IRC log for #wowace on 20070524

`00:00.00`	`hyperChipmunk`	`for rarespawns with huge range`
`00:00.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`once you find them, they're hard to catch`
`00:00.22`	`Kossih_[]_`	`Jumoor, have you gotten any wiser on those target frames?`
`00:00.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and if you die, you gotta find 'em all over`
`00:00.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`if they were focused, the frame would pop up when they're in range`
`00:01.22`	`kebinusan`	`yeah, and the one cheap use was that in arena if you /focused someone and faced that team again you could find out sometimes before the match started`
`00:01.34`	`*** join/#wowace cladhaire_ (n=cladhair@cpe-74-71-116-245.twcny.res.rr.com)`
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`00:01.49`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hehe`
`00:02.27`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ`
`00:03.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Pod::Usage is hot.`
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`00:10.55`	`hypetech`	`anybody else having issues where their guild social window keeps popping up?`
`00:11.09`	`Mikk`	`no, but with it closing down while it's open`
`00:11.15`	`Mikk`	`i blame SpamSentry`
`00:11.27`	`Mikk`	`since it's running /whos in the background`
`00:11.47`	`evlwookie`	`nope all is fine here`
`00:11.49`	`hypetech`	`ah, that makes since. I'm running census+ and didn't update`
`00:12.33`	`evlwookie`	`running another wowace update right now. incase anything was changed from yesterday. but everything (addons) has been fine since the patch. the alt-tab bug is killing me thou :/`
`00:13.07`	`hypetech`	`ya`
`00:13.15`	`hypetech`	`I keep getting hammered by alt-taab`
`00:13.37`	`hypetech`	`never realized how much I used it ^_^`
`00:13.53`	`evlwookie`	`have to run it in a window mode now, that fixes it. but meh`
`00:14.17`	`hypetech`	`lol`
`00:14.18`	`hypetech`	`nty`
`00:14.38`	`hypetech`	`is it a mod bug or a blizz bug?`
`00:14.49`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`my want MainAssist functional.`
`00:14.54`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`~seen Nargiddley`
`00:16.04`	`purl`	`nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 12h 28m 39s ago, saying: 'heh and its not even available till december'.`
`00:16.04`	`Gnarfoz`	`yay great rogue pvp trinket change`
`00:16.04`	`Gnarfoz`	`it removes stuns... but says you can't do that while stunned ;D`
`00:16.05`	`hypetech`	`how do you even run it in windowed mode? 0.o`
`00:16.05`	`evlwookie`	`video options`
`00:16.05`	`hypetech`	`that's more intensive isn't it?`
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`00:18.41`	`Mikk`	`hmmmm`
`00:18.52`	`Mikk`	`idea: onMouseOver support in dewdrop`
`00:19.11`	`phyber`	`so, another well thought out Blizzard plan.`
`00:19.22`	`Mikk`	`which would pass in a frame covering the area where the menu item is`
`00:19.30`	`phyber`	`now that ShiftClick inserts an item into the AH search, how do you split stacks at the AH? :/`
`00:19.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`phyber: get auctioneer and alt-click the item? :>`
`00:19.59`	`Mikk`	`phyber: install Fence`
`00:20.17`	`Gnarfoz`	`or fence, if it mimicks that`
`00:20.25`	`phyber`	`I have Fence. that has nothing to do with Stack splitting? :p`
`00:20.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`(putting a single one of whatever you alt-clicked in there and let you specify how many auctions of how big stacks you want`
`00:21.06`	`phyber`	`hmm. ok.`
`00:21.22`	`Mikk`	`phyber: if you enable "clicks" in it, you can alt-click stuff to split`
`00:21.39`	`Mikk`	`alt-left splits in 1:n, alt-right splits ... in half?`
`00:21.41`	`Mikk`	`or something like that`
`00:21.53`	`Mikk`	`alt-right ofc collides horribly with baggins. sigh.`
`00:22.46`	`hypetech`	`anybody know why everytime I get an alt+tab crash, my bartender3 resets to what it was when I logged in before it crashed, even if I change it during that session? Does it only save settings on logout or something?`
`00:23.04`	`Mikk`	`wow only saves settings on logout and ui reload`
`00:23.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`hypetech, all addons work that way yea`
`00:23.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, you can't write to disk except for logout, unforced quit, and reloadui`
`00:23.48`	`KarlThePagan`	`the only things that are saved in real-time are server-side things like what spells/items/macros are in your bars`
`00:24.04`	`KarlThePagan`	`maybe something else but that's all I ever notice`
`00:24.12`	`Mikk`	`and not even macro contents are saved in real time`
`00:24.14`	`Mikk`	`afaik`
`00:24.20`	`hypetech`	`k`
`00:24.31`	`Mikk`	`anyway.. just "/reloadui" when you've tweaked settings`
`00:24.32`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea macros go away... frustrating`
`00:24.56`	`KarlThePagan`	`if you rename a macro and crash, it dissappears from your bars :P`
`00:24.58`	`hypetech`	`anybody know a workaround for this alt+tab craziness other than running in windowed mode?`
`00:25.00`	`CIA-23`	`03phyber * r36664 10Fence/Fence.toc:`
`00:25.00`	`CIA-23`	`Fence:`
`00:25.00`	`CIA-23`	`- Wipe: Comment out Fence_Wipe in the TOC. We don't need two reset buttons.`
`00:25.10`	`KarlThePagan`	`windowed mode isn't that bad`
`00:25.34`	`KarlThePagan`	`you could buy a mac or install linux ;)`
`00:25.34`	`hypetech`	`it's not that it's bad, it's that the computer I'm on right now can't handle it without wicked frame lag`
`00:25.44`	`KarlThePagan`	`update drivers?`
`00:25.47`	`hypetech`	`no`
`00:25.48`	`hypetech`	`lol`
`00:25.50`	`hypetech`	`old dell`
`00:25.50`	`KarlThePagan`	`hehe`
`00:25.52`	`hypetech`	`I'm at work :)`
`00:25.57`	`hypetech`	`my home machine would run it fine`
`00:25.59`	`KarlThePagan`	`you're as bad as I am`
`00:26.00`	`Kaelten`	`I run windowed frame all the time`
`00:26.01`	`Kaelten`	`:)`
`00:26.11`	`KarlThePagan`	`well almost...`
`00:26.16`	`hypetech`	`I've yet to try WoW on my linux box...does it run pretty stable under wine?`
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`00:26.29`	`KarlThePagan`	`officially supported under Cedega`
`00:26.34`	`KarlThePagan`	`should be fine under wine`
`00:26.38`	`Xuerian`	`hypetech: Seems like it used to, but troubles as of this patch :P`
`00:26.42`	`KarlThePagan`	`aw`
`00:26.44`	`hypetech`	`hehe`
`00:27.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`only new trouble is that it seems to hang when exiting`
`00:27.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`which is hardly a real problem`
`00:27.36`	`FrostByghte`	`ok, so target focus no longer lasts through death?`
`00:27.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`doesn't even last through model draw outrange`
`00:27.58`	`FrostByghte`	`holy hell`
`00:28.13`	`FrostByghte`	`is that a bug or a "feature"?`
`00:28.17`	`hyperChipmunk`	`no idea`
`00:28.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i bugreported it on Test`
`00:28.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`probably intended.`
`00:28.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but who knows if they read those`
`00:28.34`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`they do.`
`00:28.40`	`Bam__`	`are UI errors enabled or disabled by default?... Mine was enabled.... but maybe some addon changed it for me?`
`00:28.42`	`FrostByghte`	`man that blows...really hurting me in the BG's`
`00:29.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`Bam__: if you have fubar`
`00:29.03`	`hyperChipmunk`	`2.1 they made it enabled by default`
`00:29.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`er`
`00:29.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`it for example enables it on first login`
`00:29.13`	`hyperChipmunk`	`they hide errors by default`
`00:29.16`	`CIA-23`	`03gagorian * r36665 10DrDamage/ (Data/Mage.lua Locales/Localization-koKR.lua):`
`00:29.16`	`CIA-23`	`DrDamage:`
`00:29.16`	`CIA-23`	`- Removed two incorrect koKR localizations (need replacing)`
`00:29.16`	`CIA-23`	`- Possibly fixed Incineration talent in koKR`
`00:29.18`	`Bam__`	`ohh thanks :)`
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`00:55.53`	`abyssichate`	`Is anyone having weird freezes and hangups when logging in which go away as soon as you disable Grid?`
`00:56.47`	`Hjalte`	`abussichate, nope`
`00:59.07`	`chutwig`	`what's a good yellow gem for arenas for a lock?`
`00:59.11`	`chutwig`	`i haven't looked to see what new gems they've put in`
`01:02.13`	`hypetech`	`I really wish WoW would stop crashing >.<`
`01:03.49`	`Wixi`	`i've just heard a rumour about savegery enchant giving an attack speed buff as a proc o.0`
`01:03.55`	`Wixi`	`they gonan try SS it if it happens again`
`01:04.30`	`ckknight`	`hey all, back`
`01:04.41`	`Tuller`	`recount is stupidly awesome :)`
`01:05.01`	`art3mis`	`i should try and get one of the new decks`
`01:05.08`	`art3mis`	`there's a couple of pretty awesome ones`
`01:07.20`	`ckknight`	`Nimble_Rabit: pong`
`01:09.25`	`rophy`	`SWStats automatically turned itself off in 2.1?`
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`01:20.08`	`Wixi`	`http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/479/savegeryprocyn3.jpg`
`01:20.08`	`hypetech`	`anybody know where I can get the latest SW_Stats?`
`01:20.46`	`syeren`	`http://www.sw-stats.com/rel/SW_Stats.zip`
`01:20.47`	`syeren`	`?`
`01:21.09`	`hypetech`	`lol...ty`
`01:21.24`	`Wixi`	`where does that enrage buff come from in that ss? i can't work it out, a shaman with a Lunar Crescent and Savagery on it`
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`01:22.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Wixi: it's not a buff, it's a debuff, given by the mob he's fighting`
`01:23.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Note that it's red, and not grouped with the other buffs. ;)`
`01:23.16`	`Wixi`	`hmm`
`01:23.32`	`Nimble_Rabit`	`ckknight: heya`
`01:23.36`	`Wixi`	`wonderign why its so close to windfury weapon`
`01:23.44`	`Nimble_Rabit`	`ckknight: cartoprapher isn't liking tomtom's waypoints`
`01:23.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`probably just how he has his ebbs set up`
`01:23.57`	`ckknight`	`k...`
`01:24.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I'm sure it's a debuff, though, a I've fought those same mobs on the ptr. :)`
`01:24.15`	`Nimble_Rabit`	`and it works fine with normal map`
`01:24.16`	`Nimble_Rabit`	`so uhh`
`01:24.32`	`cladhaire`	`did it ever?`
`01:24.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`s/, a /, as /`
`01:24.59`	`Nimble_Rabit`	`cladhaire: it used to work perfectly fine in cartographer if you were talking to me`
`01:25.02`	`Mikk`	`so.. anyway... using items while the bank frame is open`
`01:25.18`	`Wixi`	`Purl: ok thanks`
`01:25.43`	`purl`	`Just send money...`
`01:25.44`	`Mikk`	`am i missing out on something or is there no way whatsoever to use items while the bank is open today?`
`01:25.44`	`Mikk`	`back before 2.0 addons could just UseContainerItem(...,...,true) iirc`
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`01:25.48`	`Mikk`	`and i was thinking i'd code that into baggins`
`01:26.01`	`Mikk`	`but .. erm... that's kinda protected these days :S`
`01:26.36`	`*** join/#wowace Toufas (n=ll@82.18.60.215)`
`01:26.43`	`Mikk`	`hmmm wait wonder what happens if i put up a fake actionbutton on top of the menu option`
`01:27.37`	`Toufas`	`is there a program that deletes .lua files that deleted addons left there?`
`01:28.09`	`Mikk`	`unused savedvars files you mean?`
`01:28.31`	`Toufas`	`yes`
`01:28.48`	`Mikk`	`not to _my_ knowledge but it shouldn't be hard to write`
`01:28.52`	`hypetech`	`okay. now I'm getting fatal exceptions out of nowhere. not even alt+tab anymore. anybody narrowed this down to a mod yet?`
`01:29.57`	`PProvost`	`Anyone who has BigWigs\TheEye\Alar.lua in a working copy... there is an erroneous period outside the quotes.`
`01:30.27`	`PProvost`	`Line 36`
`01:31.36`	`Toufas`	`also any idea why newest pitbull version insists on changing frame colour when people lose hp ?`
`01:31.38`	Funkeh`	`nevcairiel: did you check out the lag problem?`
`01:32.39`	`PProvost`	`Toufas, you mean the aggro indicator?`
`01:33.42`	`Toufas`	`hm`
`01:33.46`	`Toufas`	`maybe thats it`
`01:33.48`	`Toufas`	`let me check :P`
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`01:39.00`	`Toufas`	`its not the aggro`
`01:40.26`	`Toufas`	`when i got dmg the unitframe became red`
`01:40.29`	`Toufas`	`instead of the class colour`
`01:40.37`	`hypetech`	`banzai?`
`01:41.30`	`Toufas`	`it didnt change when i got agro`
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`01:42.20`	`Toufas`	`lol`
`01:42.28`	`Toufas`	`i disabled and enabled banzai`
`01:42.31`	`Toufas`	`and it got fixed :P`
`01:43.06`	`ulic`	`speaking of which, I think it should be suggested to have only active when in a party or raid, don't need it for soloing :)`
`01:45.30`	`Toufas`	`and is there something similar to confab?`
`01:45.35`	`Toufas`	`to hide the chatarrows`
`01:48.04`	`Daagar`	`prat`
`01:48.58`	`Mikk`	`so... on putting actionbuttons on top of dewdrop menuitems`
`01:49.03`	`Toufas`	`with prat i couldnt the pms were messy :/`
`01:49.12`	`Toufas`	`with prat the pms were messy :/`
`01:49.25`	`Toufas`	`it didnt say to: when i sent something`
`01:49.28`	`Mikk`	`how about having an "onMouseOver" handler dewdrop option that calls a function and gives it a frame?`
`01:50.17`	`Mikk`	`that way this onMouseOver thingy can add an actionbutton on top or whatever it damn wants to`
`01:52.34`	`Toufas`	`ok confirmed again, when i send and recieving pms with prat, there is no difference`
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`01:54.48`	`Jack_Twilley`	`Are there any Ace-based addons that do what itemrack and outfitter do, but better?`
`01:55.02`	`Wobwork`	`ClosetGnome?`
`01:55.18`	`Mikk`	`Not better though`
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`01:55.30`	`Mikk`	`ItemRack is > ClosetGnome in functionality tbh`
`01:55.42`	`Mikk`	`Having said that, I use closetgnome myself`
`01:56.00`	`Wobwork`	`I guess the 'but better' is the undefined qualifier`
`01:56.03`	`Jack_Twilley`	`As is Outfitter. For example, Outfitter does the "build the resistance set" thing nicely, and it switches between in-town and normal better.`
`01:56.06`	`Mikk`	`indeed`
`01:56.33`	`Jack_Twilley`	`Outfitter's no longer supported, and I don't think itemrack's being as actively developed these days either.`
`01:57.06`	`Mikk`	`I hear there's a brand spanking new version in the works that'll be out "soon". . for blizzard values of "soon" but ...`
`01:57.11`	`Mikk`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon`
`01:57.19`	`Toufas`	`any idea on how to make from and to pms look different in prat? Like "To: nick" or "Nick says:"`
`01:57.39`	`Mikk`	`Toufas: Channelname customizer`
`01:58.48`	`Mikk`	`"ChannelNames"`
`01:59.12`	`ulic`	`Jack_Twilley: there is outfitter-Updated on curse`
`01:59.25`	`Jack_Twilley`	`Ooooh, someone is maintaining it?`
`01:59.38`	`ulic`	`it looked that way`
`02:00.22`	`Toufas`	`thank you mikk :D`
`02:00.31`	`Mikk`	`So.. erm.. who will rip my head off if I add an "onMouseOver" event type to dewdrop? =P`
`02:01.04`	`Wobwork`	`ckk?`
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`02:01.16`	`ckknight`	`yes?`
`02:01.23`	`hypetech`	`is anybody else getting crashes every 5 minutes or so? >.<`
`02:01.34`	`Mikk`	`heya ck`
`02:01.43`	`ckknight`	`hey Mikk`
`02:01.49`	`Mikk`	`I was pondering the benefits of adding an "onMouseOver" event type to dewdrop`
`02:01.51`	`Wobwork`	`Mikk's wondering if you'll decapitate him`
`02:02.07`	`Mikk`	`In this particular case, I want to stick an actionbutton on top of a dewdrop menuitem`
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`02:02.13`	`Mikk`	`And that doesn't feel like dewdrop functionality to me`
`02:02.21`	`Mikk`	`But if I can get an event when something is moused over`
`02:02.26`	`Mikk`	`The addon can stick that in there itself`
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`02:02.39`	`Wobwork`	`Mikk: Can you make it apply poisons? =)`
`02:02.50`	`Wobwork`	`I'll <3 you lots if you do!`
`02:02.52`	`Mikk`	`That'd be doable if so, yes`
`02:02.53`	`Wobwork`	`<3<3<3`
`02:03.05`	`Mikk`	`Obviously won't work in combat but`
`02:03.09`	`Mikk`	`Hey`
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`02:03.45`	`Taoriki`	`I have what I hope is a quick question regarding WAU. I checked the wiki and I may be blind, so forgive me if i missed it. I DL'`
`02:03.52`	`Mikk`	`(The particular use case is having Baggins' alt-rightclick-on-item menu have a "Use" menu item while the bank frame is open)`
`02:03.53`	`Taoriki`	`'d 1.8 and loaded it`
`02:04.40`	`Taoriki`	`but it just sits there forever after the version check and says it's "retrieving available addons"`
`02:05.20`	`Taoriki`	`any idea how long it should take?`
`02:05.29`	`Mikk`	`oh like 2 seconds`
`02:05.42`	`Mikk`	`it just downloads a file from files.wowace.com`
`02:05.56`	`Jack_Twilley`	`Oh hey, I noticed seriously sucky behavior on Bartender3 last night. It wouldn't switch from my stealth bar to my normal bar during combat.`
`02:05.59`	`Mikk`	`it'll probably be obaying your IE proxy settings though`
`02:06.16`	`Mikk`	`so if your IE can't surf to files.wowace.com ...`
`02:06.19`	`Wobwork`	`A+++ would hack again?`
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`02:06.31`	`Wobwork`	`oh obey, not ebay`
`02:06.38`	`Jack_Twilley`	`Bah, IE proxy settings reset for me all the time. Totally hate.`
`02:06.42`	`Taoriki`	`hrm. i haven't used IE sinc ei built this comp.`
`02:06.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Wobwork: lol`
`02:06.47`	`Mikk`	`Wobwork: I r swedish. bork bork.`
`02:06.55`	`Jack_Twilley`	`Check the config anyway, Taoriki.`
`02:06.58`	`Taoriki`	`ok`
`02:07.27`	`Jack_Twilley`	`So the not-switching thing with Bartender3, is that a known issue, or what? I'm going to update before playing tonight, just thought I'd ask.`
`02:07.56`	`Diao`	`disable autobar`
`02:08.01`	`Diao`	`or update it?`
`02:08.09`	`Mikk`	`er.. autobar != bartender3`
`02:08.22`	`Jack_Twilley`	`I can update autobar and autobar config too.`
`02:08.36`	`Diao`	`every occurrence of bt3 not switching stance/stealth/forms`
`02:08.41`	`Diao`	`has been an issue with autobar conflict`
`02:08.46`	`Diao`	`from what i've seen in the past couple days :P`
`02:08.46`	`Mikk`	`oho`
`02:11.38`	`Jack_Twilley`	`I now have the most up-to-date versions of BT3, AB, and ABC. Let's see how well they work together.`
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`02:15.56`	`Wobwork`	`I bet they join together into a giant robot`
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`02:16.39`	`Taoriki`	`i think i figured out why it's not working.`
`02:16.48`	`Taoriki`	`i run xp64pro`
`02:17.01`	`Wobwork`	`That... shouldn't affect anything`
`02:17.07`	`Wobwork`	`since addons are interpreted ingame`
`02:17.21`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`i run x64 xp and x64 vista no problems here`
`02:17.35`	`Taoriki`	`yea, the updater just gets stuck at retrieving available addons`
`02:17.44`	`kenlyric`	`anyone have an idea if the children's week quest has a minimum level?`
`02:17.53`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`make sure you set the path to your wow installation`
`02:18.14`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`C:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft`
`02:18.20`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`then restart the program`
`02:19.23`	`Diao`	`level 60 kenlyric`
`02:19.38`	`kenlyric`	`I just saw a level 46 with a kid.`
`02:20.24`	`Taoriki`	`ok, weird. just dl'd it again and it works fine..`
`02:20.28`	`Taoriki`	`who knows`
`02:20.34`	`Taoriki`	`but thank you for the help!`
`02:21.09`	`Diao`	`level 60 for the outlands one`
`02:21.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`anybody know if you can do both the outland and the oldworld childrens week quests?`
`02:21.20`	`hyperChipmunk`	`why is there a giant map of terokkar covering up my map of sethekk halls in cartographer?`
`02:21.23`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`i heard someone doing them at the same time`
`02:21.32`	`Diao`	`you can do both yes`
`02:22.37`	`kenlyric`	`wonder what the min level is for the old one... I seem to remember it being 20 or 30.`
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`02:26.19`	Funkeh`	`ckknight: ping`
`02:26.29`	`ckknight`	Funkeh`: pong
`02:26.41`	Funkeh`	`ckknight: tried opening up an insatnce map lately? :P`
`02:26.45`	`ckknight`	`nope`
`02:26.46`	Funkeh`	`instance*`
`02:26.49`	Funkeh`	`try it :P`
`02:26.50`	`ckknight`	`and I don't feel like fixing it now`
`02:26.54`	`ckknight`	`I know the bug`
`02:26.57`	Funkeh`	`haha`
`02:26.59`	Funkeh`	`:P`
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`02:28.28`	`kergoth`	`vhaarr, violation's dps module shows 468.11330045 or something. should round :)`
`02:28.34`	`Antiarc`	`pcall is a call into c code, yes?`
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`02:28.39`	`Cryect`	`no`
`02:28.43`	`Cryect`	`pcall is just a protected call`
`02:28.49`	`Cryect`	`means the function can't taint your addon`
`02:29.13`	`Antiarc`	`Hm`
`02:29.22`	`Antiarc`	`56% of my overall cpu, according to protractor`
`02:29.26`	`Cryect`	`Yeah`
`02:29.33`	`Cryect`	`Ace calls everything with pcal`
`02:29.42`	`Cryect`	`and the time for that function gets credited to pcall`
`02:29.47`	`Cryect`	`instead of what was actually called`
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`02:30.43`	`Antiarc`	`Figured it was something like that`
`02:30.57`	`kergoth`	`pcall's the only way errors in ace can blame it on the actual cause though, its needed`
`02:30.57`	`Scre3m`	`hey folks, i'm having what i think is a problem with WAU, it seems to be patching all of the addons everytime it runs`
`02:30.58`	`Antiarc`	`Dear lord, Prat is 20% of my overall RAM usage.`
`02:31.05`	`Cryect`	`haha`
`02:31.13`	`Cryect`	`what the hell do you ahve Prat doing`
`02:31.17`	`Antiarc`	`I, uh, may be seeking alternatives`
`02:31.19`	`Antiarc`	`Mostly just stock crap`
`02:31.22`	`Antiarc`	`Nothing special`
`02:31.26`	`Cryect`	`I don't think mine is that bad`
`02:32.12`	`Antiarc`	`3.2 MB total usage`
`02:32.14`	`Antiarc`	`Ooh`
`02:32.20`	`Antiarc`	`Maybe it's the player name coloring DB`
`02:32.24`	`kenlyric`	`dear lord, enhtooltip is using 15mb...`
`02:32.37`	`Cryect`	`prat is sitting at 638kb for me`
`02:32.46`	`Kemayo`	`kenlyric: It does have a cache of item sellvalues, I guess...`
`02:32.47`	`Cryect`	`now I really wonder why Mr Plow is using 2.2mb`
`02:33.03`	`kenlyric`	`Kemayo: that should be informant.`
`02:33.12`	`mjc`	`Antiarc: log less?`
`02:33.17`	`mjc`	`auto lod ?`
`02:33.18`	`Kemayo`	`Hm, good point.`
`02:33.34`	`Kemayo`	`I'm guessing lots and lots of accidentally kept data references, then.`
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`02:33.45`	`mjc`	`you mean memory leaks`
`02:33.53`	`Kemayo`	`I was trying to be polite.`
`02:34.04`	`mjc`	`nothing polite about comp sci`
`02:34.14`	`mjc`	`black and white.`
`02:34.21`	`kenlyric`	`now it's off the list of 20....`
`02:34.25`	`Cryect`	`its memory use is O(e^n)!`
`02:34.27`	`Cryect`	`:-p`
`02:34.55`	`kenlyric`	`ah lootlink, my favorite memory hog.`
`02:35.15`	`Cryect`	`switch over to itemsync its really tiny`
`02:35.54`	`Antiarc`	`mjc: Setting those now`
`02:35.58`	`Antiarc`	`The Rupture addon is kinda heavy too`
`02:36.15`	`mjc`	`tooltipexchange`
`02:36.19`	`mjc`	`:P`
`02:37.00`	`rronkiv`	`anyone heard of identify?`
`02:37.09`	`rronkiv`	`err`
`02:37.10`	`rronkiv`	`rcharacter, chat, guild, roleplayIdentity`
`02:37.11`	`rronkiv`	`errr`
`02:37.22`	`rronkiv`	`Identity*`
`02:37.34`	`Scre3m`	`i use it, rronkiv`
`02:38.06`	`Scre3m`	`what's the name of the wowi channel?`
`02:38.16`	`ckknight`	`#wowi-lounge`
`02:39.05`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`all the cool people hang out here though`
`02:39.13`	`ckknight`	`true`
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`02:41.21`	`Antiarc`	`I have no idea what the deal is, but yeah, Prat is eating gobs of memory.`
`02:41.37`	`Xuerian`	`Hey mjc, I have two 1g sticks of ECC 2700, want em for 50$?`
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`02:45.42`	`ulic`	`ckknight: how about only doing Banzi aggro coloring when in party or raid?`
`02:46.07`	`ckknight`	`probably a good idea, unless you have a pet...`
`02:46.27`	`ckknight`	`hunters would want to know whether they or their pet has aggro`
`02:46.56`	`Industrial`	`yap, for offtank`
`02:47.51`	`ulic`	`that's resonable, perhaps then if not raid, party or pet :)`
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`02:53.48`	`Scre3m`	`anyone in here having similar problem with WUA (wowaceupdater)?`
`02:54.54`	`ulic`	`Scre3m: you downloaded the latest version from sourceforge right?`
`02:55.01`	`Scre3m`	`yes`
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`02:56.46`	`CIA-23`	`03rophy * r36666 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (Basics.lua SimpleUnitFrames.toc):`
`02:56.46`	`CIA-23`	`SimpleUnitFrames:`
`02:56.46`	`CIA-23`	`- Prevent divide by zero HP/MP.`
`02:56.46`	`CIA-23`	`- TOC 20100.`
`03:00.18`	`ulic`	`hmm, I haven't had that problem`
`03:05.36`	`Antiarc`	`Could Prat's reported memeory usage be due to embedded libs?`
`03:05.46`	`Mikk`	`Certainly`
`03:05.56`	`Mikk`	`But I don't have any embedded libs in my Prat`
`03:06.00`	`Mikk`	`And it's ... high`
`03:08.01`	`ulic`	`I don't have a %, but my Prat is at 1.10MB`
`03:10.07`	`Mikk`	`1.29MB for my prat`
`03:10.27`	`Mikk`	`and my Prat\libs\ folder is empty`
`03:12.02`	`ulic`	`mine is pretty straight defaults I think, except I turned levels off`
`03:13.00`	`Thorgard`	`My Prat's.. 505KiB.`
`03:14.10`	`Mikk`	`jesus christ my prat's SV file is half a meg`
`03:14.19`	`Mikk`	`gogo PlayerNames memory hogging`
`03:14.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i like how people are shocked at that`
`03:14.34`	`FrostByghte`	`for some odd reason Cartographer will not let any of the map objectives in AV show anymore`
`03:18.50`	`Mikk`	`then again my entire UI only eats 16MB so it's not like i'm about to have a nuclear meltdown or anything`
`03:20.51`	`Sedai`	`my cartographer is borked`
`03:21.06`	`Sedai`	`is there a working version out there?`
`03:23.16`	`nymbia`	`out there?`
`03:23.24`	`nymbia`	`the latest version works, yes`
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`03:24.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`it works but it has bugs doesnt it?`
`03:24.33`	`FrostByghte`	`mine works, it just will no longer display any of the objects on the AV map`
`03:26.05`	`Xuerian`	`wtb FubarPlugin DisableTooltip option`
`03:27.10`	`Neebler`	`you can disable it in combat`
`03:27.21`	`Xuerian`	`o.0?`
`03:27.32`	vid`	`lol`
`03:27.36`	`Xuerian`	`oh.`
`03:27.36`	vid`	`yea i begged for that shit`
`03:27.37`	`Xuerian`	`That option.`
`03:27.40`	vid`	`for like 2 months :)`
`03:27.42`	`Xuerian`	`>.>`
`03:27.43`	vid`	`lol`
`03:29.08`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: I dont understand escapeChar() in AceConsole. What does ('\\%03d') do? emphasis on %03`
`03:29.22`	vid`	`Lost.S03E23.HDTV.XviD.CAPH`
`03:29.24`	vid`	`yay!`
`03:29.26`	vid`	`finally`
`03:31.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`'Use of uninitialized value in concatenation or string' my ASS. lrn2shift, perl!`
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`03:37.49`	`Thorgard`	`I'm not sure why, but Violation isn't rounding the Damage Per Second number off correctly for one of the people on the list.`
`03:39.56`	`rronkiv`	`last night sucked :\`
`03:40.19`	`rronkiv`	`never get mad at all your addons for 1's problem.. LOL`
`03:40.29`	Funkeh`	`1 problem?`
`03:40.37`	`rronkiv`	`i had like 21 diffrent addons`
`03:40.48`	`rronkiv`	`(well directorys besides blizzards stuff in my addons)`
`03:40.55`	`rronkiv`	`1 addon had a problem`
`03:40.57`	`rronkiv`	`i deleted them all`
`03:41.01`	`Thorgard`	`http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l256/That1Swede/viol.jpg`
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`03:43.00`	`rronkiv`	`is that your mod thorgard?`
`03:43.40`	`Mikk`	`bwhahahaa.... the stuff you see in event traces`
`03:43.49`	`Mikk`	`"UNIT_LOYALTY" arg1:"player"`
`03:43.50`	Funkeh`	`i have the same problem Thorgard`
`03:43.54`	`Thorgard`	`rronkiv, no. ;P`
`03:44.00`	`Mikk`	`My own loyalty towards myself changed? o.O`
`03:44.13`	`Thorgard`	Funkeh`, is the unit with the funky DPS a pet class or something for you?
`03:44.14`	`rronkiv`	`your not loyal to your self anymore?`
`03:44.19`	Funkeh`	`yeah`
`03:44.22`	`Aenslaed`	`why did they add sounds to gruul and maulgar now -_-`
`03:44.23`	Funkeh`	`.983769827`
`03:44.26`	Funkeh`	`wierd numbers`
`03:44.31`	Funkeh`	`but it seems pretty random`
`03:44.32`	`Aenslaed`	`maulgar is grunting, gruul sounds like he's orgasming`
`03:44.45`	`Thorgard`	`Guess it's not rounding the player+pet DPS correctly.. if it's factoring in pet DPS in the list.`
`03:44.46`	`Antiarc`	`Heh, yeah`
`03:44.46`	Funkeh`	`givf maulgar transcript`
`03:45.05`	`Aenslaed`	Funkeh`: for what?
`03:45.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`gruul mod could use some work`
`03:45.15`	Funkeh`	`replace syncing with some yells`
`03:45.34`	`Mikk`	`You know what mod could use some work? Nightbane`
`03:45.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`how is growth tracked?`
`03:45.49`	`Aenslaed`	`meh, didn't record anything`
`03:45.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`is it a combatlog event?`
`03:46.01`	Funkeh`	`its an emote`
`03:46.04`	`Aenslaed`	Funkeh`: also, void reaver mod is borked now
`03:46.09`	`rronkiv`	`i know for a fact someone will figure out how to do it.. i cant wait for a aim/msn/yahoo addon for wow :P`
`03:46.11`	Funkeh`	`borked how?`
`03:46.16`	`Aenslaed`	`seems like every other arcane orb is orb(arcane orb target)`
`03:46.18`	`Aenslaed`	`literally`
`03:46.19`	`Mikk`	`rronkiv: keep dreaming :S`
`03:46.26`	`rronkiv`	`Mikk, it will happen`
`03:46.27`	Funkeh`	`O_o`
`03:46.35`	`Mikk`	`if it happens, it will be patched away by blizzard`
`03:46.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`i know the growth count is wrong when you login mid fight`
`03:46.45`	`Mikk`	`addons are not supposed to be able to communicate in real time with the outside world`
`03:46.46`	Funkeh`	`obviously`
`03:46.56`	`rronkiv`	`either that`
`03:47.07`	`rronkiv`	`or i cant wait for someone to make a client, for yahoo/msn/icq/aim that will work like xfire`
`03:47.14`	`rronkiv`	`hit a button and pop open a chat window :P`
`03:47.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres an msn one but its crap`
`03:47.36`	`rronkiv`	`i dont see what blizzards big problem is,`
`03:47.42`	`rronkiv`	`i'd love to have a irc addon or a icq addon`
`03:47.50`	`Mikk`	`they don't want addons communicating with the outside world for a slew of reasons`
`03:47.58`	`Mikk`	`mostly having to do with botting`
`03:48.01`	`rronkiv`	`think bout it, your in game, you see a ace addon addon's error and u can right away tell people in here :P`
`03:48.21`	`rronkiv`	`all someone really has to do,`
`03:48.51`	`rronkiv`	`is make a addon that can communite with a exe outside of wow, the outside exe will handle all the connections and prahse it to something like a xml to show in game`
`03:49.07`	`Mikk`	`good luck`
`03:49.14`	`Mikk`	`outside. world. communication. not. happening.`
`03:49.18`	Funkeh`	`Aenslaed: transcripts are always helpful though`
`03:49.19`	`rronkiv`	`i take it its impossible to use addons and outside exs?`
`03:49.20`	`Mikk`	`addons run in a sandbox`
`03:49.23`	Funkeh`	`for fixing bosses also`
`03:49.41`	`rronkiv`	`:\`
`03:49.45`	`Mikk`	`the only point where you can communicate with the outside world is on login, ui reload, and logout`
`03:49.56`	`rronkiv`	`hmmmm`
`03:50.01`	`rronkiv`	`then i got it :P`
`03:50.13`	`Aenslaed`	Funkeh`: i'm not in the habit of making transcripts. I'll look into how to do that
`03:50.15`	`rronkiv`	`try to find a way to trigger a "uireload" with out actually reloading`
`03:50.40`	`rronkiv`	`cause a ingame browser would rock`
`03:50.55`	`rronkiv`	`can you get addons to communitate with a mysql?`
`03:51.06`	`rronkiv`	`if the mysql db is on ur hdd?`
`03:51.09`	`rronkiv`	`or a sql db`
`03:51.35`	`Mikk`	`which part of "no outside world communication" are you not getting?`
`03:51.40`	`rronkiv`	`no i mean`
`03:51.44`	`rronkiv`	`lets say i have a .db file`
`03:51.47`	`rronkiv`	`in my /addons/ directory`
`03:51.49`	`rronkiv`	`could i read that?`
`03:51.51`	`Mikk`	`no`
`03:52.02`	`Mikk`	`you can have a .lua file there`
`03:52.08`	`Mikk`	`it gets read on login and reload`
`03:52.14`	`Mikk`	`at no other point does it get loaded into ram`
`03:52.18`	`rronkiv`	`mikk, im not talking about that anymore`
`03:52.30`	`rronkiv`	`can i pm you please?`
`03:52.46`	`Mikk`	`sur`
`03:53.26`	`Thorgard`	`My magic eightball says 'no'.`
`03:58.31`	`Hjalte`	`Does anyone know what battlegroup Kazzak-eu is in?`
`03:59.40`	`Killmore`	`wow nice answer from Kenco (KTM) about his cpu/memory usage on KTM http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/`
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`04:01.55`	`Hjalte`	`Killmore, haha. You have to laugh at that...`
`04:02.14`	Funkeh`	`he doesn't give a shit though`
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`04:02.21`	Funkeh`	`arrogant attitude`
`04:02.54`	`nymbia`	Funkeh`: what about your mom?
`04:03.21`	Funkeh`	`kenco is more arrogant than my mum trust me`
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`04:03.55`	`nymbia`	`oh lol`
`04:03.56`	`Hjalte`	`Well, he did write quite a nice addon, but hey, so did many of you guys in here.`
`04:03.57`	`nymbia`	`what'd he say`
`04:04.22`	`Diao`	`hm`
`04:04.25`	Funkeh`	`he said your mum sucks hes baclls nymbia`
`04:04.25`	`Diao`	`when i turn on cpu profiling`
`04:04.29`	`Diao`	`my fps drops a ton`
`04:04.34`	`Diao`	`:(`
`04:04.34`	`nymbia`	Funkeh`: lol
`04:04.37`	`kergoth`	`Diao: unsurprising`
`04:04.46`	`Diao`	`in shat it goes from like 40 fps down to 10 D:`
`04:05.02`	`nymbia`	`Diao: there's overhead, plus if you have perffu is does time tracking so that's extra overhead`
`04:05.33`	`Diao`	`m`
`04:05.43`	`Diao`	`even with like 200 ace addons ace2 is only using 5mb of mem :o`
`04:06.16`	Funkeh`	`some people think thats high, but divide it by the nubmer of ace addons you have`
`04:06.16`	`Mikk`	`Hjalte: http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Kazzak_Europe`
`04:06.18`	`nymbia`	no serious Funkeh` where's kenco bein arrogant?
