IRC log for #wowace on 20070518

00:00.30nymbiasure
00:01.08Diaothanks
00:01.43Keitacan i make the description of an element in an AceOptions data table to depend on a paramter so it changes dinamically?
00:02.16Funkeh`nymbia: did ya check that error? ;p
00:02.43vhaarrKeita: no
00:03.00Keitathx vhaar
00:03.40nevcairieli wish people would thank me when i say no :/
00:04.17nymbiaFunkeh`: nope, went out to get food.
00:04.20nymbiaFunkeh`:  ;)
00:04.26Funkeh`you suck
00:04.45vhaarrhehe
00:05.58nymbiaFunkeh`: how'd you manage that?
00:06.12Funkeh`i unticked 'lock' on target menu
00:06.39nymbiabut somehow the casting var is set but the endTime var isn't
00:07.02Funkeh`it showed a movable bar but it was the last thing Al'ar casted
00:07.05Funkeh`instead of the usualy frame
00:07.21Funkeh`released whilst casting maybe?
00:07.31nymbianaw that's how it is for now
00:07.59sylvanaarKeita you can sorta, but its not straightforward at all
00:10.29nymbiadoable with some metatable hax
00:10.44nymbiabut why?
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00:14.40HjalteDoes anyone know why Autobar only recognices a very little part of my use: quest items?
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00:16.52sylvanaarSpamMeNot + Prat = Disaster
00:17.31Funkeh`well 2.1 should see a reduction in the need to anti spam mods
00:17.52Funkeh`just gotta see how good their filters are
00:18.12sylvanaarperhaps its coded like prat in which case that wont work - there can only be 1
00:20.50sylvanaarah, it doesnt set the global event
00:21.11NimbleRabithmmm
00:21.13Keitabuy guys, happy coding
00:21.23NimbleRabitdon't believe quartz when it says half your bar is lag
00:21.25NimbleRabitlol
00:21.56aen`finally finished the ui
00:21.56aen`http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1357/uicgb2.jpg
00:22.03XuerianI'd imagine it isn't pulling from a smoothed latency reading, so it's perfectly reasonable if it shows spikes :p
00:22.19Gngskaen`, can't be finished with your UI at lvl 29!
00:23.08NimbleRabitReasonable, yes
00:23.11NimbleRabitjust saying: don't believe it
00:23.17NimbleRabitI interrupted my own spell like 4 times
00:23.17aen`i havent played in 6 mos, rerolled a pally and was sick of the default :D
00:24.01XuerianNimbleRabit: lol, you need a familiarity with your own lag anyway. Though I'm sure nymbia would do good to have at least a small delta on the latency readings
00:24.21sylvanaarself:Hook(AceEvent, "TriggerEvent", "AceEvent_TriggerEvent", true)
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00:25.04NimbleRabitXuerian, I do have a prettty good familiarity actually.  Before I had quartz I ending all my casts early anyways
00:25.29NimbleRabitI was just experimenting with trusting quartz 100% for a while
00:30.43XuerianNimbleRabit: heh, that came out as more of a criticism than I meant :P
00:30.43hyperChipmunkckknight comes and hunts you down and hangs your skin from the rafters for everyone to see
00:30.43nymbiawhy would anyone need to do that for any reason?
00:30.43sylvanaarhe says
00:30.44sylvanaar-- This should mean I don't have to write individual code
00:30.44sylvanaar-- for every Ace2 mod that deals with chat messages.  Most but not all, I'm sure.
00:30.44nymbiabut doesn't it just block messages from appearing in the chat frame?
00:30.44nymbiawhy not just stop it at the highest level instead of intercepting events?
00:30.44NightHawkTheSanebecause who ever wrote that is an idiot?
00:30.44Kaeltenhooking aceevent:trigerevent is a bad idea
00:30.45Megalonevolution never fails at building better idiots
00:30.45XuerianXD
00:30.45NightHawkTheSaneWhat'd be even worse is triggering an event inside that hook.
00:30.45nymbiahook ChatFrameX.AddMessage instead, jeez
00:31.05Xueriannymbia: Though it's a moronic implementation, he has a point; DreamChat?
00:31.15sylvanaari know, that mod breaks prat in ugly ways
00:31.27AKXWhat does?
00:31.33sylvanaarSpamMeNot
00:31.35AKXAh.
00:31.49XuerianSorry, AKX :p
00:31.51sylvanaarDC is fine
00:31.54AKXHeheh
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00:32.15nymbiaXuerian: but it's a scrolling message frame, too, afaik.. just hook DreamChatFrameX.AddMessage as well (or whatever their frames are called)
00:32.35Xueriannymbia: Like I said, horrible implementation, but what he said is a viable point
00:32.52sylvanaarWhen mixed with prat's capture/add-back system of processing chat, blows up
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00:33.46sylvanaarAKX btw, have you thought about adding timestamps to DC?
00:33.54nymbiabut it's so easy to get around
00:34.05nymbiain ways that arent horrible and painful
00:34.06hyperChipmunkisn't DC a layout mod?
00:34.14AKXYeah... But sylvanaar, for some reason my DreamChat doesn't show ANY Prat-generated messages.
00:34.19AKX(I do need to SVN Update though.)
00:34.22XuerianYes, but it uses it's own frames
00:34.22sylvanaarno, DC is a replacement chat frame
00:34.33NimbleRabithyperChipmunk, I added a single item to autosend and that item wouldn't send.  Soul Essence was the item
00:34.37hyperChipmunkyea, that's what i meant
00:34.47aen`god, i want to figure out w hy bagnon pauses for a half second when it opens
00:34.49hyperChipmunkis it a mailable item?
00:35.01ThraeDreamChat should just give the option to change the global DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.
00:35.05sylvanaari dont want to hook DC
00:35.09NimbleRabitI think so, it's not soulbound
00:35.22sylvanaarhooks are ugly
00:35.34AKXThrae, I planned that. Also, uhm, I hereby give formal permission to just commit to DreamChat if you make something useful for it.
00:35.34hyperChipmunkhow did you add it?
00:35.36hyperChipmunkitemID?
00:35.39NimbleRabityes
00:35.47hyperChipmunkand it shows up on the list?
00:35.47NightHawkTheSane(yes, Soul Essence is mailable, to be sure)
00:35.56ThraeOr hook the ChatFrame.AddMessage
00:35.58NimbleRabityeah it's on the list, under the person to be mailed.  Doesn't queue though
00:36.21NimbleRabitcome to think of it I don't know if I tried relogging, guess I should before going any further
00:36.33sylvanaarAKX how about a stub implementation for timestamps which just defers to a provider
00:36.47AKXSure.
00:37.18hyperChipmunkalright, can you do a /dump BulkMail.db.realm.autoSendRules.<destination>.include.items for me? replace <destination> with the person's name it's under that you want to send it to
00:37.19ThraeAKX: You need reverse binary incursion, coupled with fluxuating datum lists.
00:37.41AKXfunction BuzzwordGenerator(...) end
00:37.45chutwigbye bye tsericccc
00:38.18XuerianHe's getting booted?
00:38.25chutwighe's gone
00:38.28Xuerianowned.
00:38.30chutwigthe way eyonix phrased it makes me think he got canned
00:38.32NimbleRabithyperChipmunk, I'm on an alt but I did it and { "21882" } showed up
00:38.37chutwigfor being a total fuckhead douchebag, no doubt
00:38.47sylvanaarAKX, can you point me to the right place to add it?
00:39.31hyperChipmunkNimbleRabit: that's perfect, thanks
00:39.39hyperChipmunki know the problem
00:39.40hyperChipmunkactually
00:39.43hyperChipmunki think i fixed it already
00:39.49NightHawkTheSanechutwig: linky?
00:39.51AKXsylvanaar, I'd add something like "if DreamChat.timestampProvider then str=DreamChat.timestampProvider(str) end" before getglobal(self.name):AddMessage(str,r,g,b,1) in FrameClass
00:39.55NimbleRabitoh, I haven't updated in a while
00:39.58chutwighttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104492124&sid=1&pageNo=1
00:39.59NimbleRabitguess I'll go do that now
00:40.11hyperChipmunkyea, get the new one and delete the rule and re-add it
00:40.36NimbleRabityou know I don't think soul essence is in any other category
00:40.37NimbleRabitcrazy item
00:40.53NimbleRabitany category*
00:41.19Xuerian<PROTECTED>
00:42.05XuerianProbably had a psychotic break from dealing with all the wow players or something <.<
00:43.26CIA-2303ayunyan * r35735 10ChatAssist2/ (14 files in 3 dirs):
00:43.26CIA-23ChatAssist2: initial commit
00:43.27CIA-23- Your chat frame is made more comfortable.
00:43.58art3miswhat happened to caydiem?
00:44.05art3misi know fnagtooth had a fit and was let go
00:44.09Funkeh`erm
00:44.17Funkeh`they removed blizz feedback in latest PTR
00:44.20Funkeh`must be final?
00:44.32art3misno they just stopped craing about players input ;P
00:44.33NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: nah, they're just tired of hearing you complain about actual isues.
00:44.35art3miscaring
00:44.41Funkeh`hahaha NightHawkTheSane
00:45.06CIA-2303nymbia * r35736 10Quartz/Swing/Swing.lua:
00:45.06CIA-23Quartz_Swing:
00:45.06CIA-23- For now, kill the bar for dual-wielding players, let's get 2handers right first.
00:45.06CIA-23- Tweaks in logic and updates, should work pretty well for 2h weapons in most cases, let me know how well it handles haste buffs.
00:45.16Funkeh`i reported two things, at least one fo them got fixed
00:45.47art3miswow!
00:45.54art3miswhy thats like a 80% fix ratio!
00:46.02Funkeh`lol?
00:46.08art3mis<-- bad at math
00:46.11CIA-2303ayunyan * r35737 10ChatAssist2Options/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
00:46.11CIA-23ChatAssist2Options: initial commit
00:46.11CIA-23- Options for ChatAssist2.
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00:49.38CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35738 10DreamChat/ (Core.lua DreamChat_FrameClass.lua): DreamChat: Some pending changes so DC uses Prat's frame registy API (event though its not complete). Also addeda a stub for a time stamp provider
00:53.23knarf-is there any swingtimer for pitbull targetframe?
00:54.30a-stray-catckknight: you around?
00:55.51KillmoreIt is possible to add a timer on bigwigs with a "/" command
00:55.58Killmore?
00:56.18vhaarr<PROTECTED>
00:56.23vhaarr<PROTECTED>
00:56.43Diaolol
00:56.49vhaarr<PROTECTED>
00:59.09Boubouilleany good sysadmin here ? got a question.
00:59.27kebinusanvhaarr: you cant seem to click the bars to disable stop them
00:59.49vhaarrkebinusan: stop them with the same command and 0 as time
00:59.52kebinusanI accidentally did a bwcb 1200 pizza timer the other day no one in the raid could make it go away
00:59.53kebinusanah cool
00:59.55kebinusangood to know
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01:00.13Funkeh`mass /rl? :P
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01:01.35NightHawkTheSanekebinusan: but at least you were certain not to forget when your pizza was done.
01:02.21Funkeh`rofl
01:02.36Funkeh`night, always seeing the positive side
01:03.18NightHawkTheSaneHey, i've burned way too much food and/or cookware because I've forgotten about it. ;)
01:04.06Killmorevhaarr: thank you !
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01:04.11CIA-2303ayunyan * r35739 10ChatAssist2/:
01:04.11CIA-23ChatAssist2:
01:04.11CIA-23- setup library externals
01:04.45CIA-2303ayunyan * r35740 10ChatAssist2Options/:
01:04.45CIA-23ChatAssist2Options:
01:04.45CIA-23- setup library externals
01:04.47Killmorevhaarr: it is possible to send a "global timer" to a specific list or group of players ?
01:04.53vhaarrno
01:06.20CIA-2303funkydude * r35741 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (7 files in 7 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Item/Loot update
01:08.21Diaooh chatassist2 got converted to ace?
01:09.43art3misgigantor the space age robot
01:09.45art3mishe's at
01:09.48art3misyou command
01:09.54NimbleRabitvhaarr, what does the CB stand for in that command
01:10.04Gngskcustom bar
01:10.32NimbleRabitahh
01:10.39NimbleRabitI wouldn't be able to remember it without knowing
01:10.40NimbleRabit=D
01:10.52Gngskbigwigs [local] custom bar
01:11.19NimbleRabitI'm going to abuse that so much
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01:12.44Guillotineanybody have any idea why PitBull would be bugging out and no longer showing frames for no apparent reason?
01:13.26Funkeh`NimbleRabit: im going to abuse you!
01:13.35Funkeh`NimbleRabit: just ask nymbia
01:14.35nymbiaseriously
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01:15.02NimbleRabitlol
01:15.28NimbleRabitso I'm sitting there
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01:15.32NimbleRabitand this warlock in my guild says
01:15.40NimbleRabit"WTF YOU SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO BUY BOOKS YOUR PET ALREADY KNOWS"
01:15.41NightHawkTheSaneshow me on the doll where Funkeh` abused you?
01:16.12NimbleRabitimagine that, buying all those books
01:16.14NimbleRabitnot realizing..
01:16.24CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35742 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Timestamps.lua: Prat: Add format provider interface
01:16.28Funkeh`it says 'already known' on them for pets?
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01:16.37MegalonNimbleRabit: you know the old way to rename your warlock pet? :>
01:16.57NightHawkTheSaneNimbleRabit: well he has a point.. but.. how does one buy that many books without -realizing- that his pet might, just maybe, know some of htem already?
01:16.58Megalon"wtf i have to buy all petspells again" :>
01:17.06NimbleRabitNightHawkTheSane, I have no idea
01:17.18NimbleRabitMegalon, I heard about it
01:17.20CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35743 10DreamChat/DreamChat_FrameClass.lua: DreamChat: Lazy implementation of GetFormatProvider
01:17.46MegalonNimbleRabit: it was /script PetAbandon()
01:17.49NimbleRabitright
01:17.54Megalonwhich was the hunter api for abandon your pet
01:18.02Megalonbut as a warlock, you just resummoned it
01:18.23Megalonbut wow deleted your old one, so you got a new one
01:18.29Megalonwith a new random name, but without spells :D
01:18.37NimbleRabithah
01:18.45Funkeh`later all
01:19.38sylvanaarwhat is chat assist?
01:20.21sylvanaarand what will it break
01:20.30art3miswhat it sounds like and everything ;P
01:21.16sylvanaaran out of combat target the person who sent you a tell?
01:21.16Diaolol
01:21.20Diaoit provides support for unicode ingame i think
01:21.21Aenslaedsylvanaar: I've had terrible luck with getting dreamchat to work.  Every time I've had it running, it just spams a ton of errors relating to pratplugin, and doesn't output any text
01:21.42sylvanaarthose are hints
01:21.43Diaodo you have prat plugin?
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01:22.32Aenslaedyes I do
01:22.34sylvanaarI had uncommitted code - so its possible - but, you'd need to tell me there error
01:23.01AKXsylvanaar: DC nevertheless shouldn't rely on Prat, so if such errors pop up, there's not enough guard code...
01:23.05Aenslaedsylvanaar: I'll try it again in a bit. I didn't remember the errors in specific.
01:23.21kergothis DC being actively developed?
01:23.27AKXAlso, sylvanaar, if you're working on DC, add more cowbell.
01:23.37bigzeroquestion about option tables: The order value tells ace how to order the options in the menu?
01:25.40sylvanaari have enough to do, im just making them work together
01:27.25vhaarrbigzero: yes
01:28.32bigzerowhat am I doing wrong then? http://ace.pastey.net/33487 I get conditions, events, spells in the menu
01:29.41bigzeroI'm talking about the console menu too, not a dewdrop
01:29.58art3misdid you sacrifice a chicken on the new moon and pray to the goddess Nicotinus to grant you a boon while drinking the chicken's blood?
01:30.35art3miscuz that might be the problem
01:30.35vhaarrbigzero: console options are always ordered alphabetically, and the AceOptions docs should say so.
01:30.35bigzerodamn it...it was a chicken? I sacrificed a cow
01:30.35TainI bet it's lupus
01:30.50art3mischicken blood for code cowbell for greatness ;P
01:32.12bigzerovhaarr, ah, I saw the default options under them, which made it seem out of order, so I figured it must be by order value as well. Thanks for the help
01:32.29art3misvhaarr
01:32.42art3misstop that ;)
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01:32.52art3miswhos gonna take over as crothety kow it all when ckk grows up and gets a job ;P
01:32.57art3miscrotchety
01:33.07art3misknow
01:34.00Tainhah ckk barely qualifies as crotchety
01:34.18art3mismake fun of his code some time ;P
01:34.49TainBeen doing that for years!
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01:46.00ckknighthey all
01:46.01ckknightback
01:46.09vodrinso who wants to make a updated 'perfecttargets' with playertarget etc. ? :D
01:46.13vodrinan*
01:46.22ckknightI cede my power to no man!
01:46.32vodrinand i had a hard time making bigwigs modules so thats not the answer :<
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01:46.48Thraevodrin: It's on my to-do list. Version 3.0 with Focus support is already available.
01:46.55vodrin\o/
01:46.58vodrin<3
01:47.00vhaarrvodrin: what modules?
01:47.18vodrinsorry i meant boss stuff
01:47.19Thraevodrin: http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/
01:47.42ThraePT will be getting updated for 2.1 anyhow.
01:47.50vodrini made a 4horseman boss thingy telling everyone where to go including voices from out dutch token girl
01:48.10vodrintah Thrae
01:48.39ckknighta-stray-cat: pong
01:49.09vodrinour*.. bugger i'm drunk after 2 cans
01:50.09ckknighthyperChipmunk: ick, that's gross, hanging their skin. It'd be quicker and easier to just hang them by their legs and carve something into their body
01:51.08hyperChipmunk<3
01:51.53shieldbhmm.. pitbull raidframes are unhappy
01:52.34ckknightomfg PTR patch
01:52.37shieldbPitBull-r35702\PitBull.lua:3030: bad argument #1 to 'concat' (table contains non-strings)
01:52.39ckknightsomeone get me a diff yet?
01:52.48ckknightshieldb: punk asses.
01:54.06aen`AceEvent:TriggerEvent
01:54.42CIA-2303ckknight * r35744 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix raid filtering.
01:54.52ckknightshieldb, CAL|Smeltn: ^---
01:55.26shieldb<3
01:55.48Brunersdamn WAU 1.8 checks versions fast!
01:56.13sylvanaaromg im an idiot
01:56.27sylvanaari d/l spam me not, and then forgot
01:56.50ckknightlol, sylvanaar
01:57.09ckknightsylvanaar: considering making AceHook-2.1 check if what you're hooking comes from a library, and thus preventing it
01:57.40sylvanaarcoool
01:57.51ckknightgah, need to take a shower
01:58.10ckknightbtw, anyone have a druid?
01:58.19ckknightis Tree Form just called Tree Form?
01:58.30Brunerswas Lost aired in the US tonight ?
01:58.51ckknightBruners: yesterday
01:59.27Brunerskk
01:59.34Brunersas long as it was aired :)
01:59.57Adyshttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/tseric-has-now-left-the-building/ shit, is that ols already?
02:00.00Adysold/
02:00.41sylvanaarI think i have to exit the game or logout to recover
02:01.41sylvanaarckknight if you are feeling really nice you can add a sequence number to aceevent, which increments on each event ^.^
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02:02.53ckknightTseric is actually gone
02:02.55ckknighthard to believe
02:02.59ckknightfrankly, it'd piss me off if I had to deal with whiny customer trolls all day
02:03.32AdysI just linked that :<
02:03.47AdysShit, Im blind
02:05.02NimbleRabitdoes anyone know how to make a "Food and Water" bag in sanitybags
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02:06.27Brunersckknight: sure it was yesterday ?
02:12.06sylvanaarAKX want to tell me how to get the event to pass to Prat? you know offhand?
02:13.09aen`why does pitbull put the buffs inside the frame when its on the left side?
02:14.11Thorgardaen`, 'cause you've set the grow direction to right and down, probably
02:14.16aen`tried it
02:14.21aen`still puts the first buff inside the frame
02:15.15ckknightBruners: I downloaded and watched it yesterday
02:15.39Bruners3x21?
02:16.27a-stray-cathey ckknight, how accurate are the distances that cartographer shows?
02:16.59ckknighta-stray-cat: could be off by a yard, theoretically.
02:17.08ckknightyes, Bruners
02:17.11a-stray-cati was testing it earlier today
02:17.19ckknighta-stray-cat: k
02:17.23a-stray-catand it ended up saying my 8 yard minimum range was 14 yards
02:17.27a-stray-catmelee range 7 yards
02:17.33Brunersckknight: hmm, why cant i find it
02:18.03ckknightBruners: eztvefnet.org
02:18.12a-stray-catit does correspond with flare's range though, when i stand 10 yards away from someone flare comes exactly to their feet
02:18.14ckknighta-stray-cat: hrm...
02:18.27a-stray-cati think flare's range may be broken though.
02:18.40Brunersckknight: found it now, slackers at TB
02:18.48a-stray-catsince i can't hit someone at the edge of flare range with my ranged attacks
02:18.50ckknightTB?
02:18.59Brunerstorrentbytes
02:22.59ckknightis it good?
02:23.19kenlyrichow can you not love this, if you've been on the internet for any period of time "You've backpeddled into the troll excuse. You have no point. You have no meaning. You have no significance. You will be forgotten. "
02:23.27Brunersi get full speed atleast, 1.8mb/s
02:23.41ckknightBruners: that's nice
02:28.47CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35745 10DreamChat/ (Core.lua DreamChat_FrameClass.lua Messaging.lua): DreamChat: Compatibility Fixes
02:29.44binderis there a mod package that I can have my healers get that's pretty light that will either emote or yell out who they're rezing, I don't feel like having them try macros lol
02:30.14kenlyricdoesn't their raid mod do that?
02:30.30CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35746 10PratPlugin-1.0/PratPlugin-1.0/PratPlugin-1.0.lua: PratPlugin-1.0: Updates
02:30.34kenlyricCTRA, ora, etc.
02:30.34bindernot sure, I think most of them use ctraid
02:30.52kenlyricmost raid mods have a rez monitor. They just have to turn it on.
02:30.58kenlyricand CTRA and oRA work together.
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02:35.34ckknightanyone have a druid?
02:36.31Megaloni has a lvl60 dr00d
02:40.46Cryectyeah ckknight
02:41.39CIA-2303ckknight * r35747 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - change DruidForm to check auras instead of going by the model, which was causing lag issues.
02:42.01ckknighttest.
02:42.11CryectHeh can't in middle of raid and don't use pitbull
02:42.21ckknightwell you suck, then
02:42.25Cryectthanks :)
02:42.32ckknightMegalon: wanna test?
02:42.37ckknight:-P
02:43.07CryectOn side note have a mode 7 texture library kinda made
02:43.33ckknightwhat's a mode 7 texture?
02:43.38Aenslaedckknight: middle of a raid too, but I'll try in 5 seconds
02:43.47Aenslaederr, 5 mins
02:43.48CryectMode 7 was a texture moding on the SNES
02:43.59Cryectthat allows you have different scalings for eveyr horizontal lines
02:44.09Cryectand allowed texture rotations and offsets
02:44.15Aenslaedstarfox!
02:44.29Megalonyes?
02:44.30Megalonhm
02:44.32Cryectstarfox didn't use mode 7 so much as it used the super fx chip
02:44.48Megalon<3 starfox games
02:44.48Cryectmode 7 was used for things like mario kart, f zero, overworld in FF6
02:44.53Aenslaedoh, fzero did too
02:45.51CIA-2303ckknight * r35748 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix bug with cleanText
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02:47.39SHIFT_nismobe back in a bit
02:49.08VordaAnyone happends to know how to fix this one: [2007/05/18 04:47:14-172-x1]: SpamSentry\core.lua:13: AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: Library "WhoLib-1.0" does not exist.Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:100: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:53> ? (Im using WAU with stand alone libs)
02:49.18ckknightyou get WhoLib-1.0
02:49.19Megalonckknight: ok, logged in with my druid
02:49.23ckknightis that not obvious?
02:49.28Megalonanything special i should do?
02:49.34ckknightMegalon: shift and see if the class text will change to Druid (Bear)
02:49.39ckknightetc
02:49.43CAL|Smeltnthat was nice
02:49.48CAL|Smeltnyou didnt take that out did you?
02:49.49MegalonDruid (Bear) Tauren
02:49.59ckknightMegalon: check all your shifts
02:50.03ckknightCAL|Smeltn: ?
02:50.07VordaOk, it was.. sorry.
02:50.14CAL|Smeltnwas hoping you didnt take out that shift name
02:50.18CAL|Smeltn<PROTECTED>
02:50.20CAL|Smeltnlol
02:50.30CAL|Smeltnwas I right on the raid group disappearing?
02:50.46ckknightit was a bug, I put i instead of v
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02:50.50ckknighttypos ftw
02:51.03ckknightMegalon: what's mostly important are the non-bear non-cat ones
02:51.05CAL|Smeltnahh
02:51.13Megalonckknight: work for cat, travel, moonkin. can't test flight/aqua form :o
02:51.34Megalonoh, i can test aquatic form in moonglade
02:51.46bigzeroI'm a little lost with the option tables again. If I want an option to execute a funtion, I would just make it type = 'execute' and func = someFuncInMyAddon?
02:51.57ckknightMegalon: good enough
02:52.08ckknightyes, bigzero
02:52.49bigzeroor would I do self:funcName? I saw there was a handler parameter. would I put self in there?
02:52.55theoddone33you found a way to do it that doesn't need model checks eh?
02:52.59theoddone33that's pretty cool
02:53.00Megalonckknight: Druid (Aquatic) ... work
02:53.10ckknightMegalon: woot
02:53.18ckknightMegalon: it should be much more efficient now
02:53.46ckknighttheoddone33: just does it by aura now
02:53.50ckknightyes, bigzero
02:53.57ckknightbigzero: handler = self if you're using methods
02:54.09ckknightbigzero: handler = self, func = "funcName"
02:54.13ckknightthat does self:funcName()
02:54.29bigzerockknight, funcName in quotes?
02:54.36Megalonckknight: don't know if it's the font, but 'Moonkin' looks more like 'Moon kin'
02:54.45ckknightbigzero: yes.
02:54.48bigzerockknight, ty
02:54.49ckknightMegalon: font.
02:54.53Megalonok :)
02:55.02ckknightMegalon: Moonkin transforms into BOOMKIN!
02:55.33bigzerockknight, one more thing, does the typed in text after the option get passed as an argument?
02:56.31bigzerockknight, like /addon someoption this would "this" get passed into the function specified?
02:57.21ckknightself.
