| 00:00.06 | sylvanaar | yeah, i was never able to pin point a single cause for slow loading by my wow client other than competition between loading of the mpq file and doing the compilation of addons as they were loaded all off the same thread |
| 00:00.09 | Mikk | secure frames are the one major reason i've been putting it off |
| 00:00.24 | Bam__ | and while you are at it, write a full documentation for attributes too :P |
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| 00:01.24 | Mikk | sylvanaar: tbh, they should keep pre-compiled copies of stuff in RAM |
| 00:01.24 | Mikk | making reloads faster |
| 00:01.31 | Mikk | *CRY* >.< |
| 00:01.34 | cladhaire | have you seen 2.1 |
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| 00:01.47 | Mikk | did i mention that i'll gladly invite anyone to help out with wowbench? =) |
| 00:01.47 | cladhaire | its speedy as all hell cause of the script changes, and the allocator changes |
| 00:02.02 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 00:02.03 | Mikk | script changes? |
| 00:02.04 | ulic | what does it do? |
| 00:02.08 | cladhaire | Mikk: I converted it to be 5.1 compat |
| 00:02.12 | cladhaire | but deleted it afterwards |
| 00:02.14 | Bam__ | yea Iriel said something about a 50% speed up? |
| 00:02.22 | cladhaire | more than that but yeah |
| 00:02.27 | cladhaire | made some nice changes |
| 00:02.35 | Mikk | i can see how fiddling with allocators could help hugely |
| 00:02.42 | Mikk | but.. "script changes"? |
| 00:02.43 | cladhaire | 50% was referring to the amount of memory being used by the default UI |
| 00:02.45 | cladhaire | yes |
| 00:02.46 | Mikk | what does that mean :> |
| 00:02.49 | Bam__ | well if they were used poorly before :P |
| 00:02.49 | cladhaire | we removed the creation of 30,000 closures |
| 00:02.51 | cladhaire | or somethign like that |
| 00:03.03 | Mikk | ah |
| 00:03.03 | cladhaire | those script changes |
| 00:03.11 | cladhaire | they're now shared from a template |
| 00:03.15 | cladhaire | rather than recreated |
| 00:03.20 | Garoun | bleh, I gotta go through my UI and find the slowdowns in loadtime :/ |
| 00:03.21 | cladhaire | took a bunch of changes to the error handling |
| 00:03.23 | cladhaire | but it was nice. |
| 00:03.33 | Mikk | Garoun: Embedded libraries |
| 00:03.38 | Bam__ | the way to impress customers: Make a poorly optimized program deliberatly, then optimize it when they ask for it :P |
| 00:03.39 | Garoun | it literally takes me 5min to load :/ |
| 00:03.47 | Mikk | Embedded libraries |
| 00:03.59 | Garoun | you mean unembedded or embedded :P |
| 00:04.16 | Mikk | The reason for the slowness would be having them loaded multiple times inside each addon |
| 00:04.34 | Garoun | so you mean I should look to unembed them :) |
| 00:04.38 | Mikk | Sec.. I'll give you my lib nuker batch file |
| 00:04.40 | Mikk | Aye |
| 00:04.49 | Garoun | garoun@gmail.com |
| 00:05.02 | cladhaire | put space before yoru email |
| 00:05.05 | cladhaire | purl won't put it in the log :P |
| 00:05.23 | cladhaire | helps to cut down on spam |
| 00:05.23 | Garoun | doh |
| 00:05.23 | Garoun | will do :) |
| 00:05.23 | Gnarfoz | to late now :P |
| 00:05.23 | Mikk | too late, you've been pwnd :> |
| 00:05.23 | Bam__ | tooo late :D |
| 00:05.24 | Garoun | yeah I know |
| 00:05.33 | Garoun | oh well, it's gmail |
| 00:05.40 | Mikk | or, even better, never put your email in clear channels, always whisper |
| 00:05.44 | Bam__ | yea they have fairly good spam filters |
| 00:06.07 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/cleanace.bat |
| 00:06.14 | vhaarr | http://marius.scurtescu.com/node/85 - SVN scripts for nautilus |
| 00:06.16 | vhaarr | pretty nice |
| 00:06.23 | Mikk | Note that this ONLY nukes stuff inside addons |
| 00:06.31 | Mikk | You'll have to install standalone copies yourself |
| 00:06.41 | Mikk | Like StandAloneLibraries |
| 00:06.44 | sylvanaar | there was actually a slowdown related files listed in the toc but not found on disk. even though the error log is not written to until the end of the loadint process. |
| 00:06.50 | Garoun | yeah not a problem there |
| 00:07.04 | Garoun | mikk that is |
| 00:07.07 | Mikk | oki |
| 00:07.19 | Garoun | I haven't sat down and did a bunch of debugging yet |
| 00:07.55 | evulhotdog | whats wowbench |
| 00:07.55 | Garoun | sat down and done |
| 00:08.04 | Garoun | grammer sigh |
| 00:08.06 | Mikk | evulhotdog: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench |
| 00:08.27 | Bam__ | wowbench is the ultimate testing tool that Mikk is going to update very soon :P |
| 00:08.34 | Mikk | hm |
| 00:08.35 | Mikk | ~wowbench |
| 00:08.38 | purl | wowbench is, like, at http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench |
| 00:08.41 | Mikk | heh |
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| 00:08.50 | Bam__ | ~clap |
| 00:08.53 | purl | it has been said that clap is "clip clap clop everyone claps file[laptop]'s amazing dancing and bkw_'s amazing singing" |
| 00:08.53 | evulhotdog | i would test it if you wanted me to |
| 00:09.02 | evulhotdog | but i dont know what to test... |
| 00:09.09 | Garoun | nice batch Mikk :) |
| 00:09.09 | sylvanaar | also the total number of files itself creates some overhead as they build a table of all files then use it later as they load the addons (ie they dont try to read files that arent there) |
| 00:09.41 | Mikk | purl, no, wowbench is a WoW API emulator used for development purposes. Whenever Mikk gets it upgraded, anyway. See http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench |
| 00:09.43 | purl | Mikk: okay |
| 00:09.44 | Garoun | I never was able to verify if the number of files in the SavedVariables dir had anything to do withload time |
| 00:10.17 | Mikk | Garoun: interesting theory |
| 00:10.18 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats another thing, those are *rewritten* at the start |
| 00:10.26 | Bam__ | I got a big Rake file for updating.. works well too |
| 00:10.39 | Mikk | wth is Rake? o.O |
| 00:10.44 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34917 10Aloft/ (8 files in 6 dirs): |
| 00:10.44 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 00:10.44 | CIA-23 | - Added Polymorph timer bar module. |
| 00:10.44 | Mikk | ~rake |
| 00:10.53 | nymbia | sylvanaar: you're kidding O.o |
| 00:10.54 | Bam__ | Ruby Make-like utility |
| 00:11.10 | sylvanaar | they are read in then written back out afaik |
| 00:11.31 | Mikk | buh |
| 00:11.40 | Bam__ | I'm a Ruby fan :P |
| 00:12.15 | art3mis | wow mikk very nice job |
| 00:12.21 | kergoth | polymorph timer bar on the nameplate? huh |
| 00:12.28 | sylvanaar | i suppose i could check out the ptr client and see if it does anything different |
| 00:12.50 | pastamancer | oh, have I got some scary perl code for you Mikk! |
| 00:12.51 | Garoun | because, does wow only attempt to load/build savedvariable files if an addon is asking for it, or does it parse the entire folder and then pick/choose |
| 00:12.54 | Bam__ | it's *not* Perl :P |
| 00:13.08 | Bam__ | wouldnt touch Perl either :P |
| 00:13.23 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: certainly looks like it ;> |
| 00:13.31 | kergoth | i use perl for oneliner text manipulation, thats about it |
| 00:13.32 | sylvanaar | saved variables are loaded for every addon in one pass |
| 00:13.39 | Mikk | kergoth: i use awk for that :> |
| 00:13.55 | kergoth | the extent of my awk skills = | awk '{print $3}' |
| 00:13.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:14.06 | Garoun | so any sv file that doesn't have a corresponding addon doesn'tget parsed/loaded? Sylvanaar |
| 00:14.06 | kergoth | sed i know well though |
| 00:14.15 | sylvanaar | right |
| 00:14.22 | sylvanaar | but its enumerated |
| 00:14.23 | pastamancer | Mikk: http://eqitems.13th-floor.org/misc/itemhash.pl.txt |
| 00:14.27 | Bam__ | I dont want to know arcane tools :P |
| 00:14.36 | kergoth | Mikk: that's disturbing |
| 00:14.37 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:14.38 | Garoun | ok, good, then that means my massive amount of variable lua's shouldn't be a problem :P |
| 00:14.46 | kergoth | almost as much as those crazy people putting irc clients and web browsers and shit in emacs |
| 00:14.57 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 00:15.03 | pastamancer | emacs still won't give me a backrub :( |
| 00:15.04 | cladhaire | *whistle innocently* |
| 00:15.28 | sylvanaar | but after your addon loads its sv's ther are written back to the disk as i recall this process was slow |
| 00:15.36 | Bam__ | Hippie-Expand is the greatest though :P |
| 00:15.38 | chutwig | any crazy germans in here? |
| 00:16.13 | sylvanaar | also another reason loading was slow is that too many of the file operations could not be handled by the file cache |
| 00:17.04 | Mikk | hmm... wonder if blizz would be willing to hire a perf-anal swede for a month or so |
| 00:17.27 | Bam__ | hire? |
| 00:17.41 | Bam__ | thought they expected all work done for free :P |
| 00:17.46 | Mikk | haha |
| 00:17.46 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 00:17.53 | Mikk | aye they're certainly getting a lot of it |
| 00:18.09 | Bam__ | yup brilliant business model.. gotta give them that |
| 00:18.18 | Mikk | but erm i draw the line at Lua myself |
| 00:19.08 | Bam__ | do we ever actually hear from the "real" developers on the forum? |
| 00:19.17 | cladhaire | define "Developers" |
| 00:19.34 | Bam__ | those that sit down in the basement drinking colo and eating pizza :P |
| 00:19.38 | Mikk | doubt we've seen any of the C slaves in the forums |
| 00:19.44 | cladhaire | slouken |
| 00:19.49 | Mikk | well yeah |
| 00:19.52 | Bam__ | but is he a developer? |
| 00:19.55 | Mikk | but he's not a proper slave :> |
| 00:19.57 | cladhaire | yes. |
| 00:19.59 | cladhaire | he's not a slave |
| 00:20.02 | cladhaire | but he's a developer |
| 00:20.04 | Bam__ | I thought he was more of a desinger and forum communicator |
| 00:20.12 | cladhaire | no, nothing of the sort |
| 00:20.16 | Mikk | nah he hacks UI plenty |
| 00:20.16 | Bam__ | ok |
| 00:20.50 | Mikk | mostly C engine <> Lua engine interface stuff |
| 00:20.51 | cladhaire | he doesn't code the UI :P |
| 00:20.53 | cladhaire | aye |
| 00:21.03 | cladhaire | he does handle the lua scripting engine |
| 00:21.04 | cladhaire | and pet ai |
| 00:21.06 | cladhaire | among other things |
| 00:21.10 | Mikk | oh, pet ai too |
| 00:21.13 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: crazy enough to still be awake even tho I have to get up in 4 hours, yes |
| 00:21.50 | chutwig | Gnarfoz: never mind i was looking for a translation of a skill name but i found it |
| 00:22.04 | Gnarfoz | k |
| 00:22.15 | Bam__ | and now we soon need Russian translations too :P |
| 00:22.16 | Gnarfoz | would have probably just had to guess anyway, I play enGB since the dawn of time |
| 00:22.46 | ckknight | Bam__: really? |
| 00:23.04 | Bam__ | ckknight: so I heard.. WoW will be translated to Russian |
| 00:23.10 | Mikk | haven't the russians stolen the server software and taken it apart for "educational purposes" yes? =) |
| 00:23.14 | ckknight | lousy Ruskies |
| 00:23.16 | Mikk | yet* |
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| 00:23.55 | Bam__ | I wonder why there isn't an Italian one yet... |
| 00:24.20 | Bam__ | they could surely use one lol |
| 00:25.21 | ckknight | ugh |
| 00:25.23 | ckknight | just learn English |
| 00:25.33 | Gnarfoz | NO U |
| 00:25.39 | ckknight | I do know English |
| 00:25.46 | Bam__ | not the Italians mate... forget it :P |
| 00:26.05 | Gnarfoz | we should create a meme answer to "NO U" |
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| 00:26.35 | Bam__ | they cluster together in their own guilds on the EU servers usually |
| 00:27.10 | NightHawkTheSane | you mean like mexicans on american servers? |
| 00:27.32 | Bam__ | lol dunno im from Europe.. you got lots of Mexicans playing? |
| 00:27.44 | Bruners | speaking of 02:29:24 [1] <Tkblakker>: CERCO GUILD ITALIANA ... ??? |
| 00:27.53 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 00:28.13 | NightHawkTheSane | depends on the server, i guess, but on Hakkar there's a few rather large spanish speaking guilds |
| 00:28.48 | pastamancer | the quebecois tend to have their own guilds too |
| 00:28.57 | Bam__ | dont get me wrong.. it's fine by me that they do it |
| 00:29.01 | Bam__ | cant blame them |
| 00:29.04 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, except the difference is no one likes people from quebec |
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| 00:29.15 | pastamancer | ~rimshot |
| 00:29.26 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 00:29.26 | hyperChipmunk | not even people from quebec |
| 00:29.26 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 00:29.35 | NightHawkTheSane | nice timing, purl |
| 00:29.59 | hyperChipmunk | he just thought mine was funnier |
| 00:30.12 | Bam__ | I just personally wouldn't dream of being in an all Danish guild :P |
| 00:30.25 | allen | would be a weird dream to have |
| 00:30.36 | allen | you'd know you were pretty addicted anyway |
| 00:30.40 | Bruners | i prefer using english |
| 00:31.22 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34918 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - fontstrings now have an outline. |
| 00:31.33 | Bam__ | yea it's odd talking about wow in your own language.. I can't find the words lol |
| 00:31.37 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: <3 |
| 00:33.10 | ckknight | Ich habe du gepwnen |
| 00:33.18 | sylvanaar | die verdamfte Deutche sprache |
| 00:33.24 | sylvanaar | you know who said that? |
| 00:33.30 | ckknight | ...no |
| 00:33.31 | sylvanaar | excuse the spelling |
| 00:33.41 | sylvanaar | mark twain |
| 00:33.54 | ckknight | oh, right |
| 00:34.11 | ckknight | I know it by its English name, is all |
| 00:34.23 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: "ich habe dich gepwnt" ;) |
| 00:34.34 | ckknight | meh. |
| 00:34.35 | sylvanaar | gepwnt |
| 00:34.37 | sylvanaar | rofl |
| 00:34.41 | ckknight | learn English |
| 00:34.44 | ckknight | that's God's language |
| 00:35.02 | Gnarfoz | I'd wager a guess he needs no language |
| 00:35.08 | sylvanaar | is that real german wowslang? |
| 00:35.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ... er, wouldn't that be latin, if anything? |
| 00:35.10 | Bam__ | yet only about 400 million speak English in the world :P |
| 00:35.15 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe hebrew. |
| 00:35.16 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: nope, hebrew |
| 00:35.19 | pastamancer | yeah, everyone knows the bible was written in english :P |
| 00:35.23 | kergoth | TypeError: CXX : Error creating object of type N2Py7SeqBaseINS_4CharEEE |
| 00:35.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: yeah, next guess ;) |
| 00:35.27 | kergoth | wow, python really doesnt like me anymore |
| 00:35.28 | Gnarfoz | or some other weird-ass old stuff |
| 00:35.30 | kergoth | wtf |
| 00:35.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, aramaic! |
| 00:35.56 | ckknight | actually according to Talmud, God and the angels have their own language |
| 00:36.11 | ckknight | which was apparently shared by all humans before the fall of Babel |
| 00:36.39 | Gnarfoz | Talmud, who is he? Jesus' not-so-well-known little brother? ;D |
| 00:36.43 | Necrathex | Kalimag |
| 00:36.44 | Gnarfoz | (yeah I know :p) |
| 00:36.55 | Gnarfoz | Necrathex: ergh go away :\ |
| 00:37.02 | Necrathex | :p |
| 00:37.09 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34919 10Aloft/Modules/Polymorph.lua: Aloft: Polymorph - more safety checks.. |
| 00:37.09 | Gnarfoz | those damn elementals there hit for ~120k a hit |
| 00:37.11 | Necrathex | it's a nice language :p |
| 00:37.18 | Thrae | Any network gurus around? I'm trying to figure out what "network based flow control" may mean. |
| 00:37.32 | pastamancer | QoS and/or packet shaping |
| 00:37.43 | Thrae | I can't figure out what that applies to -- my system, my specific path to the NDT server, or the Comcast network. |
| 00:37.55 | Thrae | I'm running speed tests against a NDT server |
| 00:38.11 | pastamancer | NDT? |
| 00:38.18 | Gnarfoz | sometimes House freaks me out :> |
| 00:38.29 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: the needle in the eye thing? |
| 00:38.37 | Thrae | pastamancer: http://ciseweb100.cise-nsf.gov:7123/ <-- government provided network diagnostic servers |
| 00:38.47 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Yeah, needle in the eye for me too |
| 00:39.01 | Thrae | They've done that twice, maybe three times...still creeps me out |
| 00:39.01 | Gnarfoz | is that in season 3? |
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| 00:39.08 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Last ep. had it again |
| 00:39.12 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 00:39.46 | Bam__ | ~ebcdic |
| 00:39.48 | pastamancer | that's right up there with the exploding nutsack for me, but I hate needles with a passion |
| 00:40.06 | Thrae | Last ep. also had an exploding head, kinda creepy |
| 00:40.10 | Gnarfoz | I just started watching the series last month (watching multiple episodes per evening back-to-back), S03E01 now |
| 00:40.18 | Thrae | Well, exploding top of head |
| 00:40.22 | Mikk | exploding... nutsack? |
| 00:40.27 | Mikk | no, wait, nvm, i don't want to know |
| 00:40.29 | pastamancer | it was a dream |
| 00:40.30 | Bam__ | purl, you are stupid |
| 00:40.32 | purl | Bam__: what are you talking about? |
| 00:40.40 | pastamancer | but it was still terrifying |
| 00:40.40 | Bam__ | uh eh |
| 00:40.42 | Gnarfoz | that's S02 last episode |
| 00:40.42 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:40.49 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: yeah |
| 00:40.54 | pastamancer | that's the worst it gets |
| 00:40.57 | Gnarfoz | yummy :x |
| 00:40.58 | sylvanaar | flow control is link layer stuff it doesnt leave your LAN |
| 00:41.13 | Mikk | ... unless relayed by smart routers |
| 00:41.17 | Mikk | err no |
| 00:41.18 | Mikk | nvm me |
| 00:42.20 | Mikk | no, wait, i'm right damnit.. there's L3 switches that relay that stuff |
| 00:42.34 | Mikk | but then again the definition of "LAN" becomes fuzzy when L3 switches are involved :> |
| 00:45.37 | Gnarfoz | Iiii kind of regret getting season 3 as 1280x720p x264 hdtv rips o_O ;D |
| 00:46.35 | kenlyric | I bet those are big. |
| 00:46.47 | kenlyric | but pretty! |
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| 00:47.30 | Gnarfoz | 1.35gb each :\ |
| 00:48.04 | sylvanaar | i hate using these tools because now it indicates an issue |
| 00:48.07 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34920 10Quartz/ (Buffs.lua Quartz-enUS.lua Quartz.toc): |
| 00:48.07 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 00:48.07 | CIA-23 | - Add buffs module (2.1 only! disables itself in 2.0) |
| 00:48.07 | CIA-23 | - Uses new blizz API for an accurate and efficient chronometer-style display of target buffs/debuffs for stuff you applied. |
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| 00:48.27 | sylvanaar | I need to rebuild my firewall onto faster hardware |
| 00:48.33 | sylvanaar | dammit |
| 00:48.37 | kebinusan | so quartz is like chronometer? or a castbar |
| 00:48.53 | evulhotdog_ | whats the command to login? |
| 00:49.02 | pastamancer | it's like a clock... with lasers |
| 00:49.09 | sylvanaar | Warning: You connection shows signs of ISP upload compression. |
| 00:49.11 | sylvanaar | what is that |
| 00:49.13 | kebinusan | ooh, what color lasers |
| 00:49.17 | kebinusan | heh |
| 00:49.20 | allen | a frickin clock with lazers ? |
| 00:49.30 | evulhotdog_ | o.o |
| 00:49.30 | nymbia | kebinusan: a little from column a, a little from column b |
| 00:49.33 | evulhotdog_ | o.o /msg |
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| 00:49.44 | Tain | Alarm clock pew pew pew |
| 00:49.58 | sylvanaar | i use a pentium 100 o.O |
| 00:50.02 | evulhotdog_ | whats to relog in to your name thing /msg nickserv IDENTIFY <password> |
| 00:50.38 | nymbia | kebinusan: its a modular castbar.. that stuff just seemed like a good thing to have integrated with the castbar. and since it doesnt require all that data and all that parsing that chronometer does anymore, i figured i'd throw together a module for it |
| 00:50.53 | sylvanaar | you dont run linux on it mikk? what do you run? |
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| 00:51.24 | kergoth | nymbia: is it target only, or also focus? focus too would be nice for things like sheep/sap |
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| 00:51.29 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:51.57 | nymbia | kergoth: target only at the moment, i'll probably make a seperate group for focus, anchor it to the other side of the castbar ;) |
| 00:52.05 | kergoth | thatd be cool |
| 00:57.28 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34921 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - added option to put portrait at the top of the frame (along with left and right) |
| 00:58.58 | ckknight | that should be nicer :-) |
| 00:59.45 | ckknight | well, for some people |
| 00:59.50 | ckknight | I don't like portraits in general |
| 01:00.45 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34922 10Aloft/ (Modules/Polymorph.lua Options/Modules/Polymorph.lua): Aloft: Polymorph - changes to default settings, and to some option wordings/ranges |
| 01:02.17 | Bam__ | nymbia: how about a "breathing" module for Quartz? |
| 01:03.22 | kergoth | thatd be nice, a mirror bar module |
| 01:03.25 | wallen | it'd be nice if you could position in PitBull the casting bar at the top of the frame instead than at the bottom |
| 01:03.35 | wallen | or is that too much hassle to implement? |
| 01:04.23 | JoshBorke | "make your own layout" |
| 01:04.37 | Bam__ | mirror bar yes.. hmm.. what other things than breathing does it show? |
| 01:04.55 | allen | feign death |
| 01:04.59 | Mikk | drowning |
| 01:05.00 | hyperChipmunk | FD time remaining |
| 01:05.04 | Mikk | =P |
| 01:05.04 | Bam__ | ah |
| 01:05.11 | JoshBorke | Bam__: fatigue |
| 01:05.56 | kergoth | haste has a nice little oMirrorBars addon, but its dongle and doesnt support surfacelib or sharedmedialib :( |
| 01:05.59 | sylvanaar | hey can anyone recommend a good firewall distro? |
| 01:06.15 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: i use clarkconnect |
| 01:06.24 | nymbia | hrm.. yeah i'll probably end up adding a mirrorbar module |
| 01:06.47 | ckknight | wallen: I like it at the bottom. I see no personal reason to implement the ability to put it at the top |
| 01:07.19 | kebinusan | nymbia: neat cant wait to play with it |
| 01:08.24 | sylvanaar | clarkconnect how does it compare to smoothwall |
| 01:09.04 | Mikk | not that i've looked at it, but they're all going to be using the same tools at the bottom |
| 01:09.16 | Mikk | so if you're hitting perf barriers, distro change isn't going to help |
| 01:09.20 | art3mis | any of you guys muck with psps? |
| 01:09.41 | sylvanaar | nah, im upgrading the HW, just while im at it... |
| 01:09.46 | Mikk | ah k |
| 01:10.19 | sylvanaar | the box has been sitting on my desk for 1.5 years waiting for me to swap it out with my current one |
| 01:10.45 | sylvanaar | I think its actually built and configured even, id ont know, i should turn it on |
| 01:12.14 | art3mis | syl a firewall distro for a stand alone? |
| 01:12.14 | art3mis | www.smoothwall.org |
| 01:12.14 | art3mis | 87meg standalone linux firewall with nta and snort n stuff |
| 01:12.14 | art3mis | err nat |
| 01:12.15 | art3mis | runs great on a 486 ;P |
| 01:12.15 | sylvanaar | yeah, i use that |
| 01:12.48 | sylvanaar | its running on a Pentium...i think actually its a pentium 200 |
| 01:13.01 | art3mis | i like that one |
| 01:13.06 | art3mis | used it since like 0.6 |
| 01:13.28 | art3mis | without going for a full fledged nix install its prolly the most decent |
| 01:13.35 | ckknight | wth, why don't shaman totems catch the raidFilter for buffs? |
| 01:13.38 | sylvanaar | but - guardian/snort is pushing it |
| 01:13.43 | art3mis | you could buy a sonicwall device as well |
| 01:13.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: because blizzard is dumb |
| 01:14.01 | ckknight | ugh |
| 01:14.06 | art3mis | buit more powerful than the smoothwall thingy but can do tons more PLUS added job skill points |
| 01:14.31 | ckknight | I believe I'm going to have to rewrite the whole raidFilter thing. |
| 01:14.33 | sylvanaar | did you install the mods to your smoothie |
| 01:14.59 | art3mis | i did originally but i havent touched it(since it hasnt broken) in about 8 months |
| 01:15.22 | sylvanaar | same here |
| 01:15.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: as someone (nymbia?) more or less said, you'll end up needing a list of what buffs each class can provide, and doing manual scanning/filtering if you really want to do it. |
| 01:15.41 | ckknight | yep. |
| 01:16.03 | sylvanaar | there arent any new mods anyways |
| 01:16.36 | nymbia | which is a little easier with babble |
| 01:16.40 | sylvanaar | 3.0 is in alphs |
| 01:16.45 | sylvanaar | alpha |
| 01:16.48 | nymbia | but stil, pain in the ass |
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| 01:25.04 | sylvanaar | wow clarkconnect is 400mb |
| 01:25.19 | sylvanaar | its a full distro |
| 01:26.17 | sylvanaar | i think im going to do something else actually |
| 01:28.26 | ckknight | potential idea: run through with the raidFilter the first time, then run a second time searching for "extra" buffs/debuffs |
| 01:28.33 | ckknight | but that wouldn't be the most efficient... |
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| 01:32.12 | Mikk | i got to wonder... would it be possible to knock people off a server by having e.g. 10 people whisper spamming them at full flood rate? |
| 01:32.33 | Mikk | i mean... blizz' servers seem to be allergic to TCP buffers flooding |
| 01:32.51 | Mikk | and the "people" i'm talking about would be gold spammers :> |
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| 01:48.14 | sylvanaar | are any of you wire collectors |
| 01:48.40 | ckknight | wtf |
| 01:48.47 | ckknight | Lightning Shield isn't caught by raidFilter |
| 01:48.56 | ckknight | wait, no, that makes sense |
| 01:48.59 | sylvanaar | self buff |
| 01:48.59 | ckknight | as it's personal |
| 01:49.08 | NightHawkTheSane | its stilly silly though |
| 01:49.16 | ag` | ckknight: but... Prayer of Mending? |
| 01:49.30 | ag` | ckknight: raidFilter kills Prayer of Mending. |
| 01:49.45 | ckknight | ag`: seriously considering just having a flat list instead. |
| 01:49.54 | NightHawkTheSane | probably saner |
| 01:49.54 | ag` | yeah |
| 01:49.59 | ag` | raidFilter kills Forbearance, Weakened Soul |
| 01:50.02 | ag` | which sucks so hard |
| 01:51.09 | ag` | seriously, why do they filter it out |
| 01:51.13 | ckknight | Babble-Spell-2.2 doesn't have the shaman buffs |
| 01:51.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Gah. |
| 01:51.24 | ckknight | i.e. "Stoneskin" |
| 01:51.29 | ckknight | it has "Stoneskin Totem" |
| 01:51.33 | ZealotOnAStick | ag`, since I updated today, aguf keeps wanting to not hide my party frame in raid. |
| 01:51.34 | ckknight | not "Stoneskin", though |
| 01:51.41 | ZealotOnAStick | If I /rl then it'll go away like it's supposed to. |
| 01:51.55 | ZealotOnAStick | but not on raid join or on login-to-already-in-a-raod |
| 01:52.40 | ag` | ZealotOnAStick: I rewrote some event code today, and at some point the hide in raid events didn't work, but I think I fixed them |
| 01:52.51 | ag` | ZealotOnAStick: when did you last update? |
| 01:53.38 | ZealotOnAStick | am on 34896 |
| 01:54.04 | vhaarr | ag`: I also got complaints that the custom colors for hp/mana resets when you reload UI now. |
| 01:54.18 | vhaarr | ag`: although I haven't tested it myself. |
| 01:54.49 | ag` | I will take a look at both problems |
| 01:55.03 | ag` | that's going to be for tomorrow though as I am about to go to sleep now |
| 01:56.00 | ag` | anyway things work for 2.1 |
| 01:56.05 | ag` | like the events |
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| 02:07.57 | kebinusan | expo needs an option to copy the display to the clipboard so it can be pasted or something |
| 02:09.43 | Mikk | you can't force stuff in and out of the clipboard programmatically afaik |
| 02:09.50 | Mikk | You have to stick it into an editbox and hit ctrl+c |
| 02:10.36 | Mikk | (Being able to programatically move stuff in and out of the clipboard would mean dual-way communication out of the sandbox) |
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| 02:14.40 | Thrae | Damn lag |
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| 02:24.27 | sylvanaar | kebinusan you can print to the chatframe |
| 02:24.37 | sylvanaar | well, that could be added |
| 02:25.30 | sylvanaar | actually, you may be able to use a modified copychat to do it |
| 02:26.11 | sylvanaar | that sounds like fun to make |
| 02:33.38 | kebinusan | heh, well wont be an issue next patch, its the taking a screenshot and converting it from tga and croping it thats a little annoying atm |
| 02:34.59 | kebinusan | still expo seems pretty neat |
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| 02:53.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone know of any web-based DKP packages other than EQDKP and NDKP? |
| 02:55.24 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34923 10Quartz/ (Buffs.lua Quartz-enUS.lua Quartz.lua): |
| 02:55.24 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 02:55.24 | CIA-23 | - Some stuff with the buffs module. Focus tracking, all kinds of options. |
| 02:55.24 | CIA-23 | - Clean up locale file. |
| 02:57.23 | Chompers | that heroic was great |
| 02:57.29 | Chompers | killed murmur heroic :D |
| 02:59.53 | ckknight | hooray, someone sent me money! |
| 03:00.01 | ckknight | just need $15 to keep playing WoW |
| 03:00.05 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34924 10Quartz/ (Buffs.lua GCD.lua Quartz-enUS.lua Quartz.lua): |
| 03:00.05 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 03:00.05 | CIA-23 | - Tweak the layout of the options waterfall. |
| 03:03.00 | kergoth | nymbia: i had an idea the other day, perhaps on topic for stitch and quartz both.. i was thinking a progress bar for the total of my current crafting. so if i'm making 80 deadly poison, it shows when i'll be done... could take it a step further with stitch and show it for the whole queue, but i dunno if any of that is possible, just a possibility |
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| 03:04.15 | nymbia | kergoth: hrm.. i like it. i'll throw together a quartz module after i make some dinner :) |
| 03:04.42 | kebinusan | ZealotOnAStick: mldkp |
| 03:04.45 | kergoth | is there a way to get the cast time of a profession thingy programmatically, or would it have to record the cast time the first time you make one? |
| 03:04.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: I've been meaning to write one for ages, but since I'm not actively raiding atm, the incentive just isnt there. :\ |
| 03:05.00 | kebinusan | there are also a couple free hosted sites available I Think |
| 03:05.31 | kebinusan | I dislike eqdkp mostly because of the number of files I need to edit to tweak something |
| 03:10.06 | nymbia | kergoth: i'm gonna hook DoTradeSkill for the quantity, then apply it on UNIT_SPELLCAST_START (when i can get the cast time) |
| 03:11.27 | kergoth | cool |
| 03:11.27 | kergoth | should be simple enough |
| 03:19.46 | sylvanaar | hey what is the mouseoverframe called again |
| 03:20.19 | ckknight | GetMouseFocus() |
| 03:20.50 | sylvanaar | thx |
| 03:25.05 | Garoun | now to see just how bad Ibotched up my non-embedded ;) |
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| 03:31.59 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34925 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-2.2 - added "Earthbind", "Grace of Air", "Healing Stream", "Mana Spring", "Mana Tide", "Stoneskin", "Strength of Earth", and "Tranquil Air". These are the buff/debuff forms of their respective totems. |
| 03:33.44 | theoddone33 | I think I'd stay way closer to sane if I had a mod that auto-ignored everyone with the stupid necrosis spam |
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| 03:34.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: um, did you add 'Wrath of Air', 'Totem of Wrath', and the three resistence totems as well? |
| 03:35.23 | ckknight | the resistance ones were already there |
| 03:35.47 | ckknight | didn't add wrath of air |
| 03:35.52 | ckknight | didn't show up as a buff in wowhead |
| 03:35.56 | ckknight | is it? |
| 03:36.33 | nymbia | it is |
| 03:36.37 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 03:36.45 | ckknight | okay, and what buff does Totem of Wrath give? |
| 03:37.07 | nymbia | buff's called "Wrath of Air Totem" |
| 03:37.12 | nymbia | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=5157 |
| 03:37.14 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, the buff's actually named that? |
| 03:37.32 | nymbia | err not that one |
| 03:37.36 | nymbia | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=2895 |
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| 03:38.18 | ckknight | and totem of wrath? |
| 03:41.03 | nymbia | Wrath of Air's the only wrath-ish one |
| 03:41.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Totem of Wrath, I believe: http://thottbot.com/s30708 |
| 03:41.48 | nymbia | oh, right you are |
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| 04:04.35 | NightHawkTheSane | you know what irks me? that I have to actually log in each time to keep patching. |
| 04:04.55 | nymbia | no you dont! |
| 04:05.01 | nymbia | enter a bullshit password |
| 04:05.06 | NightHawkTheSane | that works? |
| 04:05.08 | nymbia | yup |
| 04:05.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ... I never knew that. |
| 04:05.26 | NightHawkTheSane | I was getting really annoyed at entering my (rather long) password several times in a row. |
| 04:06.19 | nymbia | yeah |
| 04:06.35 | sedatedChipmunk | password for what? |
| 04:06.56 | sedatedChipmunk | ckknight: babble-spell lacks "Stun", too |
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| 04:07.07 | sedatedChipmunk | it's the proc of the paladin justice seal thingy |
| 04:07.15 | NightHawkTheSane | so add it? |
| 04:07.18 | sedatedChipmunk | it's just called Stun |
| 04:07.24 | sedatedChipmunk | no, i'm going to bed =) |
| 04:07.30 | sedatedChipmunk | and he's already got the file open |
| 04:07.32 | NightHawkTheSane | lol, slacker. |
| 04:07.32 | sedatedChipmunk | and i'm lazy |
| 04:07.36 | sedatedChipmunk | zzzzzz |
| 04:08.00 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34926 10CopyThat/ (. Bindings.xml CopyThat.lua CopyThat.toc CopyThat.xml): CopyThat: Import - Tool to scrape text from frames. Usage /ct <frame>, or bind a key for the mouseover frame. Works with most frames. |
| 04:08.18 | sedatedChipmunk | sylvanaar: neat |
| 04:08.46 | sylvanaar | its same as copychat |
| 04:08.53 | sylvanaar | but for any frame |
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| 04:09.34 | sylvanaar | you can do /ct ChatFrame1, and you get same output as copychat |
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| 04:18.13 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34927 10CopyThat/ (. CopyThat.toc): CopyThat: Post import tasks |
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| 04:21.14 | CIA-23 | 03grayhoof * r34928 10EavesDrop/ (EavesDrop.lua localization-enUS.lua localization-koKR.lua): EavesDrop: Added duration and DPS to summary tooltip. Cleaned up summary display. |
| 04:24.19 | sylvanaar | lol the prat project i made on curse was deleted because i didnt upload the addon yet |
| 04:25.17 | sylvanaar | oh man, i dont want to deal with making the addon site page, meh |
| 04:27.09 | ckknight | I has an idea! |
| 04:27.26 | ckknight | since I'm essentially rewriting raidFilter now, why not allow for multiple settings of it |
| 04:27.42 | ckknight | i.e. allow the option to show self-buffs |
| 04:33.12 | nymbia | hrm.. that'd be nice. |
| 04:33.35 | ckknight | well, I'm going through the classes now |
| 04:33.36 | ckknight | Priest first |
| 04:33.42 | ckknight | just gonna make the db first, really |
| 04:33.47 | ckknight | then do with the spells as I will |
| 04:34.26 | ckknight | 5 tables: canDispel, selfBuffs, buffNames, debuffNames, extraDebuffs (debuffs on friends to show, e.g. Weakened Soul) |
| 04:34.28 | ckknight | afaik |
| 04:34.48 | Gngsk | what about mortal strike? |
| 04:35.31 | ckknight | um... what's that? |
| 04:35.40 | Gngsk | well, it's a warrior ability |
| 04:35.45 | Gngsk | but it decreases healing done by like 1/2? |
| 04:35.46 | ckknight | go on |
| 04:35.53 | nymbia | yeah 50% |
| 04:37.28 | NightHawkTheSane | It's an untyped debuff, to be sure |
| 04:37.40 | Gngsk | yeah |
| 04:38.08 | Gngsk | a special case, there are other debuffs the decrease healing but they can be removed |
| 04:38.29 | vhaarr | not all of them |
| 04:38.55 | Gngsk | yeah, MS is the most common though |
| 04:38.58 | vhaarr | kurinnaxx' debuff can't be dispelled |
| 04:39.29 | vhaarr | or Temporus |
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| 04:40.11 | Gngsk | I guess an easy way to handle it would be to not filter untyped debuffs by default |
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| 04:44.38 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar 072.0b4-Public * r34929 10Prat/: Prat: Tagging version released to curse. |
| 04:50.23 | art3mis | if anyone lives near toronto go see this http://www.evildeadthemusical.com/toronto/node/9 |
| 04:50.26 | art3mis | it rules! |
| 04:56.15 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34930 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua PitBull.toc libs/): PitBull_Aura - add tables friendBuffs, selfBuffs, enemyDebuffs, friendDebuffs. Don't do anything yet. Only implemented for Priest, and that may not even be complete. |
| 04:58.36 | Funkeh` | feel the priest love |
| 04:58.39 | Funkeh` | yeah baby |
| 04:58.45 | NightHawkTheSane | man, fuck priests. |
| 04:58.53 | Funkeh` | priests > you |
| 04:59.22 | sylvanaar | is there a a gemcount mod which will tell you how many of each gem you have equipped? |
| 04:59.24 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, yes. |
| 04:59.31 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- crappy shaman :( |
