IRC log for #wowace on 20070520

00:00.09Punkie`Next patch, what is actually happening with auras?
00:00.28Punkie`are auras going to register a change when a buff is refreshed or is there something new to use?
00:00.46Funkeh`basically the blizz UI will keep times for it
00:00.47Funkeh`bar mods etc will b able to extract those times
00:00.56Funkeh`yeah
00:01.44Punkie`cool, what api is that ?
00:02.14Funkeh`can't remember
00:02.17Funkeh`getsomething
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00:02.45vhaarrSaroz: I guess for FindUnitFrames, you'd just cache them by |unit|, and invalidate the tables when the information could've changed
00:02.48NimbleRabitYeah I'll need to find a mod for that
00:03.01NimbleRabitnext patch
00:03.06Punkie`ClassTimer
00:03.16Funkeh`ClassTimer & Quartz already do it
00:03.31NimbleRabityeah but I don't like it being in quartz
00:03.32Sarozvhaarr, yea, gonna be a bit more messy, will look into it tomorrow
00:03.33Saroznn all
00:03.36vhaarrnn
00:03.42NimbleRabitso I plan on deleting that module if it is one
00:04.23Seykeni leave, good night everyone !
00:04.31SeykenAnd Hunters are the best dudes
00:04.37SeykenBut only Hunters :)
00:05.49Funkeh`why? :)
00:05.53Funkeh`i think its awesome
00:06.05Diaonecb will probably be updated for it then
00:06.24NimbleRabitbecause I like to have my castbar be a castbar
00:06.27NimbleRabitand leave other things to other mods
00:06.34Funkeh`Diao: it has
00:06.41Funkeh`but theres no point in me using it anymore
00:07.09Funkeh`NimbleRabit: that doesn't really make sense to me
00:07.23Funkeh`it makes no difference if it another mod or a module in Quartz
00:07.39Mikmadoes anyone have a simple OnUpdate timer available? i'm kinda confused about the ones i found
00:07.42NimbleRabitLets put it this way
00:07.56NimbleRabitI've been trying to figure out how to customize things in quartz like Rezz Timer, Group Invite Timer
00:07.56NimbleRabitetc.
00:08.00NimbleRabitand haven't been able to figure it out
00:08.20NimbleRabitwhen mods go outside their scope it always becomes annoying to work with
00:08.46Funkeh`it was never really outside its scope
00:08.52Funkeh`Rezz Timer is more outside its scope
00:09.23NimbleRabitI STILL haven't figured out how to customize or turn off the damn things
00:09.47NimbleRabitand how is it not outside it's scope?  Time's left on target buffs = castingbar mod?
00:09.47vodrinmirror timers
00:10.03vodrin<NimbleRabit> I've been trying to figure out how to customize things in quartz like Rezz Timer, Group Invite Timer
00:10.08vodrinmirror timers, scroll down
00:10.26Funkeh`no but its in line with enemy casting bar
00:10.28NimbleRabitahh
00:10.30NimbleRabithow do I turn them off
00:10.42vodrinclick enable at the top
00:11.56Punkie`We need to get some sort of sexy motive to make him have Mr.Plow2 finished :(
00:12.01NimbleRabitahh woo, got the ones I didn't want turned off
00:12.02NimbleRabitthanks
00:12.06Punkie`him = wobin :D
00:12.16Funkeh`baggins ftw
00:12.20Funkeh`no need to sort stuff
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00:12.30Heriooh my god
00:12.35Herio<3 APNG
00:12.50Funkeh`apng?
00:12.50vodrinnp :D
00:13.01Herioanimated png sub-specification
00:13.05NimbleRabitI always thought mirror timer was just breath
00:13.08NimbleRabitused to ocb
00:13.24Herioit made it into the firefox 3.0 (minefield) nightly build trunk about a month ago :O
00:13.31Punkie`Funkeh`: I like MrPlow and OneBag though :(
00:13.40NimbleRabitI use sanitybags
00:13.47NimbleRabitalthough I don't even like them...
00:13.48NimbleRabithmm
00:14.05Funkeh`i prefer baggins because it doesn't do anything to your bags at all, it jsut makes a sorted display, which is all i want
00:14.32hasteBaggins does something very odd and prevents oApp from working with it :-(
00:14.42NimbleRabitif sanity worked properly with pt3 and had some more options I would love them
00:14.44Funkeh`O.o
00:15.01Funkeh`also alt-rightclick in baggins ftw
00:15.01Nargiddleyi still dont know what its doing to cause that haste :/
00:15.06Funkeh`shows stack sizes and what not
00:15.19Punkie`haste: is there actually a way of getting oUF (from your gSVN) working at the moment? :)
00:15.19hasteNargiddley: at least you aren't the only one not being able to figure it out :-P
00:15.21theoddone33why do noggenfogger skeletons have shorts on?
00:15.24theoddone33it's not like they need them
00:15.37Punkie`theoddone33: to stop them from getting cold
00:15.44theoddone33ah FR shorts
00:15.52Funkeh`lol
00:16.04hastePunkie`: there is, but they don't do much more then display what you decide to
00:16.29hastePunkie`: ie. health and/or power bar in the style of oMB with optionally value text / name on
00:16.48Punkie`haste: aha
00:17.23Punkie`I really like the look of oUF personally, Tried to make Pitbull look like it, however it didn't want to put the text outside of the health bar into the frame :(
00:17.52Punkie`In the end I just went back to ag_uf as I've been using it for a while :)
00:18.05hasteneither will the SVN version of oUF at the time being :(
00:18.19Punkie`:(
00:18.58NimbleRabitI just use ABF
00:19.01Punkie`Can you poke me if it's close to being really usable?
00:19.14hasteI'll try to remember that
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00:19.40Punkie`:) cheers
00:19.51NimbleRabitman
00:19.53NimbleRabitthis 19 mage twink is so dumb
00:20.27NimbleRabitI was all excited when I made him, now I realize I'm playing a mage without blink..
00:20.48hastehehe
00:21.56Punkie`Just make a hunter, or a rogue with 2x fiery weapon enchant :P
00:22.28theoddone33a twinked out 19 priest would be awesome
00:22.42theoddone33maybe even less awesome than a twinked out 29 priest
00:22.51NimbleRabitI've twinked a hunter, warrior, druid, and now mage
00:22.55NimbleRabitand rogue*
00:23.17NimbleRabitI thought mage would be fun, but I think I should have gone for 29 bracket instead
00:23.40NimbleRabitJust one of the ways I keep myself enjoying this game
00:23.41NimbleRabit=D
00:24.08NimbleRabitcan you twink in eve Xuerian|AFK ?  No? that's what I thought. =P
00:24.11theoddone33I don't like twinking
00:24.23theoddone33because it feels like I'm wasting a class I could level higher
00:24.42NimbleRabitI have a twinked druid and I thought it was so fun
00:24.45NimbleRabitI now have a 35 druid I'm leveling
00:24.46NimbleRabitlol
00:24.52theoddone33yeah exactly
00:24.54NimbleRabitkept my twink there though
00:25.07theoddone33I've never actually twinked
00:25.12theoddone33my main is much too poor for that
00:25.20theoddone33but I pvp in every bracket
00:25.26NimbleRabitis your main 70?
00:25.29theoddone33yes
00:25.40theoddone33and a chanter, so I can get mats easily
00:25.40NimbleRabitit's not hard to finance a 19 twink with a 70
00:25.48NimbleRabitI grinded the money for this guy in a pretty short amount of time
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00:26.03NimbleRabitthe hard part was grinding a boe chest
00:26.07NimbleRabitI ran BFD like 15 times
00:26.22theoddone33heh
00:26.32theoddone33I want the healing staff from there
00:26.37theoddone33not enough to grind it though
00:26.38Punkie`good night people :)
00:26.40NimbleRabitthe boe one?
00:26.52NimbleRabitstaff of the blessed seer or w/e?
00:26.54NimbleRabitPunkie`: goodnight
00:26.55theoddone33yup
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00:27.07theoddone33never seen it in AH
00:27.33NimbleRabitheh
00:27.34NimbleRabitI have one
00:27.37NimbleRabitfrom grinding bfd lol
00:29.06NimbleRabitdarn nobody is taking up my addon request
00:29.10NimbleRabitI might have to learn to do it myself T_T
00:30.41Birdemani[FH]hrm, are naxx items not in bigwigs anymore? i get the package deal and we are in here, dont see any
00:30.52vhaarrBirdemani[FH]: you need BigWigs_Naxxramas.
00:31.14vhaarrthe old instances are no longer included by default
00:31.35Birdemani[FH]its the only one not in here, and i reloaded all of the bw package this morning
00:31.50Birdemani[FH]oh wait
00:31.52Birdemani[FH]timers
00:31.53Birdemani[FH]huh
00:32.03Birdemani[FH]guess its been a while since i looked at it
00:32.31NimbleRabitoh sweet the new BuffMe is out
00:32.38NimbleRabitcalled PuntFu
00:35.03CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35899 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Sounds.lua: Prat: Try and fix issues with event firing and chat frame printing due to inversion of event/addmessage flow depending on chat direction
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00:36.03theoddone33heh
00:36.05ChompersMaulgar tomorrow
00:36.18theoddone33all these leveling guides for 50-60 tell you to grind like 60% of a level
00:36.21theoddone33:( :(
00:36.22Chompersanyone have any tips?
00:36.43Cryectwell thats basically what you do for 50-60 unless you have instance groups to run with nonstop
00:36.58theoddone33yeah, I was hoping to quest more though
00:37.00Cryectbarely any quests 50 to 60 comparison to how much XP you need
00:37.05ZealotOnAStickBS.
00:37.15ZealotOnAStickI found about 45-50 way harder than 50-60.
00:37.20vhaarrindeed
00:37.34Cryectprolly because you ran instances
00:37.43Cryectthere was no 45-50 instances
00:37.44theoddone33really the goal is like 58 since outland should get anyone from 58 to 60 very quickly
00:37.46Cryectwell except ST
00:37.48Cryectwhich was awful
00:38.02vhaarrI just leveled my warrior from 50 to 57 without grinding or instance content, there are lots of quests.
00:38.04ZealotOnAStickShould be plenty of quests from 50-60.  Felwood, WP, EP, Winterspring, Silithus, Burning Steppes, Blasted Lands, Searing Gorge.
00:38.22theoddone33azshara
00:38.48ZealotOnAStickNot really too much at 50+ in Azshara.  A little bit, but it's better more in the 47ish range.
00:38.53Cryectits all slow in comparison to outlands which is just nonstop quests
00:38.59theoddone33I'm sure there are lots of quests, I'm just saying both of the leveling guides I've looked at told me to grind large portions of levels
00:39.08Cryectbecause they are going for speed
00:39.18Nargiddleyhaste, trying figure out the Baggins/oApplication thing
00:39.21Cryectto do all the quests requires you to fly all over the place
00:39.30theoddone33heh, grinding != speed on a prot pally
00:39.34theoddone33QQ, etc etc
00:39.34Nargiddleyhaste, seems to be the :SetAllPoints(GetMouseFocus()) not working for some reason
00:39.51CryectSure it does since as a prot pally you can take on a ton of mobs at once
00:39.51hasteNargiddley: I've spent a lot of time with it also
00:39.55ZealotOnAStickWell, the leveling guides suck then.
00:40.01theoddone33yup, and I do when I can
00:40.03Nargiddleyif i try it on the normal bags, then baggins. it still appears on the normal bags when i mouse over baggins
00:40.25hasteNargiddley: and your frames behaves like frames that have been ClearAllPoints-ed, but still return a GetPoint, which you can't anchor to
00:40.36aen`this bagnon half second pause when opened is getting annoying
00:40.37Cryecthehe well ZealotOnAStick what are you expecting from leveling guides on how to lvl to 60 in under 4 days of playtime :-p
00:40.52Cryectwhat would you*
00:40.55Cryectdidn't mean are
00:41.20Cryectleveling just sucks in WoW though
00:42.08hasteNargiddley: oh, and it only happens with frames that have a secure template if I remember right
00:42.16hasteNargiddley: it's _really_ odd in other words :p
00:42.23CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35900 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Whitelist CHAT_MSG_AFK
00:43.18rubikughh.. spammers are isanely active this morning
00:43.21rubikerr.. today
00:43.57rubikwish the block-people-under-a-certain-level feature worked
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00:45.19ZealotOnAStickThere's one really decent leveling guide out there . . .
00:45.34ZealotOnAStickIt's fairly famous, female name associated with it, I don't recall offhand.
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00:47.07CIA-2303punkie * r35901 10Babble-2.2/babblelod.bat: Babble-2.2: - Added Babble-Mount-2.2 to babblelod.bat
00:53.25CIA-2303punkie * r35902 10Babble-2.2/babblelod.bat: Babble-2.2: - Revert, It's not even in use yet ^^
00:54.55kenlyricZealotOnAStick: joana.
00:55.45ZealotOnAStickThat sounds about right.
00:56.17kenlyricI use that one for horde and brian kopp's for alliance, both very well done. Absolute minimum of random running all across the zone to do one quest.
00:56.30kenlyricand only a few spots where raw grinding is needed.
00:56.31ZealotOnAStickI looked at it once, it seemed ok.  Otherwise, I wouldn't really know what I'd expected, I've never looked at one except out of curiosity, I've played the game so much I'll level things at the pace I feel like and not rush for something.
00:57.06kenlyricI find it helpful so I do quests a bit more efficiently, since naturally there's a lot more run time built into the quests.
00:57.13Lysitheathe guide is good, ease your mind off all those plans on where to go next
00:57.48Lysitheayou have to remember tho that they achieved those low /played with some extra tricks
00:57.49kenlyriclike when you do a quest on some boars, then find a quest in the next town on those same boars :)
00:57.55Lysithealike, didnt loot if too far away and such
00:58.38kenlyricjoana has videos on youtube... they're kinda insane  :)
00:59.19kenlyricthey're sped up, so they're not as tedius to watch, but you can still see he's like a machine. Like watching those mario speed runs.
01:00.47kenlyricI don't go as fast as he does... my priest took 10 days :)
01:01.38theoddone33I used joana's guide until I hit un'goro
01:01.42theoddone33then I ... diverged a bit
01:01.54theoddone33I'll pick it back up at plaguelands for 55-56
01:02.02theoddone33I'm at 6 days, level 54
01:02.16theoddone33admittedly I wasted quite a bit of time
01:02.23Kalman|My priest was about 7 /played, with not a ton of waste but some.
01:02.31Kalman|(To 60, not 70.)
01:02.36theoddone33yeah
01:02.42theoddone33I think joana's thing is 4 days to 60
01:02.46kenlyricit took me 30 days on my first priest :)
01:02.50Kalman|It's also alliance, which is a little slower.
01:03.03theoddone33I think 60 took me 12-18 days on my rogue
01:03.05theoddone33don't remember
01:03.15Kalman|Was like 22 for me on my rogue.
01:03.43theoddone33I still got to 60 faster than anyone in my little leveling group
01:03.53theoddone33mostly because the fastest guy rerolled after he'd hit 30, heh
01:04.10kenlyriclevelling in a group would make it easier :)
01:04.20theoddone33naw, we didn't have a tank
01:04.24kenlyricyou could do instances, for instance, which when well done are faster.
01:04.27theoddone33so instances were tough
01:04.55theoddone33wish I had a group this time around
01:05.03Kalman|We pallytanked everything through, hell, BRD I think?
01:06.35evlcookiejust hit 70 on my priest , /12 days played. wasted a ton of time thou. too much alt-tabbing and reading forums etc
01:08.45kenlyricdon't see how you could have wasted a "ton" of time.
01:08.53Kalman|Sitting AFK.
01:08.54kenlyric12 days 1-70 is pdq
01:09.08Kalman|Eh, I'd say 10 is a decent time 1-70.
01:09.16Kalman|For an alt, at least.
01:09.40Kalman|I definitely abused the spellthread and had no qualms about funding my priest.
01:10.11kenlyricyou'd either have to never run back to an inn, or never fight without rest.
01:10.31kenlyricparking in inns takes a noticable chunk of time.
01:10.48Kalman|Set your hearth appropriately and only log when you can hearth to park.
01:11.29Kalman|60-70 is 2-3 days /played with near-zero rest XP.
01:11.30kenlyricyeah, but you still have to run back to the place you were questing from. all the little bits add up.
01:11.41Kalman|Not if you were hearthing anyway.
01:11.52Kalman|Finish an area, hearth back to where you were going, log.
01:11.57kenlyricahh, finish :)
01:12.01kenlyricthat's the difference.
01:12.08Kalman|It requires some planning.
01:12.32kenlyricthere should a be a timer to track the amount of time you spend not resting.
01:12.36Kalman|That's really where Joana/Brian's guides come in handy, is just knowing when you'll be able to be done, so you can say "I'm getting to here then logging tonight."
01:13.34kenlyricthere should a be a timer to track the amount of time you spend not resting.
01:17.22kenlyrici've just spent the last 10 minutes in ironforge on my hunter for no good reason.
01:18.38Nargiddleyhaste, ok if i never call :SetPoint on the item frames it works (but with the frame in the far lower right corner of the screen)
01:19.21haste*confused*
01:19.35Nargiddleysame :/
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01:22.01Nargiddleyholy crap success
01:22.23hasteoh?
01:22.30hasteI want to know how!
01:22.34Nargiddleyanchoring to the section frame, instead of the section frame title (a fontstring)
01:23.15haste*looks at baggins*
01:26.00hasteso it doesn't like the fact that you're anchoring it to a non-anchored fontstring?
01:26.33Garounyay, finally killed that stupid R&J opera event
01:26.43Nargiddleyi guess, but wouldnt it not show if something wasnt anchored ?
01:27.15hastedepends on how WoW handle that case, and if you anchor it later on
01:27.52aen`how come elk's buffbars doesnt have the -ace2- in the addons list :P
01:28.20hasteaen`: because it's up to the author to decide if he/she wants the notation
01:28.26Nargiddleythe skins do the anchoring of the title
01:28.36Nargiddleyso it is anchored
01:30.26hastethen that explains why it shows :)
01:30.49Nargiddleynot why you cant anchor to it tho :/
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01:31.28Nargiddleyin the same frame i could understand i guess, but its much later once everything is resolved :
01:31.29CIA-2303nargiddley * r35903 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Fix for oApplication compatibility
01:31.34CIA-2303funkydude * r35904 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: BlackTemple: add Gurtogg Bloodboil mod
01:31.35hasteIt's a fontstring, they behave a little bit different then your average frame, probably something there causing it to crash
01:33.27Nargiddleyah well, problem fixed
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01:40.18Therrahello i have a question about tattle
01:40.43Therrais it still a work in progress? because mine does not seem to wokr
01:40.45Therrawork*
01:41.07hyperChipmunkwe have mods that aren't WIP?
01:41.25kenlyricAce.
01:42.22Therrawhat i meant was.... is there something i need to do to fix it or does it just plain not work
01:42.22hyperChipmunkTherra: did you copy the appropriate folder for your battlegroup to your addons directory?
01:42.31Therraahh let me see
01:42.46hyperChipmunki think there's a readme file with instructions
01:43.10hyperChipmunkit works excellently, last i saw
01:43.27hyperChipmunkso probably something specific to your setup
01:44.10Therrai see no readme file
01:44.24Therrai just used the wowace updater to install it
01:44.42NimbleRabithyperChipmunk: is bulk on files.wowace yet?
01:45.08Cryectlike almost nothing has a readme file :-p
01:45.11hyperChipmunkthere was one more thing i needed to fix
01:45.20hyperChipmunkbut i forgot what it is
01:45.27NimbleRabitjust put it up =P
01:45.45hyperChipmunkthe original bulkmail did! i worked very hard and made a story for it and everything
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01:46.19Therrai am in battlegroup Rampage
01:46.29Therraand i think it autodetected that
01:47.20Cryectmy addons get readme files normally when I think they are ready for general use
01:47.38Cryectreminds me I need to fix all the tables in BigBrother for 2.1 still
01:47.44Therra"Tattle Rampage data updated 5/4/2007 0:0"
01:47.46NimbleRabitpeople never think they
01:47.51NimbleRabitthey keep their addons in "beta" for a year
01:47.52Therra"Tattle is now Active"
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01:49.32Therrabut it isnt active cause i mouseover and it doesnt work
01:49.32Frostfelcan someone explain to me how to add an element to a frame or tell me where a tut is that explains it
01:49.52CryectWell no good tutorials unfortunately out there
01:50.09CryectAnd you element added to a frame is either another frame, a texture, or a fontstring
01:50.11hyperChipmunkTherra: only the top 1000 teams are archived
01:50.30Frostfeloh then i mean something like a button
01:50.48hyperChipmunkif you want more, you have to run the crawler script yourself
01:51.06CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35905 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat_Modules/modules/CustomFilters.lua): Prat: Custom filter module can now add/remove/update patterns without need for a reload ui
01:51.24CryectDo a find all on CreateFrame("Button" then look at how those various instances in your addons create buttons
01:51.41Cryectthats the best way to learn look how others do it since there is no good tutorials
01:51.54Frostfelk ill try that thxs
01:55.13CIA-2303chuanhsing * r35906 10BugSack/BugSack.toc: BugSack: Add Note-zhTW
01:56.49hyperChipmunkI have a delicious Pepperoni and Three Cheese Calzone
01:57.17hyperChipmunkthe microwave instructions contain the following directive: "2. Place on paper plate and microwave on HIGH (see chart)."
01:57.27hyperChipmunkthis is the chart:
01:57.35hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
01:57.35hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
01:57.35hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
01:57.35hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
01:57.35hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
01:57.36Frostfelhey Cryect when u said search for CreateFrame("Button" did u mean search in other addons
01:58.17Nargiddleyhaste, i cant figure out what the problem was :/
01:58.23hyperChipmunkI am wondering as to exactly what the purpose of this chart is
01:58.29Cryectyes I meant in other addons
01:58.34Xuerian|AFK0.o
01:58.37hyperChipmunkit confoozles me greatl
01:58.45hyperChipmunks/tl/tly/
01:58.50Frostfelyou know any good exampl addons
01:58.59Cryectno
01:59.05Frostfelk
01:59.17CryectCreating a button is either using a template or setting a bunch of textures and the OnClick function
01:59.28Nargiddleycreating a frame with an unanchored fontstring, then anchoring a frame to the fontstring then another frame to that
01:59.36Frostfeloh
01:59.37Nargiddleyanchoring the fontstring and everything shows
02:01.10sbuhyperChipmunk: 3 * 3:15? :p
02:01.38CIA-2303funkydude * r35907 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Najentus.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Najentus: tweaks
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02:03.08CIA-2303chuanhsing * r35908 10Niagara/Niagara.toc: Niagara: add Notes-zhTW
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02:07.40Frostfeldoes anyone know why alot of links on the wiki are like this http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AceGUIInputBox&action=edit
02:08.04hyperChipmunkthat's the edit page
02:08.08Frostfelalmost all the Elements and Tutorials are edit links like that
02:08.14NimbleRabit~s/
02:08.23NimbleRabit~wtf s/
02:08.39hyperChipmunkwtf is for acronyms
02:09.00NimbleRabits/
02:09.00hyperChipmunk~substitute
02:09.04NimbleRabitoh substitute
02:09.08NimbleRabitI wantd to figure out what the S meant
02:09.10NimbleRabitstood for
02:09.11NimbleRabitw/e
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02:11.46CIA-2303next96 * r35910 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2.lua:
02:11.46CIA-23Babble-2.2:
02:11.46CIA-23- Babble-Mount-2.2.lua
02:11.46CIA-23- Add locale koKR
02:12.49NimbleRabitwhy do aguf and pitbull handle pets so wierd
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02:13.12NimbleRabitdid they change the api or something and make them harder to handle?
02:14.33SeykenHello all, i'm back :p
02:18.04ravagernlnimblerabit: the wow 2.0 api limits the way aguf could put pets under they're owner, so now space is put between pets when a party member doesn't have a pet
02:21.56aen`hmm, even onebag has .5 sec delay on open
02:22.38Funkeh`the first time?
02:29.02rronkivhey
02:29.06rronkivnevcairiel... you around?
02:31.16aen`funkeh: yes
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02:33.23CIA-2303sorren 072.1 * r35912 10SorrenTimers/ (Localization.lua SorrenTimers.lua options.lua):
02:33.23CIA-23SorrenTimers:
02:33.24CIA-23- Re-added enemy skills
02:35.05kenlyricfinding good pvp healer builds is hard. All the holy builds I find are lolsmite.