02:57.32ckknightwait
02:57.32ckknightno
02:57.37ckknightno, it wouldn't
02:57.42ckknightfor that, use type = 'text'
02:57.44ckknightget = false
02:58.03ckknightset = function(stuffs) assert(stuffs == "this") end
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02:58.34bigzerockknight, alright, I'll work with that then
02:58.37bigzerockknight, thanks
02:58.52ckknightyou're welcome
02:59.51Megalonckknight: erm, standing alone in moonglade, moonkinform, switching config modes for pitbull, everytime i switch to raid, the game freezes for quite some time
03:00.14ckknightmmm... yea
03:00.22ckknightI know
03:00.23XuerianBoomkin. I'm liking this new nickname for my class :p
03:00.24Megalonnormal? don't know
03:00.49ckknightI'll try to figure out why it's taking so long
03:00.57theoddone33I've always heard OOMkin
03:01.07Xueriantheoddone33: Yeah.
03:01.19ckknighttheoddone33: just tack on a B
03:01.30theoddone33badly out of mana?
03:01.33theoddone33heh
03:01.50ckknightlol
03:01.57Xueriantheoddone33: Just think of a moonkin dressed ghetto style, all bling-bling out the wing-wing, moonbeaming out his ...nizzle.... thing.... yeah... coffee anyone?
03:02.18Megalonckknight: i think i got it
03:02.35Megalonckknight: or is it intended that group #1 to group #8 all got 40 frames?
03:03.03ckknighteach should have 5
03:03.09ckknightmaking 40 total
03:03.17ckknightis that what you have?
03:03.21Megalonnope
03:03.28ckknightfudgetastic
03:03.35ckknightfudge, I tells ya!
03:03.55XuerianFudgenickers?
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03:04.47ckknightMegalon: works fine for me...
03:04.53ckknighthey Seerah_
03:05.11Seerah_hi ckknight
03:05.34Megalonhttp://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot051807045532qy7.jpg
03:05.40Megalonnot so fine for my druid :D
03:05.53Megaloni'll go and try do delete the SV for pitbull
03:05.57XuerianOh my 0_o
03:06.22Brunersisnt that just scaling ?
03:06.46Seerah_scaling would be what I would guess...
03:06.53XuerianI count at least 70 there
03:08.24Seerah_scaling and spacing
03:08.24XuerianOne per star, eight rows of stars
03:08.24Brunerstrue
03:08.24Xuerianwell no
03:08.24Xuerianeight columns
03:08.24ckknightMegalon: what grouping style are you set to?
03:08.24Seerah_oh, hello....  there are two of each
03:08.24Xuerianeleven rows at least
03:08.24Xuerian88 =D
03:08.24Seerah_wait, I see 3 #40s
03:08.24Megalonckknight: erm, i didn't config anything, vanilla
03:08.25Xuerian0.o
03:08.25ckknightk
03:08.25Megalonand then shift-clicking the minimap icon
03:08.25Xuerianckknight: Have you been on some type of raid we don't know about? >.>
03:08.31Megalonit's like every group got raid1-40 just starting at different numbers
03:08.38ckknighthrm
03:08.40ckknightworks in PTR :-P
03:08.44ckknightlemme test live
03:08.47Seerah_I'd hate to be a healer in that raid, X ;)
03:08.49Megalonwell, that's from live :D
03:08.51XuerianXD
03:08.55Megalonhehe
03:09.25ckknightSeerah_: you see the arbitrary text positioning I put into PitBull's ABF layout?
03:09.58Seerah_I saw it got put in, but I haven't gotten that version yet to look at
03:10.14ckknightk
03:10.57Seerah_anything special a noob like me should know before looking at it? ;)
03:11.37ckknightSeerah_: does your layout do more than reposition the name and class texts?
03:11.57Seerah_it bumps up the auras when set to top
03:12.07Seerah_and changes the ratio for bar heights
03:12.10Seerah_but that's it
03:13.42ckknightk
03:14.28ckknightI'll have to move the auras...
03:14.42Seerah_hmm?
03:15.37ckknightSeerah_: trying to destroy your layout in the most malevolent way possible
03:15.42ckknightby stealing features
03:15.45ckknightmwahaha
03:15.48ckknight;-)
03:15.50Seerah_haha
03:16.14Megalonckknight: deleted SV, and got the lockup again
03:16.22ckknightblah
03:16.26Megalon:O
03:16.27ckknightI'm working on it
03:16.38Megalonk
03:17.17Seerah_he may *seem* like a robot, but he is only human ;)
03:18.29ckknightpants.
03:18.54XuerianOf chocolate.
03:19.52Brunershttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28579#M0z anyone testet this thing?
03:20.21Brunerscould it be good for a hunter?
03:20.33sdoubleisn't everything?
03:20.51Seerah_extra damage that's unmitigated by armor?
03:22.43ckknightMegalon: ah, I know the issue
03:22.57ckknightMegalon: I'll be disabling raid filtering for WoW 2.1 so I don't have to do extra work
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03:24.34CIA-23Quartz_Swing:
03:24.34CIA-23- bugfix for attack speed changes when not attacking.
03:24.36hyperChipmunki hate ppl who train FD hunters on a wipe...[Gruul the Dragonkiller] Hurtful Strike [You] 14267.
03:24.44hyperChipmunkdarn near killed me =\
03:24.54ckknightwhat do you mean?
03:25.09Brunersdidnt understand that either
03:25.20sylvanaaryeah, the DC/prat stuff is broken
03:25.53BrunershyperChipmunk: running towards you FD'ing ?
03:25.58hyperChipmunki was FD and someone dragged this giant boss dude to me and he had the audacity to thwack me
03:26.30hyperChipmunklike the gate was going to open and they wwere gonna get away
03:26.57CIA-2303ckknight * r35750 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - disable raid filtering in WoW 2.0. There's a bug in the configmode functions that I don't feel like fixing and is just easier to wait till WoW 2.1
03:27.01BrunershyperChipmunk: ahh :) know the feeling
03:27.11Megalonckknight: k :D
03:27.22ckknightMegalon: it should work for you now, though
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03:28.25ckknighthey WobWork
03:28.29Megalonckknight: hooray
03:28.35Wobworkheya ck =)
03:29.26Brunersckknight: is it possible to have a look at your ui ? :)
03:30.07ckknightmmm... why?
03:30.23ckknightnothing special to it
03:30.27Megalonhe wants to know if you use pitbull or agUF :D
03:30.32Brunershehe
03:30.34ckknightbartender at the bottom
03:30.38ckknightchat frame on the left
03:30.48ckknightbottom-left, I mean
03:30.52ckknightquest tracker on the bottom-right
03:31.13ckknightPitBull player/target/tot/totot below my toon
03:31.19ckknightparty/raid to the left
03:31.31ckknightFuBar up top, only one bar
03:31.41ckknightsimpleMinimap in the top-right
03:31.46CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35751 10DreamChat/DreamChat_FrameClass.lua: DreamChat: Due to change in load order, Prat hooks CF_MEH after Dreamchat creates frames, so dreamchat frames pass through the hook
03:32.03sdoubleseems kind of like a "What are you wearing" answer.
03:32.06sdouble=P
03:32.10Seerah_oh, he did that yesterday
03:32.22Seerah_was that yesterday? :P
03:32.27CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35752 10PratPlugin-1.0/PratPlugin-1.0/PratPlugin-1.0.lua: PratPlugin-1.0: Updated, but doesnt work with dreamchat atm
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03:32.39Brunersckknight: clean and simple then :)
03:32.46CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35753 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat:
03:32.55ckknightBruners: yep, like to keep things minimalistic
03:33.03ckknighton my bartender, I only have like 6 buttons :-P
03:33.10ckknightI do most things through click casting
03:33.13ckknightor sheer force of will
03:33.22Seerah_what class?
03:33.46chutwigclick for victory
03:34.03Brunerstrying to make it clea on my warlock but i have to many buttons :P
03:34.06XuerianWarlock + offensive using click casting only = ftw
03:34.13chutwigfeh
03:34.15Xuerianheadache, but ftw
03:34.20chutwigi managed to fit everything on 6 bars
03:34.22ckknightpally
03:34.55chutwigexcept for firestone
03:34.55chutwigbut firestones are only used for lulz
03:34.55nymbiauser interfaces are for chumps
03:34.55ckknighttru dat
03:34.56nymbia./cast everything imo
03:34.56Brunersckknight: how do you manage all the stuff with 6 buttons?
03:34.56chutwighttp://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i45/erhudy/?action=view&current=CUSTOMERSERVICE.jpg
03:34.57XuerianBruners: Keep two scaled down semi-transparent bars somewhere for your summons, pots, whatever misc spells you need. Only bother with directly harmful or helpful on clicks
03:35.00chutwigBruners: paladin healing is like whack-a-mole
03:35.02Seerah_my poor memory can hardly remember what I have bound to shift-right click in click2cast
03:35.05chutwigyou have two buttons
03:35.07chutwigthe big heal
03:35.09chutwigand the not big heal
03:35.10ckknightBruners: nah, not 6 buttons, more like 1-7 and f1-f5
03:35.15ckknightso 12, I guess
03:35.52ckknightstill, not much
03:35.56ckknightI only  really use 6
03:35.57Brunerschutwig: in a group/rading situation its ok to just have those
03:36.07Seerah_I need all my spells out (mostly) because otherwise I'd forget where they were :P  or if there are times when I'm eating or trying to make the puppy behave while playing and I use the mouse only :P
03:36.10chutwigon my paladin most stuff is in 3 bars
03:36.32Wobworkhm, in regards to Cart_Note sharing, with the whisper method, it prefixes the whisper with "Cartographer-Notes" doesn't it?
03:36.48WobworkWhich Cart then hides from the chatframe
03:37.00kenlyricpaladins have a big heal?
03:37.04Brunerson my hunter i have 5 full bars with buttons
03:37.07kenlyricsince when?
03:37.32Brunersflash of light and holy light ?
03:37.51Megalonand which one was the big one, that can crit for 7k+?
03:37.52Wobworkpallies have the most efficient heal
03:37.53Megalon:s
03:38.06theoddone33for a while
03:38.08kenlyriclies.
03:38.12Seerah_http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Seerah/Elemaphant1.jpg  - my UI atm
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03:38.26kenlyricpaladins just fall asleep on flash of light until the raid is called.
03:38.26theoddone33crit based healing efficiency is hacks
03:38.43theoddone33which is why it's (partially) going away
03:38.51theoddone33but it is sad nonetheless
03:39.06kenlyricgreater than combat time efficiency is hacks :)
03:39.24chutwigmax hax
03:39.29XuerianBruners: Warlock with clicky: http://imagesocket.com/view/icy3f8.png
03:39.37kenlyrichealers not having to think about mana is like tanks not having to think about threat.
03:39.59kenlyric"I just smash heroic strike!"
03:40.16kenlyricit's not a nerf, it's a buff, so they aren't so bored.
03:40.24chutwignotwithstanding that paladin healing is not nearly as simple as you make it to be
03:40.42kenlyricit is for the paladins that suck.
03:40.59kenlyricand they can afford to suck, they have the infinite mana.
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03:41.21theoddone33what's the hard part? (asking an honest question, not challenging your statement) juggling divine favor/divine illumination/holy shock?
03:41.22BrunersXuerian: that was a slow loading page
03:41.36XuerianBruners: I <3 broadband
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03:41.41chutwigthe infamous paladin sustainability comes from chain-casting FoL
03:41.52kenlyricI think that's what I just said. :)
03:41.53chutwigbut paladins tend to break down if they're expected to sustain larger heals
03:42.01kenlyricexactly.
03:42.03theoddone33holy light has better crit
03:42.16chutwigHL's efficiency is the worst out of the large heals, or it was pre-BC
03:42.26kenlyricI think I've discussed previously where I don't trust any paladins to keep up a tank :)
03:42.34ThorgardXuerian, imagesocket's gotta be hosted on a dialup connection. ;P
03:42.35theoddone33but the efficiency goes up exponentially as spell crit increases
03:42.40kenlyricit's pretty ass, compared to Gheal's efficiency.
03:42.41HjalteSeriously, too many good paladins are wasting their time with spamming FoL.
03:42.57XuerianThorgard: I'm starting to have my suspicions, but I'm irrationally skeptical of photoshop
03:42.59Xuerianer
03:43.00kenlyricHjalte: well, it will become painfully obvious who they are in 2.1 (I hope)
03:43.01Xuerianphotobucket
03:43.18chutwigi'm back to screwing around with ret on my paladin
03:43.20chutwigfor shits and giggles
03:43.33theoddone33I'm doing plaugelands as 41 prot
03:43.35theoddone33it's so much fun
03:43.41kenlyricI respec every weekend on my priest. This weekend i"m going for a disc build.
03:43.48Xuerian41?!
03:43.56theoddone3341 talent points
03:43.57chutwigi respecced my lock from 44/17 to 41/0/20 and i've settled on 41/9/11 for now
03:43.57theoddone33not level
03:44.02XuerianOh <.<
03:44.13chutwigsettle down!
03:45.19Brunersgot 5-8-39 on my lock atm
03:45.31chutwigdestro blehhhhh
03:45.33ThorgardXuerian, where are all the buttons? :o
03:45.41XuerianThorgard: Mouse :D
03:45.42Thorgard*finally loaded the image*
03:45.44XuerianXD
03:45.55chutwigdestro is all the fun of being a mage except without being able to sheep things or make your own water
03:46.09ThorgardI take it you're only using a select.. eight or so spells? ;P
03:46.31XuerianNo, I have every offensive spell mapped to a click
03:46.53XuerianThe bindings can get a little exotic for the ones I don't use, granted...
03:48.40XuerianThorgard: makes it really easy to navigate and cast though. I don't have to aim for a actionbutton to cast, just a uf.
03:50.27XuerianSeerah_: How do you... see... over the saddle? =D
03:50.49Seerah_I need to find the uber rare, epic [Booster Seat]
03:50.54XuerianThey should make gnomes ride behind the ears, hehe
03:50.59Xuerianor well. Horns
03:51.13Seerah_and for some STRANGE reason, Elekks are bigger the smaller their rider
03:51.13NightHawkTheSanegraaarh! me > php!
03:51.25NightHawkTheSaneSeerah_: that happens with all mounts
03:51.39XuerianCompensation =O
03:51.43theoddone33http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot051607223230ur3.jpg there we go
03:51.47theoddone33that's the UI I setup last night
03:51.48chutwigi hate gnomes on mounts
03:51.50theoddone33still a little rough
03:51.51chutwigso emasculating!
03:52.00chutwigas my tiny little horse rides behind some gnome's xbox-sized mount
03:52.02Seerah_yeah......  it made me feel better to see a human looking at the back of an elekk's head, too, though :P
03:52.08Seerah_Xuerian: lol
03:52.21NightHawkTheSanealso, since we're posting ui's.. http://www.asylumsw.com/misc/pcuf.jpeg
03:53.22Seerah_nice, theoddone33 - I'd personally want to move those button boxes down some, but I'm obsessive compulsive :P
03:53.33Xueriantheoddone33: Nice red/green scheme :D. NightHawkTheSane: pb needs the combat bars, I remember those from perl. I loved them on my druid =\... Also, I should've used my ftp too :p. http://wow.xuerian.net/icy.png
03:53.35theoddone33when I'm in a party, the party boxes show up along the bottom
03:53.59Seerah_only 153 staves?!? hehe
03:54.00theoddone33I'm having trouble finding space for everything I want :(
03:54.10NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: any sort of color scheme in my ui is entirely unintentional for sure ;)
03:54.15Seerah_ahhh
03:54.23XuerianNightHawkTheSane: Your ping was the combat bars part :p
03:54.50NightHawkTheSaneoh
03:54.54NightHawkTheSanegah, i need to learn to read ;)
03:54.57Seerah_back to combining FontPacks...
03:55.03XuerianNou, I need to learn to type XD
03:55.10XuerianNice organized bottom frame too
03:55.18XuerianSeerah_: Combining?
03:55.20NightHawkTheSaneSeerah_: I only specced resto like last week, so I only just started actually using a staff. ><
03:55.43Brunersdestruction spec is good for pvp
03:55.50NightHawkTheSaneI should head to the blasted lands and whack the servants for a bit.
03:56.17Seerah_Rabbit thought it'd be a good idea to just have one.  I figure you don't know which fonts are in them anyhow until you download them all
03:56.23kenlyricNightHawkTheSane: hmmm, isn't that what trash is for? :)
03:56.38kenlyricI did 300 unarmed in molten core.
03:57.06Seerah_my swords hit 303 on those mana wyrms in kara
03:57.06NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: er, so, anyway! Yeah, what really keeps me using PCUF over PB is the combat bars, and to a lesser extent the frame layout, so clean and simple.
03:57.48nymbia;)
03:58.08NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: and i'll wear leather shoulders if i damn well please (Mantle of Autumn), at least until I find comparable mail healing shoulers.
03:59.16XuerianNightHawkTheSane: Lol, it was more of a identity crisis. Troll. Restro. Staves. Shoulders that looked like cenarion ;P. I used pcuf on my druid when I raided. Smooth movement of the health bars and the combat bars were lovely perks
03:59.33XuerianNightHawkTheSane: No uf now has simply smooth movement. It's all slicing or fading or smooth and slicing or some weird shit
03:59.54NightHawkTheSane:\
03:59.56NightHawkTheSanethats kind of a shame.
04:00.17NimbleRabitSmoothStatusBars was the best mod I ever had
04:00.25XuerianYeah :(
04:00.32NimbleRabitwhy would they break that
04:00.34NimbleRabitit was so sexy
04:00.41XuerianIt's a shame.
04:00.42HjalteIn 2.1, will i be able to target someone and see how long he has left of all buffs, just my own or none really?
04:01.10nymbiaHjalte: the ones you cast
04:01.11XuerianSmooth animation of health bars without any fancy slicing! =O
04:01.17XuerianOr should I poke ammo.
04:01.37XuerianNot that one, either, you pervs <.<
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04:01.51nymbiaXuerian: played with pitbull's barfader?
04:01.53Hjaltenymbia, so i'll only be able to see the buff durations on buffs i cast? - what if my buff is overwritten by another ones buff, do you know how it handles that?
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04:02.04Seerah_perl, get ckknight's attention
04:02.05nymbiaHjalte: no idea.
04:02.06Xueriannymbia: Yes, but I can only get it to fade slices, not the "actual" bar
04:02.08NightHawkTheSane.. Who do i have to poke to get someone to make a PCUF-look-alike pb layout? And, if it'll help, i DO mean -that- pokie-stick
04:02.24Xuerian¬.¬
04:02.29Seerah_hahaha
04:02.33nymbiaXuerian: switch it to smoothing and not fading?
04:02.43Xueriannymbia: That'd make too much sense =P
04:07.26NeeblerI play the drums on fontanelles
04:14.32Seerah_5.2Mbs for that uber fontpack
04:14.54Seerah_gotta wait for my hubby to be done playing so I don't steal all the bandwidth to upload :P
04:14.55Xueriannymbia: Nope
04:15.24Cryecthehe http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1012/mariokarthk9.jpg
04:15.27Xueriannymbia: That slides the bar out, then "fills" it. Perhaps this is a feature to show how much was gained/lost in the incriment, but I don't want that >_<
04:15.55Xueriannymbia: More appropriately, I want a option to turn it off :p
04:16.07kebinusanIts kinda lame that you kill Magtheridon and he's still alive when you go into blood furnace
04:17.01nymbiaXuerian: hit it with a stick?  /shrug
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04:17.45ckknightblah
04:17.47ckknightlousy cords
04:18.05NightHawkTheSanemm.. 6 line php files. so easy to debug.
04:18.32nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: depends how long the lines are
04:18.54NightHawkTheSanenymbia: fair enough. It's an include, and three method calls. ;)
04:19.02Xuerianhey ckknight, would it be possible to add a toggle for the "slide-fadein" effect for barfader?
04:19.45ckknightdon't know what that is
04:19.47ckknightsorry
04:19.53ckknightthe slide-fadein bit, I mean
04:20.00ckknightI really need to set up the LoD system.
04:20.02ckknightblah.
04:20.19Neeblerohh ckknight are you going to take advantage of the new fade feature in 2.1?
04:20.44XuerianAlright. With barfader set to "Smooth Value", it animates a smooth slide to the next value. However, the new section is more transparent than the rest of the bar. After the smooth slide is complete, that section fades in
04:20.47nymbiaNeebler: fade feature?
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04:20.53Xueriandamnit
04:20.56XuerianAlright. With barfader set to "Smooth Value", it animates a smooth slide to the next value. However, the new section is more transparent than the rest of the bar. After the smooth slide is complete, that section fades in
04:21.13nymbiaXuerian: did you disable fading?
04:21.14Seerah_ohhh.... hmm........  with the new WAU, mods are no longer listed alphabetically.... :(
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04:21.18Xueriannymbia: Yes
04:21.31ckknightgah
04:21.33ckknightgoddamn cords
04:21.37Neeblernymbia: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=B84733C14841024BDC64A00C2FD36B30?topicId=102909657&sid=1
04:21.41Neeblerthe beginning of the second post
04:22.25nymbiainteresting
04:23.44Seerah_ahh... but when I tell WAU to update all, it sorts alphabetically...   (sorry if I'm rambling :P )
04:24.04Seerah_ooh, and it's faster! :)
04:24.26Megalonyea
04:24.34NeeblerI like the new JWoWUpdater
04:24.41MegalonSeerah_: i think that's because it looks up Latest.xml
04:24.55Megalonwhere the mods are sorted by revision numbers
04:25.00Seerah_ahh, perhaps
04:25.40Neeblerwould anyone be so kind as to write a small addon containing about 2-5 lines of code, that will desaturate all buttons to become grey?
04:28.03ZealotOnAStickI'm curious, why?
04:28.14Seerah_neebler's been trying to keep his UI all one/two colors :)
04:28.30Neeblerand I fail miserably at coding
04:28.36Seerah_(same ;) )
04:28.45ckknight(not same)
04:29.36Seerah_:P ckknight
04:30.19nymbialies
04:30.21ZealotOnAStickSo, I got the Collar of the Grand Engineer from Void Reaver tonight.  Ok now, great after the patch.
04:30.31ZealotOnAStickBut the model, ugh.  Time to turn off helmet graphics.
04:30.41nymbialol collars
04:30.58ZealotOnAStickIt's the T2 mage hat again . . .
04:31.11nymbiahahaha
04:31.12ZealotOnAStickwith the lovely "let's turn your hair model to look like a black bald cap"
04:31.13Seerah_yeah..... haven't decided yet if I'd show the mage T4 one....  it would show my awesomely cute green pigtails, but...
04:31.27ckknightwoo, I get tomorrow off
04:32.22ZealotOnAStickI want 2.1 gem recipes in game NOW.
04:33.57NightHawkTheSanei want a cookie.
04:34.27Seerah_I think I'll have to look at these new text options in-game for my mushy brain to understand how it works :)
04:34.39Wobworks/frige/fridge/
04:34.57Seerah_for PitBull
04:35.02ZealotOnAStickwhat is a TimTam?
04:35.10Wobwork><
04:35.13Seerah_FlimFlam?
04:35.17WobworkBest Biscuit Ever
04:35.23Wobworkand by Biscuit, I mean cookie
04:35.32Seerah_~timtam
04:35.37Wobworkand by cookie I mean chocolate cookie
04:35.45ZealotOnAStickOooh.
04:35.53Seerah_is perl dead? :P
04:35.54NightHawkTheSaneand by chocolate cookie, you mean.. I HATE YOU. :P
04:35.55ZealotOnAStickTimTam Love Potions Double Chocolate and Raspberry.
04:36.02Wobworkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Tam
04:36.25sedatedChipmunk~wiki timtam
04:36.59Neeblerhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/32500/Pictures-of-Geek-Culture
04:37.07sedatedChipmunkwtf is textured chocolate?
04:37.22Neeblerthat piano setup is pretty hot. too bad the keys aren't embedded into the piano
04:37.24Wobworkdunno, it's got ripples in it?
04:37.36WobworkThere's a picture on the wiki page
04:37.38sedatedChipmunkbut that's not a property of the chocolate, per se
04:37.57NightHawkTheSaneNeebler: that's awesome.
04:38.01Brunersi just love being ganked by a 70 rogue as level 61
04:38.06Wobworkno, but it's stil the best biscuit in the world
04:38.11NightHawkTheSaneI like the apple taped to the laptop
04:38.29sedatedChipmunk"The Tim Tam Slam, also known as the Tim Tam Suck, Tim Tam Explosion, Tim Tam Orgasm, Tim Tam Straw, Shot-gunning a Tim Tam, or just plain Tim Tamming is the main form of Tea Sucking and involves biting off..." ok that's where i stop, tyvm
04:38.58WobworkOh it's great =)
04:39.01WobworkI <3 doing that
04:39.22WobworkIt's like chocolate just came in your mouth
04:39.31NightHawkTheSanethat's fascintating.
04:39.38sedatedChipmunkhttp://static.scribd.com/docs/jl6irhewlnci4_files/image015.jpg
04:39.42sedatedChipmunkhaha
04:39.59sedatedChipmunkwobin you scare me =\
04:40.17NightHawkTheSanelol, the microwave monitor is amusing
04:40.29WobworkI like that microwave monitor =)
04:40.46Seerah_yeah
04:40.58ckknightsame, wobin
04:40.59WobworkChipper, want me to send you a packet? =)
04:41.11Seerah_http://static.scribd.com/docs/jl6irhewlnci4_files/image009.jpg makes a music teacher cry though
04:41.32Seerah_(<- me)
04:41.44ckknightyou're a music teacher?
04:41.48Seerah_yep
04:41.58ckknightcrazy
04:42.01Seerah_which is why my mushy brain isn't so good on the lua :P
04:42.07ckknightoh yea, you're also one of those female things, right?
04:42.18NightHawkTheSanepsh, that's not possible. There's no females on the internets.
04:42.27ckknightah, I suppose
04:42.39ckknightmaybe she snuck on somehow
04:42.48Seerah_shhhhh
04:42.54Wobwork"Are there any women here?"
04:43.00Megalon:D
04:43.02Wobwork"<gruff>no no no</gruff>"
04:43.09ckknightlol
04:43.11Seerah_lol
04:43.12ckknightFuturama ftw
04:43.16Wobworkbah
04:43.17NightHawkTheSanewell, i won't tell if you won't. Mostly because i'm a lazy bastard who can barely be arsed to eat.
04:43.17Megalonlife of brian
04:43.18Seerah_Life of Brian
04:43.22Megalonwtf futurama
04:43.22WobworkMonty Python ftw =P
04:43.23sedatedChipmunkwobin: yes please
04:43.24ckknightoh
04:43.27ckknightvery true
04:43.33ckknighthey, Futurama did it, too
04:43.38ckknightwhen they visited the internet
04:43.42Megaloncheap copy, at it's best :P
04:43.55ckknightI haven't seen all of Life of Brian
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04:44.19Seerah_O.O
04:44.19Wobworkoh hey
04:44.27WobworkI must have reconnected for some reason =P
04:44.35sedatedChipmunkrofl
04:44.36ckknight<(ºvº)>
04:44.38NightHawkTheSanethank you, captain obvious.
