| 00:00.00 | ckknight | Xelotar: well, what's the issue? |
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| 00:01.38 | sylvanaar | ok, lets see if i actually buy anything when i go to fry's bbl |
| 00:02.23 | Xelotar | interface\addons\fubar\fubar_panel.lua:4: Cannot find a library instance of jostle-2.0. |
| 00:03.10 | Xelotar | got that error the first time after the WAU update funktion |
| 00:03.41 | ckknight | well, Jostle's included in FuBar, so something messed up |
| 00:03.46 | ckknight | with WAU or otherwise |
| 00:04.07 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r34383 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua WhatsNew.txt): |
| 00:04.07 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 00:04.07 | CIA-23 | - When you are already in combat when logging-in or if you reload your UI in combat, Decursive will operate correctly. |
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| 00:04.20 | Xelotar | hmmmm |
| 00:04.29 | Xelotar | i'll reinstall it |
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| 00:04.43 | ckknight | that could work |
| 00:05.31 | Xelotar | hope so ^^ |
| 00:06.55 | Xelotar | nope.... |
| 00:07.14 | Roartindon | What version are you getting of FuBar? |
| 00:07.23 | Xelotar | the one WAU offers me |
| 00:07.40 | Xelotar | 34287 |
| 00:24.39 | Roartindon | hehehe. latest PTR notes: # Netherspite's room now has a door that locks when the encounter begins. |
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| 00:28.59 | kenlyric | that's not latest. |
| 00:29.38 | kenlyric | been in the notes since the notes came out. |
| 00:29.43 | Roartindon | ah. |
| 00:29.51 | Roartindon | Got links to the PTR notes for today? |
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| 00:30.43 | kenlyric | didn't know there were new notes today. |
| 00:31.18 | Roartindon | well, I got a new patch when I logged on test today |
| 00:31.22 | Roartindon | Haven't seen notes for it yet tho |
| 00:31.40 | Neebler | roartindon, how come your layout was removed from ag_uf? I just updated ag_uf today and it's gone :( |
| 00:31.55 | Roartindon | Neebler: I thought it was removed months ago :) |
| 00:32.05 | Roartindon | Probably because it didn't support a number of the options |
| 00:32.08 | Neebler | well I update about that often |
| 00:32.16 | Roartindon | Not sure, you'll have to ask ag' or whoever removed it |
| 00:32.25 | Neebler | it's a sexah layout for party UF's |
| 00:33.00 | CIA-23 | 03evilelvis * r34384 10eePanels/ (guidePanel.lua localization.enUS.lua resize.tga): eePanels: added ability to resize panels via mouse |
| 00:33.28 | CIA-23 | 03evilelvis * r34385 10eeShards/core.lua: eeShards: removed unregister even which didn't seem to work |
| 00:33.50 | Kaelten | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/gallery/details/22638/kci-1-0s-new-tooltips/ |
| 00:33.52 | Kaelten | opinion time |
| 00:33.56 | vhaarr | "New changes for today: Heroic offhands, necks, rings, and helms have received small buffs across the board. For example, Orb of the Soul-Eater is now 18 sta 51 dmg. Tailoring items are back to the way they were. BOP Blacksmithing weapons have been buffed (note: not a joke). Deep Thunder received +4.3dps (+18 top-end damage) and +1 str/agi/sta." |
| 00:33.57 | Kaelten | fire away some feedback |
| 00:33.59 | vhaarr | Roartindon: ^ |
| 00:34.29 | Roartindon | vhaarr: thanks :) |
| 00:34.31 | vhaarr | Kaelten: I'd really prefer just a "14g6s62c" type of thing. |
| 00:34.53 | Kaelten | I'm going to have a text option as well |
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| 00:35.13 | Kaelten | but this is harder to code so I wrote it first |
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| 00:37.16 | NightHawkTheSane | they buffed BS? o_0 |
| 00:37.30 | Roartindon | Isn't it nice that they even said "not a joke"! |
| 00:37.42 | vhaarr | Blizzard didn't say that. |
| 00:37.50 | vhaarr | It's a quote from a random forum guy at EJ. |
| 00:38.28 | Roartindon | hmm.. stormcaller is +9 damage |
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| 00:43.17 | KarlThePagan | Kaelten, i like tooltips - max 4 significant units if you're showing gold,silver,copper imo |
| 00:43.44 | Kaelten | in the end it'll be fairly customizable. |
| 00:43.47 | KarlThePagan | cool |
| 00:43.51 | Kaelten | right now its rather static in comparisson. |
| 00:44.09 | KarlThePagan | i like tooltips! |
| 00:45.23 | Arilaw | i like pie |
| 00:45.31 | Arilaw | (and tooltips) |
| 00:45.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i like pi. |
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| 00:47.08 | Arilaw | what does pi taste like? |
| 00:47.29 | Mikma | like 3.14 |
| 00:48.21 | NightHawkTheSane | well, a little more like 3.14159265359, but yeah |
| 00:49.46 | hyperChipmunk | 3.1415926535898 |
| 00:49.56 | pastamancer | ~pi |
| 00:50.12 | purl | i guess pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 00:50.12 | hyperChipmunk | well if you wanna be lame about it |
| 00:50.25 | Mikma | ~pee |
| 00:50.30 | purl | Ok. |
| 00:50.30 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, i've got 1.8 MB of pi somewhere on this computer, don't go making me find it :P |
| 00:50.58 | Wobin | hehe |
| 00:51.03 | KarlThePagan | go get some code to calculate pi |
| 00:51.47 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, we can make purl pee on command? ... |
| 00:52.02 | Wobin | ~pee |
| 00:52.06 | purl | Ok. |
| 00:53.02 | TecnoBrat | ~wau |
| 00:53.04 | purl | from memory, wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily. |
| 00:54.11 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. If a cake recipe calls for 1/2 cup vegetable oil, can I substitute olive oil instead? |
| 00:55.07 | Roartindon | hmm.. if you want an olive tasting cake |
| 00:55.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 00:56.05 | ilmarinen | I'm getting errors about failure to send chat messages with my mod due to the whispers containing reserved words. Anyone have any idea where I can find out what the reserved words are so I know which one I'm sending? |
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| 00:57.47 | hyperChipmunk | you can't |
| 00:58.01 | hyperChipmunk | are you a spammer or something? |
| 00:58.09 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: Olive oil can be fairly strong |
| 00:58.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: so... thats a 'probably not', right? damn, i dont have any vegetable oil |
| 00:58.43 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: But overall, it shouldn't be a problem =) |
| 00:58.58 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 00:59.08 | Wobin | As long as it's not the "Extra extra virgin olive oil" |
| 00:59.20 | Wobin | where it's -really- strongly flavoured |
| 00:59.33 | NightHawkTheSane | well, its 'extra light olive oil' |
| 00:59.49 | Wobin | perfect =) |
| 01:00.12 | NightHawkTheSane | cool. I really didnt feel like having to go and buy vegetable oil |
| 01:00.21 | Diao | tell us how it turns out |
| 01:00.31 | NightHawkTheSane | can do. |
| 01:01.59 | Wobin | When it come to baking, substitution is easy =) |
| 01:02.15 | Tain | Olive oil will make a different flavor. It might not be bad, but it will be different. |
| 01:02.30 | Tain | It will probably empart a richer flavor. |
| 01:03.09 | Tain | (impart) |
| 01:03.20 | Wobin | I use it for banana bread |
| 01:03.32 | Wobin | mostly cause it's the only oil in the house =P |
| 01:03.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: same :P |
| 01:03.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i use it a lot for other types of cooking, but i really dont do very much baking |
| 01:03.53 | pastamancer | it's really worthwhile to keep a big bottle of canola oil around |
| 01:04.02 | Tain | I usually have extra virgin and use it more for flavor. |
| 01:04.20 | Tain | But yeah I agree with pastamancer :) I usually try to have canola oil. |
| 01:04.33 | pastamancer | if only because you can't deep-fry with olive oil |
| 01:04.40 | pastamancer | or at least I woudln't want to |
| 01:04.45 | Wobin | you can't |
| 01:04.55 | Wobin | the oil burns too quickly |
| 01:05.14 | pastamancer | I've never been tempted to try |
| 01:05.16 | Tain | Yeah, you can technically with things that fry at a lower temperature. |
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| 01:05.41 | Tain | But olive oil smokes around (I think) 300F |
| 01:05.49 | Wobin | tbh, it's too expensive to use olive oil =) |
| 01:05.53 | Tain | Well yeah! |
| 01:06.07 | Tain | But you can deep fry in duck fat. |
| 01:06.14 | Tain | Now *that* is flavor. |
| 01:06.20 | Wobin | You just need enough duck |
| 01:06.35 | Tain | Places sell duck fat now more because it's become more common. |
| 01:06.40 | Tain | Duck fat fried french fries. |
| 01:06.46 | JoshBorke | gief splut |
| 01:06.51 | pastamancer | with rosemary and garlic? |
| 01:06.53 | Tain | They're f'in awesome. |
| 01:06.56 | Wobin | And that's the sound of my arteries =P |
| 01:07.10 | Tain | I make oven roasted fries with rosemary and garlic. |
| 01:07.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: I think i had a heart attack just thinking about that |
| 01:07.15 | Tain | Well, really potato wedges. |
| 01:07.43 | Kemayo | But it was a *delicious* heart attack, you have to admit. |
| 01:07.44 | pastamancer | "steak fries"? |
| 01:07.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: indeed. |
| 01:08.06 | Tain | I take a potato and just cut it into 1/8ths for wedges. |
| 01:08.46 | Tain | Salt, pepper, garlic, rosemary, drizzle of olive oil, bake for 15 minutes, flip, another 15, delicious. |
| 01:09.04 | vhaarr | yeah, I do that a lot as well |
| 01:09.30 | Kemayo | If you're doing things with duck fat (or goose fat, ideally, but that's harder to find) then roast potatoes is where it's at. |
| 01:09.38 | vhaarr | goes great with steak and bearnaise |
| 01:09.41 | Tain | And they're not unhealthy, you're just using a drizzle of olive oil which is good for you anyway. |
| 01:09.53 | Zicon | Bastards. You're making me hungry. |
| 01:10.06 | NightHawkTheSane | ... man, I need a new whisk, this one blows. |
| 01:10.07 | Tain | I haven't eaten all day except for half of a muffin this morning. |
| 01:10.11 | Tain | I just ordered out for pizza. |
| 01:10.33 | pastamancer | haha, I'm off to make dinner |
| 01:10.42 | NightHawkTheSane | that reminds me, I need to make time to go down to the pike place market one of these days |
| 01:12.12 | Wobin | oh and for baking cakes, duck eggs are great |
| 01:12.20 | Wobin | especially sponge |
| 01:19.18 | abyssichate | What does RaidSpy do? |
| 01:19.24 | Diao | exactly what it says :P |
| 01:19.34 | abyssichate | eh, what does it spy exactly? |
| 01:19.39 | Diao | uhh |
| 01:19.43 | Diao | item checks, dura checks, etc |
| 01:19.44 | Diao | iirc |
| 01:19.47 | Wobin | yeah |
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| 01:32.16 | torment | everytime I start wowace and hit f10 the same mods get updated to the version it supposedly downloaded and installed last time |
| 01:32.40 | JoshBorke | woohoo! |
| 01:32.41 | JoshBorke | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2911535850389797351&hl=en |
| 01:32.48 | JoshBorke | wow, that looks like crap |
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| 01:34.34 | Gngsk | Josh_Borke, is that you? |
| 01:34.45 | JoshBorke | yes, i'm trying to show off BarFader |
| 01:34.58 | Gngsk | you should go the route that mikkord did |
| 01:35.04 | Gngsk | for his msbt vid |
| 01:35.34 | Gngsk | as you've said yourself, google quality is crap |
| 01:36.08 | NightHawkTheSane | that is crap |
| 01:36.12 | NightHawkTheSane | no offense :) |
| 01:37.41 | hyperChipmunk | should use anigif for that anyway |
| 01:38.07 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: i don't want to learn how to do that |
| 01:38.47 | ckknight | JoshBorke: did you write BarFader? |
| 01:38.48 | JoshBorke | wanna make it for me? :-D |
| 01:38.52 | JoshBorke | ckknight: somewhat |
| 01:39.11 | JoshBorke | i put it in SVN first |
| 01:39.26 | JoshBorke | nymbia made it first |
| 01:39.40 | JoshBorke | s/first/work/ |
| 01:45.47 | JoshBorke | http://rapidshare.com/files/29361282/smoother.wmv |
| 01:46.00 | chuckg | What am I look at? |
| 01:46.47 | chuckg | s/look/looking |
| 01:46.53 | chuckg | s/look/looking/ |
| 01:46.54 | chuckg | SO IT |
| 01:46.56 | chuckg | :) |
| 01:46.57 | JoshBorke | barfader |
| 01:47.06 | JoshBorke | lol, good job chuck |
| 01:47.10 | chuckg | Haaha. |
| 01:47.15 | chuckg | F'off doing astromancer! |
| 01:47.43 | chuckg | Bar fader is which part of that? :| |
| 01:47.46 | chuckg | The hud? |
| 01:48.06 | JoshBorke | damnit, you made me miss what she said |
| 01:48.15 | JoshBorke | it's the pitbull thing |
| 01:48.20 | JoshBorke | i should add an arrow |
| 01:48.43 | chuckg | Can't really see it in half a second clip. |
| 01:48.47 | chuckg | Should make it a bit longer. |
| 01:48.54 | chuckg | (and the text hides it too) |
| 01:49.08 | JoshBorke | i have 0 idea what i'm doing :-P |
| 01:49.37 | chuckg | Just make the clip longer. |
| 01:49.41 | chuckg | So you can actually see the bar. |
| 01:49.48 | chuckg | What app are you using to edit in? |
| 01:49.48 | JoshBorke | yea, i'm uploading the full video |
| 01:49.58 | JoshBorke | microsoft movie maker :-P |
| 01:51.26 | KarlThePagan | I actually don't mind the windows XP version of movie maker |
| 01:51.26 | JoshBorke | http://rapidshare.com/files/29361850/smooth.wmv <-- is the full clip |
| 01:51.45 | KarlThePagan | the vista version got rid of all the good codec options |
| 01:52.12 | KarlThePagan | in other news... WTF World of Warcraft VISA card? |
| 01:53.42 | Kody- | yeah no kidding |
| 01:53.44 | Kody- | pretty odd :P |
| 01:54.13 | chuckg | Gives guys with a girlfriend who bitches about not going out anymore a way of gaining more playtime. |
| 01:54.20 | chuckg | (or wife) |
| 01:57.47 | Wobin | ?? |
| 01:58.04 | Wobin | instead of frequent flyer points you get wow hours or something? |
| 01:59.06 | NightHawkTheSane | wouldnt surprise me |
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| 02:02.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Goddaammit. |
| 02:02.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Had a crash (131 error) and after reconnecting, MainAssist isn't working. |
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| 02:07.06 | sylvanaar | seems like the log wasnt saved, my pc must have crashed or something |
| 02:07.45 | Wobin | Where's a good place for mithril? |
| 02:08.03 | sylvanaar | arathi? |
| 02:08.10 | Gngsk | nah |
| 02:08.14 | Gngsk | arathi is mostly iron and tin |
| 02:08.25 | hyperChipmunk | arathi highlands, badlands |
| 02:08.35 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 02:08.40 | hyperChipmunk | best is hinterlands though |
| 02:08.41 | Gngsk | alterac mts |
| 02:08.43 | Wobin | it's true =\ |
| 02:08.50 | sylvanaar | ah hinterlands |
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| 02:09.16 | hyperChipmunk | hinterlands is > all |
| 02:09.18 | sylvanaar | im poor now, i should not have gone to fry's |
| 02:09.20 | CIA-23 | 03toadkiller * r34386 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc Core.lua): |
| 02:09.20 | CIA-23 | AutoBar: |
| 02:09.20 | CIA-23 | -- Add links to Google Code Page |
| 02:09.24 | Gngsk | Wobin, http://www.wowhead.com/?object=2040 |
| 02:09.27 | hyperChipmunk | just run around the outside |
| 02:09.57 | Wobin | wow |
| 02:10.04 | Wobin | Hinterlands truly does > all |
| 02:10.47 | Toadkiller | Fry's needs feminine hygiene products so that any geek can enter for one stop shopping of all needs |
| 02:10.52 | sylvanaar | AND they speak with a jamaican accent to boot |
| 02:11.08 | Toadkiller | dont forget the drum circle |
| 02:11.09 | sylvanaar | Toadkiller no, they just need to rent rooms |
| 02:11.58 | Toadkiller | lol you are confusing the target market with people who would for example go to a bar or nightclub instead of Fry's |
| 02:12.26 | sylvanaar | i bought too much crap, i was going to buy 1 thing, i came home with a new monitor, vid card, gigabit switch and nic, mouse, and (of course) canned air |
| 02:12.32 | Toadkiller | Oh wait, do you mean you could just get a room & LIVE INSIDE fRY'S ? |
| 02:12.36 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 02:13.06 | Toadkiller | mmm now that has merit. Would still need to provide said missing products though |
| 02:13.39 | Wobin | canned air |
| 02:13.39 | Wobin | It's such a ripoff |
| 02:13.40 | Toadkiller | + 24 access for emergencies |
| 02:13.40 | Wobin | yet so amusing |
| 02:13.45 | Toadkiller | *hour |
| 02:13.45 | sylvanaar | lol, i like to spray it on my cat |
| 02:14.24 | Toadkiller | I spray it on my comp every year but then vacuum in there to reverse the flow & cancel it all out |
| 02:14.25 | sylvanaar | i have been looking for a small air compressor that would do the same thing |
| 02:15.15 | sylvanaar | man, i bought an 8800gtx |
| 02:15.34 | sylvanaar | why did i do that |
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| 02:15.47 | Wobin | insanity? |
| 02:16.33 | sylvanaar | i bought a 24" panel, so i wanted a new card..but the card was about the same price as the panel |
| 02:16.42 | Aliyahh | www.fxtrademaker.com WOW ..!!!! |
| 02:16.53 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*n=info@124.29.253.234] by vhaarr |
| 02:16.53 | *** kick/#wowace [Aliyahh!i=folk@ghybel696.krs.hia.no] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 02:17.10 | Wobin | woo |
| 02:17.11 | sylvanaar | yeah, i like forex trading |
| 02:17.20 | sylvanaar | but i hate spammers |
| 02:19.52 | sylvanaar | holy shit, this card is huge |
| 02:20.40 | sylvanaar | its like 4 normal video cards |
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| 02:21.56 | sylvanaar | lol and you can run 2 in SLI configuration |
| 02:22.45 | Diao | lol |
| 02:22.51 | Diao | 8800 ultra is being released |
| 02:22.56 | Diao | it's a gtx on crack |
| 02:23.08 | sylvanaar | its out already |
| 02:23.20 | sylvanaar | its overclocked gtx |
| 02:23.27 | Diao | i thought it wasn't out until may 15 |
| 02:23.28 | Diao | o_O |
| 02:24.17 | sylvanaar | i didnt read that closely, let me see |
| 02:24.55 | Wobin | and how much for this? |
| 02:25.17 | sylvanaar | i paid over 600 for my card |
| 02:27.13 | Funkeh` | nymbia: you seen the latest added to wowhead? |
| 02:27.47 | Funkeh` | nymbia: some retard went and added the temporary ptr items, apparently from 'Imprevious' /sigh |
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| 02:27.52 | sylvanaar | market price is 550 |
| 02:28.43 | sylvanaar | ill probably order one online and return the one i bought at fry's |
| 02:29.01 | JoshBorke | hey! they added the boxes! |
| 02:29.05 | Kaydeethree | meh, considering "nearly every level 70 epic item in the game is in the process of being updated" according to Kalagan, it's not like all 3 data collection sites aren't going to need updates anyway |
| 02:29.11 | Diao | frys has a return policy now? |
| 02:29.18 | sylvanaar | ywa |
| 02:29.22 | Diao | oh |
| 02:29.29 | Diao | iirc they didn't allow returns when they first opened |
| 02:29.33 | Diao | so i never went there lol |
| 02:29.36 | sylvanaar | they do now |
| 02:29.40 | sylvanaar | no restock |
| 02:29.44 | Diao | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30918 |
| 02:29.46 | Diao | holy |
| 02:30.01 | Diao | i'm surprised they're still giving spellcrit instead of mp5 |
| 02:30.11 | sylvanaar | they should just match the price i get from the online retailer - they would save money in the long run |
| 02:30.58 | CIA-23 | 03Octane666 * r34387 10SpamMeNot/ (Locale-enUS.lua Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc readme.txt): |
| 02:30.58 | CIA-23 | SpamMeNot: |
| 02:30.58 | CIA-23 | - Now compatible with Cellular |
| 02:30.58 | CIA-23 | - New method to detect GM messages immediately. |
| 02:30.58 | CIA-23 | - If a who look up times out then the messages held in the queue for that sender are removed. |
| 02:31.20 | sylvanaar | the whole point of in-store purchasing is in-store returns, otherwise dont go in the store |
| 02:32.05 | sylvanaar | can someone tell me why all the good mice are wireless? |
| 02:32.22 | pastamancer | they're not |
| 02:32.26 | pastamancer | I love my MX518 |
| 02:32.43 | sylvanaar | the wireless mice are generally nicer |
| 02:32.53 | pastamancer | and heavier :( |
| 02:32.58 | sylvanaar | and STUPID |
| 02:32.59 | NightHawkTheSane | and wireless :( |
| 02:33.02 | pastamancer | yes |
| 02:33.09 | Diao | they're not |
| 02:33.11 | Diao | i use a g5 |
| 02:33.34 | NightHawkTheSane | no, im pretty sure wireless mice are, in fact, wireless :p |
| 02:33.36 | Kaydeethree | I <3 my wireless setup. take my keyboard with me to bed when I'm watching stuff before I fall asleep |
| 02:33.45 | sylvanaar | i want a mouse that functions WITH my ACPI bios |
| 02:34.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i want a mouse thats not going to die on me because i forgot batteries |
| 02:34.44 | pastamancer | I want a mouse that doesn't weigh twice as much as it should :p |
| 02:35.09 | sylvanaar | i hate all non-acpi friendly hardware, but i hvae this new mouse because my hand does not hurt when using it |
| 02:35.59 | pastamancer | I had a wireless mighty mouse for a bit at work, but aside from the side button being horrible, it just weighed too much because of the batteries |
| 02:36.24 | Andune | I want a chip in my brain so I don't need a mouse. |
| 02:36.34 | sylvanaar | i have a bluetooth mouse somewhere, the dongle broke |
| 02:36.42 | pastamancer | that sounds painful |
| 02:36.49 | sylvanaar | USB power |
| 02:37.05 | sylvanaar | dont get me started on that topic |
| 02:37.14 | pastamancer | I'm trying to make a dongle joke here |
| 02:37.27 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:37.41 | sylvanaar | and all the shitty southbridges that i have fried |
| 02:38.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd probably cry if this mouse died. |
| 02:38.13 | sylvanaar | meh |
| 02:38.46 | sylvanaar | i like the MS mouses better, just they make the best ones wireless |
| 02:38.57 | sylvanaar | which then makes them suck |
| 02:39.34 | Wobin | I have the MS wireless laser mouse 5000 |
| 02:39.38 | Wobin | it's pretty good |
| 02:39.49 | sylvanaar | wireless? |
| 02:39.58 | sylvanaar | cause thats the one i just bought |
| 02:40.22 | sylvanaar | to replace the POS laser mouse 6000 which hurts my hand |
| 02:40.26 | pastamancer | I love the way my MX518 is slanted on the top, much more comfortable than those flat mice |
| 02:41.03 | hyperChipmunk | i'd tell you what i use, but it's so used-in that there's no writing left |
| 02:41.06 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: yeah, the 510 is the same basic deign, its great |
| 02:41.45 | hyperChipmunk | it's a trackball, and the recessed area underneath with the writing is even rubbed away |
| 02:41.51 | Diao | g5 is similar too |
| 02:42.09 | pastamancer | I never caught trackball fever |
| 02:42.37 | NightHawkTheSane | one of my friends back in college kept raving about trackballs. *shrug* |
| 02:42.44 | sylvanaar | trackball ppl make me laugh |
| 02:42.48 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/articles.pl?show=16 |
| 02:43.03 | sylvanaar | dammit, this mouse is too small |
| 02:43.15 | hyperChipmunk | the trackman marble |
| 02:43.41 | hyperChipmunk | i pray mine never breaks |
| 02:43.49 | hyperChipmunk | because i know i'll never be able to buy another |
| 02:44.11 | hyperChipmunk | hehe funny review |
| 02:44.15 | sylvanaar | lol, when i hit the zoom key it zooms in infinitely |
| 02:44.30 | nymbia | trackballs are pain. |
| 02:44.46 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34388 10LittleWigs/Coilfang/Kalithresh.lua: |
| 02:44.46 | CIA-23 | LittleWigs: Coilfang/Kalithresh: |
| 02:44.46 | CIA-23 | - fix channeling, need channeling end trigger or something |
| 02:48.26 | hyperChipmunk | honestly, i've never had a more perfect input device |
| 02:48.32 | hyperChipmunk | call me a weirdo, i don't care |
| 02:48.35 | hyperChipmunk | everyone does |
| 02:48.55 | hugo | ~seen rophy |
| 02:49.00 | purl | rophy is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 2m 10s) #wowace (2h 2m 10s) #wowwiki (2h 2m 10s), last said: 'hm'. |
| 02:49.08 | hyperChipmunk | but until you've actually tried the TrackMan, you are noob 2 me |
| 02:49.18 | hugo | hm |
| 02:49.30 | hugo | ;) |
| 02:50.33 | hyperChipmunk | and not those new ones either |
| 02:50.46 | ZealotOnAStick | The old Trackman Marble was nice. |
| 02:50.59 | hyperChipmunk | IS nice |
| 02:51.00 | ZealotOnAStick | But I'm fond of my MX1000 |
| 02:51.04 | rophy | hi hugo |
| 02:51.05 | hyperChipmunk | *hug* |
| 02:51.19 | hyperChipmunk | he didn't mean that, trackman |
| 02:51.21 | hugo | hey rophy |
| 02:51.28 | hyperChipmunk | he still thinks you're nice |
| 02:51.42 | NightHawkTheSane | we still think you're crazy, hyperChipmunk |
| 02:51.46 | hugo | i got some personal request about one of your addon if you in mood ;> |
| 02:52.08 | rophy | sure, what are they? |
| 02:52.23 | sylvanaar | this mouse doenst scroll for shit |
| 02:52.58 | sylvanaar | i tried a trackman like 10 years ago i think |
| 02:53.29 | hugo | Simple unit frames, i like them, tho i miss one think that would make em perfect for 'me' but don't know if it's problem or not, the middle text for hp/mana if it would be possible to add check 'mouseover' so i see on right 100% and if i mouseover my player frame i see the numbers at hp/mana if you see what i mean :-o |
| 02:54.40 | rophy | hmm |
| 02:55.04 | sylvanaar | are you still thinking of modifying simple combat log rophy? |
| 02:55.43 | rophy | i'm planning to do a complete rewrite, but dont have much free time currently. |
| 02:56.09 | *** join/#wowace Antiarc (n=Chris@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:56.34 | Antiarc | Evening folks |
| 02:57.00 | hugo | i see, well i really like it as it's simple for someone for who don't want futuristic ui, but sometimes like in raid you can see bad own hp cause the numbers, so the % on right are perfect for me, but sometime i want see my actual hp too, for that the mouseover on the hp/mana would be nice :) |
| 02:57.44 | rophy | having hp on middle and % on the right doesn't work for you? |
| 02:58.39 | hugo | exactly, im too used to the colored bars :S |
| 02:58.59 | hugo | well, was just a question, someome prefer see numbers all time, someone mouseover |
| 02:59.28 | Roartindon | hugo: hmm.. interesting idea, I can see the appeal |
| 02:59.37 | Roartindon | Trying to think if I can make Aloft do something similar |
| 02:59.43 | Roartindon | without it being a huge drain on resources |
| 03:00.00 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-TrackMan-Marble-Wheel-Mac/dp/B00004L8IG >8\ |
| 03:00.01 | Roartindon | Since I can't hook OnEnter/OnLeave |
| 03:00.14 | rophy | hmmm I'll see what I can do. |
| 03:00.38 | hugo | thanks for considering , rophy :> |
| 03:00.52 | hugo | if it's the right word lol im poor english~~ |
| 03:01.03 | hyperChipmunk | "1 used & new available from $199.99" |
| 03:01.04 | rophy | :) |
| 03:01.07 | sylvanaar | rophy, well, itd be super fantastic if when you rewrite it, you make it mesh with Prat/PratPlugin-1.0, so it could be chatframe independant |
