| 00:00.31 | ckknight | Herio: actually you can do [IsFriend#target] and such |
| 00:00.32 | Wogroipl | does anyone know of an addon like Fubar_AnkhtimerFu? This one doesn't seem to work properly |
| 00:00.36 | ckknight | Herio: not by name, though |
| 00:00.41 | Nimble_Rabbit | nymbia: I see no Glory-2.0 in addons. Do you just mean glorylib? |
| 00:00.48 | Herio | oh |
| 00:00.51 | ckknight | Herio: there's a few syntax niceties in DogTag-1.0 now |
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| 00:01.46 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35824 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull_Portraits - whoops, disabled Portraits by accident, let's revert that. |
| 00:01.46 | Nimble_Rabbit | that frames thing being stuck to the mouse happens to me so much I just let my raid frames all screwedup |
| 00:01.47 | Nimble_Rabbit | lol |
| 00:02.02 | Herio | niece |
| 00:02.22 | Bam__ | what about her? :P |
| 00:02.30 | ckknight | Nimble_Rabbit: I just committed a fix for that |
| 00:02.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Wogroipl: ankhtimerfu's worked fine for me, *shrug* |
| 00:02.39 | ckknight | Nimble_Rabbit: can be fixed by /rl if that happens, btw |
| 00:03.32 | Wogroipl | NightHawkTheSane When I log on, it shows 0 ankhs in my inventory, while I can clearly see I have 5 |
| 00:04.20 | nymbia | Nimble_Rabbit: yeah |
| 00:04.25 | Wogroipl | after a reloadui it will show the right number, but when I use it, it won't update |
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| 00:05.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Wogroipl: well, glancing at the changelog, the mod hasn't been updated in months, and it worked fine for me last time i logged on my shaman, a couple days ago. so either a library updated since then broke it (and i didn't realize), or something is borked with your addons :P |
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| 00:09.53 | Nimble_Rabbit | Does anyone know of a TrinketMenu like addon where I can keybind the trinkets? |
| 00:10.05 | Nimble_Rabbit | nevermind |
| 00:10.07 | NightHawkTheSane | doesn't trinketmenu allow keybindings? |
| 00:10.07 | Nimble_Rabbit | I'll make macros |
| 00:10.12 | Nimble_Rabbit | I can't find them no |
| 00:10.18 | hyperChipmunk | TrinketMenu? |
| 00:10.25 | Kaydeethree | keybindings menu iirc |
| 00:10.31 | Nimble_Rabbit | I went into the menu |
| 00:10.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ItemRack does, you could try that. |
| 00:10.58 | hyperChipmunk | /trinketmenu opt |
| 00:10.58 | hyperChipmunk | there's a button that says (Bindings) |
| 00:10.58 | Nimble_Rabbit | oh woah |
| 00:11.01 | hyperChipmunk | you click that |
| 00:11.02 | Nimble_Rabbit | I didn't know about that command |
| 00:11.05 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 00:11.21 | Nimble_Rabbit | and i have no minimap button, so I didn't even know there was options |
| 00:11.48 | hyperChipmunk | moron |
| 00:11.53 | Punkie` | does anyone use tortoise for commiting? |
| 00:12.36 | hyperChipmunk | i'm sure there is |
| 00:13.02 | Nimble_Rabbit | nymbia: cool thanks for that |
| 00:13.18 | Nimble_Rabbit | nymbia: although it was like the very last not really needed thing I wanted =P |
| 00:13.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: im sure a lot of people do, just ask if you have a question :P |
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| 00:14.42 | Punkie` | Can you pasty your config file, mine just wont accept it for some reason |
| 00:15.58 | Thorgard | Zoinks. |
| 00:16.01 | Seyken | Hello all |
| 00:16.33 | Seyken | want to update to wau 1.18.13 but only files in zip archive, that's normal? |
| 00:16.52 | Seyken | (only 2 files sorry, tired a little bit) |
| 00:17.23 | Thorgard | Argh. What's spamming my chat with debug stuff? ;P |
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| 00:17.43 | Thorgard | If it's even that. :/ |
| 00:18.02 | Thorgard | Ahum. DogTag. |
| 00:20.50 | CIA-23 | 03punkie * r35825 10TickTo/ (TickTo.toc core.lua libs/): |
| 00:20.50 | CIA-23 | TickTo: initial commit |
| 00:20.50 | CIA-23 | - Simple frame showing how many ticks to the most used energy values for Rogues |
| 00:20.50 | CIA-23 | - Move with alt+drag |
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| 00:21.23 | knarf- | ckknight is there a swingtimer in pitbull? >: |
| 00:21.46 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 why would there be |
| 00:22.02 | Nimble_Rabbit | Well there is a castbar |
| 00:22.26 | xlvii | mmm.. |
| 00:22.33 | xlvii | does anyone know about the uh.. new patch? |
| 00:22.41 | Nimble_Rabbit | if there can be a castbar I don't see why there can't be a swing timer, although I personally wouldn't want one |
| 00:22.42 | xlvii | it seems the same as the old one, but it's downloading to World of Warcraft\Patches\WoW-2.0.12-to-2.1.0-enUS-Win-patch\Patches\WoW-2.0.12-to-2.1.0-enUS-Win-patch |
| 00:22.43 | NightHawkTheSane | swing timing is pretty out of scope for a UF, though, cast bar isn't quite as much |
| 00:22.49 | xlvii | it just looks like it's duplicating those folders. |
| 00:22.51 | xlvii | over and over |
| 00:23.03 | Kaydeethree | shouldn't be... |
| 00:23.05 | xlvii | currently, it's saving the data in World of Warcraft\Patches\WoW-2.0.12-to-2.1.0-enUS-Win-patch\Patches\WoW-2.0.12-to-2.1.0-enUS-Win-patch\Patches\WoW-2.0.12-to-2.1.0-enUS-Win-patch |
| 00:23.15 | hyperChipmunk | cast bar support is easy from game events |
| 00:23.25 | Kaydeethree | then your background downloader or torrent client's broken |
| 00:23.41 | xlvii | anyone have any ideas? |
| 00:23.57 | ulic | xlvii: mine just downloaded a second file, plain and simple. |
| 00:24.30 | xlvii | well |
| 00:24.39 | xlvii | it's like it's copied the data into the folders. |
| 00:24.43 | xlvii | because it's all the same |
| 00:24.46 | CIA-23 | 03punkie * r35826 10TickTo/core.lua: TickTo - Don't load if you aren't a rogue |
| 00:25.08 | Kaydeethree | 248M wow-partial-1.MPQ 22M wow-partial-2.MPQ |
| 00:25.15 | xlvii | and i'm really confused |
| 00:25.19 | xlvii | because in my patches folder |
| 00:25.23 | xlvii | my screenshots are there too. |
| 00:25.24 | xlvii | >_> |
| 00:25.34 | Kaydeethree | then you've got something seriously screwed up |
| 00:25.38 | Kaydeethree | run the repair tool |
| 00:25.53 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, seen http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/18/the-creamy-gui-center-action-bar-break-down/ ? |
| 00:25.56 | Seyken | xlvii: lol, make a new wow directory :D |
| 00:26.57 | xlvii | lol |
| 00:27.03 | xlvii | i found out what i was doing wrong |
| 00:27.03 | xlvii | :D |
| 00:27.12 | xlvii | i use utorrent to download the files. |
| 00:27.17 | xlvii | i hate the blizzard download tool. |
| 00:27.19 | xlvii | and i uh.. |
| 00:27.32 | xlvii | kept on putting the download in the WoW-2.0.12-to-2.1.0-enUS-Win-patch folder. |
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| 00:27.39 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:27.39 | xlvii | so it would think it needs to remake the folder. |
| 00:27.41 | xlvii | :P |
| 00:27.48 | Kaydeethree | just save it to the wow folder |
| 00:27.56 | xlvii | yeah |
| 00:27.58 | xlvii | i'm doing that now |
| 00:28.03 | xlvii | capped internet is a pain though :D |
| 00:28.07 | Kaydeethree | the torrent contains the patches/wow-___/ folders |
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| 00:29.55 | xlvii | Bartender3 is an ACE addon and like most ACE addons it strives to be efficient with its memory footprint. |
| 00:30.02 | xlvii | someone needs to email the reviewer |
| 00:30.15 | xlvii | I'll be writing more about ACE and other memory efficient addons and how they affect you in a future column. |
| 00:30.16 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:30.20 | ckknight | xlvii: GODFUCKING DAMMIT |
| 00:30.23 | ckknight | IT'S NOT ACE |
| 00:30.25 | ckknight | it's Ace |
| 00:30.51 | ckknight | how many times must I dole over this? |
| 00:33.37 | xlvii | ckknight |
| 00:33.39 | xlvii | i didn't do it |
| 00:33.40 | xlvii | :D |
| 00:33.44 | ckknight | yes you did. |
| 00:33.50 | xlvii | look here -- http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/18/the-creamy-gui-center-action-bar-break-down/ |
| 00:33.53 | kergoth | looks like xlv pasted an article. |
| 00:33.57 | ckknight | ah |
| 00:33.58 | xlvii | under bartender3 |
| 00:33.59 | kergoth | there ya go |
| 00:34.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:34.02 | ckknight | well fuck that article! |
| 00:34.06 | xlvii | someone needs to email the reviewer |
| 00:34.08 | xlvii | :pp |
| 00:34.57 | syeren | ckknight, I guess you put an WAU to stop Pitbull spamming crap in the chat frame? |
| 00:35.18 | syeren | Looks like it :p |
| 00:35.19 | ckknight | no? |
| 00:35.35 | xlvii | ckknight, do you want me to contact them about it? ;p |
| 00:35.42 | xlvii | it'd seem more official if you did it though. |
| 00:35.45 | xlvii | http://www.wowinsider.com/contact/corrections/ fyi. |
| 00:36.04 | knarf- | NightHawkTheSane well was more interested in a swingtimer for the target mainly for seing when a boss hits his target :P but meh |
| 00:36.16 | Daemona | haha i like that one: |
| 00:36.18 | Daemona | All in all Bongos has a nice presentation and is easy to use. Adding a cooldown count option and experience bar would have been welcomed over the roll and stats area. |
| 00:36.22 | syeren | It's still doing it Ckk... |
| 00:36.23 | syeren | Erm. |
| 00:36.26 | syeren | Screenshot inc. |
| 00:36.36 | Daemona | nothing beats OmniCC in my option and well it got an xp bar |
| 00:36.44 | NightHawkTheSane | knarf-: er, i don't think you can get target attack speed, so it'd be nothing more than a very rudimentary guess at best. |
| 00:36.49 | Daemona | that author should test more thoroughly |
| 00:37.07 | syeren | People who look at their action bars waiting for their cooldowns make me cry :( |
| 00:37.07 | knarf- | NightHawkTheSane ah well, would been neat to have :) |
| 00:37.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Daemona: lol, omnicc is even by the same author, and recommended in the bongos description on wowi :P |
| 00:37.28 | ckknight | xlvii: on it |
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| 00:38.17 | NightHawkTheSane | and wait, bongos has been around before the 2.0 patch, wasn't it? |
| 00:38.23 | syeren | ckknight: http://fabrikate.org/wow/ckkp.jpg |
| 00:38.28 | syeren | Every time I target someone else. |
| 00:38.35 | syeren | And when I logged in, it did a bunch of shit like that. |
| 00:39.26 | ckknight | oh, my bad. |
| 00:39.26 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Looong before |
| 00:39.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: yea, ive been using it for a good long while. |
| 00:39.48 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35827 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove debug line. |
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| 00:40.15 | ckknight | syeren: there you go |
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| 00:40.20 | syeren | Cool cool ;p |
| 00:40.34 | syeren | I wonder how much crap I have actually helped/pointed you to fix now ckk ;) |
| 00:40.42 | ckknight | pants. |
| 00:40.44 | syeren | Well, mainly pointed out ;p |
| 00:41.26 | Tuller | bleh I've been using bongos since 2005 :P |
| 00:41.42 | syeren | ckknight, did you do that druid check fix you said you was going to get around to doing? |
| 00:42.02 | Seyken | syeren: why do they make you cry when they look at their cooldowns? |
| 00:42.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: psh, showoff. ;) |
| 00:42.18 | ckknight | yes, syeren |
| 00:42.24 | syeren | Because if you're looking at your action bars while doing something like PVP, you're ultimately defeating yourself :) |
| 00:42.53 | harldephin | something's spit out pure code to my default chat frame |
| 00:42.55 | syeren | Of course, if you have your action bars where the majority of your attention needs to be, it's not an issue. |
| 00:43.08 | syeren | I don't know any classes who can get away with that ;p |
| 00:43.09 | harldephin | guess someone forgot to disable debugging or something |
| 00:44.33 | vodrin | harldephin; wow... scroll up 10 lines |
| 00:45.40 | ulic | is anyone else getting the RegisterFontString error with the ABF layout in PitBull? |
| 00:45.47 | ckknight | line? |
| 00:46.02 | ulic | I'll post a screen for ya in a second |
| 00:46.08 | ulic | 977 it says |
| 00:46.09 | Xuerian | I got that error as well, though I mayaswell not have, I didn't record it :P |
| 00:46.47 | harldephin | vodrin: aha. ok. - like i'd know what CIA-23's trying to tell me. :p |
| 00:46.56 | ulic | it's the target, frame it's blanked out |
| 00:47.15 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35828 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - bugfix for DogTag:RegisterFontString |
| 00:47.22 | ckknight | ulic: there we go |
| 00:47.35 | ulic | nifty :) |
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| 00:49.08 | SHIFT_nismo | Guys, could i get rid of the Libs directory inside of each ace2 mod? as long as i have the libraries it needs in AddOns/Libs |
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| 00:51.47 | Seyken | SHIFT_nismo: you have standalone librairies? |
| 00:51.47 | Xuerian | SHIFT_nismo: Either the libraries themselves as addons, or in a "meta-library" addon that has them all, yes. |
| 00:52.24 | SHIFT_nismo | ok so each library would have to be checked out to the AddOns folder? |
| 00:55.26 | NightHawkTheSane | can anyone remember the name of the cat in darkshore that's naturally translucent? |
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| 01:03.27 | NightHawkTheSane | n/m, google knows |
| 01:04.06 | Seyken | NightHawkTheSane: Ghost saber? |
| 01:04.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Seyken: yes |
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| 01:08.55 | SHIFT_nismo | hmm, the AddOn i removed the libs from doesn't seem to be finding the Meta_libs |
| 01:09.06 | SHIFT_nismo | could someone post me an example folder structure? |
| 01:09.47 | Seyken | SHIFT_nismo: for what? addons using one librady directory? |
| 01:10.00 | SHIFT_nismo | yea i am tyring to unembed libraries |
| 01:10.06 | SHIFT_nismo | i want to use !!!Libs |
| 01:11.00 | Seyken | SHIFT_nismo: download it, it's simple |
| 01:15.51 | SHIFT_nismo | checkout !!!StandaloneLibraries -> AddOns/libs |
| 01:16.16 | harldephin | can an add-on estimate the visible graphical length of an alphanumeric string of a specified font and font size ? - (e.g. to make Aloft estimate if a unit's name + level fit into the health bar and then cut out random vowels to make it fit without just being cut off at the end) |
| 01:16.40 | CIA-23 | 03seerah * r35829 10SharedMedia/INSTRUCTIONS for MyMedia.txt: |
| 01:16.40 | CIA-23 | SharedMedia |
| 01:16.40 | CIA-23 | - fixed a type in the MyMedia code |
| 01:16.55 | Gokie | hrm, DogTag seems to be spewing a lot of code into my chatframe o.O |
| 01:17.12 | harldephin | Gokie: it's been updated |
| 01:17.34 | Seyken | all of you play on US realms? |
| 01:17.49 | harldephin | no? |
| 01:17.49 | SHIFT_nismo | <- Shattered Hand - Horde US |
| 01:17.52 | Gokie | ah, I should've scrolled up to see the CIA announcement of it |
| 01:18.18 | harldephin | Gokie: hehe ;) |
| 01:19.27 | harldephin | since i'm european i'm playing on a european realm (or rather 3 of them) |
| 01:20.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Seyken: a number of people here live in europe. |
| 01:20.38 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 01:21.16 | Seyken | does anyone know if there's a French Ace community? |
| 01:22.02 | wobin | Sigh |
| 01:22.06 | wobin | Should I start a shammy? |
| 01:22.11 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 01:22.15 | wobin | Ok |
| 01:22.23 | wobin | (Wow, that was easy) |
| 01:22.25 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 01:22.39 | SHIFT_nismo | be back in a few |
| 01:22.47 | Seyken | wobin: yes, you should :D, a class always out of mana :p |
| 01:22.58 | wobin | That's a good thing? =) |
| 01:23.11 | wobin | Hehe, I have a horde shammy that's loitering around 40+ |
| 01:23.23 | Seyken | wobin: it learns how to use mana |
| 01:23.23 | wobin | but I don't have an alliance chamois |
| 01:24.06 | Seyken | wobin: chamois? you mean draenei? |
| 01:24.18 | wobin | shammy =P |
| 01:25.06 | kenlyric | shammies have mana? |
| 01:25.11 | kenlyric | I just hit things with my sword. |
| 01:25.23 | NightHawkTheSane | with your shammy? |
| 01:25.26 | NightHawkTheSane | i doubt it |
| 01:25.30 | kenlyric | it might not be a sword. |
| 01:25.44 | kenlyric | ;) |
| 01:25.47 | Seyken | kenlyric: a mace perhaps? |
| 01:25.53 | NightHawkTheSane | that's what she said. |
| 01:25.55 | kenlyric | I call that joke a fail. |
| 01:26.04 | kenlyric | *my joke, not yours |
| 01:26.14 | vodrin | WowAceUpdater-1.8.13-bin.zip is totally borked |
| 01:26.25 | kenlyric | then don't install it. |
| 01:26.27 | vodrin | someone want to recompile and upload ? |
| 01:26.34 | kenlyric | oh wait, it doesn't exist. Problem solved! |
| 01:26.38 | vodrin | its hard to kenlyric ! |
| 01:26.40 | vodrin | :p idd |
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| 01:26.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 01:27.01 | NightHawkTheSane | I just died in a fire. |
| 01:27.08 | wobin | I find it's hard to kenlyric too |
| 01:27.12 | Seyken | i can only be compiled under Virtual studio? |
| 01:27.17 | wobin | I don't know how he does it... |
| 01:27.41 | wobin | NightHawkTheSane: Congratulations, you've just succeeded in fufilling the INTARWEBS |
| 01:27.52 | kenlyric | you know, I made up a definition for kenlyric that I'm sure nobody cares about, but the point is, it's actually pretty easy to kenlyric :) |
| 01:28.10 | NightHawkTheSane | i'll kenlyric YOU! |
| 01:28.50 | Seyken | You are so kenlyric |
| 01:29.06 | Gngsk | I kenlyric myself every morning before work |
| 01:29.11 | xlvii | what's the uh.. 'macro' command to make a pet attack? /script PetAttack();? |
| 01:29.18 | Gngsk | /petattack |
| 01:29.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 01:29.26 | xlvii | oh it's simplified now? |
| 01:29.29 | xlvii | cheers. |
| 01:29.29 | Seyken | xlvii: you should copyright it :p |
| 01:29.33 | vodrin | that was always there |
| 01:29.51 | vodrin | well, not always ofc as that would be mind bending |
| 01:30.26 | Seyken | vodrin: what is ofc? |
| 01:30.44 | Xuerian | Of course. |
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| 01:31.51 | Gnarfoz | could someone please make Aeonus drop Latro's Sword and the d3 rogue gloves and make the hunter in my party disconnect on the kill? :p |
| 01:32.34 | Thorgard | Gnarfoz, don't be silly. You can't possibly expect to get loot before a hunter. |
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| 01:33.32 | Gnarfoz | he'd get the sword in that case |
| 01:33.42 | a-stray-cat | clos is the most op skill ever :< |
| 01:33.44 | Seyken | Talking about Hunters, is it difficult to make a distance addon? |
| 01:33.45 | NightHawkTheSane | why would a hunter want latros? |
| 01:34.03 | Nimble_Rabbit | a-stray-cat: qq |
| 01:34.04 | Seyken | what would he do with such a word?? |
| 01:34.09 | Seyken | sword |
| 01:34.11 | Nimble_Rabbit | it has agil |
| 01:34.22 | Seyken | Sonic spear rulz |
| 01:34.26 | NightHawkTheSane | so? it's arguably -the- best non-epic rogue off hand |
| 01:34.46 | Nimble_Rabbit | it IS |
| 01:34.51 | vodrin | better than the majority of the epics |
| 01:35.09 | kenlyric | why would a hunter care what a rogue wants? |
| 01:35.19 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i thought so, but i dont play a rogue anymore, so :\ |
| 01:35.25 | Kemayo | Seyken: Nudge. |
| 01:35.26 | kenlyric | s/a rogue/anyone/ |
| 01:35.27 | Seyken | Because a hunter is cool :) |
| 01:35.31 | a-stray-cat | Seyken: really the best you can get is nudge |
| 01:35.53 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: becuase rogues are awesome, unless played by kenlyric. :P |
| 01:35.56 | a-stray-cat | had flag, got stunlocked 100-0 |
| 01:36.01 | a-stray-cat | 10843 health |
| 01:36.06 | a-stray-cat | i hate pug wsg :< |
| 01:36.43 | kenlyric | my rogue is level 20. He has awesome lockpicking. |
| 01:36.49 | harldephin | is there actually a command for initiating an (auto)loot of what's been clicked (or moused over) ? |
| 01:37.38 | NightHawkTheSane | you can't automagically loot something by mousing over it. |
| 01:37.51 | NightHawkTheSane | but auto-looting the contents of something once you click is an interface option : |
| 01:38.14 | Nimble_Rabbit | a-stray-cat: no rogue can stunlock 100-0 a person with 10k health....unless you have like 0 resilience and they are very very veyr lucky |
| 01:38.19 | Seyken | thanks all, is it an Ace addon? |
| 01:38.21 | harldephin | yea lol, but can i initiate that by using an add-on |
| 01:38.27 | Xuerian | Looting by script is impossible without a hardware interaction, harldephin |
| 01:38.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 01:39.20 | Kaydeethree | even then, you've got to right click on the mob in one form or another |
| 01:39.20 | kenlyric | that's what bots are for! |
| 01:40.07 | Kemayo | Seyken: Yup. You can get it from files.wowace.com. Probably other places, too. |
| 01:40.36 | Seyken | Kemayo: but wau1.18.13 is not compiled :/ |
| 01:40.37 | harldephin | i'm actually clicking what i want to be lootet. that's not the problem. |
| 01:41.06 | harldephin | my point it, i want to do more than one thing with one click, avoiding to have to click and wait if something happens, then click again and maybe realize too late that what i wanted to happen first didn't happen at all (in case i've had been impatient enough to make that happen) |
| 01:41.06 | Kemayo | Seyken: ...so just download the file? |
| 01:41.12 | harldephin | it=is |
| 01:41.34 | NightHawkTheSane | harldephin: that was potentially the most indistinct and confusing thing i've ever read. |
| 01:42.01 | Seyken | Kemayo: already done :) |
| 01:42.06 | harldephin | NightHawkTheSane: right.... |
| 01:42.06 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r35830 10BigWigs_ZG/ (. Hakkar.lua): BigWigs_ZG: Hakkar: lovin'(cleanup) |
| 01:42.28 | Nimble_Rabbit | can bigwigs set raid icons on friendly players? |
| 01:42.37 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 01:44.09 | Gnarfoz | Thorgard: yay, d3 gloves but no sword, hunter goes home empty handed ;) |
| 01:44.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i wish there was a set of mail gloves as good as the assassination ones |
| 01:45.14 | Seyken | Does a hunter have his D3 helm? i still haven't mine |
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| 01:47.11 | a-stray-cat | beast lord helm? |
| 01:47.37 | a-stray-cat | i was so pissed about the BL helm, i ran normal mech like 20 times to get it and the abacus |
| 01:47.41 | a-stray-cat | then the first heroic mech i go to |
| 01:47.43 | a-stray-cat | they both drop |
| 01:47.45 | a-stray-cat | and are de'd |
| 01:48.05 | NightHawkTheSane | er, if you wanted them... why were they de'd |
| 01:48.20 | a-stray-cat | i got them already from running normal mech 20 times |
| 01:48.32 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, misread, my bad |
| 01:48.40 | a-stray-cat | i shoulda just started doing heroic mech and gotten them anyway! |
| 01:48.41 | a-stray-cat | with badges! |
| 01:48.44 | a-stray-cat | le QQ |
| 01:48.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, probably :P |
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| 01:51.05 | wobin | rofl |
| 01:51.05 | wobin | I can't believe Wobin wasn't taken as a name on my server =P |
| 01:51.39 | harldephin | NightHawkTheSane: i had been using FishingBuddy before it broke into pieces, then i got to use FishingAce but it's lacking that one-click-loot-and-cast function FishingBuddy had. (...) |
| 01:51.40 | Seyken | so going to heoric mech might be a solution |
| 01:51.56 | harldephin | NightHawkTheSane: 3 hours ago i figured that i'm too often too slow to do a double right click, switched mouse buttons but that's too tedious to do, so i increased the delay time which FishingAce would calculate for the right click to successfully be interpreted as a simluated double click. (...) |
| 01:52.37 | Seyken | and desolation battlegear ? |
| 01:52.58 | harldephin | NightHawkTheSane: now what i wonder is, if i could increase that delay value to 30 and add a command for additionally looting the swimmer thing, so i could loot and cast with a single click. |
| 01:53.21 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't think that's possible |
| 01:53.32 | NightHawkTheSane | looting and casting both require independent hardware events |
| 01:54.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Seyken: i've got the helm/legs of desolation, took -forever- to get the helm though :( |
| 01:55.10 | nymbia | where's a mob that interrupts casts |
| 01:55.16 | harldephin | NightHawkTheSane: ok. but still i can loot and cast with a double click, while the first click of that simulated double click is used for looting as well, so it's halfway the same already. |
| 01:55.55 | NightHawkTheSane | harldephin: thats because double click is essentially two hardware events, so one's used to loot and the next to cast |
| 01:58.07 | harldephin | and the first one's counted for the double click simulation as well, which could be dropped because it's not a real double click, so what.. i can't execute an add-on's function _and_ one of wow's native ones at the same time ? |
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| 01:58.40 | Seyken | i'm leaving, have fun IRL and IG :) |
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| 02:00.49 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35831 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - make the text positions a lot easier to configure. |
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| 02:00.55 | ckknight | ^--- good commit |
| 02:01.01 | Funkeh` | ckknight: so modules are not truly LoD? |
| 02:01.12 | Funkeh` | now* |
| 02:01.14 | Funkeh` | >> |
| 02:01.14 | ckknight | they are, but load all the time. |
| 02:01.19 | ckknight | no if statements yet. |
| 02:01.22 | NightHawkTheSane | harldephin: er, huh? It's fairly simple. You need a hardware event to loot, and a different hardware event to cast a spell. So you can't do them both off of one 'click'. The simulated 'double click' works because its two hardware events. |
| 02:01.29 | Funkeh` | i await them :) |
| 02:01.40 | kenlyric | present them. |
| 02:03.13 | Funkeh` | can whoever made WAu 1.8.13 fix the zip file so we can download the damn thing and stop WAU bitching about being out of date |
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| 02:04.14 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: did you zip the latest WAU? |
| 02:04.33 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` yeah why |
| 02:04.44 | Funkeh` | it kinda lacks files |
| 02:05.23 | Nimble_Rabbit | nymbia: some mobs in stockades stun |
| 02:07.57 | CIA-23 | 03skyboat * r35832 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua AddonSkins/DoTimer.lua Skinner.toc): Skinner: Added DoTimer support. |
| 02:10.57 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35833 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - change how modules become activated and such. |
| 02:11.54 | harldephin | i see now. the mouse button can't be assigned a second function at the same time and it can't be assigned one after another and be clicked by the add-on because to execute its function i have to press the mouse button. |
| 02:12.32 | sylvanaar | its a script that builds it |
| 02:12.32 | sylvanaar | its just retarded |
| 02:12.32 | harldephin | that's ok. i'll continue double clicking. |
| 02:12.37 | harldephin | or maybe double limping |
| 02:12.40 | sylvanaar | 1.8.14 is available |
| 02:13.29 | Nimble_Rabbit | is that why in xloot you need to double click BoP loot while solo to get it |
| 02:13.39 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 02:13.46 | Diao | you do? |
| 02:13.48 | Diao | i just have to click once |
| 02:13.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i've never seen that, Nimble_Rabbit |
| 02:13.49 | harldephin | you do |
| 02:13.50 | Nimble_Rabbit | I do... |
| 02:13.51 | harldephin | ? |
| 02:14.00 | harldephin | i don't have to |
| 02:14.00 | Nimble_Rabbit | oh wait |
| 02:14.04 | Xuerian | It wasn't intended behavior... |
| 02:14.04 | Nimble_Rabbit | I'm thinking a different mod |
| 02:14.05 | Nimble_Rabbit | lol |
| 02:14.26 | Nimble_Rabbit | automaton |
| 02:14.30 | Nimble_Rabbit | my bad |
| 02:14.31 | harldephin | you may have another add-on preventing you to pickup BoP items |
| 02:14.35 | Nimble_Rabbit | I forgot where the functionality came from |
| 02:14.48 | harldephin | hm |
| 02:15.04 | Nimble_Rabbit | it has a lootbop option so the confirm dialog doesn't pop up if your solo |
| 02:15.11 | Nimble_Rabbit | but I have to double click items to make it work |
| 02:15.56 | Nimble_Rabbit | Xuerian: you just come out of nowhere with the mention of xloot |
| 02:16.02 | harldephin | guess i've never come across a BoP being solo then |
| 02:16.10 | Diao | lol |
| 02:16.15 | Xuerian | Nimble_Rabbit: it's magic. |
| 02:16.17 | Diao | turn it off with automaton |
| 02:16.22 | Diao | and enable the autoloot bop in xloot |
| 02:16.26 | Diao | and you should only have to click once |
| 02:16.28 | Xuerian | Uh. |
| 02:16.35 | Xuerian | XLoot doesn't have autoloot bop |
| 02:16.36 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 02:16.41 | Xuerian | I tried, it didn't work. |
| 02:16.45 | Nimble_Rabbit | lol |
| 02:16.51 | harldephin | but it has an option for it |
| 02:17.10 | Nimble_Rabbit | not it doesn't.. |
| 02:17.13 | Xuerian | ... does it ... work? >.> |
| 02:17.18 | Diao | yeah |
| 02:17.19 | Diao | it works for me |
| 02:17.23 | Diao | lol |
| 02:17.25 | Diao | well not "auto" |
| 02:17.29 | Xuerian | I think we're talking about something else ¬.¬ |
| 02:17.35 | Xuerian | Or I am, anyway. |
| 02:17.40 | Diao | it bypasses the "do you want to loot this bop item, it will bind on pickup" screen |
| 02:17.46 | Diao | and you just click once to loot it |
| 02:17.55 | Xuerian | 0.o |
| 02:18.02 | Nimble_Rabbit | there isn't an option for that in xloot |
| 02:18.05 | Nimble_Rabbit | that I'm aware of |
| 02:18.05 | harldephin | there's something about preventing the clicking of those buttons when it's a BoP item, but it's not actually _preventing_ that you may click it if that option is disabled |
| 02:18.11 | Diao | hm |
| 02:18.12 | Diao | i dunno |
| 02:18.14 | Diao | i thought it had it |
| 02:18.43 | Xuerian | (^Xuerian's mental process) |
| 02:18.50 | Nimble_Rabbit | lol |
| 02:19.02 | harldephin | very mental |
| 02:19.30 | Nimble_Rabbit | ha..haha... |
| 02:19.37 | harldephin | ..ha ... |
| 02:20.02 | Diao | lol |
| 02:20.11 | Xuerian | No, I actually removed the commented code that was supposed to skip the staticpopup last revision |
| 02:20.17 | Xuerian | And there isn't a option for it |
| 02:20.31 | Kemayo | Man, this is depressing. My wife quit WoW (with good reason for doing so), so I find myself having to dispose of all her stuff, which she mailed to my bank before deleting her characters. |
| 02:21.04 | harldephin | what's the depressing part then |
| 02:21.06 | Xuerian | So you get extra gold. Why is this depresssing? |
| 02:21.28 | Kemayo | Well, mainly it's the reminder that I don't get to play with someone I enjoy playing with again. :P |
| 02:21.37 | Xuerian | >.<; |
| 02:21.42 | harldephin | oh. |
| 02:22.11 | Diao | :( |
| 02:22.33 | Nimble_Rabbit | here we are all fantasizing about free gold being happy |
| 02:22.37 | Nimble_Rabbit | and you got us depressed T_T |
| 02:22.53 | ckknight | Kemayo: can I ask why she quit |
| 02:22.55 | ckknight | ? |
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| 02:23.31 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6111.0 |
| 02:23.35 | Industrial | lets all be sad about that |
| 02:23.39 | Industrial | at least, I am |
| 02:24.34 | Andune | I'm in the market for a new buff/debuff mod.. |
| 02:24.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ~comfort Industrial |
| 02:25.26 | purl | There, there, Industrial. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 02:25.27 | Funkeh` | how much are you willing to pay? |
| 02:25.27 | Andune | I'm looking for something that works kinda like Auraus in Pitbull |
| 02:25.27 | Andune | except, say I have a Priest in the party, I want it to show that I'm missing the fort buff |
| 02:25.32 | Andune | but when I have the fort buff on me, I want it to show nothing at all. |
| 02:25.53 | Andune | so ideally all it will ever show is debuffs, or any buffs I'm missing. |
| 02:26.01 | Andune | any buff mods out there do that? |
| 02:26.02 | Industrial | tell the pries tto do his job better if you notice missing buffs? |
| 02:26.13 | Nimble_Rabbit | sad about..what..exacly |
| 02:26.21 | Andune | I PuG a lot, I get tired of repeating myself :P |
| 02:26.22 | Nimble_Rabbit | I read the thread and see no sad |
| 02:26.40 | Industrial | Nimble_Rabbit: the state of this forum. Why even allow another thread about this? theres no moderation. |
| 02:26.57 | Kemayo | ckknight: Because WoW eats her soul. :P |
| 02:26.57 | Xuerian | Industrial: I think you have a point, the whole "If it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality goes well. The problem is, someone was asking how. And if there's the option, there's no reason to keep them from doing it, is there? Ace2 a lot about choice anyway, isn't it? That's why we have options dialogs that let us disable the addon itself, while keeping plugins running? ;) |
| 02:26.59 | Nimble_Rabbit | Why not allow it |
| 02:27.36 | Andune | I've just noticed that when I get a ton of buffs, including things like paly auras, leader of the pack, etc, I've got like 15 lines of buffs. But all I really want to know is what I'm missing. |
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| 02:28.07 | Diao | oh nm you're right |
| 02:28.07 | Diao | i do use automaton's |
| 02:28.09 | Industrial | you cant mix lots of people with no moderation - it just doenst work |
| 02:28.23 | Diao | but i still only have to click once |
| 02:28.39 | Xuerian | Andune: A nice smart "BuffMissing" module for ebb or something would be cool, only showing buffs you don't have if there's somone that should be casting them. |
| 02:28.42 | Nimble_Rabbit | Industrial: what exactly is the problem with that thread |
| 02:28.50 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: did you actually notice? |
| 02:29.01 | Andune | xuerian: Yep I use EBB now. I would love that. |
| 02:29.12 | Xuerian | Andune: Go find Elkano :P |
| 02:29.17 | Nimble_Rabbit | Andune: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6099.0 Somebody is making an addon in that thread |
| 02:29.27 | Nimble_Rabbit | Andune: basically a fubar plugin that should do exactly what you want |
| 02:29.42 | Andune | cool, I'll read up. ty for the pointer |
| 02:29.51 | Xuerian | Haha, verbatim. |
| 02:29.53 | Nimble_Rabbit | It's probably up on the SVN right now, it's called InvertBuffsFU for now |
| 02:30.15 | harldephin | lol |
| 02:30.36 | Gokie | haha |
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| 02:31.09 | Industrial | Nimble_Rabbit: the partly but not really proven topic, even I (like im someone hah) dont know whats going on anymore. Have you seen the wiki? how outdated is that. The svn is so big you cant find your way in there if you are looking for some kind of addon, and way more. And I experience it as being to only one noticing this :P |
| 02:31.40 | Nimble_Rabbit | Oh well I agree on those points |
| 02:31.44 | Xuerian | Industrial: All valid points, but you've got to consider, this is a development environment |
| 02:31.45 | Nimble_Rabbit | but as to the forum post, I think it's fine |
| 02:31.55 | Industrial | Xuerian: with what, 50000 users? |
| 02:32.01 | Xuerian | Industrial: Yes |
| 02:32.03 | Industrial | (just saying some number) |
| 02:32.03 | Nimble_Rabbit | somebody using a forum to, god forbid, ask a question is ok |
| 02:32.06 | Xuerian | And it's still plainly labeled as such |
| 02:32.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Industrial: you're not the only one noticing it. I just ignore and disregard people too dumb to figure it out intelligently. |
| 02:32.10 | Diao | use xrs lol |
| 02:32.14 | Diao | it tells you what buffs are missing >.> |
| 02:32.34 | Industrial | NightHawkTheSane: well I dont like it to be a dumpster |
| 02:32.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i also don't spend much time on the wowace forums. >.> |
| 02:33.15 | Nimble_Rabbit | every forum is like that, it's not a big deal if somebody comes and asks a questoin that's been answered before |
| 02:33.25 | Nimble_Rabbit | somebody will spend 5 seconds of their day, answer it again, and then that's over with |
| 02:33.28 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: I actually fluctuate on things like that. I'm a person who finds everything but trivial stuff I can bug people with funny results for, myself. I also get pissed at people who aren't willing to figure things out themselves if whatever it is just takes a little trial and error, or common sense. They seriously, really piss me off. But if someone asks a honest question, it's fair game, imo |
| 02:33.38 | Industrial | Nimble_Rabbit: if only there was a clear answer |
| 02:34.16 | Nimble_Rabbit | Xuerian: What is wrong with somebody asking a question that takes a person literally 10 seconds to answer when it would have taken possibly 10 minutes to figure out yourself |
| 02:34.26 | Industrial | i cant answer it - I just say leave it alone because its made to work like that |
| 02:34.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Nimble_Rabbit: because they would have figured it out -themselves- |
| 02:34.37 | Xuerian | =) |
| 02:34.41 | Xuerian | Precisely. |
| 02:34.44 | Nimble_Rabbit | woooo |
| 02:34.45 | Nimble_Rabbit | T_T |
| 02:34.56 | NimbleRabit | god that name was bugging me |
| 02:34.58 | Xuerian | :p |
| 02:36.35 | Xuerian | Oh hey, when did we loose karma on the forums? |
| 02:36.41 | Industrial | :p |
| 02:37.50 | NightHawkTheSane | when Industrial's karma went so negative, it actually rolled around to ~32k positive. |
