:18.41deltronanyone got any screens of pitbull in action?
18:18.50Lyfeand, both parallels and vmware are working on directx 9 support for their vm's, since it's likely to have windows on the VM, anyway.
18:19.15durcyni stand (sit?) corrected.
18:19.22[dRaCo]deltron: http://cooco.de/drc/ui.jpg
18:19.38deltronthanks
18:19.45deltronI need to update UI pics
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18:24.42deltronwell
18:24.54deltronI seem to be converting almost everyone in #wow on efnet over to pitbull
18:25.21[dRaCo]^^
18:25.33Lyfethat's cause it works well.
18:25.54deltronyeah
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18:30.59KillmoreI converted some members of my guild to pitbull to :P
18:31.10Killmoreand Quartz as well
18:31.11_NiCAnyone know how to set up stance-switching of actionbars in bongos2? The whole stance-setting-link isn't in the menu anymore :-\
18:31.52Xuerian_NiC: Right click the bar in unlocked mode
18:31.53Xuerian:)
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18:32.43Punkie`[dRaCo]: get some UI scale on!
18:33.01[dRaCo]uhm. why?
18:33.19Punkie`because its huge!
18:33.41_NiCxuerian: hm.. I only get size, colums, spacing, scale and opactiy to change.
18:33.51XuerianTabs on the left
18:33.57XuerianPaging and Stance ;)
18:34.20_NiCAh! They were off my screen ;-)
18:34.22_NiCThanks :)
18:34.56deltron:P
18:35.05sdoubleexcellent job Killmore, pitbull and quartz are awesome
18:35.36Iceroth"Violation-1.0.36614\Violation.lua:1504: table index is ni" O.o
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18:35.48Iceroth+l
18:36.33Punkie`Iceroth: You have only yourself to blame for such malfunction!
18:36.50Icerothprolly.. but that's not the worst that's happening -.-
18:38.15Icerothi'm getting spammed in /w by a raid member: /Khbu*md2{1.0.29784DtXmR)mJTm(0m@xmJP
18:38.17Icerothanyone got the slightest idea what's with that?
18:38.34nevcairielthats an acecomm whisper, i think
18:39.00nevcairieltell them to update and use addon-msg whisper :p
18:39.53deltronthat's lol
18:40.00deltronhave them use wau
18:40.14sdoubleheh
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18:41.10_NiCxuerian: I'm not sure I get it anyway. :-) Am I supposed to right click on say, actionbar 1, and drag the sliders for the various stances to select the bars that will replace actionbar 1 in those stances?
18:41.51nevcairielmm
18:41.57nevcairielsRaidFrames is using 5mb of memory
18:42.01nevcairielweird somehow
18:42.28_NiCI'm only able to select the bar for berserker stance, all the others causes no change at all.
18:42.52Kaeltenhas anyone ever gotten "uncaught exception: Permission denied to call method XMLHttpRequest.open" when doing a same site ajax call?
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18:43.31Icerothhttp://iceroth.net/wow/pante-spam.jpg
18:43.55Punkie`Iceroth: tell him to update already
18:44.02Punkie`and if he doesn't, ignore him
18:44.08Icerothalready did :p
18:44.11_NiCHm, I think I got it to work now.. Had to be in the stance I used the slider for
18:45.12deltronwhat kinda spam is that anyways?
18:45.52renchapKaelten: maybe XMLHttpRequest is disabled
18:46.16Kaeltenrenchap: just used it a few mins ago without issue
18:46.22Kaeltenon a nother function
18:46.27renchapweird
18:47.35Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/threadnecro.JPG
18:47.38Fisker-oops :o
18:49.54sdoubleoops?  did you mean to paste something else?
18:49.59Arrowmasteranybody else having problems with quartz
18:50.05Chompersoh my
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18:54.58Nyriquartz only gets out of LoD status on reload ui, imho
19:02.29Arrowmastereven when i load quartz manually its all bugged
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19:07.04Fisker-sdouble nah i meant to paste it in another channel :P
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19:07.35kergothmaybe LoadManagers is buggy
19:07.41CIA-2203nimbal * r36892 10Buffalo2/Buffalo2-frFR.lua:
19:07.41CIA-22Buffalo2:
19:07.41CIA-22- fixed typo in frFR
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19:09.33Brunerssteino: there?
19:10.13steinoBruners: ay
19:11.31Brunersgot time for some private chatting ? :P
19:11.53Arrowmasterkergoth: it is from what ive heard
19:12.00steinosure
19:15.11VerxionSo after the patch, /castsequence macros seemed to stop working.  Anyone know why?
19:15.16Verxionkergoth - you into Linux?
19:16.42durcynVerxion: try it with a trailing semicolon
19:17.22Verxion<PROTECTED>
19:17.25Verxionlike that?
19:17.40Verxionthat would make the difference between it working at all versus not working?
19:18.03[dRaCo]Auto Shot <-- ?
19:18.18[dRaCo]don't think that's a valid skill name, is it?
19:18.19durcynthat's one of the suggested temporary fixes for the bug, and it is apparently an actual bug
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19:20.10durcynVerxion:  http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/105750997.htm
19:21.28kergothVerxion, yes
19:21.41Verxionkergoth: did you used to have a sharp zaurus?
19:21.47Verxion(or maybe still have one)
19:21.57kergothi was the founder of openzaurus
19:22.06Verxionthen you are the dude
19:22.10Verxionhow the hell are ya man?
19:22.20Verxionlong LONG time no see
19:22.21Verxion:)
19:23.03kergothnot bad, been a while.  weird seeing zaurus folks around here.  treke and twiun and a few others hang out around here too
19:23.05kergothyou?
19:23.12kergothand neotron
19:23.20kergothhe did those ports of those games for the Z back in the day
19:23.22VerxionI thought neotron looked familiar
19:23.23Verxionrofl
19:23.30Verxionyeah, that's right!
19:23.37Verxionman oh man
19:23.39Verxionso like
19:23.43Verxionyou have a 70?
19:23.44Stephmwbwahahaha
19:23.47Verxionor you just code stuff?
19:23.49Verxionor what?
19:23.49Verxion:)
19:23.51Loki|muhlol
19:24.41Stephmwre
19:24.41NeoTronheh
19:24.50Verxionhey Neotron, you remember me?
19:24.52NeoTroncan't say I've used my zauruses for a long time now
19:24.58Verxionzaurii
19:24.59Verxion:)
19:25.05StephmwNeoTron: he's not a Zaurus, dammit
19:25.10StephmwNeoTron: he's a real person!
19:25.35NeoTronfrankly I don't off the top of my head. been a long time. heh
19:25.45Verxionno worries
19:26.13kergothVerxion, i have a 70 rogue, yes, and code a little, though nothing huge.  i wrote the object model used in ace2 (AceOO), and a couple small addons like kEnergy
19:26.24deltronI miss my old zaurus
19:26.45VerxionThis was my app: http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=936
19:26.57nevcairielvhaarr: i am whispering myself with announces from BigWigs ....^^
19:27.02Verxionfrigging April 19, 2003, lol
19:27.10Verxionoh that's right, digi
19:27.11Verxionlol
19:27.15NeoTronhehe
19:27.29kergothgetdone, i remember that
19:27.39VerxionI think I gave you a free copy kergoth
19:27.56deltroni should try and get my zaurus working
19:28.06Verxionso your 70 rogue, is it alliance?
19:28.09kergothVerxion, yeah you did, i remember that
19:28.16NeoTronhttp://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=14 <-- app #14 heh
19:28.19deltronhorde!
19:28.23kergothnaw, troll on arathor (transferred from suramar, regret it)
19:28.35deltronkergoth: I know you miss me on suramar :P
19:28.35NeoTronhttp://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=17 <-- and 17
19:28.39VerxionI bought strategic assault
19:28.40Verxion:)
19:28.47VerxionI bought a lot of your apps actually
19:28.59kergothdeltron, man.. i miss suramar in general, you and mjc and vixen and all the rest :\
19:29.18Verxionwell I am horde, 70 huntard
19:30.43deltrontroll shammy here
19:30.43VerxionMy issue is simply that while I am in a GOOD guild (well, from what I know of guilds anyway), they raid too early for me
19:30.44kergothVerxion, openembedded can now crosscompile over 4000 packages for any zaurus model or any of the other like 40 machines it can target now
19:30.44kergoth:)
19:30.44VerxionI need to find a guild that raids later in the day
19:30.44kergoththose 4k come out to like 12,000 ipks
19:30.44kergothhehe
19:30.44Verxionkergoth: my lord man
19:30.44NeoTronVerxion: would have been decent profit had not a majority been going to the original authors + vendor fees. heh
19:30.44deltroninstalling stuff on zaurus sl-5000d == pain in the ass
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19:30.49Verxiondeltron - I loved both my 5000d and my 5500
19:30.58kergoth1) plug network card in, 2) run package app, 3) hit update, 4) pick a package and hit install
19:31.09kergothi liked the clamshells more than the 5000d and 5500, but those were nice too
19:31.24Verxionat the time the clamshells came out I had moved on
19:31.27VerxionI have a treo 650 now
19:31.29deltroni think the 5000d was the last pda I bought
19:31.35Verxionum
19:31.43Verxionthe 5000d I thought was only to developers
19:31.46Verxionor did I remember that wrong?
19:31.49deltronyes
19:31.52deltronebay
19:31.53deltron:)
19:31.55Verxionahh, rofl
19:32.00kergoth5000d was the developer program yeah, 5500 was the public release of it
19:32.01deltronor maybe sa-mart
19:32.10deltronit had half the memory :(
19:32.19ilifinowned by goons
19:32.22Verxionany of you in a horde guild that raids SSC and/or Hyjal?
19:32.27kergothi still have those, and a 5600 with a 'not yet FCC approved' sticker on the back.. and 2-3 clamshells in the closet
19:32.42Verxionkergoth: I should buy one of your clamshells
19:32.45deltronVerxion: i hope to soon :P
19:32.50Verxionactually...
19:32.53Verxionnow that I think about it
19:32.57VerxionI know I sent you some hardware
19:33.01Verxionbut I can't remember now what it was
19:33.02Verxionrofl
19:33.12Verxionit was a CF card of SOME kind I believe
19:33.18Verxionmemory maybe?
19:33.33Verxiondeltron: hyjal or ssc?