| 03:01.24 | hyperChipmunk | if mine ever breaks, i'll need to pay $200 to replace it >8*( |
| 03:01.26 | rophy | what does PratPlugin-1.0 do? |
| 03:01.38 | hyperChipmunk | and to think i dismantled it a few months ago and almost didn't get it back together |
| 03:02.13 | sylvanaar | prat module mixin |
| 03:02.18 | hugo | Roartindon well yes, on all the new unit frames like aguf,pitbull etc etc every of the have Name + HPnumber in hpbar, witch makes the hp bar barely visible 'i mean the actuall hp based on the bar status' who got time to read number in fight, right? no one. ;> |
| 03:03.14 | Antiarc | ~seen TheKarn |
| 03:03.42 | purl | thekarn is currently on #wowace (2d 10h 13m 46s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 1d 5h 35m 40s, last said: 'sylvanaar, it alreadyis shit'. |
| 03:03.42 | hugo | Roartindon and sorry but what is Aloft ? :O |
| 03:03.45 | sylvanaar | Dreamchat uses it to support prat as the text renderer for the dreamchat frames |
| 03:03.52 | sylvanaar | optionally of course |
| 03:04.42 | rophy | hmm, still not sure what it actually does. |
| 03:04.43 | hugo | ahh replacement nameplates i see |
| 03:04.49 | Antiarc | Hahah, wow |
| 03:04.49 | Antiarc | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/visa/ |
| 03:04.53 | Antiarc | Didn't see that coming |
| 03:05.19 | sylvanaar | it provides a way to get a formatted chat line to display on the dreamchat frames (thats what dreamchat uses it for) |
| 03:05.24 | hugo | Roartindon so Aloft is skins replacement |
| 03:05.39 | rophy | all SimpleCombatLog does to the chatframe is ChatFrame:AddMessage(), in this case how does SCL interacts with Prat? |
| 03:06.08 | sylvanaar | Prat supports non-blizzard chatframes |
| 03:06.23 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i want my 'rewards' in the form of phat epix, plz |
| 03:06.30 | *** join/#wowace CAL|Smeltn (n=smeltn@adsl-224-2-201.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:06.35 | CAL|Smeltn | good evening all |
| 03:06.38 | Kirkburn | People seen the new WoW Visa credit card? |
| 03:06.41 | kenlyric | for metas... do you need to meet the requirement to equip them, or for them to work? |
| 03:06.48 | Kirkburn | (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/visa/) |
| 03:06.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao, Wobin: in case you're wondering, the cake is FAAAAAANTASTIC. |
| 03:06.53 | sylvanaar | what i am saying is if you piggyback that support, so would SCL |
| 03:07.00 | Antiarc | Kirkburn: Look up 10 lines |
| 03:07.01 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's featured on the launcher |
| 03:07.09 | hugo | what a wow VISA? that's too much :D |
| 03:07.12 | CAL|Smeltn | quick question.. I can not find a link to a Guild Tabard Builder.. one that I can link to others in the guild so they can see my design.. Anyone know where I can find this? |
| 03:07.17 | Kirkburn | Antiarc, lol |
| 03:07.17 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: yaay, whta sort ofc ae? |
| 03:07.25 | Antiarc | So I finally got around to signing for rupture. It's pretty cool, actually. |
| 03:07.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: just a basic dark chocolate cake not fancy or anything. |
| 03:08.06 | Diao | :o |
| 03:08.12 | Diao | i shall try olive oil sometime then |
| 03:08.41 | CAL|Smeltn | quick question.. I can not find a link to a Guild Tabard Builder.. one that I can link to others in the guild so they can see my design.. Anyone know where I can find this? |
| 03:08.52 | NightHawkTheSane | well i wouldn't go so far as to say the olive oil made it significantly better, but it certainly did no harm |
| 03:08.55 | Diao | curse has one i think |
| 03:09.08 | Diao | unless you mean ingame |
| 03:09.15 | Diao | in which case i don't think one exists |
| 03:09.24 | CAL|Smeltn | no I just want a tabard builder, that I can create a good design |
| 03:09.28 | CAL|Smeltn | and then link it to others to see |
| 03:09.45 | hugo | is the visa international? everyone can get it? |
| 03:09.59 | rophy | sylvanaar: I want to see exactly what PratPlugin-1.0 provides first... still not very understand after reading http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PratPlugin-1.0 |
| 03:10.00 | Diao | US only it seems |
| 03:10.04 | Diao | it's funded by a US bank |
| 03:10.13 | sylvanaar | just look at dreamchat |
| 03:10.16 | hugo | yeah i see now, select state, gg.. ;p |
| 03:10.36 | rophy | it mainly provides the :GetExternalMessageTable() which has Prat-parsed-tokens? |
| 03:11.17 | rophy | checking |
| 03:11.34 | sylvanaar | thats 1 thing it does, then it provides an api to get a formatted line of text from that table |
| 03:11.38 | hugo | im off, night |
| 03:12.09 | rophy | SimpleCombatLog reformats the combat logs and Prat reformats regular chats, I don't think SCL will ever use any of the regular chat tokens? |
| 03:12.42 | sylvanaar | rophy thats fine, Prat's system is extensible, you can add new tokens |
| 03:13.21 | Wobin | hm |
| 03:13.21 | rophy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.27 | Wobin | do I farm for mithrli |
| 03:13.37 | Wobin | or grind xp in tbc adn sell junk and buy mithril? |
| 03:13.41 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, directory commentary on garden state is rather nice. |
| 03:13.48 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 03:14.16 | rophy | when will a combat log reformatter wants to touch regular messages? |
| 03:14.30 | sylvanaar | timestamps and other adornments |
| 03:14.53 | rophy | Prat should work fine with SCL for 'extra tokens' such as timestamps? |
| 03:15.05 | rophy | and in that case SCL still doesn't need to touch the timestamps. |
| 03:15.31 | sylvanaar | yeah, what but, it would all have to pass through the same api |
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| 03:16.19 | rophy | hmm.... Prat parses ChatFrame:AddMessage for the CHAT_* events, right? |
| 03:16.51 | sylvanaar | im saying why not collaborate on a shared system, because you could for instance leverage prat's player name formatting |
| 03:17.14 | sylvanaar | rophy no |
| 03:17.38 | sylvanaar | rophy prat works at ChatFrame_MessageEventHandelr |
| 03:17.41 | rophy | collaboration is a good thing, I'm just trying to understand the exact gains/loses before I actually add another (optional) dependency. |
| 03:18.52 | rophy | I think Prat and SCL are 2 layers which doesn't overlap. SCL parses arg1 from combat log events, and then call AddMessage; while Prat parses ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler, which at that time SCL Should already have everything done. |
| 03:19.20 | sylvanaar | right, but they could share an intermediate representation for the parsed data, and share formatters |
| 03:20.05 | rophy | unless Prat also parses combat log, i'm not sure what data can be shared? |
| 03:20.34 | rophy | SCL will not even attempt to touch regular chat messages, by definition. |
| 03:21.12 | sylvanaar | you are thinking specically, and i am speaking generically |
| 03:21.34 | rophy | hmm, I need an example which SCL can use the parsed token from Prat? |
| 03:21.46 | sylvanaar | not the token |
| 03:21.50 | sylvanaar | the formatter |
| 03:22.07 | sylvanaar | for example you have a player name in the combat log |
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| 03:22.20 | rophy | hmm... |
| 03:22.44 | sylvanaar | think generic formatters |
| 03:23.59 | rophy | I'd like a more concrete example for using PratPlugin-1.0 in SCL. |
| 03:24.00 | ZealotOnAStick | personally, I think SCL works fabulous as is. |
| 03:24.16 | rophy | what methods in PratPlugin-1.0 do I use for SCL? |
| 03:25.01 | sylvanaar | its really the system of representing the chat line as a table, and then firing an event to let the formatters have a crack at it, that i'd like you to consider |
| 03:30.15 | rophy | I understand your idea, SCL has its own 'table of tokens' and 'formatter', but the tokens are so different (except may be player names), that I'm not sure how can Prat's formatter handle SCL's tokens. |
| 03:30.16 | rophy | so I think I need a more concrete example... |
| 03:30.20 | sylvanaar | currently SCL and prat dont actually work "together" |
| 03:30.22 | rophy | they dont work together, they work in 2 layers, with unoverlapped Blizzard events. |
| 03:30.22 | sylvanaar | not true |
| 03:30.24 | sylvanaar | prat processes every line of text on the chatframes |
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| 03:30.27 | rophy | even the combat logs? |
| 03:30.27 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 03:30.27 | sylvanaar | it doesnt parse them |
| 03:30.28 | sylvanaar | but it processes them |
| 03:30.28 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34389 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 03:30.28 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - renamed typemana => typepower. typemana is now an alias to typepower. |
| 03:30.29 | CIA-23 | - added ispowertype(arg), where arg is rage, focus, energy, or mana. |
| 03:30.29 | CIA-23 | - added israge, alias to ispowertype(rage) |
| 03:30.29 | CIA-23 | - added isfocus, alias to ispowertype(focus) |
| 03:30.30 | Roartindon | hugo: Sorry, was afk |
| 03:30.30 | CIA-23 | - added ismana, alias to ispowertype(mana) |
| 03:30.30 | CIA-23 | - added isenerggy alias to ispowertype(energy) |
| 03:30.31 | rophy | such as? |
| 03:30.31 | rophy | adding timestamps etc? |
| 03:30.32 | Roartindon | adding timestamps, coloring it, adding event names if it's selected, etc. |
| 03:31.20 | rophy | and which one among those doesn't work for plain ChatFrame:AddMessage() ? |
| 03:31.20 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34390 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - typo |
| 03:31.20 | Roartindon | hugo: No, it's not just skinning replacement, Aloft actually does do non-trivial processing |
| 03:31.24 | sylvanaar | im trying to get you to not use Chatframe:AddMessage basically |
| 03:31.46 | rophy | I understand that, but I'm trying to understand what does SCL actually gain for not using ChatFrame:AddMessage(). |
| 03:32.04 | rophy | or, what exactly does Prat loses for SCL not using ChatFrame:AddMessage()? |
| 03:32.10 | sylvanaar | independance from the chatframe |
| 03:32.23 | sylvanaar | Prat loses nothing |
| 03:32.43 | rophy | Prat works for chatframes without a AddMessage method? |
| 03:33.21 | sylvanaar | it can |
| 03:33.53 | sylvanaar | dreamchat is an example |
| 03:34.19 | sylvanaar | prat has no hooks on those frames |
| 03:34.30 | rophy | hmm |
| 03:34.55 | syeren | Hmm. |
| 03:35.00 | syeren | They made Night Elf Boobs smaller on PTR. |
| 03:35.27 | syeren | And made Dwarf Female Shoulders HUUUUUGE. |
| 03:35.27 | sylvanaar | im saying, it'd be cool if we could bring our implementations in line so that we could use the same messsage table |
| 03:35.39 | theoddone33 | smaller boobs? |
| 03:35.47 | theoddone33 | I wonder how that will be stated in the changelog |
| 03:35.49 | wobin | *sigh* |
| 03:35.50 | syeren | Yup ;p |
| 03:35.52 | wobin | *bouncebounce* |
| 03:35.58 | syeren | Wobin. |
| 03:36.01 | syeren | They still bounce all over. |
| 03:36.03 | syeren | Looks stupid. |
| 03:36.18 | Kaydeethree | lol at the 6624-6641 PTR patch |
| 03:36.19 | rophy | hmm, I'll check what things are inside Prat table first |
| 03:36.23 | Kaydeethree | "Size: 6.66MB" |
| 03:36.31 | theoddone33 | "Fixed a graphical issue that caused some characters to look more sexy than intended." |
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| 03:36.42 | rophy | is there any documentation about that? (the table tokens) |
| 03:36.50 | syeren | Look how dumb I look now with the shoulders : http://fabrikate.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_050407_043122.jpg |
| 03:36.52 | syeren | --- |
| 03:37.02 | rophy | or do I have to read through several addons? |
| 03:37.03 | sylvanaar | Prat.lua Prat.SplitMsgIdx |
| 03:37.10 | rophy | k |
| 03:37.25 | CIA-23 | 03antiarc * r34391 10SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.lua: SanityItemCache: Fixed a bug that prevented tooltips from being scanned. |
| 03:37.30 | sylvanaar | its just an ordered list of field names |
| 03:37.48 | rophy | that should work. |
| 03:37.59 | sylvanaar | prat builds the chat lines using concat() |
| 03:38.48 | rophy | er.. where is SplitMsgIdx? |
| 03:39.11 | rophy | can't find that in Prat.lua |
| 03:39.33 | sylvanaar | 1201 |
| 03:39.45 | sylvanaar | sorry, wrong name |
| 03:39.50 | rophy | SplitMessageSrc @@ |
| 03:40.26 | sylvanaar | 1370 |
| 03:40.32 | sylvanaar | there it is |
| 03:41.44 | rophy | any more description other than Cc, cC, sS, Ss? :p |
| 03:42.43 | sylvanaar | the word in the middle of them |
| 03:42.53 | pastamancer | rophy: haha, I complained about that too |
| 03:42.56 | sylvanaar | cC CHANNEL Cc |
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| 03:44.31 | rophy | Prat:SplitChatMessage() is the one to build the tokens? |
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| 03:46.15 | sylvanaar | plus i can refer to cC and Cc using :lower() |
| 03:47.58 | rophy | hmm, so in your mind how do you plan to make SCL and Prat use the same message token table? |
| 03:48.10 | rophy | SCL probably can use almost nothing in those tokens, may be only PLAYERLINK. |
| 03:48.46 | rophy | making the name tokens in SCL works for right click menu is a benefit though. |
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| 03:49.16 | rophy | i.e. if Prat can make it possible. |
| 03:49.22 | Sole | good day |
| 03:50.46 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34392 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Pathaleon.lua: LittleWigs: TempestKeep/Pathaleon: cleanup |
| 03:50.53 | Roartindon | hmm... could the Prat processing be made more efficient by pre-building a module order list, each module called in order adding to a table, then table.concatting the result to form the message? |
| 03:51.06 | sylvanaar | rophy it can, if you look prat uses that index to iterate through the actual message table, so you could pass a table with your own tokens in it and prat would ignore them |
| 03:51.26 | sylvanaar | Roartindon there is no need for ordering because modules can add a field to the index table |
| 03:51.46 | rophy | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 03:52.25 | sylvanaar | the index table is used to traverse the actual message table in order |
| 03:53.07 | Roartindon | Oh.. BuildChatText |
| 03:53.07 | sylvanaar | see buildchattext at 1007 |
| 03:53.27 | rophy | So I have a formatted combat log "A hits B for 100.", what should the table look like when I pass it to Prat? |
| 03:54.32 | sylvanaar | well, one option is to call RegisterChatSection |
| 03:54.56 | sylvanaar | and then put your formatted line in that field |
| 03:55.07 | kergoth | glad i switched from the last release Rep2 to the one in wowace svn, this one is actually readable. yay for better color choices |
| 03:55.25 | Garoun | double defender pulls on heroic slave pens are brutal |
| 03:55.27 | sylvanaar | that would prevent prats modules from touching it |
| 03:55.42 | rophy | what does RegisterChatSection do? |
| 03:55.49 | rophy | oh |
| 03:55.52 | sylvanaar | inserts a field into the index |
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| 03:56.36 | CIA-23 | AutoBar: |
| 03:56.36 | CIA-23 | -- Add links to Google Code Project Page |
| 03:56.59 | rophy | ok... so there is "cC" "CHANNEL" "Cc", in the table, and Prat formats the message by concating those? |
| 03:57.08 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 03:57.36 | sylvanaar | the values in those fields of the message table |
| 03:58.09 | rophy | um..... |
| 03:58.32 | sylvanaar | if you run prat, turn on debug, and enable the SPLIT subsystem you can see it in action |
| 03:58.43 | rophy | SCL use string.format for out-of-order tokens. e.g. "%2$s hits $1$s for %3$d.", "B", "A", 100 |
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| 03:58.58 | rophy | now do I pass the "A" and "B" to prat in this case? |
| 03:59.22 | Sole | am I just bad or doesnt UNIT_HEALTH event fire for partyNtarget units? |
| 03:59.34 | Roartindon | Sole: it won't fire |
| 03:59.39 | rophy | s/now/how/ |
| 03:59.40 | Roartindon | only for player/party/target/focus/raid |
| 03:59.57 | Sole | Roartindon: thanks, you just saved me a lot of time |
| 04:00.04 | sylvanaar | you can do it any way you want. keeping things separate is so that modules can operate on different parts without messing each other up |
| 04:00.27 | Sole | Roartindon: so the only real way to check an enemy's health without having him targeted is syncing with party? |
| 04:00.51 | Roartindon | Sole: Or poll it periodically |
| 04:00.57 | sylvanaar | if your string is already formatted then you just pass it all in one field |
| 04:00.58 | Roartindon | aguf called them Metro frames |
| 04:01.02 | Roartindon | pitBull calls them Wacky frames |
| 04:01.11 | rophy | then I can't make player names clickable, isn't it? |
| 04:01.19 | Roartindon | ie. check them 5 times a second, and update if they've changed |
| 04:01.38 | Sole | well they are enemies in the arena |
| 04:01.55 | rophy | currently the only possible benefits I see for using Prat is making player names clickable. |
| 04:01.56 | Sole | its probably better to simply sync it |
| 04:02.01 | hyperChipmunk | metro frames because Metrognome was our pre-Ace2 repeating-function library, before AceEvent took over the functionality with ScheduleRepeatingEvent |
| 04:02.09 | Sole | I love sticky chat in Prat |
| 04:02.11 | Sole | for whispers |
| 04:02.42 | rophy | I mean using Prat's functionalities in SCL |
| 04:03.39 | sylvanaar | rophy, im saying that even if you dont use any of prats modules, someone who uses prat to get formatted text in dreamchat couls also get SCL text |
| 04:04.05 | rophy | hmm.... |
| 04:04.16 | rophy | yes that is a gain too. |
| 04:04.58 | rophy | any screenshot for DreamChat? |
| 04:05.20 | sylvanaar | i think theres one on the prat thread and on the talk page |
| 04:05.24 | kergoth | dreamchat seems nice, but it doesnt like me :( |
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| 04:06.16 | CIA-23 | SpellBinder: |
| 04:06.16 | CIA-23 | - Updated locale koKR |
| 04:06.27 | rophy | um.... DreamChatTemplate frames are ScrollingMessageFrame |
| 04:06.36 | rophy | and so it uses AddMessage too, doesn't it? |
| 04:06.51 | sylvanaar | rophy i know, but it has its own internals |
| 04:07.09 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34395 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Laj.lua: LittleWigs: TempestKeep/Laj: making use of :format |
| 04:08.12 | sylvanaar | instead of me drawing on the frames, dreamchat asks me for formatted text, and it draws it |
| 04:08.37 | rophy | hmm I see |
| 04:09.49 | sylvanaar | it could just as easily put the text on a tablet |
| 04:10.09 | sylvanaar | or in ScrollingCombatText |
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| 04:11.50 | rophy | for PratPlugin-1.0, do I actively add my messages to Prat, or I get the table from Prat passively and modify it? |
| 04:12.08 | rophy | i.e. does it work for arbitary plugin events? |
| 04:12.39 | rophy | e.g. I want to print a message when there is no blizzard event at all (so Prat will not have a token table exists) |
| 04:12.44 | sylvanaar | right, i was getting to that |
| 04:13.34 | rophy | you mean it's not currently possible but will be? |
| 04:14.47 | sylvanaar | prat doesnt initiate any drawing of text itself |
| 04:15.04 | rophy | but I saw it is parsing event types? |
| 04:15.11 | sylvanaar | the frames do |
| 04:15.39 | rophy | and when the frame have no message at all and I want to add a message? |
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| 04:16.48 | CIA-23 | Antagonist: |
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| 04:17.21 | sylvanaar | the details of that case would need to be worked out. because thats hard to abstract since you are acting as an event source |
| 04:19.01 | sylvanaar | prat works by request really, in the blizzard frame case those frames are already going to add text |
| 04:19.33 | rophy | hmm.. |
| 04:20.46 | sylvanaar | when you write on a frame directly it doesnt get the same treatment as if you were to register an event for the frame to handle |
| 04:21.12 | sylvanaar | which i think is the solution to the problem |
| 04:21.58 | sylvanaar | just register a CHAT_MSG_ type for SCL |
| 04:22.53 | Sole | sweet |
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| 04:26.21 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_your_own_chat_types |
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| 04:29.35 | rophy | synvanaar: DreamChat use GetExternalMessageTable() to get the table, process it, and then display it. If SCL also use GetExternalMessageTable() and insert the formatted combat log, how do I guarantee that DreamChat is processed after SCL, so that it will obtain the SCL modified table ? |
| 04:30.57 | sylvanaar | rophy thats the part that we'd need to design together |
| 04:31.28 | rophy | I think Prat had 3 stages like pre-processing, on-processing and post-processing, but I don't see that in DreamChat? |
| 04:32.48 | sylvanaar | if you are a formatter you can listen to prat's events and add to the table |
| 04:33.01 | sylvanaar | dreamchat is a frame so it supplies the table |
| 04:33.12 | sylvanaar | 2 roles |
| 04:33.54 | rophy | for the DreamChat case, all SCL really need to do is DreamChat:AddMessage(formattedCombatLog) actually... |
| 04:34.34 | sylvanaar | yep, but that bypasses dreamchat's internal logic |
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| 04:36.08 | sylvanaar | if you instead registered CHAT_MSG_SCL with dreamchat, and generated that event all would be well i think |
| 04:37.01 | sylvanaar | same for bliz frames |
| 04:37.50 | rophy | then SCL doesn't even need to touch PratPlugin-1.0 :p |
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| 04:39.42 | sylvanaar | SCL would only need pratplugin if it was a frame or a formatter |
| 04:39.55 | rophy | it is a formatter, but seems it cannot use any of the PratPlugin tokens. |
| 04:40.09 | rophy | since Prat doesn't parse combat logs and SCL doesn't parse regular chats. |
| 04:40.39 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: care to diff the latest PTR patch since you rock so much at it? |
| 04:40.41 | vhaarr | :P |
| 04:41.29 | haste | is that another way of saying you can't be arsed yourself : p ? |
| 04:41.37 | vhaarr | sshh |
| 04:42.07 | Sole | nymbia: ping |
| 04:42.13 | sylvanaar | but you can reuse the design, in which case i could try to add some type of token->module registry for expandability |
| 04:42.57 | nymbia | Sole: pong |
| 04:43.03 | rophy | ya, SCL can probably reuse the design, so I wanted to learn something from Prat. |
| 04:43.09 | Sole | nymbia: need some advice |
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| 04:43.37 | Sole | nymbia: to track enemy health in the arena, do you think it would be better to simply send sync messages? |
| 04:43.51 | Sole | nymbia: or would it be better to periodically scan partyNtarget units and grab that health? |
| 04:44.01 | nymbia | hmm.. |
| 04:44.10 | nymbia | scan party targets, i'd say. |
| 04:44.26 | nymbia | wont get updates for some units sometimes |
| 04:44.35 | nymbia | but that's not a very big deal |
| 04:44.40 | rophy | there are basically 3 stages: parse, format, display. for the case of SCL, ParserLib is the parser and SCL is the formatter, ChatFrame:AddMessage is the only display needed. |
| 04:44.43 | Sole | scanning party targets also has the benefit of working on party members who dont have an arena helper |
| 04:44.53 | nymbia | yeah |
| 04:45.18 | rophy | and currently SCL cannot use Prat's parser, and formatter too since the formatting process is too different (SCL cannot simply concat tokens). |
| 04:45.19 | Sole | however, the health of enemies in arenas is of vital importance |
| 04:45.35 | Sole | so I'll have to scan frequently, thats the only real drawback I can see right now |
| 04:46.04 | nymbia | once or twice a second should be good |
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| 04:46.15 | Sole | hmmrf |
| 04:46.16 | nymbia | be pretty fast, too |
| 04:46.17 | sylvanaar | why cant it? how many different forms are there? |
| 04:46.39 | rophy | you mean the parser or formatter? |
| 04:46.44 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:46.46 | Sole | I'll try it with once a second, see if its updating fast nuff |
| 04:46.48 | Sole | hi ck |
| 04:46.49 | nymbia | hey ckknight |
| 04:46.51 | rophy | parser because two parse unoverlapped things. |
| 04:47.07 | rophy | formatter because SCL use string.format to support out of order tokens. |
| 04:47.12 | Sole | ck, I had a look at silverlight, it looks pretty cool |
| 04:47.29 | ckknight | we'll see how it turns out all in all |
| 04:48.12 | Sole | yeah, not getting my hopes up |
| 04:48.36 | Sole | my friend is completely untrusting of it already -_- |
| 04:48.45 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:48.49 | ckknight | cause it's "Microsoft" |
| 04:48.49 | Sole | damn skeptic |
| 04:48.51 | ckknight | and therefore evil |
| 04:48.56 | Sole | ^ correct |
| 04:48.59 | sylvanaar | well, you can have more fields in the index than you actually use like f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,f6 and {"you", nil, "hit", nil, "vharr" } |
| 04:49.02 | ckknight | really, their technology really is pretty cool |
| 04:49.16 | ckknight | a lot of cool stuff comes out of there |
| 04:49.20 | ckknight | like Singularity |
| 04:49.24 | Sole | "fuck, now we can get viruses just by looking at a wep page" |
| 04:49.25 | ckknight | and stuff like Comega |
| 04:49.32 | ckknight | Sole: um, no. |
| 04:49.35 | Sole | never heard of those |
| 04:49.41 | Sole | ckknight: yeah I know, thats what he said |
| 04:49.50 | Sole | ckknight: hence the quotations |
| 04:49.52 | sylvanaar | and { nil, "vharr", "hit", "you", nil } |
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| 04:50.03 | rophy | for the formatter, I cannot simply concat "you", nil, "hit", SCL need to support "%2$s hits $1%s for $3%d" |
| 04:50.07 | ckknight | Comega is C# with a lot of very cool extensions |
| 04:50.36 | Sole | ooh |
| 04:50.38 | ckknight | http://research.microsoft.com/Comega/ |
| 04:50.45 | ckknight | Singularity is a completely managed kernel. |
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| 04:52.43 | sylvanaar | wait why could you have fields like actor, action, subject, damage |
| 04:53.04 | sylvanaar | and just set them to whatever |
| 04:53.16 | rophy | what do you mean? |
| 04:53.21 | ckknight | http://research.microsoft.com/os/singularity/ |
| 04:53.42 | rophy | where do I get the tokens? |
| 04:54.04 | Sole | ckknight: reading about singularity now |
| 04:54.04 | sylvanaar | replace your %2$ with 'fieldname1' then put the value in message.fieldname1 |
| 04:55.11 | rophy | sylvanaar: you mean instead using $2$s, I can also reorder the tokens? |
| 04:56.17 | Sole | looks fancy |
| 04:57.06 | ckknight | Sole: it's pretty cool, all in all. |
| 04:57.50 | Sole | ckknight: all in all, I only understood half of what I read but what made sense seems like theyre making some great progress in OS coding |
| 04:58.02 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 04:58.03 | sylvanaar | rophy i was assuming you had an abstract representation for actor and subject etc |