| 04:59.46 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: yeah, i remember seeing one at one point, check wowi? |
| 05:00.59 | ckknight | Funkeh`: since you love priests so much, check the Aura.lua file to see if I missed anything |
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| 05:01.53 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7081-GemCounter0.2.4.html |
| 05:03.09 | Funkeh` | mind vision is a debuff |
| 05:04.19 | Funkeh` | to you adn the target |
| 05:04.55 | Megalon | ckknight: do you need lists of all buffs/debuffs a class can cast? |
| 05:05.00 | Funkeh` | shadow word: death isn't a dot/debuff, its an instant cast |
| 05:05.01 | ckknight | yes. |
| 05:05.27 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I thought it was a buff to the player and a debuff to the target |
| 05:05.30 | ckknight | re: mind vision |
| 05:05.36 | nymbia | debuff to both |
| 05:05.49 | Funkeh` | mind vision is debuff to both |
| 05:05.56 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:06.07 | Megalon | http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7150/wowscrnshot050207162743sy3.jpg |
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| 05:06.17 | Megalon | Shadow Word: Death fades from you. |
| 05:06.43 | Megalon | so it's like soul burn, just the other way around? |
| 05:07.02 | Funkeh` | Megalon: it gives no debuff in auras |
| 05:07.04 | Funkeh` | its instant |
| 05:07.16 | Roartindon | Megalon: A very interesting series of events in your combat log. |
| 05:07.44 | Megalon | well, it's not my combatlog :D |
| 05:07.58 | Megalon | it's a screen from that bug: SW:D + Spirit tap = giev spirit |
| 05:08.11 | Megalon | think it was fixed last ptr-patch |
| 05:08.19 | Roartindon | +2377 bonus damage......... |
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| 05:08.23 | Megalon | :DDD |
| 05:08.40 | Megalon | http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/6854/st1ob8.jpg |
| 05:08.42 | Megalon | even more |
| 05:09.08 | Megalon | was like: you killed a mob with SW:D and got spirit tap from it: +1000% spirit |
| 05:09.19 | Megalon | if it was a crit SW:D, +2000% spirit |
| 05:09.30 | Megalon | i have no clue how they got that bug into the ptr :D |
| 05:09.35 | Funkeh` | ckknight: basically you can remove shadow word: death afaik |
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| 05:09.41 | ckknight | Funkeh`: okay |
| 05:11.32 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34931 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add "Windwall" |
| 05:11.54 | Funkeh` | wtf is that :o |
| 05:11.57 | NightHawkTheSane | psh. like anyone would -use- windwall to actually notice it's missing |
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| 05:12.19 | Funkeh` | shaman totem? |
| 05:12.28 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 05:12.38 | Funkeh` | you crazy shamans and your totems |
| 05:12.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Its like stoneskin, but against ranged attacks only. |
| 05:12.45 | Megalon | it's -dmg from ranged attacks |
| 05:13.00 | NightHawkTheSane | So like, if you're being assaulted by hunters, it might be vaguely useful. |
| 05:13.03 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34932 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - added Shaman information to spell listing. also added table selfDebuffs, as apparently Mind Vision is a self-debuff |
| 05:13.15 | ckknight | someone with a shaman please check that |
| 05:13.23 | Megalon | like, the aimed shot will crit for 3190 instead of 3200 |
| 05:14.11 | CIA-23 | 03fleetfoot 07PTR2.1 * r34933 10DarkCandy/DarkCandy/ (. DarkCandy.lua DarkCandy.toc): |
| 05:14.11 | CIA-23 | DarkCandy |
| 05:14.11 | CIA-23 | - Work never ends, stuff added, stuff removed. |
| 05:14.17 | Megalon | ckknight: you need the name from the bufftooltip in this lists? |
| 05:14.24 | Megalon | can make a list with warrior stuff |
| 05:14.35 | ckknight | basically, yes |
| 05:14.40 | ckknight | I'm just going through wowhead now. |
| 05:14.48 | Megalon | ah, k :> |
| 05:16.09 | ckknight | if someone would like to help, I'd be grateful, especially if you play the class :-) |
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| 05:16.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: 'Stoneclaw Stun' needs to go under enemyDebuffs for shammies. http://thottbot.com/s39796 |
| 05:17.50 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34934 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add "Stoneclaw Stun" |
| 05:18.35 | Megalon | ckknight: Shadowguard is one of those Priestrace spells: Trolls only |
| 05:18.43 | Megalon | selfBuffs |
| 05:18.46 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34935 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add "Stoneclaw Stun" to Shaman enemyDebuffs |
| 05:19.29 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34936 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - Shadowguard is Troll Priest only |
| 05:19.52 | NightHawkTheSane | "Grounding Totem Effect" under friendBuffs, |
| 05:19.55 | NightHawkTheSane | http://thottbot.com/s8178 |
| 05:20.36 | NightHawkTheSane | "Water Walking" is a friendBuff, not a selfBuff. |
| 05:21.54 | ckknight | is it? |
| 05:22.00 | NightHawkTheSane | yep, you can cast it on other people too |
| 05:22.37 | ckknight | well, I'm working on pally now |
| 05:26.31 | ckknight | holy hell pallies have a lot of friendBuffs |
| 05:26.54 | Megalon | ;D |
| 05:27.28 | NightHawkTheSane | "Healing Way" and "Ancestral Fortitude" under friendBuffs; "Clearcasting", "Focused Casting" and "Elemental Devastation" under selfBuffs, |
| 05:27.38 | Funkeh` | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=39811&mirror=3 |
| 05:28.10 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: want to add them to yours locally and then just commit? |
| 05:28.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: I don't have svn access |
| 05:28.25 | ckknight | get it |
| 05:28.25 | NightHawkTheSane | otherwise i would |
| 05:28.26 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:28.30 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm lazy :) |
| 05:28.30 | ckknight | lame |
| 05:31.42 | Megalon | ckknight: is there something like selfDebuffs? |
| 05:31.51 | Megalon | as Death Wish is a debuff for warriors |
| 05:31.51 | ckknight | yes, selfDebuffs |
| 05:31.56 | Megalon | ah kk |
| 05:32.35 | Megalon | argh, priest mind vision is there |
| 05:32.41 | Megalon | didn't see that |
| 05:34.16 | Megalon | Orc: [BS["Blood Fury"]] = playerRace == "Orc" and true or nil, |
| 05:34.23 | Megalon | is this right for a racial? |
| 05:34.49 | ckknight | right. |
| 05:34.53 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r34937 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 05:34.53 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:34.54 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 05:35.10 | Megalon | kk, just read the priest things and wondere "wtf, scourge" :D |
| 05:35.16 | Megalon | wondered* |
| 05:35.27 | Megalon | than i realised 'oh, undead that is' :> |
| 05:36.58 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34938 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add Paladin spell data |
| 05:37.09 | ckknight | Blizz's backend sees the Undead's race as Scourge |
| 05:37.34 | Megalon | ah, didn't know that |
| 05:37.51 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r34939 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 05:37.51 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:37.51 | CIA-23 | - Fixed koKR Translation |
| 05:38.09 | Megalon | and btw, troll's got that faster cast/attack speed racial |
| 05:38.24 | Megalon | don't know if the buff is the same name as the spell |
| 05:38.34 | NightHawkTheSane | "Berserking" and yeah, it is. |
| 05:38.34 | ckknight | Berserking |
| 05:39.24 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r34940 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 05:39.24 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:39.24 | CIA-23 | - Fixed koKR translation |
| 05:39.27 | Megalon | yea |
| 05:39.37 | Megalon | just tested it with my gimp priest ;D |
| 05:40.19 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34941 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add "Grounding Totem Effect" |
| 05:40.47 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r34942 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: |
| 05:40.47 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: |
| 05:40.47 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.52 | Megalon | wotf buff = "Will of the Forsaken"? |
| 05:41.59 | Megalon | than ud priest: [BS["Will of the Forsaken"]] = playerRace == "Scourge" and true or nil, |
| 05:42.12 | ckknight | actually that'd apply to everyone, not just priests |
| 05:42.17 | Megalon | yea |
| 05:42.24 | ckknight | I'll add all that at the end |
| 05:42.38 | Megalon | ah, so i don't need to add racials? kk :> |
| 05:43.48 | ckknight | not class-unspecific ones |
| 05:43.51 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34943 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add more spells to shaman data |
| 05:43.52 | ckknight | I'll deal with that |
| 05:44.16 | Megalon | ok |
| 05:44.39 | Megalon | ah, yea those priests have extra class 'racials' |
| 05:44.43 | Megalon | qq! |
| 05:45.14 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34944 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - mixing things around |
| 05:45.34 | ckknight | Megalon: okay, update that and you'll see after if not friendDebuffs then friendDebuffs = {} end |
| 05:45.45 | ckknight | that's where the class-unspecific racials will go |
| 05:46.03 | ckknight | so you'd have selfBuffs[BS["Will of the Forsaken"]] = playerRace == "Scourge" and true or nil |
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| 05:50.27 | Megalon | ok |
| 05:51.03 | ckknight | if you'd like to do that, I'd appreciate it |
| 05:51.09 | Bver | does anyone know if there is an option for pet happiness with ag_uf?, because i don't see it on the frame. |
| 05:51.35 | ckknight | there should be |
| 05:51.36 | ckknight | afaik |
| 05:52.31 | vhaarr | Bver: you have to use a watchdog tag |
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| 05:52.58 | ckknight | [happyicon] or something |
| 05:53.15 | Bver | ok |
| 05:53.16 | vhaarr | they should be listed on the wiki |
| 05:54.02 | Funkeh` | later |
| 05:54.03 | Megalon | ckknight: on the warrior raid sets, they have proccs which give you a buff, also include those in selfBuffs? |
| 05:54.20 | ckknight | Megalon: hrm... I'd say yes. |
| 05:54.37 | ckknight | Megalon: really, we want to show all useful information and no useless information |
| 05:54.52 | ckknight | so basically ask yourself would you want to see it |
| 05:55.48 | sergio | ckknight: I get a dewdrop menu for combo point sides on my target even though i have the addon disabled (greyed out but the tooltip definately states combo point sides) |
| 05:56.08 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:56.11 | ckknight | k... |
| 05:56.20 | ckknight | I'll look into it |
| 05:56.28 | sergio | also for height twice on my player frame |
| 05:56.36 | sergio | not sure for what |
| 05:58.33 | CIA-23 | 03next96 * r34945 10Violation/modules/HealingTaken.lua: |
| 05:58.33 | CIA-23 | Violation : |
| 05:58.33 | CIA-23 | - Update locale koKR |
| 05:59.10 | _art3mis | man i need to find a psp mod site |
| 05:59.21 | _art3mis | and get a new faceplate for mine |
| 06:02.41 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34946 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add Mage spell data |
| 06:02.59 | sergio | are you working on hunter data or do you want me to give it a shot |
| 06:06.42 | ckknight | please go ahead |
| 06:06.45 | ckknight | I'm watching Lost |
| 06:07.16 | sergio | I just finished watching it :) |
| 06:07.18 | sergio | good episode |
| 06:07.19 | kebinusan | So this going on cause the blizz aura filtering sucks? or am I misunderstanding why spell data is being added |
| 06:07.31 | ckknight | yes, kebinusan |
| 06:07.32 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34947 10Quartz/ (Buffs.lua Quartz-enUS.lua Quartz.lua): |
| 06:07.32 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 06:07.32 | CIA-23 | - Bugfix in Buffs |
| 06:07.32 | CIA-23 | - Add Tradeskill Merge module, which displays a single big bar for multiple tradeskill casts. |
| 06:07.35 | ckknight | it sucks hardcore |
| 06:07.46 | ckknight | so we're rewriting it |
| 06:08.02 | kebinusan | yeah Iknew it sucked bad, nice to see that going on instead of just 'you're stuck with it' |
| 06:08.03 | nymbia | kergoth: i ran outta crap to test with on the PTR, but it seems to work ;) |
| 06:08.21 | ckknight | kebinusan: yea |
| 06:08.24 | ckknight | kebinusan: what class you play? |
| 06:08.28 | kebinusan | Warlock |
| 06:08.33 | ckknight | kebinusan: wanna help out? |
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| 06:08.48 | ckknight | kebinusan: I'd much prefer people who actually play the class to do this |
| 06:08.50 | ckknight | it's not hard |
| 06:08.50 | kebinusan | what do I need to do |
| 06:08.58 | ckknight | update Aura.lua to the most recent |
| 06:09.01 | ckknight | and then follow the pattern |
| 06:09.07 | ckknight | use wowhead as a list of spells to reference against |
| 06:09.23 | kebinusan | k I'll take a look at it |
| 06:09.29 | ckknight | I've done Priest, Pally, Shaman, and Mage |
| 06:09.45 | ckknight | Pally and Mage may need to be checked over |
| 06:10.16 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34948 10Quartz/ (Quartz.lua Quartz.toc): |
| 06:10.16 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 06:10.16 | CIA-23 | - Bugfix for tradeskill hiding the time text for normal casts |
| 06:10.16 | CIA-23 | - toc update |
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| 06:13.07 | nymbia | i'll take a look at mage |
| 06:14.58 | ckknight | thanks |
| 06:16.02 | kebinusan | self buffs are self only and friend buffs can be self or friend? |
| 06:17.06 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 06:18.36 | kebinusan | k |
| 06:20.49 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r34949 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 06:20.49 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 06:20.49 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 06:24.06 | Megalon | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/25537 |
| 06:25.46 | Megalon | i also included things like Enrage, Blood Craze, Second Wind. don't know if you want them in, as they are not buffs you can control yourself |
| 06:26.00 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34950 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add Warrior spell data (thanks, Megalon) |
| 06:26.22 | Megalon | and i noticed priests didn't include: Blessed Recovery |
| 06:26.41 | Megalon | that: Regain health after victim of a critical strike |
| 06:26.56 | ckknight | in selfBuffs? |
| 06:27.08 | Megalon | yes |
| 06:27.18 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27811 |
| 06:27.25 | Megalon | but i don't play priest |
| 06:27.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Megalon: I think it's worth including them |
| 06:27.29 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34951 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add Blessed Recovery to Priest selfBuffs |
| 06:27.40 | pastamancer | who the hell actually gets blessed recovery?" |
| 06:27.43 | Megalon | so i don't know if the buff is the same name |
| 06:27.47 | NightHawkTheSane | You'd want to know when your proc-based buffs-debuffs go off |
| 06:27.48 | Megalon | no clue pasta :D |
| 06:28.07 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: no one, just like no shammies take elemental devastation, but you have to have it there for the idiots who do. |
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| 06:28.26 | pastamancer | le sigh |
| 06:28.29 | _art3mis | http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn11819&feedId=online-news_rss20 umm wtf? |
| 06:29.05 | pastamancer | spell warding is pretty sweet |
| 06:29.51 | _art3mis | A source added: “You’re talking somebody being robbed and shot in their home for a games console. It’s the sort of thing you’d expect in America, not here. The violence used was extreme.” <-- unrelated to the above post just funny |
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| 06:31.06 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34952 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 06:31.06 | CIA-23 | .Babble-Spell-2.2: |
| 06:31.06 | CIA-23 | - Add Hypothermia. |
| 06:32.32 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34953 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 06:32.32 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura: |
| 06:32.32 | CIA-23 | - Update Mage buffs/debuffs. |
| 06:34.57 | Megalon | ah, found another specc related selfbuff for priests that isn't in the list yet |
| 06:35.10 | ckknight | k |
| 06:35.11 | Megalon | Focused Casting, buff gained from Martyrdom |
| 06:36.21 | kebinusan | warlock debuffs is going to be a fun category ehre |
| 06:36.21 | Megalon | just wanted to see a friends shadowpecc and what he specced in the disc tree |
| 06:36.37 | kebinusan | almost as bad as pally buffs Id imagine |
| 06:36.47 | Megalon | :DD |
| 06:36.53 | Arrowmaster | warlock debuffs wont be hard |
| 06:36.56 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34954 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add "Focused Casting" to Priest selfBuffs |
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| 06:37.13 | Megalon | i think pally buffs are a pain in the ass |
| 06:37.18 | Arrowmaster | theres enough warlocks in this channel to make sure everything gets covered |
| 06:37.19 | Megalon | with all those blessings, seals |
| 06:37.22 | Megalon | and wtf not |
| 06:37.30 | sergio | ckknight: what about pet buffs and debuffs |
| 06:37.42 | ckknight | not sure about those. |
| 06:38.17 | sergio | for example, there are stupid buffs for hunters like boar charge and then there's something you want to see like how many stacks of poison a scorpid pet has one someone |
| 06:38.18 | kebinusan | I put warlock pet auras under friend buffs, things like blood pact and paranoia |
| 06:38.22 | nymbia | i put a water elemental debuff in the mage enemy debuffs |
| 06:38.23 | Megalon | hm bloodpact is nice to know if all your groupmembers will get it from where your imp is parked |
| 06:38.38 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:38.39 | ckknight | go with that |
| 06:38.39 | sergio | -one |
| 06:38.41 | kebinusan | Megalon: yeah its on my warlock list |
| 06:39.29 | Megalon | i already got the HUNTER list for friendBuffs |
| 06:39.32 | Megalon | its {} |
| 06:39.33 | Megalon | ;S |
| 06:40.09 | nymbia | aspect of the wild! |
| 06:40.12 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 06:40.12 | nymbia | and pack! |
| 06:40.16 | sergio | I have 7 things |
| 06:40.22 | sergio | you guys don't know hunters well |
| 06:40.30 | nymbia | and TSA! |
| 06:40.49 | sergio | should buffs that only go to pets go under friends |
| 06:41.00 | Megalon | spirit bond? |
| 06:41.05 | nymbia | sergio: yeah |
| 06:41.16 | ckknight | yes, sergio |
| 06:41.17 | sergio | spirit bond, mend pet, feed pet effect |
| 06:41.22 | Megalon | your pet is your friend |
| 06:41.29 | Megalon | at least it should be that way ;D |
| 06:41.30 | ckknight | I know your pet is my friend |
| 06:41.31 | nymbia | beastial wrath |
| 06:41.36 | nymbia | heh |
| 06:41.40 | sergio | i have it all down |
| 06:41.49 | sergio | shrug you can fix it if i fucked up |
| 06:45.43 | Megalon | at least it should be that way ;D + |
| 06:45.46 | Megalon | + |
| 06:47.56 | Megalon | oops, keyboard cleaning :x |
| 06:49.47 | ckknight | alright, Lost is done |
| 06:49.54 | ckknight | what classes haven't been taken care of yet? |
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| 06:50.39 | ckknight | Rogue and Druid? |
| 06:51.35 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34955 10Quartz/Quartz-enUS.lua: |
| 06:51.35 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 06:51.36 | CIA-23 | - Tweak the GCD module's "no spell" rant-print. |
| 06:52.44 | nymbia | warlock, or was someone working on that? |
| 06:53.19 | ckknight | I'm gonna do racials now |
| 06:55.02 | Roartindon | haha.. bunch of nubs on my server... decided to do bwl pug right now |
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| 06:55.29 | Roartindon | getting a big wigs revision string error.. counter bars or something |
| 06:56.04 | Silviu- | nymbia what should i use as an warlock as primary spell ? ;) |
| 06:56.23 | Silviu- | To Quartz gcd i mean :) |
| 06:56.37 | Silviu- | Assuming i don`t have Herba :P |
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| 06:58.20 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r34956 10GraphLib/ (13 files in 5 dirs): |
| 06:58.20 | CIA-23 | GraphLib - Fixed several errors involving width instead of height (Thanks to Nelson Minar) |
| 06:58.20 | CIA-23 | -Determines the proper texture directory so can be included instead of used as standalone library |
| 06:58.20 | CIA-23 | -Renamed the texture directory |
| 06:58.21 | nymbia | Silviu-: maybe a racial or something -- but that's why the backup spell thing is there, now, if you don't have anything you can use. stick like.. searing pain as primary and shadowbolt as secondary, and they'll work even if one school's interrupted |
| 06:58.52 | Silviu- | Oky, thank u :) |
| 06:59.08 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r34957 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: add Stun |
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| 07:00.26 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34958 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add class-unspecific racials to spell data |
| 07:00.52 | ckknight | okay, I'm gonna work on Druid spells now |
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| 07:08.05 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34959 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua statusbar/Flat.tga): |
| 07:08.05 | CIA-23 | SharedMedia: |
| 07:08.05 | CIA-23 | - Add Flat StatusBar texture courtesy of starkebn on the forums. |
| 07:11.29 | CIA-23 | 03kebinusan * r34960 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura: Add Warlock class specific spell data |
| 07:11.36 | Megalon | ckknight: the orc-racial 'Blood Fury' also applies a debuff to yourself with the same name (-50% heal) |
| 07:11.45 | ckknight | okay. |
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| 07:14.23 | evl | lolmorning |
| 07:15.06 | ckknight | hey evl |
| 07:15.14 | ckknight | evl: what class do you play? |
| 07:15.19 | evl | rogue! |
| 07:15.23 | Punkie` | duhhhhh |
| 07:15.24 | evl | stab, stab, stabby stab, stab, poetry |
| 07:15.42 | kebinusan | 222242222322223222322232224 |
| 07:17.25 | ckknight | evl: awesome |
| 07:17.25 | evl | cp cycle? :P |
| 07:17.25 | kebinusan | oshit vanish |
| 07:17.25 | ckknight | evl: want to help out with PitBull_Aura's spell data? |
| 07:17.25 | evl | sure |
| 07:17.26 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:17.26 | ckknight | update PitBull |
| 07:17.26 | evl | i played 2v2 with a mage yesterday, is there ANY fucking way to beat rogue + feral? |
| 07:17.26 | ckknight | check out the top of Aura.lua |
| 07:17.26 | ckknight | you'll see stuff that says selfBuffs = { ... } and such |
| 07:17.26 | ckknight | basically, fill it in for ROGUE |
| 07:17.26 | ckknight | I'm doing Druid now |
| 07:17.27 | evl | what is it's purpose? |
| 07:17.29 | Megalon | filtering :> |
| 07:17.36 | evl | gotcha |
| 07:17.39 | ckknight | evl: Blizzard's raidFilter blows donkey balls. |
| 07:17.48 | ckknight | I'm redoing it from scratch. |
| 07:17.57 | evl | rogue is pretty easy :D |
| 07:18.04 | evl | canDispel = nil, helpfulSpells = nil |
| 07:18.04 | evl | :D |
| 07:18.15 | Megalon | it's almost like hunters |
| 07:18.21 | Megalon | friendBuffs = {} |
| 07:18.22 | Megalon | ;S |
| 07:18.25 | ckknight | evl: you'll mostly want to fill enemyDebuffs |
| 07:18.25 | evl | usefulInRaids = nil |
| 07:18.32 | Punkie` | nah |
| 07:18.32 | NightHawkTheSane | and selfBuffs |
| 07:18.46 | Punkie` | we have liek, poisons and bleeds for win! :o |
| 07:18.49 | NightHawkTheSane | more or less any buff you really care about seeing |
| 07:18.54 | Megalon | selfBuffs = { SLICE'N'DICE }! |
| 07:19.06 | evl | I prefer to call it MEgaDYPS! |
| 07:19.08 | Punkie` | also Haste! |
| 07:19.09 | ckknight | question for Druids: does Tranquility act as a buff on just yourself or on friends as well? |
| 07:19.19 | Megalon | an everyone |
| 07:19.22 | Megalon | who gets the heal |
| 07:19.44 | Megalon | on everyone i mean |
| 07:20.12 | nymbia | yeah, friends get it |
| 07:20.34 | ckknight | evl: basically by having people who actually play the class do it, it ensures that it might be better than me just datamining from wowhead |
| 07:20.39 | nymbia | same with the treeform aura |
| 07:20.43 | evl | agred |
| 07:20.52 | nymbia | and leader of the pack and moonkin aura |
| 07:21.15 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34961 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add Druid spell data |
| 07:21.20 | ckknight | nymbia: would you mind filling those in? |
| 07:21.26 | nymbia | sure thing :) |
| 07:22.36 | ckknight | k, we have PRIEST, SHAMAN, PALADIN, MAGE, DRUID, WARRIOR, and WARLOCK |
| 07:22.39 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34962 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - indentation |
| 07:22.43 | sergio | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/25594 needs more pet data but maybe i'll do it tomorrow |
| 07:22.43 | ckknight | just missing HUNTER and WARLOCK |
| 07:22.58 | ckknight | and that's HUNTER |
| 07:23.02 | Silviu- | Warlock is in |
| 07:23.50 | ckknight | wait, not WARLOCK |
| 07:23.51 | ckknight | ROGUE |
| 07:23.54 | ckknight | just ROGUE now |
| 07:24.21 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34963 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add Hunter spell data |
| 07:24.32 | ckknight | I think I might actually have a petBuffs and petDebuffs section |
| 07:24.37 | ckknight | rather than have them be part of friends |
| 07:24.39 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34964 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 07:24.40 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura: |
| 07:24.40 | CIA-23 | - Update Druid buffs. |
| 07:24.43 | ckknight | cause I don't care about other people's pets. |
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| 07:24.50 | sergio | true that |
| 07:24.51 | ckknight | they're smelly |
| 07:25.19 | sergio | i have to add stuff like thunderstomp for the stupid hunters or you can do it |
| 07:25.34 | _art3mis | http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/CoolIT_Freezone/index5.shtml <-- good god |
| 07:25.52 | sergio | i only did a few pet spells |
| 07:26.03 | evl | ckknight: What if I have a spell like Riposte which acts like a buff on you but as a debuff on others? Does it freak out over that? |
| 07:26.20 | ckknight | evl: add to both selfBuffs and enemyDebuffs |
| 07:26.30 | evl | k, btw, Trainer Skills? :P |
| 07:26.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Riposte actually gives you a buff now? |
| 07:26.38 | ckknight | evl: ? |
| 07:26.46 | evl | isn't it a listing of skills? :P |
| 07:26.55 | evl | NightHawkTheSane: well you see when it's activated |
| 07:26.57 | NightHawkTheSane | no, its a listing of buffs and debuffs |
| 07:27.07 | NightHawkTheSane | If you don't get a buff/debuff icon for it, dont include it :P |
| 07:27.40 | evl | but you do, it's like overpower |
| 07:28.05 | sergio | that's just SCT or whatever you have installed |
| 07:28.08 | NightHawkTheSane | That doesnt actually give you a buff, though, its just a reactionary skill. |
| 07:28.11 | sergio | telling you to overpower on a dodge |
| 07:28.35 | sergio | it's like if i dodge an attack it says <Mongoose Bite> |
| 07:28.40 | sergio | but it isn't a buff |
| 07:28.40 | Silviu- | Yep u get no icon for it |
| 07:29.14 | evl | Mkay |
| 07:29.33 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34965 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add petBuffs and petDebuffs. Move Hunter pet buffs to the right place. |
| 07:29.37 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: Basically, you just want to list the actual buffs and/or debuffs that rogues generally need to see. |
| 07:29.41 | sergio | are you just collecting the data or is this new filter enabled yet |
| 07:29.52 | ckknight | just collecting data. |
| 07:29.58 | ckknight | once evl's done, I'll implement |
| 07:30.00 | NightHawkTheSane | and be sure to use the actual (de)buff tooltip text, and not the skill name, as they may be different |
| 07:30.01 | evl | I've always been under the impression that you get a blinky icon for riposte but <:P |
| 07:30.07 | NightHawkTheSane | no :) |
| 07:30.09 | sergio | hurry up evl |
| 07:30.12 | evl | :( |
| 07:30.13 | evl | sec |
| 07:30.14 | evl | at work P |
| 07:30.18 | ckknight | lol. |
| 07:30.29 | ckknight | I'll start implementing |
| 07:30.41 | Megalon | ckknight: SHAMAN is missing the enemyDebuffs for Frostband Weapon, but i have no clue if that debuff from that weaponenchant is also called 'Frostbrand', i don't even know if shamans use that :s |
| 07:30.41 | sergio | so good for raids |
| 07:30.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Megalon: no, we don't. thats why i totally forgot it. :D |
| 07:31.12 | ckknight | I'd still like to have it |
| 07:31.19 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, looking it up on thott now |
| 07:31.35 | ckknight | "Frostbrand Attack" |
| 07:31.38 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 07:32.57 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34966 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add Shaman enemyDebuff "Frostbrand Attack" |
| 07:34.44 | Megalon | ckknight: another one, enhancement: 'Unleashed Rage' friendBuffs |
| 07:34.53 | ckknight | Shaman? |
| 07:35.06 | Megalon | ah yea |
| 07:36.10 | evl | ckknight: you've added items too, what items to add reallyt? |
| 07:36.20 | evl | There's like a gazillion chance on hit effects for rogues |
| 07:36.25 | evl | I think i have 3 equipped |
| 07:36.58 | ckknight | evl: don't know about that |
| 07:37.06 | ckknight | evl: leave em off for now, I'd say |
| 07:37.25 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. Actually, that's a good question. There's a -bunch- of buffs that come from item procs/use effects, those need to be left unfiltered, probably |
| 07:37.35 | NightHawkTheSane | well.. no, i guess not. |
| 07:37.42 | Megalon | i added them for warrior |
| 07:37.48 | NightHawkTheSane | you wouldn't really care about seeing them on someone -else- |
| 07:37.50 | Megalon | with the class sets T4/T5 |
| 07:38.00 | Megalon | as selfbuffs |
| 07:38.28 | Megalon | most tanking set 2/4 piece bonus are buff auras for a short duration |
| 07:39.28 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34967 10Quartz/ (Buffs.lua GCD.lua Quartz.lua): |
| 07:39.28 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 07:39.28 | CIA-23 | - Minor tweaks to defaults and element positioning. |
| 07:40.40 | sergio | Haste is a popular self Buff name |
| 07:40.56 | Silviu- | Babble spell misses Swift flight form :) |
| 07:41.20 | Silviu- | Got an error from Pitbull :) |
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| 07:42.09 | Fisker- | lol |
| 07:42.24 | Fisker- | Announcing VMware ACE 2 Enterprise Edition |
| 07:42.25 | NightHawkTheSane | druids and their swift flight from can go suck it :P |
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| 07:43.29 | sergio | the hunter one is probably all fucked up |
| 07:43.37 | sergio | feed pet effect doesn't have an entry |
| 07:43.46 | sergio | i don't have bugsack installed so i can't see more |
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| 07:45.56 | evl | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 07:46.03 | evl | svn ate my changes in the conflict box |
| 07:46.04 | evl | thanks |
| 07:46.18 | evl | yup, all gone |
| 07:46.22 | deci | we should probably feed him more |
| 07:46.28 | ckknight | evl: there should be 4 files created |
| 07:46.34 | evl | i know but it deleted .mine |
| 07:46.36 | ckknight | evl: one of those is yours before the conflict |
| 07:46.56 | evl | and not in recycle :P |
| 07:47.27 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34968 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add "Swift Flight Form" |
| 07:47.28 | ckknight | :-( |
| 07:47.54 | sergio | ckknight: mend pet and feed pet effect should go to the petbuff section and there's no entry for feed pet effect and probably a lot of the pet stuff |
| 07:48.20 | ckknight | in babble, you mean? |
| 07:48.31 | ckknight | or in Aura.lua? |
| 07:48.51 | evl | need a coffee before i rewrite |
| 07:48.52 | evl | fucking shit |
| 07:48.58 | sergio | i mean there's no feed pet effect in babble yes |
| 07:49.07 | sergio | and probably for a lot of the pet abilities |
| 07:49.47 | sergio | mend pet and feed pet effect should be moved from friendly to petBuffs |
| 07:49.56 | sergio | I'll just make a new one and pasty it later |
| 07:50.01 | sergio | eeeeeeee |
| 07:50.27 | ckknight | evl: *hug* |
| 07:50.42 | ckknight | sergio: that'd work |
| 07:51.29 | ckknight | question: should self buffs show when unit == "player" or when UnitIsUnit(unit, "player")? |
| 07:51.49 | NightHawkTheSane | er... is there a difference? |
| 07:51.59 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, wait, n/m |
| 07:52.04 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, they should |
| 07:52.16 | ckknight | to which? |
| 07:52.37 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the latter definitely. and the former seems implied to me |
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| 07:53.12 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:53.14 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34969 10Quartz/Buffs.lua: |
| 07:53.15 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 07:53.15 | CIA-23 | - Tweak buff duration rounding. |
| 07:53.39 | NightHawkTheSane | I assume unit=="player" refers specifically to the player frame, while unitisunit(unit,"player") is just target/focus/raid frames that happen to also be the player, yeah? |
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| 07:54.21 | ckknight | right. |
| 07:55.11 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* So it seems implied that if a person is showing buffs on their playerFrame, they'll want to see their self buffs as well. And including them on other frames when it's the player is just a matter of consistency. |
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| 07:58.58 | sergio | does anyone remember if spirit bond is only a selfbuff or does it show on the pet too |
| 07:59.04 | sergio | i've never really speced that way |
| 07:59.07 | a-stray-cat | shows on both, i think |
| 07:59.10 | nymbia | probably on the pet as well |
| 07:59.14 | nymbia | like soul link |
| 08:00.16 | Loki|muh | yeah it does |
| 08:00.35 | a-stray-cat | for some reason |
| 08:00.39 | a-stray-cat | disabling addons isn't disabling them. |
| 08:00.52 | a-stray-cat | a bunch of addons will remain enabled when i log back on |
| 08:01.25 | sergio | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/25630 should be good |
| 08:01.47 | NightHawkTheSane | a-stray-cat: check the file 'AddOns.txt' in WoW/WTF/ACCOUNT/<acount name>/<server name>/<character name> |
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| 08:02.20 | NightHawkTheSane | a-stray-cat: check to see if there's a line that looks like ':enabled' without an associated addno on the same line. |
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| 08:02.45 | a-stray-cat | it doesn't look like it |
| 08:03.27 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* well, then im not sure. sorry :) |
| 08:04.47 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34970 10Quartz/ (GPLv2.txt Quartz ReadMe.html): |
| 08:04.47 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 08:04.47 | CIA-23 | - Add the license text and a link to the (currently empty) wiki page. |
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| 08:06.37 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34971 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add "Battle Rush", "Blade Turning", "Blood Frenzy", and "Reinforced Shield". |
| 08:06.50 | evl | nymbia: Quarts is oCB equiivialent? |
| 08:07.07 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34972 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - implement new buff/debuff filtering using the custom spell data. |
| 08:07.12 | ckknight | alright |
| 08:07.17 | ckknight | that's it in action. |
| 08:07.44 | Megalon | let the complaints begin! :D |
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| 08:08.24 | ckknight | yep. |
| 08:08.36 | ckknight | "my rogue doesn't see any buffs or debuffs" |
| 08:08.44 | ckknight | ag`: I recreated raidFilter |
| 08:09.24 | nymbia | evl: i'm not sure exactly what oCB does, but my guess is that it does everything that oCB does except the mirror bar |
| 08:09.31 | evl | ah |
| 08:11.53 | a-stray-cat | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:920: Unknown unit token: Chewie: <- i get this on every OnUpdate |
| 08:12.05 | a-stray-cat | (on test) |
| 08:12.07 | a-stray-cat | is that normal? |
| 08:12.15 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:12.21 | ckknight | no, not normal |
| 08:12.26 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm going to hazard a guess and say no :) |
| 08:12.26 | Cryect | haha |
| 08:12.30 | a-stray-cat | ;) |
| 08:12.31 | ckknight | something is trying to access the unit "Chewie" |
| 08:12.41 | Cryect | yes blame slouken |
| 08:12.45 | ckknight | who, although delicious, is nonexistent |
| 08:12.52 | a-stray-cat | how unfortunate |
| 08:12.53 | a-stray-cat | can i fix it? |
| 08:12.55 | Cryect | sounds like a good unit name |
| 08:13.02 | a-stray-cat | he's our tank, actually |
| 08:13.07 | Megalon | hrhr |
| 08:13.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Cyrez: sounds like it'd automatically refer to the nearest cloth/leather wearer |
| 08:13.41 | Cyrez | Eh, MT. >< |
