| 00:00.48 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: Good book, though a bit excessively preachy for selfish values. |
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| 00:01.10 | ckknight | warning: may cause obesity, libertarianism, and neckbeards |
| 00:01.24 | kenlyric | also, interestingly, the values most humans have :) |
| 00:01.39 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r35450 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: |
| 00:01.39 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: |
| 00:01.42 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.52 | ckknight | neckbeard is not a value |
| 00:04.07 | Ominous_ | heh in the time it took for FuBar_RogueTimerFu to use 38KiB of memory ClassTimer used 14 |
| 00:05.05 | Bam__ | if a library is loaded but no addon holds a reference to it, will it eventually be GC'd? |
| 00:05.35 | vhaarr | a library isn't loaded unless an addon uses it |
| 00:05.39 | vhaarr | provided it's lod |
| 00:06.06 | Bam__ | if it's listed as a required dependency for some reason? |
| 00:06.17 | vhaarr | then the author needs some spankin' |
| 00:06.41 | Bam__ | yea im sure... but will it be collected? |
| 00:06.58 | Bam__ | in other words.. does AceLibrary only hold a weak reference to it? |
| 00:07.40 | Berkz | Is it possible for me to have my addon show / hide actionbars that bartender3 is controlling ? |
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| 00:08.56 | art3mis | words cannot explain how wrong this is |
| 00:09.08 | art3mis | http://files.filefront.com//;7456489;/ <--- warlock soloing heroic slave pens |
| 00:09.37 | vodrin | most of it is total mob pathing cheese |
| 00:10.03 | Amadeo | that's not impressive if it's pathing |
| 00:10.22 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35451 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/Rogue.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: fix all in on bars, more get name options %n - says which name and %u - says whicn unit |
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| 00:11.49 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35452 10ClassTimer/Bars/General.lua: ClassTimer: apparently i hadent added general.lua |
| 00:11.57 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r35453 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: |
| 00:11.57 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: |
| 00:11.58 | CIA-23 | - add warning for when wrath is casted |
| 00:11.58 | CIA-23 | - do a target scan to provide an early warning of who wrath is casted on |
| 00:19.31 | Industrial | Amadeo: "pathing" ? |
| 00:21.27 | NightHawkTheSane | exploiting mob pathing to make them keep running toward you but never actually get to you before you kill them :P |
| 00:22.15 | Gngsk | creative use of game mechanics |
| 00:23.43 | Megalon | mobs can't jump :( |
| 00:24.42 | Industrial | thats pretty dumb then |
| 00:24.43 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:24.53 | ZealotOnAStick | What's a good way, on Windows XP, to split a large text file into two files at a given line number. With a free tool if I have to download something. |
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| 00:27.10 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35454 10ClassTimer/ (Locales/enUS.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: added new options to usage and locale |
| 00:28.13 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r35455 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua CHANGELOG): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:28.13 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: 0.9.0 beta -- **TESTING PHASE: USE AT YOUR OWN RISK** |
| 00:28.13 | CIA-23 | - Complete interface and logic overhaul |
| 00:28.13 | CIA-23 | - Now uses a simple rules-based system for autosending. Currently, three rule |
| 00:28.13 | CIA-23 | types are available: item ID, Blizzard item type/subtype, and PeriodicTable-3.0 |
| 00:28.14 | CIA-23 | sets. Items corresponding to rules in the 'include' list will be processed |
| 00:28.17 | CIA-23 | first, then rules in the 'exclude' list will be removed to achieve the final |
| 00:28.27 | Gngsk | w00t |
| 00:28.31 | hyperChipmunk | /rude CIA-23 |
| 00:29.52 | hyperChipmunk | ruleset. |
| 00:30.10 | hyperChipmunk | - Use /bm autosend edit to access the autosend rules menu |
| 00:30.24 | hyperChipmunk | Guaranteed to Break (tm) |
| 00:30.25 | Kalman | Zealot: get it onto a shell account and use cut? |
| 00:33.36 | NeoTron | hyperChipmunk: ooh. Spam software for WoW? :P |
| 00:33.37 | Jagobah | Hey nymbia :o |
| 00:33.37 | NeoTron | now I can do my own gold site spamming? |
| 00:33.37 | Jagobah | hmm |
| 00:33.37 | hyperChipmunk | if you can figure out a way to spam your site via items, then sure |
| 00:33.37 | Jagobah | Guess I gotta sign up on wowace forums to report a Quartz bug |
| 00:33.38 | Berkz | can some1 tip me if I can send order to other addons through my own. like if I want bartender3 to show/hide some actionbar... |
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| 00:33.41 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r35456 10BigWigs_Debugger/ (. Debugger.lua): BigWigs_Debugger: add logging for self and party damage, for special abilities |
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| 00:34.26 | NeoTron | The mouse mouse - http://www.instructables.com/id/SBRATKXF0YPF7M4/ |
| 00:34.34 | hyperChipmunk | Berkz: sure, if the functions you want aren't local to teh file |
| 00:34.49 | Bam__ | Berkz: if there is a slash command that does it, you can send that via the SendChatMessage (I think it's called that= |
| 00:35.14 | Berkz | slash command is just so sloppy |
| 00:35.40 | Angry_Dwarf | so like.. pitbull.. for ToT and party targets I have color healthbar by class enabled but it only seems to work with members of my faction.. opponents are the default green |
| 00:35.46 | Bam__ | it's more sloppy using an undocumented function if the addon doesn't support it officially |
| 00:35.47 | Angry_Dwarf | is that just a limitation? |
| 00:40.29 | Gngsk | Angry_Dwarf, don't think it's a limitation as Aloft colors enemy nameplates by class |
| 00:41.26 | Angry_Dwarf | hrm |
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| 00:44.08 | Xuerian|AFK | ZealotOnAStick: Should be able to do it with any scripting language with the equivalent of php's file() :p |
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| 00:47.12 | vid` | wow |
| 00:47.24 | vid` | $42k for wow 5v5 tourney winner in louisville, ky |
| 00:47.38 | Xuerian | Daymn. |
| 00:47.42 | vid` | http://www.thewsvg.com/rules/wow |
| 00:47.51 | vid` | 64 teams max |
| 00:47.58 | vid` | er no im sorry its 3v3 |
| 00:48.28 | Angry_Dwarf | that prizes figure is probably total prizes given away |
| 00:48.30 | Angry_Dwarf | not all to 1 team |
| 00:48.54 | Angry_Dwarf | top 3 or something probably all walk away with a portion |
| 00:49.34 | vid` | true :P |
| 00:49.53 | Angry_Dwarf | cause the one before that in china says 20.5k.. but power trip got 9k for winning |
| 00:50.11 | Angry_Dwarf | 2nd place got 4.5 |
| 00:58.16 | ckknight | alright, time to go paint some more |
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| 01:01.57 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r35457 10Aloft/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:01.57 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 01:01.58 | CIA-23 | - Tag data can now specify tags as numeric, even if the results aren't guaranteed |
| 01:01.58 | CIA-23 | - ManaPercent and ManaDeficit are now inlined tags |
| 01:01.58 | CIA-23 | - Annotated various tags with numeric type information |
| 01:04.45 | kergoth | meh |
| 01:06.47 | sbu | ckknight: paint? :o |
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| 01:09.59 | sbu | hm ckknight - i guess you are right, default setting is 8 buffs for party frames.. so thats the problem :o |
| 01:10.08 | Gngsk | he's not here |
| 01:10.10 | Gngsk | he's painting |
| 01:11.34 | kenlyric | what's the last possible moment you can cast something on the tank during nightbane's landing? 10 seconds before? |
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| 01:12.03 | Arrowmaster | so is somebody actually working on a new WAU? that doesnt have the problem of forgetting trailing 0's |
| 01:12.04 | Megalon | 15 |
| 01:12.12 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: indeed |
| 01:12.21 | NightHawkTheSane | forgetting trailing 0's? |
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| 01:12.42 | Megalon | kenlyric: when nightbane starts to move over the dome |
| 01:13.08 | sbu | kenlyric: prayer of mending > * :p |
| 01:13.15 | Arrowmaster | good, guildmate uses it and then makes his own zip for the rest of the guild to download for those that dont use WAU, and now people are running into library issues |
| 01:13.17 | Megalon | if you got a hunter, misdirection |
| 01:13.24 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.new#new |
| 01:13.27 | sbu | Megalon: sometimes nightbane doesn't care |
| 01:13.37 | Megalon | then it's the hunters fault |
| 01:13.44 | Megalon | useless bitches :P |
| 01:13.44 | kenlyric | sbu, yeah, but it only lasts 15 seconds. |
| 01:13.47 | sbu | 2 tank hits, 3 misdirection hits -> healer aggro, breath, wipe |
| 01:13.57 | kenlyric | so if I can't cast anything while he's landing, i goes away. |
| 01:14.00 | vid` | http://www.ampedesports.com/news/3511/Blizzard-Strikes-Again-Top-Teams-DQed/ |
| 01:14.18 | sbu | well - PoM drawn no aggro on you? |
| 01:14.22 | sbu | so doesn't matter |
| 01:14.30 | sbu | i usually cast it 2s before nightbane hits the tank |
| 01:14.35 | sbu | no problems at all |
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| 01:14.51 | Arrowmaster | i saw that this morning, sounds like people cring because they never read the EULA/AUP |
| 01:14.53 | sbu | while shield, renew, regular heal -> wipe ;p |
| 01:14.58 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r35458 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: log SPELLCAST_ interrupted, sent, channel_start, channel_stop |
| 01:15.23 | Megalon | you tell them not to heal you the last bit and bandage yourself |
| 01:15.27 | Megalon | + bloodrage |
| 01:15.38 | Megalon | and hope that this shield slam ain't a miss :P |
| 01:18.25 | kenlyric | sbu: we were told it was like firemaw, you cast anyhting on the tank during the pull, and you pull aggro to you. |
| 01:18.39 | kenlyric | and the casting of PoM is a slight bit of aggro (> than 0, at least :) |
| 01:18.56 | kenlyric | I suspected it wasn't true, because that's a long damn landing time. |
| 01:19.25 | kenlyric | and yeah, the tiny amount PoM does is much better than what Flash heal does after .5 seconds. |
| 01:19.26 | Arrowmaster | your out of combat until the actually landing so it cant be like that |
| 01:22.47 | Stephmw | wheeeeeeeeeee |
| 01:22.47 | Megalon | oh noes |
| 01:22.47 | kenlyric | ride the internet waves! |
| 01:22.47 | NightHawkTheSane | WEEEE NETSPLIT! |
| 01:22.47 | Megalon | banana split |
| 01:22.47 | Megalon | :< |
| 01:24.08 | kenlyric | damn, that was some kind of nightbane wipe. |
| 01:24.08 | kenlyric | it even broke irc. |
| 01:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | so, its your fault kenlyric? :P |
| 01:26.15 | kenlyric | that time it was. |
| 01:26.15 | kenlyric | I pulled aggro trying to time a flash heal to hit just as tank was taking damage. |
| 01:26.16 | kenlyric | be nice if just one week, we'd have a not-new tank on nightbane. |
| 01:26.16 | NightHawkTheSane | what happens to your old tanks? |
| 01:26.16 | kenlyric | attendance ftl. |
| 01:26.59 | kenlyric | this week, our best tank has the flu. He tried one attempt, but was passing out. |
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| 01:28.54 | kenlyric | then it was tank with no kara gear who has never run with us before, so you know that's a promising way to start :) |
| 01:28.54 | Roartindon | kenlyric: Sounds painful |
| 01:28.54 | kenlyric | it's like other people forget how long it took us to learn the fights here. |
| 01:29.01 | kenlyric | we did shade with two brand new melee dps, and they couldn't figure out why we were having such trouble. |
| 01:29.46 | kenlyric | shade with spotty interrupts is... not fun. |
| 01:30.35 | Roartindon | I hate doing shade with new healers |
| 01:30.42 | Roartindon | That don't know how to watch for blizzard |
| 01:30.55 | kenlyric | heh |
| 01:31.06 | kenlyric | of course, the healers got blamed for it. |
| 01:35.00 | kenlyric | granted, it was one of the healers fault, but not because of his healing :) |
| 01:35.17 | Megalon | what then, his moving? :p |
| 01:35.24 | kenlyric | it was his running through flame wreath *twice* and getting caught in blizzard once. |
| 01:35.35 | Roartindon | kenlyric: That is a pretty serious flaw |
| 01:36.01 | kenlyric | unfocus is a serious issue in the raids :( |
| 01:36.31 | kenlyric | why does nobody want my khorium? it's delicious! |
| 01:37.54 | Megalon | it isn't used for useful things pre-2.1 |
| 01:37.54 | kenlyric | somebody bought a stack of the raw stuff before, i swear. |
| 01:37.54 | kenlyric | ah, i'll hold on until then. |
| 01:37.57 | Roartindon | kenlyric: If they bought it, it was probably for a recipe in 2.1 :) |
| 01:38.15 | Megalon | all craftable weapons get added 10 khorium bars, and the epic engi gun needs 20 khorium bars |
| 01:38.26 | Megalon | so i think with 2.1 there will be some demand on khorium |
| 01:38.32 | kenlyric | woot! |
| 01:38.39 | kenlyric | mega epic demand. |
| 01:38.43 | Megalon | ! |
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| 01:39.52 | kenlyric | lol, stil no update to caster cloth crafted gear ;) |
| 01:39.52 | Arrowmaster | primal mooncloth got updated |
| 01:40.11 | Ordog | in what manner? |
| 01:40.22 | kenlyric | itemlevel upgrade, just liek every other level 70 epic. |
| 01:40.28 | Ordog | great ... |
| 01:40.30 | kenlyric | except, the caster sets :) |
| 01:40.42 | kenlyric | it means minor upgrades in just about all stats on each item. |
| 01:41.02 | kenlyric | I wonder if the other sets already had a high itemlevel. I've never checked. |
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| 01:44.06 | kergoth | whee |
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| 01:44.09 | Funkeh` | welcome back |
| 01:46.07 | Kalman | What's the /script to get the name of a frame you're mousing over? |
| 01:46.07 | nymbia | wot^ |
| 01:46.07 | kenlyric | no, YOU welcome back! |
| 01:46.07 | nymbia | Kalman: /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 01:48.08 | Kalman | Thanks, numbia. |
| 01:48.08 | Kalman | *nymbia |
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| 01:53.27 | nymbia | Funkeh`: terrible |
| 01:53.52 | Funkeh` | nymbia: hush |
| 01:54.25 | sbu | Cryect: wtf is this? :) |
| 01:54.56 | sbu | and it look awesome |
| 01:56.22 | Cryect | Its a damage meter in the vein of recap except with the goal of a lot more data analysis built in |
| 01:57.28 | kergoth | what is? |
| 01:59.23 | Cryect | This start of Recount http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1323/recounttestix4.jpg heh and the look of the window was inspired by Violation obviously (only wish the backend was more amenable to what I had in mind then wouldn't have to recode all this stuff but whatever) |
| 01:59.53 | vhaarr | Cryect: the "backend" is not done |
| 02:00.06 | Cryect | Yeah I know you told me that the other day :-p |
| 02:00.31 | vhaarr | it should ideally be able to do what you want as well |
| 02:00.36 | Cryect | Got tired of waiting and wrote my own in a few hours last night |
| 02:00.41 | vhaarr | what's missing, specifically? |
| 02:00.49 | vhaarr | Cryect: just work on violation instead? |
| 02:00.55 | vhaarr | there's a reason we have it open on the svn |
| 02:01.51 | Cryect | Violation uses Parserlib3.0 which is worthless for my purposes |
| 02:02.05 | vhaarr | it's not going to |
| 02:02.07 | vhaarr | we're switching to 1.1 |
| 02:02.22 | Roartindon | cryect: Available for download somewhere yet? |
| 02:02.28 | nymbia | 1.1 needs some work |
| 02:02.32 | vhaarr | 1.1 works fine |
| 02:02.34 | vhaarr | 3.0 doesn't |
| 02:02.54 | vhaarr | nymbia: but if it needs some work, rophy is here |
| 02:03.05 | vhaarr | I'm sure he'd be glad to fix problems |
| 02:03.05 | Cryect | Roartindon: no since you have to do great commands like /script Recount:CreateDetailWindow();Recount:FillUpperDetailTable(Recount.db.char.combatants["Cryect"].Attacks,TempDataFunc) |
| 02:03.14 | nymbia | 3.0's lacking a lot of 'not involving me' events since it's based on MSBT's parser |
| 02:03.38 | vhaarr | we're not going to use 3.0 anyway |
| 02:03.40 | vhaarr | so better fix 1.1 |
| 02:03.56 | nymbia | fair enough |
| 02:04.10 | nymbia | it's just a bit rough around the edges regarding new-ish events |
| 02:04.30 | Jagobah | Cryect is making a new damage meter :O ? |
| 02:04.32 | vhaarr | 1.1? |
| 02:04.39 | nymbia | vhaarr: yeah |
| 02:04.46 | vhaarr | rophy: hear that? :P |
| 02:04.51 | Cryect | hehe |
| 02:05.03 | Funkeh` | vhaarr i don't really agree, rophy is more afk than ckknight is :p |
| 02:05.15 | nymbia | vhaarr: when i was using it for mobmitigation, wand events weren't making it though at all, so be careful with that |
| 02:05.16 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: it has nothing to do with ckk |
| 02:05.23 | vhaarr | nymbia: alright |
| 02:05.32 | rophy | vhaarr: what what? |
| 02:05.40 | Funkeh` | hi rophy :D |
| 02:05.45 | vhaarr | rophy: nymbia is saying parser-1.1 isn't catching events |
| 02:05.51 | nymbia | rophy: we're making fun of your mother as well |
| 02:05.58 | rophy | what event? |
| 02:06.15 | Cryect | its not parsing his mom's events are you saying |
| 02:06.24 | Funkeh` | chat_msg_spell_wandpewpew |
| 02:06.30 | Cryect | apparently missing wands |
| 02:06.35 | nymbia | rophy: not sure of the event name off the top of my head, but wand hits |
| 02:06.36 | rophy | my mom's event doesnt belong to combat log events so it isnt supported. |
| 02:06.42 | vhaarr | Cryect: I can't force you to do anything with violation, of course, but I don't see the point in making your own thing when we're here and want help. |
| 02:07.00 | rophy | wand hits? i'm pretty sure wand hits show on SCL. |
| 02:07.06 | Funkeh` | they do |
| 02:07.26 | nymbia | rophy: it's very possible that it's changed in the meantime, the last time i checked was at least a couple months ago |
| 02:07.52 | rophy | wand hits was changed to melee events after TBC. |
| 02:07.56 | rophy | which was a couple months ago. |
| 02:07.59 | rophy | did you mean that? |
| 02:08.05 | onuris` | whats the LUA variable in pitbull to position with x/y coords? |
| 02:09.02 | nymbia | onuris`: for which frame? |
| 02:09.21 | kenlyric | shadow wands are still affected by shadowform and shadow weaving :) |
| 02:09.28 | onuris` | the player frame |
| 02:09.28 | Cryect | vhaarr: I think I have a much different ideas in mind for what I want, ideas that potentially could use a decent amount of memory etc |
| 02:09.31 | onuris` | the whole thing |
| 02:09.46 | rophy | nymbia: so you mean.... 1.1 needs some work because it was missing wand hits event a couple months ago? |
| 02:10.05 | vhaarr | Cryect: right, which is why the violation framework is supposed to be flexible, and modules can be disabled by default |
| 02:10.11 | vhaarr | Cryect: but fine, do your thing |
| 02:10.21 | vhaarr | if you don't want to, you don't want to |
| 02:10.23 | vhaarr | there's not more to it |
| 02:10.35 | onuris` | nymbia: i want to center the player frame in absolute middle |
| 02:10.52 | Arrowmaster | what kinda issues is parser-3.0 having? |
| 02:11.04 | nymbia | rophy: fair enough. apologies :) |
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| 02:11.14 | Cryect | parser 3.0 works fine for what events it has |
| 02:11.18 | Cryect | the problem is what events it has |
| 02:11.32 | rophy | nymbia: np just let me know if something needs to be fixed recently :p |
| 02:11.35 | onuris` | im looking in the SV for a section to set the frame to middle |
| 02:11.39 | nymbia | rophy: ok |
| 02:11.45 | ckknight | hey all |
| 02:11.47 | ckknight | Cryect: not as if it's hard to add events. |
| 02:11.51 | onuris` | yo |
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| 02:11.57 | nymbia | what the borders in shared media? when did that happen? |
| 02:12.04 | Funkeh` | just add the events to 3.0 its missing? |
| 02:12.05 | Arrowmaster | so add more events? |
| 02:12.11 | Funkeh` | would save switching vio over |
| 02:12.46 | vhaarr | it's going to use 1.1 whether 3.0 gets fixed or not |
| 02:12.47 | ckknight | why's that? |
| 02:12.53 | vhaarr | because SCT, EavesDrop and SimpleCombatLog uses 1.1 |
| 02:13.02 | ckknight | mmm... so? |
| 02:13.09 | vhaarr | so using 2 parsers doesn't make sense |
| 02:13.12 | Arrowmaster | actually i thought simplecombatlog stoped using 1.1 |
| 02:13.13 | ckknight | doesn't make it better |
| 02:13.14 | vhaarr | when we can use 1 |
| 02:13.23 | vhaarr | I didn't say it was better |
| 02:13.33 | vhaarr | I just said we're going to use 1.1 since users have that already |
| 02:13.34 | Funkeh` | true vhaarr |
| 02:13.35 | rophy | Arrowmaster: SCL still uses 1.1 and will not likely to change. |
| 02:13.42 | Funkeh` | most people already use SCT and so have P1.1 |
| 02:13.54 | ckknight | I don't use SCT |
| 02:14.02 | ckknight | or EavesDrop |
| 02:14.03 | ckknight | or SCL |
| 02:14.06 | Arrowmaster | oh, i swear i saw a commit message about using something internal |
| 02:14.19 | rophy | that is RosterLib. |
| 02:14.27 | Arrowmaster | ah doh |
| 02:14.31 | sbu | ckknight: plans to add isShadowForm, isInvisible, isShieldWall, isStealth to DogTag? :o |
| 02:14.37 | sbu | (or something like that) |
| 02:14.42 | ckknight | sbu: too hard to check auras. |
| 02:14.45 | onuris` | ck: please add a feature to position with coords and rel positioning :) ive been trying to edit the SV lua for hours :D |
| 02:14.53 | ckknight | onuris`: no. |
| 02:14.59 | Cryect | haha |
| 02:15.11 | Funkeh` | owned. |
| 02:15.21 | ckknight | onuris`: you can drag. be a big boy. |
| 02:15.22 | sbu | ckknight: and how do you detect druid forms? |
| 02:15.30 | Arrowmaster | draging sucks |
| 02:15.35 | Cryect | dragging is awful |
| 02:15.36 | ckknight | sbu: there's an event for when the portrait changes. |
| 02:15.42 | onuris` | aye, but my compulsiveness kicks in :P |
| 02:15.42 | sbu | oh i see, portrait/model stuff |
| 02:15.58 | ckknight | sbu: even then, if I had to check auras at that time, it'd be fine |
| 02:16.07 | ckknight | sbu: because it has an event attached |
| 02:16.08 | ckknight | shield wall doesn't |
| 02:16.15 | ckknight | it'd need to run every single aura change. |
| 02:16.31 | Cryect | Thats the thing I miss most from Discord was setting what frames attach to what etc could quickly make a neat looking UI |
| 02:16.41 | sbu | mh what about shadowform/stealth - no event there? |
| 02:16.46 | sbu | should be stance change? |
| 02:16.46 | Kalman | ck: I have screenshots of a couple of Pitbull bugs with the revision you upped today, if you'd like. |
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| 02:17.00 | ckknight | sbu: UNIT_AURA |
| 02:17.06 | sbu | meh :/ |
| 02:17.08 | ckknight | Kalman: what're the bugs? |
| 02:17.09 | sbu | evil |
| 02:17.18 | Arrowmaster | doesnt the portrait change for shadowform? |
| 02:17.27 | Kalman | Aura-related; auras being stretched and overlaying bar textures. |
| 02:17.35 | ckknight | Kalman: what layout are you using? |
| 02:17.54 | NimbleRabit | Is spamsentry currently working for everyone else? |
| 02:18.03 | Kalman | Seen it on abf and ouf and seerah. |
| 02:18.07 | Arrowmaster | works fine for me |
| 02:18.14 | ckknight | Kalman: okay. What revision? |
| 02:18.17 | Lyfe | so, there is a varying performance hit for different events? |
| 02:18.29 | Kalman | 35435. |
| 02:18.30 | Kaydeethree | the release build of SS from wowi's working fine |
| 02:18.30 | ckknight | Lyfe: some events happen more often |
| 02:18.31 | Arrowmaster | some events fire more than others |
| 02:18.32 | sbu | ckknight: hm ok - pitbull listens to aura changes but dogtag doesnt, right? |
| 02:18.39 | ckknight | right, sbu |
| 02:18.42 | Arrowmaster | and some events dont give you useful info in the args |
| 02:19.07 | NimbleRabit | Kaydeethree, what version is that? I'm using 35253 from files.wowace |
| 02:19.09 | ckknight | sbu: if I were to do a system like you're asking, I could add aura tracking, but I'm not sure it's worthwhile |
| 02:19.36 | sbu | no idea of the performance impact this would cause... |
| 02:20.02 | ckknight | sbu: yea, it'd cause a definite impact. |
| 02:20.05 | sbu | redundant aura check isnt that nice i guess? |
| 02:20.10 | Kaydeethree | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5552-SpamSentry.html |
| 02:20.14 | ckknight | auras fire very often. |
| 02:20.22 | Kaydeethree | 20070512-2 |
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| 02:24.36 | sbu | ckknight: http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7256/pitbullraidih6.png trying to make some sRF replacement with pitbull, but i'd really miss those 'shadowform', 'shieldwall', 'laststand', 'stealth' texts ;o |
| 02:25.04 | ckknight | sbu: I'm thinking of ways to do it efficiently |
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| 02:27.15 | sbu | ckknight: and it seems that filtered buffs are really affected by "max buffs" (i set it to 2, see screenshot ;o) - perhaps some option 'ignore max value when filtering' would be nice? |
| 02:27.41 | ckknight | sbu: how do you mean? |
| 02:27.45 | Kalman|work | ckknight: http://www.radiationnow.net/wow/pitbull_aurabug.jpg is the bug I referred to. |
| 02:28.11 | ckknight | Kalman|work: right. did you want to tell me what revision that started for you? |
| 02:28.30 | ckknight | oh |
| 02:28.33 | ckknight | zomg, sbu |
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| 02:28.45 | ckknight | sbu: wtf, I didn't put in that code |
| 02:28.55 | ckknight | sbu: granted, you did help me solve the riddle of the missing buffs. |
| 02:29.00 | sbu | ckknight: if you set max buffs to 2, filtering enabled and have >2 buffs it seems to be random which 2 are shown |
| 02:29.08 | Kalman|work | ckknight: Couldn't tell you what rev it started with. I know it's still occurring with current rev, though. |
| 02:30.59 | sbu | but order seems to be limit -> filter instead of filter -> limit (which should be fine then) |
| 02:30.59 | Kalman| | Someone else owns Kalman. :/ |
| 02:30.59 | Funkeh` | Kalman|: that was an ancinet bug fixed long ago, i haven't seen it in ages |
| 02:31.04 | Funkeh` | ancient* |
| 02:31.37 | Kalman| | The version I just pulled from files has it. |
| 02:31.55 | Funkeh` | clean install? |
| 02:32.15 | Kalman| | Nuked the folder, not the sv's though. |
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| 02:34.28 | ckknight | Funkeh`: actually it was never fixed, as I could never reproduce it |
| 02:34.28 | ckknight | I just did a bunch of Aura checking and assumed it was fixed |
| 02:34.28 | ckknight | which it should be |
| 02:34.28 | ckknight | but apparently isn't |
| 02:35.34 | Funkeh` | it was fixed |
| 02:35.39 | Funkeh` | the commit was revereted |
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| 02:37.33 | ckknight | Funkeh`: ? |
| 02:37.37 | ckknight | Funkeh`: it was? |
| 02:38.33 | Funkeh` | ckknight: if it wasn't, you would know about it |
| 02:38.46 | Funkeh` | ckknight: since it affected basically every use |
| 02:38.48 | Funkeh` | user* |
| 02:42.01 | ckknight | except me. |
| 02:43.16 | sbu | ckknight: hm and yep - it is "for num = 1, maxbuffs do" - and somewhere in that loop it checks for filtered buffs (which are already limited by maxbuffs) - this sucks :o |
| 02:43.31 | Funkeh` | but you generally are void of most errors, simply because a) you don't have the chance to test it in situation which most users do b) you don't like to use other mods |
| 02:44.44 | sbu | need some sleep now, goodnite then ;o |
| 02:47.54 | Funkeh` | ckknight: did they fix the framexml typo? |
| 02:49.36 | Funkeh` | lol ' I have found reporting to be pointless anyway. For every ticket I submit, I receive both a tell from a GM, as well as an in game mail thanking me. So by reporting one spam message, I receive two more.' |
| 02:52.59 | ckknight | yes, Funkeh` |
| 02:53.00 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35461 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 02:53.00 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura - I, sbu, and our friendly, talking dog solved the riddle of the missing buffs. |
| 02:53.00 | CIA-23 | "And I would've gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids" |
| 02:53.26 | ckknight | just took a shower |
| 02:53.26 | ckknight | and sbu, I think I figured out a way |
| 02:53.26 | Funkeh` | cool stuff |
| 02:53.26 | ckknight | using a specialized queuing system |
| 02:53.27 | ckknight | the aura stuff, I mean |
| 02:53.51 | ckknight | that's what I'll work on now, I suppose |
| 02:54.01 | ulic | Funkeh`: the new spamsentry supposedly puts a tag in the message that tells GM's not to reply. |
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| 02:54.15 | Lyfe | anyone know if there's still a set of GUI functionality in Ace2 (eg, something like there was with AceGUI), or is that being relegated to using the builtin stuff from blizzard? |
| 02:54.18 | Funkeh` | indeed it does |
| 02:54.21 | ckknight | ulic: they still reply. |
| 02:54.21 | Bruners | ckknight: its seems like pitbull wont display Greater Blessing of Salvation on party members |
| 02:54.22 | ulic | I just installed it today, so haven't tested it yet. |
| 02:54.24 | Funkeh` | but you still get and auto whisper |
| 02:54.27 | ulic | bummer |
| 02:54.31 | ckknight | Bruners: srsly, update |
| 02:54.41 | Xuerian | lyfe: For various things there are, like tablet and dewdrop, but not major things |
| 02:54.42 | ckknight | Bruners: I _just_ made a commit |
| 02:54.47 | Bruners | ckknight: aha :) |
| 02:54.51 | Roartindon | Xuerian: Waterfall too |
| 02:54.55 | Xuerian | Roartindon: Well yeah |
| 02:55.09 | Lyfe | so, specifically for the generalized cases of tablet, dewdrop and waterfall? |
| 02:55.16 | Bruners | ckknight: didnt see that, sorry my bad |
| 02:55.16 | Funkeh` | Lufe: dewdrop and WaterfallLib |
| 02:55.17 | Bruners | :) |
| 02:55.39 | Xuerian | Lyfe: Yeah something like that |
| 02:55.43 | ckknight | Bruners: test, though, please. |
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| 03:00.47 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r35462 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Fixed a bug with pie chart selection functions being called every frame if over a pie piece |
| 03:02.57 | CIA-23 | 03caldar * r35463 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua statusbar/Striped.tga): |
| 03:02.57 | CIA-23 | SharedMedia |
| 03:02.57 | CIA-23 | - Added Striped bar texture |
| 03:08.01 | Xuerian | Wee, more textures |
| 03:08.13 | Xuerian | Did that faded down lightstep texture ever make it in? |
| 03:08.57 | nymbia | ooh, where is it? |
| 03:09.04 | nymbia | call it "LiteStepLite" |
| 03:09.38 | Xuerian | Yeah, I tried adding it to my own thing.. Some guy posted his addon set with it, and I can't get it to work with surfaces for the life of me. Or is SharedMedia the NewCoolThing(tm)? |
| 03:10.30 | Roartindon | Xuerian: SharedMedia is where it's at :) |
| 03:11.09 | Xuerian | nymbia: Wanna add it? I'll dcc |
| 03:11.21 | *** join/#wowace Crazytrucker (i=ct@24-240-190-122.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:11.29 | Xuerian | Or hell, anybody |
| 03:11.30 | nymbia | Xuerian: sure |
| 03:11.54 | Crazytrucker | Anyone here happen to use pitbull? |
| 03:12.26 | Xuerian | Crazytrucker: You know what channel you're in, right? |
| 03:12.36 | NightHawkTheSane | its obvious no one here uses pitbull. *nods* |
| 03:12.43 | Xuerian | *Nodnod* |
| 03:12.45 | Roartindon | What's pitbull? |
| 03:12.46 | nymbia | i know i sure as hell dont |
| 03:13.58 | ckknight | Bulldog ftw |
| 03:13.58 | ckknight | gah. |
| 03:13.58 | undu | And here I was thinking Pitbull was a breed of dogs, not an addon. |
| 03:14.14 | Xuerian | Crazytrucker: What's the problem? :P |
| 03:14.53 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35464 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua statusbar/LiteStepLite.tga): |
| 03:14.53 | CIA-23 | SharedMedia: |
| 03:14.53 | CIA-23 | - Add LiteStepLite statusbar texture. ;) |
| 03:15.12 | NightHawkTheSane | litesteplite? |
| 03:15.15 | Xuerian | Now, how do I do what SurfaceControl did, for SharedMedia? :D |
| 03:15.30 | Roartindon | Xuerian: In what way? accessing stuff? |
| 03:15.31 | vhaarr | Xuerian: SurfaceControl takes care of SM as well. |
| 03:15.33 | Roartindon | Generating validation lists? |
| 03:15.35 | Xuerian | Oh. Nifty |
| 03:15.48 | Xuerian | Roartindon: Nuu, letting me set one texture for everything :p |
| 03:16.06 | Xuerian | Without, you know.... doing it for each one |
| 03:16.07 | Roartindon | Xuerian: ah.. yeah.. what vhaarr said :) |
| 03:16.15 | Crazytrucker | Oh sorry was messing with the /ace2 commands, well I had pitbull setup fine, then Warcraft crashed, I relogged in and then all the frames were gone. |
| 03:16.41 | Crazytrucker | So I tried to bring up pitbull again, deleted the .lua's enabled/disabled and it doesn't work |
| 03:16.59 | Crazytrucker | In ace2 it lists it as enabled but has next to it (standby) but I can't find a command to resume it >.< |
| 03:17.05 | Roartindon | Crazytrucker: When you said deleted the luas.. you mean the saved variable luas? |