04:44.43sedatedChipmunkhe's aliiiiiiiive
04:44.47Megalonromanus eunt domus!
04:44.47Megalon:D
04:44.59Seerah_that's one of the best parts
04:45.00ckknightpedicabo ego vos et irrumabo
04:46.38NightHawkTheSaneI should totallly watch life of brian later tonight.
04:47.03Megalonevery time you watch that movie
04:47.09Megalonit's totally worth it :>
04:49.41Seerah_what's the best way to take something off the svn?  I got my MyMedia off earlier, but I was wondering if there was an easier way than how I did it
04:49.51Seerah_(using Tortoise)
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04:52.09NightHawkTheSanereading the svn book is a good place to start ;)
04:52.18NightHawkTheSanehttp://svnbook.red-bean.com/
04:52.47Seerah_thanks, I don't remember if I had come across that before or not :)
04:53.07Seerah_I'll deal with all this stuff tomorrow I guess.  Gotta get up early in the morning
04:53.15vhaarrsvn delete http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/<name> -m "Message"
04:54.23sedatedChipmunkjust replace <name> with pretty much anything in there that has the word 'Gnome' in it
04:54.32Seerah_:(
04:55.16Seerah_night all
04:55.26sedatedChipmunki'm out, too
04:55.30sedatedChipmunkyou all suck
04:59.07ckknightsedatedChipmunk: NO U
05:02.40theoddone33a mod that makes guesses at crossfaction gear based on models would be kind of neat
05:02.43theoddone33dunno if you can do it though
05:03.18vhaarryou can not
05:03.33theoddone33ah, that sucks
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05:28.45Dhragamorning all, anyone have time for a quick question regarding dewdrop text & color ?
05:29.26Wobwork"Flee, flee while you still can"?
05:30.40DhragaIs it possible to have different colored text on the same line in an easy way.... like this example:
05:30.43Dhragadewdrop:AddLine("text", "This text in normal white color (And this text to be in another color but on the same line)")
05:30.57Roartindondharga: using two columns?
05:31.06WobworkI think that's the only way
05:31.14RoartindonWell, the alternative is color codes midline
05:31.23Xuerian|cffrrggbb
05:31.24Roartindoneg: "text|cffff0000redtext"
05:31.34CIA-2303rabbit * r35755 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua: ClosetGnome_OhNoes: Disable in battlegrounds.
05:31.53Xuerian|c alpha red green blue eg |cff99aa44
05:32.06DhragaAh thanks, I'll try that
05:32.46Gngskvharr, would it be a good idea to disable if your target is pvp enabled as well maybe?
05:33.03Gngskwell, I guess that wouldn't be disabling
05:33.07vhaarrGngsk: it already disables if your target is an enemy player.
05:33.12Gngskoh, ok
05:33.28GngskI don't use it, I just remember one of my friends bitching about it happening to him a few months ago
05:37.56DhragaRoartindon or Xuerian, any page that have a quick ref of those color codes ?
05:37.56vhaarrDhraga: it's RGB.
05:37.56Roartindonumm.. let me check, any web hex code color
05:37.56Xueriando it in your head
05:37.56Dhragaah.. true ff for full
05:37.56Xuerianit's hexadecimal
05:37.57Roartindonfirst google return: http://www.webmonkey.com/webmonkey/reference/color_codes/
05:37.57DhragaHmm whats the 50% value in hex again ?
05:37.57Roartindon80
05:37.57Dhragathanks =)
05:38.04Xuerianbase 16/2
05:38.06Xuerian:p
05:38.42XuerianIf you want a color picker, http://www.allprofitallfree.com/color-wheel2.html
05:38.57Dhragathanks X
05:39.09Roartindonhaha.. it's a web version of Window's color picker!
05:39.22RoartindonThat's what wow needs internally.. a better color picker dialog
05:39.43vhaarryes, please make one
05:39.43RoartindonMaybe I will
05:39.53RoartindonI made one for a Windows' program to mimic the in-built mac color picker
05:39.53NightHawkTheSaneplease do
05:40.02vhaarrwe'll stick it in AceAddon-2.0 without telling anyone
05:40.27Roartindonhmm.. when I get some spare time, I'll do it
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05:42.43CIA-2303ckknight * r35756 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
05:42.43CIA-23DogTag-1.0 - for tag IsFeignedDeath, in WoW 2.1, use UnitIsFeignDeath instead of aura checking.
05:42.43CIA-23- check if globals exist on startup, should prevent future messups.
05:43.05ckknight_Roartindon: does Aloft's tag system have anything that DogTag doesn't currently?
05:43.22Roartindonckknight_: I doubt it; dogtag has tons more than Aloft I believe
05:43.34ckknight_alright
05:43.40ckknight_I just want to cover all the bases
05:43.45RoartindonAloft
05:43.54RoartindonAloft's tag compiler doesn't require string output now tho
05:44.04Roartindonone of the parameters is "type".. can be "raw", "string", or "number"
05:44.14ckknight_string output? how do you mean?
05:44.17RoartindonJust so I could use tags for more than just strings
05:44.28sylvanaarwhy do ppl say that WAU doesnt sort alphabetically? how does it sort>?
05:44.41Megalonby lastest.xml i think
05:44.41ckknight_tags can return nil, string, or number, or any combination of those
05:44.46Roartindonie.. the tag compiler could be used to return a true/false value for visibility/etc.. I haven't tied it in yet tho
05:44.57ckknight_[Level] returns 10, for instance, not "10"
05:45.01sylvanaarmine is alphabetical
05:45.04Megalonsylvanaar: if ou press f4 to select all installed, it gets sorted alphabetically
05:45.13Megalonhm
05:45.32Roartindonckknight: Yeah, tags can be bool, nil, strings, or numbers in Aloft too.. but previously, the tag compiler's function would always return a string
05:45.40ckknight_Roartindon: I haven't bothered with supporting booleans, since you can just do "True"/nil
05:45.56Megalonsylvanaar: btw Version Check...Update Available (1.8.10.0)
05:46.05ckknight_which is what most do right now
05:46.10Megalonbut i can't find a 1.8.10 on sf.net :O
05:46.14Roartindonie.. previous.. generatedMethod() would always return a string.. if you had [level], it would be return level or ""
05:46.21ckknight_ah, alright
05:46.42Roartindonthe [level] tag itself is a numeric value
05:47.04RoartindonJust the final output of the tag function in aloft can now be used more generally.. though it isn't yet
05:47.27RoartindonI had this idea that I'd tie in the tag compiler into some damage meters addon
05:47.37RoartindonSo that each tag would  represent a different value
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05:47.45Roartindonand you could get raw healing as simple [heal]+[overheal]
05:48.06WobworkThat's kinda cool =)
05:48.07Roartindonor if you wanted crazy stats like warlock damage done to self inflicted, you could use [damage]/[lifetapDamage] or something
05:48.24ckknight:-(
05:48.26ckknight[Level] compiles into [[value = UnitLevel(unit)]]
05:48.44Silviu-Can someone modify the topic on chan and delete the last "." from http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. ? :P
05:48.45ckknighthrm
05:48.49Silviu-after*
05:48.54ckknightDogTag doesn't track stuff like that. Nor should it, imho
05:48.58ckknightout of scope
05:49.15ckknightI could add in addition/subtraction/etc, but I'm not sure there'd be too big of a point
05:49.16Wobworkwell
05:49.25ckknight[Level:Add(1)]
05:49.25Roartindonckknight: The core of Aloft's TagCompiler is completely Aloft-inspecific now
05:49.35Wobworkisn't the addition/subtraction roart's job?
05:49.37RoartindonAs in, to compile aloft tags, I hand it a data table + the tag + output type
05:49.46ckknighthrm
05:49.48WobworkAll DT would do is return the value
05:50.23ckknightwell, DogTag doesn't use a data table, it figures out all values on the fly
05:50.26ckknight*shrug*
05:50.52ckknight(out of spite)
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05:51.06RoartindonI'm not sure that there's any use for add/sub/etc in a generic unit tag thing tho
05:51.13RoartindonI can't really think where users would want to do level:Add(1)
05:51.15Silviu-ty vhaarr
05:51.16ckknightthere might be.
05:51.18vhaarrnp
05:51.19ckknightpotentially
05:51.26ckknightand frankly, adding it is extremely cheap
05:51.28RoartindonI can if you add comparison operators in
05:51.40Roartindoneg. color someone's name differently if their level is below 70
05:51.47ckknightit's a linear memory addition, zero overall CPU addition
05:51.54ckknightI have comparison operators
05:51.57sylvanaaryou just update to whatever is there
05:52.07sylvanaarMegalon ^^
05:52.21sylvanaarits too much hassle to type it all in
05:52.32Megalon[Level:DoFourierTransformation()] !
05:52.42ckknight[Level:LessThan(70)?Red!Green][Level][White]
05:54.41Megalonsylvanaar: ok, newest version now, what was confusing me was that the package is still called 1.8
05:55.04Megalonwhen it's 1.8.10 :c
05:55.18sylvanaaryeah, i have to fill out a form for each release, so i am just reusing them
05:57.52Megalonk
05:58.06sylvanaarMegalon there, i changed the name of the release, that wasnt that bad
05:59.53Megalonthx, i checked sf.net 2-3 times when i got the message in WAU, but i knew i already had 1.8, so i didn't bother do redownload the same :O
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06:04.23sylvanaarok so does it still not sort properly?
06:05.15CIA-2303ckknight * r35758 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add modifiers :Floor and :Ceil
06:05.17Kalman|Not for me.  :/
06:05.59sylvanaardo you have it set to view by groups?
06:06.00theoddone33hm
06:06.02Megalonah, sorting was the issue :>
06:06.10theoddone33changing my UI around reveals that I depending on icehud for my energy/cps
06:06.17theoddone33I was depending...
06:06.21Megalondoesn't sort
06:06.47sylvanaarxp or vista?
06:06.50Megalonxp
06:06.57Megalonbut, if i hit F4
06:07.01Megalonto select all installed
06:07.03sylvanaarexternals or no?
06:07.05Megaloneverything gets sorted
06:07.17Megaloni update without externals
06:07.32sylvanaarwhat mirror
06:07.37vhaarrsylvanaar: I downloaded 1.8.10, started it, touched nothing, and the list is not sorted.
06:07.42Megalonfiles.wowace.com
06:08.00Kalman|sylvanaar: OK, it works like the old version - disable/reenable groups and it sorts.
06:08.49sylvanaarmine is, thats wierd
06:09.19Megalonif i let it sort with F4, and then reload index with F5
06:09.22Megalonit's unsorted again
06:09.34Megalonso there seems to be no initial sort at all?
06:10.45Megalonhm, with no addons marked, Unmark All Addons also sorts the lists ;>
06:11.24sylvanaargot it thx
06:12.01Megalonk :)
06:12.34sylvanaari think vista sorts by default
06:12.52sylvanaarit may have updated msxml or windows common ctrls
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06:13.59vhaarrwau needs to run on mono, I can't believe it doesn't do that yet
06:14.36sylvanaarthey are recoding in java
06:15.07vhaarrI know
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06:19.19ckknight_wtf is with my connection
06:20.55theoddone33someone was asking about stuff the mirror bar is used for the other day
06:21.04theoddone33one I don't think was mentioned... meeting stone summons?
06:21.31theoddone33maybe not
06:21.32Xuerianckknight: It's like old times.
06:21.36NightHawkTheSaneno, i think those justuse the normal cast bar
06:21.39theoddone33I don't appear to actually have a mirror bar
06:21.41theoddone33ok
06:23.59a-stray-catwaterfall's pretty cool :O
06:24.10a-stray-catis there any way to make the text boxes longer?
06:24.14WobworkI keep expecting a 'save' button on waterfall
06:25.20vhaarrI always expect tab to work
06:25.39WobworkIt doesn't with the normal blizzard interface, does it?
06:25.47vhaarrdon't think so, no
06:26.09vhaarrI can't really imagine anywhere it would be useful either
06:26.10sylvanaarlol, i expect home and end to work in the chatframe
06:26.13vhaarrin the blizz interface, that is
06:26.22vhaarrsylvanaar: they do?
06:26.33sylvanaarnot on mine
06:26.41Roartindonsylvanaar: Hmm.. they do for me.
06:26.43Wobworkwhen you're typing, I think it does
06:26.50sylvanaaryeah manybe so
06:26.53omega_I expected Waterfall to save text-fields when I left them, but it required me to press Enter
06:26.55sylvanaarfocus issues
06:27.04vhaarrChatFrameEditBox:SetAltArrowKeyMode(false)
06:27.14sylvanaaroh no
06:27.27a-stray-cati prefer to press enter
06:27.29sylvanaarthat = sylvaan runs off a cliff
06:27.32a-stray-catotherwise there's no easy way to cancel
06:29.43a-stray-catwhat function is run when you do /acemod standby?
06:30.06CIA-2303rabbit * r35759 10SimpleChatMods/buttons.lua: SimpleChatMods: buttons: one function instead of 21.
06:30.40vhaarrdepends what the new state is
06:30.44vhaarr:OnEnable or :OnDisable
06:31.42ckknightgood: http://xkcd.com/c263.html
06:31.55a-stray-catvhaarr: thankie
06:32.04ckknighta-stray-cat: :ToggleActive() is run.
06:32.08ckknightbasically
06:32.13a-stray-cati see
06:32.16ckknightwhich can call :OnEnable and such
06:32.24a-stray-catthats even better ;O
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06:39.24Wobworkhttp://movies.yahoo.com/summer-movies/Transformers/1808716430/trailers/31
06:39.26Wobworkwoot
06:39.46vhaarrnew trailer?!
06:39.50Wobworkyeah
06:41.30kebinusanAnyone know whats up with all the wow forum stuff about Tseric today
06:41.51Kalman|He left, or was fired.
06:42.06Kalman|http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104492124&sid=1
06:42.22kebinusanah
06:48.57theoddone33my first heroic boss kill
06:49.02theoddone33cool 1.4 speed dagger drops
06:49.10theoddone33and I ask them to shard it because I already have better :(
06:51.43Gngskget used to that
06:52.15theoddone33gotta farm gladiator weapons sometime
06:52.21theoddone33otherwise there's not really anything interesting
06:52.32XuerianDamnit, Wobwork, need a hd version!
06:52.41Xuerianstage6zomg >_>
06:53.50theoddone33now I've got this 1x badge of justice to stick in my bank!
06:54.44omega_d: ƮƮÇÊ sÉ sı̣ɥʇ op uÉÉ” I ÊŽÉ¥Ê sı̣ ɥɔı̣ɥʠ 
06:54.53omega_ops, sorry
06:54.56ilifinwhat the
06:54.58omega_damn terminal focus
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06:57.21WobworkXuerian: isn't there one?
06:57.40XuerianWobwork: In some retarded quicktime format >.x
06:57.42WobworkXuerian: go from http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers.html
06:57.53Wobworkoh
06:58.23Wobworkfeh
06:58.30WobworkMegatron looks like a bucket of bolts
06:58.33Wobworkor scrap metal
06:58.43Wobworkor a metallic version of Spawn
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06:59.11WobworkAnd I can't believe Optimus Prime has flames =P
06:59.58Megalonanother "on july 4th the usa saves the world" movie
06:59.59Megalon>:<
07:00.49Xuerianbig robots save the world *in the usa :P
07:01.14Xuerian"Probably japanese" robots XD
07:02.09WobworkAll the evil robots look like shit
07:02.36Megalonit's more like code guardian http://www.cee-gee.net/
07:02.37Megalon:P
07:02.50Megaloni wonder which of the other robots is the nazi
07:02.54Megalonand which is the samurai
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07:07.45theoddone33I'm so amused by TBC now... everyone on my server is decked out in awesome looking gear from heroics
07:07.56theoddone33the gear wipe made everything a little too level, maybe
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07:09.30theoddone33that's what I get for not playing my main for 2 months
07:09.30ilifinblizz should be a little less lazy and not make tier 4 look inferior to other gear, aswell as not just reskin arena gear as tier 4 :<
07:09.30theoddone33left behind
07:09.30theoddone33yeah TBC itemization from what I've seen is just ... poor
07:09.30ilifinnot just poor, epics are worse than blues from nonheroic atm
07:09.30theoddone33yeah
07:09.36ilifinatleast as shaman -_-
07:09.57theoddone33I'm fascinated with the progression
07:10.06theoddone33most of the people I played with quit or rerolled
07:10.17theoddone33and all the casuals are running around in great gear
07:10.25ilifinI went shaman from rogue since I just died and became a liability for heroics
07:10.45theoddone33I just got into a heroic and said "oh, I don't have imp. sap"... I thought they were going to kick me
07:10.49ilifinnot too fun to die from standing behind a mob
07:11.02theoddone33maybe those days are over
07:13.35sylvanaarso, did that fix the sort issue in WAU ?
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07:24.57CIA-2303nimbal * r35760 10Buffalo2/ (15 files in 3 dirs): Buffalo2 - Inital commit
07:26.21CIA-2303cryect * r35761 10Mode7/ (. Mode7-1.0/ Mode7-1.0/Mode7-1.0.lua Mode7.toc): Mode7: Initial Commit - A library for Mode 7 Style graphics
07:27.50CIA-2303cryect * r35762 10Mode7Test/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Mode7Test: Initial Commit - A simple implementation demonstrating the library Mode7 (think SNES Mario Kart)
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07:29.37Neeblerbuffalo 2 eh? their isn't really much more that can be done to the buff icons that the original buffalo hasn't done allready. Other than I suppose adding a cyCircled look to them?
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07:30.37vhaarrOther than clean up the code considerably and get it ready for 2.1, where it should be somewhat simpler to implement.
07:31.06Neeblerround buff icons to match cyCircled would be sexy
07:31.43CIA-2303cryect * r35763 10Mode7Test/: Mode7Test - Added Externals
07:31.53vhaarrthat would be cyC's job
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07:35.14evltheoddone33: People who ask if you have imp sap are retards and should be shot
07:35.23theoddone33no one asked
07:35.30theoddone33I just thought it might be a hinderance
07:35.35theoddone33was my first heroic after all
07:35.57CryectFor those wondering what the hell Mode 7 Test is http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/856/mode7testor1.jpg
07:35.58a-stray-catif all my group has left is a spot for cc
07:36.05a-stray-cati'll ask any rogue that wants to join if he has imp sap :P
07:36.07theoddone33priest priest rogue shaman warrior groups aren't heavy CC groups
07:36.16theoddone33but we did ok
07:36.32theoddone33someone is putting a snes emulator into WoW...
07:36.35theoddone33*boggle*
07:36.39a-stray-cathow o.O
07:36.49theoddone33no idea
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07:36.58Cryecthaha no its not an emulator
07:37.06Cryectjust mode 7 style graphics
07:37.12a-stray-cato
07:37.19theoddone33whew
07:37.31theoddone33though playing ff6 while afk in AV might be nice
07:38.38a-stray-catmeh
07:38.38a-stray-catjust run in windowed mode
07:38.38a-stray-catand play ff6 ;p
07:38.38theoddone33I had to change my IM name because zsnes people stuck it in the about box as a contributor
07:38.38theoddone33heh
07:38.38CryectPfft I want multiplayer Mario Kart & Fzero for raids!
07:38.38ckknightstarfox!
07:38.38Megalonhere
07:38.42Megaloner
07:39.29Megalonsuper metroid
07:39.31a-stray-catmy guild plays monopoly during raids :X
07:39.55CIA-2303ckknight * r35764 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - don't break horribly when MobHealth is missing.
07:40.00a-stray-catthe best land trades go on during boss fights
07:40.12Cryecthaha
07:40.34ckknightI've seriously thought of making monopoly in WoW.
07:40.40ckknightI may do it.
07:40.55theoddone33heh
07:40.56a-stray-catmy gm's got it mostly written
07:40.57a-stray-catgot a few bugs
07:41.00theoddone33gotta use that mod chat channel for something
07:41.03ckknightit'd be a wonderful exercise
07:41.07a-stray-catbut its mostly there ;p
07:41.08ckknighta-stray-cat: with graphics et al?
07:41.12a-stray-catyarr
07:41.16ckknightpimp.
07:41.18a-stray-catuses lots of ace too ;)
07:41.25theoddone33your GM isn't Ts is it?
07:41.27ckknightI'd like to see it
07:41.40theoddone33CT_Monopoly would be nice
07:41.47Gngskheh
07:41.48a-stray-catnah
07:41.56a-stray-catmy gm doesnt' write mods. only monopoly!
07:42.27a-stray-catckknight: i'll send you my kinda old busted copy, i've not downloaded the newer versions yet :X
07:42.35a-stray-cati skip too many raids for it to be useful
07:42.55CIA-2303ammo * r35765 10Violation/modules/DPS.lua: Violation: DPS module redone with new method by Adirelle, HPS should be redone in the same way if someone feels like it.
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07:47.18evlckknight: I'm having issues with the anchoring in more than one place, if I have my comboText outside the frame it seems a left-Power align will push the text outside it's bounds and thus become invisible
07:47.54ckknightright
07:47.59ckknightotherwise it'd overlap.
07:49.56ckknightthere a problem?
07:53.02evlYes, why is the anchoring on power bar reliant on the position of comboText?
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07:54.28ckknightbecause if it doesn't anchor, then it will overlap
07:54.50CIA-2303ckknight * r35766 10PitBull/ (20 files in 20 dirs):
07:54.50CIA-23PitBull - load all LoD addons that have PitBull as a dependency
07:54.50CIA-23- set all modules to be LoD.
07:54.52evlbut isn't the SetPoint: ("LEFT", powerBar, "LEFT", 0, 0)?
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07:55.10ckknightthere's two points.
07:55.18Solegood evening
07:55.23ckknighthey Sole
07:55.25evlAhh, so you expect people to have comboText in the same spot as powerText?
07:56.00ckknightno
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07:56.37ckknightit does :SetPoint("LEFT", frame.powerBar, "LEFT", 3, 0) and :SetPoint("RIGHT", frame.comboText, "LEFT", -3, 0)
07:56.42ckknightso that they don't overlap
07:56.48evlI see
07:57.50Punkie`Does 'ChatFrame1:SetFading(0)' turn off fading for cf1?
07:58.38Soletry it and see :P
07:58.41CIA-2303ckknight * r35767 10PitBull_Banzai/PitBull_Banzai.toc: PitBull_Banzai - make LoD
07:58.47CIA-2303ckknight * r35768 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.toc: PitBull_BarFader - make LoD
07:58.55Neeblerhttp://public.aregner.com/bubblewrap.swf
07:59.03CIA-2303ckknight * r35769 10PitBull_CombatFader/PitBull_CombatFader.toc: PitBull_CombatFader - make LoD
07:59.11CIA-2303ckknight * r35770 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.toc: PitBull_EstimatedHeals - make LoD
07:59.16CIA-2303ckknight * r35771 10PitBull_InteractLines/PitBull_InteractLines.toc: PitBull_InteractLines - make LoD
07:59.19Neeblersomethings hardcoded into my DNA that disallowed me from closing that webpage until I popped every single one manually
07:59.22Punkie`I can't get in game right now :(
07:59.30CIA-2303ckknight * r35772 10PitBull_RangeCheck/PitBull_RangeCheck.toc: PitBull_RangeCheck - make LoD
07:59.44Punkie`I'll just assume it does :>
08:00.11theoddone33are divides slow in lua ?
08:00.17Solelol Neebler
08:00.18sylvanaarevery language
08:00.19theoddone33or... slow enough to be noticeable
08:00.34Soleas in 20/5 ?
08:00.40evlckknight: textPosition('combatText')
08:00.44evlis never set for comboText?
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08:00.47theoddone33as in
08:00.49Roartindontheoddone33: The overhead of processing an op is far more than the cycle count related to an individual operation.
08:00.52sylvanaaraddition and multiplication are alway faster
08:00.56theoddone33right
08:01.02theoddone33Roartindon: that's what I was wondering
08:01.10ckknightevl: um, yes it is
08:01.30theoddone33basically wondering if there was any point to changing something / variable to something * precomputed_one_over_variable
08:01.30ckknightoh dang
08:01.32ckknightit isn't
08:01.33evlckknight: search for "comboTextPosition" and tell me where you can find it? :P
08:01.45Roartindontheoddone33: if you never need to use one_over_variable again, sure
08:01.47sylvanaarits largely academic
08:01.55Roartindontheoddone33: But otherwise, it's not really worth it
08:02.05RoartindonIt's not like optimizing a C++ 3d engine
08:02.06theoddone33well it's a constant, heh
08:02.09theoddone33right
08:02.14theoddone33that's what I do 40 hours a week though
08:02.15Roartindonwhere you'll convert p / Length(p) to p * (1.0f / Length(p))
08:02.16CIA-2303ckknight * r35773 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - fix comboText positioning
08:02.18theoddone33so I think in that mindset
08:02.23NimbleNeebler, damn you...
08:02.37sylvanaarconstants are folded
08:02.41Roartindontheoddone33: Yeah, same with me; and with crappy hardware too
08:02.52theoddone33Roartindon: oh, you work with ps3?? :P
08:03.03Roartindontheoddone33: Hah, that'd be nice compared to what I do work with
08:03.22sylvanaari work with cash registers
08:03.26sylvanaari win
08:03.34ckknightI did some painting today.
08:03.37Cryectpretty advance 3d processors I hear in those cash registers
08:03.41theoddone33sylvanaar: basically variable_that_changes / variable_that_never_changes_but_theoretically_could
08:03.52theoddone33it's a perfect candidate for storing 1/ blah
08:03.55RoartindonHmm.. curious..... what kind of processing power do modern cash registers have?
08:04.00theoddone33just wondering if it would make any difference at all
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08:04.36sylvanaarwell, if its a variable then its not a constant
08:04.55Roartindonsylvanaar: His question was variable / variable from the start :)
08:04.55theoddone33yes, I'm thinking in c++ speak
08:05.05ckknighttheoddone33: test it out.
08:05.05theoddone33I'd have made it const unsigned int blah = 5 in c++
08:05.11theoddone33but there's no lua thing for that
08:05.19Roartindontheoddone33: There is.. local
08:05.21ckknightlocal blah = 5
08:05.23Roartindonlocal blah = 5
08:05.31theoddone33it will fold that?
08:05.37ckknightfold how?
08:05.41Roartindonnope, it won't fold
08:05.46theoddone33ok
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08:05.48Roartindonbut it's a cheaper lookup
08:05.50ckknightit'll use it as an upvalue
08:06.06evlckknight: can I call figureHeight() from within my own layout if it inherits ABF?
