| 00:00.03 | Megalon | malchazeen: 91dps dagger :x |
| 00:00.05 | NeoTron | unless they are buffing those too to match |
| 00:00.21 | nevcairiel | what speed megalon? |
| 00:01.00 | hyperChipmunk | oh agi |
| 00:01.05 | hyperChipmunk | my bad |
| 00:01.07 | hyperChipmunk | i duno =) |
| 00:01.17 | hyperChipmunk | was thinking dodge rating |
| 00:01.35 | wallen | the eye from magtheridon is sick now, +52 passive is totally overpowered |
| 00:01.58 | Megalon | uploading pics |
| 00:02.00 | gnorlish | rawr |
| 00:02.04 | Megalon | http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=malchazeenur1.jpg |
| 00:02.04 | sylvanaar | anyone know about click casting on name plates? yes no? |
| 00:02.16 | Megalon | the romolus/julia dagger: 88dps |
| 00:02.17 | wallen | not me |
| 00:02.18 | gnorlish | means i can just wait and get eye rather than spend 41 heroic bades on silver crescent |
| 00:02.23 | Megalon | erm, 87 => http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daggerfn5.jpg |
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| 00:02.35 | wallen | you can have both, gnorlish! |
| 00:02.46 | NeoTron | gnorlish: I just got the silver cresent.. but of course I want the eye as well |
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| 00:02.55 | NeoTron | to make a nice pair :) |
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| 00:04.52 | wallen | anyway, 2.1 is definitively the patch of love for every single class :s |
| 00:05.17 | vhaarr | Priests still need lots of work. |
| 00:05.53 | wallen | Probably, pvewise, with all those buffs to items nobody should really be disappointed though I guess |
| 00:06.13 | vhaarr | nah, it's really nice, but we die too easily in raids. |
| 00:06.53 | vhaarr | at least some of us have desperate prayer, but not everyone |
| 00:08.50 | NeoTron | so has shadoweave or spellstrike changed at all in the patch? |
| 00:09.28 | Gngsk | what's the point of priests having unique racial abilities, that never made sense to me |
| 00:09.32 | Gngsk | just give them all to all priests |
| 00:09.51 | NeoTron | it was a way to make the concept of "undead priest" a bit unique initially I believe |
| 00:10.04 | Gngsk | why? |
| 00:10.11 | Gngsk | no other class race is unique |
| 00:10.19 | Gngsk | seems stupid |
| 00:10.29 | NeoTron | because an undead "working with the light" seemed of |
| 00:10.30 | NeoTron | off |
| 00:10.40 | Megalon | zomg |
| 00:10.42 | NeoTron | it's a flavor thing and that was the initial reason I believe |
| 00:10.44 | NeoTron | it's weird |
| 00:10.48 | Megalon | dragonspine trophy got +40AP |
| 00:10.50 | Megalon | :O |
| 00:10.51 | hyperChipmunk | that's what the shadowpriest is for |
| 00:10.53 | nevcairiel | oh my |
| 00:11.02 | nevcairiel | my rogue friend will hate herself for never taking malchazeen |
| 00:11.10 | nevcairiel | because she had the gladiator ones |
| 00:11.16 | Gngsk | not only is it weird, it's screwed up balancing |
| 00:11.26 | NeoTron | I don't disagree |
| 00:11.31 | NeoTron | I played a NE priest not knowing better |
| 00:11.48 | NeoTron | basically not knowing the importance of fear ward OR expecting to raid at all (based on what I heard about EQ-type raiding) |
| 00:11.49 | kebinusan | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/upgraded-epic-items/ |
| 00:11.55 | kebinusan | has screenies |
| 00:11.57 | Gngsk | I played a dwarf priest knowing very very well |
| 00:12.02 | NeoTron | so I fucked myself badly pickin NE for shadowmeld (which I did enjoy a lot as a priest) |
| 00:12.49 | Kilroo | Any new addon releases anyone would particularly recommend I look into for a mid-40's rogue? |
| 00:13.15 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34756 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoadOnDemand: Hide empty zone menus. |
| 00:13.34 | nevcairiel | omg the new lightfathom scepter |
| 00:14.38 | vhaarr | Hah, I never noticed the Innkeeper in Stormspire is actually called "Eyonix". |
| 00:14.49 | Gngsk | Kilroo, pickpocket macro, locksmith and crowbar |
| 00:15.27 | theoddone33 | oh man |
| 00:15.31 | theoddone33 | pickpocket macro is pure awesome |
| 00:15.49 | Kilroo | Gngsk: Thank you. How is a macro an addon exactly, and are all of those on the Wowace wiki? |
| 00:15.55 | NeoTron | where does that drop nevcairiel ? |
| 00:16.11 | Gngsk | the macro feeds the addons |
| 00:16.23 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: vashj |
| 00:16.26 | NeoTron | ah right |
| 00:16.30 | NeoTron | just found that out via wowhead |
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| 00:16.33 | Gngsk | /cast pick pocket; /stopcasting; /cast ambush (or cheap shot) |
| 00:16.52 | Gngsk | that will provide you with tons of lockboxes, which you can open with lockbox and crowbar |
| 00:16.58 | Gngsk | yes, you can find both addons on the ace svn |
| 00:17.17 | theoddone33 | I'd recommend hemlock too |
| 00:17.24 | theoddone33 | for poison buying |
| 00:17.28 | theoddone33 | it's decent enough |
| 00:17.46 | Kilroo | I think I have something I was going to try for poison buying already. |
| 00:17.47 | vhaarr | That's not a crow bar. |
| 00:17.52 | vhaarr | THIS is a crow bar: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/CrowBar/. |
| 00:17.55 | Kilroo | May have been hemlock or atropine. |
| 00:18.15 | theoddone33 | I need to try atropine |
| 00:18.21 | Gngsk | oApplication is hot |
| 00:18.25 | NightHawkTheSane | "I see you've played knifey spoony before!" |
| 00:18.54 | vhaarr | lol |
| 00:19.25 | Kilroo | So...ok, two things. First, sounds like you're saying Lockbox and Crowbar are on the SVN where I can get them, but not on the wiki where I can find out I want to? And...how the heck does that macro work? I don't follow. |
| 00:19.42 | theoddone33 | it pickpockets everytime you cheapshot a mob |
| 00:19.49 | Gngsk | or ambush |
| 00:20.03 | Gngsk | whichever you prefer, or both |
| 00:20.12 | theoddone33 | it's pretty much 1.5x the cash, plus never having to buy regeants for poison or blind |
| 00:20.47 | theoddone33 | yeah or sap |
| 00:20.51 | theoddone33 | or any opener I believe |
| 00:20.57 | Gngsk | yah |
| 00:21.16 | Gngsk | wonder if it could be added to mecaire's macrotexter |
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| 00:21.41 | Kilroo | ...So...for someone who habitually sneaks up and pickpockets people anyhow...does it do anything besides maybe save me some clicking and time? That's the part that's confusing me I think... |
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| 00:22.10 | evulhotdog | hi? |
| 00:22.15 | undu | hi! |
| 00:22.21 | evulhotdog | i r need help... |
| 00:22.27 | undu | i r see... |
| 00:22.34 | Kilroo | It's an i. |
| 00:22.37 | evulhotdog | XD |
| 00:22.42 | Kilroo | That's why it looks odd. :-) |
| 00:22.49 | Gngsk | Killmore, yeah it saves you a keystroke...it'll take you a while to get used to. Then you'll wonder how you played without it. |
| 00:23.17 | Kilroo | Wait. |
| 00:23.28 | Kilroo | How's what you pickedpocket get into your inventory? |
| 00:23.34 | theoddone33 | it's a bit better for those of us who forget to pickpocket occasionally |
| 00:23.35 | Gngsk | autoloot |
| 00:23.39 | Kilroo | Ah. |
| 00:23.39 | theoddone33 | you have to turn on autoloot for it to work |
| 00:23.39 | evulhotdog | hey i need help, i want to make an addon (without ace or with) me and a buddy have an idea he knows VB and a bit of C++, we need help with getting started...anybody wanna help? |
| 00:23.52 | ulic | CrowBar and LockSmith's code looks very similar, any advantage one over the other? |
| 00:24.05 | Gngsk | one unlocks, the other opens |
| 00:24.17 | vhaarr | evulhotdog: Just ask (tm). |
| 00:24.18 | ulic | ah, gotcha |
| 00:24.31 | vhaarr | evulhotdog: http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 00:25.06 | Gngsk | read PIL! |
| 00:25.23 | Kilroo | What, do they do, just unlock/open (respectively) everything you have that needs it? |
| 00:25.23 | Kilroo | I seem to be sprouting superfluous commas. |
| 00:25.23 | evulhotdog | tem? |
| 00:25.26 | vhaarr | Gngsk: If it's not linked from the tutorial, please add it ^^ |
| 00:25.32 | Tem | hmm? |
| 00:26.04 | evulhotdog | why is a fuction in the xml returning a nil value when there is code in the lua? |
| 00:26.08 | Chompers | holy balls |
| 00:26.17 | Chompers | despair is better than my lionheart blade |
| 00:27.33 | aztecs|Awaaa | What mod is it that adds the stats within brackets and at bottom of tooltip on the images in http://www.worldofraids.com/news/upgraded-epic-items/ ? |
| 00:27.59 | theoddone33 | there's a couple there |
| 00:28.06 | theoddone33 | one is itemlevel I think, another is ratingbuster |
| 00:28.49 | Amadeo | I think RatingBuster can display item levels |
| 00:28.51 | Megalon | most screenshots are with ratingbuster |
| 00:28.58 | theoddone33 | ah, yeah |
| 00:29.06 | theoddone33 | just ratingbuster then |
| 00:29.22 | aztecs|Awaaa | thanks |
| 00:30.44 | Boubouille | added the T5 armor on the post |
| 00:30.57 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34757 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.lua: |
| 00:30.57 | CIA-23 | FuBar_FactionsFu |
| 00:30.57 | CIA-23 | - By default inactive factions are displayed collapsed. As a side effect, they are also collapsed when viewed in the character frame |
| 00:31.26 | sylvanaar | seriously that has bugged me for so long |
| 00:33.26 | sbu | phew |
| 00:33.33 | sbu | shaman t4 gloves are nice |
| 00:33.41 | sbu | errr |
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| 00:33.56 | sbu | nvm, forget that 'gloves' part |
| 00:34.25 | theoddone33 | lame, I found a rare mob I want to kill for something, but he's stuck evading |
| 00:35.06 | kergoth | :( |
| 00:35.07 | hyperChipmunk | which? |
| 00:35.14 | theoddone33 | lord darkscythe in epl |
| 00:35.18 | hyperChipmunk | probably someone was kiting and just lost agro |
| 00:35.21 | theoddone33 | drops a nice sword that my pally could use |
| 00:35.23 | hyperChipmunk | give it a minute to reset |
| 00:35.28 | hyperChipmunk | they take awhile usually |
| 00:35.30 | theoddone33 | naw he's stuck inside a staircase |
| 00:36.06 | NeoTron | hrm. spellstrike is clearly better for dps than voidheart (buffed) |
| 00:36.33 | evulhotdog | deff |
| 00:36.48 | theoddone33 | I wonder if a GM would reset him |
| 00:36.51 | NeoTron | but of course less ont he stats.. |
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| 00:37.46 | NeoTron | however tier 5 is CLEARLY better than spellstrike |
| 00:38.45 | NeoTron | and in fact I'd use curroptor gear over shadoweave too |
| 00:39.15 | NeoTron | bit less spell dmg but nice spellhit and better stats |
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| 00:41.04 | sbu | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/upgraded-epic-items/MCchest.jpg - ohnoes.... |
| 00:41.06 | sbu | +11 heal |
| 00:41.42 | NeoTron | so they buffed crafted gear some too eh? |
| 00:42.21 | _neuron_ | hope they keep tweaking tbh... passed the gorehowl on my warrior multiple times, so paladins etc can use it as farming weapons, now it has higher maxdmg than my mooncleaver |
| 00:42.54 | Amadeo | even the new Mooncleaver? |
| 00:42.57 | sbu | NeoTron: yep :/ |
| 00:43.16 | _neuron_ | Amadeo, is there a new mooncleaver? :P, cuz I haven't seen that yet. |
| 00:43.22 | NeoTron | sbu: why :/? It's a good thing :) |
| 00:43.29 | sbu | nope :p |
| 00:43.33 | NeoTron | _neuron_: our paladin that got gorehowl plan to go dps spec in 2.1.. |
| 00:43.46 | _neuron_ | NeoTron, heh, our paladins arnt quite that deluded |
| 00:43.49 | Amadeo | _neuron_: All the blacksmithing items were upgraded on PTR, iirc |
| 00:44.01 | _neuron_ | one of em is picking up +spelldmg gear to go holy shockadin for fun in 2.1 though ;) |
| 00:44.09 | _neuron_ | Amadeo, hm, gonna have to look around for that |
| 00:45.19 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34758 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: BigWigs: Proximity: Don't error if no module is active when closing the proximity display. |
| 00:46.30 | _neuron_ | Amadeo, ... they nerfed it |
| 00:46.43 | _neuron_ | very minor nerf, but quite a big buff on the karazhan drops |
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| 00:47.02 | vhaarr | Boubouille: What do you need on EU PTR? |
| 00:49.36 | Amadeo | _neuron_: That's weird..bleh |
| 00:50.44 | Amadeo | I'm guessing the next Arena rewards will be better than everything |
| 00:51.11 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 00:51.12 | _neuron_ | I dont get the "balacing" tbh, they are just juggeling stats around on everything |
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| 00:51.54 | Owner | Hey uh, can someone help me with a problem? |
| 00:52.00 | Amadeo | Buffing instance drops will just screw the game up again |
| 00:52.14 | PEacekid | With Ace2? |
| 00:52.32 | _neuron_ | Amadeo, yeah, they are not tweaking a few things, they are reworking everything |
| 00:52.34 | vhaarr | PEacekid: Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 00:53.04 | ulic | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/upgraded-epic-items/ring_of_endless_coils.jpg anyone know what that stats addon at the bottem is? |
| 00:53.17 | kebinusan | RatingBuster? |
| 00:53.18 | PEacekid | Ok well, whenever I set a macro button onto my actionbars, it says that I attempted to use something down a tainted execution path |
| 00:53.29 | PEacekid | It says the only mod thats causing this problem is Ace2 |
| 00:53.35 | theoddone33 | hm is that ratingbuster? that's newer than my version if so |
| 00:53.35 | kebinusan | yeah thats ratingbuster ulic |
| 00:53.55 | ulic | cool, thanks |
| 00:54.58 | ckknight | PEacekid: basically, the taint system isn't the best at placing blame. it's not really Ace2's fault, but an addon that uses it |
| 00:55.19 | Mikma | it's Ace2 fault! |
| 00:55.34 | PEacekid | Ok I actually saw this on the wowace/ace 2 site |
| 00:55.39 | PEacekid | It said someone had the same problem |
| 00:55.43 | PEacekid | with Bartender3 |
| 00:55.47 | PEacekid | my problem is with Bongos |
| 00:56.06 | PEacekid | So its Bongos and Bartender3's fault? |
| 00:56.36 | vhaarr | It could be Bongos, I have not tried it, but macros work fine in Bartender3 for me. |
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| 00:57.01 | PEacekid | Hmm |
| 00:57.04 | PEacekid | I guess I'll try Bartender |
| 00:57.06 | PEacekid | or update bongos |
| 00:57.12 | vhaarr | PEacekid: Basically you need to just disable your addons until it works, there's no way to tell which addon does it. |
| 00:57.33 | PEacekid | I use roughly 50-60 addons |
| 00:57.37 | PEacekid | oh well |
| 00:57.38 | vhaarr | PEacekid: Do a binary search, 50% of your addons each time, and you'll find it pretty fast. |
| 00:58.03 | ckknight | log(60)/log(2) vs. 60 is a big difference |
| 00:58.03 | PEacekid | So check half off, see if it works, then the other half |
| 00:58.06 | PEacekid | and so on? |
| 00:58.19 | ckknight | yes, PEacekid |
| 00:58.29 | PEacekid | Ok, cool |
| 00:58.32 | PEacekid | Oh and ckk |
| 00:58.33 | ckknight | it should take about 6 iterations, PEacekid |
| 00:58.35 | PEacekid | nice job with Pitbull |
| 00:58.39 | PEacekid | you did \do that, right |
| 00:58.40 | ckknight | thanks |
| 00:58.46 | ckknight | right |
| 00:58.58 | PEacekid | Just a question though - is the target and player frames supposed to be misscaled? |
| 00:59.04 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34759 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Zone: add french 'The Eye' |
| 00:59.13 | PEacekid | The Target frame is slightly bigger in scale |
| 00:59.22 | PEacekid | even though theyre all the same in height/width and such |
| 00:59.22 | ckknight | you can change the size. |
| 00:59.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+o hyperChipmunk] by ChanServ |
| 00:59.32 | ckknight | there's a scale option |
| 00:59.46 | Hellis | hey guys, just a quick question is it or is it not possible to respond to a specific string within a whisper? |
| 00:59.54 | PEacekid | Yeah, but by default, I'm just saying even though the scale/width/height is the same for both, but the target frame is still bigger |
| 01:00.01 | ckknight | Hellis: it is |
| 01:00.11 | ckknight | PEacekid: I don't believe you |
| 01:00.29 | PEacekid | I'll try and update then check again |
| 01:00.39 | PEacekid | Because thats what happened with my lasttime |
| 01:02.06 | theoddone33 | sweet the GM reset the mob for me, but he didn't drop the 50% drop rate blue I wanted :( heh |
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| 01:02.24 | PEacekid | And I can't find Pitbull on Wowace anymore |
| 01:02.48 | ckknight | false. |
| 01:03.31 | PEacekid | Oh, capitilization |
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| 01:08.17 | Kirkburn | Hey, ckknight, quick question - is it possible to do sparks for pets? |
| 01:08.45 | ckknight | possible |
| 01:08.53 | ckknight | you do it :-P |
| 01:08.57 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 01:09.02 | PEacekid | Oh and thanks, hope Pitbull becomes about 50x better than AGUF, later |
| 01:09.04 | Kirkburn | no u |
| 01:09.06 | nymbia | why would you need a spark for a pet |
| 01:09.31 | Kirkburn | It already is like 49x better ... \o/ |
| 01:09.47 | Kirkburn | nymbia, cause some people manually activate skills |
| 01:10.02 | Kirkburn | Plus they want to know when to send a pet in |
| 01:10.17 | hyperChipmunk | need some help from someone familiar with doing dewdrop aceoptions tables... |
| 01:10.20 | nymbia | but what would you be timing...? |
| 01:10.27 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/24094 |
| 01:10.28 | Kirkburn | I was watching my druid housemate earlier in cat form - seriously useful, that spark |
| 01:10.37 | Kirkburn | nymbia, skills! |
| 01:10.38 | hyperChipmunk | how come the first func doesn't do anything? |
| 01:11.02 | nymbia | Kirkburn: ...k.. so how long would the timer be? |
| 01:11.22 | theoddone33 | same as rogue/caster I'd think? |
| 01:11.29 | Kirkburn | I reckon so |
| 01:11.31 | theoddone33 | dunno how pet energy works because I'm not cool enough |
| 01:11.41 | nymbia | rogue is once a tick |
| 01:11.42 | theoddone33 | for warlock pets I could see 5sr on them being useful |
| 01:11.46 | nymbia | caster is the 5 second rule |
| 01:11.46 | hyperChipmunk | bonus question: why do the metatables go bye-bye after reloadL |
| 01:12.04 | Kirkburn | Uses energy rules afaik |
| 01:12.27 | Kirkburn | So I think it's the same as rogues - not certain though |
| 01:12.42 | nymbia | i assume you mean hunter pets, then.. |
| 01:12.44 | hyperChipmunk | everybody shut up about rogues; answer meh questions if you value your lives |
| 01:12.50 | Kirkburn | nymbia, ah, er, yeah |
| 01:12.53 | Kirkburn | Did I not say? :/ |
| 01:13.07 | Kirkburn | Don't care for warlock pets :P |
| 01:13.51 | hyperChipmunk | pets, too |
| 01:13.54 | hyperChipmunk | i will destroy you |
| 01:14.15 | kergoth | Kirkburn: yes, druid in cat form energy tick is exactly the same as rogue |
| 01:14.18 | Kirkburn | Let's talk about pets, baby |
| 01:14.24 | Kirkburn | Let's talk about you and me |
| 01:14.37 | hyperChipmunk | /doom Kirkburn |
| 01:14.46 | Kirkburn | Let's talk about all the good things and the bad things that may be (?) |
| 01:15.16 | Kirkburn | oh em gee, /me is doomed |
| 01:15.35 | hyperChipmunk | /kb Kirkburn |
| 01:19.22 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/bmasrulesui.png =) |
| 01:20.59 | nymbia | nice |
| 01:21.52 | hyperChipmunk | the only problems left are that the "Item Type: Recipe - Tailoring" turns into "table:00AF9857" after reload, and clicking non-leaf categories isn't working |
| 01:23.23 | hyperChipmunk | both problems are somewhere in that code chunk i pasted, but i've been fiddling at it for 2h now and am still stumped >8\ |
| 01:23.30 | Tain | Save the Item Type, save the world. |
| 01:24.58 | hyperChipmunk | thanks for that massively useful solution, Tain |
| 01:25.28 | Megalon | *schwing* |
| 01:26.37 | hyperChipmunk | the function at line 13 isn't working when the type is group |
| 01:27.28 | Tain | I'm helpful like a motherfucker. |
| 01:28.25 | ckknight | this is interesting: http://wowace.com/wiki/PitBull/Wish_List#Dogtag_for_soulstone_or_divine_intervention |
| 01:28.43 | ckknight | and doable |
| 01:28.53 | NightHawkTheSane | that'd be hot. |
| 01:28.57 | sbu | druid forms are nice ckknight :) |
| 01:29.05 | ckknight | :-) |
| 01:29.08 | NightHawkTheSane | tying that into statusgone would be hotter, as well |
| 01:29.10 | ckknight | anyone want to help me? |
| 01:29.14 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: that was the plan |
| 01:29.26 | ckknight | I need the textures for Soulstone and Divine Intervention. |
| 01:29.27 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: you help me and i'll help you |
| 01:30.05 | ckknight | btw, I'm getting rid of the Status tag. |
| 01:30.06 | ckknight | it's pointless |
| 01:30.41 | ckknight | it's just StatusGone + combat + resting |
| 01:31.03 | hyperChipmunk | Spell_Shadow_Soulgem? |
| 01:31.12 | ckknight | could be right |
| 01:31.15 | ckknight | can you confirm that, though? |
| 01:31.19 | hyperChipmunk | Spell_Holy_DivineIntervention |
| 01:31.24 | ckknight | cool |
| 01:31.37 | kebinusan | grid needs an option to display UA as highest priority debuff |
| 01:31.38 | pastamancer | ckknight: is DogTag too cool for SEEA? |
| 01:31.44 | kebinusan | so you dont dispel by accident :-) |
| 01:31.48 | theoddone33 | don't forget anhk/reincarnate |
| 01:31.49 | hyperChipmunk | i don't know that those are the actual ones, but those textures exist |
| 01:31.51 | pastamancer | kebinusan: you can hide it |
| 01:31.53 | theoddone33 | I such at spelling |
| 01:32.03 | theoddone33 | don't understand the DI thing, though, it's not a resurrect |
| 01:32.08 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34760 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 01:32.08 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - removed Status tag. |
| 01:32.08 | CIA-23 | - renamed StatusGone to Status. |
| 01:32.08 | CIA-23 | - made StatusGone an alias to Status, but consider it deprecated. |
| 01:32.12 | ckknight | pastamancer: sadly, yes. |
| 01:32.22 | ckknight | pastamancer: I don't want too many dependencies |
| 01:32.23 | hyperChipmunk | ok |
| 01:32.27 | ckknight | and I don't think it's necessary anyway |
| 01:32.29 | hyperChipmunk | DI is Spell_Nature_TimeStop |
| 01:32.42 | pastamancer | checking textures is iffy |
| 01:33.16 | hyperChipmunk | and soulstone is as i said |
| 01:33.23 | hyperChipmunk | Spell_Shadow_SoulGem |
| 01:33.58 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34761 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull - Layouts/ABF - changed StatusGone references to Status |
| 01:34.18 | ckknight | pastamancer: I don't want to deal with the localized names, though :-P |
| 01:34.21 | kergoth | health isnt updating on the pitbull target frame here |
| 01:34.26 | kergoth | says he's at 80% until he's dead |
| 01:34.27 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:34.32 | ckknight | odd |
| 01:34.50 | nymbia | no errors? |
| 01:34.53 | kergoth | ah, i'm lagging badly, probably that, network issue |
| 01:34.57 | hyperChipmunk | Spell_Nature_Reincarnation for ankh |
| 01:35.07 | kebinusan | pastamancer: but basically if you have two magic debuffs, showing the UA icon would be prefered |
| 01:35.11 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: would that appear as a buff? |
| 01:35.14 | kergoth | wait.. |
| 01:35.22 | hyperChipmunk | i don't think so |
| 01:35.23 | kergoth | its showing he damage i'm inflicting on the combat text on the target frame |
| 01:35.26 | kergoth | just isnt updating anything else |
| 01:35.27 | kergoth | weird |
| 01:35.28 | hyperChipmunk | but i've never raided with a shaman |
| 01:35.39 | ckknight | okay, question |
| 01:35.46 | ckknight | does it show the soulstone on the dead unit as a buff? |
| 01:35.51 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 01:35.56 | ckknight | and DI? |
| 01:35.59 | nymbia | yes |
| 01:36.01 | hyperChipmunk | not dead =) |
| 01:36.05 | ckknight | not dead? |
| 01:36.07 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
| 01:36.11 | nymbia | you |
| 01:36.12 | hyperChipmunk | if you're DIed, you're not dead |
| 01:36.12 | ckknight | I asked on the dead unit. |
| 01:36.21 | ckknight | I'm confused. |
| 01:36.22 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's why i didn't answer yes |
| 01:36.29 | hyperChipmunk | di makes you invincible |
| 01:36.31 | Thorgard | Any Shamans in the house? |
| 01:36.36 | theoddone33 | you can't use DI when dead |
| 01:36.37 | hyperChipmunk | and deagro's you |
| 01:36.41 | ckknight | okay, so I'm just gonna check for soulstone, then |
| 01:36.43 | pastamancer | kebinusan: so set it up specifically |
| 01:36.50 | hyperChipmunk | if DI is on, the person isn't dead |
| 01:36.51 | kebinusan | hmm, you can do that? |
| 01:37.11 | nymbia | yeah soulstone's the only really important one |
| 01:37.15 | pastamancer | kebinusan: Grid -> Status -> Aura- > Add debuff |
| 01:37.25 | kebinusan | ah neato |
| 01:37.28 | nymbia | if you're looking at someone who's DI'd and you can't tell they're DI'd |
| 01:37.33 | nymbia | you've got bigger issues |
| 01:37.36 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 01:37.58 | theoddone33 | but reincarnate would be hard to tell on another person |
| 01:38.08 | theoddone33 | or impossible |
| 01:38.15 | hyperChipmunk | not without comm |
| 01:39.24 | sbu | OMG |
| 01:39.28 | sbu | they changed meta gem |
| 01:39.34 | sbu | (restore mana on spellcast thing) |
| 01:39.45 | sbu | 2 of every socket - instead of 5 |
| 01:39.54 | sbu | <3 finally i can use it ;) |
| 01:40.39 | kebinusan | pastamancer: any quick hint at how Id bind or macro switchign between layouts |
| 01:41.09 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34762 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - for the Status tag, if the unit's dead, check for the soulstone buff. if it exists, show "Soulstone" instead of "Dead". Needs testing. |
| 01:41.25 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: nice, now you get to help me |
| 01:41.29 | ckknight | ? |
| 01:41.36 | ckknight | k... |
| 01:41.41 | pastamancer | kebinusan: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Grid/FAQ |
| 01:41.42 | hyperChipmunk | scroll up to just above where you started talking |
| 01:41.56 | ckknight | how long ago? |
| 01:42.25 | hyperChipmunk | 22mins |
| 01:42.37 | pastamancer | kebinusan: hmm, that macro is a bit out of date |
| 01:42.45 | ckknight | k... |
| 01:42.48 | ckknight | what about it? |
| 01:42.58 | pastamancer | it should work though |
| 01:43.03 | hyperChipmunk | the only problems left are that the "Item Type: Recipe - Tailoring" turns into "table:00AF9857" after reload, and clicking non-leaf categories isn't working |
| 01:43.12 | nymbia | aww i liked statusgone |
| 01:43.20 | ckknight | nymbia: it just got renamed |
| 01:43.28 | hyperChipmunk | the function at line 13 isn't working when the type is group |
| 01:43.30 | nymbia | but it shows combat :( |
| 01:43.32 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/bmasrulesui.png =) |
| 01:43.34 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: line 13 of what? |
| 01:43.41 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/24094 |
| 01:43.45 | ckknight | nymbia: nope. |
| 01:43.51 | nymbia | oh cool :) |
| 01:43.59 | nymbia | apologies ckknight ;) |
| 01:44.03 | sbu | errrrrrrr NO |
| 01:44.10 | ckknight | nymbia: I removed Status, then renamed StatusGone to Status. |
| 01:44.15 | sbu | engineering goggles now require primal nether |
| 01:44.16 | nymbia | neat |
| 01:44.36 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 01:44.38 | nymbia | a single one |
| 01:44.38 | hyperChipmunk | nooooooooo |
| 01:44.39 | nymbia | whiner ;) |
| 01:44.45 | hyperChipmunk | no that's not fair =\ |
| 01:44.53 | sbu | 15 min ago didnt take it |
| 01:44.56 | hyperChipmunk | i have all the mats ready =( |
| 01:45.11 | hyperChipmunk | but i'll never see a primal nether = |
| 01:45.12 | sbu | and some other guy took it "only if really nobody needs it" |
| 01:45.12 | hyperChipmunk | =\ |
| 01:45.25 | sbu | mehhh |
| 01:45.34 | sbu | should read while playing :/ |
| 01:45.35 | hyperChipmunk | i run instances with only myself, my buddy, and my girlfriend =\ |
| 01:45.45 | sbu | heh :o |
| 01:46.08 | hyperChipmunk | if i could get primal nether, i wouldn't very well need the engineering helm, now, would i? >8\ |
| 01:46.30 | nymbia | sure you would |
| 01:46.42 | sbu | ofc you would |
| 01:46.56 | sbu | its >t4 (priest) |
| 01:47.03 | sbu | and t4 > heroic |
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| 01:47.15 | hyperChipmunk | not even close for survival hunter |
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| 01:47.20 | nymbia | i probably had seen 20 nethers before getting a helm that was better than that thing |
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| 01:51.05 | hyperChipmunk | please tell me the gun still is okay |
| 01:51.42 | Tain | The gun didn't know I was loaded. |
| 01:52.57 | ckknight | I have a final in an hour... |
| 01:53.12 | ckknight | not sure what to do till then |
| 01:53.33 | sbu | hyperChipmunk: ok as in you dont need primal nether? |
| 01:54.40 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 01:54.50 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: take a look at that pastey for me? |
| 01:56.44 | hyperChipmunk | i've been banging my head up against it for a few hours and i'm not making any progress =\ |
| 01:58.21 | ckknight | pastey? |
| 01:58.30 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/24094 |
| 01:58.45 | ckknight | line 13's messing up? |
| 01:59.34 | hyperChipmunk | it's not being called for the entries where type gets evaluated to group |
| 01:59.49 | CIA-23 | 03bam * r34763 10ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0.lua: |
| 01:59.49 | CIA-23 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 01:59.49 | CIA-23 | - Price updates |
| 02:00.07 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: well, clearly. |
| 02:00.13 | ckknight | why would it be run for group? |
| 02:00.14 | hyperChipmunk | not clearly! |
| 02:00.22 | ckknight | group doesn't have a func associated with it |
| 02:00.26 | hyperChipmunk | why shouldn't it? |
| 02:00.32 | ckknight | it's not in the docs anywhere |
| 02:00.37 | ckknight | nor would it be |
| 02:00.41 | ckknight | there's no real reason for it to be |
| 02:00.44 | ckknight | that's not what groups are for |
| 02:00.50 | ckknight | groups are not executable buttons |
| 02:01.08 | CIA-23 | 03bam 07dataminer * r34764 10ItemPrice-1.0/ (getlatest.lua items.csv wowhead.lua): |
| 02:01.08 | CIA-23 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 02:01.08 | CIA-23 | - Using wowhead's search feature |
| 02:01.08 | CIA-23 | - No more allakhazam... don't trust their data |
| 02:02.18 | hyperChipmunk | that would explain why nobody ever puts in default behavior for commands with subcommands, certainly |
| 02:02.33 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: it might be better to make that func part just an argument within the group |
| 02:02.36 | hyperChipmunk | but i don't see a reason not to allow it |
| 02:02.54 | ckknight | because it's crazy and doesn't fit into all schemas |
| 02:03.01 | ckknight | when would it be run? |
| 02:03.43 | hyperChipmunk | trying to think of one of the times where i expected it; it's happened a few times in the past |
| 02:03.51 | hyperChipmunk | not to mention the usage i have there |
| 02:03.56 | hyperChipmunk | it's teh same for PT sets |