| 08:13.49 | Cryect | hmmm, well find out what addon is trying to setup a unit to be used called Chewie instead of a real unit |
| 08:14.21 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34973 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - update Hunter spell data |
| 08:14.39 | ckknight | Cryect: grep -ir Chewie * |
| 08:15.19 | Megalon | Wrigleys.lua |
| 08:15.22 | Megalon | :c |
| 08:15.31 | Fisker- | [2007/05/10 10:14:40-958-x1]: PitBull_Aura\Aura.lua:575: Babble-Spell-2.2: Translation "Arcane Torrent" does not exist. |
| 08:15.31 | Fisker- | :o |
| 08:15.55 | CIA-23 | 03evl * r34974 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 08:15.56 | CIA-23 | PitBull |
| 08:15.56 | CIA-23 | - added Rogue spell data |
| 08:16.08 | Fisker- | work in progress? :) |
| 08:16.14 | evl | mine is, i'm at work :P |
| 08:16.25 | evl | good thing one of my coworkers left so I got his spot in the corner! |
| 08:16.26 | evl | :D |
| 08:16.26 | ckknight | yes, Fisker- |
| 08:16.34 | Fisker- | alright |
| 08:16.51 | Elkano | ckknight, would it be possible to add a flag to notes to have them shown in the zoomed out map view, too? |
| 08:17.03 | Elkano | on a per note/db base |
| 08:17.05 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: bah, my last job the guy with the corner cubical left, and it just sat empty. they wouldnt let me take it >< |
| 08:17.07 | a-stray-cat | oh |
| 08:17.09 | a-stray-cat | its a macro |
| 08:17.13 | ckknight | Elkano: should show in both |
| 08:17.15 | a-stray-cat | thats breaking it, where i have [target=chewie] |
| 08:17.27 | evl | ckknight: I had some issues yesterday while testing combo text; sometimes when you use another layout that inherits from ABF you sometimes don't get menus for some units |
| 08:17.30 | CIA-23 | 03norova * r34975 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (CustomFilters.lua PlayerNames.lua): Prat: Update zhTW |
| 08:17.36 | ckknight | evl: hrm |
| 08:17.38 | a-stray-cat | its now spazzing out on the grounding totem one :/ |
| 08:17.54 | Elkano | ckknight: I mean on the zone overview map; they don't show there for me |
| 08:17.56 | ckknight | everyone tell me precisely what translations are missing |
| 08:18.03 | nymbia | a-stray-cat: those will work in 2.1 |
| 08:18.06 | ckknight | Elkano: odd, I dunno, and am busy |
| 08:18.17 | nymbia | a-stray-cat: target=personsname |
| 08:18.23 | Elkano | sure, just wanted to ask/note ^^ |
| 08:18.40 | a-stray-cat | well, thats whats exploding atm |
| 08:18.43 | a-stray-cat | in 2.1 ;O |
| 08:18.50 | a-stray-cat | now its whining about a cast sequence |
| 08:18.53 | nymbia | oh, odd |
| 08:18.55 | a-stray-cat | perhaps ive done something wrong |
| 08:19.06 | a-stray-cat | nterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:872: bad argument #1 to 'strmatch' (string expected, got nil): |
| 08:19.07 | a-stray-cat | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:872: in function `QueryCastSequence': |
| 08:19.09 | Megalon | nymbia: time for odd playernames, targettarget, focustarget, focus.. etc :P |
| 08:19.28 | a-stray-cat | i tried to roll one named player, it said invalid name :< |
| 08:19.52 | nymbia | somethin's borked then |
| 08:20.43 | a-stray-cat | my Steady Shot Auto Shot macro was causing it to complain |
| 08:20.47 | Fisker- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31342 <-hehe can't believe someone would actually pay 2000g for it :o |
| 08:21.17 | Fisker- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27538 is almost just as good |
| 08:21.24 | a-stray-cat | ./castsequence [harm,nodead] reset=3 Steady Shot, Auto Shot |
| 08:21.31 | a-stray-cat | makes it error on every onupdate :/ |
| 08:21.38 | evl | Fisker-: I paid 1800g for The Night Blade |
| 08:21.50 | evl | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31331 |
| 08:22.00 | evl | granted the item ID alone almost spells ELEET |
| 08:22.09 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34976 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - added "Arcane Torrent" |
| 08:22.12 | Fisker- | almost doesn't cut it |
| 08:22.16 | Fisker- | and the night blade is good |
| 08:22.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: disposable income, no desire to run instances over and over and have it not drop, and ~70 +heal makes it worth it to some people *shrug* |
| 08:22.25 | evl | Same here |
| 08:22.26 | ckknight | Fisker-: k |
| 08:22.27 | evl | I have 6k cash |
| 08:22.29 | evl | I can't use it on shit |
| 08:22.37 | evl | I make around 250g a day on just gem cutting |
| 08:22.47 | Fisker- | only +55 on live NightHawkTheSane :P |
| 08:23.03 | evl | JC is nice, you just log in spam trade and you don't require any reagents :P |
| 08:23.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: goddamn wowhead. |
| 08:23.28 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 08:23.34 | Fisker- | it's annoying as hell |
| 08:23.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: in any case, personally, I'd still rather just grind for Gavel of Pure Light, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29175, but meh, to each their own. |
| 08:24.31 | Fisker- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28522 <-counting on this |
| 08:24.46 | Fisker- | granted that feral druids don't keep taking it when it actually drops |
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| 08:25.00 | NightHawkTheSane | lol, lame |
| 08:25.21 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r34977 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 08:25.21 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 08:25.21 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 08:25.21 | Fisker- | I think he only did it to get after me |
| 08:25.40 | NightHawkTheSane | probably, isnt that the one that whined when you took the healing cloak? |
| 08:25.41 | Fisker- | Apparently he wants to spec resto at a point, so he was pissed when i earlier took the red riding hood cloak |
| 08:25.46 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 08:26.32 | NightHawkTheSane | I should spec resto on my shaman |
| 08:30.12 | evl | resto shamans in heroic are like... |
| 08:30.18 | evl | yum |
| 08:31.20 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower|ZZzz (i=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 08:31.48 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34978 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add "Boar Charge", "Feed Pet Effect", "Fire Breath", "Poison Spit", and "Warp" |
| 08:32.29 | evl | ckknight: about item effects, adding item bonuses that give haste etc. would make that module incredibly bloaty |
| 08:32.37 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:32.42 | ckknight | potentially. |
| 08:32.56 | ckknight | maybe just the tier ones? |
| 08:33.00 | ckknight | dunno |
| 08:33.08 | evl | Well why? Most peiople use a lot of crafted |
| 08:33.16 | evl | I suggest leaving items out entirely |
| 08:33.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Honestly, I think you can just ignore item based buffs |
| 08:33.18 | ckknight | honestly, I dunno |
| 08:33.33 | ckknight | the point of all this is to provide all the info you need and none that you don't |
| 08:34.08 | CIA-23 | 03next96 * r34979 10/branches/Cartographer_Vendors/: |
| 08:34.09 | CIA-23 | Cartographer_Vendors : |
| 08:34.09 | CIA-23 | - delete |
| 08:36.25 | Fisker- | lol |
| 08:36.33 | nuoHep | evl, you forgot wounding poison |
| 08:36.45 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=287009467&sid=1 <-i lol'd |
| 08:36.46 | evl | no i didn't |
| 08:37.35 | *** join/#wowace snirks (n=opera@213.225.93.250) |
| 08:38.05 | CIA-23 | 03evl * r34980 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 08:38.05 | CIA-23 | PitBull |
| 08:38.05 | CIA-23 | - i did not have sexual relations with Wound Poison. |
| 08:38.20 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:38.29 | NightHawkTheSane | LIES |
| 08:38.55 | snirks | lols |
| 08:39.49 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34981 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add "Cripple" |
| 08:39.56 | nuoHep | and there is also double ghostly in selfBuffs |
| 08:41.07 | evl | Well I was tired, and Tortoise just ate my commit |
| 08:42.07 | CIA-23 | 03evl * r34982 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 08:42.07 | CIA-23 | PitBull |
| 08:42.07 | CIA-23 | - removed duplicate Ghostly Strike. |
| 08:42.42 | knarf^_^ | I feel spoiled, I got a 22" widescreen, LCD as birthday present :> |
| 08:43.02 | evl | Spoiled is good, I live in an entire country of it |
| 08:43.14 | Cyrez | Was your birthday yesterday? |
| 08:43.20 | knarf^_^ | Cyrez yep |
| 08:43.30 | ckknight | evl: but Paris Hilton's going to jail now. |
| 08:43.33 | Cyrez | It was my roommate's as well. ^^ |
| 08:43.36 | snirks | evl: norway? |
| 08:43.46 | knarf^_^ | Cyrez :) |
| 08:43.58 | evl | snirks: Yeah |
| 08:44.06 | snirks | hvordan visste jeg |
| 08:44.08 | ckknight | ah |
| 08:44.29 | evl | ckknight: She's not going to jail :( |
| 08:44.39 | ckknight | she's not? |
| 08:44.41 | ckknight | wtf |
| 08:44.50 | ckknight | link |
| 08:44.55 | ckknight | last I heard she was. |
| 08:45.08 | Fisker- | lame :( |
| 08:45.17 | ckknight | actually, the hearing's on Friday |
| 08:45.21 | evl | I dunno but chances are she's not |
| 08:45.48 | ckknight | evl: third offense, though. |
| 08:46.04 | ckknight | she was already on probation |
| 08:46.06 | [Ammo] | just put her in the chair and be done with it |
| 08:46.18 | [Ammo] | but jail might be good for her |
| 08:48.22 | Cyrez | Oh, Paris? |
| 08:48.49 | Stephmw | mornin |
| 08:49.26 | Cyrez | Yeah, there's kinda 3 groups: "Free her!", "Why the Hell are you even talking about her?", and "Fry her ass!" |
| 08:50.36 | ckknight | latter for me |
| 08:51.00 | ckknight | and according to a non-scientific poll done by MSNBC, 96% of people agree with me |
| 08:51.28 | ckknight | really, most of it is Schadenfreude at work |
| 08:52.13 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, most of that 96% -is- schadenfreude, as about 95% of people should be fried along with her. |
| 08:52.44 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34983 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - added "Symbol of Hope" |
| 08:53.04 | Cyrez | She's a waste of space. Like that time she ran into somebody's PARKED car in that parking garage while a camera was rolling. |
| 08:53.36 | ckknight | I liked her in House of Wax |
| 08:53.42 | ckknight | she died :-) |
| 08:54.01 | Cyrez | She gives blondes -Rep. |
| 08:59.12 | *** join/#wowace m4rku5 (n=markus@snapper.fim.uni-passau.de) |
| 09:00.42 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34984 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add "Frostbrand Attack" |
| 09:00.51 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34985 10PT3Browser/ (. PT3Browser ReadMe.html PT3Browser.toc): |
| 09:00.51 | CIA-23 | PT3Browser: |
| 09:00.51 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:01.19 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34986 10PitBull_InteractLines/ (. GPLv2.txt PitBull_InteractLines.toc): |
| 09:01.19 | CIA-23 | PitBull_InteractLines: |
| 09:01.19 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:01.37 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34987 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/ (. GPLv2.txt PitBull_EstimatedHeals.toc): |
| 09:01.37 | CIA-23 | PitBull_EstimatedHeals: |
| 09:01.38 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:02.47 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34988 10Tattle/ (. GPLv2.txt Tattle.toc): |
| 09:02.47 | CIA-23 | Tattle: |
| 09:02.47 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:02.59 | Elkano | error in QuestFu: FuBar_QuestsFu-r34916\Sound\Sound.lua:170: attempt to index local 'sounds' (a nil value) |
| 09:03.16 | nymbia | i wonder if i can make it to 35000 with just these |
| 09:03.37 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:04.07 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34989 10PT3Bar/ (. PT3Bar ReadMe.html PT3Bar.toc): |
| 09:04.07 | CIA-23 | PT3Bar: |
| 09:04.07 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:04.21 | nymbia | bleh, looks like it'll be one short |
| 09:04.27 | nymbia | or two even |
| 09:04.53 | Fisker- | you could make one fixing Blood Guard Porung and another one datamining him |
| 09:04.55 | Fisker- | *cough* |
| 09:05.34 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34990 10ManufacSnoop/ (. Manufac ReadMe.html ManufacSnoop.toc): |
| 09:05.34 | CIA-23 | ManufacSnoop: |
| 09:05.34 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:05.38 | nymbia | Fisker-: i did ;p |
| 09:06.00 | Fisker- | zomg |
| 09:06.00 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34991 10Sniff/Sniff.toc: |
| 09:06.01 | CIA-23 | Sniff: |
| 09:06.01 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:06.28 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34992 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.toc: |
| 09:06.28 | CIA-23 | GrindStatus: |
| 09:06.28 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:06.30 | Fisker- | what was the problem then? :P |
| 09:06.45 | nymbia | Fisker-: a capital 'D' where it shoulda been 'd' |
| 09:06.59 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34993 10StatStain/StatStain.toc: |
| 09:06.59 | CIA-23 | StatStain: |
| 09:06.59 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:07.10 | Fisker- | sounds like a beginners mistake to em |
| 09:07.12 | Fisker- | me |
| 09:07.29 | nymbia | Fisker-: true. |
| 09:08.26 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34994 10Doodle/ (Doodle ReadMe.html Doodle.toc): |
| 09:08.26 | CIA-23 | Doodle: |
| 09:08.26 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:08.43 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34995 10StitchUI/StitchUI.toc: |
| 09:08.43 | CIA-23 | StitchUI: |
| 09:08.43 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:09.29 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34996 10ArenaPointer/ (ArenaPointer ReadMe.html ArenaPointer.toc): |
| 09:09.29 | CIA-23 | ArenaPointer: |
| 09:09.29 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:09.47 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34997 10Manufac/Manufac.toc: |
| 09:09.48 | CIA-23 | Manufac: |
| 09:09.48 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:09.54 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34998 10Quartz/Quartz.toc: |
| 09:09.54 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 09:09.54 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:10.42 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34999 10MobMitigation/MobMitigation.toc: |
| 09:10.43 | CIA-23 | MobMitigation: |
| 09:10.43 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:10.47 | nymbia | this next commit better be amazing |
| 09:11.12 | Fisker- | Think i'm gonna make a folder named "IWin35000Commit" |
| 09:11.27 | nymbia | actually i should do my libraries too |
| 09:11.36 | Health_ | Boring! |
| 09:11.50 | krka | health is correct! |
| 09:12.00 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 09:12.06 | nymbia | fine! |
| 09:12.18 | nymbia | i'll wait for this amazing commit before doing those, then |
| 09:12.21 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r35000 10XPBarNone/XPBarNone.toc: |
| 09:12.21 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 09:12.21 | CIA-23 | - 35000 GET? |
| 09:12.27 | Silviu- | :)) |
| 09:12.29 | nymbia | rofl |
| 09:12.40 | ckknight | phyber: that was uncouth |
| 09:12.52 | phyber | ckknight: true. SVN abuse :( |
| 09:13.05 | Elkano | damn you phyber, you stole my idea :/ |
| 09:13.15 | Fisker- | no Elkano |
| 09:13.18 | Fisker- | It was my idea :( |
| 09:13.41 | Fisker- | anyways Elkano |
| 09:13.47 | Elkano | no you! |
| 09:13.48 | Fisker- | I have some slavery and death for you |
| 09:13.49 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:14.07 | Fisker- | if you were a second later that would've looked better |
| 09:14.40 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35001 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - "Shadow Step" => "Shadowstep" |
| 09:14.58 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35002 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add "Deadly Interrupt Effect" and "Garrote - Silence" |
| 09:15.03 | evl | The spell isn't the same as the buff ckk |
| 09:15.23 | ckknight | seriously? |
| 09:15.45 | ckknight | evl: it doesn't show up in thottbot or wowhead |
| 09:15.45 | phyber | are any of you doing Black Temple on the PTR? Wondering if anyone found mobs with new Vulnerabilities so that I can add them to TopScoreFu :) |
| 09:15.53 | Fisker- | Isn't it also the last 2 ranks of garotte that silences? :P |
| 09:16.50 | evl | yes |
| 09:17.09 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35003 10Stitch-1.1/Stitch-1.1.toc: |
| 09:17.09 | CIA-23 | Stitch-1.1: |
| 09:17.09 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:17.24 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35004 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.toc: |
| 09:17.24 | CIA-23 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 09:17.25 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:18.51 | nymbia | oh there's the one i missed |
| 09:19.03 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35005 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.toc: |
| 09:19.03 | CIA-23 | SpellBinder: |
| 09:19.03 | CIA-23 | - Standardize some toc and wiki stuff among my addons. |
| 09:19.15 | nymbia | sneaky bugger. |
| 09:20.38 | Fisker- | anyone know if Microsoft hosts windows vista 64 bit for download? |
| 09:21.43 | Fisker- | anyways Elkano i was thinking if there was any way to make like box of buffs instead of a long list |
| 09:21.49 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35006 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.toc: |
| 09:21.49 | CIA-23 | PT3Browser: |
| 09:21.49 | CIA-23 | - Missed toc tweaks |
| 09:21.53 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35007 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.toc: |
| 09:21.53 | CIA-23 | PitBull_EstimatedHeals: |
| 09:21.53 | CIA-23 | - Missed toc tweaks |
| 09:21.59 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35008 10PitBull_InteractLines/PitBull_InteractLines.toc: |
| 09:21.59 | CIA-23 | PitBull_InteractLines: |
| 09:21.59 | CIA-23 | - Missed toc tweaks |
| 09:22.08 | Fisker- | like i can only have 4 buffs vertically and it goes to the left/right and starts the buffs from there |
| 09:22.22 | [Ammo] | nymbia: are you already working on a mirrorbar for quartz? |
| 09:22.27 | [Ammo] | or I should say mirrorbarS |
| 09:22.39 | nymbia | [Ammo]: i havent started one, no |
| 09:22.48 | Fisker- | No you should say mirrorbars(hoho i'm funny?) |
| 09:23.30 | *** join/#wowace |MoX|Padwa| (n=abrakada@mail.emural.ru) |
| 09:24.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Fisker-: sure, if you have an MSDN Net subscription. Other than that, I dunno. |
| 09:24.47 | Elkano | is the "Reenforced" bonus from armor packs multiplied by the bear bonus? |
| 09:25.06 | Fisker- | damn |
| 09:25.22 | Fisker- | Downloading by torrent is sooo slow |
| 09:25.25 | CIA-23 | 03jerry * r35009 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: update frFR and spell icons |
| 09:25.29 | Fisker- | especially since 64-bit isn't that widespread |
| 09:26.03 | CIA-23 | 03kemayo * r35010 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Sound/Sound.lua: |
| 09:26.03 | CIA-23 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 09:26.03 | CIA-23 | -Sound: One of these days I'll remember when I change a function's arguments, honestly. |
| 09:27.26 | sylvanaar | Elkano you around? |
| 09:27.33 | Elkano | no ;) |
| 09:27.33 | Fisker- | Just silly that they have 30-day trials on windows when you can't actually download it :P |
| 09:27.39 | Fisker- | he's hiding from me |
| 09:27.50 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35011 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - slight optimization |
| 09:28.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Aaaahh! Commit spam! |
| 09:28.18 | *** join/#wowace Joass (n=joss@r4bx107.net.upc.cz) |
| 09:28.32 | Fisker- | moar |
| 09:28.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Quick! Everyone say what they did on their summer holidays! :) |
| 09:28.46 | nymbia | Kirkburn|afk: i didnt do it |
| 09:28.51 | Fisker- | caused chernobyl |
| 09:28.54 | ckknight | summer starts in a few days |
| 09:29.04 | Fisker- | lucky you :( |
| 09:29.16 | Fisker- | I don't have summer holiday for like 1½ month |
| 09:29.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Can I just call him a bastard? |
| 09:29.18 | theoddone33 | summer is here and I've got a cold :( |
| 09:30.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Well .... I've got lectures and I want to sleep |
| 09:30.49 | Elkano | sylvanaar, what is it? |
| 09:31.29 | Kirkburn|afk | An elephant? A pot-bellied pig!? A banana!? A third-rate comedian!? |
| 09:32.51 | nymbia | that sounds painful |
| 09:35.25 | Kirkburn|afk | It is, it is |
| 09:39.13 | Fisker- | btw sylvanaar |
| 09:39.23 | Fisker- | the sound module is still going nuts here |
| 09:39.45 | Tem|AFK | Fisker-, what's rule #1? |
| 09:40.29 | Fisker- | You do not talk about /b/ |
| 09:40.36 | Fisker- | What's rule #2? |
| 09:40.47 | Tem|AFK | You do not talk about /b/ |
| 09:40.52 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 09:40.53 | Tem|AFK | What's rule #34? |
| 09:41.06 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r35012 10kEnergy/ (Libs/ addon.lua kEnergy.toc tick.lua): |
| 09:41.06 | CIA-23 | kEnergy: |
| 09:41.06 | CIA-23 | - Replace Metrognome with some intelligent AceEvent usage. |
| 09:41.06 | CIA-23 | - Replace Surfacelib with SharedMedialib |
| 09:41.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Actually rule #2 is: You DO NOT talk about /b/ |
| 09:41.16 | Fisker- | If it exists there's porn of it |
| 09:41.26 | Tem|AFK | and the corollary? |
| 09:41.33 | Elkano | what is smaller? "" or true? |
| 09:41.39 | Tem|AFK | Elkano, true |
| 09:41.51 | Tem|AFK | boolean = 1 bit |
| 09:41.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Who is smaller? Tem|AFK or Elkano? |
| 09:41.56 | Elkano | k |
| 09:42.11 | Tem|AFK | Fisker-, what's the corollary |
| 09:42.29 | Fisker- | it's not like i'm english or anything |
| 09:42.33 | Fisker- | i have no idea what corollary means :P |
| 09:42.40 | Tem|AFK | if there is not porn of it, it does not exist |
| 09:43.09 | Fisker- | ah |
| 09:43.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Fisker-, something to do with the heart, innit? |
| 09:43.17 | Fisker- | now i know what corollary means :P |
| 09:43.25 | Tem|AFK | http://www.bartleby.com/61/28/C0652800.html |
| 09:43.44 | Elkano | Tem|AFK, that's the contraposition ^^ |
| 09:43.55 | Tem|AFK | Elkano, technically, yes |
| 09:44.06 | Tem|AFK | I've called a square a rectangle |
| 09:44.20 | ZealotOnAStick | a square IS a rectangle. |
| 09:44.27 | Elkano | how dare you? it's a polynome |
| 09:44.27 | Tem|AFK | that's correct |
| 09:44.32 | ZealotOnAStick | But a Rectangle isn't necessarily a square. |
| 09:44.37 | Tem|AFK | but it's not the most specific answer |
| 09:44.51 | Tem|AFK | thereis |
| 09:44.54 | Tem|AFK | I promise |
| 09:45.08 | Fisker- | Elkano ! |
| 09:45.13 | ZealotOnAStick | So, like what, you write someone's name, and they die of fatal orgasm? |
| 09:45.16 | sylvanaar | Elkano what is overrideMedia |
| 09:45.41 | Elkano | if set it will be returned no matter what you fetch iirc |
| 09:45.46 | Tem|AFK | ZealotOnAStick, until I read or watch Death Note, I'm going to have to castrate you if you spew spoilers |
| 09:45.57 | Tem|AFK | speaking of which |
| 09:45.59 | Tem|AFK | SPIKE DIES |
| 09:46.06 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35013 10Quartz/GCD.lua: |
| 09:46.06 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 09:46.06 | CIA-23 | - Bugfix in GCD spell assignment. |
| 09:46.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Is there a Death Note anime or manga? |
| 09:46.17 | ZealotOnAStick | I watched the movie last night. |
| 09:46.22 | Tem|AFK | I'm pretty sure there is |
| 09:46.23 | ZealotOnAStick | I was expecting it to be an anime. |
| 09:46.24 | ZealotOnAStick | It wasn't. |
| 09:46.47 | Tem|AFK | l2wikipedia |
| 09:46.54 | Tem|AFK | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note |
| 09:46.57 | sylvanaar | Fisker- what did you say about the sounds module? |
| 09:47.17 | Tem|AFK | nymbia, what's quartz? |
| 09:47.27 | Tem|AFK | (and don't you _dare_ say a mineral) |
| 09:47.36 | CIA-23 | 03cncfanatics * r35014 10FlexBar2/ (15 files): FlexBar2: Preparing for rewrite |
| 09:47.39 | Tem|AFK | (or is it a rock?) |
| 09:47.40 | sylvanaar | the measure by which one consumes beer |
| 09:47.49 | Tem|AFK | lol |
| 09:47.50 | Tem|AFK | nice |
| 09:47.51 | nymbia | Tem|AFK: castbar |
| 09:47.55 | Fisker- | sylvanaar it keeps doing the repeated beeps |
| 09:48.05 | Tem|AFK | mm |
| 09:48.10 | Kirkburn|afk | A mineral. |
| 09:48.14 | nymbia | that too |
| 09:48.20 | Fisker- | sometimes it also goes into the future and beeps before i recieve a message |
| 09:48.24 | Tem|AFK | ...with a dull spoon |
| 09:48.26 | Fisker- | (which is probably just lag) |
| 09:48.42 | sylvanaar | spam filter? |
| 09:48.50 | Tem|AFK | ... which is also rusty |
| 09:49.00 | Fisker- | it should be disabled |
| 09:49.03 | Fisker- | can just check though |
| 09:49.45 | Fisker- | btw ckknight if you don't know it you forgot Mana Tap as well :P |
| 09:50.06 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 09:50.09 | Fisker- | was enabled |
| 09:51.09 | sylvanaar | that is your spam filter delaying the message |
| 09:52.13 | Elkano | ok, reported a gold spammer wit [no reply nedded] added... result was that a gm whispered me telling me he sent me a mail... |
| 09:52.26 | Fisker- | cool |
| 09:52.34 | Fisker- | yeah they do that Elkano |
| 09:52.45 | Fisker- | you can link recipes on PTR :O |
| 09:52.46 | winkiller | they don't ask "may i discuss it with oyu" |
| 09:53.05 | winkiller | to just say "noted" |
| 10:00.49 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35015 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add "Mana Tap" |
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| 10:07.14 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-117-68.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:07.19 | *** part/#wowace a-stray-cat (n=a-stray-@adsl-75-26-188-186.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) |
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| 10:09.16 | ckknight | Fisker-: should work now |
| 10:11.01 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:15.20 | Silviu- | ckknight u had one time an horde leveling guide, u have for ally too ? ;) |
| 10:15.28 | ckknight | yep |
| 10:15.41 | Silviu- | Cool, can u send it to me pls ? ;) |
| 10:16.39 | ckknight | email? |
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| 10:25.20 | Silviu- | gmail is slow i think |
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| 10:28.38 | ckknight | okay, so I want to add more stuff to DogTag |
| 10:28.43 | ckknight | mostly out of boredom |
| 10:28.46 | ckknight | anyone have any ideas? |
| 10:31.51 | Stephmw | a game of Connect4 ? |
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| 10:33.22 | evl | ckknight: PitBull: Hide in Battleground |
| 10:33.59 | ckknight | but I like PitBull in battlegrounds |
| 10:34.13 | evl | an option |
| 10:34.13 | evl | :) |
| 10:34.24 | evl | so I won't get 40 raid frames in AV |
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| 10:35.07 | ckknight | AV is lame anyways |
| 10:36.03 | ckknight | :-P |
| 10:38.41 | moonsorrow | what happened to OminousCastingBar? |
| 10:41.53 | Silviu- | Deleted |
| 10:42.50 | moonsorrow | yeah, and why? |
| 10:44.39 | Silviu- | From his message i understand that is not working, and don`t have time to update it :) |
| 10:44.46 | snirks | test |
| 10:45.38 | Stephmw | test failed. |
| 10:46.15 | snirks | ada |
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| 10:53.13 | Sole | goddamn, just when I thought Id have a night of coding I have to spend it dissassembling/assembling parts from three comps |
| 10:54.32 | nymbia | sounds fun O.o |
| 10:54.37 | Sole | oh boy |
| 10:54.54 | Sole | staring at my old comp with a new PSU in it and wondering why the fek it wont display anything was fun |
| 10:55.00 | Sole | turns out I plugged in the wrong power cable |
| 10:55.09 | Sole | theyre identical, but one makes it work and the other doesnt |
| 10:56.08 | Sole | and now I gotta get my new comp out of its snuggly, well packed, hard to fucking plug the wires back in position just to get the 2nd harddrive from it and pop it back in my old comp |
| 10:56.19 | Sole | all my porn is on it too |
| 10:56.23 | Sole | so I gotta wait for that shit to copy =\ |
| 10:56.31 | Sole | taking way too long |
| 10:57.41 | nymbia | rofl |
| 10:58.04 | CIA-23 | 03totalpackage * r35016 10Capping/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:58.04 | CIA-23 | Capping |
| 10:58.04 | CIA-23 | - added koKR localization provided by McKabi |
| 10:58.29 | Sole | so I started learning python tonight |
| 10:58.37 | Sole | it reminds me of lua |
| 10:59.07 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35017 10Quartz/GCD.lua: |
| 10:59.07 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 10:59.07 | CIA-23 | - Kill the bar properly if the global cooldown was cancelled (by line of sight for example) |
| 10:59.08 | Sole | I figure I shouldnt jump to IronPython yet |
| 11:01.35 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35018 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 11:01.35 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura - instead of using UnitBuff for the player, use the GetPlayerBuff* functions. In doing so, when hovering over the buff/debuff, it'll show how much time is left. Could be useful. |
| 11:01.35 | CIA-23 | - Potentially, I'll be able to put the time remaining on the buffs/debuffs themselves, though I may wait till WoW 2.1 to bother. |
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| 11:03.33 | nymbia | just dont implement it like blizz did, ckknight ;) |
| 11:03.45 | ckknight | Blizz uses huge numbers and looks kinda icky |
| 11:03.46 | nymbia | numbers all overlapping and shit.. |
| 11:03.58 | ckknight | I was thinking just having the numbers scale to the width of the aura |
| 11:04.05 | Sole | blizz has numbers on the debuff icons now? |
| 11:04.13 | ckknight | yes, Sole |
| 11:04.13 | nymbia | Sole: 2.1 |
| 11:04.34 | Sole | in 2.1 I havent seen the numbers |
| 11:04.36 | Sole | only the cooldown model |
| 11:04.57 | nymbia | that's what it uses afaik |
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| 11:10.04 | nymbia | Silviu-: oh yeah, i'm used to those options injecting themselves ;) |
| 11:11.23 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 11:11.51 | Silviu- | Must position it in different places on different chars :) |
| 11:12.06 | nymbia | yeah definitely |
| 11:12.27 | nymbia | it just hadn't crossed my mind that that stuff wasnt accessible ;) |
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| 11:19.34 | Sole | SHOOT ME |
| 11:19.38 | Sole | I JUST DELETED ALL MY PORN! |
| 11:19.42 | Sole | FUCK! |
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| 11:20.14 | yacoob | Why worry? There's plenty of fishes in the sea...? |
| 11:20.23 | Sole | yeah but this stuff was good |
| 11:20.40 | Sole | compiled over a long time |
| 11:20.50 | ckknight | meh |
| 11:20.53 | Sole | oh well |
| 11:20.54 | ckknight | porn is only useful once for me |
| 11:20.58 | ckknight | then after that, it's tainted |
| 11:20.59 | ckknight | forever |
| 11:21.10 | Sole | this can be the beginning of something new |
| 11:21.29 | Sole | guess I'll just stream ^^ |
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| 11:22.22 | Worf | well - there is professional data recovery... :) |
| 11:23.39 | nymbia | rofl |
| 11:23.46 | Sole | lol |
| 11:23.48 | Sole | hmm |
| 11:23.54 | Sole | I actually have a program that can do that |
| 11:23.59 | Sole | but its not reliable |
| 11:24.05 | Sole | and it brings back half corrupted files |
| 11:24.07 | Sole | so screw it |
| 11:24.09 | Sole | whats gone is gone |
| 11:24.35 | Worf | but maybe you should invest into proper porn storage on some redundant raid array and a adequate porn backup strategy :) |
| 11:24.54 | Sole | maybe I shouldnt copy over a directory to another harddrive |
| 11:25.04 | yacoob | corrupted files = titless porn |
| 11:25.12 | Sole | and then THINK Im deleting the old directory when Im deleting the new one |
| 11:25.17 | Sole | and then go and delete the old one |
| 11:25.22 | yacoob | just use snapshots |
| 11:25.46 | Worf | yeah... for example with zfs... |
| 11:26.03 | Sole | o_O |
| 11:26.08 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35019 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 11:26.08 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 11:26.08 | CIA-23 | - Make sure profile options get injected in the options table. |
| 11:26.09 | CIA-23 | - Register a second chat command (/quartzcl, not that it matters) so that a) the options get injected and b) config is available through universal-config addons like Niagara and DeuceCommander. |
| 11:26.21 | evl | nymbia: plans for a mirrored version? |
| 11:26.39 | nymbia | evl: there will be ;) |
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| 11:27.57 | evl | anyone else here using oCD? |
| 11:28.11 | evl | wondering if I should bother hacking in an arena preparation thingy |
| 11:28.15 | Silviu- | <3 nymbia |
| 11:28.36 | nymbia | :) |
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| 11:33.24 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35020 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_RegenFu.toc: FuBar_RegenFu: Removed RequiredDep on FuBar. FuBar is now listed in the LoadManagers field. |
| 11:33.58 | nymbia | oh, i should do that |
| 11:34.14 | sylvanaar | i need an icon for regenfu |
| 11:34.23 | CIA-23 | 03pettigrow * r35021 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: frFR Update |
| 11:34.25 | Kirkburn | Why did you choose the name "Quartz"? |
| 11:34.52 | sylvanaar | anyone know of a good one i can use? |
| 11:35.09 | nymbia | Kirkburn: seemed like a good idea at the time ;) |
| 11:35.25 | nymbia | Kirkburn: something vaugely clock-ish seemed good |
| 11:36.41 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35022 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.toc: |
| 11:36.41 | CIA-23 | PT3Browser: |
| 11:36.41 | CIA-23 | - Set LoadManagers to FuBar |
| 11:37.26 | Sole | Quartz has always been associated with a stone/gem for me |
| 11:37.43 | Sole | nymbia: did you take a look at the gladiator code/ |
| 11:37.58 | nymbia | Sole: yeah, that too. it's shiny, dammit |
| 11:38.26 | nymbia | Sole: a little bit, but i didnt play any games tonight so i couldnt do any debugging on the comm stuff |
| 11:38.38 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35023 10Sniff/Sniff.toc: |
| 11:38.39 | CIA-23 | Sniff: |
| 11:38.39 | CIA-23 | - Set LoadManagers to FuBar |
| 11:39.30 | Sole | whoa |
| 11:39.40 | Sole | hella deleted oCB and RapidCast ...Quartz looks like the shiz |
| 11:39.53 | nymbia | hehe :) |
| 11:40.40 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35024 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_Regen.lua: FuBar_RegenFu: Reuse 5sec icon for regenfu |
| 11:41.03 | Sole | err nymb, its not showing up in WAU for me |
| 11:41.22 | nymbia | Sole: huh.. that's odd. try reloading your index maybe? |
| 11:41.38 | Sole | fixed |
| 11:41.45 | Sole | silly me |
| 11:41.46 | nymbia | hit it with a stick? |
| 11:41.49 | nymbia | ah |
| 11:42.01 | Sole | < never noticed that WAU stores the index in a cache |
| 11:42.13 | Sole | thought it always got the latest from the wowace server on load up |
| 11:42.23 | Silviu- | Sole u should wait 5 more mins :P |
| 11:42.29 | Sole | why |
| 11:42.29 | Silviu- | To get latest vers :P |
| 11:42.38 | Silviu- | [14:26:49] <F'CIA-23> nymbia * r35019 Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 11:42.41 | Kirkburn | nymbia, I really like the name :) |
| 11:42.41 | nymbia | that's just the profile stuff |
| 11:42.51 | nymbia | Kirkburn: thanks :D |
| 11:43.09 | Sole | hmm |
| 11:43.23 | Sole | so is the ace2 standard on embeds switching to embeds.xml yet? |
| 11:43.29 | Sole | or is that still under research? |
| 11:44.19 | nymbia | not the standard |
| 11:44.24 | nymbia | but use it if you'd like ;) |
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| 11:46.08 | Sole | hmm |
| 11:46.10 | Sole | so as I understand it |
| 11:46.21 | Sole | a 20% load increase if libs are disembeded |
| 11:46.53 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar 072.1.0 * r35025 10FuBar_RegenFu/: FuBar_RegenFu: 2.1.0 for release on toc 20003 |
| 11:47.00 | nymbia | Sole: if embeds.xml is commented out |
| 11:47.15 | Sole | yes |
| 11:47.21 | nymbia | Sole: the same can be achieved if you comment out the lib lines the the toc |
| 11:47.31 | Sole | yeah but thats a hassle |
| 11:47.50 | sylvanaar | using xml has a few advantages if done properly |
| 11:47.58 | nymbia | yeah. the advantage i see with embeds.xml is that WAU could easily auto-comment that line for disembedders |
| 11:48.06 | sylvanaar | one being that you can include it from something else |
| 11:48.07 | koaschten | hmmm is there a reason why pt3 doesnt have a vashj loottable? |
| 11:48.29 | nymbia | koaschten: is there a table on wowhead? |
| 11:48.55 | koaschten | running a scriptto automagically fill the table? aah k. |
| 11:49.07 | Fisker- | wut r embeds.xml? :o |
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| 11:49.23 | sylvanaar | its like a toc that you can include in another toc |
| 11:49.40 | koaschten | but well, loot is there and vashj is listed either, its just not associated to each other... wowhead slackers :X |
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| 11:52.36 | Worf | btw - any important news from the "pet support" front in the last weeks? It seems to be in lot's of peoples todo but other than that it seems quite quiet about that... |
| 11:52.45 | evl | Any way to list all candy bars in a group? |
| 11:53.06 | nymbia | Worf: how do you mean? |
| 11:53.29 | Sole | evl: should be |
| 11:54.28 | Worf | for example i was hoping for pet support in grid, XRS, etc... |
