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00:01.49Wraangerbtw, Cladhaire ..newest revision of Clique gives an error on startup ...saying in line 23 number is complared to nil
00:02.04cladhaireshouldn't be in the newest
00:02.08cladhaireare you SURE you're on the latest rev?
00:02.48LePeR|Jauniaon ptr it gives the error.. some error at least
00:02.54cladhairenot the latest version
00:03.05cladhaireplease don't report bugs unless you check to see if the addon has been updated.. its easier for everyone that way
00:03.25Wraangeri have downloaded it from WoWI 15 minutes ago
00:03.30cladhaireokay, thanks.
00:03.58hyperChipmunkcladhaire: your addons all suck; i'm using the latest versions.  fix plz
00:04.01cladhairelooks like the wrong version got zipped.
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00:04.19Wraangerr81 it says
00:04.19LePeR|Jaunialol
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00:05.34TheKarnlol
00:05.36Kirkburncladhaire, I see you're picking up habits from #wowwiki. Kicks all round!
00:05.39cladhaireuploading now.
00:06.09KirkburnA day of #wowwiki isn't complete without at least 5 op kicks :P
00:06.44cladhaireuploaded
00:06.52TheKarnhmm ... why is it when i use "arg" in a function that has ... in it's input that it contains "Ace Initialization Complete"
00:07.00TheKarni'm following http://www.lua.org/pil/5.2.html
00:07.24hyperChipmunkuse argse = {...}
00:07.28hyperChipmunker
00:07.32hyperChipmunkarg = {...}
00:07.37hyperChipmunkas the first line of the function
00:07.40TheKarnk
00:07.47TheKarnis that something thats broken in Ace?
00:07.49TheKarnor LUA?
00:07.50WraangerMant thanks, Cladhaire .... My wife can't play without Clique .... and tbh, me too ))) <resto shaman here>
00:08.23cladhaireshould be fixed, lemme know if its not.
00:08.27hyperChipmunknot sure; but looks like ace has a global value of arg that does just that
00:08.33hyperChipmunkcuz it's the same for me too
00:08.36cladhaireLePeR|Jaunia: your issues were fixed this weekend
00:08.40hyperChipmunkthat's rather irresponsible
00:08.52TheKarnyup
00:09.04hyperChipmunki'm inclined to think that, although the problem seems to be a lua one, that's NOT the intended behavior for ace
00:09.14TheKarnyeah
00:09.25cladhaireit can't be a lua problem
00:09.38cladhairelua only uses the global variable arg when you are executing it from the commandline
00:09.43TheKarnand it throws off noobs (read: me) when trying to get to grips with lua's strangeness
00:09.44cladhairei.e. lua script.lua or ./script.lua
00:10.11LePeR|Jaunia:)
00:10.26hyperChipmunki mean, it's not an ace problem, per se
00:10.46cladhairewhat else woudl it be?
00:10.51cladhaireCosmos surely isn't setting it :P
00:10.56hyperChipmunkHIS problem isn't a result of ace, but it's still bad ace behavior
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00:11.07cladhairecorrect :P
00:11.42vhaarrI don't think Ace2 sets any global 'arg' variable
00:12.00nymbiai dont have one set
00:12.06WraangerCladhaire - seems fixed
00:12.10vhaarrare you talking about Ace1?
00:12.11cladhaireTheKarn: ... no longer makes a local variable called arg, look at the usage of select, etc.
00:12.20Wraangerjust loaded up and no errors popped
00:12.21hyperChipmunknow it's changed to another table
00:12.22XuerianArg is depricated :D
00:12.28cladhaireits not a table
00:12.30Xuerian... is a tuple >_>
00:12.34cladhaireits a immutable tuple
00:12.43cladhairethe only one that exists in lua *sad face*
00:12.44TheKarnso how do i use it then?
00:12.51XuerianIt's just like a function that returns multiple values
00:12.52cladhaireread thelua manual
00:12.54XuerianTreat it as such
00:12.57hyperChipmunki mean, my value of 'arg' isn't the ace message anymore
00:13.03harldephinhow do i find out whether a specific SAL is actually being used by any add-on or not ?
00:13.24Funkeh`disable them all in the addons menu
00:13.25StylpeHaha, just looked at my old code in Visor. I can't believe I came up with that stuff!
00:13.33nymbiaharldephin: IsAddOnLoaded()
00:13.35Funkeh`the ones needed will be forcably loaded
00:13.44Kaydeethreeoh btw... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104606134&postId=1042504512&sid=1
00:13.44hyperChipmunkheh, always a humbling experience
00:13.47cladhaireTheKarn: function(...) for i=1,select("#", ...) do print(select(i, ..)) end
00:13.47Funkeh`just don't disable ParserLib
00:13.49Kaydeethreejoy, extended maintenence
00:13.57Funkeh`and ACe2
00:14.10hyperChipmunkjoy, hardware upgrade though
00:14.15cladhaireTheKarn: Also, function(...) x,y,z = ... end
00:14.37Kaydeethreeif it was anything like the first round I expect we'll be even more unstable
00:15.13Funkeh`sylvanaar: ping
00:16.53harldephinFunkeh`: wouldn't that render add-ons using that library dysfunctioning, since i always update my add-ons without externals.
00:17.04Funkeh`no
00:17.12Funkeh`AceLibrary wil auto tick the ones needed
00:17.23Funkeh`but like i said don't untick Ace2 and ParserLib
00:18.30hyperChipmunkTheKarn: you use it just like i said; put a  local arg = {...}  at the top of your function
00:18.40cladhairehyperChipmunk: thats a very bad idea.
00:18.45cladhaireand defeats the entire purpose of ...
00:19.13hyperChipmunkif he wants to replicate the functionality, seems to me like the best way
00:19.19cladhaireyes, it will work
00:19.21cladhaireyes, its a bad idea.
00:19.32cladhairelearning how to use it correctly is a better idea, since if gives you direct access to the values on the stack
00:19.37cladhairerather than instantiating a new table every single time.
00:20.02TheKarncladhaire, dont worry i've done it the "correct" way
00:20.11TheKarnas i thought the {...} was going to be inefficient
00:20.32hyperChipmunki use it a few times in bulkmail, actually; i do plan on optimizing, but right now i just want it to work =p
00:20.44harldephinFunkeh`: so if i'm experiencing unexpected behaviour with a specific library, having that behaviour disappear by disabling that specific library, would prove that no add-on is actually using that add-on and i could as well leave it disabled by default. right ?
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00:22.27cladhairehyperChipmunk: that makes baby clad cry
00:23.04break19anyone else been having issues with onebank not working? when I visit a banker, I get the regular bank frame.. not onebank, but it's loaded, with no errors in the bugsack.
00:23.25Kaydeethreebuild I've been using is fine. you sure it's enabled at char select?
00:23.52Funkeh`harldephin: no, if you disable all the libraries apart from ace2 and parsserlib, log in and log out, the ones unticked are the ones you don't use, the ones ticked are the ones you do
00:24.04break19Kaydeethree: yea. it's loaded. that was the first thing i checked
00:24.14Funkeh`harldephin: but it doesn't matter since all libraries are LOD and only load when needed
00:24.16hyperChipmunktough; deal with it for another few days
00:24.51hyperChipmunkmaybe i'll fix it tonight, but only because you're a whining baby
00:29.20harldephinFunkeh`: that's what i just meant. i disable that specific library and log in, nothing's changed except the unexpected behaviour is gone, log out and the library is still unticked. you say it's LOD but why is it causing dysfunctionality when it's not needed by any add-on (which would be proven that way by it being still unticked -> library unneeded. it's still loaded though, or it wouldn't cause dysfunction.) etc
00:30.05Funkeh`no its not laoded
00:30.08Funkeh`its jsut not ticked
00:30.22harldephinof course it's not being loaded when i untick it.
00:30.25Funkeh`install any useless library you want
00:30.28Funkeh`that you don't use
00:30.36Funkeh`whether or not its ticked makes no difference
00:30.39Funkeh`it still won't load
00:30.52Funkeh`its not being loaded when you tick it either
00:30.59Funkeh`hence Load On Demand
00:30.59harldephinyea, but it does, otherwise it wouldn't cause dysfunction when it's ticked
00:31.25XuerianNot being ticked has no impact on Ace2 libraries so long as Ace2 itself is enabled
00:31.25XuerianThey will automatically enable on demand
00:31.25nymbiait won't load if it's ticked
00:31.26nymbiaunless it's requested by an addon
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00:31.38XuerianIt'll load ticked or not if found when requested
00:31.52Funkeh`<Funkeh`>whether or not its ticked makes no difference
00:31.56harldephin"Lib: uiQuery" is interfering with FluidFrames
00:32.13TheKarnKaelten, you broke something!
00:32.16harldephinthat's all i know for sure
00:32.21Kaeltenhrm?
00:32.23XuerianWhich was first, FF or uiQ?
00:32.33TheKarnKaelten, <harldephin> "Lib: uiQuery" is interfering with FluidFrames
00:32.43KaeltenFluidFrames?
00:32.54harldephinXuerian: i don't know. FluidFrames is part of cosmos
00:33.11Kaeltenwhats the bug?
00:33.13harldephinsince about 3 weeks ago or whatever
00:33.18Xuerianharldephin: Which raises the question, what do you need in Cosmos? Ace2 and Cosmos are pretty much eachother's antithesis
00:33.32Kaeltenlol, enough of that xue
00:33.39XuerianHey, i didn't say which was better
00:33.42Kaelten:P
00:33.54harldephinthe bug is, when i move the GossipFrame, it looses the text of its text frame
00:34.22Kaeltenhow the hell does that have anything to do with uiQuery?
00:34.49Funkeh`im pondering whether we should update adon toc's now to reduce server load tomorow
00:34.51Kaeltennot saying I'm doubting you
00:35.00Kaeltenbut its just odd
00:35.05harldephini didn't say i like cosmos. FluidFrames and BetterKeyBindings are the only 2 parts of cosmos i use and they're not depending on any other cosmos stuff
00:35.05Kaeltenis the patch definately tommorrow?
00:35.09Funkeh`yes
00:35.22Kaelten100%?
00:35.25Kaydeethreeyes
00:35.25nymbiaKaelten: obviously you're sabatoging cosmos inadvertently.
00:35.28nymbia;)
00:35.31Kaydeethreeextended maint tomorrow
00:35.32Funkeh`yes 100%
00:35.36Kaydeethreeon a rolling-restart week
00:35.37Funkeh`tigole sayd so
00:35.48Kaydeethreedrysc's got a sticky in general, I linked it earlier
00:35.52Xuerianharldephin: What does FluidFrames do anyway?
00:36.01Kaydeethree<Kaydeethree> oh btw... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104606134&postId=1042504512&sid=1
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00:37.47XuerianOn a side note, if you're in the USA, vote Gravel or Ron Paul >_<
00:37.56harldephinXuerian: it makes blizzzard frames movable and resizable (which is what KC_Mobility should do, Visor2 does (partly) and MobileFrames (predecessor to FF) did before)
00:38.37harldephinit makes any other frame movable as well
00:38.46NimbleRabit() inside of () is uncool
00:38.50harldephinbut that's not too wise to do
00:38.59harldephinNimbleRabit: d'uh!
00:39.00Xuerianharldephin: I don't see how uiquery could interfere with that, it's a wrapper to interacting with ui objects, but that's just a observation
00:39.31nymbiaposting an error might get you slightly more helpful insight
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00:40.37harldephinXuerian : i don't know what it's got to do with it, i just narrowed the error to FluidFrames, then found out it's not FF alone (after moving sub-frames of GossipFrame) and disabled add-ons I (presumable) think to have anything to do with "frames" one by one and stopped at uiQuery, since the unexpected behaviour has stopped completely.
00:40.40Borked|Raiderhttp://img517.imageshack.us/img517/230/raidertoollootwindow1bs3.jpg anyone know how make so when ctrl is hold then the cursor change the dresswindow loop cursor?
00:41.40XuerianBorked|Raider: Instead of re-writing the whole thing, do you want to look at XLoot 1.0? You can make your own display window ontop of the core with that, and it handles all the rest
00:41.43harldephinand what i wondered now is if any add-on i've got needs uiQuery at all
00:42.30Kaeltennot sure its a library
00:42.35Kaeltenand should have no impact in and of itself
00:42.52Borked|Raiderxuerian, hmm well i am not rewrting that much or well its already done. I just need the cursor thing, and then unregister the normal LootFrame
00:43.27Kaeltenharldephin: whats wrong with KC_Mobility :)?
00:43.36Kaeltenso far you're picking on me!
00:43.36Kaelten:P
00:44.29harldephinit's just incomplete, that's all. i've got it in my list since its one of the add-ons for me to try out from time to time.
00:44.36XuerianBorked|Raider: As for unregistering the normal lootframe, http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/XLoot/XLoot1.0/XLoot.lua -- function XLoot:OnEnable()
00:44.46Borked|Raideri know that
00:44.52Borked|Raiderjust saying thats what i am doing
00:44.57XuerianOh :p
00:45.10XuerianWell, I'm not sure how to change the cursor icon, I never really looked into it
00:45.11Borked|Raiderbut i cant figuer out how to make the cursor do like i want :)
00:45.20Borked|Raiderdo xloot do it?
00:45.27Borked|Raiderwhen ctrl hold over an item?
00:45.37XuerianBorked|Raider: Not intentionally, though you can certainly try on/link with normal modifiers
00:46.15Xuerianhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetCursor should have what you want
00:46.34Xuerianhah http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ShowInspectCursor
00:46.58Borked|Raiderahh
00:47.18XuerianBorked|Raider: I'd look at the framexml for items that DO do that
00:47.25Xuerianblizzard obviously does it
00:47.40harldephinKaelten: i'm not on to derogate your work on KC_Mobility by any means, but i was looking for alternatives long ago, found MobileFrames and then switched to FluidFrames when they did.
00:47.48Borked|Raiderbeen looking at setCursor but could not find anything about setting the cursor i wanted
00:48.04Borked|Raidergotta try the ShowInspectCursor
00:48.09XuerianResetCursor() after that
00:48.32Kaeltenhehe I'm just giving you a hard time :P
00:48.37Borked|Raidergot alot of resetcursors already, just looked at code for LootFrame
00:48.50KaeltenKC_Mobility has a very simplistic framework, and doesn't have all the features as soom of the others
00:48.52Kaeltenbut its neat
00:48.52Borked|Raiderbut the ShowInspectCursor wasent used in it
00:49.51TheKarnWoW should have some protection against infinite loops
00:50.52XuerianBorked|Raider: Well, do tell if you figure out how to do it :)
00:51.09Borked|Raiderwill do
00:52.56Diaowhat addon is that borked o_O
00:53.05Diaolooks shiny
00:53.10Borked|Raidera part of my dkp addon
00:53.16Diaoah
00:53.21Diaoterrokar huh
00:53.22HjalteHmm. WUU downloads the addons now even when only the libraries have been updated... That must give quite a high server load? I update several times a day and now it downloads several of my addons each time.
00:53.38Borked|Raiderye testing while coding :p
00:53.39Diao;p
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00:56.06aen`whats the name of the mod that altclicks to add item
00:56.35NimbleRabitHjalte: probably a good thing that I can't get WUU to open then
00:57.41Diaoaltclicktoadditem?
00:57.58Diaoliterally
00:58.41Gokielol, such a wonderfully named addon
00:58.56XuerianHas anyone done a "Modclick to delete" addon?
00:58.59XuerianIs it even possible.
00:59.15aen`i dont see it on the svn
00:59.25Diaohttp://files.wowace.com/
00:59.29DiaoAltClickToAddItem
00:59.31Diaois what it is called
00:59.44Borked|Raidericon:SetHighlightTexture("Interface\\Buttons\\ButtonHilight-Square");
00:59.45Borked|Raidericon:SetPushedTexture("Interface\\Buttons\\UI-Quickslot-Depress");
00:59.48aen`ah im retarded
00:59.51Borked|Raiderthe highlight works as it should
00:59.51aen`i was looking Add
01:00.00Borked|Raiderbut hte pushed is removing the oldtexture :/
01:00.03StylpeYay, I crashed WoW!
01:00.09Diaowell Xuerian there are autodelete item from inventory mods
01:00.14Diaoso modclick to delete should be possible?
01:00.16Borked|Raiderhow do i blend em
01:00.18XuerianI guess
01:00.19CIA-23ow
01:00.30XuerianBorked|Raider: Use ItemButtonTemplate
01:00.48XuerianOr well no
01:00.50nymbiayeah who broke CIA-23
01:01.07NightHawkTheSanethe bad men didn't mean it.
01:01.45KaeltenI broke CIA
01:01.57Kaeltenhe was lagging to all hell and slowing the commits down
01:02.10Kaeltenback logged a few hours
01:02.42XuerianBorked|Raider: <HighlightTexture file="Interface\Buttons\ButtonHilight-Square" alphaMode="ADD"/>
01:02.42XuerianBorked|Raider: Set it to ADD
01:02.47Borked|Raiderye
01:02.48Borked|Raiderbut
01:02.54Borked|Raideri am not doign it in xml
01:03.07Borked|Raiderbut think i am figuering it out
01:03.17XuerianThat's the beauty of the lua api, there's a mirror for it all :P
01:03.35Funkeh`Kaelten: CIA is running again, give CIA bot back!
01:03.49XuerianBorked|Raider: SetBlendMode
01:03.57Borked|Raiderye
01:05.18NimbleRabitthe alias module of prat
01:05.22NimbleRabitis such a beautiful thing
01:05.54GokieI keep telling myself that I need to get around to configure and using it, but always forget XD
01:06.28Kaeltencia is back on if he's willing
01:06.32NimbleRabitbest part of the thing
01:06.38NimbleRabitis you can use it to make tradespams with item links
01:06.47Kaeltenplease everyone update to wau 1.8
01:06.59KaeltenIf I need to tommorow I will disable 1.7 during the patch day rush
01:07.11Funkeh`haha
01:07.14Funkeh`that will orkc
01:07.24Funkeh`wtf my addons don't update wtf flood forums forums go down
01:07.30Kaeltenlmao
01:08.04Kaeltenna I'll give it the ability to display that there is a 1.8 update that is required
01:08.14Funkeh`good idea
01:08.17Kaeltenbut thats about it
01:08.26Gokiethere's one thing about WAU... is it possible to add an option to disable auto-scrolling of the message window?
01:08.38Kaeltennope
01:08.42Gokie=(
01:08.50Funkeh`well im just hoping .21 is done
01:09.03GokieIt makes it kinda annoying when you're going through the update log and trying to check all the changelogs
01:09.07Funkeh`posted like 8 updated for 1.8 cba updating it every day like this :p
01:09.19NimbleRabitwoah there is a changelog link in wuu now
01:09.19NimbleRabitawesomesauce
01:09.29ZealotOnAStickKaelten, wiki still references and links to 1.7
01:09.41KaeltenZealotOnAStick: update it please :)
01:09.42Funkeh`oh 1 thing
01:09.50ZealotOnAStickin raid right now.
01:09.51Funkeh`you _need_ to update the sf.net news page
01:10.00Gokieit is updated I think
01:10.02Funkeh`people are checking it, seeing 1.7 and leaving
01:10.11Funkeh`oh?
01:10.14harldephinKaelten: well, one step at a time, right? - i guess that things like that could rather.. bloat an overall add-on, but.. it'd be pretty nice for an actual instance, if KC_Mobility could automatically save the current changes it does to the frames and have any frames of the same name reposition when opening.
01:10.23rubikso wait.. is 2.1 out tomorrow for sure?
01:10.30rubiki thought 'no' because ptr was still up today?
01:10.37Gagorianwell according to devs
01:10.39Funkeh`oh cool
01:10.43Funkeh`nvm then
01:10.59Kaeltenharldephin: ya but right now I have stuff ahead of it
01:11.02Kaeltenbut it would be nice
01:11.47Kaeltenwell guys I'm heading home
01:11.48Kaelteng'night
01:11.53Funkeh`nn
01:11.56harldephinnite
01:11.57KaeltenI might be back on in a bit
01:11.59Kaeltenbut not sure
01:12.08Funkeh`ok
01:12.48CIA-2303funkydude * r36182 10BigWigs/ (10 files in 9 dirs): BigWigs: toc > 20100
01:12.59Funkeh`works!
01:13.40GagorianYay.
01:13.49GagorianJust missed my 2.1.0 commit :(
01:13.55Funkeh`aww
01:14.24TheKarnhttp://ace.pastey.net/37438 is that an acceptable use of ... ?
01:14.52Gagorianseems so
01:15.58Gagorianif it's nil it will explode though
01:16.20TheKarnhmm?
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01:16.31Gagoriannvm.
01:16.42Gagorian4:20 am!
01:16.50Kaydeethreefun time
01:18.12CIA-2303cryect * r36183 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Fixed a bug for the graph window where data sets that needed to be sparsened weren't being windowed by the time chosen.
01:19.26aen`shit, does nquestlog have / commands?
01:19.38ZealotOnAStickwhat does "UpgradeSettings" in WAU 1.8.21 do?  It's not documented in the readme.
01:19.45ZealotOnAStick~seen Cryect
01:20.18purlcryect is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 66 messages. Is idling for 2h 32m 17s, last said: 'hyperChipmunk: Prolly has something to do with Kalgan stating they are a while back'.
01:20.18StylpeWhat's the token for string.format to get a specific input argument? I know some global strings use it, I just don't remember the syntax
01:20.18CIA-2303hyperactiveChipmunk * r36184 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua:
01:20.18CIA-23BulkMail2:
01:20.18CIA-23- fixed using Enter to accept the New Destination popup box
01:20.32ZealotOnAStickCryect: ping
01:20.33Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: i think its to keep your settings when you update wau
01:20.53Cryectlooking for me?
01:20.57vhaarrStylpe: string.format(str, arg1, arg2, ...) ?
01:21.05NimbleRabitso, I'm to lazy to go find the forum post
01:21.10NimbleRabithow often is tattle data updated
01:21.16Stylpevhaarr: I think you misunderstood
01:21.59vhaarrStylpe: %s is string, %d is number?
01:22.03StylpeIt's like %s, only it gets a specific arg. Think it's like %_2s or something
01:22.52vhaarr$1 ?
01:23.19Borked|Raider%s is one sign
01:23.23KemayohyperChipmunk: Mind if I commit a removal of the {...} stuff in BulkMail2?
01:23.29Borked|Raider(%s)+ is a world
01:23.30Borked|Raiderword
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01:24.16StylpeNo, that's for gsub
01:24.48Borked|Raiderye, sorry
01:24.57StylpeAh, here we go: %2$s
01:25.03Stylpe(for the second arg)
01:25.26StylpeAw bummer, didn't work
01:25.38Stylpefound that in an old globalstrings.lua
01:27.59hyperChipmunkKemayo: not at all
01:28.17harldephinZealotOnAStick: from my understanding, UpgradeSettings is meant to upgrade an existing settings file from an older version of WAU, since its sets to false again when WAU is started. but then i don't know what it's actually upgrading there.
01:28.36harldephinset
01:31.04JagobahFirst there is water, then it looks for the mother, which is Silika, and it always is in geothermical activity, volcanoes... where there's pressure and a lot of heat.  This creates and forms a quartz crystal in six sides.  It grows right-handed, and left-handed, according to the mother's face, it has positive and negative qualities on each of its faces, so that's where we can have our modern radios, televisions, uhh computers, watches,
01:31.12Jagobah=]
01:31.41ZealotOnAStickBah, Kaelten left.
01:31.42vhaarrStylpe: I'm pretty sure %1$s is right
01:32.03ZealotOnAStickWhat's the massive important improvement on WAU 1.8.21 over 1.7.x for tomorrow?  It doesn't look like it's the new wonder java WAU yet.
01:32.16StylpeYeah, me too, but didn't work
01:32.16vhaarrIt reads latest.xml
01:32.30vhaarrStylpe: Define "didn't work", pastey your code?
01:32.50StylpeDidn't show the right argument
01:33.03vhaarrZealotOnAStick: The old "latest.txt" stuff is being removed soon, so 1.8.x reads latest.xml instead.
01:33.06StylpeCode's all over the place, not good for pasteying
01:33.57vhaarrStylpe: /print string.format("%2$s is a %1$s", "foo", "bar") works fine here.
01:34.06harldephinZealotOnAStick: at least it's pretty much faster at updating the add-ons. and it's got a progress bar at the bottom. yea. :)
01:34.32KirkburnI am like completely stunned ... Rickroll was on Family Guy last night ...
01:34.37StylpeBasically, I'm doing h:SetHyperlinkFormat("|cffff9900%2$s|r") because it seems like the format gets passed the href first and the text between the tags second
01:34.51Stylpebut it doesn't show up like it's supposed to
01:35.25ZealotOnAStickAhh.  So, does that have a significant impact on server load?
01:35.25Stylpeh:SetHyperlinkFormat("|cffff9900%s%s|r") works as expected, but is not what I want
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01:35.57Stylpe(h is a SimpleHTML frame)
01:36.29vhaarrwell, /print string.format("%2$s", "foo", "bar") works fine as well
01:37.00StylpeWell, I'll just have to work around it.
01:40.23harldephinhm. my neighbour's playing starcraft again. i can hear his units' audio responses. that guy must be deaf or something.
01:40.38Xuerianhaha.
01:40.44NimbleRabitdoes anyone know how often tattle data is updated
01:40.46NimbleRabitI can't find it on the forums
01:43.48ZealotOnAStickI believe it was supposed to be weekly.
01:44.26sbuwah
01:44.37sbunymbia: quartz buff/debuff duration on 2.1 rocks!!!!
01:48.46CIA-2303kemayo * r36185 10BulkMail2/ (. BulkMail.lua):
01:48.46CIA-23BulkMail2:
01:48.46CIA-23- Fix the "as add" validate function.
01:48.46CIA-23- Get rid of {...}.
01:49.31KemayohyperChipmunk: I like the new gui stuff, by the way. :D
01:49.32NimbleRabitI love that it's on files.wowace now
01:51.05Gngskpraise for BM2!
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01:51.48hyperChipmunk>8D
01:52.24StylpeRight, final task for the day: How do I make the hyperlinks in a SimpleHTML frame actually clickable?
01:52.51NimbleRabitis using the neutral ah to get somethign to a friend from horde to alliance legit?  I somehow feel like I'm breaking a rule..
01:53.15CIA-2303gandharva * r36186 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua:
01:53.15CIA-23Mendeleev:
01:53.15CIA-23- show correct version
01:53.15kergothpeople do it all the time.. dont think there's a rule against it
01:53.37art3misi think the only "sorta" rule is about giving stuff from yourself to yourself
01:53.45art3misbut even thats not a big deal
01:54.01NimbleRabitmeh, goood
01:54.05art3misopposite faction that is
01:54.14hyperChipmunkthat's why the neut AHs have such a gigantic cost
01:54.19art3missince you obviously can give stuff to same faction alts
01:54.23hyperChipmunkthey rob you blind
01:54.34kergoththats why i never transfer cash
01:54.50kergothi go for long shot low bids on the opposite ah, transfer what i've acquired, and resell on the opposite side
01:55.29art3misi wonder if they ever fixed that buy opposite faction mounts from the shadowmoon vendors with mc
01:55.34kergothjust need to have good timing, dont want to leave your goods up on the neutral for  long at a buyout of 1s
01:55.36kergothor whatever
01:56.04art3missicne the flyers have no faction req
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01:57.40hyperChipmunki can go try it
01:58.05harldephinyou may have a good friend on the opposite faction to virtually finish the transfer of an item in no time, but they've better got to be someone you can give a phone call (or whatever). it's faster than logging in and out
01:59.35XuerianWow. Pretty good heroes conclusion 0.o
01:59.46NimbleRabityou...don't talk...
01:59.51TheKarnshh Xuerian
01:59.54harldephinhehe
02:00.04XuerianI just said it was good! Why are you people jumping on me!
02:00.05XuerianXD
02:00.20TheKarndoes it leave room for another series?
02:00.21harldephinjust a precaution :p
02:00.26NimbleRabitbecause you've set my expectations high
02:00.29NimbleRabitand now I'll feel let down
02:00.30harldephinheh
02:01.12kebinusanwow they made opening a ticket a protected function that is completely lame
02:02.41vhaarrindeed
02:03.28Funkeh`not really
02:03.35kebinusan<PROTECTED>
02:03.37Funkeh`they did it completely because of spamsentry
02:03.43Funkeh`and with good reason
02:03.48kebinusanFunkeh`: no good reason
02:03.52Funkeh`they want to control spam themselves, not have addons do it
02:04.07NimbleRabitI don't bother reporting with spam sentry anymore
02:04.10NimbleRabit4 at a time isnot enough
02:04.21NimbleRabitI get at least 6 by the time they get to my ticket
02:04.23Funkeh`you have not tried ptr?
02:04.29Funkeh`you jsut right click a name and click report
02:04.34Funkeh`no ticket or anything
02:04.36kebinusanThe fact that people needed an automated way to report spammers is their fault for not dealing with the issue... and the fact that it increased the work load on the GM's again is just something that should have made them deal with the proglem sooner
02:04.41Funkeh`no small mail
02:04.45Funkeh`no whisper
02:04.49NimbleRabitcool
02:04.52kebinusanprobably gets routed to /dev/null
02:05.19CIA-2303funkydude * r36187 10LittleWigs/ (5 files in 5 dirs): LittleWigs: toc > 20100
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02:06.07ulicthanks Funkeh`
02:07.21CIA-2303xuerian * r36190 10AnchorsAway/AnchorsAway.toc: AnchorsAway: Updated toc.
02:07.37Funkeh`vhaarr: how will buggrabber work in 2.1? afaik error messages are off by default?
02:08.22art3mishrm
02:08.27art3mispoor kaekl
02:08.28art3miskael
02:08.34art3mispoor wowace.com
02:08.45art3misif the patch happens its gonna get slammed
02:09.17vhaarrFunkeh`: It will work.
02:09.29nymbiaFunkeh`: it's implemented in the blizzard error function, so errors will still always make it to buggrabber
02:09.38Funkeh`ah
02:09.58Funkeh`you might want to disable the error frame hiding stuf fthen
02:10.07Funkeh`since if they turn it on in the menu, they most likely want it
02:10.09NimbleRabitis it still possible to join trade, general, etc. from outside the city
02:10.23art3misnot since they linked the cities i don't think
02:10.24Funkeh`yes
02:10.29art3misoh is it?
02:10.35Funkeh`they are treated as custom channels
02:10.39Funkeh`you can join them anywhere
02:10.46ulicis BW_Debugger > Transcriptor for use with BW/LW?  I would assume so, since it does all and more.
02:10.47art3misi thought that changed in 2.0 with flyers
02:10.51Funkeh`you can even do /chatwho and see whos in it
02:10.53art3mischanged/got fixed
02:10.56XuerianStill as buggy as it used to be?
02:11.09Xuerian(Joining those channels outside their zones)
02:11.24NimbleRabithow do I do it
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02:11.33Funkeh`ulic debugger catches more than just combat log events, which is why i prefer it
02:11.48Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
02:12.09Funkeh`like /join General-Shattrath
02:12.10Funkeh`i think
02:12.16Funkeh`can't remember the name
02:12.24NimbleRabityeah, doesn't work..
02:12.27Funkeh`it does
02:12.29NimbleRabitT_T
02:12.30Funkeh`thats how bots do it
02:12.36NimbleRabitI tried just now
02:12.40Funkeh`you need the exact name
02:13.06hyperChipmunk[You] Gnomish Mind Control Cap immune [Dama Wildmane]
02:13.24Funkeh`pwnd
02:13.24hyperChipmunkso, yea, it's fixed
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02:13.57Funkeh`hey ckknight
02:14.21ckknighthey all
02:14.23ckknightdo we have a confirmation on 2.1 yet?
02:14.41hyperChipmunkyes
02:14.44hyperChipmunktomorrow
02:14.46ckknightokay
02:14.51ulicso says tigole
02:14.54ckknightgonna hax my addons tonight, then
02:15.05Funkeh`hax?
02:15.06ckknightchange tocs, remove all backwards compatibility stuff
02:15.17Funkeh`i wouldn't remove the compa'ts yet :p
02:15.24ckknightwhich means that Europeans should _NOT_ use the SVN for 2 days
02:15.26ckknightfuck that, Funkeh`
02:15.32Funkeh`im a european
02:15.34Funkeh`and you suck
02:15.34ckknightonly the Europeans suffer
02:15.39ckknightand they smell like cheese anyway
02:15.42ckknightso no big loss
02:15.43Funkeh`why?
02:15.49Funkeh`how long till US shutdown?
02:15.55NimbleRabitFunkeh`: yeah I can't seem to do it.  oh well
02:16.11Funkeh`NimbleRabit: not really sure, i know its doable, can't say ive tried it before
02:16.16XuerianBahahaha
02:16.19Xuerianhttp://www.wowhead.com/ has a movie now
02:16.23NimbleRabityeah
02:16.25NimbleRabitit's awesome
02:16.26nymbiaFunkeh`: 7.75 hours
02:16.51Funkeh`thats still quite a while
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02:17.09Cryectgood because I plan to be coding that long!
02:17.14Cryectwell not that long :-p
02:17.19Cryectsun be up again
02:17.51Funkeh`we have jsut under 24 hours till shutdown
02:19.51vhaarrimba day for television, 2x 24 and new heroes
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02:21.16StylpeAnyone know a good tool for dumping a table?
02:21.17CIA-2303fenlis * r36191 10DrDamage/ItemSets.lua:
02:21.17CIA-23DrDamage:
02:21.17CIA-23- Fixed localization armorSetsKR
02:21.40vhaarrStylpe: /print <table>
02:21.59StylpeI mean in WoW
02:22.04vhaarryeah
02:22.20Cryectif you got Ace2 installed yeah
02:22.20Stylpewithin lua
02:22.22vhaarrthat is with AceConsole-2.0 available, of course
02:22.29vhaarrthis is #wowace, after all
02:22.38Cryectthen do Addon:Print(table)
02:22.47Cryectassuming you registered with aceconsole
02:22.52vhaarr:PrintLiteral is the /print equivalent
02:23.03StylpeDon't have an Ace addon, but have Ace2 and all libs installed
02:23.09vhaarrshould be fine, then
02:23.12StylpeCan I do Ace2:Print?
02:23.23vhaarrAceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(obj)
02:23.26vhaarrthat works
02:23.47vhaarrwill dump the table to ChatFrame1/DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME, I don't remember which.
02:26.24TainGah is there anything else out there better than Postal for mail addons?
02:26.38StylpeThat helped immensely! Thanks
02:26.47vhaarrno problem
02:26.59vhaarrTain: hC's BulkMail2 is coming along nicely, but depends what you need
02:27.21kergothexpressmail and prioritymail work well if your needs are more basic
02:27.26kergothi use expressmail and bulkmail2 myself
02:27.53TainI liked Bulkmail.  I haven't tried it in a while since it was reliant on AceGUI
02:28.11vhaarrit uses a tablet now instead of acegui
02:28.12Diaodoes bulkmail have a gui like ctmailmod did?
02:28.20Diaoi haven't tried bulkmail in months
02:28.23kergothit has a less limited gui
02:28.26TainReally I just want something that collects mail money and items.
02:28.27kergothno fixed # of item slots
02:28.37Diaoah
02:28.38kergothexpressmail lets you shift click to loot the mail, alt click to return
02:28.39kergoththats enough for me
02:28.44kergothon that end, anyway
02:28.48Diaodoes any mod have the function of postman
02:28.55Diaothat tracks time until mail is senta?
02:28.58Diaosent*
02:29.00kergothMailInfo does
02:29.09Diaoi feel like just using 1 mod for all my mailing needs :(
02:29.15kergothand itll warn you if things are going to expire and all
02:29.22TainI guess I want the functionality of the first addon I ever wrote, AH_MailCollect.  Maybe I need to just stop whining and do it myself.
02:29.55kergothi dunno, i never saw the point in a 'loot all' button for the mailbox, 90% of the time i have no idea how many pages of crap is in there, much less whether i have the inventory for it all :P
02:29.59Diaolol
02:30.04Diaoi rarely have more than 3 pages at once
02:30.09CryectLoot all buttons are bad
02:30.13kergothmy bank was at 10 pages last time i looked
02:30.13TainMine is mostly money.
02:30.18TainLoot all is mandatory.
02:30.32Cryecthaha I've acciden tly opened all real mails with messages in them that have been sent to me via those
02:30.33kergothi dont know of any loot all functionality outside of an addon like postal
02:30.40Diaolol
02:30.44vhaarrPostals "Open all" functionality is seriously flawed.
02:30.46Diaoi like the "select these with checkboxes and loot these"
02:30.49Diaofrom ctmailmod
02:30.54Diaoany ace addon have that yet? :x
02:30.56Taingah
02:31.01vhaarrpostal has that
02:31.03kergothDiao, thing is, thats more clicks than just a 'shift click to loot' mod is
02:31.16StylpeI'm so frickin close to completing this now. Making a mod that parses a guide, fixes it up and adds clickable coordinates to add waypoints, plus quest name coloring by completion
02:31.17kergothclick 5, or click 5 then one?
02:31.18kergothheh
02:31.19TainI just want "open all mail with money"
02:31.25NimbleRabitvhaarr: open all works good enough
02:31.33TainOpen all in Postal doesn't work at all.  
02:31.34NimbleRabitwell*
02:31.36NimbleRabitit does for me
02:31.39harldephinuhm. why would i want a loot all button again ?
02:31.40TainIt gets through a few and then fails.
02:31.50kergothopen all is slow as hell when it manages to do anything
02:31.52kergothin postal anyway
02:31.56vhaarrindeed
02:32.00vhaarrbecause the implementation is bad
02:32.09NimbleRabitthat's fine with me, I only use it when I go afk
02:32.27TainYeah because the mailbox system is terrible and causes "internal mail errors" if you go too fast.
02:32.31vhaarrhardcoded 1-second delay between opens, little or no error handling if you do other bag shuffling while it's opening
02:32.36TainSo it has to go slowly as hell.
02:32.38ckknightoh, issue: I think we should enable scriptErrors by default, because otherwise users will be like "nothing shows and I gots no errors ur dum"
02:32.42ckknightany thoughts?
02:33.15XuerianPerhaps in bugsack
02:33.23vhaarrBugSack doesn't need it.
02:33.30XuerianAh
02:33.36XuerianWell then, yeah, I guess so.
02:33.37TainDamnit now I have to figure out if I care enough to actually code what I want.  And that sort of decision making process can wait for sobriety.
02:33.50XuerianAlso, I didn't realize that they're actually allowing whispered addon messages. nice.
02:33.54ckknightif they have BugSack, then scriptErrors does nothing, and that user deserves a cookie.
02:34.11ckknightif they don't, then I think scriptErrors being on would be better than off.
02:34.15harldephinhm, i've tried postal lately and decided for myself that i don't really have a need(!) for it. i _can_ imagine that it might be useful for some people in certain situations, but my guess it that -for the most parts of it- it's a rather rare one and even rare that i'd be put into it
02:34.15vhaarrckknight: How would it be possible to determine if scriptErrors is in a off-by-default state or off-by-user-choice state?
02:34.20ckknightcan't
02:34.32vhaarrright
02:34.35vhaarrthen I vote no
02:34.36CryectTrigger a fake error msg that warns them!
02:35.07ckknightI don't want to deal with bitch users who don't realize they're getting errors.
02:35.33CryectCould add something that you tell them to type to check?
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02:35.50CyrezYou can just warn them the first time it loads for them to make sure that it's on, and that they're stupid if they complain about something not working when it was off. ^^
02:36.20ckknightI could put it into my assorted addons that have DBs
02:36.28ckknightso that it only enables it once.
02:36.31CryectI mean if I didn't ignore errors with Ace addons i be in trouble because I think there is almost always one of the addons with some error msgs popping up from something :-p
02:36.51vhaarrwe just need a customized bug reporting system that tells users what they should do before they get to submit a bug
02:37.10StylpeWhy can't I reference Cartographer_Waypoints?
02:37.21vhaarrStylpe: Sure you can, what do you need?
02:37.32StylpeCartographer_Waypoints:SetPointAsWaypoint(x, y)
02:37.48Stylpeattempt to index global 'Cartographer_Waypoints' (a nil value)
02:37.58vhaarrwell then the addon isn't loaded
02:38.00Cyrezckknight: Yeah, that's about what I was thinking. Just a one-time trigger that fires off when it's loaded for the first time in 2.1.
02:38.04StylpeOh duh!
02:38.16ckknightCyrez: I wish I could do it in AceLibrary, but no DB available.
02:38.38CyrezYeah, that'd make it easy.
02:38.46Cryectneed a way to create a saved variable without adding it to the TOC >_>
02:39.29ckknightthey removed that function, Cryect
02:39.35Cryectthats something that would really needed to fix a few things that can happen potentially without GPSLib
02:39.37CryectI know they did
02:39.42Cryectwith that old funky way
02:39.45Cryectthe old way was strange
02:42.50harldephinan optional key binding to have nQuestLog show/hide the tracker would be cool
02:43.11kenlyricwoot, I have two extra hours for any mods to be bugged and get fixed on live.
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02:43.26kenlyrichurray extended maint.
02:43.32harldephinlol
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02:44.11ZealotOnAStickCryect: how ready is recount as a viable replacement for recap?  Still need some work, or already as good and just getting better?
02:44.31CryectZealotOnAStick: Its getting there, I need to add in filtering is the major thing
02:44.38CryectZealotOnAStick: also need a summary window
02:44.38CIA-2303funkydude * r36192 10AbacusLib/ (. AbacusLib.toc): AbacusLib: toc > 20100
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02:45.38CryectFunkeh` appears to be having fun
02:45.46Funkeh`break 321
02:45.46CIA-2303thekarn * r36199 10SanityItemCache/ (3 files):
02:45.46CIA-23SanityItemCache:
02:45.46CIA-23* Started working on SIC API
02:45.47CIA-23+ Added Search and SearchIter APIs
02:45.49kenlyricso, uh, don't update now :)
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02:46.18CIA-2303funkydude * r36203 10ParserLib/ (. ParserLib.toc): ParserLib: toc > 20100
02:46.19CIA-2303funkydude * r36204 10ProximityLib/ (. ProximityLib.toc): ProximityLib: toc > 20100
02:46.24CIA-2303funkydude * r36205 10RollCall-1.0/ (. RollCall-1.0.toc): RollCall-1.0: toc > 20100
02:46.25art3mishttp://12.129.232.127/background/WoW-2.0.12.6546-x86-Win-enUS-BKGND.torrent for 2.1
02:47.39CIA-2303funkydude * r36206 10PaintChipsLib/ (. PaintChipsLib.toc): PaintChipsLib: toc > 20100
02:47.43CIA-2303funkydude * r36207 10RosterLib/ (. RosterLib.toc): RosterLib: toc > 20100
02:47.47CIA-2303funkydude * r36208 10SharedMediaLib/ (. SharedMediaLib.toc): SharedMediaLib: toc > 20100
02:47.50CIA-2303funkydude * r36209 10TouristLib/TouristLib.toc: TouristLib: toc > 20100
02:47.55CIA-2303funkydude * r36210 10TipLib/TipLib.toc: TipLib: toc > 20100
02:47.58CIA-2303funkydude * r36211 10Talismonger-3.0/ (. Talismonger-3.0.toc): Talismonger-3.0: toc > 20100
02:48.18hasteI hope you are using a script
02:48.19CIA-2303funkydude * r36212 10TabletLib/ (. TabletLib.toc): TabletLib: toc > 20100
02:48.32CIA-2303funkydude * r36213 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (9 files in 9 dirs): SpecialEventsEmbed: toc > 20100
02:48.45Funkeh`its only the libs i use
02:48.55hasteyou did it manually :o ?
02:48.56Funkeh`feel free to fix anything else because i don't care
02:49.15hasteneither do I :D
02:49.24CryectYou actually have it setup to care about what version the toc says?
02:50.02CIA-2303cryect * r36214 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Recount.lua):
02:50.02CIA-23Recount -Adds scrolling to the combat times on graph window
02:50.02CIA-23-Combat times only recorded if duration lasts over 10 seconds and there was at least hits tracked for one hostile
02:50.43Funkeh`hopefully the server doesn't choke up and die
02:50.58Cryectyou know people will kill it upgrading tomorrow!
02:51.27Funkeh`im updating toc's today in order to reduce that ;)
02:51.38Funkeh`since a lot of people update daily
02:51.39Cryectyeah so people will complain they are broken today
02:51.57Funkeh`whats broken? the toc? :P
02:52.23kenlyricwhat does wow do when the toc is in the future?
02:52.30Cryectnot load the addon
02:52.36Cryectif you actually have versioning check
02:52.37Funkeh`says its out of date if it doesn't match
02:52.53Funkeh`or peopel would jsut put toc 99999 and never change it probably
02:52.54kenlyricso, same as an old toc.
02:54.22CyrezI have to bypass that anyway, lol.
02:54.24CyrezFuBar_ModMenuTuFu
02:57.24CIA-2303tsigo * r36215 10Cutup/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Cutup: Merge 2.1 branch into trunk.
02:57.36Stylpeckknight: you here?
02:57.46ckknightyes, but probably don't care about your problem
02:57.53Funkeh`ROFL
02:57.53sdoubleTold.
02:58.11Cryecthahaha
02:58.24StylpeI'll try anyway =P How does  Cartographer_Waypoints:SetPointAsWaypoint() work? The x/y coords arent' regular coords, right?
02:58.31CyrezAny idea how big the patch will be?
02:58.38ckknightpretty sure they are.
02:58.44CyrezLike, 1.12.x > 2.0 big?
02:58.46ckknight[0,1]x[0,1]
02:58.57ckknightCyrez: half that, I'd say
02:59.21StylpeAh, see, I meant [0, 100]. There's ma problem!
02:59.35Funkeh`about 370mb total
02:59.48art3misso far its 269+21
02:59.50CIA-2303next96 * r36216 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua:
02:59.50CIA-23Cartographer_Trainers :
02:59.50CIA-23- Update locale koKR
02:59.56art3mispartial parts 1 and 2
03:00.13art3misthere's at min another 10megs waiting for the servers to drop for maint
03:00.31Cyrez370MB?
03:01.54Funkeh`yes
03:01.54CyrezOuch.
03:01.54Funkeh`they waited too long
03:01.54StylpeHere's a thing that's been bugging me for a while: I can't get myEditBox:ClearFocus() to work.
03:03.45StylpeYay, setting SetAutoFocus(false) fixed it!
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03:10.15Cryect<Stylpe> Ah, see, I meant [0, 100]. There's ma problem!
03:10.31Cryectthose aren't normal coords :-p
03:10.31Cryectjust Cosmos deciding to multiply by 100
03:10.44Funkeh`gogo
03:10.54StylpeHeh, I guess, but it's the most commonly used
03:11.16Cryectonly because thats what thottbot shows coords in
03:13.18art3misBrannoc: *nv* From the CM's replies on the forums regarding the diminishing role of priests in the current game content (PvE and PvP), we're led to believe there is going to be future review of priests. Can you provide us any insight on the changes that could be a possibility?
03:13.18art3misKalgan: Well, i think some of the diminishing role of priests had a lot to do with the power of the illumination talent.  With 2.1 there are some significant balance changes that should improve the role of healing priests in endgame content regardless of the fact that it wasn't the hpm/hps of the priests themselves that changed significantly.
03:13.18art3misKalgan: It also had something to do with the power of the shadow spec.  ;]
03:13.23art3mishahahah
03:13.36art3misscore one for the shadow priests fucking the holys ;)\
03:13.47StylpeAny idea why my SimpleHTML frame won't wrap?
03:14.16kebinusanFunkeh`: much love for the mass toc updates
03:14.41StylpeThink it's related to :SetFontObject( ?
03:14.45Funkeh`;]
03:16.15NimbleRabit....I spelled startattack wrong in my macro
03:16.27NimbleRabitmonths I've been using this thing and always thought the function just didn't work correctly
03:16.43Cryecthaha
03:16.46NightHawkTheSanelol
03:17.59art3misBrannoc: *anon219* Players think the increase of cooldown on Shadow Word:Death causes nerf in PvP as well as PVE. Many priests say that shadow priests should only depend on DPS because they don’t have CC except Psychic Scream and Shadow Word:Death is previously pretty useful for PVP. Do Devs have any plan to review cooldown time on Shadow Word:Death in the future?
03:17.59art3misKalgan: Yes, it is a nerf.  Although, it's arguably less of one in pvp than pve.  So far we're satisfied with the new cooldown.
03:19.05NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: while I'm glad you feel the need to enlighten us with copy and pastes from the chat, I think we're all capable of reading it on our own. :)
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03:19.35aen`patch tomorrow?
03:19.40Cryectyes
03:19.41NightHawkTheSanenope.
03:19.43art3misthat one was actually a mistake ;P
03:19.52CryectFunkeh` is going crazy for no reason
03:19.56art3misthe first one i just found funny ;P
03:20.00NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh` always goes crazy.