`04:06.22`	Funkeh`	`its like a aeroplane`
`04:06.22`	`Killmore`	`why you guys dont do a Ace Threatmeter ? :(`
`04:06.30`	Funkeh`	`lots of fuel but divided by the passengers`
`04:06.38`	`Mikk`	`because threat metering is a big fucking pain in the arse that needs constant tweaking`
`04:06.40`	`Hjalte`	`Mikk, i found the info on blizz homepage after some searching, but thanks anyway :)`
`04:06.40`	`Mikk`	`mostly`
`04:06.45`	`Industrial`	`Killmore: why not you?`
`04:06.46`	Funkeh`	`http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/`
`04:06.49`	Funkeh`	`nymbia:`
`04:06.55`	`Mikk`	`having said that, i detest KTM's gui`
`04:06.59`	`Diao`	`25kb per addon`
`04:07.01`	`Diao`	`not too bad`
`04:07.10`	Funkeh`	`:P`
`04:07.40`	`Mikk`	`it'd be totally doable to make e.g. a fubar addon that suppresses the KTM gui and just steals the data from it`
`04:08.04`	`Mikk`	`ooooh`
`04:08.08`	`Mikk`	`^ free idea. =)`
`04:08.40`	`a-stray-cat`	`meh, it can't be that hard`
`04:08.44`	`Cryect`	`why the hell is performancefu showing it only using 15% I wonder`
`04:08.47`	`Cryect`	`for ktm that is`
`04:08.54`	`Cryect`	`I mean thats the top 3 addons isn't it?`
`04:08.56`	`nymbia`	`its 15% of total CPU`
`04:08.59`	`Diao`	`cpu usage`
`04:09.02`	`Cryect`	`oh total cpu`
`04:09.02`	`Cryect`	`wtf`
`04:09.05`	Funkeh`	`its 4% for me`
`04:09.06`	`nymbia`	`ms of CPU time used per second`
`04:09.07`	`Mikk`	`total lua related cpu usage`
`04:09.09`	Funkeh`	`but i guess it varies`
`04:09.12`	`Mikk`	`no?`
`04:09.20`	`Cryect`	`I prefer it in addon percentages :-p`
`04:09.40`	`Mikk`	`cause using 15% of your computer wide cpu time is ... erm... arf?`
`04:09.50`	`Cryect`	`I like how he doesn't find it strange that its almost 7 times higher than PerfFu`
`04:10.05`	`Cryect`	`and thts when a person is sitting in the AH :-p`
`04:10.14`	`Cryect`	`15% of your CPU for sitting in the AH great addon!`
`04:10.16`	`Cryect`	`for tracking threat`
`04:10.22`	`Mikk`	`prolly be the gui being stupid then`
`04:10.29`	`Cryect`	`The gui can be hiddne`
`04:10.32`	`Cryect`	`and it does the exact same`
`04:10.38`	`Mikk`	`O.O`
`04:10.44`	`Cryect`	`Its really crappy code`
`04:10.53`	`Mikk`	`wtf is he doing? creating and destroying two hundred tables each onupdate?`
`04:10.54`	`Cryect`	`he has a hidden frame that does stuff every single frame`
`04:10.59`	`Cryect`	`first off`
`04:11.07`	`Cryect`	`KTM has its own builtin performance monitoring system`
`04:11.19`	`Mikk`	`oh that's really useful to have enabled >.<`
`04:11.20`	`Cryect`	`thats sucking up like 20% of the usage or so at least I found`
`04:11.33`	`Cryect`	`Btw basically no one even knows it exists`
`04:11.33`	Funkeh`	`wtf`
`04:11.35`	Funkeh`	`i jsut realised`
`04:11.42`	`Cryect`	`I only found it when I was trying to figure out whta was fucked up`
`04:11.44`	Funkeh`	`default blizz ui now does EQ compare`
`04:12.14`	`Mikk`	Funkeh`: except eqcompare still rox its sox with stat comparisons
`04:12.23`	`Cryect`	`Heh I'm responding to Kenco on that 15% :-p`
`04:12.30`	Funkeh`	`lol Cryect`
`04:12.46`	`Xuerian`	`That and blizz ui seems not to like xloot`
`04:12.55`	`Xuerian`	`zomg impliment it right.`
`04:13.05`	`Mikk`	`hm? i'm using xloot and it's behaving just fgine?`
`04:13.17`	`nymbia`	Funkeh`: check out my post lol ;)
`04:13.19`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk: Is blizz's new eqcompare thing working for it?`
`04:13.32`	`Mikk`	`aeuhm`
`04:13.36`	`Mikk`	`no bloody idea`
`04:14.09`	`Mikk`	`relogging my roogle for some hawt lockbox action`
`04:14.14`	`CIA-23`	`03toadkiller * r36667 10AutoBar/ (Bindings.xml ChangeList.lua):`
`04:14.14`	`CIA-23`	`AutoBar:`
`04:14.14`	`CIA-23`	`-- Fix missing keybindings`
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`04:15.17`	Funkeh`	`lol at my server bandwidth`
`04:16.17`	Funkeh`	`2007-05-19 9.55MB, 2007-05-20 19.95MB, 2007-05-21 261.95MB, 2007-05-22 8,702.05MB, 2007-05-23 35,354.66MB, 2007-05-24 1,552.45MB`
`04:16.31`	`CIA-23`	`03ckknight * r36668 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add maintanktargettarget and mainassisttargettarget. I figure it'll be quite worthwhile.`
`04:16.45`	`a-stray-cat`	`oooh.`
`04:16.51`	`kenlyric`	`the little timers that show up on the player frame... which setting controls those? in pitbull?`
`04:16.53`	`arcanefoam`	`ne 1 has reported a Grid Dewdrop error?`
`04:17.03`	`Mikk`	`Xuerian: nop, blizz eqcompare doesn't wanna play ball`
`04:17.13`	`Mikk`	`at least not with tinytip loaded at the same time`
`04:17.21`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk: That's what I thought. I don't know why, tekkcompare and eqcompare both worked last I checked`
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`04:17.29`	`Mikk`	`i'll try without tinytip`
`04:17.30`	`Xuerian`	`I hate having to do some hackky shit to do something blizz should've done`
`04:17.45`	`Xuerian`	`Thanks for trying :p`
`04:19.15`	`a-stray-cat`	`those percentages aren't total CPU right? that'd be kind of silly.`
`04:19.19`	`Mikk`	`nope, it doesn't want to`
`04:19.40`	`Xuerian`	`ah well`
`04:21.48`	`Mikk`	`wonder how they implemented that then`
`04:22.01`	`Mikk`	`you're popping up a standard gametooltip?`
`04:22.06`	`Xuerian`	`Yes`
`04:22.20`	`Xuerian`	`As much of xloot is the same as the default ui as possible >_<`
`04:23.11`	`arcanefoam`	`ok, it is not Grid, ir is GridAlertr`
`04:23.18`	`arcanefoam`	`GridAlert*`
`04:24.00`	`Mikk`	`Hrmz.. wonder where it's picking up on shift getting hit`
`04:24.35`	`Mikk`	`must be in an onupdate`
`04:24.37`	`Xuerian`	`Knowing blizz, they'll have some weird OnModifiedEnter script or some shit. I'll get the framexml and look later :p`
`04:25.14`	`Mikk`	`nah, you can keep your mouse hovering over something and toggle shift on and off`
`04:25.20`	`Mikk`	`the extra tip appears and disappears along with shift`
`04:25.23`	Funkeh`	`nymbia: do you use omnicc`
`04:25.24`	`Mikk`	`so there's something outside monitoring it`
`04:25.52`	`Mikk`	`i'm guessing an onupdate testing for IsShiftPressed()`
`04:25.53`	`zoktar`	`anyone care for a bug ? =P`
`04:26.01`	`Xuerian`	`Ah....`
`04:26.05`	`Xuerian`	`http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/2106692/live/78`
`04:26.19`	`CIA-23`	`03laotseu * r36669 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed.lua AllPlayed.toc):`
`04:26.20`	`CIA-23`	`AllPlayed:`
`04:26.20`	`CIA-23`	`- Removing reference to Metrognome in the TOC (thanks to Mikk for the help)`
`04:26.32`	`nymbia`	Funkeh`: yeah
`04:26.42`	Funkeh`	`nymbia: wierd, thought it might be a clash with it`
`04:26.51`	Funkeh`	`got a similar error to the quartz one when opening the mail`
`04:27.08`	`zoktar`	`a:1272: in function <Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua typ spam bug`
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`04:27.08`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`04:27.16`	`Mikk`	`Xuerian: i win =)`
`04:27.18`	`zoktar`	`type`
`04:27.25`	`Mikk`	`Now, question is why it's hating you... IsOwned?`
`04:28.15`	`Mikk`	`must be that it's owned by the wrong frame`
`04:28.23`	`Mikk`	`can't see another reason for it not happening`
`04:28.37`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk: http://xuerian.pastey.net/39231 :p`
`04:28.39`	`Mikk`	`unless you're overring onupdate and not calling the original`
`04:28.54`	`Mikk`	`hehe`
`04:29.10`	`Mikk`	`gogo call original. win =)`
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`04:29.33`	`Xuerian`	`Not really`
`04:29.43`	`Xuerian`	`have to write my own to get around their retarded paging system`
`04:29.46`	`Mikk`	`o.O`
`04:29.47`	`Xuerian`	`I think.`
`04:29.58`	`Mikk`	`aeuhuaeh`
`04:29.59`	`Mikk`	`ebbeh`
`04:30.10`	`Mikk`	`but those handlers only take a "this"?`
`04:30.17`	`Mikk`	`and liek.. "this" contains the loot id`
`04:30.19`	`Mikk`	`and not much else?`
`04:30.27`	`Xuerian`	`shrug`
`04:30.33`	`Mikk`	`just trying calling the old handlers imo`
`04:30.42`	`Xuerian`	`if IsShiftKeyDown() GameTooltip_ShowComapreItem() is the thing though`
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`04:31.10`	`Mikk`	`aye`
`04:31.31`	`Mikk`	`hmm ohyeah there'll be a reason why you replaced them in the first place won't there =P`
`04:31.41`	`Diao`	`wait so`
`04:31.43`	`Mikk`	`aaaaaaanyway, while on the topic of XLoot...`
`04:31.51`	`Diao`	`eqcompare is built in now?`
`04:32.03`	`Mikk`	`only a vanilla eqcompare. no stat comparisons n stuff`
`04:32.11`	`Diao`	`oh`
`04:32.20`	`Diao`	`well that's what um`
`04:32.23`	`Diao`	`ratingbuster is for`
`04:32.24`	`Diao`	`isn't it`
`04:32.35`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk: yees?`
`04:32.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`probably easier to build stuff like that in now, too`
`04:32.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`adding the comparisons should be easy`
`04:32.54`	`Mikk`	`Can we have a tracker in XLootGroup that remembers which party members rolled need/greed on items? =)`
`04:32.55`	`CIA-23`	`03xuerian * r36670 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Drycode fix for Blizz's retarded eqcompare. ... retards.`
`04:33.10`	`Mikk`	`And show it in tooltip?`
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`04:33.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`you tell em Xuerian.`
`04:33.20`	`Diao`	`so there's no need for like eqcompare anymore right`
`04:33.49`	`Xuerian`	`Diao: Up to your preference`
`04:34.10`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk: It shouldn't actually be that hard.`
`04:34.18`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk: That's already tracked, anyhow`
`04:34.24`	`Mikk`	`Yeah the number of em`
`04:34.49`	`Mikk`	`Ohyeah and in the log thingy`
`04:34.49`	`Xuerian`	`I'll log on my faux raid when I'm done with this quest`
`04:35.14`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`anyone know a quick and dirty way to recursively change permissions on a directory structure in *nix?`
`04:35.15`	`nymbia`	`Xuerian: lol`
`04:35.15`	`Diao`	`http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic <- lol`
`04:35.15`	`Xuerian`	`It's not catching various stack messages, I know`
`04:35.15`	`Mikk`	`NightHawkTheSane: chmod -r`
`04:35.15`	`Cryect`	`Alright need opinions which one looks more informative/makes sense http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4180/monocolorvm2.jpg vs http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1334/bicolorwh1.jpg`
`04:35.16`	`Mikk`	`err or -R`
`04:35.17`	`Xuerian`	`it also seriously needs to be re-written...`
`04:35.19`	`Mikk`	`err`
`04:35.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Mikk: yeah, i just realized chmod probably has a switch for that. >.>`
`04:35.20`	`Mikk`	`fucks sake`
`04:35.30`	`Mikk`	`anyway, yeah, it does =)`
`04:36.03`	`Xuerian`	`~framexml`
`04:36.14`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p`
`04:36.47`	`Mikk`	`Cryect: What are you attempting to show with that background colorization?`
`04:36.56`	`Mikk`	`~literal framexml`
`04:37.07`	`purl`	`"framexml" is "<reply> get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p"`
`04:37.36`	`Cryect`	`Mikk: Its supposed to show what times are in combat`
`04:37.58`	`Cryect`	`Mikk: was refraining from saying at that first to see what made more sense without me saying something :-p`
`04:38.11`	`Mikk`	`purl, no, <reply> get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/`
`04:38.25`	`Mikk`	`oops`
`04:38.27`	`Mikk`	`purl, no, framexml is <reply> get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/`
`04:38.31`	`purl`	`okay, Mikk`
`04:38.47`	`Mikk`	`Cryect: I was _suspecting_ that but it's not immediately obvious`
`04:39.11`	`Cryect`	`Mikk: yarr its hard to tell on that data which is me like just grinding`
`04:40.03`	`Mikk`	`And what kind of kool-aid have you been feeding me that makes me see pixelly graphs plotted in a medium that does not support them? o.O`
`04:40.14`	`Cryect`	`Its called WoW!`
`04:40.24`	`Mikk`	`Rotate & stretch textures galore?`
`04:40.29`	`Cryect`	`If that confuses you how about this addon of mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRz2HlUrufw`
`04:40.33`	`Killmore`	`Cryect: monocolorvm2.jpg`
`04:41.51`	`Cryect`	`good good enough have said mono which agreed with me, bicolor look too confusing to myself (though it was the first implementation)`
`04:41.52`	`Mikk`	`mono is a lot more aesthetically pleasing yeah`
`04:42.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`the changelogs on files.wowace.com still have borked up permissions. ><`
`04:42.37`	`Killmore`	`Cryect: whats the addon ?`
`04:43.01`	`Mikk`	`okay.. i think i see how you're stretching textures with that dungeon walker thingy`
`04:43.09`	`Cryect`	`but yeah Mikk, my Graphing Library does all that fun stuff its really just a lot of lines (which there is excellent line drawing code by iriel inside the code)`
`04:43.24`	`Cryect`	`Killmore: Recount`
`04:43.27`	`Mikk`	`but what i REALLY want to know is how the hell you're getting your position inside the instance?`
`04:43.35`	`Cryect`	`Haha my library GPSLib`
`04:43.46`	`Mikk`	`just assuming walk speed full ahead and keep track of direction?`
`04:43.51`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`its a /secret/`
`04:43.55`	`Cryect`	`it uses tricks with the minimap inspecting ping position`
`04:44.10`	`Cryect`	`yeah so secret its up on the wowace with comments describing the method`
`04:44.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well, its not a well kept one, you know?`
`04:44.46`	`Mikk`	`oho.. you can get hold of the ping blip's position? o.O`
`04:44.49`	`Cryect`	`It was well kept enough for 6 or 7 months from the original implementation`
`04:44.53`	`Mikk`	`on-screen position i mean`
`04:45.02`	`Cryect`	`Minimap:getpingposition() or whatever it is`
`04:45.22`	`Mikk`	`ebbeh`
`04:45.33`	`Cryect`	`And getting rotation is just a matter of finding the model that turns`
`04:45.40`	`Mikk`	`but dear lord that's busted`
`04:45.54`	`Mikk`	`Cryect: gogo rotating minimap and not even worry about that? =P`
`04:47.31`	`rronkiv`	`whats the latest version of monkey quest?`
`04:47.42`	`Cryect`	`Now I only wish there was a way to get the minimap texture`
`04:47.52`	`Cryect`	`I should recheck the mini code in 2.1 they might have added something in 2.1`
`04:48.03`	`Cryect`	`due to the rotation that is`
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`04:49.17`	`Mikk`	`hmmmmm now i have to figure out how relative positioning via minimap ping could be abused ....`
`04:49.46`	`Cryect`	`Thats easy`
`04:49.59`	`Cryect`	`Heigan Safety Addon`
`04:50.07`	`Cryect`	`I almost added that to IMBA then figured they would remove it in 2.0`
`04:50.09`	`Cryect`	`so I didn't`
`04:50.59`	Funkeh`	`you still doing imba?`
`04:51.04`	`Cryect`	`not really`
`04:51.23`	`Cryect`	`Haven't seen a boss encounter with anything really interesting to do wiht it`
`04:51.31`	`Cryect`	`and I really want to overhaul it before I did much more`
`04:51.39`	Funkeh`	`heh`
`04:51.45`	`CIA-23`	`03fenlis * r36671 10GlobalStrings/GlobalStrings-2.1.0-koKR.lua:`
`04:51.45`	`CIA-23`	`GlobalStrings :`
`04:51.45`	`CIA-23`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:52.24`	`Cryect`	`I've had to write a bunch of boss addons when they weren't in bigwigs etc but its more like I have 8 bosses all clumped in my nightbane addon`
`04:53.09`	`vhaarr`	`Perhaps you could've helped us out with transcripts instead of keeping the shit to yourself.`
`04:53.44`	`Cryect`	`now if I like the bigwigs coding method I would do them in bigwigs but dislike that style`
`04:54.09`	Funkeh`	`whats wrong with it`
`04:54.17`	`Cryect`	`Nothing I just don't like its style`
`04:54.23`	`vhaarr`	`Why?`
`04:54.27`	`Cryect`	`Its different`
`04:54.42`	`vhaarr`	`From what?`
`04:54.42`	Funkeh`	`hes style i presume`
`04:54.43`	`tsigo`	`IMBA?!`
`04:54.44`	`Cryect`	`right`
`04:54.53`	`vhaarr`	`What's the difference?`
`04:55.48`	`Cryect`	`hehe`
`04:55.49`	`Mikk`	`Wait.. lemme guess.. the backronym is: It's the Mega Boss Addon?`
`04:55.53`	`CIA-23`	`03antiarc 07SplitCache * r36672 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.xml SanityEvents.lua SanityItemTemplate.xml): Sanity2: OnUpdate tweaks for better performance`
`04:56.02`	`Cryect`	`Impervious Boss Addons`
`04:56.03`	`Mikk`	`or It's My Boss Addon?`
`04:56.13`	`Mikk`	`dang =)`
`04:56.24`	`CIA-23`	`03antiarc * r36673 10SanityBags/SanityBags.lua: SanityBags: Fix an error on mod disable`
`04:56.49`	`Mikk`	`vhaarr: good. you ain't getting _my_ breakfast`
`04:56.53`	`art3mis`	`im not sure why i keep watching shin chan`
`04:57.00`	`art3mis`	`but that closing song is damn catchy`
`04:57.08`	`Cryect`	`You hoping it will be good?`
`04:57.12`	`art3mis`	`maybe`
`04:57.18`	`CIA-23`	`03antiarc * r36674 10/branches/SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.lua: SanityItemCache: Rewrote __index on items for much better performance. Fixed scheduling.`
`04:57.19`	`tsigo`	`oh man it's painful`
`04:57.30`	`Cryect`	`I know I did that with Marmalade boy season 2 onwards after liking season 1`
`04:57.44`	`Cryect`	`Now a days I just say screw it if I can't watch a few episodes`
`04:58.39`	`Mikk`	`Yaknow... Prat PlayerNames db size could easily be slashed in a third`
`04:59.10`	Funkeh`	`Cryect: you done leo lately?`
`04:59.24`	`Cryect`	`I was sitting out since I needed to go do stuff`
`04:59.30`	`Cryect`	`was listening to them having fun on vent`
`04:59.38`	Funkeh`	`lol :)`
`04:59.42`	`Cryect`	`5 healers is not a great way to raid SSC I can say btw`
`04:59.59`	`Cryect`	`It kinda worked up to Leo`
`05:00.02`	`Mikk`	`["Lolbubble"] = "PALADIN;60"`
`05:00.06`	Funkeh`	`well my guild spent the last week wiping on al'ar`
`05:00.14`	Funkeh`	`got her to 3% today`
`05:00.29`	Funkeh`	`and im having no chance to test the new bosses, apparently timers are screwed`
`05:00.35`	`Cryect`	`We said screw al'ar till the patch especially avfter hearing the major changes`
`05:00.52`	`Cryect`	`Lurker timers all messed up but wasn't there for that either`
`05:00.56`	Funkeh`	`she enraged at 3% -_-`
`05:01.09`	`Cryect`	`hehe should have killed one more add!`
`05:01.15`	Funkeh`	`yeah :p`
`05:02.46`	`Cryect`	`btw so is the movement during phase 1 more predictable btw?`
`05:02.46`	`tsigo`	`we just got her a few minutes ago`
`05:02.46`	Funkeh`	`clockwise`
`05:02.46`	`tsigo`	`entirely predictable`
`05:02.46`	`Cryect`	`okay so none of this having to have 4 tanks up top anymore`
`05:02.47`	Funkeh`	`the only random thing is quill`
`05:02.47`	`Cryect`	`that was just plain annoying`
`05:02.47`	Funkeh`	`then she chooses a random location after quill`
`05:02.47`	`tsigo`	`it's semi-random when she quills and if she'll go east or west after quill, but that's it`
`05:02.47`	`Cryect`	`well its a random stairwell`
`05:02.47`	Funkeh`	`but after that its clockwise again`
`05:02.47`	`Cryect`	`location`
`05:02.47`	Funkeh`	`but its 4 locations now`
`05:02.47`	Funkeh`	`not 6`
`05:02.47`	`Cryect`	`what do you mean 4 locations?`
`05:02.47`	Funkeh`	`the 4 main platforms`
`05:02.47`	`tsigo`	`west, nw, ne, east`
`05:02.49`	`Cryect`	`oh`
`05:02.51`	Funkeh`	`she used to go to 6`
`05:02.54`	`Cryect`	`they got rid of the front entrance ones?`
`05:02.57`	`Cryect`	`yeah I know`
`05:02.58`	`tsigo`	`yop`
`05:03.00`	Funkeh`	`yeah`
`05:03.10`	`CIA-23`	`03antiarc * r36675 10SanityItemCache/ (4 files): SanityItemCache: Merge dev branch into trunk`
`05:04.46`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`graah. Anyone feel like writing up a lod .sh file for SpecialEventsEmbed?`
`05:05.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`or anyone willing to commit it if I pastey it, as I'm actually feeling productive?`
`05:05.48`	`CIA-23`	`03antiarc * r36676 10Sanity2/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Sanity2: Merge dev branch into trunk. SanityItemCache is now a dependency.`
`05:10.29`	`CIA-23`	`03cryect * r36677 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Now marks areas in combat on the graph window with a red background`
`05:13.30`	`CIA-23`	`03zealotonastick * r36678 10AltClickToAddItem/AltClickToAddItem.toc:`
`05:13.30`	`CIA-23`	`AltClickToAddItem: -`
`05:13.30`	`CIA-23`	`.toc bump to 20100`
`05:19.56`	`CIA-23`	`03funkydude * r36679 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: updated for patch 2.1, please let me know how these timers works out, your transcripts & bigwigs_debugger logs are appreciated`
`05:23.29`	`CIA-23`	`03funkydude * r36680 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: remove redundant message cancellation`
`05:25.09`	`ZealotOnAStick`	Funkeh`: Gruul mod is much better now.
`05:25.27`	Funkeh`	`i didn't do shit all to it`
`05:25.32`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I don't know if it was just the engage trigger being fixes that made all the difference in the world, or if they reverted more stuff with his hotfix today.`
`05:25.45`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Slam timer was very close.`
`05:25.52`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`05:25.55`	Funkeh`	`good`
`05:26.04`	Funkeh`	`that leaves only lurker as the only reported fucked boss then`
`05:26.07`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Silence was ok. He's far more random on reverberation now.`
`05:26.21`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`sometimes he used it right away, sometimes 20 seconds after.`
`05:26.46`	Funkeh`	`reverberation = silence?`
`05:26.54`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`but nothing to be done for it in the mod I don't think. Yes, the aoe silence.`
`05:27.56`	`Mikk`	`more like remove the timer`
`05:28.05`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Nah, it's still useful.`
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`05:28.11`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`You know it's coming soon, then.`
`05:28.16`	`Mikk`	`20 seconds soon? =P`
`05:28.17`	`Thrae`	`Mikk: When are you going to fix Bartender?!`
`05:28.31`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`It was right on sometimes.`
`05:28.37`	`Thrae`	`Your name clearly resembles the original author of Bartender who has since abandoned the project!`
`05:28.42`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`and sometimes he took his time.`
`05:28.45`	`Thrae`	`That gives you full responsibility.`
`05:29.14`	`Mikk`	`~mikk`
`05:29.32`	`purl`	`you are, like, NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied.`
`05:29.32`	`Thrae`	`OK, ok, fine.`
`05:29.44`	`Thrae`	`At LEAST tell me when we'll see the next update to---ah crap, purl pre-empted me.`
`05:30.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hah`
`05:30.02`	`Thrae`	`Anyway...`
`05:30.13`	`Thrae`	`ZealotOnAStick: When can I see a working update to WoWBench?!`
`05:30.18`	`Cryect`	`haha`
`05:30.34`	`Thrae`	`Your name does not resemble the author of WoWBench at all, meaning you must have all the responsibility!`
`05:30.48`	`Mikk`	`I might actually get around to it one of these days`
`05:30.54`	`Mikk`	`Cause now I have to learn secure frames`
`05:31.06`	`Mikk`	`Gonna try n shoehorn a secure frame on top of a dewdrop menu button`
`05:31.23`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Thrae: sometime after I get past my basic dislike of coding.`
`05:31.40`	`Thrae`	`Damn you slackers! How can I suceed in my goal to removing all thought required from the game, putting me into some type of zen state, without constant updates at my beck and call!`
`05:31.47`	`ckknight`	`hey, I gained weight`
`05:32.01`	`ckknight`	`135 lb, hooah`
`05:32.12`	Funkeh`	`grats`
`05:32.23`	`ckknight`	`was 130 lb a few months ago`
`05:32.26`	`Mikk`	`aeurhm`
`05:32.29`	`Thrae`	`You gained 135lbs? What did you do, eat Rosanne Arnold...'s foot?`
`05:32.38`	`ckknight`	`no, I gained 5 lb`
`05:32.41`	`ckknight`	`that's an accomplishment for me`
`05:32.45`	`ckknight`	`I'm still a skinny fuck`
`05:32.52`	`Thrae`	`135lbs is too skiny, seriously.`
`05:32.55`	`Mikk`	`sigh, Thrae was making a funny. and a good one too.`
`05:32.57`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`You're 135? Yeesh. Want to split the difference with me? I'd like to be around 180.`
`05:32.57`	`Thrae`	`How tall are you?`
`05:33.08`	`ckknight`	`somewhere between 5'9" and 5'10" now`
`05:33.16`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Stick.`
`05:33.17`	`ckknight`	`I have a very active metabolism, is all`
`05:33.29`	`Thrae`	`ckknight, no offense...`
`05:33.30`	`ckknight`	`ZealotOnAStick: I'd like to be around 180`
`05:33.32`	`Thrae`	`But I want your blood.`
`05:33.35`	`Thrae`	`Inside me.`
`05:33.35`	`ckknight`	`lol.`
`05:33.57`	`ckknight`	`my mom's side is pretty thin`
`05:34.00`	`Thrae`	`Do you exercise?`
`05:34.01`	`ckknight`	`my dad's side is pretty thick`
`05:34.18`	`ckknight`	`Thrae: no, not really, and yet, I still have freakishly huge biceps`
`05:34.39`	`ckknight`	`part of it is the glories of youth`
`05:34.43`	`ckknight`	`rest of it is good genetics`
`05:34.52`	`Mikk`	`Tbfh anything's gonna look freakish on top of a 135lbs frame =P`
`05:35.12`	`ckknight`	`hang on, lemme take a pic of my bicep`
`05:35.17`	`Mikk`	`No >.<`
`05:35.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ooh, hawt.`
`05:35.29`	`ckknight`	`I know you want this`
`05:35.35`	`Thrae`	`My step-father is 5'8" or so and was around 120lbs.`
`05:35.36`	`Andune`	`cues background pron music`
`05:35.49`	`ckknight`	`Thrae: I probably have about the same frame as him, then`
`05:35.51`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`when will you make with more web funneh?`
`05:35.57`	`ckknight`	`ZealotOnAStick: I really need to`
`05:36.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`man, i spent all day hacking on the perl rewrite of my mod update script and went through all the trouble of disembedding, and now i have no energy or will to actually play`
`05:36.04`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: He's anorexic.`
`05:36.05`	`ckknight`	`ZealotOnAStick: work is taking up most of my energy`
`05:36.14`	`ckknight`	`Thrae: yea, probably the same frame.`
`05:36.16`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`05:36.21`	`ckknight`	`I'm not anorexic, though`
`05:36.24`	`Thrae`	`At one point, he had about 1% body fat.`
`05:36.27`	`ckknight`	`I eat quite a bit`
`05:36.30`	`ckknight`	`ooh, dang`
`05:36.31`	`ckknight`	`that's not good`
`05:36.33`	`ckknight`	`I'm at 8%`
`05:36.40`	`ckknight`	`10-20% is healthy for males, afair`
`05:36.48`	`Thrae`	`I think I'm at 110%, 115% when I'm holding a piece of chicken.`
`05:36.57`	`Mikk`	`hahaha`
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`05:37.30`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`05:37.33`	`Thrae`	`Damn, he must have slipped down a hole in the Internet.`
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`05:37.49`	`Thrae`	`Binary is 1s and 0s, and ckknight is probably skinny enough to slip through those 0s...`
`05:38.09`	`ckknight`	`blast`
`05:38.11`	`Mikk`	`badah-dish`
`05:38.43`	`Thrae`	`I need to start exercising. I have a husky frame, even without the alchohol.`
`05:39.01`	`Thrae`	`My arms are not nearly as big as they could be.`
`05:39.16`	`Mikk`	`Your internets is trying to keep you from exposing your freakishness publicly, ck`
`05:39.34`	`ckknight`	`I's try, masa`
`05:39.40`	`Thrae`	`I read that as "ok".`
`05:40.12`	`Thrae`	`Ugh, it's 1:40am and I'm not tired. That's what I get for only having 3 hours of sleep.`
`05:40.29`	`ckknight`	`here we go: http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo5yc8.jpg`
`05:40.34`	`Mikk`	`Dude it's 7:40 here. WTB [Sleep]`
`05:40.43`	`ckknight`	`7:40 PM here`
`05:40.49`	`ckknight`	`I took a nap this afternoon`
`05:40.57`	`Thrae`	`Did you just get up, Mikk?`
`05:41.05`	`Mikk`	`I wish`
`05:41.15`	`CIA-23`	`03cryect * r36681 10Recount/ (6 files): Recount - Windows are no longer all on the same frame level and will change based on the last selected one`
`05:41.28`	`Mikk`	`My eyes are getting sandy but that's about it`
`05:41.43`	`Thrae`	`How do you go to work like that?`
`05:41.55`	`Mikk`	`Not =P`
`05:42.02`	`Thrae`	`You call in sick?`
`05:42.20`	`Mikk`	`Ohya`
`05:42.33`	`Thrae`	`You must take a lot of sick days.`
`05:42.52`	`Mikk`	`I exhausted my sleeping pill storage :S`
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`05:43.32`	`Thrae`	`You suffer from insomnia, eh?`
`05:43.41`	`Thrae`	`I've always wondered what that felt like.`
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`05:44.02`	`Mikk`	`Type B sleeping patterns ftbloodylose`
`05:44.05`	`Mikk`	`Not exactly insomnia`
`05:44.12`	`Sole`	`good evening`
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`05:44.14`	`Mikk`	`But my body thinks it belongs on Mars or something`
`05:44.23`	`Sole`	`wtf alien`
`05:44.26`	`Mikk`	`A 27 hour day is perfect for me >.<`
`05:44.34`	`Sole`	`>.<`
`05:44.46`	`Thrae`	`Ah, well, there are some people who are like that.`
`05:44.58`	`Thrae`	`Personally, even though I want to sleep more, I function better with 5 hours of sleep per day.`
`05:45.06`	`theoddone33`	`they added a FP at emerald sanctuary in felwood`
`05:45.11`	`theoddone33`	`surprised me quite a bit when I saw it`
`05:45.29`	`Mikk`	`I know. I've been holding off going to felwood with my alt til today =P`
`05:45.53`	`Thrae`	`All my family are light sleepers. I'm the black sheep.`
`05:46.07`	`Thrae`	`I just go into a coma every night, and thankfully wake up in the morning.`
`05:46.29`	`Thrae`	`I usually wake up about 5-30 minutes before my alarm is set to go off.`
`05:46.37`	`Thrae`	`No matter what I set my alarm to.`
`05:46.56`	`Xuerian`	`Wake up? What's this, "Wake up"?`
`05:47.26`	`Thrae`	`You see Xuerian, I go into such a deep state of REM, I can't even remember my dreams most of the time.`
`05:48.08`	`Xuerian`	`Dogs barking five feet away, heavy storms outside, 50mph wind gusts that shake the house, being jumped on by dogs, smell of food, smell of coffee, tv, talking, yelling....Things that don't wake me up.`
`05:48.09`	`Thrae`	`I go through so many levels to get into and out of sleep, my consciousness does not connect enough with my final dream state.`
`05:48.33`	`Xuerian`	`Thrae: I rarely remember my dreams either, and if I do, it's only for about a minute.`
`05:48.40`	`Thrae`	`Xuerian: Same here.`
`05:48.44`	`Thrae`	`We're coma buddies!`
`05:48.51`	`Xuerian`	`Woo!`
`05:48.52`	`Thrae`	`Let's go have psychic visions and use a cane to walk.`
`05:49.09`	`Xuerian`	`Here comes the mooooney`
`05:49.15`	`krka`	`if you have a wife, she would be TCW`
`05:49.16`	`Xuerian`	`>.>`
`05:49.20`	`Xuerian`	`TCW :D`
`05:49.32`	`Thrae`	`TCW?`
`05:49.40`	`Xuerian`	`Another obscure reference :p`
`05:49.48`	`Thrae`	`QED.`
`05:49.58`	`Xuerian`	`Tehe.`
`05:50.48`	`ckknight`	`QFT`
`05:50.50`	`Sedai`	`<#`
`05:50.54`	`Sedai`	`<3 too`
`05:51.00`	`Sedai`	`beer for all!`
`05:51.04`	`ckknight`	`yay!`
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`05:53.39`	`Mikk`	`"Wake up"?`
`05:54.04`	`Mikk`	`Is that the state of not feeling like shit that you enter approximately 3 hours after your 2 first cups of coffee?`
`05:54.14`	`Mikk`	`Unless you've slept well past noon, that is?`
`05:54.36`	`Xuerian`	`My day is ruined if I sleep past 11. I stay foggy.`
`05:54.47`	`Mikk`	`My day is ruined if I have to get up before 11.`
`05:55.02`	`Mikk`	`First thing I do when I retire is burn my alarm clock`
`05:55.07`	`Xuerian`	`Only thing is, if I am not standing, I am not awake, so my human alarmclocks often take my sleep-conversation skills as a sign that I am infact awake`
`05:55.38`	`Xuerian`	`Little do they realize, I'm back in rem in under five seconds XD`
`05:55.51`	`Mikk`	`Oh, I can do that too :>`
`05:56.01`	`rronkiv`	`anyone use musiccommander?`
`05:56.16`	`Mikk`	`Shush, this channel is about sleeping patterns now, not software`
`05:56.42`	`Mikk`	`Actually, poking around in dewdrop made me kinda sleepy i think. Cheers ck =P`
`05:56.50`	`Xuerian`	`'night, Mikk :P`
`05:56.55`	`Mikk`	`gnite =)`
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`05:57.00`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`gtb nub`
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`05:59.01`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, just DCed in the middle of a Karazhan raid...and now my game freezes when I try to log back in. I get one frame...then nothing. Anyone got any ideas? :-(`
`05:59.37`	`Nimble_Rabit`	`is it hot? sounds like classic overheating to me`
`05:59.46`	`Codayus`	`Nope`
`05:59.57`	`Codayus`	`Hm`
`06:00.06`	`Codayus`	`Just the game...not anything else.`
`06:01.41`	`Codayus`	`Arg`
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`06:03.04`	`Nimble_Rabit`	`blow a fan into your computer for me just to be sure, then try again =P`
`06:03.22`	`Nimble_Rabit`	`else disable all your addons and see if that's causing a problem`
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`06:04.55`	`Codayus`	`I can log into OTHER chars.`
`06:05.03`	`Codayus`	`But not my char in Karazhan...um`
`06:05.35`	`Laric`	`well that could be your raid based addons`
`06:05.47`	`Laric`	`as they will most likely not trigger on your other chars`
`06:05.53`	`Sedai`	`takes the best of me to listen`
`06:06.19`	`sylvanaar`	`guys, what do you think we should do about the shaman color?`
`06:06.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`ugh 3425/6000 netherwing rep, wtb more eggs`
`06:06.24`	`Codayus`	`Yes...hm`
`06:06.28`	`NimbleRabit`	`sylvanaar: it's ugly`
`06:06.31`	`Codayus`	`sylvanaar: change it, it's zomg ugly`
`06:06.36`	`sylvanaar`	`before I go change it just for Prat`
`06:06.48`	`sylvanaar`	`we can put it in babble-class instead`
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`06:09.11`	`ckknight`	`sylvanaar: Babble-Class takes from the RAID_ROSTER_COLORS global`
`06:09.24`	`ckknight`	`I don't mind the new blue`
`06:09.38`	`ckknight`	`easier to tell the difference between it and the mage color now`
`06:09.41`	`ckknight`	`which was the point`
`06:10.02`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`make it all rainbowy, with every letter a diff color!`
`06:10.13`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`yea, but it's real short-wavelength now`
`06:10.22`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`lotta ppl will have difficulty seeing it`
`06:10.23`	`nymbia`	`isnt there an addon on the repo that changes the colors?`
`06:10.54`	`sylvanaar`	`ckknight i know, its too dark against black`
`06:11.24`	`sylvanaar`	`ckknight i dont want to change the global color tho`
`06:11.35`	`sylvanaar`	`babble seemed a happy medium`
`06:12.05`	`ckknight`	`sedatedChipmunk: people with colorblindness, you mean?`
`06:12.34`	`ckknight`	`I'm not sure... perhaps`
`06:12.47`	`ckknight`	`I don't know a better color, though`
`06:12.50`	`NimbleRabit`	`I have trouble looking at black text on such a dark blue`
`06:13.15`	`ckknight`	`PitBull is configurable in that regard, at least (all class colors can be changed arbitrarily)`
`06:14.21`	`NimbleRabit`	`good to hear`
`06:15.09`	`Diao`	`is there any way to autoenable the blizzard equipcompare?`
`06:15.13`	`Diao`	`without needing to hold shift down`
`06:15.18`	`nymbia`	`2200... almost up to netherdrakes :D`
`06:15.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`2200 of 6000?`
`06:15.39`	`Diao`	`i like how it works with statstain and stuff`
`06:15.45`	`nymbia`	`2200 rating`
`06:15.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh`
`06:15.54`	`nymbia`	`so we're like 16th`
`06:15.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`armored netherdrake`
`06:15.58`	`NimbleRabit`	`I want to get it with my 2v2`
`06:16.04`	`NimbleRabit`	`but it's so hard`
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`06:22.10`	`CIA-23`	`03xuerian * r36682 10XLoot/XLootRowTools.lua: XLoot: Oh yeah. Let's also do that shift-compare thing for monitor/group. tards r us.`
`06:23.27`	`nymbia`	`Xuerian: SERIOUSLY`
`06:24.14`	`Xuerian`	`nymbia: craisin assmuffins.`
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`06:28.13`	`Sole`	`I hate networking`
`06:28.21`	`Sole`	`my other comp is being a fag`
`06:28.53`	`Sole`	`I set it up to automatically detect IP/dns settings and it detects some random clusterfuck IP instead of 10.1.1.* like its supposed to`
`06:29.05`	`Sole`	`setting it up manually doesnt help much either`
`06:29.56`	`Loki\|muh`	`so check the network cable and the switch port?`
`06:30.24`	`Sole`	`the cable is fine`
`06:31.45`	`CIA-23`	`03rabbit * r36683 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua BuffWindow.lua): BigBrother: Use SE-Aura to detect misdirection.`
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`06:35.55`	`Diao`	`square minimap + minimap rotation enabled looks really funny`
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`06:40.55`	`rronkiv`	`does anyone use musiccommander or musicplayer?`
`06:42.01`	`Elkano_`	`sole, what 'random' IP? 169.?.?.?`
`06:42.53`	`ilifin`	`if you're getting 169.* IPs, Sole, your cable is broken and/or you don't have a DHCP server that deals out IPs on your network`
`06:46.22`	`NimbleRabit`	`So I'm about to try and delve into addons (learn to make them). Is the WelcomeHome, your first Ace addon the best place to start?`
`06:47.59`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`06:49.16`	`Elkano_`	ping(Funkeh`); beat(Funkeh`);
`06:49.24`	Funkeh`	`??`
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`06:49.39`	`Elkano_`	`why id you push TOC :/`
`06:50.03`	Funkeh`	`eh?`
`06:50.21`	`Elkano_`	`for EBBs`
`06:50.36`	Funkeh`	`why not?`
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`06:53.13`	`Elkano_`	`well, my intention was to push toc aafter having tried it myself on 2.1 :/`
`06:53.14`	`CIA-23`	`03cryect * r36684 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Changed filtering window`
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`06:54.05`	`Iceroth`	`don't worry, works jsut fine ;)`
`06:54.10`	Funkeh`	`apologies then Elkano_, i did it for all my mods that i new would work`
`06:54.18`	`sylvanaar`	`ok how about 70a5ff`
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`06:54.49`	`sylvanaar`	`thats the bliz shaman color + 30% brighness increase`
`06:55.12`	`sylvanaar`	`mage is 68ccef`
`06:55.31`	`nymbia`	`seriously the brightness is way too low`
`06:55.32`	`Iceroth`	`why did they make shemans so dark?`
`06:56.00`	`Elkano_`	`well, by now I know of at least one 2.1 bug in EBBs... wonder when I'm able to distribute the fix :/ it sucks to have a broken pc`
`06:56.59`	`sylvanaar`	`nah it looks too similar again`
`06:57.16`	`CIA-23`	`03funkydude * r36685 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: BigWigs: SC/Lurker: complete rewrite for 2.1 Lurker, probably won't even work or will just explode your computer, feedback please :)`
`06:57.29`	`sylvanaar`	`how about 8080ff`
`06:59.42`	`Codayus`	`Frankly, I never had any trouble telling mages and shamans apart....`
`07:00.01`	`NimbleRabit`	`I did`
`07:00.04`	`NimbleRabit`	`don't make them That similar`
`07:00.05`	`NimbleRabit`	`=/`
`07:00.26`	`Iceroth`	`same here, dunno if it's my monitor or what, can't seem to find The Perfect color settings`
`07:00.29`	`CIA-23`	`03sylvanaar * r36686 10Prat/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Prat: For now, replace the shaman color with 8080FF`
`07:00.38`	`NimbleRabit`	`why does it have to be blue`
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`07:01.36`	`Codayus`	`Hmmm`
`07:01.38`	`sylvanaar`	`so that it looks like the blizzard ones`
`07:01.49`	`sylvanaar`	`which will be used everywhere else`
`07:02.04`	`NimbleRabit`	`no I meant why does blizzard want it to be blue`
`07:02.13`	`NimbleRabit`	`it seems like perhaps a variaton of green would be better`
`07:02.17`	`NimbleRabit`	`or something else, dunno`
`07:02.22`	`Iceroth`	`pink was taken?)`
`07:02.34`	`Codayus`	`Hmm`
`07:02.34`	`sylvanaar`	`they dont color text on the chatframe - so i dont think they considered it agains a black background`
`07:03.06`	`sylvanaar`	`no thats stupid`
`07:03.42`	`sylvanaar`	`i cant recall what normal frames look like`
`07:03.57`	`NimbleRabit`	`neither can I lol`
`07:04.42`	`[dRaCo]`	`the default background is dark grey`
`07:04.43`	`sylvanaar`	`meh, well that color i used is between mage and warlock`
`07:04.47`	`[dRaCo]`	`when you hover it`
`07:05.15`	`CIA-23`	`03jerry * r36687 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_enUS.lua: Talented_Data: Updated enUS talents`
`07:05.16`	`rronkiv`	`is it possible for a addon to control winamp?`
`07:05.29`	Punkie`	`no`
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`07:06.15`	`vhaarr`	`It's possible on Mac :P`
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`07:06.45`	Punkie`	`hehe, it was awesome when you could control winamp though`
`07:07.21`	`Hwg`	`any1 able to help a complete noob?`
`07:07.42`	`Iceroth`	`1+1 = 2`
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`07:07.46`	`Iceroth`	`ok?`
`07:07.53`	`CIA-23`	`03jerry * r36688 10GridAlert/GridAlert.lua: GridAlert: bugfixes`
`07:08.06`	`Hwg`	`i thought 1+1= a window?`
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`07:08.16`	`sylvanaar`	`i think that that 64 is the minimum contrast between the foreground and background`
`07:08.24`	`ckknight`	`Iceroth: wait, I'm confused.`
`07:09.04`	`ckknight`	`Iceroth: the answer's 10, I'm sure of it`
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`07:09.10`	`CIA-23`	`03jerry * r36689 10GridAlert/locales/enUS.lua: GridAlert: add missing localized string`
`07:09.38`	Funkeh`	`oh ffs`
`07:09.42`	`NimbleRabit`	`Hwg: people prefer if you jsut ask your question =P`
`07:09.45`	Funkeh`	`files script crashed again`
`07:10.28`	`andross_`	`fuck... in the middle of a raid and i've got some softlock on login`
`07:10.45`	`sylvanaar`	`the bliz shaman color is 2359ff`
`07:11.11`	`Hwg`	`ok`
`07:11.39`	Punkie`	`so did anyone get uberbuffed from the patch? ^^`
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`07:11.47`	`NimbleRabit`	`so much`
`07:11.48`	`NimbleRabit`	`buffage`
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`07:12.02`	Punkie`	`yup`
`07:12.15`	`NimbleRabit`	`rogues got the most love this patch for sure =D`
`07:12.42`	Punkie`	`well, my netherblade shoulders are now pro :>`
`07:12.43`	`Hwg`	`Well as we all know new updatecame out on wow europe servers yesterday since then I cant seem to get of my ACE2 addons working and im having issues using ur update program so help`
`07:13.02`	`evl`	`my head :(`
`07:13.05`	`NimbleRabit`	`you need to get wow ace updater 1.8`
`07:13.05`	`NimbleRabit`	`http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater`
`07:13.14`	`evl`	`I try to tell myself I should stop going out on weekdays`
`07:13.22`	`Hwg`	`ok and where do i install it to`
`07:13.28`	`NimbleRabit`	`anywhere on your computer`
`07:13.37`	`Dynom`	`NightHawkTheSane: remember, down the road, not across the street`
`07:13.40`	Punkie`	`evl: you saw my hit rating last night?`
`07:13.52`	`evl`	`no, i was busy getting hammered`
`07:13.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Dynom: fortunately, I do read s*p, so I know what to do! :D`
`07:14.28`	Punkie`	`evl: nah, when i showed you it :p`
`07:14.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmm. VendettaOnline, ff8, or wow.`
`07:14.35`	`evl`	Punkie`: yeah
`07:14.35`	`sylvanaar`	`you can get 649aff if you apply the base contrast rule /shrug`
`07:14.44`	`harldephin`	`NightHawkTheSane: FF8`
`07:14.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`harldephin: yeah, i'm thinking that.`
`07:14.58`	Punkie`	`evl: it doubled now :p`
`07:15.08`	`evl`	Punkie`: good to hear!
`07:15.31`	Punkie`	`romulo's poison vial ftw`
`07:15.43`	`evl`	`I just have to do 5 more arena games and I'l hop over to your server`
`07:16.23`	`evl`	`since I'm so nice I'll give away some points"!`
`07:16.34`	Punkie`	`:o`
`07:17.03`	Punkie`	`oh yeah, you had better be there tonight, i need 'the meta gem' ;D`
`07:17.19`	`evl`	`got it!`
`07:17.35`	Punkie`	`awesome, save you 1h cooldown!`
`07:17.37`	Punkie`	`:P`
`07:18.28`	`evl`	`it was removed`
`07:18.28`	`evl`	`:)`
`07:19.06`	`evl`	`So in essence you have to obtain both vials from Vashj and Kael'thas to move into Hyjal and kill Winterchill to then be able to enter Black Temple.`
`07:19.09`	`evl`	`Wow, that's easy!`
`07:19.09`	`evl`	`:D`
`07:19.55`	`Iceroth`	`wait, didn't you read the dev chat? they explicitely said they do NOT want to make content that noone can access`
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`07:20.38`	`nymbia`	`what lod stubs are floating around`
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`07:20.44`	`nymbia`	`other than s&d`
`07:20.45`	`sylvanaar`	`hwg uzip to your wow folder and run`
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`07:21.16`	Punkie`	`nymbia: i can't think of any other`
`07:21.46`	`sylvanaar`	`stubby`
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`07:22.24`	`Iceroth`	`has anyone made a tool to check what addons you have in your interface/addons dir and then delete leftover saved varbiales from the account/ folder that are no longer needed?`
`07:22.36`	`evl`	`I've gotten a heap of wierd shit after 2.1`
`07:22.43`	`nymbia`	`sylvanaar: that's norganna's right? any idea where the documentation is?`
`07:23.00`	`evl`	`1) Half the times I log in I have no TextStrings in PitBull 2) Half my /reloadui crashes wow in a #132`
`07:23.43`	`sylvanaar`	`in the source`
`07:24.45`	`sylvanaar`	`its sorta complex`
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`07:25.00`	`Fisker-`	`Any guilds here taken magtheridon?`
`07:25.04`	`Elkano_`	`btw: anyone tried if ItemDB still works on 2.1?`
`07:25.22`	`Iceroth`	`oh btw, any arkinventory users? i had missing tooltips from items in my bank yesterday, couldn't find any patternt and when i moved them to my bags, tooltips worked just fine`
`07:25.43`	`rronkiv`	`WOW just went down hardcore.`
`07:26.22`	`Fisker-`	`i wanna ask here if any guilds have done magtheridon, if so, how long it took you to take him down(i.e. hours over how many raid days) and what you're at now`
`07:26.30`	`sylvanaar`	`I think i already tries LoadWith: Ace2, i should try it again though`
`07:26.44`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I got his Eye tonight.`
`07:26.53`	`NimbleRabit`	`if I change the author in the .toc file do I need to reload wow? A /reloadui isn't working`
`07:27.02`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Took us about 2 good solid nights of trying to drop him the first time.`
`07:27.02`	`nymbia`	`ZealotOnAStick: ew, i bet it smells`
`07:27.25`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`First time we did it, was back when it took 4 groups of 5 to click the cubes, before they nerfed mind exhaustion.`
`07:27.25`	`Iceroth`	`we've been wiping on him for 2-3 nights pre-patch`
`07:27.41`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Well, the channelers have less health, so does the trash.`
`07:27.51`	`CIA-23`	`03sayclub * r36690 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:`
`07:27.51`	`CIA-23`	`Babble-2.2:`
`07:27.51`	`CIA-23`	`- Babble-Spell-2.2 : Updated localization deDE`
`07:27.55`	`Iceroth`	`haven't tried him now yet`
`07:28.00`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Some graphics for the quake effects are different, otherwise pretty much the same fight as before patch`
`07:28.05`	`Kaydeethree`	`the trash are a joke, the channelers are easier but we had a bad group makeup tonight`
`07:28.14`	`Kaydeethree`	`so we went to the bugged-as-hell gruul`
`07:28.20`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`nymbia: well, I did over 17 Heroic Slave Pens runs, and I never got Quagmirran's Eye.`
`07:28.27`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Gruul has been hotfixed.`
`07:28.29`	`Fisker-`	`Iceroth what are you guildprogress wise? and you zealot?`
`07:28.33`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`he's a pushover again.`
`07:28.44`	`sylvanaar`	`zomg it worked`
`07:28.46`	`Iceroth`	`we are farming gruul and that's about it`
`07:28.52`	`Kaydeethree`	`after we killed him, most likely. tonight was our first time wiping since we put him on farm a month ago`
`07:28.57`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`We're halfway though SSC, and we've killed Void Reaver and played with Solarian a bit.`
`07:29.13`	`Iceroth`	`no serious attempts beoynd that, some are not even attuned to SSC yet`
`07:29.21`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`We should add Lurker this week, and maybe Leotheras to our kill list. Well if Memorial Day doesn't fuck attendance.`
`07:29.27`	`Iceroth`	`and very few are attuned to the eye`
`07:29.54`	`sylvanaar`	`YES!!!`
`07:29.57`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Out of curiosity, why did you ask, Fisker?`
`07:30.04`	`sylvanaar`	`it works!!`
`07:30.16`	`Fisker-`	`so Kaydeethree how long do you reckon it took you to kill mag?`
`07:30.18`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`sylvanaar: gratz! What?`
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`07:31.09`	`Kaydeethree`	`once we stopped being stupid on the trash, it probably took us ~12 hours over 3 raid nights to get him down. he's still not on farm, it usually takes us an hour or so to kill him every week`
`07:31.17`	`Fisker-`	`alright`
`07:31.20`	`CIA-23`	`03sylvanaar * r36691 10Prat/ (Prat.toc Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua):`
`07:31.20`	`CIA-23`	`Prat: ## LoadsWith: Ace2`
`07:31.20`	`CIA-23`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:32.15`	`CIA-23`	`03jncl * r36692 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Fixed AtlasLoot Headings; Fixed PVPTeamDetails; Fixed QuestLog`
`07:33.41`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Ours was probably about 6-7 hours over two raid nights. Then we went braindead for 2 weeks, but I'd call him back on farm for us now.`
`07:33.57`	`Fisker-`	`alright`
`07:34.16`	`Fisker-`	`Some guy is telling us we're doing poorly because it took us a bit over 12 hours to kill him`
`07:34.30`	`Fisker-`	`so i'm running my own little bullshit-experiment!`
`07:35.16`	`sylvanaar`	`i finally have my "just load me if enabled" stub`
`07:35.28`	`Boubouille`	`Fisker- : lol you suck !`
`07:36.23`	`Fisker-`	`omg noes :o`
`07:36.25`	`Diao`	`ok`
`07:36.28`	`Fisker-`	`got some more data i can use Boubouille?`
`07:36.36`	`Diao`	`where's the best place to farm scryer and/or aldor rep?`
`07:36.38`	`Iceroth`	`heh, i doubt 12h is going to be enough for us..`
`07:36.43`	`Boubouille`	`Fisker- : not for the moment, but we're gathering !`
`07:37.00`	`Iceroth`	`but we are kinda far from HC raiding`
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`07:39.23`	`sylvanaar`	`its not quite the LoadsWith: Client i was after, but its close enough.`
`07:39.46`	`Fisker-`	`so Kaydeethree how many days did it aproximately take you to kill magtheridon?`
`07:39.58`	`Kaydeethree`	`3 raid nights once we got serious`
`07:40.24`	`Fisker-`	`doh and how far were you again?`
`07:40.26`	`Fisker-`	`raidwise`
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`07:40.46`	`Kaydeethree`	`we were on track to kill hydross last week before we had a tank and some dps burn out`
`07:40.54`	`Fisker-`	`ah ok`
`07:41.18`	`Diao`	`hm`
`07:41.38`	`Diao`	`any way to "hide plugin" for atlasloot on fubar`
`07:41.43`	`Diao`	`?`
`07:43.01`	`NimbleRabit`	`atlasloot...`
`07:43.13`	`CIA-23`	`03roartindon * r36693 10nQuestLog/modules/DetailsFrame.lua: nQuestLog: Added local level to AddLeaderboardToCategory to fix errors on detail frame`
`07:46.52`	`Elkano_`	`Diao, since the author most likely failed ace I don't think so`
`07:48.06`	`CIA-23`	`03pettigrow * r36694 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 2 dirs):`
`07:48.07`	`CIA-23`	`BigWigs:`
`07:48.07`	`CIA-23`	`- TheEye: frFR Update`
`07:48.07`	`CIA-23`	`- Karazhan: frFR Update`
`07:49.00`	`Diao`	`:(`
`07:49.47`	`sylvanaar`	`does anyone know if the bug in glory has been confirmed fixed?`
`07:54.09`	`CIA-23`	`03evl * r36695 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua:`
`07:54.09`	`CIA-23`	`PitBull`
`07:54.09`	`CIA-23`	`- Use UnitManaMax instead of the static value 100 to check if player is at maximum energy`
`07:55.26`	`Diao`	`hmm`
`07:55.38`	`Diao`	`nymbia is the flight timer built into quartz now or is it because i have some other addon doing it`
`07:55.55`	`nymbia`	`it mooches offa inflight or flightmap`
`07:56.09`	`Diao`	`ahh ok`
`07:56.22`	`Diao`	`hm`
`07:56.29`	`Diao`	`i wonder if inflight has an option to hide its own timer`
`07:56.33`	`Diao`	`quartz one looks nicer lol`
`07:56.35`	`kergoth`	`nymbia, acts a bit oddly if you fly a route you've never been on before, pops up, th en vanishes :) since its timing the flight`
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`07:57.13`	`nymbia`	`yeah, it sends a time of 1 or something.. just needs exceptions for some of the fringe cases :)`
`07:58.52`	`sylvanaar`	`wow lol files is behind`
`07:59.15`	`CIA-23`	`03evl * r36696 10kEnergy/ (. Textures/transparent.tga addon.lua kEnergy.toc):`
`07:59.15`	`CIA-23`	`kEnergy`
`07:59.15`	`CIA-23`	`- Bump to 20100`
`07:59.16`	`CIA-23`	`- Add transparent texture if you only want to display the spark`
`07:59.19`	`nymbia`	`script stopped or somethin sylvanaar`
`08:00.39`	`sylvanaar`	`darn, i want to post something to curse and ui.wow`
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`08:01.56`	`CIA-23`	`03sylvanaar 072.0 * r36697 10Prat/: Prat: Tag 2.0 release`
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`08:03.04`	`CIA-23`	`03cryect * r36698 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Recount.lua Recount.toc): Recount - Adds KTM threat to recorded if KTM is running and data exists. Some various issues with the data being displayed though at the moment.`
`08:04.06`	Punkie`	`evl: transparent graphic ftw :>`
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`08:05.46`	Funkeh`	`later`
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`08:13.28`	`CIA-23`	`03ominous * r36699 10ClassTimer/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ClassTimer: Added new koKR, some move changes`
`08:17.00`	`CIA-23`	`03ominous * r36700 10ClassTimer/Core.lua: ClassTimer: update core revision`
`08:20.15`	`CIA-23`	`03next96 * r36701 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-koKR.lua:`
`08:20.15`	`CIA-23`	`FuBar_BagFu :`
`08:20.15`	`CIA-23`	`- Update locale koKR`
`08:20.21`	`CIA-23`	`03rabbit * r36702 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: BigWigs: Lurker: Funk, please stop it with the syntax errors.`
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`08:22.15`	`[Ammo]`	`morning girls`
`08:22.40`	`Ominous`	`morning,`
`08:22.41`	`vhaarr`	`morning`
`08:22.55`	`CIA-23`	`03sylvanaar * r36703 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: Update toc references`
`08:23.39`	`nymbia`	Funkeh`: TERRIBLE
`08:23.41`	`evl`	`Seriously, that Litestep texture in PitBull almost made me barf all over my laptop`
`08:23.50`	`Ominous`	`rofl`
`08:23.52`	Funkeh`	`nymbia: :(`
`08:24.38`	`CIA-23`	`03next96 * r36704 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ExperienceFuLocals-koKR.lua:`
`08:24.38`	`CIA-23`	`FuBar_ExperienceFu :`
`08:24.38`	`CIA-23`	`- Update locale koKR`
`08:27.24`	`CIA-23`	`03funkydude * r36705 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.toc: FuBar_GuildFu: toc 20100`
`08:27.56`	`sylvanaar`	`anyone around with mod on the forums?`
`08:27.59`	`Elkano_`	Funkeh`: ....