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02:36.58ZealotOnAStickHmm.
02:37.09ZealotOnAStickAnyone here with much experience with CMS systems and various forum softwares?
02:39.33NimbleRabitkenlyric: blessed resilience in holy, the rest in discipline
02:39.53kenlyricyou a crazy cracker.
02:40.16NimbleRabit?
02:40.22kenlyricSoR is hot.
02:40.49kenlyricoh, no, you not crazy, I dumb. :)
02:41.08kenlyrichttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bx0GuhxkbZfVxhc0qV0h is what i"m thinking.
02:42.33NimbleRabitSoR
02:42.35NimbleRabit?
02:42.56kenlyricspirit of redemption. My brain was broken :)
02:43.03NimbleRabitoh
02:43.04NimbleRabitheh
02:43.44CIA-2303sayclub * r35913 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2.lua:
02:43.44CIA-23Babble-2.2:
02:43.45CIA-23- Typo Fix
02:43.51aen`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxMGuhZdEkI00VVhA
02:43.55aen`if youre going to heal
02:43.58aen`and not lolsmite
02:44.35Gngskfor arena?
02:44.44NimbleRabithttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxTMuhgzZfyxkc0oV0h
02:44.47NimbleRabitis what I use
02:44.49NimbleRabitfor arena healing
02:44.52Gngskahh
02:44.57aen`pretty close
02:44.58aen`except
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02:45.02aen`you wont be casting spirit
02:45.04aen`on yourself alot
02:45.16kenlyricI just don't understand pissing around with inspiration in pvp.
02:45.34aen`if you spam heal, its extra armor?
02:45.35NimbleRabitI only put 1 point
02:45.38NimbleRabitfor an extra buff
02:45.40NimbleRabitthat they have to purge
02:45.45aen`yep
02:46.01NimbleRabitand why wouldn't I be casting divine spirit on myself
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02:47.14NimbleRabitkenlyric: if it's an arena build you might want to look at what I linked.  At least pick up imp mana burn, it's essential
02:48.03CIA-2303funkydude * r35914 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: clean up casting times to make more sense
02:48.32NimbleRabitZealotOnAStick: what do you need?
02:55.02ZealotOnAStickI'm trying to decide between moving the current guild site (which is just a phpbb2 forum with a custom front end news page) to just e107 and use the built-in forum module, or if I want e107 bridged with SMF for a more fully featured forum.
02:55.11ZealotOnAStickand am looking for other opinions.
02:55.56NimbleRabitoh
02:56.28NimbleRabitwhat is SMF
02:56.32ThorgardZealotOnAStick, I've only had bad experiences with e107
02:56.38ThorgardSMF's Simple Machine's forum.
02:56.55ZealotOnAStickThorgard: what bad experiences with e107?
02:57.04CIA-2303sayclub * r35915 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2.lua:
02:57.04CIA-23Babble-2.2:
02:57.04CIA-23- Typo Fix
02:57.16ZealotOnAStickwowace.com's forums run on SMF, as one example.
02:57.40NimbleRabitI personally haven't tried e107
02:57.49NimbleRabitback when I made websites I liked to rebuild the wheel
02:57.56NimbleRabitso I would get better lol
02:58.15ZealotOnAStickI want something relatively working and useful out of the box, as I despise actually programming.
02:58.43ZealotOnASticke107 has a lot of appeal.  I've worked with it before, it's got eq107 (a plugin for working with EQDKP), some other nifties.
02:59.00NimbleRabitI would go with it's built-in forum module if it's an event decent forum though.  You can always hack the forum to add little features you need
02:59.04ThorgardZealotOnAStick, mostly silly bugs and templating issues. But this was a long time ago so I don't know how mature it is now.
02:59.30ZealotOnAStickat 0.7.8 now, pretty solid in my experience.
03:00.36NimbleRabityou know though, there's nothing really wrong with a phpbb2 forum and a simpe custom homepage
03:01.11NimbleRabitjust setup the homepage to use the forum for news entries and everyone is happy
03:01.41ZealotOnAStickexcept that phpbb2 sucks, the news page is an ugly kludge, and we need some other features and functionality.
03:01.56ThorgardZealotOnAStick, tried Joomla?
03:02.09ZealotOnAStickNo.  Is it newish?
03:02.19NimbleRabitphpbb2 is fine, make a better news page, what functionality could you possible need =P
03:02.32ThorgardZealotOnAStick, it's a fork of Mambo, sort of.
03:03.32ZealotOnAStickbetter application than "make a post on the forum" for guild apps, a box on the front page with current recruiting needs . . .
03:03.44NimbleRabitforum post for guild apps is perfect imo
03:03.50NimbleRabitand so is a box
03:03.50NimbleRabitlol
03:04.06ZealotOnAStickWell, the other class leaders disagree with you.
03:04.17NimbleRabithow do they want applications to work?
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03:05.23ZealotOnAStickWell, for example, on my previous guild's site, I had an app that had form boxes with specific questions asked that people filled out.  Then they submitted it, it verified (minimally) that the required fields were there, and then it posted it into the forum in a private forum that public users couldn't see.
03:05.46NimbleRabitohhhh
03:05.49ZealotOnAStickCurrently, anyone who posts an app anyone, even unregged visitors, can see.
03:05.59NimbleRabitI prefer it that way personally
03:06.06NimbleRabitbut forms for applying is nice
03:06.18ZealotOnAStickand I've not found any way in phpbb2 to allow a "post here and then nobody can see it" other than "move the app once posted"
03:06.29ZealotOnAStickdespite the fact that I hate phpbb.
03:06.36NimbleRabithere's a page from a guild on my sever: http://www.gotrice-guild.com/   .... sure it's ugly because the designer probably sucks but I mean is there really anything all that wrong with a simple news homepage like that and a forum link?
03:07.01NimbleRabitbut yeah go with whatever you guys need
03:07.08NimbleRabitif e107 or w/e fits your needs use it..
03:07.56CIA-2303bam * r35916 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
03:07.56CIA-23ItemPrice-1.0:
03:07.56CIA-23- Price updates
03:09.05CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35917 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ChatTabs.lua: Prat: Chattabs didnt seem to update the tabs anymore, needed a mouseover.
03:09.28KillmoreIm looking to change some non-ace addon to ace addon, anyone know an ace addon for WIM (WoW Instant Messenger) ?
03:09.34ZealotOnASticksee, that already looks better than the current site
03:09.38NimbleRabitnot one that comares at all killmore
03:09.50ZealotOnAStickKillmore: not really.  Cellular is the closest . . .
03:09.59ZealotOnAStickbut I find it lacking enough that I personally still use WIM.
03:09.59NimbleRabitZealotOnAStick: I actually made that site except it was white and looked better, I also put up the forum etc. lol'
03:10.09NimbleRabitZealotOnAStick: than I gave it to that guild since mine fell apart and they uglified it
03:10.41Killmoreok
03:10.51wobinThere's always HeyFu
03:10.55wobinbut that's not windowed
03:11.38Killmorenext one is "AdvancedTradeSkillWindow"
03:11.39NimbleRabitbut you may want to ask the guy that makes WIM before just replicating his addon..
03:11.58NimbleRabitKillmore: instead you could just go pickup my addon request =P
03:14.05NimbleRabithttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6128.0
03:14.15NimbleRabitthere's a link for your convenience
03:14.20NimbleRabit*nudge* *wink*
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04:42.58CyrezA Paladin can do a lot of things if properly tuned and used, I've found. But many fail at it, lol.
04:43.27theoddone33yeah I'm failing atm, but it's my first try, so eh
04:43.36CyrezHigh Threat + Healing Role = </3
04:43.39theoddone33and it's a 5-man pug, I'm not gnona be the only one failng
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04:47.26CyrezMore fun than being a Priest at times, though.
04:47.30CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35920 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Stupidity removal
04:47.51CyrezTimes will come when you have to save the whole party and yourself from somebody else's screw-up.
04:48.09CyrezA horrible pull, for example.
04:48.51sylvanaari just killed CIA
04:49.24CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35921 10DreamChat/ (. DreamChat_FrameClass.lua): DreamChat: Prat combatible
04:49.38sylvanaarur late cia...
04:49.47kenlyricwhy, saving everyone is part of the fun of being a priest :)
04:50.54NimbleRabitAzurewrath: no I'm going to have to say warriors have the highest % of idiots
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04:52.15Azurewrathmhmmm.. if you count the percentage of bad tanks or bad pseudo-dps guys.. maybe warriors can get close.. but those bad hunters are also mentally retarded
04:52.24Azurewrathdon't know why.. must be the class..
04:53.27Diaoomg
04:53.32Diao[21:53:03] (CIA-23): sylvanaar * r35921 DreamChat/ (. DreamChat_FrameClass.lua): DreamChat: Prat combatible
04:53.33Diaoam i dreaming
04:53.36NimbleRabitwhat is dongle
04:54.45vhaarrdongle is another addon framework, just like ace
04:54.59kenlyricretarded DPS can get away with it for a lot longer.
04:55.39kenlyricthe only way to get away with being a bad healer is to have another healer there.
04:56.52theoddone33this is dumb
04:56.52theoddone33I'm a 54 pally
04:56.52theoddone33I can't keep aggro off the 63 lock's felguard
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05:02.42CIA-2303jayhawk * r35922 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (PetInfoFu-readme.txt PetInfoFu.lua PetInfoFuLocals-enUS.lua):
05:02.43CIA-23FuBar_PetInfoFu:
05:02.43CIA-23- added skills and toggles for skills and combat statistics.
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05:09.22KinkxDreamChat any good? :o
05:09.32Kinkxnm, I'll go check it out
05:09.51theoddone33I couldn't figure it out
05:10.04theoddone33it just put a frame in my UI that didn't do anything
05:10.06theoddone33*shrug*
05:10.24Kinkxsexy!
05:10.42NimbleRabitdreamchat didn't work for me
05:10.46NimbleRabitbut I was using prat...
05:10.49NimbleRabitso I may try again
05:11.05Diaoyou have to enable
05:11.08Diaothe chat
05:11.12Diaoby clicking on the dreamchat frame
05:11.18Diaoand then selecting which ones you want to show up
05:11.31kebinusanThat reminds me, would anyone care if I Chron'd a svn commit of the tattle data weekly or somethin
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05:11.59NimbleRabitwhat reminded you, exactly?
05:12.10kebinusanI scrolled up and saw someone talking about tattle
05:12.20NimbleRabitahh
05:12.22kebinusanamazing how that scroll button works
05:17.01Kemayowobin: I'm about now.
05:18.18ZealotOnAStickmy want Splut progress!
05:21.06Solesplut is dead
05:21.11Soleat least for now
05:21.37Gngskwhat's splut?
05:21.43Solekebinusan: please update the tattle data weekly :)
05:21.57Solean action bar project me and wobin started up a while ago
05:22.05Gngskahh
05:22.15Gngskwobin likes to start projects then abandon them!
05:22.15Solebut we kinda couldnt figure out how to get it to do what we wanted so we passively abandoned it
05:22.34ThorgardWhat did you want it to do?
05:22.46kebinusanSole, yeah Im looking at the data miner atm, I was going to see how long it took to run us and eu data to see if it'd be prudent to do both of them
05:23.00Solekebinusan: it takes a long time
05:23.04sylvanaarNimbleRabit i just fixed it
05:23.06Solekebinusan: 6 hrs or so for US data according to nymbia
05:23.23SoleThorgard: some funky animated shit with multi-level bar support
05:26.13Funkeh`later
05:26.46Solebye
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05:40.04NeoTronwhat's the name of the totem addon in ace?
05:40.11Gngskyata
05:40.24Gngsksomething about wood too maybe
05:40.28Gngskgotwood?
05:41.03Diaoanimated bars? o_O
05:41.37NeoTronyata it is
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06:04.51theoddone33I guess I could be cheeky and put salvation on the pets
06:07.07Bam__anyone got experience submitting addons to ui.worldofwar.net? I wonder if they allow a direct link to a file on files.wowace.com in the addon description
06:09.46XuerianAs to allowing it, is questionable. Getting flamed for it, no doubt
06:09.54Bam__hehe
06:10.16Bam__well I have submitted it... guess I will see if they reject it :P
06:10.46XuerianI'm perfectly happy on WoWI, even though I haven't updated :P <3 Cairenn.
06:11.39CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35923 10Prat/ (Prat.toc embeds.xml): Prat: Placed embeds.xml back in the root, otherwise it requires you to know the lib directory name
06:12.29Bam__I just figured ui.worldofwar.net had the most users... but I dunno of course
06:13.52XuerianCurse has the most
06:13.59Bam__they do?
06:14.02XuerianMerely because nubs scream "CURSE"
06:14.15Xuerianhaha no, I don't know really. Always thought it was curse
06:14.20Bam__they have been around longer, havent they?
06:14.36XuerianMost, median, Best - Curse, ui.wow, WoWI, imo
06:14.43Cairennthey've all been around the same length of time
06:14.52XuerianAh, someone who knows :p
06:14.56Bam__ok
06:14.59XuerianI can stop pretending now :D
06:15.32Bam__well I suppose one should submit on all 3 sites... but that's too much of a pain :P
06:16.35Guillotinehttp://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?site0=curse-gaming.com&site1=wowinterface.com&site2=ui.worldofwar.net&site3=&site4=&y=r&z=1&h=300&w=610&range=3m&size=Medium&url=eurovision.tv
06:16.38Guillotinecurse currently has the most
06:17.21Bam__aha
06:17.27Cairennand actually, to be technically correct, WoWI was around first, but we closed our doors for a while and didn't re-open until pretty much the same time as the other two
06:17.39Cairenn(the timing on re-opening was coincidental)
06:18.23XuerianI was right o.0
06:18.29XuerianWell, not time wise.
06:18.36XuerianBut user and quality wise :D
06:18.46Bam__I used curse myself to begin with.. but they had major performance problem for a while... so I kinda gave up on them
06:18.53Guillotineya, WoWI is DEFINATELY the most author oriented
06:19.04XuerianWe wubs da Cairenn.
06:19.10Cairennheh
06:19.23Guillotinemy favorite stealth bumper <3
06:19.41Guillotinewell, tied with Shouryuu. Anybody heard from him lately?
06:19.47Guillotine<PROTECTED>
06:20.23Guillotinehe was the best UI forum troll ever
06:21.09Cairennhe was
06:22.50Guillotineyou know whats kind of cool? look at http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?site0=curse-gaming.com&site1=wowinterface.com&site2=ui.worldofwar.net&site3=&site4=&y=r&z=1&h=300&w=610&range=3y&size=Medium&url=eurovision.tv
06:22.55Guillotineyou can see when all the patches were :P
06:22.58Bam__hehe.. if you go back 1 year or so, you can see when ...
06:23.00Bam__gaaahh!
06:23.06Bam__:P
06:23.16Guillotinebwaha. Beat you to it
06:23.26Bam__stop typing what I am thinking :P
06:23.44Xuerian:P
06:24.04Guillotineinteresting. at one point, Cosmos was more popular than any of the other addon sites o.O
06:24.06Bam__and it's really a huge spike around WOW 2.0
06:24.10Guillotineya
06:24.56XuerianAww. The days of 666 hp are over =(
06:25.44Bam__with Cosmos people are using the patcher I think... that would not be displayed on the graph, I guess
06:26.06Guillotineactually, according to this, ui.worldofwar.net was around almost 2 years before the others (back in alpha/beta), though it didn't have much of a userbase at all
06:26.45Cairennwe were around then as well
06:27.03XuerianEveryone sitting around a campfire swapping hunting tales back then, huh?
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06:27.05CairennI remember when Cosmos was the only thing there was, and it was BRAND new!
06:27.17GuillotineI remember too :D
06:27.20XuerianScary
06:27.21GuillotineI remember getting cosmos in beta
06:27.36Bam__I installed all of Cosmos the very first day I played :P
06:27.40Guillotinewhen it was the ONLY addon
06:27.55Cairennyup
06:28.27Bam__btw... it seems there isn't much activity with Cosmos anymore
06:28.50Guillotinenot as big a following as there used to be, but lots of people still use it
06:31.06Guillotineprobably still the most used package. Its just now so many people construct their UI by piecing together a bunch of different addons
06:31.19Bam__I still miss the addon that modified Glue XML so it saved my password :D
06:31.30GuillotineI miss AutoTravel :(
06:33.09Bam__Zorlen was my favorite... may it rest in peace :(
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06:33.48Guillotinewhat was Zorlen?
06:34.16Bam__a function library really.. primarily to make combat-realted macros
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06:35.58Bam__I think it was the addon that was hurt the most by the UI changes.. it almost seemed like they looked at Zorlen and decided "We don't want this!"
06:36.23Guillotineah. I made my own addon that would farm on my rogue with me just mashing 1 button >.>
06:36.34Bam__:D
06:36.34Guillotineleveled up 2-3 levels like that
06:36.49Guillotinejust read a book while mashing "b"
06:37.02Bam__imo the only differense is that you now have to smash some more buttons :D
06:38.07Guillotinelol. but you actually have to look at the screen now
06:38.25Bam__yea
06:40.01Bam__it's the idea that there is more "thinking" involved that I disagree with :P
06:40.04Brunerswhen is arena points updated?
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06:40.37Guillotinesame time as everything else I think. Tuesday morning at 1AM server time
06:41.14Bam__or Wednesday if you are in Europe :P
06:43.50Brunersthanks
06:44.24theoddone33oh man
06:44.31theoddone33I just figured out the biggest problem with pally tanks
06:44.43theoddone33wait for it................ they can get silenced
06:44.47art3misthey try to heal?
06:45.48kebinusanbiggest problem with pally tanks? all that downtime between pulls while you wait for mana, chain puller 4 life
06:48.02theoddone33yeah mana sucks too
06:48.12theoddone33I ran out of water after 1 boss
06:48.33theoddone33then silencing bats in brd arena really screwed us
06:49.01theoddone33but if I had decent tanking gear I could still hold single target aggro while silenced
06:49.07theoddone33oh well
06:52.04Bam__are bear druids still pretty good tanks?
06:52.12Bam__or have they been nerfed a lot?
06:53.12Guillotinedepends on for what
06:53.18Guillotinefor physical damage dealers, not half bad
06:53.27GuillotineI've main tanked up to Curator
06:53.56Guillotinehad to get some extra healers though. yay for the armor buffs next patch :D
06:54.22theoddone33heh, I used 35 symbol of kings in one instance run
06:55.07Bam__I do feel sorry for pallies... why oh why must their buffs last so short...
06:55.21theoddone33at least the regeant is cheapish
06:55.28theoddone33and the buffs are short because they're overpowered !
06:55.29theoddone33heh
06:56.36Bam__hmm perhaps... but the only results is that it is annoying having to re-apply it all the time, I guess
06:57.17theoddone33it definitely is
06:57.50Bam__we once did a ZG with about 15 pallies... I still have nightmare about the constant sound of blessings being applied :D
06:58.39Guillotineo.O
06:59.03GuillotineI still want to see a 4 shadowpriest 1 warlock group do something
06:59.25Guillotinecurse of shadows, all of that extra health recovery, all that extra mana
07:01.03kebinusansomeone did that pretbc with loatheb 1 tank 3 shadow priests and a warlock
07:01.18kebinusanor somethin like it
07:01.23Guillotineya, I saw that
07:01.59Bam__wasn't there a 40-priest MC done once? :D
07:02.33GuillotineI saw a 39 priest 1 warrior one. maybe you mean that?
07:02.39theoddone33there was a 40 frost mage vs rag video
07:02.43theoddone33I think
07:02.49Guillotine37 frost mage, 1 warr, 1 druid, 1 lock
07:02.59GuillotineI've seen all these XD
07:03.05GuillotineI feel so lame
07:03.18kebinusanthe 35 druid onyxia was ok, but I expected more moonfire
07:03.22Bam__yes there was 1 warrior
07:03.30Diaohm
07:03.36Bam__priests dont make too good tanks after all :P
07:03.38Diaodreamchat is supposed to work but i enabled the chats and it doesn't display anything
07:03.41Diaoo_o
07:03.46theoddone33one lock for COE I guess? heh
07:03.53theoddone33would it make that big a difference?
07:04.05AKXYeah, Diao, DreamChat doesn't really work, blame sylvanaar.
07:04.11Diaolol
07:04.48theoddone33what was the druid for? couldn't have been decursing with 37 mages in the raid
07:05.07Diaomaybe i need to update again
07:05.08Diao*test*
07:05.21Guillotinehealing
07:05.23Guillotinethere wasn't a priest
07:05.25Diaothe druid was for healign?
07:05.27Diao:p
07:05.43theoddone33hm someone told me they dropped rag in some ridiculously short time
07:05.46Diaoyes
07:05.47Guillotineya
07:05.49theoddone33I guess there'd still be heals
07:05.52Diaothey dropped him before the first adds spawned
07:05.54Diaobut
07:05.57Diaoyou'd still need to heal
07:05.58Diaolol
07:06.14AwaaAt level 64, CoE added about 200 more dmg for my frostmage
07:06.24Guillotineright. and this is for 37 mages
07:06.28Guillotineso the CoE helped a LOT
07:06.41Bam__ummm... CoE?
07:07.34theoddone33I dunno what rag does to casters but... fire ward > tank?
07:07.34Guillotineah, I was wrong
07:07.50Awaacurse of elements
07:07.50Guillotinevideo is here
07:07.50Bam__oh
07:07.50sylvanaarAKX what?
07:07.51Diaooh
07:07.51Diaothere it works
07:07.51Diaoi didn't have it fully updated
07:07.51Guillotine33 mages, 1 warr, 1 priest, 1 druid, 3 locks
07:07.52AKXsylvanaar: .. never mind then :P
07:07.52Guillotine1 min 16 sec kill
07:07.52Guillotinehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n61G8w5DxPM
07:07.52theoddone33elements, doom, and...?
07:07.52theoddone33ah I'll just watch that then
07:07.59Diaoomg it works!
07:08.01Diaooh
07:08.04Diaothere's 1 bug with dreamchat
07:08.06Bam__what impressed me the most really was... how on earth do you gather 39 priests??? I can be hard enough to just one :D
07:08.08Diaowhenever i restart wow
07:08.12Diaoif i have the default window moved
07:08.20Diaoit moves back to the default position
07:08.24Diaountil i click the arrow to open it
07:08.32sylvanaardunno about that one
07:08.35Diaothen it kinda teleports to the position i had set it at in the previous session
07:08.42GuillotineBam_: lol, too true ><
07:09.13Diaoi guess it's not loading the correct coords or something
07:09.15Diaountil i click it
07:09.26sylvanaarDiao idk
07:11.23theoddone33this 34 hunters vs rag vid is good... it's like a zoo in MC
07:11.37sylvanaarDiao maybe ask AKX bout that one
07:11.58NimbleRabitgod this is so futile
07:12.09NimbleRabitI've been trying to find somebody on armory for like 40 minutes
07:12.40Diaoyeah
07:12.58Diaoan option to lock frame would be nice too so i don't accidentally resize/move it once i have it where i like it
07:13.16Bam__lol.. did they kill Rag before his sons spawned even once?
07:13.25Diaoyes bam
07:13.35Bam__good tactics :P
07:13.50Guillotinehaha, this is awesome
07:13.54Guillotinethe hunter ragnaros kill
07:14.11theoddone33yeah
07:14.14theoddone3334 pets meleeing
07:14.16theoddone33awesome
07:14.17Bam__there are all before TBC right? That is only lvl 60's?
07:14.24theoddone33yeah
07:14.25GuillotineI love how theres 33 cats and 1 pig :P
07:14.34theoddone33I want to se 37 mages + ice lance take down rag
07:14.51theoddone33or 40 level 70 shadow priests
07:14.56Bam__how many 70's would be needed... I wonder
07:15.03theoddone3320 is my guess
07:15.03Solenot that many
07:15.05Soleless
07:15.19theoddone33dunno, some bosses are weird
07:15.19Solemy guild ran a 10-15 guild members + random PUGS naxx
07:15.31Bam__wasn't there a 5-man 70 group that did Onyxia?
