| 00:00.28 | aen` | i remember when redhat was all the rage |
| 00:00.47 | pdpi | hehe |
| 00:00.49 | Arrowmaster | hell i heard about 4.0 and didnt even realize there was a 3.1 until i heard the release codename |
| 00:01.08 | NightHawkTheSane | I remember taking SysAdmin classes and having to use redhat boxes. That gave me endless headaches |
| 00:01.09 | pdpi | I went from being a slackware fanboy to being a debian fanboy |
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| 00:01.19 | pdpi | the .rps thing never really worked for me |
| 00:01.24 | pdpi | .deb is much superior |
| 00:02.49 | Thrae | I'm beginning to like Ubuntu. It has a saner release system then Debian, which it's based off of. |
| 00:03.15 | pdpi | aye |
| 00:03.55 | aen` | is there an autobuff for TBC? |
| 00:04.19 | Arrowmaster | i dont really care about official releases, would much rather just have uptodate .debs |
| 00:04.52 | pdpi | there are uptodate debs, usually |
| 00:05.03 | pdpi | if you just set debian to unstable (or is it testing?) |
| 00:05.36 | Arrowmaster | i used to use testing on my server |
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| 00:05.43 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Debian and Ubuntu have different requirements for when they send a .deb to "testing". For instance, months after Firefox 2.0 was released, Debian still had it under "unstable" due to its very strict testing procedure. Ubuntu had it under "testing". |
| 00:05.56 | pdpi | yeah |
| 00:06.16 | pdpi | does anyone know a lighter replacement for prat? |
| 00:06.21 | Thrae | Debian is overkill unless you're making an important server. |
| 00:06.50 | Arrowmaster | debian'ish distros are the only ones i can stand though |
| 00:06.53 | Diao | you trade off memory usage for functionality |
| 00:07.07 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Ubuntu IS a Debian-based distro |
| 00:07.11 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 00:07.18 | Arrowmaster | thats the only reason i tried it |
| 00:07.21 | Thrae | Well then yeah, I feel the same way |
| 00:07.44 | pdpi | I'm ok with slackware too |
| 00:08.26 | Arrowmaster | does slack use rpm's? |
| 00:08.31 | pdpi | nope |
| 00:08.37 | pdpi | plain tarballs |
| 00:08.55 | Thrae | Slack has an install script you can run, though. |
| 00:09.09 | pdpi | yeah |
| 00:09.10 | Thrae | Removing stuff is a pain...but you can get Slackware very, very tiny |
| 00:09.35 | pdpi | slack is good if you're not afraid to get your hands dirty |
| 00:10.43 | pdpi | if you're ok with that, it's the distro where you can just get things done the easiest, without breaking any silly stuff the GUI apps might need to work their magic in the .confs |
| 00:11.29 | Arrowmaster | i just wouldnt want to keep a system with lots of stuff installed uptodate with just tarballs |
| 00:11.41 | Thrae | Eh, I'd rather just use a package-based distro. I've been admin'ing with Debian-based distros and Slackware, and I find Debian far easier to manage with my home servers and workstations. |
| 00:12.48 | Thrae | I retired a Slackware and FreeBSD system because they were both a pain in the ass for most of my tasks. |
| 00:13.02 | Bruners | what do gentoo use? |
| 00:13.24 | dodgizzla | gentoo "emerges" iirc, that is builts everything from scratch |
| 00:13.27 | Thrae | Gentoo uses "emerge", another package management system, but it's more complex. |
| 00:13.30 | dodgizzla | though I heard of prebuilt binaries |
| 00:14.18 | pdpi | gentoo does have prebuilt binaries, but it's mostly a distro around compiling stuff you install with the exact feature set needed |
| 00:15.09 | pdpi | which is, of course, great if your requirements don't change much, but crap if you're the sort of person that will, in 2 months, think "damn, I should've compiled KDE with shell integration for DVD writers" |
| 00:15.36 | Thrae | Gentoo is again overkill. The gentootakus show excellent numbers for their weeks, months, years of tweaking, but overall for 99% of users it doesn't matter except for bragging rights. |
| 00:15.42 | _neuron_ | gentoo binaries = mostly for people setting up a new system (and upgrading from source after that), or people building their own binaries to use for different computers |
| 00:16.07 | _neuron_ | imo gentoo = by developers for developers, when I need package X built with Y flags for 32bit on a 64bit system gentoo is damn handy, other than that I wouldn't be using it ;) |
| 00:16.35 | dodgizzla | I'd just apt-get source foo and debuild it :P |
| 00:17.07 | _neuron_ | dodgizzla, well gentoo's 32bit libs are extremely good, and everyone else have been lagging behind on that |
| 00:17.40 | dodgizzla | yeah I remember ending up with 32bit on my 64bit server because Debian unstable just would not run :D |
| 00:17.44 | _neuron_ | (when on a 64bit install that is, which again, most users wouldn't need) |
| 00:17.46 | dodgizzla | Ah, who the heck needs 64bit anyway :> |
| 00:17.55 | _neuron_ | as a developer I did, although I dont atm ;) |
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| 00:18.07 | dodgizzla | developers developers developers eh :> |
| 00:18.11 | _neuron_ | haha |
| 00:18.12 | Arrowmaster | people in the year 2039 |
| 00:18.50 | pdpi | people who want sane support for more than 4 gigs of ram |
| 00:19.02 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:19.06 | pdpi | and who want to actually access the last bit of their 4 gigs without any issues |
| 00:19.11 | pdpi | hullo |
| 00:19.30 | _neuron_ | pdpi, and people who want to make their software support and be optimized for 64bit ;) |
| 00:19.31 | _neuron_ | lo ckknight |
| 00:19.43 | ckknight | gonna take a shower |
| 00:19.46 | Bruners | morning ckknight |
| 00:19.54 | CAL|Smeltn | question |
| 00:19.58 | ckknight | Bruners: not morning. post-work time |
| 00:20.09 | Arrowmaster | ~ugt |
| 00:20.26 | purl | ugt is probably Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 00:20.26 | Bruners | ckknight: didnt you just wake up ? |
| 00:20.26 | dodgizzla | BTW, here's a nifty idea for all those addon geniuses around here :D |
| 00:20.26 | CAL|Smeltn | isnt there a mod that stops you from putting rejuv on something that already has it? |
| 00:20.26 | ckknight | no |
| 00:20.28 | Bruners | ckknight: or you are just tired :) |
| 00:20.31 | ckknight | Bruners: I got back from work |
| 00:20.37 | dodgizzla | I'd like to broadcast some kind of cooldown to the raid, but not "1 - 2 - 3 - go" |
| 00:20.39 | ckknight | manual labor makes one tired |
| 00:20.47 | pdpi | that too, 64 bit ops are nice for bignum libs |
| 00:20.49 | dodgizzla | More something with sound and big flashy icons on everybodys screen |
| 00:21.07 | pdpi | (and I'm even into numerical analysis, ergo I'm one fo the few people who actually give a damn about 64 bits) |
| 00:21.16 | Bruners | dodgizzla: /rw 1 - 2 - 4 |
| 00:21.23 | dodgizzla | Bruners: Too easy |
| 00:21.23 | Arrowmaster | dodgizzla: /bwcb |
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| 00:21.39 | dodgizzla | Nah, bigger and more flashy |
| 00:21.43 | Thrae | CAL|Smeltn: Not progmatically no, that's impossible. It would have to be a button with a unit tied to it, or give you the cursor. |
| 00:22.10 | dodgizzla | I'm thinking of giant numbers flashing on the screen, or maybe some kanji or stuff like that |
| 00:22.25 | dodgizzla | Raiding is serious business you know :D |
| 00:22.32 | Arrowmaster | sounds like something DBM would do |
| 00:22.46 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: give me some cool images of 5-4-3-2-1 and I'll whip it up |
| 00:22.46 | dodgizzla | I liked that aggro notification from La Vendetta |
| 00:22.53 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: BanzaiAlert |
| 00:22.59 | vhaarr | + aUF_Banzai or PitBull_Banzai |
| 00:23.26 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: http://sp.cis.iwate-u.ac.jp/sp/lesson/j/doc/numbers.html <- those Kanji e.g. :D |
| 00:23.28 | Arrowmaster | i would renable banzialert if it didnt flash my screen in pvp |
| 00:23.44 | dodgizzla | Hm that's Hiragana :o |
| 00:23.48 | Thrae | dodgizzla: VitalWatch can do all of what BanzaiAlert does, except its more configurable. |
| 00:23.56 | Thrae | Oops |
| 00:24.03 | Thrae | s/dodgizzla/Arrowmaster/ |
| 00:24.29 | Thrae | VitalWatch uses BanzaiLib. |
| 00:25.29 | Arrowmaster | so where the hell is CIA |
| 00:25.33 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: right, well you don't need BanzaiAlert to use aUF_Banzai or PitBull_Banzai. |
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| 00:25.50 | vhaarr | I couldn't live without the unit frame banzai as a healer |
| 00:26.22 | Arrowmaster | im dps, i mainly just wanted the 'hey some mob is targeting you' msg |
| 00:26.53 | vhaarr | you can turn off the flash |
| 00:27.25 | Thrae | VitalWatch does Big Message Alert, sound, chat, flash, log |
| 00:27.31 | Arrowmaster | i found the msgs annoying in pvp though |
| 00:27.35 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: <3 GridStatusHealer |
| 00:27.46 | Thrae | It has the ability to automatically turn itself off in PvP |
| 00:27.54 | dodgizzla | Actually I could toss PitBull away too, but Grid alone is just to much for me :D |
| 00:28.24 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Be #5 to actually try it! |
| 00:28.51 | Thrae | I need to recode both BanzaiLib and VitalWatch |
| 00:30.13 | Thrae | VitalWatch especially is going to benefit from LoadManagers |
| 00:30.20 | Thrae | Must...optimize...everything! |
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| 00:30.36 | NightHawkTheSane | optimize your mom. |
| 00:30.45 | vhaarr | Thrae: If you have any ideas for Banzai, I'd like to hear them - I did some optimizations not long ago. |
| 00:31.50 | Arrowmaster | LoadManagers needs more work in the blizzard api |
| 00:32.56 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: apparently shadow form will be a stance in 2.1, fyi |
| 00:33.04 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: not sure if BT3 will need any changes to support that |
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| 00:33.59 | ckknight | alright |
| 00:34.04 | ckknight | back from showering |
| 00:34.33 | ckknight | is the SVN working again? |
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| 00:38.32 | Amadeo | ROFL, SOE bought Sigil Games |
| 00:38.35 | Amadeo | *dies* |
| 00:39.17 | Amadeo | http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/46965 |
| 00:39.22 | Amadeo | that's f'ing hilarious |
| 00:39.26 | NeoTron | expected |
| 00:40.00 | Amadeo | I hope Penny Arcade makes a new comic |
| 00:40.23 | NeoTron | obiously the game flunked, the money ran out and soe thinks they have a new cow they can milk |
| 00:40.41 | NeoTron | while the sigil games ppl are sadly returning to mommy with their tail between their legs |
| 00:40.42 | Amadeo | That's not the irony though |
| 00:40.44 | NeoTron | funny really |
| 00:41.00 | wobin | woah! |
| 00:41.04 | wobin | Byebye Falwell! |
| 00:41.07 | vhaarr | ckknight: yeah, the svn works, but CIA is gone |
| 00:41.08 | NeoTron | I know it was founded by ex-EQ developers unhappy with the direction of EQ2 / SOE |
| 00:41.26 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:41.27 | sbu | ckknight: [19:11:22] (sbu): http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/5457/pbraidv2sfhv6.png <-- something is wrong with warri in grp 2 :p |
| 00:41.28 | Amadeo | The funny part is how McQuaid the know-it-all left to make his own company, then went running back to SOE anyway :P |
| 00:41.32 | wobin | http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/15/jerry.falwell.ap/index.html |
| 00:41.33 | NeoTron | Especially like the decision by sigil games to shut down the official forums :-P |
| 00:41.35 | ckknight | sbu: I just made a commit |
| 00:41.45 | ckknight | sbu: sorry I couldn't earlier, SVN was down and I had to go to work |
| 00:41.45 | Amadeo | NeoTron: Hahah, I didn't know that |
| 00:41.52 | wobin | Well, I can conclusively say: Thank God =P |
| 00:42.06 | ckknight | sbu: also, I simplified things immensely with auras: added tag HasAura(arg) |
| 00:42.27 | ckknight | sbu: feel free to use that or recommend alias tags that use it |
| 00:42.39 | ckknight | sbu: e.g. HasShieldWall => HasAura(Shield Wall) now |
| 00:43.16 | ckknight | sbu: oh, also, please test. |
| 00:43.51 | sbu | ok :o |
| 00:44.50 | sbu | Shield Wall is the buff name? |
| 00:44.58 | Bruners | what is a good resoluton to run on ah 19" widescreen ? |
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| 00:45.34 | ckknight | sbu: yes. |
| 00:45.57 | ckknight | sbu: I mean, you'll still have HasShieldWall as the tag, but it's just an alias for HasAura(Shield Wall) |
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| 00:53.31 | _ions | So whats the best bag addon other than baggins? |
| 00:53.51 | _ions | Sanity looks good but I am having problems with it |
| 00:53.53 | kebinusan | arkinv, sanity is nice |
| 00:54.04 | _ions | I would love to use sanity |
| 00:54.05 | kebinusan | ark is probably the most feature complete atm, sanity is still betaish |
| 00:56.17 | sbu | ckknight: and the broken aura detection is fixed? (shadowform for warrior, ...) |
| 00:56.27 | ckknight | it should be. |
| 00:56.51 | sbu | meh, i need 25 ppl to test ;p |
| 00:56.54 | ckknight | please test, though |
| 00:56.56 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:56.57 | sbu | raid today was perfect |
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| 01:02.22 | ckknight_ | blah |
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| 01:13.12 | _ions | Does Sanity2 work with Bagnon |
| 01:13.39 | kebinusan | Anyone play with beryl much? |
| 01:13.57 | dodgizzla | http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/07040303.html <- that is some mad painting skill |
| 01:14.55 | wobin | kebinusan: I tried |
| 01:15.03 | wobin | It made my graphics card curl up in a corner and weep |
| 01:15.08 | kebinusan | heheh |
| 01:15.13 | wobin | but then, WoW does that on a regular basis |
| 01:15.34 | kebinusan | yeah I run Ubuntu atm, but I cant seem to get wow to go fullscreen and cover the window manager bars if beryl is running |
| 01:15.44 | wobin | One of my friends (with a better computer) was flipping desktops in Beryl at about .... 15 per second |
| 01:15.59 | wobin | It was blurry, but kinda cool =) |
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| 01:16.51 | hyperChipmunk | funny how the age of the painting is now considered part of it |
| 01:17.20 | hyperChipmunk | he didn't draw the mona lisa, he drew it as it appears after 400 years |
| 01:18.53 | Thorgard | I wasn't able to get WoW in OpenGL mode when running Beryl at all. |
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| 01:28.44 | Arrowmaster | ~whaleslap CIA-23 |
| 01:28.57 | purl | ACTION beats CIA-23 upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 01:29.08 | kergoth | kebinusan: thats odd, it worked fine for me under debian. whats fun is going into compose and watching it render wow in that little window, or spinning around the 3d cube with wow animating as it goes.. hehe |
| 01:29.18 | kergoth | my video card is pretty crap too though, had to disable it till i upgrade |
| 01:34.21 | nymbia | bah, kaelten disappears right after cia comes back up :( |
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| 01:37.31 | Herio | hmm |
| 01:37.54 | Herio | anyone know where I can can the pally's aura bar in the framexml? |
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| 01:38.28 | Invid | Anyone know by chance how to make the Main Tank windows pop-up in the new Pitbull? |
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| 01:41.03 | ckknight | Herio: stance bar |
| 01:41.09 | ckknight | Invid: only works in PTR |
| 01:41.39 | kebinusan | kergoth: yeah I think its the dock bar with ubuntu that isnt working right, I'll look for an eyecandy rich dock later |
| 01:41.40 | Invid | Dang! Oh well another great feature to look foward too |
| 01:41.41 | Herio | ckknight: which file is that in, I can't find it XD |
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| 01:41.56 | ckknight | Invid: just wait a week :-P |
| 01:42.06 | ckknight | Herio: grep ftw |
| 01:42.15 | Invid | ckknight one question did the new version fix the thing where bars would get stuck on your mouse? I upgraded quiet a few versions. |
| 01:42.18 | Herio | windows ftl |
| 01:42.35 | ckknight | Invid: thought I fixed that a while ago. |
| 01:42.47 | Invid | Nice :D |
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| 01:43.40 | Invid | ck your my hero btw these bars are amazing |
| 01:43.56 | ckknight | :-) |
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| 01:44.51 | kergoth | bars? |
| 01:46.26 | art3mis | boobies |
| 01:47.08 | sbu | where? |
| 01:47.13 | NightHawkTheSane | BOOBIES! \o/ |
| 01:47.17 | Megalon | hm |
| 01:47.21 | Megalon | who mentioned boobies |
| 01:47.46 | dodgizzla | boobies? |
| 01:49.08 | NightHawkTheSane | so uh, who else has seen that applegeeks comic? >.> |
| 01:50.23 | kenlyric | there are too many servers. |
| 01:50.37 | art3mis | they made a comic about apple geeks? |
| 01:50.39 | art3mis | wow |
| 01:50.45 | NightHawkTheSane | er... no.... |
| 01:51.01 | NightHawkTheSane | well, not quite at least |
| 01:51.15 | art3mis | next yer gonna tell me they have a "festival" celebrating how awesome it was to live in medieval times with pestilence and poor hygeiene and lack of food and rats |
| 01:51.23 | Arrowmaster | heh applegeeks is a great comic |
| 01:51.45 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: they have festivals celebrating urban life? |
| 01:51.57 | art3mis | touche~! |
| 01:52.24 | art3mis | i believe they are known as "folk concerts" |
| 01:53.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, indeed. |
| 01:53.12 | NightHawkTheSane | in any case.. http://www.applegeeks.com/comic_archive/viewcomic.php?issue=125 :) |
| 01:53.59 | art3mis | heh |
| 01:54.10 | art3mis | http://chsalmon.club.fr/index.php?en/Yod-m-3d-about <-- this is awesome |
| 01:54.25 | art3mis | it messes with my 6 vterms in bblean but its still awesome |
| 01:55.07 | aen` | anyone use prat? |
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| 01:56.24 | a-stray-cat | was it wrong of me to ban my roomat'e's computer from our router because he was torrenting during my raid time? |
| 01:56.33 | Xuerian | art3mis: Bah, that renders the windows to bitmaps then spins them |
| 01:56.34 | Xuerian | that's no fun |
| 01:56.48 | Xuerian | or well, grabs the current frame from the framebuffer. whatever <.< |
| 01:57.02 | kergoth | should add a feature to violation to show the window when you're a group and hide it when you arent |
| 01:57.38 | art3mis | its still neat for a cheap multi desktop |
| 01:57.51 | art3mis | and its possible to drag between the sides |
| 01:58.07 | art3mis | plus you can scale it down so its not displaying on the full desktop |
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| 01:59.49 | aen` | pitbull able to space b/t party members? |
| 02:00.03 | Invid | yes |
| 02:00.06 | Diao | grouping |
| 02:00.16 | hyperChipmunk | Grouping->Spacing |
| 02:00.26 | wobin | a-stray-cat: No. Such is the power of the network administrator =) |
| 02:01.07 | hyperChipmunk | yea, we would actually think less of you if you didn't |
| 02:02.42 | sbu | oh |
| 02:02.47 | sbu | any of you got fraps + vista? |
| 02:02.56 | chutwig | yaaaaay |
| 02:03.00 | chutwig | i just got my mag trinket |
| 02:03.04 | chutwig | 1158 shadow now! |
| 02:03.56 | Arrowmaster | i really need to replace my tier2, only at 1077 shadow |
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| 02:05.05 | chutwig | going to have to switch some pieces in and out to decide how much hit to destack |
| 02:10.49 | sbu | fraps with 10fps sucks :/ |
| 02:15.00 | Invid | i've had trouble with vista |
| 02:15.03 | Invid | i hate it so bad |
| 02:15.14 | Invid | like even warcraft runs like shit on it |
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| 02:17.35 | sbu | well, 60-70 fps wow, no problem |
| 02:17.49 | hyperChipmunk | but it looks so spiffy! |
| 02:17.52 | sbu | but with fraps enabled its down to 5-10 (winxp 25fps) |
| 02:17.55 | hyperChipmunk | you don't need to be able to use it |
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| 02:20.43 | sbu | hm, because it looks good? |
| 02:20.54 | hyperChipmunk | naturally |
| 02:21.06 | sbu | its like good looking + really dumb chicks? |
| 02:21.12 | hyperChipmunk | precisely |
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| 02:28.01 | sbu | boobs! (*hightlight*) |
| 02:28.36 | wobin | http://www.applegeeks.com/comic_archive/viewcomic.php?issue=187 |
| 02:28.44 | wobin | boobies!! |
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| 02:30.54 | harldephin | there's no highlights other than for my sole nick with me |
| 02:31.13 | harldephin | (faultiness intended) |
| 02:31.42 | NightHawkTheSane | BOOBIEs!!1 |
| 02:31.42 | sbu | no? hm |
| 02:35.23 | Xuerian | Noooo... Boobies! http://www.applegeeks.com/comic_archive/viewcomic.php?issue=357 |
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| 02:37.44 | nekoh | hey all |
| 02:38.07 | Xuerian | boobies. |
| 02:38.21 | nekoh | can someone please tell me the function for getting the name of the frame under the mouse cursor ? |
| 02:38.46 | Xuerian | */dump (GetMouseFocus()):GetName() |
| 02:38.52 | Xuerian | Or just */dump GetMouseFocus() |
| 02:38.55 | nekoh | thx |
| 02:38.55 | Xuerian | er well |
| 02:38.56 | Xuerian | yeah |
| 02:39.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I forgot why I stopped reading applegeeks. :\ |
| 02:39.16 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: 0.o |
| 02:39.27 | harldephin | nlol |
| 02:39.28 | harldephin | -n |
| 02:39.32 | NightHawkTheSane | It must have been a good reason, but for hte life of me i can't remember, and now I think I should catch up |
| 02:39.36 | Xuerian | stop... reading... applegeeks? |
| 02:39.44 | Xuerian | I don't believe you =O |
| 02:39.45 | harldephin | haha |
| 02:39.55 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, I don't believe me either! |
| 02:40.02 | Xuerian | Good. :D |
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| 02:54.00 | NightHawkTheSane | I hate documenting code. >< |
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| 02:55.36 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Do it as you write it :p |
| 02:56.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: I'm trying to with this project, the trouble is either I forget, or i go back and change something and don't update the comments. :p |
| 02:56.16 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Excellent points... |
| 02:56.24 | Xuerian | Why are you documenting it, anyway? client project? |
| 02:57.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: not really, more something for a friend and myself to use, so I'd like it to be easier for him to hack on it if he wants. |
| 02:58.25 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Oooo. Anything interesting? :D |
| 03:00.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: um, guess that depends on what you consider interesting? :P It's a web-app that generates dynamic (and customizable) "maps". You can upload a base image to use as a background and add stuff on top, like a grid, markers, and such. |
| 03:01.02 | NightHawkTheSane | It's more or less designed to be used for running pencil&paper rpgs, handling combat maps, or similar. |
| 03:01.12 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, sounds interesting :P |
| 03:01.25 | Xuerian | Nice :) |
| 03:02.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, I have an old version i threw together a couple years ago for a d20 Modern game I was running on irc, and my friend is running a Shadowrun game I'm playing in, so he wants to use it for that, so I'm fixing it up :) |
| 03:03.05 | NightHawkTheSane | last week he hooked is laptop up to the TV, and just used GIMP to do the map stuff, which was really awesome, but a bit cumbersome |
| 03:03.12 | Xuerian | lol. |
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| 03:10.44 | Gokie | Anyone give me some recommendations on good IRC client and/or mIRC scripts? I hadn't been using IRC for a long time until recently, and still using a SysReset build from like 4 years ago |
| 03:11.20 | Xuerian | irssi/hydrairc. no mirc :p |
| 03:11.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Gaim isn't too shabby as an IRC client if you're just casual about being in irc |
| 03:11.34 | Gokie | er, is that a Windows client... guess I should've mentioned that |
| 03:12.00 | Gokie | I use Trillian for my IM needs, and I really like it for everything except IRC |
| 03:12.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine irssi has windows ports too, hell it probably has a beos port. |
| 03:12.16 | Gokie | so I don't really want another multi-IM client |
| 03:12.29 | NightHawkTheSane | so.. ditch trillian and use gaim for IM too? ;) |
| 03:12.37 | Gokie | I like Trillian =P |
| 03:12.44 | Xuerian | irssi if you're friendly with consoles, hydrairc for fancy windows. |
| 03:12.50 | Xuerian | Neither. miranda :) |
| 03:13.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i actually use Adium for IM and x-chat aqua for irc, but i'm on a mac so I have kickass programs like that :) |
| 03:13.25 | Gokie | haha |
| 03:13.31 | Gokie | yeah, I love Adium |
| 03:13.36 | Gokie | but I can't afford a Mac |
| 03:13.51 | Gokie | well, none of the Macs that I want anyway X-D |
| 03:13.51 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. mine's old and i cant afford a new one yet. >< |
| 03:14.24 | Gokie | hmm, HydraIRC looks pretty nice, think I'll give that a whirl |
| 03:15.51 | NightHawkTheSane | miranda looks interesting, next time i have to use a pc i might check it out |
| 03:15.53 | Xuerian | Just hex out the annoying quit messages :p |
| 03:16.09 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Stable version of miranda is pretty old. If you try it, get the dev version :P |
| 03:16.27 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 03:16.51 | Roartindon | heh.. when I first got a mac, I wasn't happy with any of the IM clients, so I wrote my own |
| 03:17.01 | Roartindon | I'll have to rewrite it sometime and add IRC/etc to it |
| 03:17.01 | Xuerian | 0.o |
| 03:17.14 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 03:17.32 | Roartindon | It's soo soo outdated now, but check the screenshots: http://www.users.on.net/~jtlim/UnI/screenshots.php |
| 03:17.35 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, there werent too many good clients before Adium |
| 03:17.42 | aen` | anyone got a combat log suggestion? |
| 03:18.00 | wobin | ?> |
| 03:18.02 | Gokie | EavesDrop and SimpleCombatLog works for me |
| 03:18.03 | wobin | >< |
| 03:18.12 | wobin | I can't believe I just read the whole applegeeks archive |
| 03:18.28 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: nice. |
| 03:18.30 | Xuerian | the fact that you have a windows icon next to it isn't ironic at all, right? |
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| 03:18.41 | Roartindon | Xuerian: It runs on both Windows and Mac OSX |
| 03:18.48 | Xuerian | I guess not o.0 |
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| 03:19.24 | aen` | gokie: what is simplechatmod? |
| 03:19.33 | aen` | what features does it have? |
| 03:19.59 | aen` | wait nm |
| 03:20.01 | aen` | theres two |
| 03:20.04 | aen` | combatlog and chatmod |
| 03:21.39 | Gokie | it just makes the combat log prettier =P |
| 03:21.43 | Roartindon | Xuerian: I never did bring up the Windows UI to the same level as the Mac OSX one tho, because I couldn't be bothered |
| 03:21.47 | NightHawkTheSane | SCL is really nice, it's pretty robust and can do quite a few different things |
| 03:21.58 | aen` | simplechatmod the same thing? |
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| 03:22.23 | NightHawkTheSane | no, SCM is entirely different |
| 03:22.41 | Xuerian | Roartindon: Heh. Minimal is good. |
| 03:23.07 | Roartindon | Xuerian: The mac osx version has a really really cool message searching mechanism tho, that never got implemented in the windows version |
| 03:23.20 | Xuerian | Roartindon: Oh? Describe :D |
| 03:23.27 | Roartindon | Xuerian: I could specify searches such as "find all of the messages from Blah on a Wednesday between 2pm and 5pm containing the word blah.." |
| 03:23.36 | Roartindon | in an iTunes like dialog box style.. |
| 03:23.41 | Xuerian | Ouh. Nice :p |
| 03:23.45 | Roartindon | then it'll show those, double clicking on the searches will show the conversatio nin contex |
| 03:23.46 | Roartindon | context |
| 03:24.03 | Xuerian | Very nice. |
| 03:24.08 | Roartindon | So that I could use my IM without worrying about copy-pasting important stuff, ebcause it was easy to find |
| 03:24.44 | Gokie | wow, hydrairc is... busy |
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| 03:33.23 | Roartindon | Xuerian: http://www.lim.com.au/UnI/messagebrowser.png |
| 03:34.03 | Xuerian | Roartindon: What database? |