| 03:17.06 | Angry_Dwarf | yeah you gotta re-enable with /script.. someone smarter can tell you the exact command |
| 03:17.15 | Roartindon | Crazytrucker: do /ptibull standby |
| 03:17.15 | ckknight | Crazytrucker: delete the SVs? |
| 03:17.19 | Crazytrucker | Yes sv's |
| 03:17.35 | ckknight | Crazytrucker: frankly, I don't believe you deleted them properly. |
| 03:17.54 | Angry_Dwarf | I had the same issue, when you disable pitbull even from the pulldown slash commands fail to work, even if you re-enable the addon with /ace or manually |
| 03:18.06 | Angry_Dwarf | I had to use /script to re-enable |
| 03:18.25 | vhaarr | Crazytrucker: /script PitBull:ToggleActive(true) |
| 03:18.50 | Crazytrucker | Bingo |
| 03:18.51 | Crazytrucker | :D |
| 03:18.51 | Xuerian | See. |
| 03:18.51 | Xuerian | We don't use it |
| 03:18.51 | Xuerian | We just fix it. |
| 03:18.53 | *** join/#wowace Neebler (n=BuM@adsl-70-140-218-33.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:18.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ill fix YOU! |
| 03:19.01 | Xuerian | We including me, of course, because I like... pointed at ck. |
| 03:19.12 | Crazytrucker | Its very nice addon |
| 03:19.27 | Angry_Dwarf | yeah, the disable function just works a little too well |
| 03:19.29 | Angry_Dwarf | =p |
| 03:21.08 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35465 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - remove the standby option. |
| 03:22.07 | Guillotine | Cart is giving a bunch of bugs :( Both with Babble having no zone for Hyjal and with TransposeZoneCoordinate being passed a nil value |
| 03:23.45 | ckknight | not my fault |
| 03:23.45 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r35466 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Fixes selection function not being called on entering a pie piece from outside the pie |
| 03:25.34 | sylvanaar | whats up folks? |
| 03:26.03 | Xuerian | Guillotine: Thought I saw someone commit hyjal fixes |
| 03:26.40 | sylvanaar | the mom has had her belated mother's day dinner, and im in a good mood...what needs fixing? |
| 03:29.16 | ckknight | ah, fuck |
| 03:29.37 | ckknight | out of prepaid wow time |
| 03:29.38 | Xuerian | 0.o |
| 03:29.40 | *** join/#wowace sbu_ (n=sb@dslb-084-056-128-012.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 03:29.42 | Xuerian | Woo, a friend! |
| 03:30.04 | ckknight | anybody wanna give me money? |
| 03:30.07 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:30.16 | Xuerian | Me too, while you're at it :D |
| 03:30.19 | rubik | default npc miss % is 5.0? at even level, i mean? |
| 03:30.29 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, if someone's giving out money, i could use some |
| 03:30.34 | Cryect | yeah at even level thats correct |
| 03:30.36 | NightHawkTheSane | rubik: yes |
| 03:31.29 | rubik | thanks.. and decreases by how much per extra level? (or what is it at level 70 vs. a lvl 73 npc) |
| 03:32.01 | Xuerian | rubik: WoWWiki should have the formula for that |
| 03:32.05 | Cryect | 8.6% |
| 03:32.48 | Xuerian | http://www.wowwiki.com/Miss |
| 03:32.58 | Cryect | its the Defense & Weapon skill difference + 0.2% per extra level against NPC's |
| 03:33.18 | Guillotine | I blame Funkydude for the Cart changes |
| 03:33.33 | Guillotine | hes the last one to make the changes |
| 03:33.37 | Guillotine | riot! |
| 03:33.58 | Xuerian | Rabble rabble rabble! |
| 03:34.23 | Cryect | btw on wowwiki its normally best to assume their formulas are wrong till tested |
| 03:34.30 | Cryect | heh unfortunately that is |
| 03:34.31 | *** join/#wowace PHL-Chuck (n=chatzill@pool-141-151-22-117.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:34.32 | Xuerian | But, but, but |
| 03:34.37 | Xuerian | It's name has wiki in it |
| 03:34.39 | Xuerian | it must be true |
| 03:34.46 | Guillotine | lol |
| 03:34.53 | Guillotine | new sig |
| 03:35.08 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (n=starfox@85-124-129-254.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 03:35.52 | PHL-Chuck | there a unit frame that slows party targets? forgot all about that I had it in an addon awhile back |
| 03:36.02 | PHL-Chuck | shows party targets rather |
| 03:36.07 | ckknight | PitBull |
| 03:36.11 | PHL-Chuck | how? |
| 03:36.14 | PHL-Chuck | I looked |
| 03:36.17 | NightHawkTheSane | enable it in the menu? |
| 03:36.20 | ckknight | "Disabled units" |
| 03:36.48 | PHL-Chuck | kk cant wait for my crappy server to go back up to see |
| 03:37.11 | ckknight | frankly, I think the Disabled units thing was a bad idea. |
| 03:37.15 | ckknight | or at least misplaced. |
| 03:37.40 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i like it |
| 03:37.52 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I think it should be moved. |
| 03:38.06 | vhaarr | I did that to decrease the clutter in the main menu. |
| 03:38.12 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe, put it under globalsettings? |
| 03:38.59 | hyperChipmunk | sooooooooooooo |
| 03:39.17 | ckknight | no, NightHawkTheSane |
| 03:39.19 | hyperChipmunk | anyone brave enough to try the bulkmail in branches? |
| 03:39.24 | ckknight | vhaarr: it's misplaced. Nobody notices it |
| 03:39.29 | vhaarr | ckknight: ah |
| 03:39.48 | vhaarr | I think the placement is logical |
| 03:39.50 | nymbia | i like it |
| 03:39.56 | vhaarr | and users should just read the damn menu |
| 03:40.03 | vhaarr | not like it takes more than 20 seconds |
| 03:40.03 | ckknight | but they don't |
| 03:40.09 | vhaarr | I know |
| 03:40.11 | nymbia | put 'read the whole menu' on the top of the menu |
| 03:40.15 | vhaarr | but they *should* |
| 03:40.50 | Neebler | RICKROLLED |
| 03:41.00 | vhaarr | dammit, where is it |
| 03:42.33 | Neebler | rick astleys music is stuck in my head, I cannot stop randomly singing "never gonna give you up" in a deep back of the throat baratone |
| 03:43.03 | Neebler | late 1980's mind control methods reborn! |
| 03:44.21 | art3mis | the bruce campbell old spice commercials rule |
| 03:44.33 | ckknight | sbu: well, I got an efficient aura system set up. Can't test, though |
| 03:44.47 | art3mis | the latest is a lounge version of hungry like a wolf ;P |
| 03:45.20 | Cryect | sure you can test get on PTR |
| 03:45.40 | PHL-Chuck | latest WAU pitbull has error, there a new one on svn? |
| 03:45.41 | Cryect | PTR doesn't know if you've paid or not |
| 03:45.44 | ckknight | Cryect: no, PitBull is broken on PTR |
| 03:45.48 | Cryect | oh :( |
| 03:46.01 | ckknight | PHL-Chuck: what error? |
| 03:46.31 | ag` | vhaarr: you watching 24 over bittorrent too? :D |
| 03:46.37 | ag` | new episode out yet? |
| 03:46.51 | vhaarr | ag`: not yet >< |
| 03:46.54 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=kenlyric@adsl-76-214-134-98.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:46.56 | vhaarr | it's supposed to be out by now! |
| 03:46.58 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35467 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - typo |
| 03:47.00 | Neebler | L2Scene |
| 03:47.02 | ag` | ckknight: they changed the name of the secure raid/party header update |
| 03:47.09 | vhaarr | Neebler: what, you got it? |
| 03:47.45 | ckknight | ag`: I know. I knew quite a while ago |
| 03:47.45 | vhaarr | I'm not paying for usenet access when I get it for free 2 minutes later |
| 03:47.45 | ckknight | ag`: I made a diff and distributed it |
| 03:47.45 | vhaarr | ag`: I pinged you about it at the same time I did ckk and saroz |
| 03:47.46 | ag` | Okay. But it didn't seem to be in effect until this test server update |
| 03:47.51 | Neebler | viva la seekret FTPs |
| 03:47.51 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 03:48.04 | vhaarr | Neebler: gif |
| 03:48.07 | Neebler | neg |
| 03:48.17 | ckknight | ag`: btw, what's your opinion on DogTag-1.0 in agUF? |
| 03:48.18 | ag` | but is it out Neebler |
| 03:48.24 | Neebler | no :P |
| 03:48.28 | vhaarr | lol |
| 03:48.41 | vhaarr | Neebler: let me know when it is |
| 03:48.46 | ag` | ckknight: It gives much better function than what I currently have, so I am considering it |
| 03:48.49 | vhaarr | we'll see how much my torrent lags behind |
| 03:49.03 | ckknight | ag`: alright |
| 03:49.09 | ag` | but vhaarr says it got some cpu usage issues |
| 03:49.12 | ckknight | ag`: I fixed most of the previous performance issues. |
| 03:49.13 | ag` | ask him about it |
| 03:49.18 | vhaarr | it did then, I don't know now |
| 03:49.19 | ag` | you did? |
| 03:49.22 | vhaarr | ckk has fixed quite a bit |
| 03:49.23 | ckknight | the ones vhaarr was talking about before. |
| 03:49.24 | ag` | great |
| 03:49.27 | vhaarr | still |
| 03:49.34 | vhaarr | ag`: It would need a compability layer |
| 03:49.36 | vhaarr | or conversion thing |
| 03:49.38 | vhaarr | for old tags |
| 03:49.39 | ckknight | vhaarr: 1.5 ms/s |
| 03:49.42 | ag` | yes |
| 03:49.47 | ckknight | with wacky units |
| 03:49.49 | vhaarr | and it would have to work perfectly |
| 03:50.03 | vhaarr | but anyway |
| 03:50.11 | vhaarr | ag`: fix the header stuff, that's more pressing |
| 03:50.18 | vhaarr | people are raiding the PTR tonight as well |
| 03:50.28 | Guillotine | ckknight: error with 'handler' in the newest version of Pitbull |
| 03:50.28 | vhaarr | and they get cranky without their agUF fix |
| 03:50.39 | ckknight | handler? |
| 03:51.11 | ag` | vhaarr: I'm in a world of shit then cause I just turned my workstation off |
| 03:51.21 | vhaarr | ag`: but you're still here! |
| 03:51.25 | vhaarr | magic, I tells ye |
| 03:51.39 | vhaarr | and no, I am, not you |
| 03:52.07 | ag` | vhaarr: wait, I have SVN on this bucket |
| 03:52.23 | vhaarr | actually, I think the next 24 will be released in about 10 minutes |
| 03:52.27 | ag` | I will drycode and you will give thumbs up if it works |
| 03:52.33 | vhaarr | sure |
| 03:52.37 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 03:53.50 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35468 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - bugfix for PTR |
| 03:55.00 | ulic | the 3D portraits seem to like to pop to full models sometime, instead of just the heads. |
| 03:56.12 | Thorgard | ulic, I found it did that when switching between styles a bit. |
| 03:57.02 | ulic | even without changing anything, like just now we died, and my party member, I can see his whole body |
| 03:57.52 | ag` | what is the name of the new header |
| 03:57.58 | ag` | update function |
| 03:58.10 | vhaarr | SecureGroupHeader_Update |
| 03:58.16 | ag` | I'm not able to extract the stuff atm |
| 03:58.22 | ag` | thanks |
| 04:01.45 | nymbia | ag`: wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 04:02.28 | Kaydeethree | it's a few builds out of date. I posted a .diff of the changes from last build to this on ace's pastey |
| 04:02.51 | nymbia | Kaydeethree: neat |
| 04:03.26 | Kaydeethree | http://ace.pastey.net/30316 |
| 04:05.57 | CIA-23 | 03ag * r35469 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: ghetto dryfix for PTR raid header function |
| 04:06.11 | ag` | vhaarr: tell me if it works |
| 04:06.20 | vhaarr | why doesn't message(...) work? |
| 04:06.21 | vhaarr | ag`: okay |
| 04:07.03 | vhaarr | nymbia: you did some testing wrt message(..), right? It doesn't work here, and issecurevariable returns "1", so it's not tainted |
| 04:07.19 | ag` | vhaarr: where is ep22 |
| 04:07.27 | ag` | is it now? |
| 04:07.34 | vhaarr | not out yet >< |
| 04:07.41 | vhaarr | says it should be released on the 14. |
| 04:07.42 | Neebler | just watch Heroes and be happy |
| 04:07.45 | Neebler | this seasons 24 sucks |
| 04:07.52 | nymbia | vhaarr: the problem before was that AceComm was setting _G.message, i havent checked since then |
| 04:07.54 | Neebler | altho the last Episode was good |
| 04:07.54 | ag` | ah fuck that shit, it's 6 AM |
| 04:08.04 | ag` | I should go to bed |
| 04:08.36 | ag` | I will now ask a newbie question |
| 04:08.46 | Kaydeethree | you will now get a newbie answer |
| 04:08.48 | vhaarr | ag`: for some reason the grouping distance on the second group was set to 50 |
| 04:08.55 | ag` | o.O |
| 04:08.57 | vhaarr | nymbia: right, but then it's tainted, right? |
| 04:09.02 | nymbia | vhaarr: yeah |
| 04:09.05 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r35470 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: |
| 04:09.05 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: 0.9 beta |
| 04:09.05 | CIA-23 | - re-localed some vars and tables that I had global for debugging |
| 04:09.05 | CIA-23 | - fixed tonumbered the itemID when checking individual excluded items so that they match the include table entries and nil them out properly |
| 04:09.13 | Neebler | ag`: care to comment on the success of PitBull? Also: do you feel threatened by it |
| 04:09.13 | vhaarr | ag`: 50 is the middle between 0 and 100, which are the min and max of the group distance option |
| 04:09.20 | vhaarr | ag`: so aceconsole sets it to 50 |
| 04:09.24 | nymbia | vhaarr: i'm grabbing the latest ptr patch at the moment, i'll check it out after it finishes |
| 04:09.29 | vhaarr | ag`: so obviously it has no default value |
| 04:09.34 | vhaarr | nymbia: alright |
| 04:09.34 | Neebler | ITT all statements begin with ag`: |
| 04:09.39 | ag` | vhaarr: which must be a bug |
| 04:09.43 | vhaarr | ag`: right |
| 04:09.49 | vhaarr | I'm just explaining why it's 50 |
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| 04:10.07 | ag` | yeah, I wouldn't know why it should be 50 :) |
| 04:10.16 | ag` | why is it good to do put underscores in front of some values or functions? |
| 04:10.17 | vhaarr | now you do |
| 04:10.19 | Nife | Anyone else have problems with the latest pitbull ? |
| 04:10.20 | ag` | thanks |
| 04:10.36 | vhaarr | ag`: it's just a coding style used by some people |
| 04:10.49 | vhaarr | ag`: for example, where I worked before, we always prefixed class variables with _ |
| 04:10.51 | Xuerian | ag`: Isn't necessarily good, but often indicates internal, backup, or override functions |
| 04:10.51 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r35471 10Decursive/ (23 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 04:10.51 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 04:10.52 | CIA-23 | - Major code optimization: reduced CPU usage from ~0.040 seconds per seconds to |
| 04:10.52 | CIA-23 | ~0.001 seconds per second (results obtained with up to date external ACE2 |
| 04:11.04 | CIA-23 | libraries, if Decursive's embeded shared libraries are the most up to date, |
| 04:11.04 | CIA-23 | Decursive CPU usage will also count the usage of the shared libraries by other |
| 04:11.04 | CIA-23 | add-ons). |
| 04:11.05 | Xuerian | */variables |
| 04:11.06 | ag` | ok |
| 04:11.31 | Nife | Line 939 is giving me a null error on loading |
| 04:12.15 | nymbia | vhaarr: message('a') works for me |
| 04:12.19 | vhaarr | nymbia: weird |
| 04:12.24 | vhaarr | does not here |
| 04:12.26 | ag` | Neebler: No... I code for my own sake, if people use what I do then it's nice too... Both my code and Pitbull is Dogtag is GPL so we're all one big happy family, and both addons might end up catering to two differnt types of users, who knows |
| 04:12.31 | nymbia | hrm |
| 04:12.37 | vhaarr | how can it not work when it's not tainted |
| 04:12.39 | vhaarr | >< |
| 04:13.32 | nymbia | vhaarr: /dump ScriptErrors:IsShown() |
| 04:13.47 | vhaarr | nil |
| 04:14.03 | nymbia | somethin must be hiding it |
| 04:14.07 | ckknight | ag`: DogTag-1.0 is LGPL |
| 04:14.11 | Roartindon | There's an interface option now |
| 04:14.14 | Roartindon | In PTR 2.1 |
| 04:14.17 | Roartindon | that hides script errors |
| 04:14.26 | Roartindon | Middle section on first page, m iddle column, bottom option |
| 04:14.28 | vhaarr | Roartindon: I have bugsack running. |
| 04:14.31 | nymbia | Roartindon: but does it disable the frame? |
| 04:14.44 | ag` | ckknight: ah, ok. Doesn't give me any problems though =) |
| 04:14.44 | hyperChipmunk | nobody got any feedback on the new bulkmail? |
| 04:14.45 | Roartindon | BugSack should catch stuff still.... |
| 04:14.51 | hyperChipmunk | don't make me put it in trunk... |
| 04:14.52 | ckknight | ag`: right. |
| 04:14.53 | vhaarr | okay |
| 04:14.57 | vhaarr | Roartindon was right. |
| 04:14.59 | vhaarr | this sucks. |
| 04:15.03 | ckknight | Neebler: I'm also trying to convince ag` to ship DogTag-1.0, that way everyone will be on the same page |
| 04:15.22 | vhaarr | okay, so we can't use message for *anything*, then. |
| 04:15.24 | vhaarr | that's just great. |
| 04:15.26 | vhaarr | thanks blizz |
| 04:15.39 | nymbia | oh, yup, that's it |
| 04:15.58 | vhaarr | perhaps AceLibrary should just enable that cvar |
| 04:16.02 | vhaarr | no no |
| 04:16.14 | nymbia | why would they kill that frame, if they arent even routing errors to it? |
| 04:16.47 | ag` | 24 episode 22 will never come out |
| 04:16.56 | vhaarr | I think you're right |
| 04:16.57 | CIA-23 | 03next96 * r35472 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 04:16.57 | CIA-23 | Violation |
| 04:16.57 | CIA-23 | - Update locale koKR |
| 04:17.02 | ag` | I will cry myself to sleep now |
| 04:17.08 | vid` | it sucked! |
| 04:17.08 | vid` | :( |
| 04:17.14 | vid` | next week is 2 hr finale tho |
| 04:17.21 | ag` | oh snap |
| 04:17.23 | vid` | watching heroes atm |
| 04:17.32 | vid` | and yea havent seen 24 out yet online |
| 04:17.35 | vid` | at least not on usenet |
| 04:17.48 | hyperChipmunk | Gngsk: gimme feedback, yo |
| 04:17.48 | vhaarr | if it's not on usenet, it's not on torrent sites |
| 04:18.18 | Xuerian | hyperChipmunk: pay my sub, yo |
| 04:18.30 | ckknight | Heroes on bt yet? |
| 04:18.41 | Roartindon | ckknight: yeah |
| 04:18.46 | ag` | bai |
| 04:18.51 | Roartindon | ckknight: eztvefnet.org, grab the torrent file there |
| 04:19.06 | Nife | Usnet is the sub-burbs of downloading. |
| 04:19.08 | sylvanaar | you know its kind of a non-issue now, but i was going to ask about buggrabber, and having it keep error data instead of bugsack |
| 04:19.09 | ckknight | pimp. |
| 04:19.15 | ckknight | <3 eztv |
| 04:19.17 | vid` | i love usenet :P |
| 04:19.32 | vid` | i get 1.5 megaBYTES/sec from my provider :P |
| 04:19.34 | Kaydeethree | I miss having an ISP where we had a feed to usenet... |
| 04:19.40 | sylvanaar | me too |
| 04:19.45 | sylvanaar | i pay |
| 04:19.46 | vid` | suck down an ep of heroes in like 3-4 mins |
| 04:19.48 | Roartindon | hmm.. should BugGrabber set scriptErrors cvar on load? |
| 04:19.52 | Nife | I just miss being closer to release |
| 04:19.53 | Roartindon | in 2.1? |
| 04:19.57 | hyperChipmunk | don't all ISPs have usenets feeds? |
| 04:19.58 | vhaarr | Roartindon: no |
| 04:20.08 | vid` | not binary feeds usually |
| 04:20.09 | Nife | hyperChipmunk nope |
| 04:20.12 | vid` | and retention sucks |
| 04:20.14 | *** join/#wowace Killmore (i=task@modemcable031.191-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 04:20.15 | hyperChipmunk | weak |
| 04:20.16 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 04:20.17 | vid` | and huge incomplete ratio |
| 04:20.18 | ckknight | Roartindon: no, doesn't need to |
| 04:20.22 | vid` | usenetserver.com |
| 04:20.24 | vid` | $15/m unlimited |
| 04:20.32 | vid` | and get a good newsclient like newsleecher |
| 04:20.35 | Nife | Buying those feeds for an isp is expensive |
| 04:20.46 | vid` | and an indexing site like newzbin.com :P |
| 04:20.46 | ckknight | everyone, I have a proposal: Why doesn't Ace2 just set scriptErrors to 1? |
| 04:20.47 | vid` | and you are set |
| 04:20.54 | ckknight | I mean, srsly now |
| 04:20.56 | sylvanaar | i use usenet explorer |
| 04:20.56 | vhaarr | ckknight: I just said that 4 minutes ago |
| 04:21.02 | vhaarr | ckknight: but I don't think it should |
| 04:21.04 | hyperChipmunk | what's scriptErrors? |
| 04:21.12 | vid` | make sure you get a news client that has NZB support |
| 04:21.12 | ckknight | I don't want users complaining and saying that they have no errors |
| 04:21.14 | kergoth | vid`: what's their retention like? |
| 04:21.18 | kergoth | vid`: i have giganews currently |
| 04:21.19 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: scriptErrors = 0 hides all errors. |
| 04:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | that the new "turn off the errors" nightmare in 2.1? |
| 04:21.21 | vid` | 100 days now |
| 04:21.24 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: 0 by default. |
| 04:21.24 | Kaydeethree | lua errors aren't shown by default in 2.1, scripterrors is the cvar to show/hide it |
| 04:21.30 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 04:21.37 | vid` | giganews is good too but its a litte more money |
| 04:21.41 | vid` | im cheap so i use UNS :P |
| 04:21.45 | sylvanaar | but buggrabber will still get them |
| 04:21.46 | hyperChipmunk | i want to find the person responsible and beat them |
| 04:21.50 | kergoth | using newsbin pro atm, though i prefer the one that used to be called newspro |
| 04:21.54 | nymbia | ckknight: we want people using bugsack over the default, anyway -- but when there's no error when someone gives a bug report, pain in the ass |
| 04:21.56 | kergoth | more powerful, though less user friendly |
| 04:22.04 | sylvanaar | yea, thats usenet exploere |
| 04:22.04 | hyperChipmunk | my ISP's feed is giganews |
| 04:22.07 | sylvanaar | UE |
| 04:22.07 | ckknight | nymbia: but we want people to realize that there _is_ an error. |
| 04:22.10 | kergoth | thats it, ue |
| 04:22.13 | kergoth | couldnt remember |
| 04:22.21 | sylvanaar | i love it |
| 04:22.22 | kergoth | i should just buy UE |
| 04:22.24 | nymbia | ckknight: yeah |
| 04:22.30 | Kaydeethree | so hook in to _error() and show a simple one-liner in default_chat_frame? |
| 04:22.33 | sylvanaar | yeah, i did |
| 04:22.35 | vid` | try newsleecher out |
| 04:22.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Argh. |
| 04:22.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Fucking idiotic default shit. |
| 04:22.41 | hyperChipmunk | honestly, no good can come from not showing errors |
| 04:22.41 | vid` | before you buy anything |
| 04:22.44 | Killmore | patch tommorow or next week ?! |
| 04:22.49 | ckknight | nymbia: I'm thinking I'll put up a vote on the forums |
| 04:22.56 | ckknight | Killmore: not tomorrow, next week or later |
| 04:22.58 | hyperChipmunk | i figured that'd never make it to live |
| 04:22.59 | kergoth | i tried newsleecher a long time ago, liked some things about it, definately more friendly than UE is |
| 04:23.02 | Kaydeethree | next week most likely, realms aren't down for extendend maint tomorrow |
| 04:23.04 | vid` | newsleecher is like $25 or $30 well worth it imo if you pay for usenet. it has supersearch too if you want to pay for it |
| 04:23.27 | sylvanaar | i used that too |
| 04:23.29 | ZealotOnAStick | So, I had HOURS of frustration and effort trying to get a stupid thing on a web migration working right. |
| 04:23.30 | kergoth | like 10 years ago now |
| 04:23.36 | sylvanaar | and before that, i cant recall |
| 04:23.41 | sylvanaar | there were many others |
| 04:23.51 | ZealotOnAStick | When it turns out that all my problems were because it set up JailShell by default. Got that removed and set up bash, everything nice and worky now. |
| 04:23.52 | Nife | pitbull has a null error on line 939 in r35465. Is there a place to get the revision right before that ? |
| 04:24.00 | hyperChipmunk | someone gimme feedback on BulkMail in branches or i'ma start random bans! |
| 04:24.15 | ckknight | Nife: update |
| 04:24.17 | kergoth | tin ftw |
| 04:24.25 | NightHawkTheSane | normally i would say "ooh ooh random bans" but i know taht'd just end up with me being the first one. |
| 04:24.30 | ckknight | Nife: you want r35468 |
| 04:24.43 | Nife | haha wow fast update thanks |
| 04:25.06 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/BulkMail/0.9/ |
| 04:25.17 | hyperChipmunk | get on it if you value your presence in the channel! |
| 04:25.20 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 04:25.25 | NightHawkTheSane | now, taht's anything but random :P |
| 04:25.28 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.52 | hyperChipmunk | i randomly picked you |
| 04:25.55 | hyperChipmunk | trust me it was random |
| 04:26.00 | kergoth | i like being on the ubernet and ubermovie file sharing networks, along with usenet. for music and movies, the latter tends to have new and prerelease stuff faster, but the former has more old stuff and higher quality rips.. and naturally usenet has other stuff, warez and ebooks and all |
| 04:26.46 | hyperChipmunk | <3 BBC |
| 04:27.03 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: is there a good complimentary addon to receive mail? otherwise honestly i'm just going to stick with postal |
| 04:27.49 | hyperChipmunk | what do you need that ExpressMail doesn't offer? |
| 04:27.51 | *** join/#wowace Vorda (n=Vorda@kotnet-148.kulnet.kuleuven.be) |
| 04:28.03 | NightHawkTheSane | I have no idea what expressmail does. |
| 04:28.14 | hyperChipmunk | receives mail |
| 04:28.29 | NightHawkTheSane | but more or less i just want open-all and shift-click to loot |
| 04:28.43 | hyperChipmunk | it has shift-click to loot and ctrl-click to return |
| 04:28.54 | Vorda | Hey. I've been having a problem with 'CoolDown' lately. Every time I rezone, it copies/doubles my cooldown frames.. Anyone happen to know how to fix it? (or can advise an alternative addon?) |
| 04:29.05 | hyperChipmunk | i dunno about open all |
| 04:29.14 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: also, it doesnt appear to be in /files |
| 04:29.25 | hyperChipmunk | but BulkMail/ExpressMail are meant to be complementary addons |
| 04:29.30 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's in Tekkub's repo |
| 04:29.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh, k |
| 04:29.35 | kergoth | i've never seen the point of open all. what are the odds you have hte inventory space to loot it all? honestly |
| 04:29.39 | hyperChipmunk | http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ExpressMail |
| 04:29.44 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: very often |
| 04:29.52 | kergoth | my bank has 10 pages of expired auctions |
| 04:29.52 | kergoth | :P |
| 04:29.55 | hyperChipmunk | then you can shift-click 2 or 3 |
| 04:29.58 | Diao | Is it just me or is wowace fileserver lagging |
| 04:30.38 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: my ah/bank alt has plenty of space, and looting 2 pages worth of sold auctions is a pain in the ass, i'd rather just click open all and go get a drink |
| 04:30.50 | kenlyric | I typically can have from 50-75 auctions at any one time. |
| 04:30.57 | kenlyric | some completed, some expired. |
| 04:31.02 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: well, ill give it a shot, uh, sometime tomorrow probably |
| 04:31.10 | kenlyric | not to mention all the stuff I send to my AH alt. |
| 04:31.59 | hyperChipmunk | i just need some betatesting >8( |
| 04:32.09 | undu | I don't find bulkmail very handy at all lately, not since I started using postal's alt-click to send item. >< |
| 04:32.18 | NightHawkTheSane | well right now i'm suffering through spiderman3, so i'm not even playing |
| 04:32.24 | Diao | @_@ |
| 04:32.28 | kergoth | what i miss about bulkmail is the automatic rules based on pt3 set and such |
| 04:32.31 | hyperChipmunk | that was ripped off of BulkMail!!! |
| 04:32.32 | Diao | Everything at wowace.com is lagging badly for me :( |
| 04:32.38 | kergoth | automatically sending leather from my farmer to my lw ftw |
| 04:32.47 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: the new one does that soooooo nicely |
| 04:32.52 | kergoth | nice |
| 04:32.55 | kergoth | might switch back then :) |
| 04:33.09 | hyperChipmunk | nice interface and everything |
| 04:34.54 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r35473 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua WhatsNew.txt): |
| 04:34.54 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 04:34.54 | CIA-23 | - Removed forgotten test code |
| 04:35.02 | hyperChipmunk | i had to stop for a week to hack the table-feed into dewdrop so i could get it the way i wanted |
| 04:35.30 | xlvii | kenlyric: when you find stuff that doesn't sell, do you just vendor it? or just keep it hoping it will sell one day? |
| 04:35.38 | hyperChipmunk | undu: and the alt-click autosend in postal is ctrl-shift-click in BulkMail |
| 04:35.50 | kenlyric | xlvii: depends on the item. |
| 04:36.15 | kenlyric | common stuff, like cloth, ores, etc, I'll try to post at verying times to get better results. |
| 04:36.27 | Vorda | Is there some Raidtracker equivalent in Ace2? |
| 04:36.27 | xlvii | what about blues and potions and the like? |
| 04:36.32 | hyperChipmunk | alt-click adds it to a queue to be sent all at once, ctrl-shift-click sends automatically |
| 04:36.39 | kenlyric | if the market dumps on something, I'll bank it for a week or two. |
| 04:36.59 | kenlyric | potions I don't ever sell, blues I just keep playing with the prices on those until they sell. |
| 04:37.01 | undu | I'm too lazy for that. I just keep undercutting. |
| 04:37.07 | kenlyric | undu: that too. |
| 04:37.10 | undu | ^^ |
| 04:37.24 | kenlyric | the only exception right now is green gems. |
| 04:37.34 | kenlyric | Those get vendored without question. |
| 04:37.48 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, i might start doing that |
| 04:37.50 | kenlyric | well, now I"m keeping them, and sending them off to a jewelcrafter friend to cut when I get a full stack. |
| 04:37.52 | Gngsk | why vendor? |
| 04:37.56 | Gngsk | save them up, have the xmuted |
| 04:38.26 | Tekkub | uh, gems DE? |
| 04:38.27 | Xuerian | Vorda: Not detailed, but XLoot Monitor has a history that can dump to psv |
| 04:38.39 | kenlyric | but they definitely aren't worth putting on the AH. |
| 04:38.48 | undu | They're nerfing the vendor prices for green gems in 2.1.0 afaik, so better sell them off while you have time. ;) |
| 04:39.07 | kenlyric | generally, if an Item won't return at least 100% over vendor price, I don't even bother with the AH. |
| 04:39.26 | xlvii | i need to make a new bank.. |
| 04:39.29 | kenlyric | undu: well, that's why I'm having them cut... they go for a good 3-4g when cut. |
| 04:39.32 | xlvii | my current one is cluttered full of junk |
| 04:39.40 | undu | oh |
| 04:39.47 | kenlyric | xlvii: it's good to have a clearance sale once in a while :) |
| 04:39.49 | undu | I didn't know that. :) |
| 04:40.08 | kenlyric | I did recently to get 300g for my final aldor rep, ended up getting 700g and not even selling half of it. |
| 04:40.47 | Kemayo | phyber: XPBarNone, completed a quest in Desolace, gained Cenarion Circle rep, got this error: XPBarNone-2.0\Core.lua:638: attempt to call global 'SetWatchedFactionName' (a nil value) |
| 04:41.12 | hyperChipmunk | it's in the readme! |
| 04:41.22 | hyperChipmunk | ooh, i need to pudate that |
| 04:41.50 | Arrowmaster | vid`: where did you find heros at? i keep finding ep 20 on usenet |
| 04:42.04 | hyperChipmunk | the further adventures of Umpahpahpowcow, the Tauren Goblin Engineer =D |
| 04:42.14 | hyperChipmunk | now he has menus! |
| 04:42.30 | kenlyric | one hint about bank alts, level them. Should something happen and you wish to recover something, blizzard starts caring much more when they get past level 10. |
| 04:42.37 | hyperChipmunk | and he needs to be level 70 now |
| 04:42.41 | vid` | http://v3.newzbin.com/browse/post/2469859/ |
| 04:43.28 | Arrowmaster | ok a.b.tv |
| 04:43.35 | Arrowmaster | im still downloading the headers for that one |
| 04:43.42 | Vorda | Thank Xuerian, but I was also looking of something that tracks attendance at boss kills and such. Guess I'm stuck to CT for that one. |
| 04:43.43 | vid` | http://www.newsfix.net/modules.php?name=nzb&file=details&id=NTg1NXwxMTc5MjA0MTg2 |
| 04:43.47 | vid` | you can get it from there also |
| 04:43.52 | Xuerian | Vorda: Yeah, pretty much |
| 04:43.58 | vid` | ew |
| 04:44.07 | vid` | i havent downloaded headers in like 3 years :P |
| 04:44.09 | vid` | nzbs |
| 04:44.09 | vid` | ! |
| 04:44.23 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue what an nzb is |
| 04:44.27 | vid` | open the nzb and it grabs all the posts without the headers |
| 04:44.29 | vid` | :) |
| 04:44.37 | vid` | just the ones you need |
| 04:44.49 | vid` | you need a news client with NZB support tho like newsleecher |
| 04:44.50 | Arrowmaster | i just started using usenet again since i want my tv shows and bittorrent is slower than my isps usenet server |
| 04:45.07 | Arrowmaster | ah that could be a problem im using an old ass version of newsbin pro |
| 04:47.40 | kenlyric | never understood how those websites are useful/interact with news readers. |
| 04:48.02 | sedatedChipmunk | goobernight; try the BulkMail 0.9 branch and leave me feedback and i'll give you a cookie in the morning |
| 04:49.14 | Arrowmaster | vid, how do i close this nag window |
| 04:49.26 | Arrowmaster | nvm |
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| 04:55.37 | Kemayo | Is there an alternative to MrPlow that has a working bank-stack mode? |
| 04:55.56 | Cryect | Did someone kill the SVN again |
| 04:57.29 | Kemayo | It just hasn't worked for a while. |
| 04:57.39 | CIA-23 | 03kemayo * r35474 10SharedMedia/SharedMedia.toc: |
| 04:57.39 | CIA-23 | SharedMedia |
| 04:57.39 | CIA-23 | - Changed TOC X-Embeds from SharedMedia-1.0 to SharedMediaLib, per metadata spec. |
| 04:57.55 | Kemayo | Finally! I've had that sitting there committing for the last 20 minutes... |
| 04:58.18 | Cryect | haha so I might get a commit in 20 minutes alright |
| 05:03.19 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r35475 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: |
| 05:03.19 | CIA-23 | GraphLib - If no color is passed to :AddPie or :CompletePie it selects an unused |
