IRC log for #wowace on 20070507

00:00.03RoartindonAnd that particular issue has been fixed with it
00:00.33NimbleRabitk I just updated thanks
00:00.38NimbleRabitany answer to my earlier question about making the health loss clearer without changing textures?
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00:05.24Scre3mthe same 10 mods are updating to the same version every time i run wowaceupdater (1.7 final): Cartographer_ExtraGas, ClearFont2_FontPack_1, FuBar_MicroMenu, FuBar_PetFu, IceHUD, LitheTooltipDoctor, Teknicolor, TinyTip, and VitalWatch
00:06.39ThorgardEesh.. is there any way to know if you've turned /pvp on or off without actually using the command? (don't want to reset the 5 minute 'cooldown')
00:06.52ckknightyes, there is some way.
00:07.17Hotphoenixright click on your portrait it shows a tick next to on or off
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00:09.46ckknightif Europe falls into an ice age, wouldn't they just invade a warmer area? e.g. Africa or the Middle East
00:10.20ZiconHell no, we'd enjoy it. Summers are too warm as it is.
00:10.20ckknightthat'd be my plan
00:10.39ckknightZicon: in an ice age, there'd be a drastic food, water, and resource shortage
00:10.49ckknightas well as other situations such as sewer breakage
00:11.02ckknightwhich would eventually lead up to a localized economic collapse
00:11.28venI would just stop eating, drinking and breathing then -_-
00:11.29ZiconWell aren't you a party pooper.
00:11.42CryectZicon wants the glaciers to come back!
00:12.10ckknightmy idea would be to transplant the European people to Africa or the Middle East
00:12.29Cryectis there enough land in the middle east for them?
00:12.46ckknightas long as the people in those areas are dispensed with
00:12.50ckknighti.e. militarily
00:13.18chutwigman
00:13.20Hotphoenixnuking the middle east would certainly solve a few problems ;)
00:13.26chutwigpitbull's raid frames were fine for a while and now they're all wonky again
00:13.36ckknightI'd figure a more conventional military push
00:13.46ckknightarmed migration, if you will
00:13.59ckknightmuch like how the Aryans moved into India back in the day
00:15.07Nimblesylvanaar, not a big deal but I just had somebody who I didn't have player data for speak in White when I have it set to Gray and it's gray for everyone else
00:15.15Nimblesylvanaar, he was <afk> I don't know if that had somethign to do with it
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00:18.23CIA-2303fenlis * r34684 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua:
00:18.23CIA-23BigWigs:
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00:18.28KirkburnHey awesome! I just noticed the AFK note on Pitbull
00:19.00kergothyeah thats sweet
00:19.35ckknightyep :-)
00:20.09ckknightbasically, the precedence is D/C'd > AFK > Dead > Ghost > health
00:20.45ckknightI don't think it goes far enough, though, I think maybe I should put a mechanism in to disconnect you if you turn AFK in a raid
00:20.49ckknightthat'd help things, right?
00:20.50ckknight:-P
00:20.58ckknight(jk)
00:21.02kergothhehe
00:21.05ckknightforced logouts are lame.
00:21.23Scre3mthe same 10 mods are updating to the same version every time i run wowaceupdater (1.7 final): Cartographer_ExtraGas, ClearFont2_FontPack_1, FuBar_MicroMenu, FuBar_PetFu, IceHUD, LitheTooltipDoctor, Teknicolor, TinyTip, and VitalWatch
00:21.28Scre3many ideas?
00:21.30ckknightnope.
00:24.17Nimbleckknight, the new (cat) when a druid in cat form is funny
00:24.36ckknightwhy's that?
00:24.37Scre3mis there a place for bugs/problem on the website?
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00:24.57Nimblejust because it seems so useless it made me laugh
00:24.59Nimbleyet I like it still
00:25.00Nimblelol
00:25.44NimbleI mean it's just so funny to see a druid shift into cat, the mana bar to turn yellow, and then (cat) to show up
00:25.50Nimbleas if the mana bar isn't yellow =P
00:26.06ckknighthey, sometimes people (like me) need an extra reminder
00:26.08Nimbleand moonkin doesn't work which is the one that would actually be useful
00:26.10ckknightI don't use portraits
00:26.26ckknightyea, sadly it only figures out now by checking whether they have rage/energy
00:26.33Nimbleoh I know some people might like it, just saying it's funny for me
00:27.01NimblePortraits? huh?  You mean mana/energy/rage bar?
00:27.04NimbleI don't use portraits either
00:28.05NimbleHey thanks for a great mod though, I love PitBull
00:29.07ckknightI need advice
00:29.26ckknightI think portraits are lame and don't look good for PitBull. Should I disable them by default?
00:29.34ckknightI mean, you'd easily be able to turn em on
00:30.21KemayoFeatures that are disabled by default are harder for people to discover, would be my only concern.
00:30.49NimbleYES
00:30.50RoartindonI think portraits are obvious enough for people to click enable
00:30.51Nimbledisable them by default
00:30.58ckknightif every feature is on then it makes it look too complex
00:31.02Nimblethey are so ugly for PitBull
00:31.09ckknightand they become scared and don't like the whole thing
00:31.18Ordogis any of you used to pandora.com and residing outside the u s ?
00:31.22RoartindonI think disabling is fair
00:31.28RoartindonI disable more than half of Aloft's options by default
00:31.28NimbleMy friend had them on and when I turned them off for him he liked it way more
00:32.10NimbleEvery single person I know plays with them off Ck
00:32.36RoartindonI play with them on :) But I think having people look to enable features is preferable than having 'too many' that it overwhelms
00:32.52CIA-2303ckknight * r34685 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull_Portrait - portraits are lame. Hidden by default.
00:33.19ckknightreputation is off by default
00:33.25ckknightso is experience (for player only, not pet)
00:34.02unduArgh. Isn't the Babble-2.2 folder kinda useless now, since it's only used so the packaging system works via WAU?
00:34.12RoartindonMy philosophy with Aloft was - disable anything not provided by the default in game nameplates. Everything additional is an option to be enabled by the user
00:34.55Roartindonundu: Nope, people that update without externals use BabbleLib and the inside Babble-2.2 folder
00:34.59Andunehmm.  When I try to browse 'TradeSkill Mats' in PT3browser, it gives me an 'Invalid Set' error.  I tried deleting and re-pulling PT3 from WAU, but same error.  What am I missing and how do I get it?
00:36.50kergothRoartindon: good philosophy
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00:43.13NimbleRoartindon, the guild names doesn't work for horde?
00:45.36CIA-2303fenlis * r34686 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua:
00:45.36CIA-23BigWigs:
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00:46.15Mikmackknight is lame, hide by default.
00:48.06RoartindonNimble: Yes, it does. I'm horde, and it works for me. And it works when I'm on my alliance alt too.
00:48.23NimbleMaybe it doesn't work in arena only
00:48.25Nimblebut it wasn't working
00:48.55Nimbleoh yeah it's working fine in Shat
00:49.06Nimbleit didn't work in my 2v2 arena game, next game I'll try again and let you know
00:50.54Scre3mfyi, the problem was witht the mirror
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00:59.38ff29um....
01:00.06ff29is the author of clear font here
01:00.18KirkburnYes
01:01.02ff29nice
01:01.09ff29i have a question for you
01:01.27ff29i noticed ur pics on ui.woorldofwar
01:01.50ff29and i like the way your ui is orginized
01:02.34ff29can u give me any idea on what i should get to start custamizeing it more to what you have
01:04.04CIA-2303ckknight * r34687 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - uses a custom debuff filtering system now. This is mostly so my priest alt can finally see the damn Weakened Soul debuff.
01:04.19Kirkburnff29, sorry, got distracted by dieing :P
01:04.29ff29lol its cool
01:04.38Ziconckknight: I think I love you now.
01:04.45ThraeKirkburn: s/dieing/dying/
01:04.45KirkburnThere's a list of the addons from those screenshots on the official site, clearfont.co.uk
01:04.52KirkburnShush :(
01:05.22KirkburnMy UI is actually quite different to the screenshots now
01:05.38KirkburnMost of what you can see is agUF and Bartender 3
01:06.08ff29so are u constatly changing it i take it
01:06.12ckknightgah, something's wrong now
01:06.34Kirkburnff29, well, not really, I don't change that often
01:06.54ff29and one last question, is it a pain to change the ui even w/ the right mods
01:07.02KirkburnNope, not at all
01:07.05ff29ok
01:07.18ff29b/c iv wanted to change it but never knew what to get or how to change it
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01:08.51ff29kirk would you mind if i kept you in mind if i have any other random questions
01:09.05KirkburnNo
01:09.12KirkburnNp :/
01:09.15ff29lol
01:09.20KirkburnSeriously, it's the keyboard I tell you!
01:09.57ff29thanx again
01:10.14ff29now this is a general question what is this irc channel for
01:10.20KirkburnBtw, I replaced agUF with Pitbull, it's sort of like a successor
01:10.29ckknightyep, Kirkburn
01:10.34ckknightI took a lot of inspiration from agUF
01:10.41ckknightff29: wowace addons.
01:10.43KirkburnQuestions about Ace mods :)
01:10.58KirkburnThere's #wowi-lounge for more general addon chat
01:10.58Chompersirc is for sexy time
01:11.06KirkburnAnd there's #wowwiki for ... WoWWiki stuff
01:11.14KirkburnAlso what Chompers said
01:11.20Chompersand i mean REAL sexy time
01:11.26ff29lol
01:13.38CIA-2303ckknight * r34688 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - bugfix to debuff filtering
01:23.41theoddone33now i've decided to get exalted with tranquilan on my 70 undead rogue
01:23.46theoddone33this is pretty sad
01:24.16vodrinis tranquilian horde nagrand rep ?
01:24.30theoddone3310-20 blood elf rep
01:25.13theoddone33you get a 9 stam cloak at exalted iirc!
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01:27.34ckknighthey, that's pretty nice for the level
01:27.50theoddone33it's extremely nice
01:27.55theoddone33I replaced it around level 43 on my paladin
01:28.00ckknightlol
01:28.29theoddone33it's a fun rep because all the quests give you like 2500 rep
01:29.47theoddone33although, honestly the draenai starting area is the best in the game
01:30.06Amadeowhat's the worst? everyone always does the best
01:30.19theoddone33just in my opinion, mulgore
01:30.27AmadeoI hate the BE area...too much running
01:30.37Amadeoyeah Mulgore is similar with the running
01:30.43theoddone33yup
01:30.54Amadeoprobably worse overall
01:30.59theoddone33I think I've actually done all the starting areas
01:31.07AmadeoI may have also
01:31.25AmadeoDwarf/Gnome area is pretty easy
01:31.33theoddone33yeah it's not bad at all
01:31.38theoddone33and you get alittle pet you can't get on horde side
01:31.42theoddone33the rabbit
01:31.46Amadeohehe
01:33.31theoddone33I can't think of what the other alliance one is
01:33.34theoddone33oh human
01:33.54chutwigSSC trash
01:33.55chutwigSO MUCH FUN
01:33.57AmadeoHuman area is ok, I don't like Elwynn though
01:33.59CIA-2303sutorix * r34689 10FishingAce/FishingAce.lua: FishingAce: use cancel event in the right place for the lure code, now that I've figured out that MetroGnome is gone
01:34.08theoddone33yeah
01:34.21theoddone33I don't think I've done elwynn, just the super lowbie area there
01:34.30AmadeoWestfall sucks
01:34.31theoddone33I went to IF heh
01:34.41AmadeoGoretusk Livers :(
01:35.07theoddone33i've actually seen the westfall cooking recipes on horde side AH
01:36.13Brunerswhen do darkmoon faire open ?
01:36.27Bruners*about when are they done building
01:36.39theoddone33sometime today I think?
01:45.17NimbleI hate the NE 1-10 place
01:45.19Nimbleteladrassil
01:46.02ckknightgah, figured out why the debuffHighlight wasn't working :-P
01:52.49CIA-2303ckknight * r34690 10PitBull/Aura/ (Aura.lua border.tga debuffHighlight.tga): PitBull_Aura - use a better highlight texture than the blizzard-provided quest one, as it can't show Blue (magic) debuffs.
01:53.11hyperChipmunkckknight: haven't been paying att'n; did you see my remark about treeform earlier?
01:53.26ckknightno
01:53.40hyperChipmunkdruids say (Cat), (Bear), etc
01:53.44ckknightright
01:53.54ckknighthow do you detect treeform without scanning buffs?
01:53.58hyperChipmunki didn't see treeform
01:54.04hyperChipmunkoh, i duno
01:54.16ckknightthen no treeform for you
01:54.24hyperChipmunkfigure the same way you did the others
01:54.27hyperChipmunkflight too
01:55.15hyperChipmunkah, if it not possible, no big deal; just thought i'd mention
01:55.18hyperChipmunkafk =p
01:55.37ckknightnot possible without figuring out buffs, currently
01:55.38theoddone33it's stance 5 for macros, surely you have access to taht somehow
01:55.47ckknightno, not for other units.
01:55.51theoddone33but that could also be moonkin
01:55.53theoddone33ah
01:56.15Arrowmastertheoddone33: i got exalted tranquilian on my 70 warlock over 2 days of helping with quests
01:56.30theoddone33yeah I think i can do it pretty quick
01:56.42theoddone33I'm just worried that the little bloodelves will gang up on me for stealing their kills
01:56.48kergothi've never been exalted with any faction on any of my chars
01:57.22Arrowmasteri just went around blowing stuff up with SoC
01:57.45Arrowmasterkilling entire ziggarutes with one spell cast is fun
01:58.20kergothckknight: will pitbull's buff/debuff filtering let me see only my poisons on the target, on my rogue? thatd be useful
01:58.22theoddone33I wouldn't minda  chocobo actually
01:58.26theoddone33but that rep grind is a little more significant
01:58.52Arrowmastermeh i was honored with silvermoon the day of release
01:59.01Ordoghas someone any tiny bit of information about some shaman advantage above paladins?
01:59.10theoddone33I'm halfway through honored
01:59.14theoddone33"Thanks, AV!"
01:59.18ArrowmasterOrdog: there are none
01:59.25Ordogthats what i feared ...
01:59.31ckknightkergoth:
01:59.33ckknight*shrug*
01:59.35Arrowmasteri just had a ton of runecloth with nothing to do with
01:59.47theoddone33that's not a bad idea
01:59.49theoddone33but AV is faster rep
01:59.50ckknightkergoth: potentially in 2.1
01:59.51ckknightnot sure, though
01:59.55Ordogi want to be an imba healer and if i want be a tank damnit
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02:00.25Ordoginstead of a second class healer or second class melee dps or second class ranged dps ...
02:00.36Ordog*whine*
02:00.50Ordogsry for that i have to do that at least once a month
02:00.55Arrowmasterwith the right gear and proper spec shamans arent second class in any of those roles
02:01.13Ordogya my gear sucks ^^
02:01.16theoddone33except tank
02:01.19ckknightwe should legislate equal treatment for shamans
02:01.22ckknightand reparations!
02:01.36Arrowmasteryeah shamans can never tank
02:01.46Ordogreparations sounds great!
02:02.10Arrowmasteralthough we did have a shaman tank the last boss in sethekk halls once
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02:02.23Ordogsomebody played warcraft III ? i want the rhasta ultimate totem!
02:02.37Arrowmasterbut he was on his shitty warrior alt for everything before the last boss
02:03.07theoddone33nothing against shamans, but I don't know how they'd keep aggro
02:03.15theoddone33didn't they remove the extra threat from rockbiter?
02:03.19PHL-Chuckugg, my PC blew up and my wow cd's are in storage, I found a link to the TBC installer, anyone know if blizz has a download for the original in any form?
02:03.26Ordogfrostshock generates aggro
02:04.05HotphoenixPHL-Chuck you can download the demo copy off their site i think
02:04.08Hotphoenixsame thing
02:04.30PHL-ChuckI tried and the stupid thing wont let me cause I already have an account
02:04.36PHL-ChuckI guess I can create a new on
02:04.38PHL-Chuckone
02:15.02theoddone33ckknight: do treeform druids show up as elemental?
02:15.11theoddone33that might be a way to check
02:15.48ckknightpossibly
02:15.49ckknightfind out
02:20.14ZealotOnAStickThey're banishable.
02:20.28theoddone33that answers taht, then
02:20.35theoddone33and is quite hilarious
02:20.45ZealotOnAStickI had much glee in WSG when I discovered that pre-expansion.
02:23.14ckknighttheoddone33: really what there needs to be is some event(s) that fires when they shift and some API call(s) to figure out what they currently are
02:24.04theoddone33I doubt they'd add that, though
02:24.24theoddone33which is sad
02:25.01cladhaireyou guys are trying to figure something out re:druids?
02:25.07theoddone33because with druids you can tell by looking, but I dno't think you're "supposed" to know what stance a warrior is in
02:25.28theoddone33but warriors have a "gain's bleh stance" I think
02:27.00Arrowmasterare you trying to tell what form another player is in?
02:27.34CIA-2303evonder * r34691 10FuBar_CheckFearWardFu/ (4 files):
02:27.34CIA-23FuBar_CheckFearWardFu:
02:27.34CIA-23- Added configurable warning outputs
02:27.34CIA-23- Added German translation(google)
02:27.42theoddone33yeah, I guess
02:28.12theoddone33I'm sorta just throwing out ideas
02:28.26CIA-2303ckknight * r34692 10PitBull/Aura/ (Aura.lua debuffHighlightBorder.tga): PitBull_Aura - add the option to change the border style of highlights. Options between the normal style (a gradient that goes across the center) and border.
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02:28.48ckknightcladhaire: yea, figure out what their current form is
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02:29.21cladhaireyou can figure out which bonus bar they're on, and which form that corresponds to without much issue
02:29.49cladhairei think there's an event when the magical buttons change too
02:30.31ckknightbonus bar?
02:30.39theoddone33mana/rage/energy
02:30.42ckknightah
02:30.45ckknightyea, I do that now
02:30.46cladhaireno
02:30.53cladhairethe stance/form/stealth buttons
02:30.58ckknightcladhaire: not just for player
02:31.05cladhaireah
02:31.09cladhairethat's what i was confused about =)
02:31.33theoddone33between mana/range/energy and beast/humanoid/elemental it should be fairly accurate, but I dunno if you just want an event
02:32.01Arrowmastercan you get the model name for units?
02:32.29Arrowmasteror portrait image name?
02:32.34ThraeGetBonusBarOffset() is your friend
02:32.53cladhaireyou could getmodel
02:32.55cladhaireeasily
02:33.04cladhairethere's only two models, one for each faction :P
02:33.27ckknightcladhaire: still wondering about an event that'd fire on the shift, though
02:33.42cladhairethere wouldn't be one, since UNIT_AURA doesn't fire.
02:33.56ckknight"UNIT_MODEL_CHANGED"
02:33.57ThraeUPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS should fire on any stance change
02:34.06cladhaireckknight: oh good call =)
02:34.09ThraeIf you are talking about what I think you're talkin gabout
02:34.09ckknightThrae: just for player, though
02:34.13cladhairei think its a delayed event tho
02:34.16ckknightThrae: we need more than player
02:34.17ThraeOhhh
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02:34.21cladhairewon't fire immediately
02:34.28Arrowmasteryup theres a few different events for when a characters model or image changes
02:34.29ckknightcladhaire: I'm not too worried about that
02:34.33cladhaireaye
02:34.53ckknight"UNIT_PORTRAIT_UPDATE"
02:35.06ThraeSo, what are we talking about here?
02:35.08ckknightI think if I check both of those, I'll be fine
02:35.14ckknightThrae: getting the form of a random unit.
02:35.33Thraeckknight: What -type- of form? I don't think a Warrior's model changes when he goes into a stance, does it?
02:35.41cladhairedruids, in this case.
02:35.51ckknightjust care about druids
02:35.58TainNo one cares about druids.
02:36.12winkilleris there some help on creating pitbull layouts? at first glance it looks like hell of a work if you haven't touched lua yet
02:36.30Arrowmasterlearn lua first
02:36.30ThraeFor Druids, use UNIT_MANA or UNIT_POWER events. Both are fired for all players when they change to any form where they don't have mana.
02:37.00ArrowmasterThrae: but what about caster to travel/moonkin/tree/flight form?
02:37.00cladhairethat doesn't help caster > tree
02:37.11cladhairemodel/portait is the best way to manage it.
02:37.34Thraecladhaire: Well, depends on what you are using it for
02:37.57ckknightThrae: to get the current form.
02:38.04ckknightI want tree form
02:38.20ThraeTheoretically, yeah, using the model would work...but why would you need that for another player?
02:38.25ckknightPitBull
02:38.36ckknightwell, DogTag
02:38.37ckknightit's a tag
02:38.42ckknight[DruidForm], that is
02:39.14ThraeWhat would people do with it?
02:39.42KilrooThere should be a website with a lot of Lua tutorials.
02:39.51KilrooIt should be called Lua University.
02:39.58ThraeKilroo: Are you asking for one?
02:39.58KilrooOr LuaU for short.
02:40.12KilrooNo, I'm advocating a bad play on words.
02:40.29ckknightThrae: it's handy to have Druid (Bear)
02:40.41KilrooYes, it is.
02:40.57Thraeckknight: If its other players, you should confirm the range of UPDATE_PORTRAIT or whatever vs just using combat log parsing
02:41.15KilrooEspecially when you're almost about to get your party wiped because the warrior is half Fury and half something else and can't hold aggro.
02:41.29ckknightnot going to parse the combat log.
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02:44.02ckknightokay, the model seems to be the best way
02:44.09Thraeckknight: Well if you really want to optimize, use UNIT_MANA unless the user wants Tree, Moonkin, or Traveling forms ;)
02:44.21ThraeSaves you a whole table / function!
02:44.24ckknightI have that already, and it's UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER
02:44.42ckknightnow here's what I need: the path to the different forms
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02:45.19ckknightbasically, just the Tree, Boomkin, Seacow, Travelling, and Bird forms
02:45.57ThraeFor Bird forms, isn't there a FLYING event?
02:46.09ckknightI'm just gonna use UPDATE_PORTRAIT
02:46.13ckknightor whatever it is
02:46.27ckknightit's not crucial for that
02:47.59ckknightbear is apparently "Creature\\DruidBear\\DruidBear" for NEs
02:48.05ckknightdon't know the others
02:49.01ThraeHmmm, what's the difference between UNIT_AURA and UNIT_AURASTATE?
02:49.24theoddone33heh, model changing forums to the rescue
02:49.33hyperChipmunkThrae: it's great for those who don't have portraits on
02:49.45hyperChipmunkespecially in WSG
02:49.50theoddone33DruidCat\\DruidCat
02:49.58theoddone33DruidCatTauren
02:50.05theoddone33not sure of the exact paths
02:50.09theoddone33is there a way to test in-game?
02:50.14hyperChipmunkscanning the mpq now
02:50.17hyperChipmunkgimme a min
02:50.18ckknighthyperChipmunk: thanks
02:50.42theoddone33travel appears to be Tiger
02:50.52ckknightDruidTiger\\DruidTiger?
02:51.10ThraehyperChipmunk: I still don't get it -- why would people need to know if a Druid is in a form or not?
02:51.12theoddone33I'm reading a modelchanging forum so I don't have the exact paths, just the results of some program
02:51.27hyperChipmunkif you can't see them, it's helpful to know
02:51.45hyperChipmunki.e. if the druid is in travel form already, then you get on your horse and go for cut-off
02:51.56hyperChipmunkif the druid is a bear, he's probably still in the flag room
02:51.59hyperChipmunkor the tunnel
02:52.34KilrooOut of curiosity
02:52.51ckknightalso, if he's in druid form that means track beasts works on him.
02:52.55hyperChipmunkyep
02:52.56ThraeHeh, I run the flag in Bear Form a lot
02:52.57ckknightrather than track humanoids
02:53.00Kilroocan you think of a time when the thing on which you are working would be useful to someone who does neither raids nor battlegrounds?
02:53.10Kilroonor PVP, in case it matters?
02:53.26ckknightKilroo: healers who want to judge the amount of health
02:53.26ckknightetc.
02:53.29ckknightor something
02:53.40Kilroohm
02:53.43Kilroomkay.
02:53.51KilrooI'm a rogue.
02:53.56Kilroo:D
02:54.09theoddone33\\DruidOwlbear\\DruidOwlbear
02:54.23KilrooWell, it still SOUNDS interesting, whether I'll ever care about being able to use it or not.
02:54.24theoddone33\\DruidOwlbearTauren\\DruidOwlbearTauren
02:54.29KilrooGood night, peopleses.
02:55.07ckknightDruidOwlbear works.
02:55.09Thraeckknight: Wait a sec. You said UNIT_AURA isn't fired when Druids shapeshift?
02:55.13hyperChipmunkCharacter/DruidOwlBear DruidCat
02:55.16ckknightThrae: not sure.
02:55.20theoddone33SeaLion\\SeaLion
02:55.33ckknight:SetModel("Creature\\DruidOwlbear\\DruidOwlbear.mdx") works for me
02:55.34nymbiait wont be for a targeted enemy druid
02:55.44nymbiaunless they've got detect magic on 'em
02:55.47ThraeAh, nymbia is right
02:56.01ckknightSeaLion also works.