| 03:34.08 | Roartindon | Xuerian: my own :) |
| 03:34.14 | Xuerian | nifty :P |
| 03:34.28 | Roartindon | My own script language and interpreter, my own database, my own reverse engineering of ICQ, MSN, Yahoo and AIM.. etc. etc :) |
| 03:35.00 | Xuerian | Dang o.0 |
| 03:35.03 | Xuerian | How long did this take you? |
| 03:35.45 | Roartindon | just a side hobby project for .. 4-5 months I think |
| 03:36.03 | Xuerian | Heh, nice. |
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| 03:42.12 | Guillotine_Ghost | hmm. my pitbull frames keep pulling a vanishing act :( |
| 03:44.14 | hyperChipmunk | have combatfader? |
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| 03:57.52 | Kemayo | There any RatingBuster alternatives out there? |
| 03:58.23 | NightHawkTheSane | um, tekkub had tekirate, but im not sure he's kept that up to date |
| 03:58.50 | Diao | nymbia: http://ace.pastey.net/31597 |
| 04:00.06 | nymbia | Diao: should be fixed in current |
| 04:00.18 | Diao | ok |
| 04:00.19 | Tekkub | no I abandoned it, but am half tempted to bring it back |
| 04:00.20 | Diao | updating again :p |
| 04:00.30 | Tekkub | that tooltip hook library still pisses me off |
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| 04:00.43 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, ratingbuster could stand a real solid once over. |
| 04:00.46 | nymbia | Tekkub: have you looked at the code for statlogiclib? it almost made me cry. |
| 04:03.33 | Roartindon | nymbia: I did look at it to try and fix it at one stage... and it's a mess..... |
| 04:04.03 | nymbia | Roartindon: yeah. |
| 04:04.14 | Tekkub | I don't want to.... |
| 04:04.19 | Megalon | hehe |
| 04:04.33 | Tekkub | I don't have the ambition to write a RB mod, and if I look in theer I will have to do it |
| 04:04.45 | Megalon | :D |
| 04:06.59 | nymbia | he stores a local reference of tonumber |
| 04:07.00 | nymbia | .... |
| 04:07.05 | nymbia | in the locale table. |
| 04:07.36 | Gokie | Question for you guys who use the format of "[name]: message"... do you type the name manually or is there an IRC client that lets you like click on someone's name to paste into editbox |
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| 04:08.36 | nymbia | Gokie: most clients have tab completion if you enter the first couple characters of a name |
| 04:08.41 | Xuerian | nymbia: Smooth quartz bar anim plz :( |
| 04:09.21 | nymbia | Xuerian: that's as smooth as it gets, it updates OnUpdate |
| 04:09.40 | Xuerian | nymbia: That's odd =\... The blip moves smoothly, but the bar texture doesn't |
| 04:09.49 | nymbia | Xuerian: hrm. |
| 04:10.04 | Roartindon | nymbia: heh.. I can tell you why, but you won't like it :P |
| 04:10.15 | Gokie | nymbia: Oh, cool, thanks. Either this wasn't there when I last used IRC frequently or I'm just a noob ^^ |
| 04:10.17 | nymbia | Roartindon: try me :o |
| 04:10.30 | Roartindon | okay.. lua has numbers which are 64-bit floating point precision |
| 04:10.42 | Roartindon | Internally, it seems like statusbar uses 32-bit floating point precision numbers |
| 04:11.06 | Roartindon | So this brings two choices: Either make the numbers fit well into 32-bit precision |
| 04:11.10 | Roartindon | Or update the status bar's texture manually using 64-bit precision |
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| 04:11.54 | Roartindon | either way, you get a smoother animation if you do the texture normalization manually in lua |
| 04:12.02 | Roartindon | than if you rely on SetValue with min/max values that are large |
| 04:12.19 | Roartindon | you can try it......... SetMinMaxValues(100000, 100001) |
| 04:12.26 | Roartindon | Then do SetValue(100000.5) |
| 04:12.32 | Roartindon | Or actually, use .3 instead |
| 04:12.33 | Roartindon | and see waht you get |
| 04:13.02 | nymbia | hrm, lemme see.. |
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| 04:14.09 | nymbia | Roartindon: it's working correctly, actually |
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| 04:17.22 | nymbia | Roartindon: oh, there it goes |
| 04:17.23 | nymbia | rofl |
| 04:17.24 | nymbia | that |
| 04:17.27 | nymbia | 's horrible. |
| 04:17.40 | Xuerian | See? >.o |
| 04:18.27 | nymbia | hrm. |
| 04:18.36 | Roartindon | Normalizing time to 0-1 is probably easiest |
| 04:18.56 | Roartindon | so you do SetValue( (GetTime()-startTime) / (endTime- startTime) ) |
| 04:19.04 | Roartindon | and then the casting bars ranges are fixed 0-1 |
| 04:21.36 | nymbia | Roartindon: yeah, since i'm calculating that percentage anyway for the spark. |
| 04:22.48 | aen` | does bar tender have a cooldown count? |
| 04:23.22 | NightHawkTheSane | no, use omnicc |
| 04:24.24 | Xuerian | Woo, I can smell smooth quartz :D |
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| 04:27.06 | Xuerian | Nuuuuuu |
| 04:27.09 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man, that'd be neat. |
| 04:28.22 | Xuerian | s/== or/== 0 or/ |
| 04:28.31 | Xuerian | <.< |
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| 04:29.24 | nymbia | Xuerian: commit up (just for player for the moment), grab it and see if it's smooth ;) |
| 04:30.06 | wobin | hehe best quote ever =) |
| 04:30.07 | wobin | "Gen Y-ers may have those new-fangly electronic doo-dads, but Gen X-ers have adamantium claws and mutant healing powers." |
| 04:30.30 | Herio | hardly best |
| 04:30.32 | Herio | hardly good |
| 04:31.04 | wobin | hardly noticed |
| 04:31.41 | NightHawkTheSane | psh. Adamantium claws are so passe. I've got a full on alphaware synthetic cyberarm. *nods* |
| 04:32.00 | wobin | alphaware? Does that mean it's not even beta? =) |
| 04:32.14 | Herio | no it means it's the beginning of your end |
| 04:32.15 | Xuerian | nymbia: Mmmm... bobbly-bits smooth. |
| 04:32.17 | Xuerian | I mean uh |
| 04:32.18 | Xuerian | silk. |
| 04:32.20 | Xuerian | <.< |
| 04:32.24 | nymbia | haha, good :) |
| 04:32.33 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: in shadowrun, alphware is high quality cyberware. ;) |
| 04:32.44 | vhaarr | bioware pwns you nub |
| 04:32.49 | wobin | Microsoft think that too =) |
| 04:33.11 | wobin | A possible link? |
| 04:33.16 | Xuerian | Amen, vhaarr. |
| 04:33.17 | wobin | (dun dun duhhhhn) |
| 04:33.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Maybe, but you can't go all terminator with bioware. |
| 04:33.31 | vhaarr | I haven't played SR3 since last winter :/ |
| 04:34.19 | Herio | is the shadowrun video game supposed to be any good? |
| 04:34.35 | vhaarr | it looks kind of cool |
| 04:34.41 | vhaarr | I'm not convinced, though. |
| 04:35.07 | NightHawkTheSane | someone here was saying the game looked good, but not really anything worth calling shadowrun |
| 04:35.28 | vhaarr | Really? I've only seen the demonstration video provided on the Xbox 360. |
| 04:35.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I only peruse the website briefly, so I can't say myself. |
| 04:35.47 | NightHawkTheSane | perused* |
| 04:35.55 | Herio | kinda how invisable war isn't really deus ex =/ |
| 04:36.23 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd really love to see a nicely done shadowrun mmog. |
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| 04:43.06 | vhaarr | "All these early remotes are purely mechanical. No batteries at all. When you push the button, a small hammer strikes an aluminum rod, triggering a sound above our hearing range that’s picked up by the TV." |
| 04:43.09 | vhaarr | that's just brilliant |
| 04:43.12 | vhaarr | http://www.historyofthebutton.com/2007/03/26/zenith-space-command-unboxing-a-mystery/ |
| 04:43.27 | sylvanaar | I used to have a tv like that |
| 04:43.35 | wobin | "And this is the box that goes *ding*!"? =) |
| 04:43.41 | sylvanaar | Thats why its called the clicker |
| 04:44.03 | wobin | And why it works better when you hit it against something, you're realigning the hammer! |
| 04:44.17 | sylvanaar | Technical tap ftw |
| 04:44.26 | wobin | Percussive Maintenence |
| 04:44.44 | sylvanaar | Impact adjustment |
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| 04:50.20 | art3mis | i had one of those |
| 04:50.27 | art3mis | well the space commander III |
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| 04:57.14 | Roartindon | nymbia: Hmm.. to update the Latency module.. probably just need to remove all the castBar:SetMinMaxValues ? |
| 04:58.52 | nymbia | Roartindon: oh, yeah. forgot about those. |
| 05:00.12 | nymbia | done |
| 05:03.12 | art3mis | so no update today eh? |
| 05:04.17 | vhaarr | nymbia: err, I fixed CBRipoff to use 1-100 instead of time-based min/max values like 4 hours before you checked in quartz initially. |
| 05:04.22 | vhaarr | can't believe you didn't notice |
| 05:04.38 | nymbia | vhaarr: no idea how i managed that. |
| 05:04.51 | nymbia | at least it was a quick and easy change. |
| 05:04.53 | vhaarr | then I fixed agUF to the same effect |
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| 05:06.23 | sylvanaar | cia dead? |
| 05:06.30 | vhaarr | it was dead, yes |
| 05:06.37 | vhaarr | so kaelten disabled the post-commit hook |
| 05:06.58 | nymbia | he left like 30 seconds after CIA came back :( |
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| 05:07.05 | ZealotOnAStick | I hired an assassin named Kennedy to kill CIA. |
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| 05:08.16 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:09.26 | nymbia | hey ckk |
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| 05:10.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Nymbia, so, I'm sure you've been asked this before, but I wasn't around to pay attention to the answer . . . |
| 05:10.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Why call it Quartz? |
| 05:10.34 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: shiny things and watches. |
| 05:10.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i thought it was obvious.. |
| 05:11.30 | Roartindon | vharr: Why use 1-100, instead of 0-1? |
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| 05:17.04 | Laric | is cia down? |
| 05:17.15 | art3mis | like yer mom on nickle tuesday |
| 05:17.20 | art3mis | errr i mean yes |
| 05:17.47 | NightHawkTheSane | no, CIA-23 is probably working, b ut the post-commit hook in the repo was disabled becuase it was down for a while |
| 05:18.44 | Laric | ah ok |
| 05:18.49 | sylvanaar | no fun |
| 05:19.11 | nymbia | commits were taking a week because it kept trying to connect to cia |
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| 05:23.18 | art3mis | Heres a trick for yeah, the level 62 Mistresses of doom in the Pools of aggonar |
| 05:23.18 | art3mis | enslave the poor things and force them to summon Imps. The imp are normaly hostile and stay hostile, ill leave it up to you to think of things to do with a Demon that mass spawns little imps that will kill anyone. |
| 05:23.21 | art3mis | bahahahahahaha |
| 05:23.44 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 05:23.53 | sylvanaar | i love enslave demon |
| 05:24.09 | art3mis | i so wanna see a vid of that solo lock taking down world dragons ;P |
| 05:24.34 | sylvanaar | how did he do it>? |
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| 05:28.59 | art3mis | no-one has yet |
| 05:29.05 | art3mis | i was saying i wanna see someone do it |
| 05:29.29 | art3mis | using just those stupid imps although i do forsee a problem ;P what with the whole getting back to azeroth |
| 05:29.52 | art3mis | but take that mob and comjure a buttload of imps to the gate |
| 05:29.59 | art3mis | THAT wuold be kinna funny |
| 05:30.28 | Arrowmaster | ive yet to test enslave on the ptr with the new mounting thing |
| 05:30.51 | Arrowmaster | although there used to be a bug where you could enslave the hunters epic quest mobs |
| 05:31.10 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 05:31.12 | Arrowmaster | and another bug where if somebody mindcontroled you and made you attack your enslaved pet, it would never break |
| 05:31.14 | sylvanaar | long time ago |
| 05:31.26 | sylvanaar | that one was the best |
| 05:31.44 | sylvanaar | you could log off and log back in |
| 05:31.51 | sylvanaar | and still have it |
| 05:32.12 | Arrowmaster | i never could get one of the hoodoo piles in zg to mc me while i had one of those imps enslaved |
| 05:32.16 | sylvanaar | and have like 3 at once |
| 05:32.48 | sylvanaar | i miss being able to enslave lord banehollow |
| 05:33.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah it sucks that they made him immune |
| 05:33.13 | Arrowmaster | i cant even remember his abilitys now |
| 05:33.51 | sylvanaar | http://derey.home.mindspring.com/wowscrnshot_103005_074723.jpg |
| 05:34.38 | sylvanaar | one was a soul drain for mega damage |
| 05:35.02 | sylvanaar | im guessing the other was a shadowbolt |
| 05:36.17 | sylvanaar | predicitable enslave breakage and no DR = enslaved forever |
| 05:36.29 | Roartindon | hmm.. |
| 05:36.36 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: The latest prat prevents me from even logging into the game |
| 05:36.47 | Roartindon | r35402 works |
| 05:36.51 | art3mis | i blame ckk |
| 05:36.54 | Roartindon | later than that, Idon't get past the loading screen |
| 05:37.03 | sylvanaar | are you running aloft? or anything? |
| 05:38.59 | sylvanaar | gah, i meant expo |
| 05:39.02 | sylvanaar | lol sorry |
| 05:41.27 | art3mis | hey roar |
| 05:41.33 | art3mis | you running that addon you made? |
| 05:41.35 | art3mis | ;) |
| 05:41.42 | nymbia | rofl |
| 05:42.20 | sylvanaar | reverted - until i can figure out why that breaks things |
| 05:43.41 | art3mis | if mode[ckknight] = TRUE {run for the = hills} |
| 05:44.21 | sylvanaar | Roartindon its reverted, thanks- though i have no clue why that causes a hang |
| 05:45.03 | sylvanaar | I guess you cant do a :RegisterAllEvents() inside an event? |
| 05:45.14 | kaiden^ | sylvanaar, dunno if anyone told ya yet |
| 05:45.38 | kaiden^ | getting strsub errors on line 762 |
| 05:46.14 | Roartindon | Sorry, was in the middle of arena, I'l try and debug it later |
| 05:46.54 | sylvanaar | kaiden^ its cause you updated without a restart i think |
| 05:47.16 | kaiden^ | updated before i ever started the game |
| 05:47.16 | sylvanaar | the build on files is bad |
| 05:47.17 | kaiden^ | :P |
| 05:47.23 | kaiden^ | ok |
| 05:47.59 | kaiden^ | is Prat-r35410 good? |
| 05:50.41 | Angry_Dwarf | does antagonist work with pets? say for felhunters |
| 05:52.45 | sylvanaar | 35575 or 35402 |
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| 05:54.46 | Kemayo | What's the cost for epic riding training + mount nowadays? |
| 05:54.55 | sylvanaar | im guessing its an aceevent thing, perhaps ckknight knows |
| 05:55.58 | sylvanaar | calling :RegisterAllEvents() inside a scheduled event causes a lockup |
| 05:57.01 | ckknight | really? |
| 05:59.27 | sylvanaar | actually, not just there |
| 05:59.51 | sylvanaar | let me try some more locations |
| 06:01.07 | sylvanaar | onenable |
| 06:01.46 | nymbia | if that's the case then it would probably happen in anything triggered by aceevent |
| 06:01.56 | nymbia | try in a normal event handler |
| 06:02.39 | sylvanaar | it must be something i am doing, - but im at a loss clearly |
| 06:02.54 | sylvanaar | OnInit |
| 06:03.59 | sylvanaar | Should I make another addon to call that? is it not safe to do it from Prat? |
| 06:04.29 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 06:04.54 | art3mis | what do want? FRY'S DOG!!! when do we want it? FRY'S DOG |
| 06:05.03 | art3mis | this is the saddest futurama |
| 06:05.41 | Saladin | good morning, wowacers |
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| 06:06.13 | Saladin | thus allergy is getting the best of me *snf* |
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| 06:09.44 | Invid | Saladin what server do you play on |
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| 06:11.03 | Saladin | I play Kul Tiras and Steamwheedle |
| 06:11.24 | Saladin | You thinking of another Saladin perhaps? :p |
| 06:11.40 | Invid | yup |
| 06:11.44 | Saladin | **, |
| 06:11.53 | Saladin | What're you up to then? |
| 06:14.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Hey, question, if a buff that's giving me +damage runs out mid-cast, does the spell get the benefit of that damage or no? |
| 06:14.45 | sylvanaar | I cant call it from a module either - no matter when i call it it seems to lock up the client |
| 06:16.20 | sylvanaar | any chance of it getting added to AceEvent? a sequence number for each event? |
| 06:16.21 | Saladin | NightHawkTheSane: are you talking a channeled spell, or normal, like a fireball? |
| 06:16.37 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, normal cast spell, but the answer to both is nice :) |
| 06:17.14 | Saladin | um, if a normal cast spell stops mid-casting, you probably wont get anything |
| 06:17.23 | Saladin | what spell are you referring to btw? |
| 06:18.10 | sylvanaar | since i have 7 frames which may be processing the same event, i need a way to know if i have already processed that event |
| 06:19.00 | sylvanaar | anyone solved this in their addon? |
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| 06:20.12 | Saladin | NightHawkTheSane: nudge |
| 06:20.33 | art3mis | it's Dolemite baby! |
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| 06:21.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Saladin: sorry, i an instance |
| 06:21.19 | NightHawkTheSane | In my case, lightning bolt |
| 06:21.24 | Xuerian | sylvanaar: ..... I have a morbid curiosity question. Why are you getting the same event in seven frames? |
| 06:22.01 | Saladin | NightHawkTheSane: well, no spell would benefit from +damage if it doesnt hit :/ |
| 06:22.09 | Saladin | unless I'm misunderstanding you |
| 06:22.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Saladin: er, i think so, the spell casts, and hits, but the buff thats giving +dmg fades mid-cast |
| 06:22.58 | Arrowmaster | spell damage is calculated at the beginning of the cast |
| 06:23.04 | Saladin | yup |
| 06:23.14 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, thanks :) |
| 06:23.27 | sylvanaar | Xuerian they are blizzard chat frames |
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| 06:23.49 | Xuerian | Oh. "Blizzard" is sufficient. Continue with your work, citizen |
| 06:24.00 | sylvanaar | they have no common even dispatcher |
| 06:24.03 | nymbia | lol |
| 06:25.58 | sylvanaar | i'll have to create a separate addon to track events im guessing |
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| 06:30.25 | Herio | I can't seem to find away to tell what aura I have activated on my pally =/ |
| 06:30.35 | Saladin | buffbars? |
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| 06:31.00 | Herio | I mean in the back end |
| 06:31.28 | Herio | and without dealing with the confusion that multiple pallies with different auras brings =/ |
| 06:32.06 | Saladin | back end? :/ |
| 06:32.15 | Xuerian | script/addon/lua |
| 06:32.25 | Saladin | :p |
| 06:32.30 | Xuerian | You know |
| 06:32.31 | Herio | yes |
| 06:32.37 | Xuerian | the interface is like a good pair of breasticle |
| 06:32.48 | Xuerian | and the script is like the stinky, hairy ass. |
| 06:32.48 | Herio | breasicle? |
| 06:32.52 | Xuerian | or something. |
| 06:32.57 | Megalon | breasts? |
| 06:32.59 | Xuerian | Yeah, I need sleep, don't ask |
| 06:33.40 | Saladin | forgetting the names would imply you're not getting so much lately |
| 06:34.13 | Xuerian | .. yeah... lately... that's it |
| 06:34.41 | Herio | wts nyquil |
| 06:34.50 | Xuerian | wtb ^ |
| 06:35.05 | Megalon | breasticle.. is that something only hermaphrodites are aware of? |
| 06:35.06 | Megalon | hm |
| 06:35.08 | Megalon | good night :P |
| 06:36.24 | wobin | hm |
| 06:36.32 | wobin | is there a isdead modifier for macros? |
| 06:36.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I think so |
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| 06:37.14 | sylvanaar | ok, you cant name your RegisterAllEvents() handler "OnEvent" |
| 06:38.41 | sylvanaar | good god that isnt it either, i give up |
| 06:40.04 | Megalon | wobin: dead and nodead are the modifiers |
| 06:40.32 | wobin | Megalon: ta |
| 06:41.02 | sylvanaar | ok, i found it |
| 06:41.08 | sylvanaar | .EVENT_ID |
| 06:41.27 | sylvanaar | cant set that |
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| 06:45.41 | sylvanaar | or you have to check for event == nil ^.^ |
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| 06:50.47 | Megalon | sylvanaar: you having fun, don't you? :P |
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| 06:54.12 | Herio | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/interface-enhancements/auramap/ |
| 06:54.23 | Herio | stumbled across that, looks amazing |
| 06:54.44 | Megalon | wtf |
| 06:55.30 | Megalon | wow, it really does |
| 06:56.42 | Herio | aura map? |
| 06:56.49 | Megalon | yea |
| 06:56.59 | Herio | it sure does |
| 06:57.10 | Megalon | if i only played paladin :P |
| 06:58.04 | Megalon | looks like an awesome extension to the minimap for the right classes |
| 07:01.32 | Angry_Dwarf | yeah that looks pretty neat, wonder how resource intensive it is |
| 07:01.40 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb that on my shammy |
| 07:01.59 | Herio | don't work for totems atm |
| 07:02.06 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i saw |
| 07:02.09 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:02.18 | Herio | could be done pretty easily |
| 07:02.25 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 07:02.31 | Herio | I guess it would be like how he's doing the blood pact part |
| 07:03.05 | Megalon | you would have to save the spot where the totems where placed |
| 07:03.15 | Herio | you'd have a few yards of impersions due to the totems stomping in that unpredictable way =/ |
| 07:03.18 | Megalon | as they aren't shown on the minimap, but pets are |
| 07:03.19 | Herio | yeah |
| 07:03.30 | Herio | pets you can't get the location anyhow! |
| 07:03.49 | Megalon | totem stomping is 100% predictable on normal terrain |
| 07:04.01 | Megalon | well, you need the minimap position of the dot |
| 07:04.09 | Megalon | is that accessible for pets? |
| 07:04.12 | Megalon | as for the imp |
| 07:04.27 | Megalon | or does he display bloodpact just from where you stand? |
| 07:05.08 | Megalon | nevertheless this mod looks awesome |
| 07:05.11 | Herio | where you stand, then when you hit "stay", the circle stays |
| 07:05.15 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not sure how he draws the circles ,but if he can draw them from arbitrary points on the minimap, its a simple matter of creating a temporary mark on the map when a shaman puts a totem down |
| 07:05.20 | NightHawkTheSane | a la cart's notes. |
| 07:05.21 | Megalon | ah, nice idea. |
| 07:05.58 | Megalon | he could do the same for totems, but you'd have to do it for the 4 elements.. would be many rings on the minimap ;D |
| 07:06.18 | Herio | color em =P |
| 07:06.33 | Megalon | ;o |
| 07:07.17 | NightHawkTheSane | precisely |
| 07:07.46 | sylvanaar | i guess how to implement the event handler for RegisterAllEvents wasnt super clear - i see how now |
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| 07:08.28 | Megalon | even if you just use the player coords for totems, think that would be enough |
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| 07:09.07 | Megalon | that addon would be a reason to play my shamy twink! ;D |
| 07:12.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Megalon: yeah, using player coord's is the best bet, it'll never be worse than ~1-2 yards off. |
| 07:12.59 | sylvanaar | this look good?: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceEvent-2.0#Example_5 |
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| 07:29.34 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. maybe its too late for me to be watching memento |
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| 07:31.51 | Fisker- | yes |
| 07:34.33 | wobin | hah |
| 07:34.36 | wobin | and they call you sane =P |
| 07:35.08 | sylvanaar | Fisker- were you the one playing with WAU? |
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| 07:37.42 | sylvanaar | Fisker- if so i checked in new code |
| 07:38.18 | Fisker- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Colaa <-i lol'd |
| 07:38.25 | Fisker- | new code for WAU? |
| 07:41.55 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: they do? i thought it was just me. >.> |
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| 07:43.45 | evl | Fisker-: What's the lol? :p |
| 07:44.51 | NightHawkTheSane | where do you freaks get those urls with teh # in them? :P |
| 07:44.53 | Fisker- | well take a look at the cloak |
| 07:45.01 | Fisker- | and the neck |
| 07:45.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: lol |
| 07:45.52 | evl | ahh |
| 07:46.28 | evl | how the hell |
| 07:48.42 | Fisker- | you only added new version numbers? :o |
| 07:49.23 | Fisker- | or you mean the r(revision).somenumber downloads? |
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| 07:52.45 | sylvanaar | Fisker- i recoded its version number support |
| 07:53.20 | sylvanaar | Fisker- if you are playing with the code, try it out |
| 07:54.04 | Fisker- | I added autoupdating to the old version |
| 07:54.16 | Fisker- | although Kaelten didn't seem to happy about that one ;D |
| 07:54.31 | sylvanaar | ? |
| 07:54.42 | Fisker- | It updates all addons each 30 minutes |
| 07:54.48 | sylvanaar | o.O |
| 07:54.52 | sylvanaar | no |
| 07:55.36 | sylvanaar | but, at least you know how it works |
| 07:55.51 | Cryect | hahah Fisker- |
| 07:56.11 | Cryect | I'm sure thats exactly what the wowace website needs |
| 07:56.20 | Cryect | everyone with WAU autoupdating |
| 07:56.22 | Fisker- | heh |
| 07:56.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine kaelten would cry himself to sleep considering that |
| 07:56.39 | Diao | lol |
| 07:58.08 | Cryect | how often does files.wowace.com get updated even? |
| 07:58.16 | Megalon | every 20mins i think |
| 07:58.21 | sylvanaar | 20 min |
| 07:58.34 | Cryect | Should have sped up your autoupdate time then! |
| 07:59.41 | nymbia | rofl |
| 08:00.00 | Fisker- | reason i didn't do that was because it was from program start |
| 08:00.15 | Fisker- | i couldn't remember how to initialize a datetime |
| 08:00.21 | Fisker- | so i made a timer instead |
| 08:00.27 | NightHawkTheSane | wonder if you could pull last update time from files.wowace.com and sync to that. |
| 08:00.32 | sylvanaar | if you want to add something add commandline options, or support the latest.xml |
| 08:01.33 | evl | Anyone know how the wowace repo is set up so that when I commit to an addon I get a template with the addon name prefilled in TortoiseSVN? |
| 08:01.54 | sylvanaar | thats a tortise option |
| 08:02.05 | evl | But where in the repo is it set? |
| 08:02.06 | NightHawkTheSane | well, its a client-side svn option |
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| 08:02.17 | sylvanaar | its a property |
| 08:02.27 | sylvanaar | set at the folder level |
| 08:02.30 | evl | I figured as such but I can't find the actual location where it's set |
| 08:02.33 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: look it up in the svn book. |
| 08:02.44 | NightHawkTheSane | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 08:02.54 | ckknight | hey all |
| 08:02.58 | Roartindon | nymbia: ping |
| 08:03.28 | nymbia | Roartindon: hey |
| 08:03.36 | nymbia | hey ckk |
| 08:03.41 | Roartindon | nymbia: I think the channeled spell SetValue is wrong |
| 08:03.47 | Roartindon | should be remainingTime / (endTime -startTime) |
| 08:04.22 | evl | NightHawkTheSane: if it's a TortoiseSVN option how would it be documented in the SVN book? |
| 08:04.36 | [Ammo] | it's a generic svn option |
| 08:04.38 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 08:04.39 | nymbia | Roartindon: ah, yeah. would you mind commiting that? rebooting my main pc at the moment |
| 08:04.39 | NightHawkTheSane | it's -not- a tortoise-specific option. |
| 08:04.47 | evl | Found it :) |
| 08:04.48 | sylvanaar | its a property set on the addon folder |
| 08:04.53 | Roartindon | nymbia: sure |
| 08:04.55 | evl | tsvn:logtemplate sounds very Tortoise only to mne |
| 08:05.01 | sylvanaar | me too |
| 08:05.13 | sylvanaar | but there may be svn:logtemplate |
| 08:05.37 | evl | I was searching the parent folders for something like tsvn:logtemplate %foldername%\n- |
| 08:05.59 | Roartindon | the other thing |
| 08:06.06 | Roartindon | channelling doesn't seem to update the spark at all.. |
| 08:06.19 | Roartindon | is this something intentionally omitted? |
| 08:06.42 | nymbia | Roartindon: maybe, i don't remember. lol ;) |
| 08:07.47 | sylvanaar | so how does it work for non-tortise ppl? |
| 08:08.24 | nymbia | Roartindon: if you want to add that as well, feel free. just a positioning in the OnUpdate and a :Show in the CHANNEL_START handler |
| 08:09.08 | Roartindon | committed the channeling fix |
| 08:09.14 | Roartindon | Will worry about spark after I finish this run |