08:06.24Roartindonevl: If you copy the figureheight function too :)
08:06.36evlI wish there was a super(args) in lua :P
08:06.38ckknightevl: PitBull.ABF.figureHeight
08:06.48a-stray-cathow would i branch something using tortoisesvn? :X
08:06.55ckknightevl: what's your layout do, btw?
08:07.08Roartindonoh? is figureHeight referenced now for external access?
08:07.12sylvanaarsuper(args) lol
08:07.24Roartindonoh.. there it is
08:07.31Roartindononly saw it as a local function a while ago :)
08:07.37sylvanaara-stray-cat read the help
08:08.03evlckknight: it used to do a lot of things with positioning but I fear it's days are numbered when you introduced the positioning system, the only thing I fear it'll be doing is enlarge the combo text font and move the target castbar to the center of the screen
08:08.48ckknightevl: shouldn't you just use Quartz?
08:09.04Roartindonoh.. constant folding in lua is an interesting thing too
08:09.05evlDoes it have enemy castbar aswell?
08:09.11Roartindonif you want constants to be folded, you may have to use brackets
08:09.21RoartindonAs it doesn't check for associative reordering
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08:09.59RoartindonI'll show what I mean:
08:10.18Roartindonhttp://ace.pastey.net/33777
08:10.31ckknightevl: yes
08:10.55ckknightevl: wrt font size, yes, I can almost guarantee that that'll become arbitrary in the layout system as well.
08:11.06theoddone33Roartindon: that's sad
08:11.14ckknightin the natural progression of things, ABF will swallow all other layouts
08:11.17ckknightexcept Industrial
08:11.19ckknighthis is funky.
08:11.19theoddone33but I guess it's not that big of a deal
08:11.20evlI think that's good :)
08:11.43evlckknight: How can I do frame.comboText:SetFont(PitBull:GetFont(), 22) and still use the positioning code from ABF?
08:12.01evlckknight: ABF.comboText(unit, frame); frame.comboText:SetFont?
08:12.15ckknightthat'd work, probably.
08:12.33evlI'll look into this when I get home and most probably kill my own layout from the SVN
08:12.57ckknight*shrug*
08:13.02ckknightmaybe so.
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08:15.45ckknightmy guess is that ABF will become part of the core as the ever-enveloping layout management system, but then create a new layout system on top of that which basicaly dictates settings, positions, sizes, etc.
08:15.47CIA-2303evl * r35774 10PitBull/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
08:15.47CIA-23PitBull
08:15.47CIA-23- Removed Blend layout as practically all it's functionality has been swallowed by ABF
08:15.47CIA-23- Renamed Blend.ttf to VeraSe.ttf and moved it to PitBull.lua
08:15.50evlthere
08:15.58ckknightalright
08:16.02ckknightnow to add font sizes
08:17.01evlShould be fairly trivial, but I have to say I think it's high time classText<Custom/Style/Position> is unified into some TextStyle or some other more common class
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08:18.07evlckknight: basically you have BarStyle and FontStyle and IconStyle
08:18.16ckknightclassTextSize
08:18.31CIA-2303sorren 072.1 * r35775 10SorrenTimers/:
08:18.31CIA-23SorrenTimers:
08:18.31CIA-23- 2.1, using new buff/debuff api and waterfall
08:18.33ckknightI suppose
08:19.08evlckknight: If you added comboTextSize you'll be swimming in 4 variables per fontString, not very pretty :P
08:19.24ckknightyea, but not a big issue.
08:19.27ckknightno one is looking
08:19.45CIA-2303sorren 072.1 * r35776 10SorrenTimers/ (16 files):
08:19.45CIA-23SorrenTimers:
08:19.45CIA-23- Let's try this again, because I fail at svn.
08:19.58evlckknight: I suppose
08:20.29evlTime to clear out my PitBull savedvars today, it's like 90k with old crap like Mana :P
08:23.47CIA-2303roartindon * r35777 10Aloft/ (AloftTag.lua Modules/IsTargetData.lua):
08:23.47CIA-23Aloft
08:23.47CIA-23- AloftTag: playerName inlined like it always should have been
08:23.48CIA-23- IsTargetData: using nil instead of false
08:24.05evlIf an addon isn't present in the AddOns dir, will it's SavedVariables\AddonName.lua be read at all?
08:25.36ckknightno
08:28.23CIA-2303sorren 072.1 * r35778 10SorrenTimers/:
08:28.23CIA-23SorrenTimers:
08:28.23CIA-23- Updated externals
08:30.11CIA-2303ckknight * r35779 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - add font size to text options.
08:30.20ckknightevl: ^---
08:30.35evl\o/
08:30.36evl\o\
08:30.38evl/o/
08:30.51a-stray-catsomeone seems excited.
08:31.45vhaarrOkay, so I'm taking Sunken Temple with my warrior alt, and I'm 2nd on damage done - suddenly the shaman says "lol I did more dmg than the tank".
08:32.24theoddone33heh
08:32.36theoddone33I don't pug on my alts anymore
08:32.39a-stray-cati sure hope that was a resto shaman
08:32.41a-stray-catand your healer
08:32.42evlvhaarr: Tell him to jump into the little hole
08:33.07Cryectwth
08:33.17vhaarrevl: :P
08:33.18theoddone33maybe he thinks damage = threat or something
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08:39.20evlThreat meter has been getting suspicously sketchy lately :P
08:39.33evlI presume Blizzard are putting in measures to stop it from working 100%, less easymode!
08:39.48Cryectthey just add detaunts
08:39.54Cryectmake sure there is more than 1 mob
08:40.04Cryectand if the detaunts aren't tied to any combat event
08:40.13Cryectthen it breaks thenm
08:40.32evlI've never used it, I enjoy the panic feeling when I hear the "Agro"  sound from BanzaiAlert and it's a race between the mobs swing and my finger reaching Vanish :D
08:40.50CryectI mean you can't break them too bad
08:41.03Cryectwithout players having no idea if they are going to randomly aggro
08:42.03evlSo there's no way for threatmeter to detect the detaunts?
08:42.39vhaarrThere's almost always a way.
08:42.49Cryectnormally its tied to some combatlog event
08:42.56vhaarrEither a combat event or detargetting.
08:43.01Arjorcan anyone tell me the error with this dogtag hp siquence please: [Status:SureHP?CurHP:Short:Append([PercentHP:Percent:Paren])!PercentHP:Percent]
08:43.33ilifinparen?
08:45.00ckknightParen wraps in parentheses
08:45.29ckknightArjor: what's the issue you're running into?
08:45.46Arjorhm
08:46.03Arjori'm getting an error when i enter that text
08:46.23Arjorand switch to costom hp text
08:46.37ckknightokay
08:46.44ckknightwhat error?
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08:46.55Arjori'll need to check
08:46.59Arjorone minute
08:48.01ckknightyou should know that saying "I have an error" provides me absolutely no good information
08:48.07ckknightI have to get the error text itself
08:48.56Arjorye i know
08:50.32Arjorhttp://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot051807104809ri1.jpg
08:50.35Arjorthat
08:50.40Arjorthat's the error
08:52.06ckknightyou're out of date
08:53.15Arjorwith dogtag?
08:54.14ckknightyes
08:55.15Arjori just got it from wowace
08:55.21Arjorthe newest version
08:55.27Arjordon't see how that's possible
08:56.34Arjoranyway i'm just trying to see my target text in the following format
08:56.49Arjor7.8k | 20%
08:56.57Arjor7.8k means current hp
08:57.05ckknightyea, you're out of date, I can't help you until you're at the current version
08:57.14ckknightr35764
08:57.36Arjorok
08:57.39Arjori'll update
09:01.21ckknightI also recommend getting the addons !BugGrabber and BugSack
09:01.26Arjorsame error. just for line 2412
09:01.31ckknightit makes reporting bugs to developers like me a lot easier
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09:04.46CIA-2303ckknight * r35780 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - bugfixing
09:04.49ckknightArjor: fix incoming
09:04.51ckknightthere it is
09:05.08ckknightit may take up to 20 minutes to reach files.wowace.com
09:05.39Arjori wonder how could it be out of date. i'm using pitbull with the buildin libs
09:05.46Arjornot standalone
09:05.59ckknightit can happen.
09:06.42ckknightbtw, Arjor, [~Status?SureHP?CurHP] | [Status:PercentHP:Percent]
09:07.16ckknightwait, [~Status?SureHP?CurHP:Short] | [Status:PercentHP:Percent]
09:07.16ckknightthat'll do it
09:07.36Arjorthanks
09:09.12CIA-2303ckknight * r35781 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make inner expressions work correctly for arguments
09:09.17ckknightprobably.
09:09.19ckknightokay, that fixes the real bug
09:09.24ckknight:Append([stuff]) was messing up
09:09.35a-stray-catcan parser-3.0 tell me when someone has gained/lost a buff?
09:10.42ckknightcheck the wiki
09:11.01CIA-2303ckknight * r35782 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - restructuring, bugfixing.
09:11.27a-stray-catah, i guess it would be under notification then.
09:12.41kebinusanI really need to readup on the dogtags stuff seems like I could get some pretty interesting custom formats
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09:18.41ckknightyes.
09:19.05ckknightkebinusan: the wiki is really good now
09:19.50kebinusanyeah I was looking it over trying to see what kind of cool mojo I wanted to do with different text
09:23.39ckknightbtw, if you think you need more tags/modifiers, just say so
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09:25.02smoke_i used the wowace updater but for some reason i lost the glaze theme for my candybars how do i add i back?
09:25.29ckknightsmoke_: get SharedMedia
09:25.57CIA-2303ckknight * r35783 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua): PitBull - fix texture paths for Aura/ComboPoints.
09:27.17smoke_do i need the sharedmedia lib?
09:27.23smoke_or just sharedmedia?
09:27.38Silviu-smoke_ sharedmedia
09:28.00CIA-2303ayunyan * r35784 10ChatAssist2/ (. Core/ChatAssist.lua):
09:28.00CIA-23ChatAssist2:
09:28.00CIA-23- fix font path
09:28.02Silviu-Or depends how u have your addons embled or disembled :)
09:28.12ckknightno, just SharedMedia
09:28.18ckknightit's an addon that has a bunch of textures
09:28.44smoke_k thanks
09:28.56evlckknight: where does it's default textures come from?
09:29.05evlckknight: I can't find much TGA files in PitBull
09:29.08ckknightits
09:29.17ckknightevl: PitBull includes Cilo.tga
09:29.26ckknightand Blizzard's is in by default
09:29.28ckknighteverything else is from other addons
09:30.46Silviu-ckknight, when i reloaded now with r35783 i got an chat notification "Interface\AddOns\PitBull\Combopoints\combo
09:30.57ckknightwhoops
09:31.04CartasI was going to just say :P
09:31.15evlwhat was the predecessor of SharedMEdia again?
09:31.52CIA-2303ckknight * r35785 10PitBull/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: PitBull - remove debug line
09:32.15ckknightevl: Surface
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09:40.15CIA-2303ckknight * r35786 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull_Portrait - add option to show the full body in 3D mode.
09:42.13evlkergoth: Mind if I update kEnergy to SharedMedia?
09:44.32kebinusanPitbull needs the option to change the number of rows of auras or something, I really dislike 2 rows of 20 auras
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09:45.08ckknightkebinusan: k, do anything to help that process along?
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09:45.20ckknights/do/doing
09:45.50ckknighthey beerke
09:48.12kebinusanharassing you count? :-)
09:48.27ckknightno
09:49.31kebinusanthen, um... nothing cause my lua skills are somewhere between pet rock and whats underneath said rock
09:49.43ckknighturine?
09:51.24kebinusansure I spose there could be
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09:55.21evlWhats the current popular tooltip addon?
09:55.33Silviu-Tinytip ?
09:55.47Vangualtinytip is hip atm i'd say yep :)
09:57.08Fisker-did something change on pitbull to debuff highlighting?
09:57.40ckknightFisker-: no
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09:59.38Diaotinytip looks funny :(
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09:59.53CIA-2303ckknight * r35787 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull_Portrait - add None fallback.
09:59.56Fisker-hmm
10:00.51Fisker-partyframes aren't getting coloured here :(
10:01.48NeeblerGumble 2 Gumble: beach justice!
10:02.35Diaowish someone would update tipbuddy :p
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10:04.30Fisker-neither the borders or the frames get any kind of colour indication on my pitbull :(
10:04.40ckknightFisker-: are you updated?
10:04.57Fisker-half an hour again
10:04.58ckknightto at least r35783
10:05.26Fisker-gonna try now
10:06.29Fisker-whoah
10:06.45Fisker-nice colouring change there :P
10:12.38Fisker-where is portrait? .o
10:12.42Fisker-can't find it anymore
10:12.54Fisker-unless you also fixed that in your last commit
10:14.09Silviu-Fisker- go to modules
10:14.12Silviu-And enable it again
10:14.12Silviu-;)
10:14.23Silviu-i was like o.O where are my portraits :P
10:14.50Fisker-ah
10:14.51Fisker-thanks :P
10:22.47xlviisilviu-, where was your post on changing textures again? ;p
10:23.46Silviu-:P
10:24.09Silviu-http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4215.0
10:25.41CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35788 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/FontSize.lua: Prat: Save font choice
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10:26.47theoddone33yay I've almost learned enough to make the stupidly simple mod I need
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10:28.52Tupsi3472the fenceman here?
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10:30.23Tupsianyone using fence as well?
10:30.50Tupsiseems the last update broke the "remembering old settings" for stuff to sell
10:31.40Kalman|Tupsi:  Yeah, getting the same issue.
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10:32.06Tupsifine, at least its not my paranoia then .-)
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10:37.52CIA-2303sylvanaar * r35789 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat.toc): Prat: Version 2.0 RC1
10:39.01CIA-2303sylvanaar 072.0RC1 * r35790 10Prat/: Prat: Tag 2.0RC1
10:44.41CIA-2303tsigo * r35791 10/branches/Cutup/ (. Cutup.toc libs/ modules/TickToxin.lua): (log message trimmed)
10:44.41CIA-23Cutup:
10:44.42CIA-23- Create a branch for 2.1 version.
10:44.42CIA-23- Bumped toc to 20100
10:44.42CIA-23- Deleted Charges, as there are no poison charges in 2.1
10:44.42CIA-23- Major overhaul of TickToxin; since we can no longer use charges to detect a
10:44.44CIA-23poison proc, we go with UNIT_AURA. As a side-effect, we no longer have to track
10:45.54CIA-2303tsigo 07modules * r35792 10Cutup/Charges.lua: Cutup: Really delete Charges this time.
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10:47.35fritzhi
10:48.33fritzany knows how to disable the "list" in metamap? it suddenly appeared and wotn disappear
10:50.14fritzhttp://yasuo.de/mirror/upload/WoWScrnShot_051807_124829.jpg
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10:54.41CIA-2303tsigo 07modules * r35793 10Cutup/TickToxin.lua: Cutup: Missed a Parser-3.0 mixin.
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11:05.36sylvanaarthe downloader is running again
11:05.51Mikk\o/
11:06.41evlsylvanaar: Background?
11:06.47sylvanaaryes
11:08.39evlnew one or the old 352 mg?
11:08.39evlnmb
11:08.39Fisker-woooh
11:08.39Fisker-almost exalted with sha'tar
11:08.39evlonly two factions left to get exalted with :(
11:08.39phyberthere was a patch on the US PTR yesterday, anyone know what the notes are for it or was it just more item changes?
11:08.40phyberas usual, the thread on the PTR forum just says "Incoming patch!"  with no detail :)
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11:09.42HjalteWhat addon can i use to hide buffs and debuffs? I want to use Pitbull only to display my buffs and debuffs.
11:11.32Daemonai bet 1k gold it was a fix to the mount hyjal encounter ;)
11:12.00DaemonaHjalte either configure pitbull, or use cancelation ?
11:12.44HjalteI mean hide the default buffs and debuffs :)
11:13.35nevcairielhttp://wowi.pastey.net/33387 <-- patchlog changes from yesterday, not sure how much is actually new
11:13.51kebinusanheh wow, http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/102816485.htm just read the whole stuff tseric was posting sunday
11:14.17kebinusannevcairiel: the only thing of note was a fix to the soulstone the raid sploits
11:14.24kebinusanthat I noticed anyway
11:14.40Kirkburn|afkThe dodge rating change - is that to prevent the 100%+ dodge thing?
11:15.11Megalonyes
11:15.20Megalonno more 120% dodge rogues :/
11:16.26cladhaire=(
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11:20.03kebinusanLots of warlocks qqing about the fear nerf on ptr, sounds pretty bad
11:20.45nevcairielwarlocks are always qqing
11:21.13kebinusanyeah I need to test it out myself
11:21.13yacoobqueueing?
11:21.33omega_rogues could get 100%+ dodge?
11:21.34kebinusanit sounds like fear is completely unreliable, *shrugs* who knows
11:21.41kebinusanyeah twinks could omega_
11:21.41omega_wouldn't that make them more or less invincible?
11:21.57kebinusanyou could still get killed by hunters and casters
11:22.09kebinusansince you cant dodge ranged shots or w/e
11:22.18omega_right
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11:25.43Mikkyou do dodge ranged shots, just with a much lower %
11:25.51Mikkand no magic always hits you =)
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11:29.40yacoobhm
11:29.45yacoobwhat are white attacks vs yellow attacks?
11:30.20Roartindonmelee vs non-melee
11:30.32clad|workno
11:30.33Roartindonor rather, anything that's yellow has a 'school'.. fire, frost, etc.
11:30.41clad|workauto-attack versus spell/abilities
11:30.46clad|workright?
11:30.56clad|worki'm doubting myself now, but isn't sinister strike a yellow attack?
11:31.08evlit is
11:31.08Roartindonclad: I think it's school, because it's based off type in the combat event?
11:31.11evlwhat's the fear nerf?
11:31.29clad|workRoartindon: well, melee attacks (sinister strike, mortal strike) don't have schools.
11:31.45Roartindonclad.. hmm.. CombatFeedback_OnCombatEvent.. if (type > 0) then color=yellow
11:31.46clad|workafaik white is auto-attack, yellow is any spell/ability
11:31.52Kalman|Clad's right.
11:31.54clad|workRoartindon: that's incoming damage
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11:32.09Roartindonoh, misunderstood the question, sorry.
11:32.10clad|workRoartindon: I'm talking about the world damage over mobs heads
11:32.12GagorianSpecial attacks vs auto-attack, indeed.
11:32.15Kalman|White is autoattack (but not autoshot), yellow is ability.
11:32.25yacoobthanks, clad|work
11:32.47RoartindonI stand corrected :)
11:32.55Roartindonjust reading that tseric thread atm
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11:37.42RoartindonI saw a level 10 hunter with 107% dodge a few days ago
11:37.45Roartindonwas on our guild forums
11:38.00Roartindondodge rating scaling for lower levels far more than it ever should have :)
11:41.10Matrix110well aslong as they just jump around in BGs and ppl waste their money at me paying fees for enchants they need to get twinks like that idc:P
11:41.10Matrix110but imagine if these could enter instances^^
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11:42.54Kirkburn|afkSounds like you haven't seen the vid of the level 10 rogue soloing Vancleef
11:43.18JoshBork1can they even port in?
11:43.28Kirkburn|afk10 is the lowest level to enter DM
11:43.39Matrix110but well
11:43.42Matrix1102.1 Notes:
11:43.42Matrix110Dodge Rating: Low level players now calculate dodge from dodge rating at the same rate as level 34 players.
11:43.49Kirkburn|afkindeed :)
11:43.55Kirkburn|afkIt's to prevent exactle that
11:44.00Kirkburn|afk*exactly
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11:44.49Matrix110this change makes no sense Oo
11:44.51Matrix110Hypothermia: If this debuff would prevent you from casting a spell on a given target, the button for that ability is now grayed out.
11:44.59Matrix110Hypothermia is from Iceblock
11:45.09Matrix110you cant cast Iceblock on others Oo
11:45.11Megalonhm, did prat change fonts or wtf
11:45.13Megalon>:<
11:45.35JoshBork1Matrix110: it's just a generic change that affects IceBlock also
11:45.39KinkxYea, they probably mean you can't cast Iceblock, it's a copy-pasted entry
11:45.47JoshBork1same as Divine Shield
11:46.03sbuoh - you cant be healed while having shield up?
11:46.14Matrix110Soulstones: Soulstones can no longer be used on targets not in your party or raid. In addition, the soulstone buff will now be removed if the target or caster leaves the party or raid.
11:46.15Kirkburn|afkMegalon, don't think Prat should have any effect on fonts
11:46.17Matrix110nice
11:46.28Matrix110so much to the "legit" Vashj kills:P
11:46.59Megaloni has a soulstone
11:47.08evlyou has soulstone
11:47.14evlwe has soulstone
11:47.17evlNINJA!
11:47.19sbu* Shadowfiend: Increased the Shadowfiend's chance to hit higher level enemies. <3
11:47.22Megalonwarlock has leaft the raid.
11:47.23Matrix110but i wonder if that change affects the 15 warlocks that could be potentially in the raid
11:47.25JoshBork1that's a lot of locks
11:47.27Megaloni has had no more soulstone
11:47.29Megalon:((((
11:47.51sbuoh
11:48.02sbuand rogue sword spec is going to be fine
11:48.29Matrix110Motes of Shadow now primarily drop from void creatures and have been removed from nearly all demons.
11:48.30Matrix110hmmk
11:48.33Matrix110ill buy the Ah empty
11:49.01nevcairielsounds like a good idea
11:49.08nevcairieli ran out of those to transmute into water
11:50.08Daemona(Matrix110) Soulstones: Soulstones can no longer be used on targets not in your party or raid. In addition, the soulstone buff will now be removed if the target or caster leaves the party or raid.
11:50.19fritzany knows how to disable the "list" in metamap? it suddenly appeared and wotn disappear
11:50.20sbu* Gruul is now more likely to use his Hurtful Strike and Ground Slam abilities on players instead of Cave-In.
11:50.20Daemonawell that reduces it to 15 soulstones of offline warlocks outside the instance :X
11:50.21fritzhttp://yasuo.de/mirror/upload/WoWScrnShot_051807_124829.jpg
11:50.23sbuhmm
11:50.34Matrix110Daemona i mentioned that aswell but i dunno if smth prevents that
11:50.44sbui dont understand - fewer cave ins + more ground slams?
11:51.05Matrix110nah
11:51.12Matrix110when the Ground Slam CD is over
11:51.21Matrix110Gruul used to cast Cave in on others
11:51.24Matrix110instead of doing Ground Slame
11:51.37sbuoh ok, didnt notice ;o
11:51.37KinkxProbably means they fixed him, sometimes he didn't use Ground Slam or hit the off-tank
11:51.38Matrix110and Ground Slam came like 10sec after the CD was over
11:51.49sbu* New interface option: Open Loot Window at Mouse <-- another addon to delete %-)
11:51.56Kinkxeasy mode Gruul bug
11:52.04Kinkxeasier*
11:52.22Daemonapfff if you talk about deleting addons check this:
11:52.24DaemonaStackable items retrieved from mail will automatically stack in your inventory
11:52.41evlanother addon to delete :P
11:53.52Megalononly took them 2years
11:53.56Megalonto implement it
11:54.56Matrix110-Guild names now appear in player tooltips
11:55.10Matrix110took kinda long^^
11:55.33evlanother addon to delete :D
11:56.21Matrix110couldnt live without TinyTip
11:56.25evlI don
11:56.30evl't use any of it's features anyway
11:56.34evlJust the Y offset
11:56.40Matrix110ah well i do:P
11:56.42Matrix110HP/Mana bar
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12:05.07fatmanhello, i am fat-man and i weigh 400 pounds.  you can see video of my supreme fatness at www.fat-man.org
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12:13.42evlckknight: I've just reset my savedvars but I'm experiencing an issue with auras: http://i18.tinypic.com/4zbvv5s.jpg . I've set Side to Top and Aura Direction to Up
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12:27.45Daemonahrrrmm i wonder if that error in the cartographer statistics module get ever fixed :/ http://wowace.pastey.net/34049
12:31.28CIA-2303evl * r35794 10PitBull/PitBull.toc:
12:31.28CIA-23PitBull
12:31.28CIA-23- Removed Blend layout as practically all it's functionality has been swallowed by ABF
12:34.45wobin_sigh
12:34.57wobin_I have "The Lonely Goatherd" from the sound of music stuck in my head
12:35.28wobin_This is what happens when you go have dinner at a Bavarian beer restaurant
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12:42.27phyberDaemona: probably not, since it's an error in Babble-Herbs ;)
12:42.44phyberor is it a typo in Stats causing the error? :o
12:46.50NeeblerI love the Blend font
12:47.13evlIt's still there
12:47.19evlbut as Vera Serif
12:47.24Neeblergoodie
12:48.21doktoreaslol i wonder if there's an addon that show who is moving with shade of aran and auto-insult him :D
12:49.17evlthere is
12:49.17knarf-can you actually detect who causes the wreath?
12:49.20evlit's called combat log
12:49.22evl+ reading skill
12:49.38evlyes, you will see [MOTHERFUCKER] Flame Burst You [4000]
12:49.49knarf-As far as I recall thats not always correct
12:50.01evlIt is :P
12:50.05knarf-if someone else caused that person to explode he can send it along :>
12:50.15evlbut you'll see the initial explosion on the perp!
12:50.17knarf-or some weird shit, or maybe i'm the weird one... anyway :P
12:50.21KinkxYea, as far as I know if someone moves into your circle, you go flying up
12:50.38evlThe first person to send flame wreath is the one to scream at on vent
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12:50.58abyssichatehttp://www.phun.org/newspics/funny_friday/1950.jpg
12:51.19knarf-btw is there any mod out there who canannounce (with sound) when a boss hits the different percent levels
12:51.36knarf-like 75,50,25,10-0 ? :)
12:51.49evlShouldn't be hard to make but :P
12:52.11knarf-I just thought it would be neat, for some odd reason, when i'm busy looking at raidframes :P
12:52.20knarf-not really needed I know :D
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12:58.50KinkxSome guy in my former guild had a mod that would announce everytime a boss was at 50%, and shout "OOOOH WE'RE HALF WAY THERE.. WHOA OOOH LIVING ON A PRAYER"
12:59.05KinkxFunny, but annoying ;p
12:59.08ilifinwonderful
12:59.18[dRaCo]sure that is was a mod and not just a macro?
12:59.42KinkxYea, it was a mod, he did use a macro first, but someone made him a mod.. :/
12:59.48Chompersthat sounds about as annoying as the pirate addon
13:00.31Kinkxhehe
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13:02.56kenlyricwe had a guild member that would play Journey during specific 5-man and MC boss fights.
13:03.50Fisker-I sometimes played benny hill when we were wiping
13:05.31evlWe play "Always look on the bright side of life" with Monty Python after wipes
13:05.49wobin_who knows how notes are sent by whisper with Cartographer?