| 05:03.19 | CIA-23 | color from its color table (26 colors at the moment if more than 26 pieces it |
| 05:03.19 | CIA-23 | will randomly generate a color for 27 and up). Both functions now return the |
| 05:03.19 | CIA-23 | used color. |
| 05:04.46 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35476 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add an aura tracking system. Switch the feign death/soulstone to said system. |
| 05:09.02 | xlvii | rogues that use the felsteel longblade in their mainhand confuse me. |
| 05:09.26 | CIA-23 | 03next96 * r35477 10SimpleCombatLog/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 05:09.26 | CIA-23 | SimpleCombatLog : |
| 05:09.26 | CIA-23 | - Update locale koKR (by leomajor) |
| 05:10.30 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r35478 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: |
| 05:10.30 | CIA-23 | .AceEvent-2.0: |
| 05:10.30 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.30 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:14.50 | nymbia | ckknight: did i fail at convincing you to switch aceevent back? :( |
| 05:15.10 | ckknight | no, you didn't |
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| 05:16.53 | kergoth | xlvii: heh, thats a pretty mediocre sword for a rogue, in either hand |
| 05:17.17 | nymbia | ckknight: didn't fail, or didn't convince? |
| 05:17.27 | ckknight | didn't fail |
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| 05:19.56 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r35479 10GraphLib/ (Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua GraphTextures/Pie/1-1.tga): GraphLib - Special case added to :CompletePie if the piece should be 100% it now uses a single complete circle image (instead of a circle with a sliver left out) |
| 05:19.57 | Diao | hmm |
| 05:20.06 | Diao | is there any way to unattach the mirror bars from the castbar in quartz? |
| 05:20.16 | Diao | so i can set it up the way blizz has it with the mirror bar at the top and castbar at the bottom :x |
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| 05:26.08 | Fisker- | nymbia ! |
| 05:26.13 | nymbia | Fisker-: ! |
| 05:26.21 | joh | Hello, what's a good CT_MailMod replacement? |
| 05:26.31 | joh | Postal/Postman? |
| 05:26.33 | Fisker- | I do not understand |
| 05:26.34 | Fisker- | :( |
| 05:28.24 | nymbia | Fisker-: your mother |
| 05:28.36 | Fisker- | :(! |
| 05:28.49 | Fisker- | how will i get accurate timers now? |
| 05:28.57 | nymbia | huh? |
| 05:29.22 | Fisker- | instead of standard (2m) and all that blizzard crap (1:xx) would be awesome |
| 05:29.30 | nymbia | Fisker-: ok |
| 05:29.53 | nymbia | Fisker-: i've got a lot of changes inc to buffs, so gimme a few to make sure those work ;) |
| 05:30.07 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 05:30.23 | Fisker- | (that's alright) |
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| 05:34.28 | Gokie | Hey nymbia, any possible plans for a pet castbar in quartz? I liked that aspect of PitBull (also set it to show party member castbars), and since I switched to quartz for my own, the pitbull ones look kinda out of place |
| 05:34.49 | nymbia | hrm |
| 05:35.00 | Gokie | I can live w/o party castbars, but the pet one is something I never realized how useful it is |
| 05:35.20 | kergoth | i dont see what makes the pitbull ones out of place.. they're with the unit they correspond to, as they should be |
| 05:35.22 | Gokie | (seduce being the completely horrible CC in PvE that it is) |
| 05:35.47 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r35480 10SimpleCombatLog/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 05:35.47 | CIA-23 | SimpleCombatLog : |
| 05:35.47 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.06 | Gokie | well it's not too bad when you just set them to same texture, but it's a bit limited in where they appear |
| 05:36.34 | kergoth | what do you mean? |
| 05:36.36 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r35481 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: 2.1 fix. |
| 05:37.00 | kergoth | and the !SurfaceControl addon is your friend, it lets you set a statusbar texture globally, every addon using surface or sharedmedialib will use that texture |
| 05:37.18 | Gokie | oh, the texture isn't the issue |
| 05:37.42 | Gokie | I mean with PitBull, there's no real easy way to control where the castbar appears, right? It just has to be in the unitframe |
| 05:38.04 | kergoth | for party castbars, do you really want to move each one independently to next to each party member's unitframe? |
| 05:38.06 | kergoth | honestly |
| 05:38.08 | Funkeh` | you mean like above/below it etc |
| 05:38.11 | kergoth | makes no sense |
| 05:38.18 | Gokie | unless I'm missing something in PitBull config (not altogether unlikely, given how often it's updated) |
| 05:38.36 | Gokie | well, that's why I said the party I can do without... pet castbar I would like to move though |
| 05:39.31 | Funkeh` | later all |
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| 05:54.53 | Laric | did kaelten find someone to help develop WAU? |
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| 06:02.57 | joh | How would you make a macro that only casts a spell and says something only if the target is dead and friendly? |
| 06:03.01 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35482 10Quartz/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:03.02 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 06:03.02 | CIA-23 | - Full positioning options for Buffs and Mirror modules. |
| 06:03.02 | CIA-23 | - Tweak order of options menu. |
| 06:03.02 | CIA-23 | - Show seconds for mirror timers > 1 minute |
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| 06:10.49 | Fisker- | nymbia is my best friend ever |
| 06:11.05 | CIA-23 | 03athou * r35483 10Taggle/Taggle.lua: |
| 06:11.05 | CIA-23 | Taggle: |
| 06:11.05 | CIA-23 | - never ignore GM's |
| 06:11.29 | Fisker- | HOHO |
| 06:13.50 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35484 10Quartz/Buffs.lua: |
| 06:13.50 | CIA-23 | Quartz: Buffs: |
| 06:13.50 | CIA-23 | - Fix a terrible copy-pasted default. |
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| 06:25.08 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35485 10Quartz/ (22 files in 8 dirs): |
| 06:25.08 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 06:25.08 | CIA-23 | - Move modules to their own directories in prep for making 'em LoD'able. |
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| 06:31.57 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35486 10Quartz/ (Quartz.toc locale/Quartz-deDE.lua): |
| 06:31.57 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 06:31.57 | CIA-23 | - Add deDE translation (just the required stuff at the moment), thanks EnSabahNur! |
| 06:32.00 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r35487 10XRS/XRS.toc: XRS: Removed X-Embeds for SurfaceLib, because it doesn't anymore.. and added SharedMediaLib instead |
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| 06:38.33 | Tekkub | http://userpic.livejournal.com/60290713/8089253 |
| 06:40.34 | NightHawkTheSane | you know what sounds good? lime nachos with mango salsa |
| 06:43.28 | nymbia | are we getting 2.1 tonight? |
| 06:43.52 | Elkano | ~8ball <nymbia> are we getting 2.1 tonight? |
| 06:44.08 | purl | Yes. |
| 06:44.08 | nymbia | rofl |
| 06:44.08 | NightHawkTheSane | "Outlook not so good." |
| 06:44.14 | nymbia | sweet |
| 06:44.16 | NightHawkTheSane | man, fuck you purl |
| 06:44.19 | nymbia | changing all my tocs to 20100 |
| 06:44.38 | nymbia | (seriously) |
| 06:44.49 | NightHawkTheSane | we probably won't, honsetly |
| 06:45.39 | Silviu- | I think we don`t get it, ptr is getting patched today no ? |
| 06:47.31 | Gokie | PTR got patched on Monday, and the log-in screen speaks of "normal maintenence" on Tuesday, so I really doubt 2.1 is hitting |
| 06:56.20 | Elkano | nymbia, funny to see that you finaly posted something I noticed shortly after PTR went live ^^ the difference in buff time |
| 06:57.08 | nymbia | Elkano: haha, yeah |
| 06:57.18 | nymbia | fix won't make it in to 2.1 though :( |
| 06:57.55 | Elkano | and I still wonder why I sometimes get 60min returned for "Mark of the Wild" if cast after "Gift of the Wild" :/ |
| 06:58.16 | nymbia | yeah.. it's a little.. flaky |
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| 07:00.21 | TecnoBrat | Anyone here happen to be from BC, Canada, and on Telus? heh |
| 07:02.45 | Loki|muh | yeah patch, I will be ingame tomorrow all the day to make the new quests *g* |
| 07:03.30 | TecnoBrat | PTR patch you mean? |
| 07:04.58 | TecnoBrat | PTR was patched today .. which means 99% chance that there is no live patch tomorrow |
| 07:05.40 | Elkano | Loki|muh: haha |
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| 07:06.00 | NightHawkTheSane | I still need to finish that damn netherwing quest. |
| 07:06.34 | theoddone33 | I couldn't get a group for the last part |
| 07:06.40 | theoddone33 | so sad |
| 07:06.46 | NightHawkTheSane | same |
| 07:06.49 | theoddone33 | my server is totally dead, horde side |
| 07:07.01 | Laric | Elkano I always get 60 min bar on motw. but only 30 min filled |
| 07:07.47 | Elkano | Laric, when did you update for the last time? |
| 07:07.57 | TecnoBrat | Aparantly, my ISP hates wowhead |
| 07:08.16 | Laric | Elkano yesterday |
| 07:08.18 | NightHawkTheSane | no, your isp hates you, and are laughing at your misfortune |
| 07:08.19 | Elkano | hmm... |
| 07:08.48 | Laric | will check again later today to make sure I aint lying to you |
| 07:10.33 | Elkano | well, it used to have the wrong value stored over sessions and since I wasn't able to fix the problem of getting the wrong value sometimes I disabled that part for the time beeing :7 |
| 07:11.17 | Laric | I guess that problem is going away with 2.1 right? |
| 07:11.26 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35488 10Quartz/ (23 files in 10 dirs): |
| 07:11.26 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 07:11.26 | CIA-23 | - Tweak menu structure for LoD stuff, add tocs to modules, add a theoretical LoD loader. |
| 07:11.26 | CIA-23 | - Untested, don't try to run this LoD yet ;) |
| 07:12.56 | Elkano | wow, downloading the patch data at 300+ is fun :) |
| 07:13.10 | kebinusan | http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k117/Nnep82/Motivational-Mooseknuckle.jpg |
| 07:13.15 | kebinusan | so wrong |
| 07:13.26 | Laric | Elkano what kinda line you got? |
| 07:14.33 | Gngsk | kebinusan, oh my god. |
| 07:14.55 | Xuerian | waaaaagh |
| 07:15.03 | Xuerian | point that thing somewhere else, kebinusan |
| 07:15.36 | Elkano | Laric, big one ^^ university |
| 07:15.49 | kebinusan | I laughed so hard at that one |
| 07:16.11 | Gokie | wow that's just... wrong |
| 07:17.18 | Laric | Elkano cheetah |
| 07:17.41 | Laric | :P |
| 07:19.40 | Megalon | kebinusan: ar wtf |
| 07:22.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: need help with something? |
| 07:22.25 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: No, I'm just bored of it |
| 07:22.25 | Xuerian | thanks though :P |
| 07:22.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: ah, fair enough. :) |
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| 07:22.54 | Xuerian | Ironically, what's bugging me right now, is a submit doesn't wanna accept it's class css, and only listens to a selector for it's type |
| 07:24.42 | Xuerian | Oh, haha. Overridden by forms.css later on.. |
| 07:24.58 | NightHawkTheSane | I was going to say.. sure it's not being overridden elsewhere.. ;) |
| 07:25.17 | Xuerian | :P |
| 07:25.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i've made that mistake too, so dont feel bad :P |
| 07:26.22 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35489 10Quartz/ (filelist.wau quartzlod.bat quartzlod.sh): |
| 07:26.22 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 07:26.22 | CIA-23 | - LoD loading seems to work, add shell scripts and filelist.wau |
| 07:26.40 | Xuerian | Feeling like a mad scientist, nymbia? |
| 07:26.51 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Heheh, this is only the third time tonight |
| 07:27.03 | nymbia | Xuerian: rofl |
| 07:27.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: last night, I debugged a php script that was throwing errors for around an hour, only to relize that the problem was i was using the wrong file encoding. So yeah. :D |
| 07:27.43 | NightHawkTheSane | And i really need to get my update script working with disembedding and LoD splitting. |
| 07:28.01 | Xuerian | nyehehe |
| 07:28.26 | Xuerian | Late night coding, ftw |
| 07:28.26 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, ill probably start working on that after this episode of robotech :) |
| 07:28.29 | Elkano | omg.... http://www.trendhure.com/framer.php?id=1481 |
| 07:28.31 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: just run batch files from it ;) |
| 07:28.54 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: lol, well, I need to get it to find/run the shells scripts, not hard, but I just need to do it |
| 07:30.04 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: hrm.. well, some can't follow the naming conventions.. but it'd probably be the only .sh in the directory |
| 07:30.24 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: thats more or less what I'm hoping. wtb standards. >< |
| 07:31.30 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: you could always parse filelist.wau, lol |
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| 07:32.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, also possible. |
| 07:32.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: wow, that movie is.. interesting. |
| 07:33.21 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Haha. Like this: if ($_POST and $_POST['username'] and $_POST['password']) auth_login($username, $password); |
| 07:33.43 | NightHawkTheSane | niiiice. :) |
| 07:33.58 | Megalon | haha :P |
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| 07:38.04 | CIA-23 | 03xuerian * r35490 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Fixed the +1 to total in inv bug. I think. |
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| 07:40.52 | Loki|muh | so no patchday? fine, then I can go on farming mana thistels above shatt :) |
| 07:44.08 | Xuerian | Shatt. Sounds so dirty every time I hear someone say it. |
| 07:45.22 | evl | That's a brilliant band |
| 07:45.22 | evl | Shat |
| 07:45.29 | evl | Their first album Cunt-tree is brilliant |
| 07:45.54 | renchap | nymbia: your locales for Quartz are boring to translate :D |
| 07:46.07 | nymbia | renchap: yeah, sorry bout that ;) |
| 07:46.39 | renchap | i will commit a partial frFR translation |
| 07:46.48 | renchap | i dont see how to translate some things |
| 07:46.49 | nymbia | ok, cool |
| 07:48.16 | NightHawkTheSane | I think people should put crazy-ass sentences hidden in their addons, just so localizers have something interesting to do besides the boring old addon stuff. |
| 07:48.31 | nymbia | haha |
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| 07:49.13 | evl | Is Shield Wall the longest ability cooldown in the game? |
| 07:49.18 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 07:49.28 | evl | 1 hour is the longest? |
| 07:49.35 | NightHawkTheSane | off hand, 1 hour is the longest CD i know of |
| 07:49.37 | Kinkx | Divine Intervension is 1h I think |
| 07:49.45 | NightHawkTheSane | so is LoH untalented |
| 07:51.07 | NightHawkTheSane | and reincarnation, untalented. |
| 07:51.07 | evl | thanks |
| 07:51.10 | Phatrik | NightHawkTheSane , or name all the files the GTA Rockstar Games style |
| 07:51.13 | evl | so 1200 seconds is the longest |
| 07:51.15 | Phatrik | obsceneties |
| 07:51.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Phatrik: that would be awesome. |
| 07:51.49 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: 3600s = 1hr |
| 07:51.58 | Kinkx | Quartz is so awesome, I just started using it.. it's just sooo nice! :D |
| 07:52.41 | evl | What does it do that any other castbar addon doesn't already do= |
| 07:53.06 | NightHawkTheSane | it has a GCD bar thing |
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| 07:53.28 | renchap | what is GCD ? |
| 07:53.32 | NightHawkTheSane | and a lag meter thing. |
| 07:53.32 | evl | global cool down |
| 07:53.32 | omega_ | global cooldown |
| 07:53.39 | manub | hi there, anyone knows if WAU works now correctly with dotted version numbers? |
| 07:53.46 | NightHawkTheSane | and in 2.1 it has buff timer, things. |
| 07:53.49 | NightHawkTheSane | it has lots of.. things |
| 07:54.06 | NightHawkTheSane | And nymbia made it, so you know it doesn't suck.. much. |
| 07:54.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 07:54.42 | Silviu- | :P |
| 07:54.43 | Arrowmaster | WAU is currently bugged with the dotted version numbers, it works fine as long as the last part of the version number doesnt end in 0 i think |
| 07:54.51 | Kinkx | It has Focus and Target casting bars |
| 07:54.57 | manub | ok, so it's better to download mods manually? ;) |
| 07:54.59 | Kinkx | can customize everything how you want it |
| 07:55.14 | Kinkx | has this uber mirrorbar as well with lots of info that you can turn on and off |
| 07:55.36 | Arrowmaster | its better to use WAU with !!!SAL and set to download without externals |
| 07:55.49 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r35491 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-koKR.lua: |
| 07:55.49 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 07:55.49 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 07:55.55 | Arrowmaster | then the last half of the version number doesnt matter |
| 07:56.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: lol. Is this where I laugh about how the change to ".1nnn" was supposed to fix a bug with WAU, and only introduced another one becuase of shoddy programming that the developer(s) are too lazy to fix, even though it's a 30s fix? |
| 07:56.11 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: that's a lie and you know it |
| 07:56.24 | Xuerian | nn. |
| 07:56.28 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: which part? about it being by you, or not sucking? |
| 07:56.34 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: it sucks a ton, naturally. |
| 07:56.41 | nymbia | night Xuerian |
| 07:56.41 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: oh, well, my bad :D |
| 07:56.56 | NightHawkTheSane | night Xuerian, feel free to pester me about CSS stuff whenever, i'm alright at it :) |
| 07:57.08 | Xuerian | funky weird. div:hover worked in ie7 just now, didn't a few days ago... |
| 07:57.25 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, well, who the hell knows what IE will or wont do. |
| 07:57.27 | manub | Arrowmaster, I already set to this |
| 07:57.39 | Arrowmaster | you shouldnt have issues then |
| 07:57.40 | manub | but I remember I had problems using WAU recently |
| 07:57.42 | Xuerian | night nymbia, NightHawkTheSane. Thanks for the offer :P |
| 07:57.56 | Xuerian|Sleeeeee | p. sleeeeeep. |
| 08:00.17 | renchap | nymbia: what is tradeskill merge ? |
| 08:00.50 | evl | it sort of merges tradeskilsl |
| 08:00.52 | NightHawkTheSane | renchap: when crafting multiple of an item, it merges the cast bar into one continuous progress bar. |
| 08:00.52 | evl | into one bar |
| 08:00.53 | evl | :) |
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| 08:01.00 | Kinkx | if you make 20 bandages it shows the total time it will take to make 20 |
| 08:01.27 | renchap | ok |
| 08:01.38 | renchap | now i need to find how i should translate this :) |
| 08:02.49 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, put "eat your flesh" (but in french, obviously) and call it a day. then see how many people pester nymbia, and laugh at him :D |
| 08:03.21 | nymbia | haha |
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| 08:07.06 | renchap | I hate translating tooltips |
| 08:08.12 | Kinkx | Would be nice if Quartz had "Failed" and "Interrupt" thing, like show how much left of the cast when you get interrupted, and show when you fail to cast |
| 08:08.13 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r35492 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: |
| 08:08.13 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: |
| 08:08.13 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:08.29 | manub | still getting lots of no public versions in WAU :( |
| 08:08.43 | Kinkx | you're suppose to |
| 08:09.19 | Kinkx | you will get "no public version" when WAU unpacks the addons, like Cartographer and BigWigs etc |
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| 08:09.33 | manub | oRA2 - Has no public versions - Skipping |
| 08:09.45 | Arrowmaster | oRA2 unpacks too |
| 08:10.04 | manub | Grid - Has no public versions - Skipping ? |
| 08:10.22 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 08:10.33 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom has no public versions. |
| 08:10.35 | Arrowmaster | enable skip version check and delete before extract |
| 08:10.43 | manub | NightHawkTheSane, I'm really proud of this :P |
| 08:10.53 | NightHawkTheSane | manub: hehe. :) |
| 08:10.58 | manub | ^^ |
| 08:11.07 | manub | ok, enabling svc and dbe |
| 08:11.10 | nymbia | manub: are you using 1.6? |
| 08:11.15 | manub | no, nymbia, 1.7 final |
| 08:11.40 | manub | I'm updating mods pressing F10 |
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| 08:11.44 | Arrowmaster | ffs somebody just fix the fucking bug and release it as 1.71 alpha |
| 08:11.46 | manub | it's ok? |
| 08:12.12 | evl | Oh the joys of Subversion updating :D |
| 08:12.26 | manub | anyway, also enabling skip version check and delete before extracting... |
| 08:12.45 | manub | ag_UnitFrames - Has no public versions - Skipping |
| 08:12.55 | Kinkx | evl, can you update all your addons easily with SVN, or do you have to update them one by one? |
| 08:12.56 | renchap | nymbia: can you increase a little the width of the settings window ? |
| 08:12.57 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: or writing your own update script ;) |
| 08:13.12 | evl | I just mark all and SVN update but yeah |
| 08:13.30 | Kinkx | Cool :) |
| 08:13.35 | manub | ^^ |
| 08:13.36 | Arrowmaster | seriously somebody fix the bug and release it as 1.71 alpha, fuck the private stability testing and all that other shit |
| 08:13.47 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35493 10Quartz/TradeskillMerge/TradeskillMerge.lua: |
| 08:13.47 | CIA-23 | Quartz_TradeskillMerge: |
| 08:13.47 | CIA-23 | - Have the spark show the current cast while the statusbar is showing the progress of all casts. |
| 08:13.49 | manub | I think I'll go with a manual update |
| 08:13.57 | nymbia | renchap: i'm not sure, lemme look |
| 08:14.03 | Kinkx | Nice nymbia :D |
| 08:14.04 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: <3 that update. |
| 08:14.17 | nymbia | :) |
| 08:14.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyone know if WhoLib is going to be added to Standalones? |
| 08:14.42 | manub | I will switch to this Quartz :P |
| 08:14.53 | Arrowmaster | bah im going to bed |
| 08:15.06 | manub | it's safe to download it even without 2.1? ;) |
| 08:15.18 | Kinkx | nn Arrowmaster |
| 08:15.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Arrowmaster, night |
| 08:15.25 | manub | nn :) |
| 08:15.35 | NightHawkTheSane | manub: yep, the 2.1specific stuff doesnt activate in 2.0 |
| 08:15.38 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r35494 10Decursive/localization.kr.lua: |
| 08:15.38 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 08:15.39 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 08:15.40 | manub | ok, ty |
| 08:15.40 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35495 10Quartz/Latency/Latency.lua: |
| 08:15.40 | CIA-23 | Quartz_Latency: |
| 08:15.40 | CIA-23 | - Fix a nil error when TradeskillMerge stole the cast start event |
| 08:15.54 | manub | doing some great manual mods update T_T brb :P |
| 08:16.45 | renchap | nymbia: in gcd settings, i need to invert the two words for the spell names (i have PrincipanSort, i need SortPrincipal) |
| 08:17.49 | nevcairiel | guess no 2.1 today eh? |
| 08:17.57 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: unlikely |
| 08:18.16 | manub | I'm still using OmniCC, there's another mod which supports CD on bars and that's ACE2? I'm using BT3 |
| 08:18.36 | NightHawkTheSane | just keep using omnicc, it's good and works well. :) |
| 08:18.42 | manub | kk ^^ |
| 08:18.56 | nymbia | renchap: ok. But I don't want to cause a conflict with your file, so just skip that one for now |
| 08:18.56 | renchap | CooldownCOunt |
| 08:19.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Unlikely? The PTR just got another patch! |
| 08:19.19 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 08:19.24 | nevcairiel | that makes it so unlikely |
| 08:19.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, as in unlikely they'll patch 2.1 tomorrow :P |
| 08:19.38 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i guess today now. |
| 08:19.39 | nymbia | purl said they would |
| 08:19.54 | NightHawkTheSane | purl's a dirty liar. |
| 08:20.04 | nymbia | purl, you suck |
| 08:20.27 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 08:20.27 | nevcairiel | whats the downtime in US then? 3am or 5am? |
| 08:20.27 | Gngsk | 5 |
| 08:20.27 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: 5am iirc. |
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| 08:20.37 | nevcairiel | so not really patching downtime :( |
| 08:20.46 | NightHawkTheSane | not so much |
| 08:20.56 | nevcairiel | oh well another week |
| 08:21.38 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35496 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - memory optimization with auras |
| 08:24.41 | Health | I wonder if I should upgrade my pitbull.. didn't do it for a month or so |
| 08:24.52 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 08:24.55 | ckknight | should work |
| 08:25.16 | Health | I added my own omglolwtf barfade effect which will break |
| 08:25.28 | ckknight | just use PitBull_BarFader |
| 08:26.03 | syeren | ckknight, I hate druids :/ |
| 08:26.15 | nymbia | syeren: and they hate you |
| 08:26.16 | syeren | I played against thee in arena last night, and ever since you made it track what form they're in. |
| 08:26.21 | syeren | Yeah, fun shit on the FPS. |
| 08:26.36 | syeren | *three. |
| 08:26.49 | Punkie` | nymbia: Am I supposed to be able to ctrl+click from pt3browser so I can look straight into wardrobe? Because I can ctrl+click, it opens wardrobe but isn't shown :( |
| 08:27.10 | nymbia | Punkie`: hrm, odd |
| 08:27.11 | ckknight | syeren: since they shift so often or so? |
| 08:27.13 | ckknight | syeren: or what? |
| 08:27.19 | syeren | They just shifted often. |
| 08:27.25 | syeren | And I went from fucking 94 FPS to 10. |
| 08:27.31 | syeren | And when they stopped switching, back. |
| 08:27.34 | syeren | Was annoying as hell. |
| 08:27.44 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 08:27.45 | ckknight | I'll look into it |
| 08:27.58 | syeren | I've always had problems with druids since that change for some reason :/ |
| 08:28.05 | syeren | Just last night going against three was yeah. |
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| 08:28.56 | syeren | New Auras system is getting better and better though! |
| 08:28.56 | syeren | :p |
| 08:29.32 | ckknight | syeren: actually, with DogTag's new aura tracking system, I may not need to do the model hax |
| 08:29.50 | syeren | "model hax?" |
| 08:30.20 | ckknight | syeren: how it figures out the current shapeshift form is by setting a model to that unit, checking the model file |
| 08:30.26 | syeren | Oki. |
| 08:30.33 | syeren | I don't use portraits or anything. |
| 08:30.39 | ckknight | doesn't matter. |
| 08:30.43 | syeren | I've just noticed that druids have always been bad for me since then :/ |
| 08:30.51 | ckknight | DogTag does that on its own |
| 08:31.00 | ckknight | setting the model to the unit is probably what's killing your FPS |
| 08:31.42 | syeren | It's just strange, I mostly run at 70+ FPS at all times |
| 08:31.46 | syeren | Then a druid comes along... |
| 08:31.48 | syeren | And yeah ;p |
| 08:32.04 | syeren | And I imagine it would have had to do more work with the party targets being enabled ckk? |
| 08:32.24 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35497 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.lua: |
| 08:32.25 | CIA-23 | PT3Browser: |
| 08:32.25 | CIA-23 | - Fixed ctrl-clicking to dressing room an item. I wonder when blizz broke that? |
| 08:32.25 | nymbia | Punkie`: ^ |
| 08:33.00 | ckknight | syeren: well, for each target is another druid, another shapeshift check every 0.15 seconds, which means in a 3v3, you'd have target, party1target, party2target all doing the checks every 0.15 seconds |
| 08:33.47 | nymbia | that thought makes me want to cry. |
| 08:33.55 | ckknight | and I'll fix it |
| 08:33.56 | syeren | Well we was doing 5s ;p |
| 08:33.59 | syeren | Thank you ckk :) |
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| 08:35.40 | CIA-23 | 03saroz * r35498 10sRaidFrames/ (3 files): sRaidFrames: Clean up localization files, why isn't there a smarter way to do this? |
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| 08:36.09 | Industrial | cus localisation is dumb :P |
| 08:36.19 | Industrial | l2english kthx |
| 08:36.59 | Punkie` | nymbia: <3 |
| 08:37.31 | nymbia | :) |
| 08:37.46 | nymbia | nap time, later guys |
| 08:39.35 | syeren | Does anyone code on oRA here? |
| 08:39.52 | syeren | I don't like how "Target MT1" is actually "Use Flash Heal on MT1" :/ |
| 08:40.45 | [Ammo] | probably your own keybinding settings? |
| 08:40.55 | [Ammo] | or clickcasting settings |
| 08:41.33 | manub | any mod to replace GMail? |
| 08:41.42 | CIA-23 | 03renchap * r35499 10Quartz/ (Quartz.toc locale/Quartz-frFR.lua): Quartz: Adding frFR translation |
| 08:43.07 | nevcairiel | oh right Quartz, i wanted to try that |
| 08:44.32 | Fisker- | +s |
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| 08:48.39 | Laric | is there a good way to hande localization on strings like "Player: "..unitname.." is getting item: "..itemname.."." in a way that in another language the variables can come in a different order etc. |
| 08:50.03 | Laric | is there some kind of token replacement that is efficient enough to use for localization? |
| 08:50.10 | Megalon | Laric: format |
| 08:50.13 | NightHawkTheSane | You know, I bet in a couple more major versions, php will really be a great language. shame it's such a strugle to use sometimes now though .>< |
| 08:50.18 | Kinkx | manub - Postal is a nice mail mod |
| 08:51.44 | Kinkx | GMail and CT_mailmod are pretty much identical though, so you could just get CT_Mailmod if you're happy with how GMail worked |
| 08:52.04 | Laric | Megalon how do you use format in such a string like that? |
| 08:52.35 | Megalon | "Player: "..unitname.." is getting item: "..itemname.."." becomes "Player: %s is getting item: %s." |
| 08:52.46 | Megalon | %s states that the values inserted will be handeled as strings |
| 08:53.02 | Megalon | there are other placeholders for different numbertypes |
| 08:53.19 | Megalon | and then something like |
| 08:53.42 | [Ammo] | I thought you could specify numbers as well for orders |
| 08:53.48 | [Ammo] | but that might have been with regexps :p |
| 08:53.48 | Laric | well the problem is to control then what variable is getting inserted where in the string. This seems to assume the variables should be put in specific order |
| 08:54.05 | Megalon | format(L["Player: %s is getting item: %s."], unitname, itemname) |
| 08:54.23 | Megalon | L["Player: %s is getting item: %s."]:format(unitname, itemname) will also work i think |
| 08:55.01 | [Ammo] | Megalon: laric is searching for a way to put the itemname first for another locale |
| 08:55.12 | [Ammo] | without changing the format call |
| 08:55.17 | Laric | Megalon: the problem is that in a different locale the string should be "Item: ".. itemname.." is given to player: "..unitname |
| 08:55.43 | Laric | [Ammo] exactly |
| 08:55.47 | Megalon | ah |
| 08:55.50 | Megalon | different order |
| 08:55.51 | Megalon | also |
| 08:56.22 | Laric | is like %s1 and %s2 possible or? |
| 08:56.25 | manub | someone here using XLoot and its derivates? |
| 08:56.47 | Laric | manub yes |
| 08:56.52 | [Ammo] | laric: i thought something like that was possible |
| 08:56.53 | [Ammo] | but not sure |
| 08:57.04 | manub | I'm having some problems changing the guild loot announcement threshold |
| 08:57.12 | manub | tryed something like /xloot master guild Rare |
| 08:57.15 | manub | but it don't work |
| 08:57.22 | ckknight | Laric: %1$s |
| 08:57.57 | [Ammo] | manub: /xlm options |
| 08:58.02 | [Ammo] | and click to the correct module |
| 08:58.05 | [Ammo] | and set it there |
| 08:58.10 | manub | ty,[Ammo] |
| 08:58.12 | Laric | ckknight format(L["Player: %1$s is getting item: %2$s."], unitname, itemname) then? |
| 08:58.15 | [Ammo] | the guild loot announcement sucks indeed per default |
| 08:58.32 | ckknight | Laric: L["Player: %1$s is getting item: %2$s."]:format(unitname, itemname) |
| 08:58.43 | ckknight | colon syntax is nicer, imho |
| 08:59.21 | Laric | ckknight thanks :P |
| 09:00.02 | Laric | so : is only to pass variablething:function? |
| 09:00.11 | Laric | as first parameter? |
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| 09:02.31 | ckknight | yes. |
| 09:02.44 | ckknight | basically, asdf:thing() => asdf.thing(asdf) |