| 08:09.36 | evl | ckknight: fixed castbaricon last night woot! |
| 08:09.45 | ckknight | yay |
| 08:09.48 | evl | but wtf is up with Hide() |
| 08:09.55 | evl | It doesn't work in some cases, especially on textures with blend modes |
| 08:10.17 | evl | I could run Hide() on a texture, then print out IsVisible which would return nil but it would still be shown |
| 08:11.08 | sylvanaar | or better, how can i access the propeties from my web browser |
| 08:11.46 | evl | sylvanaar: you can't because browser can only do GET and POST while you have to use PROPFIND to look at properties |
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| 08:14.49 | sylvanaar | o |
| 08:15.12 | sylvanaar | i suppose i should lan trace to see what it does |
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| 08:17.01 | Neebler | http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/14700/2004574479926465548_rs.jpg |
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| 08:20.28 | wobin | meh |
| 08:20.33 | wobin | need 200 more beads |
| 08:20.57 | evl | for what? :P |
| 08:21.00 | evl | exalted consort? |
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| 08:22.10 | wobin | exalted kurenai |
| 08:22.15 | Neebler | I'd rather wait for the patch, that way it'll feel like I'm accomplishing something. Gaining reputation when I do the new consortium quests, instead of just gold |
| 08:22.39 | evl | Exalted consortium is so 5 weeks ago |
| 08:25.09 | evl | "Good-bye Ventrilo and Teamspeak? Blizzard is gearing up to add VoIP straight into the game for players" |
| 08:25.11 | evl | That's pretty sweet |
| 08:25.18 | evl | Automatic channels for parties and raids |
| 08:26.34 | Lyfe | what's that from? (sounds like an april fools joke) |
| 08:26.41 | undu | probably irc-chat. |
| 08:27.13 | Punkie` | How do I register a default that is 'screen width+10' ? :) |
| 08:27.16 | undu | oh nvm. |
| 08:27.17 | evl | It's not like VoIP is magic anymore |
| 08:27.26 | evl | you get a DLL that sets up a P2P network with X number of partcipants |
| 08:27.33 | evl | http://www.worldofraids.com/ |
| 08:27.47 | evl | it's in the Games for Windows magazine so I think we can safely say it's not an April fools joke |
| 08:27.54 | Cryect | its from the forums |
| 08:28.08 | Cryect | a blue post was talking about it a few days ago |
| 08:28.16 | Lyfe | hmm |
| 08:28.38 | Lyfe | i still don't entirely believe it, myself. |
| 08:28.50 | Cryect | haha one second and I can grab the blue post :-p |
| 08:29.02 | _icetrain | yeah remeber that blur post to |
| 08:29.10 | _icetrain | was in the shaman forum i think |
| 08:29.17 | Cryect | yeah |
| 08:29.23 | Cryect | someone was asking about totem UI |
| 08:29.41 | Cryect | and they said we have stuff we are working on that effect more people than totem ui :-p |
| 08:29.53 | _icetrain | :) |
| 08:29.55 | Cryect | and a list that included guild banks and voip |
| 08:30.10 | Neebler | about time they add VoIP to WoW! CounterStrike 1.6 did it years ago |
| 08:30.25 | wobin | That'd be cool nonetheless |
| 08:30.34 | Punkie` | it would be cool if it was decent |
| 08:30.49 | Punkie` | from what I recall, CS'shad terrible sound quality |
| 08:30.55 | sylvanaar | hope it comes with some sort of IP masking |
| 08:30.58 | Neebler | will make 5 man's so much easier. and any slackass who doesn't want to dish out the money to buy a ventrilo server, can now be a guildleader |
| 08:31.15 | yacoob | uh... head hurts... need new one... |
| 08:31.41 | Megalon | "You joined the ViOP-Channel 'Barrens - General'" |
| 08:31.42 | kebinusan | Lets just hope the in game voip stuff works under wine :-( |
| 08:31.43 | Megalon | gg |
| 08:31.48 | Megalon | VoIP |
| 08:31.49 | Megalon | i mean :o |
| 08:32.01 | Cryect | "Because the UI work load is longer than anyone wants to think about. We're dealing with mass-appeal items first, like in-game VOIP, Guild banks, Additional base UI, etc." http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102733517&pageNo=7&sid=1#132 |
| 08:32.06 | Punkie` | yeah haha |
| 08:32.06 | Neebler | I'm reserving that character name + guildname right now! "voip" |
| 08:32.12 | Neebler | hardy har |
| 08:32.21 | sylvanaar | Quan-Xi joins the group....you have been disconnected |
| 08:32.35 | Punkie` | some squeaky voice 'omg guyz imagine if chuck norris had a krol blade! lolol!' |
| 08:32.53 | kebinusan | After thats implemented next patch will be |
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| 08:33.06 | Punkie` | thinking about it |
| 08:33.17 | kebinusan | Well I wonder if they be recording voip conversations |
| 08:33.18 | Punkie` | VoIP would be quite bad |
| 08:33.27 | kebinusan | cause the potential for predator abuse would be quite high |
| 08:33.29 | Megalon | VoIP in cs just sucked ass |
| 08:33.37 | NightHawkTheSane | voip would be good as long as it was opt-in |
| 08:33.38 | Punkie` | you would get actual recorded advertisements for gold |
| 08:33.53 | sylvanaar | Punkie` exactly |
| 08:34.06 | Neebler | Does any other MMORPG have VoIP implimented in it right now? I'm guessing EQ1, they added soooo much to the game after I quit |
| 08:34.21 | sylvanaar | i think one does |
| 08:34.39 | Punkie` | anyway, can someone help me with this, how can I set a max dewdrop range of screenwidth+10 px? |
| 08:34.59 | Daemona | 6k if you want the total cost from switching from land to epic Kemayo |
| 08:35.07 | Daemona | hmm somehow my scroll locked ^^ |
| 08:35.23 | Megalon | Punkie`: GetWidth() from world frame? |
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| 08:36.16 | Punkie` | yeah, i get that |
| 08:36.21 | Punkie` | but how to add 10? :P |
| 08:36.44 | Megalon | GetWidth()+10? :X |
| 08:36.50 | Punkie` | yeah i thought that, but it looks stupid |
| 08:36.51 | Cryect | hard stuff |
| 08:36.58 | Megalon | don't know how to handle scaling things |
| 08:37.04 | Megalon | if that affects it |
| 08:37.25 | Punkie` | i won't be scaling |
| 08:37.32 | sylvanaar | cool RegexBuddy 3.0 beta |
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| 08:37.57 | Daemona | prat 35584 save to use again? |
| 08:38.07 | sylvanaar | works for me |
| 08:38.16 | Daemona | k :) |
| 08:38.19 | sylvanaar | Daemona let me know if you have a problem with it |
| 08:38.38 | Daemona | eu servers are still down |
| 08:38.49 | Daemona | just read there was trouble with one of the latest revs |
| 08:38.52 | sylvanaar | my OnEvent handler had the wrong signature |
| 08:38.57 | Sole | good evening |
| 08:39.07 | Daemona | give it a new pen then? ;) |
| 08:39.38 | Sole | so Ive been looking at doing some freelance programming for fun, and some of these people just fail at life |
| 08:39.54 | Megalon | :> |
| 08:39.59 | Sole | if you want somebody to do something for you, then take the time to explain wtf you want |
| 08:40.57 | sylvanaar | Daemona i added to the AceEvent docs http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceEvent-2.0#Example_5 |
| 08:42.36 | sylvanaar | Sole that is a job itself Systems Analysis |
| 08:43.14 | Sole | o_o |
| 08:44.03 | sylvanaar | Sole usually in freelance work you need to be able to perform that task - least I always had to - i charged them for the time too |
| 08:44.42 | [Ammo] | we always charge customers for analysis and design |
| 08:44.46 | sylvanaar | dont give free bids/proposals, make them pay for it |
| 08:45.09 | sylvanaar | exactly |
| 08:46.09 | Sole | yeah not planning to do it for free :P |
| 08:46.22 | Sole | in what situation would someone use RegisterAllEvents()? |
| 08:46.26 | Sole | just curious |
| 08:46.34 | ckknight | Sole: only in debugging |
| 08:46.44 | sylvanaar | when you dont know which events to register |
| 08:46.54 | Laric | is the cia hook coming back soon or? |
| 08:47.08 | Sole | makes sense |
| 08:48.01 | sylvanaar | if there is a better way to catch every event that the blizzard chat frames may register for im open to suggestions |
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| 08:48.31 | [Ammo] | check the framexml? |
| 08:48.59 | sylvanaar | addons can add events also |
| 08:49.39 | nymbia | why would they register the chatframe for those instead of registering them themselves and altering the chatframe? |
| 08:49.47 | [Ammo] | yeah I wonder |
| 08:57.09 | sylvanaar | um, cause thats how you do it properly, add a new chattype |
| 08:57.09 | sylvanaar | that way the chatframes respond to your event, and you appear on the menus |
| 08:57.09 | [Ammo] | but if it appears in the menu blizzard has a way to list events apparantly |
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| 08:57.10 | [Ammo] | maybe you should use that? |
| 08:57.10 | sylvanaar | maybe |
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| 08:57.14 | nymbia | hook ChatFrameX.RegisterEvent? |
| 08:57.14 | sylvanaar | ugh |
| 08:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | "What's the last thing you remember?" "My wife.." "That's sweet-" "..dying. My wife dying." |
| 08:57.17 | Sole | wtf? |
| 08:57.17 | sylvanaar | maybe i'll make a new addon so Prat doesnt get billed for the time, all i need is for each event - eventID=eventID+1 |
| 08:57.18 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: Maybe I'll write an addon called LoadStringExecutor |
| 08:57.19 | Roartindon | then I'll pass it all of the stuff from Aloft |
| 08:57.19 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 08:57.20 | Roartindon | And it'll get billed for all of Aloft! |
| 08:57.20 | Roartindon | WIN! |
| 08:57.20 | ckknight | Sole: Memento |
| 08:57.20 | Sole | ahh |
| 08:57.21 | Sole | pretty good movie imo |
| 08:57.21 | nymbia | Roartindon: rofl |
| 08:57.21 | ckknight | lol, Roartindon |
| 08:57.21 | sylvanaar | i wonder if i use a closure instead of a prat method if that will work |
| 08:57.22 | Megalon | Roartindon: ever stated that idea to the deadlyboosmod guys? :P |
| 08:57.22 | Roartindon | Megalon: Hahaha.. was going to make a commenta bout DBM |
| 08:57.22 | Roartindon | But I think we've already commented enough on it |
| 08:57.22 | Sole | comment about NECB then :P |
| 08:57.23 | Sole | its terrible as well |
| 08:57.23 | Megalon | i couldn't resist :< |
| 08:57.23 | Roartindon | sole: not dbm terrible I hope.... |
| 08:57.23 | Sole | maybe not THAT bad but its still pretty shocking |
| 08:57.43 | Sole | Im not exactly sure why the fuck it takes him a couple thousand lines of code to accomplish slightly more than I did with antagonist |
| 08:57.44 | nymbia | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6087.0 |
| 08:58.18 | Roartindon | ahh.. found it....... http://ace.pastey.net/8628 |
| 08:58.20 | Roartindon | what a gem |
| 08:58.43 | nymbia | Sole: lol, how big's antagonist? |
| 08:58.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: fucking good movie, you mean. :P |
| 08:58.55 | nymbia | Roartindon: hahaha |
| 08:59.05 | Sole | NightHawkTheSane: I havent seen it in years so I forgot :P |
| 08:59.16 | Sole | NightHawkTheSane: but I did download and watch Battle Royale thanks to you |
| 08:59.16 | NightHawkTheSane | you should see it again. |
| 08:59.18 | Sole | NightHawkTheSane: its fucking awesome |
| 08:59.34 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, what do I have to do with that? o_0 |
| 08:59.35 | Sole | nymbia: like 600 lines? |
| 08:59.45 | Sole | nymbia: excluding my aceopts table, and including commenting and all that |
| 09:00.04 | Sole | NightHawkTheSane: you recommended Battle Royale a couple days ago I think |
| 09:00.11 | nymbia | Sole: nice :) |
| 09:00.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: huh. okay. I have no recollection of that, but I forget a lot of things :) |
| 09:00.31 | Sole | nymbia: maybe its because I utilise libs :p |
| 09:00.40 | nymbia | afk converting all my addons to massive loadstring concats. |
| 09:00.57 | Sole | NightHawkTheSane: :P |
| 09:01.08 | Sole | I just dont understand the loadstring thing... |
| 09:01.16 | nymbia | Sole: but it's not like you get saved THAT many lines |
| 09:01.39 | Sole | nymbia: not really, just makes everything more streamlined and less of a headache |
| 09:02.03 | Sole | nymbia: NECB's files and folders are still using the CECB naming |
| 09:02.23 | Sole | back from when the original author maintained it and it was called CarnivalEnemyCastBar |
| 09:02.32 | nymbia | Sole: lol |
| 09:03.03 | Sole | I want to finish gladiator |
| 09:03.17 | Sole | was sitting in class today just drawing concepts of how I could display possible team members |
| 09:04.00 | Sole | hey why do the DBM guys use a loadstring anyway? |
| 09:04.13 | Megalon | loadstrings make the world go round |
| 09:04.16 | Sole | before I used Ace/Ace2 I never did that anyway |
| 09:04.24 | Sole | just registered the SlashCmdHandler |
| 09:04.33 | undu | well Sole, NECB does have quite a few improvements over Antagonist imo. Such as DR tracking, better CD tracker on opponents, etc. And he also have alot of other features that Antagonist does not have such as the mobrespawns, boss-abilites, etc. |
| 09:04.40 | nymbia | Sole: because they're bad at lua |
| 09:04.53 | Roartindon | sole: no good reason to do it that way |
| 09:05.03 | Sole | undu: thats why BigWigs exists :P |
| 09:05.05 | Roartindon | There are very very few places that I think loadstring is the 'right' function to use |
| 09:05.16 | Sole | whats the poitn of loadstring anyway? |
| 09:05.26 | syeren | nymbia :PPPPPPPPPPP? |
| 09:05.28 | Sole | cant you just declare a string for the same effect? |
| 09:05.31 | Roartindon | sole: precompiled code |
| 09:05.37 | Roartindon | sole: Aloft has a tag compiler |
| 09:05.43 | Roartindon | And DogTag adopted that approach |
| 09:05.43 | nymbia | syeren: ? |
| 09:05.48 | undu | Exactly, but your code comparing isn't valid unless you're only comparing the relevant features. But maybe you already did. I dunno. |
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| 09:06.29 | syeren | Quartz is amazing, but could you add a function to create a 20 second test bar? |
| 09:06.33 | Sole | Roartindon: I'll take a look at em, always learn better from code |
| 09:06.42 | Sole | Quartz is great btw nymb |
| 09:06.44 | syeren | OOoooh, no need. |
| 09:06.56 | nymbia | Sole: thanks :D |
| 09:06.59 | Roartindon | Sole: As a brief example, if you have a tag, eg. "[name] - [guild]" |
| 09:07.02 | Sole | undu: yea youre right, but his code is still bad :P |
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| 09:07.27 | Roartindon | The 'old' way that dogtag used and watchdog, etc was basically a string search and substitution at execution time |
| 09:07.46 | Roartindon | The newer approach in Aloft converts "[name] - [guild]" it to: |
| 09:07.56 | nymbia | syeren: lol ;) planning on adding test bars, anyway :) |
| 09:08.15 | Roartindon | return loadstring("return function(data) data.name..\" - \"..(data.guild or \"\") end")() |
| 09:08.26 | Daemona | hmmm can addons add ppl to the ignore list? and remove them on a timer base? |
| 09:08.38 | Sole | Daemona: should be able to |
| 09:08.41 | Roartindon | So that when the text needs to be updated, it's just called with tagMethod(data) .. where tagMethod is the generated function |
| 09:08.43 | Sole | Daemona: check the API |
| 09:08.47 | Silviu- | nymbia did u change something settings for Quartz are lost i think :P |
| 09:08.55 | Daemona | i am rather a user than a coder sole ;) |
| 09:09.13 | Silviu- | -something +some |
| 09:09.19 | nymbia | Silviu-: yeah |
| 09:09.22 | Silviu- | Ok |
| 09:09.23 | Silviu- | :) |
| 09:09.38 | nymbia | Silviu-: moved the player cast bar into a module, so settings for it were lost |
| 09:09.42 | Daemona | just out of curiosity i am wondering why spamsentry isnt syncing spam detection and just let you send a sync msg to tell other ppl in your guild to ignore yöadjgf for 10 minutes and then remove it again |
| 09:09.48 | Silviu- | Oky no problem :) |
| 09:09.57 | Sole | Roartindon: so Im guessing this method has a faster return time than the original? |
| 09:10.16 | Roartindon | sole: yeah, there's no longer any string parsing/manipulation at evaluation time |
| 09:10.36 | Roartindon | And you can support abritrarily complex syntax that is preprocessed.. |
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| 09:11.24 | Sole | hmm |
| 09:11.28 | Silviu- | Lol savedvars for Pitbull are almost 100 kb :)) |
| 09:11.38 | Mikk | Daemona: would there be any real benefit? |
| 09:12.08 | Mikk | If spamsentry blocked something, it apparently blocked it already .> |
| 09:12.38 | Mikk | Yeah, ok, this would be different if spammers were trying to be smart like mail spammers are |
| 09:12.41 | Daemona | dunno, kind of "lol your spam addon is too slow mr gold farmer" |
| 09:12.48 | Sole | Roartindon: Im still slightly confused but I think I get it, thanks |
| 09:12.57 | Megalon | Roartindon: just saw that you don't have a deDE local for the IsTotemTag: "^Totem " |
| 09:12.58 | Diao | don't they spam everyone at the same time anyway |
| 09:13.08 | Daemona | example: eu server came online like 20 minutes ago |
| 09:13.10 | Sole | as I take it, none of that code is even executed at execution time |
| 09:13.13 | Mikk | And, granted, there might be a point to it for manually reported spam |
| 09:13.14 | Roartindon | Megalon: commit one? :) |
| 09:13.18 | Sole | and only the data values are substituted in |
| 09:13.26 | Daemona | and over the course of 10 minutes 5 guildmates received the same add from the same char, not instantly |
| 09:13.30 | Megalon | em, svn noob :P |
| 09:13.38 | Roartindon | Sole: ah.. maybe I'll try and explain it this way. |
| 09:13.39 | Mikk | Diao: Well, no, you can only send at a few thousand chars per second |
| 09:13.43 | Roartindon | Imagine you're writing a damage meters addon. |
| 09:13.50 | Diao | i dunno, everytime i'm on vent everyone in my guild is like |
| 09:13.54 | Diao | "hey did you guys just get a gold spam" |
| 09:13.56 | Roartindon | You have options: "Show rank", "Show Name", "show pecentage", etc. |
| 09:13.56 | Diao | all at the same time |
| 09:14.02 | Sole | dont have to imagine, Ive got a half written one lying around :P |
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| 09:14.10 | Roartindon | And then you might have code that looks like: |
| 09:14.32 | Sole | string.sub("[rank]", data.rank) ? |
| 09:14.34 | Roartindon | if showRank then text = rank..": " |
| 09:14.35 | Roartindon | etc. |
| 09:14.36 | Roartindon | yes |
| 09:14.36 | Mikk | Diao: Would everytime you're on vent also coincide with everytime you'er raiding and in the same zone? |
| 09:14.42 | Roartindon | so instead, what you do is you create a tag system |
| 09:14.48 | Diao | no |
| 09:14.49 | Roartindon | so it becomes [rank] [name] |
| 09:14.57 | Diao | i'm always on vent :P |
| 09:14.59 | Roartindon | What Aloft does with this is it passes it into its tag compiler |
| 09:15.00 | Mikk | haha |
| 09:15.25 | Roartindon | So it becomes a specific function tailored to exactly what you want it to show |
| 09:15.44 | Roartindon | it's as good as if you wrote the method: function getText() return rank.." "..name end |
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| 09:16.05 | Roartindon | And it does this by generating the lua code for the function, then loadstring-ing it |
| 09:16.23 | Sole | hm |
| 09:17.27 | Sole | doesnt it still have to execute the code to sub the values in instead of the tags? |
| 09:17.50 | Roartindon | it has to execute code |
| 09:17.55 | Roartindon | but it's not substituting any tags |
| 09:18.18 | Roartindon | Once the tag is compiled, the result is a function tailored to that tag.. the tag itself is no longer needed |
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| 09:18.52 | Roartindon | there's no string.sub, or string.gsubs in the system at all |
| 09:19.46 | haste | that's what I do in oUF |
| 09:20.10 | haste | generate the function I would use to print out the text |
| 09:20.26 | Roartindon | yep, it's far better than doing string.sub each time you want to evaluate the text |
| 09:21.53 | nymbia | whatever, http://ace.pastey.net/8628 is a far better use of loadstring |
| 09:22.21 | Silviu- | nymbia tradeskill merge is no longer avaible ? |
| 09:22.40 | Silviu- | Or it have no option for it in config menu |
| 09:22.49 | nymbia | Silviu-: renamed the module's directory to Tradeskill |
| 09:23.00 | nymbia | Silviu-: probably just need to restart the game |
| 09:23.20 | Silviu- | I updated and then started the game :P |
| 09:23.32 | Silviu- | Btw, i use svn not wau |
| 09:23.33 | nymbia | hrm |
| 09:23.45 | nymbia | oh |
| 09:23.57 | nymbia | i might be dumb, lemme see |
| 09:24.08 | Silviu- | And i have 2 folders in my quartz atm |
| 09:24.12 | Silviu- | Tradeskill |
| 09:24.15 | Silviu- | TradeskillMerge |
| 09:24.16 | Silviu- | :P |
| 09:24.20 | nymbia | yup, definitely dumb |
| 09:24.30 | NightHawkTheSane | well anyone could have told you that ;) |
| 09:24.49 | Silviu- | :P |
| 09:25.04 | Silviu- | And yes u forgot to add it to toc |
| 09:25.05 | Silviu- | :P |
| 09:25.08 | nymbia | Silviu-: the second is to unpack overwriting the old one for WAU users, it'll go away in a few days |
| 09:25.14 | nymbia | yea fixed ;) |
| 09:25.30 | Silviu- | Oky :) |
| 09:25.37 | Silviu- | Should i update ? |
| 09:25.41 | nymbia | sure |
| 09:25.43 | Silviu- | No cia around ? |
| 09:25.43 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 09:25.46 | nymbia | it's just the toc change |
| 09:26.03 | CIA-23 | ow |
| 09:26.13 | Silviu- | Odd :P |
| 09:26.20 | nymbia | kael turned off the hook when cia was down |
| 09:26.29 | nymbia | then logged for the day |
| 09:26.30 | Silviu- | Oh :) |
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| 09:29.11 | Silviu- | Another question nymbia should all colours here be white ? like this ? http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot051607122841zv2.jpg |
| 09:29.37 | nymbia | Silviu-: no, no they shouldn't. |
| 09:29.49 | nymbia | Silviu-: hrm, try resetting your savedvars |
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| 09:29.53 | Silviu- | I just deleted my savedvars |
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| 09:29.57 | Silviu- | :P |
| 09:30.07 | Silviu- | I was trying to make a full new conf :) |
| 09:30.26 | Silviu- | In mirror are same |
| 09:30.28 | Silviu- | white |
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| 09:30.43 | nymbia | weird |
| 09:31.12 | Silviu- | *nod* |
| 09:31.36 | nymbia | still that way even after resetting the savedvars? |
| 09:31.56 | Silviu- | Yes this was after reseting them |
| 09:31.56 | Silviu- | :) |
| 09:32.34 | Silviu- | Btw Nargiddley is here ? when u type an number in any waterfall options u get an error :P |
| 09:33.08 | nymbia | did something in waterfall change recently? that'd explain the white boxes, too |
| 09:33.17 | Kinkx | nymbia - would it be possible for Quartz to show "Interrupted" on the Target castbar when you kick/counterspell whatever, or maybe even "Interrupted: <name of person that interrupted the spell>" ? :o |
| 09:33.18 | Silviu- | I`ll type it |
| 09:33.32 | Kinkx | Maybe a bit out of the scope of the addon I guess, I dunno |
| 09:33.46 | nymbia | Kinkx: definitely doable with a module :) |
| 09:33.57 | Kinkx | Coolio |
| 09:34.08 | Kinkx | :D |
| 09:34.08 | Nargiddley | Silviu-, whats the error ? |
| 09:34.14 | Silviu- | [2007/05/16 12:34:21-130-x1]: Waterfall-1.0-35340 (Waterfall-1.0):697: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 09:34.14 | Silviu- | Waterfall-1.0-35340 (Waterfall-1.0):2798: in function <...AddOns\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0.lua:2787> |
| 09:35.00 | Nargiddley | implemented the new step thing, but its all dry coding heh |
| 09:35.03 | Nargiddley | no wow atm |
| 09:35.16 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 09:35.29 | Nargiddley | and well, thats the first error report :P |
| 09:35.51 | Silviu- | u know what i mean ? |
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| 09:37.46 | Silviu- | http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot051607123648jq1.jpg |
| 09:37.47 | Silviu- | If i type there 240 or so |
| 09:37.47 | Silviu- | I get that error :) |
| 09:37.51 | Silviu- | Only works with slider |
| 09:37.52 | Nargiddley | k think i see the prob |
| 09:38.16 | Nargiddley | try that |
| 09:38.33 | Silviu- | Should i update ? ;) |
| 09:38.35 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 09:38.39 | Silviu- | Oky |
| 09:38.42 | Silviu- | One sec |
| 09:40.24 | Silviu- | Nargiddley working, thank u :P |
| 09:40.40 | Silviu- | And nymbia now colours are back :) |
| 09:41.02 | nymbia | nice :) |
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| 09:43.39 | evl | [Ammo]: rumors are about that you play on Kazzak |
| 09:45.52 | Megalon | he has to be a tough guy if he plays on kazzak :P |
| 09:48.33 | [Ammo] | evl: I do play on kazzak-eu |
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| 09:49.06 | evl | [Ammo]: We're 7-8 old lads transfering there from LB next week |
| 09:49.20 | [Ammo] | horde? |
| 09:49.24 | evl | No, alliance |
| 09:49.26 | [Ammo] | oh noes |
| 09:49.33 | evl | :( |
| 09:50.03 | evl | We're just looking for some semi-casual PVE action |
| 09:51.29 | [Ammo] | evl: http://www.booncontrol.com/ |
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| 09:53.04 | evl | [Ammo]: afaik it's rogue, feral, 2x priest, 1x warlock, 1x warrior, 1x mage and probably someone I forgot :P |
| 09:54.22 | Tim | can someone explain why i am getting this? http://ace.pastey.net/31862 |
| 09:54.30 | Silviu- | nymbia why on channeling spells, lagpart is at start ? :( |
| 09:55.55 | Diao | because it channels downward? o.O |
| 09:56.11 | Silviu- | :) |
| 09:56.27 | evl | [Ammo]: most are 25years+ and have been playing since US beta I guess. And we have IRL girl from Neijmegen or whats that place is called! |
| 09:56.29 | Diao | that way when it reaches the latency part you can cancel |
| 09:56.31 | Diao | and recast |
| 09:56.34 | Diao | i think.. |
| 09:56.43 | Sole | OMG IRL GURL |
| 09:56.53 | Sole | instant ginvite for all of you |
| 09:57.06 | Sole | to most guilds :P |
| 09:57.29 | evl | We suspect she's a man even after all these years |
| 09:57.45 | nymbia | haha |
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| 09:57.55 | Silviu- | Yes, but nothing i can see there :( look http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot051607125701pg5.jpg |
| 09:58.03 | nymbia | we had a guy in our guild who pretended to be female for about a year |
| 09:58.08 | Sole | lol |
| 09:58.15 | Sole | dont you use vent? |
| 09:58.26 | Silviu- | lol |
| 09:58.27 | Diao | "i don't have a microphone" |
| 09:58.28 | Silviu- | Only ? ;) |
| 09:58.30 | Diao | :p |
| 09:58.30 | Silviu- | Haha |
| 09:58.32 | evl | exactly :P |
| 09:58.36 | Sole | wow |
| 09:58.43 | Silviu- | We have one that never speaks too |
| 09:58.45 | nymbia | yeah, he kept coming up with excuses not to buy a mic |
| 09:58.46 | Sole | paypal her $20 to get one |
| 09:59.07 | Silviu- | But he don`t pretends he is a girl, only flames a lot |
| 09:59.12 | Silviu- | I guess he could be a small child ^^ |
| 09:59.14 | Silviu- | or so ;p |
| 09:59.17 | Sole | lol |
| 09:59.27 | Sole | we had a kid get on our vent |
| 09:59.30 | Sole | with a really high aussie voice |
| 09:59.32 | Sole | it was golden |
| 09:59.35 | Diao | Silviu-- your ss |
| 09:59.45 | Diao | when it reaches the red part move and recast? |
| 09:59.46 | Diao | i think |
| 09:59.47 | Sole | he was negotiating some deal with one of our guildies about some orbs or some shit |
| 09:59.50 | nymbia | we had some 12 year old kid come into our vent singing one time |
| 09:59.53 | nymbia | creepy |
| 10:00.02 | Sole | he was abused so bad within those 5 minutes |
| 10:00.09 | Silviu- | Diao, what i mean is that i can`t see the number there it goes togheter with my casttime and icon |
| 10:00.10 | Tim | can someone explain why i am getting this? http://ace.pastey.net/31862 |
| 10:00.10 | Silviu- | :) |
| 10:00.13 | Diao | oh |
| 10:00.26 | Sole | lol any time a girl comes on our vent shes immediately asked if he likes it in the butt |
| 10:00.32 | Diao | yeah it should shift the latency time over onto the bar i suppose |
| 10:00.34 | Sole | err she not he |
| 10:00.46 | Diao | try wow repair tim? |
| 10:00.56 | Sole | a new girl I mean, we've got like 2 in the guild that dont have to answer that anymore |
| 10:00.57 | Tim | hmm.. |
| 10:00.59 | Tim | i'm really confused. |
| 10:01.02 | Tim | xlvii is here too |
| 10:01.03 | Tim | which is me |
| 10:01.03 | Tim | ;p |
| 10:01.09 | Diao | your guild is pretty rough sole lol |
| 10:01.15 | Sole | lol you have no idea |
| 10:01.17 | Diao | we have like 10 girls who talk on vent all the time |
| 10:01.21 | xlvii | lol |
| 10:01.21 | xlvii | :D |
| 10:01.40 | Sole | more than half the conversations on our vent consist of abusing each other |
| 10:01.40 | xlvii | oopz. |
| 10:01.41 | xlvii | that was me. |
| 10:01.43 | Diao | xlvii try running repair.exe? |
| 10:01.48 | Diao | in your wow folder |
| 10:01.55 | Silviu- | I`ll poke nymbia for that maybe he haves an solution :P |
| 10:02.09 | nymbia | Silviu-: what's up? |