02:56.43hyperChipmunkcat has a Druidcat and Druidcattauren
02:56.47hyperChipmunkDruidbear
02:56.59hyperChipmunkmpq still loading
02:57.11hyperChipmunkthey're trickling in =)
02:57.14Amadeoanyone see that WoW General post this morning about "vegans in WoW"?
02:57.25ThraeTauren & NE Bear & Cat forms are different. Everything else should be the same.
02:57.27hyperChipmunker, yea, creature/ not character/, my bad
02:57.31hyperChipmunkthey're all under Creature
02:57.41hyperChipmunkread it wrong
02:58.25ThraeDruids have waited a looooooong time for their much-needed model updates to make the factions different...and now Shamans need them too
02:58.53ThraeAlas, we are still all cheetahs/weird spotted tigers
02:59.08hyperChipmunkStormcrowdruid
02:59.15unduAmadeo: Yes, why?
02:59.20ThraeSomeone made some excellent designs for a Stag Travel Form for Night Elves
03:00.54ThraeThen again, all of WoW's models look like they used a lot of WC3 as a base...maybe they don't have a lot of model designers.
03:01.55unduWell, depends what you mean.
03:02.09ckknightwhat do people call the sea cow form?
03:02.33Thraeckknight: The buff is called "Aquatic Form".
03:02.42hyperChipmunkwalrus?
03:02.44unduI call it sealform!
03:02.53Zicon"Oh my god I'm ugly" form
03:02.55ckknightgoing with "Aquatic"
03:03.03nymbiayeah
03:03.12ckknighthyperChipmunk: Stormcrowdruid is spelled like that, capitalization and all?
03:03.13hyperChipmunkcan't find the tauren flight form
03:03.23ThraehyperChipmunk: I think they're the same.
03:03.35hyperChipmunkexactly as i wrote it, yes
03:03.36ckknightwhat's the travel form called?
03:03.39hyperChipmunkoh
03:03.44Thraeckknight: Travel Form
03:03.48hyperChipmunkthe model is all-lowercase
03:03.59Thraeckknight: Seriously, and it has a picture of a hoof
03:04.03hyperChipmunkCreature/Stormcrowdruid/stormcrowdruid.m2
03:04.13ThraeEven though we're a cat =/
03:04.32ckknightThrae: I mean the model
03:04.37ckknightwhat's the model for travel form?
03:04.55hyperChipmunki know the elf one has elf ears
03:04.55hyperChipmunki'm sure the tauren one has horns
03:04.57hyperChipmunktiger
03:05.04hyperChipmunkTiger/tiger.m2
03:05.26ThraeIt's the rare spotted tiger!
03:05.56ckknightokay, I have Bear, Cat, Travel, Flight, Moonkin, and Aquatic
03:05.59ckknightam I missing anything?
03:06.03theoddone33tree :P
03:06.07ckknightah, right
03:06.39ThraeIs Tree Form a big-ass Treant model? I rarely see it.
03:06.41ckknighthyperChipmunk: any idea on treeform?
03:07.10hyperChipmunkEnt/ent.m2
03:07.15kenlyricit's not big-ass
03:07.20kenlyricit's just normal treant model
03:08.31Thraekenlyric: I meant its made a bigger size then the Treants summoned by Balance Druids ;)
03:09.03ckknightsize doesn't matter
03:11.27Amadeo<Gnomes> Smaller is better!
03:15.01CIA-2303ckknight * r34693 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - use a complicated system for figuring out the druid form by setting a portrait and comparing the model. For bear/cat, it still checks the power type, though.
03:15.09ckknightcan someone please test that?
03:16.09hyperChipmunkmy druid friend already logged off =P
03:17.33ckknightlame
03:17.58art3mishttp://texyt.com/3Ms+Sticky+Bear+is+VERY+Pleased+to+See+You
03:18.15Amadeoanyone ever try a weird Warlock spec like this?
03:18.17Amadeohttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rVRfzRZbxczIiz0xs
03:18.32ckknightthat is awesome, art3mis
03:18.38art3misaint it though?
03:20.48nymbiarofl
03:23.09ckknightokay, already has a bug.
03:23.19hyperChipmunkheh heh Creature/Crackelf/crackelfmale.m2
03:23.23ckknightlol.
03:25.47Nimbleckknight, still want somebody to teset it?
03:25.52NeoTronit'd be really nice if ACP actually was able to disable addons
03:26.01ckknightNimble: yea
03:26.17Nimbleckknight, it's on files.wowace not this svn thing right?
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03:28.27NeoTronIs theer something that magiucally decides to load addons I've specifically disabled (Marked "disabled" in the character specific AddOns.txt file ) in Ace?
03:28.42NeoTronSeems I can't, for example, disable simpleCombatLog without actually removing it entirely
03:29.09NeoTronor deadly boss mobs for that matter
03:29.29CIA-2303ckknight * r34694 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added another check to the druidform dealy
03:30.13NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: check that AddOns.txt file for a line that just has ":enabled" or similr, without an associated addon. that can bork that up sometimes.
03:30.50theoddone33NeoTron: oh no, WoW has you in its clutches too
03:31.16NeoTronI'd be damned, there is such a line
03:31.20NeoTronwhere does that come from?
03:31.23NeoTrontheoddone33: hehe. indeed
03:31.32theoddone33I guess I knew that actually
03:31.46NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: I have no idea, but removing should fix your problem
03:31.47ckknightNimble: um, svn thing?
03:32.17Nimbleckknight, it works perfect for moonkin and travel
03:32.21Nimbleckknight, I couldn't check tree
03:32.22Arrowmasterhmm i think MobMidigation might be bugged, i eviserated something and it said it has -20000 armor
03:32.35ckknightNimble: flight?
03:32.35hyperChipmunkmaybe it's a mage
03:32.41hyperChipmunkhohoho
03:32.50Nimbleckknight, I'll check now, have to go to outlands T_T
03:39.06Nimbleckknight, flight form works
03:39.11ckknighthooray
03:39.16ckknightjump in a lake
03:39.21ckknightturn into seacow
03:39.29ckknight:-P
03:39.33Nimblelol
03:39.41NimbleI can't right now, my friend just logged =P
03:39.43sedatedChipmunkNimble: horde?
03:39.49NimblesedatedChipmunk, No I'm alliance
03:39.54sedatedChipmunkdarn
03:40.05Kirkburnzomg, level 33, and 12% away from exalted with SW! :D
03:40.10Nimblebtw I like this addition now a lot
03:40.18Nimbleknowing when my druid partner is in travel form will help
03:40.21sedatedChipmunki'm still wary about horde having same model
03:40.31Nimblethey don't
03:40.42sedatedChipmunki didn't think they did, but i can't find it
03:40.51sedatedChipmunki expect it has horns
03:41.01ckknightwell, get your druid friend to test :-P
03:41.05KirkburnHorny form!
03:41.08sedatedChipmunkhe's ally too
03:41.19NimbleActually if I think about it, i've never seen a horde druid in flight form
03:41.20Kirkburn+10 Humping
03:41.42sedatedChipmunkand yea, knowing what form my druid partner is in is really helpful; it's the one thing i really miss having portraits for
03:41.58chutwigeh, they have their little buff icon
03:42.04Nimblelol T_T
03:42.05sedatedChipmunkhar
03:42.06Nimblebuffs
03:42.18NimbleI have those buff things turned off
03:42.21sedatedChipmunkthey all look the same at 16x16
03:42.56Nimble*sigh* I hate how much my 2v2 rating fluctuates
03:42.56NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: well that fixed it, thanks
03:45.08NimblesedatedChipmunk, I found a horde druid in flight
03:45.47sedatedChipmunkproblem is you gotta get up close to be sure
03:45.50ckknightI wish I could figure out their 2D form rather than their 3D form
03:45.54sedatedChipmunkdid it have horns?
03:46.01sedatedChipmunkheh
03:46.15sedatedChipmunk"the bible is like a person in that if you torture it enough, you can get it to say just about anything you want"
03:46.40Nimblehaha
03:46.40Nimblehahahaha
03:46.51Nimbleand no I don't think it had horns but I couldn't be sure
03:46.54Nimbleif it did they were very small
03:47.03Nimbleit looked the same to me
03:47.23sedatedChipmunkelf druid models have elf ears, taurens have bull horns
03:47.36sedatedChipmunkso if you noticed ears, then it's teh same
03:47.41ckknightbut SetPortraitTexture is funky
03:47.48NimblesedatedChipmunk, yes I noticed ears
03:47.53ckknightit sets the texture, but then if you do :GetTexture(), it returns "Portrait1"
03:47.55sedatedChipmunkthen they're the same
03:48.01NimblesedatedChipmunk, unless they were horns that looked like ears T_T
03:48.05Nimbleit was moving!
03:48.05sedatedChipmunkweaksauce
03:48.08Nimblelol
03:48.19sedatedChipmunkno, they're usually quite noticeable
03:48.31sedatedChipmunkcompare two bardurids
03:48.34NimbleI'm looking for another now =P
03:48.54Nimblehey wait a minute
03:49.00NimbleI can just select it and see if it says flight
03:49.01Nimbledurr
03:49.09sedatedChipmunkhaha
03:49.10Nimbleand it does woo =D
03:49.16sedatedChipmunkwell there ya go
03:49.43sedatedChipmunkeither that, or ckknight is an amazing supergenius and knew instinctively what the model name would be
03:49.58sedatedChipmunkand while he is pretty smrt, i don't think so
03:50.11CIA-2303roartindon * r34695 10Aloft/ (7 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
03:50.11CIA-23Aloft
03:50.11CIA-23- TagCompiler now takes a parmeterTypes array to check and coerce parameters given into compileStrings or methods
03:50.11CIA-23- Added ParseComplement phase between ParseChain and ParsePrimary to handle "~" operator
03:50.11CIA-23- Made a few more tag functions compileStrings
03:50.12CIA-23- TagCompiler will now spit out some information to help locate the position of tag errors
03:50.17CIA-23- TagCompiler will report if insufficient parameters are provided, or if they're provided when none are used
03:50.27Funkeh`wow
03:50.31Funkeh`you know how to commit!
03:51.11Nimblegod Aloft is Sexy!
03:51.25Nimbleit makes my entire WoW experience better
03:51.58chutwigit's certainly a lot less intrusive than the defaults
03:52.17Funkeh`never tried it yet
03:52.19Funkeh`not gonna
03:52.27Funkeh`because i know im gonna get hooked to it if i do
03:52.29Nimbleyou can turn off critter nameplates
03:52.31Nimblethat's the best aprt
03:52.33Nimblepart*
03:52.43Arrowmastercan you turn off pet and totem nameplates?
03:52.55Nimblepet yes
03:52.56Nimbleno totems
03:53.20sedatedChipmunksomething to note about the moonkin form
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03:53.46Arrowmasterthat doesnt make sense considering totems are pets
03:53.47sedatedChipmunkit's Creature/Druidowlbear/druidowlbear.m2 and Creature/Druidowlbear/druidowlbeartauren.m2
03:53.53Nimbleoh I didn't know totems were pets
03:53.59NimbleI have pets turned on so I don't know
03:54.17Nimbleall I know is there is an option to disable pets
03:54.20sedatedChipmunkmost of the others are, e.g. Creature/Druidcat/Druidcat.m2 and Creature/Druidcattauren/druidcattauren.m2
03:54.26Arrowmasterwhat about friendly player vs npc?
03:54.39Nimbleyou can turn off npc's yeah
03:54.42sedatedChipmunkckknight: dunno if you got that squared right
03:57.15sedatedChipmunklooks like tigers, stormcrow, sealion, and tree share models; bears and moonkin share directories; and cats have separate directories
03:57.44sedatedChipmunkw.r.t. faction-specific differences
03:58.11sedatedChipmunkdid i miss any?
03:58.39sedatedChipmunkdon't think so; goin' to bed
03:58.48sedatedChipmunk'night dirtbags
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04:03.09RoartindonArrowmaster: Ever since 2.0, friendly totems haven't shown up as nameplates
04:03.56RoartindonAt least, not for when I'm in group/raid with shaman, or out-of-group-shaman...
04:04.12RoartindonNever been a shaman myself, so I haven't tried it from that perspective
04:04.32NightHawkTheSaneno, i dont believe shaman totems have nameplates, even to the shaman
04:04.42RoartindonI know hostile totems show up
04:04.49RoartindonI see them when fighting first boss in heroic SP
04:05.00NightHawkTheSaneer, yeah, should have said "friendly"
04:05.49Arrowmasteryeah i know the option to hide pet nameplates went away but thats when we got friendly nameplates and pets started showing up with friendly nameplates
04:06.20Arrowmasterbut your sure friendly totems dont show up with friendly name plates enabled?
04:06.51RoartindonArrowmaster: Absolutely sure
04:06.58RoartindonI regularly instance with a shaman who is a good friend
04:07.02Arrowmastercool
04:07.19RoartindonAnd I haven't seen his totem nameplates since 2.0
04:07.19Arrowmasteri always found them annoying with the old nameplates
04:08.04Arrowmasterdoes aloft have in and out of combat nameplate options?
04:08.07RoartindonYou can always just try the addon, and ditch it if it doesn't suit you :)
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04:08.47RoartindonNope, nothing combat specific.. well, apart from combo points, combat text display
04:13.08ckknightsedatedChipmunk: well, what it does right now is model:find("owlbear")
04:13.16ckknightwhich catches both Tauren and NE
04:15.28Fisker-Is there anyway to export e-mails with thunderbird?
04:15.55chutwigexport to what?
04:16.14Fisker-whatever
04:16.14chutwigi think they're in MBOX format so you can just copy the stores
04:16.18Fisker-I just wanna keep my email
04:17.45Fisker-any idea where they're kept?
04:20.04chutwigapplication data\thunderbird\profiles
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04:22.12Fisker-wtf
04:22.17Fisker-my junk file is 80MB
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04:29.15CIA-2303roartindon * r34696 10Aloft/Extras/AloftFu.lua: Aloft: AloftFu - opening waterfall by shift-clicking on the icon will now hide the tooltip
04:35.49Neeblerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgaf23a5QE0
04:37.00Killmoreomg
04:37.25Phorbiethats...thats....
04:37.31Phorbiewow
04:41.22KirkburnMesmerizing
04:41.22Fisker-:D
04:41.44Fisker-lolwut
04:42.44Fisker-But why isn't it 6-7 minutes like the original? :P
04:42.55shieldbonce you click you can't unclick
04:43.00shieldb>.>
04:43.30Neeblerthe best part is when he takes his shirt off and shows his nipple stickers
04:43.38Fisker-yeah
04:43.45NightHawkTheSanei am so glad I didn't watch that far
04:43.56Fisker-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TG3qaLrpNA&NR=1
04:44.18Funkeh`you can use CheckInteractDistance to check a max of 30 yards
04:44.22Funkeh`any way to check further?
04:44.30Roartindonspells/item use checks
04:44.33Fisker-yeah if you got a spell at 40 yards range
04:44.34Fisker-^^
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04:44.51Funkeh`yeah was thinking something that isn't class restricted :p
04:45.05Fisker-nah that would be h4x
04:45.10Funkeh`:(
04:45.24Fisker-Where you could exactly pinpoint where enemies were
04:45.31Funkeh`hehe
04:46.24Fisker-btw were you informed of my chronicle of the stupid
04:46.34Fisker-About the guy who tried to buy a SLI motherboard for 2xATi cards
04:48.00Funkeh`yeah
04:48.03Funkeh`^^
04:48.19Fisker-He's buying a new computer
04:48.22Fisker-i fucking lol'd
04:48.43Funkeh`>>
04:48.53Fisker-He's buying a Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 4GB DDR2 a Crossfire motherboard and 2xATi X1950 Pro
04:51.11hasteI wish I had the money for something like that :<
04:51.13Funkeh`you sure he isn't buying 2xnVidia?
04:51.28Fisker-yeah
04:51.33Funkeh`:p
04:51.33Kirkburnlol
04:51.41Fisker-I already told him to drop it and just get a single card
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04:51.51Fisker-In the start he just wanted the 2xATi x1600
04:52.03hastehe wants awesome score in 3dmark!
04:52.06hasteand e-peen
04:52.07Fisker-when i told him to just get a single card as it wouldn't do it anyways he wanted the 2 x1950
04:52.12Fisker-He's not gonna get it
04:52.16Funkeh`thats a seriously shit hot pc :x
04:52.25hasteI wouldn't have bought ATi tho'
04:52.28KirkburnSeriously expensive too ;)
04:52.28hastedue to the drivers :<
04:52.34Funkeh`whats that likr $4k ?
04:53.33Fisker-i dunno :o
04:53.41Fisker-I don't keep tabs on crap
04:53.41Fisker-;D
04:54.06KirkburnI like to not study crap too!
04:54.35KirkburnCrap just isn't cool :(
04:54.54hasteI wish I had his amount of cash...
04:55.06hasteso I could buy some bread, beacuse mine is totally dry now :<
04:55.08Fisker-well he's probably gonna return the previous parts
04:55.10Fisker-but still
04:55.24Fisker-Sometimes i wish we didn't have lawmandated return policies
04:55.50Fisker-Pretty weird law anyways
04:56.12hastewe have 14 days return right in norway
04:56.18hasteon stuff ordered on the net at least
04:56.20Fisker-If you can't physically see what you're buying then you have 2 weeks to return it if you don't like it
04:56.34_art3mistoo bad yer mom didnt have that potion ;P
04:56.42Fisker-But you're not allowed to examine it for faults or stuff like that in a store unless the manager allows it
04:57.05art3misoption
04:57.20Fisker-The same with postal services
04:57.46Fisker-You can pay for the stuff you buy right away or get a bill with the package
04:57.54Fisker-But you cannot look at the package before you paid the bill
04:58.26Fisker-So basically i could send a person a package filled with shit and he wouldn't know until he paid me 100$ for it :P
04:59.22Fisker-Oh well i must be ready!
04:59.28Fisker-must backup all my files and such
05:00.04Fisker-that's what i do for a living
05:00.11Fisker-shit in cardboxes and sell it on ebay
05:00.17Fisker-is the image better now?
05:00.30KirkburnHeh, sell "Surprise" packages
05:00.42KirkburnA little part of me in every box
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05:32.27Kaeltenhows it goin guys
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05:43.26ckknightand Kaelten's gone already
05:46.36Funkeh`busy guy i suppose
05:46.41Funkeh`moff, later
05:47.35FISKER_QAnyone know a site where you can sign up to a lot of newsletters at once_
05:47.36FISKER_Q?
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05:48.40Aenslaedvoid reaver down! trash harder than the boss >.<
05:48.46Aenslaedthis is a sad trend in tbc
05:50.46FISKER_Qhmm
05:50.48FISKER_Qinterresting fact
05:51.20FISKER_QI got 3 harddrives
05:51.25FISKER_Q1 in raid and the other i dunno
05:51.32FISKER_QBut only 1 harddrive in my system :o
05:52.59mjcif you have 3 identically sized drives you should be using raid5
05:53.21mjcthat way you get 75% of the space, 75% of the speed, and you can have one drive fail and not lose data
05:53.42FISKER_Qlol
05:53.45FISKER_Qit's my raid
05:53.56FISKER_Qwhy the hell do i have 320GB i don't use? :P
05:54.00FISKER_Qi'm a n00b
05:54.18FISKER_QThen i can do dual boot as well
05:54.34FISKER_Qgonna get me sum vista
05:54.41FISKER_Qnice
05:54.47FISKER_QI think the koreans just got here with my ram
05:54.50mjcvista's a waste of time
05:55.33FISKER_Qi'm hurt :(
05:56.00ckknightyea, I'm gonna agree that Vista is a waste of time currently
05:56.12ckknightI mean, if your computer came with it, that's fine, imo
05:56.32ckknightbut I see no real reason to install it now on your own
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05:56.55FISKER_Qwah
05:56.59FISKER_Qthat wasn't the koreans
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06:02.29todd`fizzle should show item quality borders for tabards
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06:30.16FISKER_QElkano you're german
06:32.05ckknightterr'r!
06:32.09CIA-2303ruinna * r34698 10FuBar_BongosFu/ (BongosFu.lua README.txt): FuBar_BongosFu: fixed bug from last commit
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06:48.02ElkanoFISKER_Q: o/
06:48.07FISKER_Q\o/
06:48.21FISKER_Q.o.
06:48.26FISKER_Q\o/
06:48.26FISKER_Q.o.
06:48.28FISKER_Qand so on
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06:55.42ckknightcan anyone reproduce this: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5951.0
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06:58.15Roartindonckknight: I wouldn't worry about fred
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06:58.22ckknight?
06:58.23nymbialol seriously
06:58.25RoartindonHe complains about things that no one else can reproduce
06:58.46nymbiahe posts dongle errors on the ace boards
06:58.49nymbiai mean, come on.
06:59.11RoartindonSome of the posts I've read of his indicate he's got just enough knowledge of addons to hurt himself
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06:59.20nymbiaheh
06:59.56RoartindonOh, separate question.. what makes a member a senior member on the forums?
07:00.03ckknightdongle is kind of a reactionary movement...
07:00.16ckknightRoartindon: lots o' code
07:00.27nymbiajust a post count number, i think?
07:00.28ckknightwhy, you want senior membership?
07:00.32Roartindonno
07:00.38RoartindonI dno't care about membership status
07:00.39ckknightwait, what's a senior member do?
07:00.43RoartindonJust curious as to what makes one.
07:00.48RoartindonSince fred was listed as a Sr member
07:00.54nymbiai am one but i dont think i'm special
07:00.57nymbiaso yeah
07:01.01ckknightah, post count.
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07:03.43ZealotOnAStickof course you're special, nymbia.
07:04.20nymbia;)
07:04.24ZealotOnAStickin what manner . . . that's open for interpretation.  ;)
07:04.30nymbiaindeed
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07:05.48ZealotOnAStickAnyone know a really good warlock on a US server looking for a prime-time central raid schedule open to transferring for it?
07:06.13ZealotOnAStickHorde, I suppose I should specify.
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07:12.15ckknightso what's the role of locks endgame?
07:12.15ckknightperhaps I'm missing a piece of the puzzle
07:12.31FISKER_QHealthstones, Damage and CC
07:12.40ckknightokay
07:12.51ckknightI figured their primary task was ranged DPS
07:12.54FISKER_QEspecially in an instance like Magtheridon's Lair where you basically need atleast 3 warlocks to just stand a chance
07:12.55NightHawkTheSanesoulstones and curses, as well
07:13.01FISKER_Qyeah
07:13.04Roartindonlocks roles are: come along, others get epics
07:13.33ckknighthey, why are rogues a lot like nubs?
07:13.42ckknightthey both pick locks
07:13.46ckknightba-dum ching
07:14.07Silviu-Roartindon don`t know, but when i always look at Damage .. i`m first :)
07:14.20Silviu-As a lock :)
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07:14.40RoartindonSilviu-: I didn't convey my statement properly.. what I meant was.. we bring locks because they're so strong damage.
07:14.48RoartindonAnd strong for buffs/raiding
07:14.54RoartindonI'm a mage, I bring a lock to get my epics :)
07:15.08Silviu-^^
07:15.15RoartindonKilling aran without a lock took us a ton of attempts
07:15.15FtH|Daemonano, you bring the lock for CoE ;)
07:15.20Silviu-U mages all time cry for CoE :(
07:15.20RoartindonWith one lock, he became trivial
07:15.30FISKER_QHEHE ckknight
07:15.31Roartindonheh, you'd be surprised; we rarely cry for coe
07:15.38Silviu-Yes ?
07:15.40Silviu-Invite !
07:15.41Silviu-:P
07:16.09RoartindonIn 25 mans, our locks all organise themselves, and sort out curses
07:16.19RoartindonIn 5/10 mans, generalls CoS is better with shadow priests if there's just one
07:16.20Silviu-Yes us too
07:16.32Silviu-I mean in 25 man`s too
07:16.36RoartindonOr maybe curse of weakness if there's a hard hitting boss... I haven't seen a mage ask for CoE since... hmm.. BWL
07:16.40Silviu-In rest i just don`t care and make CoA
07:17.05FISKER_QI remember my fappage when i was grouped with 2 shadow priests in Gruul's Lair
07:17.10Silviu-And i`m lucky we are 3, so i do CoA because i have the most spelldmg from all 3
07:17.19FISKER_QI think i did like 800k healing on a whole run
07:17.21Roartindonhow much spelldamage are you up to now?
