IRC log for #wowace on 20070523

00:00.03XuerianOr well, I wouldn't.
00:00.08vhaarrI wouldn't either.
00:00.28Gnarfozshould have phrased the question in a way that I'd understand the damn answer xD
00:00.28break19doesnt make sense to me, to include em
00:00.36Gnarfozyou wouldn't... include them
00:00.42Gnarfozwas what you were saying, right? :D
00:00.45Xuerianyes
00:00.48NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: don't include anything that your dependancy includes by default
00:00.48Gnarfozaye :>
00:00.53XuerianThere's no point double-depping
00:01.16break19yuck. I hate when my friends come over and double-dep with the ruffles
00:01.18ballmenaceIn my addon Im currently making I use /addon cmd <some string>. But my addon will not use multiple commands. So how do I make it /addon <some string>. Could someone point me in the right direction ?
00:01.21Gnarfozyay me, don't have to learn how to do externals, then :D
00:01.39break19noo! rat bastard!
00:02.02NightHawkTheSaneman, fuck you, now i want chips and dip.
00:02.06break19lol
00:02.29XuerianYou're all insane.
00:02.33Xuerian.... Which is why I feel so at home.
00:02.35cynyrrofl
00:02.41NimbleRabitservers...still...down
00:02.41NightHawkTheSanei am totally not insane.
00:02.45NightHawkTheSane<-- see? SANE.
00:02.55NightHawkTheSaneyou think that labels there for irony? :P
00:03.03Xuerian... Yeah :D
00:03.08NightHawkTheSane... yeah, probaly is. >.>
00:03.15Xuerian:3
00:03.29break19heh
00:03.34Gnarfozballmenace: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_a_Slash_Command
00:03.51ballmenacethx
00:04.02break19crys
00:04.18break19im gonna have to disable pitbull until the target frame thing is fixed
00:04.28break19and after using it for so long, I'm gonna miss it
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00:06.12NimbleRabitpitbull is working fine for me
00:06.13NimbleRabitwhat's up
00:07.10cynyrthe target frame in combat i hear
00:07.22NimbleRabitHmm, I was doing arena without problems
00:07.30break19NimbleRabit: yea.. target frame wont show up if you have no target and enter combat, then target
00:07.34cynyrwere you incombat before picking a target?
00:07.48NimbleRabitbreak19: oh.  Hmm that situation hasn't and probably won't ever come up for me
00:08.01XuerianRaider's nightmare
00:08.07break19comes up all the time for me.. :)
00:08.10XuerianWhat about focus?
00:08.44cynyr<PROTECTED>
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00:08.48hypetechhmmmmmm
00:08.50break19Xuerian: dunno. i dont use focus frames
00:08.55stavmarfocus macros are not working at all for me right now I have a focus fear and focus banish
00:09.11hypetechI am very curious wtf happened with bartender3....I'm not even gonna start on how b0rked my other mods are
00:09.21NeeblerEgbert is awesome
00:09.24hypetechand is it just me or does the entire UI look much much sharper and cleaner now?
00:09.41break19hypetech: bartender reset to the default profile.
00:09.43NimbleRabithypetech: bt3 was at 110% scaling for me for some reason
00:09.50Sparhawkedoes anyone know why wowaceupdated keeps extracting the subfolders into the main addons folder?
00:09.55hypetechbt3 was back to the settings I had before xpac to me
00:10.03XuerianSparhawke: It's a feature.
00:10.03break19hypetech: just reload the profile.
00:10.04Diaobecause it's supposed to Sparhawke?
00:10.07cynyrhypetech: like? the lack of paging in combat?
00:10.09kenlyricSparhawke: because those arn't subfolders
00:10.10hypetech12«11break1912» ty
00:10.12kenlyricthose are plugins.
00:10.37Sparhawkeso, how do I stop it from doing that. None of my addons work when they don't have their subfolders!
00:10.39kenlyricNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
00:10.41hypetechI must say though, bt3 looks amazing now for some reason. The buttons seem to be much better looking along with a lot of other UI features
00:10.44NimbleRabitXuerian: http://www.roflcat.com/dont-worry-im-from-tech-suppoert.php
00:10.49kenlyricSparhawke: of course they do.
00:11.03SparhawkeNo, I keep getting errors
00:11.05hypetechanybody know what happened with eePanels, simpleMiniMap, battlechat, etc. ? lol
00:11.12XuerianNimbleRabit: Hehehe.
00:11.19hypetecho, and prat and clearfont2 :(
00:11.20Sparhawkewhen the subfolders are extracted to the main addons folder
00:11.21kenlyricthen you've got something wrong, like not loading out of date addons
00:11.22Xuerianhypetech: What happened?
00:11.33break19prat and clearfont all work fine for me
00:11.41kenlyricall of my mods but sanity are working.
00:11.44Kirkburn|afkEr, you didn't tick load out of date addons? :P
00:11.44hyperChipmunkhypetech: check the tags
00:12.01SparhawkeI clicked load out od ate addons
00:12.04hypetech12«11Xuerian12» basically nothing is working anymore. eepanels are gone, I have the default map back for some reason, and some fubar mods are missing in action
00:12.07Sparhawkeof date
00:12.07hypetechooooooooo
00:12.09hypetechgot it
00:12.11hypetechty guys :)
00:12.40hyperChipmunkthe colorssss...they HURTS us, precious!
00:12.45XuerianXD
00:12.52break19uh oh. bartender isnt flipping when leaving stealth
00:13.11NimbleRabitonce again, another thing that works perfectly fine for me
00:13.12hyperChipmunkbreak19: someone mentioned an autobar conflict
00:13.13kenlyricuh oh!
00:13.28break19hyperChipmunk: well damn, I love my autobar
00:13.30cynyrbreak19: has been working for me with an update as of about an hour ago
00:13.31Xuerianhypetech: While I enjoy the cries of agony from the hardcore folks, you might want to disable those colored pings :P. Anyhow. Do you have load out of date addons set? No clue on the default profiles
00:14.22hyperChipmunkbreak19: sux to be ye
00:15.16hyperChipmunkstrange are the flows of time through blizzard
00:15.39hyperChipmunkserver reset in 15:00 results in shutdown in 5
00:15.55cynyrlol mine should have been back up about 20 minutes ago
00:15.56hyperChipmunkrealm will be down for 15 minutes after restart results in 30
00:16.00Kaydeethreemeh. that's hardcoded into the shutdown procedure
00:16.13KaydeethreeI've seen 15-5-30s before
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00:16.21kenlyricman, this reminds me of the 1.9 patch.
00:16.22Kaydeethreein the span of ~3s or so
00:16.36MaranathaTXmine just went offline after sitting at character login for 30 minutes
00:16.52hyperChipmunki just find it amusing that they manage to violate the estimate in both directions with a single operation
00:16.54kenlyricwe were about halfway through MC, learning some later boss, and the server kept resetting after we killed garr.
00:17.00Xuerianlol.
00:17.06bigzerowoot, so I'm not the only one having problems logging in
00:17.14Kaydeethreeeveryone is
00:17.21nymbiathere is no 'logging in'
00:17.25nymbiait's patch day!
00:17.31XuerianOoh. AD made it up
00:18.07XuerianWhile.... about 40 others are down that weren't <.<
00:18.09KaydeethreeI've got 150g down so far on not being able to play til Thursday. I'm probably gonna bump it to 300 in half an hour or so
00:18.12MaranathaTXwe are suppossed to start Gruul in 10 minutes...any bets as to whether that will happen tonight : )
00:18.12NeoTronis there an ace updated for macos X btw?
00:18.26kenlyricraid hogger.
00:18.27Gnarfozhrm
00:18.33break19neotron: jwowupdater
00:18.35kenlyricone of the guilds did that when the servers were hosed after 1.11
00:18.48NeoTronbreak19: got it, thanks
00:18.51Kaydeethreewe raided orgrimmar on 1.11
00:19.00kenlyricapparently the trick in a hogger raid is to make him live as long as possible :)
00:19.03deltronhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackhand&n=Padrick <-- nice
00:19.05Kaydeethreewhich probably caused some of the problems
00:19.08Gnarfozanyone use SmartSVN?
00:19.17kenlyricKaydeethree: kargath sucked something fierce in 1.11 :)
00:19.20break19Kaydeethree: I just <gasp> read some books that week.
00:19.23kenlyricand 1.10, 1.9 and 1.8 too.
00:19.32kergothhmm, is antagonist still useful? tryig to trim my set
00:19.38loonacyIs WAU supposed to be reporting "no public versions" for every mod?
00:19.39kergothsuppose itd still be useful for its cooldown type stuff
00:19.54kenlyricloonacy, you did upgrade, right?
00:20.15kenlyricSparhawke: you did update WAU to 1.8, right?
00:20.38Gnarfozkenlyric: better alias that sentence to something for the next few days :D
00:20.38NeoTronkenlyric: I'd suspect the answer to that is "no"
00:20.42break19ok, bartender is flipping now, that i've disabled autobar.
00:20.55break19i wonder if thats also why pitbull target frame is nutso?
00:20.56NeoTrondeltron: yeah what's wrong with 2000 int from a flask? seems balanced!
00:20.59stavmarDamn Alleria!
00:20.59hyperChipmunkdid it totally uppercut your unit frames? that's normal
00:21.01Sparhawkeyes I did Kenlyric
00:21.26Sparhawkebut ever since afew version ago, every mod that has its subfolders thrown into the main folder under modname_subfolder wont work
00:21.27kenlyric2000 int is like 8 casts.
00:21.29kenlyricmeh.
00:21.29hyperChipmunkyou shouldn't have opened windows +)
00:21.34kenlyric75mp5, that's where the sex was.
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00:22.46KaydeethreeI'm just screwing around on vent since I can't even log in to the forums
00:22.51hypetechhmm
00:22.59break19wait a minute.. did fizzwidget go ace?
00:22.59nymbiamy guild's all playing starcraft lol
00:23.02hypetecheither bt3 is all kinds of bugged, or something is still screwy on my server
00:23.11Kaydeethreeget the latest update to bt3
00:23.16Kaydeethreethere's been a few released today iirc
00:23.20Xueriannymbia: I find a shocking amount of people playing sc the last couple days :p
00:23.38break19omg
00:23.45break19fizzwidget went ace2
00:23.56break19gfw trackmenu is now an ace2 mod
00:23.59Xuerian0.o
00:24.11XuerianSay it ain't so!
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00:24.30break19yep. and he included externals.. poser..
00:24.31break19heh
00:25.00Xuerianheheh.
00:25.01Kaydeethreelmao... "forums now under maintenence"
00:25.14Kaydeethreeguess that's one way to keep it from melting
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00:26.16break19Xuerian: it's the only mod of his, I've seen that does...
00:26.16*** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ
00:26.27break19maybe we can get him to make a fubar module for trackmenu :)
00:26.33CIA-2303gnarfoz * r36498 10Tattle_LFM/: Tattle_LFM: Created directory for Tattle_LFM
00:26.33hypetechwhat does trackmenu do?
00:26.45Xuerianbreak19: Rephrasal for 400
00:26.58Kaeltendid anyone ever test out one bag?
00:27.03break19Xuerian: maybe someone else can make a fubar module for trackmenu :)
00:27.13hypetechkaelten, I suppose I'm about to :p
00:27.26KaeltenI'm still only 58% done with the patch
00:27.31hypetechwas so worried about bt3, didn't bother opening my bag
00:27.41break19testing now, kael.. so far no probs
00:27.53Kaeltencool
00:28.05Birdemani[FH]so
00:28.11Birdemani[FH]pretty much delete spam sentry?
00:28.13Kaeltenso far I've been extremely happy with the codebase, 5 months and very minor changes/fixes
00:28.28maiathis might sound like a strange question, but does anyone have experience with programming Ruby on Rails?
00:28.55Birdemani[FH]ive hired a bunch that know how to use it if that helps :p
00:29.15bigzerowhat's the ace2 lib for analyzing tooltips? or a lib that would allow to determine if item is soulbound
00:29.21vhaarrGratuity
00:29.25Kaydeethreeand down goes the auth server
00:29.26maiaBirdemani[FH]: well, what I'm trying to figure out is how to do something like AceEvent does in Rails.
00:29.39Birdemani[FH]way over my head maia
00:29.43break19Kaelten: only 1 problem I've noticed, and it's onebank
00:29.47maiain other words a mixin (maybe it's even in the core and I don't know about it) that allows registering and triggering events
00:29.51Kaeltenwhats up with onebank?
00:29.52Birdemani[FH]im more like middle management with my tech knowledge these days
00:29.54break19Kaelten: and it existed pre-2.1
00:29.58Kaeltenhrm
00:30.00Kaeltenwhats up?
00:30.00bigzerovhaarr, ty
00:30.02break19its not showing my bank frame
00:30.12Kaeltenhuh?
00:30.15maiaBirdemani[FH]: thanks anyway.
00:30.16break19its showing the default one, and it shows as loaded, in acp
00:30.18Kaeltenok that will delay the release of it
00:30.33Kaelteni didn't know there was an issue with onebank
00:30.36KaeltenI've been out of touch though
00:30.44break19and /onebank just returns the unknown command line
00:31.00Kaeltenhrm might be an issue with my lod hook
00:31.02break19i only noticed since a week or so ago myself..
00:31.07Kaeltenit was iffy when I first coded it
00:31.25kergothmjc, you in fear too nowadays?
00:31.56vhaarrKaelten: OneBag doesn't interact properly with OpenAllBags(true), I think.
00:32.16Kaeltenvhaarr: hrm
00:32.16vhaarrKaelten: /script OpenAllBags(true) or (1) is supposed to force all bags open, regardless of previous state.
00:32.20vhaarrOneBag toggles them.
00:32.31KaeltenI probably ignore something somewhere
00:33.01vhaarrKaelten: Time to make your first OneBag commit in a while :P
00:33.16Kaeltenlol
00:33.18Kaeltenya its past do
00:33.27Kaeltenmaybe I'll add some more features at the same time
00:33.31Kaeltenor at least comment the code or something
00:33.39NeoTronso did blizzard do something that breaks custom unit frames in 2.1?
00:33.46vhaarrNeoTron: yes
00:33.52XuerianNeoTron: It wasn't broken
00:33.54vhaarrKaelten: well this would be a simple fix, I imagine
00:33.55Xuerianso they fixed it
00:34.13vhaarrKaelten: I'd appreciate it if you just fixed this asap, and then go on with other features
00:34.37vhaarrit breaks ClosetGnome for OneBag users, you see
00:34.41NeoTronvhaarr: figures. x-perl doesn't have an update yet
00:35.09Kaeltenlol
00:35.24break19what is the least cpu-intensive text-to-link addon.. anyone have any idea? or dont really know?
00:35.31CIA-2303gnarfoz * r36499 10Tattle_LFM/ (Tattle_LFM.toc lfm.lua): Tattle_LFM - Initial commit. Should display Tattle data for players in the LFM frame's tooltip. Report if stuff breaks.
00:35.39Gnarfozthere :>
00:36.06Xuerianok, what the hell is tattle anyway
00:36.52Kaeltenbreak19 kcis is going to be pretty good once I finish updating aceTab
00:37.05Xuerianneeevermind.
00:37.07Gnarfozdatamined information from the armory: Arena team names, their members, their ratings, and the team member's talent point distributions, Xuerian
00:37.09break19kci2?
00:37.20XuerianGnarfoz: ah
00:37.34GnarfozTattle itself provides a basic "put this stuff in the mouseover tooltip" functionality :)
00:37.45break19is tabletlib a known leaker?
00:37.55CIA-2303thekarn * r36500 10/branches/SanityItemCache/ (3 files):
00:37.55CIA-23SanityItemCache: Hmm ... might have fixed a few things.
00:37.55CIA-23~whalenametheft Antiarc
00:38.01purlACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) kicks Antiarc's ass and steals his/her name. The now anonymous target weeps.
00:38.01Kaeltenbreak19: yep
00:38.15break19Kaelten: yep to which question? lol
00:38.22vhaarrIt doesn't leak, it just uses lots of CPU and memory.
00:38.27hypetechlol
00:38.46GnarfozI'm just using talent specs in that one, so I don't have to bother asking that (quite likely) dense ... paladin (pick your favorite class ;)) if he can heal, tank or pretend to DPS
00:38.59mjckergoth: I wish
00:39.15mjckergoth: I applied a couple weeks ago
00:39.19kergothah
00:39.21Antiar1Wait, what?
00:39.21kergothwhere you at currently?
00:39.23Antiar1Oh.
00:39.34kergothour guild on arathor went boom, evil and i dunno what wer'e doing now
00:39.35kergothheh
00:39.39mjcsanc again... spent some time in visions of the undead
00:39.56Kaeltenoooh we're in the pre europe lull
00:40.00mjcI want in fear or indomitable maybe, diode suggested them
00:40.09TheKarn20mins left of coding
00:40.10Kaeltenkci2
00:40.10TheKarn:(
00:40.19break19wow
00:40.21break19ok
00:40.36break19disabling autobar makes the target frame work again
00:40.45break19so autobar is tainting something...
00:41.01mjcinstall one of the taint checkers
00:41.03Wixiyay US servers are down for another couple of hours
00:41.11kenlyrichurrah!
00:41.11Birdemani[FH]they are?
00:41.12AntiarcBleh!
00:41.13break19wixi.. I'm on a US server.
00:41.16AntiarcI'm stuck at connecting now
00:41.17TheKarnlol EU shouldnt have that hotfix
00:41.18ThorgardRut roh.
00:41.18break19and logged in right now
00:41.22Birdemani[FH]some US servers are up
00:41.23ThorgardIs it borken?
00:41.28Kaeltenwow the server has actually had as much stress on it if not more than during last december
00:41.30kenlyricbreak19: the ones that are still down are staying down.
00:41.34kenlyricyay vindication!
00:41.43ThorgardCan't even log in. Nuts.
00:41.45break19mine's already gone down and come back
00:41.59Birdemani[FH]so, spam sentry worth keeping now?
00:42.07break19my guess is, the login server just cant handle the load of everyone trying to log in at once
00:42.11WixiLatest news is "Due to complications during rolling restarts not all the realms have come back up as expected and we will be working to get them up as soon as possible over the next couple of hours"
00:42.40mjcI wanted to play ;(
00:43.05TheKarni want an enUS account/client to play on while i wait for enEU to come back up
00:43.10TheKarnenGB*
00:43.14mjcenUS is downish too
00:43.20loonacyVery downish.
00:43.31TheKarnat least enGB should only be down the once
00:43.48TecnoBratTheKarn, should yea
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00:43.49TheKarnunless the enUS team fail at communication
00:43.58TecnoBratthey may extend it to apply the hotfix tho
00:44.01TheKarn... "wouldnt be the first time with americans..."
00:44.18CIA-2303kebinusan * r36501 10Tattle/ (15 files in 15 dirs): Tattle: Weekly scripted update of US Data
00:44.26mjckeb ftw
00:44.29Reality~flee
00:44.39purlACTION runs away screaming
00:44.40hyperChipmunkwe don't wanna talk to you; there's a difference
00:44.42break19thekarn: darrrr what is cuh moon ick ay shun
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00:45.06TheKarn~emulate hyperChipmunk
00:45.10purlACTION chitters.
00:45.13TheKarn~emulate sedatedChipmunk
00:45.15purlACTION chitters drowsily.
00:45.24RealityLOL
00:45.26NimbleRabitahhh
00:45.27Realitynice
00:45.31NimbleRabitstill....down...
00:45.34AntiarcArgh!
00:45.41TheKarnlol at Antiarc
00:45.42AntiarcMy wife was just able to log in, and I'm stuck at connecting
00:45.42CIA-2303rabbit * r36502 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/Modules/Druid.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Druid: Added Flight Form and Swift Flight Form.
00:45.45break19one of my guildies just signed in, on my US server
00:45.47TheKarnhahahaha
00:45.53Realityi love you vhaarr
00:45.59Realitythanks for that fix <3
00:46.03AntiarcThis is not fair >:(
00:46.06vhaarrReality: please test it
00:46.15Realityi shall, as soon as my realm comes up
00:46.22Realityi got epic form this afternoon :O
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00:46.42Kaydeethreedamn, that was fast
00:46.55TheKarn<Antiarc> Yay, 20 more minutes then I go home and hack on Sanity :D
00:46.58Realityi had done it on the ptr, no reason to stop and smell the roses
00:46.58TheKarnand now he cant log in
00:47.04TheKarn/giggle
00:47.16Antiarc~lart TheKarn
00:47.16purlbeats the living hamstercrap out of TheKarn
00:47.32kenlyricAntiarc, I'll help by telling you sanity is throwing errors :)
00:47.34Kaelten~lart thekarn
00:47.34purlcalls thekarn on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home
00:47.39break19some more guildies got in...
00:47.48TheKarnkenlyric, are you running the latest?
00:47.51Reality~xuerian
00:47.52purlACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random.
00:47.53AntiarcOoh!
00:47.54kenlyricyeah.
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00:47.56AntiarcI got to authenticating!
00:48.01AntiarcHandshaking!
00:48.02Realityspeak of the devil
00:48.10AntiarcShake hands faste!
00:48.11TheKarni.e. the branch of Sanity2 and SanityItemCache?
00:48.13kenlyricthat's when the real pain begins.
00:48.18hyperChipmunki got to server select
00:48.26kenlyricTheKarn: no, whatever wau gives me.
00:48.28hyperChipmunkbut mine's offline
00:48.35TheKarnjust Sanity2 then
00:48.39Antiarckenlyric: The trunk is out of date
00:48.46TheKarnvery.
00:48.46AntiarcIt'll be merged in soonish
00:48.49TheKarnbut the branch is broken
00:48.55TheKarnyou can thank me for that
00:48.57AntiarcNOOOO
00:49.02AntiarcDisconnected at handshaking.
00:49.20Realityowned owned owned owned owned
00:49.21TheKarnit was working great till i decided the lack of development was boring and started making antiarc break things.
00:49.31break19btw.. who's in the guild that planned to run stuff on patch day??
00:49.47Reality<---
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00:49.53Realitywe're in vent crying now
00:49.58ThorgardYarr, Bartender3-3.1 r36443\Bartender3_BarClass.lua:403: attempt to index local 'button' (a nil value)
00:50.00AntiarcHahah
00:50.02Birdemani[FH]a lot of hard core guilds do
00:50.05break19Reality: tell your GM some asshole on irc called him a dumbass
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00:50.15Realityhaha
00:50.21hypetechwhen did atlasloot get on wowace?
00:50.21Gnarfozkebinusan: that scripted update up there, is it entirely scripted? or just parts of it? :)
00:50.26break19what kinda idiot schedules raids on patch day? lol
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00:50.53kenlyricbreak19: the kind that haven't seen a problem since 1.11.
00:51.14kenlyricnot a "broken until 10pm" problem, at least.
00:51.45kenlyricback before, when even minor patches would hork the server for hours and hours, of course no one did.
00:51.49NimbleRabitcuzz there have been sooo many big patches since 1.11....
00:51.54kenlyricbut then they upgraded our pentium 2s.
00:52.01Kaydeethreemeh, if the server comes up before 10 (so in 70 minutes) we'll raid mag, but I'm not expecting it
00:52.03hyperChipmunkoh, now it's "complications" for the "next couple hours"
00:52.48TheKarni love the fact the US gets all the teething out the way
00:52.48AntiarcPinging us.version.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.126] with 32 bytes of data:Request timed out.
00:53.05Kaydeethreethekarn; you're welcome
00:53.08hypetechlol I got RTO when I tried to get to the .com earlier
00:53.12Gnarfoz~seen kebinusan
00:53.15purlkebinusan is currently on #wowace (15h 26m 11s). Has said a total of 107 messages. Is idling for 3h 33m 12s, last said: ':-)'.
00:53.24Gnarfoznot here, then ;)
00:53.54TheKarnso ... CS:Source anyone?
00:54.00Garoun|Loupanaguess they don't want people posting on forums :P
00:54.05hypetechFrozen Throne? :-p
00:54.11Garoun|Loupanathey went ahead and threw them into maintenance mode
00:54.12NimbleRabitlets all go play dota
00:54.12Kaydeethreethey've been broken for an hour or so
00:54.13AntiarcAha! That worked!
00:54.15sdoublepft, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
00:54.22Garoun|Loupananah, Halo 3 ;)
00:54.23Antiarc<PROTECTED>
00:54.25zoktaranyone know how to disable the double tooltips with tinytip?
00:54.27break19ut2k4
00:54.28sdouble/vomit
00:54.29hypetechwe should all go buy FFXI
00:54.29NimbleRabitMY SERVER IS UP
00:54.31NimbleRabit!!!!!!!!!
00:54.41Kaydeethreebest of luck getting in
00:54.47NimbleRabitzoktar: having same problem here
00:54.51Garoun|Loupanayeah the server is up, but the character server is super dead :P
00:54.52sdoubleI can't even connect to the auth server
00:55.00TheKarn:( i dont have ut2k4 installed
00:55.01hypetechNimbleRabit, it'll be down by the time your toon loads
00:55.04Kaydeethreeauth server's probably getting hammered til 2 am or so
00:55.05zoktarNimbleRabit thought id solve it before server goes down ;P
00:55.08NimbleRabitI hate you all
00:55.09NimbleRabitseriously
00:55.16AntiarcIf you can't even connect, do an ipconfig /flushdns (or OS equivalent)
00:55.17hypetechNimbleRabit :p
00:55.19AntiarcAnd you'll  get a new login server
00:55.23break19<- connected :)
00:55.41break19as are a decent part of my guild
00:55.53AntiarcI keep getting stuck at handshaking though
00:55.55break19i need my autobar
00:55.56NimbleRabitmy loading screen got to the end
00:55.59NimbleRabitand stuck
00:56.02hypetechI really wish my realm would have gotten recommended status
00:56.08Kaydeethreeautobar's been breaking a lot of addons today
00:56.18break19while you guys are having issues connecting, go fix it. lol
00:56.21AntiarcAnd I'm in!
00:56.31Garoun|LoupanaI noticed the launcher almost never loads now
00:56.37Garoun|Loupanaseems to shoot straight into wow
00:56.42Kaydeethreeyou can enable it at the login screen
00:56.43AntiarcBoom! Just keep flushing your DNS cache till it comes up with a good server.
00:56.44Garoun|Loupanaah
00:56.45TheKarnbtw you may get spammed with debug messages :P
00:56.47Garoun|Loupanathey defaulted it to off
00:56.49Kaydeethreeit'll still load if there's a patch
00:56.49AntiarcHehe, ok
00:56.59KaydeethreeI'd say check the thread in general but the forums aren't up
00:57.03TheKarni've added a few self:PrintLiteral()'s around here and there
00:57.26AntiarcYeah, looking at the diff now
00:57.28TheKarnAntiarc, can you rewrite PrepareItem from scratch?
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00:57.47Kaydeethreegaroun: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/devtracker/1/en/details/6279/
00:57.47sdoubleThe forums are gettting accidentally DoS'd
00:58.46Garoun|Loupanathanks kaydee
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00:59.19Garoun|Loupanait's not accidental :P it's the screams of a million addicts, sdbouble :P
00:59.29Garoun|Loupana-b
00:59.30Antiar1Bah, DCd
00:59.35Antiar1Why rewrite it?
00:59.56ThorgardMwuah. We had to suspend some sites at my work today 'cause they were hosting the WoW patch for download and ended up going grossly over their bandwidth quota.
01:00.10Realitylololol
01:00.18Gnarfozfigures.
01:00.40NimbleRabitso lame
01:00.42NimbleRabitmy friends server is up
01:00.52Xuerianfigures
01:00.57NimbleRabitand all I have there is a lvl with without his ui set up!
01:00.58XuerianI got to realmlist
01:01.01Thorgardshapes
01:01.01Xuerianand server is down...
01:01.04Gnarfozwhat's more useful: 2/3 Ruthlessness or 2/2 Remorseless? (doing some arena-ing currently, for arena offhand sword)
01:01.15NimbleRabitI'd even consider leveling said level 1 if it wasn't for the ui not being set up
01:01.16ThorgardXuerian, woe is you. My server's up. ;P
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01:01.30steev64curse you login server!
01:01.46steev64my server is up - i just couldn't get a UI
01:01.48loonacyMy server WAS up until I tried to log on to it.  What a tease.
01:02.39Dae`RaukoWhat's up with burning legion...I've been waiting 3 hours and I have 2 friends who've been waiting 13 hours since this morning.
01:02.39NimbleRabitGnarfoz: where is remorseless again?
01:02.39Gnarfoztier 1 assassination
01:02.39NimbleRabitremoreseless is bad
01:02.41vid``wtf
01:02.41NimbleRabitsince you don't get honor in arena
01:02.44vid``i logged in 30 seconds ago
01:02.44Gnarfozgives me one "maybe" crit
01:02.46Gnarfozoh
01:02.49vid``had to restart client and now login is down
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01:03.00ThorgardMy UI mods loaded up fine, save Bartender which loaded up with a default button config. Loading the settings from my character worked, to a point, it didn't like my vertical bar and threw some errors.
01:03.00CIA-2303sorren * r36503 10SorrenTimers/ (6 files):
01:03.00CIA-23SorrenTimers:
01:03.01CIA-23- Why'd no one tell me rogues had a 1 second GCD instead of 1.5
01:03.01CIA-23- Changed over to SharedMediaLib from SurfaceLib
01:03.01CIA-23- Changed the time on Victory Rush
01:03.06hyperChipmunkhaha you lose teh internets
01:03.12NimbleRabitruthlessness is much better
01:03.19Gnarfozof course
01:03.36NimbleRabittry to squeeze out 3/3 =P
01:03.37Gnarfozif remorseless does nothing in arenas, even 2/3 ruthlessness will be far superior :D
01:03.47NimbleRabit;-D
01:03.49Gnarfozwould have to drop relentless for that
01:04.05NimbleRabitlink to spec?
01:04.25Gnarfozactually, far more sense would make to drop shadowstep
01:04.30Gnarfozbut I want to have it in there ;)
01:04.33NimbleRabitlol
01:04.34Gnarfozhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhg0oxZhZxbe0bGRkxst
01:04.44NimbleRabitdon't play shadowstep gawd T_T
01:04.55Gnarfozheh, I never had it, yet
01:05.03NimbleRabitis this for arena's mostly?
01:05.16Gnarfozyea, not much time to do anything else, really
01:05.28NimbleRabitI would change a few things
01:05.28Gnarfozerr
01:05.32Dae`RaukoGnar, ruthlessness...for realz
01:05.36Gnarfoznevermind the 1/3 and 2/3 stuff in sub there
01:05.51Gnarfozthat should be 0/3 and 3/3 ;)
01:05.56NimbleRabitelusiveness is a good talent
01:06.06NimbleRabitif your arena matches last 1.5 minutes
01:06.12Gnarfoz2vs2 mostly
01:06.20Gnarfozthe games don't last long enough
01:06.22NimbleRabitahh
01:06.26NimbleRabitmaster of sub > cheat death imo
01:06.34Gnarfozeven in 3vs3 they don't, and I've got prep anyway
01:06.41NimbleRabitprep doesn't work on blind
01:06.51NimbleRabitbut yeah, if games don't last 1.5 minutes don't bother
01:07.03Gnarfozyea, I know, was thinking about the vanish part
01:07.14NimbleRabitwoah your build is odd
01:07.19NimbleRabitshadowstep but you don't ambush?
01:07.24Gnarfozheh as I said
01:07.34Gnarfozit's not actually my build yet
01:07.35Fisker-i hate this shit :(
01:07.43Gnarfozcurrent build would be
01:07.45bigzeroblizard is regressing....first char selection screen, then realm selection screen, now unable to connect, eventually wow will uninstall
01:07.47Fisker-I was supposed to bid on a lot of stuff but just woke up at 3AM
01:07.48Fisker-:/
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01:07.58Gnarfozwhatever
01:08.14GnarfozI don't HAVE a build that makes sense, I have imp sap and 2.1 isn't live yet in EU
01:08.14GnarfozxD
01:08.21NimbleRabitlol
01:08.25Prophhanyone crashing when you enter EOTS??
01:08.28vid``i havent even played wow in 3 weeks
01:08.31vid``im so bored of it
01:08.32Bam__so any patch panic in the US?
01:08.42vid``i figured i'd check out the game now with the new updates
01:08.46Angry_Dwarfall BGs were crashing earlier
01:08.46NimbleRabitif your gonna go shadowstep spec into oppurtunity, imp ambush, and master of sub
01:08.50vid``but im sure ill get tired and quit after a week :P
01:09.00NimbleRabitand not hemo
01:09.03Gnarfozhm
01:09.05NimbleRabitif your gonna go hemo don't get shadowstep =P
01:09.15Gnarfozyeah, my current build doesn't include shadowstep either
01:09.39Gnarfozbecause, obviously as a sword/combat rogue I don't really do daggers
01:09.41Gnarfoz:D
01:09.53NimbleRabitlol
01:09.54Gnarfozit works on garotte, though
01:09.58NimbleRabitI played 23/0/38
01:09.59NimbleRabitas hemo
01:10.00Prophhanyone crashing when you enter EOTS??
01:10.02NimbleRabitit worked pretty darn well
01:10.02Bam__any surprises addon-wise?
01:10.11Kaydeethreelots and lots of breakage
01:10.16Kaydeethreewhich really caught me offguard
01:10.19Bam__no surprise :P
01:10.21ruinnaanyone else join in on the lvl 1 gnome / dwarf raid to stranglethorn?
01:10.27Gnarfozwhat broke?
01:10.36CIA-2303rabbit * r36504 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Fix drink/food.
01:10.44KaydeethreeAceEvent, bartender, bongos, most unitframe mods
01:10.50GnarfozPTR was ok for me, except for unitframes, but they were fixed, I gathered from hangig out here
01:10.53Bam__AceEvent?
01:11.01Gnarfozbartender?
01:11.03vhaarrKaydeethree: Tried disabling AutoBar?
01:11.07ruinnabartender3 seems to be working now with latest in svn
01:11.09Gnarfozwhat he said --^
01:11.12CIA-2303seerah * r36505 10ClearFont2/ClearFont2.toc: ClearFont2: updated toc to 20100
01:11.12Kaydeethreethis is just reports from the forums
01:11.15Gnarfozah
01:11.18Kaydeethreemedivh hasn't been up for ~18 hours
01:11.33ruinnapitbull was also fine for me
01:11.54GnarfozNimbleRabit: so you would rather do something like this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ihe0oxZhZxbe0hGRsxox ?
01:12.09rubiknooooooo.. Sanity is broken
01:12.21GnarfozI don't even have any data on how often Cheat Death has saved my butt, perhaps I should gather some before respeccing :>
01:12.23vid``wow my ui suprisingly isnt too bad
01:12.30Bam__that's..... Insanity :D
01:12.30TheKarnSanity trunk is old
01:12.36aen`someone have patch note link
01:12.42Xuerianhow the fucking hell did they manage to break so much stuff
01:12.51NimbleRabitGnarfoz: yep, except I still think shadowstep hemo is not good =P
01:13.02NimbleRabitoh it's not in there
01:13.04Gnarfoz:>
01:13.09break19http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ebobZZf0ekhGosrRt <- my rogue currently..
01:13.32NimbleRabitmeh, lemme show you what I ran as hemo
01:14.10GnarfozI wonder how much +10% dmg for 6 seconds really boils down to
01:14.23sdoubleaen`, worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes  but good luck
01:15.06NimbleRabithttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=iheoRx0obZZxrfoMGRsxoh
01:15.47rubikAntiarc|Work: ping
01:15.55NimbleRabitalthough I do kind of like oppurtunity, it just didn't fit my style
01:15.57NimbleRabitI mean
01:15.57Bam__aen`: check http://www.wowwiki.com/Patches too
01:16.02NimbleRabitthe dodge combo point talent
01:16.08NimbleRabitsetup*
01:16.35Antiar1rubik: Pong
01:17.07NeoTronheh my druid tank friend gained almost 5k armor and over 1k health together with some other minor buffs
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01:17.28NeoTron24.6k AC, 13.7k healt, 39% dodge unbuffed
01:17.33mjcloggin in to check mine
01:17.39mjclol 39% dodge? how do you hold aggro
01:17.48NeoTroneasily
01:17.55NeoTronI can't out-threat her on my warlock with > 1000 spell dmg
01:18.00NeoTroneven if I start dpsing right away
01:18.13NeoTronbesides, no parry / block
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01:19.23LePeR|Jauniahehe yea druids op
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01:19.26Gnarfoz<NimbleRabit> the dodge combo point talent <- heh, I like being arcane explosion spammed by a mage when I just popped CloS :D
01:19.35NeoTronguild MT warrior has 12.5k health, 14.5k AC, and a combined 41% dodge/parry and 28% block unbuffed
01:19.38NimbleRabitlol yeah it can be nice
01:19.48vid``hmm weird
01:19.48NimbleRabitbut yeah, what I linked is the gist of what I think works well as hemo
01:20.01vid``all the items in my inventory bags are grayed out cant click em
01:20.03NimbleRabitI can't do hemo without cold blood
01:20.09Gnarfozso many possible combinations, respecs should be free :D
01:20.27NimbleRabitbecause with it I can get 5 cp's, cb evisc, vanish, premed, cheapshot, cb evisc
01:20.38NimbleRabitfor a quick burst to take somebody down
01:20.39Gnarfozouch
01:20.40Gnarfoz:>
01:20.44tsigoGruul is using Hurtful Strike on random people in melee range, ignoring aggro.
01:20.55CIA-2303toadkiller * r36506 10AutoBar/ (16 files):
01:20.55CIA-23AutoBar:
01:20.55CIA-23-- Remove some Data Rot from AutoBar.xml
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01:21.11Gnarfozbefore BC came
01:21.26break19data rot? how bout fixin the tainting.. lol
01:21.43NeoTronmaybe data being rotted tainted wow's fine sense of smell
01:21.59GnarfozI was pondering whether having any 30/31 combination (two of the "old" ultimates at the same time) would be of any use
01:22.03NeoTrontsigo: seriosuly? damn
01:22.09NimbleRabitWUU can't install wowace addons anymore
01:22.21NeoTronis it doing it on max-HP targets or just completely random?
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01:22.22AntiarcBah. Someone remind me how you remove entries from a hash.
01:22.36NimbleRabitGnarfoz: dagger spec, 30/0/31
01:22.48Gnarfozyup
01:22.52Gnarfozthat one came to mind, first
01:22.57NimbleRabitI tried it
01:23.13NimbleRabitit was allright, I don't enjoy daggers really
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01:23.26NimbleRabitpremed is a really freaking cool ability though that I miss as combat
01:23.40rubikAntiarc: my precious.. Sanity2.. is broken.. you aware of breakage?
01:23.46AntiarcYup, working on it as we speak.
01:24.02rubikfantabulous.. no rush, just wanted to make sure to report it if unknown
01:24.42vhaarrAntiarc: hash[key] = nil ?
01:25.47Antiarcvhaarr: Wanting to remove all entries in a hash.
01:25.53AntiarcSo the keys are known, kinda.
01:26.00AntiarcGuess I could foreach
01:26.12vhaarrAntiarc: for k in pairs(tbl) do tbl[k] = nil end
01:26.18NimbleRabitis there a way to copy my addon settings from server to server
01:26.35hyperChipmunkyea, but it requires some sed-fu
01:26.37AntiarcMmm. That leaves the keys intact though, does it not?
01:26.44NimbleRabit~wtf sed-fu
01:26.44vhaarrAntiarc: no
01:27.14vhaarr~wtf sed
01:27.16NimbleRabitI'll just assume I have sed-fu, how do I do it? =P
01:27.24vhaarryou don't have sed-fu
01:27.24NimbleRabitoh
01:27.28NimbleRabitI have no sed-fu
01:27.30AntiarcExcellent, thanks
01:28.10Bam__~luac
01:28.20Bam__:(
01:28.33NimbleRabitgod I hate going to new servers
01:28.33NimbleRabitT_T
01:29.22Prophhso how is everyone getting a netherdrake mount already??
01:29.33TheKarnorly?
01:29.38TheKarnpeople have netherdrakes already?
01:29.45Kalman|Isn't it just a bugged quest?
01:29.52LePeR|Jauniaomg my server is up
01:30.02TheKarnlets hope it's still bugged for eu tomorrow
01:30.06Prophhwhich part of the quest is bugged?
01:30.11Fisker-y helo thar
01:30.21Angry_Dwarfis there a way to get rid of the reagent count that's on buttons now?  I notice that's a blizzard thing
01:30.59Kaydeethreenot without a barmod iirc
01:31.06NightHawkTheSaneProph: the part that makes you look like you're on a netherdrake. :P
01:31.24Kaydeethreeprophh; that's been a bug since day one of the ptr
01:31.25Bam__hmm... hiding the texture with Visor2 or something?
01:31.28Kaydeethreeit happens /all the time/
01:32.29Prophhah
01:32.56Kaydeethreeat most people are friendly if they've been getting lucky with egg spawns
01:33.10Kaydeethreethat's the only fully-repeatable quest
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01:34.17vid``h
01:34.19vid``mmm
01:34.23vid``i dont like the new blizz auto dismount
01:34.37Kaydeethree<PROTECTED>
01:34.41bigzerotrying to find a function that would allow me to determine if the player has a certain profession...anyone know a lib that would contain such a function?
01:34.58Kaydeethreebig; open the spells book and scan the general tab?
01:35.12Arrowmasteryou should be able to check skills
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01:35.55bigzeroKaydeethree, i was going to do that, but would have used a prewritten lib if it were available
01:36.25bigzeroArrowmaster, it's really retarded how blizzard has it set up...i looked at their code for the skills window...ugh
01:36.51Kaydeethreeyah. the skills api is beyond broken
01:37.10loonacyWhee, my server isn't even on the realm list anymore.
01:37.15Arrowmastersame
01:37.18Wixisame
01:37.23Wixiwhat server?
01:37.25NightHawkTheSanevindication still not up then?
01:37.30Kaydeethreeruin's down too
01:37.31loonacySisters of Elune
01:37.34Arrowmasteryeah vindication still down
01:37.40NightHawkTheSanehmm.
01:37.41Wixisomeone stole Twisting Nether :(
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01:37.41Arrowmasterrelease battlegroups ftl
01:37.51NightHawkTheSanei'm not sure if i'm happy or sad about that
01:37.53Wixiit vanished into the twisting nether :O
01:38.09NightHawkTheSaneon the plus side, i can actually get real work done. on the down side... wah my servers down :(
01:38.25Birdemani[FH]so how can i purge all my gather data since mining nodes have been moved?
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01:38.40NightHawkTheSaneuh, just nuke the db?
01:38.48Birdemani[FH]guess i could do that
01:38.50Wixioh to top it off, someone on another server says HKM and gruul are broken
01:38.54Kaydeethreeoh wow. new server alert
01:39.05Kaydeethreeall realms up by 9PM pacific, hopefully
01:39.28ZealotOnAStickI'm having a major brain fart here.  What's the linux command to rename a directory?
01:39.30Birdemani[FH]why would anyone want a new server now
01:39.33Kaydeethreemv
01:39.54Kaydeethreenew alert, not new server
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01:42.43the_squidBirdemani[FH], mining nodes have been moved?  i thought they were moving the creatures?
01:43.19hypetechhmm, one of my bars in BT3 isn't going green with the rest of them when I go to unlock. I can't right click it or anything, but once I click disable, it does disappear. -.-
01:43.31Bam__is it only in Outland nodes have moved?
01:44.31PeoiiIt was definately atleast outland nodes which have moved.  I'd check azeroth nodes, but my server is offline. :/
01:45.02KyrinZealotOnAStick: mv SOURCE DEST
01:45.14NightHawkTheSanebleh, i had a good herb db too.
01:45.31Bam__I guess it's time to clear out ones cartographer db then
01:45.41PeoiiThey didn't move far, sometimes simply a yard or two, and most of my mining DB was acurate within a couple yards.
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01:46.15Bam__ok so the db might fix itself when picking up the new ones you think?
01:46.17KaydeethreeI thought it was only mineral nodes that moved
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01:46.30PeoiiThe only major changes I noticed was when entering a zone which recieved a major overhaul.  Like for instance, netherwing ledge.
01:46.39KyrinI hope only mining nodes moved
01:47.04PeoiiI wouldn't be suprised to see more than simply mining nodes, but you never know.
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01:49.03cynyrhow do i move the bars for classtimer?
01:49.17Bam__from patch notes: The location of many of the Outland mineral nodes have been adjusted both to put them in locations that are more traveled and to make them more likely to be near creatures.
01:49.34Wobwork><
01:49.40Wobworkomg gnaked
01:49.40Peoiilol, go figure ;)
01:50.33the_squidBam__, thanks
01:50.35KemayoCrap!  ExpressMail doesn't work!
01:50.37FISKER_Qskinning a bear should aggro all bears
01:50.58hyperChipmunkFISKER_Q: yea, my g/f mentioned that
01:51.25Bam__women should know... aggro one and you aggro them all :D
01:51.29Antiarc<PROTECTED>
01:51.30Antiarcer
01:51.32AntiarcIgnore that
01:52.07FISKER_Qyou're doing it wrong
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01:52.16FISKER_QWoW isn't a MUD
01:52.48Peoiiif only...
01:53.02PeoiiThen I wouldn't feel like a tard trying to do stuff like {* to get peoples attention.
01:53.26rubikhmm.. PT3Browser borked too
01:54.01vid``everything suprisingly works
01:54.05vid``only onebag seems broke for me atm
01:54.06WobworkThe Bear's death cry <flash>***ECHOES***</flash> through the land!!!
01:54.10GalkaIs anyone else getting this error upon login?
01:54.18GalkaInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:872: bad argument #1 to 'strmatch' (string expected, got nil):
01:54.20GalkaInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:872: in function `QueryCastSequence':
01:54.21GalkaInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1253: in function <Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1229>:
01:54.23GalkaInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1272: in function <Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1269>:
01:54.25Galka(tail call): ?:
01:54.26GalkaInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1287: in function <Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1283>:
01:54.28GalkaInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1299: in function `UpdateMacroFeedback':
01:54.28Wobworkpastey ftw =P
01:54.29Galka<string>:"*:OnUpdate":10: in function <[string "*:OnUpdate"]:1>
01:54.31Galka<PROTECTED>
01:54.33GalkaAnd if so, please enlighten me as to what's causing it.
01:54.37rubikonebag works for me
01:54.56WobworkGalka check your macros
01:55.01GalkaI thought it might be SimpleChatMod, which is causing some oddities of its own, but disabling that did not get rid of the error
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01:55.07FISKER_Qpeople gotta remember "Skinning a bear should aggro every bears" is serious
01:55.09PeoiiThe only addon of mine that's obviously borked atm is Phanxchat.
01:55.32FISKER_QCause it just goes to show how stupid it was of Blizzard to make mine veins and herbs guarded when skinning isn't
01:56.22PeoiiWell you gotta admit, Mining is the king of cash cows.
01:56.32Kaydeethreebecause level 1s can kill level 70 mobs, amirite?
01:56.40vhaarrGalka: It's a blizzard bug.
01:56.46Gnarfozswarms of piranhas jumping out of the water to attack unsuspecting fishers... news at 11
01:56.54FISKER_Qhehe
01:57.03Bam__FISKER_Q: well if the idea is that you should generally have to fight a mob to gather something, then skinning is now equal to the other professions :P
01:57.10PeoiiMemories of ZG Fish.... must... purge.... mind....
01:57.18FISKER_Qhaha
01:57.30FISKER_Qnow we know why next UI update isn't due until 2.1.2
01:57.37FISKER_QFlask of Distilled Wisdom gives 2000 int
01:57.39FISKER_Qapparently
01:57.47Kaydeethreeoh whoops
01:57.50FISKER_Qi'm sooooo gonna get me one of those when i log on
01:57.57Gnarfozlol who fucked that up
01:57.57Gnarfoz;D
01:57.59ToadkillerI checked in a version of AutoBar sans a leftover state driver.  This should fix the issues & for sure fixes the problem with Bartender
01:58.02vhaarrFISKER_Q: If you had one on you before the realms went down, you'll have +2000 INT when you log in.
01:58.25vhaarrfor the duration of the flask
01:58.28FISKER_Qso i won't if i get one made after they're up again?
01:58.33vhaarrno
01:58.37FISKER_Qdamn
01:58.41Gnarfozindeed
01:58.50Gnarfozus servers were up before EU went down
01:58.51FISKER_Qi would've lol'd so hard
01:59.13Gnarfoztoo bad I didn't hear about this early enough :D
01:59.37FISKER_Qtoo bad i fell asleep cause i would've heard about it
01:59.38FISKER_Q:(
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02:00.01Bam__dont you play on EU server Fisker?
02:00.04Gnarfoztoo bad that's too bad
02:00.11FISKER_Qyes Bam__
02:00.21FISKER_Qand i fell asleep ~10 hours ago
02:00.28FISKER_Qi.e. when i got home from work :(
02:00.30Bam__eh... then I am lost lol
02:00.35Gnarfozalso: 3 hours left until getting ready for work... better get some sleep now :D
02:00.36FISKER_Q<-lightweight
02:01.30Peoiiholy wow, my server actually came up at a reasonable time!  first time for everything.
02:01.41Peoii<-- on one of the cursed 12...
02:01.43ckknighthey all
02:01.44ckknightback
02:01.50FISKER_Qhey
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02:02.15ckknightFunkeh`: pong
02:02.24Bam__the advantage of playing on EU server is that a patch has been tested on Americans before it hits us :D
02:03.03ckknightthe advantag of playing on US server is that we get to play with new patches before the Europeans get to :D
02:03.11Bam__hehe
02:03.18ckknight:-P
02:03.25Bam__wonder when the Asian servers update...
02:03.29PeoiiThe advantage of playing on Cenarius is....oh wait, there isn't one.
02:03.34Gnarfoznymbia: the arena ladder is kind of the exception when you're trying to just mine player data from the armory from a-z, right? something like 'data for every level 70 char' would be harder, if not impossible (or with impossibly stupid load created on the armory servers) to implement, right?
02:03.38ckknightBam__: a few months
02:03.38Funkeh`ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6179.msg102873#msg102873
02:03.50Bam__they are that much behind?
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02:04.03ckknightBam__: 2.0 was released only 2 months ago for Taiwan
02:04.20Bam__aww... they must have serious problems using addons then
02:04.24GagorianAnyone have access to the new untalented damage range of frostbolt rank 12?
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02:04.59Peoiisure, just a sec.
02:05.26Peoii548-591
02:05.46nymbiaGnarfoz: yeah there's no way to get a full list of 70s :(
02:06.14Diaothey have separate addons usually
02:06.20PeoiiGagorian:  That should be correct, assuming I'm not missing something.  I've got all of 3 talents in the whole frost tree, so hopefully.
02:06.40Bam__Diao: their own addon developers you mean?
02:06.45Diaoyeah
02:06.54Gnarfoznymbia: meh, but ok, then at least I'll know the specs of Arena-goers from now on when looking for groups ;>
02:06.57Herioanyone know how to turn off this new autodismount bullshit?
02:07.03Diaointerface options?
02:07.05nymbiaGnarfoz: lol ;)
02:07.16Kaydeethree<PROTECTED>
02:07.25Herio<3 kaydeethree
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02:07.29nymbiaGnarfoz: i guess we could do guild searches after finding arena players, but it's an insane amount of data and requests
02:08.17Gnarfozwhich would lead back to my concern in parentheses in my original question D:
02:08.19Gnarfoz:\
02:08.24GagorianPeoii: Alright thanks. Seems like the same old range, yet blizzard said they increased damage
02:08.44AntiarcWoo, think I got the major Sanity problems knocked out.
02:08.45GagorianMaybe it was applying something incorrectly to it.
02:08.51Gnarfozand even then, there are unguilded people :D
02:09.08PeoiiGagorian: Well, there's rank 13 still too, not sure if you meant to check that :P
02:09.27GagorianAccording to patch notes
02:09.29GnarfozI guess it's just too much hassle right now, until someone finds some neat backdoor to get a full guild list in nicely parseable xml ;>
02:09.30Gagorian""Frostbolt": Damage on rank 12 has been increased slightly to ensure it did more damage than rank 11 at all levels."
02:09.39Gnarfozwho knows what's there or whats to come :>
02:10.09Wobwork??
02:10.12PeoiiGagorian: oh god, I remember that... Rank12 used to do like 50 more damage, max... it was silly.  Prolly more internal fix that wouldn't be reflected on the tooltip.
02:10.40GagorianProbably
02:10.53Wobworkwhat does it mean "at all levels"?
02:11.02Gnarfozspells scale with levels
02:11.09Gnarfozsome do
02:11.18GagorianMost do, generally a few percent
02:11.31GagorianUntil the next rank is learned
02:11.35Gnarfozit seems at some level between 60 and 70, frost bolt scaled in such a way
02:11.41Gnarfozthat fb11 did more dmg than fb1
02:11.41Gnarfoz2
02:11.56GagorianAny level 70 paladin with rank 4 hammer of wrath?
02:12.29GagorianWould need post patch damage range
02:12.50the_squidyay eitrigg is back
02:12.53the_squidto the stormspire!
02:13.33FISKER_QGagorian me but i'm EU :o
02:13.42GnarfozI am too
02:13.53Gnarfozand I am going to bed
02:13.57Gnarfozwoot
02:13.59GagorianFail!
02:14.06rubikis the "actionbar doesn't switch on stance switch" a blizz bug or addon (bongos, bartender, etc.) related?
02:14.08GagorianGot PTR account? :>
02:14.12FISKER_Qyeah
02:14.14FISKER_Qlogging on now
02:14.26loonacyThis is so fun, watching all the servers go green on the status list.... except for my server.
02:15.11FISKER_Q672-742
02:15.27FISKER_Qhmm
02:15.35FISKER_Qwhy did they put hammer of wrath under holy again? :P
02:15.59CIA-2303ckknight * r36507 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - fix issue with pressing the red X on the world map frame.
02:16.36GagorianMmkay thanks. Then only base damage changed, not the scaling
02:16.45hyperChipmunksylvanaar: prat alt-invite needs fixage
02:17.01hyperChipmunke.g. "Could not find Soandso:118"
02:17.05GagorianWhich would suggest the scaling is manually set, which proves that my efforts back in the day to figure out a formula for it were in vain
02:18.49GagorianSeems like I got all 2.1 changes complete then
02:19.30FISKER_Qhaha @ potion prices
02:19.37FISKER_Q1 coilfang armament for 3 health/mana pots
02:20.01Angry_Dwarfarmaments for potions?
02:20.14GagorianWe can secure hook frame objects now yes? And does AceHook support it?
02:20.30FISKER_Qyeah
02:20.35Diaohm
02:20.40Diaois there any documentation on getinline
02:20.43Diaoi want to see what features it has :x
02:21.49FISKER_Qanyone undocumented changes btw?
02:22.49aen`so sad
02:23.01aen`the google top trends are all wow related pretty much
02:23.17aen`and titan panel is one of them :(
02:23.30FISKER_Q:(
02:23.38aen`http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends?sa=X
02:23.41FISKER_Qdidn't even know they still made it
02:23.57AntiarcOk, somehow, SanityItemCache is utterly destroying my CPU, but I can't for the life of me figure out what's doing it.