| 10:02.15 | Diao | do you set your cast time on left side by default or is that just for channeled? |
| 10:02.15 | Silviu- | Look at screen :P |
| 10:02.19 | xlvii | doesn't it delete addons? |
| 10:02.19 | xlvii | ;o |
| 10:02.30 | Diao | not if you uncheck |
| 10:02.33 | Sole | I guess thats what happens when you get a bunch of assholes together, make them compete and put them on a server known for its 'friendliness' |
| 10:02.39 | Silviu- | On fefault is so, no option for channeled |
| 10:02.39 | Diao | reset 3rd party custom UI |
| 10:02.42 | Diao | ah |
| 10:02.45 | nymbia | Silviu-: oh, the text is covering the other text on the left side? |
| 10:02.46 | Silviu- | Yes that would be an ideea :) |
| 10:02.48 | Diao | i have mine on the right so it doesn't overlap |
| 10:02.50 | Silviu- | Yes |
| 10:02.50 | Silviu- | :) |
| 10:02.54 | Silviu- | On channeling |
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| 10:03.15 | nymbia | Silviu-: ok. i've been meaning to add stuff to tweak the y offset of those texts. |
| 10:03.18 | Diao | try just check reset wow cache data |
| 10:03.21 | Diao | and see if that fixes it |
| 10:03.24 | Diao | leave the others unchecked |
| 10:03.34 | Silviu- | Super :) |
| 10:03.44 | nymbia | Silviu-: it's not higher than it is on the other side for some reason, is it? |
| 10:04.18 | Silviu- | No it`s same |
| 10:04.24 | nymbia | ok |
| 10:04.38 | Silviu- | nymbia got an ideea |
| 10:04.44 | nymbia | i'll probably add that stuff tomorrow |
| 10:04.48 | nymbia | Silviu-: hit me |
| 10:05.29 | Silviu- | Time text position i placed it left when casts, maybe an option to just go right when channeling a,d back left when normal casts ? |
| 10:05.40 | Silviu- | and* |
| 10:06.08 | nymbia | hrm, good idea |
| 10:06.11 | Silviu- | Is that possible ? ;) |
| 10:06.48 | nymbia | sure |
| 10:06.53 | Silviu- | Oky, i`m glad :) |
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| 10:08.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Sole - heh, sounds like Blackhand. |
| 10:08.24 | omega_ | < |
| 10:08.31 | omega_ | ops |
| 10:08.32 | Sole | ZealotOnAStick: Blackrock actually :P |
| 10:08.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah. Our self-styled PvP nemeses of old. |
| 10:09.04 | Sole | :) |
| 10:09.10 | Diao | wait sole you play on US-BR? |
| 10:09.14 | Sole | ya |
| 10:09.17 | Diao | oh |
| 10:09.18 | Sole | from day 1 |
| 10:09.23 | Diao | ah |
| 10:09.24 | Sole | and proud of it! rawr |
| 10:09.26 | ZealotOnAStick | US Blackhand Horde here, from day 1. |
| 10:09.28 | Diao | lol |
| 10:09.38 | Sole | blackrock > blackhand |
| 10:09.39 | Sole | discuss |
| 10:09.41 | Diao | my guild xferred to BR a bit ago |
| 10:09.41 | Diao | :x |
| 10:09.47 | Sole | what guild? |
| 10:09.47 | nymbia | my day 1 server could beat up your day 1 server |
| 10:09.48 | Diao | cause our server died completely |
| 10:09.56 | Sole | lol nymb |
| 10:09.59 | Diao | clockwork |
| 10:10.02 | Diao | small guild :P |
| 10:10.07 | Sole | Alliance or horde? |
| 10:10.10 | Diao | horde |
| 10:10.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Which Day 1 server you on Nymbia? Or was that just mocking Sole and I? |
| 10:10.15 | Sole | I think they renamed themselves |
| 10:10.26 | Sole | Im glad I rolled on blackrock |
| 10:10.32 | liquiem | any infos about unitframes having some issues on ptr? in combat, targettarget doesnt work if you havent had the frame up before combat, the same with target frame |
| 10:10.35 | Sole | Ive got some mighty fine people to play with |
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| 10:10.48 | Diao | check out |
| 10:10.51 | Diao | the server ratio |
| 10:10.54 | Diao | of the server we came from |
| 10:10.55 | Diao | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=782&factionid=-1&minlevel=70&maxlevel=70&servertypeid=2 |
| 10:10.55 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: illidan |
| 10:11.00 | Sole | ahh |
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| 10:11.05 | Sole | I have respect for the illidan guys |
| 10:11.08 | Sole | Team Ice is good |
| 10:11.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh. You're in our battlegroup I think? |
| 10:11.16 | Sole | THE HUKHUKHUKHUKHUKS rawr |
| 10:11.20 | nymbia | yup |
| 10:11.34 | ZealotOnAStick | I wonder if we've ever killed one another in a BG. |
| 10:11.36 | nymbia | tony talks a lot of shit though |
| 10:11.45 | nymbia | lol |
| 10:11.45 | Sole | I wish my guild would stop raiding and start full time pvp |
| 10:11.47 | Diao | Total Alliance: 84 - 6% |
| 10:11.50 | Diao | gotta love that |
| 10:11.53 | Sole | lol diao |
| 10:11.54 | Megalon | Diao: 52% bloodelf, nice :x |
| 10:12.06 | nymbia | lol Diao |
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| 10:12.34 | Sole | my guild's best 5 would probly rival power trip/zerg it down if they went full time pvp =\ |
| 10:12.37 | Sole | damn pve bitches |
| 10:12.53 | Sole | Im still sad that the zerg it down guys rerolled from BR to tich |
| 10:13.02 | Sole | I miss Panda :( |
| 10:13.26 | Sole | none of you probly know who Im talking about |
| 10:13.33 | nymbia | i know i don't! |
| 10:13.36 | Kirkburn | Diao, now come on, does that not show just how inaccurate the census stuff is? |
| 10:13.46 | Diao | well kirkburn |
| 10:13.48 | Diao | put it this way |
| 10:13.56 | nymbia | the amount of history in the day 1 servers is pretty crazy, though... |
| 10:14.01 | Sole | yeah |
| 10:14.01 | Diao | last week i was in lfg for shadow lab, heroic ramparts, heroic furnace |
| 10:14.04 | Diao | on horde side |
| 10:14.10 | Diao | i spent 8 hours in lfg |
| 10:14.12 | Diao | no groups |
| 10:14.14 | Sole | blackrock has so much drama on it |
| 10:14.20 | Sole | I know otherguy |
| 10:14.30 | Diao | otherguy is a mage? |
| 10:14.34 | nymbia | yup |
| 10:14.38 | Diao | sorrow hill i think |
| 10:14.40 | Diao | iirc |
| 10:14.53 | Diao | serenity now is the guild that destroyed an ingame funeral or something wasn't it |
| 10:14.54 | nymbia | i'm in one of those videos, lagging out and missing cone of colds :( |
| 10:15.01 | nymbia | Diao: yup lol |
| 10:15.36 | Sole | haha the in game funeral was hilarious |
| 10:15.45 | Sole | btw Illidan isnt in BG9 |
| 10:15.48 | ashai|hc | made a good vid that :P |
| 10:15.52 | Diao | i played on arthas until transfers opened |
| 10:15.53 | nymbia | i wonder if otherguy's been arenaing, actually. always see him by the battlemasters |
| 10:15.55 | Diao | and everyone left |
| 10:15.58 | Diao | to mal'ganis |
| 10:17.50 | Sole | I remember the ammount of drama on blackrock forums when my guild got the horde first nefarion kill |
| 10:18.07 | Sole | there were 3 other guilds who claimed to be the best |
| 10:18.10 | nymbia | hahaha |
| 10:18.17 | Sole | and one of them trashtalked like mad |
| 10:18.30 | nymbia | i stay away from the realm forums these days |
| 10:18.49 | Sole | they swalled a pair of testicles when they saw the nef head go up |
| 10:18.54 | Sole | the trashtalkers didnt have shit to say |
| 10:19.02 | Sole | coz they were still stuck on chrom |
| 10:19.08 | nymbia | since illidan's are still mostly filled with 'i heer u guyz r bomb funeralz? wots ur bild n ui?" |
| 10:19.17 | Sole | haha |
| 10:19.36 | Fisker- | Boubouille |
| 10:19.38 | nymbia | chrommaggus is hard, lemme tell ya ;) |
| 10:19.41 | Fisker- | stop posting faking screenshots! |
| 10:19.47 | Sole | blackrock forums are mainly "hey guys Id like to xfer here with my buddies!" "BLACKROCK IS FULL GTFO!!!!!!~!!!" |
| 10:19.55 | nymbia | haha seriously |
| 10:20.00 | Sole | I dunno, we found chrom pretty easy |
| 10:20.03 | ZealotOnAStick | I remmeber when Blackhand was like that. |
| 10:20.09 | Sole | we spent a month on vael coz we're not the farming time |
| 10:20.13 | Sole | we took a while getting our fr gear |
| 10:20.16 | Sole | then after we killed him |
| 10:20.19 | nymbia | yup, we killed chrom our second night of attempts |
| 10:20.21 | Diao | o_O |
| 10:20.24 | Diao | didn't use your rag gear? |
| 10:20.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Before phase 2 retrofits of the servers. 9 minute surprise lag spurts in naxx. |
| 10:20.53 | Sole | got broodlord 2nd attempt, 3 dragons came down in a few nights, firemaw was a bitch, chrom came down in the first night, then nef took 2-3 weeks of attempts |
| 10:20.57 | Sole | our rag gear wasnt enough |
| 10:21.03 | Sole | to be honest we didnt get much FR for rag either |
| 10:21.08 | Diao | lol |
| 10:21.17 | Sole | we just said fuck it and killed him with like 150-200 fr |
| 10:21.33 | nymbia | ebonroc held us up a couple weeks |
| 10:21.33 | Sole | we had a LOT of 3% , 2% and 1% vael wipes |
| 10:21.44 | nymbia | not enough passable tanks |
| 10:21.45 | Sole | by a lot I mean enough to shove needles up your dick |
| 10:21.50 | Sole | ebonroc...o_O |
| 10:21.56 | nymbia | yeah i know |
| 10:21.57 | nymbia | lol |
| 10:21.58 | Sole | not gonna lie, we got him the first time we pulled him |
| 10:22.05 | nymbia | we wrecked the rest of the instance |
| 10:22.09 | nymbia | but ebonroc.. |
| 10:22.10 | Fisker- | we probably would've too |
| 10:22.23 | Fisker- | we were like 20 people left in the raid (it was late) and we decided to try ebonroc |
| 10:22.25 | Diao | anyway |
| 10:22.29 | Diao | afk sleep, almost 4am :p |
| 10:22.31 | nymbia | at least we didnt lose to flamegor ;) |
| 10:22.34 | Sole | lol |
| 10:22.49 | Fisker- | we got him down ot like 70% or something when we lost tanks rotating the healing thingy |
| 10:22.54 | theoddone33 | I attempted razorgore 3 times and never got to see the rest of BWL :( |
| 10:23.05 | theoddone33 | I'm hoping I can get some people to run me through when my paladin hits 60 |
| 10:23.07 | Sole | < pioneered bwl rawr |
| 10:23.20 | Fisker- | <-bwl itself |
| 10:23.28 | nymbia | bwl was a good instance |
| 10:23.30 | Sole | yeah |
| 10:23.32 | Sole | I liked it |
| 10:23.36 | Sole | I disliked AQ |
| 10:23.42 | Sole | my guild got to huhuran in 3 days I think |
| 10:23.46 | Sole | and we realised it was another vael |
| 10:23.47 | nymbia | didn't everyone dislike aq? |
| 10:23.49 | theoddone33 | I didn't really care about missing aq40 but I really wanted to see naxx |
| 10:24.00 | Sole | and half the guys said 'fuck this Im not grinding another resist set' |
| 10:24.21 | theoddone33 | heh, I grinded the NR in under a week so I could app with some raiding guild |
| 10:24.22 | Sole | I went back to naxx at 70 |
| 10:24.26 | theoddone33 | they wanted 200 min before you could app |
| 10:24.26 | Sole | domed it all the way ot saph |
| 10:24.30 | theoddone33 | almost killed me |
| 10:24.35 | Sole | lol |
| 10:24.44 | Sole | well to be honest |
| 10:24.44 | nymbia | we did huhu pretty quick, emps stopped us for at least a month though |
| 10:24.54 | Sole | after 3 months my guild reformed |
| 10:24.56 | Sole | under a new leader |
| 10:25.09 | Sole | and they went from MC to clearing AQ in about 5 weeks |
| 10:25.22 | Sole | then they caught up and surpassed the top horde guild...again |
| 10:25.35 | Sole | I wasnt part of that though, Ive had enough raiding |
| 10:26.13 | ZealotOnAStick | I miss lock-tanking the caster emp. |
| 10:26.17 | ZealotOnAStick | That was fun. |
| 10:26.17 | theoddone33 | the last high end raiding guild on my server is rerolling |
| 10:26.25 | theoddone33 | so no more horde side raiding |
| 10:26.35 | Sole | who has heard of Nurfed here? |
| 10:26.53 | theoddone33 | everyone? |
| 10:26.56 | nymbia | probably more of the ui than the guild, but.. |
| 10:26.59 | nymbia | ;) |
| 10:27.03 | Sole | yeah theyre on blackrock |
| 10:27.11 | Sole | good pvp practise I'll tell ya that |
| 10:27.23 | theoddone33 | they were in my battlegroup for a bit |
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| 10:27.33 | Sole | yeah they transfered to br a couple months back |
| 10:27.37 | theoddone33 | one of the better alliance teams scheduled some matches against them and got schooled |
| 10:27.41 | theoddone33 | yeah they were on dethecus |
| 10:27.52 | theoddone33 | ... archimonde before that |
| 10:28.02 | theoddone33 | go go rotating guild |
| 10:28.04 | Industrial | hmmm dethecus |
| 10:28.14 | Industrial | makes me wanna reenable my US account |
| 10:28.15 | Kinkx | Doesn't Indalamar their GM work for Blizzard now? |
| 10:28.18 | ashai|hc | nax was meh |
| 10:28.26 | ashai|hc | some nice fights but well hard work |
| 10:28.47 | theoddone33 | I tried to stealth to a boss at 60 |
| 10:28.48 | theoddone33 | didn't work |
| 10:28.56 | theoddone33 | so I can't say I've seen much of naxx :( |
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| 10:32.19 | Kinkx | Meh, every class should get a 1 sec GCD, dunno why only rogues got that lucky |
| 10:32.39 | Punkie` | yay, since i couldnt find the version of skinner that only had top and bottom frames, i made my own |
| 10:32.42 | ashai|hc | rogues still have to wait for energy |
| 10:32.49 | Sole | doesnt matter too much for rogues |
| 10:33.03 | Sole | theres only so much we can do with a max potential energy of 120 |
| 10:33.12 | ashai|hc | yup |
| 10:33.19 | Kinkx | Hmm.. I guess thats true |
| 10:33.19 | Sole | holy shit I backstab 0.5seconds earlier |
| 10:33.27 | Sole | still gotta wait 6 sec for the energy to return |
| 10:34.01 | theoddone33 | oh no, burning 25 energy on a finisher |
| 10:34.05 | theoddone33 | now I have to wait even longer to backstab again |
| 10:34.20 | theoddone33 | energy is a fun mechanic |
| 10:34.22 | theoddone33 | I like it |
| 10:34.48 | Sole | yeah its kinda cool |
| 10:34.50 | xlvii | who ever suggested that i use the repair tool, i love you :D |
| 10:34.57 | xlvii | it fixed thep roblem |
| 10:35.02 | xlvii | and makes my wow load super fast now. |
| 10:35.08 | Sole | I wish theyd help rogues in 5v5 though |
| 10:35.15 | Punkie` | can I pretend it was me xlvii? :D |
| 10:35.26 | xlvii | it was diao |
| 10:35.27 | xlvii | but sure. |
| 10:35.28 | xlvii | :D |
| 10:35.28 | theoddone33 | yeah from what I've heard they're pretty weak |
| 10:35.35 | theoddone33 | I didn't actually get that far |
| 10:35.56 | theoddone33 | couldn't put together a 5v5 team that wasn't content with losing 10 games a week |
| 10:37.48 | ashai|hc | meh |
| 10:38.21 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.new#new |
| 10:39.15 | ashai|hc | anyone got any screens of pitbull? |
| 10:39.33 | theoddone33 | hmm |
| 10:39.39 | Industrial | its got bars with text on it |
| 10:39.40 | theoddone33 | https://home.comcast.net/~rdkampen/BeneaUI.jpg what's that button mod? |
| 10:39.43 | Industrial | and you can make your own layout |
| 10:40.04 | Industrial | bartender3 with cycircled |
| 10:40.33 | Industrial | or any other barmod that cycircled supports |
| 10:41.17 | ZealotOnAStick | probably either BT3 or Bongos, with cyCircled. The button look is mostly cyCircled. |
| 10:41.19 | ashai|hc | I cant use grid, it does my head in :P |
| 10:41.22 | theoddone33 | people with better looking UIs than me make me sad |
| 10:41.25 | ZealotOnAStick | That's a fairly nifty layout on the UI, though. |
| 10:41.30 | theoddone33 | that one's quite nice |
| 10:42.50 | Industrial | would hate to be a meelee class in pve |
| 10:43.04 | Industrial | you are crawling up big bad monsters' butts all the time |
| 10:43.04 | Kinkx | Industrial - Nice, only 11.96 UI mem :o |
| 10:43.10 | Kinkx | I log in with 35mb >< |
| 10:43.27 | Industrial | well I have far less functionality (I hope) |
| 10:43.52 | evl | Industrial: Famous Last Rogue words: "What the hell, Chromaggus has no anus!" |
| 10:44.14 | Industrial | unfortunately im leveling a rogue |
| 10:44.15 | Industrial | :P |
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| 10:44.23 | Industrial | fortunately im a pvp person \o/ |
| 10:44.30 | smoke_ | hey guys, if i increase the memory used by my ui will that lower my fps? |
| 10:44.37 | smoke_ | or has nothing to do w/ that? |
| 10:44.41 | Industrial | no |
| 10:45.08 | theoddone33 | in not too much longer... making cool looking WoW UIs will be more fun than playing the game |
| 10:45.14 | Industrial | it might if an addon uses dirty code practises |
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| 10:45.25 | Industrial | theoddone33: welcome to my life :o |
| 10:45.30 | Industrial | I have no char above 37 |
| 10:45.31 | Industrial | lmao |
| 10:45.34 | theoddone33 | ouch |
| 10:45.37 | Industrial | and play since 05 |
| 10:45.40 | xlvii | i love making uis |
| 10:45.41 | xlvii | :D |
| 10:45.46 | theoddone33 | I really like UIs |
| 10:45.47 | Industrial | on the other hand ive had over 50 chars |
| 10:45.50 | theoddone33 | but I suck at making things pretty |
| 10:45.52 | evl | I'm thinking about going back to default UI soon :P |
| 10:46.07 | theoddone33 | I've got what I think could very well be the best rogue control scheme out there |
| 10:46.15 | Industrial | i cant stand some things about the default UI. THats why i make addons to just improve that. Chat for example |
| 10:47.22 | Tornhoof | actually the only thing which is still default in my ui is the chat window ;) |
| 10:47.25 | xlvii | i can't decide whether to put more money into my rogue |
| 10:47.28 | xlvii | or level my paladin |
| 10:47.33 | theoddone33 | man it's almost 4am and I'm gonna log into WoW and play with UI instead of going to sleep :( |
| 10:47.37 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 10:47.41 | xlvii | leveling a paladin is super boring, but it reaps a decent reward |
| 10:47.42 | Industrial | hehe |
| 10:47.48 | Kinkx | Industrial - whats "Observation"? |
| 10:48.20 | Industrial | its haste 's addon that tells you your xp to go every kill in the errors frame in the middle of the screen |
| 10:48.32 | Boubouille | Fisker- : you suck. |
| 10:48.34 | Industrial | but im about to replace it ... _now_. |
| 10:48.42 | xlvii | hmmm.. |
| 10:48.50 | xlvii | does anyone know a way i can modify bars for different addons? |
| 10:48.51 | Industrial | zExperience |
| 10:48.52 | Industrial | o/ |
| 10:48.54 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 10:49.00 | Kinkx | Okie :) |
| 10:49.00 | xlvii | so all of my ui looks the same? |
| 10:49.25 | syeren | That priest UI that linked is ugly as hell >_> |
| 10:49.45 | xlvii | let me rephrase |
| 10:50.01 | ashai|hc | mine's so messy :S |
| 10:50.10 | xlvii | does anyone know how i could 'hack' addons (non-ace ones, mostly) in order to make all my bars use the same texture? |
| 10:50.27 | ashai|hc | I can never find a good place for chronometer :P |
| 10:50.32 | Industrial | xlvii: figure out hoe they work one by one and write your own addon with dependancies of all the other addons so it loads after |
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| 10:50.45 | Industrial | i guess :> |
| 10:50.50 | xlvii | i have no experience with lua ;o |
| 10:51.05 | Industrial | well then you cant hack it |
| 10:51.08 | Industrial | =D |
| 10:51.12 | ZealotOnAStick | xlvii: which addons? |
| 10:51.19 | xlvii | sw_stats |
| 10:51.23 | xlvii | ktmthreat |
| 10:51.26 | theoddone33 | you guys have opinions on sct vs blizzard builtin sct? |
| 10:51.27 | ZealotOnAStick | I've hacked up IceHud, KTM, SWStats to all have LiteStep |
| 10:51.47 | ZealotOnAStick | SW is pretty easy, add a numbered texture to it. |
| 10:51.48 | xlvii | litestep? |
| 10:51.53 | Kinkx | MSBT > SCT > Blizzard imo |
| 10:52.13 | Industrial | I use msbt |
| 10:52.28 | Industrial | dont need a combatlog either |
| 10:52.42 | xlvii | i hate having a combat log now |
| 10:52.44 | xlvii | after using sct |
| 10:52.48 | ZealotOnAStick | KTM there's one file in newui - raidtable.lua that you replace ui-statusbar with the path to whatever status bar texture you want (\\Addons\\SharedMedia\\Statusbar\\LiteStep - for example) |
| 10:52.50 | Silviu- | xlvii |
| 10:52.52 | Silviu- | Forum |
| 10:53.06 | Industrial | I have MSBT so that the text pops out of the unitframes portraits |
| 10:53.10 | xlvii | silviu-, i'm confused |
| 10:53.11 | xlvii | ;p |
| 10:53.12 | Industrial | wich are located under my player |
| 10:53.15 | Silviu- | Wait |
| 10:53.16 | Silviu- | :) |
| 10:53.52 | Silviu- | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4215.0 |
| 10:53.58 | Silviu- | I explained here ;) |
| 10:54.20 | xlvii | silviu-, thank you |
| 10:54.55 | Sole | nymbia: hai ho |
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| 10:55.24 | Silviu- | Well only for ktm and dmm |
| 10:55.38 | Matrix110 | wtb the LoD system changed so you can have LoD parts inside the actual Addon |
| 10:55.43 | nymbia | Sole: sup |
| 10:56.07 | Sole | nymbia: displaying possible team mates in gladiator |
| 10:56.14 | Sole | nymbia: I figure maybe create 9 icons |
| 10:56.18 | Sole | nymbia: at the bottom fo the team info box |
| 10:56.25 | Industrial | Matrix110: you can make stuff not load IE creating tables by putting it in a function that returns the created table. |
| 10:56.29 | Sole | nymbia: with the class icons of the possible team members |
| 10:56.32 | nymbia | Sole: that would be hot |
| 10:56.41 | Sole | nymbia: alright |
| 10:56.42 | Industrial | Matrix110: the function will be there but the table only when the function gets called |
| 10:56.43 | ZealotOnAStick | I think what I figured out was that SWS dynamically loaded textures based on the numbered textures in one directory - I just renamed a copy of LiteStep (in my case) to like Texture14 or whatever and put it in there. |
| 10:56.51 | Sole | nymbia: I'll think about adding a text based version for lower mem usage later on |
| 10:56.59 | Matrix110 | well Industrial i mean so we the number of folders can be cut down a bit:P |
| 10:57.00 | Sole | nymbia: actually 9 icons shouldnt be that bad on mem huh? |
| 10:57.06 | ZealotOnAStick | Then after a restart of the game, it's selectable with the slider. I don't -think- I've modified anything directly in lua for it. |
| 10:57.07 | nymbia | Sole: naw |
| 10:57.08 | Industrial | Matrix110: screw that : |
| 10:57.11 | Industrial | :| |
| 10:57.12 | Sole | nymbia: k |
| 10:57.14 | Matrix110 | 300+ Addon Folders gets kinda nasty^^ |
| 10:57.19 | nymbia | Sole: especially not compared to all that data ;) |
| 10:57.21 | Industrial | (I say what I think, but im dutch) |
| 10:57.25 | Sole | nymbia: :P |
| 10:57.37 | Sole | I say what I think |
| 10:57.43 | Sole | today I got told I come off as a negative person |
| 10:57.47 | Sole | I said fuck yo crew and walked off |
| 10:57.48 | Industrial | Matrix110: well the technology isnt the problem then :E |
| 10:58.01 | Sole | ok I didnt say THAT |
| 10:59.43 | nymbia | lol |
| 11:00.07 | Industrial | hm I should use that excuse more often |
| 11:00.22 | Industrial | "Yeah I say what I think, but I'm Dutch" |
| 11:00.44 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 11:00.52 | theoddone33 | i wonder how one gets their memory usage so low |
| 11:00.59 | theoddone33 | 11M is really good |
| 11:01.12 | Industrial | im only using the addons listed there |
| 11:01.27 | Matrix110 | Blizzard UI uses 9 for me already |
| 11:01.31 | Industrial | yes |
| 11:01.42 | Silviu- | I`m at 20 |
| 11:01.54 | renchap | 37, 47 with auctioneer :/ |
| 11:02.05 | Matrix110 | 32->50 with Auctioneer |
| 11:02.06 | Silviu- | goes to 25 when i open Lightheaded :) |
| 11:02.09 | Silviu- | For my twink |
| 11:02.23 | Silviu- | And 500 kb / increase when i first start it lol |
| 11:02.56 | clad|sleep | its a big table :P |
| 11:03.12 | Silviu- | :P |
| 11:03.17 | nymbia | one would hope ;) |
| 11:03.17 | Silviu- | Yeah ;) |
| 11:03.18 | Sole | Tattle is a big table :P |
| 11:03.29 | nymbia | that thing's a beast. |
| 11:03.59 | Sole | hey this should work in a for loop, right? f.teamicon..i = icon |
| 11:04.00 | xlvii | mmm.. |
| 11:04.00 | Silviu- | clad|sleep i noticed also that quests with more comments when it`s selected and close/open questlog again causes big increase ;) |
| 11:04.05 | xlvii | i'm trying to cut down on addon usage :D |
| 11:04.13 | nymbia | Sole: yeah |
| 11:04.15 | Sole | or will I have to do f['teamicon'..i] = icon? |
| 11:04.21 | Sole | ok, figured |
| 11:04.22 | clad|sleep | aye, it has to decompress the comments |
| 11:04.22 | nymbia | Sole: er yeah that |
| 11:04.29 | Sole | the 2nd one? |
| 11:04.30 | Fisker- | over 9000 with auctioneer |
| 11:04.36 | Industrial | remove all quests you cant possibly have (class quests, level 30 quests and above if you are level 40, etc.) |
| 11:04.38 | nymbia | Sole: yeah, second one |
| 11:04.41 | clad|work | if they weren't compressed your in-game usage would be closer to 7-8 megs |
| 11:04.43 | Industrial | in lightheaded |
| 11:04.46 | Sole | inconvinient :( |
| 11:04.48 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 11:05.00 | Silviu- | :)) |
| 11:05.05 | clad|work | i'm gonna try to split the database up a bit more |
| 11:05.07 | clad|work | by level ranges |
| 11:05.10 | clad|work | or something |
| 11:05.12 | clad|work | just haven't had a chance |
| 11:05.12 | Industrial | clad|work: :-) |
| 11:05.33 | Silviu- | Ah, and u promissed u update it every week ! |
| 11:05.33 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 11:06.05 | clad|work | I update it bi-weekly |
| 11:06.07 | clad|work | at least |
| 11:06.30 | Silviu- | Hmm |
| 11:06.36 | Silviu- | I never saw a new version o.O |
| 11:06.56 | clad|work | mark it as a favorite |
| 11:06.57 | clad|work | you'll get emails |
| 11:07.10 | Silviu- | on wowi |
| 11:07.10 | Silviu- | ? |
| 11:07.13 | clad|work | yes |
| 11:08.07 | Silviu- | Last Modified: 05-10-2007 |
| 11:08.09 | Silviu- | 1 month :P |
| 11:08.27 | Matrix110 | that was 11 days ago? |
| 11:08.41 | Silviu- | Oh |
| 11:08.44 | Matrix110 | erm less |
| 11:08.44 | Silviu- | 5 |
| 11:08.48 | Silviu- | 6 |
| 11:08.55 | Silviu- | Hmm i`m sleepy still :) |
| 11:09.01 | Matrix110 | stupid US way to display dates-.- |
| 11:09.17 | Matrix110 | wtb worldwide system for measurement and such things |
| 11:09.41 | Sole | agreed |
| 11:09.44 | Sole | metric system kgo |
| 11:09.59 | Sole | american measurements are just weird |
| 11:10.03 | Sole | A FOOT |
| 11:10.05 | Fisker- | it's called the ISO |
| 11:10.11 | Sole | We have different sized feet! |
| 11:10.14 | Fisker- | america just doesn't give a shit about it |
| 11:10.19 | Sole | my foot can be bigger than your foot! |
| 11:10.48 | Matrix110 | well atleast some US institutes are using the metric system now |
| 11:10.52 | Matrix110 | maybe it helps^^ |
| 11:11.57 | Sole | nymbia: are you using latest gladiator? |
| 11:12.02 | nymbia | Sole: yeah |
| 11:12.27 | wobin | >< |
| 11:12.34 | Sole | nymbia: you like the announce? |
| 11:12.34 | wobin | Sometimes the Chaser can be funny |
| 11:12.42 | wobin | Other times, they're just painful =P |
| 11:12.46 | Fisker- | i fap'd |
| 11:12.58 | Sole | to what fisker? |
| 11:13.04 | nymbia | Sole: yeah, it's handy :) |
| 11:13.15 | Sole | nymbia: good to hear |
| 11:14.10 | Fisker- | to this |
| 11:14.54 | Sole | this irc chat? |
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| 11:15.28 | Fisker- | yup |
| 11:15.37 | Fisker- | if it exists i fap to it? |
| 11:16.03 | Industrial | yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss |
| 11:16.06 | Industrial | this is hard, how? |
| 11:16.58 | Sole | its all backwards |
| 11:17.06 | nymbia | seconds first imo |
| 11:17.25 | Sole | dd-yyyy-mm imo |
| 11:18.04 | Industrial | :| |
| 11:18.04 | theoddone33 | this ui screenshots thread is nice |
| 11:18.10 | theoddone33 | because half of the posts are people asking what some mod is |
| 11:18.16 | Industrial | yarly, start at 1 |
| 11:18.29 | nymbia | mm:yyyy ''' ss/dd-hh--mm |
| 11:18.46 | Fisker- | "today" |
| 11:18.48 | Fisker- | imo |
| 11:18.58 | Fisker- | and if not "today" then "old news" |
| 11:20.34 | xlvii | wobin, omfg. |
| 11:20.37 | xlvii | i forget the chaser |
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| 11:20.38 | xlvii | ;[ |
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| 11:25.58 | yacoob | theoddone33, can you throw url of this thread at me? :> |
| 11:26.05 | sbu | morning |
| 11:26.13 | theoddone33 | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.1540 |
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| 11:28.54 | Neebler | Frame alpha now propagates in the same way as scale (though is clamped between 0 and 1 on each object). This means you can cleanly fade the whole UI or specific frame assemblies. |
| 11:28.58 | Neebler | Schwing |
| 11:29.29 | wobin | xlvii: podcast ftw =) |
| 11:29.42 | wobin | www.abc.com.au/thechaser |
| 11:29.45 | wobin | I think? |
| 11:30.10 | yacoob | theoddone33, thanks. |
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| 12:30.53 | Kirkburn | Anyone know of a way to stop Cartographer showing the pink circle? |
| 12:31.24 | Awaa | pink circle? |
| 12:31.37 | Elkano | don't think there is a way to disable that and it's based per plugin |
| 12:31.49 | evl | are you sure you don't have Cartographer_Punani installed?! |
| 12:32.08 | Kirkburn | For Cart_Mining |
| 12:32.14 | Elkano | Pun...what? |
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| 12:32.27 | Kirkburn | He has a dirty mind >.< |
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| 12:35.59 | Fisker- | Kirkburn you mean the minimap notes? |
| 12:36.04 | Kirkburn | Aye |