| 02:04.14 | hyperChipmunk | sometimes you want to select all the suboptions |
| 02:04.27 | ckknight | so there could be an option at the top of the group "Select all" |
| 02:04.51 | hyperChipmunk | that's what i'll end up doing |
| 02:05.30 | hyperChipmunk | it's a bit of a disconnect, but it's the best way to do it the way it is now |
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| 02:06.22 | hyperChipmunk | since it's not a select all as much as it is specifying the superset...which already has an entry, but can't be clicked, itself |
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| 02:22.10 | Guillotine | are any of the authors/contributors of Prat currently on? |
| 02:22.43 | Guillotine | having an addon confliction with one of my addons I'd like to work out |
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| 02:25.09 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r34765 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:25.09 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: |
| 02:25.10 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.57 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r34766 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 02:26.57 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:26.57 | CIA-23 | - Fixed koKR translations |
| 02:27.44 | Guillotine | hmm. nm. appears its with Stubby. Though there does still appear to be a mistake in Prat having to do with TasteTheNaimbow |
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| 02:31.32 | ckknight | so my brother is a racist democrat |
| 02:31.52 | ckknight | it's not supposed to turn out that way, but I guess it's possible |
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| 02:33.12 | ckknight | i.e. he doesn't want Obama to be president because he fears the black people will take to the streets |
| 02:33.20 | Chompers | really? |
| 02:33.43 | Tain | I'm hoping for Hillary for President. I think people who've been complaining about how bad Bush is need to see how bad it really can get. |
| 02:33.44 | Chompers | people dont actually believe that stuff do they? |
| 02:34.05 | Chompers | oh god tain, dont even joke about that |
| 02:34.23 | hyperChipmunk | rofl tain |
| 02:34.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: I'd take her -ANY- day over bush. |
| 02:34.56 | ckknight | lol, Tain |
| 02:35.02 | ckknight | we have to redefeat communism |
| 02:35.05 | ckknight | down with Hillary |
| 02:35.12 | ckknight | sadly, I don't see a single Republican I like |
| 02:35.13 | Tain | I think Bush is just an idiot. I think she's conciously evil. |
| 02:35.27 | ckknight | Tain: no, she believes she's doing the right thing |
| 02:35.32 | ckknight | and that makes it all the worse |
| 02:35.33 | Chompers | THINK OF THE CHILDREN |
| 02:35.39 | ckknight | the road to hell is paved on good intentions |
| 02:36.19 | Tain | On the other hand I can't help but be an observer and would be interested to see what happens. |
| 02:36.41 | ckknight | whatever. If I had a choice, it'd be Dr. Ron Paul for President |
| 02:36.57 | Chompers | Jon Stewart :P |
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| 02:37.20 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r34767 10LittleWigs/ (9 files in 4 dirs): |
| 02:37.20 | CIA-23 | LittleWigs: |
| 02:37.20 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.30 | Tain | I'd love to see Colbert in office and having to keep in character. |
| 02:37.38 | Chompers | hahahahh |
| 02:37.49 | Chompers | i'd love that |
| 02:38.10 | ckknight | lol, Tain |
| 02:38.17 | ckknight | Stewart/Colbert 2008 |
| 02:38.20 | FryGuy | littlewigs? |
| 02:38.26 | ckknight | FryGuy: BigWigs for 5-mans |
| 02:38.27 | ulic | oh, lots of translations, yeah! |
| 02:38.34 | FryGuy | :@ |
| 02:38.36 | FryGuy | finally! |
| 02:38.44 | FryGuy | too bad i stopped playing wow :( |
| 02:39.08 | Tain | I'm actually playing City of Heroes again right now. |
| 02:39.17 | FryGuy | well, i started a job |
| 02:39.22 | FryGuy | and i really don't have time for wow anymore |
| 02:39.34 | ulic | if anyone else out there is listening, I'd love some other translations for LW, so far it's pretty much just english and korean. |
| 02:39.37 | FryGuy | plus, my guild broke apart because too many people quit because of the state of raiding in tbc |
| 02:40.02 | FryGuy | and pretty much the only interesting thing is raiding |
| 02:40.25 | Tain | I still think TBC was an improvement with smaller raids. But I know a lot of guilds had issues with it. |
| 02:40.37 | Chompers | my guild fell apart |
| 02:40.54 | Tain | It is a problem because of popularity. You no longer have to have 10-20 people on a raid that you don't like. |
| 02:41.11 | Chompers | i guess the 3/4 of people who did nothing in 40 mans were scared off by the prospect of actually doing something |
| 02:41.14 | Tain | Of course I'm universally adored so I was fine. |
| 02:41.17 | ulic | I think it's great for 5-man instances too, so many more raid-like encounters. |
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| 02:45.53 | FryGuy | it was a problem of the raiding content |
| 02:45.56 | FryGuy | for us at least |
| 02:45.57 | Diao | wait |
| 02:46.20 | FryGuy | i mean, doing all of the heroics + crafted was better gear than tier 5 |
| 02:46.53 | FryGuy | we had to farm so many pots to learn the encounters that were crazily tuned, then farm 2 hours of trash just to be able to attempt the boss for 30 minutes before having to clear trash again |
| 02:47.11 | FryGuy | it's pretty ridiculous when 4 weeks in you're sharding all the loot off of bosses |
| 02:48.00 | Diao | Why shard the loot when you know in advance that Blizzard is planning to buff it in the future? |
| 02:48.00 | FryGuy | out of the 50+ members we had pre-bc (we were 22nd guild to kill kel'thuzzad), only like 10 are left |
| 02:48.08 | FryGuy | they aren't buffing tier 4 |
| 02:48.17 | FryGuy | and most of it's shit even after they buffed it |
| 02:48.27 | Diao | eh |
| 02:48.29 | Tain | It's the typical no win situation for Blizzard. |
| 02:48.35 | Diao | the new buffs to kara loot are amazing |
| 02:48.39 | Diao | they're far better than anything from heroics |
| 02:48.47 | vodrin | <FryGuy> they aren't buffing tier 4 |
| 02:48.48 | vodrin | they are |
| 02:48.53 | FryGuy | well |
| 02:48.55 | vodrin | its gaining 15 iLvls |
| 02:48.56 | FryGuy | it's too little, too late |
| 02:49.02 | FryGuy | is this a new thing? |
| 02:49.06 | FryGuy | as of 2-3 days ago? |
| 02:49.06 | vodrin | today |
| 02:49.07 | NightHawkTheSane | 2.1 patch |
| 02:49.10 | Diao | as of today |
| 02:49.10 | Tain | People bitch about having to have 40 people for a raid, people bitch about having to spend months farming the same stuff to get gear for everyone. |
| 02:49.16 | Diao | http://www.worldofraids.com/ |
| 02:49.24 | Diao | tier 4 is up to 120 actually |
| 02:49.25 | Diao | not 115 :P |
| 02:49.26 | FryGuy | who bitched at having to farm to gear up people? |
| 02:49.33 | vodrin | it was 105 before afaik |
| 02:49.38 | Tain | Then people bitch about only needing 20 for a raid, and bitch about having to shard gear. |
| 02:50.11 | vodrin | ' Many epic items in the game have had their statistical values improved, and more improvements are underway. ' |
| 02:50.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: since we're talking about bitching, you know people are going to bitch about re-introducing the raider/non-raider gear gap :P |
| 02:50.38 | Tain | Yeah but people who complain about that should be ignored in my opinion, NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:50.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: no, not really. its a good point, just not usually articulated well |
| 02:50.55 | Tain | People who raid should get better gear than people who don't. |
| 02:50.55 | FryGuy | well the thing is, pvp gear is better for pvp, pve is better for pve.. at least it should be |
| 02:51.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: thats idiotic. |
| 02:51.03 | Diao | and it is |
| 02:51.10 | Diao | people who raid should get better gear for raiding |
| 02:51.12 | FryGuy | people who spend time should get better gear than people that spend less time |
| 02:51.13 | Tain | It isn't idiotic, it's the way it should be. |
| 02:51.13 | Diao | people who pvp get better gear for pvp |
| 02:51.18 | Diao | that's how it works |
| 02:51.20 | Diao | if you don't raid or pvp |
| 02:51.22 | Diao | then too bad |
| 02:51.25 | Diao | you aren't going to be handed loot |
| 02:51.26 | vodrin | exactly |
| 02:51.31 | FryGuy | loot = time spent |
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| 02:51.40 | vodrin | someone in full arena set.. will walk over someone in kara/ssc gear |
| 02:51.47 | NightHawkTheSane | There's nothing that says you cant have timesink investments for gear that DONT involve pvp or raiding. |
| 02:51.49 | Tain | You might as well just install an ATM in each city and let people charge their credit cards for whatever gear they want. |
| 02:51.56 | vodrin | pve isn't pwnsauce for pvp anymore |
| 02:51.57 | Diao | i go to university for 30 hours a week and work 20 hours a week and i still find time to raid |
| 02:52.12 | Diao | people who say they can't raid are making excuses :P |
| 02:52.17 | FryGuy | i doubt you go to uni for 30 hours/wk |
| 02:52.22 | Diao | i do |
| 02:52.32 | Diao | i'm an eecs major at berkeley |
| 02:52.35 | Diao | our labs are like 5 hours long |
| 02:52.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: what about people who don't -want- to raid. People who'd rather just do small group content. |
| 02:52.38 | Tain | NightHawkTheSane it isn't only about time. It is about working together with other people. Someone who only does solo or small group content can't get the same things as someone who does raid content. |
| 02:52.39 | FryGuy | oh labs :/ |
| 02:52.42 | Tain | And that is the way it should be. |
| 02:53.09 | Diao | well the only way i can see nonraiders getting epic pve loot is some long involved quest line |
| 02:53.11 | FryGuy | i only had 3 classes with labs for my cs/math major |
| 02:53.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: no, thats idiotic, there's no reason solo/small group content cant be equally as challeging as raid content, and reward at least reasonably comparable gear |
| 02:53.17 | vodrin | 2,1 fixes a lot of things currently wrong with endgame imo and i want it asap |
| 02:53.24 | Tain | Of course there's a huge reason for it |
| 02:53.33 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34769 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - optimization |
| 02:53.42 | Tain | There's a major difference between five people working together and fourty people working together. |
| 02:53.48 | vodrin | i'm using a few bits of heroic loot |
| 02:53.53 | vodrin | for killing ssc bosses |
| 02:54.00 | ulic | actually 5man can be quit hard since there isn't room to diversify group make-up as much. |
| 02:54.03 | vodrin | so whats the problem? |
| 02:54.06 | ulic | *quite |
| 02:54.15 | Tain | The five man stuff in TBC is great. It's challenging for once. |
| 02:54.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: only in terms of numbers. There's no reason strategy and logistics cant be equally challenging. |
| 02:54.59 | Tain | Well to use your own words NightHawkTheSane, to suggest that there is no difference between a 5 man instance and a 40 man instance is idiotic. |
| 02:55.05 | Diao | The thing is |
| 02:55.08 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not saying there's no difference. |
| 02:55.21 | Diao | If you have 25 people raiding, wiping 20 or 30 times before downing a boss for loot |
| 02:55.26 | Diao | people are okay with that |
| 02:55.37 | NightHawkTheSane | There is, and they should be handled differently. But that doesn't mean there -can't- be gear equivalence, given enough time on both sides (which may be different) |
| 02:55.39 | Diao | But how many groups do you know that will 5 man the same boss 20 or 30 times to get loot :P |
| 02:55.58 | Diao | I know most pugs will leave after a few attempts |
| 02:56.08 | Tain | Frankly the people who insist that they should get raid loot for not doing large raids are whiny communists who want things handed to them. |
| 02:56.20 | ulic | if you can get 20 in a guild to raid, surely you could get a solid 5 to do 5-mans |
| 02:56.32 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34770 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua: |
| 02:56.33 | CIA-23 | PT3Bar: |
| 02:56.33 | CIA-23 | - Give the popups a higher strata. |
| 02:56.42 | Diao | Indeed |
| 02:56.51 | Diao | but who would want to devote their time to running a 5 man when they could raid |
| 02:56.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: again, you're assuming there's a necessary difference in difficulty between raiding and 5 man, and while that my -exist- it's not a -neccessary implication- of the system. |
| 02:56.58 | Tain | GO BACK TO RUSSIA! |
| 02:57.07 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- socialist, fyi. :P |
| 02:57.08 | Chompers | i've been tanking 5 man heroics for a week or two now |
| 02:57.13 | Diao | It's the people who can't/don't want to raid with 25 that will try to be doing 5 mans |
| 02:57.14 | Chompers | and about 90% of them fail |
| 02:57.20 | Diao | Indeed |
| 02:57.22 | Tain | 5 man heroics kick ass. |
| 02:57.23 | Diao | I never do heroics with pugs |
| 02:57.33 | Diao | I only do it with guild members because pugs always seem to break up once you fail |
| 02:57.36 | Tain | Hard as hell and far more rewarding to do well than a big raid. |
| 02:57.45 | Chompers | no one i know does heroics its all "OMG KARA LEWT" |
| 02:57.46 | Tain | And by rewarding I don't mean equipment gained. |
| 02:57.53 | Diao | lol |
| 02:58.00 | Diao | My guild everyone does heroics because kara loot is about equal |
| 02:58.08 | Chompers | i want 4 more nethers damnit :/ |
| 02:59.34 | FryGuy | the biggest problem with heroics is class stacking |
| 02:59.44 | FryGuy | i mean, when you compare them to 25-man |
| 03:01.02 | Chompers | 4am, bed for me |
| 03:01.03 | FryGuy | 3 plus/minus ~2 vs. 1 +- 1.. |
| 03:01.29 | ckknight | ± |
| 03:02.00 | FryGuy | for instance, the heroic shattered halls quest is almost trivial with warrior/shaman/mage/warlock/rogue |
| 03:02.15 | FryGuy | but replace the shaman with a druid or priest and it's a lot harder |
| 03:02.58 | FryGuy | in a 25-man, having 4 shaman and 1 priest vs. 1 shaman and 4 priest.. doesn't really matter |
| 03:03.15 | ckknight | btw, nobody update DogTag |
| 03:04.24 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34771 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 03:04.24 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - bugfixing. |
| 03:04.24 | CIA-23 | - added method :FixCasing("code"), which'll make all the tags the proper case. |
| 03:04.37 | Funkeh` | why did my ui break? |
| 03:05.41 | ckknight | cause you're an idiot |
| 03:05.51 | Funkeh` | your moms an idiot |
| 03:06.27 | ckknight | no she's not |
| 03:06.39 | Funkeh` | oh really? |
| 03:06.58 | ckknight | alright, time to go to class |
| 03:07.14 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34772 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull - Layouts/ABF - fix casing on setting of custom text. |
| 03:07.25 | Funkeh` | later |
| 03:07.37 | ckknight | have a final :-P |
| 03:08.01 | Funkeh` | gl man |
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| 03:28.30 | Fisker- | wow Bibi`ouF |
| 03:28.41 | Bibi`ouF | wow yourself |
| 03:30.04 | Fisker- | Pretty sick upgrades even for karazhan gear |
| 03:31.49 | Bibi`ouF | yeah |
| 03:32.56 | sylvanaar | did anyone notice the launcher patch |
| 03:33.13 | Fisker- | i never use it |
| 03:33.14 | Fisker- | btw |
| 03:33.23 | Fisker- | sometimes the sounds module goes berserk |
| 03:33.26 | sylvanaar | it just got patched |
| 03:33.28 | CIA-23 | 03mcc * r34773 10ArkInventory/Locale/zhTW.lua: |
| 03:33.28 | CIA-23 | ArkInventory: |
| 03:33.28 | CIA-23 | - update Traditional Chinese translation |
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| 03:35.37 | PEacekid | Me again |
| 03:35.38 | PEacekid | And I was told earlir |
| 03:35.46 | PEacekid | That if something went wrong, doa Binary Check |
| 03:35.50 | PEacekid | I did |
| 03:35.54 | PEacekid | I unchecked everything Ace2 |
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| 03:35.58 | kenlyric | everything got buffed 15 item levels. |
| 03:36.00 | PEacekid | So my macros worked |
| 03:36.10 | PEacekid | Then, I decided to recheck my Ace2 mods one by one |
| 03:36.11 | Fisker- | ClosedBetaHack :o |
| 03:36.20 | PEacekid | after the first one, my macros started having errors again |
| 03:36.21 | Fisker- | PatchVersion This patch upgrades Tools with Launcher from version 1.4.1.83 to version 1.5.0.146. |
| 03:36.21 | PEacekid | therefore |
| 03:36.29 | PEacekid | EVERYTHING ACE2 BLOCKS ME FROM USING MACROS. |
| 03:36.37 | PEacekid | And yes, I updated EVERYTHING. |
| 03:37.03 | Fisker- | It's not nessecarily an ace2 problem |
| 03:37.24 | PEacekid | I just spent several hours trying to get my macros to work |
| 03:37.27 | PEacekid | Ace2 was the problem |
| 03:37.36 | PEacekid | I tried not using it, my macros went fine |
| 03:37.48 | Funkeh` | mine works fine so its not ace2 |
| 03:41.00 | PEacekid | Then why does mine screw up? |
| 03:41.05 | PEacekid | I updated Ace2 and FuBar |
| 03:41.12 | PEacekid | and everything else it said my things messed up |
| 03:41.33 | Funkeh` | are you using standalone libraries |
| 03:43.03 | PEacekid | eh? |
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| 03:46.15 | Funkeh` | Funkeh`>are you using standalone libraries |
| 03:47.34 | Fisker- | The thing is that it is an addon causing breakage |
| 03:47.44 | Fisker- | but Blizzard isn't the best at tracking that stuff |
| 03:48.00 | Fisker- | So because Ace2 is used as a library Ace2 gets blamed for a lot of things |
| 03:49.02 | Fisker- | There's really not much to do other than disabling the addons one by one, or of course disabling Ace2 and rendering all your addons useless :P |
| 03:50.55 | PEacekid | I think Ill wait till jesus fixes this |
| 03:50.59 | PEacekid | and live without macros |
| 03:51.01 | PEacekid | :( |
| 03:51.03 | PEacekid | :'( |
| 03:51.08 | PEacekid | :;(( |
| 03:51.11 | PEacekid | =;( |
| 04:02.10 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 04:02.19 | Fisker- | in theory i can gain FPS by using Vista and WoW |
| 04:02.19 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 04:03.11 | Funkeh` | in theory |
| 04:03.17 | Funkeh` | yet all i hear is vista reduces fps |
| 04:03.58 | kenlyric | it uses moe resources than XP. |
| 04:04.15 | kenlyric | you can probably get even better FPS out of win98 :) |
| 04:04.23 | Fisker- | in practive then Funkeh` |
| 04:04.27 | Fisker- | pratice* |
| 04:04.36 | Fisker- | WoW being the only app that actually runs better on Vista |
| 04:04.57 | Funkeh` | i have shit fps and an awesome card |
| 04:05.07 | Funkeh` | but ive always assumed its because of all the programs running |
| 04:05.08 | Fisker- | learn2memoryandlessaddons |
| 04:05.14 | Cryect | http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6432/gorefiendlootxa9.jpg |
| 04:05.23 | Funkeh` | its not my addons ;) |
| 04:05.25 | kenlyric | card won't really change your FPS if you don't have at least 1.5g of ram. |
| 04:05.32 | Funkeh` | i have 2gig |
| 04:05.40 | kenlyric | the problem is 1.2 gig giant files that must be opened. |
| 04:05.48 | Funkeh` | nice Cryect |
| 04:05.53 | Fisker- | Addons do actually reduce framerate |
| 04:05.57 | Thrae | WoW loves its page files |
| 04:06.19 | Thrae | "I'll just load all data for every zone into memory! Saves time." |
| 04:06.21 | Fisker- | It's easy to notice if you go from a lot of addons to no addons on primetimes in shattrath or org or if |
| 04:06.22 | Bam__ | what's that tooltip at the bottom? |
| 04:06.32 | Fisker- | Blizzard Feedback |
| 04:06.36 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34774 10/tags/BigWigs_RespawnTimers/: BigWigs_RespawnTimers: tag |
| 04:06.38 | Bam__ | ah |
| 04:06.43 | Fisker- | You can send feedback on the item :o |
| 04:06.46 | kenlyric | Fisker-: yeah, but the biggest thing is all those people it has to load. |
| 04:06.52 | Bam__ | can you say it sucks? |
| 04:06.59 | kenlyric | a graphics card isn't going to help at all. Not having to page will. |
| 04:07.03 | Thrae | Fisker-: Depends on what addons. For me, addons are a small fraction of my average computing time, not counting instance loading. |
| 04:07.10 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34775 10BigWigs_RespawnTimers/: BigWigs_RespawnTimers: /bye, see tags |
| 04:07.15 | Fisker- | of course :P |
| 04:07.26 | kenlyric | heh |
| 04:07.28 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Er.. it's not -just- memory, or -just- a video card, or -just- anything. There's no one panancea for fps :P |
| 04:07.41 | Fisker- | i'm getting 4GB memory today :P |
| 04:07.48 | Funkeh` | you wanna lol? |
| 04:07.56 | Funkeh` | the feedback addon is 2nd on most cpu |
| 04:07.59 | Fisker- | So i hope my WoW ain't gonna be using my pagefile that much |
| 04:08.00 | Funkeh` | usually |
| 04:08.04 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: for most people, for wow, it's ram. |
| 04:08.07 | Fisker- | even with other addons? |
| 04:08.08 | Fisker- | :D |
| 04:08.17 | kenlyric | they upgrade their video card and think 1gb should be plenty. |
| 04:08.27 | Funkeh` | i don't have a pagefile |
| 04:08.33 | Funkeh` | no idea if thats the problem :p |
| 04:08.37 | Fisker- | lolwut? |
| 04:08.39 | kenlyric | o.O |
| 04:08.40 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: yeah, which is silly, because, as i said, you cant just upgrade one part and expect it all to work flawlessly ;) |
| 04:08.41 | Thrae | Actually, here's a good test for your system -- adjust terrain distance in Shattarahahaha City |
| 04:08.43 | kenlyric | how much ram? |
| 04:08.48 | Funkeh` | 2gig |
| 04:09.06 | Thrae | Terrain Distance shouldn't have anything to do with RAM except what's on your video card |
| 04:09.28 | Funkeh` | well i got 512 on my card |
| 04:09.30 | Thrae | Unless it's doing a LOT of cache'ing, in which case I don't know what the hell it's doing it for |
| 04:09.34 | kenlyric | terrain distance and quality are all about your video card. objects loaded is all about your ram. |
| 04:09.53 | JoshBorke | also ddr vs sdram :-( |
| 04:09.59 | kenlyric | every want to test it, trying getting your mpq files into about 1000 fragments and see how wow reacts :) |
| 04:10.15 | kenlyric | ok if your computer is running sdram, you have other issues. |
| 04:10.23 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 04:10.44 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src.cgi/1178596833340.jpg <-wtf |
| 04:10.46 | Thrae | Funkeh`: What FPS do you get in Sharatah City? |
| 04:10.56 | kebinusan | So we made progress on magtheridon tonight .. now I just need to find 10 people who can click cubes -_- |
| 04:10.59 | JoshBorke | i get 20 fps in shattrath :-/ |
| 04:11.00 | kenlyric | the first time I had serious issues with the game crapping out during battles, a defrag was awesome. |
| 04:11.01 | Funkeh` | um |
| 04:11.07 | Funkeh` | i dunno 30-40 |
| 04:11.51 | Thrae | kenlyric: I'm not sure on that...are you saying WoW is stupid enough to still load objects you can't -see-? |
| 04:11.57 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34776 10/tags/BigWigs_Timers/: BigWigs_Timers: tagging |
| 04:12.18 | kenlyric | Thrae: not necessarily. |
| 04:12.18 | kebinusan | the new beta of swstats has this evil combatlog thing that chews up memory like rosie odonnell at a buffet |
| 04:12.24 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34777 10BigWigs_Timers/: BigWigs_Timers: /bye, see tags |
| 04:12.26 | kenlyric | But it still has to open the file, and the file is 1.2gig or so. |
| 04:12.53 | kebinusan | first time ever I saw my in game memory at 78mb |
| 04:12.55 | kenlyric | and if it doesn't have the ram, or the file is fragged, it starts churning your machine |
| 04:13.05 | Thrae | kebinusan: Oh, still not using ParserLib? |
| 04:13.21 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34778 10/tags/BigWigs_TabletBars/: BigWigs_TabletBars: tagging |
| 04:13.25 | Funkeh` | Thrae: reckon thats bad? |
| 04:13.44 | Thrae | Which is bad? |
| 04:13.52 | Funkeh` | 30-40 in shatt |
| 04:14.03 | kebinusan | thrae, no, but this new thing sw log or something, is essentially the combat log of your fight and it stores it so you can go back and look at things |
| 04:14.03 | Thrae | With Terrain Distance all the way up, hell no |
| 04:14.17 | Funkeh` | nope, its at medium |
| 04:14.18 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34779 10BigWigs_TabletBars/: BigWigs_TabletBars: /bye, see tags |
| 04:14.57 | Thrae | Oh, then its what I get, and I have 256MB of Video Ram...except I get 10-50 with terrain distance at medium |
| 04:15.23 | Thrae | I have Dual Cards from SLI, but I don't think the RAM from the other card gets used. Only the extra GPU power... |
| 04:15.24 | Funkeh` | i just wonder why i get 10-20 in raids |
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| 04:16.02 | kenlyric | more people to draw. |
| 04:16.10 | Thrae | Funkeh`: Rendering players is the most intensive thing the WoW graphics engine needs to do, probably |
| 04:16.20 | kenlyric | every person is wearing something different. |
| 04:17.07 | Thrae | Funkeh`: They are completely variable, right down to their skin colour, facial features, etc. Most other stuff is partly pre-rendered with semi-blocky models using smooth textures |
| 04:18.36 | kenlyric | if wow used a different method to generate chars, it might not be so intensive. But every object is an image, so even if something is just a different color, it's a different image |
| 04:19.36 | Funkeh` | mm |
| 04:21.27 | Funkeh` | right, im off, cya all later |
| 04:22.07 | kenlyric | I think of all those games that have many more char options, and wonder how their engines keep up. I just assume they must generate based on stats, instead of predrawn images. |
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| 04:31.56 | kebinusan | They should just let players dye their gear, then everyone would be walking around in black, and it'd be super easy on the renderer |
| 04:32.33 | Kilroo | Except for my neon orange rogue... |
| 04:33.32 | kebinusan | lol |
| 04:33.32 | kebinusan | Id go red and white stripes and then we could play where waldo with our boss kill shots |
| 04:34.03 | Kilroo | ...There's a World of Warcraft Rewards Visa card. |
| 04:34.11 | Kilroo | That's just...incredibly wrong. |
| 04:34.21 | NightHawkTheSane | welcome to last week :P |
| 04:34.25 | kebinusan | in game rewards? |
| 04:34.42 | NightHawkTheSane | the reward is play time |
| 04:34.49 | kebinusan | ... |
| 04:34.58 | ilifin | there's a ingame visa card, yet one can't buy any WoW merchandise online, even when advertised |
| 04:35.19 | ilifin | I'm trying to buy a TBC box as it says on wow-europe.com that I can, yet it takes me to the cd key input page :V |
| 04:39.02 | Arrowmaster | i feel so bad using the LFG system right now |
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| 04:45.44 | Arrowmaster | haha friend just soloed the chess event and the shoulders he wanted droped |
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| 04:50.41 | Killmore | omg I hate lurker, but he's f--king down :P |
| 04:51.48 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34780 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.lua: |
| 04:51.48 | CIA-23 | FuBar_FactionsFu |
| 04:51.48 | CIA-23 | - I guess i really didnt take the time understand the code, because i dont think you can collapse a section before it is actually displayed, so i do it then. |
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| 04:53.59 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:54.09 | ckknight | well, after stressing out about my final all day, it took me all of 20 minutes to complete |
| 04:54.11 | ckknight | ...yea |
| 04:54.25 | nymbia | lol |
| 04:55.30 | Thrae | ckknight: That's why I take a combination of Valium, Vicodin, Oxycodine, and Tequila before I did my finals. |
| 04:55.52 | Thrae | I woke up 3 years later. |
| 04:55.57 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:56.03 | ilifin | any in the US that can check their account management page and tell me whether the option to BUY tbc online via blizz is there or not |
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| 05:31.01 | CIA-23 | FuBar_FactionsFu |
| 05:31.01 | CIA-23 | - fixed a nil error |
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| 05:34.50 | Herio | sorry if this isn't news but it looks like tablet up and gone? :O |
| 05:37.29 | nymbia | howso? |
| 05:37.45 | Herio | it's not in the folder |
| 05:38.58 | Herio | "This directory intentionally empty." doesn't help fubar plugin |
| 05:39.14 | nymbia | huh? |
| 05:41.36 | nymbia | er.. the one in StandaloneLibraries? |
| 05:41.44 | Herio | yeah |
| 05:41.51 | nymbia | they're all empty |
| 05:42.13 | Herio | I'm using wau :O? |
| 05:42.47 | nymbia | hm.. maybe a communication failure, try updating again |
| 05:42.53 | Herio | working on it |
| 05:43.03 | Herio | I'm updating everything but the SAL package |
| 05:45.36 | Herio | yeah it's not working :O |
| 05:45.38 | Herio | strange |
| 05:45.52 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1178601947729.jpg <- do want |
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| 05:49.06 | Sole | hai |
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| 05:58.03 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: what was that you added to factionsfu about collapsing inactive factions? |
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| 06:17.19 | kergoth | you konw whatd be kinda cool |
| 06:17.37 | kergoth | a progress bar for your current crafting.. so when i'm making 80 heavy netherweave bandages, i'll know when it'll all be done |
| 06:17.40 | kergoth | not just the current bandage |
| 06:18.35 | hyperChipmunk | that'd be handy |
| 06:19.03 | theoddone33 | and an auto-cuttoff when a skill goes yellow/green/grey |
| 06:21.05 | kergoth | i still want something to watch the cartographer current waypoint, my coordinates, and whether autorun is currently enabled |
| 06:21.18 | kergoth | so that if i pass the spot i'm heading to (distance increasing with autorun on), it beeps at me |
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| 06:27.57 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster yes |
| 06:28.21 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster tricksie code |
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| 06:29.05 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster had two bugs i had to fix |
| 06:34.54 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster why? |
| 06:45.02 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: afaik the inactive factions are collapsed by default in the blizzard ui |
| 06:45.17 | Arrowmaster | always have been for me |
| 06:45.26 | nymbia | yup |
| 06:45.44 | sylvanaar | no |
| 06:45.57 | sylvanaar | they arent |
| 06:46.04 | sylvanaar | and its very annoying |
| 06:47.19 | sylvanaar | this solves both problems |
| 06:48.25 | Arrowmaster | ill have to check without any addons loaded but i dont know of any addon i have that would be collapsing it |
| 06:49.13 | sylvanaar | either way, it works for me now |
| 06:50.38 | Elkano | regarding the amount of requests for FactionsFu to colapse that group I'm pretty sure it isn't by default |