02:24.06AntiarcThough it's nothing compared to KTM. Sheesh.
02:24.22aen`i need to figure out whats causing .5 sec delays when opening windows w/ my ui
02:24.52rubiki just want to figure out why changing stances doesn't switch actionbars.. with bongos, at least.. any such problems with bartender?
02:25.07vhaarrrubik: Update Autobar.
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02:25.35rubikdon't use autobar
02:25.40Birdemani[FH]ok
02:25.46Birdemani[FH]think i have an issue with bartender 3
02:25.51Birdemani[FH]need help
02:25.56rubiki use PT3Bar.. would that interfere too?
02:25.59CIA-2303ckknight * r36508 10SharedMedia/ (9 files in 2 dirs): SharedMedia - add statusbar textures: Armory, Glaze2, Pill, Tube, Ruben, Melli, MelliDark, MelliDarkRough
02:26.01Birdemani[FH]when in combat bars dont change
02:26.21rubikright
02:26.25Birdemani[FH]so if i hit bloodrage, then try to change stances nothign happens
02:26.26rubiksame issue here.. with using Bongos
02:26.39thesandmanI had all my MODS become out of date with the new patch LOL
02:26.56rubiksucks if you're a druid in feral form and you pop out to heal and uhh.. you gotta heal using your feral keys
02:27.00TullerBirdemani[FH]: are you using the beta or not?
02:27.05Birdemani[FH]no, updated today
02:27.10Birdemani[FH]using wau
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02:28.46Fisker-any word on black temple attunement btw?
02:29.00ZealotOnAStickanyone else having issues with MainAssist basically not working at all after patch?
02:29.10Fisker-and btw Kaelten was a sneaky bastard disabling 1.7 on patch day
02:29.18Fisker-that reduced his bandwitdh usage by 99%
02:29.18Fisker-:P
02:29.30Fisker-btw more frownies
02:29.35Fisker-34. ct raid
02:29.38Fisker-<PROTECTED>
02:29.40NeeblerI use JWoWUpdater
02:29.50Neeblerworks sexah
02:31.17Peoiihrm... well piss
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02:31.20PeoiiError:  Usage: <unnamed>:SetScale(scale)File: Interface\AddOns\Quartz_Buff\Buff.luaLine: 415Count: 1
02:32.07FdlkjAnyone else having a problem with agUnitFrames not showing up?
02:33.10khakiiafter you update it, no.
02:33.18Birdemani[FH]so anyway to fix bt3?
02:33.31Funkeh`whats wrong with it
02:33.39Birdemani[FH]if i am in combat it wont change stances
02:33.40Birdemani[FH]a
02:33.43FdlkjI've updated it, and still isn't showing up
02:33.53Funkeh`have you tried doing that with default blizz bars?
02:33.56Fdlkjplus, the minimap button isn't even displaying a menu anymore
02:33.56Birdemani[FH]if i change stances in combat it waits till i am out of combat
02:34.11Birdemani[FH]no funkeh
02:34.13vhaarrBirdemani[FH]: Do you run Autobar?
02:34.18GagorianCan AceHook now securehook frame objects?
02:34.21Birdemani[FH]yes i do vhaar
02:34.25vhaarrupdate it, then
02:34.31Birdemani[FH]isnt is on wau?
02:34.50Birdemani[FH]ill just reinstall eveythign from scratch, btb
02:34.51Birdemani[FH]brb
02:35.04CyrezI think Cellular has a hiccup. ><
02:35.39CyrezSomebody sent me a reply and all I saw was CHAT_MSG_WHISPER or something like that. But I looked in ChatLog and the message was right there.
02:35.58Fisker-http://i8.tinypic.com/4p2m6wo.jpg <-lol
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02:40.48Daenryashould i even bother asking whats the deal with aguf?
02:41.19Birdemani[FH]vhaar: i just did a full new install and it seems to have fixed my bt3 issue
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02:42.32Diaohm
02:42.37Diaodoes skinner look funny for anyone else
02:42.43Diaoit's not hiding the borders like it used to
02:42.55Realityvhaarr: ping
02:43.33Funkeh`wow
02:43.33Funkeh`putting a puppy to sleep is a mission :/
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02:44.07vhaarrReality: pong
02:45.01Realityi've been testing the flight form addition
02:45.09ckknightDaenrya: deal?
02:45.33Realityso far it works great, the only gripe i have is that it doesn't switch back to my previous outfit when i shift out of flight form
02:46.06vhaarrReality: You need to set a Default set.
02:46.10Daenryaaguf seems to not give me my targeting or ToT info sometimes
02:46.23Daenryaspecifically, if I start combat with nothing targeted, i dont get a target window at all
02:46.25Daenryaor ToT
02:46.36Daenryacant figure out whats causing the target window to show, but no ToT
02:46.37vhaarrupdate autobar
02:46.49Realityideally i'd like it to be like CG_Mount, in that it would always return to the last worn set. sometimes i'm flying around in bear gear, other times i'm in cat
02:47.12Realitysince i switch gear around so much i don't use a default set
02:47.17ckknightDaenrya: I believe that's a blizz bug...
02:47.44Daenryahrm, so it should effect all unit frames?
02:47.52ckknightit affects PitBull
02:48.18ckknightDaenrya: question: do you have AutoBar?
02:48.23Daenryai do
02:48.30Realityvhaarr: other than that one gripe it works just fine
02:48.31Daenryai let it update via WUA
02:48.44Daenryaill pop it from the site and see if that fixes it
02:48.48ckknightDaenrya: disable it.
02:48.54Daenryadisable?
02:48.56ckknightyes
02:49.00Daenryaaight
02:49.01ckknightget PT3Bar if need be.
02:49.19vhaarr<vhaarr> update autobar
02:49.24vhaarrit should be fixed now
02:49.27ckknightokay, update
02:49.30ckknightnot disable
02:49.42vhaarrand if it isn't, bug Toadkiller
02:50.59anenigmatotally random and probably not ace related, but.  my chat messages all look like "<Miyu:304> Blah" where the 304 increases every chat message.  anyone seen anything like this
02:51.24CIA-2303evonder * r36509 10FuBar_CheckFearWardFu/FuBar_CheckFearWardFu.toc:
02:51.24CIA-23FuBar_CheckFearWardFu:
02:51.24CIA-23- Updated TOC for 2.0.1
02:51.48Funkeh`2.0.1?
02:51.48Funkeh`lol
02:51.48ckknight*sigh*
02:51.56Daenryathat seems to have fixed it
02:52.12kergothanenigma, apparently the player link format changed
02:52.23ThorgardSomeone's a few patches behind.
02:52.37TheKarnhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ZX5qdIEB0&NR=1 that is some serious skill
02:52.59Daenryathanks guys, cant get it to bug out now, wierd that autobar was messing it up
02:53.32vhaarranenigma: happens with a lot of chat addons in 2.1
02:53.39vhaarranenigma: SCM will be fixed tomorrow
02:54.22anenigmaoh.  if it's common, i'll deal with it until it gets fixed
02:56.42Diaoalso
02:56.42Diaothere's a bug with aloft
02:56.42Diaoi turn on nameplates once
02:56.42Diaothen i turn it off
02:56.42Diaoand now whenever i login
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02:56.43Diaoit turns them back on automatically
02:57.04CIA-2303ckknight * r36510 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - if this is the first time logging into WoW 2.1, enable scriptErrors.
02:57.45kebinusanhmm weird, it seems every time I try to exit wow I have to kill the process
02:58.11CIA-2303ckknight * r36511 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - if this is the first time logging into WoW 2.1, enable scriptErrors.
02:58.19Funkeh`ckknight: eh?
02:58.47vhaarrI agree with ckknight, it should be enabled by default.
02:58.54Funkeh`its not?
02:58.58vhaarrno?
02:59.05Funkeh`...
02:59.09CIA-2303ckknight * r36512 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - if this is the first time logging into WoW 2.1, enable scriptErrors.
02:59.10ckknightno, it's not
02:59.12ckknightokay
02:59.15ckknightI'm good.
02:59.40anenigmavhaarr: Oddly enough, I disable bugsack and buggrabber, and it'x fixed
02:59.45nymbiathose three should cover 99% of the users
02:59.56ckknightyep, nymbia :-)
02:59.56vhaarranenigma: It's not fixed.
02:59.59Funkeh`LOL nymbia
03:00.51ckknightanenigma: errors are hidden by default. Update PitBull or Cartographer or FuBar.
03:01.14ckknightit covers all my users, at least, nymbia
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03:01.34sdoubleQuite true nymbia.  Only things I use are those 3, auctioneer, and trinity bars.  /pat ckknight
03:01.37CIA-2303antiarc 07SplitCache * r36513 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua): Sanity2: Bugfixes to today's updates
03:01.39TullerBongos2 1.0: http://tullamods.googlecode.com/files/Bongos21.0.zip
03:01.54Funkeh`whats new?
03:02.01CIA-2303antiarc * r36514 10SanityBags/SanityBags.toc: SanityBags: Bugfixes to today's updates.
03:02.39CIA-2303antiarc * r36515 10/branches/SanityItemCache/ (SanityItemCache.lua SanityItemCacheConstants.lua): SanityItemCache: Bugfixes, fixed a problem with items getting improperly set readonly. Is sucking CPU, not sure why. Info appreciated.
03:02.43anenigmavhaarr/ckknight:  Don't know if I explained it well.  My chat looks like  "<Miyu:304> Blah" with bugsack+buggrabber enabled.  With them disabled, it looks like "<Miyu> Blah".  The second one is also colored properly, the first is always grey
03:02.55ckknightmine doesn't
03:03.05vhaarranenigma: I don't believe you.
03:03.18Funkeh`blame nymbia
03:03.19ckknightneither do I.
03:03.25nymbiaFunkeh`: seriously
03:03.50ckknight~blame nymbia
03:03.58purlACTION blames nymbia (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
03:04.14Funkeh`EU patch is available on the downloders and whatnot
03:05.12Fisker-can't even login right now
03:06.00Fisker-got a downloader you can send? :)!
03:06.27Kyrinamg!
03:06.31Kyrinblaming Canada!
03:06.31Funkeh`ill have something up in a sec
03:07.23vhaarrFunkeh`: giev patch
03:07.25Funkeh`Fisker-: you got partial 1 & 2 ?
03:07.30kebinusanjust curious anyone else having issues with 2.1 under wine where the wow process hangs while exiiting?
03:07.34kenlyricis the new cartographer thing an intended setting, because it's awesome :)
03:07.45Fisker-yarr Funkeh`
03:07.45ckknightkenlyric: ?
03:07.48Kaydeethreeya. wow's refusing to die in wine
03:07.54Funkeh`Fisker-: ill upload the last piece then
03:07.58Fisker-why would it die in wine?!
03:08.13kenlyricin outlands, it only shows a cutout of the land :)
03:08.23kenlyricnot the full square map.
03:08.45ckknightoh
03:08.47ckknightyea
03:08.52ckknightthat's intended
03:08.55ckknightshift-mousewheel to change.
03:09.04ckknightthat's been in there for a while.
03:09.04kenlyricno, I like :)
03:09.12kenlyricguess it was never the default.
03:09.27Fisker-it's transparency
03:09.53kebinusanKaydeethree: thanks at least its not just me
03:10.04Fisker-DO WANT Funkeh`
03:10.05kenlyricchanging transparency doesn't change it.
03:10.12Fisker-i only got 20 minutes until i need to go to work
03:10.14Fisker-and play WoW
03:10.15Fisker-:P
03:10.31Funkeh`lol
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03:11.25Funkeh`omg
03:11.28Funkeh`coolness
03:11.33Funkeh`wierd nes splash screen
03:11.35Funkeh`new*
03:11.52Funkeh`oh gg
03:11.55kergothwas wondering why you were playing a nintendo
03:11.57Funkeh`'preparing to download new patch'
03:12.02Funkeh`they patched it already?
03:12.28Funkeh`all the stupid bugs that US reported probably
03:12.28vhaarrlol
03:12.47vhaarrFunkeh`: give patch link!
03:12.58Fisker-MOAR
03:13.09vhaarrgod I'm so full
03:13.11vhaarr:(
03:13.26abyssichateI am getting hungry actually
03:13.39GagorianI usually eat pasta 'for three' cause they have retardedly low amounts specified per person
03:13.39abyssichateand it's 5.13 am, not good :(
03:13.47vhaarrFisker-: I gotta warn you, I'm full of garlic
03:13.50GagorianLike 70g, and I usually eat ~200g.
03:13.59vhaarrGagorian: homemade pasta for 3
03:13.59Fisker-http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/22/blizzard-and-make-a-wish-bringing-wow-to-life/ <-watch out furor :P
03:14.02vhaarr*2
03:14.04Dranorjust sit down, relax and don't try to think how much pasta did you eat :P
03:14.09ThorgardGagorian, yeah, they do. 'Tis silly.
03:14.13vhaarrI made for 3, but there's a lot left
03:15.23Funkeh`vhaarr: yeye gimme 2 min
03:15.36vhaarr\o/
03:16.08Fisker-2 min is not enough almost :o
03:16.18Fisker-probably should use my time better
03:18.47theoddone33the shaman class color changed??
03:19.59ckknightyes.
03:20.01ckknightbluer
03:20.02Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/wow2.1/
03:20.05Fisker-2 last EU files there
03:20.15Fisker-just unzip into the directory with the partials
03:20.34hyperChipmunkin bartender, what is the "Re-use Buttons" option?
03:21.02ZealotOnAStickBigwigs is way off on Gruul now.  They changed all his shit.
03:21.35Arrowmasternevcairiel: rogue friend is saying that reseting his bartender3 stance stuff started working again after changing his profile
03:21.35ZealotOnAStickif we do a third, I'll get a transcript.
03:22.37Daenryahrm, cartographer seems to have an issue... when i change to a map not of a zone im in,the map of the zone that im in is overlaying it as if the rest of the stuff was fully transparent
03:22.53aen`yeah my UI is completely borked
03:22.55Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: would appreaciate a debugger log
03:23.01aen`i get .5 sec delays on all window opens
03:24.11ZealotOnAStickI don't have debugger installed.  I do have transcriptor.
03:24.21ZealotOnAStickI don't know if I can exit and restart in time to add debugger.
03:25.00ArrowmasterROFL, spellfire tailor friend just went and made spellcloth, when you get 2 cloth now 2 mobs spawn
03:25.08ZealotOnAStickgetting it now.  any trick to running it?
03:25.17Daenryaoh thats just evil
03:25.18kenlyriclol!
03:25.31ckknightDaenrya: are you updated?
03:25.32kenlyricthat's gonna suck for my friend whose alt is 50 and parked out there.
03:25.45Daenryayeah i downloaded everything off of wowace.com/files
03:25.48Daenryakilled all the old folders
03:25.53Nifeare there any debuff trackers what work with the new 2.1 method ? Chronmeter doesn't
03:26.02Arrowmasterclasstimers
03:26.09ckknightDaenrya: when?
03:26.20Daenryaabout 10 minutes ago
03:26.25ckknighthrm
03:27.30ckknightworks for me
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03:27.37Herionnnnnnnnoooooooooooooo
03:27.41Herioblend is gone!
03:27.47Herio(pitbull layout)
03:27.52Daenryahrm
03:28.31Nifehow do you turn that ugly glow off of pitbull ?  not the elite one.  seems like one from debuff
03:28.50theoddone33probably turn off auras
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03:28.59CryectAntagonist also works with the new 2.1 method
03:29.01theoddone33or debuff hilighting or whatever it's called
03:29.03Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: exact same as transcriptor
03:29.10Funkeh`make it glow ZealotOnAStick
03:29.11Fisker-what new splash screen Funkeh`?
03:29.23Funkeh`i got it after installing
03:29.25Funkeh`once it seems
03:29.27Funkeh`never again :D
03:29.37ckknightNife: you look in the goddamn options.
03:29.49ThorgardOh god this new auto-dismounting makes me cream.
03:29.50ZealotOnAStickjust debugger or want transcriptor too?
03:29.58Funkeh`not bothered, both if ya like
03:30.00Funkeh`they both help
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03:31.12ZealotOnAStickok.
03:31.43ZealotOnAStickprobably only have one run.  Hopefully it'll be enough to get the timer differences.
03:31.57ZealotOnAStickWe're probably going to say fuck it if we don't drop him this time.  The fight got real aggravating.
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03:32.34GalkaBlizzard needs to copy all of Automaton into default UI :)
03:32.49FISKER_Qsee you guys :o
03:32.51FISKER_Qnah
03:32.55FISKER_Qautomation needs to be fixed
03:33.03FISKER_Qpretty annoying when it auto accepts ress :P
03:33.03theoddone33huh
03:33.12Kaydeethreeand autoreleases
03:33.13theoddone33there are 70 elites stealthed on the AH roof in org
03:33.20theoddone33"troll roof stalker"
03:33.23anenigmayup
03:33.24Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: debugger logs some extra things like syncs and casts that are helpful
03:33.26FISKER_Q(i know i can turn it off, but i don't want to auto accept a ress when it's being done as a combat ress :P)
03:33.29FISKER_Qbbl
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03:35.56vhaarrkebinusan: same problem here with 2.1 and wine
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03:36.53mjctheoddone33: about fucking time
03:36.58CIA-2303cryect * r36516 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Autohides graph and detail windows on data reset as well immediately refreshing the main window. This should stop errors involving showing data no longer existing.
03:37.13theoddone33I don't understand why they'd add roof guards
03:37.23theoddone33I'm thinking conspiracy theory
03:38.39Garoun|Loupanaanyone know if there is a bug still with Netherdrake mounts?
03:39.00kebinusanvhaarr: okie, well good to know its not me, I was going to try removing scan.dll and chmod -w the WoW dir
03:39.09kebinusansee if thats causing it
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03:40.16vhaarrcool
03:41.49Aenslaedgood god. WHy is solarian so hard for my guild today :/
03:41.54ZealotOnAStickvhaar, Funkeh`: http://bc.onoro.us/Gruul2.1logs.zip
03:42.03Aenslaedwtb, bigwigs thaddius arrows cept for Solarian
03:42.31kebinusanAenslaed: is it needed for the fight
03:42.32ZealotOnASticklemme know if you can't get the zip or something,
03:42.39Aenslaedkebinusan: it helps with the debuffs
03:42.44abyssichatedid she get buffed, Aenslaed?
03:42.46Aenslaedall 3 debuffs look the same
03:42.53Aenslaedabyssichate: a bunch of 'exploits' got fixed
03:42.57Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: its a yell now? do you have 'gruul engaged' on engage
03:43.20abyssichateokei
03:43.29Aenslaedshe arc missiles 360 again, aids can't be gotten rid of
03:43.41ZealotOnAStickI ran in behind the MT to plant an imp . . . if I missed it, I dunno what to tell you.  I didn't run combat log, thought those 2 would suffice.
03:43.51abyssichatethat's bad
03:43.54Aenslaedbut the main thing is the aids bouncing onto people who rely on the skull
03:44.22Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: no its there, im jsut wondering did you get the primary bars with a gruul engaged message
03:44.22Aenslaedso an optional bigwigs that puts a gigantic graphic on your screen when you got aids or have the aids dot
03:44.25Killmorethe bigwigs timer for gruul is fucking acurate ! omg :P
03:44.28Killmorehe do the shatter maybe 2-3 sec after the end of the "cooldown" timer
03:44.38ZealotOnAStickI got the bars and stuff.  I don't recall if I got the engaged one or not.
03:44.57Aenslaedgod, I dont even remember the name of the bouncing debuff. Guild just calls it Space AIDS on vent. -_-
03:45.13ZealotOnAStickThey were just very inaccurate now, almost to being totally pointless.  I think it's a small enough change that adds up as the fight goes on to get worse and worse.
03:46.09Funkeh`don't you love blizz
03:46.32ZealotOnAStickI'd also really love an option to silence NPCs.
03:46.46ZealotOnAStickHe's got a lot of vocal things he plays now, and all these gay grunts.
03:46.52ZealotOnAStickreally irritating.
03:48.12Funkeh`random yells ftl
03:48.44Funkeh`although scurry might be related to ground slam
03:48.44Funkeh`stay = shatter
03:48.49Funkeh`no more/die = player death
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03:49.23XuerianWho took my idChatLegacy :(
03:49.43vhaarrXuerian: It's SimpleChatMods now.
03:49.50Xuerianvhaarr: =O
03:50.14kenlyricnice, cellular is eating my whispers.
03:50.52CIA-2303funkydude * r36517 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Gruul: engage message is a yell not a say anymore
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03:52.54VelkynIf someone could help me out for a moment:  Recently whenever I run the ace auto-updater it tells me that none of the mods I am running have public versions and then does not update them...
03:52.55VelkynAnyone able to explain to me?
03:52.55abyssichateDid you download the new WAU?
03:52.58abyssichateI think that it fixes the issue
03:53.02Velkyn*hmm*  I wonder how new, let me try this.
03:53.13abyssichatehttp://downloads.sourceforge.net/wowaceupdater/WowAceUpdater-1.8.23-bin.zip?modtime=1179846702&big_mirror=0
03:55.00vhaarrXuerian: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6195.0;topicseen
03:55.32CIA-2303nevcairiel * r36518 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: change back to the old way of managing stances and modifiers, allowing alot more flexibility until the new system is perfect
03:55.33kenlyricVelkyn: for reference, there has been two new WAU builds each day for hte past week. At least :)
03:55.43Xuerianvhaarr: Yeah... Was reported yesterday, but I didn't have the test client installed. Gonna log on my fake raid and test it out. Thanks for pointing it out.
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03:56.48theoddone33blizzard are cheaters
03:56.54theoddone33I'm hoping they add more stuff for scryer/aldor rep
03:57.03mjcsanity2 throwing event errors for me :P
03:57.07theoddone33instead they add a vender who makes you get exalted with 2 more factions before you can even see what he sells
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03:58.55ZealotOnAStickhurtful strike seems to work on the 3rd highest aggro in melee range now as well, rather than second.
03:59.20Angry_DwarfI thought it was like rampage?
03:59.55Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: no offense, but i don't see much inacuracy ground slma wise in that log, it sems 2-10 seconds after the message
03:59.57Realityzealot: is that confirmed? we're doing gruul now and he's gibbed me like 4 times
04:00.32ZealotOnAStickthat's the concensus we got out of it our 3 attempts.  I'm not saying that's definite.  Maybe it's a randomized thing per instance or something.
04:01.04kenlyrictheoddone33: which faction are you talking about?
04:01.17ZealotOnAStickBoth silence and ground slam started slightly off, then got worse and worse as we went on.
04:01.29Funkeh`hmm
04:01.30ZealotOnAStickreverberation, or whatever.
04:01.53theoddone33kenlyric: this guy in scryer bank sells flasks if you're exalted with cenex, scryer, and shattrath
04:01.58theoddone33I assume the aldor one has the same
04:02.15theoddone33they're like normal flasks except can only be used in instances
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04:02.33ZealotOnAStickthose logs were unfortunately our briefest attempt.
04:02.38ZealotOnAStickMT died really early on.
04:02.45ZealotOnAStickthe previous one we got to 17 grows.
04:02.47Funkeh`:(
04:02.58nymbiaFunkeh`: gruul's silence cooldown is about 15 seconds shorter now
04:03.19Funkeh`shorter? i have logs of it happening nearly 15 seconds after the message
04:03.21ZealotOnAStickhe also seems to freaking cave-in a lot, and I got hit by stacked double cave-ins overlapping.
04:03.38nymbiaFunkeh`: yup, it just went off with 13 seconds left on the bar
04:03.49Funkeh`christ
04:03.57nymbiaFunkeh`: fewer silences per fight, though
04:04.00Aenslaedyeah, gruul is aiming his hurtful at the 3rd melee on threat
04:04.03nymbiaits just a lot more random
04:04.13nymbiayeah we just took 3 attempts to kill the fucker
04:04.17Funkeh`im pondering jsut removing it
04:05.02Aenslaedbut, who can I talk to with getting a specific boss mod for High Astromancer Solarian?
04:05.28nymbiayou direct sexual favors in Funkeh` 's direction
04:05.30Aenslaedscans debuffs and 3 color red dot similar to the old c'thun warner
04:05.43Aenslaederr, 3 color round dot
04:06.11Funkeh`Aenslaed: whats wrong wiht the current boss mod?
04:06.14vhaarrAenslaed: Write a detailed post on the forum.
04:06.28AenslaedFunkeh`: there is no mod for this boss like this
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04:12.27Xuerianyay for ghost-enabling addons.
04:12.27hyperChipmunkTuller: have a friend asking about stance options in bongos; says they're gone?
04:12.40TullerhyperChipmunk: tell him to right click his bar :P
04:12.55hyperChipmunk"oh i see"
04:12.57hyperChipmunk"oh!"
04:13.01hyperChipmunk"oh that solves that"
04:13.05hyperChipmunk"very weird though"
04:13.22hyperChipmunkhe says thanks
04:14.32TullerhyperChipmunk: say np
04:14.54hyperChipmunkanother happy mod moment <3
04:15.00XuerianTuller: Woot, integrated options :D
04:15.17NightHawkTheSaneis vindication up yet?
04:15.18hyperChipmunkbut you might consider exposing that a little better
04:15.19WobworkXuerian: It's a long bar?
04:15.27hyperChipmunkhe's by no means a clueless newbie
04:15.29XuerianWobwork: As long as you want it to be.
04:15.35hyperChipmunkand he was frustrated as all heck
04:16.54CIA-2303funkydude * r36519 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua:
04:16.54CIA-23BigWigs: SC/Leotheras:
04:16.54CIA-23- first demon phase is now 60 seconds after engage
04:16.54CIA-23- apparently whirlwind is off, need transcripts/bigwigs_debugger logs
04:17.39RealityZealot: confirmed that he's striking the third aggro target
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04:17.59Realityannoying as hell too, we had a DPS heavy raid and got splattered
04:18.04Realityhaving to relearn the fight
04:19.19theoddone33new questlines so camped
04:19.21theoddone33screw it
04:19.25theoddone33I can wait 2 days
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04:20.29NightHawkTheSaneyeah, thats bound to happen
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04:20.38theoddone33sweet bartender completely reset my button positions, heh
04:21.37CIA-2303funkydude * r36520 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua:
04:21.37CIA-23BigWigs: SC/Lurker:
04:21.37CIA-23- preparation for spout fix, apprently theres an emote now, need transcriptor/bigwigs_debugger logs
04:21.41CIA-2303nayala * r36521 10Baggins_ItemRack/Baggins_ItemRack.toc: Baggins_ItemRack: toc 20100
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04:22.39CIA-2303nayala * r36523 10Baggins_Usable/Baggins_Usable.toc: Baggins_Usable: toc 20100
04:23.19Kaeltenhows it going guys
04:23.41Funkeh`hey
04:23.46NightHawkTheSaneTuller: the bongos minimap button seems.. uh.. spastic.. when i try moving it ;)
04:23.53Kaeltensite seems to be doing pretty well so far :)
04:23.56TullerNightHawkTheSane: yeah I'm aware
04:24.05NightHawkTheSanek, cool
04:24.27vhaarrhm
04:24.33vhaarrseems fubar icons have the same problem
04:24.35vhaarrckknight: you seen this?
04:24.47vhaarrckknight: Try attaching a FBP to the minimap and move the icon around.
04:25.04Wobworkdue to the new minimap changes/
04:25.08tsigovhaarr: wonder if it has anything to do with the new rotating map?
04:25.18vhaarrtsigo: could be
04:25.26NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: i dont see it happening with any of my fubar plugins
04:25.27ckknightvhaarr: I see no issue
04:25.34vhaarrweird
04:25.38ckknightgranted, I use simpleMinimap
04:25.41NightHawkTheSanesame
04:25.52vhaarrme too
04:26.30CIA-2303xuerian * r36524 10XLootGroup/XLootGroup.lua: XLootGroup: Forced SetAlpha(1) on roll buttons. Blizzard's frame fader code has changed.
04:27.15NightHawkTheSaneman, that new shaman blue never ceases to freak me out. it's really really blue.
04:27.35vhaarrlol
04:27.39Wobworkhehe
04:27.57*** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater also available through the old updaters | Blue is the new blue.
04:28.09NightHawkTheSanehaha
04:29.11theoddone33I love itemmagic so much
04:29.18theoddone33how else would I be able to dressing room the new tabard???
04:30.02Garoun|Loupanastill trying to figure out what the 'Update' option is in the options menu
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04:33.15nymbiackknight: versionchecker replies from some people are coming in standard whispers, do they just have out of date acecomm?
04:33.26ckknightyes.
04:33.31ckknightthey do.
04:33.34nymbiaok, thanks :)
04:33.48ckknightby out of date, that's like a month and a half out of date.
04:33.56ckknightit was one of the first things I changed.
04:33.57Wobworkwoo
04:34.05nymbiai'm not suprised, my guild's kinda bad at updating shit ;)
04:34.08Wobworkso acecomm whisper communication no longer uses whisper =)
04:34.21ckknightit uses addon whisper
04:34.31ckknightalright, I'm gonna remove all WoW 2.0 compat stuff, now that the European servers are down.
04:34.35Wobworkwhich is more of a designation than an actual whisper
04:34.40Wobwork(right?)
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04:34.48ckknightit's all packets.
04:35.00WobworkContents may settle in transit?
04:35.10nymbiaoh yeah, i've still got some of that crap sitting around
04:35.34WobworkJust don't want HeyFu to record noteshare spam anymoer
04:37.57CIA-2303ckknight * r36525 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - remove WoW 2.0 compat.
04:38.32Sparhawkeanyone else having the problem with AG where your last target stays stuck on your screen when you zone out of someplace, but it's the old blizzard target f rame?
04:39.14CIA-2303ckknight * r36526 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua): Cartographer - remove WoW 2.0 compat.
04:39.16Funkeh`ill tage a guess
04:39.21Funkeh`update AutoBar?
04:40.42nymbiackknight: using the top-right x to close the world map instead of the hotkey causes weirdness in the new layering
04:40.45tsigoSparhawke: people in my guild are getting that with the *default* UI
04:40.50ckknightnymbia: I don't believe you.
04:40.58ckknightnymbia: especially seeing as I fixed that.
04:41.16Funkeh`YEAH NYMBIA
04:41.18Funkeh`WTF
04:41.20NightHawkTheSanewoah, gotw has a new icon
04:41.31Diaoit does?
04:41.32nymbiackknight: ah, sorry;)
04:41.32Diaofinally?
04:41.35Diaofinalllllllllly
04:41.39Funkeh`lol
04:41.49Garoun|Loupanagrr, surprised blizz didn't give an option to turn off guild names on tooltip
04:42.32Diaowho uses default tooltip anymore :P
04:42.38Garoun|LoupanaI use tinytip
04:42.59hyperChipmunkFunkeh`: did you delete CommandHistory?
04:43.15Funkeh`not that i recall
04:43.21Funkeh`but anyway i don't delete mods
04:43.29hyperChipmunkyou know what i mean
04:43.40Funkeh`yeah well, not that i recall
04:43.49hyperChipmunkthen why is it gizzone!
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04:44.21Funkeh`:s
04:44.39NightHawkTheSaneDiao:  http://www.asylumsw.com/misc/gotw_icon.png
04:44.45CIA-2303funkydude * r36527 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps: re-add old un-compressed Gruul's lair
04:44.55Funkeh`rofl
04:45.05Diaowoah
04:45.07Diaolooks cool
04:45.24CIA-2303ckknight * r36528 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - remove WoW 2.0 compat.
04:45.43Diaowhat buff is that NightHawkTheSane
04:45.45Diaothe second one
04:45.47Diaowith 10 stacks
04:46.00NightHawkTheSaneEarth Shield
04:46.02Diaoah
04:46.07Diaonever had a resto shaman heal me before
04:46.31Diaois that buffalo2
04:47.18NightHawkTheSaneIt's buffalo yeah.. tehre's a buffalo2?
04:47.18Diaooh
04:47.18Diaoi thought there was
04:47.18Diaoi remember reading about it on forums
04:47.19Diaocan you change the border with buffalo?
04:47.20Diaoo_O
04:47.21NightHawkTheSaneI dont think so
04:47.30Diaooh.. is that how it looks by default?
04:47.30NightHawkTheSaneI don't remember, I havn't looked at the options in ages
04:47.37NightHawkTheSanemore or less, yeah
04:47.45Diaoah k
04:47.49CIA-2303nymbia * r36529 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
04:47.49CIA-23Manufac:
04:47.49CIA-23- Remove 2.0 linking method.
04:47.51NightHawkTheSanePositioning/alignment is probably different, though
04:48.09NightHawkTheSanehm.. there -is- a buffalo2 on files.wowace.net
04:48.14Diaoanyway yeah
04:48.18Diaoi heard someone talking about buffalo2 the other day
04:48.21Diaoso i thought that might be it
04:48.26CIA-2303nymbia * r36530 10Quartz/Buff/Buff.lua:
04:48.26CIA-23Quartz_Buff:
04:48.26CIA-23- Remove 2.0 compat
04:48.44Diaohttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6117.0
04:48.45Diaothat too
04:49.30NightHawkTheSaneinterseting
04:49.37NightHawkTheSanes/se/es/
04:50.09Diaoo_O
04:50.54Diaoso the s/ makes purl switch the next 2 arguments?
04:50.59Diaoor something
04:51.09ckknightyou're an asshole, Diao
04:51.16ckknights/n asshole/ fine gentleman/
04:51.28Diaolol
04:51.35Diaoi see
04:51.38CIA-2303funkydude * r36531 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: whirlwind back to 12 seconds
04:51.58WobworkHe loves that example
04:52.01Xuerian~msbt
04:52.35purli guess msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html
04:52.41CIA-2303totalpackage * r36532 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):
04:52.41CIA-23Cellular
04:52.41CIA-23- revert back to using global args for CHAT_MSG_WHISPER() to fix compat issues with SpamSentry
04:52.42CIA-23- fix "this" error with Shift-Delete button
04:52.57CIA-2303nymbia * r36533 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
04:52.57CIA-23PT3Bar:
04:52.57CIA-23- Use itemids as frame attributes instead of names, since this is supported in 2.1.
04:53.01NightHawkTheSaneDiao: lol, it's standard perl-style substitution. s/x/y/ means look for the first occurrence of x and replace it with y.
04:53.39Diaooh
04:53.47Diaonever coded in perl before
04:53.52Wobworknot perl
04:53.53Wobworked maybe
04:54.02Wobworksed?
04:54.03NightHawkTheSanetrue, its probably older than perl
04:54.08CIA-2303ckknight * r36534 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer - remove WoW 2.0 compat.
04:54.27NightHawkTheSanenot sure if ed has it, sed certainly, vi implements a version of it as well
04:54.56CIA-2303ckknight * r36535 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - remove WoW 2.0 compat.
04:55.11CIA-2303ckknight * r36536 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove WoW 2.0 compat.
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04:55.28vhaarred had the first rx impl, afaik
04:55.37vhaarrg/re/p
04:56.40CIA-2303ckknight * r36537 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - remove WoW 2.0 compat.
04:57.44CIA-2303ckknight * r36538 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - remove WoW 2.0 compat
04:58.19NifeGlory has an error on line 2350 attempt to index local 's'
04:59.59mjcbongos updated yet?
05:00.06Laricyepa
05:00.13Laricbongos2 1.0 is out
05:00.34Larichttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/dl.php?id=4744
05:00.49ckknightbongos2 1.0?
05:00.50ckknightwtf?
05:00.52CIA-2303ckknight * r36539 10Ace2/ (AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua): Ace2 - remove WoW 2.0 compat.
05:01.00ckknightwho came up with such a piss-poor versioning system?
05:01.24Larictuller
05:01.50TullerLaric: are you a paladin by chance?
05:06.05Tullerckknight: bongos2 so people would delete and install, 1.0 because its 1.0 :)
05:06.05Wobwork"Oh, I just fell into this paladinning business..."
05:06.05ckknightokay, so why not Bongos 2.0?
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05:06.06Tullerckknight: no reason
05:06.07ZealotOnAStickYay.  Up on WoWI?
05:06.07ckknightI still call it a piss-poor versioning system. It should be Bongos 2.0, not Bongos2 1.0
05:06.07Xuerianaforementioned bongos2 isn't saving it's minimap button setting >_>
05:06.07ckknightpeople will get confused and think it's Bongos21.0, trust me
05:06.07mjcbongos2 final
05:06.07mjc:P
05:06.07nymbiabongos version 21?  sign me up! ;)
05:06.18Tullerckknight: well, the official title is Bongos2: Secret of the Ooze :)
05:06.19nymbiahaha
05:06.20ZealotOnAStickHay, where can I get Bongos21 version 0 I heard about?
05:06.23ckknightso why 1.0?
05:06.32ZealotOnAStickB2SotO.
05:06.34ZealotOnAStickI like it.
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05:06.49Tullerckknight: because I reset my versioning, I was using date before
05:07.01ckknightso why not Bongos 2.0?
05:07.14Tullerckknight: because then I would not have changed the folder name :)
05:07.21ckknightyes you would've.
05:07.22mjcnoob
05:07.27ckknightBongos2 is the folder name
05:07.32ckknighttitle is Bongos 2.0
05:07.39ckknightor Bongos2: Secret of the Ooze
05:07.41ckknightversion is 2.0
05:08.28Tullerckknight: I'm aware it could be better, I noticed it on the first zips
05:08.54ckknighteither way, no banana for you.
05:09.08LaricTuller: Nope not got a pally named laric.. laric is my old old warrior
05:09.17ckknight<--- pally
05:09.22TullerLaric: I asked mainly because I thought you had an issue :)
05:09.32WobworkBongos 2: Now We're Really Drumming
05:09.34ZealotOnAStickI think this is one of the stupider discussions I've witnessed recently.
05:09.56XuerianBongos 2: The undying minimap button!
05:09.59WobworkBongos 2: We've Got Rhythmn
05:10.02ckknightdon't make me come out with ZealotOnAStick 2.0
05:10.02ZealotOnAStickBongos^2
05:10.21WobworkBongos 2: Bongo Harder
05:11.15Larictuller is rightclick selfcast back in v2?
05:11.25TullerLaric: yes
05:11.31Laricthank you
05:11.43Laricnow I can shoot bar3
05:13.12ZealotOnAStickJust so I know ahead of time: when I upgrade to Bongos2 1.0, will I lose my settings from the one I got off your google code earlier?
05:13.16ckknighthey Tuller
05:13.18ckknightpants.
05:13.24Tullerckknight: indeed
05:13.32ckknightI'm glad we agree
05:13.36ZealotOnAStickAnyone read Ctrl-Alt-Del today?
05:13.41ckknightI did
05:14.38Wobworklink?
05:14.51TullerZealotOnAStick: 0.9 updates to 1.0 without a reset
05:14.54Xuerianhttp://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php
05:14.55CIA-2303funkydude * r36540 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: add some security against some sporadic phase changes until we can find out more
05:14.56ZealotOnAStickYay.
05:18.05Funkeh`imo more people should test these already killed bosses on PTr!
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05:24.15CIA-2303funkydude * r36541 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism.toc: Cartographer_Herbalism: toc 20100
05:24.23CIA-2303funkydude * r36542 10Cartographer_Mining/Cartographer_Mining.toc: Cartographer_Mining: toc 20100
05:25.05hyperChipmunkTuller: still around?
05:25.12TullerhyperChipmunk: yes
05:25.20hyperChipmunkalt-selfcast setting?
05:25.58TullerhyperChipmunk: the alt key setting not working will be fixed in the next update
05:26.00art3mishrm
05:26.14art3miswhats casueing buff timers to appear attached to metahud now?
05:26.16hyperChipmunkexcellent, thanks =)
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05:27.59Peoiiwelp, only 1 addon causing grief atm.  not bad.
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05:32.21Funkeh`what one is that
05:32.30PeoiiPhanxchat
05:32.44Funkeh`nvm then
05:33.17PeoiiI've considered just going back to prat and disabling a ton of stuff I never use.
05:33.36hyperChipmunkthat's the point of prat, i think =)
05:33.42Aenslaedwhich forum should I post in to request new bigwigs features?
05:33.49hyperChipmunki actually disable everything and just enable the stuff i use
05:33.57Aenslaedjust addons/ideas or in the bigwigs thread?
05:34.04Peoiiaye, good idea Hyper.
05:34.18Silviu-well SimpleChatMods suit my needs
05:34.18Silviu-;)
05:34.44Funkeh`ok
05:34.47Funkeh`gonna take a break
05:34.49Funkeh`later all
05:34.51hyperChipmunkyour mom suits MY needs
05:34.55hyperChipmunkFunkeh`: weakling
05:34.57Silviu-fu
05:34.59Silviu-;)
05:35.04Funkeh`pfft
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05:39.11hyperChipmunkman...my map is so...empty, without mining nodes
05:39.49[A]v[P]cartographer not working?
05:39.58hyperChipmunki'm not sure i can handle this lonliness
05:40.02hyperChipmunkno, they moved all the nodes
05:40.04hyperChipmunkwell
05:40.06hyperChipmunkmost of them
05:40.16hyperChipmunkenough to make the old data do more harm than good
05:40.24[A]v[P]hmm did they move herbs as well?
05:40.32hyperChipmunkdunno
05:40.51hyperChipmunki don't think it was mentioned in the patch
05:40.55rubikdoes bartender3 switch actionbars on stance switch in combat yet?
05:40.58hyperChipmunkbut that does'nt guarantee anything
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05:41.06NimbleRabityes
05:41.17NimbleRabitupdate both bt3 and autobar
05:41.22rubikk.. thx.. ditching bongos then
05:41.31Bam__nymbia: ping :)
05:41.41rubik(don't use autobar so i'm ok there.. will it conflict with PT3Bar?)
05:41.57[A]v[P]why it should?
05:42.26hyperChipmunkit's like autobar i think
05:42.51rubikyeah, that's why i asked, sorry
05:45.12AenslaedWhich forum should I make a request for bigwigs functionality?
05:45.13nymbiaBam__: hey
05:45.26hyperChipmunkAenslaed: spit it out here, first
05:45.44Bam__nymbia: hey.. have you managed too get SetAttribute("item", itemId) to work with an item id?
05:46.13hyperChipmunkyou'll get a good idea of whether there's a chance it can/will be included
05:46.34AenslaedhyperChipmunk: for High Astromancer Solarian in The Eye
05:47.29Aenslaedhave a red dot like C'thun warner (not wowace)
05:47.29hyperChipmunkmodule request or specific feature?
05:47.54hyperChipmunkping someone who works on BigWigs
05:48.02hyperChipmunk[Ammoo]: *ping*
05:48.24hyperChipmunkvhaarr: *ping*
05:48.26Aenslaedwith 3 states of color, red, yellow and green. Green represents no debuffs besides the periodic stacking debuff. Yellow means you have Wrath of Solarian debuff (the 40second one), and Red means you have one or more Wrath of Solarian 8second debuffs
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05:49.33AenslaedRed means you got Space AIDS and are contagious
05:49.33hyperChipmunkyum
05:49.33Aenslaedyellow means you had it and are recovering, green means no problem at all
05:49.33hyperChipmunkmaybe you shouldn't have unprotected sex with belfs
05:49.41hyperChipmunkthen you wouldn't need a mod
05:50.05hyperChipmunk[Khorium Khondom]
05:50.06NightHawkTheSane.. but.. they're so -hawt-
05:50.16NightHawkTheSaneand the females are nice looking too.
05:50.22hyperChipmunkO_o
05:50.23nymbiaBam__: yeah i switched PT3Bar to use that method
05:50.33hyperChipmunkthat's no reason not to use protection though
05:50.59NifeWho is in charge of the GLory Lib ? Its got a bug in it that goes crazy in the battlegrounds
05:51.16hyperChipmunkckknight is
05:51.24hyperChipmunkhm
05:51.30hyperChipmunkactually, think someone else took it over
05:51.30ckknightantipants
05:51.45hyperChipmunkbut you should bug him, anyway; it's good entertainment for us
05:52.07Bam__nymbia: oh and it works? I have only looked at Blizzard's code.. it just looks like it will end up calling UseInventoryItem(itemid)
05:52.36hyperChipmunkoh
05:52.43hyperChipmunkthat's one funkeh moved to tags
05:53.10hyperChipmunkso you probably didn't get it updated, since the externals link is borked
05:53.14nymbiaBam__: hmm.. you're right, it breaks
05:53.22nymbiarofl
05:53.32Bam__yea :(
05:53.34AenslaedhyperChipmunk: so who or where should I ask for this feature?
05:53.42hyperChipmunkAenslaed: vhaarr or [Ammoo]
05:53.47Aenslaedok
05:53.52Bam__cant test yet but I was impatient and ran the code offline lol
05:54.01NightHawkTheSanenymbia: you're my hero, as much as any gnome could be anyone's hero.
05:54.22hyperChipmunkhm
05:54.51hyperChipmunkactually, vhaarr or Funkeh`
05:55.53hyperChipmunkif you look at the BigWigs_TheEye.toc, it lists the people who work on that module
05:57.11AenslaedhyperChipmunk: ok
05:58.14Bam__nymbia: it looks to me like a bug in SecureCmdItemParse
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05:59.23hyperChipmunkwtf is this giant...uh, ogregy
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05:59.39Neeblernymbia, I'm requesting to put in a "test" feature for the Buff bars in Quartz
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06:03.54nymbiaBam__: yeah i'm making a post on the ui forums right now
06:03.57nymbiaNeebler: ok
06:04.55Bam__nymbia: cool
06:05.09Bam__or one ccould bother Iriel :P
06:05.14smoke_nymbia, how does the global cooldown module work for quartz?
06:05.14nymbiaBam__: it works with item links like it should
06:05.40Bam__nymbia: oh nice... is that because UseItemByName works with links?
06:06.02Bam__because I think that's what it ends up calling
06:06.03CIA-2303arcuss * r36543 10HunterAEP/HunterAEP.toc:
06:06.03CIA-23HunterAEP:
06:06.03CIA-23-Updating toc for patch
06:06.07nymbiasmoke_: it checks cooldowns on the given spells in the spellbook in response to the actionbar cooldown update events
06:08.08smoke_so only certain spells will show the global cooldown blink?
06:08.13smoke_or whatever animation it is?
06:08.35smoke_i dont get the primary spell/back up spell
06:08.46smoke_i'm a fire mage, what would be my primary and backup spells?
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06:08.51hyperChipmunkTuller: one more thing =) this one's a bug report from me, been annoying me for the past few weeks
06:09.01TullerhyperChipmunk: ?
06:09.02hyperChipmunkOmniCC\main.lua:238: <unnamed>:SetText(): Font not set
06:09.03hyperChipmunkOmniCC\main.lua:238: in function <Interface\AddOns\OmniCC\main.lua:228>
06:09.14TullerhyperChipmunk: do /omnicc reset ? :)
06:10.21hyperChipmunkwtf
06:10.21vhaarrAenslaed: sup
06:10.21hyperChipmunkand lose my one setting!?!
06:10.22vhaarrah, pm
06:10.22TullerhyperChipmunk: alternatively, reset the font
06:10.22Kaeltenanyone able to recommend a good wall mount for a 42" lcd?
06:10.22hyperChipmunktoo late!
06:10.22Bam__:O
06:10.28KaeltenI'm wanting to get one that can tilt and articulate
06:10.30hyperChipmunkand is it an omnicc thing or a bartender thing that all my numbers are really transparent?
06:10.44TullerhyperChipmunk: probably bartender
06:10.53nymbiaBam__: LOL
06:10.58hyperChipmunkohh
06:11.02hyperChipmunkn/m it's that new alpha thing
06:11.04Bam__darn.. and I was proud of my 24" :D
06:11.06hyperChipmunkdrats
06:11.18hyperChipmunkKaelten: wtf
06:11.33Bam__erm... 24" screen :P
06:11.34nymbiaBam__: it works if you force the match on line 1332 to fail with a tailing space
06:11.47Bam__nymbia: LOL
06:11.52Kaeltenlol
06:12.01hyperChipmunkKaelten: i hope that was a typo
06:12.10Bam__nymbia: that's a pretty good way to tell them there is a slight bug :P
06:13.12Kaeltenhrm?
06:13.19hyperChipmunkyou bought a 42" lcd?
06:13.38hyperChipmunkor are you just dyslexic
06:14.49smoke_will canabalize work for the global coodlwon thing nymb?
06:15.38nymbiaBam__: indeed
06:15.46nymbiasmoke_: it should, yeah
06:16.26NightHawkTheSaneonly if it's affected by the GCD. :P
06:17.14Diao42" lcd tv?
06:20.34KaeltenI'm looking at a 42
06:22.54sylvanaarKaelten did you need something?
06:24.33nymbiahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105751019&sid=1
06:24.57Bam__good stuff :P
06:25.30sylvanaar42 - i just got a 24.
06:26.07Bam__nymbia: do you think it's fully intended that UseItemByName accepts an itemid?
06:26.12nymbiasure
06:26.42Bam__cool
06:26.43nymbiaUseItemByName was pretty widely used and greatly extended before they locked it down
06:28.01Bam__ok... I suppose it accepts the same as GetItemInfo then
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06:29.54CIA-2303nymbia * r36544 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
06:29.54CIA-23PT3Bar:
06:29.54CIA-23- Hack to get around blizzard's sloppy coding.
06:29.54CIA-23- frame:SetAttribute('item', itemid) <-- bad.
06:29.54CIA-23- frame:SetAttribute('item', itemid..' ') <-- good...?
06:29.54CIA-23- see http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105751019
06:30.19hyperChipmunklol
06:30.26Bam__I'd say "ugly" not "good" :D
06:30.29hyperChipmunknymbia: you sound very confident about your fix
06:31.07hyperChipmunkif it isn't not broken, don't not fix it
06:31.24nymbiahyperChipmunk: i am. it's a superflous function call that's not needed when you're using an item id or item link, just need to trick it into not erroring
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06:32.23Bam__hmm.. that means: if it is broken, do fix it? :D
06:33.03AKXWhat's the newest TOC now then?
06:33.04hyperChipmunkseems like good advice to me
06:33.07CIA-2303mcc * r36545 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/SkillsPlusFuLocals-zhTW.lua:
06:33.07CIA-23FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
06:33.07CIA-23-modify wrong translation about Spellcloth in Tradition Chinese translation.
06:33.08hyperChipmunk20100
06:33.12AKXThanki.
06:33.29AKXEuropean patch hell day. \o/
06:33.57Bam__AKX: any servers up yet?
06:33.59hyperChipmunkgonna take some time to get used to the fact that i have a real heal for my pet now
06:34.05hyperChipmunki don't know how to use real heals
06:34.09NightHawkTheSaneyeah its kinda hot.
06:34.15AKXBam__, just patching now. No idea.
06:34.33hyperChipmunkmy pet was at 25% by the time i thought to heal
06:34.34hyperChipmunk=P
06:35.09Bam__AKX: probably not yet... they have 2.5 hours still :)
06:35.28AKXBam__, that means "coffee break for Blizzard".
06:35.35Bam__hehe
06:35.54Laricbah they never ever have the servers up on time after a patch. they always says 03:00-11:00 and they never are up on time
06:36.12Bam__it happens they are up earlier though
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06:36.31[A]v[P]just hope they are up before raiding time :p
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06:36.39Laricnever on a patch day
06:36.51[A]v[P]exactly thats why i said hope
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06:37.07Icerothsomeone send me a PM when euro servers are starting to come online so i know when to leave work :p
06:37.31Bam__maybe... last time it happened, there were 2 Wednesdays in a week :D
06:37.33Icerothand slouken just replied to the item id thread
06:38.18Bam__bah he is not admitting it's a bug really :P
06:38.52Wobworkanyone got a screenshot of Egbert?
06:39.12WobworkPeanut is cute and Willy is amusing
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06:39.31sbumhh - my update seems to be broken, known bug? :o
06:39.54Wobworkomg
06:39.57Wobworkso adorable
06:40.00Bam__broken how?
06:40.03Wobworkhttp://img407.imageshack.us/img407/369/egbertyp4.jpg
06:40.03sbubnupdate tells me wow.exe not found (dl'ed via bg downloader)
06:40.14hyperChipmunkawwww
06:40.22NightHawkTheSaneoh yeah, its childrens week isn't it.
06:40.27hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/babeholder.gif
06:40.30sbuyay
06:40.31hyperChipmunkis that one?
06:40.33sbuwtb
06:40.42Bam__ehh that one is not as cute lol
06:40.51vhaarregbert wtf?!
06:40.52Lariciceroth link to sloukens reply plx
06:40.59vhaarrWobwork: give!
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06:41.10WobworkPeanut and Willy are both on wowhead if you want to look
06:41.12Fisker--*join #wowwiki
06:41.16Fisker--oh noes
06:41.18WobworkWilly is a minibeholder =)
06:41.22vhaarrWobwork: Where do you get these pets?
06:41.24CIA-2303nymbia * r36546 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
06:41.24CIA-23PT3Bar:
06:41.24CIA-23- :SetAttribute('item', 'item:'..itemid) was apparently the intended behavior. >.<
06:41.28WobworkChildren's week =)
06:41.29hyperChipmunkaha!
06:41.32Fisker--btw sylvanaar you there?
06:41.38Wobworkand Peanut is a tiny elekk
06:41.46vhaarraww how cwute
06:41.51NightHawkTheSaneawesome
06:41.52hyperChipmunkmy gf is gonna flip
06:41.57sbuahh i got the problem
06:42.00WobworkOne Eyed Willy =)
06:42.05hyperChipmunkyea
06:42.06hyperChipmunklol
06:42.08IcerothLaric, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105751019&sid=1
06:42.12sbui didnt install wow but just copy folder to another machine
06:42.21hyperChipmunki can't believe they got away with that
06:42.33sbucould anyone plz pastey me wow registry entries? :o
06:42.39theoddone33they got away with mr. wiggles
06:42.49sbu<3 mr wiggles
06:43.21Bam__nymbia: I suppose Slouken is right... it just wasn't clear what the intended behaviour was supposed to be
06:43.26theoddone33this time I think I'm getting speedy
06:43.47nymbiaBam__: yeah, that should've been in the 2.1 changes post.  i poked iriel to add it
06:44.23sbuhttp://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10967 <-- pet rewards
06:45.11sbuuhm - i could really use that wow registry entries, anyone? please :o
06:45.17hyperChipmunkwhat's a registry?
06:46.01sbuuhm - some strange place in ms windows
06:46.11Fisker--i got em
06:46.28Fisker--funny story as i just made them myself 30 minutes ago because i had reinstalled myself
06:46.34Fisker--just gonna upload it
06:46.50sbuheh, cool, thanks :)
06:47.13Bam__maybe this is old news... but was new to me... there is an undocumented regex pattern in Lua: http://lua-users.org/wiki/FrontierPattern
06:47.38sbuwell, its much easier to copy your wow folder - windows reinstall is ok, but wow reinstall + patching. bah :/
06:47.51Fisker--http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/wow2.1/
06:47.55Fisker--wow.reg
06:48.00sbuuhm, fruityloots not needed anymore?
06:48.00Fisker--remember to change it to the proper folders
06:48.05sbuyeah sure, thanks
06:48.10Icerothi didn't do any reinstalling when i changed to vista, wow worked from the old location just fine :o
06:48.29sbuIceroth: fresh vista install?
06:48.34Icerothye
06:48.39sbuso you dont have registry entries?