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| 12:36.14 | Fisker- | only think you can remove them entirely :( |
| 12:36.25 | chutwig_ | this chair be high says i |
| 12:37.11 | Industrial | evl: LAL |
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| 12:45.33 | Megalon | it's all about the pink |
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| 12:47.10 | yacoob | Anyone using Amazon S3 here? |
| 12:48.01 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: shadowform already returns good values for GetShapeshiftForm() .. i dont know what the change is, and i dont have a shadow priest .. but i suppose it will still work. |
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| 12:54.52 | Bam__ | is it not correct that doing: local somelib = AceLibrary("SomeLib") is safe even if a newer instance of the library is loaded afterwards? |
| 12:54.53 | rophy2 | [Ammo] ping |
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| 12:58.19 | kenlyric | is cola still updated with item price info? |
| 12:58.46 | Bam__ | no |
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| 13:01.25 | Elkano | kenlyric, it updates as you see items... and the data that is shiped with it is way off in some cases :/ |
| 13:01.31 | nevcairiel | thats a good question Bam__, actually. |
| 13:02.04 | Bam__ | I was sure about it previously... but now due to a discussion on the forum I am in doubt |
| 13:02.43 | Bam__ | I believe ckknight told me it was safe some time ago.. but I could have misunderstood |
| 13:03.42 | nevcairiel | i am not sure |
| 13:04.21 | nevcairiel | from looking at the AL code, it seems to just return the table of the object .. and when the lib updates later, it would change in AL but not in your addon. but maybe i miss some funky metatable hooks there |
| 13:04.21 | Bam__ | it's my understanding that AceLibrary actually copies all fields from the new library to a common instance that all will share |
| 13:04.41 | Bam__ | the code is not easy to read :P |
| 13:04.47 | Bam__ | been through it too |
| 13:04.52 | sylvanaar | lol |
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| 13:05.31 | Josh_Borke | i like this: rawset(instance, 'GetLibraryVersion', function() return major, minor end) |
| 13:05.54 | Josh_Borke | it's got to be safe |
| 13:06.03 | Josh_Borke | wait, it SHOULD be safe I should say :-/ |
| 13:06.08 | [Ammo] | rophy2: opng |
| 13:06.15 | Bam__ | yea |
| 13:07.02 | nevcairiel | ah there it is |
| 13:07.14 | nevcairiel | i missed the part for updating libs heh |
| 13:07.17 | nevcairiel | i think it should be safe |
| 13:07.45 | nevcairiel | thats the whole point of AceLibrary, isnt it? |
| 13:07.47 | Bam__ | then we are 3 that tink so and none against right now :P |
| 13:08.12 | Iceroth | well in that case, i'm against it |
| 13:08.31 | Bam__ | still 3-1 :) |
| 13:08.36 | Iceroth | what are we talking about, btw? |
| 13:08.42 | Bam__ | lol |
| 13:08.44 | Iceroth | ;) |
| 13:08.55 | sylvanaar | yeah, if you refer to your lib with just the Lib-1.0 you will get the latest version |
| 13:09.01 | sylvanaar | that your question? |
| 13:09.05 | Bam__ | 4-1 |
| 13:09.06 | Bam__ | yes |
| 13:09.13 | Bam__ | no |
| 13:09.15 | Bam__ | wait |
| 13:09.29 | nevcairiel | the question was, if its safe to keep a local var with the lib, and if that lib would update, if the lib updates |
| 13:09.36 | nevcairiel | err |
| 13:09.38 | nevcairiel | if that local would update |
| 13:09.40 | Bam__ | if I hold on to an upvalue as in: local somelib = AceLibrary("SomeLib") |
| 13:09.48 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 13:09.53 | Iceroth | isn't that just a reference |
| 13:10.06 | sylvanaar | you will always get SomeLib |
| 13:10.12 | Bam__ | yes but the table it points to will be updated.. that's the theory at least |
| 13:10.23 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 13:10.59 | sylvanaar | your local somelib = AceLibrary("SomeLib") will always point to the lastest somelib |
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| 13:12.01 | Bam__ | thanks I got my confidence back again :P |
| 13:13.04 | sbu | meeeh - server shutdown in 3 minutes |
| 13:13.33 | Iceroth | imagine it after 2.1 if regular maintenance causes that already... |
| 13:13.50 | kenlyric | kaboom! |
| 13:14.12 | kenlyric | servers will be fine, since all the paladins and shamans are quitting. |
| 13:14.35 | Elkano | I wonder what 2.2 will bring... *hides* |
| 13:14.38 | Iceroth | actually, kalimdor server will be crashing for the next 2 weeks because of all the druids in the world going for the flight form quest :p |
| 13:14.41 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: ping |
| 13:15.02 | kenlyric | Elkano: a second healing class. |
| 13:15.07 | Iceroth | (and no, not because there would be so many druids but just to annoy us) |
| 13:15.18 | kenlyric | since druids don't heal and paladins and shammies are leaving. |
| 13:15.35 | Bam__ | leaving? |
| 13:16.00 | nevcairiel | druids dont heal? wonder what i do all day |
| 13:16.06 | kenlyric | don't you read class forums? ;) |
| 13:16.15 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel level their spriests |
| 13:16.19 | kenlyric | nevcairiel, probably confuse a lot of people. |
| 13:16.37 | Bam__ | not the paladin and shaman ones :P |
| 13:16.54 | Josh_Borke | there aren't enough druids with epic mounts :-P |
| 13:16.55 | Elkano | kenlyric, mages? |
| 13:17.08 | Bam__ | mages as healers? |
| 13:17.13 | nevcairiel | i have a epix mount! and soon a epix eagle form! |
| 13:17.21 | sylvanaar | healing in tbc = sucks |
| 13:17.32 | kenlyric | maybe it'll be like warhammer, where supposedly every class can heal. |
| 13:17.39 | Iceroth | huh? |
| 13:17.42 | Iceroth | really? |
| 13:17.43 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: FLAASHHEALSPAM |
| 13:17.48 | sylvanaar | yep |
| 13:17.52 | nevcairiel | every class can heal |
| 13:17.54 | Bam__ | Gnomes could need a haling class :P |
| 13:17.57 | nevcairiel | get bandages ffs |
| 13:18.10 | kenlyric | I'm talking about on the tanks :) |
| 13:18.38 | sylvanaar | i dont heal anymore - im done with that craop |
| 13:18.38 | nevcairiel | get other tank to taunt, bandage, taunt back :D |
| 13:18.56 | nevcairiel | and i am still happy with healing |
| 13:19.05 | Iceroth | heh, 2 warriors killed that big dwagon in badlands that way |
| 13:19.09 | Iceroth | pre-tbc |
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| 13:22.10 | nevcairiel | Oh blizz is creating ingame VoIP chat |
| 13:23.13 | sbu | would be great for /1 :p |
| 13:23.39 | Iceroth | high pitch chinese voice yelling "buy me gold, buy me gold!" |
| 13:24.27 | sbu | well, they cant ban you for insulting dumb ppl :o |
| 13:24.40 | nevcairiel | wonder how that would work out |
| 13:24.45 | nevcairiel | only group/raid based? |
| 13:24.47 | nevcairiel | that would suck |
| 13:25.40 | nevcairiel | To begin with, the VoIP will only be available to Parties and Raids but there may be room for expanding on that with custom channels (presumably for guilds). |
| 13:25.42 | nevcairiel | i knew it |
| 13:26.57 | Stephmw | what's the technology beneath this voip stuff? |
| 13:27.00 | Stephmw | (supposedly) |
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| 13:27.17 | nevcairiel | doesnt say |
| 13:27.31 | evl | I'll place a bet on the opensource implementation by Google |
| 13:27.42 | Stephmw | it'd be a boon to most linux users.... vent blows |
| 13:28.04 | Bam__ | CIA turned off? |
| 13:28.09 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 13:28.14 | Bam__ | okies |
| 13:28.20 | evl | Libjingle: http://code.google.com/apis/talk/libjingle/index.html |
| 13:28.35 | evl | "libjingle is a collection of open-source C++ code and sample applications that enables you to build a peer-to-peer application. The code handles creating a network connection (through NAT and firewall devices, relay servers, and proxies), negotiating session details (codecs, formats, etc.), and exchanging data" |
| 13:29.40 | nevcairiel | yeah will prolly be some p2p thing, the servers couldnt handle voip traffic too |
| 13:30.08 | nevcairiel | guess noone will really use it |
| 13:30.25 | Iceroth | hmm.. that would raise some privacy concerns though |
| 13:30.40 | Iceroth | some script kiddie i piss off flooding me with kazillion packets |
| 13:31.01 | kenlyric | privacy concerns in WoW? teehee |
| 13:31.14 | kenlyric | ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO BLIZZARD |
| 13:31.41 | Iceroth | blizzard yes but a fellow player doesn't get to know my ip |
| 13:33.48 | kenlyric | do you know my IP when you use the patch downloader? |
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| 13:34.10 | sylvanaar | cant associate it with your in game player name |
| 13:34.14 | kenlyric | you know *some* IPs, but that's not connected to a specific char in any way. |
| 13:34.25 | sylvanaar | but voip it will |
| 13:34.42 | kenlyric | only if it establishes direct connections. |
| 13:34.52 | Bam__ | time to return to dynamic IPs soon :/ |
| 13:35.03 | sylvanaar | why would they proxy it? |
| 13:35.04 | kenlyric | but a distributed model will fling traffice many places. |
| 13:35.40 | sylvanaar | going to need to get your own proxy |
| 13:36.55 | kenlyric | http://www.skype.com/products/explained.html |
| 13:37.00 | kenlyric | as per example. |
| 13:37.12 | sylvanaar | could make some money possibly |
| 13:37.28 | Iceroth | and no, i am not that paranoid (heck, iceroth.net would lead even the dummiest ones to the trail), just curious about the technology |
| 13:37.58 | kenlyric | p2p VoIP has no inherent need to tell person A the IP address of person B. |
| 13:38.14 | [Ammo] | harrr! Committed revision 35600. |
| 13:38.43 | sylvanaar | no, but can person a discover person b's address |
| 13:39.29 | nevcairiel | the blizz interview thingy yesterday was rescheduled? |
| 13:39.54 | nevcairiel | i thought they were already starting when i went offline |
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| 13:40.41 | Bam__ | they had technical problems |
| 13:41.05 | Stephmw | sylvanaar: depending on implementation, in quite a few you can't |
| 13:41.14 | nevcairiel | thats the same excuse we always get when the servers are down :P |
| 13:41.18 | sylvanaar | interesting |
| 13:41.29 | nevcairiel | someone should send them a pic of a power cord |
| 13:41.32 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 13:41.52 | Bam__ | hehe.. well the devs were ready and waiting.. probably the stratics irc that had problems |
| 13:42.20 | Stephmw | sylvanaar: there's some interesting technology behind that - as well as for firewall penetration |
| 13:42.43 | sylvanaar | that has the side effect of placing all the "source identification" in the control of the server |
| 13:43.06 | kenlyric | which they'd have to do anyway. |
| 13:43.15 | sylvanaar | unless you can exchange keys |
| 13:43.33 | Stephmw | session keys are great ;) |
| 13:44.24 | Stephmw | hell, blizz could even associate them to accounts |
| 13:44.24 | kenlyric | the authentication to the voip network will likely work as part of the authentication system. |
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| 13:44.38 | smoke_ | i have this focus macro for sheeping.. how do i make the focus frame disapear if the target is dead? i tried target=focus,nodead |
| 13:45.21 | wobin | hehe |
| 13:45.23 | wobin | guild bank |
| 13:45.28 | sylvanaar | Stephmw they prolly will |
| 13:45.29 | Megalon | /clearfocus ? |
| 13:45.36 | wobin | I wonder how much more bankspace I'd have on my single person guild =) |
| 13:45.49 | Iceroth | ooooh |
| 13:45.52 | Iceroth | that'd be neat |
| 13:45.59 | nevcairiel | you prolly need some stuff to actually activate the guildbank |
| 13:46.01 | nevcairiel | like 20 accounts |
| 13:46.03 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 13:46.24 | Stephmw | sylvanaar: I don't see them using the skype approaches to traffic shaping however, not after the major PR pain that BT was |
| 13:47.48 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with my notepad++ |
| 13:48.01 | nevcairiel | it always shows the 8.3 shortend path names |
| 13:48.05 | sylvanaar | what firewall penetration technologies are there? |
| 13:48.13 | Stephmw | sylvanaar: there's some very interesting publications from the BlackHatEU conference last year about skype's stuff :) |
| 13:48.16 | nevcairiel | wonder if thats a notepad++ issue, or incompat with Winblows X64 |
| 13:48.53 | sylvanaar | UPnP is all that comes to mind |
| 13:49.15 | Stephmw | nah, that requires cooperation from the fw |
| 13:49.24 | Stephmw | skype can do without |
| 13:49.35 | sylvanaar | right, otherwise they have to use a proxy |
| 13:49.36 | nevcairiel | if its a good fw, there is penetration |
| 13:49.44 | nevcairiel | except using a external server |
| 13:50.50 | Iceroth | someone explained that to me actually, can't recall the specifics but skype somehow tricks the firewall into thinking that we are opening the connection instead of being in the receiving and in reality |
| 13:51.02 | kenlyric | lol... you can apply prayer of spirit 1 and divine spirit to the same person. |
| 13:51.05 | Stephmw | Iceroth: right |
| 13:51.06 | Iceroth | receiving end* |
| 13:51.11 | kenlyric | but, sadly, only one counts. |
| 13:51.21 | sylvanaar | thats just some kind of tunneling |
| 13:51.31 | nevcairiel | does that only work for personal fws? |
| 13:51.35 | Stephmw | not when both ends are natted |
| 13:51.38 | nevcairiel | i dont see my router allowing it. |
| 13:51.50 | Stephmw | nevcairiel: it does ;) |
| 13:52.04 | Stephmw | nevcairiel: trying to find the exact name of the technique |
| 13:52.20 | nevcairiel | thats an evil technique and could easily be used for trojans and stuff |
| 13:52.22 | sylvanaar | what technique? |
| 13:52.27 | nevcairiel | someone should patch iptables |
| 13:52.30 | sylvanaar | SIP? |
| 13:52.45 | Stephmw | STUN is the technology |
| 13:53.15 | Stephmw | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN |
| 13:53.23 | Stephmw | followed by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDP_hole_punching |
| 13:53.38 | Stephmw | it's very effective |
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| 13:54.20 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 13:54.31 | nevcairiel | i was thinking more about TCP |
| 13:54.34 | nevcairiel | not UDP |
| 13:54.38 | nevcairiel | guess it could work with UDP |
| 13:54.47 | Stephmw | for voice, udp makes more sense |
| 13:55.05 | nevcairiel | just send stuff out, figure out your port, and use that port for receiving date from anywhere |
| 13:55.11 | Stephmw | although, the technique can also be done with tcp, just not as reliably |
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| 13:55.28 | Stephmw | brb, meeting |
| 13:56.59 | sylvanaar | i <3 UDP on mobile devices |
| 13:59.59 | sylvanaar | yeah if you are a wau user please get 1.8-beta1 and run it |
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| 14:02.36 | Bam__ | has anyone ever measured how much memory the Ac2 core libraries take up when loaded? |
| 14:03.25 | sylvanaar | just by themselves? |
| 14:03.36 | Bam__ | yea just the code |
| 14:03.55 | Bam__ | just trying to figure out the overhead of using Ace2 in a very small addon |
| 14:04.28 | wobin | Probably not worth it =) |
| 14:04.33 | sylvanaar | if its just ace2 maybe not worth it |
| 14:04.36 | wobin | Unless you're looking for specific functionality |
| 14:04.47 | wobin | Dongle might work better, or no library at all |
| 14:05.08 | Bam__ | I wonder how it would be best to measure it |
| 14:05.19 | [Ammo] | if your addon is very very small you might consider not using it |
| 14:05.30 | [Ammo] | but then again, chances are someone already has Ace2 installed |
| 14:05.35 | Bam__ | yea |
| 14:05.38 | sylvanaar | but then again its prolly aleady loaded |
| 14:05.39 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:05.58 | wobin | Bam__: well, first of all, what functionality from Ace2 are you looking to use? |
| 14:06.33 | Bam__ | well... the thing is that if I do use Ace2, I will probably add functionality that I'd otherwise skip :P |
| 14:06.41 | wobin | And making the assumption that Ace2 is already loaded is a bit... much =P |
| 14:06.47 | wobin | Like what? |
| 14:07.00 | Bam__ | but basically it's mainly AceDB and AceConsole |
| 14:07.07 | wobin | Use Dongle instead then |
| 14:07.13 | wobin | That supports both |
| 14:07.18 | wobin | command line and db |
| 14:07.23 | Bam__ | ok... never looked at that |
| 14:07.30 | wobin | It's on googlecode I believe |
| 14:08.09 | Bam__ | well im not personally worried.. just hate when if users start pointing out that the zip file is soooo big :P |
| 14:09.06 | sylvanaar | hes going to be popular |
| 14:09.17 | Bam__ | I believe in using libraries and think it's almost always worth it :P |
| 14:09.45 | Bam__ | but without exact numbers it's hard to argue about it really |
| 14:10.38 | sylvanaar | atm on the ptr ace2 bears the brunt of cpu and memory use when standalone |
| 14:11.05 | Bam__ | but those numbers include addons using Ace2, I guess? |
| 14:11.13 | sylvanaar | this load is transfered to the first addon to load the lastest revison |
| 14:11.39 | sylvanaar | if embedded |
| 14:11.39 | Bam__ | makes it hard to judge the numbers |
| 14:11.39 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 14:11.52 | Worf | kenlyric, nevcairiel: well, there will be a new healing class: hunters. :) |
| 14:12.27 | sylvanaar | basically, it will need to be loaded standalone, most everyone will eventually take it out and tell you to do that |
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| 14:12.56 | nevcairiel | Worf: so they can actually do something useful now? |
| 14:13.09 | Bam__ | anyway... my guess is that the code itself, once loaded, takes up several factors less than the size of the source code.. doesn't that seem correct? |
| 14:13.10 | FtH|Daemona | uhm what was that tiny nifty addon again that enabled you to search your tradeskills? |
| 14:13.30 | Worf | nevcairiel: oh, imba as always :) |
| 14:13.33 | nevcairiel | FtH|Daemona: patch 2.1 ? :) |
| 14:13.38 | wobin | Bam__: Well, the text is interpreted, so I assume so =) |
| 14:13.41 | nevcairiel | no idea actually |
| 14:13.46 | FtH|Daemona | nevcairiel, haha |
| 14:13.56 | FtH|Daemona | *golfclap* |
| 14:14.12 | Bam__ | hmm I wanna measurer it somehow :P |
| 14:14.22 | sylvanaar | prt |
| 14:14.23 | nevcairiel | well its in the default ui for 2.1 .. but i dont know which "tiny" addon did that .. i use atsw |
| 14:14.24 | sylvanaar | ptr |
| 14:14.26 | wobin | yeah |
| 14:14.30 | wobin | That'd be the only way |
| 14:14.37 | Bam__ | ok |
| 14:14.43 | FtH|Daemona | atsw is nice, but its a resource hook :/ |
| 14:15.20 | Kinkx | FtH|Daemona - FilterTradeSkill? |
| 14:15.28 | Bam__ | so I could make a tiny addon that does nothing but load some libraries and I will get a good idea from the numbers reported? |
| 14:15.34 | FtH|Daemona | cgCrafty ! Adding quick search functionality to the crafting window. |
| 14:15.51 | Kinkx | FilterTradeSkill does the same thing :o |
| 14:16.00 | nevcairiel | Bam__: you could just get the standalone libs, and only those, and force-load them |
| 14:16.04 | sylvanaar | the parsing of the file really isnt what takes up memory - this is evident because if you return from the top of your lua files, you report almost no memory use |
| 14:16.09 | nevcairiel | and you see how big it is |
| 14:16.30 | Bam__ | yea |
| 14:16.41 | Bam__ | will try that... |
| 14:17.02 | Bam__ | about time I got on the ptr anyway..... :P |
| 14:17.24 | nevcairiel | if you didnt install the patches yet |
| 14:17.27 | nevcairiel | "have fun" |
| 14:17.31 | wobin | >< |
| 14:17.36 | wobin | anyone got the torrent? |
| 14:17.44 | nevcairiel | its like 10 small patches for all that item stuff :P |
| 14:17.59 | Bam__ | so we are talking hours of downlad? |
| 14:18.03 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:18.12 | wobin | Can't seem to get the background downloader working on linux |
| 14:18.18 | Josh_Borke | wobin: i've got a torrent |
| 14:18.18 | nevcairiel | total 400mb |
| 14:18.19 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 14:18.26 | Josh_Borke | but not a recent one |
| 14:18.39 | nevcairiel | wobin: check the patches page on WoWWiki |
| 14:18.45 | Josh_Borke | oh wait, PTR patches? nvm |
| 14:19.05 | sylvanaar | you will need to set the DONT_TRY_TO_LOAD or whatever its called in acelibrary |
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| 14:19.09 | wobin | nevcairiel: kk |
| 14:19.30 | sylvanaar | DONT_ENABLE_LIBRARIES |
| 14:19.56 | sylvanaar | 590k |
| 14:19.59 | Bam__ | 298 mb to begin with |
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| 14:20.50 | Bam__ | sylvanaar: was that for me? :P |
| 14:21.24 | wobin | omg |
| 14:21.29 | wobin | female Big Brother |
| 14:21.36 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:21.40 | FtH|Daemona | i've got a mirror with the ptr followup patches for enGB if that helps ;) |
| 14:22.26 | Bam__ | hmm it doesnt even start to download the first one :\ |
| 14:22.27 | phyber | do any of the addons have a small RGB -> HEX colour converter thing I could steal? There don't seem to be any examples on wowwiki :) |
| 14:22.41 | wobin | crayon? |
| 14:22.43 | nevcairiel | try crayon |
| 14:22.43 | Bam__ | Crayon? |
| 14:22.47 | wobin | hehe =) |
| 14:23.12 | phyber | I was looking at crayon, I a) missed that function, b) the function is called something that doesn't stand out. |
| 14:23.20 | phyber | (since I use that in some other addons) ;) |
| 14:24.00 | Josh_Borke | string.format("%x%x%x",r*255,g*255,b*255)? o.O |
| 14:24.06 | Bam__ | string.format("%2x%2x%2x", r, g, h) |
| 14:24.10 | Bam__ | bah |
| 14:24.13 | wobin | Paintchips? |
| 14:24.24 | phyber | Josh_Borke: thanks :) |
| 14:24.35 | Bam__ | a combination of min and Josh's I think :) |
| 14:24.37 | [Ammo] | paintchips has functionality like that where you can rip it from |
| 14:25.12 | wobin | yeah |
| 14:25.19 | wobin | GetRGB and GetHex etc |
| 14:25.30 | Cryect | red green hue is an interesting color scheme Bam__ :-p |
| 14:25.38 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 14:26.50 | nevcairiel | where is HSL color scheme used? i see that in crayon .. but no idea where i would ever need it |
| 14:26.51 | Bam__ | h and b look the same.. at least to the monks that wrote down music in the middle-ages :D |
| 14:27.10 | Josh_Borke | HSL? |
| 14:27.30 | nevcairiel | hue saturation luminance |
| 14:27.42 | yacoob | hu? |
| 14:28.21 | [Ammo] | hunters better abandon your cat, it'll get owned by turtles in 2.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0gfCyeiyM |
| 14:28.23 | Cryect | HSL is useful for selecting colors |
| 14:28.26 | Cryect | and thats about it |
| 14:28.42 | ashai|hc | cats <3 |
| 14:28.58 | Bam__ | hehe poor cat |
| 14:28.59 | the_squid | any ideas on the mats for the new seaforium charges? |
| 14:29.05 | [Ammo] | yeah the cat gets owned bad |
| 14:29.11 | Cryect | Has someone written an HSL color selector in WoW? |
| 14:29.29 | Bam__ | quite fast that turtle |
| 14:29.36 | Cryect | Its useful for other stuff but nothing you would do I say in WoW |
| 14:30.13 | nevcairiel | crayon can convert rgb to hsl |
| 14:30.27 | nevcairiel | but not more |
| 14:35.58 | FtH|Daemona | rofl... when some guild mates are bored on the ptr... http://www4.file-upload.net/16.05.07/tm14yt.JPG |
| 14:36.25 | FtH|Daemona | talk about big numbers -.- |
| 14:38.24 | Cryect | haha unrealistic but amusing :-p |
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| 14:41.23 | kenlyric | how does one play at a resolution that small. |
| 14:41.31 | kenlyric | is that even 640x480? |
| 14:41.38 | Cryect | uh you shrink the image? |
| 14:41.43 | kenlyric | bastards. |
| 14:41.57 | kenlyric | image size is meaningless. |
| 14:42.05 | Cryect | I mean you could play in Window Mode and shrink it if you wanted :-p |
| 14:42.34 | kenlyric | cool! |
| 14:42.34 | kenlyric | it's miniwow |
| 14:42.54 | kenlyric | teehee |
| 14:43.54 | kenlyric | it actually scales down really really small |
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| 14:54.50 | Stephmw | sylvanaar: udp on mobile devices is difficult - it's heavily dependent on the operator ;-) |
| 14:55.02 | kenlyric | anyone know if epic flying is still 3000g on the PTR? |
| 14:55.25 | wobin | epic flying is getting cheaper, no? |
| 14:55.33 | wobin | (cheaper than live atm) |
| 14:55.52 | FtH|Daemona | i want 3k gold back then |
| 14:56.39 | nevcairiel | i dont believe it, until i see someone confirm it |
| 14:58.33 | kenlyric | well surely, someone here has been on the PTR since I was three weeks ago :) |
| 14:58.43 | nevcairiel | ive been |
| 14:58.45 | nevcairiel | but |
| 14:58.49 | nevcairiel | i already own that skill |
| 14:58.50 | nevcairiel | so |
| 14:58.52 | nevcairiel | no idea :D |
| 14:59.05 | FtH|Daemona | i'll take my twink there |
| 14:59.09 | FtH|Daemona | gimme a second |
| 14:59.33 | knarf- | gahh making wowgui is annoying :< |
| 15:00.54 | knarf- | especially when I have no idea what to do :P |
| 15:01.32 | kenlyric | that's the best time. |
| 15:02.26 | kenlyric | the fact that I haven't seen a single word about mount prices tells me it's back at 5000g |
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| 15:05.27 | FtH|Daemona | skill 5k |
| 15:05.31 | FtH|Daemona | mount 200 |
| 15:05.34 | FtH|Daemona | ! |
| 15:05.36 | nevcairiel | like before |
| 15:05.45 | Megalon | "back at 5000g" |
| 15:05.54 | Megalon | ;s |
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| 15:07.25 | Kaydeethree | "back"? it never changed |
| 15:07.32 | nevcairiel | prolly reduced on ptr to allow more druids to take the quest :P |
| 15:08.02 | Megalon | so they don't had to open so much boxes to get 5k? ;D |
| 15:08.07 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:08.21 | nevcairiel | i was too lazy todo the quest tho |
| 15:08.24 | nevcairiel | started |
| 15:08.29 | nevcairiel | and stopped after 3 steps |
| 15:09.45 | nevcairiel | anyone else here using Notepad++ 4.1.1 ? |
| 15:10.30 | nevcairiel | i have a somewhat annoying bug, and i dont know if its because i am using XP64 or with npp |
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| 15:15.10 | Kilroo | AAAAAAGH, the pants! |
| 15:15.40 | kenlyric | Kaydeethree: it was 3000g for about a week on PTR |
| 15:15.54 | Kaydeethree | oh, wow |
| 15:16.00 | kenlyric | everyone assumed it was a bug. |
| 15:16.03 | kenlyric | guess it was. |
| 15:16.04 | Kaydeethree | I can hear the bitching in general now once 2.1 goes live |
| 15:16.13 | Kaydeethree | "zomg, it's back to 5kg again! you bastards!" |
| 15:16.26 | kenlyric | the news never seemed to get around. |
| 15:16.37 | kenlyric | I guess it's possible it was just a hoax. |
| 15:16.48 | Kilroo | I still find it irritating when I run into people who take for granted having more gold than I ever have. |
| 15:17.58 | Kilroo | Not -very- irritating, usually, because they're high level and stuff. |
| 15:18.06 | Kilroo | But a little bit irritating. |
| 15:18.45 | Kilroo | I blame it on a few people from quite some time ago who laughed at me for expressing surprise at how much gold they had. |
| 15:18.46 | kenlyric | Kilroo: mostly those people find making money in game fun, and can't fathom other people who don't. |
| 15:19.00 | Kilroo | Hehe |
| 15:19.09 | Kilroo | Actually I find it fun myself. |
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| 15:19.25 | Kilroo | Unfortunately I'm a level 44 skinner/leatherworker. |
| 15:20.01 | phyber | Kaydeethree: you found 15,600g under Kel'Thuzad's pillow? :) |
| 15:20.15 | Kilroo | So far my best moneymaking methods have been...let's see...I think Barbaric Bracers, and speculating at the AH. |
| 15:20.19 | kenlyric | I do my gathering stuff for a few hours across the week, but it's not making me fabulously wealthy. |
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| 15:20.35 | kaiden^ | ugh and here i just spent 1000g on jewelcrafting just to get it to 300 skill |
| 15:20.45 | kaiden^ | prices have gone far too high |
| 15:20.57 | Kaydeethree | I had 500g to my name zoning in to outland on jan 16. I've made most of my money getting 2 characters to scryer exalted, 1 to aldor exalted, getting all 3 to kurenai exalted |
| 15:21.03 | kenlyric | crafting professions are the antithesis of cash. |
| 15:21.09 | phyber | spending money to level skills suck. you should be like me. after 2 years, I just hit 300 enchanting a week or two before the expansion hit ;) |
| 15:21.13 | Kaydeethree | that and selling primals/herbs/alch stuff |
| 15:21.24 | phyber | I'm at 323 now, going well! \o/ |
| 15:23.00 | Kilroo | I think I made 4 gold once by being a jackass and buying out all the auctions of some guy who was selling some enchantment materials cheap...and then putting them back up again. |
| 15:23.00 | kenlyric | my cache is pretty well stocked though. I liquidated to finish my aldor rep, wanted 300g, got 700g, and sold not even half of my cache. |
| 15:23.00 | Kinkx | Does the servers lag/crash like crazy after each maintenance in the US? |