| 11:54.40 | Sole | evl: group = CandyBar.groups[name] for k, v in pairs(group) do foo... end |
| 11:54.53 | nymbia | Worf: taken a look at PitBull? |
| 11:54.59 | Sole | evl: forget that |
| 11:55.00 | sylvanaar | well theres no need to remove that line because when you disembed you remove the file |
| 11:55.12 | Sole | evil: group = CandyBar.groups[name] for k, v in pairs(group.bars) do foo... end |
| 11:55.14 | Worf | nymbia: nope... reading... |
| 11:55.45 | Sole | sylvanaar: so the embeds.xml is inside the libs folder? |
| 11:55.49 | evl | Sole: thanks |
| 11:55.50 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 11:56.09 | Sole | sylvanaar: so it still generates 1 FrameXML.log entry as I understand, correct? |
| 11:56.11 | Sole | evl: :) |
| 11:56.20 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 11:56.27 | evl | Sole: but when an addon uses CandyBar, would I use self.Groups then? |
| 11:56.35 | Sole | evl: no |
| 11:56.47 | Sole | evl: use the CandyBar object |
| 11:57.01 | evl | It gets registered globally when an addon uses it? |
| 11:57.06 | Sole | evl: si |
| 11:57.13 | Sole | I think... |
| 11:57.31 | nymbia | AceLibrary('CandyBar-2.0').groups maybe |
| 11:57.42 | nymbia | but i'm sure you've got a local reference to that |
| 11:57.53 | Sole | well candybar is a mixin |
| 11:58.04 | Sole | I dont use a local reference |
| 11:58.15 | Sole | just straight up self:Candybarmethod(blah) |
| 11:58.25 | nymbia | oh, right |
| 11:58.42 | Sole | you can do it however you want evl |
| 11:58.44 | Sole | try my way |
| 11:58.50 | Sole | then try nymbia's way |
| 11:58.55 | evl | ok :P |
| 11:59.24 | nymbia | i havent actually used candybars.. that was just a guess ;) |
| 11:59.29 | nymbia | lemme take a quick look. |
| 11:59.34 | evl | I'm still using oCD even if it's ancient :) |
| 11:59.39 | evl | But it's the most important addon I have |
| 11:59.47 | evl | since I don't have any visible bars/buttons |
| 11:59.55 | Sole | I was gonna hack in an arena prep thing |
| 11:59.58 | Sole | but then I didnt |
| 12:00.00 | Sole | so there you go |
| 12:00.02 | evl | I'm doing it now :P |
| 12:00.16 | Sole | well I actually coded it and all |
| 12:00.18 | Sole | but then it didnt owrk |
| 12:00.34 | evl | I was planning on watching for when the player gets the arena buff |
| 12:00.34 | Sole | then I said I'll come back to it, and ended up overriding it with an new version |
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| 12:00.47 | Sole | just check zone change |
| 12:00.49 | evl | then just delete all candybars and when a new bar is created just don't do anything if you still have the buff |
| 12:01.07 | evl | Well dtecting the buff Arena Preparation becomes zone independent |
| 12:01.23 | evl | detecting* |
| 12:01.42 | Sole | self:RegisterEvent("ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA", "CheckZone") if AceLibrary("Tourist-2.0"):IsArena(GetRealZoneText()) |
| 12:01.50 | evl | oh, neat |
| 12:02.03 | Sole | you'll have to use Tourist but oh well |
| 12:02.11 | Sole | blizz has some API function to check if a zone is an arena |
| 12:02.15 | Sole | but it didnt work for me |
| 12:02.20 | Sole | so I just use tourist |
| 12:02.36 | Sole | then as a secondary precaution you can scan the buffs for it |
| 12:03.16 | Sole | because I figure scanning buffs every time the player's buff list changes will be extra overhead when its not even necessary |
| 12:03.51 | Sole | anyway, off to sleep |
| 12:03.53 | Sole | rawr |
| 12:03.54 | evl | gl |
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| 12:09.04 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35026 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: Removed a couple entries |
| 12:16.10 | Fisker- | can i emulate /print with a quick script command? |
| 12:17.02 | [Ammo] | ./script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Fisker sucks") |
| 12:17.24 | nymbia | ./script AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral('something') |
| 12:17.35 | Fisker- | yeah but i don't have acelibrary at all :P |
| 12:17.42 | Fisker- | else i would've just used /print |
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| 12:18.14 | nymbia | sucks to be you, then ;) |
| 12:18.18 | Fisker- | QQ |
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| 12:20.31 | Fisker- | shouldn't i be able to do /print itemlink? |
| 12:20.50 | nymbia | oh you jsut want the actual codes? |
| 12:20.55 | nymbia | lets see |
| 12:21.29 | ckknight | Fisker-: /print "[itemlink]" |
| 12:22.09 | nymbia | ./script ChatFrame1:AddMessage(('LinkItemHere'):gsub('\124', '\124\124')) |
| 12:22.21 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 12:22.25 | nymbia | ckknight: he doesnt have AceConsole loaded for some cracked out reason |
| 12:22.25 | Fisker- | doesn't work on 2.1 atleast |
| 12:22.35 | sylvanaar | ~/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(tostring("Eat me")) |
| 12:22.51 | Fisker- | yeah but i installed it anyways :P |
| 12:22.51 | ckknight | nymbia: wtf? |
| 12:23.02 | nymbia | ckknight: agreed. |
| 12:23.42 | Fisker- | was wondering how they made tailoring recipes and such |
| 12:23.58 | nymbia | Fisker-: same format as the old enchant links |
| 12:24.09 | Fisker- | yeah just found out |
| 12:24.24 | Fisker- | must find exploits |
| 12:24.55 | Fisker- | give one to craft links as well :P |
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| 12:25.08 | nymbia | Fisker-: you just wanna link tradeskill stuff? grab Manufac and ManufacSnoop |
| 12:25.34 | Fisker- | I wanna see if the new "recipe" linking somehow can be used for sploitz |
| 12:25.58 | nymbia | Fisker-: well then look at ManufacSnoop for the link formatting ;) |
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| 12:29.04 | nymbia | er, maybe not... must just be in Manufac |
| 12:29.16 | sylvanaar | what kind of sploitz, like inflated matz? |
| 12:29.18 | nymbia | i know i implemented that crap somewhere |
| 12:29.20 | nymbia | oh right |
| 12:29.26 | nymbia | Fisker-: PT3Browser |
| 12:31.34 | Fisker- | sylvanaar i was thinking about datamining :P |
| 12:31.48 | nymbia | well, all you'll pull with that is spell ids |
| 12:32.26 | nymbia | which get yanked out of every client version easily by the db sites... somehow. |
| 12:33.10 | Fisker- | Well i know atleast 1 that isn't :P |
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| 12:39.00 | Matrix110 | nymbia if i run the dataminer it just skips all even though ive set it to updateonly = "http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/Misery" |
| 12:39.18 | Matrix110 | could you tell me why? |
| 12:40.51 | Matrix110 | if i comment out the --updateonly as it was orginally it just updates EU Conviction somehow |
| 12:42.24 | nymbia | Matrix110: updateonly seems flaky lately, not sure why. for now (til i can figure out what broke), i'd say just set the resumedata at the top of data.lua to whatever you need it to be (stuff that's listed will be skipped) |
| 12:42.42 | Matrix110 | kk ill try thanks |
| 12:44.41 | knarf^_^ | is there a mod that allows you to rightclick itemlinks in chat to get the itemstring ? |
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| 12:45.09 | Mikk | could be coded pretty easily |
| 12:45.29 | Mikk | gimme a sec |
| 12:46.29 | Mikk | well actually |
| 12:46.39 | Mikk | hm nvm |
| 12:46.42 | Mikk | back to coding |
| 12:46.52 | knarf^_^ | :P |
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| 12:51.16 | Fisker- | Blizzard really should make some kind of Buffing UI |
| 12:51.22 | Fisker- | specially made with paladins in mind |
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| 12:51.37 | Mikk | Install FuBar_CorkFu |
| 12:51.44 | Mikk | one button buffing ftw |
| 12:51.53 | Mikk | Hrm |
| 12:51.55 | Fisker- | I have other stuff in mind |
| 12:52.03 | Mikk | Except it doesn't really work for rebuffing before buffs ahve run out |
| 12:52.19 | Fisker- | In built buffing assignments and possibillity to customize the buff for paladins |
| 12:52.35 | Mikk | Ah yeah |
| 12:52.38 | Fisker- | It's kind annoying having to buff 1 group of priests with wisdom and another with salvation |
| 12:52.53 | Mikk | And doing all the coordination work with 2-4 other pallies |
| 12:53.13 | Fisker- | well then they can atleast get both ;D |
| 12:53.42 | Mikk | The "per class" thing should take into account people being in bear form / cat form / shadowform / having tank gear on / ... |
| 12:53.48 | Mikk | That'd make it nummy :> |
| 12:54.25 | Fisker- | I think they might as well just go the whole way, and give us a per-target buffing |
| 12:54.36 | Fisker- | Obviously they'll have to put up symbol of kings costs |
| 12:54.38 | Fisker- | but still |
| 12:54.45 | Mikk | down you mean |
| 12:55.00 | Mikk | And increase the stack to like 500 |
| 12:55.03 | chutwig | yes, it would be wonderful if paladins could single-buff targets |
| 12:55.03 | Fisker- | Nah the idea was that 1 symbol buffed the whole raid ;D |
| 12:55.07 | chutwig | for example, with regular blessings |
| 12:55.13 | chutwig | what a wonderful world it would be |
| 12:55.28 | *** part/#wowace Joass (n=joss@r4bx107.net.upc.cz) |
| 12:55.35 | Fisker- | That lasts 5 minutes, has a limited range, and a mana cost because some silly druid specced balance |
| 12:55.38 | Fisker- | i don't think so tim |
| 12:55.49 | chutwig | yeah, well, bummer |
| 12:56.01 | Mikk | reblessing 15 targets mid-fight.. manually... with people spread out .. |
| 12:56.02 | Mikk | yay |
| 12:56.02 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r35027 10Decursive/localization.tw.lua: |
| 12:56.02 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 12:56.02 | CIA-23 | - Removed 2 unused locals. |
| 12:56.05 | Mikk | ain't happening |
| 12:56.26 | Fisker- | well here it's only around 5, but yeah it's not happening |
| 12:57.05 | chutwig | you people would've cried so much pre-1.9 |
| 12:57.09 | chutwig | when that was exactly how it worked |
| 12:58.29 | Fisker- | yeah where you could OOC a boss fight, you could also bind it all to 1 button, with the only requirement was being in range |
| 12:58.33 | Fisker- | also 40 people instead of 25 |
| 12:58.54 | Fisker- | It's not the same mechanics anymore, and i would've rather experienced the buffing problem pre-1.9 than now |
| 12:59.08 | chutwig | you say that but i very much doubt it |
| 12:59.19 | chutwig | panza was awful |
| 12:59.21 | Fisker- | Hey i would always whine |
| 12:59.40 | Kirkburn | Awful, why? |
| 12:59.57 | chutwig | it was the single most incomprehensible addon i have ever encountered |
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| 13:02.16 | Elkano | panza was what? |
| 13:02.54 | kenlyric | when was OOC changed, 1.9 or 1.10? |
| 13:03.09 | Fisker- | I actually believe it was before |
| 13:03.11 | kenlyric | i'm checking but I thought someone might know. |
| 13:03.17 | kenlyric | no, it happened while I was raiding. |
| 13:03.32 | Fisker- | well it's not hard to find out :P |
| 13:03.49 | Fisker- | 1.9.32 |
| 13:03.50 | Fisker- | 1.9.3 |
| 13:04.30 | wobin | Fisker-: Pallypower? |
| 13:04.34 | wobin | I've heard good things about it |
| 13:04.40 | Fisker- | i got it |
| 13:04.58 | Fisker- | It's not as much the management of the buffs rather than the fact that it's fucked up to buff for paladins |
| 13:05.12 | wobin | It's a little complex =) |
| 13:05.18 | Fisker- | party usually equals 5-7 symbols each 15 minutes |
| 13:05.33 | Fisker- | raids uses a lot of single buffs because of specs and so on |
| 13:05.55 | Mikk | indeed. druids alone usually mean 3 different buffs. |
| 13:06.09 | wobin | =\ |
| 13:06.26 | kenlyric | I think i did the math once, and it's more expensive to be a paladin than it is to be a priest if the priest only uses one buff. |
| 13:06.30 | wobin | I'm so used to raid pallies knowing precisely what to use, I've forgotten what to ask for in parties =P |
| 13:06.46 | wobin | As opposed to spirit and fort? |
| 13:06.54 | kenlyric | question though, can you indivvidually target 15 minute buffs? |
| 13:06.55 | Fisker- | well especically in parties kenlyric :P |
| 13:06.59 | Mikk | kenlyric: no |
| 13:07.08 | Fisker- | nope, they go to the whole class |
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| 13:07.11 | kenlyric | so you can't have three different buffs for druids. |
| 13:07.21 | kenlyric | well, from the same pally. |
| 13:07.33 | Fisker- | yup, you have to overwrite your own buff by casting a normal buff instead of the greater ones |
| 13:07.40 | Fisker- | the smaller only lasts 5 minutes though |
| 13:07.43 | wobin | >< |
| 13:07.46 | kenlyric | oh, and people do that? |
| 13:07.56 | Fisker- | right now yeah |
| 13:08.04 | Fisker- | But it's unlikely they get rebuffed in combat :P |
| 13:08.05 | kenlyric | and generally just suffer through having salvation for our shadow priests. |
| 13:08.44 | kenlyric | i sometimes wish I could donate my salvation to shadow priests... |
| 13:08.48 | koaschten | Fisker- pallypower + unit buff bars works best for that what i hear from our paladins. |
| 13:09.02 | Fisker- | read up :P |
| 13:09.14 | Fisker- | It's about having to singlebuff in the first place |
| 13:09.18 | kenlyric | wobin, when we get to using all three of our buffs, it gets hella expensive. |
| 13:09.26 | koaschten | naah i read a line and throw in what i think is best Fisker- ;) |
| 13:09.30 | kenlyric | though, unlike paladins, our usage goes down as the number of priests increases. |
| 13:10.04 | kenlyric | which is why nobody ever brings more than one priest or druid, no extra buffs are added :) |
| 13:10.42 | Mikk | heh.. gogo groups with 1 druid tank, 1 druid dpser, 1 druid healer |
| 13:10.50 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r35028 10Decursive/localization.tw.lua: |
| 13:10.50 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 13:10.50 | CIA-23 | - Fixed a "Syntax problem" (';' instead of ',') |
| 13:10.59 | kenlyric | well, I meant healing priests and druids. |
| 13:11.15 | kenlyric | you bring 1 holy priest, 1 resto druid, and 4 paladins :) |
| 13:11.45 | Mikk | hehe |
| 13:13.02 | kenlyric | heh, 1.9 came out the same week I started raiding. I remember because all the raid timers had changed and I could never figure out what the big deal was. |
| 13:13.18 | evl | any better way of iterating over GetSpellName(i, ...) than while true do? |
| 13:14.24 | Fisker- | is the eu forums insanely slow for anyone else btw? |
| 13:15.08 | Matrix110 | its always slow |
| 13:15.29 | Matrix110 | but no its usual here atleast |
| 13:15.57 | Mikk | knarf^_^: http://mikk.cjb.net/RightClickItemLinkInfo.zip |
| 13:16.11 | knarf^_^ | Mikk cool |
| 13:16.16 | Mikk | Copies shift+rightclicked itemlinks to the edit box |
| 13:16.17 | Mikk | In raw format |
| 13:16.56 | Matrix110 | GetItemInfo(ID) when you shift+rightlick i guess? |
| 13:17.13 | Mikk | Naw, I hook SetItemRef and just snarf the text it gets supplied |
| 13:17.28 | Mikk | So you see what actually got sent over chat |
| 13:17.31 | Matrix110 | ah |
| 13:18.00 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r35029 10Decursive/localization.tw.lua: |
| 13:18.00 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 13:18.00 | CIA-23 | - Again: Fixed a "Syntax problem" (';' instead of ',') |
| 13:19.24 | Matrix110 | finally it updates my Battlegroup |
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| 13:19.25 | knarf^_^ | Mikk 'tis sweet |
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| 13:20.18 | Mikk | also stupidly simple when you know what to hook =P |
| 13:20.30 | CIA-23 | 03solor * r35030 10CooldownCount/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:20.30 | CIA-23 | CooldownCount: |
| 13:20.30 | CIA-23 | - removed bug(hopefully where sometimes you got 50d timer after reloadui |
| 13:20.30 | CIA-23 | - using SharedMedia for font |
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| 13:22.49 | evl | CooldownCount does what? |
| 13:22.54 | evl | numbers on buttons? |
| 13:22.58 | Matrix110 | ye |
| 13:23.06 | Matrix110 | similiar to omnicc |
| 13:25.43 | Mikma | Mikk: wut is that .zip |
| 13:25.54 | Mikma | Mikk: is it some orgysexstuff? |
| 13:26.03 | Mikk | keylogger.. hushhh... |
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| 13:26.14 | Mikma | ooooh nice |
| 13:26.41 | Matrix110 | giev 14. May ffs-.- |
| 13:26.42 | Mikk | there's not enough orgysexstuff addons tbh |
| 13:27.06 | Mikma | then do some Mikk, i like your MSBT! |
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| 13:27.25 | Mikk | wonder if you could persuade the UI to play movies in small windows, not just fullscreen |
| 13:27.33 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 13:27.48 | purl | i guess mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 13:27.51 | Matrix110 | Mikk you can |
| 13:27.57 | Matrix110 | WoWTV |
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| 13:28.51 | Mikma | Mikk's Scrolling WoW TV |
| 13:29.33 | Matrix110 | WoWTV displays a blank frame where you can see Movies from most Videoplayers trough |
| 13:29.56 | kenlyric | porn AND wow? |
| 13:30.01 | Matrix110 | would work |
| 13:30.02 | wobin | hm |
| 13:30.03 | kenlyric | nirvana |
| 13:30.07 | Mikma | worldofwhorecraft |
| 13:30.10 | wobin | That's what the second monitor is for |
| 13:30.10 | SaisGwaith | WoW *is* porn, isn't it? |
| 13:30.13 | wobin | Wide screen porn |
| 13:30.30 | Mikk | I was more thinking of having an addon select mpgs and/or sound to play based on zone, etc ... |
| 13:30.53 | Mikk | Or maybe based on boss mob health |
| 13:31.00 | Matrix110 | oh ic thats a bit more tricky i think as you cant control the player from ingame:-( |
| 13:31.02 | Mikk | With predictable sounds as the boss dies =P |
| 13:31.18 | Mikk | Matrix110: But WoW in-game movies are mpgs |
| 13:31.20 | Mikk | And the music is mp3 |
| 13:31.21 | kenlyric | wow is one of the easiest games to run windowed, so I've seen less of a need for that kind of stuff. |
| 13:31.41 | Mikk | SIGH jump on the bandwagon already. We're talking orgysexstuff addons here :> |
| 13:31.41 | Matrix110 | windowed sucks! |
| 13:31.45 | SaisGwaith | tied music would be interesting ;) |
| 13:31.47 | wobin | Boss dies. "Oh shank me harder!!" |
| 13:31.50 | Mikk | Idd =) |
| 13:32.22 | kenlyric | if your machine can't handle windowed mode, I don't think it can handle running video at the same time ;) |
| 13:32.26 | Mikk | Crossing the 20% barrier "Oooooh make me die! Make me die, you big stud!" |
| 13:32.34 | SaisGwaith | lol |
| 13:32.56 | Mikma | Mikk: taunt "Give it to my honey I want it SO bad!" |
| 13:33.01 | Mikk | rofl |
| 13:33.05 | Fisker- | Mikk how can i print it as an item again? :o |
| 13:33.43 | yacoob | Anyone plays Lineage 2 here? |
| 13:33.46 | Mikk | Fisker-: You can't, not with that thing. It was just to extract itemlinks as they _actually_ look for development purposes |
| 13:33.58 | evl | hgaha |
| 13:34.02 | Mikk | If it was actually meant to be useful I would have put it on the svn |
| 13:34.05 | evl | fuck wow, Cat with Bow Golf is the best game ever |
| 13:34.10 | evl | http://ishi.blog2.fc2.com/blog-entry-211.html |
| 13:34.50 | Fisker- | ofc Mikk :P |
| 13:34.54 | Mikk | Fisker-: well, ok, you could conceivably /script SendChatMessage("<pasted link here>", ...) |
| 13:35.08 | Mikk | Hm, no, that prolly won't work either.. Nvm me. |
| 13:35.10 | Fisker- | nah that would require me to think |
| 13:35.24 | Fisker- | there was something about adding it to the chatframe as a link you could click |
| 13:35.25 | Mikk | Aye, and so would not asking that st00pid question in the first place =P |
| 13:35.27 | Fisker- | i just lost the script |
| 13:36.00 | Fisker- | haha |
| 13:36.16 | Fisker- | it doesn't like it when i shift+click a person :( |
| 13:36.20 | Fisker- | in the chat that is |
| 13:36.24 | Mikk | no? |
| 13:36.29 | Fisker- | nope |
| 13:36.34 | Mikk | looks fine to me |
| 13:36.44 | Mikk | oops |
| 13:36.44 | Mikk | no |
| 13:36.48 | Mikk | it locks up |
| 13:36.59 | Mikk | shift+leftclick that is |
| 13:37.13 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 13:37.14 | Mikk | funny tho i had that happen when shift+leftclicking something else last night |
| 13:37.25 | Mikk | (when this little addon didn't even exist) |
| 13:37.58 | Mikk | i think it was autobar's config i shift+leftclicked something in and everything locked up |
| 13:38.23 | Fisker- | There was an addon that had a good load of tooltip info on items |
| 13:38.28 | Fisker- | much more than mendeleev |
| 13:38.31 | Fisker- | if only i could remember it :( |
| 13:38.53 | vhaarr | ReagentInfo? |
| 13:39.03 | Mikk | RatingBuster? |
| 13:39.10 | Mikk | depends on what info you're after |
| 13:39.14 | Mikk | EqCompare? |
| 13:39.24 | Mikk | There's plenty of addons that add stuff to tooltips =P |
| 13:39.24 | vhaarr | ReagentInfo is more related to Mendeleev in terms of what it shows, though. |
| 13:39.43 | Fisker- | nah it was item related info |
| 13:39.55 | vhaarr | then don't compare it to mendeleev :P |
| 13:40.04 | Fisker- | QQ :( |
| 13:40.05 | Mikk | All the ones I listed are item related |
| 13:40.12 | Mikk | What KIND of info are we talking about? =) |
| 13:40.22 | Fisker- | can't remember :P |
| 13:40.23 | Mikk | Prices? Tradeskill usage? |
| 13:40.25 | Mikk | Sigh fisker >.< |
| 13:40.31 | Fisker- | none of all that |
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| 13:40.36 | Fisker- | you know more datamining related stuff |
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| 13:43.18 | Ordog | totalscore: -2 |
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| 13:44.21 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r35031 10Violation/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:44.21 | CIA-23 | Violation: add GUI with bars display, including resize handle etc. |
| 13:44.21 | CIA-23 | TODO: add sharedmedia texture selection, add rightclick dewdrop menu to GUI for module selection. |
| 13:44.23 | [Ammo] | ^---- pretty nifty! enjoy :) |
| 13:44.41 | [Ammo] | right now module selection is done via the fubar plugin still |
| 13:47.12 | beerke | Didn't violation tracked pet damage before or am i mixing thing sup ? |
| 13:47.22 | [Ammo] | it still does |
| 13:47.29 | [Ammo] | at least my boar on my level 10 test hunter was tracked |
| 13:47.37 | beerke | Well, it doesn't show up as a seperate part in menu |
| 13:47.41 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: ah, sweet, nice |
| 13:47.44 | Mikk | Hmm, wait, doesn't purl have karma scores for people? |
| 13:47.48 | beerke | which, iirc, it did before |
| 13:47.49 | [Ammo] | it looks and works pretty damn nice |
| 13:47.55 | [Ammo] | could probably use some tuning |
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| 13:48.37 | beerke | actually, just tested |
| 13:48.45 | beerke | it doesn't track pet damage at all |
| 13:48.56 | [Ammo] | want a screenshot with my pet damage? |
| 13:49.07 | beerke | No need |
| 13:49.11 | beerke | I just sended my pet in' |
| 13:49.14 | Chompers | noooo, my wow payment wasnt made |
| 13:49.17 | Chompers | i need my wow fix |
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| 13:49.24 | beerke | No damage from my pet, but it registered my own damage though |
| 13:49.46 | [Ammo] | try after a relaod |
| 13:50.30 | Chompers | keep em coming, i need something to fill the void |
| 13:50.45 | Bam__ | there.. a shaken Martini :P |
| 13:51.39 | Chompers | no no, i should be stirred :P |
| 13:51.43 | Chompers | *it |
| 13:51.55 | Silviu- | [Ammo] does it have an option to report it ? |
| 13:52.03 | Silviu- | Dmg i mean |
| 13:52.04 | [Ammo] | not yet |
| 13:52.06 | beerke | Well reload,seemed to work, still it doesn't proeprly enable, if your pet died and you logged on without a pet |
| 13:52.11 | Bam__ | hmm.... guess you aren't Bond then :P |
| 13:52.14 | Chompers | btw ammo, hurah for violation updates |
| 13:52.19 | [Ammo] | beerke: I think that's a parserlib problem then |
| 13:52.24 | [Ammo] | which I suspected already |
| 13:52.47 | Bam__ | ~007 |
| 13:53.15 | beerke | Doesn't pareserlib just *parse* what violation tels it to parse. As in violation checks if pet is alive or not and toggles pet dmg parsing ? |
| 13:53.34 | [Ammo] | apparantly violation didn't receive pet damage |
| 13:53.41 | [Ammo] | since it checks all damage for party and known units |
| 13:53.51 | [Ammo] | apparantly parserlib didn't know who your pet was |
| 13:54.33 | Ordog | hmm, using swstats atm, will i miss anything when switching to violation ? |
| 13:54.42 | Josh_Borke | pretty graph |
| 13:55.09 | Ordog | swstats has a graph? |
| 13:55.10 | Ordog | ^^ |
| 13:55.34 | beerke | The only thing i missed with swapping to violation is lack of syncs, with leads to incorrect data on anyone out opf your log range |
| 13:55.55 | Stephmw | Violation also has a very simple display of info |
| 13:55.56 | Mikk | That's pretty major >.< |
| 13:56.14 | Mikk | At least for me trying to evaluate who's being a nub and who's doing his job |
| 13:56.26 | beerke | i hate swstats, purely for it's timeline crap |
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| 13:57.49 | Hjalte | Has anyone else just had their Winamp suddenly stop working? - If not, can anyone recommend me a good freeware media player with some library functions? :) |
| 13:58.15 | Zicon | I'm partial to musikcube. |
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| 13:59.11 | vhaarr | Violation isn't done yet, guys, don't compare it to other addons yet, please. |
| 13:59.56 | Fisker- | 5 20-slot bags now :D |
| 14:00.09 | wobin | Fisker-: And it's still not enough =P |
| 14:00.23 | Mikk | Fisker- / knarf^_^ : Pardon, the hook in RightClickItemLinkInfo is totally broken. Any click other than shift+rightclick will cause the client to lock up. Fixed now =P |
| 14:00.35 | Fisker- | CT_Raidassist is way better than violation! |
| 14:00.47 | Kilroo | Vhaarr, I seem to recall someone making reference the other day to Violation keeping track of someone else's damage output. I thought it didn't do that? |
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| 14:01.18 | Mikk | purl, Fisker--- |
| 14:01.20 | knarf^_^ | Mikk link? :P |
| 14:01.26 | Mikk | same |
| 14:01.35 | Fisker- | ~emulate fisker- |
| 14:01.47 | vhaarr | Kilroo: it does |
| 14:01.48 | vhaarr | but it doesn't do a good job at it yet |
| 14:01.49 | Stephmw | Kilroo: latest svn seems to do that atm, although it always omits my shammy friend :) |
| 14:01.56 | Stephmw | Kilroo: or what vhaarr just said |
| 14:02.14 | Fisker- | btw what happened to the spiffy damagemeter like look it had? |
| 14:02.17 | Kilroo | ...Violation? Pah. I think EmoteFu does a better job. |
| 14:02.20 | Fisker- | stil being worked on? |
| 14:02.28 | vhaarr | Fisker-: ammo just checked it in |
| 14:02.30 | Kilroo | Ok, now that I've made that lousy joke. |
| 14:02.34 | Fisker- | ok :P |
| 14:03.05 | Fisker- | LF Mainbag upgrade quest :/ |
| 14:03.11 | Kilroo | Any members of the ZOMG Infinibar is awexome contingent here? |
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| 14:04.47 | Fisker- | I hope this vista download is legit :P |
| 14:04.58 | Fisker- | almost taken me a whole day to download now :( |
| 14:05.04 | Mikk | download? legit? |
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| 14:05.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 14:05.48 | Fisker- | :O |
| 14:05.59 | Fisker- | I got a valid license for ~all microsoft software |
| 14:06.05 | Kilroo | Rats. Maybe I should look for JJ later. |
| 14:06.13 | Fisker- | only thing i don't have is a place to get the software ;( |
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| 14:11.41 | Fisker- | omg |
| 14:12.40 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r35032 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: #1 bar is now 100% rest of the bars adjusted to value compared to #1 |
| 14:12.59 | wobin | Fisker-: Welcome to Bittorrent |
| 14:13.37 | wobin | have you got a winxp key that's valid I could use? |
| 14:14.04 | Fisker- | that would be piracy! |
| 14:14.11 | wobin | heaven forbid |
| 14:17.32 | knarf^_^ | ckknight whats the little icon on the castbar when your a mage ? |
| 14:19.18 | knarf^_^ | in pitbull that is :P |
| 14:19.49 | Elkano | the spell you caat? |
| 14:20.03 | knarf^_^ | well he is not casting any spells it looks like a blue pacman |
| 14:20.15 | [Ammo] | means he's out to eat you :) |
| 14:20.18 | knarf^_^ | with the mouth facing down |
| 14:20.19 | knarf^_^ | :P |
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| 14:25.09 | Kilroo | Infinibar is driving me crazy... |
| 14:25.15 | Kilroo | Good thing that's not much of a drive. |
| 14:26.09 | Mikma | use CogsBar |
| 14:27.06 | Kilroo | I'm using Bartender at the moment. Link? |
| 14:27.20 | Mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com -> search |
| 14:27.35 | Silviu- | [Ammo] when u reset bars still remain there ;p |
| 14:27.40 | Kilroo | Infinibar is irritating me because it's so close to exactly what I want except there appears to be no way to make it so I can drag things from button to button... |
| 14:28.44 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: oh hmm |
| 14:28.46 | [Ammo] | I'll fix that :p |
| 14:29.46 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r35033 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: reset bar display upon reset as well |
| 14:30.00 | Killmore | Violation need an option to sync now :P |
| 14:30.19 | [Ammo] | Killmore: you are luckily not bothered by any knowledge |
| 14:30.27 | [Ammo] | data is broadcasted already |
| 14:30.28 | harldephin | lol |
| 14:30.31 | [Ammo] | just not for non-violation users |
| 14:31.06 | Killmore | I mean, sync combatlog for non-violation users |
| 14:31.08 | Silviu- | [Ammo] any ideea how can i increase combatlog ? ;) |
| 14:31.26 | Mikk | Silviu-: Run swstats or dmgmeters also :> |
| 14:31.35 | Silviu- | Ne ... |
| 14:31.50 | Mikk | Nah, seriously, it's just a setting |
| 14:32.00 | [Ammo] | the setting nolonger works |
| 14:32.02 | Mikk | oh |
| 14:32.09 | [Ammo] | blizz nuked it |
| 14:32.12 | Mikk | asses |
| 14:32.13 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 14:32.21 | harldephin | butts |
| 14:32.21 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: you going to make it sync non users in the future? |
| 14:32.40 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: the plans are to make it do that yeah |
| 14:32.45 | [Ammo] | but requires some intelligent coding :) |
| 14:32.54 | [Ammo] | to keep broadcasted data down |
| 14:32.59 | Arrowmaster | k |
| 14:33.49 | [Ammo] | they won't |
| 14:34.05 | [Ammo] | but maybe we can make a damagemeters and swstats module |
| 14:34.10 | [Ammo] | that reads their datastreams |
| 14:34.13 | Mikk | Oho |
| 14:34.15 | [Ammo] | and maybe does something intelligent with it |
| 14:34.25 | Silviu- | good ideea ;) |
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| 14:34.40 | Silviu- | [Ammo] http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot051007173352sl8.jpg |
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| 14:35.35 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: which module set as display? |
| 14:35.41 | [Ammo] | a damagedone |
| 14:35.44 | Silviu- | Yep |
| 14:35.50 | Killmore | or a module that make swstats & damagemeters sync with Violation ? |
| 14:35.51 | Silviu- | And up, in fubar dps |
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| 14:36.55 | Keita | xml + ace, or build frames only from ace? |
| 14:37.18 | vhaarr | Killmore: If you'd read the todo, you'd have seen that such an idea was added months ago. |
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| 14:38.20 | Bam__ | Keita: you mean from Lua, I guess.... I'd say it's what suits your best.. you can mix it too if you prefer |
| 14:38.29 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r35034 10Violation/modules/ (6 files): Violation: prevent nil data from modules |
| 14:39.29 | Keita | BVam_: It seems easier to create a frame form XML... but probably it is that I just ahven't get the whole frame concept |
| 14:39.39 | Keita | Bam* |
| 14:39.54 | Bam__ | Keita: I think you will find it easier with Lua in the long run |
| 14:40.21 | Bam__ | Keita: those XML files tend to get large and unmaintainable |
| 14:40.41 | [Ammo] | it depends on what you can grasp easier |
| 14:40.56 | [Ammo] | I refrained from making GUI stuff until blizz added the lua frame API |
| 14:41.16 | Bam__ | XML wasn't made for human to read IMO :) |
| 14:41.16 | [Ammo] | which makes it a lot easier for me |
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| 14:41.16 | Keita | lol |
| 14:41.35 | Keita | so how is gona point me to the lua frame tutorial? |
| 14:41.42 | Keita | who* |
| 14:41.49 | [Ammo] | try wowwiki.com |
| 14:41.53 | harldephin | lol |
| 14:41.54 | [Ammo] | and try some code on svn |
| 14:42.10 | [Ammo] | there are plenty of ace addons that use the lua frame ai |
| 14:42.11 | Bam__ | hmm not sure there is one big tutorial covering it all |
| 14:42.12 | [Ammo] | api |
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| 14:42.34 | Bam__ | but there is a small one... hang on |
| 14:44.28 | Bam__ | cant quite find the one I'm thinking of... but look at some of the HOWTOs http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 14:44.44 | Bam__ | and the API of course |
| 14:44.59 | Keita | thx a lot, u really help people out! |
| 14:45.39 | Bam__ | np.. wowwiki is your source of knowledge.. that and other addons |
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| 14:46.51 | Keita | and what program do u guys use for writing code? |
| 14:47.16 | vhaarr | ed |
| 14:47.17 | [Ammo] | notepad++ on windows and joe on linux |
| 14:47.21 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 14:47.44 | vhaarr | cream.sf.net |
| 14:47.46 | haste | gvim on windows/linux |
| 14:47.47 | Stephmw | gvim on windows... gvim on linux ;) |
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| 14:48.15 | Bam__ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_editors |
| 14:48.17 | [Ammo] | I only use vi to edit the makefile for joe :p |
| 14:48.21 | Bam__ | wowwiki has it all :P |
| 14:48.59 | Keita | i've been ther, just wanted an opinion. I am used to develop in VB and like the color coding |
| 14:49.10 | CIA-23 | 03bam * r35035 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:49.10 | CIA-23 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 14:49.11 | CIA-23 | - Price updates |
| 14:49.15 | yacoob | VB? Urhyuck! |
| 14:49.21 | Keita | lol |
| 14:49.40 | [Ammo] | Keita: try notepad++ |
| 14:49.51 | [Ammo] | it has default hightlighting for lua and is an open source editor |
| 14:49.51 | vhaarr | "try x" |
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| 14:49.54 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 14:49.56 | vhaarr | "use y" |
| 14:50.00 | Keita | lol |
| 14:50.06 | [Ammo] | try is the correct word vhaarr |
| 14:50.12 | [Ammo] | I'm not saying use |
| 14:50.17 | [Ammo] | because I don't command him to use it :p |
| 14:50.23 | [Ammo] | just suggesting he tries it |
| 14:50.55 | vhaarr | I'm sure he'll figure it out |
| 14:51.28 | knarf^_^ | Can you make a macro that casts smite if it is a hostile target, and if it is a friendly target it targets the friendly targets target and casts smite? :> |
| 14:51.35 | [Ammo] | knarf^_^: don't think so |
| 14:51.43 | Bam__ | hmm |
| 14:52.39 | Bam__ | with the new syntax in 2.1 I think you can |
| 14:52.40 | [Ammo] | I think you can with the current |
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| 14:52.44 | [Ammo] | ./cast [target=target,harm] smite; /cast [target=targettarget,harm] smite |
| 14:52.56 | [Ammo] | if the first doesn't work it'll try the second |
| 14:53.11 | [Ammo] | maybe some 'exists' etc in there |
| 14:53.31 | Bam__ | yea think it would work |
| 14:53.34 | Keita | ne 1 uses wow ui designer? |
| 14:53.40 | Bam__ | you can leave out target=target though :P |
| 14:53.45 | [Ammo] | or even shorter: ./cast [target=target,harm]; [target=targettarget,harm] smite |
| 14:53.51 | [Ammo] | Bam__: yeah |
| 14:53.52 | [Ammo] | probably |
| 14:54.10 | [Ammo] | so ./cast [harm]; [target=targettarget,harm] smite |
| 14:54.17 | Bam__ | save precious chars ------ (I hate hate hate hate the 250 char limit) |
| 14:54.25 | Bam__ | or 255 or whatever |
| 14:54.27 | [Ammo] | that should work |
| 14:54.55 | [Ammo] | or you need 2 casts |
| 14:54.56 | [Ammo] | but dunno |
| 14:55.05 | [Ammo] | I thought ; in midcommand evaluated as o |
| 14:55.06 | [Ammo] | or |
| 14:55.15 | [Ammo] | when used with conditionals |
| 14:55.40 | Bam__ | yea sort of... it's just a sequence of "tries" |
| 14:55.46 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:55.55 | [Ammo] | try that last macro knarf |
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| 14:57.37 | [Ammo] | and let us know if it works |
| 14:58.03 | Bam__ | did he leave... lol |
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| 14:58.27 | [Ammo] | naah he's still here |
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| 15:00.45 | sylvanaar | methinks the babble toc for LoD is incorrect |
| 15:01.07 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: it works fine |
| 15:01.16 | [Ammo] | I run it LoD and no problems yet |
| 15:01.22 | [Ammo] | what's the potential problem? |
| 15:01.24 | sylvanaar | thats not what i am saying |
| 15:01.44 | sylvanaar | im refering to the metadata |
| 15:01.55 | sylvanaar | screw it, ill just patch around it |
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| 15:19.26 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WAU 1.7-final http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. | WAU is looking for development help, ping Kaelten if interested. | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization |
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| 15:19.38 | Bam__ | ~wb |
| 15:19.41 | purl | It's great to be back! |
| 15:19.42 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: not sure but DarkCandy comes to mind |
| 15:19.52 | Silviu- | I tryed it, same as Chrono |
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| 15:20.02 | [Ammo] | well |
| 15:20.07 | Silviu- | Bars, and none are separated |
| 15:20.07 | [Ammo] | I use chrono |
| 15:20.10 | Silviu- | Me too |
| 15:20.25 | [Ammo] | and it works fine for me |
| 15:20.25 | Silviu- | But i like Dotimer style verry much for multiple targets |
| 15:20.36 | [Ammo] | I've been pondering on adding that to chrono |
| 15:20.39 | Silviu- | And since am affli i dot all i see :) |