| 06:53.38 | sylvanaar | well, if it breaks anything tell me |
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| 06:56.03 | sylvanaar | does table.insert really not return the index of what it inserts? |
| 06:57.42 | nymbia | why would it? |
| 06:58.26 | FISKER_Q | see you on the other side |
| 06:58.29 | FISKER_Q | finally got my RAM |
| 06:58.36 | FISKER_Q | and now i'm gonna upgrade it |
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| 06:58.39 | FISKER_Q | along with my computer |
| 06:59.01 | Elkano | so since we'll never see you again, nice death |
| 06:59.08 | Elkano | oh... gone already :/ |
| 06:59.29 | sylvanaar | because its good design since well, it doesnt return anything of use anyhow |
| 07:00.41 | sylvanaar | local idx = table.insert(...) always gets you the index |
| 07:02.40 | Elkano | wa... you touched my code :/ |
| 07:03.07 | sylvanaar | touch mine please |
| 07:03.10 | nymbia | sylvanaar: but you either passed it in or it's implied by the size of the table. |
| 07:03.22 | Elkano | and you even used blank instead of tab... |
| 07:03.22 | nymbia | really no reason to use table.insert if you're just sticking something on the end, anyway |
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| 07:03.54 | sylvanaar | Elkano are you serious? want me to put tabs in? |
| 07:04.23 | Elkano | :P |
| 07:05.12 | sylvanaar | nymbia there are some great reasons for it to return the index one of which is that i can to local idx = table.insert(unpack(parms)) |
| 07:05.26 | Elkano | I'll simply revert your changes, that'll fix it, too ;) |
| 07:07.44 | Roartindon | smackdown :P |
| 07:09.03 | krka | local idx, val = unpack(parms); table.insert(idx,val); |
| 07:10.01 | Roartindon | krka: then may as well use table.insert(t, unpack(params)) |
| 07:10.17 | Roartindon | He was trying to get #t implicitly |
| 07:11.58 | krka | wouldn't be too much work to implement your own table.insert i guess |
| 07:12.40 | krka | also, it's stupid that table.insert has different positions for the value, depending on number of arguments |
| 07:13.08 | nymbia | huh? |
| 07:13.20 | Roartindon | ie. table.insert(t, value), or table.insert(t, index, value) |
| 07:13.25 | Roartindon | instead of table.inserT(t, value, index) |
| 07:13.27 | nymbia | the optional third arg is to specify the index where you're putting the data. |
| 07:13.44 | Roartindon | nymbia: sure? I thought it was optional 3rd arg makes the 2nd one the index |
| 07:13.57 | nymbia | uh, lemme se |
| 07:13.58 | nymbia | see |
| 07:14.17 | nymbia | oh yeah |
| 07:14.25 | nymbia | right you are. |
| 07:14.30 | Roartindon | optional 3rd arg being index would be the logical choice :) |
| 07:14.37 | krka | pretty retarded the way it works now :/ |
| 07:14.42 | nymbia | ./shrug |
| 07:15.25 | CIA-23 | 03adirelle * r34782 10BankList/ (BankList.toc localization.lua): |
| 07:15.25 | CIA-23 | BankList: |
| 07:15.25 | CIA-23 | - deDE translation, thanks to Salderia. |
| 07:15.40 | Roartindon | it does make a difference in that you can't specify end-or-position in table in a logical statement... eg: |
| 07:15.57 | Roartindon | table.insert(t, val, atindex and index or nil) |
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| 07:18.20 | theoddone33 | I bet if I hadn't quit playing my main for 2 months I could have a good bit of gladiator gear by now |
| 07:18.24 | theoddone33 | oh well |
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| 07:19.23 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34783 10Prat/Prat.lua: |
| 07:19.23 | CIA-23 | Prat: Added a generic registry for chat hyperlinks, so there will only need to |
| 07:19.23 | CIA-23 | be 1 SetItemRef hook. Added a reload UI link which is defined in prats core. It |
| 07:19.23 | CIA-23 | can be obtained from Prat:GetReloadUILink(Requestor), you can optionally provide |
| 07:19.23 | CIA-23 | the name of what is requesting the reloadui for some later use i guess. |
| 07:22.13 | sylvanaar | yes table.insert has a retarded design i think we can agree on that one |
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| 07:23.51 | sylvanaar | Roartindon can you clickcast off the nameplates? |
| 07:24.00 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: As far as I know, no :( |
| 07:24.06 | sylvanaar | that stinks |
| 07:24.12 | Roartindon | If anyone is willing to help me get it working, I really want to |
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| 07:24.27 | Roartindon | The problem is this: |
| 07:24.40 | sylvanaar | they dont inherit from secure* |
| 07:24.41 | Roartindon | The nameplate frame itself is not a button, it cannot be registered for clicks or tagged for ClickCastFrame |
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| 07:24.51 | Roartindon | If I DO make a secure unit button on top of the frame |
| 07:25.01 | Roartindon | Then it stops being recognised as the "mouseover" |
| 07:25.06 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 07:25.12 | Roartindon | So if I make a clickable button, it no longer has any reference to the unit |
| 07:25.13 | sylvanaar | thats wonderful |
| 07:25.27 | sylvanaar | you just need to bind a unit reference |
| 07:25.29 | Roartindon | So in brief, I've tried, I can't figure it out, I need someone smarter to do it :) |
| 07:25.48 | Roartindon | Which is fine if they're your party member I guess |
| 07:25.55 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 07:25.58 | Roartindon | But then you can't dynamically show/hide during battle |
| 07:26.10 | Roartindon | So if they go out of range, and come back in range (and they'll almost certainly be assigned a different nameplate table) |
| 07:26.14 | Roartindon | Then ... |
| 07:26.29 | sylvanaar | well thats lame |
| 07:26.57 | Roartindon | Pre 2.0, I could have done some wonderful stuff with nameplates :) |
| 07:27.15 | Roartindon | I could even have taken all the nameplates, sorted them according to preferences in a particular place on the screen |
| 07:27.29 | Roartindon | Which would mean that you'd have an active list of 'in range' nameplates, etc. |
| 07:27.50 | Roartindon | but of course, that's probably the kind of thing they're trynig to stop |
| 07:27.58 | Roartindon | it'd be the dps version of squishy |
| 07:28.08 | Roartindon | click on the unit with least HP in battlegrounds (top of hte list), and pick em off |
| 07:28.26 | sylvanaar | o have gotten dynamic assignment of unit working for an action button, but i didnt play with it much |
| 07:28.51 | Roartindon | during battle? |
| 07:28.57 | sylvanaar | i dont know |
| 07:29.01 | Roartindon | I didn't thikn you could update attributes programatically during battle |
| 07:29.09 | Roartindon | Which is when it'd be the most important to do it :) |
| 07:29.11 | sylvanaar | nah, it used macrotext |
| 07:30.08 | Roartindon | It'd be so convenient if the nameplates derived from secureunit |
| 07:30.11 | Roartindon | with unit=mouseover |
| 07:31.18 | Roartindon | That'd solve all of the difficulties I was having with it |
| 07:31.18 | sylvanaar | why cant you assign it unit=mouseover |
| 07:31.35 | Roartindon | Maybe I don't understand it well enouogh |
| 07:31.40 | sylvanaar | or i dont |
| 07:31.56 | Roartindon | but when I tried to do stuff with it, nothing worked |
| 07:32.26 | Roartindon | As I understand it, it needs to be derived from Secure*Button to interpret the attribute stuff properly |
| 07:32.41 | Roartindon | Right now, nameplates have something very different about their mouse handling.. |
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| 07:32.55 | Roartindon | If you ENABLE mouse handling, the nameplates' mouseover and clickability stop |
| 07:33.06 | Roartindon | And only return if you disable it |
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| 07:34.40 | sylvanaar | yeah, but you said that you can put a button on top of them |
| 07:35.12 | Roartindon | If I put a button on top of them |
| 07:35.17 | Roartindon | there's no longer any 'mouseover' unit |
| 07:35.31 | sylvanaar | if you put a button on top of them, will the buttons move with them? |
| 07:35.36 | Roartindon | yes |
| 07:35.41 | Roartindon | But putting the button on top |
| 07:35.49 | Arrowmaster | even if its a securebutton? |
| 07:35.53 | Roartindon | stops the game recognising anything underneath the button in terms of mouseover |
| 07:35.57 | sylvanaar | can you give me a copy of your code that does that |
| 07:36.06 | Roartindon | I'll have to rewrite it |
| 07:36.10 | Roartindon | The funny thing about it |
| 07:36.26 | Roartindon | Is that it's because it's the game code that's moving stuff around |
| 07:36.39 | sylvanaar | its not tainted |
| 07:36.46 | Roartindon | yep |
| 07:36.53 | sylvanaar | which is how it should be |
| 07:37.34 | Roartindon | I'll rewrite the code later so that you can play with it |
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| 07:38.39 | Roartindon | It still doesn't solve the problem that the button itself blocks what the game considers a mouseover unit, and hence unit=mouseover is basically no unit ever |
| 07:39.47 | sylvanaar | that may or may not be a problem, or just a lack of documentation from blizzard |
| 07:40.03 | Roartindon | I'm pretty sure it's expected behavior |
| 07:40.05 | Nargiddley | tried parenting it to the nameplate and setting inherit-unit (or whatever it is) ? |
| 07:40.26 | Roartindon | Nargiddley: Hmmm. no... but I doubt it'll work. I'll give it a shot later |
| 07:40.42 | Roartindon | nameplates internally use something other than unitids obviously |
| 07:40.43 | sylvanaar | right, that was the sort of thing i was goign to try |
| 07:41.11 | Roartindon | If you want to play with it - toss some code in CoreModules/Frame.lua |
| 07:41.42 | sylvanaar | i just dont want to do alot of setup work, if you had a copy of your old code that'd be cool. |
| 07:42.05 | Roartindon | I trashed it all when I couldn't get it working how I wanted >< |
| 07:42.22 | Roartindon | this was ~2-3 weeks ago I think |
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| 07:42.56 | Roartindon | Maybe inappropriately tossed it into the 'unimplementable' category in my head |
| 07:46.48 | Punkie` | oh man oh man at epic upgrades in PTR |
| 07:48.14 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34784 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Uses Prat's ReloadUI links if available, if not nothing changes |
| 07:48.25 | Roartindon | Punkie`: about time :) |
| 07:48.35 | Roartindon | Although I wish I didn't pass on a few items in the past now :) |
| 07:48.41 | Punkie` | yeah |
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| 07:49.08 | Punkie` | but zomg at the malchazeen that never drops for me |
| 07:49.14 | Punkie` | upgrade and a half |
| 07:49.32 | Roartindon | sadly, we've given one to a prot warrior already |
| 07:49.42 | Punkie` | yeah most guilds have |
| 07:50.08 | Aenslaed | all 3 of our warriors have one of those >.< |
| 07:50.08 | Punkie` | I have the mats ready for Deathblow googles next patch too :)# |
| 07:50.22 | Punkie` | All we ever get is that damn mindblade |
| 07:51.07 | Aenslaed | you know whats lame? Guild leader wont let me respec. I'm a feral druid and I want to go resto :/ |
| 07:51.16 | SunTiger | lol |
| 07:51.21 | Aenslaed | things have gone so 180% |
| 07:51.29 | Punkie` | degrees? |
| 07:51.34 | Aenslaed | degrees yes |
| 07:51.41 | Punkie` | but anyway, feral tank is nice |
| 07:51.48 | Aenslaed | yes, but you can't pvp as feral |
| 07:51.48 | Punkie` | feral offtank > warrior offtank |
| 07:51.56 | Punkie` | uhm |
| 07:52.10 | Punkie` | that doesnt explain how most people get their asses handed to them by feral druids :P |
| 07:52.13 | Aenslaed | my arena team has collapsed pretty much cause I can't afford to respec twice a day |
| 07:53.14 | Aenslaed | not in 5v5. A feral druid contributes nothing at the upper brackets. |
| 07:53.31 | Aenslaed | we can't break 2000 rating not because of skill, but cause of classes |
| 07:53.37 | Punkie` | this is true |
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| 07:54.15 | Elkano | sylvanaar, I think I'll revert your code if some test I'm running turn out to be working. then we'll most likely end up with a "remember collapsed" ^^ |
| 07:54.18 | Punkie` | the only use for a feral druid in organised pvp is to do with flags :P |
| 07:54.24 | Aenslaed | not even |
| 07:54.29 | Aenslaed | resto druids are better flag runners |
| 07:54.31 | Aenslaed | by far |
| 07:54.44 | nevcairiel | arena or pvp set bonus ftw |
| 07:54.59 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34785 10Prat/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:54.59 | CIA-23 | Prat: Reimplementation of the presets. Now you supply a copy of your saved |
| 07:54.59 | CIA-23 | variables, cut/paste it into a function and you have a preset. Its less |
| 07:54.59 | CIA-23 | fine-grained than the old method. In order for this to work i have to call |
| 07:54.59 | CIA-23 | ResetDB otherwise defaults are not handled properly. |
| 07:55.03 | Punkie` | probably, but that depends if you have support |
| 07:55.07 | Aenslaed | resto druids can heal themselves while on the move, feral cant. Feral can fight back, but thats not what flag running is unfortunately |
| 07:55.40 | Punkie` | it was totally lame last night |
| 07:55.45 | Aenslaed | NS, swiftmend, hots that tick for more than 300 -_- |
| 07:55.47 | Punkie` | my and a few friends are scryer |
| 07:56.04 | Punkie` | so we went to aldor bank |
| 07:56.15 | Punkie` | and sat on all the bankers |
| 07:56.16 | Elkano | Aenslaed but ferals tend to take a bit more ;) and the flag runner should get a dedicated healer ;) |
| 07:56.23 | theoddone33 | feral have frenzied regen |
| 07:56.25 | theoddone33 | which is annoying |
| 07:56.29 | Punkie` | so people couldn't bank (if they were stupid) |
| 07:56.33 | Aenslaed | thats a base ability theoddone33 |
| 07:56.42 | Punkie` | and then i got banned from my realm IRC channel, wtf! :< |
| 07:56.57 | Elkano | sylvanaar: and I redid your code for now, it will now only collaps once |
| 07:57.12 | sylvanaar | yeah, my code did that at first |
| 07:57.26 | theoddone33 | I need a new realm |
| 07:57.26 | sylvanaar | but it wasnt sufficient |
| 07:57.30 | theoddone33 | unfortunately that means reroll |
| 07:57.42 | Elkano | well, I simply store if I did collapse before and I collaps at the end of a data update |
| 07:58.44 | sylvanaar | does it collapse when you log into the game |
| 07:58.56 | sylvanaar | not reload, but log in for first tim |
| 07:59.04 | Elkano | it did after reload but I'll try login |
| 07:59.13 | Aenslaed | theoddone33: transfer? |
| 07:59.35 | theoddone33 | I would but I'm stuck on a pve server, and the whole reason I need a new realm is for arena |
| 07:59.45 | Aenslaed | you can arena on a pve server... |
| 08:00.00 | theoddone33 | you can, but you're going to have a hard time finding people that take it seriously |
| 08:00.11 | theoddone33 | 2 1900+ teams on my whole realm |
| 08:00.21 | Punkie` | that's a problem with a lot of realms |
| 08:00.28 | Punkie` | finding people who will take it seriously |
| 08:00.49 | Aenslaed | same applies to most realms. One or two servers dominate each battlegroup while the rest feed |
| 08:01.23 | Elkano | sylvanaar, works after login, too |
| 08:01.46 | theoddone33 | yeah my whole thing is being the best at pvp possible, which is stupid for a pve server |
| 08:01.51 | theoddone33 | but I don't think I have the patience to reroll |
| 08:02.14 | Aenslaed | meh, just roll in a 1800-2000 team. Not hard at all to keep rating and you get a fair amount of points per week |
| 08:02.27 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: www.lim.com.au/wow/Frame.lua |
| 08:02.31 | Roartindon | Drop that into Aloft/CoreModules |
| 08:02.34 | Roartindon | And have a play |
| 08:03.01 | CIA-23 | 03elkano * r34786 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.lua: FuBar_FactionsFu: reverted and recoded sylvanaar's changes |
| 08:03.04 | Roartindon | Test it out of combat first, if it works, then I'll bother implementing all of the stuff necessary to make it work more properly |
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| 08:04.30 | Roartindon | if you want to reprogram the unitbutton of your target from within WoW without /rl |
| 08:04.43 | Roartindon | use /script unitButton = Aloft:GetTargetNameplate().unitButton |
| 08:04.48 | Roartindon | and work from there |
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| 08:06.54 | Roartindon | actually, sorry, you probably want to change Frame.lkua to create a SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 08:06.59 | Roartindon | instead of SecureUnitButtonTemplate |
| 08:13.26 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:13.34 | nevcairiel | mornin ammo |
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| 08:15.21 | SunTiger | goede morgen. |
| 08:18.48 | Roartindon | where can I find info on this inherit-unit or whatever was mentioned before? |
| 08:19.38 | Nargiddley | thinking about it you're probably right |
| 08:19.48 | Nargiddley | and theres no unit attribute to inherit |
| 08:20.06 | Nargiddley | MainAssist uses it for its frames |
| 08:20.52 | Nargiddley | just checked |
| 08:20.55 | Nargiddley | its useparent-unit |
| 08:21.00 | Roartindon | ta |
| 08:21.06 | Nargiddley | or any attribute in the place of unit |
| 08:21.09 | Nargiddley | or * for everything |
| 08:21.24 | Roartindon | yeah, it's not working |
| 08:21.29 | Roartindon | there's no unit attribute on frames |
| 08:21.48 | sylvanaar | how can i bypass acedb and write to my saved variables directly without it going behind me and overwriting it |
| 08:23.34 | sylvanaar | to put it another way, how can i tell acedb to reload my saved variables from the table |
| 08:23.58 | nevcairiel | i bet you cannot |
| 08:24.07 | sylvanaar | just nil ace.db.raw? |
| 08:24.08 | nevcairiel | you could try self.db.raw |
| 08:24.10 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 08:24.18 | sylvanaar | er self yeah |
| 08:24.26 | nevcairiel | not niling, but modifying it directly |
| 08:24.34 | sylvanaar | yeah, i have been trying that |
| 08:24.57 | sylvanaar | but its like full of metatable hacks |
| 08:25.14 | ZealotOnAStick | So, I just watched a video of a Warlock soloing heroic Slave Pens. |
| 08:25.26 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: The whole way?! |
| 08:25.27 | [Ammo] | gnomes can't do that :p |
| 08:25.28 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:25.39 | [Ammo] | gnomes can't do the first pull, they can't make the jump due to water :p |
| 08:25.45 | Roartindon | link? |
| 08:25.46 | [Ammo] | at least, it's harder |
| 08:26.30 | nevcairiel | how the hell are you supposed to do the 6 mob pulls? |
| 08:26.37 | rubik_ | that hunter soloing first old hillsbrad boss on heroic screemed 'nerf me' pretty bad too |
| 08:26.50 | rubik_ | screamed* |
| 08:26.50 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: pathing |
| 08:26.56 | ZealotOnAStick | http://files.filefront.com//;7456489;;/ |
| 08:26.59 | [Ammo] | mobs path quite stupidly |
| 08:27.07 | [Ammo] | he uses the pathing the whole instance |
| 08:27.11 | [Ammo] | basically they don't hit him |
| 08:27.21 | [Ammo] | apart from the occasional spell |
| 08:27.22 | nevcairiel | if they hit him once, he is generally dead :p |
| 08:27.26 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: Are you sure that's heroic? |
| 08:27.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh yes. |
| 08:27.42 | ZealotOnAStick | He loots the badges of justice. |
| 08:28.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Same technique would work heroic or non either way. |
| 08:28.18 | Roartindon | full run? |
| 08:28.22 | ZealotOnAStick | And if it wasn't heroic, the mobs wouldn't take so long to die. |
| 08:28.22 | sylvanaar | nice, my saved vars were eradicated |
| 08:28.25 | [Ammo] | full run yes roartindon |
| 08:28.40 | Roartindon | .... that's insane :) |
| 08:28.46 | nevcairiel | whats with the guards with their reflect shield? those are going to be fun :P |
| 08:28.53 | [Ammo] | they just take longer |
| 08:28.53 | [Ammo] | remember |
| 08:28.56 | [Ammo] | dots tick in the shield |
| 08:29.16 | ZealotOnAStick | There's a thread on US Warlock forums where some guy (who of course won't say how) says he can skip all the trash in the instance and just pull and kill Quagmirran and spend less than half an hour in the instance. |
| 08:29.40 | sylvanaar | looks like you cant modify db.raw.namespaces |
| 08:29.40 | ZealotOnAStick | You just don't cast while they're shielded. |
| 08:29.40 | nevcairiel | thats probably exploiting somehow |
| 08:29.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Can wand while they are, and dots still tick. |
| 08:29.47 | nevcairiel | i dont think you can legaly skip all trash |
| 08:29.53 | Cryect | You can also AOE if you want ZealotOnAStick |
| 08:29.55 | sylvanaar | infinite loop on game exit |
| 08:30.10 | [Ammo] | you can lag your way to quagmirran |
| 08:30.13 | [Ammo] | probably |
| 08:30.18 | ZealotOnAStick | I can skip a tremendous amount of it with a couple of invis potions. |
| 08:30.22 | Cryect | there is a way to skip all the trash I know we had a priest who did it but it didn't work to well since he was holy spec |
| 08:30.51 | nevcairiel | the guards see through invis, dont they? or only stealth? |
| 08:30.56 | Cryect | only stealth |
| 08:31.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Stealth. |
| 08:31.01 | Stephmw | ZealotOnAStick: question now is... can you solo it? |
| 08:31.07 | nevcairiel | well i bet it gets patched that they see through invis as well pretty soon then :p |
| 08:31.16 | Cryect | quag can be soloed if you have enough dots |
| 08:31.23 | ZealotOnAStick | I could, it'd just take a while, and probably a few deaths to practice all the terrain bits. |
| 08:31.38 | Cryect | It be mainly boring |
| 08:31.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes, just like DM West farming was back in the day. |
| 08:32.09 | Cryect | good thing about DM WEst you could do it a bunch of times |
| 08:32.14 | Cryect | in a day that is |
| 08:32.50 | ZealotOnAStick | The only reason I'd even consider trying to solo Slave Pens is because I can't get a group every single day to try for another shot at my Trinket (17 kills and no drop, and counting) |
| 08:33.13 | Cryect | ouch |
| 08:33.18 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: That sucks.... no quag's eye yet? |
| 08:33.20 | ZealotOnAStick | That, and "yeah, I'm soloing Pens" on guild chat is sort of e-peen fun. |
| 08:33.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Nope. Not for ME. |
| 08:33.27 | Roartindon | Though, other trinkets may be more powerful after 2.1 |
| 08:33.29 | Cryect | Is it worth bothering with all the epic item upgrades |
| 08:33.33 | Elkano | sylvanaar, starnge... I removed the code for some further changes and it still collapses the inactive header :? |
| 08:33.34 | Roartindon | There's one warlock in our guild that still doesn't have it |
| 08:33.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Like damn near every other caster in the guild, including the shadow priests . . . |
| 08:33.39 | Roartindon | while 2 shaman and 2 priests have it :/ |
| 08:34.40 | [Ammo] | I don't have it meh |
| 08:34.40 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 08:34.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, the change to the haste will make it more useful for Drain Life . . . |
| 08:34.40 | Cryect | well also more useful for Rain of Fire :-p |
| 08:34.40 | Roartindon | what changes are there on haste? |
| 08:34.40 | Roartindon | channeled spells will tick quicker? |
| 08:34.41 | ZealotOnAStick | and I'm currently 44/0/17, though I'm giving strong thought to going back to 40/0/21 |
| 08:34.41 | Cryect | haste speeds up channeled spells |
| 08:34.41 | nevcairiel | haste now works for channeling |
| 08:34.41 | Roartindon | sweet. |
| 08:34.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Spell haste will be worth half as much. |
| 08:34.49 | ZealotOnAStick | But it'll also speed up channel durations. |
| 08:34.59 | Roartindon | My three channeled spells.. evocate, blizzard and arcane missiles.. :) |
| 08:35.06 | ZealotOnAStick | So something will channel in like 3/4 the time but still do the same total damage. |
| 08:35.08 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 08:35.15 | Cryect | its mainly meant for priests I think |
| 08:35.15 | *** join/#wowace HappyRogue (i=koaschte@i577A0BD1.versanet.de) |
| 08:35.23 | sylvanaar | Elkano from the logged out conditon |
| 08:35.33 | theoddone33 | hm I wonder if that will make shadow priests overpowered |
| 08:35.42 | ZealotOnAStick | make them? |
| 08:35.47 | Roartindon | aren't they already? |
| 08:35.47 | Cryect | with the other nerfs they are taking I don't think so |
| 08:36.01 | nevcairiel | nymbia: btw, did anyone apply the AceLibrary patch you created? |
| 08:36.03 | Roartindon | I should go read PTR 2.1 for priests |
| 08:36.03 | theoddone33 | they've been steadily nerfing them |
| 08:36.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I might actually consider spending DKP on Magtheridon's Eye now, though. |
| 08:36.16 | nymbia | nevcairiel: not as far as i know |
| 08:36.31 | sylvanaar | well, trying to modify self.db.raw caused acedb to write out the entire contents of memory to my saved vars |
| 08:36.35 | Roartindon | hmm.. what is the updated info on Mag's eye? |
| 08:36.38 | sylvanaar | that could be a handy trick |
| 08:36.42 | Roartindon | I haven't been itnerested in it at all in the past |
| 08:36.44 | ZealotOnAStick | sylvanaar: tjat |
| 08:36.49 | ZealotOnAStick | sylvanaar: that's awesome. |
| 08:36.50 | Roartindon | Because it's an item that scales inversely with equipment |
| 08:37.05 | ZealotOnAStick | like 54 raw damage equip now. |
| 08:37.08 | [Ammo] | just cast lower ranks to get resists? :) |
| 08:37.11 | ZealotOnAStick | with the same change on resist deal. |
| 08:37.19 | nevcairiel | do lower ranks resist more often? |
| 08:37.20 | ZealotOnAStick | doesn't work, ammo. |
| 08:37.24 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 08:37.27 | Cryect | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/epic/magtheridon.jpg |
| 08:37.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Based off your comparative level, not spell rank. |
| 08:37.31 | Roartindon | nev: no, just don't receive as much +dam I think |
| 08:37.58 | nevcairiel | the staff from mag is great now |
| 08:38.04 | nevcairiel | i hope it drops soon again :D |
| 08:38.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Some of it was good before. |
| 08:38.13 | ZealotOnAStick | The gloves are still tempting. |
| 08:38.15 | Cryect | like almost everything that used to be garbage is great now |
| 08:38.30 | nevcairiel | i should look at illhoofs loot |
| 08:38.34 | nevcairiel | he has mostly garbage |
| 08:38.34 | Cryect | heh its kinda annoying need to go back to Karazhan and actually farm it some more since we had almost completely stopped uit |
| 08:38.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Ehh, I've got two items that were already getting buffed, and now they're getting buffed more. |
| 08:38.48 | Cryect | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/epic/terestian.jpg |
| 08:38.59 | ZealotOnAStick | and a couple more that are getting buffed now that weren't before. |
| 08:39.04 | ZealotOnAStick | like my Mindblade. :) |
| 08:39.19 | nevcairiel | omg |
| 08:39.20 | Roartindon | Yeah, I like my gruul sword :) |
| 08:39.24 | ZealotOnAStick | I was amused at their solution. |
| 08:39.34 | [Ammo] | nice upgrade on ruby slippers :) |
| 08:39.36 | ZealotOnAStick | "Well, crap, we can't work around this ilvl 115 deal. Ok, raise the ilvls." |
| 08:39.49 | nevcairiel | i need teh leather girdle from illhoof now |
| 08:39.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Still take my Hydross boots. |
| 08:39.57 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: Putting kara epics at such a low ilvl before was just stupid tho |
| 08:40.17 | Roartindon | and same wtih ssc epics.. theyneeded a boost |
| 08:40.24 | ZealotOnAStick | They're 51 dam, they got hit added and were being bumped to 54, now they're bumped to 59. |
| 08:40.26 | Roartindon | People had no motivation to 10/25 man |
| 08:40.31 | Cryect | Leather girdle? |
| 08:40.32 | [Ammo] | aw man mindblade goes to 200+ damage |
| 08:40.33 | [Ammo] | sigh |
| 08:40.36 | [Ammo] | I still don't have it |
| 08:40.37 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 08:40.38 | ZealotOnAStick | 203. |
| 08:40.46 | ZealotOnAStick | on both it and the Magus sword from Gruul. |
| 08:40.47 | [Ammo] | lock that dinged 70 a week ago got it today |
| 08:40.53 | [Ammo] | or last night |
| 08:40.56 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: that sucks |
| 08:40.59 | Roartindon | That you still don't hvae it |
| 08:41.00 | Diao | wow |
| 08:41.03 | Diao | where is that breastplate from |
| 08:41.13 | Roartindon | Which one? |
| 08:41.15 | nevcairiel | seriously, that patch really made me need items from kara again |
| 08:41.15 | [Ammo] | Roartindon: I still haven't seen prince even |
| 08:41.16 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 08:41.19 | Boubouille | Diao : vashj |
| 08:41.22 | Diao | lightbinder |
| 08:41.29 | Roartindon | That's illhoof |
| 08:41.29 | Boubouille | oh, not vashj |
| 08:41.31 | Boubouille | :p |
| 08:41.32 | Roartindon | like the link says |
| 08:41.40 | Boubouille | yeah, www.mmo-champion.com ! |
| 08:41.40 | Diao | oh it's all off illhoof? |
| 08:41.48 | Boubouille | or www.mmo-champion.com/index.php if you want to crash the server |
| 08:41.49 | ZealotOnAStick | I -really- want Rittsyn's Pendant now. |
| 08:41.49 | Roartindon | Terrestian illhoof |
| 08:41.55 | Diao | that's a pretty sick healing chestplate |
| 08:41.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Which, of course, also hasn't dropped in my presence. |
| 08:42.02 | Diao | 13 mp5.. |
| 08:42.06 | Diao | and +88 healing |
| 08:42.10 | Cryect | Boubouille did someone take Bibi here? :-p |
| 08:42.19 | Boubouille | Yep. |
| 08:42.20 | Boubouille | :p |
| 08:42.38 | Aenslaed | wow, wtf |
| 08:43.03 | Aenslaed | the stranglestaff is equal to the arena weapon now. |
| 08:43.19 | Aenslaed | lame... what did I spend 4k arena points on then :/ |
| 08:43.29 | Cryect | The arena stuff is still getting upgraded |
| 08:43.45 | nevcairiel | yeah arena stuff is supposed to getting a buff too, but didnt get it yet |
| 08:43.53 | ZealotOnAStick | some of it did. |
| 08:43.57 | Aenslaed | i doubt it will. This season is almost over |
| 08:44.11 | ZealotOnAStick | lot of the weapons were up on the patch before yesterday's. |
| 08:44.21 | Sole | I wanna see season 2 weps |
| 08:44.27 | Sole | before people start stirring up a storm |
| 08:45.01 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd settle for more T5, though. |
| 08:45.06 | [Ammo] | nice buff on voidheart leggings too yeay |
| 08:45.09 | art3mis | geezus |
| 08:45.10 | [Ammo] | ok 2.1 ftw |
| 08:45.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Hunter/Lock/Mage shoulders dropped for us last night. |
| 08:45.23 | ZealotOnAStick | I of course didn't win them, still in the hole on DKP from my pants. |
| 08:45.24 | nevcairiel | best thing in 2.1 |
| 08:45.26 | art3mis | can you imagine that horn on a shadow priest? |
| 08:45.30 | nevcairiel | raid bosses drop 2 tokens now :P |
| 08:45.35 | art3mis | mf critting all the damn time |
| 08:45.35 | nevcairiel | 25-raid that is |
| 08:45.38 | ZealotOnAStick | tjat |
| 08:45.43 | ZealotOnAStick | that'll help a bit. |