07:15.32Solewe got to saph, and couldnt kill him coz the scrubs didnt have frost resist
07:15.37theoddone33we couldn't kill the one boss in ZG with 7-10
07:15.39Solethere was a 3 man
07:15.44Bam__:O
07:15.46theoddone33the one where you kill the shades
07:15.51theoddone33there was just too much going on
07:15.55kebinusanony had been 3 manned at 60
07:16.04Bam__oh
07:16.07Soletheoddone33: hes a hard boss but you shouldve easily got him with 10  lvl 70s
07:16.21theoddone33yeah everyone was tired though since we'd just cleared all of zg
07:16.21Bam__warrior, priest, mage?
07:16.31theoddone33we got hakkar with 7 I think, just before he enraged
07:17.08theoddone33elemental totems made panther boss a joke
07:17.11theoddone33it was hilarious
07:18.05GuillotineBam_: 5 manning Ony is REALLY easy at 70. my guild does it every couple days for money :) about 15 mins work, about 20-30g each
07:18.17sylvanaarone thing dreamchat doesnt do is check that a fontstring will fit in the displayable area
07:18.29Sole60 raid content is hella easy
07:18.33Solenaxx was a joke with randoms
07:18.50Guillotineheck, ony was easy once you beat MC at 60. we 15 manned it with no priests one time
07:18.55Diaoyeah i noticed that sylvanaar
07:19.31theoddone33hm
07:19.49theoddone33ony would be easier for alliance
07:19.52theoddone33but still not hard
07:20.40theoddone33never liked the fight because my guild was kinda amatuerish + all the randomness going around
07:21.19CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35924 10DreamChat/DreamChat_FrameClass.lua: DreamChat: When calling addmessage, just skip it if we have a 0 length string
07:22.15theoddone33before TBC came out and everyone was bored with the game and restless waiting for it, I did a bunch of ony pugs with alts from the top horde guild on the server and they always turned out terrible
07:23.28Solemaybe your server just isnt good
07:23.39Soleif alts from the top horde guild wipe on ony
07:23.58Soleour alts were decked out better than some mains in other horde guilds though :P
07:24.13Silviu-Anyone know a good addon for comparing stats ? that goes along well with ratingbuster ?
07:24.27Guillotinerating buster compares stats now
07:24.29Guillotinethe newer versions
07:24.53Silviu-Odd i have the latest
07:25.16Silviu-I want to see 2 items same time i mean, tooltips for them
07:25.23Guillotineah, nm
07:25.40Guillotinethought you just meant the "250 health (+125)"
07:26.11Silviu-Oh
07:26.14Silviu-Now i see :P
07:26.23Silviu-I never used Rb before
07:26.23Silviu-;)
07:26.45GngskSilviu-, tekKompare
07:27.09Silviu-thx :)
07:27.19Gngskcheers
07:31.26sylvanaari have a suggestion for Ace2, perhaps we can list it as a LoadManager, and have a default load-only stub built into ace2
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07:35.24sylvanaari'll make a post
07:38.31CyrezRallying Cry of the Dragonslayer > Sex
07:39.13CyrezGot it the other day when some peeps killed Onyxia, but died by the minion of the first thing I killed, lol.
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07:44.43Fisker-oh lol
07:44.59Fisker-SC2 has been in developement for 4 years and is in "pre-alpha" stage
07:45.01Fisker-:/
07:45.12Diaolol
07:45.14Diaois that what they said?
07:46.31ZealotOnAStickWell, "development" can be interpreted broadly.
07:47.29Diaowait only 4 years?
07:47.30Diaoo_o
07:47.43Brunersdevelopment is many things
07:47.57rronkivBartender3's button problem is getting annoying! lol
07:48.03kebinusanbutton problem/
07:48.05kebinusan?
07:48.17rronkivi have buttons on my bars, but some of them dont show up unless i open the spellbook
07:48.26kebinusannever had that problem
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07:48.56Arrowmasterthats not a bartender3 problem akaik
07:49.32rronkivWhat is it?
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07:49.54Arrowmastersounds like somethings wrong with your clients caching
07:50.06zoktaranyone know if u can show keybindings on actionbar with infinibar?
07:50.14rronkivgatta reboot, be back
07:51.15grzesieqWhat's so new about starcraft2? All I see is better graphics and same game as sc1.
07:51.46Diaowell
07:51.51Diaoyou can't really improve on perfection
07:51.52Diaobut they did :P
07:51.54Brunersgrzesieq: im guessing thats a good thing, a lot of people still play sc1
07:52.00Diaothere's some new gameplay things
07:52.06Diaounits have more special abilities
07:52.07Brunersand im sure they want better graphics
07:52.08Diaothings like
07:52.11Diaogateways can turn into warp gates
07:52.14Diaowhich work like nydus canals
07:52.16Diaofor protoss
07:52.25Diaoterrain is a whole different game now
07:52.29Diaoyou can't turtle by blocking off things
07:52.32Diaobecause of teleporting units
07:52.38Diaoand units that can traverse that terrain
07:52.51grzesieqye i saw that, nice thing
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07:53.29grzesieqwell, lets hope they'll continue with the mac version tradition ;)
07:53.32vhaarrmy only gripe with SC2 is that it seems micromanaging will be tougher - not because of the added units, but because units are less distinguishable
07:53.37Diaothey will
07:53.46Diaoblizzard already said their games will be released simultaneously on pc and mac
07:53.59vhaarrgrzesieq: go read the FAQ on starcraft2.com
07:54.03Brunerswtb world of starcraft :P
07:54.16Diaowhat do you mean less distinguishable?
07:54.18grzesieqvhaarr: just did :P
07:54.28kebinusanEh, if they did world of starcraft it should be more like planetside
07:54.34vhaarrit's just my impression from the released material
07:54.44sylvanaarwho has a framexml link? 2.1
07:54.49grzesieqi guess some sort of starcraft online could be the 'next-gen mmo'
07:55.09Diaoi'm betting
07:55.13Diaoafter sc2/expansion
07:55.14Diaoor maybe sc3
07:55.17Diaothey'll have a sc mmo
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07:55.23Diaocause that's when wow will pretty much be dead
07:55.50Arrowmasterwas there ever an annoucement about what happened with starcraft ghost?
07:56.02kebinusanDuke Nukem forever ate it
07:56.27vhaarron an unrelated note, I'm trying xchat-gnome, and it freaking sucks balls
07:57.00kebinusanvhaarr: its ok, Im running it atm, but yeah its not the best irc client
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07:57.12vhaarryou can't hide joins/leaves, and it keeps adding funky characters all around, unrelated to my selected font
07:57.32Arrowmasterwtb updated graphical irssi
07:57.37vhaarryes gif
07:57.39zoktaranyone using infinibars i can ask a q or 2 ? =)
07:58.20vhaarrI want to use xchat normal, but I want to spit the author in the face
07:58.20Arrowmasteri like irssi but after using mirc for so long i just cant give up channel tabs
07:58.26grzesieqArrowmaster: irssix or macirssi worked last time I checked
07:58.33grzesieqoh, windows
07:59.15Arrowmasterment for linux, i wouldnt use mac os
07:59.36grzesieqwell, my gvim has clickable tabs, so i guess its doable for irssi aswell
07:59.50Arrowmasterdidnt know about irssix, knew there was an outdated graphical irssi but cant remember the name
08:00.31sylvanaarnvm im retarded - i just extracted it
08:02.01Arrowmasterbah irssix is mac only
08:02.34theoddone33I use colloquy on mac, maybe that's not what the question was
08:02.42theoddone33it's irssi-based
08:03.11theoddone33I used terminal irssi on linux, it was great
08:03.29vhaarrcolloquy is not irssi based any more
08:03.32vhaarrit used to be
08:03.38theoddone33no? hm, ok
08:03.49kebinusanvhaarr:  Theres some extras for xchat to hide joins/parts and such: http://www.digdilem.org/code/xchat/xchat.php
08:04.26vhaarrkebinusan: xchat can do that by default
08:04.33vhaarrkebinusan: I can't get xchat-gnome to do it
08:05.03vhaarrwithout resorting to the cli, in which case I could probably, but I'm not motivated to do that since it has other problems as well
08:05.47vhaarrthe xchat author just displeases me greatly since he charges for the windows version (not that I use it, but anyway), and develops new features for win32 but not the linux client
08:06.09vhaarrwindows xchat is at 2.8.3e or so, and ubuntu is still at 2.8.0, while the latest linux version is 2.8.2
08:07.20vhaarrI'd use chatzilla if it wasn't for the fact that I have to restart firefox every day because of memory issues
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08:08.19theoddone33colloquy is a beast
08:08.28theoddone33I have to close it if I want to do serious pvp
08:08.41theoddone33but otherwise it works
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08:10.16Diaosc ghost was cancelled
08:10.17zoktaris there anyway to show keybinds on bars in infinibar?
08:10.46Cheadsuhm anyone know of an addon with some frames that  are automatically set to the raid targets(icons)?  .. so you can easier target them when you are in combat =)
08:11.18vhaarrcan't do that
08:12.30Cheadsk =(
08:12.32theoddone33sounds like a dumb restriction
08:12.51Soleanybody know the name of the totem timer addon which looks like GotWood in Button display mode, except it also has a green bar filling the icon vertically
08:12.53theoddone33or just something no one thought about exposing
08:13.09vhaarrif they removed that restriction, they'd have to make SetRaidTarget protected
08:13.16vhaarrso addons could no longer set icons
08:13.28NimbleRabithow it is now is better
08:13.45theoddone33protected just means they couldn't do it in combat ?
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08:14.15Arrowmasterdepends, some of the protected stuff cant be done at all ever
08:15.14Cheadsjust would be nice and easy to see all the raid targets somehow =)
08:20.19CryectWell you can have addons that show you the raid targets status
08:20.27Cryectjust not be able to interact with them
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08:27.35CIA-2303cryect * r35925 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua recount.lua tracker.lua):
08:27.35CIA-23Recount: -Combat Time is no longer tracked per player/mob but based on is your group in combat
08:27.35CIA-23-Rewrite of data saving
08:27.35CIA-23-Now tracks current fight, last fight, and overall data (only setup to display overall data at the moment)
08:27.51Diaoo_O
08:27.53Diaowhat's recount
08:28.05CryectThe damage meters addon I've been working on
08:28.17Diaoah
08:28.40Diaowhat's the difference between it and uh
08:28.44Diaosay any other damage tracker
08:29.10CryectEasiest explained with pictures http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6152/recounttest2kc0.jpg http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2680/recountupdatedgraphvn7.jpg
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08:29.29Diaoah
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08:29.44Diaoso it's like recap with graphing?
08:29.48CryectYep!
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08:29.57Diaonice
08:30.01Diaowill it replace recap completely :o
08:30.09Diaoi've been looking for a replacement for a while
08:30.13CryectThats the idea
08:30.23CryectSince I want to replace recap
08:30.27Diaoyay
08:30.31Cryectand I didn't feel like working with the recap code base anymore
08:33.43zoktarwtb keybind text on infinibars =P
08:33.46CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35926 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Support PTR additional playerlink data
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08:36.13NimbleRabitI har talk about infinibars alot
08:36.16NimbleRabitwhat makes them better than bt3
08:37.15Fisker-Cryect is it branched or what?
08:37.20art3misubuntu = African for "those who don't know how to install/configure linux"
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08:38.35Fisker-oh and remove that god fugly scroll bar :(
08:39.14Cryectis what branched?
08:39.49Cryectmy version of Recap was a fork of a fork that incorporated Parserlib but Recount is completely new
08:40.10Diaohawksy's version or something?
08:40.14Cryectno
08:40.19Cryecthis version didn't exist at th etime
08:40.19Diaooh
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08:40.38CryectWas whoever's recap was on wowinterface and working in TBC beta at th etime
08:40.41Fisker-i meant your addon
08:40.47Fisker-because it's not showing up on the site
08:40.48Cryectwas the only working damage meter at th etime
08:41.10CryectHeh yeah there is something wrong with it so it doesn't show up on files.wowace.com
08:41.45Fisker-Have you named you toc correctly?
08:42.22Cryectyep
08:42.52Fisker-not here
08:43.00Fisker-It's "recount.toc"
08:43.03Fisker-should be "Recount.toc"
08:43.27Cryectheh should have guess it cared about capitalization for that
08:43.30Fisker-Might as well capitalize the first letter on your lua's
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08:47.43CIA-2303nymbia * r35927 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-deDE.lua:
08:47.43CIA-23Quartz:
08:47.43CIA-23- Updated deDE, thanks Farook!
08:48.29CIA-2303iceroth * r35928 10IceHUD/modules/CastBar.lua: IceHUD: Fix for channeling lag indicator positioning
08:54.39CIA-2303cryect * r35929 10Recount/ (recount.lua recount.toc tracker.lua): Recount - Temp Change to fix Capitalization
08:55.13CIA-2303cryect * r35930 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount.toc Tracker.lua): Recount - Alright should be fixed hopefully now
08:55.29nymbiai'm suprised wow isn't case-sensitive for tocs
08:55.36Fisker-can't remember if it checks the toc too for capitalization or whatever
08:55.44Cryectwhy would wow be case sensitive
08:56.02Cryectthe windows file system isn't ;)
08:56.31CryectI wonder if WoW is case sensitive for Mac's though
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08:57.08Fisker-probably only if 2 files named the same with different caps exists
08:57.13omega_hms, what is the r35505.100x syntax?
08:57.38ckknighthey all
08:57.48omega_in naming of the zipfiles
08:58.00omega_is it if an embedded library was updated?
08:58.34Cryectyes
08:59.20omega_nice
09:00.02Diaonymbia did you add the option for a numerical swing timer along with the bar yet? I looked but couldn't find it in the options
09:00.44nymbiaDiao: nope, not yet.  remind me in like half an hour :)
09:00.54Diaook
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09:03.36Punkie`morning
09:04.07nymbiaPunkie`: SUP
09:04.29Punkie`YOU!
09:04.34Punkie`you need to fix pt3bar! :D
09:04.35nymbia~flee
09:04.41purlACTION runs away screaming
09:06.31NimbleRabitit always seems odd when I have to shift+click myself
09:06.33NimbleRabitto get prat to update my lvl
09:06.59Cryectyep
09:07.27Punkie`I made my own chat mod based off the things of prat I use and simplechatmods, lowered my initial memory by like 3mb :p
09:07.41NimbleRabitprat's modules are LoD
09:08.03Punkie`they are still read by the game
09:08.09CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35931 10Prat/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Prat: Various tweaks to the AutoLoD mechanism, changed some isvisibles to isshowns (idk why)
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09:08.45Adirellevhaarr: ping ?
09:09.05sylvanaarPunkie` they are niled out - just the same
09:09.31Punkie`sylvanaar: shrug, i believe the game still reads the whole file anyway
09:09.42Adirelle~seen vhaar
09:10.19purli haven't seen 'vhaar', Adirelle
09:10.19sylvanaarPunkie` it does, and then it nils it
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09:10.20Punkie`sylvanaar: so it's still in memory, right?
09:10.20sylvanaarno
09:10.21Punkie`it must be somewhere
09:10.27sylvanaarGC'd
09:10.27Punkie`~seen vhaarr
09:10.36purlvhaarr is currently on #wowace (41m 1s), last said: 'so addons could no longer set icons'.
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09:11.30Punkie`Ok, it could have been the huge savedvariables that lowered my memory then, but hey, im happy :)
09:11.58NimbleRabitlol
09:12.19NimbleRabitinstead of using your time writing an addon that does the same thing prat already does
09:12.23vhaarrPunkie`: sup
09:12.24sylvanaarPunkie` you can see youself on the ptr - and you prolly havent run prat in ages if you have huge sv's
09:12.27NimbleRabityou should go take up my addon request =p
09:12.29vhaarrAdirelle: pong
09:12.35Punkie`vhaarr: Adirelle wanted you :)
09:12.43vhaarrooh, sounds kinky
09:12.43Adirellevhaarr: question about Violation
09:12.48Adirelle...
09:12.53a-stray-catanyone know how to make fubar stretch all the way across the screen if it's not?
09:13.00Punkie`sylvanaar: I ran it literally 3 days ago before I deceded to make my own :)
09:13.04vhaarra-stray-cat: drag the edge
09:13.04a-stray-catmine has this tiny little gap
09:13.07a-stray-catahh
09:13.10sylvanaarPunkie` then you used it wrong
09:13.23vhaarrAdirelle: fire away, just making breakfast here
09:13.28Adirellevhaarr: I'm planning to add pet-master merging
09:13.33Punkie`I used it for what I wanted it to do
09:13.42Punkie`But it doesnt matter, it was pretty good learning from it and SCM :)
09:13.52a-stray-catthanks vhaarr
09:14.00AdirelleI think I'll add "GetData" and "IterateDate" methods into core, and then makes all other methods use thoses
09:14.08sylvanaarPunkie` copy stuff from it - sure - but quit spreading misinformation
09:14.22Punkie`I'm only saying what I saw :)
09:14.26Adirelleanother event handler will take care of tracing hunter/lock pets
09:14.53Adirellewon't take mage/druid/chaman pets into account, because they all have the same name
09:14.59Adirelleany comment on this ?
09:15.51Fisker-sylvanaar reloading index doesn't seem to purge the cache btw
09:16.05vhaarrAdirelle: I don't see why it requires API changes, explain
09:16.23sylvanaarFisker- wait 10 min
09:16.48Adirellenot a module API change, just an change in the way Violation get data from the modules
09:17.18vhaarrthat is a module API change,
09:17.19sylvanaarthe noext cache doesnt get deleted in the current version
09:17.19vhaarr?
09:17.26Fisker-ok
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09:17.45sylvanaarits fixed already
09:17.47Adirelleno. the module will continue to return the data of only one data at a time
09:17.55Adirelles/one data/one character/
09:18.06Punkie`Anyone using SpecialEventsLib LoD?
09:18.31AdirelleI add a thin layer between display and data getting, that will take care of adding data if requested
09:18.36Adirellewait
09:18.40Adirelleargh
09:18.55Adirellecan't simply add some kinds of data
09:18.57Fisker-but pretty awesome speed you got on it
09:19.40sylvanaarPunkie` as for you - prat can run without keeping char info in the sv's, and has user options to clear them. so, you just weren't using it properly
09:19.56Adirellewill be ok for healing/damage done, but not for * per second, crit rates and the likes :(
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09:20.40CIA-2303chuanhsing * r35932 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.toc: AuldLangSyne: add Notes-zhTW
09:20.42Punkie`sylvanaar: It doesn't matter :)
09:20.59Adirelleand I don't ever speak of the fact that adding "damage durations" is a non-sense :/
09:21.05NimbleRabitcladhaire: I love you so much for lightheaded + tomtom.  Why did nobody do this before...my life is so much better now
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09:21.51vhaarrAdirelle: seems to me that for master+pet data merging, only the modules internal calculation needs to change, I don't see how the API has to change at all
09:22.26Adirellethat is another way to see it
09:22.47Fisker-nymbia !
09:22.52Fisker-beginners mistake
09:22.59vhaarrwell, all the data gathering is done in the modules, and they chose what to provide to the core
09:23.10vhaarrso they can just merge the data and provide it as part of the master
09:23.11Fisker-2007/05/20 11:21:13-1072-x1]: Quartz\locale\Quartz-deDE.lua:70: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 3) near 'Zauberrang'
09:23.11Adirelletho, the addon should keep data separated to allow switching between merged and separated views
09:23.25vhaarrright, so we need a global option for it
09:23.43vhaarrbut the modules can read the value of that option and act accordingly
09:23.53sylvanaarNimbleRabit yeah, it doesnt listen for your level up event, but it does update the next time you zone
09:23.54Adirelleand the core can take care of tracking which character is master/pet of which one
09:24.14Leialynnymbia?
09:24.15NimbleRabitahh
09:24.18NimbleRabitwell that's reasonable I guess
09:24.22vhaarrAdirelle: I'm going to eat breakfast so bbl
09:24.31sylvanaarhard to test, ya know
09:24.40NimbleRabitlol
09:24.51Adirellevhaarr: cya, i'm going to a lunch with my parents :p
09:25.26sylvanaarNimbleRabit actually it does register for the event
09:26.49NimbleRabithmm?
09:27.07Fisker-btw Cryect your ui should be liek violation :P
09:32.17sylvanaari guess that your level must not change until after PLAYER_LEVEL_UP is over
09:37.43Diaonymbia- reminder for numerical swing timer as requested :P
09:39.44Adirellenight
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09:42.20CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35933 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: try to fix non-updated level after a level up
09:45.22CyrezOoo, yeah, I noticed that. :-P
09:45.33CyrezUntil I did a /who on myself.
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09:46.33CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35934 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: better way
09:49.42CIA-2303chuanhsing * r35935 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (14 files): BigWigs: add zhTW translation.
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09:59.56Brunerswhat if WAU had an update feature for the program itselfe?
10:06.21nymbiaFisker-: NO U
10:06.28nymbiaLeialyn: pong
10:06.35nymbiaDiao: k :)
10:07.22Leialynnymbia: there is an error in deDE translation, there are some " " missing ^^ please change this: ["Spell Rank Style"] = "Zauberrang Style",
10:07.28CIA-2303kemayo * r35936 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-deDE.lua:
10:07.28CIA-23Quartz:
10:07.28CIA-23- Fix broken deDE localization. (Missing quotes around a translation, of all things.)
10:08.03Diaothat was quick
10:09.08KemayoIt bugged me.
10:10.38nevcairielYou know, i am german .. but i still think those translations just sound wrong.
10:10.50nevcairielGuess thats why i've always played on english client
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10:14.55rronkivhey
10:14.57rronkivare there any addons that i can get
10:14.58art3misnevcairiel: it's prolly because they make sense and arent german rants by some guy on a balcony ;P
10:15.10rronkivthat will automaticlly loot money, and lets say linen cloth, but leave the rest for me to chose?
10:15.18art3misloot filter
10:15.23art3misit doesnt leave the rest
10:15.30rronkivok
10:15.36art3misit just auto destroys certain named things or things of no value
10:15.46art3misas per yer settings
10:15.47rronkivcan i set it to like, pick up green/blue/etc but delete white/gray unless its lets say linen cloth?
10:15.55art3misyup
10:16.01art3misit checks the keep list then the delete
10:16.09art3misso you can keep cloth and delete the other stuff
10:16.48Fisker-no u nymbia :(
10:17.00NimbleRabitwoah a mod like that exists?
10:17.02NimbleRabit*runs to get*
10:17.14nevcairieli generally loot everything for teh money
10:17.46art3misme too
10:17.56art3miscept when im mindless farming ;P
10:18.05art3missome stuff just isnt worth the ride into town
10:18.08nevcairielplus i dont kill mobs which drop line cloth :o
10:18.16art3misbushy tails
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10:18.24art3misshattered jaws and the like ;P
10:18.40art3misthose stupuid crystals that you need like 4 stacks of to get 1 gold ;P
10:18.47nevcairielheh
10:19.07nevcairielyeah i check the prices with SellFish when my inventory is full, and delete stuff then
10:19.13nevcairielbut i loot everything first :P
10:19.17packetlssis DreamChat in a state that is "usable"?
10:20.52Diaotechnically yes
10:21.10DiaozhTW is zhongguo taiwan
10:21.13Diaomeaning chinese
10:21.56nymbiawhich one's traditional and which one's simplified
10:22.06nymbia(between zhTW and zhCN)
10:22.33nevcairielhey i dont even have zhCN translations for bt3
10:22.41nevcairielstupid translators :P
10:22.54nymbiafor a while there they didnt have 2.0
10:23.48nymbiabut yeah there arent nearly as many as there are for korean/french/german
10:23.48nevcairieltrue, i remember that
10:24.29DiaozhCN is chinese-china
10:24.35Diaotaiwan is traditional
10:24.38Diaochina is simplified
10:24.44nymbiaaha
10:25.47nevcairielyay we learned something new here :)
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10:30.45NimbleRabitso
10:31.00NimbleRabitevery alt of mine my target's dmg gets turned off every time I log on
10:31.02NimbleRabitmy main's doesn't
10:31.07NimbleRabitI can't remember how I fixed it on my main..
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10:32.28nymbiatarget's damage?
10:32.47NimbleRabitshow target dmg*
10:32.50NimbleRabitin the interface options
10:33.14NimbleRabitsctd is installed but not enabled
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10:41.27nymbiawhat about sct?