`08:28.29`	`Ominous`	`sylvanaar: vhaarr or ammo maybe`
`08:28.35`	`Silviu-`	Funkeh` , Fubar_VolumeFu, Metrognome
`08:28.37`	`Elkano_`	`would you mind to keep your hands from my addons wrt toc pushes :/`
`08:28.48`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: We only mod the raid forums.`
`08:29.04`	`Silviu-`	`Need a toc change`
`08:29.05`	Funkeh`	`Elkano_: forums fill with posts of bitchin, don't take too long doing it -_-`
`08:29.13`	`sylvanaar`	`you mean you dont have mod? or you dont mod`
`08:29.32`	Punkie`	`sylvanaar: they have mod, but only for the raid forums`
`08:29.45`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: There's no difference.`
`08:29.56`	`sylvanaar`	`ok, i need to find someone to lock my old prat thread`
`08:30.03`	`Ominous`	`you can`
`08:30.05`	`Ominous`	`if you made it`
`08:30.22`	`sylvanaar`	`i can? do i click my heels 3 times`
`08:30.29`	`CIA-23`	`03funkydude * r36706 10Metrognome/ (. Metrognome.toc): Metrognome: toc 20100`
`08:30.36`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`sylvanaar: watcha need?`
`08:31.07`	`sylvanaar`	`i think i locked it myself`
`08:31.26`	`CIA-23`	`03funkydude * r36707 10FuBar_VolumeFu/FuBar_VolumeFu.toc: FuBar_VolumeFu: toc 20100`
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`08:31.31`	`evl`	`Has anyone done the Netherwing mount grind yet?`
`08:31.33`	Funkeh`	`Silviu-: ^^_`
`08:31.35`	`sylvanaar`	`i wanted the old prat thread locked, but i guess i can do it afterall`
`08:31.37`	`abbat_w`	`btw`
`08:31.43`	`Silviu-`	Funkeh` thx :)
`08:31.56`	`Silviu-`	`Damn now i need to read all the wow forums`
`08:32.00`	`abbat_w`	`i fly on nether at Shatrath yesterday`
`08:32.04`	`Silviu-`	`To find a "solution" to all those 132 crashes`
`08:32.23`	Funkeh`	`i heard stories about 132 crashes caused by overheating`
`08:32.24`	`abbat_w`	`I leave island in ShadowMoon, but my duff won't fade`
`08:32.30`	`abbat_w`	`And dragon left with me ;)`
`08:32.48`	`abbat_w`	`I can fly on Outland on netherwing dragon`
`08:32.50`	`Elkano_`	Funkeh`: 1. linkz or it didn't happen; 2. stupid people suck; 3. my pc is broken...
`08:32.58`	`evl`	`I've gotten tons of 132 aswell`
`08:33.09`	Funkeh`	`agreed on 2:P`
`08:33.17`	`Fisker-`	`anyone else taken magtheridon btw?`
`08:33.24`	`evl`	`Yeah, a friend did yesterday`
`08:33.27`	Funkeh`	`not since the patch`
`08:33.27`	`evl`	`Want infos?`
`08:34.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`wtf when are daily quests suppost to reset?`
`08:34.21`	Funkeh`	`when honour updates?`
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`08:34.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`the tooltip now doesnt have a time for when theyll reset`
`08:34.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`should have 30 minutes ago on my server`
`08:35.03`	`evl`	`It's a feature`
`08:35.06`	`evl`	`Blame Osama Bin Laden`
`08:35.08`	`evl`	`HE'S ALIVE`
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`08:35.48`	Funkeh`	`humping your mom`
`08:39.04`	`abbat_w`	`and fubar_honorfu totally broken ;(`
`08:39.10`	`abbat_w`	`and Glory 2.0 too`
`08:39.22`	Funkeh`	`get nymbia to fix it`
`08:39.49`	`nymbia`	`flee`
`08:39.53`	`abbat_w`	`:)`
`08:39.54`	`nymbia`	`~flee rather`
`08:40.15`	`nymbia`	`>.<`
`08:40.15`	`nymbia`	`damn push-to-talk key`
`08:40.16`	`nymbia`	`in conclusion`
`08:40.18`	`nymbia`	`~flee`
`08:40.30`	`purl`	`ACTION runs away screaming`
`08:40.52`	Punkie`	`no! nymbia has better things to do! ;D`
`08:41.11`	`nymbia`	like not work on Punkie` 's feature requests!
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`08:41.34`	Punkie`	`oh plx plx :<`
`08:41.53`	Funkeh`	`do it for the gnoem lovin`
`08:42.05`	Punkie`	`woo!`
`08:44.04`	`abbat_w`	`and btw`
`08:44.09`	`Fisker-`	`indeed evl`
`08:44.13`	`abbat_w`	`GridAliert with sounds is nice`
`08:44.19`	`abbat_w`	`gridalert`
`08:44.21`	`Fisker-`	and Funkeh` how many raids/hours did it take you to down him?
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`08:44.31`	Funkeh`	`not many`
`08:44.37`	`Fisker-`	`aprox?`
`08:44.38`	Funkeh`	`spent more time hoping for warlocks ot be online`
`08:44.42`	`Fisker-`	`hehe`
`08:44.53`	Funkeh`	`3 days i think`
`08:44.55`	`GE-Jitte`	`Question, is it possible to get change UI Scale to less then 0.64 in some way?`
`08:45.15`	Funkeh`	`not that im aware of`
`08:45.17`	`Fisker-`	`we took him first time with 2 warlocks if i remember correctly :P`
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`08:46.06`	`Fisker-`	`btw sylvanaar`
`08:46.10`	`Silviu-`	`On de forums i found a post by a gm, about 132 errors, open Config.wtf and delete SET baseMip "1".`
`08:46.37`	`Fisker-`	`When checking for a new version instead of popping a dialog box with "New version available" do a "New version available (OK) (Take me to the download site)"`
`08:46.45`	`Silviu-`	`What is that setting actually do ? ;)`
`08:47.00`	`Fisker-`	`I'd rather not screw up your stuff by converting your project to orcas :P`
`08:47.13`	Funkeh`	`Silviu-: search me`
`08:47.29`	`Ominous`	`sylvanaar: ntroduction should be introduction probabilly in start of new prat thread`
`08:47.34`	`Silviu-`	Well i`ll try like so, let`s see if i get more errors :)
`08:47.43`	`Silviu-`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=287013935&sid=3&pageNo=1`
`08:47.52`	`Silviu-`	`In case anyone wants to look ( german ) ;)`
`08:49.07`	Funkeh`	`seems like people sitll have the problem after doing that`
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`08:49.30`	Funkeh`	`wierd i don't ahve that setting in my config folder`
`08:50.04`	`Silviu-`	`I had it`
`08:50.07`	Punkie`	`nymbia: everyone loves dreamlayout btw! hint hint :D`
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`08:50.16`	`abbat_w`	`i don't`
`08:50.41`	`Diao`	`lol`
`08:50.43`	`abbat_w`	`can't play with BT3 + dreamlayout ;)`
`08:51.03`	Punkie`	`why on earth not?!`
`08:51.16`	`[Ammo]`	`zoomed ftw`
`08:51.26`	Punkie`	`zoomed looks fugly`
`08:51.30`	`abbat_w`	`I like cyCircled glossy onyx`
`08:51.36`	Punkie`	`all your buttons squished in`
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`08:51.53`	`abbat_w`	`standard ui ok i think too`
`08:52.02`	`abbat_w`	`but onyx > all ;)`
`08:52.06`	Punkie`	`nah`
`08:52.26`	Punkie`	`my ui has very few buttons, but dreamlayout makes them aweshum`
`08:52.39`	`[Ammo]`	`I have 70 on screen or so`
`08:52.46`	`[Ammo]`	`set to smal and zoomed`
`08:52.54`	Punkie`	`link your fugly ui ammo`
`08:52.58`	`[Ammo]`	`can't`
`08:53.01`	`[Ammo]`	`it's secrut`
`08:53.08`	Punkie`	`you are ashamed`
`08:53.18`	Funkeh`	`later`
`08:53.21`	`[Ammo]`	`and it shows my KLHTM, DMM, SWS, RDX, and CT in full glory`
`08:53.30`	`[Ammo]`	`with a viewport of 300x300 in which I play`
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`08:54.22`	Punkie`	`you forgot the whole nurfedUI too`
`08:54.22`	`[Ammo]`	`I just mentioned the highlights`
`08:54.27`	Punkie`	`aha`
`08:54.34`	`Elkano_`	`Silviu-: the "thanks for the data. btw: you have a trojan" post made my giggle ^^`
`08:54.48`	Punkie`	`just as well your home computer can cope with a 200mb+ addon list`
`08:55.30`	`[Ammo]`	`not quite, but wow can be played at 3 fps just fine`
`08:55.32`	`CIA-23`	`03dandelion * r36708 10ComboSounds/ (31 files in 2 dirs):`
`08:55.32`	`CIA-23`	`ComboSounds: initial commit`
`08:55.32`	`CIA-23`	`- Plays sounds when combo-point abilities are ready.`
`08:55.56`	`Ominous`	`31 files :O`
`08:56.27`	`Ominous`	`is svn.wowace down?`
`08:56.45`	`Ominous`	`dw im internet is screwwed`
`08:57.28`	`dandelion`	`lots of sound files`
`08:57.31`	`Ominous`	`ah`
`08:57.42`	`Ominous`	`ah svn.wowace has stopped syncing agian`
`08:58.45`	`abbat_w`	`Ahah ;)`
`08:58.53`	`Fisker-`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=286784274&postId=2865504766&sid=1#0`
`08:58.54`	`Fisker-`	`i was bored`
`08:59.23`	`abbat_w`	`Ammo warlock ;) I thin all locks have ui looks like cockpit in airplane`
`09:00.51`	`Loki\|muh`	`Fisker-: lol`
`09:03.58`	`abbat_w`	`btw`
`09:04.21`	`abbat_w`	`squeenix need circle mask now. and rotation minimap should work ok`
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`09:10.39`	`CIA-23`	`03daviesh * r36709 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 6 dirs):`
`09:10.39`	`CIA-23`	`AtlasLoot:`
`09:10.39`	`CIA-23`	`- Partial French support`
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`09:15.37`	`ckknight`	`down with France!`
`09:16.28`	`abbat_w`	`ckk!`
`09:17.56`	`Neebler`	`woah there, since when did atlasloot become ace`
`09:18.19`	`[Ammo]`	`it did not`
`09:18.23`	`ckknight`	`it didn't`
`09:18.26`	`Elkano_`	`since France is a great country`
`09:18.29`	`wobin_`	`it is?`
`09:18.35`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna sleep now`
`09:18.35`	`ckknight`	`Elkano_: lies`
`09:18.39`	`[Ammo]`	`it has a fuplugin`
`09:18.41`	`[Ammo]`	`that's all`
`09:18.53`	`[Ammo]`	`the code is still a mess and full of crap`
`09:19.05`	`Elkano_`	`ck, y?`
`09:19.29`	`Elkano_`	`is france great? no... is AL aced? no... so what's the problem?`
`09:21.09`	`CIA-23`	`03dandelion * r36710 10ComboSounds/ (11 files in 2 dirs):`
`09:21.09`	`CIA-23`	`ComboSounds:`
`09:21.10`	`CIA-23`	`- first commit (plus deleted obsolete sound set)`
`09:21.22`	`dandelion`	`31 files was a few too many >>`
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`09:22.54`	`[Ammo]`	`dandelion: you are registering them with shared media I hope?`
`09:23.25`	`dandelion`	`almost positive i'm not. where can i find out more about "shared media"/`
`09:23.44`	`[Ammo]`	`sharedmedialib`
`09:23.49`	`[Ammo]`	`documentation is up on wiki`
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`09:26.49`	`dandelion`	`is there an immediate need for it if the files aren't currently shared between addons?`
`09:27.31`	`[Ammo]`	`the point of registering em is they can be shared :)`
`09:28.27`	`Elkano_`	`since they are there when your ddon is installed, why not allow others to easily know about them in order to have them use them`
`09:28.58`	`dandelion`	`sure, i'll register them, just wanted to make sure there wasn't some other reason to do so`
`09:29.32`	`abbat_w`	`ckk, btw i found smaaaal bug (or maybe feature) in PitBull auras module. If i turn on timers and already have ice armor buff for example and rebuff it, aura timer not update. If i buff self with some new buff, PitBull update timer for ice armor and show new buff`
`09:30.36`	`Iceroth`	`dandelion, your users can also benefit from the files other addons have registered`
`09:32.33`	`dandelion`	`alrighty`
`09:32.41`	`nymbia`	`abbat_w: UNIT_AURA doesn't fire unless the number of stacks changes. thank blizzard.`
`09:32.53`	`abbat_w`	`wait`
`09:33.00`	`abbat_w`	`but Buffalo update timer ;)`
`09:33.03`	`abbat_w`	`if i rebuff it`
`09:33.27`	`nymbia`	`it updates the timers constantly`
`09:33.35`	`nymbia`	`whereas pitbull needs to rely on cached values`
`09:33.37`	`abbat_w`	`ah`
`09:33.40`	`nymbia`	`for non-player units`
`09:33.48`	`Elkano_`	`abbat_w: I'd still say Blizzard's fault for not firering events on rebuff :/`
`09:34.18`	`abbat_w`	`Pff... Where Blizzard take developers...`
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`09:35.00`	`Tupsi`	`that seems a hot topic these days`
`09:35.15`	`Tupsi`	`uh scrolling for the lose, this morning`
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`09:37.41`	`CIA-23`	`03nymbia * r36711 10Quartz/ (Buff/Buff.lua Mirror/Mirror.lua):`
`09:37.41`	`CIA-23`	`Quartz:`
`09:37.41`	`CIA-23`	`- A couple nil checks.`
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`09:38.26`	`Loki\|muh`	`did they release a hotfix for the Gruuls Lair bugs yet?`
`09:38.46`	`dandelion`	`what is bugged?`
`09:39.01`	`Loki\|muh`	`crush firehand and gruul himself`
`09:39.26`	`Loki\|muh`	`the first does not put up his shield at the beginning of the fight`
`09:39.44`	`Loki\|muh`	`the latter strikes the third on his aggro-list, not the second`
`09:39.49`	`Loki\|muh`	`(hurtful strikes)`
`09:39.53`	`dandelion`	`!`
`09:40.08`	`dandelion`	`that...i gotta check my dm logs`
`09:40.24`	`nadas`	`that was all hotfixed`
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`09:40.41`	`nadas`	`supposedly`
`09:40.55`	`pb_ee1`	`What is the new "Upgrade existing settings" option used for in WoWAceUpdater?`
`09:41.06`	`phyber`	`I heard that Gruul summons Patchwerk and eye lazers more in this patch?!`
`09:41.23`	`nadas`	`yeah, we noticed more deep breaths in phase 2 as well`
`09:41.38`	`dandelion`	`yah, i think it must have been...i was ot for him tonight and im pretty sure i was eating all the hurtfuls.`
`09:41.55`	`dandelion`	`(no eavesdrop running, but nobody was yelling at me, so...)`
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`09:42.18`	`Loki\|muh`	`good to know, thanks`
`09:42.20`	`pb_ee1`	`Does anybody now? :p`
`09:42.28`	`pb_ee1`	`know*`
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`09:43.40`	`CIA-23`	`03daviesh * r36712 10AtlasLoot/ (7 files in 7 dirs):`
`09:43.40`	`CIA-23`	`AtlasLoot:`
`09:43.40`	`CIA-23`	`- v3.00.03, fixed loot browser, minor loot updates`
`09:50.44`	`Bruners`	`what is the news around Zul'Aman ?`
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`09:55.13`	`nymbia`	`'ways off'`
`09:55.14`	`nymbia`	`and`
`09:55.18`	`nymbia`	`'hopefully 10 man'`
`09:56.07`	`CIA-23`	`03dandelion * r36713 10ComboSounds/:`
`09:56.07`	`CIA-23`	`ComboSounds:`
`09:56.07`	`CIA-23`	`- Fixed incorrect reference to Waterfall external library.`
`09:56.33`	`Diao`	`10 man zg 2.0 eh`
`09:56.36`	`abbat_w`	`Guys, which addon make 'S Y G O W E G L' bar on this screenshot: http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/machined/ggg-1.jpg ?`
`09:56.40`	`abbat_w`	`Maybe someone know`
`09:58.15`	`Diao`	`chatbar`
`09:58.44`	`CIA-23`	`03nymbia * r36714 10/trunk/ (16 files in 16 dirs):`
`09:58.45`	`CIA-23`	`.Nymbia's addons and libraries:`
`09:58.45`	`CIA-23`	`- Rearrange tocs`
`09:58.45`	`CIA-23`	`- Where applicable, add LoadManagers stuff for SupplyAndDemand. I'll add whatever other LoD stubs that can be implemented with just a metadata field or two (read: not stubby)`
`09:58.47`	`Diao`	`from cosmos`
`09:59.06`	`abbat_w`	`Thanks`
`10:00.02`	`Silviu-`	`renchap ping :)`
`10:00.52`	`*** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@gw.apt.no)`
`10:01.02`	`Elkano_`	`he said the bad c word...`
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`10:01.22`	`Stephmw`	`Burn him at the stake!`
`10:01.51`	`wobin_`	`><`
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`10:03.14`	`Silviu-`	`~seen Kaelten`
`10:04.10`	`purl`	`kaelten <n=kaelten@69.109.103.158> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 38m 9s ago, saying: ':)'.`
`10:04.42`	`Chompers`	`noooo`
`10:04.48`	`Chompers`	`not cosmos THE ENEMY`
`10:05.02`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`10:06.37`	`[Ammo]`	`I wasn't aware we had enemies?`
`10:06.37`	`Megalon`	`and thee who have cosmos installed shall have deadly bossmods also installed!`
`10:07.13`	`nymbia`	`[Ammo]: that's it, i'm labeling you the enemy.`
`10:07.20`	`[Ammo]`	`good`
`10:07.26`	`[Ammo]`	`then you'll be labeled my loveslave`
`10:07.32`	`nymbia`	`hot`
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`10:07.39`	`[Ammo]`	`now strip and lick my boots`
`10:07.50`	`nymbia`	`sounds like a plan!`
`10:07.53`	`Chompers`	`i read 'boots' as 'anus'`
`10:07.58`	`Chompers`	`something is wrong with me`
`10:08.15`	`sbu`	`yes.`
`10:08.21`	`nymbia`	`and frank83x is like.. did i join the wrong channel?`
`10:08.38`	`[Ammo]`	`haha`
`10:08.45`	`[Ammo]`	`he's dutch, he should be able to handle some of it`
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`10:09.10`	`nymbia`	`true`
`10:09.10`	`wobin_`	`now you've done it`
`10:09.13`	`frank83x`	`lol`
`10:09.14`	`wobin_`	`all the dutch are coming now`
`10:09.18`	`nymbia`	`hahaha`
`10:09.22`	`[Ammo]`	`the best dutch was already on :p`
`10:09.32`	`frank83x`	`I thought I joined an even better channel`
`10:09.43`	`nymbia`	`sneaky, [Ammo] .. sneaky.`
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`10:10.17`	`frank83x`	`anyone else getting any lua errors even with all addons disabled`
`10:10.51`	`nymbia`	`frank83x: it's blizzy buggyness, they borked the castsequence macro code and some other macro stuff too`
`10:10.59`	`[Ammo]`	`frank83x: blizz bug yeah`
`10:11.36`	`frank83x`	`it appears on login`
`10:11.39`	`frank83x`	`doesnt go away`
`10:11.49`	`nymbia`	`because it's constant :(`
`10:11.51`	`sbu`	`how to find out what taints my blizz raid/social window? (unaccesable in combat) :/`
`10:11.57`	`frank83x`	`UGH`
`10:12.03`	`frank83x`	`stupid game`
`10:12.10`	`nymbia`	`you can try the 'see no evil' method: /console scriptErrors 0`
`10:12.29`	`frank83x`	`I wish they'd just learn how to test something before releasing it`
`10:12.40`	`frank83x`	`instead of having paying customers do it for them`
`10:12.42`	`frank83x`	`bleh`
`10:12.42`	`[Ammo]`	`blizzards QA team tested with: /console scriptErrors 0`
`10:13.05`	`nymbia`	`[Ammo]: had to test (and i mean REALLY test) the new error hiding feature!`
`10:13.08`	`Sole`	`hi you gusy`
`10:14.22`	`frank83x`	`maybe I should try to get employed by blizzard`
`10:14.31`	`frank83x`	`as part of their Q&A team`
`10:14.40`	`frank83x`	`then I can get paid for doing what im doing now`
`10:15.00`	`frank83x`	`enough ranting`
`10:15.06`	`Elkano_`	`no, hanging around in IRC would get you fired`
`10:15.07`	`Sole`	`nymbia: pokepokepoke`
`10:15.18`	`frank83x`	`exit now? YES`
`10:15.56`	`wobin_`	`It's true`
`10:16.05`	`wobin_`	`AL worked for Blizzard for a bit`
`10:16.12`	`wobin_`	`then got fired for running irc`
`10:16.16`	`nymbia`	`Sole:`
`10:16.19`	`nymbia`	`hi ;)`
`10:16.26`	`Sole`	`nymbia: you play with Gladiator yet?`
`10:16.40`	`Chompers`	`i do, its great`
`10:16.49`	`nymbia`	`Sole: it blew up on me today :(`
`10:16.49`	`Chompers`	`convinced my whole arena team to use it`
`10:16.49`	`Elkano_`	`wobin_: exactly`
`10:16.54`	`Sole`	`nymbia: Im kinda busy irl to even play rated arena matches anymore, I stepped down from my top 10 2v2 team :(`
`10:16.59`	`Fisker-`	`why isn't tigole and furor fired then? :(`
`10:17.15`	`nymbia`	`Sole: that's too bad :(`
`10:17.15`	`Sole`	`Chompers: good to hear, any suggestions apart from an options menu? :P`
`10:17.25`	`Sole`	`nymbia: they were bad anyway, srsly`
`10:17.34`	`evl`	`Gladiator is what compared to ArenaMaster?`
`10:17.34`	`Chompers`	`a way of turning off the spam it puts out`
`10:17.39`	`nymbia`	`my 5s team is finally pushing into the top 15`
`10:17.46`	`Sole`	`evl: its better compared to ArenaMaster :P`
`10:17.49`	`Chompers`	`the chat screen gets filled up many times over in a 5man`
`10:17.50`	`Sole`	`nice nymb`
`10:18.09`	`Sole`	`so an options screen`
`10:18.24`	`Sole`	`hmm`
`10:18.30`	`Sole`	`slash cmds, dewdrop or waterfall?`
`10:18.34`	`Sole`	`Ima thinkin waterfall`
`10:18.57`	`Sole`	`or maybe dewdrop when you alt + right click on the frame`
`10:18.59`	`Chompers`	`and a way of moving the gladiator frame while not in an arena`
`10:19.07`	`Elkano_`	`sole, with a good ace options table you'll get all three for the price of one`
`10:19.09`	`nymbia`	`yeah, i liked how it got quartz's to work out in waterfall`
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`10:20.21`	`Elkano_`	`I should check back with waterfall for EBBs when my hardware is running again`
`10:21.39`	`nymbia`	`oh dear god`
`10:21.46`	`nymbia`	`http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/general-news/community-news/coming-late-june-07-curse-com/`
`10:22.05`	`rronkiv`	`i totally love wow now that i've found ace and sperate addons, i loved the old ui i had, but it was to cluttered and lagged alot! :P hehe`
`10:22.08`	`nymbia`	`another revamp...? wasnt the last one like 5 months ago?`
`10:22.15`	`evl`	`Yeah`
`10:22.32`	`evl`	`I can't wait for wowhead to get into the addons department, bai bai curse`
`10:22.38`	`frank83x`	`I loved the old UI I had as well`
`10:22.54`	`evl`	`And they have a month of instability/bugs between each revmap`
`10:22.55`	`frank83x`	`the good old 2.0.* days`
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`10:24.41`	`CIA-23`	`03benjib007 * r36715 10Meeuuuh/Meeuuuh.toc:`
`10:24.41`	`CIA-23`	`Meeuuuh:`
`10:24.41`	`CIA-23`	`- Updating version for patch 2.1`
`10:24.44`	`Chompers`	`sole`
`10:24.59`	`Sole`	`Chompers: hi`
`10:25.11`	`pb_ee1`	`evl: I'm not pretty sure Wowhead will get into the addons department ;)`
`10:25.14`	`Chompers`	`i'd also like some way of running that dataminer other than using a lua program`
`10:25.32`	`Chompers`	`so us stupid people can collect upto date information`
`10:25.52`	`Sole`	`thats on the backburner`
`10:26.07`	`Sole`	`might rewrite it as a seperate program`
`10:26.24`	`Sole`	`or I might set up weekly updating on some server`
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`10:29.00`	`abbat_w`	`Sole, Waterfall be better ;)`
`10:29.22`	`Sole`	`abbat_w: I'll just do all three`
`10:29.35`	`nymbia`	`yeah, easy enough to do em all`
`10:29.59`	`dRiN`	`what addon can i use to keep track of incoming and outgoing mail (guildbank registration)?`
`10:30.32`	`sbu`	`stab toadkiller`
`10:31.11`	`sbu`	`autobar taints raid/social frame :/ when disabled you can open raid frame, swap groups, ... :/`
`10:31.39`	`sbu`	`hmmmmm - pt3bar works? :o`
`10:32.00`	`vhaarr`	`of course it works, but don't whine when it eats your testicles`
`10:33.02`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: the testicle eating module isn't working quite right yet :(`
`10:33.19`	`vhaarr`	`bah, I'll have a look at it later`
`10:33.27`	`sbu`	`hah!`
`10:33.27`	`nymbia`	`thanks :D`
`10:33.31`	`vhaarr`	`right now I'm busy eating these fresh plums I just bought`
`10:33.46`	`nymbia`	`haha`
`10:33.52`	`dandelion`	`ok, ill bite the bullet and ask the noob question: why isn't the addon i just added (ComboSounds) appearing in the list at http://files.wowace.com/? is it something i failed to do? or, someone mentioned earlier that svn.wowace wasn't syncing--could that be it?`
`10:33.54`	`vhaarr`	`they're so juicy!`
`10:34.03`	`[Ammo]`	`the files script is down`
`10:34.06`	`vhaarr`	`dandelion: Because the ZIP script is down.`
`10:34.07`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`10:34.12`	`dandelion`	`ok, cool`
`10:34.24`	`nymbia`	personally, i place the blame on Punkie`
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`10:35.20`	Punkie`	`what!`
`10:35.23`	Punkie`	`this is madness!`
`10:35.25`	`pb_ee1`	`I've noticed, though, that the WowAce worked quite nicely during the patch day :P`
`10:35.37`	`sbu`	`mhh, default pt3bar config looks usable!? wtf? nymbia: fix that :p`
`10:35.38`	`pb_ee1`	`WowAce server* I meant`
`10:35.45`	`vhaarr`	`yes and the second "patch day madness" was over, it broke.`
`10:35.48`	`vhaarr`	`perhaps it just needs a break.`
`10:35.48`	`nymbia`	`sbu: sorry, i'm on it.`
`10:36.03`	`dandelion`	`it was like the blues brothers car`
`10:36.12`	`vhaarr`	`<3 that car`
`10:36.36`	`sbu`	`nymbia: i think its some kind of "you need at least 5h to find the (empty!) config file + readme" addon :/`
`10:36.41`	`frank83x`	`can anyone link me to a document explaining macro changes?`
`10:37.10`	`nymbia`	`sbu: lol`
`10:37.38`	`nymbia`	`frank83x: there arent really any, aside from a couple new added conditionals and accidental breakage.`
`10:38.07`	`nymbia`	`ow`
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`10:39.19`	`Seyken`	`Hello all :)`
`10:39.22`	`frank83x`	`well breakage doesnt happen by itself usually`
`10:39.46`	`Seyken`	`has someone got an error with prat whenever they go to AB?`
`10:39.56`	`sbu`	`omfg... black temple requires mt hyjal?`
`10:39.57`	`Seyken`	`in reletion with gloery li`
`10:40.03`	`Fisker-`	`why shouldn't it?`
`10:40.22`	`evl`	`People tend to forget`
`10:40.22`	`sbu`	`because i wont get there in next few months :p`
`10:40.29`	`evl`	`Black Temple is where you kill Illidan`
`10:40.31`	`evl`	`aka THE MAN`
`10:40.33`	`sbu`	`hmyep`
`10:40.45`	`sbu`	`but see naxxramas`
`10:41.11`	`evl`	`Kel'Thuzad was only a boon in the grand scheme of things`
`10:41.18`	`sbu`	`sigh :)`
`10:41.33`	`Stephmw`	`never did get to 'enjoy' naxx`
`10:41.40`	`evl`	`it was consumables hell`
`10:41.44`	`evl`	`how can you enjoy that`
`10:41.56`	`Stephmw`	`I didn't... I also never got attuned`
`10:42.26`	Punkie`	`boon ftw`
`10:42.55`	`Fisker-`	Punkie`
`10:42.58`	`Fisker-`	`this isn't madness`
`10:43.03`	Punkie`	`man, it just reminds me of how my guild name is just so rediculously awesome`
`10:43.24`	Punkie`	`Fisker-: it's not anymore!`
`10:43.27`	`Fisker-`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=286784274&sid=1`
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`10:47.17`	`CIA-23`	`03phyber * r36716 10FuBar_GCInFu/ (FuBar_GCInFu.toc GCInFu.lua):`
`10:47.17`	`CIA-23`	`FuBar_GCInFu:`
`10:47.17`	`CIA-23`	`- Updated TOC for 2.1`
`10:47.17`	`CIA-23`	`- Small changes to addon.`
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`10:50.44`	`Silviu-`	`Can someone make a test commit ? ;)`
`10:50.47`	`nymbia`	`so there's really no other lod stubs floating around yet?`
`10:51.51`	`Silviu-`	`So we will see if public svn synces again ?`
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`10:53.50`	`CIA-23`	`03phyber * r36717 10/ (tags/AH_Wipe/AH_Wipe-20003/ trunk/AH_Wipe/):`
`10:53.50`	`CIA-23`	`AH_Wipe:`
`10:53.50`	`CIA-23`	`- Move into tags. RIP.`
`10:53.50`	`CIA-23`	`03nymbia * r36718 10Manufac/Manufac.toc:`
`10:53.50`	`CIA-23`	`Manufac:`
`10:53.50`	`CIA-23`	`~poke svn.wowace.com`
`10:54.04`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind svn.wowace.com, pokes svn.wowace.com repeatedly, hilarity ensues.`
`10:54.04`	`Silviu-`	`Thx nymbia`
`10:54.05`	`Laricwork`	`the high memory usage of Ace2. Is that due to the fact that acedb is in the ace2 addon?`
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`10:54.48`	`nymbia`	`Laricwork: actually, AceEvent will often get blamed for memory allocations made by addons during an event response`
`10:55.20`	`Laricwork`	`nymbia ok.. so it is to be expected that ace2 is high memory then i guess`
`10:55.46`	`Iceroth`	`try running only 1 ace addon you know doesn't use much memory and see how it goes`
`10:55.51`	`nymbia`	`Laricwork: well, not MASSIVE, but yes`
`10:56.25`	`Laricwork`	`yesterday during a raid my ace2 was somewhere in the region of 11 mb more or less all the time`
`10:56.34`	`CIA-23`	`03beerke * r36719 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungle.lua KingOfTheJungle.toc):`
`10:56.34`	`CIA-23`	`KingOfTheJungle :`
`10:56.34`	`CIA-23`	`- TOC update`
`10:56.34`	`CIA-23`	`- Fix for Raw Meat and Raw Fish in non-english locales`
`10:56.34`	`CIA-23`	`- Some minor code cleaning`
`10:57.21`	`nymbia`	`Laricwork: that's a bit much.. but there's no way to tell which addon is actually using that memory.`
`10:57.27`	`Iceroth`	`one might say that's still less than many of the "other" addons ;)`
`10:57.29`	`nymbia`	`aside from disabling`
`10:58.29`	`Iceroth`	`what's The memory/cpu profiling addon to use after 2.1 btw?`
`10:58.32`	`nymbia`	`PerformanceFu`
`10:59.05`	`Laricwork`	`would be nice to have some sort of real profiler :P but I guess that is close to impossible`
`10:59.39`	`clad\|sleep`	`memory is charged to the addon that "owns" the taint flag of the current execution path`
`10:59.42`	`nymbia`	`debugfu as well, but it's for poking around in individual addons`
`11:00.03`	`clad\|sleep`	`the only exception being when an addon is being loaded, from .toc to ADDON_LOADED, anything created will get that addon's flag`
`11:00.06`	`nymbia`	`clad\|sleep: generally the one that created the frame, right?`
`11:00.28`	`clad\|work`	`if you're talking event handling, then yes`
`11:00.33`	`clad\|work`	`if the frames aren't created by the addons themselves`
`11:00.50`	`clad\|work`	`fixing the memory issues is easier than fixing the CPU issues`
`11:00.54`	`Laricwork`	`so all events triggered by aceevent gets blamed on aceevent?`
`11:00.55`	`clad\|work`	`tho both are definitely possible.`
`11:01.32`	`clad\|work`	`its not that simple :P`
`11:01.49`	`Laricwork`	`nothing rarely is that simple :P`
`11:01.49`	`Fisker-`	`Gagorian you there?`
`11:02.35`	`Iceroth`	`do the changes that came with 2.1 allow ace (or dongle or any such framework) to show individual cpu/memory usages of the event handlings?`
`11:02.43`	`Laricwork`	`clad\|work since you are here.. question. will yours and (insert atlas authors name) book be available in any ebook format?`
`11:02.47`	`Iceroth`	`i haven't read the patch notes that well, lazy me`
`11:02.57`	`clad\|work`	`Industrial: yes, it should be possible, tho not trivial`
`11:03.11`	`clad\|work`	`Laricwork: at the moment, I'm not sure there are plans to release an e-copy`
`11:03.27`	`Elkano_`	`clad, you wrote a book?`
`11:03.34`	`clad\|work`	`indeed.`
`11:03.37`	`clad\|work`	`i think EBB is in it, actually`
`11:03.37`	`clad\|work`	`heh`
`11:03.40`	`clad\|work`	`i didn't write that chapter`
`11:03.52`	`Iceroth`	`ha, i was not the only one out of the loop then :p`
`11:03.59`	`Iceroth`	`any url or something to read more about it?`
`11:04.07`	`clad\|work`	`its on amazon`
`11:04.11`	`clad\|work`	`hacking world of warcraft`
`11:04.13`	`clad\|work`	`yay for marketing :P`
`11:04.31`	`nymbia`	`heh`
`11:04.34`	`Laricwork`	`http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470110023?ie=UTF8&tag=atlas0d-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0470110023`
`11:04.55`	`Elkano_`	`as long as I get 1% of profit or so I don't care ;)`
`11:05.18`	`clad\|work`	`lol`
`11:05.21`	`clad\|work`	`that's more than i get`
`11:05.36`	`nymbia`	`yeah seriously`
`11:05.50`	`Elkano_`	`what? :( poor you :(`
`11:07.05`	`clad\|work`	`did ckknight revert his profiling changes to AceEvent, the ones that were supposedly going to make memory profiling correct?`
`11:07.25`	`nymbia`	`clad\|work: i reverted them`
`11:07.39`	`clad\|work`	`oh, yes i see this now`
`11:07.54`	`nymbia`	`clad\|work: they didn't place the blame correctly, and things went a smidge slower overall`
`11:08.16`	`clad\|work`	`tho I can't say that ".AceEvent?-2.0 - instead of having one frame for all addons, make one frame per addon and register with those. This will allow for profiling to be much more accurate for addons. Internals drastically changed for this change. Assorted optimizations. Hopefully nothing breaks, I did a bunch of testing, so here's hoping." inspired me with confidence`
`11:08.25`	`Laricwork`	`clad\|work when you click a coord ref in lightheaded. what addons is supported to add a waypoint?`
`11:08.29`	`nymbia`	`lol clad\|work ;)`
`11:08.34`	`clad\|work`	`Laricwork: I support TomTom`
`11:08.48`	`clad\|work`	`any other support is a result of that addon, and I know Cart_Waypoints did at some point`
`11:09.12`	`clad\|work`	`what sort of incorrect blame were you seeing with what he had there before?`
`11:09.35`	`clad\|work`	`i should go to work`
`11:09.36`	`clad\|work`	`nah, wow`
`11:09.41`	`clad\|work`	`then shower, then work`
`11:09.50`	`clad\|work`	`said the guy who has 21 minutes to leave :P`
`11:09.51`	`Laricwork`	`it would be nice to have support for cart.. is that you who have to do it or the cart ppl?`
`11:10.12`	`clad\|work`	`Laricwork: It used to work with Cart's map`
`11:10.17`	`nymbia`	`clad\|work: you mean with the old version, or with the newer one?`
`11:10.18`	`clad\|work`	`so if it broke, that's their fault`
`11:10.24`	`clad\|work`	`with the one you reverted`
`11:10.41`	`clad\|work`	`Laricwork: or rather, I assume its theirs, cause I changed nothing`
`11:11.13`	`Laricwork`	`clad\|work ok will take a peek and see if I can find out :P`
`11:11.46`	`clad\|work`	`tho hooking my handler is trivial`
`11:12.39`	`CIA-23`	`03ayunyan * r36720 10ChatAssist2/ (ChatAssist2.toc Core/ChatAssist.lua Readme.txt ReadmeJ.txt):`
`11:12.39`	`CIA-23`	`ChatAssist2:`
`11:12.39`	`CIA-23`	`- Changed Class Color (Shaman)`
`11:12.39`	`CIA-23`	`- Changed AddOn version to 2.0.2`
`11:12.39`	`CIA-23`	`- Fixed bug ColorName cannot be used for the character names other than the alphabet.`
`11:12.39`	`CIA-23`	`- Fixed bug AceLocale cannot be loaded.`
`11:12.45`	`clad\|work`	`nymbia: you there?`
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`11:12.48`	`nymbia`	`clad\|work: well, the intent was to have the blame path for the handler frames point at the addon that created it, but there wasn't any difference in where the blame fell between the two versions, just the extra overhead of using a number of frames`
`11:12.52`	`clad\|work`	`ah okay`
`11:13.03`	`CIA-23`	`03ayunyan * r36721 10ChatAssist2Options/ (ChatAssist2Options.toc Core/ChatAssistOptions.lua):`
`11:13.04`	`CIA-23`	`ChatAssist2Options:`
`11:13.04`	`CIA-23`	`- Changed AddOn version to 2.0.2`
`11:13.04`	`CIA-23`	`- Fixed bug AceLocale cannot be loaded.`
`11:13.11`	`clad\|work`	`what do you mean between the two versions?`
`11:13.14`	`clad\|work`	`oh`
`11:13.18`	`nymbia`	`yeah`
`11:13.20`	`clad\|work`	`you mean it was supposed to shift the blame`
`11:13.22`	`clad\|work`	`but it didn't`
`11:13.28`	`nymbia`	`correct`
`11:13.28`	`clad\|work`	`for memory OR cpu?`
`11:13.30`	`nymbia`	`both, i think`
`11:13.40`	`clad\|work`	`the OnEvent handler needs to be created by a closure.`
`11:13.41`	`nymbia`	`memory seems to be going to the right place, looking at it now.`
`11:13.47`	`clad\|work`	`really?`
`11:13.47`	`clad\|work`	`well`
`11:13.55`	`clad\|work`	`CPU can be fixed`
`11:14.02`	`clad\|work`	`using the same methods as memory`
`11:14.08`	`clad\|work`	`albeit more difficult for ace than dongle, to be sure.`
`11:14.17`	`clad\|work`	`advantages of KISS, hehe`
`11:14.25`	`nymbia`	`indeed ;)`
`11:14.28`	`Iceroth`	`overrated, imo`
`11:14.31`	`[Ammo]`	`haha`
`11:14.35`	`phyber`	`clad\|work: so, what kind of content does that book, uhh, contain?`
`11:14.49`	`phyber`	`I'm hoping it contains some 40 man pages. HUGE pages where we all work together to read it.`
`11:14.58`	`Fisker-`	`what lol?`
`11:15.02`	`clad\|work`	`lemme find the .toc`
`11:15.03`	`phyber`	`;)`
`11:15.05`	`Iceroth`	`prime example of kiss: http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/The-Indexer.aspx`
`11:15.07`	`[Ammo]`	`at least I'm happy with the figures CandyBar were showing for cpu usage`
`11:15.21`	`Fisker-`	`Someone tells me Flash of Light is useless as healing as it needs more healers to keep tanks up`
`11:15.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Iceroth: heh, i read that earlier today, that's beautiful`
`11:15.31`	`Fisker-`	`And tells me that Holy Light rank 5 is more mana efficient than flash of light`
`11:15.35`	`Fisker-`	`i lol'd`
`11:15.42`	`clad\|work`	`phyber: http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470110023,descCd-tableOfContents.html`
`11:15.44`	`Iceroth`	`NightHawkTheSane, the user comments are really golden in that one ;)`
`11:15.46`	`[Ammo]`	`Fisker-: well it's true karazhan etc are all big heal country`
`11:15.49`	`clad\|work`	`there are excerpts there too`
`11:15.56`	`nymbia`	`yeah, my stuff's been faring better in CPU-profiling-land than i originally expected.`
`11:16.18`	`[Ammo]`	`the gradient caching I added to candybar was the best bet ever :p`
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`11:16.32`	`clad\|work`	`i love how for them , an excerpt is an entire chapter O.o`
`11:16.54`	`Jagobah`	`nymbia ( '-')`
`11:16.59`	`clad\|work`	`Table of Contents: http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/23/04701100/0470110023-2.pdf`
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`11:17.09`	`nymbia`	`Jagobah: huhwha?`
`11:17.16`	`Jagobah`	`Quartz crystal`
`11:17.22`	`nymbia`	`rofl ;)`
`11:17.47`	`Jagobah`	`=]`
`11:18.44`	`clad\|work`	`shower, brb`
`11:19.43`	`phyber`	`yeah, the book is spoiled for me now. I read the last chapter. Illidan dies :(`
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`11:20.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`OH MY GOD!`
`11:21.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`... i had money riding on illidan. ><`
`11:22.12`	`Iceroth`	`so hmm.. ragnaros, neffy, c'thun, lich king... what would happen to illidan... ;)`
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`11:23.09`	`[Ammo]`	`he surrenders, gives you his chest of loot, and then tricks you by portalling out`
`11:24.12`	`Iceroth`	`i'm having hard time picturing the demon lord surrendering`
`11:24.39`	`sbu`	`oh btw chest`
`11:24.56`	`sbu`	`chess event loot is now bound to the group`
`11:25.11`	`Saroz`	`- The Lurker Below will no longer emerge from the water before all adds are dead.`
`11:25.11`	`Saroz`	`WUT`
`11:25.17`	`phyber`	`He turns out to have powers like Sylar. When he enrages, he cuts the heads off of various members of your raid and gaining their abilities. If you're unlucky enough to let him kill a Paladin (by not inturrupting) then he bubble hearths and you have to wait a week for the reset. Unless you feel like going through all of the Heroic instances to see which one he had set as his "home" this week.`
`11:25.42`	`Iceroth`	`:D`
`11:25.49`	`Iceroth`	`that would be damn annoying :D`
`11:25.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that'd be awesome.`
`11:25.59`	`Iceroth`	`or hmm, mass dispel?`
`11:26.04`	`Saroz`	`wut clad\|work!`
`11:26.11`	`Ominous`	`this makes no sense, people are complaining that some translations are erroring as they dont exist in babble spell but they are there`
`11:27.18`	`Saroz`	`clad\|work, can I read what you wrote about sRaidFrames?`
`11:27.42`	`Iceroth`	`"sure, buy the book" ;)`
`11:27.55`	`Saroz`	`meh!`
`11:28.09`	`Fisker-`	`is gridalert causing the grid fubar plugin to be inaccessible?`
`11:28.27`	`Chompers`	`phyber`
`11:28.29`	`Chompers`	`top stuff`
`11:28.43`	`CIA-23`	`03sylvanaar * r36722 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: Fix this extra parameter bug`
`11:30.05`	`Laricwork`	`is necb the 'best' dot tracker atm?`
`11:30.27`	`dRiN`	`drin`
`11:30.32`	`dRiN`	`wrong chat :D`
`11:30.44`	Punkie`	`Laricwork: what do you mean?`
`11:31.03`	`evl`	`Fucking GG blizzard`
`11:31.10`	`Laricwork`	`like chronometer misses quite a few hot's I throw out and I am looking for something more reliable`
`11:31.14`	`evl`	`apparently there's a bug with seal fate so you don't get extra cp from mutilate, YAY`
`11:31.22`	`Fisker-`	`CP?`
`11:31.24`	`evl`	`Laric: ClassTimer`
`11:31.25`	`Fisker-`	`FUKKEN SAVED`
`11:31.26`	`Fisker-`	`oh wait`
`11:32.07`	`Laricwork`	`evl will have a look :P`
`11:32.18`	`Laricwork`	`sbu: "<sbu> chess event loot is now bound to the group" what does that mean?`
`11:32.21`	`Iceroth`	`mm... losing 1 compo point sometimes is the worst thing wrong with your class? meh.`
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`11:32.42`	`phyber`	`Fisker-: hehe`
`11:32.52`	`abraxas^`	`guys, my Prat isn't working anymore :<`
`11:33.10`	`dRiN`	`Laricwork: seems to me that noone that was not there at the win gets to loot an item from the chest.`
`11:33.11`	`Laricwork`	`evl: try playing 'the primary healing' class in the game and watch yourself being out healed all the time by pallies :P`
`11:33.40`	`Fisker-`	`because they are primary healers`
`11:33.47`	`Iceroth`	`evil :p`
`11:34.17`	`Laricwork`	`Fisker- they are still considered hybrid`
`11:34.18`	`clad\|work`	`Saroz: I dont have the copy any more.. I'd have to dig to find your section`
`11:34.19`	`clad\|work`	`but i'll look`
`11:34.28`	`Saroz`	`thx`
`11:35.01`	`Fisker-`	`of course Laricwork but until Blizzard finally finds an approach to hybrids that work we should be the primary healing class`
`11:35.39`	`Laricwork`	`I am still amazed on how blizzard have managed to have the game running for 2 years and not done a single thing to holy and disci trees for priests..`
`11:35.48`	`evl`	Punkie`: Sniff, seal fate broken, I can't believe it
`11:35.58`	`Laricwork`	`Fisker- what should the priests be then?`
`11:36.06`	`Boubouille`	`Laricwork : bah, priests are never happy.`
`11:36.14`	`Boubouille`	`they upgraded holy nova !`
`11:36.14`	`haarm`	`Laricwork, you missed the priest review?`
`11:36.22`	`Laricwork`	`yes I did..`
`11:36.33`	`Laricwork`	`they reviewed the shadow tree and added lolwell`
`11:36.50`	`haarm`	`and made stuff like greater heal more viable for raid healing`
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`11:37.23`	`Laricwork`	`haarm oh you mean that spell that have scaled so well in tbc :P`
`11:37.42`	`Laricwork`	`ppl have 3 times the hp.. the heals have gone up like 20%?`
`11:37.53`	`haarm`	`i'm working on "not done a single thing to holy and disci trees for priests"`
`11:38.11`	`Laricwork`	`ok.. very small adjustments then :P`
`11:38.38`	`Saroz`	`fuck sake, ktm sucks memory like a bitch`
`11:38.40`	`Saroz`	`and CPU`
`11:38.53`	`Fisker-`	`bitches suck memory?`
`11:38.58`	`Fisker-`	`i thought they sucked something else :o`
`11:39.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`they'll suck whatever.`
`11:39.06`	`evl`	`KTM has memory and CPU problems? SHOCK`
`11:39.21`	`Fisker-`	`Laricwork i dunno what they should be, but right now there most effective task is off-healing`
`11:39.24`	`Fisker-`	`or raid-healing`
`11:39.34`	`Laricwork`	`haarm what I want is really 2 things.. spirit buff should be trainable (I mean our primary stat buff is talent based?) and a 41 point full aggro dump`
`11:39.44`	`CIA-23`	`03saroz * r36723 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Hook before creating frames`
`11:39.56`	`haarm`	`lol, priests need an aggro dump?`
`11:39.58`	`[Ammo]`	`Saroz: violation is doing very very well compared to SWS and DMM :)`
`11:40.20`	`Laricwork`	`haarm sure does :P`
`11:40.23`	`wobin_`	`Heh, they should up the crit chance for holy nova`
`11:40.25`	`haarm`	`no, it doesn't`
`11:40.30`	`nymbia`	`Cryect: ping`
`11:40.30`	`wobin_`	`I'd be happy with that =)`
`11:40.34`	`Laricwork`	`as nothing pulls general aggro like a priest :P`
`11:40.45`	`Chompers`	`Violation seems to be really accurate`
`11:41.03`	`[Ammo]`	`it's accurate for people in range`
`11:41.03`	`Chompers`	`its usually within 1 or 2 dps of other damage meter addons`
`11:41.04`	`Laricwork`	`violation is damage tracking only?`
`11:41.20`	`Chompers`	`i'm working on converting my guild to it no`
`11:41.22`	`[Ammo]`	`damage healing dps hps incoming damage incoming healing decurse and crithitrate`
`11:41.22`	`Chompers`	`now`
`11:41.32`	`[Ammo]`	`it's modular`
`11:41.35`	`Laricwork`	`nice`
`11:41.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`'crithitrate'`
`11:41.41`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`?`
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`11:41.49`	`haarm`	`%crit?`
`11:41.53`	`Saroz`	`nice [Ammo], now make it sync with SWS and DMM :p`
`11:41.57`	`Iceroth`	`could it be/ane plans to extend it to handle current threat? as in, ktm replacement`
`11:41.58`	`[Ammo]`	`Saroz: never`
`11:42.00`	`abraxas^`	`damnit, why do you hate me Prat`
`11:42.12`	`Iceroth`	`*any plans`
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`11:42.17`	`Chompers`	`eaw, DMM taint`
`11:42.17`	`Saroz`	`[Ammo], noone uses violation :\|`
`11:42.20`	`[Ammo]`	`Iceroth: if someone wants to write a threat module go ahead, but meh it's a big undertaking and not worth the trouble`
`11:42.28`	`[Ammo]`	`Saroz: shrug`
`11:43.01`	`[Ammo]`	`Saroz: once we're done with the proper sync setup then only a few people will need to`
`11:43.07`	`haarm`	`well, its not much trouble to monitor self threat, its the constant syncing thats the major ovhead i guess`
`11:43.09`	`Saroz`	`gogo then`
`11:43.15`	`Laricwork`	`ktm is a nice thing.. just too bad it is a 'tad' resource hungry`
`11:43.16`	`haarm`	`*over`
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`11:43.23`	`[Ammo]`	`ktm breeds stupidity`
`11:43.26`	`Chompers`	`i've got 3 people in a 10 man using it and its very accurate`
`11:43.38`	`[Ammo]`	`the idea itself is cool, but it does not promote learning`
`11:43.56`	`Iceroth`	`helps when the boss dodges 5 first hits from tank`
`11:44.00`	`Chompers`	`ktm helps get the most dps out of people`
`11:44.06`	`haarm`	`[Ammo] it helps when you don't know the tank just g... Iceroth beat me to it`
`11:44.52`	`[Ammo]`	`maybe maybe not`
`11:45.06`	`nymbia`	`http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/#comment_258718`
`11:45.26`	`Laricwork`	`it also helps when you play with a bunch of different ppl more or less every night.. they just never learn :P`
`11:45.47`	`Saroz`	`nymbia :D`
`11:45.59`	`Fisker-`	`SWISH nymbia`
`11:46.10`	`Fisker-`	`i lol'd`
`11:46.27`	`nymbia`	`he's gettin pretty combative >.>`
`11:46.34`	`evl`	`I don't use KTM basically because it takes too much focus of what I should be doing, playing WoW that is.`
`11:46.45`	`Chompers`	`what class do you play?`
`11:47.11`	`Fisker-`	`who put in the cpu profiling message?`
`11:47.17`	`evl`	`rogue :)`
`11:48.03`	`Fisker-`	`how can it even have 8% CPU usage when in idle? :o`
`11:48.32`	`nymbia`	`he posted exactly why a few posts down`
`11:49.00`	`nymbia`	`instead of using UNIT_AURA and ITEM_INVENTORY_UPDATE, he just rescans shit with OnUpdates`