19:33.56deltronssc
19:33.59Verxionahh
19:34.06deltronI gotta down nightbane then I'm keyed
19:34.26VerxionI need to find a server with a horde guild that is raiding SSC at MINIMUM and doing it semi late in the day
19:34.34VerxionI am west coast on a frigging east coast server
19:34.36Verxionwhich sucketh
19:34.46deltronI'm central on a west coast server
19:34.53deltronsuramar has a guild like that
19:34.54Verxionthat would be easier then
19:34.57deltronmidnightwow.com
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19:35.08StephmwVerxion: bah, I'm EU and used to be on an westcoast server ;-)
19:35.23VerxionStephmw: well can you recommend a good guild?  :)
19:35.49StephmwVerxion: none of the ones I was in... they all disolved. Oh, and avoid Stormrage too :-)
19:35.57deltronVerxion: midnight is a good guild, but I doubt they are taking in any apps
19:36.00Kinkx[2007/05/25 21:11:18-987-x2]: BigWigs_SC\Lurker.lua:145: attempt to call method 'NextDive' (a nil value)
19:36.06Verxiondeltron: ahh
19:36.31deltronhttp://midnightwow.com/ <-- them
19:36.45kbhcheck juggernaut on doomhammer
19:37.01kergotharathor is such a low pop server, the only guilds running anything are the kind that accept any jackass into it.  screw that
19:37.31deltronkergoth: i knew that would happen with arathor, same thing happened to rexxar
19:37.33Verxionyeah, that would suck
19:38.42Verxionhttp://www.juggernautguild.com/
19:38.43Verxionhrm
19:38.47Verxionthey are accepting hunters
19:40.29Verxionwell shit
19:40.34Verxionthey require 90% raid attendance
19:40.35Verxionlol
19:40.48Verxion"i.e. you should not apply before you go on your family vacation"
19:40.49Verxionlol
19:40.59a-stray-catwth, 90% raid attendance
19:41.08a-stray-catwhy would anyone be so hardcore at this game :<
19:41.16Saint-Nwow i'd totally fail
19:41.31Saint-N# of months in guild.. 6+ number of raids attended 2
19:41.47Verxionheh
19:41.47Cryectobviously you don't play the game to raid :)
19:41.51Saint-Nnot because we "didnt need shadow priests" but because "i didnt feel like loggin on"
19:41.55Verxionwell I wanna raid every week
19:42.03Verxionbut I generally can't raid more than 2 to 4 nights a week
19:42.05Saint-Nheh its kinna funny
19:42.12VerxionI am married with two kids, so um
19:42.12Saint-Nim part of the "special members"
19:42.16Verxion90% attendance ain't happening
19:42.26Saint-Nthe ones that dont have to help the guild we're just there cuz we're awesome!
19:42.30CryectPlenty of guilds you can raid 2 to 4 nights a week in
19:42.38Cryectheh don't need to look only at top end guilds :-p
19:42.40Saint-Nthat and i told them thier raid time sucks and wife > them ;P
19:42.41a-stray-catclearly you should get your wife and kids to play for you when you're busy
19:42.44alextlike my guild Oo
19:42.46a-stray-catto get that 90%
19:42.51Saint-Nhahaha
19:42.55Saint-Nthe schedule on the fridge
19:43.01Killmorehaha
19:43.09Saint-Nokay billy after homework your job is to raid kara for daddy
19:43.28Killmoreuse the kids only for farming..
19:43.32Saint-Nbe nice to the baby sitter me and mommy and jeffy will be at chuck e cheese
19:43.43Saint-Ntwo of our guild members dod that in the winter
19:43.49Verxionwell I don't mind joining a guild that is still running Kara, but only if they clear it all the way to Prince every week
19:44.01Saint-Nsince they cant mow lwans for money he gives them allowance based on how much they farm
19:44.16a-stray-catwe clear kz every tuesday :X
19:44.32a-stray-cative been skipping like every raid i could haha
19:44.37Saint-Nwhats the guild proigression site?
19:44.59Verxiona-stray-cat: what timezone is your server?
19:45.30Verxionor maybe this would be easier
19:45.35Verxionwhat time is it right now on your server?  :)
19:45.58a-stray-cat2:44pm
19:46.04VerxionI need to find a server that doesn't BEGIN raiding until about 7 hours from now each night
19:46.05deltroncentral time eh?
19:46.12a-stray-catouch
19:46.15Verxionyeah
19:46.17a-stray-catwe'd be starting in 3 hours
19:46.21a-stray-catif we had somethign to do today
19:46.22Verxionwell I have to wait till the kids are in bed
19:46.33deltronI'd like to be on a central time server
19:46.44deltronI'm on a west coast
19:46.45Verxionmaybe I need to look at EU servers or some crap
19:46.50CryectFind a PST guild Verxion
19:46.51deltron:P
19:46.56a-stray-catmaybe oceanic verx?
19:47.06Lyfewrong direction, verxion.. you need oceanic groups.
19:47.10Cryectnah a PST won't riad for 6 or 7 hours
19:47.12Verxionahh
19:47.13deltronmy guild starts at 6:30 central
19:47.24Cryecthe doesn't want oceanic unless he doesn't want to raid for 13 or 14 more hours >_>
19:47.24Verxiondeltron, which is in how many hours?
19:47.25Sarozhow does GetFunctionCPUUsage work
19:47.31a-stray-catmagic
19:47.36hyperChipmunkfairy dust
19:47.38CryectGetFunctionCPUUsage(function)
19:47.40deltronerr I mean 5:45 invites start, pacific
19:47.45deltronVerxion: pacific I meant
19:47.48a-stray-catmagic that feeds off the soulds of WoW subscribers
19:48.00a-stray-cat*souls
19:48.01a-stray-cat:<
19:48.07Cryectthen returns  counts, time I believe was the order
19:48.11Saint-Nyou'd need 10pm est
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19:48.27Saint-Nthe time that i keep trying to convince our raids to start since we're on a pst server
19:48.30Verxionok, so pacific time I think it is 12:48 right now
19:48.31Saint-Nand most of them are fine for 7pm
19:48.34Verxionis that right?
19:48.36Saint-Nbut noooOOOOOOooooo
19:48.37deltronVerxion: yep
19:48.41Cryectyeah PST is what you want
19:48.43Verxionthat is the same as where I live
19:48.45deltroncentral is 2:48
19:48.47Verxionwhich is Arizona
19:48.52Verxionwe have no daylight savings
19:48.54Stylpeckknight: there?
19:48.57Verxionso we are GMT-7 all year long
19:49.11Verxiondeltron: and what time do you guys raid?
19:49.13Saint-Nyou wanna raid 7pm pst 10pm est
19:49.29DeathraAny ace addon that automatically does things like runecloth rep turn ins?
19:49.43Saint-Nautomaton
19:50.01DeathraCheers
19:50.21deltronVerxion: http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=98696&TabID=845682 - that's supposed to be all pacific
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19:51.17Verxionahh, those all show raid start times the same as my current server
19:51.23Verxionbasically 5:30pm local time
19:51.34ff29hey
19:51.35Verxion(5:45pm for those events, but still...)
19:51.44ff29gots a question
19:51.52a-stray-catis there a way to get curse gaming to email me when someone comments on my addon?
19:52.26Sarozhttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/
19:52.27SarozLOL
19:52.29SarozFLAME WAR
19:54.12nevcairielhaha finally some other people realized what an idiot he is
19:54.39Saroztoo bad it looks like  "Ace2 vs. KTM"
19:54.53Birdemani[FH]do you need inflight load to run inflight?
19:55.09Sarozckknight, make a threatmeter just to make a point, gogo
19:55.24winkillerlol
19:56.03Antiarc|WorkGood lord KTM's a mess.
19:56.09Antiarc|Work...and that was completely unrelated to the above lines
19:56.13Antiarc|WorkI'm just digging through the code
19:56.22StephmwSaroz: butbut, if making a point was the idea he'd have written lots of mods, including unitframes...
19:56.32nevcairieli couldve told you that from two comments the author said
19:57.04StephmwSaroz: oh, my bad.
19:57.04nevcairielhis bruteforce polling is so evil
19:57.08StephmwSaroz: *grin*
19:59.17NeoTronAntiarc|Work: given his "polling" methods, I think it's not such a strange thing to assume
19:59.25Antiarc|WorkHeh, indeed.
19:59.29NeoTronanoter addon that WAS absolutely incredibly horribly written is CT_RaidAssist
19:59.32snurresomeone please just make an ace2 version so there is at least one other option
19:59.32Antiarc|WorkI'm working on a replacement framework for it.
19:59.40NeoTronI dunno if the new version is better but the first one - holy crap l2code
19:59.57Antiarc|WorkAnd I'm trolling through the code to see how various things were done, and some of it is  just mind-boggling.
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20:00.46Antiarc|WorkBut the good news is that I have the base framework done without comms, plus the rogue module, which includes feint/vanish and bloodfang/bonescythe mods, and it looks like my design should hold up well under changes.
20:01.06durcynAntiarc|Work: branches?
20:01.09nevcairielseriously, you should place that in a new mod
20:01.15Antiarc|WorkIt is a new mod
20:01.15nevcairieland not a replacement framework :D
20:01.48Antiarc|WorkI'm bascially writing a new threat meter, build on AceModuleCore, so the module cores are the bits I'm working on at the moment :)
20:02.13Antiarc|WorkGonna have a class module core that is then extended with per-class abilities and gear, and an NPC module core, so you can create modules for individual bosses.
20:02.24nevcairielsounds great :)
20:02.40Antiarc|Workdurcyn: No branches yet. All drycode, and I've probably got a bunch of stuff wrong :)
20:02.58Antiarc|WorkMy hope is to get the module cores and one or two modules per core into SVN by the end of the weekend, and then tap the rest of you all to help flesh it out
20:03.09Antiarc|WorkSince at that point, it's less design, and more just...data entry, I guess.
20:03.13KillmoreAntiarc|Work: your working on a complete brand new "ThreatMeter" addon ?!
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20:03.19Antiarc|WorkSi.
20:03.24Prophhanyone freeze up when they join a BG??
20:03.25Killmoreomg. !
20:03.34Antiarc|WorkI make no guarantees I'll finish it :P
20:03.36KillmoreAntiarc|Work: your the best :P
20:03.45Antiarc|WorkI'm mostly just dinking around right now to get a feel for what needs to be done
20:03.56Prophhanyone freeze up when they join a BG?? which mod is messing up? anyone know?
20:04.01nevcairielonce you get a solid base working
20:04.06nevcairielwe can all jump on your train ;)
20:04.09Antiarc|WorkThat's the hope
20:04.17Antiarc|WorkI really don't want to be sole owner of a threat mod
20:04.20KillmoreAntiarc|Work: your using some stuff from KLHThreatMeter or its all new ?