| 15:20.43 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: me too |
| 15:20.50 | [Ammo] | but I dot selectively |
| 15:20.55 | [Ammo] | when I'm done dotting the first target |
| 15:21.04 | [Ammo] | and move on to second target then move back to first |
| 15:21.07 | Silviu- | Then u must start from scratch :P |
| 15:21.09 | [Ammo] | the first dots are almost done |
| 15:21.11 | [Ammo] | so :: |
| 15:21.14 | [Ammo] | it's no biggy |
| 15:21.15 | knarf^_^ | ammo can't I have it to cast smite if my target is hostile? :) |
| 15:21.29 | [Ammo] | knarf^_^: it should |
| 15:21.35 | Silviu- | [18:21:38] <@F'[Ammo]> I've been pondering on adding that to chrono |
| 15:21.38 | Silviu- | What u mean ? |
| 15:21.43 | knarf^_^ | ammo hmm seems not to work |
| 15:21.44 | Silviu- | Multiple targets` separated ? |
| 15:21.45 | [Ammo] | headers between targets |
| 15:21.49 | Silviu- | Do it pls ! |
| 15:21.50 | Silviu- | :P |
| 15:21.55 | Silviu- | ./beg /beg |
| 15:21.58 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 15:22.40 | sbu | [Ammo]: but missing translations shouldn't crash pitbull/aura i guess? |
| 15:22.47 | [Ammo] | sbu: indeed |
| 15:23.15 | Silviu- | ;)))) |
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| 15:24.28 | Saroz | What's this latency bar? |
| 15:25.15 | sbu | hm - ckknight, idea whats causing ABF layout line 680 error (db index nil) |
| 15:25.19 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35036 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Support another for of dependancy error message. Support for babble's ambiguous toc. Special case FuBar and prevent enumeration of its dependant children for auto-enable. |
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| 15:27.58 | [Ammo] | Saroz: you have latency |
| 15:28.02 | [Ammo] | of say 200ms |
| 15:28.07 | [Ammo] | which means you have 0.2 seconds lag |
| 15:28.31 | Saroz | ahuh? |
| 15:28.31 | [Ammo] | when you are casting Quartz will show you a red part of your casting bar |
| 15:28.36 | [Ammo] | representing that lag |
| 15:28.40 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35037 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Removed debug print |
| 15:28.43 | [Ammo] | when your casting bar enters that red area |
| 15:28.47 | [Ammo] | you can click your spell button |
| 15:28.50 | [Ammo] | and it'll get sent |
| 15:29.03 | Silviu- | Saroz but u must use all your spells with mnacros like /stopcasting |
| 15:29.04 | [Ammo] | because of latency you will not have cooldown |
| 15:29.07 | Silviu- | ./cast Shadow Bolt |
| 15:29.16 | Silviu- | macros* |
| 15:29.30 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: that helps indeed |
| 15:29.47 | Silviu- | Pitty is for me is worse, i`m used to press Sb button a lot ^^ |
| 15:29.52 | Silviu- | And it interupts it all time ;p |
| 15:29.56 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:30.50 | Saroz | I dont get it |
| 15:30.54 | Saroz | how will it help when Im healing |
| 15:31.13 | Saroz | I spam the button anyway |
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| 15:31.53 | Silviu- | As healer it won`t help much |
| 15:32.00 | Silviu- | As mage or warlock yep it will |
| 15:32.19 | Stephmw | why? I spam my button too :) |
| 15:32.23 | Silviu- | And for persons that are not used press same button many times until spell is over :) |
| 15:32.52 | Silviu- | And u must get used to focus on your castbar more then other things |
| 15:32.53 | Silviu- | :P |
| 15:33.01 | Stephmw | 'Spell is not ready yet' audio warnings got turned off a looooong time ago :) |
| 15:33.10 | Silviu- | Yeah me too |
| 15:33.13 | Silviu- | + Errormonster |
| 15:33.14 | Silviu- | :))) |
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| 15:35.11 | CIA-23 | 03pettigrow * r35038 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
| 15:35.11 | CIA-23 | DewdropLib: |
| 15:35.11 | CIA-23 | - frFR Update |
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| 15:57.55 | Matrix110 | ~seen nymbia |
| 15:58.34 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 16m 10s ago, saying: 'Matrix110: updateonly seems flaky lately, not sure why. for now (til i can figure out what broke), i'd say just set the resumedata at the top of data.lua to whatever you need it to be (stuff that's listed will be skipped)'. |
| 15:58.35 | Matrix110 | purl is slow:-( |
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| 16:00.52 | Divax | Hello |
| 16:01.03 | Divax | Is antiarc here? |
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| 16:05.31 | Matrix110 | hes at work i think:P |
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| 16:06.57 | Amadeo | Hellgate: London has a weird subscription model |
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| 16:12.41 | aztecs|Awaa | Very |
| 16:14.33 | Amadeo | I'm not sure if the game will do well or not...the graphics look pretty crappy to me |
| 16:14.33 | Amadeo | hopefully the gameplay is amazing |
| 16:14.33 | Ominous_ | tekkub: ping |
| 16:15.30 | Tekkub | what? |
| 16:15.30 | harl|WoW | something's wrong with Niagara |
| 16:15.33 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r35039 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Bugfix. |
| 16:15.35 | Ominous | tekkub: how hard would it be to convert SpecialEventsAura to use the new api? |
| 16:15.47 | Tekkub | damned if I know |
| 16:16.00 | Ominous | ah thought you would |
| 16:16.02 | Tekkub | don't even know the new API |
| 16:16.25 | vhaarr | Ominous: Not hard. |
| 16:16.37 | vhaarr | It's basically just adding 2 new fields. |
| 16:16.44 | Amadeo | haha, people on the forums are saying WoW's endgame is less accessable than EQ's...the funny thing is, it's probably true :P |
| 16:17.00 | Ominous | tekkub: can i modify it then? |
| 16:17.13 | Tekkub | don't break it |
| 16:17.24 | harl|WoW | when i click the Niagara icon, it opens but there's nothing in it |
| 16:17.36 | Matrix110 | works here |
| 16:17.40 | harl|WoW | and BugSack shows an error concerning PitBull |
| 16:17.49 | Ominous | tekkub: does it work with focus atm? |
| 16:17.54 | harl|WoW | so it may something between PitBull and Niagara |
| 16:17.57 | harl|WoW | +be |
| 16:17.59 | Tekkub | damned if I know |
| 16:18.10 | Tekkub | you people have been tinkering with it, not me |
| 16:18.15 | Matrix110 | i dont use PitBull so it could be:P |
| 16:21.12 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r35040 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Hide the emphasizeGrowup option when not enabled. |
| 16:22.36 | harl|WoW | Automaton's option to automatically sell all grey items needs an exceptions list |
| 16:22.51 | Matrix110 | maybe dont use it if you need exceptions? |
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| 16:24.41 | harl|WoW | i've reenabled AutoProfit already, but my guess was that an auto-selling function might not be completely sufficient without an exceptions list. |
| 16:25.02 | Amadeo | Am I the only one that thinks WAU should delete old version .txt and .xml files? I have like 50 of each in some directories |
| 16:25.03 | nevcairiel | the auto-selling func in Minimalist has an exception list |
| 16:25.17 | kebinusan | what gray items wouldnt you want to sell |
| 16:25.32 | koaschten | vhaarr -> http://wowace.pastey.net/25993 |
| 16:25.33 | nevcairiel | Amadeo: hitting the Reinstall button once in a while fixes that |
| 16:25.46 | Amadeo | nevcairiel: Extra server stress! |
| 16:26.47 | Amadeo | but I guess that's the only option |
| 16:26.59 | vhaarr | koaschten: bah |
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| 16:27.35 | Matrix110 | Amadeo if you arent modifing your Addons just check DelelteBeforeExtracting |
| 16:28.00 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r35041 10XRS/XRS.lua: XRS: Bugfix. |
| 16:28.20 | Amadeo | Matrix110: Thanks, I'll try that |
| 16:29.25 | harl|WoW | kebinusan: for an instance, there's my Gouging Pick. and i had two or three other items as well. grey stuff i'd explicitely wanted to sell at the auction house |
| 16:29.50 | Arrowmaster | what greys would you sell at the AH? |
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| 16:30.35 | Matrix110 | none? |
| 16:30.48 | koaschten | vhaarr, moonsorrow said its your fault ;) |
| 16:30.48 | Matrix110 | the Darkmoon Faire Grey did but they are white now |
| 16:30.55 | Leialyn | @ckknight: When you have 3D Portraits active with fallback to 2D when unit is out of range, then it draws the last 3d model it had over the 2d portrait, same with class picture. Could you hide the 3d Model if fallback to 2d/class is enabled? |
| 16:30.57 | moonsorrow | it's always his fault! |
| 16:31.07 | Leialyn | I meant PitBull btw :p |
| 16:31.22 | harl|WoW | stuff people can buy when there're no better items available. like shoulders and helms. and there're other occasional categories which lack items in certain leve ranges |
| 16:31.25 | harl|WoW | leve=level |
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| 16:32.09 | harl|WoW | especially levels lower than 20 |
| 16:34.06 | vhaarr | koaschten: it was |
| 16:36.47 | koaschten | ;) |
| 16:36.50 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35042 10ACP/ (ACP.lua ACP.xml): ACP: UI Enhacements to be more detailed about status. Uses the color conventions and additional statuses from modmenutufu |
| 16:38.26 | Ominous | hmm please can someone explain bucket events? |
| 16:38.44 | nevcairiel | AceEvent collects them, and fires them every x seconds at your mod |
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| 16:39.17 | Ominous | ohh nice :) |
| 16:39.20 | sylvanaar | whoa holy shit |
| 16:39.22 | nevcairiel | like you only want to update mana every 1s, you register a UNIT_MANA bucket event for 1s collecting ,and you get it every second from aceevent .. rather then everytime it fires |
| 16:39.49 | nevcairiel | see wiki for details :P |
| 16:40.15 | Ominous | how nice/nasty is this to be run in an onUpdate script for whenever at least a focus player or target butt/debuff updates and more depending on class? http://ace.pastey.net/26001 |
| 16:40.29 | sylvanaar | AddOn index must be in the range of 1 to 298 |
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| 16:41.03 | nevcairiel | that looks like alot for an OnUpdate |
| 16:41.53 | Ominous | on UnitAura update now |
| 16:42.01 | nevcairiel | is focus target whacky ? or do you get UNIT_AURA events for them? |
| 16:42.12 | nevcairiel | at least for target, i would recommend the events |
| 16:43.03 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: did you actually find an addon cap? |
| 16:43.15 | sbu | meh, every time i hear 'whacky' its like 'wacky wheels' coming to my mind :/ |
| 16:43.22 | harl|WoW | yea |
| 16:43.30 | harl|WoW | i agree |
| 16:44.15 | CIA-23 | 03caldar * r35043 10SharedMedia/ (18 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:44.15 | CIA-23 | SharedMedia |
| 16:44.15 | CIA-23 | - Added the remaining bar textures from Surfaces |
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| 16:46.12 | sylvanaar | no |
| 16:46.26 | sylvanaar | but i thought i had for a sec |
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| 16:48.56 | kebinusan | In Expo if you had profiler watching a namespace then disabled said mod w/o removing the namespaces profiler kicks up an error and you cant remove them w/o first re-enabling said mod |
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| 16:51.35 | harl|WoW | [2007/05/10 18:48:11-527-x1]: PitBull_Aura\Aura.lua:512: Babble-Spell-2.2: Translation "Boar Charge" does not exist. |
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| 16:56.44 | Matrix110 | where is nymbia i want to send him Tattle Data! |
| 16:57.42 | sbu | eww, is it possible to change grid style? (its bantobar atm i think) |
| 16:57.49 | Elkano | died from starvation a few hours ago |
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| 16:59.12 | phyber | Kaelten: I know KCI2 isn't finished yet, but will there eventually be an option to have it display the info in the main tooltip again? or at least turn off the ugly coins ;) |
| 16:59.54 | Kaelten | phyber, yes to both probably |
| 16:59.58 | Kaelten | definately to the second |
| 17:00.28 | Kaelten | I already have most of the backend coded for a text display, but the coins display is harder so I wrote it first |
| 17:00.42 | phyber | Kaelten: ahh, cool :) |
| 17:00.47 | Kaelten | Mikk: hehe |
| 17:00.49 | Kaelten | sorry |
| 17:00.51 | Mikk | =) |
| 17:00.56 | phyber | I just changed to KCI2 earlier, so I could finally get rid of Ace/AceGUI. |
| 17:01.04 | Kaelten | any feedback? |
| 17:01.09 | Kaelten | besides 'finish it' |
| 17:01.21 | phyber | nice so far, no errors. :) |
| 17:01.27 | Kaelten | :) |
| 17:01.36 | Kaelten | what do you think of the range tooltips? |
| 17:01.37 | phyber | perhaps include ItemPriceLib instead of the SellValues stuff it has now? |
| 17:01.40 | Kaelten | instead of the avg? |
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| 17:01.48 | Kaelten | ItemPriceLib? |
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| 17:01.53 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 17:01.57 | phyber | yeah, the range is good, I was confused a bit at first, but then I *singed* and got it :) |
| 17:02.03 | phyber | s/singed/dinged/ |
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| 17:02.28 | Kaelten | I'd have to see how it stores data, kci has an extremely efficient storage mech for it. |
| 17:02.59 | phyber | ItemPriceLib just has all of the item prices in a huge list. (if you didn't know). so there is no need to harvest them. |
| 17:03.08 | phyber | maybe you could just convert it to your nice storage method :) |
| 17:03.59 | phyber | I've noticed that sometimes in the tooltip that the coins overlap with the "Recent MinBid Range" text, etc. That could be ClearFont's fault though. playing with fontsizes, etc. |
| 17:04.24 | Tekkub | anyone got a nice SVN GUI on linux? |
| 17:04.25 | Kaelten | hrm not sure, I havn't seen any on mine but if the font size is changed it may have an effect |
| 17:04.39 | kebinusan | rapidsvn I think has a linux gui |
| 17:04.58 | Kaelten | hrm I don't like that general approach really, but I may look at it. |
| 17:05.26 | Kaelten | I like the fact that kci's is self correcting |
| 17:05.48 | Amadeo | KCI is going to take over the world! |
| 17:05.52 | Amadeo | I saw it in the Terminator |
| 17:06.17 | kebinusan | http://rapidsvn.tigris.org/ |
| 17:06.19 | Amadeo | Skynet :( |
| 17:06.32 | Amadeo | kebinusan: Never trust pirate bunnies |
| 17:06.55 | [dRaCo] | Pirate bunnies are going to take over the world! |
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| 17:07.02 | Amadeo | They use you for your booty, and that's it |
| 17:07.19 | Kaelten | if I can ever get it finished I think the new kci will far outstrip previous versions |
| 17:07.29 | Kaelten | sadly its not on the top of my priorites atm |
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| 17:09.12 | kebinusan | I dunno I think a pirate bunny knows how to get things done |
| 17:09.25 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r35044 10Capping/locals/ (3 files): |
| 17:09.25 | CIA-23 | Capping |
| 17:09.25 | CIA-23 | - syntax error fixes |
| 17:09.57 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35045 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Added in a missing bounds check |
| 17:11.07 | sylvanaar | i was playing with norgana's nlog tool - cool stuff |
| 17:11.33 | Ordog | i guess somebody knows php in here ? |
| 17:11.34 | Hjalte | Kaelten, the range tooltips are.. Big :) |
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| 17:11.41 | Ordog | can that somebody tell me why strtotime('2018-10-05 14:42:31') > mktime( 0 , 0 , 0 , 1 , 1 , 2010) returns false ? |
| 17:11.42 | Ordog | ^^ |
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| 17:12.15 | Kaelten | Hjalte: hehe, ya thats the side effect |
| 17:12.28 | Kaelten | I'll probably have an option to use the std avg tooltips as well |
| 17:14.10 | Hjalte | Kaelten, I'm right in saying that kci2 does not support using the average prices from scans when i put things on ah yet? |
| 17:14.32 | Kaelten | correct |
| 17:14.40 | Kaelten | I'm going to have to write that functionality into fence |
| 17:14.46 | Kaelten | which as of yet I havn't had time to do |
| 17:15.21 | Kaelten | fence will remember your last sold price though |
| 17:15.45 | TheKarn | Kaelten, i love you. |
| 17:15.45 | Kaelten | ya the range is +/- one standard deviation from the avg |
| 17:16.00 | Kaelten | hrm thats scarry |
| 17:16.07 | Kaelten | creepy english man love |
| 17:16.11 | TheKarn | lol |
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| 17:16.55 | Kaelten | what did I do this time? |
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| 17:17.04 | TheKarn | dunno |
| 17:17.09 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, loving sanitybags :) |
| 17:17.15 | TheKarn | are bankbags in the works? |
| 17:17.54 | abraxas^ | hey guys, my aguf doesn't hide the party frames when I'm in a raid despite "Hide frames when in raid" being checked :( |
| 17:17.58 | abraxas^ | what's-a da matter? |
| 17:18.05 | Antiarc|Work | Planned, but I don't have time to do 'em at the moment. |
| 17:22.31 | TheKarn | surely there wouldnt be that much in it? |
| 17:22.46 | TheKarn | i might even look into the code myself if i ever had the chance :P |
| 17:23.26 | Kaelten | there is some decent differences between the bank and the regular bags |
| 17:24.13 | TheKarn | afaik the way sanitybags works is directly from the itemcache so it shouldnt be that hard to just pull different data from it |
| 17:24.14 | TheKarn | afaik |
| 17:24.26 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, are you going to release an API for SanityItemCache |
| 17:24.27 | TheKarn | ? |
| 17:25.50 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: Like what? |
| 17:26.11 | abraxas^ | arf, does nobody have an idea about my aguf problem? I'm apparently too retarded to fix it myself :V |
| 17:27.28 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, for retreiving information? |
| 17:27.43 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, guess I should at some point :P |
| 17:27.48 | Antiarc|Work | Uh, the code is the doc? :D |
| 17:31.16 | Antiarc|Work | I guess right now I just have direct itemcache DB access in my stuff |
| 17:31.22 | Antiarc|Work | Guess I should make that an API. |
| 17:31.47 | TheKarn | would be good :) so other authors could use it |
| 17:31.51 | TheKarn | maybe move it to a Lib? |
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| 17:39.13 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc|Work: just don't require AceLibrary and i'll use it :-D |
| 17:39.32 | Josh_Borke | nothing against AceLibrary, but my mod isn't Ace |
| 17:39.52 | Antiarc|Work | Give me an equivalent solution to AceDB and I'll consider it :P |
| 17:40.19 | Josh_Borke | what sort of information are you storing? |
| 17:40.24 | Bam__ | could a non-Ace addon not use an Ace library really? |
| 17:40.28 | vhaarr | yes |
| 17:40.28 | Josh_Borke | hm |
| 17:40.48 | Josh_Borke | Bam__: no, they could |
| 17:40.48 | kenlyric | sigh. I think the mailbox just ate gold |
| 17:40.48 | Bam__ | ack..too many negations lol |
| 17:40.49 | Josh_Borke | but then i'd have to include the entire Ace stack, at which point why not make it an Ace addon? |
| 17:40.59 | vhaarr | Josh_Borke: depends on the library |
| 17:41.04 | vhaarr | some of them only depend on AceLibrary |
| 17:41.08 | kenlyric | remember when yhou all warned me about mass open mods? :) |
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| 17:41.39 | Elkano | libs dont work that good with AceDB since the db requires saved variables :/ |
| 17:42.45 | TheKarn | can a Lib not have a saved variable? |
| 17:42.57 | Josh_Borke | not really |
| 17:43.02 | Bam__ | would need a TOC to specify it in |
| 17:43.02 | Josh_Borke | how's that gonna work TheKarn? |
| 17:43.16 | TheKarn | yeah true |
| 17:43.20 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc|Work: why not do this? Have addons supply a table to the lib? |
| 17:43.21 | TheKarn | so really it wouldnt be a lib |
| 17:43.31 | Antiarc|Work | Josh_Borke: Because then you'd be replicating data. |
| 17:43.38 | sylvanaar | yeah, they'd need a host addon, or to be an addon |
| 17:43.43 | Antiarc|Work | Every addon would have a copy of the data cached, which is a pain |
| 17:43.49 | Antiarc|Work | Which is why the item cache is an addon, not a library. |
| 17:43.54 | Josh_Borke | hm |
| 17:43.56 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 17:43.58 | TheKarn | ah ok |
| 17:44.07 | TheKarn | still a nice simple api would be useful :) |
| 17:44.29 | vhaarr | OneStorage is an example of a library with a database. |
| 17:44.31 | vhaarr | iirc |
| 17:44.32 | Antiarc|Work | And the item cache stores a very stripped down data set which is expanded via lazy loading at runtime, as well as associated metadata (custom categorization/tagging) |
| 17:45.22 | kenlyric | lol, i'm just dumb |
| 17:45.22 | Antiarc|Work | I'm using metatables to strip down the dataset to the bare essentials on serialization, which results in a fairly small stored data set. |
| 17:45.22 | kenlyric | I sent 25g to my alt before I opened the mail. |
| 17:45.30 | knarf^_^ | is there a mod that adds your itemrack sets as subheaders in the equipmentbag? |
| 17:45.30 | kenlyric | btw, I love SanityInventory. |
| 17:45.39 | kenlyric | so nice not to have to open sanity every time I visit the bank. |
| 17:45.41 | TheKarn | SanityBags or Sanity2? |
| 17:46.33 | zoktar | anyone give a tip on holy pala raidframes ? =) |
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| 17:47.30 | Saint-N | xloot autoloots right? |
| 17:47.51 | sylvanaar | i dont think so |
| 17:47.57 | Bam__ | it does |
| 17:48.03 | Bam__ | or can be configured to |
| 17:48.10 | kebinusan | autoloot is built into the standard game ui |
| 17:48.19 | sylvanaar | oh, youknow |
| 17:48.25 | sylvanaar | i never play as master looter |
| 17:49.21 | Saint-N | yeah but i dont wanna have to hold down a key to autoloot |
| 17:49.24 | kebinusan | zoktar: Grid is nice for raid frames |
| 17:49.35 | Saint-N | bam whats the commandline to enable it? |
| 17:49.38 | kebinusan | saint-n, yeah thats configurable under your interface otions too |
| 17:49.41 | Bam__ | erm |
| 17:49.42 | Saint-N | i dont have it handy and someone is whining |
| 17:49.51 | Kilroo | I think I may try SanityBags to see whether I prefer it or Baggins. |
| 17:49.55 | zoktar | kebinusan ill try it, |
| 17:51.58 | Kilroo | Saint-N, if for some reason setting it under your interface options is more trouble, the command is /run SetAutoLootDefault() |
| 17:51.58 | kebinusan | Saint-N: check the box that says auto loot corpse and it automagically loots every time |
| 17:51.58 | Kilroo | 1 to autoloot, 0 not to. |
| 17:51.58 | Saint-N | ahh okay that changed then, used to require a keypress as well as mouse click |
| 17:51.58 | Bam__ | Saint-N: I may have remembered wrong... sorry... cant find the options :( |
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| 17:53.47 | Ominous | wtf how can a function that is the same as another function but with 1 line removed use 20* the amount of mem/call |
| 17:54.14 | Kilroo | Think the default key to override the default setting is shift. I just use Cutup and xLoot though. |
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| 17:55.07 | Kilroo | I need to move some stuff around, things are still appearing on top of each other when I don't want them to. |
| 17:55.46 | Kilroo | I need to move the window that tells you you have a GM ticket active so that I can actually report spammers...at the moment I can't play with a ticket up. |
| 17:56.09 | Antiarc|Work | Ominous: If that removed line was freeing the last reference to an item... :P |
| 17:57.37 | Ominous | no it was changing text of a candybatr |
| 17:57.40 | Ominous | bar* |
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| 18:01.18 | CIA-23 | 03elkano * r35046 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.lua: FuBar_FactionsFu: bugfixing |
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| 18:14.36 | kenlyric | apart from aldor/scryer, are there any other reps you can buy? |
| 18:14.55 | Stephmw | AD? |
| 18:15.02 | nevcairiel | sporeggar and cenarion exp |
| 18:15.07 | Antiarc|Work | Brood of Noz |
| 18:15.15 | kenlyric | you can buy sporeggar past honored? |
| 18:15.30 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.30 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 18:15.31 | kenlyric | ok, to amenda, "useful reps past revered" :) |
| 18:16.30 | kergoth | it'd be nice if localizers would stop fucking shit up |
| 18:17.56 | sylvanaar | spore rep for the wand pre 60 |
| 18:18.08 | sylvanaar | 70 |
| 18:18.32 | pastamancer | sporeggar tabard is where it's at |
| 18:18.45 | kenlyric | not really looking for reward, just somewhere to spend my money :) |
| 18:18.45 | sylvanaar | or the pot you can make |
| 18:18.58 | sylvanaar | its a -threat pot isnt it? |
| 18:19.14 | QQngsk | yes |
| 18:19.44 | stavmar | well more like a fade pot |
| 18:19.48 | sylvanaar | cant beat that |
| 18:19.54 | stavmar | has not been that effective as of yet |
| 18:19.55 | Gngsk | no, fade is temporary aggro reduction |
| 18:20.00 | Gngsk | the pot is more like feint |
| 18:20.08 | stavmar | well my aggro does not seem to drop after consumption |
| 18:20.08 | Gngsk | a permanent thread reduction |
| 18:20.30 | Thrae | The pot is a de-taunt, right? |
| 18:20.31 | kenlyric | are coilfang armaments boe? |
| 18:20.31 | Gngsk | kenlyric, yeah |
| 18:20.31 | stavmar | but maybe KTM is not recognizing to well |
| 18:20.41 | kergoth | hehe, the tradeskillmerge in quartz is awesome |
| 18:20.50 | Thrae | A de-taunt like Cower or Disengage |
| 18:21.12 | sylvanaar | taunt is permanent now |
| 18:21.14 | stavmar | kenlyric: they are not BoP you can buy them off the AH |
| 18:21.17 | Gngsk | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28548 -vs- http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27448 |
| 18:21.24 | sylvanaar | so what is a de-taunt |
| 18:21.44 | Thrae | sylvanaar: I thought taunt snaps the target to you and adds X amount of threat. |
| 18:21.56 | sylvanaar | now it makes your threat = |
| 18:22.02 | sylvanaar | permantly |
| 18:22.08 | Thrae | Your threat = what? |
| 18:22.12 | Gngsk | de-taunt? it's threat reduction. difference is the potion works in an area of effect, cower/feint work on a single target |
| 18:22.26 | sylvanaar | to the top of the threat list |
| 18:22.29 | stavmar | i am just not sure teh shrouding potion is that effective yet, compared to my soul shatter |
| 18:23.58 | Thrae | Gngsk: Well I was thinking of the old taunt system, yeah |
| 18:23.59 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Ah, gotcha. |
| 18:23.59 | sylvanaar | its for classes without aggro reduction |
| 18:23.59 | sylvanaar | druids |
| 18:23.59 | stavmar | i wish there was a sporregar tabard, I would wear it..:-( |
| 18:23.59 | sylvanaar | shamen (im guessing) |
| 18:23.59 | Gngsk | warriors |
| 18:24.03 | sylvanaar | yeah sure |
| 18:24.16 | sylvanaar | rogues in plate |
| 18:24.35 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Druids have Cower and passive threat modifiers, but Cower specifically takes a lot of Mana |
| 18:24.38 | Gngsk | on my server, we're almost constantly reminded that warriors have the highest dps potential in the game! if it weren't for threat that is ... |
| 18:25.06 | Thrae | If you're using it while Healing or Nuking, that is |
| 18:25.08 | kenlyric | that's just george. |
| 18:25.09 | sylvanaar | using cower is retarded unless you are in cat form anyhow |
| 18:25.22 | Thrae | For Feral Druids, Cat Form has a passive threat reduction equivilent to Rogues |
| 18:25.47 | Gngsk | kenlyric, masterchief ! |
| 18:25.49 | sylvanaar | since when |
| 18:25.52 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Yeah, might as well use Barkskin and take the hits |
| 18:25.55 | harl|WAT | hm. i guess FuBar_GarbageFu provides similar (and additional) functionality to AutoProfit, so i won't need either AutoProfit or Automaton/Minimalist for my auto-selling purposes. |
| 18:26.06 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Since 1.9 or 1.10, its in the patch notes somewhere |
| 18:26.10 | kenlyric | there are a bunch of cloaks/trinkets in TBC that have an active threat reduction. I imagine that potion is in the same class as those. |
| 18:26.30 | TheKarn | sanity and sanitybags dont seem to be updating their info |
| 18:26.42 | TheKarn | i had items traded to me and they werent there |
| 18:26.43 | Gngsk | insane! |
| 18:26.47 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Various Druids have confirmed it, and KTM was changed for it |
| 18:26.49 | sylvanaar | yeah, you can triple lb rej barkskin reg ht and just tank |
| 18:27.15 | Thrae | lb? |
| 18:27.15 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: I've had a couple of problems like that but haven't nailed them down |
| 18:27.23 | Megalon | live bloom |
| 18:27.28 | Megalon | life bloom |
| 18:27.35 | Thrae | Oh, for Resto Druids, yeah |
| 18:28.02 | sylvanaar | thats wierd because it was a major druid complaint about cat form |
| 18:28.14 | Gngsk | Tekkub, ping |
| 18:28.22 | Thrae | sylvanaar: It's weird they improved Cat Form? |
| 18:28.35 | Megalon | they forgot boomkin |
| 18:28.38 | kenlyric | 1.12 |
| 18:28.41 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Note we have no talents which reduce damage threat, only healing |
| 18:28.42 | harl|WAT | is SanityBags something like OneBag ? |
| 18:28.43 | Megalon | only specc ingame withoug -thrat talent |
| 18:28.45 | kenlyric | Cat Form: This form now has an innate threat reduction component. |
| 18:28.46 | Megalon | :< |
| 18:28.59 | sylvanaar | no its wierd that they did it in 1.9 and the druids were complaining about it still in 1.12 and 2.0 |
| 18:28.59 | kenlyric | it's when they modified the entire threat calculation for the game. |
| 18:29.10 | Thrae | Ah, not 1.9, 1.12 |
| 18:29.14 | Thrae | I knew it was before 2.0 |
| 18:29.24 | Thrae | kenlyric is correct |
| 18:29.32 | sylvanaar | ah kk |
| 18:30.26 | sylvanaar | thrae 2.1 |
| 18:30.27 | kergoth | is there an addon to just display a simple warmup like display of the memory usage of the loaded addons, rather than just the top 3 as in performancefu? |
| 18:31.14 | kenlyric | Megalon: holy. |
| 18:31.14 | sylvanaar | subtlety becomes dmg/heal |
| 18:31.20 | kenlyric | holy priest has no threat reduction |
| 18:31.25 | Silviu- | kergoth u can enable 10 of them ^^ |
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| 18:31.44 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Yeah, but 2.1 isn't out yet |
| 18:31.44 | Megalon | oh |
| 18:31.58 | sylvanaar | are there holy priests that dont have meditation? |
| 18:32.06 | Gngsk | kenlyric, silent resolve? |
| 18:32.13 | Thrae | that's a nice addition though, I'm 1/41/x |
| 18:32.16 | kenlyric | you mean silent resolve, and no, there isn't. |
| 18:32.20 | kenlyric | but it's not in the holy tree :) |
| 18:32.27 | Gngsk | eh |
| 18:32.27 | sylvanaar | no, i mean that dont put point in disc to get meditation |
| 18:32.32 | kenlyric | we have to spend bullshit points on crit to get down the holy tree :) |
| 18:32.33 | Gngsk | 10 points in disc, hardly difficult to get |
| 18:33.02 | Thrae | kenlyric: Most talent trees are built in the idea that you'll spend some talent points in other trees... |
| 18:33.11 | kenlyric | Thrae: except the resto trees |
| 18:33.26 | kenlyric | though pallies are in the same boat with BoK |
| 18:33.28 | sylvanaar | isnt it 14 disc standard |
| 18:33.37 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: uh, that's my point. |
| 18:33.44 | Thrae | kenlyric: Not really with Level 70 Druids, they're still better off with x/0/41 |
| 18:33.46 | harl|WAT | kergoth: that's something i've asked as well some days ago. i've not yet been able to find another add-on similar to Warmup. - how can i make PerformanceFu show 3 (or 10) top add-ons for memory usage ? i'm not able to find such an option. |
| 18:33.59 | Elkano | for a resto druid I didn't find any meaningful talents in other trees, as a feral you normaly go with 14 in resto :/ |
| 18:34.03 | Thrae | kenlyric: As Balance has some good benefits to healing |
| 18:34.04 | Josh_Borke | harl|WAT: there are other addons for that |
| 18:34.10 | kebinusan | is there a way in carto notes to stop the messages: Note ignored due to filter settings |
| 18:34.15 | Gngsk | don't see how any healing priest wouldn't want silent resolve, imp fort, inner focus and meditation |
| 18:34.22 | harl|WAT | Josh_Borke: so what're they called then ? |
| 18:34.38 | Elkano | Thrae, it has, but the talents are so deep in the tree there's no way choosing them when you choos ToL |
| 18:34.56 | undu | harl|WAT you can't do that in PerformanceFu untill 2.1 |
| 18:34.57 | kenlyric | Gngsk: right, but they're not in the holy tree. |
| 18:34.59 | sylvanaar | with resto you can get 5/0/56 or 0/0/61 |
| 18:35.02 | Megalon | kenlyric: but Silent Resolve is threat reduction for holy |
| 18:35.07 | stavmar | why does dungeon Set 3 have higher iLevel then Tier 4? |
| 18:35.11 | kenlyric | the discussion started about oomkin being the only talent tree without threat reduction. |
| 18:35.12 | Elkano | where would you put 5 into? |
| 18:35.20 | undu | Stavmar: Because it's blue. |
| 18:35.22 | Megalon | so boomkin is still the only one without |
| 18:35.28 | sylvanaar | imp wrath |
| 18:35.32 | Arrowmaster | stavmar: because itemlevel is also based on quality |
| 18:35.37 | kenlyric | ah, I just read up, he said talent build. |
| 18:35.59 | Megalon | well talent or overall, doesn't matter |
| 18:36.04 | Megalon | boomkin has nothing of those :( |
| 18:36.11 | kenlyric | I'm just bitter about divine spirit and trying to find an excuse to complain about disc :) |
| 18:36.13 | sylvanaar | that was the pre-tbc cookie cutter resto build 5/0/46 |
| 18:36.26 | Megalon | they could add it to as a shapeshift bonus |
| 18:36.29 | Thrae | Yeah, Boomkin needs at least a tiny bit of threat reduction. They have excellent AC and are intended to go melee, but still |
| 18:36.44 | Megalon | yea, but the threat |
| 18:36.45 | Josh_Borke | FuBar_Usage |
| 18:36.50 | Megalon | is the part with blocks your dps |
| 18:36.50 | Elkano | wow, that violation frame looks awesome :) |
| 18:36.52 | stavmar | Arrowmaster: so teh wuality of DS3 is better than Tier 4 |
| 18:36.55 | kenlyric | is the threat reduction their damage output? ;) |
| 18:36.58 | Megalon | at some point of equipment |
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| 18:37.00 | stavmar | quality |
| 18:37.04 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 18:37.09 | Josh_Borke | harl|WAT: Fubar_Usage |
| 18:37.13 | Megalon | a ring with +400 damage won't help you |
| 18:37.18 | Megalon | but one with -1% threat |
| 18:37.25 | Megalon | will raise your dps :< |
| 18:37.30 | Arrowmaster | stavmar: tier1 is itemlevel 66 for example, blues from ZG are itemlevel 70 |
| 18:37.32 | Megalon | you possible dps |
| 18:37.35 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:37.40 | sylvanaar | i never got enough +dmg to really have an issue on Sylvaan |
| 18:37.44 | Thrae | Hmm, I can't get talent calculators working in Firefox anymore |
| 18:37.57 | Gngsk | wowhead's works fine for me |
| 18:38.01 | Thrae | Oh wait, I'll use wowhead |
| 18:38.02 | Elkano | Thrae, eu or us? |
| 18:38.12 | kenlyric | higher itemlevel doesn't always translate to better, as the item points may be spent less efficiently. |
| 18:38.15 | Thrae | Elkano: www.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 18:38.29 | harl|WAT | Josh_Borke: thanks. i'll give it a try. does it work with 2.0 yet ? |
| 18:38.37 | Elkano | hee.. eu once used to bug for me while us was working |
| 18:38.39 | Josh_Borke | harl|WAT: 2.0? no |
| 18:39.13 | Arrowmaster | stavmar: for two items that have exactly the same stats but one is blue and one is purple, the blue one will be higher itemlevel |
| 18:39.13 | stavmar | in other words it is like comapring apples to oranges |
| 18:39.13 | harl|WAT | ok. then i guess i'll wait for 2.1 |
| 18:39.18 | stavmar | blue and purple cannot be directly compared per se |
| 18:39.20 | Megalon | Thrae: they work for me |
| 18:39.45 | undu | stavmar: Item budget calculations are based upon itemlevels modified by rarity. Let's say you have two items with itemlevel 100, one blue, one purple. |
| 18:39.54 | Arrowmaster | they can be, but you can not directly compare the item levels |
| 18:39.54 | undu | The blue one has a lower modifier |
| 18:40.08 | undu | which means it gets less of a budget than the purple one, which has a higher modifier. |
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| 18:40.28 | kenlyric | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Item_Values |
| 18:40.40 | sylvanaar | i thought they just had multiplier and you could equate the points |
| 18:40.48 | kenlyric | if you want to see how blizzard completely fucks up the value of spirit :) |
| 18:41.12 | Arrowmaster | the blue violet eye rings and the first purple ones are a good example of comparing blues to epics |
| 18:41.12 | undu | sylvanaar: Yeah, I guess that's what I meant. |
| 18:41.30 | undu | :) |
| 18:41.35 | sylvanaar | yeah, spirit is overvalued, too expensive vs mp5 |
| 18:41.51 | kenlyric | it should be in tthe 0.8 range |
| 18:41.54 | undu | Isn't spirit good with the spirit talents though? |
| 18:42.03 | undu | Or still not good enough? |
| 18:42.06 | Arrowmaster | the blue rings are itemlevel 115 i think, and the epic ones are itemlevel 95 but they have almost exactly the same stats |
| 18:42.23 | NightHawkTheSane | lol.. "Some stat combinations are not allowed, for example mana/5 sec and attack power." someone tell that to blizzards item designers please? >< |
| 18:42.27 | Arrowmaster | mp5 is one of the most expensive stats though |
| 18:42.29 | stavmar | should i ignore iLevel when chosing between items then, or do they mean anything really? |
| 18:42.32 | sylvanaar | its good, but not that good |
| 18:42.40 | kebinusan | hmm, Is there a way to block these messages saying a note was ignored due to filter settings w/o just turning off carto notes |
| 18:42.47 | undu | NightHawkTheSane: They might mean green items. Dunno. |
| 18:42.48 | kebinusan | I cant seem to find a silently drop option |
| 18:42.50 | NightHawkTheSane | stavmar: ilvl is a reference point, but not the be-all end-all of item quality. |