07:17.33Roartindontwo of our locks are past 1250 damage now
07:17.35Diaohmm
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07:17.43DiaoMy guild usually brings locks to eat epics
07:17.52Diaowe always get lock loot D:
07:17.55Silviu-Not much :( 1080 or so i think but no shadowweave set
07:18.15[Ammo]morning
07:18.24Silviu-Morning
07:18.34RoartindonI'm pretty strong on the dps meters tho
07:18.41Roartindonoften on the SSC boglords, I break 1k dps sustained
07:19.56Silviu-Yesterday on Magtheridon http://j39f3fs.de/wws/wws-20070506-1802/
07:20.24Silviu-And, i still have another job there, banish, fear so in phase 1 i can`t do dmg :)
07:22.30[Ammo]orfcourse you can
07:22.33[Ammo]dots :p
07:22.38[Ammo]slap em on, forget about em
07:22.46[Ammo]you have 15 seconds during fear to slap on dots
07:23.01Silviu-^^
07:23.07Silviu-Usually i don`t do
07:23.20Silviu-I also must do CoT on adds :(
07:23.26Silviu-And with this 30 sec cd it sux :P
07:24.16Roartindonhow do you guys pull hydross btw?
07:24.22RoartindonI think we have a 'unique' way of doing it
07:24.42[Ammo]we don't pull hydross
07:24.49[Ammo]because we haven't been in SSC yet
07:24.50Roartindonwell, engage him I mean
07:25.08[Ammo]I think we have 25+ attuned
07:25.16[Ammo]so we could have a peek
07:25.18[Ammo]just haven't :)
07:25.21Roartindonthe whole filtering through 10 man content sucks :/
07:25.50Silviu-We can`t kill Hydross :/
07:26.01Silviu-We pull him with feral dudu in cat :)
07:26.06Tovort^^ my PC at home died, I'm stuck :-(
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07:26.57Roartindonsilviu-: We put a druid in cat up there with a warrior's intervene on him, he pops out of stealth an into bear, then the warrior takes over :)
07:27.50TovortRoartindon: sounds like I should remember that tactic, sounds fun
07:28.02Silviu-Roartindon the same as us :)
07:34.58Aenslaedeh?
07:35.08Aenslaedwhats all this fancy strat to pulling hydross?
07:35.36RoartindonI guess it's not that fancy
07:35.41Aenslaedjust stick like 2 rogues, a hunter and a pally to pick off the incoming water elementals and time it so you engage the boss just before one spawns.
07:36.13Roartindonit's not the easy spawns, it's the fact that he would cross the line half the time if we just used warrior intervene
07:36.17Roartindonand spawn 4 poison elementals
07:36.24Aenslaedwhats wrong with starting in nature?
07:36.37Roartindonyou lose 1 minute of add-free dps
07:37.03Aenslaedmeh, we get the adds down before the 3rd mark anyways
07:37.32Roartindonyour dps is far stronger than ours then :)
07:39.01Aenslaedhope the patch happens soon. We aren't attempting leotheras till after patch, so we started on TK :/
07:39.41RoartindonIt's been on PTR for ... 4 weeks is it?
07:39.52Aenslaedstill alot of changes happening
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07:39.54Roartindonyeah
07:40.01Aenslaedthough they've been rolling back changes. It might be ready soon
07:40.14RoartindonI'm waiting for them to reitemize KZ and SSC
07:40.29RoartindonWhich I heard was suppsoed to be happening before the end of this week
07:40.32Roartindonbut not sure if that's accurate
07:40.33Aenslaedjust want to kill leo and start on vashj
07:40.52RoartindonWhat's The Eye like? I haven't even stepped insdie
07:41.04Aenslaedarcatraz/mechanar all over again
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07:41.26Elkano<3 LFGroup ^^
07:41.35Aenslaedfirst couple pulls are blood elf packs. Then you get those bloodhawks
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07:41.57Aenslaedtook us one wipe to figure out the trick to the big bloodhawks
07:42.24Aenslaedwhich is taunt it mid dive so it doesn't oneshot a clothie
07:42.46RoartindonI'll have to remember that for if/when we go
07:42.56Aenslaedbut then you are at al'ar, which we skipped. Went left to Void Reaver.
07:43.11Roartindonwhat's void reaver's difficulty level like?
07:43.15Aenslaedand wow the trash there is gay.  Think 25 man version of the robots from mechanar.
07:43.19Aenslaeda joke. He's so easy
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07:43.43Aenslaedwe wiped 4 times to the trash, then killed the boss in 3 attempts, only 5 people in the raid did any research beforehand
07:43.52sylvanaaryou seen the new sw stats, the uniLog
07:44.34Aenslaedfirst attempt we did cause nobody was listening to the theory craft, second attempt was a no pot run. Third run we killed it.
07:45.47Aenslaedif you can do gruul, you can do void reaver easily
07:45.53Roartindonhmm. .interesting
07:45.58Aenslaedthe trash is what prevents any random chob guild from doing it
07:46.12Roartindonheh, we might be prevented then :)
07:46.45AenslaedIts absurdly easy with bigwigs running too
07:46.55Roartindonrun out timers?
07:47.08Aenslaedno, more for the automatic raid icons
07:47.44Aenslaedvoid reaver shoots a giant electrical ball at people through the fight once every 10 seconds or so. Bigwigs puts a skull on the person its targetted at.  Just run away from the person who has the skull
07:47.52bindiAenslaed, i don't think the trash is insanely hard either
07:47.53Roartindonah
07:47.58Aenslaedbam, thast the entire fight
07:48.07Aenslaedbindi: we had trouble with the two packs before the boss. The 5 pack
07:48.08Aenslaeds
07:48.16bindimyeh
07:48.29bindibut once you know the overcharge is spell reflectable its kinda a gg :p
07:48.37Aenslaedeh, it is?
07:48.40bindihaha yes
07:48.42Aenslaedjesus christ.
07:48.44bindiits funny
07:48.56Aenslaedwow, that would make it easy
07:48.59bindiyup
07:49.19bindithey might fix that tho cause it doesn't really seem intended
07:49.19Aenslaedfirst time, they had me tank it as bear. gg overcharge hitting me for 16k!
07:49.26bindiyeh same
07:49.28Roartindonouch :)
07:49.29bindiwe found out yesterday
07:49.48bindithen i had to tank a lil saw blade dude
07:50.09ElkanoFISKER_Q, you know as well as I do that I cannot be destroyed!
07:51.14Aenslaedbindi: the saw dudes are no problem. Its just annoying.  But if you could shield reflect, those packs are absurdly easy
07:51.23bindiyeh indeed
07:51.34bindiwell, still tell the healers to top the tanks tho on overcharge
07:51.42Aenslaedof course
07:51.50bindicause you don't wanna slack on it and miss the overcharge reflect :p
07:51.54Aenslaedwe managed it without it, with it, it'll be even easier ;p
07:52.14bindihehe when we came to the first overcharge dude he was on like 90% just from reflecting or so :p
07:52.29bindior might be more like 94-92 tho
07:52.35Aenslaedits 90% of your max hp right?
07:53.34bindihmm
07:53.38bindinever checked it tbh
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07:53.56bindiCharges a massive burst of energy that deals 14250 to 15750 Arcane damage.
07:53.57bindinope
07:57.30evlthere's a new swstats?
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08:08.09CIA-23WhoLib:
08:08.09CIA-23- renamed :SetDebug() to :SetWhoLibDebug()
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08:09.18CIA-2303nymbia * r34704 10Tattle/Tattle.lua:
08:09.18CIA-23Tattle:
08:09.18CIA-23- Don't mixin AceDebug-2.0 (no idea where that one came from).
08:09.18CIA-23- Throw a reference to the options table on the object so I can poke at it from other files.
08:09.47CIA-2303ckknight * r34705 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added tag IsMaxLevel, which will return "True" if the unit is greater than or equal to MAX_PLAYER_LEVEL.
08:11.03evlckknight: The "smart" option for HealthText displays the percentage as a float
08:11.16ckknightI know.
08:11.20ckknightI made the change
08:11.30evlfor bosses etc I reckon?
08:12.53ckknightnah, basically I added the :Round modifier
08:13.06evlaha, I'll make the change in my own
08:13.23ckknightactually, lemme make a change.
08:13.50ckknightjust gonna do SmartHP = "SureHP:PercentHP:Percent"
08:13.54evlckknight: I did some more research into the phantom frames, and I seem to get them for all "subframes" such as aura icons, cast bar icon, cast bar, combo points among others, but it happens randomly
08:13.54ckknightcause that's what it does now
08:14.27evlI could sit in Shattrah targeting and un-targeting myself and I'd get a castbarBg say every 4th time or so
08:14.38evlcould it be a frame pool issue if you use such a thing+
08:15.02nymbiaevl: which layout do you use
08:15.11evlABF + my own
08:15.16CIA-2303ckknight * r34706 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - made SmartHP an alias for SureHP:PercentHP:Percent
08:15.23ckknightthere, evl
08:15.23evlbut ironically enough the functions I have overrideen in my own layout are not the ones affected
08:15.27evlthanks!
08:15.37ckknightnow feel free to just do SureHP:PercentHP:Round:Percent
08:15.45ckknightto not have it be a float dealy
08:16.31kergothmy blizzard downloader for the ptr client is stalled at... 100%
08:16.33kergothwtf
08:16.39kergothwait, no, 99%
08:16.43kergothbut it says 210mb/210mb
08:16.47ckknightnew patch?
08:16.50ckknightor you just installing now?
08:16.54kergothno, just installing now
08:17.03kergothwanted to branch my addon set and remove all the crap thats in default now
08:17.05kergothheh
08:17.10kergothstupid torrents
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08:23.10evlckknight: Would it be possible to have a "none" options for combo points texture display, as you said yesterday just calling comboPoints:Hide() won't work since it's shown in UpdateComboPoints
08:23.24ckknightyou do it
08:24.09evlat work now, I'll look into it when I get home
08:24.26evlor would it be better with three options; both, text only and texture only
08:27.25kergothdoes anyone else just get a blank page when you go to the ptr character copy page?
08:27.33kergothi've tried with IE and firefox both
08:28.40nymbiakergoth: working for me
08:29.41kergothhmm
08:32.23nymbiakergoth: http://test.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr/character-copy.html ?
08:33.07evlckknight: I couldn't find passValue in the DewDrop docs, what does it do exactly?
08:33.23ckknightAceOptions data table
08:34.19evlaha, thanks
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08:39.19FISKER_Qi'm gonna kill Boubouille
08:39.24FISKER_Qyou're gonna die :(
08:40.48kergothnymbia: its the account management page.  the test realm character copy link in the upper right list of links is hosed, as is the text ptr character copy link in th e middle of the screen, but the link toward the bottom with the icon works
08:40.56kergothinconsistency ftl
08:41.02kergoththose should all point to the same place
08:43.02nymbiayeah
08:44.35evlckknight: PitBull isn't localized yet so I don't have to worry about that?
08:45.00ckknightwrap everything in L[] anyway
08:45.46koaschten_kergoth generally i prefer just dumping the .torrent from the blizz loader with WowTorrentEx and use utorrent :X
08:45.53kergothyea, that works much better
08:46.05sylvanaarwhy are u not mixing in acedebug?
08:46.29koaschten_cause i like my ptr shaken?
08:47.16Boubouille[10:39:13] <FISKER_Q> i'm gonna kill Boubouille
08:47.16Boubouille[10:39:17] <FISKER_Q> you're gonna die :(
08:47.17Boubouilleo rly ?
08:47.22BoubouilleMay I ask why ? :(
08:47.30kergoth~emulate chris
08:47.32purl(holding a rubber condom) Dad, they even have games you can play in the bathroom!  Look, I won a balloon!
08:47.37kergothhehe
08:48.16Daemonahrm whats current ptr version? 6624? i am through update 4 now and still ...
08:48.16Diaochris from family guy?
08:48.21kergothDiao: yep
08:48.23kergothhttp://madnesslabs.com/wow/classnotes.html is nifty
08:48.26kergoth~emulate chris
08:48.28purlWhen I stick this army guy with the sharp bayonette up my nose, it tickles my brain. Hah hah hah ... ow. Oh, now I don't know math.
08:49.05sylvanaar6624
08:52.00FISKER_QBoubouille because my postal services failed to deliver
08:52.26kergoth~emulate chris
08:52.28purlIt'll be a good chance to get away from the evil monkey that lives in my closet."
08:52.44BoubouilleI've got bad news for you FISKER_Q
08:52.45BoubouilleI don't care :(
08:53.12kergothi like that one line.. "If I had a hole in my throat, I'd put pennies in it!"
08:54.16FISKER_Qaww Boubouille
08:54.19FISKER_Qthat's why you're gonna die
08:54.19kergothjesus, are there enough patches to apply incrementally on the ptr or what
08:54.26FISKER_QPretty fail though
08:54.40FISKER_QThey didn't deliver last week because they had some strike
08:54.48Boubouillebtw
08:54.52FISKER_Qand now they don't deliever today because they sent it off to some other place
08:54.54Boubouillevashj video up
08:55.06FISKER_QDo not want!
08:55.20FISKER_QWhat's the "HP bug"?
08:55.52Boubouillewell basically, during Nihilum's kill, Vashj lost 10% hp without reason
08:56.14evlI thought that was Kungen's 500k devastate?
08:56.24Boubouille:/
08:56.35FISKER_QKungen is mad dps
08:57.07evlI was curious looking at Method people's gear
08:57.19evlA lot of wierd gear, guess skill > gear :D
08:57.24FISKER_Qtigole probably came and accidently pushed a couple of buttons
08:59.19FISKER_QTigole will probably move to EU sometime soon
08:59.31FISKER_Qbased on the massive failure from US :P
08:59.48FISKER_Qonly DnT and Risen in the "world best" category on bosskillers
09:01.09Boubouilleanyway, got something new coming today !
09:02.31FISKER_QMy ram?
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09:03.27BoubouilleDon't think so. :(
09:03.44FISKER_Qdo not want then :(
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09:04.11FISKER_QPunkie`!
09:08.12CIA-2303jerry * r34708 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua:
09:08.12CIA-23ItemBonusLib:
09:08.12CIA-23_ Added a ClearCache() API call.
09:08.12CIA-23_ Added support for WEAPON_MIN/MAX/SPEED bonuses (discarded when adding bonuses)
09:09.13CIA-2303evl * r34709 10PitBull/ (ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua Layouts/ABF.lua):
09:09.13CIA-23PitBull
09:09.13CIA-23- Added display option to ComboPoints which allows you to choose between both, texture only and text only.
09:09.13CIA-23- Removed hide text option from ABF since it's been rendered obsolete by above change.
09:09.35kergothevl: i presume 'none' is also an option?
09:09.40evlyes, it's called disable :P
09:10.39kergothheh :)
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09:12.49Punkie`Ah yeah, gotta love Bank Holidays
09:13.00Bam__:(
09:14.43nevcairielso, someone added a package file to Babble-2.2 .. i dont think that will actually work that good, since most mods only OptDep "Babbel-2.2" and not the LoD versions :o
09:16.35nevcairieli hope the auto-loading code from AceLibrary works :)
09:16.41Bam__Babble-2.2 is itself LoD
09:16.47nevcairieli know
09:17.01nevcairielso a addon has Babble-2.2 as OptDep
09:17.24nevcairielbut if you unpack Babble itself again, you would need OptDeps von like Babble-Spell-2.2
09:17.30nevcairielor hope AceLibrary can load it
09:17.31nevcairiel:)
09:18.09Bam__hmm yea or could you say that if you have Babble-2.2 as OptDep, you are basically asking for all of them?
09:19.17Bam__oh wait... if they are unpacked, there will be no Babble-2.2 to load?
09:21.12nevcairielwell there will
09:21.18nevcairielbut it wont contain any data
09:21.39Bam__hmm... so what do you suggest putting in OptDep?
09:22.35nevcairielboth
09:22.42nevcairielBabble-2.2 and Babble-Spell-2.2
09:22.46nevcairielor whatever you need
09:22.46Bam__ok
09:23.00Bam__what if you put neither?
09:23.06Bam__and just relied on AceLibrary to find them
09:23.22nymbiait will
09:23.25nymbiaif they're present
09:24.44nevcairielthe problem is
09:24.50nevcairielAceLibrary only loads one addon
09:24.52nevcairieland returns
09:25.08nevcairielso if it finds Babble-2.2, which offers Babble-Spell-2.2 in its .toc
09:25.11nevcairielit will load that
09:25.14nevcairieland be done
09:25.31nevcairielbut we unpacked the data, so we actually need Babble-Spell-2.2 ( the LoD Addon )
09:25.54nymbiaAceLibrary will load it.
09:26.21Bam__so what will happen when your code calls AceLibrary("Babble-SomethingElse-2.2")?
09:26.27Bam__wont it go out and look again?
09:26.29nevcairielAceLibrary iterates through all addons
09:26.36nevcairielbut it returns from the loading func
09:26.39nevcairielwhen it found the first one
09:26.52nevcairielusing the X-AceLibrary- header
09:27.05nymbiabut if you requested Babble-Spell-2.2,,,,,
09:27.15nymbiathen its not gonna load anything but Babble-Spell-2.2
09:27.32nevcairielBabble-2.2 itself, has a .toc header for Babble-Spell-2.2
09:27.55Bam__and all the rest...
09:27.55nevcairieland thats all AceLibrary checks for
09:28.15nevcairielunless you unpack, and delete the Babble-2.2 directory
09:29.00nevcairieljust thinking, that unpacking Babble-2.2 isnt that safe
09:29.34Bam__hmm.. gotta understand what WAU does better... do you think it can be run on a machine without WoW installed?
09:29.46nevcairieli guess
09:29.56Bam__im on Mac but would try it in a virtual PC
09:30.03nymbianevcairiel: ah yeah.
09:33.36nevcairiela quick fix would be not returning after loading the first addon
09:33.41nevcairielin that TryLoadStandalone func
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09:37.07nymbianevcairiel: but would that fifth return of GetAddOnInfo be true for something already loaded?
09:37.44nevcairielnymbia: not sure, but i can test, sec
09:38.06nevcairieloh
09:38.08nevcairielm
09:38.12CIA-2303jerry * r34710 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: fix french locale
09:38.17nymbiaif it only returns for those that are LoD but not loaded.. then it works, but kinda.. flakily.
09:38.19nevcairieli think it will not cause issues with Babble
09:38.32nevcairielthe first loading part
09:38.38nevcairielshould load babble-spell-2.2 just fine
09:38.51nevcairielbut in theory, it could still cause issues
09:38.59nymbiai agree
09:40.58nymbiaunrelated to the actual issue.. but that function shouldn't need to grab the name
09:41.19nymbiaLoadAddOn(i) would be just fine with one fewer variable
09:42.01nevcairielthe loadable is always 1 for LoD addons
09:42.06nevcairielno matter if loaded already
09:42.12Bam__hmm seems to be hanging on "Retrieving available addons"... or is that generally slow the first time?
09:46.40Bam__aha... had to create "Interface/AddOns" :)
09:47.02nevcairielheh
09:49.13kergothhmm, fubar_classtimerfu is nice but it misses stuff at times
09:49.56nymbiackknight: ping
09:49.59HjalteIn 2.1 addons are able to tell between different mobs with the same name, yeah?
09:50.12ckknightnymbia: pong
09:50.25ckknightHjalte: i don't know where you got that idea
09:50.39ckknightyou can't fetch a uid for a mob
09:50.44Hjalteckknight: Oh, i got it in here, yesterday. I am sure someone mentioned it.
09:50.49nevcairielthat would be a great feature, tho
09:51.23HjalteMust have been related to another subject then. Sigh. And yeah, it would be great.
09:51.29nymbiackknight: dunno if you caught any of it but nevcairiel and i were discussing a problem with packaging on libraries.. anyway, AceLibrary diff to deal with it (eliminated an extraneous variable too) http://ace.pastey.net/23505
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09:52.48ckknightwhy do you set loadable as not a local?
09:53.08nymbiableh, my bad
09:53.16nymbiathose could be selects, too
09:53.29nymbiabut there wasn't a local copy around so i didnt want to assume
09:53.45ckknightdon't use select
09:53.46ckknightno need
09:54.28Fisker-heh Hjalte
09:54.39Fisker-It was just that we talked about mobid's yesterday :P
09:54.50Fisker-and that it wasn't possible for the ui to detect it
09:55.01Fisker-but allakhazam apparently got it from cache files and so on
09:56.43Bam__well it's WAU works in Parallels :)
10:01.39Bam__hmm I wonder how many users actually use the option "WITHOUT externals"
10:01.47Bam__maybe it should be the default?
10:02.25nevcairielnah
10:02.28nevcairielit breakts too much
10:02.33nevcairielif you are unlucky
10:02.37Bam__ok
10:02.54nevcairieldefault with integrated libs is good enough for the majority of users
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10:17.38kergoththat new rotate minimap feature is nifty, now just need NSEW arrows around the edges that rotate with it
10:17.41kergothheh
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10:26.33Fisker-http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tarren+Mill&n=Gorgarah <-lolwut
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10:26.46SunTigerwhy would you want to rotate the minimap ?
10:27.02SunTigerpeople are already getting lost when they know wich way is north
10:27.07SunTigerimagine if they can rotate stuff
10:27.08SunTigerbad.
10:27.59kergothit spins it so that up on the minimap is where you're facing, instead of north
10:28.04kergothsome people will find that more intuitive
10:28.42nymbiai'd get lost like cazy
10:28.50nymbias/cazy/crazy/
10:28.58kergothits growing on me
10:29.07kergothi just need a compass or rotating nsew now
10:29.07kergothheh
10:29.15nevcairielheh
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10:30.25kergothwhee, i could get dizzy watching the map though :P
10:30.55kergothgod, <3 not having charges on poisons anymore
10:31.52Fisker-nymbia
10:31.56SunTigeryou were running out
10:31.57SunTiger?
10:32.14Fisker-Is there anyway i would be able to simulate a whisper from a GM to myself?
10:32.22evl2.1 this week?
10:32.26evlunlikely yes :/
10:32.38SunTigeryou could simply write a purple line with <gm>name : text to your chat frame.
10:32.49kergothSunTiger: i've been carrying 80 poison at all times, with this i'll be happy with 40
10:32.49kergoth:P
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10:32.51Fisker-given that they said they're revamping items i doubt it
10:33.04kergoth(80/40 of whatever the primary poison is i'm using at the time)
10:33.07nevcairielmost rogues i know run out of time
10:33.11nevcairielbefore charges
10:33.13Fisker-SunTiger perhaps but it wouldn't get registered like it was a real whisper or from a GM either right?
10:33.24Fisker-Shiv rogues don't
10:33.31Fisker-dunno if they're overpowered anymore though
10:33.37evlnevcairiel: on a single boss i spend over half my anestethic off hand stack forcing me to renew it to not run out in the next fight
10:33.37wobinwah?
10:33.39wobinpoison?
10:33.41wobinchanges?
10:33.44wobinwhat?
10:33.49evlthey are removing charges
10:33.51evltime only
10:33.54evllike stones
10:33.55wobin^^
10:33.58kergothi run out of poison due to charges all the time
10:34.01kergothmost of the time, in fact
10:34.10kergothbut i have 5/5 of both poison talents, i'm a mutilate build
10:34.22nadaswith mutilate i always ran out of charges
10:34.28Fisker-same here with shiv
10:34.41evlI run out with 5/5 4/5 all the time :P
10:34.59[Ammo]mooo
10:35.01nevcairieloh well most rogues i know are combat tho
10:35.10Fisker-omg shiv!
10:35.23kergothdamn, elkbuffbars is hot, /me removes buffalo from his set
10:35.41[Ammo]kergoth I have a question :p
10:36.11[Ammo]mind if I hack up kEnergy to remove metrognome and use its own tiny onupdate frame with basically same functionality but reducing my libs in use by 1 :)
10:36.12Fisker-OMG that hot kergoth?
10:36.39kergoth[Ammo]: hahah, feel free, i just haven't gotten around to hacking on it lately, been actually *gasp* playing
10:36.45[Ammo]play?!
10:36.46nevcairielheh
10:36.47[Ammo]oh noes
10:37.12Punkie`go do it ammo dammit
10:37.15Fisker-I got an idea
10:37.19Fisker-Like BigWigs
10:37.24evlI've always wanted an addon that automatically moves raid icons as mobs die/get cc'ed
10:37.26Punkie`been wanting to get rid of metro for aggesss
10:37.36Fisker-exactly the same, except it automatically distributes settings and shuts up other people who broadcast as well
10:37.37evlso skull is always the current one
10:37.45Fisker-Lets call it BigWigs_Classic
10:37.54Fisker-and rename old Bigwigs to BigWigs2
10:38.11Loki|muhanyone knows if Garr in MC is doable with 5 man at lvl70?