| 09:03.05 | ckknight | for declaration, function asdf:thing() end => function asdf.thing(self) end => asdf.thing = function(self) end |
| 09:03.47 | Laric | nice |
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| 09:05.15 | wobin | hm |
| 09:05.18 | wobin | patchalicious? |
| 09:09.26 | Fisker- | :)? |
| 09:10.19 | evl | ckknight: I've found that if you click a target that starts casting a spell and then select another target mid-cast the castbaricon will still be shown, I think someone borked the last patch because it used to work! |
| 09:10.36 | ckknight | funkeh. |
| 09:11.23 | Fisker- | been there for a couple of days now |
| 09:12.10 | phyber | ok, if I do 'local function somename(arg)', I should be able to use that function within my addon my just calling 'somename(wibble)', right? |
| 09:12.57 | phyber | I think Lua is just being pissy because I create the function after I create the function that calls it ;) |
| 09:13.06 | [Ammo] | phyber: put local somename at the top of your file |
| 09:13.10 | [Ammo] | and then define it somewhere else |
| 09:13.23 | [Ammo] | or define your local function at the top |
| 09:13.34 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r35500 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 09:13.34 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 09:13.34 | CIA-23 | - Reorder some functions. SetWatchedFactionName() created above the function that calls it instead of below. |
| 09:15.11 | Laric | phyber and it is only available inside that same lua file. iirc |
| 09:15.24 | phyber | that probably answers why my ToggleCollapse failed when trying to make it local too. |
| 09:15.26 | Laric | the scope is file not addon |
| 09:15.32 | phyber | Laric: yeah, that one I was aware of :) |
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| 09:18.14 | Silviu- | phyber nice commit number ;) |
| 09:20.25 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r35501 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 09:20.25 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 09:20.25 | CIA-23 | - Try to make ToggleCollapse() local again. |
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| 09:22.23 | phyber | Silviu-: if you're playing now and want to check those out, that would be great :) |
| 09:22.34 | phyber | I'm at work so can't check for the moment ;) |
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| 09:22.50 | Silviu- | Oky, one sec |
| 09:22.58 | phyber | the ToggleCollapse() thing is just when you click the faction headers in the rep menu, if you didn't know :) |
| 09:23.49 | Silviu- | So what i should test ? ;) |
| 09:24.28 | phyber | the error when you gain rep, and just click a faction header or two to see if that collapse/expand properly :) |
| 09:25.02 | Silviu- | collapse/expand works |
| 09:25.39 | Silviu- | let me finish 1 quest |
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| 09:28.23 | manub | how does Manufac gather the item value on the market? :) |
| 09:29.42 | Silviu- | phyber, finished one quest but did not get that error anymore |
| 09:29.53 | Silviu- | But no rep gain eighter so don`t know ^^ |
| 09:30.14 | Sole | hai |
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| 09:31.20 | phyber | hehe, ok. Well, if the ToggleCollapse is working, then the rep gain should too, since the same fix applied to both issues :) |
| 09:32.24 | Silviu- | Oky, thx for the fix :P |
| 09:33.35 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, my perlfu is weak, anyone know much about perl and oop? |
| 09:34.47 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r35502 10XPBarNone/ (Core.lua XPBarNoneLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 09:34.47 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 09:34.47 | CIA-23 | - Removed some commented out functions, and various other unneeded comments. |
| 09:34.47 | CIA-23 | - Removed the '(more)' string from the locales, it's not used anymore. |
| 09:34.58 | phyber | I know about perl, probably less about OOP, unless I'm managing to do that and just don't know it. |
| 09:35.30 | phyber | which is possible in perl, it's also probably plotting my death as I code. |
| 09:35.43 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, well, I have an object in perl, but the class has no member functions, not even accessors for member variables, and I have no idea how access said variables. >< |
| 09:36.13 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlqiYeET0TY |
| 09:36.20 | nevcairiel | cant you directly reference the variables? |
| 09:36.33 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: i want to assume so, but for the life of me i cannot remember/figure out how. |
| 09:36.43 | NightHawkTheSane | like i said, my perlfu is weak >< |
| 09:37.00 | nevcairiel | i dont know much perl .. but i would just think its something like all other languages |
| 09:37.25 | phyber | I get paid to write perl, but I have no idea what you're on about. Brilliant, eh? ;) |
| 09:37.55 | NightHawkTheSane | thats okay, i'm not entirely sure I even know what I'm talking about. :D |
| 09:38.52 | nevcairiel | i guess $obj->variable wont work eh? |
| 09:39.13 | NightHawkTheSane | nope, that's method acess syntax, so it just complains that no method exists |
| 09:39.23 | phyber | NightHawk, got a pastey of the code? |
| 09:39.35 | phyber | or an example to play with. |
| 09:41.23 | NightHawkTheSane | phyber: well, here's the Data::Dumper() output of the object: http://ace.pastey.net/30777 |
| 09:41.27 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: $obj::variable |
| 09:41.30 | ckknight | I thought |
| 09:43.35 | NightHawkTheSane | What's happening is my perl script is running a php script which grabs an rss feed, parses it, and echos the serialized object, which gets assigned to a variable back in the perl script, which unseralizes it and makes it an object of the PHP::Serialization::Object::<class name> type, which has no member variables. |
| 09:44.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: throws a warning, and Dumping the result shows up as 'undef' |
| 09:44.39 | ckknight | meh |
| 09:44.42 | ckknight | look it up |
| 09:44.43 | phyber | can you not access it with $hash->{'variable'} ? |
| 09:45.01 | phyber | I'm not sure how the blessing makes it special, but maybe that still works. |
| 09:45.53 | NightHawkTheSane | phyber: ahh! that works. total brain fart on that. Thanks. :) |
| 09:45.58 | phyber | cool :) |
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| 09:49.44 | Sole | fuck me beautiful |
| 09:49.49 | Sole | I got a file on my computer that I cant delete |
| 09:49.58 | Sole | my own stupid fault for downloading it |
| 09:52.34 | Sais | Got an odd character in the filename? |
| 09:52.35 | phyber | heh |
| 09:52.38 | Sais | or is it CON or somesuch? |
| 09:54.53 | Sais | There are little tricks for getting round both of those problems... (I'm assuming DOS, of course - linux doesn't tned to have those issues) |
| 09:55.18 | Sole | Ive found a technique |
| 09:55.40 | Sole | stop explorer.exe , open cmd promt, DEL <file>, start explorer.exe again |
| 09:55.42 | nevcairiel | its still so weird, you can create those files when you download them, but you cannot get rid of them easily again |
| 09:56.04 | Sole | first time Ive come across this |
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| 09:56.30 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35503 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make configMode for party/raid work in WoW 2.1 |
| 09:56.55 | evl | ckknight: I love your make X work in Y.Z patches, they just make a lot of sense. |
| 09:57.15 | ckknight | that sarcasm or truth? |
| 09:57.44 | evl | Now that you ask, I really don't know |
| 09:57.44 | Sais | Sole: Interesting that explorer will not allow you to delete it... |
| 09:57.53 | Sole | well Im in the process of trying it |
| 09:58.13 | ckknight | evl: :-P |
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| 10:00.58 | Jagobah | is nymbia around? |
| 10:01.47 | Punkie` | nah, he went for a nap |
| 10:02.27 | Sole | wow |
| 10:02.34 | Sole | The file name or extension is too long. |
| 10:02.36 | Sole | fuck windows |
| 10:02.47 | Necrathex | ^^ |
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| 10:03.34 | Necrathex | does windows still choke on filenames starting with a dot? |
| 10:03.39 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 10:03.59 | Sole | man the file name isnt even that long |
| 10:04.13 | Sole | only 4 lines in my console window :P |
| 10:04.57 | Sole | I should stop downloading weird porn |
| 10:06.22 | Megalon | lamp? |
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| 10:13.09 | Tekkub | okey, time for another tekRampage |
| 10:13.16 | Sole | <3 del *.jpg , damn windows freaking out on long file names |
| 10:13.43 | Tekkub | someone in here is :TriggerEvent("UNIT_AURA", ...) ing |
| 10:14.09 | Tekkub | and I just spent an hour trying to firgure out why the args Kyubi was giving me weren't there |
| 10:14.52 | Megalon | TERRORISM AND VIOLENCE |
| 10:15.03 | ckknight | Tekkub: not it. |
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| 10:15.28 | Tekkub | no ckk, you know the "don't trigger Blizzard events" rule |
| 10:18.25 | Sole | lol |
| 10:19.05 | Tekkub | it was sole.... fucking bastard |
| 10:19.13 | Sole | da fck :O |
| 10:19.26 | Sole | ~whaleslap Tekkub |
| 10:19.39 | purl | ACTION beats Tekkub upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 10:20.01 | Tekkub | purl, you suck |
| 10:20.04 | purl | and very well I might add |
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| 10:23.43 | Sais | sole: Got rid of it yet? If not....maybe http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1176279568 will help :) |
| 10:23.53 | Sole | Sais: yeah I got rid of it |
| 10:23.55 | evl | FUCKING CUNTS |
| 10:23.59 | Sole | no u |
| 10:24.06 | evl | I've been farming CoT rep for the last two days |
| 10:24.11 | evl | And now they nerf my dagger |
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| 10:24.19 | evl | so it doesn't stack with Thunderclap |
| 10:24.22 | evl | and thus is utterly useless |
| 10:24.23 | evl | :( |
| 10:24.26 | Sole | the dagger isnt that great anyway |
| 10:24.27 | Tekkub | QQ ? |
| 10:24.31 | Sole | just get an emerald ripper :P |
| 10:24.45 | Sole | or malchazeen if you dont have my luck |
| 10:25.00 | Sais | Sorry - went for tea while reading that... ;) |
| 10:25.02 | evl | emerald has much less DPS than Nightblade/Riftmaker after patch |
| 10:25.25 | nevcairiel | my rogue friend is still crying, that malchazeen is noe superior to the glad daggers, and she passed on it last time because she had glad daggers already..^^ |
| 10:25.53 | evl | Well glad dagger got a buff today |
| 10:25.57 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 10:26.04 | nevcairiel | still 2 maxdmg below malchazeen :P |
| 10:26.10 | sbu | morning |
| 10:27.44 | Sole | well Ive rerolled my rogue |
| 10:28.03 | Sole | rogue just plain isnt fun to play in 5v5 |
| 10:28.16 | evl | I don't think 5v5 is nearly as fun as 3v3 |
| 10:28.22 | Sole | ehh |
| 10:28.27 | Sole | Id still rather play my shammy |
| 10:28.37 | evl | I cba to reroll everytime they nerf my class |
| 10:28.43 | evl | I've played rogue since US closed beta |
| 10:28.43 | Sole | dude |
| 10:28.51 | Sole | Ive been playing my rogue since closed beta also |
| 10:28.57 | Sole | I need a change of playstyle |
| 10:30.12 | Sole | I didnt do too bad in 2v2 |
| 10:30.32 | Sole | got to 2300s rating with a rogue/warlock/druid/priest team |
| 10:30.46 | Sole | in BG9 too :P |
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| 10:37.14 | evl | Sole: playing with a mage but it's not going very well :P |
| 10:37.33 | Sole | evl: rogues get it up the pooper in some match ups :( |
| 10:37.34 | evl | Sole: druid + rogue or priest + rogue owns us very easy |
| 10:37.50 | Sole | rogue + warlock, try that combo |
| 10:37.57 | Sole | its interesting to say the least |
| 10:38.00 | evl | I have with a friend, it's very nice |
| 10:39.01 | evl | it was mostly a breeze, sap someone, blind the, fear them, maybe sap them again |
| 10:39.05 | evl | so it was 99% 2v1 |
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| 10:42.11 | ckknight | pally + druid ;-) |
| 10:42.18 | evl | too easy |
| 10:42.26 | evl | pally vs rogue is like zzzz |
| 10:42.34 | evl | no instant heals, the minute he spends his shield he's fucked |
| 10:43.03 | sbu | ckknight: oh, you put auras nice, nice :) |
| 10:43.19 | sbu | already an idea of the performance/cpu impact this will have? |
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| 10:43.34 | ckknight | sbu: not very much at all, since it's lazy |
| 10:43.42 | sbu | meaing? |
| 10:44.18 | ckknight | sbu: only calculates at the very end, which means not at all if it can be helped |
| 10:45.27 | Tekkub | people still use Real Media?.... |
| 10:45.35 | Tekkub | Real is still in business....? |
| 10:45.37 | Tekkub | WTF? |
| 10:45.39 | nevcairiel | sadly, yes |
| 10:45.45 | ckknight | <buffering> yes |
| 10:45.46 | sbu | my mobile phone uses real player :o |
| 10:45.55 | Elkano | Tekkub, M$ is still in buissnes, too... |
| 10:46.06 | Tekkub | how can you be in business when everyone thinks your codec is shit? |
| 10:46.12 | Tekkub | people use MS |
| 10:46.31 | Elkano | Tekkub, everybody thinks Windows is shit, too... |
| 10:46.39 | sbu | hmm no, dont think so Elkano |
| 10:46.42 | Tekkub | but they use it |
| 10:46.54 | Elkano | well... same for real |
| 10:46.58 | Tekkub | se yea, "how can .... when noone will use your codec cause it's shit" |
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| 10:50.18 | winkiller | wowaceupdater told me that sct had no public accessible version. but sctd bugged me that new sct wqs missing |
| 10:50.18 | phyber | Tekkub: because they're going to come back any day now! at least, that's what they tell the investors. |
| 10:50.30 | winkiller | had that more than once lately. any ideas? |
| 10:51.23 | Megalon | the server seems rather slow atm |
| 10:51.52 | Megalon | @winkiller |
| 10:53.13 | evl | Anyone got a good setup for BM heroic? |
| 10:53.34 | nevcairiel | BM? |
| 10:53.41 | Megalon | black morass? |
| 10:53.44 | nevcairiel | ahh |
| 10:53.59 | Megalon | dps |
| 10:54.05 | nevcairiel | we did it with warrior rogue mage shadowpri restodruid |
| 10:54.12 | evl | who on adds |
| 10:54.17 | nevcairiel | mage |
| 10:54.19 | evl | I've wiped 3 times on 18/18 |
| 10:54.28 | evl | because adds obliterate us in the last portals |
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| 10:54.40 | Stephmw | evl: I feel your pain |
| 10:54.40 | nevcairiel | shadowpri is great to have there, to keep the group up without stressing the healer |
| 10:55.00 | Megalon | don't despawn all add on portal 18? |
| 10:55.02 | evl | Last time we had Rogue, Shadowpriest, Prot warrior, Holy pala and Warlock on adds |
| 10:55.20 | evl | But warlock gets nuked down sooner or later |
| 10:55.38 | Stephmw | I typically just run out of mana :( |
| 10:55.56 | evl | We were thinking of getting an MS warrior to do adds |
| 10:55.57 | Fisker- | wwe always use the beacons on the last 5 waves |
| 10:56.20 | evl | Yeah and put them just behind the portal right? |
| 10:56.25 | evl | so it nukes both adds and keeper |
| 10:56.28 | Fisker- | yup |
| 10:56.53 | evl | Adds are the only problem |
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| 10:57.44 | sbu_ | *stab dsl router* |
| 10:57.57 | CIA-23 | 03jerry * r35504 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: added API for bonus names, slight speed improvement and a bug fix |
| 10:58.04 | sbu_ | you are a dsl router? :/ |
| 10:58.04 | nevcairiel | anyway, off to university, laters. |
| 10:58.09 | nevcairiel | i can be |
| 10:58.24 | nevcairiel | i am not too fast tho. |
| 10:58.26 | nevcairiel | off now. |
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| 11:26.47 | evl | http://ishi.blog2.fc2.com/blog-entry-85.html |
| 11:26.51 | evl | haha, best game |
| 11:30.34 | Fisker- | just a crappy version of falling sand |
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| 11:39.19 | CIA-23 | 03tekkub * r35505 10Kyubi/Core.lua: Kyubi no Kitsune - De-aced the event handler, someone's firing off UNIT_AURA with extra args and it's really screwing me up... *growl* |
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| 11:50.51 | zoktar | anyone had the link for the patchnotes again ? =) |
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| 11:54.29 | evl | Fisker-: it's snails! |
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| 12:05.38 | Hjalte | zoktar, why, have they been updated or anything? |
| 12:06.48 | evl | doubtl it |
| 12:06.58 | evl | since mmo-champion and wor doesn't have anything about it |
| 12:07.25 | Bibi`ouF | mmo-champion ! highlight ! |
| 12:07.28 | Bibi`ouF | what can Bibi do for you ! |
| 12:07.37 | renchap | give me money ! |
| 12:07.44 | Bibi`ouF | Can't, don't have any ! |
| 12:07.53 | Fisker- | Bibi`ouF ! |
| 12:07.55 | renchap | you lie ! |
| 12:07.57 | Bibi`ouF | actually, the server will probably burn today. |
| 12:08.24 | Bibi`ouF | 1110 logged, and it doesnt count people logged on the homepage |
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| 12:24.31 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35506 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - optimizations for clusters. In WoW21, share templates. |
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| 12:36.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Why does Quartz keep telling me Invalid Spell for the GC thingy :( |
| 12:39.19 | wobin | What are you using? |
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| 12:41.31 | ag` | hey |
| 12:41.31 | [Ammo] | hey |
| 12:41.31 | wobin | hey |
| 12:41.49 | Kirkburn|afk | wobin, I just use something from my castbar, right? |
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| 12:42.06 | Kirkburn|afk | I was trying "Arcane Shot(Rank 5)" |
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| 12:42.22 | wobin | Doesn't arcane shot have a cooldown? |
| 12:42.31 | [Ammo] | I use corruption |
| 12:42.35 | [Ammo] | because it's instant cast |
| 12:42.36 | wobin | Try an instant |
| 12:42.38 | [Ammo] | you need to use an isntant cast |
| 12:42.50 | TheKarn | has patch been applied in us? |
| 12:42.51 | wobin | That's what the tip at the start suggests =) |
| 12:42.56 | wobin | TheKarn: Not afaik |
| 12:43.04 | wobin | just tried logging in, no patch =( |
| 12:43.13 | TheKarn | /cry |
| 12:43.19 | wobin | /agree |
| 12:43.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Arcane shot /is/ instant cast! |
| 12:43.41 | Kirkburn|afk | but, heh :P |
| 12:43.44 | TheKarn | i want to make my frozen shadoweave set |
| 12:43.48 | [Ammo] | ag`: I've just converted violation to parser-1.1 for the time being since it's more complete and will hopefully solve most of the missing data |
| 12:43.52 | TheKarn | fucking shoddy tailoring spec. |
| 12:43.55 | [Ammo] | not committed yet, testing it |
| 12:44.37 | sbu | hm, 1.1 > 3? :) |
| 12:44.42 | [Ammo] | atm yeah |
| 12:44.53 | [Ammo] | 3.0 misses 80% of the stuff |
| 12:44.57 | [Ammo] | it's just not good enough |
| 12:45.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Yay, Hunter's Mark works :) |
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| 12:49.07 | ckknight | sbu: ping |
| 12:49.15 | sbu | ckknight: yep? |
| 12:49.28 | ckknight | I got shield wall, last stand, shadowform |
| 12:49.32 | ckknight | what else you want? |
| 12:49.46 | Fisker- | omg private servar |
| 12:49.53 | TheKarn | lewl? |
| 12:50.00 | ckknight | sbu: for DogTag. |
| 12:50.07 | sbu | mom plz |
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| 12:50.46 | ckknight | mom? |
| 12:50.51 | TheKarn | moment |
| 12:51.02 | ckknight | weird abbreviation |
| 12:51.07 | TheKarn | silly americans thinking mom is short for mother... |
| 12:51.36 | TheKarn | but i agree mom(ent) is strange |
| 12:51.48 | [dRaCo] | pretty common in german ;) |
| 12:52.33 | sbu | *sigh* yep... |
| 12:52.37 | sbu | ckknight: misdirection, ice block, invisibility, stealth |
| 12:52.41 | ckknight | well we live in America |
| 12:52.43 | ckknight | woo! |
| 12:52.46 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35507 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added Tags IsShieldWall, IsShadowform, IsLastStand, IsFeignedDeath, HasSoulstone. |
| 12:52.59 | Punkie` | I use mo for moment :P |
| 12:53.11 | sbu | where is america? :/ |
| 12:53.15 | [dRaCo] | ckk, maybe u do :þ |
| 12:53.21 | evl | ckknight: very nice tags |
| 12:53.27 | ckknight | sbu: we're everywher. |
| 12:53.31 | ckknight | everywhere* |
| 12:53.32 | ckknight | evl: yep. |
| 12:53.47 | ckknight | I'm gonna add a generic HasAura(name) later |
| 12:53.48 | TheKarn | mo(ment) makes more sense |
| 12:54.16 | evl | ckknight: I'll try to get around to wacking that castbaricon bug later today, I'm gonna start by stripping off any supposed fixes :P |
| 12:54.24 | ckknight | good :-) |
| 12:54.43 | grzesieq | Since I haven't been here for a while, are there any new cool mods I should check out? :) |
| 12:55.02 | ckknight | grzesieq: PitBull |
| 12:55.23 | sbu | grzesieq: DUF :/ |
| 12:55.25 | SunTiger | yeah, they have this newfangled little thing called ace |
| 12:55.26 | grzesieq | Got that :) |
| 12:55.27 | SunTiger | check it out. |
| 12:55.31 | evl | grzesieq: Quarts, PitBull, Violation :) |
| 12:55.59 | grzesieq | DUF? As in discord unit frames? |
| 12:55.59 | SunTiger | what quarts ? |
| 12:56.03 | evl | castbar thingy with niceness |
| 12:56.26 | sbu | hm im looking forward to Cryect's dmgmeters, screenshot looks awesome ;o |
| 12:56.44 | grzesieq | sbu: link please ;-) |
| 12:56.46 | SunTiger | will it be awesome like recap ? |
| 12:57.13 | sbu | grzesieq: http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1323/recounttestix4.jpg |
| 12:57.37 | CIA-23 | 03jerry * r35508 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add some missing bonuses in the list |
| 12:57.39 | CIA-23 | 03laric * r35509 10AoFDKP/ (AoFDKP.lua AoFDKP_locale.lua dkp.bat dkp_list.lua): |
| 12:57.39 | CIA-23 | AoFDKP : |
| 12:57.39 | CIA-23 | -Cleaning up |
| 12:58.04 | grzesieq | sbu: looking really nice! |
| 12:58.25 | grzesieq | and Magtheridon needs to l2dps :s |
| 12:59.46 | Chompers | IsFeignedDeath |
| 12:59.48 | Chompers | at last :D |
| 13:00.03 | Punkie` | sbu: is there more information about this addon? |
| 13:00.11 | sbu | i dont know, ask Cryect :) |
| 13:00.34 | Punkie` | I think he's touching himself |
| 13:01.01 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r35510 10Violation/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:01.01 | CIA-23 | Violation: switch to using parser-1.1 instead of parser-3.0. All modules updated to reflect this change. |
| 13:01.01 | CIA-23 | This should give more accurate data. It could also eat your babies. |
| 13:01.28 | evl | Evil changes |
| 13:01.51 | evl | [Ammo]: How do I brag to a channel about the current stat of the meters |
| 13:02.05 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35511 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added IsStealthed (checks for Stealth, Prowl, or Shadowmeld), HasMisdirection, HasInvisibility, HasIceBlock. |
| 13:02.07 | [Ammo] | you don't |
| 13:02.25 | grzesieq | would Violation be able to show my current dps in a compact way? :) |
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| 13:03.08 | [Ammo] | grzesieq: yes turn on dps module for text display |
| 13:03.10 | sbu | wow ckknight, very nice :) |
| 13:03.12 | sbu | thank you |
| 13:03.13 | evl | [Ammo]: But I'm outdps'ing the feral druid by like a billion! |
| 13:03.22 | [Ammo] | it'll then display: DPS: 1234 instead of Violation |
| 13:04.08 | Punkie` | ammo did you add the scrollwheel thing to any svn commit yet? |
| 13:04.10 | [Ammo] | in yuor fubar |
| 13:04.12 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:04.17 | [Ammo] | about 30 mins after you requested it |
| 13:04.31 | Punkie` | neat |
| 13:05.24 | sbu | ckknight: i guess its ok if i commit my raid layout (compact, sRF look-a-like, information overload) when its done? :o |
| 13:05.24 | grzesieq | This eloquence addon is really nice. |
| 13:05.36 | ckknight | sbu: yea, no issue there |
| 13:05.41 | grzesieq | Who would've thought that the RPers have useful addons ;-) |
| 13:05.42 | Punkie` | ammo make it do secure pie too |
| 13:05.51 | ckknight | grzesieq: I've used that. It's nice |
| 13:06.22 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: haha |
| 13:06.58 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 13:07.04 | Punkie` | That pie chart thing would just be freaking awesome if it was self-only |
| 13:07.05 | Gnarfoz | my Pitbull stopped working |
| 13:07.11 | sbu | ckknight: going to be some hacked up ABF - and btw... some definitions (power bar, health bar) are in there multiple (2 :p) times? |
| 13:07.23 | sbu | Gnarfoz: oh? |
| 13:07.34 | Gnarfoz | sbu: yea, weird oO |
| 13:07.36 | Gnarfoz | just updated |
| 13:07.52 | ckknight | sbu: that shouldn't be |
| 13:08.43 | ckknight | sbu: what lines? |
| 13:09.36 | sbu | ah its heealthtext |
| 13:09.46 | sbu | 210 + 901 |
| 13:09.48 | sbu | gnnnl |
| 13:09.50 | sbu | 210 and 901 |
| 13:12.02 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35512 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - remove some duplicate text references. |
| 13:12.13 | Gnarfoz | could any of the last 6 commits to pitbull have made a SV reset necessary? |
| 13:12.18 | Gnarfoz | mine just doesn't show up :) |
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| 13:13.18 | evl | [Ammo]: bugged external reference in new Violation, the path doesn't exist |
| 13:13.25 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 13:13.27 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 13:13.52 | evl | You should be glad I revealed this before someone came and hit you in the face with a bat |
| 13:14.17 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r35513 10Violation/libs/: Violation: repair external to parserlib |
| 13:14.19 | grzesieq | ye |
| 13:14.53 | grzesieq | I was wondering why it didn't show up on the files page. |
| 13:16.02 | grzesieq | How often does that page update? |
| 13:16.25 | Fisker- | btw ckknight |
| 13:16.44 | Fisker- | Cartographer can't show blood guard porung in shattered halls because he's an heroic only boss |
| 13:17.01 | Fisker- | instanceloot that is |
| 13:17.12 | ckknight | k? |
| 13:17.18 | [Ammo] | grzesieq: 20 40 0 I think |
| 13:17.22 | [Ammo] | every 20 mins |
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| 13:18.30 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: any reason why 35503 of pitbull would work, and the latest one just not show up at all? |
| 13:18.48 | Gnarfoz | any major changes between that one and now? |
| 13:19.07 | ckknight | no, do you have any errors? |
| 13:19.17 | Gnarfoz | none :< |
| 13:19.56 | ckknight | then I can't help |
| 13:20.21 | Gnarfoz | I'll try again later |
| 13:20.26 | Gnarfoz | maybe wow itself somehow fucked up ^^ |
| 13:21.07 | evl | [Ammo]: So why is Violation reverting back to Parser-1.1? I thought Parser-3.0 was the new cool thing? |
| 13:21.49 | Fisker- | because it doesn't work properly |
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| 13:21.53 | Fisker- | missing data etc. |
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| 13:22.58 | evl | But why was Parser-3.0 started when Parser-1.1 works? |
| 13:23.41 | Fisker- | because 1.1 is ineffecient |
| 13:23.42 | Mikk | because all programmers want to toss out old stuff that they don't understand and write new better stuff? |
| 13:23.46 | Mikk | or that =P |
| 13:23.54 | ckknight | because 1.1 has the worst API imaginable |
| 13:23.56 | [Ammo] | parser-3.0 has some nifty event selection stuff |
| 13:24.03 | [Ammo] | but it's based of a player only parser |
| 13:24.04 | ckknight | that's why I started Parser-3.0 |
| 13:24.07 | [Ammo] | and is thus utterly useless |
| 13:24.19 | ckknight | [Ammo]: or it just needs to be expanded. |
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| 13:26.09 | [Ammo] | until it is expanded violation will do fine with 1.1 which also gives the option of tracking decurse etc |
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| 13:26.55 | Silviu- | ckknight Pitbull.lua:1636 unexpected symbol near '=' |
| 13:27.48 | ckknight | no errors, eh, Gnarfoz? |
| 13:27.52 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35514 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - typo |
| 13:28.23 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: it's not like I'd miss the "fatality" screaming of bugsack :p |
| 13:29.12 | evl | With all the talk on WAU, where lies the problem of having SVN mirrors? |
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| 13:30.09 | [Ammo] | evl: proper synchronization |
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| 13:30.28 | evl | several large scale sites must have solved this at some point |
| 13:30.32 | evl | how does code.google.com survive |
| 13:30.44 | Mikk | split projects over servers? |
| 13:30.56 | Xuerian | Someone ping me last night? >_> |
| 13:31.09 | Mikk | I was thinking of pinging you |
| 13:31.16 | Mikk | if that counts =) |
| 13:31.40 | Mikk | Would you mind horribly if I tweaked the random algo in xlootmaster a little? |
| 13:31.58 | Xuerian | Mikk: That's be just fine with me. |
| 13:32.08 | Xuerian | that'd, even |
| 13:32.12 | Xuerian | ... no coffee in the house T.T |
| 13:32.26 | [dRaCo] | if isInRaid(Mikk) giveItemTo(Mikk) |
| 13:32.27 | Mikk | 's just i know my LCPRNGs inside and out and I'd prefer using different result bits than the ones currently being used |
| 13:32.39 | Mikk | ow, no coffee.. my sympathies |
| 13:32.45 | Mikk | that tends to turn into a vicious cycle for me |
| 13:33.07 | Mikk | "shit, no coffee" "need to buy coffee" "want coffee before i leave the house" ... "shit, no cofffee" |
| 13:33.15 | Xuerian | Tehehe |
| 13:34.59 | SaisGwaith | catch 22 |
| 13:35.01 | Xuerian | Mikk: Just run whatever you want to do by me first, but I can hardly see turning down anything. I have hardly raided since I started xloot, and never led, so It wasn't coded out of my own experience :p |
| 13:39.02 | Xuerian | I think hell has frozen over... |
| 13:39.16 | Xuerian | a bit of css is working properly in IE, and not in ff.... |
| 13:40.02 | kenlyric | Xuerian: it means your CSS is improperly formed. |
| 13:40.07 | Xuerian | lies |
| 13:40.18 | Xuerian | filthy dirty lies |
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| 13:44.34 | Fisker- | :o |
| 13:44.44 | Fisker- | pitbull stop wroking for me as well :( |
| 13:45.00 | Chompers | PitBull ate my children |
| 13:45.03 | Fisker- | probably the one you just fixed right? :P |
| 13:45.05 | Xuerian | stop using svn revision on live |
| 13:45.05 | Chompers | how do i report this? |
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| 13:45.46 | TheKarn | Xuerian, a) ken is right. b) why do you get "shugars" from coffee? coffee should be had with hot water. |
| 13:46.07 | Xuerian | TheKarn: No, but I add sugar to my coffee... Just a little bit, anyway :p |
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| 13:46.17 | TheKarn | HERECY |
| 13:46.30 | Xuerian | TheKarn: And, I know. I'm just running on three hours of sleep, so I prefer to take the easy way out |
| 13:46.57 | Xuerian | TheKarn: And.... I also put a few servings of french vanilla creamer in it. |
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| 13:49.12 | Xuerian | Or well... I have a little coffee with my creamer, sometimes |
| 13:49.20 | Xuerian | It's mostly accidental, really |
| 13:50.05 | TheKarn | ...# |
| 13:51.39 | Chompers | hrm, has anyone ordered that new ATI card? |
| 13:51.44 | Xuerian | .... |
| 13:51.47 | Xuerian | Why would we? |
| 13:51.57 | Chompers | i was thinking of buying one, but the reviews look bad |
| 13:52.17 | Xuerian | .... |
| 13:52.17 | evl | reviews look poop |
| 13:52.17 | evl | get the 8800 and save money |
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| 13:52.17 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 13:52.19 | Xuerian | Nvidia is win anyway. |
| 13:52.31 | evl | http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q2/radeon-hd-2900xt/index.x?pg=1 |
| 13:52.32 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 13:52.39 | Punkie` | omg Funkeh` |
| 13:53.04 | Xuerian | ... |
| 13:53.07 | Funkeh` | omg Punkie` ! |
| 13:53.29 | Chompers | i have no idea, i wanted to hear other peoples opinions of it |
| 13:54.13 | evl | Xuerian: "Ultimately, though, we can't overlook the fact that AMD built a GPU with 700M transistors that has 320 stream processor ALUs and a 512-bit memory interface, yet it just matches or slightly exceeds the real-world performance of the GeForce 8800 GTS" |
| 13:54.20 | Xuerian | Out of the previous discussions on ati vs nvidia in here, it comes down to ati having nice hardware, but totally wasting it with bad drivers |
| 13:54.32 | Xuerian | evl: Well there's that too |
| 13:54.33 | evl | Well you will most likely win overal with nvidia |
| 13:54.48 | evl | I tend to stick to them and why fix it if it ain't broken |
| 13:55.14 | evl | ATI would have to deliver a lot more than just 5% better performance for me to switch away from a brand I've had since Voodoo |
| 13:55.29 | Xuerian | I've regretted buying my X700, even though I hardly use linux. If it isn't delivering decently better performance, I don't see a reason to go with it |
| 13:55.54 | TheKarn | i wouldn't buy an AMD graphics card for a long time yet |
| 13:56.10 | art3mis | i prolly will |
| 13:56.23 | art3mis | i've liked amd and ati for far to long to bother giving nvidia money |