20:04.28Antiarc|WorkBecause by their nature, they require heavy overhauls with each patch
20:04.41nevcairielyeah
20:04.45NeoTronnice wow forum error: ???wow.web.forums.error500.message???
20:04.45nevcairielbut if the design is good
20:04.48nevcairielonly feeding a data file
20:04.49Antiarc|WorkKillmore: I'm looking through KTM for data values and to get an idea of the data I need to handle, but I'm rewriting this from the ground up.
20:04.51deltronI can help test
20:05.10Birdemani[FH]will everyone in the raid need to use it like ktm?
20:05.14Antiarc|WorkYeah.
20:05.22NeoTronBirdemani[FH]: no way around that really
20:05.26Antiarc|WorkDon't get too excited yet. I may get burnt out and/or distracted :P
20:05.30vodrinis EU behind on the hotfixes
20:05.34Antiarc|WorkBut I'm at least working on it.
20:05.37vodrinlurker coming up before adds down
20:05.49KillmoreAntiarc|Work: I think it will be easy for you to try beta tester, everyone here is tired of Kenco attitude :\
20:05.49Antiarc|WorkPlus, I have Sanity/SanityBags to fix and maintain
20:06.03KinkxLurker is bugged to hell, ranged only fight at the moment >_<
20:06.03NeoTronwhat is sanitybags if I might ask?
20:06.12Birdemani[FH]excuse the ignorance, but is sanity an addon to help manage inventory across mules?
20:06.17Antiarc|WorkNeoTron: It's a bag replacement mod that lets you define virtual bags with very flexibly filters
20:06.20Prophhanyone freeze up when they join a BG?? which mod is messing up? anyone know?
20:06.23Antiarc|WorkBirdemani[FH]: Yes, that's exactly what it is :)
20:06.25Antiarc|Work~sanity
20:06.40purlfrom memory, sanity is something that most developers lack
20:06.40Antiarc|WorkPuuuuurrrl
20:06.40NeoTronis it possible to use it as a "one bag" addon, i.e like I do with baggins?
20:06.47Antiarc|WorkBah.
20:06.48Antiarc|Workhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Sanity_Inventory
20:06.51NeoTronthanks
20:07.00NeoTronnot always a wiki page yua know
20:07.14Antiarc|Workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/sanitybags/sanitybags5.jpg <-- screenz
20:07.25Antiarc|Workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/sanitybags/sanitybags3.jpg <-- filter overview
20:07.43Birdemani[FH]antirarc, any chance on integrating trade skills into it?
20:07.49Antiarc|WorkBirdemani[FH]: Like what?
20:07.59NeoTronI guess the main question is, can you have multiple categories per frame ir is it one frame per "filter"?
20:08.01durcyntrade skills generate threat?
20:08.03durcynoh, that.
20:08.06StylpeFor me, Sanity hasn't been reliable enough to use as my only bag addon, but I use is as a sort of "account-bag"
20:08.07Birdemani[FH]i was using that advanced trade window mod
20:08.14Antiarc|WorkStylpe: I do the same thing :)
20:08.15Birdemani[FH]hold on phone
20:08.21StylpeAnyone in-game atm that can test a chat command for me?
20:08.24Antiarc|WorkI use it for finding things, not as a replacement
20:08.33Birdemani[FH]back
20:08.37Antiarc|WorkNeoTron: Yes, you can have multiple filters per frame
20:08.41Antiarc|WorkComma delimited
20:08.43Saint-Ni think i'll have fry's human horn jerked
20:08.46Saint-Nit's used to it
20:08.49Saint-NwoooOOOOOooooo
20:09.04Birdemani[FH]so, was using it to hit an item and queue it up, so when i went back to my bags or the AH i could see what I had for that item...on alts, on main, in bank, etc
20:09.20StylpePretty please?
20:09.48Antiarc|WorkMmm. Sanity's tooltip hooking should tell you how many of each reagent you and your alts have when you hover over them in the tradeskill frame.
20:09.51StylpeThe one who helps me gets to prove that ckknight is wrong :D
20:10.03Birdemani[FH]k, ill check it out then antiarc
20:10.14Antiarc|WorkNote that the tooltip counts are currently broken :P
20:10.21Antiarc|WorkI borked them with a commit a couple nights ago
20:10.27Antiarc|WorkHaven't tracked it down yet
20:10.33Antiarc|WorkBut just keep updating :)
20:10.35StylpeSee, that's why I don't use it as my only bag addon =P
20:11.00Antiarc|Work*grin*
20:11.09StylpeI love every part of Sanity, except the bugs and instability ^_^
20:11.10Antiarc|WorkI wish I had more time to work on WoW mods
20:11.17Antiarc|WorkYeah, me too. Heheh.
20:11.30Antiarc|WorkIt should be a -lot- more stable once I get the last crop of bugs ironed out
20:11.49Saint-Ndidnt ms claim that too?
20:11.51Antiarc|WorkI rewrote...well, basically the entire inventory scanning system, so it's faster, less memory hungry, and more accurate.
20:11.58Antiarc|WorkEvery developer claims that ;)
20:12.17Birdemani[FH]btw, is there any reason why on one bag that my alts bank inventory hasnt updated in a while?
20:12.28StylpeOoh btw, who's developing PT3bar, and is that person here?
20:12.49Stylpeyacoob: Get a PS2 =P
20:13.02yacoobit's over there
20:13.07Saint-Na modded ps2
20:13.13yacoob...which reminds me there's still some okami fun to shag
20:13.21StylpeSee!
20:13.25Antiarc|Work-- This is designed for compatability with older versions. Say there is a new boss mod to reset when a boss does a yell. If only half the raid has the new version of KTM, they will reset themselves but the rest of the raid won't, which would suck. Therefore we'll forge a "shazzrahgate" even whenever there is a boss reset. And they will just think Oh, Shazzrah has blinked, better reset!
20:13.47GagorianStylpe: Not currently here
20:13.59Stylpebum
20:14.05GagorianWhat's it about?
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20:14.46StylpeWell, I know what it says about "no more features" and stuff, but I'd really like it to compress the buttons like AutoBar does
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20:15.34GagorianShould be pretty simple to do
20:15.44Stylpe(so the visible buttons are always next to eachother)
20:16.18StylpeI had a quick peek at the code myself, but it's too complex to add just like that
20:16.31durcynAntiarc|Work: is that actually a real comment in ktm?
20:16.35Antiarc|WorkYes.
20:16.41durcynshudder.
20:16.41Antiarc|WorkKTM_Bosses.lua
20:17.36deltronwow that sounds professional
20:17.49a-stray-cati have worse comments in my files
20:18.00a-stray-cat-- this seems to work, i forgot how it works, but i wrote it so it should work
20:18.05a-stray-cati found that in a previous version of my own mod
20:18.06a-stray-cathaha
20:18.24cotangentI like /hack shouldn't have to be this way but it is
20:18.27CryectI've got some comments like that where its like I don't know why this works but it does and I'm too tired to figure out why
20:18.29a-stray-catit was in relation to a magic number, because i was trying to figure out how it worked again
20:18.49Antiarc|Workif (me.action.ishit == false)
20:18.50Antiarc|WorkHahahahaha
20:18.56Antiarc|WorkI SO misread that the first 3 times.
20:19.01hyperChipmunklol
20:19.11cotangenthaha same
20:19.14Antiarc|WorkNow, taking a dump in the bosses lair causes 2500 threat...
20:19.26CryectAntiarc|Work: don't you love the name of the global variable KTM uses!
20:19.28cotangentMOM! bathroom!!
20:19.36Antiarc|WorkYes. -_-
20:19.42Cryectmymod or whtaever :-p
20:20.14Antiarc|Workthismod
20:20.14hyperChipmunkugh
20:20.19Antiarc|WorkIt uses "thismod".
20:20.22Cryectoh thismod
20:20.31hyperChipmunkdo we have something in the works to replace that steam pile?
20:20.33Antiarc|Work"me" and "mod" are locals, thankfully.
20:20.37Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: Working on it. :)
20:20.41CryectThinking up a variable name Like KTM was real hard
20:21.06hyperChipmunkwhat are you calling it?
20:21.06Antiarc|WorkWell, Cryect, KTM is obivously the most important mod you can run
20:21.09cotangentI blame MS for all variables starting with my
20:21.21Antiarc|WorkSo it should get all the CPU cycles and variable namespaces it wants
20:21.26Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: Omen, at the moment.
20:21.39hyperChipmunkheh
20:21.40Antiarc|WorkI just hit a thesaurus and picked the first cool-sounding synonym for "threat" :)
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20:21.57Cryectsounds like where half my mod names come from
20:21.59cotangentadd a hidden "it's all for you Damion"
20:22.02Antiarc|WorkThough someone suggested Sanity Threat Keylogger
20:22.22hyperChipmunklol
20:22.34Icerothcan i lcok sanity bags together?
20:22.42Iceroth*lock
20:22.53Icerothas in, move the main bag, rest move with it
20:22.57Antiarc|WorkYes
20:23.05Antiarc|WorkThey'll automatically snap together when you move them close to one another
20:23.07hyperChipmunki'd just go with Threatened or something, so nobody has any doubt what it is
20:23.17Antiarc|WorkThat's boring, though
20:23.18Icerothhmm, i wonder what i did wrong
20:23.20KillmoreAntiarc|Work: what will be the name of your addon ? :P
20:23.45Cryect<Antiarc|Work> hyperChipmunk: Omen, at the moment.
20:23.49Cryectto Killmore
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20:23.59VerxionCall it AggroKillsPriests
20:24.00hyperChipmunkomen's good too
20:24.11hyperChipmunkexcept it makes me think of the lunar festival boss
20:24.33Antiarc|WorkMaybe I'll call it MageDeathPredictor
20:24.41Killmorehahaha
20:24.46VerxionI like that!
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20:25.27Antiarc|WorkTOC: Tells you when your mages are about to evaporate into a fine red mist and your MT starts swearing on vent
20:25.37StylpeDPSWhoreBlamer
20:25.49VerxionAntiarc, the initials need to be JSL
20:25.56Verxionso work out what they stand for
20:26.03Antiarc|WorkJust Stab Less
20:26.13VerxionPERFECT
20:26.23Verxionso make it JUST STAB LESS - JSL, one step ahead of KTM
20:26.23Verxion:)
20:26.31Antiarc|WorkHeh
20:26.48Verxionyou get it right?