| 08:45.52 | Elkano | today isn'T 2.1, is it? |
| 08:46.01 | Roartindon | elkano: doubtful |
| 08:46.03 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 08:46.06 | Cryect | no its scheduled for next week |
| 08:46.09 | ZealotOnAStick | no. |
| 08:46.12 | nevcairiel | i received a launcher update today |
| 08:46.12 | Roartindon | It says only server reboots |
| 08:46.15 | Cryect | but doubt it will make it |
| 08:46.15 | Roartindon | not any downtime |
| 08:46.19 | nevcairiel | i thought it would start background loader |
| 08:46.22 | nevcairiel | but didnt yet |
| 08:46.26 | Roartindon | nev: Same with mine |
| 08:46.57 | Cryect | They still have a whole wave of items + hyjal needs more testing still |
| 08:47.04 | ZealotOnAStick | Speaking of locks, we need another one. *grumble* |
| 08:47.20 | nahkiss | Anyone happens to know if there's a way to force OneView to update itself? I'm missing a lot of stuffs when comparing OneView content to bank content |
| 08:48.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Our best one (hard for me to admit, but true, better than me) is going to Central and South America all Summer. And the guy we brought up from social to replace him isn't as good, is taking ages to get keyed, and is only about 45% attendance. |
| 08:53.18 | nymbia | our locks are so terrible at life |
| 08:53.26 | nymbia | we've got one that's always around |
| 08:53.41 | nymbia | then the rest basically just disappear constantly |
| 08:54.03 | nymbia | we recruit new ones, those disappear. |
| 08:54.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Sounds like our Mages. |
| 08:54.57 | nymbia | i was our only mage for a while, heh |
| 08:55.07 | nymbia | buffing 5 groups = no fun. |
| 08:55.56 | nymbia | k, i feel like starting a new project |
| 08:55.59 | nymbia | what should i write |
| 08:56.19 | Roartindon | ktm that doesn't chew cpu |
| 08:56.33 | nymbia | that sounds painful |
| 08:56.40 | nymbia | not the 'not chewing cpu' part |
| 08:56.48 | nymbia | but the getting threat values accurate part |
| 08:56.54 | sylvanaar | who wants to rewrite acedb? clad? want to make dongledb. or is there one? |
| 08:57.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Fix Voyeur for me. |
| 08:57.04 | Elkano | I hate it when ids change at points where they shouldn't :/ |
| 08:57.10 | sylvanaar | fix acedb |
| 08:57.11 | Cryect | I would be happier with the not chewing up CPU part :-p |
| 08:57.12 | nymbia | sylvanaar: there is one. |
| 08:57.19 | nymbia | sylvanaar: why do you mention it? |
| 08:57.27 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: cant you just steal them from ktm? |
| 08:57.48 | Cryect | I can't imagine it be that hard since its using like 1/3-1/2 the processing time while idling |
| 08:57.52 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: i suppose, but my guess is that looking at the code would cause me great physical pain. |
| 08:57.59 | sylvanaar | because i have wasted hours trying to get acedb to do what i want, and thats the opposite of the reason im using it |
| 08:58.04 | Cryect | nymbia: pfft its better than DBM |
| 08:58.06 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: if you don't want to use acedb then don't use it |
| 08:58.08 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: sacrifices must be made in the name of progress? ;) |
| 08:58.16 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: lol |
| 08:58.21 | ZealotOnAStick | it is a bit messy, thought since the "rewrite" it's a little better. |
| 08:58.23 | sylvanaar | thats why im asking |
| 08:58.25 | Cryect | nymbia: The values are all in tables |
| 08:58.29 | sylvanaar | if theres a dongledb |
| 08:58.32 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: what's wrong with voyeur? workin fine for me |
| 08:58.40 | Elkano | well, the problem with writing a ktm of your own isn't the core imho but the data :/ |
| 08:58.48 | ZealotOnAStick | If you want physical pain, go look at the Trinity bars code. |
| 08:58.58 | ZealotOnAStick | nymbia: mostly fine for me too, except for set items on other people. |
| 08:59.08 | ZealotOnAStick | which is the main thing people gripe about. |
| 08:59.17 | Cryect | Trinity Bars Code I assume has a lot of bloat? |
| 08:59.25 | nymbia | actually i'd say a ktm-like thing would be hot as a Violation module |
| 08:59.27 | ZealotOnAStick | It's like 8k lines or code or something like that. |
| 08:59.29 | ZealotOnAStick | in one file. |
| 08:59.39 | Cryect | so yeah he just kept adding new features there :-p |
| 08:59.47 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: they're whiners |
| 08:59.53 | Roartindon | 8k lines in one file...... |
| 09:00.09 | ZealotOnAStick | not terribly well structures ones, at that. |
| 09:00.17 | Cryect | wow the file is 318kb |
| 09:00.19 | ZealotOnAStick | s/structures/structured/ |
| 09:00.50 | Cryect | thats 8143 lines of not many comments either so basically all code |
| 09:00.57 | ZealotOnAStick | I try not to criticize code form and so forth much . . . as I hate to code, and try to avoid it. |
| 09:01.25 | ZealotOnAStick | but I spent about 2 1/2 hours one night in the Trinity code trying to figure out how to get a working cyCircled module for it. |
| 09:01.32 | nymbia | haha |
| 09:01.33 | ZealotOnAStick | and I had a physical headache afterwards. |
| 09:01.34 | Cryect | The form of his code isn't bad readability wise else than lack of comments which if you don't really intend for others to look at it |
| 09:02.28 | ZealotOnAStick | I'll be the first to admit I'm just a hack, rather than a true programmer with any actual merit or talent. |
| 09:02.35 | nymbia | i dont really comment stuff much (with a couple exceptions) |
| 09:02.35 | Cryect | Why make a cycircle for it? |
| 09:02.44 | Cryect | since it has builtin circles etc |
| 09:02.46 | ZealotOnAStick | but I try to make my hackage pretty. |
| 09:02.51 | nymbia | but i'd like to think my code structure is kinda sane |
| 09:02.56 | nymbia | and where it isnt, i comment |
| 09:03.03 | ZealotOnAStick | Because people wanted it, for things like the diamonds, litestep, etc. |
| 09:03.09 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.18.176.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 09:03.12 | sylvanaar | 500k lines in my SV's gg |
| 09:03.12 | nymbia | (like the auras positioning code in pitbull) |
| 09:03.14 | Fisker- | Memory Usage: (Usage: 0/2048MB (0.00%)) ¤ (--------------------------------------------------) |
| 09:03.17 | Fisker- | lolwut? |
| 09:03.29 | ZealotOnAStick | and I (foolishly and erronedously) thought it "wouldn't really be too hard to figure out" |
| 09:03.33 | nymbia | Fisker-: we were talking about your mom |
| 09:03.33 | Fisker- | I think i need new spamscripts :D |
| 09:03.38 | nymbia | Fisker-: how's your ram |
| 09:03.39 | Fisker- | CPU Info: (2 CPU's - Intel Pentium III, 2.40 GHz, (5% Load)) |
| 09:03.40 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 09:03.50 | Fisker- | 2 P3's and 0% Mem usage |
| 09:03.52 | Fisker- | that's awesome |
| 09:04.17 | Cryect | so you running like dos 5 or something on processor cache? |
| 09:04.23 | Fisker- | nah |
| 09:04.23 | nymbia | hahaha |
| 09:04.26 | Fisker- | i got 4GB RAM |
| 09:04.34 | Fisker- | but for some reason this script only knows about 2GB |
| 09:04.40 | Cryect | good old can't handle unsigned 32 bit numbers |
| 09:04.46 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 09:04.49 | Roartindon | does it only know about 2 of your 4 CPUs too? |
| 09:04.52 | ZealotOnAStick | If someone OC'd P3s to 2.4GHz without liquid helium or something, I'd be damn impressed. |
| 09:04.56 | nymbia | big numbers are hard :( |
| 09:04.56 | Fisker- | nah |
| 09:05.04 | Fisker- | the quad-core didn't come out until late this month |
| 09:05.13 | Fisker- | well noone had it in stock until late this month |
| 09:05.23 | Fisker- | so i'll be buying a quad-core when HL2:EP2 gets released |
| 09:05.41 | sylvanaar | what |
| 09:05.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Wish I had your kind of play money. |
| 09:05.42 | Fisker- | gonna reboot and get the last drivers setup |
| 09:05.46 | Fisker- | :P |
| 09:05.48 | Fisker- | brb |
| 09:05.56 | Elkano | oh, he survived :( |
| 09:06.07 | sylvanaar | i thought the quads are already out |
| 09:06.10 | Fisker- | mwuhahahah |
| 09:06.39 | Fisker- | They are, but for some reason no webstores in this country has a quad-core besides the really high end one for like ~1000$ |
| 09:06.42 | sylvanaar | i have an 8800gtx its ok |
| 09:06.57 | sylvanaar | newegg has the $500 one |
| 09:07.07 | Fisker- | We got tax and stuff |
| 09:07.10 | Fisker- | shit is expensive over here |
| 09:07.15 | sylvanaar | over where |
| 09:07.18 | Fisker- | i'm nowhere near the US :P |
| 09:07.19 | Fisker- | Denmark |
| 09:07.33 | sylvanaar | oh, cool, my forex dealer is thre |
| 09:07.33 | Fisker- | well in contrast we do have a higher average wage i believe |
| 09:07.35 | Cryect | good old VAT + other taxes |
| 09:07.57 | Fisker- | oh well rebooting now |
| 09:08.06 | ZealotOnAStick | nymbia: you could make that socket planner mod |
| 09:08.11 | Cryect | so how much value gets added by those VAT's |
| 09:08.17 | Cryect | and he reboots |
| 09:08.17 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@dhcp-76-200.uni-paderborn.de) |
| 09:08.21 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: ooh, that could be interesting |
| 09:09.11 | Cryect | I feel like making a 2d sprite library or something >_> |
| 09:09.25 | ZealotOnAStick | I think I have a "complexing things more than they perhaps need to be" suggestion for it based on someone else's idea in the ideas/requests board buried a bit. |
| 09:09.32 | Cryect | I feel the need for a SHMUP inside of WoW |
| 09:09.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Gimme a Sinistar emulator in WoW. |
| 09:09.50 | ZealotOnAStick | Just for esoteric cool points. |
| 09:10.06 | ZealotOnAStick | Gyruss would also be acceptable. |
| 09:10.28 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.18.176.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 09:10.35 | Tuikku | http://80.222.65.173/~sika/uutistenlukuohje.png |
| 09:10.36 | Fisker- | anyways |
| 09:10.39 | Tuikku | oops |
| 09:10.50 | Fisker- | weird stuff was that the computer actually worked after changing from AMD to Intel |
| 09:10.53 | Fisker- | that's pretty news to me |
| 09:10.59 | Cryect | why not? |
| 09:11.11 | Fisker- | Usually the motherboard drivers would be incompatible and crash it |
| 09:12.52 | Cryect | wonder how many sprites could get running well in WoW |
| 09:13.16 | Fisker- | Isn't there something about i need some special drivers to enable memory over 4GB btw? |
| 09:13.27 | *** join/#wowace sbu (n=sb@dslb-084-056-186-210.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:13.59 | Cryect | Hmmm I think windows xp might just support it with the SP's |
| 09:14.27 | Elkano | \o/ remembering collapsed headers seems to be working :) |
| 09:17.08 | CIA-23 | 03elkano * r34787 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.lua: FuBar_FactionsFu: should now remember collapsed headers over sessions |
| 09:29.36 | theoddone33 | http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8906/wowscrnshot012707205050cs1.jpg heh |
| 09:30.51 | Punkie` | Anyone know of a KVM that allows you to use dualscreen? Can't find one :( |
| 09:31.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Uhm. What's the point of a switch if you have two screens? |
| 09:32.18 | Punkie` | cause i have 2 computers and i like dual screen? :P |
| 09:32.20 | Stephmw | he wants to two-box two dual-monitor pcs? |
| 09:32.22 | ZealotOnAStick | You might be better off using Synergy. |
| 09:32.48 | Stephmw | Synergy is pants with mouselook |
| 09:33.18 | Fisker- | booh! |
| 09:36.35 | Punkie` | ok so like, i have vista which I am testing for my company |
| 09:36.45 | Punkie` | and XP which is functional with our software |
| 09:37.10 | Punkie` | but I used both with dualscreen |
| 09:37.20 | Punkie` | so is the only way to get 2 KVM and press them both? :P |
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| 09:39.39 | Stephmw | glue a stick to join the buttons? but yeah, I've not come across dual-screen aware KVMs |
| 09:42.42 | Punkie` | I think I'll do that |
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| 09:47.34 | nevcairiel | lol nice work around :P |
| 09:47.47 | Sais | Make your own panel and wire it to both KVM front panels ;) |
| 09:47.55 | Sais | Then market the device |
| 09:48.38 | nevcairiel | thats a crazy setup tho |
| 09:48.47 | nevcairiel | two pcs, who each use both screens? :D |
| 09:49.27 | Nargiddley | a pc driving each screen, one kb/mouse for each ? |
| 09:49.52 | Nargiddley | s/each/both/ |
| 09:50.02 | Nargiddley | bleh :/ |
| 09:50.05 | Sais | lol |
| 09:50.18 | Nargiddley | it even only changed the wrong one |
| 09:50.20 | Nargiddley | heh |
| 09:50.32 | Nargiddley | but anyway |
| 09:50.33 | Nargiddley | http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ |
| 09:50.57 | Punkie` | doesnt say it works with vista |
| 09:51.07 | Nargiddley | hm |
| 09:51.31 | Nargiddley | have you tried it ? |
| 09:52.09 | Nargiddley | just found a site saying it works perfectly |
| 09:52.33 | Punkie` | nope, i haven't |
| 09:52.50 | nymbia | i use it |
| 09:53.02 | nymbia | not on vista though |
| 09:53.09 | Nargiddley | same |
| 09:53.30 | Nargiddley | (typing from my desktop keyboard with mirc running on a laptop atm) |
| 09:53.38 | Punkie` | is it laggy and crappy like i would think? |
| 09:54.04 | Nargiddley | not in the slightest |
| 09:54.19 | Nargiddley | unless something is using near 100% cpu and it stutters a bit |
| 09:54.31 | Nargiddley | normal use you dont notice it |
| 09:55.38 | Punkie` | sounds cheap and cheerful |
| 09:57.52 | Gngsk | synergy2 does own |
| 09:58.12 | Gngsk | I use it, only problem is it doesn't work well in wow on a client |
| 09:58.31 | Punkie` | yeah, that's pretty obvious though |
| 09:58.36 | Punkie` | same with VNC |
| 09:59.19 | Punkie` | wait |
| 09:59.25 | Punkie` | couldnt i just liek |
| 09:59.28 | Punkie` | use VNC? :P |
| 09:59.35 | Punkie` | surely this is almost the same |
| 09:59.44 | Gngsk | I'd think that synergy2 is lighter |
| 09:59.46 | Gngsk | less features though |
| 09:59.57 | Gngsk | if all you're trying to do is use 1 keyboard/mouse for multiple boxes |
| 10:00.05 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 10:00.19 | Gngsk | try synergy, it's really easy to setup and works very well |
| 10:00.37 | Gngsk | the shared clipboard is the best part about it |
| 10:00.45 | Gngsk | copy text on one pc, move mouse, paste on another |
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| 10:02.57 | Punkie` | that happens on vnc too |
| 10:08.14 | Punkie` | ok i have 2 connected |
| 10:08.17 | Punkie` | it says so |
| 10:08.21 | Punkie` | how do i switch? :D |
| 10:08.33 | Nargiddley | did you setup how they are connected ? |
| 10:08.51 | Nargiddley | if so just move the mouse out of one and into the other |
| 10:09.06 | Punkie` | i set up the deadzone things |
| 10:09.15 | Punkie` | and if i move my mouse to the top left |
| 10:09.25 | Punkie` | doesnt do anything |
| 10:09.33 | Nargiddley | you have to setup PC1 is to the LEFT of PC2 |
| 10:09.41 | Nargiddley | and PC2 is to the RIGHT of PC1 |
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| 10:09.52 | Fisker- | damn |
| 10:09.53 | Fisker- | shit sucks :( |
| 10:10.15 | Fisker- | I got a ~40MB download ahead of me and the gigabyte mirrors are like 5kB/s |
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| 10:14.01 | manub | hi there, is WAU working correctly now with dotted version numbers? ;) |
| 10:14.28 | yacoob | synergy2 rulez. |
| 10:17.40 | manub | noone knows? :( |
| 10:18.38 | Fisker- | it should |
| 10:19.24 | manub | ok, I will give it a try :) |
| 10:25.13 | Punkie` | ok i did it |
| 10:25.24 | Punkie` | it works but it doesnt like, change my screens and whatnot |
| 10:25.34 | Punkie` | which is why i said KVM :P |
| 10:25.36 | Fisker- | WTF |
| 10:25.41 | Fisker- | Protected Actions |
| 10:25.41 | Fisker- | * Submitting or editing a GM ticket is now a protected action, and may not be done by third party AddOns. |
| 10:25.42 | Fisker- | why? |
| 10:25.49 | Fisker- | are they fucking stupid? |
| 10:26.01 | Roartindon | hmm.. they said they liked the feedback |
| 10:26.05 | Roartindon | and now they protect the function? |
| 10:27.15 | nymbia | they probably still let us fill in the text |
| 10:27.29 | [Ammo] | just require a few more clicks now |
| 10:30.45 | Punkie` | How do I get Synergy2 to switch my current screens to show what's on the other computer (screenless) when i slide my mouse off? |
| 10:30.55 | manub | [Ammo], do you know if WAU still got problems when updating due to dotted version numbers? |
| 10:31.57 | [Ammo] | I don't use WAU so dunno |
| 10:32.02 | manub | ok, thanks anyway :) |
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| 10:36.19 | Punkie` | I guess I can't do that? :( |
| 10:36.46 | Nargiddley | dont think so :/ |
| 10:37.50 | Punkie` | back to the 2x KVM then :D |
| 10:39.15 | Fisker- | i don't know if i should be relying on their programs/drivers to properly do stuff when they misspell "check" into "chcek" |
| 10:39.16 | Fisker- | :o |
| 10:45.06 | clad|sleep | sylvanaar: ping |
| 10:52.53 | AKX | Hey, what's the cast bar addon people use nowadays, it seems oCB has died? |
| 10:54.25 | Gngsk | CBRipOff |
| 10:54.58 | Bruners | i use eCastingBar |
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| 11:24.07 | phyber | heh, Slouken said they are making an easier way to send spam reports. |
| 11:24.19 | phyber | it's going to be just like the LFG tool all over again. |
| 11:24.25 | phyber | does anyone actually use that? |
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| 11:24.49 | [Ammo] | phyber: no-one does |
| 11:25.13 | phyber | hmm, thought I was looking at the wowi-lounge. no matter, lots from there are in here anyway ;) |
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| 11:27.44 | phyber | has anyone asked Slouken about having the chat events send the level and class of a person yet in the 2.1.0 changes thread? |
| 11:28.05 | phyber | would be nice to not have to cache all of that in Prat, etc. |
| 11:29.19 | vhaarr | phyber: I logged on PTR last night and in the General channel people had some numeric identifier behind their names. |
| 11:29.19 | vhaarr | I have no idea what it was, but it wasn't a level number. |
| 11:29.20 | vhaarr | <Name:8> for a lvl 70 guy. |
| 11:29.28 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 11:29.39 | vhaarr | why did funkeh remove BigWigs_TabletBars |
| 11:29.41 | phyber | is the 8 perhaps an indicator of class? |
| 11:29.51 | vhaarr | phyber: that was my thought |
| 11:29.56 | vhaarr | but I don't know, really |
| 11:30.04 | vhaarr | he was a paladin |
| 11:30.12 | vhaarr | I didn't see anyone else speak |
| 11:30.50 | [Ammo] | dunno why he removed tabletbars |
| 11:30.51 | Fisker- | is it still happening? |
| 11:31.10 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: it worked fine, it just wasn't developed actively |
| 11:31.21 | vhaarr | Fisker-: I'm not on 2.1 now, but guess I could check |
| 11:31.35 | Fisker- | well i can help you check :P |
| 11:31.39 | Fisker- | because i'm also a paladin |
| 11:31.43 | Fisker- | that is if you're on the EU realms |
| 11:31.49 | vhaarr | EU PvE |
| 11:33.23 | Fisker- | just gotta wait for the new patch |
| 11:33.41 | Fisker- | for some reason it became slow @ 86% |
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| 11:36.19 | fixiee | Has blizz nerfed decursive behavior? |
| 11:36.23 | vhaarr | says :13 behind me |
| 11:36.29 | vhaarr | fixiee: In 2.0, yes. |
| 11:36.40 | Fisker- | try /chatlist the channel |
| 11:36.44 | vhaarr | Fisker-: I did. |
| 11:36.44 | fixiee | what exactly does decursive do these days? |
| 11:36.45 | vhaarr | I'm alone. |
| 11:36.48 | fixiee | show you who has a curse and nothing else? |
| 11:36.48 | Fisker- | :I |
| 11:36.51 | vhaarr | fixiee: Install it and see? |
| 11:37.01 | Fisker- | It's pretty much a monitor |
| 11:37.06 | Fisker- | Grid > * |
| 11:37.12 | Fisker- | well Grid + Clique > * |
| 11:37.17 | Diao | decursive is like a mini-grid |
| 11:37.20 | vhaarr | Not really, it has unit frames and click-casting. |
| 11:37.20 | fixiee | sadface |
| 11:37.28 | xlvii | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn5aSgv4Hp8 -- Aussie Humour > all. (NSFW) |
| 11:37.29 | vhaarr | Detox is a monitor. |
| 11:37.40 | fixiee | hmm |
| 11:37.43 | fixiee | click-casting works? |
| 11:37.44 | Fisker- | i should lurk more then |
| 11:37.47 | fixiee | it stopped working for me lately |
| 11:37.52 | fixiee | whenever i clicked the small gridframes |
| 11:37.54 | fixiee | it didnt cast decurse |
| 11:38.04 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 11:38.08 | Diao | depends on how you have it set up |
| 11:38.11 | vhaarr | The number changes every time I type something. |
| 11:38.19 | Fisker- | that's nice |
| 11:38.24 | fixiee | hmm gotta fix that then! |
| 11:38.39 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: check the framexml for hints? |
| 11:38.41 | vhaarr | I think it's the number of chat lines since login. |
| 11:38.47 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: that's not fun :( |
| 11:39.09 | fixiee | question though, what's a good ace2 mod that will show you rating as % ? And preferably a summary of the item at the bottom (eg int gives X.XX% crit), preferably also with an item compare feature (comparing output/change to you comparing two items ) =D |
| 11:39.16 | vhaarr | I wonder what purpose it serves. |
| 11:39.36 | wallen | fixiee: RatingBuster |
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| 11:44.08 | fixiee | thank you |
| 11:44.12 | fixiee | exactly what i was looking for |
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| 11:47.26 | fixiee | any Ace2 gruul rangewarner? |
| 11:47.35 | Roartindon_ | fixiee: BigWigs has it inbuilt |
| 11:47.59 | fixiee | oO, i must have an old version then |
| 11:48.03 | fixiee | or not have that feature turned on |
| 11:49.29 | Fisker- | There is added a proximity addon which you can use for proximity based encounters |
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| 12:02.33 | fixiee | oh nice |
| 12:06.58 | sylvanaar | phyber prat can run without keeping player data |
| 12:07.28 | [Ammo] | I think what he meant was even without keeping it in memory while running |
| 12:07.40 | [Ammo] | if events pass level and class then there is no need for a nonstored cache eitehr |
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| 12:08.51 | sylvanaar | yes, i made a post asking for it on the bliz forum |
| 12:09.55 | phyber | sylvanaar: I know. I just like having that data available between sessions. |
| 12:10.09 | phyber | so, it would be nice if it was "just there" :) |
| 12:10.42 | sylvanaar | what do you mean between sessions |
| 12:11.37 | phyber | after restarting wow, for example. |
| 12:13.11 | Roartindon_ | phyber: There's an option to store that data between sessions in Prat PlayerNames I believe |
| 12:13.27 | phyber | *sigh* I know :p |
| 12:13.31 | sylvanaar | ah, for people who arent your friend or guildmate why do you want to store thier info |
| 12:13.46 | phyber | the point was, Blizzard should just make the data available so that saving it between sessions is not necessary. |
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| 12:13.53 | sylvanaar | yes true |
| 12:14.31 | Roartindon_ | ah |
| 12:15.07 | sylvanaar | i think it should be in all chat with a sender |
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| 12:16.02 | phyber | sylvanaar: if people are shouting about getting a group, and I'm also looking for group members, it's quicker if I've seen them before. since their names are coloured for what class they are. I don't have to shift-click them to check if that guy who just shouted for Shadow Labs is actually a healer or not. |
| 12:16.04 | sylvanaar | even better the complete who information class, race, level, zone, guild |
| 12:16.13 | phyber | etc ;) |
| 12:16.36 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 12:17.29 | phyber | and yeah, complete info would be really nice. |
| 12:18.35 | phyber | it would be like the ambassadors reception. Except instead of Ferrero Rocher, there is Unit Info. |
| 12:18.41 | phyber | "Oh Mr. Slouken, you do spoil us!" |
| 12:19.26 | sylvanaar | the bliz forum sickens me lol |
| 12:19.27 | Gngsk | Ferrero Rocher > * |
| 12:19.44 | sylvanaar | how do you spell sycophant? |
| 12:20.01 | Gngsk | psychofant! |
| 12:20.24 | phyber | sylvanaar: exactly how you just spelled it. |
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| 12:20.54 | sylvanaar | phyber, if you want to run an old and fat mod, you can use calltoarms to solve that issue you mention |
| 12:22.00 | phyber | I used to run that, long ago. I don't usually look for group members anyway, I just join in guild stuff. :) |
| 12:34.20 | vhaarr | piece of shit armory, *never* works in EU |
| 12:34.33 | wallen | Is there a way to see in SCT the name of the spells that get resisted? |
| 12:34.51 | wallen | either that or in SCTD as well |
| 12:34.58 | kenlyric | mmo-champ kerploded. |
| 12:35.16 | phyber | vhaarr: I like how it makes browsers on anything but windows explode. |
| 12:35.38 | vhaarr | phyber: ye |
| 12:35.43 | phyber | Most of the time, I cannot use it from firefox/opera in linux. something to do with the Flash not letting me type a charname. |
| 12:36.02 | phyber | and trying to go to the URL directly for a realm/character doesn't work. |
| 12:36.17 | wallen | the direct addressing works for me |
| 12:36.23 | vhaarr | yeah, that works for me, but then I get no item tooltips |
| 12:36.29 | vhaarr | and can't click to talents/rep/etc |
| 12:37.20 | beerke | phyber |
| 12:37.27 | beerke | click character search first |
| 12:37.37 | beerke | then you can type in a character name |
| 12:37.51 | beerke | there is some link down that links directly to characters |
| 12:38.02 | phyber | doesn't make a difference. |
| 12:38.09 | phyber | the "Search" field is unclickable. |
| 12:38.17 | beerke | it does on me under linux with firefox |
| 12:38.33 | phyber | this is firefox underlinux with flash 9 |
| 12:38.48 | beerke | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-search.xml |
| 12:39.06 | beerke | that link works for me |
| 12:39.29 | wobin | I love it when people are -sure- my addons are 'wrong' |
| 12:39.59 | wobin | cause everyone can precisely figure out how energy ticks fire when at full energy, just by watching. |
| 12:40.09 | Gngsk | PlowKing is wrong. |
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| 12:42.27 | phyber | I think the problem is that the piece of Flash with the spark running around the edge overlaps the field where you write what you want to search for. |
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| 12:42.52 | phyber | making it not clickable. if I just press "search". the "You must type 2 or more chars" bubble pops out from under that spark. |
| 12:43.41 | beerke | what i linked works, the front page one doesn't work for me |
| 12:43.54 | beerke | i can click editbox without any problem and type in char name |
| 12:43.59 | Loki|muh | yeah, something is wrong with flash and linux and wow pages... I got this overlap problem with www.wow-europe.com |
| 12:44.20 | Loki|muh | where the menu which pops up is behind the flash-thingy in the middle |
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| 12:44.34 | beerke | have teh same on DI.fm |
| 12:44.42 | beerke | so doubt it is only wow issue :P |
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| 13:19.16 | kebinusan | seems some realms are having problems with the simple restart this morning |
| 13:19.47 | Gngsk | you don't sound surprised |
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| 13:20.14 | Elkano | at least for EU there was a small launcher patch today (resulting in a reset client's db :/ ) |
| 13:21.27 | kebinusan | yeah, I dont know if its a good thing or not that Ive come to expect problems on tuesdays |
| 13:21.42 | Gngsk | went smooth on my realm |
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| 13:29.10 | Arjor | guys how to you change the bigwigs emphasize bars from 10 sec to 5 |
| 13:29.12 | Arjor | any idea? |
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| 13:30.39 | [Ammo] | Arjor: you can't |
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| 13:31.18 | phyber | when an effect on set bonuses has "a chance" at procing, what percentage is "a chance" ? |
| 13:32.10 | Arjor | [Ammo] you might wanna make that value editable. 10 sec is way to much imo |
| 13:32.24 | Arjor | bosses abilities has like 15-20 sec cd |
| 13:32.38 | [Ammo] | most are 30+ |
| 13:33.04 | Arjor | still |
| 13:33.10 | Arjor | 5 is better imo |
| 13:34.20 | Adys | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=14586 heh |
| 13:34.47 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 13:34.50 | Fisker- | what is that? |
| 13:35.00 | kebinusan | [Ammo] I havent looked at the code, but is it possible to have the emphasis anchor grow in a different direction from the normal bar anchor. Example being my normal anchor is at the bottom of my screen and grows up, but Id like the emphasis anchor at the top growing down |
| 13:38.52 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: can't atm |
| 13:38.54 | [Ammo] | but I can fix that shortly |
| 13:39.22 | kebinusan | awesome |
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| 13:42.41 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r34788 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: allow separate growup state for emphasize anchor |
| 13:42.43 | [Ammo] | that should do the trick |
| 13:43.20 | kebinusan | sweet |
| 13:43.36 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 13:43.41 | kebinusan | heh |
| 13:49.35 | Stylpe | How do I access another module's namespace? Do I just need to use AcquireDBNamespace("moduleDB") |
| 13:51.43 | sylvanaar | Stylpe just make the module a global, then use ModuleName.db |
| 13:52.12 | Stylpe | Sounds dirty =P |
| 13:52.19 | sylvanaar | its not |
| 13:52.24 | vhaarr | Core:GetModule("Name").db |
| 13:52.28 | Megalon | quick'n'dirty! |
| 13:52.35 | Stylpe | I'm basically making a layout for PitBull, and need to read settings from the default layout. Can't I just use AcquireDBNamespace("ABF-Layout")? |
| 13:52.42 | Stylpe | or something similar? |
| 13:52.55 | JoshBorke | Stylpe: why do you need the settings from the default layout? |
| 13:52.57 | sylvanaar | sure |
| 13:53.24 | sylvanaar | thats in the docs |
| 13:53.51 | Stylpe | Because I'm using it as an template, and there are certain savedvars I'm not modifying, so they should be kept where they belong in the original layout |
| 13:54.00 | [Ammo] | every layout inherits from ABF |
| 13:54.30 | Stylpe | sylvanaar: Thanks, read the docs a bit, but couldn't find specific info on modules accessing other modules' DBs |
| 13:54.40 | sylvanaar | you need its name |
| 13:54.53 | sylvanaar | the one it used when it called RegisterDB |
| 13:55.11 | Stylpe | ABF does local ABF_db = PitBull:AcquireDBNamespace("Layout-ABF") |
| 13:55.31 | Stylpe | I figured I could practically just copy n paste that into my code, just wanted to check first |
| 13:56.06 | Stylpe | Didn't know if it would share or overwrite the namespace, is all |
| 13:56.08 | [Ammo] | Stylpe: pitbull is made so every layout inherits from ABF |
| 13:56.14 | [Ammo] | so you should not have to do it manually |
| 13:56.56 | Stylpe | [Ammo]: You mean I could just refer to my modules db, and it'd check the ABF db if it doesn't find a value there? |