| 13:56.24 | Funkeh` | the graphics card comparisson chart is sooo colourblind friendly |
| 13:57.14 | Xuerian | I like amd, I was friends with my athlon for many years. ATI gave them a bitter taste |
| 13:57.43 | TheKarn | art3mis, i like linux. at the moment ... linux doesnt like AMD graphics card |
| 13:58.09 | Xuerian | And TheKarn wins "Understatement of the Day" this round! |
| 13:58.57 | kenlyric | epic threads are too frequently locked http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=286851200 |
| 13:59.21 | Xuerian | "Welcome to BLizzard Forums" o.0 |
| 13:59.41 | Xuerian | Oh. Had to choose my language. |
| 13:59.42 | Xuerian | Nevermind me. |
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| 14:04.46 | art3mis | yeah karn, give it a couple though, some nerd will code custom drivers for it open source and amd will just borrow it for thier linux drivers install ;P |
| 14:05.00 | Xuerian | ... |
| 14:05.29 | art3mis | i like my x800xl |
| 14:05.36 | art3mis | shrug |
| 14:05.47 | wobin | oh btw, to those who helped me out the other day with computer part decisions, I'm possibly looking into http://www.ticomputers.com.au/desktops.html (the top one) Sure, it's not a build your own, but it's fairly close to what I wanted =) and it's a good price |
| 14:05.59 | Xuerian | my x700, which I paid as much for a year later as I did my 5700Ultra, performs worse all around. |
| 14:06.16 | wobin | might change the case |
| 14:06.45 | Punkie` | Sigh, this rickrolling thing is really obvious and lame |
| 14:07.33 | art3mis | ati was having problems but im guessing that while amd may not crank performance as high as it can you'll end up with a stabler, cooler and generally powerful graphics card |
| 14:08.03 | sbu | hm known problem with cartographer not updating w/ WAU? |
| 14:08.07 | grzesieq | ATI is ok if you uninstall all the default crap and get some decent drivers. |
| 14:08.15 | art3mis | you have to consider that amd is moving into ati and while they arent taking over fully they are getting rid of a lot of the old ati crap and integrating some of thier tech |
| 14:09.00 | art3mis | amd didnt make video cards so even though they've also still got the ati people on hand, its not gonna be as fluid as one would hop for a year or so |
| 14:09.37 | art3mis | but seeing as how i'd pick an amd64dual over an intel dual... im a touch biased ;P |
| 14:10.01 | Xuerian | Which is a very good reason to *not* get a amd right now |
| 14:10.06 | Xuerian | er well, ati |
| 14:10.09 | art3mis | ati yeah |
| 14:10.10 | Xuerian | stop calling it amd >_o |
| 14:10.15 | art3mis | never buy first gen |
| 14:10.27 | art3mis | laugh |
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| 14:10.39 | Xuerian | They just bought out ati, didn't get rid of the branding :P |
| 14:10.40 | art3mis | for all intent amnd purpose they are amd now ;P |
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| 14:11.25 | art3mis | and really all thas gonna happen is like the cpu market |
| 14:11.33 | art3mis | prices are gonna drop in video cards |
| 14:11.38 | art3mis | and everyone will be happy |
| 14:11.43 | Xuerian | And then there will be new ones |
| 14:11.57 | Xuerian | If he's going for the bleeding edge, I don't think price is much of a issue :p |
| 14:12.04 | art3mis | heh yeah |
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| 14:12.35 | kenlyric | Xuerian: going for bleeding edge in graphics cards is DUMB. |
| 14:12.38 | art3mis | i think its funny that people will spend 2-3k on a gaming machine when they dont own a car ;P |
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| 14:12.43 | Xuerian | kenlyric: Just a little bit |
| 14:12.47 | kenlyric | the drivers won't be stable for six months, and by then the price will cut in half. |
| 14:12.55 | Xuerian | kenlyric: It wasn't my idea! >_o |
| 14:13.15 | knarf- | Shoot my pitbull just broke |
| 14:13.22 | kenlyric | put it down. |
| 14:15.09 | Xuerian | It's all Chompers' fault! |
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| 14:21.53 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: now XLM counts one less than you actually have in the inventory :D |
| 14:22.05 | Xuerian | Flying buttmonkies on a stick |
| 14:22.26 | Xuerian | Bah afk, will fix later |
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| 14:22.37 | Xuerian | Thanks for the report :p |
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| 14:23.05 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
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| 14:25.36 | Fisker- | my mother |
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| 14:25.51 | art3mis | how come wow wont load on my cray!!!! |
| 14:26.00 | art3mis | and why is it so hot in here |
| 14:26.04 | kenlyric | servers are down. |
| 14:26.19 | art3mis | oh hey look at that it's tuesday |
| 14:26.27 | Kilroo | Is not. |
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| 14:26.30 | a-stray-cat | play on test instead ;O |
| 14:26.31 | Kilroo | Oh wait. |
| 14:26.41 | Kilroo | All right, you win this round. |
| 14:26.50 | a-stray-cat | who wants to help me test stuff on test ;O |
| 14:27.06 | kenlyric | art3mis: I know what a crazy is. |
| 14:27.06 | a-stray-cat | it might have helped if you'd spelled it right |
| 14:27.11 | kenlyric | I also know what a Cray is :) |
| 14:27.14 | art3mis | a cray ;P |
| 14:27.18 | kenlyric | I was making with the funny |
| 14:27.34 | art3mis | oh i caught yers ken ;) |
| 14:27.41 | a-stray-cat | curses! no volunteers. |
| 14:27.48 | a-stray-cat | ill have to appropriate a friends account |
| 14:28.24 | knarf- | ckknight did you break pitbull recently? :> |
| 14:28.30 | ckknight | do you have an error, knarf-? |
| 14:28.40 | knarf- | parsing errors |
| 14:28.46 | knarf- | amongst others |
| 14:28.48 | ckknight | so tell me |
| 14:29.00 | knarf- | 2 secs then :) |
| 14:29.01 | Kilroo | They're stealing time from my ten-day trial!!! |
| 14:29.02 | ckknight | just the first one |
| 14:29.34 | art3mis | You loot the corpse. You recieve 14 silver as credit on your ingame Horde Visa. |
| 14:30.14 | art3mis | Karl Malden would like you to retrieve a stolen purse at the Goblin Airport. |
| 14:30.35 | wobin | oh man |
| 14:30.36 | art3mis | awww no patch to dl |
| 14:30.40 | wobin | I will never tire of cat macros |
| 14:30.54 | art3mis | perv |
| 14:30.58 | knarf- | PitBull\PitBull.lua:1636: unexpected symbol near '=' |
| 14:31.06 | Hjalte | knarf-, update. |
| 14:31.10 | knarf- | I just did :> |
| 14:31.32 | knarf- | is the update on files.wowace yet? |
| 14:31.32 | Hjalte | have you checked your rev against the one on wowace.com/files? |
| 14:31.35 | art3mis | well do it again |
| 14:31.49 | art3mis | you dont honestly expect pitbull to require only 1 update do you ;P |
| 14:31.55 | knarf- | haha |
| 14:31.58 | art3mis | even at the same rev. ;) |
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| 14:36.54 | knarf- | :) |
| 14:39.49 | Hjalte | Hmm, no matter what option i set Violation to, I can't make it NOT print data locally on reset. |
| 14:40.43 | [Ammo] | clearly alpha-state addons are not for you then |
| 14:41.33 | ckknight | knarf-: I already fixed that |
| 14:41.48 | ckknight | like, an hour ago |
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| 14:41.57 | knarf- | ckknight ye was jus my updater that was slow on checking for updates :P |
| 14:44.03 | Hjalte | [Ammo], I'm simply saying what problem i have with the addon, hoping for 1. the author to take notice or 2. someone experiencing the same, but having found a solution. I like alpha-state addons. |
| 14:44.33 | sbu | ckknight: innervate :) |
| 14:48.20 | Kilroo | I like Violation. |
| 14:48.35 | Kilroo | It reports my DPS higher than SWStats does. |
| 14:48.42 | Kilroo | [cough] |
| 14:49.05 | a-stray-cat | i should make SWStats triple report my damage. |
| 14:49.07 | a-stray-cat | that'd be fun |
| 14:49.08 | harldephin | shouldn't FuBar_TrainerFu be class-dependent ? |
| 14:50.56 | harldephin | lol |
| 14:51.00 | TheKarn | best place to grind [Primal Water] |
| 14:51.01 | TheKarn | ? |
| 14:51.11 | Kalman| | TheKarn: Fishing. |
| 14:51.16 | Arrowmaster | my friend likes to fish it |
| 14:51.20 | Arrowmaster | i just goto skettis |
| 14:51.21 | TheKarn | i dont have fishing |
| 14:51.25 | Kalman| | After that, elemental plateau or Skettis. |
| 14:51.42 | Thrae | How does water become "Primal"? Is it like the "roar of the ocean"? |
| 14:51.44 | Matrix110 | If you are a Frost Mage buying of AH is the best way to get them:P |
| 14:51.56 | Kalman| | Matrix: I just found a fire mage who needed primal fires and we traded. |
| 14:52.34 | Matrix110 | well that works aswell |
| 14:52.49 | Kalman| | CandyBar practices question: If I need to make a bar of fixed time-length, but varying time left at start, is the correct method to register it at the time length and then use SetTimeLeft to set the starting time? |
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| 14:52.53 | Ordog | the lake just in front of shattrath works pretty well for water farming too |
| 14:52.57 | Ordog | never been to skettis |
| 14:53.09 | Ordog | didnt even explore that area i think |
| 14:53.16 | Kalman| | I.E. I want the bar to start with different % fills. |
| 14:53.29 | Matrix110 | well Ordog with Patch its get a bit more interesting there |
| 14:53.35 | YammYgirlcoding | "Profession recipes that had 24 hour or longer cooldowns, have had their cooldowns reduced by 1 hour. <<< true !?!? |
| 14:53.44 | Matrix110 | yes YammYgirlcoding |
| 14:53.46 | YammYgirlcoding | will I be able to transmute every hour? |
| 14:53.47 | YammYgirlcoding | now? |
| 14:53.50 | Ordog | ok thank you for the spoiler! ;P |
| 14:53.50 | Matrix110 | no |
| 14:53.53 | Matrix110 | its 23hours |
| 14:53.54 | Kalman| | YammYgirlcoding: No, their cooldowns are 23 hours, not 24. |
| 14:53.58 | YammYgirlcoding | oh |
| 14:54.08 | YammYgirlcoding | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.09 | Kalman| | So that you don't have cooldown slip from day to day. |
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| 14:54.41 | YammYgirlcoding | what's the point of reducing just 1 hour? |
| 14:54.48 | Kalman| | So that you don't have cooldown slip from day to day. |
| 14:54.52 | YammYgirlcoding | how come? |
| 14:54.55 | Arrowmaster | so you can use it at the same time every day |
| 14:54.59 | YammYgirlcoding | aaah right. |
| 14:55.09 | YammYgirlcoding | we waste some time until logging, etc, isnt it |
| 14:55.24 | YammYgirlcoding | and it happens to go ahead 1 hour every day. i see |
| 14:55.35 | YammYgirlcoding | well... smart thing :) |
| 14:56.03 | YammYgirlcoding | and the unspecialize thing? what's about? I can unlearn spellcloth and then learn mooncloth ? |
| 14:56.09 | Kalman| | Yep. |
| 14:56.17 | YammYgirlcoding | but will I have to do the quests every time? |
| 14:56.22 | Kalman| | 120g total, if I remember right; 100 to untrain, 20 to train. |
| 14:56.41 | YammYgirlcoding | what If I have unlearned 3 types, and done the 3 quests. will I have to do them again every time I unlearn ? |
| 14:56.51 | Kalman| | AFAIK no quest required for any except the first specialization. |
| 14:57.12 | YammYgirlcoding | is this cost a fixed value? |
| 14:57.49 | YammYgirlcoding | that's evil. People would craft 6 cloths in one day? at the cost of 360g? |
| 14:57.50 | Kalman| | Yeah. |
| 14:57.59 | Kalman| | Not worth it, though. |
| 14:58.08 | Kalman| | Cheaper to just AH the extra 2. |
| 14:58.12 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm |
| 14:58.36 | YammYgirlcoding | it would be worth if people increased the price very much, like asking 100g for one :) |
| 14:58.48 | Kalman| | Nobody knows the answer on the CandyBar question? :/ |
| 14:58.49 | YammYgirlcoding | that'd be a common sense to work :) |
| 14:59.13 | YammYgirlcoding | well.. at least we can dream :) |
| 14:59.25 | Kalman| | It'd need to be 180g per cloth for it to be worthwhile, unless you didn't plan to wear tailoring gear and could get by with 2 shifts of spec per 4 day cycle, in which case it only needs to hit 120g. |
| 14:59.30 | [Ammo] | Kalman|: regarding your candybar question, yes, with the most recent candybar, you can register, settimeleft, and then start the bar to start it halfway |
| 14:59.33 | sbu | ckknight: hm - any ideas why my border selection menu is empty? |
| 14:59.41 | Kalman| | [Ammo]: Thanks. :) |
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| 14:59.55 | [Ammo] | a fix for that was checked in a few days ago :) |
| 15:00.06 | Kalman| | Can't test the code right now for obvious reasons, though. :p |
| 15:00.17 | [Ammo] | what obvious reasons? |
| 15:00.22 | Kalman| | Maintenance? |
| 15:00.28 | [Ammo] | ah US |
| 15:00.30 | YammYgirlcoding | rofl that's obvious :) |
| 15:00.38 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 15:00.42 | Kalman| | Suppose non-obvious if you're EU. |
| 15:00.54 | Kalman| | I have no clue when EU maintenance is. |
| 15:01.35 | [Ammo] | it starts in 10 hours |
| 15:01.52 | [Ammo] | and ends in 18 hours approx |
| 15:01.53 | sbu | 10? not in 12h? |
| 15:02.05 | [Ammo] | I thought maintenance was 3am - 11am |
| 15:02.18 | sbu | but only on patchday? |
| 15:02.22 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 15:02.25 | [Ammo] | then it starts in 12 hours |
| 15:02.26 | [Ammo] | whatever :) |
| 15:03.33 | harldephin | hm. is there currently a Nickenyfiken ? |
| 15:07.06 | Funkeh` | not really |
| 15:07.14 | Funkeh` | we had shutdowns past 3 weeks |
| 15:07.18 | Funkeh` | were due live maintenance |
| 15:07.31 | Funkeh` | its supposes to be shutdown, live shutdown, live etc |
| 15:07.35 | Hjalte | Wow, nice that Talented is able to fill out talents by itself now :D |
| 15:08.03 | moonsorrow | ckknight: getting an error when going into the menu: global settings->colors->reputation bar |
| 15:08.55 | Reality | is rabbit around? i don't think i've ever seen him here in IRC |
| 15:09.09 | Hjalte | Reality, he's called vhaarr here. |
| 15:09.17 | Reality | great, thanks |
| 15:09.24 | Hjalte | Hmm, or only one r? don't remember. |
| 15:09.39 | Reality | apparently two, according to the menu -----> |
| 15:10.06 | vhaarr | Reality: hi |
| 15:10.15 | Hjalte | I see :) |
| 15:10.34 | Reality | hey, i had noticed on the closetgnome thread that you were looking for info about the flight form trinket |
| 15:10.44 | vhaarr | Reality: I got what I needed, thanks |
| 15:10.48 | Reality | awesome |
| 15:11.51 | Industrial | Reality: Im the best. |
| 15:11.57 | Reality | haha |
| 15:12.48 | Funkeh` | The best drama creator |
| 15:13.38 | Industrial | call it "knowing how to get answers" :P |
| 15:13.54 | evl | ckknight: very wierd, even if the frame.castBarIcon is explicitly cleared it isn't hidden with Hide() |
| 15:14.03 | sbu | hm, is magtheridon possible w/ 4 tanks? |
| 15:14.12 | sbu | (phase 1) |
| 15:14.12 | chutwig | no |
| 15:14.26 | chutwig | i wouldn't do it with any fewer than 5, and that's still asking for problems |
| 15:14.52 | sbu | with one tank taking last 2 mobs (and after 1st is down the tank takes 1) |
| 15:14.54 | sbu | hmhm |
| 15:14.55 | Reality | we do it with 5 |
| 15:15.02 | Reality | no problems at all |
| 15:15.22 | Reality | and the first two tanks are a feral in pure DPS gear and a fury war in mixed gear |
| 15:15.34 | Awaa | We have done it with 4. We have an MT tank 2&5 (kill order), when 1 is dead that tank take 5 off MT |
| 15:15.42 | Reality | that works too |
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| 15:15.48 | Reality | they don't hit very hard at first |
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| 15:23.39 | Mikk | we were going with MT tanking the first 2 last night |
| 15:23.46 | Mikk | not that we actually succeeded :> |
| 15:24.21 | YammYgirlcoding | guys, how can I see which addons need Sea as dependency? |
| 15:24.23 | sbu | hehe |
| 15:24.31 | Reality | Sea...? lolcosmos |
| 15:24.41 | YammYgirlcoding | i wonder if I can disable it |
| 15:24.43 | Kalman| | Yammy: Need it as a real dependency or just declare it? |
| 15:24.45 | [Ammo] | Mikk: you were the one making wow graphics right? |
| 15:24.52 | sbu | i dont think its worth trying.. it would be our 2nd trip there |
| 15:24.54 | [Ammo] | ~mikk |
| 15:24.56 | purl | well, mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 15:24.56 | Kalman| | If it's just declared dependency, disable it and see what addons claim Dependency Missing. |
| 15:24.56 | YammYgirlcoding | i mean needed as main dependency |
| 15:25.22 | YammYgirlcoding | you recall only for cosmos dependant? |
| 15:25.30 | Matrix110 | sbu 4 works fine Your later MT tanks 1/2 (2=misdirect), 1/2 mages CS the 2nd add while maintaining dps on 1st add, 1 rogue/shaman shocks 2nd adds Shadowbolts. |
| 15:25.46 | a-stray-cat | is there a mod for 2.1 where i can track another mod's memory usage, etc? |
| 15:25.57 | [Ammo] | performanceFu |
| 15:26.03 | a-stray-cat | thankie |
| 15:26.36 | [Ammo] | argh, gotta catch a bus or I'm stuck at the office |
| 15:26.36 | [Ammo] | ~ |
| 15:26.42 | a-stray-cat | ciao |
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| 15:26.57 | YammYgirlcoding | I guess i read on patch notes that blizz is adding mods's memory usage |
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| 15:28.32 | Lyfe | i hear they're also adding a better garbage collection timer. (or whatnot) |
| 15:28.54 | Xuerian | That's already been manually overridden by Ace2 for a while, hasn't it? |
| 15:29.08 | Lyfe | basically, going to run the garbage collector more frequently than it already does. |
| 15:29.21 | evl | How can I dump a table with acedebug? |
| 15:29.39 | Bruners | was it patch day is US today ? |
| 15:29.43 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. Anyone knows if Advanced Tradeskills Window addon is no longer working after patch? Cause blizz added some search functions, i guess It will bug the addon. Will it? |
| 15:29.52 | YammYgirlcoding | i hope its today! :) |
| 15:29.55 | Lyfe | xuerian: i don't think ace2 does it. otherwise, I think my system would have not generated so much uncollected garbage. |
| 15:30.01 | vhaarr | evl: You do it with AceConsole-2.0:PrintLiteral |
| 15:30.10 | vhaarr | Xuerian: ace2 doesn't do anything to GC |
| 15:30.17 | vhaarr | Xuerian: PerformanceFu does |
| 15:30.19 | Kalman| | Bruners: Doesn't seem to be today, just normal maintenance, not extended. |
| 15:30.28 | Xuerian | vhaarr: Well then, my bad :p |
| 15:30.32 | YammYgirlcoding | no? aaaaawwnn :( |
| 15:30.44 | Xuerian | Lyfe: There you go. |
| 15:30.51 | YammYgirlcoding | but the downloader already got the patch file :( I expected to be todya |
| 15:31.07 | Kalman| | Why? TBC preloaded for weeks. They're just getting the art assets out. |
| 15:31.20 | Kalman| | There was a PTR patch yesterday, no reason to think they'd push to live today. |
| 15:31.23 | YammYgirlcoding | mine downloaded this week |
| 15:31.49 | YammYgirlcoding | you mean they added a patch on test server yesterday? |
| 15:31.55 | Kalman| | Yes. |
| 15:31.57 | YammYgirlcoding | oh |
| 15:32.09 | Matrix110 | well the patch is basically just itemchanges and some little tuning afaik |
| 15:32.34 | Kalman| | Yeah, but some of the tuning is raid tuning and they're going to want testing of that. |
| 15:32.34 | YammYgirlcoding | anyone knows why the 'live' mantainance didn't make it? |
| 15:32.36 | Lyfe | yeah, but they're still be pretty conservative about patching the live realms. |
| 15:33.03 | a-stray-cat | can i filter the mods that performancefu tracks? |
| 15:33.11 | vhaarr | a-stray-cat: no |
| 15:33.24 | vhaarr | it's supposed to be a simple mem/cpu tracker |
| 15:33.36 | vhaarr | if you want a more advanced one, I know jerry made some fubar plugin |
| 15:33.47 | a-stray-cat | i see |
| 15:33.47 | YammYgirlcoding | did they reported why the live mantainance didn't continue? remember? that week they didn't put servers down to do their mantainance |
| 15:34.14 | Kalman| | They do them sometimes still. |
| 15:34.19 | Kalman| | A week or two ago was live maint. |
| 15:34.54 | YammYgirlcoding | is there any technical issue to keep the live mantainance every week? |
| 15:35.03 | YammYgirlcoding | did they say anything about it? |
| 15:35.29 | YammYgirlcoding | what they do on it by the way? backup hard disks of all servers? |
| 15:35.39 | Matrix110 | YammYgirlcoding did you read the LiveMaintanence threads? |
| 15:35.46 | Matrix110 | i think you didnt:P |
| 15:35.46 | YammYgirlcoding | oh there is it one? :) |
| 15:35.56 | Matrix110 | we dont have Maintanance every week anymore since like 1 or 2 months |
| 15:36.04 | YammYgirlcoding | we who? |
| 15:36.09 | Matrix110 | US/EU |
| 15:36.16 | YammYgirlcoding | here i still have to wait few hours to log on tuesday |
| 15:36.29 | YammYgirlcoding | right now the servers are off |
| 15:36.32 | Matrix110 | well they still need to do maintanances |
| 15:36.33 | YammYgirlcoding | so no live mant for me :( |
| 15:37.18 | Lyfe | US servers are down for their 6-hour maintenance period. (currently) |
| 15:37.18 | Reality | it's on a rotating schedule yamm |
| 15:37.18 | Matrix110 | but there were already like 3 or 4 weeks without maintenance iirc |
| 15:37.18 | YammYgirlcoding | how come? |
| 15:37.18 | Reality | three weeks i think, first week it's normal main and servers are down |
| 15:37.18 | Reality | second it's live maint |
| 15:37.29 | Matrix110 | well the servers wont run properly if you dont tidy them up sometime:P |
| 15:37.32 | Reality | third is rolling restarts or something AFAIK |
| 15:37.35 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm i haven't noticed. Maybe cause I didn't try to log on tuesdays mornings yet :) |
| 15:38.01 | Reality | there's a big thread about it in the realm status forums, or there was |
| 15:38.27 | evl | How can frame.castBarIcon:Hide();frame:castbarIcon:IsVisible() return false but still be visible? |
| 15:38.36 | YammYgirlcoding | what they do when servers are down? incremental backups of database? full hard disk copys? there is no raid 0? high availability servers? |
| 15:38.37 | evl | Is there something else needed to be done about textures? |
| 15:39.30 | Reality | yamm, we're not bliz employees, lol |
| 15:39.50 | Lyfe | i'd be very suprised if they used raid0, actually. |
| 15:40.14 | YammYgirlcoding | raid0 is cool! they do have 'our' money to that! we deserve it! :D |
| 15:40.29 | Lyfe | yeah, but harddrives fail. |
| 15:40.45 | Matrix110 | iam pretty sure they are using Raid0 for the important servers and still create Backups |
| 15:40.45 | YammYgirlcoding | but not both at same time i guess :) raid0 would be a safety , no? |
| 15:40.52 | Lyfe | raid0 has no safety |
| 15:41.05 | YammYgirlcoding | no? if one fails, the other won't take over the place? |
| 15:41.10 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 15:41.16 | Arrowmaster | thats raid1 |
| 15:41.17 | YammYgirlcoding | so what's raid0 for? |
| 15:41.20 | chutwig | losing data |
| 15:41.24 | Lyfe | no, raid0 is striping, if you lose any drives in a raid0, the whole raid is worthless. |
| 15:41.24 | Arrowmaster | speed |
| 15:41.28 | Matrix110 | Raid0="double" speed |
| 15:41.37 | Lyfe | raid1 is mirroring. |
| 15:41.40 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: You're thinking of RAID1, mirroring. RAID0 is striping, where multiple HDDs are put together to form one logical HDD for improved speed. |
| 15:41.40 | YammYgirlcoding | ah so I misunderstood. I meant raid1 :) do they have raid1? :) |
| 15:41.51 | Matrix110 | Prolly |
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| 15:41.51 | CIA-23 | PitBull |
| 15:41.51 | CIA-23 | - Fixed issues where castBarIcon was not hidden when frame was updated without previously being cleared. This is now accomplished with SetTexture(nil) rather than Hide() |
| 15:41.51 | Lyfe | more likely, they use raid5. |
| 15:42.04 | Arrowmaster | altough newer raid1's can have read speeds close to raid0 |
| 15:42.05 | Lyfe | and a really good controller card. |
| 15:42.07 | evl | Would be great if people could test this patch |
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| 15:42.10 | evl | It's been very shaky :) |
| 15:42.44 | Matrix110 | Well atleast the important DB HDDs are mirrored for sure, about the zone servers iam not that sure they are easily replaceable not really a need for mirroring there |
| 15:43.52 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Read speeds, but not write. Overall RAID1 speeds are about equal to using a single HDD. |
| 15:44.06 | chutwig | RAID 1 is about single-HDD speed for writing, faster for reading |
| 15:44.14 | chutwig | depends on how smart your controller is |
| 15:44.46 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: yes i know |
| 15:44.49 | Mikk | if you're doing software raid1 it's slower for writing ofc |
| 15:45.04 | Lyfe | hence, raid5. performance maxes out at n-1 drives, but only if the controller card is really really good.. which means you get somewhere between 1 and n-1 performance for a write or read. |
| 15:45.32 | Thrae | chutwig: RAID1 can't be as fast as a single HDD for writing, there's at least a tiny bottleneck for even a hardware controller. Even if it's only 0.00001 nanosecond. Like you said, it depends on the quality of the controller. |
| 15:45.47 | chutwig | raid 5 is always going to have a performance penalty because of the parity calculations, but it's not a huge bottleneck in typical situations |
| 15:45.58 | Matrix110 | but external Backups >all anyway |
| 15:46.12 | Arrowmaster | offsite external backups |
| 15:46.35 | Matrix110 | If all HDDs get eaten by a false working PSU or a voltage peak the best raid doesnt help^^ |
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| 15:46.59 | Thrae | Anyway, stuff like RAID0, RAID1, RAID5, RAID10, etc. should be reserved for commericial or professional interests. Weekly compressed images w/ incremental backups of your important data are best for most people. |
| 15:47.00 | Sonsora | hey guys, i have a question about SCT |
| 15:47.22 | Matrix110 | and if Blizzard would loose the data of a DB server they would get ALOT of trouble:P |
| 15:47.30 | Lyfe | chutwig: actually, it is a pretty nasty bottleneck to write to raid5. |
| 15:47.48 | chutwig | Lyfe: i said "in typical situations" |
| 15:47.57 | Sonsora | When i get the buff "shadow trance" (talent nightfall) my SCT comes with a small message "nightfall", how can i make it bigger so i can see it easier, i've tried a lot of things, but didn't work :/ |
| 15:48.07 | Arrowmaster | you completely forgot raid6 |
| 15:48.13 | chutwig | i wouldn't want to guarantee being able to write to one at 150 mb/sec |
| 15:48.28 | Thrae | RAID doesn't save against partition corruption, probably the most common problem with HDDs. Even a bad sector can cause a partition to be written improperly, which is then mirrored to both RAID drives. |
| 15:48.55 | chutwig | people tend to learn pretty quickly what RAID will and won't save you from after they lose a filesystem to corruption or accidentally delete a ton of their files |
| 15:49.04 | Lyfe | chutwig: it would be nice, but no. fastest i've seen for a small array was 4 drives writing at 50mB/s. |
| 15:49.13 | chutwig | and then they learn the virtues of backups |
| 15:49.18 | Mikk | i've actually never heard of raid5 saving anyone o.O |
| 15:49.20 | Thrae | I'm also talking NTFS (Windows NT/2000/2003/XP/Vista) here. Big servers usually use something more robust, or serious tweaks to NTFS. |
| 15:49.51 | Arrowmaster | ive got 3x 250gb drives sitting here with whats believed to be partition corruption |
| 15:49.51 | chutwig | veritasssss |
| 15:49.51 | Lyfe | mikk: is that because they tend to lose more than one drive at once? :) |
| 15:49.51 | chutwig | i'm waiting for my new SAN equipment to come in |
| 15:49.51 | chutwig | yay hooray |
| 15:50.09 | Fisker- | you're telling me NTFS ain't good enough for you? |
| 15:50.18 | Mikk | Lyfe: well.. no, i've heard of cases where one drive is reported as failed, so they swap it out, and then the recreation totally trashes everything =P |
| 15:50.31 | chutwig | if the parity data was incorrect |
| 15:50.33 | Lyfe | ahh, yeah. |
| 15:50.33 | Arrowmaster | i need to setup a new fileserver sometime soon with a nice raid array |
| 15:50.47 | Thrae | Lyfe: Also one drive goes bad, but SMART and the RAID controller don't detect it, so the partition becomes corrupt. |
| 15:50.48 | Sonsora | arrowmaster i've pm'ed you |
| 15:50.55 | chutwig | every once in a while i run rebuilds by hand to have my arrays recalculate their parity data |
| 15:51.15 | Lyfe | i've actualy had a raid5 array report a disk as bad, as well as the 2 replacements for that disk.. turned out it was the controller inestead. |
| 15:51.15 | Arrowmaster | Sonsora: your not registered on freenode, you cant send pms |
| 15:51.20 | Sonsora | damn |
| 15:51.36 | chutwig | i have 2 finicky DAS arrays right now that the SAN's going to replace |
| 15:51.38 | Saint-N | i love mwave |
| 15:51.38 | chutwig | i can't wait to get rid of them |
| 15:51.44 | Industrial | Anyone good with secure frames? |
| 15:51.51 | Saint-N | orders mem last night around 4pm and overnighted and it got here before 10am |
| 15:51.56 | Industrial | wtb stances on my bar :< http://pastey.net/31043 |
| 15:52.14 | Thrae | The ONLY reason you should use RAID mirroring is when you NEED a constant backup. You should use it in conjuction with a periodic backup. |
| 15:52.18 | Sonsora | well then i try ask here again: how can i make the message "nighfall" bigger in SCT (i'm a lock) i thought i have tried everything, but it didn't work |
| 15:52.24 | Lyfe | at some point, i need to learn more about SANs.. |
| 15:52.45 | chutwig | they cost a lot |
| 15:53.29 | Lyfe | this i know. but they're supposed to be able to scale really well, if i'm not mistaken. |
| 15:53.53 | chutwig | they're nice |
| 15:53.53 | Arrowmaster | Sonsora: youll have to create a custom event in sct_event_config.lua for it |
| 15:54.02 | Sonsora | to make it bigger ? |
| 15:54.03 | Sonsora | damnit |
| 15:54.10 | Sonsora | cos it is showen already |
| 15:54.14 | Sonsora | *shown |
| 15:54.14 | chutwig | i'm going to format mine all nicely with GFS and set up proper file server clustering |
| 15:54.19 | Xuerian | As part of another event |
| 15:54.30 | Lyfe | course, zfs might put that all to shame, but anyway. course, zfs is particular to a single server, so .. might be a different problem set. |
| 15:54.42 | chutwig | can't really compare a filesystem to hardware |
| 15:54.42 | Arrowmaster | Sonsora: actually if you just want to make the font size bigger im not sure how to do that |
| 15:54.54 | Sonsora | yeah thats what i want to do :D |
| 15:54.57 | Thrae | chutwig: What's so important you need clustering? |
| 15:55.03 | Sonsora | and i tried, but the shit didn't work ! :( |
| 15:55.13 | Xuerian | Sonsora: use msbt. |
| 15:55.14 | chutwig | Thrae: 120 whiny people whose data i am responsible for |
| 15:55.17 | Sonsora | maybe addon bugged |
| 15:55.17 | Lyfe | well, you still have to get data onto and off of the san.. much like you may for a single big file server. :P |
| 15:55.18 | Sonsora | for me |
| 15:55.23 | Thrae | I'm fine with triple backups. Linux can be reinstalled in like 30 minutes. |
| 15:55.41 | Thrae | chutwig: Oh, yeah, I thought you were talking about for your home. |
| 15:55.41 | chutwig | hell no |
| 15:55.58 | Thrae | Hey, I know a good number of people that do stuff like that in their home ;) |
| 15:56.10 | sbu | [AFK:IsEqual("AFK")?Text(A)] <-- is there a better way doing this? (because its not working :p) |
| 15:56.13 | Arrowmaster | i need a 2tb raid in my home |
| 15:56.22 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: No you don't ;) |
| 15:56.40 | Thrae | Speaking of home projects, I'm sad I didn't get the chance to use Freevo, it looks cool. |
| 15:56.41 | Arrowmaster | i keep filling up my 1tb of non raid drives then they get messed up and i have to recover data from them |
| 15:56.55 | chutwig | warez much? |
| 15:56.58 | Lyfe | 1tb disks are just about here.. and 750's aren't that tiny, really. |
| 15:57.14 | chutwig | time to find lunch! |
| 15:57.17 | Arrowmaster | i may or may not have over half a tb of tv shows..... |
| 15:58.05 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: You're better off doing periodic backups. I'm sure you can withstand losing one day's worth of pr0nwarez ;) |
| 15:58.50 | Arrowmaster | periodic backups onto what |
| 15:59.05 | Kaydeethree | $ du -hs pub/ |
| 15:59.05 | Kaydeethree | 461G pub/ |
| 15:59.10 | Thrae | Another thing I just remembered about RAID mirroring -- since all drives are being written to at once, both drives have the same probability to fail as they are being used concurrently. |
| 15:59.15 | Kaydeethree | ^scary |
| 15:59.32 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Well if you're going to buy another 1TB of space, I'm saying don't bother with RAID'ing it... |
| 15:59.59 | Kaydeethree | meh, I've lost too much data to not have stuff on at the least a raid5 setup |
| 16:00.37 | Thrae | RAID5 is fine if you replace your HDDs about once every 5 years. Unlike me, I'm a cheapass and just use the HDDs until they die. |
| 16:00.45 | Lyfe | raid5's not any better, you write about the same amount of data to all drives in the raid5. |
| 16:01.06 | Lyfe | raid3 is a bit of a killer of the single parity block drive. |
| 16:01.14 | Kaydeethree | yes, but as long as I don't lose 2 drives at the same time I'm fine |
| 16:01.42 | Arrowmaster | thats what raid6 is for |
| 16:02.09 | Thrae | Kaydeethree: Well, I'm looking at cost vs gain of RAID5 vs periodic backups. |
| 16:02.11 | sbu | ckknight: help :) |
| 16:02.34 | Kaydeethree | but periodic backups on to what |