20:26.49Antiarc|WorkOr maybe Just Suck Less
20:26.51Antiarc|WorkYeah :)(
20:26.56VerxionJ before K, S before T, L before M
20:26.57Verxion:)
20:27.03hyperChipmunk"stop poking meee!"
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20:28.00deltronwhat you need doing?
20:29.50deltronhttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/ <-- lol KLHThreatMeter in new downloads points to the autohider fix
20:31.33Tupsihow can i reset violence?
20:31.35winkillerbah, where's nymbia when you need
20:31.38Tupsimenu has nothing
20:31.50Tupsiand there doesnt seem any slash commands
20:32.46durcynTupsi: Violation?  click it.
20:33.09Tupsithere is nothing in the menu
20:33.16durcynno.. click it.
20:33.30durcynas in the tooltip that says "CLICK TO RESET"
20:34.01Tupsihmm, i dont get a tooltip when hovering over the window
20:34.24Tupsiand i dont have a fubar entry
20:34.58Stephmw'Detach toolkit'?
20:35.02Stephmw*tooltip
20:35.32Tupsiohh shit
20:35.40Tupsisorry guys, i am an idio
20:35.41Tupsit
20:37.01kergoth~botmail for nymbia: if you move the UpdateAddOn() bits in SupplyAndDemand from OnIntitialize to OnEnable, Quartz loads the first time you login, if you dont, it doesnt.  no doubt Quartz isnt seen as LoD by IsAddOnLoadOnDemand() until after SupplyAndDemand successfully loads all the way.. since that's what LoadManagers was documented as doing
20:38.14Saint-Nholy crap
20:38.25Saint-Nso finally go through with the wow updates
20:38.43Saint-Ncrossover runs wow just as smooth as it runs on my win32 box
20:38.55Saint-Nin full screen
20:39.59Saint-Nand the best part is that its only got 512mb ddr2 in it right now
20:39.59Saint-Nso thats kind of spooky
20:40.25OminousKergoth: you sir are a careless person sir... :)
20:40.43kergoth?
20:40.43CIA-2203kergoth * r36893 10SupplyAndDemand/Core.lua: SupplyAndDemand: fix usage of SupplyAndDemand in LoadManagers (addons using LoadManagers aren't seen as LoD until the load manager is successfully loaded, so moved bits from OnInitialize to OnEnable).
20:40.43kergoththere, all better
20:41.01Ominouskergoth: you missed a , when you added pet
20:41.01Saint-N~botmail for kergoth: to whom it make concern, you smell like farts... that is all
20:42.29Saint-Nthanks purl
20:42.57kergothOminous, doh, sorry about that.  thought i fixed that
20:43.43Ominouskergoth: you have no idea how many requests i got to fix that in the time between i logged in to irc, the time it took to update my end and then the time it took to update on files
20:44.02Saint-Ni'm gonna guess 18?
20:44.04VerxionOminous: three?
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20:44.05Saint-Nam i close?
20:44.06kergothlol, oops.  wasnt i around? i'd have been glad to fix it to save you the trouble
20:44.25Ominouskergoth: wasent trouble :P,
20:44.25Verxionkergoth: where ya working?
20:44.30Verxionthese days I mean
20:44.57NeeblerOminous, any chance of making PoisonMenu a fubar plugin?
20:45.01kergothphoenix, working for a subcontractor on a government project
20:45.04OminousNeebler: npo
20:45.06OminousNeebler: cant be done
20:45.20Verxionkergoth: anything you can talk about?
20:47.31NightHawkTheSanehahah.. http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/010311.html
20:48.24kergothVerxion, for a while i was working on the land warrior project, wearable computers for army soldiers
20:48.35Verxionahh, cool
20:48.42VerxionI am still working on the longbow
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20:49.20GagorianStylpe:
20:49.26GagorianI added compress feature to my local pt3bar
20:49.43GagorianI'll let nymbia have a look at it once he's here to see if he approves
20:50.13kergothcompress?
20:51.19Josh_Borkecompass?
20:51.39StylpeSchwing!
20:51.42Josh_Borkeand a miss
20:51.50StylpeSo that the visible buttons stick together
20:52.00StylpeSchwing is my new yay
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20:53.12durcynStylpe: welcome to 1997?
20:53.16Birdemani[FH]nihilim got kael down
20:54.54Tupsiis classtimer disabling itself in raid?
20:54.58Josh_Borkewell shit, good for them
20:55.08Tupsiwas working fine the whole evening alone, now in raid the bars are gone
20:55.48StylpeOoh, anyone here using Brian Kopp's guide, pirated or otherwise? I made an addon where you can copy in the guide text and it will highlight quests by status and make coordinates clickable to add waypoints
20:56.41deltronlol someone said they were thinking about that
20:56.48deltronbut make it an in-game guide
20:57.16Stylpehuh.
20:57.34StylpeAs in, a new guide not based on Kopp's?
20:57.34deltrondo something like that guy's guide
20:57.41deltronbut do it in-game with waypoints
20:57.47deltronI don't think it went anywhere
20:59.21StylpeMaking a guide to WoW would be a lot of work
20:59.33deltronyay I fixed my foobar2000 crashing issue
20:59.35deltronI bet
20:59.58harldephindamn. the patch made fishin the nuts -.-
21:00.11Saint-Nyou commented out #DEFINE N00b = TRUE?
21:00.12deltronI assume that is good
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21:00.14harldephinevery second time i catch something there's not enough time to click it
21:00.16KeiasFishing worse than before?
21:00.20Keiasouch
21:00.26deltronlol
21:01.17cotangentI found fishing lots faster
21:02.20harldephinwell, at least every third or fourth time. i've not been to the real fishing grounds yet though
21:02.21harldephinit's decreased from 30 to 20 seconds, yes
21:06.45harldephinif i click a moment 'too soon', counting that if i didn't catch anything yet i might catch it within the last second, it may work most of those times
21:08.08deltronhmm latency eh
21:08.22harldephinyea
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21:09.13harldephinbut my latency is at about 40-60 ms.. so.. dunno, but i don't think i'm able to click _that_ fast to having it make any big difference
21:10.38harldephinand maybe i'm just unlucky tonight
21:10.39CIA-2203antiarc * r36894 10KTMCPUManager/KTMCPUManager.lua: KTMCPUManager: Fix to prevent an error that crops up when a raid member engages an enemy beyond your render range (thanks Daemona!)
21:11.33Daemonadamn dont highlight me !
21:11.33Daemona;)
21:11.34CIA-2203pettigrow * r36895 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: BigWigs: Magtheridon: frFR Update
21:14.11durcyni'm just waiting for the chinese to start selling fishing services
21:14.21durcyn$50 0-375, you buy?
21:14.36SHIFT_nismoyou buy now
21:15.05harldephinlol
21:15.12Daemonatoday i had a gold ad in shattrath /2
21:15.20StephmwI'm surprised blizz hasn't made fish and cooked fish have an expiration
21:15.26Stephmwimagine the farming potentials!
21:15.26snurrektmcpumanager? o.O
21:15.34DaemonaCheapest Gold - 2.600 euro / 100g
21:16.07deltronthat's cheap gold!
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21:16.45harldephini've never seen 0.x cent anywhere in my pockets
21:17.40Stephmwyay, another Brit :)
21:18.07deltronanyone know if there's a cart savedvariable with the new ore locations
21:19.43esran;wibbles
21:19.51esranoops
21:20.15esranthat's better
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21:24.03NightHawkTheSanefucking children. ><
21:25.56yacoobwhat a nice feature they added to guildwars
21:26.20durcynNightHawkTheSane: that's illegal!
21:26.21yacoob"help" window, which opens up a list of your current quests, skills, missions & stuff, each of them being link to official wiki
21:26.29yacoob*very* good thing.
21:26.34yacooblearn, Blizzard!
21:26.53Antiarc|WorkLua doesn't have anything like table.push/pop/shift, does it?
21:27.22NightHawkTheSaneyacoob: wait, so you open up this 'help' window, click on a quest, and you see a wiki entry for it, which probably has hints, tips, and solutions?
21:27.50yacoobNightHawkTheSane, external browser is called with this wiki article, yes
21:28.00NightHawkTheSaneyacoob: huh. interesting. also very very stupid.
21:28.09nevcairielAntiarc|Work: only insert and remove, guess you could build them with that tho ;)
21:28.11yacoobhow come?
21:28.19Antiarc|WorkBleh. Was hoping for C implementations.
21:28.19sdoublehaha, not like there iaren't hints, tips, and solutions available for wow
21:28.26NightHawkTheSaneit's one thing to allow third party resources, but it's another to provide all the answers to your own questions.
21:28.43NightHawkTheSanethey might as well just skip the whole quest process and have npcs just hand you rewards.
21:28.45yacoobsdouble, I'm talking about integration of this into client.
21:29.01sdoubleyacoob, I'm well aware of what you're talking about.  I'm agreeing with you.
21:29.12yacoobNightHawkTheSane, well. Noone forces people to use it.
21:29.18sdoubleif the user doesn't want help, they won't have to click the help button
21:29.30yacoobexactly the way it is with wow
21:29.33nevcairielAntiarc|Work: remove works pretty much like pop .. and insert like push .. if you set the index right
21:29.36NightHawkTheSaneyacoob: not the point. It's an explicit admission that they don't expect you to be able to do it by yourself.
21:29.49yacoobNightHawkTheSane, 8)
21:29.49NightHawkTheSaneIt's like handing out the answers to a test.
21:30.00Antiarc|WorkYeah, that's true. Shift's the one I really want, but I guess I can do that with tremove
21:30.05yacoobi do not share your point, but well, it's yours 8)
21:31.08NightHawkTheSaneDon't get me wrong, I think fansites for that are great, but I -really- don't think it should be any way related to the game client itself.
21:31.11sdoubleboth points are understood, but I think it would be better for blizzard to provide these hints/tips/solutions instead of a 3rd party with gold ads all over the place
21:31.57yacoob...what he says :)
21:31.58NightHawkTheSanesdouble: gold adds are a non sequitur, those will happen regardless, making certain websites official won't change that.
21:32.14yacoobwhat's even more funny, the official guildwars wiki is inferior to the unofficial
21:32.33sdoublecorrect, but having an official website will make it so less people will be going to the unofficial sites with the gold ads
21:32.38sylvanaarsoz anyone know anything about this prat breaks ,,, <bongos, pitbull> stuff
21:33.00NightHawkTheSanesylvanaar: i'm using prat with bongos just fine right now.
21:33.02yacoobwhat's pretty good, is that you get also links for the guilds - yours and your alliance
21:33.03Sarozwhat's best, pairs or ipairs?