06:48.44sbuand you already have 2.1? :p
06:49.01Icerothwell i suppose it generated the necassary stuff when i ran it
06:49.03Fisker--so what's the coolest pet of the new ones?
06:49.07Icerothand 2.1 installed just fine this morning
06:49.12hyperChipmunkFisker--: http://69.14.77.214/babeholder.gif
06:49.17hyperChipmunkmy favorite
06:49.28Icerothcan't check the registry now though, i'm at the office
06:49.32Fisker--I believe it does try to generate entries when WoW is run
06:49.36Bam__looks like something from Star Wars :D
06:49.55[A]v[P]thats an ugly pet
06:50.02hyperChipmunkaww
06:50.10hyperChipmunkit can't help it that it's ugly
06:50.12hyperChipmunklook
06:50.15hyperChipmunkit has a tooth
06:50.18hyperChipmunkaww
06:50.28Bam__two actually
06:50.34hyperChipmunkpoor guy; all the other demons probably pick on him
06:50.49hyperChipmunk"one-eye! one-eye! one-eye!"
06:51.04Icerothminiature version of the fuckers in arcatraz
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06:51.13Bam__and then they poke him in the eye
06:51.18Icerothdoes it shoot red beam too?
06:51.28sbuFisker-: patching :)
06:54.26Fisker--you're talking to my clone!
06:54.26sbuso? :o
06:54.27sbuhe's going to kill me now? :/
06:54.27Fisker--yeah
06:54.29WobworkI like Egbert
06:54.29WobworkCause he goes skitzo
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06:54.29WobworkAlthough, if he said "meepmeep" it'd be perfect
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06:56.51hyperChipmunknymbia: ClassTimer sux
06:57.26hyperChipmunkit does'nt get my traps
06:57.30nymbiahyperChipmunk: whats it do?
06:58.12hyperChipmunkit doesn't
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06:58.57hyperChipmunkor more accurately, it does bupkis
06:58.59nymbiadoes it filter the debuffs it displays?  or does UnitBuff not give you the duration on traps?
06:59.20hyperChipmunki get the little spinnything on pitbull
06:59.21hyperChipmunkbut no bar
06:59.55hyperChipmunkand one of my stings disappeared after another debuff was applied
07:00.22hyperChipmunknot sure exact circumstances on that one, but the buff was clearly still there and the bar did activate for the first few seconds
07:01.12nymbiahyperChipmunk: i dunno, bug ominous ;p
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07:01.24hyperChipmunkhe's not here
07:01.31hyperChipmunkso i'm bugging you
07:01.41nymbiamine works ;)
07:01.52WobworkYou're such a bugger, hyper =)
07:01.53hyperChipmunkhunter?
07:01.55hyperChipmunki am
07:02.00xlviigah.
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07:02.04xlviiany servers up?
07:02.21nymbiahyperChipmunk: anything that gets a timer on the buffs display
07:02.22Wobworkwhat, still down?
07:02.34sbuxlvii: EU? :o
07:03.15xlviius.
07:03.18xlvii:D
07:03.21sbuoh.. :o
07:03.21ckknightxlvii: it's up for me.
07:03.27xlviiokay
07:03.32xlviihave to wait for patch to finish.
07:03.47xlviii hate how blazzard insists to release more parts at the last minute.
07:03.48nymbiahyperChipmunk: i'm afk a minute or three, but see if it works with Quartz_Buffs ;)
07:03.54xlviiit'd be fine if my internet wasn't capped though
07:04.06sbunymbia: uhm - did i already say that quartz (target) buff/debuff rocks? well, it does :)
07:04.12AKXWhat's Quartz?
07:04.21sbui just removed antagonist + chronometer ;o
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07:04.26xlviiblazzard better like my share ratio too.. 2.154 at the moment.
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07:04.48Neeblershare ratio should win you gold ingame!
07:04.54xlviithat would be cool.
07:04.57xlviino joke.
07:05.10AKXOr free game days.
07:05.17Daemonai'd upgrade my dsl for that AKX ;)
07:05.37Punkie`then you'd just pay more!
07:05.44Neeblerhaha imagine that. companies coming to blizzard and begging them to put their product on Blizzrds Official bittorrent client, and they pay blizzard to give you free shit ingame
07:05.49Daemonadepends on the rations ;)
07:05.53Neeblerknow how many people would do that. and how big of an audience it would reach
07:06.11Punkie`well I can't torrent, uPnP crashes my PC :P
07:06.22Daemonal2portforward
07:06.25sbuuh
07:06.42sbui hope they'll fix maulgar mage till friday :/
07:06.44Punkie`I did that already, but eh, it crashes
07:06.47evlPunkie`: www.patchitbaby.com
07:06.52Punkie`Yeah I have the patch already :)
07:06.54Wobworkl2getabetterrouter
07:06.57Punkie`Had it since last night
07:07.03sbuWe're working on a hotfix for the problem where Krosh Firehand's Spell Shield is not cast immediately upon entering combat for a Mage to Spell Steal <-- *sigh*
07:07.08Punkie`Wobwork: l2gievmrplow2!
07:13.06sbuand again, i have absolutely NO idea how they could break stuff there... :o
07:13.06Punkie`Probably because they retuned the encounter for not using a shit loads of pots (if people do that's beyond me but eh)
07:13.07Wobworkl2patience
07:13.07xlviioh, alchemy changes implemented
07:13.07xlvii*sigh*
07:13.07_icetrainThe Gruul HS bug sounds fun to :)
07:13.07xlviino more uber money for me
07:13.07xlvii:(
07:13.07sbu_icetrain: oh?
07:13.07_icetrainapparently he hits #3 on the aggro list now, not #2
07:13.07Wobworkcan you spellsteal soulstone?
07:13.07sbuhaha
07:13.07Elkano_I hate when people start touching addon parts they don't know enought about :/ eg the changes to Mendeleev...
07:13.08_icetrainbasicly just add another tank but geez :)
07:13.08sbubut what would you do with 2min soulstone?
07:13.08WobworkElkano_: Mutating it? =)
07:13.08Wobworksbu: Die?
07:13.08WobworkHellfire! =)
07:13.08NightHawkTheSanesbu: prevent the lock from using it?
07:13.08sbuhm right... :o
07:13.08Elkano_well, from looking at the code someone turned a usefull display into an (almost) exact copy of anotherone :/
07:13.09hyperChipmunknymbia: http://69.14.77.214/cttrap.jpg
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07:13.09Punkie`hyperChipmunk: Why is F so huge if it's bound!! :D
07:13.09sbu_icetrain: whats wrong w/ gruul HS?
07:13.09hyperChipmunk?
07:13.10Elkano_hC, 2.1 shot?
07:13.10hyperChipmunki took it not more than 2m ago
07:13.10hyperChipmunkyes, 2.1
07:13.10Elkano_so EBBs works on 2.1? good to hear :)
07:13.10Punkie`btw, hC, you can condense all your potions to share the same cooldown on that addon :)
07:13.10hyperChipmunk=)
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07:13.11_icetrainsbu: < _icetrain> apparently he hits #3 on the aggro list now, not #2
07:13.11hyperChipmunkreally? good deal
07:13.11Elkano_since I wouldn't be able to fix much atm since my notebook broke :/
07:13.11hyperChipmunknever looked
07:13.11Punkie`yeah, space saver :)
07:13.12sbuhaha nice try hyperChipmunk, giev real screenshot now, with big FD, multishot and autoshot :o
07:13.50nymbiahyperChipmunk: is that ClassTimer?
07:13.51hyperChipmunkyea
07:13.56hyperChipmunksbu: what do you mean?
07:14.17hyperChipmunknymbia: you can clearly see that both ice trap and mark are on the target
07:14.23hyperChipmunkbut only mark has a bar
07:14.28sbuwell you are a hunter, you dont need more than FD and autoshot? :o
07:14.42hyperChipmunkfor soloing steamvault?
07:14.44nymbiahyperChipmunk: yup
07:14.53hyperChipmunkno, i need rather more than that =x
07:15.10sbu"mana potion injector" reminds me that i have to do engineering 349 -> 375 today, our MT wants that epic gun :/
07:15.17nymbiahyperChipmunk: ominous' code confuses me :(
07:15.20Icerothcan i come leeching rep in some corner? still missing few Ks from exalted
07:15.34hyperChipmunksbu: it needs a primal nether =\
07:15.45NimbleRabit<PROTECTED>
07:15.46hyperChipmunkheh, i'm trying to get to revered so i can get nethers
07:15.59hyperChipmunkyea, well you have an ugly face
07:16.32sbuhyperChipmunk: 4 on bank, 1 for my new goggles - rest for guns i want to sell :p
07:17.07hyperChipmunkohh, you wanted to know why the button was so big
07:17.17hyperChipmunkthose 4 are my notification buttons
07:17.28hyperChipmunk3 are triggered from parry, crit, and dodge
07:17.33hyperChipmunkthe other is a 2m cooldown
07:17.47hyperChipmunki don't use mouse for anything but moving and occasionally targetting
07:17.48Icerothi wonder if the goggles are worth the trouble.. i already have t4 head... but it pisses me off every time i get the mana vortex effect in netherstorm but can't harvest it (don't have any blue goggles either) :p
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07:17.53NimbleRabitI just use SCT with custom events for that kind of thing
07:18.06hyperChipmunkyea, old habits die hard =)
07:18.11PeoiiThe goggles were worth it for my mage.
07:18.16PeoiiMajor upgrade from T4
07:18.24Peoiiand fairly easy to make too honestly.
07:18.25hyperChipmunkif i didn't have it, i'd have a big hole in my interface =)
07:18.30NimbleRabithehe
07:18.32NightHawkTheSane"My eyes! the Goggles! They do nothing!"
07:18.34sbuIceroth: well - since i'm a holy priest those spelldmg goggles are pretty nice :o
07:18.53Loki|muhwhats that screenshot in steamvault? does it say that a hunter can solo the mobs with bug-using or something like taht?
07:19.01Punkie`NightHawkTheSane: I once wrote a gm ticket saying 'Flying Tiger Goggles, They do nothing!'
07:19.10Punkie`The GM didn't really get it :(
07:19.11sbuoh and we have like ~10% priest/druid/warrior t4 tokens loot :/
07:19.21sbuso no t4 dmg for me :p
07:19.22NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: sad :(
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07:19.41Iceroththose class sets are so fubar...
07:19.50Fisker--y helo thar again
07:20.02Saladingiev morning lulz
07:20.03Icerothonly reason i can think of is that for every warrior/druid/priest there is 3x hunters/rogues/mages
07:20.08Saladinbest way to start the day
07:20.19Peoiilol
07:20.27Peoiiwe're rotting mage/hunter/lock t4 pieces.
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07:20.36Saladinhehe
07:20.40Punkie`Peoii: Likewise, Peoii
07:20.41NimbleRabithyperChipmunk: here you can laugh at my ui too, http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot051907160235ao6.jpg
07:20.47nymbiayeah we got double hero offa maulgar today lol
07:20.48PeoiiInfact, we gave an app mage 3/5 T4 today
07:20.51Icerothwell that's the thing, blizz clearly wants you to rotate those lesser classes
07:20.55hyperChipmunkLoki|muh: i was demonstrating an AddOn bug
07:20.56sbuwe hade t4 warri gloves ONCE in about 15 kills :/
07:21.01hyperChipmunkand there's no sploiting involved
07:21.02Kaydeethreelol. I won the t4 piece off mal a week ago because I was the only person in the group who could use the thing
07:21.09Loki|muhhyperChipmunk: ups ^^ :)
07:21.14hyperChipmunki beat that punk fair and square
07:21.28hyperChipmunkand his friend dropped soon after
07:21.36PeoiiHell, we've gotten so lucky with caster loot in the xpac that I've got both the princes dagger and the sword off gruul... :/
07:21.49PeoiiI swear it's just making up for our CRAP luck back in BWL.
07:22.03PeoiiWe went 6 months, and saw 0 pair of netherwind shoulders.
07:22.10Peoiifarming it every, single, week.
07:22.15Punkie`My guild has never seen the Malchazeen
07:22.23sbunetherwing dropped like $mages + 5 times here :o
07:22.25PeoiiEvery rogue in the guild has one :P
07:22.36sbubut we never had any weapon from nef
07:22.42Peoiioh really?
07:22.47vhaarrPunkie`: We've never seen the healing mace.
07:22.51evlWe raided MC for 1.5 years and never saw druid pants off rag :)
07:22.52Peoiiwell, we didn't have many staves...
07:23.08Peoiibut lots of Claws of Chromdome :P
07:23.08nymbiawe're rotting the healer mace
07:23.10Icerothwe had a couple of pallies and a hunter with the asscandy :p
07:23.11Arrowmasterwow thats weird, i found a tablet bug with factionsfu
07:23.17Punkie`vhaarr: We've seen it once, on our first run
07:23.23vhaarrPunkie`: Lucky bastards!
07:23.26sbuoh and about missing loots
07:23.27Punkie`:D
07:23.40PeoiiI'm just stoked my mage has the healing staff off NB
07:23.43Peoii:P
07:23.47sbuno chess event healer shield for 3 (?) months new...
07:23.51sbunow
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07:23.56Peoii75 spirit staff ftw
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07:24.15vhaarrYeah we got the staff lots of times, sharded it the last 2 times :(
07:24.25sbuand my gf wants that shield since we did chess the first time ;o
07:24.30Peoiiour mages have been snagging them
07:24.35Peoiias evocation sticks
07:24.38vhaarrPeoii: We don't have any mages :P
07:24.45Peoiiblasphemy
07:24.55vhaarrwe want them, but there are none available
07:25.01Peoiieww
07:25.02PeoiiWhat server?
07:25.03sbuwe have illhoof druid stuff 2 times (priest and hunter), and no druid in that group :o
07:25.10vhaarrMagtheridon EU
07:25.14Peoiiahh
07:25.22PeoiiCenarius-US, we've got mages to spare.
07:25.52WobworkI honestly cannot believe how slow IE7 is
07:25.58Peoiiinfact, one of our mages got a world first today
07:26.02WobworkIt takes about 5 seconds to create a new tab
07:26.12Wobworkand each link is a few seconds wait
07:26.19hyperChipmunkbelieeeeeeve it
07:26.23PeoiiGot the mount off the new Raven boss in hSH
07:26.27Wobworkit's like they didn't even try =\
07:26.31sbuPeoii: flying?
07:26.50PeoiiNah, land based only
07:26.51evlAnyone got link to complete patch notes?
07:27.00Peoiibut it's  cool because you can use it in the old world.
07:27.00sbuPeoii: name? :o
07:27.02vhaarrPeoii: "hSH"?
07:27.09hyperChipmunkPatch.txt in your wow dir =x
07:27.10xlviiWTF.
07:27.17xlviimy patches download stopped at 99.9
07:27.18sbuheroic sethekk halls?
07:27.21PeoiiReins of the Raven Lord
07:27.23PeoiiYea
07:27.24xlviiand will only let me upload now >_>
07:27.28evlxlvii: so did mine :P
07:27.41sbuhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Mount_RavenLord.jpg
07:27.42sbuhm
07:28.12Wobwork...
07:28.14Wobworknon flying?
07:28.19Peoiiyup
07:28.22Wobworkso it's like a giant emu
07:28.41WobworkI guess with all that gold on it's wings, it can't take off
07:29.03Wobworkanyway
07:29.05Wobworkoff home
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07:29.13hyperChipmunkhehe
07:29.13NightHawkTheSaneyou're mom's a giant emu
07:29.20evlqft
07:29.20SHIFT_nismohttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32768
07:29.26hyperChipmunki need a tallstrider mount =\
07:29.26NightHawkTheSaneyour*
07:29.35WobworkNightHawkTheSane: You are mom is a giant emu =P
07:29.38sbumeh, egbert or willy... or that elekk.. *sigh*
07:29.42Wobworkegbert!
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07:30.35Tupsimy aceupdater didnt found any new addons this morning, is this intentional?
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07:30.45NightHawkTheSanethose childrens week quests are worth a fair bit of gold too
07:30.57NightHawkTheSanelike 45g for all of them
07:30.58sbuTupsi: update to 1.8
07:30.58nymbiaTupsi: 1.7 was disabled, hit reload index and it should prompt you to download 1.8
07:31.04Tupsiahh thanks .-)
07:31.05dRiNTupsi: You press F5 and get mentioned to update?
07:31.15Tupsinah, i only hit F10 :-)
07:31.23sbuoh right, need to update my gf's wow :/
07:31.26Tupsiill try again when i get back from work
07:31.31Tupsithanks!°
07:31.56sbublizz xml keeps crashing my firefox :/
07:32.44Tupsihmm mine is working
07:33.00Tupsi2.0.0.3 here
07:33.04NightHawkTheSanehttp://www.warcraftpets.com/wow.pets/invertebrates/miscellaneous/willy.asp ... okay, do you REALLY need the complex classification of 'invertebrates/miscellaneous' o_0
07:33.17nymbiahahahaha
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07:34.38SunTigerYES damnit
07:35.18hyperChipmunki want willy, but having the little birdy around like my pet's kid learning the ropes from his dad is too good to pass up
07:35.34hyperChipmunkand it says he preens too
07:35.38hyperChipmunkjust like his pa =)
07:37.35nymbiahaha
07:40.07a-stray-catckknight: ping
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07:40.21ckknighta-stray-cat: pong
07:40.45hyperChipmunkhyperChipmunk: splat
07:41.00hyperChipmunkow =\
07:41.01a-stray-catthere doesn't seem to be a way to turn off the aggro indicator in pitbull for pets
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07:41.05nymbiahyperChipmunk: ew
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07:41.32nymbiaa-stray-cat: ctrl-right click them, go to the banzai options, and toggle on the ignore thinger
07:41.49hyperChipmunkpets are ppl too!
07:41.53a-stray-cati may have an older version, i guess
07:41.55Punkie`NightHawkTheSane: I love how Willy is a one-eyed monster
07:42.11a-stray-catfor other units i just have an "Enable aggro indicator"
07:42.13NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: indeed. :)
07:42.23a-stray-catrather than banzai options
07:42.33Punkie`I'm torn between Willy and that Eggbert or something :(
07:42.35nymbiaa-stray-cat: i guess that's what it is now, i'm out of the loop >.>
07:42.44NightHawkTheSanei got egbert. *shrug*
07:43.23Punkie`But it's so cute how Willy gets tired after only a short amount of time ;D
07:44.12a-stray-catcurse you, engineering gods
07:44.16a-stray-catwhy can't you let me skill up ><
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07:45.47hyperChipmunkhaha
07:46.19hyperChipmunki've been stockpiling mats for months
07:46.43NightHawkTheSanei'll stockpile YOUR mats.
07:46.48Icerothi'm somewhere 35x, just can't find the reason to get more
07:46.50Punkie`I'm already 376 engineering, wtb server so I can make me some goggles
07:47.12hyperChipmunkthe skillups were stingy for me, too, but i brute-forced it
07:47.30a-stray-catIceroth: im supposed to make one of those silly guns for our MT
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07:47.51a-stray-catno other engineer in guild because, well, you know why :<
07:47.54hyperChipmunki saved all my mats for that gun, then they made it need a primal nether >8*(
07:47.58Icerothwhat gun be that?
07:48.10hyperChipmunkgyro-balanced khorium destroyer
07:48.17ckknighthey hyperChipmunk, you're US, right?
07:48.28hyperChipmunkif i am, does it mean i have to do something?
07:48.34ckknightno
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07:48.39hyperChipmunkok, yea
07:48.41hyperChipmunki'm US
07:48.43Icerothoeh, neat stam
07:48.51Icerothand no engineering requirement either O.o
07:48.59Eyes-tIm having a problem with Ag_unit frames anyone want to help?
07:49.02ckknightI play alliance now
07:49.04hyperChipmunkyea, guns don't have req
07:49.05Elkano_Gandharva: can't query you atm, don't have my password at hand
07:49.05ckknightEyes-t: shoot.
07:49.20ckknightEyes-t: does your target not show up in combat?
07:49.25Eyes-tyep
07:49.29ckknightupdate AutoBar
07:49.45Eyes-ti use the the ace updater about 5 mins ago and it still does it
07:50.38ckknightI don't believe you, sorry
07:50.52nymbiaEyes-t: did addons actually update?
07:51.15Eyes-tyeah its says all  yep cause it says current when wowaceupdater updates everything
07:51.22nymbiait lies
07:51.30nymbiahit reload index in the view menu.
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07:52.45Eyes-tK
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07:54.11CIA-2303punkie * r36547 10pMutilate/ (core.lua pMutilate.toc):
07:54.12CIA-23pMutilate:
07:54.12CIA-23- Update toc
07:54.12CIA-23- One Bucket to Rule them all
07:54.20evlMrs Bucket
07:54.52hyperChipmunk"If the Burning Legion is such a problem, why not just throw water on them? Then they'll just be a Legion."
07:55.50Eyes-tis there a better UI addon other then Ag_unit?
07:56.11hyperChipmunkEyes-t: PitBull replaced it
07:56.17hyperChipmunklike a month ago
07:56.20Punkie`It didn't replace it
07:56.38hyperChipmunkwell, it replaced it for anyone who doesn't suck
07:56.49Diaolol
07:57.03Punkie`Pitbull isn't finished for me yet
07:57.26hyperChipmunkwhat doesn't it have?
07:57.30hyperChipmunkthat agUF does
07:57.57KemayoLast time I tried raiding, agUF had much better raid grouping.  This might have changed by now, though.
07:58.07Elkano_Punkie`, well aguf isn't, too ;) only more work is put into Pitbull atm ;)
07:58.08ckknightKemayo: I'd say it's changed.
07:58.12Punkie`It's not that, it's that when it goes get something I'll switch.. there's no real reason for me to switch if it doesn't do the things I wan't :)
07:58.22hyperChipmunkwhy would you use either for raidframes O_o
07:58.29ckknightsuch as, Punkie`?
07:58.37Eyes-tIm a mage and i use Grid for my raid interface
07:58.47Punkie`The text movement options that are broke ckk
07:58.48hyperChipmunkPunkie`: active development
07:58.54ckknightPunkie`: hey, they all work for me.
07:59.15ckknightyou just touch yourself at night, it's God's way of showing that he's angry with you
07:59.17Punkie`I can't move healthtext off the healthbar and into the frame
07:59.18hyperChipmunkyea, see, you must be one of those "suck" people
07:59.45ckknightPunkie`: I can
07:59.58Punkie`i think it's more of a shame that you need to force your addons onto me hC :p
08:00.08a-stray-catckknight: was there an option for disabling the aggro indicator for pets or did I just miss it?
08:00.15Punkie`ckknight: perhaps it is because I selected another layout? could that be the problem
08:00.23ckknighta-stray-cat: bet you just missed it. can't be sure, though.
08:00.26ckknightPunkie`: likely.
08:00.31ckknightPunkie`: it only works properly in ABF
08:00.36Punkie`aha
08:00.42ckknightwhat layout were you trying?
08:00.48Punkie`oUF
08:00.57ckknightwhat does oUF offer over ABF anyway?
08:01.02a-stray-catright now my pet menu is missing about half of those "Enable" options at the bottom
08:01.13Punkie`I don't know, I was looking around
08:01.13NimbleRabithyperChipmunk: you don't use pitbull for raid frames?
08:01.40Punkie`Is there a way of setting the backdrop as a static, and just resizing the healthbars etc inside?
08:01.42hyperChipmunkgood god, no
08:01.47NimbleRabitit works fine for me..
08:01.48hyperChipmunkperfectraid or grid
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08:02.03hyperChipmunkthat's not the point =x
08:02.06NimbleRabitall grid has going for it is that it's smaller
08:02.16NimbleRabitwhich I don't need
08:02.19NimbleRabitso I use pitbull =/
08:02.47[Ammo]Punkie`: that's how it works normally
08:03.06hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/toomany.jpg <---wtf
08:03.10Punkie`Surely when I resize the healthbar, the whole unitframe changes shape?
08:03.11[Ammo]you can set the bars relative to eachother within the fixed framesize
08:03.17[Ammo]no
08:03.35nymbiahyperChipmunk: lol that was happening on my server too
08:04.17kergothgoddamnit
08:04.18SHIFT_nismoAnyone know what happened to SorrenTimers?
08:04.25kergothwhat the fuck is loading both cart herbalism and mining on chars that dont have them?
08:04.26Aenslaedammo, can you take a look at this thread? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6204.0
08:04.48NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: yeah, same on my server
08:06.07[Ammo]kergoth: did you set it to show always?
08:06.32[Ammo]Aenslaed: my guild is not up to Solarian atm, so I have no clue, but something could probably be made
08:07.21Aenslaedusing that thread I posted, do you think it is enough for someone to make a mod based on that information alone?
08:08.17kergoth[Ammo], no, i confirmed they're all set to prof
08:08.26kergothand this char has only mining, but they both loaded. same on my herbalist
08:09.53hyperChipmunklast year i remember there was part of the orphan quest where you had to get them ice cream
08:09.54phyberwhat about if you log a character that doesn't have either profession? :o
08:10.19hyperChipmunkmy orphan was so annoying i gave his ice cream to another person's kid to do the quest
08:10.26CIA-2303kemayo * r36548 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: Change friend syncing system to use two tables instead of one, for a far easier test of whether or not we're trying to sync too many friends.
08:10.38NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: lol, nice.
08:10.40phyberhyperChipmunk: :D
08:11.07[Ammo]Aenslaed: I think tooltip screenshots from the buffs are needed, because if icon and name are the same that's the only way to determine which one you have
08:11.19[Ammo]unless tooltip is the same as well
08:11.25[Ammo]then you're fuxored in detecting
08:11.28hyperChipmunkstupid kids...
08:11.40hyperChipmunkmy g/f got really mad at me for some reason
08:11.44Aenslaed[Ammo]: ok. I'll get some next attempt
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08:12.48phyberhyperChipmunk: wasn't it possible to get your kid killed in combat for a while?  taking them to raggy, etc.
08:13.12Kemayonymbia: Very nice job on the new buff/debuff timers in Quartz, by the way.
08:13.13hyperChipmunkyea; i tried to burn mine just now on an infernal and it didn't work =\
08:13.40phyberaww :(
08:13.49Icerothheh, kids.. there's a thread at druid forums, some father is writing "my 5 year old son is terrified of moonkins" - like WTH are you thinking, there's probably a reason the game has 12+ rating
08:14.28phyberkids going to be scared of owls for life.
08:14.29hyperChipmunkis his kid a hunter maybe?
08:14.33xlviidaemona, what spec did you suggest i use? (wowhead.com talent build please? <3)
08:14.35phyberbe like something from Futurama, buying Owl Traps.
08:14.50NimbleRabitCan anyone point me in the right direction as to what mods are used for that box with the chat/minimap in it as well as what mod makes the minimap look like this
08:14.51NimbleRabithttp://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/ThunderTL/WoW%20Albums/5e44ff9d.jpg
08:15.04CIA-2303nymbia * r36549 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (6 files in 5 dirs):
08:15.04CIA-23PeriodicTable-3.0:
08:15.04CIA-23- Dataminer update to grab some of the new tradeskills/gear/minipets ;)
08:15.07nymbiaKemayo: thanks :)
08:15.15phyberNimbleRabit: Squeenix?
08:16.00phyberoh, the rest of it.  just moving things about and being fancy.  probably moving one of the Skinner frames about.
08:16.16NimbleRabithmm ok
08:16.29nymbiaow, my spleen
08:16.43NimbleRabitIt looks stellar, i want to get my chat boxes looking like that =D
08:16.48NeoTronso it's impressive how klhthreatmeter uses so much cpu when I'm not even in a raid nor fighting
08:16.48NimbleRabithehe, I said stellar
08:17.03nymbiaNeoTron: i know, right?
08:17.15hyperChipmunkthe ring of observance part is hilarious
08:17.28nymbiaNeoTron: just imagine how much it is when you're actually in a raid ;)
08:18.03phyberwhat's the Mod of Choice for displaying these new CPU stats for addons?
08:18.15nymbiaphyber: performancefu
08:18.25phyberah :)
08:18.26hyperChipmunkjust use expo; it's better than the new stuff =P
08:18.34nymbiaphyber: and debugfu, for poking around a single addon
08:18.49NimbleRabitare their memory stats as well?
08:19.50NeoTronnymbia: no kidding
08:20.04SHIFT_nismois there a alternative to KLH?
08:20.10NeoTronbaggings is using cpu though, wonder what it's doing when the bags are closed
08:20.45Silviu-No alternative for KLH :(
08:20.46Silviu-;)
08:20.49NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: I'm guessing it does something every time an inventory/bag event is fired. :\
08:20.53Diaohm
08:21.00evlBAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN e.g
08:21.11DiaoNimbleRabit that chat thing might be eepanels with transparency or something
08:21.50NimbleRabitallright I'll check that out
08:22.33Silviu-Anyone is going to just poke the toc for OneBag One* ? ;)
08:24.09hyperChipmunki'll poke your eye out
08:24.18hyperChipmunkhow would you like that?
08:24.27Punkie`http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa211/ZarathusTK/DressingRoom.jpg :o
08:24.37sbuhm
08:24.38NimbleRabithmm seeing stats for each addon is neat
08:24.42Punkie`It's what Ammo looks like irl
08:24.45Silviu-hyper u`r so bad today :/
08:24.49evl:D
08:24.50CIA-2303alx * r36550 10WhoLib/WhoLib.toc:
08:24.50CIA-23WhoLib:
08:24.50CIA-23- updated toc to 20100 (2.1)
08:25.16hyperChipmunkrofl
08:26.36NimbleRabityeah klh is my highest cpu %
08:26.40NimbleRabitwhen I'm just standing around
08:27.51evlbut KLH looks so neatly written
08:28.18NimbleRabittabletlib is using third most cpu
08:28.27NimbleRabitlol
08:28.30evlhow? :P
08:29.01NimbleRabitdunno
08:29.25vhaarrTablet-2.0's use of CPU time is very dependant on the addons that use it.
08:29.27evlckknight: I was thinking about taking a stab at Pitbull_Arena, which would show the opposing arena team as separate "party" frames, would it require a lot of work or can I simply create a new unit on the fly and tell it to watch person X?
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08:29.49ckknightevl: doesn't work like that
08:30.02ckknightevl: basically, units frames can't track by name
08:30.12ckknightevl: they have to track by unit id, e.g. party1target
08:30.24kergoth~botmail for Ominous: "Grow Up" in ClassTimer doesn't seem to work properly.  sometimes it seems the 2nd bar to appear is above the first properly, but then a third appears and it isnt growning up properly after that.  seems like an anchoring problem
08:30.25nymbiaevl: what the current arena frame addons do it create a button with an attribute 'macrotext' that does a '/target name'
08:30.27evlI understand, and getting around that would require a lot of hacking?
08:30.38ckknighti.e. impossible in my eyes
08:30.42evlok, thanks :P
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08:31.28Punkie`evl: You had better of migrated already!
08:31.35evlPunkie`: today my dear :D
08:31.42evlPunkie`: I made 365 Enchanting yesterday
08:31.43NimbleRabitwoot gonna go get in combat and finally track down what is lagging me so much
08:31.57evlJust have to milk my realm for the new Meta gems for an hour or two :D
08:32.03evlI was thinking 250g per meta cut ;)
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08:32.23Punkie`NimbleRabit: I would probably say at least 35mb of the 80mb+ UI you are using :p
08:32.29evlsince i'm the only one on alliance with 375 JC and Exalted consortium, lolololol SPLOIT!
08:32.40Punkie`evl: haha, nice
08:32.51nymbiaPunkie`: burn
08:33.05Punkie`whyyy nymbia :(
08:33.12evlPunkie`: but with certainty within tomorrow evening
08:33.15nymbiaO.o
08:33.28Punkie`why am i burning :(
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08:33.42Punkie`evl: is the agi/crit dmg one you can make?
08:33.48evlPunkie`: i can make all gems
08:33.57nymbiaPunkie`: no i mean you burned NimbleRabit
08:33.58evli only miss one design, +10 spell penetration
08:34.00Punkie`even the +haste one?
08:34.08Punkie`nymbia: hehe :p
08:34.10evlno, that's random world drop
08:34.17Punkie`so then you cannot!
08:34.26Punkie`I wonder which would be better
08:34.36evlBTW your summertime movie was an instant success
08:34.43Punkie`haha
08:34.47evlMysticsoul one of the  guys migrating was an instant fan
08:34.48CIA-2303nymbia * r36551 10Expiration/Expiration.toc:
08:34.48CIA-23Expiration:
08:34.48CIA-23- 20100, not 21000
08:34.53Punkie`did ammo sell you that?
08:34.58evlwe just /whisper Mysticsoul Person A is ganking me at spot B, come kill
08:35.04evland he'll camp em until he goes to bed
08:35.04evl:P
08:35.08Punkie`awesome
08:35.30Punkie`me and a guy called KC (who makde the movie) say: hey, elemental plateau anyone?
08:35.33evlhas somethink like 100 kills a day average on plateu, one of those safefall -> mid air kill ty spirit res bastards!
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08:35.54evlmystic even has the blackened heart so he camps them at the GY when they spirit res
08:35.57Punkie`evl: I managed to make the same guy take spirit rez twice from deadly throw :p
08:35.57evlan evil, EVIL man
08:36.07NimbleRabithmm, getting a bigwigs error when I login
08:36.09Punkie`lmao, i do that too :o
08:36.11NimbleRabithas that already been reported?
08:36.16evlPunkie`: a perfect match :D
08:36.18vhaarrNimbleRabit: What error?
08:36.20[Ammo]NimbleRabit: what error?
08:36.22CIA-2303nymbia * r36552 10FuBar_PoisonReminderFu/FuBar_PoisonReminderFu.toc:
08:36.22CIA-23FuBar_PoisonReminderFu:
08:36.22CIA-23- 20100, not 21000
08:36.23NimbleRabit[2007/05/23 01:30:13-585-x1]: BigWigs\SC\Lurker.lua:28: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 14) near 'spout_message1'
08:36.23[Ammo]haha
08:36.30vhaarrfunkeh you nubcake
08:36.33evlPunkie`: he couples with a little warlock named Orly who is equally evil if possible
08:36.34nymbia~blame funkeh
08:36.46purlACTION blames funkeh (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
08:36.46[Ammo]funkeh you nubckake
08:36.46NimbleRabitlol
08:36.46Punkie`evl: hehe :D
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08:36.52vhaarr[Ammo]: can you fix it?
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08:37.10NimbleRabitI always love } expected errors
08:37.11NimbleRabit=/
08:37.20harldephin"Hell, it's about time!" hehe.. *laugh*
08:37.22CIA-2303nymbia * r36553 10GemList/GemList.toc:
08:37.22CIA-23GemList:
08:37.22CIA-23- 20100, not 21000
08:37.31[Ammo]vhaarr: sure
08:37.55Punkie`nymbia: I swear you never answered, but is collapsible buttons on pt3bar possible dor you? :)
08:38.08evlnymbia: I've got a small request, can you make the default reply from !gem a bit less verbose? Many of my customers complain they get lost in translation after 4-5 lines of instruction manual
08:38.36sbuits not nymbia's addon
08:38.38Punkie`evl: how hard is it to do !gem red
08:38.40Diaoo_O
08:38.42CIA-2303ammo * r36554 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: BigWigs: fix nubcake errors
08:38.42nymbiaPunkie`: maybe, it'll require some hax.
08:38.46evlPunkie`: you'd be AMAZED
08:38.49Diaoafter updating to WAU 1.8.23
08:39.19Diao"The process cannot access the file '....\Temp\WowAceUpdater\latest-noext.xml' because it is being used by another process."
08:39.22nymbiahyperChipmunk: smack ominous around double, he tagged a bunch of crap as 21000
08:39.23Diaowhen i press f5
08:39.45CIA-2303nymbia * r36555 10Niagara/Niagara.toc:
08:39.45CIA-23Niagara:
08:39.46CIA-23- 20100, not 21000
08:40.03Punkie`Diao: maybe check to see if your old WAU is in memory?
08:40.13Diaoi just rebooted
08:40.15Diao;x
08:40.20Punkie`weird :(
08:40.36Diaostrange thing is
08:40.38Diaoi pressed continue
08:40.40Diaoand then f5 again
08:40.41Diaoand no error
08:40.48CIA-2303evl * r36556 10FuBar_PoisonReminderFu/Core.lua:
08:40.48CIA-23FuBar_PoisonReminderFu:
08:40.48CIA-23- Removed charges display since this has now been obsoleted by 2.1
08:40.56Diaooh well
08:41.06CIA-2303nymbia * r36557 10PoisonMenu/PoisonMenu.toc:
08:41.06CIA-23PoisonMenu:
08:41.06CIA-23- 20100, not 21000
08:42.33NimbleRabitman there is a huge amount of "unsorted" things in manufac
08:42.36NimbleRabitfor leatherworking
08:42.59Punkie`so sort them!
08:43.07nymbiayeah i'm gonna update all that crap once all the new stuff's on wowhead (or rather, in pt3, but they're the same thing)
08:43.07hyperChipmunktbc stuff isn't sorted
08:43.44NimbleRabitPunkie`: heh, I am right now lol
08:44.05Elkano_AtlasLoot was aced? so it's goodbye world?
08:44.16nymbiaElkano_: not really, no
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08:44.31NightHawkTheSane"Wait a minute, let me get something straight... ..engaged?" "It is theoretically possible, sir." "It's against regulations!" "I'm talking physics, sir."
08:44.35nymbiaElkano_: but it's on the svn and uses dewdrop, that counts right?
08:44.53Punkie`nymbia: is that all?
08:44.57nymbiayup
08:45.01Gnarfozhay guys
08:45.03Punkie`what a joke
08:45.04CIA-2303nymbia * r36558 10SanityBags/SanityBags.toc:
08:45.04CIA-23SanityBags:
08:45.04CIA-23- 20100, not 21000
08:45.12CIA-2303evl * r36559 10FuBar_PoisonReminderFu/Core.lua:
08:45.12CIA-23FuBar_PoisonReminderFu:
08:45.12CIA-23- Added "Anesthetic Poison" to presets
08:45.27Elkano_well, if I read the author correctly it also uses AceLocal, Babble, FuBaPlugin, ...
08:45.40nymbiadetails.
08:45.42evlDoes any event fire when your weapon buffs change?
08:45.47NightHawkTheSaneElkano_: and yet, doesn't mange to use pt3
08:45.48Gnarfozanyone tried out Tattle_LFM, yet? ^^
08:45.53CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36560 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Fixed alt-invite
08:46.01Elkano_I wonder how "aced" it will bekome meaning: will he code on the svn or only release
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08:46.10vhaarrrelease only.
08:46.12vhaarrSo it's bullshit.
08:46.23nymbiait's still a boatload of globals
08:46.28vhaarrBasically, it's a half-assed conversion, at best.
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08:46.56nymbiauses nothing of the core libs... no object, no db, etc etc
08:47.12Gnarfoztopic is... AtlasLoot?
08:47.21nymbiaindeed
08:47.24Gnarfozah
08:47.25Elkano_NightHawkTheSane: well, not using it gives the author more power about what to show ;)
08:47.33NightHawkTheSaneSadly, i actually like atlasloot. ;\
08:47.39SunTigerthrowing the libs in but not using them does not make it ace.
08:47.53vhaarroh, he uses them, for the fubar plugin.
08:47.55CIA-2303punkie * r36561 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.toc: ClassTimer: toc 21000 -> 20100
08:48.06CIA-2303nymbia * r36562 10Buffalo/Buffalo.toc:
08:48.06CIA-23Buffalo:
08:48.06CIA-23- Bump toc to 20100
08:48.18NightHawkTheSanewell, the latest version actually uses dewdrop at least for menues. :P
08:49.13nymbiaPunkie`: weird, how'd my grep miss that one
08:49.17Elkano_moonwolf, in that case, ItemDB isn't aced, too... and ElkBuffBar never was ^^
08:49.25SunTigerindeed
08:49.32Punkie`because a mudkip ated it :(
08:49.43SunTigerthat doesn't have to be bad.
08:49.58SunTigerand we stil like you , and you are stil part of the community, but the mods wern't ace.
08:50.00SunTigerimho
08:50.12Gnarfozis EBBs aced, tho?
08:50.17NightHawkTheSanehe's lying about the liking you part.
08:50.22Gnarfozobviously
08:50.35Elkano_yes, EBBs is fully aced
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08:50.51vhaarrdoesn't matter if the mod is aced or not, the point is that he's including the libs without using them, which is just silly.
08:50.55Elkano_only ace part in ebb was compost
08:50.58vhaarrand he's using the SVN as a release mechanism
08:51.00vhaarrwhich is even worse
08:51.13CIA-2303nymbia * r36563 10OneView/OneView.toc: OneView - Bump toc to 20100
08:51.21vhaarrwhen he finds out he can lock out other authors, he will do so
08:51.34CIA-2303nymbia * r36564 10OneStorage/OneStorage.toc: OneStorage - Bump toc to 20100
08:51.44Gnarfozthat I could understand - if he used the svn to develop
08:51.51Gnarfozbut sounds like he doesn't
08:51.54CIA-2303nymbia * r36565 10OneBank/OneBank.toc: OneBank - Bump toc to 20100
08:51.58vhaarrhe does not, he said so himself.
08:52.07GnarfozI should not IRC from work, btw :D
08:52.20Gnarfoz:#
08:52.23Punkie`Gnarfoz: but it passes the time :(
08:52.33Tupsiwhat file does the new updater try to load from the web for the overview? trying to fix my UniAdmin
08:52.37GnarfozPunkie`: it does, but I'm not actually allowed ^^
08:52.44CIA-2303nymbia * r36566 10OneBag/OneBag.toc: OneBag - Bump toc to 20100
08:52.47GnarfozTupsi: latest.xml
08:52.48Elkano_vhaarr: I'd simply say that he doesn't understand ace ^
08:52.49GnarfozI guess
08:52.51Punkie`Gnarfoz: I don't think I have either, I've never asked :p
08:52.55ThraeGnarfoz: PuTTY + screen + irssi ftw ;)
08:52.55Tupsiuhh xml
08:53.02GnarfozThrae: doing exactly that :D
08:53.09Tupsiso much for trying
08:53.47Gnarfozgotta pick up some color scheme besides the default one
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08:54.27Gnarfozwasn't there one that made it all look like java code displayed in eclipse or something? ^^
08:54.40Gnarfozto make it less visually obvious :D
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08:54.54Solegood evening
08:54.59Solehey guys, whats some good audio editing software?
08:55.10Solesay to speed a track up, cut a track into sections, etc
08:55.12Stephmwaudacity is quite nice
08:55.22renchapGnarfoz: http://irssi.org/themefiles/c0ders.png
08:55.22Gnarfozyeah, audacity should be able to do that
08:55.29Solethanks guys
08:55.33Gnarfozrenchap: exactly :D
08:55.58SoleI love that theme
08:56.12GnarfozI don't code for work, sadly (apprenticeship right now)
08:56.33Gnarfozbut better than plain default theme ;)
08:56.37Megalonhrhr, nice theme
08:56.42NightHawkTheSanerenchap: o_0
08:56.52NightHawkTheSanethat theme hurts my tiny little brain
08:57.21harldephindamn
08:57.36NightHawkTheSaneyay! juice!
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08:57.45evlSpeaking of juice!
08:58.08evlBooty Juice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc-OhRrvyvE
08:58.12harldephinthe juice is good.
08:58.36CIA-2303ammo * r36567 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: Single Reason for Adjustment
09:00.01LeialynIf I want to use the new "countdown display" on your buffs and debuffs with PitBull, do I have to enable cooldown spiral or not?
09:00.10Leialynon my*
09:00.42Silviu-vhaarr , [Ammo] those numbers in chat with SCM are still there :(
09:00.58Silviu-After each message is a number
09:01.00vhaarrSilviu-: I know.
09:01.07Silviu-U know why ? ;)
09:01.07vhaarrI'll fix it today, or someone else will.
09:01.12Silviu-Ok
09:01.13vhaarrbecause other people talk as well.
09:01.54Gnarfozthey should shut up
09:01.55Gnarfoz:D
09:02.29hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/preening.png
09:02.33hyperChipmunkwobin: --^
09:03.24NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: how long were you standing there waiting for them to sync up? :P
09:03.31hyperChipmunkseriously like a half hour
09:03.43NightHawkTheSanelol
09:04.04hyperChipmunkit's even worse cuz the little guy runs around 90% of the time
09:04.46NightHawkTheSanei know
09:04.46NightHawkTheSanehe's a spaz, it's great :)
09:04.46hyperChipmunkhehe
09:04.52hyperChipmunkhe's learning good habits from Uncle Lyriki
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09:06.01LuxusHorahey
09:06.17nymbiawot ^ LuxusHora
09:06.25nymbiau lukin 4 some hawt cyberz?
09:06.27LuxusHoraAnyone know why my bartender wont swap to intended main bar when i stance swap in combat?
09:06.35LuxusHorabut it works like a charm when out of combat
09:06.36nymbiaLuxusHora: updated autobar?
09:06.39hyperChipmunkhave autobar?
09:06.42LuxusHoraye
09:06.48hyperChipmunkupdate 'em both
09:06.57LuxusHorai updated autobar and bartender
09:07.18NimbleRabitis there a way to make performancefu track spikes?  It's hard to closely watch changes in cpu load when they just spike up then down
09:07.37evlWhy the fuck did they increase mangle damage again?
09:07.48Stephmwevl: got pwned by a feral druid?
09:07.50Punkie`to mangle your face off evl!
09:07.52evlBack to Bear Form fun for the whole family.
09:07.59hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/mynpets.png
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09:08.11abbat_whi guys
09:08.14hyperChipmunkso adorable
09:08.48Stephmwnew with the patch? or those collectible cards?
09:09.04hyperChipmunkchildren's week reward
09:09.22Stephmwnice
09:09.23hyperChipmunklook, they preen together: http://69.14.77.214/preening.png
09:09.32NightHawkTheSanei still need to do the old world one too
09:09.42LuxusHoraah well, i updated all my ace addons an hour ago, seems like there has been new releases since then, updated autobar now and my stance swapping bars in bartender works now :-)
09:09.44LuxusHoracheers all
09:10.02hyperChipmunkjust disable autobar for now
09:10.03nymbiaLuxusHora: now about those hawt cyberz...
09:10.09hyperChipmunkor use pt3bar
09:10.14TheKarnoh that is just retarded
09:10.18LuxusHoranymbia, naughty boy!
09:10.19StephmwLuxusHora: those ace developers just never stop improving stuff :)
09:10.27nymbiaLuxusHora: lol
09:10.31TheKarnwhy has blizzard made it impossible to place my chatwindows at the top of my screen?
09:10.56Lyfei updated twice today, found i had about a dozen mods changed in that period.
09:11.06LuxusHoraTheKarn, it was an important fix, they will deal with gold farmers later
09:11.18NimbleRabitoh wow, new quartz functionality just keeps coming
09:11.20NimbleRabitlove these swing timers
09:11.35hyperChipmunkwelcome to 3 days ago, slowbie!
09:11.38Lyfeswing timers?
09:11.42nymbia:)
09:11.56NimbleRabitand my out of range request is already there!
09:11.56NimbleRabitwoo
09:12.16NimbleRabitLyfe: for autoattack
09:12.23Lyfei see.
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09:12.41NightHawkTheSaneand auto-shot
09:12.50Punkie`nymbia: re: quartz, i told you so! ;D
09:12.50sedatedChipmunkgnight froods
09:13.01nymbiaPunkie`: lies!
09:13.07sedatedChipmunkaw dang, it's morning again >8\
09:13.11nymbialater sedatedChipmunk
09:13.20NightHawkTheSaneit is mornin
09:13.27Punkie`It's 10am!
09:13.27NightHawkTheSaneg
09:13.36NightHawkTheSane2:15, bitch
09:13.40sedatedChipmunkwell that just isn't fair =\
09:13.44sedatedChipmunk05:15
09:13.46NightHawkTheSanelive somewhere sane! :P
09:13.52NimbleRabitoh this swing timer doesn't like duel wielding at all
09:13.54nymbia3:15 ^^
09:13.56Punkie`I am! It's called an island :)
09:13.58Kemayockknight: Pitbul bug!  Hovering over the dewdrop for raid grouping filters by class/group gets an error about how handler must be provided.  Only tried in configmode.
09:14.07KemayoPitBull, too.
09:14.15NightHawkTheSanepsh, to hell with islands.
09:14.16Punkie`NimbleRabit: afaik swingtimers only work for the mainhand
09:14.36nymbiaNimbleRabit: nope, not yet.. gotta get the timing right
09:14.43NimbleRabitPunkie`: I know, but this doesn't work at all lol
09:15.08NimbleRabitthat's ok, it's still cool for my warrior alt
09:15.10boobies4unymbia!
09:15.19nymbia~flee
09:15.24purlACTION runs away screaming
09:15.24boobies4u:(
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09:16.11nymbiaOminous: run! before sedatedChipmunk sees you!
09:16.19Ominouswhy
09:16.33NotOminoushe wont guess who i am now
09:16.35nymbiabug report for classtimer iirc
09:16.38NotOminousrofl
09:16.38sedatedChipmunkaw man
09:16.38NotOminous:D
09:16.42ayunyankemayo: getting maybe FuBar_QuestsFu error. "Interface\AddOns\DeuceCommander\DeuceCommander.lua:74: DewDrop-2.0: args.Quest.args.Fubar_QuestsFu.args.Tracker: "args" must be a table"
09:16.45sedatedChipmunkdid anyone see ominous come in?
09:16.46nymbiai think he sent you a botmail
09:16.49Punkie`omg, who's NotOminous?!!
09:16.57Ominouskergoth sent me a botmail
09:17.00Ominoushow do i read it
09:17.09nymbiano idea, lol
09:17.11sedatedChipmunk/msg purl botmail read
09:17.34sedatedChipmunkOminous: http://69.14.77.214/cttrap.jpg
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09:17.38Punkie`Ominous: Is it ok for me to add more trinkets to ClassTimers? :)
09:17.44CartassOn Bartender3, there is no lag-bar shown next to the bag bar?
09:17.44Ominousyes
09:17.45CIA-2303rabbit * r36568 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: playernames: Don't show the new message counter thingy.
09:17.47Ominousi need that alot
09:17.56vhaarrSilviu-: ^
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09:18.05sedatedChipmunkOminous: compare debuffs to classtimers
09:18.07Elkano_I'll head to lecture... l8ers
09:18.16vhaarrKemayo: [2007/05/23 11:16:29-3972-x1]: AuldLangSyne-1.1.36304\AuldLangSyne.lua:241: attempt to call a table value
09:18.41sedatedChipmunkk now i'm totally going to bed
09:18.47Ominouswait
09:18.51sedatedChipmunk=\
09:18.53Ominouswhat is that other debuff
09:18.54CIA-2303kemayo * r36569 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: pairs() schmairs().
09:18.57sedatedChipmunktrap
09:19.02sedatedChipmunknone of them work
09:19.07Kemayovhaarr: Thanks!
09:19.08Ominousok
09:19.18sedatedChipmunkyou can tell it's a trap because the mob is inside of a GIANT FREAKING ICE BLOCK
09:19.32Silviu-vhaarr thx :)
09:19.42Ominousheh, i just woke up
09:19.42Silviu-I also noticed, no colours on players in chat anymore
09:19.50sedatedChipmunkalso, the file name should give you a clue
09:19.55Silviu-Could be because of shaman got a blue colour ?
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09:20.44Punkie`lmao: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=286873172&sid=1
09:21.13[Ammo]Silviu-: the colors should be back now
09:21.14Icerothheh, locked
09:21.18Silviu-Oky
09:21.20[Ammo]it can't match a player:number to a player :p
09:21.22CIA-2303kemayo * r36570 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Details/Details.lua Tracker/Tracker.lua):
09:21.22CIA-23FuBar_QuestsFu:
09:21.22CIA-23- Change details and tracker menu registration to have sensible defaults in case something like DeuceCommander hits them early.
09:21.24Silviu-I just update
09:21.25[Ammo]or couldn't
09:21.33Kemayoayunyan: That should fix that.
09:21.35sedatedChipmunkyea, alt-invite broked
09:21.47sedatedChipmunkcolor wfm though
09:22.07OminousSC: what is the debuff name from traps?
09:22.18sedatedChipmunkdepends on the trap
09:22.30Ominousjust give me one
09:22.39CryectPunkie`: the amusing part of that post has to be "I know that even handicapped people can play their Hunters without experiencing any problems or restrictions. "
09:22.42sedatedChipmunkFreezing Trap, Frost Trap Aura, Immolation Trap, Explosive Trap Aura i think they are
09:22.55Ominousok so i did spell them right, very odd
09:23.08a-stray-catFreezing Trap Effect
09:23.11sedatedChipmunkit might not be triggered by me or something
09:23.25sedatedChipmunkthe event might be different
09:23.27nymbiaOminous: why filter?
09:23.37Icerothi've always wanted to write a ticket to change hunter class description, "So easy to play that even the bots can do it!"
09:23.44Ominousnymbia: what?
09:23.52sedatedChipmunkok srsly furreal i'm gtb now
09:23.55a-stray-catIceroth: lies and deceit
09:24.08a-stray-catits more like "So hard to get a perfect shot rotation that only a bot could do it."
09:24.14nymbiaOminous: why filter the debuffs to display?
09:24.18CIA-2303haarm * r36571 10Aperture/Aperture.toc:
09:24.18CIA-23Aperture:
09:24.18CIA-23- Updated Interface version.
09:25.01nymbiaOminous: ah, i see... categorization. never mind me
09:26.02CIA-2303daviesh * r36572 10AtlasLoot/ (AtlasLoot.toc Libraries/ Libs/):
09:26.02CIA-23AtlasLoot:
09:26.02CIA-23- Revert to version 36448 to try to fix externals
09:26.09Punkie`Cryect: Yeah, that was awesome :)
09:26.17Ominoussee the thing is atm i have no chars as i got hacked so its hard for me to test
09:26.35a-stray-catouch
09:26.36Fisker--where is the childrens week npc?
09:26.58Brunershow do you write in the new LFG channel ?
09:26.58nymbiaFisker--: lower city inn
09:28.08nymbiaJusticarAdys: lol grats ;)
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09:30.33Snarrrrhooray. all addons disabled and i still get "Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1256: bad argument #2 to 'strsplit' (string expected, got nil)" -error which doesn't go away when i push okay :/
09:31.15nymbiaSnarrrr: its not addon caused, it's a bug in the blizz code.
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09:32.03Snarrrryeah i figured that but why don't all get it? :(
09:32.26nymbiaprobably some setting or other.
09:32.28JusticarAdysit appears as soon as you log in?
09:32.38Snarrrryeah
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09:32.59NightHawkTheSanejust click the handy new 'disable lua errors' option ;)
09:33.04nymbiathe official fix is probably /console scriptErrors 0
09:33.10vhaarrthe magic option that fixes everything
09:33.15Snarrrr:p
09:33.16nymbiayup
09:33.18NightHawkTheSanehehe
09:33.21vhaarr"look, ma', no errors!"
09:33.36[Ammo]the blizz QA team probably tests with the scripterrors disabled
09:33.39NightHawkTheSaneat least it's disabled by default
09:33.41vhaarrindeed
09:33.49nymbiayup
09:33.53vhaarr[Ammo]: Did you see that error reported on the forums that "only happened with BugSack enabled"?