10:38.11wobinOldWigs
10:38.14wobinor CombOver
10:38.22kergothhehe
10:39.00[Ammo]littlewigs is coming along nice as well
10:39.02wobinLoki|muh: It'd be horrifically painful, I can tell you that =P
10:39.10[Ammo]although some of the modules plain don't work
10:39.18nevcairiela feature to shut other announcers up would still be great tho
10:39.23kergothyea littlewigs is nice
10:39.36evlkergoth: lol, welcome to dps :P
10:39.40[Ammo]nevcairiel: hmm
10:39.49evleven in PVP 41/20 obliterates opp
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10:40.07[Ammo]nevcairiel: problem is it would have to be 'this session only'
10:40.08Fisker-exactly nevcairiel
10:40.09kergothevl: no kidding, i've been playing with it on the ptr and am already amazed by the boost in dps due to the white damage alone
10:40.13kergoth<3
10:40.16[Ammo]nevcairiel: otherwise it's sucky
10:40.16Fisker-exactly [Ammo] :P
10:40.18Fisker-^^
10:40.27Fisker-It's because we have like 5 or 6 raidleaders
10:40.31Fisker-and they all run raids and have bigwigs
10:40.34nevcairiel[Ammo]: sure, like it /random's for all people wiht announce active in the raid
10:40.43Fisker-So we obviously got like some silly 2-3 people broadcasting
10:40.44evlkergoth: during a stunlock in PVP 40% of my damage done there is white, it's pretty amazing when you look at the numbers
10:40.45[Ammo]if UnitName("player") == "Ammo" then STFU() end
10:41.09evlkergoth: and there's nothing like shiv'ing clothies for 800 :=
10:41.13[Ammo]nevcairiel: first one to request announce gets it :p
10:41.14nevcairiel[Ammo]: or allow the L to disable announce for other A's
10:41.15[Ammo]how about that
10:41.17kergothhahah
10:41.18Fisker-omg Elkano how do i get blessing of demostration?
10:41.33[Ammo]could do it with a simple sync
10:41.35nevcairiel[Ammo]: or that, what do i care, just disable announces for others, heh
10:41.35Elkanoshow the anchor
10:41.39kergothi just noticed all the trash i'm killing ends up dead before they get out of kidney shot, never get my 5cp envenom off on em
10:41.51nevcairiel[Ammo]: with version check maybe, higher version gets announce rights.
10:41.52kergoththat's new.
10:41.56kergothhehe
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10:42.23[Ammo]nevcairiel: I'll have a chat with vhaarr about it
10:42.24wobinI quite like envenom
10:42.26[Ammo]see what we can come up with
10:42.40kergothcan't believe they're boosting the amount of blinding powder from junkboxes
10:42.40wobinalthough I want some timers for deadly poison
10:42.46kergothi have 250 blinding powder in the bank right now
10:42.51kergothi always come back to town with more than i left with
10:42.53kergothand thats before 2.1
10:42.56wobinhehe
10:43.07kergoth<3 pickpocket cheapshot/ambush/garotte macros
10:43.25wobinhow does that work?
10:43.29wobinhit the macro twice?
10:43.33kergothnope
10:43.38kergothit doesnt trigger the gcd or anything, its free
10:43.42kergothand yo ucan do it while moving
10:43.45wobinthe pickpocket?
10:43.48kergothyea
10:43.52wobindon't you have to click the lootwindow?
10:43.56Fisker-bah Elkano
10:43.56kergothautoloot ftw
10:44.01Fisker-i just don't like the whole bar thingy
10:44.02[Ammo]it does: /cast Pick Pocket; /stopcasting; /cast Ambush
10:44.04kergothCutup even has a module to just turn it on only during the pickpocket
10:44.05[Ammo]autoloot on
10:44.06Fisker-wastes too much space
10:44.07kergoth:)
10:44.09wobinomg
10:44.17wobinyou can mousefree pickpocket?
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10:44.22kergothits awesome, i have a stockpile of super healing pots and blinding powder in the bank
10:44.24kergothyep
10:44.27wobinthat's so overpowered =)
10:44.30wobinI love it
10:44.31[Ammo]wobin: it pwns
10:44.32Fisker-damn
10:44.35Fisker-really overpowered
10:44.40wobinI have no reason not to pickpocket anymore
10:44.41kergothsaw someone post about it on roguespot
10:44.41[Ammo]I used it on my little rogue
10:44.46wobinIt just used to be too much trouble
10:44.48kergothwobin: indeed
10:44.50[Ammo]and he had money for his mount at like level 30 :p
10:44.53kergothhehe
10:44.56nevcairielheh
10:44.59evlit's very simple
10:45.13[Ammo]that macro inspired me to write LockSmith as well
10:45.20[Ammo]since I got soooo many boxes
10:45.20kergothhehe
10:45.23kergothyea
10:45.25evl1. auto loot on in interface options 2. /cast Pick Pocket; /stopcasting; /cast <Ambush/Cheap Shot/Garrotte>
10:45.38evland you get 10s per mob you attack extra
10:45.39kergothi was grinding rep on the ogres in nagrand, by the time i had 66 beads, i had 18 junkboxes in the inventory
10:45.59Gngskwhere can I find LockSmith?
10:46.00evlI basically grind blinding, cloth and health pots at the same time :P
10:46.03kergothits great for lockpicking too, you'll max it 5 minutes after hitting 70 on a new rogue
10:46.20evlI just did the containers in south swap
10:46.56Gngsknvm, see it on files
10:49.41[Ammo]locksmith pops up a pickpocket button in the middle of your screen that you can click till it goes away
10:49.50[Ammo]when it's gone, all boxes you can unlock are unlocked
10:50.00[Ammo]alt-drag to move the button
10:50.17[Ammo]I wanted to add an opener as wlel
10:50.24[Ammo]for unlocked boxes
10:50.27wobinNah
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10:50.31wobinthe unlocking is fine
10:50.40wobinUnless you're going to write a generic opener
10:50.40Chosii barely dare to ask...what happened to ocb? :>
10:50.41wobinfor CLAMS
10:50.45Chosiand what do i use instead?
10:50.48[Ammo]corkfu can open clams!
10:50.49Chosiand hi there
10:50.52[Ammo]but I can make a generic opener
10:50.56[Ammo]CBRipoff
10:51.00wobinhaste moved all his addons to his server
10:51.07wobinwell off wowace anyway
10:51.13Chosimhkay
10:51.24Chosicbripoff then
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10:51.32wobinI just use pitbull's castbar isntead now
10:51.34kergothi was gonna do a generic opener, then i didn't.
10:51.48Chosiwell that sounds like a possibility aswell
10:51.49kergothhaste has a seperate addon just for mirror bars now, might use that with pitbull's casting frame
10:51.52Chosiis it disabled by default?
10:51.56Chosi(pitbull cb)
10:52.14wobinnot afaik
10:52.25Chosimh lemme check
10:52.27Fisker-ClamIt wobin
10:52.45Fisker-Would be the best addon ever
10:52.50[Ammo]a generic opener is easy
10:53.06[Ammo]but requires a lot of id's or a good parser of the <right click to open>
10:53.07[Ammo]or something
10:53.32Chosiah well wobin
10:53.38Chosican i detach the castbar from the playerframe?
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10:54.08kergoththere was an automatic opener i saw long ago, but it fucked up badly when you ran out of inventory, better to just have a locksmith like button
10:54.08kergothheh
10:54.19wobinDon't think so, Chosi
10:54.22Chosimhm
10:54.25Chosicbripoff then :)
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10:56.48[Ammo]kergoth: well you can't autoopen anwyay
10:56.50[Ammo]so you need a button
10:56.59[Ammo]locksmith like button would work
10:57.14[Ammo]could probably whip something up in 15 mins but shrug
10:57.16[Ammo]duty calls
10:57.52nevcairielignore the calls!
10:58.31[Ammo]can't
10:58.37[Ammo]it put bread no the table
10:58.41[Ammo]s/no/on/
11:02.23[Ammo]hmm it's actually uber easy
11:02.23[Ammo]meh
11:02.56[Ammo]name suggestion for the addon?
11:04.31GngskOpenSesame!
11:04.55evlCrowbar
11:06.01HjalteI like Crowbar
11:06.20CIA-2303roartindon * r34711 10Aloft/ (Aloft.toc Extras/IsTotemTag.lua):
11:06.20CIA-23Aloft
11:06.21CIA-23- Added isTotem tag that advanced users can use to customise health bar colors/background frame colors/text
11:08.08[Ammo]crowbar is nice
11:08.12[Ammo]but meh
11:08.14[Ammo]ok
11:09.50kergothhmmmm, if i was patient, i'd probably stop my consortium rep grind until 2.1 due to the new quests there, but i'm not, so i guess i'll keep at it
11:09.58evlheh :=)
11:10.03evlExalted is so 2 weeks ago
11:10.07evlme and a priest friend
11:10.17evlcombat fists with riposte = ZOOOOOM
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11:10.45evlAll my guildies (and some on this chan) were like "omg that dagger sucks ass"
11:10.55evlbut now it turns out you need exalted to buy the new JC recipies :D
11:10.56evlwin!
11:12.43kergothyea, i just dropped skinning for jc for that hot earthstorm diamond the other day, since i'm grinding it anyway
11:13.12evlI make aproximately 250g a day with JC
11:13.27kergothmy guild is only just starting kara, so i figure riftslayer / guile of khorazi with my mutilate build should be okay
11:13.27evlsolid stars of elune probably 150 alone
11:13.31nevcairielmy rogue friend is JC as well, but she is patient enough to wait for the quests on consortium
11:13.32kergothdamn
11:13.48evlkergoth: before the nerf Guile is the best offhand mutilate dagger in the game except maybe glad hiv
11:14.07kergothnerf makes me sad
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11:14.39wobinhm
11:14.41wobinname eh?
11:14.49nevcairielthe glad daggers get 2 maxdmg nerfed away too tho :p
11:14.54Gngskkhoraazi!
11:15.05wobinGDO
11:15.09JoshBorkesplut!
11:15.15wobinGarageDoorOpener
11:15.29[Ammo]for the brave: http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/CrowBar.zip
11:15.33[Ammo]100% drycode
11:15.34evlIt's just bullshit really
11:15.34[Ammo]but it should work
11:15.41evlBS crafted items are getting buffed
11:15.45evlso now I can get overpowered for more than 3000
11:15.46evl<3
11:17.01[Ammo]7 mins drycoding
11:17.01[Ammo]hehe
11:17.04[Ammo]schweeet
11:17.13[Ammo]no PC to test it on though
11:18.03Fisker-crowbar?
11:18.15CIA-2303evl * r34712 10PitBull/ (Fonts/Blend.ttf Layouts/Blend.lua PitBull.toc):
11:18.15CIA-23PitBull
11:18.15CIA-23- Added Blend layout. Similar to oUF but with some tweaks to positioning, icon sizes and cast bar placement.
11:18.42[Ammo]Fisker-: opens clams, boxes etc
11:18.55[Ammo]at least, that's what it _should_ do
11:19.09evl[Ammo]: i want massive credit for name, preferably in stars like this: *Evl was here biatches bling bling bling*
11:19.27[Ammo]haha
11:19.32[Ammo]evl: just test it will ya?
11:19.34[Ammo]:p
11:19.42[Ammo]should pop up a button with a big red box
11:19.53Fisker-nooooooo
11:19.57Fisker-You used the wrong name
11:19.58evlI can't, already have my Ninja WoW™ up in windowed coding more combo points fixes
11:19.59Fisker-CLAMIT!
11:20.16[Ammo]haha
11:20.16evlWaiting for ckk now so he can rape my patch
11:20.23ckknight_no, busy
11:20.30evlthat's harsh
11:20.48Loki|muhlol
11:21.12Elkano\o\ Loki|muh /o/
11:21.33Loki|muhElkano: :)
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11:22.34Loki|muhElkano: whats going on with your new buff bars? I had no time to give them a try :(
11:22.45Elkanojust do it ^^
11:23.16yacoobyipes!
11:23.57kergoth[Ammo]: it works, but it takes quite a while to pick up that i picked the junkbox's lock, likely just need to poll quicker
11:24.02kergoth[Ammo]: :)
11:24.40Fisker-I hate those method guys already Boubouille
11:24.45Fisker-fucking selfcentered assholes
11:25.04kergothhmm, you're checking ever 0.5 seconds, but it took longer than that to pick it up
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11:25.41[Ammo]kergoth: dunno
11:25.43[Ammo]but it works?
11:25.45kergothyea
11:25.46[Ammo]haha
11:25.47[Ammo]DRYCODE
11:25.48[Ammo]ZOMG
11:25.54kergothshowed up, clicked it, looted, all sexy like
11:25.57kergothhehe
11:25.58[Ammo]hahaha
11:25.59[Ammo]imba
11:26.03kergothaye
11:26.11kergothlocksmith + crowbar = happy rogues
11:26.14[Ammo]yeah
11:26.27[Ammo]now I just need to commit it I guess :)
11:26.55[Ammo]I should add a tooltip on hover showing which item it's about to open
11:27.03[Ammo]but shrug
11:27.22kergoththat wouldnt be bad, but honestly you shouldnt have enough shit to open that the icon is ambiguous :P
11:27.43[Ammo]true
11:27.58nevcairieli have a million clams after running SV
11:27.59nevcairielor so
11:28.14clad|sleepJaggal Pearls ftw!
11:28.18CIA-2303ammo * r34713 10CrowBar/: CrowBar: creating folder for import
11:28.38Megalonand the clam meat is easy stamina food
11:28.46clad|workaye
11:28.53clam_meatplease, no!
11:28.55nevcairielheh
11:29.00clad|worki need to level my cooking, and my fishing
11:29.05clad|workmy fishing on my priest is at 7/75
11:29.39clad|worksince when I leveled her up, I was rolling so we had a priest for MC and this time I was trying to catch up with the guild I wanted to join
11:29.50kergothi need to level my fishing on my rogue, its stalled at like 330, waiting for 2.1 to hit so it wont take as long
11:29.59clad|workhehe
11:30.03clad|worki agree, that'll be nice
11:30.14clad|workso pants, coming straight from the dryer.. how long do you think they'll take to dry on their own?
11:30.30Mikma4 hours?
11:30.41kergothcoming from the washer, i presume?
11:30.42clad|workMikma: maybe in crack-pot land O.o
11:30.42kergothheh
11:30.47clad|workkergoth: oh, yes =)
11:30.59clad|workduuuuur
11:31.05Mikmaclad|work: on their own, 4 hours.
11:31.20clad|workoh i meant in the dryer, by themeselves
11:31.26Mikmabut you can fast it up by putting them to dry outside in the sun and in the wind
11:31.36CIA-2303ammo * r34714 10CrowBar/ (CrowBar.lua CrowBar.toc libs/):
11:31.36CIA-23CrowBar: initial import
11:31.37CIA-23pops up a button for opening 'openable' containers in your inventory, click and keep looting till the button goes away.
11:31.38clad|worki should just go to work.. the whole using words thing doesn't work well for me today
11:31.39Mikmaclad|work: then it's like 15mins
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11:34.13wobinclad|work: what sort of pants?
11:34.56wobinemergency pants?
11:35.14JoshBorkebell bottoms
11:35.25clad|workthey're just slacks
11:35.30clad|workand they dried just in time :P:
11:35.44JoshBorkelaundry not so ez?
11:36.22JoshBorkekergoth: gonna commit the bank fix now (only 4 days later)
11:36.29kergothhehe
11:36.29kergoththanks
11:36.30clad|workhave a good day all
11:36.48JoshBorkebye bye claddie waddie
11:36.49ChompersHot pants
11:37.42Megalonhot pants dry fast
11:37.49kergothJoshBorke: your svn publically accessible, or you just zipping it up for release as you go?
11:37.51Chompersas do short shorts
11:38.05JoshBorkekergoth: svn publicly accessible
11:38.18JoshBorke<PROTECTED>
11:38.24JoshBorkecrap, forgot to update DNS
11:38.58JoshBorkethat uh, won't work atm
11:39.50kergothhehe
11:39.50kergothk
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11:40.57Fisker-Gnarfoz !
11:41.14Fisker-He's gonna buy 2 x1950 Pro's instead!
11:41.15Fisker-:D
11:41.34CIA-2303roartindon * r34715 10Aloft/ (AloftTag.lua AloftTags.rtf):
11:41.34CIA-23AloftTag
11:41.34CIA-23- Added surroung and format tags.
11:41.34CIA-23- Updated AloftTags.rtf list
11:41.47Fisker-but hey atleast he'll be able to get half-decent scores in 3dmark :P
11:42.13[Ammo]kergoth: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5961.0
11:43.18Fisker-lolwut
11:43.24Fisker-had to post within like 2 seconds of the page loading
11:45.03Fisker-i'll be your lawyer
11:45.18Fisker-I'll take all the money and you can keep the squirrel
11:45.19evlWoot! nise!
11:45.37[Ammo]haha
11:45.38Megaloncan i also get a squirrel? .<
11:45.50[Ammo]the bikinis were sold out
11:45.52[Ammo]http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/images/squirrel_in_sweater_part_tr_1.jpg
11:45.57[Ammo]later :)
11:47.27evl:/
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11:52.17Gnarfozhi
11:52.34GnarfozFisker-: he's half saved, then :D
11:53.11Fisker-heh
11:54.11GnarfozI still struggle to explain to customers why they should get a core 2 duo instead of an athlon64 x2... they keep clinging on to the athlon's higher clock rate :<
11:55.08Fisker-yeah
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11:55.20Fisker-I remember with the release of C&C3
11:55.34Fisker-people were "Omg C&C 3 requires a 3GHz P4, but i only got a 2GHz Core 2 duo"
11:55.50Fisker-People came up with some nice theories
11:55.59Fisker-"Well it's because it's 2x2GHz so 4GHz"
11:56.00Fisker-:D
11:56.34Megaloner. hm.
11:56.41Fisker-Think i had to singlehandedly convinve like 10 people that it was just a matter of the Core2 Duo being more effective per cycle than the P4
11:56.53Fisker-Before backup arrived and told them i was right
11:57.02Roartindonmost people don't understand "Effective per cycle" means
11:57.23Roartindonexplain it to them like fuel efficiency.. something their wallet understands :)
11:57.41Megalonmost people prefer big numbers
11:57.41Fisker-heh
11:57.44Megalonno matter what they stand for
11:57.46Megalon:C
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12:01.30SaisMegalon: Their weight? ;P
12:02.12Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=285222450&postId=2848580881&sid=1#17 <- I FUCKING WIN THIS SHIT
12:02.15Fisker-:P
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12:09.05BoubouilleFisker- : http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=165.0 !
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12:09.07Boubouillenew thingz !
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12:09.31Megalonyea, thingies
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12:12.44Fisker-awesome Boubouille
12:14.09kenlyricyou know what that means!
12:14.41kenlyricevery single fight tuned around those.
12:14.47Fisker-heh
12:15.08kenlyricstil... no... waterwell
12:15.17Fisker-wait
12:15.23Fisker-is it warlocks or alchemists that can do that then?
12:15.31Megalonengis
12:15.58Boubouillealchemists
12:16.09Megalonreally?
12:16.15Boubouillei updated the news after the 3rd "wait, warlocks are overpowered !"
12:16.36Boubouillei even underlined the alchemy part :p
12:16.54Megalonat least engis our no needed to create the fel iron casing
12:16.55Megalon;X
12:17.10Megalons/our no/are now/
12:17.11Megalon>:<
12:17.17kenlyricI often feel as if we're being directed to that website as part of a nefarious advertising scheme.
12:17.38Boubouilleindeed.
12:17.54Boubouillenefarious advertising on a 175ppl channel, with 90% of them busy coding :p
12:18.22Boubouilletrust me, advertising on IRC sucks, badly.
12:18.31Fisker-btw Boubouille method isn't even worth mentioning
12:18.49BoubouilleBibi on @#wow.method
12:18.52Boubouille:p
12:19.10Boubouillethey're nice guys, they're worth mentioning !
12:19.36Fisker-Spamming GM's and acting as brats(well atleast some of them) isn't pretty nice to me
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12:19.43kenlyricdidn't the first kill get a bug, or something?
12:19.53kenlyricTAINTED
12:20.09Boubouillewell, killing Vashj and not getting the loots is really frustrating.
12:20.09Boubouille^^
12:20.19kenlyricfind my any guild that wouldn't do the exact same thing, and I'll show you a guild that's not at the head of the class?
12:20.25phyberL2BATS!
12:20.37Fisker-indeed Boubouille
12:20.37kenlyricYou have to be an asshole to run/work/succeed in a guild like that :)
12:20.49Fisker-But that doesn't mean that is more frustrating than any other situation
12:20.58evlI undestand blizzards economy here
12:21.25evlA) Fix an encounter that less than 100 people in the ENTIRE world have even seen/reached
12:21.41evlB) Work on more content for the remaining 899.999.899 people
12:22.35kenlyricit's more important to maintain the illusion that the other 99.9% of people will eventually get there, so the endgame stuff has to take first priority.
12:22.48Fisker-The encounter has to be fixed of course, but being arrogant about it doesn't solve it
12:23.37evlThey are as they always are
12:23.45evlas uninformative as is healthy for Blizzard
12:23.56evlit's like their waterproof EULA
12:24.42evlthere are no room for misinformation or misinterpetation, it simply says: "It's our game, and you rent a small spot here and we decide what the hell you are going to do and if it's bugged too bad cause we own the buggy content too"
12:25.02JagobahSounds a lot like SOE
12:25.06Jagobahand Verant before them
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12:25.38kenlyricuh, well, that would be every mmo ever.
12:25.56Gagorianevl: I'm pretty sure more than 100 people have reached vashj :P
12:26.03Fisker-they missed UO
12:26.40JagobahAll you'd need to do is kill all other bosses in SSC
12:26.52Jagobahand guilds have been killing Leotheras since early March
12:27.00GagorianOur guild just hasn't bothered to attempt her after clearin SSC. Time is better spent in TK
12:28.01GagorianAnd we clear SSC in two nights usually. Would leave ample of time to kill a not bugged vashj :l
12:28.35JagobahI'm ina more casual guild... and we just have Leotheras to do
12:28.49kenlyriclol
12:28.53Jagobahthis week we had Lurker Below respawn several times
12:28.59kenlyricthat's not quite the definition of casual that I would use.
12:29.13Jagobahwell
12:29.21JagobahWe're not exactly cutting edge content
12:29.26[Ammo]I'm in a 'casual' guild
12:29.33[Ammo]we killed gruul, and are working on Mag
12:30.35[Ammo]haven't set foot in SSC yet
12:30.35kenlyricthat's cutting edge for 99% of guilds out there.
12:30.35[Ammo]but shuld have enough people attuned
12:30.35JagobahOkay... then we're a hardcore guild that raids 4 times a week
12:30.36Jagobahsooo I dunno
12:30.36kenlyricheh.
12:30.36JagobahAenslaed can tell you more!
12:30.36[Ammo]we raid 25 man 2 times a week
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12:30.39[Ammo]rest is spent gearing up etc in karazhan
12:30.44kenlyricyou know, there is a place between hardcore and casual :)
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12:33.10kenlyricyour server might have a different threshhold, of course.
12:33.38kenlyriccount the number of guilds ahead of you in progression. If you run out of fingers, then I guess you aren't hardcore for your server :)
12:34.11JagobahOn our server we're top alliance guild on the server
12:34.11JagobahWorldwide we're nothing =\
12:34.11chutwigpoops
12:34.11evlMy server is dead
12:34.18evllow pop
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12:34.24evlnobody taken down magtheridon
12:34.53chutwiganyone at least killed gruul?
12:37.22evlyeah
12:37.39evlbut the server is empty
12:37.39evllow pop
12:37.39chutwigmost barren server i ever played on was dalvengyr horde side
12:37.42chutwigtotal wasteland
12:37.45evlI'm trying to find a new good EU alliance server with high pop and good PVP and PVE
12:37.51evlbut I have no idea where to start looking :P
12:38.01chutwigwhen you wish upon a star
12:38.56Silviu-evl Gorgonnash :P
12:39.15evlThe old servers seem the best really
12:39.15kenlyricpriest, I healz u, will transfer.
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12:40.38kenlyricwell, it used to be that the higher population you had, the greater quantity of advanced guilds you had. But karazhan screwed that up, because people are much less willing to break up a guild that's clearing karazhan.
12:40.49kenlyricSo you end up with a whole lot of tiny guilds and a recruiting pool that's tiny.
12:41.02chutwigeh
12:41.08chutwigi find that people are still pretty willing to try to move up
12:42.22chutwigmy server is so old that it's pretty grown-out now
12:42.28chutwigand our only recruiting base is transfers
12:42.51kenlyricwhen your guild had 15 people pre-TBC, there was really nothing for people to do but break off and find bigger guilds. Now there's an option. I suppose as time goes on and karazhan has the appeal of UBRS, that might change.
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12:44.35[Ammo]silly as it sounds, we lack rogues
12:44.38kenlyricI just really think the entry-level raid in TBC should have been 25 man
12:44.48[Ammo]and priests to an extent
12:44.56chutwigwe finally have 2 raiding shamans now
12:45.10chutwigfor some reason i was the only warlock who showed up to SSC last night
12:45.21kenlyricand yes, I know grull's lair is there, but that's just a couple boss fights. It's like onyxia x2. You could build upa  guild pretbc around onxyia, either.
12:45.25chutwiggood thing i had enough shards to summon everyone across the instance to morogrim
12:46.34kenlyricmake the fuckers run?
12:46.54kenlyricI'm guessing it's more complicated than that :)
12:47.14chutwigto get to morogrim you have to skip about two bosses and a shitload of trash
12:47.32chutwigso one of the shamans waterwalks me, a paladin BoP's me, and i run across the water
12:47.39chutwigalong with all the priests
12:47.48kenlyrichax
12:48.14kenlyricor, creative use of game mechanics.