| 13:57.13 | [Ammo] | probably not hmm |
| 13:57.23 | [Ammo] | probably only inherits the abf functions |
| 13:58.27 | Stylpe | Because I had reports of the DruidManabar not being modifiable, and when I checked the code, I found I did actually check for the setting in my db, but I don't have functions for actually setting them in my db, that's inherited from ABF. |
| 13:58.40 | Stylpe | which would set it in the ABF db |
| 13:58.51 | Stylpe | and thus I need access to that =P |
| 13:58.56 | Stylpe | Still with me? |
| 13:59.12 | Fisker- | Anyone know where i can get a hold of VTX 1.2 or 1.12? |
| 13:59.21 | [Ammo] | yeah I am |
| 13:59.22 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 13:59.32 | [Ammo] | you could just copy paste the junk out of abf |
| 13:59.36 | sylvanaar | all aquire namespace really does is set up all the metatable magic for db.whatever |
| 13:59.56 | sylvanaar | its more of a notational convienience |
| 13:59.57 | [Ammo] | since you need the options as well |
| 13:59.59 | Stylpe | [Ammo], I'd rather not, if ckk changes ABF I'd have to mirror those changes every time |
| 14:00.26 | Stylpe | sylvanaar: Oh cool, it should work then if I just copy the line I pasted =) |
| 14:01.01 | [Ammo] | currently the layouts in pitbull only have 2 'original' ones |
| 14:01.04 | [Ammo] | ABF and Buu |
| 14:01.09 | Fisker- | Anyone know why i have music and sounds but no spelleffects? |
| 14:01.11 | [Ammo] | the rest are rehashed ABF layouts with minimal changes |
| 14:01.13 | [Ammo] | I don't see the point |
| 14:01.24 | Stylpe | Actually, it's the Buu layout I'm working on =P Me and PProvost that is |
| 14:01.38 | Stylpe | To make it more modifiable from in-game |
| 14:02.32 | Stylpe | Fisker-: Everywhere? I know some areas in Outlands that have a lot of ambient sound effects that eat up all the sound channels |
| 14:02.57 | [Ammo] | Stylpe: ah ok |
| 14:03.12 | [Ammo] | I thought you were doing the stupid seerah or blend which don't add anything extra |
| 14:03.16 | [Ammo] | or unique |
| 14:03.24 | Fisker- | it was in orgrimmar actually Stylpe :o |
| 14:03.39 | Stylpe | Fisker-: Oh =P |
| 14:03.43 | Fisker- | it worked when i set my sound channels at the lowest amount though |
| 14:03.46 | [Ammo] | ckk is just weak and not hammering down on slightly adjusted ABF layouts |
| 14:04.03 | Stylpe | Yeah, annoyed by that too |
| 14:04.12 | Stylpe | Fisker-: Great =) |
| 14:06.10 | Stylpe | [Ammo] I'm redoing Buu complete with modifiable portrait height goodness |
| 14:06.29 | [Ammo] | Stylpe: using the same magic as ABF? |
| 14:07.01 | Stylpe | That depends, what magic are you talking about? It does inherit most of ABF, only relevant functions are modified |
| 14:07.03 | sylvanaar | acedb still overflows the stack on logout for me |
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| 14:08.09 | sylvanaar | looping outputting the same data over and over into my SV's which exceed 500k lines |
| 14:08.16 | [Ammo] | Style: I mean setting height of all bars etc relative |
| 14:08.29 | [Ammo] | I have my bars set up: healthabr 4, manabar 3, castbar 2 |
| 14:08.53 | [Ammo] | so my healthbar is 4/9th heigh |
| 14:08.53 | Stylpe | Yep |
| 14:08.54 | Stylpe | That's how it is |
| 14:09.54 | Stylpe | Was wondering if I should up the max limit of the portrait, since some ppl might want a higher portrait, but it could be just as easy just setting small values for the other bars and max the portrait |
| 14:10.18 | [Ammo] | yeah if people don't understand relative numbers shrug |
| 14:10.57 | Stylpe | But to mimick the original Buu layout I don't know if that's high enough, I'll have to test that =P |
| 14:11.17 | [Ammo] | 10 1 1 |
| 14:11.36 | [Ammo] | but you could probably up the values a bit |
| 14:12.29 | Stylpe | Like 20, can't hurt, right? |
| 14:13.15 | Stylpe | But I use the sort of widescreen look, I'll find a link if you want to see it |
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| 14:19.54 | Fisker- | Bam__ |
| 14:19.54 | Fisker- | i win |
| 14:20.03 | Bam__ | really? |
| 14:20.04 | Fisker- | Memory Usage: (Usage: 0/2048MB (0.00%)) ¤ (--------------------------------------------------) |
| 14:20.05 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:20.06 | Fisker- | rly |
| 14:20.20 | Bam__ | umm... i'm lost lol |
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| 14:20.48 | kebinusan | What casting bar mod is all the rage these days |
| 14:20.57 | Bam__ | oh you got your 4 gig today? |
| 14:21.53 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:21.59 | Bam__ | cool |
| 14:22.45 | phyber | kebinusan: I use the one in IceHUD :) |
| 14:22.57 | Gngsk | I use the pitbull castingbar |
| 14:23.32 | Fisker- | So Microsoft's Silverlight is some kind of competitor to flash? |
| 14:23.51 | Bam__ | a "Flash Killer" they say :P |
| 14:23.58 | [dRaCo] | supposed too, yeah |
| 14:24.29 | Bam__ | they intend to support both Mac and Linux at least |
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| 14:26.53 | beerke | sounds like, it works best under windows, so if it doesn't full work under mac and linux you should sue windows :P |
| 14:27.02 | beerke | *use |
| 14:27.08 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 14:27.20 | beerke | that was a not intented typo |
| 14:27.30 | Bam__ | both made sense :P |
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| 14:30.38 | Fisker- | I wonder how much orcas will screw up my system :o |
| 14:30.38 | CIA-23 | 03ag * r34789 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files): |
| 14:30.39 | CIA-23 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 14:30.39 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:35.12 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WAU 1.7-final http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. | WAU is looking for development help, ping Kaelten if interested. | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization |
| 14:35.28 | Bam__ | ~wb |
| 14:35.33 | purl | thx |
| 14:35.38 | Bam__ | :) |
| 14:36.04 | Gngsk | yay perl |
| 14:36.19 | Gngsk | wait, purl |
| 14:36.21 | Gngsk | >< |
| 14:36.38 | vhaarr | ag`: installed PTR yet? ^^ |
| 14:39.31 | Fisker- | he's to stupid to understand right now :O |
| 14:40.34 | wobin | hehe |
| 14:40.50 | wobin | Flash Killer |
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| 14:41.00 | Fin | do - not - crash - on - me! |
| 14:41.05 | Fin | nyaaaaaaaarg |
| 14:41.14 | Bam__ | problems? :P |
| 14:41.54 | Fin | I just spent about an hour configuring PitBull, Cartographer, and Infinibar... I've saved some of it, but... nyaaaaaaarg |
| 14:42.06 | Bam__ | ouch |
| 14:42.23 | Fin | oh well |
| 14:42.39 | Gngsk | do one at a time, son |
| 14:42.57 | Bam__ | one setting at a time if your comp is unstable :P |
| 14:43.07 | Fin | I know! |
| 14:43.19 | Fin | gah |
| 14:43.40 | Amadeo | New Gentoo out, geeks are going wild! |
| 14:43.41 | Fin | it was just... one... more... little... tweak, *then* I was going to reload and save changes |
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| 14:43.59 | Gngsk | don't be greedy |
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| 14:44.10 | Fin | I *wish* there was some easier way of writing changes to disk |
| 14:44.33 | Fin | anyway |
| 14:44.41 | Fin | this just gives me a chance to make it better |
| 14:44.42 | nevcairiel | reload more often :) |
| 14:45.05 | Fin | thank you all so much for the helpful advice bah |
| 14:45.08 | Punkie` | Is it cool to use Infinibar ? |
| 14:45.11 | Bam__ | real men don't take backups they say |
| 14:45.22 | Fin | Punkie`: puts hairs on your chest |
| 14:45.24 | Bam__ | real men also cry more :P |
| 14:45.28 | Punkie` | aweschum |
| 14:45.41 | Kilroo | What does the temperature induced by an addon have to do with chest hair? |
| 14:45.43 | Fin | don't cry over spilt quiche, that's what I say |
| 14:45.48 | Punkie` | What's it like compared to bt3 on ptr? |
| 14:45.50 | Stylpe | ckknight: Are you here? |
| 14:46.00 | Kilroo | Also, can you really spill quiche? |
| 14:46.02 | Fin | I haven't tried bt3 on ptr |
| 14:46.10 | Fin | I'm not sure |
| 14:46.14 | Punkie` | ok so what's it like on ptr? |
| 14:46.16 | Punkie` | :D |
| 14:46.21 | Bam__ | im not eating the quiche if it's been cried over |
| 14:46.29 | Fin | it's been a good maxim for me so far though, no point in giving it up now |
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| 14:46.51 | Fin | words to live by don't come by very often you know |
| 14:47.00 | Punkie` | nevcairiel!! |
| 14:47.16 | Megalon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZEGsnWZKh8 |
| 14:47.23 | Megalon | nice children tvshow |
| 14:47.23 | Megalon | :> |
| 14:47.38 | Bam__ | InfiniBar is nice... just still a bit of a pain to setup if you have many stances |
| 14:47.59 | Stylpe | Anyone know ckknight's preferred way of receiving questions? IRC Monologues? Trac feature/bug requests? IM? Mail? |
| 14:48.04 | Punkie` | how many is many? |
| 14:48.08 | Stylpe | *long questions |
| 14:48.10 | Punkie` | like, more than 1? |
| 14:48.18 | Fin | Bam__: oh really, it's a pain is it? gah! |
| 14:48.26 | Bam__ | Fin lol sorry |
| 14:48.29 | Megalon | (stances)+ = many |
| 14:48.31 | Megalon | :< |
| 14:48.34 | Fin | good thing it's not quiche, that's all I can say |
| 14:48.38 | Fin | Bam__: :) |
| 14:48.51 | Punkie` | Fin, your misfortune grows more and more funny by the minute :D |
| 14:48.52 | Punkie` | muahhaa |
| 14:48.54 | Bam__ | dunno... but my druid sure took some time to get right |
| 14:49.06 | Punkie` | by the way, remember to reloadUI after each button |
| 14:49.09 | Punkie` | ;D |
| 14:49.24 | Fin | Stylpe: forum posts, IRC discussions, and email I'd say, not in that order |
| 14:50.04 | Punkie` | :( |
| 14:50.23 | Punkie` | Man, it's still lame how I got banned from my realm's IRC channel :( |
| 14:50.38 | Bam__ | heh.. what did you do? |
| 14:50.44 | Kilroo | I think my guild disappeared while I was away... |
| 14:51.12 | Punkie` | Me and another guidlie stood on the aldor bankers in those bubbles from blades edge mountains |
| 14:51.17 | Kilroo | It's hard to be sure, because the description of a spell in the game contains the name of the guild, which makes it really hard to google. |
| 14:51.31 | Punkie` | so you couldnt click them unless you were really zoomed in, or smart enough to enable nameplates |
| 14:51.58 | Punkie` | and it turns out, the owner of my realms IRC both, can't take a joke and is an aldor |
| 14:52.17 | Bam__ | abuse of power! |
| 14:52.19 | Megalon | haha |
| 14:52.37 | Megalon | Punkie`: that reminds of something i did with a friends in orgrimmar |
| 14:52.42 | Megalon | both tauren |
| 14:52.48 | Punkie` | yeah :D |
| 14:52.50 | Bam__ | hmm wonder if my realm has an IRC... |
| 14:52.50 | Megalon | wie mounted and blocked the mailbox |
| 14:52.56 | Megalon | at the bank in Orgrimmar |
| 14:53.02 | Punkie` | haha megalon :D |
| 14:53.10 | Megalon | the whisper were so ... |
| 14:53.11 | Megalon | :D |
| 14:53.15 | Fin | that's really annoying |
| 14:53.17 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 14:53.18 | Megalon | we even got a huge flamethread in the realmforum |
| 14:53.19 | Gngsk | cuz that's like, the only mailbox in org! |
| 14:53.19 | Megalon | :DDDD |
| 14:53.39 | Punkie` | I think we got like, at least 20 GM tickets |
| 14:53.58 | Punkie` | Stood there right at the start of the average raidtime too :P |
| 14:54.10 | Punkie` | 19.00 gametime :P |
| 14:54.25 | Punkie` | But it was a Scryer quest, just like we poisoned soup :o |
| 14:54.32 | CIA-23 | 03ag * r34790 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Removed string width slider. Found better way to size them for ABF which renders them obsolete |
| 14:56.35 | Kilroo | ok, let's see. 6 addons out of date, one missing dependency, 3 incompatible. Not bad out of like 65. |
| 14:57.15 | Punkie` | still pretty bad |
| 14:57.30 | Kilroo | When I haven't played in over a year? |
| 14:57.57 | Fin | after updating? |
| 14:58.00 | Kilroo | And I'm starting over from scratch? And collected most of the ones I intend to try...um...two weeks ago? |
| 14:58.12 | Fin | I was going to say |
| 14:58.37 | Kilroo | I wonder how I managed to be missing a dependency for KC_Items. |
| 14:58.37 | Fin | 6 addons out of date after a year off isn't "not bad", it's lying |
| 14:59.37 | Megalon | perhaps he checked "load outdated addons" :P |
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| 15:00.42 | Stylpe | Haha, I forget, do I have to use == for comparison in Lua? =P |
| 15:00.49 | Megalon | yes |
| 15:00.54 | kenlyric | kc items uses ace, not ace2 |
| 15:00.58 | Stylpe | thanks |
| 15:02.15 | Megalon | as '=' would be an assignment, at thats true when the left side is a valid variable |
| 15:02.45 | Megalon | and* :C |
| 15:02.45 | CIA-23 | 03mikk * r34791 10Baggins_GarbageFu/: Baggins_GarbageFu: Adds FuBar_GarbageFu drop/keep filters to Baggins rules |
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| 15:11.29 | Fin | http://pgl.yoyo.org/i/luai/operators |
| 15:11.45 | Fin | or http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/2.5.2+Relational+Operators more specifically |
| 15:12.01 | Kilroo | This is an awesome warning. |
| 15:12.03 | Kilroo | This mod requires the 2.0 patch (12/5/06 on enUS servers). Do not attempt to install this on an earlier client or the mod will explode. |
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| 15:12.39 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 15:12.53 | Mikk1 | Grr someone's squatting my name |
| 15:13.00 | Fin | mm |
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| 15:14.16 | Mikk | Pwnd teh bastidh |
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| 15:15.07 | Mikk | Tho I suppose I should have asked him kindly to switch before I just booted him off :> |
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| 15:16.48 | Kilroo | Aw poopy. I didn't notice TransporterFu wasn't updated for 2.0 yet. |
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| 15:21.03 | Kilroo | Ok, I think I've more or less found answers...if not solutions...to most of these. But...anybody know of a good working instant damage addon? |
| 15:21.26 | Kilroo | apparently Advanced Weapon Stats is currently incompatible. |
| 15:21.26 | Punkie` | what's an instant damage addon, sorry |
| 15:21.27 | kenlyric | how did you even got a mod that wasn't 2.0 compliant? |
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| 15:21.43 | kenlyric | direct from the SVN, I guess. |
| 15:22.31 | Punkie` | what's the website for the blizzard default codage? :) |
| 15:22.39 | Kilroo | Ken: I wasn't paying attention. I knew I wanted InnBound or something like it, because I considered it almost an essential before, so I downloaded TransporterFu from WoWI without looking for the THIS WORKS WITH 2.0. |
| 15:23.11 | Kilroo | Punkie: Addon that lets me compare which dagger will get me the better ambushes and backstabs, essentially. |
| 15:23.24 | Punkie` | ok |
| 15:23.34 | Kilroo | Instant strike damage calculator I guess. |
| 15:23.38 | Punkie` | what you do is you add the top damage and the bottom damage together |
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| 15:23.41 | Punkie` | then divide by 2 |
| 15:23.57 | Mikk | yeah, i do that in my head :S |
| 15:24.20 | Kilroo | ...Instant Strike damage only depends on the actual weapon damage now? |
| 15:24.24 | Mikk | correct |
| 15:24.29 | Mikk | the *speed shit was removed |
| 15:24.31 | Punkie` | It's normalized yes |
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| 15:24.35 | Kilroo | Oh. |
| 15:25.11 | Punkie` | Yeah, no more barman shanker ownage :D |
| 15:25.13 | Mikk | Well, having the speed affect the damage _twice_ never made sense to me either way =P |
| 15:25.27 | Kilroo | So the only thing that would make any additional difference is my weapon skills? Or are there talents that I need to keep an eye on? |
| 15:25.42 | Punkie` | Weapon skill is pretty worthless compared to other stats now |
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| 15:25.45 | Mikk | There's lots of talents that affect the damage of your instants |
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| 15:26.04 | Kilroo | But do they depend on weapon type, is what I meant, Mikk. |
| 15:26.17 | Mikk | Sort of |
| 15:26.21 | Laric | wich is the current ptr build? |
| 15:26.29 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
| 15:26.35 | Mikk | I mean, you have the crit chance increase of some weapons, for instance |
| 15:26.40 | Mikk | (Combat tree) |
| 15:26.48 | Mikk | Of course if you're not speccing combat that doesn't apply at all |
| 15:27.05 | Kilroo | I think I probably don't need the addon anymore then. |
| 15:27.11 | Mikk | Prolly not no |
| 15:27.24 | Kilroo | I have to respec, of course, but I'm still planning on stealth/crit/stunlock. |
| 15:27.41 | CIA-23 | 03bam 07dataminer * r34794 10ItemPrice-1.0/ (getlatest.lua items.csv): |
| 15:27.41 | CIA-23 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 15:27.41 | CIA-23 | - Improved use of wowhead search |
| 15:27.41 | CIA-23 | - Price updates |
| 15:27.47 | Mikk | Sounds like a non-combat build yeah :> |
| 15:28.01 | Punkie` | Kilroo, you should try a few things out |
| 15:28.09 | Punkie` | Rogues have changed a little since a year ago |
| 15:28.20 | Punkie` | I really enjoy mutilate personally |
| 15:28.43 | Mikk | Mmm.. mutilate and envenom can do lololol? numbers in the right circumstances |
| 15:28.49 | Mikk | Envenom perhaps not so much in pvp |
| 15:28.58 | haste | I don't like envenom on my rogue |
| 15:29.05 | haste | mostly because it consumes the deadly poison stack |
| 15:29.08 | Mikma | i don't like your rogue |
| 15:29.10 | Mikk | It's.... situational yeah |
| 15:29.23 | haste | and in most cases, you'll loose DPS from that |
| 15:29.27 | Mikk | And sucks utter arse in e.g. Karazhan where everything is poison immune |
| 15:29.32 | Kilroo | Let's see...AuctionSort doesn't appear to have an update...nor EQCompare, PerformanceFu, SpeedFu...I need to find a replacement for TransporterFu if at all possible...WhatsUpFu is no longer relevant...Hemlock and Tinypad don't seem to have updates available and I got the dependency I was missing (I think) for KCI. |
| 15:29.36 | Gngsk | first boss of black morass is vulnerable to poison |
| 15:29.41 | Gngsk | had like a 3.5k envenom crit on him |
| 15:30.21 | Mikk | Kilroo: Just install WoWAceUpdater |
| 15:30.29 | Mikk | Hit "upgrade". Grab coffee. |
| 15:30.30 | Kilroo | Been using it. |
| 15:30.44 | Punkie` | Envenom is a complete finisher only |
| 15:30.52 | CIA-23 | 03bam * r34795 10ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0.lua: |
| 15:30.52 | CIA-23 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 15:30.52 | CIA-23 | - Price updates |
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| 15:31.18 | Punkie` | Highest I've had on envenom was like 4.2k, stormstrike though |
| 15:31.46 | Gngsk | yeah, this was back when tbc was still new |
| 15:31.55 | Gngsk | sure you could get like 5k on that guy with stormstrike and the right build |
| 15:32.19 | Punkie` | yeah, mine was a few weeks ago |
| 15:32.22 | Punkie` | rarely use it |
| 15:32.34 | Kilroo | Unfortunately I don't see how I'm going to find a replacement for TransporterFu if neither that nor InnBound is updated to 2.0... |
| 15:32.37 | Punkie` | only when I know something is going to die |
| 15:32.42 | Mikk | Oh, of course, one thing about Envenom: It actually does sane damage on mobs with gobs of armor. :> |
| 15:32.54 | deltron | i love envenom |
| 15:32.55 | Gngsk | yeah, it's nice against warriors/bares in pvp |
| 15:33.00 | deltron | envenom is ftw |
| 15:33.11 | Fin | hah |
| 15:33.15 | Fin | *saved* |
| 15:33.26 | Gngsk | wtg! |
| 15:34.00 | Fin | cheers, everyone! |
| 15:34.11 | Punkie` | Kilroo: Try FuBar_InnboundFu |
| 15:34.39 | Mikk | I just use AutoBar |
| 15:34.48 | Mikk | Has hearthstone/teleports/portals in the first button > |
| 15:35.05 | Punkie` | same here |
| 15:35.48 | Punkie` | can you oneclick cast poisons from pt3 bar? |
| 15:36.29 | Kilroo | I think if I can't have a display in my FuBar that shows me both cooldown and location at a glance, I probably might as well just have my hearthstone on a regular old button. |
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| 15:37.28 | Punkie` | dude, i just pointed you to innboundfu |
| 15:37.40 | Kilroo | And if I can't click on the fubar entry to use it, which it appears I can't in InnBound, then again, I might as well use a button. Sorry, didn't mention I'd looked at that one already. |
| 15:37.44 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1178638548459.jpg <-omg i solved the mystery of the century!!!!!! |
| 15:37.53 | Kilroo | Or is the part about not being able to click it to hearth outdated? |
| 15:38.13 | Kilroo | Fisker, wtf? |
| 15:38.23 | Bam__ | what mystery? Art? |
| 15:38.32 | Punkie` | That's really awesome, Fisker- |
| 15:38.49 | Fisker- | you can't connect 3x3 points in 2d |
| 15:39.03 | Fisker- | But i can! |
| 15:39.03 | Fisker- | With portals |
| 15:39.22 | Megalon | hm yea |
| 15:39.34 | Megalon | you can't have full 3,3 or 5 graphs |
| 15:40.18 | Fisker- | omg n00bs you're not thinking with portals! |
| 15:40.41 | Bam__ | the blue portal.. is that the sewer? |
| 15:40.58 | Fisker- | no |
| 15:41.03 | Fisker- | portals are red and blue |
| 15:41.40 | CIA-23 | 03ag * r34796 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files): |
| 15:41.40 | CIA-23 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 15:41.40 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.40 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.19 | Megalon | but.. the red portal leads to baal!!11 |
| 15:42.24 | Megalon | and the blue one is a townportal |
| 15:42.25 | Megalon | :( |
| 15:42.46 | Megalon | this does not make sence fisker! |
| 15:42.52 | Fisker- | yes it does |
| 15:42.59 | Fisker- | Think with portals you idiot! |
| 15:43.29 | Megalon | i can portal my taurenhoof into your face! |
| 15:43.46 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb7aDZeO_MQ |
| 15:43.48 | Fisker- | learn2portal |
| 15:43.49 | phyber | why are we thinking with portals now, was it released? |
| 15:43.58 | Fisker- | nope :( |
| 15:44.06 | phyber | can I portal my first to valve and slap the guy to make him work faster? |
| 15:44.16 | Fisker- | it's technically done |
| 15:44.22 | phyber | perhaps hand him some caffeine. |
| 15:44.28 | moonsorrow | ckknight: after being debuffed by poison, my player frame stays green after the debuff is removed |
| 15:45.29 | ven | yeah, I had that with curses, too |
| 15:45.39 | ven | I just disabled player frame highlighting |
| 15:45.40 | ven | :o |
| 15:50.48 | Mikk | Kilroo: No, you can't have clickable fubar tablets that result in spellcasts, because, frankly, ckknight is being an arse about integrating that in fubar |
| 15:51.15 | Mikk | It's a limitation placed on the UI as of 2.0 that requires you to jump through some hoops to accomplish it. |
| 15:51.37 | Kilroo | Ah. |
| 15:52.24 | Mikk | (Specifically, you have to have your frames be "actionbuttons" with special attributes set. But, alas, fubar tablets are not actionbuttons, and ck refuses to make them so) |
| 15:53.17 | Kilroo | Can InnBound hearth you through a menu pulled down from it or anything, or is it purely the location and cooldown display? The entry on WoWI isn't exactly clear on that. |
| 15:53.18 | Bam__ | they only really need to inherit from the secure template |
| 15:53.36 | deltron | http://consumerist.com/consumer/marketing/funeral-home-offers-discount-for-sams-club-members-257898.php <-- that is the sams club I go to lmao |
| 15:53.59 | Mikk | Bam__: and you need to have some way of manipulating the attributes from the tablet object |
| 15:54.05 | Kilroo | I suspect what I just said made less sense than I originally intended... |
| 15:54.24 | Bam__ | yes, I just mean they don't have to be actionbuttons as such |
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| 15:54.34 | Bam__ | but yes it's a pain |
| 15:54.35 | Mikk | yeah, pardon, i was over simplifying =) |
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| 15:57.25 | ag` | Mikk: If setting the tablets to action buttons doesn't have any effects on any current functionality, I can't see why you couldn't change it on the SVN |
| 15:57.47 | Mikk | mostly because ck doesn't want it :> |
| 15:58.07 | ag` | hm, reasoning being? |
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| 15:58.15 | Bam__ | do you have the code for it already? |
| 15:58.23 | yacoob | *blink* |
| 15:58.34 | Mikk | no. changing the tablet in and of itself would be easy. but then you'd have to add methods to manipulate the attributes |
| 15:58.37 | yacoob | for a second I wondered why Mikma lost 'ma' and duplicated his 'k' :) |
| 15:59.08 | Kilroo | Hmm, I'm missing a dependency for AceGUI now. |
| 15:59.16 | Bam__ | well I suppose you could make a branch and show how to do it... might be a way to convince ck :) |
| 15:59.34 | Fin | branch! |
| 15:59.36 | Fin | branch! |
| 15:59.50 | Fin | that's what SVN repositories are for |
| 15:59.58 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 16:00.00 | purl | it has been said that mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 16:00.19 | Bam__ | heh |
| 16:00.22 | Kilroo | ~Kilroo |
| 16:00.32 | Fin | Mikk: you make WoW related graphics professionally? |
| 16:01.29 | Mikk | Ah, no, not professionally |
| 16:01.45 | Bam__ | ohhh so it's free! |
| 16:01.48 | Mikk | Yus |
| 16:02.07 | Mikk | I've done a smattering of icons, outlines, ... stuff. |
| 16:02.16 | Fin | so do you have a website or something? |
| 16:02.17 | Mikk | Bunch of stuff for wowwiki too |
| 16:02.26 | Mikk | haha no |
| 16:02.34 | Mikk | hmm se |
| 16:02.35 | Mikk | c |
| 16:02.46 | Fin | oh well |
| 16:02.52 | CIA-23 | 03ag * r34797 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: bugfix |
| 16:03.12 | Fisker- | Boubouille lolwut |
| 16:03.23 | Bam__ | as long as you draw better than Fisker :D |
| 16:03.42 | Fin | ie, you have opposable thumbs |
| 16:03.59 | Bam__ | and only two of them |
| 16:05.04 | Fin | Bambam was my favourite character in the Flintstones |
| 16:05.08 | Fin | Bam is a great word |
| 16:05.15 | Bam__ | :P |
| 16:05.39 | Bam__ | it's got a long story to it... from I was 1 year old :P |
| 16:05.52 | Bam__ | unfortunately it's very often taken in games and stuff |
| 16:05.56 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Silly.png http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Bull3t-char.png http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Patch.png http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Wikignome.png <- wow collage + touchup things i've done for wowwiki |
| 16:06.03 | Mikk | plus i did the wowwiki logo on the front page |
| 16:06.07 | Mikk | and hummmm lessee |
| 16:06.18 | Bam__ | hmm they are not displaying |
| 16:06.23 | Mikk | o.O |
| 16:06.32 | Bam__ | well can click on them |
| 16:06.59 | Bam__ | very nice :) |
| 16:07.14 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Classes.png <- Heroes of WoW ripoff ftw =P |
| 16:08.08 | Mikk | Ah, well, blah... I'm just announcing my availabilty to do misc pixelwork for addons with that message really |
| 16:08.25 | Mikk | Not everyone likes toying with graphics software and coverting files |
| 16:08.29 | Mikk | converting* |
| 16:08.39 | Bam__ | definitely appreciated I'd think.. not many have got those talents :) |
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| 16:09.47 | Bam__ | hehe nice :) |
| 16:10.03 | Kilroo | Hehe, I'm so inept. |
| 16:10.57 | Kilroo | I've caused Cartographer to explode into a bunch of extra directories that it appears used to be inside the main Cartographer directory...I'm not entirely sure how...and I still have a dependency missing for AceGUI. |
| 16:11.05 | Kilroo | And I'm not sure what one has to do with the other. |
| 16:11.13 | [Ammo] | the carto thing is innocent |
| 16:11.14 | [Ammo] | makes it LoD |
| 16:11.19 | [Ammo] | aka only loading stuff you need when you need it |
| 16:11.23 | Kilroo | Ah. |
| 16:11.44 | Kilroo | Ok, that's a good thing. I wish it didn't make it harder to read the directory, but it is a good thing. |
| 16:12.34 | CIA-23 | 03kaiden * r34798 10SharedMedia_ExtrasPack_1/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:12.34 | CIA-23 | SharedMedia_ExtrasPack_1: initial commit |
| 16:12.34 | CIA-23 | - A growing library of extra fonts/statusbars for SharedMedias system |
| 16:12.42 | Kilroo | Does that mean I can get rid of directories that should never have anything to do with me? Such as Mining and Herbalism? |
| 16:12.49 | Mikk | Yes |
| 16:13.01 | Bam__ | but there is no need to really |
| 16:13.12 | Kilroo | y. |
| 16:13.16 | Kilroo | er. |
| 16:13.18 | Kilroo | Mkay. |
| 16:13.26 | Bam__ | well unless they confuse you :P |
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| 16:15.31 | Kilroo | ...Except...those appear to be where they're supposed to be. |
| 16:15.50 | Kilroo | I believe I officially don't get it. |
| 16:15.52 | Mikk | Install Ace2 as a standalone lib |
| 16:15.56 | Mikk | If you didn't already that is |
| 16:16.01 | Kilroo | that's done. |
| 16:16.03 | Mikk | eek |
| 16:16.08 | Mikk | ok umm... |
| 16:16.09 | Mikk | afk :P |
| 16:16.24 | Kilroo | I think. |
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| 16:17.25 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 16:17.32 | [Ammo] | you |
| 16:17.34 | [Ammo] | suck |
| 16:17.50 | [Ammo] | bend over funkeh |
| 16:17.58 | [Ammo] | I think vhaarr wants to spank you silly |
| 16:18.00 | Funkeh` | :o |
| 16:18.11 | Funkeh` | no more cookies for him |
| 16:18.13 | [Ammo] | deleting tabletbars |
| 16:18.17 | [Ammo] | bad bad funkeh |
| 16:18.30 | Funkeh` | its not deleted, it tagged ;) |
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| 16:18.37 | [Ammo] | I suggest undoing that change |
| 16:18.58 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 16:19.03 | [Ammo] | before vhaarr gets to you |
| 16:19.05 | Kilroo | ugh |
| 16:19.10 | Kilroo | lunch now, KC_Items later. |
| 16:19.41 | Fisker- | my cat hates you [Ammo] :( |
| 16:21.08 | kaiden | quick newbie svn question, once i have included my externals do i recommit with them included? or will the server continuously block the externals |
| 16:21.50 | Chompers | i need your opinions |
| 16:22.15 | Mikk | kaiden: you don't commit the externals themselves |
| 16:22.19 | Chompers | vanquishers legplates dropped, i rolled for them, the paladin wanted them too |
| 16:22.26 | Fisker- | awesome! |
| 16:22.30 | Chompers | does anyone deserve them more? |
| 16:22.33 | Funkeh` | paladins get your loot |
| 16:22.35 | Mikk | you only commit the property change to your "libs" folder where you set the "external" attribute |
| 16:22.40 | pastamancer | they're obviously hunter loot |
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| 16:22.47 | Funkeh` | the same way shadow priests get your shadow damage loot |
| 16:23.32 | Fisker- | retribution paladins pwn |
| 16:24.43 | Chompers | yeah, i was happy to roll with him |
| 16:24.54 | Chompers | but he went into a tantrum and hearthed out |
| 16:25.01 | Fisker- | :o |
| 16:25.11 | Chompers | well geared pally too, damn fine healing |
| 16:25.17 | Fisker- | I'm GTFO my healing gear and i'll only roll on dps gear when noone needs |
| 16:25.25 | Chompers | in a good guild too |
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| 16:25.39 | CIA-23 | 03kaiden * r34799 10SharedMedia_ExtrasPack_1/: |
| 16:25.39 | CIA-23 | SharedMedia_ExtrasPack_1: |
| 16:25.39 | CIA-23 | - Commiting for SVN property change to include externals |