09:33.56Ominousyea but now all bug reports will be "your addon just dosent work and there are no erros"
09:34.02[Ammo]vhaarr: no, hahaha
09:34.08nymbiagotta simulate the average user's environment, after all.
09:34.10vhaarr[Ammo]: And it turns out it's actually a Blizzard bug.
09:34.20vhaarr[Ammo]: It will probably be fixed in 2.1.1.
09:34.22vhaarr...
09:34.25[Ammo]sigh
09:34.28vhaarr<[Ammo]> the blizz QA team probably tests with the scripterrors disabled
09:34.33vhaarr^ it was just so appropriate
09:34.36[Ammo]yeah
09:34.37nymbiaonly happens with bugsack enabled rofl
09:34.47[Ammo]so bugsack filters that bug now ? :)
09:34.51vhaarrno :P
09:34.53vhaarrI wanted to do that
09:34.55nymbiasee no evil..
09:34.58vhaarrbut then I remembered I don't care about users
09:35.08Iceroth:D
09:35.12[Ammo]haha
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09:35.41Snarrrrumm where's the option? :p
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09:36.02vhaarrummm
09:36.03NightHawkTheSaneinterface options
09:36.06vhaarrwhere are all the interface options?
09:36.08Snarrrrcan't write to the edit box :p
09:36.17Snarrrryeah but can't see it :D
09:36.21NightHawkTheSaneCOOOKIE!
09:36.35NightHawkTheSaneglasses!
09:36.37Snarrrrha there it is
09:36.43vhaarr:o
09:37.27Snarrrrthanks
09:38.01vhaarr~whalecrit blizzard updater
09:38.06purlACTION crits blizzard updater with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. blizzard updater dies
09:38.06evltoo much emotes!
09:38.44vhaarrwhat evl doesn't know is that the trailer is actually a decepticon
09:39.47vhaarrevl: nub
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09:42.05Ominouswell my characters have been restored but all nakid /cry
09:42.17nymbiaouch
09:42.27nymbiamore tickets!
09:42.39Icerothjust spam gms and your mailbox will be stuffed :p
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09:42.57Gnarfozwhy were they deleted?
09:43.09Ominouswtf they restored my epix mount but not my flying mount
09:43.12Usopphi, anyone uses regenfu here?
09:43.14Ominouscos i was hacked
09:43.20Ominousi also have 0c so im screwed
09:43.24sbuerrr
09:43.28sbushadowfiend now has petbar?
09:43.28Brunershow do you get hacked?
09:43.34sbuthis is nice
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09:44.06Ominouswasent from my pc so i was probs when i logged on from a friends
09:44.09nymbiackknight: hawt
09:44.12nymbiackknight: tell me more.
09:44.16ckknightlol
09:44.34Gnarfozyay
09:44.57Gnarfoz"getting hacked" still == "layer 8 error" most of the time, it seems
09:45.07Ominouswhats that
09:45.28GnarfozISO/OSI layer model ;)
09:45.37harldephinoO
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09:45.59CIA-2303daviesh * r36573 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
09:45.59CIA-23AtlasLoot:
09:45.59CIA-23- v3.00.02, capped debugging spam
09:46.31harldephinso what..
09:46.42Ominouswtf... they restored all my bank bags but not char bags
09:46.44harldephinlayer 8 == the stupid guy infront of the machine ?
09:46.59NightHawkTheSaneharldephin: yeah, like a PEBKAC error
09:47.07harldephinlol
09:48.11Icerothdoh, i'm not getting any work done.. EU servers up?
09:48.22BrunersIceroth: some of them are
09:48.31Wille88anyone getting Chatframe.lua:872:Bad argument #1 to 'strmatch' -error?
09:48.48Gnarfozharldephin: you got it right ;>
09:48.52MegalonIceroth: yes, Eu server are up
09:49.12Icerothlol that does it, i'm going home
09:49.21harldephinGnarfoz:)
09:49.44Gnarfozwhy can't I have a place to work that doesn't bore me to death? -.-
09:50.06nymbiaWille88: you and everyone else with a castsquence macro
09:50.47Wille88nymbia: ah. forgot about the change.
09:51.19nymbiaWille88: what change?
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09:56.01CIA-2303totalpackage * r36574 10Capping/ (Capping.toc core.lua):
09:56.01CIA-23Capping
09:56.01CIA-23- updated for changed GetWorldStateUIInfo, EotS and AB now shows estimated scores again
09:58.47Ominousis it worth using one of my reimbursements for 2k gold and all my equipment
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10:01.14harldephinwhat kind of reimbursement
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10:01.22Ominousitem reimbursement
10:02.27Stephmwyou misplaced 2k gold and all your kit?
10:02.27harldephindunno.. isn't that why it's called a reimbursement because it's meant to replace something you're missing?
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10:02.27harldephin[2007/05/23 11:50:19-709-x1]: Sanity2\Sanity.lua:224: AceHook-2.1: Attempt to hook method "SetMerchantCompareItem" failed, it does not exist in the given object "table: 086B4E00".
10:02.28Ominousi had my char recovered after being "hacked" and its empty
10:02.52harldephinyea, i heard of it
10:04.13nymbiaharldephin: yay my error worked ;)
10:04.41harldephinoO
10:04.46NightHawkTheSaneharldephin: antiarc's aware of that error, so
10:04.53harldephinok
10:05.06harldephinno mean to rush
10:05.22StephmwOminous: depending on how much you're expecting to make over the lifetime of your characters and how high the risk of a re-hack is...
10:05.55nymbiaAntiarc|Work: why not use OnTooltipSetItem?
10:06.01NightHawkTheSaneharldephin: well im just letting you know, so he doesn't get bugged a bunch :)
10:06.19harldephinNightHawkTheSane: ok :)
10:06.23nymbiawell, it makes sense
10:06.54nymbiacompare item functions don't exist on the primary tooltip, so it'd be easy enough to write in a skip for those
10:07.05nymbiaif it's GameTooltip that's being hooked
10:07.41nymbiabut unless you need to know the quantity (which i dont think sanity2 does), there's no reason to use those over OnTooltipSetItem
10:08.30Fisker--nymbia !
10:08.34Fisker--what have you done?!
10:08.37nymbia~flee
10:08.46purlACTION runs away screaming
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10:09.15nymbiaFisker--: huh?
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10:10.25Silviu-Ominous how i move the timers in Classtimer ? ;)
10:10.30Ominouslock
10:10.35Ominousin the settings for the group
10:10.40Silviu-Did not find the option
10:10.44Silviu-Oh ok i`ll look
10:10.54Ominous.. /ct bars player lock
10:11.08Fisker--you put some bufftimer on my spells :(
10:11.15Ominouswhat fsiekr
10:11.16Fisker--that's actually nice
10:11.17Silviu-Ok thx :)
10:11.23nymbiaFisker--: lol
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10:11.44Punkie`Ominous: Do you want setbonuses that give effects with trinkets?
10:12.06Ominousadd another catigory and add a localisation for it
10:12.18[Ammo]Ominous: any reason for your own timerbar implementation as opposed to candybar?
10:12.37Silviu-Ominous on bars on dots write ( target ) not the actual name :)
10:12.54Ominousgo to text and read the options
10:12.56Ominousyou can change it :0
10:13.29AKXUhm, where are Quartz' buff bars supposed to be?
10:13.30Ominousurm ammo, as it was easier to implement what i wanted to do in my update with my own bars
10:13.45nymbiaAKX: where you least expect them.
10:14.05nymbiaAKX: i think the default is above the right side of the cast bar
10:14.06AKXnymbia, apparently, cos I don't see them at all.
10:14.08[Ammo]Ominous: maybe I should rephrase: what was missing from candybar?
10:14.30OminousPunkie: you will need to add table['Group Name'] = self:function with item gains in it()
10:14.44Fisker--does pala power support it yet btw?
10:14.45Ominousto on:Init in rulset.ua
10:14.55Punkie`ok Ominous :)
10:15.06nymbiaAKX: targeting something with a buff that shows the cooldown thingy on your unit frames?
10:15.10OminousAmmo: nothing just i couldnt relaly find a way to get it working that was efficient
10:15.12Fisker--btw does it display several bars nymbia?
10:15.18Fisker--depending on the amount of buff/debuffs?
10:15.23AKXHum, nymbia, I'll check that out as soon as I can.
10:15.26nymbiaFisker--: for most people, but not for you.
10:15.36nymbiaAKX: should be able to buff then target yourself
10:15.44AKXAh yes.
10:15.52AKXBwilliant.
10:15.56AKX*Brillant.
10:16.05NightHawkTheSaneif UnitName('player') == 'Fiskerdin' then self:asplode() end
10:16.25nymbiai like it.
10:16.38[Ammo]Ominous: get what working?
10:17.07Wogroipl_can I get Quartz to show my own buffs as well, not only target/focus buffs?
10:17.26[Ammo]if you're saying candybar isn't efficient, I'd like to know what part of it isn't
10:17.29Ominousjust a way to have the bars on, because it meant i had to make a table with seen buffs and then see if they had changed before starting the bat
10:17.35Ominousno i am not syaing it isnt efficient
10:17.43Ominousi loved using it on roguetimerfu
10:17.56nymbiaWogroipl_: not at the moment, no. i've been going back and forth on if i should add that or not
10:18.27AKXAlright, nymbia, I think I'm in love with Quartz <3
10:18.32nymbia:)
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10:19.19Wogroipl_nymbia, maybe you can add it as a seperate module? So ppl can decide if they want it from Quartz or not
10:19.31EgrestI can't get Regenfu to show. Anyone have similar problems.
10:19.48nymbiaWogroipl_: yeah
10:20.08nymbiaEgrest: /dump IsAddOnLoaded('FuBar_RegenFu')
10:20.26Egresthmm ok, will try that
10:20.36Egrestand yes Quartz rocks =)
10:20.55nymbiaEgrest: that'll just check something, let me know what it prints out
10:20.57AKXnymbia: What library are you using for enumerating fonts? Are they shared media?
10:21.00AKXOr something?
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10:21.10nymbiaAKX: yeah
10:21.27Berkzis there any ace updater for the mac?
10:21.28AKXBecause I've been using.. News Gothic Condensed as my Frizqt__ for a long time... It could maybe be added into some font pack.
10:21.40AKXIt looks really sweet in Quartz.
10:22.10nymbiaAKX: the problem with fonts is so many have licensing strings attached
10:22.16AKXYeah, I suppose
10:22.25nymbiaAKX: but if it's free then by all means, get it tossed into sharedmedia
10:22.33Egrestok, I got a nil response and I've checked the box for the addon to be loaded. what next? =)
10:22.41AKXWell, I've no idea where I've got it from nymbia :P
10:23.28AKX(Psytrance reference.)
10:23.29yacoobwheee, bbq!
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10:23.54nymbiaEgrest: the problem is that FuBar's check for loading addons can't detect the mechanizations of the new LoD-style.. for now, /run LoadAddOn('FuBar_RegenFu')
10:24.19ggeorgakaceupdater is broken mates? I get the "has no public version" for every addon
10:24.30Ominousupdate to the new versioN?
10:24.39AKXnymbia: http://akx.ath.cx/quartzfont.jpg
10:24.39Ominouss/versioN/version/
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10:24.45nymbiaggeorgak: view->reloadindex
10:24.50Egrestok, Thanks a lot nymbia! =)
10:24.54ggeorgakkk
10:24.58sbuare alchemy discoverys enabled again?
10:25.11nymbiasbu:  yeah i got arcane fortification lol..
10:25.23nymbiaAKX: nice :)
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10:25.43KinkxFuBar_HonorFu-2.0.33618\HonorFu.lua:309: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'WORLDSTATESCOREFRAME_BASE_WIDTH' (a nil value)
10:25.48abbat_wAkx, what font on you screen?
10:25.49sbunymbia: oh, nice
10:25.53CIA-2303ominous * r36575 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.toc Core.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: now growup works
10:25.59KinkxHonorFu doesn't work in Arenas, won't let you leave the arena if you have HonorFu enabled
10:26.00ggeorgakystem.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (404) Not Found on trying to get aceupdate 1.8
10:26.01Ominouskergoth: fixed, was refrencing a random variable in the options
10:26.12AKXabbat_w, I think it's News Gothic or somesuch.
10:26.22syerenIs anyone good at macros here?
10:26.31syerenI need some help, my macro is causing 100000000 errors now :/
10:26.35syerenAnd it worked perfectly fine.
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10:27.04nymbiasyeren: theres some bugs in the blizzy code, is it throwing an error in chatframe.lua?
10:27.14syerenYes.
10:27.30syerenMy Old Macro was: /cast [target=Eloo-target,harm] Dispel Magic.
10:27.41syerenAnd it causes 50 errors a second without me even pressing it :/
10:28.06CIA-2303ominous * r36576 10ClassTimer/Locales/koKR.lua: ClassTimer: added new koKR
10:28.06NightHawkTheSanebecause "Eloo-target" is not a valid unitid?
10:28.24harldephindamn, my connection to the server's repeatedly breaking up
10:28.31syerennymbia: [2007/05/23 10:52:38-1016-x382]: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:928: Unknown unit token: Eloo-target:
10:28.35syerenAnd a shit load more code ;p
10:28.39NightHawkTheSaneyeah
10:28.57NightHawkTheSane'Eloo-target' is not a valid unit id, thus the errors. it needs to be a standard unit
10:28.59syerenIt's my PVP dispel macro for arena :/
10:29.24CIA-2303nymbia * r36577 10GrindStatus/modules/OutlandFaction.lua:
10:29.24CIA-23GrindStatus:
10:29.24CIA-23- Fix German translation of 'The Mag'har'. Thanks, Caddy!
10:29.39syerenHow can I come up with a solution? Seems as I use click and need to be able to dispel his target when I'm not always able to target them manually.
10:29.44nymbiathose're supposed to work
10:29.51nymbiathey just broke em
10:30.16syerenAnd I guess they won't fix it for some time :/?
10:30.49nymbiai'd give it a couple weeks for a bugfix patch :(
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10:32.46evlWith all these blatant bugs I sometimes wonder if they even do automated testing of their entire codebase
10:33.09Stephmwevl: Ha. Ha. Ha. Hahahahahahaha
10:33.32AKXevl, good one, old chap.
10:33.47evlHow hard can it be to write assert(MyMothersWheelChairAnimation())
10:34.23nymbiaif by 'testing' you mean 'some noobs with scriptErrors set to 0', then yes
10:35.23NightHawkTheSanemeh, they just make sure tehy can compile the wow exes, and call it a day
10:35.47StephmwNightHawkTheSane: yeah, in my old place, we'd call that smoke testing
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10:36.14NightHawkTheSanehehe. my old job called it "cowboying" a release.
10:36.18evlI mean, I even have a complete unit test suite for most my applications and they are meaning less Flash applications... :P
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10:38.59AKXWhat is the Ace solution to move frames on the screen?
10:39.15ilifinvisor2
10:39.20ilifinget visor2gui too
10:39.33ilifinor you'll face->keyboard(smash);
10:39.35AKXFair enough.
10:39.41harldephindamn, where's my WoW's the main menu (Esc) ..
10:39.55AKXilifin, or face:smash(keyboard); maybe?
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10:40.13ilifinI'perly today
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10:42.26Matrix110lol Geolocation of Patch 2.1 DL is funny
10:42.38Matrix11080% of my peers got a Chinese IP atleast
10:42.46nymbiahahaha
10:43.05NightHawkTheSaneawesome
10:43.14Matrix110and 1 from Kazachstan!
10:43.49NightHawkTheSanekazakhstan?
10:44.08Matrix110dunno how you write it in engl. :P
10:45.07Gnarfoz~bored
10:45.23purlLa ... lalalala ... beer!
10:45.23NightHawkTheSanei dont write things in english, i just search and let google write it forme
10:45.32Gnarfozpurl is wise
10:45.34Matrix110thats a good idea:P
10:45.51Matrix110Bit early for beer:P
10:45.59NightHawkTheSanebit late for beer.
10:46.01Gnarfozand I don't drink
10:46.05Necrathexgief server up :(
10:46.13nymbiai'm all out of alchol :(
10:46.16Gnarfozand I'm at work... which is of course, why I am bored in the first place
10:46.27nymbiawow, maybe i'm not and didnt notics.
10:46.30Matrix110atleast you got a IRC client
10:46.40NightHawkTheSanenymbia: lol
10:46.59GnarfozMatrix110: putty/SSH + screen + irssi
10:47.08Gnarfozand: I'm not even allowed
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10:47.36rronkivhey whats up...
10:47.45Gnarfozbut who cares, I'm currently working on making it look more like notepad :D
10:47.46Matrix110the eu servers not
10:48.06Ominouseu are up
10:48.09Ominouswell stormrage is
10:49.30Gnarfozmine is, too, but 12minutes till break :>
10:49.30ilifinGnarfoz, hahaha multiplayer notepad
10:49.30rronkivis it just me, or has alot of the mods, even thow "load disabled addons" is enabled and they all claim to be ok at that point, some actually still dont work?
10:49.30ilifintell me if you make it look like notepad
10:49.30ilifinI'm gonna steal the setup :p
10:49.30Gnarfozilifin: bash.org ftw
10:49.31ilifinmy boss twitches if he sees a black window with white text in on my screen
10:49.31Punkie`Is anyone else getting line numbers after playernames in chat? :p
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10:49.31harldephinnot me
10:49.31Gnarfozilifin: basically changing the putty default colors for background etc. to their inverse does  a lot already
10:49.46GnarfozPunkie`: update SCM if you're using it
10:49.56ilifinGnarfoz, considering my irssi theme is rather wicked and thoroughly bloated.. would hurt my eyes on a white screen
10:50.04Gnarfozguess so
10:50.22GnarfozI'm on default theme, looking for one that works better on light backgroudn colors
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10:50.35Gnarfozfoxmask looks good
10:50.54Laricworkhow do I use 'seen' on purl?
10:50.56KinkxIs there any way to revert the Shaman color to how it used to be somehow?
10:51.05GnarfozLaricwork: ~seen <name>
10:51.11GnarfozKinkx: use ClassColors
10:51.12Laricwork~seen Phanx
10:51.39purli haven't seen 'phanx', Laricwork
10:51.40sbuMatrix110: ofcourse they are
10:51.53DiaoPhanx!n=Phanx133@71-217-227-228.blng.qwest.net was last seen 20 day 12 hr 55 min 1 s ago on #wowace
10:51.56Diao:P
10:52.02Diaofrom my personal database
10:52.06KinkxGnarfoz, thanks :)
10:52.11Matrix110oh your right they are now
10:52.11Laricworkdiao ty
10:52.18nymbiapurl, you suck
10:52.26purland very well I might add
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10:53.39Matrix110the new Shaman color sucks omg
10:53.48Gnarfozilifin: also, changing the window title to Untitled - Editor helps
10:53.49Borked|Raiderwhats the best choise now instead of aguf?
10:53.51AKXWoo nymbia, pretty logout bar \o/
10:53.54Diaoonce again afk!
10:53.56ilifinhahaha
10:54.07Gnarfozthe icon is kind of wrong, tho
10:54.19BrunersBorked|Raider: pitbul
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10:55.06nymbiaAKX: :)
10:55.07Laricworkanyone knows where the latest phanxchat is updated?
10:55.49Gnarfozilifin: a goal would be something like this for notepad: http://irssi.org/themefiles/c0ders.png
10:58.00Brunerswow wont load :( even without any addons
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10:58.55KinkxHeh, does anyone have the RGB for the old Shaman color? :)
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11:00.25NightHawkTheSaneKinkx: try 24A992 ?
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11:01.10NightHawkTheSanethats in hex to be sure, but converting it isn't rocket surgery
11:02.05nymbialemme take a gander at the framexml diff and see if i can find it
11:03.14nymbia..where's that crap defined?
11:03.59NightHawkTheSaneAlso, damn. MacFuse & MacFusion is hot.
11:04.49evlcmd
11:04.49evloh wait, this ain't the Run window
11:04.49NightHawkTheSane>
11:04.49KinkxRAID_CLASS_COLORS["SHAMAN"]
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11:06.23nymbiawhere the snark is that defined??
11:06.28Brunerswow loads its bar full and then just stops, i have disabled all addons, removed WTF and WDB, but still wont load. any tips?
11:07.04[Ammo]nymbia: font.xml
11:07.05[Ammo]or sometihng
11:07.08nymbiayup
11:07.09[Ammo]it's in the font settings file
11:07.47NecrathexBruners: half my guild has that problem, probably just server being nasty
11:08.25Necrathexbut other realms seem fine
11:08.42NecrathexBruners: which one are you on?
11:08.53BrunersEmerald dream eu
11:08.58CIA-2303nymbia * r36578 10FuBar_ModMenuTuFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_ModMenuTuFu.toc Libs/):
11:08.58CIA-23FuBar_ModMenuTuFu:
11:08.58CIA-23- Removed Compost
11:09.15Necrathexazjol-nerub EU here
11:09.26Brunersi get character screen and all, but stops after the bar is full on loading
11:09.37Kinkx["SHAMAN"] = { r = 0, g = 0.86, b = 0.73 }, :D
11:09.49nevcairielso agUF stopped working ?
11:09.52KinkxOld color :)
11:10.01KinkxSo much better
11:10.09NightHawkTheSanebah, i was close
11:10.24Brunersooh cool
11:10.35Brunersi got in, and they have changed the unholy weapon glow :)
11:10.50nymbianevcairiel: i think it works fine, it just suffered from the same problems that everything else did when autobar was enabled
11:11.56ilifinGnarfoz, any luck?
11:12.08ilifinGnarfoz - I disabled ANSI colors for my terminal now, and it's currently white :p
11:14.20nevcairieltwo guildmates of mine already said that agUF stopped working
11:15.23bindiwhats the !swatter folder in my addons folder? i can't remember i ever installed an addon called like that
11:15.24CIA-2303nymbia * r36579 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua:
11:15.24CIA-23FuBar_PerformanceFu:
11:15.24CIA-23- Don't let the defaults override the showProfilingAlert setting.
11:16.07abbat_wbtw guys
11:16.10nevcairielbindi: its part of the auctioneer package, if you use BugSack and BugGrabber, feel free to remove it
11:16.18abbat_wtonight i play with pitbull and sct
11:16.29bindioh, that explains, thanks nevcairiel
11:16.30abbat_wi have turn on combat flag on sct
11:16.48abbat_wAnd i have about ~ 1 sec lag if sct report what i'm in combat now
11:17.07[Ammo]it's the built in french lag generator :p
11:17.07abbat_wIt's just with Pitbull. If i use aguf - all works fine, no lags
11:17.37[Ammo]abbat_w: report it on the forms
11:17.39[Ammo]forums
11:18.02abbat_wI read forums before ask. No one report this. Probably problem with another mods
11:18.27abbat_wI think almost all ppl use SCT
11:18.37syerenIn a macro.
11:18.45syerenHow do I stop my target or go back to my old one :/
11:18.51[Ammo]I don't use SCT
11:18.54syerenSeems as I have to rework my macro -_-
11:18.55abbat_w/target lasttarget?
11:18.59[Ammo]I tried it again a week agao
11:19.00syerenOkay, thanks :)
11:19.10[Ammo]and MSBT is a lot smoother
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11:19.21abbat_wmsbt works like sct?
11:19.25[Ammo]I estimate it has half the increasing mem rate of SCT and I get a lot more fps as well
11:19.30[Ammo]sometihng is fishy with sct
11:19.47Ominousmsbt?
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11:19.59Punkie`MSBT doesn't have rainbow effect though :(
11:20.03knarf-Mike Scrolling Battle Text
11:20.11abbat_wcan i make events like frostbite report (sct check target debufs and report if frostbite found) with msbt?
11:20.20knarf-MSBT needs some more animations :P
11:20.25Punkie`yup
11:20.34[Ammo]you can easily register your own animations with msbt
11:20.43[Ammo]it's pretty modular
11:20.45Ominousis it on the svn
11:20.54[Ammo]no, but who cares
11:21.05Ominous<-- is lazy
11:21.16[Ammo]not everything on the svn is holy
11:21.21Ominousi know
11:21.22[Ammo]not everything outside the svn is bad
11:21.27Ominousi know
11:21.29Ominousi am just lazy
11:22.00Punkie`Ominous: next time say 'an' SVN to stop ammo from biting :D
11:22.13abbat_wkk, i'll try msbt. because i like bar fader and party targets on PitBull
11:22.32Ominouspinkie: :D
11:22.43Ominousurm punkie: :D **
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11:23.47abbat_wAnd i hope after patch i never receive FrameXML errors ;)
11:23.58AKXHmm
11:24.05[Ammo]tough luck on that one abbat
11:24.08AKXThis was the first time my connection got killed by a cat.
11:24.23[Ammo]blizzard's QA department tested with scripting errors disabled
11:24.26CIA-2303punkie * r36580 10Aloft/Options/AloftOptions.toc: Aloft: AloftOptions.toc bumped to 20100
11:24.28[Ammo]so they never saw the obvious mistakes
11:24.42abbat_wergh...
11:24.47nymbiait's so pathetic that it's probably true :(
11:25.32bindiis anyone able to send me outfitter 3.0? it kinda fails to download here and its still my favorite gear addon :<
11:25.55fruchtWAU = the updater?
11:26.01abbat_wyep
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11:27.05LuckyLucianois there any *quick* way i can get all my addons working again?
11:27.06abbat_wups
11:27.09LuckyLuciano*al my ace2 addons
11:27.12LuckyLuciano*all
11:27.21abbat_whalf page on wowinterface if nymbia releases ;)
11:27.25abbat_wif=is
11:27.32nymbiaabbat_w: that's how i roll ;)
11:27.58nymbiaLuckyLuciano: wau
11:28.04abbat_wbtw
11:28.05nymbiaLuckyLuciano: see topic
11:28.18abbat_wAbout update way
11:28.19LuckyLucianoelk seems to be the only one thats working :P
11:28.36abbat_wNow it's completly safe to update addons with wau with 'update with externals'?
11:28.53nymbiaprobably
11:29.00nymbiaif it breaks, i didnt do it.
11:29.03abbat_wor best way is get libs in AddOns root and update w/o externals?
11:29.21nymbiaeither way
11:29.55LuckyLucianoive never used wau before, is it quite cimple to use?  I've recently made the switch to haivng 99.9% of my addons as Ace2
11:30.04LuckyLucianodropped all CT mods for Ace2 ones
11:30.05LuckyLucianoetc
11:30.11LuckyLuciano*simple
11:30.13fruchtyes, very simple
11:30.29fruchtload it up, ignore the back up message and press f10
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11:30.58a-stray-catdoes f10 update with or without externals?
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11:31.14abbat_wwith
11:31.18Brunerswithout
11:31.27fruchtor was it f12?
11:31.30abbat_wAre update w/o externals have own hotkey?
11:31.33fruchtwell, just use the menu :P
11:32.46rronkivwhats the diffrance between with/with out?
11:32.59LuckyLucianoi see it is simple, thanks :)
11:33.39CIA-2303tornhoof * r36581 10Yata/Yata.toc:
11:33.39CIA-23Yata:
11:33.39CIA-23- bump to 2.1, memory and cpu usage looks fine
11:33.51LuckyLucianoyay, i love yata
11:33.56LuckyLuciano^_-
11:34.00abbat_wif you update w/o externals, wau dl only mode code, w/o any external libs
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11:34.25abbat_wif you update with externals, wau dl mode code and externals libraries. and put it into mod dir
11:34.41abbat_wthis is the difference
11:35.53LuckyLucianoty, off to see if my stupid server is stable enough to play on yet :)
11:36.41Borked|Raideralot are getting crit errors on target something, anyone got some info about that
11:38.15Gnarfozilifin: nah, not tried anything new yet, break time ^^
11:38.37Gnarfozwow crashed on me, tho... >_> http://ace.pastey.net/38763
11:39.07OminousPunkie': ping
11:39.16CIA-2303nymbia * r36582 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua:
11:39.16CIA-23FuBar_PerformanceFu:
11:39.16CIA-23- The OnAccept and OnCancel funcs don't seem to like passing a reason. Switch 'never again' to OnAccept and make it not depend on a reason, as we don't want smacking escape to kill the message forever.
11:40.42Punkie`Ominous: hola
11:40.53Gnarfozhrm
11:40.54Ominouspunkie: hows those effect adding going?
11:41.14rronkivhey i have a importent question about the libraries,
11:41.15Gnarfozckknight: would there be any reason for pitbull to nuke all settings with 2.1?
11:41.26Punkie`Ominous: I've just added in the base, but not commiting it until I properly test it later (at work atm)
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11:41.41rronkivif i put every file in every \lib\ directory in my addon's directory, into a addons\libs\ directory
11:41.48Legorolckknight: do you have plans to make Cartographer work with the rotating minimap?
11:41.56Punkie`also, I will add a new table for temporary potion buffs if that's ok (Insane Strength for instance)
11:42.00rronkivwould i be able to delete them from inside the addons\name\libs\ directory?
11:42.18Gnarfozrronkiv: look up standalone libraries on the wiki
11:42.27abbat_wrronkiv, only if you have libs in you AddOns or in another mod dir
11:42.45OminousPunkie' add what you want, if i hate it i will just delete it :) but that is why i have it as toggable options of what to show
11:42.47abbat_wi mean not dir libs, but actual libs
11:43.11Punkie`Ominous: ^^
11:43.14rronkivwell the thing is, i dont want to have all the stand alone ALL the stand alone, i just wanna have the ones my mods need.
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11:43.30Brunersi hate patchdays :S
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11:44.33abbat_wrronkiv, maybe best way for if manual dl standalone libraries from wowace, unpack and put empty dirs into \Interface\Addons\
11:44.57evlNothing makes me more aroused than Windows Update using 100% CPU and killing my box
11:44.59abbat_wAfter this you can just run WAU, press f4 (select all mods) and do 'update w/o externals'
11:45.01rronkivwhy have the directory just to be empty
11:45.03CIA-2303saroz * r36583 10Acceptance/Acceptance.toc: Acceptance: toc update
11:45.16abbat_wrronkiv, wau fill dirs in update process
11:45.44Gnarfozjust do the normal standalone libraries procedure
11:45.45rronkivok im fucking lost, i'll just go with the libraris, thats with ext right?
11:45.51Gnarfozand delete the ons you don't need
11:46.02CIA-2303saroz * r36584 10Cartographer_Cleanup/Cartographer_Cleanup.toc: Cartographer_Cleanup: toc update
11:46.03the_squidanyone having problems with the auth servers atm, or is it something my end
11:46.08Gnarfozif you don't know, why bother anyway, just get them with externals ^^
11:46.16rronkivty
11:46.32Gnarfozmy wow crashes when I alt-tab back in
11:46.34Gnarfozgreat :D
11:46.37Sarozdid they improve login times? I just fly in now
11:46.38rronkivi'm just trying to think of ways in inprove my preformance.
11:47.08GnarfozSaroz: they improved lua loading times, I heard
11:47.16CIA-2303saroz * r36585 10FuBar_AlchemyFu/FuBar_AlchemyFu.toc: FuBar_AlchemyFu: toc update
11:47.19Sarozit's insanely fast here
11:47.31nymbiaSaroz: yeah they sped things up a bit
11:47.34Sarozand sw_stats tops the memory meter, go figure :p
11:47.44Gnarfozrophy: the only time having standalone libraries instead of embeds will net a performance increase is on the initial login
11:47.52Gnarfozerr
11:47.57Gnarfozrronkiv, not rophy, sorry
11:48.06abyssichateis WAU not working for anybody else ? Whenever I update the marked addons I get "Updating cached file index... done." but no addon gets actually updated :s
11:48.24nymbiaabyssichate: view->reload index
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11:48.37abyssichateI've done that thousands times
11:48.48abyssichateI get an exception not handled by the application then
11:48.49Brunersabyssichate: have you downloaded the latest WAU ?
11:48.52abyssichateyeah
11:49.40CIA-2303nymbia * r36586 10Fence/Fence.toc:
11:49.40CIA-23Fence:
11:49.40CIA-23- toc -> 20100
11:49.41abyssichatethis is what I get: http://ace.pastey.net/38768
11:49.43harldephinthe gun is good. the penis is evil.
11:49.54abyssichateWhat I do is marking all addons and updating them without exts
11:50.29harldephini do it the same way
11:50.34CIA-2303nymbia * r36587 10FuBar_MiniClockFu/FuBar_MiniClockFu.toc:
11:50.34CIA-23FuBar_MiniClockFu:
11:50.34CIA-23- toc -> 20100
11:50.51harldephinwau 1.8.23
11:50.54abyssichateyup
11:51.20CIA-2303nymbia * r36588 10JumpCounter/JumpCounter.toc:
11:51.20CIA-23JumpCounter:
11:51.21CIA-23- toc -> 20100
11:51.54CIA-2303nymbia * r36589 10GloryLib/GloryLib.toc:
11:51.54CIA-23.Glory-2.0:
11:51.54CIA-23- toc -> 20100
11:52.10abyssichateoh well
11:52.28CIA-2303nymbia * r36590 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.toc:
11:52.28CIA-23Waterfall-1.0:
11:52.28CIA-23- toc -> 20100
11:52.42Icerothsorren around in any form?
11:52.44AKXCartographer GetCurrentVelocity == nil?
11:52.49JoshBorkewhy are script errors turned on?
11:52.53CIA-2303nymbia * r36591 10MobHealth/MobHealth.toc:
11:52.53CIA-23MobHealth3:
11:52.53CIA-23- toc -> 20100
11:53.09harldephini'm having connection problems as well, but that's neither wau's nor my fault. it's a general misbehaviour of some of the servers near my current location
11:53.23Icerothsm:Register("statusbar", "Steel", "Interface\\AddOns\\sandbox\\Textures\\steel.tga");
11:53.23JoshBorkePitBull? - if this is the first time logging into WoW 2.1, enable scriptErrors.?
11:53.28Icerothwhat is this "sandbox" -.-
11:53.44[Ammo]pitbull = alpha and I suspect that's why ckk turns on errors to get debug messages
11:54.06nymbiahe doesnt want bug reports from people hiding errors, afaik
11:54.27a-stray-catIceroth: hi
11:54.30a-stray-catoh
11:54.33a-stray-cati am stupid
11:54.36a-stray-cati will fix that now.
11:54.52Icerothalso getting tons of 2007/05/23 13:40:23-2349-x77]: SorrenTimers-2.1\SorrenTimers.lua:559: bad argument #1 to 'gsub' (string expected, got nil)
11:55.26a-stray-catinteresting
11:55.38a-stray-catline 599 for me is a comment
11:55.53IcerothO.o
11:55.54[Ammo]up-to-date?
11:56.30Iceroth559: display = string.gsub(db.defaults.targetstring, "$target", name);
11:56.36a-stray-catyes, because i cant read.
11:56.41a-stray-cat559 ~= 599, does it
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11:57.29a-stray-catcan you do /dump SorrenTimers.db.char.defaults.targetstring for me?
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11:58.04abbat_whmm.. what /dump do?
11:58.06Iceroth"empty result"
11:58.11a-stray-catthats very strange
11:58.12Icerothit's devtools command
11:58.19abbat_wah
11:58.21a-stray-catif its an empty result, then it should be filled in via defaults
11:58.23a-stray-catshouldn't it?
11:58.24JoshBorkeit's provided by AceConsole
11:58.28nymbiaaceconsole implements it as well
11:58.29a-stray-catits provided by both :X
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11:58.37Icerothwell i'll purge my settings, i guess the old->new db thing didn't quite work out
11:58.56nymbiaa-stray-cat: yeah it should
11:59.13a-stray-catif you reload, it doesnt go away?
11:59.16a-stray-catthe line 559 one?
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12:00.17Icerothlemme test, purging settings
12:00.26a-stray-catnono without purging i mean
12:00.26Icerothjust give me back my pretty bars :p
12:00.48Icerothas it affects all of the the sharedmedia addons
12:01.06a-stray-cat:X well for a temp fix, you can change the sandbox in those lines to SorrenTimers
12:01.28a-stray-catthat was a silly mistake by me, since i have a copy of those in sandbox still after i moved everything to SorrenTimers
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12:02.18syerenCan anyone update MendWatch so you don't get 1000000000000000 errors when you do PoM?
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12:02.44Icerothok, got proper value for the target string now
12:02.58nymbiathat's very odd
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12:03.10nymbiait should revert to the default as soon as it's nilled.
12:03.47a-stray-catif you reload after its nilled, right? not immediately after?
12:03.49abbat_wbtw
12:04.00abbat_wi think it's time to do netherdrake quests
12:04.02Icerothi purged the sorrentimersdb and reloaded
12:04.05nymbialet me look, actually... lol
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12:04.11abbat_wmods will be fixed in 2-3 days
12:04.27nymbiapft, mine were fixed a month ago ;)
12:04.28abbat_wso, those days can be filled with netherdrake grind
12:04.39abbat_wi think this grind can be done with default ui ;)
12:04.40Gnarfozgreat
12:04.44CIA-2303daviesh * r36592 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
12:04.44CIA-23Babble-2.2:
12:04.44CIA-23- Added french placeholders for Hyjal Summit
12:04.50Gnarfozdidn't they say they'd improve the LFG tool?
12:04.58abbat_wlfg channel
12:05.01Gnarfozdidn't change a damn thing >_>
12:05.07abbat_wwhich accessible from lfg tools
12:05.11Gnarfozand they messed that one up, too.
12:05.20*** join/#wowace trh (n=hmmm@e179053052.adsl.alicedsl.de)
12:05.28Gnarfozit simply joins the channel... depending on the client's language
12:05.29a-stray-catIceroth: it should have fixed itself on one reload ui though
12:05.31a-stray-catif you were getting that error
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12:05.40Gnarfozso now I'm in the english LFG channel on a german server
12:05.42a-stray-cat(without purging)
12:05.46Gnarfozand can't join the german channel anymore :D
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12:05.55trhGnarfoz: lol, did they bugged it again?
12:06.06Gnarfoztrh: yep, enGB joins LookingForGroup regardless of server
12:06.14nymbiaa-stray-cat: you're right, takes a reload ;)
12:06.19trhGnarfoz: ah well.. if it's only LFG i can live with it
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12:06.24Gnarfozand since SucheNachGruppe is now a server-side channel again, enGB clients can't join it
12:06.35Elkano_Gnarfoz: those in thwe German LFG channel would be too stupid to play with anyways ;)
12:06.36a-stray-catim not sure why you got that error though
12:06.39Gnarfoztrh: my server sucks so bad for PUGs, I had hopes it would improve the situation
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12:06.48GnarfozElkano_: got a point there
12:06.50syerennymbia, fix Mend Watch you hero :(
12:06.52a-stray-catif you had a previous version, that shouldn't have been nil because that was in that versions defaults too
12:06.58trhGnarfoz: 1 simple rule: never do pugs :)
12:07.05Gnarfoztrh: no choice -.-
12:07.16nymbiasyeren: i've never even heard of it O.o
12:07.18trhGnarfoz: guild groups :)
12:07.36Gnarfozguild is 8 chars on 4 accounts big
12:07.39Gnarfoz:#
12:08.07nymbiauh-oh, daviesh is breakin' babble already >.>
12:08.10trhGnarfoz: err.. that sucks =)
12:08.26vodrinso whats the varible for shamans raid colour
12:08.28syerennymbia: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6576-MendWatch.html
12:08.34Gnarfoza bit, yes
12:08.37vodrinand how do i change it to a colour without crap contrast
12:08.38trh... i had to delete my WDB folder so to get some of my icons back.. very strange :)
12:08.41vodrinlike the one before :<
12:08.43nevcairielthat atlas loot guy is weird, he even stopped using externals now
12:09.01nymbiadoes he have physical copies or what?
12:09.23CIA-2303sorren * r36593 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers.lua:
12:09.23CIA-23SorrenTimers:
12:09.23CIA-23- I fail at sharing media.
12:09.30a-stray-catwell, at least that's fixed.
12:09.30nymbiahe definitely doesnt understand how babble's fallbacks work
12:09.33trhwell.. on some way i can understand him =)
12:09.42vhaarrHe tried using dev.wowace.com for externals, I think.
12:09.45nymbiaand he put spaces in a tabbed file >.>
12:09.55vhaarrtrh: So can I, because he's not in here, and doesn't want to be part of the community.
12:10.00vhaarrSo he can go fuck himself for all I care.
12:10.04Brunersbuffalo or buffalo2 ?
12:10.11Sarozfucks sake, CT_RaidTracker is such a nasty mod
12:10.15nymbiaBruners: for now buffalo i think
12:10.25evl_Who's winning the CPU/MEM contest after patch? :D
12:10.27abbat_wBuffalo works fine
12:10.30abbat_wBuffalo2 too
12:10.32nymbiaevl_: me!
12:10.34[Ammo]evl_: I can!
12:10.39abbat_wBut Buffalo2 have GUI with waterfall ;)
12:10.42trhvhaarr: well.. i mean sometimes the "stable" libraries aren't that stable... but it's rarely the case
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12:10.52a-stray-catWoW took up a full 900MB of ram today. that probably had nothing to do with the UI though ;P
12:10.53vhaarrtrh: that has nothing to do with this.
12:10.56evl_Oh snap, it was optimus baby!
12:11.13[Ammo]the atlasloot guy only uses the wowace svn to distribute it via files.wowace.com
12:11.18evl_a-stray-cat: new photoshop CS6 pulls 1.6gb of ram without any files loaded :D
12:11.30a-stray-catcs6?
12:11.32evl_CS3
12:11.32a-stray-catwhen did this happen!
12:11.35evl_even :P
12:11.36trhevl_: omg :)
12:11.39Sarozwhich buffs returns duration?
12:11.51a-stray-catis cs3 out yet?
12:11.52trhSaroz: the ones you casted yourself i think
12:11.53a-stray-cator still in beta?
12:11.56Sarozmeeeh
12:12.05evl_a-stray-cat: yeah, but it sucks ass, we uninstalled it and returned the boxes at work :D
12:12.10evl_a-stray-cat: it's so buggy it's not even funny.
12:12.14nymbiai'm suprised he didn't break the encoding on babble-boss... but there's still a bunch of things wrong with what he just committed.
12:12.17a-stray-catthe retail version?
12:12.49evl_a-stray-cat: yes, Production suite for like 2000€ a pop
12:12.58a-stray-catouch :<
12:13.41a-stray-catits clear to me that i need more ram
12:13.47a-stray-catill have to figure out wth kind of ram i have now
12:14.03a-stray-catrunning WoW and firefox together puts me at like 90%
12:14.08trhi still can't imagine what photoshop does to fill up 1.6gb with a simple ui
12:14.10a-stray-catcuz vista steals like 40%
12:14.19a-stray-cati think most of it's scratch
12:14.26trha-stray-cat: get 2gb for vista.. it's enough :)
12:14.32a-stray-cati have 2gb :<
12:14.38trhit's enough then :)
12:14.49trhas long as you don't want to run photoshop + wow ;)
12:14.54a-stray-cat>.>
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12:15.03a-stray-catbut then, how will i convert my screenshots!
12:15.16evl_I used to have 1GB; then my boss started to lag on his laptop while playing DoTA so he upgraded everyone to 2GB, yay lag!
12:15.16SarozAnyone know what SetMerchantCompareItem got changed to?
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12:15.32a-stray-catevl_: niice
12:15.44a-stray-catare you fixing sanity? <3
12:15.48dRiN:)
12:15.50nymbiaSaroz: SetHyperlinkCompareItem
12:15.52dRiNSanity! :D
12:15.55Sarozty nymbia
12:16.15nymbiaSaroz: replaced all the Set*CompareItem things
12:16.38CIA-2303saroz * r36594 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Remove 2.0 stuff
12:17.35Saladinu bettar
12:18.10a-stray-cati guess other mods are having problems with that function ;P
12:18.17CIA-2303saroz * r36595 10ItemLevelDKP/core.lua: ItemLevelDKP: Fix hook
12:18.19SarozI can't make people maintanks, throws me a taint error
12:18.20Sarozgg
12:18.35SaladinSaroz: too many red sausages can do that to UI
12:18.40wobinsedatedChipmunk: omg, adorable =)
12:18.51abbat_wtrh ;)
12:19.08Saladinor danish beer
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12:19.28evl_This is madness!
12:19.29evl_THIS IS RØD PØLSE!!!
12:19.29abbat_wtrh, photoshop typically need about pic size*10 memory for editing
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12:19.56abbat_wso, 160mb pic and you got 1.6gb ram
12:19.56evl_abbat_w: CS3 pulls so much more, the UI alone pulls like fucking 750mb :P
12:20.07abbat_wpff...
12:20.20SaladinTONIGHT WE DINE AT RØD PØLSEBOD!!!
12:20.28abbat_wanother applicaion which use all installed memory ;(
12:20.41evl_abbat_w: on mac it runs like silk ofc :(
12:21.03a-stray-catclearly i should acquire osx and install it on this computer.
12:21.12a-stray-cati have a guildie who has a mac thats not a mac :X
12:21.15evl_I'm not getting another PC
12:21.30evl_a-stray-cat: what's he running it on?
12:21.38a-stray-catits a core2duo pc
12:21.45a-stray-catwhich, i guess, is what a mac is
12:21.52a-stray-catbut he built it himself
12:22.33a-stray-catit aparantly took some doing to get it working, but he likes it
12:22.36evl_I'd be curious to see how he can run OSX on a non mac
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12:22.53evl_since the kernel won't load without a chip match
12:22.54omega_its not really hard
12:22.54CIA-2303phyber * r36596 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
12:22.55CIA-23XPBarNone:
12:22.55CIA-23- Added a check to the createXPBar() function to check if the XP bar had already been created. Needed since the function to create the XPBar was moved into :OnEnable().
12:23.09a-stray-catim sure its not a kosher version of osx ;O
12:23.10omega_there are several osx 10.4 releases that boot on non-apple hardware
12:23.24evl_is 10.4 the newest?
12:23.24omega_more or less legit, since the kernel in os x is opensource
12:23.29omega_10.4.9
12:23.34abbat_ware now apple hardware have diference with pc hardware?
12:23.36omega_10.5 is comming in october, or so they said
12:23.47omega_well, it doesnt have a BIOS for starters
12:23.56abbat_wups
12:24.04abbat_wdoesn't have bios ;)
12:24.08abbat_wahah ;)
12:24.11omega_if you call that hardware I guess is a matter of opinion
12:24.38abbat_wsure it's hardware
12:24.57omega_not really, but close enough I guess
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12:27.33yacoobit's firmware :P
12:27.44abbat_wbtw someone have 2.1.0 patch from any version for enGB client?
12:28.04Matrix110doesnt exist yet i guess
12:28.10abbat_wah
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12:28.31trhyeah but http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors has a lot of single files
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12:29.18abbat_wi already update my client. but plan to reinstall home computer and cummulative patch be better for update process ;)
12:29.23evl_abbat_w: www.patchitbaby.com
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12:32.28[Ammo]abbat_w: just backup your whole wow folder
12:32.30[Ammo]and copy it back
12:33.08omega_yacoob: yeah, which lies somewhere between soft and hard :p
12:33.22abbat_wI always try new mods and my config files fill with garbage now i think
12:33.35[Ammo]you can delete WTF foldefr
12:33.41[Ammo]and keep everything else
12:33.45[Ammo]saves you downloading patches again
12:33.50sbuhaha
12:33.57sbuflask bug
12:34.02nymbia?
12:34.25sbudistilled wisdom +30k mana
12:34.31Gnarfoz2k int, actually
12:34.38abbat_w=)
12:35.03Gnarfozdo old flasks work? or just when you had the effect on you when the servers went down
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12:36.29nevcairielsbu: with every distilled wisdom or only when you had one active?
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12:37.05vhaarronly when you had one active
12:37.18nevcairiel:( ^^
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12:38.06Azurewratherm.. did Shamans get a new Class Color or is Prat Playernames fooling me?
12:38.06zoktaranyone know if u can get estimated health in tinytip ?
12:38.14evl_Azurewrath: new
12:38.18[Ammo]they got a new color
12:38.32Azurewrathhow ugly... i can hardly read that dark blue..
12:38.45kenlyricyeah, it's pretty monkey.
12:39.01nymbiayeah it's too dark imo
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12:39.33Brunersname a good castingbar
12:39.37evl_Quartz
12:39.43kenlyricpitbull
12:39.47kenlyric;)
12:39.49[Ammo]AmmosCastingBarofDewm
12:39.52abbat_wpfff....
12:39.55kenlyricaguf
12:39.57evl_[Ammo]: WMD?
12:39.58abbat_woCB!
12:40.03abbat_wthe best ;)
12:40.03nymbiaTitan Panel!
12:40.05nymbiawait.
12:40.20nymbiaum....
12:40.23nymbiauh...
12:40.26nymbiaCT_Raid?
12:40.40nymbianah
12:40.43Elkano_Cosmos?
12:40.49kenlyricACE
12:40.59[Ammo]oh noes kenlyric said the evil word
12:41.03nymbiai'll go with DeadlyBossMods
12:41.10kenlyricElkano did it first.
12:41.28Elkano_did you know that penis filters into penis?
12:41.29Azurewrath50mb auctioneer database would be a rather good castbar i guess.
12:42.23nymbiasome days, i want to look at how auctioneer stores their data to get it so big
12:42.29nymbiaother days..
12:42.31nymbia~flee
12:42.44purlACTION runs away screaming
12:42.44kenlyricso, I have a friend who won't use ace mods either because he thinks the code is thrown together by howler monkeys (and this is the guy who introduced me to RDX), or he thinks the guy who wrote Ace is a scientologist. I can't decide which reason is more dumb.
12:42.44Elkano_most likely iot simply stores...
12:43.00evl_Tom Cruise in your pants.
12:43.02kenlyricnymbia  the same way lootlink does, but storing everything.
12:43.13abbat_wkenlyric, hes name is Lozareth? :)
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12:43.28kenlyricscientologist I would think would be very good with technology.
12:44.24[Ammo]kenlyric: haha, tell your friend to stick with his own addons but steer clear of us
12:45.15Egrestwow, I hope yr friend is purely imaginary
12:45.20evl_Perhaps label all the Ace addons with HERPES WARNING
12:45.41Kalman|kenlyric: I think you should look up scientology.  I do not think it means what you think it means.
12:45.56Elkano_"Enjoy your Aids!" ?
12:45.58evlwookietell him xenu's souls wrote ace and that its magical
12:46.08kenlyricKalman|: they love science, right? ;)
12:46.09[Ammo]it means sending shitloads of money to a sectarian church
12:46.23[Ammo]and getting flimsy books in return
12:46.28Kalman|kenlyric: I just wanted an excuse to reference the Princess Bride, really.
12:46.28Egrestlol
12:46.33kenlyricso, was anyone on ace ever a scientologist?
12:46.42trhkenlyric: hehe.. ya.. aliens that got thrown into a vulcane and their bad spirits are guilty for everything bad in the world.. very sciency explanation :)
12:46.44kenlyricand is that why it is great/sucks so bad/eats babies?
12:46.59Elkano_ammo, better send your money to me... I won't even send you books in return...
12:47.15kenlyrictrh: sciency like truthiness.
12:47.27kenlyricI like books :(
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12:47.55[Ammo]oh yeah the aliens
12:47.55trhkenlyric: i'd change the k to a b and then sign it ;)
12:48.01[Ammo]I forgot about that part of scientology
12:48.41Chomperszenu?
12:48.49[Ammo]yarr
12:48.50trhthat fake diagnostic stuff is also fun =)
12:48.59Chompersnasty theeeetans
12:49.33[Ammo]it's like someone read a good SciFi book and thought 'heck! I can make money out of this!'
12:49.46Kalman|s/read/wrote
12:49.46kenlyricno, he wrote them :)
12:49.55trhammo: wasn't the inventor of scientology like 24/7 drugged with lsd?
12:49.57kenlyricand, he was half drunk when he said that :)
12:50.33kenlyricno, he was at a bar, drinking with a friend, when the friend said "you know, there's no money in that writing junk you do. You should start a religion"
12:50.41trhhehe
12:50.50kenlyricthere are dozens of people, still alive, who witnessed it.
12:51.44kenlyricat least joseph smith was smart enough to not have any witnesses.
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12:53.07kenlyricguess I should see if cellular got update, or if I need to destroy it.
12:54.42kenlyricnote to self: no more whisper mods that can actually eat the whispers.
12:55.30CIA-2303usz * r36597 10TooltipExchange/TooltipExchange.toc:
12:55.30CIA-23TooltipExchange
12:55.30CIA-23- Updated to 20100
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12:57.32CIA-2303rabbit * r36598 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Bugfix, thanks jerry.
12:58.55esransooo, anyone having vanishing tolltip issues?
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12:59.21DeathraWhat do you mean?
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12:59.47esranlog in and they're fine. within a couple of minutes they start vanishing just after they appear
12:59.56steev64not i
13:00.02DeathraErr, nope
13:00.42steev64though my stance bar ha(d)(s) a tencency to move when i enter an instance which got annoying, likewise the target window would randomly show back up - the default target window
13:01.19steev64and the patch is failing for me under cedega
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13:02.15CIA-2303phyber * r36599 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
13:02.15CIA-23Fizzle:
13:02.15CIA-23- Small changes.
13:02.25Yasuouse windows for patching
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13:02.51steev64easier said than done
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13:03.01Yasuowhy
13:03.06Yasuoor you may use vmware
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13:03.08steev64because I don't run windows
13:03.48Yasuowell then blame blizzard :P
13:03.48steev64at least, not on this machine (at work)
13:03.48Stephmwsteev64: mac or linux?
13:03.55steev64linux - trying the nt40 thing that used to work for me
13:04.10zamhey there, i need to get contact to the AG_UnitFrames Autor for an publication clearense in a print-magazin...
13:04.10CIA-2303rabbit * r36600 10/trunk/ (8 files in 2 dirs): TinyTip: Removed the guild option.
13:04.18Stephmwthat's always worked for me... hope they didn't break it this time
13:04.25DeathraPatch stuck at 98% for over 30 mins now /sigh
13:04.30Gnarfozvhaarr: what oO that was format-able
13:04.36Yasuoso you use nt40 for patching and winxp for playing?
13:04.39vhaarrGnarfoz: meh
13:04.40steev64I keep getting "There are no patch files to apply"
13:04.45steev64Yasuo: yes
13:04.51Yasuokk
13:05.01CIA-2303moonsorrow * r36601 10GotWood/ (GotWood.toc GotWood_Data.lua):
13:05.02CIA-23GotWood:
13:05.02CIA-23- adjusted mana spring and healing stream to 2 minutes
13:05.02CIA-23- updated toc
13:05.03Yasuoim using winex6 directly
13:05.05vhaarrGnarfoz: add it back then, just make sure I don't have two lines of guild info
13:05.17DeathraWhy does TinyTip never update on WAU?
13:05.28Gnarfozvhaarr: :) this evening ;)
13:06.51StephmwYasuo: latest wine here... but can't test the new patch yet (I'm at work)
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13:07.16a-stray-catwouldn't it be sweet if you could rig up the optimus maximus keyboard to the wow macro/keybinding system to show the spell icon of whatever that key was bound to on the board?