| 02:37.56 | NimbleRabit | Is there an ace mod to track cooldowns besides cooldown timers |
| 02:38.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 02:38.19 | Andune | nimble_rabbit: well doesn't appear to be in SVN yet, unless it's not on the trunk. Guess I'll wait till it shows up :) |
| 02:38.20 | NimbleRabit | besides cooldowntimers2* |
| 02:38.33 | NimbleRabit | Yeah I'm waiting for it as well |
| 02:38.43 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35834 10Quartz/ (12 files in 4 dirs): |
| 02:38.43 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 02:38.43 | CIA-23 | - Add Interrupt module, which just switches the castbar text/color when you get a spell interrupted. |
| 02:38.48 | NimbleRabit | the old version, BuffMe, was perfect besides the whole not working thing |
| 02:38.55 | Andune | heh |
| 02:38.59 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Lol |
| 02:39.58 | Diao | wtf |
| 02:40.50 | nymbia | Xuerian: some guy posted a thread whining about getting a couple points negative. people hit him with more negative for whining about it, so he went on whining for like 3 pages |
| 02:40.57 | Xuerian | hahaha |
| 02:41.01 | nymbia | Xuerian: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5075.0 |
| 02:41.02 | Xuerian | So retarded |
| 02:41.32 | nymbia | was pretty great |
| 02:41.40 | nymbia | the guy had like -5 at the start of the thread |
| 02:41.55 | nymbia | and ended up with -150 or so |
| 02:41.56 | NimbleRabit | so I looked up "Forget" and the definition I got first was "Unknow" |
| 02:41.57 | NimbleRabit | ... |
| 02:42.07 | Xuerian | haha |
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| 02:42.31 | NightHawkTheSane | man, i know this is kind of redundant, but this ramen tastes like crap. |
| 02:46.44 | kenlyric | s/redundant/impossible |
| 02:47.06 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r35835 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Plugins/BigWigs_Plugins.toc Plugins/Range.lua): BigWigs: Plugins: re-add range plugin for 2.1 (apparently fixed) |
| 02:47.06 | NimbleRabit | what does that mean |
| 02:47.32 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: really? |
| 02:47.47 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: so people say |
| 02:49.15 | NimbleRabit | So, i've always wondered: is there a significance do those version numbers and if not why are they always so high |
| 02:49.34 | NightHawkTheSane | the increment sequentially. |
| 02:49.47 | NightHawkTheSane | s/the/they/ |
| 02:49.55 | Funkeh` | revision =/= version |
| 02:50.22 | NimbleRabit | so there has been 35 thousand revisions |
| 02:50.38 | wobin | So |
| 02:50.39 | nymbia | yup |
| 02:50.40 | NightHawkTheSane | to the entire subversion repository, yes |
| 02:50.41 | wobin | Shammy addons |
| 02:50.43 | wobin | what's good? |
| 02:50.54 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: ankhtimerfu and gotwood |
| 02:51.05 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: besides that, nothing really specific |
| 02:51.23 | wobin | gotwood is just a timermod isn't it? |
| 02:51.26 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 02:51.27 | wobin | it doesn't seem to recast |
| 02:51.30 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 02:51.59 | kenlyric | I like yata, though I haven't tried those other. |
| 02:53.12 | NimbleRabit | I can't imagien shamans really needingmuch class specific addons |
| 02:54.08 | ulic | some people like something other then bars to manage their bazillion totems :) |
| 02:54.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ulic: shame there's nothing particularly good to do so. |
| 02:55.08 | NightHawkTheSane | best I've found is a 4x6 block of action buttons |
| 02:55.25 | ulic | I've tried a few, never been completely happy with just one, and am too lazy to tweak them :) |
| 02:55.43 | ulic | NightHawkTheSane: that's how I started, only at lvl52, still deciding what I like |
| 02:55.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ulic: my shammy's 70 and still uses it :P |
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| 02:57.35 | ulic | when you solo it's ok to experiment, but I'll have to commit pretty soon when I hit 58 and start grouping more. |
| 02:58.16 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, not really. its not like you ever really use more than a handful of your totems in groups |
| 02:58.19 | wobin | hm |
| 02:58.25 | wobin | Should I become a leatherworker? |
| 02:58.45 | ulic | that's true |
| 02:58.50 | BankZ | Is HealBot any good? |
| 02:59.19 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: eh, depends. the epic bop lw sets for ele and enhance are pretty good, but kind of a pain in the ass to make. I wouldn't take lw while leveling though. |
| 02:59.25 | Andune | bankz: depends on what you like. I prefer grid, my wife loves healbot. |
| 02:59.51 | NimbleRabit | does prat make a noise when people whisper you |
| 02:59.53 | BankZ | Does healbot work with raids? |
| 02:59.54 | NimbleRabit | along side the display |
| 03:00.03 | BankZ | or just parties |
| 03:00.14 | wobin | NightHawkTheSane: hm yeah, I could never get enthusiastic enough to make the epic sets |
| 03:00.20 | wobin | maybe I'll stick to herb/alch |
| 03:00.22 | Andune | bankz: she's in kara right now. You only get 10 bars or so, so you have to choose who you want to watch. |
| 03:00.41 | Andune | bankz: or with <=10, it doesn't matter. But she used to heal MC with it too. |
| 03:00.46 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: i'm at 351 and my enthusiasm is.. yeah, lacking. THe fact that i have to get to 375 just to make them, and fucking tailors only need 350 is real pain in the ass. |
| 03:01.05 | wobin | hm |
| 03:01.08 | BankZ | Andune: so you cant wait a full 25 man? |
| 03:01.10 | wobin | I could do engineering again... |
| 03:01.14 | wobin | ahahaahahaha |
| 03:01.20 | BankZ | *watch, not wair |
| 03:01.21 | wobin | I crack me up =P |
| 03:01.28 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: yeah, i lol'd ;) |
| 03:01.42 | Andune | bankz: I don't know, maybe you could get 25 bars on it. I've never tried. |
| 03:02.07 | BankZ | ok, ill check it out more |
| 03:02.13 | BankZ | need to speed up my healing |
| 03:02.14 | wobin | yeah, I'll go do alch |
| 03:02.46 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm thinking i might drop skinning, re-level herbalism, and just buy the stuff i need to finish leveling lw |
| 03:02.55 | NimbleRabit | why |
| 03:02.58 | NimbleRabit | skinning isn't bad |
| 03:03.08 | wobin | I miss skinning, actually |
| 03:03.14 | NightHawkTheSane | its a pain in the as and less money than herbalism. |
| 03:03.23 | wobin | It seems such a waste to leave those corpses around |
| 03:03.33 | BankZ | Anyone know if there is a fubar plugin for SWStats? |
| 03:03.39 | kenlyric | skinning is what you do when you're killing beasts anyway. |
| 03:03.45 | wobin | BankZ: Probably SWStatsFu =) |
| 03:03.46 | kenlyric | when you stop that, you stop skinning. |
| 03:04.28 | BankZ | ok, must be blind |
| 03:05.16 | BankZ | Is it on the wowace site? |
| 03:05.32 | BankZ | nvm |
| 03:05.34 | BankZ | I see it |
| 03:06.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, you must be blind. ;) |
| 03:06.46 | NightHawkTheSane | mm.. marionberry pie icecream |
| 03:08.04 | kenlyric | that's not icecream foo |
| 03:08.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ... yes it is. |
| 03:08.16 | BankZ | Is there a healbot plugin for fubar? |
| 03:08.18 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone here use VLC? |
| 03:08.19 | kenlyric | that's pure grade-a columbian |
| 03:08.37 | wobin | NightHawkTheSane: Not for a while now |
| 03:08.48 | haste | I personally like mplayer over VLC |
| 03:09.03 | NimbleRabit | I use vlc only when nothing else works |
| 03:09.07 | NimbleRabit | it plays Everything |
| 03:09.11 | hyperChipmunk | same, but sometimes gotta use vlc ...exactly |
| 03:09.18 | haste | so does mplayer, but more! |
| 03:09.19 | Xuerian | Actually, I've had vlc *not* play some things |
| 03:09.24 | haste | and it has nicer ass support |
| 03:09.25 | Xuerian | Namely ripped dvds over network |
| 03:09.51 | hyperChipmunk | when mplayer can't play something (very rare), then i try vlc |
| 03:10.09 | haste | mplayer also mencoder, which makes it even greater |
| 03:10.13 | Gokie | every once in a while I have wmvs that I can't seek using MPlayer or WMP |
| 03:10.18 | Gokie | and then I use VLC |
| 03:10.33 | wobin | And then there's realplayer =P |
| 03:10.40 | NimbleRabit | I thought mplayer was a linux thing |
| 03:10.45 | haste | wobin: Buffering... |
| 03:10.53 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: No |
| 03:10.59 | NightHawkTheSane | there's mplayer and vlc ports for all platforms, iirc |
| 03:11.09 | haste | NimbleRabit: MPUI is a nice front-end for mplayer under Windows |
| 03:11.17 | NimbleRabit | hmm |
| 03:11.22 | NimbleRabit | I really liked mplayer when I used linux |
| 03:11.33 | sylvanaar | how annoying, i have to make another fix |
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| 03:11.52 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: why is WAU downloading glorylib and waterfall in .14? :) |
| 03:12.14 | sylvanaar | they are listed as "dependancies" |
| 03:12.17 | hyperChipmunk | mplayer wins because of its beautiful console interface |
| 03:12.32 | Funkeh` | dependancies to what? i have no addons with those dependancies |
| 03:12.39 | hyperChipmunk | and the fact that you can load up music and screen it out of sight |
| 03:12.53 | NimbleRabit | I think I'll give mplayer a try |
| 03:12.54 | haste | hyperChipmunk: mpd! |
| 03:13.04 | haste | hyperChipmunk: that's what you use for music |
| 03:13.10 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: and i don't use SAL i control it myself |
| 03:13.14 | Xuerian | FouBarh :D |
| 03:13.17 | Xuerian | 2k. |
| 03:13.22 | NimbleRabit | itunes |
| 03:13.23 | NimbleRabit | T_T |
| 03:13.30 | Xuerian | Duuuuude. |
| 03:13.48 | NimbleRabit | iTunes works just fine for me, so meh |
| 03:13.49 | Xuerian | Weak. Totally. |
| 03:14.07 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: where are these 'dependancies' being read |
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| 03:14.15 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` they are dependancies in latest-noext.xml |
| 03:14.17 | NightHawkTheSane | itunes works fine for me, too. :P |
| 03:14.50 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: again, to what? i don't see how WAU downloading addons i don't want, don't use, and don't need is good |
| 03:14.50 | NimbleRabit | what does iirc mean |
| 03:14.54 | NightHawkTheSane | course, it does take a little while to open when i have a few thousand songs. |
| 03:15.09 | hyperChipmunk | ~wtf iirc |
| 03:15.11 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 03:15.19 | NimbleRabit | ahh |
| 03:15.20 | kenlyric | if I remember correctly, iirc means.. errr, that. |
| 03:15.26 | NimbleRabit | NightHawkTheSane: everything on my computer takes forever to open |
| 03:15.29 | sylvanaar | i cant win |
| 03:15.40 | art3mis | thts because you're a little girl ;P |
| 03:15.42 | NimbleRabit | WoW takes like 5 minutes |
| 03:15.59 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: some nub addon you have lists them as deps then? |
| 03:16.02 | kenlyric | that's just the mods. |
| 03:16.05 | sylvanaar | no |
| 03:16.07 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: ofc not |
| 03:16.13 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: thats what im saying |
| 03:16.26 | Funkeh` | i have NO addons with glory lib and waterfall as DEPS |
| 03:16.33 | sylvanaar | the thing which makes filelist-noext.xml changes optdeps to deps |
| 03:16.40 | Funkeh` | i have NO addons with lorylib gull stop |
| 03:16.52 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:16.56 | Funkeh` | well thats smart |
| 03:17.15 | Funkeh` | first AceLibrary forces me to load waterfall, i deleter waterfall, now its auto downloaded also |
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| 03:17.47 | sylvanaar | well it was a choice that was made before the use of optdep was really understood |
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| 03:18.07 | sylvanaar | Personally, i am taking out all my optdeps i think, unless there is a good reason not to |
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| 03:18.38 | vhaarr | not that I can see |
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| 03:19.39 | sylvanaar | yeah, just deal for now Funkeh` |
| 03:19.39 | Funkeh` | for now? |
| 03:19.39 | Funkeh` | so it will change? |
| 03:19.39 | Cryect | Sure there is a good reason for Option Deps |
| 03:19.40 | NimbleRabit | ~wtf |
| 03:19.41 | Cryect | If you want those libs to get loaded before your addon :-p |
| 03:19.41 | sylvanaar | well, i think you get glory/waterfall from prat's optdeps |
| 03:19.41 | Cryect | I've forgot it a couple times |
| 03:19.41 | Cryect | well yeah no reaosn to have duplicates |
| 03:19.44 | Cryect | but not like it really matters |
| 03:19.58 | Funkeh` | err |
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| 03:20.03 | vhaarr | Cryect: eh? |
| 03:20.08 | Cryect | whats eh? |
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| 03:20.11 | sylvanaar | for ace libraries, they dont need to be in your toc at all |
| 03:20.17 | Funkeh` | so if someone sets AL to not force addon loading, then wants standalone WaterfallLib and Prat? |
| 03:20.22 | vhaarr | AceLibrary loads the required libraries, you don't need OptDeps for that. |
| 03:20.22 | Cryect | I mean it doesn't matter if you have a dep twice |
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| 03:20.58 | Funkeh` | i don't see why you should change that to suit WAU |
| 03:21.17 | sylvanaar | its not - the new updater is going to do it too |
| 03:21.21 | Cryect | Sure you do it wasn't working for when I was fiddling around with something earlier that it wasn't being loaded first |
| 03:21.24 | Funkeh` | whats the point of a program for controlling what addons you have when it removes control |
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| 03:41.31 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 and older will soon be disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater |
| 03:41.39 | Xuerian | A possible way to check optdeps, is to string match "lib" to the name, if that's possible :D |
| 03:41.56 | nymbia | X-Embeds should be fine |
| 03:41.57 | vhaarr | Xuerian: Not since some nubcakes started checking in libs with the "Name-1.0" syntax. |
| 03:41.58 | sylvanaar | yeah, though the name of the library in x-embed is tecnically different |
| 03:42.09 | Xuerian | vhaarr: No, I mean in the toc. <.< |
| 03:42.10 | Funkeh` | yeah x-embeds would do |
| 03:42.16 | Funkeh` | just give us a way to turn it off :) |
| 03:42.30 | Nargiddley | vhaarr, i was told to do exactly that :P |
| 03:44.13 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: I know. |
| 03:44.13 | sylvanaar | its changed |
| 03:44.14 | nymbia | i'm sure there's a lot of addons in there with incorrect X-Embeds fields |
| 03:44.14 | Xuerian | We've corrected more things before |
| 03:44.14 | nymbia | yup |
| 03:44.14 | Xuerian | Best to get things in line anyway |
| 03:44.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: er, you mean matching 'lib' in the path, as in libs/Waterfall/Waterfall.lua ? |
| 03:44.15 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: I don't support it, but certain other people do. |
| 03:44.15 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: No, since whoever added "lib: " infront of the toc name of most of the lib addons |
| 03:44.15 | NightHawkTheSane | oooh |
| 03:44.16 | ckknight | Kemayo: lack of shame is important. |
| 03:44.16 | Nargiddley | vhaarr, yeah i'm not sure on it myself started out calling it WaterfallLib on branches |
| 03:44.17 | Xuerian | I guess that wouldn't really help dynamically determining deps, more only getting deps. Or checking which optdeps really are deps |
| 03:44.18 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: I remember |
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| 03:48.45 | sylvanaar | the format for x-embeds: <name on wiki page> |
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| 03:49.40 | Kemayo | Funkeh` / wobin / NightHawkTheSane: There's actually a gui for my script sitting in its SVN, if that's preferable. I haven't written hookups for its preferences tab yet, but it works fine with the script's defaults. :D |
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| 03:50.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: i prefer cli anyway. |
| 03:52.02 | wobin | what sort of gui? |
| 03:53.53 | fleetfoot | kemayo: i just had a go with youre script, and the -e switch doesnt seem to work |
| 03:54.15 | Xuerian | Who the hell gets Talbuks as mounts? >_> |
| 03:54.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: people with too much time on their hands. |
| 03:54.41 | fleetfoot | sorry i mean -u |
| 03:55.04 | wobin | I have... 160 more beads |
| 03:55.09 | wobin | before I can get my talbuk |
| 03:55.13 | Kemayo | fleetfoot: Yeah, it's not hooked up in the latest release version (oops). Just grab: http://wowacepy.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/wowace.py |
| 03:55.18 | Seyken | NightHawkTheSane: questing in nagrand makes you revered fast |
| 03:55.25 | sylvanaar | i actually added a the reverse, command line for the GUI options wowaceupdater /update /autoexit |
| 03:55.27 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 03:55.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Seyken: you need exalted for the mount, though :P |
| 03:55.35 | Xuerian | Freaking hell |
| 03:55.36 | Kemayo | wobin: A gui with tabs 'n lists 'n buttons. |
| 03:55.37 | fleetfoot | ahhh thx kem |
| 03:55.40 | Xuerian | Mightaswell go for the phoenix XD |
| 03:55.56 | Kemayo | wobin: I guess I can get a screenshot. |
| 03:56.07 | wobin | for what os? |
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| 03:57.06 | NimbleRabit | man people need to create better documentation for addons |
| 03:57.26 | wobin | Well volunteered! |
| 03:57.32 | sylvanaar | seriously |
| 03:57.36 | NimbleRabit | I'd be glad to |
| 03:57.38 | NimbleRabit | if someone asked |
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| 03:57.50 | sylvanaar | Prat needs help, its release is this weekend |
| 03:57.50 | NightHawkTheSane | i think you just volunteered :p |
| 03:58.03 | vhaarr | NimbleRabit: BigWigs needs some docs as well. |
| 03:58.05 | Kemayo | wobin: This sort of gui: http://kemayo.dyndns.org/wowacepy_gui.png |
| 03:58.08 | NimbleRabit | Gimme a link or something where I can see what it needs sylvanaar |
| 03:58.11 | Kemayo | wobin: For any os with Python. |
| 03:58.12 | NimbleRabit | I'll help how I can |
| 03:58.46 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Prat |
| 03:58.56 | Kemayo | wobin: Screenshot is from windows, for that is the os I play wow on. It should, in theory, work on mac or linux as well, so long as the wxwindows package is installed. |
| 03:59.08 | fleetfoot | kemayo: nope, -u still doesnt work even with the latest svn |
| 03:59.25 | kergoth | are ora2 player targets working for anyone atm? |
| 03:59.29 | kergoth | cause they don't do a damn thing here |
| 03:59.34 | kergoth | :\ |
| 03:59.37 | Kemayo | fleetfoot: This does not surprise me, for -u doesn't do anything. |
| 03:59.38 | NimbleRabit | vhaarr: Doubt I could help, I've only done up to prince in kara |
| 03:59.44 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Prat/Integrated_Modules/Sandbox |
| 03:59.58 | Kemayo | Oh, it does, drat. |
| 04:00.32 | fleetfoot | haha, you might wanna remove it as an option then :) |
| 04:01.03 | Kemayo | fleetfoot: Give me a second, and I'll fix that! |
| 04:02.06 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: So do I make edit's to the sandbox? |
| 04:02.15 | Xuerian | Rofl at the FelReaver stand5 anim |
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| 04:02.34 | Kemayo | fleetfoot: Okay, grab the file again. I'd forgotten to add a line in. http://wowacepy.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/wowace.py |
| 04:02.55 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit well, the sandbox has all the text imported from prat - it needs to be out of the sandbox |
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| 04:03.17 | Kemayo | fleetfoot: The warning must be given that the unpackaging option has not been extensively tested. As you might have noticed. :D |
| 04:04.56 | NimbleRabit | are the accounts not the same as the forums? |
| 04:04.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: eh? |
| 04:05.20 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: WoWModelViewer. The Felreaver's Stand[5] emote :p |
| 04:05.28 | NightHawkTheSane | oh.. kay.. |
| 04:05.30 | vhaarr | NimbleRabit: For the wiki? no. |
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| 04:06.17 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: so just add more info and clean up the Modules page? |
| 04:07.15 | fleetfoot | kemayo: replace unpackage with unpackage_addon on line 96 and it works like a charm |
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| 04:08.07 | Bruners | how can i move the battleground icon on the minimap? |
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| 04:11.19 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: ok I'll start doing that |
| 04:11.32 | NimbleRabit | although prat isn't exactly the type of mod I was referencing when I said they need more documentation |
| 04:11.42 | NimbleRabit | the mods I hate are the ones where I literally have to download it just to understand the addon |
| 04:15.13 | Funkeh` | kergoth: i think it screws if you try to set em in combat |
| 04:16.59 | Lyfe | can anyone tell me how to get my own name in a mod? (I cannot for the life of me find an API function for it...) |
| 04:18.10 | NightHawkTheSane | you're probably not looking hard enough, check wowwiki |
| 04:18.59 | Lyfe | is that a "i don't know either, but i'm sure wowwiki probably has it" or "go rtfm, cause obviously you haven't been looking for the past 20 minutes" (and if it's the latter, i have many many choice words for you) |
| 04:19.17 | vhaarr | it's a rtfm |
| 04:19.26 | vhaarr | perhaps you could be more specific |
| 04:19.42 | Lyfe | um.. i want to get my characters own name. |
| 04:19.43 | vhaarr | "how can I get my name in an addon" sounds like you want to stick your name on someone elses work |
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| 04:20.05 | Funkeh` | kdh98349u52njrwoiqj out of sync torrents |
| 04:20.16 | vhaarr | Lyfe: UnitName("player") |
| 04:21.33 | Funkeh` | so i edit it, do a -200ms on audio |
| 04:21.35 | Funkeh` | it syncs |
| 04:21.42 | Funkeh` | then 10min later out of sycn again |
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| 04:24.07 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35839 10Quartz/ (12 files in 12 dirs): |
| 04:24.07 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 04:24.07 | CIA-23 | - Useful descriptions in module tocs. |
| 04:24.47 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: why is there an Enable command but no Disable |
| 04:25.00 | kergoth | Funkeh`, i tried both in and out of combat :\ |
| 04:25.10 | Funkeh` | tried an /rl ? |
| 04:25.43 | kergoth | tried in multiple game instances, complete restarts |
| 04:25.44 | kergoth | i dunno |
| 04:25.53 | kergoth | i wonder.. |
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| 04:26.01 | kergoth | this was after manually enabling ora2, since i wasnt in the raid |
| 04:26.04 | kergoth | i wonder if that was the issue |
| 04:26.27 | Funkeh` | i don't think it should be |
| 04:29.18 | kergoth | has anyone tried to bind keys to numbers ont he numeric keypad in wow? |
| 04:29.35 | kergoth | it says "numlock" for the name of the key when i input it into the keybindings interface, and now -any- key on the numeric keypad triggers taht ability |
| 04:29.43 | kergoth | yet all the keypad numbers work fine in a chat editbox. |
| 04:31.57 | Funkeh` | awesome |
| 04:32.05 | Funkeh` | i stripped the audio completely |
| 04:32.07 | Funkeh` | re added it |
| 04:32.11 | Funkeh` | works! |
| 04:32.18 | wobin | oh man |
| 04:32.31 | wobin | Using Quartz with a queued tradeskill is great =) |
| 04:33.46 | NightHawkTheSane | isn't it though? |
| 04:34.22 | nymbia | ~blame kergoth |
| 04:34.35 | purl | ACTION blames kergoth (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 04:34.35 | nymbia | ;) |
| 04:34.57 | Funkeh` | imo |
| 04:35.02 | Funkeh` | its nymbias fault |
| 04:35.06 | Funkeh` | its never not! |
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| 04:36.00 | ckknight | hey everybody |
| 04:36.01 | ckknight | pants! |
| 04:36.05 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's pants. |
| 04:37.07 | Funkeh` | hey ckknight |
| 04:37.46 | Neebler | ~emulate nymbia |
| 04:37.57 | purl | your users smell |
| 04:38.13 | NimbleRabit | yeah so some wierdo |
| 04:38.16 | Neebler | need to switch purl over to eggdrop |
| 04:38.18 | NimbleRabit | had a bunch of <br> tags on the prat wiki |
| 04:38.24 | Neebler | and not some laggy perl script |
| 04:38.29 | Funkeh` | emulate nymbia = i blame Funkeh` |
| 04:38.32 | NimbleRabit | is there a point to them before I remove them all? |
| 04:38.36 | ulic | ckknight: any idea why sometimes the 3d portrait pops to the full model, not just the head? |
| 04:39.47 | kergoth | ~emulate fry |
| 04:39.52 | purl | My folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. What am I, the pope? |
| 04:40.07 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 04:45.39 | Funkeh` | http://files.filefront.com/Heaven___Gruuls_Lairavi/;7517788;/fileinfo.html awesome :) |
| 04:50.03 | Lyfe | i swear i'm just completely missing out on how to deal with this api sometimes. |
| 04:50.19 | Cryect | hmmm |
| 04:50.32 | NimbleRabit | is there an addon that gives a display of marked targets and allows you click on it to target that person |
| 04:50.40 | NimbleRabit | example: Click the X on the display to target the X |
| 04:50.41 | wobin | not any more |
| 04:50.55 | wobin | ie impossible with 2.0 |
| 04:50.57 | Cryect | yep :( |
| 04:51.08 | Cryect | blizzard apparently doesn't wnat us targetting them easily |
| 04:51.12 | nymbia | we should get unitids for those |
| 04:51.15 | Cryect | I had hope they would give us special units for htem |
| 04:52.00 | NimbleRabit | wobin: even if they didn't change mid combat it's still not possible? |
| 04:52.01 | wobin | /macro [target=robotnipple] |
| 04:52.09 | Kaydeethree | if they give us unitids for raid icons, they'd have to disable the programmatic setting of raid icons |
| 04:52.17 | Kaydeethree | otherwise, hello decursive 2.0 |
| 04:52.35 | nymbia | true |
| 04:54.36 | Funkeh` | http://files.filefront.com/ASV_Ep_1_MOVmov/;7518252;/fileinfo.html rofl |
| 04:55.01 | NightHawkTheSane | "Does anyone else want to point out a naked puppet?" |
| 04:58.06 | kergoth | nymbia, using my salt shaker hoses the quartz cast bar |
| 04:58.12 | kergoth | nymbia, showed no spell name on the bar |
| 04:58.25 | kergoth | nymbia, then when it finished, it showed a negative cast time remaining, and the bar was stuck on the screen |
| 04:58.39 | kergoth | and casting something else didnt fix it, it was stuck that wya |
| 04:58.40 | nymbia | kergoth: that damn salt shaker. |
| 04:58.44 | kergoth | :P |
| 05:01.22 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: you there? |
| 05:02.01 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: need some help! |
| 05:02.59 | vhaarr | Anyone know where I can learn to make Heavy Runecloth Bandages as horde, is it in Hammerfall? |
| 05:03.33 | Gokie | Falcon Wing |
| 05:03.41 | Gokie | *watch |
| 05:03.42 | Megalon | hammerfall, arathi |
| 05:03.45 | NimbleRabit | how do I send sylvanaar a ping noise or something |
| 05:03.46 | Gokie | er, wait |
| 05:03.47 | NimbleRabit | to make him/her come back |
| 05:03.49 | Gokie | runecloth |
| 05:03.53 | Megalon | runecloth, falcon watch is netherweave |
| 05:03.55 | Gokie | thought you said netherweave |
| 05:03.58 | Gokie | it's hammerfall |
| 05:04.01 | vhaarr | so it's hammerfall, then, thanks |
| 05:05.02 | vhaarr | NimbleRabit: you just did. |
| 05:05.14 | vhaarr | NimbleRabit: saying someones nick is ping enough. |
| 05:06.23 | NimbleRabit | ugh |
| 05:06.29 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: what level is your hordie? |
| 05:06.30 | NimbleRabit | I'm having trouble with this documentation |
| 05:06.31 | NimbleRabit | when for some reason |
| 05:06.37 | NimbleRabit | not all modules have / commands |
| 05:06.37 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: 56 |
| 05:06.47 | Funkeh` | nice |
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| 05:09.50 | Funkeh` | later all |
| 05:10.04 | Sole | good evening |
| 05:11.05 | Bruners | good evening |
| 05:14.37 | Kaydeethree | damn it, across all of the intertubs no one in wow general can find a live video stream? |
| 05:15.23 | nymbia | seriously |
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| 05:18.29 | kenlyric | no live updated blog? |
| 05:19.07 | Kaydeethree | http://pc.ign.com/articles/788/788627p1.html |
| 05:19.36 | Cryect | 1up I think had something but their site crashed or whatever |
| 05:19.43 | Cryect | so just ign at the moment |
| 05:24.20 | abyssichate | I want to go to bed, duh |
| 05:25.48 | NimbleRabit | would "/prat addonmsgs show <chatframe eg. chat1>" be better written "/prat addonmsgs show <chatframe>(eg. chat1)" or should I leave as is? |
| 05:26.26 | vhaarr | leave |
| 05:26.41 | NimbleRabit | if you say so |
| 05:27.12 | vhaarr | Shouldn't that be "ChatFrame1" anyway? |
| 05:27.19 | NimbleRabit | I don't know |
| 05:27.19 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:28.03 | NimbleRabit | nope I tested chat1 is correct |
| 05:28.06 | NimbleRabit | I got spammed like crazy |
| 05:28.08 | NimbleRabit | with addon messages |
| 05:28.48 | NimbleRabit | what's dumb is that you can type /prat enable <modulename> |
| 05:28.50 | NimbleRabit | but there is no disable |
| 05:28.52 | NimbleRabit | besides toggle |
| 05:28.56 | NimbleRabit | which can't be used to enable |
| 05:30.25 | kenlyric | seriously, why don't these noobs have one without 27 pictures to load? |
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| 05:32.06 | Gokie | get a browser that doesn't wait for images to load before loading text =P |
| 05:34.02 | kenlyric | oh, it's not, it's just annoying that they don't have a pure text version. it's like they want to hose their server. |
| 05:35.15 | Megalon | mhm |
| 05:38.05 | Cryect | Shrug they've dealt with the torrents of E3 video downloads |
| 05:38.19 | Cryect | I think they can stand a page with some text and images |
| 05:38.48 | Gokie | I'll miss the old E3 frenzies |
| 05:39.11 | Gokie | though I guess the replacement E for Everyone might end up being the same |
| 05:42.45 | ZealotOnAStick | GenCon. |
| 05:43.31 | ZealotOnAStick | GenCon Indy, already the world's largest gaming convention, is inviting electronic exhibitors to have greater participation. |
| 05:43.48 | kenlyric | no, now all the studios are doing their own shows, where all the press can congregate on them. |
| 05:44.58 | kenlyric | and also, gencon indy :) |
| 05:47.20 | Cryect | yeah everyone's been having shows htis past week or two |
| 05:47.20 | Gokie | E for Everyone is the show that's supposed to be replicating the "public" aspect of E3s of yore |
| 05:47.30 | Gokie | ie driving a million websites to argue "who won E3" |
| 05:49.58 | Cryect | and the booth babes? |
| 05:50.44 | ulic | mmm, booth babes |
| 05:50.44 | Gokie | lol |
| 05:51.07 | Gokie | I was more referring to the idiotic side of things =P |
| 05:51.08 | ulic | most of em ended up kind of slutly looking though |
| 05:51.21 | Gokie | booth babes can be a good feature ^^ |
| 05:51.22 | Bruners | the items on wowhead, are those 2.1 data? |
| 05:51.25 | ulic | and not in a good way :) |
| 05:51.27 | Gokie | yes |
| 05:51.53 | Sole | the real question is |
| 05:52.10 | Gokie | announcement imminent! |
| 05:52.20 | Sole | do the millions of nerds really give a shit if even a semi-hot girl is slutty when shes standing next to a poster of an orc? |
| 05:52.30 | Sole | theyre gonna fap over her regardless |
| 05:55.42 | Megalon | and some would fap, even if there would only be the poster of that orc :P |
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| 05:56.22 | Gokie | no comment XD |
| 05:57.40 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm..orcs... er.. >.> |
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| 05:58.49 | Sole | lol |
| 05:59.00 | Sole | so I log in to a guildy asking me if I wrote gladiator |
| 05:59.08 | Sole | what are the chances he would find it :O |
| 05:59.08 | nymbia | haha |
| 05:59.25 | Sole | nymbia: I think I might look into writing a program to release with glad |
| 05:59.40 | Sole | which would update the data for 1 battlegroup |
| 05:59.44 | nymbia | hmm |
| 05:59.50 | Sole | might be bad on the blizz server tho |
| 05:59.55 | nymbia | yeah |
| 05:59.56 | nymbia | lol |
| 06:00.32 | Sole | I want to try it just for the hell of it though |
| 06:02.05 | nymbia | yeah |
| 06:03.15 | Cryect | 3:00 - FMV sequence in a spaceship - looks Terran - zooming in on a metal door - door opening - reveals a guy with a cigar in chains - prisoner - door shuts behind him - there's so much bass the room is shaking - guy steps into some kind of metallic devicce - legs are strapped in - guy rising toward ceiling - Korean text on screen got people very excited - another part of the machine is dropping metal arms on him - machine whirring |
| 06:03.17 | abyssichate | StarCraft 2 officially announced. |
| 06:03.19 | Megalon | :> |
| 06:03.53 | Antiarc | SC2 just announced. |
| 06:03.54 | Antiarc | Wow. |
| 06:03.56 | Antiarc | Awesome. |
| 06:04.02 | NightHawkTheSane | neat |
| 06:04.04 | kergoth | Sole, well, you could have that script pull from a caching server that updates it every couple hours or something, then the load on blizz is managable... and the load on that server shouldn't be too horrible either really |
| 06:04.06 | kergoth | but *shrug* |
| 06:04.09 | NightHawkTheSane | not that anyone is.. remotely surprised. |
| 06:04.47 | NightHawkTheSane | they have a projected release time yet? |
| 06:04.51 | *** part/#wowace Jobias (n=Jobias@S0106000c6e634de8.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 06:05.42 | Bruners | hmm, do swstats have a fubarplugin? |
| 06:05.53 | nymbia | haha, neth's deleting them |
| 06:05.53 | NightHawkTheSane | yes. its on files. |
| 06:06.03 | Bruners | so not included? |
| 06:06.07 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 06:06.20 | wobin | swstats isn't a ace adodn |
| 06:06.24 | wobin | I don't think? |
| 06:06.30 | kergoth | but the fubar plugin is |
| 06:06.40 | kergoth | meh |
| 06:06.43 | Sole | kergoth: thats a good idea |
| 06:06.48 | wobin | yes? =) |
| 06:06.59 | Sole | kergoth: but that caching server would need constant updating |
| 06:07.03 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: hm? |
| 06:07.10 | kergoth | Sole, cron job ftw |
| 06:07.17 | Gokie | Fu_SWStats2Fu is the SWS plugin... no idea if it works with the latest SWS though |
| 06:07.18 | Sole | cron job? |
| 06:07.35 | kergoth | cron is a unix tool to schedule periodic execution of tasks |
| 06:07.41 | Bruners | any idead why spamsentry is not working here anymore? |
| 06:07.42 | kergoth | i.e. hourly, daily, etc |
| 06:07.46 | Bruners | *ideas |
| 06:07.47 | kergoth | i presume there's some windows equivalent |
| 06:07.58 | Sole | kergoth: ahh nifty |
| 06:08.14 | Sole | Id only have it run weekly |
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| 06:11.09 | vhaarr | Starcraft 2 officially announced. |
| 06:11.23 | Gngsk | obligatory, "welcome to five minutes ago" |
| 06:11.24 | NightHawkTheSane | jesus vhaarr, that's so 7 minutes ago. |
| 06:11.50 | Gngsk | this is happening in irc channels across the interweb! |
| 06:13.40 | wobin | hehe |
| 06:15.24 | Kemayo | Ooo. |
| 06:17.32 | Sole | starcraft 2 will make the 6 o'clock news in korea |
| 06:18.03 | Megalon | starcraft 2 will make every news in korea |
| 06:18.29 | Megalon | ;D |
| 06:18.32 | Sole | lol |
| 06:18.46 | NightHawkTheSane | starcraft 2 will make your mom in korea. |
| 06:20.43 | Xuerian | http://www.gamemeca.com/special/section/html_section/wow/community/wwi/view.html?subcode=c1137&page=1&search_kind=&search_text=&id=84&gid=84&head |
| 06:20.49 | vhaarr | in soviet russia, sc2 plays you |
| 06:21.20 | vhaarr | "3:14 - Protoss colossus - huge unit that can blast out dual lasers and use long legs to traverse differences in terrain height - in the demo two of them obliterate about fifty or so zerglings." |
| 06:21.23 | vhaarr | omgomg |
| 06:21.53 | Diao | so it's an rts? |
| 06:21.58 | Xuerian | yes |
| 06:22.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i figured that was a given |
| 06:24.50 | Kaydeethree | honestly, I'm surprised viv let them do an RTS with the kind of money they're getting from the mmo revenue stream |
| 06:25.18 | Diao | what's with the character pane |
| 06:25.22 | Diao | in the initial thing |
| 06:25.40 | Kaydeethree | holy hell at http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104563181&sid=1&pageNo=101 |
| 06:25.44 | Kaydeethree | 2000 posts and still going |
| 06:26.04 | Xuerian | haha. |
| 06:27.22 | Xuerian | Oh for.... |
| 06:27.43 | Diao | hmm |
| 06:27.49 | Diao | rumors have it that they're announcing 2 games at once |
| 06:27.52 | FISKER_Q | wthey're late! |
| 06:28.19 | FISKER_Q | site should be up now :( |
| 06:28.40 | FISKER_Q | bah |
| 06:28.44 | vhaarr | yeah lern2announce new projects imo |
| 06:28.55 | FISKER_Q | i dreamt that the link to the new site was "splash_starcraft1.shtml" |
| 06:29.02 | FISKER_Q | it wasn't :( |
| 06:29.19 | FISKER_Q | (yeah seriously i dreamt about it) |
| 06:30.47 | nymbia | rofl |
| 06:31.58 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: ARE YOU BACK YET |
| 06:33.32 | FISKER_Q | lol at the announcement thread |
| 06:33.41 | FISKER_Q | when the mods go through that people are gonna get B& |
| 06:34.03 | FISKER_Q | yay |
| 06:34.09 | FISKER_Q | i loaded one of the picutres from gamemeca |