`11:49.21`	`wobin_`	`><`
`11:49.34`	`evl`	`nymbia: what addon is the topic here?`
`11:49.36`	`Saroz`	`lol`
`11:49.39`	`Laricwork`	`ktm`
`11:49.40`	`phyber`	`haarm: or the tank could just say "he's dodging me. he must have eaten a rogue before we arrived."`
`11:49.41`	`wobin_`	`"I'm sorry, The performance monitor you are using is incorrect. Please use the one provided by my addon!" =)`
`11:49.42`	`nymbia`	`evl: ktm`
`11:49.49`	`nymbia`	`wobin_: yeah lol`
`11:49.56`	`evl`	`KTM would ruin my cosmetically perfect UI`
`11:50.07`	`Saroz`	`SCREENSHOT`
`11:50.13`	`Laricwork`	`evl show`
`11:50.15`	`Loki\|muh`	`evl: show it`
`11:50.17`	`Loki\|muh`	`pants off ^^`
`11:50.20`	`haarm`	`phyber, we're a european guild, most of the time i have trouble understanding the hick accents of various countries`
`11:50.24`	`evl`	`roflk`
`11:50.25`	`evl`	`http://www.internetfriendsforever.com/screenshots/blend_ui.jpg`
`11:50.45`	`evl`	`Can't like have a bit ass KTM window`
`11:50.50`	`Fisker-`	`lol`
`11:50.50`	`sbu`	`Saroz: you broke something`
`11:50.54`	`Chompers`	`a skinner bottom bar + some unit frames ?`
`11:50.56`	`Saroz`	`sbu?`
`11:50.57`	`abraxas^`	`man my interface looks crazy compared to that :V`
`11:50.57`	`Fisker-`	`i love people who knows nothing trying to defend him`
`11:51.00`	`Fisker-`	`vatosky wrote:`
`11:51.00`	`Fisker-`	`18 hours ago`
`11:51.00`	`Fisker-`	`@Killmore`
`11:51.01`	`Fisker-`	`Cut the shit and l2upgrade your computer.`
`11:51.04`	`Fisker-`	`haha`
`11:51.09`	`sbu`	`Saroz: sRF group headers`
`11:51.10`	`Loki\|muh`	`evl: lol no buttons?`
`11:51.12`	`evl`	`Well I remember my hotkeys, I only need to know when cooldowns are ready`
`11:51.13`	`sbu`	`("Group 1", ...)`
`11:51.16`	`Laricwork`	`haarm where you from?`
`11:51.18`	`sbu`	`are shown in party here!? :o`
`11:51.20`	`haarm`	`england ;)`
`11:51.24`	`evl`	`and I just have a hotkey to turn on/off bars if i need to change shit`
`11:51.24`	`Saroz`	`just fixed it like 10 min ago`
`11:51.25`	`Saroz`	`I think`
`11:51.27`	`Chompers`	`button 1: stab`
`11:51.32`	`evl`	`Buttons are so 1997`
`11:51.33`	`Saroz`	`just fixed it like 10 min ago`
`11:51.35`	`Chompers`	`button 2: stab harder`
`11:51.36`	`Saroz`	`sbu`
`11:51.41`	`sbu`	`oh ok :)`
`11:51.42`	`Saroz`	`:p`
`11:51.48`	`sbu`	`sorry then ;o`
`11:51.51`	`Saroz`	`np`
`11:51.52`	`Loki\|muh`	`what are you using for noticing cooldowns?`
`11:51.57`	`abraxas^`	`is anyone else having problems with Prat or something? I swear I'm going nuts`
`11:51.58`	`evl`	`my own addon`
`11:52.04`	`evl`	`evl_Cooldowns, it's on the forum`
`11:52.04`	`Laricwork`	`haarm and you complain on dialect? so many english ppl can't speak their native language to any degree of understandability :P`
`11:52.05`	`sbu`	`Saroz: and btw: autobar causes raidframe tainting`
`11:52.06`	`Saroz`	`CooldownTimers2 could use some LOVE`
`11:52.13`	`Saroz`	`sbu, dont use autobar`
`11:52.13`	`evl`	`Saroz: I just remade it`
`11:52.19`	`Saroz`	`evl, commit mofo`
`11:52.24`	`sbu`	`w/o autobar its just fine here`
`11:52.32`	`Saroz`	`evl, spent like an hour last night debugging that shit and adding the new pots etc.`
`11:52.38`	`evl`	`It's not ready for public consumption, Options = {x = 200, y = 100} etc.`
`11:52.45`	`Saroz`	`meeh`
`11:52.48`	`evl`	`Saroz: mine doesn't handle pots.`
`11:52.50`	`evl`	`yet ;)`
`11:53.06`	`evl`	`I tend to think of pots as: 1) It's usable I live 2) It's not I'm dead`
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`11:53.11`	`Saroz`	`did you hack CooldownTimers2?`
`11:53.17`	`Laricwork`	`saroz what should I use instead of autobar then?`
`11:53.21`	`evl`	`I hacked oCD and CooldownTimers`
`11:53.26`	`Saroz`	`dont use autobar?`
`11:53.33`	`Saroz`	`I'm working on fixing CooldownTimers2`
`11:53.50`	`Chompers`	`autobar is great!`
`11:53.51`	`Chompers`	`whats wrong with it?`
`11:54.07`	`Saroz`	`2.0 fucked it over`
`11:54.10`	`Loki\|muh`	`yeah`
`11:54.23`	`Loki\|muh`	`it is confused with more than one healthstone e.g.`
`11:54.58`	`Chompers`	`it seems to work fine here`
`11:55.22`	`evl`	`I saw some nice UI which didn't have a black panel on the bottom but a nice gradient so you can see recent messages on black and slowly fades upwards, will make today!`
`11:55.45`	`Chompers`	`eepanels is good for that`
`11:55.56`	`sylvanaar`	`abraxas^ can you provide any detail`
`11:56.16`	`Chompers`	`i tried to make a ui like the ones in the eepanel forum thread...it didnt work out`
`11:56.26`	`phyber`	`nymbia: funny stuff. sounds like he wants to Discover BucketEvents :)`
`11:56.30`	`abraxas^`	`sylvanaar: Unfortunately not, I updated it with wau just now and it's just.. disappeared`
`11:56.45`	`abraxas^`	`it's ticked in the addons and loading without any errors at all. But the chatframes are unchanged, there's no fubar icon`
`11:56.48`	`abraxas^`	`it's just.. not there`
`11:56.54`	`nymbia`	`phyber: haha, seriously.`
`11:57.23`	`abraxas^`	`even /prat doesn't work`
`11:57.42`	`sylvanaar`	`exit your game`
`11:58.40`	`abraxas^`	`tried that`
`11:59.14`	`Chompers`	`hey guys! i just found the most awesome mod EVAR`
`11:59.18`	`Chompers`	`http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/deadly-boss-mods-la-vendetta/`
`11:59.25`	`Saroz`	`WHERE IS TEH CIA`
`11:59.25`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`11:59.28`	`[Ammo]`	`I approve`
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`11:59.38`	`wobin_`	`abraxas^: out od date addons checked?`
`11:59.53`	`*** kick/#wowace [Chompers!i=folk@ghybel696.krs.hia.no] by vhaarr (I found it before you, stop stealing credit)`
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`11:59.58`	`sylvanaar`	`abraxas^ externals?`
`12:00.00`	`Saroz`	`Chompers?`
`12:00.03`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`12:00.03`	`Chompers`	`:O`
`12:00.13`	`abraxas^`	`yeah I'm loading out of date addons and I'm always updating with externals`
`12:00.16`	`Kinkx`	`abraxas^, if you have ACP you can enable Prat there, when I logged in it wasn't loaded either.. had to enable it myself`
`12:00.26`	`Chompers`	`vhaarr is stealing my credit! ohnoes`
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`12:00.32`	`abraxas^`	`I don't have acp :< should I get it??`
`12:00.38`	`*** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net)`
`12:00.43`	`sylvanaar`	`oh this is retarded`
`12:00.54`	`abraxas^`	`sylvanaar: it was working perfectly until 4 am this morning and now, 10 hours later, it's a-gone`
`12:00.56`	Punkie`	`DBM? I love it already.`
`12:00.57`	`abraxas^`	`like it never existed`
`12:00.58`	`abraxas^`	`:<`
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`12:01.24`	`sylvanaar`	`do you have standalone ace2?`
`12:01.32`	`Kinkx`	`I do`
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`12:01.39`	`Kinkx`	`Also have externals tho for some reason ;P`
`12:01.47`	`abraxas^`	`I have externals and standalone ace2`
`12:02.05`	`sylvanaar`	`well, is ace2 enabled?`
`12:02.11`	`abraxas^`	`everything is`
`12:02.21`	`abraxas^`	`except for oCB because I was trying out quartz`
`12:02.21`	`abraxas^`	`:V`
`12:02.23`	`Kinkx`	`Yep, it's loaded`
`12:02.46`	`Chompers`	`Prat is missing for me also, its in the list, all libs are loaded`
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`12:02.51`	`Kinkx`	`I can disable Ace2 standalone, see what happens then`
`12:02.56`	`[Ammo]`	`haha the part where DBM autoresponds to a GM during a bossfight is cool`
`12:03.00`	`sbu`	`nymbia: hmm - pt3bar rocks! :p`
`12:03.05`	`[Ammo]`	`GM autoresponds to person`
`12:03.08`	`abraxas^`	`[Ammo]: happened to me twice already :V`
`12:03.09`	`[Ammo]`	`DBM autoresponds to GM`
`12:03.10`	`sylvanaar`	`just delete the line ##LoadManagers from prat's toc i guess it doesnt work like blizzard says it does`
`12:03.14`	`[Ammo]`	`hahaha`
`12:03.27`	`abraxas^`	`thank god I changed to bigwigs`
`12:03.32`	`abraxas^`	`it gives such a fuck you message too`
`12:03.45`	`sbu`	`[Ammo]: well i guess they dont care? ;)`
`12:04.09`	`[Ammo]`	`it's just funny`
`12:04.27`	`Kinkx`	`In ACP all the 4 Prat addons are listed as Loadable OnDemand, and I can enable them manually without reloading the UI`
`12:04.30`	`nymbia`	`sbu: thanks :)`
`12:04.33`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah`
`12:04.45`	`sylvanaar`	`but its supposed to load with ace3`
`12:04.47`	`sylvanaar`	`ace2`
`12:04.59`	`Chompers`	`the secrets out`
`12:05.09`	`Kinkx`	`Ah I see`
`12:05.32`	`sylvanaar`	`is ace2 loaded?`
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`12:05.56`	`Kinkx`	`Yep`
`12:06.04`	`vhaarr`	`Chompers: We revealed Ace3 a long time ago; http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5506.0`
`12:06.09`	`Kinkx`	`Lib: Ace2 is loaded`
`12:06.14`	`Chompers`	`yeah, i fell for it last night`
`12:06.16`	`Chompers`	`*time`
`12:06.36`	`abraxas^`	`you should call it Ace4 instead and confuse the hell out of everyone`
`12:06.37`	`Chompers`	`how the hell did i type night instead of time :/`
`12:06.50`	`CIA-22`	`03sairen * r36725 10cyCircled/cyCircled.toc: cyCircled: Added Bongos2 plugin`
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`12:07.06`	`abraxas^`	`sylvanaar: so I just remove the ##LoadManagers part or the LoadWith part?`
`12:07.14`	`abraxas^`	`er, LoadsWith`
`12:07.15`	`sylvanaar`	`loadmanagers`
`12:07.34`	`sylvanaar`	`you can try putting ace2 as an optionaldep exit/restart`
`12:07.55`	`abraxas^`	`man you might as well talk swedish to me, all I know about addons is that you tick the box to load them and untick the box to not load them :V`
`12:08.03`	`Fisker-`	`hehe [Ammo] knew that already :P`
`12:08.10`	`Fisker-`	`I wonder if it blocks their whispers though`
`12:08.15`	`CIA-22`	`03sairen * r36726 10cyCircled/plugins/Bongos2.lua: cyCircled: mh forgot plugin file actually...`
`12:08.36`	`sylvanaar`	`ugh`
`12:08.41`	`Chompers`	`i delete line 26 and it works`
`12:08.42`	`Kinkx`	`I can try it`
`12:08.52`	`sylvanaar`	`change to ## OptionalDeps: Ace2`
`12:08.57`	`sylvanaar`	`and see if it loads`
`12:10.15`	`abraxas^`	`it loaded with the LoadManagers removed`
`12:10.20`	`abraxas^`	`works like a charm now`
`12:10.54`	`abraxas^`	`thankyou`
`12:11.17`	`sylvanaar`	`soz that field may only let 1 load manager exist accross all addons...`
`12:11.21`	`winkiller`	`hm, anyone got buffalo2 to lock?`
`12:11.31`	`sylvanaar`	`which makes it....utterly...useless`
`12:13.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`it has issues`
`12:14.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`like not giving a way to tell ingame if an addon has a loadmanager`
`12:14.03`	`sylvanaar`	`it works fine for me - but if it doesnt work for them`
`12:14.07`	`wobin_`	`hm`
`12:14.09`	`sylvanaar`	`no, there is no way`
`12:14.11`	`wobin_`	`ever since the patch`
`12:14.17`	`wobin_`	`I've not been able to quit wow properly`
`12:14.24`	`wobin_`	`it just hangs`
`12:14.37`	`[Ammo]`	`some evil addon stuck on writing saved vars?`
`12:14.40`	`[Ammo]`	`or something`
`12:14.53`	`CIA-22`	`03sylvanaar * r36727 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: Try adding an optionaldeps on Ace2 also.`
`12:15.12`	`Kinkx`	`OptionalDeps: Ace2 + LoadManagers didn't work for me`
`12:15.34`	`nymbia`	`still got the LoadWith?`
`12:15.37`	`Kinkx`	`Yep`
`12:15.55`	`Kinkx`	`OptionalDeps: Ace2 + LoadManagers: Ace2 + LoadWith: Ace2`
`12:16.13`	`sylvanaar`	`was ace2 enabled when you started wow?`
`12:16.18`	`Kinkx`	`Yep`
`12:16.20`	`sylvanaar`	`what os?`
`12:16.32`	`Kinkx`	`WinXP`
`12:16.50`	`sylvanaar`	`just enable ace2 + prat and reloadui`
`12:17.03`	`sylvanaar`	`er, rather`
`12:17.24`	`sylvanaar`	`exit, then use the blizzard menu to enable them`
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`12:18.40`	`Kinkx`	`## LoadsWith: Ace2## LoadManagers: Ace2## OptionalDeps: Ace2 and just Ace2 and Prat loaded right?`
`12:18.42`	`*** part/#wowace Bergen (n=Licensed@24-117-146-48.cpe.cableone.net)`
`12:18.42`	`Kinkx`	`I'll try`
`12:18.55`	`sylvanaar`	`i see, loads with only works coming out of the signon screeen`
`12:20.10`	`sylvanaar`	`wierd`
`12:20.13`	`sylvanaar`	`doesnt work`
`12:20.34`	`sylvanaar`	`what the hell`
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`12:21.13`	`sylvanaar`	`maybe fubar was loading it...`
`12:22.02`	`Kinkx`	`Ace2 and Prat only loaded didn't work :(`
`12:22.41`	`Gokie`	`Prat worked for me after I manually typed the command to load it`
`12:23.39`	`sbu`	`hmm - is it possible to set keybindings for stances?`
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`12:25.25`	`Kinkx`	`Yea`
`12:25.31`	`Kinkx`	`SpecialAction something`
`12:25.34`	`Kinkx`	`I'll go check`
`12:25.45`	`Kinkx`	`It's under the Blizzard keybindings`
`12:31.06`	`[Ammo]`	`standard is ctrl-f1 - f5`
`12:31.06`	`pb_ee1`	`You can try Alt + F1-F5 too :P`
`12:31.06`	`sbu`	`:p`
`12:31.06`	`Kinkx`	`SpecialAction Button 1-3 thats your Stances`
`12:31.06`	`sylvanaar`	`crap`
`12:31.07`	`sylvanaar`	`change LoadsWith -> LoadWith`
`12:31.07`	`Kinkx`	`Okie`
`12:31.07`	`sbu`	`thank you Kinkx`
`12:31.07`	`CIA-22`	`03sylvanaar * r36728 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: LoadsWith -> LoadWith`
`12:31.07`	`Kinkx`	`That worked :)`
`12:31.07`	`Kinkx`	`LoadWith: Ace2, LoadManagers: Ace2, OptionalDeps: Ace2`
`12:31.43`	`sylvanaar`	`dont need optionaldeps`
`12:31.43`	`Kinkx`	`Okie :)`
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`12:32.40`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`ehrm prat broken? ^^`
`12:32.53`	`phyber`	`http://pageoftext.com/wikiclock`
`12:33.02`	`Kinkx`	`FtH\|Daemona - works now :)`
`12:33.05`	`sylvanaar`	`its fixed now`
`12:33.06`	`Kinkx`	`Get the latest one`
`12:33.07`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`-.-`
`12:33.14`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`i got a new version 3 minutes ago ^^`
`12:33.22`	`sylvanaar`	`i had to make a chage to glorylib anyways`
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`12:33.48`	`sylvanaar`	`if it loads for you then dont worry FtH\|Daemona`
`12:33.56`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`seems like the change isnt up @ files yet`
`12:34.00`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`no it doesnt load atm`
`12:34.15`	`Fisker-`	`http://pageoftext.com/wikiclock`
`12:34.15`	`Fisker-`	`;D`
`12:34.32`	`sbu`	`mhh - are they going to make karazhan 5-man instance? :/`
`12:34.34`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`./prat -> type /help ....`
`12:34.44`	`sylvanaar`	`- /ace2 load Prat`
`12:35.04`	`sbu`	`trash just became ridiculous...`
`12:35.07`	`sylvanaar`	`then get update when its zipped`
`12:35.08`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`that just froze my client ;)`
`12:35.40`	`abraxas^`	`sbu: kara is the new ubrs`
`12:35.42`	`Kinkx`	`Is it bad to have DevTools loaded the whole time? It uses 2mb of UI mem PerformanceFu says, is /dteventrace working in the background or something?`
`12:36.02`	`sbu`	`abraxas^: finally it is, yes`
`12:36.08`	`sylvanaar`	`then edit the toc LoadsWith -> LoadWith`
`12:36.31`	`abraxas^`	`we went yesterday and it was so ridiculously easy, kind of crazy really`
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`12:37.38`	`Ominous`	`Fin: ping`
`12:38.02`	`sbu`	`abraxas^: same here..`
`12:38.20`	`CIA-22`	`03belazor * r36729 10Chronometer/ (Chronometer.toc Data/Hunter.lua):`
`12:38.20`	`CIA-22`	`Chronometer:`
`12:38.20`	`CIA-22`	`- TOC bump`
`12:38.20`	`CIA-22`	`- Added Mend Pet to Data/Hunter.lua`
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`12:42.04`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`thanks sylvanaar`
`12:42.11`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`works ok :)`
`12:42.17`	`Kinkx`	`Saroz - if I reload my UI with the latest sRaidFrames, then the titles of where my raid frames are, like "Warriors", "Mages", etc., they get stuck on my screen, can't remove them by show/hide either`
`12:42.46`	`Kinkx`	`Works fine on the first login, but if I reload my UI they appear and are stuck there`
`12:43.16`	`Saroz`	`update them Kinkx`
`12:43.20`	`Saroz`	`fixed it 30 min ago`
`12:43.25`	`Saroz`	`I hope`
`12:43.35`	`Kinkx`	`Hold on, I'll try from the SVN`
`12:44.42`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`lol, now my quartz is gone -.-`
`12:44.45`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`what i going on?`
`12:44.53`	`nymbia`	`http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/klhthreatmeter/#comment_258753`
`12:45.40`	`CIA-22`	`03Tristan * r36730 10ShammySpy/ShammySpy.lua:`
`12:45.40`	`CIA-22`	`ShammySpy:`
`12:45.40`	`CIA-22`	`- Some improvments on the Pulse`
`12:46.00`	`ilifin`	`whats this shammyspy`
`12:46.14`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`another totem addon? ^^`
`12:46.16`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`dunno`
`12:46.39`	`evl`	`~whatis ShammuySpy`
`12:46.54`	`evl`	`that's what we need!`
`12:46.55`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: or you could just stop talking to him and create an addon that kicks KTMs ass`
`12:47.11`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`ok, someone fubared a lib i guess... no quartz and no pitbull anymore`
`12:47.12`	`Iceroth`	`guess if he doesn't want to fix it, there's not much point with arguing`
`12:47.13`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`o.o`
`12:47.28`	`evl`	`curl http://wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/ShammySpy \| grep ## Notes:(\w+)`
`12:47.57`	`Kinkx`	`Saroz - Didn't work :(`
`12:48.18`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: at this point i think i'm just enjoying mocking him in front of his users >.>`
`12:48.18`	`sylvanaar`	`somone go into a bg with glorylib running and tell me if it has stopped giving errors`
`12:49.09`	`phyber`	`s/conslude/conclude/`
`12:49.11`	`vhaarr`	`rofl`
`12:49.40`	`nymbia`	`phyber: naw, his uncle`
`12:49.43`	`sylvanaar`	`ship it and bill 'em`
`12:49.43`	`Tupsi`	`nymbia: nice war you have there`
`12:49.49`	`nymbia`	`Tupsi: lol`
`12:50.02`	`vhaarr`	`dammit we need a violation module to handle aggro`
`12:50.11`	`sbu`	`hm`
`12:50.16`	`Tupsi`	`i never understand people unable to handle critisim`
`12:50.19`	`sbu`	`vharr: ktm replacement?`
`12:50.23`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`12:50.24`	`sbu`	`+a`
`12:50.33`	`Stephmw`	`~vhaarr++`
`12:50.37`	`sbu`	`hmhm - an make sure it doesnt become another ktm :o`
`12:50.48`	`sbu`	`well i have no idea why ktm is that bad (performance)... but.. :o`
`12:50.54`	`nymbia`	`heh`
`12:51.04`	`Chompers`	`kenco is such a bitch`
`12:51.32`	`Fisker-`	`like Boubouille :(`
`12:51.45`	`Boubouille`	`don't highlight me :(`
`12:51.47`	`Boubouille`	`it makes me sad :(`
`12:51.55`	`Tupsi`	`well he is the only one writing such an addon, so he has some sort of luxury atm`
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`12:52.00`	`alext`	`any of you messed around with pitbull?`
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`12:52.08`	`alext`	`the unitframes are nice but I was trying to use them in a raid setting last night`
`12:52.11`	`Tupsi`	`alext as in using it?`
`12:52.11`	`Fisker-`	`i won't highlight you for a week if you write a wowhead parser for itemstats :P`
`12:52.12`	`phyber`	`alext: it bit my face off. woof.`
`12:52.15`	`alext`	`yeah using it`
`12:52.18`	`Stephmw`	`alext: PitBull is always being messed around with... it's quite disturbed`
`12:52.23`	`alext`	`I am not using pitbulls raid frames`
`12:52.29`	`alext`	`but it lagged me hardcore in karazhan last night`
`12:52.36`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`it makes me sad, that blizzard managed to lockdown me on neutral netherwing reputation with 300 repu missing because i cant find a single netherwing egg !`
`12:52.37`	`alext`	`put back good old trusty AG_UF and everything was good`
`12:52.57`	`alext`	`Stephmw: lots of updates/changes on pitbull eh?`
`12:52.59`	`Tupsi`	`i have a strange raidframe box latley, not sure if this is ora2 or pitbull though, never botherd to check`
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`12:53.15`	`phyber`	`FtH\|Daemona: I couldn't find them last night either. And there wern't many people farming the area. must be a really, really low spawn rate.`
`12:53.16`	`Stephmw`	`alext: it's always improving`
`12:53.16`	`alext`	`Tupsi: does it have an orange header for the box?`
`12:53.36`	`Tupsi`	`puh, no clue actualy`
`12:53.37`	`sylvanaar`	`if hes using polling he will have a constant rate of cpu usage which over time will make his addon look like it uses alot of cpu time, but the profiler isnt able to say to what degree the CPU was being used at the time - it could have been idle time`
`12:53.41`	`phyber`	`FtH\|Daemona: or they bugged and don't respawn ;)`
`12:53.43`	`Tupsi`	`just little symbols for each char`
`12:53.46`	`nymbia`	`~seen jjsheets`
`12:54.19`	`purl`	`jjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19d 12h 1m 40s ago, saying: 'bluntmaster. sounds like a funny name for a pot smoking dope fiend. :)'.`
`12:54.20`	`alext`	`Stephmw: I figured`
`12:54.20`	`ilifin`	`~botsnack`
`12:54.20`	`purl`	`thanks, ilifin`
`12:54.20`	`alext`	`tupsi`
`12:54.20`	`alext`	`sounds like BananaBar2`
`12:54.20`	`alext`	`?`
`12:54.21`	`Tupsi`	`ahh yes, that could be`
`12:54.21`	`alext`	`BananaBar2 gives you 40 small boxes which show what each raid member is targeting`
`12:54.21`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: I don't think you understand how the % CPU works in PerformanceFu.`
`12:54.25`	`Tupsi`	`yeah that must be it!`
`12:54.26`	`nymbia`	`where does that guy disappear to?`
`12:54.39`	`alext`	`Tupsi: is your bananabar2 still working?`
`12:55.04`	`alext`	`I completely deleted bananabar2 from the interface folder and all the LUA's...but when i try to load the latest version, wow just locks up on the loading screen`
`12:55.05`	`Tupsi`	`good question, i did not raid last night`
`12:55.08`	`alext`	`so its either an addon issue or a conflict`
`12:55.12`	`sylvanaar`	`yes i do. im saying that a polled design will show high cpu use`
`12:55.22`	`Tupsi`	`bur was able to load the whole thing`
`12:55.32`	`Tupsi`	`only got same chatframe issues, nothing serious`
`12:55.37`	`alext`	`oh`
`12:55.41`	`alext`	`damn it must be on my box than that sucks`
`12:55.49`	`alext`	`i love the addon but i cant even use it anymore because of the lockup`
`12:55.50`	`nymbia`	`if you're scanning and evaluating all your buffs and gear every OnUpdate`
`12:55.58`	`nymbia`	`then damn right you're gonna show high cpu usage`
`12:55.59`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah`
`12:56.19`	`sylvanaar`	`but it could have been idle time`
`12:56.32`	`nymbia`	`i dont even wanna know what it gets up to when the GUI's up and you're in combat..`
`12:56.35`	`Tupsi`	`nymbia do you still have time beside your klm war for manufac? :-)`
`12:56.42`	`nymbia`	`Tupsi: hell yeah`
`12:56.45`	`nymbia`	`;)`
`12:56.56`	`sylvanaar`	`nymbia its a constant rate from what he says`
`12:57.05`	`Tupsi`	`have a little issue which seems related using manufac and charprofiler`
`12:57.10`	`nymbia`	`sylvanaar: i don't believe him >.>`
`12:57.21`	`nymbia`	`sylvanaar: even if it is constant, it's too damn much.`
`12:57.29`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, im just playing devils advocate`
`12:57.33`	`nymbia`	`;)`
`12:57.34`	`Tupsi`	`not sure if you can fix it or if its a charprof problem though`
`12:57.41`	`nymbia`	`Tupsi: whats it do?`
`12:58.04`	`Tupsi`	`lets say i start fresh and enter manufac for the first time and havent touched any prof so far`
`12:58.30`	`Tupsi`	`when i come to the thing to do itself there is your usual green "open something" line to click`
`12:59.03`	`Tupsi`	`when i do that, i see charprof trying to scan my prof (in the chatframe) and it seems to fail`
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`12:59.07`	`alext`	`Tupsi: side question when you have a moment, about BananaBar2`
`12:59.18`	`nymbia`	`Tupsi: huh.`
`12:59.21`	`Tupsi`	`and instead of the three line "do 1, do x, do all" i get "cant do anything"`
`12:59.41`	`nymbia`	`Tupsi: probably missing data from the server`
`12:59.53`	`Tupsi`	`then i need to open my spellbook and hit the prof a few times until charprof has successfully scanned the prof.`
`13:00.03`	`Tupsi`	`when i enter manufac afterwards everything is as it should be`
`13:00.24`	`nymbia`	`sometimes it takes a few clicks like that to even get manufac working right`
`13:00.34`	`nymbia`	`usually it's just missing item data from the server`
`13:00.39`	`nymbia`	`especially after a patch`
`13:00.51`	`Tupsi`	`i will try disableing the auto scanning of charprof tonight and see if this helps`
`13:00.53`	`Kinkx`	`Saroz - It's just r36645 that has the stuck titles problem in sRaidFrames for me, the previous version everything works fine`
`13:01.06`	`Tupsi`	`nymbia has nothing to do with the patch, already happened last week`
`13:01.10`	`Saroz`	`Kinkx, the newest should work?`
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`13:01.15`	`nymbia`	`Tupsi: hmm.`
`13:01.17`	`Tupsi`	`alext whats up with the bananas`
`13:01.31`	`phyber`	`wasn't there a Launcher patch last week that cleared out the itemcache too?`
`13:01.36`	`Kinkx`	`"sRaidFrames: Create the frames just a bit sooner." Thats revision, has the problem for me.. latest one`
`13:01.38`	`Tupsi`	`i think charprof interferes with manfac in getting the prof info`
`13:01.41`	`alext`	`Have you figured out, when in "modification" mode or whatever it is, how to link things?`
`13:01.50`	`alext`	`like instead of moving raid icons individually`
`13:01.52`	`alext`	`moving them as a group`
`13:01.59`	`Kinkx`	`"sRaidFrames: Remove Feign Death hacks, add Feign Death as a status" <-- everything works fine`
`13:02.00`	`sbu`	`Cryect: Recount doesnt sync any data?`
`13:02.01`	`alext`	`initially their all linked from a fresh install`
`13:02.06`	`Tupsi`	`alext sorry, i never really "used" that addon so far, was only curious what it might do`
`13:02.09`	`alext`	`ah ok`
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`13:02.19`	`alext`	`I have used it for awhile and never figured that out`
`13:02.20`	`Tupsi`	`not raidleading any longer`
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`13:02.37`	`alext`	`ah ok`
`13:02.48`	`Tupsi`	`leaving that to young people now .-)`
`13:02.55`	`alext`	`I tried emailing the author but i gota use another account i guess, someone off my IP for my shared hosting must have been spamming`
`13:03.07`	`Saroz`	`Kinkx, thats not the latest`
`13:03.16`	`alext`	`hopefully the author can read english because his website is in german ;]`
`13:03.23`	`sylvanaar`	`grr files needs to hurry up`
`13:03.27`	`Saroz`	`Kinkx: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/6853f4d6b565c082`
`13:03.32`	`Saroz`	`New Revision: 36723`
`13:03.41`	`alext`	`Tupsi: thanks for the reply though ;]`
`13:03.55`	`Tupsi`	`alext just direct him to me in that case, as i am german .-)`
`13:04.03`	`alext`	`ah nice, thanks ;]`
`13:04.15`	`Chompers`	`has anyone done the Adversarial Blood quest yet?`
`13:04.26`	`Kinkx`	`Saroz - That version isn't on files.wowace.com or on the SVN o_o`
`13:04.29`	`sylvanaar`	`looks like its going every hour`
`13:04.33`	`Chompers`	`trying to find out if the drops are lootable by everyone`
`13:04.52`	`Saroz`	`Kinkx, lag?`
`13:05.09`	`Tupsi`	`really a shame you guys broke 1.7 compat`
`13:05.13`	`Kinkx`	`I guess so, it's not there`
`13:05.22`	`Tupsi`	`now me lazy bitch needs to update my UA by hand`
`13:06.23`	`Tupsi`	`nymbia so back to klm, your basicly saying that things steals way to much cpu power for its use?`
`13:06.36`	`nymbia`	`Tupsi: yeah`
`13:08.33`	`nymbia`	`Tupsi: but that's kinda 'old news'.. all i'm trying to get across is that the profiling numbers are accurate.`
`13:09.00`	`nymbia`	`anyway, i'm off for a bit, later guys`
`13:09.09`	`Tupsi`	`well the real question here is, could it be done better, or do you need that much cpu for the task anyway?`
`13:09.12`	`Tupsi`	`bye`
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`13:10.13`	`healmuth`	`hey there`
`13:10.31`	`healmuth`	`anybody around with some lua knowledge? :p`
`13:10.35`	`phyber`	`no, that much CPU isn't needed. Kenco seems to be doing it like that because he doesn't know about using buckets for event processing.`
`13:11.09`	`Iceroth`	`i have a feeling i've asked this before but what are your favourite tooltip addons in addition to tinytip? i'm mostly looking to get item icons (like idcard which gave me errors yesterday) and easier comparison between items`
`13:11.25`	`phyber`	`so instead of processing a ton of events as they arrive (eg, you got a res) he just processes stuff all the time.`
`13:11.30`	`Tim`	`healmuth, you've come to the right place. please state your question and someone should help you soon.`
`13:11.49`	`phyber`	`Iceroth: IDCard + RatingBuster`
`13:12.15`	`healmuth`	`Tim: I've a little problem with a Magtheridon addon. It returns me a string error but i can't figure out the problem :/`
`13:12.36`	`Iceroth`	`oh yeah, ratingbuster too ofc.. i mean the actual item tooltips themselves`
`13:13.14`	`Tim`	`healmuth, can't say i can help.. i have no experience with lua at all.. if you post the error on http://ace.pastey.net then state the full question and a link to the pastey i'm sure someone will be able to help you.`
`13:16.18`	`healmuth`	`alright`
`13:16.21`	`healmuth`	`thanks a bunch`
`13:16.44`	`Laric`	`hmm violations doesnt show up at all in my addon list.. really weird`
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`13:18.03`	`[Ammo]`	`Laric: it's so efficient you don't see it`
`13:18.18`	`sylvanaar`	`oh sure now files catches up`
`13:18.20`	`moonsorrow`	`it makes wow even faster!`
`13:18.47`	`sbu`	`haha, sold 3rd engineering tank gun now :o`
`13:18.49`	`Laric`	`[Ammo] whats the command for it? /violations ?`
`13:18.58`	`sbu`	`200g each for primal neter`
`13:18.58`	`[Ammo]`	`it has a V fubar plugin`
`13:19.03`	`Laric`	`k`
`13:20.05`	`[Ammo]`	`oh and also a bar display with an orange header`
`13:21.58`	`CIA-22`	`03sylvanaar 072.0-Public * r36731 10Prat/: Prat: Public Release Version`
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`13:22.45`	`Fisker-`	`is there any formula's on downranking nerfs?`
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`13:22.51`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ`
`13:22.52`	`CIA-22`	`03nevcairiel * r36732 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Bartender3: fix wierd sizing of stance buttons`
`13:22.54`	`Laric`	`bah.. found the problem..`
`13:23.04`	`Laric`	`thick fingers... checked it out to violations`
`13:23.21`	`[Ammo]`	`haha`
`13:23.41`	`harldephin`	`ooh.. updates.. good good..`
`13:26.19`	`nevcairiel`	`someone should improve Closetgnome_Switchter .. like i want it to change my trinket to the riding crop, and when i dismount, remember what i had on before and use that again.`
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`13:26.55`	`vhaarr`	`hm`
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`13:27.43`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: let me think about something that could make that easier`
`13:29.28`	`[Ammo]`	`I use mountme for the riding crop`
`13:29.29`	`Ominous`	`can you do bar:SetStatusBarColor(nil, nil, nil, 0) or does it have to be like bar:SetStatusBarColor(1, 1, 1, 0)`
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`13:29.40`	`[Ammo]`	`switcher I use only on my little rogue for stealth/nostealth`
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`13:30.48`	`nevcairiel`	`[Ammo]: can mountme do that for flight form too ? :D`
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`13:31.14`	`nevcairiel`	`but anyway, i use it for switching my relic too, when entering tree of life form`
`13:31.32`	`evl`	`LOL Sacred Relic level 7!!!`
`13:31.40`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: it does for me`
`13:31.47`	`[Ammo]`	`and switches back to the old trinket`
`13:31.53`	`[Ammo]`	`works fine in combo with closetgnome as well`
`13:32.32`	`Iceroth`	`i hate to have ridinc crop/the druid thing with my engi trinket`
`13:32.41`	`Iceroth`	`cooldown kicks in every time`
`13:32.52`	`Iceroth`	`should get some passive trinket :-/`
`13:33.22`	`nevcairiel`	`i replace my alchemist stone with the flying form trinket`
`13:34.03`	`[Ammo]`	`I replace sniff Royal Seal of Eldre'Thelas`
`13:34.11`	`[Ammo]`	`I need to farm a few more badges`
`13:34.25`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`13:34.40`	`Saroz`	`How do I unregister this: self:RegisterBucketEvent({"UNIT_HEALTH", "UNIT_MAXHEALTH"}, 0.05, "UNIT_HEALTH")`
`13:34.41`	`Saroz`	`?`
`13:34.55`	`Ominous`	`Saroz. give it a unique id?`
`13:35.03`	`Saroz`	`eh?`
`13:35.34`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah name the thing`
`13:35.57`	`[Ammo]`	`self:RegisterBucketEvent("SarozEventOfDoom", {"UNIT_HEALTH", "UNIT_MAXHEALTH"}, 0.05, "UNIT_HEALTH")`
`13:36.08`	`[Ammo]`	`or not`
`13:36.09`	`[Ammo]`	`euhm`
`13:36.10`	`vhaarr`	`Saroz: You pass in the table.`
`13:36.11`	`Ominous`	`hmm it dosent show that in the api`
`13:36.11`	`[Ammo]`	`not sure`
`13:36.14`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`13:36.15`	`nevcairiel`	`hm`
`13:36.18`	`[Ammo]`	`I was thinking scheduled events`
`13:36.19`	`[Ammo]`	`meh`
`13:36.22`	`vhaarr`	`Saroz: :UnregisterBucketEvent({"UNIT_HEALTH", "UNIT_MAXHEALTH"})`
`13:36.44`	`vhaarr`	`But it must be the same table.`
`13:36.49`	`vhaarr`	`So keep it in a local.`
`13:37.16`	`vhaarr`	`local x = {"UNIT_HEALTH", "UNIT_MAXHEALTH"}; :RegisterBucketEvent(x, ...); :UnregisterBucketEvent(x);`
`13:37.20`	`vhaarr`	`Saroz: fucking say something`
`13:37.25`	`vhaarr`	`"ok"`
`13:37.25`	`vhaarr`	`"wtf"`
`13:37.31`	`Saroz`	`ok wtf!`
`13:37.34`	`vhaarr`	`good`
`13:37.49`	`Chompers`	`waffles`
`13:37.51`	`nevcairiel`	`meh, MountMe doesnt work for flying form`
`13:38.09`	`Tupsi`	`mountme?`
`13:38.23`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: Doesn't ClosetGnome_Mount work?`
`13:38.31`	`krka`	`no thanks`
`13:38.33`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: fix it then :)`
`13:38.35`	`Tupsi`	`isnt that a bit overkill with the new condionells?`
`13:38.39`	`Gagorian`	`Someone beat Fisker- up!`
`13:38.44`	`Tupsi`	`hmm maybe a drood still needs it`
`13:38.46`	`nevcairiel`	`vhaarr: dunno, someone told me to use Switcher for that`
`13:39.04`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: I think that's because they want to use different sets for flight form and normal mounts.`
`13:39.12`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: If you can use the same set, then just use _Mount.`
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`13:39.38`	`vhaarr`	`actually, I could make _Mount support sets based on the mount name easily`
`13:39.50`	`Laric`	`[Ammo] suggestion for violation... change it from reset data on click to show on click :P`
`13:40.02`	`vhaarr`	`Laric: Suggestion; read the freaking tooltip.`
`13:40.11`	`nevcairiel`	`I only want a very simple addon to equip that damn charm of swift flight when entering flying form`
`13:40.12`	`nevcairiel`	`:(`
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`13:40.28`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: make one yourself, with SE-Mount it's like 5 lines of code :P`
`13:40.48`	`[Ammo]`	`or patch mountme ::p`
`13:40.55`	`Ominous`	`do i think wrong here, if a non base locale has translations registerd but is missing 1 translation the translation request will return the base locales translation for that wont it?`
`13:40.56`	`[Ammo]`	`it uses se-mount`
`13:41.12`	`vhaarr`	`Ominous: yes`
`13:41.13`	`Laric`	`vhaarr I do read tooltips.`
`13:41.17`	`phyber`	`Resetting the data should require the extra efford of the extra button press, since it's destructive. Showing/hiding it should happen on click. AKA, I support Laric ;)`
`13:41.24`	`vhaarr`	`Laric: Clearly you need new glasses, then.`
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`13:41.31`	`[Ammo]`	`I think he has the glasses`
`13:41.36`	`[Ammo]`	`he just wants shift-click and click reversed`
`13:41.38`	`phyber`	`or did it change recently and that's why you said read it? :)`
`13:41.49`	`Laric`	`[Ammo] exactly`
`13:41.53`	`[Ammo]`	`I kinda agree`
`13:41.59`	`[Ammo]`	`but shrug`
`13:42.04`	`[Ammo]`	`working as intended!`
`13:42.05`	`[Ammo]`	`now shop!`
`13:42.07`	`[Ammo]`	`shoo!`
`13:42.12`	`Saroz`	`doesnt seem to work vhaarr... Cannot unregister bucket event "table: 4325345"`
`13:42.15`	`vhaarr`	`I clear them more often than I hide/show the UI.`
`13:42.22`	`vhaarr`	`Saroz: That's a bug, then.`
`13:42.29`	`vhaarr`	`Saroz: Are you sure you use the same table?`
`13:42.32`	`Saroz`	`yes`
`13:42.33`	`Saroz`	`100%`
`13:42.36`	`vhaarr`	`Saroz: show me`
`13:42.47`	`Saroz`	`self:RegisterBucketEvent({"UNIT_HEALTH", "UNIT_MAXHEALTH"}, 0.05, "UNIT_HEALTH")`
`13:42.48`	`Saroz`	`self:UnregisterBucketEvent({"UNIT_HEALTH", "UNIT_MAXHEALTH"})`
`13:42.51`	`Saroz`	`do that`
`13:42.55`	`vhaarr`	`that won't work ...`
`13:42.56`	`nevcairiel`	`its not the same table`
`13:42.58`	`[Ammo]`	`l o c a l var`
`13:43.04`	`Saroz`	`... that sucks`
`13:43.07`	`vhaarr`	`local x = {"UNIT_HEALTH", "UNIT_MAXHEALTH"}; :RegisterBucketEvent(x, ...); :UnregisterBucketEvent(x);`
`13:43.12`	`[Ammo]`	`do what vhaarr does`
`13:43.14`	`[Ammo]`	`and be a happy camper`
`13:43.20`	`Saroz`	`that.. sucks`
`13:43.22`	`Gagorian`	`lol reading comprehension ftw :>`
`13:43.24`	`Ominous`	`vhaarr: then why when there are enUS translations and not deDE and calling BS[spell name] errors a missing translation on deDE but not enUS`
`13:43.27`	`Saroz`	`just loop the fucking table`
`13:43.31`	`wobin_`	`{"UNIT_HEALTH", "UNIT_MAXHEALTH"} and {"UNIT_HEALTH", "UNIT_MAXHEALTH"} are not the same table =)`
`13:43.41`	`vhaarr`	`Ominous: Because Babble libs are strict.`
`13:43.47`	`Ominous`	`oh`
`13:44.41`	`Saroz`	`that so sucks, why cant it just loop the table and unregister the events... brrr`
`13:45.01`	`evl`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5gyWKJgNZo`
`13:45.04`	`evl`	`I cannot stop laughting`
`13:45.09`	`evl`	`laughing*`
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`13:46.51`	`Ominous`	`vhaarr: why are they set to strict? what is the advantage`
`13:47.01`	`vhaarr`	`Ominous: because ckk is on crack.`
`13:47.07`	`vhaarr`	`I asked him to change this many months ago.`
`13:47.14`	`nevcairiel`	`get used to that ;)`
`13:47.15`	`Ominous`	`vhaarr: so do i need to /beg to him`
`13:47.34`	`Stephmw`	`Ominous: /beg is the least of the services you'll have to perform`
`13:47.52`	`Ominous`	`heh... thank god i live on the other side of the world then`
`13:47.57`	`nevcairiel`	`i wonder if SpecialEvents_Mount fires on Flight Form`
`13:48.11`	`nevcairiel`	`prolly not tho`
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`13:48.24`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: it should.`
`13:48.34`	`erb`	`anyone have trouble with pitbull in a raid setting lately?`
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`13:49.12`	`nevcairiel`	`vhaarr: its coded to parse buff tooltips i think, wonder what the tooltip of flying form looks like .. /me checks`
`13:49.37`	`nevcairiel`	`nop wont work`
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`13:50.04`	`nevcairiel`	`oh well, just going to make it stance based`
`13:50.59`	`alext`	`erb: already popped the question blerb`
`13:51.00`	`alext`	`;]`
`13:51.21`	`erb`	`f u volned`
`13:51.30`	`Fisker-`	`ARGH`
`13:51.35`	`Fisker-`	`how do i disable profiling? :o`
`13:51.50`	`phyber`	`reinstall windows is the only way!`
`13:51.54`	`Fisker-`	`nice!`
`13:52.01`	`phyber`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:52.04`	`phyber`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:52.09`	`knarf-`	`Fisker-PerformanceFu can do it, I guess :>`
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`13:52.14`	`Fisker-`	`yeah`
`13:52.15`	`Chompers`	`untick cpu profiling on performancefu`
`13:52.16`	`Fisker-`	`just found out`
`13:52.40`	`Fisker-`	`silly nymbia leading me down the path of damnation`
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`13:59.28`	`CIA-22`	`03ominous * r36733 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.toc Core.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: fxed something for AllInOne`
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`14:00.46`	`Necrathex`	`is there any way to make ag_uf show the built in debuff timers?`
`14:01.03`	`Matrix110`	`of course:P`
`14:01.16`	`Matrix110`	`but it could be quite complicated^^`
`14:01.30`	`Necrathex`	`:(`
`14:02.17`	`Kinkx`	`Hmm.. I can't see world pvp objectives on the map anymore with Cartographer`
`14:02.32`	`nevcairiel`	`hm`
`14:02.38`	`nevcairiel`	`somehow the files script is frozen`
`14:02.40`	`Iceroth`	`Kinkx, same`
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`14:03.33`	`Silviu-`	`Iceroth, Kinkx same ^^`
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`14:05.31`	`a-stray-cat`	`ckknight: ping`
`14:05.51`	`alext`	`same with me relating to the cartographer + pvp objective deal`
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`14:10.40`	`Lysithea`	`to check addon usage what should I download? fubar_usage?`
`14:10.44`	`nevcairiel`	`the carto map is overalying everything`
`14:11.16`	`CIA-22`	`03ominous * r36734 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: fix for AllInOne`
`14:11.24`	`nevcairiel`	`try opening any instance map`
`14:11.35`	`haarm`	`people who procced a cauldron discovery so far.. was it with major or greater absorbsion potions ?`
`14:11.53`	`kebinusan`	`major for me`
`14:11.59`	`haarm`	`i know some people in here said they got a discovery after only a few pots`
`14:12.05`	`kebinusan`	`and it was generally within making 5 potions`
`14:12.13`	`sbu`	`cartorgapher instance maps are broken :o`
`14:12.13`	`kebinusan`	`or 20 potions technically`
`14:12.45`	`Ominous`	`svn.wowace.com has frozen again`
`14:12.56`	`ashai\|hc`	`well I got a discover pre-patch at 64 whilst making some health pots`
`14:13.01`	`ashai\|hc`	`lower level ones`
`14:13.26`	`nevcairiel`	`normal discoverey yes, but cauldrons can only be discovered from making the major potions`
`14:13.42`	`nevcairiel`	`major resistance potions that is`
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`14:14.26`	`CIA-22`	`03athou * r36735 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua:`
`14:14.26`	`CIA-22`	`FuBar_CraftTimersFu:`
`14:14.26`	`CIA-22`	`- coloring some messages`
`14:14.59`	`sbu`	`nevcairiel: and only the resistance potions' type?`
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`14:15.10`	`nevcairiel`	`yes`
`14:15.25`	`nevcairiel`	`i discovered nature and frost cauldrons already`
`14:15.32`	`nevcairiel`	`and 3 flasks, only yesterday!`
`14:16.07`	`sbu`	`huh`
`14:16.29`	`sbu`	`ok, time to create hueg amount of pots - before they patch it again :o`
`14:16.46`	`nevcairiel`	`i created like 200 mana potions`
`14:16.58`	`nevcairiel`	`i will use them anyway, and i stockpiled dreaming glory :P`
`14:17.36`	`donra`	`did they really change the mats for mana pots?`
`14:17.39`	`cryogen`	`excuse my ignorance but what are cauldrons? :)`
`14:18.14`	`Ominous`	`where is the documentation for the ['*'] = {} and ['`
`14:18.29`	`Ominous`	`'] = {} notation`
`14:19.13`	`nevcairiel`	`donra: yes mana and health got switched`
`14:19.23`	`donra`	`odd, but handy :)`
`14:19.43`	`sbu`	`cryogen: resistance pot dispenser (25 charges afaik, similar to soul well)`
`14:20.04`	`wobin_`	`oh man, bookz is the best channel evar`
`14:20.12`	`cryogen`	`ah, nice`
`14:20.28`	`deltron`	`http://amiestreet.com/welcome <-- ftw`
`14:20.52`	`Tupsi`	`hehe, "resistance pot dispenser" sums it up nicely`
`14:20.59`	`CIA-22`	`03bam * r36736 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`14:20.59`	`CIA-22`	`ItemPrice-1.0:`
`14:20.59`	`CIA-22`	`- TOC version updated.`
`14:20.59`	`CIA-22`	`- Price updates`
`14:21.07`	`kenlyric`	`at the very least, they need to extend children's week a few days..`
`14:21.20`	`deltron`	`I did that chain last night`
`14:21.20`	`kenlyric`	`three mornings now without a server make me a sad panda.`
`14:21.23`	`Tupsi`	`why? you will get it again next year`
`14:21.27`	`deltron`	`that's a ton of rep`
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`14:21.42`	`deltron`	`the quest was extremely buggy for me at the dark portal`
`14:22.29`	`durcyn`	`sbu: they count as conjured items though, yes?`
`14:22.30`	`CIA-22`	`03bam * r36737 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua:`
`14:22.31`	`CIA-22`	`ItemPriceTooltip:`
`14:22.31`	`CIA-22`	`- No longer shows price for equipped bags. (Might make it an option later.)`
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`14:22.43`	`Chompers`	`saaad panda`
`14:23.17`	`wobin_`	`oh man`
`14:23.19`	`phyber`	`Bam__: have you seen the errors that ItemPriceTooltip gives when you're trading someone?`