| 04:58.09 | ckknight | it won't be in their next OS, though |
| 04:58.13 | ckknight | potentially the one after that, though |
| 04:58.25 | sedatedChipmunk | ...for the purposes of patenting it all and sitting on it so nobody else can have the same ideas ever |
| 04:58.31 | Sole | dont think theyve done enough research on it to implement it in the next OS? |
| 04:58.56 | rophy | sylvanaar: I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say? |
| 04:59.29 | sylvanaar | ie { actor="foo", does_action_on = "hits", subject "bar" } |
| 05:00.02 | rophy | that's right, and so? |
| 05:01.47 | sylvanaar | so your index to concat would be "actor", "does_action_on", "something_else", "or_maybe_this", "subject" |
| 05:02.31 | sylvanaar | how many variants are there? |
| 05:02.44 | rophy | possible fields? |
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| 05:02.48 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 05:03.22 | rophy | hmm... about 10ish |
| 05:03.26 | rophy | or more |
| 05:03.29 | sylvanaar | sounds right |
| 05:04.02 | sylvanaar | you could easily make a list which had them in the right order, and just fill in the ones which apply to the current message |
| 05:05.13 | rophy | for SCL it's easier to use %2$s instead of reordering the fields, since the messages can be customized. |
| 05:05.57 | rophy | http://ace.pastey.net/21963 |
| 05:06.10 | rophy | this is what SCL currently does. |
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| 05:06.34 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
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| 05:06.35 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 05:08.35 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r34399 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:08.35 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:08.35 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 05:08.35 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34400 10Aloft/ (8 files in 4 dirs): |
| 05:08.35 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 05:08.35 | CIA-23 | - Added isTarget data. This allows text to be conditionally shown on whether a unit is the current target or not. |
| 05:09.37 | kergoth | grr, this consortium grind is a pain with my mutilate rogue. this build sucks for the zaxxis guys without blade flurry, end up vanishing too much, dying really slows down the grind... but the warbeads off the ogres in nagrand have such a crappy drop rate :( |
| 05:10.00 | NightHawkTheSane | *blinks* damn, apple's offering dual quad-core machines? |
| 05:10.16 | vhaarr | kergoth: I did it with combat for grinding that and scryers |
| 05:10.26 | vhaarr | my rogue alt has both daggers <3 |
| 05:10.29 | NightHawkTheSane | combat > * for grinding. :\ |
| 05:11.02 | kergoth | wish i had some harder hitting weapons than my current daggers for combat though, ss wont hit all that hard |
| 05:11.03 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 05:11.25 | kergoth | vhaarr: you see the new earthstorm diamond in 2.1 for rogues? |
| 05:11.28 | sylvanaar | ok, i see. well, another option is to fill in the fields, then nil them later as part of the message formatting process, im sure there is a good solution, probably best found in practice |
| 05:11.28 | vhaarr | cheap shot -> s&d -> KS -> dead |
| 05:11.44 | kergoth | +12agi +3% crit damage meta = hot |
| 05:11.51 | vhaarr | that's nice indeed |
| 05:11.55 | vhaarr | I have the run speed increase one |
| 05:12.02 | vhaarr | from spirit shards or what it is |
| 05:12.28 | kergoth | i was gonna go with that one, but a friendly jc gave me the crit rating / root resist one.. i needed all the crit i could get |
| 05:12.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:12.52 | sylvanaar | the message tables are essentially "chat message scoped" so you can store extra data in them |
| 05:12.52 | vhaarr | went to karazhan with my rogue last night, since we had 5 healers online, that was fun |
| 05:12.58 | vhaarr | #3 on damage ^^ |
| 05:13.30 | rophy | sylvanaar: if SCL cannot use Prat parser, then what's the point for trying to modify SCL to work on Prat's formatter? |
| 05:13.39 | kergoth | vhaarr: nice |
| 05:14.09 | vhaarr | yeah was fun |
| 05:15.16 | sylvanaar | so that if you work with Prat you work with any chatframe that Prat works with |
| 05:16.21 | sylvanaar | without having to support it directly in SCL |
| 05:16.26 | kergoth | is blade twisting of any use? |
| 05:16.51 | vhaarr | maybe for pvp, but useless for grinding |
| 05:17.16 | kergoth | fiured |
| 05:17.17 | kergoth | figured, even |
| 05:18.16 | rophy | sylvanaar: for that, SCL doesnt need to use Prat's formatter, it can format its own text and make a Prat table with only .MESSAGE field, right? |
| 05:18.23 | sylvanaar | yes |
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| 05:18.48 | rophy | that's better and easier than trying to modify SCL itself to use Prat's formatter I think |
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| 05:19.06 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 05:19.06 | CIA-23 | - IsTargetData now hooks ShowNameplates/ShowFriendNameplates as the alpha on the nameplates isn't accurate after they're just toggled |
| 05:19.06 | CIA-23 | - Disabling a module will call UnhookAll if it uses AceHook |
| 05:19.55 | sylvanaar | yeah, its a great start for sure |
| 05:20.21 | rophy | so if the problem of "Prat module process ordering" is solved, I can easily make an optional SCL to create a Prat table. |
| 05:21.24 | rophy | i.e. how to guarantee DreamChat receives SCL modified prat table. |
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| 05:24.22 | sylvanaar | ok, you would need to register a chat type CHAT_MSG_SCL and the dreamchat frames would need to be set to handle it. They would fill in the data in the message table and you would listen for an event to format it (the chat text could be blank) |
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| 05:24.27 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
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| 05:25.03 | sylvanaar | that method should work with any chat frame, even the blizzard ones |
| 05:27.07 | sylvanaar | this has the added advantage of letting you ignore the actual chatframe completely |
| 05:28.21 | rophy | um... |
| 05:28.31 | sylvanaar | you would be called one time for each chat frame that wanted to display your message (which you only generate 1 event for) |
| 05:28.46 | rophy | so in an combat log event, I formats the combat log and fires CHAT_MSG_SCL. |
| 05:28.56 | rophy | then DreamChat receives CHAT_MSG_SCL. |
| 05:28.56 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 05:29.11 | rophy | now what? how do SCL insert the table to Prat? |
| 05:29.44 | sylvanaar | listen for Prat_PreAddmessage or Prat_FrameMessage, and insert the text into the MESSAGE field |
| 05:30.18 | sylvanaar | the table reference is passed along with the event |
| 05:30.50 | rophy | when does Prat_PreAddMessage got fired? |
| 05:31.04 | rophy | before ChatFrame_EventMessageHandler? |
| 05:31.07 | rophy | i mean right after. |
| 05:31.15 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 05:31.54 | rophy | I don't think ChatFrame_EventMessageHandler will be fired on CHAT_MSG_SCL, until DreamChat actually calls AddMessage? |
| 05:32.22 | rophy | s/fired/called/ |
| 05:32.43 | sylvanaar | the events are always fired in either case |
| 05:33.17 | TecnoBrat | ~seen Tornhoof |
| 05:33.48 | purl | tornhoof is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 44 messages. Is idling for 10h 44m 14s, last said: 'hehe'. |
| 05:33.56 | rophy | i'm not sure what you mean, CHAT_MSG_SCL is fired, but there is no AddMessage before DreamChat, and so there is no ChatFrame_EventMessageHandler |
| 05:34.08 | sylvanaar | line 1600 |
| 05:35.40 | rophy | what does that do/ |
| 05:35.57 | sylvanaar | fires the events |
| 05:36.41 | sylvanaar | as if they came from AddMessage and MessageEventHandler hooks |
| 05:37.18 | rophy | so SCL will call PluginRenderAsChatString? |
| 05:37.30 | sylvanaar | in your case, CHAT_MSG_SCL, i just realized you would need to set message.OUTPUT, not message.MESSAGE |
| 05:38.03 | sylvanaar | no, SCL doesnt need to bother with that - that is for non-blizzard frames to call |
| 05:38.20 | rophy | so DreamChat? |
| 05:38.23 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 05:38.38 | rophy | um... so DreamChat calls PluginRenderAsChatString on CHAT_MSG_SCL. |
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| 05:38.45 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 05:39.03 | sylvanaar | so would blizzard frames |
| 05:39.03 | rophy | and PreAddMessage is fired, SCL then modifies table. |
| 05:39.06 | sylvanaar | yes |
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| 05:39.21 | rophy | hmmmm |
| 05:40.25 | rophy | this should work, although I probably won't use CHAT_MSG_SCL. |
| 05:40.53 | rophy | instead, since SCL is meant to have different configurations per chatframe. |
| 05:41.37 | sylvanaar | well, the key is that the frame should do the printing |
| 05:42.03 | rophy | ya, so it'll work, I just need to think about how to make SCL configurable on arbitary frames. |
| 05:42.14 | rophy | in this case it's not related to Prat itself. |
| 05:43.16 | sylvanaar | right |
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| 05:46.21 | rophy | okay, thanks for your help sylvanaar , I have to finish RL works first, and then I'll think about this again. |
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| 05:47.34 | sylvanaar | however prat needs its OUTPUT field filled in, this normally is done during the addmessage hook, for non-prat supporting addons, but ideally listening for the event and filling it in is the way to go |
| 05:50.16 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:50.17 | rophy | so SCL listens to PreAddMessage, fill the OUTPUT field. After that I need to figure out a way for artibary chatframes to call PluginRenderAsChatString(), custom event being one of the methods. |
| 05:51.26 | sylvanaar | Yeah, its prolly the best since it works with the blizzard frames also |
| 05:52.08 | sylvanaar | i linked the sample code from wowwikki did you see |
| 05:52.29 | rophy | ya i saw that |
| 05:54.37 | sylvanaar | also, the frame gets passes with the prat event, so you can still do per frame stuff too |
| 06:00.45 | sylvanaar | ok, im going to install this video card |
| 06:00.51 | sylvanaar | wish me luck |
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| 06:14.33 | Roartindon | periodic scan like banzai does I think |
| 06:14.42 | Roartindon | err.. ignore that.. mt |
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| 06:30.39 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34408 10Tattle/ (Gladiator_US7/US7.lua data.lua dataminer.lua): |
| 06:30.39 | CIA-23 | Tattle: |
| 06:30.39 | CIA-23 | - Update US-Rampage data, cuz I needs it. |
| 06:32.05 | ckknight | I wonder if you could write a religious text in wiki format |
| 06:32.15 | ckknight | most people just do books |
| 06:32.22 | ckknight | but this is like the new millenium, man! |
| 06:32.24 | NightHawkTheSane | you can write anything in wiki format, really. |
| 06:32.42 | dotted | religion is so last millenium! |
| 06:32.46 | ckknight | I figure it'd make cross-referencing easier |
| 06:32.49 | NightHawkTheSane | I've always thought a wikinovel would be interesting |
| 06:33.04 | ckknight | honestly, I don't think a wikinovel would fly |
| 06:33.07 | ckknight | cause novels are linear |
| 06:33.15 | ckknight | whereas religious texts are not necessarily so |
| 06:33.25 | ckknight | those are mostly a collection of short stories and ideas |
| 06:33.31 | ckknight | all bundled in one giant, boring book |
| 06:33.35 | Dynom | a wiki novel? how poetic |
| 06:34.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: not necessarily, Hypertext Fiction is already an existing genre, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_fiction |
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| 06:34.40 | NightHawkTheSane | It's those pick-your-own ending books, but online, more or less :P |
| 06:34.51 | ckknight | ah |
| 06:35.06 | ckknight | well that's nowhere near a normal novel format. |
| 06:35.27 | ckknight | imho |
| 06:35.31 | NightHawkTheSane | well obviously |
| 06:35.42 | ckknight | interactivity creates something quite different |
| 06:36.19 | vid`` | http://www.qj.net/WoW-player-harrasses-woman-in-game-gets-beat-up-by-woman-s-husband-IRL/pg/49/aid/91058 |
| 06:36.37 | NightHawkTheSane | vid``: yah, thats so yesterday, yeesh. |
| 06:36.56 | vid`` | :( |
| 06:37.03 | wobin | feh |
| 06:37.14 | wobin | the choose your own adventure books -have- to be paper |
| 06:37.34 | wobin | It's the whole "Holding five different scenarios with your fingers" thing that made is so much fun |
| 06:37.46 | nymbia | made the damn things 20 pages long |
| 06:38.06 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: yeah, i was just making a loose comparison :P |
| 06:38.17 | ckknight | I should document my religion one day, though |
| 06:38.18 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 06:38.28 | wobin | The trials of being omnipotent |
| 06:38.43 | wobin | having to document everything for the unenlightened =P |
| 06:39.03 | ckknight | in this form, we have neither omnipotence nor omniscience |
| 06:39.22 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: if you were omnipotent, documenting everything would be easy. |
| 06:39.31 | ckknight | granted, in our ethereal forms, we don't either, except in the realms we place ourselves in, but in such a situation, pointlessness arrives quite quickly |
| 06:39.36 | wobin | yeah? well look how God did |
| 06:39.48 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: proof that god's not omnipotent if i ever saw it ;) |
| 06:39.51 | wobin | The most documentation he did was a few rules on some tablets |
| 06:40.03 | wobin | highly open to interpretation =P |
| 06:40.30 | ckknight | it's almost as if God was trying to trick us by acting like he had multiple different voices saying contradicting things |
| 06:40.38 | ckknight | almost as if it were men pretending to be God |
| 06:40.39 | wobin | Tricksy god |
| 06:40.47 | ckknight | quite tricksy, indeed |
| 06:40.53 | kebinusan | He was too busy trying to microwave a burrito even he couldnt eat |
| 06:40.58 | ckknight | clearly just a way to test our faith |
| 06:41.01 | ckknight | lol, kebinusan |
| 06:41.21 | wobin | and now I want a burrito |
| 06:41.39 | wobin | I wonder how hard they are to make =P |
| 06:41.44 | Dynom | I want a taco, a nice bold taco |
| 06:41.47 | Diao | lol |
| 06:42.14 | Dynom | bald* |
| 06:42.21 | NightHawkTheSane | i could go for a burrito, actually |
| 06:42.22 | wobin | bald taco? |
| 06:42.38 | Dynom | nah just ate, don't want a burrito now |
| 06:42.46 | NightHawkTheSane | you know what makes me kind of sick, that taco bell sounds vaguely appetizing right now |
| 06:42.52 | Dynom | wobin: how old are you ? |
| 06:43.09 | wobin | 28 =P |
| 06:43.19 | wobin | We're not big on the tex mex or mexican food over here =P |
| 06:43.27 | wobin | So I get confused on the terminology |
| 06:43.49 | NightHawkTheSane | where's "over here"? |
| 06:43.57 | wobin | Australia |
| 06:44.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh, right. |
| 06:45.06 | wobin | I might pop downstairs and buy one of those burrito packs |
| 06:45.11 | wobin | where all you supply is the meat |
| 06:45.16 | Dynom | wobin: I was kinda refering to a part of a woman, but I guess that's not a joke they share in down under ;) |
| 06:45.32 | wobin | hehe definitely not =P |
| 06:45.53 | wobin | Although, tbh, I thought tacos used a hard shell |
| 06:46.03 | Dynom | well it's more for the shape |
| 06:46.19 | wobin | Cause I'd be kinda worried =) |
| 06:46.41 | wobin | "If it's crunchy down there, there's something definitely wrong..." |
| 06:48.19 | Diao | it depends actually |
| 06:48.24 | Diao | real tacos from mexico don't have hard shell :p |
| 06:49.05 | wobin | So it's only the American women that are crunchy? =) |
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| 06:49.14 | Diao | lol |
| 06:49.28 | Dynom | amagad xD |
| 06:49.37 | Dynom | great subject, got a meeting now brb |
| 06:49.42 | wobin | hehe |
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| 07:11.32 | ruinna | those of you subscribed to wowace-svn-requests pls ignore my earlier spam.. i hadn't realized that with my existing creds i could add files outside of my first addon location |
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| 07:12.29 | Funkeh` | don't worry, no one bites, well .. nymbia does sometimes |
| 07:13.41 | Funkeh` | orly? |
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| 07:14.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I bite, but only if you ask nicely |
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| 07:15.01 | Funkeh` | what is up wiht the blizz downloader |
| 07:15.04 | Funkeh` | every single patch |
| 07:15.15 | Funkeh` | 1 > 95% in seconds, last 5% > 1hr |
| 07:15.25 | Roartindon | Funkeh`: I stopped it and reloaded |
| 07:15.30 | Roartindon | that makes the last 1% happen quickly |
| 07:15.33 | Wobin | Welcome to the world of bittorrent =P |
| 07:15.48 | Funkeh` | ill try that |
| 07:16.09 | Fisker- | bittorent is FUKKEN AWESOME |
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| 07:16.49 | Nickenyfiken | Well BitTorrent only sucks when blizzard is involved |
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| 07:16.58 | sylvanaar | hmm...now i need something to test this vid card |
| 07:17.10 | Funkeh` | wohoo 97% |
| 07:17.16 | Funkeh` | now its stuck on that |
| 07:17.18 | Funkeh` | >> |
| 07:17.28 | Fisker- | what video card sylvanaar? |
| 07:17.40 | sylvanaar | 8800gtx |
| 07:18.11 | Funkeh` | typical maxing my upload rate |
| 07:18.17 | Funkeh` | yeah ofc that works fine.. |
| 07:18.21 | Fisker- | Ok i'll just leave you my address and i'll test your graphics card for you |
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| 07:18.28 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 07:18.34 | Fisker- | Maxing your upload rate is usually why it fails to download quickly |
| 07:18.55 | Funkeh` | i mean, theres no limit you can put on it |
| 07:18.58 | Funkeh` | in the blizz one |
| 07:19.01 | Fisker- | Upload needs to be capped at around 10-15& of your max |
| 07:19.10 | Punkie` | so use another client funkeh? :P |
| 07:19.16 | Fisker- | :P |
| 07:19.18 | Funkeh` | give me the torrent? |
| 07:19.22 | Punkie` | you have the torrent |
| 07:19.31 | Funkeh` | i never get a torrent on minor patches |
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| 07:19.41 | Fisker- | If you have Vista, Nvidia has released a couple of DX10 demoes |
| 07:19.42 | Fisker- | dmos* |
| 07:19.45 | Fisker- | demoes* |
| 07:19.47 | Fisker- | demos* |
| 07:20.36 | Funkeh` | unless its being saved somewhere i don't know of |
| 07:21.01 | sylvanaar | well, if i max the vid setting in wow i get 40fps, thats bs |
| 07:21.19 | sylvanaar | i should check out the demos |
| 07:21.42 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: http://capnbry.net/wow/downloads/WoWTorrentEx-3.zip |
| 07:22.13 | ruinna | soo.. how do i know what ace libs i need to include in my project? looks like a number of the mix-in libs don't state what they depend on in wiki docs.. |
| 07:22.17 | Funkeh` | where is the damn thing saved then? |
| 07:22.32 | Fisker- | sylvanaar WoW is also very dependant on memory |
| 07:22.49 | Fisker- | Although you should be able to get to areas where you easily get atleast 60 fps |
| 07:22.51 | NightHawkTheSane | in osx it's stored within the downloader package itself. but i dont know where on windows. |
| 07:23.07 | Punkie` | yeah same for windows |
| 07:23.13 | Fisker- | But for example if you have low memory, each big city will be a fucking hell to be in as usual |
| 07:23.14 | Punkie` | hence why you download the above |
| 07:23.18 | Punkie` | and extract the torrent out |
| 07:23.18 | Wobin | ruinna: The mixin libs shouldn't depend on anything aside from AceOO |
| 07:23.30 | sylvanaar | that was in maximized window mode |
| 07:23.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: well, on osx you can just right click->show package contents, then just navigate the directory structure there :) |
| 07:23.38 | ruinna | Wobin: ok, nice to know ^^ |
| 07:23.55 | Fisker- | Try disabling FSAA |
| 07:24.00 | Fisker- | or setting it higher than already |
| 07:25.05 | ruinna | Wobin: mm, so how about FuBarPlugin-2.0? should i include Tablet, Dewdrop, etc. if i use it? |
| 07:25.14 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 07:25.19 | Funkeh` | Punkie` you rock |
| 07:25.24 | Punkie` | i know! :D |
| 07:25.36 | Wobin | ruinna: yes |
| 07:26.20 | sylvanaar | yeah, im pretty much hitting the refresh rate cap |
| 07:26.34 | Fisker- | 40 isn't the refresh rate cap? |
| 07:26.48 | sylvanaar | no, i set it to full screen |
| 07:26.52 | sylvanaar | from windowed |
| 07:27.01 | Fisker- | oh |
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| 07:27.45 | sylvanaar | now im hitting 60 at 1600x1200 with 8x multi |
| 07:28.20 | Punkie` | do you have dual core? |
| 07:28.22 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 07:28.27 | Funkeh` | just downloaded it in 8 seconds :/ |
| 07:28.30 | Wobin | sob |
| 07:28.38 | Wobin | I wish I could get above 10fps =P |
| 07:28.43 | Punkie` | for some reason wow is capped to 60-64 fps with dual core |
| 07:29.33 | Fisker- | try going to 1x Multisample and go into windowed again |
| 07:30.22 | Diao | that's really low |
| 07:30.28 | Diao | sylvanaar how many addons are you running |
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| 07:30.46 | Diao | with 0 addons i can get 100 fps with a 7900GT o_O |
| 07:31.11 | Punkie` | he's running prat! that cuts fps by half i tells ya! |
| 07:31.15 | Diao | lol |
| 07:31.26 | Diao | well that's in fullscreen |
| 07:31.31 | Diao | if i go windowed/max it drops to 60 |
| 07:31.37 | Diao | then when i enable all addons it drops to 40 ;x |
| 07:32.37 | Fisker- | lol |
| 07:32.43 | Fisker- | i can't even go into fullscreen |
| 07:32.57 | Diao | why not? |
| 07:33.18 | Fisker- | I dunno |
| 07:33.32 | Fisker- | Seems it's out of range of my monitor's refreshrange |
| 07:33.36 | Fisker- | but i tried all it had listed |
| 07:33.39 | Diao | o_o |
| 07:33.48 | Diao | fullscreen shouldn't be affected by refresh range |
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| 07:36.56 | FISKER_Q | i fucking hate this |
| 07:37.45 | FISKER_Q | i keep losing my internet because of some work with the electricity :( |
| 07:38.10 | sylvanaar | whatever, lol |
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| 07:42.30 | sylvanaar | there is no point in a framerate higher than 60 is there? |
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| 07:42.37 | sylvanaar | on a lcd |
| 07:42.43 | FISKER_Q | technically there's no point in a framerate higher than 30 |
| 07:42.55 | sylvanaar | yes there is |
| 07:43.02 | FISKER_Q | what? |
| 07:43.10 | sylvanaar | its 2x the eye's refresh that is the magic number |
| 07:43.38 | FISKER_Q | I think less people would be inclined to play console games if that were the case |
| 07:43.49 | FISKER_Q | But in any case there's no point in a framerate higher than 60 then |
| 07:44.19 | sylvanaar | what do you mean? |
| 07:44.41 | FISKER_Q | All console games are built towards a framerate of 30 |
| 07:44.49 | sylvanaar | interlaced |
| 07:46.27 | FISKER_Q | Btw have you gotten the new drivers just released from nvidia? :P |
| 07:46.47 | sylvanaar | the refresh rates on pc monitors are to reduce white glare, and for a crt you need about 72hx i think |
| 07:47.01 | sylvanaar | i dont know |
| 07:47.11 | sylvanaar | i got ones off their web site |
| 07:47.28 | sylvanaar | 158.18 |
| 07:47.34 | FISKER_Q | http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_158.22.html |
| 07:47.43 | sylvanaar | vista32 |
| 07:49.01 | FISKER_Q | ah ok |
| 07:49.22 | sylvanaar | oh there are beta drivers 158.24 |
| 07:49.36 | Funkeh` | WOOHOO |
| 07:50.14 | Funkeh` | http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7812/wowscrnshot050407084726se5.jpg |
| 07:50.18 | sylvanaar | these seem to work fine |
| 07:51.22 | FISKER_Q | haha Funkeh` |
| 07:51.33 | FISKER_Q | In b4 whining about not being able to mind control people at the same time |
| 07:51.38 | FISKER_Q | i know it's gonna be there |
| 07:52.35 | vhaarr | Bibi: err |
| 07:52.44 | vhaarr | Bibi: http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/new_heroic.jpg <- some of these items haven't changed at all. |
| 07:53.06 | Bibi | Probably, but as I said it's from curse-gaming, not from me :p |
| 07:53.24 | Bibi | (and tbh, can't compare now) |
| 07:53.30 | Bibi | (i'm fighting to stay awake) |
| 07:53.33 | vhaarr | I can't really see you saying that anywhere. |
| 07:53.39 | Bibi | top of the page ? :p |
| 07:54.13 | vhaarr | ah |
| 07:54.29 | vhaarr | well they're wrong, many of those items have not changed at all |
| 07:54.36 | sylvanaar | i want to see if it can run my current monitor and my new one at the same time |
| 07:54.54 | FISKER_Q | haha Bibi |
| 07:55.01 | FISKER_Q | Teza is in curse |
| 07:55.02 | FISKER_Q | omg drama |
| 07:55.07 | Bibi | ? |
| 07:55.09 | Bibi | why drama ? |
| 07:55.41 | Bibi | www.curse.com doesn't have much things to do with the guild now |
| 07:57.10 | FISKER_Q | It was a joke :( |
| 07:57.17 | FISKER_Q | but nice buff to the violet signets |
| 07:57.22 | vhaarr | yes |
| 07:57.31 | vhaarr | I'll actually use my healer ring nwo |
| 07:58.33 | vhaarr | heh, bishops cloak was boosted by +1 sta, +2 int and +2 healing, imba |
| 07:58.48 | Funkeh` | alright moff, cya all later |
| 07:58.56 | Diao | wait they buffed the azure-shield? |
| 07:58.57 | Diao | or no |
| 07:59.07 | Diao | cause it was already pretty much on par with the shield from malch |
| 07:59.36 | sylvanaar | this mouse doesnt scroll for well from the scroll wheel what a waste |
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| 08:13.29 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r34418 10Violation/modules/ (DamageTaken.lua HealingTaken.lua): Violation: bugfix damage and healing taken: source -> recipient |
| 08:19.10 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm was grinding Sunfury Signets @ black temple and Doomwalker killed me heh |
| 08:19.35 | Nickenyfiken | His earthquake thing and i was like 200 yards away from him |
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| 08:20.12 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 08:20.18 | NightHawkTheSane | doomwalker's a jackass |
| 08:20.48 | kebinusan | indeed |
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| 08:30.00 | Diao | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101900497&sid=1 |
| 08:30.03 | Diao | interesting. |
| 08:34.06 | Punkie` | awesome, the engineering goggles get buffed :D |
| 08:34.12 | [Ammo] | oh noes |
| 08:35.26 | Punkie` | 58 agi, 39 sta, 10 hit and 60 ap is awesome |
| 08:35.44 | Punkie` | as well as zoom capability ofc |
| 08:36.03 | [Ammo] | source? |
| 08:36.15 | Punkie` | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/goggles.jpg |
| 08:36.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: >< |