| 06:34.21 | Kaydeethree | if they don't just temp ban all posters for 3 days or something to cool everyone off |
| 06:34.38 | FISKER_Q | yup |
| 06:34.39 | FISKER_Q | SC2 |
| 06:34.58 | FISKER_Q | there's a picture of a terran in their screenshots :o |
| 06:38.33 | Kaydeethree | http://tvpot.daum.net/theme/ThemeView.do?themeid=122&lu=m_mono_1 |
| 06:41.18 | FISKER_Q | i'm downloading it and rehosting it |
| 06:43.17 | FISKER_Q | can i make my own flv viewer quickly on a page? |
| 06:43.19 | FISKER_Q | or do i have to h4x? |
| 06:44.06 | Kaydeethree | the page is linking to an flv viewer. can't seem to find the base clip it's displaying |
| 06:44.27 | FISKER_Q | already got it |
| 06:44.40 | FISKER_Q | although i'm stuck at 98% |
| 06:45.31 | Kaydeethree | better than me... I can only get the first 10s or so of the feed before it bails and shows the three options |
| 06:45.51 | nymbia | i got 12 seconds, haHA! |
| 06:47.13 | FISKER_Q | 8 minutes and i've uploaded it |
| 06:48.49 | FISKER_Q | pretty sick movie btw :o |
| 06:50.08 | Kaydeethree | aw, they locked the uberthread |
| 06:50.10 | Kaydeethree | 2303 posts |
| 06:51.12 | FISKER_Q | bah |
| 06:51.18 | FISKER_Q | pretty annoying all the "oooooh" moments were in korean |
| 06:52.33 | FISKER_Q | so any other news than the trailer sofar? |
| 06:53.13 | Kaydeethree | most wow forumites got info from this post: http://pc.ign.com/articles/788/788627p1.html |
| 06:53.46 | Diao | learn korean :) |
| 06:53.48 | Diao | it's not that hard ;) |
| 06:54.41 | Xuerian | http://tvpot.daum.net/theme/Player.do?themeid=122&clipid=2988382 |
| 06:54.43 | ckknight | `hey all |
| 06:55.25 | Xuerian | Good luck loading it though, 20k views since I loaded the page five minutes ago |
| 06:55.35 | Kaydeethree | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXoekeDIW8 |
| 06:55.40 | Kaydeethree | reposted on youtube |
| 06:55.40 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/ <-mirror for anyone with a flv player |
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| 07:00.31 | Megalon | FISKER_Q: http://sweb.cityu.edu.hk/50689882/browse2.html => load => http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/sc2.flv |
| 07:00.47 | Megalon | if you want to link a online flv player :x |
| 07:01.45 | FISKER_Q | http://wow.gamemeca.com/special/section/html_section/wow/community/wwi/view.html?subcode=c1137&page=1&search_kind=&search_text=&id=92&gid=92&head= |
| 07:02.22 | Diao | you know |
| 07:02.23 | Diao | why |
| 07:02.26 | Diao | does blizzard |
| 07:02.30 | Diao | want to do a live action wow movie |
| 07:02.33 | Diao | instead of cgi |
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| 07:03.11 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 07:03.19 | hyperChipmunk | if they made a cg movie |
| 07:03.25 | hyperChipmunk | it'd take a decade to render |
| 07:03.44 | FISKER_Q | that cg movie was awesome though |
| 07:03.52 | FISKER_Q | obviously that's what they've been making since 1998 |
| 07:03.56 | hyperChipmunk | all of their CG is awesome |
| 07:03.56 | FISKER_Q | serverfarms couldn't handle it |
| 07:05.01 | FISKER_Q | those asian sites are sick though :( |
| 07:05.18 | Diao | lol |
| 07:05.19 | earthstorm | what's up, does anybody work on guitars? |
| 07:05.23 | kenlyric | that CG movie makes me think it's a FPS :) |
| 07:05.26 | Diao | i don't care |
| 07:05.29 | Diao | if it takes 10 years |
| 07:05.31 | Diao | i'd watch it |
| 07:05.33 | Diao | more than once >.> |
| 07:06.11 | Xuerian | WoW's original intro always gave me shivers :P |
| 07:06.38 | Xuerian | Well. The part with the infernal and the mage, anyway :P |
| 07:07.50 | Diao | lol |
| 07:08.04 | vhaarr | okay so what the hell is the marine saying, exactly? :P |
| 07:08.13 | Megalon | blizzard could render a salad bowl as an intro movie |
| 07:08.13 | vhaarr | "wooooh oooooh", I got that part |
| 07:08.17 | Megalon | and it would still be awesome :P |
| 07:08.25 | Xuerian | Something akin to what the marine said in the first one, I'd assume |
| 07:10.03 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r35840 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua recount.lua): Recount - Adds the combat times to the Graph Window |
| 07:10.39 | FISKER_Q | damn |
| 07:10.48 | FISKER_Q | all asian sites are getting so raped right now |
| 07:11.14 | Megalon | that guy at the end is saying "what took you so long" in korean |
| 07:11.28 | Megalon | quoted form a site |
| 07:11.33 | NimbleRabit | when describing a module in prat that lets you toggle on/off the language dialog button, does it seem right to also include a description of what that button does? |
| 07:11.39 | vhaarr | and that made them "wooooh"? |
| 07:11.40 | vhaarr | lol |
| 07:11.52 | FISKER_Q | hehe |
| 07:12.11 | FISKER_Q | anyone know what it said on the monitor he looked at? |
| 07:12.28 | wobin | "Greetings Gentlemen..." |
| 07:12.54 | Megalon | :c |
| 07:13.15 | NightHawkTheSane | GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD! |
| 07:13.52 | Xuerian | how can you be talking about such a pitiful thing as prat at a time like this?! |
| 07:14.19 | FISKER_Q | lol |
| 07:14.26 | FISKER_Q | it seriously can't be "Greetings Gentlemen" :( |
| 07:14.32 | Megalon | lynch him! |
| 07:16.51 | vhaarr | it says "System online" imo |
| 07:16.55 | vhaarr | "wooooh oooh!" |
| 07:17.25 | FISKER_Q | :( |
| 07:17.29 | FISKER_Q | "Goliath ONLINE!" |
| 07:17.51 | FISKER_Q | stupid lazy webmasters |
| 07:17.55 | FISKER_Q | they're 1½ hour beihnd schedlue |
| 07:17.58 | FISKER_Q | schedule* |
| 07:18.16 | FISKER_Q | couldn't even figure out a simple cronjob |
| 07:18.48 | Megalon | "Warp filed stabilzied." |
| 07:19.00 | Megalon | arbitooooo arbitoooo arbtoooooohohooooooo. |
| 07:19.09 | Megalon | korean commentators are :>>> |
| 07:19.53 | Lysithea | [09:07:45] <kenlyric> that CG movie makes me think it's a FPS :) |
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| 07:20.02 | Lysithea | http://media.pc.ign.com/media/850/850126/imgs_1.html |
| 07:20.06 | Lysithea | gameplay screens |
| 07:20.27 | Diao | all the links fail though :( lol |
| 07:22.55 | ckknight | no, not all |
| 07:23.00 | ckknight | it's definitely RTS |
| 07:23.06 | Diao | all the ones i've clicked :\ |
| 07:23.10 | Diao | "requested image not found" |
| 07:23.12 | FISKER_Q | :( |
| 07:23.15 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 07:23.15 | Diao | i can see the thumbnails though |
| 07:23.18 | ckknight | I wanna see some Xel'Naga |
| 07:23.27 | FISKER_Q | http://media.pc.ign.com/media/850/850126/img_4560191.html <-works |
| 07:23.37 | Diao | Couldn't find the requested image. |
| 07:23.38 | FISKER_Q | btw |
| 07:23.41 | FISKER_Q | worked for me |
| 07:23.42 | Diao | doesn't for me |
| 07:23.43 | Diao | :\ |
| 07:23.54 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/ <-mirroring what i can find |
| 07:24.08 | FISKER_Q | VESPENE GAS!!!!!!!! |
| 07:24.17 | evl | lol |
| 07:24.19 | FISKER_Q | look at the starcraft-2alotofnumbers.jpg |
| 07:24.21 | evl | so it was starcraft 2 |
| 07:24.23 | FISKER_Q | in 10 seconds |
| 07:24.24 | FISKER_Q | then it's up |
| 07:24.26 | FISKER_Q | now |
| 07:24.35 | evl | HOLY DSHIT |
| 07:24.38 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/starcraft-2-20070519000459482.jpg <-VESPENE GAS |
| 07:24.39 | FISKER_Q | :O |
| 07:24.54 | hyperChipmunk | we require more vespene gas |
| 07:25.00 | evl | lol at the billlboard "real men drilll deep" |
| 07:25.09 | FISKER_Q | MOAR |
| 07:25.17 | Megalon | :D |
| 07:25.17 | hyperChipmunk | hehe yea i saw that |
| 07:25.24 | NightHawkTheSane | wow, thats pretty |
| 07:27.19 | hyperChipmunk | lol @ the zergrush |
| 07:27.26 | hyperChipmunk | http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/790/790131/starcraft-2-20070519000454013.jpg |
| 07:27.31 | FISKER_Q | those graphics are to fap for |
| 07:27.36 | evl | yeagh |
| 07:27.39 | Diao | i bet |
| 07:27.43 | Diao | the final product will be even better >.> |
| 07:28.06 | NightHawkTheSane | FISKER_Q: indeed they are, but then, you'll fap to just about anything :P |
| 07:28.10 | evl | they're gonna do it again :( |
| 07:28.16 | FISKER_Q | yarr |
| 07:28.21 | evl | untouchable blizz, gg |
| 07:28.49 | Megalon | ready to roll out :( |
| 07:29.04 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/starcraft-2-20070519000504591.jpg :o |
| 07:29.08 | ckknight | frankly, I want it now :-P |
| 07:29.20 | hyperChipmunk | gas & grits |
| 07:30.33 | FISKER_Q | seriously must be out this year |
| 07:31.03 | Diao | oh man |
| 07:31.06 | Diao | i'm preordering |
| 07:31.10 | Diao | as soon as it's available |
| 07:31.39 | hyperChipmunk | the yamato gun shockwave ripple is beauty |
| 07:31.44 | evl | http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3159660 |
| 07:32.15 | FISKER_Q | i'm hacking blizzard's computer and leaking the source code as soon as possible |
| 07:32.17 | FISKER_Q | o wai |
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| 07:33.36 | ckknight | I have an idea: |
| 07:33.38 | Diao | i like how one of the advertisements |
| 07:33.40 | Diao | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/starcraft-2-20070519000513826.jpg |
| 07:33.40 | Diao | in that |
| 07:33.43 | Diao | "supernova men's club" |
| 07:33.43 | ckknight | multiplayer campaigns |
| 07:34.07 | ckknight | I figure, the internet is pretty much available everywhere now |
| 07:34.19 | ckknight | so why not have campaigns that require multiple players? |
| 07:34.23 | evl | genius |
| 07:34.26 | ckknight | or just single player + AI |
| 07:34.34 | ckknight | but be able to replace said AI with another guy on bnet |
| 07:34.37 | FISKER_Q | http://media.pc.ign.com/media/850/850126/img_4560187.html <-excuse me wtf r u doin |
| 07:34.41 | FISKER_Q | that's not starcraft 2 :( |
| 07:34.56 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 07:35.11 | ckknight | kekeke zerg rush |
| 07:35.11 | FISKER_Q | the screenshot :P |
| 07:35.28 | FISKER_Q | they're busy taking photos of some woman instead of SC2 :( |
| 07:35.44 | ckknight | oh, lol |
| 07:35.47 | ckknight | the billboard |
| 07:36.02 | ckknight | Nuke Cola! |
| 07:36.17 | Diao | yeah :p |
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| 07:41.49 | theoddone33 | my second heroic kill... we wiped on try one because the healing pally forgot to take righteous fury off |
| 07:41.54 | theoddone33 | heh! |
| 07:42.37 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/sc2-gameplay.flv <-gameplay movie |
| 07:43.06 | theoddone33 | what is flv? |
| 07:43.08 | theoddone33 | flashvideo? |
| 07:43.12 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:43.24 | theoddone33 | flava |
| 07:43.29 | FISKER_Q | http://sweb.cityu.edu.hk/50689882/browse2.html |
| 07:43.29 | Diao | someone needs to youtube that :( |
| 07:43.31 | FISKER_Q | use that |
| 07:44.26 | Xuerian | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXoekeDIW8 |
| 07:44.26 | Xuerian | flv is a little cleaner |
| 07:44.26 | Xuerian | But that's definitely easier |
| 07:44.26 | Diao | oh |
| 07:44.26 | Diao | er wait |
| 07:44.26 | Diao | no not that one |
| 07:44.27 | Diao | that's the cgi intro |
| 07:44.30 | Xuerian | Ouh |
| 07:44.30 | Diao | talking about the gameplay :P |
| 07:44.33 | Xuerian | *Downloads other thing* |
| 07:44.36 | Xuerian | shattup. |
| 07:44.38 | Diao | :P |
| 07:44.40 | evl | rofl |
| 07:44.40 | evl | <Anoia> some dude posted a video of himself fapping to the starcraft 2 trailer |
| 07:44.45 | evl | RE: Starcraft 2 trailer |
| 07:44.46 | Xuerian | ... |
| 07:45.00 | Xuerian | FISKER_Q: Never do that again |
| 07:45.00 | theoddone33 | glad the internet hasn't let us down |
| 07:45.03 | FISKER_Q | sorry |
| 07:45.48 | *** join/#wowace krka (n=krka@c83-250-203-119.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 07:46.04 | Diao | lol |
| 07:46.18 | Diao | never do what? o_O |
| 07:46.28 | Xuerian | [03:43] evl: <Anoia> some dude posted a video of himself fapping to the starcraft 2 trailer |
| 07:46.28 | hyperChipmunk | hehe those rocket dudes |
| 07:46.39 | Xuerian | [03:26] FISKER_Q: those graphics are to fap for |
| 07:46.46 | evl | rofl |
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| 07:47.22 | FISKER_Q | i'm uploading the movie now |
| 07:47.22 | FISKER_Q | to youtube |
| 07:47.29 | Neebler | hahaha |
| 07:47.34 | Diao | oh lol |
| 07:47.34 | Neebler | link! |
| 07:47.40 | FISKER_Q | only 10% |
| 07:47.46 | Cryect | you mean this isn't you FISKER_Q http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b247/salvamag/milk.gif |
| 07:47.54 | theoddone33 | that trailer link stopped at 49 seconds |
| 07:47.58 | theoddone33 | :( |
| 07:48.08 | hyperChipmunk | nuclear launch detected |
| 07:48.18 | FISKER_Q | 20%!!!!! |
| 07:48.34 | FISKER_Q | should've set my server to upload it |
| 07:48.41 | evl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXoekeDIW8 |
| 07:48.43 | evl | this one works |
| 07:48.43 | Diao | lol |
| 07:48.43 | theoddone33 | you require more vespene gas |
| 07:48.57 | Xuerian | ok |
| 07:48.57 | Xuerian | so |
| 07:48.59 | FISKER_Q | 30!!!!!! |
| 07:49.00 | Xuerian | those are fappable |
| 07:49.16 | FISKER_Q | the protoss units are fucking cool as always |
| 07:49.26 | Diao | oh god |
| 07:49.31 | Diao | i'm getting chills down my spine watching the gameplay |
| 07:49.31 | Diao | haha |
| 07:49.50 | theoddone33 | I was thinking MMORTS would be kind of cool |
| 07:49.55 | theoddone33 | it'd be like myth 2 |
| 07:49.58 | FISKER_Q | 50% |
| 07:50.00 | theoddone33 | except persistant |
| 07:50.21 | FISKER_Q | lol |
| 07:50.32 | FISKER_Q | They use the unit to write "GG" on the screen in the end |
| 07:50.35 | Diao | yeah haha |
| 07:50.58 | FISKER_Q | 60%!1 |
| 07:50.58 | theoddone33 | the screen said something in korean and everyone cheered |
| 07:51.10 | theoddone33 | I should get the korean girl at work to tell me what it said monday |
| 07:51.49 | Xuerian | HEYHEYHEYHEYHEY! - .... yes...? - What'sthissayhuhhuhuh?! =D - ... - Teeellll MEEEEEE T.T |
| 07:51.53 | Diao | haha |
| 07:52.46 | FISKER_Q | 90% |
| 07:53.00 | FISKER_Q | btw Xuerian giev link to the map fapping to the trailer |
| 07:53.10 | Xuerian | I didn't post it |
| 07:53.15 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 07:53.17 | FISKER_Q | oh |
| 07:53.18 | FISKER_Q | evl |
| 07:53.19 | FISKER_Q | giev |
| 07:53.30 | evl | it was deleted :P |
| 07:53.38 | FISKER_Q | DONE!1 |
| 07:53.39 | FISKER_Q | bah evl |
| 07:53.44 | FISKER_Q | fail |
| 07:53.47 | Diao | :o |
| 07:53.50 | Diao | link!!! |
| 07:53.51 | Diao | lol |
| 07:54.22 | hyperChipmunk | heh, SuperNova Men's Club billboard |
| 07:54.34 | Diao | yup :P |
| 07:54.56 | FISKER_Q | http://youtube.com/watch?v=isbz7eXWEPM |
| 07:55.02 | FISKER_Q | up here when youtube stops failing |
| 07:55.05 | theoddone33 | I think the protoss are winning this |
| 07:55.07 | theoddone33 | I can't tell |
| 07:55.13 | Diao | kk |
| 07:56.29 | theoddone33 | that .flv was pretty awesome |
| 07:57.06 | theoddone33 | hah, I'm still logged into WoW and didn't realize it, no wonder youtube was sucking |
| 07:57.12 | FISKER_Q | http://youtube.com/watch?v=isbz7eXWEPM |
| 07:57.13 | FISKER_Q | there |
| 07:57.29 | FISKER_Q | look at the description btw |
| 07:57.29 | FISKER_Q | :D |
| 07:57.39 | FISKER_Q | "/r/ fap replys" |
| 07:57.41 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 07:58.47 | Diao | haha |
| 08:01.38 | kebinusan | http://www.shutupandpull.com/files/bcuirev2inc_199.jpg hmm I like this ui look |
| 08:01.59 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35841 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 08:01.59 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 08:01.59 | CIA-23 | - Be more forceful about disabling the blizzy castbar when that option is set, so other addons won't reenable it. |
| 08:02.17 | FISKER_Q | indeed kebinusan |
| 08:03.38 | FISKER_Q | there are a couple of movies more i'll download and start uploading |
| 08:03.41 | Cryect | That video looks like they were trying to copy the Supreme Commander trailer video partially |
| 08:04.17 | Cryect | else than the fights was a lot smaller and without all the epic camera cuts :-p |
| 08:04.44 | kebinusan | Anyone use SimpleMiniMap? I have this problem where the location text disappears all the time until I change a setting |
| 08:05.25 | Neebler | do you have fubar_locationfu? |
| 08:05.37 | Diao | lol |
| 08:05.56 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 08:08.02 | FISKER_Q | second gameplay movie being uploaded now |
| 08:08.47 | kebinusan | hmm locationfu was the problem it seems |
| 08:08.50 | kebinusan | interesting |
| 08:09.00 | hyperChipmunk | i really hope they have co-op missions...even if it's just shared unit control |
| 08:10.12 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/sc2-gameplay2.flv <-moar gameplay |
| 08:10.20 | FISKER_Q | still uploading to youtube :o |
| 08:10.21 | Diao | youtube again! <3 |
| 08:10.33 | hyperChipmunk | wtf would you want youtube |
| 08:10.45 | Diao | cause it's convenient for other people :P |
| 08:11.14 | hyperChipmunk | how is forcing you to watch it in a browser in any way convenient? O_o |
| 08:11.19 | FISKER_Q | not for me though :( |
| 08:11.26 | FISKER_Q | my upload sucks |
| 08:11.38 | FISKER_Q | and my server can't upload it in CLI :/ |
| 08:11.47 | theoddone33 | you're in .dk? |
| 08:11.50 | theoddone33 | cool |
| 08:11.59 | FISKER_Q | yarr |
| 08:12.05 | theoddone33 | send me some kringle :( |
| 08:12.36 | theoddone33 | and a mads mikkelson movie |
| 08:12.38 | Diao | it's more convenient for people who are too lazy to dl it |
| 08:12.47 | FISKER_Q | 60%!!1 |
| 08:12.48 | Diao | all my friends keep firefox open all the time >.> |
| 08:14.16 | theoddone33 | Racine claims to be the largest North American settlement of Danes outside of Greenland. Racine is particularly known for its Danish pastries, especially kringle. Several bakeries have been featured on Food Network. <-- I'm from there |
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| 08:15.05 | NimbleRabit | so my net went down |
| 08:15.07 | NimbleRabit | for like an hour |
| 08:15.10 | NimbleRabit | did they announce anything yet? |
| 08:15.28 | theoddone33 | diablo 3 |
| 08:15.30 | renchap | nothing, it was a joke |
| 08:15.31 | FISKER_Q | they did 2 hours ago :P |
| 08:15.47 | FISKER_Q | 90% :( |
| 08:15.59 | Diao | ;o |
| 08:16.15 | Diao | where's the mothership video! |
| 08:16.24 | Diao | or was that the first one |
| 08:16.27 | Diao | i wasn't paying attn |
| 08:16.38 | FISKER_Q | MOTHERFUCKING DONE :o |
| 08:16.51 | theoddone33 | tseric got fired |
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| 08:17.09 | NimbleRabit | ... |
| 08:18.00 | hyperChipmunk | FISKER_Q: you hoser; it stopped midfight |
| 08:18.02 | hyperChipmunk | i hate you |
| 08:18.03 | FISKER_Q | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNiCWQtU_s |
| 08:18.13 | FISKER_Q | what? :o |
| 08:18.22 | Diao | lol |
| 08:18.24 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:18.27 | Diao | it did stop midfight :P |
| 08:18.41 | Diao | there should be 1 more video according to the ign article too |
| 08:18.43 | Diao | i tihnk |
| 08:18.47 | Diao | maybe not |
| 08:19.00 | FISKER_Q | lol |
| 08:19.03 | FISKER_Q | it's several fights |
| 08:19.08 | FISKER_Q | i got the first part actually |
| 08:19.20 | FISKER_Q | which i'm uploading now |
| 08:19.24 | Diao | ahh |
| 08:20.55 | theoddone33 | those zealots are pretty cool |
| 08:21.01 | Diao | yeah lol |
| 08:21.03 | theoddone33 | pretty sure they got owned though |
| 08:22.11 | theoddone33 | they're a little too similar to ethereals heh |
| 08:23.21 | vhaarr | it's the other way around |
| 08:23.28 | vhaarr | ethereals are a little too similar to protoss |
| 08:23.35 | FISKER_Q | 20% of the second(first movie) :o |
| 08:23.42 | Diao | :o |
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| 08:24.47 | theoddone33 | I don't remember them warping around like that in SC |
| 08:24.51 | theoddone33 | but I haven't played it in way too long |
| 08:24.58 | kebinusan | they probably saved alot of development time recycling models |
| 08:25.05 | kebinusan | heh |
| 08:25.13 | Diao | warping around? |
| 08:25.19 | Diao | it's a new game feature |
| 08:25.25 | theoddone33 | no not the blinking thing |
| 08:25.41 | theoddone33 | their walk isn't a walk, it's more like the ethereal float |
| 08:25.46 | Nimble_Rabit | what are you guys watching |
| 08:25.47 | Nimble_Rabit | link? |
| 08:25.48 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/sc-gameplay2.flv <-first part of the youtube i just uploaded |
| 08:26.00 | Diao | vids that fisker uploaded |
| 08:26.02 | Diao | of sc2 gameplay |
| 08:26.15 | theoddone33 | I sure hope they don't ignore mac |
| 08:26.18 | hyperChipmunk | isn't that the same url? |
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| 08:26.28 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:26.35 | Diao | blizzard never ignores mac |
| 08:26.44 | theoddone33 | they haven't yet |
| 08:26.46 | theoddone33 | which is good |
| 08:27.18 | FISKER_Q | hyperChipmunk yup |
| 08:27.24 | Megalon | there is always a macversion if it's a blizzard game :> |
| 08:27.28 | FISKER_Q | but i renamed them so i could figure out the order myself later :) |
| 08:28.00 | hyperChipmunk | why didn't you just call it gameplay1? |
| 08:28.08 | Nimble_Rabit | man |
| 08:28.12 | Diao | lol |
| 08:28.14 | Nimble_Rabit | I wish I still liked rts games |
| 08:28.45 | FISKER_Q | a shame it's in korean |
| 08:28.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i should reinstall sc and play it |
| 08:29.18 | Nimble_Rabit | rts are 0 fun for me now |
| 08:29.18 | Megalon | still have sc and bw installed |
| 08:29.19 | Megalon | :o |
| 08:29.25 | Nimble_Rabit | other games ruined my mind |
| 08:29.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i havnt played it since.. uh.. since i pirated a beta version years ago |
| 08:30.21 | Nimble_Rabit | FISKER_Q: so when I go to that page my firefrox freezes, suggestions? |
| 08:31.04 | FISKER_Q | what page? |
| 08:31.45 | Nimble_Rabit | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/sc-gameplay2.flv |
| 08:31.52 | Diao | because your browser can't load it :P |
| 08:32.01 | Nimble_Rabit | yeah yeah I get that, how do I download it though |
| 08:32.02 | Nimble_Rabit | lol |
| 08:32.29 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/ |
| 08:32.32 | FISKER_Q | i got indexing turned on |
| 08:32.37 | Nimble_Rabit | oh ok |
| 08:32.49 | Megalon | For all who don't have a FLV player: http://sweb.cityu.edu.hk/50689882/browse2.html |
| 08:32.56 | Nimble_Rabit | sure you don't mind us wasting your bandwidth? |
| 08:33.04 | hyperChipmunk | ROFL |
| 08:33.07 | hyperChipmunk | the dancing nelf |
| 08:33.09 | Diao | you can just watch the youtube version? |
| 08:33.14 | FISKER_Q | as long it's only you i don't mind |
| 08:33.14 | Diao | or did you reupload it with another name |
| 08:33.17 | evl | ~seen kergoth |
| 08:33.45 | purl | kergoth is currently on #wowi-lounge #handhelds #oe #wowace #elinux. Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 2h 25m 58s, last said: 'i presume there's some windows equivalent'. |
| 08:33.45 | FISKER_Q | i'm almost done with the last movie |
| 08:33.45 | FISKER_Q | on youtube |
| 08:33.45 | Diao | kk |
| 08:34.59 | FISKER_Q | 10% left |
| 08:35.19 | Diao | ok |
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| 08:36.17 | theoddone33 | sc2.flv is the trailer? |
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| 08:36.22 | FISKER_Q | yes |
| 08:36.25 | theoddone33 | k |
| 08:36.46 | FISKER_Q | done with the other movie |
| 08:38.11 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35842 10Quartz/ (TradeskillMerge/ filelist.wau quartzlod.bat quartzlod.sh): |
| 08:38.11 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 08:38.11 | CIA-23 | - Delete tricks to kill old _TradeskillMerge directories, most people's should be toast by now. |
| 08:38.29 | FISKER_Q | http://eu.starcraft2.com/ |
| 08:38.29 | FISKER_Q | btw |
| 08:38.44 | FISKER_Q | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i29BOYwzfrs <-fisrt part of the second gameplay video |
| 08:38.49 | Nimble_Rabit | jesus christ I just almost blew out my headphones on that video |
| 08:38.59 | FISKER_Q | and the intro is uploaded there |
| 08:40.40 | hyperChipmunk | gimme the rest of that, punk |
| 08:40.56 | hyperChipmunk | i wanna know what happens to the phoenixes! |
| 08:41.50 | FISKER_Q | the koreans haven't uploaded anything else |
| 08:41.52 | FISKER_Q | yet |
| 08:41.52 | Nimble_Rabit | the nukes are SO SEXY |
| 08:42.02 | hyperChipmunk | invade them |
| 08:42.45 | hyperChipmunk | they better get owned by wraiths |
| 08:42.54 | hyperChipmunk | wtb more terran love |
| 08:43.12 | Megalon | :O |
| 08:43.16 | hyperChipmunk | or even better, science vessels |
| 08:43.25 | hyperChipmunk | god i loved those thigs |
| 08:44.01 | Arrowmaster | =( |
| 08:44.17 | nymbia | starcraft2.com |
| 08:44.18 | nymbia | ;) |
| 08:44.23 | hyperChipmunk | i sucked at the game, but when we played at LAN parties, i just built a fleet of them |
| 08:44.23 | Arrowmaster | i started up starcraft and it crashed loading my old gamesave |
| 08:44.45 | Arrowmaster | hehe i once had 36 battlecrusiers |
| 08:44.46 | hyperChipmunk | and just pissed off the other team the whole game |
| 08:45.01 | Megalon | i think we may have a gas leak! |
| 08:45.12 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 08:45.24 | hyperChipmunk | Who let out all these monkeys! |
| 08:45.39 | Megalon | we have you on visual. |
| 08:46.04 | nymbia | wow, that's disappointing |
| 08:46.21 | nymbia | the thing that had everyone cheering? 'ACTIVE' |
| 08:46.29 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:48.04 | FISKER_Q | OLD NEWS nymbia |
| 08:48.15 | nymbia | SHUSH YOU |
| 08:48.38 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (n=Cartas@host81-129-232-2.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:48.39 | FISKER_Q | *fap @ HD though* |
| 08:48.54 | Diao | well |
| 08:49.02 | Diao | it's more like "active service" :p |
| 08:49.14 | Diao | and the thing at the end is like "what you've been waiting for has finally come" or something |
| 08:49.23 | nymbia | it's about time |
| 08:49.44 | nymbia | Diao: that's what it says in the english version, anyway. |
| 08:49.49 | hyperChipmunk | Will there be a console version of StarCraft II? |
| 08:49.50 | hyperChipmunk | StarCraft II is being developed for the PC. We have no current plans to bring the game to any console platform. |
| 08:49.56 | hyperChipmunk | F U xbox |
| 08:50.12 | nymbia | god the console version of the original was bad |
| 08:50.40 | Diao | ah |
| 08:50.50 | hyperChipmunk | Will StarCraft II be available on Mac simultaneously with PC? |
| 08:50.50 | hyperChipmunk | As with all of Blizzard's recent releases, StarCraft II will ship on both PC and Mac simultaneously. |
| 08:50.50 | FISKER_Q | part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i29BOYwzfrs |
| 08:50.54 | FISKER_Q | part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNiCWQtU_s |
| 08:51.03 | NightHawkTheSane | heh. "recent releases" |
| 08:51.15 | NightHawkTheSane | i think they only started simultaneous releases with wc3 |
| 08:51.44 | Nimble_Rabit | the "immortals" are such a cool unit |
| 08:51.57 | Diao | i wonder |
| 08:51.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah the concept is great |
| 08:52.01 | Diao | if they'll have collector's edition |
| 08:52.03 | Diao | i'm so buying it |
| 08:52.04 | Diao | if there is |
| 08:52.19 | nymbia | i'm sure there will be |
| 08:52.21 | Arrowmaster | theyll wtfpwn heavy assult stuff but be weak to light assult |
| 08:52.27 | Nimble_Rabit | the concept of immortals is just awesome |
| 08:52.28 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, phalamx > immortals. |
| 08:52.31 | NightHawkTheSane | er, phalanx |
| 08:52.33 | FISKER_Q | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:52.33 | FISKER_Q | [View: main] |
| 08:52.33 | FISKER_Q | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:52.36 | FISKER_Q | Go rtorrent |
| 08:52.39 | FISKER_Q | it's your birthday |
| 08:52.44 | FISKER_Q | or something |
| 08:52.47 | hyperChipmunk | already got it =) |
| 08:52.49 | Diao | stalkers |
| 08:52.50 | Diao | look awesome |
| 08:52.52 | FISKER_Q | same |
| 08:52.57 | FISKER_Q | but my webserver needs it |
| 08:53.00 | Arrowmaster | linky me to torrents pls |
| 08:53.07 | Diao | www.starcraft2.com |
| 08:53.09 | Diao | go to movies |
| 08:53.12 | Diao | they're right there :P |
| 08:53.29 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/ <-don't mind the name ;D |
| 08:53.42 | FISKER_Q | wowtorrentex checks for "wow-<something>-downloader.exe" :P |
| 08:54.04 | Arrowmaster | oh those exe's are embeded bittorrent downloaders? |
| 08:54.09 | Megalon | yes |
| 08:54.10 | krka | anyone want to share the videos in avi? dont want to wine-install them |
| 08:54.12 | Megalon | i think |
| 08:54.36 | vhaarr | yes they are |
| 08:54.39 | FISKER_Q | my webserver is downloading the movie |
| 08:54.45 | FISKER_Q | i'll tell you when it's done |
| 08:54.45 | Diao | they're in divx |
| 08:54.46 | Diao | i thikn |
| 08:55.00 | FISKER_Q | NOOOOOO |
| 08:55.01 | Megalon | Arrowmaster: open the file, find 'd8:announce51:' there starts the torrent |
| 08:55.06 | theoddone33 | the please check back tomorrow for gameplay movie is ... a lie? |
| 08:55.08 | FISKER_Q | The text on the monitor was "--- ACTIVE ---" |
| 08:55.13 | FISKER_Q | How the hell can they cheer for that? |
| 08:55.14 | Megalon | Arrowmaster: you can cut that part out and save it as a normal torrent |
| 08:55.16 | Arrowmaster | i just got the torrent from fisker's site |
| 08:55.21 | FISKER_Q | AHAHA |
| 08:55.24 | Megalon | ah kk :) |
| 08:55.28 | FISKER_Q | he has "PAIN" tatooed on his hand |
| 08:55.30 | FISKER_Q | the marine |
| 08:55.39 | Megalon | no pain, no gain |
| 08:55.40 | Megalon | :( |
| 08:55.50 | theoddone33 | isn't that raynor? |
| 08:55.51 | Arrowmaster | i want the gameplay trailer to come out |
| 08:55.57 | Nimble_Rabit | zerg look cool now |
| 08:56.00 | hyperChipmunk | there's some gameplay in the art trailer |
| 08:56.13 | evl | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.56 | hyperChipmunk | kerrigan is looking extra-segzy |
| 08:57.04 | Nimble_Rabit | immortal = anti big units, weak to small units. Collosus = anti small units |
| 08:57.08 | Nimble_Rabit | cool new synergies going on |
| 08:57.41 | hyperChipmunk | i thought the holo-nelf doodad with wow animation was pretty funny |
| 08:57.47 | FISKER_Q | MOAR |
| 08:57.59 | Nimble_Rabit | I also love how terrain matters now |
| 08:58.05 | theoddone33 | anyone want me to upload the art trailer torrent? |
| 08:58.08 | Diao | only for certain units haha |
| 08:58.12 | Diao | like the colossus |
| 08:58.15 | Nimble_Rabit | still |
| 08:58.17 | Nimble_Rabit | very cool |
| 08:58.19 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:58.34 | Arrowmaster | FISKER_Q: linky torrent for arit trailer |
| 08:58.41 | FISKER_Q | arit? |
| 08:58.47 | Arrowmaster | art |
| 08:58.56 | hyperChipmunk | http://starcraft2.com/movies/artwork_trailer/StarCraft2ArtworkTrailerUS-avi-downloader.exe |
| 08:59.06 | hyperChipmunk | has quite a bit of gameplay in it |
| 08:59.08 | FISKER_Q | alriiiight |
| 08:59.35 | hyperChipmunk | battle scenes mixed in with the stills |
| 08:59.51 | theoddone33 | sweet I love stills |
| 08:59.52 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r35843 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-koKR.lua: |
| 08:59.52 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 08:59.52 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 09:00.02 | FISKER_Q | uploaded now |
| 09:00.53 | Nimble_Rabit | oh god I have to use blizzard downloader |
| 09:00.55 | Nimble_Rabit | I hate that thing |
| 09:01.04 | Nimble_Rabit | why can't they use normal torrents |
| 09:01.29 | Megalon | can't you extract the torrent? or are other clients blocked in a way? |
| 09:01.39 | nymbia | yeah you can extract it |
| 09:01.44 | FISKER_Q | i already extracted it |
| 09:01.48 | Arrowmaster | fisker posted the torrents up on his site |
| 09:01.50 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/ |
| 09:01.53 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r35844 10FuBar_LootTypeFu/LootTypeFu.lua: FuBar_LootTypeFu: Fix concatenate nil error |
| 09:01.59 | FISKER_Q | sc-trailer and sc-art-trailer |
| 09:01.59 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=NEXT96@121.129.140.61) |
| 09:02.00 | Nimble_Rabit | pj |
| 09:02.01 | Nimble_Rabit | oh |
| 09:02.02 | Nimble_Rabit | goody |
| 09:02.04 | FISKER_Q | btw the movies aren't complete |
| 09:02.06 | FISKER_Q | so don't bother |
| 09:02.13 | Megalon | yea, then you don't have to use the blizzard one :o |
| 09:02.16 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 09:02.24 | FISKER_Q | the ones on my site |
| 09:02.29 | FISKER_Q | if you figured you'd get it instead :D |
| 09:02.29 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 09:02.36 | FISKER_Q | well the intro just finished |
| 09:02.44 | Nimble_Rabit | haha I thought about it =P |
| 09:02.47 | vhaarr | bah why didn't you say that |
| 09:02.49 | vhaarr | :P |
| 09:02.57 | vhaarr | <FISKER_Q> i already extracted it |
| 09:03.00 | vhaarr | <FISKER_Q> http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/ |
| 09:03.05 | vhaarr | makes me think they're complete |
| 09:03.14 | Nimble_Rabit | what is scv2.flv |
| 09:03.17 | FISKER_Q | View: main] |
| 09:03.17 | FISKER_Q | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:03.17 | FISKER_Q | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:03.19 | Arrowmaster | was talking about the .torrents |
| 09:03.24 | Nimble_Rabit | sc2.flv* |
| 09:03.24 | FISKER_Q | the trailer Nimble_Rabit |
| 09:03.30 | FISKER_Q | the low-quality one that is |
| 09:03.35 | FISKER_Q | from the WWI itself |
| 09:03.46 | vhaarr | scream when the torrents are done plx |
| 09:04.12 | Nimble_Rabit | haha I start the torrent |
| 09:04.14 | Nimble_Rabit | seeds (1) |
| 09:04.15 | Nimble_Rabit | T_T |
| 09:04.55 | Arrowmaster | blizzards tracker doesnt give feedback as to how many total seeds/peers |
| 09:05.06 | Diao | er |
| 09:05.08 | *** join/#wowace nahkiss (i=nahkiss@dsl-hkigw7-fed8dc00-135.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 09:05.15 | Arrowmaster | although i see 1 seed too |
| 09:05.17 | Diao | it does if you use the blizz dler? |
| 09:05.31 | Nimble_Rabit | FISKER_Q: how did you extract the .torrent file |
| 09:05.45 | FISKER_Q | wowtorrentex |
| 09:05.47 | Arrowmaster | wowtorrentex |
| 09:05.50 | Megalon | Nimble_Rabit: it's attached at the end of the file |
| 09:05.52 | FISKER_Q | done with both movies now vhaarr |
| 09:05.55 | vhaarr | sweet |
| 09:05.57 | renchap | the .torrent should be in the mac downloader |
| 09:06.17 | *** join/#wowace Andalia (i=xx@p54aca444.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:06.24 | hyperChipmunk | <3 the details in the cinematic trailer |
| 09:06.27 | Megalon | Nimble_Rabit: you can extract it yourself with any hexeditor very easily |
| 09:06.40 | Diao | i really really wish |
| 09:06.44 | Diao | blizzard would make the wow movie cgi |
| 09:06.45 | Diao | :( |
| 09:07.00 | FISKER_Q | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.00 | FISKER_Q | ¦ 1269.4 packets/sec |
| 09:07.02 | *** join/#wowace Necrathex (n=necra@82-171-43-202.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 09:07.03 | FISKER_Q | MOAR |
| 09:07.12 | Nimble_Rabit | Megalon: I have a feeling "easy" for you and me mean very differant things |
| 09:07.15 | FISKER_Q | only 15mbit/s |
| 09:07.17 | FISKER_Q | you can do it |
| 09:07.38 | FISKER_Q | already used more than 1GB the last 2 hours |
| 09:07.41 | vhaarr | Diao: but then we wouldn't get to see stalone or something play an orc |
| 09:07.45 | FISKER_Q | it's not enough :( |
| 09:07.46 | Diao | lol |
| 09:07.57 | Diao | their cgi is so much better than any live action could be :( |
| 09:08.05 | vhaarr | nah |
| 09:08.13 | Arrowmaster | only getting 400kb/s need moar |
| 09:08.17 | Nimble_Rabit | FISKER_Q: watch as your provider shuts you down now |
| 09:08.22 | FISKER_Q | haha |
| 09:08.25 | vhaarr | just get peter jackson to make it! |
| 09:08.26 | FISKER_Q | i got 1TB transfer on this |
| 09:08.35 | FISKER_Q | each month |
| 09:08.38 | Nimble_Rabit | wow |
| 09:09.06 | FISKER_Q | though i'm just gonna dump my database |
| 09:09.11 | FISKER_Q | in case you kill my server :P |
| 09:09.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:09.44 | vhaarr | hell I linked your site on the wow forums already |
| 09:09.48 | Nimble_Rabit | lol |
| 09:09.48 | vhaarr | #care |
| 09:09.49 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 09:09.50 | Megalon | blizzard cgi movies are the best :< |
| 09:09.56 | Megalon | vhaarr: hrhr :D |
| 09:09.57 | hyperChipmunk | SUCK IT DOWN |
| 09:09.58 | vhaarr | :P |
| 09:09.59 | FISKER_Q | nooooo:( |
| 09:10.03 | hyperChipmunk | on the marine suit |
| 09:10.16 | Megalon | well, you'll exceed 1TB this month FISKER_Q :P |
| 09:11.00 | nevcairiel | is there any stickyframes library out there, or do i have to write that myself now ? :P |
| 09:11.12 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: sec |
| 09:11.32 | nevcairiel | i feel like finally working on that |
| 09:11.38 | vhaarr | thank you |
| 09:11.47 | mjc_ | dun want no itty weeny teenie weenie shriveled little short dick man |
| 09:11.49 | vhaarr | ah there it is |
| 09:11.55 | FISKER_Q | Megalon well technically i can request an unlimited amount of bandwitdh upgrades |
| 09:11.57 | FISKER_Q | for free |
| 09:12.07 | Nimble_Rabit | hmm why is my computer lagging while trying to play this video... |
| 09:12.09 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: for some reason I can't copy/paste from/to my IRC client, but you find it by searching for "stickyframes" on wowinterface |
| 09:12.20 | nevcairiel | clads old thingy? |
| 09:12.20 | FISKER_Q | they don't care about my bandwitdh as long as i'm not doing irc bouncing or illegal stuff |
| 09:12.22 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: and I'm pretty sure there's a more recent acelibrary impl on the SVN, actually |
| 09:12.23 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yes |
| 09:12.23 | nevcairiel | wonder if it still works |
| 09:12.33 | vhaarr | but I don't remember what the svn one is called |
| 09:12.35 | wobin | fairly sure it does |