| 18:43.00 | kenlyric | with blizzard's current implementation, you have to stay out of 5sr for over 50% of the fight to get equivalent value. |
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| 18:43.09 | sylvanaar | i still have my 60 spirit hat |
| 18:43.11 | NightHawkTheSane | undu: probably, it just make me cry how much mail there is with str/agi/ap.. and.. mp/5. >< |
| 18:43.43 | Thrae | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=zzZxMuscbzZVEcteq00o might be an interesting build for a little variety in Resto builds |
| 18:43.49 | zoktar | is there like an estimaded heal for Grid ? |
| 18:43.53 | Thrae | ToL still kinda sucks |
| 18:44.26 | Thrae | And there's only SO much more healing efficiency a properly-geared Druid needs. |
| 18:44.30 | Arrowmaster | ToL will always suck in its current form |
| 18:44.45 | kenlyric | ToL makes me happy they never gave priests healing form. |
| 18:44.56 | kenlyric | considering how much they detest our end-tree talent already. |
| 18:45.08 | Arrowmaster | but it was way too overpowered in its original form when multiple ToL auras from more than one ToL in the party stacked |
| 18:45.10 | sylvanaar | ToL is good if you are playing your specialized role |
| 18:45.14 | kenlyric | it'd probably make us explode randomly./ |
| 18:45.35 | kenlyric | I imagine ToL is great when you're the only druid in a 25-man. |
| 18:45.40 | Gngsk | Arrowmaster, yeah walking totem and designated HoT spammer |
| 18:45.51 | kenlyric | you have your 4 pallies around you. |
| 18:45.58 | sylvanaar | given people think that the aura is worthless, stacking it wouldnt be bad |
| 18:46.13 | sylvanaar | thats right, walking totem |
| 18:46.20 | Arrowmaster | i dont really know if it stacks anymore |
| 18:46.27 | sylvanaar | it doesnt |
| 18:46.32 | kenlyric | but try having two trees in a karazhan run. |
| 18:46.33 | Thrae | sylvanaar: ToL would be good if they changed the aura to nearby party OR raid members |
| 18:46.35 | kenlyric | then you'll know pain. |
| 18:46.38 | Arrowmaster | but imho they should have left it in the original form but made it not stack |
| 18:46.52 | Thrae | Or if they went back to the original |
| 18:46.52 | sylvanaar | i have been one of the 2 |
| 18:47.18 | Arrowmaster | have like 3 trees in a group with the original along with 2 priests was just imba |
| 18:47.25 | chutwig | damn |
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| 18:47.33 | sylvanaar | i know i was in pain |
| 18:47.35 | chutwig | paladins are hard when you're a frost mage >:o |
| 18:47.36 | Thrae | Yeah, whenever they nerf something, they tend to nerf it HARD |
| 18:47.57 | Josh_Borke | what was the original ToL? |
| 18:48.00 | sylvanaar | the mangrove |
| 18:48.03 | kenlyric | I still say imp DS needs to increase damage/healing by MY spirit. |
| 18:48.06 | Thrae | Which is fine if they follow up buffing it again quickly. Balance in MMORPGs is all about nerfing then buffing a little until you get it right. |
| 18:48.10 | Arrowmaster | it increased the +healing of your party members |
| 18:48.18 | kenlyric | damn warlocks have like 80 spirit. |
| 18:48.34 | sylvanaar | lol, my spriest has that much |
| 18:48.58 | sylvanaar | but he has 10k hp and mana too |
| 18:49.00 | kenlyric | but imagine if imp DS was 10% of my spirit... 60 bonus damage instead of 10. |
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| 18:49.23 | Thrae | I guess where you put your ToL Druids depends on how many other auras you have laying around |
| 18:49.36 | Thrae | Don't Paladins have a similiar aura to ToL? |
| 18:49.37 | kenlyric | ToL druid goes with the tank |
| 18:49.40 | Arrowmaster | my warlock has 158 spirit |
| 18:49.48 | sylvanaar | lol, but no room in the tank group |
| 18:49.53 | Thrae | kenlyric: Well that's the thing, there may be better auras for your tank |
| 18:49.55 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: exactly :) |
| 18:49.59 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: for this patch yes but not after 2.1 |
| 18:49.59 | sylvanaar | usually with hunters and crap |
| 18:50.21 | Josh_Borke | who runs mmo-champion again? |
| 18:50.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 18:50.39 | ckknight | schwing! |
| 18:50.39 | Arrowmaster | hunters are on the the short end of the stick right now for party buffs |
| 18:50.42 | Josh_Borke | i want to know why kungen crits for 500000 :-P |
| 18:50.44 | ckknight | somebody sent me money! |
| 18:50.48 | ckknight | I can keep playing WoW |
| 18:50.48 | Boubouille | listen to the MP3 ! |
| 18:50.50 | sylvanaar | make some drums |
| 18:50.51 | Josh_Borke | and i can dl the MP3 because it say too many connections |
| 18:50.56 | Thrae | Feral Druids > Hunters for Melee-friendly auras |
| 18:50.56 | kenlyric | hunters have buffs? |
| 18:50.56 | Josh_Borke | s/can/can't/ |
| 18:51.04 | Boubouille | baaaaah. |
| 18:51.06 | Elkano | ckknight, sometimes I hate you :( |
| 18:51.11 | Boubouille | wait a min |
| 18:51.12 | Josh_Borke | wait, worked this time |
| 18:51.15 | ckknight | I wish I knew who was sending me this money, though |
| 18:51.19 | Josh_Borke | k, just gotta try again |
| 18:51.23 | NightHawkTheSane | its a stalker. |
| 18:51.23 | Elkano | mainly for me not getting any donations |
| 18:51.28 | ckknight | so I could properly thank them and implement a feature they request |
| 18:51.35 | Thrae | Tanks love tha crits, especially w/ ILOTP, which gains them even more threat |
| 18:51.40 | Arrowmaster | a warrior battleshouting gives more to a melee party than a MM hunter including imp hunters mark |
| 18:52.02 | Boubouille | Josh_Borke : http://www.wcradio.com/archive/blueplz/weheartkungen.mp3 |
| 18:52.05 | ckknight | Elkano: step 1: create multiple frameworks that act as the foundation for many other things |
| 18:52.07 | sylvanaar | i like commanding shout |
| 18:52.08 | stavmar | what is quartz? |
| 18:52.09 | Elkano | wasn't the threat from ILotP removed? |
| 18:52.11 | ckknight | Elkano: not sure about the other steps |
| 18:52.18 | Thrae | Elkano: It was? |
| 18:52.24 | Josh_Borke | Boubouille: i got it :-) thanks |
| 18:52.31 | Thrae | Elkano: If so, that would probably be an improvement |
| 18:52.35 | Elkano | I don't know but I think I read sth related to that |
| 18:52.38 | sylvanaar | my spriest can almost hit 12k hp with a lock and warr |
| 18:52.45 | Josh_Borke | sylvanaar: :-( |
| 18:52.51 | Thrae | Since the threat for anyone not a Tank was messed up, since it counted like a an Area Heal |
| 18:52.52 | Josh_Borke | sylvanaar: my spriest is only at 6.1k |
| 18:52.56 | sylvanaar | rofl |
| 18:53.14 | NeoTron | binder: so has anyone noticed how much freely information is shared about raid bosses these days? |
| 18:53.14 | Matrix110 | not with lock and warrior inside:P |
| 18:53.28 | sylvanaar | im a little gimped on +damage though |
| 18:53.41 | sylvanaar | ~500 |
| 18:53.55 | purl | i heard 500 is at #tuxboxproject |
| 18:53.55 | NeoTron | I remember it being hugely secretive and now movies are released on the 1st/2nd kills worldwide |
| 18:53.55 | Josh_Borke | i'm at +858 |
| 18:54.03 | kenlyric | lol |
| 18:54.05 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 18:54.08 | NightHawkTheSane | nice. |
| 18:54.33 | Thrae | Ooo, lots of Druid changes in 2.1 actually |
| 18:54.36 | sylvanaar | how do you get 858 |
| 18:54.36 | Thrae | Barkskin buff is awesome |
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| 18:55.00 | kenlyric | i'd suspect tailoring |
| 18:55.03 | sylvanaar | thats such a quantum leap from where i am at |
| 18:55.10 | NeoTron | I'm just waitign for them to announce the buffs of shadoweave, belt of ruination and spellstrike sets |
| 18:55.13 | NightHawkTheSane | more +dam gear, less +sta geaer? |
| 18:55.19 | ckknight | gah |
| 18:55.24 | Josh_Borke | yes, tailoring |
| 18:55.33 | sylvanaar | though i put retarded gems in to activate my even more retarded metagem |
| 18:55.46 | Arrowmaster | god i hope they buff shadoweave and belt of ruination |
| 18:55.49 | Josh_Borke | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Dagh |
| 18:55.50 | NeoTron | they will |
| 18:55.51 | phyber | w/g 41 |
| 18:55.53 | Josh_Borke | why would they buff those? |
| 18:55.54 | phyber | bah |
| 18:55.57 | NeoTron | they buffed Primal Mooncloth already |
| 18:55.59 | NeoTron | ilevel 120 |
| 18:56.04 | KarlThePagan | O.o |
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| 18:56.07 | NeoTron | Josh_Borke: because they are buffing all epics |
| 18:56.08 | Arrowmaster | theyll probably only add normal stats to them though |
| 18:56.11 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb lw buffs. >< |
| 18:56.12 | Arrowmaster | and leave the +dmg alone |
| 18:56.17 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 18:56.23 | Josh_Borke | they are already imba :-/ |
| 18:56.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah the elemental lw set still blows ass, although the bracers are nice |
| 18:56.32 | Matrix110 | Arrowmaster they wont |
| 18:56.33 | KarlThePagan | which is why they're buffing everything else lol |
| 18:56.36 | Thrae | Elkano: Yep, ILOTP will no longer generate threat in 2.1 |
| 18:56.38 | sylvanaar | maybe I should get the +damage meta gem and load up on damage gems |
| 18:56.42 | kenlyric | they'll probably divide them up. PM got buffed across the board. |
| 18:57.03 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: PM got abalanced upgrade |
| 18:57.03 | NeoTron | more stats all around |
| 18:57.10 | Elkano | :) |
| 18:57.11 | kenlyric | itemlevel upgrades tend to be pretty balanced. |
| 18:57.18 | NeoTron | robe: +4 int, +4 spi, +12 heal, +1 mp5 |
| 18:57.23 | KarlThePagan | I don't like the idea that I need to be a specialized tailor to keep up on the dps meters |
| 18:57.24 | ckknight | gah, brb |
| 18:57.26 | Thrae | 2.1 contains a ton of adjustments. It's a pretty big patch. |
| 18:57.29 | KarlThePagan | there should be equivalent items in heroics imo |
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| 18:57.36 | Matrix110 | there is |
| 18:57.42 | Matrix110 | or raid instances |
| 18:57.43 | Arrowmaster | god i fucking need to get the spellstrike patterns |
| 18:57.45 | NeoTron | Josh_Borke: they re good because you sacrifice stuff by getting them |
| 18:57.51 | KarlThePagan | not frozen shadowweave |
| 18:57.52 | NeoTron | like I'm nerfing my fire damage quite significantly |
| 18:57.56 | kenlyric | like...s tamina. |
| 18:58.05 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35048 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - fix potential bug |
| 18:58.10 | Matrix110 | For Mages there is a alternative to tailoring gear where you need the spec for |
| 18:58.13 | Arrowmaster | im still fucking using 3/8 tier2 http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Tokrim |
| 18:58.13 | NeoTron | and spellstrike - yeah you lose a lot of stats so not useful really on all fights |
| 18:58.27 | NeoTron | and they are supposed to be better than karazhan gear |
| 18:58.31 | NeoTron | they always had higher ilevel |
| 18:58.51 | kenlyric | which makes them better than heroic gear too. |
| 18:58.55 | NeoTron | of course |
| 18:59.00 | kenlyric | what itemelevel bump did heroics get? |
| 18:59.00 | Thrae | Isn't Ice Block for Mages self-cast? |
| 18:59.03 | kenlyric | were they 95 before? |
| 18:59.07 | Arrowmaster | heroics were 95-100 |
| 18:59.09 | NeoTron | not sure but it was 95 to 100 |
| 18:59.09 | Matrix110 | it is Thrae |
| 18:59.17 | Arrowmaster | theyre 110 i think on ptr |
| 18:59.26 | Arrowmaster | or atleast some of them, some havent been updated yet |
| 18:59.33 | Thrae | Why did Ice Block need the "Hypothermia" effect then instead of just adjusting its cooldown? Is there a Mage ability which resets the cooldown? |
| 18:59.39 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 18:59.39 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 18:59.40 | Matrix110 | Cold Snap |
| 18:59.59 | kenlyric | I think the ones from the level 70 heroics are higher. |
| 18:59.59 | Thrae | Ahh |
| 18:59.59 | Arrowmaster | cold snap = fucking annoying |
| 18:59.59 | NeoTron | crafted sets: specialized, drops: more generic |
| 19:00.00 | NeoTron | it seems |
| 19:00.02 | NeoTron | if they amde drops that had +shadow/frost dmg on them instead of just +spelldmg |
| 19:00.02 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric: its kinda random |
| 19:00.04 | NeoTron | they would be comparable |
| 19:00.10 | NeoTron | but for some reason..t hey don't |
| 19:00.23 | NeoTron | but also this gives crafting professions an actual value |
| 19:00.24 | Matrix110 | its a joke already that Druids get 3 Sets and Mages only 1 |
| 19:00.29 | Arrowmaster | slave pens and underbog both have items of 95 and 100 itemlevel right now i think |
| 19:00.40 | NeoTron | where in pre-bc the value in many professions were questionable at best |
| 19:00.44 | kenlyric | lol |
| 19:00.50 | kenlyric | screw mages and their set whining. |
| 19:00.53 | sylvanaar | druids need 3 sets more than mages need 3 sets thats retarded |
| 19:01.01 | KarlThePagan | NeoTron, however currently if I don't spec shadowcloth I'm probably going to lose my raiding spot to someone who will... that's my problem - and no amount of raiding or instancing will make up for it |
| 19:01.09 | Matrix110 | druids need 1 set and thats a healing set |
| 19:01.23 | KarlThePagan | blizz needs to balance valuable vs required |
| 19:01.25 | kenlyric | there are healing druids? |
| 19:01.30 | Matrix110 | no:-( |
| 19:01.31 | NeoTron | sylvanaar: as a warlock or mage I would want sets that go for my gear too |
| 19:01.32 | Matrix110 | not anymore |
| 19:01.42 | sylvanaar | mages need a set which helps them level their spriest faster |
| 19:01.45 | ckknight | woo, Slouken put in the ability to specify an MT/MA group. |
| 19:01.50 | kenlyric | NeoTron: but sorry, every single one of your builds requires +spell damage. |
| 19:01.52 | ckknight | for unit frames for 2.1 |
| 19:02.01 | NightHawkTheSane | neat |
| 19:02.01 | NeoTron | kenlyric: no. they require +shadow dmg or +fire dmg |
| 19:02.05 | NeoTron | very few require +spelldmg |
| 19:02.14 | Arrowmaster | one thing i dont understand at all is why they allow stuff like feral attack power to share item points with spelldamge/healing/weapondps because they cant be used together but afaik stuff with +frost and +shadow damage doesnt get to share the item points |
| 19:02.24 | kenlyric | meh, now you're just being obtuse. |
| 19:02.24 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: it does |
| 19:02.31 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: compare spellfire and shadoweave |
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| 19:02.36 | KarlThePagan | on froz shadoweave it does |
| 19:02.37 | NeoTron | spellfire has much less stats |
| 19:02.39 | kenlyric | My healing set does NOTHING for me when I'm doing damage. |
| 19:02.42 | Matrix110 | Arrowmaster because its impossible as a Warlock to have Frost spells or a Mage to hve shadowspells:P |
| 19:02.43 | kenlyric | Therefore, I need two sets. |
| 19:02.47 | Arrowmaster | they seemed perty equal to me last i looked |
| 19:02.53 | Matrix110 | a Druid can do starfire still no matter what spec he is |
| 19:02.55 | NeoTron | kenlyric: no but I'd like to use my raiding set |
| 19:03.01 | NeoTron | but since they are generic they are works |
| 19:03.02 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, I agree - primal mooncloth should be +healing / +holy imo :) |
| 19:03.10 | sylvanaar | rofl |
| 19:03.11 | NeoTron | t6 is arguable better due to spellhit stat |
| 19:03.15 | NeoTron | but not greatly so |
| 19:03.20 | kenlyric | Yeah, make +healing apply to holy spells, and I'll stick wiht one set :) |
| 19:03.33 | NeoTron | and the priest dps set is useless for shadow preists |
| 19:03.34 | KarlThePagan | or at least make items that are +healing / +holy |
| 19:03.36 | NeoTron | but I'm sure you knew that |
| 19:03.45 | kenlyric | it's not useless. |
| 19:03.46 | Matrix110 | but only with a 50-60% modifier if atall |
| 19:03.49 | kenlyric | it's more useful than the holy one. |
| 19:03.49 | KarlThePagan | the priest dps set is plain stupid |
| 19:03.58 | NeoTron | it is compared to non-set items and crafted items |
| 19:03.59 | KarlThePagan | they put tons of crit on the priest set for no good reason |
| 19:03.59 | sylvanaar | i havent even looked |
| 19:04.04 | KarlThePagan | I would rather have int and mp5 |
| 19:04.06 | NeoTron | if you think otherwise, you can't be a shadow priest |
| 19:04.10 | KarlThePagan | or int and spirit |
| 19:04.13 | jaete | ok, i seem to be having a problem with sct/sctd. it sometimes displays the damage crits i do in a different place from the other damage i do |
| 19:04.16 | kenlyric | the priest set has crit? |
| 19:04.18 | NeoTron | yes |
| 19:04.20 | NeoTron | quite a lot of it |
| 19:04.23 | kenlyric | lol. |
| 19:04.25 | NeoTron | it's a disc/holy dps set |
| 19:04.25 | KarlThePagan | dissapointing |
| 19:04.27 | NeoTron | not shadow |
| 19:04.32 | KarlThePagan | disc/holy dps is a joke |
| 19:04.39 | NeoTron | but who the f* dpses as discu/holy in raids? :P |
| 19:04.43 | kenlyric | s/joke/doesn't exist/ |
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| 19:04.45 | KarlThePagan | Drysc? |
| 19:04.48 | NeoTron | the DPS isn't bad |
| 19:04.54 | Arrowmaster | you dont do disc/holy dps in raids |
| 19:04.56 | KarlThePagan | yea if it's a 1 minute 30 second fight |
| 19:04.58 | kenlyric | the best disc/holy dps is WAND |
| 19:04.59 | Arrowmaster | you do it out of raids when soloing |
| 19:05.02 | NeoTron | it has sustaintability issues and of course zero raid benefit like VT/VE |
| 19:05.07 | KarlThePagan | yup |
| 19:05.12 | Matrix110 | shadow priest is just in the raid because of VT/VE nothing else |
| 19:05.23 | chutwig | shadow vuln and misery |
| 19:05.24 | Arrowmaster | shadow weaving =( |
| 19:05.25 | KarlThePagan | I used to be a super smite priest... but 2.0 just make it crap |
| 19:05.30 | NeoTron | Matrix110: and the fact that they have the ability to, and often do, top DPS meters |
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| 19:05.38 | KarlThePagan | it was nice when misery was in the disc tree... for all of 2 weeks |
| 19:05.42 | sylvanaar | i got alot of my damage from mb/swd crits, but by removing 1 swd from the rotation that really devalues crit |
| 19:05.44 | jaete | meh grayhoof isn't here, now is he... anyone who knows about sct buggery? who/where should i talk about it? :] |
| 19:05.50 | KarlThePagan | if it stayed there that would have been awesome |
| 19:06.01 | kenlyric | you don't get any value out of those crits though. |
| 19:06.06 | Matrix110 | NeeTron well thats a design mistake anyway:P |
| 19:06.22 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: the crits are a straigh 150% damage. The item points you spend to get crit are not worth sucha small increase in damage. |
| 19:06.22 | sylvanaar | thats retarded of course i do |
| 19:06.26 | Amadeo | jaete: I don't think Grayhoof comes here |
| 19:06.28 | Amadeo | maybe once in a blue moon |
| 19:06.31 | NeoTron | the relative value of +crit for a shadow priest is minimal compared to mp5 (until you reach the magic level of selfsustainability around 1000 spell dmg I think), and spell dmg |
| 19:06.33 | Matrix110 | a class with that INSANE utility shouldnt be able to be above other only dpsers |
| 19:06.34 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, not as much value as every other caster class - you're right |
| 19:06.35 | Gngsk | ~seen greyhoof |
| 19:07.35 | purl | Gngsk: i haven't seen 'greyhoof' |
| 19:07.35 | NeoTron | Matrix110: hardly |
| 19:07.35 | NeoTron | Matrix110: they have one strength and that is single target dps |
| 19:07.35 | jaete | amadeo, ok. where should i report a bug in sct/sctd then? ace forum? |
| 19:07.35 | kenlyric | KarlThePagan: NO VALUE. Crit is itemized in a way compared to damage that if you don't get any other kind of benefit from crit, they are completely worthless to you. |
| 19:07.36 | Matrix110 | most raid encounters are single target dps:P |
| 19:07.36 | sylvanaar | you think that +50% to your damage on a crit is worthless - no its not, it just isnt as good as some other classes |
| 19:07.36 | Matrix110 | and it doesnt change the fact what i said:P |
| 19:07.36 | kenlyric | if you don't get bonus damage or a special that procs. |
| 19:07.36 | KarlThePagan | sylvanaar, actually... it's almost none |
| 19:07.40 | NeoTron | sylvanaar: it's worthless since you have two spells with cooldowns that aan crit |
| 19:07.42 | KarlThePagan | because in a raid you only cast MB rarely |
| 19:07.56 | KarlThePagan | for pvp it's good |
| 19:07.56 | NeoTron | on trash a bit more worth but trash dps is less relevant |
| 19:07.58 | Amadeo | jaete: I'm sure that would work |
| 19:08.02 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 19:08.03 | Arrowmaster | umm lol wtf, im looking at my armory page and a few of the tooltips have "Eastern Kingdom" in them like the items are bound to that continent |
| 19:08.08 | NeoTron | but ... raid sets for pvp? lawl |
| 19:08.08 | sylvanaar | right, which i can currently cast with 1 mf in between them |
| 19:08.21 | Amadeo | ~seen Grayhoof |
| 19:09.28 | purl | Amadeo: i haven't seen 'grayhoof' |
| 19:09.28 | sylvanaar | mf mb swd repeat |
| 19:09.28 | NeoTron | sylvanaar: you'll run out of mana real fast |
| 19:09.28 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 19:09.28 | sylvanaar | but they run out of hp first |
| 19:09.28 | NeoTron | so it's not useful on boss encounters that are of any reasonble duration |
| 19:09.28 | kenlyric | it has nothing to do with how often you cast crittable spells. |
| 19:09.28 | KarlThePagan | sylvanaar, I'll give you 50g to do that on gruul |
| 19:09.28 | kenlyric | you are giving up damage to get that crit rating. The damage is MUCH more valueable in terms of item stats. |
| 19:09.28 | sbu | ckknight: dewdrop + db error in ABF? |
| 19:09.29 | sbu | (last commit) |
| 19:09.29 | NeoTron | and yes, lack of 50% extra dmg on crit is devaluating it a lot |
| 19:09.29 | sylvanaar | i dont care about gruul |
| 19:09.29 | KarlThePagan | it should just cover the repair bill for everyone who blames you for the wipe |
| 19:09.29 | kenlyric | the only use a shadow priest has for crits is in pvp. |
| 19:09.29 | kenlyric | and only if you wanna get lucky on big hits. |
| 19:09.34 | sylvanaar | no wrong |
| 19:09.38 | ckknight | sbu: try it out |
| 19:09.53 | sylvanaar | you are reductionists |
| 19:10.29 | sylvanaar | not as good ~= bad |
| 19:10.29 | NeoTron | crit less good than spell dmg |
| 19:10.29 | NeoTron | fact |
| 19:10.29 | kenlyric | I'm not saying that. |
| 19:10.32 | NeoTron | crit on a shadow priest set is BAD |
| 19:10.45 | kenlyric | crit may be a better stat than strenght. I'll admit that. |
| 19:10.49 | NeoTron | the itemization cost of crit is rather high and the spell dmg you'd get without it is much more benefitial |
| 19:11.35 | sylvanaar | its bad because you imagine they would have given you spell damage |
| 19:11.36 | Matrix110 | is it a Shadow Priest set? its spelldmg not shadow dmg or? |
| 19:11.36 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: are you saying my melee priest spec wont work? /cry |
| 19:11.36 | NeoTron | Matrix110: spelldmg of course |
| 19:11.36 | kenlyric | 10% crit gives you 5% extra spell damage. |
| 19:11.36 | NeoTron | because we can't have raid gear that si better than shadoweave |
| 19:11.36 | Matrix110 | then so why do you whine then its the same problem mages have with their sets:P |
| 19:11.39 | kenlyric | find me an itemization where those two numbers work together. |
| 19:11.49 | NeoTron | Matrix110: Because priests only RAID as DPS with shadow spec |
| 19:11.59 | sylvanaar | you could have gotten spell hit -that would have been even worse |
| 19:11.59 | NeoTron | Matrix110: so having crit on the RAID set is retarded |
| 19:12.01 | Matrix110 | that doesnt matter |
| 19:12.04 | NeoTron | no spell hit is better |
| 19:12.09 | Arrowmaster | spell hit is great |
| 19:12.14 | Matrix110 | Being Spec X is retarted aswell for raiding as a mage |
| 19:12.14 | NeoTron | a shadow priest still has 6% miss chance on bosses |
| 19:12.17 | sylvanaar | haha, ok right, im capped already |
| 19:12.32 | NeoTron | but yes best option is to just have spell dmg |
| 19:12.43 | NeoTron | look at the spell dmg cloaks there are |
| 19:12.54 | KarlThePagan | spell hit would be pretty nice instead of the crit |
| 19:12.59 | kenlyric | crits are useful when you get extra damage from them (look at all the other classes which get 100% damage bonus from crits, or even more) or when they get special that proc from crits, like flurry). |
| 19:13.08 | NeoTron | I see moroes as shadow priest, prince's as warlock and maulgar's as mage (or destro lock) |
| 19:13.10 | kebinusan | you can get to the 16% hit cap pretty easily |
| 19:13.20 | kenlyric | crit is itemized to take advantage of those. |
| 19:13.20 | NeoTron | one is spell dmg, one is spell hit/dmg one is crit/dmg |
| 19:13.20 | KarlThePagan | more that 6% would just let me put more talent points in something else |
| 19:13.20 | sylvanaar | i am at it in blues |
| 19:13.29 | kebinusan | technically I think you only need 15% hit since all mobs have a 1% chance to resist still but Im not sure |
| 19:13.38 | sylvanaar | 14 i thought |
| 19:13.40 | kenlyric | On top of *all of that*, shadow priests have 3/5 of the damage spells they can cast which have no chance of critting. |
| 19:13.59 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: funny, thats exactly whos gotten those cloaks in our raids |
| 19:13.59 | KarlThePagan | 16% +hit cap... 17% chance to miss on bosses |
| 19:14.00 | NeoTron | kebinusan: nah. 16%. base miss chance is 17% |
| 19:14.05 | kebinusan | ah ok, I couldnt remember |
| 19:14.13 | KarlThePagan | and 14% for hunters with 14% +hit (yes they never miss... hax) |
| 19:14.25 | KarlThePagan | or so I thought |
| 19:14.26 | NeoTron | hunters are weird |
| 19:14.27 | Arrowmaster | afaik hunters dont need that much |
| 19:14.28 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 19:14.31 | Tornhoof | hmm?, hunters have 9% |
| 19:14.32 | kenlyric | hunters are different? |
| 19:14.33 | NeoTron | hunters like never miss :) |
| 19:14.35 | KarlThePagan | ah ok 9% sry |
| 19:14.35 | NightHawkTheSane | neither does melee with enough +hit |
| 19:14.40 | Tornhoof | hunters is melee |
| 19:14.43 | Tornhoof | basically |
| 19:14.45 | Matrix110 | Mages got like 10% atleast to my statistics:P |
| 19:14.47 | Tornhoof | so 5+3.6 or something |
| 19:14.53 | kenlyric | why is the calc differrent for hunters? |
| 19:14.53 | koaschten | erhm |
| 19:14.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Tornhoof: well, i their numbers are a little different, but meh |
| 19:15.01 | KarlThePagan | but anyways... the priest t4-6 sets are lame |
| 19:15.03 | koaschten | DW melee needs 24%+ |
| 19:15.06 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: because blizzard is -insane- |
| 19:15.06 | koaschten | to not miss |
| 19:15.09 | Arrowmaster | calc is different for casters and melee |
| 19:15.26 | Tornhoof | ya, but hunters is normal melee basically |
| 19:15.26 | Arrowmaster | melee needs less for their special attacks |
| 19:15.29 | Matrix110 | and its different for the classes aswell |
| 19:15.35 | Tornhoof | ranged attack is 5% basic miss |
| 19:15.36 | Arrowmaster | but autoshot is a special attack |
| 19:15.38 | koaschten | dude, ask a rogue how much of his dmg is from specials ;) |
| 19:15.42 | Tornhoof | +3.6% for level difference |
| 19:16.01 | Megalon | enhancement shaman reach that +24% hit so easy :< |
| 19:16.04 | NeoTron | all I know is that I can kill an elite _7_levels_ above me on my hunter |
| 19:16.10 | NeoTron | I killed mor'ladim solo at level 28 |
| 19:16.15 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: ;) |
| 19:16.19 | Arrowmaster | you can do even higher than that |
| 19:16.20 | Tornhoof | if you dual wield you get a 19% malus |
| 19:16.21 | NeoTron | on my hunter |
| 19:16.25 | NeoTron | I'm sure you could |
| 19:16.27 | Tornhoof | so you should have 24%+ |
| 19:16.28 | NeoTron | it just takes time |
| 19:16.33 | Arrowmaster | ive heard of hunters killing shit like 20 levels higher than them |
| 19:16.34 | kenlyric | I used to wear 11% hit gear for the Instructor in Naxx |
| 19:16.37 | Matrix110 | Hunters can solo Azuregos! |
| 19:16.39 | Matrix110 | nerf them |
| 19:16.41 | NeoTron | but with melee (like the pet) he can't hit worth shit at that point |
| 19:16.42 | Tornhoof | dual wield attack, (not for hunter) |
| 19:16.44 | kenlyric | even though I knew I noly needed like 5. |
| 19:16.49 | NeoTron | Matrix110: they did man |
| 19:16.50 | kenlyric | it still didn't help. Fucking mind control. |
| 19:16.54 | NeoTron | they nerfed +healing on mend pet >:-) |
| 19:17.01 | Matrix110 | oh^^ |
| 19:17.12 | NeoTron | it is now a HoT but doesn't get benefit from healing gear |
| 19:17.13 | Arrowmaster | so kite him instead =) |
| 19:17.20 | NeoTron | so no more hunter with +1300 healing soloing azuregos. heh |
| 19:17.22 | FISKER_Q | now you're thinking with portals |
| 19:17.28 | Megalon | a hot that heals for quite.. nothing? |
| 19:17.34 | NeoTron | I dunno |
| 19:17.40 | NeoTron | does it scale with AP or something? |
| 19:17.42 | Arrowmaster | perty sure they buffed the healing |
| 19:17.48 | NeoTron | like the warlock spell scaling with spell dmg |
| 19:17.51 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont think it scales though |
| 19:17.55 | NeoTron | that's dumb |
| 19:17.59 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 19:18.00 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 19:18.01 | NeoTron | when will blizzard learn that no scaling = bad |
| 19:18.09 | Megalon | for a hunter |
| 19:18.13 | Megalon | every sting and so on |
| 19:18.17 | NeoTron | riht |
| 19:18.17 | Megalon | should scale with AP |
| 19:18.17 | Arrowmaster | oh health funnel? |
| 19:18.22 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 19:18.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, blizzard has a habit of making things scale far to well. so caution i guess is understandable :P |
| 19:18.26 | Megalon | like they did with Arcane Shot |
| 19:18.45 | Megalon | even with low modifiers, but let it just scale |
| 19:19.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, I dont see why mend pet doesnt just do some % of the pet's health |
| 19:19.09 | Arrowmaster | if you want to talk about bad scaling theres that whole 'pet scaling' thing they promissed us then nerfed into uselessness |
| 19:19.18 | Tornhoof | who needs hunter anyway? *fg* |
| 19:19.22 | Matrix110 | Hunters arent useless |
| 19:19.23 | sylvanaar | um cause your pets could tank instances |
| 19:19.26 | kenlyric | my pet is pretty awesome at 46. |
| 19:19.35 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: not what im talking about |
| 19:19.36 | Megalon | noone, but all our warlocks and mages got their t4 |
| 19:19.36 | Megalon | :X |
| 19:19.39 | kenlyric | I zoned in yesterday and had killed an ogre while my mods were loading. |
| 19:19.46 | Tornhoof | imba |
| 19:19.48 | NeoTron | I've had a demo-lock voidwalker tank one of the adds right after curator |
| 19:19.53 | NeoTron | on a night where we had just 1 tank |
| 19:20.14 | Arrowmaster | they completely nerfed the +spelldamage that pets get |
| 19:20.14 | sylvanaar | one of the melee only mobs? |
| 19:20.31 | NeoTron | the big robot dudes that put the arcane damage aura on ppl |
| 19:20.33 | Megalon | after curator? where do you need two tanks? |
| 19:20.33 | sylvanaar | or one of those robots |
| 19:20.43 | Megalon | any solid tank can tank both of them |
| 19:20.45 | NightHawkTheSane | there's a 2-pull of those arcane guardian things |
| 19:21.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Megalon: agreed, but its easier with two tanks |
| 19:21.24 | Megalon | i find it easier with one tank, only one to spam heal :> |
| 19:21.32 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, yea they could tank heroics i bet... because every pet has 12k armor |
| 19:21.48 | kenlyric | boar |
| 19:21.53 | NeoTron | that is possible |
| 19:21.56 | Matrix110 | i got 1k armor:-( |
| 19:21.57 | NeoTron | however he was tanked by a VW |
| 19:21.59 | KarlThePagan | and 460 defense right |
| 19:21.59 | kenlyric | it can charge in defensive stance :) |
| 19:22.01 | Matrix110 | nerf me |
| 19:22.01 | sylvanaar | wait what, i havent played my lock in ages, they gave the pets +spell damage? then what? |
| 19:22.14 | Arrowmaster | they nerfed it to hell |
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| 19:22.22 | NeoTron | but hunter pets have more armor etc than lock pets |
| 19:22.28 | NeoTron | and tank better (if you're BM specced) |
| 19:22.32 | KarlThePagan | still laughably little |
| 19:22.35 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlThePagan: well, they are giving hunter pets an avoidance skill next patch. ;) |
| 19:22.46 | Arrowmaster | on ptr with like 1270 +shadow damage my pet only gets +200 damage |
| 19:22.49 | NeoTron | they need to do that for lock pets too |
| 19:22.58 | Arrowmaster | hell my fucking imp has more armor than me |
| 19:23.02 | Arrowmaster | and always will |
| 19:23.03 | Megalon | NightHawkTheSane: "Seppuku"? :p |
| 19:23.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Megalon: hah. |
| 19:23.17 | sylvanaar | lock pets were horribly underscaled when i rerolled |
| 19:23.24 | NeoTron | I just face the fact that if something hits me I iether die or get lucky |
| 19:23.24 | Megalon | 100% percent avoidance when used! |
| 19:24.25 | sylvanaar | i was pissed after 1.8 without DR they put it back, and i had enough |
| 19:24.26 | Arrowmaster | they nerfed the machine gun imp into uselessness |
| 19:24.32 | NeoTron | yeah |
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| 19:24.46 | Arrowmaster | because of pvp |
| 19:24.49 | NeoTron | they changed a talent to reduce it to 1.5 vs 1.0 speed with the argument that 1.0 speed didn't work |
| 19:24.56 | NeoTron | which of course it actually DID |
| 19:25.01 | sylvanaar | i used to have my freaking doomguard with me constantly |
| 19:25.02 | NeoTron | and it WAS a bit OP for a while |
| 19:25.06 | Arrowmaster | actually for the longest time it didnt work |
| 19:25.09 | Arrowmaster | then they fixed it |
| 19:25.10 | NeoTron | my imp could out dps half thedps classes in the game |
| 19:25.11 | NeoTron | right |
| 19:25.15 | NeoTron | but they then broke it |
| 19:25.27 | hyperChipmunk | uh |
| 19:25.32 | Arrowmaster | once they added pet scaling |
| 19:25.34 | hyperChipmunk | sounds like it was already broken |
| 19:25.44 | Arrowmaster | no it worked at one time |
| 19:25.56 | Arrowmaster | then they nerfed pet spelldamage scaling |
| 19:25.58 | hyperChipmunk | i meant NeoTron's statement |
| 19:26.06 | hyperChipmunk | that's mad brokenness |
| 19:26.21 | Arrowmaster | and oddly now theyre buffing it again |
| 19:26.36 | Arrowmaster | hyperChipmunk: not really considering it can only dps for like 30 seconds max |
| 19:26.50 | Arrowmaster | unless you spec deep demo |
| 19:27.09 | sylvanaar | and get that lifetap to mana thing |
| 19:27.43 | Arrowmaster | but then youll be lifetaping all the time and making your healers have to heal you even more |
| 19:27.59 | Matrix110 | warlocks arent allowed to cry |
| 19:28.03 | Matrix110 | over and out:P |
| 19:28.20 | Arrowmaster | i find it weird theyre buffing unholy power to effect the imp now |
| 19:28.24 | kenlyric | Arrowmaster: as long as they're outputting more damage, healers don't mind healing warlocks. |
| 19:28.33 | kenlyric | it's an insanely efficient use of mana :) |
| 19:28.38 | sylvanaar | seriously |
| 19:29.01 | NightHawkTheSane | healers only mind healing melee, i mean, why bother, they'll just die eventually :P |
| 19:29.14 | Antiarc|Work | It's not like it's melee's fault >:( |
| 19:29.16 | Arrowmaster | i feel like a drag when when i have to be healed a lot |
| 19:29.20 | kenlyric | healers only mind healing melee when they shouldn't be taking damage. |
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| 19:29.22 | sylvanaar | when i healed on Sylvaan, the locks always had hots |
| 19:29.36 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: melee hasnt had the chance to "not take damage" since bc came out |
| 19:29.39 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: You mean pre-TBC? :P |
| 19:29.41 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 19:29.42 | Arrowmaster | because i get more benefit from health pots than mana pots but i cant ever use them |
| 19:29.48 | kenlyric | most trash doesn't aoe. |
| 19:30.05 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: But it cleaves/sweeping strikes/thunderclaps/farts acid |
| 19:30.09 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 19:30.13 | kenlyric | but yeah, I haven't really thought about not healing rogues in TBC :) |
| 19:30.30 | kenlyric | well, some rogues :) |
| 19:30.33 | NightHawkTheSane | the acid farting ones are the worst. |
| 19:30.51 | Antiarc|Work | Gruul's trash is friggin' horrific. |
| 19:30.57 | Antiarc|Work | They have that aggro wipe/charge, plus a cleave |
| 19:30.58 | Matrix110 | nah |
| 19:31.15 | Antiarc|Work | So they're running all over the damn place, spinning like tops, and cleaving everything in their way for 6+k |
| 19:31.32 | Arrowmaster | 6+k? |
| 19:31.32 | Matrix110 | Gruul trash is just: Hmmmmm how can we make easy trash insanely annoying so that you need to ress 3-4ppl every pull:P |
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| 19:31.32 | Antiarc|Work | It's impossible to avoid taking damage there. :/ |
| 19:31.36 | kenlyric | so, completely off topic but related, when attumen charges during his final phase, is that caused by any action or non-action, or is it random? |
| 19:31.36 | Arrowmaster | they oneshot every clothie in our raids |
| 19:31.45 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: Well, I'm in leather, |
| 19:31.52 | Thrae | Jewish Warrior == Dradel |
| 19:31.54 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: I think it's random |
| 19:31.56 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: I believe it's random |
| 19:32.04 | pastamancer | kenlyric: random, but there's a mininum range on it |
| 19:32.05 | kenlyric | and is the fact that it crits every time also random? |
| 19:32.15 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 19:32.20 | kenlyric | awesome. |