12:48.35chutwigif you fall into the water the fish eat you, soooo
12:49.36Megalonit's like waterwalking to lurker below?
12:49.47chutwigyeah, except you have to go farther
12:49.51Megalonoh
12:49.53Megalonkk :D
12:49.59chutwigbut same deal
12:50.09Loki|muhBoP?
12:50.23chutwigblessing of protection so that the fish can't attack me for 10 seconds
12:50.27chutwigso i can jump out of the water and they despawn
12:50.43Loki|muhah
12:50.51Loki|muhnever been there but sounds funny
12:51.07JagobahYou can skip the first Tempest Keep boss and go to Void Reaver
12:51.08chutwigif you fall into the water it starts spawning little fishies that will chew on your face
12:51.14Jagobahbut you must clear trash  :(
12:51.23chutwigthere's still a lot of trash that has to be cleared
12:51.25chutwigSSC trash is a huuuuuge pain
12:51.29chutwigthe colossi have 900k hp
12:51.39chutwigand have random skill sets a la the AQ40 sentinels
12:52.00JagobahWait until you see the destructors in TK
12:52.27chutwigi still have to do heroic SL and SH but i'm waiting for 2.1 for the nerfs
12:53.01[Ammo]SL is easy
12:53.09[Ammo]SH is a pain
12:53.11Megalonbut SH
12:53.13Megalon>:<
12:53.16chutwignobody seems to want to do SL because it takes forever
12:53.21[Ammo]yeah
12:53.25[Ammo]soo much trash
12:53.40[Ammo]I did it once
12:53.42[Ammo]for hte quest
12:53.43[Ammo]took 5 hours
12:53.44[Ammo]meh
12:53.50[Ammo]suboptimal group though
12:53.56[Ammo]but did it, and not going back there for a while
12:53.59chutwigi also want to do SH to finish the nightbane quest
12:54.03chutwigand get the +6 dmg/+6 stam gem
12:54.07kenlyricsuboptimal group is *the* group... :/
12:54.26kenlyricthis game would be totally awesome with an optimal group of skilled players :)
12:54.37chutwigi will be slightly suboptimal in SH because my CC options there are limited
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12:54.42chutwigat least seduce will be more effective
12:54.58[Ammo]most are immune to seduce in heroic
12:54.58kenlyricyeah, having seduce in 2.1 will be huge for warlocks in heroics.
12:54.59[Ammo]yay
12:55.06kenlyricammo, fixed in 2.1
12:55.11[Ammo]oh fina fuckingly
12:55.16[Ammo]then 2x cc
12:55.17chutwigthey should've noted the seduce change as being "Warlocks will now be able to seduce mobs in heroic instances that do not have vaginas."
12:55.19[Ammo]1x seduce, 1x fear
12:55.49chutwigi still envision some really nerve-wracking pulls in SH
12:55.53chutwigwith those 6-mob pulls
12:55.55kenlyricbasically, seduce was treated like mind control, and they didn't want you mind controlling mobs.
12:56.22kenlyricso they made seduce no longer the same type of effect as mind control.
12:56.38chutwigi wonder if this means wotf won't be able to break it :ninja:
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12:57.51wobinoh man
12:58.07wobinProfessor von Hagens is freaky =)
12:58.20wobinThat hat just makes him scary
12:58.25wobinalong with the accent
13:00.31Megalonhehe
13:01.15Megalonon some fotos he looks one of his own examples :p
13:01.29chutwighe looks like todt from that indiana jones movie
13:01.30Megalon+like
13:04.07chutwigcurse you flickr!
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13:04.13chutwigyou've gone and changed the order of my photos
13:04.27chutwigthere that's better
13:05.40chutwigokay
13:05.46chutwigso who's a horticulturalist in here
13:05.53chutwigand can identify this flower for me
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13:08.07Megalonhortiwtf :C
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13:10.50wobinwhich flower?
13:11.31wobindespite his creepiness, his tv show is incredibly informative
13:11.45chutwigdamn you flickr!
13:12.02chutwighttp://www.flickr.com/photos/edmundrhudy/487154539/in/set-72157600184433235/ that flower
13:14.01wobinhm
13:14.03wobinit is pink!
13:14.20chutwigthat it is
13:14.37chutwigi felt sort of like data saying "it is green" when i labelled it
13:14.50wobinalas, I recognise it not
13:14.59chutwigbecause naturally i forgot to look at the little sign underneath the bush
13:15.03chutwigthat would've told me what it is
13:15.53Gngskazalea
13:16.09chutwigyou are a good man
13:17.09kenlyricsigh, the youth of today.
13:17.18kenlyricData wasn't the first one to say "it is green" :/
13:17.21chutwigmy flower identification skills are weak
13:18.57Ordogis there anybody here that is good at mysql table structure design?
13:19.13chutwigi have been known to design databases before
13:19.20wobinaye
13:19.23chutwigand complain incessantly about those who do not do it well
13:19.40wobinit's true
13:19.53chutwigwho needs primary keys am i right
13:20.02Ordog:)
13:20.02SaisAnyone who's good at something complains about those who do it badly :D
13:20.05kenlyricjust a wasted field!
13:20.24Ordogwell shall i put my question right here or should i start a query?
13:20.32chutwigfire in the hole
13:20.41chutwigask here so wobin and i can argue
13:20.48Ordoghehe ok
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13:20.53chutwigand degenerate into name calling
13:21.03Ordoglooking forward to that
13:21.09SaisSave time - just go for the name calling
13:21.19chutwigwobin: vainglorious braggart!
13:21.43SaisDid that answer the question, Ordog?
13:23.13Ordogbasically i got a whole bunch of data about users here. Its all about users of a service, their ips, idents, cservice auths(irc auth), nicks, desciptions (full name)
13:24.05Ordogim using that information to find people that try to abuse the service by creating multiple accounts
13:24.54BoubouilleFISKER_Q : they're getting the loots. ^^
13:25.07Ordoguntil now im using a big table that holds all of that information, any row holds anything about that user at a specific time (when they start to use the service)
13:25.31kenlyricwtb glowcap tracking filter
13:25.56Ordogso many rows contain the mostly same information despite a single field
13:26.19wobinwhat is unique about the users?
13:26.28chutwigfrom the fields you listed
13:26.42chutwigyou can probably break user and IP out into a separate table since presumably you're filtering on IP
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13:26.54chutwigprobably ident too but that's pretty easy to change/spoof
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13:27.11Ordogthe main attribute is the cservice auth
13:27.35chutwigwhatever is going to remain the most static is what should be moved into a separate table
13:27.35Ordogeasy to create a new one nowerdays sadly
13:28.06Gnarfoz_Boubouille: you mean, like... right now? :)
13:28.14chutwigthe most simple reorganization is to have cservice and UID in one table and join to the other table via UID
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13:29.02Ordoghm sounds reasonable
13:29.47chutwigdoing that with the existing data will be a little bit of a pain
13:29.53Ordogso i just have to select the cservice to get the uid and then select any row that has that uid
13:30.03chutwigyeah
13:30.25chutwigthe exact syntax escapes me at the moment because i am running on less than 5 hours of sleep and my brain is operating at 6502 speeds
13:30.36Ordog;P
13:32.03Ordogok i think that will do, thank you :)
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13:32.43chutwigyou can probably write an UPDATE out to write the UID into the existing table after you create the new table to break the cservice nicks out
13:34.12Ordoghm its just replacing the cservice with uid while keeping cservice => uid in a seperate table
13:34.27Megalonyou can just select the unique cserv-nicks into a new table + autoincrement index, than applying a new field in the old table, updating the index from the other table there, and after all delete unneeded fields in the old table
13:35.45Ordoghm i need to resolve cservice from the other fields sometimes
13:36.45Ordogin that case i have to walk through the whole table again
13:37.19Ordogwhat i had in mind were multiple tables with just two fields with uid(cservice) and the information bit is stored
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13:37.40Megalonso you store user accounts
13:37.43Megalonand want to log
13:37.48Megalonlike the login times
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13:37.53Megalonwhen, which ip, etc?
13:38.14Ordogim using that information to filter out similarities between users
13:38.28Ordogso i can guess which are evading a ban etc
13:38.44Ordogor just got many accounts
13:39.44chutwigevasive maneuver
13:39.47HjalteCan anyone tell me how many times a priests renew tick?
13:39.58chutwig6, i think
13:39.58Ordogim writing a tool they have to use on their pcs to register a cservice auth with our service that takes harddrive serials and macs(still spoofable ...) but vista sucks ass with that
13:40.21Ordoguntil that (or another way...) works i have to stick with the similarity datamining
13:40.25FISKER_Qomg n00bs Boubouille
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13:41.44Megalonisn't renew 15, so 5 ticks?
13:41.48Megalon15seconds
13:42.16chutwignot a priest!
13:42.31Ordoga few numbers about the service: ~1000 users at any time of the day, around 40000 registered cservice auths, around 6000 unique users ......
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13:46.08wobinhm
13:46.18wobinmy autopickpocket macro doesn't seem to work =(
13:46.38Thrae"auto pick-pocket"?
13:46.51evl1. /cast Pick Pocket; /stopcasting; /cast Cheap Shot
13:46.51wobinwell pickpocket with autoloot + cheapshot
13:46.56chutwigdo the modifiers on macros work on any keybinds as well?
13:47.02ThraeWhat, does it turn you black? Oooo, racism!
13:47.02evland autoloot needs to be one
13:47.04evlon
13:47.05chutwiglike for example i have a spell lock macro on middle mouse click
13:47.09wobinevl: It seems either to do one or the other
13:47.19evlworks for me :(
13:47.22chutwigand if i add a clause that has alt as a modifier to spell lock my focus instead of my current target
13:47.26wobinmodifier on autoloot?
13:47.27chutwigwill alt-middle click work?
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13:47.45chutwigi mean, i could just write the macro and test it, but i'm not logged in at the moment
13:48.00wobinI have it on three separate lines
13:48.03evli've used that macro for like 4 months
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13:48.13evlare you sure ot's spelled Pick Pocket?
13:48.24wobinyeah
13:48.32KilrooWhat macro?
13:48.33evl./stopcasting
13:49.07KilrooAh.
13:50.52wobin/cast Pick Pocket
13:50.57wobin/stopcasting
13:51.02wobin/cast Cheap Shot
13:51.18chutwig<PROTECTED>
13:51.28Gngsklol
13:51.31Gngskall classes are ezmode!
13:51.49wobinactually
13:51.51wobinit may be working
13:51.56wobinmust do more research
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13:54.57BoubouilleFISKER_Q : http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/krakken.png
13:55.32evlIf I get more 2.1 spoilers now someone might as well just make a fucking walkthrough movie :P
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13:56.27Megalonnice chest
13:56.43chutwiggod damned molex connectors
13:56.59chutwigforged in the deepest circle of hell by satan's most trusted lieutenants
13:57.31sbuhmmm <3 cauldrons
13:57.43FISKER_Qthey are you best friends chutwig
13:57.47sbubut this should be engineering stuff :p
13:57.50FISKER_Qdon't abandon them like that
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13:58.09chutwigokay
13:58.16chutwignow i have an empty xserve raid drive tray
14:00.17ckknighthey all
14:00.31ckknightso I have had to write a whole bunch of papers for my political science class
14:00.34chutwiganother death star bites the dust
14:00.39FISKER_Qnice
14:00.40ckknight5 topics, 1-2 pages each
14:00.50ckknightworking on the last one now
14:00.57knarf-is there a mod that have the functionality like postal with shift + click to open & loot the mail ?
14:00.59chutwigit was all the fault of the communists
14:01.06ckknightlousy commies
14:01.13chutwigand fisker
14:01.17chutwigthe communists and fisker
14:01.24Saispolitics and science in the same phrase? Must be a mistake
14:02.07FISKER_Qsame shit chuckg
14:02.08FISKER_Qchutwig
14:02.11ckknightthat is a horrible thing to say, Sais, you do realize that, right?
14:03.04chutwigscience and reason have no place in politics
14:04.10Sais(or religion)
14:04.35ckknightmy current paper is basically me detailing my political beliefs
14:04.45ckknightmostly been ranting about property rights thus far...
14:04.45MegalonFSM is the only real religion!
14:04.54ckknightnot sure what else to put...
14:05.32Saisck: Detailing political beliefs? That would be a very short paper for me :D
14:05.49Sais"Fish", a la Rimmer
14:06.29SaisAlthough...there must be some topical political debate you could expound on, no?
14:06.56wobin"I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish. I am a fish."
14:07.15Sais*salutes*
14:07.46FISKER_QNO I AM A FISH
14:08.14wobinhm
14:08.29ckknightokay, I talked about property rights, guns, international war, and drugs
14:08.30ckknightwhat else?
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14:08.42wobinit seems that I pickpocket, the loot window pops up, then goes away as soon as the cheapshot hits
14:08.56wobinI get the coins, but nothing else
14:09.09kenlyricloot lag
14:09.55wobinw=(
14:09.57knarf-nice just noticed now that it says (cat) next to the class of my druid friend in party with pitbull :P
14:09.59wobins/w//
14:10.24wobinI might go the castsequence way then
14:10.48wobinif I could recall the syntax =P
14:12.16ckknightknarf-: :-)
14:12.21ckknightknarf-: should work with all the forms
14:15.35wallenckknight: did you edit something about debuffs not showing on targets that are in your party?
14:16.05ckknightwallen: mmm... yes
14:16.10ckknightit should work, though
14:16.33Gnarfoz_yay, "fastpath" ftw
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14:19.55ckknightk, I called for the abolition of marriage...
14:19.58wallenckknight: I see, it's just that I was duelling a warrior in my same party and I couldn't see my dots on him
14:20.03ckknightstill feels like I'm missing something
14:20.27wallenand if I target myself while being dead, I can't see the "ghost" debuff which shows up if I switch to configuration mode though
14:20.35wallenit just disappears whenever I go turn conf mode off
14:20.41ckknightwallen: *shrug* dunno
14:21.10wallenalrighty
14:21.19GnarfozBam__: getting rid of something
14:21.25Gnarfozverb: to abolish
14:21.27Bam__ahh thanks :)
14:21.38Bam__ohh I knew that one
14:21.47Bam__I have a druid lol
14:22.56Bam__well im 36 and have still resisted marriage :P
14:23.12Bam__... or maybe marriage has resisted me... :(
14:23.25SaisBam: ditto :D
14:23.46ckknightBam__: I just don't feel that marriage has much to do with interstate commerce, and therefore government shouldn't be involved
14:24.00Gnarfozo_O
14:24.12Gnarfozwhat kind of connection is there between THOSE two? ;D
14:24.19Bam__you want the church to be involved solely?
14:24.54SaisHmm. Apparently marriage affects the economy.
14:24.57Bam__or whatever religion you are... if any :P
14:25.21kebinusanFrankly the less the government is involved in my day to day life the better
14:25.24kebinusanfor both of us
14:25.52Bam__then you don't want to live in Denmark :D
14:26.06Bam__and certainly not Sweden
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14:26.41knarf-Bam__ whats wrong with Denmark? :/
14:27.15SaisBy inference it has an interfering government
14:27.27Bam__knarf-: oh nothing... just commenting on how much involvment the government has with its people
14:27.37Sais(But doesn't everywhere - that *is* why there's a gov't, isn't it?)
14:27.55knarf-Bam__ maybe I should pay more attention to the media :P
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14:28.31kebinusanYou're better of incorporating yourself if you want rights in the US :-)
14:28.42Bam__knarf-: hehe.. well in Denmark you get the feeling that the government is here to "Take care of you"
14:28.53knarf-Bam__ i'm a Dane myself :P
14:29.00CIA-2303Octane666 * r34716 10SpamMeNot/ (6 files): (log message trimmed)
14:29.00CIA-23SpamMeNot:
14:29.00CIA-23- The FuBarPlugin-2.0 mixin is now always used, even if you don't use FuBar.
14:29.00CIA-23This means that you may have a SpamMeNot icon appear around your minimap. You
14:29.00CIA-23can right click it for a nice Dewdrop menu and choose "Hide" if you don't want
14:29.01CIA-23the extra clutter around your minimap. "/smn hide" will toggle it back.
14:29.02Bam__knarf-: oh lol
14:29.05CIA-23- Corrected embedding of FuBarPlugin-2.0.
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14:29.36CIA-2303Octane666 * r34717 10SpamMeNot/SpamMeNot.toc:
14:29.36CIA-23SpamMeNot:
14:29.36CIA-23- Updated version in .toc file.
14:30.04SaisBam: The UK is heading that way (Nanny State), too (if it hasn't already got there.)
14:30.10Bam__knarf-: we were recent elected as the most happy people on the planet lol
14:30.27Sais'elected'? :D
14:30.46Bam__hmm wrong word... it was a scientific study of some sort
14:31.01knarf-odd :)
14:31.15Sais"Right, let's see....we've got the Japanese, the Americans and the Danes left. Oh, let's have the Danes as the happiest people"
14:31.22Bam__hehe
14:31.39Megalonthe japanese have those tentacle manga
14:31.45Megalonthey must be pretty happy over there
14:31.48Bam__they measured certain parameters... I'm sure you can argue the choice of parameters :P
14:32.06SaisStatistics.
14:32.09Saisnuff said :D
14:32.14Megalon;S
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14:32.54Megalonhow to measure 'happyness'.. that's so subjective
14:33.03Megalonyou can't do that in an objective way i think
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14:33.59Bam__ckknight: didn't see the start of this convo.... have you been asked to marry someone? :P
14:33.59SaisWell, presumably they chose a range of things that contribute towards what people say makes them happy...
14:34.06ckknightno
14:34.06Saislol
14:34.16ckknightBam__: wrote papers for political science
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14:34.23ckknightbut I'm not against marriage and all
14:34.25Bam__ckknight: ah ok
14:34.29ckknightjust government involvement
14:34.54Bam__Sais: an interesting parameter was "How much do you trust your state?"
14:34.58ckknightyou and one or more people can have a spiritual ceremony and pledge love for one another
14:35.09ckknightbut I don't see why a license needs to be involved
14:35.14Bam__Sais: apparently Danes scored highest on that one
14:35.45SaisBam__: How was it scored? Was "Not at all" was  high mark?
14:35.54Saiss/was/a/
14:35.55kebinusanckk, yeah I pretty much feel the government should convert all existing marriages on the books to civil unions and then do away with marriage as being recognized by the state... let the churches handle the spiritual side of things
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14:36.02Bam__Sais: hehe I dont know the details tbh
14:36.04kebinusanbut then that'd never happen
14:36.10Saisoops
14:36.25Ordogis someone using pandora.com in here?
14:36.36heidaroI do from time to time
14:36.56HjalteOrdog, i was... :(
14:37.25heidarolame :(
14:37.26Ordog?
14:37.39Ordogwhy dont you use it anymore?
14:37.47HjalteThey blocked acces from all other countries than USA
14:37.59Ordoghm that shouldnt keep you from listening ^^
14:38.09Bam__but we've had a massive increase in prescription drugs like Prozac and such... so perhaps we are just drugged to be happy :D
14:38.09heidaroI smell proxies
14:38.13Ordoguse a proxy :)
14:38.19HjalteHow can i listen when they decide i'm from Denmark with my IP?
14:38.23Ordoghttp://franticindustries.com/blog/2007/05/03/how-to-access-pandora-from-outside-the-us/
14:38.25Chompersproxys!
14:38.33HjalteAh :)
14:38.51Ordogthats a pretty complete list of possible ways to cloak your ip for that use
14:39.00HjalteNice, will look more at the link when i get back. Thanks!
14:39.48Ordoguhm my question wouldve been, since when the "technical difficulties" were upon pandora -.-
14:43.58SaisI didn't think they were technical but political/monetary.
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14:46.18Ordogwell the message they publish is about technical issues
14:46.45Ordogya maybe they mean "its too easy to cheat our ip filter, we're tinkering at it"
14:46.51Ordog^^
14:47.27SaisOh. All the emails that came out ("send this to your congressman" - what congressman, eh?) were about political/monetary issues
14:47.42Ordogtrue
14:47.52Ordogthe act did pass tho ...
14:47.55__art3misso what do you guys use to backup exchange clients?
14:48.00__art3misi something i can set up a schedule for thats NOT autoarchive and works with exhange
14:48.06__art3miserr need something
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15:05.23[Ammo]haha http://www.thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip252.html
15:05.24[Ammo]excellent
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15:11.55Gnarfozckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/23738 < just got this on joining a BG
15:12.48Sarozblizz bug, fixed in 2.1
15:12.49Saroziirc
15:13.33Gnarfozk
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15:22.32Roartindonnymbia: ping
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15:31.53FISKER_Qy helo thar
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15:41.23kebinusanAnyone ever played with the effort points/gear points system for loot distribution?
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15:53.42CIA-2303roartindon * r34718 10FuBar_WhisperFu/WhisperFu.lua:
15:53.43CIA-23FuBar_WhisperFu:
15:53.43CIA-23- darchon's commit pretty much stopped whisperfu from working at all. Fixed that
15:53.43CIA-23- Started cleaning up my original awful code; stopped half way, but it's better.
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15:58.46HjalteRoartindon, I was thinking, would it be possible to have WhisperFu cooperate with SpamSentry so you wouldnt see the spam messages, if they are blocked by spamsentry?
15:59.32FISKER_Qhaha owned
15:59.43FISKER_Qhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=285262381&sid=1 <-
16:01.33MegalonFISKER_Q: hrhrhr :D
16:01.45Megalonowned by blizzards logging system
16:01.52HjalteFISKER_Q, great!
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16:02.19FrostByghteis there a mod to move the 'target is out of range' 'facing the wrong direction' messages?
16:02.27Megalonnice post by issuntril :D
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16:03.15Bam__hehe
16:03.22wobinGo the panda =)
16:03.26Bam__so that means they log all chat??
16:03.49HjalteDoes anyone here know, if it is somehow possible to make the WWS html pages that you get from your combat log more accurate? My guild would like to capture some of our raids to look at perfomance, but one users combat log is hardly enough.
16:03.53Fisker-of course
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16:04.05Bam__wonder how long they keep it
16:04.09Fisker-It's always been like that
16:04.38Bam__I didnt know they logged things like guild chat
16:04.40wobinwhy wouldn't they?
16:04.53wobinIt's not like we even have the illusion of privacy =)
16:05.05wobinI mean, even here, everything is logged
16:05.10Bam__hey.. I HAD that illusion :P
16:05.10wobin<PROTECTED>
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16:05.23Megalonwell
16:05.41Megalonif some islamistic guild
16:05.51Megalonis planning their terror attacks in the guildchat
16:05.56wobinrofl
16:05.57Bam__I honestly didnt think they logged guild chat... so im just surprised
16:06.02Fisker-It is unlikely they would know
16:06.03Megalonthe US can instantly bring democracy to their country!
16:06.11wobinSomehow I don't see hardened terrorists playing WoW in their downtime
16:06.25Bam__I dont remember planning any terror attacks in guild chat recently though
16:06.27wobinPerhaps that is where they get their pilot training
16:06.37MegalonTBC flying mounts!
16:06.37Megalon:D
16:06.39Fisker-not rly
16:06.55wobinThey just do the bombing runs in Hellfire Penn over and over for practice
16:07.14Megalonhehe
16:07.16Roartindonhjalte: Yeah, I should do that sometime
16:07.20Thraeomg, WoW is the source of violence in schools
16:07.23RoartindonHjalte: The spamsentry thing
16:07.27MegalonTERRORISM AND VIOLENCE
16:07.40Bam__no doubt!
16:07.50Bam__we are all terrorists
16:07.52RoartindonJust that there was a commit sometime recently that stopped WhisperFu from working at all, so I fixed that first
16:07.58wobinI'm sure they encode it though, if they did. You know, "MANY WHELPS" (where whelps equal American PigDogs) "DEAL WITH THEM"
16:08.06SaisBam: Not _recently_, eh? How long ago was it that you did the planning?
16:08.27Bam__Sais: hence the question about how long they log chat :P
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16:08.37Saislol
16:08.56Bam__I could very well have said a few "niceties" about Bush :P
16:09.01SaisFor eternity! Muahaha
16:09.08Bam__lol I bet
16:09.13wobinYou can say nice things about Bush?
16:09.21wobinI didn't think that was feasible
16:09.21SaisWho's Bush? ;P
16:09.26Icerothdoes anyone know how much the improved pvp trinkets are going to cost in 2.1?
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16:09.30Bam__notice the very important quotation marks :P
16:10.57wobinnight all
16:11.15Bam__nn
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16:17.43Ominoushey kael
16:19.33Fisker-Yeah "Kaelten" if that's your real name
16:19.44Fisker-We know it's it Kael'Thas
16:20.34Kaeltenlol
16:20.36*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ
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16:20.51Kaeltenactually I didn't know that about the lore
16:20.59KaeltenI've used this handle for years
16:21.15Fisker-ahuh sure you have
16:22.01Megalonwhat's Fisker then?
16:22.02wobinWell
16:22.09Megalonfucking illidan stormrage killed every sibling?!