21:33.07NimbleRabitNightHawkTheSane: I happen to agree, 3rd party sites are great but no one should be officially integrated into the game
21:33.08sdoubleand with it being a wiki page, it would be done buy users anyway
21:33.14yacoobso it's just one click away from creating nice guildpages
21:33.16*** join/#wowace Viserion (n=Viserion@dial-69-55-137-179.sofnet.net)
21:33.19sylvanaarhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6278.0;topicseen
21:33.20Antiarc|WorkSaroz: Are you itering a hash (pairs) or a list (ipairs)?
21:33.27esranLightHead pulls wowhead comments into the game
21:33.40NightHawkTheSanelitehead's also an unofficial user creation :P
21:34.00yacoobjust a question, do you also ditch any other things that make your life easier? :D
21:34.01NimbleRabitYeah, that's how it should be
21:34.12SarozAntiarc, since I don't care about the order, I guess pairs is best?
21:34.16NightHawkTheSaneyacoob: if it violates my principles, yes.
21:34.20NimbleRabitNo I don't
21:34.25yacoobNightHawkTheSane, lovely :D
21:34.34NimbleRabitI just don't think a company should officially support one of the sites, it should stay 3rd party
21:35.09sdoubleit wouldn't be "one of the sites" but in fact their own company run wiki page.
21:35.15NimbleRabitsylvanaar: "enter combat, pitbull target frames don't update when switching targets."  This does not happen for me, at all.
21:35.21yacoobNimbleRabit, it's not "one of those sites". It's "their site"
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21:35.45Ominousis wow-europe down
21:35.53yacooband yes, I'd be even more happy if they support one of those sites, namely gw.gamewikis.org instead of their own wiki.guildwars.com
21:35.55sdoubleblizzard sells a wow strategy guide, what's the difference?
21:36.41NightHawkTheSaneI havn't seen the strategy guide, but I don't agree with a company providing any official hints to things like quests.
21:36.54NimbleRabitI would just rather the tips, tricks, or w/e should be left 3rd party not officially given out by the company
21:37.03NimbleRabiterr, take out should
21:37.07NightHawkTheSanea strategy guide for classes, describing and debating talents, or similar, is all good, but its the "giving out the answers" that irks me.
21:37.08Antiarc|WorkSaroz: That should work fine
21:37.10yacoob<flame>yeah, because wow is just easy</>
21:37.13yacoob*hide*
21:37.36NimbleRabitumm
21:37.56yacoobactually, I like it as it is. Well, liked, before farming bore me down.
21:38.15NimbleRabitdon't turn this into a debate about WoW =/
21:38.22sdoubleI'd just be happy with a built in browser.
21:38.26yacoobmake it more "real" (like xp penalty on death, or item loss) and I wouldn't even start playing :)
21:38.40yacoobok, shutting myself up right away :)
21:38.49XuerianMake it like nwn. XP penalty on death, gold loss, and the ability to loose levels
21:39.01yacoobsdouble, eve has such thing, but the rendering is quite subpar
21:39.20NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: if they did that, i would -never- even consider a pvp realm
21:39.22yacoobon the other hand, embedding gecko in a game would boost the ram apetite even more
21:39.41Xueriansdouble: Run windowed/maximized mode, and use firefox or the tiny gecko browser.
21:39.47yacoobNightHawkTheSane, I bet it was concious decision, to give more "fun" to people
21:39.50NightHawkTheSaneThe amount of 12 year olds sitting in the noob zones just griefing people so they can't gain levels would be idiotic. I mean, more than it is already.
21:40.04NightHawkTheSaneyacoob: i'm sure it was.
21:40.07sdoubleyeah, I know how to do it now.  I run dual monitors anyway.  I just think it would be a nice feature.
21:40.33XuerianNightHawkTheSane: Pvp works fine in nwn. The most common way of doing it nowadays is Subdual mode, which means you are knocked out for two minutes when you're killed by another player, you don't loose gold, and you don't loose xp. For mobs, it's like normal
21:41.05NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: nwn isn't wow though. ;)
21:41.26sdoubledidn't wow originally have an xp loss on death?
21:41.39XuerianNo, but wow doesn't have any penalties (aside from durability, a minor gold penalty in eventuality), and I thought this was hypothetical :p
21:41.44Xuerianno to NightHawkTheSane.
21:41.59Verxionthere should be a website
21:42.03Verxionthat shows guilds
21:42.08Verxionwhat bosses they have downed
21:42.10Verxionhow often
21:42.12Verxionetc.
21:42.19NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: well, im just saying, given the overall design of wow, to implement something like nwn, you'd need major ground-up changes to the overall gameplay
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21:42.29Verxionthis is something that Blizzard should provide
21:42.36XuerianNightHawkTheSane: Oh, of course. That's why my statement was completely hypothetical
21:42.55sdoubleI mentioned that the other day Verxion, because I'm curious how many times Thrall has died.
21:43.16yacoobVerxion, they have all the data, it's just that they don't care :)
21:43.16Verxionyeah, you aren't the only one
21:43.17NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: *nod* Just saying it's not evee remotely feasible. :)
21:43.21Ominousis wow-europe down?
21:43.23Verxionyacoob: this I know.
21:43.28yacooblook at how long it took till they made armory
21:43.36Verxionwell true enough
21:43.37XuerianFair enough
21:43.38Verxionbut armory kicks ass
21:43.45yacoob(and is slow :)
21:43.46sdoubleminus ajax
21:43.58NightHawkTheSanearmory's probably only slow because their front end design is crap
21:44.08sdoubleit's what it's built on that's slow
21:44.19nymbiakergoth: hrm, good catch
21:44.25sdoubleshould have stuck with something simple, like php/asp
21:44.36yacoobsometimes I look at some Blizz actions/decisions, then at my very own company, and I laugh at both, for some actions are made out of sheer incapability to do anything right :)
21:44.37NightHawkTheSanesdouble: agreed.
21:44.43sdoublerails/ajax/coldfusion is just slow
21:44.50yacoobsdouble, nah
21:44.51sdoublemay as well have made a java applet
21:45.05sdoubleit's slow with a large load
21:45.13yacoobajax isn't "slow by design"
21:45.14sdoublephp/asp will destroy them all
21:45.21kergothnymbia, committed the change to s&d, should be fine now
21:45.30NightHawkTheSanesdouble: eh, i wouldn't go that far
21:45.30nymbiakergoth: ok, cool
21:45.34yacoobit's only bad if used wrong
21:45.38dottedNightHawkTheSane if it slow rendering, and you use FF change your useragent to opera
21:45.52yacoob(wonder if someone ran a summary on effect of ajax on disabled web users)
21:46.02CIA-2203nymbia * r36896 10Quartz/Quartz.lua:
21:46.02CIA-22Quartz:
21:46.02CIA-22- use IsLogged in, dumbass.
21:46.02CIA-22~whaleslap nymbia
21:46.16purlACTION beats nymbia upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
21:46.16NightHawkTheSanethere's plenty of ways to implement rails or ajax that arn't slow. It's their specific design that's just poor and overloads the client side processing.
21:46.16NightHawkTheSanedotted: using safari on a mac :P
21:46.23dottedwhen firefox goes to armory its feeded with xml/xslt while opera is getting normal html
21:46.46dotteddunno about safari
21:46.49*** part/#wowace ruinna (n=chatzill@c-71-206-230-50.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
21:47.02yacoobgolden KISS rule :D
21:47.08dottedcheck the source :D
21:47.08sdoubleI did a simple test of printing all fields in a huge mysql database with rails and php, php tore it up
21:47.25sdoubleif I was at work, I would run it again to show the time difference
21:47.26yacoobsdouble, it only shows that you're more proficient with php 8)
21:47.59*** join/#wowace zoktar (i=zoktar@c83-249-26-84.bredband.comhem.se)
21:48.07sdoublethat only took like 10 lines of code to do, combined.
21:48.08sdoubleheh
21:48.15Icerothdidn't rails have some funky limitations like 1 thread per server instance?
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21:50.43rubikyou'd think wowhead.com had every single kind of item filter known to mankind from that huge list... but it's lacking some pretty useful ones
21:50.58sylvanaaris it possible that textures shared via sharedmedialib could cause frame taint
21:51.15Cryectumm no?
21:51.19Verxiondid you just say taint?
21:51.23rubiklike, i'd like to search for quest rewarded gear (check; can be done) but for a particular zone.
21:51.44SarozUhh kael'thas down
21:52.14sylvanaaryes
21:52.14sylvanaarwhy wouldnt they
21:53.20rubikno wowhead dev/admin person hangs out in here, right?
21:55.13sylvanaari think that im going to disembed prat and distribute it that way
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21:55.57zoktarwhat do u need for WAU to work only 2.0 .net ?
21:56.03zoktarmy m8s havin problems ;P
21:56.11CryectI think its only the 1.2 framework
21:56.15zoktarowh
21:56.16zoktarthats why
21:56.48bernie_Hi All
21:56.50Icerothshouldn't be much more than compliling it with 2.0 to get it working though
21:57.00zoktar1.1 or 1.2? cant find 1.2
21:57.06sylvanaar2.0
21:57.20Iceroth.net 1.2 doesn't exist :)
21:57.21zoktarhe has 2.0 and 3.0
21:57.36Cryecthehe for some reason I'm confused :-p
21:57.40sdouble3?
21:57.41Gagoriannymbia
21:57.50Cryectyeah there is a 3 just released recently
21:57.57sdoubleis it beta though?
21:57.59Iceroth3 is the windows presentation foundation stuff etc
21:58.11Cryect1.1 was what I was thinking of btw
21:58.13bernie_I´ve some problems with wuu, doesn´t see any addon anymore.....had work´ed until friday ...
21:58.25Gagoriannymbia: I added a compression feature to PT3Bar, testing a bit still but would you consider adding it?
21:58.37Keiasbernie_, what version are you using?
21:58.40CryectI swear MS wanted  to relive the days of finding the right vbrun stuff with .NET framework
21:58.47vodrinwhats the raid warning frame name ?
21:58.52vodrin<PROTECTED>
21:58.52bernie_It´s 1.4.305
21:58.57sdoubleyeah, I can't stand .net
21:59.20KeiasAnd do you mean WAU?
21:59.25Keiasor is WUU something else?
21:59.48CryectIts the Wowace Updater Updater!
21:59.50Cryect:-p
21:59.50bernie_No, it´s wuu : wow UI Updater
21:59.58KeiasThen that, I dunno.