| 16:02.44 | Arrowmaster | dvd doesnt really cut it |
| 16:03.16 | Arrowmaster | and optical media doesnt last forever |
| 16:03.19 | Thrae | Kaydeethree: Well, the cost also factors in partition corruption issues that the RAID5 doesn't help. |
| 16:04.06 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: DVDs last a hell of a lot longer then a HDD, both kept in best condition. But copying 400 DVDs to keep 'em fresh is a pain in the ass. |
| 16:04.28 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: The maximum lifespan of a DVD in best conditions is ~25 years. |
| 16:04.40 | Arrowmaster | well an hdd kept in 'best conditions' is without power |
| 16:05.05 | Thrae | Even HDDs without power don't last as long as a DVD. |
| 16:05.27 | Matrix110 | Thrae DVDs dont last that long if you dont buy good ones, the cheap ones arent useable after 5years |
| 16:05.56 | Arrowmaster | i ordered my dvdr's directly from japan =D |
| 16:05.56 | Thrae | Matrix110: Yeah, but the price per GB for the "good ones" is still less then HDDs ATM |
| 16:06.12 | Matrix110 | well ofcourse a HDD is still a bit different than a HDD:P |
| 16:06.16 | Matrix110 | *DVD |
| 16:06.25 | Lyfe | y'know what lasts longer? tape, kept in an old salt mine. |
| 16:06.44 | Tornhoof | paper :) |
| 16:06.46 | Matrix110 | HDD isnt really made for just storing data that isnt accessed imho |
| 16:07.00 | Tornhoof | hdds still last longer than dvd ;) |
| 16:07.04 | Lyfe | course, it must be recognized, that most of us aren't really interested in paying for the storage of data in old salt mines. :) |
| 16:07.11 | Thrae | I personally print out the binary on sheets of paper. You'd be surprised how long it lasts! |
| 16:07.20 | Thrae | 1TB takes up the entire salt mine. |
| 16:07.30 | Lyfe | Thrae: i'd hate to read it back in when the drive fails :) |
| 16:07.34 | Tornhoof | you should engrave it into some copper plate |
| 16:07.36 | sbu | ckknight: why does [[AFK:Trunc(1)]:Append([DND:Trunc(1)]):Append([PvP:Trunc(1)]):Angle] show <>? it should be just blank? |
| 16:07.55 | Thrae | Of course, some of the paper might burn up, since the mine has to go down to the molten core of the earth for extra room... |
| 16:08.21 | Bruners | ckknight: still not showing all buffs |
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| 16:14.58 | RLD_osx | do waterfall and niagara provide the sam functionality? |
| 16:15.03 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WAU 1.7-final http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization |
| 16:15.08 | RLD_osx | sam = same |
| 16:15.24 | Matrix110 | no |
| 16:15.27 | Matrix110 | waterfall=libary |
| 16:15.31 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 16:15.37 | Matrix110 | Niagara=Deuce Commander for Waterfall options |
| 16:15.53 | Matrix110 | its like comparing Dewdrop with Deuce Commander |
| 16:16.14 | Kaelten | niagara uses waterfall to build the options screens |
| 16:16.46 | RLD_osx | was wondering because Prat provides waterfall and I already use niagara. do I need both? |
| 16:17.00 | Matrix110 | well niagare provides it for mods that dont have waterfall options |
| 16:17.05 | Kaelten | only one copy will stay in memory |
| 16:20.01 | RLD_osx | guess 2.1 will tell me how much memory 142 addons is costing me. lol |
| 16:21.08 | Antiarc|Work | RLD_osx: You can already tell with PerformanceFu or similar |
| 16:21.11 | Antiarc|Work | Just not individually. |
| 16:22.25 | RLD_osx | haven't liked any of the interfaces the fu addons have used so removed them and not d/l any more. |
| 16:22.58 | Xuerian | *Fu addons usually aren't about pretty interfaces.. |
| 16:23.04 | Xuerian | more of doing what they're actually supposed to do |
| 16:23.42 | RLD_osx | saw a small script somewhere that would tell me but don't remember where now |
| 16:24.40 | RLD_osx | oh well... thanks for the info... past time for bed. graveyard sucks sometimes. :) |
| 16:25.28 | Iceroth | is there some addon to monitor the traffic in that addon channel? |
| 16:25.44 | Xuerian | There's a few addons in the svn that do it |
| 16:25.55 | Xuerian | DevTools does too, iirc |
| 16:26.17 | vhaarr | ViewAddonMessage on the svn |
| 16:26.22 | Iceroth | ty |
| 16:26.31 | Iceroth | i'm experiencing the strangest disconnects |
| 16:26.52 | Tornhoof | like after portal using? |
| 16:26.57 | vhaarr | it's very simple, it just prints all the addon channel communication in chatframe3 |
| 16:27.10 | Iceroth | after zoning yeah |
| 16:27.18 | Tornhoof | i had that too |
| 16:27.32 | Tornhoof | disappeared after a few days though |
| 16:27.34 | Iceroth | and once i was flying in those halaa bomb birds, couldn't log back in before i disabled my addons, got immediate disconnect every time |
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| 16:31.07 | vhaarr | ag`: dead mobs in instances on PTR say "Offline" instead of "Dead" |
| 16:31.11 | vhaarr | ag`: http://www.nihilum.eu/image/2157/ for example |
| 16:31.37 | chutwig | the mobs are all secretly being played by GMs :ninja: |
| 16:31.42 | Tornhoof | :D |
| 16:31.43 | vhaarr | lol |
| 16:31.51 | Tornhoof | chutwig was faster, damn |
| 16:32.03 | chutwig | that would be fun to take control of trash in SSC and wipe raids repeatedly |
| 16:37.32 | Roartindon | "you thought you killed that bog lord? No, the GM was just Feign Deathed!" |
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| 16:47.24 | Antiarc|Work | I would love to play raid mobs |
| 16:47.38 | Antiarc|Work | Because I would randomly aggro healers just to make the raid crap its pants |
| 16:47.53 | moonsorrow | hm.. violation doesn't properly record my healing, and shadowpriests are having way too much. should it actually work? |
| 16:48.16 | moonsorrow | I know that there was a switch to the old parserlib |
| 16:50.38 | Fisker- | nice |
| 16:50.50 | Fisker- | they are putting in the "cannot whisper unless on friends list"-thingy in 2.1 |
| 16:51.04 | dodgizzla | "ignore"? :D |
| 16:51.05 | kenlyric | Fisker-: huh? |
| 16:51.19 | kenlyric | citation, please. |
| 16:51.24 | kenlyric | or I start stabbing. |
| 16:51.35 | Fisker- | Trial accounts can no longer whisper persons without them being on the friends list/or without the person having whispered them first |
| 16:51.44 | Bruners | Fisker-: isnt it just large chunks of text that cant be sent? |
| 16:51.47 | kenlyric | oh, trial accounts. |
| 16:51.50 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=286830818&sid=1 |
| 16:51.51 | Bruners | ahh |
| 16:51.52 | kenlyric | that's cool. |
| 16:51.55 | Fisker- | last post |
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| 16:52.16 | vhaarr | moonsorrow: overhealing shouldn't be counted any more |
| 16:52.21 | Xuerian | bah |
| 16:52.24 | Xuerian | They should just throttle it |
| 16:52.42 | moonsorrow | I'm not talking about overhealing |
| 16:52.48 | kenlyric | trial accounts don't need to whisper random people. |
| 16:52.50 | Fisker- | i believe this is awesome |
| 16:53.04 | Xuerian | kenlyric: I do. I have no reason to pay for a steady account, and my friends don't get on IM |
| 16:53.08 | Xuerian | And they're 70's |
| 16:53.19 | Xuerian | So how the hell am I supposed to tell them who I am and get a guild invite? =O |
| 16:53.43 | dodgizzla | An ancient messaging tool that is able to reach people far away |
| 16:53.44 | dodgizzla | Let's see |
| 16:53.50 | dodgizzla | I think it's called "the phone" |
| 16:53.52 | dodgizzla | *runs* |
| 16:53.57 | Xuerian | Don't have the phone number, you nubins |
| 16:54.09 | Xuerian | Plus calls to other continents are, like, expensive |
| 16:54.14 | dodgizzla | Skype :p |
| 16:54.18 | Xuerian | too lazy |
| 16:54.22 | Antiarc|Work | Xuerian: The assumption is that if you invite a friend, you have some means of communicating with them. |
| 16:54.22 | Punkie` | !nymbia |
| 16:54.24 | Bruners | buy wow then |
| 16:54.25 | Punkie` | damn |
| 16:54.29 | Punkie` | !seen nymbia |
| 16:54.29 | Diao | nymbia!n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net was last seen 8 hr 16 min 41 s ago on #wowace |
| 16:54.40 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: Trials are no longer invitation based or credit-card attached |
| 16:55.04 | Antiarc|Work | Xuerian: But...if you want an invite from a friend, you probably have the means to talk to that friend outside of WoW |
| 16:55.08 | Antiarc|Work | Otherwise, how are they your friend? |
| 16:55.28 | dodgizzla | Play buddy :o |
| 16:55.30 | kenlyric | his dumbass friends apparently don't do anything on the internet but WoW |
| 16:55.44 | Xuerian | Yeah, kenlyric is pretty much right... |
| 16:55.45 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 16:55.47 | kenlyric | other than that, it's all smoke signals. |
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| 16:56.11 | Antiarc|Work | If they don't do anything on the internet but WoW and you have only trial accounts how do you talk to them? |
| 16:56.17 | Xuerian | ah well, I'm just bitching anyway. I'm sortof exploiting the whole trial account system anyway |
| 16:56.35 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: I played wow for over a year |
| 16:56.35 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:56.40 | Fisker- | you should pay for it! |
| 16:56.44 | Fisker- | so youc an code some of them addons |
| 16:56.51 | Xuerian | Fisker-: I DO code them addons |
| 16:57.07 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:57.12 | chutwig | hey |
| 16:57.13 | chutwig | http://niko.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/2b/2baf1945a39d0ca37ab194f423dd44c17224d6d9.jpg |
| 16:57.16 | Fisker- | but it's easier to do without having to use trial accounts :D |
| 16:57.16 | chutwig | let the speculation run rampant! |
| 16:57.28 | Fisker- | aprils fool joke 40 years ago chuckg |
| 16:57.29 | Fisker- | chutwig |
| 16:57.34 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 16:57.35 | Antiarc|Work | Xuerian: Find the nearest person, ask them to whisper a specific person telling them who you are? :P |
| 16:57.35 | Fisker- | 100 years ago actually |
| 16:57.40 | kenlyric | so, I'm trying out EQ2 trial, and there are some really simple things in it that I can't figure out why WoW didn't do. |
| 16:57.44 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: hey, that's not a bad idea |
| 16:57.44 | Xuerian | rofl |
| 16:57.58 | kenlyric | like, unlockable ui frames. And automatic spell learning. And combat music. |
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| 16:58.27 | Xuerian | I'd feel bad for doing it, but all I do is sit in westfall and code anyway <.< |
| 16:58.43 | chutwig | Fisker-: you're not supposed to reveal the joke, moron |
| 17:00.33 | Fisker- | of course i am |
| 17:00.52 | Fisker- | it's so old that either people would know or they're too stupid to read me revealing it anyways |
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| 17:07.02 | NeoTron | so I thought a lot of the spam comes not from trial accounts but from hacked real accounts |
| 17:07.20 | Fisker- | nope |
| 17:07.28 | Fisker- | but that will be the main source eventually |
| 17:07.44 | Fisker- | Bibi`ouF !!!!! |
| 17:08.03 | NeoTron | ah well |
| 17:08.12 | NeoTron | with SpamSentry I have no real issues anymore |
| 17:08.18 | NeoTron | plus I even got to do a GM survey |
| 17:08.27 | NeoTron | which is kind of funny when all you get is an automated reply :) |
| 17:08.52 | Punkie` | Tbh, I done a SS report, got no reply, ticket closed and then got a survey |
| 17:08.55 | Punkie` | wtf :p |
| 17:09.16 | Fisker- | same here :D |
| 17:09.35 | NeoTron | a couple of times I got an RP gm rumbling in as an earthquake |
| 17:09.38 | NeoTron | those are amusing |
| 17:09.47 | NeoTron | but most of the time just a reply (and ironically always a mail too) |
| 17:09.51 | Punkie` | Anywho's I guess it's right to say the new consumables from TBC aren't in PT3? |
| 17:10.10 | Punkie` | Because Consumable.Potion.Buff.Stat.Agility definately doesn't have Elixir of Major Agility |
| 17:10.11 | Bibi`ouF | Fisker- ? |
| 17:11.23 | sbu | ckknight: uh,m |
| 17:11.40 | sbu | http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/5457/pbraidv2sfhv6.png <-- something is wrong with warri in grp 2 :p |
| 17:12.11 | kergoth | NeoTron: those mails are getting annoying. when you submit a report with the 'no reply needed' thing, you -mean- no reply needed, not fill my mailbox with crap |
| 17:12.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:12.26 | Punkie` | Go fix it then, sbu! |
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| 17:12.54 | NeoTron | kergoth: indeed |
| 17:12.56 | NeoTron | SPAMMERS |
| 17:12.57 | Fisker- | Bibi`ouF :( |
| 17:13.00 | Fisker- | Someone told me |
| 17:13.02 | NeoTron | omg report Blizzard for spammin |
| 17:13.04 | Fisker- | "Worldofraids is down" |
| 17:13.07 | Fisker- | and i was liek |
| 17:13.13 | Fisker- | "WTF mmo-champion.com faggot" |
| 17:13.18 | Fisker- | do i get any money now? |
| 17:13.50 | NeoTron | speaking of unrelated news, by switching cloak (to moroes from prince one), I now get over 1000 shadow dmg unbuffed. :P |
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| 17:14.01 | sbu | Punkie`: go touch yourself :/ |
| 17:14.06 | Fisker- | those actually look pretty awesome sbu :o |
| 17:14.13 | kergoth | i wish i could move that damn ticket frame when submitting a report |
| 17:14.20 | kergoth | sits right on top of my nquestlog and loottracker |
| 17:14.41 | sbu | Fisker-: trying to make some sRF replacement with pitbull raid stuff |
| 17:14.49 | Saroz | sbu, copycat! |
| 17:14.59 | sbu | Saroz: oh... :o |
| 17:15.08 | Kaelten | hey guys I just killed trac's repo browser |
| 17:15.15 | Gagorian | NeoTron: you still fail! |
| 17:15.35 | Kaelten | I'm going to update to the new version and reenable it soon, but for now we think its causing the server problems |
| 17:15.40 | Punkie` | zomg, Bibi`ouF = mmo-champion dude? |
| 17:15.44 | NeoTron | Gagorian: lies! |
| 17:15.44 | Punkie` | can I touch him? |
| 17:15.49 | Fisker- | no |
| 17:15.51 | Fisker- | only i can touch him |
| 17:16.13 | NeoTron | although when using some crap blue gear (that drops shadow dmg by quite a lot) I can get 16.1% spell hit |
| 17:16.35 | NeoTron | once I get my spellstrike hood (last piece to craft!) and 2.1 spell hit gems, I'll probably be able to make it without using blues |
| 17:16.52 | evl | NeoTron: warlock? |
| 17:16.59 | NeoTron | yep |
| 17:17.27 | NeoTron | my goal is to get rid of suppression |
| 17:17.32 | NeoTron | and I'm not too far away |
| 17:17.41 | NeoTron | wihtout any major sacrifice in spell dmg |
| 17:18.15 | NeoTron | but it's sort of really hard to estimate which gear is the better dps in spell hit vs spell dmg |
| 17:21.57 | Fisker- | anyone know how i can make an item link print to chatframe based on the real itemlink |
| 17:22.00 | Fisker- | i mean the text one |
| 17:22.05 | Fisker- | |rand lots of stuff here| |
| 17:22.43 | Punkie` | Hows Grid in 2.1 btw (performance wise) |
| 17:22.46 | Laric | your cray is too slow :P |
| 17:23.00 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Hence you need two sets of gear, one for mobs under level 73 and one for bosses |
| 17:23.18 | gnorlish | yar |
| 17:23.23 | Xuerian | Fisker-: GetItemInfo returns a link as one of it's values |
| 17:23.37 | Fisker- | i don't know addon'ing :( |
| 17:23.44 | Fisker- | I just know i had a macro for crafting itemlinks |
| 17:24.14 | Xuerian | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php/World_of_Warcraft_API#Item_Functions |
| 17:24.38 | Xuerian | select(2, GetItemInfo("yourstring")) |
| 17:24.52 | kenlyric | for a dotting warlock, (or shadow priest) I tend to lean towards damage over hit. You can always recast a dot, but you can't make it do any more damage. |
| 17:26.03 | Xuerian | Fisker-: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo is your friend |
| 17:26.23 | gnorlish | the spriests and loks in my guild haven't even had to try to get max +hit |
| 17:26.28 | gnorlish | it just happens as they gear up |
| 17:26.36 | gnorlish | most are 2 or 3/5 in their +hit talent |
| 17:27.08 | Fisker- | still don't help me to craft an item link |
| 17:27.15 | Fisker- | as i already know the item format |
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| 17:28.52 | Fisker- | someone had a script that automatically added an item as a clickable link(if you made the item yourself) |
| 17:28.52 | Fisker- | to the chatframe |
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| 17:32.23 | NeoTron | Gagorian: well I do have that yes |
| 17:32.34 | NeoTron | although I think I will gladly give up, for example. moroes cloak |
| 17:32.49 | NeoTron | it's not worth having it over the prince cloak with just 6 moer spelldmg.. |
| 17:33.05 | Gagorian | moroes cloak is horrible, my level 60 one is better -_- |
| 17:33.16 | NeoTron | hardly |
| 17:33.41 | NeoTron | and even a dotting warlock does like half their damage using shadow bolts |
| 17:33.48 | NeoTron | so having spell hit is still a good idea |
| 17:35.55 | Wogroipl | so, I update my addons, and now I seem to have some kind of combatlog in the middle of my screen ^^ |
| 17:35.56 | Wogroipl | no idea which addon it belongs to |
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| 17:35.56 | Gagorian | Yar, spell hit is good up until cap |
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| 17:37.17 | Mikk | Wogroipl: were you hoping that someone would guess for you when we don't even know what you have installed? |
| 17:37.38 | Wogroipl | :) |
| 17:37.54 | Wogroipl | nah, I just can't seem to move it at all |
| 17:38.10 | Wogroipl | I can close it, but maybe I like it |
| 17:38.13 | Gngsk | /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 17:38.26 | Gngsk | put your mouse over it and run that |
| 17:38.33 | Gngsk | if you get WorldFrame, try putting your cursor somewhere else |
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| 17:39.31 | Wogroipl | O.o thanks Gngsk |
| 17:39.44 | Wogroipl | it belongs to SW_Stats |
| 17:41.43 | Gagorian | Is the SVN a bit slow for anyone else? |
| 17:41.59 | Wogroipl | it was for me at times, but in the end it was okay |
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| 17:43.06 | NeoTron | I'm tempted to pick up felguard spec again just for fun |
| 17:43.10 | NeoTron | see how it works out with my new gear |
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| 17:43.40 | Reality | Gagorian: yes |
| 17:43.48 | Reality | it and the website are being sluggish for me atm |
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| 17:53.43 | Seerah_ | anyone know what's up with the forums today? |
| 17:53.55 | ckknight | sbu: ping |
| 17:53.57 | Xuerian | Patch day. Expectation of 2.1. |
| 17:54.13 | Kaelten | I tried to disable part of trac earlier and it didn't work |
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| 17:54.23 | Fisker- | not patch day :o |
| 17:54.26 | trh | hello doods |
| 17:54.29 | Seerah_ | the wowace site isn't loading either now |
| 17:54.39 | nymbia | Xuerian: naw, it's a server problem, been happening for a couple weeks |
| 17:54.48 | ckknight | why does everyone think it's patch day? |
| 17:54.50 | Xuerian | nymbia: But that would be sensible :( |
| 17:54.50 | Seerah_ | yeah, I was having timeout issues last night too |
| 17:55.01 | trh | ckknight: prolly because wowace.com is down ;) |
| 17:55.05 | Seerah_ | haha |
| 17:55.12 | Kaelten | I'm not sure whats been causing the server to have so many issues just recently |
| 17:55.17 | nymbia | Kaelten: pasta said he thought it was either mod_python or the php cache making apache swap |
| 17:55.25 | Seerah_ | people keep looking at me crazy when I tell them they're wrong and there won't be a patch |
| 17:55.29 | Xuerian | For the record, I meant "Maintenance day" |
| 17:55.39 | kenlyric | Seerah_: you know a lot of really dumb people? |
| 17:55.44 | Gagorian | Any German or French available to help localize DrDamage? |
| 17:56.00 | Seerah_ | kenlyric: maybe.... ;) |
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| 17:56.07 | kenlyric | you know that one of the primary foundations of human logic is that one expects patterns to repeat. |
| 17:56.22 | kenlyric | It's natural to assume, without other evidence, that the sun will rise tomorrow. |
| 17:56.22 | Seerah_ | it's all because of the background downloader |
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| 17:56.47 | NeoTron | there are people that expected today to be patch day? |
| 17:56.53 | kenlyric | Seerah_: so remind them that since 1.7 (at least) no major patch has come out without extended maintenance. |
| 17:56.59 | NeoTron | when yesterday saw a PTR patch and PTR isn't yet fully gear upgraded? |
| 17:56.59 | NeoTron | heh |
| 17:57.00 | Kilroo | Shoot, people think they learn to count as little kids. Mostly they don't. |
| 17:57.15 | Kilroo | They learn patterns. |
| 17:57.23 | Gngsk | lrn2count is a sweet mod |
| 17:57.34 | Stephmw | NeoTron: funny thing is, sometimes the PTR lags behind their mainstream |
| 17:57.36 | Seerah_ | what about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results? ;) |
| 17:57.38 | trh | NeoTron: did they patch the arena gear in that patch? |
| 17:58.09 | Kilroo | If you can establish a one to one correspondence from THIS many fingers to THAT many of those things, then they're the same number. |
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| 17:58.32 | Seerah_ | heh, I finally got to the "reply to post" page and I forgot what I was going to say :P |
| 17:59.09 | Kilroo | I just realized that my directories say "Wau, WTF?" |
| 17:59.26 | Kaelten | people are hammering the files server |
| 17:59.33 | Kaelten | its avg 2.5mb/s over the last 5s |
| 17:59.38 | trh | Kaelten: those bastards :( |
| 17:59.44 | Kilroo | Kaelten! |
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| 18:00.06 | Kilroo | Now that I figured out that if I let WAU overwrite it it's probably not gonna work |
| 18:00.15 | Kilroo | I like KCI-Ace2. |
| 18:00.29 | phyber | hmm. haste should have added modules and improved Fizzle instead of creating oGlow, I think. :/ |
| 18:00.33 | Seerah_ | Kilroo: no, it won't ;) |
| 18:00.48 | Kilroo | It has most of the parts I care about and some that I don't think KCI had when I used it before. |
| 18:01.32 | Seerah_ | the only issue I have with it is the tooltip. (I'd also like to be able to see a price per item on bids in the AH, too, like the mod PricePer does) |
| 18:01.34 | Kilroo | It does seem to cause errors when I close linked items, but suspect that's something else's fault. And it just says "Fatality!" anyhow. |
| 18:02.00 | Seerah_ | I haven't gotten errors with KCI2 |
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| 18:02.20 | Kilroo | That makes me even more convinced it's something else's fault. |
| 18:02.24 | ckknight | is SVN dead? |
| 18:02.30 | Seerah_ | maybe.... |
| 18:02.49 | Kilroo | Oh, it is a little irritating that the little box for what auction prices it's seen tends to cover up the actual tooltip. |
| 18:02.57 | Stephmw | ckknight: worked for me 5mins ago |
| 18:03.07 | kenlyric | phyber: heh, nobody here improves. They reinvent. |
| 18:03.08 | Ominous | not orkning for me now |
| 18:03.11 | Kilroo | But if that's really bothering me I can move Baggins up higher on the screen. |
| 18:03.21 | kenlyric | programmers are nothing if not consistent in their egos. |
| 18:03.22 | Ominous | now it is |
| 18:03.36 | Kilroo | What is oGlow? |
| 18:03.39 | Seerah_ | yay! my reply posted right away. now it will take me 10 minutes to view the next thread |
| 18:03.45 | Kilroo | I use Fizzle but I've forgotten why. |
| 18:03.57 | trh | kenlyric: in my experience it's not the ego, it's usually just the missing knowledge that library xyz does exactly that |
| 18:04.18 | trh | kenlyric: paired with a underrating of the complexity |
| 18:04.29 | Kaelten | I had to reboot the server |
| 18:04.36 | Seerah_ | Kilroo: yeah, my KCI2 tooltip tends to cover up what item I'm hovering over (plus some) and sometimes will cover up another tooltip from EQCompare |
| 18:04.43 | Kalman| | Candybar question: Can the bar be set to a given length, then timeleft set to a greater value than the length, so that the bar stays full until it starts counting down those last N seconds? |
| 18:04.50 | kenlyric | trh: well, I was speaking of people who code mods that do the exact same thing without bother to make other mods just do what they want. |
| 18:04.58 | vhaarr | Kalman|: Didn't ammo answer you about that earlier? |
| 18:05.00 | kenlyric | but that's just as much the ego of the original programmer as the new one :) |
| 18:05.10 | Kalman| | vhaarr: No. Very different questions. |
| 18:05.20 | Kalman| | Ammo answered re: length > timeleft. |
| 18:05.20 | phyber | kenlyric: yup. "This contraption is quite fantastic! What did you call it again? A "wheel"? FABULOUS!!!" |
| 18:05.26 | trh | kenlyric: in that case the programmer prolly didn't liked the code of the original mod, didn'T want to ask the original author =) |
| 18:05.27 | Kalman| | I'm asking the opposite case now. |
| 18:05.33 | kenlyric | phyber: ding ding ding! |
| 18:05.39 | Kilroo | I wonder, once SanityBags has PT3 support, whether I would like it better than Baggins. |
| 18:05.45 | vhaarr | Kalman|: the API is there, just browse through it |
| 18:06.03 | Kilroo | I shall probably never find out. |
| 18:06.22 | Kilroo | At this rate the next time I play after my BC trial runs out will be on Ace3 mods. |
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| 18:08.39 | Seerah_ | the server's much better now, Kaelten. But I was curious why the forums are no longer linked on the front page? |
| 18:09.15 | Kaelten | they are |
| 18:09.20 | Kaelten | you may have to do a force refresh |
| 18:10.16 | Seerah_ | ahh, thank you - that fixed it. It really threw me off for my mouse to go to that spot on the page and there be no link there ;) |
| 18:11.12 | Seerah_ | it was showing a community portal link or somesuch |
| 18:11.17 | Bruners | how much rep do you get from a full SH run with favour? |
| 18:11.38 | chutwig | about 2k |
| 18:11.39 | chutwig | if you use favors the whole time |
| 18:12.10 | trh | i remember more like 3k, but i'm not sure =) |
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| 18:12.36 | Kilroo | Well, Pitbull is still throwing that dewdrop usage error on login, but that doesn't really bother me. |
| 18:13.21 | kenlyric | SH is right around 2000 for a human, without favor. |
| 18:14.37 | phyber | Kilroo: and you're /sure/ it's pitbull causing it and not just that pitbull's dewdrop happens to be the copy that's active in memory? |
| 18:15.09 | Seerah_ | Kilroo: do you run embedded libs or standalone? |
| 18:16.14 | Kilroo | phyber: No, not remotely. Seerah_: Standalone, unless I've done it wrong. |
| 18:16.27 | Kilroo | [2007/05/15 14:14:32-40-x1]: PitBull-r35515\PitBull.lua:1036: Dewdrop-2.0: args.partytarget.args.border: "usage" must be a string |
| 18:16.27 | Kilroo | <in C code>: ? |
| 18:16.27 | Kilroo | AceEvent-2.0-35478 (Ace2):255: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 18:16.28 | Kilroo | AceEvent-2.0-35478 (Ace2):1025: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:1018> |
| 18:16.28 | Kilroo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.30 | Kalman| | vhaar: The API ignores the SetTimeLeft if set time left is greater than length. There's no way I can find, looking at the API, to get the behavior I asked about. Which is why I asked about it, in case there are better programmers thanme, which I'm pretty sure there are. |
| 18:16.35 | Seerah_ | that just tied into phyber's question |
| 18:16.45 | Xuerian | That's not a error in dewdrop |
| 18:16.52 | Xuerian | That's dewdrop throwing a error o_0 |
| 18:17.07 | Kilroo | Okay, so I misspoke. |
| 18:17.24 | Seerah_ | I think he just called it a "dewdrop error" ;) |
| 18:17.39 | nymbia | Kilroo: is your sharedmedia-1.0 up to date? |
| 18:17.43 | Seerah_ | imo, that could go both ways :) |
| 18:17.54 | Xuerian | I was responding to phyber, not really Kilroo :P |
| 18:18.02 | Kilroo | As far as I'm concerned, it is an error involving Pitbull and Dewdrop, it doesn't seem to have any adverse effects except saying "Fatality!", and so it doesn't really bother me. |
| 18:18.09 | Kilroo | nymbia: I haven't the foggiest. |
| 18:18.22 | Seerah_ | Xuerian: fair enough :P |
| 18:18.30 | nymbia | Kilroo: well, an out-of-date sharedmedia would cause that error, so check ;) |
| 18:18.31 | Punkie` | If something's been deleted from the SVN, does that mean I can't get a really old revision of it? |
| 18:18.49 | Kilroo | nymbia: That's probably it. Thank you. |
| 18:18.55 | Punkie` | nymbia! |
| 18:19.05 | Fisker- | nymbia ! |
| 18:19.10 | Punkie` | no me! |
| 18:19.15 | Bam__ | SVN never forgets! |
| 18:19.24 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 18:19.25 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 18:19.26 | Kilroo | I thought that was LFN. |
| 18:19.36 | Seerah_ | Punkie: try going to files.wowace.com/mod name |
| 18:19.46 | Punkie` | I did, but this is quite a while ago |
| 18:19.56 | Seerah_ | what were you looking for? |
| 18:20.06 | Bam__ | try svn up -r 1 :) |
| 18:20.09 | Punkie` | one of the early revisions of oSkin |
| 18:20.20 | Seerah_ | oSkin is now Skinner |
| 18:20.23 | renchap | nymbia: is it possible to disable the castbar in quartz ? i want to use the pitbull one |
| 18:20.25 | Punkie` | no, skinner is a joke |
| 18:21.01 | nymbia | Punkie`: just do a checkout @rev, if you have svn |
| 18:21.12 | Jagobah | Quartz...... crystal ........ |
| 18:21.16 | Punkie` | but I don't know what revisions of oSkin there are |
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| 18:21.46 | nymbia | renchap: i was just thinking about that. at the moment it's intertwined with the core, but the plan is to split it into a seperate module. |
| 18:21.55 | renchap | ok, cool :) |
| 18:22.33 | Punkie` | I get request failed on a log report :P |
| 18:23.00 | nymbia | Punkie`: lemme take a quick look |
| 18:23.05 | Punkie` | cool, cheers |
| 18:24.01 | Xuerian | Signs you know a addon is Ace2, #32: When the part of a addon that was the reason it was created, can be disabled. |
| 18:24.11 | Kilroo | LOL |
| 18:24.14 | nymbia | Xuerian: rofl |
| 18:24.15 | kergoth | hahah |
| 18:24.31 | Kilroo | By the way. |
| 18:24.45 | Kilroo | In case asking is quicker than looking it up. |
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| 18:25.23 | Kilroo | Can a single macro switch which piece of equipment is in a certain slot, /cast something, and then switch back? |
| 18:25.37 | Josh_Borke | you could try |
| 18:25.44 | Kilroo | And if not...was that formerly possible at some time? |
| 18:26.33 | phyber | everything was possible at sometime. we used to be able to make a coffee while we ran across the barrens to hand in a quest. |
| 18:26.50 | Kilroo | Reason I ask is I seem to remember, very faintly, an addon (not a macro actually) that used to switch you from a sword to a dagger when you tried to backstab, and then back again. |
| 18:27.23 | kergoth | phyber: i miss autotravel :( |
| 18:27.24 | Kilroo | I vaguely recall that I was using daggers only at the time anyway so I didn't use it. |
| 18:27.57 | Kalman| | Kilroo: Don't think it's possible anymore due to implementation of cooldown on weaponswap. |
| 18:27.57 | Seerah_ | I think someone was talking about doing somethign like that for evocation.... |
| 18:28.02 | phyber | kergoth: yeah. I mainly miss getting off the boats automatically :/ |
| 18:28.10 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
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| 18:28.23 | kergoth | hehe, that too |
| 18:28.30 | Punkie` | nymbia: found an old revision on filefront, but ill just ask the question that i was looking to get the answer from :P |
| 18:28.33 | kergoth | i end up riding it back and forth for like 20 minutes while i'm tabbed out |
| 18:28.46 | phyber | hehe |
| 18:28.47 | Seerah_ | haha |
| 18:29.01 | nymbia | Punkie`: ok. well i mightve found a rev number for you if trac hadn't locked up.. |
| 18:29.05 | Kalman| | You can write a macro that swaps to dagger when you backstab and backstabs the second time you hit it, but not one that onetouch swap stab swaps. |
| 18:29.21 | Punkie` | yeah, thanks :) |
| 18:29.36 | evl | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/06/16 |
| 18:29.43 | Punkie` | is there a simple way just to create that nice little gradient? |
| 18:29.51 | Seerah_ | what's this "bigStep" thing that's going into some mods? |
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| 18:30.41 | Punkie` | I have no problem with creating a background frame with 'UI-Tooltip-Background' but I really don't know how to create the gradient for it |
| 18:30.43 | Seerah_ | evl: haha |
| 18:30.50 | kergoth | Xuerian: * XLootMonitor: Fixed the +1 to total in inv bug. I think. <-was that due to the item showing up in your inventory before you see the loot event, or something else? (haven't read the diff) |
| 18:30.53 | Kilroo | Kalman|: thanks. I'll drop the idea then. |
| 18:30.57 | Ominous | dewdrops slider function has issues :/ |
| 18:31.08 | Ominous | it keeps hiding when i move mouse over it |
| 18:31.09 | Xuerian | Punkie`: XLoot/XLootSkin - SkinTooltip or something like that, bottom function |
| 18:31.44 | Xuerian | kergoth: Yeah I kinda fucked that up, I don't really know what was going on. I thought that was the problem too, but since someone responded in hours that it wasn't working well.. :P |
| 18:32.12 | Punkie` | cheers Xuerian <3 |
| 18:32.32 | Xuerian | Punkie`: That's actually the old oSkin routine ripped off wholesale :) |
| 18:34.02 | Punkie` | Xuerian: lovely, let me give this a whirl :) |