`14:23.20`	`doktoreas`	`is there an addon the show the distance from a certain boss?`
`14:23.20`	`CIA-22`	`03mcc * r36738 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`14:23.21`	`CIA-22`	`Babble-2.2:`
`14:23.21`	`CIA-22`	`-Modify Chinese Traditional translation for 2.1.0 update in Taiwan`
`14:23.27`	`wobin_`	`I totally forgot about childrens week`
`14:23.28`	`wobin_`	`How could I!`
`14:23.31`	`Bam__`	`phyber: no?`
`14:23.34`	`Tupsi`	`durcyn yes they do`
`14:23.42`	`phyber`	`Bam__: OK, I'll get them later on. happens to me all the time ;)`
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`14:24.01`	`Bam__`	`phyber: thanks mate... I have 2 accounts so I better test it :)`
`14:24.02`	`durcyn`	`meh, that's slightly less than zesty`
`14:24.55`	`phyber`	`Bam__: it's something to do with the GetTradePlayerItemInfo() function, iirc.`
`14:25.18`	`Bam__`	`phyber: ok... maybe it changed somehow....`
`14:25.32`	`phyber`	`was happening before 2.1 too, so, it's not related to the patch ;)`
`14:25.37`	`Bam__`	`ohh`
`14:25.40`	`phyber`	`I just kept forgetting to say something :p`
`14:25.45`	`Bam__`	`I had tested that....`
`14:25.59`	`Bam__`	`anywhere in the trade window?`
`14:26.07`	`Bam__`	`or on specific slots?`
`14:26.19`	`phyber`	`I usually notice it when I'm being traded waters by mages.`
`14:26.31`	`Bam__`	`ok thanks`
`14:26.41`	`nevcairiel`	`why is cartographer_fishing using up so much memory ? :o`
`14:26.47`	`phyber`	`and I mouse over the icons, etc. because I'm bored waiting to click "Trade"`
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`14:27.59`	`Bam__`	`really strange I know I tested the trade window...`
`14:28.17`	`doktoreas`	`I found distance addon...is there anything like that in ace?`
`14:28.25`	`CIA-22`	`03mcc * r36739 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:`
`14:28.25`	`CIA-22`	`Babble-2.2:`
`14:28.26`	`CIA-22`	`-Modify Chinese Traditional translation for 2.1.0 update in Taiwan`
`14:30.37`	`phyber`	`Bam__: perhaps something else is playing with the tooltips too and IPT doesn't like it.`
`14:30.51`	`phyber`	`I also have KC_Items (Ace2) and RatingBuster loaded.`
`14:31.02`	`phyber`	`KCI uses its own tooltip, so that shouldn't be an issue.`
`14:31.08`	`phyber`	`oh, and Mendeleev.`
`14:31.19`	`Bam__`	`ok.. just about to test... running WoW 2 times on the same comp does stress it a bit :D`
`14:31.59`	`phyber`	`vhaarr: is there (or could there be) an option in Mendeleev to limit the amount of lines it puts in the tooltip?`
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`14:32.10`	`vhaarr`	`phyber: yeah feel free to add`
`14:32.11`	`phyber`	`mousing over common boss loot gives me a full screen of tooltip, for example ;)`
`14:32.21`	`phyber`	`nod. I'll hax later :)`
`14:33.22`	`nevcairiel`	`my ratingbuster is not working at all, anyone seen that before? its not showing a single line in the tooltip`
`14:34.20`	`Matrix110`	`some error?`
`14:34.21`	`Fisker-`	`anyone got a link to an insane healing paladin? :P`
`14:34.24`	`Fisker-`	`armory that is`
`14:34.44`	`nevcairiel`	`no error, nothing`
`14:34.47`	`Matrix110`	`just check some nihilium/last resort/dnt palas:P`
`14:34.56`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
`14:35.06`	`Xuerian`	`Fisker-: What, like that one with 2500 +heal?`
`14:35.09`	`Bam__`	`phyber: I get no errors :(`
`14:35.19`	`Iceroth`	`if only i'd remember the name... stormreaver eu, <pvp sux whens naxramas> horde guild, 4 letter name`
`14:35.24`	`phyber`	`Bam__: k. I'll get the proper errors from BugSack later :)`
`14:35.26`	`Iceroth`	`the fucker just wouldn't die`
`14:36.00`	`Bam__`	`phyber: cheers :)`
`14:36.34`	`CIA-22`	`03saroz * r36740 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua:`
`14:36.34`	`CIA-22`	`sRaidFrames:`
`14:36.34`	`CIA-22`	`- Now only creates frames once you join a raid`
`14:36.34`	`CIA-22`	`- Toggle Standby now works correctly, you won't get blank frames when going out of standby anymore.`
`14:36.34`	`CIA-22`	`Basically sRaidFrames are idle as hell when you are not in a raid.`
`14:36.43`	`Fisker-`	`perhaps Xuerian :P`
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`14:37.30`	`nadas`	`sylvanaar: you around?`
`14:38.23`	`CIA-22`	`03saroz * r36741 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Unregistering bucket events sucks, so taking care of that some other day.`
`14:38.55`	`kenlyric`	`my bucket!`
`14:39.01`	`Saroz`	`fucking buckets`
`14:40.02`	`vhaarr`	`Saroz: nub`
`14:40.07`	`CIA-22`	`03saroz * r36742 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Well, guess we can unregister UNIT_AURA`
`14:40.13`	`Saroz`	`man, that API is just annoying`
`14:40.22`	`vhaarr`	`it's not annoying, it's fine`
`14:40.28`	`Saroz`	`_annoying_`
`14:41.01`	`Chompers`	`just got a guild group to do those son of gruul quests Saroz, anything i should know?`
`14:41.16`	`Saroz`	`no`
`14:41.19`	`Saroz`	`tank spank`
`14:41.23`	`phyber`	`lower there health to zero to win.`
`14:41.26`	`phyber`	`s/there/their/`
`14:41.28`	`Saroz`	`bingo`
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`14:41.41`	`Fisker-`	`looks like nihilum players are unequipping their gear before they log off`
`14:41.42`	`Saroz`	`s/bingo/bingo`
`14:41.46`	`Fisker-`	`atleast a lot of it is missing on their chars`
`14:41.56`	`Chompers`	`why fisker?`
`14:41.56`	`Saroz`	`pssh`
`14:41.56`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`morning all!`
`14:42.05`	`Fisker-`	`why should i know? :o`
`14:42.08`	`Saroz`	`Nihilum is not number one anymore`
`14:42.13`	`nevcairiel`	`aww statlogiclib is stupid`
`14:42.15`	`Chompers`	`you're secretly a member :X`
`14:42.24`	`MikkZzz`	`nevcairiel: no rly?`
`14:42.38`	`sylvanaar`	`nadas yes`
`14:42.41`	`nevcairiel`	`it compares the locale name`
`14:42.41`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`please, someone could tell me how to use clearfonts? I copied to addons folder but nothing seems diferent. Should I do something else to enable it?`
`14:43.00`	`nevcairiel`	`and for enGB clients, its normal to use enUS locale .. but the name is different :(`
`14:43.07`	`nadas`	`sylvanaar: i found a tiny bug in the FontSize module it seems..`
`14:43.09`	`sbu`	`Fisker-: not its T5`
`14:43.11`	`nadas`	`sylvanaar: Prat-2.0 36728.36691\Prat_Modules\modules\FontSize.lua:238: attempt to call global 'BuildFontList' (a nil value)`
`14:43.35`	`nadas`	`missing "self:" :)`
`14:43.55`	`kenlyric`	`if you miss yourself, you're doing it wrong.`
`14:44.08`	`nadas`	`haha`
`14:44.14`	`sbu`	`Fisker-: kungen got like 15k HP, impossible with only 6 stamina items`
`14:44.34`	`CIA-22`	`03rabbit * r36743 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Unregister events properly.`
`14:45.04`	`Saroz`	`psssh`
`14:45.14`	`[Ammo]`	`haha`
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`14:46.33`	`Verxion`	`hey everyone`
`14:47.27`	`Saroz`	`vhaarr, just need that FindUnitFrames() now, zzzz :p`
`14:47.41`	`Fisker-`	`ah sbu :P`
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`14:48.42`	`vhaarr`	`Saroz: heh :P`
`14:49.08`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`guys. How do I use clearfonts? Do I have to do something else after copy to addons folder`
`14:49.09`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`?`
`14:49.12`	`CIA-22`	`03gagorian * r36744 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:`
`14:49.12`	`CIA-22`	`DrDamage:`
`14:49.12`	`CIA-22`	`- Multiply low level factor into positive final modifiers. (ex. Blessing of Light on below level 20 spells)`
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`14:50.44`	`Mikk`	`YammYgirlcoding: read the manual`
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`14:50.54`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`i did. but didnt get it point`
`14:51.36`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`i wonder if clearfont needs some extra setup to work ingame`
`14:52.26`	`Kirkburn`	`What version of ClearFont?`
`14:52.35`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`last one`
`14:52.40`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`clearfont2`
`14:52.51`	`Kirkburn`	`It should work without needing anything done`
`14:53.19`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`u mean if I delete the original wow\fonts they won't be missed?`
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`14:53.50`	`Kirkburn`	`It shouldn't make a difference - you don't have to remove it`
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`14:54.33`	`CIA-22`	`03nevcairiel * r36745 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: fixed bug with foreign clients, still bugged for enGB tho`
`14:54.42`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`hmm maybe it's just me, but the texts dont really clearer for me :(`
`14:55.11`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`look*`
`14:55.13`	`Ominous`	`nevcairiel: damn u:P`
`14:56.50`	`Fisker-`	`NO U`
`14:56.50`	`nevcairiel`	`dont tell me, i am playing with enGB myself :P`
`14:56.51`	`CIA-22`	`03sylvanaar * r36746 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/FontSize.lua: Prat: missing self on call to BuildFontList`
`14:56.51`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`skipping... Anyone knows any addon that records what mobs skins what, and where, and how much for each area? I used to have SkinInfo, but it disappeared from sites. Any new mod that do the same available?`
`14:57.36`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`it had a search. i could type 'hide' and it showed which mob and where`
`14:57.42`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`for the best drop rates`
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`15:00.25`	`Ominous`	`in macros is it /use [modifier=shift] or .use [modifier:2]`
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`15:03.17`	`nevcairiel`	`[modifier:shift]`
`15:03.36`	`nevcairiel`	`= is only used for target`
`15:05.24`	`kenlyric`	`YammYgirlcoding: no idea, but such a mod would probably be skewed, since it would be based on your previous experience.`
`15:05.31`	`kenlyric`	`searching wowhead is probably a better way.`
`15:05.52`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`but i do want it to be based on my previous exp :)`
`15:06.10`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`skininfo was. but it disappeared from mod sites. guess the coder died or something`
`15:06.13`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`:p`
`15:07.39`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`anyone know what is wrong when bar switching doesnt work in combat for stances/stealth and autobar is already disabled?`
`15:07.54`	`nevcairiel`	`another addon tainting your ass ? :p`
`15:08.05`	`nevcairiel`	`no idea tho, only heard about autobar`
`15:08.25`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`the freaky thing is, it worked yesterday`
`15:08.30`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`15:08.31`	`CIA-22`	`03bam * r36747 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua:`
`15:08.31`	`CIA-22`	`ItemPriceTooltip:`
`15:08.31`	`CIA-22`	`- Hook into Link's tooltips: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Links`
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`15:09.34`	`nevcairiel`	`is there any cool tradeskill mod out there which looks basicly like the default tradeskill UI, only bigger, and allows to link the new item recipes?`
`15:10.38`	`deltron`	`sigh why can't gmail use imap? :P`
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`15:11.05`	`nevcairiel`	`like ATSW, without the queue features, only big window :o`
`15:13.07`	`durcyn`	`hmm, you might see if FramesResized touches crafting windows`
`15:13.24`	`Mikk`	`nevcairiel: i know there's something on the ace svn that only resizes some default small frames`
`15:13.30`	`Mikk`	`craft windows etc`
`15:14.13`	`sbu`	`hmm, "Thundering Skyfire Diamond" is a world drop?`
`15:14.16`	`hypetech`	`lol blizz has just given up`
`15:14.17`	`Mikk`	`what i want is something that looks like the default frames, except higher, and does queueing and item purchasing`
`15:14.22`	`hypetech`	`"we don't have an ETA..sorry"`
`15:14.24`	`hypetech`	`lol`
`15:14.58`	`hypetech`	`I'm going to hound billing for a free month for my extended downtime ^_^`
`15:15.31`	`Vangual`	`hrm quartz made lod? how do i properly tell it to load all the time?`
`15:15.55`	`Mikk`	`what's the point of a lod casting bar?`
`15:16.12`	`kenlyric`	`what if you don't cast!`
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`15:16.17`	`durcyn`	`sbu: all skyfire and earthstorm are crafted`
`15:16.32`	`Mikk`	`the lod madness is getting slightly silly imo`
`15:16.36`	`kebinusan`	`plus its modular so you may not want some modules loaded`
`15:16.44`	`sbu`	`durcyn: er sorry, the "design" :o`
`15:16.59`	`Vangual`	`the modularity is great, but I want to load the main module all the time`
`15:17.00`	`Morgh`	`Was there an addon that measured the resource-usage of other addons coming for/in 2.1?`
`15:17.05`	`Ominous`	`create critical error whenever i start wow`
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`15:17.23`	`Vangual`	`now I don't even have a /quartz command and ACP is telling me it's LoD and not loaded`
`15:17.31`	`Bam__`	`Morgh: FuBar_PerformanceFu does`
`15:17.33`	`hypetech`	`anybody have any resource usage comparison insight for pitbull vs. aguf?`
`15:17.43`	`Vangual`	`so how do i tell it to "load all the time"?`
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`15:17.55`	`alext`	`hypertech: bunch of us were having problems with pitbull in raids`
`15:17.58`	`sbu`	`oh heroic boss gems are no longer unique? nice`
`15:17.59`	`alext`	`even when not displaying the raid frames`
`15:18.02`	`Morgh`	`Bam__: It tells me how much i.e. Skinner is using?`
`15:18.09`	`alext`	`i dont have actual numbers for you, but i was raiding last night so i know its an issue`
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`15:18.37`	`hypetech`	`ah`
`15:18.38`	`alext`	`I will say that other than raids, pitbull seems to perform just as well as AG_UF in all other situations. Not getting any lag or a massive increase in UI memory usage`
`15:18.44`	`Bam__`	`Morgh: yea it can show the 20 most resource using addons... sorted by memory or CPU usage`
`15:18.45`	`hypetech`	`I'll stick with aguf/sraidframes then :)`
`15:18.57`	`Morgh`	`Bam__: hugs Thanks alot!`
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`15:19.06`	`deltron`	`I replaced aguf/sraidframes with pitbull :P`
`15:19.07`	`alext`	`hypetech: pitbull seems to have been updated 2-3 times since I used it last night`
`15:19.10`	`alext`	`so i wouldnt rule it out yet`
`15:19.12`	`Chompers`	`Grid is really good as replacement raidframes`
`15:19.18`	`Chompers`	`unless you're a healer`
`15:19.20`	`alext`	`its being actively developed so i assume that will get fixed`
`15:19.29`	`Morgh`	`Bam__: There was some addons that completely drop-kicked the resources in 2.1`
`15:19.38`	`Morgh`	`*addon(s)`
`15:19.42`	`hypetech`	`wow. I haven't seen quartz before now. it can do the job of CT_BuffMod?`
`15:19.42`	`kenlyric`	`Chompers: you mean "especially if you're a healer"`
`15:19.53`	`Bam__`	`Morgh: erm drop-kicked? :P`
`15:19.56`	`Chompers`	`its good as a healer?`
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`15:20.00`	`kenlyric`	`it's epic.`
`15:20.05`	`Chompers`	`interesting`
`15:20.06`	`Chosi`	`is there a rogue poison buying addon that works??`
`15:20.07`	`kenlyric`	`All that information in a tiny little space.`
`15:20.11`	`Morgh`	`Yeah, from normal fps of 25 to 15 and less.`
`15:20.17`	`Morgh`	`@ Bam__`
`15:20.20`	`vhaarr`	`Chosi: Hemlock doesn't work?`
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`15:20.30`	`kenlyric`	`i seriously can't figure out how I healed 40 man raids without it... all that eye travel.`
`15:20.31`	`Wixi`	`I just use grid as a nice minimalist raid and group frames, and i'm a dpser`
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`15:20.38`	`Chosi`	`well i was using some other thing before`
`15:20.40`	`Bam__`	`Morgh: sounds bad :(`
`15:20.42`	`Chosi`	`that doesn't work anymore`
`15:20.44`	`Chosi`	`lemme try this`
`15:21.05`	`Fisker-`	`hmm`
`15:21.11`	`Bam__`	`Morgh: but 25 sounds bad already :P`
`15:21.16`	`Fisker-`	`anyone know why my "Report Spam" feature is missing from the dropdown menu? :o`
`15:21.49`	`nevcairiel`	`on friendlist or in guild?`
`15:21.50`	`Morgh`	`Bam__: Old computer, so trust me when I say 25 is fan-friggin-tastic ;)`
`15:21.55`	`Bam__`	`hehe`
`15:21.55`	`kebinusan`	`I hate the confirmation dialigue on the report spam option`
`15:22.08`	`hypetech`	`so any new additions to the wowace family that are "must have" mods?`
`15:22.19`	`Fisker-`	`nope nevcairiel :o`
`15:22.26`	`kebinusan`	`hypetech: Quartz is really nice especially if you're a warlock`
`15:22.34`	`kebinusan`	`the timer functions for dots is verynice`
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`15:22.41`	`alext`	`quartz hmmm`
`15:22.42`	`Morgh`	`Quartz is nice even as a melee. It has a swing-timer`
`15:22.43`	`Bam__`	`is spam slipping through Blizzard's filter?`
`15:22.45`	`alext`	`better than dotimer`
`15:22.45`	`alext`	`?`
`15:22.53`	`sylvanaar`	`Vangual you have to install Supply&Demand it looks like`
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`15:22.56`	`alext`	`i thought dotimer was the be all, end all for warlock timers`
`15:22.58`	`hypetech`	`kebinusan: ya I'm a mage. I'm just about to try quartz to replace eCastingBar and CT_BuffMod`
`15:23.02`	`sylvanaar`	`oh wow`
`15:23.07`	`kenlyric`	`wait, those little timers are from quartz, not pitbull?`
`15:23.11`	`sylvanaar`	`scrolled back`
`15:23.16`	`Vangual`	`sylvanaar: hmm, i have that but it's not showing up in S&D`
`15:23.31`	`kenlyric`	`I spent like 20 minutes trying to find the settings for those timers in pitbull :)`
`15:23.47`	`Tornhoof`	`:D`
`15:23.56`	`kenlyric`	`guess they just happened to appear on the screan right next to my pitbull frame.`
`15:23.58`	`Mikk`	`Bam__: blizzard has not implemented a filter. only a rate throttle for whispers, and a means of reporting spammers.`
`15:24.01`	`sylvanaar`	`Vangual you may have an out of date version`
`15:24.05`	`Bam__`	`damn.. my mouse has started double-clicking when I only click once :/`
`15:24.22`	`alext`	`kebinusan: have you used dotimers? If so, would you consider quartz to be "better" than dotimers?`
`15:24.27`	`Vangual`	`sylvanaar: think i have the one from wowace, checking if there's a newer one somewhere else`
`15:24.30`	`alext`	`i am interested in trying something new if so`
`15:24.33`	`Bam__`	`Mikk: ohh.... it's called a filter in the options.. I think`
`15:24.47`	`art3mis`	`quartz is perty`
`15:24.48`	`Mikk`	`that only catches repeat spam i think`
`15:24.56`	`Bam__`	`Mikk: well I suppose in a broad sense it's a filter too`
`15:24.59`	`art3mis`	`classtiemrs is nice too, albeit a bit limited`
`15:25.01`	`knarf-`	`http://www.butternutjelly.com/home/2007/5/17/you-can-do-it.html`
`15:25.08`	`Mikk`	`i.e. idiots yelling the same thing 50 times`
`15:25.11`	`Tornhoof`	`the only nice thing about the blizzard thing is that it can block the whole account`
`15:25.12`	`alext`	`yah dont want anything limited, want features and customization`
`15:25.18`	`Tornhoof`	`they should have exposed that via api`
`15:25.27`	`Mikk`	`No shit`
`15:25.35`	`Mikk`	`Well, at least the blocking bit`
`15:25.38`	`Tornhoof`	`yeh`
`15:25.45`	`Mikk`	`I can see how they don't want automated reporting`
`15:26.01`	`hypetech`	`what is the difference between focus and target?`
`15:26.10`	`Fisker-`	`you can do automated reporting already`
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`15:26.19`	`Mikk`	`Fisker-: orly?`
`15:26.19`	`Bam__`	`yea I guess.. but it's sort of a testament to the fact that there is a problem they need to solve somehow`
`15:26.21`	`Fisker-`	`yarly`
`15:26.26`	`Mikk`	`how?`
`15:26.36`	`Fisker-`	`"Report Spam" is available to addons`
`15:26.43`	`Fisker-`	`atleast slouken say it was`
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`15:26.58`	`Mikk`	`this reminds me that i need to re-scan the api`
`15:27.13`	`Fisker-`	`though he did say it could be limited by the fact that if they recieve too many false reports`
`15:27.24`	`Bam__`	`and work on WoWBench :P`
`15:28.26`	`Bam__`	`hmm svn.wowace.com does not seem to get updated with the latest checkins`
`15:28.45`	`hypetech`	`what are "focus" and "mirror" as far as casting bars go?`
`15:29.05`	`Mikk`	`Bam__: you're aware that there's an up to 20 minute delay on sync?`
`15:29.12`	`Ominous`	`no`
`15:29.14`	`Ominous`	`its broken`
`15:29.21`	`sbu`	`hypetech: focus = casts of your focus target`
`15:29.29`	`Bam__`	`Mikk: is that not only on files.wowace.com?`
`15:29.38`	`Ominous`	`you are correct`
`15:30.06`	`sylvanaar`	`Vangual did you restart your game`
`15:30.20`	`hypetech`	`sbu: lol. that's what I'm asking. what is a focus target?`
`15:30.23`	`Mikk`	`Bam__: true, i'm talking outta my arse again. bad mikk.`
`15:30.40`	`Bam__`	`latest revision on dev.wowace.com is 36747, on svn.wowace.com the latest is 36730`
`15:30.49`	`Vangual`	`sylvanaar: not yet since updating and logging on and noticing the changes`
`15:31.03`	`sylvanaar`	`Vangual do that`
`15:31.07`	`Vangual`	`k will do`
`15:31.14`	`knarf-`	`odd when I zone into hellfire peninsuella my fps drops to 2 :<`
`15:32.04`	`Chompers`	`well thats the ogre quests done, pretty good moneys eh Saroz`
`15:32.10`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`guys. is there a way to check if an specific addon is currently loaded?`
`15:32.23`	`Ominous`	`nymbia:[2007/05/24 16:30:47-481-x1]: Quartz_Buff\Buff.lua:411: Usage: <unnamed>:SetScale(scale`
`15:32.35`	`Saroz`	`ok, how does this #show shit work?`
`15:33.24`	`hypetech`	`lol...nobody knows what a focus target is? :(`
`15:33.40`	`Wixi`	`Focus is the target set by the /focus command`
`15:33.54`	`knarf-`	`focus target is your focus's target?`
`15:33.58`	`Morgh`	`Holy crap. I had no idea KLHTreatmeter ate up so much in resources.. :O I spikes to 2%, and that's when I'm in the bank Oo`
`15:33.59`	`knarf-`	`focus'`
`15:34.19`	`alext`	`Morgh: bankers generate alot of threat`
`15:34.35`	`Saroz`	`how does this #show shit work? anyone know?`
`15:34.39`	`alext`	`INTEREST YAH IN A PINT?`
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`15:34.50`	`Fisker-`	`http://blog.opendns.com/2007/05/22/google-turns-the-page/ <-i lol'd`
`15:34.52`	`Josh_Borke`	`Saroz: based on conditionals it changes the icon?`
`15:34.56`	`[dRaCo]`	`saroz: kinda... whatcha need?`
`15:35.02`	`Bam__`	`Saroz: #show Some Spellname`
`15:35.14`	`Saroz`	`can you make it conditional?`
`15:35.32`	`Saroz`	`#show [flyable] foo; bar`
`15:35.32`	`Bam__`	`according to patch notes you can now`
`15:35.41`	`nevcairiel`	`yes you can`
`15:35.47`	`Saroz`	`doesnt work!`
`15:35.49`	`nevcairiel`	`but if you use simple conditionals in the macro itself`
`15:35.56`	`nevcairiel`	`it will automatically use those`
`15:36.21`	`Saroz`	`example?`
`15:36.31`	`Iceroth`	`what's the difference between #show & #showtooltip?`
`15:36.35`	`Bam__`	`#show is only if you want to override the automagical detection of what to show`
`15:36.49`	`Bam__`	`#show is for feedback like range and cooldown I believe`
`15:36.52`	`[dRaCo]`	`#show will also change the icon, when u use the ? one, afaik`
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`15:37.04`	`Saroz`	`sahhhhh`
`15:37.05`	`Bam__`	`and icon yes`
`15:37.08`	`Weetas`	`hello`
`15:37.10`	`Saroz`	`it has to be set as the questionmark icon`
`15:37.11`	`Saroz`	`ftw`
`15:37.24`	`Bam__`	`yes`
`15:37.31`	`Weetas`	`is "classtimer" addon supposed to show hunter's trap timers?`
`15:37.35`	`Weetas`	`cuz i can't make them do that`
`15:37.59`	`Weetas`	`it*`
`15:38.12`	`Weetas`	`or is there a better addon to view hunter's timers`
`15:38.13`	`Bam__`	`isnt the trap timer identical to the cooldown on the spell now?`
`15:38.22`	`Weetas`	`no`
`15:38.28`	`a-stray-cat`	`<shamelessplug> try Sorren's Timers! </shameless plug>`
`15:38.35`	`Weetas`	`i'll try that ;)`
`15:38.46`	`Weetas`	`cuz i really like glos on classtimer bar ;)`
`15:38.51`	`Weetas`	`goes with my frames`
`15:38.51`	`Bam__`	`ah that was Flares they changed`
`15:38.56`	`Weetas`	`ye flare`
`15:39.00`	`Weetas`	`20 sec`
`15:39.01`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`guys. Can I check if an specific mod is currently loaded with lua?`
`15:39.10`	`a-stray-cat`	`stupid change, imo`
`15:39.33`	`Bam__`	`yea was fun to see several flares on the ground :P`
`15:39.33`	`Weetas`	`aya`
`15:39.38`	`Vangual`	`heh weird, is it intended that the mere presence of a loadmanager addon (no matter if the lm is disabled itself) causes the module to stay lod?`
`15:40.11`	`Xuerian`	`note to self, be careful when splicing wires with a xacto knife...`
`15:40.26`	`pastamancer`	`did you splice your fingers?`
`15:40.35`	`Xuerian`	`Just about :D`
`15:40.36`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`guys?`
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`15:41.03`	`haste`	`YammYgirlcoding: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php/World_of_Warcraft_API#AddOn_Functions`
`15:41.22`	`Xuerian`	`docs are your friends.`
`15:41.23`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`oh thanks!`
`15:41.35`	`Weetas`	`btw has any1 yet managed`
`15:41.39`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`that i dont know what exactly i'm looking for`
`15:41.40`	`Weetas`	`to make an addon for hunters mark`
`15:41.49`	`a-stray-cat`	`to track its applications?`
`15:41.52`	`Weetas`	`to show how much it stacked`
`15:41.53`	`Weetas`	`alredy`
`15:41.53`	`a-stray-cat`	`i dont see why you'd really want to know`
`15:41.56`	`Weetas`	`ye`
`15:42.03`	`Weetas`	`=]`
`15:42.13`	`hypetech`	`anybody know how to configure self buffs in quartz`
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`15:43.51`	`CIA-22`	`03rabbit * r36748 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Make sure to unregister all events on blizzard frames.`
`15:44.11`	`Fisker-`	`I wonder when the next armory update is due`
`15:44.14`	`haste`	`YammYgirlcoding: IsAddOnLoaded returns a value if it's loaded. You can also use GetAddOnInfo to get more information`
`15:44.15`	`Fisker-`	`must be sometime soon ;(`
`15:44.23`	`Fisker-`	`haven't even been updated for 2.1 or tier 5`
`15:44.26`	`Fisker-`	`silly n00bs`
`15:44.35`	`Weetas`	`btw it's weird that atlas loot always posps me a menu. every time i log on.`
`15:45.58`	`a-stray-cat`	`Tekkub: ping`
`15:46.52`	`Tekkub`	`meh?`
`15:46.55`	`Fisker-`	`lolol`
`15:47.02`	`Fisker-`	`they let the fugly fly animation stay`
`15:47.07`	`a-stray-cat`	`you wrote squeenix right?`
`15:47.25`	`a-stray-cat`	`:X`
`15:47.41`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`guys. can I create a function inside an if?`
`15:47.54`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`or, i mean, hook a function`
`15:48.00`	`a-stray-cat`	`sure, why not`
`15:48.18`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`hmm where is the addon name written? inside toc file?`
`15:48.27`	`Tekkub`	`yes a`
`15:48.41`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`title?`
`15:48.45`	`a-stray-cat`	`any plans to make the NWSE rotate along with the rotating minimap?`
`15:48.53`	`Tekkub`	`name comes from the folder, formatted title is in the TOC`
`15:49.12`	`Tekkub`	`no, you tried rotating square map? it's horendous`
`15:49.13`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`does the title and the folder must be the same?`
`15:49.25`	`a-stray-cat`	`its funny :P`
`15:49.38`	`Tekkub`	`rotating implies circular map to me`
`15:50.08`	`a-stray-cat`	`meh, it just implies that your center arrow is static to me :<`
`15:50.08`	`Morgh`	`Baggins is a CPU-hog :O`
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`15:50.08`	`Tekkub`	`plus I'll never use it, it'll only confuse me`
`15:50.13`	`Morgh`	`I had no idea it was that bad`
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`15:50.47`	`hypetech`	`Does quartz handle self buffs? or only focus and target?`
`15:50.54`	`a-stray-cat`	`oh well, i guess ill just have see if i can do it myself then :<`
`15:50.57`	`art3mis`	`"player"`
`15:51.04`	`art3mis`	`it does make little buffs`
`15:51.20`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`how do u 'not' the if? if( ! method() ) ?`
`15:51.21`	`art3mis`	`well scale isnt set but yees it does that as well`
`15:51.38`	`hypetech`	`art3mis: I don't see "player"`
`15:51.45`	`art3mis`	`in quartz?`
`15:51.50`	`art3mis`	`look harder ;P`
`15:52.13`	`hypetech`	`art3mis: wait sorry. I do see "player" but that's only casting bar options. No buff options`
`15:52.25`	`art3mis`	`one sec`
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`15:55.38`	`durcyn`	`hypetech: it's debuff timers for things you've yourself applied, only.`
`15:55.51`	`durcyn`	`so, maybe if you debuff yourself :o`
`15:55.58`	`hypetech`	`heh`
`15:55.59`	`Ominous`	`in macros can you do or? like /stopmacro [help or noexists`
`15:56.00`	`Morgh`	`Is there a way to disable KLHTreatmeter without logging out?`
`15:56.03`	`hypetech`	`well that's no fun`
`15:56.10`	`a-stray-cat`	`Morgh: use a mod like ACP?`
`15:56.21`	`hypetech`	`Morgh: /ktm disable`
`15:56.26`	`Morgh`	`ACP?`
`15:57.06`	`a-stray-cat`	`it allows you to enable/disable mods with a reloadui rather than logging out`
`15:57.10`	`Morgh`	`hypetech: Thanks alot. Being a bit rushed here, forgot slash-commands`
`15:57.18`	`a-stray-cat`	`but /ktm disable is probably better ;P`
`15:57.26`	`hypetech`	`np`
`15:57.27`	`art3mis`	`im pretty sure its "buff"`
`15:57.35`	`art3mis`	`but it doesnt seem to like showing ALL buffs`
`15:57.53`	`hypetech`	`art3mis: Ya I saw that section. but I don't think it handles self. meh`
`15:57.54`	`hypetech`	`oh well`
`15:58.00`	`art3mis`	`it does kind of`
`15:58.08`	`art3mis`	`with that enabled i see renews and stuff`
`15:58.12`	`hypetech`	`I like the casting bar part of it, I guess I'll just keep using CT_BuffMod for buffs`
`15:58.14`	`art3mis`	`just not things like shadow prot and fort`
`15:58.17`	`hypetech`	`well that's a hot/dot`
`15:58.31`	`art3mis`	`yeah thats all it shows`
`15:58.34`	`durcyn`	`hypetech: check out ElkBuffBar`
`15:58.43`	`[Ammo]`	`+S`
`15:58.47`	`art3mis`	`you cazn jury rig it though`
`15:58.47`	`durcyn`	`hypetech: or if you're feeling brave, the new "elkbuffbars" with an S`
`15:58.52`	`art3mis`	`if you set yerself as focus`
`15:58.59`	`art3mis`	`itll watch the focus buffs you cast`
`15:59.00`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`15:59.08`	`hypetech`	`art3mis: lol ya I did that, but I don't want to have to all the time`
`15:59.11`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`15:59.19`	`art3mis`	`i swear it used to show buffs`
`15:59.30`	`art3mis`	`just dont remember what i ticked`
`16:00.35`	`Wixi`	`Is there an ace equivelent of DoTimer which will show all my renews i have tocking on different people? not just the target i have selected`
`16:01.13`	`nevcairiel`	`HotCandy`
`16:01.31`	`nekoh`	`YammYgirlcoding: if not method() then`
`16:01.46`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`oh thanks. can I else?`
`16:01.52`	`nekoh`	`sure`
`16:01.55`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`nice`
`16:02.21`	`Wixi`	`nevvairiel: thanks`
`16:02.26`	`Ominous`	`whats wrong with /use [help/noexists]Blue Skeletal Horse`
`16:02.43`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`I'm hooking one ATSW method. How can I hook the original blizz method that ATSW is hooking over, in case of the ATSW is not running?`
`16:02.44`	`Iceroth`	`help, noexists`
`16:02.50`	`Iceroth`	`comma, not slash`
`16:02.57`	`hypetech`	`durcyn: what's the command to bring up the elkbuffbar config?`
`16:02.59`	`a-stray-cat`	`Ominous: / is only for things like target=name/name`
`16:03.02`	`Ominous`	`oh`
`16:03.24`	`Ominous`	`is there anyother way to do or in macros then?`
`16:03.33`	`a-stray-cat`	`you'll have to do /use [help] Blue Skeletal Warhorse; [noexists] Blue Skeletal Warhorse`
`16:03.46`	`durcyn`	`hypetech: /ebb`
`16:04.18`	`sbu`	`whats help?`
`16:04.21`	`hypetech`	`durcyn: ya, I got that one :) didn't know if there were more options.`
`16:04.29`	`sbu`	`tooltip?`
`16:04.35`	`a-stray-cat`	`friendly target`
`16:04.44`	`sbu`	`ah mh`
`16:04.45`	`a-stray-cat`	`ominous: you can also just use noharm`
`16:04.45`	`durcyn`	`hypetech: the old elkbuffbar is inflexible, you can move it and scale it, but that's about it`
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`16:05.01`	`durcyn`	`hypetech: his new version, elkbuffbarS uses proper ace libs and sharedmedia etc`
`16:05.05`	`hypetech`	`durcyn: is elkbuffbarS semi-stable? lol`
`16:05.21`	`durcyn`	`haven't tried it in 6 months, shrug`
`16:05.24`	`phyber`	`it's fine.`
`16:08.09`	`Morgh`	`EBBs works just fine. No problems yet, and it's <3`
`16:08.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ebbs is solid`
`16:08.30`	`Fisker-`	`it's <\3`
`16:08.31`	`pastamancer`	`files is un-stuck`
`16:08.36`	`Ominous`	`woot`
`16:09.00`	`pastamancer`	`haven't heard back from renchap about the svn mirror though`
`16:09.30`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`I added a DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test") to the IF and to the ELSE. but still none of them show. What should I enable to make it show in chat frame?`
`16:10.11`	`kebinusan`	`hmm looks like bliz lost their forum database or something, there are only a bunch of very very old posts`
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`16:11.14`	`a-stray-cat`	`kebinusan: make sure you're sorting by date`
`16:11.28`	`a-stray-cat`	`er, last post`
`16:11.35`	`kebinusan`	`yeah latest reply`
`16:11.58`	`kebinusan`	`and seeing things like this on the first page: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12053641&sid=1`
`16:12.32`	`a-stray-cat`	`click last post again :X`
`16:13.00`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`so. how can i make the lua print show in game? should I add a new chat frame?`
`16:13.03`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Morning folks.`
`16:13.03`	`kebinusan`	`odd`
`16:13.05`	`hypetech`	`ooo. EBBS is very nice`
`16:13.08`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`enable something disabled by default?`
`16:13.15`	`hypetech`	`any way to not show the rank of the spell though?`
`16:13.37`	`CIA-22`	`03ruinna * r36749 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/ (5 files): FuBar_OutfitterFu: updated toc; added hide minimap button option; added placeholder entries to Korean locale (update me!!), small bug fixes`
`16:13.47`	`ruinna`	`anyone speak Korean?`
`16:14.07`	`shieldb`	`I can play starcraft, does that count?`
`16:14.21`	`ruinna`	`;p`
`16:14.28`	`pastamancer`	`don't worry, next96 will take care of it, or one of the other kokr translators will`
`16:15.11`	`ruinna`	`also had a question about locales-- should i add placeholder locale files for all supported locales?`
`16:15.26`	`ruinna`	`right now i just include files for en and kr`
`16:15.28`	`pastamancer`	`nah`
`16:15.56`	`ruinna`	`but doesn't this mean that ppl in different locales will error out on load of the addon?`
`16:15.57`	`YammYgirlangry`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:16.28`	`ruinna`	`or will en be used as fallback?`
`16:16.52`	`pastamancer`	`it falls back to the default which is usually enUS`
`16:17.04`	`ruinna`	`good :)`
`16:17.26`	`a-stray-cat`	`blah`
`16:17.45`	`a-stray-cat`	`winrar is opening .jar files even after i installed the JRE`
`16:17.47`	`a-stray-cat`	`what do i do :<`
`16:17.58`	`hypetech`	`Morgh: any way to not show spell rank in ebbs?`
`16:18.06`	`pastamancer`	`is anyone else updating SEEA to add duration and timeLeft?`
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`16:18.39`	`shieldb`	`~seen nymbia`
`16:19.11`	`purl`	`nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 10m 11s ago, saying: 'anyway, i'm off for a bit, later guys'.`
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`16:21.25`	`abyssichate`	`this is funny, WAU won't work as long as I don't empty the C:\Documents and Settings\User\Impostazioni locali\Temp\WowAceUpdater directory`
`16:23.05`	`Iceroth`	`nnnngh, something's not right.. my custom groups won't show up in sorren's timers group assignment dropdowns and i didn't see a single enemy buff duration in bg :s`
`16:24.25`	`a-stray-cat`	`o rly`
`16:24.41`	`Kaelten`	`g'morning`
`16:24.56`	`Ominous`	`morning`
`16:24.56`	`YammYgirlangry`	`Kaelten goooood moooorninng!!`
`16:24.58`	`Xuerian`	`'mornin.`
`16:25.09`	`Morgh`	`Good "morning" Kaelten ^^`
`16:26.31`	`Morgh`	`Hrmm... this is odd. The interface stops up for 0.1 secs every 2 seconds or so.`
`16:26.49`	`a-stray-cat`	`do you have profiling enabled?`
`16:27.11`	`Morgh`	`That's what is doing it?`
`16:27.15`	`Cryect`	`yes`
`16:27.18`	`Cryect`	`its a big performance hit`
`16:27.29`	`Cryect`	`though normally not like that`
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`16:27.47`	`Morgh`	`Allright? What do you mean Cryect?`
`16:28.34`	`yacoob`	`Sigh. Anyone knows any decent html to pdf converter?`
`16:28.39`	`Morgh`	`Oh yes. Definately the profiling. Cranked up 15 fps and the slowing stopped =)`
`16:28.48`	`yacoob`	`and by decent I mean 'just what I see in Firefox'`
`16:30.05`	`Cryect`	`Morgh: heh figured be easier for you to see :-p`
`16:30.28`	`durcyn`	`yacoob: if you're on win32, try pdfcreator`
`16:30.28`	`Mikk`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/2.1.0_Global_API_changes_at_release_%28Mikk%29`
`16:30.30`	`Cryect`	`I go from like 50-60 frames to not really playable during combat`
`16:30.38`	`Cryect`	`well I guess its playable but sure stutters`
`16:30.42`	`Mikk`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Global_Function_List <- updated also`
`16:31.54`	`yacoob`	`durcyn, the problem is, there's something quirky about the page, and the "print preview" is very distorted... but I'll give it a try, thanks.`
`16:32.01`	`Mikk`	`And on the topic of reporting spam... yeah... ComplainChat(), ComplainInboxItem()`
`16:32.09`	`yacoob`	`WhineChat()?`
`16:32.14`	`durcyn`	`yacoob: ah, pdfcreator acts as a print driver :/`
`16:32.22`	`[Ammo]`	`print driver ftw`
`16:32.37`	`[Ammo]`	`pdf print driver that is`
`16:32.55`	`ruinna`	`i need a guild for my dev alt on moonrunner-- horde, anyone lend an invite? ^^`
`16:32.57`	`Cryect`	`Mikk, curious you scan the exe or the lua files?`
`16:33.15`	`Mikk`	`I scan the in-game environment for function names, and then compare to strings found in the exe`
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`16:33.28`	`Mikk`	`If something is present in both places, I assume it's an api`
`16:33.31`	`Cryect`	`ah :)`
`16:33.42`	`Cryect`	`Makes sense`
`16:33.55`	`Mikk`	`Lego also updates it. Dunno what he does. But his tool and mine seems to agree =)`
`16:35.15`	`hypetech`	`Here's my UI with the new cast and buff bars :) quartz and elkbuffbars ----- http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/wowscreen3.jpg`
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`16:35.46`	`Kirkburn`	`omgomgomgomg, eww ;)`
`16:35.57`	`Kirkburn`	`In all seriousness, nicely organised`
`16:36.10`	`hypetech`	`ty :)`
`16:36.13`	`nevcairiel`	`the font looks teh weird`
`16:36.16`	`hypetech`	`hehe ya`
`16:36.18`	`hypetech`	`it's a new font`
`16:36.20`	`hypetech`	`I like it :p`
`16:36.32`	`hypetech`	`Enviro in ClearFont2`
`16:36.51`	`Kirkburn`	`FontPack?`
`16:36.52`	`CIA-22`	`03rabbit * r36750 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Toggle showing/hiding helms and backs with alt+click when creating or updating sets. Not thoroughly tested yet.`
`16:37.09`	`hypetech`	`I have all 4...really not sure`
`16:37.31`	`hypetech`	`it's in FontPack 4`
`16:37.36`	`Kirkburn`	`I should mention, I think seerah rolled them all into one`
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`16:38.04`	`Morgh`	`What's the AceComm channel used for, and why is a friend of mine seeing people log in and out of it? =P`
`16:38.13`	`Kirkburn`	`Yes indeed, they're all under ClearFont2_FontPack now`
`16:38.21`	`ruinna`	`hypetech: i think the fontpacks were recently merged into a single package`
`16:38.34`	`hypetech`	`ah, so I can uninstall the individual packs?`
`16:38.42`	`Kirkburn`	`ruinna, ner ner too slow :)`
`16:38.53`	`ruinna`	`lol.. should learn 2 read, hm?`
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`16:39.01`	`Kirkburn`	`hypetech, you could. Wouldn't worry about it too much, though`
`16:40.02`	`hypetech`	`I am noticing the the lag meter in quartz and my lag meter in NetStatsFu don't agree at all`
`16:40.05`	`Mikk`	`Cryect: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Mikk/Scripts#Create_Global_Function_List`
`16:40.14`	`hypetech`	`NetStatsFu says about 50ms, quartz says 250ms`
`16:40.18`	`Kirkburn`	`hypetech, measured at different points most likely`
`16:40.54`	`Kirkburn`	`Though that is a fairly large difference`
`16:40.59`	`hypetech`	`I agree`
`16:41.00`	`Kirkburn`	`Is Quartz always larger?`
`16:41.09`	`hypetech`	`yes`
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`16:41.32`	`donra`	`wow`
`16:41.35`	`donra`	`mt :)`
`16:41.58`	`Kirkburn`	`hypetech, post about it on the Quartz thread, you'll likely get a good answer there`
`16:42.13`	`CIA-22`	`03nevcairiel 072.1 * r36751 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: updating branch to the latest trunk, prepare for some experimental changes`
`16:42.30`	`Ominous`	`ohh i like expirenemts`
`16:43.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Expirenewts? Newts that like to die?`
`16:43.47`	`CIA-22`	`03Octane666 * r36752 10DrWho-1.0/ (. DrWho-1.0.lua):`
`16:43.47`	`CIA-22`	`DrWho-1.0: initial commit`
`16:43.47`	`CIA-22`	`- DrWho-1.0 is an Ace2 library for centralizing and caching the WoW /who lookup resources`
`16:44.07`	`CIA-22`	`03nickenyfiken * r36753 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFu.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Potential bug fix.`
`16:44.22`	`Kirkburn`	`DrWho ... different to WhoLib, how?`
`16:44.32`	`kenlyric`	`different day.`
`16:44.37`	`Mikk`	`And why?`
`16:44.37`	`hypetech`	`looks like I'm getting a constant 30 fps or so with all mods running`
`16:44.46`	`hypetech`	`auctioneer is a damn memory hog :p`
`16:44.48`	`Elkano_`	`Who knows...`
`16:45.00`	`kenlyric`	`auction mods should only be run at the AH.`
`16:45.04`	`Mikk`	`What's the purpose of writing a second library that hooks the same function already being hooked by addons using wholib?`
`16:45.17`	`Fisker-`	`btw is it true that GCD gets reduced by +haste?`
`16:45.23`	`kenlyric`	`Mikk... you mean like metrognome?`
`16:45.37`	`Mikk`	`Eh?`
`16:45.42`	`hypetech`	`kenlyric: I use "/auctioneer load always" so I can see item data while I'm out and about`
`16:45.43`	`kenlyric`	`Fisker-: only if the spell is made shorter than global cooldown.`
`16:46.00`	`kenlyric`	`hypetech: then don't complain about it being a memory hog :)`
`16:46.01`	`durcyn`	`Mikk, this one's named after a TV show.`
`16:46.09`	`Fisker-`	`hmm ok then kenlyric`
`16:46.14`	`Fisker-`	`i was wrooooooong then :(`
`16:46.17`	`kenlyric`	`it's a lot of data to keep in memory.`
`16:46.19`	`Mikk`	`WhoLib modifies the behavior of the SendWho API. Metrognome is a utility library that listens to OnUpdates`
`16:46.26`	`Mikk`	`I don't see how they're related`
`16:46.34`	`Fisker-`	`thought the BM trinket was useless because it made the spell faster than GCD`
`16:46.50`	`durcyn`	`(and I think he was talking about aceevent vs metro)`
`16:47.06`	`hypetech`	`kenlyric hehe`
`16:47.19`	`kenlyric`	`I knew that from my MC days... the three piece priest bonus made flash heal 1.4 seconds.`
`16:47.19`	`Fisker-`	`hmm`
`16:47.22`	`CIA-22`	`03sorren * r36754 10SorrenTimers/options.lua:`
`16:47.22`	`CIA-22`	`SorrenTimers:`
`16:47.22`	`CIA-22`	`- the group dropdown for skill options should now properly update when you create a new group.`
`16:47.24`	`Fisker-`	`anyone know what the "Golden Pig" is?`
`16:47.26`	`kenlyric`	`and our GCD for flash heal aalso 1.4 seconds.`
`16:48.00`	`kenlyric`	`that's why imp corruption kinda sucks.. it should reduce the GCD on that spell too :)`
`16:48.08`	Cyrez`	`I think Sanity2 isn't scanning the mailbox properly, like, at all. ><`
`16:48.13`	`hypetech`	`lol`
`16:48.34`	`CIA-22`	`03ominous * r36755 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/Druid.lua Core.lua): ClassTimer- fix pounce for druids`
`16:48.56`	`CIA-22`	`03nevcairiel 072.1 * r36756 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: new state handling, better dont try this :D`
`16:48.57`	`durcyn`	`Fisker-: as in chinese years?`
`16:48.58`	`Kirkburn`	`Fisker-, http://haacked.com/archive/2007/01/03/Year_of_the_Golden_Pig.aspx`
`16:54.02`	`hypetech`	`well at least I can alt+tab to my heart's content today`
`16:54.06`	`Antiarc\|Work`	Cyrez`: Entirely possible. I was playing around in that functionality last night.