22:00.07KeiasI always had errors with that. :(
22:00.46bernie_no, until tuesday it worked realy fine ....
22:01.39KeiasProbably has something to do with WAU 1.7 being disabled
22:01.51NimbleRabitbernie_: you can't install addons from WoWace with WUU anymore
22:01.59Antiarc|WorkAs I'm writing this...
22:02.22bernie_Nimble: Yes, I don´t see any addon...
22:02.24Antiarc|Work...can anyone think of a scenario in which you'd want to track threat levels on multiple targets at once, or is the all targets/one specific target design good enough?
22:02.41CryectThaddius Phase 1
22:02.41NimbleRabitbernie_: yes because it won't work anymore until the author of WUU updates
22:02.46CryectBut...
22:02.58Cryectits not often
22:03.18CryectCan you think of a good way to count how many mobs are engaged?
22:03.22IcerothAntiarc|Work, when can i expect sanityBank?)
22:03.37bernie_Nimble: Ah, ok, so i´ve to wait then.
22:03.40Antiarc|WorkCryect: No, not really, but distinguishing by name should be important most any place it matters
22:03.48Antiarc|WorkSince if you have multiples of a single mob, they're likely trash and not too dangerous
22:04.09CryectSometimes for bosses matters
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22:04.24Cryectbut oftentimes if you are attacking multiple mobs not normally aggro sensitive
22:04.32Antiarc|WorkYeah, that's what I'm thinking.
22:04.42Antiarc|WorkI'll probably just stick to general/single mob modes.
22:05.01Arrowmasteronly way i could think of that would be remotely accurate for detecting number of mobs in combat would be nameplates
22:05.11CryectIts really limited cases when it would be more helpful
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22:05.51Stephmwdid something change on svn? I'm getting PROPFIND related errors
22:06.33NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: *blink* wait, what are you writing?
22:06.52Antiarc|WorkI'm dinking around with the beginnings of a threat meter.
22:07.06renchapStephmw: with svn.wowace.com?
22:07.25Antiarc|WorkI was thinking it's be really, really cool to have multiple threat-over-time graphs for multiple mobs, but it'd probably be info overload.
22:07.32Iceroth<m:human-readable errcode="160004">
22:07.33IcerothMissing node-id in node-rev
22:07.34Iceroth</m:human-readable>
22:07.41zoktaranyone had problems with WAU + using a router?
22:07.44Stephmwrenchap: yeah
22:07.44NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: neat.
22:07.45Iceroththat's what i'm getting from svn.wowace.com/root/trunk
22:08.01IcerothAntiarc|Work, KISS :)
22:08.04Stephmwrenchap: what Iceroth says
22:08.08Antiarc|WorkYeah, yeah. :P
22:08.39renchapKaelten: ping
22:08.50Kaeltenno go away!
22:09.01Kaeltenwhats up?
22:09.10renchapFailed to get lock on destination repos, currently held by 'wowace.com:c19db073-4d31-0410-9f8c-ffce68e47944'
22:09.15renchapwhen syncing
22:09.22ArrowmasterAntiarc|Work: if you can get a good modular framework down i would be willing to help with specific abilitys, i was thinking of doing something too but i dont have any experience with modular frameworks
22:09.23Icerothactually, the _only_ relevant info is "how much more thread can i generate before i pull agro"
22:09.36Antiarc|WorkArrowmaster: That's the idea.
22:10.02Icerotheverything else is bonus
22:10.03StephmwIceroth: not just how much... but how soon at this rate
22:10.05bernie_thx bye.
22:10.07Antiarc|WorkCore framework + modules for each class, and modules for each encounter that requires specific threat calculations
22:10.17NightHawkTheSaneIceroth: well, from a limited perspective, yeah, though as an officer/raid leader it might be nice to see who else is in the raid is generating more threat than they should
22:10.24NightHawkTheSaneor less, for tanks.
22:10.45Gagoriannymbia: Ping
22:11.36nymbiaGagorian: pong
22:11.42DiaoAntiarc
22:11.51Antiarc|WorkYo
22:11.52Diaoon fights like domo if they still have those
22:11.59Diaoit'd be nice to know when people are dpsing a certain add
22:12.03Diaowho has most threat on that add :P
22:12.07Antiarc|WorkThat's doable with PerfectTargets though
22:12.07Diaobut i think that's a bit complicated
22:12.10Antiarc|WorkNot the threat, but the DPSing
22:12.22NimbleRabitsomething is wrong withmy quartz
22:12.26Antiarc|WorkIf you do Domo right, then by the time you're done with the first add, the tanks have solid aggro on the others
22:12.28Diaoor like uh
22:12.31Diaofirst boss in ssc?
22:12.39Diaowhere the adds spawn and you have to pick them up with multiple tanks
22:12.42Diaoin the transitions
22:12.50Antiarc|WorkThat's the kind of place I could see it being useful, yes.
22:12.58Gagoriannymbia: I added a compression feature to my local PT3Bar, would you consider adding it?
22:13.00CIA-2203sylvanaar * r36897 10Prat/libs/: Prat: Removed embedded waterfall (again)
22:14.39nymbiaGagorian: hell yes
22:14.52nymbiaGagorian: commit it! ;)
22:15.04Gagoriankek :>
22:15.06Arrowmasternymbia, ive been having some issues with quartz
22:15.23Arrowmasterwas getting a font error earlyer
22:15.25GagorianI still haven't solved the weird resize issue.. but if compression is on it doesn't bug it seems :P
22:15.27CIA-2203daviesh * r36898 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2.lua:
22:15.27CIA-22Babble-2.2:
22:15.28CIA-22- Updated Spanish for BabbleFaction as missing translations were causing errors in my mod
22:15.30nymbiahrm
22:15.44nymbiaArrowmaster: got the error handy?
22:15.56NeoTronso rumor has it you can AoE down the adds on Hydross post-patch. Is that true?
22:16.01Arrowmasternot right now but i can renable quartz
22:16.38*** join/#wowace Nimloth (n=nimlothc@69.109.103.158)
22:16.52Kaeltenrenchap: I get a 301 when I try to fix it
22:17.05renchapuse svn.wowace.renchap.com
22:17.24renchapwowace.renchap.com is now served by lighttpd
22:17.41CIA-2203sylvanaar * r36899 10Prat/libs/Prat_libs.toc: Prat: Create toc file for the embedded libs.
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22:18.02Kaeltensvn.wowace.renchap.com/wowace?
22:18.12renchapyup
22:18.22KaeltenI'm getting an error
22:18.44renchapwhat is the error ?
22:19.02NimbleRabitnymbia: I'm having an odd problem with quartz.  It doesn't seem to be loading when I login.  If I type /quartz there is no command by that name and MCP shows the "Shift-Click to Load" next to it
22:19.12kenlyricherb or mine, herb or mine?
22:19.37NightHawkTheSaneim a fan of herbalism, myself.
22:19.43[dRaCo]herb if you think long-terms
22:19.44winkillernymbia: hey! thanks for quartz, it so awesome
22:19.51sylvanaarNimbleRabit yeah, when was the last time you updated fubarplugin?
22:20.00sylvanaarNimbleRabit er dewdrop
22:20.11kenlyricores generally sell better from the get go, and there's a smaller number of them, but it takes longer to get them.
22:20.14nymbiaNimbleRabit: if you've got supplyanddemand running, then update it, kergoth just fixified it :)
22:20.14NimbleRabitsylvanaar: today probably why?
22:20.37sylvanaarthere ya go
22:21.11renchapKaelten: what is the error ?
22:21.15NimbleRabit"SupplyAndDemand - Already at rev 36893 - Skipping"
22:21.16NimbleRabit=/
22:21.22Nimlothis Tekkub around
22:21.41kergothhmm, odd, it works here.. :\
22:21.43Diaois s&d required?
22:21.44nymbiaNimbleRabit: hrm.
22:21.44Diaoo_O
22:21.54Arrowmastersvn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/trunk/!BugGrabber'
22:21.54Arrowmastersvn: Missing node-id in node-rev
22:21.58nymbiaDiao: nope, it's set as a loadmanger, so it's used if present
22:21.59kergothDiao, no, but if you have it, quartz will be LoD and loaded by it
22:22.05Diaooh
22:22.11Diaomeh i always use quartz anyway
22:22.13Diaono reason to have it lod :P
22:22.14kergothOnEnable is the addon's ADDON_LOADED isnt it?
22:22.36nymbiakergoth: should be, yeah.  maybe make the scan in response to PLAYER_LOGIN?
22:22.40vhaarrkergoth: No, OnInit is.
22:22.50sylvanaari like ## LoadWith: Ace2 ## LoadManager: Ace2
22:23.07sylvanaarthats all i need on/off
22:23.08Arrowmasterwhy would you ## LoadWith?
22:23.21sylvanaartry it yourself
22:23.22Tekkubno
22:23.24vhaarrkergoth: OnEnable is PLAYER_LOGIN.
22:23.29Arrowmasteri know what LoadWith does
22:23.38sylvanaarsame reason you use SupplyAndDemand-LoadAlways
22:23.44kergothhuh, i dunno then
22:24.14nymbiait's only the first time you log in in a session
22:24.15Arrowmasteroh so it makes it LoD but always loads it anyway if its enabled!
22:24.18Arrowmasterthats cool
22:24.25nymbiafreaking inconsistent LoadManagers behavior
22:24.29Kaeltenrenchap:
22:24.30Kaeltensvn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace'
22:24.30Kaeltensvn: Missing node-id in node-rev
22:24.30Kaeltensvnsync: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace'
22:24.30Kaeltensvnsync: Missing node-id in node-rev
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22:25.04kergoth~whaleslap blizzard
22:25.37purlACTION beats blizzard upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
22:25.37kenlyricalas
22:25.37Matrix110farming skyguards is boring-.-
22:25.42sylvanaarnymbia that was one of my big complaints about it
22:25.44CIA-2203gagorian * r36900 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
22:25.44CIA-22PT3Bar:
22:25.44CIA-22- Added vertical/horizontal compress feature. A bit of testing still needed.
22:25.55sylvanaarnymbia only checked when you start the game
22:26.01renchapKaelten: iam asking in #svn
22:26.29nymbiasylvanaar: yeah i posted about it and slouken didn't understand
22:26.41sylvanaarnymbia so did i
22:26.45Gagoriannymbia: test plix!