03:20.06Funkeh`im a crazy guy
03:20.15nymbiaand smelly
03:20.20Funkeh`shh
03:20.44NightHawkTheSanewell, it's not bad enough for me to smell it all the way over here, so meh.
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03:29.43Fisker-Enabling and disabling buttons is now protected functionality and may not be called on secure frames while in combat, as of 2.1.2.
03:29.49Fisker-what does this mean? :n
03:30.26NightHawkTheSanei'm going to assume it means you can't programatically disable or enable a button in combat?
03:31.19ckknight2.1.2?
03:31.20ckknightwtf?
03:31.32ckknightwe're not going to get 2.1.0?
03:31.35nymbiahaha
03:31.37nymbiasure we are
03:31.46nymbiathey're just developing ahead of the game
03:31.46Fisker-2.1.1 is an emergency patch probably
03:32.03kenlyricodd numbers seem to be mostly localization lately.
03:32.27NightHawkTheSanenah, you know all those 2.1.0 patch notes? it's all a giant joke, and they're going to disregard those and skip straight ahead to 2.1.2
03:32.31Fisker-gonna go to work
03:32.34Fisker-see you!1
03:32.47Diaowhat did enabling and disabling buttons in combat do before anyway
03:33.04Diaomake buttons clickable?
03:33.47NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i'm guessing
03:35.29CIA-2303next96 * r36217 10Violation/modules/ (Decurse.lua HitCritRate.lua):
03:35.29CIA-23Violation :
03:35.29CIA-23- Update locale koKR
03:36.39CIA-2303jayrox * r36218 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc): FuBar_VampwatchFu: updated toc to 20100 for patch 2.1, not other changes needed.
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03:47.16Diaohey does um
03:47.23Diaomailinfo track mail sent from bulkmail?
03:47.36Funkeh`try and tell us? :P
03:47.40Diaolol
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03:47.58Diaopostman apparently doesn't :(
03:47.59CIA-2303funkydude * r36220 10libs/: libs: remove empty folder
03:48.04Diaoi'll test it again later
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03:48.12nymbialibs?
03:48.19nymbialol, who added that one Funkeh`
03:48.24Funkeh`dunno
03:48.26a-stray-catdoes compost do anything anymore?
03:48.28Funkeh`should have checked
03:48.39Funkeh`i think it was in the single digit svn days nymbia
03:49.26a-stray-cati was looking through it, and some functions are just empty ;O
03:49.43ckknighta-stray-cat: theoretically, yes. I tend to have my own local functions to take care of that, though
03:49.43nymbiahttp://wowace.com/trac/changeset/25474
03:49.43Funkeh`compost is not needed as of 2.0
03:49.54ckknightuntrue, Funkeh`
03:50.12nymbiaFunkeh`: http://wowace.com/trac/changeset/25474
03:50.13ckknightanyone spreading that lie should not be considered a good developer.
03:50.26Funkeh`lol nymbia
03:50.28a-stray-catfunction lib:Reclaim() end <--from the compost file
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03:50.37Funkeh`ckknight: compostlib is not needed
03:50.43CryectPRetty sure I know the answer to this but is there anyway to set fontstring orientation to be vertical?
03:50.44Funkeh`i never said not doing it locally
03:50.51ckknightfair enough
03:50.54ckknightthe idea is still valid
03:51.05ckknightusing Compost as a library is inefficient, imho
03:51.10Funkeh`yeah
03:51.15ckknightalso can cause issues with lack of namespaces
03:51.33ckknightPitBull provides new, newHash, newSet, and del
03:51.37ckknighthandles everything I need
03:51.47a-stray-cati see
03:53.34CIA-2303funkydude * r36221 10OneCore/: OneCore: remove empty folder
03:56.24CIA-2303funkydude * r36222 10/trunk/ (FuBar_VoiceFu/ fubar_voicefu/): FuBar_VoiceFu: shrug if this addon even works, fixing it anyway
04:03.08Funkeh`i wonder if any non-defunct addons still use PT1
04:03.51CryectHas PT1's database been continued to be updated?
04:04.15Funkeh`no
04:04.34NightHawkTheSaneI think that fact alone makes any pt1 using addons defunct :P
04:04.40Cryectthen can't imagine they are functioning that great then whatever the addon is
04:04.56nymbiai think bulkmail1 still uses it
04:04.57CryectI mean unless they are using PT1 for something stupid
04:05.02nymbiabut bulkmail2 wins anyway ;)
04:05.26Funkeh`BM2 is on trunk now?
04:05.40Funkeh`you think i will be struck down for tagging PT1 then?
04:05.51nymbiaonly one way to find out
04:05.56Funkeh`you do it
04:06.05nymbiarofl
04:06.08Funkeh`:p
04:07.19NightHawkTheSaneTag it and see.
04:07.31NightHawkTheSane"tis better to ask for forgiveness than permission"
04:07.40CIA-2303nymbia * r36223 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua:
04:07.40CIA-23Cartographer_InstanceLoot:
04:07.40CIA-23- Fix for bosses with heroic mode but not normal mode loot.
04:08.04CIA-2303cryect * r36224 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Adds Y Labels for Tick Marks can set them for either the left side, right side, or both :SetYLabels(Left,Right) Works for Line Graphs and Scatter Plots
04:08.11CIA-2303funkydude 07Final * r36225 10PeriodicTable/: create folder for PT
04:09.26CIA-2303cryect * r36226 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Now uses Y Labels and autoadjusts the y gridline interval based on the max amount being drawn.
04:09.43binderany of you guys play tanks?
04:09.54CryectSure
04:10.09bindervia KTM do you know what kind of TPS you average?
04:10.51harldephinnumbers
04:10.55harldephinargh
04:11.05CIA-2303funkydude 07PT1Final * r36227 10PeriodicTable/: copy PT1 to tags
04:11.32CryectUh if I recall right around with 500-600 TPS offtanking a mob and if actually tanking it 800+ TPS something like that
04:11.37CryectI'm druid btw
04:11.38harldephin*babble* .. my mendeleev's showing item ID numbers in the tooltip's 'used in' category
04:11.41CIA-2303funkydude * r36228 10/tags/PeriodicTable_DataMiner/: copy to tags
04:11.58CryectI like never look at the TPS numbers though
04:12.02CIA-2303funkydude * r36229 10PeriodicTable_DataMiner/: removed, see tags
04:12.19CIA-2303funkydude * r36230 10PeriodicTable/: removed, see tags
04:12.50CIA-2303funkydude 07Final * r36231 10PeriodicTable/: don't even need this, i blame nymbia
04:13.24nymbiai was just about to yell at you for that ;)
04:13.30harldephinor maybe they're not item ID numbers, dunno
04:14.56LePeR|Jauniai'm getting the same thing
04:15.44CIA-2303funkydude * r36232 10/tags/Earplug/: copy to tags
04:16.19nymbiaFunkeh`: yeah bulkmail's the only one that's failing to zip now
04:16.22CIA-2303funkydude * r36233 10EarPlug/: removed, see tags
04:16.30Funkeh`cool
04:17.31vhaarrBulkMail1 could probably be tagged and removed from the trunk
04:18.01nymbialooking at the zipping errors, there's a lot of stuff that falls into that category
04:18.08nymbiahttp://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt
04:20.05art3mis3 more weeks
04:20.14CIA-2303funkydude * r36234 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (!!!StandaloneLibraries.toc PeriodicTable/ filelist.wau): !!!StandaloneLibraries: remove PT1
04:21.35CIA-2303funkydude * r36235 10/tags/ZooKeeper/: copy to tags
04:21.56CIA-2303funkydude * r36236 10Zookeeper/: removed
04:24.52CIA-2303funkydude * r36237 10PatchTorrents/: im sure those are still seeded
04:25.03NightHawkTheSanelol
04:25.05tsigohehe
04:25.24nymbiarofl
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04:29.37CIA-2303cryect * r36238 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Changes how times are recorded for entering combat (system time now instead of game time)
04:30.05CIA-2303funkydude * r36239 10/tags/xchar/: copy to tags
04:30.20CIA-2303funkydude * r36240 10xChar/: removed
04:31.43CIA-2303funkydude * r36241 10LightDB/: remove empty folder
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04:33.00CIA-2303funkydude * r36242 10HealSyncFu/: remove empty folder
04:33.56nymbiaFunkeh`: god dammit, i need a torrent for 1.6.1 to 1.6.2 and you deleted it!
04:34.10Funkeh`you have the expansion install that
04:34.12Funkeh`!
04:34.24NightHawkTheSaneill install YOU
04:34.30Funkeh`expansion = 1.0 > 2.0 afaik
04:34.44NightHawkTheSaneyeah, more or less.
04:34.52NightHawkTheSanebut nymbia wants to play on a private server running 1.6.2!
04:35.06nymbiarofl
04:35.08CIA-2303funkydude * r36243 10/tags/Pothead/: copy to tags
04:35.13Funkeh`nymbia is a gnome
04:35.17Funkeh`and has no right to life
04:35.22Funkeh`never mind a 1.6 test server
04:35.33nymbia:(
04:35.37CIA-2303funkydude * r36244 10PotHead/: removed
04:35.45NightHawkTheSaneI was going to ask something, but i can't remember what it is.
04:35.50NightHawkTheSanenymbia: this is somehow your fault
04:35.55Funkeh`lol
04:36.00nymbiathat's true
04:36.52vhaarrFunkeh`: nice cleanup work, I want to see more!
04:37.02Funkeh`vhaarr: i want pizza
04:37.47CIA-2303funkydude * r36245 10/tags/RightClick/: functional is already in wow ...
04:38.06CIA-2303funkydude * r36246 10RightClick/: removed
04:38.10ckknightfunctionality
04:38.14harldephinheh
04:38.15ckknightwhat's RightClick do?
04:38.29Funkeh`copy item name to AH search box
04:38.36Funkeh`and allow right click of items in mail
04:41.34CIA-2303funkydude * r36247 10/tags/HealthMon/: copy to tags
04:42.01CIA-2303funkydude * r36248 10HealthMon/: removed
04:42.10hyperChipmunkwtf
04:42.21hyperChipmunkfunky doin' some spring cleaning?
04:42.30ckknightyep
04:42.43hyperChipmunksweet
04:42.47Funkeh`hyperChipmunk: can i tag BM1?
04:42.48hyperChipmunkdelete all of vhaarr's addons
04:42.56hyperChipmunkFunkeh`: knock your socks off
04:42.57nymbiaburn
04:43.47CIA-2303funkydude * r36249 10/tags/BulkMail/: deprecated for BulkMail2 which is full of awesomeness apparently
04:43.57Cryecthaha
04:44.03CIA-2303funkydude * r36250 10BulkMail/: removed
04:45.55CIA-2303funkydude * r36251 10/tags/eeMon/: emergency monitors made real priests
04:45.59NightHawkTheSaneBM2 -is- full of awesomeness. Shame it's not HC's awesomeness, but oh well
04:46.08CIA-2303funkydude * r36252 10eeMon/: removed
04:47.54CIA-2303funkydude * r36253 10/tags/kkbk/: tagged
04:48.01hyperChipmunkwtf
04:48.10CIA-2303funkydude * r36254 10kkbk/: removed
04:49.47CIA-2303funkydude * r36255 10/tags/FuBar_SWStatsFu/: tagged
04:50.02CIA-2303funkydude * r36256 10FuBar_SWStatsFu/: removed
04:50.19Cryecthe's just removing everything :-p
04:50.34NightHawkTheSanefeels like :P
04:50.40Funkeh`Cryect: can i tag graphlib?
04:50.55Cryectwhy?
04:51.01nymbiaO.o
04:51.02Funkeh`so i can remove it
04:51.08kergoth..
04:51.09nymbiano ;p
04:51.11Cryectso I can reupload it? :-p
04:51.19Funkeh`im going by http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt :p
04:51.20kergothgraphlib is used, maintained, and current..
04:51.31Funkeh`kergoth: i man man it was a joke
04:51.42Funkeh`know*
04:52.07CryectWell I figured it was a joke :-p
04:52.10kergoththat text file is stupid.  errors are fatal by definition, those should be labeled warnings
04:52.30kergothimo anyway
04:52.32CryectThanks for that page Funkeh` I was wondering where the error messages went when I screw something up
04:52.35todd[19:31:48] <nevcairiel> my texts disappeared from my pitbull bars
04:52.40toddohnoes me too!11
04:52.42Funkeh`np
04:53.55CryectThats a lot of really old addons
04:54.06CryectERROR: (http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/KC_ScheduleKeep/) interface 1800 too old
04:54.07Cryect:-p
04:54.16NightHawkTheSane1800?
04:54.21NightHawkTheSanewow.
04:54.37MoX|Padwa_work_remove !
04:54.54CIA-2303funkydude * r36257 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (8 files in 7 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Item/Loot update
04:54.58CryectI say he updates the TOC for that one
04:55.01Funkeh`i think thats a mispelled 18000
04:55.06Cryecti think so also
04:55.31MoX|Padwa_work_FuBar_SWStatsFu/ was working nice ... ^(
04:56.13NightHawkTheSanekergoth: i dont think all errors are strictly fatal, but yeah, those are probably better labeled as warnings/notices
04:56.26CryectI have a feeling a decent amount of the 1.12 are likely working okay
04:56.45Cryectunless they were doing for loops without pairs
04:56.52Cryector gfind's
04:56.53Funkeh`doesn't really matter if they are working tbh, if they are abandoned they should be tagged really ;p
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05:01.19harldephintoo bad.
05:02.49Arrowmasterfuck warriors, just took 5300+ in 3 hits
05:02.49Arrowmasterin 3 seconds
05:02.49CIA-2303ayunyan 072.0.1 * r36258 10ChatAssist2/: ChatAssist2: tagging for Ver 2.0.1
05:02.56hyperChipmunk~lol
05:03.06purlwell, lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.
05:03.07hyperChipmunkayunyan's getting out while he still can
05:03.12hyperChipmunkshut up purl
05:03.42harldephinlol
05:04.02harldephinerr. i mean.. "haha"
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05:04.05hyperChipmunkhaha
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05:04.51vhaarrArrowmaster: Most classes can ditch out that amount of damage in 3 seconds, actually.
05:05.14ckknightpants
05:05.15art3misheh
05:05.19art3missee i AM right!
05:05.27hyperChipmunkyea, it's laughING to me, too
05:05.48Funkeh`there is no escape
05:05.55hyperChipmunkart3mis: what 3 letters?
05:06.14art3miswhat purl referenced above ;P
05:06.23hyperChipmunki lost my backlog
05:06.29Arrowmastervhaarr: not instantly
05:06.33hyperChipmunkwhat letters are they?
05:06.34art3misthats gotta suck for you then huh?
05:06.41hyperChipmunkplease, i must know!
05:07.02CIA-2303funkydude * r36259 10BigWigs_AQ20/ (. BigWigs_AQ20.toc): BigWigs_AQ20: toc > 20100
05:07.06CIA-2303funkydude * r36260 10BigWigs_AQ40/ (. BigWigs_AQ40.toc): BigWigs_AQ40: toc > 20100
05:07.09CIA-2303funkydude * r36261 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (. BigWigs_Azeroth.toc): BigWigs_Azeroth: toc > 20100
05:07.13CIA-2303funkydude * r36262 10BigWigs_BWL/ (. BigWigs_BWL.toc): BigWigs_BWL: toc > 20100
05:07.14art3miselle oh elle ;P
05:07.17CIA-2303funkydude * r36263 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/BigWigs_CommonAuras.toc: BigWigs_CommonAuras: toc > 20100
05:07.21hyperChipmunkonly you, art3mis, can toll me what three letters!!!
05:07.21CIA-2303funkydude * r36264 10BigWigs_CThunAssist/BigWigs_CThunAssist.toc: BigWigs_CThunAssist: toc > 20100
05:07.25CIA-2303funkydude * r36265 10BigWigs_Debugger/BigWigs_Debugger.toc: BigWigs_Debugger: toc > 20100
05:07.28hyperChipmunkthat's like 10 letters
05:07.30CIA-2303funkydude * r36266 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/BigWigs_HealbotAssist.toc: BigWigs_HealbotAssist: toc > 20100
05:07.35CIA-2303funkydude * r36267 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.toc: BigWigs_LoathebTactical: toc > 20100
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05:07.40art3misnot if you verbalize them ;P
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05:07.49NimbleRabitclad|sleep: are you realy sleeping?
05:07.50CIA-2303funkydude * r36270 10BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_NefCount.toc: BigWigs_NefCount: toc > 20100
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05:08.02hyperChipmunkif he was, he isn't anymore
05:08.06CIA-2303funkydude * r36274 10BigWigs_ZombieFood/ (. BigWigs_ZombieFood.toc): BigWigs_ZombieFood: toc > 20100
05:08.19ayunyansry, "tags" is prohibition?
05:08.23hyperChipmunknow he's gonna come tear your head off
05:08.29hyperChipmunkayunyan: haha no
05:08.40hyperChipmunkjust funky is going on a tagging/deleting spree
05:08.55Funkeh`ayunyan: tag as much as you want
05:08.56hyperChipmunkyour tag made it look like you were trying to get your own in before he did it for you
05:09.18hyperChipmunkpack up and move out before the tornado hits, so to speak
05:09.25mjc!seen deltron
05:09.25Diaodeltron!i=ryan@75-132-104-140.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com was last seen 11 day 6 hr 44 min 41 s ago on #wowace
05:09.27mjc:P
05:09.31mjcmeh
05:09.36ayunyani see, thx
05:10.00hyperChipmunkif anything, we could really stand for more people to tag stuff
05:10.08hyperChipmunkand by more people, i mean 'not me'
05:10.12Funkeh`lol
05:11.29harldephinnooo, not my head, pleeease, i still need it
05:12.00LePeR|Jauniaanyone know the command to import itemrack settings to closetgnome?
05:12.06NimbleRabit<PROTECTED>
05:12.32purlnimblerabit is currently on #wowi-lounge (8h 47m 37s) #wowace (8h 47m 37s) #wowwiki (8h 47m 37s). Has said a total of 135 messages. Is idling for 26s, last said: ' ~seen NimbleRabit'.
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05:12.32Arrowmasterjesus christ
05:12.32Arrowmaster2730 melee crit
05:12.57vhaarrLePeR|Jaunia: There's a separate addon for it
05:13.03vhaarrLePeR|Jaunia: ClosetGnome_ItemRack, I think.
05:13.15Funkeh`just install them both
05:13.21Funkeh`equip a set wiht itemrack
05:13.22LePeR|Jauniayea i have it
05:13.26Funkeh`and make it with CG
05:13.37Funkeh`go through your sets and then remove itemrack
05:13.48LePeR|Jauniahaha yea i was looking for an import option
05:16.58Gngskwe're an item ;)
05:17.01vhaarreh... wait
05:17.10vhaarrno, that's not right either
05:17.11vhaarrdammit
05:17.16Funkeh`rofl
05:17.19LePeR|Jaunialol
05:17.37NightHawkTheSaneyou know what's worse than pugs? guild groups that act like pugs.
05:19.05NimbleRabitagreed
05:19.55NightHawkTheSaneI seriously need a new guild.
05:19.57NimbleRabitme too
05:20.07LePeR|Jauniaim telling
05:21.02Funkeh`join mine, were trying Al'ar, and spending about 500 gold's worth of consumables a night
05:21.02tsigoisn't it fun?
05:21.02Funkeh`yeah
05:21.05LePeR|Jauniahey 2.1 coming tommorrow so at least it'll be cheaper for ya
05:21.11NimbleRabithow many people here use lightheaded
05:21.13Funkeh`indeed
05:21.21Funkeh`but we want her dead before 2.1
05:21.25Funkeh`so tonight essentially
05:22.02NimbleRabitI can't make 500g a night
05:22.06NimbleRabitsorry
05:22.06CIA-2303roartindon * r36275 10Aloft/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
05:22.06CIA-23Aloft
05:22.06CIA-23- Removed hideExpired options and code in preparation for 2.1
05:22.56LePeR|Jauniaew trinketmenu takes longer to load then itemrack :(
05:23.40NimbleRabitwtrinketmenu own
05:23.44NimbleRabitowns*
05:24.10NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: lol. good luck?
05:24.12LePeR|Jauniahave to try it
05:24.29Funkeh`ty
05:24.35hyperChipmunk<3 trinketmenu
05:25.07sergiotrinketmenu A+++++
05:25.10ckknight<PROTECTED>
05:25.16NightHawkTheSaneI am the king of no pants!
05:25.36ckknightyou're a duke at best.
05:25.40Gngskpants are so oppresive
05:25.45ThraeDruids don't need pants.
05:25.56sergioso should I finish watching the tudors or start on entourage   YOU DECIDE 2007
05:25.57NightHawkTheSane(but damn, i wish they'd wear them)
05:26.03NimbleRabitI've been farming gnomer for 3 hours for pants
05:26.07NightHawkTheSane(you think i like staring at bear ass?)
05:26.08ckknightsergio: entourage
05:26.21ThraeWe bear it all. We're positively catty.
05:27.09NimbleRabitthat was lame T_T
05:29.20sergioman there was pizza tonight and I slept through it
05:29.24sergiofuck me
05:29.31sergioonly 2 cold slices left
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05:32.02Kemayockknight: I just rezzed, and my mana bar is still grey...
05:32.19ckknightdid you update?
05:32.34KemayoNot in the last hour or so.
05:32.41KemayoOh, there we go, it went back to blue.
05:32.49LePeR|Jauniahaha yea mines been doing that also
05:33.18Jagobahhmmm
05:33.34JagobahI just ran the updater.... am I gonna have addonprobs if I log on now?
05:33.44hyperChipmunk>8( Complete Vulnerability ftl
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05:33.59LePeR|Jaunianah just keep load out of date enabled
05:33.59a-stray-catthere's a santa barbara station
05:34.02a-stray-cathow far is that from you?
05:34.08NimbleRabitwow
05:34.10NimbleRabitWUU just went crazy on me
05:34.13NimbleRabitand froze my comp
05:34.19Funkeh`zomg
05:34.22Jagobah:o :o :o
05:34.24Funkeh`~flee
05:34.48purlACTION runs away screaming
05:34.48hyperChipmunkunpossible; .NET is so stable!
05:34.49Jagobahwho in here liked my poem dedicated to Quartz
05:34.49hyperChipmunkJagobah: is that what it was?
05:34.58Funkeh`Jagobah: what poem
05:35.00hyperChipmunkguess purl didn't
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05:35.07NimbleRabityeah it made like 1000000000 windows
05:35.12NimbleRabitwith some error
05:35.17ZealotOnAStickwow.
05:35.33ZealotOnAStickI just ran WAU, and like 98% of everything updated.  Yay core lib updates.
05:35.59nymbiai didnt do it >.>
05:36.06NightHawkTheSanelies!
05:36.27ZealotOnAStickNah, I already started putting all your addons on my 2.1.0 folder for prep like yesterday.
05:36.57nymbiaPS i'm tagging/removing a bunch of old stuff locally so uh.. nobody do anything that'll conflict me ;)
05:37.17Funkeh`AMAGAD
05:37.19Funkeh`WTF
05:37.29nymbiastealing Funkeh` 's thunder
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05:41.56CIA-2303kemayo * r36276 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Blizz/Blizz.lua FuBar_QuestsFu.toc Sound/Sound.lua):
05:41.56CIA-23FuBar_QuestsFu:
05:41.56CIA-23- 20100!
05:42.28Funkeh`omg nymbia will kill you Kemayo!
05:43.25nymbianaw that won't cause problems
05:43.31Funkeh`damn
05:43.43nymbiajust if someone updates an addon that has a toc of 1800
05:43.57Funkeh`theres like only 1?
05:44.10nymbialol
05:44.14NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: both
05:44.22Cryectwell as long as your forum isn't on the same DNS :-p
05:44.28Funkeh`yeah
05:44.28NightHawkTheSaneit may also be fun, and amusing
05:44.29nymbiaFunkeh`: i'm moving the 11100 and 11200 crap too ;)
05:44.30Funkeh`you will need that
05:44.40Funkeh`ok nymbia
05:44.53Funkeh`watch you don't move some of those scripts with not toc
05:45.13nymbiayeah
05:45.55Funkeh`forums = ftw on patch day
05:46.02Funkeh`especially since the blizz ones die
05:46.12NimbleRabitI hate patches
05:46.13Funkeh`<3 having separated server community forums
05:46.14art3misso is there any physical difference between dual channel ddr and reg ddr?
05:46.15NimbleRabitthe blizz downloader is lame
05:46.34ZealotOnAStickThe old site consists entirely of a forum, and a news front page.  Nothing else.
05:47.35ZealotOnAStickThe new site is going to be the same for a few days, until I have enough time to get enough stuff set up with the new CMS.
05:47.45ZealotOnAStickanyway . . . DVR with Heroes beckons.
05:48.00ckknightdon't give _anything_ away
05:48.05NimbleRabitwhat time do the servers go down
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05:50.44hyperChipmunk3pdt
05:51.05NimbleRabitthx
05:52.21Gngskwhich episode of heroes aired tonight? 22?
05:53.59NimbleRabitis there a way to know how long it is before I can enter another instance?
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05:59.33NimbleRabitno?
05:59.34NimbleRabitthere should be T_T
06:03.00CIA-2303rabbit * r36277 10/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs): ClosetGnome -> 20100.
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06:03.50CIA-2303rabbit * r36278 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua: ClosetGnome_OhNoes: Only deequip weapons on aggro in pve instanced content.
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06:06.09NimbleRabitwoah
06:06.11NimbleRabitnice change rabbit
06:06.49vhaarryeah I figured it makes sense
06:07.13Funkeh`nymbia: i must launch a complaint about the amoutn of time you are taking
06:07.17Funkeh`its just not up to scratch
06:07.30Funkeh`can't compete with the best at that speed
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06:08.26Laricso 2.1 ia going live today?
06:08.47Funkeh`yes
06:09.16Laricnice
06:10.27nymbiaFunkeh`: lol, you do it then ;p
06:10.46Funkeh`nymbia: i thought i'd let you have some of the fun
06:13.16art3mishttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2945308&CatId=2019hrm thats not bad
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06:14.24Kaeltenello
06:14.31Funkeh`heya
06:14.57Kaelteneverything still look good for a patch ?
06:15.12NimbleRabitthey said yes
06:15.25NimbleRabitto patch
06:15.31Kaeltencool
06:16.22NimbleRabithow do I make this tattle thing work
06:17.02hyperChipmunkmove your battlegroup folder into you addons directory
06:17.30CIA-2303rabbit * r36279 10/ (21 files in 21 dirs): .Bump to 20100.
06:20.53NimbleRabitI have no idea what a battlegroup folder is
06:20.54NimbleRabitor where it is
06:22.06Diaoso WAU has a auto-selfupdater now?
06:22.20Funkeh`no
06:22.30Funkeh`but it alerts if its out of date
06:22.34Diaooh
06:22.38Diaosounds good
06:22.51Diaowow nearly 700 ace addons now
06:22.52Diaoll
06:22.53Diaolol*
06:23.32Funkeh`yeah i don't think thats accurate
06:23.40Funkeh`i think it counts deprecated addons aswell
06:23.44Diaohm what's this
06:23.47Diaogetinline?
06:25.48NimbleRabithyperChipmunk: I did that, will I need to do it again after every update?
06:26.19CIA-2303funkydude * r36280 10ViewAddonMessage/ (. ViewAddonMessage.toc): ViewAddonMessage: toc > 20100
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06:28.10art3mishrm whats another good cheap place to order stuff from thats like tigerdirect?
06:29.06ulicI like cdw.com
06:29.17Diaonewegg?
06:29.29ulicyea newegg rocks too
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06:35.54NimbleRabityeah tattle not working still
06:35.59NimbleRabitI think I'm doing something wrong
06:36.30NimbleRabitwoah nvm
06:36.36NimbleRabitit works on some people, but not for myself
06:40.49hyperChipmunkNimbleRabit: only the top 1000 teams per BG are in the default set
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06:42.51NimbleRabitoh
06:42.52NimbleRabithmm
06:43.00NimbleRabitI woulda thought I would be in it
06:43.01NimbleRabit=/
06:43.15NimbleRabitdoes it get new data every time I reload wow?
06:44.05NimbleRabitand how can I make it get more teams than that
06:45.36NimbleRabitkind of ineffective if I can't see people at my own rating lol
06:45.36NightHawkTheSaneI'm going to go out on a limb and say if you're not in the top 1000 teams in a battlegroup, you're typical opponents aren't good enough to warrant needed that?
06:45.36Funkeh`lol
06:46.24CIA-2303shieldb * r36281 10Incubator/Incubator.toc: Incubator: bumping to 2.1
06:46.29NightHawkTheSanebut then again, that could just be me being a jerk. :p
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06:49.15CIA-2303saroz * r36282 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: toc -> 20100 .. finally!
06:49.48art3misMwave Athlon64 X2 4600 System w/2GB /320GB /ATI Radeon X1250 /18X DVD-RW and more!
06:49.48art3misShips with Vista! $666.00
06:50.04art3mishehe that last line is awesome
06:50.38evlpatch tomorrow!
06:50.41evlconfirmed
06:50.45evlLet me rephrase that
06:50.48NightHawkTheSanewelcome to 8 hours ago.
06:50.51evl12Patch tomorrow
06:51.01evlBut you didn't say it in blue print
06:51.06evlNightHawkTheSane: I was sleeping then!
06:51.14NightHawkTheSaneNo, tigole said it in blue print, 8 hours ago.
06:51.42NightHawkTheSanepsh, excuses excuses ;)
06:51.52Arrowmasterthey also said it during the dev chat
06:52.28Funkeh`later
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06:54.11NimbleRabitNightHawkTheSane: just because you aren't top 1k on a battlegroup doesn't mean your opponents aren't good...
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06:54.55NimbleRabiteveryone is at least decent at our rating (around 1940's) and warrants knowing their spec
06:55.47Punkie`omg teh patch??/111/1
06:55.54nymbiaif you're in the 1940s, you're probably in the top 100ish teams..
06:56.34NimbleRabitnot according to tattle apparently
06:57.32NimbleRabitheh yeah according to armory we are 1030th ranked
06:57.45NimbleRabitit has us at 1890 rating though
06:58.20Punkie`NightHawkTheSane! Link me to the blue stuffs!
06:58.31theoddone33I'm so jealous of anyone over 1900 rank
06:58.46NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: lol, uh, blue stuffs? i was just talking about the dev chat, im sure there's links to a transcript around somewhere
06:58.58nymbiawe were at 2200 and then lost like 4 games >.<
06:59.06Punkie`oh yeah, i have that ^^
06:59.12NightHawkTheSaneI would be jealous if i cared about pvp.
06:59.39theoddone33arena is the only thing that interests me about WoW anymore really
06:59.46theoddone33but I don't have a team because I can't find four people that care
07:00.03theoddone33that is care and don't suck
07:00.09NightHawkTheSaneI could never get into wow pvp. *shrug*
07:00.26theoddone33I have a lot of fun sometimes
07:00.28theoddone33depends on the game
07:00.36theoddone33warsong can make you want to stab yourself in the arm a lot
07:00.40Punkie`I've been having a bit of fun in 2v2
07:00.55Punkie`Rogue and Shaman seems better than I thought :>
07:01.53NimbleRabitnymbia: so how do I make tattle do more than 1000
07:01.53NightHawkTheSanewhat spec  shaman, out of curiosity?
07:01.53Punkie`Resto
07:01.53evlWhat I love about that dev chat
07:01.53NimbleRabitPunkie`: we destroy rogue/shaman =P
07:01.53evlis that they state two things
07:01.53evl1) Rogues are AMAZING and AWSOME
07:01.58evl2) They have EXTREME dps
07:02.07NimbleRabitPunkie`: I'm rogue/druid
07:02.09NightHawkTheSaneyour mom's extreme dps.
07:02.16Silviu-evl dream on :)
07:03.13nymbiaNimbleRabit: there's a limit number in the dataminer
07:03.13evlhah
07:03.13evlWanna be dps'ers will get it soon!
07:03.13evlSoon!
07:03.13NimbleRabitnymbia: oh found it.  After I change it do I just reload wow
07:03.38art3mistoo.... much.... face..... melting....
07:04.21evlSpriests can go back to giving mana
07:04.22evland HEAD
07:04.24evlLOLOLOLOLOL
07:04.45art3mislaugh
07:04.51art3mispoor little rogue
07:05.00art3misstill cant get in the top 5 dps ;P
07:05.09evlI'll copy what you just said
07:05.14evlAnd patch it back after my first raid in 2.1
07:05.23art3misyeah thatll show me
07:05.27NimbleRabitbest thing about 2.1
07:05.32NimbleRabityellow dmg on sword spec
07:05.33NimbleRabitwoo
07:05.40art3misyellow damage?
07:05.46NightHawkTheSaneyeah, thats a nice change
07:05.57evlI doubt swords will outdps daggers
07:06.01evlIt was a flaw in pre TBC
07:06.07evlnon positional requirement etc.
07:06.16NimbleRabitswords Do out dps daggers..
07:06.28art3misevl
07:06.30NimbleRabitwell
07:06.34NightHawkTheSaneevl: its not really a matter of that, its more of a mechanics issue that just makes swords work much better
07:06.35art3mislets just say if you get in the top 5
07:06.38CIA-2303sorren 072.1 * r36283 10SorrenTimers/ (6 files):
07:06.38CIA-23SorrenTimers:
07:06.38CIA-23- Readded most of the shaman skills (totem death detection finicky and talent detection for Fire Nova Totem NYI)
07:06.38CIA-23- Fixed many many bugs
07:06.39NimbleRabitperhaps combat mut competes
07:06.43art3misyer locks mages and priests suck ass ;P
07:07.02art3misfeel free to pass that on to them too if you make it ;P
07:07.37evlNimbleRabit: I doubt swords will outdps combat daggers in 2.1.
07:07.48art3misdepends on the player
07:08.14CIA-2303nargiddley * r36284 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
07:08.14CIA-23Baggins:
07:08.14CIA-23- Shrink Width option can be disabled when Optimize Layout is on
07:08.14CIA-23- Hide Empty Sections no longer leaves a small gap where the section would have been
07:08.33art3misdespite our horrid nerfs im looking forward to the patch
07:08.49Punkie`I still do top DPS with mutilate, I think it's an awesome spec if you work it right
07:09.14nevcairielnooo slouken protected Enable() and Disable() on buttons :(
07:09.33evlI won't change away from combat mutil anytime soon
07:09.54Punkie`I'm not even combat mutilate and that's what's making me look forward to the patch even more ;)
07:10.04Punkie`Can you wowhead me your spec evl please? ^^
07:10.07evlHaha, sub mutil fails in both PVP and PVE
07:10.25evlPunkie`: it's broken, did some PVP spec for last arena points :P
07:10.36Punkie`Not really, I do quite well with it, I only have it for improved sap :)
07:10.41art3misuh huh suuuuUUUUUuuurrrrreee
07:10.51evlPunkie`: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oELoizVohfVb0V
07:10.59evlWell, I've done all heroics in the game
07:11.04evlAnd I still have never seen the use for imp sap
07:11.09CIA-2303totalpackage * r36285 10Violation/Violation.lua:
07:11.09CIA-23Violation:
07:11.09CIA-23- right-clicking on the list frame will now show the bar options menu
07:11.10evlsprint/evasion every pull is sufficient
07:11.16nevcairielso, whats the word from US, breaking news panel confirming patch now too?
07:11.28evlnevcairiel: confirmed in blue
07:11.34evlnevcairiel: 12Patch tomorrow
07:11.44Punkie`nevcairiel: http://wow.stratics.com/content/features/HoC/logs/0001.php
07:11.52nevcairielive read that
07:11.56nevcairielbut i dont believe it :P
07:12.19NightHawkTheSanemeh, you'll believe it tomorrow when your game is patching
07:12.20nymbiawhat about the extended maint notice
07:12.27art3mishttp://12.129.232.127/background/WoW-2.0.12.6546-x86-Win-enUS-BKGND.torrent
07:12.32nevcairielhat what i was asking
07:12.34nevcairielif its there :p
07:12.39nevcairiel*that
07:12.41art3mistorrent link for use with a good client ;P
07:12.49evlPunkie`: I'm a bit unsure if murder 2/2, 2/4 might outperform 4/5 imp poisons after kara with less undeads
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07:13.03evlhttp Mirror: http://www.patchitbaby.com/
07:13.49art3mistorrent is better ;)
07:13.49Punkie`maybe evl, but master poisoner is also nice, although I'm unsure if it covers partial resists
07:13.53art3misits got partial 1 and 2
07:14.03evlPunkie`: Master is only nice for PVP
07:14.08evlPunkie`: and then it's a matter of "luck"
07:14.24evlPunkie`: since you have to hit before the resistance check is made.
07:14.35Punkie`well pre 2.1 even without that talent poisons are a pain in the ass to dispell anyway :P
07:14.47evlI'm talking PVE here :)
07:14.48nevcairielyeah because it was bugged
07:15.04evlin PVE i run zero poison talents and just cream everything into +damage pain
07:15.28evlpvp i mean
07:15.40art3misyeah well im so feared in pvp everyone makes a b-line straight for any location i happen to be at ;P
07:16.32Punkie`well tbh, im very glad that warrior commanding shout bug is getting fixed
07:16.44NimbleRabiterr
07:16.54NimbleRabitI had a warrior solo me 70% to 0
07:17.00NimbleRabitwhen he started at 10%
07:17.02NimbleRabitbecuse of that bug
07:17.26NimbleRabitmy stupid things wouldn't crit high enough with his resil and I couldn't hit for enough in 1 shot to kill him
07:17.32NimbleRabit= invincibl
07:18.04art3mismb+sw:d == dead warr ;P
07:18.23a-stray-catso if i have a branch of my addon and want to merge it into the trunk
07:18.27a-stray-cathow do i go about that ;X
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07:19.21ZealotOnAStickGngsk: 23, the season finale.
07:19.49ZealotOnAStickI'm damn impressed.  I know it's not propagated for -everyone- yet, but DNS propagation for the web host switch already processed for me.
07:20.33Punkie`Has anyoned watched the latest episode of heroes and is it awesome?! (no more info needed!) :D
07:20.47ZealotOnAStickYes, and yes.
07:20.56nevcairielI havent'yet
07:21.00Punkie`great stuff :)
07:21.08XuerianYes
07:21.09XuerianIs good
07:21.10Xuerian:p
07:21.27nevcairielbut i will in about 20 minutes when its downloaded :P
07:22.09Gngskgimmie torrent link plz
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07:23.29ZealotOnASticknot on eztv?
07:23.44Punkie`I got it from newsgroups
07:23.56ZealotOnAStickI just had the DVR record it in HD.
07:24.22XuerianI watched it on broadcast tv. win.
07:24.46Gngskwas raiding while it aired
07:24.55nevcairieli dont live in us :(^^
07:24.56Gngskcouldn't concentrate on both, tried last week and ended up having to watch it over
07:25.28Punkie`I live in UK, downloads ftw
07:26.03ZealotOnAStickI download my share of UK stuff here.
07:26.30ZealotOnAStickThanks for half a season of both Stargates early, and I'm current on my Dr Who.
07:31.15CIA-2303sorren * r36286 10SorrenTimers/ (18 files):
07:31.15CIA-23SorrenTimers:
07:31.15CIA-23- Merging in the 2.1 changes
07:31.36CIA-2303cryect * r36287 10Recount/Recount.toc: Recount - toc -> 20100
07:32.17CIA-2303cryect * r36288 10GraphLib/GraphLib.toc: GraphLib - toc -> 20100
07:32.58CIA-2303cryect * r36289 10BigBrother/BigBrother.toc: BigBrother - toc -> 20100
07:33.34CIA-2303cryect * r36290 10GPSLib/GPSLib.toc: GPSLib - toc -> 20100
07:33.57CIA-2303cryect * r36291 10Mode7/Mode7.toc: Mode7 - toc -> 20100
07:34.28CIA-2303cryect * r36292 10Mode7Test/Mode7Test.toc: Mode7Test - toc -> 20100 because why not
07:34.56nevcairielsomeones been busy
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07:35.42nevcairieli already picture it .. if i merge bt3 now, EU players update, and scream.
07:36.03CryectHeh my stuff just needed a TOC change
07:36.20KemayoWhat awesome things have happened in the 2.1 branch of bt3?
07:36.28nevcairielnot much really
07:36.35nevcairielits now using the state-stack features
07:36.43nevcairielwhich obviously wont work in 2.0 :P
07:37.10Silviu-nevcairiel i will scream !
07:37.13Silviu-:P
07:37.18CIA-2303cryect * r36293 10DungeonCrawler/ (DungeonCrawler.lua DungeonCrawler.toc): DungeonCrawler - toc -> 20100 and some other changes (maybe next time I get bored I will add a bunch more maps and options)
07:37.20CryectDO IT
07:37.24nevcairielplus it seems to work in 2.1
07:37.24NightHawkTheSanenevcairiel: ill totally give you a dollar to do it.
07:37.27Cryectcome on nevcairiel! DO IT
07:37.27nevcairieland trunk does not
07:37.42nevcairielnah
07:37.48nevcairielwhen i get home from university
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07:39.34Silviu-Ok, it seems later today i don`t have to update my addons or will crash :D
07:39.51CIA-2303cryect * r36294 10Protractor/Protractor.toc: Protractor - Updated toc -> 20100 >_> of course that should have been in since the first release <_<
07:40.04nevcairielwhats protractor do?
07:40.15XuerianGeez Cryect, you're one of those authors that comes out of nowhere and makes a zillion nifty mods :p
07:40.18CryectProfiler with pie charts
07:40.31nevcairieldoes it work ? :D
07:40.47Cryectlet me find a picture
07:40.56Cryecthttp://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2723/ktmperformaz6.jpg
07:41.03nevcairielanyway, my heroes finished
07:41.03Cryecthttp://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2562/memusageqo1.jpg
07:41.04nevcairielbbl
07:41.09Xuerianvery nifty
07:41.25Cryectand I really should like finish a few things meant for it
07:41.49Cryectand the editbox in lower right is for searching for individual functions in a table
07:41.59NightHawkTheSanebleh, the problem with having a pantheon with 27 significant gods is writing descriptions for all of them. /cry
07:42.15CryectHeh and should be a checkbox for switching to searching by name through _G as well
07:42.32art3misJeff is tall has blue eyes digs chicks that work out and eat right and his fav colour is blue
07:42.34Cryectdecide they are monothesists then
07:42.36art3mis;)
07:42.40Cryectwould be a lot easier!
07:42.55NightHawkTheSanemonotheism just doesn't work well in an rpg campaign setting. :P
07:43.05art3misnighthawk
07:43.09art3misuse the 3 great gods
07:43.12CryectI can't imagine 27 gods being good either
07:43.21Cryect27 gods sounds liek someone went overkill
07:43.27NightHawkTheSaneCryect: yeah, probably, but I just start making gods, and I kind of go overboard.
07:43.31art3misCaffiend, Nicotinus and Sucrosia
07:44.47sedatedChipmunklol
07:44.47CryectI mean how the fuck are you going to handle lower deities with 27 ruling ones?
07:44.51art3misXuerian: cyrect is gonna burn out in a brilliant flash and never be seen again ;P
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07:44.58Xuerianlol.
07:45.10XuerianSuch was the case with the last author who used vectors
07:45.13art3misoccasionally hell pop on as part of his 12 step ;P
07:45.15NightHawkTheSaneCryect: well, technically.. there's only 5 "major" deities, and 23 "minor" deities.
07:45.24art3misand apologize to everyone
07:45.32Cryectdid you just make up a new one inbetween the time of 27 and that sentence?
07:45.42NightHawkTheSane... hmm, no.
07:45.50NightHawkTheSanei may have miscounted at some point though
07:46.03art3misjust pretend one of them is both a major and am inor
07:46.05art3misminor
07:46.12art3misthen it's 27 ;)
07:46.14NightHawkTheSane28 gods, my bad.
07:46.20art3misyou cant have 28
07:46.26art3misthey'll stalemate
07:46.32sedatedChipmunklol
07:46.35NightHawkTheSaneNo, actually I remmeber I created a few extra gods just to get up to 28.
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07:46.45NightHawkTheSanecause 28's a perfect number.
07:46.48art3mispsst night
07:46.59art3misyou need an "In" in yer nick ;)
07:47.00sedatedChipmunkone for each day of the lunar cycle!
07:47.14Cryecthow about you go with 6
07:47.17NightHawkTheSanesedatedChipmunk: that assumes there's only one moon, and that it has a 28 day cycle.
07:47.18Cryectthats a perfec tnumber :-p
07:47.29NightHawkTheSaneCryect: 6 doesn't allow for nearly enough diversity
07:47.32sedatedChipmunkNightHawkTheSane: i do
07:47.34art3misquiet you pathagorian
07:47.37sedatedChipmunkso screw you
07:47.40Cryectwell then 496
07:47.54NightHawkTheSaneCryect: see, now you're just being absurd. ;)
07:48.09Cryectheh :-p
07:48.18art3misno he worships pythagoras
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07:48.30NightHawkTheSaneBesides, I suppose if you count Faen Gods, misc. Celestials/Archfiends, and whatnot, there could be ~500 gods. >.>
07:48.34CryectI rather worship Euler
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07:48.56art3misyou and yer euclidian hyjinx!
07:48.56sedatedChipmunkin Dijkstra we trust
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07:49.14Icerothhmh, i can already imagine what's going to happen tonight: i get home, hit my usual update script, get some food, remember that it's a bad thing to run updates today in EU, rush to the computer and see it's updating addons starting with Z or something and then bang my head to the wall for the rest of the evening. sad.
07:49.15art3misoh man
07:49.30NightHawkTheSaneIn a related note, I've always wanted to have a guild named 'Non-Euclidean Geometry'
07:49.31art3misthis school across from where my wife works has a quote from francis bacon above the door
07:49.38art3misbut they left off the francis part
07:49.41art3misand the dash
07:49.49art3misso it says the quote and then Bacon
07:49.55CartasNon-Euclidean Geometry?! That kind of geometry, NightHawkTheSane, does not exist!
07:49.58Cartas:P
07:49.58Cryectyou like your curved planes eh!
07:50.04art3mishahah
07:50.07NightHawkTheSanelol
07:50.08art3misNERDS~!!!!
07:50.26sedatedChipmunkwas the quote, "mmm" ?
07:50.27CartasIt's like saying... Non-Scientific Science!
07:50.36art3misScience: It works Bitches!
07:50.55art3missedatedChipmunk: i cant remember the whole thing but thats what i was thinking
07:51.00NightHawkTheSaneCartas: maybe you should look up non-euclidean geometry :p
07:51.10CartasI was only joking, old chap. Fret not!
07:51.22CryectShhh cartas believes in a flat world
07:51.28CartasIt's nice to know you care enough to attempt to teach me something though, thanks! <3
07:51.36CryectTHE WORLD IS FLAT
07:51.40NightHawkTheSanenah, actually i would have just called you rude names and linked to wikipedia
07:51.44NightHawkTheSane:D
07:51.44CartasNo it isn't... there are mountains on it!
07:51.56CartasHow can the world be flat, or a sphere?
07:51.58CartasImpossible!
07:52.12Cryectthose are just spacial distortions by the devil or one of NightHawkTheSane's 28 gods
07:52.29NightHawkTheSaneyeah, centripetal forces push out the center of the earth, so it's obviously not going to be a sphere. >.>
07:52.47art3mishttp://www.xkcd.com/c199.html
07:52.57SunTigermostly sphere, slightly oval.
07:53.15CIA-2303azonia * r36295 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (4 files):
07:53.15CIA-23FuBar_WhisperFu:
07:53.16CIA-23**Note**
07:53.16CIA-23Delete all spam key groups and reinstate them. There was a bug in two of them that was making WhisperFu ignore messages it shouldn't have been!
07:53.16CIA-23-Bugfix: spam key groups. "$" needs a "%" in front of it in order to be read correctly. Azonia fails at regexes... >Þ
07:53.18CIA-23-Added some missed locale words
07:53.19CartasThere are so many sides to the earth... it no doubt has over 10000000000 different sides!
07:53.20XuerianI don't... believe... I've ever seen SunTiger speak o_0
07:53.22CIA-23-TOC update
07:53.31SunTigerXuerian, lies.
07:53.34NightHawkTheSanei think oblate spheroid is the technical term.
07:53.41art3mishttp://www.xkcd.com/c217.html
07:53.46sedatedChipmunkXuerian: that's Moonwolf
07:53.46CartasOnly the top-quality intellectual studificating topics such as these can make SunTiger talk, Xuerian!
07:53.46rronkivdoes the person incharge of ag_unitframes or whatever, hang out in here?
07:53.52art3mishe did
07:53.55XueriansedatedChipmunk: But that would make sense.
07:54.01art3misbut one day he was sitting here eatting his cereal
07:54.05XueriansedatedChipmunk: Thus why I didn't think of it!
07:54.15XuerianSunTiger: Deceptionist! >.<
07:54.19XuerianCartas: Of course.