| 16:25.49 | Chompers | oh well, i got my nether, so im happy :D |
| 16:25.57 | kaiden | hrmph hope that worked lol |
| 16:26.02 | Mikk | i'll check |
| 16:26.48 | kaiden | bleh, the properties are setup right in tortoise when i do an update it pulls down the libs folder fine, but it times out when trying to propogate back up to the svn to tell it what externals to include |
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| 16:28.19 | Funkeh` | [Ammo] are you recieving my msg's? |
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| 16:31.25 | Kaelten | good morning guys |
| 16:31.29 | Funkeh` | heya |
| 16:31.36 | Funkeh` | how are you? |
| 16:31.42 | Kaelten | well, you ? |
| 16:31.56 | Funkeh` | im good, thanks |
| 16:32.04 | Kaelten | glad to hear it :) |
| 16:32.49 | Fisker- | morning omg |
| 16:33.33 | Mikk | ~ugt |
| 16:33.44 | purl | ugt is probably Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 16:34.27 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 16:34.34 | Kaelten | well I'm in cali now, so its morning for me :) |
| 16:34.40 | Mikk | oh |
| 16:34.46 | Mikk | ignore me then. you're just a bastard :> |
| 16:35.03 | Kaelten | ya, most likely :) |
| 16:35.03 | vhaarr | kaiden: just put your stuff in SharedMedia, please. |
| 16:35.06 | vhaarr | hey kael |
| 16:35.07 | Kaelten | but ugt to you too |
| 16:35.23 | Kaelten | hiya vhaar |
| 16:35.23 | Kaelten | r |
| 16:35.23 | vhaarr | kaiden: and delete your SharedMedia_ExtrasPack_1 |
| 16:35.43 | kaiden | vhaarr, i tried and it wouldn't let me update it, sorry fairly new to the whole svn thing :P |
| 16:35.46 | kaiden | i'll try again i guess |
| 16:35.51 | vhaarr | please do |
| 16:35.59 | kenlyric | yeah, UGT is older than that. We just didn't call it UGT. we just called it channel time. |
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| 16:36.12 | Fisker- | Elkano |
| 16:36.17 | Fisker- | Your addon is a virus |
| 16:36.44 | Elkano | it's a special gift for you :) |
| 16:37.43 | Bam__ | he draws cartoons! |
| 16:38.00 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:38.11 | Fisker- | But for some reason EBBs eludes my deletion |
| 16:38.14 | CIA-23 | 03Octane666 * r34800 10SpamMeNot/ (Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc): |
| 16:38.14 | CIA-23 | SpamMeNot: |
| 16:38.14 | CIA-23 | - Hopefully fixed Main.lua:315 bug (although I was unable to replicate it) |
| 16:38.14 | CIA-23 | - SpamMeNot now defaults to NOT informing players that it's looking up their |
| 16:38.14 | CIA-23 | details. You can turn this on in the options if you want to do that. Existing |
| 16:38.15 | CIA-23 | SpamMeNot users probably won't notice a difference unless they restore their |
| 16:38.19 | CIA-23 | default settings. |
| 16:38.26 | Fisker- | I keep forgetting that WAU just downloads it again if i don't reload |
| 16:38.35 | Bam__ | now there's a commit message |
| 16:38.49 | kenlyric | Fisker-: yeah, that annoys me |
| 16:38.55 | kenlyric | uninstalling something should also uncheck it. |
| 16:39.52 | CIA-23 | 03mikk * r34801 10SharedMedia_ExtrasPack_1/: Integrating into SharedMedia instead |
| 16:39.59 | kenlyric | ADS logs suck, btw |
| 16:40.17 | Elkano | mikk Oo |
| 16:41.17 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34802 10BigWigs_TabletBars/: BigWigs_TabletBars: restored for continued dev |
| 16:41.19 | CIA-23 | 03elkano * r34803 10lern2count/Core.lua: lern2count: taking some global functions to a local scope |
| 16:41.37 | Elkano | expention packs don't make any sense with sharedmedia imho ;) |
| 16:41.50 | Mikk | no, hence the deletion =) |
| 16:42.05 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 16:42.14 | kaiden | Elkano, only did it because i kept having trouble when trying to update yours |
| 16:42.16 | kaiden | sorry |
| 16:43.12 | Elkano | bad boy... having trouble is not allowed in here ;) |
| 16:43.20 | kaiden | obviously so |
| 16:43.21 | kaiden | :P |
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| 16:46.58 | Elkano | ZOMG, Mikk is going emo... |
| 16:47.19 | Mikk | ... this is where someone's supposed to say "going?" |
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| 16:47.35 | Ominous | hey |
| 16:48.25 | Mikk | .... and an Ominous silence follows..... |
| 16:48.32 | Mikk | Argh, someone shoot me. |
| 16:48.32 | Ominous | :D |
| 16:48.51 | Ominous | can WUU split addons like WAU and can it do without externals? |
| 16:49.04 | Megalon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUMzit03cYk |
| 16:49.08 | Megalon | take this, emos! |
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| 16:50.34 | CIA-23 | 03kaiden * r34804 10SharedMedia/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:50.34 | CIA-23 | SharedMedia |
| 16:50.34 | CIA-23 | - Added BigNoodleTilting, Emblem to the font list and Rothar's flatter version of Smooth (Smoothv2) to the statusbar list. |
| 16:50.44 | moonsorrow | anyone knows if it possible to use the highlight in grid for displaying an indicator? |
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| 16:52.24 | Keita | will this "MyFrame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function() MyFrame:StartMoving() end)" will move with ne clik? If so, how can I only make it move with left click? |
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| 16:54.59 | Josh_Borke | MyFrame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function(thisFrame, button) if (button == "LeftButton") then MyFrame:StartMoving() end end) |
| 16:56.22 | Keita | thx a lot |
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| 16:56.22 | Elkano | Keita, almost, I use tabs instead of blanks ^^ |
| 16:57.12 | Elkano | btw: no addon is registering Smoothv2, yet or is there? else I'd suggest renaming it to "Smooth v2" |
| 16:58.51 | CIA-23 | 03ag * r34805 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: bugfix |
| 16:59.44 | Elkano | and the font is named without spaces in the ttf itself |
| 17:00.40 | Keita | I also have MyFrame:IsMovable(true), but I can seem to make it move, do I need ne other setting? I think I am missing a border or something that I can actually clik... :S |
| 17:01.16 | Elkano | well, you'll need to eg register a mouse button for drag and add drag handlers |
| 17:01.28 | Keita | i can't * |
| 17:01.42 | CIA-23 | 03elkano * r34806 10SharedMedia/SharedMedia.lua: SharedMedia - small adjusting of last commit |
| 17:02.14 | Bam__ | hope you have SetMovable(true) |
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| 17:04.49 | Saroz_ | does sproket still work? |
| 17:08.27 | Keita | ok, i will look further into it. thx a lot |
| 17:08.36 | Ominous | is anyone on the test realm who can use an addon for me and see how efficient it is? |
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| 17:17.15 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34807 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoadOnDemand: Revert until I can fix it properly. |
| 17:18.39 | Kilroo | Oh, THAT'S what it is. |
| 17:19.33 | Kilroo | I misread the bottom part. KC_Items doesn't use Ace2 yet apparently. |
| 17:19.55 | Kilroo | ...I think. |
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| 17:21.51 | Arrowmaster | theres a branch that does |
| 17:22.54 | Josh_Borke | Kilroo: there's a branch that does |
| 17:23.01 | Kilroo | That's what it sounded like, but I can't find it yet. Are people using it? Is it fairly stable? If people aren't using KC_Items what are they using instead? |
| 17:24.24 | Josh_Borke | it's fairly stable |
| 17:24.28 | Josh_Borke | only has auction related stuff in it |
| 17:24.46 | Josh_Borke | i wrote KC_Linkview but it's not ready for release and i've stopped working on it |
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| 17:27.37 | Kilroo | Well, I think the parts of the KC_Items functionality on which I used to rely are Auction, Sellvalue, possibly Broker, and presumably Tooltip, although Chatlink would be nice to have. |
| 17:29.32 | Kilroo | I think I shall try Omnibus and see if I prefer it to Tinypad. |
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| 17:31.04 | Arrowmaster | that was new |
| 17:31.17 | Arrowmaster | i just hit 600KB/s using the blizzard downloader |
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| 17:32.24 | Arrowmaster | oh wait now im down to 0KB/s even though the peers that sent me about 88% of this patch both have 100% completeion |
| 17:32.42 | kaiden | the wonderful world of p2p |
| 17:32.58 | Arrowmaster | no, the wonderful world of blizzard fucking up bittorrent |
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| 17:33.58 | Kilroo | Ok, I suspect that I do not comprehend enough of what I am doing at the moment... |
| 17:34.22 | Arrowmaster | what are you doing? |
| 17:34.36 | Kilroo | I have found the KC_Items for Ace2. |
| 17:35.04 | Kilroo | But there are three directories here and I'm not sure what they mean. |
| 17:35.20 | deltron | patch day today? |
| 17:35.30 | Arrowmaster | doubtful |
| 17:35.36 | Arrowmaster | im trying to get on the ptr |
| 17:35.36 | Fisker- | no |
| 17:35.41 | Bruners | I hope not |
| 17:35.43 | deltron | ah |
| 17:35.43 | Arrowmaster | ptr still up means no patch |
| 17:36.00 | Fisker- | Probably gonna take them 2-3 weeks more |
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| 17:36.19 | Bam__ | that long? |
| 17:36.25 | deltron | i saw they had an event the other day |
| 17:36.31 | deltron | but i guess they aren't taking it down |
| 17:36.34 | Arrowmaster | everytime they patch the ptr it means theres atleast 1 more week until it goes live |
| 17:36.34 | Fisker- | Bam__ can you login on the EU servers? |
| 17:36.45 | undu | ARROWMASTER: |
| 17:36.45 | Bam__ | Fisker-: havent tried |
| 17:36.57 | undu | Restarting the blizzard downloader usually works. |
| 17:37.13 | undu | Gives youa couple of percent every time you restart. Worked for me yesterday. |
| 17:37.18 | undu | Downloaded 90% stopped. |
| 17:37.21 | Arrowmaster | if i wasnt lazy i would just open them in my normal torrent client |
| 17:37.22 | undu | REstarted, gave me another 5% |
| 17:37.26 | Bam__ | Fisker-: nope.. stops on Authenticating it seems :( |
| 17:37.27 | undu | Restarted and gave me the final 5%. |
| 17:37.39 | Fisker- | bah |
| 17:37.43 | Fisker- | login server down |
| 17:37.58 | undu | I mean, I think they just delay it on purpose so more people get the benefit of your upload or something. |
| 17:38.07 | undu | And by restarting it you bypass that temporarily. |
| 17:38.08 | kaiden | i should order groceries and have them deliver them.. i need drinks (i'm lazy) LOL |
| 17:38.51 | Arrowmaster | its something weird with the blizzard downloader, during one of the preloaded patches that was a few hundred megs i opened it in my normal torrent client and got like 10kb/s from every single peer |
| 17:38.59 | Arrowmaster | went super fast |
| 17:39.01 | deltron | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/08/the-gold-spam-drinking-game/ lmao |
| 17:39.24 | CIA-23 | 03jerry * r34809 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: fix deutch locale |
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| 17:43.23 | sbu | hm any working login server? |
| 17:43.30 | deltron | seems down |
| 17:43.30 | sbu | another ip? |
| 17:43.38 | deltron | that's what they're reporting on #wow on efnet |
| 17:43.41 | deltron | eu? |
| 17:43.44 | sbu | yep eu |
| 17:43.56 | Bam__ | isn't there only one login server? |
| 17:43.57 | deltron | yeah they can't get in |
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| 17:44.08 | chutwig | US login servers are fine |
| 17:44.13 | chutwig | sucks to be a socialist america hater! |
| 17:44.17 | deltron | isn't it patch day? |
| 17:44.21 | deltron | or down day |
| 17:44.24 | chutwig | they just did rolling restarts |
| 17:44.28 | chutwig | at least for US servers |
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| 17:44.37 | Bam__ | not a socialist please :P |
| 17:44.45 | chutwig | it looks like they've pushed the last of the epic item changes to PTR though |
| 17:44.49 | Kilroo | Ok, who wants to explain to the confused SVN n00b whether he can actually get hold of the Ace2 version of KC_Items without downloading every file individually here? |
| 17:44.57 | chutwig | so i would expect release next week or the week after that at the latest |
| 17:45.15 | Bam__ | hmm lots of speculation lol |
| 17:45.30 | chutwig | crazy changes |
| 17:45.37 | chutwig | my shadow damage will be breaking 1200 with just fel armor |
| 17:45.41 | chutwig | nerfffff |
| 17:45.56 | chutwig | and give me back my old corruption and CoA coefficients :( |
| 17:47.54 | Kaelten | Kilroo: hrm? |
| 17:48.12 | Kilroo | Oh, hi, Kaelten. |
| 17:48.12 | Kaelten | svn co http://svn.wowace.com/branches/ ..... |
| 17:48.16 | Kaelten | ect |
| 17:48.35 | Kaelten | or if you have tortise you can use it |
| 17:49.39 | Kilroo | Yes, I'm sitting at http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/branches/KC_Items?order=name now, and trying to figure out what the folders from there mean, and whether or not I can download the whole thing at--I just saw the "Download in other formats" part. |
| 17:49.45 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34810 10Aloft/ (Aloft.toc Modules/PetOwnersNameData.lua): |
| 17:49.45 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 17:49.45 | CIA-23 | - Added PetOwnersName data source and tag. For advanced users at the moment, as there's no UI to configure iet apart from tags |
| 17:49.45 | Kilroo | I missed that before. |
| 17:50.56 | Kaelten | basically you want to checkout out http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/KC_Items/Ace2/KC_Items/ using a svn client |
| 17:51.05 | Kaelten | if you're using command line its svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/KC_Items/Ace2/KC_Items/ KC_Items |
| 17:51.22 | Kaelten | if you're using toritse just make the directory and right click on it and check out http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/KC_Items/Ace2/KC_Items/ |
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| 17:52.22 | Kilroo | I figured out how to get it now. Thank you. :-) |
| 17:52.28 | Kaelten | :) |
| 17:52.50 | Kaelten | its still not as full featured as the last one was but I just havn't had time to work on it |
| 17:52.56 | Kilroo | I wish I could remember for sure what my first Ace addon was. |
| 17:53.03 | Kilroo | I'm pretty sure it was OneBag. |
| 17:53.06 | Kaelten | I keep having to prioritize stuff up past it |
| 17:53.10 | Kaelten | hehe thats one of mind too :) |
| 17:53.10 | Kilroo | But I'm not 100% positive. |
| 17:53.17 | Kilroo | Yeah, I know. |
| 17:53.41 | Kaelten | :) |
| 17:54.34 | Kilroo | I think what happened was I'd been using...I think it was some addon that was similar to OneBag and AllInOneInventory but not either of those...and then I tried OneBag...and then I looked to see who wrote it and what else they had written, found the Kael Cycle, and followed that trail to Ace. |
| 17:54.47 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:54.53 | Kilroo | And so began the Great Replacing. |
| 17:55.01 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 17:55.04 | chutwig | a cosmic event |
| 17:55.11 | Kaelten | seems to be a popular process |
| 17:55.13 | chutwig | that would be destined to shake the fortunes of men |
| 17:55.21 | chutwig | i did the same thing |
| 17:55.29 | Kaelten | although don't rule out non ace addons just because there are some good one sout there. |
| 17:55.30 | Kilroo | The most drastic part was probably the change directly from Discord Action Bars to...Visor. |
| 17:55.33 | chutwig | now i have sw_stats and KTM but i think those are my only two non-ace addons |
| 17:55.49 | chutwig | i don't even remember what i used to use so obviously i don't miss them |
| 17:56.00 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:56.08 | Saroz_ | just need vhaarr and ammo to fix Violation |
| 17:56.11 | Kaelten | I'm looking forward to having KCI1.0 finished and then OneBag3 |
| 17:56.47 | Bruners | is there somekind of notepad mod in ace |
| 17:56.54 | chutwig | omnibus |
| 17:56.58 | Kaelten | hrm I know there used to be but I honestly use tinypad |
| 17:57.01 | Kaelten | omnibus? |
| 17:57.04 | Kaelten | havn't tried that one. |
| 17:57.12 | Saroz_ | ace has one problem |
| 17:57.12 | chutwig | i thought it was a notepad mod, at least |
| 17:57.15 | Saroz_ | noone can find mods they need |
| 17:57.18 | Saroz_ | all have odd names |
| 17:57.39 | Kaelten | Saroz_: hehe, next major version of wau will have a search feature |
| 17:57.52 | Kilroo | I believe my non-Ace addons (I'm starting over from scratch for my TBC trial) are: EasyUnlock, MSBT, MobMap, SW_Stats, and TinyPad. |
| 17:58.01 | Arrowmaster | Saroz_: all the simple names are already taken |
| 17:58.11 | Kaelten | and I'm thinking about enhancing the files.wowace.com view as well |
| 17:58.17 | Kilroo | So like...five out of about sixty? |
| 17:58.23 | Arrowmaster | easyunlock still works? |
| 17:58.23 | Bruners | with !!!SL i should update with or without externals? |
| 17:58.29 | Arrowmaster | without |
| 17:58.32 | Kaelten | bruners without |
| 17:59.13 | Kilroo | Arrowmaster: It's a modified version of EasyUnlock that requires more clicks than the old one. |
| 17:59.16 | Kilroo | I think. |
| 17:59.40 | Kilroo | Wups, I forgot Lightheaded. |
| 17:59.57 | Kilroo | I thought I'd try Lightheaded and MobMap and see if they felt like a waste. |
| 18:00.07 | Arrowmaster | i need to slap somebody to get mendeleev/pt3 to display lockbox skill requirements again |
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| 18:00.18 | Kaelten | I'm thinking of adding categories into OneBag |
| 18:00.21 | Kaelten | any feedback? |
| 18:00.28 | Kilroo | Yes. |
| 18:00.30 | Kilroo | Explain. |
| 18:00.43 | Kaelten | kilroo me? |
| 18:00.51 | Kilroo | Yes. What kind of categories? |
| 18:01.07 | Kilroo | Would this be a sort of Onebaggins development? |
| 18:01.16 | Kaelten | customizable cateogires based on item types. |
| 18:01.18 | Kaelten | kinda |
| 18:01.27 | Arrowmaster | if you add categories its perty much going to become a completely different mod |
| 18:01.35 | kenlyric | can I get something where it won't open every fucking bagmod I have? |
| 18:01.38 | kenlyric | that's all I want? |
| 18:01.56 | Kaelten | thanks to pprovost I discovered that my code was already setup to allow for categories |
| 18:01.58 | kenlyric | I get baggins, it opens baggins and onebag. I get sanity bags, it opens sanity bags and onebag. |
| 18:02.23 | Kaelten | I just have to split a sliver off into a seperate function and then that function will allow me to control whatever I want |
| 18:02.41 | Ominous | if it wont affect preformance go for it |
| 18:02.55 | Kaelten | nope shouldn't |
| 18:02.58 | Kilroo | Is Sanity Bags the one that's sort of like Baggins except they're all lumped together in one superframe instead of being separated? |
| 18:03.11 | kebinusan | Id certainly give it a whirl kaelten |
| 18:03.23 | Kaelten | not much anyway, and when you're in regular mode it wouldn't impact you at all |
| 18:03.32 | kenlyric | sanity bags just seems like onebag with smarter sorting options. |
| 18:03.44 | Ominous | kaelten: then have fun :) |
| 18:03.46 | phyber | is PitBull's configuration mode broken or do I just not understand it? |
| 18:03.50 | kebinusan | Ive been using arkinv, guess I could try sanity bags in the mean time |
| 18:04.06 | Kaelten | is the categories something that most people want? |
| 18:04.12 | Kaelten | or would at least be interested? |
| 18:04.14 | Ominous | depends |
| 18:04.19 | Ominous | im interested |
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| 18:04.31 | Kaelten | well give me some feedback on the depends part |
| 18:04.33 | kebinusan | I like having things in seperate categories, it means when I open my bags I have a general idea where stuff is |
| 18:04.37 | Sais | I think sanity bags has more than one bag frame - you can filter as required. I couldn't get it to do what I wanted, though. |
| 18:04.40 | kenlyric | I like the idea of baggins. I don't like that it's not a replacement for default bags like onebag is. |
| 18:04.43 | kebinusan | and its easy to seperate out different things like herbs |
| 18:04.56 | Ominous | depends on how customisable the catigories are, and what it looks like |
| 18:05.00 | Kilroo | Well, I will say that one of the few things I used to wish Onebag had was a way that it could automatically put my food together, trade goods together, equipment together, potions together, and everything else at the end or soemthing... |
| 18:06.24 | Kilroo | Ok, I'm sure I saw an inventory mod that had a picture of one frame with a lot of smaller sections inside it for different categories of Stuff you were carrying. Anyone know what that might have been? 'Coz I can't find it again. |
| 18:06.35 | Chompers | arkinventroy is also good kenlyric |
| 18:06.39 | Chompers | i prefer it over onebag |
| 18:06.39 | Kaelten | Basically instead of bags on the bagbar there would be a list of categories |
| 18:06.46 | Kaelten | and it'd function basically the same |
| 18:07.07 | Sais | Kilroo: Isn't that Baggins? |
| 18:07.14 | Zicon | Sounds a lot like abp. |
| 18:07.30 | Kaelten | abp? |
| 18:08.10 | Kilroo | Baggins has the categories as separate frames, or at least that's how the screenshot looks. |
| 18:08.20 | Kilroo | Oh. |
| 18:08.28 | Kilroo | Never mind, it was ArkInventory. |
| 18:09.18 | kenlyric | Kilroo: there's an option |
| 18:09.26 | kenlyric | you can make baggins do one bag frame. |
| 18:09.28 | Zicon | kaelten: Advanced Bags Plus. |
| 18:09.49 | kenlyric | I find it very useful, but I like I said, it doesn't supress the default bag/bank frame, so it's very very annoying. |
| 18:09.59 | Kaelten | zicon hrm never seen that one. |
| 18:10.04 | Kilroo | Ok, I'm gonna fire up the game and see what it tells me now. |
| 18:10.11 | Zicon | kaelten: It's old. |
| 18:10.17 | Kaelten | zicon ah |
| 18:10.52 | Gngsk | what do you mean kenlyric? I use baggins and I don't see default bag frames |
| 18:11.03 | kenlyric | at all? |
| 18:11.10 | kenlyric | even when you visit the bank? |
| 18:11.10 | Gngsk | at all |
| 18:11.18 | Gngsk | I see the bank frame for a sec, then it goes away |
| 18:11.22 | Gngsk | there's an option to supress it |
| 18:11.28 | kenlyric | is that recent? |
| 18:11.33 | Gngsk | don't think so |
| 18:11.48 | kenlyric | every time I'd visit a vendor it would open both teh default bag (onebag) and baggins. |
| 18:12.05 | Gngsk | oh, I don't have onebag enabled |
| 18:12.08 | Gngsk | might be your issue |
| 18:12.22 | phyber | why are Party and Party Pet frame scales linked :/ |
| 18:12.28 | kenlyric | well shoot, who needs onebag categoriest then? ;) |
| 18:13.16 | Kaelten | me |
| 18:13.21 | Kaelten | because I like my onebag |
| 18:13.24 | Kaelten | :) |
| 18:13.43 | Kilroo | Hmm |
| 18:13.43 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r34811 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail-enUS.lua BulkMail.lua): |
| 18:13.43 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: 0.9.0 |
| 18:13.43 | CIA-23 | - added first stab at item types and periodic tables rules menus |
| 18:13.43 | CIA-23 | - still no worky; hands off, grubber |
| 18:13.58 | Kilroo | Actually, I think someone told me something a while back that implied that MrPlow + Onebag does everything I would want Onebag categories to do. |
| 18:14.21 | Kaelten | kilroo if your main goal is just to have stuff grouped, it sure does |
| 18:14.28 | Gngsk | you'd have to plow everytime you got a new item though |
| 18:14.34 | Kaelten | the advantage of me coding it into OneBag itself is that you won't have to plow |
| 18:14.52 | Kaelten | because OneBag wouldn't really be rearranging your items, it'd just display differently. |
| 18:15.10 | Arrowmaster | the 2.1 inventory changes is going to be so nice for inventory management |
| 18:15.12 | mjc | I wish moving shit in the inventory wasn't so slow |
| 18:15.25 | deltron | hehe |
| 18:15.31 | Kilroo | Yes, but the advantage of MrPlow doing it (and no, I wouldn't have to plow whenever I got a new item, just whenever I was looking for something) is that I can go ahead and have something that works that way BEFORE you code it. |
| 18:15.35 | deltron | mrplow is so nice though |
| 18:15.36 | mjc | deltron: Conspirator!!! |
| 18:15.42 | kenlyric | Kaelten: or, also exactly what baggins does :) |
| 18:15.44 | deltron | mjc: :D |
| 18:15.58 | Kaelten | I just wish mrplow wouldn't move the same item more than once or twice |
| 18:15.59 | kenlyric | you need to make it BETTA! |
| 18:16.06 | deltron | mjc: how goes it nowadays? |
| 18:16.11 | kenlyric | mrplow is just incredibly dumb. |
| 18:16.15 | mjc | deltron: still haven't gotten into a fear raid :( |
| 18:16.18 | deltron | :( |
| 18:16.30 | mjc | they're pretty full nowadays |
| 18:16.34 | kenlyric | it has some kind of unfathamable sorting ritual |
| 18:16.34 | deltron | yeah |
| 18:16.39 | mjc | they want me tho :P |
| 18:16.50 | deltron | do eeeet |
| 18:16.59 | deltron | they have like 3-4 kara teams I think |
| 18:17.48 | mjc | yeah |
| 18:19.55 | deltron | hmm MN got hydross |
| 18:19.55 | Amadeo | Fear raid? Are you playing EQ? :P |
| 18:19.55 | Kaelten | I'm proud of OneBag though, I havn't had to update its code in months, and it hasn't had a major update in many many months |
| 18:19.56 | deltron | fear is a guild on our server heh |
| 18:19.56 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:19.56 | deltron | mjc: do you have a banker toon? I created <Banker> yesterday for banker only toons |
| 18:20.01 | deltron | :) |
| 18:20.16 | kenlyric | Make one called <Fruit Vendor> |
| 18:20.32 | deltron | HAHAHAH I CRUSHED YOUR FRUIT YOU FRUIT VENDOR |
| 18:20.34 | kenlyric | actually <Banker> is probably sufficient enough to get you reported. |
| 18:20.41 | mjc | deltron: yeah |
| 18:20.42 | deltron | hmm |
| 18:20.45 | mjc | deltron: Velosia |
| 18:20.53 | deltron | I can't change that can I? |
| 18:21.03 | mjc | only a GM can make you change it |
| 18:21.07 | deltron | it was originally <Bankers Union> |
| 18:21.13 | deltron | I'll wait till I get reported then :) |
| 18:22.24 | [dRaCo] | don't think someone's gonna report you |
| 18:22.31 | deltron | heh |
| 18:22.35 | Amadeo | Google's announcing their mobile product tomorrow |
| 18:22.37 | kenlyric | lol, mod conflicts ftw. |
| 18:22.48 | KarlThePagan | that would be so awesome |
| 18:22.48 | deltron | I report retarded guilds with umlauts in their name and stuff |
| 18:22.51 | deltron | and characters |
| 18:22.55 | deltron | only because that pisses me off |
| 18:23.07 | KarlThePagan | deltron, the gm's tell you to sod off yet? |
| 18:23.13 | mjc | US servers |
| 18:23.15 | deltron | not yet |
| 18:23.16 | [dRaCo] | yeah, like... Kîllèr |
| 18:23.22 | KarlThePagan | mjc, guild name don't matter |
| 18:23.33 | deltron | names really bug me |
| 18:23.40 | kenlyric | lol |
| 18:23.41 | mjc | deltron: someone made auOhumla change his name :( |
| 18:24.06 | deltron | who? |
| 18:24.11 | mjc | druid friend of mine |
| 18:24.13 | mjc | in votu |
| 18:24.15 | deltron | ah not me |
| 18:24.18 | mjc | he's just auhumla atm |
| 18:24.20 | deltron | I didn't do that |
| 18:24.26 | kenlyric | I hate how onebag, onebank, one ring are three seperate mods. Couldn't you make them a package or something? |
| 18:24.32 | kenlyric | who honestly gets only one of those? |
| 18:24.34 | deltron | I reported some jackass in org though, some 12 toon |
| 18:24.38 | mjc | never managed to make onering doa nything useful |
| 18:25.42 | kenlyric | well, your keyring is already one bag :) |
| 18:25.42 | kenlyric | it just makes it look like the others. |
| 18:25.42 | KarlThePagan | the only thing I would change is let you dock your onering on the left/right/bottom instead of only top |
| 18:25.51 | KarlThePagan | but it's such a minor thing |
| 18:28.16 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 18:28.27 | kenlyric | i hit b and it opens my damn default bag. |
| 18:29.05 | Gngsk | bind a key |
| 18:30.16 | Arrowmaster | cartographer's instance maps are SOOO fucked up on ptr right now |
| 18:30.34 | Fisker- | is that an invitation Arrowmaster? |
| 18:30.35 | Fisker- | :)) |
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| 18:31.03 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 18:32.01 | Fisker- | i'm thinking dirty stuff |
| 18:32.02 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34812 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: BigWigs: SC/Lurker: add 10 yd range scanning when hes emerged |
| 18:32.02 | kenlyric | meh, and then when baggins breaks my keybinding won't do anything useful. Like I said, *stab* illogical mod activity. Onebag can do it. Sanity bags can do it. |
| 18:32.17 | kenlyric | why can't mods be perfect? |
| 18:32.23 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34813 10Aloft/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 18:32.23 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 18:32.23 | CIA-23 | - Added Pet Owner's name options. Shows under Name Text menu. |
| 18:32.23 | CIA-23 | - Added system for options that modify name text to register themselves with a priority when to be called |
| 18:32.23 | CIA-23 | - Modified GuildText options to use this. |
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| 18:33.19 | mjc | WUU is fucking awesome |
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| 18:33.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 18:34.32 | deltron | WUU? |
| 18:34.47 | deltron | the wowace universal updater? |
| 18:35.39 | Elkano | is wuu java? |
| 18:36.18 | sedatedChipmunk | argh, dewdrop pisses me off |
| 18:36.37 | Elkano | did it make jokes about your ma? |
| 18:36.47 | pastamancer | Elkano: it's python |
| 18:36.50 | CIA-23 | 03sid67 * r34814 10FuBar_ChatAlertsFu/ChatAlertsFu.lua: |
| 18:36.50 | CIA-23 | FuBar_ChatAlertsFu: |
| 18:36.50 | CIA-23 | - fixed eof error at line 1248 |
| 18:37.11 | Elkano | why not lua? ;) |
| 18:37.59 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html?forumId=11429&characterId=1027010484&sid=1 <-- hmm i bet that's a keylogger! |
| 18:38.38 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:39.09 | deltron | howdy |
| 18:39.32 | ckknight | phyber: they shouldn't be... |
| 18:39.39 | Elkano | deltron, almost for sure since he's not linking the official page for the program but some other site |
| 18:40.10 | hyperChipmunk | i want to add one line to the feedaceoptions function, and hooking it wont work because the change is in a function call of the original, and hooking that function would require me to duplicate a bunch of local functions that support it >8\ |
| 18:40.26 | hyperChipmunk | and then it made jokes about my ma |
| 18:40.34 | ckknight | Mikk: it's not that I refuse to make them so, it's that I'm lazy and see no need for it personally |
| 18:40.37 | Elkano | deltron: and since he spammed the post ^^ |
| 18:41.27 | deltron | http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=gameomp&tld=net |
| 18:41.30 | hyperChipmunk | it's either that, or create an indeterminate-level dewdrop by hand =\ |
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| 18:42.26 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34815 10Aloft/Options/Modules/ (CommentData.lua ShortGuildData.lua): Aloft: Clearing guild short name database or comment database now shows a confirmation dialog first |
| 18:42.40 | deltron | ok well I'm going to disassemble that keylogger |
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| 18:43.26 | Elkano | deltron: wrt funniest thing I ever did was shutting down a botnet of a few douzend pcs via their irc ^^ |