16:22.10Megalon:P
16:22.11wobinIn times like these, all one can do is eat and enjoy pie.
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16:26.00kebinusanbleh I hate dkp
16:34.30[dRaCo]hm, pitbull's raid frames are kinda laggy
16:34.53[dRaCo]they sometimes don't recognize group changes
16:35.15[dRaCo]well, they do, but they don't change the text, just the color of the frame
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16:37.02ThraeHeh, my Mom called me earlier today to tell me that Blizzard is linking to a website that has, on its front page, a video with a female nelf naked from the waste down having sex with animals. I think the video was called "Spring Time".
16:37.18Thraes/waste/waist/
16:37.21nevcairiellol
16:37.50SaisWas that because she thought you'd be running off to have a look or because she was disgusted? :D
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16:38.19MikmaThrae: link us!
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16:39.08ThraeSais: I'm 26, she doesn't care. Though my little brother of 9 does frequent the website of course, but she doesn't care about him seeing it, he's well-adjusted and would probably stop watching immediatly.
16:39.38ThraeShe did write to Blizzard as a heads-up for them, I might have done the same thing if I didn't find it so funny :D
16:39.39Antiarc|WorkWhat an interesting sentence to come in to :P
16:39.45Antiarc|WorkWhat now?
16:40.19Thrae<Thrae> Heh, my Mom called me earlier today to tell me that Blizzard is linking to a website that has, on its front page, a video with a female nelf naked from the waist down having sex with animals. I think the video was called "Spring Time".
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16:40.35Antiarc|Work.......
16:40.38MikmaThrae: LINK!
16:40.40SaisI can just imagine someone's mum calling them up to tell them how disgusting it was - and them going off to leer (as I intend to once you give us the link.... :D )
16:40.41Mikma:D
16:41.31Thraehttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/contests/ataris/index.xml <-- its on the front page of worldofwarcraft.com
16:41.38ThraeFor the World of Warcraft Music Video contest
16:42.10ThraeNow if you go to the home page of that site...
16:42.51Thraehttp://www.machinima.com/index.php <-- NSFW ;)
16:44.24Thraehttp://www.machinima.com/films.php?engine=5 <-- click on the "World of Warcraft" link, then you see the video "First of May"
16:45.01ThraeIts thumbnail is a naked human female's ass.
16:45.09kenlyricif spiffy doesn't win, I'll cry.
16:45.20Thraehttp://www.machinima.com/films.php?id=22450
16:45.41kenlyricoh, they pick the song, meh.
16:45.41ThraeIts on the 1st page of the WoW videos. No way kids browsing the site would miss it.
16:46.03SaisI have so far....:|
16:46.07Mikmai find that site super laggy
16:46.16Mikmacan't even see innerspecies erotica :(
16:46.52kenlyrichttp://www.spiffworld.com/
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16:47.02Gngskomg
16:47.05Gngskthis video is hilarious
16:47.18kenlyricwhich one gngsk?
16:47.25Gngskfirst of may
16:47.28kenlyricyes.
16:47.32ThraeSais: I just linked directly to it
16:47.36ThraeSais: http://www.machinima.com/films.php?id=22450
16:47.39kenlyricI think podsafe christmas song was his only dud.
16:47.43LyfI'm getting an error with PitBull on the latest update related to dog-tag. Anyone care to help?
16:48.00ThraeLyf: Submit a bug on trac, then link to the bug
16:48.16SaisHmm. I thought I had copied that link...Oh well.
16:48.27LyfThrae:  sure, could you post a link to the trac?
16:48.45ThraeLyf: www.wowace.com
16:50.13Megalonhm, got an error with Prat an SpemSentry http://ace.pastey.net/23811
16:50.21Fisker-btw pastamancer !!
16:50.33Mikmawtb pastamancer !!
16:50.39Fisker-indeed
16:51.58Megalonwtf!
16:52.03CIA-2303ominous * r34719 10FuBar_PoisonReminderFu/Popup.lua: FuBar_PoisonReminderFu: changed frames
16:52.41LyfThrae:  I should open a ticket, or? Sorry, never used Trac before.
16:53.24kebinusanwow...
16:54.10LyfThrae:  there we go: http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/757
16:54.16ThraeLyf: Yep, open a ticket. Give as much information as possible. Paste the error message.
16:54.28ThraeLyf: Paste the error message from WoW into the ticket, not this channel
16:55.44ThraeLyf: OK, you've done your part. Now roll-back Dog-Tag to a previous version and see if that fixes the problem. The SVN does not always have 100% working versions in /trunk
16:55.55ThraeLyf: You'll have to wait until ckknight fixes the problem.
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16:56.42LyfNo worries, I'm stunned you guys are taking all that time fixing errors all the time anyway. But ehm, how do I roll-back? I'm using WAU.
16:56.46ThraeLyf: If you're using WowAceUpdater, you can right-click on DogTag and select a previous version
16:57.03Mikma_neuron_: add support for LightHeaded and fix the bugs ;)
16:57.25_neuron_Mikma, there is support for lightheaded and I nevar fix bugs!
16:57.29Roartindonlyf: do you have your own custom layout?
16:57.37kenlyriccreepy doll is such a creepy song.
16:57.37Mikma_neuron_: not for clicking coords!
16:58.08LyfThank you, Thrae . Roartindon: no I don't :-)
16:58.13_neuron_you do it then :P
16:58.38RoartindonThat bug is when older versions of Pitbull's layouts try and use newer versions of DogTag
16:58.39Mikma_neuron_: your addon :O
16:59.00_neuron_yeah but I dont have much time for coding atm :/
16:59.22Mikmabut you do have time to irc? bad bad excuse ;)
16:59.26ThraeLyf: I just looked at WAU and it looks like you can't roll back versions in it, you'll have to download something like TortoiseSVN and download the files manually
17:00.03ThraeDammit, I need to go to work
17:00.31Josh_Borkethrae:  WhoMod will take your messages while you're gone
17:01.12MikmaKemayo: same to you :O add support for TomTom coords in QuestsFu
17:01.39Josh_Borkemikma:  why would he add TomTom coords in questfu?  that's a function of lightheaded, isn't it?
17:02.08MikmaJosh_Borke: people don't seem to realize if i say lightheaded coords. that's why i said tomtom instead
17:06.49Fisker-argh
17:06.52Fisker-Suddenly
17:06.56Fisker-BEEPS EVERYWHERE
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17:07.06Mikmasuddenly the dungeon collapses. you die.
17:07.19sbuno, you?
17:07.57NeoTronFirst night on Magtheridon we got him consistently to the first blast wave int he end, with the last add pretty much almost dead (he got a heal off in the last second)
17:08.05NeoTronwithout going full out on buffs
17:10.25CIA-2303gagorian * r34720 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
17:10.25CIA-23DrDamage:
17:10.25CIA-23-Fixed crusade incorrectly applying to healing spells
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17:14.33SarozHow can you tell if a server is a PVP server?
17:15.28KemayoMikma: TomTom?
17:15.55MikmaKemayo: kemayo!
17:16.02Punkie`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7032-TomTom.html
17:16.25Mikmayes. LightHeaded has a support for TomTom. if you click the coords from LightHeaded window it will set an arrow in minimap (using TomTom)
17:16.51Sarozby a command
17:16.51Sarozfgs
17:16.54Saroznot some mod
17:17.31Josh_BorkeSaroz: i haven't heard of anything like that before, but perhaps
17:17.50Josh_BorkeMikma:  i'm saying that how does questfu fit into that equation?
17:18.03MikmaJosh_Borke: it has a detailframe
17:18.09Josh_BorkeMikma:  does questfu create its own window for lightheaded data?
17:18.43Mikmadon't know :) Kemayo does
17:19.01art3misany of you bastards consult for companies with exchange?
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17:22.36art3misIf you can tie your shoes you can play a warlock. On the same note i'd like to say all hunters wear sandals. best sig evah
17:22.51art3mishttps://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=100430525&postId=1004315647&sid=1#0
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17:25.09Ominousis there a template for the the UImap button
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17:38.00HjalteDoes anyone know where the default position for the oRA2 MT frames are? I can't find them :(
17:39.02knarf-hmm does the spellsurge enchant not show any info about gaining the mana? like e.g. bow does in the combat log ?
17:40.11MikmaHjalte: yes
17:40.31HjalteMikma, could you please tell me where to look then?
17:40.33Roartindonknarf-: It should show
17:40.49MikmaHjalte: start looking from your screen first
17:41.38knarf-Roartindon could simpelcombatlog have anything to do with it ?
17:41.54knarf-i'm not seeing it in mikes battle text either :<
17:42.11Roartindonhmm.. maybe; I don't use it, I'm pretty sure I've seen it in EavesDrop
17:43.19knarf-hmmm
17:43.20knarf-Annoying
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17:45.48HjalteI found my ora2 MT frames - but even though i clared my saved variables, the anchor is still outside my screen. How can i move it then?
17:46.26HjalteDon't ask me how i got it there..
17:47.51kees-hm, is it possible for an addon to register(?) a spell in the spellbook so a user can simply drag it to his actionbars?
17:48.12chutwigHjalte: layout-cache.txt
17:48.28chutwigi think
17:48.50chutwigoh, no
17:49.01chutwigmy oRA position stuff is all in the SV file
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17:58.26knarf-Anyone in here uses mike scroling battletext and / or simpeltcombatlog, and know anything about Spellsurge? :S
18:01.01KarlThePaganknarf-, have you tried /msbt search
18:01.24knarf-KarlThePagan well I can see I gain spellsurge it is just the effect of spellsurge I can't see
18:01.47KarlThePaganyou mean like the buff?
18:02.05knarf-the buff grants you x mana pr x second
18:02.11knarf-for an amount of time
18:02.19KarlThePaganah so you don't see the +50 mana ticks?
18:02.23knarf-ye
18:02.25CIA-2303ulic * r34721 10LittleWigs/ (9 files in 4 dirs):
18:02.25CIA-23LittleWigs:
18:02.25CIA-23- Added: CFR\Hydromancer Thespia, TK\Dalliah the Doomsayer
18:02.25CIA-23- Bugfix: Auch\Pandemonius, TK\Mechano-Lord Capacitus
18:02.25CIA-23- Tweak: CFR\Mekgineer Steamrigger
18:02.53Kody-It's being added to the combat log in 2.1
18:02.59Kody-It's also changed to 10 per sec for 10 secs
18:03.05KarlThePaganthat would explain it
18:03.21knarf-Kody- mkay
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18:04.07CIA-2303ominous * r34722 10PoisonMenu/Core.lua: PoisonMenu: buttons are now nicer and simple tooltip option
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18:04.38knarf-Kody- thanks for the info :D
18:06.29HjalteKody, so it had its effect doubled or?
18:06.55Kody-Still the same amount of total regen
18:07.17Hjalte10*10 = 100 is more thna 50, no?
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18:08.07NeoTronAm I correct in assuming that you should let Magtheridon start his blast nova channel before interrupting?
18:08.15NeoTron(or you just delay it rather than stop it)
18:09.02kenlyricnow, to find someone who can do spellsurge.
18:09.12kenlyricoh, and to get an epic weapon to waste an enchant like that on.
18:10.03CIA-2303rabbit * r34723 10Surfaces/ (Images/Aluminium.tga Surfaces.lua): Surfaces: Aluminium statusbar texture by Wazom.
18:10.13CIA-2303rabbit * r34724 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua statusbar/Aluminium.tga): SharedMedia: Aluminium statusbar texture by Wazom.
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18:17.18Funkeh`hi all
18:17.35vhaarrhey ho
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18:19.59CIA-2303saroz * r34725 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Move spell scanning up before event registration.
18:20.19FtH|Daemonahrmmm
18:20.26FtH|Daemonamaybe a stupid question
18:20.36FtH|Daemonabut is it possible to show windfury as center icon buff in grid?
18:20.37SarozIM SOOOOOOOO considering making a BigWigs_MagtheridonAssist
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18:21.19nevcairielfor what?
18:22.04vhaarrI guess it would just spam everyone with whispers saying "don't forget to click the cube"
18:22.18Gngskicons over the 5?
18:22.24Sarozyes
18:22.28Gngsklike the loetheb module
18:22.30Sarozyes
18:22.37Sarozand "Channeler (x) down"
18:22.59Sarozcause people want me to yell when one dies *sigh*
18:23.44nevcairieluse teamspeak ?
18:23.49nevcairielor vent
18:25.02kebinusantheres an  addon on ej's site sorta like that
18:25.13kebinusansomeone posted it on their forums
18:25.27kebinusanputs icons over peoples heads allows you to specify two cube teams
18:26.13kebinusanI think it was in the 'Why cant my guild kill magtheridon' thread on their public forms
18:26.36Sarozyea I know
18:26.37Sarozusing it
18:26.40FtH|Daemonai dont get how you can fail on magtheridon if you have the dps and the heal :X
18:26.40Fisker-vhaarr
18:26.42Sarozbut code gives me chills :p
18:27.12Fisker-SharedMedia doesn't handle anything related to playback right vhaarr?
18:27.16Sarozwell, our dps slacks, what to say
18:27.31vhaarrFisker-: It handles sounds.
18:27.36vhaarrFisker-: not sure what you mean
18:27.42nevcairielsharedmedia only cares about providing the data, not actually playing it.
18:27.44AenslaedFtH|Daemona: you also need 3 warlocks for the most part
18:27.48Fisker-Because sometimes i get a LOAD of beeps
18:27.54Fisker-and it's not bugsack
18:28.00FtH|Daemonapfff
18:28.03vhaarrFisker-: could be the proximity module in bw?
18:28.05FtH|Daemona2 warlocks 2 hunter is enough :D
18:28.09kebinusanphase 1 of that fight is just silly honestly, people practically can be killed faster than a banish
18:28.15Fisker-nope happens at random times
18:28.23Fisker-But i think it's either sharedmedia or prat
18:28.38AenslaedFtH|Daemona: thats 4 bodies devoted to cc over 3. What a waste!
18:28.42vhaarrsharedmedia doesn't play stuff by itself, it just registers media with SML
18:28.47Fisker-alright
18:28.49vhaarrand it has no sounds currently
18:28.51Fisker-gonna bug sylvanaar then
18:28.56vhaarrit's like Surfaces for SurfaceLib
18:29.00Fisker-ok
18:29.01SarozFtH|Daemona, psssh
18:29.12Fisker-thanks anyways
18:29.50FtH|Daemonasorry Saroz for saying the H-Word ;)
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18:30.03kebinusanI just hate the boom oneshot factor of the infernos
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18:30.24FtH|Daemonauhm just keep the tanks + healers together... fear is fun :)
18:32.14kebinusani wish I could get a group of people that actually like doing raid content instead of, show up for karazhan and gruul and be somewhat mysteriously gone on magtheridon nights
18:32.34nevcairielheh
18:32.39Funkeh`its when you need a mod to tell epople what to do that you wonder how they cross the street every day
18:32.43CIA-2303cryect * r34726 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: BigBrother - Fixed Misdirection reporting so it has your name if you are targeted instead of 103
18:32.58SarozCryect, that mod does too much
18:33.05Sarozgive flask watch, rest is meh
18:33.14CryectHaha
18:33.17kebinusanFunkeh`: being a raid lead is like being a 5th grade teacher, you have about 24 kids goofing off not paying attention and you're trying to explain what they need to do
18:33.24CryectMost people prefer the other stuff being with it actually
18:33.34nevcairielone of our raidleaders had that mod
18:33.39nevcairieland i liked what he said about it
18:33.49kebinusanwhat mod? bigbrother?
18:33.51Sarozbut.. sheep watch?
18:33.52CryectOf anything few people want a few more features, I've just been kinda busy
18:33.52Sarozwhy?
18:34.02Sarozcan you toggle it?
18:34.04CryectBecause you want to know who breaks sheeps?
18:34.08Funkeh`kebinusan: yeah, being a raid leader with several retards myself
18:34.16Funkeh`kebinusan: but rambling on vent usually fixes that
18:34.17Cryectif you've done SSC or TK
18:34.24Cryectyou want to know who's breaking your sheeps
18:34.25Cryect:-p
18:34.29SarozI AM WIPING ON MAGTHERIDON
18:34.34Cryecthaha
18:34.36Sarozfucking crapshit of a boss
18:34.40Funkeh`im on astromancer atm yelling at mages to resheep the trash
18:34.57Funkeh`'good mage' 'yes' 'resheep before it breaks'
18:35.15CryectBut yes Saroz you can toggle it
18:35.16kebinusanone of the things that I used honestly was wow web stats, its useful to see the warlock who during phase 1 magtheridon was at the top of the damage meter.. clearly they were not ccing
18:35.19Saroznice ince
18:35.29CryectCan't toggle Misdirection reporting I better add that
18:35.30Sarozour dps sucks
18:35.38Saroz3 adds down before release, 2 adds wont die after that
18:35.39Sarozhihi
18:36.21kebinusan3 adds by release isnt so bad
18:36.30Sarozit is when the rest wont die
18:36.40kebinusantell your rogues to l2kick
18:36.42Cryect3 adds yeah isn't that bad if...
18:36.44Cryectyou have no one dead
18:36.47Cryectwhen he is released
18:36.54SarozI don't really
18:37.11CryectHaving trouble with interrupting heals then?
18:37.23Sarozaye and shadowbolts
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18:37.32Saroz2.1, hi2u
18:37.32CryectI guess wait till 2.1, which should be out next week (well unless they delay it more)
18:37.37Saroz:p
18:37.39beerkeshould be fairly easy
18:37.42kebinusanmind numbing and curse of tounges stack, it can be somewhat helpful to make sure both are being kept up on the last two adds especially
18:37.43Funkeh`i added misdirect into CommonAuras and its pwns j00 Cryect
18:37.44Arrowmastertheyll delay it more
18:37.44Saroz1 shot!
18:37.51CryectShadowbolts we don't bother on the last 1 or 2
18:37.53beerkekick bolts above 50%, kick mending below 50%
18:37.58beerkethat is for rogues
18:38.05kebinusanFunkeh`: you did eh <3
18:38.09beerketank just interrupts volley
18:38.25kebinusanboth are shadow school so kicking either should be fine
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18:38.27CryectHaha Funkeh`, yeah well its something I added in what a few seconds because i was irritated with not knowing who was being misdirected
18:38.38beerkeuse mind-numbling posoin and CoT
18:38.39Sarozget sRaidFrames
18:38.40Sarozsolved
18:38.40CryectHunter claims he did it right but sure didn't look like what occured was right :-p
18:38.50Sarozwe are beerke :p
18:38.59Sarozjust chaotic with people having to click and shit
18:39.00CryectsRaidFrames won't help after the fact when you are all dead
18:39.02beerkeain't kick an interrupt and shield bash blocks out the whole school for a few sec
18:39.03Funkeh`^^
18:39.27CryectI need a message in my chat frame that I can read after it happens :-p
18:39.29nevcairielkick does that too
18:39.44Cryectyeah all interrupts do that
18:39.48Cryecttime varies though
18:39.57nevcairielkick is 10s, shield bash only 5 or?
18:39.58beerkeMajor problem for us was that everyone interruptedf the fist cast
18:40.00Cryectlike earthshock is 2 seconds while counterspell is like 8 seconds
18:40.07beerkethen there was no one to interrupt the second :P
18:40.15nevcairielhehe
18:40.16Punkie`kick is 5 sec
18:40.17Cryectthere is some addons for tracking interrupt cooldowns
18:40.19Punkie`6 sec CD
18:41.13Cryecteh I thought kick was 10 second CD?
18:41.22beerkeand a volelyg etting through ain't that bad, but a mending is :P
18:41.37beerkepfft at my typing again
18:42.31beerkealso opening the fight on adds with an aimed shot misdirect on tank boosts dps
18:43.15beerkeand not overaggroing tank at add
18:45.19kebinusanwe've been playing with tanking the first two together so rogues can go nuts with bf/ar/etc
18:45.47beerkenever had the need to tank the first 2 together
18:46.01Cryectwell if you tank the first 2 together you can have all 5 down before he's up
18:46.10beerkeonly leadts to more mendings to interrupt
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18:46.23CryectMendings are easy to interrupt when none are dead
18:46.27Chomperstalking about romulo?
18:46.33Cryectso you have warriors tank both them
18:46.34ZealotOnAStickno, Magtheridon.
18:46.37Chompersoh
18:46.47Chompersbit further on than me
18:46.48beerkeMendings are easy ton interrupt if you have people that can do that :P
18:47.01CryectWhatever we normally have 3 or 4 druids tanking
18:47.20CryectI wish we had a melee interrupt :-p
18:47.51ZealotOnAStickI'd tell you how we do it . . . but http://files.filefront.com/magswmv/;7430741;/fileinfo.html would work better.  Except Romm was a twit and didn't compress it for shit, so it's huge.
18:48.14CryectHeh whatever I'm sure Saroz has read it all by now
18:48.20Sarozoh yes
18:48.25Saroznow how do I get 24 people to l2p
18:48.37Sarozanyone got a magic sentence for that?
18:48.38Chompersso when did you go off and attempt mag ?
18:48.53Sarozhrrrm 2 weeks ago me thinks
18:49.03Chomperswhat stage would a group have to be at to have a serious chance of taking him down
18:49.21Sarozafter first banish
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18:49.22Sarozbut meeeeh
18:49.27Saroz*bangs head at table*
18:49.43ZealotOnAStickGruul on farm Status would be about right.
18:49.56ZealotOnAStickMagtheridon is easy once you get past phase 1.
18:50.06ChompersBAH
18:50.08beerkeafter taking adds down, and raid is at full hp, you should focus on gettign clicking in order, if it is not yet
18:50.11Chompersthats months away
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18:50.29beerkeand then time at 30% Mag HP and you should be near to a kill
18:50.36kebinusanIts easy to tell when content is on farm status, people start showing up for raids
18:50.44Chomperssaroz, boost me plix
18:50.48Sarozlolol
18:50.53Chompersgive me all your phat lewtz
18:50.58Sarozneed T4 chest
18:50.59Sarozfgs
18:51.09ZealotOnAStickthey reduced the mind exhaustion duration so it only takes 10 people to manage all the cubes . . . with it being a smart call to have a third set of five as oh-shit backups.
18:51.30sedatedChipmunkckknight: might want to add Creature/Epicdruidflightalliance/epicdruidflightalliance.m2 and Creature/Epicdruidflighthorde/epicdruidflighthorde.m2 to the druid flight models
18:51.48ckknightwill do
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18:52.40kees-/cheer - my first addons works
18:53.22ckknightgrats, kees-
18:53.42kees-no more endless prospecing for me
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18:53.51kees-*Prospecting
18:53.57kebinusanWe pretty consistently get 3 down before mag breaks free w/o pots but are having trouble with doing so with everyone alive
18:54.01zackees-: /cast Prospecting /use Adamantite Ore?
18:54.04Chompersthats a really good song on that mag video
18:54.20kebinusanso I think we're just going to start chewing consumables
18:54.20kees-zac> something like that, but with aotolooting the damn shit
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18:54.28kees-and keeping track of what gems i get
18:54.33zacthat's nice. i open the escape screen to make it close the window right away
18:54.39kees-ye
18:54.44kees-it closes my bags too :P
18:54.47zacsince the auto loot option only works on the first prospect for some reason
18:54.59kees-almost :P first prospect after you opened a mail
18:55.05kees-dont ask why
18:55.46Cryect<kebinusan> We pretty consistently get 3 down before mag breaks free w/o pots but are having trouble with doing so with everyone alive
18:55.49Cryectwhats killing people?
18:55.53Cryectinfernals or shadow bolts?
18:56.17kebinusanlittle of both I think, mostly infernals before they can be cc'd or a combo of a shadowbolt volley/infernal
18:56.39CryectInfernals try having 6 tanks and as adds are killed those tanks goto pick up infernals
18:57.12CryectWarriors are best for that
18:57.21Cryectso better to front load your warriors for the first few adds
18:57.34kebinusanyeah thats part of the issue, most of the time we have not had enough tanks, normally we've had 4 or 4 and a feral druid, so there havent exactly been any free to run around and hamstring/etc at the start
18:57.43gnorlishspeeding up killing of summoners has the advantage of there being less infernals running around
18:57.56CryectHeh well we do Magtheridon with 2 warriors and 3 or 4 feral druids
18:58.34kees-4 warriors, 3 warlocks here, works fine :o
18:58.38kebinusangnorlish: yeah hence why I think we'll be trying to go the consumable route to kill stuff before the infernals get to be too much.. I dunno I think our priests are dumb
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18:59.03CryectWhy your priests aren't shadow?
18:59.11kees-ye, get paladins for healing
18:59.15kebinusanheh neg, one shadow priest
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18:59.26kebinusan3 holy, 3 holy paladins, 2 druids
18:59.33CryectPriests die so easily on that fight
18:59.33kebinusanif that
18:59.40kees-get 2 holy, 2 shadow, 4 pally, forget the rest ;P
18:59.57Cryect2 shamans are good
18:59.58gnorlish3 shaman = 2 mins of bloodlust/heroism for one party
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19:00.01kees-ye, heroism
19:00.25Cryecthard finding dependable shamans though
19:00.37Cryectalliance that is
19:01.11kees-prolly hard to find good paladins on horde too
19:01.38Cryectyeah
19:01.44gnorlish2 of our warriors rerolled pally
19:01.50kebinusanyeah, our biggest problem is just getting people to logon for magtheridon nights
19:01.53Cryectsince its people who rerolled and in general rerolled because of not being happy with something
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19:02.26kees-do the old molten core tactic
19:02.44CryectSay you are going somewhere then go elsewhere? :-p
19:02.44kees-say you are going molten core, but suddenly you go bwl!