13:07.26a-stray-catif that thing every ships, at least
13:07.43Stephmwand somebody else pays for it
13:07.46a-stray-catthat too
13:08.03a-stray-catthat keyboard apparantly only has a 5 year life span too
13:08.10a-stray-catthats like $300 of keyboards a year!
13:08.14Yasuohm it seems to work for me with wine
13:08.16Stephmwalready longer than mine :)
13:08.49a-stray-catwell for $1500 i would hope that it'd last me forever :<
13:09.09evl_a-stray-cat: Yes, I frequently watch the keyboard when playing
13:09.19evl_"Let's see now, I've pressed stun here, let me find that backstab key"
13:09.27a-stray-catomg its just for the glitz factor
13:09.32a-stray-cati hardly look at the keyboard at all
13:09.38evl_or if you like playing Pictionary WoW :D
13:09.48a-stray-catthe whole concept seems sketchy at best
13:09.54evl_I don't see it's use
13:10.00a-stray-catbecause its glitzy!
13:10.06YasuoStephmw, well do you mean to apply the patch or download?
13:10.07a-stray-catit shiiiines :<
13:10.10evl_apps like Quicksilver seem better if you want lots of apps on buttons and stuff :P
13:10.18Yasuoofc you have to download it via a webbrowser
13:10.25StephmwYasuo: apply - can't really do it via a screen session
13:10.48Yasuodunno if wine is fine with screen
13:10.50StephmwYasuo: wine's always been fine for downloading
13:11.05CIA-2303mikk * r36602 10CraftList/CraftList.toc:
13:11.05CIA-23CraftList:
13:11.05CIA-23- 2.1 compatible.
13:11.15steev64it downloaded the files just fine, it just won't apply them here
13:11.17abbat_wcrap
13:11.24abbat_w2.1.0 have huge nerf ;)
13:11.25abbat_w---
13:11.26abbat_wUndead, Human, Draenei, and Night Elf models had their breasts made smaller for some reason
13:11.27abbat_w---
13:11.28a-stray-cathttp://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/optimus_maximus_01.jpg i mean look at that
13:11.30abbat_wthis one
13:11.40a-stray-catthe whole keyboard is "ooooooh....shiiiiiny"
13:11.43Matrix1101.500$
13:11.48Matrix110to expensive:-(
13:11.50a-stray-catindeed
13:12.03Matrix110for 400 i think alot more ppl wouldve though about it
13:12.08Chompersoleds will die over time
13:12.11steev64ahh, using win2k it worked
13:12.16Chompersso it'll be useless in a few years
13:12.30a-stray-cati'd have considered saving up at $400
13:12.58a-stray-catbut for 1500 i'd rather get a new video card+cpu+mobo+ram
13:13.14Bruners[Ammoo]: Quartz looks good
13:13.16Elkano_a-stray-cat: you didn't knew that keyboard?
13:13.24[Ammo]Bruners: thank nymbia not me
13:13.28a-stray-cati can barely buy lunch ;P
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13:13.38a-stray-catoh i misread
13:13.42YasuoStephmw, well i downlaoded the patch with firefox, applied it with wine and running with cedega now, worked fine for me
13:13.44a-stray-cati'd heard of it
13:13.51a-stray-catbut i've not seen such a shiny photo of it.
13:13.57a-stray-cat(before)
13:14.11Yasuobut all my addons are gone WTF
13:14.37Yasuowth happaned to the addons
13:14.45Elkano_a-stray-cat: it was announced years ago, than canceled in favour of a b/w version which was later canceled agian in favour of the original version... and the price... well...
13:14.57a-stray-cat:<
13:15.04StephmwYasuo: screen is text-only... so I could start the process but htf I'd be able to monitor it is beyond me :D
13:15.10a-stray-cati worry about that escape key placement though
13:15.15a-stray-catthats not an easy to reach place for such a useful key
13:15.20phyberabbat_w: is there a thread about that somewhere?
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13:15.52Elkano_ut the pic you linked is new, the old one had emule on it iirc
13:15.53abbat_wphyber, no. my friend post it for me. actually i don't test
13:16.01abbat_wBut i have undead male ;)
13:16.30a-stray-catclearly emule caters to pirates, and pirates dont have money
13:17.16Yasuoomg ALL addons are incompatible
13:17.25Yasuoblizzard what did you do
13:17.35Gagorian..
13:17.42a-stray-catit likely unchecked the box.
13:17.43Gnarfozcalm down, update, check the checkbox
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13:19.00Yasuook working, but still they are marked as too old
13:19.10sbuhm
13:19.16sbunetherwing quest is doable in ~30min?
13:19.17sbuhow?
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13:20.14Gnarfozsbu: bugged quest, you get transformed into an orc on a netherdrake, should disappear when you leave the place, but doesn't
13:20.19phyberabbat_w: I have a human female priest. she'll be disappointed if her boobies have got smaller.  I'll have to get the [Shirt of Stuffed Bra] for her.
13:20.31Brunersanyone having blank pitbullframes?
13:20.46sbuGnarfoz: mah...
13:20.52abbat_wAhah, phyber ;)
13:22.10kenlyrichmmm... any way to determine the speed of my RAM without opening the case?
13:22.58phyberCPU-Z should tell you
13:23.12phyberhttp://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
13:23.13abbat_wyep
13:23.54kenlyricthanks!
13:25.28kenlyricstrange, it says it's DDR2, but I'm pretty sure it's DDR and the clock speed is DDR speed.
13:25.57evl_Ghost in the SHell
13:26.00Elkano_\o/ WAU has beaten TitanPanel \o/ http://www.google.com/trends
13:26.01evl_employ shotgun
13:26.06Gnarfozilifin: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/irssi.png
13:26.07CIA-2303Octane666 * r36603 10SpamMeNot/ (Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc):
13:26.07CIA-23SpamMeNot:
13:26.07CIA-23- Bugfix for line 1368 error when reporting spammers. This wasn't enabled by Blizzard when the new patch was first released so wasn't tested until now.
13:28.23CIA-2303mikk * r36604 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (. FuBar_GarbageFu.toc): FuBar_GarbageFu: 2.1 compatible
13:28.35CIA-2303mikk * r36605 10FuBar_GarbageFu_Prices/FuBar_GarbageFu_Prices.toc: FuBar_GarbageFu_Prices: 2.1 compatible
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13:29.15Leialyncan someone please update Babble-Zone deDE with ["Serpentshrine Cavern"] = "H\195\182hle des Schlangenschreins",
13:29.18kenlyrichmm, this number must not be mhz
13:29.26LeialynI don't know why they keep changing the instance names in every patch
13:30.01Elkano_"improving" deDE locale ;)
13:30.02GnarfozLeialyn: ... because they can
13:30.05CIA-2303mikk * r36606 10Baggins_GarbageFu/ (. Baggins_GarbageFu.toc): Baggins_GarbageFu: 2.1 compatible
13:30.12Gnarfozand because they like to fuck with you poor deDE users :D
13:30.20Elkano_one of the reasons I switched to enGB
13:30.24Leialynguess so too
13:30.25Gnarfoz< same
13:30.31GnarfozSüderstade
13:30.35GnarfozSouthshore
13:30.35Gnarfozwtf?
13:31.08Leialynshould be Südküste xD
13:31.27evl_http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070523.jpg
13:31.29evl_HAHAHA
13:32.05Gnarfoznice
13:32.34evl_The bomb says no Gnarfoz.
13:32.36SarozWTB cartographer netherdust Pollen/Bush
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13:33.04CIA-2303zacwolf * r36607 10AEmotes/AEmotes.toc:
13:33.04CIA-23AEmotes:
13:33.04CIA-23- Update to interface 20100
13:33.38CIA-2303zacwolf * r36608 10AEmotes_DrWho/AEmotes_DrWho.toc:
13:33.38CIA-23AEmotes_DrWho:
13:33.38CIA-23- Update to interface 20100
13:34.18Gnarfozwere herbalism nodes moved, at all?
13:34.32kenlyricGnarfoz: not that I noticed last night.
13:34.43kenlyricjust have to reset the mining databasse.
13:34.45CIA-2303zacwolf * r36609 10AEmotes_FullMetalJ/AEmotes_FullMetalJ.toc:
13:34.45CIA-23AEmotes_FullMetalJ:
13:34.45CIA-23- Update to interface 20100
13:34.53Gnarfozk
13:35.11Gnarfozgonna purge that one, but I'm not playing my paladin now anyway
13:35.14kenlyricbased on location, it's now harder to mine than it is to herb.
13:35.17CIA-2303zacwolf * r36610 10AEmotes_JonyC/AEmotes_JonyC.toc:
13:35.17CIA-23AEmotes_JonyC:
13:35.17CIA-23- Update to interface 20100
13:35.36kenlyricherbs are still far enough from mobs in a lot of places, but they put the mines under the feet of mobs.
13:36.09Sarozjustice
13:36.16kenlyricI have fear :)
13:36.27GnarfozI want putty to load non-monospaced fonts :<
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13:36.28SarozRESIST
13:36.32a-stray-cati have a pet + fd
13:36.34kenlyricmobs don't resist fear
13:36.37a-stray-catthey made it so that if you fd
13:36.43kenlyricwell, rarely.
13:36.43a-stray-catwhile your pet is being beat on
13:36.48a-stray-catyou can still mount and fly away
13:36.49CIA-2303zacwolf * r36611 10AEmotes_Kelly/AEmotes_Kelly.toc:
13:36.49CIA-23AEmotes_Kelly:
13:36.49CIA-23- Update to interface 20100
13:36.55a-stray-catand your pet even auto despawns!
13:36.56kenlyricit doesn't put you back in combat?
13:36.57a-stray-catso spiffy.
13:36.59a-stray-catnope.
13:37.02kenlyricso sweet.
13:37.06Mikkthat's overpowered
13:37.10a-stray-catin the past i'd have to dismiss pet, then fd.
13:37.21Gnarfozwasn't that supposed to be fixed, specifically? ^^
13:37.28Mikkpets in combat shouldn't be autodismissed
13:37.42CIA-2303zacwolf * r36612 10AEmotes_Leeroy/AEmotes_Leeroy.toc:
13:37.42CIA-23AEmotes_Leeroy:
13:37.42CIA-23- Update to interface 20100
13:37.51KirkburnMikk! Hullo :)
13:37.54a-stray-catmeh :<
13:39.09kenlyricI seem to remember if I put my pet on passive and then FD it would go out of combat, but maybe that was only if my pet never engaged.
13:39.59Elkano_well, I'll be headding to my japanese lession... l8ers...
13:40.08evl_<Esmein> there is this new feature to rotate minimap, we were wondering what is it good for
13:40.09evl_<Esmein> until someone asked us if we have seen women finding her way on a map...
13:40.20a-stray-catjust tell your pet to follow
13:40.21a-stray-catthen fd
13:40.33a-stray-cator fd, tell your pet to follow, and wait 5 seconds while still fd'd
13:40.42a-stray-catyou'll pop out of combat with stuff beating on your pet
13:42.49MikkAny particular reason why Metrognome isn't updated or can I go fix it?
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13:43.58Yasuoanyone alse having problems with questfu after update?
13:44.53kenlyricnot me. My only problems were sanity (which we knew was broken) and cellular, which covorted with spamsentry to eat my whispers.
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13:45.21vhaarrMikk: The reason is probably that almost no addons use it any more.
13:45.45Brunershow do i change back to the old shaman colour?
13:46.04Mikkvhaarr: mkay.. i had one use it.. forget which one it is tho.. checking
13:46.05vhaarrBruners: You can't.
13:46.10Necrathexwhat was the quest that gives you a mount again?
13:46.11deltronI love the new shaman color
13:46.15Necrathex(netherwing)
13:47.12Yasuohm when i hover the questfu icon the quests do not pop up
13:47.13Brunersvhaarr: why not?
13:47.15CIA-2303ominous * r36613 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/Paladin.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: Removed debug print
13:47.21vhaarrBruners: Because it would taint.
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13:48.03Gnarfozhow does ClassColorswork, then oO
13:48.04CIA-2303ammo * r36614 10Violation/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Violation: add pet merge toggle based of work by Adirelle
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13:49.02[Ammo]you could probably change the global RAID_COLORS thing
13:49.05[Ammo]but not sure
13:49.08Mikktaint
13:49.11Mikkprolly
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13:49.17Tornhoofthe new shaman coor sux
13:49.21Tornhoof+l
13:49.43Berkzsomeone know how to set hotkey to Bartender3 ?
13:49.51abbat_wi know
13:49.57Berkzgief
13:50.01kenlyriccan prat change that color, fairly easily?
13:50.01abbat_wuse blizzard keybindings
13:50.02MikkYasuo: Weird. I'm getting quests on hover?
13:50.15Berkzah ok
13:50.32abbat_wand you found Bartender3Bar1...Bartender3BarXX
13:50.34kenlyricuh oh, hotfix.
13:50.42Mikkvhaarr: Ah, yeah, AllPlayed
13:50.42kenlyricI wonder what cool broken thing they fixed...
13:50.49MikkFixing both then
13:50.57vhaarrMikk: Just fix it.
13:51.03Mikkdoing
13:51.07vhaarrMikk: Where "fix" means make it use AceEvent.
13:51.12Mikksigh =P
13:51.14vhaarrThere's no reason to use Metrognome.
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13:51.20kenlyricmetrowaa?
13:51.26vhaarrGNOEM
13:51.28vhaarr<3
13:51.39Mikkthat would require me learning to use aceevent timers.. sigh.. ok, reading up =P
13:51.54vhaarrMikk: it's easy :P
13:52.04Mikkoh, i don't doubt that =)
13:52.28DeathraAnyone finding moving Bartender Bars impossible?
13:52.37DeathraI can move em but its like... clunky
13:53.28oboemaCannot move them at all
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13:53.56Snarrrrdo you have the sticky option on?
13:54.02a-stray-catso if you did RAID_CLASS_COLORS["SHAMAN"] = {oldcolors} it'd taint a lot of stuff?
13:54.08oboemano, ofcourse not ^^
13:54.16Snarrrrdeathra :p
13:54.20Snarrrrcause it was clunky
13:54.31Mikka-stray-cat: very good question. feel free to test =)
13:54.31oboemaah, soz ;)
13:54.39[Ammo]I don't think it will
13:54.44a-stray-cati would but im about to collapse!
13:54.48CIA-2303mikk * r36615 10ChatThrottleLib/ChatThrottleLib.toc: ChatThrottleLib: 20100
13:54.50kebinusanI cant stand the new shaman color
13:54.52a-stray-catso i'll move over to the bed in order to do so.
13:55.02a-stray-catciao all
13:55.10kebinusanits an eyesore
13:56.05Snarrrragree
13:56.23Snarrrrtoo dark
13:57.49nevcairielhow can i figure out which addon is blocking my /1 channel?
13:57.53nevcairielall my chans moved one up
13:57.58nevcairieland i cant use /1
13:58.05[Ammo]hmm type: /chatlist
13:58.07[Ammo]what is your 1 chan
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13:58.18nevcairielits not listed
13:58.23[Ammo]nice
13:58.24nevcairieltyping /1 in chat doesnt do anything either
13:58.36nevcairielthere is no channel in my chat-cache.txt
13:58.44a-stray-catso if you join another channel
13:58.47Gnarfozthe return of undead channels?
13:58.47a-stray-catdoes it end up as 1?
13:58.54nevcairielno a-stray-cat
13:58.57nevcairieltried that
13:59.09a-stray-catclearly your chatframes are possessed.
13:59.31a-stray-catim down to 2.5 hrs of sleep time now, should i even bother :<
13:59.51evl_No, end it
14:00.08AthouRep2 is not working for me anymore :(
14:01.29Silviu-./1 General works for me
14:01.53Silviu-But 4 was my channel now .. empty :P
14:04.52MikkWhat happens if I do AceEvent:ScheduleRepeatingEvent(myfunc, 5) and then do AceEvent:ScheduleRepeatingEvent(myfunc, 7)? Will I have changed the interval, or will I get two timers firing?
14:04.59CIA-2303bam * r36616 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
14:05.00CIA-23ItemPrice-1.0:
14:05.00CIA-23- TOC version updated.
14:05.00CIA-23- Price updates
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14:05.11vhaarrMikk: Provide a unique ID.
14:05.12Ominous2 timers i think
14:05.14vhaarrThen it will override.
14:05.24turnm0ilis there any ace based threat meter?
14:05.26vhaarrself:ScheduleRepeatingEvent("MyID", func, time)
14:05.31vhaarrturnm0il: no
14:05.33turnm0il:/
14:05.43Ominousgod why do people always ask that question
14:05.57CIA-2303bam * r36617 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.toc:
14:05.57CIA-23ItemPriceTooltip:
14:05.57CIA-23- TOC version updated.
14:05.57turnm0ilwas my first time :P
14:06.02vhaarrclearly because they're not happy with KLH
14:06.35deltronlol
14:06.45a-stray-catit could be prettier, imo.
14:07.01a-stray-catsomeone should make it so ;)
14:07.01vhaarrit could be a lot of tihngs
14:07.12Royalnevcairiel, my custom channel also moved up 1 spot ><
14:07.16DeathraWhat primary spell should I set to check for GCD(mage)?
14:07.20DeathraNot quite sure what it means
14:07.24DeathraOn quartz that is
14:07.25Mikkvhaarr: Documented on the wiki. Cheers.
14:07.27Royalseems theres some sort of hidden LookingForGroup chan that you cant leave or see
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14:07.37moonsorrowvhaarr writes a threat module for violation, I know it!
14:07.44vhaarrthat's what he does
14:07.58a-stray-catclearly then vhaarr's threat is now 0.
14:08.00[Ammo]dying is goood
14:08.05[Ammo]resets your threat
14:08.18deltroni like the changes to shaman windfury
14:08.31deltronthey didn't pull aggro all night
14:08.31turnm0ilhmm, could someone please upload the KLH for me? curse is down... :-(
14:08.31MikkRoyal: Read patchnotes. You can only use the LFG channel if you're LFGing via the tool
14:08.35deltronand we didn't have a pally
14:09.10kenlyricDeathra: if you have find herbs/find minerals, that's a good one.
14:09.22Egrestare the other realms down too?
14:09.37DeathraCheers kenlyric :)
14:09.47deltronseems so
14:09.51kenlyricrolling restarts.
14:09.54DeathraSo shall I write Find Herbs in the box?
14:09.56kenlyricUS side, at least.
14:09.59deltronbuggy patch!
14:10.01deltronyeeuh!
14:10.06kenlyricyes, and hit Enter after you type it.
14:10.07durcynvhaarr: any complaints if i check in this fix for ClosetGnome?  IsFeignDeath() changed to UnitIsFeignDeath("player") in 2.1
14:10.10kenlyricotherwise it won't accept it.
14:10.16vhaarrdurcyn: No, please do.
14:10.20deltronanyone here play last night and was using pitbull?
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14:10.48Egrestpitbull scares me, too much features lol
14:10.58deltroni <3 pitbull
14:10.59[Ammo]deltron: I played last night with pitbull
14:11.04[Ammo]but eu didn't have 2.1 then :p
14:11.09deltrondoh
14:11.11vodrinits modular, turn things you don't want off
14:11.12RoyalMikk: Yes, but I mean it takes up a channel spot even if youre not in the LFG
14:11.12durcyndeltron: yeah.  alpha wa a little horked on target/ToT for me in karazhan last night
14:11.15durcynwas*
14:11.22deltrondurcyn: yeah I had the same issue
14:11.24[Ammo]it worked fine for me today though
14:11.32[Ammo]but I don't use rangecheck/combatfade sillyness
14:11.44kenlyricthose new little bars are spiffy. I have to make them look actually readable, but I could probably get rid of my hot/dot timer entirely.
14:11.47Ominousyea sillyness that is :)
14:12.45sbuoh, quartz shows flight timers
14:13.05[Ammo]I'm waiting for quartz to bake my pie
14:13.16CIA-2303durcyn * r36618 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: quick fix for new UnitIsFeignDeath syntax.
14:13.20Yasuohm i cannot buff anymore in wow O_o i always buff myself
14:13.47sbui dont need inflight anymore, right?
14:13.59StephmwYasuo: the ultimate Solo mod :)
14:14.08deltronsbu: i'm guessing the times are all borked
14:14.09durcynsbu: afaik inflight still is needed if you want flight path map notes in carto
14:14.20Yasuoyeah but solo aint good for holy priest
14:14.34kenlyrictofu doesn't put cart notes in :/
14:15.13[Ammo]sbu: the flight module from quartz hooks inflight
14:15.19[Ammo]so you'd need infliight for it to work
14:15.25StephmwYasuo: new playstyle :D
14:15.26[Ammo]it's not a separate thing
14:15.52sbu[Ammo]: hmm ok, then i have to hide inflight bars
14:16.15sbugn, which is not possible %-)
14:16.29durcynman, i can't remember the last time i took a flight path
14:16.54[Ammo]i take them a lot
14:16.56[Ammo]but I'm poor as nails
14:16.59[Ammo]so no epix mount
14:17.20DeathraOkay, so I just started using Quartz
14:17.41DeathraWhenever I cast something there's another yellow bar in the middle of my screen
14:17.44DeathraDunno what it is
14:17.55vodrinare you casting a dot?
14:17.58vodrinor a debuff on the target
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14:18.15DeathraJust testing with hearthstone
14:18.44[Ammo]it's global cooldown
14:18.54deltronsome cooldown mod I'm guessing
14:19.04deltronlike antagonist or something
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14:19.25DeathraMkay, not using antagonist though
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14:19.35durcynif it's a small bar on the top right of the cast bar, it's debuffs
14:19.54DeathraMight be class timers, installed that today too
14:19.55durcynif it's a quick pulse going from left to right on either side, it's probably GCD
14:20.53deltronit's gotta be classtimer
14:21.35Ominouswhats classtimer?
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14:22.03deltronTimers for Buffs, DOTs, CC effects, etc.. (Ominous)
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14:22.14Ominousi know i made it, i meant what was it causing
14:22.17Ordoguhm is there already some partition to change back the shaman raid color ?
14:22.30Ordogi cant believe somebody DOESNT hate that blue -.-
14:22.39Kyrinpetition?
14:22.41KinkxI've changed it back :)
14:22.45KinkxUse ClassColors
14:22.49nevcairielyou guys seriously dont have anything more important to worry about then your stupid class color?
14:22.57nevcairielwhine more.
14:23.01KyrinI actually prefer it
14:23.02KinkxThen change the color to r = 0, g = 0.86, b = 0.73, thats the old Shaman color
14:23.04deltronI for one welcome my new blue overlords
14:23.05deltron:D
14:23.17deltronwell bluer
14:23.25Kyrinhell, I was gettin' annoyed confusing the shaman and mages
14:23.31deltronyeah
14:23.32Ordogit just doesnt fit in the color mix
14:23.40KyrinYou must play horde
14:23.42deltronthe other day I had a guy open trade with me
14:23.42KinkxI found it harder to read with Prat, not enough contrast or whatever
14:23.44Kyrinyou just miss your pink
14:23.45Kyrin:P
14:23.56Silviu-Mikk EavesDrop still use Metrognome :)
14:23.58deltronI did /question %t to him
14:24.15MikkSilviu-: Tough, I'm fixing AllPlayed to use AceEvent now and not touching Metrognome
14:24.18Mikk=P
14:24.24deltronhmm
14:24.35deltronwhat's the diff between EavesDrop and sct?
14:24.51DeathraEavesdrop is a combat log
14:24.51kenlyricare you the reason I have to suffer through metrognome in the SAL? ;)
14:24.51Matrix110eaves drop is a combat log
14:24.52KinkxEavesDrop is a combatlog addon
14:24.57DeathraHah! First!
14:25.09Kinkx:[
14:25.21Ordogcan somebody tell me where the ogri'la npcs got their home? cant really imagina a free spot on the map
14:25.21Mikkkenlyric: me? hell no, i'm just fixing allplayed cos i use it =)
14:25.40KinkxBtw, does anyone know if Potion masters can proc on Flaks? I've heard some say they can, but can't confirm it anywhere..
14:25.49deltronerr not SCT, I was thinking of SimpleCombatLog
14:25.52deltronlol
14:26.03kenlyricMikk: hmmm... maybe you'll fix whatever reason I had for switching from allplayed to restfu.
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14:26.12MikkKinkx: Elix mastery certainly procs from flasks. I'd imagine that means pot mastery doesn't.
14:26.18deltronEavesDrop is like SimpleCombatLog that doesn't replace your main combat log?
14:26.22Silviu-Mikk but what is broken in Metrognome ?
14:26.28KinkxSCL uses a regular ChatFrame, EavesDrop uses it's own frame and has icons and other features.. and it only logs your damage and damage taken
14:26.32Silviu-deltron yes, and it have icons
14:26.49MikkSilviu-: Only the toc number. But it's kinda obsolete seeing as how the functionality exists in AceEvent
14:27.30deltronI will check it out
14:27.33kenlyricflasks are tied to elixer mastery.
14:27.41deltronbecause I don't care for missing a lot of data in combat log
14:27.42kenlyricbecause they are just elixirs that last a long time.
14:28.05KinkxOkie, makes sense, thanks
14:28.47Ordoghm first netherdrakes already flying
14:28.52Radonbug
14:29.09Kemayokenlyric: ToFu should be adding cartographer notes.  Did it stop?
14:29.13Ordogsome easy to exploit like "can buy without reputation" ?
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14:29.27Gnarfozno
14:29.28Snarrrrjust the animation
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14:29.40Gnarfozquest disguise buff's range restriction is broken
14:29.48Ordogah ok
14:30.11kenlyricKemayo: dunno... maybe cart doesn't use a default profile and I can't see them on alts?
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14:31.28deltronI'm having a lot of strange issues lately
14:31.35Kemayokenlyric: ToFu is storing the cart notes db in itself, so it shouldn't even be that.
14:31.35deltronwell with mods heh
14:32.39kenlyricI can't even login to check.
14:33.02kenlyricI'm sure it does... I'm probably just wrong.
14:33.16deltroni never used ToFu
14:35.54Kemayodeltron: Then I don't love you.
14:35.59deltron:(
14:36.10deltronI've used a billion mods though it seems
14:36.15deltroni'm a mod junkie
14:36.41kenlyricmaybe I'm thinking it doesn't show the destinations those flight master go to?
14:36.47kenlyricbut why would I care?
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14:37.01vhaarrrofl
14:37.03kenlyricit has that little boot icon it puts over flight masters.
14:37.10vhaarrI've discovered Cauldrons for Frost and Nature already.
14:37.15kenlyricneat, wow is disconnecting on login.
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14:37.19deltroncauldron?
14:37.31CIA-2303nickenyfiken * r36619 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFu_FuBar.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Extra check to prevent "attempt to compare number with nil" error on login.
14:37.33deltronkenlyric: that was happening to me last night :(
14:37.35kenlyricdiscover the goddamn cauldron of super mana potions, pleasee.
14:37.37durcyndeltron: lets people pull resist pots out of 'em, like soulwells
14:37.42nevcairielvhaarr: you only discover cauldrons by actually making resi potions or?
14:37.47vhaarrnevcairiel: I think so
14:37.48deltrondurcyn: !!!!!!!!!
14:37.56vhaarrnevcairiel: I made like 3-4 of each only.
14:37.58durcynpatch notes, friend.
14:38.03haarmnev you have to make elemental absorbsion pots
14:38.04vhaarrnevcairiel: seems like the discovery chance it high on them.
14:38.07tsigonevcairiel: yep. we discovered cauldrons by making just a few of each time
14:38.08tsigotype*
14:38.15vhaarris*
14:38.38durcynin other words, "we lied.  more gimmicky resist fights incoming."
14:39.20Ordoguhm was that 1.8 WAU update just "now" put live ?
14:39.45nevcairieli should create soem just for fun
14:39.54Cheadsyou only discover cauldrons by making major protection pots
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14:41.46CIA-2303mikk * r36620 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed.lua libs/):
14:41.47CIA-23AllPlayed:
14:41.47CIA-23- 20100
14:41.47CIA-23- Replace metrognome with aceevent timers
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14:42.24MikkOrdog: It doesn't appear in your list until you refresh your addon index. Which happens when you try to update addons.
14:42.49deltronhmm should I drop mining and go herbing?
14:42.55deltrondoes herb still make money?
14:43.14Mikkask me again in 3 days
14:43.21Mikkwho the hell knows yet =P
14:43.28deltronoh yeah forgot about the changes heh
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14:44.42Josh_Borkemikk:  should i drop mining and go herbing?
14:44.47pb_ee1Heya ;)
14:44.58deltronhehe
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14:45.09deltroni guess i should just try and farm more herbs
14:45.10deltronerr ores
14:45.12Mikkauuuuuugh! i need op so I can abuse people properly!
14:45.21Josh_Borkepurl, pet Mikk
14:45.23purlACTION reaches over and pets Mikk on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!"
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14:45.24deltronnot sure how it is in 2.1 now though
14:45.29deltronsince they changed all the ore locations
14:45.52Mikki nearly always end up with op in channels i'm in for some reason... or officerhood in guilds....  and i like my kick button =P
14:45.59deltron:)
14:46.15MikkJust yesterday:
14:47.41deltronI'm still trying to get ops in #wow on efnet :P
14:47.41Mikk[Guildie] Jar-jar binks is the greatest character ever!
14:47.42MikkGuildie has been removed from the guild by Mikk.
14:47.42deltronlol that guy is my kinda troll
14:47.43Josh_Borkemikk:  it's people like you that i hate in my guild :-P
14:47.43MikkReinv 30 seconds later ofc but .... seriously, jar-jar love gotta have consequences =P
14:47.43kenlyricwow, i was just going to say "I love you, Mikk"
14:48.42Mikkofc, he said it in raidchat so half the guild was going "wtf?!?!" while the half in the raid was laughing their asses off =P
14:49.06kebinusanI hope someone figures out this wow application hang under Wine, its real annoying
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14:51.17CIA-2303athou * r36621 10ArenaMaster/ (. ArenaMaster.toc Core.lua):
14:51.17CIA-23ArenaMaster:
14:51.17CIA-23- fix for 2.1
14:51.17CIA-23- now using Babble-Zone
14:52.29XuerianDamnmit....
14:52.36Xuerian[SERVER] Shutdown in 15:00
14:52.38deltronlol
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14:53.36Xuerianvhaarr: Might you want to exclude myconfig from scm's svn folder, so that it doesn't overwrite your configuration each time when updating from WAU?
14:53.59vhaarrXuerian: do as you please
14:55.21vhaarrjust remember that some people use svn, and not any 3rd party updaters
14:55.29Xuerianwell, I actually remembered two things; that, and the fact that WAU's most common setting is to delete before extracting.
14:56.12vodrinwtb script to change shaman colour back :<
14:56.25Punkie`Just change it from myconfig.lua to myconfigDELETETHIS.lua on the svn ;)
14:57.02deltronvodrin: :P
14:58.08vodrinits awful contrast =p
14:58.31deltronI love it
15:00.04CIA-2303mikk * r36622 10FuBar_TinyTipFu/ (FuBar_TinyTipFu.toc icon.tga):
15:00.04CIA-23FuBar_TinyTipFu:
15:00.04CIA-23- 20100
15:00.04CIA-23- Ninjacommit of nicer icon. Revert if you detest it :-)
15:00.20Mikkhttp://mikk.cjb.net/gfx/tinytip/tticon.png btw
15:01.04vhaarrMikk: nooo :(
15:01.15vhaarrMikk: The pun was that the previous icon was actually the Audi TT logo.
15:01.17MikkShush, I already asked you if it was ok =P
15:01.21vhaarrrly?
15:01.22vhaarr:(
15:01.30MikkLike half a year ago =P
15:01.30deltronlol
15:01.30vhaarrhaha
15:01.30vhaarrokay fine
15:01.38zoktarbtw can u display estimated health of mobhealth or mobinfo2 or whatever for TT ?
15:01.49zoktargots the hp/mana bar just not showing the values
15:01.56Mikkand yeah i get the pun. i just think it looks poo in my fubar :<
15:02.11Punkie`Mikk: zomg ninjacommit this too http://mikk.cjb.net/gfx/bigwigs/wiggy.png :D
15:02.27vhaarrNO
15:02.29vhaarrlol
15:02.53Punkie`that is so awesome
15:03.26AwaaHm.. any reson for FuBar_NetStatsFu to need metrognome? :o
15:04.14omega_isn't metrognome the timing library?
15:04.50Sarozkindda
15:04.50MikkAwaa: Only that netstatsfu needs some aceevent conversion
15:05.05Josh_Borkefubar uses all my cpu :-(
15:05.25CIA-2303kemayo * r36623 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Trigger some events when appropriate.
15:05.37SarozBigbrother pwns my CPU
15:05.45sergioanyone else have issues with alt tabbing in fullscreen mode this patch (error 132 after a second of alt tabbing back)
15:05.47deltronwhat cpu do you have?
15:06.03Josh_Borkei have an Athlon MP 1900+!
15:06.06Josh_BorkeWOOT!
15:06.29MikkUpgrade already. But.. erm.. fubar using all your cpu? o.O
15:06.35MikkGotta be some addon misbehaving
15:06.46Josh_Borkewell, not all, but more than any other
15:06.48MikkBut fubar gets blamed because it's registering some fubar event
15:07.06MikkInteresting
15:07.11MikkHow are you statting it btw?
15:07.30Josh_Borkejust using performance fu
15:07.40CIA-2303durcyn * r36624 10SupplyAndDemand/Core.lua: SupplyAndDemand: allow hideWithoutStandby. fare thee well, FuBar clutter.
15:07.43Josh_Borkesolution:  just don't show fubar ;-)
15:07.43CIA-2303kemayo * r36625 10Quartz/Flight/Flight.lua:
15:07.43CIA-23Quartz:
15:07.43CIA-23- Get rid of the really excessive code-replication. (The entire module was if-elsed to have a very slightly different OnEnable and flight-starting method.
15:07.43CIA-23- Add ToFu support.
15:08.04KemayoOops, should have put "Flight" somewhere in the actual message tehre.
15:08.37vhaarryou mean besides "Quartz/Flight/Flight.lua:" ?
15:08.45evlIn 2.1 I get some wierd ass bars over my PitBull frames with my debuffs, how do I turn that off?
15:08.58Gnarfozyou turn off aura display?
15:09.12[Ammo]evl: probably quartz
15:09.16Xuerianevl: Quartz buffs
15:09.42deltronwhat's the aura display in pitbull anyways?
15:09.44Xueriannow all quartz needs is healthbars for me, and my target....
15:10.11evlaha
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15:10.25sergiomore rolling restarts eh
15:10.43Sarozwhere?
15:10.50sergioUS
15:10.55sergiomy server isn't even up
15:11.00SarozEU never gets those
15:11.03deltronyeah been doing that all morning it seems
15:11.24sergioprobably because the server team in europe aren't retards
15:11.25kenlyricsergio: you have a funny defnition of "restart" :)
15:11.39kenlyricwhen the server shuts down and is still down 90 minutes later, that's not even remotely a restart.
15:11.53sergioi don't blizzard does
15:12.18sergiolast night I went to sleep just before they came back up too :|
15:12.21kenlyricI think that when they "upgraded" the vindication BG hardware, they actuallly rolled us back on the pentium 2s so they could use our new servers for Battle.net.
15:12.37kenlyricsince our servers used to be old bnet servers.
15:12.42kenlyricit's the circle of life.
15:12.57deltronI really wonder what kinda hardware blizz uses
15:13.10snurrenot some cheap stuff ;)
15:13.12deltronIIRC they are athlon boxes
15:13.29deltronthe real hardware is their DB servers I'm sure
15:13.33kenlyrickargath (and I assume all of our battlegroup) were on old bnet servers.
15:13.45kenlyricwell, the server is the DB server.
15:13.49kenlyricwow is all DB.
15:13.55deltronyeah true
15:14.09SarozCooldownTimers2 is fucked up
15:14.18Gnarfozold bnet servers?
15:14.18deltronmy server is a launch server
15:14.25snurredeltron: most of them are amd opterons
15:14.27Gnarfozcan't really imagine that
15:14.41snurrenot even the very first wow server was used for bnet
15:14.42Gnarfozthey're sure using real server stuff (as reals as Opetrons get)
15:14.44kenlyricgnarfoz, you apparently never tried to play on this server :)
15:14.47pb_ee1Surely some NAS or SAN to save data ;)
15:14.54Gnarfozdidn't, I'm on EU ^^
15:15.23snurreall servers wow has ever used have been brand new at the time
15:15.27kenlyricthis server between 1.9 and 1.11, was an abomination before the lord of hosts.
15:15.49kenlyricsnurre: that's the lie they try to feed us :)
15:15.55kenlyricI'm telling you. Pentium 2s.
15:16.15snurrei havent been told shit, ive read (and seen) the stuff myself
15:16.32GnarfozI know whatever snurre's got to say on such questsions is probably gonna be quite accurate ^^
15:16.42snurre;)
15:16.56deltronsnurre: eh how
15:17.04kenlyricapfft, logic is no kind of answer to a rant.
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15:17.21kenlyricseriously though, if they had the servers ready to go, why weren't the up at launch?
15:17.21Gnarfozdeltron: the one and only way, of course ,)
15:17.22CIA-2303nickenyfiken * r36626 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (. FuBar_TrainerFu.toc TrainerFu.lua TrainerFuLocals-enUS.lua):
15:17.22CIA-23FuBar_TrainerFu:
15:17.22CIA-23- Removed PT3 from externals cus it's not used (oops)
15:17.22CIA-23- Added Babble-Tradeskill
15:17.22CIA-23- Localized more strings and will potentially break this crap (drycode)
15:17.32deltron!!!
15:17.33kenlyricI'm telling you, they were overwhelmed with demand and had to bring up a bunch more the next day :)
15:17.50pb_ee1snurre: And you didn't manage to steal one of them? Too bad :P
15:17.59deltronmy friend works for ubuntu, he says their servers are insane
15:18.11Gnarfozgotta be
15:18.11Mikksteal servers for personal use? are you nuts?
15:18.18vhaarr'for ubuntu', you mean canonical?
15:18.20snurrekenlyric: one reason is that the load was way greater than first expected.. another was that vivendi wouldnt want to risk too much money on hardware in the beginning.. once it turned out to be such a success, they gave more money
15:18.21MikkI'd never want a real server box standing around at home
15:18.24Gnarfozand if theirs are insane, you bet BlizzardÄs are insane :P
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15:18.28MikkSound like bloody 1970 vacuum cleaners. and worse.
15:18.31kenlyricsnurre: the next day?
15:18.46snurrepb_ee1: one tower of server blades weighs about 850kg, so no i couldnt steal them :p
15:18.59Mikk"blades"? ;)
15:19.03pb_ee1snurre: lol, so they are using file servers hehe ;)
15:19.08Mikkforklift to slot blades in and out? =P
15:19.18snurrei didnt have a forklift handy :(
15:19.27Mikkmaybe you meant rack =P
15:19.39pb_ee1snurre: I've worked on some servers of this kind, it's quite impressive (not only the size, but also the sound it produces :p)
15:19.53kenlyricespeciially when they boot.
15:19.59sergiolol
15:20.19Mikkpower a room full of racks up at the same time for justice and great overloadage!
15:20.27Gnarfozblades are even worse
15:20.30sergioi enjoy datacenters.  they're a nice 60F and i don't mind the sound
15:20.49Gnarfozmore machines on the same space, more noise :D
15:20.49durcynthey're also a great place to not be bothered
15:21.05pb_ee1true :p
15:21.08durcynit's just those damn pesky security cameras that interrupt "alone time"
15:21.38pb_ee1When I first entered the room, I thought someone was using a mower :P
15:21.41grzesieqanyone got an idea how long would it take to learn ncurses enough to wirte a simple app?
15:21.43NimbleRabitI love to hang out in the server room
15:22.49renchapgrzesieq: ncurse isn't too difficult to learn
15:23.10renchapbut try to find some examples using google, thats the best way to start
15:23.17kebinusansergio: a nice pair of noise canceling headphones does wonders for the white noise in datacenters
15:23.21Josh_Borkeanyone know about SSL authentication?
15:23.55kenlyricauchidoun,coilfang, or shattered halls?
15:24.12kebinusanJB, not much but ask anyway
15:24.17Sarozuhm
15:24.29SarozCooldownTimer2 thinks most of my shit is 1.5 cooldown, because I got interupted..
15:24.32Josh_Borkekebinusan: have you ever set it up?
15:24.33Sarozkindda.. crap
15:25.04kebinusannot in a long while, there are some great setup guilds on the big interconnected series of tubes tho
15:25.22Josh_Borkebut those are scary
15:25.29Mikkkebinusan: interconnected modems you mean
15:25.33KirkburnMikk, check http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn down the bottom :P
15:26.05Josh_BorkeKirkburn: seriously, 10k changes?
15:26.06Mikkheh
15:26.10Mikkfinally someone used it
15:26.16Mikkand not the dweeb that asked me for it
15:26.27deltronKirkburn: lol jeez :P
15:26.34Kirkburnheh
15:26.43deltronoh I'm not sure if ClearFont was the issue, but fonts were wonky last night
15:26.51KirkburnI couldn't let it go to waste!
15:26.52deltronI just remembered
15:26.58KirkburnWonky?
15:27.02Mikkcan't believe i spent a full day on that picture only to have him replace it by a screenshot
15:27.06deltronyeah spacing was wrong
15:27.07Mikka sucky screenshot at that
15:27.08Kirkburn>_<
15:27.13deltronin both prat and cellular
15:27.22Kirkburndeltron, weird. Can't imagine why 2.1 would affect that
15:27.32deltronyeah I have no clue why
15:27.35deltronit just happened with patch
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15:28.05durcynJosh_Borke: what about SSL?
15:28.13kebinusanwhy does running a guild remind me what my 5th grade teacher probably went through
15:28.15Josh_BorkeSSL authentication in apache
15:28.16deltronI took a screenshot but of course forgot to save it :P
15:28.39Mikkkebinusan: cause you're being too nice.
15:28.57Mikkthere is no requirement on GMs to be nice to assholes and idiots =P
15:29.00durcynJosh_Borke: feed it a cert and a key, load ssl_module
15:29.06Kirkburndeltron, how is that possible?
15:29.15KirkburnWow auto-saves screenies?
15:29.20durcynsetting Listen 443 helps too :o
15:29.21kebinusanMikk, you're probably right there
15:29.30deltrons/save/upload/
15:29.35Kirkburnah
15:29.36Ordoghm do one need to port back shattrath to keep the fel orc illusion ?
15:29.43Josh_Borkedurcyn: yea, tried that:   AuthError: could not verify client: None
15:29.45Mikkand if someone's continually stirring up messes in the guild, you're probably better off without them
15:29.49Ordogfrom netherwing that is
15:30.13pb_ee1Did you notice that the quality of the new JPG format for screenshots is a bit low, or am I the only one to think that?
15:30.46Mikkshould be possible to tweak it back to tga, no?
15:30.48vhaarrpb_ee1: I agree.
15:30.55vhaarrMikk: I don't think it is.
15:31.01durcynJB: that the only output?  it's... ambiguous.
15:31.01Mikker
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15:31.06Mikkbut it used to be possible on macs?
15:31.07pb_ee1Don't think it is either
15:31.07kebinusanprobably png if they did it similar to the mac
15:31.09vhaarrMikk: Except for Mac users.
15:31.22Kirkburndeltron, please do :)
15:31.25Mikkwtb png dumps then
15:31.44Josh_Borkedurcyn: i'm not sure if it's coming from a python module or from apache
15:31.56StephmwIt's possible to revert to TGA, blue post on cardsplace
15:31.59Snarrrrcan tinytip scale the tooltip? or lithetooltipdr?
15:32.03pb_ee1It was not very hard for developpers to put a high quality for screenshots, but hey, they did not set the value to "high", too bad ;p
15:32.12deltronwhy did blizz choose .jpg instead of .png? :(
15:32.14CIA-2303mikk * r36627 10IgnoreMore/IgnoreMore.toc: IgnoreMore: 2.1 compat
15:32.14kebinusanMy realm is down, you should be able to do:  set screenshotFormat
15:32.17KirkburnStephmw, there's a lot of blue posts on cardplace ;)
15:32.20kebinusanand do png, jpeg, or tga
15:32.31Mikkisn't it numbers?
15:32.33StephmwKirkburn: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/286833887.htm
15:33.04KirkburnAha
15:33.08KirkburnSo the answer is: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=276788003&sid=1
15:33.22deltronwow Fisker- actually did something decent ;)
15:33.23Stephmwthat stuff is just gagging for a GUI :D
15:33.25Mikk<PROTECTED>
15:33.26Mikk<PROTECTED>
15:33.49Stephmwdeltron: omg. I hadn't even noticed the name
15:33.54GagorianWhy does DrDamage:HookScript( BT3Bar1, "OnAttributeChanged" ) work but not DrDamage:SecureHook( BT3Bar1, "OnAttributeChanged" )? SecureHook -> Attempt to hook method "OnAttributeChanged" failed, it does not exist in the given object "table: 0E184360".
15:34.00deltronStephmw: that's Fisker-'s toon :P
15:34.24pb_ee1Stephmw: Thanks for the link ;)
15:34.24Stephmwdeltron: a BElf pally. It explains so much.
15:34.30Stephmwpb_ee1: np
15:34.32deltronlol
15:34.38deltronman .jpg looks terrible
15:34.57deltronor it's his graphics settings :P
15:35.09StephmwFisker-: man, I didn't realise. I'm so sorry.
15:35.16StephmwFisker-: all is forgiven.
15:35.18pb_ee1deltron: I think it is his graphics settings hehe :P
15:35.32deltronyeah it's bad :P
15:35.39deltronI'm spoiled with my new system hehe
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15:35.45sbuuhm
15:36.29deltronah I did register already on wowwiki
15:36.50renchapi have tuned configuration of svn.wowace.com.
15:37.01renchappm me if you see errors
15:37.21deltronok logged in to wowwiki
15:37.25vhaarrrenchap: dev.wowace.com is dead slow for me at the moment.
15:37.47renchapvhaarr: thats not my server, sorry :/
15:37.52vhaarrKaelten: ^
15:39.06Cryecthaha
15:39.35abyssichateAnyone else getting #132 after you've been alt+tabbed for a while?
15:39.48Cryectblizzard blames it on your video card not being supported
15:39.48Silviu-abyssichate me
15:39.49Silviu-:/
15:39.53Silviu-A lot of them
15:40.17abyssichate1900XTX with latest catalyst, not supported, I see :|
15:40.20Gnarfozabyssichate: yes
15:40.20NimbleRabitwhat mod is creating the channel xtenstionxtooltip2
15:40.32Gnarfozgetting that immediately when I alt-tab out and back in
15:40.36Cryecthehe yeah I know abyssichate :-p
15:40.43Silviu-abyssichate well i have nVidia Fx 5700
15:40.54Silviu-So it`s not Ati or nvidia
15:41.01CryectWell the thing I saw blamed it on video cards like S3 :-p
15:41.02Silviu-abyssichate u use Pitbull ?
15:41.07deltroni've not had the issues and I have a nvida 8600gts
15:41.07abyssichateyeah
15:41.17Silviu-Gnarfoz u too ?
15:41.17deltrondidn't try on my laptop with the ati x600 yet
15:41.19abyssichatebut I never had issues with pitbull before
15:41.23sergioabyssichate: yes
15:41.28deltronpitbull was wonky last night
15:41.31Silviu-I had before issues with it
15:41.39sergioabyssichate: re: 132 alt tabbed
15:41.39GnarfozSilviu-: x1600pro here at work
15:41.42Silviu-132 errors then ckk fixed it
15:41.48Gnarfozusing maximized windowed mode helps
15:41.57evlI can't see any fontstrings
15:41.59Gnarfozit just happens in fullscreen
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15:42.04Silviu-Gnarfoz hmm
15:42.12sergioit feels so sluggish if I use maximized windowed
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15:42.19Silviu-Yeah me too
15:42.28sergioespecially on my desktop
15:43.02GnarfozI just noticed hard disk access to be reaaally slow since going max-windowed
15:43.14Gnarfozbecause wow is high on cpu usage in the background
15:43.32StephmwGnarfoz: dual proc?
15:43.41deltronwhat the heck my technet emails just started being set for UK :P
15:43.44Cryectthe love of directx programs!
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15:44.18StephmwCryect: meh, I get high CPU usage under linux running wow in opengl ;-)
15:44.29GnarfozStephmw: nope, single
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15:44.55aibohello can anyone help me getting started with warcraft api ?
15:45.12CryectStephmw: If you alt tab it in opengl mode so its minimized it should go close to 0 though
15:45.25Xuerianhttp://wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API http://wowwiki.com/Widget_API
15:45.26StephmwCryect: oh, yeah, fair enough
15:45.38Wixiis there new "of the"'s in?
15:45.44CryectStephmw: Some directx issue results in 100% full cpu/core use even while minimized
15:45.45StephmwCryect: tabbing under linux is much nicer than windows too
15:46.00aiboxuerian i checked the links you provided
15:46.07deltronI used to get better framerate in linux than in windows
15:46.08Wixijust killed a mob in skettis for a quest and got Slatesteel Bracers of the Knight, dunno if any use to people
15:46.14aibobut i don't want to customize the game
15:46.18Xuerian0_o
15:46.27XuerianThat's what a api is for.....
15:46.29aibowhat i want is to connect with some auctions houses
15:46.42aiboto connect and get the items info
15:46.44XuerianYou can't communicated at all ingame<-->out of game
15:46.47sbuhm pitbull config mode broken?
15:46.57Xuerians/communicated/communicate/
15:47.09aibowhat?
15:47.11Kyrinat least not live
15:47.14Cryectsure you can if you don't mind a reloadui :-p
15:47.20aiboi am sorry can you expain it
15:47.21Xuerianmergh
15:47.22XuerianFine
15:47.35CIA-2303rabbit * r36628 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: Always use two decimals for CPU percentage, so the values don't jump around as much.
15:47.39XuerianThere is no way to access in game data out of game, or out of game data in game, without either zoning, or a ui reload
15:47.43Kyrinand I apparently don't know how to make Tattle work, or at least how to get all the data for it
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15:48.03Xuerianaibo: To put it simply, blizzard has gone to great lengths to insure you can't
15:48.08GagorianSomeone update AceHook! It's an emergency! HEP HEP! Call the police!
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15:48.26Cryectdamn they are insuring against us
15:48.27GagorianWith: * NEW - Frame:HookScript("name", function) - Exactly equivalent to hooksecurefunc(), but usable with frame script handlers. (Note that like hooksecurefunc(), this is not intended as a general hooking replacement, but to allow hooking of secure frame handlers.)
15:48.32aiboxuerian: is there a way ?
15:48.51Cryectaibo: if there was a way they would fix it fast
15:49.13aiboohh it means i can't get the information about the items out of Game ?
15:49.32Cryectwell you can if you write it to a saved variable
15:49.32[Ammo]aibo: the only way is the way Census etc do it. By saving it into saved vars and reading those from disk
15:49.34Xuerianaibo: Use one of the sites that allow you to grab tooltips for items and such if that's what you want
15:49.35Cryectthen read it later
15:49.39[Ammo]saving can only be done on reloadui / game exit
15:49.45XuerianBut otherwise listen to Cryect and [Ammo]
15:50.00durcynaibo: what kind of information are you looking for?  chances are someone else is already capturing it and putting it up on a website for you.
15:50.40aiboI want to look for items on all the servers available
15:51.16sbuhm
15:51.19CryectI'm looking for short stores on real in game cybering of night elves with humans in inns across Azeroth!
15:51.24sbupitbull party + blizz party are shown now
15:51.26sbuwtf
15:51.34Cryects/store/stories
15:51.38phybersbu: l2config ;)
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15:51.49phybersbu: in the Party config, "show party in 5 man raid" or something
15:51.56sbuphyber: uhm - thats some config option? :o
15:51.57sbuhm
15:52.03phyberwait, wait.  or... not.
15:52.05sbubut its not raid stuff
15:52.08sbuits blizz frames + pitbull frames
15:52.09aibodurcyn: I want to get the information about perticular item on all the available servers
15:52.10phyberbut PitBull has a "hide blizz frames" thingy too.
15:52.11sbushould not happen i guess? :o
15:52.14sbuah
15:52.30phyberit's a module, so just makesure the "Hide Blizz" module is loaded and find the option :)
15:52.43sbugnnl ok
15:52.51sbuwell it isnt actually me but my MT :/
15:52.52CryectAllakhazam and there is another auction site track auction stuff like that
15:53.04sbuand i have no idea what he's doing there...
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15:53.11sbuneed to tank karazhan in ~1h :o
15:53.15sbu+s
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15:53.48aibocryect: what auction site?
15:54.07CIA-2303gagorian * r36629 10DrDamage/ (Data/Mage.lua DrDamage.lua):
15:54.07CIA-23DrDamage:
15:54.07CIA-23-Bongos2 compatibility
15:54.20GagorianAnyone well versed with AceHook-2.1?
15:54.25Gnarfozkebinusan: noticed a commit with a "weekly scripted US data update" yesterday
15:54.26CryectI can't remember the name else than it was like a small fee or something for their info hence I don't remember the name since I didn't really care that much
15:54.45Gnarfozkebinusan: mind sharing that script? I'd like to do that for EU data :)
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15:55.09kebinusanits pretty basic just a crontab thing, sec I'll dig it up
15:55.10aibocryect: it means if there are getting some info, possibility is that i can also get such an information ?
15:55.24Cryectsure you just can't get it in realtime
15:55.45aibothen how can i get that information?
15:56.10Fisker-so what's bongos 2?
15:56.10CryectLook at addons that record auction data?
15:56.11aiboI mean i just want to track the items selling history
15:56.12NimbleRabitare addons like bigwigs and ora2 supposed to use memory even when disabled?
15:56.21CryectWriting Auction addons is like the biggest pain of an addon you can do in wow
15:56.22aibopardon me should i have to install the game ?
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15:56.43[Ammo]NimbleRabit: running disembedded?
15:56.49NimbleRabityes
15:56.58Gnarfozdisemboweled is way cooler
15:56.59Gnarfoz:<
15:57.01CryectYou have an idea on how to get auction data without installing the game?
15:57.23[Ammo]NimbleRabit: BigWigs should not, but... it might, it still has to check every now and again if you're in a zone and group it need sto enable in
15:57.27[Ammo]same with oRA2
15:57.27Stephmwthe only way would be to spider allakhazam and co.
15:57.37[Ammo]the LoD component can eat memory
15:57.39aibocan you believe i never know before today this very moment what is that world of warcraft :)
15:57.48[Ammo]though very very very little
15:57.54NimbleRabit[Ammo]: hmm ok, just seemed odd that they were top 10 in my memory when I thought they wouldn't be using any lol
15:58.00aiboi am basically developer and i am to get that info
15:58.12[Ammo]NimbleRabit: top 10 increasing?
15:58.18[Ammo]or top 10 total usage
15:58.21NimbleRabittop 20*
15:58.22NimbleRabitin usage
15:58.25[Ammo]ah ok
15:58.33NimbleRabitnot a big deal
15:58.34[Ammo]running em LoD?
15:58.38NimbleRabitI...think so
15:58.46[Ammo]do you have a shitload of BigWigs_blah folders?