07:54.21art3misand he stood up screamed obsenities and ran off mumbling about bunnies and velcro
07:54.22sedatedChipmunksuntiger is his collision-secondary
07:54.26SunTigersuntiger/moonwolf talks only not a whole lot since he has more to do then talk about addons.
07:54.27art3mishavent seen him since
07:54.28Cartas:P
07:54.37Xuerian=O
07:54.40XuerianI resent that >.o
07:54.46NightHawkTheSaneSunTiger: are you implying something? :P
07:54.53SunTigerthat i have a job.
07:54.58NightHawkTheSane... touche.
07:54.59sedatedChipmunkno you don't
07:55.05sedatedChipmunkstop lying you filthy liar
07:55.06Cryectlets sit in an addon channel and not talk about addons in it!
07:55.23art3misa job?
07:55.30sedatedChipmunkmoonwolf is a Great Old One...he can sit where he likes and talk as he pleases
07:55.39SunTigerindeed
07:55.43art3misno sedated
07:55.49rronkivi have a feature request for that mod but i cant find out where to do it LOL
07:55.52NightHawkTheSanea great old one? do you know cthulu? can you get me his autograph?
07:55.59art3misthe great old ones live under the sea and await the rising of cthulu
07:56.06sedatedChipmunkand when he finally fixes XRaid, we will all stop hating him
07:56.13art3misthey dont hang out on irc ;P
07:56.30NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: well, i imagine they get -really- bored waiting for cthulu, so you know.. irc is easy enough
07:56.32art3miscept in sex channels pretending to be hot 18yos
07:56.43SunTigercthulu is grumpy, its best not to ask for autographs, he won't invite me for parties for a thousand years after.
07:56.56NightHawkTheSanedamn, that sucks.
07:56.59NightHawkTheSaneI bet he throws the best parties too.
07:57.07art3miswell you did lick his tentacles at that party and then vomit
07:57.17art3misit's totally understandable
07:57.39SunTigerI don't remember a thing.
07:57.45art3misNightHawkTheSane: but they have to wait for cthulu, he's got the car keys
07:57.46rronkivdoes anyone use ag? maybe its already possible, i want to make the party mebmers list horiz isted of vert.
07:58.03art3misits its in the settings somewhere
07:58.08art3mispoke around
07:58.12art3mispokeing is fun
07:58.25art3mistry that socket over there ;P
07:58.38Cryectcan't you just drag the party members where ever you wnat?
07:58.46art3misthey kind of link
07:59.01art3misbut the default is vert
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07:59.12art3mistehre is a setting in there to make em horizontal though
07:59.16CryectDidn't think they did in aguf then again haven't tried to move anything in aguf in a long time
07:59.18art3misbut dont remember specifically where
07:59.25CIA-2303sorren * r36296 10CooldownTimers2/ (. CooldownTimers2.toc Core.lua):
07:59.25CIA-23CooldownTimers2:
07:59.25CIA-23- Used a string from the globalstrings.lua instead of a localized "cooldown", fixed the toc to have proper optional deps, toc to 20100
07:59.56CartasHow come 5 people are called a party?
07:59.57art3misi think its a rows or columns setting
08:00.08art3mispythagoras
08:01.41rronkivthats art3mis
08:02.44krkame + 4 ne babes = party. me + 4 tauren male warriors = not party
08:03.39Cryect4 chan?
08:04.12Cartaslol, Krka.
08:04.16CartasMe + you = Party!
08:04.26CartasI'm a Tauren Male Warrior, however...!
08:04.50krka:(
08:07.33theoddone33have you seen the tauren dance? It's always a party
08:08.11CartasIndeed!
08:08.22CartasIt was so good, infact, they ended up nerfing it! :(
08:09.01rronkivFucking Bartender3 FUCKING did it a FUCKING gain and im ganna fucking I wish i could debug it!
08:09.50CartasDid what?
08:11.20Silviu-rronkiv ?
08:12.41sedatedChipmunkrronkiv: tell us how you really feel
08:13.03_icetraini think he passed out :)
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08:13.29sedatedChipmunkaneurysm
08:16.25CartasObviously he loves Bartender 3.
08:16.34nymbiaseriously
08:17.05CryectI think he wants nevcairiel to update the svn version to 2.1
08:18.51SunTigerpurl, poke rronkiv
08:19.03purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind rronkiv, pokes rronkiv repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
08:19.05rronkivlol
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08:19.07rronkivthe button thing
08:19.07nymbiaso
08:19.47rronkivsometimes, most of my buttons in bartender3 disapear untill i open the spellbook, when i close it they go bye bye again
08:19.47nymbiai hear rronkiv likes bartender3.  confirm/deny?
08:19.49SunTigernever had the problem ever.
08:19.51SunTigerweird.
08:20.01Cartasnymbia: Confirm.
08:20.13abbat_whi guys
08:20.24CartasHi old chap!
08:21.11Silviu-rronkiv try not to alt+tab when u login in game or zone or reloadui :) and try not to enter in combat in game :)
08:21.41sedatedChipmunkdon't cast spells either
08:21.52sedatedChipmunkand above all else, don't...ever...move!
08:22.11Silviu-^^
08:22.26abbat_wso guys, i was testing PitBull in pvp all night
08:22.32abbat_wsee only one bug
08:22.46abbat_wsometimes after res my power bar (mana bar) colored in gray, not blue
08:22.55sedatedChipmunkyea that's new
08:23.02abbat_wif i press alt+z twice - all ok
08:23.07SunTigerfixed it shall be soon.
08:23.13sedatedChipmunki noticed that today too
08:23.21abbat_wAnd also i want to ask about smaaal feature ;)
08:23.22sedatedChipmunkprobably all the modules folding in
08:23.33rronkivi dont alt tab during reload, zone or login
08:23.43CartasGood job, rronkiv.
08:23.44abbat_wTurning aura timers on/off by frame
08:23.45sedatedChipmunkrophy: do you cast spells?  or move?
08:23.58CIA-2303nymbia * r36297 10/ (2223 files in 649 dirs): .Tag a number of pre-2.0 addons and delete from trunk.
08:24.04sedatedChipmunks/rophy/rronkiv/
08:24.08sedatedChipmunkwtf
08:24.15abbat_wWhat about me, i need aura timers only on player / target frame
08:24.20Silviu-(2223 files ?? ;))
08:24.22abbat_wNot focus / tot frame
08:24.29vhaarrnymbia: :O
08:24.31abbat_wBut i can't turn off this ;(
08:24.47nymbiavhaarr: lol ;)
08:24.48abbat_wAnd i don't know who code bar fader for PitBull
08:24.52Fisker--y helo thar
08:24.55nymbiaonly 2223 files
08:24.58abbat_wBut this fader is insane sexy ;)
08:25.04Fisker--i said y helo thar nymbia
08:25.11Fisker--wtf r u doin? :o
08:25.35nymbiaFisker--: breaking things, obviously
08:26.05Fisker--:)
08:26.11nevcairielthat will clean trunk
08:26.12nevcairiel:o
08:26.42nymbiaa little ;)
08:27.37sedatedChipmunkdoesn't look any cleaner
08:27.45nevcairielnot really no :P
08:27.53nymbia:(
08:28.05nevcairieland nymbia used the . commit note exploit :o
08:28.17sedatedChipmunksploitz
08:28.19Cartas:(
08:28.24nymbiahey it doesnt look any cleaner, you're right
08:28.29nymbiathe commit's still processing
08:28.30nymbiarofl
08:29.01nevcairiellol
08:29.12CIA-2303fenlis * r36298 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (WhisperFuLocale-enUS.lua WhisperFuLocale-koKR.lua):
08:29.12CIA-23FuBar_WhisperFu:
08:29.12CIA-23- Updated localization koKR
08:29.13sedatedChipmunk[staharaj@hyperion]$ ace ls|wc  -->  693     694    9593
08:29.17nevcairielthere finally confirmed in blue
08:29.18nevcairielhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=286853753&pageNo=1&sid=1#0
08:29.21Fisker--that's gonna brreak stuff
08:29.22nevcairielnow its official :P
08:29.42nymbiaFisker--: ?
08:29.47Fisker--lead designer not official enough?
08:29.48AM|Ankkahey does anyone know an addon that would track all spell resists and spell haste etc procs per (boss) fight?
08:29.57sedatedChipmunkit wasn't official the first dozen times the dev team said it?
08:30.00Fisker--just wondering what would happen if the files script ran while it was committing :P
08:30.06nevcairielsedatedChipmunk: nop :P
08:30.32sedatedChipmunkFisker--: global destruction
08:30.40nymbiaFisker--: it'll probably run offa the previous revision
08:30.57nymbiai hope >.>
08:31.39nevcairielwho cares
08:31.43nevcairielthen it breaks once
08:31.48nevcairieland reruns 20 mins later
08:32.22nymbiayeah, i'm just hoping it doesnt knock the public server out of sync or something
08:33.58nymbiathere it goes
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08:35.34nymbiasexy.. http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt
08:35.42CIA-2303jerry * r36299 10FuBar_TimerFu/FuBar_TimerFu.toc: FuBar_TimerFu: toc -> 20100
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08:36.51nevcairielheh
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08:37.37Fisker--3 minutes until destruction
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08:38.35trhare you getting the patch on live today? =) (to the us-guys :)
08:39.07nymbiayup
08:39.48LePeR|Jauniaaww bulkmail doesn't have an open all feature :(
08:41.25CIA-2303kemayo * r36300 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Details/Details.lua Tracker/Tracker.lua):
08:41.25CIA-23FuBar_QuestsFu:
08:41.25CIA-23- Tweak handling of enabled/disabled for Details and Tracker.
08:41.50CIA-2303nevcairiel * r36301 10Bartender3/ (4 files):
08:41.50CIA-23Bartender3:
08:41.50CIA-23- merged 2.1 branch
08:41.50CIA-23- DO NOT USE WITH 2.0 - you have been warned
08:41.50abbat_wSole!
08:42.00Solesup
08:42.01nymbialol nevcairiel
08:42.01LePeR|Jauniato late
08:42.11Kemayonevcairiel: OMG BT3 IS BROKEEEEEEN!
08:42.23nymbianevcairiel: 10 minutes from now someone's gonna join and complain.
08:42.33nevcairieli know
08:42.34SoleHAY U GUSY WTF MY BARTEENDUR IS BOREKD! WTFHALP!!~!1
08:42.37nevcairielbut what do i care :P
08:42.51Soleabbat_w: wut?
08:42.52abbat_wSole, if you remember, i ask you about filters in Antagonist. So, filters works ok. But sometimes Antagonist produce an error and filters won't work
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08:42.54CIA-2303kemayo * r36302 10FuBar_ToFu/FuBar_ToFu.toc: FuBar_ToFu: 20100.
08:42.57nevcairielits only breaking shapeshifting tho
08:43.05nevcairieland all other bar changing
08:43.06nevcairielmm
08:43.07Soleabbat_w: well that sucks I guess
08:43.09nevcairielah whatever
08:43.09Silviu-nevcairiel omg my bt3 is not working anymore o.O why ???
08:43.14Soleabbat_w: what do you want me to do bout it?
08:43.20CIA-2303sorren * r36303 10CooldownTimers2/Core.lua:
08:43.20CIA-23CooldownTimers2:
08:43.20CIA-23- Argharadjf I hate when I forget to remove debug stuff.
08:43.21Silviu-;)
08:43.38CIA-2303kemayo * r36304 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.toc: AuldLangSyne: 20100.
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08:43.51Soleabbat_w: on a serious note, whats the error message?
08:43.56CIA-2303kemayo * r36305 10SilverDragon/SilverDragon.toc: SilverDragon: 20100
08:43.58nevcairieli even had to downgrade my own version because i am on EU :P
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08:44.16abbat_wSole, attemt to concatenate unit (unit is nil)
08:44.20Silviu-nevcairiel me too we only get it tomorrow ;)
08:44.26abbat_wIn function which do kill bars
08:44.30CIA-2303kemayo * r36306 10FuBar_KungFu/FuBar_KungFu.toc: FuBar_KungFu: 20100.
08:44.36Wraangerhello 2 all
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08:44.53CIA-2303kemayo * r36307 10QuestsFu_Detached/QuestsFu_Detached.toc: QuestsFu_Detached: 20100.
08:44.57SoleFuBar_KungFu!? I have to check this shit out now
08:45.01CIA-2303jerry * r36308 10ItemBonusLib/ (ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua ItemBonusLib.toc): ItemBonusLib: fix for AceLibrary cleaning my upvalue, also toc -> 20100
08:45.02abbat_wSole: if not id then id = "Antagonist-"..unit.."-"..spell.."-"..group end
08:45.04Solehi2u strangur
08:45.09Soleabbat_w: ahh
08:45.09Silviu-Must keep my hands away today from update script ^^
08:45.11CIA-2303kemayo * r36309 10Quixote/Quixote.toc: Quixote: 20100.
08:45.25abbat_wSole: And sometimes unit is nil. Don't know why but i do some debug ;)
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08:45.37LePeR|Jauniawth is kungfu
08:45.41Soleabbat_w: well its nil when you dont recieve a name
08:45.43CIA-2303jerry * r36310 10lern2count/lern2count.toc: lern2count: toc -> 20100
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08:45.55KemayoLePeR|Jaunia: It's a fubar plugin with skills info.
08:45.56nevcairielwhen is US downtime anyway?
08:46.04nevcairielin like 1 or 2 hours right?
08:46.08trhLePeR|Jaunia: martial art sports ;)
08:46.10LePeR|Jauniawhat about karate chop skills?
08:46.15KemayoLePeR|Jaunia: I admit to making it entirely for the awful name.  Much like ToFu.
08:46.15Soleabbat_w: I can add a simple check to return if unit is nil but Im curious why the hell its nil in the first place
08:46.24CIA-2303jerry * r36311 10Talented/Talented.toc: Talented: toc -> 20100
08:46.28abbat_wSole, but filters is insabe great idea.
08:46.29LePeR|Jauniahehe
08:46.42Soleabbat_w: insabe?
08:46.47abbat_wSole, insane ;)
08:46.48Silviu-Later today files server will crash for sure :)
08:46.55nevcairielof course
08:46.57nevcairiellike always
08:46.58Soleabbat_w: nothing revolutionary :P
08:47.25abbat_wMaybe, but great for arena. No more bars spam
08:47.29KemayoWell.  I have bumped the toc on all my addons.  Now to put them on addon sites, so my users can test for me whether they actually work on 2.1!
08:47.33Silviu-Hope renchap`s svn will stay on ^^
08:47.34abbat_wOnly see what i need
08:47.47nevcairielKemayo: heh
08:48.10KemayoI'm lazy.  And if everyone has to redownload a fixed version, well, my stats look better! :D
08:48.21LePeR|Jauniahaha
08:48.55renchapSilviu-: should be ok
08:49.00renchapand my files mirror too
08:49.02Daemonai wonder there isnt a script that simply will .toc-update all addons that got a line "2.1 compliant" ;)
08:49.16CIA-2303jerry * r36312 10Talented_Data/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Talented_Data: toc -> 20100
08:49.21LePeR|Jauniaused to be
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08:49.45rronkivis there a way
08:49.45Silviu-renchap juhu :P
08:49.52rronkivto make a blank, little window
08:50.11rronkivthat i could put behind my blizzard standard UI quest tracker..
08:50.25rronkivso i could make it a lil transparent but dark easier to read?
08:50.49LePeR|Jauniaeepanels can
08:51.12rronkivwhat bout bartender3?
08:51.31LePeR|Jauniauh thats for bars
08:52.02CIA-2303athou * r36313 10EnchantList/EnchantList.toc:
08:52.02CIA-23EnchantList:
08:52.02CIA-23- toc update
08:52.08LePeR|Jauniahehe its late.. um eepanels you can use for anything really
08:52.43theoddone33I used eepanels to make a little red box for my offensive spells and a little green box for my healing spells
08:52.43CIA-2303athou * r36314 10MultiTips/MultiTips.toc:
08:52.44CIA-23MultiTips:
08:52.44CIA-23- toc update
08:53.01LePeR|Jauniacould just get questfu and change the tooltip background color
08:53.08LePeR|Jauniafor your quest tracker
08:53.11CIA-2303athou * r36315 10Taggle/Taggle.toc:
08:53.12CIA-23Taggle:
08:53.12CIA-23- toc update
08:53.34LePeR|Jauniamight be annoying if you have the background when you have no tracked quests
08:53.58CIA-2303ammo * r36316 10CrowBar/CrowBar.toc: CrowBar: toc => 20100
08:54.24CIA-2303ammo * r36317 10LockSmith/LockSmith.toc: LockSmith: toc => 20100
08:55.43CIA-2303ammo * r36318 10Necronomicon2/Necronomicon2.toc: Necronomicon2: toc => 20100
08:55.55CIA-2303athou * r36319 10ArenaMaster/ArenaMaster.toc:
08:55.55CIA-23ArenaMaster:
08:55.55CIA-23- toc update
08:56.40CIA-2303athou * r36320 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/ (. FuBar_CraftTimersFu.toc):
08:56.40CIA-23FuBar_CraftTimersFu:
08:56.41CIA-23- toc update
08:56.41CIA-2303ammo * r36321 10Postal/Postal.toc: Postal: toc => 20100
08:57.19Frittisomething tells me it's patch time
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08:57.31nymbianaw
08:57.47nevcairielheh we just decided to cancel the raid on wednesday
08:57.51nevcairiel"never play on patch day"
08:58.11Silviu-I think we have to cancel it too
08:58.15CIA-2303ammo * r36322 10SRA/SRA.toc: SRA: Same Reason Applies
08:58.18Silviu-Depends how servers go
08:58.53Icerothi just wonder what are they doing with every patch... they've been patching the game for what, 2 years now with regular basis and they _always_ fuck it up in some way and realms _never_ come online when they are supposed to
08:59.05nevcairielwe canceld it so that people can get their addons up2date, check out some new stuff, and be ready for thursday then :)
08:59.12nymbia[Ammo]: that one was actually pretty witty O.o
08:59.23CIA-2303ckknight * r36323 10PitBull/ (26 files in 26 dirs): PitBull - bump to 20100
08:59.47FrittiIceroth: yeah, you'd think they'd have some test procedures in place by now
09:00.14CIA-2303ammo * r36324 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: WitchHunt: toc => 20100
09:00.18CIA-2303ckknight * r36325 10Ace2/ (14 files in 13 dirs): Ace2 - bump to 20100
09:00.24[Ammo]nymbia: thanks :)
09:00.56nevcairieli need to remind myself to not hit my svn update script this evening
09:01.05Frittihehe
09:01.28CIA-2303ammo * r36326 10Squeenix/Squeenix.toc: Squeenix: toc => 20100
09:01.40nevcairieli am not exactly sure what happens when i run the 2.1 BT3 on 2.0
09:01.52nevcairieli think it might just cause errors on the securetemplate code
09:02.03Icerothwill the new map rotate feature cause any problems with squeenix or cartographer?
09:02.13[Ammo]it should not
09:02.20[Ammo]carto was patched for it
09:02.23ckknight_Iceroth: I fixed that on day zero for Cartographer
09:02.24[Ammo]squeenix requires no patching
09:02.36Icerothkk, good to hear :)
09:02.44Icerothi'd imagine i wanna try that feature
09:02.58[Ammo]it's a silly feature ;)
09:03.05[Ammo]imho
09:03.11Silviu-[Ammo] so squeenix works ?
09:04.30Icerothdoes it come with some arrow or something that points to north or in some other way indicates to what direction you are facing?
09:04.31nevcairielEnabling and disabling buttons is now protected functionality and may not be called on secure frames while in combat, as of 2.1.2. :/
09:04.32Silviu-With that new feature i mean
09:04.32[Ammo]not the NESW stuff
09:04.32[Ammo]but the rest works
09:04.32Silviu-Ok :)
09:04.32nymbiathe texture itself gets rotated
09:04.32nymbiaso there's no way to make a square minimap out of it
09:04.32Silviu-ckknight_ u saw that private message i sent u with gery bar after dead ?
09:04.32[Ammo]nymbia: oh?
09:04.39[Ammo]well I must admit I didn't test map rotation
09:04.47CIA-2303nymbia * r36327 10cyCircled/cyCircled.toc:
09:04.47CIA-23cyCircled:
09:04.47CIA-23- Bump toc to 20100
09:04.47[Ammo]but I don't use that so shrug :)
09:05.13nymbia[Ammo]: yeah, the whole damn square rotates if it's not masked with a circle
09:05.24nevcairielheh
09:05.28nevcairielthat sucks
09:05.29CIA-2303nymbia * r36328 10FuBar_MailFu/FuBar_MailFu.toc:
09:05.29CIA-23FuBar_MailFu:
09:05.29CIA-23- Bump toc to 20100
09:05.43[Ammo]nymbia: kinda nifty :)
09:05.51abbat_wah, thats ckk
09:05.53Arrowmasterwhat if you dont set a border texture
09:05.58Arrowmasterjust change the mask
09:06.05CIA-2303nymbia * r36329 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/FuBar_MicroMenuFu.toc:
09:06.06CIA-23FuBar_MicroMenuFu:
09:06.06CIA-23- Bump toc to 20100
09:06.08CIA-2303trh * r36330 10VanasKoS/VanasKoS.toc: VanasKoS: peer pressure... must...resist...to...bump...toc...to...20100...oh..too..late
09:06.08ckknightPitBull_AuraTimers doesn't exist, don't know what you're talking about
09:06.21abbat_wckk, i mean pitbull_aura
09:06.26CIA-2303nymbia * r36331 10FuBar_ModMenuTuFu/FuBar_ModMenuTuFu.toc:
09:06.26CIA-23FuBar_ModMenuTuFu:
09:06.27CIA-23- Bump toc to 20100
09:06.35[Ammo]what he probably means is tiny numbers ticking down on debuffs
09:06.44CIA-2303nymbia * r36332 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/FuBar_NameToggleFu.toc:
09:06.44CIA-23FuBar_NameToggleFu:
09:06.44CIA-23- Bump toc to 20100
09:07.04Silviu-But those numbers are already there :)
09:07.09abbat_wckknight, can you add please feature to separate turn off timers inside aura icons. For example, turn off for focus/tot/party frames but show for player/target. Like Portrait
09:07.11Silviu-At least on my buffs :P
09:07.20LePeR|Jaunianevcairiel: i shall find out if it breaks
09:07.28Arrowmasteri thought the ace community were the people in the past to not push out updates with nothing but a changed toc since theres a load out of date addons option?
09:07.37ckknightabbat_w: ... you do it
09:07.53ckknightabbat_w: I don't see a need
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09:08.17trhArrowmaster: yeah.. try telling that 50 complaining idiots that the addon doesnt work anymore :(
09:08.19[Ammo]Arrowmaster: there were a few advocates for that, but there's also people ignoring that
09:08.50abbat_wckknight, party buff icons is small and timers are bad readable.
09:09.00ckknightthey're all the same size for me.
09:09.11nymbiatoc updates imply compatibility.
09:09.17abbat_wckknight, and PitBull nice. BarFader (don't know who write it) is just sexy ;)
09:09.25ckknightJoshBorke and nymbia
09:09.33Arrowmasternymbia: btw ptbrowser had an issue on ptr
09:09.40abbat_wnymbia :-*
09:10.18abbat_wckk, so i try to turn off timers for some frames by self ;)
09:10.21nymbiaArrowmaster: what broke?
09:10.35Arrowmasterit became LoD
09:10.38Healthbar fader isn't sexy! it doesn't have the nice highlight feature
09:10.42Arrowmasterwith nothing to load it
09:10.49ckknightHealth: highlight feature?
09:11.22HealthThe portion that will fade gets a highlight before it fades away
09:11.29Arrowmastersince FuBar only loads stuff with reqdep of FuBar
09:11.33Healthan extra frame
09:11.40Healthnymbia broke it!
09:11.44nymbiaArrowmaster: FuBar should load it, afaik
09:11.48Arrowmasterit wont
09:11.53nevcairielckknight: the text from my unit frames disappeard again. reloadui generally fixes that, but it happens once in a while after first login.. thats somewhat annoying :P
09:12.01LePeR|Jaunianevcairiel: well it seems bt3 hasn't went nuts on me yet
09:12.05ckknightnevcairiel: any errors?
09:12.07LePeR|Jaunia:)
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09:12.14theoddone33A couple of months ago, World of Warcraft's Warlocks found a workaround for the Dark Portal's level requisite of 60 via their Ritual of Summoning spell. <-- worst article opening ever
09:12.16nevcairielckknight: nothing, just no text on any bars.
09:12.28Kemayockknight: I got that too just now.
09:12.38CIA-2303ckknight * r36333 10/trunk/ (11 files in 11 dirs): FuBar - bump FuBar and the plugins which I wrote to 20100
09:12.54Arrowmasternymbia: theres no way to get the loadmanagers toc field ingame so fubar wont load it since it only loads stuff thats reqdep to fubar
09:12.55trhtheoddone33: total BS, the level prerequirement is 58
09:13.07theoddone33yeah
09:13.14theoddone33and summon is a spell every warlock can train
09:13.20theoddone33it's not a workaround for anything
09:13.28theoddone33they "found" it, heh
09:13.28nymbiaArrowmaster: yeah i just saw that.
09:13.32nymbiackknight: ping
09:13.36trhtheoddone33: and a mage can make a portal to shattrath too ^^
09:13.37nevcairielckknight: even reproducable now. no text after login, reloadui shows it then
09:13.50Arrowmasternymbia: bug slouken to fix it imho because as is loadmanagers is useless
09:14.52nymbiaArrowmaster: naw it can be solved easily by having FuBar look for a metadata field -OR- a reqdep
09:14.59theoddone33afterwards they ask some player who was leveling in outland at 55 if she thought she was exploiting
09:15.02theoddone33heh
09:15.07LePeR|Jaunialol
09:15.13theoddone33hey I used to work with slouken
09:15.13LePeR|Jauniasad sad very sad
09:15.16theoddone33<PROTECTED>
09:15.27Healthplease tell us more!
09:15.34Healthdid you make out?
09:15.41theoddone33not much
09:15.53CIA-2303ckknight * r36334 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
09:15.53CIA-23DogTag-1.0 - possibly fix bug where text doesn't show up.
09:15.53CIA-23- make sure to update all texts on PLAYER_LOGIN
09:15.54ckknightnymbia: what's the issue?
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09:16.10theoddone33does he not use openprojects anymore?
09:16.14Arrowmasternymbia: but then really for any loadmanager to work properly it would require metadate in the toc too, imho it should work without any metadata
09:16.26dudevon-awayhihi, is there a wowace repository of 2.10 addons?
09:16.38ckknightdudevon-away: the SVN?
09:16.38Arrowmasterdudevon-away: yes files.wowace.com
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09:16.45ckknightyea, files.
09:16.58ckknightalso, I don't know why every stupid fuck is calling it 2.10 instead of 2.1.0
09:17.01nevcairiellets see if that fixes it
09:17.03dudevon-awayWowAce.com's Files - WoW2.0 only - misleading header :/
09:17.18HealthI call it 2.1!
09:17.21[dRaCo]oh noes, patchday
09:17.23nevcairielthats true
09:17.23ckknightdudevon-away: it's being looked into
09:17.24HealthIs that fuck stupid too?
09:17.31LePeR|Jaunialol
09:17.31ckknightHealth: nope, not at all.
09:17.40Healthgood shit
09:17.42[Ammo]on the other hand ckk, it's health asking
09:17.43ckknightHealth: yours is quite correct
09:17.49Arrowmastersomebody bug kael to change it to WoW2.x
09:17.50[Ammo]so lets call him stupid just for the sake of calling him that
09:17.53ckknightI suppose
09:17.55nymbiackknight: i'd like to use LoadManagers on FuBar plugins to have them LoD if fubar is present, and normal-loaded if fubar is not, but fubar will only demand-load an addon if it has a requireddep of Fubar (which kills using loadmanagers) -- mind if i tweak fubar's LoD sequence to look for a metadata field as an alternative to the ReqDep?
09:17.57ckknightArrowmaster: *shrug*
09:18.22nevcairielfun a #132 while logging in
09:18.25nevcairieli blame dogtag!
09:18.35ckknightnymbia: wasn't LoadManagers supposed to have the manager be part of the Dependencies as well, i.e. that GetAddOnDependencies("addon") would return it?
09:18.48Arrowmasterckknight: i tested on last ptr and it didnt
09:18.56nymbiackknight: i think it treats them as an optdep, i'll check.
09:18.56Arrowmasterckknight: which is why i said to bug slouken to fix it
09:19.00nymbiaah
09:19.08ckknightArrowmaster: yes, Slouken should be bugged
09:19.16ckknightnymbia: don't add anything yet
09:19.18nymbiaok
09:19.54nevcairielckknight: with the latest DogTag text shows. at least now .. will try logging in and out a few times
09:21.05nevcairiel2 #132 in a row
09:21.07nevcairielsomething is broken
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09:22.25Healthhide! the french is here
09:22.49Silviu-nevcairiel i had 4
09:22.56Silviu-Then i reseted my Pitbull savedvars
09:23.13Silviu-That was yesterday when ckk added all other modules in
09:23.13nevcairieli dont want to :(
09:23.18nevcairielmm
09:23.22nevcairielmaybe i should
09:23.27nevcairieloh well nothing todo anyway
09:23.32Silviu-;)
09:23.37ckknightnevcairiel: lemme test something
09:23.45Silviu-I could not even login
09:23.49Silviu-loading screen crash
09:23.59Silviu-And then disabled Pitbull and all was ok :)
09:24.06nymbiashit's getting more and more unstable in the lua layer these days, these kinds of crashes shouldn't be happening so much.
09:24.16CIA-2303ckknight * r36335 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - potentially fix something.
09:24.16Silviu-Then just deleted it, and saved vars redownload resetup all works ok :)
09:24.26nymbiaits only very recently, too
09:24.31Silviu-Yeah
09:24.42ckknightnevcairiel: test
09:24.46nymbialike since 2.0.10 ish
09:24.54Arrowmasterwas it like this since the move to 5.1? or sometime later?
09:25.08Arrowmasternvm
09:25.27ckknightI can almost guarantee it's due to the secure bullshit system rather than the 5.1 switch
09:25.48nevcairielyea
09:25.56nevcairiellol another #132
09:26.02nevcairieland i even deleted my SVs now
09:26.23nevcairielthat started for me yesterday
09:26.29ckknightk, I dunno
09:26.45ckknightI'm just going to bury my head in the sand and hope it's fixed in the 2.1 switch
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09:27.04ckknightharldephin: PitBull never had it, SharedMedia did.
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09:27.32nevcairieland another
09:27.33Silviu-nevcairiel try redownload Pitbull ? don`t know :(
09:27.34nevcairieli cant login
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09:27.41Silviu-Yes i had that yesterday
09:27.41kebinusanIs there anything besides unit frame mods that I might need to worry about breaking tomorrow
09:28.01abbat_w;)
09:28.03abbat_wyep
09:28.07abbat_wdefault blizzard ui
09:28.07ckknightkebinusan: PitBull works fine, but I dunno, there could be other things
09:28.20abbat_wckknight, PitBull have smaaaal bug now ;)
09:28.23harldephinckknight: ok. then.. where has SharedMedia's 'Smooth' texture disappeared to ?
09:28.26Matrix110US got/is getting patch today?
09:28.33nymbiatyp
09:28.38nymbias/typ/yup/
09:28.40ckknightharldephin: ...please don't make me stoop to your level
09:28.43Matrix110nice
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09:28.50Matrix110finally i can do something ingame again
09:29.01nevcairielpitbull disabled, no crashes
09:29.02nevcairiel:/
09:29.05nymbiaharldephin: looking at it right now.
09:29.10abbat_wckknight with power bar. Sometimes my mana bar after res gray, not blue. This is one bug what i see. I play all night at bgs
09:29.26ckknightabbat_w: with the updated version?
09:29.39harldephinnymbia: ah. ok.
09:29.43kebinusanyeah, was just looking at the patch notes I was going to try and mirror some mods that might break for my guild, and the secure header change was the only only one that stuck out
09:29.46Matrix110hmm
09:29.48abbat_wckk, i got last version tonight
09:29.58Matrix110i just hope i didnt made a mistake by updating with WAU^^
09:30.06Matrix110*pray*
09:30.28nymbiaMatrix110: lol
09:30.29harldephini don't mean to push anyone, ok? i just said i wonder where it went, that's all.
09:30.48Matrix110well could be that some mods stop working until tomorrow:P
09:31.44[dRaCo]ckk: looks like a dogtag bug: http://ace.pastey.net/37749
09:32.30ckknight[dRaCo]: update
09:33.08abbat_wah, btw, nymbia also make eye candy mod ;) StatStain
09:33.37nymbiaabbat_w: wait, huh?
09:34.37abbat_wnymbia, i setup tonight StatStain. They make my items stats more colorised ;)
09:34.57nevcairielckknight: i think one of the modules causes that, i made PitBull LoD and disabled all that funky stuff which is new in the core as of yesterday, and no crashes anymore, let me see if i can track down which.
09:35.04abbat_wAnd with RatingBuster item stats looks great
09:35.20ckknightnevcairiel: pants.
09:35.43nymbiaabbat_w: careful, you get addicted and won't like looking at uncolored items ;)
09:36.29Silviu-nevcairiel i did it lod too
09:36.32harldephinuncoloured items are invisible
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09:36.44Silviu-Before i did not have it like so but with all this new modules
09:36.56Silviu-Strange indeed ;)
09:37.06nymbiaCHANNEL POLL: is nymbia masochistic enough tonight to update addons on curse?
09:37.13abbat_werrgh...
09:37.19[dRaCo]nope
09:37.27ZealotOnAStickDo it now before it gets hosed.
09:37.32abbat_wNo cummulative patch from 2.0.0 -> 2.1.0 ;(
09:37.50harldephinwell, take your time.
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09:40.14theoddone33oh man I love this python script someone stuck on the forums to update ace mods
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09:41.47NightHawkTheSanethat'd be Kemayo probably
09:41.52theoddone33yes
09:42.03theoddone33I forgot how easy stuff can be with scripts
09:42.07theoddone33but that was great
09:46.02Diaois everything being updated to 2.1?
09:46.12Diaoif so i'm going to update now before the fileserver crashes tomorrow :x
09:46.23LePeR|Jauniayep
09:46.38Diaoalright
09:46.39Diaotime to update
09:46.44TheKarnmake sure you use 1.8.21
09:46.47Diaoi am
09:46.49renchapyou can use http://files-wowace.renchap.com
09:46.54renchapthis mirror works fine
09:47.03Diaotoo late :P
09:47.05Diaoalready started my updaet
09:47.06Diaolol
09:47.08renchapif there is too many peaple i will make another mirror :)
09:47.37Diaoi want my own server so i can host stuff :(
09:48.33theoddone33sweet, mods updated, patch downloading... time for sleep
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09:48.35nevcairielhahaha, ckknight: well no crashes now, but text disappeared again :P
09:49.49[dRaCo]ckk: same error after updating
09:50.05CIA-2303phyber * r36336 10Fizzle/Fizzle.toc:
09:50.06CIA-23Fizzle:
09:50.06CIA-23- TOC update
09:50.52CIA-2303phyber * r36337 10BagSlots/BagSlots.toc:
09:50.52CIA-23BagSlots:
09:50.52CIA-23- TOC update to 20100
09:50.54[dRaCo]could it be because I'm still on 2.0.9?
09:51.09nevcairielwhy are you on 2.0.9 ? :o
09:51.28[dRaCo]uh. it's 2.0.12 atm, isnt it?
09:51.33[dRaCo]latest europe version
09:51.42CIA-2303phyber * r36338 10Cosplay/Cosplay.toc:
09:51.43CIA-23Cosplay:
09:51.43CIA-23- TOC update to 20100
09:52.04CIA-2303gandharva * r36339 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.toc:
09:52.04CIA-23Mendeleev:
09:52.04CIA-23- toc > 20100
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09:52.39CIA-2303gandharva * r36340 10MountMe/MountMe.toc:
09:52.39CIA-23MountMe
09:52.39CIA-23- toc > 20100
09:52.55CIA-2303phyber * r36341 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.toc:
09:52.56CIA-23ManaPerc:
09:52.56CIA-23- TOC update to 20100
09:53.07nevcairielsomeone should turn off CIA-23 for the duration
09:53.42CIA-2303phyber * r36342 10SeriousBuffTimers/SeriousBuffTimers.toc:
09:53.42CIA-23SeriousBuffTimers:
09:53.43CIA-23- TOC update to 20100
09:53.55phyber/ignore is your friend ;)
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09:55.08CIA-2303phyber * r36343 10XPBarNone/XPBarNone.toc:
09:55.08CIA-23XPBarNone:
09:55.08CIA-23- TOC update to 20100.
09:56.00CIA-2303phyber * r36344 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc:
09:56.00CIA-23FuBar_TopScoreFu:
09:56.00CIA-23- TOC update to 20100
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09:56.39CIA-2303phyber * r36345 10FuBar_DuraTek/FuBar_DuraTek.toc:
09:56.39CIA-23FuBar_DuraTek:
09:56.39CIA-23- TOC update to 20100
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09:57.58xlviimmm.. trying to decide what class i should reroll. is rolling a paladin worth it even though they're being nerfed?
09:58.14CIA-2303phyber * r36346 10FuBar_NetStatsFu/FuBar_NetStatsFu.toc:
09:58.14CIA-23FuBar_NetStatsFu:
09:58.14CIA-23- while ( ne 20100) { ++; }
09:58.18xlviii want to be useful in raids, and actually get spots in them.. not like i do on my rogue.
09:58.27phyberdamn shell.  it removed my $toc, doh.
09:58.28Daemonaxlvii
09:58.34Daemonayou will be wanted in the raid in 2.1
09:58.36Daemona;)
09:58.41Daemonayour dps will own anything
09:58.43[dRaCo]gogogo tank pala.
09:58.51nevcairieli even now like rogues in the raids
09:58.56nevcairieltheir dps is good now.
09:59.10nevcairiel(or all our casters suck balls)
09:59.12Daemonaxlvii -> balanced rogue dps: http://www.koaschten.de/wow/ptr/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_051907_195611.jpg
09:59.12kebinusanrogues are nice for sustained dps, give them a shaman and a warrior and leave them to their happy selves
09:59.21[dRaCo]yeah, but they require a lot of additional healing
09:59.30Daemonaadd a druid and my screenshot happens ;)
09:59.56Diaowhat about a marks hunter!
10:00.04nevcairielwe generally have a warrior feral and hunter for the dps groups
10:00.06nevcairielno melee shamans
10:00.17Diaoalso
10:00.22Diaowhat is that "dmg loss" thing
10:00.32AM|Ankkawas about to ask the same thing :p
10:00.34Diaoand the yellow bar on the left side
10:00.48[dRaCo]damn, I want that axe.
10:00.50AM|Ankkaexp/rep bar?
10:00.50evlDaemona: giev armory link :D
10:00.52xlviidaemona, your gear is probably awesome though.. no one wants me.
10:00.59rronkivwhere can i learn how to write lua
10:01.06Diaowww.lua.org
10:01.15rronkivok, lua for wow
10:01.23ZealotOnAStick~pil
10:01.37purlhmm... pil is Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1.
10:01.37Daemonaxlvii pm me your armory link, i could give some hints i guess ;)
10:01.39Daemonaevl that dps is done with ptr gear
10:01.43evlDaemona: ahh h:)
10:01.49ZealotOnAStickWowWiki also has some stuff on wow-specific lua.  But, start with pil
10:01.55Daemonabut with live realm weapons ^^
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10:02.01Diaoso Daemona what mods are those
10:02.07phyberhmm.  how do you make a vertical bar like that, is there a nice piece of Lua somewhere that I can just push into XPBarNone to give a Vertical option?
10:02.10Daemonai asked if gm could spawn me a talon of azshara but no i had to use my hope ender :(
10:02.16evlwookierogue's are fun. i sometimes miss mine :/
10:02.20evlDaemona: I'm looking forward to it, I do not however like the fact that Gladiator Shanker + Shiv is such an insane upgrade from say... Nightblade or Riftmaker compared to how easy they are to obtain
10:02.26TheKarnpurl, pil is also the Python Imaging Library
10:02.30purlTheKarn: okay
10:02.43harldephinis there something like an IsFriend() ? - to check whether a certain player is already on the current friends list or not ?
10:02.50Daemonaevl... buffed malchazeen is evil, add a searing sunblade and you got a better combo
10:03.07xlviidaemona, did you get it?
10:03.08Diaohttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetFriendInfo
10:03.30evlDaemona: Year but I'm combat mutilate and shiv outperforms sunblade in that department
10:03.35Chompers2.1
10:03.38Chompershoray!
10:03.43evlDaemona: Malachazeen is nice yeah but it's not THAT insane compare to shanker
10:03.58harldephinDiao: thanks.
10:04.04xlviidaemona, join #roguelol
10:04.10Diaonp
10:05.05DiaoDaemona what is the "DMG LOSS:2.02%" addon and the yellow bar along the left side of your screen in that ss? o_O
10:05.14DaemonaDiao be more specific? aah ok
10:05.23evlwookiei went fists on my rogue. got over the "u must be behind your target" with daggers lol
10:05.46DaemonaGlancingMeter from curse-gaming
10:06.06nevcairielis the glancing buff that extreme anyway?
10:06.44ZealotOnAStickSupposedly around a 15% increase in damage for rogues and warriors.
10:06.53nevcairielthats insane :P
10:07.01Diaowtf
10:07.02Diao15%
10:07.05Diaono wonder they nerfed flurry
10:07.12NightHawkTheSaneIt's not 15%
10:07.22Icerothhow much do rogues and warriors do white dmg in 2.0? compared to yellow ofc
10:07.26nevcairielanyway, from looking at the screenshot there
10:07.30nevcairielrogues will be happy ;)
10:07.30evlwookiewow back to my rogue i think l ol
10:07.52NightHawkTheSaneI think last I saw it was much closer to ~5% for rogues
10:07.56Diaooh
10:08.04Megalonwell for warriors
10:08.05Diaofor warriors white damage is probably 50%+ of their damage
10:08.11Megalonless glancing blows also means more rage
10:08.33Diaobut most warriors are rage capped when dpsing anyway
10:08.38Diaoany extra rage goes to cleaves/slams
10:08.45Diaoor HS if your tank is extremely good
10:08.52Icerothmy druid has 30-40% white dmg, closer to 30% really
10:09.08Icerothso just trying to figure how much the glanding buff is going to help me :)
10:09.45Diaoless glancing also means more threat generated
10:09.50ZealotOnAStickIceroth: would you consider adding an option to IceHud to select statusbar textures for the ToT bar from SharedMedia, so I don't have to keep hacking the module?
10:09.53Diaoso people will have to back off more often
10:10.11TheKarni'm wondering why Antiarc hadnt yet put PT support into SanityItemCache
10:10.29IcerothZealotOnAStick, yeah prolly, i'll try to remember :)
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10:11.13Guest40475oi
10:11.14CIA-2303nymbia * r36347 10Quartz/Quartz.toc:
10:11.14CIA-23Quartz:
10:11.14CIA-23- Add X-RelSite-WoWI toc field.
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10:11.38Diaothat was strange
10:13.04Borked|Raiderhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21959/ i was told i could do that to intercept whispers (example) but prat gives me errors
10:13.16Borked|Raiderhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21960/
10:13.17Borked|Raiderwith errors
10:13.54CIA-2303jayhawk * r36348 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (FuBar_PetInfoFu.toc PetInfoFu.lua):
10:13.54CIA-23FuBar_PetInfoFu:
10:13.54CIA-23- update TOC to 20100 and removed debug message
10:14.19Diaohm
10:17.56nevcairielprat breaks anything that wants to touch any chat stuff
10:18.12Cartaslol
10:18.28sylvanaaryou have to know what you are doing, otherwise, you will mess everything up
10:18.48CartasI noticed that a few WoWAcers don't look too highly upon Prat!
10:18.55nevcairielits no secret that prat does not work very well with any other chat addons :P
10:19.01sylvanaarright
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10:19.23Borked|Raiderwell it is posible to filter out some whispers. several addons are doing so
10:19.32nevcairielyeah it is
10:19.39nevcairieluse ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler
10:19.44nevcairielnot OnEvent
10:19.52sylvanaarit cant, it provides a new way to inteface with the chatframes
10:20.15sylvanaardont like it - troll like nev
10:20.42nevcairieli just dont think its good to break a existing API ;)
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10:20.58CIA-2303jayhawk * r36349 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/PetInfoFu-readme.txt:
10:20.58CIA-23FuBar_PetInfoFu:
10:20.59CIA-23- updated readme
10:21.04Borked|Raiderprat dont give error now
10:21.05Borked|RaiderInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2229: bad argument #1 to 'strsub' (string expected, got nil)
10:21.06sylvanaarit doesnt, break it
10:21.08Borked|Raider:P
10:21.15nevcairielheh
10:21.29sylvanaarthe authors just cant throw together anything and expect it to work
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10:22.03Megalonwhy must every other author pay attention to how prat handles something? o_0
10:22.15sylvanaarthey dont
10:22.31sylvanaarthey can do whatever they want
10:22.41Borked|Raidergot it working, tx
10:23.35CIA-2303nickenyfiken 07Nickenyfiken * r36350 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
10:23.35CIA-23FuBar_TrainerFu:
10:23.35CIA-23- Updated localization (drycode)
10:23.36CIA-23- Bump toc to 20100
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10:23.41sylvanaarPrat - is like fubar, it provides an orderly way to have a collection of chat mods
10:23.57sylvanaarso if you run fubar and titan....
10:24.24sylvanaarPrat is not a chat mod - its a framework for chat mods
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10:25.34Icerothi still miss the feature to click a timestamp to pop a dialog similar to hyperlinks to be able to copy that line
10:25.48sylvanaaryou show me 30+ chat mods that work together without a single conflict like prats modules do, then you can bash prat
10:26.27nevcairielnah, i dont need 30 chat mods anyway
10:26.36sylvanaarnot the point
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10:26.55sylvanaarthe point is they can
10:27.40CIA-2303mok * r36351 10xchar/ (7 files in 2 dirs): xchar: a profiler for xchar.de
10:28.51sylvanaarIceroth yeah, thats a cool feature
10:29.31Icerothi did suggest it a while ago but guess there right people weren't around ;)
10:29.42Icerothi just find the current copy box a bit clumsy
10:30.10Icerothand it's specific lines i'm interested in copying rather than blocks of text usually
10:31.00sylvanaarright
10:33.02sylvanaaras you can see - its real rewarding to add feature Iceroth
10:33.59Icerothnot following O.o (tho i didn't read the previous conversation really either..)
10:34.20sylvanaarusual bs around here
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10:35.31CIA-2303chuanhsing * r36352 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
10:35.31CIA-23Babble-2.2:
10:35.31CIA-23- add zhTW of Battle of Mount Hyjal
10:37.36sylvanaarpeople with uninformed opinions bashing prat with general statements which they cant back up...
10:37.48vhaarrwho's bashing prat?
10:37.49nymbiamake you very happy?
10:38.31sylvanaarnevcairiel is one of my usual trolls...
10:38.42CIA-2303totalpackage * r36353 10InFlight_Load/ (InFlight_Load.lua InFlight_Load.toc):
10:38.42CIA-23InFlight_Load
10:38.43CIA-23- toc 20100
10:38.43loonacyHey all, I'm an Ace newb... I've been looking around and I can't tell if AceGUI has a 2.0 equivalent... do you guys use AceGUI or just the standard WoW API?
10:38.48sylvanaarim in a bad mood already,...gonna be a great day
10:38.56vhaarrloonacy: AceGUI is not in a usable state.
10:39.06abbat_w=)
10:39.12Borked|Raiderfunction(parameter1, parameter2) ... is there a syntax for getting the first parameter without knowing the actuly parameter variable?
10:39.21KinkxI <3 Prat!
10:39.32Kinkx(I really do ;p)
10:39.34loonacyThanks Vhaarr.
10:39.44sylvanaari <3 starbucks, im going to get some
10:39.58KinkxOne of my can't-live-without addons
10:41.16CIA-2303totalpackage * r36354 10InFlight/ (InFlight.lua InFlight.toc):
10:41.16CIA-23InFlight:
10:41.16CIA-23- toc 20100
10:41.16CIA-23- added option to change font thru SharedMedia
10:41.16CIA-23- uses more locals passed by frame scripts
10:41.17CIA-23- use passValue and function sharing for options table
10:41.20loonacySo how do you delete a frame that's inside another frame?
10:43.29CIA-2303rabbit * r36355 10BuffProtectorGnome/ (BuffProtectorGnome.lua BuffProtectorGnome.toc): BuffProtectorGnome: Some cleanup and set interface to 20100.
10:43.50vhaarrloonacy: You can't delete frames.