| 18:43.30 | ckknight | go for it, deltron |
| 18:43.45 | kergoth | morning |
| 18:43.52 | ckknight | hey kergoth |
| 18:44.54 | kergoth | god i hate the company i work for |
| 18:44.55 | kergoth | more every day |
| 18:45.09 | MoonWolf | thats natural |
| 18:45.19 | Stephmw | Elkano: damn script kiddies just can't handle authenticated coms ;) |
| 18:45.22 | mjc | I like the company I work for |
| 18:45.26 | mjc | I hate the people in it tho |
| 18:45.28 | MoonWolf | for now. |
| 18:45.33 | Stephmw | kergoth: my solution was to quit - I'm finishing mid-august |
| 18:45.48 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: is there any convenient way to access a dewdrop button after it's been :AddLine()ed? |
| 18:45.58 | ckknight | um, don't think so |
| 18:46.02 | ckknight | not sure |
| 18:46.03 | kergoth | the first revision of this hardware board at work is called type 2. the second version is called type 1. |
| 18:46.09 | kergoth | the type 2 board is on overall design version 1. |
| 18:46.14 | kergoth | the type 1 board is on the overall design version 2. |
| 18:46.31 | kergoth | go sane hardware versioning.. yeah |
| 18:46.59 | phyber | ckknight: I've just reloaded UI, so I'll test it again. |
| 18:47.00 | deltron | botnets are fun |
| 18:47.02 | hyperChipmunk | i really don't want to rewrite a few hundred lines just to add a func to a group button |
| 18:47.13 | phyber | ckknight: after I exited the test mode, the [x] boxes still showed for my pet too. |
| 18:47.15 | Kilroo | I have this bunch of numbered pink and green squares. |
| 18:47.16 | kenlyric | nice, baggins doesn't even have keybinding options. |
| 18:47.25 | Kilroo | And they won't tell me what addon they are. |
| 18:47.27 | kergoth | kenlyric: uh? |
| 18:47.30 | phyber | s/test/config/ |
| 18:47.37 | ckknight | phyber: blame nymbia |
| 18:48.22 | phyber | damn him! |
| 18:48.34 | deltron | how the hell do keyloggers stay up for so long on the wow.com forums |
| 18:48.46 | kenlyric | kergoth: no keybinding option for baggins. I have to create a macro and waste a bar slot. |
| 18:48.59 | Kilroo | On a related note: Having taken a cursory look at nQuestLog and QuestsFu I don't see a particular reason to favor one over the other. Anyone have an opinion they wish to share? |
| 18:49.31 | Hjalte | Kilroo, I just like the way Questsfu looks :) |
| 18:49.52 | phyber | ckknight: yeah, all seems to be cool now. wonder why that happened before :) |
| 18:50.04 | Kilroo | Heh...and I think most of what I've done with either of them yet was making QuestsFu look like nQuestLog. |
| 18:50.07 | kergoth | kenlyric: weird... .i couldve sworn it had a keybind |
| 18:50.08 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:50.09 | phyber | I was quite shocked that they would be linked like that, but there was also other weirdness happening in the menus too. |
| 18:50.14 | Bam__ | kenlyric: there is a binding to toggle all bags |
| 18:50.19 | phyber | which is probably why it happened ;) |
| 18:50.39 | Kilroo | Ok, back in to try to figure out which addons to keep and which not. |
| 18:51.04 | kenlyric | i use all in one sorted profile |
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| 18:53.59 | Saroz_ | Elkano, man those buff bars are buggy... keeps throwing errors about attempt to index field bgbar, on 386 EBB_BAR |
| 18:54.21 | Elkano | what did you do? Oo |
| 18:54.36 | Saroz_ | Click "Show background" |
| 18:54.38 | Saroz_ | grats me |
| 18:55.01 | Saroz_ | via the fubar thingie |
| 18:55.54 | Saroz_ | gonna try and unlock it and do the right click thing on the bar |
| 18:56.00 | Elkano | so you didn't have it shown before? |
| 18:56.09 | Saroz_ | nop |
| 18:56.22 | Saroz_ | and I had the same problem when I set some TOPLEFT TEXT |
| 18:56.23 | Saroz_ | or something |
| 18:56.24 | Saroz_ | same error |
| 18:56.50 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34816 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull - Layouts/ABF - stick the ABF layout on the PitBull namespace, for others to be able to go through. |
| 18:57.10 | Bam__ | kenlyric: just tested... keybinding works with All in one sorted for me |
| 18:57.13 | Saroz_ | I know I rock a bug reporting btw |
| 18:57.15 | evulhotdog | how do you download files off of IRC? |
| 18:57.22 | kenlyric | what keybinding? where? |
| 18:57.41 | Bam__ | in the keybindings window :) |
| 18:57.48 | Elkano | Saroz_, ok, I think I know what's going on |
| 18:57.48 | kenlyric | I went there, there is nothing for baggins. |
| 18:57.51 | Bam__ | the default Blizzard one |
| 18:58.05 | Bam__ | you may have missed it.. there is only one line |
| 18:58.13 | CIA-23 | 03arrowmaster * r34817 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua: Cartographer: InstanceLoot: DressUpItem(id) changed to DressUpItemLink(link) for 2.1 |
| 18:58.33 | kenlyric | nope, didn't miss it. I'm just fucking dumb. |
| 18:58.37 | Bam__ | hmm.. do you have Bartender installed? |
| 18:58.55 | kenlyric | yes :) |
| 18:58.58 | kenlyric | and it has no header. |
| 18:59.02 | kenlyric | and also, BAG comes before BAR |
| 18:59.03 | Bam__ | seem to remember something odd with Bartender's keybindings... they overlap or something |
| 18:59.14 | CIA-23 | 03elkano * r34818 10ElkBuffBars/EBB_BarGroup.lua: ElkBuffBars: fixed a race condition wrt switching bgbars on |
| 18:59.19 | Bam__ | yea quite odd |
| 18:59.25 | deltron | bartender doesn't have any key bindings does it? |
| 18:59.31 | Bam__ | perhaps a bug in Bartender's Bindings.xml |
| 18:59.35 | deltron | I thought it was fairly vanilla |
| 18:59.35 | Saroz_ | good boy |
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| 19:00.19 | Elkano | Saroz_, problem was that by some other changes I did the bars were now updated before the new frames had been created. I switched the order and it should now work again |
| 19:00.32 | Saroz_ | \o/ |
| 19:00.43 | Elkano | thx for the report :) |
| 19:00.49 | Saroz_ | sure thing |
| 19:01.17 | Funkeh` | arrowmaster: as far as i know 2.1 is not this week |
| 19:01.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah its not |
| 19:01.59 | Arrowmaster | both those functions work in 2.0, only one works in 2.1 |
| 19:02.20 | Funkeh` | alright |
| 19:02.49 | wallen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:03.42 | Kilroo | Anyone know why my buff and debuff slots would be showing up as arrays of pink and green squares? |
| 19:04.09 | Elkano | PitBull set to config mode? |
| 19:04.13 | shieldb | did someone cast ZOMG PONIES on you? |
| 19:04.30 | Kilroo | Hm. Elkano, that wouldn't surprise me a bit. |
| 19:04.45 | Elkano | check it's FuBar tooltip ^^ |
| 19:04.58 | Kilroo | Figuring out how to configure PitBull is next on my list. |
| 19:05.17 | Bam__ | you've got a long day ahead of you :) |
| 19:05.24 | Kilroo | Unfortunately I let all my batteries get uncharged at once. |
| 19:05.34 | Elkano | well, choose one of the default layouts and tune it a bit ingame or write one of your own... see you in a week+ |
| 19:05.42 | Arrowmaster | haha http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/102901297.htm |
| 19:05.42 | Bam__ | don't forget to reload your UI from time to time :) |
| 19:06.17 | Kilroo | After that comes figuring out which will irritate me more...figuring out how to configure Infinibars or figuring out why my year-and-a-half-old Visor scripts for setting my buttons up don't work. |
| 19:06.23 | kenlyric | Kaelten: want to make a perfect bag category thingy, then let it allow you to divide up your crap however you want |
| 19:06.31 | kenlyric | then I will worship you. |
| 19:06.36 | Kaelten | kenlyric lol |
| 19:06.40 | Kaelten | we'll see |
| 19:07.36 | Kilroo | Incidentally, minimap buttons that don't allow for easy precision placement of themselves are irksome. |
| 19:08.06 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:08.18 | deltron | Arrowmaster: dude that is awesome |
| 19:08.22 | Kilroo | The world map button for example. |
| 19:08.50 | Bam__ | that's a Blizzard one... you expect too much :P |
| 19:09.08 | Kilroo | Meh. |
| 19:09.17 | Bam__ | I just hide it... it's useless imo |
| 19:09.28 | Kilroo | Probably what I'll do too |
| 19:09.30 | Arrowmaster | lots of bizzard frames are hard coded to possition themselves in a certain place relative to another frame every update |
| 19:10.02 | kenlyric | trying to make a bag that stores just my primals/motes is hurtin my brain. |
| 19:10.19 | Bam__ | yea though I've always found it odd that they didn't implement dragging by default... I mean they have the code for it right there |
| 19:11.37 | Kilroo | Where does one find the Pitbull default layouts? I think I missed that somehow... |
| 19:11.53 | ckknight | Kilroo: in the layouts folder. |
| 19:12.47 | Kilroo | ...Oh. |
| 19:14.49 | [Ammo] | Kilroo: delete combatfader |
| 19:14.55 | [Ammo] | it's bugged |
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| 19:15.18 | Kilroo | What's combatfader? |
| 19:15.36 | chutwig | pitbull_combatfader |
| 19:15.42 | chutwig | find the folder in your addons directory |
| 19:15.44 | [Ammo] | that makes them translucent |
| 19:16.27 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: I'd like to request either http://ace.pastey.net/24521 or some universal method of specifying non-leaf aceoptions as executable |
| 19:16.54 | Arrowmaster | omg i found the BEST buff ever on the ptr! |
| 19:16.59 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: for both Waterfall and AceOptions, how would you execute? |
| 19:17.07 | ckknight | err, Waterfall and AceConsole* |
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| 19:17.09 | Arrowmaster | Sporeggar Tabard! |
| 19:17.20 | syeren | So I just tried using nRaidTracker. |
| 19:17.21 | chutwig | that's definitely worth grinding exalted sporeggar for |
| 19:17.26 | syeren | How do I view who was in the raid O_o; |
| 19:17.33 | phyber | ckknight: when you have the buffs below your party, the thing needs to move the people down a bit. buffs from partymember 1 overlap the HP bar of party member 2, for example. |
| 19:17.37 | syeren | Looked through Saved Variables. |
| 19:17.50 | hyperChipmunk | aceconsole, you'd execute without specifying any suboptions |
| 19:17.50 | ckknight | phyber: impossible. |
| 19:17.56 | ckknight | phyber: just make the spacing larger |
| 19:17.58 | chutwig | PREPOSTEROUS |
| 19:18.00 | phyber | ah, ok :) |
| 19:18.14 | Megalon | Arrowmaster: itemid or pic? :x |
| 19:18.14 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: no, currently it lists the suboptions |
| 19:18.15 | Arrowmaster | fuck if i wasnt an orc i would so screenshot this tabbard in dressing room |
| 19:18.17 | Kilroo | Hmm, what is this Cannot find module "Aura" business... |
| 19:18.19 | hyperChipmunk | i'm not familiar at all with waterfall |
| 19:18.25 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: how else would people know what the suboptions are at all |
| 19:18.38 | ckknight | this has been discussed before and no good answer has come from it |
| 19:18.41 | hyperChipmunk | i always just hit tab |
| 19:19.14 | Arrowmaster | Megalon: itemid is 31775 |
| 19:19.23 | hyperChipmunk | maybe there needs to be a selection group type, then |
| 19:19.26 | deltron | what's the link to WUU? |
| 19:19.29 | Megalon | kk, i'll have a look :> |
| 19:19.34 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 19:19.38 | Arrowmaster | get a good screenshot if you can |
| 19:19.48 | Arrowmaster | im an orc, tabbards look like crap on me |
| 19:20.04 | Megalon | i'm orc female |
| 19:20.05 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34819 10Aloft/ (Modules/PetOwnersNameData.lua Options/Modules/GuildText.lua): |
| 19:20.05 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 19:20.05 | CIA-23 | - Pet Owner's names are now gathered from roster also |
| 19:20.05 | CIA-23 | - GuildText provides a few more attach options |
| 19:20.09 | chutwig | everything looks crappy on an orc |
| 19:20.10 | chutwig | ziiiiiiing |
| 19:20.13 | Megalon | omg mushroom |
| 19:20.19 | Megalon | need >:< |
| 19:20.24 | Megalon | awesome tabard |
| 19:20.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah i can see the back of it |
| 19:20.41 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34820 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: add deDE |
| 19:20.41 | deltron | mjc: you see Conspiracy's tabard yet? heh |
| 19:20.45 | Arrowmaster | good thing im already revered on live |
| 19:22.18 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r34821 10Violation/modules/ (6 files): Violation: reset dirty data upon a reset as well |
| 19:23.15 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: such an idea would be so similar to a normal group, though, that i figured explicitly requiring setting .pass = false (or some other value) would be sufficient, and the addon writer would only use that if it made sense |
| 19:23.51 | Megalon | Arrowmaster: http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/652/sporeggartabardxw7.jpg |
| 19:23.55 | ckknight | but being able to execute the group itself is odd and doesn't fit into other schemas, such as AceConsole or Waterfall |
| 19:24.35 | deltron | ~seen totalpackage |
| 19:25.24 | purl | i haven't seen 'totalpackage', deltron |
| 19:25.25 | phyber | ckknight: cool. changed that now. also, PitBull is awesome :) |
| 19:25.25 | ckknight | :-) |
| 19:25.25 | Arrowmaster | Megalon: nice |
| 19:25.25 | ckknight | still need to break the aura bug... |
| 19:25.25 | ckknight | that's the biggest current problem |
| 19:25.25 | deltron | aura is the buffs? |
| 19:25.25 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34822 10FuBar_WhisperFu/WhisperFu.lua: FuBar_WhisperFu - Hopefully fixing buggy code |
| 19:25.35 | hyperChipmunk | ok, then maybe a generic table feed for dewdrop, so we can manually create a dewdrop from a simple table |
| 19:25.43 | hyperChipmunk | actually, i think that's a good idea |
| 19:25.47 | Megalon | np. oh man 4k/12k, but that tabard is so worth it :c |
| 19:25.59 | Elkano | ammo, for some reason some parts of violation where way of the tanks values taken with another addon, maybe swstats :/ |
| 19:27.42 | Arrowmaster | blizzard nerfed adjusting combatlog range so ive been getting values way lower than synced damagemeters because im the only person running violation |
| 19:27.57 | hyperChipmunk | making a multileveled table is so much simpler to do than dealing with levels, values, and addlines |
| 19:28.18 | Elkano | hmm... ok, maybe that's the reason |
| 19:28.33 | [dRaCo] | ckk, I've noticed some weird behaviour when using pitbull's raid frames... it sometimes doesnt update the names on the frames |
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| 19:28.48 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: when? |
| 19:28.51 | hyperChipmunk | i know i'm not the only one who uses the aceoptions table just for a conveniend dewdrop |
| 19:28.52 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: they nerfed adjusting combat log range? how so? |
| 19:29.02 | [dRaCo] | ppl joining or being moved |
| 19:29.09 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: it doesnt do anything |
| 19:29.10 | hyperChipmunk | s/conveniend/convenient/ |
| 19:29.19 | kergoth | :( |
| 19:29.32 | [dRaCo] | even ooc, and no error message at all |
| 19:29.42 | Elkano | hyperChipmunk: check out my code in EBBs or ItemListFu ;) |
| 19:29.45 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: did they do that in 2.1, or in the past? |
| 19:29.50 | pastamancer | hyperChipmunk: I think we all do |
| 19:29.53 | Arrowmaster | doesnt work in 2.0.12 |
| 19:29.57 | Arrowmaster | not sure when it happened |
| 19:29.57 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 19:29.59 | hyperChipmunk | exactly |
| 19:30.13 | shieldb | thought it was 2.0.10 that it was changed initially |
| 19:30.17 | pastamancer | and I do some pretty scary things with aceoptions |
| 19:30.21 | hyperChipmunk | but you run into limitations of the 3-pronged needs of aceoptions |
| 19:30.27 | Elkano | ItemListFu even features reoprdering of AceOptionTables on the fly which gives some strange results ^^ |
| 19:30.27 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:30.30 | kergoth | hrmph |
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| 19:31.32 | hyperChipmunk | a generic table feeder consisting directly of dewdrop addline options might be a better way to go |
| 19:31.37 | [dRaCo] | ckk: i've got a screenshot, but I don't think it'll help since it doesnt show anything beside those wrong colored frames |
| 19:31.54 | ckknight | is it still bugged right now? |
| 19:31.57 | ckknight | as you're playing? |
| 19:32.07 | [dRaCo] | it was yesterday |
| 19:32.07 | hyperChipmunk | cuz frankly, i don't plan on using this as anything but a dewdrop |
| 19:32.12 | Arrowmaster | ive got all my combat log distances set to 200 using otweaks and on gruul violation says my rogue friend who was like 2nd on synced meters only did 30k damage |
| 19:32.14 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r34823 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Add alt-click on tooltip for group reset |
| 19:32.31 | [dRaCo] | and the raid part hasn't been updated since then, so I suppose it still is |
| 19:32.40 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: I need to check something as you're playing. |
| 19:32.43 | Arrowmaster | and ive not been getting cast messages with witchhunt from far away |
| 19:33.16 | [dRaCo] | guess I'll find some ppl to build a raid... what do you wanna know? |
| 19:33.17 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: that sucks. |
| 19:33.58 | shieldb | [dRaCo], you can always queue up for AV if you need to fill a raid quickly |
| 19:34.13 | Arrowmaster | somehow i think it started with 2.0.12's fix for detecting who the enemy team was in arenas before the game started |
| 19:34.30 | [dRaCo] | yeah, finding a raid won't be a problem |
| 19:35.16 | syeren | Does anyone use NRaidTracker here and can tell me where it writes the files? |
| 19:35.43 | Stephmw | I'm seeing some weirdness with PitBull with a buff icon being stretched and scaled to cover my entire target frame - is there a workaround |
| 19:35.48 | Stephmw | ? |
| 19:36.00 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34824 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Bugfix. |
| 19:36.29 | ckknight | no, Stephmw |
| 19:36.39 | ckknight | otherwise it'd be fixed |
| 19:37.11 | deltron | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/08/blizzard-fights-ingame-spam-and-the-addon-meant-to-stop-it/ <-- LMAO |
| 19:37.12 | [dRaCo] | ckk: what do u want me to test? |
| 19:37.18 | Stephmw | sometimes bugfixes carry too much risk to be just added without more testing - but it's ok, I'll survive |
| 19:37.18 | deltron | spamsentry is pissing blue's off |
| 19:37.30 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: get it to a messed-up state |
| 19:37.41 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: then /print UnitName(GetMouseFocus():GetUnit()) |
| 19:37.45 | ckknight | and see if the name matches. |
| 19:38.10 | kergoth | deltron: if spamsentry is pissing them off, maybe they should implement spam filtering for us, so we dont need it :P |
| 19:38.20 | deltron | correct |
| 19:38.22 | Fisker- | old news deltron :( |
| 19:38.27 | [dRaCo] | clicking the frames gives me the person it should point to, if that helps |
| 19:38.35 | [dRaCo] | wait a moment, I'll test that |
| 19:38.38 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34825 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Remove a debug print. |
| 19:38.38 | deltron | I was thinking they could just use spamsentry's report automagically |
| 19:39.04 | Fisker- | It's stupid! |
| 19:39.15 | ckknight | no, it doesn't, [dRaCo] |
| 19:39.18 | ckknight | just test what I put |
| 19:39.23 | [dRaCo] | on it |
| 19:39.24 | Fisker- | Atleast they should make some non-protected ticket that skips the gm system alltogether |
| 19:40.38 | Stephmw | ckknight: does it happen to you too, or should I start toggling options to isolate error conditions? |
| 19:40.54 | ckknight | Stephmw: I don't raid |
| 19:41.02 | Stephmw | ckknight: I get it outside raids |
| 19:41.04 | ckknight | oh |
| 19:41.09 | [dRaCo] | ckk: echoes the person it should point to according to blizz raid stuff |
| 19:41.12 | ckknight | yea, I don't know how to reproduce |
| 19:41.21 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: so did the name match or didn't it? |
| 19:41.27 | [dRaCo] | didnt |
| 19:41.31 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 19:41.32 | Stephmw | ckknight: ok, I'll see if I can find out what triggers it |
| 19:41.41 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: but the color did seem correct? |
| 19:41.52 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: i.e. /print UnitClass(GetMouseFocus():GetUnit()) |
| 19:41.58 | ckknight | that class should match the color, yes? |
| 19:42.18 | [dRaCo] | nope, not this time... it completely shows my frame (shaman), but it should be a priest |
| 19:42.21 | Fisker- | man ckknight :P |
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| 19:42.41 | chutwig | [dRaCo]: i see the same thing |
| 19:42.44 | FISKER_Q | Well when a man and woman loves each other eheh |
| 19:42.52 | chutwig | and what i've noticed is that it tends to resolve itself after several seconds |
| 19:42.53 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: well, then I dunno |
| 19:43.04 | ckknight | Fisker-: don't bother me if you have nothing to contribute |
| 19:43.08 | chutwig | like maybe 15 seconds later the raid frames will change to what they should be |
| 19:43.10 | [dRaCo] | wargh, but the line you posted back then echoes Priest |
| 19:43.25 | [dRaCo] | *totally confused* |
| 19:43.29 | Stephmw | hmmm, disabling party frames removes the issue.. |
| 19:43.32 | chutwig | and all the mixed-up colors and such will resolve themselves |
| 19:43.40 | [dRaCo] | yeah, sure |
| 19:43.50 | chutwig | Stephmw: does it work if you disable party frames and then form the raid? |
| 19:43.51 | kergoth | vhaarr: out of curiosity, is it intended that the sticky part of SimpleChatMods is the only one that's disabled by default? |
| 19:43.57 | vhaarr | kergoth: yeah |
| 19:43.58 | chutwig | because disabling the party frame could be triggering another update that clears up the problem |
| 19:44.03 | kergoth | okay, just making sure :) |
| 19:44.12 | vhaarr | no worries |
| 19:44.12 | Stephmw | chutwig: no raid at all |
| 19:44.15 | ckknight | http://www.scvs4hire.com/ |
| 19:44.24 | [dRaCo] | but I thought I'd report it since that pretty sure isnt the way it is supposed to work |
| 19:44.27 | Stephmw | chutwig: 2-person group in normal party mode |
| 19:44.42 | kergoth | <3 svnmerge, makes maintaining my 2.1 branch of my addon set much easier |
| 19:44.42 | [dRaCo] | now the color of the frame has changed to white :/ |
| 19:44.43 | Stephmw | ckknight, chutwig: combat triggers it |
| 19:45.04 | chutwig | i just have problems with my raid frames getting mixed up when people are being moved around |
| 19:45.18 | chutwig | and people get the wrong class color background and are in the wrong position |
| 19:45.21 | Ominous_ | wtf i just went from a 500 kilo byte /s dowload to a 5 kbs |
| 19:45.26 | [dRaCo] | yeah, happens here, too |
| 19:45.28 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34826 10Aloft/ (CoreModules/IsPetData.lua Modules/PetOwnersNameData.lua): |
| 19:45.28 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 19:45.28 | CIA-23 | - IsPetData simplified a little. |
| 19:45.28 | CIA-23 | - PetOwnersNameData is now only applied to friendlyNPC or hostile units |
| 19:46.43 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 19:46.52 | Fisker- | doesn't Virtual PC even support iso images? |
| 19:46.53 | Fisker- | :I |
| 19:47.08 | chutwig | use vmware like the rest of the civilized world |
| 19:47.31 | Fisker- | worse than spyware :( |
| 19:47.37 | Ominous | wtf "Ominous quit (Success)" what happened to "Ominous quit (connetion timed out)"? |
| 19:48.07 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34827 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - run :UpdateAll when the party/raid changes |
| 19:48.09 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: willing to test? |
| 19:48.17 | [dRaCo] | sure, one moment |
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| 19:48.22 | Fisker- | oh noes i'm using "5%" memory :P |
| 19:48.25 | Stephmw | screenie, just for reference, http://rifers.org/paste/content/paste/4673/image?key=stephmw |
| 19:48.27 | chutwig | i'll test too when it gets pushed to files |
| 19:48.27 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: would you oppose adding a generic table-feed interpreter to Dewdrop? |
| 19:48.40 | ckknight | what would that imply? |
| 19:48.56 | Fisker- | :( the VPC install is 4-5 times quicker than the install on my machine :( |
| 19:50.20 | Megalon | than perhaps you should play in your vpc :p |
| 19:50.25 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 19:50.29 | [dRaCo] | good thing I'm using pitbull's svn version |
| 19:50.38 | CIA-23 | 03kaelten * r34828 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc: |
| 19:50.38 | CIA-23 | cgProfiler - |
| 19:50.38 | CIA-23 | - fixed reference in toc file |
| 19:50.40 | Fisker- | Was pretty weird my install on my machine was probably the slowest one i had encountered ever |
| 19:51.27 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: like the aceoptions table, but allowing for full use of dewdrop's capabilities. everybody uses aceoptions tables just because they don't want to deal with all the 'if level ==' and stuff to create a dewdrop, especially for dewdrops of a dynamic depth |
| 19:51.32 | Stephmw | ckknight: turning Frame Highlight to 'Never' in all affected frames fixes it |
| 19:51.37 | Stephmw | ckknight: ... nm |
| 19:51.44 | hyperChipmunk | but they don't actually care about the table outside dewdrop |
| 19:51.44 | Stephmw | ckknight: it just reoccured, just took longer |
| 19:52.04 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: if you want to code it, I wouldn't be too against it |
| 19:52.22 | hyperChipmunk | it's much simpler to just make a table with keys |
| 19:52.50 | ckknight | I wish I could reproduce it locally... |
| 19:52.55 | hyperChipmunk | this would take a table with dewdrop addline args as keys and build a dewdrop |
| 19:53.39 | hyperChipmunk | k, i just wanted to be sure that if i wrote it, the next commit wouldn't be you removing it |
| 19:53.39 | ckknight | probably not |
| 19:54.26 | hyperChipmunk | the aceoptions table feed could probably mapped easily into the generic table feed |
| 19:54.41 | hyperChipmunk | but that'd be something to look at after |
| 19:55.38 | ckknight | probably not, due to the changeability of the options table |
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| 19:57.18 | Fisker- | Anyone know a bit about nLite and sata drivers? |
| 19:57.48 | Ominous | kaelten: ping |
| 19:58.07 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34829 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - when the group updates, delay the :UpdateAll by a frame |
| 19:58.10 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: potential fix ^-- |
| 19:58.34 | Ominous | kaelten: you mentioned some upcoming changes to WAU but i have 1 question, will it be removing the having to confirm the opening with vistas crappy security thing |
| 19:59.58 | sbu | uhm ckknight |
| 20:00.12 | chutwig | Ominous: DO YOU TRUST THIS APPLICATION |
| 20:00.16 | sbu | aura sorting only affects debuffs? |
| 20:00.24 | Ominous | chutwig: what? |
| 20:00.25 | Stephmw | ckknight: ok, instancing, I'll continue seeing if I can narrow it down |
| 20:00.26 | ckknight | sbu: don't know about sorting. |
| 20:00.36 | chutwig | Ominous: this application is from an unknown source! |
| 20:00.48 | sbu | ckknight: oh, ok :o |
| 20:00.52 | sbu | well, debuff sorting rocks |
| 20:00.57 | sbu | but buff sorting would be nice too ;) |
| 20:01.41 | Ominous | chutwig: heh.. |
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| 20:04.20 | ckknight | sbu: how would you want to sort? |
| 20:04.27 | ckknight | I can't sort by dispel type |
| 20:04.30 | ckknight | I could sort alphabetically |
| 20:04.35 | sbu | ckknight: type, alphabetically? |
| 20:04.42 | sbu | type first |
| 20:04.43 | ckknight | can't sort by type |
| 20:04.46 | ckknight | I just said |
| 20:04.57 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitBuff |
| 20:05.00 | ckknight | doesn't return type |
| 20:05.20 | ckknight | though I could do some craziness with tooltips. |
| 20:05.25 | ckknight | and then cache it with name => type |
| 20:06.26 | [dRaCo] | ckk: no errors so far after some swapping |
| 20:06.31 | [dRaCo] | think that fixed it |
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| 20:06.44 | sbu | errr forget that type thing |
| 20:06.52 | sbu | does type make any sense for buffs? ;o |
| 20:06.53 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: you know what that means: pants party! |
| 20:06.54 | sbu | i dont think so |
| 20:06.58 | Keita | can ne 1 point me to a place to c how to make a dragable frame... I looked at Sniff and have the frame going.... I just can't move it arrounf *mad* |
| 20:07.08 | sbu | alphabetacially would be great |
| 20:07.15 | sbu | "ah! 3 renews" |
| 20:08.27 | [dRaCo] | sounds like fun... beer? :> |
| 20:08.43 | kenlyric | anyone know what the itemlevel buff was for heroic loot? |
| 20:08.50 | kenlyric | somebody said it was originally 95. |
| 20:08.59 | Ominous | hmm i was thiking of renaming FuBar_ClassTimerFu to ClassTimerFu as it dosent really requre FuBar at all just uses FuBar plugin for options, good idfea or not? |
| 20:09.11 | sbu | ckknight: we need sorting anyways, so 'buffs from me' first in 2.1 ;o |
| 20:09.15 | yacoob | Good. |
| 20:09.19 | sbu | well, 'need''.. you know ;) |
| 20:09.22 | Silviu- | Ominous rename it to ClassTimer only |
| 20:09.28 | Ominous | bah ye :p |
| 20:09.38 | yacoob | Ominous, if it doesn't require fubar, and has the functionality without it, the current name is misleading :) |
| 20:09.47 | Ominous | renaming it then |
| 20:11.14 | CIA-23 | 03kaelten * r34830 10cgProfiler/ (npcs/npcs.lua raids/raids.lua): |
| 20:11.14 | CIA-23 | cgProfiler - |
| 20:11.14 | CIA-23 | - bug fixes |
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| 20:15.22 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34831 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Support older-style replies as well. |
| 20:16.02 | Ominous | whats the smoothest way of renameing an addon on the svn? |
| 20:16.09 | kergoth | svn mv foo bar |
| 20:16.14 | kergoth | svn ci -m"Rename foo to bar." foo bar |
| 20:16.18 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 20:16.20 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:16.23 | Ominous | k |
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| 20:18.07 | Ominous | kergoth: it dosent work the parent folder, ie svn: '.' is not a working copy |
| 20:18.07 | Ominous | svn: Can't open file '.svn\entries': The system cannot find the path specified. |
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| 20:18.42 | Silviu- | Just delete it and readd ? ;) |
| 20:18.43 | vhaarr | Do it directly on the repository. |
| 20:18.46 | Ominous | k |
| 20:18.55 | vhaarr | Instead of using local directories, provide URLs. |
| 20:19.26 | Ominous | k |
| 20:19.28 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r34832 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (17 files in 3 dirs): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: rename files and variables for rename incomming |