`16:54.15`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I have a number of bugs to investigate`
`16:54.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`The good news is that Sanity's memory usage and CPU usage are a small fraction of what they were before :D`
`16:55.01`	`Morgh`	`What was the command to get the name of the frame I am hovering over?`
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`16:55.42`	`Morgh`	`Ah, got it =)`
`16:55.42`	`Fisker-`	`so what relevance does it have to WoW? :o`
`16:55.42`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:55.45`	`Fisker-`	`i want a golden pig :o`
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`16:57.16`	`Morgh`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:57.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yeah`
`16:57.49`	`Morgh`	`The new Timers, I can't do a GetName on them. How do I edit them?`
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`16:59.00`	Funkeh`	`hey`
`16:59.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Fisker-, what relevance does the Chinese New Year have to WoW? We still celebrate it ...`
`17:00.34`	`Elkano_`	`we do?`
`17:00.34`	`kenlyric`	`the lunar festival is based around the chinese new year, isn't it?`
`17:00.34`	`Kirkburn`	`^`
`17:00.34`	`Kaydeethree`	`yes`
`17:03.46`	`CIA-22`	`03shieldb * r36757 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc):`
`17:03.46`	`CIA-22`	`Incubator:bumping pre-curator trash to an hour respawn based on 2.1 patchnotes`
`17:03.46`	`CIA-22`	`- Setting homonculus to two kills to avoid starting an extra timer when a warlock releases one from enslave`
`17:03.56`	`*** join/#wowace Toufas (n=ll@82.18.60.215)`
`17:03.57`	`Fisker-`	`Kirkburn there's some golden pig turn in thingy in shattrath`
`17:04.01`	`Fisker-`	`but i lol'd`
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`17:04.18`	`*** join/#wowace NeoTron (n=neotron@c-67-168-102-36.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`17:04.19`	`Fisker-`	`some guild tried kazzak`
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`17:04.33`	`Fisker-`	`they engaged him and there was like 6 yells from him with people dying :D`
`17:04.35`	`NeoTron`	`woot. Mag down last night`
`17:05.01`	`shieldb`	`NeoTron, did people get saved?`
`17:05.30`	`NeoTron`	`shieldb: hmm good question`
`17:05.31`	`shieldb`	`we did him on tuesday and no one got saved to the instance, so we did him again last night and it only saved 50% of the raid`
`17:05.34`	`NeoTron`	`will have to check tonight`
`17:08.25`	`CIA-22`	`03sorren * r36758 10SorrenTimers/ (SorrenTimers.lua abilities-druid.lua):`
`17:08.25`	`CIA-22`	`SorrenTimers:`
`17:08.25`	`CIA-22`	`- Fixed enemy skill detection`
`17:08.25`	`CIA-22`	`- Fixed druid pounce`
`17:08.25`	`CIA-22`	`- Fixed some nil errors when converting from old options`
`17:09.02`	`YammYgirlangry`	`guys. I want to change the original GetTradeSkillInfo() returns. Is that hard to hook it?`
`17:09.04`	`Necrathex`	`enemy skill detection :o`
`17:09.28`	`Necrathex`	`"this is a very skilled enemy, look out!"`
`17:09.28`	`a-stray-cat`	`clearly i added ffxi style conning`
`17:09.34`	`a-stray-cat`	`"That enemy is very tough."`
`17:09.44`	`Necrathex`	`^^`
`17:10.02`	`YammYgirlangry`	`"skilled overpowered enemy on sight. run!"`
`17:10.22`	`NeoTron`	`I got the head so now I have another nice spellhit ring (exalted CE is the other one)`
`17:10.32`	`NeoTron`	`getting real close to maxing my spell hit - just need some gems`
`17:11.21`	`Elkano_`	`YammYgirlangry, depends on wether that function is considered secure`
`17:11.30`	`YammYgirlangry`	`secure?`
`17:11.43`	`YammYgirlangry`	`i know It can be hooked, cause ATSW does.`
`17:11.49`	`CIA-22`	`03sorren * r36759 10SorrenTimers/enemy-buffs.lua:`
`17:11.49`	`CIA-22`	`SorrenTimers:`
`17:11.50`	`CIA-22`	`- Added Sprint and Cloak of Skill to enemy skill detection`
`17:11.56`	`kenlyric`	`antagonist, quartz, chronometer, witch hunt... surely some of these mods are overlapping.`
`17:12.04`	`kenlyric`	`lol`
`17:12.16`	`YammYgirlangry`	`I need to add some text next to recipes names. But I have no idea how to hook the original function and actually make it print it`
`17:12.51`	`CIA-22`	`03mok * r36760 10xchar/ (locales/locale-deDE.lua locales/locale-enUS.lua xchar.lua): xchar: added bosspoints`
`17:13.07`	`YammYgirlangry`	`i mean. I need to intercept the original tradeskill window, just before it start printing, so I can hook the GetTradeSkillInfo method.`
`17:13.10`	`YammYgirlangry`	`but how?`
`17:13.37`	`*** join/#wowace Rewad (n=Miranda@84-72-53-32.dclient.hispeed.ch)`
`17:13.46`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`pffff`
`17:13.47`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`(19:11:29) (CIA-22) - Added Sprint and Cloak of Skill`
`17:13.52`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`i feel offended !`
`17:14.00`	`Iceroth`	`:D`
`17:14.07`	`Elkano_`	`since GetTradeSkillInfo is base API iirc, why not simply use AceHook in your addon's OnEnable?`
`17:14.11`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`does it have lolcoil detection?`
`17:14.22`	`YammYgirlangry`	`aceHook?`
`17:14.42`	`YammYgirlangry`	`err. what it does?`
`17:15.00`	`Elkano_`	`helps you with hooking functions`
`17:15.03`	`Fisker-`	`bah`
`17:15.05`	`Xuerian`	`Intercept == hook`
`17:15.06`	`Fisker-`	`the new shaman colour is worse`
`17:15.14`	`ckknight`	`you're worse`
`17:15.16`	`Tornhoof`	`yeh`
`17:15.25`	`Rewad`	`what is better, ag_UnitFrames or Pitbull? is there a reasen why i have to change from ag_UnitFrames to Pitbull?`
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`17:15.45`	`Mikk`	`YammYgirlangry: I'm not sure hookiing the API is the right thing to do`
`17:15.50`	`YammYgirlangry`	`I know I can hook the GetTradeSkillInfo(). but how to make it be called by original tradeskill ?`
`17:15.52`	`Mikk`	`Where exactly is it you want the text to be added?`
`17:15.55`	`Elkano_`	`on of them can cause Aids... we're not sure which one though...`
`17:16.08`	`ckknight`	`Rewad: check the forums. This question has been asked far too often`
`17:16.11`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Rewad hmm reason one would be the rumor that ag will stop development of ag_uf once pitbull does what he needs ;)`
`17:16.15`	`Fisker-`	`indeed ckknight`
`17:16.21`	`NeoTron`	`Pitbull is angry. Angry is good. Go with the dog.`
`17:16.23`	`NeoTron`	`or something`
`17:16.26`	`Elkano_`	`YammYgirlangry, check AceHook's wiki entry`
`17:16.31`	`vhaarr`	~seen ag`
`17:16.59`	`purl`	ag` <n=ag`@0x535f749b.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 20h 34m 35s ago, saying: 'XCOM oh snap'.
`17:16.59`	`YammYgirlangry`	`i need to add the recipe level before the recipe name. I have a method to do so. Now I need the original one to call it`
`17:16.59`	`Rewad`	`^^ ok thanks`
`17:17.00`	`a-stray-cat`	`ckknight lives ;O`
`17:17.12`	`Xuerian`	`Haha. Both rare beasts in Mulgore within 20ft of eachother`
`17:17.27`	`a-stray-cat`	`i have some issues with pitbull, if you'd be so kind as to hear them out, ckknight`
`17:17.55`	`ckknight`	`nope`
`17:17.58`	`ckknight`	`gotta go to work soon`
`17:18.01`	`Elkano_`	`the aura thing?`
`17:18.03`	`ckknight`	`write them down somewhere`
`17:18.07`	`a-stray-cat`	`pew`
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`17:18.38`	`Fisker-`	`GridAlert = <3 btw`
`17:20.45`	`NeoTron`	`so does anyone know where you pick up the green spell hit gem designs (i.e great/veiled gems)`
`17:21.15`	`*** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@shandalar.xs4all.nl)`
`17:21.28`	`Elkano_`	`wowhead maybe?`
`17:22.07`	`NeoTron`	`not when I checked last night :-(`
`17:22.48`	`Fisker-`	`it's the dawn of a new night?!`
`17:22.49`	`Elkano_`	`so they are new with 2.1?`
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`17:23.18`	`NeoTron`	`yeah`
`17:23.28`	`NeoTron`	`Veiled Flame Spessarite and Great Golden Draenite I think`
`17:24.27`	`NeoTron`	`the bleu gems are, of course, BoE recipies`
`17:24.36`	`durcyn`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Gems/`
`17:24.36`	`NeoTron`	`because why would JC get any blue plans from rep vendors...`
`17:25.25`	`NeoTron`	`durcyn: no info where to get them`
`17:26.06`	`durcyn`	`yes, but once you know what they are, thottbot is two inches away :o`
`17:26.09`	`Elkano_`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31878 ?`
`17:26.15`	`NeoTron`	`durcyn: I know what they are`
`17:26.25`	`NeoTron`	`there aer no drop information / plan info`
`17:26.25`	`durcyn`	`oh.`
`17:26.31`	`NeoTron`	`on wowhead, thottbot or allakhazam`
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`17:26.47`	`Elkano_`	`wait, that's not green`
`17:27.03`	`NeoTron`	`Veiled Flame Spessarite and Great Golden Draenite`
`17:27.37`	`NeoTron`	`http://thottbot.com/s39468`
`17:27.49`	`NeoTron`	`no source information`
`17:27.54`	`*** join/#wowace Antiarc\|Work (n=cheald@208.187.119.42)`
`17:27.55`	`NeoTron`	`since it's a spell I wonder if it's a trainer item`
`17:28.02`	`NeoTron`	`but I checked one trainer and he didn't have it`
`17:28.15`	`CIA-22`	`03Octane666 * r36761 10DrWho-1.0/DrWho-1.0.lua:`
`17:28.15`	`CIA-22`	`DrWho-1.0:`
`17:28.15`	`CIA-22`	`- Removed file. Think I messed up and I should have structured this differently inside of the SVN trunk.`
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`17:30.26`	`Kaelten`	`well guys you're going to kill me`
`17:30.32`	`Kaelten`	`5.6million downloads on tuesday`
`17:30.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`O_O`
`17:30.46`	`kenlyric`	`i'm sorry!`
`17:30.50`	`kenlyric`	`I tried to download more!`
`17:30.52`	`kenlyric`	`don't hit me!`
`17:31.05`	`Megalon`	`i woke up on the F5 key today! :(`
`17:31.09`	`art3mis`	`mwahahah my leech autioit script worked perfect!`
`17:31.18`	`Elkano_`	`Kaelten, would have been even more if I had updated mine already`
`17:31.24`	`art3mis`	`tag all the addons leech delte them releech wash rinse repeat`
`17:31.36`	`Kaelten`	`I havn't gotten my email from yesterday yet`
`17:31.36`	`Kaelten`	`:s`
`17:31.40`	`Kaelten`	`5.6million downloads, and 420k pageviews`
`17:31.50`	`Xuerian`	`Geez 0.o`
`17:31.53`	`kenlyric`	`murdered by wau.`
`17:32.00`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
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`17:32.41`	`Matrix110`	`local color = "\|cff00bfff" if i change it do "\|eeeeee" its white or?`
`17:32.42`	`Wogroipl_`	`~seen Nymbia`
`17:33.10`	`purl`	`nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 24m 10s ago, saying: 'anyway, i'm off for a bit, later guys'.`
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`17:33.11`	`durcyn`	`hrm. is Geist the only suitable replacement for Sprocket yet?`
`17:33.11`	`Kaelten`	`\|cfffffffff is white`
`17:33.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Ok, this is irritating.`
`17:33.19`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I upgraded Tortiose, rebooted, and my shell menus completely disappeared.`
`17:33.24`	`CIA-22`	`03sorren * r36762 10SorrenTimers/abilities-shaman.lua:`
`17:33.24`	`CIA-22`	`SorrenTimers:`
`17:33.24`	`CIA-22`	`- Fixed magma totem duration`
`17:33.30`	`Xuerian`	`Matrix110: \|c{2digit alpha}{2digit red/greenblue each} so full alpha, r, g, b = white`
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`17:34.02`	`Kaelten`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:34.07`	`Kaelten`	`er of some shade`
`17:34.31`	`_NiC`	`I'm using bongos currently, is there any ace-addons that can take over my actionbuttons, and placement of the roll, pet, class, menu, bag and key-frame?`
`17:34.49`	`durcyn`	`bartender3, but there's no reason not to use bongos.`
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`17:35.04`	`Elkano_`	`durcyn, I don't think it will take over the settings`
`17:35.17`	`_NiC`	`I except to have to set it up again. :)`
`17:35.17`	`kenlyric`	`so, you never went on to say what you were sorry about, Kaelten :)`
`17:35.30`	`durcyn`	`Elkano_: he said placement :/`
`17:35.30`	`Kaelten`	`I'm sorry?`
`17:35.33`	`Kaelten`	`about what?`
`17:35.41`	`durcyn`	`hrm, don't think bt3 touches rollbar though`
`17:35.56`	`kenlyric`	`oh, I maybe misread when you said we were going to kill you for something.`
`17:36.04`	`Elkano_`	`durcyn, well the placement is part of the settings :P and placement isn't taken over too`
`17:36.08`	`Xuerian`	`XLootGroup does new item rolls, so does enhanced lootframes, I think?`
`17:36.14`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I use XLootGroup for item rolls`
`17:36.16`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`And it's awesome`
`17:36.23`	`durcyn`	`Elkano_: mea culpa, you win`
`17:36.26`	`art3mis`	`antiarc eats bugs!`
`17:36.32`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Rawr.`
`17:36.40`	`NeoTron`	`new item rolls?`
`17:36.46`	`art3mis`	`how's sanity bags coming along?`
`17:36.51`	`Elkano_`	`durcyn, you're welcome ;)`
`17:36.55`	`art3mis`	`or did you just stop that project all together?`
`17:36.55`	`Xuerian`	`"Displays item rolls differently/movable"`
`17:37.00`	`NeoTron`	`ah`
`17:37.03`	`NeoTron`	`yeah`
`17:37.04`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Been working on bringing Sanity/Item Cache up to date`
`17:37.05`	`*** join/#wowace Velkyn (n=sm@c-68-58-69-83.hsd1.in.comcast.net)`
`17:37.05`	`Wogroipl_`	`is Manufac broken?`
`17:37.09`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Bags is out there and in stable beta`
`17:37.10`	`art3mis`	`xloot rolls is nice`
`17:37.18`	`winkiller`	`hm, oneview doesn't show bank contents anymore. anyone had that lately?`
`17:37.27`	`art3mis`	`except that i put it where i dont normally look on the screen and miss lots of loot ;P`
`17:37.46`	`durcyn`	`Wogroipl_: should be mostly working, save possibly for the new crafting itemlink format`
`17:37.47`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I've been working on getting memory and CPU usage down`
`17:37.49`	`Velkyn`	`MY oneview is showing fin.`
`17:37.53`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Sanity et al are pretty damn slim now.`
`17:37.54`	`art3mis`	`ahh`
`17:37.56`	`Velkyn`	`Winkiller: My oneview is working.`
`17:37.59`	`Wogroipl_`	`If I try to link an enchant using Manufac, I get disconnected`
`17:38.07`	`winkiller`	`hmpf. ok`
`17:38.08`	`_NiC`	`hm, seems bongos isn't maintained anymore, but bongos2 is`
`17:38.11`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`hmm.. I just updated and something messed up.. getting an error even with default`
`17:38.18`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`[2007/05/24 10:35:12-1-x79]: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:872: bad argument #1 to 'strmatch' (string expected, got nil):`
`17:38.19`	`Wogroipl_`	`so I just shouldn't use that ? :P`
`17:38.28`	`art3mis`	`bongos == ace bongos2 == ace2`
`17:38.30`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`any ideas?`
`17:38.32`	`durcyn`	`_NiC: tuller just did a total rewrite for 2.1, it's all nice and dongle-ized even.`
`17:38.34`	`Fisker-`	`did they change the respawnn timer for channelers in 2.1?`
`17:38.35`	`Xuerian`	`art3mis: No...`
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`17:38.41`	`Xuerian`	`art3mis: Bongos isn't ace, nor is bongos2`
`17:38.42`	`art3mis`	`Xuerian: shhhhhhhhhh`
`17:38.47`	`Xuerian`	`>_>`
`17:38.57`	`CIA-22`	`03Octane666 * r36763 10DrWhoLib/ (5 files in 2 dirs):`
`17:38.57`	`CIA-22`	`DrWhoLib: Inital commit`
`17:38.58`	`CIA-22`	`- Library for centralizing and caching the WoW /who lookup resources`
`17:39.06`	`durcyn`	`Fisker-: should still be 60m, the only respawn changes listed were hydross trash`
`17:39.07`	`_NiC`	`durcyn: mhm. the version I have (7.1.15) doesn't work very well with stances after 2.1`
`17:39.10`	`art3mis`	`im trying to make everyone just assume that the 2 on the end means ace2 regardless of whether it does or not ;P`
`17:39.13`	`_NiC`	`gonna try bongos2`
`17:39.17`	`NeoTron`	`Fisker-: trash in mag's lair is on a 2hr respanw timer now`
`17:39.24`	`durcyn`	`_NiC: right. bongos2 is the new bongos. same author`
`17:39.51`	`Fisker-`	`alright`
`17:40.03`	`NeoTron`	`I can confirm that for sure since they didn't respawn and we were there for about 1h40m`
`17:40.11`	`CIA-22`	`03antiarc * r36764 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua): Sanity2: Drycode fix to allow bag filtering to work again. Please to test if you see this and report any errors to me in #wowace.`
`17:40.25`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`interface/framexml doesn't even exist.. confused`
`17:41.01`	`NeoTron`	`anyone noticed how flasks barely aer cheaper despite 1/3rd the ingredients?`
`17:41.06`	`Wogroipl_`	`I also get an error on startup from Quartz, something about the module "TradeSkill" already being registered`
`17:41.17`	`kenlyric`	`NeoTron: that's just the market. They will drop when they start flooding.`
`17:41.24`	`NeoTron`	`and have your AH prices just gone crazy completey? on my server it's so strangely out of the norm I'm wondering what's up`
`17:41.45`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`Errors are ok, errors that stay up even with all my mods disabled are not ok`
`17:41.57`	`kenlyric`	`the biggest thing that will drop prices is more people learning the recipe through discovery.`
`17:42.03`	`NeoTron`	`black lotus for 20-30g, stack of 20 dreamfoil 35g+, primal life (normall 7-10) at 16-25g etc`
`17:42.04`	`Fisker-`	`hoho`
`17:42.11`	`Fisker-`	`new soulwell sound = "U GIEV SOJ"`
`17:42.30`	`a-stray-cat`	`anyone have a good spot to farm motes of air?`
`17:42.33`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`New soulwell sound + 5 people spam-clicking = hilarity`
`17:42.48`	`NeoTron`	`jingle bells jingle bells...`
`17:42.53`	`deltron`	`lol`
`17:42.59`	`Fisker-`	`reminds me of the Diablo 2 sound when picking up rings`
`17:43.06`	`deltron`	`Fisker-: nobody gets that joke when I say it :(`
`17:43.16`	`NeoTron`	`the sound is nice.... but I wish it only happened when people actually got a stone`
`17:43.31`	`Morgh`	`Has anyone registered any positive changes to Skinning in 2.1?`
`17:43.35`	`Fisker-`	`QQ deltron :(`
`17:44.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`a-stray-cat, fish water and mute to air imo ;)`
`17:44.06`	`_NiC`	`morgh: I get more scraps.`
`17:44.17`	`*** join/#wowace dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk)`
`17:44.20`	`a-stray-cat`	`well, since i dont have alchemy`
`17:44.27`	`a-stray-cat`	`i suppose i can fish water and mute to air via the AH ;/`
`17:44.29`	`NeoTron`	`started my netherwing faction grind`
`17:44.34`	`KarlThePagan`	`plateau :/`
`17:44.44`	`Morgh`	`_NiC: That's it?`
`17:44.49`	`NeoTron`	`took quite a while to do the daily quests - probably have to grind more during non-raid nights or I'll have to be up till 2-3am every night :P`
`17:44.54`	`a-stray-cat`	`i went with full intentions to start a war with the alliance should they be there :<`
`17:45.03`	`KarlThePagan`	`lol fail`
`17:45.07`	`a-stray-cat`	`unfortunately, all i found was like 8 horde in that little area`
`17:45.22`	`KarlThePagan`	`wow, my server it's all alliance`
`17:45.30`	`_NiC`	`morgh: I've just skinned a few mobs`
`17:45.42`	`Fisker-`	`how do i make a timer for bigwigs?`
`17:45.43`	`NeoTron`	`I will always remember.. the time I spent 40 minutes farming fire there ALL ALONE`
`17:45.49`	`NeoTron`	`chani killing for 40 minutes. 5 primals`
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`17:46.03`	`Velkyn`	`Anyone have a suggestion for in in-game guild-bank mod? (something that allows all guildies to view the "guild bank" )?`
`17:46.05`	`Fisker-`	`Tuller!`
`17:46.16`	`_NiC`	`velkyn: duckiebank is what we use`
`17:46.19`	`Tuller`	`Fisker-: hrm?`
`17:46.21`	`deltron`	`duckiebankis very nice`
`17:46.23`	`NeoTron`	`Guild Banker is one`
`17:46.30`	`deltron`	`but duckiebank is a pain`
`17:46.33`	`Velkyn`	`Anything Ace?`
`17:46.33`	`Fisker-`	`you are a cool guy`
`17:46.35`	`Fisker-`	`that's all`
`17:46.36`	`deltron`	`since you have to set up new guild ranks`
`17:46.36`	`CIA-22`	`03antiarc * r36765 10Sanity2/Sanity2.toc: Sanity2: As much as I might want this version to work with WoW v 21.0, the correct TOC number is awesome.`
`17:46.41`	`Tuller`	`someone figure out how to get stances to screw up reliably :P`
`17:46.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`o/`
`17:47.10`	`durcyn`	`Tuller: since you're here, erhm, what's a perosn have to do to get the bongos2 minimap button to stay hidden? :/`
`17:47.14`	`Morgh`	`_NiC: So no real improvement at all.`
`17:47.14`	`durcyn`	`person even`
`17:47.17`	`Gnarfoz`	`anyone tried Tattle_LFM?`
`17:47.40`	`Tuller`	`durcyn: try /run Bongos.profile.showMinimap = false; ReloadUI() :)`
`17:47.49`	`Tuller`	`durcyn: its fixed in mine`
`17:47.51`	`_NiC`	`morgh: depends what you mean I guess. Getting more leather from each skin is an improvement. what else could it be? :)`
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`17:48.04`	`durcyn`	`ah, ok. the menu tick box doesn't seem to change much, i'll try that.`
`17:48.23`	`Velkyn`	`NeoTron: Where can I find "Guild Banker"?`
`17:49.02`	`CIA-22`	`03antiarc * r36766 10SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.toc: SanityItemCache: Right TOC number = still awesome.`
`17:50.03`	`CIA-22`	`03ominous * r36767 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: fix for BS errors`
`17:50.14`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Has anyone done a CPU/RAM usage comparison between Bongos and BT3?`
`17:51.59`	`Josh_Borke`	`whoa boy, gonna be fun now going through optimizations of all addons`
`17:52.21`	`Morgh`	`_NiC: The problem is, compared to mining and herbalism, skinning isn't fun.`
`17:52.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I've enjoyed plugging through my stuff so far.`
`17:52.33`	`Fisker-`	`is bongos2 some new stuff btw?`
`17:52.43`	`Morgh`	`And when the results are subpar to such an extent, it turns even less fun`
`17:53.02`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I was able to track down some extraneous table creation in the Sanity suite and reduced its memory usage to a fraction of what it was before.`
`17:53.12`	`Fisker-`	`weee`
`17:53.15`	`Fisker-`	`i might use it again :P`
`17:53.18`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Well, that and I added bag updates via schedule, rather than straight event hooking.`
`17:53.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So it uses a lot less CPU now too`
`17:53.23`	`NeoTron`	`so according to a wow forum thread, no one has any clue where, if anywhere, the new green quality JC cuts are`
`17:53.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc\|Work: what tools did you use for that?`
`17:53.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Protractor, primarily.`
`17:53.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`neat`
`17:53.38`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Function profiling`
`17:54.05`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Sanity's running about 200kb of RAM usage for me right now.`
`17:54.07`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Which is pretty hot.`
`17:54.31`	`renchap`	`svn.wowace.com is now synced`
`17:54.40`	`renchap`	`sorry for the little desync`
`17:54.59`	`NeoTron`	`I think it's safe to say blizzard forgot to add them`
`17:55.03`	`Silviu-`	`~cheer renchap`
`17:55.23`	`purl`	`Three cheers for renchap! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray!`
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`17:57.04`	`Fisker-`	`purl, you suck`
`17:57.10`	`purl`	`and very well I might add`
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`17:58.02`	`Fisker-`	`lolwut`
`17:58.25`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`Very strange, the FrameXML error was being caused by a castsequence macro.. confirmed bug fixed in next patch I guess`
`17:58.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`Angry_Dwarf: yes, parsing for those is broken, needs a trailing ; to not error for now`
`17:59.03`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`but the gnome stopped yelling "fatality!" at me, all is well`
`17:59.12`	`Fisker-`	`blizzard how i hate thee`
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`17:59.23`	`Elkano_`	`gnome? wasn't that a worm?`
`17:59.26`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`yeah it was a macro I had for an alt so I just deleted it, no need`
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`17:59.47`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`Oh, I dunno, I just assumed it was a gnome. But I think you're right, it's from Worms Armageddon.`
`18:00.03`	`Stylpe`	`ckknight: there?`
`18:00.12`	`Stylpe`	`I'm back to bother you again! :D`
`18:00.13`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's a sound effect from worms 2, IIRC`
`18:00.15`	`Wixi`	`anyone here able to help me out with Libs, LoD and other questions?`
`18:00.56`	`vhaarr`	`just ask`
`18:01.26`	`phyber`	`~seen bam__`
`18:01.47`	`purl`	`bam__ <n=pervel@0x573c050d.boanqu2.broadband.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 22m 14s ago, saying: 'yea was fun to see several flares on the ground :P'.`
`18:01.56`	`Wixi`	`I remember yesterday people where talking bout libs being in the /addon folder not /addon/randommod/ folder, whats the difference?`
`18:02.33`	`Stylpe`	`Wixi: Means the libs are loading like regular addons`
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`18:02.46`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`Damn, I deleted my Prat savedvars trying to fix that too.`
`18:02.49`	`Stylpe`	`instead of being embedded`
`18:02.50`	`kebinusan`	`Wixi, faster load times, and if you checkout from the SVN it means faster updates since you dont grab a ton of externals every time`
`18:03.20`	`Wixi`	`sorry which offers best performance, and load times, being in the addon/ folder or addon/randommod/?`
`18:03.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`addon/`
`18:03.34`	`Wixi`	`ok`
`18:03.44`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Basically, checkout without externals, and then install libs as needed`
`18:03.50`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Harder to maintain though`
`18:04.02`	`kebinusan`	`its not really a performance increase other than the first time they load`
`18:04.05`	`Wixi`	`is it safe to simply copy my libs out of the folders they are in into the addons/ folder?`
`18:04.14`	`stavmar`	`I have a question about Tattle: the information comes out in the tooltip when you hover over another player but is there a reason why even though it is enabled it still wont show the talent spec data?`
`18:04.23`	`Wixi`	`yeh my load times are pretty horrendous at the moment`
`18:04.36`	`kebinusan`	`stavmar: it only grabs the top 300 arena teams from each realm`
`18:04.42`	`kebinusan`	`err each battlegroup`
`18:05.00`	`kebinusan`	`so if they suck really bad or there are alot of teams, no data`
`18:05.07`	`stavmar`	`so it is intended only for Arena, not to see any non arena players specs?`
`18:05.29`	`kebinusan`	`stavmar: yeah mostly, updating every player from every realm would take forever`
`18:05.38`	`kebinusan`	`it already takes 6 hours just to update all the US battlegroup data`
`18:05.54`	`Stylpe`	`Is anyone here 1. using Cartographer, 2. running WoW atm, and 3. willing to test something for me?`
`18:06.05`	`stavmar`	`kebinusan: that is too bad, it would be so nice to have that information when asking your guildmates about there spec`
`18:06.09`	`deltron`	`i'm not home atm :P`
`18:06.22`	`Wixi`	`Stylpe: give me 10-15 mins and i can`
`18:06.43`	`Stylpe`	`Wixi: Don't have 10-15 mins, having dinner now =P`
`18:06.55`	`Wixi`	`Stylpe: :( sorry!`
`18:07.02`	`kebinusan`	`stavmar: if your guildmates are anything like mine they'd be a different spec every day`
`18:07.05`	`Stylpe`	`Oh, np, don't sweat`
`18:07.55`	`stavmar`	`kebinusan: that is why i want to know.`
`18:08.00`	`durcyn`	`shieldb: poke`
`18:08.11`	`CIA-22`	`03xuerian * r36768 10XLoot/XLootRowTools.lua: XLoot: Group/Monitor: Tooltips show up on pressing shift if already hovering the item`
`18:08.47`	`stavmar`	`Xuerian: is there a way to move the tooltip from the cursor when hovering over the looted item in teh monitor?`
`18:09.12`	`phyber`	`nice. no more Stand module for Automaton :(`
`18:09.24`	`Xuerian`	`stavmar: Buh?`
`18:09.39`	`stavmar`	`Xuerian: Blah?`
`18:09.44`	`Xuerian`	`stavmar: Explain?`
`18:10.03`	`Ironhand`	`I updated my Prat yesterday and am finding that when I click someone's name in chat, rather than whisper "Name" it whispers "Name:somenumber" with somenumber usually being a number around 250... anyone else experiencing this?`
`18:10.14`	`Fisker-`	`what lol`
`18:10.23`	`Fisker-`	`MSBT just showed i healed for +-4xx`
`18:10.24`	`shieldb`	`durcyn, what's up?`
`18:10.43`	`Kaydeethree`	`the name:somenumber thing means you need to update your chat mod`
`18:10.51`	`stavmar`	`Xuerian: so when the monitor show mote of fire that i looted i hover it so i can see how much of the motes i have on all my other toons using sanity or charInfo. The tooltip actually covers teh monitor because my loot monitor is at the top of the screen`
`18:10.57`	`durcyn`	`shieldb: re: incubator, rumor has it magtheridon channellers are 2 hours now`
`18:11.14`	`durcyn`	`er, warders`
`18:11.20`	`Ironhand`	`Kaydeethree: my "chat mod"? I updated all of Prat last night`
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`18:12.18`	`Ironhand`	`or could another addon be interfering?`
`18:12.19`	`shieldb`	`yeah I've heard that as well, but I haven't seen anything confirming it either way yet`
`18:12.40`	`Xuerian`	`stavmar: I guess i could add a tooltip position option later.... If you're using tinytip it won't stay where I tell it though, currently it's positioned along the top edge of whatever you're hovering`
`18:13.06`	`shieldb`	`I'd rather leave it at one hour for now and have people tell me that the timer was too short then have it get bumped to 2h and have that screw people over on attempts though ;)`
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`18:13.24`	`Stylpe`	`Wixi: I'm having dinner in my room, so you can help me after all if you want =)`
`18:13.50`	`stavmar`	`Xuerian: exactly what is happening, I am using tinytip but it does not seem to follow where I ask the anchor to be, I guess I will keep trying with TT`
`18:13.52`	`Wixi`	`Stylpe: Sure, just trying to sort out my libs`
`18:14.08`	`Stylpe`	`Feel free to ask me for help too =)`
`18:14.34`	`shieldb`	`durcyn, I've also heard that trash in gruul's lair got a similar bump to 2h, but no confirmation either way there as well`
`18:14.42`	`NeoTron`	`Ah got the "lack of green JC gem cuts" email forwarded to the appropriate place in blizzard`
`18:14.47`	`NeoTron`	`nice to have an insider contact :)`
`18:14.58`	`Kaydeethree`	`gruul's was 1h for us last night`
`18:15.14`	`NeoTron`	`durcyn: channelers aer not trash.. :P but yes, the mag trash is 2 hrs`
`18:15.35`	`NeoTron`	`I know for sure it'snot 1 hr`
`18:15.45`	`shieldb`	`good enough for me`
`18:16.05`	`NeoTron`	`I had >1h left on my flask when we started the trash. when he deid I had about 1hr left on my second flask`
`18:16.09`	`NeoTron`	`and no trash`
`18:16.27`	`NeoTron`	`and I also know gruul trash does respawn as usual`
`18:16.31`	`NeoTron`	`since we hit the respawn`
`18:17.03`	`CIA-22`	`03shieldb * r36769 10Incubator/Core.lua: Incubator: Magtheridon trash was changed to 2h in 2.1`
`18:17.55`	`NeoTron`	`which remidns me I need to get incubator now when I have a working wowce`
`18:17.55`	`CIA-22`	`03antiarc * r36770 10SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.lua: SanityItemCache: Know what else is awesome? Your tokenizer being able to handle strings of more than 2 tokens. :V`
`18:21.05`	`sylvanaar`	`Ironhand post your version when reporting an error`
`18:21.51`	`Tupsi`	`[2007/05/24 20:19:24-929-x21]: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1258: bad argument #1 to 'strmatch' (string expected, got nil):`
`18:21.52`	`Tupsi`	`Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1258: in function thats blizz std isnt it?`
`18:21.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`kebinusan: on that tattle question (or rather your answer to it) - I'm using a full rip of my server locally ^^ (set limit to 10k, it fetched about 5k, 5k and 2.3k teams o_O)`
`18:22.25`	`kebinusan`	`Gnarfoz: ouch`
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`18:27.27`	`ashai\|hc`	`Ive not logged into 2.1 yet, is equipcompare depricated now?`
`18:27.31`	`Stylpe`	`Wixi: Too late =P Have to go.`
`18:27.55`	`Saroz`	`LOL`
`18:27.56`	`mexicaan`	`Hi, i've got problem. I want to monitor combat events when player is in combat, using a combatFlag (with PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED/ENABLED). However when a player starts combat with a combat event, the combat event is triggered, but the combatFlag isnt true yet. So the very first combat event is parsed. How can i fix this ?`
`18:27.56`	`Saroz`	`To summarise for you, as you seem to need it, the overhead caused by the profiler itself causes a significant increase in the CPU usage of KTM in particular due to its architecture.`
`18:28.08`	`Saroz`	`no shit`
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`18:28.17`	`mexicaan`	`isnt*`
`18:28.18`	`Josh_Borke`	`mexicaan: check for InCombatLockdown()`
`18:28.40`	`Josh_Borke`	`mexicaan: PRD is a region where you can still move secure things. it's not until AFTER PRD fires that it is secure`
`18:28.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Saroz: Is that a quote from somewhere?`
`18:28.49`	`Saroz`	`http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/raid/klhthreatmeter/`
`18:28.50`	`CIA-22`	`03ominous * r36771 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: growup is more purdey now`
`18:29.04`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Are they trying to argue that KTM doesn't use a lot of CPU?`
`18:29.13`	`Saroz`	`yea`
`18:29.15`	`Saroz`	`or`
`18:29.15`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`And that you only see it using a lot of CPU because of profiling?`
`18:29.16`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Oy.`
`18:29.22`	`Saroz`	`he's saying it does, because of the way it's coded`
`18:29.23`	`Saroz`	`... no shit`
`18:29.52`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I thought that things used lots of CPU due to random assignment on startup`
`18:30.08`	`Saroz`	`ktm uses a lot when just standing still solo on shatt`
`18:30.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Okay, 600-byte addon, you're using 87% of the CPU this go-round!`
`18:30.12`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yeah.`
`18:30.43`	`mexicaan`	`Josh_Borke: Even with InCombatLockdown(), I miss the first combatevent, because InCombatLockdown() doesnt return true the first combatevent`
`18:30.46`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So what I want to know is...`
`18:30.54`	`Josh_Borke`	`mexicaan: what first combat event?`
`18:30.58`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`...why don't the rest of my addons give such high overhead with profiling turned on?`
`18:31.31`	`CIA-22`	`03Octane666 * r36772 10DrWhoLib/ (. DrWho-1.0/DrWho-1.0.lua):`
`18:31.31`	`CIA-22`	`DrWhoLib:`
`18:31.31`	`CIA-22`	`- Removed commented code.`
`18:31.59`	`mexicaan`	`Josh_Borke: Player attacks a mob -> a combatevent is triggered`
`18:32.21`	`Josh_Borke`	`mexicaan: what are you trying to do?`
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`18:33.08`	`mexicaan`	`Josh_Borke: What i decribed 20 line sup o<):�`
`18:33.50`	`Josh_Borke`	`why do you only want to start monitoring when they enter combat?`
`18:33.58`	`stavmar`	`uhm, weird, I have quartz enabled on my addons screen but I cannot configure it and I have no casting bar and no bugs, WTH?`
`18:34.14`	`Josh_Borke`	`type /script LoadAddon("Quartz")`
`18:34.53`	`Kaelten`	`holy shit the server is at about 35 Mbits/s for the month`
`18:35.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`grep -c onupdate -i * -R > 103. :O`
`18:36.21`	`stavmar`	`Josh_Borke: I typoed that and received an error`
`18:36.25`	`stavmar`	`typed*`
`18:36.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Man, I'll bet you could cut down some serious CPU time by registering/unregistering onupdates.`
`18:36.32`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Rather than just "hay let's call them all the time :V"`
`18:37.05`	`stavmar`	`Josh_Borke: http://ace.pastey.net/39646`
`18:37.20`	`Josh_Borke`	`did you do it with a big L?`
`18:37.28`	`stavmar`	`nope`
`18:37.41`	`Josh_Borke`	`i typed it with a big L`
`18:37.49`	`stavmar`	`okay got the same error`
`18:37.53`	`Josh_Borke`	`hm`
`18:38.00`	`Josh_Borke`	`try /ace2 load Quartz`
`18:38.39`	`NeoTron`	`ah`
`18:38.56`	`NeoTron`	`so he keeps polling the gear for set bonuses / enchants that affects threat`