10:45.08CIA-2303totalpackage * r36356 10ChatSounds/ (ChatSounds.lua ChatSounds.toc):
10:45.08CIA-23ChatSounds:
10:45.08CIA-23- toc 20100
10:45.08CIA-23- adding/removing custom channels made easier
10:45.08CIA-23- whispers from npcs are now handled as incoming whispers
10:45.08CIA-23- some dusting
10:46.55rronkivare there any blizzard servers online right now?
10:47.24harldephinyes
10:47.39harldephinbut i'm getting thrown out every now and then
10:47.41clad|sleepi show 0 online.
10:47.45clad|sleep=/
10:47.54nymbiaPTR should be up still
10:47.59nymbiawas half an hour ago at least
10:48.01clad|sleepoh gc
10:48.01evlwookiesome had extended maint. i would assume all would be down by now
10:48.47rronkivhow do i get onto europh servers?
10:49.07harldephini'm on right now, so they're not all down
10:49.12rronkivwhat server harldephin?
10:49.19harldephinPerenolde
10:49.23rronkivus or?
10:49.27harldephinno
10:49.32rronkivwhere isi t?
10:49.44harldephineurope
10:50.00rronkivhow can i get onto a europhen server?
10:50.02CIA-2303totalpackage * r36357 10Capping/ (Capping.toc core.lua):
10:50.02CIA-23Capping
10:50.02CIA-23- toc 20100
10:50.03CIA-23- updated for 2.1 changes in the default UI scoreboard
10:50.50harldephini dunno. install a european localised version of WoW maybe ?
10:51.10harldephinor patch the server selector somehow ?
10:51.28harldephinthose people setting up their own servers (or test servers) might know more about that
10:51.38rronkivi mean
10:51.40rronkivi bought the game in the us
10:51.41mokyou cannot play on euro servers with us account
10:51.52rronkivi know if i change us.logon to eu.logon in the realmlist file it connects me to eu
10:51.56rronkivbut do i need a EU account?
10:51.58harldephinyea, get a european account as well
10:51.59rronkivbah
10:52.02rronkivso i cant play on any servers huh?
10:52.11rronkivcelp a private one
10:52.15rronkivcep*
10:52.29nymbiaptr should still be up, like i said
10:52.44rronkivbut i dont want to make a brand new character on ptr LOL
10:53.35Icerothwell can't you wait for the patching to be done?)
10:53.40Borked|Raiderbaa my chat intercepter thing works to good, its filtering out all chats :/
10:53.44CIA-2303totalpackage * r36358 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):
10:53.44CIA-23Cellular
10:53.44CIA-23- toc 20100
10:53.44CIA-23- use more local arguments
10:53.44CIA-23- a few random bug fixes no one noticed
10:53.44CIA-23- use passValue and function sharing for options (saved color variables changed)
10:53.44rronkivwhen is the server ganna be back up?
10:53.57loonacyAbout 6 hours.
10:54.04rronkivah wel
10:54.15vhaarrBorked|Raider: Because you don't invoke the hooked handler, probably.
10:54.32vhaarrBorked|Raider: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ShutUp/ShutUp.lua
10:55.07Icerothhas someone already created a blame tool to accuse ppl/addons for tainting stuff now with the 2.1 change?
10:55.23Borked|Raiderhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21966/
10:55.56vhaarrBorked|Raider: You're missing a keyword there.
10:56.05rronkivis there a way to make a bot scripts with lua?
10:56.37Borked|Raidervhaarr, hmm, sorry not sure what you mean or where i miss it - just some code i got from someone els
10:56.54vhaarrBorked|Raider: Read the code I gave you, it shows what you're missing.
10:57.42harldephinbtw why's the interface's revision value got to be something like "20100" when the 'official' version of the game is "2.1.0". wouldn't that transmute to a revision like "21000". i mean, what's the zero between the 2 and the 1 good for. it's not like it's been used yet (at least i haven't seen it to be).
10:57.47Borked|Raiderevent, ...
10:57.55CIA-2303totalpackage * r36359 10FuBar_Usage/ (FuBar_Usage.toc Usage.lua):
10:57.55CIA-23FuBar_Usage:
10:57.55CIA-23- removed 2.1 compat check
10:59.07vhaarrBorked|Raider: No, that's not a keyword, the code should work fine without that, actually.
10:59.08Borked|Raider:(
10:59.08rronkivi guess thats a no to my question?
10:59.08nymbiaharldephin: 10900, 11000, 11100, 11200 ?
10:59.08vhaarrrronkiv: of course it can
10:59.08vhaarrbe used to make bots, whatever kind of bots you're talking about
10:59.27rronkivlike a fishing bot, something that will sit there and auto fish while u go walk your dog
10:59.29rronkivor something :P
10:59.34[Ammo]nope
10:59.35rronkivor like
10:59.47*** kick/#wowace [rronkiv!n=folk@ghybel545.krs.hia.no] by vhaarr (vhaarr)
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11:00.12nymbiaknocking it up a notch!
11:00.13rronkivok #1, i was just asking, #2 i'd never be able to figure it out. so...
11:00.13CIA-2303daviesh * r36360 10AtlasLoot/ (104 files in 15 dirs):
11:00.14CIA-23AtlasLoot: initial commit
11:00.14CIA-23- Instance loot browser
11:00.14vhaarrI figured he was talking about IRC bots :P
11:00.22nymbia(this better exist before i try it:)
11:00.26harldephinnymbia: so 21400 would transmute as 2.14.0 ?
11:00.27nymbia~emulate elzar
11:00.40vhaarr104 files in 15 dirs, rofl
11:00.42nymbiaharldephin: yeah
11:00.50harldephinok
11:01.05Borked|Raidervhaarr, function is a key word but it should work without it also?
11:01.11nymbiapurl, emulate elzar is <reply> BAM!
11:01.14purlokay, nymbia
11:01.18vhaarrBorked|Raider: the missing keyword is |return|
11:01.21nymbia~emulate elzar
11:01.23purlBAM!
11:01.25nymbiabetter.
11:01.29Borked|Raidervhaarr thx
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11:01.41Borked|Raiderand the function, jsut forget i said that :PPP
11:02.30vhaarrhttp://wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.lua?rev=36360#L69
11:02.43nymbiavhaarr: do i even want to look?
11:02.46rronkivi just downloaded the patch
11:02.55vhaarrnymbia: it's just funny :P
11:03.52nymbiaoh my.. that could use a little self:RegisterDefaults action
11:04.05vhaarrbasically the addon isn't "Aced" at all
11:04.15nymbiayeah
11:04.17vhaarrhe doesn't use AceConsole, AceEvent, AceAddon or anything
11:04.20vhaarrhe just uses dewdrop
11:04.21CIA-2303daviesh * r36361 10AtlasLoot/:
11:04.21CIA-23AtlasLoot:
11:04.22CIA-23- Test initial external
11:04.29vhaarrfubarplugin and tablet
11:04.38nymbiaah
11:04.54nymbiaglobals all kinds
11:05.04vhaarrindeed
11:05.05CIA-2303jayhawk * r36362 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt/ (3 files):
11:05.05CIA-23FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt:
11:05.05CIA-23- updated TOC to 20100
11:06.17sylvanaarlooks like the patch downloader is now fully in the launcher
11:06.31Icerothwha, do you mean that if i commit an addon to the ace repository, it doesn't become ace'd? O.o
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11:06.42CIA-2303jayhawk * r36363 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (3 files):
11:06.42CIA-23FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
11:06.42CIA-23- updated TOC to 20100
11:07.00Icerothi've been cheated, i want my money back!
11:07.02nymbiaIceroth: that's what i've been depending on
11:11.21CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36364 10ACP/ACP.toc: ACP: TOC 20100
11:11.38CIA-2303daviesh * r36365 10AtlasLoot/:
11:11.38CIA-23AtlasLoot:
11:11.38CIA-23- Final externals, set commit template
11:11.51CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36366 10CopyThat/CopyThat.toc: CopyThat: TOC 20100
11:12.10CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36367 10DreamChat/DreamChat.toc: DreamChat: TOC 20100
11:12.37CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36368 10Prat/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Prat: TOC 20100
11:12.50Healthwtf is a commit template?
11:13.30CIA-2303daviesh * r36369 10AtlasLoot/:
11:13.30CIA-23AtlasLoot:
11:13.30CIA-23- Fixed bad external
11:13.34vhaarrtsvn-logtemplate
11:13.42CIA-2303pb_ee1 * r36370 10ChatLog/ChatLog.toc: ChatLog: Updating TOC to 20100.
11:15.08TheKarnargh damn Antiarc
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11:15.28nymbia~framexml
11:15.42purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p
11:15.42HjalteIf I'm in europe, still using 2.0, I guess i shouldnt download anything from files.wowace.com or?
11:16.06nymbiaHjalte: i'd suggest against it, but it shouldnt explode too badly if you do.
11:16.13KinkxHjalte, it doesn't matter, unless an addon is using some new 2.1 api I guess
11:16.13Borked|Raiderwhen making a scring with [[ ]] do i need to use escape signs for " ? [[ local string = "a string in a string" ]] or [[ local string = \"a string in a string\" ]]
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11:16.31nymbiaBorked|Raider: no need to escape 'em
11:16.35Borked|Raiderhmm
11:16.36Borked|Raiderok
11:16.49CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36371 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Filtering.lua: Prat: Some comments not checked in
11:17.06CIA-2303totalpackage * r36372 10StellarUF/ (7 files):
11:17.06CIA-23StellarUF:
11:17.06CIA-23- toc 20100
11:17.06CIA-23- use more local arguments and random tweaks/fixes
11:17.06CIA-23- use passValue and function sharing for the options menu
11:17.07CIA-23- added CandyBar to make use of the 2.1 buff/debuff time data (on target and focus only)
11:17.23harldephinwhere does Quartz_Flight get its flight times from ? - does it auto-import them from InFlight or something ?
11:17.38Borked|Raider[[ SendChatMessage("BIDDING ON "..x1.." Whisper me !bid|!down|!remove" , "RAID"); ]] Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua:2585: SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message
11:18.21CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36373 10Prat/PratPlugin-1.0/: Prat: Removed PratPlugin, it exists separately
11:18.26nymbiaharldephin: it doesnt actually track the flights itself, it just watches for when InFlight or FlightMap say they're on a flight
11:19.12harldephinok
11:19.23KinkxSniff-1.0\Sniff.lua:58: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink") :(
11:19.57Kinkxprevious is nil it seems, if you type in a itemid that you have in your cache
11:20.15nymbiaKinkx: my bad, one sec
11:20.30TheKarnare there any methods in Ace to copy the contents of a table?
11:21.18CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36374 10RightWing/RightWing.toc: RightWing: TOC 20100
11:21.57CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36375 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_RegenFu.toc: FuBar_RegenFu: TOC 20100
11:22.17CIA-2303nymbia * r36376 10Sniff/Sniff.lua:
11:22.17CIA-23Sniff:
11:22.17CIA-23- copy-paste > me
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11:24.36Punkie`nymbia: are you excited?
11:24.55nymbiaPunkie`: O.o
11:25.14Punkie`for when Quartz explodes into post-patch awesomeness?
11:25.40nymbialol ;)
11:25.44omega_whats changed?
11:26.03AM|AnkkaSo is there an addon like the glancingmeter that would track spell resists and spell dmg/haste procs and such and that would then calculate the effect on overall dmg?
11:26.07Punkie`the patch is coming tomorrow
11:26.49Kinkxnymbia: Works now :)
11:26.54KinkxIt pastes the item twice tho
11:27.04Kinkx13:26:23 Sniff: 24544: [Gladiator's Plate Chestpiece] 13:26:23 Sniff: 24544: [Gladiator's Plate Chestpiece]
11:27.16nymbiathat's annoying
11:28.31CIA-2303nymbia * r36377 10Sniff/Sniff.lua:
11:28.31CIA-23Sniff:
11:28.31CIA-23- Don't double print.
11:28.41Punkie`Would it be more efficient of my addon if it unregistered events if I wasn't targetting something (as the events are only needed when I am targetting someone)
11:28.46Kinkx;D
11:28.53KinkxNice nymbia :)
11:28.59nymbiaPunkie`: depends which events
11:29.08Punkie`UNIT_AURA
11:29.19Megalonah, sniff is the ace version of good ol' itemmagic :x
11:29.22Punkie`bucketevent
11:30.33nymbiahrm.. yeah i guess you could ditch it, but you're probably targeting something most of the time that you've got lots of UNIT_AURA events firing, so it may not be worth the register/unregister overhead, especially with a bucket event
11:30.46Punkie`oki doke
11:31.14Punkie`Will UNIT_AURA also fire if the player's aura changes?
11:31.20nymbiayup
11:31.27Punkie`sweet as a nut
11:31.51Punkie`nymbia what class are you?
11:32.07nymbiamage
11:32.26Punkie`need resto drood
11:32.42Megalononly have a BOOMKIN!
11:32.49Punkie`get away from me you
11:32.56nymbiahaha
11:33.08Megalonzomg cyclone
11:33.12Megalonzomg 6k starfire
11:33.13Megalon:<
11:33.14Punkie`zomg /no
11:33.32Megalonzomg focus, zomg dead
11:33.35Kinkxnymbia - Works perfect now, thanks <3
11:33.38xlvii2.1 tonight?
11:33.49nymbiaKinkx: :)
11:33.56Punkie`zomg unwanted /shoo
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11:34.52Punkie`Megalon: btw i heard that wrath is more efficient for dps than starfire :o
11:35.01Megalonyes it is
11:35.11Punkie`looks crappy though
11:35.12Megalonbut it's also the mana eating whore
11:35.18Megalonin your spellbook
11:35.55Megalonwrath is the highest dps spell
11:36.22Megalonbut it sucks that you get not profit from crits
11:36.27KinkxOh, hmm.. I just did /item 30240-30241, and it didn't stop, just kept going up to 30249 until I got disconnected
11:36.39Megalon-0.5 casttime => 1.0s cast, but 1.5s gcd >:<
11:37.02Kinkx30240-30241 I didn't have in my cache
11:37.23xlviiwhat's sniff?
11:37.24xlvii;p
11:37.25sylvanaarwow - boom
11:37.42nymbiaKinkx: odd.
11:37.51Kinkx24544-24547 worked np, those I have in my cache
11:37.58Icerothwhat if you'd cast SF after wrath crits?
11:38.08Megalonthat's the common cycle
11:38.13Megalonif you have the mana
11:38.23Megalonwrath till it crits => sf
11:38.33Megalonwith a shadowpriest
11:38.44Megalonwithout, don't know if you can handle your mana
11:39.01Iceroththe innervate is there for a reason ;)
11:39.05Megalon;D
11:39.10Megalonyea, for priests to cry
11:39.11Megalon:>
11:39.14Icerothindd
11:39.18nymbiawho broke wowace already
11:39.22Megalonninervate
11:39.32Megalonmoonkin is for moonstuff!
11:39.33Kinkxnymbia - maybe I misstyped, it shouldn't happend I think.. don't see how ;p
11:40.32nymbiaKinkx: well, the tricky thing is that if it had been circling off into infinity somehow, it would have hard-locked you the instant the slash command executed
11:41.09Kinkxthey kept coming slowly
11:41.44Kinkx/item 30240-30241, alt-up with Prat, so didn't misstype either :o
11:42.14nymbiahrm
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11:42.49nymbiai'll have to look into that
11:42.54nymbiabut for now, i'm off ;)
11:43.07nymbia~flee
11:43.20purlACTION runs away screaming
11:43.21KinkxTake care ^^
11:43.45abbat_wpurl
11:44.06CIA-2303sylvanaar * r36378 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat.toc): Prat: Removed RC1 label. Version 2.0 now
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11:44.55evlOMG
11:44.57evlPrat not beta?
11:45.03evlI need that in blue
11:45.07sylvanaarlol
11:45.12evl12Prat: Removed RC1 label. Version 2.0 now
11:45.28Gngskouch
11:46.17sylvanaarlong beta
11:46.57HealthThanks for coloring it
11:47.58sylvanaar^.^ thats funny
11:48.19abbat_wOh, JoshBorke ;) I should told him something about sexy bar fader ;)
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11:48.56evlwookieyay prat
11:51.10JoshBorkewho'sa what'sa?
11:52.56abbat_wJoshBorke, i mean barfader for PitBull. ckknight told what you and nymbia make it
11:53.16HealthNo! It's not cool until the highlight is back! is it?
11:53.36rronkivAnyone play on eitrigg?
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11:54.04JoshBorkenymbia did all the work, i just made it sexy
11:54.19abbat_w;)
11:54.29Healthsexy back?
11:54.34abbat_wI think nymbia like to code something visual
11:54.41abbat_wStatStain, sexy fader... ;)
11:55.34Icerothnever got used to statstain
11:55.44Icerothmade the tooltips harder to read for me
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11:56.04abbat_wIceroth, RatingBuster + StatStain
11:56.15abbat_wThis 2 mods looks nice
11:56.27Icerothi'm using ratingbuster only
11:56.51CartasI agree, Iceroth. I used StatStain for a week, and I was so glad when I removed it :p
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11:57.00CartasNice to be able to read the stats again without eye strain.
11:57.20Icerothi mean, the idea is great, just didn't work out for me
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11:58.52TheKarnis there a mirror of the WoWAce wiki?
11:59.41CartasHm, I don't think I would really benefit too much from multicoloured stats due to me being able to discern between stats quite easily. However, I feel a better idea would be an addon which simply makes each alternating line of stats switch between two easy-to-see colours!
11:59.55phyberso, when you :SetOrientation on a statusbar, the statusbar texture doesn't rotate with it.  is there a function which fixes that or do I have to provide horizontal versions of the statusbar textures?
12:00.34[Ammo]the server is currently under strain due to patch TheKarn
12:00.37[Ammo]methinks
12:00.47Cartas[Ammo] my man!
12:00.50CartasHi old chap! :)
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12:02.42TheKarn[Ammo], i know why it is i was wondering if there was a mirror? i'm interested in info on AceComm
12:03.33[Ammo]hey cartas
12:03.40CartasHi old chap! <3
12:03.46CartasStill raiding strong on Kazzak?
12:06.38[Ammo]pretty strong
12:06.44[Ammo]did our first venture into SSC last night
12:06.51[Ammo]practiced a bit on lurker
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12:07.58sylvanaarfiles is already unresponsive
12:08.04Hjalte[Ammo], are you on Kazzak eu?
12:09.01[Ammo]yeah
12:10.01sbumorning
12:10.15Chompersyou skipped the first guy then?
12:10.20Chompershydross
12:10.24Hjalte[Ammo], if you dont mind me asking, what would the chances be of recruiting new people on Kazzak? My guild and I are looking at possible servers to migrate to.
12:10.25[Ammo]yup
12:10.49sbui'd skip hydross too :o go lurker
12:10.57[Ammo]we're working on gearing our tanks atm
12:11.17[Ammo]until they are geared we'll steer clear of hydross
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12:12.11Stylpeckknight: there?
12:12.16[Ammo]Hjalte: there are plenty of options on kazzak I think, but not sure, we have quite a good raiding community
12:13.00CartasA mass amount of people migrated to our server to be turned down by the good guilds! :)
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12:13.11[Ammo]Cartas: haha
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12:13.19[Ammo]yeah that happens
12:13.26CartasIt's true. Remember the huge queues when they put paid migration in?
12:13.32Jagobahnooooo
12:13.38Jagobahgetting 500 server errors with WUU
12:13.48[Ammo]Cartas: you migrated to kazzak too!
12:13.51[Ammo]you're filth!
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12:14.00Cartas...!
12:14.03CartasBut, I didn't get turned down.
12:14.05CartasI had a reason1
12:14.06[Ammo]haha
12:14.28[Ammo]our guild was the first to decide to move to kazzak from daggerspine
12:14.32CartasI wanted to visit you, creator of a damned good addon!
12:14.35[Ammo]and announce it :)
12:14.40Cartas(Witchhunt!)
12:14.43[Ammo]then soon all good guilds followed
12:14.47CartasHm
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12:15.01CartasI came from Grim Batol! Last Resort came from... hmm...
12:15.06CartasBoulderfist, was it?
12:15.19[Ammo]well Kazzak was a new server available to daggerspine only
12:15.58[Ammo]best patch change ever: Active corpses or objects (ones with loot on them) now can be selected and looted, even if they are underneath another corpse that does not have loot on it.
12:16.46CartasEh?
12:18.08CartasI never understand a lot of people with retarded problems like that :P
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12:18.25CartasLike, if a mounted Tauren is at the mailbox, rather than TURNING THEIR DAMNED CAMERA, they whine at him to move.
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12:18.54trhtry interact with a human npc when 10 taurens stand on him
12:18.57TheKarn[Ammo] were you on EU-Daggerspine?
12:19.08CartasThe only real problem I've seen caused by Tauren is the BWL orb.
12:19.15CartasMe and another Tauren stood back-to-back on it.
12:19.31CartasThe amount of drama caused on the forums by that...!
12:19.49Jagobahugggh wowace is down :(
12:19.51Megaloni blocked the main mailbox in orgrimmar with a friend, both taurens mounted
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12:19.56Megalonwe even got a flamethread in the realmforum
12:19.58Megalon:C
12:20.09[Ammo]TheKarn: yeah
12:20.17TheKarnlol thats where i am now
12:20.22TheKarnwhat guild were you in?
12:20.26[Ammo]TheKarn: and the server sucked
12:20.48[Ammo]played from release, first in a small guild called LORD, then Pest Control, then we merged with Fellowship of the BOON into BOON Control
12:21.04[Ammo]which migrated to kazzak when the server went to shit and everyone was offered free migration
12:21.05TheKarnthe server itself is the most stable realm i've been on
12:21.10[Ammo]maybe now
12:21.15[Ammo]but it was a pos
12:21.18TheKarnbut we are lacking in decent players/guilds
12:21.21[Ammo]yup
12:21.24[Ammo]they all moved to kazzak
12:21.25[Ammo]_all_
12:21.30TheKarnlol yup
12:21.42TheKarnneed a shadow priest? :P
12:21.44[Ammo]daggerspine had a crappy server and queues
12:21.45Borked|Raiderworking on a raidtracker tool, and looking over the api's i find that there are a few functions to return some kind of string telling where we are. like GetZoneText(), anyone got some comment on which api is best to use to define the location of where i am?
12:22.54[Ammo]kazzak has been our happy home every since :)
12:23.23Healthcute!
12:23.41CartasMe and Ammo are a happy family.
12:23.59[Ammo]not exactly
12:24.03Cartas:O
12:24.04[Ammo]you're a fat cow, I'm a pro gnome
12:24.09CartasTwo best races.
12:24.12CartasLet's have a child!
12:24.16kenlyricwe had our top alliance guild move off our server supposedly because it suck (it did) but we all suspected they tired of being second fiddle to the top horde guild. then about two weeks after they moved  a couple really awesome alliance guilds moved to their server. teehee.
12:24.17CartasA gnome with udders...
12:24.18CartasYUM YUM!
12:24.38kenlyrica cow with pink hair.
12:24.48CartasSEXY!
12:25.01CartasPink Haired Gnome ladies are by far one of the best choices you can make in the game! :P
12:25.12kenlyricI had a warrior just like that.
12:25.57CartasI have one too!
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12:29.48CIA-2303totalpackage * r36381 10InFlight/InFlight.lua:
12:29.48CIA-23InFlight:
12:29.48CIA-23- apparently, there's no need for auto-dismount option since it's now in the default UI
12:29.48CIA-2303ammo * r36380 10SRA/ (SRA.lua locales/enUS.lua): SRA: Slow Roaming Ants
12:30.04Icerothwhat do these ants actually do?
12:30.21[Ammo]they dynamically modify your code
12:30.22Chompersroam
12:30.29CartasSlowly.
12:30.36[Ammo]I adjusted something for something I saw in the patch notes
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12:32.14Iceroth"Sexually offensive addon that eats coconuts for breakfast."
12:32.29[Ammo]it's true
12:32.31kenlyricso, random changes made very slowly with no discernible pattern?
12:32.35kenlyricThey work for blizzard?
12:33.15[Ammo]ha
12:33.25kenlyricso I never found out when I was on the test realm... where is the ethereum prison?
12:33.36kebinusananyone have problems with high cpu load when viewing ajax crap in firefox like the wowhead talent page?
12:33.37wobin=(
12:33.40[Ammo]rule 1 of the ethereum prison
12:33.40wobinwowace wru?
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12:33.53wobin[Ammo]: We don't speak of etherieum prison?
12:33.57[Ammo]correct
12:34.08[Ammo]it's location is a well kept secret
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12:34.20CartasNo problem for me, kenlyric.
12:34.24Icerothkebinusan, blizz ajax implementation kinda sucks balls it seems, i have the same problem there, other ajax sites work much better
12:34.25kebinusanBring Soap on a Rope you get a nice: "Welcome to Etherieum Prison, Bitch!"
12:34.25Cartas~10% CPU usage.
12:34.41wobinfeh
12:34.54wobinAjax is the problem in the first place =P
12:35.04kebinusanIf I load the same page in firefox I get like 95% cpu load, if I load it in opera I get 2.3%
12:35.07SunTigeryou cant make sites based on gimmicks
12:35.14SunTigeryou can use them to help with some cool stuff
12:35.21SunTigerbut you can't base site designs on it.
12:35.22wobinIt's nifty and all, but it's extending a technology way beyond it's capabilities
12:35.42SunTigerWoWhead is a good example of using ajax like it should be
12:35.56SunTigerblizz site is a good example of how not to use it.
12:35.57CartasTried reinstalling Firefox, kebinusan?
12:36.02wobinEven then, I get slowdowns in fps when looking at Wow on one monitor, and wowhead on another
12:36.11kebinusanCartas, thats probably next on my list yeah
12:36.23SunTigerwell, wowhead has a lot of information to work though
12:36.24Icerothwowhead talent calc used to eat 20% of my cpu by just being visible
12:36.26SunTigerso that is an issue
12:36.27Cartasand then if it doesn't work, reformat your HDD!
12:36.38wobinSunTiger: Well, not really, when I just looking at a screenshot =P
12:36.42kebinusanCartas: Eww, sorry run linux not windows
12:36.47CartasHm?
12:36.56CartasI didn't say reinstall Windows :o
12:37.04SunTigernever noticed that, but if thats true they need to go and fix up their damn code.
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12:37.17wobinThat's true of a majority of Ajax sites =)
12:37.25SunTigerhehe
12:37.51Icerothi had pageflakes open on my office laptop over the weekend, ff was eating 750mb memory :p
12:37.54CartasD.nl!
12:38.10josh|mawhat's up with the wowace site? it's down or what?
12:38.17wobinlooks that way =\
12:38.19Jagobahlooks like it
12:38.26Cartashelp!
12:38.28Jagobahhowever SVN updates continue to post
12:38.39wobinwell they're separate, aren't they?
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12:39.07wobinwoo
12:39.13wobinthank god I got the partial download patch
12:39.24Cartaskeyboard
12:39.27CartasEambcy!
12:39.29wobinonly 30M to go instead
12:40.04CartasIppvvv
12:40.06CartasS(
12:40.25josh|maI need the site because I want to know how I can add a text under the Title of my FuBar-Plugin-Icon-Tooltip?
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12:42.11CartasHow peculiar that was!
12:42.17SeykenHello all
12:42.28CartasMy keyboard just completely changed layout in IRC only... :(
12:42.30Seykenpatch 2.1 for hunters, any comments?
12:43.02josh|mayes, peculiar lol
12:43.12CartasIndeed, old chap!
12:44.10SunTigercartas, grats.
12:44.20CartasHmmmmm?
12:44.24SunTiger<Cartas> My keyboard just completely changed layout in IRC only... :(
12:44.38CartasThanks old chap!
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12:44.51Cartas'Twas a well formed sentence indeed, you have a sharp eye!
12:45.34Dranor<Seyken> patch 2.1 for hunters, any comments? < reroll something better or cancel your acc
12:46.33SeykenDranor: what happened to hunters? :/
12:46.55SunTigernothing much
12:46.57vodrinpets given avoidance abilitiy
12:47.00SunTigerthey got buffed mostly
12:47.06SunTigerminor things though
12:47.08vodrinnot enough though
12:47.09Stephmwvodrin: wooo!
12:47.21Stephmwvodrin: even less interaction needed from the hunter
12:47.46Seykendid they up the survival tree as announced?
12:50.56Dranori'm too sceptic
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12:51.49Dranori don't think that an improved mark and a pair of cosmetic fixes is going to return us to something... useful in raid
12:51.51Icerothdoes someone have a link to the 2.1 live patch notes?
12:52.09abbat_wufff...
12:52.22abbat_wso, i found how PitBull works with aura timers
12:52.35abbat_wand tonight i finally turn it off!
12:52.41abbat_w(and remove buffalo)
12:53.13harldephinwhat's the function being executed to show/hide nQuestLog's tracker when i click the FuBar icon ?
12:54.16kebinusanIceroth: I can put them up on pastebin, one sec
12:55.01CIA-2303lordrhys * r36382 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (FactionItemsFu.lua FuBar_FactionItemsFu.toc): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: 2.2.1 toc -> 20100
12:55.31kebinusanhttp://www.shutupandpull.com/kebinusan/Patch.html should be it
12:55.41Iceroththanks
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12:56.12Seykenoh, 2.1 patch hasn't been released yet in US?
12:58.28Prophhhas patch been release to the MIRROR sites yet?
13:00.15Seykenon fileshack it isn't
13:01.08Seykenwhen is this patch going to be released?
13:01.11kebinusanpatch was released in the US yah
13:01.12kebinusantoday
13:01.43kebinusanIt seems that http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ has a mirror
13:01.54Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors
13:02.03FtH|Daemonai bet its only hosted background loader files
13:02.03Kirkburn|afkFor once WW is holding up during a patch day :D
13:02.09StephmwUndead in the US Senate? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2297471.stm
13:02.13kebinusanFtH|Daemona: no its 276 mb
13:02.22Jagobahmy mirror
13:02.58Jagobahftp://67.19.139.94/WoW-2.0.12-to-2.1.0-enUS-Win-patch/
13:02.58Kirkburn|afkWW has got a fair few full patches :P
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13:08.43Silviu-kebinusan i have 376 o.O
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13:10.57kebinusanSilviu-:  are you eu?
13:11.06*** join/#wowace restored (i=restored@sherman.campus.luth.se)
13:11.19kebinusanThe EU patch includes extra text and sound files for languages other than english, thats why its bigger
13:12.21Silviu-Yes
13:12.24CartasShame they never actually put English in...
13:12.28CartasIt's American! :(
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13:12.55phyberyou know you love* being Honored with your factions instead of Honoured.
13:13.11kenlyricnot our fault the English can't spell their own language.
13:13.11XuerianSilly Europeans. Tricks are for kids!
13:13.26CartasSorry for choosing to be born here, old chap! :(
13:13.37_NiCis there any wowace-updater that works for linux?
13:13.37XuerianDamn straight you are.
13:14.20Xuerian_NiC: The Java one that is in development
13:14.42renchap_NiC: http://code.google.com/p/wowacepy/
13:14.55phyberouch, Java.  best buy more RAM.
13:15.03_NiC:)
13:15.21XuerianI didn't say I liked java >_>
13:15.23CartasOuch Java indeed! :P
13:15.41phyberXuerian: I wouldn't dream of accusing a person of such a thing :)
13:15.42XuerianI think it should've been done in lua with a ui toolkit, for the coolness factor :p
13:15.56Xuerianphyber: Thanks for the courtesy :p
13:16.36rronkivservers up yet?
13:17.09rronkiv:\
13:17.11TheKarnhmm damn
13:17.15Xuerianrronkiv: uh
13:17.20XuerianThey aren't normally up for another four hours
13:17.23TheKarnAceComm is only useful for inter-addon communication
13:17.26XuerianAnd there's extended maintenance
13:18.02loonacy11:00 AM PDT at the earliest... 2:00 PM PDT for those servers on the list.
13:19.06loonacyAnd I believe it is currently 6:15 PDT, so that's a little less than 5 hours away.
13:19.17rronkivyup
13:19.24rronkivim bored..
13:19.37rronkivand
13:19.37TheKarnIs there an Ace library that handles processing whispers?
13:19.47rronkivwhen i get on i get to spend a couple hours redoing my addons lol
13:20.38Josh_BorkeTheKarn: no, isn't that just CHAT_MSG_WHISPER?
13:20.48loonacyTheKarn:  I don't know if there is, but you could look through the code for Cellular?
13:20.56rronkivisnt Atlasloot Enhanced Ace?
13:22.58TheKarnbasically i'm wondering if theres an easy way to implement an addon that process whispers based on if they are friends/guilds and hide the message if it does process it
13:23.18Xuerianrronkiv: No
13:23.21loonacyTheKarn:  Add a filter for if they're level 1 or not, and I'd buy it.
13:23.24Xuerianrronkiv: Cartographer has a instance loot module
13:23.31rronkivahh good :P
13:23.46winkillerwhen exactly savedvariables are written? on logout?
13:24.24Stephmwtalking of cartographer... the option 'go to XXX' for instances doesn't seem to function in some instances (old hillsbrad for one), known issue?
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13:24.32kebinusanwinkiller: logout and reloadui
13:24.41winkillerah ty
13:24.53TheKarnloonacy, you want to ignore all lvl 1s?
13:25.20rronkivwhat is the best addon to handle buttons?
13:25.48loonacyTheKarn:  Yeah, most gold spam comes from level 1 trial account characters.
13:26.20TheKarnthats kinda a different addon to what i want
13:26.34TheKarnbasically i'm writing an addon that scans your inventory and responds with matching items
13:26.48TheKarnbut i dont want my whisper chat window being spammed with the messages
13:27.27Josh_BorkeTheKarn: you can now send 'whispers' through the SendAddonMessage channel
13:28.01loonacyYeah... use the AceComm library for that, maybe?
13:28.10TheKarnwont work
13:28.21TheKarni dont want the other user to need to use an AceComm addon
13:28.43TheKarnand AceComm only processes messages that are prefixed with "/" + self.commPrefix
13:28.53trhthe heroes season finale was great :)
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13:28.58TheKarnshh trh
13:29.02TheKarni havent extracted it yet
13:29.36rronkivok
13:29.45rronkivcan i have addons, inside subdirectorys for wow?
13:29.56trhTheKarn: you will laugh your ass off at 43:00 =)
13:30.01TheKarnhmpf
13:30.07rronkivfor example, wow/interface/addons/blah/ with addons there, and addons/blah1/ with addons there,
13:30.16TheKarnrronkiv, no
13:30.19rronkivDamn it
13:30.35TheKarnfed up with 100's of folders?
13:30.45rronkivya
13:30.51trhrronkiv: only if you create a toc that loads the luas inside the subfolders
13:31.07rronkivexplain a little bit?
13:31.10TheKarn251 addons in my /interface/addons
13:31.10rronkivsomething easy to do?
13:31.11trhrronkiv: but it might still get problems due to addons needing addons/<addondir>
13:31.16kenlyricwhy would you care about the folders?
13:31.20TheKarnrronkiv, you could write a script to do it
13:31.21harldephina toc-loading toc would come in handy
13:31.27kenlyricyou running unix from 1976?
13:31.50TheKarnyou running on  ext1 fs?
13:31.52KinkxIs there any site which world wide arena rating listings?
13:31.57rronkivthe reason i ask is this
13:32.12rronkivmy friend has his acct and i have my acct, he perfers diffrent addons then me, i like to constantly update..
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13:32.26rronkivso i wanna be able to do it easily with out renaming interfaces_
13:32.28deltronhowdy
13:33.07Xuerian* Proper recognition of SSE support for Pentium III has been implimented resulting in improved performance on this platform. -- I must be the only one rejoicing for this XD
13:33.08trhrronkiv: create a script moving interface to interfaceYourName/FriendsName and vice versa
13:33.41trhXuerian: depends if they use sse2 ;)
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13:34.00XuerianImproved performance is improved performance :p
13:34.02trhXuerian: and/or detect it correctly on other cpus
13:34.19trhXuerian: it sounds more like they only fixed the detection
13:34.22XuerianYes
13:34.25trhXuerian: for sse on pentium
13:34.26trh3
13:34.29XuerianBut I have a P3 so :p
13:34.34trhlol
13:34.46XuerianAlsowtf, why does mac get a background fps limiter?
13:34.48trhgot a car with holes for the feet too? :)
13:34.55Xueriantrh: Don't got a car :D
13:35.00Xuerian(Yes. Don't got.)
13:35.25trhaww.. just imagining screaming yabbadabbadoo and moving forward is awesome ;)
13:35.38XuerianXD
13:36.05loonacyrronkiv:  Use a batch file, ren Interfacerronkiv Interface ; WoW.exe ; ren Interface Interfacerronkiv
13:36.33trhthat won't work because interface will be existent
13:37.12trhhe needs to to move Interface TempInterface; move InterfaceRonkiv Interface; WoW.exe and so on
13:37.17loonacyNo it won't... just have two batch files, each one moves interfaceNAME to interface, then after wow exits, moves interface to interfaceNAME
13:37.35loonacyAfter WoW is done running, he won't have an Interface anymore.
13:37.51trhya.. that'd work
13:37.52loonacyAlthough I guess that would interfere with wowaceupdater.
13:38.10rronkivno
13:38.14trhnot if you run wau while wow is running
13:38.23rronkivLOL
13:38.33loonacyGood point.
13:38.44loonacyOr set up a batch script for wau.
13:38.54rronkivomfg
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13:39.04rronkivtaking it a lil far are we?
13:39.23loonacyWhat, 4 batch scripts, 3 lines each?
13:39.33loonacyThat's 12 lines.  I guess that is taking it a lil far.
13:39.55trhif we'd taking it to far, we'd talk about setting up a svn server with 2 branches for you + friend and using a script to checkout the correct branch before starting wow and commiting new stuff to it after wow ran
13:40.36loonacyHmmm... we could have an svn branch for you, and a cvs branch for your friend.  That'd really get complicated.
13:40.41sbumeh i want to update but i think it would not be that smart because of raid 2.0x raid starting in 3h (and already 2.1 patched addons)
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13:41.12trhsbu: chicken :P
13:41.14Silviu-sbu don`t update :)
13:41.27Silviu-At least Bt3 won`t work as "intended"
13:41.31loonacyIs the patch breaking anything?
13:41.34Silviu-Rest i only saw toc changes
13:41.37rronkivis ptr still up?
13:41.43trhloonacy: highly likely ;)
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13:45.00rronkivwhats this directory customtextures?
13:48.03sbuSilviu-: but... must... update... can't resist... you know :o
13:48.12_NiCthe python-updater was great. :)
13:48.15sbuneed 5 updates / day :p
13:49.21Silviu-Anyone know the questline ( atunnement ) for Black temple ? ;)
13:53.24kenlyrical'ar? the phoenix thing in TK and vashj in SSC
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13:53.40kenlyricand I'm sure a bunch of crap before that :)
13:55.01Silviu-Vashj :(
13:55.16Silviu-We olnly own 2 bosses in SSC
13:55.20Silviu-only*
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14:08.57harldephindamn. i'm too stupid to create a simple key binding
14:09.10CIA-2303roartindon * r36383 10Aloft/Aloft.toc: Aloft: .toc now up to 2.1
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14:12.35krkaperhaps you are too simple to create a stupid key binding
14:14.05TheKarnhow chiasmatic
14:16.22TheKarnhmm ... interesting end to heroes
14:16.59kenlyricstab.
14:17.10TheKarn/giggle.
14:17.23TheKarndamnit americans are so lazy
14:17.32TheKarnantiarc isnt up yet
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14:21.30kenlyrici have a friend who thinks the change to disabling/enabling buttons is going to hork grid. but I can't figure out even what the change means.
14:21.51kenlyricEnabling and disabling buttons is now protected functionality and may not be called on secure frames while in combat, as of 2.1.2.
14:22.29krkano spoilers! i am not watching it until thursday
14:23.17kenlyric<PROTECTED>
14:24.01harldephinoO
14:24.30kenlyricthe only thing I will say about heroes is that the writers of the show have lied like dogs in regards to the structure and design of their show, and should be beaten mercilessly.
14:24.47TheKarnkenlyric, what do you mean?
14:24.48harldephindogs don't lie, so what.
14:25.59kenlyricTheKarn: I can't really say any more without spoiling anything. Let's just say I was promised this wouldn't be like Lost, and I was lied to.
14:26.11TheKarnits not
14:26.16kenlyricBAH!
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14:26.38TheKarnlost adds more and more subplots and mysteries without properly answering any previous plotlines and questions
14:29.22kenlyricexactly :)
14:29.48TheKarnheroes doesnt do that
14:29.55TheKarnthe main plots throughout have come to an end
14:29.55kenlyricyou must have watched a different episode than I did.
14:30.06TheKarnwanna move to a query?
14:30.09TheKarnsave from annoying people?
14:32.12harldephinyes please :p
14:34.15krkayes please indeed
14:34.54CIA-2303jerry * r36384 10GridAlert/ (7 files in 3 dirs): GridAlert: split locale in different files. change how alert modules register themselves. toc -> 20100
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14:37.38knarf-Whats gridalert?
14:40.44Matrix110You get a Sound if a Event support by Grid happens
14:40.50Matrix110e.G. someone ise Cursed
14:40.57Matrix110you get a sound you define
14:41.12Stephmwthat could be interesting
14:41.19Stephmw(in addition to VitalWatch)
14:41.33deltroni use sound alerts for chats
14:41.39Matrix110its VERY nice if you are a Mage for decursing
14:41.44kenlyricAGro
14:42.05kenlyricplease add a filter to where Agro won't sound when I'm alone :)
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14:44.24knarf-sounds sweet
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14:46.22Kaeltenhttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=178751&package_id=206265&release_id=509780
14:46.27KaeltenPlease update to 1.8
14:46.41Kaeltenit'll help the servers handle today better
14:47.26abbat_wOh
14:47.33abbat_wsounds alerts for grid?
14:47.37abbat_wlike decursive do?
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14:48.29Matrix110dunno
14:48.44Matrix110but yes sound alerts:P
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14:48.56kenlyricI updated, yay!
14:49.00deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&postId=959020075&sid=1#327
14:49.14kenlyricso, anyone have any further ideas about that 2.1.2 change to buttons... what it means at least.
14:49.34kenlyricbecuase I wasn't aware things could dynamically pdate in combat and be clicked on, anyway.
14:49.43Prophis bartender3 fixed for 2.1?
14:51.48sbubutton assignment is broken isnt it?
14:52.15Tornhoofkaelten, why not updating wau through wau itself?
14:52.30Kaeltennext version will have an auto updater
14:52.34Tornhoofnice
14:52.37Larichave people already removed the 2.1 checks in their addons? I guess that means none of us euro ppl can upgrade any addons today
14:52.50kenlyricsure you can.
14:52.57kenlyricjust check "enable out of date addons"
14:53.30kenlyricguess that might break a few of them... untiframes maybe :)
14:53.32StephmwLaric: it's not that long a wait for you to upgrade tomorrow :)
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14:53.44kenlyricmust upgrade every hour!
14:53.57Laricwell it would have been nice if ppl saved the checks in their addons until tomorrow
14:54.16Matrix110QQ
14:54.18Laricthe toc isnt the problem
14:54.34sedatedChipmunkl2be american
14:55.20rronkivhow do i get the "addons" button in my control menu?
14:55.22rronkiv(esc menu)
14:55.24trh"
14:55.24trhSubmitting or editing a GM ticket is now a protected action, and may not be done by third party AddOns.  
14:55.25trh"
14:55.28trhnot a nice change
14:55.33hyperChipmunkheh
14:55.38hyperChipmunkis for the GMs
14:55.40hyperChipmunk=x
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14:55.57deltronwhat's the main difference in WAU 1.8?
14:56.01hyperChipmunki imagine the spam they've been getting lately is massive
14:56.19Kaeltenbbiab guys, I'll sign on when I get to work
14:56.21Kaydeethreewhich is why we've got new API functions to report spam/mail
14:56.46hyperChipmunkyea, that's much nicer for them to handle
14:57.17Kaydeethreenice... 269/276MB caught by the BGD
14:57.31deltrondoes their solution actually filter out the spam?
14:57.55trhKaydeethree: ya... it's not too bad if their whispering throttling and reporting works
14:58.17Kaydeethreedel; dunno. I give the UI devs some credit though. they've at the very least added to the filters
14:58.39sylvanaarwhich addon puts up the dialog about profiling and libriaries?
14:58.46sylvanaarperformancefu?
14:58.54deltronyeah I'm glad they are officially coming out with an answer to the spam problem
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15:01.25Funkeh`hey all
15:02.29trhKaydeethree: the guys maintaining the filter lists on eu-germany are retards =)
15:02.29trhKaydeethree: at least for the forums with swear words
15:02.29Kaydeethreethe forum software is stupid
15:02.29harldephinwhat does a damn key binding need other than the obvious <bindings><binding name="" header="">cmd();</binding></bindings> and 2 BINDING_ constants refering to the name and header ?
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15:02.42trhi can't write in the hunter boards  "my pet eats roasted quail" (in german) without getting $§%§$&§'d
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15:03.59trheven though the word it thinks is swearing isn't that bad.. it means basically "shut up!"
15:04.09GandharvaAtlasloot @ wowace -> nice!
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15:05.00Kaydeethreemuch like grapes here in the states
15:05.00Funkeh`heh
15:05.29hyperChipmunkhehe yea
15:05.39hyperChipmunki've gotten bit by telaari grapes before =)
15:06.40hyperChipmunki made sure to put a disclaimer at the bottom of the post: "Don't !#$% your g!#$%s
15:06.53XuerianWait, atlasloot? 0_o
15:06.58hyperChipmunkin case there was any confusion, yaknow
15:07.16harldephinyep
15:07.35XuerianA official ace version, or did someone stick it up there? >_>
15:07.46Funkeh`yes its ace
15:07.49Funkeh`3.0
15:07.55XuerianOfficially.
15:08.00XuerianNot ct-mailmod style
15:08.01Funkeh`its been in the works for quite a few omnths
15:08.01Xuerian?
15:08.06Funkeh`officially..
15:08.09XuerianNice :D
15:08.16Funkeh`now waiting for atlas 2.0
15:08.20Funkeh`which afaik will be ace
15:08.52XuerianVery nice.
15:09.09GandharvaLibraries are broken, but nice to see it here. No more searching forums for downloads =)
15:09.24Funkeh`broken?
15:10.10Gandharvanot really, they download even if you check "without externals" in WAU
15:10.20Funkeh`ah
15:10.26Funkeh`not set correctly via svn
15:10.32Gandharvaseems so
15:11.33XuerianImported directly, huh :p
15:12.03Funkeh`well
15:12.10Funkeh`don't all svn newbies? :)
15:12.12Kirkburn|afkIs it possible to replace the WoW cursor (hand)?
15:13.07XuerianKirkburn|afk: Globally? o.0
15:13.13CIA-2303pettigrow * r36385 10LittleWigs/ (24 files in 5 dirs): LittleWigs: Added frFR (incomplete)
15:13.33Silviu-Kirkburn|afk yes
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15:13.51Laricclad|work can one buy your book in any kind of eBook format?
15:13.52Silviu-Make a folder World of Warcraft\Interface\Cursor
15:13.52StephmwKirkburn|afk: you're looking to change it so the middle finger points upwards?
15:13.53Xueriantexture overrides ftw?
15:14.41Silviu-And hmm
15:14.44Kirkburn|afkNot possible via an addon?
15:15.10XuerianYou could SetCursor() left and right, theoretically
15:15.34Silviu-Kirkburn|afk it was an blp on curse with Nightelf/Undead cursors
15:15.48Silviu-I still have the Undead one if u want :)
15:15.57Funkeh`sylvanaar: WAU isn't properly re-downloading the index file when you reload it
15:16.13Funkeh`sylvanaar: it seems you have to delete the cache file in the temp folder
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15:18.41CIA-2303gandharva * r36386 10AtlasLoot/:
15:18.42CIA-23AtlasLoot:
15:18.42CIA-23- fix Libraries
15:18.53Gandharvahope it works now :)
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15:20.43ruinnawith Prat, can i show system messages in chat frames other than main? i'd like to be able to see group rolling info in alternate frame..
15:20.51Kaydeethreewow. the big recursive unified diff of all of the interface changes is freaking huge. ~16k lines
15:20.58kebinusanwhats the diff between atlas loot and the carto loot module, anything major
15:21.10Kaydeethreeone's designed for atlas, the other for cart?
15:21.20kebinusanwell that was my first guess
15:21.50Funkeh`Gandharva: how does removing the property supposed to fix it?
15:21.57Funkeh`now it has no externals
15:22.14kenlyricbt3 is broken, right? I know I saw it earlier, but can't find the scroll.
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15:22.21Gandharvabah, I added it. dont know how this happend :/
15:22.54Funkeh`'Property svn:externals  deleted'
15:22.58Funkeh`that breaks things
15:23.05_NiCthere seems to be alot of bugs in the wowace-updater version of addons..?
15:23.10Gandharvagrrrr
15:23.13_NiCis there a way to get the "stable" releases only?
15:23.25kenlyricNiC: wowinterface.com
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15:23.39_NiChm, cartograhper is completely broken
15:24.00netcurseare the us servers up?