| 08:36.39 | Punkie` | also the violet eye rings and heroic rewards have been buffed slightly too |
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| 08:37.40 | [Ammo] | sucks that the gadgetstorm mail goggles are better than the cloth ones |
| 08:37.52 | [Ammo] | the cloth ones just lack all stats |
| 08:37.59 | [Ammo] | bloody glass cannon goggles |
| 08:38.02 | Punkie` | look at my leather ones |
| 08:38.07 | Punkie` | oh baby |
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| 08:38.52 | [Ammo] | I'd like the mail ones |
| 08:38.59 | [Ammo] | just have them say 'cloth' with less armor |
| 08:39.00 | [Ammo] | done |
| 08:39.13 | Necrathex | omg, those rogue goggles pwn |
| 08:39.21 | Punkie` | they do! |
| 08:39.25 | Punkie` | and have sockets :D |
| 08:39.32 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34419 10Aloft/Modules/CombatText.lua: |
| 08:39.32 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 08:39.32 | CIA-23 | - CombatText: If the target is a party member, and enableGroup is turned on, then don't process the target message. |
| 08:39.44 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, I need a slower MH. |
| 08:39.53 | Necrathex | i'm gonna be a happy rogue engineer :p |
| 08:40.07 | Punkie` | me too :> |
| 08:40.11 | NightHawkTheSane | s/MH/OH/ |
| 08:40.36 | Punkie` | why NightHawkTheSane? |
| 08:41.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: cause WF on a 1.9 speed OH sucks so hard. Either that, or I need a blackout truncheon. |
| 08:41.54 | Punkie` | ah ok |
| 08:42.08 | kebinusan | destruction holo-gogs .. Id still wear spellstrike |
| 08:42.08 | Punkie` | seems the arena sets are getting nerfed a bit too |
| 08:42.38 | Punkie` | I think this upgrade makes the rogue ones better than t5 now |
| 08:42.38 | kebinusan | oh? |
| 08:43.22 | kebinusan | blizzard needs to hire some geek who just sits in a closet and theorycrafts itemization, it'd probably cause alot less of these nerfing blunders |
| 08:45.06 | ZealotOnAStick | So, saw Spiderman 3. |
| 08:45.24 | Punkie` | gratsmate |
| 08:45.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Was ok. Some fun moments. Some horrible moments. |
| 08:45.55 | Punkie` | recommended to watch? |
| 08:45.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Sure. |
| 08:46.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyway, it's almost 5 a.m. now . . . I should probably attempt sleep. |
| 08:46.14 | Punkie` | cool |
| 08:46.18 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:46.21 | Punkie` | I think so too :P |
| 08:46.23 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: booked ticket yet? |
| 08:46.27 | Punkie` | no |
| 08:46.40 | Punkie` | btw ammo |
| 08:46.48 | Punkie` | did you see that convo i posted? :D |
| 08:46.50 | Punkie` | hahaha |
| 08:46.52 | [Ammo] | yarr |
| 08:46.52 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:47.35 | Punkie` | I'll probably be going |
| 08:47.47 | Punkie` | But I dont know if I'm going to stay there for a few days either side |
| 08:47.59 | Punkie` | or just go there for the weekend or whatever |
| 08:48.10 | kebinusan | dont see any changes on the warlock gladiator gear so far |
| 08:48.32 | Punkie` | I only really looked at the weapons |
| 08:51.06 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34420 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: Soggy Rangers play with Axes. |
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| 08:56.06 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 08:56.25 | Nickenyfiken | I always forget what SRA is :-P |
| 08:56.28 | NightHawkTheSane | I like axes |
| 08:56.31 | Gngsk | Simple Raid Assist! |
| 08:56.37 | FISKER_Q | nono |
| 08:56.43 | FISKER_Q | "Soggy Ranger play with Axes" |
| 08:56.46 | Diao | lol |
| 08:56.49 | FISKER_Q | +s |
| 08:56.50 | NightHawkTheSane | rangers, plural |
| 08:56.54 | Diao | Is it working yet? |
| 08:57.03 | kebinusan | svn log http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SRA and take your pick |
| 08:57.07 | Diao | I haven't tried to install it because the changelogs always confuse me |
| 08:57.12 | Diao | but I looked through the code |
| 08:57.19 | kebinusan | I think thats the point Diao :-) |
| 08:57.24 | vhaarr | don't look at the code yet please |
| 08:57.27 | vhaarr | it's not ready for that |
| 08:57.28 | Diao | :( |
| 08:57.34 | nymbia | not ready for eyes!! |
| 08:57.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i looked at the code once. |
| 08:57.47 | NightHawkTheSane | It made my left eye explode |
| 08:57.56 | kebinusan | I went blind for 4 hours |
| 08:57.57 | NightHawkTheSane | kids, listen to vhaarr. |
| 08:58.29 | Diao | Okay well |
| 08:58.32 | Diao | Off to bed! |
| 08:59.16 | NightHawkTheSane | "Don't tease me about my hobbies, I don't tease you about being an asshole." |
| 09:02.04 | Necrathex | meh, i guess there's no easy way for a nub to make a GUI options menu thingy? |
| 09:02.15 | vhaarr | Necrathex: There sure is. |
| 09:02.20 | kebinusan | waterfall |
| 09:02.30 | Necrathex | :o |
| 09:02.31 | NightHawkTheSane | dewdrop and/or waterfall |
| 09:02.50 | vhaarr | Necrathex: Basically, look at *one* mod on the SVN, and it'll tell you how. |
| 09:03.04 | Necrathex | yea, i'm looking at multiple atm :p |
| 09:03.12 | nymbia | the options table ;) |
| 09:05.48 | Necrathex | hm, waterfall looks cool, didn't notice that one |
| 09:08.47 | FISKER_Q | nymbia! |
| 09:08.55 | FISKER_Q | Why does Porung keep evading you? |
| 09:09.12 | nymbia | cuz he's a jerk |
| 09:09.31 | FISKER_Q | Oh you mean like me? |
| 09:09.55 | nymbia | indeed. |
| 09:09.56 | nymbia | ;) |
| 09:11.32 | FISKER_Q | damn |
| 09:11.51 | FISKER_Q | whats the odds of a visual confirmation dialogue having actual words? :P |
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| 09:12.32 | shieldb | hmm, if I've checked out an addon from the svn, do I need to set externals on my local copy before I commit to avoid breaking it? |
| 09:12.34 | xyu | Can someone help me get "watches" working in simple combat log ; ; |
| 09:13.17 | nymbia | shieldb: no |
| 09:14.40 | shieldb | kk, wanted to doublecheck before pulling the trigger, so to speak ;) |
| 09:14.53 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm, i don't understand what AceDBs * and ** keys are used for :-/ |
| 09:15.09 | vhaarr | Nickenyfiken: It's documented on the AceDB-2.0 wiki entry. |
| 09:15.21 | vhaarr | Under :RegisterDefaults, iirc. |
| 09:15.39 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah ive read it, but i am too stupid to get it haha :-P |
| 09:15.54 | vhaarr | what is it you don't understand, then |
| 09:17.26 | Nickenyfiken | So if i set ['*'] = true, anything i reference in the table will return true if it's not specified? |
| 09:17.43 | nymbia | yup |
| 09:17.44 | vhaarr | yeah, anything on that level |
| 09:17.53 | Necrathex | any existing mods that use Waterfall? |
| 09:17.59 | vhaarr | Necrathex: BigWigs. |
| 09:18.05 | Necrathex | ah cool |
| 09:18.06 | Roartindon | Necrathex: Tons.. Prat, BigWigs, Aloft, |
| 09:18.07 | vhaarr | Necrathex: BigWigs\Options.lua |
| 09:18.28 | Punkie` | Is there gonna be a bigwigs for irl coming out? like a tomtom |
| 09:18.37 | Punkie` | when crossing the road 'Car Coming! 10sec' |
| 09:18.44 | Necrathex | rofl |
| 09:18.48 | Nickenyfiken | Oh i see |
| 09:18.49 | Nickenyfiken | Haha |
| 09:19.01 | CIA-23 | 03shieldb * r34421 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Added zone invite (/razinvite) - mass invites for guildies in the same zone as you. |
| 09:19.09 | vhaarr | *** Mothers Day in 30sec! *** |
| 09:19.14 | Punkie` | haha :D |
| 09:19.16 | Punkie` | damn straight! |
| 09:19.24 | Nickenyfiken | I want buff timers so i know when i have to drink and get well fed again |
| 09:19.29 | Punkie` | rofl |
| 09:19.29 | Roartindon | vhaarr: huh? Your mother's day is on a friday?! |
| 09:19.34 | shieldb | vhaarr, YOU ARE NOT PREPARED |
| 09:19.39 | shieldb | :( |
| 09:19.40 | Roartindon | oh.. |
| 09:19.40 | vhaarr | Roartindon: I celebrate my mother every day! |
| 09:19.42 | Roartindon | <--- stupid |
| 09:19.52 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 09:19.53 | vhaarr | :P |
| 09:20.09 | vhaarr | *** Ozone layer gone in ~2 years *** |
| 09:20.34 | Roartindon | Water level rising count, like gruul's growths |
| 09:20.42 | vhaarr | *** World phase 3 - water at your door in ~5 days *** |
| 09:20.53 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, shit, today is mother's day?!? |
| 09:20.56 | ckknight | is it mother's day today? |
| 09:20.57 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 09:21.00 | ckknight | dang |
| 09:21.00 | ckknight | didn't know |
| 09:21.01 | vhaarr | no, it's not. |
| 09:21.06 | Roartindon | hahaha.. I'm not the only stupid one :) |
| 09:21.12 | ckknight | oh |
| 09:21.12 | ckknight | when is it? |
| 09:21.16 | ckknight | I don't keep track of these things |
| 09:21.22 | Roartindon | may 13 |
| 09:21.23 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: dude, not cool. i totally never know when that is. :P |
| 09:21.31 | vhaarr | Roartindon: actually, it depends on the country |
| 09:21.34 | Roartindon | 2nd sunday of may |
| 09:21.42 | Roartindon | Well, it's May 13 in Aus and US I believe |
| 09:21.58 | vhaarr | we celebrate it the second sunday of february |
| 09:22.21 | Punkie` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_day#Mother.27s_Days_in_various_parts_of_the_world :p |
| 09:22.23 | Roartindon | which country is that? |
| 09:22.27 | vhaarr | norway |
| 09:22.52 | vhaarr | Punkie`: lol |
| 09:22.55 | vhaarr | wikipedia is wrong |
| 09:23.01 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: so correct it. :P |
| 09:23.05 | vhaarr | cba |
| 09:23.24 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: It's just that .. if I create an account, the first step is done. |
| 09:23.26 | vhaarr | if you get me |
| 09:23.37 | vhaarr | so I'll be more inclined to spend time fixing more stuff |
| 09:23.42 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 09:23.45 | vhaarr | and then it just grows |
| 09:23.46 | vhaarr | >< |
| 09:23.51 | Punkie` | you dont even need to create an account |
| 09:23.58 | vhaarr | oh? |
| 09:24.13 | Punkie` | press edit this page at the top :P |
| 09:24.15 | vhaarr | ah |
| 09:24.17 | vhaarr | cool |
| 09:24.18 | NightHawkTheSane | And then in three weeks, you disappear from wow, and become a full time wikipedia editor. |
| 09:24.19 | vhaarr | I'll fix then |
| 09:24.24 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: indeed |
| 09:25.16 | sergio | not until violation is complete |
| 09:25.59 | NightHawkTheSane | screw violation! there's a rogue editor rampaging across the linux pages, they must be stopped! |
| 09:26.16 | vhaarr | I did some performance testing of violation on the PTR |
| 09:26.23 | vhaarr | let me just say |
| 09:26.26 | vhaarr | DMM fucking sucks |
| 09:26.41 | Roartindon | DMM being Damage Meters? |
| 09:26.45 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 09:26.51 | Roartindon | what kind of numbers? |
| 09:26.51 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: so, violation does well then? If that's so, get off your ass and finish it :P |
| 09:27.00 | vhaarr | yeye, get off my back :< |
| 09:27.12 | NightHawkTheSane | psh, thats the first time i've ever mentioned it |
| 09:27.14 | vhaarr | going home to my parents this weekend for my smallest brothers confirmation |
| 09:27.18 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 09:27.25 | vhaarr | Roartindon: CPU time and memory consumption |
| 09:27.39 | Roartindon | yeah, what kind of factors slower is it compared to violation I meant |
| 09:27.52 | vhaarr | violation uses about 70kib of memory and after 500k damage done with my rogue it had used about 90 milliseconds of CPU time |
| 09:28.04 | vhaarr | afaik |
| 09:28.08 | sylvanaar | dont forget violation needs everyone to run it, so you gotta test it that way no? |
| 09:28.13 | vhaarr | err, iirc, I mean |
| 09:28.18 | Roartindon | I think he was soloing |
| 09:28.18 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: not any more |
| 09:28.21 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 09:28.24 | vhaarr | but yes, I was solo |
| 09:28.30 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, did it finally get that functionality? |
| 09:28.33 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: I fixed it, not anymore |
| 09:28.36 | vhaarr | yeah ammo fixed that |
| 09:28.41 | sylvanaar | coolies |
| 09:28.44 | vhaarr | that is to say |
| 09:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | neat. [Ammo]'s my new hero |
| 09:28.47 | [Ammo] | just needs a toggle, self only :p |
| 09:28.49 | vhaarr | ag had already fixed it some time ago |
| 09:28.56 | [Ammo] | I just merged the changes |
| 09:28.59 | vhaarr | but I didn't like it, so I asked him to remove it again |
| 09:29.04 | vhaarr | and then ammo started whining |
| 09:30.10 | vhaarr | compared it to some DMM numbers and it didn't give me the same numbers though, which is a bit unsettling |
| 09:30.53 | vhaarr | Roartindon: well, DMM is a bit excused, because it tracks things in detail |
| 09:31.04 | vhaarr | Roartindon: while violation just gives you the raw numbers |
| 09:31.08 | Roartindon | Turn off events in DMM to compare? |
| 09:31.17 | vhaarr | meh |
| 09:31.34 | sylvanaar | i never liked DMM |
| 09:31.38 | Roartindon | Not that it really matters I guess |
| 09:31.59 | vhaarr | Roartindon: no, just looking at the DMM is reason enough to create a new damage meter mod |
| 09:32.05 | vhaarr | Roartindon: regardless of its performance |
| 09:32.07 | [Ammo] | it could be parser-3.0 is missing some events |
| 09:32.10 | [Ammo] | damagewise |
| 09:32.11 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 09:32.13 | vhaarr | "the DMM code", I mean |
| 09:32.18 | Roartindon | I use DMM only because it's the only one that shows dps per fight |
| 09:32.23 | Roartindon | I don't dare look at its code |
| 09:32.36 | [Ammo] | wonder how sws dmm compare |
| 09:32.37 | sylvanaar | swstats2fu shows dps per fight |
| 09:32.38 | vhaarr | Roartindon: You're probably saner for it. |
| 09:32.39 | haste | Recap also shows per fight |
| 09:32.59 | Roartindon | I looked at it once ages ago |
| 09:33.08 | Roartindon | When one version was causing some errors sporadically |
| 09:33.12 | Roartindon | And never looked at it again |
| 09:33.16 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: well, I tested violation with my warlock + a mage friend in group, and we did about 200k damage each. My damage was the same on both mods, but his damage was like 1k lower on violation. |
| 09:33.27 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 09:33.31 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: so it's not far off, whatever it is, it's probably just one spell event missing or something. |
| 09:33.35 | FISKER_Q | anyone remember how to check for new or modified files between 2 directories? |
| 09:33.37 | [Ammo] | probably yeah |
| 09:33.37 | Roartindon | vharr: Pet damage? |
| 09:33.38 | FISKER_Q | in linux |
| 09:33.42 | [Ammo] | pet damage is counted |
| 09:33.45 | [Ammo] | or should be |
| 09:33.45 | vhaarr | Roartindon: no |
| 09:33.48 | vhaarr | right, should be |
| 09:33.54 | vhaarr | he didn't use the pet anyway |
| 09:33.56 | vhaarr | neither did I |
| 09:34.06 | vhaarr | (dark pact imp) |
| 09:34.09 | sylvanaar | and there are many ways to track pets too |
| 09:35.09 | Roartindon | Yeah, I was thinking of adding a Pet's Owner module to aloft |
| 09:35.22 | Roartindon | so it'd show PetName (Owner) on the nameplate |
| 09:35.23 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: doubtful, but could the missing damage from him been somethign to do with the combat log range? |
| 09:35.32 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: no |
| 09:35.34 | FISKER_Q | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/phpraid/ <-is this site a bit slow for you guys? |
| 09:35.46 | krka | not really |
| 09:35.46 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: if he was running damagemeters, then yes, but he wasn't. |
| 09:35.49 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm how can i add a new level in a dewdrop dynamically? I just find the AddLine() stuff... |
| 09:35.49 | FISKER_Q | hmm |
| 09:36.01 | sylvanaar | maybe one of the mods counted a lifetap as your damage |
| 09:36.04 | Roartindon | nickeyfiken: Add to the AceOptions data table |
| 09:36.06 | vhaarr | Nickenyfiken: you get an argument to your menu function, level. |
| 09:36.10 | [Ammo] | 1k on 200k damage is not much |
| 09:36.13 | [Ammo] | and sounds like 1 event missing |
| 09:36.15 | Nickenyfiken | yeah |
| 09:36.16 | [Ammo] | but meh |
| 09:36.37 | Nickenyfiken | so if level == 2 then addline() ? |
| 09:36.46 | vhaarr | right |
| 09:37.08 | Roartindon | depends what you're adding |
| 09:37.25 | Roartindon | Some 'dynamic' things can be done by modifying the aceoptions data table |
| 09:37.26 | vhaarr | well obviously that would be the first submenu level |
| 09:37.32 | Roartindon | which is probably easier in most cases |
| 09:37.34 | vhaarr | Roartindon: .. he's not using a aceoptions table. |
| 09:37.41 | Stephmw | howdy |
| 09:37.45 | Nickenyfiken | I have tried that but the level does not "appear" |
| 09:37.46 | vhaarr | You don't :AddLine if you do. |
| 09:38.10 | vhaarr | Nickenyfiken: have you read the API docs? |
| 09:38.12 | Nickenyfiken | I only get levels when i feed a AceOptions table |
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| 09:39.07 | Nickenyfiken | Yup |
| 09:39.08 | Roartindon | Nickenyfiken: There's some dynamic code in FuBar_WhisperFu - written ages ago, but it works |
| 09:39.11 | [Ammo] | Nickenyfiken: read the api better |
| 09:39.16 | vhaarr | Nickenyfiken: basically you need to :addline an option at level 1 with a value = "uniqueId" and hasArrow = true |
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| 09:39.46 | vhaarr | Nickenyfiken: and then when the handler is called, you :Addline the appropriate options if the level and ID match. |
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| 09:41.26 | Nickenyfiken | Ah i see, missed the value part |
| 09:41.50 | FISKER_Q | damn |
| 09:41.54 | FISKER_Q | now i know why my site is so slow |
| 09:42.02 | FISKER_Q | Tracing route to developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk [88.198.60.19] |
| 09:42.02 | FISKER_Q | over a maximum of 30 hops: |
| 09:42.02 | FISKER_Q | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:42.03 | FISKER_Q | :I |
| 09:42.04 | sylvanaar | i just want aceoptions to have clickable groups, and dewdrop makes my head spin |
| 09:42.14 | Nickenyfiken | [Ammo]: Yeah i should. |
| 09:42.14 | Roartindon | 500ms on your local network? |
| 09:42.16 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: "clickable groups"? |
| 09:42.31 | FISKER_Q | that's from my modem to my central |
| 09:42.32 | sylvanaar | groups that act like toggles |
| 09:42.37 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: multiToggle |
| 09:42.42 | FISKER_Q | apparently my local network isn't in the tracert |
| 09:42.46 | sylvanaar | thats what i thought but no |
| 09:42.48 | Necrathex | FISKER_Q: it's pretty fast here |
| 09:42.52 | FISKER_Q | ^^ |
| 09:42.58 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: then you need to explain better |
| 09:43.01 | sylvanaar | when you click the group it behaves as a toggle |
| 09:43.12 | Roartindon | ahhh. |
| 09:43.17 | Roartindon | Yeah, I wanted that too |
| 09:43.22 | vhaarr | that doesn't make sense |
| 09:43.25 | Roartindon | so eg: modules no longer have an "Enable" as their first option |
| 09:43.30 | sylvanaar | it goes very well with module systems |
| 09:43.32 | Roartindon | Each module can be clicked to enable it |
| 09:43.36 | sylvanaar | it makes alot of sense |
| 09:43.45 | Roartindon | And doing so makes the submenu openable, and interactable |
| 09:43.52 | vhaarr | you can do that |
| 09:43.58 | sylvanaar | with dewdrop |
| 09:44.00 | [Ammo] | you can do that, just the disable option has to be in the submenu :p |
| 09:44.00 | vhaarr | you just need to modify the option table |
| 09:44.04 | sylvanaar | no |
| 09:44.07 | [Ammo] | what vhaarr says |
| 09:44.09 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: No, with AceOptions tables, you can do that. |
| 09:44.13 | sylvanaar | you cant change the type field |
| 09:44.18 | vhaarr | ... |
| 09:44.20 | [Ammo] | you can replace the whole option |
| 09:44.23 | vhaarr | You can HIDE and ADD options. |
| 09:44.27 | vhaarr | So you CAN do it. |
| 09:45.18 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: but good idea, I think we'll adopt it for bigwigs |
| 09:45.19 | Roartindon | Hmm, I guess it can be done - haven't bothered with it yet, but it could be made easier API wise :) |
| 09:45.19 | sylvanaar | yeah, i know, but you can never have a group with a triangle be clickable |
| 09:45.31 | vhaarr | pft |
| 09:45.40 | Roartindon | you can't disable it by clicking on it |
| 09:46.42 | sylvanaar | yeah, modmenu2fu is an addon that comes to mind which uses clickable groups |
| 09:47.24 | vhaarr | actually, I don't like the idea anyway |
| 09:47.39 | vhaarr | the whole concept of option interfaces that dynamically change their appearance is confusing |
| 09:47.42 | mjc | moo |
| 09:47.49 | FISKER_Q | ARGH |
| 09:48.34 | sylvanaar | they dont need to if you can click the group to place its submenu in a disabled state |
| 09:48.52 | FISKER_Q | Damn working in terminals is frustating with a 500-600msec lag |
| 09:48.59 | vhaarr | it's not a common ui thing that submenu entries can be clicked |
| 09:49.01 | vhaarr | I don't like it |
| 09:49.25 | Necrathex | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:49.31 | Necrathex | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:49.59 | Necrathex | that's looking pretty neat out of the box |
| 09:50.07 | sylvanaar | yeah, the alternative is disabling all the suboptions except 1 which lets you toggle the thing back on |
| 09:50.22 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: right, like I made the PitBull menus behave. |
| 09:50.24 | vhaarr | and that works fine. |
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| 09:52.05 | sylvanaar | check out modmenu2fu maybe so you can see it work |
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| 09:53.21 | Roartindon | Where can I get modmenu2fu? |
| 09:53.37 | sylvanaar | theres a version on the svn im sure |
| 09:53.46 | Roartindon | in branches? |
| 09:53.47 | sylvanaar | fubar_modmenu2fu |
| 09:54.10 | Roartindon | hmm.. why isn't it showing up for me... |
| 09:54.27 | sylvanaar | then maybe on tekkubs google code area |
| 09:54.30 | sylvanaar | idk |
| 09:55.57 | sylvanaar | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_ModMenuTuFu |
| 09:57.35 | Roartindon | interesting, didn't show up on files.wowace.com at all |
| 09:57.37 | Roartindon | got it from svn |
| 09:58.07 | sylvanaar | cause it prolly hasnt been updated since 2.0 |
| 09:58.12 | FISKER_Q | Anyone know where to get current icon packs for the items? |
| 09:58.34 | FISKER_Q | Or where to piggybag some :P |
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| 10:02.21 | Punkie` | yep |
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| 10:03.43 | Punkie` | http://wow.allakhazam.com/images/icons/icons.tar.gz |
| 10:05.08 | sylvanaar | Roartindon maybe you can figure out how to use dewdrop + dynamic aceoptions without going insane, if you do, maybe you can teach me how to do it |
| 10:05.40 | [Ammo] | it's not that hard |
| 10:05.42 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: there are several addons that use dynamic aceoption tables |
| 10:05.50 | [Ammo] | simple table manipulation actually |
| 10:05.55 | sylvanaar | i have no prob with dynamic aceoptions |
| 10:06.08 | [Ammo] | dewdrop does the rest for you then |
| 10:06.12 | sylvanaar | its mixing them with native dewdrop that i cant do |
| 10:06.22 | FISKER_Q | haha |
| 10:06.23 | vhaarr | dewdrop:FeedAceOptionsTable |
| 10:06.26 | vhaarr | and you're done. |
| 10:06.28 | FISKER_Q | i'm gonna piggybag off thottbot |
| 10:06.31 | FISKER_Q | Punkie` old news |
| 10:06.33 | FISKER_Q | and it's not complete |
| 10:06.45 | FISKER_Q | therefor i requested another repository to get my icons from |
| 10:07.09 | sylvanaar | what am i done with? |
| 10:07.23 | vhaarr | getting your aceoptions into a dewdrop |
| 10:08.07 | FISKER_Q | anyone know if thottbot keeps a icon package like allakhazam? |
| 10:08.23 | FISKER_Q | i'd rather host and load them myself |
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| 10:08.44 | xyu | wow |
| 10:08.51 | xyu | my fucking pally hammer of justice is next to useless :( |
| 10:08.53 | ckknight | pants! |
| 10:08.53 | xyu | i'm counting |
| 10:08.54 | sylvanaar | yeah, but the options table is dynamic so i'd need to keep feeding it in no? |
| 10:08.55 | xyu | 8 resists in a row |
| 10:09.08 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: you'll have to feed it every time you open the menu anyway |
| 10:09.12 | xyu | it might be my whopping 12 spell hit rating |
| 10:09.19 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: and when you change the table, you can just do a dewdrop:Refresh(level) |
| 10:09.35 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: what? |
| 10:09.46 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: did you get my message from yesterday? |
| 10:09.51 | [Ammo] | what message? |
| 10:09.58 | nevcairiel | about proxy check on hydross |
| 10:10.01 | [Ammo] | I see no query windows with you |
| 10:10.08 | [Ammo] | so you did not send me a message |
| 10:10.24 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: I did not write the hydross module |
| 10:10.28 | Punkie` | He probably sent [Homo] a message, common typo |
| 10:10.33 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 10:10.43 | [Ammo] | you know Punkie` you need to get that ticket ordered |
| 10:10.46 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: i know, but vhaarr said i should ask you if its ok to add a proxy check. |
| 10:10.49 | [Ammo] | so I can drown you properly in july |
| 10:11.00 | [Ammo] | well I know nothing of the hydross fight |
| 10:11.01 | Punkie` | haha |
| 10:11.03 | [Ammo] | funkeh knows more |
| 10:11.09 | Punkie` | getting to holland is no problem for me :P |
| 10:11.19 | hugo | hi |
| 10:11.21 | FISKER_Q | Bibi |
| 10:11.24 | FISKER_Q | i have an idea for you |
| 10:11.24 | phyber | ~seen netcurse |
| 10:12.04 | purl | netcurse <n=net@pD9E364F2.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 135d 21h 33m ago, saying: 'yep'. |
| 10:12.04 | nevcairiel | so you send me to funkeh now ? meh :P |
| 10:12.04 | hugo | can someome tell me the addon name on this pic please: http://www.worldofraids.com/news/new-heroic-drops.jpg |
| 10:12.04 | hugo | it shows in ()'s crit % dodge % etc |
| 10:12.04 | Necrathex | ratingbuster? |
| 10:12.04 | FISKER_Q | ratingbuster |
| 10:12.04 | FISKER_Q | yeah |
| 10:12.05 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: well, add it, if it's useless it'll get nuked again |
| 10:12.05 | hugo | thanks man |
| 10:12.12 | Necrathex | isn't that standard in wow nowadays? :p |
| 10:12.24 | [Ammo] | Necrathex: no |
| 10:12.24 | hugo | standard ?;o no |
| 10:12.36 | sylvanaar | no |