| 20:20.32 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r34833 10/trunk/ (ClassTimer/ FuBar_ClassTimerFu/): ClassTimer: Rename folder |
| 20:23.10 | chutwig | minor typo in itembonuslib-1.0.lua at line 199 :o |
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| 20:25.00 | Stephmw | KTM question... is there any way of stopping it clearing the table after a fight? |
| 20:25.11 | Stephmw | (messing with KTM because guild uses it) |
| 20:25.28 | Elkano | there is imho no sense in not doing it |
| 20:25.53 | Stephmw | we do like to analyse our performance? |
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| 20:26.43 | Keita | if u loose agro u will notice in combat. imho agro only is "valid" during a fight |
| 20:28.42 | deltron | you don't want to keep that data |
| 20:28.52 | Stephmw | I want to keep it _until the next fight_ |
| 20:29.01 | deltron | the last snapshot is probably bad |
| 20:29.04 | Stephmw | not having an option is just annoying |
| 20:29.09 | deltron | because sometimes people are going all out |
| 20:29.54 | Stephmw | that's perfectly fine. |
| 20:30.10 | fleetfoot | but what performance are you gonna measure with that? |
| 20:31.16 | Stephmw | relative threat over a fight, summarised - I know it's an average |
| 20:31.38 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34834 10Aloft/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:31.38 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 20:31.38 | CIA-23 | - Minor code cleanups/modifications |
| 20:32.31 | CIA-23 | 03kaelten * r34835 10cgProfiler/raids/raids.lua: |
| 20:32.31 | CIA-23 | cgProfiler - |
| 20:32.31 | CIA-23 | - more bug fixes |
| 20:32.52 | deltron | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/raid/klhthreatmeter/ |
| 20:33.11 | deltron | what about something like the "my threat stats" or whatever |
| 20:34.03 | Stephmw | because it doesn't relate yours against everyone elses - which you've received via the shared data channel |
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| 20:38.53 | Gothtar | Good morning, afternoon, and evening, everyone |
| 20:39.04 | Ominous | right, i need suggestions for my timers |
| 20:39.25 | Gothtar | suggest-O-bot ahoy! |
| 20:39.46 | deltron | what kind of timers you need watching? |
| 20:40.30 | [dRaCo] | timers... make them work :> |
| 20:40.34 | Ominous | erm dots, stuns etc... they do... |
| 20:41.20 | kenlyric | I want timers for other peoples abilities. |
| 20:41.20 | [dRaCo] | what else do you need? ;) |
| 20:41.31 | kenlyric | and also, for mob abilities on other people. |
| 20:41.32 | deltron | I forget the name that I use |
| 20:41.33 | Ominous | there are timers for heal dots, warlock curses, pally stiff |
| 20:41.39 | Ominous | mob abilites is a no no |
| 20:41.44 | kenlyric | like how long that curse is going to last on the tank, or how long last stand has left. |
| 20:41.46 | deltron | NECB is a great all-in-one tool |
| 20:42.24 | deltron | antagonist is probably what you want |
| 20:42.41 | deltron | antagonist is pretty sweet, it needs a couple shammy additions though |
| 20:43.01 | kergoth | ant isnt useful for your curses and stuff, only the abilities the enemies are using |
| 20:43.16 | deltron | I don't use curses :P |
| 20:43.45 | Ominous | kenlyric: it wld be easy to add if u knew the names |
| 20:44.14 | yacoob | Ominous, four categories of timers, I think. Timers related to world around you (like BigWigs), timers related to stuff you put on other people (debuffs, root/snare), timers for other stuff that people put on you (same), timers for other people's cd. |
| 20:44.15 | deltron | !seen Sole |
| 20:44.15 | Diao | Sole!n=chatzill@203-118-186-231.bliink.ihug.co.nz was last seen 8 hr 14 min 41 s ago on #wowace |
| 20:44.21 | deltron | ~seen sold |
| 20:44.46 | purl | deltron: i haven't seen 'sold' |
| 20:44.46 | deltron | sa;lfkj |
| 20:44.46 | deltron | ~seen sole |
| 20:44.54 | purl | sole <n=chatzill@203-118-186-231.bliink.ihug.co.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 27s ago, saying: 'before people start stirring up a storm'. |
| 20:44.54 | deltron | mob timers :) |
| 20:45.40 | deltron | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/combat/natur-enemycastbar/ <-- nice though can be a hog |
| 20:47.24 | heidaro | How come bigwigs doesn't have timers for the quake on mag like deadly bossmods? :< |
| 20:48.16 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r34836 10XPBarNone/ (Core.lua XPBarNoneLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 20:48.16 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 20:48.16 | CIA-23 | - Added screen clamping option, since some people have managed to push their XPBar off the screen. |
| 20:48.55 | kenlyric | druids get regular flight form for free, right? |
| 20:49.01 | kenlyric | or do they need to buy 225 riding skill? |
| 20:49.01 | heidaro | yea |
| 20:49.04 | deltron | heidaro: not set up yet I guess? |
| 20:49.30 | nevcairiel | for free |
| 20:49.31 | heidaro | not set up? |
| 20:49.32 | Megalon | kenlyric: they get the riding skill when they buy the spell |
| 20:49.58 | Megalon | and they get a riding crop for free with the epic flightform quest, ZOMG!!! |
| 20:49.59 | Megalon | :< |
| 20:50.09 | nevcairiel | in your face! |
| 20:50.28 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, cause riding crops are so hard to get. :P |
| 20:50.35 | Megalon | no |
| 20:50.41 | Megalon | because riding crops don't work with forms |
| 20:50.42 | Megalon | :x |
| 20:51.00 | heidaro | doing mag as we speak |
| 20:51.04 | heidaro | timers for everything except quake |
| 20:51.08 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r34837 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 20:51.08 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 20:51.09 | CIA-23 | - Fix typo. WHO ATE MY COMMA? |
| 20:51.37 | pastamancer | yum |
| 20:51.47 | deltron | mmmm ubuntu mobile |
| 20:51.53 | heidaro | and I haven't configed it at all really |
| 20:52.03 | Killmore | mag ? magmador ? |
| 20:52.14 | heidaro | maghteridon |
| 20:52.52 | heidaro | th* |
| 20:53.16 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r34838 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 20:53.16 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 20:53.16 | CIA-23 | - Fix another typo. Gief epic [Spell Checker] plz. |
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| 20:56.14 | ckknight | well, I just did an AB |
| 20:56.19 | ckknight | and didn't get any funky bugs |
| 20:57.24 | ckknight | is CIA slow? |
| 20:57.29 | ckknight | I just committed something |
| 20:57.41 | ckknight | buff sorting |
| 20:57.50 | phyber | yeah, seems to be taking a few seconds. |
| 20:57.56 | phyber | took maybe 10-15 for my last commit. |
| 20:58.09 | ckknight | 3 minutes now |
| 20:59.32 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34839 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 20:59.32 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura - tweak debuff sorting. Add buff sorting. |
| 20:59.33 | CIA-23 | Sorts by dispelType (debuffs only), then by name, then by ID. |
| 20:59.37 | CIA-23 | - sorts by default |
| 20:59.39 | CIA-23 | - make sure to get rid of old keys on deleted frames. |
| 20:59.41 | ckknight | there we go |
| 20:59.53 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 20:59.56 | ckknight | sbu: ^--- |
| 21:00.09 | phyber | interesting. I think WoWI is broken when addon owner ship is transferred and there were features/bugs transferred too. |
| 21:00.25 | phyber | trying to remove some stuff from the TopScoreFu feature/bug reports, it tells me there are 3 pages. |
| 21:00.28 | phyber | I can't view the 3rd page |
| 21:00.36 | phyber | and I can't delete some stuff since I'm not the owner. |
| 21:01.29 | syeren | ckknight, would it ever be possible to sort your own party in a Raid? |
| 21:01.38 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
| 21:01.44 | syeren | Like if I join BG with my friend, and then we're in different partys in the BG. |
| 21:01.47 | syeren | So annoying. |
| 21:01.47 | Cairenn | phyber: drop a note to dolby in the site bug forum |
| 21:01.53 | syeren | Just a custome party if you get me ;p |
| 21:01.59 | ckknight | syeren: so sort by group. |
| 21:01.59 | phyber | Cairenn: ahh, ok :) |
| 21:02.00 | nevcairiel | player targets |
| 21:02.00 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 21:02.04 | ckknight | syeren: or turn off hide party in raid |
| 21:02.47 | nevcairiel | nah he wants to free-form-sort, like drag 5 people from random partys into one |
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| 21:05.46 | sbu | ckknight: oh, nice :) |
| 21:05.47 | sbu | thank you |
| 21:05.48 | Kilroo | Hmm. Apparently I had the "focus" unit confused with the "mouseover" unit... |
| 21:05.51 | sbu | *testing* |
| 21:06.53 | Kilroo | What is the "casting" bar? |
| 21:06.58 | sbu | ckknight: hm... hasDuration, type, name, id would be better - or isnt there any 2.1 stuff in yet? |
| 21:07.14 | ckknight | no 2.1 stuff yet |
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| 21:07.49 | Funkeh` | i presume us didn't get patched? |
| 21:07.53 | Funkeh` | U.S. |
| 21:08.01 | sbu | kk |
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| 21:08.14 | Kilroo | Or was it just "castbar?" |
| 21:08.21 | sylvanaar | they prolly did some sort of prep work |
| 21:09.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 21:09.16 | knarf- | When does the amory actually update your charsr info ? |
| 21:09.21 | knarf- | every day at 00:00 ? |
| 21:10.52 | Cyrez | [2007/05/08 14:03:40-649-x1]: ItemBonusLib-1.0\ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua:199: '=' expected near 'SLOT_USAGE' |
| 21:10.52 | nymbia | how's it goin Kaelten |
| 21:10.52 | Kaelten | sleepy |
| 21:10.52 | Kaelten | you? |
| 21:10.52 | nymbia | not too bad |
| 21:10.53 | hyperChipmunk | knarf-: when you log out |
| 21:11.17 | Kaelten | thats good |
| 21:11.18 | Kaelten | :) |
| 21:11.22 | knarf- | I just logged out it was not updated :) |
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| 21:12.23 | ag` | syeren: nameList attribute should do what you want |
| 21:12.41 | ag` | allows you to create raidgroups with a list of player names |
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| 21:14.35 | Fisker- | dy helo thar ag` |
| 21:14.39 | evulhotdog | o.o |
| 21:14.57 | Punkie` | zomg ag` is back! |
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| 21:15.20 | yacoob | RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! |
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| 21:15.38 | yacoob | bots and people with nicks startings with letter 'y' first! |
| 21:16.29 | sylvanaar | honestly this issue with acedb overflowing the stack at logout and creating 100+ MB saved variables files is nuts, is there someone to report it to? |
| 21:16.49 | evulhotdog | how do you log in with the same username as before?> |
| 21:17.05 | sylvanaar | Kaelten what all needs to be fixed in wau |
| 21:18.26 | nymbia | latest.xml! |
| 21:19.09 | ckknight | sylvanaar: shouldn't do that. |
| 21:21.21 | nymbia | how could it? i mean, duplicate entries get overwritten.. |
| 21:23.08 | Ominous | sylvanaar: the confirmation doalogue when starting in vista where it asks you if you trust the prog |
| 21:24.48 | Stephmw | ckknight: your sorting fix is buggy |
| 21:25.02 | ckknight | you're buggy |
| 21:25.07 | Stephmw | ckknight: I have gotw and another buff swapping places every second |
| 21:25.12 | Stephmw | on my target frame |
| 21:25.30 | pastamancer | hooray for unstable sorts |
| 21:25.48 | nymbia | that shouldnt happen though |
| 21:25.54 | nymbia | unless the buffs are the same name |
| 21:25.59 | pastamancer | true |
| 21:26.07 | pastamancer | or at least have the same sort key |
| 21:26.09 | Stephmw | nah... the 2nd buff is actually not one my target should have |
| 21:26.13 | nymbia | yeah |
| 21:26.13 | pastamancer | I have no idea what it's sorting on |
| 21:26.15 | Stephmw | it's morten armor... on a druid?? |
| 21:26.18 | ckknight | nymbia: even then that should be taken care of |
| 21:26.36 | nymbia | oh yeah, i see |
| 21:26.38 | nymbia | name then id |
| 21:26.39 | ckknight | oh, I know the issue |
| 21:27.01 | nymbia | me too ;) |
| 21:27.11 | Stephmw | it's kinda funky |
| 21:27.17 | Funkeh` | whats funky |
| 21:27.27 | nymbia | Funkeh`: YOUR FACE |
| 21:27.28 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34841 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - fix buffsort |
| 21:27.29 | Stephmw | the flashing buffs |
| 21:27.41 | Funkeh` | nymbia: don't make me OWN you |
| 21:27.47 | nymbia | lol |
| 21:27.49 | Punkie` | im the real funky |
| 21:27.57 | Punkie` | Funkeh` is just an imposter |
| 21:28.02 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 21:28.10 | Funkeh` | nymbia is a wanabee |
| 21:28.21 | nymbia | Punkie`: but your face isnt funky |
| 21:28.37 | sylvanaar | well, i can give you the code change i made to Prat which causes it or pastey it for you |
| 21:28.49 | sylvanaar | Ominous you know you can change that yourself in vista |
| 21:28.49 | Funkeh` | yeah Punkie` WTF |
| 21:28.52 | Punkie` | nymbia: im funky all over |
| 21:28.55 | Punkie` | want to try me on? |
| 21:28.55 | Ominous | sylvannar: how |
| 21:29.00 | nymbia | hot |
| 21:30.59 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 21:31.01 | Ominous | s/sylvannar/sylvanaar/ |
| 21:31.02 | Funkeh` | im all turned on now |
| 21:31.08 | Funkeh` | rub me nymbia |
| 21:31.12 | nymbia | O.o |
| 21:31.42 | Funkeh` | what? you think i get Punkie` to do it? |
| 21:31.45 | Funkeh` | cmon, be realistic |
| 21:33.24 | Stephmw | thanks for the fix, no more flashing ;-) |
| 21:35.17 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
| 21:35.31 | Kilroo | Is there a Visor2 scripts thread somewheres? |
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| 21:40.38 | sylvanaar | http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/0d75f774-8514-4c9e-ac08-4c21f5c6c2d91033.mspx?mfr=true |
| 21:40.53 | sylvanaar | too bad he left |
| 21:41.24 | beerke | Lates BW doesn't seem to properly reset timers when the lurker emerges again from the water. |
| 21:45.10 | sylvanaar | anything which requires authenticode signing is a non-starter, since those signatures cost money |
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| 21:52.05 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34842 10Tattle/Tattle.lua: |
| 21:52.05 | CIA-23 | Tattle: |
| 21:52.05 | CIA-23 | - Fix for not displaying 3 teams. Thanks Ituron! |
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| 22:06.47 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34843 10Tattle/Tattle.toc: |
| 22:06.47 | CIA-23 | Tattle: |
| 22:06.47 | CIA-23 | - Add Ituron to credits. |
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| 22:07.36 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34844 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - make hovering over friendly debuffs show the right debuff. |
| 22:08.08 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34845 10Tattle/Tattle.toc: |
| 22:08.08 | CIA-23 | Tattle: |
| 22:08.08 | CIA-23 | - Oops, let's not add toc references to files that aren't in the repo yet. |
| 22:08.25 | Amadeo | I wanna see some screenshots of how peoples PitBulls look :P |
| 22:08.53 | Killmore | WAU down ? |
| 22:09.08 | Amadeo | Killmore: nope |
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| 22:10.07 | CIA-23 | 03mok * r34846 10GemList/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:10.07 | CIA-23 | GemList: |
| 22:10.07 | CIA-23 | - modified to work with upcoming patch 2.1 |
| 22:10.07 | CIA-23 | - french and korean locales need updates |
| 22:11.44 | CIA-23 | 03jerry * r34847 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: deutch translation, thanks Lokimur |
| 22:12.10 | Killmore | hmmm when I open WAU, I didnt see my addons, the addons available |
| 22:12.31 | Killmore | when I hit F5 I get |
| 22:12.31 | Killmore | Bypassing Cache, Reloading index from http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 22:12.31 | Killmore | Parsing 1 Entries In The Index File |
| 22:13.06 | nymbia | do you have the latest WAU? |
| 22:13.13 | Killmore | 1.7 |
| 22:13.14 | Amadeo | Killmore: Reload Index |
| 22:13.19 | Amadeo | under View |
| 22:13.28 | sylvanaar | check your internet connection |
| 22:13.45 | Amadeo | it happened to me once when files was down |
| 22:13.52 | Amadeo | WAU didn't want to recover until I reloaded the index |
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| 22:14.04 | Killmore | my internet connection is ok, im on IRC, MSN, I can surf the web, I can go to http://files.wowace.com/ without a problem |
| 22:18.03 | Amadeo | I think I deleted the WAU entries in documents and settings, then ran it again and reloaded the index...that's what fixed it for me..not sure if deleting stuff helped or not |
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| 22:22.46 | kergoth | opinion.. best main hand mutilate dagger pre-kara. grind for a riftmaker? |
| 22:22.56 | kergoth | got guile of khorazzi for the oh |
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| 22:23.08 | Amadeo | Guile? |
| 22:23.11 | Amadeo | Sonic Boom! |
| 22:27.24 | chutwig | oops |
| 22:27.25 | chutwig | i just put pitbull into config mode and Aura.lua exploded all over |
| 22:27.25 | chutwig | big mess! |
| 22:27.25 | sylvanaar | yeah, cache corruption is possible in which case you need to reload the index |
| 22:28.18 | sylvanaar | not reloading the cache on program load was a design point |
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| 22:31.50 | sylvanaar | decript.ion on files.wowace.com is blank |
| 22:32.03 | sylvanaar | server issue |
| 22:34.38 | *** join/#wowace mok (n=chatzill@e179052212.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:34.40 | sylvanaar | so, if you reload the cache you will no longer be able to update today until another file is generated or they release a new updater |
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| 22:35.20 | sylvanaar | also, its automatically reloaded when you update, so you only have one left |
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| 22:36.58 | sylvanaar | you missed everything i said killmore |
| 22:37.12 | Killmore | still same problem, I re-download WAU 1.7 :( |
| 22:37.21 | sylvanaar | decript.ion on files.wowace.com is blank |
| 22:37.28 | sylvanaar | so, if you reload the cache you will no longer be able to update today until another file is generated or they release a new updater |
| 22:37.37 | sylvanaar | also, its automatically reloaded when you update, so you only have one left |
| 22:37.38 | Killmore | oh! |
| 22:38.35 | wallen | nymbia: how can you run the dataminer.lua so that it updates all the European battlegroups only? It's pretty fast with European armory for me |
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| 22:46.27 | nymbia | wallen: at the top of data.lua, you'll see a list of battlegroups -- delete all the europe entries |
| 22:46.38 | nymbia | and they'll refresh |
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| 22:47.14 | CIA-23 | 03mok * r34848 10GemList/GemList.lua: |
| 22:47.14 | CIA-23 | GemList: |
| 22:47.14 | CIA-23 | - enchanting recipes will no longer rais an error :) |
| 22:47.26 | sbu | oh, mok is back? :o |
| 22:47.56 | mok | yay, have to since 2.1 is on the horizon :) |
| 22:50.30 | Megalon | hooray |
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| 22:51.14 | ZealotOnAStick | something wrong with files? WAU isn't getting a new index file. |
| 22:54.06 | nymbia | yeah, descript.ion is empty or somesuch |
| 22:54.52 | pastamancer | it's cute that you think I actually test changes to the files script. I just make changes and wait for people to complain on irc that wau broke |
| 22:55.16 | nymbia | haha |
| 22:55.26 | nymbia | testing is for the weak. |
| 22:55.30 | pastamancer | fyi, it's fixed |
| 22:56.41 | Stephmw | nymbia: damn straight, everyone should debug in their head |
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| 23:03.39 | kenlyric | testing is for when you get paid and they fire you for breaking stuff. |
| 23:04.17 | pastamancer | I certainly don't get paid enough to test /files |
| 23:04.56 | vhaarr | if you come to norway, I'll whip up some beers and a pizza |
| 23:04.59 | vhaarr | how's that for payment |
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| 23:05.50 | Gngsk | norway eh? |
| 23:06.24 | vhaarr | Gngsk: been here? |
| 23:06.45 | Gngsk | no, but I've always wanted to go |
| 23:07.49 | Gngsk | ever since I went to epcot (lol) norway and japan were the 2 places that seemed coolest |
| 23:08.11 | vhaarr | lol |
| 23:08.33 | kenlyric | agreed, lol |
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| 23:09.00 | Gngsk | of course, the fist time I went I was like 7 years old |
| 23:09.32 | vhaarr | haha, I just had to read up on the norwegian pavilion on wikipedia, and it says |
| 23:09.41 | vhaarr | ".. nearly as many people visit Epcot as live in Norway .. " |
| 23:09.44 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 23:09.57 | Gngsk | hahaha |
| 23:10.22 | Gngsk | and it's probably nothing what norway is really like, but it's pretty cool |
| 23:10.56 | vhaarr | depends what you visit in norway |
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| 23:11.23 | winkiller | mhm, I'm using too many addons |
| 23:11.23 | pastamancer | I hear booze is cheaper in norway than in sweden |
| 23:11.58 | vhaarr | I don't think it is, but even if that's true, it's still expensive compared to the rest of the world |
| 23:12.13 | vhaarr | I haven't been to sweden in 4-5 years, but back then it was cheaper in sweden at least |
| 23:12.13 | pastamancer | damn |
| 23:12.16 | pastamancer | that's a shame |
| 23:12.18 | haste | it's cheaper in sweden |
| 23:12.23 | vhaarr | right |
| 23:12.31 | vhaarr | and beer is expensive, too |
| 23:12.49 | vhaarr | like $8-9 for a beer at pubs maybe? |
| 23:12.59 | pastamancer | ouch |
| 23:13.44 | ag` | that's like 40-50kr |
| 23:13.50 | pastamancer | so much for that plan |
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| 23:14.01 | ag` | I thought that it would be more expensive in norway/sweden |
| 23:14.34 | vhaarr | hm, well I haven't been to a normal bar in a while, and I always just leave my visa, so I don't really know how much a beer is, exactly |
| 23:14.36 | ag` | depends on the size of that beer I guess, but they could take 40-50 for a beer in denmark too |
| 23:14.38 | vhaarr | maybe haste knows |
| 23:14.41 | haste | I think it's at least 55NOK |
| 23:14.44 | vhaarr | right |
| 23:14.46 | haste | I never drink at pubs :p |
| 23:14.51 | vhaarr | so that would be $9-10 |
| 23:15.23 | vhaarr | ag`: it's cheaper in denmark, that much I know :P |
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| 23:16.03 | haste | I should think about going to bed.. since I have an exam in like.. 8 hours :p |
| 23:16.13 | vhaarr | good luck :p |
| 23:17.19 | vhaarr | haha; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maelstrom_%28ride%29: "Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow." warning at the "The ride" section. |
| 23:17.19 | evulhotdog | anybody play CS? |
| 23:17.19 | Tain | Photoshop CS |
| 23:17.19 | vhaarr | "The boats then pass through scenes of polar bears." lol |
| 23:18.12 | vhaarr | why the hell would it do that? we don't have polar bears in norway at all :P |
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| 23:18.27 | winkiller | glad I'm here |
| 23:18.36 | winkiller | 3 EUR/beer in pubs :P |
| 23:18.48 | vhaarr | germany? |
| 23:18.48 | winkiller | and it tastes better |
| 23:18.50 | Tain | hahah just saw the new Mac vs PC commercial with the Mac Genius. "On a scale of 1 to 10 how much do I loathe Mac?" "Eleven." |
| 23:18.53 | winkiller | :) |
| 23:19.36 | Megalon | 3 eur? |
| 23:19.36 | Megalon | more expensive than over here :P |
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| 23:19.36 | winkiller | I doubt the quality :P |
| 23:19.47 | Megalon | doubt what you want :) |
| 23:20.05 | Megalon | i don't drink beer so, the quality doesn't bother me that much |
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| 23:21.35 | Megalon | the only thing i know is that czech beers are the best, at least alot of people told me that |
| 23:21.55 | vhaarr | I've heard that, too |
| 23:22.25 | vhaarr | but then again, czech people drink more beer than anyone else in the world |
| 23:22.30 | Megalon | :DD |
| 23:22.46 | Tain | Oh yeah well I drink more rum than anyone else in the world. |
| 23:22.53 | vhaarr | they drink like 160 liters per year per person or so |
| 23:24.00 | ckknight | what's the role of shamans end-game? |
| 23:24.14 | vhaarr | all 3 talent trees are viable |
| 23:24.18 | pastamancer | pretend that they're useful |
| 23:24.19 | vhaarr | for end-game raiding |
| 23:24.21 | Tain | I think I almost drink that much rum in a year. |
| 23:24.27 | Kilroo | What information is provided by the casting bar? Or was it just "castbar?" It's in both Pitbull and Aloft I believe. |
| 23:24.52 | vhaarr | but they're not the best class for anything, they're just a great support class. |
| 23:25.03 | ckknight | Kilroo: current spell being cast |
| 23:25.15 | Kilroo | Ahh. |
| 23:25.27 | Kilroo | Hey, while I'm thinking about it...What are the chances of Pitbull eventually having the ability to tell a given frame to copy the settings from another given frame? Or is that already there and I missed it? |
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| 23:29.03 | sylvanaar | so you live in norway vhaarr, i wouldnt have guessed |
| 23:30.29 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: indeed, how so? |
| 23:31.41 | Aenslaed | does anyone know how to reset dreamchat? It doesn't show up on my UI and I have no idea what the /command is for its menus |
| 23:31.59 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: delete SVs? :) |
| 23:32.06 | kergoth | littlewigs murmur mod is off. its whispering about sonic boom like 2 seconds after he emoted |
| 23:32.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:32.23 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: I dont know what that means |
| 23:32.31 | Roartindon | Delete Saved Variables files |
| 23:32.44 | Roartindon | Log out, go to WTF/Account/<Your Account>/SavedVariables |
| 23:33.14 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: that's because you have to hold 'back' for two seconds, then forward+punch to do sonic boom |
| 23:33.17 | Roartindon | It's the surefire way to completely reset an addon, and lose any settings you had before |
| 23:33.27 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: lol |
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| 23:33.42 | Megalon | hrhrh hyperChipmunk :DDD |
| 23:33.42 | hyperChipmunk | see, he emotes at the start |
| 23:33.53 | Roartindon | hyperChipmunk: I hated that 2 second thing.. the arcane had no such 2 second requirement |
| 23:34.09 | Hellis | anyone know how i can search a variable for a string contained within the variable? |
| 23:34.18 | Roartindon | string.find |
| 23:34.19 | vhaarr | str:find(str2) |
| 23:34.40 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
| 23:34.42 | Hellis | ok thank you |
| 23:34.43 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: ok, thanks! |
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| 23:35.52 | Kilroo | The effects of Camouflage and Master of Deception used to be all part of the same talent, didn't they? |
| 23:37.18 | sylvanaar | can anyone tell me why this code causes AceDB to create 100MB+ SV files? |
| 23:37.21 | sylvanaar | http://ace.pastey.net/24589 |
| 23:38.56 | Aenslaed | hum, guess dreamchat still doesn't work yet :/ |
| 23:39.03 | Roartindon | Got a snippet of huge SV file? |
| 23:39.10 | Roartindon | To give an idea of what AceDB is writing out? |
| 23:39.30 | Thrae | Aenslaed: You must be too unimaginative! |
| 23:40.46 | sylvanaar | how much of the 50megs should i show |
| 23:41.31 | Roartindon | Well, I figured 100MB is some error somewhere, and there might be a pattern? |
| 23:41.50 | sylvanaar | it looks like its outputting the frames |
| 23:43.24 | nymbia | the frames are probably in there somewhere, then.. |
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| 23:43.33 | sylvanaar | actually it looks like a dump of everything there is |
| 23:44.10 | sylvanaar | other addons etc |
| 23:44.21 | Roartindon | Hmm.. in Aloft |
| 23:44.30 | Roartindon | I used local db = Aloft:AcquireDBNamespae(namespace) |
| 23:44.50 | Roartindon | And recurseively SetKeys from (db.profile, srcprofile) |
| 23:45.06 | sylvanaar | yes, i dont call aquire namespace, i use iterate modules |
| 23:45.17 | knarf- | Roartindon soooo, with Aloft you could actually make a sheep identifier? :) |
| 23:45.21 | sylvanaar | http://ace.pastey.net/24590 |
| 23:45.36 | Roartindon | knarf-: I did a long time ago, haven't bothered to update it due to all of the stupid restrictions |
| 23:45.42 | knarf- | fair enough |
| 23:45.44 | knarf- | :P |
| 23:45.52 | Roartindon | It's on the first page of the Aloft thread :) |
| 23:46.10 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: Where's "DB" defined? |
| 23:46.16 | knarf- | Roartindon hehe |
| 23:46.40 | sylvanaar | its a copy of my saved variables |
| 23:46.46 | sylvanaar | pasted back in |
| 23:47.17 | sylvanaar | I looks just like what you see at the start of the pastey |
| 23:47.43 | nymbia | some naughty module maybe settng _G as part of it's db..? |
| 23:48.00 | Roartindon | that should show up as the parent of all those globals |
| 23:48.34 | nymbia | yup |
| 23:49.09 | Roartindon | autolod.Frames ? |
| 23:49.21 | Hellis | how can i use an if statement along with that string.find() command... the text i'm looking for could be either in lower, upper, or mixed case |
| 23:49.35 | Roartindon | hellis: convert the string to upper first |
| 23:49.37 | Roartindon | or lower |
| 23:50.01 | Roartindon | eg. stringContainingSomething:upper() |
| 23:50.01 | Roartindon | Then do a find on it |
| 23:50.01 | Roartindon | stringContainingSomething:upper():find("WHAT_IM_SEARCHING_FOR") |
| 23:50.22 | sylvanaar | here is DB's definition http://ace.pastey.net/24593 |
| 23:50.22 | Roartindon | that'll return nil if nothing is found, non-nil if something is found |
| 23:51.31 | Roartindon | something is setting DB.profiles |
| 23:51.35 | Roartindon | not just DB.namespaces[..] |
| 23:52.17 | Roartindon | hmm.. that may not be right |
| 23:52.47 | Roartindon | line 933 looks like the start of your problems tho |
| 23:53.52 | Hellis | how could i do multiple searches for different strings? |
| 23:53.54 | nymbia | sylvanaar: profiles->Default->autolod->frames |
| 23:54.00 | Hellis | all within the same if statement |
| 23:54.08 | Hellis | w/o using nested if's |
| 23:54.15 | Roartindon | combine them with "and" or "or" |
| 23:54.24 | Hellis | alright thanks a lot |
| 23:57.07 | Roartindon | sylvannar: Separate unrelated question |
| 23:57.36 | sylvanaar | nymbia what about it ? |
| 23:57.54 | Roartindon | in that code, if the table doesn't exist, is does it actually put it in the right spot? |
| 23:58.06 | Roartindon | eg. imagine m.db.profile = nil |
| 23:58.11 | Roartindon | it calls tableMerge(src, dst, replace) |
| 23:58.15 | Roartindon | dst is nil now |
| 23:58.26 | Roartindon | then it does the if dst == nil check.. and sets a local table up? |
| 23:58.38 | nymbia | sylvanaar: that's where you're storing _G |
| 23:58.55 | nymbia | or something else with lotsa frames.. |
| 23:59.48 | sylvanaar | autolod is a boolean |