15:24.05Kaydeethreeno
15:24.07Matrix110yes
15:24.09_NiCkenlyric: I mean with the updater
15:24.19Xuerian_NiC: No
15:24.21netcurseno/yes?:)
15:24.30_NiCnetcurse: I think that's a "maybe".. :)
15:24.35KaydeethreeI didn't get the realm-select screen a few minutes ago
15:24.37Xuerian_NiC: Addons on the svn are implied as in alpha-state
15:24.40kenlyricthe updater is designed for people who like living on the edge, not noobs.
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15:25.07CIA-2303funkydude * r36387 10AtlasLoot/Libs/: AtlasLoot: add libs folder, on the road to fixing the externals
15:25.27Xuerian_NiC: Anyway, if you're using the svn (This includes WAU), the whole point is to help with development while using the addon and report errors so we can fix them :)
15:25.35CIA-2303gandharva * r36388 10AtlasLoot/Libraries/:
15:25.35CIA-23AtlasLoot:
15:25.36CIA-23- another try...
15:25.43_NiCif the stable releases are tagged as such in svn, there should be possible to make an updater that only cared for those releases.. :-\
15:25.54XuerianWho's the dev on atlasloot doing svn commits anyway?
15:26.12_NiCxuerian: yeah, I'm ok with that, I just didn't expect it to be completely dead. :>
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15:26.26_NiCbut those things  happen, I know.
15:26.34Matrix110_NiC thats not the purpose of the SVN, if you want to have bleeding edge updated Addons live with bugs sometimes
15:27.01GandharvaLOL
15:27.13Gandharvanow there is Libs and Libraries XD
15:27.16_NiCmatrix110: you mean release-tagging?
15:27.26Matrix110release tagging = wowinterface.com
15:27.35[Ammo]libraries is way too long a name
15:27.38[Ammo]you lose gandharva
15:27.38Kaydeethreegah. pastey's refusing to let me upload the .diff
15:27.51Gandharvabut he had Libraries in his original commit
15:28.06_NiCmatrix110: but the release is a certain revision, right? And it's usually tagged as some release (v1.2 or whatever) in subversion
15:28.27_NiCmatrix110: I don't see the problem with having an updater that uses the tags instead of revisions. :)
15:28.29Xuerian_NiC: There is no way to get revision X from WAU
15:28.41Xuerian_NiC: It is possible to do it in svn, yes
15:28.51Xuerianyou can do it by hand as well
15:28.51kenlyricno, the dev just picks a certain revision and that's the one he uploads.
15:28.56_NiCxuerian: yeah
15:29.00kenlyricthey're not marked special.
15:29.08_NiCkenlyric: tags aren't used? :-\
15:29.12Matrix110no
15:29.12_NiCthat makes it a bit harder :>
15:29.15Gandharvaand Libs is missing the svn:keyword + entries ^^
15:29.25sylvanaarnot everyone tags
15:29.29ruinna_NiC: addon authors would have to add these release tags manually, no? i think it might be difficult to organize..
15:29.49[Ammo]tagging is a hassle
15:29.53Xuerian^
15:30.00XuerianIt's a development svn
15:30.02[Ammo]which is why we release bigwigs with a revision number instead of a tag
15:30.12Kirkburn|afkQuartz has flight timers now!?
15:30.21XuerianKirkburn|afk: Quartz does everything.
15:30.30sylvanaari tag because i dont release much, its a pain
15:30.33Kirkburn|afkheh
15:30.40CIA-2303kunda * r36389 10AHsearch/ (4 files): (log message trimmed)
15:30.40CIA-23AHsearch:
15:30.40CIA-23- added 'Tooltip Settings'->'Simple Filters Display': this is enabled by default
15:30.40CIA-23- changed toc to 20100
15:30.40CIA-23- Ace2 libs update
15:30.41CIA-23Patch 2.1 changes/adds some Auction House Filters:
15:30.43CIA-23If your saved search queries doesn't select the correct filters you can change this filters with
15:30.50kenlyricoh goody, yet another mod with a flight timer.
15:30.52_NiCruinna: yes, once they reach a "stable" revision it could be tagged as version x.y and release that revision as a stable one.. I don't know how the development-routines for these addons are though, but that's how I do my development
15:31.00kenlyricI want to collect them all!
15:31.05ruinnabah.. the bliz dl'er is stuck at < 1MB.. are they just using me as seed node? :/
15:31.09evl[Ammo]: i've got some problems with SetCandyBarTimeLeft on an already registered bar which I just want to restart with a new time, I'm calling SetTimeLeft with 300 and then StartCandyBar, do I need to do anything else?
15:31.17sylvanaar_NiC: we aren't paid
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15:31.24ruinnasylvanaar: lol
15:31.27[Ammo]evl: that should work
15:31.39Kaydeethreeruinna: ouch, you didn't use the BGD to preleech stuff? you may want to look in to extracting the torrent and using your regular client
15:31.41[Ammo]evl: depending on the current state of the bar
15:31.45[Ammo]is the bar stopped?
15:31.47_NiCsylvanaar: so therefore you can't use development-tools to its full potential? :)
15:32.09[Ammo]_NiC: tagging is a pain in the ass
15:32.14CIA-2303gandharva * r36390 10AtlasLoot/Libs/:
15:32.14CIA-23AtlasLoot:
15:32.15CIA-23- no one needs Libs. Libraries are the king!
15:32.21ruinnaKaydeethree: yes, did background dl most of it, but somehow the tail end didn't come through..
15:32.25rronkivwould tagging make the stuff run faster?
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15:32.30evl[Ammo]: No, I can try stopping it before adjusting it though
15:32.34Kaydeethreethey pushed the last 7MB or so this morning
15:32.40[Ammo]evl: it should work fine when not stopped
15:32.43sylvanaar_NiC: i tag my releases..just reminding you that this is voluntary
15:32.44Kirkburn|afkWait, you said Cartographer is broken? Not for me it isn't ....
15:32.44_NiCrronkiv: if that's your only concern I can see why you're not bothering. :)
15:32.50Funkeh`Gandharva: for fucks sake
15:32.53Kirkburn|afk(that was @ _NiC)
15:32.54kenlyricthere's always an additional push on patch day.
15:32.57kenlyricthis is a pretty small one.
15:33.01rronkiv_NiC, i dont understand alot about programming
15:33.02Funkeh`i just spent time fixing that
15:33.02rronkivlol :P
15:33.08[Ammo]evl: if it doesn't give me a use case where it fux up
15:33.09Matrix110ruinna use a normal torrent client or restart the Blizz Dler
15:33.15evl[Ammo]: The main issue is when the duration is first 30 seconds, then I leave the bar registered but try to reuse it but this time at 300 seconds
15:33.24rronkivi dont honestly see what the diffrance would be tho, unless it makes it run smoother.
15:33.32ruinnaMatrix110: tyty.. it finally pushed through the last few kb. i'm patching now
15:33.33[Ammo]evl: ah, but then you have to call SetTime
15:33.39[Ammo]and SetTimeLeft
15:33.45evlSetTime is the startTime?
15:33.48Gandharvadidn´t want to change the toc and set the links in Libs folder. Now it works
15:33.50Matrix110ah kk
15:33.53[Ammo]evl: no it's the total time for the bar
15:33.57[Ammo]the one you provided at register
15:34.08[Ammo]timeleft is how much time is left till the bar expires
15:34.14[Ammo]timeleft can't be > time
15:34.38_NiCkirkburn|afk: hm, yeah. I was in AV and got the map of azeroth when I pressed M, and saw the raid running around between kalimdor and eastern kingdoms :>
15:34.39[Ammo](although someone request that it can, and show the bar as full until timeleft < time)
15:34.39evlok, it sounds like it would be a bit less cluttery just registering a completely new bar?
15:34.59[Ammo]evl: if you just register a new bar with the same name it'll reuse the old one
15:35.06Kirkburn|afk_NiC, ah, a very specific type of broken :P
15:35.08evlAhhh :) brilliant!
15:35.08[Ammo]essentially doing the same as settime tec
15:35.17_NiCbeen a while since I updated it though, so there might be some settings that messes things up
15:35.18[Ammo]but easier on you
15:35.25[Ammo]you should also set your bar as fire and forget then
15:35.25_NiCI'll remove the settings and see how it turns out
15:35.25evlGreat, i'll try that now
15:35.28[Ammo]when starting it
15:35.33[Ammo]that way the bar can be reused by otehr addons
15:35.43[Ammo]since it's released into the bar pool when it's done
15:35.49Kirkburn|afk_NiC, then update for goodness sake
15:35.51evl[Ammo]: On a side note, is there any way to get ListCandyBarsInGroup("x") ?
15:36.17Kirkburn|afkIt's hardly fair to come on here complaining about broken addons and about WAU, the method of updating such addons at the same time.
15:36.39_NiCkirkburn|afk: I did update today, but before that it had been a while
15:36.50[Ammo]evl: not sure about that one, it's easy to keep your own registry and hmm
15:36.53_NiCI wasn't very clear, sorry :>
15:36.57Kirkburn|afk=)
15:37.19evl[Ammo]: but then I have to track them and use SetCandyBarCompletion don't I?
15:38.06[Ammo]you could just do: CandyBar.groups[name].handlers
15:38.07[Ammo]or something
15:38.07_NiCheh, funny. I click "Logout" on the menu, I get the /played-text in my chatwindow, but nothing else happens
15:38.10[Ammo]it's a global var
15:38.16[Ammo]and traverse that
15:38.36_NiCsame for clicking exit.. :-\
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15:39.18evl[Ammo]: great, I'll do that
15:39.24Oridanhey, afternoon all
15:39.37[Ammo]evl: CandyBar.groups[group].bars
15:39.41[Ammo]that's the correct table
15:39.46[Ammo]traverse with ipairs
15:39.49[Ammo]and don't touch it ofcourse
15:39.51evl:D
15:39.59[Ammo]you get names returned of bars in that group
15:40.05Oridananyone want to volunteer to give me a hand with waterfall? ^^
15:40.34Kalman|[Ammo]: Speaking of timeleft > time... ;)
15:41.01Oridani'm attempting to turn it into a quest log, but was wondering if there was a way to add custom controls into the pane, instead of using its addcontrol function
15:42.00[Ammo]Kalman|: patience, bigger fish to fry first
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15:42.08evlArena Preparation only resets any cooldown with less or exactly 10 minutes?
15:42.35Kalman|[Ammo]: Not a problem, just a reminder since you were talking about it.  :)
15:42.36CartasSo not fair on us warriors! :(
15:43.04ruinnathrowing this Q out again: anyone know a way i can get party roll chat or other system msgs to display in alternate chat frame, away from main?
15:43.17StylpeOh yay, what a detailed error! "Couldn't parse XML in ..." =(
15:43.27CIA-2303funkydude * r36391 10AtlasLoot/ (AtlasLoot.toc Libraries/ Libs/): AtlasLoot: Fix Gandharva's mess, use of svn not dev server, use of 'Libs' folder instead, more familiar name
15:43.38_NiCcartographer can't find a library instance of RollCall-1.0 on login
15:43.53_NiCin Cartographer.lua, line 14
15:43.55[Ammo]ruinna: with the standard userinterface rightclick on chattab?
15:44.04[Ammo]_NiC: then you did not download with externals?
15:44.20ruinna[Ammo]: i thought that the channels under system weren't selectable?
15:44.31GandharvaFunkeh`: This was not my fault. this was the origanal commit :P
15:44.35_NiC[ammo]: hm.. not sure really. Used the python-updater
15:44.37ruinnacan only update colors of those in there.. can't select
15:44.44[Ammo]ruinna: hmm
15:44.49_NiCI think maybe it's without externals pr default
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15:44.54_NiCI'll check
15:45.05[Ammo]if that is so nic then just download the rollcall lib standalone
15:45.13[Ammo]the error is quite clear
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15:46.38_NiCwonder what causes me to be unable to logout/exit
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15:48.29TheKarnis there any way to hide outgoing messages that i send using SendChatMessage() ?
15:48.39Funkeh`hide?
15:48.39Matrix110yes
15:48.49TheKarn~hide
15:48.52purlACTION runs away to shelter.
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15:49.00Matrix110check the !whatever addons how they hide the messages:P
15:49.25Funkeh`why would you want to hide it i wonder :p
15:49.42Matrix110Funkeh` there are things as EnchantList which SPAM the person that requests
15:49.46Matrix110and you dont want to see that
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15:49.53TheKarnyup
15:50.06Matrix110or GetLinkBot spams the user Items
15:50.12Matrix110i dont want to see them always:P
15:51.11_NiCah, with rollcall installed everything was much better.. :) I get some duplicate locales in cartographer_poi and _notes though
15:51.31TheKarnMatrix110, where are these !whatever addons?
15:51.40Funkeh`_NiC: thats because you are are using both LoD and non-LoD
15:51.43Funkeh`ie your fault
15:51.50Matrix110Try: CraftBot, EnchantList, GemList :P
15:52.01Matrix110on files.wowace.com
15:52.16_NiCfunkeh`: lod?
15:52.23_NiCyay, and I can even logout now :>
15:52.31Funkeh`load on demand
15:52.43kebinusan<PROTECTED>
15:52.48Funkeh`so you have all the cartographer folder inside the cartographer foler and inside the addons folder
15:52.56_NiChmm.
15:53.07Funkeh`e.g. cartographer_instanceloot x2
15:53.17Funkeh`both inside the addons folder and the cartographer folder
15:53.22Funkeh`so you have 2 options
15:53.24_NiCyou're right!
15:53.30_NiCwhy on earth do I have that.. :-\
15:53.32Funkeh`run the cartographerlod.bat file
15:53.47Funkeh`or delete the cartographer_module folders in the addons folder
15:54.04Funkeh`because you use WAU and then a different updated
15:54.09Funkeh`updater*
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15:54.24Funkeh`WAU = auto LoD
15:54.29Funkeh`other are not
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15:54.57_NiCthose inside cartographer/ are the lod-ones?
15:55.29Funkeh`they are non-lod
15:55.49_NiCthere are way more cartographer-folders directly under Addons/ though, than under addons/cartographer/
15:55.55_NiCis that normal?
15:56.04Funkeh`yes
15:56.08Funkeh`they are the LoD ones
15:56.21Funkeh`its to prevent them from loading if you are not using them
15:56.30Funkeh`saving memory
15:57.35_NiCfunkeh`: what would you suggest, removing then from addons/ or addons/cartographer/?
15:57.36ruinnafound it.. but perhaps hasn't been pushed into Prat yet; "System Message Control Tool" http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4005.msg85365#msg85365
15:58.30ruinna(for management of system messages, pushing them to other chat frames)
15:58.30Funkeh`_NiC: depends what updater you are using, i would suggest using LoD(keeping them outside the carto folder), but if the updater you are using doesn't do auto-LoD, you will need to run the bat file evry time you update
15:58.52_NiCfunkeh`: I'm not sure really. I got the wowace.py-utility (using linux), and have no idea what it does.
15:59.14Funkeh`i think it has that functionality
15:59.19Funkeh`lemme check
15:59.32_NiCthe updater adds the folders in both places though?
15:59.35evl[Ammo]: ahhh your tip solved all my problems, big <3
15:59.45Funkeh`_NiC: nope
16:00.04Funkeh`_NiC: it will be one or the other, dependant on if its capable of auto-lod
16:00.13Fisker-BARTENDER!
16:00.33Funkeh`is it kemayos python script you are using _NiC?
16:01.28_NiCfunkeh`: yep
16:01.45Fisker-hmm
16:01.49Fisker-nevcairiel
16:01.51Fisker-what have you done?!
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16:02.33Funkeh`_NiC: open up the script and scroll to line 55
16:02.40Oridandoes anyone here know if Nargiddley goes by another name ?
16:02.48Funkeh`_NiC: it sohuld looks like     def update_addon(self, name, get_deps = True, unpackage = False, delete_old = True, force = False):
16:03.05Funkeh`_NiC: where it says unpackage = False, change ut to true
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16:05.16_NiCfunkeh`: and then remove the folders inside cartographer/ and all is well?
16:05.23Funkeh`nah
16:05.27Funkeh`go in the carto folder
16:05.33Funkeh`and delete the changelog.txt and .xml files
16:05.39Funkeh`then run the updater
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16:06.25CIA-2303grayhoof * r36392 10EavesDrop/ (EavesDrop.lua EavesDrop.toc install.txt readme.txt): EavesDrop: 2.1 Final Commit
16:07.09_NiCfunkeh`: Bindings.xml too? What about all the .xml's inside Libs/?
16:07.15Funkeh`nono
16:07.19Funkeh`just the changelog.xml
16:07.21Funkeh`in the main folder
16:07.35Fisker-has US servers gone live yet?
16:07.45Funkeh`kidding right?
16:07.45_NiCdon't have that actually, I have a Changelog-Cartographer-r36223.xml though
16:07.48tsigoFisker-: still down
16:07.51Funkeh`EU servers ain't gone down yet
16:07.56CIA-2303grayhoof * r36393 10sct/ (install.txt readme.txt sct.lua sct.toc sct_event_config.lua): sct: 2.1 Final Commit
16:07.59rubikso 2.1 does cometh today then?
16:08.04Funkeh`_NiC: yep that one
16:08.05rubikconfirmed?
16:08.06Fisker-yarr?
16:08.11tsigoyop
16:08.12Fisker-what do you mean mr. Funkeh`?
16:08.17rubikk
16:08.26art3misif its not coming out today i wonder what the hell this "update" is ;P
16:08.30CIA-2303grayhoof * r36394 10sct_options/sct_options.toc: sct_options: 2.1 Final Commit
16:08.32Funkeh`Fisker-: if US servers come up before Eu servers even gone down i be anoyed
16:08.35_NiCfunkeh`: filelist.wua, leave that one?
16:08.45rubikart3mis: haha.. i'm at work.. so can't fire up the game.. :P
16:08.47Fisker-arr?
16:08.48Funkeh`_NiC: only 2 files, the chanelogs
16:08.55Funkeh`_NiC: leave the rest alone
16:08.59art3misvnc is your friend ;P
16:09.13Oridanthe euro clients have the old "extended maintainance due to patching to 2.1" notes up now
16:09.19CIA-2303grayhoof * r36395 10sctd/ (readme.txt sctd.lua sctd.toc): sctd: 2.1 Final Commit
16:09.29rubiki do vpn into home pc and start up rdc.. but can't start wow through there..
16:10.00art3mishttp://12.129.232.127/background/WoW-2.0.12.6546-x86-Win-enUS-BKGND.torrent
16:10.03CIA-2303grayhoof * r36396 10sctd_options/sctd_options.toc: sctd_options: 2.1 Final Commit
16:10.11art3misstart up yer torrent and get the bulk of it ;P
16:10.20_NiCfunkeh`: alright, updater ran, now I have the folders in both places. remove those inside cartographer/?
16:10.22art3misthere's about 10megs for the final aprt and the updater
16:10.24rubiki already have patch files 1 and 2.. are there more? :P
16:10.36art3misoh nope only he launcher will get the remaining for ya
16:10.47Funkeh`_NiC: thats not right, its should automatically move them out
16:10.49rubikcool.. will grab it after work then, np
16:10.49tsigoif you used the background downloader, there's like 10 MB extra today
16:10.54_NiChm.
16:11.10rubiki only used the background downloader to get the .torrent files and then used utorrent ftw
16:11.17rubikbut yeah.. i'm all set then
16:11.24_NiCfunkeh`: oh well, I can manage to move them out manually.
16:11.29Funkeh`_NiC: can you install addons wiht that script?
16:11.35_NiCfunkeh`: yes
16:11.40art3misya know it kind of bugs me that i cant check my addons until i connect to a server
16:11.47Funkeh`_NiC: just completely remove all teh cartographer folders then
16:11.53Funkeh`_NiC: from the addons folder
16:11.58Funkeh`_NiC:  do a clean install
16:14.18_NiCremoved all cartographer, and install just "Cartographer" now. it still puts alot of folders in cartographer/ but that must be some default-stuff?
16:15.14_NiC_Battleground, _Coordinates, _Foglight,  _GroupColors, _GuildPositions, _InstanceLoot, _InstanceMaps, _InstanceNotes, _LookNFeel, _Notes, _POI, _Professions, _Waypoints, _ZoneInfo
16:15.46_NiCSounds very basic at least
16:16.08_NiCI'll try put in some other stuff.
16:16.40_NiCinstalled _Fishing, it's put directly under Addons/
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16:18.59Kaeltenhows it going guys?
16:19.05Funkeh`hey Kaelten
16:21.29Gamefaqhi Kaelten
16:21.39Kaeltenello
16:21.43Kaeltenslow start so far
16:21.44Chompersahoy
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16:26.49Kaeltenalthough we're doing ~ 3Mbyte/s off the files atm
16:26.59Funkeh`heh
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16:27.12Silviu-Kaelten wait till tomorrow when eu will have ;)
16:27.17Kaeltenoh god
16:27.19Silviu-then chaos ^^
16:27.30Kaeltenya it always gets worse on wendsday
16:27.31Chompersso the patch is on live US servers?
16:27.33_NiCfunkeh`: seems everything is working now, thank you very much. :) /hug
16:27.40Funkeh`np
16:28.01CIA-2303grayhoof * r36397 10EavesDrop/EavesDrop.xml: EavesDrop: Fixed history icon
16:29.26deltronheh supposedly wau doesn't work in xp x64
16:29.57Kalman|WAU works fine in x64.
16:30.13deltroni'm checking to see if the dude has .net framework
16:30.50Kalman|I run it at home, so the problem is not his OS, can verify that much.
16:31.00deltronah
16:31.40Silviu-Kaelten btw, why u had to make WAU use .net :/
16:32.04Silviu-I need nothing from .net framework only bloats my computer :P
16:32.10Fisker-because .net > *
16:32.22Kaeltenlol, it wasn't my call at that time but it wasn't a bad decision
16:32.23KarlThePaganhmm files is holding up nicely for a patch day
16:32.25Kaeltenbut we're looking at java
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16:32.44KarlThePaganKalman|, are you running windows x64?
16:32.44Azurewrathjava sucks. 'nuff said. ;p
16:32.52KarlThePaganlol
16:33.01art3misSilviu-: he went to a bar one night and .NET bought him a drink and one thing lead to another and he decided that he needed to share .NET with everyone because it's a huge whore and gives better than it gets ;P
16:33.12KarlThePaganI must be a genius then Azurewrath because the java based WAU is going to kick ass
16:33.14KaeltenKarlThePagan: ya we're already doing 3ish mb/s
16:33.23Punkie`Guys, how do I find out the ID of a spell from the spellbook?
16:33.26Kaeltenit is looking pretty good
16:33.37Kaeltenwe'll have a public beta within a few weeks I'm hoping
16:33.50art3misi likes wuu
16:34.07art3misfor evertyhing that isnt wowace
16:34.10KarlThePaganwe can probably offer plugins for other update sites
16:34.21KarlThePaganO.o ;)
16:34.21Kalman|KarlThePagan: At home, yes.
16:34.25art3misplugins for everything else would be good though
16:34.29kebinusanJust curious anyone know if chronometer got updated to use the new buff tracking stuff in 2.1
16:34.36KarlThePaganyea it's architected properly so it'll be a snap
16:34.43Silviu-art3mis lol :))
16:35.07art3misi suppose i could have used bada boom bada bing
16:35.16Silviu-kebinusan i think no, u was waiting for it too :)
16:35.16art3misbut that makes me feel dirty
16:35.17CIA-2303nickenyfiken 07Nickenyfiken * r36398 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFuLocals-enUS.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Fix drycoded localization.
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16:35.31art3misoh
16:35.40Antiarc|WorkHow expensive is it to set or unset a metatable?
16:35.49art3miswhats the luink to that thingy to change the all the tocs for ya to the new version?
16:36.05art3misive got a few addons that i "cant
16:36.08stavmarso is there  amod that will tell us how much memory use is being done by other mods, so we can evaluate our selections?
16:36.11art3miscant update properly
16:36.30Hjalteart3mis, does 2.1 require all addons to be updated?
16:36.38art3misi would assume to ahve the correct tocs at least
16:36.48Kaydeethreemainly unitframe mods and stuff involving gm petitions
16:36.51art3misthere was a toc changer program though
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16:37.00Kaydeethreetoc-changing defeats the purpose of having tocs
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16:37.07Hjaltetocs doesnt matter. tick load out of date, or whatever the name is? - I just wouldnt use a toc changer program, thats it.
16:37.09Kaydeethreethere's a "load out-of-date" checkbox for a reason
16:37.09tsigostavmar: PerformanceFu, FuBar_Usage
16:37.31art3misit doesnt say out of date for bad tocs it says incompatible
16:37.46Kaydeethreeonly for stuff written before 2.0
16:37.51art3misright
16:38.01art3misand a bunch of mine sill work right even though they are pre 2.0
16:38.11art3mishence the need for a program that just changes tocs for me
16:38.22art3miscuz it's actually closer to a bunch than a few ;P
16:38.23nevcairielback
16:38.25art3misand im lazy
16:38.25Kaydeethree? wouldn't those addons have been updated?
16:38.27kebinusanLooks like class timer might an alternative to chronometer
16:38.38kebinusanmaybe quartz can do it too who knows heh
16:38.41art3misdid you mi9ss the part about them still working correctly?
16:38.58SarozCryect, time to make a "is everyone potted with either 2 elixirs or 1 flask" feature in bigbrother, with an announce option
16:39.06SarozCryect, don't forget stuff like http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32899 :p
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16:39.22StephmwSaroz: don't forget any item enchants either
16:39.30Sarozyou can't see that :p
16:39.31StephmwSaroz: and stats checks... Fire Resist anybody?
16:39.38Sarozyou can't see that :p
16:39.48Stephmwsure you can if you mandate a raid addon
16:39.50nevcairielwhen you are in inspect distance
16:39.51nevcairielyou can!
16:39.52Stephmwguilds typically do
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16:39.53Sarozmaybe fire/frost potion etc. check
16:40.03kebinusanresist pots only last 2 minutes now
16:40.07kebinusanI thought
16:40.08Sarozeh no
16:40.11kebinusanoh other type
16:40.12kebinusannm
16:40.14Sarozthats conjured ones
16:40.15nevcairielthere was an addon for nefarian to check if people were wearing the damn cloak
16:40.18Nickenyfikenhey hey
16:40.19CryectYeah I need to add the new stuff in
16:40.33kebinusannevcairiel:  /raitem
16:40.35CryectI just modified the buff window table really quick last night for the old stuff
16:40.36kebinusanmaybe
16:40.37nevcairielSaroz: all pots only last 2 minutes, not only the "Cauldron'ed"
16:40.44Sarozreally?!?!
16:40.48Cryectyeah
16:40.49kebinusanyeah
16:40.53Sarozbull
16:40.55kebinusanno more hour long protection pots
16:40.57Sarozoh well
16:40.58kebinusanits a good change
16:41.24Chompersan addon called BigBrother, hurr
16:41.25art3mispoor hippies
16:41.27Hjaltekebinusan, why a good change?
16:41.29Cryectnow why the hell for the shattrath flask of mighty restoration why couldn't it just use the normal flask of mighty restoration spell
16:41.39Chompersit must have auto g-kick abilities
16:41.46nevcairielno more resi potion stacking for boring fights
16:42.03Cryectwhat fight did you stack resist pots?
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16:42.13SarozONYXIA!
16:42.20nevcairielaran
16:42.24Saroz...
16:42.24tsigoCryect: looks like it has to dispel itself outside those zones
16:42.25nevcairielstupid guilds did it
16:42.27Sarozpots on aran?
16:42.28Sarozah
16:42.39Sarozanyway Cryect, gogo :p
16:42.55Kody-[09:41] <Cryect> now why the hell for the shattrath flask of mighty restoration why couldn't it just use the normal flask of mighty restoration spell <- that flask is limited to certain zones isn't it?
16:42.56Cryectheh would have never thought of using them on aran >_>
16:43.01Cryectyeah I see that now
16:43.03kenlyricaran?
16:43.08kenlyricyou mean, like one of each?
16:43.14Cryectmiught be too powerful if you farmed or did like wsg with them :-p
16:43.20SarozNR pot for aran = win!!!
16:43.27Cryectand Shadow
16:43.29Sarozyus
16:43.35kenlyricI put shadow buff up every time!
16:43.55Kaeltenholy shit we spiked at 34mbytes /s
16:44.03[Ammo]haha
16:44.08[Ammo]nice
16:44.28kenlyricthe last fight I took a resist potion for was Ragnaros.
16:44.36kenlyric(and no, I never did naxx)
16:44.41tsigohehe
16:44.48tsigothe protection potion zone
16:44.51KarlThePaganI used NR pots on Moam
16:44.54KarlThePaganand that was it
16:44.59[Ammo]kenlyric: no AQ40 either?
16:45.02CIA-2303funkydude * r36399 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: toc > 20100
16:45.17kebinusanwe use them on kazzak for the mini enrage
16:45.24yacoobis patch madness on?
16:45.28kenlyric[Ammo]: no, 1.12 destroyed raiding right after we killed fankriss
16:45.33[Ammo]oh?
16:45.40KarlThePaganyea
16:45.40ChompersBuru
16:45.49Chompersnature resist pots there
16:45.53KarlThePaganwe couldn't down fankriss after 1.12
16:46.03Kalman|Er... what did 1.12 do to raiding?
16:46.08kenlyricwe couldn't down any of them after 1.12
16:46.15kenlyricKalman|: made people hopped up on pvp
16:46.27Kalman|kenlyric: We just PvPed after the raids.
16:46.36kenlyricthat, and information burnout from TBC beginning.
16:46.36Kalman|Although most of us already had > PvP weaps at that point.
16:46.39KarlThePaganKalman|, they changed shout threat if I remember
16:46.43KarlThePaganor something like that
16:46.57KarlThePaganmade the adds tougher to solo tank
16:46.57sbuhm i could update all addons in seperate folder before EU patch
16:47.09nevcairielare the US servers back up yet?
16:47.15kebinusanneg
16:47.16Cryectno
16:47.17kenlyricmy server is special.
16:47.21kenlyricwe're not coming up for five hours
16:47.24nevcairielare they supposed to be up yet?
16:47.30kebinusannot till 11 pst
16:47.39kebinusanso 1 more hour
16:47.59yacoobservers dying
16:48.00kebinusanbut its patch day expect that pushed back till 4 pst
16:48.02yacoobpeople going 'waaah!'
16:48.07yacoobdeath, doom and despair!
16:48.07KarlThePaganhaha yea
16:48.47kebinusandaily quests restart when the server does, so the trick is to get in and start your netherdrake quests when the come up so you can catch the rolling restarts
16:49.16kenlyricheh.
16:49.16Cryectexcept the server doesn't restart daily?
16:49.17KarlThePagannice
16:49.17Kaeltenholy shit my 90th percentile for the day is like 27 mbytes/s
16:49.18nevcairielheh
16:49.23KarlThePaganrolling restarts tho
16:49.24kenlyricit restarts every 10 minutes :)
16:49.31KarlThePaganKaelten, oh shi... $$$
16:49.44Kaelten:S
16:49.45Kaeltenlol
16:49.48KarlThePaganhope they bill 90th for the month
16:49.52kenlyricKaelten: I can't decide from your words if this good or not.
16:50.00Kaeltenya 90th for the month
16:50.01kenlyricwau needs ads.
16:50.05KarlThePagangood lol
16:50.05Kaeltenwhich is only around 13 atm
16:50.12kebinusanheh, I pointed out to my guild that only unit frames should break and mirrored grid, aguf, and pitbull for em
16:50.13kenlyricnone of that traffic is generating ad revenue :)
16:50.26kenlyrickebinusan: that's smart.
16:50.32kenlyricI should probably do that.
16:50.33Kaeltenya we're planning for it in wau2
16:50.54KarlThePaganyay for HTML frame
16:50.56kenlyriclet me just check to be sure there aren't any updates.. ;)
16:52.05kebinusantuesday was probably a bad day to set this tattle cron job running tho
16:52.18nevcairiellol
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16:53.24CIA-2303cryect * r36400 10BigBrother/BuffWindow.lua: BigBrother - Added the Shattrath flasks, seems to still be working (don't happen to have any to test with). Still need to add the new guardian elixirs and the Unstable Flasks.
16:53.30kebinusanwhat we need is 14 people to update one battlegroup weekly instead of one person doing 14 :-)
16:53.57Cryectwe need 1 million people to update 14 battlegroups each week!
16:54.00nevcairieldoes anyone know where the tokens for the shattrath flasks drop anyway?
16:54.04nevcairieli couldnt find out
16:54.14kebinusanThe eye I think
16:54.20SarozCryect, what about 1xguadian and 1xbattle?
16:54.45CryectWell in the buff window it does it that way :-p
16:54.53Saroz<3
16:54.58CryectI need to add it for the command though
16:55.05Sarozjust need a "X didn't fucking pot up" announcement
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16:55.57kebinusanSaroz can we rename it, X is paying repair bills tonight cause he doesnt want to pot up
16:56.09Sarozhihi
16:56.34nevcairieli will use my left-over pots
16:56.36CIA-2303toadkiller * r36401 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc AutoBarItemList.lua ChangeList.lua):
16:56.36CIA-23AutoBar:
16:56.37CIA-23-- TOC update 20100
16:56.41nevcairieland after that probably always flask
16:56.56kebinusanKaelten: doesnt filefront mirror files.wowace.com or somethin? if traffic gets bad you redirect em there
16:57.11Kaeltenthose guys? hell no
16:57.20nevcairielits patch day, files always breaks then, thats just "normal" :P
16:57.28Kaelten:P
16:57.30Kaeltenso far so good
16:57.36nevcairielwait for europe!
16:57.40kebinusanheh
16:57.42Ominousrofl
16:57.51Kaeltenwe aren't going to have as much of a bandwith issue as in the past
16:57.54Kaeltenthis is a 100 mbit port
16:58.08Kaeltenwe've served 32.15GB in the last 3 and a half hours
16:58.09kebinusandont curse yourself now
16:58.23nevcairielits on lighty or?
16:58.24Arrowmaster100 mbit? thats it?
16:58.40KaeltenArrowmaster: it used to be a 10
16:58.54Arrowmasterso much failure
16:58.58nevcairielah well i suppose lighty shouldnt cause any performance issues
16:59.01nevcairieli hope :D
16:59.11Kaeltenya load is at .87 atm
16:59.30Kaeltenthis is our first big patch since we've been on the new system
16:59.32Arrowmasteri know a guy that owns a datacenter in irvine ca, 100mbit is still weak
16:59.50Kaeltenya but even full usag eof the 100mbit is expensive
16:59.51nevcairiel100mbit i still alot for serving a lot of small files
17:00.46nevcairielthat reminds me, your "special" friend stop hammering the box ?
17:00.57kebinusan100mb port plugged into a 28.8 k modem :-)
17:01.02Kaeltennevcairiel: yep
17:01.02*** join/#wowace ven (i=ven@i59F54B79.versanet.de)
17:01.03Kaelten:)
17:01.14Xuerian0.o
17:01.17Kaeltenpretty sure anyway let me double ccheck
17:01.48Kaeltenif he's still doing it he's being mroe respectful overall
17:01.58Kaeltensomeone from qwest.net likes the server though
17:02.05Xueriano.0
17:02.10Cryecthaha
17:02.11MikmaTekkub: noob!
17:02.13Arrowmastertime for me to put more load on the svn since it looks like somebodys deleted old addons that i never removed from my local dir
17:02.14*** part/#wowace Mikma (i=mikma@reaktio.net)
17:02.17Kaelten71.218.137.239
17:02.32Tekkubfuck off Mikma
17:02.35Kinkx"Cartographer_Herbalism: Increase the radius when scanning for nearby nodes to 20 from 8. If it's too large, please let me (or someone) know."
17:02.43KinkxIt's back to 8 in the latest one
17:02.45KaeltenArrowmaster: the public svn is on a seperate box
17:03.11XuerianArrowmaster: Funkeh`tagged'n bagged old addons earlier
17:03.16CryectArrowmaster: who knows who would ever delte old addons!
17:03.30XuerianArrowmaster: literally tagged, so look in tags :P
17:03.58Arrowmastertheyre just old addons i should have deleted long ago
17:04.04Xuerian<PROTECTED>
17:04.18Kaeltenstill some 600-700 addons on the site
17:04.31Cryectyou are prolly at fault for the TOC Version 1800 addon eh!
17:06.24kebinusanyeah the svn has grown quite a bit, I was browsing the other day going oooh whats this do a bunch of times
17:06.24Cryectwth he kept the 1800one
17:06.24CryectERROR: (http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ABInfo Visor/) interface 1800 too old
17:06.24Ominousfuck my account has been hacked
17:06.24Xueriano.o
17:06.24kebinusanOminous: :-(
17:06.24Cryect:(
17:06.24XuerianOminous: Damage control?
17:07.11Ominous?
17:07.11kebinusanMy ex guild leader got the guild bank hacked... only time I was really happy to hear someone getting hacked
17:07.11XuerianReport to blizz immediately, go through all built-in recovery steps, etc
17:07.11KinkxI don't see how it's possible to hack an account, are they doing brute force?
17:07.11CryectIts called you have a trojan
17:07.14CIA-2303toadkiller * r36402 10AutoBarConfig/ (4 files):
17:07.14CIA-23AutoBarConfig:
17:07.14CIA-23-- TOC update 20100
17:07.17Kinkxthen it's the fault of the user
17:07.19Cryector fell for a phishing scam
17:07.23grzesieqI'd use a dict first, Kinkx ;-)
17:07.49kebinusananyone feel like taking odds on the us realms coming back up on time
17:07.54Kinkxuser error if brute force works, user error if you get a trojan
17:08.03Kinkxshouldn't be possible to hack an account
17:08.19yacoobuser errror if brute force works?
17:08.26yacoobyou mean, dev error... :)
17:08.31Kinkxif your password is password and your username is your character
17:08.33Cryectwell your password has to include a number and letters
17:08.39Cryectwell you can't choose password
17:08.45yacoobas for sniffing, there are those nice thingies you can connect between keyboard and box...
17:08.49Cryectand it has to be at least 8 alphanumerics
17:08.55kebinusanrandom number letter mixed case with punctuation
17:08.56grzesieqKinkx: that's not brute force
17:09.12yacoobto make brute force futile, blizz should introduce lockdown of account + email alert about it
17:09.21XuerianNontheless, he's got nothing to loose by doing everything conceivable to get it back
17:09.26Cryectyacoob: yeah because I'm sure the people who are stealing accounts attach keyboard recorders inbetween everyone's keyboard & computer :-p
17:09.47grzesieqbtw, what do I do when I forget my secret question/answer? :p
17:09.48yacoobCryect, no, but it would make a great "practical joke"
17:09.50yacoobwhich reminds me
17:09.56yacoobfriend of mine told me the story
17:10.11yacoobgf of his guildmate logged on with the character, MT of the guild
17:10.20yacoobexplained who she is, played and chatted a bit
17:10.24kebinusanIf only blizzard added an in game guild bank function so we wouldnt need to to share password information with our officers Id feel alot better
17:10.27yacoob...undressed his char, put everything to bank
17:10.33yacoob"Let him have some fun after login"
17:10.49kebinusanyacoob: done that :-), mailed everything BOE To one of his alts
17:10.50Xueriankebinusan: "Need to share password information"?
17:10.53XuerianBuh
17:11.32kebinusanXuerian: yeah sadly you need to have people who can access the guild banks
17:11.38CIA-2303sano * r36403 10LoggerHead/LoggerHead.toc: LoggerHead: Updated .toc
17:11.43Xueriankebinusan: Have the officers operate the banks
17:12.02kebinusanXuerian: yes, but I still need to give out passwords
17:12.04yacoobguildbanks + various level accesses would be good
17:12.09Xuerianblergh.
17:12.26kebinusanand I know they arent memorizing 10 char random passwords
17:12.26Arrowmasteryacoob: weve got guildmates that know each other irl and sometimes logon each others account and fly as high as possible in shatt, then dismount and logoff
17:12.39yacoobthere are tricks to make a nice "random" password, which is hard to remember if you don't know the key, and easy if you do
17:13.10yacoobArrowmaster, hehe :) How high you need to be in order to *see* you're falling after the loading screen? :)
17:13.43CIA-2303sorren * r36404 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers.toc:
17:13.43CIA-23SorrenTimers:
17:13.43CIA-23- toc wasn't pointing at the right place for Babble-2.2
17:13.48[dRaCo]go for the limit, that'd be enough
17:13.51Arrowmasternot sure never tried it
17:14.11yacoobtoo bad mounts don't work on Azeroth
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17:14.23yacoobimagine flying around Teldrassil, watching people jump off :)
17:15.16kebinusanan easy one is just move your hands off the home row, like one up one down, makes for some pretty random looking passwords
17:17.13kebinusanyeah I wish they'd allow for flying mounts in azeroth, herbing is such a bitch at 100% ground speed
17:17.32kenlyricyacoob: the trick to that is to allow spaces and set the length limiit at 128.
17:18.09kenlyricdon't herb in azeroth :)
17:18.21yacoobdon't herb, winners don't use herb.
17:18.33kebinusanwell unfortunately gromsblood doesnt grow in outland
17:18.53art3misbooooooooooooooooooo
17:18.57art3misservers arent up yet
17:18.58kenlyricgromswaaa?
17:18.59Kaydeethreeyay for felwood
17:19.01kenlyricis that used for something?
17:19.10Kaydeethreeart; it's not 11am pdt yet
17:19.17kebinusanwhen you are on a realm that no one discovered the fortification flask, yes
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17:19.46Kaydeethreeand it's patchday. you're insane if you're expecting the servers to come up early
17:19.47CIA-2303nickenyfiken * r36405 10/tags/FuBar_TrainerFu/: Created folder remotely
17:20.06kebinusanmake a few hundred potions when the realms come up maybe there is a reasonable discovery chance now
17:20.08CIA-2303nickenyfiken 0720003 * r36406 10FuBar_TrainerFu/: FuBar_TrainerFu: Tag
17:20.17yacoobhehe
17:20.35yacoobjust imagined: Dungeon Keeper style voice of narrator: "It is Patch day"
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17:20.44kebinusanDungeon keeper was a great game
17:20.50Arrowmasterkebinusan: you mean since theres actually a discovery chance now?
17:20.54yacoob(the original has it "It is Pay Day", after hearing which you were rushing to lock the treasury door)
17:21.08kenlyrickebinusan: fort flask, waaa?
17:21.15kebinusanArrowmaster: well that too, even when there was a chance before the discovery system was extremely rare
17:21.17kenlyricyour words confuse and irritate me!
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17:21.33kebinusankenlyric: flask of fortification, flask of the titans
17:21.38Arrowmasteri wonder what the exploit was that caused them to disable discoverys completely
17:21.44kenlyricflask, on a tank... man, that'd be nice.
17:22.16yacoob99 flasks on a wall, if you quench down one, 98 will follow...
17:22.18kenlyricArrowmaster: full bags. You could create potions with full bags, the potion creation would fail, but you'd still proc a disdcover cahnce.
17:22.25Arrowmasterah
17:22.50kebinusanbut hey you could discover them by drinking potions for a while too
17:22.59Arrowmasterthat would have been a nice bug to exploit when it was possible
17:23.09kebinusanArrowmaster: amen
17:24.11kenlyricyou could actually still do that after the fix.
17:24.22kenlyricbut the discovery was turned off, so it would be fruitless.
17:24.27Stylpeckknight: There?
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17:27.56StylpeDammit. Anyone here have trouble using Cartographer_Waypoints:SetPointAsWaypoint()? I'm only getting a corrupted image instead of the arrow.
17:28.01ckknighthey all
17:28.05StylpeOh yay!
17:28.06PHL-Chuckhello
17:31.09Stylpeckknight: Do I have to do anything special before I use Cartographer_Waypoints:SetPointAsWaypoint()?
17:31.21ckknightno
17:31.26[dRaCo]uh... bt3 bugging for anyone else on 2.0.12?
17:31.35nevcairielread commit notes, or forum posts
17:31.39yacoobwheee!
17:31.40nevcairielowned :P
17:32.09StylpeWell, I'm only getting a corrupted image (like a missing texture) instead of the arrow. It works after I do a manual /way though
17:32.51[dRaCo]got a point there, nev, sorry.
17:33.43nevcairieli even posted the last working revision
17:33.43*** join/#wowace sergio (i=sp@unaffiliated/sergio)
17:33.45nevcairiel:)
17:33.51nevcairielor just dont play till tomorrow :p
17:34.25[dRaCo]I'll just revert it
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17:35.46ZyntaXhi
17:36.10ZyntaXdoes anyone here speak german?
17:36.33venhaha, i do
17:36.43ruinnaanyone use WUU? i just tried an update (I use no-ext versions and stand alone libs) and all my libs went poof.. missing toc files.
17:37.08ZyntaXich bräuchte mal hilfe
17:38.07[dRaCo]I'd speak english, it's much more likely people will help you then
17:38.24netcurseus servers up?
17:38.57ulicnope
17:39.00kebinusannot yet
17:39.06netcurseoki
17:39.55ZyntaXi speak english to... but.. you know.. its more familar to me to speak german
17:40.46ZyntaXi just want to get this damn prog to work
17:41.09Arrowmasterwhat prog?
17:41.16ZyntaXwowace
17:41.25PHL-Chuckheh
17:41.26Arrowmasterwowace is not a program
17:41.33Arrowmasterare you talking about wowaceupdater?
17:41.44ZyntaXi ve heard about it from a friend
17:41.49ZyntaXi think
17:42.11Arrowmasterhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
17:43.07ZyntaXyou can autoupdate your addons from there... i installed that thing like everyone addon too and in the wow updates screen he shows me "incompatible" :(
17:44.31CIA-2303nickenyfiken * r36407 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
17:44.32CIA-23FuBar_TrainerFu:
17:44.32CIA-23- Merging branch to trunk
17:44.32CIA-23- Many changes to data structure so your old data is now useless (too lazy and sucky to write a upgrader)
17:44.32CIA-23- Blame all problems on God.
17:45.15nevcairiel~logs
17:46.02purllogs is probably apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
17:46.03nevcairiel~log
17:46.23purlit has been said that log is as piece of wood, or a record, or the opposite of exponentiation
17:46.24Arrowmasterperl is slow
17:46.24PHL-Chuckso 15min till the servers go back online?
17:46.24PHL-Chuckor am I off an hour
17:46.24CyrezIn theory.
17:46.24a-stray-cat15 blizzard minutes
17:46.27CyrezYeah, 15 Blizzard minutes.
17:46.27Arrowmastermy server is down longer for upgrades =(
17:46.40PHL-Chucksadly, I and a ton of other people misread the part where they said motes were gonna drop more frequent.. but I think blizz ninja'd the patch notes
17:46.45a-stray-cati wish they made it so that when you clicked on one of teh games on the splash page it took you directly to that games site
17:46.53a-stray-catrather than the game's splash image ><
17:47.32PHL-Chuck\
17:47.36PHL-ChuckI hate farming motes.
17:47.47kebinusanI hate farming.
17:47.55Arrowmasterthey took away my mote of fire farming spot =(
17:48.00a-stray-cat:<
17:48.06a-stray-catthey took away many of my mining points
17:48.15a-stray-catand now i'll have to keep my pet out to mine!
17:48.18Arrowmasteryeah that too
17:48.20a-stray-catand actually kill stuff
17:48.26a-stray-catwell, not really :X
17:48.28Arrowmasterhunter or warlock?
17:48.29PHL-Chuckyeah, mobs will attack you for stealing their ore now? lol
17:48.32a-stray-cathuntard
17:48.37Arrowmastermeh you have it easy
17:48.44Arrowmasterdrop frost trap then mine
17:48.45a-stray-catjust freeze -> fd when done
17:48.46a-stray-catyarr
17:48.47Arrowmasterthen FD
17:48.50Arrowmasterthen fly away
17:48.54a-stray-catthe problem is multiple mobs :P
17:48.57abyssichateHow many hours left till the US servers are up again?
17:48.58a-stray-catthen i have to kill stuff
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17:49.11deltronabyssichate: 4 hours
17:49.12deltronor so
17:49.17abyssichateok, thanks
17:49.20PHL-Chuck?
17:49.33PHL-Chuckthats some interesting math
17:49.36NeoTronso any ace addon(s) I should get to do memory and cpu profiling
17:49.37Arrowmasteri remember how annoying aggroing the buzzards in HFP was when mining
17:49.38NeoTron?
17:49.41Arrowmastergoing to be even worse
17:49.59kebinusanUS server should be up in 10 minutes
17:50.08kebinusanthe majority of them anyway
17:50.24PHL-Chuck... I didn't make a primal might last night cause I thought the botton was gonna fall out on primals today lol
17:50.32PHL-ChuckI got pwned by the patch notes
17:50.48PHL-Chuckwho needs essences?? newbs leveling stuff?
17:51.04NeoTronI thought they only said mobs that drop motes will not drop essences?