| 09:12.43 | wobin | The concept was simple enough |
| 09:12.45 | nevcairiel | lemme try clads version |
| 09:13.02 | *** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:13.54 | Punkie` | Hey peeps |
| 09:14.02 | Diao | hey |
| 09:14.27 | FISKER_Q | i gotta see those movies now though |
| 09:14.32 | theoddone33 | I don't think I've seen the tarren win yet in any of this gameplay footage |
| 09:14.41 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i know =\ |
| 09:14.42 | FISKER_Q | all that youtube uploading and fapping made me forget to watch most of them |
| 09:14.43 | Punkie` | FISKER_Q: omg you missed it last night! |
| 09:14.47 | Diao | lol |
| 09:14.55 | Diao | it's probably because |
| 09:14.59 | Diao | the protoss are the only completed race |
| 09:15.03 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 09:15.04 | Diao | so they own everything atm ;p |
| 09:15.08 | Diao | like if you go to sc2.com |
| 09:15.09 | Nimble_Rabit | anyone else think photon cannons look dumb in the art trailer |
| 09:15.10 | FISKER_Q | come on guys |
| 09:15.14 | Diao | only the protoss section is up |
| 09:15.17 | FISKER_Q | only 15Mbit/s a second |
| 09:15.18 | FISKER_Q | MOAR |
| 09:15.40 | hyperChipmunk | put up the conclusion of the gameplay trailer, ho |
| 09:15.52 | FISKER_Q | alright i'll look for it again |
| 09:15.52 | FISKER_Q | ho |
| 09:15.56 | hyperChipmunk | this is like friggin Christmas |
| 09:16.12 | FISKER_Q | better |
| 09:16.20 | hyperChipmunk | it's quarter after 5 am, i'm wide awake, and i'm too excited to go to bed |
| 09:16.21 | Nimble_Rabit | much better |
| 09:16.32 | NightHawkTheSane | no, better will be when the game is released |
| 09:16.37 | Nimble_Rabit | jesus I should have gotten the cinematic trailer from fisker's site |
| 09:16.38 | Nimble_Rabit | the torrent sucks |
| 09:16.38 | Arrowmaster | the zerg looks fucking sweet in the art trailer |
| 09:16.44 | hyperChipmunk | god |
| 09:16.48 | FISKER_Q | 2,25GB traffic now |
| 09:17.05 | hyperChipmunk | what's the over/under on dead koreans the first weekend? O_o |
| 09:17.28 | FISKER_Q | you guys think you're bad enough to kill my server? |
| 09:17.46 | Nimble_Rabit | maybe |
| 09:17.50 | renchap | FISKER_Q: i have 3 serveurs with 100mbit connection |
| 09:17.53 | renchap | should i try ? |
| 09:18.15 | Nimble_Rabit | FISKER_Q: need conclusion to gameplay trailer =P |
| 09:18.19 | FISKER_Q | please don't rape me :(! |
| 09:18.30 | renchap | btw i can mirror |
| 09:18.31 | FISKER_Q | i'm only 13! |
| 09:19.34 | Cheads | uhmm an addon for easier managing enchants? is there such one? |
| 09:19.46 | NimbleRabit | What do you mean |
| 09:20.08 | Cheads | sorting or them |
| 09:20.11 | *** join/#wowace Vangual (n=bah@84-72-114-69.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 09:20.21 | Megalon | cgcrafty? it let you search |
| 09:20.27 | Cheads | ie. for the different item slots |
| 09:20.40 | Cheads | so you can easy see which enchants you have for bracers etc. |
| 09:20.43 | NimbleRabit | manufac |
| 09:20.45 | NimbleRabit | probably does that |
| 09:21.33 | renchap | FISKER_Q: (2.79 MB/s) - `StarCraft2CinematicTrailer_EnglishUS.avi' saved |
| 09:21.35 | renchap | not bad |
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| 09:22.03 | hyperChipmunk | the zealot voice acting is weak =\ |
| 09:22.36 | renchap | http://files-wowace.renchap.com/Starcraft2/StarCraft2CinematicTrailer_EnglishUS.avi and http://files-wowace.renchap.com/Starcraft2/StarCraft2ArtworkTrailerUS.avi |
| 09:24.19 | FISKER_Q | yeah my server is actually 100Mbit but it's usually peaks around 6-7MB/s |
| 09:24.30 | Punkie` | wtb faster download speed than 230KB/s :< |
| 09:25.08 | NimbleRabit | I only got about 50 avg with the torrent |
| 09:25.09 | NimbleRabit | T_T |
| 09:25.18 | FISKER_Q | you could just download from my server :P |
| 09:25.19 | FISKER_Q | or renchaps |
| 09:25.25 | NimbleRabit | I would if I didn't jsut finish |
| 09:25.25 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 09:25.29 | NimbleRabit | I started before yours was done |
| 09:25.34 | grzesieq | any idea why would chatframe font change after mods update? |
| 09:25.39 | NimbleRabit | prat |
| 09:25.42 | FISKER_Q | gotta take that shit now :P |
| 09:25.43 | renchap | grzesieq: prat |
| 09:25.44 | FISKER_Q | brb' |
| 09:25.44 | NimbleRabit | there is a FontSize module |
| 09:26.19 | grzesieq | -.- |
| 09:26.34 | NimbleRabit | just go change the fontsize in that module or disable it =P |
| 09:26.47 | grzesieq | why put font face setting in the font size module? :o |
| 09:27.08 | NimbleRabit | oh font Type changed? |
| 09:27.21 | NimbleRabit | that might be clearfont |
| 09:27.40 | grzesieq | no |
| 09:27.43 | grzesieq | it was prat |
| 09:27.51 | NimbleRabit | k lol |
| 09:27.54 | Megalon | yea, prat |
| 09:27.55 | NimbleRabit | chat problems after updates |
| 09:27.58 | NimbleRabit | are almost always prat |
| 09:28.01 | Megalon | no clue, was like 3 days ago |
| 09:28.04 | Megalon | when i updated |
| 09:28.13 | Megalon | logged in, chatfont changed >.< |
| 09:28.14 | NimbleRabit | prat just constantly breaks stuff on update |
| 09:28.23 | Punkie` | people still use prat? |
| 09:28.35 | NimbleRabit | nothing else.. |
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| 09:31.40 | Cheads | really like prat, havent had many problems with it really |
| 09:32.21 | NimbleRabit | man |
| 09:32.27 | NimbleRabit | I'll have to say, that cinematic was dissapointing |
| 09:33.12 | Arrowmaster | it looked cool |
| 09:33.20 | FISKER_Q | wasn't there something about they said their next RTS would have 4 races btw? |
| 09:33.21 | NimbleRabit | yeah |
| 09:33.25 | NimbleRabit | but it wasn't "awesome" |
| 09:33.33 | Bruners | is there something wrong with prat? |
| 09:33.45 | nymbia | FISKER_Q: nobody has said it won't be ;) |
| 09:33.49 | NimbleRabit | no not really |
| 09:33.54 | FISKER_Q | exactly my idea :P |
| 09:33.58 | NimbleRabit | it just has the tendency to sometimes mess things up on update |
| 09:34.02 | FISKER_Q | then sometime later they'll show the 4th race |
| 09:34.06 | FISKER_Q | (probably xel'naga) |
| 09:34.09 | renchap | remember what world of warcraft was when it get announced... i think they have many cool things not released :) |
| 09:34.15 | Megalon | (probably murlocs) |
| 09:34.15 | FISKER_Q | it will be even more awesome than this day |
| 09:34.17 | Diao | nah nymbia |
| 09:34.20 | hyperChipmunk | actually, if you read the faq |
| 09:34.24 | hyperChipmunk | it's only the three |
| 09:34.28 | Diao | from sc2.com |
| 09:34.30 | hyperChipmunk | and that's really all there needs to be |
| 09:34.33 | Diao | Three completely distinct races: Protoss, Terran, and Zerg |
| 09:34.36 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:34.38 | Diao | 3 is balanced nicely |
| 09:34.47 | hyperChipmunk | the three-race dynamic is what made SC great |
| 09:35.12 | FISKER_Q | ah the whole hybrid race had potential |
| 09:35.20 | Bruners | protos was kinda easy to win with if both players are newbies |
| 09:35.24 | FISKER_Q | but it's understandable that they won't keep it playable atleast |
| 09:36.52 | FISKER_Q | protoss are awesome already |
| 09:37.21 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r35845 10Bartender3/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Bartender3: added basic stickyframes support, that still needs tuning when to snap and where to snap, but it works (tm) ( you can toggle it off in the options ) |
| 09:37.42 | Bruners | stickyframes? |
| 09:38.07 | Cheads | manufac seems very nice, thanks for the info |
| 09:38.11 | NimbleRabit | the FAQ is actually painful to read |
| 09:38.16 | NimbleRabit | Cheads: no problem |
| 09:39.03 | FISKER_Q | to be honest it's insane they don't already got a pretty good idea of when it will be out |
| 09:39.18 | FISKER_Q | Unless they're still missing units and so on they could basically release it now and balance it along the way :P |
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| 09:39.23 | Gnarfoz | so can wau 1.8 figure out by X-Embeds which libs to get? or why are ppl removing Libs from OptDeps? |
| 09:39.25 | sedatedChipmunk | you're clearly new to blizzard |
| 09:39.26 | Punkie` | FISKER_Q: I made my first addon and committed it last night, you are so jealous! |
| 09:39.54 | sedatedChipmunk | and honestly, i didn't see about 90% of the core units yet |
| 09:39.55 | FISKER_Q | nahuh |
| 09:40.04 | sedatedChipmunk | just looked like they were showing off the new ones |
| 09:40.09 | nymbia | FISKER_Q: i'm sure they have a very good idea, but if they say it then have to push it back, they'll have whiners on their hands. |
| 09:40.11 | FISKER_Q | true |
| 09:40.14 | NimbleRabit | Punkie`: go takeup my addon request and make your second =P |
| 09:40.16 | FISKER_Q | of course nymbia :P |
| 09:40.48 | sedatedChipmunk | i personally can't wait to see what kind of visuals they put out for firebats |
| 09:40.57 | nymbia | that'll be hot. |
| 09:41.07 | FISKER_Q | we gotta get some guys to get us in the beta |
| 09:41.09 | sedatedChipmunk | *smack* |
| 09:41.12 | FISKER_Q | i wanna fap to that all night |
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| 09:41.20 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel 072.1 * r35846 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (14 files in 3 dirs): Bartender3: merging changes into 2.1 branche |
| 09:41.32 | Bruners | why cant there be a ssh-client for windows with transparent backgroud? |
| 09:41.48 | Bruners | *hates it* |
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| 09:42.33 | sedatedChipmunk | *pssh* ahh, that's the stuff |
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| 09:42.37 | sedatedChipmunk | night guys |
| 09:42.38 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: branch? |
| 09:42.40 | NimbleRabit | night |
| 09:42.42 | vhaarr | nn |
| 09:42.54 | Bruners | nn |
| 09:43.11 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: using 2.1 state stack thing |
| 09:43.29 | NimbleRabit | he is talking about your spelling "branche" I believe |
| 09:43.36 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 09:43.38 | nevcairiel | whatever |
| 09:43.42 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 09:43.47 | nymbia | i'll branche you! |
| 09:43.53 | vhaarr | ah |
| 09:44.01 | vhaarr | lol |
| 09:44.03 | FISKER_Q | i'm so gonna play SC2 tonight |
| 09:44.11 | Sole | wth fisker |
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| 09:44.16 | Sole | the beta is out? |
| 09:44.26 | Adirelle | hi there |
| 09:44.36 | Adirelle | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 09:45.19 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'hahaha ar3mis'. |
| 09:45.19 | FISKER_Q | no i mean in my dreams |
| 09:45.19 | Megalon | :D |
| 09:45.30 | Adirelle | thx purl |
| 09:45.32 | nymbia | purl, you suck |
| 09:45.46 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 09:45.54 | Adirelle | ... |
| 09:45.55 | Adirelle | well |
| 09:46.05 | Punkie` | Adirelle: ammo is away this weekend :) |
| 09:46.10 | vhaarr | Adirelle: maybe someone else can help. |
| 09:46.31 | Adirelle | yep, Nymbia could, I think, as a co-author of Violation |
| 09:46.43 | vhaarr | I'm actually the author |
| 09:46.47 | vhaarr | nymbia is not |
| 09:46.52 | Adirelle | doh |
| 09:47.01 | Adirelle | sry |
| 09:47.31 | Adirelle | have you planned things like group/raid/output, Ã la SWStats & co ? |
| 09:47.35 | vhaarr | yes |
| 09:47.54 | Adirelle | okay, and more modules ? |
| 09:48.34 | vhaarr | yeah I know people want crit rates, etc, so it'll probably be added at some point |
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| 09:48.54 | Adirelle | I hesitate to write additional modules in a separate addons |
| 09:49.18 | Punkie` | Does anyone know if there is a noticable difference in memory/fps when using MSBT over SCT? :) |
| 09:49.22 | vhaarr | why? |
| 09:49.44 | Cartas | MSBT looks better, that's all that matters! |
| 09:49.50 | Adirelle | why separate ? only because I'm not the main author of Violation, I wouldn't add something you don't want to be into it |
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| 09:50.04 | vhaarr | Adirelle: No, why do you hesitate? |
| 09:50.08 | vhaarr | I welcome you to do it. |
| 09:50.25 | vhaarr | that's why I added a moduleVersion flag |
| 09:50.29 | ckknight | 28 Weeks Later was cool. |
| 09:50.30 | Punkie` | Cartas: they only look as good due to the time you spend configuring it! |
| 09:50.32 | nymbia | Punkie`: i havent done profiling comparisons, but msbt feels a lot more solidly written |
| 09:50.39 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit whats up? |
| 09:50.41 | Cartas | I didn't spend much time configuring MSBT. |
| 09:50.46 | Cartas | It's pretty much done from the start :) |
| 09:50.50 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: latest reply ever |
| 09:50.51 | Punkie` | ok :) |
| 09:51.20 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: I figured it out though. I couldn't for the life of me get certain mods /prat commands to work for like 15 minutes |
| 09:51.28 | Punkie` | vhaarr: can I make a button for a reset and place it to the left of the [x] button on the gui? *hides* |
| 09:51.45 | vhaarr | Punkie`: lol |
| 09:51.52 | vhaarr | Punkie`: you can click the damn fubar plugin :P |
| 09:51.52 | Adirelle | btw, how does the module versionning work ? I felt it was to prevent different version of a module exchanging data |
| 09:52.00 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: I did some formatting and stuff on the Modules page but stopped partway through because I didn't really know if I that's what you wanted me to work on |
| 09:52.04 | vhaarr | Adirelle: yeah it does that now, but that will be fixed |
| 09:52.05 | Adirelle | but if I increment a module version, it isn't loaded |
| 09:52.08 | art3mis | heh blizzard has the best slogan for sc2 evah |
| 09:52.32 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit yeah, anything that you can add to make it make sense to people is great |
| 09:52.35 | Punkie` | vhaarr: haha, I need to learn 2 read the tooltips :D |
| 09:52.52 | vhaarr | Adirelle: right |
| 09:53.03 | Adirelle | another interesting thing would be displaying merged pet+master data, but I feel this will be *very* tricky to implement |
| 09:53.04 | vhaarr | Adirelle: that's why I welcome you to start creating all the modules you want |
| 09:53.15 | vhaarr | Adirelle: as soon as the API changes, your module won't load any more until you update it |
| 09:53.21 | Adirelle | ah okay |
| 09:53.26 | FISKER_Q | You must do additional fapping |
| 09:53.34 | FISKER_Q | i mean construct additional pylons* |
| 09:53.34 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit tooks great so far |
| 09:53.35 | FISKER_Q | my bad |
| 09:53.39 | evl | MUST ADDITIONAL FAPPING |
| 09:53.40 | Punkie` | nymbia: the only reason I was asking was that Ammo was like, 'fucking sct lag' when we were outside karazhan, but switched to MSBT and apparently it was fine |
| 09:53.45 | Punkie` | evl! |
| 09:53.52 | Punkie` | wanna play with my addon?! |
| 09:53.53 | evl | woot woot |
| 09:53.59 | evl | What does it do |
| 09:54.16 | evl | stream SC2 trailer into wow so you can fappety fap fap? |
| 09:54.20 | Punkie` | it has 4 numbers in rows |
| 09:54.32 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: I had fun going through the modules actually. I didn't even know about that Alias one before but I love it now |
| 09:54.32 | Punkie` | and tells you how many ticks of energy you need before it hits that number of energy |
| 09:54.45 | sylvanaar | yeah, they do alot of things |
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| 09:54.52 | rronkiv | Hello |
| 09:54.55 | rronkiv | anyone around? |
| 09:55.00 | Punkie` | nope |
| 09:55.06 | evl | sounds wierd. what's the advantage over t567u6h *ALERT* INCOMING ASS: http://orz.4chan.org/hr/src/1179519436091.jpg |
| 09:55.12 | evl | Punkie`: I use kEnergy now |
| 09:55.18 | [dRaCo] | I wonder when ppl will learn not to ask that question |
| 09:55.23 | vhaarr | never |
| 09:55.27 | Punkie` | evl: it isn't an energy ticker |
| 09:55.38 | rronkiv | ok, im using the standard blizzard action bars, is there anyway to insted of having the bottom left and right (above the griffon action bar) can i make two on the right side, like the left ones blizzard adds? |
| 09:56.01 | [dRaCo] | not using the blizz bars |
| 09:56.18 | rronkiv | whats the most (idiot friendly) useful addon to do this? |
| 09:56.24 | Punkie` | Bartender3? :) |
| 09:56.31 | [dRaCo] | imo that'd be bartender, yeah |
| 09:56.39 | Cartas | Flexbar. |
| 09:56.41 | Cartas | Obviously. |
| 09:56.52 | Punkie` | nono, infinibar! |
| 09:56.54 | vhaarr | visor2? |
| 09:56.57 | Cartas | lol |
| 09:57.09 | vhaarr | linux ed |
| 09:57.10 | vhaarr | imo |
| 09:57.24 | art3mis | is that like special ed? |
| 09:58.37 | Punkie` | evl: take a peek, TickTo on SVN ^^ |
| 09:58.58 | rronkiv | is there a command to open a config window for bartender3? |
| 09:59.53 | rronkiv | i still want to be able to have the griffion interface as well LOL |
| 10:00.01 | Punkie` | there should be a thing on the minimap |
| 10:00.06 | vhaarr | unpossible! |
| 10:00.44 | Cartas | Griffon interface? |
| 10:00.45 | Cartas | Why? |
| 10:01.15 | rronkiv | i have a reason :P |
| 10:01.15 | rronkiv | lol, |
| 10:01.20 | art3mis | vhaar are the greetist? shall you leave earth for no raison? |
| 10:01.30 | rronkiv | ne who.. is it possible to still get the standard blizzard ui while using bartender for 4 extra action bars? |
| 10:01.32 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: one thing I can't figure out is why is there a ChatLangButton module when ChatButtons can do the exact same thing |
| 10:01.55 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit Prat is a collective work - someone made that and added it |
| 10:02.15 | evl | Punkie`: will check ut |
| 10:02.16 | evl | it |
| 10:02.26 | NimbleRabit | ahh |
| 10:02.42 | NimbleRabit | hmm, should I put who created each module onto the page? |
| 10:02.45 | vhaarr | art3mis: why would I leave earth without getting a raisin? |
| 10:02.51 | vhaarr | I demand one! |
| 10:02.53 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit in earlier days, i encouraged that type of contribution - now i tell them to make external mods |
| 10:03.04 | art3mis | cuz you am the big brain are are the greetist |
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| 10:03.09 | rronkiv | i think i got it :P |
| 10:03.29 | vhaarr | art3mis: is this because I kicked you 4 months ago? |
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| 10:03.39 | art3mis | you did? |
| 10:03.46 | art3mis | mind like a steel trap that one |
| 10:03.48 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit yeah - most of the modules list thier orignial author and derivation, so its good to list it. |
| 10:03.49 | rronkiv | errr |
| 10:03.58 | art3mis | mines more like a siv |
| 10:04.08 | vhaarr | think it was you |
| 10:04.11 | rronkiv | there isnt a way to use bartender3 and the regular interface at all? |
| 10:04.29 | art3mis | would you like to kick me now so that itll make more sense in 4 months when we have this conversation again? |
| 10:04.32 | NimbleRabit | the regular interface sucks T_T |
| 10:04.44 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r35847 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Bartender3: StickyFrames: Snap-to distance now uses the Padding for a cleaner layout |
| 10:04.45 | Diao | what's the point of having bartender |
| 10:04.49 | Diao | and using the default UI? |
| 10:05.02 | *** kick/#wowace [art3mis!n=folk@ghybel696.krs.hia.no] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
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| 10:05.05 | art3mis | diao: to make you drinks without having to get out of the swimming pool of course |
| 10:05.09 | art3mis | there we go! |
| 10:05.15 | art3mis | the time line is once again secure |
| 10:05.17 | Diao | haha |
| 10:06.05 | Diao | i don't think i have *any* elements of the default UI remaining |
| 10:06.08 | rronkiv | Diao, i want to use the default ui.. however i want 2 action bars on the left and 2 on the right. |
| 10:06.12 | rronkiv | thats all i need, no extra's. |
| 10:06.16 | Sole | lol, starcraft 2 notice is even in the WoW launcher |
| 10:06.20 | Diao | yeah it is lol |
| 10:06.21 | rronkiv | i want to on the left just like the ones on the right 2.. |
| 10:06.21 | art3mis | get flexbar |
| 10:06.25 | Diao | er |
| 10:06.28 | art3mis | or infinity bar |
| 10:06.30 | nevcairiel | wonder why i never cared about stickyframes |
| 10:06.33 | art3mis | whatever its called now |
| 10:06.37 | nevcairiel | its damn useful now that it works right :P |
| 10:06.39 | Diao | well |
| 10:06.44 | Diao | no matter what you do it won't look like the default i think |
| 10:06.51 | art3mis | yeah |
| 10:06.57 | art3mis | itll still have the bottom crap |
| 10:07.00 | Diao | closest is probably ct barmod but that's ugly |
| 10:07.04 | Diao | :x |
| 10:07.04 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I even added it to bt3 at some point, and it was removed again, afaik. |
| 10:07.06 | art3mis | those just make more bars for ya |
| 10:07.06 | Sole | I might go find a copy of SC and SC:Brood War |
| 10:07.08 | Sole | and play em |
| 10:07.10 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: using the stickframes lib |
| 10:07.11 | Sole | just to remember the story line again |
| 10:07.12 | vhaarr | sticky* |
| 10:07.14 | art3mis | without touching the original interface |
| 10:07.20 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: oh? not removed by me at least |
| 10:07.22 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: or maybe that was bt2 |
| 10:07.27 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: derivation? I was getting the autors from http://www.wowace.com/wiki/prat but I don't see anything about that there |
| 10:07.33 | nevcairiel | yeah bt2 had that |
| 10:07.37 | nevcairiel | but it stayed in |
| 10:07.41 | art3mis | hehe sc:ghost canceled when they realized they prolly couldnt make a good fps ;P |
| 10:07.54 | Diao | eh |
| 10:07.58 | Diao | sc:g was a third person console shooter :o |
| 10:08.03 | rronkiv | art3mis which is better flex or infinity? |
| 10:08.06 | Diao | or supposed to be |
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| 10:08.08 | art3mis | sc2 started once they realized just how many of us nerds still play broodwars |
| 10:08.10 | Sole | < I dont like third person console shooters |
| 10:08.14 | Diao | same |
| 10:08.15 | art3mis | flex is stabler |
| 10:08.20 | art3mis | infini is newer |
| 10:08.24 | Diao | they probably didn't have enough fanbase for it |
| 10:08.25 | art3mis | i'd go infini |
| 10:08.25 | Sole | sc2 started when they realized they show broodwar on TV in korea |
| 10:08.34 | Diao | meh |
| 10:08.42 | Diao | they planned sc2 when sc1 came out |
| 10:08.45 | Sole | true that |
| 10:08.52 | Adirelle | "Parse damage messages from swstats and damagemeters." nice idea :p |
| 10:08.53 | Diao | the domain has been regged to blizz since like '98 |
| 10:08.56 | Diao | lol |
| 10:09.06 | Sole | but 2 cinematic trailers, one in english and another in korean is sayin something |
| 10:09.13 | rronkiv | Infinibar? |
| 10:09.14 | Diao | they've been working on it for 10 years? |
| 10:09.17 | Sole | well Im sure blizz just booked the domain in case they ever made sc2 |
| 10:09.18 | Diao | :P |
| 10:09.19 | art3mis | yeah |
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| 10:09.26 | art3mis | umm whats his name here makes it |
| 10:09.31 | Sole | as soon as a concept is introduced, they book the domain |
| 10:09.32 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r35848 10Decursive/ (Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua Dcr_Events.lua WhatsNew.txt): |
| 10:09.32 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 10:09.32 | CIA-23 | - Bug fix: Pets were not updated properly. |
| 10:09.33 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35849 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/FontSize.lua: Prat: Disables restoring the Font choice by default. |
| 10:09.34 | Diao | well the trailer isn't too hard to remake in another language |
| 10:09.35 | Megalon | Sole: well, you don't need that much to translate 3 sentences to korean? :P |
| 10:09.40 | Diao | just modify part of it and splice it in |
| 10:09.47 | Sole | Megalon: no, but the fact is they bothered translating it! |
| 10:09.55 | art3mis | jjsheets? |
| 10:10.02 | Megalon | well, when making sc2 |
| 10:10.07 | FISKER_Q | they might as well |
| 10:10.08 | Megalon | you better release a korean version |
| 10:10.12 | FISKER_Q | cause they're going to eventually |
| 10:10.13 | Megalon | and think of making a english one |
| 10:10.13 | Megalon | :P |
| 10:10.15 | Sole | TRUE DAT |
| 10:10.19 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit they will say Inspired by etc. |
| 10:10.23 | Megalon | not the other way round ;D |
| 10:10.25 | Sole | caps lock is autopilot for win |
| 10:10.25 | Diao | they had to release a korean version |
| 10:10.31 | Diao | since they planned to announce it in korea :P |
| 10:10.38 | Diao | and that's where their major fanbase is |
| 10:10.52 | Megalon | i always thought i'm there major fanbase |
| 10:10.56 | Megalon | in points of starcraft |
| 10:10.57 | Megalon | :( |
| 10:11.01 | Megalon | their* |
| 10:11.34 | FISKER_Q | http://www.gamemeca.com/news/img_data/200705/WWI_2007_05_19_m8.jpg <- i like where this is going |
| 10:11.42 | art3mis | i didnt read all that much are they doing it battle.net style or mmo? |
| 10:12.04 | Megalon | rts |
| 10:12.19 | Megalon | battle.net style i think |
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| 10:12.27 | Megalon | or the create a new genre with MMORTS! |
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| 10:13.02 | FISKER_Q | aww man |
| 10:13.12 | FISKER_Q | the third part of the movie is battlecruisers vs. protoss |
| 10:13.20 | Megalon | giev |
| 10:13.32 | art3mis | mmorts would rule |
| 10:13.39 | art3mis | graphical SRE ;P |
| 10:13.40 | Megalon | or the one that you already uploaded? :o |
| 10:13.47 | Sole | I just hope they retain the essence of SC in SC2 |
| 10:13.54 | FISKER_Q | it's the third part of the one i already uploaded |
| 10:13.57 | FISKER_Q | but i don't got the movie |
| 10:14.00 | FISKER_Q | saw some screenshots |
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| 10:14.29 | FISKER_Q | IE is hitting 250MB memory :( |
| 10:14.38 | FISKER_Q | because of all those asian sites |
| 10:14.52 | renchap | use firefox |
| 10:15.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah, firefox'd be at 550 by now |
| 10:15.43 | Gnarfoz | bigger numbers! |
| 10:16.07 | art3mis | gat to da choppahz! |
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| 10:17.37 | FISKER_Q | http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=99641&board=&page=&category=104&subcategory=&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby= |
| 10:17.46 | FISKER_Q | screenshots from the second and third part of the movier |
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| 10:20.26 | FISKER_Q | gonna try with keke language support |
| 10:20.29 | FISKER_Q | so gotta restart my computer |
| 10:20.36 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 10:20.37 | FISKER_Q | brb |
| 10:20.40 | Gnarfoz | can you read that stuff? |
| 10:20.47 | FISKER_Q | no |
| 10:20.55 | FISKER_Q | but apparently the links are also in keke language |
| 10:21.03 | FISKER_Q | so i gotta see if they become downloadable with kekelanguage |
| 10:21.03 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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| 10:27.36 | Fisker- | heh |
| 10:27.38 | Fisker- | that worked |
| 10:27.42 | Fisker- | well now i can atleast stream it |
| 10:27.55 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: isn't his name listed in the lua file? |
| 10:28.37 | nevcairiel | doesnt hurt to mention it :p |
| 10:28.54 | nevcairiel | and |
| 10:28.56 | nevcairiel | no its not |
| 10:28.59 | vhaarr | no, I'm just thinking we usually don't credit library authors |
| 10:29.03 | vhaarr | heh |
| 10:29.09 | vhaarr | well then np :P |
| 10:31.42 | Diao | o_O |
| 10:31.47 | Diao | which links |
| 10:33.20 | rronkiv | ok i cant figure out infinibar flexbar doesnt work, any next one's? remember i just need to add 2 freaking actions bars just like the defualt right 2 LOL... (didnt think it would be this hard. |
| 10:33.44 | Fisker- | haha this sucks |
| 10:33.57 | Fisker- | none of my tools can get the movie because of the korean chars |
| 10:33.57 | vhaarr | rronkiv: use bt3? |
| 10:34.09 | nevcairiel | he wants to keep the default bars |
| 10:34.14 | nevcairiel | and add addiotional bars |
| 10:34.18 | Lysithea | Fisker- all of those vids are on youtube already |
| 10:34.20 | Megalon | fisker-: link? :o |
| 10:34.22 | nevcairiel | i dont know any bar addon which does that :P |
| 10:34.24 | vhaarr | aha |
| 10:34.26 | vhaarr | no :P |
| 10:34.32 | Fisker- | http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=99637&board=&page=&category=104&subcategory=&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby= |
| 10:34.37 | grzesieq | add bongos-style keybind setup to bt3 please :) |
| 10:34.45 | nevcairiel | whats bongos-style? |
| 10:34.50 | nevcairiel | the trinity-style? |
| 10:34.53 | grzesieq | mouseover and press key |
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| 10:35.12 | nevcairiel | yeah tuller stole that idea from trinity |
| 10:35.18 | nevcairiel | guess i might steal that too :P |
| 10:35.24 | grzesieq | please do |
| 10:35.27 | vhaarr | how's that useful? |
| 10:35.37 | grzesieq | well |
| 10:35.44 | nevcairiel | just activate it, mouseover the button, press key |
| 10:35.48 | nevcairiel | and new binding |
| 10:35.49 | Wogroipl | how ofter do you set up keybindings anyway? |
| 10:36.04 | Gngsk | every other day |
| 10:36.06 | nevcairiel | i can see how it can be useful |
| 10:36.11 | grzesieq | every respec :P |
| 10:36.17 | vhaarr | ah, the ability to set keybindings like that, alright |
| 10:36.21 | vhaarr | that would be nice |
| 10:36.34 | Diao | hm |
| 10:37.34 | Fisker- | that's it |
| 10:37.41 | Silviu- | nevcairiel what`s those Sticky bars, what it actually do ? ;) |
| 10:37.53 | vhaarr | same as they did in bt2 |
| 10:38.04 | nevcairiel | if you move 2 bars close together, they snap |
| 10:38.14 | nevcairiel | so you get a perfect layout |
| 10:38.16 | Silviu- | Ahhh |
| 10:38.17 | Silviu- | Ok |
| 10:38.23 | Silviu- | Thx, i understand now ;) |
| 10:38.35 | vhaarr | lol |
| 10:38.40 | Chompers | ooooh |
| 10:38.41 | Fisker- | i\ve had it with these motherfucking koreans! |
| 10:38.45 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:38.46 | Chompers | so it was starcraft 2 |
| 10:38.57 | Gngsk | yes'wuz |
| 10:39.03 | Lysithea | Fisker- what are you trying to do= |
| 10:39.15 | Fisker- | trying to download a korean media stream |
| 10:39.25 | renchap | nevcairiel: can you implement an Inferface Builder (mac app) like positioning ? |
| 10:39.29 | Lysithea | the sc2 vids? |
| 10:39.32 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:39.32 | renchap | thats an improved sticky frames |
| 10:39.37 | Fisker- | but because the link is written with korean letters i'm apparently pwned |
| 10:39.39 | Lysithea | they're already on youtube |
| 10:39.47 | nevcairiel | ive never ever used a mac |
| 10:39.54 | nevcairiel | so no idea what you mean :P |
| 10:40.01 | renchap | when two elements are nearly aligned, it aligns it |
| 10:40.16 | renchap | even if they have space between the elements |
| 10:40.22 | Lysithea | Fisker- http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=koreanism |
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| 10:40.46 | nevcairiel | ah i see what you mean |
| 10:40.48 | Fisker- | he's still missing the last part |
| 10:40.54 | Fisker- | which is the one i've been trying to get for ?? years now |
| 10:40.58 | renchap | thats very usefull |
| 10:41.02 | renchap | -l |
| 10:41.12 | renchap | and it works with up, right, left, ... |
| 10:41.17 | Lysithea | ohh |
| 10:41.24 | Lysithea | that site actually has that one |
| 10:42.56 | Fisker- | cheat though |
| 10:43.01 | Fisker- | i uploaded them before his :( |
| 10:43.14 | Fisker- | stupid koreans kekeke |
| 10:44.22 | renchap | nevcairiel: screen shot here http://zovirl.com/2006/07/xcode_pics/guides.jpg |
| 10:44.50 | renchap | you have some help lines, when the element you drag and drop is near a line it stick |
| 10:44.53 | rronkiv | vhaarr i would use bt3, but i want the defult ui stuff to |
| 10:45.03 | vhaarr | yeah okay |
| 10:45.05 | renchap | lines are top, bottom, center, right, left of other elements |
| 10:46.04 | renchap | if all addons can add a feature like this it can be very powerful :) |
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| 10:54.49 | elegantchaos | i know this is a shot in the dark but i guess i'm desperate, does anyone here use ventrilo through the program called crossover on os x? i am able to hear people in the channel but would really like to be able to talk, thanks |
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| 10:55.12 | rronkiv | ok |
| 10:55.14 | rronkiv | so i broke down |
| 10:55.16 | rronkiv | im making the change :P |
| 10:55.19 | rronkiv | bartender it is.. |
| 10:55.31 | Chompers | Welcome to the dark side |
| 10:55.33 | Diao | o_O |
| 10:55.34 | rronkiv | ^.^ |
| 10:55.38 | Diao | elegantchaos why not just use the mac vent client? |
| 10:55.44 | Neebler | http://www.sanbaldo.com/flickr/tops.php |
| 10:55.57 | elegantchaos | it doesnt support GSM, and crossover allows me to be able to at least hear GSM channels |
| 10:58.23 | Gnarfoz | why use gsm anyway oO |
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| 10:59.57 | kebinusan | wish they'd release a linux client |
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| 11:00.58 | elegantchaos | because everyone uses gsm :( |
| 11:01.12 | NimbleRabit | kebinusan: doesn't it work pretty well in Wine? |
| 11:01.40 | elegantchaos | it should, i believe you can even get outbound working too on linux there is a guide on the codeweavers site |
| 11:02.08 | elegantchaos | kindof a guide, someone with suse did it relatively easily so i imagine any distro would work |
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| 11:06.20 | kebinusan | NimbleRabit: it runs ok, you just need to run another program to trap input form /dev/event for push to talk when the window isnt active |
| 11:06.38 | rronkiv | using bartender3 can i make my buttons vert? or only horizontal? |
| 11:06.54 | nevcairiel | vert too |
| 11:06.57 | nevcairiel | change rows to 12 |
| 11:07.06 | Gngsk | only if you understand the concept of rows and columns |
| 11:07.47 | Megalon | if you fail at tetris |
| 11:07.50 | Megalon | you fail at bartender! |
| 11:08.58 | Megalon | vote for L and _|_ shaped bars in bartender! |
| 11:09.07 | Fisker- | any firefox wmv leeching tools btw+ :P |
| 11:09.20 | kebinusan | fisker Im sure there are check the extensions site |
| 11:09.36 | kebinusan | Anyone know a good place to find textures for say top/bottom viewport panels? |
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| 11:12.36 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: do you just want suggestions posted in the forum thread? |
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| 11:24.38 | renchap | is it a quest history addon ? |
| 11:25.54 | Fisker- | korean locale begone! |
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| 11:29.24 | rronkiv | vhaarr, i are there anyways to change the enchanted tool tip location? |
| 11:30.44 | evl | ckknight: DogTag HasFlag? :) |
| 11:30.58 | evl | nvm :) |
| 11:31.11 | vhaarr | rronkiv: what tooltip? |
| 11:32.15 | rronkiv | like if you select enhanced tooltips in interface options and highlight a spell it will show information for it.. but it only shows those tooltips in the bottom rigth after u enable it |
| 11:32.24 | rronkiv | i wanna change it so the tooltips will show where the mouse is |
| 11:32.34 | Wogroipl | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:33.01 | rronkiv | ya but when its enhanced its only bottom left |
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| 11:33.06 | rronkiv | oh |
| 11:33.06 | rronkiv | lol |
| 11:33.06 | rronkiv | nvm |
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| 11:35.56 | Punkie` | Is there some sort of API like, IsPoisoned() ? |
| 11:38.37 | Megalon | think you'll have to scan the buffs |
| 11:38.42 | Megalon | or debuffs |
| 11:39.00 | Punkie` | mhmmm, there must be a library to provide this info for me :( |
| 11:40.34 | Punkie` | oooohhh |
| 11:40.55 | Punkie` | SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 has UnitHasDebuffType |
| 11:40.57 | Punkie` | cool |
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| 11:46.00 | Neebler | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/72/207577800_8a74f0b4b2_o.jpg |
| 11:46.00 | Neebler | hmm never knew she had a tattoo |
| 11:46.26 | Fisker- | is that scarlett? |
| 11:46.48 | evl | it COULD be paint |
| 11:48.22 | kebinusan | is there anything on the svn that has textures for say viewport areas onthe screen |
| 11:49.50 | Punkie` | whats the little ingame notepad called again? |
| 11:49.54 | BankZ | Is there an ace addon that keeps track of who joins and leaves a guild? |
| 11:50.10 | kebinusan | Punkie`: omnibus |
| 11:50.21 | Punkie` | BankZ: It wouldn't be very useful if you weren't online 24/7 :P |
| 11:50.27 | Punkie` | cheers kebinusan |
| 11:50.52 | Gngsk | Punkie`, what if it distributed a database across all guild members seamlessly! |
| 11:51.21 | Punkie` | Gngsk: You suggested it, now get making! |
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| 11:51.59 | BankZ | Punkie`: no, it WOULD because you CANT be on 24/7 |
| 11:52.43 | Punkie` | or you should just get a guild where people aren't invited and people aren't leaving all the time :P |
| 11:54.56 | FiskerIsAnub | he really is |
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| 11:55.22 | FiskerIsAnub | aint that right Fisker- =)? |
| 11:55.26 | rronkiv | can someone tell me how to make it so when i hit B it opens ALL my bags at once, not just one? |
| 11:55.40 | rronkiv | or are there /open commands for the bags? |
| 11:55.47 | BankZ | so no ace addon that tracks things like that? |