| 19:32.21 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: um, bad luck? i've never been on the receiving end. |
| 19:32.22 | gnorlish | attumen can randomly charge any raid member outside melee range but within 35 yards or so |
| 19:32.24 | kenlyric | I've never lived through that fight. |
| 19:32.34 | kenlyric | 10k crits, sometimes *seconds* before he dies :) |
| 19:32.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ~comfort kenlyric |
| 19:32.53 | purl | There, there, kenlyric. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 19:32.53 | pastamancer | get in melee range then :p |
| 19:33.06 | kenlyric | sometimes I've died to slow tanking, but the last few times it's been a charge. |
| 19:33.06 | shieldb | if you're in melee range with attumen then you get hit by his 360 shadow cleave instead ;) |
| 19:33.07 | NightHawkTheSane | The one thing I did enjoy about tanking is that I pretty much had to live though every fight. |
| 19:33.21 | gnorlish | have all ranged stand max casting range and he can't charge |
| 19:33.22 | shieldb | but the shadow cleave doesn't hit as hard as his charge |
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| 19:33.37 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: the nice thing about it is my Spirit of Redemption usually lasts until he's dead, so it's not like I'm really gone. |
| 19:33.40 | Cryect | <pastamancer> get in melee range then :p |
| 19:33.42 | Cryect | bad idea |
| 19:33.48 | Cryect | unless you like the debuff on you |
| 19:33.50 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: lol, nice |
| 19:33.52 | Cryect | for +50% miss :-p |
| 19:33.59 | Cryect | I mean its removable but applied often |
| 19:34.08 | pastamancer | well, he wanted to avoid the charge ;) |
| 19:34.18 | shieldb | you should only really bother removing it from the MT for threat |
| 19:34.28 | kenlyric | when the gave SoR a passive spirit bonus, I was willing to take it... but man, I've had plenty of useful places for improved death. |
| 19:34.38 | Cryect | The charge only ever kills priests in primal mooncloth Inotice since not really space to max range it :-p |
| 19:35.07 | kenlyric | I'm not in primal mooncloth, but it's not like stam is a major stat on our gear :) |
| 19:35.17 | kenlyric | I only now got over 7k self-buffed. |
| 19:35.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I was always amused that perfect raid actually put 'Imp Dying' on the health bar of priests in SoR form |
| 19:35.30 | Cryect | heh you would be so dead first boss of BT :-p |
| 19:35.33 | kenlyric | nice. |
| 19:35.47 | kenlyric | I wish it would show something besides full heatlh and mana :) |
| 19:35.59 | kenlyric | like when people think I'm up so i can rez... |
| 19:36.20 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: yeah, that freaks me out if i'm not actually looking at the priest, i see him die, then rez, and it take a second to click |
| 19:36.34 | kenlyric | it does help us stack the death count, though. |
| 19:36.40 | Cryect | yeah double death counts! |
| 19:37.12 | kenlyric | I've used imp death offensively before. |
| 19:37.24 | kenlyric | it's even better with a soulstone. |
| 19:37.37 | NightHawkTheSane | "What are you going to do, die at me!?" |
| 19:38.13 | kenlyric | worked on Kargath once, and on shade once. |
| 19:38.36 | kenlyric | 15 seconds of free healing is huge when you time it correctly, compared to just sitting there oom. |
| 19:38.52 | kenlyric | mostly the trouble is getting something to kill you fast enouggh. |
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| 19:45.07 | evulhotdog | O.O |
| 19:45.18 | Josh_Borke | .O. |
| 19:45.34 | evulhotdog | .visible 1 |
| 19:45.46 | Josh_Borke | .invisible 0 |
| 19:45.55 | evulhotdog | that means your visible -_- |
| 19:46.02 | Josh_Borke | i know |
| 19:46.04 | evulhotdog | XD |
| 19:46.10 | evulhotdog | ^_^ |
| 19:46.23 | Josh_Borke | making sure you're keeping up |
| 19:46.33 | evulhotdog | lol |
| 19:46.41 | evulhotdog | im trying to learn C# right now |
| 19:46.44 | evulhotdog | >.< |
| 19:47.26 | Josh_Borke | i'm sorry |
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| 19:48.06 | Antiarc|Work | C#'s a great language. |
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| 19:48.10 | Amadeo | ckknight's writing his own language |
| 19:48.13 | Amadeo | CK++ |
| 19:48.17 | ckknight | lol |
| 19:48.18 | Cryect | yeah heh been finally getting around to learning C# |
| 19:48.19 | Cryect | haha |
| 19:48.27 | ckknight | C#'s a nice language |
| 19:48.30 | ckknight | all in all |
| 19:48.52 | ckknight | I don't think that brace-based languages are the be-all end-all, though |
| 19:49.22 | Amadeo | what about..new open source Java!? |
| 19:49.28 | Cryect | Lisp is the end al! |
| 19:49.31 | Cryect | :-p |
| 19:49.44 | Amadeo | I knew a guy with a lisp once |
| 19:50.06 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I'd argue that no one language is the be-all end-all :) |
| 19:50.06 | Gngsk | I have a wisp |
| 19:50.17 | Antiarc|Work | Well, maybe ASM or something. |
| 19:50.31 | Cryect | yep some languages are just always better than other languages for certain things |
| 19:50.35 | Amadeo | Gngsk: WTB Greater Lightstone |
| 19:50.37 | Antiarc|Work | Tools in a toolbox! |
| 19:50.52 | Matrix110 | writing 0 and 1 > all! |
| 19:51.01 | Megalon | 2button keyboards for coding! |
| 19:51.04 | Cryect | What are you talking about writing |
| 19:51.07 | Cryect | its all about punching holes |
| 19:51.17 | ckknight | Amadeo: Java sucks |
| 19:51.25 | Cryect | thats for sure |
| 19:51.44 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 19:51.44 | sylvanaar | asm lol |
| 19:51.46 | Cryect | Though IBM has basically completed converted to it |
| 19:53.04 | sylvanaar | yeah, they did that hardcore in my industry Java and RetailPOS were married for the first half of the decade |
| 19:53.28 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: gief cool graphs for addon usage! |
| 19:54.28 | sylvanaar | 2 button keyboard, nah, a dial and a switch |
| 19:56.32 | sylvanaar | sun did too much damage to java for it to ever recover from |
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| 19:56.49 | sylvanaar | hahahaha |
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| 19:59.06 | Cryect | sylvanaar: You know I wish that was true but IBM seems to have salvaged it well enough that I don't think its going anywhere till IBM gives it up |
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| 19:59.17 | sylvanaar | right |
| 19:59.21 | Cryect | and all the damn colleges teach programming in Java |
| 19:59.56 | zac | Cyrez: it's a pretty good introduction to object oriented languages |
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| 20:00.17 | Cyrez | That's the second time somebody's done that, lol. |
| 20:00.26 | zac | it's so easy to do |
| 20:00.50 | zac | c<tab> yielded a name that looked almost like what i was directing at.. |
| 20:00.52 | Cryect | People often see Cryect and mispell it Cyrect so I can see |
| 20:00.54 | Cryect | haha |
| 20:01.03 | sbu | ckknight: mh - known bug that aura options are not shown in some cases? (works fine for me, doesnt for some guildie) |
| 20:01.07 | Matrix110 | its Crytek anyway:P |
| 20:01.20 | ckknight | sbu: *shrug* works for me |
| 20:01.29 | shieldb | sbu: I believe that depends on which layout you're using |
| 20:01.35 | Cryect | No its Cryect :-p I used the alias Cryect long before the company Crytek formed |
| 20:01.51 | sbu | shieldb: mh... |
| 20:02.13 | sbu | i think its both ABF |
| 20:02.14 | Josh_Borke | who is crytek? |
| 20:02.34 | Cryect | You know the Farcry and Crysis people? |
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| 20:02.50 | Cryect | make decent looking engines and shitty games |
| 20:02.53 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 20:03.06 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 20:03.24 | Matrix110 | more than decent looking :P |
| 20:03.38 | Amadeo | Unreal Engine 3 is going to be used for everything |
| 20:03.40 | Cryect | Well the Farcry engine was just decent looking imo, Crysis is impressive |
| 20:04.04 | Cryect | has anyone licensed the engine yet though |
| 20:04.09 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 20:04.12 | Cryect | UE3 is basically what everyone seems to use though |
| 20:04.13 | Matrix110 | but only 1 orso |
| 20:04.28 | Matrix110 | Unreal III offers alot more supports |
| 20:04.41 | Matrix110 | seminars and shit |
| 20:04.59 | Matrix110 | and its easy as shit to program a game with it compared to other engines |
| 20:05.01 | Cryect | Yeah they've been licensing engines for a lot longer so they know how to do that |
| 20:05.11 | Matrix110 | well but even ID fails |
| 20:05.18 | Matrix110 | and they are licensing Engines longer |
| 20:05.25 | Cryect | shrug not much longer |
| 20:05.37 | Matrix110 | well ok but about the same |
| 20:06.18 | Cryect | after Quake 2 barely anyone bothered licensing it except like Raven |
| 20:06.27 | Amadeo | Carmack's probably getting sick of making games |
| 20:06.48 | Amadeo | He wants to make space ships now :P |
| 20:06.48 | Cryect | Carmack just likes making engines |
| 20:06.48 | Matrix110 | well the Quake3 engine was very often used |
| 20:06.57 | Amadeo | All of the id software engines have the same limitations |
| 20:07.00 | Jens | <insert obligatory doom3 joke here> |
| 20:07.42 | Amadeo | I just don't have much faith that id will put out any more really good games |
| 20:08.02 | Cryect | that happens when you don't put out a good game for like 10 years |
| 20:08.14 | chutwig | but doom 3 was awesome, mannnnn |
| 20:08.22 | chutwig | or at least it had pretty lighting effects |
| 20:08.24 | Cryect | Doom 3 engine was awesome the game not so :-p |
| 20:08.30 | Jens | You actually saw Doom3? |
| 20:08.34 | Matrix110 | Doom III was a shooter not much more^^ |
| 20:08.36 | Jens | Because I didn't. |
| 20:08.42 | chutwig | it was okay, i guess |
| 20:08.48 | chutwig | for twenty bucks |
| 20:08.49 | Amadeo | I didn't like the Doom 3 engine |
| 20:08.52 | Tornhoof | doom3 looked awesome back when that alpha was leaked |
| 20:09.00 | Tornhoof | not when the actual game was released |
| 20:09.00 | Cryect | Doom 3 engine much better than the source engine |
| 20:09.13 | Tornhoof | and i didn't like that "too bumpy" look |
| 20:09.20 | Amadeo | horrible textures |
| 20:09.23 | Amadeo | small maps |
| 20:09.41 | Cryect | I really want to see engines with realtime global illumination |
| 20:09.43 | Aenslaed | Quake4 looked alot better than Doom3 |
| 20:09.50 | Aenslaed | alot less of that plastic look |
| 20:09.52 | hyperChipmunk | what's that got to do with an engine, Amadeo? |
| 20:09.56 | Cryect | yeah Quake 4 really shows what the Doom 3 engine was capable of |
| 20:10.05 | Matrix110 | QuakeIV got a budget game here like 1 or 2month after release |
| 20:10.14 | kenlyric | Source engine had a lot more going for it than doom engine. |
| 20:10.14 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: It's all it could really do without owning your system |
| 20:10.24 | Gngsk | anyone else notice carto mining notes not turning into circles when you get close? |
| 20:10.42 | hyperChipmunk | Gngsk: only happens when you have track minerals on |
| 20:10.44 | Aenslaed | kenlyric: only because of hammer. |
| 20:10.46 | kenlyric | Gngsk: only when I have track herbs turned on :) |
| 20:10.52 | Gngsk | hyperChipmunk, dur |
| 20:10.56 | Cryect | I dislike Hammer |
| 20:11.04 | Aenslaed | but even at that, the source engine is just HL1's engine with a ton of hacks on it |
| 20:11.07 | Gngsk | I disabled finderreminder like a noob |
| 20:11.11 | hyperChipmunk | is that a dur-you or a self-dur |
| 20:11.18 | Gngsk | self dur |
| 20:11.19 | Cryect | And HL1 engine was just Quake 1 engine wiht a ton of hacks |
| 20:11.22 | kenlyric | I just think the two engines were designed for different environments. |
| 20:11.30 | Gngsk | sorry, shouldn't have targeted you |
| 20:11.47 | Gngsk | I was gonna say thx then mid typing decided to dur myself |
| 20:11.49 | kenlyric | Doom3 engine would completely suck at rendering a city, source would completely suck at rendeering dungeons |
| 20:11.51 | hyperChipmunk | haha np, just making sure if there was still a problem |
| 20:11.54 | Cryect | well Doom 3 engine is good for stuff with lots of moving lights |
| 20:11.54 | kenlyric | (and has) |
| 20:12.43 | Cryect | Till global illumination can really become realtime engines aren't going to look much better for a while |
| 20:13.05 | kenlyric | I was one of those (apparently rare) people who thought Doom3 was really well done, if not more than a bit repetative. It definitely facilitated immersion, and I wish more games would be designed in a similar fashion. |
| 20:13.25 | Amadeo | I thought the single player game was decent |
| 20:13.46 | Aenslaed | oh, definitely. The single player was well done for what it was |
| 20:13.46 | kenlyric | doom3 had multiplayer? |
| 20:13.48 | Cryect | the problem was the multiplayer support sucked |
| 20:13.49 | kenlyric | that must have sucked. |
| 20:13.56 | Aenslaed | kenlyric: it did, but it was laggy as shit |
| 20:13.58 | Cryect | it had awful netcode |
| 20:14.00 | kenlyric | I'd imagine :) |
| 20:14.12 | Aenslaed | not so much the netcode but nobody's computer could handle it |
| 20:14.21 | kenlyric | quake 3 had no singleplayer, doom3 had no multiplayer. Seemed a good balance. |
| 20:14.23 | Cryect | Quake 4 is a lot better |
| 20:14.36 | Amadeo | Didn't like Quake 4's feel at all |
| 20:14.47 | kenlyric | I don't really judge games based on multiplayer. |
| 20:15.23 | Cryect | If its an id software game and not Keen you better include the multiplayer and modding capabilities :-p |
| 20:15.37 | Aenslaed | Cryect: almost every game lets you mod it these days |
| 20:15.39 | Cryect | since people don't buy their games really for single player |
| 20:15.48 | Cryect | Aenslaed: to a degree |
| 20:15.57 | Aenslaed | hence almost ;p |
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| 20:16.16 | Aenslaed | alot of FPS games will let you mod them. Its the only way to keep people playing, and buying |
| 20:16.19 | sylvanaar | is wowwikki gone? |
| 20:16.25 | Cryect | Aenslaed: Haven't seen many games that let you completely rewrite what the game is like you could in the Quake engines (and I assume in the doom engine didn't mod it muuch) |
| 20:16.45 | Cryect | Quake modders were so much more creative |
| 20:16.59 | kenlyric | Cryect: you might not buy your game for singleplayer, but there are some of us left. |
| 20:17.11 | Cryect | kenlyric: I buy games for single player but not id games :-p |
| 20:17.19 | Aenslaed | HL, UT all let you mod a fair bit. |
| 20:17.26 | kenlyric | Granted, I love good multiplayer, but sometimes I don't want to deal with people's shit. |
| 20:17.47 | shieldb | Cryect, I think part of that is the amount of work it takes to modify something newer vs. how much it took to mod quake1/2 |
| 20:17.54 | Amadeo | PC gaming is practically dead besides MMO...hopefully the next HL and TF2 will spark some interest again |
| 20:18.02 | Cryect | shieldb: agreed, the modding scene is dieing because of that |
| 20:18.12 | shieldb | expectations are way up these days as well |
| 20:18.20 | Aenslaed | Amadeo: what, no. RTS is alive and well |
| 20:18.26 | Amadeo | Aenslaed: Which RTS? |
| 20:18.28 | Cryect | Amadeo: its not really dieing, its just not grown as fast as the console market |
| 20:18.32 | Funkeh` | ~seen nymbia |
| 20:20.36 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 38m 12s ago, saying: 'Matrix110: updateonly seems flaky lately, not sure why. for now (til i can figure out what broke), i'd say just set the resumedata at the top of data.lua to whatever you need it to be (stuff that's listed will be skipped)'. |
| 20:20.36 | Cryect | the market capitilization has continued to gone up though |
| 20:20.37 | Aenslaed | dawn of war, company of heros, supreme commander, cnc3 |
| 20:20.37 | Aenslaed | all within the last year |
| 20:20.37 | Cryect | DoW is a few years old |
| 20:20.37 | Aenslaed | dark crusade |
| 20:20.37 | Amadeo | GameSpy lists only 300,000 people playing FPS games right now |
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| 20:20.37 | Aenslaed | the 2nd expansion which pretty much redid the entire game |
| 20:20.38 | shieldb | I love supreme commander but it doesn't love my system back :P |
| 20:20.38 | Amadeo | Aenslaed: I tried Dawn of War for a bit...cool game, but there was nobody playing it online, so I didn't buy it |
| 20:20.38 | Amadeo | and if there were any online games, they were in Europe |
| 20:20.38 | Aenslaed | yes, the original and first expansion were not multiplayer games |
| 20:20.38 | Aenslaed | 2nd expansion was a multiplayer update. Plays alot better. |
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| 20:20.38 | Matrix110 | Amadeo whats the problem with the games being in Europe ? :P |
| 20:20.39 | Aenslaed | I hamachi it with friends and it is really competitive. Either way, cnc3 is huge atm. |
| 20:20.39 | Amadeo | I don't really care for single player games, I did that enough on consoles when I was younger...I enjoy playing with or against other people now |
| 20:20.49 | Matrix110 | lol purl is slow Oo |
| 20:20.52 | Matrix110 | 2minutes for the reply |
| 20:20.54 | Amadeo | Matrix110: I'd like some US servers so I have a good connection and such :) |
| 20:21.21 | Matrix110 | purl why are you so slow? |
| 20:21.33 | purl | Matrix110: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 20:21.55 | Amadeo | Dawn of War just didn't seem to take off in the US initially, dunno if it is now or not |
| 20:22.13 | shieldb | Amadeo, I still enjoy single player games quite a bit, but multiplayer games are only really terribly fun for me these days when I'm playing with friends |
| 20:22.17 | Aenslaed | either way, RTS is alive and well |
| 20:22.36 | Aenslaed | action adventure has a couple up and comming. Hellgate London for one. |
| 20:23.00 | shieldb | Playing against/with random folks on the internet without the social dynamic just doesn't do it for me anymore :) |
| 20:23.03 | Amadeo | I plan to try that one out...doesn't look too good to me though |
| 20:23.23 | Amadeo | Roper should have stayed with Blizzard |
| 20:23.51 | Aenslaed | and did what? |
| 20:24.07 | Saroz | Coilfang Fathom-Witch.. WTF IS THAT SHIT |
| 20:24.10 | Amadeo | made more money, make better games |
| 20:24.13 | Matrix110 | i love Action RPGs as Gothic/Oblivion/Two Worlds alot |
| 20:24.24 | Matrix110 | like WoW offline^^ |
| 20:24.32 | Amadeo | Aenslaed: Some StarCraft announcement coming up in 10 days, sounds like a good project to be on |
| 20:24.38 | Aenslaed | Saroz: ssc trash mob |
| 20:24.41 | Amadeo | well, most likely StarCraft |
| 20:24.44 | Saroz | and it sux |
| 20:24.54 | Kemayo | It's kind of fun writing command-line tools. |
| 20:24.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: heh, i was just going to ask if it was a confirmed SC announcement or not :P |
| 20:25.01 | shieldb | Saroz, are you disliking the knockback into the water or the mind control? ;) |
| 20:25.16 | Saroz | all of it! |
| 20:25.28 | Cryect | its SC2 announcement is all |
| 20:25.33 | Aenslaed | Saroz: you talking about the pack before tidewalker? |
| 20:25.36 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: No, I think it's speculation...but the announcement being in Korea leads everyone to believe it's SC |
| 20:25.46 | Saroz | ye |
| 20:26.07 | Aenslaed | the murlocks have a very small aggro radius |
| 20:26.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: yeah, that'd be my guess too, i was just curious if that got confirmed at some point or was just speculation :) |
| 20:26.24 | Aenslaed | tank the two witches up on the platform with the tanks to the side walls |
| 20:26.30 | Amadeo | I'm just hoping Hellgate doesn't have that horrible quirky interface like Guild Wars does |
| 20:26.30 | Aenslaed | range only one, then the other |
| 20:26.34 | shieldb | the murlocs right before tidewalkers room despawn when you aggro him (assuming you're coming from the main chamber with hydross/lurker) |
| 20:26.35 | chutwig | Universe of Starcraft |
| 20:26.48 | shieldb | send a rogue in to aggro morogrim then vanish to despawn that murloc pack |
| 20:26.49 | Saroz | platform? |
| 20:26.58 | shieldb | then just fight them in the tunnel if you need to |
| 20:27.04 | Aenslaed | shieldb: really? wow. Should do that then |
| 20:27.05 | chutwig | that pull outside is horrible |
| 20:27.05 | Cryect | Its not going to be confirmed till the date but its not a MMO like CVG said (they have something of the like in the designs but its all hush hush) |
| 20:27.08 | Keita | i am using L:EnableDynamicLocales(true) L:SetLocale("esES") to test my es locale, but i get a locale esES not defined error. Can ne 1 tell me how to test a locale? |
| 20:27.09 | chutwig | shadow nova right into the water |
| 20:27.43 | Cryect | That pull is fun the first few pulls :-p |
| 20:27.55 | chutwig | i just hate all of SSC right now |
| 20:27.56 | shieldb | yeah there are four murloc packs total - one in the tunnel to morogrim's room (that's the one that despawns) and then three in his room that you need to clear |
| 20:28.03 | chutwig | and the 5-10 idiots in guild who don't take raiding seriously |
| 20:28.14 | chutwig | i mean, it's a game, and you're supposed to have fun, but don't fuck around and ruin it for everyone else |
| 20:28.41 | Cyrez | ^ |
| 20:28.50 | shieldb | there's two naga packs in the tunnel towards karathress on the other end, the first one despawns as well when you aggro morogrim (nobody usually sees that one), the other one is the one people usually clear so you aren't playing russian roulette with earthquakes |
| 20:28.51 | Aenslaed | chutwig: I dont mind ssc. It's got the best boss fight in the game |
| 20:28.58 | Aenslaed | lurker below = alot of fun |
| 20:29.13 | ckknight | Keita: when do you enable dynamic locales? |
| 20:29.35 | shieldb | just if you pull morogrim to despawn the murlocs make sure you take note of the time, because they respawn in two hours from when you despawned them if morogrim isn't dead by then |
| 20:29.50 | chutwig | Aenslaed: i wouldn't mind if my entire raiding staff were disciplined |
| 20:29.53 | chutwig | instead of just 20 of them |
| 20:30.10 | chutwig | for example, we have killed mag and he's not difficult, but some horse's ass inevitably fucks up a cube |
| 20:30.15 | chutwig | "lol sry" in raid chat |
| 20:30.23 | Keita | ij my core.lua justa fter local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("MyMod") |
| 20:30.26 | shieldb | chutwig, our last mag kill had four people alive at the end |
| 20:30.27 | chutwig | and i fume silently, they get replaced on cube duty, then somebody else blows it |
| 20:30.35 | shieldb | (we had 25 people alive at 2%) |
| 20:30.50 | chutwig | repeat for 4 hours until i want to beat them to death with my keyboard |
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| 20:31.21 | chutwig | there's no reason for them to be having this much trouble |
| 20:31.33 | chutwig | get to your positions, click one and override the urge to click again, wait until he emotes |
| 20:32.00 | Matrix110 | Make a macro as the raid leader with: /w X CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK!!!!! /w Y CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK!!!!! /w Z CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK!!!!! :P |
| 20:32.12 | chutwig | i do think they probably need to add a grace period of 5s or so to the mind exhaustion debuff to account for lag and stuff like that |
| 20:32.49 | Matrix110 | wait until he emotes? you click when he emotes so you get minimal dmg Oo |
| 20:33.02 | chutwig | when he emotes "not again!" |
| 20:33.06 | Matrix110 | ah |
| 20:33.11 | Aenslaed | chutwig: yeah, it can be tough when you can't trust most of the raid. |
| 20:33.24 | Aenslaed | chutwig: still, like c'thun, lurker is a fight thats alot of fun when executed properly |
| 20:33.32 | FISKER_Q | yay i almost downloaded Vista :( |
| 20:33.38 | Aenslaed | and the best part is how you can 'cascade' him ;p |
| 20:33.41 | chutwig | we worked on tidewalker a bit but the mages are having problems controlling the murloc packs |
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| 20:33.46 | Aenslaed | we killed lurker 3 times last week heh |
| 20:34.04 | chutwig | and i always pull hate every time because seed of corruption is a real party |
| 20:34.11 | shieldb | chutwig, how are you trying to group them up? |
| 20:34.23 | chutwig | shieldb: paladin heal threat + nova + aoe spam |
| 20:34.26 | Aenslaed | chutwig: soc does the majority of our murloc damage. |
| 20:34.28 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35050 10Prat/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Prat: TOC changes so the AutoLoD module is LoD too |
| 20:35.12 | shieldb | chutwig, are you guys coordinating your aoe? |
| 20:35.23 | Aenslaed | same. pally heal threat to get them together, nova, soc, warlocks run in a circle with mages aoeing |
| 20:35.35 | shieldb | with them running through a hunter frost trap + nova they don't get to move much before they die |
| 20:35.39 | Aenslaed | frost trap, PH too |
| 20:35.55 | Aenslaed | oh god its gonna suck when they fix those bubbles |
| 20:35.58 | shieldb | we just have the warlocks stand off to the side and SoC from there so they don't get mauled when they inevitably pull threat |
| 20:36.12 | shieldb | the victory bubbles? they were fixed last week for us |
| 20:36.23 | shieldb | they poke you for 6k and iceblock stun you for a couple seconds |
| 20:36.36 | Aenslaed | shieldb: eh? They fired a few times on us but it was isolated incidents |
| 20:36.45 | chutwig | people fucked the trash up yesterday and we just called the raid |
| 20:36.52 | chutwig | some people are going to get the chop |
| 20:36.54 | NeoTron | so except trash and bugs, is SSC fun? |
| 20:37.08 | NeoTron | or, I guess, frustrating :P |
| 20:37.09 | shieldb | we just move morogrim to the right of the north door and the bubbles pretty much despawn before they get to the raid |
| 20:37.22 | shieldb | melee occasionally has to move a bit for the bubbles at that point, but they don't bother anyone |
| 20:37.25 | chutwig | morogrim himself is so trivial as to be almost insulting |
| 20:37.28 | Aenslaed | NeoTron: hydross sucks. tidewalker sucks. fathomlord is fun. lurker below is fun. |
| 20:37.32 | Aenslaed | thats all I've killed so far. |
| 20:37.45 | NeoTron | resist fights I do find somewhat annoying.. |
| 20:37.50 | chutwig | i can't wait to be the leotheras tank |
| 20:37.51 | chutwig | OH BOY |
| 20:37.56 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 20:38.01 | NeoTron | I'm trying to desperately get out of that |
| 20:38.08 | Aenslaed | yeah, we aren't attempting leo till after the patch. |
| 20:38.13 | NeoTron | I don't WANT to respec demonology nor do I feel much like collecting FR gear |
| 20:38.20 | Aenslaed | trying to kill solarian >.< |
| 20:38.27 | chutwig | fegh |
| 20:38.42 | chutwig | at this point i would seriously be wholly satisfied if these clowns could just kill mag the first time |
| 20:38.42 | Aenslaed | respawn timers in that place is too fast :/ |
| 20:38.53 | chutwig | that's all i'm asking at the moment, nothing more |
| 20:39.05 | Aenslaed | void reaver is free T4 though |
| 20:39.07 | Aenslaed | t5 |
| 20:39.15 | Aenslaed | fight is absurdly easy. |
| 20:39.19 | shieldb | wtb warp-spring coil ;) |
| 20:39.23 | CIA-23 | 03gamefaq * r35051 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 20:39.24 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 20:39.24 | CIA-23 | - Babble-Spell deDE Update |
| 20:39.36 | chutwig | famous last words |
| 20:40.11 | Aenslaed | not really. We killed him on our 3rd try (first was a suicide run cause nobody wanted to listen. second was a dry run. third was a kill) |
| 20:40.50 | chutwig | if people don't want to be disciplined, there's really fuck-all you can do about it |
| 20:40.54 | Aenslaed | and we oneshot him on tuesday even with 10 new people in the raid. |
| 20:40.59 | chutwig | that's the situation i'm stuck in now |
| 20:41.23 | Aenslaed | meh. THere are means to improve discipline. |
| 20:41.24 | FISKER_Q | Boubouille |
| 20:41.50 | chutwig | just throw out the people who can't hack it |
| 20:41.55 | chutwig | but you still have to get new ones |
| 20:42.17 | Aenslaed | there a ways other than that |
| 20:42.21 | Aenslaed | are* |
| 20:43.41 | shieldb | Aenslaed, "The beatings will continue until morale improves!" |
| 20:43.42 | Aenslaed | one is to publically call out the slacker. We had two people who seriously weren't making the cut. We made it known and it was terrible to be them for the next couple weeks. Once their dps picked up, we let off. |
| 20:43.48 | Aenslaed | shieldb: pretty much! |
| 20:43.52 | chutwig | that's what i would do |
| 20:44.00 | chutwig | public excoriation works wonders |
| 20:44.19 | Aenslaed | cause simply put, if we boot them out of our guild, they have nowhere to go |
| 20:44.21 | chutwig | unfortunately i only really serve in an advisory capacity |
| 20:45.06 | chutwig | but i've been around long enough that i get to be the drill sergeant and yell at people |
| 20:45.11 | Aenslaed | 3 guilds with a full roster that have progressed in SSC, one that has killed mag as well. If they get booted out of our guild, there are no guilds that can kill 25man content with slots for an underperforming class. |
| 20:45.13 | chutwig | and nobody likes being yelled at by an angry half-drunk german |
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| 20:45.56 | Aenslaed | chutwig: sometimes, its whats needed. guild leadership might turn a blind eye to it. |
| 20:46.49 | chutwig | i would create a Rank of Shame rank |
| 20:46.52 | Aenslaed | but w/e. There are ways to deal with it and none of them are subtle |
| 20:46.54 | chutwig | and demote all the people who screw up to it |
| 20:47.44 | chutwig | the shadow priest on backup who wasn't at his cube "because mind flay only reaches 24yd lol" |
| 20:47.58 | Aenslaed | demoting doesn't do anything. Has to be a penalty associated. |
| 20:48.01 | chutwig | the hunter who kept autoshotting while everyone around him burned "i'm clicking I'M CLICKING" |
| 20:48.02 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35052 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua PitBull.lua): |
| 20:48.02 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura - include preliminary code for buff/debuff timeLeft and duration. |
| 20:48.02 | CIA-23 | - add cooldown to relevant buff frames, no text yet. |
| 20:48.16 | Aenslaed | you've heard the onyxia thing with the eastern european guy right? |
| 20:48.25 | Josh_Borke | MORE DOTS! MORE DOTS! |
| 20:48.27 | ckknight | ~moredots |
| 20:48.41 | purl | Run to the centre! |
| 20:48.41 | Aenslaed | 50dkp minus. works amazing at curing downs. |
| 20:48.41 | Josh_Borke | 50 DKP MINUS! |
| 20:48.41 | chutwig | FIFTY DKP MINUS |
| 20:48.42 | chutwig | i dunno |
| 20:48.42 | chutwig | that seems overly vindictive |
| 20:48.48 | ckknight | ~moredots |
| 20:48.55 | purl | Hit it like you mean it! |
| 20:48.57 | Aenslaed | chutwig: what is worse, not caring and wiping the raid, or penalizing the retard. |
| 20:48.58 | chutwig | at the end of the day it is still a game, it's not boot camp |
| 20:49.21 | Aenslaed | its a game yes. |
| 20:49.22 | evulhotdog | so true... |
| 20:49.25 | Aenslaed | but do you have fun wiping to stupid shit? |
| 20:49.27 | shieldb | imo it's really about finding a leadership and communication style that meshes well with the group of people that you're working with |
| 20:49.33 | Aenslaed | or do you have fun killing bosses? |
| 20:49.36 | chutwig | no, and therein lies the problem of trying to balance the two |
| 20:49.40 | chutwig | you're preaching to the choir |
| 20:49.45 | chutwig | this has all occurred to me a thousand times |
| 20:49.53 | ckknight | ~moredots |
| 20:50.05 | purl | Run to the centre! |
| 20:50.07 | shieldb | wiping to trash builds character! |
| 20:50.11 | Aenslaed | quick question, what rank is your guild for your server's faction in terms of prgress? |
| 20:50.40 | evulhotdog | i like his accent |
| 20:50.40 | ckknight | ~literal moredots |
| 20:51.19 | purl | "moredots" is "<reply>(Hit it like you mean it!|FIFTY DKP MINUS!!|NOW HANDLE IT!!|Whelps, LEFT SIDE!! Even side, MANY WHELPS!!|You lose fifty DKP again, because you didn't know what he f*ck to do!|More dots, more dots, throw more dots! Okay, stop dots!|You are going to DPS very, very slowly... and I mean f*cking slow!|Run to the centre!)" |
| 20:51.19 | evulhotdog | what accent does he have? |
| 20:51.19 | chutwig | we're near the top |
| 20:51.20 | Aenslaed | eastern european for sure. |
| 20:51.20 | chutwig | a few guilds have killed tidewalker and that's it |
| 20:51.20 | evulhotdog | MO DOTS |
| 20:51.28 | kergoth | ckknight: you adding the thingy to the buffs/debuffs like the way the stock unitframes do in 2.1? |
| 20:51.28 | chutwig | once upon a time my server was up there with the best of them |
| 20:51.28 | chutwig | but now we're pretty apathetic |
| 20:51.29 | evulhotdog | then they died. |
| 20:51.29 | ckknight | yes, kergoth |
| 20:51.29 | evulhotdog | im trying to learn C# |
| 20:51.30 | evulhotdog | >.< |
| 20:51.37 | Aenslaed | chutwig: well, if your guild has too many casuals, you might have to look at moving up. Hard to whip people into wanting to do more progress if they are the types content with levelling alts. |
| 20:51.53 | chutwig | Aenslaed: i mean the server as a whole |
| 20:52.04 | chutwig | in terms of progression relative to the rest of the server we're upper echelon |
| 20:52.14 | yacoob | purl, botsnack! |
| 20:52.14 | purl | :), yacoob |
| 20:52.19 | chutwig | during those rare periods when the mouthbreathers stop snorting kool-aid powder and actually click the fucking cubes |
| 20:52.38 | evulhotdog | hahahahaha |
| 20:52.48 | evulhotdog | i press the cubes >.> |
| 20:52.53 | Aenslaed | yeah. Has to be a penalty. Only way to deal with it. DKP, being replaced, that kind of stuff. |
| 20:52.55 | FISKER_Q | ~moredots |
| 20:53.10 | purl | You are going to DPS very, very slowly... and I mean f*cking slow! |
| 20:53.10 | Aenslaed | I dont cause i lag on phase 3 :/ |
| 20:53.21 | chutwig | it always goes well and then starts to go downhill |
| 20:53.21 | evulhotdog | dude |
| 20:53.26 | chutwig | first time, 27%, everything's fine |
| 20:53.27 | evulhotdog | that video makes me lmao irl |
| 20:53.34 | chutwig | somebody gets smashed by the ceiling right as blast nova comes out |
| 20:53.45 | chutwig | "lol sry couldnt see" |
| 20:53.46 | Aenslaed | ouch heh |
| 20:53.57 | shieldb | the 6k ceiling hit or the "you fail it" 75k hit? |
| 20:54.03 | chutwig | the "you fail at life" hit |
| 20:54.11 | Aenslaed | perfectly legit if nobody knew about that imo |
| 20:54.15 | chutwig | naw |
| 20:54.17 | chutwig | we've killed him before |
| 20:54.23 | Aenslaed | oh, well, no excuse there then |
| 20:54.24 | shieldb | you mean the raining pile of flaming rocks doesn't award you candy? |
| 20:54.28 | chutwig | for the record he also had the ceiling fall on him once before |
| 20:54.35 | chutwig | and is the only person in the guild to have been awarded such an hoor |
| 20:54.36 | chutwig | honor |
| 20:54.46 | Aenslaed | i lag and i can't see the ceiling fall. stupid spell effects :/ |
| 20:54.58 | chutwig | second time, our MT just takes an unlucky two-hit combo and gets turned to gnomepowder |
| 20:55.00 | Aenslaed | only died once to it though! |
| 20:55.06 | FISKER_Q | btw |
| 20:55.12 | chutwig | and from there on out things just got progressively worse |
| 20:55.13 | FISKER_Q | Not only is 1-shotting back, it's worse! <-nice topic :P |
| 20:55.19 | FISKER_Q | How can 1-shotting be worse than it was? :P |
| 20:55.27 | Aenslaed | FISKER_Q: thaddius |
| 20:55.31 | Antiarc|Work | You get 1-shotted twice as hard |
| 20:55.45 | FISKER_Q | You still get 1-shotted regardless though :P |
| 20:55.46 | Aenslaed | pre-nerf gruul |
| 20:55.47 | chutwig | i love the luck factor even in fights where you've done it a hundred times |
| 20:56.01 | Aenslaed | getting one shot is fine. getting one shot and wiping your attempt because of it is worse |
| 20:56.11 | chutwig | like prince and the friggin' infernals, or maulgar doing that lovely uppercut-cleave combo |
| 20:56.39 | chutwig | we had somebody ask if our MT took more crushing blows because he's a gnome |
| 20:56.41 | shieldb | we found a new way to have netherspite screw us over last night |
| 20:56.41 | chutwig | he doesn't raid any more |
| 20:57.01 | shieldb | person steps in to the red beam to take over for the initial tank, and gets the aggro lock and a hit before the hp bonus applies |
| 20:57.07 | Aenslaed | having a single person die cause they were being useless is fine. it can be corrected after the kill. Dying and wiping the raid cause you died though... |
| 20:57.14 | chutwig | that happened to us once, too |
| 20:57.19 | yacoob | chutwig, it's good that you value the humour... |
| 20:57.30 | sylvanaar | Elkano lol factionfu isnt collapsing anymore |
| 20:57.36 | chutwig | yacoob: the problem is that he meant it seriously |
| 20:57.39 | Aenslaed | shieldb: happens to us all the time |
| 20:57.43 | chutwig | like, he asked it repeatedly and quite earnestly |
| 20:57.48 | chutwig | plus it wasn't the only thing |
| 20:57.50 | Elkano | hmm? |
| 20:57.52 | shieldb | We hadn't seen it happen before last night |
| 20:57.57 | Aenslaed | i hate netherspite. Fight is so easy, but bugs, and some people are mouth breathers |
| 20:57.58 | chutwig | he had a habit of AFKing before and during pulls |
| 20:57.59 | yacoob | chutwig, I'd give him a warning shot in the knee, and *then* fire, provided he doesn't get the hint |
| 20:58.10 | chutwig | yacoob: see above comment about AFKing |
| 20:58.19 | shieldb | Aenslaed, have you had him bug out and start moving again during the netherbreath phase? |
| 20:58.20 | yacoob | casual player :) |
| 20:58.20 | chutwig | especially when it was his job to tank the mage on maulgar |
| 20:58.30 | Aenslaed | shieldb: yup, all the way up the tunnel |
| 20:58.30 | yacoob | "you're not leet enough for Molten Core!" |
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| 20:58.36 | chutwig | "o u mean im supposd 2 fb to get aggro?" |
| 20:58.52 | chutwig | i hate illhoof right now because of when he sacrifices his primary target |