17:51.05kenlyricPHL-Chuck: you got pwned by reading comprehension :)
17:51.05PHL-Chuck.. Fiery enchant is so .. last year
17:51.08Arrowmasteronly thing essences are good for is +15 agi
17:51.10NeoTronI assume they didn't nerf the mote drop rate further, but also that they didn't buff it
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17:51.23PHL-Chuckits stupid
17:51.34PHL-Chuckduring any primetime you can't touch an elemental
17:51.38kenlyricit's incredibly stupid... I figured it was  typo :)
17:51.40PHL-Chuckgotta log on 5am and do it
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17:51.49PHL-Chuckblizz demands we have no lives
17:52.01kenlyricor, just let someone else farm them :)
17:52.01NeoTronI spent a good 40 minutes on elemental plateau on primetime all by myself
17:52.01Kaydeethreemote rate got buffed insanely. working on the netherwing faction I wound up with something like 10-12 primals just from herbing on the ledge
17:52.03Arrowmasterthey nerfed mote of shadow drop rate
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17:52.05NeoTrongot 5 primal fires from it
17:52.15Kaydeethreeshadows don't drop from demons any more
17:52.22Arrowmasteryeah just void creatures
17:52.24CIA-2303seerah * r36408 10ClearFont2_FontPack/ (80 files in 19 dirs):
17:52.25CIA-23ClearFont2_FontPack: all font packs rolled into one
17:52.25CIA-23- initial commit
17:52.25Kaydeethreebut considering we've got a few stacks of primals by now anyway, I'm not worried
17:52.26kenlyricno, they nerfed where they drop from
17:52.29kenlyricnot the drop rate.
17:52.35PHL-Chuckyeah but everyone should have 40 primal shadows in their bank
17:52.37NeoTronbecause we LIKE to farm small, heavily camped areas for primals
17:52.39NeoTronobviously
17:52.46a-stray-cati do
17:52.49nevcairieli ran out of shadows
17:52.54nevcairielbecause i transmute them into water
17:52.55a-stray-cati will steal every mob ever.
17:52.57NeoTronI have 36
17:52.58PHL-Chuckah
17:53.00kebinusanyou know what would be better, lets make a type of herb that only drops inside instances
17:53.00kenlyricPHL-Chuck: lol, I sold that shit when it came into my bank.
17:53.00Arrowmasterneed to be more places with level 70+ mobs to farm for primals
17:53.06nevcairielbut i bought me some new ones in the AH before it gets expensive :P
17:53.14kenlyricprimal mana and air and water are the ones I need for my enchants.
17:53.18Kirkburn|afkGawd, I hope no-one complains at me for seerah's change to the ClearFont font packs ><
17:53.25Arrowmasterkebinusan: not true, i know where to get ancient lichen outside of instances
17:53.28NeoTronI was going to but the AH had already increased by 200-400% and was mostly sold out
17:53.36a-stray-catKirkburn|afk: eh?
17:53.37nevcairielherbing giants in zanga ? :P
17:53.40Arrowmasteryup
17:53.43kebinusanArrowmaster: if you mean the stupidly low rate herbing giants
17:53.44Antiarc|WorkHm. Did SVN authentications get reset semi-recently?
17:53.45nevcairielthats not really productive
17:53.46nevcairieltho
17:53.49Antiarc|WorkMy login info seems to be not-working.
17:53.50kebinusanyou are a masochist
17:53.54nevcairielrunning slavepens is easier, you can solo it
17:53.55Kirkburn|afka-stray-cat, look at the last commit "ClearFont2_FontPack: all font packs rolled into one"
17:54.08a-stray-catis lucidia grans demibold or whatever part of a font pack or base cf2?
17:54.16Kirkburn|afkBase I think
17:54.28a-stray-cathawt, then i will have no complaints for the wrong person :P
17:54.41Arrowmastermy herbilist feral druid friend was farming the spawning glade and got a ton of primal life a stack of lichen and like 100g+ from grays in a few hours
17:54.42nevcairieleveryone should use calibri v1
17:54.43nevcairielimgo
17:54.51a-stray-cati can't, my uiscale is too small
17:54.57kebinusanso, when 11:30 rolls around, how long are they going to extend the maint window for today... Im betting normal realms get pushed to the extended time and extended get pushed back 2 hours
17:54.57a-stray-cati cant read anything but that demibold font lol
17:55.10a-stray-catall the other fonts look fuzzy to me :<
17:55.11kebinusancalabri is fine for me
17:55.25nevcairielyou even have extended time for some realms already?
17:55.45CIA-2303funkydude * r36409 10BigWigs/SC/ (7 files):
17:55.45CIA-23BigWigs: SC: 2.1 patchnote fixes
17:55.45CIA-23Leotheras: changed whirlwind to 8 seconds
17:55.45CIA-23Hydross: added 500% mark
17:55.45kebinusanthey had extended for some realms last night
17:55.45CIA-23zone name changes for 2.1, won't work in 2.0
17:56.15PHL-Chuckso 2.1 brings the ability to see which addons are bloated and slow?
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17:56.30PHL-Chucklike myself in RL
17:57.08kebinusansome realms had 12 hour maint while the rest had 8
17:57.28nevcairielthe performance profiling should be used with care .. if you dont know why and how addons work, you shouldnt base your opinion on those numbers
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17:58.05kebinusannevcairiel: pish, like users are gonna do that, omg warmup numbers are sooo huge for xxx
17:58.09CIA-2303nickenyfiken * r36410 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (TrainerFuLocals-enUS.lua TrainerFu_FuBar.lua): FuBar_TrainerFu: Localization typo.
17:58.17yacoobomg, profiler? :)
17:58.24yacoobdebugger perhaps too?
17:58.30PHL-ChuckI just wanna know which addon has the biggest memory leak so I can come here and whine ... jk
17:58.40Kaydeethreeno debugger
17:58.46yacoob(incredible! Blizz, when do you expect to research on fire or wheel? :)
17:59.02CIA-2303antiarc * r36411 10/branches/SanityItemCache/: SanityItemCache: Making items immutable to the outside, lots of memory leak fixes. Drycode, and will break Sanity2/Bags as-is.
17:59.25CIA-2303seerah * r36412 10ClearFont2_FontPack/ (. ClearFont2_FontPack.toc):
17:59.25CIA-23ClearFont2_FontPack:
17:59.25CIA-23- set up externals
17:59.25CIA-23- changed toc to 20100
17:59.34kebinusanMy favorite patch note wasnt even listed, its the one where they made the gm ticketing function protected so third party addons couldnt use it
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17:59.35CIA-2303antiarc * r36413 10/branches/SanityItemCache/ (SanityItemCache.lua SanityItemCache.toc): SanityItemCache: Making items immutable to the outside, lots of memory leak fixes. Drycode, and will break Sanity2/Bags as-is.
17:59.56nevcairielfor spam reporting there are new functions tho
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18:00.30kebinusannevcairiel: eh, I didnt see anything about reporting, just a session ignore list since there is no ticketing or anything Id imagine they get routed to /dev/null
18:01.17nevcairieldunno
18:01.18kebinusanthe gold spam is way out of control I just hope the crap they did in 2.1 is enough to stop it
18:01.20rubiki just want a blizzard options checkbox for "[x] Ignore whispers from characters below [dropdown] level."
18:01.22nevcairielit claims to be a report feature
18:01.36kebinusanrubik: spammenot I think has that
18:01.37rubikhow hard is it for them to code THAT?
18:01.48rubikspamsentry had it too but never worked for me
18:01.53nevcairielthe problem is that the client does not know which level a char is
18:01.54rubiks/had/has
18:01.58nevcairielyou need to do a /who
18:02.05rubikyeah.. so go for it
18:02.09rubikdo a /who on every incoming whisper
18:02.15nevcairielwell, /who is spam protected
18:02.16CIA-2303seerah * r36414 10ClearFont2_FontPack_1/: Removed file/folder, merged all font packs together
18:02.21kenlyricnevcairiel: or interact with any of the seven mods I have which store player level :)
18:02.21nevcairielit wont work if you get alot of whispers
18:02.22Kaydeethreeyou can only run a /who every 6 seconds
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18:02.28rubikright
18:02.30Kaydeethreethat's why doing it is a stupid idea
18:02.33CIA-2303seerah * r36415 10ClearFont2_FontPack_2/: Removed file/folder, merged all font packs together
18:02.43kebinusanIf you arent a bot, /whisper me back with the passphrase platypus taco to be added to my whitelist
18:02.45kenlyricignore whispers from anyone whose level you don't know.
18:02.48CIA-2303seerah * r36416 10ClearFont2_FontPack_3/: Removed file/folder, merged all font packs together
18:02.50NeoTronare you saying that spamsentry report feature might be broke?
18:02.51rubikqueue the whispers and show them to me one every 6 seconds
18:02.53Kaydeethreethe filters spamsentry uses have caught everything
18:02.57nevcairielkebinusan: i would hate something like that, imho
18:02.59Kaydeethreeneo; it is broken. it can't send autopetitions
18:03.01kenlyricNeoTron: it is broke.
18:03.02CIA-2303seerah * r36417 10ClearFont2_FontPack_4/: Removed file/folder, merged all font packs together
18:03.12Kaydeethreethere's a new way to do it, but the mod hasn't been updated to take advantage of it yet
18:03.18kenlyrici imagine that's directly what they were trying to break.
18:03.25Arrowmasterit was
18:03.28NeoTronbut blocking still works
18:03.31NeoTronI presume
18:03.34Arrowmasterthey got way too many tickets
18:03.38NeoTrongiven that it might no longer be needed
18:03.54kenlyricI punch any user on our network who sets up automatic spam reporting.
18:03.55Kaydeethreeslouken actually responded "Yes, the GM queue is inundated with SpamSentry petitions."
18:04.00NeoTronArrowmaster: that makes no sense, they implemented a feature to report, well, anyone you want now
18:04.00Arrowmasterpeople should have just stoped reporting when it was annouced that they were making it not possible
18:04.15kebinusanFrankly I dont think they got enough tickets, I dont approve of blocking the user reported abuse because you dont want to deal with the problem in a more direct fashion
18:04.20ArrowmasterNeoTron: yes but the new feature is different from normal gm tickets
18:04.21TecnoBrat~wau
18:04.32purli guess wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.
18:04.32nevcairielpeople are not that smart
18:04.40NeoTronis that new feature pluggable for spamsentry ?
18:04.41NeoTronfranky
18:04.49NeoTronI don't really care, not like the reporting is effective
18:04.53Kaydeethreedunno. I haven't looked through the code
18:04.56NeoTronas long as I don't see the spam, why do I caer right?
18:04.57Arrowmastershould be
18:05.01kenlyricsomebody sent me 37 spam reports this morning, like I cared about all the fake addresses the spam came from.
18:05.04Kaydeethreewell considering the new reporting is for an account-wide ignore
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18:05.18rubikbottom line is.. blizz didn't care about the gold spam problem or they could have done MANY things to eliminate 90% of it or whatever
18:05.25rubikwith very simple code checks on their end
18:05.27Kaydeethreeyou sure?
18:05.31Kaydeethreetry typing "peons4hire" in game
18:05.48kebinusanKaydeethree: that doesnt stop you from sending it
18:05.48Kaydeethreethey can't make api changes without a client-side patch, which we now have.
18:05.49nevcairielno one knows how well their new whisper spam throttling owrks
18:05.54kebinusanjust receiving it if you have the spam filter enabled
18:06.07sbuis it possible to change party members with macros?
18:06.10kenlyricright, spam is easy to fight.
18:06.13kebinusanand it blocked things it shouldnt have like mmo-champion.com
18:06.16Arrowmasterits going to be funny when somebody posts saying the new reporting didnt work for them and it turns out somebody in their guild or friends list got keylogged and the spam came from their account, since you cant report accounts on your friends list or guild
18:06.17kenlyricthat's why you don't get any in email....
18:06.25rubikyou can't be serious
18:06.26Kirkburn|afkBurn :)
18:06.27CIA-2303cryect * r36418 10Protractor/Protractor.lua: Protractor - Autoenables script profiling before I have people complain about it not working. Moves some on startup prints to :OnEnable
18:06.29kebinusankenlyric: yeah, spam in a game you have to pay to play is pretty damn easy tos top
18:06.32kenlyricor any phishing in AIM
18:06.40NeoTronit's SO simple to fix though
18:06.49rubikto compare in-game WoW spam to RL email spam is rather silly IMO
18:06.57Kirkburn|afkHow is it different?
18:06.59NeoTronI mean from their pov, a server side patch perhaps but still
18:07.00kebinusan1) setup a trial account server, all trial accounts go there, if they upgrade they get a free transfer
18:07.09Arrowmasterblizzard does have anti spam builtin, the problem is that its built in, when you try to send something and it gets blocked you can easyly tell and just change what you send
18:07.10Kaydeethreetrial accounts ARE NOT CAUSING THE SPAM
18:07.11kebinusan2) block outgoing whispers from trial accounts
18:07.24rubikKaydeethree: proof?
18:07.31Cryect<Kaydeethree> trial accounts ARE NOT CAUSING THE SPAM
18:07.31Cryectyes they are
18:07.31PHL-Chuckspam wouldnt be as much of a problem if they went after the people who sold the gold and took their cache of gold away from them
18:07.31Kaeltensomeone have a link to cia's site?
18:07.31kenlyriceveryone has what they consider a wonderful solution in-game spam. And you can always find someone who is against that plan.
18:07.33Kaydeethreetrial accounts can send ~5 whispers before they get filtered
18:07.34NeoTronKaydeethree: actually they are, according to EU CM's at least
18:07.41CryectOr so says a friend of mine at Blizzard
18:07.46Antiarc|WorkCryect: Trial accounts can't send whispers...
18:07.49Arrowmastertrial accounts already had filtering
18:07.50kebinusanKaelten: http://cia.vc/stats/project/Ace?s_message=1
18:07.51nevcairielKaelten: http://cia.vc/stats/project/Ace
18:07.52CryectAntiarc|Work: there is a bug
18:07.55renchapKaelten: http://cia.vc ?
18:07.56Funkeh`trial accounts can send whispers
18:07.57CryectAntiarc|Work: that allowed them to
18:07.57XuerianTrial accounts could always whisper
18:07.59nevcairielmeh kebinusan beat me to it
18:08.00Funkeh`they can't send mail
18:08.00Arrowmasterspam is coming from keylogged accounts
18:08.00XuerianThey cannot now
18:08.00Bibi`ouF[20:05:51] <kebinusan> and it blocked things it shouldnt have like mmo-champion.com
18:08.03Bibi`ouFYeah, it makes me sad.
18:08.03XuerianThey can't mail
18:08.05Xueriancan't trade
18:08.10Funkeh`they CAN whisper
18:08.11Xueriancan't ah
18:08.26Xuerianyes, whispering to people who have them on their friends list, or whispered them first
18:08.29NeoTronthey changed it so NOW they can't yes
18:08.34Funkeh`in 2.1 ?
18:08.35NeoTronbut before they could, and did, cause a lot of the spam
18:08.42NeoTron2.1 fixes that issue entirely
18:08.45Cryectyeah
18:08.47Funkeh`ah
18:08.48Funkeh`nice
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18:09.00XuerianIn 2.1, they cannot send un-solicited *anything*, really, except /say
18:09.06Cryectthat was one of the major reasons for the 2.1 delay supposedly
18:09.07Arrowmasterafaik trial accounts had outgoing whisper limits already in 2.0
18:09.17Cryectthough of course plenty of other issues :-p
18:09.25deltronshaman are still nerfed!
18:09.29XuerianWell, the proof is in the pudding, and the pudding is in the fridge
18:09.31NeoTronArrowmaster: from what blue said in that post, they were the source of a majority of the niflux of gold spam
18:09.35XuerianWe'll see when we log on today :)
18:09.37NeoTronwe'll see I guess
18:09.48NeoTronor rather I'll not see since I use spam sentry >:-)
18:10.13XuerianGold spam or not, I think CC-less trials were a good move for them
18:10.24XuerianAnd the anti-spam measures have made them much better.
18:11.14PHL-Chuckcool, launcher now just launches the game.
18:11.25kebinusanXuerian: I just feel they should have had the foresight to put antispam measures in first
18:11.33nevcairielif you untic the "use launcher" box, yeah
18:11.35kebinusanit was a big annoyance to their paying customer bace
18:11.36Arrowmastercool maybe now ill change my shortcut back to the launcher
18:11.37kebinusan*base
18:11.48Xueriankebinusan: No doubt, but what's done is done now
18:11.55Arrowmasterkebinusan: they did have anti spam stuff before 2.1
18:12.08XuerianAnti-volume spam
18:12.41kebinusanArrowmaster: Clearly not up to any reasonable standard or I wouldnt be swamped with so many people to report over the course of a session
18:12.57Arrowmastertheyre anti spam had a major flaw
18:12.57Xuerian*Anti Volume-spam. Place a few bots at each starting area and you have enough to catch a good number of people on logon without breaking flow limits
18:12.57Arrowmasterit was builtin
18:12.57kenlyricwhat's the point of the launcher if you don't see the launch screen?
18:13.03kenlyricwhy not just start the wow.exe directly?
18:13.09PHL-Chuckchecks for hacks! lol
18:13.12PHL-Chuckseriously
18:13.12nevcairielbecause the launcher will download patches now
18:13.13kebinusankenlyric: background downloader
18:13.25kenlyrickebinusan: oh, so it will still do that?
18:13.30kenlyricneat.
18:13.44kenlyricthat's the only reason I used launcher. Fuck if I care that the new trading card pack is coming out.
18:13.52PHL-Chucklol
18:14.19PHL-Chuckactually surprised they are doing away with it considering its free advertising for them
18:14.27Kirkburn|afkI saw that someone had an in-game convo with a gold-seller - he said they used full and trial accounts to send spam.
18:14.34kenlyricPHL-Chuck: too many people skip it, I guess.
18:14.42Kirkburn|afk(if that's not proof, I don't know what is)
18:15.02hyperChipmunkthe flaw with their anti-spam was that it gave feedback to the sender
18:15.14Arrowmasteryup
18:15.20kenlyricthis way, they get the hack checking and the background downloading without giving a people an annoyance reason to skip it.
18:15.39Arrowmasterjust set your own name as the first target to spam and you could see if the spam got blocked or not then change your message
18:15.45hyperChipmunkif they'd make it look like the message was sent, but stopped it from being delivered, it would be far more effctive
18:16.10Arrowmasteror made it so messages to yourself never got filtered
18:16.10hyperChipmunkbut they give you a nice message saying your spam was blocked, please reword it so it will go through our filters
18:16.24Arrowmasterthey do?
18:16.27Arrowmasterive never seen it
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18:16.55hyperChipmunkwell, not worded exactly like that, but you get the point
18:17.06Arrowmasteri guess something is hiding those messages for me
18:17.25Arrowmasterive seen stuff i try to say never show up and know that it got blocked but never got a system message
18:18.17hyperChipmunkyou have to have your own spamfilter off
18:18.41kebinusanrealms are coming up
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18:19.15nevcairielamazing
18:19.21nevcairielnot even much overdue, are they?
18:20.36GnarfozBibi`ouF: great job on the header image for the 2.1 post ;D
18:20.46Bibi`ouFforgot to stroke it :/
18:20.56Bibi`ouFand didn't save the psd, of course.
18:20.57Gnarfoznevermind, the idea is great :D
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18:21.09Bibi`ouF^^
18:21.13Arrowmasterwtf blizz cant count
18:21.56Arrowmasteroh wait nvm
18:22.13Stephmws/oh wait nvm//g
18:22.15Arrowmasternews thingy says 4 additional hours for some realms but they started an hour earlyer
18:22.45Bibi`ouFwtf Arrowmaster can't read
18:23.11Arrowmasternope not right now
18:24.46CIA-2303phyber * r36419 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
18:24.46CIA-23XPBarNone:
18:24.46CIA-23- Create the XP bar in :OnEnable() instead of :OnInitialize(). This fixes the
18:24.46CIA-23issue where XPBarNone wouldn't be able to use a texture from another addon using
18:24.46CIA-23SharedMediaLib, if the other addon hadn't loaded properly yet. Or something
18:24.46CIA-23along those lines.
18:25.51kebinusan`simpleminimap is broke
18:26.16nevcairielsqueenix?
18:26.33CIA-2303phyber * r36420 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
18:26.33CIA-23XPBarNone:
18:26.33CIA-23- Comment out :SetOrientation() function.
18:26.39kebinusandunno
18:27.34Kaeltenhey whats that linux command for seeing the human readable size of a file?
18:27.46dacoffeydu -hs
18:27.59yacoobWrong window or file name :P
18:28.30nevcairielyou could also do ls -h
18:28.32tsigook anyone know what channel 3 is by default and why I can't leave it? happened on PTR too
18:28.34nevcairielfor single files
18:28.37phyberKaelten: ls -sh filename
18:29.00nevcairiells -lsh
18:29.01nevcairielimho
18:29.03Kaeltenok so now compression is enabled on the latest.xml files and it dropped the size from 500+k to 68k
18:29.14ckknightnice
18:29.29nevcairielheh
18:29.37Kaeltenand its caching so it only zips it once every 20 mins
18:29.43krkais ls -lsh the same as du -hs?
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18:29.45phyber-lsh so you can be totally sure about the filesize after you read it twice? :p
18:29.50krkadoes ls really recurse?
18:29.57nevcairielphyber: yes! :)
18:30.07nevcairielkrka: file size .. not directory size :)
18:30.20krkaright
18:30.52nevcairieland i dont think ls recurses
18:30.56yacoobit doesn't
18:31.04yacoobthat's what du is for :)
18:31.31Arrowmastertsigo: its LFG
18:31.51phyber'ls -Rsh' and add it all up!
18:31.57nevcairiellol
18:32.06yacoobfor great just^Wcalculation!
18:32.27CIA-2303cryect * r36421 10Protractor/Protractor.lua: Protractor - Few fixes and alerts involving setting the CVar
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18:33.12tsigoArrowmaster: ah, thanks
18:33.18Ominoushmm, shall i  tag and delete my old FuBar_RogueTimerFu etc as they use old api or not?
18:34.46stavmaris there a reason i cannot drag the eaves drop frame with left click?
18:35.05yacoobHow are you gentlemen?
18:35.28a-stray-catgentlemen? where?
18:35.35kebinusanhmm load out of date addons might have been a good idea before saying that
18:35.38[dRaCo]oh no! its you!
18:36.26kebinusan<PROTECTED>
18:36.28CIA-2303darravis * r36422 10SmartyCat/ (SmartyCat.lua SmartyCat.toc):
18:36.29CIA-23SmartyCat:
18:36.29CIA-23-Updated TOC
18:36.29CIA-23-Removed Natures Grasp code
18:37.36deltronall your base are belong to us
18:37.49CIA-2303darravis * r36423 10SmartyCatManaBar/ (5 files):
18:37.49CIA-23SmartyCatManaBar:
18:37.49CIA-23-Updated TOC
18:37.50CIA-23-Added SharedMediaLib
18:38.27HjalteIs there a script command to cancel a buff?
18:38.46a-stray-catis there a way to change your game's locale?
18:39.27hasteif you play with a EU client, you can download the language packs, which enables you to change locale
18:39.45Kaeltenaverage (5s sliding average)
18:39.45KaeltenRequests139 req/s
18:39.46KaeltenTraffic7.44 Mbyte/s
18:39.48Kaeltendamn
18:40.02hasteand it's only the first day :D
18:40.16Kaeltenjust spiked at 66mbits/s
18:40.27Kaeltenwow
18:40.50CIA-2303phyber * r36424 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
18:40.50CIA-23XPBarNone:
18:40.50CIA-23- Change how the Dewdrop menus are opened. Should stop the menus from moving when they refresh, as the occasionally did.
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18:42.54nevcairielhmm
18:42.57GnarfozKaelten: don't wanna think about the weekend ;<
18:42.58nevcairielmy ratingbuster stopped working
18:43.08CIA-2303pb_ee1 * r36425 10ChatLog/ (6 files):
18:43.08CIA-23ChatLog:
18:43.08CIA-23- Changed a bit the hierarchy of the options.
18:43.08CIA-23- You should now be able to change dynamicaly the maximum size of the log (from 1 line to 5000).
18:43.08CIA-23- Please note that a maxsize value above 250 (roughly) will make ChatLog use a high amount of memory.
18:43.12Oridananyone know if i can put a custom control into waterfall ? like say, simplehtml
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18:44.02Kaeltenweekend I'm worried about tommorow
18:44.04Kaeltenlol
18:44.29Oridani want to put a multiline note into the waterfall child pane, i'm guessing i could use simplehtml for that, but i dont know how to interact with the frame directly
18:45.09Oridanany clues anyone ?
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18:45.26CIA-2303cryect * r36426 10Protractor/Protractor.lua: Protractor - One more bug fix involving scriptProfile cvar >_>
18:46.10Kaeltenserver load isa climbing up to 3-5
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18:46.28Oridanhm i guess everyone is busy with the patch release stuff ^^
18:46.29XuerianOridan: Custom controls ontop of AceOptions generally only lead to trouble
18:46.43Oridanahh hrm
18:46.50XuerianIsn't to say it doesn't work
18:46.50GnarfozI just hope my addons don't fall apart now, I updated, but EU still has 2.0
18:47.01XuerianBut if you have a good idea, you're better off making a patch for whatever it is and submitting it for standard
18:48.05SarozProtractor... such a perverse name
18:48.08OridanXuerian: i'm writing a quest log using waterfall, it looks great, and would work nicely, if i could put some multiline stuff into waterfall, but the nearest thing i can use is a 'label' which is a 1liner fixed height
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18:48.28XuerianSaroz: O.o
18:48.40Sarozor maybe it's just me :p
18:48.50Punkie`I think so
18:48.53XuerianI'm usually ultra-gutter...
18:48.54XuerianBut I don't get it
18:48.58Saint-Nat least its not Proctologist
18:49.06Oridancurrently i've got the zones and quests all set up, and it draws the first paragraph in a label, but of course, no point in putting in all the extra features if i cant get that bit to work
18:49.17XuerianOridan: Ah
18:49.21XuerianOridan: Not much of a idea then
18:49.22CryectI don't know what saroz does with protractors
18:49.28CIA-2303pb_ee1 * r36427 10ChatLog/ChatLog.lua: ChatLog: Changing valid range of max log to [50-1000].
18:49.31Saint-Nfor those who are anal about statistics
18:49.32XuerianDo you want to know?
18:49.35Saint-N;)
18:49.40Xueriano.o
18:49.44Xuerianow.
18:50.30Saint-Nbesides its Pro Tractor
18:50.38Saint-Ncyrect is a farmer at heart
18:50.41Saint-N;)
18:50.47Xuerianhaha.
18:51.03CIA-2303antiarc 07SplitCache * r36428 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua SanityEvents.lua): Sanity2: Lots-o-updates to reduce excess table creation, change to item stack collapsing. Likely broken, recommend not using till I have a chance to test.
18:51.05Kaelten90th for the day is up to around 29 or  so
18:51.06Kalman|There was a guy on my realm named Iamfarmer.
18:51.11Kalman|He got so much crap for it.
18:51.13Kalman|Dude grew wheat.
18:51.27OridanXuerian: oh, forgot to say, i'm not doing it with AceOptions, just 'tree' and 'children' tables
18:51.38Saint-Ndid he laugh and say "yeah well i can sit and play this all day while the govt' subsidizes my income?"
18:51.40XuerianOridan: Oh. Well that's a little different :p
18:51.54Oridanhehe
18:52.11Saint-Nguy in our guild had the name scrotemhoof
18:52.22Saint-Ngm forced him to change his nick in the middle of a nightbane fight
18:52.27Saint-Ncomplete with DC and all
18:52.32Saint-Nhe's our druid tank
18:52.33CIA-2303ominous * r36429 10/tags/FuBar_RogueTimerFu/: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: taging
18:52.44Xuerian0_o
18:52.45XuerianGeez.
18:52.59Saint-Nthe entire guild filed petitions
18:53.02Loki|muhwhats so bad about scrotemhoof?
18:53.05OridanXuerian: its cos i'm limited to adding controls thru waterfall:AddControl - and that function will only act on predefined types, if i could access the frame i could prolly construct it manually
18:53.05Saint-Ncomplete with emails to blizzard ;P
18:53.15Saint-Nall about the one gm who was a fucking moron
18:53.18CIA-2303cryect * r36430 10Mode7/Mode7-1.0/Mode7-1.0.lua: Mode7 - Won't actually do :SetCoords now if the Mode7 texture is not visible. Just in case your program is sloppy and calls it anyways (not saying my test programs were sloppy of course!)
18:53.21CIA-2303ominous * r36431 10/tags/FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/: FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: taging
18:53.33XuerianOridan: Why not /dump GetMouseFocus() and see how it's built, or better yet, write a patch and include your control? ;)
18:53.34OridanXuerian: but thats not something i've done before, just need to know how to reference the frame then i can start playing
18:53.45CryectSaint-N: Rats you are on to my plans to my the Pro Tractor farming game
18:54.03Kaeltenmode 7?
18:54.03Saint-NLoki|muh: i dunno, his name on the old server was totemhoof, but we kept calling him scrotemhoof so that whenhe transfered he accidently typed that
18:54.03CryectMode7 is a library for Mode 7 style textures
18:54.06Gnarfozsnes ftw
18:54.21Saint-Ncyrect: you need to make that game ;P
18:54.29Saint-Nmake a farming game!
18:54.35Saint-Ncomplete with seasons and crop rotation
18:54.37XuerianProTractor 3d
18:54.38Kalman|SimFarm!
18:54.40Saint-Nfor the whole guild to play
18:54.42Cryecthttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9947/comparisonur3.jpg or  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRz2HlUrufw  for comparison
18:54.50CryectI mean for examples of it in use
18:54.57CIA-2303ominous * r36432 10/tags/FuBar_DruidTimerFu/: FuBar_DruidTimerFu: taging
18:55.16GnarfozI want addons that use some of your latest awesome examples, Cryect :D
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18:55.38Saint-NXuerian: ProTractor Ultra Gold Multiplayer Edition!
18:55.44Saint-NP.U.G.M.E
18:55.46Saint-N;)
18:55.51Xuerianhahaha
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18:56.43kebinusanthe class color for shaman get changed to dark blue or did prat just do that
18:56.51Arrowmasterit got changed
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18:57.18Saint-Nand the addon pack Seasons Ultra Combine: Internal Terrain
18:57.22Arrowmastertoo dark now imho but i think bliz ran out of common colors
18:57.45Kirkburn|afkHaven't they heard of the rainbow?
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18:58.00Saint-NKirkburn|afk: of course they have they all march with pride each year ;P
18:58.12Kirkburn|afk:D
18:58.14Saint-Nor at least most of the gm's do ;P
18:58.37Arrowmasterhmm actually i dont think any of the class colors are close to purple
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18:58.54hyperChipmunklock
18:58.55Saint-Nthats because purple is reserved
18:58.59Saint-Nfor locks
18:59.01Arrowmasterer wait yah
18:59.04Arrowmastersilly me
18:59.13Cryecthaha
18:59.14eXploit-CS|Jbob`hey anyone know the solution to the error window saying something like update aceevent cause i did it and it doesnt fix it
18:59.17Arrowmasterred?
18:59.30Kirkburn|afkReserved for errors, I guess
18:59.40Saint-Npriests should get black and white
18:59.45Saint-Ndepending on spec ;)
18:59.55a-stray-catanyone know why /cast [target=Grounding Totem] Arcane Shot(Rank 1) gives an error (Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:872: bad argument #1 to 'strmatch' (string expected, got nil):) every OnUpdate?
18:59.57Saint-Nthen it would be easy to tell in chat ;P
19:01.40Saint-N"Grounding Totem" ?
19:01.40Arrowmastera-stray-cat: you can only use names when it will match a party member
19:01.40NeoTronanyone know how apexis shards drop ?
19:01.40ArrowmasterNeoTron: kill shit in north or west blades edge
19:01.41NeoTronthat's what I figured
19:01.41Torqis there a working link for the new ace updater? tried all the north american mirrors
19:01.41Arrowmasteri recommend the ethereals
19:01.42NeoTronfigure getting a flask a week should be easy as pie
19:01.42stavmardid they block autobar?
19:01.42evlWho has patch=!
19:01.54evlYou US commies have it?
19:01.56a-stray-catus? commies?
19:01.59evlBY THE MOTHERLAND!
19:02.05Torqisnt that a contradiction in terms? :P
19:02.09ArrowmasterNeoTron: heh seriously go kill ethereals, youll get a drop that will make you want to farm more than a flask a week i bet
19:02.19Torqgod knows theyre trying to make us communist but were not yet :P
19:02.35NeoTronArrowmaster: what, tehy drop something good for farming purposes?
19:02.38a-stray-catArrowmaster: so there's no way to stop it?
19:02.46a-stray-catother than changing the macro?
19:03.02a-stray-cati have another one for /cast [target=Chewie] Misdirect that i use for raiding
19:03.08a-stray-catand its giving me the same
19:03.24a-stray-cati'd hate to have to comment it out for when im not using it :/
19:03.26NeoTronI didn't know you could use [target=Name] like that
19:03.27stavmarmy macro is one button to summon all lock pets and i am getting the block message
19:03.58a-stray-catstavmar: sounds like a barmod issue?
19:04.02ArrowmasterNeoTron: on ptr i got a few of these items from them that when combined with 10 shards gave a consumable that healed for 2000 when used, stacked up to 20 and shared cooldown with healthstone, aka new tubers
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19:06.14NeoTronah nice
19:06.32NeoTronof course with 3 ranks of healthstones in raids... might not be too useful
19:07.01Gnarfozsylvanaar: what does 'UpgradeSettings' in WAU do? can't find anything regarding that option :)
19:07.09Kaeltenso when does europe's servers go down?
19:07.16GnarfozKaelten: in about 6 hours
19:07.24Kaeltenfun stuff
19:07.30Kaeltenso about the time I leave work the servers will die?
19:07.31Kaeltengotcha
19:07.33Gnarfozheh
19:07.56Gnarfozactually, I should check on that, not sure if Paris is under DST
19:08.14a-stray-catckknight: ping
19:08.25hasteParis is CET, which is GMT+2 atm
19:08.30ckknighta-stray-cat: pong
19:08.32Gnarfoz(you wouldn't have any clue about that 'UpgradeSettings' option in WAU, Kaelten? :))
19:08.40a-stray-cateverytime i update pitbull, my portraits turn off
19:08.46Gnarfozhaste: paris is in my own timezone? oO
19:08.55a-stray-catand i have to re-enable them, is that normal?
19:08.57Gnarfoz(which is cet)
19:09.03Kaeltennope
19:09.03Kaeltenlol
19:09.11CIA-2303ominous * r36434 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: Added a static popup with new addon name, this will be deleted in a few weaks
19:09.16GnarfozI always thought they were in GMT
19:09.27CIA-2303ominous * r36435 10FuBar_DruidTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_DruidTimerFu: Added a static popup with new addon name, this will be deleted in a few weaks
19:09.38hasteGnarfoz: you know.. CET is currently the same as GMT+2, because of summertime
19:09.47CIA-2303ominous * r36436 10FuBar_PaladinTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_PaladinTimerFu: Added a static popup with new addon name, this will be deleted in a few weaks
19:09.54GnarfozI know, because I live in Germany  and that is the timezone I am in :)
19:10.01CIA-2303ominous * r36437 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: Added a static popup with new addon name, this will be deleted in a few weaks
19:10.20GnarfozI was just mistakenly (or sleepily, you pick ;p) assuming Paris to be one timezone further to 'the left' of me :D
19:10.41hasteI guess I should say CEST, and not CET
19:11.22hastebut yes, the EU servers are taken down in 6 hours
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19:13.19Punkie`Is anyone willing to give me a little bit of help ? :)
19:13.20jenzwhats the addone that autoupdates all your ace addons?
19:13.20Punkie`WinAceUpdater I think
19:13.26ckknightWowAceUpdater
19:13.27Punkie`ah ok :)
19:13.54hasteIt's an application, not an add-on tho' :p
19:14.12Punkie`http://ace.pastey.net/38090 Can someone tell me why it isnt giving me the right spell slot :<
19:14.17a-stray-catit seems the portrait option for my pitbull has dissapeared
19:14.18stavmaris anyone not having their cartographer popup
19:14.36a-stray-cator my eyes are lying to me, or it was moved
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19:16.33Sarozanyone know a site with patch mirrors?
19:16.41Xueriana.wirebrain.de/wow
19:16.55Punkie`wowwiki has loads but www.patchitbaby.com is usually good for me
19:16.56Sarozty
19:17.58Torqmeh some problem with the updater..autobar and ag unit frames and fubar no workie =/
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19:18.44Punkie`because they have been updated to the latest toc probably?
19:18.58rronkivcartog doesnt work!!!!!!!!!!
19:19.00Ominousjust click LoadOutOfDate addons
19:19.11rronkivno like.. it doesnt work
19:19.19XuerianMaaan. Of course my server is in the only 16.1% down :P
19:19.21rronkivdoesnt display the map, u hear it open and all, just no worky
19:19.38Arrowmaster'doesnt work' isnt much help, provide actual error messages
19:19.42Punkie`Xuerian: help me! :)
19:19.48CIA-2303Tristan * r36438 10ShammySpy/ (Data.lua Init.lua Localization.lua ShammySpy.lua):
19:19.48CIA-23ShammySpy:
19:19.48CIA-23- Fixed some buggs and is now keeping track of slain totems :)
19:19.49XuerianPunkie`: With?
19:19.55Torqnah im already loading out of date addons
19:19.59Punkie`the above :( its broken :(
19:20.21Josh_Borkeoh noes!  i have to click load out of date
19:20.22Punkie`Torq are you from EU?
19:20.37rronkivno error
19:20.40rronkivit just doesnt display
19:20.41Sarozuhm
19:20.47Sarozhow do I set the width of my fubar panel
19:20.53Punkie`drag the sides
19:20.55Punkie`with the sword icon
19:20.56Sarozclever
19:21.00kergothAny rogues around? Curious on the consensus on imp ks
19:21.06Punkie`its nice for pvp
19:21.24Punkie`cold blood + imp ks + mutilate is pretty sweet
19:21.30Sarozty Punkie`
19:21.36Punkie`nps :)
19:21.44Arrowmasterthey ever fix the cold blood mutilate bug?
19:21.50Punkie`next patch
19:22.11kergothnext? it was in the notes for 2.1 last time i looked.. did they remove it?
19:22.15Kalman|Still in the notes.
19:22.19CIA-2303cryect * r36439 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua:
19:22.19CIA-23GraphLib - Allows data to be passed to :AddDataSeries as a [2][n] array now in
19:22.19CIA-23addition of [n][2] though on ambiguity of an array that is [2][2] falls back to
19:22.19CIA-23assuming [n][2]. Instead to ensure this doesn't happen pass a third option of
19:22.19CIA-23true :AddDataSeries(points,color,[n2=false])
19:22.22Punkie`next as in
19:22.43Punkie`the patch hasnt came for me yet :P
19:22.58kergothPunkie`, for pve, not worth it to remote one point from imp poisons and 2 from quick recovery to take imp ks, right?
19:22.58CIA-2303cryect * r36440 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Changes done in how time based data is stored for more efficient memory usage
19:22.59kergothah
19:23.15Punkie`quick recovery is awesome
19:23.35Punkie`and in raids imp KS isn't really worthwhile as its only really effective on trash or so
19:23.48kergothokay, thats what i figured
19:23.51kergoththanks :)
19:23.52Antiarc|WorkQuick recovery is awesome.
19:23.55Punkie`nps :)
19:24.00Punkie`but someone help me :(
19:24.02Antiarc|WorkI'm currently mut, but I'm speccing back to combat tonight >_>
19:24.08Antiarc|WorkGo go new offhand arena fist.
19:24.15kergothnice
19:24.38kergothmy guild doesnt raid much yet, and i dont like pvp.. so i'm stuck with a 66 dps offhand dagger from a quest, and a guile of khorazi
19:24.40stavmardoes anyone remember where teh cooking recipies are the new ones for alliance?
19:24.45kergothneed to grind out a riftmaker
19:24.52Aenslaedoh god, pitbull completely reset :/
19:24.59kergotheep
19:25.02Antiarc|WorkHonestly, just find yourself a 5v5 arena team and play 10 matches/week
19:25.08Antiarc|WorkYou'll get the offhand in 2 weeks
19:25.28hyperChipmunkwhat's up with these hooks?
19:25.30XuerianPunkie`: Try http://ace.pastey.net/38096 ?
19:25.35kergothhmm\
19:25.38Antiarc|WorkIt's really easy, and you won't get anything near its DPS without raiding.
19:25.49Antiarc|WorkYou could probably lose every match and still get it in 3 weeks
19:26.20XuerianPunkie`: You'd probably want to optimize your spellbook scanner just a little bit, confine it to one tab (figure out which is restro) and cache the result
19:26.38Chompers300 a week for 10 losses
19:26.40Chompersnot bad
19:26.43ckknightokay, I miss SmartBuff
19:26.45hyperChipmunkis AceHook broked?
19:26.48ckknightanyone know of a replacement?
19:26.50ckknighthyperChipmunk: nope.
19:26.57Arrowmastermy friends 13/41/7 with malchazzen and glad shiv, always our top rogue dps in raids and always one of the top dps
19:27.01Punkie`Xuerian: Yes I would do that :) but it still doesn't work 'GetSpellCooldown(): Invalid spell slot'
19:27.04hyperChipmunkreturn self.hooks[frame].OnClick(a1)
19:27.12Punkie`It's only really a thing I'm trying out :)
19:27.23hyperChipmunk[2007/05/22 15:26:01-3187-x2]: BulkMail2\BulkMail.lua:382: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
19:27.35kergothAntiarc|Work, thanks for the advice, guess i'll try that :)
19:27.35Gnarfozstavmar: Toshley's Station
19:27.36ckknighthyperChipmunk: pastey
19:27.37Antiarc|WorkExcepting poison-immune mobs, Mutilate holds exceptionally close to combat daggers in raid DPS, iddly enough.
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19:27.45Antiarc|Works/iddly/oddly/
19:27.48a-stray-catoh man, sometimes when you dismount you don't lose your momentum
19:27.53a-stray-cati just shot myself off a cliff
19:27.54ckknighthyperChipmunk: although you are doing it a bit wrong anyway
19:27.56binderof all the mods to be broken
19:27.58bindergmail :(
19:28.01ckknightself.hooks[frame].OnClick(frame, a1)
19:28.13Loki|muhis there a list of addons which where broke by the patch?
19:28.21Arrowmasterno
19:28.26Antiarc|WorkLoki|muh: Assume all of them unless you know otherwise :P
19:28.30stavmarGnarfoz: ty
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19:28.36binderI use like every ace mod and that's the only one that doesn't seem to be working for me :P
19:28.43bindernevermind
19:28.52bindercartographer just deleted all my characters and killed my parents
19:28.56binderdarnit
19:29.01Antiarc|WorkI'm a combat fists lover, though, and you really can't beat the arena fists for style.
19:29.29Antiarc|WorkNot quite the burst of daggers, but more versatility, and the AR+BF+Evasion blender for soloing things you wouldn't be able to otherwise.
19:30.05hyperChipmunkckknight: that was the diff
19:30.22hyperChipmunkstrange it never cropped up before
19:30.26XuerianPunkie`: Buh. That doesn't make sense. Is swiftmend spelled properly?
19:30.35hyperChipmunkand yea, i was wondering why i didn't pass frame as an arg =)
19:30.48Punkie`yes :)
19:31.01XuerianSee if this at least doesn't error http://ace.pastey.net/38100
19:32.05Punkie`It did not error Xuerian :)
19:32.21Gnarfozmaybe it's just a symptom of my server being chock full of absolute no-skillers, but I never figured out why Combat Daggers would be superior to Combat Swords
19:32.26Kaeltenhow do you get the version of linux a server is running ?
19:32.28Kaeltenany easy way?
19:32.45XuerianIt's a short console command, Kaelten, but I can't remember it for the life of me XD
19:32.46Sarozuname -a
19:32.51CIA-2303hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r36441 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail-enUS.lua BulkMail.lua CHANGELOG):
19:32.51CIA-23BulkMail2:
19:32.51CIA-23- fixed hooking errors
19:32.54Xuerianyeah that >.>
19:33.00XuerianPunkie`: Hmm o.0
19:33.16Punkie`http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=18562 <-- definately the right spelling
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19:33.36Kaeltenwhat about what distro it is?
19:33.36XuerianPunkie`: Try adding a few addon:Print()'s in there, checking the tab info/names of spells to make sure it's actually looking in the right places?
19:33.40GnarfozKaelten: no accurate way
19:33.45sergioKaelten: try cat /etc/version
19:33.51Gnarfozyeah, many put something in there
19:33.58Gnarfozif it's something obscure, have fun
19:34.04Punkie`will do :)
19:34.06Kyrinsometimes it's /etc/redhat-release
19:34.07Arrowmasterjust uname might give a clue too
19:34.22nevcairieldoesnt just uname generally report "Linux" ? :p
19:34.22Kyrinif it's redhat related
19:34.24Sarozcat /etc/fedora-release :p
19:34.29Kyrinthat too
19:34.36Gnarfoznevcairiel: it does
19:34.44Gnarfozuname -a doesn't, though
19:34.50Arrowmasteroh
19:34.51KyrinSaroz: though centos uses redhat-release as well
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19:35.08Jens<Punkie`> http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=18562 <-- definately the right spelling <-- definitely the right spelling
19:35.14Arrowmasteris uname -a the one that has the most info?
19:35.17Gnarfozyou just have to be using a distribution that tags it's kernel with it's name
19:35.21GnarfozArrowmaster: think so
19:35.26Arrowmastermy nix box is dead currently
19:36.12Gnarfozyes, -a is = --all
19:36.12KyrinLinux kemper.phe4r.com 2.6.9-42.0.8.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Jan 30 12:33:47 EST 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
19:36.12Sarozcat /etc/grub.conf
19:36.12Xuerianhaha. Sneaky
19:36.12KyrinIf it look slike that, then that wouldn't tell you anything though
19:36.13Gnarfozindeed
19:36.15ArrowmasterKyrin: custom kernal compile?
19:36.21Gnarfozno, kernel :>
19:36.29KyrinArrowmaster: nope
19:36.38KyrinLinux Carlotta 2.2.19 #6 SMP Mon Oct 29 15:16:14 MST 2001 i686 unknown
19:36.41Kyrinthat one is though
19:36.49Kyrinbit old I might add :P
19:36.59deltronHost 'ghidora', running Linux 2.6.20-14-386 - Cpu0: Celeron 797 MHz; Up: 27d+13:56; Users: 7; Load: 0.00; Free: [Mem: 29/249 Mio] [Swap: 1392/1459 Mio] [/: 19161/36846 Mio]; Vpenis: 28.1 cm;
19:37.03Gnarfozwhat's the # stand for, anyway?
19:37.07Gnarfozthe one right after the version
19:37.16Saroz<PROTECTED>
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19:37.39Arrowmastersaroz is using fedora
19:37.48KyrinI think it might be the -j version
19:37.51Kyrinerr, not version
19:37.57Kyrinbut switch
19:37.59Gnarfozhm
19:38.00deltronpatch level?
19:38.00Sarozheh, well my 300 servers are :p
19:38.36deltronwe have a ton of different boxes at work here
19:38.45Sarozwe have old redhat 7.2 boxes :|
19:38.49Sarozmakes me want to cry
19:38.54deltronheh
19:39.03deltronwe just got rid of our solaris 2.1 boxes
19:39.13Sarozrunning some shit 2.4 kernel
19:39.14Saroz:|
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19:39.30sergiowhy can't I page shift+1 in bartender3
19:39.43[dRaCo]page shifting disabled?
19:40.11sergioit's a fresh config and it's enabled
19:40.23Kyrinquick question, since I kinda got distracted by linus talk when I joined :P
19:40.40KyrinWho would I contact about writing a custom chat-channel sort of mod?
19:41.06Arrowmasteryou want to write or you want somebody to write for you?
19:41.19deltronumm what kinda mod?
19:41.32KyrinKinda like a secure thing, but basically watches channel X, and filters out people not in a guild specified in a list
19:41.50Kyrinkinda like ignore, but on a bigger scale
19:41.51deltronjust password the channel
19:42.24Kyrinnah, too much work tbh, until you can reliably get control of a channel that will never work right
19:42.32Arrowmasterfor viewing or for addon comm?
19:42.42Gnarfozyay, no errors on load @ EU servers with 2.1 updated addons :D
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19:43.00deltronbasically wants to white-list a channel
19:43.07deltronfrom what I'm guessing
19:43.15KyrinYeah, that's pretty much the easiest description of it
19:43.21Kyrinby guild membership
19:43.26Kyrinnot just "my" guild though
19:43.35Kyrinwe have 12 guilds
19:43.35Angry_Dwarfsomething broke trinity =/  worked when I first logged on but not after I updated
19:43.40deltronyou get trolls in your guild channel?