19:02.47kees-aye :P
19:02.53kebinusanheh last week I told everyone we were raiding gruul, apparently people couldnt remember we'd killed him already
19:03.01kees-hehe
19:03.15Cryectalright if your raid can't remember that no wonder you are having issues
19:03.33kebinusanheh, it was funny you see like 10 people up at gruuls lair
19:03.44kees-we killed gruul pre nerf, we were quite pissed after that nerf at how easy he was :/
19:04.01kebinusanour first kill was bugged
19:04.13kebinusanhe didnt ground slam or reverb at all
19:04.15CryectOh come on its so fun being able to kill him after the nerf with 1 shatter if the shatter timers are in your favor!
19:04.51kees-ye, but we got ppl slacking now :P
19:05.11kees-like, trying to hug the MT at shatters and giving out gold for the highest hit
19:05.28CryectSounds like Baron Geddon!
19:05.39kees-hehe :P
19:05.45kebinusanour feral druid got a 9k shatter on me
19:05.46kees-or vael at 1% ;)
19:05.59kebinusanwasnt amused
19:06.03Cryectmore like vael at 0%
19:06.07Cryectand being a resser
19:06.12Cryectinstacast ressing!
19:06.18kees-hehe
19:06.31kebinusanheh, I always loved running into vael with BA as everyone was trying to see what the loot was
19:06.35kebinusanboom, dead raid
19:06.50kees-or nefarian < 20% and priest call.. a lot of ppl died in those days :P
19:07.18kebinusanone of our prot warriors on aran loves to save shield wall for an arcane explosion and just stay in listening to everyone yell at him to gtfo
19:07.37kees-bubble \o/
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19:15.00Fisker-y helo thar
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19:15.14ckknighthey Fisker-
19:16.13SarozCryect, toggle for Misdirect plx
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19:18.17evlPppft
19:18.19Cryectoh I should say its not setup to save the toggling! I knew there was something wrong with it
19:18.27Saroz...
19:18.28CryectHeh I better add that as well
19:18.29evlI had my patch ready, now my fucking graphics board is going to hell :P
19:18.31Sarozthere is no toggle!
19:18.59Cryectshould be /bb polymoprh
19:19.38kergothfubar_classtimerfu has some really odd bugs
19:21.31kenlyricI once got a dragon breath during an AE. Nearly almost made it out, too.
19:21.33Sarozsome mods should just never be fubar mods
19:21.42kergothout of nowhere i'll end up with like 4 slice and dice timers
19:21.45kergothSaroz: agreed
19:21.54kergothbut its still a quite nice addon functionality wise
19:21.55Saroztoo easy :)
19:21.57kenlyricall mods should have fubar options.
19:22.00kergothif only itd stop bugging
19:22.22kebinusankenlyric: nah thats what waterfall is for
19:22.29kebinusanerr niagra or w/e
19:22.30kenlyricI hate mods where I gotta type like a chump just to see some options.
19:22.36Sarozindeed
19:22.40kergothi dont like addons that have fubar plugins -only for options-
19:22.42SarozBUT! some mods should just never be fubar mods
19:22.51kergothif it has something to actually -display- there, or interact with to perform some function
19:22.53kergoththats something else
19:22.56kergothbut not just options.
19:23.03kenlyricyou != me
19:23.21kergothits a waste of fubar space. if you dont reconfigure the addon 5 times a day, it shouldnt take up bar space
19:23.23kergothjust silly
19:23.25kergothuse niagara
19:23.39kenlyricdon't I have to type?
19:23.42Sarozwell
19:23.44kergothuh?
19:23.49Sarozyou dont have to be a fubar mod, to have fubar options
19:23.51kenlyricand remember the addon commands?
19:23.53kergothniagara is a graphical ace2 addon configuration tool
19:23.58kergothso no
19:24.00kenlyrichow do i active it?
19:24.04kergothyou click its fubar button
19:24.07sedatedChipmunkaceconsole ftw
19:24.08kenlyricfubar plugin? ;)
19:24.08Cryectthe better question who wants a bar somewhere on their screen like fubar :-p
19:24.10kergoththen you click on the addon you want to configure
19:24.17kergothyes, niagara has a fubar plugin
19:24.19kenlyricwell, that would work to.
19:24.34Chompershow'd the mag attempt go Saroz?
19:24.47Sarozhad everyone pop flasks.. EVERYONE.. and now people SUCK SO BAD
19:24.52kenlyricI hate mods that have a fubar plugin you can't make go away.
19:24.54Sarozeveryone dies from infernals
19:24.55Sarozgg
19:24.58kergothkenlyric: ugh, no kidding
19:25.12kenlyricwhy is there a disable option in fubar, but no hide?
19:25.58KarlThePaganinfernals are so random...
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19:26.10sedatedChipmunkkenlyric: there is; you just have to add it
19:26.10Sarozfuck blizz for prince fight
19:26.12Cryectalright new version to make you happy Saroz
19:26.13KarlThePaganwe had one where the infernals perfectly fucked the whole raid into a corner
19:26.16Saroz:p
19:26.20Sarozwell
19:26.20KarlThePaganand the next attempt they were all on the back wall
19:26.22Sarozthis is magtheridon
19:26.23Saroznot prince
19:26.23evlprince is... AAAAAAAAERGH
19:26.26KarlThePaganoic
19:26.27KarlThePaganhaha
19:26.32Sarozbut prince is IUFYT(/¤Y=#&/¤¤=#"&/¤
19:26.33SarozFU TIGOLE
19:26.36KarlThePaganhaha
19:26.45Sarozretarded shit
19:26.52CIA-2303cryect * r34731 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua BigBrother.toc): BigBrother - Adds misdirect toggling as well as actual saving of toggling state of polymorph/misdirect
19:26.56Sarozand shade is getting nerfed
19:26.57Saroz<3
19:27.09KarlThePaganoh lol wut?
19:27.14Sarozye
19:27.14Cryectwhats wrong with prince?
19:27.26KarlThePaganwe just got shade down to a science
19:27.29CIA-2303ckknight * r34732 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove GetClassColor function.
19:27.30Killmorenothing beat a spout-whirl (at the same time) on lurker below
19:27.48CryectSpout is great when it bugs out!
19:28.02Sarozprince  = luck
19:28.02Cryectgreat fun having your entire raid spread through out the room
19:28.03KarlThePaganprince is random enough that it can eliminate any skill advantage you have
19:28.16KarlThePaganone day you can get by with 6k dps
19:28.20CryectSo much luck I don't remember last time wiped to it
19:28.24KillmoreCryect: look at your pm plz :P
19:28.30KarlThePaganthe next day you need 12k dps to get him before the infernals kills you
19:29.21KarlThePaganso yea Cryect once you get enough gear it becomes a nonfactor :P
19:29.33CryectKillmore: I didn't get a PM I'm guessing your nick isn't registered with nickserv (I really need to do that as well)
19:29.41Cryectyeah I also haven't done Karazhan in like a month :-p
19:31.08KarlThePaganyea we're up to 3 full clears finally... casual guild is fine by me
19:31.08Killmorehmm ok
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19:42.17CIA-23DogTag-1.0 - remove function FigureDruidForm, put it inline in the tag.
19:42.17CIA-23- cache the value of UNKNOWN in some tags
19:42.17CIA-23- remove the capability of having L in tags/modifiers.
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19:48.27SarozCryect, bigger buff window
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19:50.49Sarozor even better
19:50.56Sarozdraggable in size
19:53.38Sarozlike damagemeters
19:53.39Sarozwould pwn
19:54.38CryectYeah the buff window needs to be customizable
19:54.59Saroz<3
19:55.03SarozALMOST have room for it
19:56.05CryectI need to redo the buff window stuff for consumables for 2.1
19:56.23Sarozye
19:56.29Cryectbut that just requires some changing of the datatable it uses easy stuff
19:56.59Sarozwell, Im sure ace will have a lib of guardian elixirs etc
19:57.18Cryectyeah I should be using the PeriodLibraries for that info
19:57.22Sarozyup
19:57.26Chompersis there an addon that alerts you when someone dispells a dreamless sleep pot?
19:57.29Cryectat the moment its hardcoded into a table in the BuffWindow.lua
19:57.34Sarozyea I noticed :p
19:57.35Chompersbecause i'd love to know who keeps doing it
19:57.39Cryectthere could be
19:57.53Sarozonly tards do that
19:57.58Chompersyup
19:58.01CryectWhenever a dispell occurs it says who dispells whom and what they dispelled
19:58.08Chompersand i want to shout at them over vent
19:58.17Saroztoo much spam
19:58.21Filipekanybody else have their SorrenTimers stopped working?
19:58.52Filipekdunno what happened even if I dont consider myself as a addon noob :-(
19:59.14Cryectoh Saroz I remember why I didn't use Periodic Table now
19:59.28Cryectbecause the consumable name often isn't the buff name >_>
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19:59.38Saroztrue true
19:59.49Sarozsure that isnt stored?
19:59.52Ordogany native english speakers around? ^^
19:59.53Sarozit stores the freaking texture
20:00.09Ordogis this proper english: "a list of league abbrevations that gamenames the user is allowed to add coverage for start with."
20:00.12CryectMaybe will have to check don't think it did
20:00.19Ordogsounds weird
20:00.32nevcairieldont all food buffs have that cheese icon?
20:00.43CryectPretty sure at least most do
20:00.46theoddone33I don't think that's proper english
20:00.58CryectI don't think some of the special season ones do
20:01.19Cryectbwah don't have the consumable unencoded file downloaded :-p
20:04.25CryectYeah periodic table just stores the itemid's and you can't get the spells an item triggers except via looking at the WDB file and then referencing spell.dbc
20:04.47Sarozor wowhead.com
20:05.16Cryectof course but thats just a processed DBC file :-p
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20:05.52Sarozbtw
20:05.58Sarozadepts a pala elixir
20:06.14Sarozah there is shows
20:06.16Saroznm
20:09.14Cryectit shows and overwrites healing power you can see in the buff table though thats not strictly true since its possible to get both on
20:09.23Cryectif you use healing power first then adept's
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20:11.51CryectAlso there is a slight issue with the way it autorefreshes
20:12.39Cryectthe buff that triggers an autorefresh won't be on the list since the server message that adds the aura to the lists that can be tracked is delayed after the combat log message >_>
20:13.11Chosiweird sentence
20:13.56Chosinot to be handled when drunk
20:15.12SarozFIX
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20:19.29CryectPfft would require me to add something to delay, heh though is there a wowace library like chrono where you can easily delay a function?
20:20.44nymbiaAceEvent
20:21.31Cryectoh didn't see you could schedule events with it (didn't think of looking there)
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20:24.10theoddone33just died during a loading screen, heh
20:24.48theoddone33or whatever it was called
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20:31.21CIA-2303cryect * r34735 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua BuffWindow.lua): BigBrother - More properly handles autorefreshing of the buff window now detecting buff fading/dispelling and better tracking for buff application
20:33.05Fisker-what's bigbrother? :o
20:33.25Fisker-theoddone33 it is applied per default now
20:33.26ChompersChecks Raid Buffs/Flasks & Alerts who breaks Polymorphs (Cryect)
20:33.40theoddone33I must have too many mods then
20:33.47theoddone33because my loading screens take forever
20:33.50vhaarrCryect: X-Credits: Rabbit :P
20:34.12Sarozuhm Cryect
20:34.20Sarozregister UNIT_AURA and update on that
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20:34.55Cryecthmm now thats an idea >_>
20:35.10Cryecthaha I will fix that up later need to do some stuff
20:35.16pastamancerit's already using SEEA, use the SEEA events
20:35.36Cryectwhen I was implementing it originally was just uing parserlib for something so was thinking in that mindset
20:35.56vhaarrCryect: oh, and credit pastamancer as well
20:36.17Cryectoh was he the one who suggested things here to you? sure
20:36.30Sarozcredit me aswell
20:36.30Sarozplx
20:36.35vhaarrCryect: wut?
20:36.39SarozDunno why, just do it
20:36.47Cryecthaha when I was asking you for help I don't know :-p
20:37.07vhaarrCryect: I redid your whole buff scanning routine in #nihilum.wow
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20:37.26vhaarrCryect: and pastamancer figured out that the buff names and flask names don't match
20:37.31Cryectk so what am I crediting pastamancer for okay
20:37.38Cryectalright thats what I wanted to know thanks :)
20:38.41HjalteI need to cut a txt file in two. Any ideas on how that can be done?
20:38.46pastamanceroh, is this what we were talking about before vhaarr?
20:38.52Cryectsplit?
20:39.15vhaarrpastamancer: yeah
20:39.22vhaarrpastamancer: at that time, the addon was not on the svn
20:39.24HjalteCryect, well, i need to split it at a certain point in it, do you know how i do that?
20:39.31CryectHjalte: I mean split
20:39.45Cryectits one of the programs in *nix
20:39.59Cryectif you have cygwin installed you can use it via that
20:41.07HjalteI use windows :( And I havent got any fancy programs, only like WinMerge and then the simple microsoft text editors
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20:42.32nevcairielckknight: PitBull is not showing me any debuffs right now :o
20:43.45pastamancerCryect: why are you using parserlib to catch misdirect?
20:44.31CryectOh yeah there is split for DOS as well
20:44.39nevcairielwho broke the aura module in pitbull?
20:44.40Cryectpastamancer: Because I copy and pasted my Polymorph code
20:44.46Fisker-omg pastamancer
20:44.47Fisker-i need you
20:45.07pastamanceromg Fisker- hold me
20:45.15Fisker-i'm gonna love you pastamancer
20:45.24Cryectbasically was in the middle of a raid and was irritated at some hunter so did that in a hurry yeah I shoudl use specialevents
20:45.38Fisker-anyways since you are pew pew grid dev i was wondering
20:45.39Cryectdoesn't really matter too much though
20:45.43Fisker-What is "Healer: First Priority"?
20:45.47Fisker-And second priority
20:46.00pastamancerFisker-: I have no idea
20:46.07kebinusanhmm CBRipoff doesnt stop the casting bar when your spell cast is interrupted
20:46.08Fisker-wtfudge!
20:46.18Fisker-but you are the one
20:46.20pastamancerI didn't write that GridStatusHealer or whatever it is
20:46.32Fisker-ah
20:46.35Fisker-so that's adding it
20:46.38SarozI did
20:46.39pastamancerI'll bet it's the first and second people on the "emergency list"
20:46.40Saroz*whistle*
20:46.49Cryecthaha
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20:48.13ulicare there any good wiki pages or something, that I could point folks at to help with translations?
20:48.16Fisker-weird
20:48.24Fisker-all it adds here are layouts
20:48.27ulicclear
20:48.44pastamancerFisker-: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua
20:48.51Fisker-^^
20:49.01Fisker-I use the 25 people + tanks layout anyways
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20:50.17kenlyricI use it, but it fails.
20:50.26kenlyricsince it thinks all warriors are tanks and only warriors are tanks.
20:50.36CIA-2303toadkiller * r34736 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarItemList.lua AutoBarProfile.lua ChangeList.lua):
20:50.36CIA-23AutoBar:
20:50.36CIA-23-- Cleared slot 6: protection potions. They are all in the buff slot already.
20:50.36CIA-23-- Fix Shadow Power cut & paste error
20:50.39Cryectyeah I knew there was something wrong with that and thats the issue
20:50.41kenlyriceven if those tanks are outside of the instance :)
20:51.00Cryectit be better if it grabbed tanks from ora though that doesn't mean much either
20:51.07pastamanceryeah, someone needs to write a smart namelist-based layout
20:51.20kenlyricdoesn't blizzard itself let you set tanks now?
20:51.30kenlyricblizzard itself?
20:51.30Cryectnot that I know of? or is this in 2.1?
20:51.34pastamancerkinda
20:51.36kenlyricjesus, english much.
20:51.46pastamanceryou can set one MT/MA right now, 2.1 will let you have multiple
20:51.48kenlyricerrr, talking about me, not anyone else.
20:51.53kenlyricah, ok.
20:54.45pastamancerkenlyric: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=67898311&postId=677318639&sid=1#9
20:57.17Kaeltenanyone who's better at javascript than I tell me why line 18 would error http://ace.pastey.net/23987?
20:57.26Fisker-yeah kenlyric that is definately the problem
20:57.36Fisker-Pretty annoying when you have no warrior tank in the group :P
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20:57.54Fisker-I guess Grid will take a leap in 2.1 regarding that though
20:57.58Fisker-or else pastamancer...
20:58.13nevcairielKaelten: typo in func header
20:58.16nevcairielfunction kBoxObject(presist) {
20:58.19nevcairiel"presist"
20:58.20Fisker-Gonna sleep now though so see you :o
20:58.23Fisker-nice
20:58.42Kaeltenoh gods, thanks nev
20:58.51KaeltenI've been staring at that typo in the fast
21:05.04LaricHmm getting this error when using tekSupport "[2007/05/07 22:53:56-871-x9]: AceEvent-2.0-33858 (Ace2):438: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'mem' (a nil value)"
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21:07.53Laricis there any currently working tekSupport?
21:08.18Matrix110go on ptr and use some random addon for it
21:08.32Matrix110there are quite some already
21:08.34vhaarrLaric: sounds like you've enabled AceEvent debugging
21:08.58LaricI havent.. could be that teksupport does it by itself
21:09.31Laricwas just trying to figure out what was eating my memory like a hog while in kara
21:09.57vhaarrLaric: log in 2.1 and kill some mobs, you'll see
21:10.08vhaarrwith fubar_performancefu and CPU profiling enabled
21:10.16Laric:P
21:10.35LaricI know the nice profiling support that is coming in 2.1 is gonna be helpful
21:10.49Laricanyone heard anything on when it will go live?
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21:18.15nevcairielckknight: whatever you did to debuff filtering, it breaks showing debuffs completly
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21:40.06ckknightnevcairiel: the system changed dramatically
21:40.14ckknightnevcairiel: what is the issue you're having?
21:40.21nevcairielckknight: its not showing ANY debuff
21:40.30nevcairielon friendly targets
21:40.34nevcairielits showing them for enemys
21:41.22nevcairielwe wiped in shadowlabs because of that :o
21:41.23ckknightwhat class are you?
21:41.27nevcairieldruid
21:41.39ckknightokay
21:41.52nevcairielno filter active what so ever
21:41.55ckknightopen Aura.lua, check around line 350
21:42.02ckknightsee if you can see anything
21:42.29nevcairielheh
21:42.29nevcairielfound it
21:42.36nevcairiellocal raidFilter = db.filter and 1 or 0
21:42.42nevcairielif texture and raidFilter then
21:43.54nevcairielyay its back
21:44.13ckknightah
21:44.14CIA-2303nevcairiel * r34737 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua:
21:44.14CIA-23PitBull
21:44.14CIA-23- Aura: fix filtering
21:45.01ckknightbtw, nevcairiel, I was thinking of making the filtering more complex
21:45.53ckknightallow the user to specify what extra debuffs they want to see and such
21:46.15nevcairieli dunno, i like seeing everything
21:46.23nevcairielso as long as i can turn it off
21:46.25ckknightcurrently it's everything you can dispel plus weakened spirit for priests
21:46.26nevcairielwhat do i care :D
21:46.48GagorianI use debuff filter personally. You can add to a list everything you want to see
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21:47.06GagorianMakes it a lot easier to check for curses, dots etc on raid mobs with shitloads of stuff
21:47.39nevcairieli am healing/cleaning .. frame highlight and debuff border is good enough for me :)
21:47.49nevcairieli like seeing when the dispell priest is slacking again
21:47.49nevcairielor so
21:48.44Gagorianckknight: That would be cool though.. Maybe add default sets per class?
21:49.00GagorianLike warlocks would have their curses, dots and shadow vulnerability
21:49.22ckknightGagorian: well, potentially. I might not even make it user-editable (for now) if we do that
21:49.24ckknightjust make it smart.
21:49.25Chompersremove all intellect debuffs from warriors and stuff
21:49.28GagorianMages probably scorch, CoE, sheep etc
21:49.47ckknightGagorian: well, actually for this it only affects things on friendly units.
21:49.59ckknightfor enemies, that's handled by the game itself
21:50.20GagorianWell the game stuff for DPS is useless from what I've seen
21:50.23ckknightChompers: lol, don't know how to accomplish that easily
21:51.37CIA-2303ckknight * r34738 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - optimization in hp tags
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21:55.46Arjorhello guys. I have a small problem with pitbull you might know how to fix. since i've updated it today the buff/debuff filtering is on all the time ( i can only see buffs/ debuffs relivant to my class ). and no matter how i change that option it stays the same. basicaly i can't see any debuffs that i can't cure
21:55.50Arjoranyone had that ?
21:55.55wallenso, debuffs on friendly units are now fixed on pitbull?
21:56.31Arjordunno
21:56.45Arjori rerolled to an 2 days's old version and it's working fine
21:56.50Arjorthe new one doesn't
21:57.40Arjorso that's a known issue ?
21:58.26beerkeWhat was the addon called where you could see the eventcalls in wow
21:58.45beerkewith their execution times next to it
21:59.17wallenArjor, it's been fixed now I believe
21:59.20wallen1144.09 <CIA-23> nevcairiel * r34737 PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua:
21:59.20wallen1144.09 <CIA-23> PitBull
21:59.20wallen1144.09 <CIA-23> - Aura: fix filtering
21:59.40nymbiabeerke: there's a handful.. best event viewer i've seen is in DevTools
21:59.51Arjorthanks alot
22:00.05beerkenah not the one i am looking for
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22:02.31KirkburnIs it possible to have a Pitbull Spark on pets?
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22:05.33theoddone33oh man, I couldn't figure out why pitbull had two windows up for my player... i figured it was a hunter thing since I just started... turned out I had aguf on still :(
22:06.05theoddone33I'm smrt
22:06.18nymbialol
22:06.50CIA-2303toadkiller * r34739 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarButton.lua ChangeList.lua Core.lua):
22:06.50CIA-23AutoBar:
22:06.50CIA-23-- Add support for bandaging pets. Tx Tarkumi.
22:06.50CIA-23-- Remove auto added spell slots. Spell slots now only show if explicitly added. This should move all conjure items to the conjure slot.
22:06.50CIA-23-- Note that food & water have a conjure button set as lowest priority so you can just click it to make more when you run out.
22:07.35CIA-2303bam 07dataminer * r34740 10ItemPrice-1.0/ (8 files):
22:07.35CIA-23ItemPrice-1.0:
22:07.35CIA-23- Refactoring (partial support for allakhazam)
22:08.10ckknightlol, the_squid
22:08.13ckknighttheoddone33*
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22:08.58hypetechanybody around that uses the detox mod?
22:10.21Funkeh`astomancer down
22:10.23Funkeh`yey
22:10.45HappyRogueFunkeh` show lewt :D
22:10.51Funkeh`shite
22:10.52Daemona<-
22:10.54ckknightbeerke: Expo?
22:11.04Chompers<PROTECTED>
22:11.06Daemonagot the dagger today :)
22:11.06Chomperswoo!
22:11.11CIA-2303bam * r34741 10ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0.lua:
22:11.11CIA-23ItemPrice-1.0:
22:11.11CIA-23- Price update (2 items)
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22:13.29ckknightbtw, do people here have an issue with AFK being part of statusgone and thusly covering up the health at times?
22:13.58vhaarrckknight: people set themselves as AFK all the time, particularly healers
22:14.02vhaarrI do it as well
22:14.16ckknightlame.
22:14.26Megalonthey deserve to die!
22:15.36vhaarrIt's not lame - when you're raiding some instance and get whispers from people asking if you want to help them do a quest, *they* are the lamers.
22:15.40vhaarr<PROTECTED>
22:15.48Daemonaagreed
22:15.54Daemonai usually set dnd though
22:15.56Daemonanot afk ;)
22:16.21CIA-2303ckknight * r34742 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - removed AFK from Status and StatusGone
22:17.35sylvanaarI need something to do...i have that 'i need a project' feeling
22:17.53ckknightsylvanaar: I get that at times
22:18.00CIA-2303ckknight * r34743 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull - Layouts/ABF - added [AFK:Angle] to each nameTextStyle
22:18.00CIA-2303rabbit * r34744 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Bugfix.
22:18.07Cryectdamn PTR down
22:18.09pastamancersylvanaar: want to poke at a new rosterlib?
22:18.33Cryectheh was going to polish up Protractor so it would be good enough to release as a demo of pie charts in graphlib
22:19.52Sarozvhaarr, can we have all active mods listed as mod-per-line
22:19.53Sarozplx
22:19.57Sarozbigwigs mods
22:20.02vhaarrSaroz: really want that?