13:06.52harldephinis there something that does what KC_Mobility should or will do ?
13:07.02wobin_Visor2?
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13:08.04[dRaCo]~seen nymbia
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13:11.38doktoreasevl, lol don't know that it can be see in combat log :D
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13:13.48josh|maDo GM's have special WoW versions or only special WoW accounts or both?
13:13.57nevcairielboth, i guess
13:14.04StephmwI would've thought both
13:14.25Stephmwotherwise people would have found the GameMasterFrame.xml by now :)
13:14.27josh|mahmm...
13:14.55omega_its basicly a logical thing: could they do it with only a special account (ie does every client have what it takes), and could it be done with only a client (ie, anyone logging in with that client would be GM)
13:15.26josh|mayes
13:15.33Fisker-wtf
13:15.35nevcairielsomeone should ask a GM that :P
13:15.44Fisker-(Rogues) Sword Specialization: This ability now grants extra yellow attacks instead of extra white attacks. This change will make Sword Specialization no longer reset the weapon swing timer when it triggers off special attacks, and results in a net increase in damage dealt.
13:15.45fritzwelches plugin nimmt quests sofort an?
13:15.46Fisker-for real?
13:15.57Fisker-proccing sword spec on sinister strike = extra sinister strike?
13:15.58wobin_Fisker-: Hey, I like that
13:16.08nevcairielFisker-: no
13:16.09Kalman|Fisker-: No.  It equals a full extra swing, instead of a timer acceleration.
13:16.12wobin_Nah, it'll be an extra 'sword strike'
13:16.16fritzwich plugin complotes/takes quests instantly?
13:16.21josh|mafritz: ich glaub hier spricht man nur englisch!
13:16.23Vangualit's actually been asked and answered, somewhere on somethingawful, extensive qa with an ex-gm
13:16.25nevcairielFisker-: the extra swing is yellow damage, bust just a swing, no attack.
13:16.35fritzjosh|ma: sry i dont understand
13:16.45fritzeng pls
13:16.58Fisker-so it's yellow so it doesn't reset the swing timer?
13:17.00josh|mafritz: I meaned the other fritz
13:17.07fritzsure
13:17.19fritzking firt the 1st
13:17.30Kalman|Fisker-: Yep.  Basically, makes sword spec into what it's always claimed to be, an extra swing, instead of timer accel.
13:17.37Fisker-^^
13:17.37Kalman|Curious if they kept OH procs MH swings or not, though.
13:17.56Kalman|It also has some other bonuses in that yellow attacks suffer less missrate (for DW) and don't glance.
13:19.26Fisker-didn't they remove glancing blows from bosses anyways?
13:19.37Kalman|Nah.  Reduced them, I hear, but they're still there.
13:19.39evlno, the reduced 12% to 5%
13:19.40josh|mafritz: there was a fritz talking german and I advised him in german to talk english
13:19.45evldamage reduction that is
13:20.07Kalman|ev1: So it's now 25% of swings at 25% reduction?
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13:20.10fritzjosh|ma: ah ok
13:20.43Matrix110iam confused Oo
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13:21.20arcanefoamgoodmorning
13:21.35Matrix110the fritz that talked german and the fritz that cant understand german are the same person and having a german Arcor Connection Oo
13:22.06fritzMatrix110: dont tell any1
13:22.18Josh_Borke(09:15:29 AM) fritz: welches plugin nimmt quests sofort an?
13:22.30Fisker-anyone remember the copy page for EU btw?
13:22.42sbuhttp://www.wow-europe.com/ptr/character-copy.html
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13:23.31doktoreasmates i just installed pitbull to test it over ag_uf.. they seem the same
13:23.41doktoreasthere are things that i sould know?
13:25.28[dRaCo]uhm.
13:25.46[dRaCo]not really, pitbull has some feature aguf hasn't
13:25.57doktoreasalso memory usage seem the same
13:26.01[dRaCo]but you'll find out yourself
13:26.08doktoreasok [dRaCo] thank you
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13:26.22doktoreasnow gotta solve a problem with healbot...anyone use it?
13:26.28[dRaCo]uh, that's weird. pitbull's mem usage is lower here
13:26.49Matrix110dRaCo prolly embedded libs:P
13:26.53doktoreas:D
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13:30.06CIA-2303phyber * r35795 10XPBarNone/ (Core.lua Textures/litestep.tga):
13:30.07CIA-23XPBarNone:
13:30.07CIA-23- Added LiteStep texture.
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13:32.49harldephinhmpf.
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13:35.10harldephinmaybe Niagara's button for emptying ColyLight's database should have a do-you-really-want-to-clear-this-database checkbox for dumb people like me
13:35.35harldephin(that's a joke. even if it's not funny.)
13:37.57CIA-2303phyber * r35796 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
13:37.57CIA-23XPBarNone:
13:37.57CIA-23- Commented out the GetRepHexColour stuff. I want to colour the text rep somewhere, I'm just not sure where yet. :)
13:45.00kenlyricthere needs to be a buff mod for fubar.
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13:46.30kenlyricshow all your buffs/debuffs on the fubar, it would be awesome and tiny.
13:47.59sedatedChipmunkfubar does not work that way
13:48.22kenlyricbah!
13:48.39kenlyricsee tcg tradeskills. BAH I say
13:48.55kenlyricditto for charmsfu
13:49.59Punkie`hey
13:50.23Punkie`would |c00FF00002|r give a red number 2 or error? *g*
13:50.47StephmwsedatedChipmunk: but it _could_ do it... one fubar_xxx addon per buff in the game!
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13:52.03Roartindonpunkie: |xffff00002|r would give red 2
13:52.10Roartindonerr.. |cffff00002|r
13:52.40kenlyricmeh, fubar can show dynamic data on the bar.
13:52.56Punkie`oh thanks, what would mine do? :o
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13:53.17RoartindonPunkie`: I'm guessing 0 alpha.. not show anything, but I don't know for certain
13:53.23Punkie`ok
13:53.40Punkie`so |cffffffff6|r would give a white 6?
13:53.57Roartindonyes
13:54.02Roartindonif there are 8 f's there
13:54.06Roartindonwhich I can't tell wtih this font :)
13:54.35Punkie`ok thanks :D
13:56.12Punkie`how many times can you do elseif?
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13:56.17Punkie`a million?
13:57.07sylvanaardunno, try and hit the limit
13:57.25Punkie`excellent
13:57.32krkathere is no limit
13:57.35krkaexcept for lua function size
13:57.41sylvanaarthere is in practice
13:57.48Punkie`so 2 is ok?
13:57.50Punkie`:D
13:58.03krkasure, harddrive size, compiler memory, bytecode size, et,c,
13:58.05Punkie`I just never found an example of more than 1
13:58.06sylvanaarright
13:58.41kenlyricis there a buff mod wher eyou can make them a very compact verticle list of just icon and time? (or horizontal)
13:59.06kenlyricverticle? vertical.
13:59.11krkathere's a limit on how many bytes the compiled bytecode function uses and that's regardless of elseif-usage
13:59.34hyperChipmunkcan't ebbs do that?
13:59.42Kalman|kenlyric: What happens if you use elkBuffBars and set the width really low?
14:00.05kenlyricit cuts off the name but not in a predictable way.
14:00.16kenlyricso you either cut off part of the time, or you have a little bit of the name left.
14:00.35Kalman|Hack it to not display the name at all?
14:00.39kenlyricand there doesn't seem to be an option to make it horizontal.
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14:13.56CIA-2303wobin * r35797 10FuBar_HeyFu/Core.lua: FuBar_HeyFu: Fixed the single word prefix filters to work with <> etc and made it autounafk on restart/reload
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14:24.19CIA-23Incubator:
14:24.19CIA-23<PROTECTED>
14:25.45sbu~seen Elkano
14:27.09purlelkano <n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-178.handshake.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 20m 45s ago, saying: 'yes'.
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14:35.37Punkie`Need more help :(
14:35.48harldephini still haven't gotten Fence's autofill function to work. - i'll try completely deleting anything Fencish and reload with a clean one.
14:36.09Kalman|harldephin: broke for me with the most recent update.  :/
14:36.16Punkie`Why do I get  TickTo-1.0\core.lua:93: attempt to index field 'MainFrame' (a nil value)
14:36.31Punkie`when i made a frame like this: local f = CreateFrame("Frame", "MainFrame", UIParent)
14:36.33harldephinKalman|: when was that update ?
14:36.43Kalman|Within the last day or two.
14:37.11harldephinok
14:38.33Josh_BorkePunkie`: what's on line 93?
14:38.43Punkie`self.MainFrame.si:SetText(pcount)
14:39.10Punkie`where f.si is : f.si = f:CreateFontString(nil,"OVERLAY")
14:39.50nevcairielso whats your problem now? :)
14:40.02nevcairielare you sure you set self.MainFrame to f ?
14:40.24Punkie`I dont really know, I'm just learning really :(
14:40.31nevcairiel(and you should prefix your frame with a addon shortcut, MainFrame is somewhat too generic)
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14:40.56Punkie`ok, I can change that later but it's still not working :P
14:41.10nevcairielyou should do local f = CreateFrame(..)
14:41.15nevcairielself.MainFrame = f
14:41.17nevcairielor so
14:41.39Punkie`hmm
14:41.56Punkie`can I dcc you the core so you can have a look? :)
14:42.12nevcairieli dont think dcc works for me, pastey it or something
14:42.17Punkie`ok
14:42.21Punkie`don't laugh at me tho :<
14:42.50Punkie`http://ace.pastey.net/34198
14:44.09nevcairieljust add "self.MainFrame = f" to the end of your own CreateFrame func
14:46.40Punkie`oki dokie
14:47.35Punkie`this would be so cool if it worked
14:50.03Punkie`omg it does! yay!
14:51.20Punkie`thanks nevcairiel ^^
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15:07.11CIA-23Babble-2.2: Babble-Trainer
15:07.11CIA-23- Added Cooking
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15:09.13CIA-23Cartographer_Trainers
15:09.13CIA-23* Filters
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15:16.39Neeblerhttp://neebler.tetro.net/latestUI.jpg
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15:17.55Jagobahwhat actionbar mod is that
15:18.07Jagobahhmmmm actually
15:18.16Jagobahit looks like it's got some textured background
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15:18.32Neeblereepanels as the backgrounds. bartender3. cycircled
15:18.34Punkie`Hey Neebler, what are those hazard icons on FuBar, I've seen a few people with them but I don't know which mod it is or what it does :p
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15:18.58NeeblerFubar_FriendsFu and Fubar_GuildFu
15:19.06Neebleryellow = friends
15:19.27Punkie`oh ok
15:19.36Jagobahwhat are those unitframes :o ???
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15:19.48nevcairielthats pitbull
15:20.01Jagobahoooo
15:20.15NeeblerYessum
15:21.07Jagobahand I see some kind of scrolling battle text on the lower right hand side.  Which addon does that (with the spell graphics too)
15:21.25nevcairieleavesdrop prolly
15:21.42Neeblerfantastic combatlog
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15:34.20Punkie`nevcairiel: poke!
15:35.05Punkie`Can you please have a look again, it works perfect :D
15:35.07Punkie`butttt
15:35.18Punkie`I'm trying to make it save it's position when you move it
15:35.24Punkie`with no luck :(
15:35.32Punkie`http://ace.pastey.net/34233
15:36.32GagorianSpecial attacks vs auto-attack, indeed.
15:36.51harldephinwhy does Niagara has an "AltNames" listed in its tree's root _and_ in the Prat thread as well ?
15:37.40Neeblerdelete prat, reinstall?
15:38.00nevcairielPunkie`: dunno, looks good
15:38.05nevcairielis it doing anything?
15:38.10Punkie`well
15:38.13Punkie`i can move it
15:38.16Punkie`but if i do /rl
15:38.23Punkie`its in the middle again
15:38.42nevcairielcheck your SV if it actually saves anything
15:39.14Punkie`1 sec
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15:40.06Punkie`I don't even have a TickTo savedvar :S
15:40.11nevcairielheh
15:40.33nevcairieldo you have the TTDB in SavedVariables in your .toc?
15:40.39Punkie`uhh
15:40.40Punkie`no :D
15:40.50nevcairiel## SavedVariables: TTDB
15:40.50nevcairielor so
15:40.54Punkie`oki
15:41.32Punkie`I need to quit the game to reload a toc or just rl?
15:41.44nevcairielnot sure
15:41.46nevcairieltry /rl
15:41.49nevcairieland see if it works :P
15:41.52Punkie`kk
15:42.02phybertotal game reload for TOC
15:42.14nevcairielnah not always
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15:42.20nevcairielchanging metadata fields works with /rl
15:42.43phyberah, fair enough.  I just associate it with changing the files that are loaded ;)
15:43.15nevcairielwhen was that?
15:43.27Punkie`didnt work gonna try restart
15:44.33phyberlong ago.  I forget the patch it got nerfed in.
15:45.02phyberprobably nerfed in 1.2 or 1.3
15:45.41Punkie`ok
15:45.45Punkie`i think it worked
15:45.50Punkie`but it also broke
15:46.31Punkie`it's not on my screen :P
15:46.42evlwowace.com going panbg again?
15:47.00Punkie`do i need another variable in f:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", UIParent, x, y)
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15:50.40Tulleractually you could change toc stuff in one of the TBC betas, I think
15:51.42Tulleralso, someone make damage meters in pie chart form :)
15:54.19nevcairielPunkie`: try adding a "BOTTOMLEFT" after the UIParent .. at least thats what i use ;)
15:54.39Punkie`I did :)
15:54.41Punkie`works!!
15:54.56Punkie`omg i rock
15:54.58CryectTuller: http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6152/recounttest2kc0.jpg
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15:55.55nevcairielthats looks fun
15:55.59nevcairielaltho, i dont see the point :P
15:56.12kenlyricso.... prat changed my font.
15:56.15kenlyricthat bitch.
15:56.37Matrix110huh?
15:56.56art3misnevcairiel: its for the accountants playing wow
15:57.10art3misthey loves their pie charts ;P
15:57.24CryectThat one the pie's aren't as useful as for other stuff but heh he asked for it
15:57.28NimbalHmmm... pie...
15:57.34[dRaCo]Cryect: that one looks cool, which addon is it?
15:57.49CryectRecount not really in a usable form yet
15:58.09moonsorrowanyone knows why the portrait module in pitbull is not working?
15:58.13kenlyricit's no longer using the default wow font.
15:58.17[dRaCo]will it be usable anytime soon?
15:58.35art3miswelll
15:58.38kenlyricPrat:  Save font choice ... guessing it was this update.
15:58.44art3misyou'd have to ask ckk
15:59.00CryectShortly enough it should be, assuming I don't get too distracted doing more things like http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/856/mode7testor1.jpg
15:59.19art3misi suggest phraseing it as such "god dammit ckk why the fuck doesnt the portraits work in yer GD piece of crap addon, god learn to code noob!"
15:59.28[dRaCo]wtf, looks mario cart-ish
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15:59.33art3mis;)
15:59.38art3mishe likes being talked down to
15:59.42art3mishe told me so
15:59.47CryectWell it should look mario kartish
15:59.56[dRaCo]gj, then ;)
16:00.01art3misyou're making mario kart for wow?!
16:00.22kenlyricomgomgomgomg.
16:00.32kenlyricbest racing game EVER
16:00.44CryectMaybe later, it was more we were talking yesterday and I was like hmm could I make a mode 7 texturer for WoW and thought yes I could with a few tricks
16:00.48art3misfuck raiding mag
16:00.55art3misi'd sit i shat playing that all day
16:01.12CryectTry out mode 7 test its on the files.ace.com
16:01.18art3mismake it multiplayer and we could rqace for cash!
16:01.21kenlyricwow needs a race.
16:01.24Cryecthaha
16:01.26kenlyricwith mario kart physics.
16:02.38kenlyricand each class has their own special abilities.
16:02.39art3misheh we used to have races down in shimmering
16:02.39[dRaCo]Frostshock!
16:02.39kenlyricFEAR
16:02.39art3misyou were allowed 1 "helper" person
16:02.39art3mishunter mob pulls always won ;)
16:03.40Matrix110Toad was the best anyway!
16:03.40kenlyricdefinitely.
16:03.41kenlyricuntil you learned how to drive.
16:05.45Kirkburn|afkkergoth, ping
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16:18.31NeeblerCryect! Killimus? gnome mage? I know that fool, was my former guild leader in Onslaught
16:19.01Cryectyes
16:19.26Neeblerhe's pretty good, surprised his DPS is so low on those charts
16:19.35Cryectwell he's a gnome mage not sure if he was the latter (heh I barely pay attention to where people come from)
16:19.36Tullerhurray mode 7 and pie charts :)
16:19.57Tullerand yeah I wanted it purely for entertainment value :)
16:20.00CryectProlly because those are like damage meter charts starting from zoning into magtheridon's lair
16:20.16Cryectand he was prolly like afk for the trash like half the raid feels like it is normally
16:20.57HjalteThe mode 7 test on wowace rocks.. GJ to the author :)
16:21.03Cryectthanks
16:21.53hyperChipmunkuh, mode 7?
16:22.04Kalman|radioSNES-style mode7 graphics.
16:22.09hyperChipmunkwasn't that like the scaling method used in super nintendo?
16:22.11hyperChipmunklol
16:22.18nevcairiellol
16:22.33Cryectyeah it kinda got the name for that method of texture scaling
16:23.08Cryectthere was 7 other modes of texture scaling surprise as well on the SNES
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16:27.33hyperChipmunkrofl awesome
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16:33.01hyperChipmunkdo you plan on doing something useful with it? =)
16:33.25Cryectyeah when I get Recount in a more usable form
16:33.58Cryecthave some ideas coming together for a racer but need some actual planning
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16:34.22hyperChipmunkthat's not exactly what i meant by "useful" =)
16:34.33Cryecthehe you mean actual useful?
16:34.40Cryectis there anything actually useful you could do with it?
16:34.47hyperChipmunkthat's what i wanted to know!
16:35.09CryectIf you could create textures from scratch on the fly in WoW I would say yes
16:35.25hyperChipmunkcould be some cool minimap thing maybe
16:35.25Cryectbut since we can only use prebaked textures I would say no
16:35.51CryectSure if you want you could do something like that for a dungeon or small area
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16:36.08CryectIt has to be one texture though whatever it is
16:36.38hyperChipmunkif you could trace character movement and rotation, you could theoretically use that with translation and rotation of the map in mode7 to give a view of your position in the dungeon
16:37.11CryectYou can trace character movement and rotation thats easy
16:38.19hyperChipmunkit'd almost certainly get out-of-sync, though
16:38.37Cryectwait why trace movement?
16:38.37nevcairielprolly
16:38.44Cryectinstead of just getting hte player coord?
16:38.52hyperChipmunkno coords in dungeons
16:38.53nevcairieldungeons dont have that
16:38.55CryectYes you do ;)
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16:39.00Cryectcheck out my library GPSLib
16:39.15Cryectand followme for a quick demo of it in action
16:39.19Kalman|radioStill waiting on that Ouro mod for IMBA, Cryect.  :p
16:39.34Cryectyes I'm still waiting on my 4 horseman recorder :-p
16:39.52nevcairielhow do you do it? based on minimap stuff?
16:40.18CryectOnly wrote up the code for figuring out player coordinates in dungeons 6 months ago and even communication code but never wrote code to record/display it back then
16:40.32CryectI take advantage of how minimap pings work
16:42.06CryectRead GPS-1.0.lua it should describe the method in enough details for you in the comments at the top
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16:42.23sbuhm, wait Cryect - it pings every few seconds? or only once / instance?
16:42.28CryectIt pings never
16:42.31sbuoh...
16:42.39sbuwtb cartographer module :p
16:43.40nevcairielthat would be awesome
16:43.45nevcairielplayer position in a dungeon map
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16:46.08Cryecthttp://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1829/paththroughmanatombssi7.jpg
16:46.18Cryectjust a path I took stealthing through mana tombs while testing it out
16:46.33Josh_Borkethat's hot
16:46.37Gnarfozindeed it is
16:46.45Gnarfozwas when he first showed it, too :D
16:47.38omega_shit, nice
16:47.45Neeblerthat would be a great addition to cartographer or atlas
16:48.07hyperChipmunkadd it to either and it'd get totally hotfixed to oblivion
16:48.26Neeblerto show your current place on the map? I don't think so
16:48.30StephmwI do
16:48.48Stephmwthey've made sure you can't get the info atm, I doubt they'd do it without reason
16:49.00CryectActually the reason you couldn't before was for other stuff
16:49.17CryectWith the original UI stuff you could write a full bot
16:49.27kenlyrichttp://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070331
16:49.46hyperChipmunkyea, but seeing it in a widespread mod would open up the whole can of worms
16:49.50NeeblerI fail to see any benefit from knowing where you've been in a dungeon on a pre-rendered map. Seeing as how atlas has been out for years
16:49.59Neeblerother than being a neat thing to see
16:50.17StephmwNeebler: the power comes from adding networking and group coordination
16:50.22CryectLets say I made an addon that said are you in a safe zone on Heigan
16:50.22kenlyricwho cares where you've been.
16:50.27kenlyricwe care where everyone else is :)
16:50.36CryectI almost actually did that for IMBA but didn't :-p
16:50.44kenlyric"why are you in aran's room, noob"
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16:51.38CryectI mean they didn't choose to get rid of interact distances which is just about as bad and gave us more flexibility
16:52.21hyperChipmunkrangefinding in dungeons is still a pain in the neck
16:52.34hyperChipmunkarbitrary rangefinding
16:52.54CryectStill be a pain in the neck with GPSLib since you can only then find out range of players and have to communicate
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16:59.10Funkeh`hey
17:00.04Jagobahwhat ability allows a warlock to heal for 8k health instantly
17:00.59Josh_Borkedeath coil
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17:01.48NelsonMI'm just about to write my first GUI, to add it to an Ace2 addon I've written. Is there some good tutorial to get me started?
17:02.01Josh_BorkeFara_Frames on wowinterface :-D
17:02.02NelsonMI've found lots of reference docs on wowwiki, but was hoping for a simple tutorial "here's how to create a frame, here's how to decorate it"
17:02.44Jagobahwasn't death coil
17:02.50NelsonMjosh_borke: this one? http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/
17:02.59Josh_Borkesounds about right
17:03.18NelsonMok, ty. one question; do I have to use XML, or can I do all the frame creation via lua calls?
17:03.29Josh_Borkeyou can do it all in lua
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17:03.46NelsonMok, thank you
17:03.55NelsonMwhy was AceGUI dropped? Too much work?
17:04.01Josh_Borkeat which point Fara Frames won't help much
17:04.14NelsonMI'll do whatever's easiest, I just usually hate declarative GUI languages
17:04.51Neeblerhealthstone jagobah
17:04.53Josh_Borkei'd say neither one is easier :-)  at least once you get used to it
17:05.16NelsonMthe Ace2 WelcomeHome tutorial is awesome. Just doesn't cover GUIs
17:05.29Josh_Borkefor me personally, knowing XML made it easier for me to transition to creating frames in lua, since i understood how the frames were really defined
17:05.42Cryectyeah learning XML was the easiest way only one problme
17:05.46Cryectthe XML debugger is nonexistant
17:05.51Cryectyou won't get any error messages >_>
17:06.03Cryectso if something is wrong with your XML file it just won't load
17:06.13NelsonMsounds like a real pleasure.
17:06.41CIA-2303ulic * r35802 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Skyriss.lua: LittleWigs: SK/Skyriss - added split warning and a bug fix
17:06.58NelsonMhow often do minor ace2 updates cause compatibility problems? I had trouble once with the latest from SVN breaking ScrollingCombatText
17:07.03NelsonMis that rare, or common?
17:07.30Cryectshould be rare if the library developers are making sure to keep backwards compatibility
17:07.49Josh_BorkeNelsonM: honestly, it's on the whim of the developers
17:07.59NelsonMfair enough. I'm talking core Ace2 libraries though
17:08.09Josh_Borkethey changed the way Ace2 handles events to create a frame for each Ace2 addon to make profiling more precise
17:08.22Cryectoh yeah that was a major change
17:08.36Cryectdidn't they revert though?
17:08.43Josh_Borkedon't think so
17:08.47NelsonMdid it require that each addon change their code to accomodate it? I imagine SCT is a bit deeper into the client than most addons, though
17:08.59Cryectthere was some initial issues with it
17:09.07Cryectlike it broke every single addon at first :-p
17:09.35NelsonMahahaha. sounds like a rare event though
17:09.39Cryectyeah
17:09.50NelsonMI imagine there's not much automated testing of the Ace2 code.
17:10.12Josh_Borkeno
17:10.19CryectDon't think people really write unittests to run at each start
17:10.36NelsonMwell most of the testing you'd want to do would be inside the WoW client, and that's a big pain
17:10.56CryectProlly should be some testing addons to ensure everything works though in theory
17:11.13NelsonMcertainly for things like AceOO and AceAddon
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17:14.36Josh_BorkeCryect: i know that Dongle has a set of unittests that they use
17:14.46Cryectthats good :)
17:15.01CryectI really should have said most people
17:16.04Josh_Borkei personally have no idea what unittests are :-D
17:16.25Cryectbasically a bunch of functions that calls everything and verifies it returns the right results
17:16.33Cryectthey should check all the border cases
17:16.40Cryectand a few random sample
17:16.41Cryects
17:16.49NelsonMa trivial unit test:
17:16.53NelsonMassert sqrt(4) == 2
17:17.03NelsonMa serious unit test framework makes it really easy to do serious tests like that. it's a huge win
17:17.19Cryectwith a border case checking for like 1, 0 and -1
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17:18.48NelsonMgreat thing about unit tests is they are permanent. your code will never have a bug if you have a test for it
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17:19.14Cryectwell it can just the test will tell you it failed :-p
17:19.15chutwigthe boxes these servers came in make really good footrests
17:19.28NelsonMchutwig: the servers themselves don't?
17:19.38chutwigNelsonM: 1U does not a good footrest make
17:19.40Josh_Borkei just tower cases as chairs all teh time
17:19.54CryectI've been using a TV as a footrest myself recently
17:19.54chutwigi have an old G4 i usually use as a footrest
17:20.09chutwigi unpacked one server, the other's still in its box
17:20.25chutwighp kindly neglected to install optical drives in either server and i don't feel like going to steal the external DVD drive again
17:20.38Cryecthaha
17:20.42Cryectjust install via serial cable
17:20.46NelsonMfloppy!
17:20.58chutwigi had to use a floppy drive as well to install the drivers for the SAS controller :(
17:21.03chutwigheight of technology in 1987
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17:21.18chutwigbut the server is lovely
17:21.24chutwig3 minutes of iLO and i'm completely spoiled
17:21.24Cryectdid you have to use a serial program to be able to insert your commands and stuff?