| 15:23.00 | Kaydeethree | maint, nah |
| 15:23.00 | Kaydeethree | patches, yes |
| 15:23.00 | kenlyric | it can. |
| 15:23.00 | kaiden^ | yeah i just quit alliance side and moved to horde so low on cash |
| 15:23.00 | Kilroo | Geez, you people make me sick. |
| 15:23.00 | kenlyric | if they applied server hotfixes. |
| 15:23.00 | kaiden^ | only have about 2000g |
| 15:23.01 | Kilroo | I have less than 20g. |
| 15:23.01 | kaiden^ | get to farming then |
| 15:23.01 | Kilroo | And I believe the most I've ever had was under 50. |
| 15:23.01 | kenlyric | kilroo, once you hit 70, the gold sorta just falls in. |
| 15:23.15 | Kaydeethree | once you get to HFP, you mean |
| 15:23.15 | phyber | I have 8,200g. this is not enough to buy the epic mount. I refuse to feel poor after buying the thing :p |
| 15:23.15 | Kinkx | Hmm okie, the EU team keeps messing up every damn week then or something, Kalimdor and Outland keeps crashing, and tons of lag spikes.. been like this for over a month now |
| 15:23.24 | Kilroo | Ken, I'll probably never hit 70. But if I do wind up renewing my subscription in another couple years, I'll keep that in mind. |
| 15:23.31 | kenlyric | phyber: the gold falls in much faster once you have the epic :) |
| 15:23.46 | kenlyric | you can out-gather all those poor folks on normal mounts or (lol) the ground. |
| 15:24.10 | Kilroo | I suspect that my enjoyment of the game in high levels will be rather poor unless something happens to change my mind about whether raiding is fun. |
| 15:24.12 | phyber | meh, my main isn't a gatherer. Tailoring + Enchanting. Unless I can tear the cloths off people :) |
| 15:24.39 | Kaydeethree | meh. go grind the belves on the hill up to karabor |
| 15:24.43 | Kilroo | Speaking of tearing clothes off, I think I'll go putter around until lunch. |
| 15:24.46 | kenlyric | grinding is the ultimate suck. |
| 15:24.46 | Kaydeethree | netherweave drops like rain |
| 15:24.53 | kenlyric | my brain shuts down after 3.5 minutes of grinding. |
| 15:25.02 | Kilroo | I don't much care for grinding either. |
| 15:25.22 | Kilroo | I have the misfortune to think that the pinnacle of WoW is a five-man instance with as little AoE as possible. |
| 15:25.35 | kenlyric | rogue? |
| 15:25.38 | Kilroo | Yeah. |
| 15:26.00 | Kaydeethree | oof. you're sure looking forward to 2.1... no sweeping strikes and frontal-cleaves only |
| 15:26.18 | kenlyric | no more asscleave |
| 15:26.31 | Chompers | asscleave, hurr |
| 15:26.47 | Kilroo | My TBC trial runs out...ah...tomorrow night I think. |
| 15:26.47 | Kilroo | So, no...I'm not, really. |
| 15:27.05 | kenlyric | I was asscleaved by vael a couple times before I decided that'd I just have to settle on prayer of healing. |
| 15:27.07 | Chompers | do they have a sword pop out of their pooper or something? |
| 15:27.17 | kenlyric | dunno. |
| 15:27.24 | kenlyric | but vael would do it. |
| 15:27.34 | kenlyric | sometimes, even from across the room, but I think he was bugged those times :) |
| 15:28.26 | kenlyric | I don't know what nef was feeding him, but he needed some beano. |
| 15:28.37 | kaiden^ | ding 300 jc |
| 15:28.38 | kaiden^ | :( |
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| 15:28.44 | art3mis | finally something useful from voidwalker yar |
| 15:28.47 | kenlyric | kaiden^: now it gets hard. |
| 15:29.03 | art3mis | voideweave cilice of shadow wrath +62 shadow |
| 15:29.03 | trh | hey |
| 15:29.12 | kaiden^ | kenlyric, the rest of it i will farm for |
| 15:29.15 | kenlyric | sweet. |
| 15:29.20 | kaiden^ | i just can't afford to spend more cash on it that was far too expensive |
| 15:29.29 | kaiden^ | plus my pally is only lvl 40 |
| 15:29.30 | kaiden^ | :P |
| 15:29.39 | kaiden^ | so he's got a while before he can even train for the next jc |
| 15:30.00 | kenlyric | it's doofus! |
| 15:30.09 | kenlyric | my poor hunter is skinning stuff and getting no skill. |
| 15:30.30 | trh | yeah.. hunters rarely got skill :P |
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| 15:31.14 | Fisker- | [Ammo] !! |
| 15:31.40 | kenlyric | my hunter has no skill. |
| 15:31.54 | kenlyric | my cat is destruction, so it balances. |
| 15:32.43 | Mikk | your cat is a warlock/druid hybrid? |
| 15:32.59 | kenlyric | also warrior and rogue. |
| 15:33.07 | Mikk | ooh |
| 15:33.18 | Mikk | guildie of mine has a feral ferret |
| 15:33.21 | Mikk | it pounces his foot |
| 15:33.33 | [Ammo] | what fisker |
| 15:33.35 | [Ammo] | speak worm |
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| 15:34.03 | kenlyric | I logged in once into an ogre camp. By the time the world actually loaded so that I can see and react, the cat had killed one. |
| 15:34.23 | kenlyric | be so nice if I could loot those. |
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| 15:40.04 | Fisker- | i am speaking [Ammo] |
| 15:40.12 | Fisker- | Is it intended that violation doesn't keep track of self heals? |
| 15:40.17 | Josh_Borke | is that like speaking french? |
| 15:41.20 | nevcairiel | has anyone used SW_UniLog yet? i cant get regex filters to work. |
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| 15:54.14 | [Ammo] | Fisker-: it should |
| 15:54.26 | Fisker- | It isn't :( |
| 15:54.26 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 15:57.53 | [Ammo] | too bad |
| 15:57.57 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel no, havent had the time |
| 15:58.01 | [Ammo] | you're probably overhealing yourself |
| 15:58.10 | [Ammo] | or not using revision 35600+ |
| 15:58.39 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 15:59.02 | Megalon | lua hates Fisker-, like wow does |
| 15:59.09 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: did you see my poke about shadowform? |
| 16:00.06 | [Ammo] | time for some dinner |
| 16:00.08 | [Ammo] | later |
| 16:00.31 | Cryect | Is there an easy way to tell what thing wrong with your addon is preventing it to be picked up by http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 16:00.35 | Fisker- | bah |
| 16:01.07 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: did you see my reply ? :p |
| 16:01.11 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: no :P |
| 16:01.24 | nekoh | why is ChatThrottleLib embedded in violation? it's already included in AceComm :X |
| 16:01.27 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: shadow form is already considered a stance by the secure state header, so i dont see issues there |
| 16:01.34 | nevcairiel | anyway, gotta run to the store, bbl |
| 16:01.50 | vhaarr | ah, ok |
| 16:02.01 | vhaarr | nekoh: yeah it's no problem |
| 16:02.11 | vhaarr | only one of them get loaded |
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| 16:02.38 | nekoh | ic |
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| 16:14.53 | trh | kenlyric: 2.1. maybe =) |
| 16:15.10 | trh | err.. scrolled up too much |
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| 16:20.36 | Xuerian | Cryect: It probably didn't get picked up due to the latest fiasco with the files script |
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| 16:30.18 | Cryect | Xuerian: Heh figured it was something i did wrong and at first it was (externals pointed to wrong directory by wrong capitilization) |
| 16:30.33 | Xuerian | Damn. capitalization killed last night ;p |
| 16:30.42 | Xuerian | Had hours of fun in #wowi ;P |
| 16:31.06 | Kilroo | You know what amuses me? |
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| 16:31.49 | Kilroo | Patricia C. Wrede. |
| 16:32.02 | Kilroo | Or, well, her books. |
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| 16:39.04 | kenlyric | heh |
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| 16:45.15 | Mike_2 | Hiho, question about Pitbull: I dont manage to only see my party when I join a raidgroup, I can disable the whole raid module (party is gone aswell) or see all raid groups. Any hint? |
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| 16:49.25 | sbu | ckknight: Bracket/Brace etc. doesnt work properly with Append |
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| 16:51.02 | Mike_2 | anyone is using pitbull unit frames? |
| 16:51.10 | Mike_2 | threse no FAQ in the wiki :\ |
| 16:51.14 | kenlyric | not me. |
| 16:51.17 | Awaa | Yeah |
| 16:51.56 | Awaa | The pitbull thread on wowace forums contains lots of info |
| 16:53.16 | chutwig_ | bitpull |
| 16:53.21 | ulic | Mike_2: I'm pretty there are some options like "Show Party in Raid" |
| 16:54.47 | [Ammo] | it will probably listen to the flag in the general interface options fo blizzard |
| 16:54.52 | [Ammo] | or it should |
| 16:54.54 | Mike_2 | nope :\ |
| 16:54.56 | Mike_2 | tried |
| 16:55.15 | [Ammo] | I have my raidframes set to hidden |
| 16:55.16 | [Ammo] | and partyframes set to shown |
| 16:55.16 | [Ammo] | and that works for me |
| 16:57.00 | Mike_2 | with pitbull? |
| 17:01.33 | ulic | make sure that the "Hide Party frames in raid" pitbull option is not on. |
| 17:02.26 | ulic | there is also an option "Show 5-man raid as party", that might work for you too. |
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| 17:07.44 | Ominous | aww isnt CIA up |
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| 17:11.47 | Gngsk | Kaelten disabled the post-commit hook yesterday though, won't see anything in irc until it's reeneabled |
| 17:12.22 | sbu | ckknight: hmm isMounted, are all mount names in babble? |
| 17:12.33 | Kaelten | is CIA back? |
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| 17:13.12 | Chompers | we miss you CIA :< |
| 17:13.47 | Kaelten | the post commit has been reactivated |
| 17:15.00 | sylvanaar | who is gonna be first? |
| 17:15.07 | Cryect | CIA was back 5 minutes after you left |
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| 17:17.13 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35618 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.toc: ClassTimer: toc edit |
| 17:17.35 | Ominous | ~me falls over in lust at CIA-23 |
| 17:17.39 | purl | moi? |
| 17:17.40 | Gngsk | there we go! |
| 17:17.40 | Ominous | oops |
| 17:17.57 | Gagorian | Ominous cheats :( |
| 17:18.02 | Ominous | no no |
| 17:18.09 | Ominous | look at svn diff, i made needed changes |
| 17:18.12 | Gagorian | SURELY AN IMPORTANT EDIT |
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| 17:19.46 | [dRaCo] | ~seen nymbia |
| 17:20.54 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 2m 25s ago, saying: 'mm:yyyy ''' ss/dd-hh--mm'. |
| 17:20.55 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:20.55 | Kaelten | has the server been acting up lately? |
| 17:20.55 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35619 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Do some visibility checking and such in the base implementation of OnUpdate for modules which may hook it. |
| 17:20.55 | Kaelten | as in the last 12 hours or so? |
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| 17:20.55 | Matrix110 | btw |
| 17:20.55 | [dRaCo] | purl: :( |
| 17:21.06 | purl | it has been said that ( is feeling blue |
| 17:21.09 | Cryect | Ominous very important changes http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/35618 |
| 17:21.09 | Matrix110 | Aloft/Prat/and other mods store class information wouldnt it be better to have a compressed DB for that? |
| 17:21.19 | Cryect | I like the Line 3 change |
| 17:22.02 | sylvanaar | Matrix110 prat doesnt need to store it, thats only if the user wants to for some reason, but if someone wants to make a lib... |
| 17:22.03 | Cryect | or removing the libs no longer used :-p |
| 17:22.34 | Matrix110 | i know that it doesnt need to store it but whats the use of the module if i see all users grey:P |
| 17:22.41 | sylvanaar | you wont |
| 17:22.55 | Cryect | you only see them as grey if you have it setup to save class info |
| 17:23.05 | Matrix110 | Oo |
| 17:23.07 | sylvanaar | er |
| 17:23.25 | Cryect | you can have it set to show random colors etc if you want :-p |
| 17:23.25 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.f13.net/index.php?itemid=561#more |
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| 17:23.25 | Antiarc|Work | Man. |
| 17:23.30 | Antiarc|Work | No wonder Vanguard fell apart. |
| 17:23.40 | Antiarc|Work | No internal supporting tools, no scripting language, no QA. |
| 17:23.40 | sylvanaar | Matrix110 turn off keep info |
| 17:23.48 | sylvanaar | Matrix110 and flush the data |
| 17:23.49 | Antiarc|Work | No management, no morale on the team. |
| 17:23.51 | Antiarc|Work | Oof. |
| 17:24.04 | Matrix110 | gotta test |
| 17:25.01 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: heh. The best way to compete in the market is to pretend like you don't have compettition :) |
| 17:25.17 | Fisker- | vanguard got cancelled? |
| 17:25.42 | kenlyric | yeah, the day it was released, by anyone foolish enough to pay for it :) |
| 17:26.01 | Antiarc|Work | Sigil got bought by SOE, and the entirety of the staff got fired yesterday. |
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| 17:26.13 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 17:26.25 | Antiarc|Work | It's a pretty sure bet that Vanguard is as good as dead at this point. |
| 17:26.26 | kenlyric | what's the logic behind paying for a failed MMO? |
| 17:26.33 | Kirkburn | The entirety? |
| 17:26.38 | Kirkburn | I only heard that some were |
| 17:26.39 | kenlyric | when SoE already has plenty of moderately successful MMOs |
| 17:26.53 | kenlyric | Kirkburn: all |
| 17:26.54 | kenlyric | they've said they will hire about half of them back to run the MMO. |
| 17:26.59 | Antiarc|Work | The email said literally to check in any work we were working on, grab anything we'd need for the evening (keys, wallet, purse, whatever) and meet out back for a short company meeting. We met in the parking lot. Worse still... though Dave was supposedly in charge all this time, Andy is the one who delivered the 'you're all fired' speech, while Dave never said a single word. It was very emotionless. Very callous. "The deal is done, and basically you |
| 17:27.00 | Kirkburn | ouch |
| 17:27.27 | kenlyric | parking lot firings, lol :) |
| 17:27.35 | Fisker- | lol |
| 17:28.10 | kenlyric | "Well... if you call what we shipped 100%, I'd put the game at around 65%." |
| 17:28.49 | Fisker- | ;) |
| 17:29.34 | Fisker- | oh lol |
| 17:29.46 | Fisker- | f13.net: What tools were used to make the game? |
| 17:29.46 | Fisker- | Ex-Sigil: In-house stuff for the design side... but there was no scripting language for example, even though nearly everyone wanted one except for the people who decided if we got one or not. |
| 17:29.46 | Fisker- | f13.net: Because it would cost money to make these tools? |
| 17:29.46 | Fisker- | Ex-Sigil: No... because the people in charge just didn't want one |
| 17:30.19 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r35620 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 17:30.19 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 17:30.19 | CIA-23 | - Typo |
| 17:31.24 | kenlyric | "QA was one person up until about November... ONE." |
| 17:31.26 | kenlyric | It's blizzard |
| 17:31.27 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r35621 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 17:31.27 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 17:31.27 | CIA-23 | - Typo 2: Return of the Typo. |
| 17:33.27 | Fisker- | dates fit and all that kenlyric :P |
| 17:33.51 | kenlyric | when QA was doubled to two. |
| 17:35.49 | kenlyric | this would make more sense If I knew who brad was. |
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| 17:36.59 | Tornhoof | brad mcquaid |
| 17:39.58 | kenlyric | lol, five years to make a huge steaming pile of crap. |
| 17:40.01 | kenlyric | It's Vista! |
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| 17:43.23 | trh | kenlyric: except for the memory usage and slower 3d performance it isn't worse than xp |
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| 17:43.48 | kenlyric | trh: ok, 5 years to make nothing, then :) |
| 17:44.08 | trh | kenlyric: some eyecandy ;) |
| 17:44.19 | kenlyric | five years to slap a fancy sticker on WoW that nobody wanted to play. |
| 17:45.06 | trh | they improved the kernel abit too ;) |
| 17:45.30 | kenlyric | stop talking about vista! |
| 17:45.40 | kenlyric | it's bash vanguard time! |
| 17:46.02 | trh | vanguard is irrelevant ;) |
| 17:46.45 | harldephin | is there an add-on uitlizing GPSLib or GraphLib yet ? |
| 17:48.03 | harldephin | utilizing |
| 17:48.33 | kenlyric | "I've always wanted to build a massively multiplayer world where the enemies can adapt and learn" |
| 17:48.37 | kenlyric | man, that would be sexy. |
| 17:53.05 | evl | I H8 VANGUARD |
| 17:55.05 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: too bad nobody would play it |
| 17:55.11 | hyperChipmunk | "it's too hard" |
| 17:55.20 | hyperChipmunk | "where are my epix" |
| 17:55.27 | kenlyric | just put hunters in the game. |
| 17:55.52 | evl | hey |
| 17:55.56 | evl | I H8 HUNTERS |
| 17:56.00 | kenlyric | seriously, do people play this game for epics? |
| 17:56.17 | kenlyric | cause, that's fuckin dumb. |
| 17:56.38 | evl | If I put on an extra pair of boxers over the ones I already have while playing my rogue I would be providing the same for my raid as having an extra hunter there would. |
| 17:56.40 | kenlyric | fapping to the login screen? |
| 17:56.46 | hyperChipmunk | i'm a hunter, and about as gung-ho difficulty masochistic as they come |
| 17:56.54 | hyperChipmunk | so screw you |
| 17:56.58 | evl | kenlyric: i've got an Epic tabard |
| 17:57.06 | kenlyric | evl, lol, I was talking about solo content. If solo content is too hard, let them choose hunter. |
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| 17:57.46 | evl | Whenever I meet a hunter I just think about frost trap |
| 17:57.58 | evl | Most annoying thing in the game? |
| 17:58.07 | KarlThePagan | entrapment |
| 17:58.11 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: BulkMail-0.9.0\BulkMail.lua:639: attempt to index local 'curmenu' (a nil value) |
| 17:58.17 | kenlyric | I've been told Inner Focus is th emost annoying thing in the game. |
| 17:58.22 | KarlThePagan | haha yes |
| 17:58.26 | kenlyric | especially after the first 10 minutes. |
| 17:58.31 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: thanks; i meant to fix that yesterday |
| 17:58.35 | hyperChipmunk | gimme a min |
| 17:58.38 | vhaarr | goody |
| 17:58.42 | kenlyric | can't believe it's getting nerfed in 2.1 |
| 17:58.48 | KarlThePagan | really? |
| 17:58.55 | evl | "# |
| 17:58.55 | evl | # Don't activate the spell without using it. Its constant sound can be very annoying to other players. |
| 17:58.56 | kenlyric | it's some kind of aura around the player. |
| 17:58.59 | kenlyric | without sound :( |
| 17:59.00 | hyperChipmunk | appreciate you giving it some testing =) |
| 17:59.00 | vhaarr | Inner Focus? No. |
| 17:59.01 | evl | haha, WoWiki speaks the truth! |
| 17:59.03 | KarlThePagan | wtf no no no |
| 17:59.07 | vhaarr | The sound was still there last time I checked. |
| 17:59.10 | vhaarr | on PTR. |
| 17:59.12 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 17:59.18 | kenlyric | vhaarr: oh thank god! |
| 17:59.20 | KarlThePagan | UNACCEPTABLE SLAP IN THE FACE |
| 17:59.21 | vhaarr | :D |
| 17:59.22 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 17:59.34 | kenlyric | vhaarr: mass dispel still has been broken, rright? |
| 17:59.46 | kenlyric | I probably should have signed on to the PTR more than the first day :) |
| 17:59.57 | evl | vhaarr: some muppet in my guild decided they had other muppet friends on Kazzak so we're moving there instead :( We can still be friends on the internet if you want though. |
| 18:00.25 | evl | iFriends |
| 18:00.27 | vhaarr | evl: bah :( |
| 18:00.31 | [Ammo] | evl: join kazzak! |
| 18:00.39 | evl | We'll they've already moved |
| 18:00.46 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 18:00.48 | knarf- | Why on earth does my Fishing Buddy bug when I join a raid :< |
| 18:00.54 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: wtf |
| 18:00.58 | vhaarr | :O |
| 18:01.01 | hyperChipmunk | have you looked at that line? |
| 18:01.06 | evl | And then they said they were drunk while doing it and they didn't know that they became a bit gay when the balls touched |
| 18:01.21 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: no |
| 18:01.25 | vhaarr | I will now |
| 18:01.31 | hyperChipmunk | i can't see how it can possibly be nil O_o |
| 18:01.44 | hyperChipmunk | ohhh |
| 18:01.48 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 18:02.07 | vhaarr | it's nil if pt3SetsDDTable.subMenu is? |
| 18:02.30 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but i explicitly set it above |
| 18:02.39 | hyperChipmunk | i bet it happens in the loop |
| 18:02.52 | hyperChipmunk | that's what threw me |
| 18:03.05 | hyperChipmunk | see, like 3 lines up subMenu is initialized to {} |
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| 18:04.26 | hyperChipmunk | gimme a min to work out the logic; i can quick-fix it easy, but I want to be sure i've got it right |
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| 18:07.53 | Fisker- | sylvanaar are you actually making the xml reader for WAU btw? |
| 18:08.46 | hyperChipmunk | no that still doesn't make sense |
| 18:09.01 | hyperChipmunk | oh wait yes it does |
| 18:09.49 | hyperChipmunk | god i'm so confused =) |
| 18:10.43 | hyperChipmunk | what does the menu look like when you get that error? |
| 18:10.56 | vhaarr | it happens when I visit my mailbox, I don't get any UI |
| 18:11.19 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 18:11.24 | NimbleRabit | What's going on here? |
| 18:11.33 | hyperChipmunk | '/bm autosend edit' doesn't have a menu? |
| 18:12.56 | hyperChipmunk | that's messed up; it should be called oninit |
| 18:13.06 | vhaarr | wait |
| 18:13.09 | hyperChipmunk | er, onenable |
| 18:13.14 | vhaarr | I have to type something to get a UI? |
| 18:13.34 | hyperChipmunk | to edit your autosends, yea |
| 18:13.50 | vhaarr | why doesn't it open when I open the send tab? |
| 18:13.57 | hyperChipmunk | that's a different UI |
| 18:14.10 | hyperChipmunk | that's your send queue |
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| 18:14.13 | vhaarr | well if I type that |
| 18:14.16 | hyperChipmunk | but it doesn't use that table |
| 18:14.26 | vhaarr | I get a tablet with 3 lines: "AutoSend Rules"; "New Destination" and "Close". |
| 18:14.37 | hyperChipmunk | the error is happening in the autosend ui |
| 18:14.38 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that one |
| 18:14.50 | hyperChipmunk | make a new destination |
| 18:15.01 | hyperChipmunk | and click include for me, if you could |
| 18:15.10 | hyperChipmunk | what does the pt3sets table look like |
| 18:15.14 | hyperChipmunk | er, menu |
| 18:15.45 | NimbleRabit | why does Quartz show target buffs/debuffs |
| 18:15.50 | NimbleRabit | that seems very odd for a casting bar |
| 18:15.56 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: I don't follow, I added a destination and clicked include |
| 18:16.00 | vhaarr | and then what? |
| 18:16.09 | hyperChipmunk | did you get a dewdrop? |
| 18:16.12 | vhaarr | no |
| 18:16.21 | hyperChipmunk | k that's because of the error |
| 18:16.34 | hyperChipmunk | why don't i get the error =P |
| 18:17.17 | vhaarr | I get that error when on load |
| 18:17.39 | vhaarr | when I log in/reloadui, I mean |
| 18:17.44 | hyperChipmunk | ok |
| 18:17.47 | hyperChipmunk | that makes sense |
| 18:17.57 | hyperChipmunk | moreso than it happening when you visit mailbox |
| 18:18.07 | hyperChipmunk | do you have a moment to help me test this? |
| 18:18.12 | vhaarr | 5min |
| 18:18.40 | hyperChipmunk | can you go to line 655 in BulkMail.lua and un-local that table |
| 18:19.33 | hyperChipmunk | and then /dump it |
| 18:19.41 | vhaarr | nil |
| 18:19.47 | hyperChipmunk | the part i need i think would be ddtable[3] |
| 18:19.50 | hyperChipmunk | oh right |
| 18:20.00 | hyperChipmunk | um, line 632 |
| 18:20.08 | hyperChipmunk | unlocal that, and /dump |
| 18:20.28 | hyperChipmunk | sorry, i didn't get much sleep last night |
| 18:20.56 | vhaarr | done |
| 18:21.11 | hyperChipmunk | does it give a good list of tables, or just one level? |
| 18:21.32 | vhaarr | {hasArrow = true, subMenu = { Bag, Consumable, Container, ... }, text = "Periodic Table Set" } |
| 18:21.44 | Fisker- | it's a trap Boubouille |
| 18:21.52 | hyperChipmunk | k, does that submenu seem to have all the PT sets? |
| 18:21.59 | vhaarr | yes |
| 18:22.02 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 18:22.12 | hyperChipmunk | then it's not nilling out anything important |
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| 18:22.20 | hyperChipmunk | i can just do a simple check |
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| 18:23.11 | hyperChipmunk | line 639, make it if curmenu and not curmenu[cat] then |
| 18:23.16 | Boubouille | Fisker- : what ? :( |
| 18:23.19 | hyperChipmunk | and tell me if you get the error |
| 18:24.17 | Fisker- | it's a trap |
| 18:24.20 | Fisker- | let me show you |
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| 18:25.55 | CIA-23 | 03seerah * r35622 10ClearFont2_FontPack_1/core.lua: |
| 18:25.55 | CIA-23 | ClearFont2_FontPack_1: |
| 18:25.55 | CIA-23 | - changed OnEnable to OnInitialize and register fonts with SharedMedia |
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| 18:28.35 | hyperChipmunk | why the heck don't i get this error |
| 18:28.49 | CIA-23 | 03seerah * r35623 10ClearFont2_FontPack_2/core.lua: |
| 18:28.49 | CIA-23 | ClearFont2_FontPack_2: |
| 18:28.49 | CIA-23 | - changed OnEnable to OnInitialize and register fonts with SharedMedia |
| 18:30.45 | smoke_ | is there an ace mod that sells all your grey items in your back at the vendor? |
| 18:31.57 | Hjalte | How do i check when someone last is seen in this channel? |
| 18:32.06 | vhaarr | ~seen ag` |
| 18:32.41 | purl | ag` <n=ag`@0x535f749b.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 5h 51m 10s ago, saying: 'hey'. |
| 18:32.41 | CIA-23 | 03seerah * r35624 10ClearFont2_FontPack_3/core.lua: |
| 18:32.42 | CIA-23 | ClearFont2_FontPack_3: |
| 18:32.42 | CIA-23 | - cleaned up SharedMedia registry code for consistency |
| 18:32.42 | kenlyric | smoke_: automaton, uh, that other one. |
| 18:32.42 | vhaarr | smoke_: http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tekJunkSeller |
| 18:32.42 | kenlyric | garbagefu |
| 18:32.57 | Kaydeethree | was gonna say "autoprofit" but that's not an ace mod |
| 18:33.05 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r35625 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: |
| 18:33.05 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: 0.9 beta |
| 18:33.05 | CIA-23 | - attempt to fix line 639 error |
| 18:33.14 | kenlyric | I just use automaton. It has many useful functions. |
| 18:33.20 | hyperChipmunk | i hope that works =\ |
| 18:33.23 | smoke_ | yeah i used to use autoprofit |
| 18:33.27 | kenlyric | though, a dumb default for autosummon, so check that :) |
| 18:33.57 | hyperChipmunk | if anyone is getting the line 639 nil error in BulkMail, please try that and tell me if it fixes it |
| 18:34.17 | kenlyric | wait, you're updating bulkmail on the trunk now? |
| 18:34.27 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 18:34.36 | hyperChipmunk | that's the branch |
| 18:34.37 | hyperChipmunk | see |
| 18:34.40 | NimbleRabit | what does bulkmail do |
| 18:34.41 | kenlyric | ah, is that what the 0.9 is? |
| 18:34.46 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 18:34.55 | kenlyric | The More I Know {tm} |
| 18:35.02 | Kaydeethree | hrm... I wonder. it's name leads me to believe that it bulk mails stuff |
| 18:35.12 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 18:35.20 | NimbleRabit | yeah... |
| 18:35.21 | Gngsk | kenlyric, orange = branch |
| 18:35.22 | hyperChipmunk | Kaydeethree: that's very observant of you |
| 18:35.27 | NimbleRabit | I use gmail though and was just wondering exactly how it works |
| 18:35.33 | Kaydeethree | captain obvious, at your service |
| 18:35.33 | NimbleRabit | postal* |
| 18:35.59 | hyperChipmunk | what bulkmail does is let you set up rules for items to send to different characters |
| 18:36.08 | hyperChipmunk | like |
| 18:36.36 | hyperChipmunk | I send all my gems to my friend, and herbs to my girlfriend, and all my miscellaneous stuff to an ah mule |
| 18:36.51 | NimbleRabit | ahh |
| 18:36.54 | Lyfe | which, is great if you keep doing that. |
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| 18:37.09 | hyperChipmunk | so i make the appropriate rules for them, and set the default to my mule |
| 18:37.23 | NimbleRabit | that's actually pretty neat |
| 18:37.25 | hyperChipmunk | and it'll queue them up in a list to send whenever i go to the mailbox |
| 18:37.46 | hyperChipmunk | and i just hit send and they all go to their appropriate places |
| 18:37.49 | NimbleRabit | really neat in fact, I send just about everything to my mule so that would be useful for me |
| 18:38.15 | hyperChipmunk | or i can filter to send only one person's stuff by putting their name in the To: field |