10:43.12NimbleRabityeah it's on
10:43.15NimbleRabitand enabled
10:43.29NimbleRabitsctd is enabled in the addon list, but I have the checkbox off
10:44.04nymbiaoh, well if it's getting loaded, it may be executing some crap even if it's not actually enabled
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10:46.10art3misanyone on echo isles btw?
10:46.40art3mishorde is opening the aq gates at 2:45 EST
10:46.48art3misyaya for new servers and a bug mount!
10:47.06rronkivany enchanters in the house/
10:47.28kenlyricwow.
10:47.35kenlyricI didn't know people still did that.
10:48.00rronkivwhere can i learn my next step of enchanting? i am level 118 and 20
10:48.21art3mishehe
10:48.29art3miswe want the subtely enchant and the bug mount
10:48.36art3misplus we've had nothing better to do
10:48.49art3misjust waiting for gruul resets to get the guild keyed up for ssc
10:49.23art3misrronkiv: i believe its stonetalon?
10:49.30art3mishorde right?
10:50.04art3misstonetalon and then uldaman
10:50.15art3misbest aprt of uld is that you only need to go there once
10:50.35art3misthen get to 300 and level 60 for someone to port ya to shat or hellfire
10:50.37Laricwhat event is triggered when I gain a buff and what event is fired when I loose it? (more specificly when I get innervate)
10:50.42art3misand the teachers there can fix that for ya
10:54.30kenlyricpretty sure you only need 55 to get 375 skill training.
10:57.09Diaonah
10:57.10Diaoit's level 50
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10:58.51rronkivis wow programing easy?
10:58.54rronkivor difficult?
10:59.50kenlyriconly 50?
10:59.53kenlyricsweet.
11:00.08kenlyricsomebody told me I needed 55 to get 375 skinning traning.
11:01.22Diaoyeah it's 50
11:01.29Diaoi trained stuff at 50 after getting a summon to outlands haha
11:04.07theoddone33man I wish I could get my jewelcrafting anywhere near 300
11:04.21evl:)
11:04.28evl375 and all designs!
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11:04.33theoddone33all?
11:04.37evl_all_
11:04.37theoddone33that's pretty good
11:04.47evlmaking about 200g a day cutting
11:04.49theoddone33aren't they adding a bunch in the patch though?
11:04.57evlyeah
11:05.00evlbut i'm exalted consortium :P
11:05.04evlso nvm loool got those two
11:05.05evltoo*
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11:16.20CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35937 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CustomFilters.lua: Prat: Added block option to CustomFilters
11:21.31kenlyricexalted consortium? you sick twisted wierdo.
11:22.06kebinusanits not that hard really
11:22.12kebinusanyou get a ton of rep in heroic mana tombs
11:22.43kenlyricsick and twisted, like I said.
11:22.44CIA-2303helium * r35938 10AutoBar/Locale-zhTW.lua:
11:22.44CIA-23AutoBar:
11:22.44CIA-23- updated zhTW locale
11:23.02CIA-2303helium * r35939 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-zhTW.lua: Bartender3: updated zhTW locale
11:23.30kebinusanthe dataminer for tattle should be multithreaded and do all 3 brackets at once or something, sure takes a while to update the data
11:24.02kebinusanI guess its alot of data heheh, didnt expect it to be running this long tho
11:24.21kenlyricsix hours, I think?
11:24.35kenlyricor is that per bracket?
11:24.52nymbiakebinusan: i thought about it, but slamming blizzard with 100000 requests in a short period of time seemed like a good way to get noticed and shut down
11:24.53kebinusannah, its at 360 minutes so far for all the us data
11:25.27kebinusanhehe, yeah I thought about it too, probably a bit nicer on their server this way, but 2-3 requests at at ime doesnt seem too much
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11:26.44CIA-2303nymbia * r35940 10Quartz/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
11:26.44CIA-23Quartz_Swing:
11:26.44CIA-23- Add some timer text.
11:27.07NimbleRabitwoo
11:27.08NimbleRabitmust try
11:27.33sylvanaarim working on consortium exalted also
11:28.01sylvanaar8060/12k =(
11:28.30CIA-2303whitetooth * r35941 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
11:28.30CIA-23StatLogicLib:
11:28.30CIA-23- L.StatIDLookup is now case insensitive for eazier localization
11:28.31CIA-23- Uses more global strings in english localization
11:28.52Diaoyay
11:28.54Diaothanks nymbia
11:29.13kebinusanwont really matter much, though I'll just schedule it during maintenance
11:30.25evlsylvanaar: 12k -> 21k is pretty rough :)
11:30.39CIA-2303whitetooth * r35942 10TankPoints/ (7 files):
11:30.39CIA-23TankPoints: 2.6.5
11:30.39CIA-23- Pre updated the TOC to 2.1.0
11:30.39CIA-23- Support for Shield Block skill, with options to set mobs attack speed(default 2.0) and average time between Shield Block key presses(default 8 sec)
11:30.39CIA-23- Fixed error when changing options with the Calculator open
11:30.41nevcairieldo more mana tombs heroic
11:31.04kebinusanI hate the last boss
11:31.14kebinusanI think Ive only lived through killing him once
11:31.23nevcairielheh yeah he sucks
11:31.23nymbiaDiao: :)
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11:31.59CIA-2303whitetooth * r35943 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
11:31.59CIA-23TankPoints:
11:31.59CIA-23- Forgot to update the version in code
11:32.28CIA-2303jayhawk * r35944 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (PetInfoFu.lua PetInfoFuLocals-enUS.lua):
11:32.28CIA-23FuBar_PetInfoFu:
11:32.28CIA-23- added support for pet/demon skills
11:33.28CIA-2303jayhawk * r35945 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/PetInfoFu-readme.txt:
11:33.28CIA-23FuBar_PetInfoFu:
11:33.28CIA-23- updated notes
11:33.37nevcairielwho was the waterfall lib author?
11:33.40nevcairieli forgot :D
11:34.20Nargiddleythat would be me
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11:34.46nevcairielah perfect
11:34.59nevcairieli think waterfall has some issues with passValue
11:35.15nymbiai've been hitting it over the head with a
11:35.20nymbialot of passValue stuff
11:35.23nymbiain quartz
11:35.32Nargiddleynot passing when it should to some funcs ?
11:35.37nymbiait's handled it ok, but then again, it's mostly not too complicated
11:35.54nevcairielpeople have been reporting nil errors with my disabled func
11:36.00nevcairielwhen using waterfall ui
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11:36.16nevcairielwonder if i can reproduce it just now
11:36.16Nargiddleyhm, not sure it ever sends it to disabled funcs
11:36.21CIA-2303whitetooth * r35946 10RatingBuster/ (About RatingBuster.txt RatingBuster.lua RatingBuster.toc):
11:36.22CIA-23RatingBuster: 1.1.9
11:36.22CIA-23- Pre updated the TOC to 2.1.0
11:36.22CIA-23- Updated readme file
11:38.44Nargiddleyok it is
11:38.47rronkivgoodnight
11:39.08nevcairielyeah i can reproduce it
11:39.42nevcairielhttp://ace.pastey.net/36168
11:39.49Daemonaok, who is geeky enough to pre-order this: http://store.artlebedev.com/catalog/computer_add-ons/optimus/ ?
11:41.04kenlyricfleeing to the internet now to retrieve.
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11:41.26kenlyriczomg, sex.
11:42.07SeykenHello all
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11:43.00CIA-2303nargiddley * r35947 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: fix for missing passValue to disabled functions
11:43.04Nargiddleynevcairiel, that should do it
11:44.08nevcairielworks :)
11:44.09nevcairielthanks!
11:44.28kenlyricI was expecting something involving a transformer, though.
11:44.50kenlyricthat tactile on that keyboard looks awful.
11:44.54kenlyricthe keys are all completely flat.
11:45.23Nargiddleylooked at the price yet ?
11:45.40kenlyricwould be awesome though to have your keys display your spell icon :)
11:45.44kenlyricyeah, I saw that first.
11:45.46Nargiddleya keyboard worth more than most computers is a bit out there
11:45.56Tornhoofheh the original design was like 300euro?
11:47.25Nargiddleyheh and its not even available till december
11:48.08Tornhoofi dunno, the keys are way too heavy to be good for typing
11:48.11yacoobhehe, story about Polish subtitles translators hit /.
11:48.13kenlyricI really was hoping for a transformer mouse or something.
11:48.17Tornhoofprobably lasts one year or something
11:48.20yacoob"Stupid as /. comment" gets new meaning :)
11:49.50kenlyricblizzard really should tie forum and game accounts together.
11:49.59nevcairielhm
11:50.02kenlyricI bet people would act like assholes a lot less then.
11:50.02nevcairielarent they?
11:50.05NimbleRabitthey are
11:50.10kenlyricnot in banning they aren't :)
11:50.11CIA-2303nymbia * r35948 10Quartz/Swing/Swing.lua:
11:50.11CIA-23Quartz_Swing:
11:50.11CIA-23- Fix bug where hunters backing out of melee range would get no bars.
11:50.14NimbleRabitoh
11:50.16nevcairielno not in banning
11:50.17nevcairielheh
11:50.36NimbleRabitso, I'm making a new twink
11:50.39NimbleRabit29 balance druid
11:50.39kenlyricnot that every forum offense should lead to game punishmenent, but eventually.
11:50.40NimbleRabitthink it will work?
11:50.54kenlyricit's not balance if youa ren't an oomkin.. ;)
11:50.55nevcairielwhy wouldnt it?
11:50.58yacoobvery balanced druid
11:51.02Tornhoofwell cm are the buffer, blizzard knows exactly that they won't last long
11:51.07NimbleRabitkenlyric: hey I have 20 points in balance
11:51.08yacoobyou lie him flat on the ground, he pops up!
11:52.00NimbleRabitanyone know of any weapons a 29 can get that are lvl 35+?
11:52.50nevcairieli smell someone who wants teh epix enchants
11:52.52kenlyricif only...
11:53.06kenlyricNimbleRabit:  you could get them, you just can't equip them.
11:53.15NimbleRabitactually
11:53.21NimbleRabitthere is 1 on horde you Can use and equip
11:53.25NimbleRabitI just don't know of any on alliance
11:53.52kenlyricat level 35?
11:53.56kenlyricor item level 35?
11:54.03nevcairielilvl 35 lvl 29
11:54.09NimbleRabitobtained through questing
11:54.17kenlyricenchants require equip level 35, not item level.
11:54.32NimbleRabityeah, it works if it's through a lvl 35 quest
11:55.07NimbleRabitand quest chains work odd in the fact that if you start a chain at say, 28, you can keep going even if the quest level keeps getting farther away
11:55.08kenlyrichmmm.
11:55.10kenlyricthat's horked.
11:55.16NimbleRabitI already have chest, gloves, and bracers
11:55.20NimbleRabitthat I can get 35+ enchants on
11:56.00NimbleRabitT_T
11:56.25NimbleRabitI leveled my old 29 druid to 30 today, it was a sad moment
11:56.49NimbleRabithe didn't have enough xp left to get the high level items from questing
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11:59.13NimbleRabit*cricket*
12:05.09NimbleRabitskyboat took my suggestion for his mods name
12:05.12NimbleRabit*giddy*
12:05.25kenlyricis that like knightboat?
12:06.01NimbleRabit0.o
12:06.10NimbleRabitask him, I have no idea
12:06.10NimbleRabitlol
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12:07.43CIA-2303whitetooth * r35949 10RatingBuster/ (About RatingBuster.txt images/Sigma.blp):
12:07.43CIA-23RatingBuster:
12:07.44CIA-23- Improved the Sigma icon
12:10.48NimbleRabitwhat sigma icon
12:11.06nevcairielthe summary icon i think
12:11.54NimbleRabitStat Summary?
12:12.02nevcairielyea
12:12.07NimbleRabitI don't think that thing is called sigma
12:12.10Megalonthe greek S
12:12.23kenlyrichas the actual bug in RB been fixed?
12:12.27Megalonthat looks like more like E
12:12.28Megalon;x
12:12.53nevcairielthe mathematical summary icon is actually a uppercase sigma
12:13.01NimbleRabitahh
12:13.06Sais'sum of'
12:13.06Megalonyes
12:13.07NimbleRabitI'm used to sigma refering to
12:13.12NimbleRabitstandard deviation
12:13.15NimbleRabitin statistics
12:13.16Megalonthat's
12:13.20nevcairielthats lowercase sigma
12:13.20Saisthat's lower case ;)
12:13.21nevcairiel:)
12:13.21Megalonthe lowercase sigma :)
12:13.23kenlyricah yes, it has.
12:13.25NimbleRabityeah I get that now
12:13.26NimbleRabitthanks..
12:13.27NimbleRabit=P
12:13.45kenlyricis whitetooth here?
12:13.45sylvanaarevl no joke
12:13.55NimbleRabitmy teacher always got mad at me because I said theta
12:13.57Seykentalknig about greek alphabet... this IRC channel is wonderful
12:13.59NimbleRabitI mean it looks just like theta
12:14.16kenlyricbecause in the last update, he said "Added Support for Human +5% spirit racial.
12:14.21sylvanaarwhat ends at 12k?
12:14.28kenlyricand of course, that was changed to 10% over 5 months ago :)
12:15.22NimbleRabitare rogues a terrible class for heroic mech?  I've been turned down 3 times today
12:15.36nevcairielnoone likes rogues
12:15.43nevcairielaltho ive done every heroic with one
12:15.46yacoobUh. This LOTRO thing is a bit time-space bent
12:16.03kenlyricexplain.
12:16.15kenlyricNimbleRabit: do you have imp sap?
12:16.22yacoobMy character was set to hail from Erebor, after they've retaken it from Smaug. And what is the first scene I see in the game? Thorin gathering dwarves to set off for Smaug... :)
12:16.31SeykenNimbleRabit: was a hunter in your party?
12:16.36nevcairielonly sucky groups care about setup. seriously.
12:16.55nevcairieleveryone claims that rogues ( or melee dps at all ) sucks for heroic
12:16.57ilifinyou kind of want SOME cc
12:16.58kenlyricnevcairiel: pugs care about setup so they don't suck :)
12:17.06ilifinbut can do without
12:17.16ilifinalthough heroic SV isn't possible without cause of the sirens
12:17.17nevcairielyou can do mecha without any cc at all
12:17.23ilifinmecha is np
12:17.25ilifinSV is harsh
12:17.31ilifinwwithout cc
12:17.37nevcairieltrue
12:17.41nevcairielstupid sirens :P
12:17.43ilifinidd
12:17.44SeykenHeroic Mecha isn't difficult, it requires only tanking and DPS
12:17.50NimbleRabitkenlyric: no I don't
12:17.56NimbleRabitsyeren: no
12:18.38kenlyricI think warlocks and rogues will get a lot more heroic love come 2.1.
12:18.47nevcairielwhy warlocks?
12:18.50ilifinoh 2.1, you tease
12:19.01kenlyricbecause they can seduce.
12:19.08nevcairielah
12:19.12kenlyricwhich is a lot safer than fear :)
12:19.18NimbleRabitI want 2.1
12:19.19NimbleRabitfor sap
12:19.19nevcairielheh
12:19.26NimbleRabitand not just for heroics, it's going to own in pvp
12:19.28NimbleRabitI can't wait
12:19.30kenlyricand, it also means they can seduce and fear :)
12:20.55NimbleRabitI just want to do heroics for badges
12:20.58NimbleRabitbut nobody will take me =/
12:21.03ilifinrogue?
12:21.05NimbleRabityes
12:21.15ilifinI'd kill for some rogues with a clue for heroics
12:21.24NimbleRabitThis is why I screw around making twinks
12:21.29ilifinclue being capable of dealing 600 stable DPS
12:21.30NimbleRabitI literally have only done 1 heroic
12:21.37NimbleRabiteven though I've been keyed for all for weeks
12:22.07nevcairiela good rogue is really perfect for heroics, no mana issues or whatever
12:22.44NimbleRabitI like to think I'm good =D
12:22.44NimbleRabitwhen I did heroic ramparts it was pretty cake
12:22.48Neeblerand then sweeping strikes 1 shots the rogue
12:22.54ilifinhah
12:22.58nevcairieland then, sweeping strikes is removed :P
12:23.03ilifinrogue on quagmirran
12:23.04Neeblernext patch, yes
12:23.04ilifinbring 2 healers
12:23.11ilifinone to heal the rogue one to heal the tank
12:23.15ilifinsince rogue eats sooooooooo many cleaves
12:23.16ilifin<_<
12:23.29nevcairielit was a issue at times
12:23.40ilifinI rerolled shaman cause of it
12:23.46ilifinso tired of dying to asscleave
12:23.52Chompersheroics suck at the moment for melee dps
12:23.53nevcairielmelee shaman ? :p
12:23.56ilifinhealer
12:24.06Chompersits pretty bad for me as a dps warrior
12:24.13NimbleRabitin other news
12:24.18NimbleRabitI almost got out dmg'd by a lock in kara today
12:24.23ilifinalthough my rogue has quite sick gear so I'm still looking for people that can match my previous dps >_>
12:24.26Chompersmust suck even more for a rogue :O
12:24.36ilifinNimbleRabit, ALMOST?
12:24.44ilifinany lock with a clue will outdps you while picking their nose
12:24.52nevcairielnah they wont
12:24.56NimbleRabitmeh
12:25.00NimbleRabitI've never been out dmgd in kara
12:25.04NimbleRabitso it was a shocker when he was close
12:25.08nevcairielour rogues outdmg everyone
12:25.08kebinusanfind better warlcoks :-)
12:25.10NimbleRabitactually I take that back, an ele shaman beat me once
12:25.12nevcairielexcept AoE is involved
12:25.17NimbleRabitbut chain lightning is unfair on trash
12:25.19ilifinI was never outdmged on my rogue until warlocks started to get above 1k +dmg
12:25.24ilifinthen they just waved goodbye
12:25.32NimbleRabitMy guild is only to prince in kara
12:25.47NimbleRabitso the locks aren't yet super geared
12:26.07ilifinfun thing is that one of our top dpsers in my 25man runs is a boomkin
12:26.14ilifinshadowpriest, lock, boomkin
12:26.19NimbleRabityeah a boomkin is really high for us in kara too
12:26.25kebinusanhmm actually our rogues were on top for our magtheridon kill: http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=spcq1qfjjx3fw
12:26.32nevcairielthey do sick dmg, but, they dont have any aggro control which sucks, generally.
12:26.36kebinusanthough they did get four heroisms and didnt have to cc in phase1
12:26.53nevcairielmagtheridon isnt really a good comparison .. range dps generally has to click the cubes :P
12:26.55Neeblerooo WoW web stats still works with 2.0?
12:27.13kebinusanyeah all the locks were cube clickers too
12:27.16NimbleRabitonly reason I out dmg my guildies is I have good epic weapons that their gear hasn't caught up to yet
12:27.30Matrix110its quite hard to win against any melee @Mag if they arent clicking
12:27.54kebinusanNeebler: quite nicely actually, though you may need a couple people to combine combat logs for fights like gruul
12:27.58nevcairieljust saying, in our 25 man raids, rogues generally out dmg casters, if the casters dont AoE
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12:28.08nevcairiellike gruul
12:28.10nevcairielrogues on top
12:28.11nevcairielalways.
12:28.17Neeblerit's looking alot better. I used WWS back in the AQ40 days
12:28.28kebinusanhmm lemme see if I have a gruul kill here
12:28.34NimbleRabitYou know what I hate?  Rogues that don't use SnD
12:28.41Matrix110SnD?
12:28.45NimbleRabitthey are surprisingly command and make me want to kill myself
12:29.01NimbleRabitslice and dice
12:29.03hastethere are rogue at L70 that don't use SnD :D ?
12:29.03nevcairielSlice'n'Dice
12:29.09NimbleRabityes
12:29.10Matrix110ah
12:29.12NimbleRabitlots of them...
12:29.25hasteif they are in your guild, teach them how to play :(
12:29.58NimbleRabitnowai
12:30.09NimbleRabitI stay low key in my guilds
12:30.15NimbleRabitso nobody doens't like me
12:30.42hasteheh
12:30.51Neeblerif you're low profile. thats why no one will run a heroic with you!
12:31.09NimbleRabitT_T
12:31.33NimbleRabitwell they should! *crys*
12:31.43NimbleRabithow many badges are the heroic trinkets?
12:31.47haste41
12:31.54Neeblerthroughout the years of playing mmorpgs and raiding in different guilds. the people who stand out/talk on vent get all gear and groups. No matter how much they suck, regardless of dkp
12:32.22NimbleRabitI got kicked from my last guild
12:32.29NimbleRabitbecause people didn't like me and I didn't even know it
12:32.33nevcairielheh
12:32.34Fisker-stupid heroic arcatraz
12:32.54Neeblerthat's the one heroic no one wants to run with me. I need to save millhouse manastorm
12:33.33nevcairielarcatraz is funny, imho
12:33.33NimbleRabitif I want to farm badges what should I run
12:33.33nevcairielmechanar
12:33.34kenlyricI"m incapable of not being well known in most social settings online. I have diarrhea of the keyboard, as stephen king likes to say.
12:33.34SeykenNeebler: it's a gnome, don't save him :p
12:33.34hasteNimbleRabit: sounds like it was one awesome guild :-P
12:33.38kebinusanOur warlocks are generally on top on gruul tho I cant find a wws for a gruul kill handy, but we have pretty bad luck on gruul... he normally spams cavein instead of groundslam/reverb
12:33.40NeeblerI'm a gnome!!
12:33.46NimbleRabit+10 points for stephen king reference
12:33.51Seyken:/
12:33.52NimbleRabithaste: T_T
12:33.54Fisker-just spawned the boss here on one of the waves
12:34.06NimbleRabithaste: I take what I can get as a rogue
12:34.24hasteI have a rogue also :)
12:34.29hastes/have/play/
12:34.43Punkie`NimbleRabit: I find that on my server people need rogues because the majority of rogues do infact suck and fail their trials :P
12:34.44NimbleRabitI go to guild websites and everything says "open" except rogue which is "closed"
12:34.49Neebleryes a rogue named otravi!
12:34.58NimbleRabithaha
12:35.04hasteVery shocking
12:35.09kebinusanwe're recruitng a rogue, but must not suck is a requirement
12:35.24nevcairielwe are looking for rogues too
12:35.27kebinusanproblem with rogues is there are so damn many of em
12:35.29NimbleRabitwow wtf
12:35.32NimbleRabitI want on your guys servers
12:35.32kenlyricNimbleRabit: our guild doesn't need rogues. We already have two.
12:35.48nevcairielwe have only 1 really active rogue
12:35.52nevcairieland 2 semi active
12:35.54kenlyric1 would be fine.
12:35.56nevcairielthats not enough somehow
12:36.02kebinusanone of our rogues has some silly questionnaire he uses to make fun of rogues who app
12:36.04kenlyricit's the tanks and the dps and the healers that we don't hvae :)
12:36.21nevcairielwe are looking for a resto druid right now
12:36.22Punkie`kebinusan: I need a copy of that :)
12:36.36NimbleRabitthe guild I ended up joining has so many rogues I don't know why they even invited me
12:36.43nevcairielpity?
12:36.50hastehaha
12:36.51kebinusanyou know actually I havent read it myself, lemme find it
12:36.52NimbleRabitso I just skip out on karazahn usually since I have most of the gear anyways
12:37.51kebinusanhttp://www.shutupandpull.com/viewtopic.php?t=62  We had one guy list bladeflurry as his favorite finisher
12:37.56Punkie`We have 2 raids of Karazhan, and everything I need drops in the other group :P
12:38.48nevcairielthats normal
12:38.48NimbleRabitmy server is pretty lame, we only have 3 or maybe 4 guilds that run 25 mans and 2 kara groups
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12:38.57kebinusanwe have paladins picking up their third tier 4 set in karazhan simply cause its the only set piece that drops is rogue/paladin
12:39.26NimbleRabitkebinusan: lol blade furry
12:40.19Punkie`kebinusan: Ours is always Mage/Warlock/Hunter :P
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12:40.35NimbleRabit"6. What is your finisher of choice other than Slice and Dice on a boss mob? "
12:40.43nevcairielwe have mage/warlock/hunter on curator and rogue/paladin/shaman on prince
12:40.46NimbleRabitI use eviscerate because I'm too lazy to do deadly/envenom
12:40.47NimbleRabitlol
12:40.59Punkie`NimbleRabit: Then you are an idiot :)
12:40.59NimbleRabitwhen rupture is down that is
12:41.24Punkie`deadly gives better overall boss dps
12:41.31NimbleRabittiny tiny percentage
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12:41.43Punkie`not really, and it's still more
12:41.46nevcairielsome people would kill for 1% more dmg :p
12:41.51kenlyricNimbleRabit: heh, and I bet all the guilds that can only run karazhan refuse to merge.