17:21.47NelsonMpeople used to toggle in bootstraps on switches on the console
17:21.55chutwigthey make it so easy now
17:22.04Cryectyep
17:22.20chutwigthere's a nifty little panel that pops out of the front too that has all sorts of warning indicator lights on it
17:22.34chutwigso in summary my hp buying experience can be summed up as "the equipment is great, fuck the company"
17:23.21Cryectnot great yet since it hasn't automated your booting and installation via LAN
17:23.40chutwigi'm too lazy to set up kickstar
17:23.42chutwigt
17:23.52chutwiglazy and surly
17:24.04NelsonMtell me you're not running hp/ux
17:24.05Cryectyeah but if the hardware was greater wouldn't matter that you are lazy
17:24.17chutwighp/ux is the One True Operating System
17:24.28chutwig...just kidding it's running centos 5
17:24.31NelsonMhahaha
17:24.40CryectII thought they retired HP/Ux a while ago?
17:24.46chutwigit's still around
17:24.48NelsonMthey probably did, shows what I know
17:24.57NelsonMjust revisiting 10 year old nightmares
17:25.08chutwigi think hp's relationship to hp/ux is like IBM's relationship to aix
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17:25.23chutwigthey still support it and maintain it even while they generally push people in the direction of using linux
17:25.23Cryectlegacy support what fun
17:25.53chutwigthough i don't know if IBM has taken to reviving AIX for their new z-series stuff
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17:38.43Punkie`Hey guys
17:38.54Punkie`Say if I make a mod with a frame called A
17:39.05Punkie`can I make another mod and attach it to that frame?
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17:39.45CryectSure
17:40.43CryectJust make sure you can find the frame before you try to do something with it
17:40.43Punkie`ok so I need to make sure the addon with frame A loads before the other?
17:40.43Cryectsure just add the addon with Frame A as an optional dependency
17:40.46Cryectthen the other addon will always load first
17:40.46Punkie`neat, thanks
17:40.51Cryectbut you still need to make sure the frame is there
17:40.55Cryectin case they don't have the addon
17:41.05Cryector some error occurs not allowing hte frame to get created
17:41.10Punkie`I'm just editing some mods I have here personally
17:41.14Cryectheh k
17:41.23Punkie`like have FuBar FuXP attach to something else
17:41.25Punkie`:>
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17:46.29yacoobhttp://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20070516
17:46.30yacoob:D
17:47.07XuerianXD
17:48.52Punkie`Crycet: What does it mean if I get this error, hehe: [2007/05/18 18:46:54-1100-x1]: FuBar_FuXPFu\FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:548: '<name>' expected near '"TestFrame"'
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17:49.00Punkie`And TestFrame does exist :)
17:49.08Cryectwell whats the line of code?
17:49.21knarf-What does the error 'Attempt to call method 'OnCommRecieve' (a nil value) mean, that the function is not defined or something with the arguments?
17:49.23Punkie`Give me a sec
17:51.39Punkie`The line is: self.RepBar:SetPoint(point, "TestFrame", relpoint, 0, y * self.XPBar:GetHeight())
17:52.28Josh_Borkeknarf-: function is not defined
17:52.43knarf-Josh_Borke odd, because it is defined and used :P
17:53.00Josh_Borkenot in the context that it is erroring
17:53.05Punkie`knarf-: zomg pasty or gtfo!
17:53.07Josh_Borkepossibly a problem with self
17:53.24knarf-Josh_Borke might be
17:53.35Cryectdid you call with :
17:53.42knarf-Cryect ye
17:53.50Josh_Borkeshouldn't matter (for that exact error)
17:54.37CryectYeah shouldn't just looks lke its trying to call a function it can't find for some reason
17:54.57Josh_Borkelol
17:55.37Cryectand Punkie`s line kinda strange
17:55.48XuerianPunkie`: Don't quote testframe
17:55.52Punkie`:o
17:55.54CryectElse than I would say the frame name of "TestFrame" isn't prolly a good name
17:56.13XuerianNamed frames are already globals
17:56.19XuerianAnd local frames are variables, which don't get quoted likewise
17:56.30Cryectoh
17:57.01Xuerianlocal * nameless frames you have a reference to
17:57.16Punkie`do i do:
17:57.24Cryecthuh
17:57.26Punkie`self.RepBar:SetParent(TestFrame)
17:57.27Punkie`or
17:57.34Punkie`self.RepBar:SetParent("TestFrame")
17:57.36yacoobwow-loot.com made some JS monster that freeze up firefox!
17:57.38Punkie`no quotes right?
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17:57.52XuerianNo quotes.
17:58.24XuerianJust like you don't quote UIParent when you use it in CreateFrame. It's a named frame, thus is a global in lua already
17:58.31Punkie`goddammit
17:59.06Punkie`its as if these damn lines arent even needed in FuXPfu
17:59.06Punkie`it's still stuck to the fubar!
17:59.06Xuerianck uses weird juju.
17:59.12Cryectdid you clear all points?
17:59.16Cryectbefore you set the new points?
17:59.23XuerianWell. that too :p
17:59.34Punkie`no i just changed the bit that said 'self.FuBar' to 'TestFrame'
17:59.35Punkie`:D
17:59.45Punkie`classic
17:59.48Cryecthaha then yeah its trying to attach itself to two frames then
18:00.01Cryectsuprised the frame isn't doing weird stuff on you
18:00.06XuerianCryect: It couldn't hurt, but not necessarily, if he's modifying the actual fubar code
18:00.31CryectXuerian: Well he was talking about writing an addon that modified it I thought?
18:00.56XuerianCryect: In that case you're perfectly right, I thought he was doing some local modifications
18:01.07Punkie`!!
18:01.22Punkie`I'm only editing FuBar_FuXPFu.lua locally
18:01.28Cryectoh okay then shouldn't need that
18:01.46Cryectthen its ckk's mojo
18:02.06kenlyricman, I need a default profile for the blizzard's friends list :/
18:02.16Punkie`oh wait, I THINK I GOT IT
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18:13.27Kemayomoonsorrow: Define "not working" in relation to the portrait module.
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18:17.05Punkie`yay, it worked btw ^^
18:17.09Punkie`thanks guys :)
18:22.04CryectAny reason  WowAceUpdater-1.8.13-bin.zip has only the license.txt and readme.txt in it?
18:24.48hyperChipmunkdoes the readme contain the sole phrase 'l2svn noob', by chance?
18:25.02kenlyricsuck it, hC
18:25.34kenlyrichmmm.. mine just says "hahaha keylogger"
18:25.55Cryectthe real reason for forced upgrading to 1.8
18:29.21NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: lol
18:29.31CIA-2303Tristan * r35805 10GirlFriend/GirlFriend.lua:
18:29.32CIA-23GirlFriend:
18:29.32CIA-23- AceOptionsTable changes
18:29.59XuerianSigns it's a ace mod, #40: It's function is to replace your girlfriend. And it does.
18:30.13Kaeltenlol
18:30.14Cryectwtf
18:30.24Kaeltenif you can get some from an ace mod thats a talented interface alright
18:30.39Cryectso its ingame porn?
18:30.45Kaeltenquestion any one know when we can expect directx10?
18:30.45XuerianXD
18:30.56NelsonMkaelten: vista only
18:30.58CryectWhen you upgrade to Vista
18:31.03Xuerian^
18:31.16Kaeltenya I know its vista only
18:31.16Kaeltendoes vista already have dx10?
18:31.18Punkie`yep
18:31.20CryectYou mean when Vista fails and they backport it?
18:31.42KaeltenI wonder when games are going to start requiring dx10
18:31.44XuerianI don't get why the dev houses didn't use ogl
18:31.46CryectStill buggy as hell last I heard
18:31.47Vangualor when someone find the toggle in the installer to disable the os check ;)
18:31.50NelsonMvista won't fail. but it's gonna take a long time before you can require dx10
18:32.04CryectYeah, I know Vista won't fail
18:32.14Kaeltenheh
18:32.18CryectI mean Dell doesn't even sell WinXP with their computers anymore
18:32.21Josh_Borkevista shall fail like ME failed
18:32.25XuerianThey do.
18:32.27Kaeltenthey can afford a few billion in losses
18:32.28XuerianThey backpedaled
18:32.32Cryectoh good
18:32.41XuerianIt's a option, anyway
18:33.25kenlyricyeah, that's why MS said they won't ship it after this year :)
18:33.30CryectTill drivers are fixed for Vista no reason to change though it seems like just another attempt to pound another nail in OpenGL by forcing it to go through another abstraction layer last I heard
18:33.50XuerianNo shit
18:33.52kenlyricopengl lives?
18:33.56CryectKinda
18:34.06Xuerianeugh.
18:34.09chutwigit must be fun living in your insular windows world ken
18:34.10kenlyricok, opengl lives in a real game? :)
18:34.11XuerianThat's like a groinshot
18:34.19Xueriankenlyric: WoW
18:34.22CryectDon't want anything to have direct hardware access unless its DirectX!
18:34.35kenlyricXuerian: why would anyone know or care?
18:34.48Xueriankenlyric: Because ogl can multthread :)
18:34.48CryectI care since I code in OpenGL?
18:34.51Xuerianmultithred*
18:34.54Xueriana fuckit
18:34.57Xuerianah.
18:35.00hyperChipmunkbecause only retards use windows
18:35.04hyperChipmunkand not all gamers are retards
18:35.07Josh_Borke:-(
18:35.10chutwigmost are :(
18:35.12Josh_Borkei'm not a retard
18:35.15hyperChipmunkyes, but not all
18:35.18hyperChipmunkdo you use windows?
18:35.52XuerianOn my main box, anyway <.<
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18:36.00Josh_Borkeyes, i use windows at home
18:36.04hyperChipmunkyou're a retard, then!
18:36.06Josh_Borkeand am the linux admin at work :-(
18:36.11NelsonMI"m a bad person because I actually like Windows
18:36.16Josh_Borkei don't want to pay to play wow
18:36.26kenlyricXuerian: flee!
18:36.31Josh_Borkewel,l i mean above and beyond what i already pay :-P
18:36.37Punkie`Does BOTTOMCENTER exist?
18:36.37CryectI'm fine with Windows just not fond of the changes in Vista
18:36.40Kirkburn|afkNelsonM, I'm going to be oh-so-predictable and say no you aren't :)
18:36.40hyperChipmunkkenlyric: you did a pretty good job of it with those opengl comments
18:36.42hasteJosh_Borke: wine works fine
18:36.42NelsonMJosh: is Ace2GoldFarmer your addon? :-)
18:36.47hyperChipmunkPunkie`: BOTTOM
18:36.47Xueriankenlyric: Nah, I've got a linux box at my feet, just not enough ram to put it into production :P
18:36.55Punkie`aha
18:36.59Punkie`thanks :)
18:37.00hasteJosh_Borke: equally with cedega that is
18:37.02XuerianPunkie`: Any direct attach (left, right, top, bottom) are *center
18:37.06kenlyrichyperChipmunk: sorry, those two do not relate.
18:37.27Punkie`im such a nub at this :D
18:37.49XuerianPunkie`: If you want something to attach it's whole side x to something else's apposing side x, you have to set point the two corners on the edge
18:37.50kenlyricmy ignorance that opengl still existed has nothing to do with my preference of operating systems.
18:38.04Xueriankenlyric: ogl still exists, and can do very much of the same stuff dx10 can
18:38.10hyperChipmunkyea, they do; proclaiming its death and hailing directx is pretty dickish to pretty much everything but windows
18:38.30Punkie`yup xuerian :)
18:38.35NelsonMis WoW really all in OpenGL? I had no idea.
18:38.38CryectThey really need to fix the OpenGL standards board though
18:38.40XuerianNo
18:38.41kenlyricXuerian: which is why I suspect it doesn't appear in every game article I read, like it did in the 90s.
18:38.41chutwigactually it has everything to do with it, because directx only exists on windows
18:38.41CryectNo
18:38.46Cryectthe WIndows OpenGL Client sucks
18:38.48chutwigeverything else opengl rules the roost
18:38.54Cryectdo -opengl if you want to run it in that mode
18:38.56XuerianIt has ogl mode in windows, but uses ogl on osx/linux, iirc
18:38.59Cryectits really only used for Mac
18:39.00hyperChipmunkopengl destroys directx
18:39.02NelsonMso the Mac version of WoW; new code, a DirectX emulator?
18:39.06chutwigopengl
18:39.07kenlyricI mean, you can't honestly deny that the directX/opengl war is as public as it was 10 years ago.
18:39.12chutwigit just uses the opengl rendering path
18:39.21kenlyricerrr *isn't*
18:39.21chutwigthe path still exists on windows but is deprecated in favor of directx
18:39.21NelsonMcan you use opengl with WoW on Windows?
18:39.23Cryectits just very unoptimized for windows
18:39.24CryectYes
18:39.26chutwigyou can if you want
18:39.29NelsonMwow, I had no idea
18:39.31CryectI've used it for when I wanted to replace WoW shaders
18:39.31hyperChipmunkmaybe not on your windows, but that's your problem
18:39.34Xueriankenlyric: Of course not, you can only take so many crotchkicks before you're out of the public eye
18:39.49chutwigmicrosoft's smear campaigns do work awfully well
18:40.03Cryectand also for a custom frame & depth grabber
18:40.13Xuerianchutwig: And no doubt fear campaigns
18:40.16hyperChipmunkeverywhere else in the computer world, in fact, it's totally not a debate, either, but not the way you proclaim
18:40.27hyperChipmunkit's opengl without question
18:40.39kenlyricwho proclaims?
18:40.43chutwigyou?
18:40.52kenlyricnot even remotely.
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18:41.00hyperChipmunkyou; directx is a one-platform technology
18:41.09kenlyricokey dokey.
18:41.09Cryectdirectx is really only prevalant in games
18:41.17chutwig"kenlyric: opengl lives?"
18:41.20hyperChipmunknobody even acknowledges it outside windows gaming
18:41.20kenlyricand that relates to things I've said how, exactly?
18:41.40kenlyricchutwig: that doesn't mean I prefer directx.
18:41.42hyperChipmunkopengl is used pretty much everywhere else
18:41.43XuerianIt's a sad state of affairs :(
18:41.44kenlyricor even care one way or the other.
18:41.54NelsonMis there a good .NET binding for OpenGL?
18:42.01NelsonMDIrectX.NET is kind of a mess, last I looked
18:42.08chutwigmanaged directx yay
18:42.11kenlyricopengl is used on the xbox?
18:42.19Cryectno its DirectX
18:42.25kenlyricplaystation?
18:42.26Xueriankenlyric:
18:42.27Xuerian...
18:42.34CryectOpenGL on Wii and PS3
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18:42.38hyperChipmunklol DirectX for HP-UX!
18:42.40XuerianMicrosoft, use the alternative to a MS-created framework.. on it's own console?
18:42.58chutwigi know the gamecube and wii use opengl, i assume the PS3 does but i don't have anything conclusive to support that
18:43.09Cryectheh they even let you use .net XNA if you are foolish enough but they don't recommend it
18:43.14chutwigespecially given sony's proclivity towards needlessly reinventing the wheel
18:43.38kenlyricthey probably don't allow porn on their graphics libraries.
18:43.46chutwigeh?
18:43.58kenlyricsony.
18:44.03chutwigwhat
18:44.13NelsonMwhy isn't the WoW windows client also in OpenGL?
18:44.19Cryectyeah Nvidia has an OpenGL api last I heard for PS3 you can do some checking on beyond3d forums if you want to know for sure
18:44.29CryectBecause they prolly wrote the DirectX client first
18:44.35chutwigbecause they spent most of their time optimizing direct3d because they know that's what most of their player base uses, i would guess
18:44.35Cryectand wrote Opengl path later for Macs
18:44.36hyperChipmunkbecause windows's idea of opengl is stunted
18:44.40kenlyricsony, porn, reinventing the wheel.
18:44.54CryectOpenGL drivers really aren't as optimized as DirectX drivers are anymore either
18:44.58Cryectunless you write Quake
18:45.05chutwigjohn carmack does love on the opengl
18:45.06hyperChipmunkblizzard always write crossplatform
18:45.14chutwigblizzard and nobody else, pretty much
18:45.27XuerianID
18:45.38XuerianCan you say UT? :)
18:45.50chutwigepic just turn that over to another programmer to do the port
18:45.56chutwigoutside the company
18:46.00chutwigrather than simultaneous development like blizzard
18:46.04CryectiD though is kinda planning to concentrate on consoles due to PC piracy and same with Epic
18:46.21NelsonMcuz no one pirates console games
18:46.23XuerianIf they don't release ut on pc, someone is going to die >.o
18:46.32CryectNelsonM, heh less do at least
18:46.36NightHawkTheSaneHeh..
18:46.38AKXAloft is officially one of my fav addons now. <3.
18:46.40NightHawkTheSane<-- pirates console games
18:46.43kenlyricconsoles eat babies.
18:47.16kenlyricI already *have* a computer for other purposes, why can't the games just be on that?
18:47.27chutwigif i give you money will you promise not to talk
18:47.38Xueriankenlyric: Amen.
18:47.46NelsonMlast time I put a security patch on my windows box, it broke my games
18:47.47NelsonMthat's why
18:47.57kenlyricchutwig, why do you feel the need to be such a dick?
18:48.12chutwigkenlyric: because your inability to filter out salient comments from stupidity annoys me
18:48.14XuerianNelsonM: Computer ~= Windows
18:48.16kenlyricNelsonM: right, because patches to consoles never break the consoles, right?
18:48.23NelsonMfair enough
18:48.27Kaeltenkeep it civil guys
18:48.46Cryectkenlyric see what you started :-p
18:48.57NightHawkTheSaneIt stopped being civil as soon as the merits of <insert active technology> started being discussed. :P
18:49.01knarf-can't you use the multiple arguments featuer of AceComm when you are sending it over whispers?
18:49.39kenlyricmeh, i see absolutely nothing wrong wtih not wanting to have 4 different gaming platforms.
18:49.49CryectThere is nothing wrong and we've had betweeen 3 to 4 for a long time
18:49.55NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: there's nothing wrong with that desire. It's just that's demonstrably less than what the market will support.
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18:49.56kenlyricNightHawkTheSane: I never discussed the merits of one technology over another. chutwig just assumed I had, and went into a tirade.
18:49.57NelsonMyour favourite band sucks
18:49.58Cryectdevelopers will go where they want
18:50.15kenlyricNelsonM: omg, don't talk about Creed that way.
18:50.33NightHawkTheSanemy favorite band -does- suck, because they no longer exist. :(
18:50.34NelsonM:-)
18:51.25NelsonMahahah, PTR now has "New interface option: Disable Lua Errors"
18:51.30NelsonMthat's one way to fix broken addons
18:51.46NightHawkTheSaneno.. that's one way to ignore broken addons and keep users stupid and ignorant.
18:51.59NelsonMman, it's hostile day in irc!
18:52.19NelsonM(I was liking the idea they disabled errors. I suspect they mean they just disabled error *reporting*)
18:52.19kenlyricsomething simpler, like "don't completely block the screen with errors" would have been a good middle ground.
18:52.26Industrial< NelsonM> ahahah, PTR now has "New interface option: Disable Lua Errors"
18:52.28Industrialomg no really?
18:52.30Cryectyou know not one person was supporting DirectX but it sure got people riled up :-p
18:52.36kenlyricNelsonM: lol.
18:52.37Kaeltenlol
18:52.43Industrialthats so bad :(
18:52.46CryectNelsonM: thats actually a good one kinda
18:52.58IndustrialCryect: is not!
18:53.06NelsonMit's a microsoft conspiracy
18:53.07CryectNelsonM: so many ace developers forget buggrabber captured their bugs and release buggy addons
18:53.20NelsonMactually, what is the ace2 error reporting module? I've been using !Swatter
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18:53.29knarf-SendCommMessage("WHISPER", personToWhisper, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10) trying to do that tells me that it expects a string as the third argument, is what i'm doing not possible with the whisper distribution ?
18:53.36NightHawkTheSaneBugGrabber/BugSack are typically used.
18:53.38Cryectbuggrabber and bugsack
18:53.39NelsonMty
18:54.03NightHawkTheSaneReally, they should have implemented something similar instead of just "don't show me what went wrong because i'm not smart enough to handle it."
18:54.26kenlyricis that going to break bugrabber?
18:54.26Cryectmake sure to disable the stopping of recording of bugs if there is more than 20 errors a second
18:54.48Cryectits really annoying when you have something not working and can't find an error because of that
18:54.48NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: i'd imagine if the user has that setting on, buggrabber would have nothing to catch, so, not 'break' so much as 'render pointless'
18:54.52NightHawkTheSaneim just guessing, though
18:55.01kenlyricoh, i missed that it was an option.
18:55.16Cryectis it a cvar or is it a interface option
18:55.23Cryectif its interface the errors will still be triggered
18:55.40KaeltenNightHawkTheSane: it might still have have an event for it just the default ui won't report it
18:55.53NelsonMall I know is this: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/18/ptr-changes-for-may-17/
18:56.13NightHawkTheSaneKaelten: yeah, guess that's true. I haven't actually looked, like i said, just guessing.
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18:56.18NightHawkTheSanealso, god I can't type for shit today.
18:56.24Kaeltenlol
18:56.26Cryectis it children's week already?
18:56.38NightHawkTheSaneI typed that sentence like three times because i made so many mistakes. ><
18:56.56Kaeltenlmao
18:57.32Cryect"Motes of Shadow now primarily drop from void creatures and have been removed from nearly all demons."
18:57.34Cryectdamn
18:57.44Cryecttrying to make primal shadows actually rare :-p
18:57.45NightHawkTheSanedamn.
18:57.57NeoTronwhoha
18:58.26NightHawkTheSaneIt
18:58.32NightHawkTheSaneit's a good thing I've saved all my primal shadows.
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18:59.00NeoTronI have some 35 in the bank I think
18:59.05NeoTronmaybe should buy a few more stacks
18:59.05NightHawkTheSanewoah! rogue Sword spec procs -yellow- extra attacks.
18:59.08Kody-Why have none of these change recaps mentioned some of the stuff that was removed or lines modified?
18:59.15NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: what is the difference?
18:59.21Kody-Pretty sure mages would be happy to hear that the line of sight rule for arcane missles was removed
18:59.31NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: yellow attacks do not glance, have 5% miss chance, and do not reset the swing timer.
18:59.34NeoTronah
18:59.43NeoTronbut glance is reduced anyway
18:59.48NeoTronbut the miss chance is quite a difference
18:59.53NightHawkTheSaneyeah, but no glance is still better than some glance :P
19:00.03NightHawkTheSanethat's a pretty solid dps upgrade for rogues.
19:00.18NightHawkTheSanewell, sword spec rogues at leaset
19:01.22Cryect"You are now able to right click a player name to report them to GMs." thats bad hehe so many extra reportings for stuff said in General chat now
19:01.41NightHawkTheSaneCryect: yeah, you know that's going to be abused, too. ><
19:04.00NightHawkTheSaneheh.. "Soulstones: Soulstones can no longer be used on targets not in your party or raid. In addition, the soulstone buff will now be removed if the target or caster leaves the party or raid."
19:06.05harldephinthere's an ace add-on that's been updated today, repeatedly telling me 2-3 times that i'm not in a guild when i'm actually selling crap to an NPC.
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19:08.22CryectCartographer maybe?
19:08.28Cryectwell one of the modules
19:08.43CryectCartographer_Trainers updated today
19:09.12Vangualheh, with that soulstone fix there's just gonna be 15 offline warlocks in group 6-8?
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19:13.35a-stray-catdo notifications in parser-3.0 work?
19:14.16a-stray-cati did self:RegisterParserEvent({ eventType = "Notification" }, "PrintLiteral" ); and i dont seem to be getting anything :<
19:15.17harldephinin what way would Cartographer_Trainers be related to a guild membership related system message, when i'm not even talking to a trainer ?
19:15.46Cryectwho knows that was my best guess since you said addon today
19:16.08harldephin:)
19:16.18Cryecttry disabling it never know
19:16.35CryectCartographer_Vendors
19:16.36IndustrialQuestion 1: How does MrPlow know the sorting categories? PeriodicTable ?
19:16.38Cryectprolly though
19:16.47Cryectthat was updated early yesterday morning though
19:16.59Cryectwas just basing it on your time frame :-p
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19:24.32ckknighthey all
19:24.38Kemayoharldephin: ColaLight, probably.
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19:26.07ravagernlhey guys
19:26.21ckknighthey ravagernl
19:27.03ravagernlCryect: what does mode7test do? I see the second snes mariokart level as a texture in there
19:27.08ravagernlis it a minigame?
19:27.08KemayoWoo!  "Stackable items retrieved from mail will automatically stack in your inventory"
19:27.59Cryectravagernl: its a test of my mode 7 texture library
19:28.21ravagernlyes, and what is mode7lib then ??
19:28.49Cryecthttp://img151.imageshack.us/img151/856/mode7testor1.jpg
19:28.59Cryectlets you do stuff like that
19:29.15XuerianTexture rotation 3d style? :P
19:29.36NightHawkTheSaneI see where this is going... in-game mariokart competitions!
19:29.41XuerianXD
19:29.42ravagernlomg
19:29.58Cryecttry out the demo and right click lets you adjust your height
19:30.04Arrowmasteromg use the minimap textures and make a FF like world map view
19:30.30CryectI'm about to do that for a dungeon unfortunately we can't get a compiled texture of it or can we?
19:30.44Cryectdoes someone have a trick to grab the texture reference the minimap is using?
19:30.46ravagernlgive us googleazeroth please :P
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19:33.59Kaydeethreeravagernl: mapwow.dom
19:34.07Kaydeethrees/.dom/.com/
19:34.31ravagernl! lol hha
19:34.32Guillotinenymbia! just who I wanted to talk to! you work on PitBull_InteractLines, right?
19:34.47nymbiayeah
19:35.08Guillotinecould you put in a check to ignore a frame for your purposes if it is fully alpha'd out? (e.g. invisible)
19:35.21nymbiasure
19:35.30Guillotinety ^_^
19:36.18Kaydeethree... I wonder what the new SPELL_FAILED_TARGET_IS_TRIVIAL = "Can't target trivial"; error is for in GlobalStrings?
19:37.26XuerianIt means you're a blood elf.
19:37.26nymbiai think they were considering doing that a while back
19:37.27nymbiablocking attacks against low level players
19:37.38harldephinKemayo: you're right, it's ColaLight. (no rhyme intended)
19:37.40yacoobuseless fact of the day: 'ty' means 'you' in Polish
19:37.48KillmoreMode7 ? its a SNES emulator for WoW ?!