22:20.08Sarozyes plx
22:20.12Sarozimpossible to read otherwise
22:20.19vhaarrit used to be like that, but I didn't think it was necessary
22:20.20vhaarrbut alright
22:20.47Sarozwell, you only have like 3-4 mods at a time, if that, so listing them shouldnt be too much, and it's nice for readablity :p
22:21.10hypetechdoes ora2 work with CT_Raid tanking windows?
22:21.28CIA-2303nymbia * r34745 10StatStain/StatStain.lua:
22:21.28CIA-23StatStain:
22:21.28CIA-23- Patch for socket coloring problems, thanks Roartindon.
22:21.28nevcairielwhy do you have more then 1 mod anyway?
22:21.42vhaarrhypetech: yeah
22:21.51nevcairieli just shift-click it when i noticed that it loaded too much
22:22.03hypetechvhaarr, which do you prefer?
22:22.09vhaarrhypetech: oRA2
22:22.10Sarozwell usually only have a max of 2 loaded
22:22.31hypetechvhaarr, I'll have to try it out ty
22:22.43hypetechanybody know of a lean simple timer mod?
22:22.49hypetechjust a stopwatch type deal
22:22.59nevcairiel./bwlcb :D
22:23.48vhaarr:)
22:24.44CIA-2303ckknight * r34746 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added tags DND and AFKDND (combination)
22:25.15CIA-2303ckknight * r34747 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull - Layouts/ABF - changed AFK tags to AFKDND
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22:28.08sylvanaarpastamancer another rosterlib?
22:28.54ckknightyea, why another rosterlib?
22:28.55sylvanaarsomeone made pie charts!
22:29.00sylvanaarthats cool
22:30.07ZealotOnASticksylvanaar: want to fix Voyeur's problems (since I don't)?
22:31.02sylvanaarhmm...you wnat to prep Prat (docs, pics, wiki) for release
22:31.13sylvanaari'll trade
22:32.56sylvanaari want to release the Preview by the end of the week, but I simply cannot write the description. i lack that skill entirely
22:33.38sylvanaarand i dont want to release it with 4 little pictures and half a paragraph of description
22:34.03GngskI got yer description right here
22:34.05Gngsk[18:28:47] <+Gavessage> Prat is such an awesome chat addon
22:34.10Gngskshort and sweet!
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22:34.54CIA-2303sid67 * r34748 10FuBar_ChatAlertsFu/ (ChatAlertsFu.lua FuBar_ChatAlertsFu.toc):
22:34.54CIA-23FuBar_ChatAlertsFu:
22:34.54CIA-23- fixed monster emote bug
22:34.54CIA-23- updated logic on spam filter, may avoid error with FlagRSP
22:35.36sedatedChipmunkckknight: in a passing group, whose func, disabled, and hidden functions are passValue sent: the group itself or its children?
22:35.45sylvanaarlol, i want to do it some justice on its release page
22:36.00ckknighthyperChipmunk: the group itself
22:36.09hyperChipmunkk
22:36.14AmadeoWell I guess 2.1 for Tuesday is no longer an option :P
22:36.23hyperChipmunkthankya
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22:38.13AmadeoI can't help but think those 1000W power supplies are insane whenever I see one
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22:43.24AmadeoI heard you need two just to run Cosmos
22:44.46kergothAmadeo: whats the news with 2.1?
22:44.48CIA-2303nymbia * r34749 10StatStain/StatStain.lua:
22:44.48CIA-23StatStain:
22:44.49CIA-23- Post-hook OnTooltipSetItem so we don't mess with Bonuses.
22:45.55Amadeokergoth: No idea, just saw that Tuesday is rolling restarts
22:46.03kergothhmm
22:46.12Amadeome too :(
22:46.15AmadeoI have a lot of honor to blow
22:46.20Gngskanother month!
22:46.51Amadeohahaha PitBull says: Rabbit ["AFKDND" Unkno...
22:47.10Amadeoand I don't mean vhaarr :P
22:47.12nevcairielnew honor items coming?
22:47.19nevcairieli have only stockpilling arena points
22:47.34Amadeonevcairiel: Just cheaper items
22:47.38nevcairielah
22:47.42nevcairielwhats getting cheaper?
22:47.47Amadeoeverything I think
22:47.48CIA-2303rabbit * r34750 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs: Options: Put active boss modules back at one line each.
22:47.51nevcairielnice
22:47.52CIA-2303funkydude * r34751 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua:
22:47.52CIA-23BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian:
22:47.52CIA-23- don't rely on the sync to display proximity, show it when you are afflicted
22:47.53CIA-23- add 20% trigger, cancel split bars
22:47.54vhaarrSaroz: there
22:47.56nevcairieli need teh boots
22:48.48GagorianEU PTR down?
22:53.18CIA-2303sid67 * r34752 10FuBar_ChatAlertsFu/ChatAlertsFu.lua:
22:53.18CIA-23FuBar_ChatAlertsFu:
22:53.18CIA-23- only spam checking alerted channels now. this should fix the flagRSP problem
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22:59.05Cryectkergoth: 2.1 wasn't even scheduled till next week at the earliest from what I heard
22:59.55sylvanaarthe new sw stats combat log tool looks really powerful
23:00.03kergothah
23:00.13ckknightAmadeo: that means that DogTag isn't updated
23:01.28nevcairielheh, the SWS author credited me in the 2.1.0 beta annoucne
23:01.30nevcairielgood guy!
23:01.48sylvanaarhe is a good guy
23:01.56wallenSWS as in swstats?
23:01.59nevcairielyea
23:02.25Amadeockknight: Yeah, I must have missed the WAU update, working again :)
23:02.32Amadeobut my portraits disabled themselves for some reason
23:02.33nevcairielDoes UniLog do what i think it does?
23:02.38Amadeofixed it in options
23:03.19sylvanaarit filters the combat log and then makes it into like a spreadsheet
23:03.31wallennice
23:03.37ckknightAmadeo: yea, I disabled the portraits
23:03.39sylvanaarits sweet
23:03.45nevcairielsounds fun
23:03.54nevcairielgotta try it in raid tomorrow
23:04.24sylvanaarok factionsfu - im going to change it - i dont want to see inactive factions ever
23:04.29wallenisn't UniLog coming with 2.1?
23:04.35Amadeockknight: gotcha
23:04.36nevcairielyup
23:04.56CIA-2303rabbit * r34753 10BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows/BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows.Lua: BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows: Bugfix (lol).
23:04.58wallenhow can you try it? As long as you are not raiding on PTR
23:05.04sylvanaaryes, you can download it from the website
23:05.04restoredDoes TinyTip have the function to disable tooltips in combat ?
23:05.08sylvanaarum
23:05.11sylvanaarsws 2.1
23:05.14sylvanaarnot wow
23:05.21wallenouch, I suck
23:05.28nevcairieleven with wow, you can get a raid on PTR pretty easy :P
23:05.38wallenyeah
23:06.07Arjorpeople still do naxx to find errors in BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows?
23:06.13nevcairiellol
23:06.14vhaarrArjor: Apparently :P
23:06.34CryectI know DnT and few other guilds still do it
23:06.35Arjor:)
23:06.52wallenwhere are you getting swstats 2.1 from? I usually use curse-gaming but the beta page for sws gives a 404
23:06.59nevcairielwww.sw-stats.com
23:07.14sylvanaarwww.sw-stats.com
23:07.20nevcairieltoo slow!
23:07.23Gagorianwww.sw-stats.com
23:07.33vhaarrwww.sws-tits.com
23:07.39Funkeh`yourmom.com
23:07.41sylvanaarhehe, hes also reducing the amount of data that gets collected
23:07.56Megalonno boobies @ www.sws-tits.com :(((
23:08.01sylvanaarby default that is
23:08.04wallenyeah, last time I nuked I freed 7MB or so
23:08.31Arjorswstats 2.1 doesn't sync with older versions right?
23:08.36wallennop
23:08.40sylvanaarthe reduction only applies by default to outdoors.
23:08.41wallenIMPORTANT: Exit the game when installing 2.1.0 - don't just reloadui. Old versions will NOT be able to sync with 2.1.0
23:09.02sylvanaarbut you can set it to always 'narrow'
23:10.17Funkeh`LOL
23:10.28Funkeh`I discovered an interesting issue while learning Magtheridon last night. I had an active GM ticket (a gold spam whisper report) that was auto-responded to by a GM. DBM, not knowing the special nature of the whisper, responded to inform the GM that I was currently in combat with Magtheridon.
23:10.34Funkeh`I then got an automated whisper back from the same GM name in response to the DBM whisper, saying something to the effect of not being able to contact that GM because I don't have an open ticket.
23:10.39Funkeh`This created a loop of DBM->automated GM system->DBM->automated GM system->etc. whispers going back and forth until the fight ended several minutes later.
23:10.52Cryecthaha  
23:11.06Godzmack_lol
23:11.07vhaarrrofl
23:11.07NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: that's awesome.
23:11.10Cryectnow why the hella re you using DBM ;)
23:11.20vhaarrCryect: he copy/pasted it from somewhere :P
23:11.20Funkeh`im reading the comments
23:12.04kergothFunkeh`: hahah
23:12.12nevcairieldidnt DBM only whisper once, and not again to the same person?
23:12.13*** join/#wowace Administrador (n=chatzill@200.14.239.210)
23:12.13nevcairielor so?
23:12.18CryectImagine if someone in the raid whispers someone else in the raid
23:12.22Cryectand they both have DBM
23:12.26Cryectwill that setup a chain :-p
23:12.27kebinusannevcairiel: yeah I thought so
23:12.27Funkeh`LOL
23:12.35Funkeh`that would rock
23:13.02kebinusanits supposed to have flood control
23:13.15kebinusanit just may not work because of the gm tag on the name or somethin
23:13.41kebinusanFunkeh`: you should add a bigwigs module for that progress thing :-)
23:13.46wallenit doesn't work if you whisper people that are in the same raid as you
23:13.51wallen(BDM)
23:14.03Funkeh`wallen fucking spoil the fun
23:14.09CryectI wonder could we write a  DDOS attack program to attack people who use DBM :-p
23:14.09wallen:(
23:14.21Funkeh`:p
23:14.25Cryectdistributes whispers to that person to flood them with their responses
23:14.31Funkeh`Cryect: i wouldn't take it that far
23:14.45Megaloni would!
23:14.47CryectFunkeh`: of course not and I'm too lazy to actually do it
23:14.52Funkeh`haha
23:15.40Funkeh`keep in mind most people that even use it is because their guild uses it or they are forced to use it, the other 50% don't even know what it does, or use it for pvp \o/
23:15.46Administradorcan ne 1 point me on how to do a little text window on which I can write stuff and when I press enter do something with the text? yes, like a chat text input
23:15.55kebinusanFunkeh`: or because they havent looked at the code
23:16.00nevcairieli forced my guild to switch to BigWigs :P
23:16.18Funkeh`kebinusan: i think most people read on curse 'efficient code' and presume
23:16.31Funkeh`imo, using on update on a boss module doesn't classify sa efficient
23:16.44kebinusanI like to think biwigs would be on the top download if it wasnt for the svn or WAU
23:16.58Funkeh`ofc it owuld be
23:17.07Funkeh`it was 10 most downlaoded for 5 days on release
23:17.13Funkeh`count that and svn
23:17.21Administradorso is DBM crap?
23:17.34Funkeh`compared to bigwigs
23:17.48wallenBW is usually more up-to-date for the newest explored instances like SSC and TK
23:17.55wallenthat's why I like it at least
23:18.04Funkeh`yeah we got black temple stuff now
23:18.11Keitawow
23:18.13nevcairielbest thing about bigwigs, when i find a bug, i can either bug ammo about it, or just fix it myself :P
23:18.14kebinusanOh Funkeh`, the emphasis anchor, is it possible to add an option for that anchor to have a different growth parameter
23:18.33wallenby the way nevcairiel, thanks for fixing the debuff issue on Pitbull about friendly targets
23:18.49wallentoday I was duelling a warrior in my same party and I couldn't see my dots on him and went "what the fuck!1"
23:19.22Funkeh`kebinusan: it does already? Oo
23:19.23nevcairielwe wiped in shadow labs because i couldnt see the debuffs heh
23:19.29walleneheh
23:21.24kebinusanFunkeh`: I dont see it, I mean like this:  I have bars grow up on my normal anchor
23:21.33kebinusanId like them to grow down on my emphasis anchor
23:21.40wallenlike in scale?
23:21.50kebinusanas in direction
23:21.55wallenI see
23:22.30kebinusanmy normal bw bar location is the bottom right of my screen, so they grow upwards, my emphasis anchor is top middle, so Id like them to grow down.. the opposite direction of my normal bar growth
23:22.41kebinusanso the emphasis frame would need its own growth direction flag
23:22.56Keitais there an ace libaray that will let me create an input text box easily?
23:23.38sylvanaarcan you clickcast off nameplates?
23:24.09wallenrofl PTR is up
23:24.14wallenhuge buffs to everything by the look of it
23:24.36sylvanaarthose were outlined on curse yesterday i think
23:24.57wallenthey buffed the mindblade to +203dmg :E
23:25.13Megalonthe prince dagger?
23:25.14Megalon>:<
23:25.20kebinusanwow really
23:25.29wallenyeah
23:25.31ZealotOnAStickAwesome.
23:25.34ZealotOnAStickmy Dagger.
23:25.35MegalonBoubouille, gogo screenshot time!
23:25.41nymbiawoot mindblade buff ^^
23:25.44wallenhandwraps of flowing thought: 24 stam, 22 int, spellhit 14, dam/heal 35
23:25.54Megalonwallen: can you have a look at the nightbane shield?
23:25.56CIA-2303rabbit * r34754 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua:
23:25.56CIA-23BigWigs: Vashj:
23:25.56CIA-23<PROTECTED>
23:25.56CIA-23<PROTECTED>
23:26.08Megalonif someone is around you with it
23:26.08sylvanaarthre were shots on the front page of curse yesterday i think
23:26.10nevcairielneed new stats!
23:26.15NeoTronwallen: that makes me happy
23:26.26wallennah sylvanaar, the patched PTR servers just came online
23:26.43nymbiathey buff t4 at all?
23:26.46Megalon< EU, so have to wait 24+ to look myself :(
23:26.47NeoTronso still not on a news site, just in-game reports?
23:26.52NeoTron:se noai
23:26.52NeoTrona:se ai
23:26.55nevcairielnah EU PTR too
23:27.10nevcairiel10mb patch to 6655
23:27.17MegalonEU got patched TODAY?!
23:27.19Megalonzomg
23:27.51Megalonalways thought same patch time as live servers, tuesday>wednesday night
23:27.56nevcairielnop
23:28.00nevcairielthey patch PTR on the fly
23:28.10Megalonok, then i'll look myself :D
23:28.25NeoTron"Tremor totem now ticks every second "
23:28.26NeoTronwow
23:28.28NeoTronthat's.. a buff
23:28.33nevcairieli hate it already
23:28.34Megalonthat'
23:28.37nevcairielfucking shamans in pvp
23:28.39Amadeoholy shit, that's a huge buff
23:28.41NeoTronor it's not true
23:28.45Megalonthat's a
23:28.48wallenthat's a lie?
23:28.50Megalonthat's not a buff
23:28.51NeoTronprobably just some lame lie
23:28.52nevcairieli will diff the changelogs
23:28.54Megalonthat can't be true
23:29.18NeoTronI'll have to wait until I can see proof but I'm sure someone was just being funny
23:29.26Megalonyea
23:29.26Chompersptr patch is only 10mb
23:29.33kebinusanwhere are the notes posted?
23:29.45Chompersi thought it would be bigger, with all the changes
23:29.45nevcairielits just a bunch of item changes
23:30.28nevcairielmeh download stuck at 90%
23:30.35Megalon93% !
23:31.36Megalonstill 93% argh >:<
23:31.41nevcairiel94!
23:31.50Megalonhmpf
23:31.53MegalonDIE!!!
23:32.14Megalon95
23:32.20Megalongiev 0.5mb ffs
23:33.03Tekkubwhy the hell does TipHookerLib hook all those fucking Set* methods instead of the OnTooltipSetItem/etc script handlers
23:33.10TekkubI'm disowning you people
23:33.28nevcairielthats the lib RatingBuster uses?
23:33.29KemayoTekkub: It might want to know the stacksize of inventory items.
23:33.43TekkubRB doesn't need that info
23:33.50vhaarrI don't think the author, whitetooth, has ever been on IRC.
23:33.57vhaarr~seen whitetooth
23:34.00purlwhitetooth <n=Whitetoo@59-127-64-40.HINET-IP.hinet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 34d 13h 19m 51s ago, saying: 'I don't know, I logged in using the 0.0.10 client'.
23:34.06nevcairielhis StatLogicLib is broken too
23:34.07vhaarroh, alright.
23:34.08Tekkuband... handler(tooltip, name, link)
23:34.11*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)
23:34.13nevcairielit counts some values double
23:34.20Tekkubthat's no extra info than tooltip:GetItem gives
23:34.35Megalonratingbuster is my only addon using that lib
23:34.37Megalon:O
23:34.52Tekkubin fact it outright calls GetItem and passes that
23:35.46nevcairielffs 200kb missing
23:35.48nevcairieldamn patch
23:36.09Tekkub*growl*
23:36.15Tekkub<PROTECTED>
23:36.27TekkubI GAVE him the simple code to use... but whatever
23:36.42Tekkubmaybe I'll revive tekirate
23:37.57nevcairielsrsly, ive uploaded more then downloaded now
23:38.04nevcairielgive me the damn last 200kb :P
23:38.16nymbiai even asked him
23:38.17nymbiaone time
23:38.21nymbiawhen he was on IRC
23:38.25KemayoToday's episode of Tekkub Thinks Your Code Sucks is brought to you by the letter R and the number 2.
23:38.35nymbiawhy he did the old-style hooking
23:38.39nymbiaand he didnt answer
23:38.43Tekkubhe has no reason to
23:38.50TekkubNO reason
23:39.01TekkubEQUIPMENT DOESN"T FUCKING STACK!
23:39.08TekkubAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:39.17nymbiaindeed.
23:39.17nevcairielpoor tek
23:39.19vhaarrTekkub: Actually, in 2.0.12, I'm not sure the new-style hooking catches items in tradeskill windows. At least some people complained about that when I converted Mendeleev to use OnTooltipSetItem.
23:39.46nymbiait probably calls OnTooltipSetSpell
23:40.07Tekkubfunny, tekKompare is showing a tooltip on a gun I can craft
23:40.12vhaarrand Kaelten said something about that, too, and ended up using all the old Set* methods for KCI2 or something.
23:40.19Tekkubwhich mean it's calling the script :)
23:40.26Bam__hmm the ArmorSlot stacks sort of
23:40.33vhaarrTekkub: well, maybe it has been fixed since then, but it was post-2.0 at least.
23:40.35Bam__AmmoSlot
23:40.43nevcairielbut it doesnt matter
23:40.54Kaeltenvhaarr: hrm?
23:40.55TekkubI'm still pissed off, I'm gonna go kick my cat till I feel better
23:40.59vhaarrhaha
23:41.11sbunevcairiel: patch? :o
23:41.14vhaarrKaelten: hrm hrm
23:41.14sbuPTR patch?
23:41.20nevcairielsbu: yea
23:41.24nevcairielmore item changes
23:41.24Megalonsbu: yes
23:41.28sbugiev epic info :o
23:41.30Megalon97% :S
23:41.34nevcairielbut i am still some kibs behind
23:41.35sbumeh :p
23:41.36nevcairiel97% too
23:41.38Bam__if only GameTooltip:GetItem() would return item count... :(
23:41.38Kaeltenvhaarr: my problem was not being able to pull the qty
23:41.49vhaarrKaelten: ah, right, that was it.
23:41.51KaeltenBam__: bingo, thats the issue
23:42.01Bam__would make things 10 times easier
23:42.05KaeltenI think I used a mixture, but I'm not sure
23:42.08NeoTronso rumor on forum is that karagear is not ilevel 115
23:42.10NeoTronis that correct?
23:42.20Kaeltenwhat I have is working though
23:42.43Bam__post a request for that on the UI forum perhaps?
23:42.58nevcairielyay its done
23:43.26Keitacan ne 1 point me on how to do a input text box?
23:44.04Megalon100!!11
23:44.19KaeltenBam__: we already have, slouken said that we are, more or less, out of luck
23:44.28Bam__ok :(
23:45.05nymbiaKeita: there's a simple example in sniff
23:45.15CIA-2303rabbit * r34755 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: Solarian: Syntax errors.
23:45.22Keitathx nymbia
23:46.09nevcairielpatch notes did not change a bit
23:46.17NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: last i checked, kara epics were ilvl 100, and have always been.
23:46.39wallenhttp://wallen.ngi.it/2.1/ for some random updated items (t4/t5 for locks, t5 for shamans, loot from karazhan/mag/ssc)
23:46.45sbunevcairiel: uhm is 6624 the latest patch?
23:46.53nevcairielno
23:46.54nevcairiel6655
23:46.58sbuok
23:47.26Megalonnevcairiel: got it?
23:47.35NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: well last you checked was before the latest PTR
23:47.41NeoTronit seems like they indeed are buffed
23:47.50NeoTronhttp://wallen.ngi.it/2.1/nathrezim_mindblade.jpg <- was ilevel 110, is now 125
23:47.57Megaloni've uploaded the update for enGB if someone else torrent is ... :c
23:48.05sbuoh
23:48.05sbu203
23:48.07sbuwtf
23:48.10NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: indeed it was a while ago. huh, interesting.
23:48.22NeoTronkarazhan now cleary is an upgrade path
23:48.36nevcairielwow
23:48.39nevcairielall my items are buffed
23:48.42nevcairielpretty much
23:48.42NeoTronI'm wondering if in fact I should even bother with spellstrike now
23:48.44sbuheh
23:48.44nevcairielt4 and kara loot
23:48.47sbugiev patch
23:48.47sbu:)
23:48.49NeoTronor just go for T4
23:48.50sbut4 too?
23:48.52sbunice!
23:49.13Megalonwow
23:49.17nevcairielbasicly i got 100 +heal more, and like 8 mana reg
23:49.38JoshBorkeme want dagger!
23:49.46nevcairielmy t4 gloves are amazing now
23:49.53sbuuhm
23:49.54sbupriest?
23:49.56wallenI wonder how much they buffed the sword from Leo
23:49.58sbudamn, i passed
23:50.07nevcairielnah druid
23:50.39NeoTronspellstrike still has more damage potential
23:51.19sbumeh, the should really nerf tailor tuff :/
23:51.32wallennah, why?
23:51.38wallenthey buffed everything else, it is ok
23:51.41SarozGIVE PALADINS ITEM BUFFS
23:51.43sbuhmm well ok
23:51.54nevcairielSaroz: every damn epic was buffed, more or less
23:51.56sbubut mooncloth stuff still > t5
23:51.59NeoTronhttp://wallen.ngi.it/2.1/boots_of_shifting_nightmare.jpg ilevel 128?! how unusual. where do they come from?
23:52.03sbuor ~t5
23:52.07sbu(priest)
23:52.09wallenNeoTron: Hydross
23:52.12NeoTronah
23:52.18NeoTronsbu: you seen the new t5?
23:52.25sbuyep
23:52.35Megalonhttp://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kingsdefenderwa2.jpg king's defender
23:52.36Megalon:O
23:52.51NeoTronhttp://wallen.ngi.it/2.1/eye_of_magtheridon.jpg
23:52.55NeoTronwow. I'll take that!
23:53.24Boubouillehttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=167.0
23:53.27Boubouilleupdated all the tier 6 stats
23:53.53sbuahh nice
23:53.55sbumore heal :o
23:53.58nevcairieleven more amazing :o
23:54.08nevcairielneed teh thunderheart raiment!
23:55.17Sarozwow, epics might actually be worth fighting for again
23:55.58Funkeh`NeoTron: those are my boots
23:56.03Funkeh`NeoTron: MIINE
23:56.04sdoubleis there a way to create a new chat window (programmatically)
23:57.02NeoTronthis new patch ftw
23:57.11nevcairielthe item buffs are amazing
23:57.20NeoTronthe item buffs will help offset comsumable nerfs for sure
23:57.24nevcairielaltho rogues are crying because they nerfed the gladiator weapons
23:57.25NeoTronand it will make raiding feel worthwhile
23:57.28NeoTronin terms of upgrades
23:57.41NeoTronbut I need to get my flowing gloves and maiden bracers from kara now :P
23:57.54nevcairieli still need new bracers
23:57.58nevcairielstill using t3
23:58.22nevcairielwtb good leather healing bracers!
23:58.56Arrowmasteranybody know how much dodge % 12agi is for a 70 warrior?
23:59.04NeoTronI wish I could get 4xVH + 3xshadoweave
23:59.21hyperChipmunklike 1/3...1/2 after 2.1
23:59.45Arrowmasterreally? wow
23:59.51NeoTronI wonder if this is why they reverred shadoweave? by making all the other epics better?

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