19:43.53Arrowmastertrinity isnt an ace mod
19:43.54mjchey diode
19:43.56mjc:)
19:43.57deltron12 guilds? that's some major cooperation :P
19:43.59deltronsup trail
19:44.01Angry_DwarfI know
19:44.03Ominousdoes anyone here use ClassTimer?
19:44.10KyrinAlliance of 12 guilds, people continue to troll the "common" channel, and thus many people avoid it
19:44.25Kyrindeltron: Aye, The Penny-Arcade Alliance
19:44.30deltronoh nice
19:44.33Angry_Dwarfwhat's the ace bar mod, bartender?
19:44.49Arrowmasterthats one
19:44.49Arrowmasteryeah
19:44.50XuerianAngry_Dwarf: yep
19:44.50deltronbartender3
19:44.57ulicOminous: have it installed, but haven't really used/tested it yet.
19:45.09Kyrinisn't bongos also Ace?
19:45.13Arrowmasterno
19:45.19XuerianNope, but very well done
19:45.25Ominousulic: i could really do with some advice about which parts of config should be per group and which global
19:45.34deltronI heard the GM of goon squad did a /gdisband and screwed up that guild heh
19:45.40deltronthe SA guild
19:46.32mjcdeltron: WTB raid spot :(
19:46.35mjcbeen a monthish
19:46.37Kyrindeltron: I wouldn't know, were they also on Dark Iron?
19:46.38ulicOminous: ok, I'll play with it for a while and let you know what I think, wheres the best place to leave feedback, forums?
19:46.44Ominousyea
19:46.47mjcok, no
19:46.49mjctwo months!
19:46.51deltronKyrin: nah, they are on mal'ganis
19:46.56Ominousthere is a link to the forum post on wowace.com/wiki/ClassTimer
19:47.01ulick
19:47.04mjcdeltron: use your connections and get me a raid spot somewhere /runnnn
19:47.05Kyrinah
19:47.09deltronmjc: I have no influence in that guild :/  and that's pretty much I want :P
19:47.28deltronmjc: I just got lucky getting into the kara raid the other day
19:47.38deltronstill initiate :P
19:47.51mjcI'd take any guild
19:47.59mjcI just want to do some freaking new content
19:47.59deltronindomitable is looking
19:48.08deltronthey downed gruul last night first time
19:48.26shieldbmjc, skyguard/netherwing/etc is new content today :P
19:48.40mjcshieldb: new as in things I have not seen
19:48.44mjceg. kara past theater
19:48.54shieldb:'(
19:49.39mjcdeltron: hm
19:49.59KyrinMulti-guild alliance is nice, I think we have... 10 or 12 active Kara raids now, but don't envy me trying to organize the DKP system for cross-guild raiding
19:50.16ZealotOnAStickmjc: what class, race, euro or US, and what time zone?
19:50.30CIA-2303cryect * r36442 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Fixes some issues with the changed data sparsing function
19:51.04deltronheh i can answer that for him if you want
19:51.08ulicOminous: might want to do totem support, Chrono had/has that.
19:51.10mjcZealotOnAStick: US, suramar, feral durid, enh shaman, combat rogue
19:51.27deltronhorde!
19:51.38deltrontotem support with what?
19:51.40OminousUlic: no as that isnt buff/deduff
19:51.44deltronyata is all I need
19:51.52mjcyata ftw.
19:51.59CIA-2303nevcairiel * r36443 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: fixed a bug with manual paging
19:52.10KyrinSo anyway, no ideas as to whom I might contact regarding such an addon?
19:52.14hyperChipmunksergio: having the same problem
19:52.27deltroni like how you can now right-click on the yata bar and recall totems
19:52.32mjcKyrin: dkpmon is probably doable with some coding ;P
19:52.36mjcdeltron: never realized that
19:52.43hyperChipmunkdid you find a solution?
19:52.51ulicok, I'm just using bars for totems, so the timers I had from Chrono was handy for me
19:52.55Kyrinheh, there's that bug you were experiencing with bartender :P
19:52.55sergioi assume he did
19:53.04ZealotOnAStickHrm.  Well, unfortunately, we don't really need any of those three classes right now.  We are looking for nearly everything else.  If you were interested in raiding (Horde side, US Central) as a Resto shaman, we might have a spot.
19:53.05sergioi have to wait 8 more minutes bam
19:53.28Kyrinmjc: that's the plan atm
19:53.32deltronmjc: neither did I, it's nice to free up an actionbar button
19:53.41mjcZealotOnAStick: trying to stick to this server, too many friends.  appreciate the offer
19:53.53Punkie`I really don't think if GetSpellName(i, BOOKTYPE_SPELL) == "Swiftmend" then   is valid Xuerian
19:53.54deltronheh I'd like to go to a central time server
19:54.03deltronbut I've been on this server since launch
19:54.05ArrowmasterKyrin: i would suggest maybe talking to sylvanaar, some kinda channel filter might be doable with prat but i dont know
19:54.27hyperChipmunkaha, nice =)
19:54.50KyrinArrowmaster: Thanks much, I will do so, the intent is to make it easy as possible so we can get people using it
19:55.48Arrowmasteri know prat can remember players class and level, dont think it remembers guild names though
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19:56.16mjcI want a synchronized altnames thing for prat
19:56.32mjcthat'd synchronize between guild members about everyoen on the server
19:56.48deltronI want a friends list that is bigger than the blizz one
19:56.51mjcdeltroN: so you'd know when groblin's on an alt
19:56.58mjcs/N/n/
19:58.03deltronI wish you could /ignore whole guilds :)
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19:58.09deltron<PROTECTED>
19:58.12mjchaha
19:58.22deltronyou know you want to ;)
19:58.32Arrowmasteri want a common player db so stuff like prat/spamsentry/anything else i cant think of right now would all share the same db of player info
19:58.57[dRaCo]should be codeable... who did ignoremore?
19:59.19deltronlol
19:59.25deltronto ignore guilds?
19:59.26deltron:D
19:59.35[dRaCo]yeah, why not?
19:59.42deltronmuahahaha
19:59.55[dRaCo]All those anti-spam addons do pretty much the same
19:59.59ulicArrowmaster: seems like a good idea to me.  Addon authors could just do if not commondb then use localdb
20:00.16[dRaCo]whois a player and supress his msgs when he's like lvl 1 or something
20:00.37Arrowmasterulic: actually problem with doing that would be what if somebody starts using the localdb then gets the commondb
20:00.58[dRaCo]s/supress/suppress/
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20:02.18CyrezOkay, just loaded up and this is the only error at all I got:
20:02.20Cyrez[2007/05/22 13:00:16-775-x1]: Sanity2\Sanity.lua:224: AceHook-2.1: Attempt to hook method "SetMerchantCompareItem" failed, it does not exist in the given object "table: 08C161B0".
20:02.23ulicyea, you'd have to build in some kind of merge utility
20:02.33CyrezOther than that, everything else appears to work. <3
20:03.34CyrezOf course, half of my addons need their TOC's updated but whatever, they still function.
20:04.12Thraeomg the TOCs are out of date, now the addons will make you shit blood if you touch your mouse.
20:04.32TheKarnThrae, i do that normally ... should i worry?
20:04.45Ominoushow can you make status bars less jumpy?
20:05.00ckknightOminous: by having smaller steps
20:05.07Kyrinyou should stop touching your mouse for one
20:05.21Ominoushmm, i just use game time atm
20:05.22ZealotOnAStickAnyone know the googlecode or other web sites or SVNs for Tuller's and Gello's mods?
20:05.31Ominoushow can i improve that
20:05.32Arrowmastertullamods on google i think
20:05.34deltronwhat's those mods do?
20:05.45ThraeTheKarn: Didn't you see the Optimus Prime & Robot Chicken special on gastoentiritis?!
20:05.48kergothdeltron, mjc: what guilds are you guys in nowadays?
20:05.57deltronkergoth: just joined fear
20:06.01TheKarnThrae, i'm sorry to say i didnt
20:06.03TullerZealotOnAStick: http://code.google.com/p/tullamods no bongos yet though
20:06.10deltronkergoth: yer bro wants me to join your guys' new mods :P
20:06.15kergothdeltron, ah, hows that going?
20:06.29ZealotOnAStick:(
20:06.30kergothheh, our guild on arathor went poof, not sure what we're doing next
20:06.32deltronkergoth: good, they seem like a good group of raiders
20:06.40sbuyay
20:06.41sbumagtheridon down
20:06.46sbu3rd guild on server :)
20:06.52kergothgrats
20:06.56vodrinwe killed lurker for first time today
20:06.59Ominousckknight:i just use game time atm, how can i improve that?
20:07.02vodrinall happy strolling off to vashj
20:07.09vodrinand work out console still locked
20:07.17vodrinkilled lurker during spout bugging him :<
20:07.20ckknightOminous: okay, what're you trying to smooth?
20:07.34Ominousckknight: my timer bars
20:07.43CIA-2303Octane666 * r36444 10SpamMeNot/ (5 files):
20:07.43CIA-23SpamMeNot:
20:07.43CIA-23- Removed report system and relevent GUI components.
20:07.43CIA-23- Now compatible with Blizzard's new anti-spammer code, although it doesn't seem to be enabled on their servers at the time of writing.
20:07.43CIA-23- Changes to the main chat filter.
20:07.55ckknightOminous: basically, steal code from PitBull_BarFader
20:07.58Gngskwtb modelchange.exe for 2.1
20:08.04Ominousckknight: ok
20:09.35mjcRIGHT CLICK REPOERTEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111oneoneone
20:11.23a-stray-catare and and or the same precedence?
20:11.23Wixianyone had a problem with bartender since the patch? my stance bar has vanished off the face of the earth
20:11.55ulicI had some wierd stuff happen, but not much, just moved things bag
20:11.57ulicer back
20:12.00mjchttp://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/money/article_1702706.php
20:12.10deltronoh heck yes, my meta gem requirements got waaay cut
20:12.20deltronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=25901
20:12.21deltronyeeuh
20:13.14kergothi cant wait to cut a http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32409
20:13.40deltronthat's a sweet meta
20:15.12CIA-2303zealotonastick * r36445 10FuTextures/FuTextures.toc: FuTextures - .toc to 20100
20:16.02Sarozman, gief trip to blizz
20:16.28deltronget cancer kthx
20:16.54ZealotOnASticknymbia: Quartz Interrupt is showing out of date.
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20:20.07Sarozhttp://www.ocregister.com/newsimages/money/2007/05/22blizzard8_lg.jpg zomg tigole's office!
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20:20.49deltronheh tigole sits like I do :P
20:20.56Sarozsame
20:20.57Saroz-.-
20:21.15deltronbut I dress better
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20:21.22Sarozlies
20:22.03kenlyriclike a 12--year-old girl?
20:22.52sergiohaha
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20:24.04kenlyrictigole does have my computer, though.
20:24.12NimbleRabitanyone know where I can download the patch?
20:24.17Angry_Dwarffirst fatal error of new patch, hooray
20:24.23kenlyricwell, same monitors, at least.
20:24.28kenlyricFATALITY
20:24.35kenlyricAngry_Dwarf: and screw you for having servers that work :)
20:24.53deltronhehe
20:25.15deltronI can view armory on my shaman, but not on my mage :(
20:25.22sylvanaarnew wau, triggered the nag
20:25.58Angry_Dwarfyeah I gotta get working on alch discovery =p
20:26.20deltronanother new build on sf?
20:26.23Kyrinsylvanaar: got a min or two for a couple quick questions?
20:27.03sylvanaaryeah, new build uses compressed indexes which were added today
20:27.08sylvanaarKyrin sure
20:27.13Kyrinthx
20:27.55NimbleRabitanyone know of a place where I can dl the patch without waiting in line for 20 minutes?
20:28.14renchaphttp://files-wowace.renchap.com/ is now synced, there was a bug in the update script
20:28.31KyrinNimbleRabit: Promise not to share the link?
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20:28.47NimbleRabitKyrin: yeah I promise.  all the people I know use the background downloader anyways
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20:28.57CIA-2303cryect * r36446 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Fights should now be properly centered in the graph window (forgot to take into account the averaging window being used).
20:29.40cynyranyone else having wow lockup when exiting, using wine?
20:29.48cynyrkindda off topic i know
20:31.01deltronWoW players should keep an eye out for Chatterton's creations: the rare, flame-shooting crossbow, a quest from a graying Tauren named Ahab Wheathoof and his frenzied dog, Kyle. Blizzard will add Ezra's changes to the game in the next four weeks.
20:31.04CIA-2303sole * r36447 10Antagonist/Data/ (Buffs.lua Cooldowns.lua): Antagonist: - Added Windfury Totem as a buff. Updated Counterspell cooldown to 24 sec.
20:31.04ckknightum, AtlasLoot is on the svn?
20:31.19Funkeh`yes
20:31.25Thraeckknight: They're Ace'ing it in direct competition to your addon!
20:31.26deltroni thought atlas was moving over to an ace structure
20:31.39ckknightThrae: curse those handsome devils!
20:31.42sbuckknight: aura filtering buff fine?
20:31.42deltronlol
20:31.45TheKarnAtlace :P
20:31.51ThraeIt shall use Khaos and Ace together, as Atlas is still part of Khaos right now!
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20:31.56ckknightsbu: no idea what that means.
20:32.01ThraeIT'S UNHOLY I TELL YOU!
20:32.01deltronlol
20:32.11CIA-2303daviesh * r36448 10AtlasLoot/ (7 files in 5 dirs):
20:32.11CIA-23AtlasLoot:
20:32.11CIA-23- v3.00.01, fixed for Atlas 1.9.1
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20:32.29ckknightDaviesh should come on IRC
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20:32.44ckknightThrae: actually, doesn't Khaos support AceOptions now?
20:33.15Sedaimy squeenix is borked :(
20:33.20Sedaihehe
20:33.24Thraeckknight: Mmmm, really?
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20:34.19Angry_Dwarfrofl.. there is a hunter in shatt on a netherdrake already
20:34.38deltronjesus christ already?
20:34.43ulicthat doesn't sound possible
20:35.03NightHawkTheSanethat can't be possible
20:35.09Gnarfozit's the quest that turns you into an orc on a netherdrake
20:35.14Gnarfozit's not his mount - check his buffs
20:35.23NightHawkTheSaneyeah, probably
20:35.23Arrowmasterdidnt they fix that bug on ptr?
20:35.30Gnarfozthat's not a bug, is it? oO
20:35.34Funkeh`US servers are up now?
20:35.35Arrowmasterit is
20:35.38Gnarfozwhat about it is?
20:35.41Gnarfozrange of the buff?
20:35.47Gnarfoz(how far you can carry it)
20:35.50Arrowmasteryou shouldnt be able to still have the buff outside of netherwing ledge
20:35.50deltronhmm
20:35.58deltroninteresting
20:35.59Kaydeethreethat bug's been on the PTR since day one
20:36.01ulicFunkeh`: for a little while now
20:36.03CIA-2303mok * r36449 10xchar/ (. locales/locale-deDE.lua locales/locale-enUS.lua xchar.lua): xchar:added Boss tracking. i tampered with GetBags, need t recheck
20:36.04KaydeethreeI'm surprised they haven't fixed it
20:36.11Funkeh`wow
20:36.13kergothxchar?
20:36.20Funkeh`Eu servers have not even gone down yet
20:36.21Gnarfozwtf is that
20:36.27GnarfozFunkeh`: they're fast :< fuckers.
20:36.28Arrowmasteryou wont see somebody with a real netherdrake until about 15 days from now, not counting server crashes and rolling restarts
20:36.32sylvanaarwho knows where the chatframe error is coming from, in the macro onupdate?
20:36.55GnarfozArrowmaster: there was some rogue on PTR who did that faster than that - also a bug? or just insane grinding? :D
20:37.07ulicso far server is stable, been on for over 1.5hrs.
20:37.08Kaydeethreeyou can't get the mount for ~2 weeks
20:37.09Kaydeethreeit's a bug
20:37.16Arrowmasterdaily quest count limit resets everytime the server crashes or restarts
20:37.29Kaydeethreeshouldn't. they fixed that on the ptr
20:37.35Arrowmasterthats how the rogue got it faster than 2 weeks
20:37.42Chompersfuck  malachezaar
20:37.43Angry_Dwarfdiscovered flask of mighty restoration.. hooray
20:37.43Gnarfozah
20:37.50ChompersARGH
20:37.55Arrowmasterthey fixed the daily quest count reseting?
20:37.56GnarfozPTR is of course the best place when you're looking for restarts :D
20:38.01hyperChipmunkthe new forge in A52 is AWESOME...gonna set manufac to make a thousand felsteel bars and just feed in material from my mailbox and send stacks of felsteel out to my mule
20:38.05Kaydeethreearrow; yah. I tried it a fwe weeks ago
20:38.15hyperChipmunkyou can reach the forge from the mailbox =D
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20:38.26Kaydeethreeit wasn't even based on server restarts, you could log out and turn in another 2 stacks of herbs
20:38.28GnarfozhyperChipmunk: that's great, but wtf 1k oO
20:38.29ArrowmasterhyperChipmunk: you on a pvp server?
20:39.00ArrowmasterKaydeethree: huh? sounds like a bug with the herb quest then because i know the mining one did not do that when the ptr first opened
20:39.14hyperChipmunkGnarfoz: cuz i was too lazy to calculate how much was actually on my mailbox
20:39.27hyperChipmunkit'll just run until i run out of mats
20:39.40Kaydeethreeit was specifically the herb quest
20:39.46hyperChipmunkArrowmaster: RP
20:39.50Kaydeethreenone of the others could get reset
20:40.21KyrinhyperChipmunk: do you get much goldfarmer spam on RP servers?  Do they at least attempt to RP?  :p
20:40.37[dRaCo]...
20:40.41[dRaCo]no.
20:41.02Ominousan OnUpdate script is only run when the frame is shown right?
20:41.14hyperChipmunkplenty, and no
20:41.41Kyrinheh
20:42.11Kyrinit's too bad, I almost miss p4h, they made my inbox almost feel like I was on an RP server
20:42.24ag`XCOM oh snap
20:43.56CIA-2303sole * r36450 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist: toc update.
20:44.55ckknightOminous: yes.
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20:45.29CIA-2303thekarn 07SplitCache * r36451 10Sanity2/Sanity.lua: Sanity: tolower(name) -> name:lower()
20:47.11Josh_BorkeTheKarn: is name:lower() better?
20:49.07TheKarntolower(name) doesnt seem to work sometimes
20:49.39TheKarnstring.lower(name) does though
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20:50.52mjcsplitcache?
20:51.11HerioI did not anticipate the patch breaking all my macros :O
20:51.12hastethere's not tolower function now is there?
20:51.20hasteno*
20:52.27Cryectyeah there is
20:52.30Cryectstring:tolower
20:52.36Cryecterr string.tolower
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20:52.41Cryectisn't there?
20:52.51hastestring.lower
20:52.54Gnarfozit's been asked a thousand times, what was the simplest way of getting the name of the frame the cursor is over?
20:53.09NightHawkTheSaneGetMouseFocus():GetName()
20:53.11ckknightGnarfoz: GetMouseFocus():GetName()
20:53.13ckknightblast
20:53.13Gnarfozthx
20:53.19Gnarfozboth of you ;p
20:53.38NightHawkTheSane:P
20:53.38ckknightNightHawkTheSane: U STINK
20:53.39NightHawkTheSaneckknight: U TPE 2 MCH.
20:53.44ckknightNUB
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20:53.51NightHawkTheSaneNO U
20:53.51ckknightI PWNT UR MOM
20:53.54CIA-2303morgalm * r36452 10MorgBid/MorgBid.toc:
20:53.54CIA-23MorgBid:
20:53.54CIA-23- TOC update
20:54.03CIA-2303morgalm * r36453 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc):
20:54.03CIA-23MorgDKP:
20:54.03CIA-23- TOC update
20:54.48GnarfozNightHawkTheSane wins, he used NO U -.-
20:54.51deltronUR FACE
20:55.49deltronI'm not happy about the change to http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28590
20:55.54deltronit was 11 mp/5 :/
20:55.59CIA-2303antiarc 07SplitCache * r36454 10Sanity2/ (Sanity2.toc SanityDisplay.lua): Sanity2: General fixes.
20:56.04CIA-2303ayunyan * r36455 10ChatAssist2/ (ChatAssist2.toc Core/ChatAssist.lua Readme.txt ReadmeJ.txt):
20:56.04CIA-23ChatAssist2:
20:56.04CIA-23- Fixed ColorName for WoW 2.1
20:56.04CIA-23- Changed Interface version to 20100.
20:56.04CIA-23- Update document
20:56.38AntiarcSplitCache is just my sanity2 dev branch
20:56.45AntiarcWhich thekarn is helping me on
20:57.10CIA-2303antiarc * r36456 10/branches/SanityItemCache/ (SanityItemCache.lua SanityItemCache.toc): SanityItemCache: General fixes.
20:57.13AntiarcAnd now I go back to work.
20:57.21CIA-2303ayunyan * r36457 10ChatAssist2Options/ChatAssist2Options.toc:
20:57.21CIA-23ChatAssist2Options:
20:57.22CIA-23- Changed Interface version to 20100.
20:57.22CIA-23- Changed Addon version to 2.0.1
20:58.00KyrinSo, Anea (author of spamsentry) doesn't hang out here (or at least isn't here atm), or have contact info on the wiki, anyone know how to get ahold of him or what server he's on?
20:58.45CIA-2303ayunyan 072.0.1 * r36458 10ChatAssist2/: retagging...
20:58.53deltron~seen anea
20:59.49purlanea <n=apyss@a62-251-8-41.adsl.xs4all.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21d 3h 22m 5s ago, saying: 'working on a clean install with just opera as irc client, guess i'll have to download something better'.
21:00.01eobethow does noteshare work in cartographer? the menu in my WOW draws outside the screen, so I can't see the options...
21:00.11knarf-deltron agreed
21:00.12Kyrinheh
21:00.20yacoobholy!
21:00.22yacoobIs that Mikma?
21:00.26yacoobhttp://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mikma
21:00.27yacoob:D
21:00.31NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work, Antiarc: if you havn't seen it... sanity2 is throwing this error: http://ace.pastey.net/38144
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21:01.45CIA-2303ayunyan 072.0.1 * r36459 10ChatAssist2/: ChatAssist2: tagging for 2.0.1
21:01.56ravagernlomg watch those comments yacoob XD
21:02.08yacoobwhat? :)
21:02.09NimbleRabitwoot gouge won't trigger poisons anymore!
21:02.19sbunevcairiel: buttonassignment fixed in BT3?
21:02.28CIA-2303chrisp * r36460 10QuestAnnouncer/QuestAnnouncer.toc: QuestAnnouncer: updated toc
21:02.36CIA-2303ayunyan 072.0.1 * r36461 10ChatAssist2Options/: ChatAssist2Options: tagging for 2.0.1
21:03.15CIA-2303daviesh * r36462 10AtlasLoot/ (45 files in 18 dirs):
21:03.15CIA-23AtlasLoot:
21:03.15CIA-23- Updated to be consistent with every other version of v3.00.01 out there. No longer use externals for libraries as 'editors' have destroyed the work on setting them up.
21:03.15CIA-23Please do not edit code unless you have to, I am only uploading release version here. If you have a suggestion, go through the proper channels (atlasloot.net forums).
21:03.44Kyrindeltron: So, I guess that'd be a "no idea" as to how to contact anea :)
21:03.51deltronnope
21:03.54deltronlol
21:03.54Kyrink
21:03.59deltronnot seen the name in here
21:04.07cynyranyone else having wow lockup when exiting, using wine? yes yes i know slightly OT, but alot of people here play that way
21:04.57nevcairielsbu: ?
21:05.12packetlsscynyr: nope, but i'm still on 2.0 here in EU
21:06.18sbunevcairiel uhm i tried BT3 on PTR yesterday
21:06.18ravagernl0o since when does atlasloot use ace2
21:06.18nevcairielwhat button assignment?
21:06.18sbukeybinding :)
21:06.19nevcairielthats been fixed for quite a while
21:06.19deltronatlas has been converting slowly for a while
21:06.19sbusorry, meh... im totally confused
21:06.22grzesieqooh, atlasloot on wowace :)
21:07.18Kyrin~seen Usz
21:07.59purlusz <n=usz@chello089078245040.chello.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 26d 21h 57m 41s ago, saying: 'sounds like 300kb project'.
21:08.01deltronI have no intention of switching to atlas
21:08.02Kyrinfrom cartographer?
21:08.02deltronpersonally heh
21:08.05deltronyeah
21:08.16nevcairieli think somehow AutoBar or some other mobs taints the secure templates, bartender3 bar switchign stops working when its active :o
21:08.24nevcairiels/mobs/mods/
21:08.43Saroz"Please do not edit code unless you have to, I am only uploading release version here." <<< Ehh, so wowace is just a mirror now?
21:08.58Gnarfozhrmpf
21:08.59hyperChipmunkcynyr: yes
21:09.01nevcairiellooks like it
21:09.04nevcairielthat sucks tho
21:09.04hyperChipmunki have to kill it
21:09.15nevcairieldoes it even use Ace2?
21:09.19ravagernlyes
21:09.24deltronedit the code :)
21:09.28deltronhack away at it
21:09.29Sarozgo for it
21:09.30deltroncreate a fork!
21:09.31deltronlol
21:09.37ravagernlstupid, uses ace libs and no periodictable
21:09.38Funkeh`not to its full potential
21:09.38Antiarc|WorkAnd back
21:09.41Funkeh`as far as i can see
21:09.42Gnarfozhe could just lock the dir
21:09.55ravagernlhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AtlasLoot/PvP/Battlegrounds.en.lua <-- No PT!
21:10.00Gnarfozbut to do that he'd have to talk to an admin, which he would likely could do _here_, but here he's not :P
21:10.06Antiarc|WorkNightHawkTheSane: Yeah, saw it, gotta address it
21:10.13Antiarc|WorkLots of stuff coming down the pipe :)
21:10.22Gnarfozhrm
21:10.27NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: *nod* awesome. :)
21:10.51Gnarfozhow'd I best go about modifying the GameTooltip contents that show when I mouse over someone in the LFM frame?
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21:10.57cynyrhyperChipmunk: figure out a fix yet? because the winehq page hasn't been updated
21:11.15Gnarfozdo I have to replace the frame's OnEnter function? is that even possible without taint? :D
21:11.18Cryecthaving fun issues with -opengl mode being disabled for some reason?
21:11.44GnarfozI know it uses LFM_FRAME_TEMPLATE for each line
21:12.05Gnarfozcould I make that a function that returns something else than the string it normally contains? ;D
21:12.11Antiarc|WorkI did some initial profiling and it looks with with my changes, Sanity's resource usage is nice and low. :D
21:12.27Antiarc|WorkSo it should be screamin' before long
21:12.31Antiarc|WorkAlso, ColaLight is a -beast-
21:12.54nevcairielthats so funny, AtlasLoot doesnt even really use Ace2 .. its only using Babble and ace2 for its fubarplugin .. and we are not supposed to edit it because he uploads release versions .. thats kinda weird :P
21:12.58CIA-2303durcyn * r36463 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/Cooldown.lua:
21:12.58CIA-23FuBar_tcgTradeskills:
21:12.58CIA-23adjust Cooldown.lua for the following 2.1 changes:
21:12.58CIA-23- Removed the 1 hour cooldown when cutting diamonds.
21:12.58CIA-23- Profession recipes that had 24 hour or longer cooldowns, have had their cooldowns reduced by 1 hour.
21:12.58NightHawkTheSaneoh ffs. Blizzard's "report spam" button on mail? It'll report the spam, but it closes the window without deleting the message, so you have to re-open and delete. come on.
21:13.16Antiarc|WorkThat can probably be modded
21:13.35KyrinNightHawkTheSane: so you're surprised that it's not intuitive?
21:13.35NightHawkTheSaneprobably, hopefully spamsentry will handle it soon
21:13.47NightHawkTheSaneKyrin: ... sadly, no. more like disappointed and frustrated.
21:14.47Gnarfozhrm
21:14.49KyrinI'll simply be happy if I don't have to open a GM ticket for every spam I get now, then I don't have to get the damn GM mail filling my inbox
21:15.18Gnarfozfunction () return "%s - Level %s %s" end  <-- it complains it returns a function, how do I make the function return a string?
21:15.25durcyni always enjoyed the "you will not be able to respond to this message" messages they sent.
21:15.28Gnarfoz~pil
21:15.42purli guess pil is Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1. the Python Imaging Library
21:15.43Kyrinhehe
21:15.43Prophso sap is currented bugged??? sapping multiple targets?
21:15.56GnarfozProph: that certainly sounds nice ;D
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21:16.55SHIFT_nismoSo has the patch broke any addons?
21:17.01kebinusanbleh I liked teal
21:17.08Josh_BorkeSHIFT_nismo: ace if you haven't updated in a long time
21:17.12kebinusanthis new shaman color is way too dark
21:17.36Antiarc|WorkProph: Huh? What?
21:17.40Antiarc|WorkYou can sap multiple targets?
21:17.46Antiarc|Work*rubs hands together evilly*
21:17.48SHIFT_nismolooks like they eliminated EQCompare
21:17.57Antiarc|WorkThat was a couple of patches ago, wasn't it?
21:18.07NightHawkTheSane*blink* hitting 'm' wont open my map.
21:18.12nevcairiel~wau
21:18.26purlhmm... wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.
21:18.30NimbleRabithmm
21:18.33NimbleRabitwhat changed in bartender
21:18.37NimbleRabitit looks odd but I can't put my finger on it
21:19.02SHIFT_nismo10NightHawkTheSane: 01Uh oh Cartographer?
21:19.22abyssichateAre black lotuses going to be picked up in the same way as fel lotuses in 2.1?
21:19.23NightHawkTheSaneSHIFT_nismo: well, i'm guessing, but i'm not sure.
21:19.30KyrinI do love WAU, I run it religiously every time before I launch WoW, almost like a preloader :P
21:19.45SHIFT_nismoI <3 patch days
21:19.57NimbleRabitwoah my tolltip is jacked up now
21:20.00kebinusanso prat needs an option to use the old shaman color
21:20.03kebinusan:-)
21:20.05NimbleRabitit's showing name, level, class, and guild all twice
21:20.06kovino abyssichate, still spawns in the old world + drops from mobs that can be herbed
21:20.14koviand the spawnrate has been increased
21:20.15Gnarfozkebinusan: classcolors does that
21:20.31abyssichateIt won't spawn in outlands though, right?
21:20.36koviyup
21:20.44abyssichateOk, thanks
21:21.06Kyrinpatch days are pure awesome now with WAU, I never have to goto all the damn sites that are busy getting hosed by people downloading their addons :P
21:21.35mjcWUU is cooler
21:21.55Kyrin~wuu
21:22.16purlwell, wuu is WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automatically from WoWAce, WoWI, UIWoW, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/
21:22.16Gnarfozhrm
21:22.16NimbleRabitnow that wuu doesn't do ui.worldofwar it's not quite as cool
21:22.16NimbleRabitbut it still rocks
21:22.16kergothquestion about arena.. as a rogue, what arena should i work for? 5v5? 2v2?
21:22.19NimbleRabit3v3
21:22.21Antiarc|Work5v5 is the best points, easily
21:22.27Antiarc|WorkRogues are really powerful in 2v2 and 3v3 though
21:22.29Gnarfozdepends on your team, and 5vs5 gives most points obviously
21:22.32CIA-2303ominous * r36464 10ClassTimer/ (Core.lua Locales/enUS.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: Added alfa to bar colors and added background color
21:22.32Antiarc|WorkLess so in 5v5, but they're still pretty decent.
21:22.37Antiarc|WorkWarriors are king of 5v5, no doubt.
21:22.51Kyrinhrm... i don't use anything but Ace addons... or at least I thought so, turns out bongos isn't ace =/
21:22.54NimbleRabit3v3 is the easiest to get high with a rogue imo
21:23.12NightHawkTheSaneckknight: does cart have any slash commands?
21:23.19Gnarfozformat(LFM_NAME_TEMPLATE, name, level, class) <-- if I replace LFM_NAME_TEMPLATE with a function, format complains. is there any magic I can do to make it not complain? help -.-
21:23.20ckknightdoubt it
21:23.28hyperChipmunktauren nonepic druid flight form went in
21:23.36hyperChipmunkpitbull doesn't pick it up, i think
21:23.37ckknightNightHawkTheSane: why?
21:23.54ckknighthyperChipmunk: how does it not pick up?
21:24.06*** join/#wowace stavmar_ (n=chatzill@fw2.isgenesis.com)
21:24.10hyperChipmunkdoesn't show (Flight)
21:24.17NightHawkTheSaneckknight: ah, well, in 2.1 right now, hitting M makes the map frame show up, but it's completely transparent. Only reason I even realized its there is the large dead-zone on my screen for clicking
21:24.26kergothhmm... is envenom decent in pvp? or better off just using evis so you dont have to worry about deadly charges wearing off while you're feared and such?
21:24.32NightHawkTheSaneckknight: was hoping there was a slash command to reset it or something. >.>
21:24.37ckknightNightHawkTheSane: yea, issue with alpha stuff
21:24.41ckknightNightHawkTheSane: shift-mousewheel
21:24.43hyperChipmunkshift-mousewheel
21:24.49NightHawkTheSaneckknight: thanks
21:24.56hyperChipmunkthat's gonna be a real problem, btw
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21:25.36ckknightI only realized the issue an hour ago
21:25.40ckknightI'll see what I can do to fix it
21:26.33NimbleRabitI hate patch days with mods
21:26.36NimbleRabitmy ui is bleh
21:26.36NimbleRabitT_T
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21:27.16Josh_Borkebleh
21:27.26Wraangerhello 2 all
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21:27.44Lyfefunny.. most of my ui mods are either updated, or still work (once checking 'load out of date')
21:28.17Ominouskergoth: its good but in areana me and my mate just use crippling and mind in arena for sap and blind
21:28.25ulicLyfe: same here
21:28.28Ominouskergoth: expecially against tanks
21:28.44NimbleRabitLyfe: they mostly work but some look different (read: uglier)
21:28.46NimbleRabitlike bartender
21:28.49NimbleRabitand a few others
21:28.50kergothah
21:29.02Lyfe*shrug*
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21:29.24NimbleRabit1 of my addons actually added like..complete new functionality
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21:29.27NimbleRabitwhich is annoying
21:29.34Punkie``like what?
21:29.36kergothhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=whe0REMoizVohxV0bV is the build from the roguespot thread.. guess i can see getting imp expose if you arent using envenom
21:29.54NimbleRabitPunkie`: a cooldown timer lol
21:30.04ulicNimbleRabit: perhaps bartender didn't hold your "style", I had that issue on one bar that I toggle on and off with a macro.
21:30.05stavmar_getting this error with ClassTimer http://ace.pastey.net/38170
21:30.40Ominousstavmar: have you red it?
21:30.51Punkie``kergoth: Are you going for PvE dps?
21:30.52NimbleRabitulic: perhaps, but the changes are odd.  Mostly it looks "bigger".  I think perhaps it might instead be a problem with my fonts
21:30.59Kyrin* Omen of Clarity: This spell is no longer castable in Tree of Life Form or Moonkin Form  <-- made me a sad panda
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21:31.28Antiarc|Workck, cart bug report from a friend of mine:
21:31.29kergothPunkie``, my guild isn't raiding much yet, so mainly 5 mans and delving into arena for some gear, since i won't be getting kara daggers for a while
21:31.30kergothheh
21:31.41stavmar_Ominous: yeah i am not sure how to fix it, sorry?
21:31.46Antiarc|Work"It's weird, you know how it can make the edges of the map transparent and knock off the useless blank space? When you fiddle with that it makes the entire map window vanish"
21:31.53Ominousstavmar: wait for patch tomorrow
21:31.59Punkie``kergoth: Slice n Dice is pretty nice to put points in
21:32.02ckknightAntiarc|Work: I know
21:32.08Antiarc|WorkAlrighty :)
21:32.10stavmar_Ominous: ok thanks
21:32.11kergothyea, i was a bit concerned about that being missing, at least for a hybrid build
21:32.19Antiarc|WorkAt least 2 points in SnD is 100% worth it if you do any PVE
21:32.25Antiarc|WorkHowever, 2 piece Netherblade gives you some fiddle room
21:32.39NimbleRabitkergoth: take 3 from reflexes -> imp snd
21:32.40Antiarc|WorkI have 3/3 Imp SnD and 2 pieces of Netherblade and it feels like SnD never, ever runs out
21:32.50nevcairieli wonder how autobar manages to break bt3
21:32.55nevcairielbut anyway, need some sleep
21:32.56nevcairielnn
21:33.21nevcairielIf anyone asks why Bartender3 paging is not working, tell them to disable AutoBar :P
21:33.33XuerianPunkie`: did you ever get that working
21:33.41Antiarc|WorkWhat's that mut build for, exactly?
21:33.43stavmar_Antiarc|Work: what can I do about this particular error? http://ace.pastey.net/38174
21:33.59Antiarc|Workstavmar: Wait for me to get home tonight so I can fix it.  :D
21:34.31stavmar_Antiarc|Work: coolio
21:34.38Punkie``Xuerian: You'd never believe it
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21:35.17Punkie``Put it this way... GetSpellCooldown("Swiftmend") :p
21:35.38kergothAntiarc|Work, the one i linked was from a thread on roguespot for pvp builds.. but i'm looking to do both pve and pvp, so need to adjust it slightly
21:36.36Antiarc|Workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=whe0oEosizVoGci00V is my current Mut build, which I'm quite happy with, though I might shift some points into imp BS next time. Mutilate + Curator = suckage
21:36.43Antiarc|Work(Curator's immune to poisons)
21:37.01Gnarfozhm
21:37.10Antiarc|WorkI don't understand why you'd want a PVP build without Imp KS.
21:37.27Antiarc|WorkFind Weakness + Imp KS + Cold Blood + Mutilate on cloth = huge friggin' numbers
21:37.44XuerianPunkie``: Just, too, easy.
21:37.47XuerianPunkie``: . lol.
21:37.49kergoththeir reasoning was the change in the trinkets
21:37.53kergothrogues and locks can break ks now
21:38.12Antiarc|WorkBut priests and druids in healer form can't.
21:38.17Punkie`Xuerian: Yep, it doesn't work 100% correct though, as meh... I'll leave it until tomorrow :P
21:38.19kergothtrue that
21:38.50Antiarc|WorkFleet Footed is kinda useless, IMO, because we have CloS to break snares, and the move bonus doesn't stack with the meta gem.
21:39.03Punkie`Antiarc|Work: and you are obviously a gnome
21:39.06Antiarc|WorkHuman
21:39.11GnarfozI am gnome.
21:39.27CIA-2303evilelvis * r36465 10eeShards/eeShards.toc: eeShards - touch
21:39.27CIA-2303evilelvis * r36466 10eePanels/eePanels.toc: eePanels - touch
21:39.35Antiarc|WorkBetween CloS and Vanish, I just...don't have snare problems, generally.
21:39.46Punkie`Yeah, I agree
21:39.46Antiarc|WorkIt's far, far, far less critical to resist a frost nova than it used to be.
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21:40.14Punkie`Well to be honest, 10% isn't enough for it to work when you want it too really
21:40.18CIA-2303toadkiller * r36467 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/ (GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua GridStatusMissingBuffs.toc):
21:40.18CIA-23GridStatusMissingBuffs:
21:40.18CIA-23-Update TOC & wiki link
21:40.19Antiarc|WorkExactly
21:40.27Antiarc|WorkThe move bonus was nice, but the non-stacking with gems kills that
21:40.38Punkie`of course
21:40.48Antiarc|WorkAlso, in favor of imp KS, cheapshotting a mage, making them blink 3 yards on the Blade's Edge arena bridge, and then KS -> CB -> Mutilate is absolutely devestating.
21:41.04kergothwell, i wont be using the movement speed meta now that i can get the +12agi one,a nd i only have one meta slot atm
21:41.05Antiarc|WorkGoodbye, little 35% crit, 6000 HP magelet.
21:41.08kergothheh, but point taken
21:41.45NimbleRabitI have snare problems
21:41.48NimbleRabitI call them hunters
21:42.01Punkie`Antiarc|Work: I had a hilarious time against 2 3 minute mages in Nagrand
21:42.05Antiarc|WorkHunters are still a problem, but a 10% resist on snares isn't going to save you against a hunter.
21:42.11Punkie`NimbleRabit: Deadly throw helps slightly
21:42.13Antiarc|WorkPunkie`: Those pillars are fun, eh? :D
21:42.21NimbleRabitPunkie`: kind of, but frost trap is just...ugh
21:42.26Punkie`Antiarc|Work: Not at all, they used the same tactic over and over ;)
21:42.29Antiarc|WorkFrost Trap is a bunch of crap and needs to DIAF
21:42.50Punkie`They went invisible to the other end of the arena
21:42.51NimbleRabityep
21:42.51Punkie`every time
21:42.51NimbleRabitit's unfair antiarc
21:42.51Punkie`and I was waiting ready to sap ;)
21:42.52NimbleRabitCloS should make us immune to it's slow
21:42.57Antiarc|WorkAnd being in stealth, as well.
21:43.17Punkie`NimbleRabit: I don't have a problem with traps, surely you can see them a mile away and pop a CloS?
21:43.26NimbleRabitclos does nothing against frost
21:43.28NimbleRabitNOTHING
21:43.51NimbleRabitthat's the problem
21:43.55Antiarc|WorkFreezing you can CloS
21:43.58Antiarc|WorkFrost you can't do jack about
21:43.59SHIFT_nismoWe really dont have much to do against a rogue
21:44.01Punkie`Oh, misread :)
21:44.02NimbleRabitif they freezing I laugh and win
21:44.09NimbleRabitif they frost I /afk and go cry in a corner
21:44.39NimbleRabitthe entrapment diminishing returns really isn't going to help much either imo
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21:44.44Antiarc|WorkIf I get frosted and there's nobody else on the hunter, Blind is the only real counter.
21:44.56Punkie`I'm thinking of this build atm
21:44.57Punkie`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oEosizVoGcV0bV
21:45.51a-stray-catyou can clos over frost trap
21:45.54Antiarc|WorkI'm generally of the opinion that imp gouge is useless in a mutilate build, because it's so synergetic with deadly/envenom
21:45.56a-stray-catif you resist the trap
21:46.00a-stray-catthe frost aura doesnt go up
21:46.04a-stray-catsame as freezing trap
21:46.10Antiarc|Worka-stray-cat: Pretty sure it does :/
21:46.13Antiarc|WorkBecause I do it ALL THE TIME.
21:46.15Punkie`Antiarc|Work: I don't use envenom particularly
21:46.23a-stray-catbecause it happens to me all the time?
21:46.24kergothwell, if you arent taking imp gouge, might as well drop imp evis and put those points in imp poisons or something.
21:46.46Antiarc|Work*shrug*
21:46.55Punkie`I can't, its prereq of the tier 2
21:47.10kergothwhen i'm envenoming, i probably evis once an hour
21:47.15kergothif that, on poison immune mobs
21:47.16Antiarc|WorkI just know that I gnash my teeth in frustration when I see a hunter drop a trap, I CloS it, and oh hey, look, frost!
21:47.18kergothcourse i'm not raiding :)
21:47.20cladhaireLaric: no,its only available in print, at the moment
21:47.31Punkie`You should only ever envenom when you know that a mob is going to die
21:47.39Antiarc|WorkThe only place I use Evis over Envenom is Curator (poison immune) and Aran (he has 0 armory anyway)
21:48.25Punkie`you lose valuable poison ticks which can make up for that difference in damage
21:48.25OminousPunkie: i disagree alot
21:48.25kergothno way
21:48.25NimbleRabitI wonder why bartender changed my bars scale to 110%
21:48.25NimbleRabitfrom 100
21:48.25Antiarc|WorkWith Mutilate, the poison apply rate on double deadly is high enough that you don't lose nearly anything at all.
21:48.25NimbleRabitlol
21:48.25kergothif you have points in impo poisons and vile poisons, you're back at 5 deadly in a matter of like 2 seconds
21:48.26kergothif that
21:48.26kergothafter the envenom
21:48.26Punkie`But I don't
21:48.26Antiarc|WorkMutilate is 2 chances to apply per use, factored in with 1.8 speed daggers and SnD and you're cookin'
21:48.26OminousPunkie: my envenom crits are ALOT bigger than evis, i have imp alpplications top they apply quickly and no armor reduction
21:48.37kergoth<3 envenom + stormstrike
21:48.39Antiarc|WorkPlus, Envenom gets boosed off of Stormstrike :D
21:48.41Punkie`I use SlicenDice -> Rupture
21:48.41kergothshaman in the group makes me happy
21:48.42Antiarc|WorkHaha, yes
21:48.47Antiarc|WorkI had a 4k envenom in Gruul the other day
21:48.49kergoth4k envenom = hapy kergoth
21:48.49Ominouskergoth: <3
21:48.50Antiarc|WorkI was rather pleased with that.
21:48.51kergothhahah
21:49.01Antiarc|Work*highfive*
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21:50.08Punkie`Well yeah, I do use envenom when I can get a 4k+ stormstrike one, and I think misery counts too :)
21:50.22Punkie`Need Curse of Nature :p
21:50.28NimbleRabitwow the new "snap" or w/e option in bt3
21:50.29NimbleRabitis super nice
21:50.30Chompersattempt 5 on prince
21:50.38Chompersgrr
21:50.45CodayusHmmm
21:50.46CIA-2303laotseu * r36468 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua AllPlayed.toc):
21:50.46CIA-23AllPlayed:
21:50.46CIA-23- Merge for the branch
21:50.46CIA-23- TOC version 20100
21:50.46CIA-23- AllPlayed now detects if the BC expansion is installed
21:50.46CIA-23- Option to use the pre-2.1.0 patch colour for Shaman (because I don't like the new colour)
21:50.48CIA-23- /allplayed now call a dewdrop menu (I've stolen some code from Quartz, big thanks to Nymbia). I toyed with the idea of using Waterfall but in the end, I don't think AllPlayed would really benefit from using it.
21:50.55CodayusCellular doesn't seem to work.
21:51.13Antiarc|WorkI do like Mut because you can keep rupture up in between SnD refreshes and 5point envenoms
21:51.22Antiarc|WorkGives you some really nice continual damage between that and deadly.
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21:52.04kergothi love envenom, but i think i'll switch back to an evis build for a useful imp gouge while i work on getting some arena points.  at least respecs arent all that pricey
21:52.04kergothheh
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21:52.47CIA-2303archarodim * r36469 10Decursive/Decursive.toc:
21:52.47CIA-23Decursive:
21:52.47CIA-23- Updated Decursive.toc for 2.1.0 (20100)
21:53.33harldephinbah that's strange. my key binding for nQuestLog wasn't working before but now it is though i didn't change anything meanwhile
21:53.58NightHawkTheSanehmm
21:54.06NightHawkTheSanedamn, i havn't played my warrior in a while.
21:54.16NightHawkTheSaneI was just very shocked seeing a 1100 HS crit
21:54.18NightHawkTheSane(with a one hander)
21:54.19Arrowmasterwow dells come with way too much crap installed, time to burn an xp pro cd
21:54.52XuerianArrowmaster: this begs the question of why you are faced with a presumably new dell.
21:54.52PHL-Chuckis niagra working for anyone?
21:55.16harldephinPHL-Chuck: mine does
21:55.27ArrowmasterXuerian: $399 laptop for my mom
21:55.29NightHawkTheSanePHL-Chuck: yep
21:55.39XuerianArrowmaster: Good point.
21:56.11OminousPHL-Chuck: yea, whats wrong
21:56.34Antiarc|WorkHm. I'm putting together a combat fists build, and I can't decide if I want Imp Kick or 2 points in Vile Poisons for my last 2 points.
21:56.47NimbleRabitimp kick
21:56.50NimbleRabitIMP KICK
21:56.52NimbleRabitT_T
21:56.53Arrowmasteri swear some of this shit showing up in addremove programes looks like spyware
21:57.14Antiarc|Work12% additional poison/envenom damage, plus 24% dispel resist though!
21:57.29trhArrowmaster: 399$? that thing must be crap? ;)
21:57.36Borked|Raideranyone know what the new itemlvl of items from kazzak/doowwalker is?
21:58.04NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: imo imp kick is an amazing talent
21:58.11Antiarc|WorkYeah, I know it is. Hard choice :/
21:58.13NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: and who uses envenom in pvp lol
21:58.19sbuckknight: whats with the grey mana-bar?
21:58.27ckknightdead
21:58.40Antiarc|WorkI do both areas and heavy raiding, so...
21:58.49Antiarc|WorkThe sustained poison damage is attractive :/
21:58.55NimbleRabitoh
21:59.04NimbleRabitmeh, it's a tiny % of dmg
21:59.09NimbleRabitcompared to imp kick which is a big pvp upgrade
21:59.14Antiarc|Work12% increase on poisons is pretty significant
21:59.41NimbleRabithey link your build, out of curiosity
21:59.54Antiarc|WorkPlus, most kicks in PVP shut down heals, for which there isn't an alternate school for any class.