22:26.59nymbiaGagorian: nice
22:27.20nymbiasylvanaar: scratch, he posted today that he'd fix
22:27.30nymbiahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1&pageNo=3
22:28.00NimbleRabitnymbia: hmm I dunno what's up but the castbar also isn't working for me once I do load
22:28.01Arrowmasterwhat about getting the loadmanager to show up as a reqdep?
22:28.16nymbiaNimbleRabit: any errors?
22:28.33nymbiaArrowmaster: probably not gonna happen, since there could be multiple present
22:28.39NimbleRabitnymbia: no, it just doesn't show up.  It is hiding the blizzard one and my rezz timer did show up
22:29.05nymbiaNimbleRabit: odd, try clearing your savedvars
22:29.11nymbiai'll be back in a few, gotta run to the bank
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22:30.04bigzeroI'm having problems creating a dropdown list using aceoptions. Can someone point me to a mod that I could look at as an example? or look at my code? http://ace.pastey.net/40632
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22:30.42kergoth~rinsult
22:31.09sylvanaarwait, im confused about what bug you reported
22:31.14sylvanaarnymbia ^^
22:32.18GagorianStylpe
22:32.26StylpeYes
22:32.28kergoth~whalestab blizzard
22:32.40purlACTION stabs blizzard with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
22:32.40GagorianI've uploaded the compress feature, try it out
22:32.44StylpeWhee
22:33.06Fisker-~steveballmer kergoth
22:33.13purlACTION throws a chair at kergoth
22:33.13StylpeBut I'll have to try it later, in a group
22:33.13StylpeBut thanks a lot!
22:33.13sylvanaarnymbia are you saying that if you start the game from windows and S&D isnt enabled you will still be LoD?
22:33.20kergoth~emulate fry
22:33.22purlMy folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. What am I, the pope?
22:33.37yacoobhm
22:33.42Fisker-~fry
22:33.51yacoobany problems with bt and druid forms?
22:33.52GagorianStylpe: np :]
22:33.55sylvanaarnymbia or that it doesnt change if you enable and reloadui
22:34.25yacoobor bt3 doesn't support that?
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22:34.43nevcairielno problems whatsoever
22:34.46nevcairielor do you have any ? :o
22:35.04yacoobnevcairiel, should bear form and such be listed under 'stances'?
22:35.16nevcairielyes
22:35.58yacoobhm, it doesn't...
22:36.39nevcairielwhich language do you play with?
22:37.21xlviiError: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/trunk/Bartender3'  
22:37.21xlviiError: Missing node-id in node-rev  
22:37.23xlviiuh? ;p
22:37.41renchapi know
22:37.45Arrowmasternymbia: i disabled supplyanddemand and now quartz is loading but none of the lod modules are
22:37.48renchapsearching how to solve this
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22:38.53[dRaCo]we should start using "sad" as an abbreviation for supplyanddemand.
22:39.08Arrowmasters&d
22:39.19[dRaCo]na, that's too easy.
22:39.23ulicslice and dice?
22:39.33CIA-2203saroz * r36901 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesHealing.lua): sRaidFrames: Lots of performance optimizations, more to come
22:39.34xlviiulic, supply and demand.
22:39.39[dRaCo]using sad would result in funny sentences
22:40.30SarozRage Winterchill only dropped 1 BT attunement quest item (yes i said 1) and you need 25 of those to get a full raid in Black Temple.
22:40.32Sarozblizz is stupid
22:40.41Tornhoofduh leotheras to 1% :/
22:40.42Fisker-of course
22:40.49Fisker-old news Saroz :o
22:41.11Arrowmasterguessing theyre changing that like they did with vashj and kael
22:42.18SarozSHUUUSH
22:42.42CyrezI'm getting that same SVN error. </3
22:43.00renchapI KNOW :D
22:43.07CIA-2203sorren * r36902 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers.lua:
22:43.07CIA-22SorrenTimers:
22:43.08CIA-22- Fixed buff timers not fading properly
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22:44.50sdoubledoes mobhealth do the same stuff as mobinfo (track drops/resists/etc)
22:45.04Diaono
22:45.28Diaomobhealth only stores health
22:45.31DirtbagHello, I'm changing my UI for the first time and I have one problem, do one of you have a few secs to look at a pic to help me?
22:45.41Arrowmastermobhealth doesnt even store health by default
22:45.55Diaoer
22:45.57Diaocalculates health*
22:46.04LonedriverHi all, having a problem where pitbull seems to block auctionner. anyone seen this?
22:46.22DiaoDirtbag link the pic
22:46.26Dirtbaghttp://img177.imageshack.us/img177/862/venanuivn6xj9.jpg
22:46.28sylvanaarblock it doing what
22:46.43Lonedriverkeep it from loading
22:46.45nevcairielPitBull somehow blocks the PLAYER_LOGIN event, so stubby doesnt load it
22:46.47sylvanaarmaybe someone is tainting LoadAddon
22:46.55sylvanaaroh
22:47.07Diaok
22:47.13nevcairielsame error for some other addons
22:47.24Arrowmasterhow do you block an event???
22:47.40Diaodunno, but ace2 libs were doing that a while ago irc
22:47.41Diaoiirc*
22:47.46Diaoand stuff was erroring left and right :P
22:47.54nevcairielArrowmaster: if you can tell me that, we can probably fix it :P
22:47.59DirtbagDiao See that black bar that runs across the bottom, about 2" high, how do I add that?
22:48.04Diaoskinner
22:48.07Diaobottom frame
22:48.08Antiarc|WorkeePanels or Skinner
22:48.14Antiarc|WorkeePanels is a lot lighter
22:48.15Diaoeepanels works but that one looks like skinner
22:48.19sylvanaaryou can register for all events, then perhaps taint the global event, i dont know how that all works
22:48.31DirtbagOk
22:48.36sylvanaaror taint arg1-12
22:48.43nevcairielits not doing it on purpose, i hope ;)
22:49.17Arrowmastersvn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/trunk/!BugGrabber'
22:49.17Arrowmastersvn: Missing node-id in node-rev
22:49.20Arrowmastererr
22:49.30sylvanaarmost likely it makes a call that thows an exception
22:49.38Arrowmastersvn: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/!BugGrabber': 403 Forbidden (http://svn.wowace.com)
22:49.51Arrowmastergot that after changing svn.wowace.com to point to dev in my hosts file
22:50.00Arrowmaster=(
22:50.32renchapsvn help switch
22:50.49Ominousrenchap: is there anything you dont know instantly =P
22:50.49sylvanaaror hooks LoadAddOn
22:50.59renchapOminous: :)
22:51.10renchapi dont know how i can fix the svn mirror :/
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22:52.17DirtbagYay that worked thanks
22:52.34Antiarc|Workhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/106731334.htm
22:52.35Antiarc|WorkInteresting.
22:53.07kenlyricthe worst part about playing a blood elf is when you get armor and can't prance around naked anymore.
22:53.27wallenDid Blizzard remove the announcement they made today about Season 2? I cannot find it anymore.
22:54.27Diaolol
22:54.30Diaochecks your mailbox even
22:56.06Garounanyone know a quick script to type out the remaining cooldown on hearthstone to chat?
22:56.39bigzerocan someone please, please tell me an ace mod that uses waterfall and has a dropdown list in the settings?
22:58.09Nargiddleybigzero, why ?
22:58.09nymbialol Antiarc|Work.. pvp guilds play battlegrounds?
22:58.09Antiarc|Work*shrug*
22:58.09Matrix110"pvp" guilds...
22:58.09bigzeroNargiddley, i can't make a dropdown list, lol
22:58.20bigzeroNargiddley, http://ace.pastey.net/40632 is what i have and i get a textbx
22:58.34Nargiddleytext with validate = { 'Option1', 'Option2' }
22:58.40nymbiaand there was me thinking i was good pushing 2250 rating in 5v5s.. only to find out that the REAL pros play battlegrounds.
22:59.09bigzeroNargiddley, unless I'm missing something, that's what I have
22:59.22NightHawkTheSanenymbia: you should know by now you're just a hack wannabe. ;)
23:00.22Nargiddleyhm, might be the get=false doing something, i'll have a look
23:00.30bigzeroNargiddley, ty
23:00.57Cryectnymbia: well I hope kenco also put you in your place for Lua coding
23:01.33Stephmwthere's not much point to ClosetGnome_OhNoes these days, right?
23:01.54Matrix110no
23:02.01CIA-2203gagorian * r36903 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
23:02.02CIA-22PT3Bar:
23:02.02CIA-22- Fixed error with scaling frames after moving
23:02.02CIA-22- Dragging the first button of a compressed bar automatically compresses after moving
23:02.02nymbiaCryect: seriously
23:02.05Matrix110if you die you normally get oneshotted
23:02.18Matrix110and in the other cases you need to do it mannually anyway
23:02.26StephmwI was more thinking about durability... last I checked even inventory stuff got damaged
23:03.15Cryectno
23:03.15Cryectinventory stuff doesn't get damaged
23:03.15Cryectunles you spirit res
23:03.15NimbleRabitOhNoes is exactly as useful now as it always was
23:03.16bigzerogold is so easy to get, i don't understand why people even worry about repair costs
23:03.31Stephmwbigzero: it was just part of the collection, ya know?
23:03.34NimbleRabitbecause losing a few gold just by dying is lame
23:03.39NimbleRabitand adds up
23:04.01Matrix110if you pay 30g+ for red gear it can get quite annoying:P
23:04.04bigzerogood motivation not to die in that case
23:04.17NimbleRabitMatrix110: ouch mine is only 20
23:04.30StephmwMatrix110: lucky me, I'm still in blues
23:04.43StephmwMatrix110: my average is about 7-9g
23:04.51Stephmw... cloth, of course
23:04.54Matrix110i pay that with 2-3deads:P
23:04.57Matrix110cloth aswell
23:05.05bigzerowhat class?
23:05.09Matrix110mage
23:05.10Stephmwmage
23:05.14bigzerohehe, me too
23:05.24Stephmwhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Fragilist
23:05.33bigzeroi honestly never even look at what i pay
23:05.40Stephmwthey really need to shorten those URLs
23:06.13Matrix110www.tinyurl.com
23:07.33Diaoi check only because automaton repairs automatically
23:07.35Nargiddleybigzero, yeah its currently making it a textbox if get=false. I'll fix it to make a dropdown instead
23:07.37Diaoand puts it into the chatbox
23:07.41Matrix110same
23:07.43sylvanaarmaybe we need to pcall the shared media registration
23:07.44Stephmwsame
23:08.04StephmwDiao: it's always nice to compare to your group's repair bills :)
23:08.16StephmwDiao: but I don't count money... hell, I'm an enchanter, I piss money away
23:08.41bigzerowtf...my whole guild, posibly even realm is not to be found on armory
23:08.43Cryectwhy would you be calling shared media any place that you want secure?