`18:38.57`	`stavmar`	`Josh_Borke: ok that loaded it, any reason hwy that did not happen at startup?`
`18:39.02`	`Josh_Borke`	`nope`
`18:39.03`	`NeoTron`	`no wonder it's using so much cpu when "idle"`
`18:39.20`	`Josh_Borke`	`arguably he should consider not scanning unless in a group/raid`
`18:39.22`	`Ironhand`	`I just updated all my Ace addons and Prat (so I assume) is still adding a :number to names when I click a name to whisper in chat... current Prat version is 36686`
`18:40.23`	`CIA-22`	`03ominous * r36773 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: growup is even more purdy now`
`18:40.23`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yup.`
`18:40.31`	`NeoTron`	`well`
`18:40.32`	`Wixi`	`So if i want to update all my addons without installing all the libs into the /addon/randommob/ folder i use "Install/Update all marked addons without externals" in WAU?`
`18:40.33`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm gonna see what I can do to hack it up.`
`18:40.35`	`NeoTron`	`polling overall is dumb`
`18:40.41`	`NeoTron`	`should only check on event changes`
`18:40.46`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`You don't need to be polling if you're not in a raid and/or not in combat.`
`18:40.56`	`NeoTron`	`and to avoid "burst issues" just have a slight delay before you actually call`
`18:40.58`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`NeoTron: Exactly. You can mitigate burst problems by using scheduled events in response to event.`
`18:41.03`	`harldephin`	`hm. i shoula backed up my nQuestLog's Bindings.xml before updating it`
`18:41.05`	`Ironhand`	`ah, my apologies re: Prat problem - it seems my ScenRaid was loaded and also hooks into the mouse clicks`
`18:41.19`	`NeoTron`	`and yeah if you're not in combat, who cares. when you enter combat, scan once`
`18:41.24`	`NeoTron`	`afaik there are no weapons that affect threat`
`18:42.48`	`NeoTron`	`time to create a new threat meter that isn't designed in a stupid fashio`
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`18:44.53`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc\|Work: btw I use ktm with just me and my pet, so don't have to be in a group/raid for it to be useful`
`18:45.09`	`NeoTron`	`sure don't have to do any updates out of combat though`
`18:45.24`	`kenlyric`	`corkfu... should I be able to use that mod to actually cast the buffs on myself?`
`18:48.04`	`harldephin`	`strange.. where did i see something called like SitOrStand again.. i forgot`
`18:48.07`	`kergoth`	`NeoTron, there are weapons with procs that affect threat.. not many, buti 've seen them`
`18:48.22`	`kenlyric`	`thunderfury :)`
`18:48.31`	`CIA-22`	`03gruk * r36774 10FuBar_FuzzyClockFu/ (4 files): FuBar_FuzzyClockFu: Initial Release`
`18:50.10`	`sbu`	`gruk: screenshot plz!`
`18:50.11`	`sbu`	`meh...`
`18:50.12`	`sbu`	`and irc :p`
`18:50.15`	`kergoth`	`fuzzyclock?`
`18:50.27`	`sbu`	`no idea`
`18:51.13`	`sbu`	`Notes: A fuzzy clock for FuBar / X-Credit: Based on FuBar - ClockFu by ckknight`
`18:51.14`	`sbu`	`eh hm`
`18:51.44`	`sbu`	`normalFuzzy = { "0 o\'clock", "Five past 0", "Ten past 0" <-- ah :o`
`18:51.54`	`sbu`	`dayTime = { "Night","Early morning"`
`18:51.55`	`sbu`	`hm ok`
`18:51.57`	`sbu`	`sounds funny :p`
`18:51.59`	`kenlyric`	`ok, I just don't understan corkfu.`
`18:52.22`	`kergoth`	`sbu, odd`
`18:52.48`	`phyber`	`heh, so I hadn't updated my sRaidFrames since TOC 20000. forgot to add it to my update script. d'oh ;)`
`18:55.18`	`deltron`	`heh pitbull has replaced almost all my other frames`
`18:55.19`	`phyber`	`PitBull will replace mine when A) I make a sRF or PerfectRaid layout for it, B) Someone else makes a sRF or PerfectRaid layout for it ;)`
`18:55.20`	`deltron`	`hehe`
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`18:55.24`	`deltron`	`yeah it can get large`
`18:55.24`	`deltron`	`but I'm only in kara for the most part`
`18:55.24`	`sbu`	`phyber: working on it...`
`18:55.25`	`kenlyric`	`anything like corkfu that actually works?`
`18:55.25`	`phyber`	`sbu: cool :)`
`18:55.25`	`kergoth`	`guess my phone interview with montavista went well yesterday, they want me in their tempe, az office next week for an in person meeting`
`18:55.25`	`kenlyric`	`guess the reason it's not doing what I want is it's vomiting all over bugsack.`
`18:55.25`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`18:55.40`	`CIA-22`	`03Octane666 * r36775 10DrWhoLib/DrWho-1.0/DrWho-1.0.lua:`
`18:55.40`	`CIA-22`	`DrWhoLib:`
`18:55.40`	`CIA-22`	`- Fixed bug that would actually show some who lookups performed by other Addons in the chat frame.`
`18:55.48`	`sbu`	`phyber: but could take some time.. few weeks ;)`
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`18:56.26`	`sbu`	`phyber: http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/5457/pbraidv2sfhv6.png - that was 1 week ago, but didnt do anything since then.. heroics + raid > interface :p`
`18:56.42`	`Wixi`	`I find grid quit nice for raid frames, can make them fairly small`
`18:57.05`	`phyber`	`sbu: that's hot.`
`18:57.05`	`sbu`	`and exactly thats my problem with grid Wixi :o`
`18:57.36`	`Wixi`	`oh? lol, i must've missed a bit of chat >.<`
`18:57.38`	`kenlyric`	`not small. compact.`
`18:57.53`	`sbu`	`phyber: need to get some border and auras have to be inside :o`
`18:58.03`	`kenlyric`	`you can make any raid frame small, but at a certain size the information become unprocessible.`
`18:58.10`	`deltron`	`sbu: oh nice, how'd you do that?`
`18:58.19`	`sbu`	`phyber: taking too much space at the moment since you have 2 buffs left and 2 debuffs right`
`18:58.19`	`kergoth`	`i find it easy to process grid's indicators`
`18:58.24`	`Wixi`	`sbu: what is it you need them to sho`
`18:58.27`	`kenlyric`	`kergoth: exactly.`
`18:58.32`	Funkeh`	`what is the point of 2 'who' libraries`
`18:58.36`	`kenlyric`	`which is why it's compact, not small :)`
`18:58.37`	Funkeh`	`christ`
`18:58.49`	`kergoth`	`can take it in at a glance, less looking all over the screen for hte data`
`18:58.56`	`deltron`	`I need my raid frames to show health or debit of health, and any debuffs that I can fix`
`18:59.02`	`sbu`	`deltron: created some custom layout, but i think its possible with ABF now - ckk hacked some stuff in`
`18:59.10`	`sbu`	`(text positioning)`
`18:59.25`	`deltron`	`hmm`
`19:01.05`	`kenlyric`	`I honestly don't know how I healed 40 mans without it, my eye having travel all over the screen. But then again, I had decursive and various forms of an emergency monitor then.`
`19:01.05`	`kergoth`	`i should really put XRS back in my set for my rogue, he doesnt give a shit about who's cursed`
`19:01.05`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`19:03.06`	`Wixi`	`Whats a usual amount for Ace2 lib to use for memory?`
`19:03.17`	`abyssichate`	`I get about 5-6MB`
`19:03.28`	`abyssichate`	`which is reasonable I guess`
`19:03.34`	`Wixi`	`ah ok, mines not excessive`
`19:03.34`	`kergoth`	`mine starts at 3.5 and goes up a bit after that, since its getting blamed for some addon stuff`
`19:03.57`	`Wixi`	`1sttime i looked at it and it said 4.5mb, it seemed higher than i expected :)`
`19:04.29`	`Fisker-`	`bah`
`19:04.32`	`Fisker-`	`gate closed on magtheridon here`
`19:05.24`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`Tupsi: Yeah that error is blizzard: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105750997&sid=1&pageNo=1`
`19:07.23`	`Antiarc\|Wor1`	`Anyone in-game and running KTM?`
`19:07.29`	`Fisker-`	`btw`
`19:07.42`	`Fisker-`	`for some odd reason instances seem to merge with the zonemaps`
`19:07.54`	`Fisker-`	`i.e. hellfire peninsula on top of mag's lair map`
`19:07.54`	`sbu`	`yep Fisker-`
`19:08.04`	`sbu`	`same with karazhan`
`19:08.04`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Antiarc\|Work yes`
`19:08.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`FtH\|Daemona: If you have access to profiling stuff, can you see if KTM's CPU disappears with "/script klhtm.isenabled = false" ?`
`19:08.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`If so, I'm thinking I could write a little manager that just switches it on and off in response to various events.`
`19:08.58`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`will need to enable cpu profiling first ;) gimme a second`
`19:09.10`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm digging through the code looking for optimization points`
`19:09.35`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`There are a few really obvious ones, but if the global switch works, then I can probably cut its "useless" usage pretty heavily.`
`19:09.41`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`though i can answer the question for yuo if the script command das the same as /ktm disable ;)`
`19:10.03`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I don't know if it does or not.`
`19:10.13`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`kk, reloading ui to enable profiling`
`19:10.37`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`i KNOW /ktm disable cuts it down to 0.001% usage, tried that on ptr last week`
`19:10.48`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Awesome. I suspect that's similar.`
`19:10.52`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm gonna write a manager mod then.`
`19:11.31`	`durcyn`	`Fisker-: can be temporarily cleared by toggling foglight off`
`19:11.41`	`phyber`	`instead of polishing turds, you could create a nice new thing ;)`
`19:11.57`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It'll take me 5 minutes to write a wrapper to cut out 99% of its wasted cycles`
`19:12.03`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Antiarc\|Work -> hovers between 0.01 and 0.02%`
`19:12.03`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It'd take me a lot longer to rewrite it. :)`
`19:12.09`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`FtH\|Daemona: Thank you!`
`19:12.13`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Wrapper mod incoming then.`
`19:12.24`	`Kalman\|`	`Antiarc: Publicize the hell out of that thing.`
`19:12.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Will be doing so. :)`
`19:12.33`	`Kalman\|`	`Or, you know, just link it to me. ;)`
`19:12.41`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Kenco is pretty obviously not interested in improving performance.`
`19:12.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So I'll do it for him. :D`
`19:13.04`	`durcyn`	`what'd be even more spiffy is if your manager used S&D, hint hint`
`19:13.07`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`i'd prefer a rewritten ace'd one though :X`
`19:13.14`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I would too, but I'm lazy.`
`19:13.29`	`CIA-22`	`03helium * r36776 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: SharedMediaLib: Updated zhTW system fonts`
`19:13.32`	`Kalman\|`	`I looked at the code and realized it would take a lot of effort to rewrite.`
`19:13.39`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yeah.`
`19:14.03`	`Fisker-`	`it's a shame i can't evade bug magtheridon anymore`
`19:14.08`	`Fisker-`	`to reset the event`
`19:14.20`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`how much cookie and milk would i have to send to you to make a ace'd one?`
`19:14.21`	`Saroz`	`uhm`
`19:14.26`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`oh joy, the old children's week quests are back in, I can finally get my Speedy!`
`19:14.28`	`Saroz`	`anyone else loosing their channels all the time? points @ prat`
`19:14.44`	`Kalman\|`	`Daemona: At overseas shipping rates, quite a lot.`
`19:14.51`	`Fisker-`	`i'm not`
`19:14.55`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`blame the re-implemented LFG channel ;)`
`19:15.07`	`frank83x`	`so what the hell is up with castsequence`
`19:15.10`	`CIA-22`	`03nimbal * r36777 10Buffalo2/ (8 files in 2 dirs):`
`19:15.10`	`CIA-22`	`Buffalo2:`
`19:15.10`	`CIA-22`	`- Changed template system a little bit, there is a sub-table "Buttons" in the template that deals with just about any function related to the buff buttons.`
`19:15.10`	`CIA-22`	`- Added debuff borders`
`19:15.10`	`CIA-22`	`- Added flashing for Blizzard template`
`19:15.20`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`yeah you have to join the LFG queue, leave the lookingforgroup channel.. that will free it up`
`19:15.33`	`durcyn`	`Daemona: i'd have to agree. damn thing shifted my channels off by one without telling me`
`19:15.36`	`sbu`	`Antiarc\|Work: oh - fixing KTM?`
`19:15.41`	`Kalman\|`	`So, a question on UnitDebuff's new time-return function; does it return time for debuffs you can cast, or for debuffs you did cast?`
`19:15.47`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`sbu: Band-aiding it anyway.`
`19:16.06`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Kalman\| i assume those you can cast and are applied by you`
`19:16.23`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`cause i dont see timers for other rogues deadly _i think_`
`19:16.33`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`no 2nd rogue to verify in raid currently though`
`19:16.33`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`castsequence is causing errors, add a semicolon to the end of your macro to fix`
`19:16.44`	`frank83x`	`nice`
`19:16.47`	`sbu`	`Antiarc\|Work: hm how? and whats the main problem of ktm? not that hueg data overhead (which is synchronized every x second)?`
`19:16.55`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`sbu: CPU usage`
`19:17.08`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It's stupid and doesn't care about events and just runs a billion onupdates every few frames.`
`19:17.15`	`Fisker-`	`Kalman\| the debuffs/buff you cast`
`19:17.17`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Even when it doesn't need to`
`19:17.18`	`Fisker-`	`and only that`
`19:17.20`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`its causing 2-5% cpu load out of combat while flying 400y above ground ungrouped`
`19:17.24`	`Fisker-`	`which is lame :(`
`19:17.24`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`thats the problem`
`19:17.41`	`phyber`	`2-5, lucky you. 15% here.`
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`19:17.52`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It's about a constant 6% here.`
`19:17.57`	`sbu`	`niec :o`
`19:18.11`	`CIA-22`	`03gruk * r36778 10FuBar_FuzzyClockFu/libs/: FuBar_FuzzyClockFu: externals`
`19:18.13`	`Fisker-`	`got 4-8% myself`
`19:18.38`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`worst is performance_fu (with cpu enabled profiling) ;)`
`19:18.46`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yes, but that's expected :P`
`19:18.57`	`durcyn`	`threat meters, pfeh. in my day we just nuked the mob and died if we were stupid.`
`19:19.34`	`Wixi`	`my ktm is between 2,8 and 4%, TabletLibs is about 1.6-2% tho`
`19:19.37`	`Fisker-`	`can anyone change the respawn timer for hellfire warders to 2 hours?`
`19:19.50`	`durcyn`	`Fisker-: already been done, sir`
`19:20.03`	`Fisker-`	`rawr`
`19:20.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol wow http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/quest/ogrilazy/`
`19:20.10`	`Fisker-`	`then the files page is down again :<`
`19:20.21`	`durcyn`	`Fisker-: nope, try again.`
`19:20.47`	`durcyn`	`look for 36769`
`19:21.12`	`Fisker-`	`bug in WAU then :o`
`19:21.30`	`NeoTron`	`it's funny how ktm would even update gear on a timer anyway`
`19:21.32`	`Fisker-`	`i keep getting "Downloading new cache file" and then it just stops updating`
`19:21.41`	`NeoTron`	`because out of combat it doesn't matter. in combat you can't change gear`
`19:21.52`	`NeoTron`	`so I wonder what kind of "problem" he tried to fix`
`19:21.53`	`Fisker-`	`you can change weapons though`
`19:22.24`	`NeoTron`	`true`
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`19:22.32`	`durcyn`	`hm, it really shouldn't be that hard to write a violation module for threat`
`19:22.35`	`NeoTron`	`but are there any +/- threat stuff for weapons?`
`19:22.39`	`sbu`	`Antiarc\|Work: 10 minutes now... :p`
`19:22.49`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Ssh. >_>`
`19:22.56`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm researching events.`
`19:23.07`	`Fisker-`	`i think there are some proc weapons that can lower threat`
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`19:23.15`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`There are`
`19:23.15`	`Fisker-`	`but he could just use the combat log for that`
`19:23.22`	`NeoTron`	`KTM is a nice accomplishment. too bad he's the kind of guy who would refuse optimizing the code in logical ways`
`19:23.23`	`Wixi`	`NeoTron: how does battlemaster enchant work? does the proc heal count as a heal threat, or threat fromt he weapon`
`19:23.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`but those would be combatlog or buffs`
`19:23.39`	`NeoTron`	`Wixi: that is true, battlemaster does add threat (or did at least)`
`19:23.52`	`NeoTron`	`and yeah those shows in the combat log`
`19:23.52`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Wixi battlemaster isnt worth considering for ANYTHING`
`19:23.54`	`CIA-22`	`03gruk * r36779 10FuBar_FuzzyClockFu/FuBar_FuzzyClockFu.toc: FuBar_FuzzyClockFu: toc version changed`
`19:23.56`	`NeoTron`	`the user heals the party members`
`19:24.03`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`the proc rate is abyssmal`
`19:24.08`	`Wixi`	`NeoTron: the Heal effect it does creates a lot of agro, i've seen it kill rogues =X`
`19:24.23`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`rogues enchanting battlemaster are stupid :X`
`19:24.29`	`Fisker-`	`why would anyone buff any of those enchants anyways? :P`
`19:24.33`	`Fisker-`	`most silly enchant in the game`
`19:24.41`	`Fisker-`	`i lol each time i see Spellsurge on AH for 500g BO`
`19:24.41`	`Wixi`	`battlemaster procs a nice lot`
`19:24.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`spellsurge rocks`
`19:25.20`	`Fisker-`	`lolwut?`
`19:25.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Anyone know what the event is when a member of your party enters combat?`
`19:25.26`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`any melee dps class with battlemaster enchant on their weapons didnt understand their role in a raid environment. end of discussion.`
`19:25.38`	`durcyn`	`mongoose, hello.`
`19:25.43`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Mongoose = sexah`
`19:26.04`	`CIA-22`	`03ominous * r36780 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: fix for buff colors`
`19:26.08`	`Kaydeethree`	`gah! 5975/6k with netherwing. gotta find another egg so I can start the race quests`
`19:26.14`	`Wixi`	`the theory was that a rigue DW'd it to provide a lot of regular heals to the group, however they didn't take into account the amount of agro the heals was giving`
`19:26.23`	`Wixi`	`rogue*`
`19:26.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Why would you have a rogue DW battlemaster when you could use vamp embrace, judgment of light, and/or Imp LotP?`
`19:27.17`	`Wixi`	`as i said, it was a theory :)`
`19:27.18`	`Iceroth`	`why wouldn't you? it's not like it's exclusive`
`19:27.19`	`Kalman\|`	`Battlemaster is silly, Spellsurge is worth considering.`
`19:27.28`	`Fisker-`	`why?`
`19:27.35`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: why does performancefu need fubar?`
`19:27.38`	`Kalman\|`	`Because more mana is always good, while more HP is often useless.`
`19:27.45`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Iceroth because taking melee dps with you only for one reason, dps, NOT healing.`
`19:27.58`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Iceroth: Because a rogue with Mongoose is going to contribute more to the fight than a rogue with Battlemaster, and you don't need passive heals like that due to the others I named.`
`19:28.29`	`CIA-22`	`03funkydude * r36781 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: fixes`
`19:32.32`	`Fisker-`	`how do you find debris btw?`
`19:32.34`	`durcyn`	`Kalman\|: say that again once you take an 11.5K hit with 12K health, it's actually kind of fun! :o`
`19:32.46`	`durcyn`	`Fisker-: in magtheridon?`
`19:33.14`	`Iceroth`	`i still fail to see how it is a bad thing that the melee group supports itself (unless mongoose or some such enchant is 10% of the dps)`
`19:33.36`	`Kalman\|`	`Because Battlemaster won't let the melee group support itself; it's like Crusader.`
`19:33.36`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Iceroth: Mongoose ends a fight a lot faster than Battlemaster. :)`
`19:33.53`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Haste is utterly amazing, especially for combat rogues`
`19:33.55`	`Kalman\|`	`If you need heals at all, you'll need more than it can provide, and if you don't need heals, it's totally wasted.`
`19:34.13`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Judgment of Light provides most all the passive heals your melee needs.`
`19:34.19`	`Fisker-`	`yeah durcyn`
`19:34.26`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I had like...30% overheal from JoR on Gruul last night.`
`19:34.36`	`durcyn`	`Fisker-: the 30% cave-in eventually gets around to hitting everyone in the room.. it's a debuff`
`19:34.37`	`kergoth`	`Ominous, classtimer still occasionally goes below the anchor when growup is enabled`
`19:34.39`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Iceroth mongoose is a plain 6% crit buff for rogues cause the uptimes get near 100%`
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`19:34.54`	`Ominous`	`kergoth: odd`
`19:34.58`	`Fisker-`	`i know that durcyn`
`19:35.01`	`Iceroth`	`dead rogue contributes amazinly little to the dps - my imp. lotp heals me on avarage if ~20% of all healing i need when dps'ing`
`19:35.04`	`kergoth`	`Ominous, seems like when i apply a third and 4th debuff to the target, it drops below`
`19:35.05`	`Fisker-`	`but he does the one that kills you`
`19:35.11`	`Fisker-`	`and i didn't see anything the last time`
`19:35.17`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Iceroth: Battlemaster is not going to make the difference between a dead or not-dead rogue.`
`19:35.18`	`durcyn`	`Fisker-: hrm? there's supposed to be an animation`
`19:35.18`	`Fisker-`	`no dust or anything on the ground`
`19:35.21`	`Ominous`	`kergoth: well i cant test myself until blizz get their godforsaken bums into gear and return my items :P`
`19:35.23`	`kergoth`	`second is anchored fine, but seems like after that it acts weird`
`19:35.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`However, Mongoose may make the difference between an OOM or not OOM healer.`
`19:35.30`	`kergoth`	`doh, hacked?`
`19:35.44`	`Ominous`	`yea`
`19:35.51`	`Iceroth`	`that's the exact same argument i'd use against :p`
`19:35.58`	`Ominous`	`4 were fine for me then`
`19:36.10`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=ohofxssttk6wi&m - I had 86% overheal on Judgment of Light.`
`19:36.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Battlemaster is wasted in that scenario. 100% wasted.`
`19:36.25`	`Ominous`	`kergoth: what rev are u using`
`19:37.10`	`Iceroth`	`overheal on something that doesn't cost you anything doesn't really matter, does it? (ok, JoL is bad example there but take that enchant or lotp or whatever)`
`19:37.17`	`Ominous`	`argh my ticket has been escilated for 5 fucking hours`
`19:37.23`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Iceroth: There's an opportunity cost.`
`19:37.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`At that point, your weapons might as well just not be enchanted.`
`19:37.50`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Whereas if you have a damage enchant, you contribute to the raid's DPS, save healer mana, and help kill the boss before enrage.`
`19:38.31`	`kergoth`	`Ominous, looks like it must be before your changes to growup today:`
`19:38.32`	`kergoth`	`~/code/wowbits/kergwow/addons$ svn propget piston:remote-revision ClassTimer`
`19:38.34`	`kergoth`	`36755`
`19:38.38`	`kergoth`	`i'll update and see how it acts`
`19:39.05`	`Ominous`	`kergoth: 36755 is the latest ver`
`19:39.10`	`kergoth`	`oh, okay then`
`19:39.12`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`19:39.14`	`Ominous`	`wel according to core.lua`
`19:39.21`	`Ominous`	`even tho the actual rev is higher`
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`19:43.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm wtf quartz and pt3bar arent loading by default for me now`
`19:43.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Check my logic here --`
`19:43.58`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`KTM only needs to be enabled if you, your pet, or a member of your raid/party has a target that is a hostile, alive NPC, correct?`
`19:44.26`	`Kaydeethree`	`while in a party/raid, ya`
`19:44.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`or one of them is in combat`
`19:44.54`	`Kaydeethree`	`no point in enabling it if you're soloing`
`19:44.57`	`CIA-22`	`03ominous * r36782 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/Rogue.lua Core.lua): ClassTimer: added some rogue stuff`
`19:45.01`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Kaydeethree: Hunters/locks would want it`
`19:45.04`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`For their pets.`
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`19:45.09`	`Kaydeethree`	`ah, true`
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`19:46.14`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'll just make it only be enabled for pet classes`
`19:47.04`	`Angry_Dwarf`	`so imp conc aura is bugged.. anyone know if TotB is as well?`
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`19:47.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Is there an event that fires when a member of your party enters combat?`
`19:48.16`	`Imp4kT`	`I guess so, seeing as there is a combat symbol`
`19:48.16`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`isnt there a unit afflicted combat event?`
`19:48.27`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`There's UNIT_COMBAT, yes`
`19:48.32`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Just wondering if that's the right one`
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`19:48.54`	`Imp4kT`	`I heard theres a bit issue with raid frames ATM which means Pitbull and AGUF are broken if you enter a raid`
`19:49.05`	`Imp4kT`	`Anyone got this issue or, doesnt have it?`
`19:49.05`	`Chompers`	`i'm about to take on netherspite, whats changed since the patch?`
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`19:49.14`	`Chompers`	`rather, what do we do now we cannot run out`
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`19:50.50`	`Megalon`	`Chompers: stay in the room and spread out`
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`19:51.04`	`Megalon`	`so the breath won't hit to much people`
`19:51.12`	`CIA-22`	`03funkydude * r36783 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: tweak`
`19:51.57`	`CIA-22`	`03nimbal * r36784 10Buffalo2/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`19:51.57`	`CIA-22`	`Buffalo2:`
`19:51.57`	`CIA-22`	`- changed the argument list of the methods in the standard templates to be more consistent`
`19:51.57`	`CIA-22`	`- added containers/user_containers.xml to TOC file. This file is not part of Buffalo2 per se, but the user can add it (by copying containers.xml) and register custom containers in it.`
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`19:53.05`	`Kalman\|`	`Unit_Combat looks right, Antiarc.`
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`19:57.42`	`CIA-22`	`03mcc * r36785 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/SkillsPlusFuLocals-zhTW.lua:`
`19:57.42`	`CIA-22`	`FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:`
`19:57.42`	`CIA-22`	`-Modify the translation to support 2.1.0 patch in Taiwan Server`
`19:59.00`	`CIA-22`	`03ominous * r36786 10ClassTimer/Bars/Rogue.lua: ClassTimer: changed a catigory to misc`
`20:00.00`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`playerpet is a valid target string, yes?`
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`20:00.31`	`Gnarfoz`	`hrm`
`20:00.36`	`Gnarfoz`	`maybe I missed it`
`20:00.42`	`Fisker-`	`excuse me Antiarc\|Work wtf r u doin?`
`20:00.50`	`Fisker-`	`(just curious)`
`20:00.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Fisker-: Writing a destupidifier for KTM`
`20:01.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`but what's up with Cartographer showing the zone's map on top of instance maps?`
`20:01.09`	`hyperChipmunk`	`vhaarr: ping`
`20:01.15`	`vhaarr`	`hyperChipmunk: pong`
`20:01.16`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I think I have it done, but I don't have any way to test it`
`20:01.21`	`Fisker-`	`ooh`
`20:01.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Though it passes the syntax check \o/`
`20:01.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`does closetgnome handle profession bags intelligently?`
`20:01.37`	`kergoth`	`Gnarfoz, good question`
`20:01.43`	`vhaarr`	`hyperChipmunk: I think it should, but I haven't really tested it properly.`
`20:02.05`	`kergoth`	`i noticed that if i hit alt-m to open the alternate map (i have it smaller, in the upper left, and the backgroundt ransparent) didnt exhibit that behavior`
`20:02.12`	`kergoth`	`so it may be something with the transparency`
`20:02.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i hate trying to equip itemrack sets and have stuff fail because the item is coming from my engineering bag, but the item it's replacing won't go in`
`20:02.45`	`Gnarfoz`	`kergoth: dunno, I tried changing around settings, it happens for Shadow Lab but not for Sethekk Halls`
`20:02.54`	`kergoth`	`hyperChipmunk: sounds like itll have to do the unequip/equip in two steps, eh?`
`20:02.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`other than that, no idea`
`20:02.56`	`kergoth`	`Gnarfoz, oh weird`
`20:03.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea`
`20:03.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`actually no`
`20:03.28`	`Gnarfoz`	`now it happens for every dungeon :D`
`20:03.35`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i do that manually now`
`20:03.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i switch to engineering trinket set, then to the new step`
`20:03.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`set*`
`20:04.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and keep the first engineering set outside the eng bag`
`20:05.11`	`Gnarfoz`	`ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/39687`
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`20:06.40`	`kergoth`	`~botmail for elkano: there's some odd behavior with elkbuffbars and a bar group targeting my pet (hunter). when a buff expires, the status bar stretches to the full screen width before vanishing, and buffs with no time component (i.e. spirit bond) show as 0:00 instead of not showing the time at all`
`20:08.42`	`durcyn`	`Gnarfoz: weirdness in Foglight, near as i can tell`
`20:09.05`	`Saint-N`	`bahahaha`
`20:09.12`	`Saint-N`	`winzip isnt trialware anymore`
`20:09.19`	`Saint-N`	`they expect people to actually pay for it`
`20:09.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`durcyn: I'll try that`
`20:09.53`	`durcyn`	`Gnarfoz: toggling it cleared the overlay for me yesterday, ymmv`
`20:09.59`	`Gnarfoz`	`Saint-N: that makes sense, now... or wait - that would have made sense 10 years ago :D`
`20:10.18`	`Saint-N`	`hehe yeah`
`20:10.29`	`Saint-N`	`hrm pay for winzip or just 7zip or winrar for free...`
`20:10.32`	`Saint-N`	`hmmmmm`
`20:10.35`	`Saint-N`	`tough call there`
`20:10.36`	`Gnarfoz`	`winrar is not free ^^`
`20:10.41`	`durcyn`	`7zip's context menu is all i need`
`20:10.42`	`Saint-N`	`it is to a degree`
`20:10.51`	`Saint-N`	`winrar doesnt disable itself after the trial`
`20:10.51`	`Gnarfoz`	`7zip ftw`
`20:10.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`yeah but it's annoying ^^`
`20:12.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`hm`
`20:12.38`	`CIA-22`	`03antiarc * r36787 10/KTMCPUManager/ (. KTMCPUManager.lua KTMCPUManager.toc): KTMCPUManager: Initial commit. Drycoded and not tested yet.`
`20:12.49`	`Gnarfoz`	`durcyn: doesn't help for me :< disabling instance maps and re enabling it makes it go broken, like the link above shows :\`
`20:12.56`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Look it over, yell at me for its stupidities please.`
`20:13.04`	`durcyn`	`Gnarfoz: nono, toggle Foglight, not instancemaps`
`20:13.13`	`Gnarfoz`	`did that before`
`20:13.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`before I did the instancemaps cycling`
`20:13.35`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`DOH.`
`20:13.39`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`DOH DOH DOH.`
`20:13.42`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Uh.`
`20:13.50`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/`
`20:13.53`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Someone help me delete that. -_-`
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`20:14.07`	`Saint-N`	`someone needs to make an instance gps`
`20:14.14`	Funkeh`	`wtf is ktmcpumanager lol`
`20:14.35`	`CIA-22`	`03antiarc * r36788 10/KTMCPUManager/: KTMCPUManager: So, committing a directory up sucks.`
`20:14.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you can hide it by zooming out a level then closing the map`
`20:14.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`when you open it back up, it'll be correct`
`20:15.07`	`Kalman\|`	Funkeh`: Auto-disable KTM when it should be disabled, basically.
`20:15.18`	Funkeh`	`oh nice`
`20:15.21`	Funkeh`	`unregistering stuff?`
`20:15.27`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Kinda`
`20:15.59`	`Gnarfoz`	`Saint-N: yeah, that'd be neat. Cartographer_GPS or whatever, using gpslib ^^`
`20:16.10`	`vhaarr`	`hyperChipmunk: that should work fine in cg (re: swapping items from bags they don't go in)`
`20:17.40`	`CIA-22`	`03antiarc * r36789 10KTMCPUManager/ (. KTMCPUManager.lua KTMCPUManager.toc): KTMCPUManager: Initial commit (again, with less suckage this time). Drycoded, needs review/testing.`
`20:17.59`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/KTMCPUManager/KTMCPUManager.lua if you'd like to look it over.`
`20:18.08`	`durcyn`	`Gnarfoz: check out DungeonCrawler, someone already started testing that out :o`
`20:18.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Antiarc\|Work: o_0 lodstub for ktm?`
`20:18.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`NightHawkTheSane: Intelligent enabler/disabler.`
`20:18.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`interesting.`
`20:18.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm sick of it munching on my CPU when I'm just sitting around Shatt chatting.`
`20:19.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`vhaarr: nope =x`
`20:19.42`	`Fisker-`	`wtf`
`20:19.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`That item does not go in that container.`
`20:19.57`	`Fisker-`	`he cast the knocback thingy while doing blast nova`
`20:20.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i tried to swap in two reflectors that were in my toolbox, with two nonengineered trinkets equipped`
`20:20.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the swap didn't happen`
`20:20.57`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and the ErrorFrame showed "That item does not go in that container." twice`
`20:21.20`	`Kaelten`	`well guys I have bad news`
`20:21.31`	`CIA-22`	`03antiarc * r36790 10KTMCPUManager/Libs/: KTMCPUManager: Added libs externals.`
`20:21.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`?`
`20:21.47`	`Kaelten`	`next version of wau is going to have to have ads in it`
`20:21.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Eh. Doesn't bother me.`
`20:21.59`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Small price to pay for it!`
`20:22.09`	`Killmore`	`what do KTMCPUManager exaclty ? on/off button ?`
`20:22.19`	`Kalman\|`	`About time, Kaelten.`
`20:22.20`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Killmore: Yeah, basically. Turns it off unless something interesting is going on.`
`20:22.26`	`Killmore`	`ok`
`20:22.32`	`Ominous`	`kaelten: fine but please no gold ads`
`20:22.32`	`Kaelten`	`Kalman\|: lol`
`20:22.34`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Because it's a CPU-hungry beast.`
`20:22.43`	Funkeh`	`Kaelten: not bothered, hosts file blocker ftw`
`20:22.47`	`Gnarfoz`	`durcyn: dungeoncrawler is by cryect, who also wrote gpslib and mode7, too :D`
`20:22.55`	`Kaelten`	`Ominous: I'm working with a new advertiser, I'm pretty sure I've cleaned up all the gold ads`
`20:23.01`	`Ominous`	`:)`
`20:23.08`	`Kaelten`	Funkeh`: you do realize that makes it harder for me to provide the service?