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| 18:39.35 | hyperChipmunk | and there's a quicksend that lets you hold down ctrl and shift and just click items individually. if they have a rule-defined destination, they'll go immediately to that person, or my mule if there isn't a rule for that item |
| 18:40.15 | NimbleRabit | So if I understand this correctly, I could set it up so all motes and primals auto send to my mule when I go to the mailbox |
| 18:40.20 | kenlyric | can it be really smart, like sending all green boes? :) |
| 18:40.23 | hyperChipmunk | righto |
| 18:40.36 | NimbleRabit | ok, getting it now |
| 18:40.40 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: you can set blizzard types |
| 18:40.42 | Josh_Borke | sounds like another mod on wowi |
| 18:40.52 | hyperChipmunk | so set Armor and Weapons |
| 18:41.02 | hyperChipmunk | it won't add nonmailable items |
| 18:41.15 | hyperChipmunk | so non-bound armor and items will automatically go |
| 18:41.28 | kenlyric | crazysexycool |
| 18:41.40 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: can you set quality? to ensure only greens go, in case you pick up a blue boe that doesnt suck? |
| 18:41.48 | Awaa | gg, server shutdown primtime in EU :/ |
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| 18:41.58 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i'll probably add more rule types |
| 18:42.02 | kenlyric | Awaa: heh, just like US last night :) |
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| 18:42.20 | kenlyric | trunk that bitch! ;) |
| 18:42.29 | hyperChipmunk | but for now, you can just alt-click it off the list |
| 18:42.34 | kergoth | cool |
| 18:42.38 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, is there a way to make it so a certain item won't send |
| 18:42.53 | hyperChipmunk | or set that item as an exclude rule |
| 18:42.53 | NimbleRabit | oh |
| 18:42.53 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 18:42.53 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: ^-- |
| 18:43.23 | hyperChipmunk | i tried to keep the rules system simple |
| 18:43.33 | hyperChipmunk | it's just include and excludee |
| 18:43.51 | hyperChipmunk | and there's no compound rules |
| 18:44.04 | Kilroo | Potato |
| 18:44.41 | hyperChipmunk | plz let me know if that nil error pops up for anyone, though |
| 18:44.52 | omega_ | I say potato, you say potato |
| 18:44.58 | omega_ | is just doesnt sound as nice in written |
| 18:45.00 | hyperChipmunk | it breaks the entire system, and i can't reproduce |
| 18:45.59 | NimbleRabit | do I have to do /reloadui or restart WoW to get an addon I just downloaded to run |
| 18:46.30 | Ominous | nilble: new addon or new files restart, updated then /rl |
| 18:46.48 | NimbleRabit | k |
| 18:47.16 | hyperChipmunk | i really want to get this to the main trunk so people can get it with files.wowace.com, but that nil bug is a show-stopper |
| 18:47.41 | NimbleRabit | I just downloaded it from files.wowace |
| 18:47.46 | NimbleRabit | was that bad? |
| 18:48.02 | hyperChipmunk | that's the old clunky version |
| 18:48.34 | kenlyric | hyper, just give a different name :) |
| 18:48.39 | kenlyric | bulkmails ;) |
| 18:48.42 | NimbleRabit | if you want me to check for a bug gimme a link to the version you want me to download |
| 18:48.52 | hyperChipmunk | yea, making my own zip, NimbleRabit |
| 18:48.55 | hyperChipmunk | gimme sec =) |
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| 18:50.06 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: so i presume it uses profiles, so by default the send rules are global, not char specific? or..? |
| 18:50.15 | hyperChipmunk | they're realm |
| 18:50.35 | hyperChipmunk | defauld destination is char |
| 18:50.49 | hyperChipmunk | i dunno how to do profiles yet =p |
| 18:51.22 | harldephin | does modifying the viewport explicitely have an influence on the game's overall graphical performance ? |
| 18:52.06 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: heh, okay, and i presume its smart enough to not try to mail stuff to myself, if i had a rule to, say, send all gems to this char, adn go to the mailbox as that char |
| 18:52.12 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 18:52.18 | kergoth | col |
| 18:52.20 | kergoth | er, cool |
| 18:52.38 | hyperChipmunk | if not, then that's a bug and let me know ;) |
| 18:53.03 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: http://69.14.77.214/BulkMail-0.9.zip |
| 18:53.39 | hyperChipmunk | if that works for the three of you, i'll go ahead and trunk it |
| 18:54.00 | kenlyric | I should keep the embeds, just to be safe? |
| 18:54.17 | hyperChipmunk | may as well |
| 18:54.21 | hyperChipmunk | won't hurt =p |
| 18:54.35 | kenlyric | nah, real word testing, doood |
| 18:54.40 | kenlyric | word? |
| 18:54.43 | kenlyric | damn broken fingers |
| 18:55.08 | NimbleRabit | what shall I do to see if I get the error |
| 18:55.11 | NimbleRabit | go to a mailbox? |
| 18:55.23 | kenlyric | d'oh. First step, disable postal. |
| 18:55.48 | NimbleRabit | postal is awesomesauce |
| 18:56.58 | hyperChipmunk | the error should happen when you load the UI |
| 18:57.10 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 18:57.17 | hyperChipmunk | actually, the way it is now, you won't get the error |
| 18:57.27 | Ominous | :D |
| 18:57.32 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 18:57.49 | hyperChipmunk | just type '/bm autosend edit' and make a destination |
| 18:58.06 | hyperChipmunk | click include and tell me if the periodictable menu looks complete |
| 18:58.11 | kenlyric | NimbleRabit: yeah, but mail mods don't play well together. |
| 18:58.29 | NimbleRabit | I have no idea if it's complete, lots of stuff in the menu |
| 18:58.36 | hyperChipmunk | great=) |
| 18:58.43 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, so how do I make it send primals and motes besides adding each item individutally |
| 18:58.59 | hyperChipmunk | ought to be a PeriodicTable set for them |
| 18:59.27 | hyperChipmunk | sec, lemme see if i can figure out what it is |
| 18:59.32 | kergoth | [2007/05/16 11:46:04-1003-x1]: BulkMail-0.9.0\BulkMail.lua:649: attempt to index local 'curmenu' (a nil value) |
| 18:59.47 | hyperChipmunk | blast |
| 19:00.01 | NimbleRabit | seems I may want a mod that tells me item ID's |
| 19:00.14 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: yea, sorry about that for now =\ |
| 19:00.31 | kergoth | NimbleRabit: theres lots of addons that acn add itemid to the tooltip |
| 19:00.37 | kergoth | including mendeleev, tradeskillinfo, and others |
| 19:00.54 | NimbleRabit | and all of them do other stuff too though |
| 19:01.09 | hyperChipmunk | i haven't put the commandline-add back in yet so you can do itemlinks |
| 19:01.18 | kergoth | pretty sure there's a small one that does just itemid and itemlevel, but i cant remember the name |
| 19:01.20 | kergoth | :\ |
| 19:01.59 | hyperChipmunk | 649? |
| 19:02.09 | hyperChipmunk | what's line 649 for you? |
| 19:02.20 | NimbleRabit | no way to delete destinations? |
| 19:02.31 | hyperChipmunk | ctrl-click |
| 19:02.41 | hyperChipmunk | same with rules |
| 19:02.42 | kenlyric | periodic table sets seem rather limited. |
| 19:02.53 | hyperChipmunk | dang, forgot to put a hint for that |
| 19:03.22 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 19:03.28 | NimbleRabit | definitely need somewhere that says what the keybinds are to do stuff |
| 19:03.34 | sylvanaar | totally out of context |
| 19:03.52 | NeoTron | is there any way to force autolooting in, say, xloot? Because once 2.1 hits a friend will want me to prospect some 600 ore.. and prospect autoloot only works.. once |
| 19:03.53 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: prevmenu, curmenu = curmenu[cat], curmenu[cat].subMenu |
| 19:04.03 | sylvanaar | Fisker- yes, actually im done |
| 19:04.29 | kenlyric | NeoTron: yeah, doesn't that suck? |
| 19:04.33 | kenlyric | same for disenchanting. |
| 19:05.02 | kergoth | probably a blizzard screwup, usually is |
| 19:05.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:05.41 | Ominous | does anyone use ClassTimer here? |
| 19:06.06 | kenlyric | hmmm.. this mod usage isn't very intuitive. who designed periodic table sets? |
| 19:06.18 | hyperChipmunk | the periodictable set for it is Tradeskill->Mat->ByType->Primal |
| 19:06.29 | hyperChipmunk | or mote |
| 19:06.46 | kenlyric | I have Bag/Container/Misc/Questmats/Reagents at the top level. |
| 19:06.58 | hyperChipmunk | that's it? |
| 19:07.04 | kenlyric | that's all I've ever had. |
| 19:07.10 | hyperChipmunk | ok excellent |
| 19:07.16 | hyperChipmunk | give me some time to work with it |
| 19:07.21 | kenlyric | I remember from when I played with baggins. |
| 19:07.29 | kenlyric | i'm using standalones though. |
| 19:07.36 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 19:07.58 | kenlyric | Once I make a destination, what do I do with it? |
| 19:08.01 | hyperChipmunk | there's 14 toplevel categories atm |
| 19:08.05 | hyperChipmunk | you make rules for it |
| 19:08.11 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, so I added an autosend fot pt3.tradeskill.gather.disenchant |
| 19:08.13 | hyperChipmunk | click include |
| 19:08.16 | kenlyric | ok, I made one "Trade Goods" |
| 19:09.05 | hyperChipmunk | ok, now go to a mailbox and all your trade goods should be queued |
| 19:09.09 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: using svn? |
| 19:09.39 | hyperChipmunk | you get to be my new guinea pig =) |
| 19:09.50 | NimbleRabit | I also added Tradeskill.mat.ByProffesion.Enchanting |
| 19:09.53 | NimbleRabit | but with both of those |
| 19:09.59 | NimbleRabit | it didn't send my arcane dust |
| 19:10.03 | NimbleRabit | or queue them |
| 19:10.11 | hyperChipmunk | alright |
| 19:10.15 | hyperChipmunk | lemme do some work |
| 19:10.17 | hyperChipmunk | any errors? |
| 19:10.26 | NimbleRabit | no |
| 19:10.27 | Ominous | any idea what causes this .. http://ace.pastey.net/32173 .. to be added to the top of my e-mails |
| 19:10.33 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: yeah, svn, 0.9 branch |
| 19:10.49 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Miranda@86.210.212.171) |
| 19:11.06 | kenlyric | nothing at all happens. |
| 19:11.10 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: if you take the first clause out of line 639, do you get a nil error? |
| 19:11.29 | hyperChipmunk | wtb bugs happening to me =\ |
| 19:12.01 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, yeah no matter what I do I can't seem to get it to queue anything automatically. No errors though and the queue window thing does pop up when I click send. |
| 19:12.15 | kenlyric | same for me. |
| 19:12.29 | kenlyric | though, no I'm wondering what I need to do to fix PT :) |
| 19:12.31 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, OH nevermind! I figured out what I was doing wrong |
| 19:12.33 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, working find |
| 19:12.35 | NimbleRabit | fine* |
| 19:12.37 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
| 19:12.42 | kenlyric | you did? |
| 19:12.44 | kenlyric | tell me :) |
| 19:12.49 | hyperChipmunk | did you have it open when you made your rules? |
| 19:13.13 | NimbleRabit | No but I had an i in the to: field |
| 19:13.14 | NimbleRabit | that I didn't see |
| 19:13.18 | hyperChipmunk | right now it processes the rules when you open the mailbox |
| 19:13.18 | kergoth | man, i need to cut some addons out of my set |
| 19:13.19 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 19:13.24 | kergoth | making a change and reloading the ui takes forever |
| 19:13.27 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that filters them donw to that person |
| 19:13.53 | hyperChipmunk | so you would have only seen the stuff that you had desired to send to 'i' =) |
| 19:14.01 | NimbleRabit | ugh I need to disable postal |
| 19:14.10 | kenlyric | what are leather and ore? |
| 19:14.23 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: no, you're right |
| 19:14.32 | hyperChipmunk | i think i know what's wrong there |
| 19:15.28 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 19:15.30 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: |
| 19:15.31 | NimbleRabit | could you make it have checkmarks next to things already included |
| 19:15.43 | hyperChipmunk | what do you mean? |
| 19:15.50 | kergoth | Cryect: so i have to ask, what does recount do that violation doesnt? |
| 19:15.58 | NimbleRabit | like if I click Primals, a checkmark shows up next to it |
| 19:16.04 | hyperChipmunk | ooh |
| 19:16.11 | NimbleRabit | it would be extremely nice |
| 19:16.13 | hyperChipmunk | on the menu? |
| 19:16.14 | NimbleRabit | yes |
| 19:16.23 | hyperChipmunk | i'll see if i can =) |
| 19:16.26 | hyperChipmunk | good suggestion |
| 19:16.34 | kenlyric | hmmm., no I can't make the autosend rules window go away. |
| 19:17.19 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: the close button is broken? |
| 19:17.21 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 19:17.24 | hyperChipmunk | i sux =\ |
| 19:17.29 | kenlyric | no, the whole window was broken. |
| 19:17.29 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, another request. Make it so you can ctrl+click items in the queue to remove them one by one |
| 19:17.46 | hyperChipmunk | alt-click |
| 19:17.50 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: I predict this is something that sucks on my end. |
| 19:18.15 | NimbleRabit | heh, it's confusing that you ctrl+click to remove things that are included while working in the bulkmail menu and to delete recipients |
| 19:18.19 | NimbleRabit | but alt-click there |
| 19:18.37 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 19:18.45 | hyperChipmunk | well alt click is there for adding items from bags |
| 19:18.52 | hyperChipmunk | well, toggling |
| 19:18.59 | NimbleRabit | ahh |
| 19:19.01 | hyperChipmunk | i'll do it the other way around |
| 19:19.05 | hyperChipmunk | i'll make alt-click remove rules |
| 19:19.19 | Cryect | CIA disabled again? |
| 19:19.25 | hyperChipmunk | that's more consistent |
| 19:19.30 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net) |
| 19:19.32 | hyperChipmunk | Cyrez: no, he's here |
| 19:19.41 | NimbleRabit | one more thing that would be visually pleasing would be to show who the items are gonig to be sent to in the queue window |
| 19:19.49 | Cryect | heh well its quiet hasn't said anything recently |
| 19:19.58 | hyperChipmunk | i did ctrl-click just because that's how baggins did it |
| 19:20.07 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: already have that written down, but thanks =) |
| 19:20.10 | NimbleRabit | =D |
| 19:20.19 | NimbleRabit | man I love this mod |
| 19:20.31 | *** join/#wowace ScriptNinja0 (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 19:20.33 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 19:20.39 | NimbleRabit | I just cleared like 15 spaces of my inventory without even realizing I had that much junk |
| 19:20.44 | kenlyric | so, anyone have any ideas about my PT issue? |
| 19:21.01 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: update your PT =p |
| 19:21.08 | kenlyric | just did this morning. |
| 19:21.15 | hyperChipmunk | then stop suxing |
| 19:21.22 | hyperChipmunk | do you have allData too? |
| 19:21.27 | kenlyric | and leather should be a trade good, right? |
| 19:21.34 | kenlyric | I have whatever SAL gives me |
| 19:21.34 | hyperChipmunk | yes; but that's my fault |
| 19:21.46 | hyperChipmunk | i can't get my trade goods to show either =) |
| 19:22.02 | hyperChipmunk | i think it has to do with the fact that it's an item type without a subtype |
| 19:24.24 | kenlyric | NimbleRabit: what filters dd you use? |
| 19:24.24 | kenlyric | I just tried consumable and that does nothing either. |
| 19:24.25 | NimbleRabit | PT3.Tradeskill.mat.ByProffesion.Enchanting |
| 19:24.25 | NimbleRabit | for arcane dust etc. |
| 19:24.25 | NimbleRabit | and Tradeskill->Mat->ByType->Primal |
| 19:24.25 | NimbleRabit | for primals |
| 19:24.25 | kenlyric | ok, finally got something to work, with my arrows. |
| 19:24.25 | NimbleRabit | [2007/05/16 12:22:59-518-x1]: BulkMail\BulkMail.lua:8: attempt to index global 'PeriodicTableEmbed' (a nil value) |
| 19:24.51 | NimbleRabit | I disabled postal and now I get this error on login |
| 19:24.51 | NimbleRabit | and the addon doesn't work |
| 19:24.51 | sylvanaar | posted another build of wau 1.8 which uses the xml only |
| 19:25.41 | kenlyric | I have PT2, PT3, about 8 other folders for PT3 (Consumable, Gear, etc) and then inside of the PT3 folder, I have Alldata and Misc |
| 19:26.03 | Lyfe | thinking about xml, is it preferrable in newer mods to use xml to define the gui, or to use code to generate it all? |
| 19:26.39 | NimbleRabit | kenlyric, all the consumable, gear, etc. folders are Inside of my PT3 folder |
| 19:27.31 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, I have no idea why but after relogging bulkmail isn't working and I'm getting [2007/05/16 12:22:59-518-x1]: BulkMail\BulkMail.lua:8: attempt to index global 'PeriodicTableEmbed' (a nil value) |
| 19:27.43 | vhaarr | that's the trunk version |
| 19:28.44 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: did you restart wow? |
| 19:28.52 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, no I don't think so |
| 19:29.10 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, I disabled some addons but I tried re-enabling them. Haven't restarted WoW unless my memory really sucks. |
| 19:31.26 | Fisker- | i hug you Boubouille |
| 19:31.34 | Boubouille | rly ? |
| 19:31.37 | kenlyric | hmmm... all those other PT sets have their own directory... that means they're LoD, right? |
| 19:31.45 | kenlyric | so maybe they're not getting loaded on ... uh, my demand? |
| 19:31.57 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: restart and let me know if you still get it, if you could please |
| 19:32.18 | Fisker- | ya rly Boubouille |
| 19:35.38 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, works |
| 19:36.15 | kenlyric | that's one of the mods that defnitely needs a fubar plugin for config.. that's shit you'd change every day. |
| 19:36.41 | kenlyric | it does look promising, especially when I fix my PT issue :) |
| 19:36.51 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: thanks =) |
| 19:36.58 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: got a fix for your trade goods thingy |
| 19:37.07 | kergoth | [Ammo]: you're gonna do an overhealing module for violation right? |
| 19:37.54 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, what is the command to open the include/exclude menu I was using to edit autosends before. I can't seem to find it now and i'm wondering if that's just me being dumb |
| 19:38.25 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.26 | hyperChipmunk | /bm autosend edit |
| 19:38.35 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.41 | hyperChipmunk | /bm as edit ..yea |
| 19:38.51 | kenlyric | really should be /bm as ed |
| 19:38.54 | NimbleRabit | heh I wonder why that command is gone for me |
| 19:39.00 | kenlyric | or just /bae |
| 19:39.13 | hyperChipmunk | then something's broked =p |
| 19:39.37 | NimbleRabit | how exactly are things breaking just by me relogging and restarting? T_T |
| 19:40.03 | kenlyric | PeriodicTable-3.0, 3.0-AllData, and 3.0-Misc folders are all inside PeriodicTable-3.0 folder in my addons folder. |
| 19:40.07 | kenlyric | this sounds borked to me. |
| 19:42.34 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Forcing a autoloot is impossible. |
| 19:42.34 | *** join/#wowace art3mis (n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:42.35 | Hjalte | Is there any way i can check if other players in the raid are using Violation? |
| 19:43.16 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, yeah I can't get the edit option back and I have no idea what I did besides restart WoW. I might have accidentally installed some new addon when I did it or something T_T |
| 19:43.16 | Fisker- | kergoth by standard it substracts overhealing |
| 19:43.19 | Arrowmaster | you could use VersionChecker |
| 19:43.36 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: type /ace enable BulkMail |
| 19:43.38 | hyperChipmunk | what does it say? |
| 19:43.48 | NimbleRabit | already enabled |
| 19:44.06 | hyperChipmunk | type /dump BulkMail |
| 19:44.20 | NimbleRabit | lots of crap |
| 19:44.31 | hyperChipmunk | and /bulkmail says nothing? |
| 19:44.38 | NimbleRabit | no no it does |
| 19:44.57 | NimbleRabit | the EDIT option is gone though, I can do /bulkmail as and it lists stuff I can do for autosend |
| 19:45.00 | NimbleRabit | but edit is not one of them |
| 19:45.13 | hyperChipmunk | what happens when you type edit? |
| 19:45.40 | NimbleRabit | Bulkmail: [edit] is not a valid option for /bulkmail as |
| 19:45.41 | kenlyric | when I was just working in it, clear CONFIRM didn't work. |
| 19:45.46 | hyperChipmunk | weird |
| 19:45.48 | kenlyric | it just silently didn't work though. |
| 19:45.51 | hyperChipmunk | try list =) |
| 19:45.56 | hyperChipmunk | /bm as list |
| 19:46.09 | NimbleRabit | bothing happens |
| 19:46.12 | NimbleRabit | nothing* |
| 19:46.34 | kergoth | Fisker-: i know, i'm asking if there'll be an overheal module so we can see who did the most overhealing. |
| 19:46.38 | hyperChipmunk | sure you didn't go back to the old version? =x |
| 19:46.47 | NimbleRabit | maybe I did on accident |
| 19:46.47 | hyperChipmunk | is there an 'add' option? |
| 19:46.54 | NimbleRabit | yeah |
| 19:47.02 | hyperChipmunk | then you went back to the old one =) |
| 19:47.13 | NimbleRabit | oopsie |
| 19:47.15 | hyperChipmunk | /bonk |
| 19:47.16 | NimbleRabit | I have no idea how I did that |
| 19:47.18 | kenlyric | did you update using WAU? ;) |
| 19:47.32 | NimbleRabit | wau is open but I don't remember hitting update |
| 19:47.34 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 19:48.09 | hyperChipmunk | poltergeists |
| 19:48.22 | trh | alzheimers |
| 19:48.53 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 19:48.58 | kenlyric | this is what my folderlist for PT looks like http://www.monolithicguild.com/screenshots/test.JPG |
| 19:49.48 | *** join/#wowace NimbleRabit (n=Nimble_R@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 19:49.50 | hyperChipmunk | i dunno anything about WAU or SAL or anything; i've only used svn |
| 19:50.24 | NimbleRabit | You know what would be nice, something that automatically gets rid of the name in To: field |
| 19:50.25 | kenlyric | but do your pt folders look like that? :) |
| 19:50.26 | NimbleRabit | when you click send |
| 19:50.38 | NimbleRabit | because I keep not having bulkmail do everything forgetting that a name is there from before |
| 19:50.45 | hyperChipmunk | i don't have PT folders |
| 19:50.57 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: good idea |
| 19:51.03 | NimbleRabit | kenlyric, mine don't look like that no |
| 19:51.09 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: i just have the embedded |
| 19:51.33 | NimbleRabit | all of those -Gear, -Consumable, etc. |
| 19:51.36 | NimbleRabit | are inside of my pt3 folder |
| 19:53.03 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r35626 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: |
| 19:53.03 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: 0.9 |
| 19:53.03 | CIA-23 | - Use Alt-click instead of Ctrl-click to remove rules/destinations from the list |
| 19:53.03 | CIA-23 | - Blizzard item types with no subtypes should work now |
| 19:53.50 | hyperChipmunk | that should fix your Trade Goods problem |
| 19:54.08 | NimbleRabit | hey I was just about to come here and say |
| 19:54.12 | NimbleRabit | that trade goods did nothign for me |
| 19:54.14 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 19:54.33 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: did you get a nil error when you made that edit on line 639? |
| 19:54.53 | kenlyric | so, i'm fairly certain the issue is that those parts aren't loading on demand like they're suppose to. |
| 19:55.10 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: be more demanding |
| 19:55.27 | hyperChipmunk | don't take 'no' for an answer! |
| 19:55.33 | kenlyric | but then again, what's the point of AllData? |
| 19:55.48 | hyperChipmunk | it has all the data |
| 19:55.56 | kenlyric | so it should all load from there? |
| 19:55.58 | hyperChipmunk | ...shockingly |
| 19:56.45 | hyperChipmunk | if it loads, it ought to |
| 19:57.02 | hyperChipmunk | did you delete the one embedded in BulkMail? |
| 19:57.19 | kenlyric | yeah. |
| 19:57.53 | hyperChipmunk | then you're on your own with all the LoD stuff =p |
| 19:57.53 | kenlyric | this explains so much about why baggins sucked so bad. |
| 19:57.54 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 19:58.24 | Fisker- | yes i won in pvp! |
| 19:58.33 | Fisker- | holy paladin beats warrior |
| 19:58.34 | hyperChipmunk | maybe you should just let the addons load the stuff they need |
| 19:58.36 | sbu | uhm but you are a paladin? |
| 19:58.39 | sbu | haha |
| 19:58.41 | sbu | lvl 5? |
| 19:58.43 | Fisker- | no |
| 19:58.45 | Fisker- | level 70 |
| 19:58.51 | Fisker- | took me 10 minutes to kill him |
| 19:58.54 | trh | def warrior? |
| 19:58.55 | hyperChipmunk | i think he means the warrior |
| 19:59.01 | hyperChipmunk | was the warrior level 5? |
| 19:59.02 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, how do I set it up to send all cloth except netherweave |
| 19:59.02 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 19:59.07 | Fisker- | he had fury gear |
| 19:59.11 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: heh, I leave it up to the addons what they load :) |
| 19:59.13 | Fisker- | dunno if he was defense/fury though |
| 19:59.28 | kenlyric | I just press the buttons. |
| 19:59.45 | Fisker- | He tried to run away 3 times |
| 19:59.46 | Fisker- | :D |
| 19:59.48 | *** join/#wowace FrostByghte (n=FrostByg@70-250-240-34.ded.swbell.net) |
| 19:59.58 | Fisker- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Cruelis |
| 19:59.58 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: use the appropriate periodic table for cloth as the include rule, and use netherweave's itemid as an exclude rule |
| 19:59.59 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 20:00.14 | hyperChipmunk | sec, i'll find the itemid for ya |
| 20:00.22 | Hjalte | rophy, ping |
| 20:00.23 | hyperChipmunk | or you can look it up on wowhead or something |
| 20:00.36 | hyperChipmunk | if you go to the item's page, that last number in the URL is the itemid |
| 20:00.54 | NimbleRabit | k |
| 20:01.24 | NimbleRabit | there's plans for a better way to do it right? |
| 20:01.30 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 20:01.36 | NimbleRabit | worked brilliantly though, thanks |
| 20:01.50 | kenlyric | heh, fatality only 1/4 of the way through blue bar. |
| 20:02.04 | hyperChipmunk | the dewdrop input editbox doesn't let you click in items |
| 20:02.18 | NimbleRabit | although when I clicked send the runecloth x 4 blinked, then showed up in the queue again. I clicked send again and it disappeared and nothing else happened since it had already been sent |
| 20:02.55 | hyperChipmunk | you'll be able to do it like the old way, with /bm autosend add <destination> [item link] [another item link] |
| 20:03.02 | kenlyric | lol, babble went away. |
| 20:03.08 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: k |
| 20:04.11 | rophy | hi Hjalte |
| 20:04.13 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, man thanks a ton for this mod. I think soon I'll be wondering how I ever lived without it |
| 20:04.23 | Hjalte | rophy, you're the author of simplecombatlog, right? :) |
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| 20:05.03 | rophy | ya |
| 20:06.02 | Keita | hello |
| 20:06.16 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: appreciate having someone to use it =) |
| 20:06.19 | Keita | :'( i can't make a frame to show using just lua..... if I could only get the border and background going.... |
| 20:07.27 | hyperChipmunk | Keita: find another addon that does and start ripping off code =D |
| 20:07.57 | Keita | hyperChipmunk: i know... i treid usinf Sniff, but |
| 20:07.59 | NimbleRabit | Anyone familiar with addons want to help me figure out how to delete the alt-click to send part of postals Express module? |
| 20:08.17 | Keita | grrrr |
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| 20:08.34 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: is there a /postal option or something? |
| 20:08.37 | Keita | du u have ne one in mind hyperChipmunk? |
| 20:08.38 | Hjalte | rophy, thanks for a great addon, but today i started getting this error http://ace.pastey.net/32201 |
| 20:08.45 | NimbleRabit | there is but all it has is enable, profile, about |
| 20:09.06 | hyperChipmunk | i think it's there in the modules folder |
| 20:09.22 | hyperChipmunk | it's all in one file |