19:38.09ravagernlkillmore: >http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/856/mode7testor1.jpg
19:38.33Killmoreomg so nice :P
19:38.39trhomg.. i can only imagine a snes emulator for wow with mode7 library would be awefully slow ;)
19:39.06ravagernlan you would get a memory increase from here to tokio
19:40.05harldephinyacoob: that's not really useless :)
19:40.30yacoobbut 'useless fact of the day' is nice phrase :)
19:40.46yacoobbut seriously, what can you use it for?
19:41.20harldephine.g. for talking polish
19:41.42ravagernlUseless fact of the day: Useless facts are useless
19:41.50ravagernlbeat that :P
19:42.17Kirkburn|afkCan add the option to turn off the pink circles in Cart_Mining!? :(
19:42.22Kirkburn|afk*Can someone
19:42.28Saint-N87% of all facts are made up?
19:42.57Josh_BorkeSaint-N: 87.3% actually
19:42.58ravagernlFact: I am away in 5 seconds
19:43.16Punkie`nymbia!
19:43.17Saint-Nand the other 1/2 of facts are hyptothetical ;P
19:43.28Saint-Nspelt correctly
19:43.33Punkie`Did you look into the collapsable buttons on pt3bar? <3
19:43.53nymbianope! ;)
19:44.06Saint-Nhrm wonder if anything fun is happeneing tonight
19:44.20harldephinfun.. like what
19:46.52CIA-2303nymbia * r35806 10PitBull_InteractLines/PitBull_InteractLines.lua:
19:46.52CIA-23PitBull_InteractLines:
19:46.52CIA-23- Don't connect lines to frames with an alpha of 0 (or effective alpha of 0 in 2.1)
19:48.18Kirkburn|afkPunkie`, I would poke kergoth but he no here :(
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19:56.18fritzhi, is tehre an addon wich show/highlights quest-items when i click on a monster?
19:57.33Birdemani[FH]btw, im loving the new 1.8 WAU, really nice job on that
19:57.45fritzwahts wau? wau wau?
19:58.50Kirkburn|afk1.8?!?!
19:59.03Killmore?!?!
19:59.22Kirkburn|afkWAU, you find it down at the Lua luau
19:59.27[dRaCo]"WowAceUpater v1.8 released!! Please upgrade immediately to get important new functionality http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater"
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19:59.51Kirkburn|afk[dRaCo], you expect me to read the topic? I mean, wtf?
20:00.40kenlyricit needs a way to get updates from inside the client.
20:00.52kenlyricor, just stop yelling at me!
20:01.04Cryectthe .13 version binaries should also exist :-p
20:01.10kenlyricthat too :)
20:01.15Cryectdon't know if thats been fixed yet
20:01.44ckknightwell, time to make DogTag-1.0 even more efficient.
20:01.48kenlyricso you can go to About, which takes you to a wiki page.
20:01.52Cryectthe zip still appears to be 2205 bytes so I'm guessing no
20:02.05kenlyricthen you can go sourceforge project page and update! sweet.
20:02.26kenlyricCryect: l2compile, amirite?
20:02.26Cryectbe better if wowaceupdater use the wowace svn then it just updates itself :-p
20:02.47sbuckknight: isMounted would be great ;o
20:02.49Cryectkenlyric: apparently, too bad I'm lazy
20:03.12kenlyricin addition to opengl, something else on the list of things I had no idea still existed http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=magic/futuresight/home&dcmp=BAC-FUTRSTMINIRELSE
20:03.12ckknightsbu: oh sure
20:03.12sbumoonsorrow: uhm you did gotwood, right?
20:03.34sbuckknight: are names of all mounts in babble?
20:03.46ckknightno need
20:03.48ckknightIsMounted()
20:03.53ckknightI'll also add IsFlying()
20:04.02ckknightsbu: wait, damn, that'll only work on the player.
20:04.08ckknightsbu: do you care about other units?
20:04.23a-stray-catis there an easy way to tell if you're moving?
20:04.36ckknighta-stray-cat: yes.
20:04.49ckknighta-stray-cat: you check your position between frames and see if they're different
20:04.54sbuckknight: hmm player is pretty useless
20:04.58a-stray-catoh.
20:05.06sbuckknight: aura check :/
20:05.25ckknightsbu: alright. You do it. :-P. Just get the names of all the buffs
20:05.35ckknightif you get that to me, I'll happily put it in
20:05.35a-stray-cathey ckknight, is there a way for parser-3.0 to pick up enemy power gains?
20:05.41ckknightpower gains?
20:05.46fritzhi, is there an addon wich show/highlights quest-items when i highlight a monster?
20:05.54a-stray-catso and so gains Berserker Stance, etc
20:06.03Punkie`Is there another mod like oCD, as oCD doesn't actually work for me :(
20:06.09ckknighta-stray-cat: I'm not sure about that, I believe so
20:06.11sbuckknight: hmmm ok :o
20:06.39Josh_BorkePunkie`: i use coolDown
20:07.16a-stray-cati used RegisterParserEvent({eventType="Notification"},"PrintLiteral"); and didnt' seem to catch any gains but my own
20:07.18Punkie`Thanks Josh :)
20:07.49ckknighta-stray-cat: I really should do more work on Parser-3.0
20:12.02kenlyricwhen dreaenei dance, they should include the music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAN7Ts0xBo
20:14.36sbuckknight: uhm wait, how do you check aura stuff? is it possible to get the buff description?
20:14.54ckknightsbu: no, just name
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20:16.52Xueriankenlyric: I see new things every day. This, be one of those things.
20:17.17ckknight_blah
20:17.21ckknight_sbu: no, just the name
20:17.28Xuerianckknight_: nickserv ghost ftw.
20:17.46sbumeh ok, are all mount names in babble?
20:17.54sbusomewhere
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20:18.54nymbiasbu: why do you need 'em?
20:19.03sbunymbia: isMounted aura check
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20:19.10sbu(friendly players)
20:19.25Xueriankenlyric: You mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMs6oWDoQrY
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20:20.21ckknight_jesus...
20:20.25ckknightsbu: they should be all in Babble-2.2
20:20.27ckknightif not, they should be
20:20.44CyrezWoah, wait a sec... Was there an update to Prat so blocked whispers (SpamSentry, for example) don't trigger the sound?
20:21.02CyrezOr did I just miss hearing it?
20:21.07NightHawkTheSaneI think so Cyrez
20:21.11Cyrez<3
20:21.20NightHawkTheSanecheck the commit messages to be sure
20:21.53CyrezGot TortoiseSVN so I can just check the log. ^^
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20:23.05Kaeltenok so when should I kill wau 1.7?
20:24.05NightHawkTheSaneI'd say a week after whenever 1.8 was released, two tops.
20:25.42CyrezYep, it's not playing the sound anymore. IDK which commit did it cuz the log messages are so vague but it happened within the last day or two, I think.
20:26.16Punkie`So people, who is in an optimizing mood for me :D
20:26.17CyrezTotally silent spam blocking for the pwn.
20:26.39Punkie`I'm using the same thing over and over 4 times and I would like to only use it once for everything
20:27.34Punkie`First ever addon i made so, just learning atm :)
20:27.35Punkie`http://ace.pastey.net/34442
20:28.14sbuckknight: mhh no, no mounts in babble
20:28.22ckknighthrm
20:28.23ckknightlame
20:29.17sbuis mount item name = mount aura name?
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20:31.24ckknightI believe so
20:31.25ckknightcheck on wowhead, though
20:31.25Cryecthttp://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1127/dungeoncrawlermk5.jpg
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20:32.11XuerianCyrez: Hahaha damn, nice
20:32.27Xuerianhey woh, is that matched up to the direction you're facing? 0.o
20:32.31Gnarfozlots of very nice new concepts around here recently
20:32.37Cryecthave to prebake the maps and get the equations for each of them but it works
20:32.44Cryectyep Xuerian
20:32.53sbuckknight: hmm no
20:33.00XuerianCryect: Daymn. Carto instance integration! =O
20:33.04sbuFrostwolf Howler vs. Horn of the ...
20:33.11kergothora2 player targets dont seem to work for me anymore
20:33.12kergothhm
20:33.16CryectCartographer generates its stuff on the fly wouldn't work
20:33.25XuerianAww :(
20:33.27Xueriancool anyway :P
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20:34.22Josh_BorkeCryect: what is that shower?
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20:34.33Josh_Borkewow, you all know what i'm thinking about now...
20:34.37Josh_Borkei'll try again
20:34.38Cryectwth?
20:34.40kebinusanthat dungeon crawler thing looks cool
20:34.41Josh_BorkeCryect: what is that showing?
20:34.42XuerianXD
20:34.54Josh_Borkebesides a mod called dungeon crawler :-P
20:34.56mexicaanhi, what event can i use to dtermine when SELf joined a group or raid ?
20:34.57Josh_Borkewhat's it supposed to be d oing?
20:34.58Cryectshows using GPSLib and Mode7 to generate that Dungeon Crawler thing
20:34.58XuerianCyrez: Compare it to the minimap
20:35.04Cryectit moves and faces with the player
20:35.14ckknightmexicaan: PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED, RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE
20:35.16Xuerianer
20:35.17XuerianJosh_Borke
20:35.27XuerianCyrez: miss-ping ping
20:35.34Cryectwhen I turn it turns, when I move it moves
20:35.46Josh_Borkewhen you dip i dip we dip
20:36.04kebinusanCryect: is there something on the svn currently that does that
20:36.36Cryectno not at the moment
20:37.12CryectIts just Mode 7 Test modified with a map I grabbed from Atlas and few lines of code change
20:37.19mexicaanckknight: that also fires on alot of other events, i only want to know when player joins party/raid
20:37.26kebinusanah, well it looks cool regardless, should make a video to show it off
20:37.30ckknightmexicaan: nope.
20:37.38ckknightmexicaan: no other event.
20:38.05mexicaanckknight: how do i dtermine from that event, if SELF joins a party ?
20:38.46ckknightyou track if you were in a party before, check the event, see how many party members you have
20:39.58mexicaanckknight: hmmz ok,
20:40.04Josh_Borkemexicaan: local f = CreateFrame('Frame'); f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(frame, event, ...) if (event == "PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED") then if (UnitExists('party1')) then <in party> else <not in party> end end) f:RegisterEvent("PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED")
20:41.08kergothCryect, yes, make a video of it :)
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20:41.26a-stray-cat[Ammo]: ping
20:41.59Josh_BorkeCryect: while nifty, to what end?
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20:42.52CryectSomeone suggested it so I cooked it up real fast
20:43.02Chompershey ck
20:43.06Gnarfozcan you use /rw in 5man parties?
20:43.10ckknighthey Chompers
20:43.15Chompersthat raid bug thing, what was that about?
20:43.19Josh_BorkeGnarfoz: yes
20:43.32Chomperssome sort of new raid feature for 2.1 that didnt work in 2.0?
20:44.28sbuckknight: for aura description you need to create dummy tooltips with buffid+unit arguments? (which would be too expensive in dogtag :o)
20:44.32mexicaanJosh_Borke: Cool, thanks alot
20:44.44Josh_Borkemexicaan: that's the basics that you need
20:44.54Josh_Borkemexicaan: if you're using Ace it'll be a little different
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20:45.12sbumeh
20:45.14sbuckknight: for aura description you need to create dummy tooltips with buffid+unit arguments? (which would be too expensive in dogtag :o)
20:45.26GnarfozJosh_Borke: thx
20:45.27sbuor hardcoded babble stuff
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20:45.48ckknightsbu: UnitBuff(unit, i)
20:45.50ckknightreturns the name and such
20:46.04mexicaanJosh_Borke: Ill figure it out, thianks
20:46.05sbuyeah but only name... and description can only be read from Tooltips
20:46.23a-stray-catdon't you hate it when you can't figure out why your changes aren't working, but it turns out you forgot to save? :<
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20:47.06sbuckknight: because "Increases speed by ..%" check would be easy - but buff description stuff is too heavy for dogtag i suppose
20:47.12sbuand fix your connection :o
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20:47.32Sarozgusy, need tips for netherspite phase 2, when NOT running out
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20:47.33Sarozplx
20:47.41ckknightmust fix cord...
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20:48.01a-stray-catSaroz: run out
20:48.01Chomperswhy not run out?
20:48.10sbunot workign anymore with 2.1
20:48.13nymbiathere's a door in 2.1
20:48.17sbuSaroz: you can run out of range
20:48.17Josh_BorkeSaroz: heal
20:48.18HjalteSaroz, buff shadow prot
20:48.21a-stray-catnext patch when they disable running out, they also kill his breath
20:48.23sbuso just pull to the "door"
20:48.33Chompersbut they're changing the mechanics in 2.1 for it
20:48.35Chompersi think
20:48.36sbuand RUN :p
20:48.47sbua-stray-cat: what? kill breath?
20:48.49a-stray-catso just run out for now :p
20:48.59a-stray-cati dont think he breaths anymore in 2.1
20:49.05sbuthink or know? :P
20:49.15a-stray-catsomething was changed to make him loleasy, i hear
20:49.20sbuNetherspite will no longer cast Nether Burn while crazed.
20:49.25a-stray-catoh nevermind
20:49.27a-stray-catwrong one
20:49.33a-stray-catwell that means i can drink in a corner at least
20:50.13CIA-2303nymbia * r35807 10Quartz/Mirror/Quartz_Mirror.toc:
20:50.13CIA-23Quartz_Mirror:
20:50.13CIA-23- Add Player to X-Quartz-RequiredModules
20:50.26Stephmwany plans on disabling mages drinking in combat?
20:50.31CIA-2303archarodim * r35808 10Decursive/ (7 files):
20:50.31CIA-23Decursive:
20:50.31CIA-23- Bug fixes (Live-list and sound problems)
20:50.31CIA-23- The ID of the unit is now shown below the unit name in the live-list.
20:50.31CIA-23- Small performance improvements.
20:50.31CIA-23- Switch version to BETA 7-pub.
20:50.46a-stray-catwrite an addon to automatically put a raid icon on whoever he'st argettgeting for stage 2 ;P
20:51.04a-stray-catthen just stand in a circle around him and run away from whoever has the icon
20:51.09a-stray-catlike playing tag!
20:51.47sbuwell, as i said, you can run out of range
20:52.02sbutank him at the 'door' and run to the other side of the room
20:52.05a-stray-catthats silly then, why even add a door
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20:52.37sbubecause you can keep him in his center position + run out of the room
20:53.01a-stray-catmaybe adding a door wasn't so much to break the mechanic (which is exactly the same if you can oor the breaths)
20:53.05sbuits not that easy if you have him at the wall.. because the beams will be very close
20:53.07a-stray-catbut so they wouldn't have to fix him bugging out
20:53.25a-stray-catwhen you ran out of the room
20:53.27a-stray-catand he chased you.
20:53.53a-stray-catwe tank him right next to the door to make it easier to los him
20:54.03a-stray-cati dont think it'll be any different
20:55.35Punkie`a-stray-cat: ammo is away this weekend
20:55.56a-stray-catunfortunate ;<
20:56.03a-stray-cati figured it out anyway though :X
21:00.23a-stray-catis there any way to get GetPlayerMapPosition("player") without opening the map once?
21:01.14ArrowmasterSetMapToCurrentZone()?
21:01.27a-stray-cati shall try that, thankie
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21:08.39CryectHere's a video of dungeon crawler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRz2HlUrufw
21:09.30nevcairielwow
21:09.34nevcairielfinish that!
21:10.32Arrowmastereye of killrog?
21:10.42Cryectstealthing druid
21:10.42NightHawkTheSanestealth, i think
21:10.50NightHawkTheSanethat is neat, though
21:11.02NightHawkTheSanecan you do that for the overland map as well?
21:11.05Cryectdon't think it would work with an eye of killrog (do they move your minimap?)
21:11.12ckknightthat is pimp.
21:11.21Cryectcould but the map has to be 512x512 at max
21:11.30NightHawkTheSanehrm. :\
21:11.34Nimble_Rabbitclad|work, will tomtom every have the ability to "name" points?
21:11.39Arrowmasteri just saw the tracking on the minimap and thought it might have been sense demons
21:11.42clad|workits been requested
21:11.45clad|worknot sure when i'll add it
21:11.54clad|worki.e. /way altar of shadows
21:11.55clad|worki assume you mean?
21:12.16Nimble_Rabbityes
21:12.24Nimble_Rabbitalong with a coord of course
21:12.26clad|dinnershouldn't be too bad..
21:12.27clad|dinneraye
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21:12.50clad|dinnerit'll even save it with zone and continent.. so you could add them from anywhere
21:12.55GuillotineCryect: damn, thats awesome
21:12.55Nimble_RabbitI just added like 6 waypoints for current quests so I could do them as efficiently as possible (lightheaded owns btw)
21:12.56clad|dinneri.e. /way shatt
21:13.02Nimble_Rabbitbut when I get to them I forget what the quest was
21:13.08Nimble_Rabbit;-D
21:13.10clad|dinnerwell
21:13.13clad|dinneryou can give them descriptinos.
21:13.17clad|dinnerand if you have ligvhtheaded
21:13.18clad|dinnerit tells you
21:13.33Nimble_Rabbitwait you can give them descriptions?
21:13.35clad|dinneryes
21:13.36Nimble_Rabbit*slaps self*
21:13.41clad|dinnerwith /way 50 50 Some text here for the win
21:13.54clad|dinnerand clicking from LightHeaded adds the quest name and level as the description
21:14.05Nimble_Rabbithow do you click from lightheaded
21:14.06clad|dinnermouseover a waypoint to see the desc
21:14.23clad|dinnerany green coordinates from LightHeaded can be clicked on, and they get added to TomTom
21:14.36Nimble_Rabbitoh wow
21:14.38Nimble_Rabbitthat is very cool
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21:15.23Nimble_Rabbitgod I love your mods, every one of them is just useful and simple
21:15.50clad|dinnerhehe, thats the goal =)
21:15.57clad|dinneri want to get this next part of LIghtHeaded done
21:16.02clad|dinnerit'll be useful to plenty of people
21:16.35Nimble_Rabbitwhat part
21:16.47clad|dinneryou'll see when its implemented =)
21:17.22Nimble_Rabbit=d
21:17.50Nimble_RabbitDoes anyone know of a good quest tracker enhancement mod?  I can't seem to even move the blizzard default
21:18.00Kaydeethree<PROTECTED>
21:18.30nymbiaKaydeethree: that's not a seperate module, is it?
21:18.35Kaydeethreedon't think so
21:18.50Kaydeethreeparty3target's not inheriting setings like party1-2,4
21:19.01nymbiackknight: ^
21:19.21ckknightI blame gnomes
21:19.25CIA-2303toadkiller * r35809 10AutoBar/ (13 files):
21:19.25CIA-23AutoBar:
21:19.25CIA-23-- 2.00.00.38 beta
21:19.26CIA-23-- Fix Consumable.Weapon Buff.Stone.Sharpening Stone
21:19.26CIA-23-- Move Create Healthstone to a separate button with its own category.
21:19.26nymbiaseriously
21:19.52ckknightKaydeethree: party3target will look like party1target and such, not party1
21:20.38Kaydeethreeya, and party3target's about 3 times the size of the other party#targets. I'll post a screencap in a sec
21:21.02ckknightk
21:22.30Nimble_Rabbitsay I think something is off my screen or somewhere that I can't find it (quest tracker T_T) is there some way to fix it?
21:22.50Kaydeethreehttp://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8483/party3targetpd5.jpg
21:23.11Kaydeethreenimble; it's attached to the minimap, so if your minimap's at the bottom of the screen your questtracker will be offscreen
21:23.36SHIFT_nismo10Nimble_Rabbit:01 you could use Visor2 to move it
21:23.52Cryectdamn people using black text making me select it :-p
21:24.53CIA-2303sorren 072.1 * r35810 10SorrenTimers/ (12 files):
21:24.53CIA-23SorrenTimers:
21:24.53CIA-23- Death detection
21:24.53CIA-23- Fixed diminishing returns bar bugs
21:24.53CIA-23- Added more group options
21:25.21XuerianDammit, why is it every time I predict impending doom, nothing happens?
21:25.28a-stray-catbah
21:25.35a-stray-catwhy is this rogue following me from mushroom to mushroom
21:25.58a-stray-catwhy can't i code in peace?
21:25.58Nimble_RabbitI should try sorrentimers sometime
21:25.58Nimble_Rabbitone of the few things I'm still using a non aced addon for
21:25.58a-stray-catwhat do you use?
21:26.12Nimble_RabbitDoTimer
21:26.15a-stray-catoh
21:26.28a-stray-cati'm sure he's updating to the new api next patch too
21:26.33a-stray-catthe current sorrentimers is a mess
21:26.35CryectHow about classtimer
21:26.43a-stray-cati've been rebuilding the whole thing from scratch :<
21:26.52Nimble_RabbitOr that
21:27.19Nimble_RabbitDoTimer is brilliant but it would be a nice feeling to have one more thing ace leaving only a few loose ends
21:27.34CIA-2303nymbia * r35811 10Quartz/Mirror/Mirror.lua:
21:27.34CIA-23Quartz_Mirror:
21:27.34CIA-23- Update bars on PLAYER_ALIVE and PLAYER_UNGHOST
21:29.30Kaydeethreeweird. a UI reload fixed it.
21:29.30Kaydeethreeodd
21:29.47nymbiai blame Funkeh`
21:30.10Funkeh`sush slut
21:33.47Punkie`OMG FUNKEH` HOW COULD YOU
21:34.14Funkeh`?
21:34.28Punkie`dunno break is wow
21:34.30Punkie`his
21:34.34Punkie`omg guess what funk!
21:34.52Funkeh`?
21:35.02Punkie`?
21:35.04Punkie`anyway
21:35.09Punkie`I made my first ever mod today! :D
21:35.40nymbiaoh shit!
21:35.45nymbia~flee
21:35.53purlACTION runs away screaming
21:35.53Funkeh`what does it do
21:36.03XuerianY'all *unkie`'s are confusing
21:36.12Punkie`It is called TickToo
21:36.16Punkie`with 1 o
21:36.18Punkie`actually!
21:36.22Punkie`and it displays some values
21:36.29Punkie`and a number next to it
21:36.39Punkie`saying how many ticks of energy before it reaches that value! :D
21:37.30Punkie`however there is one problem with it
21:37.48Funkeh`Author: Punkie?
21:37.49Punkie`it uses the same thing 4 times, cause i dont really know how to make it do 4 things through 1 function
21:37.52Punkie`yup
21:38.00Punkie`i dont have SVN so i didnt make it
21:38.02Punkie`well
21:38.05Punkie`put it up
21:38.44Punkie`want to see it nymbia and Funkeh`?
21:40.22SHIFT_nismoyou guys know of a compiler or something i could test an addon without wow?
21:40.59nymbiaPunkie`: hell yeah
21:41.04CIA-2303funkydude * r35812 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: deDE Prototype enrage
21:41.41nymbiaSHIFT_nismo: there's no full emulators, since there's stuff like taint to account for, but you can test syntax wit luac -p
21:41.43Punkie`yay!
21:41.47Punkie`nymbia: http://ace.pastey.net/34442
21:42.07SHIFT_nismothanks nymbia
21:42.11a-stray-catso in an ace options table, if i have an execute where i want a confirmation box with a custom message, i just set confirm=message, right?
21:43.03harldephinsomething increases my add-ons' overall memory usage by 50 kb when i open up my inventory (OneBag) and by an additional 20 kb when i close it again. every time i do it. - any ideas to possibly reduce that ?
21:43.10Gngskis cartographer_notes required for cartographer_herbalism to show nodes on the map/minimap?
21:43.32Cryectrun garbage collect :-p
21:43.47Cryectdon't worry about the memory garbage collection will get it later
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21:45.12Punkie`nymbia: dat be sum sexy code? :D
21:45.26nymbiaPunkie`: damn right ;)
21:47.01Punkie`nymbia: any way i can do what i said?
21:47.11nymbiahuh?
21:47.15Punkie`like make all of them go through 1 instead of making loads?
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21:47.25Punkie`all the seperate updates there
21:47.57harldephini've done garbage collect every few hours since today, but now i'm doing it about every half hour, when memory usage breaches the 60-mb-barrier (it drops to about 47 mb when garbage collect finishs)
21:48.37nymbiaPunkie`: smoosh em together!
21:50.01Nimble_RabbithyperChipmunk, where be t3h official release? =P
21:50.22Stephmwok.. running vmware(for xp) & wow at the same time takes a few fps away
21:50.59Punkie`nymbia: so there isnt really a prob with em like that?
21:51.22moonsorrowckknight: all portraits in pitbull are gone for me, are they deactivated?
21:51.33ckknightmoonsorrow: turn on the Portrait module?
21:52.06moonsorrowaaah now I see the new submenu :)
21:52.25moonsorrowthought there is some other problem
21:52.47nymbiaPunkie`: shouldn't be :)
21:53.36Punkie`yay
21:53.46Punkie`does that mean im a dev now?!
21:53.52Punkie`or do i need to download DevTools
21:53.55Punkie`;D
21:54.23CIA-2303saroz * r35813 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: I must have missed the memo for .multiToggle
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21:56.37nymbiaPunkie`: lol
21:57.15Punkie`^^
21:57.18CIA-2303saroz * r35814 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: Spaces to tabs!
21:57.31Punkie`now go add condensing buttons to pt3bar so i can not use autobar kk LD
21:57.32Punkie`:D
21:57.39Punkie`oh and dreamlayout too :D
21:57.44ckknightso what separates sRF from other UFs?
21:58.05Arrowmasterit looks like ctraid?
21:58.06KemayoIt's simple!
21:58.13Kemayo(Apparently.)
21:58.29KemayoOr maybe "It's Saroz!"  Who knows?
21:58.43ckknightSaroz: hey guy
22:00.05sbuckknight: i'd say pretty much functionality on small space :o
22:00.15ckknighthrm
22:00.25ckknightI have a few questions in my mind
22:00.35sbuckknight: http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot051107193307zs5.jpg
22:00.35ckknight(1) can I somehow steal said functionality
22:00.46ckknight(2) would sRF consider using DogTag
22:00.47sbui'm trying to with that aura stuff ;o
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22:02.00ckknighthrm, I see
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22:02.35Sarozckknight, hey girl
22:02.42a-stray-catsbu: what mod is that that changes the nameplates look :O
22:02.43ckknightI have a penis
22:02.48sbua-stray-cat: aloft
22:02.53a-stray-catthankie
22:02.55Sarozwhat functionality
22:03.14sbuckknight: http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/5457/pbraidv2sfhv6.png - getting close.. but auras take to much space at the moment
22:03.18ckknightSaroz: *shrug*
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22:03.28sbuhave to put them inside - and need some 'buff until debuffed' function :/
22:03.43CIA-2303cryect * r35815 10DungeonCrawler/ (6 files in 2 dirs): DungeonCrawler: Initial Commit - Renders a map of Crypts in Pseudo 3d that moves and rotates with the player. Mainly a tech demo and reference on how to use Mode7 and GPSLib
22:03.49ckknightsbu: you see the recent changes I did with text positioning and such?