| 20:58.57 | yacoob | oh, that would get him Yacoob's Rage instant |
| 20:58.58 | chutwig | that makes things very exciting |
| 20:59.09 | chutwig | at any rate |
| 20:59.10 | yacoob | I'm so ticked off on this kind of nubtalk |
| 20:59.18 | chutwig | time to escape this cesspool |
| 20:59.18 | yacoob | 'o u mean ... 2 fb...' |
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| 20:59.47 | Aenslaed | shieldb: too many fancy triggers makes netherspite prone to silly stuff |
| 21:00.01 | shieldb | yeah |
| 21:00.36 | shieldb | I'm still trying to figure out if there's a specific cause to nightbane fearbombing everyone |
| 21:00.48 | Aenslaed | eh? |
| 21:00.51 | Aenslaed | its range based |
| 21:00.52 | kebinusan | shieldb: yes one, people standing too damn close |
| 21:00.53 | shieldb | occasionally he'll swoop down during a flying phase, fear, then take off again |
| 21:00.56 | Aenslaed | 40 yards |
| 21:01.01 | Aenslaed | oh, that. |
| 21:01.03 | Aenslaed | never seen it |
| 21:01.04 | CIA-23 | 03gamefaq * r35053 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 21:01.04 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 21:01.04 | CIA-23 | - Typo Fix |
| 21:01.08 | kebinusan | hmm interesting |
| 21:01.10 | shieldb | not the normal fears |
| 21:01.32 | Aenslaed | never seen that happen |
| 21:02.22 | Aenslaed | nightbane was fun |
| 21:02.33 | Aenslaed | we got rid of 4 warriors because of that boss |
| 21:02.47 | Aenslaed | perfect way to get rid of the 4horsemen warriors :D |
| 21:03.01 | ckknight | hrm, interesting |
| 21:03.20 | Aenslaed | sorry, you can't stance dance so you'll have to be second string. |
| 21:03.28 | ckknight | the timeLeft and duration parameters only exist if you cast the spell |
| 21:03.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh. |
| 21:03.37 | ckknight | not just if you _can_ cast the spell |
| 21:03.40 | ZealotOnAStick | .1015 |
| 21:03.48 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm amused at that fix. |
| 21:04.39 | ckknight | and lol, Blizzard's implementation is buggy |
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| 21:06.19 | FISKER_Q | omg it's Tuller |
| 21:06.48 | nymbia | lies |
| 21:07.29 | Tuller | pants |
| 21:07.29 | FISKER_Q | i don't see why they don't just give us timers for all buffs and debuffs |
| 21:07.32 | ckknight | FISKER_Q: because you touch yourself at night. |
| 21:07.47 | FISKER_Q | yeah |
| 21:07.51 | FISKER_Q | and it's night right now |
| 21:07.54 | FISKER_Q | i also got a webcam |
| 21:07.55 | FISKER_Q | wanna see? |
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| 21:13.30 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r35054 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: make the violationUser table more robust. |
| 21:14.21 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35055 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (8 files in 8 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Datamine those updates! |
| 21:15.01 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35056 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - fix debuff tooltip updates |
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| 21:21.20 | nymbia | hrm |
| 21:21.29 | nymbia | i've got a bunch of stuff to add to that anyway |
| 21:21.34 | nymbia | with the new factions in 2.1 |
| 21:21.46 | sag_ich_nicht | hello, i'm having a problem with fubar, i just installed it and like it so far, but i have a problem with it repositioning my actionbar(default UI one), i repositioned mine with another mod(BarOptions[yes, technically these are not the ) to move it to the lower right corner, but fubar resets it back into the middle of the screen every so often(guarenteed if i mount or unmount), i assume this happens because of a conflict be |
| 21:21.58 | nymbia | i'll work on that once the patch is up and all the stuff's on wowhead |
| 21:22.12 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35057 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - properly hide the tooltip if an aura disappears |
| 21:22.46 | NeoTron | so I tried MoveAnything but it doesn't do what I hoped it did |
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| 21:23.07 | NeoTron | I am looking for an addon that simply unlocks (but remembers) positioning on default frames like talents, skills, etc |
| 21:23.08 | Arrowmaster | sag_ich_nicht: theres an option in fubar for repossitioning blizzard frames you probably need to disable |
| 21:23.20 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: moveframes? |
| 21:23.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: as i said, i already did |
| 21:23.52 | NeoTron | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?0000000000000000000000554001005010000000033303032002300303531300 |
| 21:23.55 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.58 | Arrowmaster | you did? |
| 21:23.59 | NeoTron | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/unitframe/moveframes/? |
| 21:24.11 | Arrowmaster | looks like you tried to say too much one one line and it got cut off |
| 21:24.14 | NeoTron | yeah taht looks exactly like what I need |
| 21:24.22 | ckknight | typo in that last commit |
| 21:24.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: where did it get cut off |
| 21:24.31 | NeoTron | "a conflict be" |
| 21:24.34 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35058 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - fix typo |
| 21:24.52 | sag_ich_nicht | a conflict between the two(well duh), could someone please give me a hint why this is happening(i disabled auto adjustment of blizzards frames already) so i can try and fix it(my lua is shitty, but i really wanna use fubar ><)? :( |
| 21:24.54 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 21:25.07 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35059 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - fix typo |
| 21:25.30 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and is it normal that my w |
| 21:25.34 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 21:25.58 | sag_ich_nicht | *oh and is it normal that my daytime indicators etc. are gone from the minimap now? |
| 21:26.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats from clockfu |
| 21:26.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ah, thanks |
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| 21:28.32 | ravagernl | gamefaq: l2quote (points at babble) |
| 21:28.57 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35060 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add cooldown display to debuffs |
| 21:29.15 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone else have an idea why it's repositioning(or how i could find out why)? :( |
| 21:32.18 | sag_ich_nicht | the repositioning works for a bit, then it gets moved back into the middle |
| 21:32.49 | sag_ich_nicht | (like i said, it also happens each time i mount/unmount) |
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| 21:33.04 | CIA-23 | 03totalpackage * r35061 10Cellular/ (. Cellular.toc core.lua): |
| 21:33.04 | CIA-23 | Cellular |
| 21:33.04 | CIA-23 | - added an option to not show name with messages |
| 21:33.04 | CIA-23 | - added a button that closes the window and delete that person's history |
| 21:33.04 | CIA-23 | - deleting a history entry or the entire history now requires shift-click |
| 21:33.04 | CIA-23 | - now uses SharedMedia-1.0 |
| 21:33.06 | CIA-23 | - the usual code cleanups |
| 21:34.56 | Saroz | wtf is Cellular |
| 21:35.16 | ilifin | cellular, modular, bananaphonicular |
| 21:35.18 | nymbia | Roartindon: what's that option do? |
| 21:35.42 | nymbia | oh i just noticed the comment |
| 21:35.48 | Roartindon | nymbia okay :) |
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| 21:36.45 | Amadeo | I see this new upcoming EQ2 expansion and I have good memories from the original :) |
| 21:36.49 | zoktar | anyone know a buffbar that "normal" squares but with timers in them ? |
| 21:37.18 | zoktar | or ontop or under |
| 21:37.21 | ilifin | minimalist |
| 21:37.31 | zoktar | thnnx |
| 21:37.32 | ilifin | does a bit more though :p |
| 21:38.26 | Amadeo | I'd like to try EQ2 again...but my PC can't really handle it |
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| 21:39.48 | rornewbie | what is wowace |
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| 21:46.36 | nymbia | Roartindon: nice, i like it |
| 21:48.19 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: no idea |
| 21:49.09 | aztecs|Awaa | lawl, grull bugged out after 3-4 wipes, no hateful or shattter |
| 21:49.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: is there some code in fubar that's run each time you mount/unmount(maybe not caused by that action directly but by something else caused by mounting/unmounting)? |
| 21:49.42 | ckknight | possible, but unlikely |
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| 21:50.05 | sag_ich_nicht | because it happens 100% certainly when i mount/unmount >.> |
| 21:50.26 | Funkeh` | shieldb: kill tidecaller & nether-mage timers on leotheras death |
| 21:50.47 | shieldb | also technicians? |
| 21:51.25 | kebinusan | hmm is there an easy place to edit a layout to change the number of debuffs per row or number of rows of debuffs in pitbull? |
| 21:51.37 | Funkeh` | not seeing any of those bars on my screen, so just leave those out atm |
| 21:52.04 | shieldb | actually it looks like technicians aren't tracked at all currently |
| 21:52.11 | shieldb | time to fix that ;) |
| 21:53.14 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35062 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 21:53.14 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura - change how buffs are created. Now figures out what to show, gets |
| 21:53.14 | CIA-23 | rid of unused frames, then fills in the frames, rather than fills in the frames |
| 21:53.14 | CIA-23 | right away. This will make it so that buff frames will not repeatedly swap. |
| 21:53.20 | Gngsk | Is there anyway to make the blip on the player arrow on the worldmap not stop blipping? |
| 21:53.33 | Gngsk | I mean when you first open it, it pulses twice, then stops. |
| 21:54.29 | FISKER_Q | btw nymbia any idea why grindstatus' timedata doesn't work half of the time or something like that? :P |
| 21:54.47 | wallen | Is it only me that thinks that darkening (or colouring to distinguish) your dots/debuffs on a target frame could be of some use, even if I still need to discover which ? :/ |
| 21:55.17 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r35063 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: fix 15% warning |
| 21:55.25 | Gngsk | wallen, isn't blizz adding something like that in 2.1? A timer on the debuff or something. |
| 21:55.56 | nymbia | FISKER_Q: nope |
| 21:56.13 | ckknight | wallen: yea, adding it |
| 21:56.21 | ckknight | wallen: for 2.1, though |
| 21:56.44 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r35064 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: update deDE |
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| 21:57.08 | nymbia | Roartindon: what's a good description in the options for the padding |
| 21:57.32 | Roartindon | nymbia: good question, in practise, it should be the maximum jitter time |
| 21:57.39 | Roartindon | But that's getting too technical |
| 21:57.49 | nymbia | yeah |
| 21:57.52 | Roartindon | I've called it safety margin |
| 21:57.59 | Roartindon | Latency safety margin |
| 21:58.16 | Roartindon | Which is probably more immediately comprehensible to users |
| 21:58.49 | nymbia | heh, yeah |
| 21:59.15 | wallen | ckknight: night |
| 21:59.20 | ckknight | wallen: ? |
| 21:59.28 | wallen | eh, I wanted to type "nice" |
| 21:59.32 | wallen | I don't know why I typed night |
| 22:00.07 | shieldb | Funkeh`, do you know off the top of your head if technicians appear anywhere other then around leotheras? |
| 22:00.21 | Antiarc|Work | Roartindon: Why not "deadzone"? Same terminology used for joysticks and the like. |
| 22:00.26 | Megalon | wallen: it's like when you wanna type 'hi' but you type something like 'omfg gtfu u stupid son of a bitch' |
| 22:00.32 | Funkeh` | i pay minimal attention on trash so i couldn't even tell you which those are :/ |
| 22:00.34 | Megalon | they keys are just to close together! |
| 22:00.37 | shieldb | heh |
| 22:00.39 | shieldb | no worries ;) |
| 22:00.40 | Megalon | the* |
| 22:00.41 | Megalon | :c |
| 22:01.03 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: The padding option is a separate addition to the latency module in quartz |
| 22:01.19 | Roartindon | Deadzone may describe the latency block, but doesn't describe the option I added |
| 22:02.32 | Cryect | <shieldb> Funkeh`, do you know off the top of your head if technicians appear anywhere other then around leotheras? |
| 22:02.39 | Cryect | there are tehcnicians at leotheras? |
| 22:02.50 | Funkeh` | Cryect: /shrug |
| 22:02.51 | Cryect | I thought the technicians were all at the pumps |
| 22:03.12 | shieldb | Cryect, it's very possible that I'm misremembering which trash is where - I'm at work ;) |
| 22:03.35 | koaschten | goddamn |
| 22:03.36 | Cryect | Really if trash does nothign special I barely remember them |
| 22:03.37 | koaschten | 05/11/07 00:02 - Fgbsdfgerbri (whisper): |
| 22:03.37 | koaschten | Ssegames News : Magic Milan blow away United to reach Champions League final (5:3) |
| 22:03.41 | koaschten | ... |
| 22:03.55 | shieldb | yeah I'm just trying to tie the right trash to the right bosses for incubator :) |
| 22:04.25 | Cryect | Tracks respawn times? |
| 22:04.31 | shieldb | for trash, yes |
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| 22:05.17 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35065 10Quartz/ (Quartz-enUS.lua Quartz.lua Quartz.toc): |
| 22:05.17 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 22:05.17 | CIA-23 | - Implement Embed mode for Latency module, thanks Roartindon! |
| 22:05.44 | nymbia | Roartindon: mind checking if the options and descriptions make sense? ;) |
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| 22:05.52 | Roartindon | Sure, one sec |
| 22:05.55 | Cryect | Heh, when someone said quartz eralier thought they were talking about MacOS >_> |
| 22:06.32 | nymbia | hehe ;) |
| 22:06.34 | chutwig | korts |
| 22:06.45 | chutwig | feature-complete leopard beta soon! |
| 22:06.46 | chutwig | great excitement |
| 22:07.09 | Leialyn | @ckknight: When you have 3D Portraits active in PitBull with fallback to 2D when unit is out of range, then it draws the last 3d model it had over the 2d portrait, same with class picture. Could you hide the 3d Model if fallback to 2d/class is enabled? |
| 22:07.18 | ckknight | you do it |
| 22:08.01 | Leialyn | no idea where you did hide it and I don't have svn access anymore xD |
| 22:08.03 | ckknight | I never really messed with the portrait module |
| 22:08.40 | Leialyn | *sigh* I want portraits :( I liked my DUF with adapt, cause adapt was nice ^^ |
| 22:08.51 | Roartindon | nymbia: Need to remove the RegisterEvent for UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START I think |
| 22:09.11 | nymbia | oh, yeah |
| 22:09.53 | Roartindon | And probably disable the embed safety margin option if embed isn't enabled? |
| 22:10.03 | CIA-23 | 03shieldb * r35066 10Incubator/ (6 files): Incubator: Tied Nether-Mages and Tidecallers to Leotheras, added tracking for Greyheart Technicians |
| 22:10.09 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35067 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 22:10.09 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 22:10.09 | CIA-23 | - bugfix |
| 22:10.25 | Roartindon | nymbia: Looks fine, if users start asking questions, then maybe figure out better name/description then :) |
| 22:10.45 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35068 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 22:10.45 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura - change how debuffs are created. Now figures out what to show, |
| 22:10.45 | CIA-23 | gets rid of unused frames, then fills in the frames, rather than fills in the |
| 22:10.45 | CIA-23 | frames right away. This will make it so that debuff frames will not repeatedly |
| 22:10.45 | CIA-23 | swap. |
| 22:10.47 | CIA-23 | - optimizations. |
| 22:10.49 | CIA-23 | - debuffsort will no longer look at the dispelType if they're not friendly. |
| 22:11.12 | nymbia | Roartindon: sounds good to me ;) |
| 22:11.19 | ckknight | gah, debuffsorting is still funky |
| 22:12.00 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35069 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 22:12.00 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 22:12.00 | CIA-23 | - Hide the embed margin option when embed mode's disabled. |
| 22:12.34 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35070 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - typo |
| 22:12.38 | ckknight | alright, that should fix it |
| 22:13.08 | sergio | is that new filtering working out okay? |
| 22:13.13 | sergio | i just got home |
| 22:13.17 | kergoth | nymbia: <3 tradeskill merge |
| 22:13.35 | kergoth | would be cool to take the 920 seconds or whatever -> minutes though :) |
| 22:13.56 | nymbia | kergoth: ok |
| 22:14.26 | ckknight | sergio: seems to be |
| 22:14.33 | stavmar | nymbia: love the mod man, very cool and clean thanks for teh work... |
| 22:15.04 | nymbia | stavmar: thanks :) |
| 22:15.34 | sergio | excited to try it in a real raid |
| 22:15.40 | sergio | it's something i've wanted for a while |
| 22:17.18 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35071 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 22:17.18 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 22:17.18 | CIA-23 | - Tradeskill Merge module now condenses time numbers in the same fashion as the buffs module. |
| 22:17.34 | nymbia | kergoth: ^ ;) |
| 22:17.35 | kergoth | nice |
| 22:17.36 | kergoth | thanks |
| 22:17.58 | kergoth | umm what else was i gonna bring up... oh, itd be cool, and probably easy to do, to show # of charges on debuffs on the target |
| 22:18.03 | kergoth | i.e. my deadly poison |
| 22:18.17 | Amadeo | what's Quartz? I'm geting jealous |
| 22:18.22 | nymbia | ooh, yeah |
| 22:18.23 | kergoth | a modular cast bar |
| 22:18.24 | nymbia | i'll do that |
| 22:18.32 | kergoth | with latency, target buffs/debuffs in 2.1, etc |
| 22:18.32 | Amadeo | oh neat |
| 22:18.33 | kergoth | its sexy |
| 22:18.44 | Funkeh` | nymbia: wtb enemy cast bar in Q |
| 22:18.54 | nymbia | Funkeh`: give it time ;) |
| 22:19.05 | Funkeh` | nymbbleh |
| 22:19.07 | kergoth | at least its modular, so it wont "bloat" in the traditional fashion |
| 22:19.09 | Aenslaed | quartz does the same as oCB? |
| 22:19.12 | Funkeh` | loltabcomplete |
| 22:19.41 | Funkeh` | nymbia: wtb 2.1 also :( |
| 22:19.42 | kergoth | nymbia: question is, do we want a quartz module for class specific important self buffs (i.e. find weakness on a rogue), or just let addons like ClassTimer do the full fledged class timer bars |
| 22:20.10 | nymbia | hrm.. not sure. |
| 22:20.33 | kergoth | its a question of scope |
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| 22:20.53 | kergoth | classtimer lets you enable/disable each buff/debuff and stuff, which is cool, so maybe anyone that needs that more flexible stuff should just use that |
| 22:20.55 | kergoth | i dunno |
| 22:21.29 | Funkeh` | nymbia: another issue, can you remove the waterfall dependancy |
| 22:21.51 | nymbia | O.o |
| 22:21.58 | Funkeh` | nymbia: ie, make it optional |
| 22:21.58 | kergoth | <3 waterfall |
| 22:22.01 | nymbia | but i like waterfall :( |
| 22:22.07 | Funkeh` | like other mods :p |
| 22:22.11 | Funkeh` | so i can disable it |
| 22:22.20 | nymbia | fien ;) |
| 22:22.24 | Funkeh` | i use dewdrop fine no reason to have waterfall load :p |
| 22:22.42 | kergoth | my 70 rogue has 6800 health :( I need to gear up |
| 22:22.43 | kergoth | <-nub |
| 22:23.06 | hyperChipmunk | i could fit two of your healthbars in one of mine |
| 22:23.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:23.17 | FISKER_Q | malchezzaar that bitch |
| 22:23.24 | sbu | quartz > CBR? :P |
| 22:23.26 | NightHawkTheSane | my shammy barely breaks 7k >< |
| 22:23.29 | FISKER_Q | 1% and he oneshots the tank |
| 22:23.35 | kergoth | course my guild is only just starting in kara, but there's still a fair bit of blues thatd be upgrades |
| 22:23.36 | FISKER_Q | well 3% :( |
| 22:23.41 | FISKER_Q | but we zerged him to 1% |
| 22:23.46 | hyperChipmunk | ee,,,,,, |
| 22:23.49 | hyperChipmunk | er |
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| 22:24.17 | hyperChipmunk | i've never done any raids post-TBC, nor any dungeons with more than 3 people =) |
| 22:24.34 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35072 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 22:24.35 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 22:24.35 | CIA-23 | - Don't explode if Waterfall's not present, since Funkeh` is terrible. |
| 22:24.55 | Funkeh` | extra love for that, nymbia |
| 22:25.03 | nymbia | ;) |
| 22:25.04 | hyperChipmunk | finally, something we can all agree on |
| 22:25.16 | NightHawkTheSane | what, extra love for nymbia ? |
| 22:25.35 | nymbia | extra feature requests for nymbia! get with the times! ;) |
| 22:26.11 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35073 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - sort the data list instead of the debuff table |
| 22:28.28 | sbu | mh something is broken with pitbull auras |
| 22:30.25 | sbu | screenshot coming soon :o |
| 22:33.32 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r35074 10Aloft/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:33.32 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 22:33.32 | CIA-23 | - Added AliasData module, disabled by default |
| 22:33.32 | CIA-23 | - Options are found under Name Text menu. |
| 22:33.51 | CIA-23 | 03kemayo * r35075 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: |
| 22:33.51 | CIA-23 | PitBull: |
| 22:33.51 | CIA-23 | -Portrait: Drycoded quick shot at hiding the main portrait frame when the fallback is being used (should deal with the 3d model |
| 22:33.51 | CIA-23 | still appearing behind the fallback texture). |
| 22:34.04 | Kemayo | Leialyn: That might well work to fix your complaint. |
| 22:34.27 | Leialyn | lemme test ^^ |
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| 22:35.54 | Leialyn | nope Kemayo |
| 22:35.59 | Leialyn | I had a similar idea |
| 22:37.22 | sbu | ckknight: http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4336/pitbullauras2eu8.png |
| 22:37.26 | sbu | see party auras :o |
| 22:37.44 | ckknight | multiples? |
| 22:38.17 | Kemayo | Leialyn: Oh well. I'll have to play with it when I get home. |
| 22:38.27 | sbu | ckknight: should be arcane brillance |
| 22:38.45 | sbu | tooltiop shows arcane brillance, 4 times ;o |
| 22:38.58 | Leialyn | Kemayo: I've got it Oo |
| 22:39.17 | sbu | but with filtering enabled it shouldn't display any of then ;o |
| 22:39.18 | sbu | them |
| 22:39.24 | Leialyn | Change your portrait:Hide() into portrait:ClearModel() |
| 22:39.32 | Leialyn | seems to work ^^ |
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| 22:40.07 | ckknight | sbu: and when's the last time you updated? |
| 22:41.38 | sbu | mh, 30-40 min ago |
| 22:42.24 | ckknight | I've been doing some crazy changes during that period... |
| 22:42.47 | Aenslaed | nymbia: omg. This lag bar feature is insanely good! |
| 22:42.57 | Gngsk | craaaaazy! |
| 22:43.00 | nymbia | Aenslaed: :) |
| 22:43.06 | Leialyn | @Kemayo: Got it? ^^ |
| 22:43.25 | Gngsk | anyone here use tekkub's latest mod? |
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| 22:43.33 | ckknight | what's his latest mod, Gngsk? |
| 22:43.38 | Gngsk | VendorBait |
| 22:43.42 | sbu | ckknight: and those things are fixed now? ;o |
| 22:43.43 | ckknight | and it does... |
| 22:43.48 | ckknight | sbu: don't know. |
| 22:43.49 | sbu | r35049 |
| 22:43.56 | Gngsk | it highlites the most expensive quest reward, requires Tuller's SellFish for sell values |
| 22:43.57 | Roartindon | nymbia: I think I'd recommend changing the example ping variation from 200-400 to 300-500 to give the safety margin of 0.2... just to avoid the numbers 200ms appearing for both minimum ping time and safety margin :) |
| 22:44.30 | Gngsk | ckknight, what I'm wondering is if I have Tuller's SellFish can I disable his Ludwig_SellValue, seems redundant to have both |
| 22:45.08 | kergoth | Gngsk: yes |
| 22:45.09 | kergoth | you can |
| 22:45.11 | kergoth | and should |
| 22:45.16 | Gngsk | kergoth, k thx |
| 22:45.18 | knarf^_^ | what are we talking about here, ping ? where, what? |
| 22:45.34 | Roartindon | knarf^_^: Quartz latency module |
| 22:45.43 | Aenslaed | Just need to find a new version of the lag cast mod |
| 22:45.49 | Aenslaed | used to have one but it broke for 2.0 |
| 22:46.05 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: You have to use /stopcasting macros |
| 22:46.09 | Gngsk | kergoth, any idea if it'd be possible for LockSmith to work through the 'do not trade' slot? |
| 22:46.10 | CIA-23 | 03kemayo * r35076 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: |
| 22:46.10 | CIA-23 | PitBull: |
| 22:46.10 | CIA-23 | -Portrait: Change portrait:Hide() to portrait:ClearModel(), which Leialyn says should work. |
| 22:46.10 | Roartindon | for relevant/important spells |
| 22:46.22 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: oh. The /stopcasting mod from before no longer works? |
| 22:46.28 | Roartindon | Addons can no longer intercept the required functions, so no, it won't work |
| 22:46.30 | Kemayo | Leialyn: There you go. |
| 22:46.34 | Aenslaed | oh :( |
| 22:46.34 | Leialyn | xD ty ^^ |
| 22:46.42 | kergoth | Gngsk: dunno, but thatd be cool. ask ammo :) |
| 22:46.46 | Aenslaed | yeah, thats probably why I never found a 2.0 version of it! |
| 22:46.52 | Funkeh` | shieldb: wtb comma on line 139 |
| 22:46.58 | sbu | ckknight: actually that screenshot is from my gf. its working for me except that i dont see the druid's buffs (all other party buffs are correct) |
| 22:47.11 | Gngsk | kergoth, yeah, also CrowBar doesn't seem to notice that you just unlocked the box until what I would guess is a bag update event |
| 22:47.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i looked around a bit, fubar is touching MainMenuBar using jostlelib? |
| 22:47.13 | ckknight | sbu: are you a druid? |
| 22:47.19 | ckknight | or what do you mean? |
| 22:47.23 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: yes |
| 22:47.56 | Funkeh` | nymbia: where my dewdrop menu :( |
| 22:48.03 | knarf^_^ | looks interesting |
| 22:48.40 | FISKER_Q | die prince! |
| 22:49.12 | sergio | ckknight: my buffs are getting omnicc timers because of the cooldown model i think |
| 22:49.24 | ckknight | sergio: hrm... |
| 22:49.24 | Tuller | true |
| 22:49.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: is it possible that the auto position adjust is still being run for MainMenuBar for some reason even if it's disabled? |
| 22:50.25 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: shouldn't happen if nothing is registered with it. |
| 22:50.39 | sbu | ckknight: no - i'm that priest, but i can't see the druid's buffs (enabled filtering - fortitude, spirit) |
| 22:50.48 | ckknight | sbu: oh, hrm |
| 22:50.53 | ckknight | sbu: I'll look into it |
| 22:51.14 | ckknight | sergio: that makes sense why it was so screwy. It's showing on PitBull's auras? |
| 22:51.20 | sergio | ckknight: yes |
| 22:51.26 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:51.26 | sergio | i can screenshot if you'd like |
| 22:51.28 | ckknight | no |
| 22:51.29 | nymbia | Funkeh`: huhwha? |
| 22:51.38 | nymbia | Funkeh`: oh i see how it is |
| 22:52.17 | Aenslaed | Is anyone else here still having a ton of bugs with statlogic? |
| 22:52.44 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:50] <@ckknight> sag_ich_nicht: shouldn't happen if nothing is registered with it. <--uh... sorry if i'm not following quite, do you mean registered with MainMenuBar? |
| 22:52.53 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: I'm busy. |
| 22:52.57 | sag_ich_nicht | okay :) |
| 22:55.40 | Funkeh` | nymbia: ya! |
| 22:57.00 | nymbia | Funkeh`: lol |
| 22:57.09 | Funkeh` | nymbia: <3 |
| 22:57.10 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: im experiencing something weird with resizing the violation gui, just randomly clicking right and left mouse in different areas of the screen and sometimes it will start increasing or decreasing the size on every single click |
| 22:57.12 | nymbia | Funkeh`: gimme a few, i'm doing background options at the moment |
| 22:57.22 | Funkeh` | nymbia: np bud :) |
| 22:59.07 | sbu | ckknight: possible to show buff duration in the aura tooltip? (2.1) |
| 22:59.23 | ckknight | sbu: I already coded that in |
| 22:59.57 | sbu | oh ok |
| 22:59.57 | sbu | :) |
| 22:59.59 | sbu | nice |
| 23:01.45 | Aenslaed | what a great time for mods! Pitbull, Aloft, now Quartz! |
| 23:02.31 | Roartindon | nymbia: Oh damn, didn't realise you were still in here.. Posted a one line code addition in the forum thread to the lag module for better appearance :) |
| 23:03.13 | nymbia | Roartindon: ok. go ahead and commit it if you'd like, my working copy's undergoing some background madness |
| 23:03.32 | Roartindon | okay, let me check out a dev svn version and commit it |
| 23:05.07 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r35077 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: Quartz: QuartzLatency: If the latency module is in embed mode, pull the latency bar up to ARTWORK level instead of background |
| 23:05.38 | kergoth | what's embed mode? |
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| 23:05.58 | nymbia | increases the actual cast bar by the lag amound |
| 23:06.06 | nymbia | s/amound/amount/ |
| 23:06.23 | Roartindon | kergoth: the latency block is embedded into the cast bar, and the casting time adjusted so that the end of the castbar lines up with the start of the safe casting time for the next spell |
| 23:06.58 | nymbia | Roartindon: i havented looked at the commit, but did you stick it back down in background if embed mode gets turned off? |
| 23:07.00 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35078 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add text to aura cooldowns. This should theoretically have an option to turn off. |
| 23:07.04 | Roartindon | nymbia: Yep. |
| 23:07.12 | kergoth | ah |
| 23:07.15 | Roartindon | it's a db.lagembed and "ARTWORK" or "BACKGROUND" |
| 23:07.16 | nymbia | Roartindon: great, thanks :) |
| 23:07.57 | ckknight | one current issue with the text is that it obscures the aura almost entirely... |
| 23:08.44 | nymbia | hate that. |
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| 23:09.38 | ckknight | nymbia: any ideas? |
| 23:10.04 | Roartindon | ckk: alpha options? |
| 23:10.29 | ckknight | I suppose that could help |
| 23:10.30 | nymbia | ckknight: other than shrinking the text, not really :( |
| 23:10.32 | Roartindon | ckknight: default it to 0.3 or so? |
| 23:10.40 | ckknight | 0.3 is kinda unreadable |
| 23:10.49 | NightHawkTheSane | smaller, more legible fonts ftw? |
| 23:11.07 | Roartindon | 0.3 should be visible if you're looking for it, and not in the way if you don't want it? |
| 23:11.47 | ckknight | err, nope, 0.3 is a bit too faint |
| 23:11.57 | Roartindon | hmm.. try 0.5 then |
| 23:12.09 | ckknight | 0.5 looks good |
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| 23:16.33 | FISKER_Q | I didn't get Gorehowl QQ |
| 23:16.44 | Gngsk | /wrists imo |
| 23:16.49 | FISKER_Q | yeah |
| 23:17.01 | vodrin | a hunter outrolled a warrior for gorehowl on my last kara raid |
| 23:17.02 | vodrin | =d |
| 23:17.42 | FISKER_Q | :d |
| 23:17.49 | FISKER_Q | It was me or a prot warrior |
| 23:17.56 | FISKER_Q | i passed on it for the prot warrior |
| 23:18.14 | vodrin | what class are you ? |
| 23:18.32 | nymbia | terrible Fiskerdin. terrible. |
| 23:18.38 | FISKER_Q | paladin :P |
| 23:18.43 | NightHawkTheSane | odd, as a prot warrior i'd pass it to a pally :P |
| 23:19.29 | vodrin | maybe he respecs for some pewpew peeveepee then back ;-o |
| 23:19.29 | FISKER_Q | The only reason i want it is to piss people off in orgrimmar |
| 23:19.33 | NightHawkTheSane | probably vodrin, i never could afford that though |
| 23:19.44 | FISKER_Q | "Omg a healing paladin with gorehowl /spit /spit /rude /spit /t fiskerdin fuck you faggot" |
| 23:19.45 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35079 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 23:19.45 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura - make cooldown text smaller, fainter. |
| 23:19.45 | CIA-23 | - tweakings. |
| 23:19.53 | vodrin | this hunter who took from a warrior already had legacy too ^^ |
| 23:20.23 | vodrin | which gets some sexual buff in 2.1 |
| 23:22.37 | ckknight | what do you call the cooldown spiral thing, officially? |
| 23:22.48 | vodrin | 'clock' ? |
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| 23:23.23 | vodrin | Your current target will now display all of the duration based spells that you have cast on them with cooldown rings so you will know how much longer they will last. |
| 23:23.29 | vodrin | 'cooldown rings' ;d |
| 23:23.31 | kergoth | "cooldown rings"? weird |
| 23:23.38 | kergoth | thats not what i thought of when i read cooldown rings |
| 23:23.45 | kergoth | i'd think of it more like a spinner |
| 23:23.47 | FISKER_Q | that's exactly what i thought :P |
| 23:23.53 | Diao | cooldown spiral? |
| 23:24.01 | vodrin | yeah i was hoping for some magic new piece of ui |
| 23:24.04 | kergoth | like / - \ | / - \ |
| 23:24.11 | kergoth | or however they do that, the ascii spinner |
| 23:24.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:24.15 | Diao | lol |
| 23:24.19 | vodrin | not just a spiral on the debuff icons :< |
| 23:24.29 | Diao | like the countdown thing on your abilities that goes clockwise? |
| 23:24.35 | vodrin | yar |
| 23:24.45 | Diao | oh |
| 23:25.02 | Diao | good question |
| 23:25.03 | Megalon | but, if you live on the southern hemisphere, it goes counter-clockwise! |
| 23:25.04 | Diao | brb reboot |
| 23:25.26 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35080 10Quartz/ (Quartz-enUS.lua Quartz.lua): |
| 23:25.26 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 23:25.26 | CIA-23 | - Expand Border and Background-related options. |
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| 23:33.12 | Bver | anyone have an idea why my escape key just stops functioning every now and then. I think its mod related tho im not sure which one it is :( |
| 23:33.36 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35081 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 23:33.36 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 23:33.36 | CIA-23 | - If Waterfall's present: /quartz for options in Waterfall, /quartzcl for options in AceConsole. |
| 23:33.36 | CIA-23 | - If Waterfall's missing and Dewdrop's present: /quartz for options in Dewdrop, /quartzcl for options in AceConsole. |
| 23:33.36 | CIA-23 | - If neither are present (who would do such a thing?), /quartz for options in AceConsole. |
| 23:33.37 | CIA-23 | ~whalenametheft Funkeh` |
| 23:33.51 | purl | ACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) kicks Funkeh`'s ass and steals his/her name. The now anonymous target weeps. |
| 23:34.05 | Funkeh` | oh dear god |
| 23:34.10 | kenlyric | hide party frames in raide borked in aguf? |
| 23:34.10 | Funkeh` | who made that |
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| 23:34.37 | ckknight | lol, Funkeh` |
| 23:35.20 | Megalon | nice commit msg :P |
| 23:35.33 | nymbia | ;) |
| 23:35.51 | TheKarn | lol |
| 23:36.03 | sergio | I don't like the cooldowns on buffs |
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| 23:36.07 | sergio | it's too messy |
| 23:37.34 | vodrin | would it be possible to have 'hide the unit fames tooltip in combat' to also be 'hide the unit frames tooltip forever' so users could make a nice 'mouseover' frame |
| 23:37.41 | vodrin | and not have the default tooltip show |
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| 23:39.21 | JoshBorke | vodrin: TinyTip offers that |
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| 23:40.04 | hyperChipmunk | what i have so far for feedtable for dewdrop, for anyone who's interested: http://ace.pastey.net/26330 and its followup |
| 23:40.17 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r35082 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 23:40.17 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:40.17 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 23:40.35 | vodrin | yeah its a bit heavy for what i wanted, i could just do a lil script for it i guess.. just thought the interest might be there |
| 23:41.03 | hyperChipmunk | so you don't have to use AceOptions tables just to do dewdrops, and so you can use all of dewdrop's features |
| 23:41.03 | vodrin | to have pitbull 'mouseover' frame act as mouseover tooltip |
| 23:41.08 | hyperChipmunk | but still lets you feed a multilevel table, like the feedaceoptionstable |
| 23:41.25 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35083 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 23:41.25 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura - add options to toggle the cooldown and the text, independently. Also added the option to adjust the alpha of the text. |
| 23:41.25 | CIA-23 | - These options are in the global options section of the main PitBull menu. |
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| 23:45.15 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35084 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - tweak buffsort/debuffsort |
| 23:46.04 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35085 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - tweak |
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| 23:49.16 | ckknight | hey Bam__ |
| 23:49.24 | Bam__ | howdy |
| 23:50.14 | hyperChipmunk | oh...http://ace.pastey.net/26330?lang=lua might be a bit easier to read =P |
| 23:51.08 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35086 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - text should be above the cooldown spiral dealy. |
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| 23:59.11 | Funkeh` | nymbia: cmon wheres my fubar plugin! |