| 11:56.00 | Diao | lol |
| 11:56.03 | Diao | rronkiv |
| 11:56.06 | Diao | just go to normal keybindings |
| 11:56.13 | Diao | and change the binding for open all bags to b |
| 11:56.17 | Diao | instead of shift-b or whatever it is |
| 11:57.14 | Diao | i wonder |
| 11:57.22 | Diao | how to enable support for other languages in en-wow |
| 11:57.33 | Diao | i tried font replacement but it still wouldn't let me type in another language :( |
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| 12:00.15 | rronkiv | hey |
| 12:00.18 | rronkiv | with bartender3 |
| 12:00.34 | rronkiv | it doesnt show me a red hotkey when i am not in range |
| 12:00.43 | Punkie` | turn it on then |
| 12:00.57 | rronkiv | how? |
| 12:01.07 | Punkie` | out of range indicator |
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| 12:01.26 | rronkiv | ok i feel like a idiot no |
| 12:01.27 | rronkiv | now* |
| 12:01.57 | Fisker- | and you are |
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| 12:03.33 | Punkie` | Guys if I make a frame with text that returns if something is poisoned or not by using 'if(Aura:UnitHasDebuffType("target", "Poison")) then...' do I need to schedule an event otherwise it will just remain static? |
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| 12:04.36 | vhaarr | Punkie`: Just schedule it with a SEEA event. |
| 12:04.59 | vhaarr | SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffGained / SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffLost |
| 12:05.20 | wobin | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8000409016826512649 |
| 12:05.28 | wobin | Music for One Apartment and Six Drummers |
| 12:05.33 | wobin | really really good =) |
| 12:05.41 | [dRaCo] | he, yeah. that one rocks. |
| 12:05.47 | Punkie` | ok, was going to use something like self:RegisterBucketEvent("PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED", 0.2, ) |
| 12:05.58 | wobin | You can't trust them Swedes =) |
| 12:06.40 | Punkie` | self:RegisterBucketEvent("PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED", 0.2, "PoisonCheck") even |
| 12:07.47 | Punkie` | is there an event that happens when you change target or untarget someone? |
| 12:08.18 | vhaarr | PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 12:08.25 | rronkiv | anyone use cartogpher? |
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| 12:08.37 | Punkie` | thanks vhaarr :) |
| 12:09.08 | rronkiv | something happen and now when i hit M it opens the cartog map, when i hit M again, it changes to the cartog map smaller scale when i hit esc it finally does close i have esc close turned off |
| 12:09.37 | Punkie` | do you have another map mod? |
| 12:09.41 | [dRaCo] | you're prolly hittin alt-m |
| 12:10.10 | rronkiv | nope |
| 12:10.44 | rronkiv | im not hit alt m and i should only have 1 map addon |
| 12:12.39 | rronkiv | ugh and reloading the ui didnt work |
| 12:13.54 | Punkie` | Sorry for being a nub, is there a check to see if I have a target? |
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| 12:14.13 | vhaarr | UnitExists("target") |
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| 12:14.36 | Punkie` | thanks again :) |
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| 12:16.21 | Punkie` | can you if inside an if? |
| 12:16.31 | CIA-23 | 03belazor * r35851 10FuBar_TradeCDFu/FuBar_TradeCooldownFu.lua: |
| 12:16.31 | CIA-23 | FuBar_TradeCDFu: |
| 12:16.31 | CIA-23 | - Fixed TRADE_SKILL_UPDATE() function to work with all cooldowns. |
| 12:16.31 | CIA-23 | - Credit to Thiana from FuBar_tcgTradeskills for the function. |
| 12:16.59 | rronkiv | any idea's anyone? |
| 12:17.32 | nevcairiel | Punkie`: of course you can |
| 12:17.52 | Punkie` | woohoo :D |
| 12:18.15 | Punkie` | this is going to be lovely |
| 12:18.42 | BankZ | Anyone here use Cooldown timers 2? I cant get it put bar for rebirth and swiftment |
| 12:18.46 | BankZ | *siftmend |
| 12:19.14 | CIA-23 | 03skyboat * r35852 10Skinner/AddonSkins/DoTimer.lua: Skinner: DoTimer.lua forgot to skin Cooldowns background. |
| 12:19.29 | BankZ | any ideas? |
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| 12:20.51 | rronkiv | ok i deleted all the config (sharedvariables) for cartogpher |
| 12:20.57 | rronkiv | now, M opens it, but nothing closes it |
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| 12:21.36 | rronkiv | and when i goto keybindings it says that M is bound to open but there's no option for close |
| 12:21.47 | Punkie` | try just rebinding it |
| 12:21.52 | rronkiv | i did |
| 12:21.56 | Punkie` | weird stuff |
| 12:22.09 | Punkie` | try selecting a new profile for carto |
| 12:24.20 | rronkiv | if i type |
| 12:24.21 | rronkiv | Cartographer:OpenAlternateMap() |
| 12:24.25 | rronkiv | would it open? |
| 12:24.30 | rronkiv | or /Cartographer:OpenAlternateMap() |
| 12:25.13 | Punkie` | try it, but it would be /script Carto....... |
| 12:25.33 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r35853 10HotCandy/ (HotCandy.toc libs/): |
| 12:25.34 | CIA-23 | HotCandy: |
| 12:25.34 | CIA-23 | - add SharedMediaLib as external, |
| 12:25.34 | CIA-23 | - SharedMedia as OptDep |
| 12:25.34 | CIA-23 | - removed Library OptDeps |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-23 | 03moonsorrow * r35854 10Violation/ (Violation.lua libs/): |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-23 | Violation: |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-23 | - added sharedmedia and acemodulecore to external libs |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-23 | - bar display can now be showed/hidden by shift-clicking the fubar menu |
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| 12:32.59 | Seyken | Hello all :) |
| 12:34.19 | Kalman| | BankZ: What barmod do you use? |
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| 12:39.05 | Kalman| | Bah, nvm, was thinking of oCD. |
| 12:39.09 | rronkiv | ok, Bartender3, how come my profession and other skills clickys dont show up unless i hit P |
| 12:40.25 | nevcairiel | thats so weird |
| 12:40.33 | nevcairiel | i've never ever seen that bug myself |
| 12:40.42 | nevcairiel | but lots of people report it |
| 12:41.02 | evlcookie | it happends when your in combat, well to me anyway |
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| 12:42.35 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r35855 10Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: try to update icon if its nil but we have a action |
| 12:42.40 | rronkiv | how can i fix it? |
| 12:42.42 | nevcairiel | rronkiv: try that version and see if it still happens |
| 12:43.32 | rronkiv | how do i get that? |
| 12:43.55 | nevcairiel | well |
| 12:44.01 | rronkiv | ahh its a svn huh? |
| 12:44.04 | nevcairiel | wait until the files page refeshes |
| 12:44.08 | nevcairiel | or use svn, yeha |
| 12:44.13 | nevcairiel | *yeah |
| 12:44.19 | rronkiv | can someone svn that for me and email or dcc it to me? |
| 12:44.27 | rronkiv | i dont know squat about svn |
| 12:44.34 | nevcairiel | i can send you the fixed file |
| 12:44.50 | nevcairiel | which version do you run now? |
| 12:45.12 | rronkiv | which everyone, wowaceupdater installs |
| 12:45.17 | rronkiv | i think the most recent? |
| 12:45.17 | Silviu- | nevcairiel just send him the full file |
| 12:45.19 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 12:45.26 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:45.30 | rronkiv | a new bartender3 directory? |
| 12:45.45 | rronkiv | Will i have to reposition all my buttons and shizzle? |
| 12:45.46 | Silviu- | rronkiv u update with wowaceupdater ? |
| 12:45.52 | rronkiv | ya |
| 12:45.56 | Silviu- | Then wait 20 mins |
| 12:46.02 | Silviu- | And update it :) |
| 12:46.03 | rronkiv | 20 minutes and it iwll? |
| 12:46.03 | rronkiv | ok |
| 12:46.06 | nevcairiel | yeah, just wait a while, and run the updater |
| 12:46.10 | rronkiv | i'll go level till then... |
| 12:46.10 | nevcairiel | the files refresh every 20 minutes |
| 12:47.29 | nevcairiel | i am not sure why that error happens tho |
| 12:47.32 | nevcairiel | i think its some load-lag |
| 12:47.49 | rronkiv | it only started once i turned on "out of rage indicator" |
| 12:48.31 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 12:48.43 | Silviu- | At me was when i reskilled |
| 12:48.43 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 12:49.00 | Silviu- | Maybe because some buttons disapeared from my bar too fast |
| 12:49.08 | wobin | Kemayo: you about? |
| 12:49.11 | Silviu- | And then some only show when i open spellbook |
| 12:49.14 | rronkiv | UM |
| 12:49.17 | rronkiv | this is fucking weird |
| 12:49.18 | wobin | ~seen kemayo |
| 12:49.56 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 6h 34m 32s, last said: 'Ooo.'. |
| 12:49.57 | Silviu- | But, all was back to normal after a reload |
| 12:49.57 | rronkiv | who's in charge of bartender3? |
| 12:49.57 | Silviu- | nevcairiel |
| 12:49.57 | rronkiv | nevcairiel, i just logged into wow, and its fixxed... |
| 12:49.58 | rronkiv | i'm going to pay very close attention and if it disapears again i'll let you know what happen right befor :P |
| 12:51.28 | rronkiv | hey |
| 12:51.40 | rronkiv | can i make the micromenu 2 buttons wide vert? |
| 12:51.52 | rronkiv | so that like 4 buttons on left 4 buttons on right |
| 12:52.46 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 12:52.57 | nevcairiel | just play with the rows setting |
| 12:53.58 | rronkiv | ok |
| 12:54.03 | rronkiv | i am so uber happy lol |
| 12:57.04 | Xuerian | Menu (esc) spellbook (p) friends (o) skills (k) quests (l) lfg (i) map (m) reputation (u) character (c) talents (n). No need for a bar period :p |
| 12:58.22 | wobin | the only thing missing is report |
| 12:59.16 | Chompers | STV /1 chat is great |
| 12:59.29 | Chompers | its so useless |
| 12:59.44 | Kalman| | wobin: That's what spamsentry is for. |
| 13:00.09 | wobin | It's true |
| 13:00.13 | wobin | <3 SpamSentry |
| 13:00.20 | wobin | although I have to see if we can add an eent |
| 13:00.21 | wobin | event |
| 13:00.29 | Kalman| | Although I don't use the report feature anymore. |
| 13:00.39 | wobin | who's is SpamSentry? |
| 13:00.41 | Kalman| | Thanks for giving me two pieces of spam for every one I report, Blizzard! |
| 13:00.49 | wobin | It's true =( |
| 13:01.12 | Kalman| | It does a very nice job of just invisibly blocking them, though. |
| 13:01.16 | Megalon | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ODshB09FQ8w spam! |
| 13:01.27 | Megalon | spam spam spam spam spam spam! |
| 13:03.19 | BankZ | Anyone here use Cooldown timers 2? I cant get it put bar for rebirth and swiftmend? |
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| 13:06.46 | Panye | need help locating an addon, what I'm looking for is when a warrior's short has expired it annouce's it |
| 13:07.14 | Panye | shout not short** |
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| 13:08.51 | panye2 | need help looking for an add |
| 13:10.01 | CIA-23 | 03athou * r35856 10Taggle/Taggle.lua: |
| 13:10.01 | CIA-23 | Taggle: |
| 13:10.01 | CIA-23 | - Don't show afk/dnd auto-replies from ignored people |
| 13:10.44 | rronkiv | can u get into gnomergane at level 18? |
| 13:11.02 | panye2 | yeah but you wont get quests or last long |
| 13:11.10 | Kalman| | That's what 70s are for. |
| 13:11.23 | Kalman| | However, you won't be able to use most (possibly any) of the drops. |
| 13:12.06 | rronkiv | would i get xp? |
| 13:12.19 | rronkiv | im a enchanter, i'll either use the drops for money or disenchant it |
| 13:12.20 | rronkiv | :P |
| 13:12.24 | Kalman| | Less than you'd get questing normally. |
| 13:12.27 | BankZ | Anyone here work on "Cooldown Timers 2" ? |
| 13:12.35 | rronkiv | i have a 66 mage buddy |
| 13:12.47 | rronkiv | would i get more xp in the stocks? |
| 13:12.52 | rronkiv | i get ruffly 43xp a kil |
| 13:12.57 | rronkiv | in stocks |
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| 13:13.31 | Kalman| | Getting powered through an instance is less XP than questgrinding; the only reason to do it is to get the quest completions quickly, which is faster XP than doing it in a group. |
| 13:14.21 | BankZ | I like "Cooldown Timers 2" but it doesnt track a lot of stuff correctly |
| 13:14.55 | Punkie` | How do you justify SetText? |
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| 13:15.22 | panye2 | anyone know of a addon which tells you when warrior demo shouts are up? |
| 13:15.46 | Punkie` | panye2: There probably isn't one! |
| 13:16.03 | Fisker- | btw vhaarr |
| 13:16.13 | panye2 | seen a video with one |
| 13:16.14 | Fisker- | gamemeca.com might have the whole videos |
| 13:16.14 | Fisker- | i'm downloading now to see |
| 13:16.20 | Fisker- | but link speeds around 10kB/s :( |
| 13:16.24 | Fisker- | file = 100MB |
| 13:16.25 | vhaarr | :< |
| 13:16.31 | Megalon | :C |
| 13:16.43 | Punkie` | vhaarr: How do you justify SetText? :) |
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| 13:16.58 | Punkie` | Text always centers itself in my frame! |
| 13:17.56 | vhaarr | you do it on the fontinstance |
| 13:19.14 | BankZ | Does Sorren even come here? |
| 13:19.17 | Punkie` | All I have done is this, for instance: local font = GameFontNormal:GetFont() |
| 13:19.35 | Punkie` | f.fwr:SetFont(font, 11) |
| 13:19.40 | Punkie` | so, in SetFont? |
| 13:20.12 | vhaarr | read wowwikis widget api |
| 13:20.26 | Punkie` | i am :) |
| 13:21.24 | vhaarr | and you don't see it? you just said the keyword to search for yourself. |
| 13:21.51 | Punkie` | yes, i can see it |
| 13:21.54 | Punkie` | but I don't know how to use it |
| 13:22.01 | nevcairiel | the search feature in the wiki teh sucks |
| 13:22.13 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yeah I meant browser search on the api page |
| 13:22.19 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 13:22.21 | nevcairiel | okies |
| 13:22.26 | Kalman| | Not even that, it's just very unclear what to apply SetTextJustify to. |
| 13:23.26 | vhaarr | FontInstance:SetJustifyH("justifyH") - Sets horizontal text justification ("LEFT","RIGHT", or "CENTER") |
| 13:23.29 | vhaarr | couldn't be more clear than that |
| 13:23.52 | Kalman| | Sure. If you know what FontInstance is and how it works. |
| 13:24.17 | vhaarr | "This is another abstract object type that groups together a number of font related methods that are used by multiple other widget types." |
| 13:24.40 | Kalman| | That's very helpful. |
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| 13:24.51 | vhaarr | FontInstance Derivatives -> Font -> "This object was introduced in 1.10 to replace virtual FontStrings, it allows for dynamic inheritance of font template changes. The standard UI fonts such as GameFontNormal are now Font objects." |
| 13:25.00 | vhaarr | <Punkie`> All I have done is this, for instance: local font = GameFontNormal:GetFont() |
| 13:25.19 | Punkie` | I did that because Ammo told me to do that :P |
| 13:25.26 | Punkie` | he said, that's how you get a font, do it |
| 13:25.32 | vhaarr | So he knows he has a Font object, which inherits from FontInstance, and so he has access to those methods. |
| 13:26.02 | vhaarr | So yes, I think it's helpful. |
| 13:26.13 | Kalman| | font.SetJustifyH("justifyH") would have been more helpful, given the prior snippet. |
| 13:26.15 | vhaarr | And if it's unclear, you can edit and clarify, it's a wiki afterall. |
| 13:26.38 | Kalman| | And I think it's fairly obvious that someone who doesn't understand it shouldn't be editing it. |
| 13:27.17 | vhaarr | That's not obvious at all, often the best people to write documentation are the ones who know nothing about the subject. |
| 13:29.13 | Punkie` | Ok, sorry didn't mean to cause an arguement, I think I got it now ^^ |
| 13:31.06 | Punkie` | woot, works :) |
| 13:39.44 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Inheritance really isn't complicated. 0_o |
| 13:40.14 | Kalman| | Xuerian: Not everyone codes for a living. |
| 13:40.26 | Kalman| | And some of us do it in languages that don't have inheritance. |
| 13:40.50 | Xuerian | Kalman|: What's hard about "This method has all the following functions, and all the functions from objects xxx, xxxx, xxx", even coming from a non-coding background? |
| 13:41.18 | Kalman| | Where is the connection drawn between FontInstance and GetFont? |
| 13:41.18 | Punkie` | I just didn't know how to apply it |
| 13:41.22 | Punkie` | thats all! |
| 13:41.23 | Kalman| | Exactly. |
| 13:41.25 | Punkie` | but its ok now |
| 13:41.39 | Kalman| | God forbid someone ask a question that's considered "easy". |
| 13:41.58 | Xuerian | Punkie`: you've transcended this argument. Kalman| has been sniping vhaarr, and I find it rather abrasive ;) |
| 13:42.28 | Punkie` | its ok |
| 13:42.33 | Punkie` | i made an awesome mutilate mod now |
| 13:42.34 | Xuerian | FontString has all of the methods from UIObject, FontInstance, Region and LayeredRegion, plus the following: |
| 13:42.34 | Xuerian | FontInstance has all of the methods from UIObject, plus the following: |
| 13:42.34 | Xuerian | FontInstance:GetFont() - Return the font file, height, and flags. |
| 13:42.52 | Xuerian | it's a hierarchal connection very easily shown by ctrl+f'ing the document |
| 13:44.19 | Punkie` | Is it bad to do self:RegisterBucketEvent("PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED", 0, "MutilateCheck") |
| 13:44.25 | Punkie` | or should it be self:RegisterBucketEvent("PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED", 0.2, "MutilateCheck") |
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| 13:44.32 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Anyhow. It's not Punkie`asking questions that I have a problem with. I've answered some of the same before, have I not? It's your agression ;) |
| 13:45.21 | Kalman| | Xuerian: That's nice. |
| 13:45.31 | Punkie` | The only reason I am making some small addons is because I had nice ideas and Ammo said he wouldnt make them :D |
| 13:45.42 | Xuerian | Punkie`: Excellent reasons. |
| 13:45.45 | Xuerian | Kalman|: What is, exactly? |
| 13:45.56 | Kalman| | Xuerian: That you find me abrasive. I work so hard on it. |
| 13:46.14 | Kalman| | But at least I try to answer questions with more than RTFM if I can. |
| 13:46.25 | Xuerian | Kalman|: That's nice. |
| 13:46.33 | Kalman| | I know, isn't it? All of us should try harder. |
| 13:47.20 | Xuerian | Hm. Possibly, though I try to get people to figure things out on their own, or teach them how to figure it out, than simply answering questions. |
| 13:47.38 | Kalman| | Sometimes that's the right way to handle things. |
| 13:47.45 | Kalman| | Sometimes a simple example is all that's needed. |
| 13:47.45 | Xuerian | Kalman|: After all, how does that old saying go? "Give a man a fish, and he's fed for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he's fed for the rest of his life" |
| 13:48.00 | Kalman| | Xuerian: "Show a man a lake and he's still going to starve." |
| 13:48.32 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Touche'. |
| 13:48.40 | vhaarr | I had already provided Punkie` with 2 direct answers today (if not 3), so I figured it was time for him to dig it up with some guidance. |
| 13:49.25 | Xuerian | Though if I'm not mistaken, the "Teach them how to figure it out" does somewhat cover the "Explination of a fishing pole, it's operation, and how to obtain one" part |
| 13:49.43 | Fisker- | geh vhaarr |
| 13:49.47 | Fisker- | gamemeca is down to 1kB/s |
| 13:49.53 | vhaarr | \o/ |
| 13:49.56 | Xuerian | Another movie? |
| 13:50.42 | Fisker- | though they uploaded a new vid on the other site |
| 13:50.42 | Punkie` | I have been looking at wowwiki but sometimes if you are talking to someone it's quicker to ask and also sometimes you just don't know what you're looking for ^^ |
| 13:50.42 | Fisker- | which might be part 3 |
| 13:50.43 | Xuerian | Punkie`: You're perfectly right. That's why I said I didn't really have a problem with you asking the question ;) |
| 13:50.43 | Xuerian | Fisker-: When did part 2 come out? Or was part 2 gameplay? |
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| 13:50.45 | Kalman| | vhaarr: To be fair, about half of this is me still being irritated with you for saying "Read the library code" for asking a non-obvious CandyBar question. |
| 13:51.05 | Fisker- | part 2 gameplay |
| 13:51.12 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Zomg links o.o |
| 13:51.25 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i29BOYwzfrs <-part1 |
| 13:51.29 | vhaarr | Kalman|: I know when I'm being attacked and not, thanks for explaining anyway. |
| 13:51.30 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNiCWQtU_s <-part 2 |
| 13:51.39 | Punkie` | Kalman|: to be honest, for the Special-Events auras I spent some time looking over it's code etc :) |
| 13:51.48 | Fisker- | bah |
| 13:51.53 | Fisker- | the other link was the concept art |
| 13:52.03 | Fisker- | the one i just downloaded that is |
| 13:52.19 | Kalman| | Punkie`: So did I, before asking. I wound up emailing Ammo and getting the answer I needed that way. |
| 13:53.04 | Fisker- | the movie i'm downloading from gamemeca is 20 minutes in length |
| 13:53.04 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Winning. |
| 13:53.09 | Fisker- | and it has the gameplay video |
| 13:53.11 | Xuerian | o.o |
| 13:53.14 | Xuerian | Nice. |
| 13:53.26 | Fisker- | so that's 10 minutes more (unless the rest is just crap) than the uploaded stuff right now |
| 13:53.38 | Fisker- | but it's gonna take an hour to complete because of the speed |
| 13:53.41 | Xuerian | >.< |
| 13:55.05 | Punkie` | anywho's, sorry to ask the same question, but is it bad for lag to make an event start after 0 sec, or should it be 0.2 :) |
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| 13:55.30 | Xuerian | Never done a bucket event myself. |
| 13:55.36 | Punkie` | ill just leave it as 0 :D |
| 13:56.03 | Punkie` | Time to do BM for a test :) |
| 13:56.17 | Kalman| | So, what's the addon do, anyway? |
| 13:58.20 | Punkie` | well it is just a box |
| 13:58.25 | Punkie` | with 4 rows |
| 13:58.32 | Punkie` | says like this; |
| 13:58.41 | Punkie` | Po: Yes/No |
| 13:58.46 | Punkie` | Ma: Yes/No |
| 13:59.02 | Punkie` | and also slicendice and find weakness |
| 13:59.06 | Kalman| | Ma? |
| 13:59.09 | Punkie` | mangle |
| 13:59.12 | Punkie` | for rupture :) |
| 13:59.17 | Kalman| | Ah. Nice. |
| 13:59.27 | Punkie` | just so I dont need to always search through debuffs to check |
| 14:01.21 | Kalman| | There's a mod called DebuffFilter you might look at, it handles some of that. |
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| 14:02.28 | Punkie` | perhaps, but this should just be a small mod really :) |
| 14:02.29 | harldephin | damn. i wished all those gold spamming shitnuts would just be dropping dead |
| 14:03.20 | Punkie` | but it also hides when you have no target too, pretty neat |
| 14:06.48 | harldephin | dead like %$%& |
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| 14:14.56 | Fisker- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Sylvanas&n=Emilyspear <-omg n00b |
| 14:15.29 | Punkie` | omg old |
| 14:25.11 | Saroz | Anyone have transcriptor for Skyriss ? |
| 14:25.35 | Saroz | or know which event his Mind Rend triggeres? |
| 14:25.41 | Saroz | need it in littlewigs -.- |
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| 14:37.24 | sbu | ckknight? |
| 14:39.07 | rronkiv | what is a GOOD little notepad (like tinypad) that i can use in wow that has a FuBar button? |
| 14:40.20 | Kinkx | Tinypad |
| 14:40.32 | Kinkx | FuBar_TinyPadFu |
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| 14:40.51 | rronkiv | my wow said Tinypad is incompatible |
| 14:40.59 | vhaarr | tinypad works fine |
| 14:41.03 | nevcairiel | mine works too |
| 14:41.18 | rronkiv | where can i get it? |
| 14:41.29 | Gnarfoz | http://fukung.net/images/2373/jesus_jeezus.jpg ^^ |
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| 14:44.27 | rronkiv | think i got it |
| 14:46.46 | moonsorrow | is there a trinket addon available at the repo? something similar to trinket menu |
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| 14:47.09 | vhaarr | no, we're all waiting for you to get that into swapmagic :P |
| 14:47.16 | moonsorrow | :( |
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| 14:53.31 | Fisker- | i'm doing a reencode of the gamemeca file |
| 14:53.38 | Fisker- | but it'll take a lot of time to upload |
| 14:53.41 | CIA-23 | 03borlox * r35857 10CombatDnd/ (. CombatDnd.toc Core.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 14:53.41 | CIA-23 | CombatDnd: |
| 14:53.41 | CIA-23 | -localized for enUS and deDE |
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| 14:55.05 | stavmar | that starcraft2 trailer was sweet:-) |
| 14:56.49 | CIA-23 | 03punkie * r35858 10pMutilate/: pMutilate - Creating Folder |
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| 14:56.53 | Azurewrath | Hell, it's about time ;) |
| 14:57.02 | stavmar | lol |
| 14:58.05 | Megalon | kerrigan showed up like 0.02 seconds |
| 14:58.09 | Megalon | enough time to fap to! |
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| 15:01.54 | CIA-23 | 03punkie * r35859 10pMutilate/ (core.lua libs/ pMutilate.toc): pMutilate - Simple checks for Mutilate Rogues |
| 15:03.47 | evl | what kind of checks? :P |
| 15:04.18 | Kalman| | Poisoned/mangle up/slicendice/find weakness |
| 15:04.44 | Kalman| | Punkie`: Post 2.1, might consider adding a Rupture bar. |
| 15:06.05 | Punkie` | yep what Kalman| said :) |
| 15:06.14 | Punkie` | move the box with alt+drag |
| 15:06.30 | Punkie` | and it only shows when you are targeting someone :) |
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| 15:10.26 | CIA-23 | 03azonia * r35860 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:10.27 | CIA-23 | FuBar_WhisperFu: |
| 15:10.27 | CIA-23 | - Played around with the spam menus |
| 15:10.27 | CIA-23 | - Added keyword and keyword group purge items to the spam options menu |
| 15:10.27 | CIA-23 | - Added sounds and sound options for whispers and caught spam |
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| 15:12.33 | Jagobah | oooooh |
| 15:12.34 | Jagobah | combatdnd |
| 15:13.09 | Jagobah | (09:36:38AM) <rronkiv> what is a GOOD little notepad (like tinypad) that i can use in wow that has a FuBar button? |
| 15:13.23 | Jagobah | Omnibus on files.wowace.com can also work as an in-game notepad |
| 15:13.37 | Jagobah | but my old experiences of it losing notepad data may not have been fixed yet |
| 15:13.56 | phyber | how did you lose that data? wow crashed after you wrote it? |
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| 15:15.28 | Fisker- | bah |
| 15:15.32 | Fisker- | reencoding takes a lot of time |
| 15:17.22 | Fisker- | yay |
| 15:17.41 | Fisker- | does have the scene after the mutalisks |
| 15:19.44 | Fisker- | 6 minutes to the encoding is done |
| 15:19.50 | Fisker- | hope it went well :o |
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| 15:22.03 | Jagobah | omnibus started producing multiple errors |
| 15:22.10 | Jagobah | and the page I currently had open was suddenly gone |
| 15:22.37 | Jagobah | after console reloadui, the next page would disappear as well |
| 15:22.47 | Jagobah | then I had an entire folio just bug out |
| 15:23.08 | Jagobah | So I took whatever I had left in it and backed it up and got rid of it |
| 15:26.43 | Punkie` | evl: you tested it? ^^ |
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| 15:29.43 | evl | no sorry |
| 15:29.48 | evl | was playing arena |
| 15:29.53 | evl | didn't want anything new loaded :) |
| 15:30.07 | evl | but WOOT we beat a warr+resto druid team as rogue+mage |
| 15:30.15 | evl | got 20 points and now ze shankar is mine! |
| 15:32.17 | Punkie` | nice :D |
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| 15:37.39 | CIA-23 | 03saroz * r35862 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Zereketh.lua: LittleWigs: Zereketh - Tweaks |
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| 15:51.20 | nevcairiel | i dont even know who zereketh is in tempest keep |
| 15:51.23 | nevcairiel | i suck :( |
| 15:52.02 | nevcairiel | i bet one of the twin bosses in arkatraz tho, cant remember their names :P |
| 15:52.15 | Xca | anyone here on Stormreaver or Doomhammer? |
| 15:52.34 | Iceroth | <-- stormreaver |
| 15:52.49 | Kalman| | Arcatraz voidwalker, nev. |
| 15:53.49 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 15:54.14 | nevcairiel | ive been there so often, but cant remember the names of any boss in there. |
| 15:54.27 | sbu | meeh |
| 15:54.31 | Xca | iceroth, are you horde or alliance? |
| 15:54.31 | sbu | GetReverseTranslation always throws errors? |
| 15:54.41 | sbu | ah HasReverseTranslation |
| 15:54.43 | Iceroth | ally |
| 15:54.44 | sbu | nvm |
| 15:54.48 | Xca | guild? |
| 15:54.56 | Iceroth | destined for valhalla, how come? |
| 15:55.08 | Xca | just wondering |
| 15:55.10 | Xca | tired of raiding |
| 15:55.12 | Xca | so im going to pvp |
| 15:55.21 | Xca | and want to get into a good arena team |
| 15:55.25 | nevcairiel | i dont get how people can play pvp all day |
| 15:55.28 | nevcairiel | its always the same |
| 15:55.30 | nevcairiel | boorring |
| 15:55.47 | Xca | pve progression is boring after the 1st week on a new boss.. |
| 15:56.03 | Kalman| | Depends on the boss. |
| 15:56.16 | Xca | magtheridon bored me |
| 15:56.27 | Xca | took us 2 weeks and i couldnt stand it |
| 15:57.08 | panye2 | dammit, for some reason I cant change columns of aura's in AG_UF, roll over it with the mouse and it jumps up to rows of aura's |
| 15:57.32 | nevcairiel | yeah maybe it takes 2 weeks to kill a boss, but you always get something new after that |
| 15:57.34 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 15:57.46 | nevcairiel | something for everyone tho :) |
| 15:57.47 | Xca | eh, ssc is so lame right now anyway |
| 15:58.03 | nevcairiel | the murloc trash is teh lame .( |
| 15:58.09 | Xca | yes |
| 15:58.26 | Xca | it honestly has driven me away from pve all together |
| 15:58.36 | Xca | i'm going to take a break and work on a pvp video |
| 15:58.37 | Iceroth | i wanna see hyjal |
| 15:58.41 | Xca | yeah :) |
| 15:58.42 | nevcairiel | so do i |
| 15:58.52 | nevcairiel | but we arent that far into sc right now |
| 15:59.00 | Iceroth | not to mention that imba staff i saw a screenshot of :p |
| 15:59.05 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:59.09 | CIA-23 | 03sbu * r35863 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2/ (. Babble-Mount-2.2.lua Babble-Mount-2.2.toc): |
| 15:59.09 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 15:59.09 | CIA-23 | - added Babble-Mount (no .toc entry yet, only directory/enUS data, untested, wowhead copy&paste) |
| 15:59.22 | Iceroth | i mean, 500 armor, 100 sta, 800 fap or so, droooool |
| 15:59.48 | sbu | hmm, wtf $Revision: $ tag not working |
| 15:59.49 | Xca | <--downloading halo3 beta atm ^^ |
| 16:00.21 | Iceroth | sbu, did you add the keyword to svn properties as well? |
| 16:03.21 | CIA-23 | 03sbu * r35864 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2/ (Babble-Mount-2.2.lua Babble-Mount-2.2.toc): |
| 16:03.21 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:03.21 | CIA-23 | - fix svn keywords |
| 16:03.58 | sbu | thank you Iceroth ;) |
| 16:04.10 | Hjalte | Can anyone tell me if there are plans to let the user remove buffs by right clicking the buffs in pitbull? You can't do that right now. |
| 16:05.21 | Iceroth | np, did the same mistake myself :) |
| 16:06.04 | Xca | iceroth, whats your character name? |
| 16:06.08 | Iceroth | <-- |
| 16:06.16 | Xca | not online? |
| 16:06.20 | Iceroth | i am |
| 16:06.40 | Xca | i dont see you online :s |
| 16:06.46 | Xca | eu stormreaver or us? |
| 16:06.52 | Iceroth | eu |
| 16:06.56 | Xca | oh =p |
| 16:06.58 | Xca | hehe |
| 16:07.09 | Iceroth | :p |
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| 16:12.32 | CIA-23 | 03sbu * r35865 10MountLib/ (6 files in 3 dirs): MountLib: initial import, provides IsMounted(unitID) function |
| 16:14.11 | rronkiv | do you get rest xp in auberdine? |
| 16:16.38 | CIA-23 | 03sbu * r35866 10MountLib/ (MountLib-1.0/MountLib-1.0.lua libs/): MountLib: svn keywords + externals |
| 16:16.39 | sheeps | if you stand in the inn, yes |
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| 16:18.54 | CIA-23 | 03nimbal * r35867 10Buffalo2/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:18.54 | CIA-23 | Buffalo2 |
| 16:18.54 | CIA-23 | - Added Tablet-2.0 as external |
| 16:18.54 | CIA-23 | - Ctrl-Leftclick on FuBar icon locks all buff containers |
| 16:18.54 | CIA-23 | - Added OnButtonClick(button, mouseButton) to template options |
| 16:18.55 | CIA-23 | - tweaked included templates a bit |
| 16:19.28 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 16:19.30 | Fisker- | buffalo2 |
| 16:19.51 | Xca | just got my buffalo working right :) |
| 16:20.33 | CIA-23 | 03iceroth * r35868 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.toc modules/CastBar.lua): IceHUD: Moved lag indicator for channeled spells to the bottom of the bar |
| 16:21.31 | sbu | ckknight: ping? |
| 16:22.22 | ckknight | hey all |
| 16:22.23 | ckknight | back |
| 16:22.26 | ckknight | hey sbu |
| 16:23.13 | sbu | ah |
| 16:23.13 | sbu | :) |
| 16:23.16 | sbu | mount stuff |
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| 16:30.49 | sbu | ckknight: grabbed all mounts (aura names) from wowhead |
| 16:31.21 | ckknight | k |
| 16:31.22 | ckknight | gotta go |
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| 16:38.32 | Fisker- | man |
| 16:38.36 | Fisker- | this karazhan group is sick |
| 16:38.42 | Fisker- | took 50% of curator on the first evo :o |
| 16:38.55 | sbu | sounds ok |
| 16:39.13 | Fisker- | we usually use 3 evocations on my other team |
| 16:39.21 | sbu | oh hm |
| 16:39.46 | sbu | we usually have 1st evoc to ~55%, 2nd next to 15-18% |
| 16:39.49 | sbu | err -next |
| 16:39.50 | Fisker- | btw vhaarr |
| 16:39.51 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdagKd2t1Sc |
| 16:39.55 | Fisker- | has the part after the protoss |
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| 16:49.36 | kenlyric | Fisker-: that's normal until your dps is awesome. |
| 16:49.37 | CIA-23 | 03nimbal * r35869 10Buffalo2/ (4 files): |
| 16:49.37 | CIA-23 | Buffalo2: |
| 16:49.37 | CIA-23 | - Added tooltip to FuBar icon |
| 16:49.37 | CIA-23 | - Added deDE |
| 16:49.39 | kenlyric | we've only had one awesome dps night. |
| 16:49.57 | kenlyric | also took shade down before sheeps, which requires pretty heavy dps too. |
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| 16:53.44 | kovi | nah, just requires good interupts :> |
| 16:54.37 | nevcairiel | or both ;) |
| 16:55.05 | nevcairiel | we killed him today with one rogue, one warrior and one mage interrupting only |
| 16:55.08 | nevcairiel | and still no sheeps |
| 16:55.36 | nevcairiel | our kara run was sick tho |
| 16:56.02 | nevcairiel | we cleared everything except the random animal mob thing, in under 4 hours |
| 16:57.10 | CIA-23 | 03saroz * r35870 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Skyriss.lua: LittleWigs: Skyriss: Warning for that nasty Mind Rend |
| 16:58.15 | Fisker- | we have no melee on this run |
| 16:58.18 | Fisker- | other than our 2 prot tanks |
| 16:58.36 | Fisker- | zzz @ fishies |
| 17:00.08 | Saroz | 1 shotted skyriss on heroic |
| 17:00.08 | Saroz | ftw |
| 17:00.09 | Saroz | :p |
| 17:00.29 | Hjalte | Saroz, what setup? |
| 17:00.36 | nevcairiel | skyriss isnt that hard |
| 17:00.37 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 17:01.55 | Fisker- | not with a hunter atleast :P |
| 17:02.01 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 17:02.15 | sbu | meh, still need elkano |
| 17:02.27 | nevcairiel | my heroic base group was holy priest, healing druid, prot warrior, mage, rogue |
| 17:02.36 | nevcairiel | we did like every heroic with that group |
| 17:03.24 | Saroz | Hjalte, warrior, priest, pala, shadow priest, warlock |
| 17:03.24 | Saroz | ftw |
| 17:04.02 | Saroz | was a breeze |
| 17:04.10 | Saroz | now we're haxing TK quest for the entire guild |
| 17:04.11 | Saroz | hihi |
| 17:04.46 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:04.57 | nevcairiel | our guildmates are too stupid to finish shattered halls |
| 17:05.00 | nevcairiel | or even shadow labs |
| 17:05.02 | Saroz | haha |
| 17:05.06 | Saroz | 2.1 nerfs gogo |
| 17:05.43 | nevcairiel | we have 23 people attuned to TK now |
| 17:05.50 | nevcairiel | and we killed magtheridon like 5 times |
| 17:05.59 | Fisker- | gonna clear arcatraz tomorrow and pull everyone through it |
| 17:06.18 | Fisker- | steamvaults shadowlabs and shattered halls shouldn't be that big of a problem |
| 17:06.27 | Saroz | you dont need SV |
| 17:06.33 | nevcairiel | you do |
| 17:06.34 | Saroz | ah wai |
| 17:06.36 | Saroz | you do |
| 17:06.36 | Saroz | yea |
| 17:06.41 | Saroz | was sooo long ago I did that :p |
| 17:06.51 | nevcairiel | i did all those heroics way back |
| 17:06.56 | nevcairiel | shatterd halls before it was nerfed |
| 17:07.00 | nevcairiel | we flasked to get through that |
| 17:07.08 | nevcairiel | and those stupid guildis dont even manage it now |
| 17:07.50 | sergio | SH heroic is about CC or double tanking adds |
| 17:07.59 | nevcairiel | we had one mage for cc |
| 17:08.01 | vodrin | 23 is enough for void reaver :) |
| 17:08.03 | nevcairiel | our rogue didnt even sap |
| 17:08.19 | nevcairiel | okey, it was before the prayer of mending nerf |
| 17:08.30 | nevcairiel | but then again, when PoM was nerfed, SH was nerfed too :P |
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| 17:11.07 | kenlyric | and you need priests, right? ;) |
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| 17:17.12 | Funkeh` | loes |
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| 17:18.22 | Funkeh` | omg the silence! |
| 17:19.16 | Fisker- | btw vhaarr |
| 17:19.21 | Fisker- | ign is hosting videos now as well |
| 17:22.56 | Punkie` | Funkeh`! I have SVN access! woooo |
| 17:23.17 | Funkeh` | christ save us |
| 17:23.44 | Punkie` | I uploaded me some addons! |
| 17:27.15 | ravagernl | people, is there any information about the minimap positions, ? |
| 17:27.25 | ravagernl | I mean the border texture |
| 17:41.41 | kenlyric | can we get a Punkie` filter for wau, please? ;) |
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| 17:55.49 | Punkie` | what did i do :( |
| 17:56.25 | Punkie` | kenlyric! |