12:42.07Tornhoofit's less than 1% afaik
12:42.10kenlyricmore > same
12:42.10NimbleRabitkenlyric: yep
12:42.14NimbleRabitway less than 1%
12:42.46NimbleRabit~wtf afaik
12:43.20kebinusan~wtf wtf
12:43.36kebinusan~wtf uafse
12:43.48kebinusan~wtf jfgi
12:44.24NimbleRabitmost of the guilds that only run karazahn think they are doing bigtime endgame and are one of the best guilds on the server
12:44.25kebinusan~botsnack
12:44.25purl:), kebinusan
12:44.26NimbleRabitall of them wrong
12:45.35kebinusanWe're on a server that was brought live 2 weeks before tbc as transfer in only... and the population still sucks
12:45.43NimbleRabit"8. In detail, please list items you would place on your “Wishlist†for a PvE set. Please list all slots including gems for those slots, if you will. "
12:45.45NimbleRabitthis is just mean
12:46.02kebinusanhe likes seeing if they are stacking crit or hit
12:46.04kenlyricNimbleRabit: I would just post a link to my list :)
12:46.11NimbleRabitI don't have a list
12:46.14NimbleRabitthat would take forever for me to put together
12:46.49kebinusansince he's a bit of a +hit whore
12:46.55kenlyricyeah, i'm still not done putting it together.
12:47.23kenlyrichttp://wiki.monolithicguild.com/User:Kenlyric_Wishlist
12:47.39kenlyricand I don't look forward to updating it for 2.1
12:47.40Tornhoof+hit whore is fine
12:47.47NimbleRabitmeh, balance ftw
12:47.52kenlyricthough, since I"m not raiding at the moment, I might not.
12:48.11kebinusanyeah, he's got +300 hit rating
12:48.21NimbleRabitehmm
12:48.21NimbleRabitwtf
12:48.26NimbleRabithow much +hit is that
12:48.36kenlyricall of it?
12:48.53NimbleRabit+hit%
12:49.32kenlyric20%?
12:49.37NimbleRabitis there a command in some sort of ace addon to figure out
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12:49.50kenlyricHit Rating: 15.8 rating grants 1% hit chance
12:50.18kenlyriche's got about 75 too much hit rating.
12:50.25kenlyricthough I guess with offhands you need more.
12:50.26Tornhoofhmm?
12:50.28Tornhooffor a rogue?
12:50.30Tornhoofno
12:50.33Tornhoof300 is perfect
12:50.41NimbleRabit300 is perfect if that formula is correct
12:50.56Tornhoofwell it is correct for lets say +/- 10%
12:50.57kenlyricwhich is why I corrected myself immediately.
12:51.03kebinusan312 is 19.79
12:51.30NimbleRabitdefinitely a +hit whore
12:51.33NimbleRabitto have that much 0.o
12:51.34kenlyricI"m used ot hard 16% hit ratings :)
12:51.41kenlyricerr, hit percents.
12:52.44kebinusanHeh, he wanted to break 300 hit for a while he likes the combat potency procs I guess, http://www.shutupandpull.com/files/312hit_463.png
12:52.52NimbleRabitmy rogue has +13% hit I believe
12:53.16NimbleRabit25% crit
12:54.29yacooblovely skill names
12:54.31yacoobhttp://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Minstrel
12:55.12kenlyricare they any less gay than the class name?
12:55.35kenlyricI don't mind gay, but that's too gay for me.
12:55.54yacoobkenlyric, read it, they're lovely :D
12:56.01yacoobA desperate cry instantly renews the morale of your comrades, but draws a large amount of attention to yourself.
12:56.24yacoob"GO KICK HIS ASS!!!... errr... that wasn't me, Mr. Minotaur... no... you must've misheard..."
12:56.44kenlyrica high threat heal? that's awesome.
12:57.17kenlyricthat's like the exact opposite of prayer of mending :)
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12:59.16kebinusanThe one thing I wish wow did differently was that dodge and parry reduced the amount of damage you took from attacks and not a complete mitigation, it makes the damage way too bursty
12:59.43nevcairielwell, you dodge a swing, that makes sense
12:59.50CIA-2303athou * r35950 10Fubar_CraftTimersFu/ (. Fubar_CraftTimersFu.lua Fubar_CraftTimersFu.toc):
12:59.50CIA-23Fubar_CraftTimersFu: initial commit
12:59.50CIA-23- Keeps track of craft cooldowns for all your characters
13:00.00nevcairielthat parry would let you take 10% of the dmg or so, would make sense
13:00.05yacooblet's make it fuzzy
13:00.10nevcairielsince you have to block that powerful attack with your weapon
13:00.11yacoob"almost dodge"
13:00.14yacoob"nearly dodged"
13:00.22yacoob"would dodge, but was looking in other direction"
13:00.22kebinusanmaimed
13:00.41yacoob"dodged, but broke a nail, ouch!"
13:00.43kebinusanDodged, but mob glanced my lag
13:01.01kenlyrichow many effects are there for missing.. just dodge and parry and misses?
13:01.11kebinusanyes
13:01.46kenlyricand what are misses affected by, just the attackers +hit?
13:02.33kebinusanI think level difference might as well
13:02.40Tornhoofwell def-weaponskill
13:03.00kebinusandefense doesnt affect misses I thought, just dodge/parry/block
13:03.12kebinusanand crits
13:03.18kenlyricnone of those three affect misses, I think.
13:03.24yacoobhttp://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Music well, new possibilities to spammers :DDD
13:03.36CIA-2303chuanhsing * r35951 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Malchezaar.lua Netherspite.lua): BigWigs: fix Karazhan zhTW translation
13:03.48Tornhoofyou just mean the real miss?
13:03.49nevcairiellol
13:03.53nevcairielplaying music :o
13:03.54Tornhoofwhich is displayed as miss?
13:04.00kenlyricTornhoof: yes.
13:04.17Tornhooflevel difference
13:04.29kenlyricand the attackers +hit.
13:04.36yacoobnevcairiel, ingame comment about minstrel from yesterday: "I didn't know you can music something to death..."
13:04.57Tornhoofwell 5% basic, possible 19% malus from dual wield
13:05.01kenlyricyacoob: you've lasted longer than i could.
13:05.12Tornhoof3% miss against bossmobs
13:05.28yacoobkenlyric, haha, I'm enjoying this in a sick kind of way!
13:05.38yacoobbut few more minutes and I'll need a medical attention X_x
13:06.06kenlyricthat game is just wrong on many deep levels.
13:06.54nevcairieli am not exactly sure if i should try LOTRO
13:07.20CIA-2303athou * r35952 10Fubar_CraftTimersFu/:
13:07.20CIA-23Fubar_CraftTimersFu:
13:07.20CIA-23- adding externals
13:07.35kenlyricnevcairiel: either you don't care about the lore, or the presentation of the lore pisses you off :)
13:07.35yacoobkenlyric, why? I found it more or less copy of wow, with some things thrown in
13:07.49kebinusanI havent heard anything about that would make me switch from wow
13:07.55kenlyricyacoob: except for the almost utter lack of solo play past the first few levels.
13:07.56nevcairielkenlyric: i would care about the lore, so i guess nothing for me
13:07.57yacoobbut you have the point, about quite a nice book being demythized :)
13:08.19kenlyricnevcairiel: every starting zone I was in, i'd think things like "no way gildor would say anything so dumb"
13:08.27yacoobkenlyric, but then you get.... GROUP COMBOS!
13:08.41yacoobhttp://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Fellowship_Maneuvers
13:08.43Tornhoofthat music stuff is just plain weird
13:08.46kenlyricand the movement is all icky.
13:08.54Tornhoofi play wow without sound
13:09.00yacoobnamely, humans throwing dwarves and hobbits at enemy :D
13:09.03nevcairieli couldnt play without ingame sound
13:09.15kebinusanI dunno I wish wow was a bit more immersive with things like music or better in game fishing
13:09.16NimbleRabitI never really played wow with sounds
13:09.18NimbleRabitare they nice?
13:09.23Tornhoofdunno
13:09.26kenlyricyes.
13:09.29kebinusanhell rpgs for playstation had much better fishing than wow
13:09.31Tornhoofi stopped them a long time ago
13:09.31kenlyricTBC in particular.
13:09.40nevcairieli dont care about nice, but i would simply miss some events.
13:09.44NimbleRabitI imagine them being icky like WOOSH WOOSH SPPPSPPPP
13:09.48kenlyricthat first time you engage a boss in MC and get the combat music... how can you miss that.
13:09.51NimbleRabitor something similarly ugly
13:10.08NimbleRabitnevcairiel: events?
13:10.17nevcairiellike a rogue sneaking up on me
13:10.19kebinusanId really like to see more mini games and guild halls tho
13:10.20nevcairielthat stealth sound
13:10.21yacoobNimbleRabit, KA-POW!
13:10.27kenlyricsome zones have awesome sound.
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13:10.34kenlyricnagrand, for example, has great ambient sound.
13:10.45yacoobrogue's stealth sounds annoyingly like star trek TOS camouflage :D
13:10.57NimbleRabitmeh I don't need to hear rogue sound
13:11.02yacoobspeaking of ambient sound, nothing beats... GNOMEREGAN!
13:11.04NimbleRabitI think I'll leave them off =P
13:11.07kenlyricif lotro offered more solo content and housing and more rp stuff, I might like it.
13:11.17yacoobmusic that makes you want to slit your wrists after half an hour
13:11.25nevcairiellol
13:11.33kenlyricbut right now it's just a crappier version of WoW in a world I know far better than the designers.
13:11.37nevcairielthe new voice overlays in raid dungeons in 2.1 are nice
13:11.40NeeblerI loved EQ sounds.
13:12.07Tornhoofwell i listened to that wow soundtrack in the collectors edition once
13:12.11kenlyricnevcairiel: yes, because it's an even better reason to yell at people who don't do what they're supposed to on shade. Because he says it out lOUD too.
13:12.13Tornhoofthats i think enough of music in wow
13:12.13Neeblertheir was the one quinessential sound in EQ that everyone knew, and I think 80% of the spells sounded liek it
13:12.22nevcairielkenlyric: i bet alot people claim that. ive read the books like 3 times, and watched the movies way too often .. so i guess wrong lore would annoy me :p
13:12.39yacoobthe problem with lotro is (for me) that the book is really "epic" - the heroes do not stink, do not have bad days, are pure and valiant. Well, mostly.
13:12.43kenlyricnevcairiel: I lost count at 20, and I have the entire History of MIddle Earth series too :)
13:12.49yacoobAnd here you see noble dwarf hopping around like a madman
13:12.55kenlyricand the dialogue in that game is just all wrong at every level.
13:13.21kenlyricwell, I odn't know about every level, I couldn't make it past 4.
13:13.28nevcairielhehe
13:13.33kenlyricbecause it was taking me like 20 minutes to kill each mob.
13:13.37nevcairielis there some free trial or something?
13:13.42yacoobnot anymore
13:13.44kenlyricI sang at it and sang at it and it wouldn't die.
13:13.49nevcairiellol
13:13.56yacoob"DIE, DIE DIE MY DARLING!" *mob dies*
13:14.09kebinusanI love Aran
13:14.13CIA-2303kebinusan * r35953 10Tattle/ (15 files in 15 dirs): Tattle: Update US Data
13:14.15kebinusanthe voice acting makes him a real fun fight
13:14.31kenlyricand looking it, the combat potential of the healing classes doesn't fill me with promise. But I guess if there's no solo content past 20, it doesn't matter much.
13:14.47yacoob<small>that's why I like GW, with skills being planned with tongue in cheek, like "None shall pass!" :)</small>
13:14.50kenlyrickebinusan: it can be bad though, when the voice bugs out :)
13:15.00yacoobkenlyric, hey, healers get feign death, that's good!
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13:15.26nevcairielheh
13:15.40kenlyricwe had one AE that bugged out completely... no voice, no text, no pulling everyone in. Just a mysterious slow effect.
13:16.14nevcairielget bossmods! :o
13:16.34kenlyricit didn't trigger.
13:16.36yacooband you don't get damage from falling in LOTRO 8)
13:16.40nevcairielmmm
13:16.46kenlyricor it's possible I just didn't notice it trigger.
13:17.12yacoob(because there's no 'health' or 'hp', it's morale, and it's hard to lower your morale with just a plain ground hit :)
13:17.22kenlyricno, it didn't trigger the bossmod warning.
13:17.40kenlyricreally, I had no idea it was AE until it exploded and killed half the raid :)
13:17.45nevcairiellol
13:18.41kenlyrici had just enough time to see slow, think "why do I have slow", remove slow, then think "did I miss an AE call" and move to the side.
13:18.42KinkxSo you die when your morale gets too low? That makes perfect sense to me
13:18.51kenlyricbecause sometimes your resist the pull in.
13:18.58kebinusanthen you get emo and self mutilate
13:18.58kenlyricyou don't die.
13:19.38kenlyricit wasn't till after the explosion and we talked about it that Ir ealized no, I didn't miss a call, and nobody else got pulled in either.
13:20.01kebinusanif yous tand under the edges of the bookcase you get stuck when he tries to pull you in
13:20.05CIA-2303athou * r35954 10Fubar_CraftTimersFu/ (. Fubar_CraftTimersFu.toc):
13:20.05CIA-23Fubar_CraftTimersFu:
13:20.05CIA-23- fixing externals
13:20.17yacoobargh, youtube is full of people playing various music in lotro
13:20.19yacoobit's sick!
13:20.21yacoobI like it!
13:20.24yacoob*watches some more*
13:20.26kebinusanlink?
13:20.30kebinusanlemme see some of this
13:20.42yacoobhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktb9njrhk3g
13:22.00kenlyricwtf, l2timing.
13:22.19kebinusangreat, people standing around playing dust in the wind
13:22.25kebinusanthat'll make me mute my game sound real fast
13:22.50kenlyricyou know why this is the game?
13:23.13kenlyricbecause tolkien had a great love of music and had many songs in his works.
13:23.18kenlyricNobody who loves music could like that shit.
13:24.06yacoobhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CuDS0CVwLA
13:24.18CIA-2303laotseu 072.1.0 * r35955 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua:
13:24.18CIA-23AllPlayed:
13:24.18CIA-23-- Just a bit of house cleaning
13:24.23yacoobreminds me of folks that play in underground passages
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13:25.06nevcairielthats so destroying the game feeling
13:25.31yacoobhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xaa5uF3qAOU - new meaning to word 'dance video'
13:25.42kebinusanand I thought the piccolo of flaming fire was bad
13:27.54kenlyrichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg this is clearly better.
13:28.35NimbleRabitI have that piccolo
13:29.11yacoobyou want nice music video? here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXH_TIDrZVA
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13:33.27NimbleRabitpurl is a really cool bot
13:34.36NimbleRabitwhere does it come from
13:34.52Neeblerpurl is slow in the head
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13:35.07Neeblerpurl 2+2
13:35.08purl4
13:35.38Neeblerpurl 6407972363608/300+54-2
13:35.39purl21359907930.693332672119
13:35.49nevcairiellol
13:36.02Neeblerpssh I could of calculated that faster
13:36.15nevcairielpurl sqrt(181)
13:36.18nevcairielaww
13:36.19nevcairiel:p
13:37.02Neeblerpurl 64*468(30)/2+45.3
13:37.03NimbleRabitso where does it come from
13:37.25nevcairielyou have some syntax errors in there
13:37.45NeeblerI'll syntax you!
13:37.54nevcairielno one syntaxes me!
13:38.21NimbleRabit64 times 468 times 30, all divided by 2, then add 45.3
13:38.24NimbleRabitwhat is wrong with it?
13:38.45Neebleroh btw, add an option to change the color of all buttons in bartender3, k thx.
13:39.07yacoobhttp://www.lotro.com/article/342 - this is a good idea though, something that reflects the Tolkien's writting
13:41.09kenlyricyacoob: yes, but if it stands true to form, it's implementation is fubar.
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13:41.29yacoobkenlyric, more info?
13:46.22Neeblerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sM32g2weAc
13:46.23Neeblerahahah
13:47.43yacoobhttp://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Monster_Play_Titles now this is actually interesting
13:47.54yacoobyou can farm other people 8)
13:48.13yacoob- What are you doing, still farming Minstrells?
13:48.21kenlyric“You are known as a tormenter of the Free People.â€
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13:54.23Panyedid anyone here use to use Musicstream when it used it actually used to stream music
13:55.42Panyeno one?
13:58.49Panyeanyone there?
13:59.01Sarozwow could do that yacoob
13:59.06Saroz"Slayer of Magtheridon" etc
13:59.08Sarozbut they wont
13:59.33Sarozcause they don't understand how cool that would be :p
13:59.43Chompersimagine the e-penis problems it would cause
13:59.49yacoobtitles? well.
13:59.54Kinkx"Scarab Lord"
13:59.58Panyetest!!
13:59.59Sarozyes
14:00.01KinkxSure they will add more cool ones, eventually
14:00.03Saroz"Justicar"
14:00.08yacoob"I have no life" for maxing out all, and I mean ALL factions rep
14:00.13Chompers"slayer of hogger"
14:00.20Chompersi take it back, i want that one
14:00.26yacooband Legendary slayer of hogger!
14:00.28Sarozwell they could just award titles as you kill end bosses
14:00.30Sarozbut meh
14:00.47yacoobno, not for bosses...
14:00.49yacoobfor whole instances
14:00.53KinkxThe top Arena teams gonna get some nice titles :o
14:01.01Panyecant people see this text?
14:01.03yacoob"Pwnzor of ZulGurub"
14:01.11KinkxPanye, we can see it
14:01.13ChompersArena is so frustrating
14:01.16Saroztrue Kinkx
14:01.18Panyephew!! cheers
14:01.43yacoob<small>http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Titles</>
14:02.18Chompersi've found the most stupid name of all time
14:02.25Chompers"davethadawg"
14:03.16Kinkxat leasts it's descriptive ;p
14:04.32Panyedoes anyone have a list of the radio streams which were once used in Musicstream? ... there was a radio stream in there which I loved listening to
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14:12.46Fisker-anyway you can share all herbalism notes to the guild?
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14:13.26Chompersupload your herb SV file then share it like that?
14:13.37Fisker-bah
14:14.58Panyedoesn't cart have a note share?
14:16.58Fisker-yeah
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14:17.02Fisker-doesn't accept æøå
14:18.17hasteyou write your notes in danish?!
14:20.21Panyebah, cant find the streams that Musicstream used to use...
14:23.03CIA-2303Octane666 * r35956 10SpamMeNot/ (7 files): (log message trimmed)
14:23.03CIA-23SpamMeNot:
14:23.03CIA-23- Spammers can now be automatically or manually queued to be reported.
14:23.03CIA-23- Reports can be sent in 2 clicks if the spammer has been automatically queued.
14:23.03CIA-23- The report can be customized using a new template editor.
14:23.03CIA-23- Monitoring of the trade channel is now optional.
14:23.04CIA-23- Fixed a bug where hyperlinks were not being stripped from the text properly before analysis.
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14:28.54Xuerianinstead of all these verification systems and such, why not just setup a few string:match criteria? If a message has a web address, a $ amount, the word "Gold" or "Power leveling" or "PL" and FREE....
14:29.29XuerianPaired with a length check first to avoid checking all those things unless it's one of those "Must... use... every... letter.... to...spam!" things.
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14:32.01NimbleRabitspamsentry made a false positive for me today
14:32.02NimbleRabitfirst ever
14:33.53dodgizzlaDreamChat has its problems with messages that are too long.. they are displayed over the frame :o
14:37.22vid`http://www.chinesegoldfarmers.com/
14:37.51Fisker-done tons of false positives for me
14:38.07Fisker-pretty much when someone says buy/sell/trade and has a url in it
14:38.20NimbleRabitright...
14:38.23NimbleRabiti've never had somebody do that to me
14:38.26NimbleRabitthat wasn't a gold seller
14:41.48Pucmelgold gold gold
14:41.49Pucmelhere you go
14:47.14vid`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRrhpoMd88Y&mode=related&search=
14:47.19vid`wow
14:47.22CIA-2303athou * r35957 10Fubar_CraftTimersFu/ (4 files):
14:47.22CIA-23Fubar_CraftTimersFu:
14:47.22CIA-23- hide seconds for timers
14:47.22CIA-23- only show one transmute for alchemy since they all are on the same cooldown
14:47.22CIA-23- added frFR localization
14:47.26vid`group of chinese farmers running 40 man raids
14:47.35vid`thats crazy :P
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14:52.38Fisker-anyone got the herbalism database link on their hand?
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15:01.00wobindhm
15:01.06wobinno false positives for me so far
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15:03.26hyperChipmunkyou all suck!
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15:04.10hyperChipmunkbow before me and hail me as Lord of Win-ness!
15:05.06kenlyricI think of worse chinese sweatshops to work in.
15:05.09MegalonhyperChipmunk: nice to now that you would win all contests of gayness
15:05.21Megalons/now/know/
15:05.21Megalon;P
15:05.33hyperChipmunkdo not mock me, mortal
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15:06.28Megalonso you are gay and immortal? poor you :[
15:07.10kenlyricit's interesting that they call themselves professional gamers.
15:07.22kenlyricwhich I guess is pretty true. They are payed to play.
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15:18.45arcanefoamtechnical question: I had to do a system restore on my PC, and now the tortoise info in my PC doesn't match the one in the wowace trunk so I can't upload the cahnges to my mod
15:18.55arcanefoamany way to fix it?
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15:19.45Xueriando a update first?
15:20.16arcanefoamok, letme try that
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15:34.31CIA-2303arcanefoam * r35958 10FuBar_CTRaidFu/ (4 files):
15:34.31CIA-23FuBar_CTRaidFu:
15:34.31CIA-23- Corrected enUS localization, added a 'Convert to Raid' option, menus are only
15:34.31CIA-23available if u are in a Raid and you are the Raid Leader or an Officer, some
15:34.31CIA-23functions no longer call the CT_Raid /command but use CT_Rais functions
15:34.32CIA-23directly.
15:37.14Fisker-FuBar_CTRaidFu :/
15:38.00XuerianYeah <_<
15:38.54XuerianOk, while dogtag is fully documented, it's hardly got any examples, and I'm not grasping while this isn't working, to show curhp if not maxhp :P [CurHP:Hide(MaxHP):Short:Color(ff7f7f)]
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15:41.32MegalonXuerian: IsMaxHP instead of MaxHP?
15:41.53Xuerianthat.... would.... make sense... >_>
15:42.24CIA-2303laotseu 072.1.0 * r35959 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua):
15:42.24CIA-23AllPlayed:
15:42.24CIA-23/allplayed now call a dewdrop menu (I've stolen some code from Quartz, big thanks to Nymbia).
15:42.24CIA-23I toyed with the idea of using Waterfall but in the end, I don't think AllPlayed would really benefit from using it.
15:42.51Xuerian[~IsMaxHP?CurHP:Short:Color(ff7f7f)] woo.
15:42.55XuerianMegalon: Thanks :P
15:43.51MegalonXuerian: so that was my good deed for the day
15:44.25Megalontime to insult some random people on the guilds teamspeak
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15:44.49XuerianXD
15:45.08ThorgardAnyone know of an 'auto attack' bar mod? Basically a bar that counts down/up to the next auto attack?
15:45.41knarf-Thorgard think swingtimer is the correct term :)
15:45.47Angry_Dwarfthere was one a while ago called "swinger", but I have no idea if it's been updated
15:45.50XuerianThorgard: Quartz does it
15:45.57XuerianQuartz does EVERYTHING :D
15:46.16XuerianWhile allowing you to disable the casting bar, of course. What kind of ace mod would it be if you couldn't disable the core and use the pugins?
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15:47.37ThorgardNuts. A'right, will have to check it out.
15:49.33mexicaanHi, If I got a unit name, can I than somehow get its UnitId, and use that for the UnitIsPlayer method ?
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15:52.43mexicaan?
15:53.31nevcairielin a raid?