| 10:12.37 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: thanks for asking though :) |
| 10:12.37 | Necrathex | j/k :x |
| 10:12.48 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: he casts a water tomb on one random person, everyone in 8y range will get tombed too then. i would say its not that useless :) |
| 10:12.53 | Necrathex | almost everyone uses it.. |
| 10:13.07 | nevcairiel | considering even curator got one :P |
| 10:13.28 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: kk, you know the proximitySilent thing |
| 10:13.41 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 10:13.43 | [Ammo] | make sure you only turn on the sound when he's actually in some kind of state where it matters |
| 10:13.44 | nevcairiel | ive reading up on it |
| 10:13.50 | nevcairiel | *been |
| 10:13.56 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: you can also hide and show the proximity display dynamically |
| 10:14.02 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:14.05 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I suggest you only show it for the person who get the bomb |
| 10:14.07 | vhaarr | for example |
| 10:14.15 | sylvanaar | well, the one thing about it being in aceoptions table is that aceconsole would then support /addon modulename to enable a module vs /addon modulename enable or /addon enable modulename |
| 10:14.27 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: you cannot move when you have the bomb. |
| 10:14.33 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: you're not making sense |
| 10:14.37 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: why would your options not be in an aceoption table? |
| 10:14.37 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: ah |
| 10:15.04 | Punkie` | So, this israeli dude came and reinstalled java runtime on my work computer to work with his app... now my computer is fucked and reinstalling won't solve it :/ |
| 10:15.07 | nevcairiel | hiding it in posion phase is good tho, i already planned for that |
| 10:15.28 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: as long as someone don't have the bomb, it should hide itself automatically |
| 10:15.44 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: and the distancecheck can check for the person who actually has the debuff |
| 10:15.50 | [Ammo] | yarrr |
| 10:16.03 | [Ammo] | although it gets fed all the units |
| 10:16.11 | vhaarr | and? |
| 10:16.21 | [Ammo] | well you'd have to make sure it only returns once :p |
| 10:16.30 | [Ammo] | only for the unit that has the debfff |
| 10:16.40 | vhaarr | yes, like I just said :P |
| 10:16.44 | [Ammo] | uh yeah |
| 10:16.47 | [Ammo] | ok, more coffee |
| 10:16.50 | nevcairiel | nah, you have to stand apart all the time, the bomb is instant cast and instantly stuns everyone in 8y range of the target |
| 10:16.55 | sylvanaar | vhaarr have you ever looked at modmenutufu? you should really see it yourself, its done in other mods too, dreamchat comes to mind also |
| 10:17.17 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: I see what you want to do, and you can do it with aceoptions tables, except disabling it again on click |
| 10:17.37 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: well obviously it depends on the fight, and I've never done hydross, so |
| 10:17.54 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I'm just saying I don't want it to start beeping and whining at people who are not in range of the bombed person |
| 10:19.16 | nevcairiel | well it has to, you dont know who could get bombed. |
| 10:19.19 | sylvanaar | vhaarr: right, which is why i was asking for a group which acts like a toggle, ie is clickable |
| 10:19.25 | nevcairiel | altho i think turning of the beeping is good |
| 10:19.25 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: obviously the mod knows |
| 10:19.40 | nevcairiel | it does? |
| 10:19.42 | nevcairiel | it cannot. |
| 10:19.49 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: it's a debuff? |
| 10:19.54 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 10:19.54 | [Ammo] | it's an instant cast |
| 10:19.56 | nevcairiel | but when you have it |
| 10:19.57 | [Ammo] | and when you get it |
| 10:19.58 | nevcairiel | its too late |
| 10:19.58 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:19.59 | [Ammo] | you're fucked already |
| 10:20.04 | vhaarr | alright then |
| 10:20.07 | evl | your mothers face is an instant debuff |
| 10:20.18 | nevcairiel | i think i will keep it on silent tho |
| 10:20.21 | nevcairiel | like gruul |
| 10:20.33 | vhaarr | we should nuke the one in curator |
| 10:20.37 | vhaarr | it's just annoying |
| 10:20.46 | [Ammo] | click it away once, never returns |
| 10:20.52 | [Ammo] | and there are people sitll using it |
| 10:20.58 | vhaarr | I know, I made it that way :P |
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| 10:21.30 | vhaarr | truth is that it shouldn't even be in bw, it's really stretching the limits |
| 10:22.08 | [Ammo] | it is, but the current solution is pretty good |
| 10:22.55 | nevcairiel | do i need to check db.profile.proximity or does it check that when i trigger the event to show it? |
| 10:23.00 | vhaarr | it checks |
| 10:23.08 | vhaarr | just triggerevent:show/hide |
| 10:23.11 | nevcairiel | oki |
| 10:23.14 | nevcairiel | smart thing :P |
| 10:26.53 | sylvanaar | damn, i just plugged in this new display its freaking bright |
| 10:30.51 | Azurewrath | you might want to power of the box.. switching the display while it's on does not always work perfect :) |
| 10:30.58 | Azurewrath | *off |
| 10:34.49 | Morghus | 2310, |
| 10:34.54 | Morghus | oops |
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| 10:49.09 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: What display did you get? |
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| 10:54.38 | sylvanaar | the new gateway 24" |
| 10:54.57 | sylvanaar | great for the price |
| 10:56.23 | sylvanaar | but way way way to bright |
| 10:57.30 | FISKER_Q | My poor internet :( |
| 10:57.52 | FISKER_Q | 1400msec travel time from my cable modem to the central |
| 10:58.29 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r34422 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: |
| 10:58.29 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: - Hydross: |
| 10:58.29 | CIA-23 | - added proximity check in water stance |
| 10:58.29 | CIA-23 | - possible fix for showing wrong stance transition bars |
| 10:58.53 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: Just turn the brightness down? |
| 10:58.59 | Roartindon | I have my LCD turned down to minimum brightness |
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| 11:00.17 | sylvanaar | its at 0 |
| 11:00.29 | Gngsk | is it impossible for group frames to be floating? both pitbull and aguf have them connected |
| 11:00.38 | Gngsk | party frames that is |
| 11:00.40 | Gngsk | regular 5 man group |
| 11:00.52 | nevcairiel | i think ckk was working on that |
| 11:01.12 | Gngsk | ahh, just curious if it was a secure thing or not |
| 11:01.35 | Diao | shouldn't be, the ported DUF allows for each frame to be moved separately iirc |
| 11:01.56 | ckknight | it is complex |
| 11:01.56 | ckknight | deal. |
| 11:02.02 | FISKER_Q | Gngsk nah, secure stuff is only during combat |
| 11:02.05 | Gngsk | I am, was just curious. |
| 11:02.23 | FISKER_Q | It was seperate at start though |
| 11:04.18 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r34423 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: Hydross: simplify proximity check |
| 11:04.37 | sylvanaar | i turned contrast down all the way and brigness down most of the way and gamma up a little, now it looks ok |
| 11:05.02 | FISKER_Q | damn mosqitos |
| 11:05.08 | FISKER_Q | or whatever they're called |
| 11:05.18 | FISKER_Q | got like 4-5 stings on my elbow |
| 11:06.51 | Punkie` | I heard there is a 1 in 4 chance of getting malaria from any mosquito |
| 11:07.08 | FISKER_Q | this isn't the tropics! |
| 11:07.13 | FISKER_Q | The ones we got is harmless |
| 11:07.16 | FISKER_Q | are* |
| 11:07.27 | Punkie` | that's what you think |
| 11:07.28 | FISKER_Q | besides for itchingx5 @ my elbow |
| 11:07.32 | FISKER_Q | so itcy i wanna bite my arm off |
| 11:07.41 | FISKER_Q | should i proceed? |
| 11:07.47 | Punkie` | go for it |
| 11:09.03 | FISKER_Q | blargh im ded |
| 11:09.23 | nevcairiel | you died from biting your arm off? |
| 11:09.30 | Punkie` | nah, he got malaria |
| 11:09.39 | nevcairiel | ah. |
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| 11:10.42 | FISKER_Q | i got lag so severe that rapidcast can't even take it into account |
| 11:10.42 | FISKER_Q | that's pretty sick |
| 11:10.43 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
| 11:12.20 | Gagorian | lol.. Fisker had an IgE mediated hypersensitivity reaction to the mosquito's saliva which triggered histamine release from the mast cells in the dermis. |
| 11:12.44 | Gagorian | Read as "you fail" |
| 11:12.50 | Punkie` | :D |
| 11:12.57 | FISKER_Q | couldn't you have written that instead |
| 11:20.22 | sylvanaar | zomg trillian update first in like 2 years |
| 11:22.29 | evl | where? :P |
| 11:25.36 | tophero|away | trillian updatd today? |
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| 11:32.04 | FISKER_Q | lolwut sylvanaar |
| 11:32.47 | Gagorian | Umm.. Should my addon be visible in Niagara even if I haven't added any support? |
| 11:33.13 | Gagorian | Because, apparently it is, and it's bugged :p |
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| 11:35.56 | vhaarr | that's kind of the whole deal about niagara |
| 11:36.53 | Gagorian | But.. It like... errors thus failing? :> |
| 11:37.03 | vhaarr | that's waterfalls problem |
| 11:37.33 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r34424 10Decursive/localization.tw.lua: |
| 11:37.33 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 11:37.34 | CIA-23 | - Replaced traditional Chinese translation using Peter Sun's translation. |
| 11:37.43 | Gagorian | vhaarr: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3740.msg98155#msg98155 |
| 11:37.48 | Gagorian | does that say anything to you? |
| 11:38.07 | Gagorian | I've not even used waterfall for anything so I'm not that familiar with it. |
| 11:38.20 | vhaarr | might be a niagara problem then |
| 11:38.59 | vhaarr | it should be replacing spaces with - |
| 11:39.10 | vhaarr | perhaps that is the problem, I don't know |
| 11:40.04 | Gagorian | well, hmm, that string seems similar to what I' |
| 11:40.14 | Gagorian | *I've used as fubarplugin.name |
| 11:40.38 | Gagorian | As in.. Dr. Damage with space just to make it look better. |
| 11:41.15 | Gagorian | Soo, does it use that to get aceoptions table and thus fail? |
| 11:41.22 | Nargiddley | that looks like a waterfall problem to me |
| 11:41.42 | Nargiddley | I use the . as a seperator there, so it being in the name is breaking it :/ |
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| 11:42.22 | Gagorian | Mmkay |
| 11:42.29 | Nargiddley | haddn't thought of key names in the table with it :/ |
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| 11:47.58 | Gagorian | Nargiddley: Fixable on Waterfall's part? |
| 11:49.04 | Nargiddley | probably, dont have a wow sub active at so couldnt test it :/ |
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| 11:53.49 | sylvanaar | small update to trillian, im just shocked |
| 11:54.55 | sylvanaar | i thought they just quit development until i saw the trillian 4.0 (has some dumb name) preview |
| 11:55.39 | Roartindon | Hmm.. I've been meaning to update my own instant messenger program sometime |
| 11:55.50 | Roartindon | Ever since I got WoW, I stopped working on that stuff :) |
| 11:56.04 | [Ammo] | anyone have WoW-2.0.12.6546-to-0.1.0.6577-enGB-patch.exe somewhere? :) |
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| 11:57.12 | Roartindon | Only have the enUS one, sorry |
| 11:57.39 | sylvanaar | Gagorian yes |
| 11:58.03 | sylvanaar | im sure someone told you that while i was rebooting |
| 11:59.39 | evl | So with the latest barrage of PTR changes I guess patch is a bit more remote? |
| 12:00.28 | Vangual | it won't go live next week for sure. |
| 12:00.28 | vhaarr | I wouldn't expect it next week |
| 12:00.55 | Lysithea | i'd say min 2weeks until patch |
| 12:00.57 | sylvanaar | its been long enough, my guess is next week (just cause i dont have alot of faith in them) |
| 12:00.59 | Lysithea | probably 3-4 more like |
| 12:01.06 | ckknight | evl: latest barrage? |
| 12:01.10 | ckknight | my guess is 3 |
| 12:01.28 | evl | yeah, they are upgrading all 70 epics |
| 12:01.34 | Lysithea | sylvanaar they still have 2/3 of the epics remade not patched in |
| 12:01.51 | sylvanaar | Lysithea they could easily go live like that |
| 12:01.55 | Vangual | kalgan said current ptr build has about a third of the incoming lv70 itemchanges in it, netherea confirmed new ptr patch next monday, definitely not next week. |
| 12:01.56 | Lysithea | + the new bg gear matchmaking system |
| 12:01.59 | hugo | what does former accounts mean ? ;> |
| 12:02.12 | Lysithea | sylvanaar I guess, it's blizzard afterall |
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| 12:05.03 | sylvanaar | i guess 2.1 could just be the real tbc release |
| 12:05.55 | Bruners | when is the rl date? |
| 12:06.18 | sylvanaar | we are all making guesses |
| 12:06.50 | sylvanaar | oh by the way LOTRo = LOLo |
| 12:07.04 | Bruners | i heard its bad |
| 12:07.17 | sylvanaar | very |
| 12:07.29 | ggeorgak | hello2all could some1 tell me how to unembed libraries from addons? |
| 12:07.48 | evl | Why bother releasing a fantasty style MMO unless it's better than WoW |
| 12:08.15 | dotted | the graphix are the sex lolo |
| 12:08.28 | sylvanaar | dont know, it has great graphics thats true |
| 12:08.31 | Bruners | hi2u2 |
| 12:08.48 | sylvanaar | but when you move your character you go into shock |
| 12:08.55 | ggeorgak | so that i can d/l libs separately and update em |
| 12:09.19 | sylvanaar | use WAU |
| 12:09.25 | [Ammo] | use SVN |
| 12:09.30 | sylvanaar | use WAU |
| 12:09.36 | dotted | use WAU |
| 12:09.54 | sylvanaar | dont use the SVN to update |
| 12:10.19 | [Ammo] | why not, there's plenty of mirrors to spread the load |
| 12:10.28 | [Ammo] | and WAU only connects to the wowace server itself |
| 12:10.32 | [Ammo] | it doesn't use mirrors |
| 12:10.36 | [Ammo] | hence bringing the load to the server |
| 12:10.40 | sylvanaar | yes it does |
| 12:11.10 | sylvanaar | also files is a separate sever |
| 12:11.19 | Gagorian | Extract standalone libs, search for 'libs' with file search -> delete all, update with WAU without externals |
| 12:11.47 | dotted | or just get standalone through WAU? |
| 12:11.49 | ggeorgak | ah some if I use the no externals option i get the addon without embedded libs |
| 12:12.01 | ggeorgak | if i get it correctly |
| 12:12.07 | sylvanaar | use WAU, first install the !!!StandaloneLibraries mod, then install the others |
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| 12:13.27 | sylvanaar | you can use the Reinstall All Addons command if you want to purge the libs folders (after !!!SAL has been installed) |
| 12:13.39 | ggeorgak | hmm that gets more complicated :P |
| 12:13.47 | ggeorgak | it would be nice to have a guide for that in the wiki |
| 12:13.52 | sylvanaar | there is one |
| 12:13.56 | sylvanaar | you just didnt read it |
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| 12:14.16 | Bruners | why bother doing that anyway ? |
| 12:14.25 | sylvanaar | doing what |
| 12:15.31 | Bruners | using delete all libs and use SAL |
| 12:15.31 | Bruners | *-using |
| 12:15.31 | sylvanaar | oh, you can find that on teh wiki also |
| 12:15.35 | ggeorgak | oh there is |
| 12:15.38 | dotted | to fix warmup numbers |
| 12:15.44 | ggeorgak | hmm let me look it up again |
| 12:16.29 | ggeorgak | sorry can't find it can some1 post the link please? |
| 12:16.43 | sylvanaar | the link is on the main wowace page |
| 12:17.08 | mjc | http://forums.worsethanfailure.com/forums/thread/118634.aspx |
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| 12:19.27 | ggeorgak | still don't see it sylvan |
| 12:20.20 | sylvanaar | it says ace updater |
| 12:20.21 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater |
| 12:21.57 | Bibi | yup ? |
| 12:22.04 | FISKER_Q | yay you're here |
| 12:22.09 | Bibi | always |
| 12:22.09 | FISKER_Q | can you get pm's? |
| 12:22.25 | Bibi | yeah, forgot to answer when i woke up |
| 12:22.25 | Bibi | :p |
| 12:24.16 | ggeorgak | thank you sylvan :) |
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| 12:27.23 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.37 | Morghus | What on earth is clbuttics? =P |
| 12:29.59 | mjc | classics |
| 12:30.06 | mjc | loveual harbuttment |
| 12:30.15 | mjc | these are great |
| 12:30.20 | mjc | Morghus: buttbuttinate! |
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| 12:31.27 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34425 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 12:31.27 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - added tag ismouseover. |
| 12:31.27 | CIA-23 | - added fake event "Mouseover" |
| 12:31.27 | CIA-23 | - changed :RegisterFontString(text, "unit", "code") to :RegisterFontString(text, frame, "unit", "code") -- note, the old way still works. |
| 12:31.27 | CIA-23 | - added :UpdateAllForFrame(frame) |
| 12:31.28 | CIA-23 | - added :OnMouseoverUpdate(), to be called by the unit frames addon when the mouse enter/leaves the unit frame. |
| 12:31.33 | CIA-23 | - now properly registers with PARTY_LEADER_CHANGED |
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| 12:32.25 | ckknight | also a big optimization in there. |
| 12:33.07 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34426 10PitBull/ (4 files in 4 dirs): PitBull - updated for new DogTag API |
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| 12:44.56 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34427 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix the ismouseover tag to make actual sense. |
| 12:45.02 | evl | Hmms |
| 12:45.21 | evl | All heroic drops/rewards and world boe drops buffed by 10% |
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| 12:46.16 | Gagorian | Yeah I noticed some nice boosts |
| 12:46.38 | Gagorian | Too bad I don't have much item cache on PTR so I couldn't see more :( |
| 12:46.42 | Gngsk | nerf the consumables, buff the gear = less farming! |
| 12:48.13 | kebinusan | lets just make all bosses neutral and you can do daily rep quests with each of them for epics! |
| 12:48.35 | pastamancer | kebinusan: can I quest for epic hugs? |
| 12:48.46 | *** part/#wowace Kadish_ (n=Kadish@anubis.student.cwru.edu) |
| 12:48.57 | Prophh | what does DogTag do? |
| 12:48.58 | kebinusan | 3 2 1 Carebear stare! |
| 12:49.15 | ckknight | Prophh: tag system for unit frames |
| 12:52.16 | Prophh | what tag system? lol |
| 12:52.41 | ckknight | don't say lol |
| 12:52.46 | ckknight | look it up on the wiki |
| 12:52.48 | nevcairiel | does anyone know if there is a way to contact the SWS author? |
| 12:53.00 | kebinusan | swstats.net or somethin |
| 12:53.03 | kebinusan | maybe |
| 12:53.30 | kebinusan | http://www.sw-stats.com/ |
| 12:54.11 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 12:54.16 | nevcairiel | wonder if he responds there |
| 12:54.26 | nevcairiel | there is some really weird behaviour with syncing |
| 12:54.38 | kebinusan | looks like it |
| 12:55.17 | nevcairiel | Some people just dont sync |
| 12:55.21 | nevcairiel | Same client locale |
| 12:55.23 | nevcairiel | same version |
| 12:55.24 | nevcairiel | no sync. |
| 12:55.52 | Megalon | sw stats has heavy problems with string |
| 12:56.02 | Megalon | therefore is that extra addon |
| 12:56.08 | Megalon | swstats_fixlogstring |
| 12:56.16 | nevcairiel | they dont even show up in the sync channel |
| 12:56.24 | Megalon | but if you install it, other addons can stop working |
| 12:56.25 | Megalon | and so on |
| 12:56.30 | Megalon | hm |
| 12:56.34 | Megalon | latest version? |
| 12:56.37 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 12:56.39 | nevcairiel | 2.0.4 |
| 12:56.46 | Megalon | hm thats odd |
| 12:56.50 | nevcairiel | he doesnt even see himself in the log channel :P |
| 12:56.59 | Megalon | hm! |
| 12:57.19 | Megalon | ok, then there must be something wrong :D |
| 12:57.42 | kebinusan | have them disable everything but swstats |
| 12:57.49 | kebinusan | see if some other mod is causing the prob |
| 12:58.23 | kebinusan | and update even if they insist its the same version, nuke the swstats folder and install it again from curse or w/e |
| 12:58.50 | FISKER_Q | You open 3700 instances of notepad, you win |
| 12:59.08 | kebinusan | nice! |
| 12:59.27 | nevcairiel | kebinusan: i had him delete swstats and SVs |
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| 13:02.04 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: we have the same problem, a lot of users, but only 3 sync or something |
| 13:02.52 | FISKER_Q | hahahaha |
| 13:05.42 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: we have a lot syncing, but there are still some who dont show up at all .. and i am trying to figure out why. |
| 13:05.48 | nevcairiel | i should get that ShowAddonMsg thing |
| 13:08.54 | Vangual | does swstats still sync via a custom channel or is it all addon msgs now? |
| 13:09.03 | sylvanaar | you can use the sw-stats console to see what is happening |
| 13:09.17 | nevcairiel | its not showing anything. |
| 13:09.32 | sylvanaar | did you check all teh boxes? |
| 13:09.34 | [Ammo] | sws has some horrible coding |
| 13:09.36 | Vangual | i know we had lots of issues in naxx when people had a single letter capitalized in their syncchannel and others didn't. |
| 13:09.51 | sylvanaar | thats version 1.x |
| 13:10.16 | kebinusan | did you try disabling everything else? maybe some other mod they have is causing problems |
| 13:10.28 | sylvanaar | sws coding is pretty good ammo, at least 2.0 |
| 13:10.36 | [Ammo] | did you even read it? |
| 13:10.41 | sylvanaar | every line |
| 13:10.48 | [Ammo] | it's shite |
| 13:11.15 | sylvanaar | point to something specific that you think is terrible |
| 13:11.30 | kenlyric | it's not sexually offensive? |
| 13:11.32 | [Ammo] | I was checking the sync code |
| 13:11.45 | nevcairiel | I am not getting anything on RAID addon channel. |
| 13:12.40 | [Ammo] | because I wanted to make a violation module to read the sws sync's |
| 13:12.51 | sylvanaar | its not bad code, its complex |
| 13:12.57 | [Ammo] | it's unstructured |
| 13:13.03 | [Ammo] | it's tacked on at several places |
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| 13:14.52 | nevcairiel | the weird thing is |
| 13:14.58 | nevcairiel | i dont get ANYTHING from his SWS |
| 13:15.06 | nevcairiel | using the ViewAddonMessage |
| 13:15.10 | nevcairiel | i get oRA stuff |
| 13:15.11 | nevcairiel | KTM stuff |
| 13:15.13 | nevcairiel | everything |
| 13:15.14 | nevcairiel | no SWS |
| 13:16.29 | nevcairiel | trying disabling everything now |
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| 13:16.50 | sylvanaar | do you see you own? |
| 13:17.06 | Megalon | perhaps he has disabled synching? :P |
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| 13:17.28 | sylvanaar | that can be done using a script command |
| 13:17.40 | snirks | pitbull ToT borked |
| 13:17.55 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: yes i see my own |
| 13:17.55 | snirks | is it known_ |
| 13:17.56 | snirks | ? |
| 13:19.09 | nevcairiel | whats the command to disable syncing? |
| 13:19.12 | sylvanaar | he is the same locale as you? |
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| 13:19.40 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:19.48 | nevcairiel | actually, no |
| 13:19.51 | nevcairiel | but we tried that |
| 13:19.57 | nevcairiel | i switched to deDE and it didnt work either |
| 13:20.51 | sylvanaar | i think sync between locales doesnt work in the current versions or you both have to run fixlogstrings |
| 13:21.02 | nevcairiel | we both do |
| 13:21.08 | nevcairiel | plus i changed to the same locale |
| 13:21.10 | nevcairiel | and no-go |
| 13:21.13 | [Ammo] | fixlogstrings has nothing to do with that |
| 13:21.18 | [Ammo] | it only corrects some minor stuff |
| 13:21.18 | nevcairiel | annnd.. there are some with other locales |
| 13:21.20 | nevcairiel | that works. |
| 13:21.22 | [Ammo] | you can safely delete it |
| 13:21.28 | sylvanaar | in enUS its minro |
| 13:21.31 | sylvanaar | minor |
| 13:21.43 | sylvanaar | in other locales its FAR from minor |
| 13:21.43 | [Ammo] | it doesn't stop sws from working even in other locales |
| 13:21.56 | [Ammo] | but it breaks other addons hardstyle |
| 13:22.37 | Megalon | if you don't have enUS locale |
| 13:22.41 | Megalon | and don't run fixlogstrings |
| 13:22.53 | Megalon | your tracked values are |
| 13:22.55 | Megalon | worth... |
| 13:22.58 | [Ammo] | yeah they aer wrong |
| 13:22.59 | nevcairiel | true |
| 13:23.05 | nevcairiel | but they wont break the addon |
| 13:23.11 | Megalon | erm |
| 13:23.14 | Megalon | a tracking addon |
| 13:23.19 | Megalon | that tracks wrong values |
| 13:23.20 | Megalon | IS BROKEN |
| 13:23.22 | Megalon | ? |
| 13:23.28 | [Ammo] | you're not getting the point here megalon |
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| 13:23.33 | [Ammo] | the point is the addon is not syncing |
| 13:23.44 | [Ammo] | that has nothing to do with correct values or not |
| 13:23.53 | nevcairiel | his SWS is not sending one single addon message to me |
| 13:24.12 | nevcairiel | with being the only addon active. |
| 13:24.52 | nevcairiel | nuked SVs |
| 13:24.57 | nevcairiel | and nuked the install |
| 13:24.59 | nevcairiel | nuthing |
| 13:25.02 | kebinusan | what locale? |
| 13:25.04 | sylvanaar | the locale goes out in the sync message |
| 13:25.11 | nevcairiel | deDE |
| 13:25.20 | nevcairiel | i dont get ANY addon message |
| 13:25.25 | nevcairiel | i dump them with a simple addon |
| 13:26.17 | sylvanaar | ~ /dump SW_SYNC_DO |
| 13:26.25 | [Ammo] | tell him to do: SW_SYNC_TO_USE |
| 13:26.39 | [Ammo] | SW_SYNC_DO is set to true by default and if he's using fixlogstrings it shouldnt' change |
| 13:26.53 | sylvanaar | test that |
| 13:26.55 | [Ammo] | sync-to-use is the addon channel |
| 13:27.10 | [Ammo] | handydandy global pollution |
| 13:28.01 | sylvanaar | validate SW_SYNC_DO's value |
| 13:28.20 | nevcairiel | SYNC_TO_USE is RAID |
| 13:28.25 | [Ammo] | k |
| 13:28.25 | nevcairiel | SYNC_DO is false |
| 13:28.28 | nevcairiel | why? :o |
| 13:28.32 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 13:28.35 | [Ammo] | according to comments the parser failed to init |
| 13:29.32 | [Ammo] | but when that happens it should spam your chatlog |
| 13:29.40 | [Ammo] | with some message: Your data will not sync |
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| 13:31.02 | Silviu- | ckknight, tot have no name/hp etc on it and focus neighter |
| 13:31.13 | ckknight | now in English. |
| 13:31.22 | Silviu- | :) |
| 13:31.26 | Nickenyfiken | Target of Target? |
| 13:31.30 | Silviu- | Yes |
| 13:31.35 | ckknight | neighter? |
| 13:31.50 | ckknight | it shows up for me. |
| 13:31.52 | [Ammo] | neither |
| 13:31.53 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 13:32.06 | Silviu- | Hmm strange :/ |
| 13:32.13 | nadas | after updating i lost it as well |