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| 18:34.52 | Xuerian | Oouh. Me likey Quartz. :) |
| 18:35.21 | Xuerian | Bar anim is a little jerky, but eh. <.< |
| 18:35.21 | Gngsk | Me likey bouncey! Me likey bouncey! |
| 18:35.37 | Punkie` | nymbia: can you please do me 2 favors? :D |
| 18:35.43 | Kilroo | Would you expect a rogue to find reason to prefer Quartz over the casting bars in Pitbull? |
| 18:35.54 | Ominous | yes |
| 18:35.56 | Kilroo | About all I do with casting bars is time my kicks and gouges... |
| 18:36.06 | Ominous | the lag part for mounting, and the tradskill part is shweet |
| 18:36.10 | nymbia | Punkie`: mayyybe |
| 18:36.16 | dodgizzla | For a rogue a "KICK NOW!" addon is sufficient :D |
| 18:36.58 | Punkie` | nymbia: update the consumables for pt3! they don't seem to have the TBC ones! |
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| 18:37.22 | nymbia | Punkie`: i thought toadkiller was keeping those pretty well up to date? |
| 18:37.33 | Punkie` | I dont know, I really can't see |
| 18:37.38 | Kilroo | Now, the Pitbull casting bar plus RogueTimer has helped me a LOT, but so far Quartz sounds like it would mostly be of use to casters. |
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| 18:37.47 | Gngsk | blind people don't get to make suggestions |
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| 18:38.09 | Xuerian | Kilroo: Quartz is nice regardless of what class you are |
| 18:38.25 | Punkie` | also, can you allow pt3bar to not have blank spaces in it if you don't have something which fulfills the requirement of that slot? |
| 18:38.31 | Xuerian | If you're ultra-addon-conscious, it might be frivolous :P |
| 18:39.07 | nymbia | Punkie`: hrm.. i'll look and see if that'd be possible without revamping the positioning system |
| 18:39.15 | Seerah_ | nymbia: I was just looking through the changelog for Quartz and THANKS for putting in positioning options for buffs and mirror bars :) now I gotta test it out. ;) |
| 18:39.37 | Punkie` | nymbia: nice, you could also add dreamlayout, but I usually paste that in myself :p |
| 18:39.43 | phyber | in a Lua for loop, is there something like "next" from perl? |
| 18:39.50 | Amadeo | New MacBook...glad they upgraded them, now if only they let you choose video options :( |
| 18:39.53 | nymbia | Seerah_: :D |
| 18:40.09 | phyber | so I can stop processing what I'm currently looking at and progress to the next thing |
| 18:40.31 | nymbia | phyber: there's a next(), yea |
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| 18:40.46 | phyber | nice. |
| 18:40.49 | nymbia | phyber: but it won't change which iteration the loop's on |
| 18:41.18 | break19 | <- disappointed... no patch today |
| 18:41.20 | Bam__ | phyber: only command is break really and that's not what you need in this case |
| 18:41.43 | phyber | Bam__: yeah. I just want to go onto the next thing in the loop ASAP so I don't have to process crap. |
| 18:42.24 | Bam__ | phyber: yea no direct support for that in Lua.. but you can of course implement it yourself using if-statements or similar |
| 18:43.05 | Seerah_ | break19: I didn't expect one |
| 18:43.12 | phyber | yeah, that sucks, but I guess that's what I'll have to do. put the check into an even bigger 'if' |
| 18:43.22 | break19 | I did.. i got predownload patch data friday... |
| 18:43.27 | Bam__ | Lua is a simple language :P |
| 18:43.49 | Josh_Borke | all the best ones are |
| 18:43.57 | Josh_Borke | binary is even simpler |
| 18:44.05 | Josh_Borke | only 2 options |
| 18:44.13 | Josh_Borke | or should i say 10? |
| 18:44.20 | Bam__ | yea... I might be able to remember one of them! |
| 18:44.27 | Seerah_ | break19: that's just part of the patch given out to ease the stress for downloads when the patch does come out |
| 18:44.37 | break19 | simple, yes, but I wouldn't try to program a 2GB operating system in it. heh |
| 18:44.41 | Bam__ | without looking in the manual |
| 18:44.44 | kenlyric | for latency in quartz, do I want to Embed it? |
| 18:44.51 | break19 | Seerah_: I know, thats why I expected the rest of it today. |
| 18:45.28 | Seerah_ | The past couple patches haven't come out for another week or two after the predownload |
| 18:45.55 | Seerah_ | and they're not even done pushing out upgraded items on the PTR |
| 18:46.15 | Arrowmaster | not to mention they wont patch live if they just patched ptr the day before |
| 18:46.34 | break19 | i dont play ptr so I wasnt aware |
| 18:46.49 | Seerah_ | I expect the patch to come out until at *least* a few days after PTRs close |
| 18:48.22 | Kaydeethree | they pushed a ptr patch yesterday. afaik they're done with item upgrades |
| 18:48.42 | Xuerian | heyyyyyy nymbia.... How do I make Quartz animate faster, all smooth like? :P |
| 18:48.52 | Bam__ | they pushed something... but do we know for sure what? |
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| 18:50.24 | KarlThePagan | if the PTR item updates are done... then the battleground lv 70 items are crap |
| 18:50.49 | sbu | customer.teliacarrier.com is wow? |
| 18:50.49 | KarlThePagan | I would hope they consider updating those |
| 18:50.52 | nevcairiel | they did get updates |
| 18:50.55 | nevcairiel | the epics. |
| 18:51.03 | KarlThePagan | yea just not the blues |
| 18:51.06 | Xuerian | I take it CIA is on a smoke break |
| 18:51.14 | nevcairiel | epics got patched |
| 18:51.16 | nevcairiel | blues not |
| 18:51.17 | nevcairiel | and wont |
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| 18:51.23 | KarlThePagan | bleh |
| 18:51.33 | KarlThePagan | and I wanted to mix/match gladiator and GM items for more resil |
| 18:51.46 | KarlThePagan | guess I'll go buy my gladiator chest now |
| 18:52.04 | kenlyric | everything purple got an upgrade but the three damage caster crafted sets :) |
| 18:52.22 | KarlThePagan | after everyone cried when they were nerfed... HMMMMM INTERESTING |
| 18:52.29 | kenlyric | oh, and the arcane resist trinket from karazhan. |
| 18:53.10 | kenlyric | those changes were re-deployment of item points, not upgrades or downgrades. |
| 18:53.27 | kenlyric | it was just sucky redeployment :) |
| 18:53.57 | KarlThePagan | meh... any downgrade in +dmg is a nerf |
| 18:54.00 | KarlThePagan | call it whatever you want |
| 18:54.14 | KarlThePagan | but for a caster that's the stat to have, maybe crit if you're a mage or destro lock |
| 18:54.43 | KarlThePagan | the great improvement in TBC is the relatively few unbalanced items that put all their points in +dmg |
| 18:54.51 | TheKarn | hmm does VE/VT need LoS? |
| 18:54.59 | KarlThePagan | don't think so |
| 18:55.10 | KarlThePagan | PoH doesn't |
| 18:55.19 | snirks | going on 30 mins lurker fishing |
| 18:55.19 | KarlThePagan | you can heal thru walls with poh |
| 18:55.23 | TheKarn | oh and does US ahve 2.1 yet? |
| 18:55.25 | snirks | fuck this piece of crap shit |
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| 18:58.03 | Xuerian | Weird.... It looks like item events are triggered after it hits your inventory for quest items, but before with regular loot |
| 18:58.11 | ulic | TheKarn: nope |
| 18:59.26 | Ominous | ckknight: ping |
| 19:00.23 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: yay, 70 2 hours ago ^^ |
| 19:00.28 | TheKarn | damn so EU wont get it tomorrow :( |
| 19:00.32 | TheKarn | i want my Shadoweave set |
| 19:00.51 | Gnarfoz | TheKarn: be prepared to wait another two weeks |
| 19:01.06 | Gnarfoz | or at least (obviously :P) until next week |
| 19:01.11 | TheKarn | lol |
| 19:01.13 | trh | TheKarn: would be interesting if they give 2.1 to eu though... *imagines the whining on the us boards* |
| 19:01.27 | TheKarn | i;ve just grinded all the mats |
| 19:01.32 | TheKarn | lol @ us whiners |
| 19:01.38 | kebinusan | There was a ptr patch monday afternoon |
| 19:02.10 | kebinusan | But the last of the item changes are in now and quite a few encounters have been tested, so cross your fingers for next week I guess |
| 19:02.18 | phyber | you just have to jam the "not the center of the world" fork in sometimes! (EU before US patching) ;) |
| 19:02.19 | Arrowmaster | not all the item changes are in |
| 19:02.50 | kebinusan | Umm, the last ptr push updated overworlds and pvp items which were the only items left untouched previously |
| 19:02.53 | Gokie | Kind of an aside, but anyone know how to modify what texture KTM's bars use? I seem to remember it being possible to change, but I can't for the life of me remember how or where I found out |
| 19:03.12 | trh | phyber: ah well.. most of the times it's not too bad to be second choice... at least they figured out most of the problems while migrating and the maintenance usually isn'T extended =) |
| 19:04.01 | phyber | I'm on Bloodhoof-EU, maintenance is ALWAYS extended. |
| 19:04.17 | phyber | rebooting the server is a 12 hour fiasco :p |
| 19:04.24 | trh | phyber: on aegwyyn-eu it's rarely... but the server like to lag, so it's called "laegwynn" ;) |
| 19:04.51 | Kaydeethree | I'm really not looking forward to 2.1... like all major patches the servers are gonna be unstable for 3 days |
| 19:05.22 | trh | Kaydeethree: time to go to the beach :) |
| 19:06.19 | Kilroo | Oh yes. |
| 19:06.53 | Kilroo | What is currently the recommended addon for people who want to be able to look up the inventory and bank of their alts? |
| 19:07.05 | Kaydeethree | I've been suggesting OneView |
| 19:07.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Personally, I like Sanity. |
| 19:07.14 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, I like sanity myself |
| 19:07.21 | Fin | I like to get a little crazy myself |
| 19:07.32 | Kilroo | Is it SanityInventory or Sanity2? |
| 19:07.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Sanity2 |
| 19:07.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Sanity2 |
| 19:07.46 | trh | i'm using onebag/view too.. but it's mostly a personal favour thingy |
| 19:08.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Sanity2 doesn't need SanityInventory yet, there's a branch that has it split off, but it's not in trunk as of yet. |
| 19:08.16 | TheKarn | you seem confused |
| 19:08.23 | TheKarn | afaik tehre are three mods |
| 19:08.28 | TheKarn | Sanity2, SanityItemCache and SanityBags |
| 19:08.43 | Kilroo | That was what I thought. |
| 19:09.01 | ZealotOnAStick | SanityItemCache, Inventory, whatever. |
| 19:09.02 | Kilroo | SanityInventory was the pre-2.0 version, or something? |
| 19:09.02 | TheKarn | yup |
| 19:09.10 | TheKarn | SanityInventory = Sanity version 1 |
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| 19:09.34 | Kilroo | Sorry, should have made it clear that was what I meant. At one point I was confused and thought Sanity2 was a completely different idea. |
| 19:09.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Sanity2 is an Ace2 complete rewrite of Sanity. |
| 19:10.01 | TheKarn | yup |
| 19:10.03 | TheKarn | and it's pro |
| 19:10.08 | TheKarn | and so is sanitybags |
| 19:10.14 | TheKarn | although its still in alpha |
| 19:10.27 | Fin | Sanity2: Not even a little tiny bit mad. |
| 19:10.29 | ZealotOnAStick | SanityBags is an expansion that does personal bag/inventory management with categories and stuff. SanityItemCache was split off from Sanity2 to be a sort of library or shared code so as not to duplicate it in both. |
| 19:10.46 | Kilroo | just commenting earlier that I wonder if I'd prefer Sanitybags to Baggins once it has PT3 support. |
| 19:10.50 | kenlyric | and so you don't have to open either for your inventory to get updated. |
| 19:11.06 | Kilroo | Or, for that matter, if I already would. |
| 19:11.11 | TheKarn | Kilroo i alraedy prefer it |
| 19:11.16 | TheKarn | try it |
| 19:11.23 | kenlyric | Kilroo: I'll prefer sanity bags the instant it can 1) replace the default bag when you visit a vendor and 2) sanitize the bank. |
| 19:11.24 | ZealotOnAStick | but the current Sanity2 still on Trunk is fully working standalone. At least last I checked it was. |
| 19:11.27 | Gnarfoz | http://www.unf-unf.de/video/lieber-photoshop-als-diaet.html < insane ^^ |
| 19:11.44 | Gnarfoz | (no german involved, for the curious or cautious ^^) |
| 19:11.44 | TheKarn | the only thng it lacks is bank. |
| 19:12.23 | kenlyric | TheKarn: and when you visit a vendor or anything that opens the default bag slot, it opens the default bag slot in addition to itself. |
| 19:12.51 | Kilroo | Ah. Now, I couldn't really tolerate that either. |
| 19:12.57 | Kilroo | Or rather, I could, but I won't. |
| 19:13.10 | nevcairiel | does anyone know why the buff check functionality is gone from XRS ? |
| 19:13.17 | Mikk | is it? |
| 19:13.22 | Mikk | it's in the version i'm using |
| 19:13.30 | nevcairiel | its gone from mine :o |
| 19:13.33 | Mikk | the combo check is only allowed if you're (L) or (A) tho |
| 19:13.50 | nevcairiel | obviously |
| 19:14.02 | Kilroo | Would your recommendation between OneView and Sanity2 change based on whether the person looking for such an addon has much experience with them? I think the person in question may not use much other than CT and KLH. |
| 19:14.04 | nevcairiel | I am L tho |
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| 19:15.20 | kebinusan | I think it all comes down to the style of bags you want |
| 19:15.53 | Kilroo | ok |
| 19:16.24 | kebinusan | I like arkinventory mostly though it has some serious lag issues when opening the bank and stuff, but Ive been too lazy to look at sanity |
| 19:16.44 | kebinusan | I just like categories for stuff |
| 19:16.48 | Kilroo | Hehe |
| 19:16.51 | kebinusan | makes it easier to find things at a glance in your bags |
| 19:17.33 | Kilroo | I use Baggins for the same reason. |
| 19:19.35 | TheKarn | kenlyric, mine doesnt |
| 19:19.40 | TheKarn | mine only opens sanitybags |
| 19:20.02 | Antiarc|Work | If you want to use Sanity with Sanitybags, get the branch copy |
| 19:20.09 | Antiarc|Work | I need to merge it back in, but it needs more testing |
| 19:20.15 | Antiarc|Work | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Sanity2/SplitCache/ |
| 19:20.24 | Antiarc|Work | That's the itemcache/sanitybags-compatible version of sanity |
| 19:20.27 | TheKarn | how are banks coming along? |
| 19:20.32 | Antiarc|Work | I haven't had time to work on it :/ |
| 19:20.38 | TheKarn | /cry |
| 19:20.42 | Antiarc|Work | I'm getting maybe 4-6 WoW hours/week right now |
| 19:20.46 | Kilroo | Does SanityBags provide access to your actual bags? |
| 19:20.51 | TheKarn | yup |
| 19:20.55 | Kilroo | That doesn't make sense. Let me rephrase. |
| 19:20.59 | TheKarn | filter: bag:1 |
| 19:21.05 | TheKarn | bag:2 |
| 19:21.06 | TheKarn | bag:3 |
| 19:21.07 | TheKarn | etc |
| 19:21.21 | TheKarn | or bags 1 and to: bag:1,bag:2 |
| 19:21.26 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
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| 19:21.51 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, can you make it so there is always one "empty" slot shown? |
| 19:22.19 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: I could, sure. What it does now is show empty slots up to a) the number of empty slots you have, or b) the end of the row, whichever comes first. |
| 19:23.51 | Antiarc|Work | I could just make it go to the next row and do a row of empty slots if the last row is full. |
| 19:23.51 | TheKarn | meh you dont really need to fill the row. and there only needs to be one as there is no positioning |
| 19:23.51 | TheKarn | and you cant drag multiple stacks around :P |
| 19:23.51 | Kilroo | With Baggins I have to go tell Infinibar to control the bag bar temporarily if I want to switch to a new bag. (I don't think I had to do that with Onebag.) Does SanityBags have the same...I won't call it problem, because frankly I can see why it wouldn't be included...inconvenience, I guess. |
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| 19:24.07 | TheKarn | i found with OneBag you could just right click on a new bag and aslong as there was enough space around, it would move items around in your bags to empty the old bag, and replace it with the new one |
| 19:24.16 | TheKarn | might not have been OneBag but something did that for me :) |
| 19:24.28 | Kilroo | hm |
| 19:24.32 | TheKarn | it would replace the smallest bag |
| 19:24.41 | Kilroo | Eh, it hardly matters. I have two more days to play. |
| 19:24.49 | Kilroo | Or is it one? |
| 19:24.50 | TheKarn | hmm? |
| 19:24.54 | Kilroo | Something like that. |
| 19:24.57 | TheKarn | till what? |
| 19:25.01 | Kilroo | I'm on my BC trial. |
| 19:25.05 | TheKarn | ah lol |
| 19:25.11 | TheKarn | learn2buyTBC |
| 19:25.13 | Kilroo | I came back to try out new addons more than to play again. Hehe. |
| 19:25.32 | Kilroo | I'd love to. Hire me for something so I can afford it. |
| 19:25.39 | TheKarn | heh |
| 19:25.43 | kebinusan | wow ok I can now say Ive met someone who didnt just use a trial account to spam gold advertisements |
| 19:26.02 | kebinusan | hopefully anyway |
| 19:26.06 | Xuerian | I'm on a trial to code :P |
| 19:26.25 | kebinusan | I now feel better about the world |
| 19:26.31 | Kilroo | lol |
| 19:26.47 | Kilroo | Well, I do plan on trying to get at least two more instance runs in |
| 19:26.56 | kebinusan | the instances are fun |
| 19:27.02 | kebinusan | I like the outland ones |
| 19:27.13 | Kilroo | but my money ran out back before you could even do frames without XML or whatever it is you can do now. |
| 19:27.29 | Kilroo | So I wanted to see what was new and awexome. |
| 19:27.38 | Kilroo | What outland instance would you recommend at level 45? <.< |
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| 19:28.04 | Gngsk | heh |
| 19:28.14 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:29.37 | Xuerian | can always get another trial |
| 19:29.38 | Xuerian | :p |
| 19:29.46 | Kilroo | ... |
| 19:29.54 | Kilroo | This is my Burning Crusade trial. |
| 19:29.57 | Xuerian | Oh. |
| 19:29.58 | Xuerian | Well |
| 19:30.02 | Xuerian | Those are slightly harder to come by. |
| 19:30.03 | Xuerian | <.< |
| 19:30.04 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 19:30.07 | Kilroo | Just a bit. |
| 19:30.19 | Kilroo | :) |
| 19:32.19 | Kilroo | I need to find an enchanter tonight though. |
| 19:32.39 | Kilroo | I keep forgetting to put the mats back in my bank before I go try to play some more. |
| 19:32.57 | Kilroo | None of you are enchanters on Medivh are you? |
| 19:33.25 | Lyfe | oddly enough, I am, and I have a friend who's significantly higher than me in enchanting, also on said realm. |
| 19:33.44 | Kaydeethree | got some guild enchanters, but I'm herb/alch on medivh |
| 19:33.46 | Lyfe | (only at like 304, myself) |
| 19:34.19 | Kaydeethree | what do you need? |
| 19:34.28 | Kilroo | Heh...the highest thing I want done is Greater Agility to gloves. |
| 19:35.41 | Kilroo | (The mats for that cost plenty as it is.) |
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| 19:36.03 | Kilroo | I was mostly kidding though. I gotta run if I'm gonna hit balls with sticks. |
| 19:36.25 | Reality | ~flee |
| 19:36.27 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 19:36.44 | Kilroo | [15:35:51] Reality has joined <--------Now that's a rather surreal announcement... |
| 19:36.52 | Reality | haha |
| 19:37.20 | Reality | :O |
| 19:37.42 | Kilroo | (O:3 |
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| 19:38.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Reality is frequently inaccurate. |
| 19:39.06 | trh | oh man... curse-gaming is such a mess |
| 19:39.16 | Guillotine | trh: how so? |
| 19:40.04 | trh | Guillotine: tried to upload a new version of a addon, doesnt appear in the "edit files" section or in the details page, can't delete old versions (some error page shows up) |
| 19:40.26 | Guillotine | trh: what addon? I'll see if I can fix it |
| 19:40.31 | trh | Guillotine: vanaskos |
| 19:41.06 | Guillotine | what version are you trying to delete? |
| 19:41.12 | Guillotine | they all seem to show up for me |
| 19:41.19 | trh | Guillotine: tried uploading several times, it seems that the uploading works, but it just doesnt show up |
| 19:41.23 | yacoob | Kilroo, Reality is enclosing on you! |
| 19:41.45 | trh | Guillotine: 2.30 up to 2.66 (they reappeared after i deleted them few months ago) |
| 19:42.25 | Guillotine | interesting... you tried re-deleting them? |
| 19:42.45 | trh | Guillotine: just now, getting: "Oops |
| 19:42.45 | trh | It seems, the geniuses behind this site, have broken something. Let's hope they're working on fixing it right now.. either way, we're spamming them with a bunch of emails so they know they messed up. |
| 19:43.10 | Guillotine | alright, relaying info to zinor |
| 19:43.36 | trh | tnx |
| 19:44.43 | Guillotine | trh: could you try again quickly? |
| 19:44.59 | trh | sure |
| 19:45.09 | trh | Guillotine: same error |
| 19:47.12 | Amadeo | Anyone know how much webspace Comcast gives its users by default? |
| 19:47.12 | Guillotine | I dunno. but I heard they give unlimited free down-time |
| 19:47.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Guillotine: lol, indeed |
| 19:47.29 | phyber | Amadeo: lots if you use Usenet as your storage device. |
| 19:47.35 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:47.41 | Amadeo | I haven't had Comcast trouble in years |
| 19:47.44 | Amadeo | however... |
| 19:47.57 | Amadeo | It took about 2 years of fighting with them for them to finally fix it |
| 19:48.13 | Fisker- | celebrate the h4x |
| 19:48.25 | NightHawkTheSane | When i first got this apt, i got comcast cable. It was down quite literally at least once or twice a week, sometimes more often. After a month I said fuck you and switched to qwest dsl |
| 19:48.32 | Fisker- | HAHA |
| 19:48.37 | Fisker- | i won |
| 19:48.45 | Punkie` | won what? |
| 19:48.50 | Fisker- | Quad Core's get slashed again in 2 months |
| 19:49.09 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, same with mine...ended up being because the line coming to my home was busted up...I contacted the county cable commission and they forced them to fix it |
| 19:49.10 | Fisker- | good thing i didn't buy then :D |
| 19:49.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: thats cool, could have been the same for me, but it was just easier to go with dsl. and my service is wonderful with it, so :) |
| 19:50.48 | Amadeo | I had no other options, too far from the CO for DSL |
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| 19:51.11 | Amadeo | I'd drop Comcast right now if I could get FIOS or something |
| 19:52.03 | Kaydeethree | wtb |
| 19:55.50 | kergoth | elkano should add an option to use niagara for ebbs's config isntead of dewdrop |
| 19:55.57 | kergoth | s/niagara/waterfall/ |
| 19:56.15 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, EBBs config is pretty deep |
| 19:56.35 | sedatedChipmunk | i always lose it at like the 6th level and have to go through all the menus again >8P |
| 19:57.43 | kergoth | yea |
| 19:58.13 | Josh_Borke | anyone good with linux? |
| 19:58.14 | kergoth | and its actin gweird for me, i made a group that has no bars, just the icons.. and i go to change the bar height, and i drag it up higher than 20 (the max is 100), and it drops back to 20 again. same if i type it and hit enter, goes back to 20 |
| 19:58.15 | kergoth | its weird |
| 19:58.20 | kergoth | figured maybe it was a dewdrop bug, i dunno |
| 19:58.22 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: yep |
| 19:58.23 | NightHawkTheSane | sedatedChipmunk: i tried bulkmail a bit ago, got a nil error, something about 'curmenu', forgot to pasty it before i logged though, sorry :\ |
| 19:58.24 | phyber | Josh_Borke: sup. |
| 19:58.35 | sedatedChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: thanks |
| 19:58.37 | Josh_Borke | can i make a new kernel load a module compiled for a previous kernel? |
| 19:58.56 | phyber | depends how the kernel was compiled. |
| 19:59.00 | sedatedChipmunk | not in general, no |
| 19:59.17 | Josh_Borke | well that sucks the big one |
| 19:59.30 | sedatedChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: i think i know where it is, so no problem =) |
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| 19:59.52 | NightHawkTheSane | sedatedChipmunk: cool, sorry for not being more helpful, its kinda earlyish here and I wasn't thinkign :\ |
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| 20:04.24 | Josh_Borke | sv kjalv; uft; |
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| 20:06.42 | nymbia | this commit will go through |
| 20:06.45 | nymbia | one of these days |
| 20:06.52 | trh_ | nymbia: it takes a while ;) |
| 20:08.22 | Josh_Borke | i have no idea what i was trying to type |
| 20:08.22 | nymbia | hrm, went through but no CIA echo? |
| 20:08.31 | trh_ | seems like CIA is on vacation |
| 20:08.38 | nymbia | indeed |
| 20:08.47 | Josh_Borke | i think it was: ok, thanks guys |
| 20:08.56 | nymbia | Josh_Borke: lol |
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| 20:16.12 | Gagorian | seems like the .zip updater script isn't working either |
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| 20:17.36 | TheKarn | [20:59] *** CIA-23 quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 20:18.23 | TheKarn | http://cia.vc/ is down aswell |
| 20:18.30 | TheKarn | looks like CIA has died completely |
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| 20:20.08 | sergio | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/ret_otherloots.jpg <- is the stat summary ratingbuster too |
| 20:20.25 | abyssichate | yes |
| 20:20.30 | KarlThePagan | nice |
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| 20:26.31 | Amadeo | what's that pretty decent freeware FPS game that people mention every so often? |
| 20:26.38 | Amadeo | might be open source, not sure |
| 20:27.00 | kebinusan | so Im poking around with sanity for the first time, can anyone point me to how Id tag items to categories |
| 20:27.36 | kebinusan | ah got it nm |
| 20:27.38 | kebinusan | silly icon |
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| 20:30.40 | kenlyric | the best animated gif you will se today http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f43/blink_183/hhgttg-1.gif |
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| 20:33.59 | kebinusan | http://www.shutupandpull.com/images/avatars/51441251446482dab05509.gif <-- Better |
| 20:34.08 | Seerah_ | Okay, question...... |
| 20:34.33 | Seerah_ | can I make DisableAddOn() disable an addon for ALL characters? |
| 20:34.50 | nymbia | Seerah_: not as far as i know |
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| 20:35.36 | Awaa | <3 Quartz |
| 20:35.40 | Seerah_ | hmm.... I guess my workaround for not being able to make my saved variables work isn't working as well as I thought :P |
| 20:36.17 | Seerah_ | in my UI comp, I have a pop up that says if anything important has changed |
| 20:36.39 | Seerah_ | and I was having it disable itself, but then that only worked for one character :P |
| 20:36.41 | Seerah_ | hehe |
| 20:37.15 | nymbia | Seerah_: use a saved variable :) |
| 20:37.44 | Awaa | Can Quartz put up test bars ? |
| 20:37.57 | Seerah_ | at first I was trying to use saved variables to save the version number and then pop up again when it was a new version, but I kept ending up with a saved variable of nil. even with like 10 people helping me I couldn't get it to work with my noobness :P |
| 20:38.02 | nymbia | Awaa: not yet ;) |
| 20:38.12 | Bruners | in a macro can you have [modifier:alt,shift] ? |
| 20:38.15 | ulic | Awaa: I don't think so, if you unlock it, you can see the main bar. |
| 20:38.33 | Seerah_ | Bruners: I believe so |
| 20:38.36 | Awaa | Have to find an caster mob then :p |
| 20:39.01 | Seerah_ | It does show anchors for cast bars |
| 20:39.07 | Seerah_ | uncheck Lock |
| 20:39.23 | Awaa | Ah, cool. thanks |
| 20:39.31 | ulic | Awaa: or target people around a mail box, they are always crafting, which should display target casts, I think. |
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| 20:40.12 | rubik | speaking of quartz.. first off.. <3 nymbia.. secondly.. i wish i could figure out what conflicts with blizz cast bar.. it's either ag_uf (pretty sure this is it) or bongos or quartz |
| 20:41.25 | nymbia | rubik: i've heard ag_uf does it, it should be easy to squash :) |
| 20:41.48 | rubik | yeah.. i gotta find the ag_uf thread and post about it.. been meaning to do that for months.. it's been broken that long |
| 20:42.32 | rubik | i.e. the only way to hide blizzard castbar with ag_uf is to have it show castbar on player frame.. soon as i toggle that off, BAM! blizz bar is unhide-able |
| 20:42.40 | rubik | ...by any other addon |
| 20:43.28 | nymbia | yeah |
| 20:43.44 | ulic | I thought I did that with ag_UF without problems, but it's been a while. |
| 20:43.54 | ulic | I think I had ag_UF and eCastingBar back then |
| 20:44.01 | rubik | ag still maintaining aguf sort of, right? he'll see if i post in the ag_UF thread? |
| 20:44.48 | ulic | he's been in here quite a bit lately, so I would assume |
| 20:44.59 | rubik | ohh.. uses googlecode bug tracker i see |
| 20:45.03 | rubik | i'll try that |
| 20:46.29 | rubik | looks like someone already filed... ughh.. 4 months ago: http://code.google.com/p/agunitframes/issues/detail?id=180 |
| 20:47.44 | Fisker- | Bibi`ouF ! |
| 20:48.16 | Fisker- | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/2p1/ |
| 20:48.17 | Fisker- | btw |
| 20:49.18 | Bruners | how do i create a macro that needs shift+alt to cast a spell ? |
| 20:49.30 | Amadeo | Fisker-: Yay for reused mob textures? |
| 20:50.30 | Fisker- | even though it's a pretty cheap way the movie was made it's still pretty cool |
| 20:50.32 | Fisker- | imo |
| 20:51.20 | kebinusan | Quartz could maybe use a module for a custom timer bar maybe, /quartz timer pizza 12m |
| 20:51.21 | Bibi`ouF | yeah Fisker- saw it |
| 20:51.25 | Bibi`ouF | but news are kinda busy lately |
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| 20:51.33 | kebinusan | heheh |
| 20:51.35 | Bibi`ouF | I didn't even want to post the lady vashj kill news, only did it because Method guys are nice |
| 20:51.49 | Bibi`ouF | but it will be replaced in an hour or two when Curse goes out of the Black Temple |
| 20:53.18 | Josh_Borke | bb |
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| 20:56.15 | Fisker- | Bibi`ouF wasn't that i wanted to talk to you about |
| 20:56.20 | Fisker- | what sploitz did method use on vashj? |
| 20:57.55 | Gokie | they exploited vashj? thought it was supposed to be a legitimate kill |
| 20:58.11 | Bibi`ouF | well |
| 20:58.15 | Bibi`ouF | it was partially legitimate |
| 20:58.16 | Gokie | I downloaded the video but hadn't gotten to watching it yet |
| 20:58.29 | Bibi`ouF | Fear Ward wasn't removed by Vashj fear |
| 20:58.49 | Gokie | hrm |
| 20:58.50 | Bibi`ouF | this is why their melee DPS aren't feared in the movie |
| 20:59.40 | kenlyric | heh, how is that their fault? |
| 20:59.50 | Gokie | well, if fear ward isn't being removed, it's a bug in the encounter, not a bug |
| 21:00.20 | Gokie | I mean, they casted Fear Ward with the expectation that it'd be removed, I assume |
| 21:00.36 | Fisker- | you're telling me they had 5 dwarf priests with them? |
| 21:00.36 | Gokie | er, but in the encounter, not an exploit* |
| 21:00.47 | Fisker- | Or that they only had 2 melee or something? |
| 21:00.48 | Gokie | dammit, I can't type today |
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| 21:02.22 | KarlThePagan | so I'm reading this 2p1 under dev page |
| 21:02.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 21:02.30 | KarlThePagan | there's lore in them thar hills! |
| 21:02.33 | Fisker- | then how are you writing here? |
| 21:02.50 | KarlThePagan | Doomwalker and the Fel Reavers are Kil'Jaeden's sige machines |
| 21:03.07 | Gokie | fine, I can't type properly today =P |
| 21:03.51 | KarlThePagan | so they're being built up in netherstorm to take out the manaforges and tempest keep... for defense in hellfire citadel, and to take out the black temple in SMV |
| 21:03.53 | Matrix110 | nymbia did you receive the data.lua ? |
| 21:05.37 | nymbia | Matrix110: yeah, thanks |
| 21:05.39 | Fisker- | wouldn't it be smarter if he took down the main entrance then KarlThePagan? |
| 21:05.47 | Matrix110 | good |
| 21:06.08 | KarlThePagan | Fisker-, isn't that what doomwalker is trying to do? |
| 21:06.19 | KarlThePagan | "Even now the merciless Doomwalker batters at the temple gates." |
| 21:06.42 | nymbia | Matrix110: what i think i'll do is use the data from it for battlegroups in need of an update, and keep the current data for ones updated pretty recently. |
| 21:06.42 | kebinusan | nymbia: there doesnt seem to be a pt category for flasks |
| 21:06.43 | Fisker- | well he's failing |
| 21:06.46 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 21:06.47 | Matrix110 | ok |
| 21:06.54 | KarlThePagan | so players can kill him ;) |
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| 21:07.07 | KarlThePagan | wouldn't be much of an outdoor boss if he made it inside BT |
| 21:07.18 | Fisker- | why should we do that when he will crack open illidan's skull and giev us free loot? |
| 21:07.19 | Fisker- | :D |
| 21:07.40 | kebinusan | pt.consumable.flask would seem to make sense, but flasks arent counted as consumables atm |
| 21:07.44 | KarlThePagan | you're so right... time to supplicate myself to Kil'Jaden maybe he will GIEV SOJ? |
| 21:08.15 | Herio | ~seen Tekkub |
| 21:08.45 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 7h 39m 6s ago, saying: 'and that one's sad'. |
| 21:08.45 | Kaelten | aha, discovered that the files script hasn't been running because it was in the middle of a run when the reboot happened earlier |
| 21:08.55 | Xuerian | Woops :p |
| 21:09.05 | Fisker- | oh U Kaelten |
| 21:09.12 | Kaelten | hrm CIA died? |