22:00.16Antiarc|Workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oeZMGEz0VzV0hRt is what I'm thinking at the moment. Considering imp gouge, but restealths in the arena are really rare.
22:00.21Adirellevhaarr: I just made some drycode about pet merging in Violation, could you take a look at it ? => http://ace.pastey.net/38193
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22:00.37NimbleRabitbrb doing arena
22:00.38vhaarrAdirelle: in a little while, cool
22:00.52AdirelleI'll test it in the meantime
22:01.04Arrowmastertrh: not really, T2080 intel core 2 duo 1gb ram 160gb hdd
22:01.49Arrowmasteractually i think it was $499 not $399
22:01.51BankZAny major problems?
22:02.50GagorianHmm. The new WAU apparently spontaneously deleted a few addons. Lost WhoLib at least
22:02.53[Ammo]Adirelle: one thing I notice, you forgot priest pet :p
22:03.09Adirellewell... I'm ignoring all unnamed pets
22:03.17trhArrowmaster: sounds nice
22:03.18[Ammo]and you should use: blah = del(blah)
22:03.26[Ammo]instead of just del(blah)
22:03.31trhArrowmaster: is the tft glaring or normal?
22:03.32[Ammo]because you need to nil out blah as well
22:04.11[Ammo]you can use 'not blah' instead of blah ~= true
22:04.15Prophh~wav
22:04.29purlwavplay will play .wav, apt-get install wavtools. xmms also supports .wav files
22:04.29Adirelle[Ammo]: about del, is it line 117 ? => I nil it on the next line
22:04.48[Ammo]Adirelle: it can be done on one line :p
22:05.08AdirelleI have to check if del supports 'true'
22:05.12Kaeltenok guys I just killed updaters that rely on descript.ion
22:05.24Adirellemy MergingInfo can contains either tables or true values
22:05.32Ominouskaelten: what?
22:05.37Arrowmastertrh: not sure seems normal
22:05.38[Ammo]Adirelle: hmm
22:05.44Adirelletables means "merge all this name", true mean "no merging needed"
22:05.56Arrowmastertrh: its an inspiron 6400
22:05.58Kaeltenthe website no longer generates latest.txts or the descript.ion
22:06.01[Ammo]comparing it to a boolean will give an error then
22:06.04[Ammo]won't it :)
22:06.10Ominousah
22:06.13Adirelledon't remember, it's drycode :p
22:06.39sbuckknight: dead? :o
22:06.46ckknightyes.
22:06.51GalkaIs there an addon out now that uses the new 2.1 feature to report what addon is using what memory?
22:06.51Adirelleor maybe should I find another solution
22:06.53sbui have grey mana-bars - and im pretty alive? :p
22:07.04sbu+mich
22:07.05AdirelleGalka: PerformanceFu does
22:07.06sbu+much
22:07.09sbumeeehh, need sleep :/
22:07.12trhArrowmaster: wasn't the 6400 more like a desktop-pc, with low battery runtime?
22:07.13GalkaThank you Adirelle!
22:07.15ckknightsbu: hrm...
22:07.26[dRaCo]noticed that one, too, ckk
22:07.33nevcairielckknight: i've had that too today, but pretty much ignored it :P
22:07.35ckknightPLAYER_ALIVE is bugged, then, I bet
22:07.36NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: improved sprint...?
22:07.42netcurseany author  of bigwigs bossmod?
22:07.44[dRaCo]mostly in BGs
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22:07.49Arrowmastertrh: no clue
22:07.58netcursehttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/raid/bigwigs-bossmods-updated/ this guy updated and i have no clue what to do
22:08.06[Ammo]delete it
22:08.16[Ammo]you have my permission
22:08.17kergothwoot, have a phone interview with montavista tomorrow
22:08.27[Ammo]that's directed at netcurse
22:08.30Tornhoofthose linux guys?
22:08.34Antiarc|WorkImp Sprint is rather meh, because it's going to be most useful when you don't have vanish or CloS, which isn't that often in arenas.
22:08.39Antiarc|WorkI'd rather have kick over sprint.
22:08.43netcurseok thanks ammo consider it done!
22:08.47kergothyea, embedded linux folks, do kernel work and distro work for companies building embedded linux devices
22:09.00Tornhoofgood luck
22:09.11Antiarc|WorkIf I were doing heavy BG or world PVP, I'd likely take imp sprint though.
22:09.13kergothi wish i could get imp kick in a 41/20 :\
22:09.13[Ammo]Adirelle: why not only fill mergedinfo when there is actually stuff to merge
22:09.15kergothTornhoof, thanks :)
22:09.23[Ammo]and merge the player with that automatically
22:09.31[Ammo]no need to add the player himself to mergedinfo table
22:09.42netcurseBTW if you guys didn t update yet curse, http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/ we are up and running and pulling 400 000 page views an hour :p
22:09.51Adirelleright
22:10.01[Ammo]hehe, will update tomorrow or something
22:10.07[Ammo]when my own servers are back
22:10.13vhaarrI'll update it later tonight.
22:10.19nevcairielyeah we are still running on 2.0 over here :P
22:10.26[Ammo]or vhaarr can do it later tonight ;)
22:10.30vhaarr[Ammo]: If you're reviewing Adirelle's patch, could you please tell me so I don't waste the time doing the same thing?
22:10.40[Ammo]I was reviewing
22:10.43[Ammo]and spewing comments
22:10.44vhaarrthen fucking tell me
22:10.45vhaarr:(
22:10.47NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: are you high rated?
22:11.03[Ammo]haha
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22:11.14AdirelleI beg you to remember it is drycode, I'm waiting comments to updating the modules
22:11.20Antiarc|WorkHeh, not really, no. We have the potential, but half our team is pity cases that tends to drag the rating down.
22:11.23Adirelle(tho their is no major update to do)
22:11.35NimbleRabitheh
22:11.37PHL-ChuckI get this error when trying to use niagara http://ace.pastey.net/38201
22:11.41vhaarrAdirelle: Let me know when you're done with Ammos comments and I'll review it then.
22:11.42sbuckknight: but its only mana bar, hp bar is fine
22:11.44Antiarc|WorkWe tend to hang out in the 1800ish range, but I think we could break 2k really easily if we dropped the weaker elements.
22:11.47NimbleRabitwell if you want my opinion I think your dead wrong about imp sprint, just my opinion though
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22:11.56NimbleRabitall about playstyle I guess
22:12.09NimbleRabitI respecced back to combat just for that talent =D
22:12.09[Ammo]Adirelle: well there's a mod version update
22:12.18Adirelle[Ammo] not really
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22:12.20[Ammo]Adirelle: so make sure you bump the version up a notch
22:12.24Saint-Nman i wish Monk Form made it into this patch ;P
22:12.24[Ammo]yes the API changes
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22:12.27[Ammo]with your code
22:12.27kergothwould be nice if curse download pages didnt have links to downloads on servers which are 404's
22:12.32Antiarc|WorkYeah. I certainly see the value of a snare break, and I enjoyed it when I had it, but it's situational enough that I'm not sure I'd want to drop 2 points into it.
22:12.49kergothah thats better, had to reload
22:12.52Adirelle[Ammo] a default merging is provided in moduleprototype
22:13.04Adirellewell... this is a minor API change
22:13.05[Ammo]hmm
22:13.07CIA-2303durcyn * r36470 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc: FuBar_tcgTradeskills: version bump. bump.
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22:13.13Saint-Nwhat would make cure awesome is if they didnt have crappy code and stupid ad links bagging the page load down and just had a nice happy link to "downloads" sorted by type ;P
22:13.15CIA-2303ckknight * r36471 10PitBull/Power/Power.lua: PitBull_Power - don't turn gray when dead, events are buggy.
22:13.23Saint-Ncurse rather
22:13.31Adirelleand if the module doesn't set "canMergeData", nothing will be done
22:13.32CIA-2303ominous * r36472 10PoisonMenu/PoisonMenu.toc: PoisonMenu: toc
22:13.35NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: well I guess I think it's important mostly because the team I play most is druid/rogue
22:13.41NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: and with no dispell or freedom =/
22:13.59[Ammo]Adirelle: it looks decent enough
22:13.59AdirelleI feel that some module should NOT merge data (critical hit % per exemple)
22:14.05[Ammo]yeah
22:14.26Antiarc|WorkMakes sense. I tend to run mage/rogue in 2v2, so we rely very heavily on CC and the mage has my target slowed nearly all the time.
22:14.44Adirellethe ugliest thing is at line 148
22:14.45Antiarc|WorkI also tend to heavily abuse deadly throw :x
22:15.32Adirellemaybe should I just erase mergedData content with for n in pairs(t) do t[n] = nil end
22:15.40Angry_Dwarfctd #2 ><
22:15.46CIA-2303ominous * r36473 10FuBar_PoisonReminderFu/FuBar_PoisonReminderFu.toc: FuBar_PoisonReminderFu: toc
22:16.01Antiarc|WorkAngry_Dwarf: Try nuking your cache/data/<locale> dir's contents
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22:16.55CIA-2303ominous * r36474 10Niagara/Niagara.toc: Niagara: toc
22:17.07Angry_Dwarfwill give it a shot
22:18.53Prophh~wau
22:19.05purl[wau] WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.
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22:20.27rubikhow does wau handle svn co/up-ed addons? skips em?
22:20.40break19where did FuBar_ClassTimersFu go?
22:20.42Ominousyes it skips svn working copys
22:20.47Ominousbreak19: ClassTimer
22:20.52break19k
22:21.17Ominousbreak19: would love your opinion about which parts of the menu need to be per group and which parts globalk
22:21.33NimbleRabitthe new arena is...odd
22:21.41break19ominous kk, lemme use it a few days etc etc
22:21.44Saint-Nhow so?
22:21.45Ominousya
22:22.26Ominouswhats the website to get the interface data from again
22:22.36Stylpeckknight: Still can't get Cartographer_Waypoints:SetPointAsWaypoint( to work
22:22.43Antiarc|WorkThe big pedestal in the middle is interesting.
22:22.44ckknightI'm busy.
22:22.46ckknightit works, I know it does
22:22.49ckknightyou're doing it wrong
22:22.57StylpeIt only works if there's already another waypoint
22:23.01Antiarc|WorkI've found that casters like the hang out up there, which makes them easy pickings if you're patient
22:23.10break19Stylpe: embedded module, or as a separate addon?
22:23.19StylpeSeparate
22:23.26break19kk, that throws that out then
22:23.49Stylpeckknight: np, take your time =)
22:24.21Kaeltenpeople must have took me serious about updating we're still downloading 5megs a sec
22:24.26Antiarc|Workwow.
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22:24.45*** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater | 2.1 Goes live 22 May
22:25.06OminousKaelthen: you can probs remove the 2.1 warning oto
22:25.15CodayusDid something change with CHAT_MSG_WHISPER in 2.1?
22:25.24*** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater also available through the old updaters
22:25.25vhaarrag`: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6180
22:25.37KaeltenI made it so 1.7 can download 1.8 for you
22:26.06Ominouswhats the website to get the interface data from again
22:26.09Funkeh`i thought you were not going to do that ebcause of security reasons
22:28.13Adirellehmm... if T = {3, 4} would func(x, y, unpack(T))  do what I think ? (i.e. func(x, y, 3, 4))
22:29.37Ominousyes
22:30.55ChompersSaroz : are you about?
22:31.12Ominoushmmm if i have an escilated gm ticket then gm tockets become unavailable does that mean my ticket will have been lost
22:31.35Antiarc|Work> t = {1,2,3}; > function foo(...) print(...) end; > foo(unpack(t)); 1       2       3
22:32.40Ominousthat probs isnt the best example tho :P as it could be printing the index or the value if you wernt sure what unpack returned :P
22:33.18Antiarc|WorkWell, that print syntax is lua saying "I got multiple return values
22:33.33Antiarc|Workprint(1,2,3) returns the same thing.
22:33.33kergothAntiarc|Work, he's pointing out that your 't' table there has keys that are the same as the values
22:33.39kergothand as such is a bad example
22:33.41Antiarc|WorkOh, heh
22:33.50kergoth:)
22:34.02Antiarc|Work> t = {3,2,1}; > foo(unpack(t)); 3       2       1
22:34.03sdoubleyeah, a,b,c would be better used
22:34.37Adirelledamn, I miss keys(array) :/
22:34.39BankZso any major addins haaving probs?
22:34.43sbuhaha gm tickets, some gm told me to create a new ticket ("will be answered within 1 minute")
22:34.49Daemonawts 2k int flask -> http://tinyurl.com/2vfspt
22:34.50Antiarc|WorkSanity's borked, though I dunno that you'd call that major :P
22:34.51sbuwell 2h later still no answer and ticketing disabled
22:38.23Adirellegrmpf, is it too ugly ? http://ace.pastey.net/38233
22:38.24CIA-2303ckknight * r36475 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua:
22:38.24CIA-23Cartographer_LookNFeel - using _massive_ haxoring, the frames which are normally
22:38.24CIA-23on the WorldMapFrame are split into two parts: overlay and non-overlay, and put
22:38.24CIA-23on separate alphas. This makes it so that WorldMapFrame has no children or
22:38.24CIA-23regions, as they are :SetParent'd to Cartographer_LookNFeel.overlayHolder or
22:38.26CIA-23.nonOverlayHolder.
22:38.34ckknightCartographer fixed.
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22:38.39ckknightAntiarc|Work: ^---
22:38.53Wixithanks for the fix ckk!
22:39.00Antiarc|WorkThanks, ck! I let my buddy know.
22:39.00Wixii was starting to cry :)
22:39.38Kyrinckknight: thx much, cartographer rules my guild
22:40.00ckknighthooray for pants!
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22:40.35ckknightalright, gotta go to work
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22:40.48Antiarc|WorkDaemona: Check out that pally's +heal
22:40.55Antiarc|WorkAnd crit chance!
22:41.01DaemonaAntiarc|Work -> http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2994/76190868lm8.jpg
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22:41.32Xuerianholy fuck.
22:41.35Antiarc|WorkAre all wisdom flasks bugged or something?
22:41.43Antiarc|WorkOr is that one just a bizarre-as-hell fluke?
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22:42.04KaeltenXuerian: huh?
22:42.05Daemonai'd guess wisdom flask taken and logged out over patch is the fluke
22:42.08Xuerian+2525 healing? 60-70 is a +1500 in max attainable?
22:42.10Xueriangeez
22:42.23Kaeltengeez
22:42.24XuerianKaelten: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2994/76190868lm8.jpg
22:42.25DaemonaKaelten, Xuerian reffered to -> http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2994/76190868lm8.jpg
22:42.53Kaeltengeez
22:43.07Xueriana 7k crit heal.
22:43.08NightHawkTheSaneo_0
22:43.19Xuerianhalf of the time
22:43.26Adirelle[Ammo] I got another version of the patch for your pleasure :p
22:45.01NightHawkTheSaneThat's got to be some kind of a bug. did you see that int?
22:45.33Xuerianyeah.... just...saw that.
22:45.36Xuerianwtf? 0.o
22:45.41NightHawkTheSaneand check out his mana pool :P
22:45.51CIA-2303aznamir * r36476 10PallyPower/PallyPower.toc:
22:45.51CIA-23PallyPower:
22:45.51CIA-23- .toc update for 2.1 patch
22:46.00NightHawkTheSanefuck illumination, its not like he'd use all that anyway.
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22:46.28Dae`RaukoYo, question guys
22:46.43Dae`RaukoDid the patch screwup the modz
22:46.55NightHawkTheSaneno.
22:47.26NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: the thing in the middle is much nicer than bridges with stupid pillars lol
22:47.36Antiarc|WorkOh, I 100% agree
22:47.39Antiarc|WorkAgain, hunters can DIAF.
22:47.41NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: so far life as a rogue is way better 2.1, me and my 2v2 just won 7 straight games
22:47.42Antiarc|WorkStupid frost traps.
22:47.50Antiarc|WorkNice! What's making the difference?
22:47.52kergothNimbleRabit, nice
22:47.58NimbleRabitimp sap
22:48.00NimbleRabitand umm
22:48.03NimbleRabitupgraded gear
22:48.04Antiarc|WorkI'm really looking forward to benchmarking PVE DPS against our resident uberlock/shadow priest combo
22:48.21Antiarc|WorkI logged in a bit ago and gained over 150 AP, 1.3% crit, and like 40 +hit.
22:48.23Antiarc|WorkIt's nice. :D
22:48.24NimbleRabitimp sap is the biggest difference
22:48.28NimbleRabitit's just so good
22:48.35NimbleRabitor, not losing stealth on sap
22:48.36NimbleRabitw/e
22:48.41NightHawkTheSanewell it was good before
22:48.42Antiarc|Workyeah,
22:48.52Antiarc|WorkI am REALLY looking forward to abusing that liberally
22:48.56Xuerianhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Agamaggan&n=Niu
22:48.56NightHawkTheSanewhat's good what you get with the extra 7 points :P
22:48.59Antiarc|WorkThough I expect arena teams to become seriously more paranoid.
22:49.02NimbleRabitNightHawkTheSane: lots of stuff
22:49.12NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: the other thing is this map is way way way better
22:49.20NimbleRabitwaywaywwyaywayway
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22:49.41kergothhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Arathor&n=Zebrin - meh, i need more +crit rating to pull off mutilate well :\
22:50.28Ominouskergoth: i have ~22 and its fine
22:50.28kergothhmm, cool
22:50.28XuerianDaemona: Logging out with the pot, does that mean it's sticky or what?
22:50.29Xuerianer
22:50.29Xuerianwell, over patch
22:50.55Adirellevhaarr, [Ammo]: I'll post the new Violation patch onto the forum
22:51.27NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: god I'm abusing sap like crazy now
22:51.35Antiarc|WorkI am so looking forward to it :D
22:51.47Antiarc|WorkEnjoy it before people start spamming rank 1 AEs and flares and crap out of paranoia
22:51.54NimbleRabitI'm blowing saps on warriors in hopes they aren't in berserker stance
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22:52.02NimbleRabitgetting lucky every once in a while
22:52.04Antiarc|WorkNo reason not to.
22:52.10NimbleRabitexactly lol, I love it
22:52.47NimbleRabitjust to be sure, to update aguf for patch get ace2 and aguf right?
22:52.48NimbleRabitshould work fine?
22:53.01NimbleRabitI just had 4 (literally) people whisper me saying their unitframes are gone
22:53.21Aiianemy apologies if this has been asked before, but has anyone had any issues with WUU not wanting to update Curse addons?
22:53.25Aiiane*recent issues
22:54.04snurrehttp://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/money/article_1702706.php?referrer=digg o.O
22:55.58XuerianAiiane
22:55.59Xuerian..
22:56.01Xuerianwuu?
22:56.02XuerianCurse?
22:56.11XuerianYou... do.. know what channel this is, right? >.>
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22:56.39NimbleRabitlol
22:56.53NimbleRabitthis is a channel full of reasonably intelligent people
22:57.00NimbleRabitthat are savvy in the addon scene
22:57.00kergothsince when?
22:57.01kergoth;)
22:57.13hyperChipmunkand also nymbia
22:57.23XuerianForgive nimblerabit, for the furry creature knows not of what it speaks
22:57.39NimbleRabitnymbia: Hey I'm having a wierd issue with tattle
22:57.42AiianeXuerian: there's a reason 90% of my addons aren't from curse :P but a few are, and wuu is faster than checking each page manually :P
22:57.48Adirellenight
22:57.56NimbleRabitAiiane: I have been having no problems fyi
22:58.00Aiianekk
22:59.16NimbleRabitbasically tattle seems to be discriminating
22:59.16XuerianAiiane: I was joking, and that was my way of saying "I've never used WUU and avoid curse on a personal level" ;P
22:59.16kergothyou know.. leveling jc without having a high level miner is a real pain in the ass :)
22:59.16DaemonaAiiane you know what? add those addons to your favourites and syndicate it via xml feed :D
22:59.16kergothhrmph
22:59.16Kaeltenalhtough I think wuu will not work for wowace addons anymore.
22:59.16NimbleRabitDaemona: why does that sound hard lol
22:59.16Aiianejust keep getting "2007-05-22 18:46:48: (WARN) Could not find addon update date on page - is site ID correct?"
22:59.16NimbleRabitit works for me kaelten
22:59.16AiianeKaelten: seems to be working fine atm
22:59.17Aiianefor wowace
22:59.17CIA-2303Tristan * r36477 10ShammySpy/ (Data.lua Frames.lua):
22:59.17CIA-23ShammySpy:
22:59.17CIA-23- Corrected timer on Fire Nova Totem
22:59.17Kaeltenlike in the last half hour?
22:59.17KyrinAiiane: I avoid curse, wowinterface meets my minimal, non-Ace, needs and it's in lite mode on patch day, so Yay!
22:59.17Aiianekael - um, last hour, couldnt say 30 mins
22:59.17NimbleRabitcurse = dotimer
22:59.17NimbleRabitand that's it
22:59.17Kaeltenactually curse has been fairly snappy for a patch day
22:59.20Aiianebut i just checked, Kaelten
22:59.22KaeltenI killed all updaters that need descript.ion today
22:59.24AiianeNiagara updates fine
22:59.38Kaeltenmaybe wuu uses the xml file by now
22:59.52Kaeltenbut if not the next time it updates the .ion file it'll not able able to continue
23:00.21Aiianehas WAU had any recent updates, btw? i hadnt heard of any but one can always be hopeful
23:00.23NimbleRabitthere was a wuu update just yesterday
23:00.38HjalteI updated with WUU 10 seconds ago
23:00.47Aiianei just reinstalled it today, NimbleRabit
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23:01.09a-stray-cat~wau
23:01.22purlwau is, like, WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.
23:01.22NimbleRabitAiiane: my brother informs me his WUU isn't working with only some curse addons, mine works fine with the only one I have though
23:01.32AiianeNimbleRabit: k
23:01.38Hjalte~wuu
23:01.40purlwuu is, like, WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automatically from WoWAce, WoWI, UIWoW, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/
23:01.43Daemona~emulate purl
23:01.45purlACTION tries to look like herself.
23:01.53NimbleRabitpurl be wrong, it doesn't work with UIWoW
23:02.00Aiianeat least, not anymore
23:02.00Kaelten1.8
23:02.02Kaeltennimble cool maybe he's ing the new pages
23:02.09Funkeh`1.8.23.218
23:02.15Funkeh`how random version number is that
23:02.44CIA-2303funkydude * r36478 10Baggins/Baggins.toc: Baggins: toc > 20100
23:02.45NimbleRabitAiiane: oh crap I was wrong, it worked yestrday but it actually can't seem to get the online version today
23:02.49NeoTronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104567284&sid=1 scares me. a lot
23:03.04NeoTronas much as wow has been buggy it has never had serious item loss issues
23:03.09evlwookiethey are fixing it right now
23:03.13evlwookierolling restarts on all realms
23:03.14NimbleRabitAiiane: unless I manually check the version for it addon by addon
23:03.14Gngskrolling restarts for all realms
23:03.18NeoTronah cool
23:03.26NeoTronbenefit of not logging on until later
23:03.32NeoTrongood thing they could figure it out fast
23:03.44evlwookiegood thing my server was down for extended maint
23:04.00Gngsksame
23:04.09Gngskour battlegroup rox!
23:04.24evlwookiehate my server lol
23:06.25CIA-2303funkydude * r36479 10eePanels/ (. eePanels.toc): eePanels: toc > 20100
23:06.25Dae`RaukoMY SERVER IS STILL DOWN >.<
23:06.25Gngskvindication ftw
23:06.25evlwookiewonder if the extended maint ones will be up after the rolling restarts
23:06.25kenlyricwe wil have our ... vindication!
23:06.25snurremy server is up.. i think.. hm.. i dunno and i dont care.. :p
23:06.25Arrowmastermine too =(
23:06.26XuerianDae`Rauko: My thoughts exactly. What restarts, it's not even up yet!
23:06.26SHIFT_nismomy server still down too
23:06.33Arrowmastervindication ftl
23:06.37kenlyrici guess now is a good time to explore a pvp server.
23:06.39Gngskwin
23:07.10Arrowmasterhow many people here are on vindication ?
23:07.21evlwookiethink im on ruin
23:07.30NightHawkTheSanei have no idea what battlegroup i'm in...
23:07.42CIA-2303funkydude * r36480 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.toc: ElkBuffBars: toc > 20100
23:07.58kenlyriclook y0ourself up on the armory.
23:08.21NightHawkTheSaneoh hey, yeah i'm in vindication.
23:08.33NightHawkTheSane(laughing skull)
23:08.51Arrowmasterlol so many from vindication
23:08.59evlwookielol damn
23:09.26Aiianestormstrike ftw :P
23:09.39NightHawkTheSanei should pvp more, you guys could totally kick my ass :P
23:09.39evlwookieruin ftl, big time
23:09.41kenlyricobviously... the people from other battlegroups are actually playing, not dicking around on irc :)
23:09.48AiianeNimbleRabit: what siteid are you using
23:09.51NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: zing.
23:10.09kenlyricjoining a recommended server is a bad idea, right? :)
23:10.12NimbleRabit3260/dotimer
23:10.18CIA-2303funkydude * r36481 10Links/ (. Links.toc): Links: toc 20100
23:10.23CIA-2303nymbia * r36482 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua:
23:10.23CIA-23.AceEvent-2.0:
23:10.23CIA-23- Revert to 32527, with some added checks to ensure that revs 33121-36174 are upgraded from correctly, and more recent optimizations/bugfixes included.
23:10.24CIA-23- Tested a number of different upgrade scenarios, however, users who upgrade with a path like 30806 -> 33858 -> (this) will continue to be in dire need of updating (and should still be getting a popup telling them so)
23:10.26CIA-23- If anything breaks when it shouldn't (ie, with a sane upgrade path), please let me know.
23:10.59NightHawkTheSanenymbia: jesus.
23:11.06Funkeh`nymbia: why revert that much?
23:11.09Funkeh`sometihng borken?
23:11.35nymbiaFunkeh`: the bigger reason is that the old one performs better
23:11.45Funkeh`:o
23:11.49NimbleRabitnerf tattle
23:11.51Funkeh`wtf was added to slow it down? :P
23:11.59NimbleRabitJust owned up a 2v2 because I knew the mage was pom/pyro
23:12.04NimbleRabitthis addon is haxxor
23:12.17rubikhaha
23:12.18Aiianewhat, arenamaster?
23:12.23rubik(tattle)
23:12.27Aiianeah
23:12.41Funkeh`nymbia: also make sure that revision doesn't have the 'you have libs installed and have innacurate cpu results' message
23:12.47nymbiaFunkeh`: some changes were made that were supposed to make it work better with CPU profiling, but the blizzy code didn't cooperate
23:12.54nymbiaFunkeh`: it doesnt ;)
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23:12.59Funkeh`gg :/
23:13.03NightHawkTheSanenymbia: oh, toying around with quartz on my warrior, i noticed devastate wasn't refreshing the timer on sunder. I'm assuming this is just blizzard's usual stellar coding and not quartz borking up?
23:13.06evlwookiewow tattle seems sweet
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23:13.18NimbleRabitevlwookie: it is
23:13.19vhaarrFunkeh`: I moved that to PerfFu.
23:13.31ZealotOnAStickWill that fix the "Never show this message again" message showing up every fucking login?
23:13.34NimbleRabitevlwookie: just be sure to change the local_database thing to like 3000 lol, just in case
23:13.39evlwookielol
23:13.40Diaowait
23:13.45Diaoatlasloot is now wowace but not atlas itself? o_O
23:13.56sbuhttp://files.filefront.com/Doomwalker_5-man.avi/;7528478;/fileinfo.html <-- this is soo sick
23:13.57nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: hrm, well it pulls directly from the blizzy infos, but it may not be re-checking the aura durations there, right?
23:14.04Hjaltethey are not developed by the same person, diao
23:14.13Diaoi know
23:14.17nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: since no target debuffs actually get added or removed?
23:14.29Diaoi thought they were both converting though
23:14.34Hjaltediao, and besides, only parts of atlasloot are ace'd, as far as i understood.
23:14.41NightHawkTheSanenymbia: right. devastate doesn't add/remove any debuffs, just refreshes the duration of an existing sunder stack
23:15.15snurrehttp://www.drublair.com/comersus/store/workshops/tica.htm yikes
23:15.22Diaohow do you ace only part of an addon
23:15.28nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: what do you think it should do?  recheck the duration on current tracked debuffs every couple seconds, or attempt to watch for abilities that may refresh stacks?
23:15.44trhDiao: by using ace only in a part of an addon?
23:15.49kenlyricanyone got recommendations for pvp server? I'm a noob, I'll be easy to gank!
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23:15.51dottedDiao Atlas2 will be (partly) Ace2 and thats in alphe stage atm
23:16.14CIA-2303funkydude * r36483 10SimpleCombatLog/ (. SimpleCombatLog.toc): SimpleCombatLog: toc 20100
23:16.46Hjaltekenlyric, if you're eu alliance, don't go dunemaul. it's dead.
23:16.57Kyrinkenlyric: do you know what Penny-Arcade is?
23:16.58KemayoAww, how... cute?  AtlasLoot is on SVN and has its own locally committed versions of all its externals.
23:17.03kenlyricoh GOD
23:17.05NightHawkTheSanenymbia: not sure. Checking for specific abilities that will refresh stacks may be faster, but I can think of a lot of situations where that might occur.
23:17.05Kemayo(http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AtlasLoot/Libraries)
23:17.06kenlyricnot dark iron!
23:17.10Kyrin:P
23:17.15kenlyriceveryone on kargath fled from dark iron :)
23:17.29NightHawkTheSanenymbia: (I imagine any ability that applies a stacking buff/debuff will have this issue once the stack reaches max capacity?)
23:17.35kenlyricI get can stab gabe, that would be awesome.
23:17.36Kyrinall the horde I assume :P
23:17.43Wixiis there a problem with WAU atm?
23:17.56KyrinWixi: read topic
23:18.03Diaothere's no combat log event when it's maxed nymbia?
23:18.19CIA-2303Tristan * r36484 10ShammySpy/ShammySpy.lua:
23:18.19CIA-23ShammySpy:
23:18.19CIA-23- Corrected Searing Totem
23:18.25NightHawkTheSaneDiao: nope. that's been a long standing issue, too.
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23:18.34Diaohm
23:18.36Wixioops :)
23:18.38nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: indeed.
23:18.47nymbiaDiao: unfortunately, no.
23:19.30NightHawkTheSanechecking tracked buffs/debuffs every 1-2 seconds might be the only way to handle it.
23:19.33Aiianenow all we need is a better way for addons that generate large db's of itemid's to reference them ><
23:19.45Diaoask slouken to add it in as an event?
23:20.13hyperChipmunk375 eng!
23:20.25hyperChipmunkno...nooo =\ the gun needs nether too
23:20.31CIA-2303funkydude * r36485 10TinyTipOptions/ (. TinyTipOptions.toc): TinyTipOptions: toc 20100
23:20.33hyperChipmunk>8*(
23:20.33NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: grats. also *points and laughs*
23:20.36Kyrinheh
23:20.36Diaolol
23:20.37Diaograts hyperChipmunk
23:20.38hyperChipmunki had everything
23:20.44Diaobuy the nether
23:20.44hyperChipmunkall lined up
23:20.46Diaowith heroic badges!
23:20.48CIA-2303funkydude * r36486 10TinyTipExtras/ (. TinyTipExtras.toc): TinyTipExtras: toc 20100
23:20.48CIA-2303funkydude * r36488 10TinyTip/TinyTip.toc: TinyTip: toc 20100
23:20.49CIA-2303funkydude * r36487 10VersionChecker/VersionChecker.toc: VersionChecker: toc 20100
23:21.03hyperChipmunki don't have any heroic instances; i do dungeons with just two other people
23:21.07Diao:(
23:21.14Diaowhat class?
23:21.19NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: make two friends. :\
23:21.20Diaocause heroic mech is ridiculously easy
23:21.28NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: or, run normal instances, and pray very very hard.
23:21.29Diaoyou can get 5 badges no effort
23:21.57hyperChipmunkwe have trouble with normal mech =\
23:22.10DiaoD:
23:22.16Diaosome instances are easier in heroic than regular tbh
23:22.19NightHawkTheSanedo you three man it?
23:22.30Diaoas long as you have CC
23:22.30hyperChipmunkyea
23:22.30Kyrini've actually had nether's drop 3/5 times I ran regular SL
23:22.39Kyrini know i'm in the minority on that though
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23:22.54CIA-2303rabbit * r36489 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Remove compat code.
23:23.10trhKyrin: made about 5 sl runs, not a single drop =)
23:23.12Aiianeheh... curse just went 503
23:23.13NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: make two friends of the right classes. ;)
23:23.39NimbleRabitI'm hoping people will take me to heroics now
23:23.43NimbleRabitsince I can sap better
23:24.18trha skilled rogue is ok in heroics, even without sap
23:24.22Funkeh`you still need skill
23:24.22MaranathaTXany eta on untiframe bars getting fixed when wapping forms..ie druids switching between forms in combat and bars not flipping?
23:24.27toddgo 1/2 imp sap... "Do you have imp sap?" "Sometimes."
23:24.29todd:D
23:24.31CIA-2303totalpackage * r36490 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):
23:24.31CIA-23Cellular
23:24.32CIA-23- nil bug fix in case SpamSentry or something that hooks CHAT_MSG_WHISPER() is installed.
23:24.44Diaowait
23:24.46Diaowhat imp sap
23:24.49deltronhmm
23:24.50Diaoall rogues get imp sap as of 2.1
23:24.51Diao;)
23:25.00deltroni think it was a bad idea to update all mods :P
23:25.04todd<-- plays a mage and priest
23:25.04hyperChipmunkNightHawkTheSane: we LIKE doing it with 3 though =P
23:25.09toddso yeah, I wouldn't know
23:25.10todd:P
23:25.29NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: so continue doing normals with 3, go you! but make two friends to do heroics with :P
23:26.15hyperChipmunkhm
23:26.28hyperChipmunkdoes lieutenant drake in heroic drop them?
23:26.35NightHawkTheSaneyep
23:26.36break19ominous disappeared?
23:26.37CIA-2303sorren * r36491 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers.lua:
23:26.37CIA-23SorrenTimers:
23:26.37CIA-23- Fix diminishing returns showing on mobs where it shouldn't
23:26.37CIA-23- Fix some nil errors
23:26.40hyperChipmunksweet
23:26.43binderhow can someone have a netherdrake already?
23:26.43hyperChipmunkhe's soloable
23:26.45hyperChipmunkjust need the rep
23:26.51KyrinI can't believe one of my mates already has his stupid drake
23:26.56Daemonabinder you cant
23:26.57NightHawkTheSaneevery boss in every heroic drops badges, and the gatekeepers in heroic mech do as well
23:26.57nymbiabinder: it's a bug with a quest
23:26.58hyperChipmunkoh it's bugged
23:27.01hyperChipmunkeveryone can get it
23:27.04NimbleRabitDaemona: oh yes you can
23:27.05toddhow :o
23:27.13NimbleRabitDaemona: I've seen quiet a few on my server
23:27.14kenlyricthey didn't fix the bug?
23:27.14Daemonaonly way is you get a polymorph effect while doing the quests
23:27.17Daemona...
23:27.18kenlyricwhat's the bug? :)
23:27.19nymbiabinder: it sticks you on one for a 'tour' thing, sometimes you stay on after it ends
23:27.21Daemonaseems not kenlyric
23:27.25TecnoBrat~wau
23:27.28purlextra, extra, read all about it, wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.
23:27.29kenlyricis that the fake netherdrake disguise?
23:27.43Daemonayes
23:28.03Daemonaas the quests are on a daily cooldown (10 quests a day or so) you wont see real netherdrakes soon
23:28.10deltronI broke WAU
23:28.12deltronwoo
23:28.13NimbleRabitso I missed it
23:28.15NimbleRabitwhat are the restarts for
23:28.24deltronmissing items
23:28.25abyssichateto fix items disappearing
23:28.27kenlyricthey are for giving me a pvp server :)
23:28.29Daemonafixing item issues?
23:28.42Daemonahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104507644&pageNo=2&sid=1#22
23:28.45kergothhyperChipmunk, soloable? damn, i need to level my hunter :)
23:28.45NimbleRabitoh wow items were missing?
23:28.47NimbleRabitthat's lame
23:29.02hyperChipmunkkergoth: stuff in slave pens too
23:29.13hyperChipmunkdrake is easy though
23:29.20hyperChipmunkit's just pure patience and immo traps
23:29.33TecnoBratdeltron, how'd you break it?
23:29.34hyperChipmunka lOOOOOOOOOOt of patience
23:29.41KarlThePaganand lots of terrain exploiting
23:29.48hyperChipmunkno, he's slow
23:29.55hyperChipmunkyou just run around the outside of the keep
23:30.07deltronTecnoBrat: hit F10, say no, then hit F5
23:30.18deltronactually
23:30.18hyperChipmunkwell, slower than cheetah anyway
23:30.18trhhyperChipmunk: no one, really no one wants to spend 2 hours to kill one (!) heroic boss =)
23:30.23deltronjust hitting F5 breaks it
23:30.25kenlyriccoll,e verything's broken :)
23:30.35NightHawkTheSanetrh: hyperChipmunk is apparently very patient. :P
23:30.50hyperChipmunkmennu is kitable too
23:30.55rubikyou talking about that hunter that soloes the 1st boss in heroic OH?
23:31.10trhbtw: there's a video of a warlock soloing slave pens heroic
23:31.19hyperChipmunkrubik: i do that
23:31.22kenlyricbattle stance is wery wery large.
23:31.32hyperChipmunkwell, on normal
23:31.35Gngskit's so large because it's so important
23:31.36hyperChipmunkbut it's no different
23:31.46hyperChipmunkif i had the rep, i'd do it heroic
23:31.58rubikhttp://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=36806 (hunter on heroic 1st OH boss)
23:32.05rubikit's linked at wowhead entry
23:32.12rubiki was like.. O_o
23:32.28CIA-2303rabbit * r36492 10Detox/ (Detox.lua Detox.toc): Detox: Some cleanups and interface bump.
23:32.42Kyrinwee... wowinterface.com down too?
23:33.02Gnarfozyay for Tattle data in the LFM frame! :D
23:33.13Funkeh`'too' ?
23:33.18Funkeh`both curse and wowi work for me
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23:33.27nymbiaGnarfoz: orly?  howso?
23:33.29Gnarfozno more whispering dense people to find out what they are specced for
23:33.45Gnarfoznymbia: just haxed it together :D
23:33.46Kyrincan't establish a connection to the server at www.wowinterface.com
23:33.50nymbiaGnarfoz: hot
23:33.54GnarfozI'm on EU, tho, so it's with 2.0 code
23:33.58NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: thats neat.
23:34.14Gnarfozgonna re-do it later with 2.1 blizz code, and show it around so people can pick it apart and do it right :D
23:34.23Gnarfozperhaps it'll just work this way, tho :D
23:34.24hyperChipmunkrubik: bah, i thought i was unique
23:34.30Gnarfozgonna see about that, later, then ^^
23:34.44rubikhaha.. you are.. you're doing it on non-heroic. :P
23:34.56NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: you are not a unique and special snowflake.
23:35.09kergothlol
23:35.12hyperChipmunki still bet i was first!
23:35.15hyperChipmunkso nyaaaah
23:35.21GnarfozI fear I'm tainting the UI all over the place, because I'm replacing two Blizzard functions on the way
23:35.34CIA-2303murazorz * r36493 10ColaMachine/ColaMachine.toc:
23:35.34CIA-23ColaMachine:
23:35.34CIA-23<PROTECTED>
23:35.38Josh_BorkeGnarfoz: if it doesn't break, what's the big deal?
23:35.48GnarfozJosh_Borke: heh, good point
23:36.01Josh_BorkeGnarfoz: be responsive to any complaints that come up
23:36.05hyperChipmunkthat's the spirit
23:36.19Josh_Borkeyou're delaying the release of a potentially useful addon because you don't get a warm  fuzzy
23:36.30Josh_Borkeit's not like you're going to release something that you KNOW is going to break stuff
23:36.33Gnarfozheh
23:36.39Gnarfozright now? it would. :D
23:36.43kergothwhat addon is this?
23:36.44Gnarfozbecause I'm still on 2.0 ;)
23:36.46CIA-2303murazorz * r36494 10ColaLight/ColaLight.toc:
23:36.46CIA-23ColaLight:
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23:36.48hyperChipmunkyea, i totally never do that
23:36.50Josh_Borkei think as long as it doesn't break anything that you currently use then it should be fine
23:36.54Aiianei love the people on my realm's trade chat yelling "if it's not broke don't fix it" when they see server restart messages
23:37.09Aiianeyep, items disappearing is definitely not broken
23:37.17Gnarfozkergoth: using Tattle data in the LFM frame to show people's specs
23:37.18Josh_Borkeitems disappearing?
23:37.19Josh_Borkethat's bad
23:37.24hyperChipmunknot as long as they're somebody else's items
23:37.26kergothah
23:37.31Josh_Borkelol hyper
23:37.31hyperChipmunkscrew those guys
23:37.34kergothGnarfoz, thats sweet
23:37.37Josh_Borkeor they randomly show up in your bags? ;-)
23:37.43Aiianelooks like most chat mods are broken
23:37.58Aiianewell, nvm
23:38.00hyperChipmunki was kinda wondering where some of my eternium went
23:38.10hyperChipmunki could have sworn i had some
23:38.23Gnarfozhungry pet?
23:38.36hyperChipmunkthen i got d/c'ed and came back; and a few minutes later i went to use it and it wasn't there =P
23:39.32kenlyricneat, 46 errors on startup.
23:39.35Arrowmastergrr vindication is still down
23:40.20Funkeh`ckknight: ping
23:40.48break19uhm. why is my map not opening? using cartographer.. makes the sound, like it did.. but no map..
23:41.05Funkeh`update
23:41.22break19again? updated like an hour ago. :)
23:41.24hyperChipmunkshift-mousewheel
23:41.27NightHawkTheSanebreak19: alpha issue, update again
23:41.29hyperChipmunkit's just transparent
23:41.30break19kk
23:41.43kenlyricdon't forget to load out of date addons, some of the libs haven't been touched for correct version number.
23:41.57break19kenlyric: always :p
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23:42.15Funkeh`kenlyric: im pretty sure i did them all
23:42.32mjcstupid server downtime :P
23:42.40kenlyricnope.
23:42.51break19whats the lightest vendor price mod, that comes with a known library? and it supported by garbagefu ?
23:42.51Kaeltencan anyone verify for me if OneBag has any issues?
23:42.54Funkeh`kenlyric: i did all the popular ones
23:43.01kenlyricParser3.0
23:43.09kenlyricthat one is apparenlty important :)
23:43.10Funkeh`i don't count that as popular
23:43.12kenlyricit broke many things.
23:43.15Funkeh`but ill do it
23:43.16rubiki use onebag but not home yet to test sorry
23:43.22Diaohm
23:43.27Diaowhat's the default UI error frame called?
23:43.30Josh_Borkebb
23:43.31break19Kaelten: i'll test in a minute
23:43.32Diaothe one with the red text
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23:43.42kenlyricno problem, I just checked the box.. now i"m just getting a sanity error.
23:43.43hyperChipmunkErrorFrame
23:43.58Diaovisor2 can move that right?
23:44.06Kaeltenbreak19 kci?
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23:44.20hyperChipmunkprobably; never tried it though
23:44.23Diaook
23:44.43NightHawkTheSanebreak19: sellfish is rather lightweight i heaer
23:44.49break19Kaelten: kci2 is more than I want. I *just* want vendor prices in my garbagefu :)
23:44.56CIA-2303nymbia * r36495 10Quartz/Interrupt/Quartz_Interrupt.toc:
23:44.56CIA-23Quartz_Interrupt:
23:44.57CIA-23- Sneaky toc.
23:44.57CIA-2303funkydude * r36496 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.toc: Parser-3.0: toc > 20100
23:44.58Kaeltenlol
23:45.01Funkeh`kenlyric: ^^_
23:45.05stavmarany druids having issues with shapeshifting with bartender, not switching bars coming out of bear or cat?
23:45.11Kaeltenthen delete its other folders
23:45.12CIA-2303sayclub * r36497 10Postal/Locales/koKR.lua: Postal: - Typo Fix
23:46.18MaranathaTXIf you are in combat bar 1 will not flip...works fine out of combat
23:46.36Funkeh`could be a sneaky combat change by blizzard
23:46.46Funkeh`theres posts about frames not appearing in combat also
23:46.50kenlyrica ton of idiots on the recommended realms... they're making it easy to test though :)
23:46.54MaranathaTXWas fighting in cat and popped out to heal and guess what...no bar flip..no healing spells : )
23:47.02break19i've noticed my target frame doesnt appear if I'm combat before I target...
23:47.06break19with pitbull..
23:47.06hyperChipmunkpwnd
23:47.15Funkeh`MaranathaTX: we don't like feral druids
23:47.17NightHawkTheSanebreak19: i noticed that with PCUF too
23:47.22hyperChipmunkpf, you don't need target frames
23:47.34deltronomg i wanna play :P
23:47.39MaranathaTXsorry to hear that funk
23:47.48cynyrwoo woo can't connect to the server! after about 10 minutes of it being down
23:48.26Funkeh`kidding :p
23:48.48stavmarbreak19: same for me
23:49.13kenlyricCompost, Glory-2.0, OneStorage, Periodic Table2.0, SpecialEventsLib,StatLogicLib, SurfaceLib, TableTopLib,uiQery, Waterfall-1.0, WhoLib... not that it matters to me, I can check the box. But might save some trouble.
23:49.34stavmarin fact i once Deathcoiled a mob that was targeted and then i could not get the UFrame to pop back up
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23:49.56stavmarusing pitbull
23:50.03Funkeh`kenlyric: i said popular addons
23:50.08Funkeh`libraries
23:50.27break19stavmar: needless to say, I think that should be a priority.. gotta be able to see what we're attackin, lol
23:50.27Funkeh`most of those are deprecated/should not be used/onlu used by 1 addon
23:50.50hyperChipmunkGlory isn't
23:50.52kenlyricdeprecated ones should probably be removed from SAL :)
23:50.59Funkeh`no
23:51.05Funkeh`since addons still sue them for some reason
23:51.08Funkeh`use*
23:51.14Funkeh`Compost in particular
23:51.20kenlyricbut yeah, I don't care if anyone updates them. Just trying to help reduce the patch-day noob population as much as I can :)
23:51.29stavmarbreak19: aye, but there is just so much stuff going on
23:51.45hyperChipmunkyea, GloryLib isn't unused, it just hasn't needed any changes
23:52.02NimbleRabitstalogic is used isn't it
23:52.12NightHawkTheSaneonly by ratingbuster
23:52.18Funkeh`SurfaceLib is deprecated?
23:52.25Funkeh`for sahredmedia afaik
23:52.26NightHawkTheSanesharedmedialib
23:52.29FroMastertrace!2005
23:52.49Cryectshit addons sueing
23:52.59Funkeh`:)
23:53.20Funkeh`you want a tagged graphlib or something Cryect ?
23:53.22Funkeh`:p
23:53.30CryectIf it starts sueing users yes
23:53.39Funkeh`rofl
23:53.43CryectYou make GraphLib 2.0 for me! k?
23:54.02NightHawkTheSanegoddammit, ej's database broke in the middle of reading a threat. /whinge
23:54.40Cryectnot like EJ really has many good threads anymore >_>
23:54.58kenlyrici've always wonder what a whinge is. Is it british?
23:55.07Cryectum no
23:55.23Funkeh`there are the random good ones
23:55.28kenlyricis it like a whine? or a cringe? or both?
23:55.36NightHawkTheSanehttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whinge
23:55.54sdoubleit's a whine, and it has 2 spellings, it's mostly spelled whine in america
23:55.55NightHawkTheSaneThey have a handful of interesting threads.
23:55.56NimbleRabit"british"
23:55.57kenlyricso, british :)
23:56.02Sparhawkewhat are the mirrors for wowace.com/files ?
23:56.07Cryectyeah there are random good ones but I miss most the stuff being theorycrafted or just trying to figure out how things work instead of "how do I kill x?"
23:56.12NightHawkTheSaneBut most of them are so raiding oriented I never find them very interesting.
23:56.16Cryector "x is oped"
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23:56.43NightHawkTheSaneI like some of the theorycraft threads, but thats me. and usually they get really boring after a handful of pages.
23:56.45kenlyricyeah, I remember when they had theorycraft threads. so much better than the 0 that ever appeared on the official forums.
23:56.52cynyrno Z is OPed
23:57.10NimbleRabit>0
23:58.19Cryectyeah I don't actually read most threads that get over afew pages long :-p
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23:59.22Gnarfozif I make an addon that relies on another addon to be present anyway, I don't have to include any externals/libs the other addon requires anyway, right?
23:59.42XuerianNo

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