| 13:32.17 | ckknight | update DogTag and PitBull? |
| 13:32.22 | nadas | for ToT, focus and target of focus |
| 13:32.33 | Silviu- | Yes i did both |
| 13:32.43 | ckknight | well, lemme check |
| 13:32.54 | nadas | actually, it shows for like half a second |
| 13:32.59 | nadas | then it goes away |
| 13:33.01 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:33.03 | nadas | the text that is |
| 13:33.06 | nevcairiel | it sets SYNC_DO to false |
| 13:33.10 | nevcairiel | when logstrings is not working |
| 13:33.37 | ckknight | hrm |
| 13:33.40 | ckknight | okay, reproduced |
| 13:33.43 | ckknight | lemme check it out. |
| 13:34.08 | Silviu- | Oky doky :) |
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| 13:35.03 | ckknight | ah, found the bug |
| 13:35.15 | nadas | and there was much rejoice |
| 13:35.39 | Gngsk | ckknight, prolly not related but when I use 'add unit' to add focustargettarget it works fine, but doesn't show up after reloadui |
| 13:35.58 | Gngsk | er, new unit frame not add unit |
| 13:36.04 | ckknight | Gngsk: you consider it worthwhile going into PitBull? |
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| 13:36.21 | Gngsk | well, I'd use it |
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| 13:36.32 | evl | focustargettarget, that shit is obscure :D |
| 13:36.33 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34428 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - bugfix in :UpdateAllForFrame |
| 13:36.35 | evl | please leave it out by default :P |
| 13:36.55 | Gngsk | yeah, prolly not worth being used, but I'd figure it should stay once I add it |
| 13:37.00 | Gngsk | er, worth being added |
| 13:37.15 | evl | waht do you use it for`? :P |
| 13:37.16 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34429 10Aloft/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:37.17 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 13:37.17 | CIA-23 | - short tag now shortens negative numbers too |
| 13:37.17 | CIA-23 | - Added powerTypeColor tag |
| 13:37.17 | CIA-23 | - .. and made ManaText module use it |
| 13:37.27 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel yeah, but you said it was |
| 13:37.43 | nevcairiel | i even let him /dump IsAddOnLoaded |
| 13:37.44 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:38.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:38.08 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 13:38.11 | nevcairiel | typo in the .toc of SW_Stats |
| 13:38.16 | nevcairiel | ## OptionalDeps: SW FixLogStrings |
| 13:38.19 | nevcairiel | whats wrong there? |
| 13:38.27 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34430 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add support for focustargettarget |
| 13:38.28 | sylvanaar | underbar |
| 13:38.37 | Gngsk | thx |
| 13:38.37 | ckknight | nevcairiel: needs _ |
| 13:38.38 | nevcairiel | right |
| 13:38.41 | nevcairiel | i know that |
| 13:38.52 | ckknight | Gngsk: may show up in the Disabled unit frames part |
| 13:39.06 | Gngsk | sounds good |
| 13:39.39 | wallen | ckknight: are you planning to look into the coloured borders issue sometimes |
| 13:39.41 | wallen | +? |
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| 13:39.44 | sylvanaar | why its an optional dep idk |
| 13:39.46 | ckknight | wallen: nope |
| 13:39.58 | ckknight | wallen: seeing as it works for me fine |
| 13:40.22 | wallen | I can't understand how that can be :/ |
| 13:40.32 | sylvanaar | is there no RequiredDeps line? |
| 13:40.42 | [Ammo] | it's not required |
| 13:40.43 | [Ammo] | it's optional |
| 13:40.48 | Silviu- | ty ckknight :) |
| 13:41.00 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34431 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - when disabling a unit frame, make the disabled units menu nicer. |
| 13:41.07 | sylvanaar | oh nm i was reversing it |
| 13:41.12 | ckknight | wallen: I heard other people fixed it by reinstalling |
| 13:41.52 | kenlyric | any idea which mod says "aggro' to me every time I fight a mob? |
| 13:41.57 | wallen | I installed it a lot of times as well as I deleted the WTF folders. It doesn't occur if I manually download Pitbull and don't split it into the modules directories |
| 13:42.02 | Fisker- | AgrroAlert |
| 13:42.02 | Gngsk | kenlyric, banzai |
| 13:42.06 | Fisker- | and Banzai |
| 13:42.07 | Fisker- | !1 |
| 13:42.14 | kenlyric | is that a new update to banzai? |
| 13:42.15 | sylvanaar | it prolly loaded before sw stats because it came first alphabetically |
| 13:42.22 | sylvanaar | does your friend use a mac? |
| 13:42.26 | Gngsk | kenlyric, nope |
| 13:42.29 | nevcairiel | ok i had him fix the .toc |
| 13:42.29 | kenlyric | because I don't recall that before a couple weeks ago. |
| 13:42.31 | nevcairiel | and restart game |
| 13:42.33 | nevcairiel | lets see |
| 13:42.41 | Silviu- | ckknight another question, can u make combopoints text more in middle? now is near the name text |
| 13:42.56 | ckknight | you do it |
| 13:43.01 | Silviu- | How ? |
| 13:43.06 | kenlyric | well,it's new in something. |
| 13:43.11 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: it's in BanzaiAlert |
| 13:43.17 | [Ammo] | and it's not new |
| 13:43.19 | kenlyric | but I don't have that mod. |
| 13:43.24 | [Ammo] | then it's in PitBull_Banzai |
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| 13:43.35 | kenlyric | nope |
| 13:43.40 | kenlyric | it's voodoo |
| 13:43.43 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel does he use a mac or nix os? |
| 13:43.44 | [Ammo] | voodoo? |
| 13:43.55 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: no win |
| 13:43.56 | kenlyric | yeah, magic, etc. |
| 13:44.00 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 13:44.03 | nevcairiel | HAH |
| 13:44.05 | nevcairiel | that fixed it |
| 13:44.13 | nevcairiel | yay \o/ |
| 13:44.28 | ckknight | Silviu-: hack the Layouts\ABF.lua file |
| 13:44.31 | sylvanaar | does he have buttonhole isntalled? |
| 13:44.40 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: no |
| 13:44.45 | kenlyric | is it maybe from a lib I didn't have before? |
| 13:44.47 | nevcairiel | only adding the underscore to the .toc made it work. |
| 13:44.54 | kenlyric | trying to remember if it happened before I switched to standalones. |
| 13:44.58 | Silviu- | Don`t like to hack a addon that i update every day :P |
| 13:45.05 | Silviu- | But it`s no real big deal |
| 13:45.06 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 13:45.08 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: search for aggro.wav |
| 13:45.34 | kenlyric | oh sure, give sensible advice, make me look stupid. |
| 13:45.45 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: whats buttonhole anyway? |
| 13:45.47 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel im just wondering why sw stats loads before sw_fixlogstrings if neither have any valid deps |
| 13:45.55 | [Ammo] | or babe.wav kenlyric |
| 13:46.03 | [Ammo] | and I'm not kidding |
| 13:46.11 | sylvanaar | i dunno, its one of SW_Stats optional deps |
| 13:46.44 | kenlyric | it's GridAlert |
| 13:46.54 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34432 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - update member list on PARTY_LEADER_CHANGED |
| 13:46.57 | [Ammo] | I like the aggro sound |
| 13:47.03 | snirks | ckknight: ToT is borked |
| 13:47.10 | kenlyric | I love the aggro sound in groups |
| 13:47.10 | [Ammo] | I hear that sound on maulgar I hit shatter :p |
| 13:47.13 | Silviu- | snirks update :P |
| 13:47.23 | snirks | ah must be recent |
| 13:47.23 | ckknight | snirks: I don't believe you. |
| 13:47.29 | kenlyric | considering I don't show grid while solo, it really shouldn't play. |
| 13:47.30 | snirks | i updated a short hour ago |
| 13:47.38 | ckknight | well, I fixed it |
| 13:47.43 | sylvanaar | perhaps sw_stats is an optional dep of one of his addons |
| 13:47.49 | snirks | okie :) |
| 13:48.18 | sylvanaar | like KTM |
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| 13:48.50 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r34433 10BulkMail/: |
| 13:48.51 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: |
| 13:48.51 | CIA-23 | - Branch for major breakage-inducing changes in-progress |
| 13:49.20 | syeren | ckknight, my ToT and ToToT refuse to show the name :/ |
| 13:49.25 | syeren | Any idea? |
| 13:49.27 | ckknight | JESUS FUCKING CHRIST |
| 13:49.30 | syeren | Or anything I can do to help you find it :P? |
| 13:49.31 | ckknight | UPDATE YOU ASSHOLE |
| 13:49.36 | kenlyric | sweet, there's no setting for grouped/ungrouped. |
| 13:49.38 | syeren | I updated fucking 20 minutes ago. |
| 13:49.51 | ckknight | well, then you should've just read up 10 lines. |
| 13:49.53 | snirks | ToT doesnt show text |
| 13:50.00 | ckknight | when I said I fixed it |
| 13:50.10 | snirks | i just updated ckknight |
| 13:50.19 | ckknight | well, WAU takes 20 minutes to update |
| 13:50.24 | ckknight | now deal with it till then. |
| 13:50.25 | [Ammo] | use SVN |
| 13:50.31 | ckknight | well, files takes 20 minutes to update, I mean |
| 13:50.33 | Silviu- | snirks u need to wait 20 mins :) |
| 13:50.35 | nevcairiel | man, what a bug to track down |
| 13:50.38 | snirks | gotcha |
| 13:50.39 | nevcairiel | amazing that i found it |
| 13:50.41 | [Ammo] | hehe nevc yeah |
| 13:50.47 | [Ammo] | kinda silly |
| 13:51.07 | ckknight | if anybody asks me about that bug again like a big noob without reading up a few lines, I'm seriously going to kick them. |
| 13:51.38 | Chompers | hey ck, i've got a PitBull problem |
| 13:51.40 | Chompers | oh... |
| 13:51.43 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:52.03 | [Ammo] | stop using alpha software :p |
| 13:52.05 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 13:52.10 | snirks | the first person to note the bug |
| 13:52.11 | kenlyric | amen. |
| 13:52.12 | nevcairiel | ckknight: my ToToT is not working because i disabled it. do something about it plx :) |
| 13:52.14 | snirks | and tell you, ckknight |
| 13:52.17 | snirks | is he a noob_ |
| 13:52.20 | Silviu- | Chompers don`t say .. |
| 13:52.22 | Silviu- | :)))) |
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| 13:52.47 | kenlyric | snirks: and hence the qualification "without reading up a few lines" |
| 13:52.50 | snirks | and all the following people doing the same, wanting to give you a headsup in case you dont know that there's a bugh |
| 13:52.53 | sylvanaar | a typo in the toc? SW_FixLogStrings would normally load before SW_Stats based on thier names |
| 13:53.03 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 13:53.07 | [Ammo] | no guarantees on that |
| 13:53.11 | nevcairiel | no one is really sure about loading order |
| 13:53.12 | nevcairiel | but |
| 13:53.15 | nevcairiel | it fixed it for him |
| 13:53.20 | nevcairiel | and i guess for everyone else |
| 13:53.24 | sylvanaar | yes its alphabetical on windows |
| 13:53.40 | [Ammo] | it's alphabetical when you have your files set to show in alphabetical order |
| 13:53.52 | [Ammo] | but I suspect that if you change those settings the wow loading order changes as well |
| 13:54.12 | nevcairiel | wonder if i should alert the author |
| 13:54.19 | nevcairiel | "alert" is kinda a hard word |
| 13:54.22 | nevcairiel | for that bug. |
| 13:54.25 | nevcairiel | notify |
| 13:54.27 | nevcairiel | more |
| 13:54.27 | snirks | kenlyric: all i mean to say is that they do it out of good nature or whatever |
| 13:54.55 | sylvanaar | just post it on his forum |
| 13:54.57 | kenlyric | you apparently haven't spent very much time around developers :) |
| 13:56.01 | sylvanaar | hes about to release a new version so its a good time |
| 13:56.04 | [Ammo] | anyone downloading stuff from files.wowace.com should expect a world of pain |
| 13:56.44 | snirks | on the contrary |
| 13:56.47 | [Ammo] | we need a wowace linebacker ala terry tate |
| 13:56.48 | kebinusan | I used to cut myself, now I just svn up * |
| 13:58.13 | sylvanaar | ill do it for you if you want nev |
| 13:58.23 | nevcairiel | i posted on curse |
| 13:58.28 | nevcairiel | feel free to post on his forums |
| 13:58.32 | nevcairiel | i dont feel like registering |
| 13:58.37 | sylvanaar | he doesnt read curse, ill pm him |
| 13:59.04 | nevcairiel | well maybe i could help someone else with posting on curse |
| 13:59.51 | nevcairiel | oh btw |
| 13:59.58 | nevcairiel | thank god for /dump in AceConsole |
| 14:00.05 | nevcairiel | so everyone has it :) |
| 14:00.51 | kebinusan | my fav thing is /print, nice for all that funky math stuff w/o alt tabbing |
| 14:01.04 | nevcairiel | dump can do that too |
| 14:01.05 | sylvanaar | yeah /print 1+1 rox |
| 14:01.06 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:01.13 | Fisker- | you don't know what 1+1 is? |
| 14:01.33 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.33 | nevcairiel | well, do you? |
| 14:01.40 | kebinusan | checking for really high values of 1 |
| 14:02.00 | nevcairiel | yeah on frames is great |
| 14:02.14 | Fisker- | it's 2 nevcairiel |
| 14:02.21 | Fisker- | just had to open up wow and use /print to verify |
| 14:02.24 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: no its 0 |
| 14:02.31 | sylvanaar | do /print 1.0 + 1.0 |
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| 14:02.38 | sylvanaar | is that 2.0? |
| 14:02.44 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:02.55 | Silviu- | 2 |
| 14:02.55 | Silviu- | :) |
| 14:02.56 | nevcairiel | lua only has one "number" type |
| 14:03.06 | sylvanaar | hm? |
| 14:03.16 | nevcairiel | ints and floats are all the same for lua |
| 14:03.26 | Fisker- | i don't like where this is going |
| 14:03.36 | sylvanaar | they are both doubles |
| 14:03.44 | nevcairiel | it doesnt show any .0 if its not needed |
| 14:03.51 | nevcairiel | just makes it an int |
| 14:04.04 | [Ammo] | if you want the .0 to show use printf :p |
| 14:04.19 | [Ammo] | or your favorite string formatting ofcourse |
| 14:04.41 | sylvanaar | i dont think that was waht i was getting at |
| 14:05.04 | nevcairiel | lua does not differentiate between integers and floats |
| 14:05.26 | nevcairiel | all one big number |
| 14:06.13 | [Ammo] | hrmf at slow google-code svn |
| 14:06.13 | sylvanaar | that seems stupid |
| 14:06.18 | krka | behind the scenes, it's just doubles |
| 14:06.21 | sylvanaar | they are both represented as doubles |
| 14:06.29 | sylvanaar | which is stupid |
| 14:06.37 | krka | sylvanaar: it simplifies the lua engine |
| 14:06.57 | krka | having an int type would complicate math operations |
| 14:06.59 | sylvanaar | whatever, thats written in c |
| 14:07.06 | kebinusan | hm, so bliz is reitemizing all level 70 epics |
| 14:07.06 | sylvanaar | which has both types |
| 14:07.10 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r34434 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail-enUS.lua BulkMail.lua BulkMail.toc lib/ lib/Ace2/): |
| 14:07.10 | CIA-23 | BulkMail: 0.9.0 branch |
| 14:07.10 | CIA-23 | - complete re-working of internal logic |
| 14:07.10 | CIA-23 | - autosend to be a simple rules-based system with a GUI |
| 14:07.10 | CIA-23 | - gui 63% finished; logic changes 10% finished |
| 14:07.11 | CIA-23 | - does NOT work; branched for development only. Shoo! Go 'way! |
| 14:07.17 | krka | also, would it automatically convert 2.5 / 2.5 to the integer 1 or keep it as a double? |
| 14:07.39 | krka | would need to add if statements after all math operations |
| 14:07.46 | krka | and convert to double before all math operations |
| 14:08.00 | krka | basically, there's no real point to having an int-type |
| 14:08.46 | sylvanaar | huh what makes you say that, and why are there mod and fmod then |
| 14:09.40 | sylvanaar | theres a real good point to integer types, they are fast |
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| 14:11.01 | nevcairiel | does anyone know if Alchemist Stone affects Dreamless Sleep Potions? |
| 14:11.04 | sedatedChipmunk | the question is: is the speedup worth the effort to support? |
| 14:11.16 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: http://www.lua.org/pil/2.3.html |
| 14:11.19 | krka | integers themselves are fast yes |
| 14:11.21 | [Ammo] | it says there it doesn't need it |
| 14:11.28 | krka | but having to check type and convert slows it down |
| 14:11.33 | [Ammo] | that's all the explanation I need :) |
| 14:11.43 | krka | with floating point processors, i am not sure it's a speedup at all |
| 14:12.37 | kebinusan | http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4155/lolspiritnz0.jpg |
| 14:12.42 | krka | with typed variables and a smart compiler / vm, integers would be a good idea though |
| 14:12.43 | kebinusan | this spirit bug on the ptr is funny |
| 14:12.49 | krka | then you could eliminate conversions and checks |
| 14:12.51 | CIA-23 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 070.9 * r34435 10BulkMail/lib/PeriodicTable/: |
| 14:12.51 | CIA-23 | BulkMail-0.9.0: |
| 14:12.51 | CIA-23 | - get rid of old PT2 directory; will be using PT3 now |
| 14:12.52 | [Ammo] | krka: the floating point speed is what they say in the pil as well |
| 14:13.36 | FISKER_Q | what does bulkmail use PT for? |
| 14:13.49 | kebinusan | auto queueing of items to send |
| 14:13.59 | kebinusan | like say every time you visit the mailbox you want to send all herbs to your herb alt |
| 14:14.11 | FISKER_Q | :O |
| 14:14.18 | dotted | http://beavisbush.istheshit.net/ tbh |
| 14:14.19 | FISKER_Q | But that's like 1 billion tiems better than postal |
| 14:15.04 | kebinusan | heh, yeah its nice |
| 14:15.12 | sedatedChipmunk | little preview of where i'm at now with the gui: http://69.14.77.214/bmasui.png |
| 14:15.13 | kenlyric | ooh, give it an option where it only sends full stacks! |
| 14:15.18 | sedatedChipmunk | obviously incomplete |
| 14:15.49 | hyperChipmunk | but you can see where it's going |
| 14:15.57 | kebinusan | looks nice |
| 14:16.00 | kenlyric | though I guess I could stop being a cheap-ass and just send everything I have when I visit a mailbox. |
| 14:16.07 | hyperChipmunk | i'll have PT3, item cat, and single item rules to begin with |
| 14:16.16 | hyperChipmunk | rofl ken |
| 14:16.23 | hyperChipmunk | 30c oh noz |
| 14:16.29 | Neebler | so I just took a shower and had a whole bunch of extra shampoo foam in my hair, so I grabbed a foamy ball of it and rubbed it into my pubes. who else does that?! |
| 14:16.38 | Neebler | oops wrong channel |
| 14:16.48 | kenlyric | hey, that's like 3-5 silver a time. |
| 14:17.07 | kebinusan | do I want to know what channel thats an appropriate topic for |
| 14:17.22 | knarf- | hyperChipmunk what mod is that? :E |
| 14:17.22 | kenlyric | no it wasn't neebler. |
| 14:17.26 | kenlyric | you're only one one channel |
| 14:17.41 | Neebler | IRC is many many networks |
| 14:17.50 | kenlyric | so, wrong network. |
| 14:17.58 | kenlyric | ;) |
| 14:18.00 | kebinusan | yeah thats clearly efnet conversation there |
| 14:18.07 | FISKER_Q | knarf- bulkmail |
| 14:18.17 | FISKER_Q | well the branched version of it anyways |
| 14:18.25 | hyperChipmunk | knarf-: that's the new bulkmail that doesn't do anything yet |
| 14:18.33 | knarf- | amazing :) |
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| 14:18.41 | knarf- | Autosend sounds cute |
| 14:18.57 | kebinusan | its nice |
| 14:19.12 | kebinusan | We have a guilddonate toon that everything gets sent to |
| 14:19.26 | hyperChipmunk | it's handy; but so many people don't know it exists that i figured it needed some love |
| 14:19.27 | kebinusan | then I just let bulkmail send it out to the right mule |
| 14:20.34 | sylvanaar | meh krka it calls a tonumber function for every number in lua |
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| 14:24.17 | krka | yeah, i disagree with that too |
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| 14:25.13 | krka | if by that you mean the math ops, of course |
| 14:25.19 | sylvanaar | i do |
| 14:25.25 | krka | converting strings to numbers is icky |
| 14:25.32 | krka | "1" + 1 should be an error |
| 14:26.08 | knarf- | hyperChipmunk What else does it doo ? |
| 14:26.22 | sylvanaar | i like stongly typed languages what can i say |
| 14:26.23 | Health | You are an error krka |
| 14:26.47 | krka | :( |
| 14:26.52 | krka | you are my pcall! |
| 14:26.55 | [Ammo] | we have a pet project language here at the office that you can say: 1 = 2 |
| 14:26.59 | [Ammo] | kinda funky :p |
| 14:27.08 | [Ammo] | redefine 1 |
| 14:27.28 | sylvanaar | sounds like a preprocessor |
| 14:27.42 | krka | sounds like a broken design |
| 14:27.43 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r34436 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: - Hydross: show Proximity on Engage as well, minor tweaks |
| 14:28.00 | sylvanaar | sounds like a bug factory |
| 14:28.07 | nevcairiel | too bad "true=false" errors in lua |
| 14:28.30 | [Ammo] | it's a pet project |
| 14:28.32 | [Ammo] | and it's fun |
| 14:28.39 | sylvanaar | but 0 is true right? |
| 14:28.41 | [Ammo] | it's just for shits and giggles so to speak |
| 14:28.47 | nevcairiel | false and nil are false |
| 14:28.51 | nevcairiel | everything else is true |
| 14:29.37 | sylvanaar | i find the fact that 0 is true distasteful, but im a c/c++ programmer |
| 14:30.10 | FISKER_Q | oh fukken lol |
| 14:30.20 | FISKER_Q | The gate connecting durotar and orgrimmar is crashing people |
| 14:30.22 | krka | i personally think only true / false should be allowed in if-statements in that way |
| 14:30.22 | FISKER_Q | i can't get in again |
| 14:30.23 | FISKER_Q | :( |
| 14:30.31 | krka | but leaving that aside, i see no problem with letting 0 be true |
| 14:30.58 | [Ammo] | if it's a known fact it's not really an issue |
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| 14:31.03 | hyperChipmunk | knarf-: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BulkMail/README |
| 14:31.05 | sylvanaar | yeah, except there is no number which will convert to false |
| 14:31.11 | krka | java got boolean expressions right |
| 14:31.18 | krka | if (0) is illegal code |
| 14:31.37 | krka | sylvanaar: what does there need to be? |
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| 14:32.18 | Health | Shut it html programmer! |
| 14:32.26 | sylvanaar | what do you think Lua represents booleans with? |
| 14:32.38 | sylvanaar | numbers |
| 14:32.42 | nevcairiel | one byte |
| 14:32.45 | sylvanaar | no |
| 14:32.45 | nevcairiel | what else |
| 14:33.21 | sylvanaar | one sizeof(char) prolly |
| 14:33.58 | krka | actually, lua values is a union, so booleans will be the same size as all the other types |
| 14:34.00 | yacoob | http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19095&type=wmv&pl=game - makes me a bit less sad about game developers in my country |
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| 14:34.13 | sylvanaar | oh thats even worse |
| 14:34.24 | krka | how would you have implemented it? |
| 14:34.33 | Health | krka is lua |
| 14:34.50 | krka | thanks! |
| 14:35.05 | nevcairiel | i couldnt even think about designing a language |
| 14:35.12 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34437 10Aloft/ (Modules/ManaData.lua Options/Modules/ManaText.lua): |
| 14:35.12 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 14:35.12 | CIA-23 | - Made Mana powerTypeColor brighter |
| 14:35.12 | CIA-23 | - Added option to color by type, default to off |
| 14:35.17 | nevcairiel | altho i will have to |
| 14:35.19 | nevcairiel | for university |
| 14:36.02 | sylvanaar | in any event its a number |
| 14:36.29 | CIA-23 | 03bam * r34438 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
| 14:36.29 | CIA-23 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 14:36.30 | CIA-23 | - Bug-fix: Missing argument for tooltips in trade window. |
| 14:36.30 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r34439 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs-Hydross: dont string.format on strings which dont need it. |
| 14:36.47 | nevcairiel | i think i am finally done with commiting to that one |
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| 14:37.38 | krka | sylvanaar: sure, all data structures are implemented as numbers in some way |
| 14:37.45 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:37.58 | nevcairiel | yeah everything breaks down to numbers, if you go low enough :) |
| 14:38.05 | tlund | are there known issues with "Postal"? im having big problems, "open all" hangs after 1 or 2 items, and checking 3 random items and clicking "open" opens the first one correctly, but takes the wrong items for the other two |
| 14:38.26 | [Ammo] | it has worked fine for me |
| 14:38.42 | tlund | weird, maby some other mod is interfering then... |
| 14:38.44 | [Ammo] | but there may be issues if you have some kind of bag mod that touches your bags |
| 14:38.49 | [Ammo] | if it gets a new item |
| 14:38.56 | tlund | no, nothing that moves stuff around, no. |
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| 14:39.33 | deltron | my coworker downed the void boss in the eye |
| 14:40.11 | Gngsk | he's supposed to be fairly easy, no? |
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| 14:41.03 | tlund | are there any alternatives to Postal? |
| 14:41.33 | nevcairiel | CT_MailMod |
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| 14:45.41 | tlund | nevcairiel: i was hoping for an ace-based one :) |
| 14:46.09 | nevcairiel | the CT one is not bad |
| 14:47.05 | Bruners | gmail |
| 14:47.13 | Bruners | but i think it was pulled |
| 14:48.43 | Kaydeethree | gmail was straight copyright infringement of ct_mailmod. all they did was do some string replacement iirc |
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| 14:49.38 | Callide|Tjockpr | hey |
| 14:49.47 | Callide|Tjockpr | anyone got Antiarcs email/msn? |
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| 14:53.13 | FISKER_Q | bah |
| 14:53.16 | FISKER_Q | can't log on :( |
| 14:53.21 | FISKER_Q | fix mah server |
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| 14:54.49 | Bam__ | how frequent is http://files.wowace.com updated? |
| 14:55.23 | FISKER_Q | each 20 minutes |
| 14:55.27 | FISKER_Q | 0,20,40,0 |
| 14:55.30 | Bam__ | FISKER_Q: cheers |
| 14:55.42 | FISKER_Q | Unless Kaelten_ changed it recently of course |
| 14:55.55 | Bam__ | that is the server WAU uses, right? |
| 14:56.01 | FISKER_Q | yup |
| 14:56.05 | Bam__ | okies |
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| 14:58.12 | Lyf | Hi all |
| 14:58.25 | Bam__ | howdy |
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| 14:59.10 | Lyf | The thing is, I love fiddling around with my addons and such but I don't have any lua skills etc. However, I would like to help out anyway and heard I might find something to do on this channel? |
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| 14:59.33 | Lyf | not sure how I can contribute when I can't code addons but yea.. |
| 15:00.08 | sylvanaar | krka in lua's implementation 1 is true, here's a comment from the source /* true must be 1 !! */ |
| 15:00.48 | Bam__ | Lyf: I dont know... but you could always install some newer addons and test them :) |
| 15:01.15 | hyperChipmunk | Lyf: you multilingual by chance? |
| 15:01.17 | krka | sylvanaar: your point? lua is implemented in c, of course it will use c semantics |
| 15:01.22 | sylvanaar | i just dont get why they masked that out |
| 15:01.48 | sylvanaar | why go out of your way to make 0 true |
| 15:02.39 | sylvanaar | not that it really matters, im just curious |