15:54.22mexicaangroup or raid
15:55.37nevcairielyou can cycle through all units like UnitName("raid1-40") and check if its the name you have
15:55.59nevcairielor party1-4
15:57.30mexicaanhmm, i want to use it in ombination with parserlib, and doing that on all events combat events might be a bid overkill, thanks anyway
16:00.07nevcairielyou could obviously cache that
16:03.23kenlyriccrap, my game time doesn't expire until july 23.
16:03.26mexicaanhmm true
16:04.31CIA-2303gamefaq * r35960 10OneBag/localizations/deDE.lua: OneBag - deDE Update and changed Format to UTF-8
16:04.46CIA-2303gamefaq * r35961 10OneBank/locals.lua: OneBank - deDE Update
16:04.57CIA-2303gamefaq * r35962 10OneRing/locals.lua:
16:04.57CIA-23OneRing -
16:04.57CIA-23deDE Update
16:05.12CIA-2303gamefaq * r35963 10OneView/locals.lua: OneView - deDE Update
16:05.29kenlyricmany germans in bags.
16:07.23unduToo many if you ask me.
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16:17.11dodgizzlais there any addon to keep track of procs, e.g. from elder scribe robe?
16:19.46Gnarfozprocwatch?
16:20.16kenlyricit's a race!
16:20.32CIA-2303sorren 072.1 * r35964 10SorrenTimers/ (5 files):
16:20.32CIA-23SorrenTimers:
16:20.32CIA-23- Touched up enemy skill detection
16:20.32CIA-23- Added enemy skill options
16:20.32CIA-23- Added buff tracking options again
16:20.33CIA-23- Purged BG timers, other mods do that better anyway
16:21.46Chompers:o
16:23.21harl|WoWis it is it possible to make DreamChat have an individual editbox for each of its frames ?
16:23.26harl|WoW-is it
16:23.32harl|WoW(i'm not stuttering)
16:23.45AKXharl|WoW, it's possible if you implement it.
16:24.21harl|WoWdo you plan on implementing such a thing ?
16:25.06AKXWould it be needed?
16:25.36kenlyricdammit!
16:25.59Megalonpoor wau
16:26.20kenlyricthat'll teach him.
16:27.25Megaloni don't think he'll learn that much
16:27.34Megalonafter you stabed him into his head :X
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16:28.58NimbleRabitXuerian: exactly, if you can't disable all the core functionality and use only obscure plugins it just isn't ace
16:29.02kenlyricI stabbed my settings into him
16:29.07kenlyricso he won't forget them again.
16:29.21AKXhttp://akx.ath.cx/laptops.php
16:29.27AKXWhich one would you choose?
16:29.51XuerianNightHawkTheSane: Amen
16:29.54kenlyricseriously, it has a file called WowAceUpdater.exe.config... what could that possibly be for?
16:30.18NimbleRabitXuerian: did you just type Ni -> tab?
16:30.25Xuerianoh
16:30.25Xuerianuh.
16:30.27XuerianNo.
16:30.28NimbleRabitlol
16:30.33XuerianI ... meant to do that
16:30.37Xuerianyeah
16:31.33kenlyricso what is the point of WowAceUpdater.exe.config if it doesn't store settings.
16:31.39kenlyricand where are settings stored?
16:31.43NimbleRabitso lets say I wanted to get started writing addons but I'm a complete moron, how do I start
16:31.54Xuerianakx: The bottom one! it has the biggest numbers!
16:32.00NimbleRabitassume COMPLETE moron, it will make things easier for all of us
16:32.09AKXXuerian, my thoughts exactly.
16:32.40XuerianAnyway, any Intel* are off the list
16:32.44vhaarrNimbleRabit: There's a tutorial section on wowace.com.
16:32.47Xuerianintel graphics that is
16:32.59AKXAgreed Xuerian
16:34.15CIA-2303sorren 072.1 * r35965 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers.lua:
16:34.15CIA-23SorrenTimers:
16:34.15CIA-23- Changing fubar options
16:34.21NimbleRabitvhaarr: k I'll check that out
16:34.33XuerianYeah bottom one. Why are we looking at a list of laptops, anyway?
16:34.45yacoobAKX, well, it depends on the purpose... also, what operating system are you going to use
16:35.05yacooblet's lok at the list of naked ladies!
16:35.06harl|WoWAKX: well. "need" is a very subjective thing, so, thinking of multiple chat frames, my personal opinion would make me find that a chat add-on would need multiple editboxes as well, yes. - but that's just me after all.
16:35.17Xuerianyacoob:  Naked ladies == Pricey laptops
16:35.23XuerianBoth go on your laps, both cost a lot
16:35.25Matrix110kenlyric do it like i did change em in Editor and disallow changes:P
16:35.26Xuerianboth turn you on :D
16:35.27AKXXuerian, because I'm acquiring one of those in the near future. And Vista, likely, since it's preinstalled.
16:35.36Xuerianewwwww
16:35.41Xuerian>.o
16:35.45kenlyricMatrix110: but where are they intalled?
16:35.49kenlyricit's not in this file.
16:36.07Matrix110the config is just inside the wowaceupdater folder Oo
16:36.26kenlyricit's not though.
16:37.24Matrix110for me it works:P
16:37.24harl|WoWAKX: i would as well want it to create and close frames dynamically, pop-up balloony quick messages and have a mouse-over sensitive spot to make it show certain frames or other elements. :-p
16:37.26kenlyricWowAceUpdater.exe.config not updated even though I changed settings.
16:38.01Vangualthe .exe.config does store the settings but it does store them only for the version that wrote it
16:38.02kenlyricodd thing is, it keeps my settings somehow until I update the binary.
16:38.02Matrix110i changed the wau.vshost.exe.config aswell
16:38.17AKXharl|WoW, I would also like a horde of naked Kaldorei maidens at my beck and call, but alas, I'd have to implement them myself. ;P
16:38.19kenlyricMatrix110: no such file seems to exist.
16:38.42Matrix110hmk
16:38.44Matrix110weird:P
16:38.47harl|WoWAKX: yea... :)
16:38.58kenlyricVangual: it's not at all.
16:39.03kenlyricthe file was last updated in february.
16:39.23Xuerianakx: Where'd you scrape that list from anyway?
16:39.53AKXXuerian, HP's Finnish website, with the help of a few custom Python scripts, manual data massaging, Excel and PHP. Why so? :P
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16:40.08AKXAnyways, those are the laptops I can get a discount for, that's why.
16:41.02Xuerianakx: Ahh. Nice. I was curious :P
16:41.35kenlyriccould it be storing settings in the registry?
16:43.18Xueriankenlyric: It's a windows app.
16:43.23FrostByghtein pitbull in the name text [IsPet?Name:Gray!Name:White]  shouldn't that show any pet as grey and everything else as white text color?
16:43.25Xuerian"Could" is a funny thing :p
16:43.46kenlyricXuerian: lots of windows apps don't use the registry.
16:43.52FrostByghteseems to not work on enemies from what I can tell
16:43.55kenlyricor if they do, they don't also use a config file.
16:44.22kenlyricand also, if they do, they don't hork the settings every time you update :)
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16:44.44FrostByghteactually seems to not work at all lol....so just curious what I need to do to show pets as gray text?
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16:47.43FrostByghte[IsPet?Name:Gray!Name:White] is that formated correctly?
16:49.16FrostByghtebasically using pitbull I'm trying to easily see when I have a pet targeted or a player
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17:04.29nevcairielvhaarr: i think your XRS cleanup disabled the buff check option, somehow .. /me checks code
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17:05.45vhaarrnevcairiel: yeah it borked lots of things
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17:07.15nevcairielwonder if i can fix it
17:07.22nevcairielits annoying me not to have that :P
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17:11.08CIA-23Buffalo2:
17:11.08CIA-23- typo fixed
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17:18.07sylvanaarwau settings get copied to your machine.config thats where it gets the defaults from, there is some setting you make to tell it not to do that, but i dont know what it is and dont feel like looking
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17:20.10CIA-2303nevcairiel * r35968 10XRS/XRS.lua: XRS: fix for not showing the leader menu
17:22.06sylvanaarhes not even here
17:30.00CIA-2303nimbal * r35969 10Buffalo2/Buffalo2.xml:
17:30.00CIA-23Buffalo2:
17:30.00CIA-23- Fixed buff cancellation
17:30.35Azurewrathmhm.. anyone know an addon that just auto-sells grey crap, like the minimalist feature? Grennon mentions an Addon named Auto-Profit but i can't find it...
17:31.40CIA-2303nevcairiel * r35970 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3.toc Bartender3_BarStates.lua): Bartender3: cleanup
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17:33.38Punkie`Azurewrath: I use GarbageFu but you need to click the recycle bin in the vendor window then it will sell all your greys
17:33.57Azurewrathmhm.. i guess i can live with that, thanks :)
17:34.37Punkie`It's quite neat, shows how much you are going to make from greys in your inventory too :)
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17:36.02knarf-Azurewrath automaton does it too
17:36.10knarf-I think thats the one atleast :P
17:36.22CartassAnyone here an MTU expert? :P
17:36.26wobinblah
17:36.35wobin1k to exalted with Kurenai
17:36.40wobinbut it'll have to wait til tomorrow
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17:37.27Azurewrathknarf-: mhm well.. maybe, but it does a ton of other things that i don't want.. guess i'll try GarbageFu
17:38.31Punkie`wobin, gief mr.plow2 :(
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17:44.47hyperChipmunkckknight: http://wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#toggle is ambiguous; what is v in the set function?
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17:46.10wobinthe opposite
17:46.18wobinfalse if the current value is true etc
17:46.30Chompersis there any way to turn off the gladiator spam?
17:46.39hyperChipmunkhow does it know which value you want?
17:46.44wobinIt's a toggle
17:46.57wobinit'll be whatever it's not
17:47.07hyperChipmunkwhatever WHAT's not
17:47.18wobinThe get value, I'd say
17:47.45hyperChipmunkmaybe you would; but this doesn't!
17:47.50wobinIt doesn't?
17:48.06wobinodd
17:48.17hyperChipmunkit's worded real funky
17:48.35wobinnot really...
17:48.40hyperChipmunkmaybe i'm stupid
17:48.42wobin<PROTECTED>
17:48.42wobin<PROTECTED>
17:48.50wobin<PROTECTED>
17:48.50wobin<PROTECTED>
17:48.59wobin<PROTECTED>
17:49.08wobinor function thereof
17:49.34wobinso the set function 'v' will be the opposite of the 'current value' as returned from 'get'
17:49.36hyperChipmunkis that a directive that you should make it return the opposite, or is it saying that the opposite value of the current value will be passed to this function
17:49.51wobinThe opposite value of the current value will be passed to this funciton
17:50.39hyperChipmunkyea, well
17:50.40wobinIt's not really returning anything
17:50.41hyperChipmunkyou smell
17:50.44wobinkk
17:50.49wobinI'll go have a shower and head to bed =)
17:50.56wobinit's far too late for a workday
17:52.00Kemayowobin: You were looking for me yesterday?
17:52.11wobinIt resolved itself, Kemayo =)
17:52.13wobinNo worries
17:52.22wobinand the gui looks nifty
17:52.57wobinI just had to run the script once as a CLI before it was able to run properly as a gui
17:53.23KemayoHuh.  I'll have to work out why that is.
17:57.06harl|WoWi wish EmoteFu wasn't closing its menu when i click an emote
17:57.58harl|WoWand that it had an option to 'favorise' some of them
17:58.04AKXharl|WoW, it has a fav option
17:58.05AKXshift+click
17:58.34AKXWhy do you have so much to say about MY addons?!
17:58.36AKX=D
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17:59.11harl|WoWoh. shift+click is nice then
17:59.28AKXThe favorited emotes will appear on the (detachable) tablet too.
17:59.32harl|WoWAKX: maybe because i like them :)
17:59.41AKX^^
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18:04.39ravagernl~seen chuckg
18:04.43purlchuckg <i=chuckg@66-238-4-197.starstream.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 22h 55m 44s ago, saying: 'Yea, some squid caching error.'.
18:04.58ravagernlhmm :P
18:05.44yacoobuaaaah
18:06.10yacoobthird party tool for eve online to plan character developement, with notifications 'hey, log on and enqueue next skill!' :D
18:07.04FrostByghte[IsPet?Name:Gray!Name:White] I was trying to use this in pitbull in the name of the target frame but it doesn't seem to have the desired result...any ideas?
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18:22.02CIA-2303nevcairiel 072.1 * r35971 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
18:22.02CIA-23Bartender3:
18:22.03CIA-23- merged some changes over
18:22.03CIA-23- added config version tagging and update notice
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18:23.09CIA-23SpamMeNot:
18:23.09CIA-23- Fixed minor pattern matching bug
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18:35.31Punkie`Is there a way to see how many applications of a buff there are on the target? if not, is that avaliable next patch?
18:35.39CIA-2303cryect * r35974 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixed a bug checking who's a friend
18:35.45Punkie`Debuff rather
18:35.50Cryectyes
18:36.09Cryectthe command for checking buffs passes it back as the second arguement doesn't it?
18:36.09nevcairielits possible already, yea
18:36.29Punkie`oooooh
18:36.29nevcairielhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitDebuff
18:36.37nevcairieldebuffApplications is what you want
18:37.03CryectDamn 2.0 added two returns I didn't know of :-p
18:37.09Punkie`thanks very much :)
18:37.22Cryectnice to see 2.0 added the debuff name was so dumb checking the tooltip
18:37.29nevcairielyea
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18:42.19ckknightsbu: ping
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18:43.12sbuckknight: yep?
18:43.22ckknightsbu: mount names?
18:43.39sbuckknight: babble-mount
18:44.03ckknightsbu: okay
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18:49.08Boubouillewtf, I didn't join wowace on connect
18:49.22BoubouilleLess people to annoy :(
18:49.24hypetechhehe
18:49.37Fisker-harr
18:50.35sbuckknight: should be fine just to check for BM:HasReverseTranslation(aura)?
18:50.53ckknightlikely
18:50.59ckknightI'm gonna do some funky stuff, though
18:52.34Boubouilleanyway, time to spam things !
18:52.40Boubouillehttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/fth/new_vashj_lootz.jpg
18:52.56sbufor my MountLib testing stuff i put that data in 2 arrays (normal / flying) and looked for the reversetranlated string in those arrays...
18:53.09sbuhmmm
18:53.13sbuwhats this?
18:53.25sbuskip attunement?
18:54.37Boubouilleyeah, it's like a scroll of stamina basically, but instead of buffing someone, the guy gets attuned to serpentshrine
18:54.55CryectPfft should give them stamina isntead
18:55.43hypetecherm
18:55.58hypetechwhy would an item that drops from SSC last boss give you SSC attunement?
18:56.07hyperChipmunkfor casting on other people
18:56.13hypetecho
18:56.23moonsorrowhypetech: to get new people into the guild who aren't attuned
18:56.23hypetechdon't think that's legit 0.o
18:56.51moonsorrowit was in our corpse of vashj, why shouldn't it be legit?
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18:57.23hypetechI've not heard of it anywhere else.
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18:57.43moonsorrowthat's why we tested her, to know if she drops the new items
18:57.53CIA-2303nickenyfiken 07Nickenyfiken * r35975 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (TrainerFu.lua TrainerFu_FuBar.lua TrainerFu_VisitTrainer.lua):
18:57.53CIA-23FuBar_TrainerFu:
18:57.54CIA-23-Shift-Ctrl-LeftClick mark spell/skill as already learned.
18:57.54CIA-23-Refresh known spells/skills when visiting trainer (was disabled for debug).
18:59.23Cryecthypetech: well no one had bothered to kill vashj on ptr before now
18:59.42Boubouille(mostly because you can't kill her without a GM)
18:59.55Cryecthuh?
19:00.00Cryectis SSC locked or somethign?
19:00.02Boubouilleas far as I know, she's way too hard right now
19:00.09moonsorrowwouldn't say that, she is fine as she is now
19:00.13Boubouillethey didn't balance her enough, consumable change = rape.
19:00.18Boubouilleo rly ?
19:00.25Boubouillesomeone else in your guild that we won't name said "OMG RAPE !"
19:00.36CryectYEah except they also buffed all our gear
19:00.39Boubouillei'm gonna expressly complain to him
19:00.40moonsorrowi think i know who said that :)
19:00.44Cryectwhich should make up for the consumable change
19:00.53moonsorrowshe is hard, but it's not impossible to kill her
19:02.34hypetechis SSC live yet?
19:03.11evlAnyone got a good Enchanting 1->375 Guide?
19:03.39moonsorrowhypetech: you mean the new version? no
19:04.41fruchtanybody if there's a way to make miks scrolling battle text colour the numbers of styles?
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19:09.27NimbleRabithmm
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19:09.35NimbleRabitis there a way to make quartz turn red when the person is out of range
19:10.09NimbleRabitthere should be =D
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19:17.47NimbleRabitnobody else thinks that would own?
19:18.26nevcairielhm
19:18.31nevcairielwhat should turn red?
19:18.42Cryectwell make a quartz module then
19:19.09nevcairielif the person gets oor, the casts usually stops, and the bar disappears
19:19.14nevcairielnothing there to turn red :o
19:19.30NimbleRabitactually no
19:19.38NimbleRabitcasts continue even when they get out of range a lot of the time
19:19.41NimbleRabitat least...for me?
19:20.15Cryectyes
19:20.18NimbleRabitwithin 5 yards or so I know it doesn't stop
19:20.18Cryectthats how it works
19:20.24Cryectit doesn't stop
19:20.30NimbleRabitand the action bars turn red, so it should be possible
19:20.30Cryectunless your target goes really really far out of range
19:20.36Cryectlike you can't see them anymore so you can't target them
19:20.46NimbleRabitexactly
19:20.52NimbleRabitand I can't make a module
19:21.51NimbleRabitI have ideas but no skillz
19:22.17NimbleRabitread: I never got into programming and learning looks like a daunting task
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19:24.31CIA-2303jayrox * r35976 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc): FuBar_VampwatchFu: updated to 1.1
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19:26.36Gnarfozanyone know how Tattle and Gladiator interact?
19:26.47Gnarfozor more to the point: which of the different foldes and subfolders do I need?
19:26.50hyperChipmunkwith unholy carnal passion
19:27.09sbuyou need your BG folder
19:27.15sbuin AddOns
19:27.35Gnarfozyup, got that
19:28.04Gnarfozso it's \Tattle, \Gladiator and \Gladiator_EU14
19:28.13sburight
19:28.36Gnarfozgreat
19:28.37Gnarfoz:)
19:30.08NimbleRabitgladiator doesn't work well for me T_T
19:30.17NimbleRabitbut it's still so much better than anything else out there
19:30.20NimbleRabitmakes me sad *cry*
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19:34.17Athou_I just realized I forgot to put a capital B to Fubar_CraftTimersFu, is there a clean way to rename ?
19:34.26Saroz_SVN
19:35.32Ominoussvn rename http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/old name http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/new name -m "log message"
19:36.04Athou_thanks
19:37.43CIA-2303athou * r35977 10/trunk/ (FuBar_CraftTimersFu/ Fubar_CraftTimersFu/): Fubar -> FuBar
19:39.49Ominouschange toc too
19:40.06CIA-2303ckknight * r35978 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - instead of storing aura names, use Babble-Spell-2.2 optionally. HasAura(MySpell) will try to translate MySpell to localized, but won't error if it can't.
19:40.12Ominousand ull have to delete and re chekout ur wc too
19:41.17CIA-2303hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r35979 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail-enUS.lua BulkMail.lua): (log message trimmed)
19:41.17CIA-23BulkMail: 0.9
19:41.17CIA-23- Cleaned up and polished code
19:41.17CIA-23- Characters can now be designated Sinks with '/bm sink'; when true, BulkMail
19:41.17CIA-23will not scan the inventory and fill the send queue when the mailbox send frame
19:41.19CIA-23is opened. Items manually added at the box will still have their destinations
19:41.23CIA-23set according to normal BulkMail procedure
19:41.54hyperChipmunkpunk always truncates half my commit notes
19:42.30hasteI'm glad it does
19:42.35Ominousrofl
19:42.39NimbleRabit<PROTECTED>
19:43.23hyperChipmunk- 'add' and 'rmdest' console commands returned, allowing for item links and PT3 sets to be entered on the command line with an optional destination and creating an 'include' rule accordingly
19:43.29hyperChipmunk- 'items from bags' rules dewdrop should now be re-generated when opened, instead of only on OnInit, to reflect the current items in the player's bags
19:43.54NimbleRabitawesome
19:44.11NimbleRabitjust when I figured out a mod to give me itemid's too
19:44.11NimbleRabit=P
19:44.12hyperChipmunkif no craziness with this last change pops up
19:45.04hyperChipmunkoh, postage cost updates correctly again too
19:45.14hyperChipmunki forgot to mention that in the commit
19:46.28NimbleRabitI'm having a big dilemma here
19:46.30NimbleRabitlearn to make addons
19:46.32NimbleRabitor make a twink
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19:50.20nevcairieli can recommend addons
19:50.42nevcairielbut thats just me
19:51.07Punkie`It depends if you are going to spend time looking at all the API stuff (or spend time asking nevcairiel) :D
19:51.41knarf-did not know DBM had a afk on boss thingymagic :>
19:52.12hastea what?
19:52.52NimbleRabitPunkie`: I know so little I'm not even sure what you just said to me
19:52.56knarf-I just whispered a friend, who apperntly uses Deadly Boss Mods, and it told me he was busy fighting a boss, what boss it was, the percent and how many alive :)
19:53.02Fisker-did not know anyone was stupid enough to use DBM
19:53.03Tornhoofdoes anyone know if baggins has some single bag mode?, like opening all the virtual bags in one big sorted bag?
19:53.07NimbleRabityeah I would love a bigwigs module for that knarf-
19:53.19knarf-and then replied me now "combat ended after 1 minute and 50s"
19:53.23Fisker-/dnd GTFO MY INTERNETS
19:53.26Fisker-there's your addon
19:53.26vhaarrthere's one on the svn, I think
19:53.29knarf-and now he whines about ppl being nubs :P
19:53.33vhaarr"combatdnd"
19:53.42NimbleRabitIt doesn't do it only on boss
19:53.44NimbleRabitI think
19:53.58NimbleRabitso it's basically just an annoying piece of junk, if it's the one I'm thinking of
19:54.03hyperChipmunkknarf-: i got that too
19:54.04CryectNimbleRabit: why would that be a bigwigs module
19:54.05Fisker-The point is he wants to annoy people with "lolwut boss @ xx% roflcopter"
19:54.09hyperChipmunkpissed me right off
19:54.16CryectThat would be a completely seperate standalone addon
19:54.16Fisker-"omg i keeled teh boss after 100 years"
19:54.24hyperChipmunki don't care about your silly boss or how long it took you to kill it
19:54.26vhaarrindeed
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19:54.47knarf-meh I find it usefull to know anyway :)
19:54.52CryectOMFG High King Maulgar at 99%
19:55.04hyperChipmunkno it isn't
19:55.10Cryecthow is it useful to know
19:55.12Cryectyou can see the boss
19:55.13knarf-actually it said lurker below on 99% :P
19:55.17NimbleRabitCryect: because when you engage the boss the module kicks in and sets /dnd and then stops after.  How is that NOT related to a boss mod
19:55.27knarf-Cryect no, it was a friend from another guild :)
19:55.41vhaarrpoint is that it's very simple to do as a standalone addon
19:56.04CryectBigwigs is supposed to be stuff that might be important for the bosss
19:56.09Cryectand reporting boss HP % isn't
19:56.17Cryectand would be a real klunk to add that to bigwigs
19:56.20NimbleRabitnot reporting hp %
19:56.23NimbleRabitjsut setting dnd or something
19:56.30vhaarrit's not happening
19:56.35hyperChipmunkkeep your epeen reporting to yourself
19:56.46CryectYou can go code something in a standalone addon in about 2 minutes if you want
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19:57.35hyperChipmunki especially love the extra /tell when it's done to everybody who messaged the person during the fight
19:57.47CIA-2303ckknight * r35980 10DogTag-1.0/ (DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua DogTag-1.0.toc): DogTag-1.0 - change the optional dependencies
19:57.49NimbleRabityeah it's stupid
19:58.02knarf-I do too "combat ended after 1 min 50s" I then pointed and laughed at him :D
19:58.10Tornhoofhmm why not updating the wau through wau?