| 17:56.35 | kenlyric | [13:22]<Punkie`>Funkeh`! I have SVN access! woooo [13:23]<Funkeh`>christ save us <Punkie`>I uploaded me some addons! |
| 17:56.56 | Punkie` | :( |
| 17:57.09 | Punkie` | my addons are small and minimal! :D |
| 17:57.10 | kenlyric | it was all in fun :) |
| 17:57.14 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r35871 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: |
| 17:57.14 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: 0.9 |
| 17:57.14 | CIA-23 | - fixed bug where items after the first in a list with a To: destination set would go to the default destination instead (To: field clears on send, so the destination variable was getting cleared, too) |
| 17:57.37 | Punkie` | kenlyric: are you a rogue?! |
| 17:57.46 | kenlyric | I am all classes. |
| 17:57.49 | FISKER_Q | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isbz7eXWEPM&mode=related&search= <- :OOOOOO |
| 17:57.52 | FISKER_Q | it got 12 honors |
| 17:57.55 | sedatedChipmunk | kenlyric: it's getting close =) |
| 17:57.59 | Punkie` | does your rogue have mutilate! |
| 17:58.06 | kenlyric | no, only level 20. |
| 17:58.11 | Punkie` | :( |
| 17:58.16 | Punkie` | you could try TickTo then! :D |
| 18:00.05 | kenlyric | ug, we need 10 char slots. |
| 18:00.18 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 18:02.23 | kenlyric | and I meant 11 |
| 18:02.33 | kenlyric | 9 classes, two banks... not enough space :( |
| 18:03.02 | Cryect | <Kalman|> Xuerian: "Show a man a lake and he's still going to starve." |
| 18:03.07 | Cryect | at least he won't be thirsty |
| 18:03.11 | Xuerian | XD |
| 18:11.38 | CIA-23 | 03ayunyan * r35872 10ChatAssist2/ (ChatAssist2.toc Core/ChatAssist.lua Readme.txt ReadmeJ.txt): |
| 18:11.38 | CIA-23 | ChatAssist2: |
| 18:11.39 | CIA-23 | - Change Version |
| 18:11.39 | CIA-23 | - Change Description |
| 18:11.39 | CIA-23 | - Update Readme.txt/ReadmeJ.txt |
| 18:12.07 | CIA-23 | 03ayunyan * r35873 10ChatAssist2Options/ (. ChatAssist2Options.toc Core/ChatAssistOptions.lua): |
| 18:12.07 | CIA-23 | ChatAssist2Options: |
| 18:12.07 | CIA-23 | - Change Version |
| 18:16.42 | CIA-23 | 03ayunyan * r35874 10/tags/ChatAssist2/: ChatAssist2:\n- creating tag directory. |
| 18:17.42 | CIA-23 | 03ayunyan * r35875 10/tags/ChatAssist2Options/: |
| 18:17.42 | CIA-23 | ChatAssist2Options: |
| 18:17.42 | CIA-23 | - creating tag directory. |
| 18:20.05 | kenlyric | dang, restfu isn't adjusting for when you're not resting. |
| 18:20.55 | CIA-23 | 03ayunyan 072.0.0 * r35876 10ChatAssist2/: |
| 18:20.55 | CIA-23 | ChatAssist2: |
| 18:20.55 | CIA-23 | - tagging for Ver 2.0.0 |
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| 18:23.08 | kenlyric | nvm, I'm dumb. |
| 18:23.15 | CIA-23 | 03ayunyan 072.0.0 * r35877 10ChatAssist2Options/: |
| 18:23.15 | CIA-23 | ChatAssist2Options: |
| 18:23.15 | CIA-23 | - tagging for Ver 2.0.0 |
| 18:26.34 | CIA-23 | 03skyboat * r35878 10FuBar_PuntFu/ (. FuBar_PuntFu.toc PuntFu.lua PuntFuLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 18:26.34 | CIA-23 | FuBar_PuntFu: Initial commit |
| 18:26.35 | CIA-23 | - Creates a list of buffs that you are missing in a tidy tooltip. |
| 18:27.31 | CIA-23 | 03tsigo * r35879 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: Surreptitiously Repairing Addons. |
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| 18:42.03 | yacoob | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6204903272262158881 is brilliant! (super mario bros) |
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| 18:45.32 | yacoob | I'd love to see WSG dubbed this way :D |
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| 18:50.05 | Termite | greetings all |
| 18:50.16 | Termite | Anyone seen Antiarc recently? |
| 18:50.30 | nevcairiel | not really |
| 18:50.31 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 18:51.15 | Termite | had a question about what data exactly the heroic key listing generator pulled |
| 18:51.44 | Termite | seeing as how the WoW Armory doesn't list what keys people have, I can only guess it's based on rep alone? |
| 18:52.47 | nevcairiel | yeah it gets the factions, if you are revered |
| 18:52.55 | nevcairiel | buying the key really shouldnt be a issue |
| 18:53.40 | Termite | what about The Violet Eye then? You don't get that from rep, you get it from a quest. Is that one based on the low amount of rep anyone would have at the time of that quest completion? |
| 18:54.07 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 18:54.20 | nevcairiel | maybe yeah, when you finish the quest, it gives you some start rep |
| 18:54.23 | kenlyric | you do a set number of quests to get keyed. |
| 18:54.27 | kenlyric | those give rep. |
| 18:54.37 | Termite | heh, well i figured the buying wouldn't be a problem. I just told the guild (when checking the list) to make sure the people they bring have bought the key first. That's all. |
| 18:54.42 | kenlyric | antiarch said explicitly that's how it's calculated. |
| 18:55.03 | nevcairiel | yeah, it just checks if your rep is above 1850 |
| 18:55.04 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 18:55.34 | Termite | got ya, that's what I figured. So, no matter what you do for Violet Eye rep, everyone should have their key by the time they get that much rep with Violet Eye. Sounds good. |
| 18:55.55 | kenlyric | there's nothing you can do for violet eye rep except those quests :) |
| 18:55.57 | nevcairiel | before you get the key, the only thing you can do, is get the key :P |
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| 18:56.38 | Termite | That's what I thought. You guys rock. Very knowledgeable |
| 18:56.48 | nevcairiel | \o/ |
| 18:56.49 | Termite | and I am not good at spelling ;) |
| 18:57.06 | nevcairiel | thats normal, this is irc |
| 18:57.06 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 18:57.17 | Termite | true dat! IRC FTW |
| 18:57.19 | kenlyric | you spelled knowledgeable right. |
| 18:57.30 | Termite | i did? AaaaaaMAZING! |
| 18:58.03 | Termite | What server is this crew from? |
| 19:01.37 | Termite | well, nice talking to you. tell Antiarc /thank and /thank you all as well. |
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| 19:06.26 | Tuller | so, if you had to configure stances for bongos, how would you do it :) |
| 19:08.01 | Xuerian | Tuller: The way it is now is pretty nice. I don't know how to do it, but if anything, it just needs to appear a little more user friendly so my guildmates dont' go ZOMG IT DOESNT DO STANCES, to the tune of my sarcastic stares. |
| 19:08.43 | Tuller | yeah I think it needs to be more directly in the right click menu of each bar, but that can be a pain if you're running a 120 button setup |
| 19:08.54 | Xuerian | On the bar would be good |
| 19:09.01 | Xuerian | "On stance X switch to number Z" |
| 19:09.13 | Tuller | essentially sliders like in bartender3 |
| 19:09.43 | Tuller | well, it has sliders :) |
| 19:09.55 | Xuerian | So long as it works :P |
| 19:09.59 | NightHawkTheSane | sliiiiiiiiiide |
| 19:10.04 | Tuller | electric |
| 19:11.11 | Tuller | so yeah, 120 button setups can use slash commands, /bob set stance cat 1-120 1 or something |
| 19:11.36 | Tuller | or click 120 buttons, which is not a normal case i would suppose |
| 19:12.21 | Saroz | does sproket still work? |
| 19:12.26 | Xuerian | No =( |
| 19:12.27 | NightHawkTheSane | nope. sadly :( |
| 19:12.42 | Saroz | heard someone say you could do something similar |
| 19:12.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i would give my left nut to whoever could make a version that works. |
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| 19:12.53 | Saroz | simply show/hide actionbars with a keybinding |
| 19:13.14 | ff29 | hey sup guys |
| 19:13.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Saroz: possibly, I think someone was working on something similar, but I honestly have no idea who, what, or how far they've gotten |
| 19:13.35 | ff29 | i got a question about the name of a mod |
| 19:14.14 | Xuerian | Henge |
| 19:14.25 | Xuerian | But I don't think it's very functional, from it's ui usage |
| 19:14.37 | ff29 | i have a question about a mod pictured in on the clearfont page |
| 19:14.44 | ff29 | i assume its by some1 in the ace mods group |
| 19:14.50 | ff29 | http://clearfont.co.uk/screenshots.html |
| 19:14.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Which? |
| 19:15.04 | ff29 | its teh mod that changes ur health and portrate to a circle thing |
| 19:15.15 | ff29 | oh hey kirk didnt know u where here |
| 19:15.20 | Xuerian | IceHud/something else? |
| 19:15.21 | Kirkburn|afk | =) |
| 19:15.25 | Kirkburn|afk | That was SinsMob |
| 19:15.28 | Kirkburn|afk | *Mod |
| 19:15.29 | ff29 | u have it pictured w/ that mage |
| 19:15.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Cute lil Draesyn |
| 19:15.52 | Kirkburn|afk | I think she's still in Redridge ;) |
| 19:16.10 | ff29 | lol |
| 19:16.27 | ff29 | where would i find sinsmod |
| 19:16.41 | ff29 | is it by ace or should i look elsewhere |
| 19:17.26 | Xuerian | It's not ace. |
| 19:17.34 | ff29 | ok |
| 19:17.41 | ff29 | so the name of the mod is sinsmod |
| 19:18.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye, think it was on worldofwar |
| 19:18.07 | Kirkburn|afk | This was 6 months ago or so |
| 19:18.09 | Xuerian | ff29: There's a link to it |
| 19:18.12 | Xuerian | with the name |
| 19:18.15 | Xuerian | ... below the screenshots |
| 19:18.25 | Xuerian | Even described as circular uf |
| 19:18.26 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 19:18.38 | Xuerian | bat. |
| 19:18.38 | ff29 | lol |
| 19:18.39 | Xuerian | Clue bat. |
| 19:18.44 | ff29 | omg |
| 19:18.56 | yacoob | clue vampire bat! |
| 19:19.00 | ff29 | i didnt even notice it was there |
| 19:19.08 | ff29 | b/c my computer was being retarded |
| 19:19.13 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 19:19.28 | yacoob | nobody expected the spanish inquisition! |
| 19:19.38 | Xuerian | dude. Not in public! |
| 19:20.03 | yacoob | perhaps it's not his head...? |
| 19:20.11 | ff29 | lol |
| 19:20.41 | NightHawkTheSane | no, I think yacoob's statement stands. maybe it's not his head. |
| 19:22.01 | ff29 | b/c the link doesnt work |
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| 19:23.38 | Xuerian | ff29: I don't think they've been updated to work with bc |
| 19:23.42 | Xuerian | possibly, though |
| 19:23.42 | Xuerian | http://dl.qj.net/World-of-Warcraft-SinsMod-Circular-Unit-Frames-Collection-and-Packs-PC-Gaming-MMORPG-World-of-Warcraft-UI-Mods/pg/12/fid/2125/catid/289 |
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| 19:25.13 | ff29 | lol |
| 19:25.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Looking for any help at all with DreamChat. I installed the latest version from /files, and all that it's managed to do so far is lock my movement keys and throw occasional lua errors. :/ |
| 19:26.01 | ff29 | so is fubar the new titan panel |
| 19:26.20 | Xuerian | That happened at 2.0 :p |
| 19:27.05 | NightHawkTheSane | sedatedChipmunk: ping |
| 19:27.06 | ff29 | whats the diff between fubar and titan |
| 19:27.17 | NightHawkTheSane | fubar's good, titans a piece of crap. |
| 19:27.38 | ff29 | lol |
| 19:29.13 | Cartas | Both are useless, IMO! ;) |
| 19:29.22 | Cryect | Agreed |
| 19:29.23 | Punkie`` | Kirkburn|afk! |
| 19:29.38 | Punkie`` | ClearFont1 is better than 2! |
| 19:29.38 | Kirkburn|afk | wot? |
| 19:31.16 | kergoth | Cryect, it'd be nice if recount's frame would remember it's position :\ |
| 19:31.56 | Cryect | haha you actually trying to use it for real at the moment? |
| 19:32.09 | Xuerian | nah, a thin pair of fubar panels make a nice little infobar. So long as you keep them small and only relevant stuff, like time and location :P |
| 19:32.50 | kergoth | just comparing its info to violation and such, monitoring progress |
| 19:33.04 | Cryect | its info is going to be off at the moment |
| 19:33.12 | Cryect | not tracking certain events like drain :-p |
| 19:33.25 | ff29 | kirk whats the diff between clearfont 1 and 2 |
| 19:33.32 | Cryect | though that only effects warlocks |
| 19:34.00 | CIA-23 | 03gamefaq * r35882 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-deDE.lua: Bartender3: deDE Update |
| 19:34.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Ones Ace and has options, the other doesn't |
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| 19:35.56 | ff29 | ic |
| 19:36.04 | ff29 | whats so special about it being ace |
| 19:36.32 | NightHawkTheSane | nothing, really |
| 19:36.37 | Cryect | Some people are antianything not ace |
| 19:36.41 | Cryect | not that it really means much often |
| 19:36.57 | Cryect | I mean if all you use Ace2 for is to print and have console commands |
| 19:36.57 | NightHawkTheSane | or rather, it's nothign special to -you- as an end user. |
| 19:37.06 | Cryect | you prolly could go without being ace easily enough |
| 19:37.24 | Cryect | it means something to the end user |
| 19:37.33 | Cryect | if the addon actually makes use of libraries like parserlib |
| 19:37.39 | Cryect | that parse once |
| 19:37.48 | Cryect | instead of 5 addon each parsing seperately |
| 19:38.45 | NightHawkTheSane | In the grand scheme of things, it's relatively minor,a nd 90% of end users wouldn't know the difference anyway |
| 19:39.02 | ScytheBlade1 | AKX, ping. Problems using DreamChat, pong back whenever you have a moment. |
| 19:39.11 | AKX | Pong. |
| 19:39.16 | ScytheBlade1 | That was fast. |
| 19:39.19 | AKX | Brilliant tech support. |
| 19:39.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd say so. |
| 19:39.43 | NightHawkTheSane | wouldve been faster if you had said lesbian |
| 19:39.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I install it, and my asdw navigation/movement keys stop working, and it throws lua errors at random times (seemingly) |
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| 19:39.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Using the version on /files |
| 19:40.28 | AKX | Mmm |
| 19:40.42 | AKX | Let's see. |
| 19:40.51 | AKX | Can you quote the error? |
| 19:40.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Gimme a moment and I'll paste you the error |
| 19:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, sec |
| 19:40.56 | AKX | =) |
| 19:41.44 | ScytheBlade1 | AKX, http://pastebin.ca/497323 |
| 19:42.55 | CIA-23 | 03gamefaq * r35883 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-deDE.lua: Bartender3: Another deDE Update |
| 19:44.08 | AKX | OK, ScytheBlade1, find the quoted line 378, replace the references to self nearby with "DreamChat" |
| 19:44.15 | AKX | if DreamChat.languageTranslators[DreamChat.language]~=nil then etc |
| 19:44.36 | AKX | No idea why it's "self" in the first place O.o |
| 19:45.16 | ScytheBlade1 | 379 too? |
| 19:45.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm assuming yes |
| 19:45.28 | AKX | Yeah |
| 19:45.49 | ScytheBlade1 | k, testing |
| 19:48.05 | ScytheBlade1 | AKX, looks like it's working.. |
| 19:48.13 | AKX | WASD d |
| 19:48.19 | AKX | * |
| 19:48.21 | AKX | WASD too? |
| 19:48.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Lemme test. |
| 19:48.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 19:48.36 | AKX | OK... |
| 19:48.48 | AKX | The only thing I can think that would cause WASD to fail is the editbox taking focus |
| 19:49.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I thought of that. Tried hitting random letters and then enter |
| 19:49.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It brought up the chat box in the default chat frames. |
| 19:49.49 | CIA-23 | 03akx * r35884 10DreamChat/Messaging.lua: DreamChat: Fixed strange bug with "self" where there should be no ego. Thanks ScytheBlade1 :) |
| 19:50.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, sure. :) |
| 19:50.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I saw DreamChat in a screenshot, and instantly knew I needed it to continue to survive. |
| 19:50.41 | AKX | :D |
| 19:50.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah-ha! |
| 19:50.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Now WASD is locked |
| 19:50.52 | AKX | What'd you do? |
| 19:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I toggled the minimize/dock/etc mode |
| 19:51.02 | AKX | Ergh |
| 19:51.08 | AKX | You did whatnow? |
| 19:51.13 | AKX | Clicked the minimizer button? |
| 19:51.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 19:51.27 | ScytheBlade1 | It seems that it did indeed grab focus on the edit box |
| 19:51.33 | ScytheBlade1 | But the edit box is... well... invisible. |
| 19:51.50 | AKX | Ehh. |
| 19:52.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Ironforge just got a big long ddddddddddddddddddddawsdawsdwasdwasssssssssssssddddwwwwwwwaaasdddd in /s |
| 19:52.23 | AKX | I'll try and look at it. |
| 19:52.26 | ScytheBlade1 | And I didn't see me typing it |
| 19:52.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll see if I can reproduce it 100% of the time. |
| 19:55.01 | AKX | Ah, ScytheBlade1, the editbox could be in some freaky place where you can't see it. |
| 19:55.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I think it is |
| 19:55.22 | ff29 | um what does dream chat do |
| 19:55.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm running a widescreen resolution, which may or may not be related |
| 19:55.42 | AKX | ScytheBlade1, try the "(Reset Editbox)" option in the main DC menu |
| 19:56.00 | AKX | That should reattach the editbox to the bottom of DreamChat1. |
| 19:56.41 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/ <-my site has the full GameMeca movie now btw |
| 19:56.49 | Fisker- | you can't scroll in it because of the streaming though : |
| 19:56.50 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:57.24 | ScytheBlade1 | AKX, any way to nuke the windows? I have three up now, one is hidden, and I just want the basic one back. |
| 19:58.02 | AKX | ScytheBlade1, resetting all your settings as well, /script DreamChatDB=nil;ReloadUI(); |
| 19:58.19 | ScytheBlade1 | AKX, that's fine. I haven't really messed with it at all :) |
| 19:58.22 | AKX | =) |
| 19:59.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, I need to nuke the default window placement to duplicate this. Sec. |
| 20:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | What would the frame name be? |
| 20:00.39 | AKX | DreamChat1 |
| 20:01.21 | CIA-23 | 03tsigo 07modules * r35885 10Cutup/Spam.lua: Cutup_Spam: Use the GlobalStrings error messages, derp. |
| 20:01.28 | ScytheBlade1 | There is it, I'm just blind. |
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| 20:02.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's it. The default is having the edit box appear directly below the screen. |
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| 20:03.06 | ScytheBlade1 | And for some reason, the edit box on DC only appears some of the time. Other, it snaps to the default chat window. |
| 20:03.36 | AKX | Yeah, well, ScytheBlade1, the default (0,0) placement for DC1 is retarded anyway, it's fixed in my working copy. |
| 20:03.53 | CIA-23 | 03skyboat * r35886 10Skinner/AddonSkins/DoTimer.lua: Skinner: Better skinning on-demand for DoTimer frames. |
| 20:04.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha. Fair enough. |
| 20:04.18 | CIA-23 | 03tsigo * r35887 10/branches/Cutup/ (Cutup.toc libs/ modules/TickToxin.lua): |
| 20:04.18 | CIA-23 | Cutup_TickToxin: |
| 20:04.18 | CIA-23 | - Switch to SharedMedia. |
| 20:04.18 | CIA-23 | - Use a bucket event for UNIT_AURA. |
| 20:04.18 | CIA-23 | - Bars now update in real-time with setting changes. |
| 20:04.18 | CIA-23 | - Removed libraries as OptDeps. |
| 20:05.06 | rubik | hmm.. the 'ignore below this level' option in SpamSentry doesn't work for me.. it never ignores level 1's |
| 20:05.09 | rubik | does it work for anyone? |
| 20:05.38 | CIA-23 | 03sbu * r35888 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2.lua: |
| 20:05.38 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 20:05.38 | CIA-23 | - fix typo in Babble-Mount |
| 20:07.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah-ha. It's a keybind to do the DC edit box. |
| 20:07.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That makes a lot more sense. |
| 20:08.41 | ScytheBlade1 | AKX, this doesn't have an option for the combatlog stuff, does it? |
| 20:09.02 | AKX | Nope, since other mods do that already. |
| 20:09.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Know any good ones that do that? |
| 20:10.05 | Fisker- | btw sylvanaar |
| 20:10.17 | Fisker- | you can't update addons without reloading the index it appears |
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| 20:19.40 | mjc | ey hC, how goes |
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| 20:24.10 | yacoob | haha :D |
| 20:24.26 | yacoob | people on the discordmods.com are still waiting for The Day! :D |
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| 20:25.45 | sbu | discord is alive? |
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| 20:26.34 | yacoob | no, very much dead |
| 20:26.41 | yacoob | but THEY ARE WAITING! |
| 20:26.43 | yacoob | Any minute now.... |
| 20:29.00 | art3mis | aaaaaaaaaanyyyyyyyy |
| 20:29.03 | art3mis | miiiiiiinnnnnn |
| 20:29.07 | art3mis | uuuuuuuuuuuute |
| 20:29.11 | art3mis | noooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww |
| 20:30.40 | Fisker- | DIE DIE DIE |
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| 20:33.05 | sbu | oh - they just released a new discord version |
| 20:33.06 | sbu | :p |
| 20:33.23 | Fisker- | lolwut? |
| 20:33.35 | sbu | well, no.. nothing happened |
| 20:33.35 | Fisker- | (site is horrible btw) |
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| 20:55.48 | harldephin | AKX: i've got a question regarding Chatr (if that's ok for you) |
| 20:56.01 | AKX | Sure |
| 20:56.09 | harldephin | k |
| 20:56.10 | AKX | It's my addon after all. |
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| 20:57.12 | harldephin | is there an identifier for the currently 'active' frame i can use with ChatrChanneler_Recv() to make it always output that message (from what event ever) to that frame (whatever the frame in the foreground currently is) ? |
| 20:58.09 | AKX | What do you mean with "foreground", in this case? |
| 20:58.31 | harldephin | the frame which tab is 'active' atm |
| 20:58.46 | AKX | Yes... Let's see |
| 20:59.23 | AKX | harldephin: getglobal("Chatr"..Chatr_DockSelected) |
| 21:01.29 | knarf- | is there any decent blp viewer around? :> |
| 21:02.35 | AKX | knarf-, mywarcraftstudio |
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| 21:04.25 | dodgizzla | AKX: Is there a way to create a DreamChat Window other than using the rightclick menu? |
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| 21:05.21 | Yasuo | hi |
| 21:05.30 | AKX | dodgizzla, /script DreamChat:CreateChatFrame("Foo") |
| 21:05.34 | dodgizzla | I see |
| 21:05.43 | dodgizzla | Somehow I lost all my windows :D |
| 21:05.52 | dodgizzla | And theres no menu in FuBar oder DeuceCommander :o |
| 21:06.03 | AKX | Because DreamChat's menus are created live |
| 21:06.19 | Yasuo | is teher a plugin for highlighting items in my bag wich can be used for red/yellow/green receipts? |
| 21:06.58 | dodgizzla | AKX: Yeah will try that in a minute :D |
| 21:07.06 | AKX | Oki, good luck. |
| 21:08.11 | knarf- | AKX meh does not seem to work properly :< |
| 21:08.16 | AKX | knarf-, dunno then :F |
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| 21:08.35 | knarf- | AKX nothing happens when I open a mpq file :) |
| 21:09.17 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r35889 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua QuoiDeNeuf.txt Todo.txt WhatsNew.txt): |
| 21:09.17 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 21:09.17 | CIA-23 | - The Icon wasn't set to gray if both the live-list and the MUFs were disable upon UI load. |
| 21:09.18 | CIA-23 | - Updated WhatsNew.txt and QuoiDeNeuf.txt for Beta 7 public release |
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| 21:14.30 | Saroz | why does decursive even exist anymore? |
| 21:15.10 | haste | because it's really hard to decurse |
| 21:15.11 | harldephin | because it works ? |
| 21:16.15 | Punkie` | What function does it actually do? |
| 21:17.04 | harldephin | unit frame mouse over decursing |
| 21:17.04 | harldephin | at least that's what i'm using it for |
| 21:17.21 | Punkie` | why dont you do that with your raid frames? |
| 21:17.45 | Punkie` | and do a macro of like |
| 21:17.54 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.55 | Punkie` | or something |
| 21:18.58 | harldephin | raid-what ? |
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| 21:19.34 | Punkie` | ? |
| 21:20.30 | NimbleRabit | Hi |
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| 21:21.36 | harldephin | i neither raid nor use raid.. frames.. |
| 21:22.12 | Yasuo | is teher a plugin for highlighting items in my bag wich can be used for red/yellow/green receipts? |
| 21:23.18 | yacoob | LOTRO is... weird. |
| 21:24.21 | Sole_ | screw lotro |
| 21:24.31 | Sole_ | the only turbine game I liked was asheron's call 1 |
| 21:24.36 | Sole_ | loved it actually |
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| 21:24.59 | dodgizzla | Hmpf getting a Prat error when enabling DreamChat :\ |
| 21:25.01 | Sole_ | AC2 was only good after about 6months - 1yr after release when they made some good changes |
| 21:25.28 | Sole_ | on another note, Louis Vuitton challenge, New Zealand is 4-1 on Spain WOOT |
| 21:25.43 | harldephin | AKX: simply changing a line to look like: .. ChatrChanneler_Recv(getglobal("Chatr"..Chatr_DockSelected)); .. :(instead of: .. ChatrChanneler_Recv("#channelxy"); ..) doesn't work though, does it ? |
| 21:25.51 | Sole_ | the america's cup is in our sight, just gotta get through Luna Rossa in the final |
| 21:25.54 | yacoob | I mean, it's so very similar to WoW... is there enough market to have second game? :) |
| 21:26.14 | art3mis | yacoob: different nerds |
| 21:26.31 | Sole_ | theyre using the LOTRO fanbase |
| 21:26.33 | art3mis | lotro is trying the same as d&d was to capture the nerds that sit in their basments playing dice games |
| 21:26.41 | Sole_ | ^ |
| 21:26.46 | NimbleRabit | Won't work |
| 21:26.50 | AKX | harldephin, it should work |
| 21:26.59 | art3mis | where as warcraft was a whole breed of comp game nerds |
| 21:27.02 | harldephin | hm |
| 21:27.10 | art3mis | and slowly caught thetrickle of d&d fans |
| 21:27.33 | sylvanaar | Prat and dreamchat compat is broken |
| 21:27.37 | sylvanaar | idk why |
| 21:27.44 | art3mis | ive said it before and ill say it again, i dont care how much they want someone needs to gather the old BlackIsles Team for Forgotten Realms MMO |
| 21:28.01 | art3mis | THAT would own all |
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| 21:28.36 | yacoob | art3mis, well, I'm pretty indefferent to both "worlds" so I guess the WoW sucked me dry out of my "will to play" :) |
| 21:28.52 | art3mis | ya know what you need yacoob? |
| 21:29.00 | art3mis | a single p[layer game ;P |
| 21:29.16 | yacoob | I circled through various mmorpgs recently, good idea is hardly present :) |
| 21:29.17 | art3mis | go play NeverWinter Nights |
| 21:29.28 | yacoob | art3mis, I have my GuildWars, it's close enough :) |
| 21:29.29 | art3mis | or Nox |
| 21:29.34 | art3mis | nonon |
| 21:29.39 | art3mis | if youhavent played either |
| 21:29.42 | art3mis | you're missing out |
| 21:29.47 | yacoob | (it's all Xuerian's fault :) |
| 21:29.51 | art3mis | hehe |
| 21:29.56 | art3mis | yeah he's a bastard aint he |
| 21:30.12 | yacoob | when we're at it, Eve Online would be The Game if it only wasn't so time-based |
| 21:30.12 | art3mis | neverwinter nights was the closest to real d&d and free form rpg you'll find |
| 21:30.42 | NimbleRabit | I tried a few other mmos recently |
| 21:30.53 | art3mis | martial heros is kinna fun though |
| 21:31.01 | yacoob | 40% of the time you spend you listen to the computer telling you that she jumps/warps, 40% looking at your ship circling an asteroid |
| 21:31.04 | art3mis | its a free one styled the same as guildwars |
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| 21:31.24 | yacoob | but hell, I played Privateer and Frontier a lot, and that's my cup of tea, if they cut on the timey crap :) |
| 21:31.25 | art3mis | knight online isnt too bad |
| 21:31.30 | art3mis | it's just super buggy |
| 21:31.42 | yacoob | City of Heroes. Now *that*'s the crap :) |
| 21:32.00 | art3mis | you put an extra "the" in there ;P |
| 21:32.28 | art3mis | im so bored of wow these days though |
| 21:32.48 | yacoob | art3mis, I switched to GuildWars, it's fit for me :) |
| 21:32.48 | art3mis | they need to make more quests |
| 21:32.55 | art3mis | i didnt like guildwars |
| 21:33.08 | art3mis | you can't jump ;P |
| 21:33.15 | Sole_ | why you bored of WoW? |
| 21:33.23 | Sole_ | arena is always fun |
| 21:33.23 | art3mis | well i mainly play it solo |
| 21:33.33 | Sole_ | thats understandable then |
| 21:33.34 | kenlyric | arena is always fun for you. |
| 21:33.36 | art3mis | i mean my guild and stuff does end game but i prefer questing and such |
| 21:33.52 | Thrae | WoW needs to implement a ladder PvP system without "item grinds". |
| 21:33.53 | Sole_ | find a buddy who plays your times and try some 2v2 arena |
| 21:33.56 | art3mis | and arena gets tired after a while |
| 21:34.00 | Sole_ | its revitilzating |
| 21:34.01 | yacoob | art3mis, yeah, it has its drawbacks, but I just ignored it :) |
| 21:34.08 | kenlyric | wow is actually more friendly to solo play than most MMOs, but yeah, there's only so many times you can do the same quests. |
| 21:34.30 | art3mis | nods if they quests changed i'd be more inclicned to play another character |
| 21:34.42 | kenlyric | just make sure play both factions. |
| 21:34.42 | art3mis | but as it stands i dread going through those same tired bored quests again |
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| 21:35.00 | art3mis | i did blood elf cuz at least i had 20 levels of new quests |
| 21:35.03 | NimbleRabit | WoW has downfalls, but man when I tried some other games they were TERRIBLE compared to it |
| 21:35.09 | Thrae | WoW's quest system was totally innovative and way different then any other Graphical MMO I've played before. |
| 21:35.15 | theoddone33 | I'm sitting at level 54, dreading doing 55-70 again :( |
| 21:35.15 | art3mis | oh i dont doubt or question its good |
| 21:35.23 | art3mis | it just plateuas |
| 21:35.42 | kenlyric | try playing other mmos, and you find yourself *having* to find groups after the noob levels. Sure, grouping is fun, but when you have to constantly do it, it can get annoying. |
| 21:35.51 | art3mis | do em once and it's all mostly the same every time after that you'd be content to just buy another class at 70 instead of do the quests |
| 21:35.54 | NimbleRabit | I'd be happy if somebody could actually create a game better just so I could try new content |
| 21:36.13 | art3mis | nimble try martial heroes |
| 21:36.15 | NimbleRabit | or even as good |
| 21:36.31 | art3mis | its a free one |
| 21:36.42 | Thrae | In the upcoming Warhammer, supposedly a lot of quests will be focused on PvP. |
| 21:36.45 | NimbleRabit | why do I have a feeling it's going to be bad? T_T |
| 21:36.49 | yacoob | Thrae, what's so innovative in WoW's quest system? |
| 21:36.56 | art3mis | nah its pretty decent for a free one |
| 21:37.03 | yacoob | courier, collect, kill. |
| 21:37.04 | art3mis | think guildwars that doesnt suck ;P |
| 21:37.13 | yacoob | *sometimes* something different |
| 21:37.23 | art3mis | all the outland quests are great |
| 21:37.24 | kenlyric | you can get 1-70 without doing instances and without running out of quests to do. That's completely innovative in the MMO world. |
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| 21:37.29 | NimbleRabit | Somebody told me the same about Silk Road so I tried it |
| 21:37.31 | NimbleRabit | *shudder* |
| 21:37.39 | yacoob | art3mis, well, I find GW nice, with the main storyline especially |
| 21:37.39 | art3mis | but i kind of wish that they had fleshed out the 1-60 content a bit for questig and such |
| 21:38.04 | yacoob | but to each his own I guess :D |
| 21:38.07 | theoddone33 | guidl wars really intrigues me |
| 21:38.08 | art3mis | yeah |
| 21:38.15 | kenlyric | art3mis: it's pretty fleshed out. People just don't know how to do it. |
| 21:38.30 | art3mis | kenlyric: no i mean fleshed out in the sense that they added new quests |
| 21:38.32 | Sole_ | theoddone33: dreading 55-70!? I LOVED 60-70 |
| 21:38.32 | kenlyric | they stick to one path, rather than moving between zones. |
| 21:38.43 | art3mis | its hard to define |
| 21:38.50 | Thrae | yacoob: You can basically solo quest to 70, the quests are relevant, solo quests are epic compared to other games, the quests are made in such a way that grinding is not required at all. |
| 21:38.50 | theoddone33 | dreading 55-60 most of all |
| 21:38.55 | NimbleRabit | I played guild wars for a while |
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| 21:38.56 | Sole_ | theoddone33: look on the bright side of things, instead of how long its gonna take (didnt take long at all) |
| 21:38.57 | NimbleRabit | it's...not very fun |
| 21:39.02 | Daemona | whooops wrong windox :X |
| 21:39.11 | theoddone33 | Sole_: getting to 60 will take the most time |
| 21:39.17 | art3mis | i havent done the 1-20 undead quests in about 2 years but i could go do them now and remember each and everytone so the exploring par is kind of dead |
| 21:39.19 | theoddone33 | I lose motivation in the bottom 6 levels of every 10 |
| 21:39.21 | Sole_ | 55-60 I can understand, but tbh I enjoy 50-60 a hell of a lot more than 40-50 |
| 21:39.24 | NimbleRabit | theoddone33: 55-60 is easy |
| 21:39.31 | NimbleRabit | winterspring is amazing |
| 21:39.34 | Sole_ | theoddone: www.wow-pro.com |
| 21:39.35 | kenlyric | art3mis: having horrible memory helps :) |
| 21:39.47 | Sole_ | Jame's guides will help you if youre in trouble :P |
| 21:39.48 | art3mis | kenlyric: hehe yeah curse my memory! |
| 21:39.50 | Thrae | World of Warcraft's storyline is only uninteresting because a lot of it was already known before the game came out, from Blizzard's previous games and books. |
| 21:39.56 | yacoob | Thrae, I don't find it innovative, sorry :> |
| 21:40.01 | NimbleRabit | It is |
| 21:40.09 | theoddone33 | I was following joanna's guide until un'goro |
| 21:40.10 | yacoob | but it's good, agreed, grind is bad. |
| 21:40.11 | kenlyric | Thrae: well, only if you've read those :) |
| 21:40.15 | theoddone33 | at which point I couldn't stand un'goro |
| 21:40.18 | Thrae | yacoob: Name one game which includes all of those elements. |
| 21:40.23 | NimbleRabit | I loved un'goro |
| 21:40.25 | NimbleRabit | fun zone |
| 21:40.30 | theoddone33 | I loved it the first time around too |
| 21:40.31 | art3mis | ungoro is neat |
| 21:40.38 | Thrae | kenlyric: Yeah, but the Warcraft games in particular were very popular, and the single-player campaigns a hell of a lot of fun ;) |
| 21:40.41 | kenlyric | I find warcraft's storyline very interesting, which is what keeps me coming to it. It's deep and detailed, but I don't know any of the background personally. |
| 21:40.46 | art3mis | or as i like to call it the nintendo zone |
| 21:40.48 | Kaydeethree | stealth 10-story ravasaurs are not |
| 21:41.02 | NimbleRabit | they give you devilsaur leather |
| 21:41.07 | art3mis | raptors == time killers |
| 21:41.16 | art3mis | blaze runner |
| 21:41.17 | Sole_ | warcraft story is pretty sweet |
| 21:41.19 | art3mis | monkeys that drop barrels |
| 21:41.26 | NimbleRabit | theoddone33: I liked it every time around lol |
| 21:41.28 | art3mis | linkin ;P |
| 21:41.46 | kenlyric | i used the levelling guides for my priest, and now my hunter and my undead warlock. The best feature is not running out of quests so you have to grind. |
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| 21:42.16 | yacoob | Thrae, ...guildwars? :) |
| 21:42.22 | theoddone33 | yeah this leveling guide looks nice |
| 21:42.24 | kenlyric | one of the issues I have with LotRo is that i know the backstory too well, the quests themselves just seem kinda shallow on top of that. |
| 21:42.29 | theoddone33 | I may go back and do the un'goro sections |
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| 21:42.35 | theoddone33 | just to get me over this hump |
| 21:42.38 | Thrae | Even after I've said all that about quests, personally, I'd rather instance grind, because I love playing a Druid in groups. |
| 21:42.50 | yacoob | kenlyric, that's the common problem with rpg in general |
| 21:43.13 | art3mis | i know what bugs me most about the questing in the low levels |
| 21:43.13 | art3mis | the run here then run over there then run to the other continent |
| 21:43.13 | art3mis | too much of my time is spent running around |
| 21:43.18 | yacoob | kenlyric, the worlds get crowded with super heroes, brave knights, king's daughters, daemons, vampires.... :) |
| 21:43.29 | yacoob | and there's little place for common folk :) |
| 21:43.38 | yacoob | and if there is - it's not interesting! :D |
| 21:43.43 | kenlyric | it's hard to balance between have no backstory at all, and a backstory which is too well known. |
| 21:43.54 | Thrae | yacoob: I wouldn't say that about Guild Wars. I think you're just a Guild Wars fanatic ;) |
| 21:44.04 | kenlyric | art3mis: properly planned out, you do very little unnecessary running. |
| 21:44.08 | yacoob | Thrae, far from that, but let's analyze it. |
| 21:44.26 | kenlyric | it's just, the quests don't necessarily lead themselves to proper planning :) |
| 21:44.34 | yacoob | can solo? yup, you don't need other players even if you need a team. |
| 21:45.49 | yacoob | are releveant? well, if you take into consideration instanced world, they are even more than in wow - you can change a location permanently |
| 21:45.49 | yacoob | (and of course there's main story line, which you're going by) |
| 21:45.57 | Thorgard | Guild Wars never did anything for me. Felt way too detached and I ended up getting mucho bored. |
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| 21:46.24 | yacoob | 'epic compared to other games' - I'd say it's subjective, if you precise on that... |
| 21:46.40 | NimbleRabit | didn't guild wars and wow come out around the same times |
| 21:46.44 | yacoob | grinding not required? - yup. |