| 20:09.29 | hyperChipmunk | you should be able to delete/rename it |
| 20:09.39 | NimbleRabit | express does more than just that though |
| 20:09.48 | hyperChipmunk | if it's properly modular, it shouldn't be a problem |
| 20:09.56 | hyperChipmunk | i dunno then |
| 20:10.13 | NimbleRabit | oh well, I'll jus disable that module for now |
| 20:10.18 | hyperChipmunk | Keita: no idea >8P |
| 20:10.58 | NimbleRabit | or maybe I'll just start deleting parts of the code and trying =D |
| 20:11.43 | kenlyric | so yeah, the PT3 package is fucked. |
| 20:11.52 | kenlyric | moving all those folders into the PT3 folder made it work fine. |
| 20:12.23 | kenlyric | and now I completely understand why people love PT :) |
| 20:12.25 | hyperChipmunk | oh, that must've been during the time when WAU was doing crazy stuff with LoDs |
| 20:12.45 | Keita | hyperChipmunk: most use HTML, not lua |
| 20:12.49 | hyperChipmunk | i seem to recall there being lots of fuss over that about a month ago |
| 20:12.54 | hyperChipmunk | Keita: you mean XML |
| 20:13.04 | Keita | ges |
| 20:13.05 | Keita | yes* |
| 20:13.07 | Keita | lol |
| 20:13.08 | hyperChipmunk | what kind of frame do you want to make/ |
| 20:13.24 | sylvanaar | how can it not work? |
| 20:13.36 | Keita | just a frama, with a border and a background, from there I think I can get the idea and go on |
| 20:15.02 | kenlyric | so great, wau doesn't like embeds, and now it doesn't like standalones. |
| 20:15.02 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, let me know when it's on files.wowace so I can set it up in addon updater |
| 20:15.11 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: what did you say about 1.8? :) |
| 20:15.21 | sylvanaar | its been updated |
| 20:15.24 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: will do |
| 20:15.34 | kenlyric | so by definition that means it exists? |
| 20:15.51 | hyperChipmunk | if there's anything we've learned today, it's that it's not quite ready for prime time =) |
| 20:16.20 | hyperChipmunk | i'm gonna have to do some more work, so i wouldn't expect it to be there until at least tomorrow |
| 20:16.28 | NimbleRabit | that's cool |
| 20:16.40 | NimbleRabit | I just don't like not getting the updates when I upate all my addons |
| 20:19.53 | Keita | ok, so is XML SO bad as not to ues it? |
| 20:20.03 | Josh_Borke | not at all |
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| 20:22.11 | Keita | I really admire all you developers getting things to work with such litte documentation |
| 20:22.26 | Josh_Borke | Keita: lol :-D |
| 20:22.36 | Tain | Admire me, I'm the greatest. |
| 20:22.53 | Tain | :d |
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| 20:22.57 | Tain | hey wait |
| 20:23.00 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.01 | Tain | That wasn't supposed to do that |
| 20:23.14 | Tain | Oh no hC stole my sauce code! |
| 20:23.41 | hyperChipmunk | and it's delicious! |
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| 20:25.00 | kergoth | what are good paladin addons? |
| 20:25.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:25.09 | Velkyn | PalyPower |
| 20:25.40 | Megalon | auramap! |
| 20:26.01 | Keita | hoe do u do the emote messages} |
| 20:26.03 | Keita | ? |
| 20:26.22 | Gngsk | /me farts. |
| 20:26.31 | Kaydeethree | DoEmote("dance") |
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| 20:29.53 | hyperChipmunk | /target chicken /script for i = 1, 100 do DoEmote("cluck") end |
| 20:30.38 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: hypothetical. say multiple sets contain the same cat somewhere. say that cat had no categories underneith it, so your loop nil'd its submenu. say the next time that cat was encountered, curmenu[cat] wasn't nil, so a new table wasnt added, but subMenu was still nil from the previosu time it was encountered. |
| 20:30.56 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: that -appears- to be what's happening, but self:Print() debugging is limited, and this isnt my code, so.. |
| 20:31.22 | kergoth | i dunno |
| 20:31.22 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: that's what i was thinking |
| 20:31.35 | kergoth | i do know taht when its nil, curmenu[cat] was not nil |
| 20:31.44 | hyperChipmunk | i just stopped it from nilling out the empty subMenu |
| 20:32.34 | Velkyn | I am encounter an odd error with GemList, whenever someone tries to whisper me now it says "<NAME> wants to use GemList but the Jewelcrafting panel has not yet been opened." |
| 20:32.36 | hyperChipmunk | just doing .hasArrow = nil is enough to do what i want |
| 20:32.43 | hyperChipmunk | i was just being thorough |
| 20:32.45 | Velkyn | It gives me this error even after opening the JC window. |
| 20:33.19 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: i'm about to commit it like that; can you tell me if it fixes? |
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| 20:35.38 | Megalon | Velkyn: this is because GemList scans the jewelcrafting window for the 2.1 crafting menu |
| 20:35.56 | Megalon | for jewelcrafting there are som headerchanges |
| 20:36.18 | Velkyn | Megalon: Gotcha, so until 2.1 comes out I am needing to use an older version... |
| 20:36.47 | Velkyn | Megalon: Would you have to know where I could snag one (though I may have one in backup folder) |
| 20:37.04 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: will do |
| 20:37.23 | Megalon | Velkyn: you can edit the GemList.lua yourself if you want |
| 20:37.31 | hyperChipmunk | thanks, finishing up one more nitpicky thing before i commit =) |
| 20:37.32 | Megalon | Velkyn: i don't know in which version it got changed |
| 20:37.52 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r35627 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: |
| 20:37.52 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: 0.9 |
| 20:37.52 | CIA-23 | - another hopeful fix for the curmenu nil error |
| 20:37.52 | CIA-23 | - destination trees now properly unfold |
| 20:37.55 | Velkyn | Megalon: What am I looking for in the lua, just change 2.1 to whatever the current version of WoW is? |
| 20:37.58 | hyperChipmunk | try that =) |
| 20:38.25 | Megalon | Velkyn: GemList.lue line:385 if skillType == "header" and skillName == L["Blue"] then |
| 20:38.31 | Megalon | Velkyn: change it to: if skillType == "header" and skillName == L["Gems"] then |
| 20:38.54 | Megalon | as in 2.1 the gems will be sepperated by color, not just one class 'Gems' for all gems |
| 20:39.09 | Velkyn | Megalon: Thank you sir, I logged in and got like 15 tells of people trying to use it who couldnt. I would hate to actually do real work and link stuff to them by hand :) |
| 20:39.21 | nymbia | kinda silly to make the trunk version incompatible with 2.0 when it's still live |
| 20:39.42 | Megalon | yea, i also wondered why it wasn't adding new gems at all, even with a /gemlist scan forced scan |
| 20:40.20 | CIA-23 | 03seerah * r35628 10ClearFont2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:40.20 | CIA-23 | ClearFont2: |
| 20:40.21 | CIA-23 | - changed file name of Default Calibri font so that SharedMedia doesn't confuse v0.9 with v1.0 |
| 20:40.21 | kenlyric | nymbia: but but but, I was told that couldn't possibly happen ;) |
| 20:40.29 | Velkyn | To throw something else out there that you might know the answer to; have you heard anything about the Combine addon? |
| 20:40.33 | Xuerian | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/programmes/panorama/default.stm o.0 |
| 20:40.47 | Megalon | nymbia: yea, i thought you could detect if it's 2.0 or 2.1 in lua, and then just make the right comparison for the search |
| 20:40.52 | nymbia | kenlyric: huhwha? |
| 20:40.57 | nymbia | Megalon: yeah, you can |
| 20:41.00 | kenlyric | nymbia: that was my response :) |
| 20:41.11 | nymbia | kenlyric: lol |
| 20:41.24 | NimbleRabit | nymbia, what does the snoop plugin for manufac do exactly |
| 20:41.28 | kenlyric | when I expressed trepidation over updating my addons now that people were coding, several people want to know why. |
| 20:41.37 | kenlyric | *wanted |
| 20:42.00 | nymbia | NimbleRabit: lets you browse other professions in the FuBar menu |
| 20:42.01 | kenlyric | I won't name names buy they make very popular addons! |
| 20:42.29 | NimbleRabit | nymbia, how do I use it exactly |
| 20:43.14 | kergoth | so how does one configure buklmail? |
| 20:43.34 | hyperChipmunk | /bm as edit |
| 20:43.52 | nymbia | NimbleRabit: just stick it in addons and it should add new entries to the fubar menu |
| 20:44.25 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r35629 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: |
| 20:44.25 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: 0.9 |
| 20:44.26 | CIA-23 | - Fixed indentation on the rules tablet so it's easier to read |
| 20:45.33 | NimbleRabit | nymbia, I click toggle or w/e in the Modules section in the manufac fubar menu |
| 20:45.41 | NimbleRabit | nymbia, but nothing seems to change |
| 20:46.08 | nymbia | NimbleRabit: hrm |
| 20:48.43 | NimbleRabit | nymbia, it also doesn't stay "toggled" on when I relog |
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| 20:56.06 | stavmar | does Yata have a conflict with cy-circled? |
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| 21:03.53 | stavmar | nymbia: I got two errors when downloading latest Quartz in case you have not seen them. http://ace.pastey.net/32236 |
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| 21:08.58 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r35630 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail-enUS.lua BulkMail.lua): |
| 21:08.58 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: 0.9 |
| 21:08.58 | CIA-23 | - Added Hint to autosend rules tablet with usage instructions |
| 21:08.58 | CIA-23 | - more indentation cleanliness |
| 21:08.58 | CIA-23 | - 'None' printed for rulesets without rules |
| 21:09.19 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: works fine now |
| 21:09.26 | kergoth | as expected |
| 21:10.42 | kenlyric | fubarfubarfubar |
| 21:11.06 | kenlyric | don't whine, you alpha using nooblet! |
| 21:11.22 | kergoth | NightHawkTheSane: the svn commit logs warned it would happen :P |
| 21:11.38 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: i suppose if I had read those, i would have known. ;) |
| 21:11.42 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: <3 |
| 21:11.48 | NightHawkTheSane | and I'm not -really- whining, i'm just being a prick ;) |
| 21:11.57 | kenlyric | hey, me too! |
| 21:12.09 | kenlyric | brothers don't shake hands, brothers gotta HUG! |
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| 21:13.59 | Bruners | p4hire are slipping through SpamSentry now |
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| 21:16.25 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: i coulda saved them, but i decided not to so i could annoy you |
| 21:16.36 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: aww, i knew you cared. :) |
| 21:16.52 | FroMaster | Is there a WowAce like replacement for Natur Castbars? I've looked at WitchHunt but that doesn't quite compare |
| 21:17.28 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: while i'm being a pain in the ass... Is there any reason that the "default" position for the GCD bar isn't flush with the cast bar? as opposed to 5px above it... |
| 21:18.03 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: i blame .. uh... you. |
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| 21:18.47 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35631 10Quartz/GCD/GCD.lua: |
| 21:18.48 | CIA-23 | Quartz_GCD |
| 21:18.48 | CIA-23 | - Tweak default positioning. |
| 21:18.52 | nymbia | ;) |
| 21:19.21 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: lol. |
| 21:19.41 | NightHawkTheSane | I was honestly just curious why, It wasn't a problem to just adjust the gap by -5px ;) |
| 21:19.43 | kebinusan | FroMaster: theres Antagonist |
| 21:20.03 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: it wasn't a problem to change the 2 to a 4, either ;) |
| 21:20.10 | Fisker- | nymbia ! |
| 21:20.10 | NightHawkTheSane | fair enough |
| 21:20.14 | nymbia | Fisker-: ! |
| 21:20.22 | Fisker- | instanceloot doesn't show porung cause i tries to open up InstanceLoot |
| 21:20.24 | Fisker- | which doesn't exist |
| 21:20.36 | Fisker- | (z0r) |
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| 21:20.40 | nymbia | Fisker-: ooh |
| 21:20.40 | FroMaster | kebinusan: Thank you. I was looking through the list in WAU but there are soo many listed and the descriptions are a bit short. I'll give it a try now |
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| 21:21.19 | Bam__ | morning :P |
| 21:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: okay, one more thing, then i promise to stop. Is it intentional that it's, uh, not possible to make new timers via the waterfall/dewdrop interfaces? |
| 21:24.55 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: i dunno, i kinda halfassed that options table right before i went to sleep last night. what breaks? |
| 21:25.59 | Bam__ | sleepy code :P |
| 21:26.04 | NightHawkTheSane | .... see, now that I go back and try to look, it's working fine. >< |
| 21:26.11 | nymbia | heh ;) |
| 21:26.28 | NightHawkTheSane | But before the "make timer" button/menu item was disabled |
| 21:26.35 | nymbia | hrm |
| 21:26.46 | NightHawkTheSane | and the new timer length didn't seem to hold a time. |
| 21:26.50 | nymbia | well make sure you have a value entered in both boxes and it should enable |
| 21:26.59 | nymbia | oh, i should do something with that |
| 21:27.06 | nymbia | right now it only takes integers in seconds |
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| 21:27.20 | nymbia | i should make it take stuff like '3m' or '6.8h' |
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| 21:29.44 | Matrix110 | ah nymbia |
| 21:29.58 | Matrix110 | please add a option to the Latency Module so we can move the ping text |
| 21:30.08 | Matrix110 | if you dont embed you cant view it with time @right |
| 21:30.24 | Matrix110 | displaying it under the bar orso would solve it |
| 21:30.31 | nymbia | Matrix110: ok |
| 21:30.44 | Matrix110 | thanks:) |
| 21:31.30 | art3mis | nymbia can you make it do my dishes for me too? that would be sweet, thanks! |
| 21:31.41 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r35632 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_Raid.lua Decursive.lua): |
| 21:31.42 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 21:31.42 | CIA-23 | - Fix a issue when closing Decursive's main window when Decursive is in standby. |
| 21:31.54 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, so is there no way to specify green versus gray? For example, I want all my BoE green gear to go to a disenchanter friend but obviously sending grays to him wouldn't be good |
| 21:37.37 | art3mis | sure there is |
| 21:37.42 | art3mis | it's called quality |
| 21:38.10 | hyperChipmunk | no quality rule yet |
| 21:38.32 | NimbleRabit | darn |
| 21:38.40 | NimbleRabit | kinda important T_T |
| 21:39.13 | vhaarr | not really, just visit a vendor with tekJunkSeller first |
| 21:39.18 | hyperChipmunk | sell the greys before you go to the mailbox, for now, or just altclick them off the list |
| 21:40.12 | NimbleRabit | true vhaarr |
| 21:40.21 | NimbleRabit | but there are blues ane epixx as well |
| 21:40.25 | NimbleRabit | I'll just altclick them off for now though |
| 21:40.37 | hyperChipmunk | i'm making a global exclude list now |
| 21:42.18 | NimbleRabit | also I dunno if you've noticed this but you can't expand one person at a time |
| 21:42.23 | NimbleRabit | in the autosend edit |
| 21:42.35 | NimbleRabit | mind is about the entire height of the screen right now since they all open at once |
| 21:42.37 | NimbleRabit | mine* |
| 21:42.43 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 21:42.45 | hyperChipmunk | i fixed that |
| 21:42.48 | hyperChipmunk | in svn |
| 21:42.57 | NimbleRabit | ahh cool |
| 21:43.05 | NimbleRabit | takes a lot of space to put in every weapon and armor type |
| 21:43.06 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 21:43.13 | CIA-23 | 03ulic * r35633 10LittleWigs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:43.13 | CIA-23 | LittleWigs: |
| 21:43.13 | CIA-23 | Added Zereketh the Unbound |
| 21:43.13 | CIA-23 | Tweaks to Warchief & Dalliah |
| 21:44.27 | hyperChipmunk | you can just download http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/BulkMail/0.9/BulkMail.lua and http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/BulkMail/0.9/BulkMail-enUS.lua |
| 21:44.27 | hyperChipmunk | and overwrite the ones in your directory |
| 21:44.27 | hyperChipmunk | poor-man's svn =) |
| 21:44.34 | nymbia | lol |
| 21:44.53 | hyperChipmunk | should the global exclude be per-character or per-realm? |
| 21:44.56 | hyperChipmunk | i'm thinking per-char |
| 21:45.12 | NimbleRabit | per char |
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| 21:47.31 | NimbleRabit | nymbia, quartz rocks |
| 21:47.41 | Xuerian | It does. |
| 21:47.42 | Xuerian | it totally does. |
| 21:47.46 | nymbia | :) |
| 21:47.58 | NimbleRabit | this latency thing is just too cool |
| 21:47.59 | art3mis | keep in mind that zeurian said the same thing about hanson |
| 21:48.07 | art3mis | xeurian |
| 21:48.08 | Xuerian | 0.o |
| 21:48.14 | Xuerian | Hanson? |
| 21:48.29 | art3mis | mmmm bop |
| 21:48.30 | CIA-23 | 03gagorian * r35634 10DrDamage/BuffScanning.lua: |
| 21:48.31 | CIA-23 | DrDamage: |
| 21:48.31 | CIA-23 | - Added berserking texture check, again |
| 21:48.37 | Xuerian | 0.o |
| 21:49.25 | NimbleRabit | nymbia, I don't quite get the "embed" option though. Does it make it so that you would continue casting after the end of the bar unless you move? |
| 21:51.52 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, heavenly inspiration and oshu'gun relic don't trigger shared CDs on each other. o_0 |
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| 21:56.59 | CIA-23 | 03jncl * r35635 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned SpamSentry |
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| 21:57.13 | NimbleRabit | Hey guys just curioius, why is it !buggrabber and not just buggrabber |
| 21:57.27 | Arrowmaster | so it loads before other mods |
| 21:57.45 | NimbleRabit | ahh |
| 21:58.29 | CIA-23 | 03rydika * r35636 10ClearFont2_FontPack_3/ (Fonts/Centaur/ Fonts/Centaur/Centaur.ttf ReadMe.txt core.lua): |
| 21:58.29 | CIA-23 | ClearFont2_FontPack_3: - |
| 21:58.29 | CIA-23 | Added a new Font Face: Centaur |
| 21:59.54 | Fisker- | too bad spamsentry frame is useless in next patch anyways |
| 22:00.25 | trh | wouldn't count on it too early |
| 22:01.18 | art3mis | ya know im surprised there hasnt been an aqua teen hunger force colon the movie film for theatres release |
| 22:01.34 | Fisker- | why not? |
| 22:02.40 | Bam__ | because addon authors often do a better job than Blizz :P |
| 22:03.01 | kaiden^ | Question, Anyone know of a downloadable mining/herbalism database for cartographer? :) |
| 22:03.46 | Bam__ | kaiden^: there is or was a thread on the forum with some links... I downloaded one from there a while ago |
| 22:03.50 | kaiden^ | Bam__, only problem is addons dont always catch on, ie that LFG system that whats her name wrote |
| 22:04.14 | kaiden^ | it was a crazy cool lfg system that actually worked and had great potential but not many people used it so it didn't do as well as it could have |
| 22:04.55 | Bam__ | yes im not saying Blizzard shouldn't make improvements and it's fine they take ideas from addons too |
| 22:05.15 | Bam__ | still lots of people don't use addons... so they will be served better |
| 22:06.07 | Fisker- | Bam__ the frame itself is still useless |
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| 22:06.17 | Fisker- | the frame is used to create a ticket which is not possible in 2.1.0 |
| 22:06.41 | Bam__ | ok but there are new API functions for that... so anti-spam addons might be even easier to implement |
| 22:06.46 | kenlyric | kaiden^: I wouldn't bother getting a database now. |
| 22:06.51 | kenlyric | mining nodes are moving in 2.1 |
| 22:06.55 | Fisker- | don't need a frame for the new function |
| 22:06.58 | Bam__ | kenlyric: they are? |
| 22:06.59 | Fisker- | it's fire and forget anyways |
| 22:07.11 | kenlyric | yeah, it was in the patch notes. |
| 22:07.21 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: they're actually moving? I thought they were just triggering agro on nearby mobs |
| 22:07.22 | kenlyric | they're moving them closer to mobs/the paths people travel |
| 22:07.27 | Bam__ | ok.. you are only talking about the frame itself.. didn't quite catch that :P |
| 22:07.29 | kenlyric | that's a different patch note. |
| 22:07.34 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, must have missed that note. |
| 22:07.36 | kenlyric | and that applies to herbs too. |
| 22:08.39 | kenlyric | guess it's not in the patch notes. |
| 22:08.56 | kenlyric | probably something a blue said that never got implemented. |
| 22:09.15 | kenlyric | awesome, there are still a bundch with no mobs around them :) |
| 22:09.32 | Bam__ | so clearing herb/mining database would be a good idea when 2.1 comes, I guess |
| 22:09.33 | Arrowmaster | it was in the patch notes |
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| 22:13.03 | Josh_Borke | bb |
| 22:17.43 | kenlyric | The location of many of the Outland mineral nodes have been adjusted both to put them in locations that are more traveled and to make them more likely to be near creatures. |
| 22:20.21 | kenlyric | i win! |
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| 22:28.35 | harl|WoW | is there currently an Anea present ? |
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| 22:31.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ~seen Anea |
| 22:32.12 | purl | anea <n=apyss@a62-251-8-41.adsl.xs4all.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15d 4h 54m 28s ago, saying: 'working on a clean install with just opera as irc client, guess i'll have to download something better'. |
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| 22:34.59 | harl|WoW | oh |
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| 22:43.37 | Herio | ~seen tekkub |
| 22:44.04 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 9h 55m 35s ago, saying: 'and yea, with a tell when they're done'. |
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| 22:45.28 | Industrial | Anyone use the opera browser? |
| 22:45.29 | Industrial | How do I make opera select the tab to the right of the current or the most right tab if its the last one when I close the current tab? |
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| 22:49.29 | Awaa | Industrial, not sure. maybe in opera:config |
| 22:50.37 | Industrial | wha! |
| 22:50.40 | Industrial | thanks |
| 22:50.45 | Industrial | didnt know that existed |
| 22:51.42 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r35637 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Sync boss deaths by default for all boss modules using GenericBossDeath. |
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| 22:52.52 | CIA-23 | 03toadkiller * r35638 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:52.52 | CIA-23 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 22:52.52 | CIA-23 | - Fix Consumable.Weapon Buff.Stone.Sharpening Stone |
| 22:54.47 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, the spam from "item cannot be mailed" is annoying. I have it set to send all types of armor to a friend (basically so it will send boe greens for disenchanting) and all my BoP gear in inventory spams chat |
| 22:54.55 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, an option to disable maybe? |
| 22:55.27 | hyperChipmunk | hm, no that's a bug |
| 22:55.35 | hyperChipmunk | automatically-added stuff shouldn't print the message |
| 22:56.42 | Industrial | Awaa: couldnt find it in there though |
| 23:00.34 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk, Oh. Ok then--bug report =D |
| 23:01.11 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r35639 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:01.11 | CIA-23 | FuBar_WhisperFu |
| 23:01.11 | CIA-23 | Changes from Azonia, I'm just the committer |
| 23:01.11 | CIA-23 | -Added a menu item to purge spam blocked tally |
| 23:01.11 | CIA-23 | -Added a menu item for reinstate default keywords (use this with each new version so that you get any new spam keywords I add) |
| 23:01.12 | CIA-23 | -tweaked add new keyword function slightly |
| 23:01.14 | CIA-23 | -tweaked whisper blocking to allow spam keywords from GMs |
| 23:03.02 | NightHawkTheSane | committer? i hardly know her! |
| 23:04.24 | Roartindon | heh.. sometimes you just have to take the plunge! |
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| 23:05.02 | Kilroo | I love you guys :) |
| 23:08.13 | kergoth | i miss having less than 200 dirs in my addons dir |
| 23:08.17 | kergoth | it was nice |
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| 23:14.37 | vhaarr | haha, 200, that's quite a lot |
| 23:14.55 | vhaarr | I have 121 |
| 23:14.59 | kergoth | /opt/wow/Interface/AddOns$ svn ls|wc -l |
| 23:14.59 | kergoth | 257 |
| 23:15.03 | kergoth | course thats with standalones, but even so |
| 23:15.06 | art3mis | o' |
| 23:15.08 | art3mis | o |
| 23:15.13 | vhaarr | ah, right |
| 23:15.19 | art3mis | o'rly? i hardly know her! |
| 23:15.33 | vhaarr | and I run with Cartographer, SEE, etc as one addon |
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| 23:24.21 | xlvii | mm |
| 23:26.14 | Industrial | art3mis: xkcd! |
| 23:26.21 | Industrial | Do I get a cookie? |
| 23:27.00 | Industrial | haha :) |
| 23:27.48 | Industrial | I mean; haha <:P |
| 23:28.17 | art3mis | heh yeah indust |
| 23:28.31 | art3mis | i ordered that map of the internet |
| 23:28.35 | art3mis | cuz it's awesome |
| 23:28.37 | Industrial | :o |
| 23:28.47 | Industrial | yeah it really is |
| 23:29.14 | art3mis | SCIENCE: It Works Bitches! |
| 23:29.22 | art3mis | i kinna want that t-shirt too ;P |
| 23:31.24 | harl|WoW | what's the limit number of variables to be possibly put into a single string ? |
| 23:33.54 | Industrial | howmuch ram do you have? |
| 23:33.57 | Industrial | :) |
| 23:34.13 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r35640 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Clean up CheckForWipe, CheckForEngage and Scan, hopefully it still works, but this might break, so someone help me test it please. |
| 23:34.48 | Wogroipl | nymbia: the Quartz merge tradeskill addons throws an error on login, already known or? |
| 23:35.40 | winkiller | can I get a Target of party member/raid member like in xperl? |
| 23:35.45 | nymbia | Wogroipl: what're you using to update |
| 23:36.05 | Wogroipl | I used WUU last time |
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| 23:36.22 | Industrial | nevcairiel: ping |
| 23:36.31 | winkiller | *in pitbull |
| 23:36.44 | nymbia | Wogroipl: the directory name changed, delete the old one. |
| 23:37.28 | Wogroipl | Quartz_TradeskillMerge is the old one? |
| 23:37.42 | nymbia | yup |
| 23:38.02 | Wogroipl | done! Thanks a lot |
| 23:38.05 | nymbia | :) |
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| 23:42.38 | NightHawkTheSane | winkiller: yes, enable it in the fubar menu |
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| 23:43.42 | winkiller | where there |
| 23:44.21 | winkiller | if it's the same as minimap icon, which Ihave |
| 23:44.28 | winkiller | got it |
| 23:44.36 | winkiller | disabled modules :) |
| 23:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 23:44.50 | NightHawkTheSane | wee! broke 1k +heal. |
| 23:45.01 | NightHawkTheSane | only 73 mp/5, though. :\ |
| 23:47.46 | Laric | NightHawkTheSane what class? |
| 23:47.55 | NightHawkTheSane | shaman |
| 23:48.00 | Laric | ah |
| 23:50.24 | winkiller | fuck. scaling party targets lets wow freeze |
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| 23:52.06 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: ping |
| 23:55.21 | hyperChipmunk | yo |
| 23:55.33 | Neebler | So I transferred to a server a couple of days ago to join the #1 guild on the server. Today they're disbanding |
| 23:55.37 | Neebler | I have such awesome luck |
| 23:55.51 | Neebler | and make such awesome decisions joining a server with only 1 good guild |
| 23:55.53 | winkiller | lol |
| 23:57.11 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: so, i put netherweave cloth in an autosend rule to my ah alt. what do i do to get it to actually -send-, though? |
| 23:57.43 | hyperChipmunk | go to a mailbox? |
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| 23:57.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i did. even typed in the alt's name.. nothing seemed to happen? |
| 23:58.18 | hyperChipmunk | download this one i'm about to commit and re-make the rule =) |
| 23:59.02 | NightHawkTheSane | also, on an entirely unrelated note: http://www.specialfarm.net/macgyver2008.html |
| 23:59.10 | NightHawkTheSane | MacGyver in 2008, woo! |