| 15:02.40 | hyperChipmunk | because only nil and false are false |
| 15:02.42 | Lyf | Sure, I could test some addons I guess. Chipmunk: I'm Danish and my German ain't good enough I'm afraid :( |
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| 15:03.15 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 15:03.40 | Bam__ | Danish doesn't help much...... (I'm Danish too btw... hehe) |
| 15:04.41 | sylvanaar | 0 is false because the CPU treats it as false which is why C does |
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| 15:08.30 | Neebler | http://www.thejavajive.com/images/blog/vertigo-dreamscape.jpg |
| 15:09.10 | Callide|Tjockpr | Anyone know how i can reach Antiarc? ^^ |
| 15:09.12 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: why add a proximity module? |
| 15:09.13 | Bam__ | well C is basically machine code, that's why it's straight forward using 0 as false in C |
| 15:09.41 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: have you at least done him, not like the other guys there ? :p |
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| 15:09.57 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: he is on farm for our guild |
| 15:10.52 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: so, dont you think, the proxy check could help a guild which is still learning? in water phase? |
| 15:10.59 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: considering they would be better worrying about if they will kill it it 10minutes, i don't think so |
| 15:11.58 | [Ammo] | same could be said from gruul, curator etc |
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| 15:11.58 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 15:11.58 | nevcairiel | well, if they get tombed all the time, and possibly even die because of that, they wont do dmg |
| 15:11.59 | Bam__ | omg |
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| 15:12.00 | [Ammo] | SPLIT |
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| 15:12.00 | [Ammo] | haha |
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| 15:13.00 | Bam__ | some ISP dropped? |
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| 15:13.00 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: for learning the encounter, i think that feature can be useful. if you really cannot be convinced .. remove it again .. but leave my other fixes in :D |
| 15:13.04 | [Ammo] | anyone not wanting it can click the X |
| 15:13.04 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: well i know in my guild no one cares about range, i think adding a monitor will make people worry, when theres really nothing to worry about |
| 15:13.06 | [Ammo] | and will not be bothered with it again |
| 15:13.22 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: im not saying remove it, im just saying prove its useful :p |
| 15:13.24 | [Ammo] | the monitor should only show when 'needed' |
| 15:13.36 | nevcairiel | it will hide in nature phase |
| 15:13.39 | nevcairiel | and only show in water |
| 15:14.00 | nevcairiel | and imho water tomb can be an issue. at least with our raid-idiots it is :P |
| 15:14.20 | Funkeh` | alright |
| 15:15.01 | nevcairiel | once we at least killed him once |
| 15:15.09 | nevcairiel | it will prolly not be an issue |
| 15:15.21 | [Ammo] | you'd be amazed how big an issue gruul is for us :( |
| 15:15.29 | nevcairiel | we did get to 12% yesterday, missing dps :( |
| 15:15.42 | Funkeh` | we did it the poison only way |
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| 15:15.44 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:15.47 | nevcairiel | fail in 2.1 |
| 15:15.47 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:15.51 | Funkeh` | i look forward to doing it the other way after patch |
| 15:16.00 | nevcairiel | we decided to not even do it the posion only way |
| 15:16.01 | Funkeh` | not really since hes nerfed to kindon come :p |
| 15:16.06 | nevcairiel | because of 2.1 |
| 15:16.10 | Funkeh` | kingdom* |
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| 15:16.46 | Kilroo | Posion only? |
| 15:16.51 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 15:17.00 | nevcairiel | just hope the MT survives |
| 15:17.17 | Kilroo | Who's Posion? |
| 15:17.25 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: if you it posion only .. you dont know how much a pain those water tombs can be .. heh |
| 15:17.30 | Funkeh` | where do you see posion? |
| 15:17.31 | nevcairiel | *do it |
| 15:17.38 | nevcairiel | poison |
| 15:17.38 | Funkeh` | poison i said |
| 15:17.41 | nevcairiel | damn typos |
| 15:17.47 | nevcairiel | ive been doing it all the time |
| 15:17.47 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:17.52 | Kaydeethree | that way's not gonna work in 2.1, though... with the stacking to 500% |
| 15:17.55 | Funkeh` | i mean Kilroo |
| 15:17.56 | Kilroo | Ah. |
| 15:18.34 | Funkeh` | like i said though, they nerf him that bad that the 2 stance method is a lot easier |
| 15:18.43 | kebinusan | hmm, prat have a module that prevents urls from showing up in channels? |
| 15:18.51 | Kilroo | I presume the "poison only way" has something to do with some boss. |
| 15:18.57 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 15:18.59 | nevcairiel | Hydross |
| 15:19.01 | kebinusan | I type www.mmo-champion.com in o chat and I dont see the text |
| 15:19.12 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:19.12 | nevcairiel | kebinusan: nah, its a blizzard filter |
| 15:19.14 | FISKER_Q | http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5923/lol4th.jpg |
| 15:19.15 | FISKER_Q | ;D |
| 15:19.18 | nevcairiel | mmo is getting filterd |
| 15:19.23 | FISKER_Q | so is bukowski |
| 15:19.42 | Funkeh` | thats old FISKER_Q :P |
| 15:19.50 | FISKER_Q | apparently their filter doesn't take into effect that other words might be constructed with gold spammer sites |
| 15:20.28 | kebinusan | nevcairiel: thanks, stupid blizzard spam filter |
| 15:20.31 | Kilroo | I think the guild I was in may have disappeared. |
| 15:21.01 | Kaydeethree | "/say mmo" is working just fine |
| 15:21.12 | sylvanaar | lol what |
| 15:21.37 | sylvanaar | kebinusan prevents? |
| 15:21.58 | nevcairiel | i think the filter is a bit more advanced |
| 15:22.01 | nevcairiel | with urls and stuff |
| 15:22.05 | Funkeh` | yeah i type the word kebinusan and it gets filtered |
| 15:22.09 | Funkeh` | must be a hate thing |
| 15:22.12 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:22.13 | kebinusan | yeah I went into interface options and disabled the spam filter |
| 15:22.19 | kebinusan | apparently I had it enabled |
| 15:22.35 | deltron | lol FISKER_Q |
| 15:22.44 | deltron | when did they get a spam filter? |
| 15:22.55 | sylvanaar | been there for a while |
| 15:23.01 | sylvanaar | sicne 2.0 at least |
| 15:23.05 | deltron | oh, that's a lousy way of doing it |
| 15:23.34 | kenlyric | yeah, no warning, no indication that it's happening. |
| 15:24.10 | deltron | you probably get added to their database of spammers |
| 15:24.50 | kebinusan | yeah just hey that thing I typed didnt show up for some reason is pretty silly |
| 15:24.52 | sylvanaar | mod authors have written all the ui enhancements they need, they need to lose the NIH |
| 15:24.56 | Kaydeethree | "/say mmo-champion" and "/say mmo-champion.com" are still working even with the filters enabled |
| 15:25.23 | nevcairiel | prolly needs a www |
| 15:25.26 | kenlyric | it's the http:// that kills it |
| 15:25.42 | kenlyric | and maybe the www. |
| 15:25.59 | kebinusan | www.mmo-champion.com has a good list of the changes is what I typed |
| 15:26.15 | kebinusan | was talking about ptr changes |
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| 15:27.15 | FISKER_Q | /guild mmo-champion.com works as well you just can't see it yourself |
| 15:27.28 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 15:27.40 | Ordog | noticed that too |
| 15:27.44 | CIA-23 | 03ruinna * r34440 10FuBar_BongosFu/README.txt: FuBar_BongosFu: added README doc |
| 15:27.52 | Kaydeethree | nah, the string "www.mmo-champion.com" is filtered |
| 15:27.53 | FISKER_Q | however /whisper doesnøt |
| 15:27.54 | FISKER_Q | doesn't |
| 15:27.56 | Kaydeethree | just leave out the www bit |
| 15:28.04 | Ordog | the only change is that you cant see messages containing certain urls |
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| 15:28.37 | Ordog | others can see them completely, tried with several gold selling sites |
| 15:28.37 | sylvanaar | try it starting with the "." |
| 15:28.57 | Kaydeethree | works |
| 15:29.17 | CIA-23 | 03kagaro * r34441 10eePanels/libs/: eePanels: Added SharedMedia to externals |
| 15:30.15 | sylvanaar | maybe it uses a scoring system |
| 15:30.39 | [Ammo] | it's a blizzard implementation |
| 15:30.48 | sylvanaar | right |
| 15:30.59 | [Ammo] | it probably uses a system with ducktape and tie-wraps |
| 15:31.01 | kebinusan | so its probably just a db table with a list of 'very bad' things |
| 15:31.03 | sylvanaar | no way they could get a scoring system to work |
| 15:31.22 | [Ammo] | time to get home befoe buss leaves |
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| 15:33.36 | sylvanaar | ok, i have a new question, why use false instead of nil (unless nil ~= false for your code) |
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| 15:34.47 | Bam__ | well personally I wish they had left out false completely and just said everything but nil is true |
| 15:34.54 | sylvanaar | wouldnt it be better to use nil instead of false |
| 15:35.04 | ArcaneFoam | test |
| 15:35.06 | nevcairiel | whats your issue with false? |
| 15:35.08 | sylvanaar | well, sometimes you need nil |
| 15:35.19 | sylvanaar | false takes up memory |
| 15:35.24 | sylvanaar | nil doesnt |
| 15:35.29 | nevcairiel | so? |
| 15:35.41 | sylvanaar | why use false |
| 15:35.44 | CIA-23 | 03ruinna * r34442 10FuBar_BongosFu/ (4 files): FuBar_BongosFu: modified svn:eol-style props on text files to force dos encoding |
| 15:35.59 | ArcaneFoam | Can some 1 give me a hand on how to send a slash comand using Ace? Will AceConsole work? |
| 15:36.57 | Bam__ | you could use false in a table if you for some reason need to keep the key in the table but want t[index] to be false |
| 15:37.06 | Bam__ | not saying it's a good use.. |
| 15:37.30 | sylvanaar | yeah, i know - three are cases where you should use it, but in general nil is better |
| 15:37.47 | Bam__ | agreed... causes less confusion |
| 15:37.52 | nevcairiel | the memory from one false value really should not matter. |
| 15:38.17 | nevcairiel | plus for readabilty, i would prefer false |
| 15:38.24 | nevcairiel | its just more common .. true and false for booleans. |
| 15:38.28 | sylvanaar | nah, false takes 32 bits |
| 15:38.28 | nevcairiel | true and nil .. just weird |
| 15:39.03 | sylvanaar | or more possibly |
| 15:39.13 | Bam__ | that is probably the reason they chose to include false... though I think the semantics would have been simpler without it |
| 15:39.54 | sylvanaar | they included it because nil does have a meaning of its own - SQL has nil too |
| 15:40.40 | ArcaneFoam | some programs like VB have trouble with nil values, they can cause big bugs/crashes |
| 15:40.59 | sylvanaar | yep |
| 15:41.18 | sylvanaar | i hated nil in vb, everything had to be checked for it |
| 15:41.20 | Bam__ | hehe... all languages with pointers have that problem... probably the most common error are nil-pointer errors |
| 15:41.39 | Wobin | That's isn't necessarily a 'nil' problem |
| 15:41.46 | Wobin | more a reference problem =) |
| 15:42.11 | ArcaneFoam | yep, or a function receiving a nil value... i hate to add the extra nil test code |
| 15:42.37 | Wobin | yes, well VB... you get what you deserved with that language =) |
| 15:42.51 | Bam__ | one of the few things I llike in C++ are references because they cannot be nil |
| 15:42.52 | ArcaneFoam | lol |
| 15:43.00 | Bam__ | well in theory at least |
| 15:43.08 | sylvanaar | yeah, i know what its for and why its there, it was just a pita in vb because of COM |
| 15:44.04 | sylvanaar | yeah, you use the NullObject pattern in C++ |
| 15:45.14 | ArcaneFoam | can ne 1 gime a hand with my question? |
| 15:45.29 | sylvanaar | java too |
| 15:46.18 | Bam__ | ArcaneFoam: AceConsole can be used to make slash commands yes... not sure if that was your question exactly though :P |
| 15:47.00 | Killmore7 | yo! |
| 15:47.01 | sylvanaar | you want to send a slash command? you do ChatFrame1:OpenChat("/yourcommand") |
| 15:47.29 | Bam__ | oh programmatically send one.. didn't catch that :P |
| 15:47.34 | ArcaneFoam | yes |
| 15:47.39 | sylvanaar | or you use sendchatmessage |
| 15:48.13 | ArcaneFoam | i was using AceConsolo with the self:Print("message")... but that does get the slash comand executed |
| 15:48.37 | tophero | morning guys |
| 15:48.41 | ArcaneFoam | morning |
| 15:48.45 | Bam__ | well you don't need Ace to do it |
| 15:48.49 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34443 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: SC/Hydross: cleanups |
| 15:48.52 | sylvanaar | just try ChatFrame1:OpenChat |
| 15:49.01 | ArcaneFoam | okies |
| 15:49.01 | Bam__ | listen to sylvanaar .. he is an expert chatter :P |
| 15:49.06 | ArcaneFoam | lol |
| 15:49.07 | tophero | is there a replacement mod that does something similar to what warmup used to do? |
| 15:49.33 | Kaydeethree | we get it in the default ui with 2.1 |
| 15:49.36 | sylvanaar | ChatFrame_OpenChat("/yourcommand") |
| 15:49.40 | Kaydeethree | much better than warmup's estimation |
| 15:49.59 | todd` | it's actually built into the default ui? I thought they were just providing functions for it |
| 15:50.01 | tophero | ah ok, i had read that those sort of changes were being enabled |
| 15:50.36 | Kaydeethree | the top three memory-users will be in the tooltip of the latency bar |
| 15:50.37 | Bam__ | yea but there will be addons that provide more detailed information I assume |
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| 15:51.07 | Bam__ | PerformanceFu is ready for it, I think? |
| 15:51.50 | todd` | what I don't like is that for each character I have to do a bunch of setup for my ui |
| 15:51.57 | todd` | it seems like some mods stay the same |
| 15:52.02 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 15:52.04 | Tornhoof | i don't think we'll see 2.1 in may anymore |
| 15:52.08 | todd` | but others like bartender I have to fix settings for |
| 15:52.12 | Bam__ | the curse of Blizzard :P |
| 15:52.12 | tophero | ah ok, i knew that there had been issue with warmup and the accuracy of what it had been showing and that the default changes were in order but didn't know if there was anything that had come in between |
| 15:52.26 | Kaydeethree | if you use the default profile in your mods, those settings will carry over from character to character |
| 15:52.28 | tophero | todd: i've noticed that too, i think |
| 15:52.49 | ArcaneFoam | that worked sylvannar, but I miss the "enter" so the comand will get executed |
| 15:52.57 | tophero | mostly for ace mods, things such as damagemeters don't seem to save setting |
| 15:53.11 | todd` | I don't think bartender has a default profile |
| 15:54.32 | tophero | that would explain it, i can't remember from when i tried it, i know i always have to load my profile in bongos when i make a new character |
| 15:55.03 | sylvanaar | yeah, you can cal. ChatEdit_SendText(DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.editBox) |
| 15:55.22 | ArcaneFoam | ok, thx a lot |
| 15:55.59 | ArcaneFoam | I have been having trobule with profiels and Fubar... I have to reload mine each time I log on, the bars just load up empty |
| 15:57.56 | tophero | that's odd, i haven't noticed that issue (i updated my addons yesterday) and i actually deleted and reinstalled everything because i was doing some spring cleaning, the only thing that was out of place and didn't seem to remember it's previous setting was my FactionItems_Fu |
| 15:58.23 | tophero | are you using separate profiles for all your characters or just the default |
| 15:58.48 | sylvanaar | you really just need to back up your saved variables |
| 16:00.46 | Funkeh` | Bypassing Cache, Reloading index from http://files.wowace.com/ Parsing 666 Entries In The Index File |
| 16:00.49 | Funkeh` | ooo |
| 16:01.01 | Funkeh` | wowace turns demonic! |
| 16:01.05 | CIA-23 | 03kaelten 07Ace2 * r34444 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (AuctionSpy/AuctionSpy.lua KC_Items.lua): KC_Items (Ace 2) - double price tooltips are a nominal reality. |
| 16:01.42 | Bam__ | a nominal reality? :D |
| 16:02.07 | sylvanaar | seems like an odd word usage |
| 16:05.02 | ArcaneFoam | separate profiles |
| 16:05.45 | Kaelten | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/gallery/details/22638/kci-1-0s-new-tooltips/ |
| 16:05.50 | Kaelten | if you want to see it |
| 16:06.33 | hyperChipmunk | slix |
| 16:07.43 | ArcaneFoam | when I open the profile submenu, my chars radiobut is checked, but the profile is not :S |
| 16:07.48 | FISKER_Q | good old blizzard support |
| 16:07.55 | FISKER_Q | GM1: Please delete your wtf, etc. |
| 16:08.06 | ArcaneFoam | lol |
| 16:08.08 | FISKER_Q | But i told you in the ticket that it didn't help |
| 16:08.13 | FISKER_Q | GM1: Try technical support |
| 16:08.20 | FISKER_Q | But it's happening for everyone on the server |
| 16:08.24 | FISKER_Q | GM1: Please hold on |
| 16:08.30 | FISKER_Q | <an hour passes> |
| 16:08.39 | FISKER_Q | GM2: Alright you'll have to run your repair tool |
| 16:09.03 | FISKER_Q | Dude didn't the other GM tell you it was a server-side problem and we already tried it? |
| 16:09.09 | FISKER_Q | Nevermind it then, the server is restarting anyways |
| 16:09.16 | *** join/#wowace Herio (n=kvermil@tiglon.ecst.csuchico.edu) |
| 16:09.17 | Bam__ | ask them to run their repair tool instead :P |
| 16:09.21 | yacoob | where is the part where you bite their heads off? |
| 16:09.51 | FISKER_Q | I never bite a customer rep's head off |
| 16:11.06 | ArcaneFoam | they taste funny |
| 16:11.32 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34445 10Aloft/Modules/CommentData.lua: |
| 16:11.32 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 16:11.32 | CIA-23 | - CommantData: Added include hostile option, which will enable automatic comment gathering for hostile units. Disabled by default |
| 16:12.26 | tophero | what was happening fisker? and what server is restarting |
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| 16:16.05 | FISKER_Q | tophero people were crashing when going from durotar to org or vice versa |
| 16:16.05 | FISKER_Q | and it was Ravencrest on the EU servers |
| 16:16.05 | tophero | ah |
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| 16:17.49 | tophero | lol, a visa card that rewards you with WoW playtime |
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| 16:18.05 | ArcaneFoam | no way |
| 16:18.10 | tophero | yep |
| 16:18.16 | tophero | on blizz's frontpage |
| 16:18.37 | FISKER_Q | ^^ |
| 16:20.03 | Herio | it's roflstatus |
| 16:20.12 | Tornhoof | product placement ftw |
| 16:20.24 | kenlyric | wow, ratingsbuster is just way way wrong. |
| 16:20.52 | kenlyric | This Item has 35 healing enchant, 10.7 healing from spirit, 66 item healing, and it totals that to 146.7 |
| 16:21.43 | nevcairiel | who gets healign from spirit? |
| 16:21.55 | kenlyric | priest. |
| 16:23.04 | kenlyric | mana regen is way off to... the enchant gives 7mp5 and the spirit provides an additional 2.9mp5, it adds that up to 16.9 |
| 16:23.18 | kenlyric | it's doubling the enchant. |
| 16:23.47 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 16:24.09 | Elkano | kenlyric, seems like enchants are counted twice to me |
| 16:24.15 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 16:24.19 | kenlyric | yup, checked a couple more items. |
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| 16:24.27 | nevcairiel | 51 enchant, 9 gem, 73 item |
| 16:24.35 | nevcairiel | 193 according to rb |
| 16:24.37 | kenlyric | but doesn't seem to be all of them. |
| 16:24.58 | nevcairiel | its doubling everything but the base value |
| 16:25.21 | nevcairiel | seems to happen with all double enchants |
| 16:25.28 | nevcairiel | those with an "and" in the description |
| 16:25.41 | kenlyric | looks like it might happen on sockets too. |
| 16:25.43 | nevcairiel | legs and head |
| 16:26.08 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 16:26.17 | nevcairiel | if the socket has an "and" in its description |
| 16:26.27 | kenlyric | ah, i see. |
| 16:26.29 | nevcairiel | like "9 Healing and 2 Mana regen" |
| 16:26.36 | kenlyric | that's exactly it. |
| 16:26.47 | nevcairiel | on enchants with "and" and gems with "and" all double |
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| 16:30.04 | Hjalte | Elkano, your inventorylib is not included in the !!!StandaloneLibraries package :) |
| 16:30.26 | Elkano | I know, but I won't add... :P |
| 16:31.00 | Elkano | since the whole SAL package doesn't make sense to me |
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| 16:32.54 | Hjalte | Elkano, it was the only lib missing in my moving to external libs addons :P |
| 16:33.42 | FISKER_Q | damn |
| 16:33.48 | FISKER_Q | that is a pretty awesome deal with the visa |
| 16:33.52 | FISKER_Q | if only it was in europe |
| 16:34.07 | Hjalte | FISKER_Q, hmm? |
| 16:34.07 | FISKER_Q | Atleast a month of playing each 3 months for me |
| 16:34.36 | Herio | if you put everything on the visa you'd probably be able to get more gametime |
| 16:34.45 | Herio | (and build credit rating? :O) |
| 16:35.12 | FISKER_Q | for 1500$ purchased through the visa you get a month of playing time |
| 16:35.27 | Herio | "out of game time. brb, gotta go to best buy and blow $1500" |
| 16:35.39 | Herio | HD tv? =P |
| 16:35.47 | Roartindon | If you pay your rates and taxes and regular bills on that |
| 16:35.49 | FISKER_Q | and the average wage in this country is probably around 3000$ for a month |
| 16:35.53 | Roartindon | that ends up being several free months of wow a year |
| 16:35.58 | FISKER_Q | yeah |
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| 16:36.31 | FISKER_Q | Just pay all usual expenses through the visa |
| 16:36.38 | FISKER_Q | and you'll easily earn a month |
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| 16:37.32 | Antiarc|Work | FISKER_Q: But if you don't pay it off, the interest is more than the gametime you earn :P |
| 16:37.46 | FISKER_Q | oh |
| 16:37.50 | FISKER_Q | that's not the way it works here |
| 16:37.59 | FISKER_Q | Here your visa is linked to an account with money on it |
| 16:38.16 | FISKER_Q | so you only borrow money if you actually blow all your money away |
| 16:38.49 | FISKER_Q | So that's probably why it's not gonna get launched in europe :P |
| 16:39.00 | FISKER_Q | We'll just play WoW for free each month lol |
| 16:40.33 | Nickenyfiken | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101820533&sid=1 hehe |
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| 16:43.51 | kenlyric | you can just get a credit card that gives you 1% cash back and then do whatever you want with the cash. |
| 16:44.18 | hyperChipmunk | you can not buy gift certificates, too |
| 16:44.22 | Herio | kenlyric: that wouldn't be nearly as fun, now would it? |
| 16:44.25 | hyperChipmunk | yet people don't seem to get that, either |
| 16:44.33 | Herio | srsly |
| 16:44.34 | kenlyric | it's like real money, only fun. |
| 16:44.38 | Herio | all i want is cash money! |
| 16:44.54 | Megalon | haha |
| 16:44.57 | FISKER_Q | now what would i do with real money? |
| 16:45.00 | Megalon | all those payback systems |
| 16:45.05 | kenlyric | like I said before, it's marketing. The single goal of marketing is to get you to spend your money unwisely. |
| 16:45.35 | FISKER_Q | well atleast here it's a good deal |
| 16:45.39 | kenlyric | FISKER_Q: or get a better deal, a card that gives you a higher return on limited use, like 3% on gas or something. |
| 16:45.46 | FISKER_Q | given that we have none of all that 1% cash back or whatever deals here |
| 16:45.55 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 16:45.58 | Funkeh` | logged onto ptr |
| 16:45.58 | FISKER_Q | i don't have a car |
| 16:46.03 | Funkeh` | 'C stack overflow' |
| 16:46.04 | FISKER_Q | so that would be a very bad deal |
| 16:46.07 | Funkeh` | :/ |
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| 16:46.14 | kenlyric | they have them for everything. that was one fucking example |
| 16:46.24 | kenlyric | stop being obtuse! |
| 16:46.29 | kenlyric | *glare* |
| 16:46.44 | Herio | i think my parents get like 5% back at REI (outdoors equipment, hiking, biking, etc) |
| 16:47.02 | Herio | so i guess 1% is pretty bunk |
| 16:47.29 | kenlyric | 1% is the standard, baseline, that any reward system will give you. |
| 16:47.33 | FISKER_Q | kenlyric that's the point they have them for _nothing_ here :P |
| 16:47.47 | kenlyric | Then they limiit the rewards, or what triggers the reward, and up the percent. |
| 16:48.03 | kenlyric | so this wow card is a steaming pile of horsepoo. |
| 16:48.08 | kenlyric | FISKER_Q: I don't know what you mean. |
| 16:48.30 | kenlyric | oh, you mean another "here" than the one I know :) |
| 16:48.33 | FISKER_Q | Where i live there's no such thing as a reward system for visas |
| 16:49.02 | FISKER_Q | And only one bank actually caries visas with custom logos |
| 16:49.09 | FISKER_Q | so we're pretty much behind in that aspect |
| 16:49.10 | kenlyric | rewards systems are such a rippoff no matter what, since most of them are based on the value of your balance. |
| 16:49.20 | kenlyric | so the interest far outweighs the reward. |
| 16:49.32 | Herio | fisker: where? |
| 16:49.43 | FISKER_Q | denmark |
| 16:49.47 | Herio | ah |
| 16:49.53 | Megalon | don't fall for payback systems :) |
| 16:50.01 | kenlyric | it's designed to make stupid peopple think keeping a balance is giving them something. |
| 16:50.04 | Megalon | it's not ment to give you something back in any way |
| 16:50.34 | kenlyric | Megalon: it's a nice thing to have if you are going to be keeping a balance, ie, better than nothing. |
| 16:51.05 | Herio | gosh |
| 16:51.12 | FISKER_Q | keeping a balance = keeping money on the account right? |
| 16:51.18 | kenlyric | yes. |
| 16:51.21 | Herio | i can't seem to find a way to determine if i have a pet out =/ |
| 16:51.26 | FISKER_Q | That's pretty much how this system works here |
| 16:51.29 | kenlyric | which is great for those cards that start with 0% interest :) |
| 16:51.46 | kenlyric | then it actually is a reward, as long as you pay it off before 0% interest ends. |
| 16:51.53 | pastamancer | Herio: UnitExists("pet") |
| 16:52.20 | FISKER_Q | Like i get money on my account, and i can use those money to withdraw on my visa |
| 16:52.22 | Herio | ah-ha |
| 16:52.34 | kenlyric | FISKER_Q: no, that sounds like a debit card. |
| 16:52.41 | FISKER_Q | however i can only be in debt if my bank allows it |
| 16:52.44 | Herio | i was looking for something under pet functions like IsPetThere or some cripe |
| 16:52.51 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34446 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (9 files in 9 dirs): |
| 16:52.51 | CIA-23 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 16:52.51 | CIA-23 | - mine mine mine! |
| 16:52.53 | FISKER_Q | it's because our system is blended with visa |