19:58.12NimbleRabitit's deadly boss mods, it's a stupid mod
19:58.18Fisker-you could always use the addon to hook into bigwigs
19:58.21Fisker-yeah
19:58.47Fisker-It also reports what damage the tank took in some encounters
19:58.49Fisker-i lol'd imo
19:58.50knarf-I tried looking at making such a mod, but not all bossmodules throws the boss engaged event :<
19:58.57NimbleRabitand no I can't do that cryect, but thanks anyways for suggesting it
19:59.03hyperChipmunkhonestly, if i wanted to know how much time your massive armor-encrusted collective epeen needed to kill the boss, i'd ask myself, tyvm
19:59.12CryectNimbleRabit: Sure you can just have to learn how to write addons
19:59.28NimbleRabitand that will take me 2 minutes?
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20:05.22CIA-2303ckknight * r35981 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull-Layouts/ABF - changing the comboText position to frame-right, so that stupid people will stop bitching about their mana being cut off.
20:05.39Ominousckknight: rofl
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20:05.47NimbleRabitpersonally I could care less if it was a bigwigs module or a standalone addon or what.  The thing I don't understand is how can suppressing boss addon messages be a part of bigwigs but supressing whispers and replying dnd on boss can't be.
20:07.21Fisker-what does whispers have to do with "boss addon messages"?
20:07.32NimbleRabitit doesn't...
20:07.38NimbleRabitI'm saying it's similar functionality
20:07.54NimbleRabitboth assists you in keeping your screen/chat clutter free during a boss fight
20:08.00Fisker-noone ever said it was due to technical difficulties
20:08.05Fisker-but rather a concious design decision
20:08.21NimbleRabitI never said it was due to technical difficulties either...
20:08.29NimbleRabitI'm asking what is the design decision that seperates those tow
20:08.30NimbleRabittwo*
20:08.35NimbleRabitwhat makes them so essentially different
20:08.56NimbleRabitwhat makes one acceptable and one "lol let's laugh at this guy for suggesting it"
20:09.41CIA-2303ckknight * r35982 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add tag CreatureType
20:10.09Fisker-One is about blocking various bossmods from spamming you, the other is for replying to people
20:10.45NimbleRabitnot replying only, also blocking the whisper till afterwards when you can click something to display or something similar
20:11.13Fisker-why would you want to block anyone from whispering you?
20:11.26Fisker-other than using ignore
20:13.25NimbleRabitnevermind I get the essential difference now.  And you seriously can't think of a reason you would want that? 0.o
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20:14.01Fisker-If someone is purposefully annoying me in an instance he'll just get ignored from then on
20:14.10NimbleRabitbecause when people don't realize your on a boss they might send a lot of messages and/or text in whispers blocking out your raid chat which may have important information
20:14.33Fisker-people i care about respect the fact that i am doing some raiding and might not be at their disposal right away
20:14.58NimbleRabitlol don't realize didn't register to you at all did it
20:15.45Fisker-unless the person is actually spamming me then i won't miss any important info anyways
20:16.01Fisker-and if he is he'll get on my ignore list pretty quickly
20:16.32Fisker-though we never use raidchat for important information, only ventrilo and in some cases dedicated class channels
20:17.01NimbleRabitwhile I'm sure that means it would be completely useless for you
20:17.18NimbleRabit..nvm
20:17.28NimbleRabitI'll just try to make something of the sort for myself one day
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20:18.04GnarfozFisker-: where do I get all the stuff needed to run nymbia's dataminers? (e.g. the one for tattle)
20:18.17Gnarfozseems I need a socket module
20:18.17Fisker-i barely figured out myself
20:18.21Fisker-but look after luasocket
20:18.23Fisker-on google
20:18.33Fisker-and you gotta put it in the same dir as the lua files i believe
20:18.43Punkie`Why does Violation communicate via whispers, kind of annoying when someone goes afk :P
20:19.12Fisker-But in any case you gotta remember that most addons are about effiency, concise data and control
20:19.26Punkie`hehe
20:20.02Chompersthe dataminer works?
20:20.08Chompersi spent ages trying to figure that one out
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20:20.36Fisker-I for one don't like one bit that a person running DBM can be logged out at any time by a raidleader because if someone is afk for extended periods of time he probably won't be raiding with us the next time
20:20.42ckknightPunkie`: it's fixed in 2.1, just wait
20:21.27Fisker-Neither do i like that most raid warnings are complete sentences which are pretty irrelevant anyways
20:21.45NimbleRabitraid leaders can log people out if they are running dbm?
20:21.54Fisker-last i heard, yes
20:22.03NimbleRabitwow
20:22.08nevcairielyeah they can
20:22.17nevcairielit will show the 20s countdown logout window
20:22.40GnarfozFisker-: weird
20:22.48NimbleRabitthat explains a lot...
20:22.50Gnarfozput it in there, it even seems to look there, but it doesn't work anyway
20:23.28NimbleRabitmy guild has used that feature a few times I think
20:24.16Fisker-Someone should seriously bribe Slouken and make him change it to require hardware events
20:24.48NimbleRabit<PROTECTED>
20:24.56NimbleRabitpeople that use deadly obvious like the feature
20:24.57sbuckknight: new text positioning system rocks
20:25.04ckknightthanks
20:25.14sbuckknight: will be available for icons (masterlooter, leader) too?
20:25.17Silviu-ckknight could it be that your Dogtag change cause a large increase in memory ?
20:25.30ckknightSilviu-: which change?
20:25.44Silviu-I guess that with bable
20:25.52Fisker-NimbleRabit and i would like if the Split() command was still accessable
20:26.09Fisker-Split() took a input amount of money and automatically gave it to everyone in the party
20:26.13Silviu-when i target someone with many buffs my increase jumps over 150 lol
20:26.14ckknightSilviu-: doubt it...
20:26.25ckknightlemme check
20:26.36ckknightSilviu-: 150 KiB?
20:26.44Silviu-Yes
20:26.52FrostByghte[IsPet?Name:Gray!Name:White] I was trying to use this in pitbull in the name of the target frame but it doesn't seem to have the desired result...any ideas?
20:26.58FrostByghteshould that work?
20:27.18FrostByghtejust wanted to try and tell the difference between a player and a pet...specifically enemy players and pets
20:27.20ckknightoh, holy hell
20:27.24ckknightwtf
20:27.27Thorgardlol
20:27.50ckknightyes, it's something definitely in DogTag
20:27.54ThorgardRut roh.
20:28.07ckknightnow to figure out what.
20:28.10Silviu-240 KiB ;)
20:29.00GnarfozFisker-: works now :)
20:29.41Fisker-rawr
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20:31.09Silviu-when someone goes offline/online 423 KiB
20:31.17Silviu-Good that we just made a raidpause :P
20:31.32Silviu-Hope u figure out why soon we start ^^
20:32.12Cryectpfft you've survived this long :-p
20:32.16CryectI think you can survive a little longer
20:33.37ckknightfigured it out, Fisker-
20:34.20ckknightnot Fisker-
20:34.23ckknightum, Silviu-
20:34.28Silviu-Uh, thx :)
20:36.13Fisker-no
20:36.19Fisker-moar attention
20:36.40grzesieqany mages here? :P
20:37.16ChompersFisker-
20:37.36Chompersany chance you could give me a list of instructions to use tattles dataminer?
20:37.37FrostByghtecan anyone tell me if this is properly formated?  [IsPet?Name:Gray!Name:White]  And if so, it's put in the name section of the pitbull target frame but seems to have no affect...I was trying to show the difference between pets and other targets
20:38.43sbuckknight: hard to implement position-stuff for icons?
20:39.34ckknightsbu: haven't gotten around to ti
20:39.36ckknightit*
20:39.36CIA-2303ckknight * r35983 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
20:39.36CIA-23DogTag-1.0 - fix horrible memory issue.
20:39.36CIA-23- bugfix for modifiers with inner expressions
20:39.36CIA-23- make code that doesn't compile not crash the whole system.
20:39.43ckknightsbu: but I will, trust me.
20:39.46Silviu-ckknight thank u
20:39.50ckknightsbu: um, mind throwing that up on the wishlist?
20:40.02CIA-2303cryect * r35984 10GPSLib/GPS-1.0/GPS-1.0.lua:
20:40.02CIA-23GPSLib - Fixed some things that referring to IMBA (whoops)
20:40.02CIA-23-Some changes that should fix hopefully memory usage
20:40.19ckknightFrostByghte: looks fine to me...
20:40.52ckknightFrostByghte: as a test, just do [IsPet]
20:40.56ckknightsee what it says
20:41.02FrostByghteckknight: okie thank you will do
20:41.05ckknightblank or "True", it should be
20:41.43sbuckknight: and and something else, did you change the aura filtering stuff?
20:41.51ckknightwhat do you mean?
20:41.57sbuit used to display only earthshield for shamans
20:42.00sbunot its totems as well
20:42.44ckknightsbu: Earth Shield is a friendBuff for Shamans, it looks like
20:42.46ckknightis this wrong?
20:43.17FrostByghteckknight: well...oddly enough it says I'm a pet :)
20:43.30FrostByghteif I target myself, let me head out and target a few players and pets
20:43.30sbuckknight: earthshield is fine
20:43.35[dRaCo]nope, you can cast ES on friendly targets
20:43.37ckknightI'm on it, FrostByghte
20:43.55sbuckknight: but totems - meh... i think its obious that everyone in group has totem aura
20:44.01sbuobvious
20:44.21NimbleRabitI hate when people find the exploits in WoW and abuse them like crazy...
20:44.42CIA-2303ckknight * r35985 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix IsPet tag to check if it's not a player.
20:44.43ckknightnot true, sbu
20:44.54ckknightsbu: in BGs, for instance.
20:44.56XuerianHm... Wish there was a way to attach class text to the bottom of name text when the power bar is hidden.
20:45.01ckknightsbu: there's only a certain radius
20:45.12FrostByghteckknight: okie...it basically sees any player as 'True'
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20:45.24ckknightFrostByghte: I just updated.
20:45.37ckknightsee 5 lines up.
20:45.52FrostByghtewoot
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20:47.03sbuckknight: hm true
20:47.23hypetechNimbleRabit, what exploit is it this time?
20:47.26sbuckknight: possible to make totems as an option?
20:47.39ckknightsbu: don't really want to now
20:47.42Funkeh`can you do a check for a specific enemy unit near you? or any enemy unit?
20:47.46ckknight:-P
20:47.56ckknightit'd confuse things way too much, imho
20:47.57ckknightI dunno
20:48.02[dRaCo]more stupid exploits? :(
20:48.09NimbleRabithypetech: soloing heroic slave pens
20:48.20sbuckknight: hmm yep, i understand
20:48.20[dRaCo]wtf?
20:48.38Silviu-this week patch ?
20:49.28NimbleRabitbeen there forever I think, juts now discovered
20:49.30NimbleRabitwarlocks can solo it
20:49.35ckknightSilviu-: potentially.
20:49.39NimbleRabitmy friend just took down the first boss
20:49.55sbuckknight: well no idea, but if totems are hacked in it should be fine
20:50.05[dRaCo]why is it always locks or hunters? ;þ
20:50.19NimbleRabitit might be all ranged, I'm not sure
20:50.21ckknightsbu: it's not hacked in.
20:50.51GnarfozFisker-: are you on windows or on linux? :)
20:50.59Gnarfoz~seen nymbia
20:51.02purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 15m 25s ago, saying: 'it's handled it ok, but then again, it's mostly not too complicated'.
20:51.03hypetechNimbleRabit: how in the hell can you solo heroic slave pens?
20:51.03CIA-2303sylvanaar 072.0RC1-Public * r35986 10Prat/: Prat: Public release 2.0RC1
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20:51.17NimbleRabithypetech: exploitation.  Want a link to a video?
20:51.20hypetechya
20:51.41NimbleRabitI hope this crap gets fixed
20:51.43NimbleRabithttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8640617637006519726&hl=en
20:52.22hypetechI'm a mage...and I don't see any way in hell to solo heroic slave pens
20:53.08sbuckknight: ah ok, its marked as friendBuffs!?
20:53.17ckknightwhy wouldn't it be?
20:53.35ckknightthey have the buff from the totem
20:53.37ckknightcaused by you
20:54.42sbuhmhm yep
20:55.09GnarfozFisker-: have you ever ran the tattle dataminer?
20:55.25NimbleRabithypetech: I think you may have to be a warlock, at least that's the impression I get from my friend.  Something about mana...
20:55.49sbuckknight: option menu with all friendBuffs entries (default all checked + possibility to uncheck some ;o) *hides*
20:56.20Fisker-yeah once
20:56.23sbubut i dont know how confusing that would be
20:56.31Fisker-but stopped because my internet was crappy
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21:12.59harl|WoWhm. maybe i should translate some emotes
21:17.16GnarfozFisker-: it's insanely slow -.-
21:17.39Gnarfozyou wouldn't know about any intentional slowdowns nymbia might have put in?
21:18.57sbuits pretty fast here
21:19.08sbu~30 min / battlegroup
21:19.22Gnarfozhm
21:19.35Gnarfozsbu: it's been running for 30mins now, I'm at team 4
21:19.44Gnarfozout of 'about 4960'
21:19.55sbuoh
21:19.57Gnarfozhow does data.lua play into this, anyway?
21:20.06Gnarfozis this part pre-determined data, part mined?
21:20.12Gnarfozbrb, arena match
21:22.39Gnarfozre
21:22.55Gnarfoznymbia: you!
21:23.03nymbia~flee
21:23.05purlACTION runs away screaming
21:25.12Gnarfoznymbia: are there any intentional delays built in in the Tattle dataminer?
21:25.30Gnarfozor is the speed entirely dependent on the armory
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21:27.48nymbiaits the armory
21:28.10Gnarfozdamn
21:28.12nymbiait starts the next page the instant the previous request finishes
21:28.32Gnarfozbeen running for 45mins now, and I'm at team #6
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21:28.42nymbiaouch
21:28.44Gnarfozbtw, I see it loads data.lua
21:28.50Gnarfozis there any pre-mined data in there?
21:28.57Gnarfozor is it all taken fresh from the armory?
21:29.00Gnarfozlike number of teams, etc
21:29.21nymbiait's all fresh
21:29.34nymbiadata.lua's just the current full data set
21:29.52nymbiabut it's also used for resuming if you stop in the middle of a battlegroup
21:30.51Gnarfozah, ok
21:31.05GnarfozI'll just restart it inside a screen session then
21:31.12Gnarfozand see if it's finished after work tomorrow xD
21:31.29CIA-2303ckknight * r35987 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
21:31.29CIA-23PitBull - now only loads LoD modules that are activated.
21:31.29CIA-23- to specify whether the module is on/off by default, set X-PitBull-DefaultState to 1/0.
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21:41.18CIA-2303ckknight * r35988 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - for the modules menu, use the Notes TOC metadata as the description, if the module is not loaded. If it is loaded, use module.desc. Note: These two should match.
21:41.45NimbleRabitnymbia: woot glad you liked the out or range suggestion.  Can't wait for it
21:41.49NimbleRabitof*
21:41.53CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35989 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/FontSize.lua: Prat: was niling the sounds table in fontsize
21:41.53NimbleRabits/or/of
21:41.59NimbleRabithow does that command work
21:42.14[dRaCo]s/a/b/
21:42.45nymbiaNimbleRabit: :)
21:43.39NimbleRabitnever needed on a castbar before, because no castbars were so good I stared at them
21:43.40NimbleRabit=D
21:45.40sylvanaarckknight perhaps just put the modules registration code in your toc
21:45.55ckknightregistration code?
21:46.08sylvanaarmaybe you dont have that
21:46.39ckknightwhat do you mean, registration code?
21:47.31sylvanaarthe stuff to tell your core what to do with it, i just assume your modules register some info
21:48.20ckknightsylvanaar: they just depend on PitBull, are LoD, and have a name that starts with PitBull_
21:49.45nymbiainteresting, though.. i wonder how big it'll let us make a metadata field
21:49.59sylvanaarright, you can use it to run arbitrary code
21:50.48ckknightI'm gonna add in X-PitBull-Condition
21:50.55ckknightwhich'll be run to see if it should be loaded at all
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21:52.31Fisker-oh god
21:52.39ckknightwhat?
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21:53.15Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/amidoinitrite.jpg
21:53.27Fisker-memory usage is fine
21:53.28Fisker-l2p
21:53.39nevcairiellol
21:53.41Diaowow that is a lot of bars o_o
21:53.46Diaoand a lot of mem used
21:53.51nymbiarofl Fisker-
21:53.56nymbiahowd that happen
21:54.09Fisker-i tried to invite every level 70 in the guild with SRA :o
21:54.17Diaolol
21:54.28Diaosra works now?
21:54.34nevcairieli guess not really :P
21:54.39vhaarrno, it does not :P
21:54.42Diaohaha
21:55.15nevcairieli bet ammo placed some memory hooks in there to screw every guy who cant get his nose out of there :P
21:55.36Saroz_vhaarr, can you explain the diff between transcriptor and bigwigs_debuffer
21:55.38Fisker-heh
21:55.40Saroz_debugger*
21:55.52vhaarrSaroz_: bw_debugger also logs bw sync messages etc
21:55.56Saroz_oki
21:56.34CIA-2303ayunyan * r35990 10ChatAssist2/ (Core/ChatAssist.lua Locale/Locale-enUS.lua):
21:56.34CIA-23ChatAssist2:
21:56.34CIA-23- Fixed bug UnicodeBlock work again.
21:56.34CIA-23- Fixed bug ItemLink work again.
21:57.11Fisker-i should do it while scanning on ah with auctioneer
21:57.15Fisker-i'll break 150MB!
21:57.48NimbleRabitwhat do most people run at generally
21:57.52nevcairieli even break 150mb while only scanning
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21:58.11CIA-2303punkie * r35991 10pMutilate/core.lua: pMutilate - Fixed Mangle (Cat) check.
21:58.13nymbiai'm usually around 28ish, lol
21:58.21nevcairieland generally, i run at 25-30
21:58.23nevcairielin raids a bit more
21:58.25frucht33 without swstats, 55 with swstats
21:58.51Punkie`I'm 26mb running around killing stuff, ~33 in raids
21:59.08Punkie`but that's with memory limit set to 0 :o
21:59.18nevcairieli have limit 0 too
21:59.26NimbleRabit83 T_T
21:59.28nevcairieland the new garbagecollect setting
21:59.38Punkie`I need to use that
21:59.40Punkie`what is it?
21:59.50nevcairielif you use buggrabber
21:59.57nevcairielit will set it automagically
22:00.03Punkie`AUTOMAGIC? awesome
22:00.09sbufrucht: nuke your timeline data!?
22:00.19fruchtit's auto nuked
22:00.19NimbleRabitI'm ok with using 83 on average though
22:00.27FtH|Daemonahrrm ckknight are you there? just some quick feedback, if you are entering combat without a target / target of target on ptr you cant get a target frame when targeting something in combat
22:00.29fruchti don't know why it's so bloated really
22:00.42fruchtnuke - down to 35 or something
22:00.49frucht2 minutes of raiding and it hits 50  again
22:01.28ckknightFtH|Daemona: I have never left you, child
22:01.37ckknightFtH|Daemona: how do you reproduce that?
22:02.10FtH|Daemonai dont have a target
22:02.17FtH|Daemonaboss encounter triggered by tank
22:02.20FtH|Daemonai target boss
22:02.25FtH|Daemonano target or target of target ;)
22:02.27FtH|Daemonano error msg
22:02.54nymbiathat would probably be a bliz bug
22:02.59nymbiai'm on the ptr, lemme try
22:03.54Punkie`NimbleRabit: I don't think I'd ever be happy with 83mb :P
22:04.21nymbiatarget frame comes up for me when i stumble into a mob not targeting it
22:05.17NimbleRabitPunkie`: well I have a comp that can support it, but yeah if there was a way for me to figure out how much was coming from each addon I would try to slim it down a bit
22:05.41nymbiaNimbleRabit: 2.1
22:05.47Punkie`I have a comp that would support it, but 83mb is way OTT
22:06.01Chompersahahahah
22:06.02Punkie`I doubt you even you really use most of the addons that make that
22:06.05Chompers3% prince wipe
22:06.08FtH|Daemonayeah nymbia thats blizzard side, you need a boss encouter
22:06.12Chompers/cry
22:06.19NimbleRabitevery addon I have I like
22:06.23FtH|Daemonathats no target -> run into mob -> auto-target mob
22:06.25NimbleRabitregardless of whether I use it often or not
22:06.29FtH|Daemonabut you dont have that in boss encounters
22:06.50FtH|Daemonayou are just pulsed into combat
22:08.10sharlatowis there an mpq viewer i could use to extract textual emote strings from one of those mpq files ?
22:08.33Fisker-ah Chompers the endless story
22:08.57sbuckknight: is it possible to fill a table by putting a function inside (well, actually INSIDE the assignment) which iterates/filters/gets some data?
22:09.03ChompersFisker !
22:09.19Chompersany chance of that instruction list?
22:09.45ckknightsbu: yes, it's possible
22:10.02Fisker-instruction list? :o
22:10.17Chompersyeah, on how to use the datamine thing in tattle
22:10.59Fisker-just run it
22:11.06Fisker-lua <path-to-script>
22:11.07hyperChipmunkinstall luasocket
22:11.12hyperChipmunklua dataminer.lua
22:11.20Chompersaaah, its lua
22:11.29Fisker-probably gonna take a couple of days to run though :P
22:11.30Chompersi tried run, load and execute
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22:11.38hyperChipmunklol
22:11.50hyperChipmunkthe .lua might have tipped you off?
22:12.00hyperChipmunk/bolk
22:12.10Vangualanyone else have todays WAU builds not recognizing locally installed versions of addons?
22:13.16Funkeh`no
22:13.17sylvanaarwhat are those
22:14.15Vangualall addons, happens since 1.8.15 or .18, it just wants to redownload all addons i check over and over each time i start is
22:14.29Vanguali start it*
22:14.48sylvanaar><
22:15.01CIA-2303ckknight * r35992 10PitBull/ (38 files in 20 dirs):
22:15.01CIA-23PitBull - change TOC files to have real descriptions.
22:15.01CIA-23- make module.desc match the Notes in the TOC files.
22:15.04CIA-2303adirelle * r35993 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua:
22:15.04CIA-23Babble-2.2:
22:15.04CIA-23- Trainer: added missing string.
22:16.43sylvanaarmine works fine
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22:16.59CIA-2303adirelle * r35994 10Violation/ (Violation.toc modules/HitCritRate.lua):
22:16.59CIA-23Violation:
22:16.59CIA-23- added critical hit rate calculation (assuming DOT don't crit).
22:17.23Vangualhrm weird, any kind of debugmode to activate?
22:17.32Stephmwnot sure DOTs can crit, but damage shields sure can
22:17.37Fumlerwhat does pMutilate do?
22:17.41Fisker-DOT's can't crit
22:17.45Fisker-but direct damage from dots can't
22:17.52Fisker-i.e. fireball, moonfire, etc.
22:18.14sylvanaarno, but it prints detailed information including the zip file it used
22:18.35sylvanaarcompare what you have to the zip
22:19.03vodrinits a shame dots don't crit though, wouldn't make a 25k CoD
22:19.06Vangualnot detailed enough, when i mark an addon, press F12, it downloads it, and keeps doing that each time i press f12 instead of noticing that i'm already at that revision
22:19.08vodrinmind*
22:19.21CIA-2303ckknight * r35995 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - don't show comboText if you're not a druid or rogue
22:20.09sylvanaarname a mod
22:20.25sylvanaarlink it even
22:21.11CIA-2303nymbia * r35996 10Quartz/Buff/Buff.lua:
22:21.11CIA-23Quartz_Buff:
22:21.11CIA-23- Bugfixes in buff positioning stuff.
22:21.52Vangualhmm let's see.. Aloft, 35777
22:22.06sylvanaardisable use recycle bin
22:22.12Vangualk sec
22:22.59Vangualno diff, restarting wau
22:23.23sylvanaarturn on delete before extract
22:23.44Vangualgot that
22:23.47CIA-2303saroz * r35997 10LittleWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
22:23.47CIA-23LittleWigs: Added Grandmaster Vorpil (Untested)
22:23.47CIA-23TODO: Needs a timer for teleport and a duration and warning for the banish debuff in heroic mode
22:24.14Vanguali checked that the local aloft only has one changelog file pair in it before i named it as an example
22:24.38CIA-2303ckknight * r35998 10PitBull/Portrait/ (PitBull_Portrait.toc Portrait.lua):
22:24.38CIA-23PitBull_Portrait - turn module off by default.