15:58.54aibocryect: so I want your help in this regard
15:59.05vhaarrNimbleRabit: Static memory usage is of no concern.
15:59.09[Ammo]that too
15:59.11NimbleRabitvhaarr: I was just wondering
15:59.19vhaarrNimbleRabit: You worded your query badly.
15:59.23abyssichateIs any SSC transcript needed for BigWigs at the moment?
15:59.32vhaarrabyssichate: Yes, Lurker and Leo.
15:59.36abyssichateOkei
15:59.43vhaarrApparently they have been changed.
16:00.07NimbleRabit[Ammo]: nope.  Didn't know I had to set it up
16:00.08phyberaibo: what are you developing for?  some gold farming company?
16:00.27[Ammo]NimbleRabit: well, that explains, you have all modules for all bosses loaded
16:00.36[Ammo]it tends to be quite big when you do :)
16:00.48Kyrin<PROTECTED>
16:00.48pb_ee1Cryect: Wowhead also gathers AH prices
16:00.49NimbleRabitI'll set it up to be LoD
16:00.52Kyrinerr
16:01.06KyrinI'm not in wow atm >.<
16:01.10pb_ee1(only buyout info moreover)
16:01.37[Ammo]anyway, time to go to the wife and check if she made me dinner or not :)
16:01.48pb_ee1Bon appetit [Ammo] ;)
16:01.49kebinusananyone know if the treasure finding that dwarves have as a racial lets them see netherwing eggs on the map?
16:01.57NimbleRabitcan I just take the folders out and rename BigWigs_X
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16:02.40vhaarrNimbleRabit: Run the bigwigslod.bat file.
16:02.44ulicNimbleRabit: you should just be able to run the LOD .bat or .sh files and it will do it
16:02.49ulicyea what vhaarr said :)
16:02.51Punkie`aibo is from pakistan :o
16:02.58NimbleRabitDOn't have one of those
16:03.02Seerah_yep, just double-click
16:03.04vhaarrNimbleRabit: Just keep in mind that this memory usage is static, and does in no way impact your gaming.
16:03.06Seerah_no?
16:03.22vhaarrSo it's really not necessary.
16:03.22Pneuzomg fubar @4mb!
16:03.26NimbleRabitit wouldn't matter anyways, but it never hurts to optimize
16:03.29vhaarrAll this LoD crap is just nonsense most of the time.
16:03.32NimbleRabitor to learn how to do it
16:03.52Mikkvhaarr: idd
16:04.06MikkWith the notable exceptions of like... auctioneer ...
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16:04.29Gagorianvhaarr: Are you familiar with AceHook-2.1 code wise?
16:04.33KyrinI dunno how many goldfarmers they have in pakistan, but it's possible aibo is just one of those coding monkeys that some companies hire to do a job without them actually knowing anything about it going into it
16:04.34vhaarrGagorian: yes
16:04.57Seerah_NimbleRabit: in your BigWigs folder, it's called bigwigslod
16:05.07GagorianIt could use the new "Frame:HookScript("name", function) - Exactly equivalent to hooksecurefunc(), but usable with frame script handlers." hooking method
16:05.26GagorianCause as far as I can tell it hasn't been added, and I'm not too comfortable about adding it
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16:05.53GagorianI'd need to it to hook frame objects OnAttributeChanged
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16:06.19NimbleRabitSeerah_: dunno why but those .bat files are never there for me, perhaps they don't get unzipped correctly or something.  Just gonna dl a new one and put that file in manually
16:06.39Seerah_yeah, I even just downloaded from the files page to make sure it was in there
16:07.01TimR_Hi there, i am sure, there are not many questions as dumb as mine, but where is the exe in 1.8.23?^^
16:07.17shieldbheh
16:07.30vhaarrGagorian: I can't help with that now, maybe tomorrow.
16:07.35NimbleRabitsee I learned something good from this
16:07.49NimbleRabitnow I know I can go get the .bat for tattle instead of dragging each one of those darned folders out
16:07.50shieldbis it another instance of "the new revision of WAU only has the license and readme file in it" ?
16:08.01pb_ee1TimR_: You should download the "bin" file, and not the "src"
16:08.07TimR_omg, thx :)
16:08.17pb_ee1np ;)
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16:08.42pb_ee1For your information, src means "source", equals the code that lets anybody "make" the program
16:08.51pb_ee1"bin" = binary, an executable program
16:09.33TimR_ok, i feel embarrassed now ;)
16:09.47MikkDon't, that's shitty naming
16:09.47Seerah_no biggie :)
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16:10.07MikkAssuming that joe user knows the difference between "bin" and "src" is ... erm... lol?
16:10.12hugo546hi
16:10.21CIA-2303nickenyfiken * r36630 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFuLocals-enUS.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: God forbid localized clients :-/
16:10.24trhbinary isn't necessarely a executable program, could also be anything that isn't source or text-based :)
16:10.34Mikkthat too
16:10.54NimbleRabitI wonder why none of the lod.bat files are in my addon folders..
16:10.57pb_ee1TimR_: No worries :p
16:11.15Seerah_like vhaar said, it's not much to worry about, nimblerabit
16:11.29TimR_ok, thank you then, it all works fine :) cu @baelgun :)
16:11.32Seerah_only if your scrabing by performance wise
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16:11.38Seerah_*scraping
16:11.53NimbleRabitwell I'm using 70mb of memory just standing around, and while it's not a big deal I wouldn't mind getting some back
16:12.30GagorianYou must be using a lot of addons then..
16:12.32NimbleRabityep
16:12.35Seerah_running big database addons like auctioneer or something?
16:12.36GagorianOr something with huge databases
16:12.46NimbleRabithmm
16:12.50NimbleRabitkc_items
16:13.02Seerah_lootlink/itemsync?
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16:13.12NimbleRabitjust the KC versions
16:13.19Seerah_I meant in addition ;)
16:13.24NimbleRabitnope
16:13.32NimbleRabitI just have quite a few addons, they add up
16:13.58Seerah_is 70 where you sit after a garbage collection?
16:14.05NimbleRabitleme force one
16:14.12NimbleRabit60
16:14.26shieldbman I'm not going to get any work done now - http://ece4co.vis.ne.jp/sw/2007/05/post_16.html is too neat
16:14.31ulicwow, that is alot of addons :)
16:14.38NimbleRabitit just adds up.  500kb bigwigs, 500kb ora2, 600kb whodrop
16:14.39NimbleRabitetc.
16:15.28Seerah_before I switched to mostly Ace, I had around 80-90 going up to my limit of 130 before a GC
16:15.28NimbleRabitheh
16:15.36Seerah_but that was with Auctioneer, Enchantrix, LootLink, etc, etc, etc
16:15.42kebinusanHeh, doing the tattle update during maintenance took a bit longer than I expected, 749m 19s
16:15.42Seerah_Titan... /embarrassed
16:15.44Antiarc|Wor1Morning, folks.
16:15.48NimbleRabitYeah I used to use titan
16:15.55Seerah_morning antiarc
16:15.56NimbleRabitso, what is ColaLight
16:16.01NimbleRabitnvm I'll look it up lol
16:16.24Antiarc|Wor1ColaLight stores itemvendor  prices
16:16.27Seerah_stores item prices in a database, but I believe it's abandoned - the author suggested SellFish
16:16.31Antiarc|Wor1It also sucks up ungodly amounts of memory.
16:16.47NimbleRabityep that's why I asked
16:16.51Seerah_that's what we were discussing :)
16:17.01NimbleRabitit's using quite a bit 0.o
16:17.04NimbleRabitI'll just trash it
16:17.44kebinusanI think fubar_garbagefu tracks em too
16:17.54Antiarc|WorkMy hungriest addons at this point are "Ace2" (so I guess all the libraries?), DamageMeters, and KTM.
16:17.56Seerah_it doesn't store them itself
16:18.03Antiarc|WorkKTM sucks up 5% of my overall CPU. o.0
16:18.14NickenyfikenKTM is crap :-(
16:18.22NickenyfikenToo bad i need it as a enhance shaman
16:18.34Tulleryour options for item price mods are sellfish and itempricetooltip
16:18.50Antiarc|WorkKTM's really necessary right now for us, sadly, since we tend to have a high tank turnover rate, and every tank has different threat generation rates.
16:19.10Kyrinktm only helps if everyone is using it though
16:19.28Antiarc|WorkWhich we do :)
16:19.46Stephmwit's mandated for our Kara runs
16:19.47Seerah_ItemSync stores prices too, but you're not running that, NimbleRabit
16:19.54NimbleRabitI'll get sellfish
16:19.54hugo546i tell you , dw shamans dont need KTM now :>>
16:19.58Kaelten_wow europe has put there 5 cents in
16:20.01Seerah_good choice ;)
16:20.29Chompersis there any way to turn off the spam Gladiator spews out?
16:21.02hugo546mongoose glow is crazy can't see the weapon just the glow :D
16:21.17Kaelten_lol there is a 14 load atm
16:21.18Seerah_it's purdy
16:21.49NimbleRabitI hate when addons I can't replace use lots of memory and/or cpu
16:22.11Seerah_you mean ktm/damage meters?
16:22.19NimbleRabityep
16:22.21NimbleRabitand theorycraft2
16:22.30Seerah_well, you technically don't *need* them....
16:22.36NimbleRabitshh, yes I do
16:22.36deltronmongoose is too much
16:22.39Seerah_and if you're a caster, you could try DrDamage
16:22.39hugo546yeah
16:22.44NimbleRabitI don't get the new glow on mongoose
16:22.49NimbleRabitSeerah_: I use it on my caster toons =D
16:22.56NimbleRabitit's SO much better
16:23.00hugo546NimbleRabit just play dw shamans, dont need ktm cause low dps, dont need theorycraft either, you just click one icon :P
16:23.12Seerah_if your weapon already has a glow then I think I heard you don't see it still :(
16:23.16NimbleRabitYeah
16:23.20NimbleRabitdoesn't do anything on my glad weapon
16:23.28hugo546yeah
16:23.43hugo546and peoples cry, my glad imba axe don't know with mongoose
16:23.46hugo546:D
16:23.46renchapi have problems with WoW+Wine :/
16:23.52renchapfreezes, i must kill WoW.exe
16:24.02NimbleRabitso excuse me for asking a dumb question
16:24.06NimbleRabitbut what does localization mean
16:24.18NimbleRabithugo546: hey I want that glow!
16:24.39Antiarc|WorkLocalization is generally making an app suppport multiple languages
16:24.47Antiarc|WorkSo that depending on your locale, you get the proper language.
16:24.55NimbleRabitohhh
16:24.58NimbleRabitthat makes sense
16:25.01TecnoBratAnyone know if lifebloom / PoM is fixed so that the person who did the lifebloom actually gets credit for the heal now?
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16:25.18TecnoBratEG: it shows up in the combat log as being from the one who casted it
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16:25.52vhaarrprobably not
16:27.05CIA-2303saroz * r36631 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Remove Feign Death hacks, add Feign Death as a status
16:27.09Gagorianvhaarr: Alright, thanks. Have to settle with hooking SecureStateheader still for a day then
16:27.11TecnoBratI'll have to test it when I get home then :)
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16:30.29Cheadshmm when I try to destroy an item.. drag and drop.. nothing happens.. anyone experienced that?
16:30.51Antiarc|WorkCheads: That can happen if you end up clicking on "scene geometry" rather than "world geometry"
16:30.59Antiarc|WorkTry moving your camera and try again
16:31.43Tornhoofhmm anyone good with dogtag?
16:31.53XuerianTornhoof: What are you trying to do?
16:32.07Tornhoof[InCombat?MissingHP:Red!SmartHP]
16:32.08Tornhoofthis
16:32.18Tornhoofjust without SmartHP but custom HP display
16:32.23Tornhoofworks fine with SmartHP
16:32.24NimbleRabitSeerah_: down to 50 =D
16:32.41Tornhoofbut i can't get proper chaining done after the ! (false) case
16:33.11Seerah_NimbleRabit: heh :)  What did you ditch?  Just ColaLight?
16:33.26NimbleRabitditched colalight and made a bunch of things LoD.  Mostly libraries like babble
16:33.28Tornhoof[InCombat?MissingHP:Red![[CurHP]/[MaxHP]]] <-- something like this, with a delimiter inbetween
16:34.13NimbleRabitbabble isn't even showing any memory usage now when before it was at like 800kb
16:34.25NimbleRabitoh and I ditched FlagRSP
16:34.35vhaarrNimbleRabit: The memory is still being used.
16:34.44vhaarrWell, most of it, anyway.
16:34.52Cheadshmm cannot destroy items when I have visor2 loaded :/
16:36.08XuerianTornhoof: I'll load up and see if I can figure it out :P
16:36.28Tornhoof:D
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16:38.01NimbleRabitvhaarr: only about half are loaded (from babble I mean) when before all were (I think that's how it works?)
16:38.06Cheadshmm after reseting visor2 settings.. then it works.. oh well =)
16:38.41vhaarrNimbleRabit: right
16:38.54vodrinwhats the variable for shaman raid color
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16:39.12vodrinand how do i return it to last patch , its making me cry :<
16:40.18XuerianTornhoof: lazypastespot [~Dead?~IsMaxHP?CurHP:Short:Color(ff7f7f)]
16:41.01Laricphanxchat look really funny in 2.1.... you get a message counter
16:41.33durcynvodrin: grab ClassColors.  set it to r = 0, g = 0.86, b = 0.73
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16:42.35ulicthe old color was too close to mage blue, I like the new color, then again, I'm a fan of blue :)
16:42.54hypetechwow...they nerfed the hell out of alch as far as elixirs/flasks go :(
16:43.07XuerianTornhoof: [InCombat?MissingHP:Red!SmartHP] works just fine for me
16:43.13Gagorianhypetech: It's a massive buff
16:43.22GagorianNo more endless consumable farming
16:43.25Gagorian= win!
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16:44.38durcynyeah, now it's just "hey, alchy, gimme a damn cauldron then drop raid, thanks" :o
16:45.16Tornhoofi know it works
16:45.29Tornhoofxuerian, i just want different options than smarthp
16:45.29hypetechwell cauldrons are interesting, but you can only have one type of elixir at a time, if you have a flask you can't have any elixirs, and flasks are basically useless now. The HP flask gives 400hp, where it used to give 1500hp
16:45.30XuerianOh
16:45.30Seerah_I know I'm way behind on the conversation, but I think the mage blue and the shammy teal were discernable.  This new shaman blue is so dark it's hard to read/look at.  It almost matches my mana bars in PB
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16:45.40Tornhoofi just want a complete tag instead of smarthp
16:45.55XuerianText([CurHP] / [MaxHP])
16:47.01phyberanyone got a sha1sum of WoW-2.0.12.6546-to-2.1.0.6692-enGB-patch.exe before I install this one :)
16:47.05phyber</paranoia>
16:47.14Fisker-http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Rexxar&n=Vitario <- :D?
16:47.43Kirkburn|afkphyber, checksums here - http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors#Incremental_Update
16:47.52deltronheh rexxar
16:47.58deltronmy realm had a transfer there
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16:48.21Funkeh`hi all
16:48.30deltronFisker-: what's so special about that pally?
16:48.33phyberKirkburn|afk: I.... don't see them.  links, but no sums.
16:48.39Funkeh`hows patch day going
16:48.47Kirkburn|afkBottom of 2.1.0m list
16:48.51Kirkburn|afk*2.1.0
16:48.55NayonPatch day makes me cry
16:48.55phyberoh, sneaky!
16:49.00phyberdamn rogue checksums.
16:49.19phyber:)
16:49.21phyberthanks
16:49.22deltronlol it's funny
16:49.23Tornhoofyes that works xuerian, ig uess i somewhere missed that Text() part completely
16:49.24Kirkburn|afk:)
16:49.25NayonBlizzard Disabled the Resolution I was playing at..
16:49.37XuerianTornhoof: :)
16:49.37deltronit's a lot harder for enhancement shaman to pull aggro now
16:49.43Fisker-the healing ring from magtheridon is nice
16:49.51deltronwhat resolution? they have my resolution
16:50.22Tornhoofah now, i mistook the parenthesis part for the internal expressions (and actually tried with parenthesis, but never with text)
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16:50.45TecnoBratFisker-, I dont understand what kind of gear that paladin is going for.
16:50.46Cyrez[09:48:04] [Trade - City] [Xien]: I'm still getting used to enchant links being a puketastic shade of yellow.
16:51.00CyrezThat got a couple lol's.
16:51.07deltronthat's like a retarded pvp paladin
16:51.35TecnoBratuhhh ... but hes got healing gear, +dmg holy gear, and +def gear ...
16:51.49deltronlook at his gloves hehe
16:52.07TecnoBratlook at his shield
16:52.12deltronyeah
16:52.17deltronI have that shield on my shammy
16:52.33TecnoBratits a nice shield .. dont get me wrong .. but doesnt go with his gear
16:52.48deltronhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Pixel <-- my pally
16:53.04TecnoBratAnd why would you put 57 points into holy?
16:53.08hypetechif my stormcaller wasn't already all glowy I could see the +40 spelldmg chant effect, what does it look like by itself?
16:53.13kenlyriccause he wants to!
16:53.13deltronand she has crappy gear to begin with
16:53.14Funkeh`wha da fuck
16:53.17Funkeh`happened to the forums
16:53.21NimbleRabitshould I have "libs" folders inside things like BanzaiLib or did I set this up wrong?
16:53.30deltronwhat forums
16:53.36TecnoBrathttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&n=Barbanus
16:53.37TecnoBratthats me
16:54.11hypetech<-- http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Damien
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16:54.27kenlyricwow, it's like a half healing/half damage holy spec, wtf?
16:54.37kenlyricoh, nvm, I'm dumb.
16:55.00Funkeh`wowace forums
16:55.02deltronTecnoBrat: you suck, you have the mail gear I want on my shaman :P
16:55.02kenlyricthat's what I get for reading the irc instead of the actual trees.
16:55.08hugo546tuller you here ?
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16:55.13TecnoBratdeltron, haha
16:55.17KarlThePaganthat's what's so great about the paladin holy tree
16:55.20KarlThePaganyou can heal and pew
16:55.21CyrezMy BE Paladin is something of a hybrid which will result in a heavily armored holy meat sack.
16:55.56deltrondofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Diode <-- my shammy
16:56.07kenlyricKarlThePagan: I think one "pew" is too many to assign to the holy tree.
16:56.16KarlThePaganno no... PEW PEW PEW PEW
16:56.23KarlThePaganbut... usually holy/ret for that many
16:56.29KarlThePaganI've seen it
16:56.36hypetechpew?
16:56.42kenlyricif holy paladin dps is 4 pews, then there aren't enough to calculate shadow priest dps.
16:56.46Wixianyone have problems with SWStats?
16:56.51hypetechwtf is pew?
16:56.54deltronheh I was playing around, I got over 2000 +healing last night with those 2 trinkets I have equipped
16:56.56TecnoBratWixi, sw-stats.com
16:56.58Cryectpew is a damage amount!
16:56.59hypetechWixi: ya
16:57.00deltronWixi: yep, didn't work
16:57.02TecnoBratgo download the new version
16:57.03KarlThePaganhypetech, I'M A CHARGIN MY LAZRS PEW PEW PEW
16:57.05kenlyricit's a unit of damage.
16:57.10hypetecho
16:57.21Wixiah i checked for new version but missed there :) thanks
16:57.25XuerianI wonder how hard it'd be to add a "Disable tooltip" to FubarPlugin >_>
16:57.25kenlyricPriest are like the Starship enterprise, with sheilds and lazers pew pew.
16:57.27KarlThePagankenlyric, too bad they nerfed shad priest dps
16:57.39TecnoBrathttp://forums.sw-stats.com/viewtopic.php?t=321
16:57.40KarlThePagannot terribly, but yea
16:57.41kenlyricKarlThePagan: apparently, they weren't supposeed to be number1.
16:57.46TecnoBratfor the lazy people :P
16:57.48KarlThePaganlol imagine that
16:58.00KarlThePaganhere I was with 300 less +dmg than my guildmates and #4 dps on gruul
16:58.03kenlyric#1, and able to give mana and health back to their group :)
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16:58.26KarlThePaganthat was after I worked SWD into my rotation too :(
16:58.27TecnoBratI did mag on my paladin last night, still had no mana issues
16:58.39kenlyricTecnoBrat: of course.
16:58.57KarlThePaganthe SWD change is going to take me down 50-75 dps, and the weaving is going to of course be a flat 5% nerf
16:59.06kenlyric60% of infinite is still infinite :)
16:59.08KarlThePaganso something like 20 dps
16:59.13TecnoBratkenlyric, haha
16:59.35TecnoBratI was #1 on healing, and still 40% mana by the time we wiped at 35% :P
16:59.43TecnoBratand I hadn't potted yet :P
16:59.49deltronI had no idea where I was last night on healing
16:59.53kenlyricyou were thinking of potting?
16:59.53deltronin kara
16:59.57kenlyricthat's a step in the right direction.
17:00.20TecnoBratkenlyric, well, depended on how hairy 30% went, didnt get that far
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17:01.24MorghAnyone know why the combo-point indicator in ICEHUD is completely transparent?
17:01.24MorghOr nearly :P
17:03.15TecnoBratAnyone have a weird blizzard unit frame floating around?
17:03.46TecnoBratI was in a raid, and there was a blizzard unit frame on my screen, and I have no idea what it was caused by
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17:06.52CIA-2303docbru * r36632 10GuildMap/GuildMap.toc:
17:06.52CIA-23GuildMap:
17:06.52CIA-23- Modified TOC
17:06.53Funkeh`NYMBIA
17:06.53Funkeh`MY ADDONZ R BROKE
17:06.53Funkeh`damn hes not on
17:06.53deltronlol
17:06.53Killmoreomg!
17:08.18indibindihow can i still have errors from addons i don't have anymore?
17:08.20indibindisorrentimers that is
17:09.41NimbleRabitSeerah_: so I just sent 20 minutes making every addon I could LoD and got a wopping 3b (rolls eyes).  I feel better nonetheless
17:09.46NimbleRabits/sent/spent
17:09.52NeoTronanyone here using druid MT's for T5 content (or high end T4, i.e Mag) out of curiosity?
17:10.03kenlyricsweet, I don't need ptreagents foo
17:10.10Seerah_NibleRabit: I'm sure you're doing fine. :)
17:10.31Seerah_yeah, I just got rid of reagentfu
17:10.51Seerah_and EQCompare and cgCrafty
17:11.07NimbleRabitwhat be wrong with eqcompare?
17:11.52Seerah_hmm... maybe I'll put it back in...
17:12.02MikkNeoTron: Druids as MTs for high end content doesn't work very well tbh. No shieldblock to avoid crushing blows. (I play a druid tank fwiw)
17:12.07Seerah_if you hold shift over an item, you'll get a comparison tooltip now
17:12.17MikkThey work very well as OTs though since they can go cat when their duties are done and do sane damage
17:12.22NimbleRabitahh
17:12.25Seerah_but it doesn't work for links in chat, and EQCompare does do the hover link...
17:12.26NimbleRabitI still like eqcompare
17:12.26NeoTronMikk: well can't just have a blanket statement like that
17:12.40deltronI had a lot of stuff I couldn't link
17:12.42NeoTronoverall damage mitigation isn't really too disimilar due to the higher armor and high dodge, no?
17:12.53Mikkdruids mitigate damage very well
17:13.03Mikkbut they still go omfgflat if they eat 3 x 6k crushes
17:13.05NeoTronesp after the patch - our druid tank gained almost 5k armor
17:13.19kenlyricis there a way to purge the mining database from inside cart?
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17:13.32NeoTronheh. well. 19k health.. youd' hope you would get some heals between these 3x6k crushes
17:13.34Mikkand since druids have no way to avoid crushing blows, this DOES happen on the hardhitting mofos
17:13.37deltronkenlyric: i was just going to delete the savedvars
17:13.40XuerianNeoTron: They're excellent, they just don't have a omfgpanic button to survive aforementioned 3x6k crushes
17:13.44Seerah_from in game? not that I know if, but you can purge your sv's, kenlyric
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17:14.01MikkXuerian / NeoTron: Warriors and pallies don't even get 3x6k crushes.
17:14.10NeoTronsure
17:14.11MikkThey get 2x4k normal and then 1 6k crush
17:14.17NeoTronbut each and every hit hits harder
17:14.29NeoTronsomewhat harder
17:14.34XuerianWarriors have a higher steady incoming rate
17:14.40MikkThat's not a problem
17:14.42MikkJust heal through it
17:14.45XuerianDruids have a lower steady incoming rate, but larger spikes
17:14.50MikkIdd
17:14.55XuerianI think :D
17:15.01MikkThat's precisely what happens
17:15.03Imp4kTGuys does anyone else have the problem with the latest Bartender3, that they cant drag skills around that are already on the bars?
17:15.06Seerah_beautiful... a critical error
17:15.12MikkHigh steady = fine, l2mashheal
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17:15.12NimbleRabitwouldn't overall higher armor make smaller spikes
17:15.26MikkHigh spikes = Possibly flat in 1.5s before a heal lands
17:15.26NeoTronNimbleRabit: smaller hits, but due to crushings, higher spikes
17:15.27MikkNot small enough
17:15.42NimbleRabitand warriors don't get crushed?
17:15.46AenslaedNeoTron: yeah, I tank some stuff in ssc and tk
17:15.47NeoTrontypically no
17:15.48MikkNo
17:15.50NeoTronnot nearly as much at least
17:15.52MikkNot chain crushed anyway
17:15.54NimbleRabitWhy is that?
17:15.57XuerianNot like bearcakes :(
17:15.58NeoTronshield block
17:15.59MikkIf you block, you do not get crushed
17:16.03NimbleRabitahh
17:16.06Gnarfozpushing crushing blows off the combat table
17:16.07abyssichateI can't get myself to pick ClassTimer over Chronometer, duh
17:16.11NeoTronthey actually don't get any normal hits either
17:16.14NeoTronjust blocks
17:16.27MikkAt least on slow-hitting mobs they don't
17:16.32vhaarrEnslaved Doomguard yells: $n! Prepare to die!
17:16.33Aenslaeddruid tank is ideal for solarian.  Other fights its fine as an off tank
17:16.34MikkMultiple fast-hitting mobs = druid wins
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17:16.41NimbleRabithow much do blocks generally do anyways
17:16.41NeoTronprince phase 2 => druid is definitely better
17:16.48Xuerianvhaarr: Seen a few unparsed tokens around lately :p
17:16.57MikkNeoTron: Only if your warrior tank is utter crap
17:17.04NeoTronblocks removes just a few hundred damage. that is not the main goal
17:17.05MikkSpec prot up til imp shieldblock, keep it up always
17:17.05MikkWin
17:17.15Imp4kTMirrors dont work @ http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater
17:17.16NeoTronMikk: prince hits too fast to block all hits
17:17.27MikkAye he does, but you block a LOT of them
17:17.28NimbleRabitis there a c/d on blocking
17:17.29Imp4kTThey do now o/
17:17.40AenslaedNeoTron: but what exactly did you want to know about bear tanking in ssc and tk?
17:17.58MikkI mean.. don't get me wrong.. I play a druid tank. I'd love for them to be 100% warrior replacements
17:18.00MikkBut they'er not
17:18.11[Ammo]they're great offtanks
17:18.12NeoTronI'm in a situation where I'm stuck between our warrior MT and druid MT
17:18.14MikkThey omfgpwn warriors in so many aspects of tanking, but NOT when it comes to big mofo hardhitters crushing you senseless
17:18.17NeoTronboth are friends, both want to MT
17:18.20AenslaedNeoTron: which fight?
17:18.29XuerianDruid tank myself, and they're great trash and offtanks, better than warrior IMO. But warriors can't be beat when it comes to bosses
17:18.36Kaydeethreemeh. it's scary. one of our druid tank's almost at the armor cap only buffed with mark
17:18.41NeoTronwell last night I suggested changing from warrior to druid on gruul because the healers sucked bad
17:18.46NimbleRabitMikk: is there a c/d on block? if so what is it?  Just curios
17:18.46Kaydeethreejust after logging in yesterday with the epix upgrades
17:18.53MikkNimbleRabit: there is
17:19.02MikkNeoTron: Warrior MT on gruul, druid OT
17:19.03oxEzhm what do I have to do so my Ace2 addons work with wow patch 2.1?
17:19.07Mikkdruid is the perfect OT on gruul
17:19.10XuerianoxEz: update
17:19.13NeoTronand in one attempt the MT died, the second OT died (wtfhurtfulstrike) and all other melee was dead.. and they kept the druid tank up taking both hurtful strikes and normal dmg
17:19.25NeoTronso I suggested why not just swap the tanks, kill him and move on
17:19.27AenslaedNeoTron: meh. gruul it hardly matters. Use misdirect to suppliment threat, get better healers....
17:19.28Mikkbecause he can keep up with aggro generation, has higher armor, and excellent dodge. and hurtful strike can't crit/crushy
17:19.32oxEzXuerian: I figured, but are there updated already?
17:19.40XuerianoxEz: We've been working on the ptr ;)
17:19.50NeoTronreally I was just frustrated because the fucking healers couldn't keep the tank up. growth 7!
17:20.03Kaydeethreethe US went through the teething of getting stuff updated yesterday
17:20.05Kaydeethreemost should work now
17:20.06Mikkyour healers need better coordination
17:20.09NeoTronbut I know from experience the druid tank has a harder time dying..
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17:20.14oxEzXuerian: hm, so do I have to just update Ace2, or all my addons that use it?
17:20.14Aenslaeddon't comphensate for shitty healing by changing tanks
17:20.15kenlyrichealers, coordinate?
17:20.25AenslaedNeoTron: thats totally not true
17:20.30XuerianoxEz: All addons that use it
17:20.35AenslaedNeoTron: warriors have much more control over 'not dying'
17:20.43NeoTronthat said on mag we use the druid on Mag and the mt warrioron the last add. pre-patch our main issue was the last two adds
17:20.44XuerianoxEz: Should be a simple task with WAU or similar :)
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17:20.48NeoTronnow the adds are almost trivial
17:20.54Mikkit's _possible_ to tank gruul with a druid.. but only with luck. if said druid eats 3 crushes in rapid succession, he's flat.
17:21.02Mikkand chances are this will happen several times over the course of a gruul attempt
17:21.05Aenslaedbeing able to heal pot/health stone, last stand, shield wall is unbelievably strong
17:21.11NeoTronAenslaed: warriors have oh shit buttons, but druids can take more hits before dying normally
17:21.32oxEzXuerian: Alright, thanks for the help
17:21.33NeoTronMikk: the easiest gruul kill so far prepatch was druid mt and druid ot
17:21.33Mikkmore NORMAL hits yes
17:21.36Aenslaednormal hits doesnt matter though
17:21.49Aenslaedyou are talking about 500hp difference a hit at most
17:22.02Aenslaedif your healers cannot comphensate for that, replace them
17:22.07NeoTronnot going to argue the merits, just going by "feel' from what I've seen
17:22.13NeoTronand yes we're working on that aen
17:22.22MikkDoes your warrior tank have like 12k health unbuffed and fury/arms spec by chance?
17:22.23NeoTrongot some bottom scraps we need to cut out
17:22.27XuerianNeoTron: If your group works better with druid tanks, that isn't really a malfunction
17:22.36AenslaedMikk: raid buffed our prot warrs have 18k hp
17:22.40Silviu-Hmmm
17:22.43AenslaedMikk: and I can only manage 16k
17:22.46kenlyricok.
17:22.51NeoTronMikk: lawl. no. he has 12.5k unbuffed, 11/1/49 spec
17:22.56Aenslaedthis is under the new flask/pot rules
17:22.57kenlyricI seriously want to move to this land.
17:22.58Funkeh`wowace is dieng :/
17:23.00NeoTronI think he had 17-18k buffed last night
17:23.05Silviu-Quartz Buffs is nice
17:23.06NeoTrondruid had 19k something
17:23.14MikkThat's bloody high for a druid
17:23.14XuerianFunkeh`: Say it isn't so! Server is slowing down?
17:23.17MikkMust be very low on dodge
17:23.17Silviu-Ditching Chronometer too
17:23.18Silviu-;)
17:23.22Funkeh`:p
17:23.31[Ammo]I'm pondering on that as well :p
17:23.34Aenslaedyeah... 19k hp is not reasonable since the sta nerf
17:23.36[Ammo]but I'll see how it pans out
17:23.37XuerianNeoTron: Link us to the druid :P
17:23.39NeoTronMikk: err. I think about 40% unbuffed dodge
17:23.45Mikko.O
17:23.47AenslaedNeoTron: those numbers are false
17:23.58Aenslaedplease re-verify.
17:24.00MikkFeckall defense?
17:24.02NeoTroncommanding shout
17:24.09NeoTronsec
17:24.26MikkThose numbers seriously do not add up
17:24.33Aenslaedthe gear doesn't exist to have 19k hp raid buffed, 40% dodge and 415def
17:24.39MikkUnless you dump armor and defense
17:24.45MikkWhich i wouldn't do personally
17:24.57Aenslaedyeah. 22k armor at the very least. 24k ideally
17:24.58NeoTronshe didn't log out in bear form
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17:25.17Xuerianferal gear?
17:25.18Aenslaedthe numbers are still false. The gear doesn't exist to do  that
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17:26.03Aenslaedcause its about as ridiculous as a warrior saying he has 22k hp, 50% combined mit, 16k armor
17:26.10Cryect22k armor would be damn low now since the changes
17:26.14NeoTronhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Lunaaduro
17:26.22NeoTronshe gained 1k HP, 5k armor in the patch
17:26.25NeoTronand over 1% dodge
17:26.40MikkI certainly have gear that gives me 45% dodge unbuffed and 415 def
17:26.45MikkBut that's at the expense of armor and sta
17:26.56Cryectright
17:27.42MikkAnd, yeah, 45% dodge is higher overall damage mitigation that going for 22k+ armor
17:27.45MikkBut spikier ofc =)
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17:28.02CryectIts much better to go for higher armor than 45% dodge
17:28.10Cryectsince well the armor is cheaper :-p
17:28.11AenslaedNeoTron: thats still only around 16.3k raid buffed no flask. 16.9k with flask.
17:28.33MikkCryect: fully depends on what you're tanking. i love it for trash =)
17:28.43NeoTronshe definitely had more health than that.
17:28.56NeoTronremember that things like fort, motw and kings benefit druids more
17:29.07Cryectyeah trash... who cares about the trash :-p I care about the things that hit me hard and I will deal with 35% dodge or so
17:29.16kenlyricCryect: and armor makes the damage less spiky than dodge.
17:29.31Cryectyep, plus none of that chance stuff
17:29.40NeoTronI'll ask her when I see her what her stats were
17:29.54Sarozvhaarr, command to loop a rosterlib roster? wowace.com is slow as hell
17:30.03CIA-2303jncl * r36633 10Skinner/ (16 files in 2 dirs):
17:30.03CIA-23Skinner: Skinned BankAccountant, BigTrouble, CBRipoff, GM Ticket Status, Karma, MobMap, NECB, Omnibus, SpellBinder & Visor2GUI
17:30.03CIA-23- Moved new Checkbox and Search box on the Tradeskill frame
17:30.03CIA-23- Moved new Checkbox on the Craft frame
17:30.03CIA-23- Fixed PanelMove C Stack Overflow bug
17:30.07NeoTronbut if a warrior has 18k health why is it strange that a druid, that has 1k healt more unbuffed, has 19k?
17:30.11Cryectits a sure thing versus hey sometimes I don't take damage for 20 seconds then other times constant big hits (which it can be fun sometimes to tank a boss for 30 seconds in my DPS gear its not reasonable)
17:30.11AenslaedNeoTron: either way. gruul isn't an tank fight anymore. Its a healer fight
17:30.20Aenslaedthe fight got nerfed from a tank fight to a healer fight
17:30.30Cryectwait how did it get nerfed to a healer fight?
17:30.31Cryecthuh
17:30.32NeoTronAenslaed: they added a lot more aoe silence in the patch
17:30.42AenslaedCryect: cause he doesn't hit nearly as hard anymore
17:30.53CryectAenslaed: hence its not a healing fight
17:31.05NeoTronthe hurtful strike hitting the third highest aggro is imho retarded
17:31.13Cryectthats prolly a bug hopefully
17:31.14NeoTronlike a way to make the fight useful for 3 tanks or something
17:31.18NeoTronI hope so
17:31.20NeoTronit's annoying
17:31.35NeoTronthen our druid OT is doing nothing but just standing there building aggro to be second
17:31.38AenslaedCryect: but because he doesn't hit as hard, the only responsibilities a tank would have is to be in rage after a slam. THats it
17:31.38[Ammo]well the spare tanks you bring to maulgar were essentially useless :)
17:31.52[Ammo]now they can at least do what they were made to do
17:31.53[Ammo]:)
17:32.01[Ammo]doesn't change the fight much
17:32.09Cryect[Ammo]: DPS warriors and druids aren't useless?
17:32.10Aenslaedyeah. just means a rogue takes off salv heh
17:32.11NeoTronthat is true
17:32.33[Ammo]Cryect: I'd bring a true dps over one of them
17:32.37[Ammo]in a 25 man
17:32.40[Ammo]10 mans is another story
17:32.43NeoTroni must say I'm having a blast tanking the shaman in the maulgar fight
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17:32.55Aenslaeda feral dps druid is both a tank and dps... same spec provides both
17:33.07XuerianSimilar specs, anyway.
17:33.11CIA-2303athou * r36634 10ArenaMaster/:
17:33.11CIA-23ArenaMaster:
17:33.11CIA-23- fixing externals
17:33.11christosreidanyone know why Skinner AGUF etc have suddenly stopped working after working fine all morning?
17:33.13Cryect[Ammo]: Yeah except most encounters require 3 tanks anyways and well gruul you could do with any mixture
17:33.22Cryect3+
17:33.30XuerianAenslaed: Anyhow, dps gear isn't the same as tank gear :p
17:33.45[Ammo]Cryect: DPS warriors are pathetic nowadays
17:33.48AenslaedXuerian: gear can be swapped between pulls, specs cannot
17:34.10[Ammo]leaving them home and bringing something else is the best way to go
17:34.13Cryect[Ammo]: Yeah they are hence we have 1 for Battle Shout and then its feral druids and 2 prot warriors
17:34.29XuerianAenslaed: Yes, but you said a feral dps druid, not a feral druid. A feral tank druid or a feral dps druid might not bring the other respective gear :p
17:34.49Cryectferal DPS druid and feral tank druid are slightly different specs actually
17:35.10Mikkblah. you can get all the important points for raids in the same spec
17:35.24CIA-2303gamefaq * r36635 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:
17:35.24CIA-23Babble-2.2:
17:35.25CIA-23- 2.1.0 deDE Update for Serpentshrine Cavern -> Höhle des Schlangenschreins
17:35.41AenslaedCryect: 3-2 point difference at the tier 2 feral talent tree is the only difference...
17:35.57NeoTronin SSC/TK are there other fights that require multiple "main" tanks like Hydross?
17:35.58CryectAenslaed: actually more of a difference in natural shapeshifter
17:35.58XuerianMikk: Right, I only said similiar because he pointed out "feral dps" not feral, indicating a druid who was striving for dps, who would sacrifice tanking points for damage points :P
17:36.07AenslaedNeoTron: fathomlord
17:36.10NeoTronbecause no matter how we look at it the guild has one warrior one druid MT
17:36.12Aenslaedrequires 4 tanks
17:36.17CryectNeoTron: Like every fight
17:36.24Aenslaedno
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17:36.38AenslaedCryect: lurker needs 2. tidewalker needs only 1 tank
17:36.44vhaarrSaroz: for name, unit in pairs(AceLibrary("Roster-2.1).roster) do end
17:36.51Thoroxanyone have any hints or tips for sorting ace addons at all? mine have broken after working fine all morning :(
17:36.55Aenslaedhaven't attempted leotheras
17:36.57CryectTIdewalker you let the adds run loose?
17:37.05CryectLurker you let one add run loose?
17:37.11Aenslaedyou dont tank them...
17:37.18Aenslaedyou use cc
17:37.25Cryector you tank them
17:37.26KaeltenI think the server is doing a cleanup on its logs
17:37.32Kaeltenshould come back up in just a min
17:37.32[Ammo]ah :)
17:37.33GagorianAnyone interested in translating some strings for DrDamage?
17:37.33Aenslaedor you can sheep them and be done with the affair?
17:37.42GagoriandeDE and frFR at least
17:37.50[Ammo]request on forums when they are back gagorian
17:38.07TecnoBratI know, minutes behind ... the Gruul Hurtful strike issue is a bug.
17:38.07[Ammo]usually works best
17:38.07CryectAenslaed: Uh I thought the adds aren't sheepable on the middle platform?
17:38.07Aenslaedthe ones on the side platforms will multishot regardless of if a tank is on them or not. The middle platform ambushers are sheepable
17:38.10[Ammo]Lurker adds sheepable?
17:38.15[Ammo]now that's good info :p
17:38.23Aenslaed.... what kind of bad mages do you have?
17:38.28Gagorian:D
17:38.31[Ammo]we were getting wtfpwned by them because we tried to tank em :)
17:38.32[Ammo]hehe]
17:38.33CryectWell why would you sheep them?
17:38.33NeoTronwe have ONE mage that's worthy for 25-man raids atm
17:38.34Thoroxlol, pwntz
17:38.35Cryectinstead of killing them
17:38.42CryectHeh we break up into 3 dps groups
17:38.46Aenslaedyou sheep them so you dont need more tanks?
17:38.54[Ammo]we did as well, but you acn sheep em to free up tanks
17:38.55Aenslaedyou kill one at a time
17:38.58Cryectwe have the tanks for other encounters and trash
17:38.59[Ammo]and preventing one tank to tank 2
17:39.07Kaeltensquids log just went kablowee
17:39.11CryectI mean we kill all the adds with 15 seconds to spare normally what should we do?
17:39.18Cryectsheep them and stare at them waiting?
17:39.24Aenslaedyou need 1 MT, and one OT. The OT just breaks the sheeps as the previous ambusher is killed
17:39.45AenslaedCryect: kill lurker in less than 4 dives then?
17:39.46CryectAenslaed: you bring mainly ranged DPS I assume?
17:39.46[Ammo]Cryect: everyone has a slight different way of doing thing
17:39.53Aenslaedno, melee heavy
17:39.54CryectAenslaed: yes
17:40.15Aenslaedwe have 3 of every class except hunters
17:40.23Aenslaedand sometimes 2 shamans
17:40.30Aenslaedone enhance, one resto
17:40.33break19has autobar tainting issue been fixed, anyone know?
17:40.55NeoTronfrom a mage perspective, do you typically need 3 in a 25-man? is 2 ok? We need to recruit, just need to figure out how many
17:41.05deltronomg this redesign of newegg.com sucks
17:41.07Cryectyes
17:41.09Aenslaed3 is ideal for most fights
17:41.11[Ammo]3 is nice
17:41.12Cryectyou often want 3 for sheeps
17:41.14[Ammo]3 locks is nice too
17:41.21Aenslaed3 mages, 3 locks, 2 backups
17:41.26NeoTronwe have 5 locks, 4 very solid,  so that's covered
17:41.31[Ammo]hehe
17:41.40Aenslaedstacking casters is good for fathomlord and solarian in TK
17:41.41[Ammo]we have 2 very solid locks
17:41.41CryectAnyways Al'ar was kinda a 6 tank fight (not sure with the changes), Fel Reaver 3 to 4 (4 I would say is preferred), Solarian really varies based on how you do it
17:41.49[Ammo]but we're both with wife and child so kinda not always there
17:41.54Aenslaedsolarian is no tank...
17:42.01AenslaedI tank it in feral dps gear...
17:42.06TecnoBratFYI, Gruul Hurtful strike issue : http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/devtracker/1/en/details/7185/
17:42.15CryectAenslaed: what do you do kick your prot warrior out of the raid?
17:42.27AenslaedCryect: they cannot generate the threat required
17:42.38CryectAenslaed: your warriors suck ass then
17:42.40Aenslaedsince we burn her 25-30% before first split
17:42.46CryectAenslaed: same...
17:42.59Aenslaedthis is under the new mechanic
17:43.09Aenslaedwhere she arc missiles 360 degrees again
17:43.14Aenslaednot whoever is in her frontal arc
17:43.20Cryecthaven't tried the new one
17:43.23Aenslaedno rage, no threat
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17:43.42Cryectwe were getting 25%-30% before first split under old one
17:43.54Cryectand she has less hP now
17:44.02Aenslaedits a harder fight now i feel
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17:44.06Aenslaedmuch harder
17:44.09Kaeltensites back
17:44.16Kaeltensquid's log hit 2.1 gb and died
17:44.38TecnoBratKaelten, haha .. dont you love that?
17:44.39Aenslaedless HP, but the fact that the arc missiles can't be contained, makes the space aids stacking a real issue now
17:44.44TecnoBratlogrotate = ftw
17:44.55KaeltenI was rotating every day
17:44.58Kaeltennormally more than enough
17:45.14kenlyricif your tanks got you to solarian, they can't suck that badly.
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17:46.28pdpihow badly is the site getting hammered today?
17:46.31CryectAenslaed: heh btw the reason I said solarian varies is do you have people AOE taunt or not though you are only tanking for 6 seconds and wearing DPS gear :-p
17:46.50Aenslaedbut thats just me.
17:47.01CIA-2303jerry * r36636 10Talented_Data/ (21 files in 3 dirs): Talented_Data: updates to version 2.1.0
17:47.06AenslaedCryect: we don't ae taunt at all on 25 man content. no situation where we do
17:47.33break19hmm.. I've noticed that the ace2 libs (the main Ace2 addon) can be moved into their own addon folders, but there isnt a filelist.wau included...
17:47.37Aenslaedits infinitely better to use a pally with righteous fury to cluster up mobs for you
17:47.48Cryectits the only place we do
17:47.57Aenslaedor a chain heailng shaman, either works
17:48.18Cryectthats what we do for most places but preferred aoe taunt on solarian
17:48.50Aenslaedwe just do it the same way as tidewalker. Position ourselves so that all 3 spawns converge, frost nova/frost trap, soc, ae
17:49.07CryectWe pally tank on Morogrim with RF
17:50.03NeoTronso what kind of helaing corps do you recommend?
17:50.10NeoTronhigh on pallies?
17:50.23Aenslaed3-4 pallies, 1 resto druid, 1-2 holy priests(one with DS)
17:50.24Cryectin general with a few of each of the other healers
17:50.31NeoTronas you can imagine, with the MT dyign at 7growths on gruul, we need to .. recruit some
17:50.37Aenslaedoh, 1 resto shaman for sure
17:50.51Cryectbasically 7-8 healers normally 7
17:50.56Aenslaedwe bring 7 healers normally
17:50.56Aenslaedyeah
17:51.00NeoTronah
17:51.00NeoTronlow
17:51.15Aenslaedskill > quantity
17:51.20Cryectyep
17:51.22Funkeh`nevcairiel: bt3 has severa lag issues when adding more buttons to a bar
17:51.39TecnoBratAenslaed, do you ever look at healing meters?
17:51.42Kaeltenanyone good at configing logrotate?
17:51.56CryectHealing meters are about the worst meters of all
17:52.08Cryectelse than you can identify who was assigned to what type of healing
17:52.10AenslaedTecnoBrat: yeah. I used to be the top resto druid in guild pre-tbc>.>
17:52.11NeoTronthe best healing meter: do ppl die
17:52.23Kaelten<PROTECTED>
17:52.25AenslaedNeoTron: not neccessarily
17:52.33NeoTronwell I know that's not all of it
17:52.36Aenslaedbut you dont look at healing meters as 1-2-3
17:52.38TecnoBratAenslaed, what does your meter usually look like?
17:52.38NeoTronbut overall healing meters are iffy
17:52.42Aenslaedif anything, you look at overheals
17:52.51Aenslaedand heals to target
17:52.56NeoTronin some fights though, overhealing is a good thing
17:53.00TecnoBratAenslaed, overheal means nothing, unless the healer is OOM
17:53.00AenslaedTecnoBrat: paladins dominate, resto shaman comes close
17:53.08NeoTronmeaning you have bana, it's better ot overheal than miss a heal
17:53.14AenslaedTecnoBrat: no, overheal means that healers are being lazy
17:53.34NeoTrona lot of cotnent seems to require proactive healing and not reactive
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17:53.41Aenslaedyou yell when over heals on pallies and priests are > 30%
17:53.41NimbleRabitif you cancel overhealing should be low
17:53.43TecnoBratI like looking at who healer heal
17:53.43NeoTronpre-BC most content worked with proactive healing
17:53.54Cryectheh our priests are lazy asses on trash spamming CoH
17:54.14CIA-2303bom * r36638 10Depot/Depot.toc:
17:54.15CIA-23Depot:
17:54.15CIA-23- correct toc for patch 2.1.0
17:54.15Cryectand with it 40%-50% overhealing
17:54.25NeoTronAenslaed: heh I wish. we have quite a lot of overhealing in the 60% range
17:54.26TecnoBratYou look at my healing, you see a good chunk going to tanks .. and then all spread out. You look at some healers, and its all just going to tanks, none to the raid at all.
17:54.31NeoTronbut since they have plenty of mana, that is not an issue
17:54.49TecnoBrat60% overhealing?!?
17:54.51AenslaedNeoTron: that means your healers are rock stupid and just mash a single heal spell on a single target never caring
17:54.57NeoTronyes
17:54.58TecnoBratwtf are they all spamming the tank while the raid dies?
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17:55.07NeoTronwe have to tell healers to heal the MT solely
17:55.12NeoTronbecause when they don't the MT dies
17:55.15NeoTronyes, I know it's bad
17:55.20Cryectwell you tell some healers to heal the MT
17:55.22NeoTronand having played a healer before it's horrible
17:55.25Aenslaedwell, you always assign one healer to watch the tank and only the tank
17:55.25Cryectand some healers to heal the raid :-p
17:55.35NeoTronfor gruul we have 1 raid healer, 1 OT healer, rest on the MT
17:55.36Cryector ot's etc
17:56.12NeoTronthat means 5 healers solely on the MT
17:56.12Cryectyou have to assign healers otherwise they often all decide to stop healing the MT at the same time to heal like 2 or 3 people who almost got themselves kileld
17:56.12NeoTronand he still fucking dies
17:56.12TecnoBratyes, we assign healing also .. but because you are assigned to someone doesnt mean you can have tunnel vision and just mash a button
17:56.12NeoTroncan you tell I'm frustrated?
17:56.21Aenslaedwell, next time. just set up an extra tab on swstats to check which targets your healers have healed, and their over heal
17:56.23NeoTronsome of our healers are amazing
17:56.26Aenslaedthats all the fuel you need
17:56.32NeoTronsome are good, some are pure crap. we're cutting them out however
17:56.36KarlThePaganafter 12 grows you better have some kind of tunnel vision and spam heals on the mt
17:56.46Aenslaedmeh, its still managable at 12
17:56.47KarlThePaganunless he's some kind of god
17:56.49TecnoBrathaha true KarlThePagan
17:56.50NeoTronAenslaed: use wow web stats
17:57.09KarlThePaganheh, at 12 we fire off improved LoH and stoneshield pots
17:57.12NeoTronso the first attempt dps died on shatters
17:57.17AenslaedNeoTron: that requries that the log is uploaded. SW you can use on the fly during raids
17:57.18KarlThePagancourse we're just starting to get him on farm status
17:57.19NeoTronwe had 19 growths and the tank was still up
17:57.21nevcairielFunkeh`: adding more buttons?
17:57.29Funkeh`yeah
17:57.32Funkeh`i got my bars
17:57.32NeoTronwhat is so maazing is that, well, he was still up and then kept dyign later on at 7
17:57.34durcynhe should be dead by 14 anyway
17:57.36Funkeh`default at 8
17:57.36KarlThePagan19 grows is disgusting
17:57.42Funkeh`went to add it to 12 using scroll wheel
17:57.44Funkeh`lag spikes
17:57.48TecnoBratuhhhh ... you had 19 stacks?
17:57.49NeoTrontrust me, not normal
17:57.54NeoTronyeah
17:58.02KarlThePaganbad dps
17:58.03durcynand that's with ~5 dps dead
17:58.03NeoTronbecause people somehow forgot that "shatter is bad"
17:58.07KarlThePaganhaha
17:58.19NeoTronI'm just impressed the tank stayed up so long
17:58.19Aenslaedmost we ever got it to was 18, but that was pre-nerf gruul with the stupid ground slam damage
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17:58.38Cryecthehe prenerf gruul was interesting getting up that high
17:58.44NeoTronbut we have this priest who ALWAYS is the first to die on SOMETHING
17:58.46durcynNeoTron: the real trick is when you get some smart rogue that decides to CoS it and blows up the MT
17:58.53NeoTronbe it the first infernal on prince, the first shatter etc
17:59.08Cryectwe normally wipe at 16+ growths on pregruul from bad silence
17:59.12NimbleRabitso I just started using WAU and it won't show BigWigs as being installed
17:59.16NeoTrondurcyn: our rogues seemed to find it funny to run around with CloS and then end up too close after all
17:59.38Aenslaedto be honest, ground slam is so trivial these days
17:59.44Aenslaedits really like geddon now
17:59.47CryectNeoTron: tell them to stop dieing or gremove or demote or whatever I mean is this person wearing only primal mooncloth?
17:59.50NeoTronwe did have bad luck a few times
17:59.53Aenslaedyou can assassinate people, but other than that, nobody dies.
17:59.59NeoTronlike one time 6-7 ppl got put in basically the same spot
18:00.00break19whee! autobar appears to be fixed :)
18:00.06break19all is right with the world again
18:00.15NeoTronCryect: heh. that person is going to be gkicked
18:00.25NeoTronhe refused to take the gloves from attumen over blue gloves
18:00.37NeoTronI'm 99% sure that he doesn't want to spend the gold on gems and enchants...
18:00.48Aenslaedwell... tbh
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18:00.59AenslaedI was wearing 8/8 stormrage when my guild first did 4 horsemen
18:01.07NeoTronactually he isn't using enchants
18:01.09Aenslaedevery other boss in the instance down cept him, 8/8 sr :D
18:01.25NeoTronhe has nightstaff of the everliving
18:01.28NeoTronhave had it for a month now
18:01.30NeoTronno enchant
18:01.37NeoTronI mean sure, there are better things but wtf
18:01.39Aenslaedrefused to switch to dreamwalker even though i had 4 pieces in the bank haha
18:01.46Cryectheh we are beginning to force T5 if its going to rot on mages/locks/priest since there is actual encounters that require you have more than base HP
18:02.03CryectAenslaed: damn 8 piece SR wasn't that good (then again the belt never dropped for me so I never knew for sure :-p)
18:02.11NeoTronI'll ctually take T5 over shadoweave I think
18:02.13Aenslaedit was with swiftmend
18:02.23Aenslaed15 second rejuvs, 15second swiftmend c/d
18:02.39Aenslaedmade things alot easier.
18:02.54Cryectshrug the extra +healing and mp5 on most hte pieces of DW I found was a lot better
18:02.55KaeltenI'm wondering what would happen if I set daily and a size in log rotate's config
18:03.03Cryectnow the DW Helm was garbage
18:03.06AenslaedCryect: well, this was before down ranking
18:03.16Aenslaederr, down ranking got nerfed
18:03.19CryectAenslaed: what do you mean before down ranking?