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23:09.07bigzeroNargiddley, you mean you'll fix my code or the lib?
23:09.34NightHawkTheSanebigzero:  make sure your url doesn't have that stupid '#' in it. Not sure how it gets there, but it shouldn't be there.
23:09.37Diaoi'm an enchanter too lol
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23:10.09bigzeroi'm kinda pissed at people lvling enchanting..they do everything for free
23:10.24Nargiddleybigzero, the lib
23:10.51Nargiddleybigzero, that option you gave will become a dropdown with no selected value
23:10.54bigzeroNargiddley, removing # didn't help (though it was there)
23:11.04bigzeroNargiddley, awesome, thanks
23:11.59bigzerosomeone look up bigzero on spirestone please, maybe it's something on my end
23:12.52Stephmweu or us
23:12.53CIA-2203funkydude * r36904 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Malchezaar: fix infernal yell, it seems blizzard mispelled Malchezaar pre 2.1, and now corrected it, lol
23:13.08bigzerous....damn it, i think i was looking up eu
23:13.12nymbiaFunkeh`: rofl
23:13.20NightHawkTheSanebigzero: lol. :D
23:13.26Stephmwhaha
23:13.45CIA-2203nargiddley * r36905 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Use a dropdown instead of a textbox when validate = table and get = false
23:13.47Nargiddleybigzero, try that
23:14.02Stephmwworks for me...  troll mage, right?
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23:14.09bigzeroyup...worked for me too now
23:14.12bigzerohttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Spirestone&n=Bigzero
23:14.40renchapnymbia: with quartz, when you disable target buffs and the frame is unlocked the frame is still visible
23:15.02Antiarc|WorkO_____________O
23:15.03Antiarc|Workhttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275524,00.html
23:15.32Stephmwbigzero: so you've started the purple grind too :)
23:15.48ggilbertdamn
23:16.06nymbiarenchap: indeed it is, thanks
23:16.17bigzeroStephmw, i'm pretty much done with any sort of grind at least for 3 months
23:16.49bigzeroStephmw, can't raid at home. Have to wait for college to start again
23:17.51Stephmwbigzero: hahahaha
23:17.55CIA-2203gagorian * r36906 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
23:17.55CIA-22PT3Bar:
23:17.55CIA-22- Fixed compression of hidden buttons
23:17.55CIA-22- Better description of what compression does
23:18.04StephmwI can't raid atm, doing too much overtime at work
23:18.29CIA-2203nymbia * r36907 10Quartz/ (Focus/Focus.lua Player/Player.lua Target/Target.lua):
23:18.29CIA-22Quartz:
23:18.29CIA-22- Remove empty string hax for get=false, validate=table, as this is fixed in Waterfall-1.0 r36905
23:18.41bigzerolol
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23:18.49Nargiddleyhaha
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23:19.01Nargiddleyi was about to suggest that hax before i decided to fix it :P
23:19.09bigzerois wowace server based in europe?
23:19.32bigzerowas just looking at the timestamps on the updates and noticed that it's almost midnight
23:19.52Antiarc|WorkIt's probably on UTC time
23:20.26bigzerothat would make more sense
23:21.51|Pixel|pixel@sumarit:~$ host wowace.com
23:21.51|Pixel|wowace.com has address 209.9.227.66
23:21.51|Pixel|pixel@sumarit:~$ whois 209.9.227.66
23:21.51|Pixel|Beyond The Network America, Inc. BTN-CIDR4 (NET-209-8-0-0-1)
23:21.54sylvanaarCyrect alot of addons call it from thier file scope
23:22.11|Pixel|which should be hosted in Virginia
23:23.39sbuGagorian: compression as in "no empty buttons"?
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23:24.33bigzeroNargiddley, hmm, i get the dropdown list now, but it's not getting populated
23:24.58Gagoriansbu: yes
23:25.01bigzeroNargiddley, could be something in my code though, gonna go check
23:25.10Nargiddleybigzero, check the table is correct
23:25.59bigzeroone entry in the table should be enough, right?
23:26.34Nargiddleyyeah
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23:33.31*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater | Yes, custom unit frames are freezing your WoW client.
23:33.35shieldbso we'd have to crowd up near the inside instead
23:33.55Arrowmasternymbia: i disabled supplyanddemand and restarted wow, quartz loaded but none of the LoD modules did
23:34.03Arrowmasterand now i have the error messages for you
23:34.08shieldbhe did an 13k melee on our priest during the middle of the flying phase last night heh
23:34.19bigzerolol
23:34.30ArrowmasterQuartz_Tradeskill\Tradeskill.lua:95: attempt to index upvalue 'castBar' (a nil value)
23:34.41ArrowmasterQuartz_Player\Player.lua:389: <unnamed>:SetText(): Font not set
23:34.56Arrowmasterfirst error was when starting a cast, second when canceling
23:35.11nymbiaArrowmaster: the player module probably didn't load for some reason
23:35.27shieldbFunkeh`, any chance of a 35s initial fear cooldown bar on landing (at the start of the fight)? Tired of doing it manually every week ;)
23:35.30Gagoriannymbia: Think it would be better if PT3Bar didn't popup if there's only one item available in the category? And the item in the main bar wouldn't appear in the popup either.
23:35.50GagorianIt's slightly redundant to have two icons for the same item
23:36.02nymbiaArrowmaster: actually, it loaded, but OnInitialize failed to fire....
23:36.06CyrezGagorian: I second that. ^^
23:36.23nymbiaGagorian: sounds good to me
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23:36.40Nargiddleybigzero, does the char list exist at the point the options table is created ?
23:37.12CyrezWell, it'd make the most sense if it was like that and it didn't bother to pop up a duplicate of whatever is showing on the button.
23:37.15CyrezLike AutoBar.
23:37.17nymbiaArrowmaster: try a /dump Quartz.db.namespaces.Player.defaults
23:37.31GagorianCyrez: Yeah, that's what I'm after.
23:37.57GagorianHrmm, unless nymbia has time to add it I need to get acquainted with the popup stuff then.
23:38.19Arrowmasterlet me reload again
23:38.42Funkeh`shieldb: is that guarantgeed
23:38.47CyrezI still <3 it, tho.
23:39.03shieldbI don't have empyrical data, per se, but it's worked for my group for over 25 attempts
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23:39.42nymbiaGagorian: oh, that's why i didn't add it before, it'd need an extra table built
23:40.10shieldbI've just macro'd /bwcb 35 Fear? for his initial landing at this point, but it'd be nice to have it included
23:40.39Arrowmasternymbia: just reloaded, quartz is loaded by none of the modules
23:41.01nymbiaArrowmaster: no errors?
23:41.06Arrowmasterno errors
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23:41.17Funkeh`shieldb: is that 35 seconds after land or 35 after summon
23:41.18nymbiaArrowmaster: are the slash commands registered?
23:41.20Arrowmasteroh wait
23:41.26shieldb35 seconds after the intial landing
23:41.31Funkeh`shieldb: and is it 35 after every land? 75/50/25%
23:41.34shieldbno
23:41.37shieldbjust the first one
23:41.38Funkeh`ok
23:41.40shieldbwhen he lands at 100%
23:41.49Arrowmastersilly me, i had it disabled from when it was erroring earlyer
23:41.49shieldbevery other land fear is available immediately
23:41.57vhaarrnymbia: I mindcontrolled a mob with a spell casting ability, and it used the blizzard casting bar when I used it.
23:42.00Gagoriannymbia: A bit complicated to add then. Want to do it as I'm not familiar with it?
23:42.04bigzeroNargiddley, yes, just checked. called that function before waterfall and it returned a table
23:42.04nymbiaArrowmaster: you had me worries.
23:42.08Arrowmasterme too
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23:42.33Arrowmasterok now everything is loaded but swing and no errors
23:42.33nymbiavhaarr: hrm.  doesnt it still need to display your mind control channeling bar when you've got MC up?
23:42.37Arrowmasterlet me cast something
23:42.54vhaarrnymbia: what does?
23:43.18nymbiavhaarr: you're a priest, right?
23:43.21Arrowmasterhmm ok its working fine now, i guess the errors were probably caused by the bugged supplyanddemand
23:43.26vhaarrnymbia: yes
23:43.29NimbleRabitwoooo
23:43.39NimbleRabitI finally figured out what has been lagging me when I leave combat
23:44.05nymbiavhaarr: i thought the casting bar was supposed to show your 'mind control' bar for the entire duration?  at least, that's how it works when i target a priest who has an MC up
23:44.07sbuahh yes nymbia, same here - blizz casting bar showing up on casts with mindcontrolled units ;o
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23:44.18nymbiahrm
23:44.35vhaarrnymbia: the quart one shows the MC timer, but I get a blizz bar for the mobs casting.
23:44.36NimbleRabitit was Combat Text in Pitbull
23:44.41nymbiawhat level do you get MC?  my priest might be close.
23:44.51NightHawkTheSane30?
23:45.02sbuhttp://thottbot.com/s605
23:45.03sbuyep, 30
23:45.26nymbiamy priest's mid 20s, heh
23:45.43nymbiaso do we want the mind control channeling bar to disappear altogether?
23:45.52sbuno!
23:45.59sbu:)
23:46.08NightHawkTheSanecan you make the mob's casting bar use the swing timer bar? :P
23:46.15nymbiahaha
23:46.19sbuor the mirror bar - dont know if it works
23:46.57nymbiawhen you're just running default UI, blizzy doesnt show your mind control channel, right?
23:47.17sbuuhm - not sure, i think it does - but doesnt show unit casts
23:47.36nymbiaO.o
23:47.38NightHawkTheSaneyeah i think it shows your channel, but not the controlled units' cast bar
23:47.45sbubut i dont play with blizz ui for long time now... so not sure about this :o
23:48.03nymbiaweird shit.
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23:51.22NimbleRabitis there a way to link all of sanity's bags together
23:51.52nymbiaArrowmaster: now that i think about it, your errors were probably related to the thing i fixed in 36896
23:52.02kergothmeh
23:55.03NimbleRabitckknight: ping
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23:59.53Ominousis wowace slow atm or is it just e
23:59.58bigzeroNargiddley, this should work, right? /script local w=AceLibrary("Waterfall-1.0");w:Register("apx","aceOptions",{type="group",args={i={type="text",desc="",validate={1},get=false,set=function(v) message() end}}});w:Open("apx")

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