| 21:09.19 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
| 21:09.23 | Xuerian | Flatlined |
| 21:09.25 | Fisker- | (21:59:18) * CIA-23 (n=CIA@208.69.182.149) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 21:09.27 | Kaelten | hrm, hope he gets better |
| 21:09.29 | Fisker- | :( |
| 21:09.29 | nymbia | Kaelten: dev svn's slower than a really.... slow thing. it may be the post-commit hook, since CIA's down |
| 21:09.42 | Kaelten | nymbia probably is |
| 21:09.44 | Fisker- | a really really slow thingy? |
| 21:09.49 | nymbia | Fisker-: shush |
| 21:09.55 | ilifin | slower than sirup through chocolate |
| 21:10.10 | Kaelten | I'll disable the cia script as soon as my file script gets done running |
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| 21:12.44 | Fisker- | slower than a snail in a time dialation field? |
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| 21:13.36 | nymbia | indeed |
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| 21:14.10 | Xuerian | Activate SETA! >.> |
| 21:19.26 | Bam__ | who's sitting on the wire to the repository? :P |
| 21:19.59 | rubik | hmm.. what do people use to move the blizz "you have a ticket open; ETA is 30 minutes" frame? |
| 21:20.35 | rubik | making great use of spamsentry means that frame is up pretty much 100% of the time... hah |
| 21:21.31 | Bam__ | im currently using FluidFrames.. but I used Visor2 before |
| 21:21.44 | Bam__ | both can do it |
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| 21:22.58 | rubik | cool; will check out, thanks |
| 21:23.13 | Bam__ | ever since MobileFrames stopped working, I haven't found a really good replacement though :/ |
| 21:23.26 | rubik | was going to try chuckg's moveFrames but doesn't look like it'd move it |
| 21:23.41 | rubik | but moves just about anything else, it seems: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5220.40 |
| 21:23.43 | Bam__ | ok haven't tried that |
| 21:25.00 | Bam__ | actually MobileFrames still works I just remember... but it was giving some "blocked warnings" which annoyed me |
| 21:25.03 | Kaelten | removed the cia hook |
| 21:25.14 | Kaelten | see if its faster |
| 21:25.16 | Kaelten | brb |
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| 21:29.27 | TheKarn | Kaelten, where'd you go? |
| 21:29.39 | nymbia | to the lake! |
| 21:29.48 | Matrix110 | oh noes! |
| 21:29.53 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 21:29.59 | Kaelten | rebooted into mac os |
| 21:30.06 | art3mis | uh oh! |
| 21:30.11 | TheKarn | eww |
| 21:30.15 | art3mis | hey kael you buy yer new machine yet? |
| 21:30.45 | art3mis | was gonna say you should get hardware thats intel osx compliant ;P |
| 21:30.55 | art3mis | then you cn have the "best" of all 3 worlds |
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| 21:31.06 | art3mis | hiya clad |
| 21:31.13 | TheKarn | art3mis, can you actually install OSX on a standard x86 box? |
| 21:31.19 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 21:31.25 | art3mis | if you get the right hardware and its the intel based one yeah |
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| 21:31.39 | TheKarn | i take it that means no AMD processor |
| 21:31.46 | NightHawkTheSane | nope, no amds |
| 21:31.49 | art3mis | yeah pretty sure amd is out ;P |
| 21:31.51 | clad|work | heyas art3mis |
| 21:31.59 | NightHawkTheSane | technically, not even non-mac intels will work |
| 21:32.01 | TheKarn | Apple suck balls. |
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| 21:32.07 | art3mis | thers a post a few months back of a guy that did it and what hardware osx supports in the pc world |
| 21:32.13 | Matrix110 | isnt it possible to run OS X in a VM? |
| 21:32.25 | TheKarn | why would you do that though Matrix |
| 21:32.25 | art3mis | yeah but not good |
| 21:32.35 | Kaelten | I have a imac here at work |
| 21:32.36 | Matrix110 | If you got a AMD CPU :P |
| 21:32.37 | TheKarn | if you wanted to run OSX you'd want to run it for performance. |
| 21:32.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Even if you could, it's not technically legal. |
| 21:32.42 | a-stray-cat | my GM runs osx on an intel box |
| 21:32.46 | Kaelten | but ya I ordered new computers for me and the wife |
| 21:32.52 | art3mis | too much is different for virtual mac stuff you're better off going the other way if yer gonna use vm in the first place |
| 21:32.57 | TheKarn | he's sending me a spare 8800gtx he bought for me |
| 21:33.02 | TheKarn | arnt you kaelten... |
| 21:33.04 | trh_ | omg lol.. did u read about the law-draft ("intellectual property protection act of 2007")? |
| 21:33.06 | art3mis | heh |
| 21:33.11 | art3mis | yeah |
| 21:33.13 | trh_ | that guy is nuts! |
| 21:33.14 | art3mis | thats gonna get shot down |
| 21:33.22 | Kaelten | er karn, I told you my wife would kill me |
| 21:33.23 | art3mis | there is no way in hell "attempted" piracy can work |
| 21:33.39 | Kaelten | trh_: ya, its kinda messed up |
| 21:33.42 | TheKarn | heh that's not _my_ problem :P |
| 21:33.47 | Xuerian | Oh, I'm sure it "Could" work |
| 21:34.04 | Xuerian | s/"Could" work/could "work" |
| 21:34.04 | art3mis | the computer industry would take a HUGE hit if they started procescuting jail terms on end users(more so than the mpaa riaa suits) |
| 21:34.19 | art3mis | and they arent about to let the govt gain that kind of control |
| 21:34.30 | Xuerian | Gravel ftw, on that subject. |
| 21:34.33 | art3mis | you can bet the EFF will be fighting that hand over fist from here to the end of time |
| 21:35.41 | art3mis | http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=21404202 <-- good band btw |
| 21:35.57 | art3mis | they're on par with lacuna coil, within temptation, in this moment, stolen babies |
| 21:36.06 | art3mis | chick fronted band |
| 21:36.20 | Kaelten | anyone able to write me a regex that would return the word label but not <label> or <label/> |
| 21:36.21 | Kaelten | ? |
| 21:36.22 | art3mis | who i got to hang out and smoke with after the lacuna coil concert btw ;P |
| 21:36.52 | Herio | metal k pretty? |
| 21:37.13 | TheKarn | /[^<]label[^/]?[^>]/ |
| 21:37.20 | TheKarn | heh wait |
| 21:37.35 | TheKarn | /[^<]label[^>\/]{1,2}/ |
| 21:37.42 | art3mis | we talk pretty ;P |
| 21:37.44 | art3mis | err me |
| 21:39.29 | Kaelten | awesome |
| 21:39.31 | Kaelten | thanks |
| 21:39.41 | Kaelten | that cut out 1.5k instances of the word label for me to check up on. |
| 21:39.59 | TheKarn | hmm just checking it and it shouldnt have done |
| 21:40.40 | Gngsk | ok, the animated gif of the day has been found: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1179264443043.gif |
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| 21:44.30 | TheKarn | (?<!\<)label(?!\/|\/\>) |
| 21:44.35 | TheKarn | that's a better regex |
| 21:44.53 | TheKarn | as long as the parser understands lookaheads and lookbehinds |
| 21:45.37 | Bam__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.56 | Kaelten | eclipse's search parser |
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| 21:46.11 | TheKarn | preg i think |
| 21:46.14 | TheKarn | but yeah |
| 21:46.22 | Bam__ | it ought to... it uses Java's regex I hope |
| 21:46.31 | TheKarn | (?<!\<)label(?!\/|\/\>) works better as it doesnt require the existance of a character before, and after "label" |
| 21:46.38 | TheKarn | and replaceing it would replace those chars aswell |
| 21:47.14 | Kaelten | heh I have 1.9k instances of the word that I have to check on. |
| 21:47.44 | Bam__ | are you on Mac? |
| 21:49.08 | TheKarn | whats the easiest way to level fishing and are there any mods i should use? |
| 21:49.39 | Bam__ | easiest is to stand at a newbie zone and just fish fish fish :P |
| 21:49.46 | TheKarn | [22:29] <@Kaelten> rebooted into mac os |
| 21:49.57 | Bam__ | but it won't give you any good fish ofc |
| 21:50.18 | TheKarn | are there any mods like the old FishingBuddy that saved you having to click on "fishing" each time |
| 21:50.19 | TheKarn | ? |
| 21:50.24 | KarlThePagan | no |
| 21:50.26 | Bam__ | FishingAce |
| 21:50.33 | KarlThePagan | hm really? |
| 21:50.46 | a-stray-cat | fishingbuddy still works |
| 21:50.47 | KarlThePagan | I guess I don't bother... I have my fishing hotkeyed ;) |
| 21:50.52 | a-stray-cat | you just have to double right click now |
| 21:51.01 | TheKarn | k |
| 21:51.06 | Bam__ | ah yes.. same with FishingAce |
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| 21:52.56 | trh_ | TheKarn: orgrimmar rocks for fishing if you're horde =) |
| 21:53.06 | TheKarn | what level can i reach there? |
| 21:53.09 | trh_ | TheKarn. even fished The ONE ring there =) |
| 21:53.17 | trh_ | TheKarn: 375 |
| 21:53.25 | TheKarn | how long will it take me? |
| 21:53.52 | trh_ | TheKarn: a while.. i think 0-300 took me a week with 2hours a evening or something ;) |
| 21:54.13 | TheKarn | would it be faster to lvl it elsewhere? |
| 21:54.27 | kergoth | i'm waiting till 2.1 to max mine |
| 21:54.27 | Bam__ | nope |
| 21:54.31 | kergoth | since they drop the cast time |
| 21:54.38 | Bam__ | oh nice |
| 21:54.52 | Bam__ | and you will always catch something, right? |
| 21:55.09 | kergoth | well, they can still get away, but the cast wont finish without a bite anymore |
| 21:55.16 | Bam__ | ah right |
| 21:57.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. |
| 21:57.13 | kebinusan | Anyone have problems with the wowhead talent pages causing firefox to eat a ton of cpu |
| 21:57.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Quartz blew up on me. |
| 21:57.27 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: take that! |
| 21:57.35 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: did you restart wow after updating? |
| 21:57.54 | kergoth | in my first heroic ever.. with my rogue.. |
| 21:57.55 | kergoth | ow. |
| 21:58.03 | ZealotOnAStick | I downloaded it for the first time today via WAU before I started WoW today. |
| 21:58.09 | Gokie | lol, which heroic |
| 21:58.21 | kergoth | slave pens, supposed to be easy, but 5k cleaves still hurt :( i need more sta gear |
| 21:58.28 | kergoth | my guild's just starting in kara, so we arent that well geared yet |
| 21:58.30 | ZealotOnAStick | I make a bandage, and boom. |
| 21:58.37 | TheKarn | Quartz_TradeskillMerge\TradeskillMerge.lua:67: AceHook-2.1: Attempt to hook secure method "UNIT_SPELLCAST_START". Use `SecureHook' or add `true' to the argument list to override. |
| 21:58.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Throws error (attempt to perform arithmetic on field |
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| 21:58.47 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: oh, i just fixed that 4 seconds ago |
| 21:58.48 | ZealotOnAStick | argh |
| 21:58.50 | TheKarn | Quartz_Mirror\Mirror.lua:395: Usage: <unnamed>:SetScale(scale) |
| 21:58.57 | Gngsk | kergoth, last boss drops nice rogue pants |
| 21:58.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Throws error (attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'w' (a nil value) |
| 21:59.04 | ZealotOnAStick | ok. What revision should I look for? |
| 21:59.10 | Gokie | hmm, SP probably is one of the better heroics to start with |
| 21:59.22 | nymbia | rofl |
| 21:59.36 | nymbia | TheKarn: which revision? |
| 21:59.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Threw 51 errors in like a half second, sort of impressive. And now there's a cast bar stuck on screen. |
| 22:00.08 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: yeah, there were errors in the OnUpdate func ;) |
| 22:00.34 | nymbia | lol |
| 22:00.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Is SVN still sucking ass on commits? |
| 22:00.41 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: naw |
| 22:00.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh. |
| 22:00.58 | ZealotOnAStick | CIA's dead. |
| 22:01.02 | nymbia | yup |
| 22:01.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyway, what rev should I look out for? |
| 22:01.34 | nymbia | the tradeskill stuff should be fixed in 35555 |
| 22:02.16 | Bam__ | ohh nice revision |
| 22:02.45 | nymbia | hell yeah :) |
| 22:02.46 | Bam__ | is there a price for committing revision 40.000? :) |
| 22:03.05 | nymbia | nope ;) |
| 22:03.11 | Bam__ | darn :/ |
| 22:04.04 | Bam__ | well ckk would probably win :P |
| 22:04.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm.. any healers here see much use for -threat trinkets (Jewel of Charismatic Mystique, etc)? |
| 22:04.43 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: no |
| 22:04.52 | NightHawkTheSane | alright |
| 22:05.01 | vhaarr | but I am a priest |
| 22:05.05 | vhaarr | so I have Fade |
| 22:05.08 | renchap | yes, many of druids in my guild uses these trinkets |
| 22:05.09 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
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| 22:12.32 | harldephin | can i add some lines (or size) to the default central upper message frame somehow ? |
| 22:12.50 | harldephin | 3 lines is a bit.. ironic.. |
| 22:13.02 | Industrial | UIErrorsFrame |
| 22:13.04 | Industrial | dont think so |
| 22:13.12 | nymbia | try setting the height |
| 22:13.24 | harldephin | height of what exactly ? |
| 22:13.28 | Industrial | UIErrorsFrame |
| 22:13.35 | harldephin | yea, but where and how |
| 22:13.37 | nymbia | i think its a scrollingchatframe but |
| 22:13.47 | Industrial | in a lua file, with an editor |
| 22:13.49 | Industrial | =D |
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| 22:13.58 | Gagorian | P.S. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irony |
| 22:13.59 | nymbia | ./script UIErrorsFrame:SetHeight(1000) |
| 22:15.05 | harldephin | nymbia: that actually worked.. thank you |
| 22:15.45 | harldephin | Gagorian: ;) |
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| 22:34.32 | stavmar_ | is there a FuBar addon for SWStats? |
| 22:34.40 | Gokie | yep |
| 22:34.58 | stavmar_ | what might the name be? |
| 22:35.11 | Gokie | SWStats2Fu |
| 22:35.31 | stavmar_ | thank you Gokie |
| 22:35.31 | Gokie | yw |
| 22:35.40 | stavmar_ | I am not seeing it on the SVN? |
| 22:36.00 | vhaarr | typeaheadfind > you |
| 22:36.37 | Gokie | uh, it might not have been updated in a long time |
| 22:36.43 | NightHawkTheSane | or, you know, even ctrl-f |
| 22:37.01 | nymbia | no it's there |
| 22:37.07 | stavmar_ | Ctrl-F on the WAU, that would be nice? |
| 22:37.07 | Gokie | ok yeah, it's on files.wowace.com |
| 22:37.16 | stavmar_ | ok got it, thanks again |
| 22:37.20 | Gokie | FuBar_SWStats2Fu actually |
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| 22:43.08 | Hjalte | Sometimes i really dislike Blizzard. Why can't they let us know friendly targets buff durations, get independent mob id's or any of the other things that would make WoW so much more smooth?! |
| 22:43.33 | art3mis | because then we could bot and make things like decursive ;P |
| 22:43.51 | art3mis | and the world would implode |
| 22:44.01 | art3mis | i think the former is more a concern for them ;P |
| 22:45.19 | Hjalte | Oh no, what a horrible deed it would be to let me know when to rebuff fortitude ;) |
| 22:45.30 | Bam__ | with all of the restrictions now in place, I think they could do it without that fear |
| 22:45.36 | KarlThePagan | they want 11yo's to yell at you over vent |
| 22:45.39 | KarlThePagan | blizzard loves drama |
| 22:45.44 | nymbia | Hjalte: you can see durations on stuff you cast on all targets in 2.1 |
| 22:45.45 | kergoth | lol |
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| 22:46.22 | Antiarc|Work | http://media.worldofwarcraft.com/blacktemple-trailer/blacktemple_en.html |
| 22:46.23 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 22:46.27 | Bam__ | nymbia: only on target and focus, I think? |
| 22:46.38 | Hjalte | nymbia, that sounds great! |
| 22:47.16 | nymbia | Bam__: it's implemented through new returns to UnitBuff and UnitDebuff, so i'd assume it works for any unit |
| 22:47.29 | Bam__ | that would be great |
| 22:49.08 | Bam__ | if only they would give us TargetUnit back when out of combat :( |
| 22:50.01 | nymbia | they had it like that for a while |
| 22:50.06 | nymbia | during beta |
| 22:50.11 | Bam__ | ok |
| 22:51.32 | nymbia | yeah, i dunno why they took it out. |
| 22:51.57 | Bam__ | perhaps too hard to control for them |
| 22:52.21 | Bam__ | but they can do it for other things... so who knows... |
| 22:54.25 | Daemona | i lol'd |
| 22:54.31 | Daemona | dev chat postponed |
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| 22:54.55 | Kaydeethree | ahaha |
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| 22:55.35 | art3mis | i dont know why everyone hates illidan so much |
| 22:55.45 | art3mis | he helped outland ;P |
| 22:55.59 | vhaarr | "Because of technical difficulties." = It turns out 3 of their developers had never used IRC before. |
| 22:56.01 | kebinusan | He's Chaotic Evil! |
| 22:56.08 | Daemona | ... |
| 22:56.14 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the dominance of the burning legion was a real improvement over the existing fel orc rule. |
| 22:56.15 | Daemona | whats so hard about that |
| 22:56.16 | Kaydeethree | I'm assuming they were idiots and tried to use the java client |
| 22:56.29 | art3mis | exactly ;P |
| 22:56.34 | art3mis | its much better |
| 22:56.37 | Daemona | install mIRC, /server blub.bla.com, /join #me |
| 22:56.48 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, dripping sarcasm does not translate well through text. |
| 22:56.51 | art3mis | without illidan outland would have been completely destroyed |
| 22:56.54 | sbu | dev chat? |
| 22:56.59 | Kaydeethree | delayed |
| 22:57.02 | art3mis | as would azeroth ;P |
| 22:57.04 | sbu | what dev chat? :o |
| 22:57.10 | art3mis | illidan is a hero! |
| 22:57.15 | art3mis | as great as any |
| 22:57.18 | Daemona | you dont read www.worldofwarcraft.com often do you? |
| 22:57.24 | art3mis | well not as great as hellscream |
| 22:57.25 | sbu | nope :) |
| 22:57.31 | art3mis | but pretty close |
| 22:57.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
| 22:57.39 | art3mis | grom is still the man |
| 22:57.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok, I like the logout timer on the mirror bar. |
| 22:58.01 | ZealotOnAStick | But I can't seem to get Quartz to take settings. It keeps reverting to numbers it feels like and throwing Waterfall errors. |
| 22:59.07 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: which options? |
| 22:59.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Mainly height and width on Player, Mirror, Target bar. |
| 22:59.52 | ZealotOnAStick | I lock them back and it reverts to whatever it feels like. I try typing in specific numbers in the fields next to the sliders and it throws errors. |
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| 23:00.17 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: yup, that's my bad, one sec. |
| 23:00.39 | Hjalte | Is the dev chat on now, or can i read a transcript of it somewhere? |
| 23:00.54 | Kaydeethree | http://ace.pastey.net/31389 |
| 23:01.00 | Daemona | dev chat is canceled |
| 23:01.07 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm sure when it's finished there'll be a transcript available |
| 23:01.14 | Kaydeethree | ^ transcript |
| 23:01.16 | Daemona | postponed to "tomorrorw or next week" |
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| 23:02.08 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/c217.html |
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| 23:02.56 | SHIFT_nismo | Q: If i am creating a mod that adds information to an item tooltip, and i also want to make it compatible with other mods like RatingBuster, do i need to hook events that Rating Buster calls? |
| 23:03.15 | art3mis | roll hax!!!! http://www.xkcd.com/c221.html |
| 23:04.03 | NightHawkTheSane | rereading xkcd archives, are we? :P |
| 23:04.05 | Bam__ | SHIFT_nismo: in general you just need to hook GameTooltip and hope other addons do the same |
| 23:04.09 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: fixed |
| 23:04.38 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: er, maybe not. |
| 23:04.48 | Bam__ | SHIFT_nismo: but I guess it depends what you mean by "compatible" |
| 23:05.06 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: er, yeah it is, i just hadn't reloaded ;) |
| 23:05.19 | SHIFT_nismo | Bam__: I noticed alot of mods hook onto events fired in other mods |
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| 23:06.12 | Bam__ | SHIFT_nismo: hmm... can't quite think of any :) |
| 23:06.26 | vhaarr | SHIFT_nismo: You hook OnTooltipSetItem. |
| 23:06.30 | vhaarr | And you're done. |
| 23:07.26 | trh_ | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869183917758574879 rofl :) |
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| 23:08.48 | Bam__ | that's true.. if you just need to know what item the tooltip shows, that's the easiest way |
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| 23:09.37 | vhaarr | Bam__: You can add stuff to the tooltip in that hook. |
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| 23:10.02 | Bam__ | vhaarr: yea that was basically what I meant to say :P |
| 23:10.24 | nymbia | well the only exception to that |
| 23:10.34 | nymbia | is if you need the know the quantity of the item |
| 23:10.35 | Bam__ | vhaarr: was just considering if you need the item count too... then it's not enough |
| 23:10.44 | nymbia | and it doesnt sound like he does |
| 23:10.55 | Bam__ | and nymbia is a faster typist than I am :D |
| 23:11.11 | nymbia | ;) |
| 23:11.55 | Bam__ | but apparently we overloaded him with information... he is stunned :D |
| 23:12.23 | nymbia | haha |
| 23:13.21 | nymbia | SHIFT_nismo: take a look at mendeleev and/or statstain, they both hook the tooltip in the way you want to |
| 23:14.37 | SHIFT_nismo | not stunned |
| 23:14.42 | SHIFT_nismo | watching that video |
| 23:14.52 | SHIFT_nismo | trh_ posted |
| 23:15.19 | Bam__ | lol ok... well hope you got your answer |
| 23:15.53 | nymbia | or 5 of them ;) |
| 23:15.53 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 23:16.02 | SHIFT_nismo | yea heh |
| 23:16.16 | Bam__ | many chefs ruin the food |
| 23:16.17 | SHIFT_nismo | i am hooking onto OnTooltipSetItem now |
| 23:16.19 | Bam__ | .. no wait... |
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| 23:23.39 | NightHawkTheSane | huh.. list-style-type: lower-greek; is amusing |
| 23:24.01 | trh_ | lol.. misread it to "lower-geek" and wondered what it'd be ;) |
| 23:26.26 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceNf-11-ddI |
| 23:26.27 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 23:26.28 | sedatedChipmunk | an ubuntu user! |
| 23:27.06 | onuris` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKEcz_OTTBk |
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| 23:30.11 | trh_ | oh.. something new (1.5.) from myndflame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctVrpQ-orss |
| 23:32.04 | CAL|Smeltn | holy crap onuris |
| 23:32.09 | CAL|Smeltn | I want that version of linux |
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| 23:34.20 | _ions | Anyone here? |
| 23:34.33 | trh_ | onuris`: nice desktop, if you don't want to do anything else besides making videos of it ;) |
| 23:35.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah most the features of beryl have 0 usabililty and are just fluff |
| 23:35.34 | CAL|Smeltn | its to make it look like Vista |
| 23:35.39 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:35.47 | Arrowmaster | beryl has been around before vista |
| 23:35.49 | CAL|Smeltn | and in all actuality [7:34:pm] <trh_> onuris`: nice desktop, if you don't want to do anything else besides making videos of it ;) |
| 23:35.54 | CAL|Smeltn | is exactly the same thing as Vista |
| 23:35.57 | NightHawkTheSane | it's to make itlook like osx, obviously ;) |
| 23:36.22 | CAL|Smeltn | but does beryl suck or somethng? |
| 23:36.33 | hyperChipmunk | not really |
| 23:36.36 | Arrowmaster | and that video doesnt even have good desktop switching |
| 23:36.38 | hyperChipmunk | i wouldn't use it |
| 23:36.43 | onuris` | that vid isnt very good |
| 23:36.50 | onuris` | but berly is pretty leet |
| 23:36.50 | hyperChipmunk | but it's way-spiff |
| 23:36.52 | onuris` | beryl* |
| 23:37.23 | onuris` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUp0chPIteY |
| 23:37.26 | Arrowmaster | one of the matrix beryl vids is better imho |
| 23:37.27 | onuris` | thats a better vid |
| 23:38.18 | NightHawkTheSane | yea, ive seen that vid |
| 23:38.46 | CAL|Smeltn | what is the video |
| 23:38.49 | CAL|Smeltn | playing in the background |
| 23:38.53 | CAL|Smeltn | the comedian? |
| 23:39.38 | kergoth | some of beryl's features are incredibly useful to productivity.. the rest is just eye candy |
| 23:39.43 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: Quartz-0.1.0.35488\Latency\Latency.lua:89: attempt to perform arithmetic on upvalue 'sendTime' (a nil value) when using the orb to go between silvermoon and undercity |
| 23:39.53 | CAL|Smeltn | I wouldnt mind putting it on my laptop |
| 23:39.56 | CAL|Smeltn | if it would run good |
| 23:40.00 | onuris` | whats a decent minimap mod? |
| 23:40.02 | _ions | Whats the most feature rich bag addon out? I thought SanityBags would be good but its not really finished and doesn't work to well for me as is |
| 23:40.06 | trh_ | kergoth: but the ratio productive features vs default-enabled features (in most distributions) is bad :( |
| 23:40.07 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: weird, thanks |
| 23:40.15 | kergoth | the compose like dealy, the zooming, the way alt-tab makes the windows transparent and highlights the one you're about to switch to... the hotkey to hide the windows to see the desktop without minimizing them.. |
| 23:40.26 | Arrowmaster | also getting an error with icehud when using the orb |
| 23:40.32 | CAL|Smeltn | I mean my wife uses the laptop for getting on line |
| 23:40.33 | CAL|Smeltn | myspace |
| 23:40.36 | CAL|Smeltn | and checking email |
| 23:40.37 | kergoth | course out of hte box i think it enables wobbly and stuff :) which i dont mind, just need to be aware of the rest |
| 23:40.37 | trh_ | kergoth: i like the grouping of windows to move them together |
| 23:40.55 | onuris` | smeltn: then ubuntu is 100% perfect |
| 23:40.58 | onuris` | if thats all you need |
| 23:41.09 | hyperChipmunk | i group with your mom and we move togethr |
| 23:41.14 | CAL|Smeltn | yah I would like to check it out |
| 23:41.23 | trh_ | although linux on a laptop might give you nonstop-headaches |
| 23:41.33 | trh_ | due to acpi and apic crap |
| 23:42.03 | Arrowmaster | theres only issues with older laptops |
| 23:42.15 | _ions | looking for a bag addon that has: filters, catagories, and good visual options any ideas? |
| 23:42.18 | CAL|Smeltn | its a IBM thinkpad |
| 23:42.27 | trh_ | CAL|Smeltn: got good chances it'll work |
| 23:42.41 | onuris` | what model |
| 23:42.53 | hyperChipmunk | my mom uses ubuntu on her laptop, actually |
| 23:43.12 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: should be fixed, let me know if it's not |
| 23:43.21 | CAL|Smeltn | I actually have a cd |
| 23:43.24 | CAL|Smeltn | a friend gave me |
| 23:43.34 | onuris` | ubuntu 6.06? |
| 23:43.34 | CAL|Smeltn | Ubuntu V6.06 LTS for your PC |
| 23:43.39 | Bruners | _ions: baggins |
| 23:43.52 | trh_ | CAL|Smeltn: get 7.04 it works alot better |
| 23:44.13 | CAL|Smeltn | would I be better of installing and updating? |
| 23:44.19 | CAL|Smeltn | or just downloading 7.04 |
| 23:44.23 | _ions | I would but its so ugly with the text and not being able to hide the stuff and the weird visual itemslot problems |
| 23:44.37 | trh_ | CAL|Smeltn: just downloading is easier =) |
| 23:44.41 | nymbia | CAL|Smeltn: just download 7.04 |
| 23:44.47 | trh_ | CAL|Smeltn: the installer works alot nicer in 7.04 |
| 23:44.55 | CAL|Smeltn | k |
| 23:44.58 | CAL|Smeltn | now my question is |
| 23:45.03 | CAL|Smeltn | for my wife and myself |
| 23:45.09 | CAL|Smeltn | will this be easy to figure out? |
| 23:45.20 | onuris` | if you are semi-comp literate, yes |
| 23:45.22 | trh_ | it's pretty easy if you use firefox/thunderbird already |
| 23:45.32 | onuris` | its mostly gui based now |
| 23:45.47 | art3mis | http://chsalmon.club.fr/index.php?en/Yod-m-3d-about |
| 23:45.52 | art3mis | thats pretty neat |
| 23:46.05 | trh_ | although installing graphic card stuff with special configurations (like switching resolution on docking station and stuff) might be complicated |
| 23:46.28 | CAL|Smeltn | yeah mine is a standard IBM thinkpad |
| 23:46.34 | CAL|Smeltn | like 1.3ghz or something |
| 23:47.00 | trh_ | ya.. as i said, as long as you use it without alot extra periphals and stuff it shouldn't be a big problem |
| 23:47.12 | CAL|Smeltn | as long as the wireless reads |
| 23:47.14 | CAL|Smeltn | we are good to go |
| 23:47.24 | CAL|Smeltn | do I need to download specific drivers for stuff? |
| 23:47.31 | CAL|Smeltn | or should it find and install on its own? |
| 23:47.39 | trh_ | the wireless is integrated? |
| 23:47.49 | trh_ | from ibm, or bought extra? |
| 23:47.49 | onuris` | if its onboard you should be fine |
| 23:47.55 | onuris` | but check the 3rd party |
| 23:47.57 | onuris` | its flakey |
| 23:47.58 | CAL|Smeltn | its ibm |
| 23:48.01 | CAL|Smeltn | came with laptop |
| 23:48.06 | trh_ | CAL|Smeltn: you should be fine then |
| 23:48.11 | CAL|Smeltn | sweet |
| 23:48.15 | onuris` | my linksys wireless adapters dont work in linux |
| 23:48.16 | CAL|Smeltn | I am kinda excited to try it |
| 23:48.19 | trh_ | CAL|Smeltn: btw: you can just insert the 7.04 ubuntu cd and look at a live system after starting from it |
| 23:49.16 | trh_ | CAL|Smeltn: it basically loads every driver and you see if it works |
| 23:49.16 | CAL|Smeltn | AHH |
| 23:49.16 | CAL|Smeltn | sweet |
| 23:49.17 | CAL|Smeltn | so you really dont install |
| 23:49.17 | CAL|Smeltn | you just "test spin" |
| 23:49.17 | trh_ | ya.. but it takes awhile to start from cd and you can't make permanent changes ;) |
| 23:49.18 | trh_ | but it's nice for trying it out |
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| 23:49.21 | SHIFT_nismo | ion: try ArkInventory |
| 23:49.26 | pdpi | hey |
| 23:49.28 | CAL|Smeltn | what about themes and such |
| 23:49.32 | CAL|Smeltn | does it come with good ones to start? |
| 23:49.54 | onuris` | i didnt like arkinventory very much |
| 23:49.58 | onuris` | yes |
| 23:49.58 | CAL|Smeltn | and what about the bottom "rklauncher" does that come standard? |
| 23:50.00 | onuris` | for the most part |
| 23:50.04 | onuris` | but theres 50000000000 gnome themes |
| 23:50.07 | trh_ | CAL|Smeltn: there are some preinstalled, but i didnt really looked into it |
| 23:50.28 | onuris` | ubuntu uses gnome instead of KDE |
| 23:50.34 | pdpi | gnome themes? not only are there loads, but they're also incredibly easy to customize |
| 23:50.55 | onuris` | any got suggestions for streamlined minimap mods? |
| 23:50.59 | pdpi | (quite unlike KDE, I haven't yet figured out how to *install* themes, let alone changing them) |
| 23:51.01 | trh_ | pdpi: if they don't backfire.. like most gnome inventions ;) |
| 23:51.08 | onuris` | i hate kde too :) |
| 23:51.11 | pdpi | meh, never backfired on me |
| 23:51.17 | CAL|Smeltn | I remember hearing about when you install |
| 23:51.18 | pdpi | I don't hate KDE, no no. |
| 23:51.24 | CAL|Smeltn | it gives you the option of KDE or Gnome |
| 23:51.29 | pdpi | Not Ubuntu |
| 23:51.29 | CAL|Smeltn | is that true? and if so which should I choose |
| 23:51.30 | trh_ | pdpi: you didn't ever use gnomish engineering stuff? ;) |
| 23:51.33 | hyperChipmunk | kubuntu |
| 23:51.35 | pdpi | ah lol |
| 23:51.36 | hyperChipmunk | us kde |
| 23:51.38 | onuris` | kubuntu = kde |
| 23:51.41 | onuris` | ubuntu = gnome |
| 23:51.44 | CAL|Smeltn | ahhh |
| 23:52.03 | pdpi | the original is Ubuntu. IMO, it's much better integrated than Kubuntu. Others might tell you otherwise though |
| 23:52.23 | trh_ | and you can still install kde after you installed gnome with ubuntu |
| 23:53.37 | pdpi | and vice versa |
| 23:54.21 | pdpi | There's also Xubuntu (with XDE), but that's basically the "Ubuntu Light" version. A much lighter (and less feature packed) UI. |
| 23:55.01 | Arrowmaster | thats what i installed on my 600mhz p3 laptop |
| 23:55.08 | pdpi | Makes sense |
| 23:55.26 | pdpi | for that sort of machine I go for straight debian with fluxbox/enlightenment |
| 23:55.51 | aen` | debian for sure |
| 23:55.53 | aen` | on shitty machiens |
| 23:55.56 | aen` | machines* |
| 23:56.07 | Arrowmaster | i had debian installed on it before that, just wanted to try out unbuntu |
| 23:56.13 | pdpi | aha |
| 23:57.00 | Arrowmaster | although i had lots of issues with the graphics card in debian |
| 23:57.54 | Arrowmaster | but i had setup that laptop before debian switched to x.org and the graphics card is very rare |
| 23:58.13 | hyperChipmunk | debian works well with those machines because it was released around the same time |
| 23:58.33 | pdpi | actually, debian has been releasing a lot more frequently lately |
| 23:58.43 | hyperChipmunk | shush |
| 23:58.43 | aen` | same with opensuse |
| 23:58.45 | trh_ | debian 4.0 is quite nice |
| 23:58.46 | Arrowmaster | took forever to go from 3.0 to 3.1 |
| 23:58.47 | pdpi | they're still stalwarts for stability above anything |
| 23:58.58 | pdpi | well, 3.0 to 3.1 was legendary, yes |
| 23:59.04 | hyperChipmunk | don't deny me my debian rips |
| 23:59.05 | pdpi | but they moved on fast from there |
| 23:59.33 | NightHawkTheSane | man, i remember when they finally released 3.1 |
| 23:59.36 | pdpi | not everyone does the Ubuntu bi-yearly release pace |
| 23:59.51 | NightHawkTheSane | I would have marked it on my calendar, if i had a calendar. |