18:03.25Cryectoh you mean after?
18:03.27Aenslaedall you'd be doing is spamming rank 4 HT anyways. infinite heals per mana bar
18:03.46AenslaedI could heal like 120k hp per mana bar...
18:03.49renchapKaelten: logrotate is usualy run once a day, be careful with this :)
18:03.54CryectAenslaed: I spammed more than rank 4 HT >_> if you just spammed rank 4 HT then you were pretty worthless except for endurance healing
18:04.07AenslaedCryect: What in naxx wasn't endurance healing?
18:04.12Kaeltenrenchap but I need to rotate it more
18:04.17Kaeltenthats why wowace crashed a few mins ago
18:04.23renchapdo you really need logs ?
18:04.24CryectThere was some places where you could predict damage spikes
18:04.33Kaeltenyes
18:04.48AenslaedCryect: faerlina, loatheb, gothik if things went bad. 4horsemen. those are the only non endurance healing encounters
18:05.10Aenslaedeverything else, you got 14 other healers in the raid with you
18:05.16Aenslaedwhy overheal
18:05.34CryectWhy do you overheal with larger heals?
18:05.57Aenslaedcause its not worth cancelling against 14 other healers?
18:05.58CryectI mean thats just being a lazy healer if you need to use HT4 to not overhela
18:06.26CryectAnyways it depends on the encounter and whats causing the damage
18:06.36Cryectsome fights were just stupid for healers
18:06.49NeoTronI had been playing around some with demo spec (no particular reason)
18:06.50Cryectlike the entire plague wing :-p
18:06.53Aenslaedas I listed. 4 fights before sapphiron that were not endurance. the rest were literally stand there and heal
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18:07.08NeoTronon gruul last night I was only 5th or 6th on dps. got tired and as trash was respawning went and respecced
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18:07.25NeoTronthen back to 1 or 2 (another affliction lock is always within 5k dmg to me on gruul)
18:07.31CryectMaexxna wasn't endurance and KT wasn't endurance
18:07.33Aenslaedpwerk stand and heal. grobb move a little bit but stand there and heal. gluth stand there and heal. thaddius run through him and heal
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18:07.49CryectSapphiron wasn't a fight I could spam HT4 either I needed more HPS
18:08.18Aenslaedmaex didn't have jack for burst. just throw regrowth/rejuv before the spray, SW after its over, go back to HT4...
18:08.20CryectAbom wing was stupid and was stand and heal
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18:08.55NeoTronah here's another question
18:09.02NeoTronShadow priest for DPS or healers? :)
18:09.07CryectDPS
18:09.10Aenslaed2-3 shadow priests
18:09.14Cryecthealers shouldn't be runnign out of mana
18:09.28Aenslaeddepending on how many mana users you bring, 2-3 shadow priests
18:09.29CryectBut yeah we run with 2 shadow priests
18:09.31NimbleRabitwhy is it my wau only shows bigwigs under "packages"?  Shouldn't there be some others (cartographer?) in there as well?
18:09.38NeoTronof course last night we had just 1 mage and 1 hunter and locks don't need it
18:09.50NeoTronbut we have 2 shadow priests now
18:10.06NeoTronone awesome, one who somehow does a lot less dps than the awesome one with similar gear
18:10.19Cryectlocks need it
18:10.25Cryectif they have to life tap thats lost dps
18:10.30NeoTrontrue
18:10.37NeoTronbut don't need it as much I guess
18:10.43NeoTronI've never had one really
18:10.52Cryecthunters you don't need in your raid unless misdirection would be useful
18:10.52NimbleRabitlifetap does a lot since scaling
18:10.54NimbleRabitit's not a big deal
18:10.59NeoTronon a bugged gruul, I sustained 997 DPS pre-patch
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18:11.14NeoTronif you're aff spec not so big deal, if you're dest spec it's more useful
18:12.04NimbleRabitI fixed my WAU, no thanks to you guys
18:12.05NimbleRabitT_T
18:13.00NeoTronlawl
18:13.13NeoTronone of our locks posted this about our Gruul fight last night: Gruul: Downs Syndrome Slap Fight, loot on try #5
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18:13.33NeoTronno offense meant but it was really rather pathetic, despite the hurtful strike change
18:14.24break19~seen Ominous
18:15.24purlominous <i=HydraIRC@85-210-158-233.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 53m 10s ago, saying: 'i know i made it, i meant what was it causing'.
18:15.25TecnoBratNeoTron, its a bug :P
18:15.25MikkCryect: we have hunters doing 1000+ dps
18:15.25Mikksustained
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18:15.39Mikkgogo roogle gear + shadowpriest with VT topping up their mana =)
18:16.12NeoTronTecnoBrat: yeah I know. what I mean is we sucked way worse than we should
18:16.17NeoTronthat bug wasn't what wiped us
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18:18.00SeykenPatch 2.1 online, thanks for all the addons :)
18:19.13CIA-2303gamefaq * r36640 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:
18:19.13CIA-23Babble-2.2:
18:19.13CIA-23- Don't ask...i hate my Mouse
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18:21.53NimbleRabitis anyone else getting a large number of prat errors?
18:22.37Gnarfoz_hm
18:22.46Gnarfoz_you can't dress up NPC models anymore :<
18:23.31kergothheh
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18:26.59Saint-Nwonder if longhorn is gonna be any fun to muck with
18:27.47kergoth"My husband gave me a necklace. It's fake. I requested fake. Maybe I'm paranoid, but in this day and age, I don't want something around my neck that's worth more than my head."
18:28.17Saint-N"was it pearl?"
18:28.29TecnoBratlonghorn?
18:28.34TecnoBratwasnt that the codename for vista?
18:28.38Kaydeethreeya
18:28.39Saint-Nwindows server 2k8
18:29.11Saint-Nvista was blackcome or something
18:29.40TecnoBratno
18:29.42TecnoBratit was longhorn
18:29.46TecnoBrathttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista
18:29.50Matrix110Longhorn was Vista aswell they split it up orso
18:29.53TecnoBratWindows Vista was known by its codename "Longhorn"
18:30.12Saint-Nwas going through my stuff and i found a machine thts 3gHT p4, with 120gb sata raid and 128mb pci-e video so figured meh what the hell
18:30.19TecnoBrathttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_%22Longhorn%22 - It was known as codename Windows Server "Longhorn" until May 15, 2007
18:30.19Saint-Noh
18:30.38Saint-Nya know whts funny?
18:30.54Saint-Nthey have all these codenames for stuff and the end product comes out with the lamest names
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18:30.59Matrix110http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_%22Vienna%22
18:31.03Matrix110here is Blackcomb:P
18:31.04Saint-Nwindows 2000, server 2003 server 2008
18:31.14TecnoBrat"vista"
18:31.15*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ
18:31.15TecnoBrat"xp"
18:31.19TecnoBrat"me"
18:31.23Saint-Nthe end user ones need to be named something
18:31.45Saint-Nso they dont catch on that they'll need a new OS in X years ;)
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18:32.02Saint-Ni have a client thats got ME on this one machine
18:32.28XuerianDon't... mention... that..
18:32.59Saint-Ni hate working on it so i say "ill bring up win2k ive got a spare disc" "oh and whats so bad about ME?" "its the worst windows product in existence" she rolls her eyes "but dont take me word for it go online and see for yourself, there isnt a single tech on this planet that would say its good
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18:33.22durcynit's all windows, bollocks to the lot of it
18:33.34Xueriandurcyn: Shades of grey
18:33.37Xuerian(or puke, in this case)
18:33.49Saint-N"i dont have time to play on the computer all day" said with a sneer "thats fine, then you're just gonna ahve to get off yer high horse and admit i know more than you, cuz at the end of the day MY machines still function correctly yet you keep paying me to fix your mistakes"
18:34.06TecnoBratif I could play wow nicely on linux, I'd never run windows :P
18:34.13Saint-Ni love dealing with arrogant "funds managers"
18:34.19durcynwow chugs along happily under wine/cedega
18:34.21KaeltenSaint-N: I had ONE good ME install, it ran flawlessly
18:34.26Kaeltenafter that they all had issues
18:34.51alextnot sure if any of you have messed around with the latest BananaBar2, but when I try to load it, wow locks up and requires me to CTRL+ALT+DEL
18:34.55alextemailed the author about it
18:34.57Saint-Ni still have my image of the perfect ME install, sadly the machine the image was made for doesnt exist anymore ;P
18:35.06alextwas checking here to see if anyone else had issues with it
18:35.16Saint-Ndid you toggle "n00b" to off ?
18:35.24Saint-N;)
18:35.37durcynmore flies with honey, Saint-N.
18:35.42nevcairielwhats the API command for creating a "recipe" link of any trade skill?
18:35.45nevcairielnew in 2.1
18:35.49ravagernltekkub: I'm missing a few pets in kennel
18:36.00Ordoghas somebody found out how that netherdrake illusion bug works?
18:36.21Tekkubpets were pulled from PT3
18:36.29Tekkubnew ones aren't in it yet, duh:P
18:37.22Saint-Nheh
18:37.38Saint-Nif i wanted flies i'd use honey ;P
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18:37.57Saint-Nbut really aside from spiders and bats who wants more flies ;P
18:38.14kergothTecnoBrat, the worst case fps in my wow is worse by far in windows than it was in linux in emulation.  the best case was the other way around
18:38.24kergothfor me anyway
18:38.26ravagernltekkub: I added them myself too :)
18:38.28Saint-Nmy wife actually cringes when i tell her how i treat my clients that are arrogant ;P
18:38.34durcynnevcairiel: hmm.. GetCraftItemLink?
18:38.52Saint-Nappearantly "it's just not done"
18:39.55NimbleRabitwoo
18:39.57NimbleRabitWAU owns
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18:41.08Kaeltenhow do I see how much harddrive space is left on linux?
18:41.12durcyndf
18:41.33durcyndf -h if you want it human-readable
18:41.49pdpibeat me to remarking about -h, Durcyn :)
18:42.03Kaeltenhehe
18:42.17Kaeltenwell the 16GB of files on the server doesn't compare to the space available still so thats good
18:42.41NimbleRabitlol prat is screwing up so much for me
18:42.44packetlssanyone made an addon to disable the "ding" on the soulwell yet? :)
18:42.46NimbleRabitanyone else having problems or did I mess it up?
18:42.59durcynpdpi: Real Sysadmins read things in 512-byte blocks anyway
18:43.30durcynpacketlss: i just started kicking people from raids that do it
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18:44.18pdpimeh, real programmers read it hexadecimal and number of bytes
18:44.46alextpacketlss: havent had a chance to make a soulwell yet beyond just seeing the animation...assuming every time someone takes one, the UI makes some sort of ding?
18:44.51alextis that for everyone in the raid?
18:44.56pdpiin fact, never mind. Real programmers don't give a damn about whether the processor is binary or decimal, and what word size it is
18:45.32frank83xI thought real programmers created software
18:45.32Gnarfoz_what replaces EnhTooltip+Informant from the auctioneer suite (enchantrix is gone anyway)?
18:45.37NeoTronI had issues with FPS in the new patch
18:45.48NeoTronnot sure if it was some addon that caused the issue
18:45.54alextGnarfoz: for some reason enchantrix is still in the auctioneer packages
18:46.03NeoTronalext: every time someone attempts to take one
18:46.04durcynalext: every time someone clicks, even if they don't have it, they do an animation and make a clicking noise that people in range can hear
18:46.05alextthe 4.0.2 gamma release includes enchantrix
18:46.09NeoTronso even if you don't pick one up it dings
18:46.15alextman thats annoying
18:46.18Fisker-damnit
18:46.19ravagernlgnarfoz: mendeleev, sellfish from tuller
18:46.23alexti could tolerate the click for the warlock knowing who took a stone
18:46.27NeoTronsomeone mentioned it in the raid
18:46.29durcynsome 13 year old paladin always ends up spamming it
18:46.31Fisker-i've been waiting all evening for Wowinterface.com to revert back to the old layout
18:46.33alextbut an area of effect ding would be annoying
18:46.34NeoTronand man did the dinging start
18:46.38Fisker-and you can press a link to go to the old layout
18:46.40Fisker-/facepalm
18:47.04Saint-Nfor == so
18:48.54Gnarfoz_alext: it's just an empty dir
18:48.54alextahhh ok
18:48.54kergothwhy's enchantrix gone?
18:48.54Gnarfoz_dunno
18:48.54alexti remember them saying enchantrix was dead
18:48.54kergothhuh
18:48.55Gnarfoz_they didn't update it since before 2.0
18:48.55alextbut i saw the directory (didnt investigate) so blah
18:48.55Saint-Nfizzlegigs predictor works better
18:48.55Gnarfoz_GFW_DisenchantPredictor works
18:48.55Gnarfoz_dunno why Enchantrix doesn't
18:48.55Saint-Nwigs
18:48.55kergothenchantrix has features the gfw one doesnt
18:48.55durcynfizzwidget
18:48.55abyssichateWho could I bother for The Lurker Below Transcriptors? I've got two of them
18:48.55Saint-Nlike what?
18:48.55alextthey said enchantrix got too bloated or the code was all over the place
18:48.56kergothenchantrix shows the disenchant value by summing up the price of what you'll likely de into from auctioneer prices
18:48.56alextso they stopped developing it
18:48.56kergothso you have a ballpark figure to compare against the direct ah value of hte item
18:48.56Fisker-Enchantrix can determine the average value of items based on disenchanting
18:49.03Saint-Nwowecon does that for me ;P
18:49.03kergothand you can search the ah and dump a list of likely items to buy to de
18:49.03Gnarfoz_alext: before that makes any sense, they should stop developing Auctioneer xD
18:49.04kergothwowecon's bloat is astounding
18:49.05Saint-Nand its not as craptastically bloated like aucitoneer ;P
18:49.06Fisker-thus also pick up on good bids/buyouts concerning disenchanting
18:49.12alextGnarfoz:  /agree
18:49.15kergothwowecon is much larger than auctioneer last time i tried it
18:49.18kergothby a substantial margin
18:49.23Fisker-but does GFW_DisenchantPredictor not bug @ "Disenchanting [Item]" output btw?
18:49.23Gnarfoz_I like Auctioneer, still...
18:49.27Saint-Ncompared to enchantrix+ehntooltip+autioneer+bottomfeed+beancounter
18:49.33Cryectauctioneer is bloated...
18:49.34Saint-Nwowecon is tiny ;)
18:49.37Fisker-Mine keeps saying "Disenchanting [The first item i disenchanted that session]"
18:49.40Cryectyeah
18:49.42kergothlast time i tried it wowecon was 15 megs.
18:49.47kergoththats bigger than all of those combined
18:49.52Gnarfoz_somehow my tooltips don't work expand to contain what Auctioneer+Informant try to add to them
18:49.53Cryectauctioneer is way over 15 megs
18:50.00Saint-Ndepends on how retarded you are kerg ;)
18:50.01Fisker-bottomscanner takes a lot too
18:50.02Cryector least last time I was using it
18:50.03kergothmine isn't, and i scan daily
18:50.07Saint-Ni only load the ones for my server
18:50.12Fisker-and is virtually useless
18:50.13kenlyricyeah, mine is smaller than lootlink.
18:50.14NimbleRabitisn't kaelten coming out with a replacement?
18:50.14kergothSaint-N, so did i.
18:50.18Saint-Nlies!
18:50.21Fisker-imo
18:50.23Gnarfoz_NimbleRabit: since a year ago, he is
18:50.23Saint-Nand propoganda
18:50.26Kaeltenhrm?
18:50.28Gnarfoz_or isn't, you pick :P
18:50.32kergothFisker-, yea, i never saw a need for it, sitting idle at the ah isnt my idea of fun
18:50.36NimbleRabitGnarfoz: I guess that means isn't =P
18:50.44Saint-Nkael says he's doing lots of things
18:50.56Saint-Nfor the most part since he pays for the server we dont care what he actually does ;P
18:51.00kergothhehe
18:51.01Gnarfoz_;)
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18:51.45NimbleRabitlol
18:51.58Seerah_KCI2 is in branches, but it's still not quite finished and there is no support fo rit
18:52.01Seerah_*for it
18:52.02NimbleRabitxtensionxtooltip2
18:52.05NimbleRabitwtf is creating this channel
18:52.12Saint-Nwhy once kael told me he was gonna build this awesome treefort in his backyard and showed me all the designs and everything, went to the store got tools and wood, stopped and got some beer.......and thats about the point the idea stopped ;P
18:52.13Seerah_but I'm patient ;)
18:52.26Seerah_haha
18:52.29Cryectwhat if kael said something about wowaceporn
18:52.30Saint-Ntreefort to kael == patio chairs and beer ;P
18:52.34Cryecthaha
18:52.36Xuerianomg. Addon porn
18:52.37Xuerianwin
18:52.42Saint-Ncyrect
18:52.45Saint-Nwow7 it ;P
18:52.57Saint-Nwe could watch porn movies in game!
18:53.01NimbleRabitKaelten: is combine supposed to be green?
18:53.09Saint-Nwithout resorting to dual monitors or windowed mode ;P
18:53.29NimbleRabitwindowed mode ftw
18:53.44Seerah_my computer detests windowed mode :P
18:53.57Seerah_was all fine and dandy with it until TBC, that is
18:54.03NeoTronare there any fights in SSC/TK where fearward is useful?
18:54.07NeoTronor is it really onlt nightbane?
18:54.11Kaelten~lart Saint-N
18:54.12purleats Saint-N's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
18:54.12NimbleRabitlol my errors just reached 30
18:54.13NimbleRabitT_T
18:55.12Seerah_what are you doing, nimble?
18:55.19NimbleRabitprat doesn't like me
18:55.24Kaelten~lart Saint-N
18:55.24purlhooks into a hydrant and hoses Saint-N down
18:56.11KaeltenI have a lot going on, doesn't mean I don't get stuff done
18:56.32TheKarn"<Saint-N> for the most part since he pays for the server we dont care what he actually does ;P" - QFT
18:56.54KaeltenI just got divorced, married, had a birthday, got married, went on a honeymoon, moved cross country, started a new job, moved into a new place it was a busy month
18:57.04Kaeltener one too many marrieds in there
18:57.15TheKarnpolygomy > you
18:57.17Seerah_that's what I was thinking ;)
18:57.27Kaeltenlol
18:57.28Fisker-isn't it called bigami?
18:57.35cotangentis there an ace mod that allows you to create notes on your friends list like CT used to do?
18:57.44Seerah_AuldLangSyne
18:57.44MikkFisker-: I call it more sex than i can handle
18:57.45Kaeltenhrm so if you don't care what I actually do, I guess I can just turn the server off and go home
18:57.47Kaydeethreestill does, you mean?
18:57.48Kaelten:P
18:57.57TheKarnPolygami / Bigami ... no difference
18:58.02cotangentthanks Seerah
18:58.28Seerah_well, we do care, but you can do whatever you please :P
18:58.33Fisker-anyways, "You'll get over it", "Grats on your new life", "Happy birthday", "Grats on your new life again", "ooh ooh moar", "nice place on the country?", "You'll be a productive employee", "Tired of the country already?"
18:58.36Kaeltenlol
18:58.47MikkKaelten: don't listen to the dweebs. i can lart them for you if you'll lend a @  :-)
18:58.57Kaeltenlol
18:59.10Fisker-i'll kick myself too, for chanops of course
18:59.10TheKarn~lart Kaelten
18:59.10purlblames Kaelten for all the evil in the world
18:59.42Kaeltenhrm so in javascript thats an exact match n
19:00.06Mikktype & value match
19:00.23Mikkwhich would imply that thekarn and dweeb are derived from the same base class
19:01.00Mikk~espresso
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19:01.14Seerah_same difference :P
19:01.15NimbleRabitcofee is meh
19:01.18NimbleRabitI don't particularly like it
19:01.19Kaeltenneed more espresso
19:01.23Fisker-When "Cartographer_QuestObjectives" is taking up a lot of memory i can safely assume this is the whole cartographer package right?
19:01.25kergothi dont like regular coffee, its too .. thin
19:01.47Mikkkergoth: there's some nice ones, but generally it's too thin yeah
19:01.48XuerianIt isn't coffee without five french vanilla creamers.
19:01.49Kaeltenkergoth: turkish?
19:01.54Mikkepsecially in like the UK ...
19:02.12Mikkwhere "coffee" usually == "you can see the bottom of the cup..."
19:02.16Xueriano.0
19:02.18Xuerianwtf.
19:02.18Mikkwhich is RONG
19:02.22kergothew
19:02.27Kaeltenalso a good french press can make a better coffee
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19:02.33Kaeltenits a thicker
19:02.33XuerianCoffee should be like warlocks
19:02.34Xuerianer no
19:02.36XuerianShadow priests
19:02.38XuerianFacemelting.
19:02.48MikkI knew there was a reason I liked you Xuerian
19:02.49Seerah_haha
19:02.57Kaeltentake some italian roast and brew it n a french press you'll have some thicker coffee
19:03.04Xuerian>:)
19:03.11MikkAnd with that, I'm off to my espresso machine. Time for a double.
19:03.14Kaeltenor don't filter the grounds.
19:03.16Kaelteneither way
19:03.19kenlyricXuerian: I have a theory that coffee is designed merely to be a carrier of other flavors.
19:04.13Xueriankenlyric: Thus my French Vanilla comment
19:04.13XuerianBut
19:04.13Antiarc|WorkI like my warlocks like I like my coffee
19:04.13Antiarc|WorkLiquified.
19:04.14XuerianThe coffee has to have enough heft behind it
19:04.14kenlyricit's a base, from which actual drinkable things can be made.
19:04.14Seerah_Antiarc: lol
19:04.14Antiarc|WorkKaelten: kudos for keeping the site up during this patch
19:04.17Antiarc|WorkIt's been really smooth
19:04.22NimbleRabitwhat lib do I download to make quartz show flight times
19:04.27kenlyrichmmmm, orc troll tauren or blood elf?
19:04.32Seerah_there have been a few bog down points this morning, but it's running well now
19:04.38Xueriankenlyric: What class?
19:04.56Seerah_NimbleRabit: you need either InFlight or another flight timer mod (they're not libs)
19:05.00Kaeltenya logrotate stalled on the squid log
19:05.03NimbleRabitoh
19:05.03Seerah_check the forum thread
19:05.04NimbleRabitok
19:05.05Kaeltenwhich caused squid to overload
19:05.07kenlyrichunter maybe... or warlock... something I don't have to work too hard at to solo.
19:05.10Kaeltennow the servers have been restarted
19:05.12Kaeltenits better
19:05.19Fisker-O_o
19:05.29Fisker-disabling questobjectives addon freed up a lot of memory
19:05.35Antiarc|WorkYeah
19:05.40Kirkburn|afkSo, what's this thing about strsplit? How far back should I look to find out about this error? :)
19:05.46kenlyricgonna roll me a horde alt, get it however far I get it before  my account expires, and push it out the window.
19:05.50Seerah_isn't it fun to play with performancefu now? ;)
19:05.50Antiarc|WorkCart Quests/QuestObjectives were sucking a lot of memory for me
19:06.02Fisker-indeed
19:06.19Kaeltendo we have a good profiling addon yet?
19:06.23Fisker-i'm around 30MB at startup now
19:06.30kergothi took the cart qo db from the forum and put it in a seperate addon, that addon just injects it as the defaults table of cart qo..
19:06.31XuerianKaelten: Protractor ?
19:06.32Antiarc|WorkPerformanceFu isn't bad at all
19:06.32Fisker-instead of like 45-50MB
19:06.36kergoththat cart qo db addon is 9 megs by itself
19:06.37kergothhehe
19:06.41kergothjust horde
19:06.46XuerianKaelten: Aside from LuaProfiler
19:09.09*** join/#wowace chuckg (i=chuckg@66-238-4-197.starstream.net)
19:09.16NimbleRabityeah I deleted those quest addons from cart
19:09.38Mikki kept the questgivers one
19:09.40Mikkwasn't too baf
19:09.43Mikkd
19:09.49SkorcherXhow do i fix my bags?
19:09.50SkorcherXhttp://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot052307120551jc0.jpg
19:09.55SkorcherXrunning skinner
19:09.59kergothcart qo is really helpful imo, itd just be nice to split the data by zone or something
19:10.01SkorcherXcant find the optoin to unskin the bags
19:10.05SkorcherXoption**
19:10.10Kirkburn|afkI think I have it, but I've neevr seen it do anything (Cart_Quests)
19:10.12kergothzone specific lod quest data addons would be nice
19:10.21NimbleRabitkergoth: I actually don't find it useful at all lol
19:10.25kergothquestobjectives shows you where you need to go to find the drops or kill the mobs or whatever else for your quests.
19:10.32kergothi can plot the most efficient route through a zone based on it
19:10.39kergothsaved a lot of time when i was leveling alts
19:10.40Seerah_that picture's loading real slow, I think you have a bunch of people trying to help you, SkorcherX :P
19:10.52SkorcherXhaha its pretty big as well...
19:11.10SkorcherX1680x1050
19:11.22Seerah_those are default bags?
19:11.29SkorcherXas of right now...
19:11.48Seerah_and a reload doesn't help hmm?
19:11.50kenlyrici havea 26 orc hunter, but she's kinda ugly, a 26 undead lock and she's of course awesome (but all those dots are a lot of work) and I've never played through the BE starting area... but they have such crappy racials for hunters.
19:11.54SkorcherXnot bag addons either... if i disable skinner it fixes them.. but theni lose my sweet lower bar
19:12.00NimbleRabitSkorcherX: gimme gold =P
19:12.05Seerah_I don't remember if there is an option in the skinner menu. have you checked?
19:12.10SkorcherXwhy would i give you gold?
19:12.12Antiarc|WorkSkorcherX: Install eePanels and use that to replace the lower bar.
19:12.22SkorcherXhmmmmm
19:12.27Fisker-TecnoBrat
19:12.34Antiarc|Workskinner is also a hell of a memory hog
19:12.39Fisker-does sanctified crusader do +3 crit to everything or only melee?
19:12.39Antiarc|WorkOr was last time I looked
19:12.45Seerah_unless you're really hooked on the way it looks
19:12.48SkorcherXso eepanels eh?
19:12.49Fisker-ont here though
19:12.58Fisker-atleast not according to performanceFu
19:13.00Seerah_if all you really want is a box on your screen
19:13.00Antiarc|WorkYeah, it lets you just create boxes, optionally with gradients
19:13.01SkorcherXwell i just really liekt he lower bar... its very sleek
19:13.05Seerah_you can use anything else
19:13.26Seerah_gradients, textures, different border options, can drag to move/resize now.... etc
19:13.47SkorcherXalright i will have to mess with it... thanks.
19:14.02Seerah_cause I see you're not even using it to skin your mods
19:14.25Gnarfoz_does mendeleev also do sell prices?
19:14.29LeialynWho do I have to flame to have the new "raid only potions" added to autobar/PT3 ? :P
19:14.35Gnarfoz_or do I have to use colalight for that? :)
19:14.38kergothGnarfoz_, no, but there are good addons that do
19:14.40kergothsellfish or colalight
19:14.43Seerah_Gnarfoz_: get sellfish
19:14.50Seerah_ColaLight's been discontinued
19:14.54Gnarfoz_sounds fishy oO
19:14.55Gnarfoz_:P
19:15.01kergothsellfish is nice
19:15.06kergothi like tek's vendorbait with it
19:15.15Gnarfoz_all these obscure addon names xD
19:15.19Gnarfoz_which does what? :)
19:15.25ravagernlsellfish also has support for tekkub's wonderfull vendorbait
19:15.27kergothvendorbait highlights the quest reward thats worth the most
19:15.35Gnarfoz_ah.
19:15.36kergothravagernl, its the other way around, technically :)
19:15.39kergothafaik anyway
19:15.41kergothnot that it matters
19:15.44kergothbut they both kick ass
19:15.55ravagernlusing most of tek's addons
19:16.03Fisker-aloft takes a lot too
19:16.04Antiarc|WorkSkorcherX: http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041007202926zc5.jpg
19:16.06Gnarfoz_and sellfish is just like Informant (price part), ColaLight
19:16.15kergothyea
19:16.19Antiarc|WorkThe boxes in the lower left/right are eePanels, but you can make 'em any size/coloring you want
19:16.24Gnarfoz_but not on this svn :<
19:16.26Gnarfoz_*cry* :D
19:16.31XuerianAntiarc|Work: Damn o.0
19:16.32Gnarfoz_wowi?
19:16.40kergothGnarfoz_, sellfish is tuller's, you can get it from his svn, or wowi
19:17.28Gnarfoz_what's there to update on addons like colalight and sellfish though?
19:17.42Gnarfoz_(if 'still developed' is the only difference ^^)
19:17.46kergoth<PROTECTED>
19:17.47CIA-2303clovenhoof * r36641 10RootsBidder/ (14 files in 5 dirs):
19:17.47CIA-23RootsBidder: Initial commit
19:17.47CIA-23- Facilitates Bidding for the Dagon Roots Guild.
19:17.47CIA-23- Code needs major cleanup
19:17.48kergothprobably nothing
19:17.59Josh_Borkeupdated item sell values
19:18.04kergothother than more presupplied .. yeah, that
19:18.05kergothhehe
19:18.29Seerah_SkorcherX: here's some more eePanels inspiration http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Seerah/Elemaphant1.jpg
19:18.34*** join/#wowace chuckg (i=chuckg@66-238-4-197.starstream.net)
19:18.37Gnarfoz_boils down to the same then for me, I guess... I will probably not update mods not on the ace svn so often :D
19:18.41Fisker-anyone know a flying/landmount macro?
19:18.53Fisker-i'm told that autodismounting break previous macros
19:18.53XuerianSeerah_'s boosterseat ftw
19:18.55kergothi use the GoGoMount addon for that, though its probably more than i need
19:18.58Seerah_haha, yeah
19:18.59Gnarfoz_ah
19:19.09Seerah_still haven't come across that, X :P
19:19.10Antiarc|WorkSeerah_: 5.7k HP at 70? o.0
19:19.14Xuerianhehe.
19:19.17Antiarc|WorkWTB you as an opponent in the arena. >_>
19:19.19Gnarfoz_which of the new features are to be disabled by /script / /run commands but not through the UI?
19:19.26Gnarfoz_like auto-dismounting on ground mounts
19:19.29Seerah_I think that's my dps gear
19:20.10Sedaiany rogues here?
19:20.12Fisker-i'm running a pretty nice memory usage right now
19:20.16Antiarc|Work*raises hand*
19:20.21Seerah_normally I have just over 6k, and in my sta gear I get close to 8k
19:20.25kergothmy main's a rogue
19:20.45Fisker-you get "Item recieved: " when trading now :D
19:20.51Seerah_but my gear's getting replaces still ;)
19:21.03kergothFisker-, nice
19:21.10*** join/#wowace Cartas (n=Cartas@host86-133-157-61.range86-133.btcentralplus.com)
19:21.13FrostByghteI have something that is issuing a /who now everytime I zone....ARRRG
19:21.47Fisker-not with money though
19:21.49Fisker-that's a shame
19:22.01Fisker-would make it a lot easier to figure when you are scammed :P
19:22.04HjalteIs anyone else experiencing that Deucecommander isn't working?
19:22.14KarlThePaganalso great for tracking item re-delegation
19:22.24KarlThePaganshards etc
19:22.43NimbleRabitgod
19:22.49NimbleRabithow do I find what posts I have made on the forums
19:23.02MikkFrostByghte: SpamSentry?
19:23.03NimbleRabitI hate to ask something so simple but I can't figure it out for the life of me
19:23.39FrostByghteMikk: I'm not sure I haven't attempted to trouble shoot yet...it's not to the point of annoying me completely, but yes I have spamsentry loaded
19:24.06NimbleRabitnvm I figured it out =/
19:24.44Fisker-i like how i just spammed imbued vial without sobbing for the costs
19:24.51FrostByghtehey Mikk, are you the guy that coded MikkScrollingBattleText?
19:24.58Fisker-used over 100g the last time i restocked elixirs
19:24.59Mikk~mikk
19:25.19purlhmm... mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied.
19:25.19Fisker-on vials alone
19:25.19FrostByghtej/k
19:25.27Fisker-reminds me i got like 40 free bankslots with the new elixir stacking ;D
19:25.39kergothSaint-N, after auctioneer loads here, my overall ui ram usage is 59 megs.  here at login with wowecon, it's 75.  wowecon is 44 megs by itself
19:25.44FrostByghteya I asked him that question about a month ago...I figured the time was ripe for more silliness...perhaps not :)
19:25.48kergothonly chose alliance and horde on this server
19:25.49kergothheh
19:26.07StephmwMikk: how about a replacement cursor that give people the finger?
19:26.21Stephmw*gives
19:26.31Seerah_MSBT Mik only has one k ;) (Mikord)
19:26.31Fisker-~mikord
19:27.12Fisker-btw
19:27.17Fisker-rotate minimap + square minimaps = :D
19:27.30*** join/#wowace xlvii (n=Tim@CPE-144-136-157-109.qld.bigpond.net.au)
19:27.41Seerah_it's a little easier on the eyes in a square map than round
19:27.47kenlyricheh, there's really no choice but orc for a solo hunter.
19:27.58Fisker-qi don't like it either way
19:28.03Gnarfoz_hm
19:28.18Gnarfoz_there is ItemPrice-1.0 and ItemPriceTooltip
19:28.21*** join/#wowace revv_ (n=Miranda@205.174.172.157)
19:28.45NeeblerI love how this patch lowered my UI memory consumption from 28mb to 24
19:28.51Gnarfoz_wonder how often those get updated
19:29.18Fisker-mine was lowered from 130MB to 40MB!
19:29.47TheKarncan people do me a favour? go to churchsurvey.co.uk and click on a few links .:P
19:30.10MikkFisker-: 130?!
19:30.17Xuerian...
19:30.21XuerianI've been running at 24mb
19:30.24Xueriannow 20mb 0_o
19:30.32Fisker-done TheKarn
19:30.36TheKarnhehe ty
19:30.53Fisker-yeah Mikk i had auctioneer scanning while inviting a ~60 players to a raid
19:31.26Ordogwhy do frames flicker transparent/solid when i hold ctrl+alt ?
19:31.27Mikkauctioneer is teh evil =P
19:31.41Ordogsome addon feature?
19:31.45Antiarc|Workhttp://inorpo-b.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/88/889307221c4302d6915a4a91fd04319331689f43.jpg
19:32.08Gnarfozwoot
19:32.09Lyfeauctioneer is evil?
19:32.17GnarfozI hate hitting the wrong button @ Gnarfoz_ :p
19:32.19kergoth<3 auctioneer
19:32.20Seerah_do you have KC_Mobility Ordog?
19:32.23Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/amidoinitrite.jpg <-
19:32.39OrdogSeerah_ ya :)
19:32.40Gnarfozauctioneer is, still, superior in (actually working) features to other addons of it's kind
19:32.45Fisker-yeah
19:32.50Fisker-unfortunately :(
19:32.56Seerah_that's why.  You hold control-alt to move the frame you're hovering over
19:33.11Ordoghm why is it flickering then?
19:33.18Seerah_<PROTECTED>
19:33.25Antiarc|WorkI love Auctioneer's features, but I have to do a UI reload each time I leave the AH
19:33.26Seerah_mine does it too, though
19:33.29Antiarc|WorkBecause otherwise it just slaughters me.
19:33.31FrostByghteI love auctioneer...sad thing is without it the WoW AH is really useless
19:33.38GnarfozAntiarc|Work: 512mb ram? oO
19:33.49Fisker-got 4GB ram
19:33.49Antiarc|Work2GB, but it jacks up my UI RAM usage by over 100mb
19:33.58Gnarfoz... so what, really? :D
19:34.00Fisker-when i sometime find a 64-bit xp with corporate
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19:34.49Gnarfozhrm, back to current issues
19:34.51FrostByghteif you want to check out some real AH action, try out Eve Online...market manipulation takes on a whole new life there
19:35.11Gnarfozmy Tattle_LFM just doens't work today o_O worked fine last evening on 2.0, I just updated it to use 2.1's code
19:35.11Fisker-yeah
19:35.12FrostByghtetotally different game, but the buy/sell is done better
19:35.15Fisker-like developers cheating
19:35.17Fisker-*cough*
19:35.39FrostByghteI think I heard about that, was a big issue over on coldfront about it
19:35.48FrostByghteI don't play enough to stay in the loop though
19:36.28Fisker-btw something funny earlier
19:36.51Fisker-a friend of mine was on the server doing some potions
19:36.57Fisker-and he got a discovery
19:37.03Fisker-then he couldn't fin the new flask
19:37.13Fisker-and he read the chat again and saw it was someone next to him :D
19:37.15Fisker-boy was he pissed :P
19:37.30break19heh
19:38.12CIA-2303sorren * r36642 10SorrenTimers/abilities-shaman.lua:
19:38.12CIA-23SorrenTimers:
19:38.13CIA-23- Searing Totem only lasts 35 seconds
19:39.35GnarfozFisker-: yeah, I find it funny they made it broadcast that. what is the range on that?
19:39.51Fisker-i dunno
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19:40.26SkorcherXbe back in a bit... my bags are still broken :(
19:40.33*** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net)
19:41.02deltronouch
19:41.58Fisker-btw
19:42.04Fisker-is portraits for other skipping?
19:42.29CIA-2303fenlis * r36643 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFuLocale-koKR.lua:
19:42.29CIA-23FuBar_HonorFu :
19:42.29CIA-23<PROTECTED>
19:42.30GnarfozI still hope Gello finishes ItemRack 2.0 some day
19:42.43Antiarc|WorkI think I'm going to make a macro that mimics the flask discoveries
19:42.53Antiarc|WorkIn the chat log
19:42.54Antiarc|WorkThen go hang out by alch trainers and just hit it occassionally
19:43.18kergothhas talented_Data been updated for the 2.1 talent trees yet?
19:43.19Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_052307_214132.jpg <-1 evil substituted for another
19:43.42Gnarfozkergoth: saw a commit like that earlier
19:43.59Neeblercockpit UI's are so hideous
19:44.22kergothhrm.. updated it but its still showing "improved sap"
19:44.47CIA-2303fenlis * r36644 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/ (FuBar_OutfitterFu.toc OutfitterFuLocale-koKR.lua):
19:44.47CIA-23FuBar_OutfitterFu :
19:44.47CIA-23<PROTECTED>
19:45.26Neeblerfisker 3667 gold? what happened to the 408979374906 gold you had
19:45.47Fisker-i got (16) 3667 gold
19:45.47Fisker-;D
19:45.58Fisker-with 15 it looks the same colour
19:46.09Fisker-and it's close enough to think it's part of the money display
19:46.43NimbleRabitkergoth: yeah I still see the old talents too
19:47.31sbuuhoh
19:47.37sburaid/guild window gets tainted
19:47.43sbucant open/move groups in combat anymore
19:48.05CIA-2303saroz * r36645 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Create the frames just a bit sooner.
19:48.58NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: is there a way to make a "food/water" bag in sanitybgas
19:49.08Sarozyea sbu
19:49.14Antiarc|WorkNimble: Try tooltip:conjured
19:49.23Antiarc|WorkOr well
19:49.48NimbleRabitthat won't work
19:49.50NimbleRabitI don't think?
19:49.54NimbleRabitI buy food
19:51.27packetlsswasn't there another "battle chat" addon besides BattleChat?
19:51.29NimbleRabitI tried pt:Consumable.Food like in the tooltip, but it seems like pt stuff isn't actually in yet.  Either that or I'm doing it wrong
19:51.53Gnarfozhrm
19:52.13Gnarfozwasn't there an addon that enabled disabled Libs by the OptionalDeps?
19:52.47kergothGnarfoz, ACP can do that, enable the libs when you enable the addon and such
19:52.56Gnarfozhm
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19:53.05Gnarfozyeah, but ace itself or wow itself also seem to do it
19:53.12[Ammo]acelib does it
19:53.16GnarfozI just logged in and most of the necessary stuff got enabled
19:53.24Gnarfozbut not all, fubarplugin e.g. didn't
19:53.49Gnarfozdoes that mean broken OptionalDeps on all my fubar plugins? ^^
19:54.05[Ammo]could be
19:54.09sylvanaaroptdeps arent used anymore
19:54.19Gnarfozby acelib?
19:54.21sylvanaarright
19:54.30toddbefore estimatedheals came with pitbull, it was mentioned that drdamage increases the accuracy; is this still true?
19:54.38sylvanaarthey were never needed to begin with
19:54.38[Ammo]yes
19:54.44NimbleRabittodd: yes
19:54.45Gnarfozwhat do they do, then?
19:54.47toddthanks
19:55.08NimbleRabittodd: it increases accuracy to the point that it's pretty much useless without them
19:55.15sylvanaarnow they are for true optional deps
19:55.17Gnarfozor rather: how does it work, then, if not by that data? (and also, why didn't fubarplugin-2.0 get enabled when I clearly had Fubar Plugins enabled)
19:55.40Gnarfozjust trying to figure out what does what here, as it seems I'm not up to date anymore :D
19:55.45toddit seems to be pretty accurate right now, although that's on my level 27 priest without talents for healing or healing gear :P
19:56.00sylvanaarfubarplugin does get enabled, are you sure its not out of date
19:56.04NimbleRabittodd: ahh.  For me on my 26 druid it practically didn't even work for regrowth before I got dr.dmg
19:56.09Antiarc|WorkNimbleRabit: pt stuff is in the branch, if you want to use it
19:56.29Gnarfozsylvanaar: as sure as running WAU gets me
19:56.29NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: You'll have to tell me what that even means T_T
19:56.29toddit actually doesn't show anything for flash heal for me
19:56.35Antiarc|WorkOther than that, you can do...let's see
19:56.45Gnarfozdo I perhaps have to login twice, in case something got enabled the first time around that needs fubarplugin-2.0?
19:56.49sylvanaarno
19:56.51Antiarc|Worktoolip:seated would do it
19:56.52Gnarfozhm
19:57.04Antiarc|Worktooltip even
19:57.04NimbleRabittodd: interesting.  It worked fine for Healing Touch for me but didn't work for regrowth
19:57.06GnarfozI'll just try again without touching anything ;)
19:57.09NimbleRabitwtf are these tooltip things
19:57.10NimbleRabitso odd
19:57.14NimbleRabitthanks though, I'll try that
19:57.22Antiarc|Worktooltip:(whatever) just scans the tooltip for whatever you specify
19:57.33sylvanaaroh
19:57.41Antiarc|WorkSo anything that has "seated" in the tooltip will match, such as "Must remain seated"
19:57.46NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: that is a VERY cool filter option
19:57.54sylvanaaryour fubar plugins wont load because they have RequiredDeps on FuBar
19:58.04Gnarfozah ok
19:58.11sbuSaroz: sRaidFrame problem or some other addon (tainting)? :)
19:58.20Gnarfozsylvanaar: huh? oO fubar loads fine?
19:58.30sylvanaarthen fubarplugin should too
19:58.33Gnarfozactually, on the second login without touching anything in between
19:58.35NimbleRabithas anyone else noticed that when you leave the wizard sanctuum in SW you don't load/lag anymore
19:58.41Gnarfozthey work, but parserlib is missing
19:58.44sylvanaarright
19:58.59Gnarfozdoing it again oO
19:59.00sylvanaarparserlib isnt an acelibrary lib
19:59.20Gnarfozah!
19:59.23Gnarfozindeed it isn't
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19:59.36frank83xI hate patch days
19:59.40frank83xthank you
19:59.40Gnarfozcould that have lead to the behaviour described above, though?
19:59.41frank83xthat is all
20:00.00sylvanaarYes
20:00.34Gnarfoz(got Fubar_DPS that needs ParserLib)
20:00.34sylvanaarabove what idk
20:00.34sylvanaarcause i just logged in
20:00.34NimbleRabitfrank83x: me too.  Playing without Prat_PlayerNames is giving me a headache (literally)
20:00.34Gnarfoznah
20:00.36sylvanaarwhy do you have playernames off?
20:00.39NimbleRabiterrors
20:00.40NimbleRabitso many
20:00.44NimbleRabitmost of my modules are broken
20:00.44Gnarfozyou joined just at the right moment sylvanaar, nothing previous to you joining
20:00.49frank83xI got some libs that arent updated yet, im too lazy to find alternatives for the addons that depend on them
20:00.49deltronI always have player names off heh
20:00.53NimbleRabitlike 20 prat errors in bugsack right now
20:00.56frank83xand IceHUD
20:00.58nevcairielckknight: bug in Cartographer, when i am in an instance and open the map, the worldmap from the zone overlaps the instance map.
20:00.59sylvanaarnah
20:01.06sylvanaarthere were 0 prat errors yesterady
20:01.16NimbleRabithmm, then I borked something
20:01.20NimbleRabitalthough I don't know what
20:01.27sylvanaarpastey errors
20:01.39NimbleRabitok
20:02.34CIA-2303clovenhoof * r36646 10RootsBidder/ (. RootsBidder.lua teststring.xml):
20:02.34CIA-23RootsBidder:
20:02.35CIA-23- Removed extra files
20:02.40sylvanaarI made a fix in playernames related to the playerlink - try reverting back one revision
20:03.00frank83xI think I'll just not play for a couple of days till things stabilize
20:03.02frank83xinstead of getting frustrated with stuff not working and errors and what not
20:03.36kenlyricor uh... disable mods?
20:03.46NimbleRabitI hope I didn't do something really dumb to break this
20:03.51NimbleRabithttp://pastey.net/38990
20:03.53NimbleRabittheres a few of them
20:04.12frank83xim used to playing with them
20:04.45frank83xthe biggest blocker is arkinventory. I can only imagine the mess my bags must be like if I disable it
20:04.59durcynthey'll be like... bags.
20:05.04frank83xunsorted
20:05.11frank83xeverything everywhere
20:05.12NimbleRabitthat's using r36560
20:05.25deltronfrank83x: Mr. Plow works great ;)
20:05.53Gnarfozhrm
20:05.56CIA-2303mikk * r36647 10ReadyCheckAnnouncer/ReadyCheckAnnouncer.toc: ReadyCheckAnnouncer: 2.1 compat
20:06.03deltronwow there's a ton new loot on wowhead
20:06.17Gnarfoz~seen tekkub
20:07.00purltekkub is currently on #wowace (4h 10m 32s) #wowwiki (4h 10m 32s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 1h 30m 31s, last said: 'new ones aren't in it yet, duh:P'.
20:07.01Tekkub<PROTECTED>
20:07.01Gnarfoz!
20:07.01sylvanaarNimbleRabit wierd
20:07.06sylvanaarNimbleRabit there should be a line at the top of every module that has local CLR, etc
20:07.10NimbleRabitI have 3 prat_* folders, I'm not sure if I used to have those
20:07.19GnarfozTekkub: do you know if VendorBait works with ItemPriceTooltip? (it says it defines the necessary API_GetSellValue ... thingy)
20:07.24Mikkpurl, ReadyCheckAnnouncer is a minimalistic WoW addon that echoes readycheck results (who's afk, who's not ready) to raid/party chat. It also installs a small timer showing the running time of the check, and an "/rc" alias.
20:07.35purlokay, Mikk
20:08.05Tekkubit should then... it might need an optdep just to ensure the price addon's loaded
20:08.07NimbleRabitsylvanaar: well I tried deleting all my prat folders and regetting them with WAU
20:08.23Kirkburn|afkAnyone got an idea about http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5848.msg102551#msg102551
20:08.30GnarfozTekkub: hm, tooltip prices are shown fine, yet I see no visual difference
20:08.34Kirkburn|afkMy hosuemate has lost all text from his Pitbull, and we can't fix it
20:08.51Tekkubuhm, ItemPriceTooltip uses ItemPrice-1.0
20:08.57Kirkburn|afkTried a full reinstall of Ace addons, cleaned out his SVs
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20:09.05TekkubVB has an optdep to ItemPrice-1.0
20:09.16MikkKirkburn|afk: Disable everything except pitbull? =P
20:09.32MikkStandard troubleshooting 101
20:09.36Kirkburn|afklol
20:09.42NimbleRabitanyone else love pitbulls new buff highlighting thing? (or aura highlighting maybe, the thing that highlights the frame on certain debuffs)
20:10.01Gnarfozactually, I think it's ugly :>
20:10.03*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ
20:10.11Gnarfozbut it's more obvious at the same time
20:10.13NimbleRabitI love it!
20:10.19deltronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32670 <-- whoa this is very interesting
20:10.28sylvanaarNimbleRabit type /dump GetPratUtils()
20:10.50NimbleRabitalot there, you want me to type itout?
20:10.56sylvanaarno
20:11.01deltronI had issues with PitBull and my target/target of target frames
20:11.19Kaeltendeltron: heh I wonder if its real
20:11.32NimbleRabitsylvanaar: btw I have more errors than I put there, it was taking a while and I wasn't sure if you wanted all of them.  If you want I can put up the rest
20:11.53deltronthott doesn't have that
20:12.19sylvanaarNimbleRabit delete the Prat_* folders and Prat then try again
20:12.22sylvanaarexit the game
20:12.29GnarfozTekkub: I don't know if the author did it right, care to take a peek? http://wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0.lua?order=name#L45
20:13.39Tekkubno he didn't, he needs to define a global not a library method
20:13.48Gnarfozhm, VB does: if not _G.GetSellValue then return end
20:13.54Gnarfozheh, yea, I see it now, too :)
20:14.01Gnarfoz~seen bam
20:15.43purlbam is currently on #debian, last said: 'doh'.
20:15.44Kirkburn|afkMikk, we went for diabling pitbull for now ;)
20:15.44Tekkubhe does set the global
20:15.44Tekkubnevermind
20:15.44Gnarfozhm
20:15.44Kirkburn|afkHis Outland map shows towns with a little house - is this a default part of the UI?
20:15.45sylvanaarNimbleRabit Just enable Ace2 + Prat at the login screen
20:15.45NimbleRabitthat would be changing 2 things at once
20:15.45NimbleRabit!
20:15.45sylvanaarNimbleRabit no, it doesnt change anything
20:15.51NimbleRabitkk loading
20:15.51NimbleRabittakes a while
20:16.17SarozIs anyone else having huge huge huge load times on login?
20:16.24NimbleRabitalways have
20:16.40Antiarc|WorkSaroz: You can enable cpu profiling in PerformanceFu and then see what's eating your CPU time
20:16.48SarozI can't even log in
20:16.54MikkServer fubar then
20:16.55sylvanaari have a horrible error
20:16.57Sarozjust fucking hangs then
20:17.09MikkTry making a toon on a different server?
20:17.17MikkTry disabling all addons also
20:17.23sylvanaarhttp://pastey.net/38998
20:17.47sylvanaarwith all addons disabled
20:17.49NimbleRabitsylvanaar: uhh
20:17.51NimbleRabitmy ace2 isn't there
20:17.55NimbleRabit....
20:17.58sylvanaaryes it is
20:18.03sylvanaarLib: Ace2
20:18.06NimbleRabitoh
20:18.36Mikksylvanaar: Busted macro in one of your actionbuttons?
20:18.58sylvanaarits in my account global macro-cache i guess
20:18.59GnarfozTekkub: d'oh
20:19.09NimbleRabitsylvanaar: no errors and no modules as well
20:19.14GnarfozVB only works when I'm actually turning in a quest?
20:19.14Snarrrrwhat's the event that enables showing dots? can't see ignite/fireball/pyro dots when i have "your periodic damage" (event) and hit source: player from filters enabled. the logic fails me :<
20:19.41sylvanaarNimbleRabit is AutoLoD there?
20:19.44Gnarfoz-.- was looking at a quest in my quest log that has rewards ;)
20:20.12GalkaSylvanaar:  http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6181.0
20:20.23NimbleRabitsylvanaar: you had me delete the folders
20:20.40sylvanaarNimbleRabit - oh didn't i say to get it via WAU
20:20.48sylvanaarNimbleRabit I meant to
20:21.03NimbleRabitI did get it via WAU before when I had 4 folders total
20:21.05SarozSeriously everyone in my guild is hanging on login, posts on tech forums
20:21.05Sarozffs
20:21.17SarozI hate patch day
20:21.21sylvanaarNimbleRabit yes
20:21.38sylvanaarNimbleRabit im trying to get you to test with a clean setup
20:21.51NimbleRabitokok, deleting and regeting with WAU
20:22.06sylvanaarNimbleRabit and only Ace2 + Prat enabled at the login
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20:23.47MikkSaroz: That'll be everyone on your _server_ then
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20:24.03frank83xBartender has something like CooldownCount or omniCC integrated?
20:24.22kenlyricno, it doesn't , not anymore.
20:24.30sylvanaardeleting macro-cache.txt fixes it
20:24.46DyxxtraAllo chaps
20:25.15NimbleRabitsylvanaar: well that worked...
20:25.24NimbleRabitI seriusly reinstalled prat an hour ago though =/
20:25.38sylvanaarNimbleRabit idk
20:25.44NimbleRabitoh well
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20:26.13sylvanaarNimbleRabit basically it looked like some addon had replaced the global environment
20:26.41Sarozis it possible to trace lua calls
20:26.57SarozI mean, check what shit is loading in what order
20:27.00Sarozwhat functions is getting called
20:27.47DyxxtraSorry to ask about something that's probably been beaten to death today, but I'm just trying to resolve an issue with FuBar after the latest patch.  Essentially the UI's - erm - fubar. Updated to wowace updater 1.8, updated a ton of addons.  Still messed up. So what I'm asking is, is it just me, or others experiencing similar issues?
20:28.07Gnarfozwhat is your actual error, Dyxxtra?
20:28.26NimbleRabitsylvanaar: I must have screwed up the prat folders somehow, sorry bout that
20:29.26sylvanaarDyxxtra people always have problems
20:29.31Antiarc|WorkDyxxtra: I suspect you're missing libraries
20:29.43Antiarc|WorkInstall BugGrabber and BugSack and use them to help you track down what's missing
20:29.51DyxxtraI should've been more exact - it's not that it's really fubar, it's just that many addons don't load, and for some bizarre reason I have one channel that spews stuff like someone was spamming the channel.
20:30.20DyxxtraBasically just wanted to probe if there was a known wider issue, or if it's just me
20:30.59DyxxtraProbably just my setup that's screwed up now somehow.  Thought it might have to do with the latest patch.  I'll look into it again tomorrow, with more focus
20:31.04sylvanaarthat brings up a good point - bugsack, maybe we should put a LoadManagers for it on Ace2, then load it always
20:31.18DyxxtraThanks for the tip, Antiarc
20:31.33sylvanaaror buggrabber
20:31.34sylvanaaridk
20:32.05TecnoBrathmmm whats the purl trigger for the addon kit?
20:32.14kergoth~listkeys addon
20:32.27sylvanaarframexml
20:32.51Gnarfozit's slow
20:33.03durcynDyxxtra: toc version was updated, if i just -had- to guess, i'd say you have a swack of addons still using 20003.
20:33.26moonsorrowhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=230.0 , spoiler at kael'thas if someone is interested ;)
20:33.32durcynand what do you know but blizzard, in their infinite wisdom, decided to toggle off "load out of date addons" with every patch
20:34.09DyxxtraRight, will probe that, see what's causing the probs
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20:38.41kenlyricdurcyn: better than loading broken mods for noobs and getting many many gm tickets.