| 21:46.51 | Thrae | Yeah, I'd have to include that in WoW, even when you're solo'ing, you still meet a good numeber of other players, and can team up for a little bit. |
| 21:47.18 | kenlyric | random temporary teamups are the only kind of grouping I really like :) |
| 21:47.19 | yacoob | what's good in GW (for me) is that it's more "casual player friendly" |
| 21:47.20 | Thorgard | Wait, does that mean 'grinding is required' in WoW? ;P |
| 21:47.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Punkie`, that's novel :P "Fixed readability issues without ClearFont" |
| 21:47.33 | Saroz | WoW = only grinding |
| 21:47.35 | yacoob | Thorgard, no, how did you worked it out? :) |
| 21:47.41 | Saroz | nothing else |
| 21:47.41 | kenlyric | because at those times you don't really require the other people to be awesome, like you want in endgame stuff. |
| 21:47.43 | yacoob | 1-70 it is not |
| 21:47.49 | Saroz | it is |
| 21:47.52 | Saroz | you grind levels |
| 21:47.53 | kenlyric | you don't ever have to grind in WoW. |
| 21:47.55 | Saroz | you grind epics |
| 21:47.57 | yacoob | Saroz, nah. |
| 21:48.00 | Thrae | yacoob: How is WoW not "casual player friendly"? WoW was built around the casual player. |
| 21:48.01 | kenlyric | you can quest the entire way through. |
| 21:48.17 | Thrae | yacoob: That's where hardcore players and PvP'rs in particular always complain about. |
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| 21:49.02 | yacoob | Thrae, well, that's what's subjective here - GW suited me better. I'm bored with raiding, two visits to an instance is enough for me |
| 21:49.10 | yacoob | reputation farming is ugh |
| 21:49.24 | NimbleRabit | yacoob: guild wars questing isn't even very beneficial. Quests give terrible XP |
| 21:49.36 | Kilroo | GPotato. |
| 21:49.40 | theoddone33 | level cap is like 20 right? |
| 21:49.46 | yacoob | pvp is what's left, but it's no fun being squished with pve weapons |
| 21:50.01 | sbu | lol? |
| 21:50.03 | Thorgard | yacoob, that's why you get PvP weapons. ;P |
| 21:50.07 | yacoob | theoddone33, yup, and you hit that at the beginning of the storyline |
| 21:50.10 | sbu | pvp weaps > pve :/ |
| 21:50.20 | Kilroo | pve > pvp |
| 21:50.29 | yacoob | Thorgard, in order to get those, one must farm the rep, thankyouverymuch :) |
| 21:50.30 | NimbleRabit | they are buffing pve weapons next patch |
| 21:50.33 | NimbleRabit | they will be about equal |
| 21:50.35 | yacoob | or to put it other way round |
| 21:50.42 | yacoob | wow is character-centric |
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| 21:50.46 | yacoob | gw is player-centric |
| 21:51.10 | Kilroo | How about Rappelz? |
| 21:51.13 | sbu | wah |
| 21:51.18 | NimbleRabit | you don't get pvp weapons with "rep" |
| 21:51.18 | sbu | rappelz is evil |
| 21:51.24 | Kilroo | Is it? |
| 21:51.27 | sbu | it is |
| 21:51.28 | Kilroo | Good to know. |
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| 21:51.38 | Thrae | Rep Farming didn't really exist in early WoW. |
| 21:51.39 | sbu | its the same, over and over again... |
| 21:51.46 | sbu | you have 1 'town' and 4 directions to go to |
| 21:51.51 | Kilroo | I'll probably give it a try anyhow. |
| 21:51.52 | yacoob | NimbleRabit, s/rep/large amount of sumthigns you need to carefully gather over longer time/ |
| 21:51.55 | sbu | quests is killing mobs in every direction |
| 21:51.58 | kenlyric | wow needs to be more account-centric :) |
| 21:52.05 | sbu | until you get to the next area |
| 21:52.14 | kenlyric | let your alts interact in some ways. |
| 21:52.26 | Thrae | yacoob: The original argument was "Is WoW's questing system innovative?" Well, logically, nothing is innovative forever. Eventually, something will take what works and make it better for more profit. |
| 21:52.32 | NimbleRabit | yacoob: I joined an arena team and pvp'd (was fun) than got my weapons over a couple weeks (only played about 40 games, wasn't a grind) |
| 21:52.34 | kenlyric | and, some kind of variety.. everything is the same in wow, everything stays the same in wow. |
| 21:52.35 | Thrae | yacoob: WoW did it before GW. That's what makes WoW innovative. |
| 21:52.42 | sbu | oh and yoou have only ~10 quests / area, if you dont have enough xp then - they are repeatable |
| 21:52.54 | kenlyric | sbu: yuck. |
| 21:52.55 | yacoob | kenlyric, the problem I had was "hm, how about trying a hunter... uh, but I'd need to level him up to 70... boring... *snooore" |
| 21:53.10 | Kilroo | Until I can afford more time on my WoW account, I'm probably going to give some of the free MMO's a try. Rappelz, Corum, Silk Road, 9 Dragons, and so forth. |
| 21:53.15 | kenlyric | doing a quest once is fun, doing it 10 times is... shudder |
| 21:53.22 | yacoob | Thrae, well, it's hard to me to compare wow to anything else (lineage, ultima, ko, you name it) - never played anything else :) |
| 21:53.29 | Kilroo | Finding out why each one sucks should entertain me for a couple days each. |
| 21:53.36 | yacoob | so we can agree on your word, innovative :) |
| 21:53.39 | kenlyric | yacoob: well, you learn how to play the hunter as you level him up :) |
| 21:53.51 | Thrae | Why do you NEED to level a character in 70 in order to "have fun"? |
| 21:53.52 | NimbleRabit | I'd rather have to level up to 70 than have max level mean basically nothing |
| 21:54.07 | Thrae | Currently almost all MMORPGs are end-game heavy, that's nothing new. |
| 21:54.17 | yacoob | kenlyric, obviously. Sadly, my amount of free time disallows such experiments :) |
| 21:54.21 | Thrae | But I would say WoW caters MORE to the low and middle then most other MMORPGs. |
| 21:54.29 | Kilroo | You don't need level 70 to have fun in my opinion. |
| 21:54.33 | NimbleRabit | agreed |
| 21:54.36 | Kilroo | I'm at 45 and I've loved most of it. |
| 21:54.45 | NimbleRabit | I'm leveling a mage right now and I'm only 18 and already enjoying it |
| 21:54.49 | Thrae | Most of the people I know had -more- fun leveling up to 70 then starting raiding. Some don't raid at all. |
| 21:54.53 | kenlyric | my lock is 25 and it's a lot of fun, since i've never been this far on horde side. |
| 21:54.53 | NimbleRabit | doing bg's quite a bit as well as some light questing |
| 21:55.04 | Kilroo | What makes me shudder is the idea of starting over. |
| 21:55.06 | yacoob | in GW, I can create pvp-only character, and even if I don't have "good skills" unlocked for this class, I can have some fun right away |
| 21:55.10 | sbu | kenlyric: well, doesnt matter if its some repetition or not - in next area its again: kill 10 small xx, then kill 10 normal xx, then kill 10 big xx :p |
| 21:55.23 | Kilroo | Yacoob: that sounds like the best way to have no fun at all for me. |
| 21:55.27 | Xuerian | Guildwars reigns in instant fun. |
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| 21:55.29 | yacoob | Kilroo, how come? |
| 21:55.45 | yacoob | if I find it to be fun, I'd spend some more time |
| 21:55.50 | Xuerian | Kilroo: GW is more based on player strategy and skill than time accumulatiohn |
| 21:55.59 | yacoob | but I don't need to spend a lot of time just to test if it's fun :) |
| 21:56.11 | Thrae | yacoob: PvE and PvP are two totally seperate discussions on the effectiveness of a MMORPG. As WoW has shown, most players want effective PvE before they want effective PvP. |
| 21:56.12 | Kilroo | yacoob: PVP is almost entirely opposed to what I want out of the game. |
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| 21:56.16 | yacoob | and yes, repeating "content" makes me want to bite NPC's heads off :) |
| 21:56.35 | Thrae | yacoob: Anyway, most of the players I know had a blast in the low level WSG and AB brackets. |
| 21:56.38 | NimbleRabit | GW has some good aspects yeah |
| 21:56.42 | yacoob | Thrae, me too :) |
| 21:56.44 | NimbleRabit | but overall it's just not very fun for me personally |
| 21:56.45 | Thrae | Even if they lost horribly to twinks some of the time. |
| 21:56.54 | theoddone33 | WoW is pretty grim |
| 21:57.01 | yacoob | still have some lock stuck at 38, very fun experience :) |
| 21:57.06 | Seyken | I heard PvP in wow isn't well done (i play only wow and made 10 => 60 with pvp repetite quest) |
| 21:57.07 | theoddone33 | makes me think RPers have to be pretty screwed in the head |
| 21:57.21 | Thrae | My Druid is stuck at Level 59 because I love PvP more then I love PvE, personally. |
| 21:57.27 | NimbleRabit | theoddone33: hey now I play on an rp server |
| 21:57.38 | Thrae | OK, I love PvE for casual and PvP for adreline-pumping madness. |
| 21:57.39 | theoddone33 | yeah well |
| 21:57.49 | theoddone33 | I mean there's enough quests about cutting off people's hands and heads and stuff |
| 21:57.51 | Seyken | (repetitive) it helps at playing the class i think, in pve it is "easy" |
| 21:57.59 | theoddone33 | I doubt anyone takes it seriously, but it's kind of freaky |
| 21:58.04 | NimbleRabit | yeah |
| 21:58.06 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 21:58.07 | yacoob | thing is, you can play pvp aspect of GW just like you play lots of FPSes |
| 21:58.08 | Thrae | Yeah, PvE in WoW is way easy. |
| 21:58.12 | Seyken | Thrae:You are a good druid :p |
| 21:58.14 | yacoob | (and a lot of people do it that way :) |
| 21:58.24 | yacoob | btw |
| 21:58.34 | yacoob | have you seen the discussion on /. about wow? :) |
| 21:58.39 | NimbleRabit | no |
| 21:58.49 | theoddone33 | yeah that's what I want out of GW |
| 21:59.01 | theoddone33 | good PVP without 70 day time committment |
| 21:59.07 | Kaydeethree | ? last thing I've seen about blizzard on /. was the sc2 announcement |
| 21:59.11 | Thrae | yacoob: I don't know what MMORPGs you've played, but one of the things that appeal to people about WoW is that its PvE, even end-game, is exponentionally easier then previous games. |
| 21:59.26 | yacoob | it is. |
| 21:59.29 | NimbleRabit | guildwards appeals to different people as all |
| 21:59.35 | NimbleRabit | there's no problem with that |
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| 21:59.41 | yacoob | and that was the point of the discussion more or less |
| 21:59.44 | yacoob | "WoW is easy" |
| 21:59.49 | yacoob | lemme look it up |
| 22:00.01 | Seyken | but there are a lot of people who don't play their class at a "top" level :/ |
| 22:00.07 | Thrae | yacoob: It wasn't that the previous games had "challenges", they just had frustrating situations and sometimes "bug features" which were just added as pure timesinks. |
| 22:00.20 | NimbleRabit | Seyken: btw I think WoW pvp is done quite well |
| 22:00.21 | Facktotum | thrae: how many wow players get to see end game content? |
| 22:00.48 | NimbleRabit | with karazahn being counted as endgame now? |
| 22:00.49 | Seyken | NimbleRabit: Me too :D R10 before 2.00 patch |
| 22:00.52 | yacoob | http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/07/1451253 |
| 22:00.53 | NimbleRabit | a much bigger % than before |
| 22:01.00 | Thrae | NimbleRabit: Nah, DAoC blew it out of the water. |
| 22:01.08 | Seyken | NimbleRabit: but since 2.00, pvp is less interesting, i mean bg, arena are awesome |
| 22:01.12 | Thrae | NimbleRabit: Although to WoW's defense, they stole about 90% of their design from DAoC ;) |
| 22:01.13 | Kilroo | Basically, the whole point of WoW...for me...is 5-man instance runs, teaming up to work on quests, and the occasional farming for things I need, such as the right leather for a new kind of armor. PvP is, at best, the occasional duel just to see how it goes, although the threat involved in having to be careful not to get too close to the other faction's cities is kinda fun sometimes. |
| 22:01.16 | Kaydeethree | yac; heh at the sub-headline for that |
| 22:01.21 | Kaydeethree | <3 SotC |
| 22:01.32 | NimbleRabit | Seyken: I disagree, arena made it better than it has ever been |
| 22:01.37 | yacoob | :) |
| 22:01.38 | Kilroo | I just don't think it's a good engine for PVP. |
| 22:01.55 | yacoob | the problem with PvE is that it "ends" at some point in time |
| 22:01.55 | NimbleRabit | Thrae: I played DAoC a little, it seemed good but hard to get used too. I enjoy WoW's pvp a lot more |
| 22:02.06 | kenlyric | yacoob: it does? |
| 22:02.07 | kenlyric | I wish. |
| 22:02.21 | yacoob | kenlyric, after some time it's hard to come up with fresh idea |
| 22:02.26 | NimbleRabit | well at least it hasn't ended yet |
| 22:02.29 | Thrae | Facktotum: Counting Expansion and later WoW, where 5 and 10-man instances give rewards comparable to early WoW end-game? |
| 22:02.31 | Seyken | IMO PvE doesn't really help you to master your class, pvp helps |
| 22:02.46 | kenlyric | well, by that end yeah, it ended around Naxx. |
| 22:02.52 | yacoob | chess event and play in Kharazan are good examples of fresh ideas |
| 22:02.53 | kenlyric | Seyken: depends on what you mean by master. |
| 22:03.08 | NimbleRabit | chess event is so dumb |
| 22:03.12 | kenlyric | no, Caverns of Time is example of fresh ideas. And that's it. |
| 22:03.13 | Seyken | kenlyric: leanr your own spells and use all of them to survive :d |
| 22:03.20 | Thrae | Seyken: I would say that PvP brings out the full potenial of a class, which is not needed in PvE. A Feral Druid mostly does damage, a Resto. Druid mostly heals, etc. PvP makes you far more versatile because you have no template to go on. |
| 22:03.31 | yacoob | but it's different from 'slash&hack through those minions of evil boss to get to the evil boss himself!" |
| 22:03.37 | yacoob | (mismatched ", coredump :) |
| 22:04.10 | NimbleRabit | if you consider "stop here and jack around for 5 minutes by slash&hacking with this chess guy" |
| 22:04.11 | NimbleRabit | different |
| 22:04.16 | kenlyric | pvp teaches you how to move :) |
| 22:04.26 | Seyken | Thrae: i thnik PvE reduces the way of playing, tanks dps and healers |
| 22:04.29 | Xuerian | The viable competition to wow at the moment is seriously lacking in at least one way every time |
| 22:04.33 | Kaydeethree | c'thun teaches you how to move |
| 22:04.35 | Facktotum | thrae: i mean end game bosses in ssc,tk,bt,hyjal |
| 22:04.43 | Thrae | NimbleRabit: Actually, DAoC was pretty much the same as WoW. Your PvP efforts earned you "Realm Points" where you can buy abilities which help in both PvP and PvE. As well as massive "Realm vs Realm" World PvP, DAoC also, before WoW, implemented something called "Battlegrounds" where the three factions meet to battle it out royale-style for points of capture. |
| 22:04.45 | Kaydeethree | most of naxx teaches you how to move |
| 22:04.58 | Thrae | Seyken: Right. |
| 22:05.00 | Seyken | Thrae: a tank is a war and nothing else, a priest heals, and mage and locks damage that's all |
| 22:05.08 | NimbleRabit | Thrae: I mean the actual combat system |
| 22:05.12 | kenlyric | Kaydeethree: right, and a lot of people spent time in naxx. |
| 22:05.27 | Kaydeethree | I'm just biased as a raider |
| 22:05.32 | NimbleRabit | I do both =D |
| 22:05.38 | kenlyric | karazhan is quite a shock for people who have never done aq40 or naxx. |
| 22:05.39 | yacoob | ...and in GW you have more choices for your character 8) |
| 22:05.45 | yacoob | (ok, ok, I'm shutting up! :) |
| 22:05.58 | Thrae | Seyken: Well, I refuse to join any guild that requires a strict standard. You can mix it up fine if everyone's skilled. A well-geared Druid tanking is viable, people just don't want to put forthe the effort. Kinda funny coming from the same people that complain about it "being too easy". |
| 22:06.05 | NimbleRabit | I would have loved GW if I hadn't seen WoW |
| 22:06.13 | yacoob | ah, one more thing |
| 22:06.16 | Xuerian | GW is fun, but lacking addons and jumping, plus overdone instancing, ends up in not so good |
| 22:06.23 | NimbleRabit | yeah |
| 22:06.27 | Thrae | yacoob: WoW consolidated class ideas, and people seemed to enjoy that. |
| 22:06.30 | sbu | isnt GW all-instanced? |
| 22:06.33 | NimbleRabit | once you've played WoW (for most people) GW got kind of boring |
| 22:06.34 | Xuerian | sbu: yes |
| 22:06.35 | kenlyric | Thrae: wtb guild where everyone is skilled. |
| 22:06.36 | Kaydeethree | meh. we're tied for #3 on the server and we've got just about every offspec but beastmastery hunters |
| 22:06.38 | Xuerian | Which is good, and bad |
| 22:06.45 | yacoob | when I look at the stats of 70s nowadays, I see there was some... dragonballization being done :) |
| 22:06.50 | NimbleRabit | Kaydeethree: lol bm hunters |
| 22:06.52 | kenlyric | one thing I noticed in the EQ trial, there are a lot of damn classes. |
| 22:06.57 | Thrae | NimbleRabit: WoW classes are more versatile because they were consolidated. |
| 22:07.01 | vodrin | bm hunters are good dps so stop hating |
| 22:07.03 | Cryect | Xuerian: What game besides WoW is looking to really have addons though :-/ |
| 22:07.11 | yacoob | that means, you can spot "good players" by "omg, 20kHP!" |
| 22:07.28 | NimbleRabit | Thrae: it was the actual system, abilities, etc. that was kind of complicated for me having not actually played except for at a friends house |
| 22:07.29 | Seyken | kenlyric: Nihilum is composed of skilled or FUll T5 players? |
| 22:07.29 | Xuerian | Cryect: Almost none, and it's a crying shame |
| 22:07.35 | yacoob | Thrae, I always enjoyed mixups, like thief with magical skills :) |
| 22:07.35 | Thrae | All of these MMORPGs came from the old D&D, which had classes very specialized. |
| 22:07.38 | NimbleRabit | Thrae: when I got into WoW it was just way more "accessible" |
| 22:07.44 | kenlyric | Seyken: yeah, and i"m not in nihilum, so, WTB |
| 22:07.46 | vodrin | i liked the classes in GW |
| 22:07.55 | vodrin | and the 2 'professions' per chr |
| 22:08.03 | Cryect | Shrug Paladins in D&D weren't that specialized :-p |
| 22:08.03 | Xuerian | It'll be fun to see EVE when first persons and stations come into play |
| 22:08.05 | vodrin | with only able to use epic skills from your main profession |
| 22:08.14 | yacoob | also, when you see rogue coming your way (well, IF :) you more or less know what he's going to hit you with |
| 22:08.25 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: eve is to slow |
| 22:08.30 | yacoob | when you see ritualist coming at you, you really *don't know* what to expect :) |
| 22:08.31 | Thrae | NimbleRabit: Yeah, but I bet you don't know that Casters and other Ranged Attackers get bonus range from higher ground, so they easily defend points from above. How cool would that be? |
| 22:08.40 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: You didn't get into corp fights, did you? |
| 22:08.45 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: Or races. |
| 22:08.58 | yacoob | Xuerian, stations? first person? |
| 22:08.59 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: Or 0.0 |
| 22:09.02 | Xuerian | yacoob: Yes |
| 22:09.07 | yacoob | sounds yum. |
| 22:09.08 | NimbleRabit | no, I only dabbled. Can't be wasting money on a game I don't want to play |
| 22:09.10 | Xuerian | Indeed |
| 22:09.12 | Kalman| | Xuerian: Kinda hard to get into those early on. It just develops very slowly. |
| 22:09.16 | yacoob | ...but why does it have to be time based.... O_o |
| 22:09.19 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Yes indeed it does |
| 22:09.25 | Thrae | One of the main problems, and also main draws, of WoW PvP is that it has a "solo" mentality. |
| 22:09.30 | Xuerian | yacoob: EVE is a game you can walk away from for a while and not be penalized |
| 22:09.42 | NimbleRabit | when I tried out WoW I got into it right away, that's why I started and it was good enough to keep me |
| 22:09.47 | yacoob | Xuerian, scroll back, I put my problem with eve here... :) |
| 22:09.53 | Thrae | Because the classes are so versatile, everyone thinks they are superheroes and try to do everything. |
| 22:10.34 | yacoob | Xuerian, I love the setting, but I guess map-travelling (which would made no sense in Eve) from GW spoilt me :D |
| 22:10.37 | Thrae | In DAoC, fortresses were fiercly defending, meaning your first point of action was teleporting / sneaking into the base and taking out the player defenders so the seigers outside the fortress wouldn't be killed. |
| 22:10.46 | Thrae | s/defending/defended/ |
| 22:11.16 | Cryect | Eve reminded me of an unfun version of Privateer tried it a few times but never could really get into it |
| 22:11.28 | yacoob | Thrae, what's worse, with enough gear difference, happy-bashing good equipped PUG will overrun weaker equipped premade team. |
| 22:11.29 | NimbleRabit | Thrae: In WoW they get "bonuses" from being on higher ground because you have to get to them, that's enough for me |
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| 22:11.37 | Thrae | In DAoC, I had no problem finding people skilled at PvP. In WoW, not so much, even with the increased numbers. |
| 22:11.49 | Cryect | the increased numbers makes it harder not easier |
| 22:11.54 | Kalman| | yacoob: I'd have to disagree with that. |
| 22:11.59 | NimbleRabit | Cryect: exactly, I just couldn't get into EVE |
| 22:12.00 | Cryect | when you have less people they are normally more hardcore players |
| 22:12.15 | yacoob | Kalman|, what, that gear difference counts? :) |
| 22:12.16 | Thrae | yacoob: Well, that was actually far worse in DAoC. The gear difference in WoW isn't near as much, and skill vs unskilled will always win out. |
| 22:12.25 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: how many MMO's do you play exactly? |
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| 22:12.35 | Xuerian | Dammit all |
| 22:12.36 | yacoob | NimbleRabit, ALL OF THEM! :D |
| 22:12.37 | Xuerian | I missed a good argument |
| 22:12.42 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: Let's see |
| 22:12.43 | Kalman| | That PUGs with gear will beat out a skilled premade. |
| 22:12.50 | NimbleRabit | I only try other MMO's out |
| 22:12.55 | Thrae | Skilled vs unskilled SHOULD always win out. That's why they are SKILLED. |
| 22:12.57 | Gnarfoz | http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9183/shoezzhf2.jpg |
| 22:13.01 | Thrae | If they can't win, they aren't really skilled. |
| 22:13.05 | NimbleRabit | if it's not fun or easy to get into within the first day, it's not worth my time imo |
| 22:13.15 | Xuerian | NWN GW EVE CoH CoV WoW SL |
| 22:13.17 | yacoob | Thrae, well, twinks convince me otherwise |
| 22:13.21 | Thrae | Just remember -- if you get school'd, then you aren't skilled :D |
| 22:13.23 | kenlyric | skill > gear but only when skill > 0 |
| 22:13.28 | yacoob | SL? |
| 22:13.31 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: city of heroes is such a terrible game. What is SL? |
| 22:13.33 | Xuerian | Second life <.< |
| 22:13.37 | yacoob | ah 8) |
| 22:13.38 | NimbleRabit | =/ |
| 22:13.44 | kenlyric | dear lord. |
| 22:13.45 | NimbleRabit | I actually bought CoH and everything |
| 22:13.47 | yacoob | and CoH/V is bad but it's good! |
| 22:13.49 | NimbleRabit | god that game is HORRID |
| 22:13.51 | Xuerian | I like making stuff, and you really cannot beat SL for making stuff |
| 22:13.51 | kenlyric | that's a lot o'monthly fees. |
| 22:13.56 | Kalman| | yacoob: Twinks aren't really realistic, though; you're talking about people with 4x the stats of your normal player, not maybe 1.5x as much at the worst. |
| 22:13.57 | Xuerian | Now, Step out of your quiet corner of the universe |
| 22:13.58 | yacoob | i mean, it's a great pastiche! |
| 22:13.59 | Xuerian | and it gets bad |
| 22:14.05 | Thrae | yacoob: I wasn't really twinked and I killed twinks all the time. Most twinks expect to go up against unskilled n00bs (twinks don't fight other twinks). I had great gear for my brackets, but not nearly at the twink level. |
| 22:14.12 | Xuerian | kenlyric: hahaha no I don't play them all at once, but those are the ones I've rotated over for the last year or two |
| 22:14.24 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: did you try mxo ever? lol |
| 22:14.39 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: I beg to differ. CoH and CoV are fun if you get into groups. I loved playing my Ice/Storm controller. It was awesome. |
| 22:14.42 | Thrae | The reason people make twinks is to kill as much people as possible, which means AVOIDING skilled players. Hence why most twinks are Rogues. |
| 22:14.43 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: mxo? |
| 22:14.45 | kenlyric | I can't see myself playing more than one at at time... it's hard enough for me to play non mmos while playing wow. I keep thinking of all that time I'm wasting. |
| 22:14.46 | yacoob | MxO is a game I'd like to try, mostly because of the events with "live" npcs. |
| 22:14.51 | yacoob | Xuerian, matrix online |
| 22:14.58 | NimbleRabit | I don't know how people can complain about WoW with MXO even existing |
| 22:15.05 | Cryect | is matrix online still goign? |
| 22:15.06 | Thrae | Matrix Online was total crap. |
| 22:15.09 | NimbleRabit | compete |
| 22:15.10 | NimbleRabit | junk |
| 22:15.16 | Xuerian | yacoob: As for time based, well yes, EVE is time based. It takes getting used to too, but you can't beat the flexibility in what you can do in it, unless you go to second life which isn't really a game |
| 22:15.20 | Thrae | I was glad I didn't take the job doing scripting for Rare. |
| 22:15.25 | Xuerian | I haven't tried MxO, though. |
| 22:15.26 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: meh to each his own, I really hated CoH |
| 22:15.35 | Xuerian | I'm looking forward to Stargate Online |
| 22:15.39 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: True enough |
| 22:15.47 | Thrae | You know what is best about EVE? |
| 22:15.55 | Thrae | It's database programming is AWESOME compared to WoW. |
| 22:15.59 | Xuerian | It is. |
| 22:15.59 | NimbleRabit | yacoob: the live events were the only cool part about the game, but sadly they always crashed the servers |
| 22:16.01 | kenlyric | WoW was my first MMO. I tried the eq2 seven day trial recently, and the LotRo beta. |
| 22:16.01 | yacoob | Xuerian, I'm on a verge of prolonging my trial... :) |
| 22:16.08 | Xuerian | The player driven economy is delicious |
| 22:16.11 | yacoob | NimbleRabit, aw, bad coding...? |
| 22:16.18 | Xuerian | yacoob: You won't last a month if you don't get into a corporation or into trading |
| 22:16.36 | yacoob | btw, lineage 2 anyone? Is that true they have *big* pvp events, like 600 players or so? |
| 22:16.47 | Xuerian | yacoob: It's either a game that makes you want to kill yourself from bordeom, or one that's fun and interesting with compatriots or competitors |
| 22:16.50 | NimbleRabit | yacoob: I'm not sure, but the servers crashed a Lot when they happened. I was there when everyone was trying to defend Morpheus, server crashed, when it came back up he was dead |
| 22:16.54 | Xuerian | yacoob: Eeeeugh I hated the few minutes of L2 I tried |
| 22:17.33 | Xuerian | The real true thing I'm looking forward to most, is Bioware's MMO |
| 22:17.39 | Cryect | I want something like AC1 where there is none of these defined classes :-p |
| 22:17.49 | Cryect | Fury has that actually though you start of as something |
| 22:17.50 | kenlyric | my perfect mmo is a solo game with random group content, optional party content, and irc. |
| 22:17.52 | Thrae | yacoob: Lineage 2 was backed by extremely insane Koreans, and it was also a Diablo-esque style game with far lower requirements. Lots of people played at Internet Cafes instead of at home, so it was easier to keep the bandwidth down. |
| 22:18.06 | kenlyric | so essentially, WoW until 70 :) |
| 22:18.09 | NimbleRabit | kenlyric: sounds like World of Warcraft, you should try it |
| 22:18.10 | Thrae | yacoob: I'm sure you've heard of the hardcore Korean players -- they're insane. |
| 22:18.13 | Xuerian | Seeing as Bioware made NWN, the truly best online rpg ever made (note, not mmo), as well as some of the best adventure/action games (Jade Empire, KotR), it should be fun |
| 22:18.16 | NimbleRabit | kenlyric: =P |
| 22:18.42 | yacoob | yup :) |
| 22:18.51 | Thrae | Asian players tend to get a little too caught up "being the best" in their MMOs because of their culture. |
| 22:19.13 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: After further consideration, coh just ranked a "Playable" for me. It's the character creator that owns. I spent hours infront of that damn screen |
| 22:19.23 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: haha that was the funnest part for me |
| 22:19.34 | yacoob | as for Eve: this is example of skill-based character developement, which is really really fun. |
| 22:19.38 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: it was when I got into the game that I just wanted to make more characters isntead |
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| 22:19.49 | Cryect | eve skill based character development was awful |
| 22:19.50 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: What I would give for a character creator that's a mix of NwN (for stats), CoH (for outfit) and EVE (for face) |
| 22:19.52 | yacoob | NimbleRabit, same here :) |
| 22:19.53 | Cryect | that wasn't fun at all |
| 22:19.59 | nuoHep | yacoob, if you are really going to prolong your eve trial, try to get in to some good corp. namely Eve University |
| 22:19.59 | Cryect | worst system I've seen yet >_> |
| 22:20.01 | Thrae | I've read thesises on the Asian Gaming Culture, from both Asians and Americans, and they say that "In America, the MMORPG is about developing a Story. In Asia, the MMORPG is about making your player become a Legend." |
| 22:20.07 | Xuerian | yacoob: IMO, EvE actually has the best skill system out there |
| 22:20.11 | Xuerian | Despite it being time based |
| 22:20.11 | yacoob | Cryect, well, it has disadvantage you're paying with time |
| 22:20.19 | Cryect | yeah but its not fun |
| 22:20.26 | Xuerian | No, it's not really fun |
| 22:20.26 | Cryect | how is waiting for something to level up fun |
| 22:20.29 | Xuerian | But it's very effective |
| 22:20.33 | Xuerian | And it makes sense |
| 22:20.36 | Xuerian | Which is something few others manage |
| 22:20.43 | Cryect | It makes more sense if you are actually doing something that it goes up |
| 22:20.43 | yacoob | *if* it was points based... |
| 22:20.52 | Thrae | I think the idea of learning new skills over time make sense. I'd like to see more realism in MMORPGs, without sacrificing playability. |
| 22:20.54 | Cryect | not because you pressed a button but doing nothing of the sort and it goes up |
| 22:20.57 | Xuerian | Cryect: Read the fiction on EVE's site |
| 22:21.00 | NimbleRabit | heh see I felt like cryect when I tried. It wasn't fun for me |
| 22:21.05 | Seyken | Thrae: But asian gaming isn't mainly console gaming? |
| 22:21.09 | yacoob | then making a character like that is something that always appealed for me - total freedom in skill choosing |
| 22:21.11 | kenlyric | Thrae: given how many loot whores there are in WoW, I debate that thesis :) |
| 22:21.27 | Cryect | Your fan's shouldn't be having to make fan fiction to somehow make it fun >_> |
| 22:21.30 | yacoob | Cryect, hey, it has a solid reasoning, you're just downloading stuff to your brain... :D |
| 22:21.32 | Xuerian | Cryect: you have to read the story behind pods for EVE's training to make sense |
| 22:21.42 | Thrae | Seyken: I'm just talking MMORPGs. |
| 22:21.49 | Cryect | oh you are talking that |
| 22:21.54 | Seyken | Thrae: :/ |
| 22:21.55 | Cryect | but still its not fun or interesting |
| 22:22.02 | Cryect | a level system should actually be interesting |
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| 22:22.10 | NimbleRabit | Actually that does seem true. I always hear the word "legend" in asian games like Silk Road |
| 22:22.16 | Xuerian | Cryect: No, because building skills is not a active part of EvE. Building weath, and building up your corporation, is |
| 22:22.21 | NimbleRabit | and it seems to appeal more to that side of becoming the best |
| 22:22.22 | yacoob | well, if they'd cut on the time factor, it'll bee too easy I think... |
| 22:22.24 | Thrae | Seyken: The gaming culture, worldwide, is more prevelent in console gaming. |
| 22:22.25 | Kalman| | I still really like AO's skill/level system. |
| 22:22.29 | Xuerian | Cryect: There is no level system in eve |
| 22:22.40 | yacoob | "easy" as in superultralordsofuniverse roaming in numbers across the galaxy |
| 22:22.42 | Thrae | kenlyric: I've actually done some freelance design for Korean MMORPG firms. |
| 22:22.44 | Xuerian | Cryect: And trying to make the skill system apply to a level theory makes it come out awful badly |
| 22:22.47 | Cryect | Xuerian: Sure it is hwo much time your character has sit afk |
| 22:22.59 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: you need an entirely different kind of game than most people. Wierdo second life player =P |
| 22:23.14 | kenlyric | Thrae: I'm not saying it's not true of asians. I'm saying it's not true of americans :) |
| 22:23.14 | Cryect | Xuerian: The making money stuff is a good secondary game |
| 22:23.17 | art3mis | anyone remember the name of that online rpg "game" that did all the stuff for you and you just needed the box to be open and running? |
| 22:23.19 | Xuerian | Cryect: You don't have to sit afk. EVE is made so you can turn off the computer and go have a life, yet actually advance in the game |
| 22:23.22 | Cryect | Xuerian: its not a great priamry game |
| 22:23.25 | Thrae | Remember, the numbers which play Lineage 2 rival World of Warcraft. |
| 22:23.26 | kenlyric | they're whores for making their characters gods. |
| 22:23.28 | yacoob | nuoHep, as for the corp, can you throw an url at me? :) |
| 22:23.32 | Xuerian | Cryect: Money = ships. Ships = combat. Combat = fun |
| 22:23.42 | Cryect | Xuerian: I like to feel like I sit down at the computer for a few hours and I make progress |
| 22:23.44 | yacoob | art3mis, idlerpg? :) |
| 22:23.52 | art3mis | not irc related |
| 22:23.58 | art3mis | soemthingquest |
| 22:24.03 | art3mis | something |
| 22:24.03 | Cryect | Xuerian: You sit down a few hours in Eve and you don't feel like you've accomplished much its all about the long term and not the short term |
| 22:24.07 | yacoob | progresquest? :) |
| 22:24.07 | Kalman| | ProgressQuest, art? |
| 22:24.10 | art3mis | yeah! |
| 22:24.20 | Xuerian | Cryect: you're right, then it's just not the game for you. |
| 22:24.22 | art3mis | thanks i knew i could count on you nerds ;P |
| 22:24.23 | theoddone33 | man |
| 22:24.29 | theoddone33 | I couldn't get into eve at all |
| 22:24.36 | yacoob | we love you too, art3mis :P |
| 22:24.37 | Xuerian | theoddone33: Not everyone does, obviously :p |
| 22:24.41 | theoddone33 | but I didn't play past the tutorial :P |
| 22:24.48 | yacoob | the tutorial is *horrible* :) |
| 22:24.50 | nuoHep | yacoob, its http://www.eve-ivy.com/ afaik. but you d better join EVE UNIVERSITY in game and ask there. (its not my corp btw, it just one of the best corps for "noobs" in eve) |
| 22:24.54 | Thrae | kenlyric: Again, it's exponentially more prevelent in the Asian Gaming culture. I didn't mean it didn't exist. |
| 22:24.55 | theoddone33 | I finished it and I couldn't think of anything to do |
| 22:24.58 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: Weirdo secondlife player. Haha, well, I've ventured into populated areas in SL exactly once |
| 22:24.59 | theoddone33 | so I stopped playing |
| 22:25.04 | yacoob | nuoHep, thanks. |
| 22:25.09 | Xuerian | The tutorial was pretty bad |
| 22:25.17 | Xuerian | The first two hours is the hardest part of the game |
| 22:25.25 | ggeorgak | mates I have an addon idea |
| 22:25.26 | Xuerian | Because the learning curve is more of a learning wall |
| 22:25.26 | Cryect | you basically do nothign the tutorial says to do for hte beginning game :-p |
| 22:25.30 | theoddone33 | it's like... "so the game is about buying stuff?" |
| 22:25.30 | yacoob | it's throwing too much information at you, simply |
| 22:25.34 | ggeorgak | and thinking of starting to program it |
| 22:25.35 | Kalman| | I beta'ed EVE and after the tutorial ended I was basically sitting there going "What the hell?". |
| 22:25.35 | theoddone33 | I didn't get it |
| 22:25.39 | Cryect | it like convinces you that you should be mining or something right after you started |
| 22:25.40 | Xuerian | yacoob: But you *have* to have that information to survive |
| 22:25.44 | Xuerian | Once you get it it's not that bad |
| 22:25.49 | art3mis | whatever happened to mechwar 3031? |
| 22:25.50 | ggeorgak | anybody wants to hear and tell me what you think? |
| 22:25.52 | Thrae | kenlyric: You have to understand the scope of how many people *dedicate their lives*, to the point of not being able to take proper care of themselves, to these Asian-based games. The numbers dwarf North America. |
| 22:25.52 | Kalman| | I tried it out again more recently and it was better... but it still just kinda dumps you. |
| 22:25.55 | kenlyric | i'd say the number of raiders in WoW who care about advancement in story (progression) is far smaller than the ones that care about loot (char advanement) |
| 22:25.58 | Xuerian | Cryect: Do a handful of the right kinds of missions and you can get right into fighter ships and start ratting |
| 22:25.59 | yacoob | Xuerian, that's why it's my second trial, I still remember stuff, but I'm not taking tutorial this time :) |
| 22:26.05 | Kalman| | art3mis: BT3025 was beta'ed and canceled, sadly. It was actually a lot of fun. |
| 22:26.19 | kenlyric | Thrae: I see your point now. |
| 22:26.20 | Cryect | Xuerian: I know what you are supposed to do :_p I meant the tutorial doesn't teach that to players so they get all confused |
| 22:26.20 | Xuerian | art3mis: Damnit I want another mechwarrior game |
| 22:26.26 | art3mis | Kalman|: that sucks it looked good |
| 22:26.31 | Xuerian | Cryect: The tutorial has been revamped |
| 22:26.32 | Seyken | ggeorgak: what is it? |
| 22:26.33 | yacoob | but I like the ideas in eve |
| 22:26.36 | Cryect | Xuerian: Most the people I knew ended up trying to mine because the tutorial told them that :-p |
| 22:26.38 | yacoob | contracts |
| 22:26.38 | Xuerian | Cryect: The latest two patches have been huge |
| 22:26.44 | yacoob | or bounties :) |
| 22:26.48 | Kalman| | art3mis: If you're thinking of the same one as me, it was a *lot* of fun, reminded me of some of the old BT MUDs. |
| 22:26.53 | Xuerian | yacoob: Yes, a lot of eve makes sense, it doesn't take effort to play your role |
| 22:26.58 | yacoob | and the setting, yay :) |
| 22:26.59 | theoddone33 | I have a friend who quit WoW and now thinks EVE is the graetest thing ever |
| 22:27.02 | Xuerian | Yep +) |
| 22:27.03 | art3mis | yeah thats what it was about 6 years ago or something |