22:04.00Sarozckknight, considered dogtag, don't see the need tbh
22:04.05ckknightSaroz: alright
22:04.10sbuckknight: have been busy last days ;o
22:04.17ckknightSaroz: still need to convince ag to switch to it
22:04.24ArrowmasterCryect: only works with one instance?
22:04.30CryectYeah its a demo
22:04.37Cryectit has to be calibrated for every instance etc
22:04.38sbuckknight: i hacked up ABF to get names outside
22:04.39Sarozckknight, yea, it's very usefull for unit frames
22:04.55ckknightsbu: yea, well, now you can position the texts wherever
22:05.00sbuoh ok
22:05.12sbuso i can use ABF?
22:05.44ckknightpotentially
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22:06.02CIA-2303saroz * r35816 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesOptions.lua: sRaidFrames: Syntax error, don't look
22:06.05CryectArrowmaster: If someone wants to implement it into a real addon they can go ahead, basically would need map images of everything (could steal from atlas or make your own), calibrate them all, and add code for detecting what instance you are in
22:06.10ArrowmasterCryect: will there be future functionality to make the display more 3d, like multiple textures on different levels
22:06.34sbuckknight: mh ok, but i think its better to use some custom layout because of changed defaults
22:06.35CryectArrowmaster: Just layer Mode7 Textures they should support alpha
22:06.58ckknightsbu: the layout system will basically be destroyed eventually as ABF swallows all other layouts
22:07.13ckknightsbu: and then a new layout system would be built on top of that which just dictates settings
22:07.14ArrowmasterCryect: ok im going to have to look at this more then
22:07.44SarozWhat does ABF stand for!?=!=!=!=!
22:08.13sbuckknight: so layout is going to be 'set of settings'? ;o
22:08.20ckknightdefault settings
22:08.22ckknighteventually
22:08.26sbumh i see
22:08.28ckknightso like, where the name is positioned
22:08.31ckknightit'll be a lot cleaner
22:08.35ckknighteasier to make
22:08.40ckknightbut that's later
22:08.43ckknightat least a few weeks
22:08.49SarozI don't understand meta tables
22:08.50Saroz:|
22:09.09ckknightI do
22:09.14Sarozgratzzz
22:09.50CIA-2303cryect * r35817 10DungeonCrawler/: DungeonCrawler - Externals Added
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22:10.55sbuckknight: well is aura position inside health/powerbar possible yet?
22:11.01ckknightnot yet.
22:11.03ckknightit will be.
22:11.13Nimble_RabbitHmm, is the forum the best place to post addon ideas/requests?
22:11.23SHIFT_nismo10Nimble_Rabbit01: yes
22:11.36sdoubledoes aguf have the same configuration mode as pitbull?  because I've never seen it before and it's damn sexy.
22:11.40Nimble_Rabbitk, to the forums I go
22:11.55Stephmwsdouble: easy there, ckknight will think your hitting on him
22:12.01sdoubleit's true
22:12.02Stephmw*you're
22:12.02SarozI'm still using ag_uf
22:12.09sdoubleheh
22:12.16sdoubleI'm very pleased with pitbull
22:12.20Nimble_RabbitI switched to pitbull
22:12.24ckknightSaroz: blah.
22:12.30Nimble_Rabbitit was really annoying at first because Aura's were acting funky
22:12.31SarozI know I know
22:12.32Nimble_Rabbitbut now I love it
22:12.34ckknightsdouble: agUF does not have a configMode
22:12.43ckknightSaroz: have you tried it, at least?
22:12.56SHIFT_nismoWhat makes pitbull > agUF?
22:12.58sdoubleI finally tried it out today and I love it.  I didn't think so, that configuration mode sold me on it.
22:12.58Saroznot yet no
22:13.18ckknightSHIFT_nismo: modularity more than anything, from a developer's standpoint. Aside from that, there's more configurability
22:13.19Nimble_Rabbitckknight, why do aura's start with a green border?  It's really ugly and made me cringe
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22:13.28ckknightNimble_Rabbit: someone added it.
22:13.32Sarozlol
22:13.36ckknightNimble_Rabbit: there really should be a way to turn that off...
22:13.41Nimble_Rabbitplease
22:13.46ckknightNimble_Rabbit: would you mind putting it on the wish list?
22:13.52nevcairieli dont have a green border around my auras
22:13.55Brunerswhat happend to spamsentry ?
22:13.58sdoubleif someone put so much work simply into a configuration mode, the rest of it has to be well put together.  endkissasshere  =P
22:14.03XuerianThat's cause you're special nevcairiel
22:14.15ckknightsdouble: it was a bitch to get it working properly :-P
22:14.16nevcairiel:D
22:14.28Sarozspamsentry GM reporting wont work in 2.1, will still block spam though
22:14.31ckknightnevcairiel: likely cause you updated before I fixed it
22:14.37ckknightSaroz: wrong, it can still report
22:14.42ckknightSaroz: just a different mechanism
22:14.43Sarozthought it was protected?
22:14.50nevcairielckknight: what do i know, i updated like 2 hours ago or so
22:15.05ckknightoh
22:15.07ckknightI dunno, then
22:15.14Nimble_Rabbitckknight, actually you can turn the border off I believe.  I just don't think it should start enabled and if it has to at least make it black or something instead of green.
22:15.16ckknightSaroz: not sure.
22:15.25ckknightNimble_Rabbit: add it to the wishlist.
22:15.33Nimble_Rabbitk
22:15.33nevcairieli have aura highlighting off
22:15.34ckknightNimble_Rabbit: it's on the PitBull wiki
22:15.36nevcairielguess thats it
22:15.43ckknightnevcairiel: oh, yea, that'd do it
22:15.47ckknightNimble_Rabbit: turn off aura highlighting.
22:15.54SarozI guess I should replace ag_uf with pitbull
22:15.56ckknightdon't add to the wishlist
22:15.57Sarozhrrm
22:16.06ckknightSaroz: at least try it out. If you don't like it, no biggie
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22:17.00Saroznot much is happening to ag_uf atm :|
22:17.02BrunersSaroz: its not working here at all
22:17.07Sarozwhat is?
22:17.14Sarozisnt
22:17.31BrunersSpamsentry
22:17.35Sarozworks fine here
22:17.36Sarozftw
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22:18.52NeoTronugh. a principal player's account has been compromised
22:19.00NeoTronwhat's worse, it was the account with the guild bank
22:19.18Xuerian0.o;
22:19.23nevcairielthat sucks
22:19.27Sarozwe had a priest getting hacked today, sucks
22:19.29Punkie`Who do I ask for SVN access btw?
22:19.42Cryectread the wowace site
22:20.37Kaeltenpunkie eventually I'll get the request and approve or deny it but go through the steps in the wiki under svn_rules
22:20.44Punkie`oki doke
22:21.02Kaeltenhey guys anyone have experiance with unicode regex?
22:21.19NeoTronI hope it's a normal hacking job vs insider job from disgruntled ex-CL paladin... I doubt he'd sink that low though
22:22.48Nimble_Rabbitwell I put my request in the forum, hopefully addon creators actually look there =D
22:23.51XuerianUnicode regex? 0.o;
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22:24.27Kaeltenhrm seems python has a unicode flag
22:24.43XuerianAnd it acts different than [normal] regex?
22:24.50XuerianOr just accounts for unicode chars?
22:25.05Kaeltenaccounting for unicode chars
22:25.16Kaeltenso \w includes unicode chars for the various locales
22:25.22XuerianAhh
22:25.31XuerianSomething for /files?
22:31.05CIA-2303nymbia * r35818 10ArenaPointer/ (ArenaPointer.lua ArenaPointer.toc libs/):
22:31.05CIA-23ArenaPointer:
22:31.05CIA-23- No reason to load up an assload of libraries if we're only using two; use the Glory function if it's available, otherwise use a local one.
22:31.54Punkie`Thanks Kaelten, e-mail set :)
22:32.45Kaelten:)
22:40.44Sarozhrrrm
22:40.44SarozQuote from: Eyonix
22:40.44SarozTseric is now pursuing other opportunities and we wish him the best in his future endeavors.
22:40.57XuerianOld news :p
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22:42.03NightHawkTheSaneSaroz: that's so yesterday.
22:42.09nevcairieltoo bad tho
22:42.15nevcairielthe thread was fun :P
22:42.28nevcairielfinally a CM saying what had to be said
22:42.29harldephinwould an add-on be able to switch mouse buttons somehow ?
22:43.54nymbiaharldephin: probably partially but not completely
22:44.04knarf-What did tseric say?
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22:45.33Saroznevcairiel gief link
22:47.26nevcairielhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/102816485.htm
22:47.50StephmwInterface\AddOns\PitBull\Portrait\Portrait.lua:93: unexpected symbol near '<'
22:47.58nevcairielthe original thread was deleted from the forums
22:48.49harldephink. never mind the mouse button switching. i just raised FishingAce's ACTIONDOUBLEWAIT to 5
22:50.45CIA-2303archarodim * r35819 10Decursive/ (8 files):
22:50.45CIA-23Decursive:
22:50.45CIA-23- Added "Major Dreamless Sleep" to skip list, translation is needed for all localization, except frFR.
22:51.01KemayoStephmw: What revision of PitBull are you using?  There's no < on line 93 in my just-updated svn copy...
22:51.34StephmwKemayo: stale copy, I've reverted the whole lot, no errors :)
22:51.56nymbiaStephmw: the < is probably from a conflicted state file
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22:52.57Kemayockknight: Nice idea on the "none" fallback, by the way.
22:53.03Stephmwdoes svn have a recursive revert modifier? on the CLI I mean
22:53.12ckknightKemayo: :-)
22:53.15nymbiasvn revert .
22:53.16nymbiashould do it
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22:57.05NightHawkTheSaneyou know, the guy who came up with "the customers are always right" should be shot.
22:58.12Sarozso true
22:58.32Saroz"Willingness to work long hours, nights, weekends, and holidays, and be available on call"
22:58.33Sarozheh
22:58.35Sarozhttp://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/pr-online-community-rep.shtml
22:59.28Arrowmasterjust read tseric's comments in that thread, looked like nobody got his point about people on the forums being complete asshats to each other too
22:59.39Sarozyea
22:59.45KaeltenPunkie`: sent your pass
22:59.51vodrinhe kinda went about it wrong though =x
22:59.56SarozYou've backpeddled into the troll excuse. You have no point. You have no meaning. You have no significance.
22:59.56SarozYou will be forgotten.
22:59.56SarozGodspeed.
22:59.57Sarozwin
23:00.15Nimble_RabbitTseric said quite a few things before he left
23:00.18Nimble_Rabbitthat were just awesome
23:00.30Sarozhehe true
23:00.34Kaeltendid I miss something?
23:00.40Nimble_Rabbit"It was an inside joke.  You aren't inside, stop thinking you are."
23:00.41vodrinyeah he did pwnsauce the forum
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23:00.58Punkie`Oh, thanks a lot Kaelten :)
23:00.59NightHawkTheSanevodrin: the only thing he did wrong is not use enough bans.
23:00.59vodrinbut wasn't very 'professional' ;p
23:01.01Stephmwis that post still up?
23:01.04vodrinindeed
23:01.06Sarozhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/102816485.htm
23:01.10vodrinthey need a 'nazi mod'
23:01.21NightHawkTheSaneall the mods should be nazi mods.
23:01.24SarozThere is only slow degredation.
23:01.24SarozTake note. It is the first and only time you'll see someone in my position make that position.
23:01.24SarozYou can be me when I'm gone.
23:01.25Sarozhehe
23:01.52NightHawkTheSanehell, EJ is as popular as it is because of the relative strictness of moderation
23:01.56Sarozsounds like he already handed in his resignation
23:02.02Nimble_Rabbit*psst* I made an awesome mod request, go look at it *psst*
23:04.29Bam__what's with the "teaser" on Blizzard's site? They have something new coming out?
23:04.42Nimble_Rabbityes
23:04.45nymbiayup
23:05.17nymbiaannouncement's.. tonight or tomorrow?
23:05.17Bam__do we have an idea what it could be?
23:05.34NightHawkTheSaneBam__: have you been living under a rock for like, the last month? :P
23:05.40Diaotomorrow
23:05.40Diaomay 19th
23:05.46Diaoeveryone's speculating sc2/sc mmo
23:05.46Bam__NightHawkTheSane: no
23:05.52Bam__I just dont visit the official site much from the front page
23:06.27Bam__Diao: ok so not anything to do with wow?
23:06.59NightHawkTheSaneBam__: no one knows what they're announcing
23:07.11NightHawkTheSaneit's guessed that it's starcraft related, as it's being announced at a SC event in korea (where SC is like a way of life), but nothing certain
23:07.22Bam__ok
23:07.34NeoTronwait tseric is gone?
23:07.41Bam__I've never played other Blizz games.. so dunno them
23:07.52NightHawkTheSaneBam__: you should, they're all good.
23:08.06ckknightNeoTron: yep.
23:08.19NeoTrondarn
23:08.26abyssichateI somehow hope it's Diablo 3
23:08.27Bam__NightHawkTheSane: I only like MMO's really... do they have other MMO's than wow?
23:08.28NeoTronhe was the only CM that had some guts
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23:08.53NightHawkTheSaneBam__: no, not really.
23:09.03Bam__but maybe soon... :P
23:09.31Nimble_Rabbitabyssichate, while I doubt it, I too hope
23:09.34NightHawkTheSanei doubt they'll announce another MMO very soon. wow is still pretty strong
23:09.44Diaohm
23:09.48Diaoit should be announced pretty soon
23:09.52Diaoit's 8am on may 19 in korea now
23:10.21abyssichateIt should be announced at 7am CET
23:10.22Bam__that reminds me.. have you experience many players you know either stop playing or taking an extended break lately?
23:10.24abyssichateif I recall correctly
23:10.36Nimble_RabbitBam__: nope not relaly
23:10.37Nimble_Rabbitreally*
23:10.52Bam__ok.. my guild's hurt pretty badly by that lately
23:11.03Wogroiplactually some players that left  our server some time ago are coming back now
23:11.09Bam__seems like a lot have gotten enough
23:11.23Nimble_Rabbitwoah you've never played starcraft
23:11.25Nimble_Rabbit!
23:11.34Bam__just wondered if it was general
23:11.56NeoTronI suspect: SC2 followed later by a SC MMO
23:11.57Sarozdoes sproket still work
23:12.00NeoTronbut that's just me
23:12.17Nimble_RabbitI doubt it neotron
23:12.25NeoTronthey are hiring ppl for MMO development
23:12.38Nimble_RabbitThey also said they want to keep creating morw WoW expansions
23:12.47NeoTronnot mutually exclusive
23:12.57NeoTronEQ is still running
23:12.57Sarozman, I havnt killed 1 boss in SSC yet, no more expansions
23:12.59Sarozno more content
23:13.03Sarozgive fixes
23:13.03Nimble_Rabbitno not mutually exclusive
23:13.06NeoTrondoesn't mean they aren't working on EQ2 or heck still expanding EQ
23:13.06Nimble_Rabbitbut it's a business
23:13.11ckknightI'm still guessing MMOFPS
23:13.18Diaohow would a mmofps work exactly lol
23:13.23Diaojust run around killing each other?
23:13.23Nimble_Rabbitplanetside
23:13.43abyssichatenothing can get suckier than a MMOFPS in my opinion
23:13.47NeoTronTabula Rasa
23:13.49Bam__space expansion in SWG
23:13.55Nimble_Rabbitckknight: I think if they do make an mmo it will be something like that too.  They wouldn't compete with their own product at it's height of activity
23:14.02NeoTronJTL was really fun
23:14.06Diaowell they already said
23:14.09ckknightright, it will not be a WoW clone
23:14.10Diaothey're not making another wow-style game
23:14.18NeoTronuntil I realized that PvP sucked (die way too fricking easy) and there was no PvE content at max level
23:14.22Bam__yea I liked it.. I just felt it was too detached from the rest of the game sort of
23:16.09Diaothey want a "next-gen" mmo
23:16.09NeoTronand technical difficulties making hitting anything impossible
23:16.09ckknightright, Diao
23:16.09NeoTronNimble_Rabbit: do you think a new MMO would be released any time soon?
23:16.09Bam__anyone tried Vanguard?
23:16.09NeoTronthis probably will be SC2 based on the venue they choose to show it..
23:16.10Nimble_Rabbityeah Bam__
23:16.10Nimble_Rabbitit was terrible
23:16.10Bam__oh
23:16.10Bam__seemed promising
23:16.10Diaommo fps/rts/rpg all in one!
23:16.10NeoTronit's what you call a clusterfuck
23:16.10NightHawkTheSaneDiao: actually, properly done, that could be really really good.
23:16.14Bam__I got invite to beta test... but then I had switched to Mac so didnt bother
23:16.20knarf-Anyone tried the Half-life 1 mod : Natural-Selection, now that was cool :>
23:16.27Diaoyea i played NS
23:16.30NeoTronI love EU CM's
23:16.37NeoTron"Remember, be constructive. No one wants to listen to a QQ, except maybe the people who make tissues."
23:17.08sbuD3 and SC2 *pray*
23:17.11Nimble_RabbitWoW, like all blizzard's games, is just so streamlined.  Vanguard wasn't.
23:17.31vodrinwhats happening with vanguard anyway
23:17.41Bam__I liked their visions a lot... they really planned for many features
23:17.43vodrindidn't the dev team get made redudant
23:17.45Bam__too many perhaps
23:18.10abyssichateAlso, we have a very strong connection with the characters and settings of StarCraft, and we do plan to revisit that universe at some point in the future, but we don't have anything new to announce in that regard at present.
23:18.33abyssichateThat makes me think it won't be starcraft-related game; but on the other hand, what else could it be since they are announcing it in Korea?
23:18.38Bam__maybe it's the wow-complex.. no MMO can really compete with it's success
23:18.53hyperChipmunkyea right
23:18.53vodrinits so going to be SC, its just if its plain new rts or something special
23:18.55abyssichateI wish it was diablo3 :(
23:19.03sbuor some MMORTS ;o
23:19.06hyperChipmunkthey got their hands in the cookie jar
23:19.10hyperChipmunkit ain't coming out
23:19.19Nimble_Rabbitjust because it's in korea does not mean it's starcraft
23:19.20vodrinindeed, no idea how an mmorts would work but sounds good!
23:19.21Sarozdoes sproket still work?
23:19.30Diaodiablo3 is impossible
23:19.34sbuDiao: why?
23:19.37Diaothe team that made diablo 1/2 left blizzard
23:19.38|Pixel|why ?
23:19.42Diaoblizz north
23:19.43sbuo?
23:19.46Diaoa long time ago
23:19.46sbuerrr so?
23:19.48Diaothey're making another game
23:19.48Nimble_RabbitThey can get new people
23:19.50Diaocalled hellgate london
23:19.51|Pixel|bwahahaha, so what ? :)
23:19.56Diaowhich is basically a diablo type game
23:20.04Diaoumm
23:20.07hyperChipmunkif theey do a Shattered-Galaxies-style mmorts in the starcraft universe with the innovation and quality they bring to the table, that would be friggin great
23:20.11Diaothe entire design/dev/etc team left blizzard
23:20.14Nimble_RabbitAny game designer can take a game as simple yet great as diablo and build off it
23:20.15Diao:p
23:20.16nymbiawell, they still got all the copyrights on diablo; they mighta stuck the warcraft 3 team on it
23:20.28Diaohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellgate:_London
23:20.37Diaothe people who basically created diablo
23:20.37Diaoleft
23:20.40Bam__I dream of playing SWG again.. in a version that actually works :D
23:21.11NeoTronimagine SWG had been balanced and had had wow-style content
23:21.14NightHawkTheSaneDiao: i don't think diablo is so special and unique that ONLY the original dev team is capable of creating a sequel to it :P
23:21.15NeoTronquests, raids, dungeons
23:21.33Bam__yea and wow-style stability
23:21.44sbuhmm 25mb prepatch
23:22.09DiaoThe resignations were partly due to a conflict with Blizzard Entertainment's owner, Vivendi, and partly due to employees wishing to start something new. Back at Blizzard North, however, they would have a common effect; of the two unannounced games that were in production at the time, one was now forced to be canceled. Blizzard Entertainment has since said the canceled game was a "Blizzard North kind of game". Since Blizzard's acquisition of Con
23:22.38nymbiaso basically, a diablo game
23:22.44nymbiagood to know
23:22.47Nimble_RabbitA lot of them actually did go on and create a game
23:22.51Nimble_Rabbitit failed
23:22.55Nimble_RabbitI remember reading about that
23:23.42sbuewww
23:23.44sbu* Felguard: This pet will periodically check to see if you know the talent which allows you to summon it, and die if you do not know the talent. <-- wtf?
23:24.04NeoTronsbu: felguard without demonolog talents is useless anyway
23:24.07NeoTronwhy is that an issue?
23:24.11sheepspeople currently keep the  felguard if you respec
23:24.13sbuohhh right
23:24.20sbufelguard... my bad :o
23:24.25vodrinits not exactly 'useless'
23:24.33sheepsso if you keep it alive you can benefit greatly
23:24.33NeoTronvodrin: he is. runs out of mana really fast
23:24.44NeoTronafter a fight or two he's OOM
23:24.53vodrinfor pvp thats not an issue =p
23:24.59NeoTronI tried it, it wasn't very exciting
23:25.01vodrinanyone saying its a bad change is silly though
23:25.05NeoTrondies easily too
23:25.07NeoTronright
23:25.22Nimble_Rabbitwait what's the argument here, are you against them making it not work?
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23:25.39kebinusanWhat an amazing troll if only it were true: - Players with the Cloak of Shadows buff will no longer have an increased chance to resist the spells Death Coil, Frost Nova, and Psychic Scream.
23:27.07NightHawkTheSanekebinusan: lol, that just screams of "wah wah i suck, i need my noobcoil"
23:27.11Arrowmastertheres currently lots of 'exploits' with warlock respecing, im perty sure you can spec master demonologist summon an imp, phaseshift it and turn off firebolt autocast so even pressing attack wont let it unshift, respec and keep the master demonology buff forever
23:27.38kebinusanyeah, there are a few things like that most of which are finally being fixed
23:27.40vodrinlose it on zone ?
23:27.59kebinusanthe dark pacting during the pet scaling was one I'll miss
23:28.01Arrowmasterits a buff on the pet when you summon it
23:28.15Arrowmasterwont go away till the pet dies
23:28.24kebinusanIf I die with an imp out, the imp didnt die, so he keeps all his buffs
23:28.36kebinusanalot of times you resummon a lock pet it'll still be feared or frostnova'd
23:28.46Arrowmasteror banished......
23:28.50Arrowmastersoo annoying
23:28.51kebinusanyeah -_-
23:29.09Arrowmasterand phaseshifted imps only take enviromental damage
23:29.31Arrowmasterso stay away from lava and it will never die
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23:30.25vodrinit makes me smile though when i get a nightfall
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23:30.36vodrinfrom dots on a hunters pet resing at gy
23:30.57Arrowmasterperfectly timed SoC's on hunter pets are the best
23:31.08Arrowmasterit goes off when they res
23:31.58Arrowmasteror perfectly timed SoC's at the end of a battleground and you see the person immediatly disappear from clicking leave battleground
23:32.29Heriocommand??
23:32.40Arrowmasterseed of corruption
23:32.45Heriooh
23:32.58Heriomeh
23:33.10Heriopretty sure everything is cleansed when you leave a BG
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23:36.29kebinusanThis would be my wishlist 2.1 changes: Stuns now break on damage, clos doesnt increase resistances for CC effects and blind now shares a DR with sap
23:36.40Bam__if everything is external
23:36.44NightHawkTheSaneSHIFT_nismo: do you mean distributed version control?
23:37.07Nimble_Rabbitkebinusan: qq
23:37.16SHIFT_nismoFor example my addons directory contains both svn checkouts and custom files
23:37.24SHIFT_nismoi would like to create a repo of my addons directory
23:37.32Heriokebinusan: clos?
23:37.47Nimble_Rabbitcloak of shadows
23:37.51Bam__just make an ordinary repository and create dirs with externals?
23:38.07Heriogod
23:38.09Bam__that's basically what I've done
23:38.18Heriothat doesn't make any sense
23:38.34Birdemani[FH]just an FYI: who ever uploaded 1.18.13 of the WAU bin.zip...there isnt a program in that file
23:38.59SHIFT_nismosvn:externals ?
23:39.53SHIFT_nismoThanks for your help Bam_ i understand it now
23:40.04Bam__no wait I don't have them as externals.... I just have a client where the root is in my own repository and an Ace dir that checks out from svn.wowace.com
23:40.22CIA-2303evilelvis * r35820 10eePanels/localization.deDE.lua: eePanels - added German localization provided by Christian Diehl
23:40.36Bam__the thing is that --ignore-externals is not a very precise option
23:40.46Bam__it ignores all externals
23:43.01sbuneed elkano :o
23:44.39vodrinsomeone fix 1.18.13 wau bin file :<
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23:49.25Bam__~wb
23:49.46purlIt's great to be back!
23:49.46cladhairesheeps: you can't assume anything about how addons are using the event
23:49.52Bam__:D
23:50.10sheepsI wasn't talking about making it happen for everyone, just seeing if it made a difference on my machine
23:50.28CIA-2303ckknight * r35821 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
23:50.28CIA-23DogTag-1.0 - now caches resuts inside tag sequences, so that sequences such as
23:50.28CIA-23[IsFriend?blah] [~ IsFriend?blah] only run the code for IsFriend once, every
23:50.28CIA-23time uses the saved variable before that. This should provide a nice speedup.
23:50.35ckknightwoo
23:50.37cladhaireokay, that makes more sense
23:51.01sheepsunit_inventory_changed requires mods that want to know if something is equipped to scan all paper doll slots
23:51.04ckknightI'm not sure how to optimize DogTag-1.0 more now...
23:51.12hyperChipmunkyou're not my friend
23:51.37ckknight[IsFriend] says you are
23:51.44ckknightguess what I'm gonna believe.
23:51.47CIA-2303punkie * r35822 10TickTo/: TickTo: creating folder
23:52.06Bam__sheeps: what about non-Ace addons?
23:52.11Herioyou wrote that, didn't you
23:52.27HerioI'm gonna say that that's not a vaild proof a friendship in that case =P
23:52.41hyperChipmunkit's okay
23:52.43ckknight[IsFriend#Herio]
23:52.45hyperChipmunki'm not his friend neither!
23:52.51ckknightlol
23:53.03Herio#? >.<
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23:54.33Heriooic
23:54.39Heriothat's pretty new, then?
23:56.32CryectHjalte: If you zone into any isntance you should see it
23:56.47CryectHjalte: Since about all instances are centered around 0,0 (except those with ADT's
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