22:24.38CIA-23- turn off hidden by default.
22:24.46Vangualno dice, still insists on downloading each time
22:24.51sylvanaarreload your your cache
22:25.03kebinusanimo if dots can be resisted per tick and per cast they should be able to crit
22:25.04VangualReload Index?
22:25.08kebinusanblizard doesnt agree with me tho
22:25.31Gnarfozdots can be resisted per tick?
22:25.40ZealotOnAStickCurse of Doom can crit.  Initial damage on Immolate can crit.
22:25.44kebinusanyes, partial resists per tick
22:25.50kebinusandoom cannot crit
22:25.51GnarfozZealotOnAStick: both are NOT DoTs
22:26.10ZealotOnAStickI've got CoD crits in my TopScoreFu log that say otherwise.
22:26.19Vangual"Updating cached file index... done." No difference
22:26.19Gnarfozindeed it can
22:26.20ZealotOnAStickNow, if there's been a recent change to disallow it from critting, that's possible.
22:26.22Gnarfozbecause it's not a DoT
22:26.27kebinusanCoD is a dot
22:26.35ZealotOnAStickImmolate is DD + DoT.
22:26.43kebinusanand does not crit
22:26.58ZealotOnAStickand I was mainly responding to vodrin above, the 25k CoD comment.
22:27.06sylvanaarVangual you are the only person with this problem
22:27.32ZealotOnAStickkebinusan - for clarity, precisely which spell are you referring to as CoD?
22:27.39sylvanaarVangual pastey the output from updating
22:27.50Vangualsylvanaar: okay
22:27.53ckknightvhaarr: ping
22:28.01kebinusanCurse of Doom
22:28.11ckknightnymbia: ping
22:28.24CIA-2303saroz * r35999 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/Murmur.lua: LittleWigs: Murmur - Add castbar for Sonic Boom
22:28.33Gnarfozkebinusan: it's not a DoT
22:28.41ZealotOnAStickOk.  As am I.  and I know it's crit.  Now, as I said, I'll allow for the possibility of it being changed semi-recently to make it not crit, but it bloody darn well has crit before.
22:28.41kebinusanhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30910, the effect of Curse of doom is a dot with one tick after 60 seconds
22:28.42Gnarfozit does no damage over time? :D
22:28.53Gnarfozit's just a debuff with some damage after 60s
22:29.17Gnarfozwhatever, I had it crit, too :< but I don't play my warlock much anymore
22:29.19nymbiackknight: pong
22:29.28ZealotOnAStickCoD doesn't meet traditional DoT definitions.  Immolate, though . . . is a DoT with just a really big initial tick (that can crit)
22:29.33kebinusanGnarfoz: screenshot of somethign that says Curse of Doom crits for xxx
22:29.41Gnarfozkebinusan: not available
22:30.01ckknightnymbia: PitBull now has a full-featured LoD system. Mind if I put your PitBull_* modules into PitBull proper? Some will be off by default, I'm thinking
22:30.21nymbiackknight: sounds good to me
22:30.23kebinusanIt cant crit, the effect of curse of doom is the same as corruption, look up both on wowhead and look at the effect
22:30.34ckknightnymbia: good stuff.
22:31.03kebinusanIt receives a much larger percentage of +damage, and is affected byt hings such as shadow weaving, curse of shadows, improved shadow bolt and improved curse but cannot crit
22:31.18kebinusanmake that amp curse not improved
22:31.26ZealotOnAStick"Now, as I said, I'll allow for the possibility of it being changed semi-recently to make it not crit, but it bloody darn well has crit before."
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22:31.49Vangualsylvanaar: http://wowi.pastey.net/36547
22:32.19kebinusanits never been able to crit
22:33.29ZealotOnAStickClearly, we both know that we're both right and the other guy is wrong, and neither of us is likely to change the other's mind.  I call brick-wall rule and declare this topic ended.
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22:36.06kenlyricthere are people who still think mind flay can crit.
22:36.15sbuckknight: hmm any idea why args = function() \n local blah = {} \n blah.one = "123" \n return blah \n end, doesnt work? it tells me args must be table, but that function returns a table!?
22:36.32CIA-2303ckknight * r36000 10/trunk/ (PitBull/BarFader/ PitBull_BarFader/): .PitBull_BarFader - moving from own addon into PitBull proper, as a module.
22:36.35NimbleRabitcladhaire: is support for removing tomtom points in the map planned?
22:36.49ckknightsbu: oh, for AceOptions? you can't do that.
22:37.02ckknightsbu: you never said it was for AceOptions before, so I didn't understand
22:37.04sbubut it works with get/set stuff?
22:37.06ckknighthey, 36000!
22:37.10sylvanaarVangual what is your game path set to?
22:37.13ckknightsbu: get/set are expected to be functions
22:37.13sbuwhats the problem with args then? :o
22:37.18sbuoh hm
22:37.34ckknightsbu: args shouldn't change, typically.
22:37.47ckknightget changes all the time
22:37.59ckknightset is by definition required to be a function
22:38.02Vangualsylvanaar: "D:\Games\World of Warcraft\" which is correct, and it actually does it's deleting and extracting fine, it only seems to have trouble noticing the installed numbers
22:38.11sylvanaarVangual here's my update from the same thing
22:38.39sbuckknight: mhh ok, sucks if you want to have some dynamic stuff in there (e.g. friendBuffs toggle menu :p)
22:38.54sylvanaarhttp://wowi.pastey.net/36549
22:39.03ckknightsbu: I don't see how that's dynamic ... at al
22:39.05ckknightall*
22:39.21sbufriendBuffs is depending on playerclass, so i need to iterate that table and put options in there?
22:39.31ckknightsbu: once.
22:39.42ckknightsbu: then you use the table you created and it's put into options
22:39.52ckknightsbu: btw, use type = 'text', multiToggle = true, imho
22:40.03Vangualsylvanaar: that looks pretty much identical and correct... if that revision wouldn't have been there all along..?
22:40.05ckknightthen have validate = { stuffs }
22:40.06sbuoh hm *testing*
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22:40.37sbuand i tried args = blahtable and preset blahtable with friendBuffs content - BUT, there is "passValue = group
22:40.49sbuand group isnt available there :/
22:41.07sbutesting that multitoggle now
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22:41.08ckknightsbu: well, do multiToggle stuff.
22:41.12ckknightit'll be super-easy
22:41.26sbuhmyep, if there is such function, yea :o
22:41.38Vangualsylvanaar: i'm assuming that "Downloading ZIP:" shouldn't happen if the same version is already on my disk, should it now?
22:42.31fruchtwhat's the native wow resolution?
22:43.39ValleMay be my question would be dumb, but anyway .... could someone point me to UNDERSTANDABLE tutorials on lua scripting for WoW ? to iterate - understandable by a man whos speciality was far away from scripting ))
22:44.06sylvanaarwhat is the full path to aloft, and did you use reparse points anywhere on it?
22:44.35Vangual"D:\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface\Addons\Aloft"
22:45.21Vangualand in there is a "Changelog-Aloft-r35777.txt" and "Changelog-Aloft-r35777.xml" amongst the addon files
22:45.50Vangualit looks all pretty normal and worked very fine with the initial 1.8 versions
22:46.24sylvanaardunno, locate local settings\temp\winaceupdater and delete it
22:46.32Vangualk
22:46.51ckknightValle: the WelcomeHome tutorial?
22:46.55Valle*sigh*
22:47.04ckknightValle: what do you not understand?
22:47.40sylvanaarVangual this is 1.8.20?
22:47.46ValleI have tried to understand that ....but ....i honestly do not understand Lua logic .....in the past times I have ever svripted ..it ewas Pascal ..and it ws logical
22:47.47Vangualsylvanaar: yep
22:48.10Vallesorry for typos ..it's a bit late in Moscow )
22:48.52sylvanaarVangual if none of that helped -- no idea
22:49.33sylvanaarVangual run it from the same directory as WoW
22:50.01Vangualsylvanaar: closed wau, killed the said dir in my temp dir, reopenend. it still tries to download it each time i do f12. As i said, this behaviour started somewhere at or after 1.8.15 if it helps
22:50.09Vangualsylvanaar: will try running in wowdir
22:50.26Valleat the moment, I am trying to begin the journey into the addon writing ... I wasable to script some trash things like showing AP or Health % pf the target ...but anything more complex is making me feel dumb as an 100-year-old brick =(
22:51.39CIA-2303ckknight * r36001 10PitBull/BarFader/ (BarFader.lua PitBull_BarFader.lua PitBull_BarFader.toc libs/): PitBull_BarFader - change directory structure slightly, minor updates.
22:51.43sylvanaarVangual maybe something uses a local path, and the log file messes it up, dont know
22:52.02Vangualthat worked
22:52.12Vangualno redownload when started within the wowdir
22:52.14ckknightValle: Pascal is a bit different from Lua, I must say
22:52.27Vangual"Aloft - Already at rev 35777 - Skipping"
22:53.00Valleckknight - yeah ..but it was last thing i have used =( back in the times I was in school
22:55.14ValleOne question apart from main : when I try to update Pitbull through WAU, i get cazillions of dirs in the Addons directory ..instead on one named Pitbull and containing others in it .....is there anything I am doing wrong ?
22:55.26ckknightPitBull is a package
22:55.32ckknightit contains multiple addons
22:55.37ckknightjust go with it.
22:55.56Gnarfozor create an empty folder
22:55.59GnarfozPitbull.nounpack
22:56.01Lyfeis there a website administrator on, or anything of the sort?
22:56.10Lyfe(wowace.com website admin, that is)
22:56.21Vallebut ...if i update it manually from wowace.com/files ...I get that 1 dir )
22:57.04Vallei just don't like multiple dirs, that all ...I am trying to maintain my addons folder clear and readable at a glance
22:57.47GnarfozValle: do what I just said
22:57.50ckknightValle: you shouldn't care. It's more efficient in multiple dirs now anyway.
22:57.51sylvanaarVangual skipversion check = true?
22:57.51Gnarfozit will make it stay in one dir
22:57.57Lyfenevermind.
22:58.07sylvanaarah
22:58.10ckknightValle: or do what Gnarfoz says
22:58.30Valleaha..I see ..will try that
22:59.02Valleumm...question - why it is more effecient in multiple dirs ? just trying to understand
22:59.16Vangualsylvanaar: hmmm
22:59.46Vangualsylvanaar: it was set to false on the settings reset inside the wowdir
23:00.07sylvanaarshould be false
23:00.17CIA-2303ckknight * r36002 10/trunk/ (PitBull/EstimatedHeals/ PitBull_EstimatedHeals/): .PitBull_EstimatedHeals - moving from own addon into PitBull proper, as a module.
23:00.44Vangualsylvanaar: on the old location i have set it to true actually thinking it'd get rid of the many update notices of new WAU version
23:01.10Vangualapparently the setting means versioncheck on the addons then?
23:01.13sylvanaaryup, .19 and later preserve your settings
23:01.35sylvanaarno, you can have different settings for each exe
23:01.47sylvanaaryes
23:01.55sylvanaarversion check on the addons
23:02.23Vangualyea i noticed, but does "SkipVersionCheck" mean "Don't check for new WAU versions" or "don't look what addons are installed"?
23:02.48sylvanaarmeans always download the zip
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23:03.19CIA-2303cryect * r36003 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Adds tooltips to the main window bars
23:03.45sylvanaarThere is almost no reason to set it really
23:04.06Vangualah, so working as intended but misleading setting, I set it to skip after getting somewhat annoyed by the extreme releaserate of 1.8 wau's :)
23:04.30Vangualin hope to bypass the slow inital wau versioncheck
23:05.58Vangualshould UpgradeSettings be true or false to have it preserve settings?
23:05.59hyperChipmunkwhy don't most boss loots show up in cartographer anymore?
23:06.24sylvanaaryou dont need to touch that
23:06.32Vangualk
23:07.18sylvanaarat least its being updated
23:08.15Vangualyea the switch to the new xml download is great
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23:10.00sylvanaaranyhow - .20 should not be slow at startup
23:10.07kenlyricsylvanaar: maybe you could tell me where wau saves its settings? becuase it's not in the config file.
23:10.11Vangualmight be possible to populate the bottom frame of the settings dialog with a small description which settings are dangerous like that
23:11.18sylvanaarkenlyric yeah, it depends, one place is Local Settings\Wowaceupdater
23:11.18Vangualsylvanaar: .20 still hangs for me between "Version Check..." and "Running latest version" for some secs
23:11.32kenlyricah, ok.
23:11.49kenlyricevery time I upgrade it reverts back to the .config file... so I just edited that.
23:11.53sylvanaarkenlyric not anymore
23:12.04kenlyricoh, in .20?
23:12.08sylvanaar.`9
23:12.15sylvanaar.19 but yeah
23:12.21kenlyricoh, i only upgraded a few hours ago, so it was .18 ;)
23:12.31Vangualhehe
23:13.01CIA-2303ckknight * r36004 10PitBull/ (9 files in 5 dirs):
23:13.01CIA-23PitBull - add Parser-3.0 to libs (for EstimatedHeals)
23:13.01CIA-23- change directory structure of EstimatedHeals.
23:13.01CIA-23- fix PitBull toc.
23:13.01CIA-23- fix LICENSE.txt to include the whole license, add other authors' names.
23:13.02CIA-23- make sure BarFader and EstimatedHeals opt-out early if corresponding addons exist.
23:14.45Vangualsylvanaar: thanks for the support and updates to wau, all good now. :)
23:14.50Funkeh`this forcing addons to load doesn't evne work half the time
23:14.57sylvanaarVangual cheers
23:15.00Funkeh`disabling ParserLib and it won't load
23:15.12sylvanaarParserLib isnt acelibrary loadable
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23:15.29Funkeh`what abotu if im only loading acelibrary
23:15.32CIA-2303ckknight * r36005 10/trunk/ (PitBull/InteractLines/ PitBull_InteractLines/): .PitBull_InteractLines - moving from own addon into PitBull proper, as a module.
23:15.34Funkeh`it doesn't load the other ace modules
23:15.43Funkeh`since i have them split
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23:16.24sylvanaarmaybe thier tocs arent updated for that
23:16.34Funkeh`what field is it looking at
23:16.51sylvanaarX-AceLibrary
23:17.36sylvanaarnope, bad tocs
23:18.06Funkeh`ckknight: could you add X-AceLibrary to Ace2 sub toc's please
23:19.51sharlatowhm. something's wrong with my NPCs. i can only read their first line of text and the rest is missing.
23:20.42sylvanaarFunkeh` i was wrong - things which have required dependancies that are disabled wont load
23:20.43hypetechprivate?
23:21.07Funkeh`sylvanaar: AceLibary has no requires deps
23:21.19sylvanaarhow is it going to load itself
23:21.52ckknightmagic!
23:21.57sylvanaaryeah
23:22.08sylvanaarlemee have some of that
23:22.08sharlatowprivate?
23:22.10Funkeh`right
23:22.10sbuoh btw ckknight
23:22.19ckknightpants
23:22.32Funkeh`next target
23:22.36Funkeh`WhoLib
23:22.39Funkeh`has a field
23:22.42Funkeh`but doesn't load
23:22.53sbudo you plan any "border" stuff? (around bars, around bars + text) - border menu is not working for me at the moment (empty menu)
23:23.17ckknightsbu: update SharedMediaLib
23:23.21sbuoh :)
23:23.28sylvanaarimo that stuff should not be in !!!SAL because its not acelibrary loadable
23:23.31sbuand multitoggle works fine
23:24.00hypetechsharlatow: sorry, I meant to ask if your NPC problem was on a private server.
23:24.07art3misanyone know how to kill the twin emps if they arent teleporting?
23:24.24sharlatowhypetech: no, i'm not playing on any private server.
23:24.26Funkeh`why is it not acelibrary loadable?
23:24.33Gnarfozart3mis: keep on dpsing? :D
23:24.45art3mishehe yeah was hoping for something more than that ;P
23:24.51sylvanaarcause its not acelibrary based?
23:25.07Funkeh`so why the fuck have the field
23:25.41phyber~seen grayhoof
23:25.45purlphyber: i haven't seen 'grayhoof'
23:25.45Funkeh`looks AceLibrary based to me
23:25.45sylvanaarfor logical names
23:26.25sylvanaarcan you do an AceLibrary("WhoLib-1.0") or whatever
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23:27.39sylvanaarits not load on demand
23:28.27vhaarrckknight: pong
23:28.50ckknightvhaarr: PitBull's LoD system is now full-featured. can I move your PitBull_* addons into PitBull proper?
23:28.59vhaarrckknight: sure
23:29.04ckknightgood times
23:30.36CIA-2303funkydude * r36007 10WhoLib/ (. WhoLib.toc): WhoLib: LoD
23:30.37CIA-2303ckknight * r36006 10PitBull/ (6 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - change directory structure of InteractLines, fix texture path, minor fixes.
23:33.40CIA-2303ckknight * r36008 10/trunk/ (PitBull/CombatFader/ PitBull_CombatFader/): .PitBull_CombatFader - moving from own addon into PitBull proper, as a module.
23:34.49NightHawkTheSanehuh.
23:34.57ZealotOnAStickHrm.  I'm not really sure InteractLines should be part of the main package, IMO.
23:35.26sylvanaarFunkeh` my ace2 works fine split into bits
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23:35.37rronkivhey nevcairiel
23:35.40sylvanaaryou just make acelibrary non-lod
23:35.41NightHawkTheSaneI just got an email from 'support@wowglider.de', asking me for help about a phpbb mod I wrote like...4 years ago. o_0
23:35.50Funkeh`yeah sylvanaar i figured :p
23:35.58ckknightsylvanaar: that's what I do
23:35.59nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: rofl
23:36.17Funkeh`ckknight: could you remove LoD from AceLibrary then? :)
23:36.34sylvanaarDefaultState: Enabled also
23:36.35NightHawkTheSane'cause I'm -totally- going to help them out. Ignoring the fact that I barely even remember how that mod works anymore.
23:37.14ckknightFunkeh`: sure
23:37.26Funkeh`ty
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23:37.49CIA-2303ckknight * r36009 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.toc: .AceLibrary - remove LoD
23:38.31sylvanaarsweet, lets see on the ptr
23:39.19vhaarranyone got a framexml diff for the latest ptr patch?
23:40.07CIA-2303ckknight * r36010 10PitBull/ (5 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - change directory structure of CombatFader, fix texture path, minor fixes.
23:40.16ckknightvhaarr: it's less than a page long, not worth putting up the patch, no new features
23:40.27ckknightvhaarr: just spelling fixes, really
23:40.29vhaarralright
23:40.34cladhaireNimbleRabit: that feature already exists, has for quite some time
23:40.54NimbleRabitcladhaire: I can do it with the minimap, how do I do it with the big map.  Specifically using cartographer
23:41.09CIA-2303funkydude * r36011 10TipLib/ (. TipLib.toc): TipLib: add X-AceLibrary-TipLib-1.0 field
23:41.10cladhaireoh
23:41.20Funkeh`there
23:41.24cladhairethat' not in yet
23:41.30cladhairecan you post it on the googlecode issue list?
23:41.31NimbleRabitjust wondering if it's planned
23:41.37cladhaireif you ask for it, i'll ploan :P
23:41.43NimbleRabitlink?
23:42.05sylvanaarlame, that puts prat back up top
23:42.07cladhairecode.google.com/p/wow-tomtom/issues/list
23:42.14NimbleRabitused tomtom so much today it really started getting on my nerves that I couldn't do that
23:42.18cladhairelol
23:42.18NimbleRabitgot 5 levels though
23:42.36Funkeh`now its just ParserLib thats the only one that you need to check for loading
23:42.45NimbleRabitthe other thing that annoys me is people on wowhead posting coords in a really dumb format
23:42.45Funkeh`as far as i can see
23:43.06NimbleRabitx,x,x,x or something stupid...wtf does that mean..
23:43.13sylvanaaryep
23:43.23NimbleRabitcan't fix that though lol
23:43.26cladhaireNimbleRabit: I have an update that should fix most of that
23:43.31cladhairenot the x,x,y,y tho
23:43.35cladhairedamn europeans =)
23:43.40sylvanaari dont believe we suffered through load failures this long
23:43.45NimbleRabithey what is with the hlooc:blah
23:43.47NimbleRabitor w/e I keep seeing
23:43.51NimbleRabitit looks really odd
23:44.04Kalman|tloc?
23:44.13NimbleRabitcladhaire: oh is that how europeans do it instead of using decimals?
23:44.25Kalman|Euro formatting uses a comma as the decimal seperator rather period.
23:44.30cladhaireyeah
23:44.31NimbleRabiteww
23:44.33NimbleRabitit's annoying
23:45.03Funkeh`any confirmation about patch this week?
23:45.05sylvanaarwhat does this number in the chatlink actually do?
23:45.20NimbleRabit"project currently has no issues"
23:45.21NimbleRabithehe
23:45.36cladhaireNimbleRabit: so leave a new one :P
23:45.43sbuckknight: mind if i commit friendBuffs exclude options when finished?
23:46.05ckknightcall it filtering, where something is true means it'll show, something false (no checkmark) means it won't show.
23:46.11ckknightbut yes.
23:46.18ckknightfeel free once that happens
23:46.40rronkivok, when i goto any trainer, my addons automaticlly make it goto the Training window,
23:46.47rronkivanyone have any idea which one this might be?
23:46.54sylvanaarhaha, i havent seen the tartget option on my right click popup in ages lol
23:46.59nymbiarronkiv: automaton or similar?
23:47.32rronkivi dont have anything like that i dont think
23:48.24NimbleRabitcladhaire: k done.  I like google code btw that was nice and simple
23:48.30rronkivlootfilter?
23:48.31cladhairelol
23:48.33rronkivmebbe
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23:50.06sbuckknight: hmm meh - true = wont show would be much easier ;o because default (== nothing in config) is false :o
23:50.22sylvanaarwhen i set prat to load 0 modules - my Prat_Modules only uses 37k
23:50.47ckknightsbu: change the defaults!
23:50.51ckknightsbu: true = show.
23:51.02ckknightsbu: ['*'] = true
23:51.17sbuoh ok :)
23:51.30CIA-2303ckknight * r36012 10/trunk/ (PitBull/Banzai/ PitBull_Banzai/): .PitBull_Banzai - moving from own addon into PitBull proper, as a module.
23:51.37CIA-2303funkydude * r36013 10XArt/ (. XArt.toc): XArt: toc update
23:52.01CIA-2303gagorian * r36014 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .DewDrop-2.0: Attempt to fix some issues mentioned on the forum (can't reproduce so, might not work)
23:52.07rronkivcould bartender3 have anything to do with it?
23:52.12sbuckknight: [*] = true means every unset value is considered true?
23:52.16ckknightyes.
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23:52.21[dRaCo]don't think so, rronkiv
23:52.21sbuheh, lua is nice :o
23:52.23ckknight['*']
23:52.26ckknightsbu: it's not lua
23:52.28ckknightsbu: it's AceDB-2.0
23:52.29sbuno?
23:52.31sbuoh :)
23:52.37sbuthen AceDB is nice ;)
23:52.42ckknightyep :-)
23:52.43rronkivomniCC?
23:52.54[dRaCo]highly unlikely
23:52.59rronkivmoveframes?
23:53.43[dRaCo]dunno, never used it. try disabling it and talk to ur trainer
23:54.29[dRaCo]ckk, are u gonna move the rangecheck into pitbull, too?
23:54.38ckknightyea
23:54.43[dRaCo]k, great
23:54.48ckknighthave no idea who the author is, though
23:54.54ckknight*shrug*
23:55.15[dRaCo]hm, it's not totally bugfree, but it works most of the time
23:58.42Neeblerhttp://eeuauaughhhuauaahh.ytmnd.com/
23:59.15CIA-2303ckknight * r36015 10PitBull/ (14 files in 12 dirs):
23:59.15CIA-23PitBull - change directory structure of Banzai, fix texture path, minor fixes.
23:59.15CIA-23- set svn:keywords and svn:eol-style
23:59.15CIA-23- add needed libs for Banzai.

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