| 22:27.18 | theoddone33 | it solves almost all of the problems with wow and blah blah blah |
| 22:27.30 | ggeorgak | idea: player rating system, meaning I party with some ppl in a dungeon if some1 is a bad player i can give him a bad rating otherwise a good rating so when other ppl are going to consider him for grp they r gonna be warned |
| 22:27.34 | sbu | kenlyric: of course it is |
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| 22:27.37 | Cryect | haha I don't see how you could compare it to WoW they are two different games :-p |
| 22:27.39 | Kalman| | Yeah, same one. Beta'ed, was canceled for unspecified reasons. I was so excited for it. :( |
| 22:27.44 | sbu | but i guess its the same in every game |
| 22:27.47 | sbu | loot > * |
| 22:27.49 | Xuerian | Cryect: Exactly |
| 22:27.55 | Xuerian | sbu: not really |
| 22:27.58 | ggeorgak | idea cont.: plus my rating on the players would have "weight" depending on my own |
| 22:27.59 | kenlyric | sbu: not really. |
| 22:28.03 | sbu | no? :o |
| 22:28.11 | yacoob | in gw there's hardly eny "phat loot" to gather :) |
| 22:28.14 | kenlyric | I really can't udnerstand the obsession with loot. |
| 22:28.18 | yacoob | s/eny/any/ |
| 22:28.19 | Xuerian | Sbu: In eve, you build a reputation. Progression isn't like wow, where lots of people have lots of characters. In eve your main character is usually it for a long while |
| 22:28.20 | kenlyric | it's a tool, nothing more. |
| 22:28.26 | Xuerian | And when you have rep and position, you can do more than simply loot |
| 22:28.28 | Cryect | Only thing I thought should be incorporated from EVE into wow is the great selling/buying system |
| 22:28.34 | Xuerian | Where's that story..... |
| 22:28.41 | yacoob | Xuerian, the scam? :) |
| 22:28.47 | theoddone33 | for me I think the obsession with loot is an obsession with progress and loot is the only real tangible form of progress |
| 22:28.53 | ggeorgak | idea cont.: i.e. my rating is 10(the best) I rate the other guy 5 then he gets 5, my rating is 5 and I rate the other player 5 he gets 5/10*5=2.5 |
| 22:28.53 | Xuerian | The one where the corp was infiltrated over the course of a year, yacoob? |
| 22:28.54 | yacoob | with guy calling to library? :) |
| 22:29.01 | yacoob | nope, not this one |
| 22:29.05 | Xuerian | You find yours |
| 22:29.07 | Xuerian | I'll find mine :p |
| 22:29.19 | Xuerian | ggeorgak: Can you say "Abuse" |
| 22:29.20 | yacoob | argh, too little keywords! :) |
| 22:29.26 | ggeorgak | see above |
| 22:29.29 | Seyken | ggeorgak: your addon will need to be famous, in others way it will be useless |
| 22:29.33 | ggeorgak | if I abuse i'll get a bad rating |
| 22:29.41 | ggeorgak | so my ratings won't count |
| 22:29.42 | Xuerian | ggeorgak: it'd be abused the same way the bounty systems are in EVE. Great idea, but its' easy to make a alt and kill yourself, get the money, and be that much richer |
| 22:29.53 | kenlyric | theoddone33: dead bosses are a tangible form of progress :) |
| 22:30.10 | theoddone33 | well not personal progress |
| 22:30.18 | theoddone33 | like someone said, WoW is character based |
| 22:30.19 | kenlyric | I just don't know how peple can stand fighting a boss, hoping something drops. I'd go crazy. |
| 22:30.22 | ggeorgak | there isn't such a big motive to "bury" other players |
| 22:30.28 | Thrae | My Fun is not necessarily in "Making Progress". But for most people, they play MMORPGs to relieve stress in their lives, much of which comes from a feeling of powerlessness. Having set goals they set themselves, ones they can complete relatively easily, gives them a feeling of control over their own destiny. |
| 22:30.29 | theoddone33 | well downing bosses is fun |
| 22:30.32 | Seyken | ggeorgak: it should be a fair rating too, i don't think ppl can make a fair rating when their loot is gone to a party member .. Jalousy :) |
| 22:30.34 | Xuerian | Read this: http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ |
| 22:30.41 | Xuerian | The largest in game heist on record |
| 22:30.45 | art3mis | okay enough eve talk ;P |
| 22:30.55 | art3mis | its making me wanna find your homes and burn you and your families ;P |
| 22:30.57 | ggeorgak | seyken: i'm tryign to make the system selffeedbacked |
| 22:30.58 | theoddone33 | my only raiding is MC... I didn't go to raids every weekend because I just really wanted to down sulferon again |
| 22:31.07 | theoddone33 | I went to get DKP for loot |
| 22:31.12 | theoddone33 | if there was no loot would anyone do MC more than once? |
| 22:31.16 | Xuerian | Thrae: Excellent summary =) |
| 22:31.24 | Kalman| | theoddone33: Nah. But I'd do Naxx again. |
| 22:31.28 | ggeorgak | it would be something like pageranking of yahoo |
| 22:31.31 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 22:31.33 | theoddone33 | never done naxx |
| 22:31.36 | theoddone33 | would really like to |
| 22:31.57 | ggeorgak | ah plus i didn't tell u something important! |
| 22:32.07 | ggeorgak | you could rate some1 else only if u grp with him |
| 22:32.07 | theoddone33 | I even did ZG for fun at 70 |
| 22:32.12 | ggeorgak | so alt abuse can't be :) |
| 22:32.13 | theoddone33 | I don't think I'd do MC again though |
| 22:32.17 | Seyken | theoddone33: same for me, haven't seen kel thuzad since warcraft |
| 22:32.34 | yacoob | cheers :) |
| 22:32.38 | Cryect | go back and do Naxx its pretty easy at llv 70 |
| 22:32.43 | Xuerian | yacoob: read that :P |
| 22:32.43 | art3mis | nwn2 is fun btw |
| 22:32.51 | kenlyric | theoddone33: like I said, loot is a tool, so you can't ignore it completely. But focusing on it seems a lessons in frustration. |
| 22:32.52 | theoddone33 | well I'd have to get a bunch of people together |
| 22:32.54 | Xuerian | art3mis: nwn1 still has the players and the content |
| 22:33.00 | yacoob | (that's why I'm still hanging around here, 'tho the account is frozen since March or Feb...) |
| 22:33.06 | theoddone33 | kenlyric: I agree, MC is a lesson in frustration :P |
| 22:33.06 | Kalman| | Xuerian: Nobody discussed AO. I liked that game. ;) |
| 22:33.09 | art3mis | yeah wnn1 was amazing |
| 22:33.12 | art3mis | nwn |
| 22:33.14 | kenlyric | Cryect: naxx is still surprisingly hard solo :) |
| 22:33.15 | yacoob | Xuerian, tomorrow I think, pretty sleepy right now... |
| 22:33.21 | theoddone33 | pvp got me most of my loot, really |
| 22:33.26 | Xuerian | Kalman|: I have a graphics inhibition. A game has to either look decently good, or be utterly awesome |
| 22:33.26 | Cryect | Kalman| I always wanted to try AO but never got the chance to |
| 22:33.31 | Xuerian | Kalman|: AO didn't quite make the cut <.< |
| 22:33.35 | theoddone33 | pvp is fun, but upgrading yourself is fun too |
| 22:33.40 | Xuerian | yacoob: Alright :p |
| 22:33.41 | Facktotum | cyect: its not you still have to learn the boss tactics if you never did them especially 4h and you still need resist gear for saph |
| 22:33.43 | art3mis | martial heroes |
| 22:33.45 | Kalman| | Cryect: Minus the interface issues, you'd have liked it; min/maxing in that game was like nothing I've seen. |
| 22:33.45 | Cryect | Xuerian: Hey AoC looks good at least :) |
| 22:33.49 | art3mis | it's perty |
| 22:34.00 | Thrae | Has anyone played FFXI : MMO? Now the combat system in THAT game was awesome, as well as the storyline. It's just it quickly became hard and tedious. |
| 22:34.01 | yacoob | now that you mention it... |
| 22:34.25 | yacoob | ...GW made me realize how much toon-like wow gfx is :) |
| 22:34.44 | Cryect | yacoob: original alpha graphics were more realisitc |
| 22:35.01 | Cryect | yacoob: the toon graphics look way better and more like warcraft |
| 22:35.16 | Thrae | Think about WoW, where a Shaman, instead of just running up to someone and farting magical bullets, Windfury makes them pause and then do 20 different animated attacks from different directions around your opponent. |
| 22:35.30 | Xuerian | yacoob: I loved GW's graphics, and the teamwork completely kicks ass. The combat is nice and quick. The shoddy pathing and lack of jumping really hurt the effect =( |
| 22:35.40 | Thrae | That's the style of cool animation that exists in FFXI, which is missing in WoW. |
| 22:35.53 | yacoob | Xuerian, we'll see how GW2 will turn out :) |
| 22:35.56 | Thrae | Especially cool in FFXI are Link Combos. |
| 22:36.10 | yacoob | Thrae, but FFXI has ATB, which more "static", no? |
| 22:36.16 | Cryect | Facktotum: I'm confused why you would need resist gear I mean healing through shadowbolt volleys on Magtheridon is hard to healing the damage on Sapphiron |
| 22:36.16 | yacoob | as in positions of players...? |
| 22:36.18 | theoddone33 | GW doesn't run on mac :( |
| 22:36.18 | Xuerian | yacoob: Indeed, but aside from CoH, NCSoft published games don't exactly have a leaping history |
| 22:36.23 | Seyken | atb static? wot do u mean? |
| 22:36.24 | Kalman| | Those are the ones where player A? does something to open up a combo for B to open a combo for C? |
| 22:36.47 | yacoob | Seyken, "static" as in "you don't run around much" |
| 22:38.16 | Cartas | Any MTU masters in here? :o |
| 22:38.17 | Thrae | yacoob: The only thing "static" about FFXI was that eventually, everything was lumped into one "perfect class", and everything else was too hard to use. |
| 22:38.18 | Punkie` | Did anyone ever play a game called Little Big Adventure 2? Those graphics were awesome back in the day |
| 22:38.49 | theoddone33 | yeah I remember that |
| 22:38.50 | theoddone33 | vaguely |
| 22:38.52 | Seyken | LBA lol, on Playstation 1 |
| 22:38.52 | yacoob | allright, mistaken about being static |
| 22:38.57 | yacoob | Punkie`, yup. |
| 22:39.08 | Punkie` | I loved that game :D |
| 22:39.16 | Thrae | You know what's even better then playing a MMORPG? |
| 22:39.23 | Thrae | Playing a MMORPG with friends in the same room. |
| 22:39.29 | Punkie` | "Can you help me heal my injured Dinofly?" :D |
| 22:39.43 | Thrae | Just like playing a LAN game, playing with friends in the same room / house that you can yell at is awesome. |
| 22:40.27 | Kalman| | Playing Diablo II with my housemates in college was great. |
| 22:40.50 | Cartas | Playing Toejam & Earl on the Megadrive with my brother was pro! <3 |
| 22:40.55 | Cartas | and Streets of Rage with my Dad, haha. |
| 22:40.57 | yacoob | speaking of old |
| 22:41.02 | phyber | I used to play Diablo 2 with my brothers. that rocked, could kick some ass :) |
| 22:41.14 | yacoob | how many of you hoped for Blizzard to reveal The Lost Vikings 3 today? :) |
| 22:41.22 | phyber | yacoob: :D |
| 22:41.40 | yacoob | for few moments, I did :D |
| 22:41.40 | Cartas | I've not played any Lost Vikings games. *Hides in shame* |
| 22:41.44 | phyber | that could be pretty good online. |
| 22:41.54 | Thrae | Considering what happened with Lost Vikings 2, I bet Lost Vikings 3 will have our three Dwarves remade into Robots in the year 30XX ;) |
| 22:41.54 | Xuerian | Half-life2 Deathmatch and Far Cry with a eight-person lan game. or Tribes Vengeance. |
| 22:42.01 | Xuerian | Hard to beat them lanning. |
| 22:42.01 | phyber | "zomg, nub, charge the wall!" |
| 22:42.08 | Thrae | ROBO-DWARVES FROM THE 31ST CENTURY! |
| 22:42.09 | Punkie` | wtf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usvxsh9xnpo :D |
| 22:42.10 | yacoob | Cartas, there are SNES roms floating arounds, small and you can play them anywhere |
| 22:42.15 | yacoob | phyber, :DDDDD |
| 22:42.17 | Cartas | Worth it? |
| 22:42.26 | Cartas | Why do I even ask, 'tis a Blizzard game! |
| 22:42.40 | Cartas | I'll get it just for you, Yacoob, old chap! |
| 22:42.43 | Kalman| | Xuerian: Ugh. You liked Vengeance? |
| 22:43.07 | Xuerian | Kalman|: No, I hated it |
| 22:43.11 | Xuerian | Kalman|: But it is a passable lan game |
| 22:43.20 | yacoob | Cartas, well, it's nice platform game with a twist :) |
| 22:43.23 | Xuerian | it was a disgrace to the name |
| 22:43.26 | Kalman| | Ah, okay. Fair enough. :) |
| 22:43.35 | yacoob | TLV2 was first game to be published with Blizzard logo if I'm not mistaken |
| 22:43.49 | Xuerian | Tribes2 (or 1) all the way. Meltdown mod, preferably |
| 22:43.59 | Xuerian | 'Swhere I got my start in UI modding :) |
| 22:44.01 | Punkie` | yacoob; check out that youtube, hihi |
| 22:44.12 | yacoob | TLV had 'silicon and synapse' logo :0 |
| 22:44.38 | Saroz | ffs vhaarr, get NRT on SVN -.- |
| 22:44.45 | yacoob | hehe, saw that :)) |
| 22:45.05 | Kalman| | Xuerian: I was T2 semi-competitive, played TWL CTF-12 base ladder for quite a while. |
| 22:45.27 | Xuerian | Kalman|: I never played ladder. hard to actually be good on 56k |
| 22:45.36 | Xuerian | But it was damn fun in a battle angel on machineheads arena |
| 22:45.37 | Kalman| | Yeah. Was a great game for competitive play though. |
| 22:45.53 | Xuerian | Still haven't found anything to beat a full 30v30 t2 match |
| 22:46.08 | Kalman| | At least once they pared down the maps so nobody ever had to play Recalescence or the other one, the really big one with matched bases. |
| 22:46.22 | yacoob | Xuerian, found the article, http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/14/010216 |
| 22:46.28 | yacoob | sadly, it's no longer available :( |
| 22:47.25 | Xuerian | Doh. |
| 22:47.38 | Xuerian | Kalman|: The one on the ground or in the air? |
| 22:47.50 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Scratch that, *MOST* t2 maps were matched bases |
| 22:48.08 | Xuerian | Katabatic, the really open hilly one with a canyon in the middle, the one with two huge floating bases |
| 22:48.14 | Kalman| | Kata was okay. |
| 22:48.15 | Xuerian | The REAAALY huge one with two wide floating bases |
| 22:48.22 | Xuerian | That's what I started on. Kata, base mod. |
| 22:48.27 | yacoob | web archive for the rescue! |
| 22:48.29 | Kalman| | No, this wasn't floating bases, it was the giant one with awful weather. |
| 22:48.29 | yacoob | http://web.archive.org/web/20040806054733/www.pq5.com/Nightfreeze/part1.html |
| 22:48.41 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Really flat? |
| 22:48.51 | Xuerian | Stone circle in the middle |
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| 22:49.30 | Saroz | GUSY! It's saturday night! Time to play "Show your UI" |
| 22:49.32 | Saroz | go go |
| 22:49.44 | Cryect | no :-p |
| 22:49.48 | Fisker- | and if i refuse? |
| 22:50.14 | yacoob | saroz will release a tiger! |
| 22:50.14 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/lolwut.JPG <- i liek |
| 22:50.14 | Cryect | nothing bad seems to be happening to me yet |
| 22:50.14 | Saroz | then you loose the game |
| 22:50.14 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: I liked the ps2 version of tribes |
| 22:50.14 | Fisker- | i never loose the game |
| 22:50.24 | Cryect | NimbleRabit: I will just say wtf at liking a PS2 version of any fps |
| 22:50.47 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: Never played it, but wtf |
| 22:50.53 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 22:50.55 | Cryect | loose the game? |
| 22:51.03 | Kalman| | Xuerian: Who ever saw the middle? You had to fly across the map for it to make decent time. |
| 22:51.04 | Cryect | how does the game get loose |
| 22:51.08 | Kalman| | Not hilly... but little bumps. |
| 22:51.08 | Kalman| | Etc. |
| 22:51.10 | NimbleRabit | you guys hate console or something? |
| 22:51.26 | NimbleRabit | I liked tribes on the pc as well, but the ps2 version was actually different and appealing at the same time |
| 22:51.56 | dodgizzla | I want to debug BigWigs Thaddius Arrows because the current version does not work; I thought I start by checking if the methods actually do something.. Is there a way to call the methods when it is declared local? |
| 22:52.22 | Cryect | I like consoles for what they are good for, and FPS is far from it :-p I don't mind playing like wiht 3 other people or something while drinking but that normally turned out into a 20 pts vs 2 pts for whoever came second behind me or somethign silly |
| 22:52.32 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/punkieui.jpg |
| 22:52.55 | NimbleRabit | I'd show my UI if paintshop didn't take 20 minutes to start |
| 22:52.57 | Cryect | Punkie`: I'm guessing you don't talk much ingame |
| 22:53.00 | NimbleRabit | is there an easier way to convert the imagine? |
| 22:53.05 | Saroz | haha was just thinking that Cryect |
| 22:53.07 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: well the methods aren't local. |
| 22:53.12 | Punkie` | 1 sec |
| 22:53.16 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Yeah but how do I call them? |
| 22:53.20 | Cryect | why do you bother having a combat log if you show 3 lines |
| 22:53.23 | NimbleRabit | Punkie`: wtf at 2 lines of chat |
| 22:53.24 | Saroz | top bar is cool though |
| 22:53.31 | dodgizzla | ...:whatever but what is the "..." part :D |
| 22:53.33 | Fisker- | Introducing the iFap |
| 22:53.34 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Haha, good point. |
| 22:53.37 | NimbleRabit | Cryect: I do that, I use it just to scroll through when I want to find something |
| 22:53.47 | Fisker- | your ui sucks and you should feel bad Punkie` |
| 22:53.57 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: Get XNView, don't need ps or ps (haha) for screens |
| 22:53.59 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: /script BigWigs:GetModule("Thaddius Arrows"):Method(args) |
| 22:54.08 | dodgizzla | Ah I see |
| 22:54.12 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/punkieuidoubleclick.jpg |
| 22:54.27 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: thanks I'll check itout |
| 22:54.39 | Cryect | Punkie`: still not enough lines for my taste :-p |
| 22:54.56 | NimbleRabit | Punkie`: that top bar is pretty sexy |
| 22:54.58 | Cryect | I will be in the middle of a raid chatting in party chat, guild chat, and various channels |
| 22:55.10 | Cryect | and of course IRC also |
| 22:55.15 | Cryect | but thats a second monitor |
| 22:55.17 | Fisker- | Punkie` still doing it wrong, etc. feel bad |
| 22:55.23 | Cryect | haha |
| 22:55.25 | Fisker- | i'm gonna go to sleep now |
| 22:55.26 | Fisker- | see you |
| 22:55.32 | Cryect | night |
| 22:56.08 | Kalman| | Xuerian: Cannot for the life of me come up with the mapname. :/ |
| 22:56.21 | vhaarr | sbu: You know, MountLib could just be a part of SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0 instead of its own library. |
| 22:57.02 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/punkieui2.jpg does that work? |
| 22:57.32 | Punkie` | the double click one didnt for me :P |
| 22:58.06 | Seyken | all the links above work |
| 22:58.21 | Punkie` | ah ok |
| 22:58.30 | Seyken | i suppose you play with your mouse? |
| 22:58.31 | Punkie` | well you double click on the bottom bar |
| 22:58.40 | Punkie` | and it extends |
| 22:58.46 | NimbleRabit | Punkie`: I like what you did with xpfu or w/e it is, looks very nice |
| 22:58.50 | Punkie` | all my buttons are bound |
| 22:58.57 | Punkie` | except the ones that are shown :P |
| 22:59.06 | Kalman| | Maybe Reversion? |
| 22:59.30 | Seyken | Punkie`: Good Player :) |
| 22:59.36 | Punkie` | ^^ |
| 22:59.54 | Punkie` | All my action buttons are bound to hidden bars :) |
| 23:00.13 | Seyken | btw, is there a place where i can talk with others hunters? |
| 23:00.22 | Punkie` | wow europe hunter forums! |
| 23:00.23 | Seyken | irc channel, or forum? |
| 23:00.24 | CIA-23 | 03adirelle * r35893 10Violation/modules/ (DPS.lua HPS.lua): |
| 23:00.24 | CIA-23 | Violation: |
| 23:00.24 | CIA-23 | - DPS: "DPS sequence duration" has now a 1.5sec floor to prevent silly, high numbers. |
| 23:00.24 | CIA-23 | - HPS: now works as DPS. |
| 23:00.24 | Cryect | the WoW hunter forum? |
| 23:00.35 | Cryect | not that I think its prolly a good place to chat with them :-p |
| 23:00.40 | Punkie` | hehehe |
| 23:00.53 | Seyken | i know already.. Migrim and tio for example :) |
| 23:00.59 | Punkie` | Cryect: how many lines of chat do you have shown? :P |
| 23:01.52 | Cryect | a ton its up to like 1/3 of my screen vertically at 1920x1200 max windowed res |
| 23:02.02 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Okay, the methods themself do work, e.g. I get the arrows on the screen; could it be, that it gets messed up due to people having old versions of BigWigs and ThaddiusArrows and broadcasting crap? |
| 23:02.21 | Cryect | so about 2.5x your amount when ou are in the second mode |
| 23:02.23 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: Are you sure you have the Thaddius module? |
| 23:02.56 | Punkie` | Cryect: WHAT?! :D |
| 23:03.01 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Absolutely; I'm not there atm, just drytesting in IF |
| 23:03.07 | Punkie` | Now that's way to many, ever scroll? :D |
| 23:03.14 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: then I have no idea what could be wrong. |
| 23:05.04 | Saroz | hrrrm, wonder if I should start using Violation |
| 23:05.26 | Punkie` | It's quite nice :) |
| 23:05.35 | vhaarr | you should fix those minor optimization issues I listed for sRF a month ago |
| 23:05.43 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Haha, it's been so long, I have no idea what the map name was either |
| 23:05.46 | Saroz | help me with meta tables |
| 23:05.46 | Saroz | plx |
| 23:05.56 | nevcairiel | is there a closetgnome plugin which can change items based on my shapeshift form? |
| 23:05.56 | NimbleRabit | http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot051907160235ao6.jpg |
| 23:05.56 | Cryect | of course I scroll but considering how ugly the floor is in WoW not like I need to look at the floor in my lower Left corner :-p |
| 23:06.05 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: Switcher is supposed to do that |
| 23:06.11 | nevcairiel | thx |
| 23:06.16 | Kalman| | But you know the one I mean, right? |
| 23:06.33 | Kalman| | Vehicle pad behind the base, vertical base, flag wasn't really all that amenable to fast runs? |
| 23:07.23 | NimbleRabit | Cryect: mine has 11 lines, works fine for me |
| 23:07.52 | Punkie` | NimbleRabit: emoUI! ;D |
| 23:08.08 | NimbleRabit | lol black != emo |
| 23:08.21 | NimbleRabit | it's swirly and cool looking god |
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| 23:08.58 | NimbleRabit | =P |
| 23:09.15 | Kalman| | I think it was Reversion, come to think of it. |
| 23:09.15 | NimbleRabit | the art doesn't even work right at my rezz though, I really should change my UI |
| 23:10.04 | *** join/#wowace pub^^ (n=pub@cdubray.csbnet.se) |
| 23:11.23 | Punkie` | Yeah, but I'm loving the rogue mods I made that are either side of my unitframes, they rock :D |
| 23:11.36 | NimbleRabit | what do they do |
| 23:11.54 | Punkie` | the left one shows how many ticks of energy before I have that energy |
| 23:11.58 | Seyken | they tell him he's the best rogue? |
| 23:12.07 | *** join/#wowace Neebler (n=BuM@adsl-70-140-218-33.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:12.10 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Mind boggling.. Is there any way I can get more information? I'll try turning debugging on next time we're on Thaddius, but is there anything else? |
| 23:12.14 | NimbleRabit | as you can see from my screen I'm a rogue |
| 23:12.18 | NimbleRabit | so I may be interested |
| 23:12.22 | Punkie` | and the right one shows if there is poison up, mangle up (for rupture), find weakness and slice n dice |
| 23:12.22 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: Try BigWigs_Debugger. |
| 23:12.41 | Punkie` | Seyken: people won't believe me no matter what my mods say :( |
| 23:13.18 | NimbleRabit | S&D has nothing to do with your target so that doesn't make sense to me |
| 23:13.28 | Punkie` | neither does find weakness |
| 23:13.28 | Seyken | Punkie`: don't worry about other ppl, make your mods tell you you're a good rogue too :p |
| 23:13.35 | theoddone33 | those are nice |
| 23:13.37 | NimbleRabit | or find weakness, yeah |
| 23:13.48 | Punkie` | it's just a mod to see if you are able to do optimal dps :) |
| 23:13.50 | NimbleRabit | neat mods though |
| 23:13.57 | Punkie` | for a mutilate rogue anyway |
| 23:14.09 | NimbleRabit | I'm combat though, so I think I'll pass with asking for them =P |
| 23:14.20 | NimbleRabit | combat potency makes the energy one kind of pointless for me |
| 23:14.22 | Punkie` | they are on the files anyway :) |
| 23:14.22 | Thrae | RogueHelper3000: "Use Kick NOW." "WTF why didn't you use Kick when I told you to?" *Rogue Dies. "You suck." |
| 23:14.39 | sbu | vhaarr: uhhm |
| 23:14.45 | Seyken | Thrae: Lol! |
| 23:14.55 | Punkie` | Thrae: Shh, don't tell anyone but that's called antagonist! :D |
| 23:15.04 | NimbleRabit | Punkie`: best thing about your ui is the top bar, looks nice. Good job on that |
| 23:15.29 | Punkie` | hehe, it's just a simple frame :) |
| 23:15.31 | NimbleRabit | antagonist is overpowered and shouldn't be allowed |
| 23:15.38 | NimbleRabit | T_T |
| 23:16.02 | Seyken | Antagonist rulz, it saved me in PvP a lot |
| 23:16.11 | NimbleRabit | I use it |
| 23:16.29 | Seyken | warlocks are sooo cheated :p |
| 23:16.31 | Punkie` | Antagonist rules for the timers on Divine Shield and Iceblock really :p |
| 23:16.40 | NimbleRabit | any rogue who doesn't use it at least to see perceptions buff duration is missing out |
| 23:17.02 | Punkie` | 0.1sec before iceblock is worn off, gouge ftw :) |
| 23:17.07 | Seyken | antagonist balance the fight against them, and the F******* ICEBLOCK!!! |
| 23:17.39 | NimbleRabit | Punkie`: what is the "huggybear" on your interface |
| 23:17.59 | sbu | vhaarr: hmm didnt know about that, needed a place to test Babble Mount stuff, do you want me to put that stuff in specialevents? |
| 23:18.08 | theoddone33 | what I want is a mod that tells me the percentage of the time I kept snd (or FW) up when I leave combat |
| 23:18.25 | Punkie` | NimbleRabit: what's a huggybear? :P |
| 23:18.38 | vhaarr | sbu: SE-Mount doesn't need Babble, it has some rx'es for figuring out if a buff is a mount buff and not. |
| 23:18.53 | Punkie` | theoddone33: the snd one should read 99% :P FW ~90% if you are lucky ^^ |
| 23:19.00 | vhaarr | sbu: but yeah, 1 library is better than 2. |
| 23:19.00 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 23:19.02 | CIA-23 | 03saroz * r35894 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Prevent mass function creation when creating debuff/buff frames |
| 23:19.02 | theoddone33 | that's the thing |
| 23:19.08 | theoddone33 | if it doesn't you know you sucked that fight |
| 23:19.52 | Punkie` | aye |
| 23:20.06 | NimbleRabit | SnD is pretty darned easy to keep up |
| 23:20.08 | Punkie` | NimbleRabit: that's some random dudes name in shatrath from nameplates :P |
| 23:20.19 | sbu | vhaarr: well - its in the aura description, but its expensive to get that description since you need to create the tooltip - so i assembled that list of mounts |
| 23:20.25 | NimbleRabit | ahh |
| 23:20.35 | theoddone33 | well there's other stuff to measure |
| 23:20.45 | NimbleRabit | at least, it's easy as combat spec |
| 23:20.53 | theoddone33 | like how you kept SnD up |
| 23:20.54 | NimbleRabit | 30% increased time, lots of 15 energy procs |
| 23:21.03 | Punkie` | it's very easy for mutilate |
| 23:21.34 | theoddone33 | with mutilate, wasting CPs becomes a concern |
| 23:21.39 | Punkie` | theoddone33: try pMutilate from svn, 3-4 green lights and you are a winner :) |
| 23:21.42 | Punkie` | that's true |
| 23:21.42 | vhaarr | sbu: make it part of SE-Mount, but don't make a hard dependency on Babble-Spell, imo |
| 23:21.44 | sbu | vhaarr: im using some additional datafile at the moment, i think its possible with using only babble (but dont know about flying/normal mounts) |
| 23:21.52 | vhaarr | sbu: like, make that functionality available if Babble-Spell is present |
| 23:22.00 | sbu | hmyep |
| 23:23.59 | NimbleRabit | Punkie`: find weakness is such a cool talent. Back when I was specced mutilate (left because my swords > my daggers) it was what made me love it |
| 23:24.08 | Punkie` | yep, i agree |
| 23:24.18 | Punkie` | I just love the whole build |
| 23:24.23 | dodgizzla | AKX: Is it okay if I post an error concerning DreamChat+Prat (that only occurs when using DreamChat) into your "DreamChat Ressurection" thread? |
| 23:24.26 | NimbleRabit | sadly whispering blades just didn't hit hard enough |
| 23:24.35 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 23:24.38 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 23:24.42 | theoddone33 | that's what I have |
| 23:24.48 | NimbleRabit | heh |
| 23:24.49 | Punkie` | well, if you play mutilate right, you can rock the damage meters |
| 23:24.50 | AKX | dodgizzla, could be better if you post it in some pastebin now ( http://paste.servut.us ) so I could take a look =) |
| 23:24.51 | theoddone33 | I feel a little undergeared |
| 23:24.57 | NimbleRabit | epic weapons > them |
| 23:24.57 | dodgizzla | AKX: Can do :> |
| 23:25.00 | NimbleRabit | even if they are good blues |
| 23:25.03 | Bruners | the new WAU is the <3 |
| 23:25.04 | theoddone33 | I'm geared for stam/res though |
| 23:25.05 | sylvanaar | The problem is that Prat hooks ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 23:25.06 | NimbleRabit | so I went back to combat |
| 23:25.10 | theoddone33 | so crappy AP |
| 23:25.12 | NimbleRabit | I'm use glad swords |
| 23:25.15 | NimbleRabit | using* |
| 23:25.41 | theoddone33 | is 1.8 good enough for CP? |
| 23:25.47 | dodgizzla | AKX: http://paste.servut.us/lxc |
| 23:26.11 | NimbleRabit | It's not the most ideal but it works ok |
| 23:26.13 | NimbleRabit | since snd is up |
| 23:26.16 | AKX | Interesting... You might want to talk to sylvanaar about that, dodgizzla |
| 23:26.21 | sbu | vhaarr: mounts (in babble) are there for cheap detection of mounts by aura name (for dogtag) - MountLib is just some byproduct ;o |
| 23:26.22 | AKX | He's been doing the Prat stuff, not me |
| 23:26.26 | theoddone33 | I played 60-63 as combat swords |
| 23:26.27 | theoddone33 | fun stuff |
| 23:26.28 | CIA-23 | 03saroz * r35895 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Prevent mass function creation when creating unit frames |
| 23:26.34 | sylvanaar | dodgizzla read up a few lines |
| 23:26.36 | Punkie` | Get a shifting sword :) |
| 23:26.40 | NimbleRabit | glad is better |
| 23:27.00 | dodgizzla | sylvanaar: Ah I see |
| 23:27.00 | Punkie` | i meant theoddone33 :) |
| 23:27.05 | NimbleRabit | he is mut |
| 23:27.06 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 23:27.12 | dodgizzla | If you already know about it then everything is okay :D |
| 23:27.23 | NimbleRabit | theoddone33: glad offhand is going to be 1.5 next patch woo |
| 23:27.27 | Punkie` | I know, but he was asking about a 1.8speed offhand ;) |
| 23:27.28 | theoddone33 | cool |
| 23:27.31 | theoddone33 | that's a nice buff |
| 23:27.36 | NimbleRabit | yeah |
| 23:27.39 | sylvanaar | dodgizzla i cant really unhook it |
| 23:27.46 | NimbleRabit | and holy crap solid star of elune is up to 75g on my server |
| 23:27.48 | NimbleRabit | that's just... |
| 23:27.56 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 23:28.01 | vodrin | won't gem prices come crashing down in 2.1 ? |
| 23:28.13 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 23:28.21 | theoddone33 | I'll have a JC at highish level in 2.1 |
| 23:28.23 | theoddone33 | it'd figure |
| 23:28.33 | Saroz | vhaarr, need meta table hax for FindUnitFrames, plx plx :| |
| 23:28.45 | dodgizzla | On another note.. I'd like to see a BigWigs plugin that autoreplies to whispers when there's a bossfight going on. I figure it should be possible because BigWigs knows when you engage a boss, so it would be a mere "I'm fighting <bla>. No time for talkie. Will reply after wipe or lewts." :D |
| 23:28.49 | vodrin | well 'prospecting gives guaranteed gems' =x |
| 23:29.06 | NimbleRabit | dodgizzla: I would love that plugin |
| 23:29.10 | theoddone33 | you really want bigwigs to do that for you? because there's already a plugin that does htat |
| 23:29.19 | theoddone33 | whispers back the percentage the boss you're fighting is at |
| 23:29.26 | NimbleRabit | what is the name of it? |
| 23:29.30 | theoddone33 | dunno what it's called but I had some friends using it :( |
| 23:29.40 | dodgizzla | theoddone33: Probably the integrated Deadly Boss Mods stuff |
| 23:29.54 | theoddone33 | it's a cool idea |
| 23:30.02 | NimbleRabit | I would want a bigwigs plugin for it personally |
| 23:30.02 | dodgizzla | Sure it is, but BigWigs has no such thingie :\ |
| 23:30.34 | Punkie` | In the humble words of vhaarr and Ammo, if you want it, go make it :) |
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| 23:31.18 | dodgizzla | sylvanaar: Yeah well, it's no big deal (well actually it is because DreamChat does not show any messages :o), I can stick to the default chat frames until DreamChat is fixed.. or redone.. or whatever :D |
| 23:31.19 | CIA-23 | 03saroz * r35896 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: Use :format() |
| 23:33.35 | ravagernl | does anyone know if buffalo2 is ready for use? |
| 23:33.47 | sylvanaar | dodgizzla i just dont have time to mess with it atm. if someone wants to fix it great |
| 23:35.31 | Neebler | http://www.qj.net/WoW-player-harrasses-woman-in-game-gets-beat-up-by-woman-s-husband-IRL/pg/49/aid/91058 |
| 23:35.54 | Punkie` | Neebler: welcome to last week :P |
| 23:36.03 | Punkie` | ravagernl: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6117.0 |
| 23:36.04 | kenlyric | s/week/month/ |
| 23:36.10 | Punkie` | hehe, true :P |
| 23:36.28 | ravagernl | thanks punk |
| 23:36.29 | theoddone33 | And then Carson made the mistake of giving the woman his address, telling the woman that "if her husband was man enough to just come meet me to settle this." |
| 23:36.31 | theoddone33 | hahaha :( |
| 23:36.33 | dodgizzla | sylvanaar: I'm not saying you should do it. I'm merely reporting the error :D Take all the time you need ;> |
| 23:37.00 | dodgizzla | sylvanaar: I'd fix it myself, but I'm to busy with other stuff. |
| 23:37.18 | dodgizzla | And besides that.. I don't really grasp how that Ace-magic works.. OOP in Lua is way beyond me |
| 23:37.32 | sylvanaar | dodgizzla atm because of the bug it breaks prat also so they cant run together at all |
| 23:38.12 | dodgizzla | sylvanaar: Yeah maybe that should be written in DreamChat's or Prat's changelog, so you won't get spammed with reports |
| 23:38.19 | Bruners | im getting this error http://ace.pastey.net/35734 when im trying whisper my friend Notarget |
| 23:38.27 | dodgizzla | I'll just disable DreamChat because I can't live without Prat :o |
| 23:38.38 | Bruners | anyone got a clue what it is? |
| 23:39.27 | Xuerian | Of course I do. What kind of masochist would I be if I didn't, Punkie`? |
| 23:39.50 | Punkie` | Xuerian: <3 |
| 23:40.22 | Xuerian | Argent Dawn US, horde side |
| 23:40.36 | CIA-23 | 03saroz * r35897 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: More cleanups |
| 23:40.44 | Punkie` | Aha :) |
| 23:48.08 | Funkeh` | gogo saroz |
| 23:48.17 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: that would be quite simple to make. |
| 23:48.22 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: let me know if you need any help. |
| 23:48.24 | vhaarr | Saroz: hm |
| 23:48.26 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: Show me your UI!! |
| 23:48.38 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 23:48.49 | Funkeh` | why would you want to see that |
| 23:48.56 | Punkie` | Because I bet it's a horrible mess |
| 23:49.42 | Funkeh` | i don't have anything recent |
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| 23:49.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 23:49.49 | vodrin | since when has 'blood pact' been in blizzard spell filtering for warlocks |
| 23:49.53 | Funkeh` | http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/980/wowscrnshot050607204719fa7.jpg few weeks |
| 23:49.55 | vodrin | or is that pitbull being special |
| 23:50.37 | nevcairiel | pitbull is special |
| 23:50.46 | nevcairiel | dunno tho |
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| 23:50.54 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: omg is that DBM i see? |
| 23:51.07 | Funkeh` | where would you see that dafty |
| 23:51.11 | Funkeh` | http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7066/wowscrnshot050607175753sm7.jpg out of raid |
| 23:51.18 | Punkie` | hehe, nah its pretty nice |
| 23:51.34 | NimbleRabit | Funkeh`: limit your target debuffs T_T |
| 23:51.40 | Punkie` | you have a weird name for a priest though :) |
| 23:51.48 | Funkeh` | NimbleRabit: no |
| 23:52.05 | NimbleRabit | what is that to the left of your player frame |
| 23:52.07 | NimbleRabit | debuffs? |
| 23:52.42 | Funkeh` | thats necb |
| 23:52.47 | vodrin | we have one attuned rogue |
| 23:52.52 | Funkeh` | getting rid of that for Quartz after 2.1 |
| 23:52.52 | vodrin | heard that was bad for solarian =x |
| 23:53.29 | NimbleRabit | what do the bars show |
| 23:53.31 | NimbleRabit | I never used necb |
| 23:53.45 | NimbleRabit | but clearly it's not him casting 6 different things? |
| 23:53.51 | Funkeh` | timers for debuffs |
| 23:54.15 | vodrin | or being 4 different classes |
| 23:54.15 | Funkeh` | time untill they expire |
| 23:54.18 | vodrin | that would be imba |
| 23:54.33 | NimbleRabit | but only |
| 23:54.35 | NimbleRabit | certain debuffs? |
| 23:55.03 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 23:55.03 | NimbleRabit | how it chose those 6 doesn't make sense to me |
| 23:55.12 | vodrin | probably just poor setup! |
| 23:55.14 | Funkeh` | it has filters |
| 23:55.45 | CIA-23 | 03jncl * r35898 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:55.45 | CIA-23 | Skinner: Skinned ItemEnchantApplication |
| 23:55.45 | CIA-23 | - Updated ACP, load buttons don't overlap the scroll bar anymore |
| 23:55.48 | NimbleRabit | I like how your bigwigs timer is next to ktm |
| 23:55.49 | NimbleRabit | makes sense |
| 23:56.56 | Funkeh` | well atm mu ui is a bit broken, changed some things around, waiting for 2.1 so i can fix it again |
| 23:58.06 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: yeah I just redone mine the past few days, really liking it but I am going to have to change some things like ClassTimers or so instead of chron :) |
| 23:58.19 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 23:58.25 | Funkeh` | need to figure out where to place the stuff |
| 23:58.33 | Funkeh` | and cba doing that untill patch day |
| 23:58.39 | vhaarr | Saroz: would be nice if you could get rid of all the "Buff_" and "Debuff_" string concats |