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20:40.21Lyfeblizzard likes to toggle that off. they want to make sure you know what changes their making to their UI to make it better :)
20:42.42durcynkenlyric: i guess.  but then you get "why aren't my mods loading" stuff :o
20:43.08Kossih_[]_hey, i have noticed two major errors i get. first is that bartender does not switch to the right casterbar while shifting to shadowform in combat. also my target and focus frames keep disapearing all the time, in combat etc... not really helping
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20:45.28sbuSaroz: news about that tainting stuff? :o
20:47.21WixiAnyone know a mod to track weapon and skill proc rates? like sword spec or Mongoose procs?
20:48.26NimbleRabitclad|work: you there?
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20:50.01[dRaCo]wixi: wowi.com, search for procwatch
20:50.13[dRaCo]edit the toc, should work
20:50.18Wixithanks i'll have a look
20:50.28[dRaCo]anyone got a lightning overload tracker?
20:51.03Antiarc|WorkFor the record, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066_q4DIeqk is the best thing ever.
20:51.15deltron[dRaCo]: ooh that sounds neat
20:52.05[dRaCo]hm?
20:52.11deltronLO tracker
20:52.19Sedaisctd isnt working :(
20:52.30[dRaCo]yeah... anything like that around?
20:52.54deltronhmm
20:53.03deltronmaybe windfuryfu could be adapted
20:53.35[dRaCo]is there a combatlog message for LO?
20:54.32deltronnot sure
20:55.29[dRaCo]neither am I, never played an elemental shaman
20:55.39[dRaCo]a friend of mine was complaining 'bout the proc rate
20:55.42deltronI was elemental for leveling
20:55.46deltronit's fairly low
20:56.08Sedaiis there a !!!libs update?
20:56.39[dRaCo]supposed to be 5%
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20:57.23deltron[dRaCo]: i bet it is lower than that
20:58.18NightHawkTheSaneIt probably -is- 5%.
20:58.46[dRaCo]5% on hit? 5% on cast? 5% on whatever?
20:59.28DeviadW MILAN
20:59.48DeviadMILAN CHAMPION!
21:00.14deltronwhat
21:00.17[dRaCo]capslock champion?
21:00.19NightHawkTheSane[dRaCo]: I -think- i recall reading somewhere that it procced on resists as well, so I'm going to go on a limb and say 5% chance on cast, but don't quote me on that.
21:00.20deltronoh football
21:00.27kenlyricmilan indiana?
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21:00.51deltronac milan
21:00.52Deviadkenlyric, MILAN the soccer team
21:00.52deltronor whatever
21:00.52Deviad:P
21:01.01Deviadit just won the "champions' league"
21:01.01Deviad:P
21:01.04mjcdeltron: went to kara with HRH last night... random invite
21:01.08kenlyricDeviad: so, not milan, Indiana?
21:01.13deltronmjc: how'd it go?
21:01.16kenlyricMilan, Italy maybe?
21:01.23Deviadac Milan :|
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21:01.38mjcdeltron: well.... but I need to seriously retool my gear if I'm going to DPS without bleed effects
21:01.41mjcfucking undead
21:01.45Deviadit's the soccer team of Milan the city in Italy :P
21:01.52deltronmjc: doomkin ;)
21:02.22mjcdeltron: they need a tank, yarwen isn't always around ;)
21:02.52mjcdeltron: http://www.thottbot.com/i28672 god that's hto
21:02.54deltronah
21:03.08ravagernlwooot, I just got my new hawkstryder stuck in an egg  :P
21:03.11deltronI got some new gloves last night
21:03.19mjchttp://www.thottbot.com/i28732 too
21:03.42NimbleRabitsylvanaar: a different addon of mine is having a problem getting a "global" now T_T
21:03.51NimbleRabitsylvanaar: I must have really screwed something up hmm?
21:04.01DyxxtraOk, problem solved.  It was the CT-mods acting up.  Man.  I need a new brain add-on.
21:04.38deltronmjc: i got http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28506 last night
21:05.10mjcdeltron: nice
21:05.22deltronI'm healbot right now
21:05.23mjcI'd take those
21:05.33mjcbut for me fel leather gloves are better
21:06.07deltroni'm not sure if I'm going to use them
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21:07.32hahlolhi all
21:07.36DyxxtraThanks for the tips, chaps.  Bye!
21:07.46deltronI have http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27745 - but that doesn't have any gem slots
21:07.51deltronand the desolation gloves
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21:08.51deltronI gotta kill my ore data for cart tonight
21:10.10clad|workNimbleRabit: you can always PM me you know =)
21:13.25NimbleRabitcladhaire: what is a pm
21:13.29deltronmsg
21:13.42mjcdeltron: I'd use them on my sham
21:14.22mjcdeltron: know anyone that can make fel leather boots?
21:14.22Stephmwwoops, forgot to update them all
21:14.32deltronmjc: check with tiki I think
21:14.40mjcand Figurine - Nightseye Panther
21:14.46hypetechthe wowace updater is throwing unhandled exceptions when I try to reload index. anybody here deal with that?
21:14.53NightHawkTheSanebest. sign. ever. http://www.thisisbroken.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/18/flick_off.png
21:14.56mjchypetech: update
21:15.33deltronhypetech: I was getting that last night, just redownload into another directory
21:16.16stavmaris there a way to tell tattle to only update or download the only PvP group I am in?
21:16.17mjcdeltron: I need some bot or crypts for a new staff
21:16.29deltronk
21:16.30mjcpref crypts lol for +hit :(
21:16.34Ominoushas anyone got a babblespell working copy atm?
21:16.35deltronlet me know
21:16.35mjcdeltron: so lemme know when you're free
21:16.37mjc:D
21:16.39Zerdesht|AvestaHey guys, having a quick question that I havent found an answer for. Changed to ag_unitframes, ora2 and i've had grid for a while with no problem. Anyways everytime I login and already in a raid I get frozen and I need to close wow and tell the raid leader to kick me so I can login.
21:16.41deltronI'm heading home soon
21:16.55hypetechmjc, I have the latest version
21:17.01mjcZerdesht|Avesta: update them and all your other ace2 versions from svn?
21:17.10deltronhypetech: redownload and unzip to a new directory
21:17.44Zerdesht|Avestamjc: Yes I removed WTF folder, wdb. Removed all addons and redownloaded. (First time I use ag_unitframes and ora2) so I downloaded them today
21:18.06deltronZerdesht|Avesta: try pitbull instead of ag_unitframes ;)
21:19.04hypetechanybody have some screenies of pitbull frames?
21:19.06Zerdesht|Avestaoki, I'll try it now. I was suspecting it was some unitframe addon. (I have other addons too but will try puitbull).
21:19.09SHIFT_nismo<PROTECTED>
21:19.18SHIFT_nismoi was getting the same problem
21:19.24SHIFT_nismoif you let it sit there it will work itself out
21:20.01NimbleRabitcladhaire: anyways what I wanted to talk to you about is my waypoints aren't showing up in cartographer
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21:20.44cladhaireNimbleRabit: then talk to someone from Cartographer
21:20.58cladhaireTomTom and LightHeaded have nothing to do with other addons
21:21.28hypetechwhat are the differences in pitbull and aguf
21:22.11ulicpitbull has ALOT more you can tweak
21:22.23NimbleRabitand is updated more frequently
21:22.41ulicbut that's because it's still being polished :)
21:22.55hypetechany screenshots? also, how is it as far as memory/cpu intensive as opposed to aguf?
21:22.58ulicI've been using it for a bit now, it's stable
21:23.19ulicnot sure there
21:23.45ChompersPutBull is made of 75% awesome, aguf is made of 50%
21:23.49ulichypetech: my screens wouldn't convience you, as I run it looking alot like agUF :)
21:24.12NimbleRabitckknight: ppst
21:24.14NimbleRabitpsst*
21:24.54Elkano_anyone of you using FramesResized?
21:25.02Chompersi do
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21:25.29TecnoBratAnyone have an issue with your target frame not updating in comabt, and also with a rogue blizzard unit frame floating at the top of your screen? I use aguf
21:25.30NimbleRabithypetech: heh mine looks pretty much exactly like aguf
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21:25.49hypetech12«11NimbleRabit12» lol...so why switch?
21:26.06NimbleRabitit's using 1.7mb for me righ tnow memory wise
21:26.10NimbleRabithypetech: features
21:26.14Chompersthere is alot more substance to it
21:26.16NimbleRabitlike druidbar support
21:26.17Elkano_Chompers, could you test if showing of offline guild mates is broken by FramesResized?
21:26.18NimbleRabitthe spark
21:26.20NimbleRabitetc.
21:26.30Zerdesht|AvestaTecnoBrat: you mean like this? http://www.brosk.org/images/moo.jpg
21:26.45TecnoBratZerdesht|Avesta YES!
21:26.48Chomperslooks fine to me Elkano_
21:26.51NimbleRabitand it says (Moonkin) if a druid is in moonkin form!
21:26.55NimbleRabitit's just little stuff like that
21:26.58Zerdesht|AvestaI have the same issue, it comes and goes
21:27.00NimbleRabitthat make it better
21:27.06Wixianyone here know why my Quartz timer bars like renew show up as renew (player) not for example Renew (Wixi)
21:27.06Chompersworks fine when ordered by name/zone/lvl/class
21:27.20TecnoBratthats exactly what I mean Zerdesht|Avesta, haha
21:27.23Elkano_Chompers: well, on wowace forums someone reported FR breaking it :/ but we both had no idea why
21:27.29Chompers:/
21:27.43Chompersseems nice, could do with being a little longer though
21:28.32TecnoBratZerdesht|Avesta, you use agUF?
21:28.42Zerdesht|AvestaTecnoBrat yea
21:28.57TecnoBrat~seen ag`
21:29.48purlag` <n=ag`@0x535f749b.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 47m 24s ago, saying: 'XCOM oh snap'.
21:29.49nymbiaWixi: i dont think it adds text for the player it's on
21:29.49Zerdesht|AvestaTecnoBrat They suggested pitbull here so I'll try that instead
21:29.49Wixioh, i assumed it did, sorry :)
21:30.27CIA-2303ominous * r36648 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/Paladin.lua Locales/enUS.lua): ClassTimer: added pally stuff
21:30.27FrostByghteshould I post Cartographer error info in any particular thread or just create a new thread?
21:30.41TecnoBratZerdesht|Avesta, yea .. I've got all of my chars setup with agUF, so I don't really want to redo everything. I might see if I can poke at it .. but we'll see
21:31.45Zerdesht|AvestaHolla if you get it to work :D
21:34.33Kaeltenanyone know the syntax for sendmail?
21:34.51FrostByghteer...switch to postfix...that's how I learned to config sendmail :)
21:34.56ulicFrostByghte: usually find what ever thread they have linked from the wiki page
21:35.02FrostByghtesorry couldn't resist
21:35.11FrostByghteulic: ah thank you, I just posted :( I'll look there next time
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21:35.52hahlolim useing pitbull and i like how under the frame i can see exmp: when i use hamstring it will be like a timer under the mob frame..... anyone knows what that addon name?
21:36.26hahloli mean just the timer under the frame
21:37.59Daemonahahlol its a 2.1 feature incorporated into pitbull
21:38.12Daemonayou will have similar even with default frames
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21:40.18hahlolaha ok thanks
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21:40.51GagorianDid the standard blizzard actionbar get a new bar for the tree of life form? Can any druid provide some information?
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21:42.06Daemonauuuh no i think they are using 7 8 9 10
21:43.54GagorianWhat would be the name of those bars blizzard style then?
21:44.58CIA-2303dogberry * r36649 10Automaton/Automaton.toc:
21:44.58CIA-23Automaton:
21:44.59CIA-23- Bump TOC to 20100
21:45.48CIA-2303Tristan * r36650 10ShammySpy/ (Data.lua Frames.lua Localization.lua ShammySpy.lua):
21:45.49CIA-23ShammySpy:
21:45.49CIA-23- Very early and crude Pulse for totems (needs more work)
21:46.08break19Ominous: ping
21:46.32CIA-2303ominous * r36651 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: hopefully now in all in one bars should not repeat, unteasted
21:46.33Ominousbreak19:pong
21:46.42break19hey.
21:46.55break19"grow up" doesnt
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21:47.01break19wrt classtimers
21:47.11Ominousyou got the latest ver?
21:47.20Ominousas i thought i fixed that earliuer
21:47.22break19the next one *does* place it on top, but it shifts them down...
21:47.30Ominousoh
21:47.40Ominouswhat do you mean?
21:48.23break19I use a veiwport addon and keep my text/bars at the bottom.. and just above that on the right side, is where I put my classtimer..
21:48.59break19when it creates a new one, it places it at the top, and moves the others below it
21:49.08break19without it checked, it just places it below
21:49.20break19so, in essence, it's still growing down into my chat frames
21:49.46Ominousodd
21:50.13CIA-2303pettigrow * r36652 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:
21:50.13CIA-23Babble-2.2:
21:50.13CIA-23- Babble-Zone-2.2: frFR Update
21:50.28break19indeed it is. :)
21:50.35break19other than that, I love it.
21:50.56break19i still havent seen it show a master of subtlety bar tho..
21:51.29Ominousbreak19: oh thats not a buff is it
21:51.43break19not per-se
21:52.01Ominousbreak19: then that will never show
21:52.02break19however, it is a timed thing, and a bar *did* show up when using roguetimerfu
21:52.29CIA-2303ominous * r36653 10ClassTimer/Bars/Rogue.lua: ClassTimer: Removed Master of sublerty as its not a buff you gain
21:52.40Ominousyea as then i called it from loosing stealth
21:52.47Ominousand if the talent was there
21:53.26break19i liked it tho. :p
21:53.38break19i liked knowing how much longer the damage increase would last.
21:53.39Ominoussorry :P
21:53.40NeoTronSo I checked with my druid friend. Last night on Mag she had up above 20k health, 24.4k armor and 50% dodge buffed
21:54.08NeoTronThis is with kings, commanding shout, grace of air totem, flask and whatever other raid buffs
21:54.50break19there's no way to add it, in classtimers, without a total rewrite, is there..
21:55.29SarozI love how, even when idle, KTM sucks CPU usage
21:55.42Sarozsame for aguf, even when not in a group
21:55.47Saroz*yawn*
21:56.03Chompersauctioneer too
21:56.10Sarozbrilliant
21:56.14Chompersits..not...doing...ANYTHING
21:56.20nymbiaaguf has more of an excuse to do it than ktm
21:57.16nymbiaat least it's displaying something! ;)
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21:57.17Saroztrue
21:57.17Sarozbut still
21:57.17Funkeh`nymbia: !
21:57.17SarozsRF does nothing \o/
21:57.41Gnarfozzomg
21:57.41Funkeh`fix quartz kk
21:57.45GnarfozI just typed "exit" into notepad, wanting to close it -.-
21:57.45break19heh
21:57.45nymbiaSaroz: hax!
21:57.45hyperChipmunk:qq
21:57.45nymbiaFunkeh`: your mother.
21:57.45Silviu-nymbia, 3 suggestions pls ? ;)
21:57.45nymbiaFunkeh`: what broke
21:57.45Saroznymbia is on a roll
21:57.46nymbiaSilviu-: hit me
21:57.46Funkeh`buff module
21:57.48Funkeh`sec i get you error
21:57.51nymbiaSaroz: hell yeah ;)
21:58.00Gnarfoztattle_lfm broke :<
21:58.01break19<PROTECTED>
21:58.04break19heh
21:58.08Gnarfozstill trying to figure out why ^^
21:58.14nymbiaGnarfoz: with the patch?  that's harsh.
21:58.28Silviu-nymbia, Buff module, Quartz : option to rightclick bar to delete it
21:58.35Silviu-Hmm the other 2 are not so important :)
21:58.45Gnarfozdunno. I dry-ported it to 2.1 blizz-UI code (which, actually, just changes 2 unrelated things in that file)
21:58.47break19oh well.. off to play with my twin blade of unquenched thirst's :)
21:58.53Gnarfozgonna debug a bit
21:58.56nymbiaSilviu-: do we want to ignore that buff forever, or just for a little while?
21:58.58Silviu-Well, one was show target on it but anyway it won`t show the bar of another target that u have
21:59.05Silviu-No, just delete it
21:59.08Silviu-Not ignore
21:59.20nymbiaSilviu-: ok.  i'll add that to the list
21:59.20TecnoBratbreak19, your what?
21:59.25Funkeh`nymbia: Quartz_Buff\Buff.lua:411 Usage: <unnamed>:SetScale(scale)
21:59.34Funkeh`every time i /rl or log on
21:59.49break19TecnoBrat: my rogue hit 64 last night.. and I had two [Blade of Unquenched Thirst] daggers in the bank waiting for that.
22:00.02TecnoBrathaha nice
22:00.07break19but I had to work early this morning and havent, as yet, gotten a chance to really place with em yet
22:00.08nymbiaFunkeh`: did you delete your player module or somethin?
22:00.17Silviu-nymbia and Dotimer had a nice feature to add your time to chat window on left click, don`t know if it`s so important :)
22:00.31TecnoBratbreak19, why would you duel wield a 1.3 speed dagger?
22:00.36Funkeh`nymbia: my what?
22:00.37nymbiaSilviu-: hrm, ok
22:00.40Funkeh`i disabled a few modules
22:00.58break19TecnoBrat: my standard answer.. Because I can! (tm)
22:01.11Funkeh`no nymbia
22:01.12Silviu-Funkeh` Player module = your castbar :P
22:01.15Funkeh`player module = enabled
22:01.17nymbiaFunkeh`: if the player module is uncheckified on char select, that'd explain it
22:01.19pdpiyou can also dual wield Hope Ender with Spiteblade
22:01.24Funkeh`its not
22:01.28nymbiaFunkeh`: well then............... you're bad.
22:01.39Funkeh`everything works fine, i think
22:01.44Funkeh`its jsut an irritating startup error
22:01.47nymbiaactually, i could do that better
22:01.49pdpithat doesn't make it wise
22:02.05aen`hmm, this new elkbar i dont like :(
22:02.14TecnoBratpdpi, those are non-unique anyways .. just get 2!
22:02.35pdpiHope Ender and Spiteblade are not unique?
22:02.39pdpio.O
22:03.02pdpiIt's still daft to dual wield them as a rogue, though (as cool as it may look)
22:03.19aen`the bar texture is so ugly :(
22:03.27sbuplease fix raid frame tainting :o
22:03.35sbuneed to swap groups in combat :p
22:03.39pdpiif/when I get spiteblade (or the gladiator's slicer if I ever get 'round to that), I won't replace my latro's before black temple, I think
22:03.46Chompersholy fuck
22:03.50Chompersafter weeks of trying
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22:03.58Chomperswe killed aran with 1 person left alive :o
22:04.04Silviu-;))
22:04.10TecnoBratdidnt aran get nerfed?
22:04.22Chompersyup, only reason we killed him
22:04.33pdpiAran got nerfed?
22:04.34pdpiaw
22:04.36Antiarc|Workpdpi: The gladiator's shiv, slicer, and ripper are all really nice upgrades, and are a solid 19 DPS over Latro's
22:04.37Sarozbadly
22:04.50nymbiano fun :( what'd they change?
22:04.57TecnoBratShade of Aran's conjured elementals now have significantly less health, Shade of Aran's Blizzard should now be more visible and its duration has been reduced, Shade of Aran's Flame Wreath should completely ignore pets, summons, guardians and mind-controlled NPCs.
22:05.01pdpiIf I get an arena team, I'll go for the mainhand only
22:05.10TecnoBratShade of Aran will no longer cast Dragon's Breath.
22:05.13pdpi*IF* I get enough points to then buy an offhand, I will
22:05.23Silviu-Hmm, from our experience today, Gruul is a little buggy with HS, Tidewalker hmm he hits harder i think and Murlocs have a little more hp
22:05.24Antiarc|WorkThe offhand is 2 weeks of lazy 5v5 :P
22:05.45pdpibut I stubbornly refuse to offhand anything slower than 1.5
22:05.45TecnoBratSilviu-, gruul is bugged
22:05.45TecnoBratso is the mage on high king
22:05.53Silviu-We killed him but we wiped 3 times
22:05.53Silviu-;)
22:05.54Sarozskipped gruul
22:05.54Gnarfozpdpi: the offhand is not slower than 1.5
22:05.54Sarozwiped on maggy instead
22:05.54WixiNot sure if gruul is bugged or a new mechanic
22:05.54Gnarfozit is 1.5
22:05.57SarozLEARN TO CLICK
22:05.57Sarozffs
22:06.08Sarozhe's bugged
22:06.09Sarozl2tigole
22:06.13pdpiGnarfoz: aye, which is why I said I'd get it AFTER the mainhad
22:06.13Antiarc|WorkThe arena offhands were changed to 1.5
22:06.16pdpi*mainhand
22:06.21Antiarc|WorkWhich is why I'm now combat fists with the arena offhand :D
22:06.22Silviu-Tigole said on curse they will aply an hotfix
22:06.22aen`anyone know how to change the elkbuff bar texture back to the old?
22:06.23Silviu-;)
22:06.31Chompersso glad i dont have to go through arans trash to get to prince
22:06.35pdpibut the better your mainhand, the less your offhand's dps matters versus its speed
22:06.41TecnoBratSaroz, we wiped on mag last night too
22:06.49TecnoBratour hunter aparatnly had auto attack on
22:06.52Sarozhaha
22:06.56TecnoBratso it screwed teh clicking
22:06.57aen`nm found it
22:07.01TecnoBratwiped at like 36%
22:07.02Sarozfucking fuck
22:07.08Sarozstupid people l2click
22:07.15Sarozadds are piss now though
22:07.18Silviu-i never clicked :)
22:07.20TecnoBratyea
22:07.22SarozP2 is the real deal now
22:07.25TecnoBratwe flew through them
22:07.30Silviu-Ha ?
22:07.33Chompersoh Saroz, got that guy you told me about to do my mongoose enchant
22:07.36Chompersso thanks for that
22:07.39Saroznps
22:07.40Silviu-Adds are not so many now ?
22:07.48TecnoBratadds have less health
22:07.52TecnoBratand infernals hit for less
22:07.53TecnoBratmuch less
22:07.57Silviu-Oh ok
22:07.58Sarozthey dont have less HP
22:08.00SarozI think
22:08.03TecnoBratthey dont 1 shot a warlock now
22:08.06Silviu-With adds i wanted to say Infernals
22:08.10Sarozthey hit me for 300
22:08.11Sarozlol
22:08.22Silviu-Well .. it 1hit me ..
22:08.25Silviu-As wl :P
22:08.30TecnoBratthey still do a couple K when they spawn
22:08.38Sarozyea
22:08.41Sarozfire pot, gogo
22:08.45Silviu-Bla ..
22:08.49Silviu-No need pots ! ;)
22:08.55TecnoBratbut their melee is way less now
22:08.58Sarozdont get smart with me
22:09.58stavmarDOes someone know how to fix this error? http://ace.pastey.net/39061
22:13.00NimbleRabitsylvanaar: is there a way to edit an alias that I'm just missing or do I just delete and remake
22:14.11[dRaCo]Cart seems a little broken :(
22:14.49NimbleRabityep
22:14.55NimbleRabitseems that way
22:16.00NimbleRabitstavmar: try resetting your settings
22:16.11NimbleRabitfor omni.  Somebody said something about that earlier
22:16.30stavmarok
22:16.51Gnarfoznymbia: ok, it was a sleep-induced mistake :)
22:17.18CIA-2303funkydude * r36654 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: 2.1 fixes and additions
22:17.26Funkeh`nymbia: so what i do!
22:17.33NeoTronmy idea for infernals now is to banish what you can, paladin w/ FR aoe tank the non-banished
22:17.44NeoTronno need to fear and crap when they hit like kittens
22:18.32nymbiaFunkeh`: you broke it
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22:19.09CIA-2303cryect * r36655 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua BuffWindow.lua): BigBrother - Added new Guardian Elixirs and Unstable Flasks
22:19.19sylvanaarNimbleRabit you make one of the same name imo
22:19.47NimbleRabitoh
22:19.48NimbleRabitok
22:19.50deltronmjc: hopping on shortly
22:19.52Stephmwanyone know if you can do both the ogrimmar + shattrath children's week quests?
22:19.55NimbleRabitstill not as good as editing =P
22:20.06Ziconstephmw: I'm doing both at once as we speak, so yes.
22:20.09Funkeh`nymbia: how did i break it?
22:20.16NimbleRabitI have to list the one I want to change, open chat, shift click the items in the alias into chat
22:20.19NimbleRabitthen make a new one lol
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22:21.02break19oh, hey Ominous.. classtimers is fine.. must've missed an update somewhere.. :)
22:21.12Ominous:)
22:21.19nymbiaFunkeh`: i dunno
22:21.37nymbiaFunkeh`: something's loading in the wrong order
22:21.48Funkeh`well i have disabled a lot of stuf fi think is useless
22:21.54Funkeh`so its a problem clearly :)
22:22.02break19ok, back to fullscreen.. these daggers kick ass.. and as to why I want fast weps... more chances for poisons to apply.. :)
22:22.05Funkeh`want a list of what i have disabled?
22:22.30nymbiaFunkeh`: as long as you have player enabled, that shouldnt be erroring
22:22.37Funkeh`its enabled
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22:23.38art3mishrm who made quartz again?
22:23.42CIA-2303antiarc * r36656 10/branches/SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.lua: SanityItemCache: Drycode. Should ease the loading/zoning burden, and should fix problems with excessive scans during multiple concurrent updates. Schedule interval needs testing and tweaking.
22:23.45kenlyricgod
22:23.54art3miswell technically heat and pressure
22:24.06kenlyricI thought you meant the mod.
22:24.07art3misbut in this case i was talking about the addon ;)
22:24.17CIA-2303antiarc 07SplitCache * r36657 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua): Sanity2: Updates for the temp table creation and management stuffs.
22:24.25nymbiaFunkeh`: only thing i can think of is if you've got the buffs module in the quartz dir and the buffs running lod
22:24.30ravagernlnymbia, like all other awesome addons
22:24.36art3misim trying to figure out if its possible one of the bars from quartz clings to metahud
22:24.41Antiarc|Workbreak19: You lose a serious amount of damage by using low-damage-range weapons with instants
22:24.44Antiarc|WorkFar more than the poisons make up for
22:24.47Antiarc|WorkFor whatever that's worth
22:25.38art3miscuz ive only got my casting bar enabled yet there are timers for my dots n stuff attached to my hud, and its not chrono since the chorno ones still show up where i put them
22:25.42CIA-2303gnarfoz * r36658 10Tattle_LFM/lfm.lua: Tattle_LFM - actually replace the Blizzard functions. note to self: get more sleep.
22:25.57ravagernleven when you were using weapon like martin thunder your dps would still be lower when you were using a 1.8 dagger
22:26.01break19Antiarc|Work: i honestly havent seen a loss of dps..
22:26.03nymbiaFunkeh`: er, player lod rather
22:26.54Gnarfoznymbia: yay @ commit :D I messed up the replacing of the original functions because I renamed my modified ones... then I copied 2.1 code and modified that again, but forgot to also rename the functions. so the replacement didn't do anything :D
22:28.10Funkeh`nymbia: i run wau so doubtfull
22:28.12Funkeh`ill check
22:28.22Funkeh`nope
22:29.19abyssichateFunkeh`, I got a decent transcription of the lurker below
22:29.30abyssichatebut it is being hotfixed, so it is probably going to be back to the pre-2.1 version
22:30.48break19besides.. since I have master of subtlety, I want to hit them as many times as possible while the dmg is still increased by the talent...
22:31.08nymbiaGnarfoz: lol, nice ;)
22:31.19Funkeh`abyssichate: gimme transcript
22:31.25Funkeh`abyssichate: how do you know?
22:31.25art3misdon't do it!
22:31.27art3misit's a trick!
22:31.56abyssichateI saw a blue post
22:32.07CIA-2303ominous * r36659 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: fied shared media (hopefully)
22:32.21Antiarc|Workbreak19: Err. That's a better argument for a slower weapon
22:32.22abyssichateSomewhere :/
22:32.30Antiarc|WorkBecause you get more of a boost during the out-of-stealth bonus.
22:33.29Antiarc|WorkI compared Unquenchable Thist to Perdition's Blade (which is as close as you can get to UT in terms of DPS, with an intended-mainhand dagger), and you lose an average of 16 DPS by using a faster weapon, assuming the two weapons had the same DPS.
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22:34.18brett_any world on the in combat target frame issues with ag_uf?
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22:35.11hyperChipmunk>8\ i've killed like 30 nagas in steamvault and no orders for starting the armaments quest; anyone know if you have to be in a group for them to drop?
22:35.25Kalman|hC: You do not.
22:35.39hyperChipmunkso just my bad luck? =P
22:35.42CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36660 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_RegenFu.toc: FuBar_RegenFu: Removed Loadmanagers, and OptionalDeps TOC entries
22:36.05Antiarc|WorkI assume you're using Instant Poison 6, which means you average 26 nature damage per swing, assuming zero resists. Poison is about 14.5 DPS on Perd, 20 DPS on UT. Combined then, you're losing about 11 DPS by using UT over a suitable mainhand dagger.
22:36.25Antiarc|WorkAs you see resists, or on poison resistant or immune mobs, the slower MH's comparative damage skyrockets.
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22:39.46NimbleRabitand there are a lot of those
22:40.43Antiarc|WorkSeriously, I realize that they probably made the curator poison-immune to prevent mana drain stings, but at least let mutilate rogues land wounding or something useless on him :(
22:41.02Kalman|Set the poisoned flag by default.
22:41.04kergoth:(
22:41.16Antiarc|WorkMutilate specs need a talent that lets you land poisons on poison-immune mobs or something
22:41.18kergothAntiarc|Work, that sucks, thats a big gimp to mutilate rogue dps
22:41.20Kalman|Actually, setting poisoned on all raid bosses would be fine.
22:41.25Antiarc|WorkEven if it means they take no damage from the poison or whatever
22:41.35Antiarc|WorkBut mutilate rogues getting screwed out of being anywhere near useful is stupid.
22:42.02kergoththey should let us land wound on bosses that dont heal themselves or something, no harm
22:42.06Antiarc|WorkRight
22:42.13Antiarc|WorkOr let us land deadly but make them immune to the ticks
22:42.18kergothyeah
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22:43.18NimbleRabitwhat they need is ghost-debuffs or w/e that lets you debuff something even if it's immune.  It annoys the hell out of me that if my target is MS'd and has BoF I can't wound or crip him
22:43.22NimbleRabitand therefore my mutilate sucks
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22:44.32Antiarc|WorkThey need to let wounding and MS co-exist without the -healing stacking.
22:44.44Antiarc|WorkBecause honestly, not being able to even use wounding because you're around an MS warrior blows.
22:45.06Antiarc|WorkOr just remove the poisoned requirement from mutilate. It's a 41-point talent, few crying out loud.
22:45.17TecnoBratpost patch, posions are no longer bugged, so will get cleansed 100x faster
22:45.40art3misis dreamchat neat?
22:45.45Antiarc|WorkVile Poisons offers dispel resist, and it takes time to clear a 5-stack of dispell-resistant wounding.
22:45.49art3misor is it just bloaty and annoying like prat?
22:45.50Funkeh`nymbia: ever thought of using candybars in quartz?
22:45.55NimbleRabitI'm not worried about poision cleanses
22:46.02AKXart3mis, it's neat. Does it work right now? Not really.
22:46.08art3misoh
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22:46.21art3misguess ill stick with phanx
22:46.21TecnoBratit doesnt take long at all with remove poison from a druid
22:46.24kergothFunkeh`, candy has a couple weaknesses, he may have hit them.  *shrug*
22:46.25NimbleRabityeah "neat" is pretty much the perfect word for it
22:46.28kebinusanI think Ive failed this fifth wingcommander race over 20 times now
22:46.33TecnoBratsince it removes like 4 total or something
22:46.41chutwigoh man so many exciting things to look forward to
22:46.48chutwig2.1, gladiator shoulders, every single addon exploding
22:46.50chutwighooray!
22:46.57kergothhooray
22:47.05chutwigalso i'm not in bermuda any more
22:47.05Funkeh`all my addons work perfect
22:47.07Funkeh`l2p
22:47.09chutwigno matter what anyone tells you
22:47.12Antiarc|WorkTecnoBrat: That takes 8 sec, though, and is, of course, subject to dispel resists
22:47.12Funkeh`apart from quartz but thats nymbias fault
22:47.13chutwigbermuda is really, really, really boring
22:47.19Antiarc|WorkIn that 8 sec the rogue is gonna swing lots of times.
22:48.47kergothi'm ont getting any errors in my addon set anymore
22:48.47chutwigi need to reboot my desktop for winders updates and then i'll update all my addons
22:48.48Jumoorim having issues with ag_uf not creating target windows in combat
22:48.48Jumoorits exciting
22:48.48kergotha mut rogue with any points in imp poisons at all is gonna re-apply the 5 in no time
22:48.48Antiarc|WorkYeah, Abolish is a pain, but it's not a rogue killer by any stretch of the imagination.
22:48.48NimbleRabitnah
22:48.48hyperChipmunkcan closetgnome handle profession bags intelligently?
22:48.48NimbleRabitso, why does clos remove poisons?  They are spells now?
22:48.48Kaeltenhrm how long as the site been unreachable?
22:48.53hyperChipmunkNimbleRabit: harmful effects, not spell
22:48.57TecnoBratNimbleRabit, clos removes any harmfuil effect
22:48.59Antiarc|WorkPoisons have always been spells
22:49.08NimbleRabit"harmful spell effects" is what the tooltip says
22:49.28kebinusanits funny cause rogues get that, but spellstone is worded the same, and it causes UA to proc and only does magic
22:49.43hyperChipmunknymbia: poke
22:49.54Antiarc|WorkSpellstone is a self mass dispel, effectively.
22:50.02hyperChipmunkvhaarr: *stab*
22:50.02Antiarc|WorkCloS is specifically not a dispel
22:50.09Ominousfiles.wowace.com has stoped syncing with svn.wowac.co,m
22:50.17kebinusanAntiarc|Work: read the wording, spellstone is worded just like ua
22:50.21Kaeltengeez apache had gone crazy
22:50.21kebinusanit says removes not dispels
22:50.35NimbleRabityeah they just chose to make the mechanics differently
22:50.43Antiarc|Workkebinusan: I know it is, but the mechanic is a dispel.
22:50.44CIA-2303sayclub * r36661 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
22:50.44CIA-23Babble-2.2:
22:50.44CIA-23- Babble-Spell-2.2 : Updated localization koKR
22:50.47kebinusanIE, world of melee craft is back
22:50.48CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36662 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (. FuBar_RegenFu.toc Libs/ Libs/embeds.xml embeds.xml): FuBar_RegenFu: Restructured to use embeds.xml
22:50.55NimbleRabitKaelten: site is reachable for me
22:50.59hyperChipmunkclos is just a ulose button
22:51.12Antiarc|WorkHah, I wish.
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22:51.16KaeltenI just restarted apache
22:51.16NeoTronfeh I can still own rogues
22:51.20NeoTronit's just more even now
22:51.23Ominouskaelten: files.wowace.com is still at rev 36640
22:51.25NeoTronin raid dps that is
22:51.29Kaeltenit was using a few gigs of swap
22:51.29chutwigKaelten: you made WAU lock up >:o
22:51.51Ominousand it should be at 36660 as that was the rev at 00:40
22:51.59TecnoBratNeoTron, after the patch yesterday?
22:52.25Kaeltenits currently a little behind
22:52.28Kaeltenit'll catch up
22:52.37kebinusanImo, clos shouldnt increase resists of fear and other CC abilities and should act like a dispel similar to UA, sap and blind should share a diminishing return, oh and give fear the same chances to break on damage as fear has in 2.1
22:52.39Kaeltenits working on updating to 36640 it looks like
22:52.59kebinusanerr and proc UA
22:53.04Antiarc|Workimo, locks should die when I target them
22:53.05Antiarc|WorkBut that's just me.
22:53.09NimbleRabitagreed
22:53.11kebinusanif you're melee we do
22:53.13kebinusanthanks
22:53.15Antiarc|WorkPff. :P
22:53.15CyrezSVN is stalled again. ><
22:53.16Ominouskaleten: but it should be past 36640
22:53.23kebinusanhave you seen how completely gay fear is in 2.1
22:53.29NimbleRabitlocks don't fear me
22:53.29chutwigkebinusan: do you get all the warriors who tell you omg how do you lose to warriors we're so easy to kill for warlocks
22:53.30kebinusanwe effectively have no cc ability now
22:53.33CyrezYeah, 36640.
22:53.33chutwigi want to slap them
22:54.23Antiarc|Workkebinusan: CC that allows damage to persist through the CC and removes the caster from danger after the CC is over is pretty OP.
22:54.30Antiarc|WorkFear's the only one in the game that does that.
22:54.34kebinusanAntiarc|Work: stun much?
22:54.43Antiarc|WorkOnce the stun breaks, the rogue's fair game.
22:54.51kebinusanand besides every class has ways out of fear
22:54.52Antiarc|WorkOnce fear breaks, the lock's got a 20+ yard buffer zone.
22:54.56kebinusanand double for undead
22:54.57NimbleRabitkebinusan: you can trinket stun
22:55.04kebinusanplus tremor totem pulses every second
22:55.09Antiarc|WorkFG intercept is also a fantastic stun counter.
22:55.12kebinusanso dont tell me there werent enough fear counters in the game
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22:55.37kebinusanand how about a spammable 30 yard interrupt with pvp gloves and deadly throw
22:55.41kebinusanthats real lovely too
22:55.48SarozWe've now deployed a hotfix that fixes the targeting of Gruul Hurtful Strike. The ability should now hit the second person on the threat list, and not the third.
22:55.52Antiarc|WorkDefine "spammable" please. :)
22:56.11Antiarc|WorkBecause, uh, it requires combo points, and the projectile travel time makes interrupting a spell reactively damn near impossible.
22:56.15pdpi60% probability to be able to do it twice in a row
22:56.17stavmarAntiarc|Work:  were you able to fix that error with Sanity, shoudl I be downloading a different one?
22:56.24pdpiprovided you're actually talented for it
22:56.26Antiarc|Workstavmar: Should have a trunk commit this evening.
22:56.29kebinusanpdpi:  exactly
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22:56.31pdpi(full disclosure: I'm a rogue)
22:56.32stavmarsweet, thanks
22:56.43Jumoorah ha, trinity bars is tainting frames
22:57.04Antiarc|WorkI'm aware of the ruth proc, but calculate the odds of being able to spam that.
22:57.06Antiarc|WorkIt ain't much.
22:57.14Antiarc|WorkPlus, it takes energy, which means you're waiting on ticks.
22:57.15hyperChipmunkrofl the new rog pvp glove effect is ludicrous
22:57.18pdpi60% chance to do it twice
22:57.24pdpi36% chance to do it 3 times
22:57.33pdpi21.6 percent chance to do it 4 times
22:57.34art3misalright who made wowonoid?
22:57.38hyperChipmunkthey gave hunters the same +4% to multishot >8\
22:57.41pdpiand 12% chance to do it 5 times
22:57.43art3misnow im never gonna get anything done
22:57.45pdpiwant me to go on?
22:57.53kebinusanpdpi, its still a 60% chance per time
22:58.03NimbleRabitso less than 40% chance to do it 3 times
22:58.05NimbleRabitis spammable?
22:58.08pdpiyes, provided you got the last one in
22:58.20Antiarc|Workkebinusan: The outcome of each subsequent DT depends on the outcome of the previous.
22:58.21NimbleRabitthe stupid thing has to travel through the air
22:58.27NimbleRabitmaking it effictively pointless against 1.5 second casts
22:58.28Antiarc|WorkThus, the chance is 60% of the previous chance.
22:58.34Antiarc|WorkWhat NimbleRabit said.
22:58.37Antiarc|WorkIt's not counterspell.
22:58.39Antiarc|WorkOr spell lock.
22:58.53hyperChipmunkboo hoo, it's a free lockout
22:58.55Antiarc|WorkYes, it's useful, but primarily for the slow.
22:59.04Antiarc|WorkYou have to catch someone casting to hit the lockout
22:59.12Antiarc|WorkUnless they're tossing down a pyroblast, that's hard as hell to actually do
22:59.14hyperChipmunkif it happens even just by luck, that's still huge
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22:59.24Antiarc|WorkSpeaking as someone that has a rather extensive amount of time actually using said gloves
22:59.25NimbleRabitit's a pretty good ability yeah
22:59.27NimbleRabitwhat's the point here?
22:59.38kebinusanAntiarc|Work: and fear had a pretty big chance to break on damage, your point being that was overpowered but this isnt?
22:59.38Jumoorso whats the favored bar mod these days?
22:59.43Antiarc|WorkIt's good, but it's not a HOLY CRAP ROGUES GET PERMASILENCE that some people tend to make it out to be.
22:59.51NightHawkTheSanethe point is everyone's a fucking martyr "boo hoo my class sucks", get over your damn selves :P
23:00.05hyperChipmunkAntiarc|Work: yea, but they DO get a new class ability on their gloves
23:00.23hyperChipmunkwhich is pretty significant
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23:00.29Antiarc|Workkebinusan: I wouldn't cry if they removed the bonus. Unlike locks who seem to be crying rather heavily at losing their fear durability :P
23:00.41hyperChipmunklike i said, all i get is a silly +4% to multishot damage
23:00.46hyperChipmunksame as level 60
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23:01.26Chompersgrrr, no king's defender from chess...again
23:01.28NimbleRabityeah rogues gloves are definitely one of the nicest
23:01.31NimbleRabitI was surprised when I read it
23:01.39Antiarc|WorkThat said, I do agree. The rogues get one of the better glove bonuses.
23:01.48NimbleRabitI got them so quick once I hit 70
23:01.54NimbleRabitI was very excited
23:01.59Antiarc|Workthough every other rogue PVP set bonus in existance sucks beyond belief.
23:02.09Antiarc|WorkWoo, minus 0.1 sec off of gouge! :V
23:02.18NimbleRabitlol
23:02.27NimbleRabitmy friend loves his druid gloves
23:02.30NimbleRabitI laugh at him every dya
23:02.32pdpiglove rogues offer a nice mechanic
23:02.46pdpibut it's not in anyway more imba than any given set bonus
23:02.58pdpiit's the same sort of power as the typical set bonus
23:03.02kebinusanYeah, I just love how rogues are the overpowered class in pvp. You can sap outside of detect/flare range.  You get the only PVP cc that doesnt diminish with itself or anything else... free 4 seconds of god mode against any caster
23:03.04hyperChipmunkno, but the point is it's really cool to get a new mechanic
23:03.10NimbleRabitNightHawkTheSane: anyways me and antiarc like the rogue class, we were jsut complaining about a few mechanic issues
23:03.26hyperChipmunkand i wish i could get a new mechanic with my gloves too =)
23:03.28kebinusanevery 60 seconds, as much as everyone bitches about deathcoil I cant use it twice a fight like cloak of shadows
23:03.29Antiarc|Workkebinusan: Haha, check out the composition of the top PVP teams.
23:03.32Antiarc|WorkAll paladins and warlocks.
23:03.34art3misat least you get something better than a "reduces the cost of gheal by 25 for 15 seconds" ;P
23:03.35Antiarc|WorkErr
23:03.38Antiarc|WorkPaladins adn warriors
23:03.41Antiarc|WorkWhich says something.
23:03.48hypetechanybody that uses Depot that can show me a screenshot of the bottom bar?
23:03.58NightHawkTheSaneNimbleRabit: yeah, I'm just really tired of 'x versus y' class mechanic discussions. They -invariably- end up with little more than people whining about how their class sucks, or some other class is overpowered, its childish and idiotic.
23:04.04pdpikebinusan, I think that in terms of overall power CloS is not above deathcoil
23:04.12NeoTronwarlocks aren't exactly high on the top tier 5-man arena teams
23:04.14hyperChipmunkoh, no, i totally destroy rogues; it isn't even funny
23:04.17hyperChipmunkdon't get me wrong =)
23:04.25kebinusanwarlocks get assist trained to death in half a second in 5v5
23:04.33Antiarc|WorkBecause they're dangerous left alone.
23:04.35NeoTronright
23:04.42hyperChipmunki take delicious pleasure in ripping rogues to pieces
23:04.45NeoTronbut that makes them sort of useless to
23:04.46Antiarc|WorkThey should also lern2stam/resilience if they're getting assist trained out of the gate
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23:04.54Antiarc|WorkBecause lock stamina pools have ridiculous potential
23:05.07hyperChipmunkthat being said, i still want a new mechanic on my pvp gloves =P
23:05.08Antiarc|WorkHigh-level arena play is all mitigation, not bursting down people before healers can respond.
23:05.13NeoTronbut with insanelty buffed stamina you still can't take an assist train and you do no dps either
23:05.24Kaeltensvn.wowace.com got stuck on a bad revision some how
23:05.25Antiarc|WorkSure you can. I've seen it happen quite a number of times.
23:06.16pdpiAntiarc, actually there are several viable high rating arena teams that go completely against what you're saying
23:06.16Kaeltenso I'm having to force update it
23:06.16pdpinamely, many european teams are basen on burst damage
23:06.16Antiarc|Workpdpi: The vast majority play sta/resil mitigation games, though
23:06.16Ominouskaelten: ping
23:06.16IndustrialKaelten: whats your opinion? We arent really getting anywhere with most forum posts on ace. more people need to tell what they think. that is Kaelten hyperChipmunk ckknight kergoth Tem (yesyou!) vhaarr  SunTiger etcetc
23:06.17Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6148.20
23:06.17Temhuh what?
23:06.17Ominouskaelten: bah i cant read dw about me
23:06.19pdpiAntiarc: I don't care if the vast majority plays flavour of the month. I care about "are non-FotM builds/setups viable?"
23:06.20*** join/#wowace Forteh (n=fupopo@c-71-194-15-18.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
23:06.23pdpiand the answer is "Yes"
23:06.43Industrialread, reply, be active and stuff :D?
23:06.53kebinusanPretty much what warlocks have to do to live more than half a second in arenas, be soul link with 300 resil and 12k unbuffed hp.... so nice to only be arena viable with 34 points in demonology
23:07.15Antiarc|WorkAnd rogues have to be quick recovery with as assload of stamina/resil to live, as well. *shrug*
23:07.26Antiarc|WorkWarriors and hunters rip rogues apart like nothin'
23:07.34NimbleRabitkebinusan: meh, if I'm seeing non soullink locks at 2k rating I think they are plenty viable
23:07.40Ominousrogues rip hunters if we get first move
23:07.41hyperChipmunkIndustrial: opinion on what?
23:07.41Eyes-tYo quick questions about pitbull
23:08.05Eyes-thow do i get raid targets to show up on my target UI
23:08.24pdpikebinusan, do you see any rogue without at least 20 points in combat in high level 5v5?
23:08.38hyperChipmunksorry, i don't read the forums
23:08.40Industrialthis http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5782.0 and this http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6148.0 mostly.
23:08.53pdpieither way, locks and priests are aggro magnets
23:09.03pdpithey're veritable PvP tanks, and should gear and build accordingly
23:09.13Antiarc|WorkYup.
23:09.15hyperChipmunkOminous: my rog strat is actually to let them get teh first shots
23:09.28hyperChipmunkafter about 10-15s they wear themselves out
23:09.36Ominousif they dont kil u in that time
23:09.50hyperChipmunkthey don't come remotely close
23:10.36Antiarc|WorkA hunter with decent sta and/or a healer is going to resist the opening stuns pretty easily.
23:10.46Antiarc|Workby resist I mean outlive. :)
23:10.51hyperChipmunkyea
23:11.01hyperChipmunk<-- 11/0/50 hunter
23:11.50hyperChipmunkimpossible to hit, and far too much sta to eat away within the opening flurry
23:11.57NimbleRabitwow I just lost to a hunter/rogue team T_T
23:12.01NimbleRabitembaressing
23:12.17hyperChipmunkadd in potentially two deterrences afterwards, and it's really just a mop-up
23:12.31Antiarc|Work41 combat rogues can chew through deterrence pretty easily
23:12.51Antiarc|WorkYou still have the parry to worry about, but you cut its effectiveness in half.
23:13.15hyperChipmunkwell, one parry means counterattack and you're done anyways >8p
23:13.22Antiarc|WorkBut yes. Hunters and I do not get along well. >:(
23:13.40Antiarc|WorkMostly because of chain trapping that you can't do jack about. Rrrrgh.
23:13.43hyperChipmunkmy mission in life is making rogue cry
23:14.17Antiarc|WorkIf a hunter drops a freezing and CloS isn't up and/or my ping isn't optimal, I'm basically boned.
23:14.19Antiarc|WorkI hates it, precious.
23:14.29Antiarc|WorkHooray for useless Disarm.
23:17.26NimbleRabitdoes anybody know of a mod that will help me keep track of a warriors stance?
23:17.34Antiarc|WorkWitchHunt, I guess?
23:17.40Antiarc|WorkThough that doesn't persist it
23:17.42NimbleRabitthat's what I have
23:17.48NimbleRabitbut I need something with a constant display
23:18.06NimbleRabitI just can't keep up with witchhunt while I'm busy fighting
23:18.39NimbleRabitI want to get saps up on them when I can, but it's so hard to tell if they are in berserk or combat =/
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23:19.56Antiarc|WorkYou could probably write a mod that just watched the combat log for stance-specific abilities, as well as switches
23:20.14Antiarc|WorkSo if a war uses WW, he's assumed to be in zerker stance until you see a stance change or a battle ability, for example
23:21.07Antiarc|WorkI might do that, actually.
23:21.20KinkxIs Fubar_HonorFu broken for anyone else?
23:21.25sag_ich_nichti am having a lua error without any addons loaded. can someone help me trace down the reason for this? :(
23:21.31sag_ich_nichtKinkx: yes, here
23:21.47hyperChipmunkTuller: that error i reported yesterday wasn't fixed by resetting stuff, btw
23:22.04nymbiasag_ich_nicht: it's in the blizzard code, macros that they didnt test etc
23:22.07hypetechanybody know where I can get the latest SW_Stats?
23:22.09TullerhyperChipmunk: you're running clearfont, rihgt?
23:22.11TullerhyperChipmunk: err right?
23:22.56sag_ich_nichtnymbia: yeah, obviously. i'd like to find out which of my macros is causing this though, since i don't even have to press any of them, just have to go into combat to cause the error
23:23.05Kaeltensylvanarr opened a can of worms
23:23.06Kaeltenlol
23:23.18nymbiasag_ich_nicht: maybe castsequence
23:23.32nymbiaKaelten: lol yeah
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23:23.49hyperChipmunkTuller: no
23:23.59NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: I would love if you wrote that
23:24.06hyperChipmunkit actually seems to happen when i open baggins the first time, for some reason
23:24.10Eyes-tHey guys, i have a question about pitbull unit frames
23:24.13hyperChipmunkmaybe item cooldown?
23:24.38TullerhyperChipmunk: probably, I'll look into it
23:24.52Eyes-tHow do i get targets charms to show up on the Unit frame
23:25.09CIA-2303funkydude * r36663 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: bugfix
23:25.20sag_ich_nichti'll copy a stacktrace of it to pastey
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23:25.35hyperChipmunkgood deal; it doesn't really do any harm, but it does pop an error, so it's nice to have those cleaned up, even if you just do a nil check or something
23:25.59nymbiaTem: i like your response ;)
23:26.03sag_ich_nichthttp://pastey.net/39099-ibjw
23:26.26TemIt was a yes or no question
23:26.37pdpiwoot woot woot! Spiteblade dropped! and it's mine! all mine!
23:26.43sag_ich_nichtgrats
23:27.48TullerhyperChipmunk: I reproduced it, hurray :)
23:28.33nymbiaTem: that's true.
23:29.12sag_ich_nichtso, looking at that stacktrace, does anyone have an idea what could cause this? :(
23:30.07TullerhyperChipmunk: definitely baggins related
23:30.21HjalteIs anyone else having problems with deucecommander?
23:31.07hyperChipmunkTuller: ah, nice =) glad i could help
23:31.37hyperChipmunki always liked Tekkub because he's so diplomatic
23:32.40TullerhyperChipmunk: except, the font is not nil, making this weirder
23:32.51sag_ich_nichtokay
23:32.52sag_ich_nichtfound it
23:32.53sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105750997&postId=1058517382&sid=1
23:33.10Tekkubdiplomatic, yet pissed off
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23:34.10hyperChipmunkTuller: i know that =p
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23:34.33hyperChipmunkthat's why i was so confoozled
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23:39.18Applesanyone know if fuXP will be updated? not sure if ppl work on that anymore.
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23:42.48Zerdesht|Avestarofl nerf oomkins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ0z7Lx0iAI
23:43.02kergothany rogues around that have pointers for me in pvp?  this is the first time i've pvp'd in like a year, i dunno wtf i'm doing
23:43.09kergothand i'm learning an n52 controller simultaniously as trying this arena..
23:43.14kergoth:)
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23:51.05Mikkhrmz... am i correct in assuming that as of 2.0 there's no way to make an addon that lets you use items in your inventory while the bank frame is open?
23:51.10kebinusanIf my focus target disappears from my view when he comes back in view he's no longer my focus target, is that new in 2.1 or a bug
23:51.33Mikkkebinusan: disappears from view as in runs too far away?
23:51.37Mikkthat's intended behavior
23:51.50NeoTronMikk: checked with the druid tank. she had up above 20k health, 24.4k armor and 50% dodge buffed last night
23:52.20MikkNeoTron: ebbeh
23:52.41Mikkok, fine, stick her under gruul =P
23:52.44NeoTronBoK, flask, Grace of Air, and so on
23:53.02NeoTronand commanding shout
23:53.04*** join/#wowace Duryn (n=Flash@adsl-69-225-38-47.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net)
23:53.09Mikkimp
23:53.13NeoTronand imp
23:53.18NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: I was thinking about it, if you really do want to write that addon perhaps you could convice the guy that makes gladiator or ckknight (pitbull) to implement that kind of functionality
23:53.19Mikkstill sounds bloody high to me
23:53.28evlwookiehow much mb/ram should baggins be using on avg ?
23:53.33NeoTronthat is what she had. I'll make sure she takes a screenshot tonight
23:54.17NimbleRabitso you guys know the shattrah guy that sells "amulets"
23:54.23NimbleRabitthat are pointless but nevertheless cost up to 36g
23:54.37Mikkyus?
23:54.43NimbleRabitthey put in a new mob next to him
23:54.47NimbleRabita draenei "Peacekeeper"
23:54.48NimbleRabitlol
23:54.53NimbleRabitgreat rp wise
23:55.01Mikkheh
23:55.32kebinusanmikk, its kinda annoying, before 2.1 if a mob was my focus target and came back in range they would still be my focus target :-(
23:55.44Kossih_[]_i cant get targetframes or change actionbar while in combat :X
23:56.50Mikkkebinusan: sounds like 2.1 "fixed" that rather than "broke" it
23:57.03Mikkunless we're talking a very short range here ofc
23:57.23Mikkfocus should disappear at the same time that a regular target selection should
23:57.39Mikkimo =)
23:59.43hyperChipmunkyea, i used to use focus as a free tracking mode

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