`20:23.21`	Funkeh`	`Kaelten: i don't click on adds anyway`
`20:23.25`	Funkeh`	`so it makes no difference`
`20:23.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Impressions make some money, too.`
`20:23.32`	`Kaelten`	`some of them pay by the view`
`20:23.47`	`Killmore`	`Antiarc\|Work: should have an option to turn on when you zone inside an instance and be off when your not in a group/raid`
`20:23.53`	`renchap`	`you can also give me money for svn.wowace.com \\o`
`20:23.53`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm at around 20k views/day on my sig generator and it makes $10 or so for those views. shrug`
`20:23.56`	Funkeh`	`yeah well im not going to view adds on other sites so that you can gain revenue sorry, ill donate fine`
`20:23.56`	`renchap`	`(joke)`
`20:24.01`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Really helps diffuse to $120/mo hosting :D`
`20:24.14`	`Kaelten`	`Antiarc\|Work: lol`
`20:24.30`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Killmore: It's auto-off when you're not in a group and don't have a pet, and it's off when you are grouped unless you or someone in your group is in combat or has a hostile target.`
`20:24.39`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Hostile NPC target, I should say`
`20:24.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It leaves it off for hostile PC targets`
`20:24.46`	`Killmore`	`Antiarc\|Work: omg nice !`
`20:24.53`	`Saint-N`	`so yer making 300/mn on 20k/day views?`
`20:24.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`That's the theory anyway`
`20:25.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Give or take, Saint-N, yeah.`
`20:25.15`	`Saint-N`	`nifty`
`20:25.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It's been really nice. I was able to use those funds to rebuild the box when it 'sploded :D`
`20:25.35`	`Saint-N`	`heh`
`20:25.49`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`My wife was really happy that I didn't have to pull out of our date night fund. grin`
`20:25.49`	`Saint-N`	`i like it when things generate enough to continue thier existence`
`20:26.13`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yeah. Hope Kaelten experiences the same :)`
`20:26.13`	`Kaelten`	`heh, wowace lost serious money this patch day`
`20:26.13`	`renchap`	`with 15k views i have only 0.8$/day :/`
`20:26.13`	`Saint-N`	`specially silly little side project things`
`20:26.14`	`Saint-N`	`haha kael`
`20:26.16`	`sbu`	`Antiarc\|Work: uhm, ktm stuff works?`
`20:26.22`	`sbu`	`so i can distribute it to guild? :p`
`20:26.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`sbu: Untested so far!`
`20:26.27`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I drycoded it`
`20:26.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Please wait for me to test it to distribute it`
`20:26.32`	`sbu`	`ok, should test it first then ;p`
`20:26.32`	`Kaelten`	`Saint-N: its in the works`
`20:26.34`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`(Or test it yourself)`
`20:26.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm at work for another 4 hours.`
`20:26.43`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`But I'll test tonight`
`20:27.39`	`Kaelten`	`Antiarc\|Work: I'm at 35mbits for the month (90th percentile)`
`20:27.44`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Auuuuugh.`
`20:27.50`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Dude. Ouch.`
`20:27.52`	`Saint-N`	`wow`
`20:27.53`	`Kaelten`	`yep`
`20:27.58`	`Kaelten`	`and the patch day isn't over yet`
`20:28.03`	`Saint-N`	`might wanna put an update timer on that wau`
`20:28.04`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`brb, hitting paypal.`
`20:28.11`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`20:28.26`	`Saint-N`	`delay it so it cant be spammed ;P`
`20:28.30`	`Kaelten`	`saint-N: I don't think that'd fix the issue`
`20:28.36`	`Kaelten`	`since it pretty much can't get spammed now`
`20:28.37`	`renchap`	`Kaelten: what is your box ? (link ?)`
`20:28.39`	`Saint-N`	`1 update every hour`
`20:28.48`	`Kaelten`	`it only checks for new addons every 10 mins`
`20:28.53`	`Saint-N`	`oh`
`20:29.08`	`Kaelten`	`and if there are no updates then it won't update past that one file`
`20:29.10`	`Fisker-`	`hell, it's about time`
`20:29.14`	`Kaelten`	`renchap you mean server box?`
`20:29.19`	`Fisker-`	`been wiping for 3 hours due to cubes now`
`20:29.23`	`renchap`	`yup`
`20:29.24`	`Saint-N`	`what else are you doing with that box?`
`20:29.33`	`Gnarfoz`	`hyperChipmunk: was your advice earlier intended for the instance maps issue with cartographer?`
`20:29.33`	`Kaelten`	`dual core athalon`
`20:29.39`	`Saint-N`	`just the svn/html?`
`20:29.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`the zooming out stuff`
`20:29.50`	`Kaelten`	`forums, wiki, dev svn, hrm`
`20:29.59`	`Kaelten`	`seems like something else too`
`20:30.02`	`Kaelten`	`trac?`
`20:30.10`	`Kaelten`	`oh and the files`
`20:30.12`	`renchap`	`i realy like my 100mbit box for only 19 euros/month`
`20:30.16`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`20:30.23`	`Ominous`	`surley its using alot transferring from dev.wowace to svn.wowace?`
`20:30.25`	`vhaarr`	`hyperChipmunk: okay, well feel free to take a look, I can't now`
`20:30.28`	`Kaelten`	`its a dual core athalon 64 with 2GB of ram`
`20:30.31`	`Saint-N`	`if ya need some place to offload partial html hosting lemme know`
`20:30.34`	`Kaelten`	`ominous not that much all in all`
`20:30.37`	`Ominous`	`k`
`20:30.45`	`Saint-N`	`like the wiki/trac crap`
`20:31.16`	`Kaelten`	`appriciate the offer, but I'm going to pass for the moment, going to continue to grow the server's capabilities even though it bites me in the ass on patch day :P`
`20:31.26`	`Saint-N`	`ya know what would make the wau better?`
`20:31.28`	`Kaelten`	`the server was literally doing as much as it possibily can for the last two days`
`20:31.31`	`Kaelten`	`ads?`
`20:31.33`	`Kaelten`	`:P`
`20:31.34`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`What's the load average?`
`20:31.35`	`CIA-22`	`03darchon * r36791 10MountMe/ (Core.lua ItemSwap.lua):`
`20:31.35`	`CIA-22`	`MountMe`
`20:31.35`	`CIA-22`	`- support of skybreaker whip`
`20:31.37`	`Saint-N`	`if the authors actually made readmes to tell you wtf you were downloading ;P`
`20:31.51`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Saint-N: That's what the commit logs are for! cough`
`20:31.52`	`Saint-N`	`Junkypoo: lets get the poo!`
`20:31.53`	`Kaelten`	`Antiarc\|Work: last two days ~17`
`20:31.56`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Dear god.`
`20:32.09`	`renchap`	`Kaelten: dont use apache ! :)`
`20:32.09`	`Saint-N`	`yeah but you show me where i can find out what it does BEFORE i download it and ill bge happy`
`20:32.10`	`Kaelten`	`Saint-N: we're going to have descriptions in the list in wau2`
`20:32.19`	`Saint-N`	`;)`
`20:32.23`	`Kaelten`	`renchap I use apache for part of the site, the heavy use part is lighty`
`20:32.23`	`Ominous`	`how long till wau2?`
`20:32.34`	`Kaelten`	`beta in 2-4 weeks`
`20:32.41`	`Ominous`	`excellent :)`
`20:32.53`	`Kaelten`	`thats the plan anyways`
`20:33.02`	`Kaelten`	`an extra java rcp developer would help speed it up`
`20:33.05`	`sdouble`	`descriptions would be great, as well as the date added`
`20:33.09`	`Ominous`	`for the love of god, i have had my ticket excillated for 5/6 fucking hours now`
`20:33.25`	`Kaelten`	`sdouble as time goes by we'll try :)`
`20:33.26`	`Ominous`	`kealten: what language is it based in`
`20:33.33`	`Kaelten`	`Ominous: java`
`20:33.44`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Wow, really? I'd have expected C#`
`20:34.08`	`Kaelten`	`well at the time when I called for help java people answered`
`20:34.10`	`Ominous`	`kaelten: does that mean who ever uses it will have to install java`
`20:34.20`	`Saint-N`	`ewwwwww`
`20:34.26`	`Kaelten`	`ominous:we're going to make it as easy as possibile to run with no issues`
`20:34.29`	`Saint-N`	`did you just say taht wau2 is gonna be java?`
`20:34.41`	`Kaelten`	`so far its an extremely l responsive app`
`20:34.54`	`Saint-N`	`java is fromthe loins of satan`
`20:34.58`	`Kaelten`	`so is .net`
`20:35.00`	`Saint-N`	`for shame!`
`20:35.02`	`Saint-N`	`on`
`20:35.03`	`Saint-N`	`no`
`20:35.06`	`Kaelten`	`they're about even in my book`
`20:35.06`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`20:35.11`	`sbu`	`hmmm`
`20:35.14`	`Saint-N`	`.net is from the loins of satans fucktoy ;P`
`20:35.52`	`sbu`	`Antiarc\|Work: wtf - listening to UNIT_TARGET and iterating the whole raidgrp is cheaper than the stuff KTM currently does??`
`20:36.13`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`sbu: It only iterates if the fired target loses its target`
`20:36.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`If you gain or switch a target, it's O(1)`
`20:36.30`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Otherwise it's O(n)`
`20:36.30`	`Ominous`	`heh, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6268.0;`
`20:36.31`	`sbu`	`oh hm righ`
`20:36.32`	`sbu`	`t`
`20:36.48`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`And yes, it's likely many, many, many times cheaper than KTM.`
`20:37.03`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`KTM passively consumes 5-15% of your CPU per frame when idle, more in combat.`
`20:37.05`	`sbu`	`UNIT_TARGET is also whole raid? so no way it doesnt run in some strange combat situations?`
`20:37.10`	`Ominous`	`ktm usees rediculas memor`
`20:37.21`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`sbu: As far as I can tell, yes. I'll know when I test it.`
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`20:37.33`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Actually`
`20:37.35`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I can improve that.`
`20:38.38`	`CIA-22`	`03antiarc * r36792 10KTMCPUManager/KTMCPUManager.lua: KTMCPUManager: Don't process targets if we've been in combat sometime in the last 15 sec - just assume KTM on.`
`20:38.51`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Tada!`
`20:39.02`	`Gnarfoz`	`if it weren't beneath all of the quite skilled authors who hang out here, we'd surely already have a (maybe ace'd) way more efficient, non-hog KTM alternative ^^`
`20:39.34`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'd love to rewrite KTM, but I have neither the patience or the will to maintain it.`
`20:39.39`	`Tornhoof`	`hmm any easy way to rotate textures degree wise?`
`20:39.49`	`Saint-N`	`wow`
`20:40.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`oh and the other part, they don't like or believe in threat meters ;D`
`20:40.02`	`Saint-N`	`longhorn doesnt have built in drivers for my 3com905b`
`20:40.09`	`Saint-N`	`thats kind of spooky`
`20:40.13`	`CIA-22`	`03pettigrow * r36793 10BigWigs/SC/ (6 files): BigWigs: SC: frFR Update`
`20:40.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`Saint-N: hey, legacy stuff is going that way -->`
`20:40.23`	`Fisker-`	`3com905b <3`
`20:40.25`	`Gnarfoz`	`:\`
`20:40.30`	`Saint-N`	`its a generic standard though`
`20:40.34`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Tornhoof: How good are you with rotation matrices? grin`
`20:40.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`they kicked out lots of ac97 drivers vor vista already`
`20:40.35`	`Fisker-`	`the 3com905b is the best nic ever done`
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`20:40.39`	`Saint-N`	`how could a server software NOT support it`
`20:40.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`seems they're doing the same again for longhorn`
`20:40.42`	`Fisker-`	`done/made`
`20:40.51`	`mexicaan`	`hi, is the .toc file of a addon also reloaded if i reloadui ?`
`20:40.56`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`mexicaan: Yes.`
`20:41.03`	`Saint-N`	`ijits i tells ya`
`20:41.29`	`Gnarfoz`	`but if it references new files that weren't loaded before, they won't get loaded until you restart your client`
`20:42.03`	`mexicaan`	`so it isnt reloaded :O`
`20:42.09`	`deltron`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105811473&sid=1`
`20:42.10`	`deltron`	`LOL`
`20:42.25`	`Gnarfoz`	`it is, just the 'new files' limitation`
`20:42.27`	`kenlyric`	`man, I love the cut the shared AH takes.`
`20:42.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`does it take a different cut from the other AH's?`
`20:42.47`	`kenlyric`	`15%`
`20:42.49`	`sbu`	`oh right`
`20:42.54`	`sbu`	`there is a gem section in the AH now?`
`20:42.59`	`Gnarfoz`	`there is`
`20:43.04`	`kenlyric`	`which was painful transfering 1050g :)`
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`20:43.46`	Punkie`	`vhaarr: one of my karazhan groups just had the prince mace :p`
`20:43.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Gnarfoz: yes`
`20:44.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`re: the instance trick`
`20:44.08`	`vhaarr`	Punkie`: fuck you man
`20:44.09`	`vhaarr`	`:(`
`20:44.19`	`hyperChipmunk`	`open map, zoom out, close map, reopen`
`20:45.06`	`CIA-22`	`03caldar * r36794 10cyCircled/ (15 files in 3 dirs):`
`20:45.06`	`CIA-22`	`cyCircled:`
`20:45.06`	`CIA-22`	`Added Vol and GoldOrbs to the skin choices.`
`20:45.06`	Punkie`	`vhaarr: no sign of my dagger, though :(`
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`20:45.53`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/24/egypt.snakes.ap/index.html`
`20:45.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`AWESOME.`
`20:46.04`	`Gnarfoz`	`hyperChipmunk: didn't work for me :\|`
`20:47.22`	`harldephin`	`my pitbull's target unit frame's sometimes not being shown (or maybe hidden after entering combat) though i'm still fighting the enemy atp`
`20:51.39`	`sbu`	`update!?`
`20:52.33`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`can quartz be integrated in PitBull castbar?`
`20:52.45`	`Xuerian`	`0.o`
`20:52.47`	`Xuerian`	`wtf?`
`20:53.06`	`Xuerian`	`SHIFT_nismo: Pitbull has it's own castbar, and quartz is a entirely separate mod, what are you trying to get?`
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`20:53.24`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`the display of the latency red bar thingy`
`20:53.53`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`i like the cast bar in pitbull and dont want to us`
`20:54.09`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`use* another castbar`
`20:54.16`	`Xuerian`	`....`
`20:54.24`	`Xuerian`	`Ask ammo or ck.`
`20:54.27`	`sylvanaar`	`grrr`
`20:56.41`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`SHIFT_nismo: I know that's been discussed before, but im not sure if anything came of it`
`20:57.52`	`CIA-22`	`03nimbal * r36795 10Buffalo2/ (4 files):`
`20:57.52`	`CIA-22`	`Buffalo2:`
`20:57.52`	`CIA-22`	`- Waterfall is optional now, but without it, you won't have any ingame configuration whatsoever`
`20:57.52`	`CIA-22`	`- Stealth and Prowl shouldn't have applications any more`
`20:58.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`lol, that commit is great. "Well, you don't -need- waterfall, jsut don't expect to actually configure anything" ;)`
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`20:59.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`rofl`
`20:59.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's awesome`
`20:59.28`	`Ominous`	`heh`
`20:59.58`	`Ominous`	`god damn these fucking gms and want me gear back, ARGH`
`21:00.07`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`What's the difference between Waterfall and Dewdrop?`
`21:00.18`	`Ominous`	`waterfall is a window which opens up`
`21:00.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`One's a drop-down menu, one's a windowed gui`
`21:00.49`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Ah, I see.`
`21:01.00`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`For some reason I thought that waterfall and dewdrop were competitors or somethign`
`21:01.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`nah`
`21:01.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`complimentary really, dewdrop is still good for lots of things, waterfall's just an attempt to make more complex configurations less... painful.`
`21:02.43`	`Xuerian`	`Don't you just hate it when you get it in your head to install a mod, "Oh, I'm gonna try that!" ... Fire up WAU or svn, then forget what the mod was?`
`21:02.43`	`kergoth`	`Xuerian, i do that all the time, but not just with mods`
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`21:02.43`	`kergoth`	`open browser... where the fuck was i going?`
`21:02.43`	`Xuerian`	`Lol. That too.`
`21:02.43`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, waterfall is good, since you can't detach/pin dewdrop menus`
`21:02.43`	`Kaelten`	`kergoth, lol`
`21:02.45`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I do that all the time, with more or less everything.`
`21:02.45`	`durcyn`	`kergoth: porn`
`21:03.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`"Why did I walk into this room?" "Why did i open my fridge?" "What was I going to edit in this script?" I'm honestly amazed i make it through the day.`
`21:03.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so when you need to do several things many levels deep, or have to take your cursor away to see something, it doesn't go away`
`21:03.28`	`kergoth`	`NightHawkTheSane, lol`
`21:04.48`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Hm. I'm creating Dewdrop menus off of an AceOptions table - will I be able to just drop it into Waterfall and boom, config menu?`
`21:04.54`	`Ominous`	`kergoth: any more grouping problems`
`21:04.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`on an unrelated note, can anyone confirm if herb nodes changed location in the patch? should I be ditching my cart herb db?`
`21:04.56`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`If so, I may try it out tonight!`
`21:05.16`	`Ominous`	`Antiarc: yes`
`21:05.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Antiarc\|Work: theoretically, yes, ace options tables should be able to drop into waterfall`
`21:05.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Wewt!`
`21:05.30`	`kergoth`	`Ominous, havent tested since my report earlier, was afk`
`21:05.36`	`Ominous`	`k`
`21:05.36`	`Kaelten`	`I accidently enabled some sort of highlighting of the same word in eclipse`
`21:05.38`	`Kaelten`	`:s`
`21:05.46`	`kergoth`	`NightHawkTheSane, they dont seem to have changed drastically for me, most seem correct`
`21:06.04`	`Fisker-`	`WTF`
`21:06.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`kergoth: hmm, alright. That's good, my outland db was rather nice.`
`21:06.08`	`Fisker-`	`THEY NERFED MY PICNIC BASKET`
`21:06.15`	`Xuerian`	`0.o`
`21:06.16`	`sbu`	`uhm what?`
`21:06.17`	`deltron`	`http://www.dtguilds.com/images/landon.jpg`
`21:06.26`	`Fisker-`	`You can't use it inside anymore`
`21:06.29`	`Fisker-`	`i mean wtf`
`21:06.32`	`Fisker-`	`Was it gamebreaking?`
`21:06.41`	`Fisker-`	`"Oh god people are using picnic baskets ZOMG NERF"`
`21:06.43`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`is there a mod like DrDamage that works for all actions? kinda like combatstats`
`21:06.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yes! you -know- it's bad luck to open an umbrella inside.`
`21:06.45`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`duh.`
`21:07.30`	`Ominous`	`Fisker: ROFL`
`21:07.56`	`Fisker-`	`seriously it was the most hilarious ITEM EVER`
`21:08.07`	`Fisker-`	`cause you would pop it up at some first kill and be 1337 on the screenies`
`21:08.13`	`Fisker-`	`and now i can't use it in an instance anymore`
`21:08.14`	`Fisker-`	`weee`
`21:08.52`	`Saint-N`	`ya know you'd think if they wanted people to beta test longhorn they'd do a bit better job at driver support`
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`21:10.23`	`Saint-N`	`oh dear god`
`21:10.34`	`Saint-N`	`they have built in support for this crappy realtek 8139 i have`
`21:10.41`	`deltron`	`lol`
`21:10.43`	`Saint-N`	`but not the 905b or the tulip intel`
`21:11.07`	`Saint-N`	`thats just craziness`
`21:11.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`sdf`
`21:11.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`wiag'`
`21:11.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`woah.`
`21:13.17`	`omega_`	`noone found a solution to crash on exit under wine/cedega yet?`
`21:14.25`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ`
`21:15.00`	`Morghus`	`Heya cladhaire =)`
`21:15.05`	`cladhaire`	`heyas`
`21:15.06`	`durcyn`	`Saint-N: 509 or 905? the 509 should be supported out of the box`
`21:15.22`	`durcyn`	`or do i have my 3com models confused again, fuck it`
`21:15.43`	`deltron`	`isn't 509 the old isa card?`
`21:16.06`	`durcyn`	`eh, the 500s were the pcmcia series most recently, you might be right though`
`21:17.27`	`deltron`	`3c509's were the isa`
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`21:19.29`	`Saint-N`	`905`
`21:19.31`	`Saint-N`	`905b`
`21:19.43`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hyperChipmunk: you around?`
`21:19.47`	`Saint-N`	`and no longhorn doesnt support it`
`21:19.56`	`Saint-N`	`whats evne more awesome is that there is only one state for IE`
`21:20.05`	`Saint-N`	`perm blocked need to add sites to browse the internet setting`
`21:20.17`	`*** join/#wowace pub^^ (n=pub@cdubray.csbnet.se)`
`21:20.21`	`Saint-N`	`you cant change the security setting on "internet" to anything other than high`
`21:20.31`	`Saint-N`	`sure its a server, but seriously?`
`21:21.32`	`durcyn`	`which is why i only use windows to play games :o`
`21:22.05`	`jaete`	`quick question, anybody know about cartographer_quest*? they seem to not be updated for 2.1.0`
`21:22.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`jaete: cartographer_quests is working fine for me shrug`
`21:22.36`	`CIA-22`	`03gruk * r36796 10FuBar_FuzzyClockFu/ (FuBar_FuzzyClockFu.toc FuzzyClockFu.lua): FuBar_FuzzyClockFu: minor bugfix`
`21:23.10`	`kergoth`	`NightHawkTheSane, hmm, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6251.0`
`21:23.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`kergoth: i was talking about herbs, not minerals ;)`
`21:24.00`	`Stephmw`	`kergoth: off the top of your head, do you remember how much space kdrive binaries take? (or where I could find out?)`
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`21:24.30`	`kergoth`	`NightHawkTheSane, oh, right :)`
`21:24.34`	`kergoth`	`NightHawkTheSane, should be fine then`
`21:24.47`	`kergoth`	`Stephmw, not offhand, but i'm sure almost anyone in #oe could, many have devices that use it`
`21:24.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`kergoth: yeah, i figured, but it'd be typical of blizzard to change the herb nodes as well and not say anything`
`21:25.03`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`21:25.11`	`Shader`	`sry, anyone no if theres a new download up for Ag_unitframes, as well as Ace 2?`
`21:25.19`	`kergoth`	`you'd think it wouldnt be that difficult for them to document the shit they do`
`21:25.22`	`kergoth`	`scm tools ftw`
`21:25.37`	`CIA-22`	`03antiarc * r36797 10KTMCPUManager/KTMCPUManager.lua: KTMCPUManager: Performance improvements to UNIT_COMBAT handler.`
`21:25.56`	`Ominous`	`Shader: look for yourself`
`21:25.57`	`harldephin`	`Shader: what about just.. like downloading them from files.wowace.com ?`
`21:25.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`eh, i can understand some stuff being left out, it's a big difference from SCM logs to consumer version histories`
`21:26.12`	`Ominous`	`Shader: we dont know what revision etc you have and even if we did why should we check`
`21:26.50`	`Shader`	`sry new to this site, guess I'll go check`
`21:27.27`	`sbu`	`hmmm Antiarc\|Work`
`21:27.47`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`?`
`21:27.49`	`CIA-22`	`03draindraftxt * r36798 10FuBar_XPerlFu/FuBar_XPerlFu.toc: FuBar_XPerlFu: Updated .toc`
`21:27.52`	`kergoth`	`NightHawkTheSane, yes, but it isnt hard to review the scm log to check for missing items. can even add svn properties (or other appropriate metadata) to indicate which revisions/changesets have already been documented in the release notes`
`21:28.00`	`sbu`	`if unit is in combat, ktm will be disabled after 15s`
`21:28.08`	`kergoth`	`NightHawkTheSane, which is likely how i'd do it, myself`
`21:28.15`	`sbu`	`but wont be reenabled until someone drops + picks another target?`
`21:28.27`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`The 15 sec timer gets refreshed with each new qualifying combat event`
`21:28.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`kergoth: nod i'm not saying their process probably has flaws, just that it's not as obvious as directly going from scm->website ;)`
`21:28.44`	`sbu`	`Antiarc\|Work: when is UNIT_COMBAT triggered?`
`21:28.46`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`so its entirely possible for things to get missed due to human error`
`21:28.50`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`" Fired when an npc or player participates in combat and takes damage "`
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`21:29.08`	`sbu`	`ah hm`
`21:29.26`	`kergoth`	`NightHawkTheSane, aye. scm -> ChangeLog can be useful for internal releases, but for external you need something substantially more palitable(sp?)`
`21:29.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`palatable`
`21:29.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`:)`
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`21:29.48`	`CIA-22`	`03nevcairiel 072.1 * r36799 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: use new StateDriver`
`21:30.19`	`Ominous`	`nevcairiel: what is the advantage of this and is it usable yet`
`21:30.31`	`nevcairiel`	`yes it works`
`21:30.40`	`kergoth`	`NightHawkTheSane, hehe, thanks`
`21:30.48`	`nevcairiel`	`but shift/ctrl/alt page swapping is not re-implemented`
`21:30.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`<3 mac os x's built-in spellcheck :)`
`21:31.10`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
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`21:31.21`	`kergoth`	`xchat-gnome has that too, but the windows xchat doesnt :(`
`21:31.30`	`nevcairiel`	`Ominous: advantage .. well the code is much simpler now :)`
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`21:32.50`	`Arzach`	`heya`
`21:33.51`	`deltron`	`hullo`
`21:34.01`	`Arzach`	`anyone here that knows about oRA ?`
`21:34.20`	`deltron`	`what do you need to know?`
`21:34.29`	`Eej`	`is it me or did ratingbuster break`
`21:34.44`	`deltron`	`worked for me last night`
`21:34.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`working for me right now`
`21:34.54`	`Arzach`	`just if a feature is planned or it's me that I'm missing something`
`21:35.38`	`Arzach`	`aka, new Bliz raid interface have MTs and MAs, wondering if there's a way to sync oRA w them`
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`21:36.03`	`Arzach`	`I hate Blizz raid interface, it's friggin' HUGE and ugly`
`21:36.16`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`If it isn't in there already, I imagine it'll be in soon.`
`21:37.00`	`Arzach`	`I'd add myself, but I don't wanna study oRA code for 2 days and end up with an hack that will breack something`
`21:37.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`reaaally weird bug in Cartographer`
`21:37.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`I disabled the look'n'feel module`
`21:37.33`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`10 Arzach:01 sounds like it would be pretty simple`
`21:37.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`closed the map, opened the alternate map`
`21:37.41`	`Eej`	`i just updated it and my it no longer affects my tooltips :\|`
`21:37.45`	`Gnarfoz`	`and now when I switch to the normal map, it hides the entire UI o_O`
`21:37.58`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`10 Arzach:01 just need to find the event that gets fired when a mt or ma is added`
`21:38.11`	`Ominous`	`i dought that will happen as im sure setting a unit as mt will be protetted and tablet and dewdrop cant do protected stuff`
`21:39.33`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`:(`
`21:39.57`	`kergoth`	`Gnarfoz, hahah`
`21:40.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`really bugging out on me now`
`21:40.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`I think I'll reset it's SVs`
`21:40.48`	`deltron`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32617#24488`
`21:41.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`can't get rid of the instance map under zone map thingy, either`
`21:41.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`deltron: ahahaha`
`21:41.59`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`10deltron:01 Do the pets really attack critters?`
`21:42.10`	`Gnarfoz`	`I so have to get him for just that`
`21:42.12`	`deltron`	`i can't read what shift just said`
`21:42.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`do the other pets have something like that, too?`
`21:42.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`he's writing in teal and black -.-`
`21:42.31`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`i am?`
`21:42.33`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`wtf`
`21:42.39`	`deltron`	`yep`
`21:42.44`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`no wonder nobody answers me :P`
`21:42.49`	`deltron`	`lol`
`21:42.52`	`dacoffey`	`looks like its your tab completion`
`21:42.56`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`14test`
`21:42.58`	`haste`	`grey`
`21:43.02`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`test`
`21:43.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`lol, I can see your text, but i strip out all mirc colors.`
`21:43.16`	`deltron`	`lol`
`21:43.23`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`nevcairiel ? i got an issue, everytime after zoning the icons of my stance bar are glitched (width correctly, height x3`
`21:43.28`	`deltron`	`I guess I need to strip out mirc colors :P`
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`21:44.10`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`i use trillian so who knows what it does to my text`
`21:44.15`	`Ominous`	`i am getting wow crit errors on reload ui and login, anyone have an idea which addon/`
`21:44.16`	`Wixi`	`Any idea what the other little pets do?`
`21:44.24`	`deltron`	`the bird runs around`
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`21:44.52`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`the elephant stands on its back legs and trumpets`
`21:45.29`	`Wixi`	`ya, i mean like Willy beaming the rats..`
`21:45.37`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`brb`
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`21:46.04`	`a-stray-cat`	`the bird looks like its on crack.`
`21:46.12`	`a-stray-cat`	`im so glad i picked it ;O`
`21:46.14`	`nevcairiel`	`FtH\|Daemona: update`
`21:46.20`	`nevcairiel`	`i fixed that this afternoon`
`21:46.31`	`nevcairiel`	`i hope :D`
`21:48.12`	`Gnarfoz`	`hm`
`21:48.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`Cart is also not showing the pvp icons anymore`
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`21:51.04`	`harldephin`	`can i possibly hide InFlight's flight bar somehow ?`
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`21:51.14`	`NimbleRabit`	`did 2.1 make WoW lag for anybody?`
`21:51.25`	`harldephin`	`NimbleRabit: definitely yes`
`21:51.26`	`Kalman\|`	`Nimble: Only when I turn on CPU profiling.`
`21:52.11`	`harldephin`	`when i turn on CPU profiling, my wow goes like belching and cracking`
`21:52.47`	`NimbleRabit`	`no, mine is just always lagging`
`21:52.58`	`NimbleRabit`	`every 4 seconds or so I get a little "bump" of lag`
`21:52.58`	`harldephin`	`mine too`
`21:53.03`	`harldephin`	`yep`
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`21:54.55`	`kergoth`	`pfft, why isnt evl's cooldowns addon in his svn?`
`21:54.59`	`kergoth`	`silly people`
`21:55.03`	`evl`	`sorry`
`21:55.04`	`NimbleRabit`	`harldephin: it's seriously killing me in arena`
`21:55.07`	`evl`	`i didn't think it was mature enough`
`21:55.11`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`21:55.30`	`kergoth`	`if people expect svn trunk to not break occasionally, thats a problem with their expectations :)`
`21:56.08`	`harldephin`	`NimbleRabit: it bumps for me even more often than every 4 seconds, especially when in combat, so i tend to think that it's one of the add-ons causing this`
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`21:57.27`	`CIA-22`	`03funkydude * r36800 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua:`
`21:57.27`	`CIA-22`	`BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: 2.1 changes`
`21:57.27`	`CIA-22`	`- thanks to the new yells, no more need for syncing`
`21:57.27`	`CIA-22`	`- attempt at stopping the wierd 'arcane orb target' messages`
`21:58.07`	`harldephin`	`i might go on and check if it's lagging as well with no add-ons loaded, when the bumps turn into opening my ribcage while i might fail to heal myself because i don't see the not-ready-yet message soon enough`
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`21:59.28`	`NimbleRabit`	`yeah I think it's an addon too`
`21:59.45`	`pub^^`	`where does one turn off CPU profiling?`
`21:59.47`	`Thrae`	`I just learned the United States is not a democracy.`
`21:59.59`	`NimbleRabit`	`ti's a democratic republic`
`22:00.19`	`Thrae`	`NimbleRabit: No, it's a constitutional republic.`
`22:00.29`	`harldephin`	`-.-`
`22:00.29`	`NimbleRabit`	`what is the difference`
`22:00.33`	`Thrae`	`It looks like a democracy, but a republic and a democracy are different.`
`22:00.48`	`Thrae`	`Democracy is a very broad term, but it doesn't include republic.`
`22:01.06`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Correct!`
`22:01.39`	`NimbleRabit`	`I still think the proper term is democratic republic`
`22:01.50`	`Thrae`	`Someone brought it up in a debate, and to my chagrin, I found out he was right. But the debate had nothing to do with whether the US is a democracy or a republic, the debater was unskilled.`
`22:01.53`	`kergoth`	`http://gallery.kergoth.com/wow/currentui_20050524 <3 elkbuffbars on me and my pet both`
`22:02.03`	`kergoth`	`hmm, i should install gallery 2.0 instead of that ancient one`
`22:02.34`	`NeoTron`	`So the druid tank got chest off Magthridon last night. Now she has, with motw only, 27.3k armor, 13.5k health and 39.5% dodge in bear`
`22:02.37`	`Thrae`	`NimbleRabit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_republic <-- read the definition, you'll see it EXACTLY explains the US system of government (minus the corruption)`
`22:02.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NimbleRabit: if it were the term used, it would be inaccurate, democracy indicates rule by a majority, which is not the case in the us.`
`22:02.54`	`NeoTron`	`and she has yet to socket the chest piece`
`22:03.15`	`Thrae`	`NeoTron: And your guild STILL won't let her tank :D`
`22:03.15`	`NeoTron`	`he main tanked mag`
`22:03.15`	`NeoTron`	`she even`
`22:03.22`	`Thrae`	`Heh, I was kidding about all the guilds who refuse to let Ferals tank`
`22:03.48`	`NeoTron`	`once she get another piece of T4 she'll go up to almost 30k armor`
`22:04.05`	`NeoTron`	`just need 6000 more to hit the armor cap for l73 opponents`
`22:04.47`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`27k AC?!`
`22:04.51`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`What the HELL!?!`
`22:05.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well, they need some way to soak up every crushing blow :p`
`22:05.11`	`NeoTron`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Lunaaduro`
`22:05.14`	`NeoTron`	`look for yourself`
`22:05.17`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`That's a hell of a lot of AC.`
`22:05.20`	`NeoTron`	`this tiem she logged out as a bear`
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`22:06.00`	`NeoTron`	`and again her chest piece isn't socketed yet. so that'll add some more of something :)`
`22:06.33`	`NeoTron`	`yesterday ppl said you couldn't have the stats she has, which obviously you can since she has them`
`22:07.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i hope she's sticking solid stars in every socket. :P`
`22:08.26`	`NeoTron`	`she has this huge spreadsheet that she plugs variois things into`
`22:08.34`	`NeoTron`	`to get what works out best for mitigation purposes`
`22:08.38`	`Ominous`	`kergoth: is that locally hosted or professionally hosted`
`22:08.56`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`maybe it's different for druids and warriors, but imo, nothign works out better than +12 sta. :P`
`22:09.08`	`NeoTron`	`it's different`
`22:09.18`	`NeoTron`	`agility is for example really nice for druids`
`22:09.29`	`NeoTron`	`and you need to make sure you have the defense`
`22:09.46`	`NeoTron`	`since a lot of leather gear is low on defense`
`22:09.48`	`kergoth`	`Ominous, its an inexpensive virtual machine from a hosting company`
`22:09.50`	`NeoTron`	`or don't have it at all`
`22:09.52`	`NimbleRabit`	`Thrae: yeah guess your right. Just a technical term though, I had the gist of it at least lol`
`22:09.53`	`kergoth`	`gets the job done for my personal stuff`
`22:10.23`	`Thrae`	`NimbleRabit: Which is what I told the guy I was debating. Debating the definition of a word is stupid, I refuse to do it. But it's good to know these things anyway.`
`22:10.28`	`Ominous`	`kergoth: as i am keen to get something v similar up and was wondering who to go to`
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`22:11.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Thrae: debating the definition of a word isnt stupid, it's necessary for clear communication, otherwise you'd never be understood. :P`
`22:12.30`	`Thrae`	`NightHawkTheSane: But if the other person says "You meant foo" and doesn't explain their definition of what "foo" is, that's stupid. Or if someone says "I go by the oxford definition", and they're not British, then they're also stupid.`
`22:13.26`	`Thrae`	`NightHawkTheSane: It's called the Principle of Charity -- unless the use of the word can seriously change an argument or make it nonsensical, just assume they used something that makes sense.`
`22:13.35`	`Thrae`	`NightHawkTheSane: It's part of the fundementals of debate.`
`22:14.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Thrae: well, obviously, i'm just saying that arguing the definition of a word/phrase is not, in the abstract, stupid. there's times when it's absurd and silly, and when it's entirely relevant.`
`22:15.50`	`Thrae`	`NightHawkTheSane: All of the cases I have ever debated the definition of a word, it was stupid. Usually when people speak in absolutes, they really are speaking relatively, unless they are specific in speaking about absolutes.`
`22:16.05`	`Thrae`	`NightHawkTheSane: Right now, you are trying to argue a technicality, even if unintentional ;)`
`22:16.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Thrae: oh, it's fully intentional, arguing technicalities and semantics is fun for me :D`
`22:16.25`	`Ominous`	`if you register foo.com does that also count for ftp://foo.com?`
`22:16.50`	`Thrae`	`Ominous: Yes, ftp just tells the browser to connect on port 22, while http tells it to connect on port 80.`
`22:16.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`er`
`22:16.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yes`
`22:17.05`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ftp is a protocol, not an address`
`22:17.13`	`Ominous`	`who is a good cheap hosting company for personal hosting`
`22:17.31`	`NimbleRabit`	`god`
`22:17.39`	`NimbleRabit`	`heroic mech is NOT tankable by a warlock`
`22:17.43`	`NimbleRabit`	`don't listen to them if they try to tell you otherwise`
`22:17.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`god offers hosting packages? wow.`
`22:17.45`	`Thrae`	`Ominous: For what reason? There are lots of free hosters for specific causes.`
`22:17.57`	`hyperChipmunk`	`his technical support fees are outrageous though`
`22:18.03`	`hyperChipmunk`	`s/his/His/`
`22:18.05`	`Ominous`	`image hostong and ftp`
`22:18.14`	`Thrae`	`NightHawkTheSane: I don't get it?`
`22:18.14`	`Gagorian`	`NimbleRabit: No but heroic slave pens is soloable by a warlock`
`22:18.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hyperChipmunk: yeah, but you can't beat the service`
`22:18.23`	`NimbleRabit`	`Gagorian: yeah I know`
`22:18.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Thrae: don't get what?`
`22:18.32`	`Gagorian`	`I actually did it, it was pretty fun`
`22:18.35`	`Thrae`	`18:18 < NightHawkTheSane> god offers hosting packages? wow.`
`22:18.49`	`NimbleRabit`	`<Ominous> who is a good cheap hosting company for personal hosting`
`22:18.49`	`NimbleRabit`	`<NimbleRabit> god`
`22:18.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`^^`
`22:19.07`	`Thrae`	`Ah...`
`22:19.09`	`Gagorian`	`With two locks it would take about 1�-2h to clear entire heroic slave pens`
`22:19.49`	`Gagorian`	`Considering it's less people to share epacs lewt with it's not that bad :p`
`22:20.03`	`Gagorian`	`(well the void crystals)`
`22:20.19`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm sitting on a metric ton of void crystals`
`22:20.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm my kara group's enchanter`
`22:20.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`And my bags are drowning in them :(`
`22:20.42`	`Gagorian`	`Sell them and don't tell your group`
`22:20.54`	`Gagorian`	`then you got a hundred metric tons of gold`
`22:21.02`	`Thrae`	`Philosophical -- Does a Void Crystal truly exist? Or does it both not exist and exist at the same time?`
`22:21.18`	`NimbleRabit`	`Exists`
`22:21.32`	`Thrae`	`But it's a VOID Crystal. It's made from nothingness.`
`22:21.40`	`Thrae`	`It is a crystal of nothingness.`
`22:21.53`	`Gagorian`	`But maybe it just contains a void`
`22:21.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`it may contain nothingness, who said it's made of it`
`22:22.07`	`Thrae`	`Well, then it's poorly named.`
`22:22.14`	`Gagorian`	`Well crystallized void?`
`22:22.29`	`Gagorian`	`I.e. crystal wrapped around a void`
`22:22.32`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's not a made-of-void crystal :>`
`22:22.34`	`ven`	`Empty Crystal`
`22:22.35`	`Thrae`	`Yeah, Crystallized Void sounds better.`
`22:22.45`	`Thrae`	`Empty Crystal sounds even better ;)`
`22:23.07`	`Gagorian`	`I heard Fisker- only has three teeth`
`22:23.12`	`Thrae`	`"Void Crystal" makes one think it's made of void, just like "Red Crystal" would be Red, or "Ruby Crystal" is made of rubies.`
`22:23.42`	`Gagorian`	`Attempt at changing topic failed :(`
`22:23.42`	`hyperChipmunk`	`maybe it's just void-colored`
`22:23.50`	`Ominous`	`so anyone have any cheap companys for hosting or not?`
`22:23.58`	`CIA-22`	`03trh * r36801 10VanasKoS/modules/DistributedTracker.lua: VanasKoS: bugfix`
`22:24.06`	`kebinusan`	`Ominous: siteground is pretty cheap`
`22:24.08`	`NimbleRabit`	`are there mods out there that can create item links out of itemid or something? I'm getting annoyed at never being able to link the item I want`
`22:24.13`	`Gagorian`	`Ominous: I almost made up a site name cause you were asking so nicely :P`
`22:24.25`	`Ominous`	`:p`
`22:24.40`	`Gagorian`	`NimbleRabit: I use ludwig`
`22:24.56`	`Gagorian`	`Type [start of itemname]`
`22:24.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`huh`
`22:25.00`	`Gagorian`	`and it linkifies it`
`22:25.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Recount is pretty hot.`
`22:25.23`	`Gagorian`	`IT also uses game cache so no database`
`22:25.51`	`Gagorian`	`NimbleRabit: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5174`
`22:26.00`	`NimbleRabit`	`allright thanks`
`22:26.22`	`NimbleRabit`	`I've noticed I get better results with trade spam if it has links`
`22:26.30`	`NimbleRabit`	`people notice it more easily I gues`
`22:26.39`	`Gagorian`	`yeah`
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`22:27.06`	`Gagorian`	`The database contains the items you've seen 'recently' i.e. are in game cache`
`22:27.10`	`NimbleRabit`	`"more easily" sounds wrong`
`22:27.12`	`NimbleRabit`	`how should I have said that`
`22:27.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Recount is also a massive memory hog, though`
`22:27.30`	`Megalon`	`RatingBuster and Prat won't setup their fubar plugins`
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`22:27.42`	`Megalon`	`anyone else got that problem? :C`
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`22:27.46`	`Gagorian`	`NightHawkTheSane: Yar, lw is hardly any mem usage`
`22:28.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Gagorian: wha? i'm talking about recount, not ludwig, two entirely different mods. :P`
`22:28.07`	`Megalon`	`nor minimap, neither fubar icons`
`22:28.34`	`Tuller`	`recount is stupidly awesome, though :)`
`22:28.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Tuller: it totally is.`
`22:28.46`	`mexicaan`	`Hi, why does Ace2 has the most memory usage of all addons? (3.12 MB)`
`22:28.50`	`NimbleRabit`	`T_T`
`22:28.51`	`NimbleRabit`	`T_T`
`22:28.52`	`NimbleRabit`	`T_T`
`22:28.55`	`Gagorian`	`Oh, well, I thought it was some kind of item link mod! :D`
`22:29.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Gagorian: nah, its a damage meter mod, but uses GraphLib to make nifty pie charts!`
`22:29.16`	`Wixi`	`Was there a fix out for cartographers maps bug yet?`
`22:29.16`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`mexicaan: Because all the Ace2 libraries show up under the one Ace2 heading`
`22:29.17`	`NimbleRabit`	`mexicaan: because all your ace2 addons use those libraries so it's really fueling multiple addons`
`22:29.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So what you see there is actually all your libraries being measured as one mod`
`22:29.48`	`Gagorian`	`NightHawkTheSane: Yeah I get it now, but it seemed like you answered NimbleRabit`
`22:29.48`	`sbu`	`NightHawkTheSane: but it needs syncing :p`
`22:30.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`sbu: yeah, it needs a few things, but given how relatively young it is, its pretty neat`
`22:31.20`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`How do you guys feel about http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/combatstats/`
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`22:31.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Wixi: i just zoom out and close the map`
`22:31.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that fixes it`
`22:33.56`	`Bam__`	`I got a little design issue... I need several objects to register for some of the same events... how would you solve that using AceEvent?`
`22:34.09`	`Ominous`	`if you register any domain do you also register x.domain or not?`
`22:34.26`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Huh?`
`22:34.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Do you mean subdomains?`
`22:34.30`	`steev`	`what umm, what do i do to make my coords show back up with fubar_locationfu - or is there a new library`
`22:34.32`	`SHIFT_nismo`	`yes`
`22:34.34`	`Wixi`	`hyperChipmunk: does that include in instances?`
`22:34.36`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yes, once you own a domain, you own all subdomains.`
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`22:34.49`	`CIA-22`	`03nymbia * r36802 10Stitch-1.1/Stitch-1.1/Stitch-1.1.lua:`
`22:34.49`	`CIA-22`	`Stitch-1.1:`
`22:34.49`	`CIA-22`	`- Fix enchant link pattern for new links.`
`22:36.11`	`Gagorian`	`Bam__: Several events to the same function?`
`22:36.34`	`Wixi`	`ckknight: Boss loots part of Cartographer isn't working atm`
`22:36.48`	`CIA-22`	`03pneumatus * r36803 10ClassLoot/ (ClassLoot.toc ClassLoot_Data.lua):`
`22:36.48`	`CIA-22`	`ClassLoot:`
`22:36.48`	`CIA-22`	`- Update for 2.1`
`22:36.49`	`CIA-22`	`- Added missing paladin priorities for Outlands loot`
`22:36.49`	`Bam__`	`Gagorian: no the other way around... several objects each need to listen for events.. many of them are the same events`
`22:37.18`	`Bam__`	`Gagorian: problem is that AceEvent only allow me to register once for each event`
`22:38.05`	`Gagorian`	`Make a function that passes the event information around correctly?`
`22:38.46`	`Bam__`	`that's what I have done... but to make it more complicated the objects register and unregister dynamically over time`
`22:39.03`	`Bam__`	`so basically I feel I am doing the same thing as AceEvent`
`22:39.08`	`Bam__`	`which I dont like :/`
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`22:40.12`	`Wixi`	`Anyone with cartographer confirm the boss loots aren't working and just my cart isn't screwed`
`22:40.31`	`Kalman\|`	`Wixi: Define "not working".`
`22:40.51`	`Bam__`	`another solution would be to have one AceEvent instance for each object... I'm just not sure about the performance implications of that`
`22:41.17`	`Wixi`	`where you can usually click on a skull where the boss is in the instance to see the loots, the skulls aren't there`
`22:41.23`	`Thrae`	`Bam__: ckknight was suppose to do that, he may have already done it.`
`22:41.52`	`Bam__`	`Thrae: umm... allow registering an event more than once?`
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`22:41.56`	`Wixi`	`i may have not got the release, and missed it =/`
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`22:42.30`	`Bam__`	`hmm... I think addons like Pitbull must have the same problem.. perhaps I should check how they do it`
`22:42.30`	`Kalman\|`	`Wixi: Mine's working okay.`
`22:42.59`	`Wixi`	`ok i'll double check things then :) It doesn;t surprise me if i'm being completely stupid and missing something :)`
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`22:45.06`	`Xuerian`	`http://stage6.divx.com/Starcraft2/video/1248286/StarCraft2-CinematicTrailer`
`22:45.10`	`Xuerian`	`gah`
`22:45.14`	`Xuerian`	`Yeah that's the trailer if you haven't seen it.`
`22:47.54`	`CIA-22`	`03archarodim * r36804 10Decursive/Decursive.xml:`
`22:47.55`	`CIA-22`	`Decursive:`
`22:47.55`	`CIA-22`	`- Added an error message if Decursive is not loaded correctly (if Dcr is nil)`
`22:53.45`	`CIA-22`	`03ammo * r36805 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: Seriously Rusty Anchors`
`22:55.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so a package arrived at my house today...`
`22:55.38`	`hyperChipmunk`	`addressed to Mr. H.C. Munk`
`22:55.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Step one, cut a hole in teh box?`
`22:56.17`	`hyperChipmunk`	`wobin_: >8D`
`22:57.54`	`wobin_`	`^^`
`22:57.54`	`wallen`	`Does anyone else have his closetgnome resetting the Show Cloak/Show Helm when switching between sets?`
`22:57.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`is there something you're trying to tell us?`
`22:57.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`wobin sent me cooki--er, biscuits`
`22:57.55`	`vhaarr`	`wallen: yeah it does that now, edit a set and alt+click the head or cloak to hide it`
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`23:02.43`	`CIA-22`	`03bam * r36806 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`23:02.43`	`CIA-22`	`ItemPrice-1.0:`
`23:02.43`	`CIA-22`	`- Price updates`
`23:03.05`	`NimbleRabit`	`vhaarr: that needs to be put into the little popup box`
`23:03.09`	`NimbleRabit`	`I was confused as well lol`
`23:03.29`	`vhaarr`	`NimbleRabit: I know, haven't gotten around to it yet`
`23:03.58`	`vhaarr`	`I'll do it shortly`
`23:05.22`	`NimbleRabit`	`nice functionality though`
`23:08.19`	`CIA-22`	`03evilelvis * r36807 10eePanels/core.lua: eePanels - attempt to fix frame name bug`
`23:08.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`you know what's fun as all hell?`
`23:08.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`riding around on your epic mount with your orphan out, and laughing because you've got a mount and they're running their tiny little legs off`
`23:08.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`your mom?`
`23:08.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hyperChipmunk: that too, actually.`
`23:08.55`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, i did that`
`23:09.13`	`hyperChipmunk`	`in addition to giving his ice cream to another kid`
`23:09.43`	`wobin_`	`And I never have to go to Nagrand ever again =P`
`23:09.50`	`wobin_`	`(at least with that character)`
`23:10.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`um.. grats?`
`23:10.49`	`wobin_`	`It's a Cobalt Blue War Space Goat`
`23:11.00`	`hyperChipmunk`	`space goat? are you from Golgafrincham?`
`23:11.15`	`wobin_`	`Epic Talbuk =)`
`23:13.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`talbuk my ass, it's a space goat`
`23:13.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`some kind of mutant star-goat!`
`23:14.30`	`wobin_`	`http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/wobindwonderdog/Screenshot.png`
`23:14.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`e-PIC`
`23:17.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`wobin_: hawt`
`23:18.53`	`CIA-22`	`03totalpackage * r36808 10FuBar_Usage/ (FuBar_Usage.toc Usage.lua):`
`23:18.53`	`CIA-22`	`FuBar_Usage:`
`23:18.53`	`CIA-22`	`- no need to have a saved var for cpu profiling enabling`
`23:18.53`	`CIA-22`	`- use GetTime instead of time`
`23:18.53`	`CIA-22`	`- other minor tweaks`
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`23:22.17`	`Garoun`	`atually you'll still need to go to nagrand get your consortium gembags`
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`23:25.38`	`bigzero`	`is there any way to store the contents of vararg into a table?`
`23:26.03`	`hyperChipmunk`	`foo = {...}`
`23:26.18`	`bigzero`	`really? that works?`
`23:26.20`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yes`
`23:26.25`	`bigzero`	`ha, thanks`
`23:26.35`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`That creates a new table though`
`23:26.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So don't use it a lot.`
`23:27.38`	`a-stray-cat`	`what does ktm do to use so much cpu o.O`
`23:27.40`	`NeoTron`	`armory.wow doesn't handle the new 2.1 items it seems. the mag head reward ring doesn't show`
`23:27.47`	`a-stray-cat`	`im guessing every ace addon adds to Ace2's cpu% right?`
`23:27.54`	`NeoTron`	`a-stray-cat: constantly polling what you're wearing for example`
`23:28.10`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`KTM is poll-driven, rather than event-driven`
`23:28.17`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So it is constantly consuming CPU, even when nothing is happening`
`23:28.18`	`NeoTron`	`and it polls out of combat`
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`23:28.25`	`vhaarr`	`a-stray-cat: Yes.`
`23:28.28`	`NeoTron`	`when, of course, changes to equipment doesn't matter :)`
`23:28.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`ie, "screw the rest of you guys, I'm going to take whatever the hell kind of resources I want"`
`23:28.43`	`NeoTron`	`I lost quite a lot of respect for the guy`
`23:28.56`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`The responses on Curse are really disheartening`
`23:29.00`	`NeoTron`	`"if you're just standing around in IronForge why do you need the CPU anyway?" - so not the point`
`23:29.02`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yeah.`
`23:29.11`	`a-stray-cat`	`someone should write a slightly less cpu intensive version :/`
`23:29.13`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`"Because you share that addon time with many other addons"`
`23:29.16`	`a-stray-cat`	`but i guess, no one wants to :P`
`23:29.23`	`sbu`	`damn`
`23:29.24`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`a-stray-cat: Check out KTMCPUManager in about...4 hours. :P`
`23:29.27`	`vhaarr`	`a-stray-cat: Someone will.`
`23:29.37`	`sbu`	`still tainted raid/social frame:/`
`23:29.44`	`Garoun`	`grr, now to figure out why I"m getting a dewdrop2.0 error`
`23:29.55`	`Cryect`	`Antiarc\|Work: come on who cares about event driven addons! its all about checking ever frame`
`23:30.10`	`Cryect`	`what exactly does he check though?`
`23:30.17`	`NeoTron`	`what gear you're wearing`
`23:30.23`	`NeoTron`	`for thread reducing/increasing enchants and stuff`
`23:30.25`	`NeoTron`	`I think`
`23:30.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`lol, from my experience, if you're standing in IF, you need the CPU to draw all the character models`
`23:30.34`	`NeoTron`	`which is really stupid to poll for all the time reagrdless`
`23:30.55`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Cryect: I've been thinking of changing Sanity so that it scans your inventory every frame. I don't want to miss any bag changes. What do you think?`
`23:30.57`	`Diao`	`is there any script command or console command to force the blizzard built in eqcompare to always show`
`23:31.01`	`Diao`	`so you don't have to hold shift`
`23:31.02`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`That way, I can be sure that I never miss an item.`
`23:31.03`	`sbu`	`autobar taints raid frame, but something else also does... :/`
`23:31.04`	`Cryect`	`Antiarc\|Work: sounds good`
`23:31.05`	`NeoTron`	`OOC doesn't matter. IC you can't change a majority of the gear anyway`
`23:31.13`	`Cryect`	`Antiarc\|Work: I might try to slip one past you without notifying`
`23:31.21`	`NeoTron`	`mind you, baggins uses a lot of cpu as well`
`23:31.31`	`NeoTron`	`nearly as much as ktm`
`23:31.42`	`NeoTron`	`(when bags are closed)`
`23:31.47`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Cryect: Well, event-driven systems are unreliable like UDP, right?`
`23:31.52`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Sometimes you just don't get the events!`
`23:31.57`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So obviously you need to triple-check everything`
`23:31.58`	`Cryect`	`Now if people on gear changes were smart they would queue up their inventory checking so ItemRack and similar addons don't freeze me~!`
`23:32.02`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Also, :psyduck:`
`23:32.11`	`Cryect`	`I hate when they check everything for every single item change`
`23:32.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Scheduled event handling for the win.`
`23:32.36`	`NeoTron`	`Cryect: I once hacked enginventory to 1) not do anything if the inventory is closed, 2) queue up stuff`
`23:32.45`	`NeoTron`	`it was the top CPU user during raids before`
`23:32.58`	`NeoTron`	`every buff/debuff seemed to trigger a complete rescan. lots of fun`
`23:33.43`	`Cryect`	`heh bigbrother will do that if you are stupid enoguh to leave the buff checking window open :-p`
`23:34.01`	`Tuyk`	`Grr revered with Lower City and still no set piece drop`
`23:35.10`	`Snarrrr`	`hmm.`
`23:35.47`	`Snarrrr`	`tried starting WUU which windows couldn't find`
`23:36.05`	`Snarrrr`	`and then my anti-virus program stated that it had found a virus, somethingsomething-keylogger.`
`23:36.51`	`Killmore`	`Antiarc\|Work: I'm using your "testing" KTMCpu addon and KTM now takes 0.01% :P`
`23:36.56`	`Snarrrr`	`it deleted WUU.exe`
`23:37.21`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Killmore: I'd be more concerned about KTM not kicking on at the right times`
`23:37.23`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`That's what needs testing`
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`23:37.32`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`The kicking off I expect to work just fine :)`
`23:37.47`	`Snarrrr`	`ha seems i wasn't the only one :p`
`23:37.47`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Also, taking votes: Do I leave the name, or do I come up with something snappy?`
`23:38.03`	`a-stray-cat`	`curse my unstable connection`
`23:38.05`	`vhaarr`	`leave the name`
`23:38.07`	`Diao`	`:(`
`23:38.09`	`Diao`	`no answer`
`23:38.16`	`sbu`	`no addon war? :/`
`23:38.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`if you do the latter, add a description of what exactly it does, to the TOC notes :P`
`23:38.38`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I was thinking like KTMDegreedifier or something`
`23:38.50`	`Cryect`	`heh`
`23:39.10`	`vhaarr`	`UnkencofiedKTM`
`23:39.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`KTMIsAPieceofShitSoIWroteThisToMakeItSuckMarginalyLess`
`23:39.13`	`Gnarfoz`	`but still, KLHTM will chew up your cpu when it does what it's actually supposed to do, right?`
`23:39.13`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I'm getting stuff bitching about not being able to find Dewdrop-2.0`
`23:39.27`	`Diao`	`so nobody knows if there's a way to force blizzard's eqcompare to show without holding down shift?`
`23:39.28`	`Cryect`	`Unfortunately Gnarfoz`
`23:39.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`Diao: I wish it would show everywhere EQCompare did, at all`
`23:39.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`doesn't even do that :\`
`23:40.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`is there some replacement, yet? :>`
`23:40.23`	`Diao`	`;(`
`23:41.30`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Gnarfoz: Yes, it will. But at least it will be doing useful things as it eats your megahurtz.`
`23:42.08`	`Gnarfoz`	`they haev been stoled, my megahurtz :<`
`23:42.53`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`My KTMs, let me show you them.`
`23:43.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`do not want.`
`23:46.50`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`You know what's funny?`
`23:46.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`KTM is pulling developer aggro.`
`23:46.55`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`:V`
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`23:48.43`	`Diao`	`lol`
`23:49.44`	`kebinusan`	`KTM takes the thinking out of dps even more than it already is`
`23:49.49`	`kebinusan`	`I honestly dislike it`
`23:49.51`	`Awaa`	`^^ Quote of the day :D`
`23:51.05`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Eh. There will always be two sides at war over threat meters.`
`23:51.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`(The non-meter-using side usually pulls aggro and dies, though, making the meter-users winners by default)`
`23:51.35`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`And now, I run away home. :D`
`23:51.38`	`kebinusan`	`heheh`
`23:52.56`	`kebinusan`	`Every DPS class has an active threat reduction ability, invisibility, feint/vanish, feign death, use these abilities preemptively you not when Banzai goes 'Aggro'`
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`23:53.10`	`Diao`	`hey hey now`
`23:53.17`	`Diao`	`what about fury warriors :(`
`23:53.34`	`kebinusan`	`cleave instead of heroic, I promise you wont have aggro probs`
`23:53.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`kebinusan: shamans dont, warriors don't`
`23:53.49`	`Keias`	`Clearly, you haven't seen some of our old tanks.`
`23:54.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that's not an "active threat reduction" ability. the threat is just slower than HS.`
`23:54.24`	`kebinusan`	`NightHawkTheSane: hybrids dont have threat reduction abilities`
`23:54.27`	`Diao`	`cleave instead of heroic? wtf lol`
`23:54.34`	`kebinusan`	`guess you werent meant to dps like other classes :-)`
`23:54.34`	`Diao`	`you know fury warriors are always riding the agro line right?`
`23:54.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`kebinusan: you said 'every dps class'. :P`
`23:54.45`	`kebinusan`	`hybrids arent dps classes`
`23:54.47`	`sbu`	`Diao: DW shamans :o`
`23:54.48`	`kebinusan`	`they are hybrids`
`23:55.22`	`Tuyk`	`imo fury warriors stay clear of cleave and HS completely`
`23:55.44`	`Diao`	`then your rage bar is full`
`23:55.50`	`Tuyk`	`hamstring spam`
`23:55.54`	`Diao`	`..`
`23:55.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hehe`
`23:55.58`	`Diao`	`only with a wf totem`
`23:55.58`	`Tuyk`	`to keep flurry up`
`23:55.59`	`Keias`	`spamstring won't dump rage fast enough`
`23:56.04`	`Diao`	`it doesn't even dump rage`
`23:56.07`	`Diao`	`because when wf procs`
`23:56.09`	`Diao`	`you get even more rage`
`23:56.12`	`Tuyk`	`works well enough for me`
`23:56.29`	`Diao`	`slamspam maybe`
`23:56.34`	`Diao`	`with imp slam`
`23:56.36`	`Diao`	`to rage dump`
`23:56.59`	`Tuyk`	`spamming hamstring works, 10 rage and is instant, unlike HS and cleave`
`23:57.07`	`Diao`	`eh`
`23:57.11`	`Diao`	`doesn't burn enough rage generally`
`23:57.20`	`Keias`	`HS and Cleave work great for dumping because they're on next attack`
`23:57.24`	`Galka`	`Would anyone know of an addon that simply hides the Blizzard buff/debuff frames so that I could only have Pitbull's Auras displaying them?`
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`23:57.43`	`Diao`	`buffalo with all filters disabled?`
`23:57.44`	`Diao`	`or something`
`23:57.59`	`pacroon`	`Hi guys - is there some official bug about profile management out?`
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`23:58.03`	`Tuyk`	`i just in habit of spamming them, as i know if i use HS i'll get less dps out in the long run than i would with hs as the extra agro`
`23:58.46`	`Diao`	`if you aren't right behind the MT on threat or OT in some cases`
`23:58.50`	`Diao`	`then you aren't dpsing properly`
`23:58.51`	`Diao`	`:P`
`23:59.14`	`Tuyk`	`ya i'm always right behond, but the HS will put me over if i get a stream of crits`
`23:59.21`	`Tuyk`	`damnmy typing is bad tonight lol`

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