| 16:53.01 | kenlyric | this is a credit card, that never has anything greater than a 0 balance |
| 16:53.03 | FISKER_Q | we have a national card(debit) and visa integrated |
| 16:53.07 | kenlyric | FISKER_Q: all banks have that now. |
| 16:53.48 | FISKER_Q | It's pretty hard to explain but in any case the only affiliation with visa is the logo on the card |
| 16:53.50 | kenlyric | and those don't usually ever have reward programs involved. |
| 16:53.53 | FISKER_Q | and that it works like a visa card |
| 16:54.03 | kenlyric | it's not hard to explain. |
| 16:54.07 | kenlyric | every bank has that :) |
| 16:54.12 | FISKER_Q | ok :P |
| 16:54.20 | kenlyric | it's a different thing from a credit card. |
| 16:54.31 | Herio | i'm out of here |
| 16:54.33 | Herio | later |
| 16:54.55 | FISKER_Q | it does work like a credit card, but only if our bank allows it :P |
| 16:55.33 | FISKER_Q | i.e. you have to apply and they might give you a limit of 1000$ |
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| 16:56.09 | kenlyric | ah, so it can do both. |
| 16:56.18 | FISKER_Q | yeah |
| 16:56.19 | kenlyric | I'd be so poor. |
| 16:57.01 | ruinna | how often are teh toc files processed to update the addon wiki pages? |
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| 16:58.08 | kenlyric | primal fire sells for 30g, primal shadow sells for 80s. |
| 16:58.19 | kenlyric | now tell me that mote drop rates aren't completely screwed up. |
| 16:58.37 | Kaydeethree | how many more demons are there than fire elementals? |
| 16:58.45 | kenlyric | exactly. |
| 16:58.59 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't think primal shadow and primal fire were intended to be equivalent |
| 16:59.10 | Megalon | primal shadow is just |
| 16:59.11 | NightHawkTheSane | kind of like essence of undeath vs essence of water :P |
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| 16:59.16 | [Ammo] | hrmf vhaarr not here |
| 16:59.18 | Megalon | a side product of farming aldor repu |
| 16:59.35 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: yes, but you could transmute the worthless one into something useful. |
| 16:59.36 | [Ammo] | damage statistics for sws and violation = equal in 300k damage done |
| 16:59.46 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: and you can transmute primal shadow in to primal water, too. |
| 17:00.03 | kenlyric | you can? I thought all the transmutes were worthless in TBC. |
| 17:00.08 | kenlyric | like fire to earth and shit like that. |
| 17:00.20 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: it's a discovered transmute, but it exists |
| 17:00.53 | Megalon | earth > water and shadow > water |
| 17:00.58 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: and the standard circe (earth->fire->air->water->earth) is decent for xmute masters to just transmute one primal around, skim off the extra and sell it for pure profit |
| 17:01.34 | Thugthedum | you can xmute shadow->water? zomg |
| 17:01.41 | kenlyric | primal earth to water is th eonly useful one I see. |
| 17:01.53 | Megalon | at least you can buy earth to water |
| 17:01.57 | Megalon | at sporreggar |
| 17:02.00 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 17:02.00 | Megalon | sporeggar? |
| 17:02.20 | NightHawkTheSane | one r two g's i think, but meh |
| 17:02.46 | Megalon | hm, yea |
| 17:02.52 | Megalon | you need revered |
| 17:03.02 | Megalon | but you'll get 750 repu per quest |
| 17:03.12 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, not that hard to get, just kind of a pain |
| 17:03.26 | Megalon | yea, or run coilfang instances |
| 17:03.35 | Megalon | for the hibiscus thingies |
| 17:03.45 | NightHawkTheSane | well, SP/Bog, none of the hibiscus in steamvault |
| 17:03.55 | Megalon | oh |
| 17:04.02 | Nickenyfiken | Uhm isnt it Earth -> Fire? |
| 17:04.21 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=transmute%20primal#z0z |
| 17:04.31 | NightHawkTheSane | I think it actually is earth->water, I probably messed up the circle order. |
| 17:04.33 | shieldb | you can just go kill 24 nagas for 750 rep if you want easy sporeggar rep (that "Now that we're still friends..." quest) |
| 17:04.42 | Megalon | all with skill level n/a come from the discovery system |
| 17:04.59 | yacoob | hm, rumor has it, MS is trying to buy yahoo - again :) |
| 17:05.00 | Elkano | and that one has been disabled for now :( |
| 17:05.02 | kenlyric | ah, that's why they don't show up on the recipe page. |
| 17:05.06 | Hjalte | If you want sporeggar, you are sometimes able to find tons of sanguine hibiscus on AH for very small amounts of money |
| 17:05.23 | Nickenyfiken | oh |
| 17:05.50 | Megalon | yea elkano :c |
| 17:06.01 | kenlyric | so you can, eventually, get the cycle of transmutes :) |
| 17:06.03 | Megalon | but just imagine |
| 17:06.06 | Megalon | you transmute something |
| 17:06.09 | Megalon | and discover |
| 17:06.09 | CIA-23 | 03ruinna * r34447 10FuBar_BongosFu/ (FuBar_BongosFu.toc README.txt): FuBar_BongosFu: small updates to TOC and README |
| 17:06.10 | shieldb | Hjalte, yeah someone posted three stacks of 250 (whatever the max stack size is) on my server a week or so ago, I'm not sure why the guy went and got so much of it |
| 17:06.15 | Megalon | Water => Shadow |
| 17:06.16 | Megalon | :D |
| 17:06.21 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: its actually quite easy to get the basic circle :P |
| 17:06.50 | kenlyric | you can't get it without discovery. |
| 17:06.55 | kenlyric | since shadow and life aren't included. |
| 17:07.03 | NightHawkTheSane | that's not the "basic circle" :P |
| 17:07.25 | kenlyric | well I guess if you want to randomly define things :) |
| 17:07.58 | kenlyric | my general needs as a healer are water, air, mana and life. |
| 17:07.58 | kenlyric | oh, mana isn't included either. |
| 17:07.58 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, well I guess I assumed most people considered the basic circle to just be the 4 primary elements, air, fire, earth, and water. |
| 17:08.03 | Ominous | is anyone useing FuBar_ClassTimerFu on the test ream? |
| 17:08.04 | Hjalte | Auch. Need help. I just downloaded all mods without externals, through WAU, but usually I use WUU, and WUU doesnt usually pack out lod addons. So i deleted all the extra folders for addons like Prat, Pitbull etc after having confirmed that the extra folders were included in the main folder. But now these addons are not working. |
| 17:08.32 | Arrowmaster | sporeggar rep isnt that hard to get that you need to purchase items, ive gotten to revered just from doing the quests and turning in sanguine hibiscus ive collected from many heroic underbog runs |
| 17:09.19 | kenlyric | that requires stepping foot in that shithole of an instance any more than the minimum required to get to revered. |
| 17:09.32 | Arrowmaster | meh |
| 17:09.38 | Arrowmaster | ive dont a lot of heroics |
| 17:10.04 | Arrowmaster | mech is our new faviorite |
| 17:10.31 | kenlyric | TK and CoT are the good instances, imo |
| 17:10.42 | Arrowmaster | 5 badges in less than an hour |
| 17:10.52 | Arrowmaster | old hillsbrad heroic is fucking evil |
| 17:11.05 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.17.250.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 17:11.09 | kenlyric | yes, as we've talked about :) |
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| 17:11.28 | kenlyric | aka, just don't run it on heroic, and then you can enjoy its spectacular construction :) |
| 17:12.32 | Thrae | Anyone have a Demonoid account? I'm looking for one. |
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| 17:12.42 | Gnarfoz | ~seen Aznamir |
| 17:12.55 | purl | i haven't seen 'aznamir', Gnarfoz |
| 17:12.59 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 17:13.10 | Thrae | ~seen Az* |
| 17:13.13 | purl | i haven't seen 'az*', Thrae |
| 17:13.13 | Gnarfoz | anyone know PallyPower's insides? |
| 17:13.32 | Thrae | Heh, not that smart. |
| 17:13.35 | Gnarfoz | it seems to always buff greater blessings, regardless of the setting |
| 17:13.39 | Caiman | hi all, i'm having problems trying to move BT3 special bars, could anyone help me with the commands ? |
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| 17:14.06 | hyperChipmunk | ~seen vhaar |
| 17:14.08 | purl | i haven't seen 'vhaar', hyperChipmunk |
| 17:14.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ~seen vhaarr |
| 17:14.15 | purl | vhaarr <i=folk@ghybel696.krs.hia.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 13m 46s ago, saying: 'I wouldn't expect it next week'. |
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| 17:14.19 | hyperChipmunk | that's it =P |
| 17:14.29 | Hjalte | Why are my addons telling me they can't find a library instance of SharedMedialib when it's there?! |
| 17:14.29 | hyperChipmunk | i have a bone to pick with that guy |
| 17:14.30 | Herio | so apparently, my cs class was cancelled |
| 17:14.42 | Fisker- | counter-strike sucks (hoho) |
| 17:14.50 | Thrae | Hjalte: Not properly refered in the TOC file. |
| 17:14.57 | Thrae | s/refered/referenced/ |
| 17:15.00 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: I see what u did thar |
| 17:15.00 | hyperChipmunk | he keeps making gnome addons and my g/f keeps downloading them, not knowing what the heck they are |
| 17:15.10 | Fisker- | indeed Gnarfoz |
| 17:15.14 | hyperChipmunk | "my gnomes have spy clothes now" |
| 17:15.25 | Hjalte | Thrae, the toc file of the addons? |
| 17:15.30 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: lol |
| 17:15.34 | dotted | Fisker- http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/04/1330248&from=rss oh noes what todo? |
| 17:15.36 | hyperChipmunk | I had no idea what it did |
| 17:15.36 | hyperChipmunk | but my gnomes have spy clothes |
| 17:15.36 | hyperChipmunk | I figured it might do something useful |
| 17:15.49 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ |
| 17:16.09 | Thrae | Hjalte: Right. Additionally, not all addons are set to use the libs as standalone. |
| 17:16.11 | NightHawkTheSane | I think SpyGnome just spies on other peoples addon versions |
| 17:16.18 | hyperChipmunk | it does |
| 17:16.29 | Hjalte | Thrae, sigh. It's a lot of addons... |
| 17:16.59 | hyperChipmunk | she has Metrognome too |
| 17:17.04 | Thrae | Hjalte: In Windows, use the find command to search for strings within a file. |
| 17:17.09 | hyperChipmunk | apparently, it's the gnome about town |
| 17:17.26 | hyperChipmunk | she even drew a picture of him waiting at the subway station |
| 17:17.32 | hyperChipmunk | with a briefcase |
| 17:17.33 | Thrae | Metrognome knows how to please the ladies without being gay. |
| 17:17.45 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: .... |
| 17:17.59 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: No offense, but is your girlfriend like 12? |
| 17:18.14 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ |
| 17:18.16 | hyperChipmunk | 22 |
| 17:18.23 | Gnarfoz | mental age? :> |
| 17:18.25 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, so she just -acts- 12 |
| 17:18.34 | Thrae | Awww, so young. |
| 17:18.40 | hyperChipmunk | she likes gnomes a lot =( |
| 17:18.50 | Thrae | I remember when I was 22 and just learning how to walk. |
| 17:19.06 | Thrae | I said my first words, "Video Games!" |
| 17:19.15 | hyperChipmunk | she brings them reagents and ice cream when we do battlegrounds |
| 17:19.25 | Megalon | hm |
| 17:19.43 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: I'd check her ID more closely if I were you ;) |
| 17:19.46 | Caiman | could anyone tell me if this "/script BT3SpecialBars[STANCE]:ClearAllPoints();" is correct ? |
| 17:20.02 | yacoob | Thrae, '- quad damage? - no honey, it's a ball - quad damage?!' :)) |
| 17:20.17 | Thrae | yacoob: That completely went over my head. |
| 17:20.41 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ |
| 17:20.44 | Thrae | Caiman: I don't think STANCE is a global variable. |
| 17:21.02 | sbu | harl|SG1: where? |
| 17:21.21 | Caiman | Thrae i know that /script BT3Bar1:ClearAllPoints(); works |
| 17:21.22 | harl|SG1 | Tele5 |
| 17:21.25 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's not a global variable |
| 17:21.29 | Caiman | but don't know how is that with specialbars |
| 17:21.43 | ulic | ~seen Funkeh` |
| 17:21.54 | purl | funkeh` is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 18m 50s) #wowace (2h 18m 50s). Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 35m 47s, last said: ':/'. |
| 17:21.59 | Thrae | Caiman: Look in the code, do a search for "BT3SpecialBar" |
| 17:21.59 | Gnarfoz | harl|SG1: old episodes, right? |
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| 17:22.14 | Caiman | inside core.lua ? |
| 17:22.14 | Funkeh` | ~prod ulic |
| 17:22.17 | purl | ACTION zaps ulic with a high voltage cattle prod |
| 17:22.29 | harl|SG1 | sure, Gnarfoz |
| 17:22.31 | Thrae | Caiman: Yeah, or you could use the Windows 'find' command from the console. |
| 17:22.40 | Thrae | cmd.exe |
| 17:22.57 | Caiman | will try |
| 17:23.07 | Thugthedum | type filename.txt|find "termtofind" |
| 17:23.08 | Gnarfoz | yay I broke pallypower >_< |
| 17:23.14 | Gnarfoz | the spell search is kind of weirdly done |
| 17:23.16 | Caiman | gief linux :) |
| 17:23.32 | ulic | Funkeh`: we can take to privmsg if you want, just wanted to talk about the channeling/rage for Kalithresh |
| 17:23.44 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 17:24.28 | Gnarfoz | is it possible to make a lua regex that matches anything BUT "Greater (.*)"? |
| 17:24.32 | Gnarfoz | I'm lost :\ |
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| 17:28.01 | kebinusan | Gnarf, ^Blessing* ? |
| 17:28.15 | Gnarfoz | ah! |
| 17:28.41 | kebinusan | probably a better way my regexp fu is very minimal |
| 17:28.43 | NightHawkTheSane | it's typically easier in regex to match what you want, as opposed to what you don't want. |
| 17:29.16 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm not usually meddling with regexes much, so I tend to get lost easily :D |
| 17:29.52 | Gnarfoz | hrm, still only has greater blessings |
| 17:30.05 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: if not string.match(foo, "^Greater") then |
| 17:30.47 | Thrae | I think all of the Greater blessings start with "Greater Blessing", best to be as explicit as possible. Of course, this is not localized. |
| 17:31.29 | Gnarfoz | yeah, PallyPower has localization already, but it seems to somehow prefer all greater blessings to the normal ones for whatever reason |
| 17:31.58 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Probably because blessings that only last 5 minutes are such a pain. |
| 17:32.36 | Gnarfoz | heh, no need to remind me of that, but the option is there and not working... so I'm trying to get it to work :) |
| 17:32.37 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: If I were the author of PallyPower, I'd do a bag search for the regeants and use Greater if the regeant count is over a certain number, like 20, 50, etc. |
| 17:32.58 | Gnarfoz | If I were, I'd probably remove the option :D |
| 17:33.23 | Gngsk | does corkfu do greater blessings? |
| 17:33.27 | Thrae | Well I try to use Gift of the Wild most often myself |
| 17:33.33 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm where do you get "<class> Test Gear Box"? |
| 17:33.36 | Thrae | Yes, not sure if CorkFu works with 2.0 |
| 17:33.44 | Gngsk | it does |
| 17:33.56 | Gngsk | but it doesn't seem to be using greater blessings on my 55 pally |
| 17:33.58 | Thrae | Ah, I didn't know Tekkub was still working on it. |
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| 17:34.17 | Gngsk | yeah, he's recently added some things |
| 17:34.28 | xyu | i'd like for it to abbreviate the names too :( |
| 17:34.29 | Thrae | Anyway, CorkFu is separated into modules. Each class gets its own module, as well as trinkets, etc. |
| 17:34.30 | xyu | that's what made me stop using it |
| 17:35.03 | xyu | oh wait that's not pallypower i'm thinking of sth else |
| 17:35.07 | Thrae | xyu: Tell Tekkub that using wowinterface.com PM or http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 17:35.36 | Thrae | xyu: Wait, are you thinking of CorkFu or PallyPower? If PallyPower, ignore what I just said. |
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| 17:35.59 | Fisker- | LOL |
| 17:36.01 | Fisker- | omg |
| 17:36.03 | Thugthedum | anyone in here know much about normalization? |
| 17:36.06 | Ominous | argh cant start wow |
| 17:36.15 | Fisker- | that guy i talked about who bought an ATi card in Crossfire with Nvidia SLI |
| 17:36.16 | Ominous | it goes to open and just get a black screen |
| 17:36.18 | Ominous | anyideas? |
| 17:36.21 | Fisker- | or who wanted to buy it |
| 17:36.27 | Thrae | Thugthedum: There's a lot of paradigms for "normalization". Elaborate. |
| 17:36.48 | Fisker- | I told him his machine was pretty shitty, and that it wouldn't run in SLI, and generally SLI would be a waste of money so he should buy a better graphics card |
| 17:36.51 | Thugthedum | speaking specifically of melee weap normalization; such as the adage that "a one handed weapon hits as tho it is at 2.4 speed." |
| 17:36.56 | Thugthedum | even if it's a 2.2 or 2.6 |
| 17:36.58 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: so what did he do? :D |
| 17:37.03 | Fisker- | He bought 1 instead of 2 |
| 17:37.19 | Fisker- | And now he's complaining about low scores in 3dmark |
| 17:37.24 | Gnarfoz | Thugthedum: that's only for certain special moves, anyway, like Sinister Strike and such |
| 17:37.30 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: heh... |
| 17:37.35 | Arrowmaster | Thugthedum: thats for calculating the amount of damage added from AP for abilitys that also give bonus damage |
| 17:37.41 | Thugthedum | right |
| 17:37.44 | Thugthedum | so |
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| 17:37.50 | Thugthedum | is a 2.6 1h penalized? |
| 17:37.56 | Antiarc|Work | Penalized for what? |
| 17:37.59 | Gnarfoz | depends on the attack and the weapon type |
| 17:38.09 | Thrae | Fisker-: He had a motherboard that supported Nvidia SLI and he bought 1 ATI Video card and is now complaining? |
| 17:38.16 | Thugthedum | i've been doing the math in a specific way for a long time; that basically made it so that weps > 2.4 speed were given a bonus by normalization |
| 17:38.22 | Thugthedum | but is that what happens in game? |
| 17:38.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Thugthedum: for most instant attacks, a 2.6s weapon will be treated as having a speed of 2.4s for bonus damage from AP |
| 17:38.33 | Thrae | Thugthedum: Tried TheoryCraft? I think that goes beyond spell damage. |
| 17:38.42 | Gnarfoz | try patch notes 1.8 |
| 17:38.46 | Gnarfoz | it's all laid out there |
| 17:38.46 | Thugthedum | kk |
| 17:38.58 | Antiarc|Work | The AP bonus for a white attack is AP / 14 * weapon speed. The AP bonus for a special with a 1h non-dagger is AP / 14 * 2.4 |
| 17:39.17 | Antiarc|Work | So a 2.6 gets the same bonus as a 1.4 speed on Sinister Strike, for example |
| 17:39.22 | wallen | What addon could I use to display a "You got aggro by %mob%" only when in raids? |
| 17:39.27 | Arrowmaster | Thugthedum: if comparing two weapons of the exact same dps and other bonuses but one has a 2.2 speed and one has a 2.6 speed, the 2.6 can give harder hitting instant attacks |
| 17:39.30 | NightHawkTheSane | of course, not all instant attacks are "normalized", Hemorhage and Stormstrike are notable ones that aren't |
| 17:39.31 | Antiarc|Work | It gets less than it would have pre-normalization, but it's not really "penalized" |
| 17:39.36 | Roartindon | wallen: BanzaiAlert |
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| 17:39.44 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: Not because of normalization, though |
| 17:39.46 | Thugthedum | arrow:thx |
| 17:39.50 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: Only because of difference in damage ranged |
| 17:39.52 | Antiarc|Work | ranges* |
| 17:39.53 | Thrae | Heh, I like picking my gear for my Druid, but all of these equations are a little much for me. |
| 17:39.54 | Gnarfoz | because of higher top-end damage :> |
| 17:39.57 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 17:40.03 | Thugthedum | i wondered if normalization penalized the fact that it has a higher top end |
| 17:40.09 | Antiarc|Work | Two weapons with the exact same weapon damage range and different speeds will give the exact same damage on specials |
| 17:40.09 | wallen | Roartindon: thanks |
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| 17:40.11 | Thrae | wallen: VitalWatch, which includes all of BanzaiAlert. |
| 17:40.13 | Thugthedum | am a warrior btw, not rogue but it applies similarly |
| 17:40.13 | Arrowmaster | Thugthedum: no |
| 17:40.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Thugthedum: no, the damage range of the weapon is unaffected |
| 17:40.21 | Antiarc|Work | Thugthedum: Normalization has nothing to do with weapon damage ranges, only AP bonuses |
| 17:40.27 | Arrowmaster | Thugthedum: ok so assuse using heroic strike |
| 17:40.30 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 17:40.33 | Gnarfoz | which makes the arena fist weapon main hand insanely good :> |
| 17:40.35 | Arrowmaster | assume using mortal strike |
| 17:40.38 | Thugthedum | er, devastate |
| 17:40.39 | Gnarfoz | (compared to the sword) |
| 17:40.39 | Antiarc|Work | Heroic Strike is next attack :) |
| 17:40.45 | Thugthedum | mortal is ok yea |
| 17:40.48 | Arrowmaster | or devastate |
| 17:40.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: how so? I havnt seen the arena fist |
| 17:41.11 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: same stats overall, same speed and dps, but higher dmg range (lower bottom, higher top) |
| 17:41.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh, okay |
| 17:41.23 | Gnarfoz | 25dmg higher top-end, ~12 lower start |
| 17:41.33 | Gnarfoz | don't know why they did that |
| 17:41.42 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* i just dont pvp really, so i dont know the stats on pvp gear |
| 17:41.49 | Arrowmaster | before normalization, when calculating damage increase from AP it would use the weapon speed in the calculation which would give slow weapons a lot more damage from AP than fast weapons |
| 17:41.57 | Gnarfoz | I don't either, but the weapons are simply godly at the moment :) |
| 17:42.21 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, which makes me sad that i probably wont get them |
| 17:42.53 | Thugthedum | so all things being equal; two 80 dps 1h'ers, one is a 2.2, one is a 2.6; the 2.6 should devastate harder than the 2.2 |
| 17:42.55 | Arrowmaster | after normalization all weapons of the same type get the same damage bonus on instant attacks from AP |
| 17:43.05 | Arrowmaster | Thugthedum: yes |
| 17:43.10 | Thugthedum | because it gets the same AP bonus; but its applied to the bigger ave dmg |
| 17:43.11 | Antiarc|Work | Thugthedum: All things being equal, they'll devestate the same. |
| 17:43.11 | Thugthedum | kk |
| 17:43.16 | Arrowmaster | Thugthedum: but not because of normalization |
| 17:43.17 | Thugthedum | which is it? |
| 17:43.31 | Thugthedum | deva = weap*.5+(35*sundercount) |
| 17:43.37 | Antiarc|Work | All things being equal assumes an equal average damage :P |
| 17:43.40 | Thugthedum | i assume weap = weap+AP bonus |
| 17:43.59 | Thugthedum | well, ok, all other things being equal. |
| 17:44.08 | Thugthedum | btw, antiarc did you see posts re: armory tools? |
| 17:44.12 | Antiarc|Work | damage = weapon damage + AP bonus. AP bonus is static for instant specials, so only the weapon damage changes the attack's damage. |
| 17:44.13 | Thugthedum | line 94 etc. |
| 17:44.23 | Arrowmaster | if you had devistate before normalization, the 2.6 would hit a fuck ton harder than the 2.2 |
| 17:44.24 | Antiarc|Work | Don't think so. What's up? |
| 17:44.50 | Thugthedum | line 94 of guild_heroics.php assumes that someone with exactly 21k coilfang rep can't get a key. |
| 17:44.56 | Thugthedum | should be a >= not a > |
| 17:45.07 | Thugthedum | had a guildie with -exactly- 21k coilfang. |
| 17:45.18 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, right. |
| 17:45.23 | Antiarc|Work | I'll check that out :) |
| 17:45.27 | Thugthedum | kk |
| 17:45.31 | Thugthedum | so again. |
| 17:45.33 | Thugthedum | deva. |
| 17:45.47 | Thugthedum | two 80 dps non-daggers, one 2.2, one 2.6 |
| 17:45.57 | Thugthedum | the 2.6 will be the better threat generator. |
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| 17:46.08 | Thugthedum | the 2.2 will be "brought up" to 2.4, but the 2.6 will surpass right? |
| 17:46.12 | Arrowmaster | i couldnt answer that |
| 17:46.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Thugthedum: in terms of devastate damage strictly, yes |
| 17:46.24 | Thugthedum | because of the specific mechanic. |
| 17:46.32 | Thugthedum | right good point; other instants would be different |
| 17:46.32 | Thugthedum | kk |
| 17:46.49 | Arrowmaster | the 2.6 will be brought down to 2.4 |
| 17:46.52 | ulic | Antiarc|Work: I installed the code on my own site yesterday, and the fonts aren't nearly as sharp as yours, any ideas off the top of your head? |
| 17:46.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Thugthedum: both weapons will get the -same- bonus damage from AP, but the damage range on the 2.6 will be higher |
| 17:46.56 | Thugthedum | :) |
| 17:46.56 | Arrowmaster | but only in terms of bonus damage from AP |
| 17:47.11 | Thugthedum | right ... and that bonus will be applied to a larger ave dmg |
| 17:47.17 | Antiarc|Work | ulic: I've seen that happen in various places, but I'm not sure why. |
| 17:47.19 | Arrowmaster | and the average damage on the 2.6 will be higher because its slower |
| 17:47.23 | Antiarc|Work | I suspect it's due to the PHP installation. |
| 17:47.25 | ulic | Antiarc|Work: ok |
| 17:47.26 | Thugthedum | the ave dmg wont be nerfed in this case is what im getting at |
| 17:47.32 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 17:47.35 | Thugthedum | kk |
| 17:47.45 | NightHawkTheSane | right. normalization only affects bonus damage from AP, not the intrinsic weapon damage |
| 17:47.59 | Arrowmaster | if you knew about pre normalization rogue mechanices you would see exactly how normalization worked |
| 17:48.06 | Arrowmaster | it was just stupid pre normalization |
| 17:48.08 | Thugthedum | someone reminded me that normalization was to kind of nerf the instant bonus on ub3r slow weaps; so my assertion about 2.6'ers being better for deva had to be wrong |
| 17:48.11 | Thugthedum | (they were saying) |
| 17:48.21 | Arrowmaster | wasnt a nerf |
| 17:48.22 | Arrowmaster | was a fix |
| 17:48.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: "hello Shanker, Krol Blade" |
| 17:48.25 | Thugthedum | right |
| 17:48.30 | Arrowmaster | because the mechanices were fucking stupid |
| 17:48.33 | ulic | Antiarc|Work: also, is it possible to get it display the image with the ajax code, right now I just get the message about linking, what needs to be tweaked to fix that. |
| 17:48.55 | Morgh | Anyone else getting absurd amounts of errors from CorkFu? |
| 17:49.00 | Antiarc|Work | ulic: Look in sig_config.ini and change OKReferer to your domain name |
| 17:49.02 | Thugthedum | havent played with that; i'm more a back end guy |
| 17:49.20 | xyu | back end guy eh |
| 17:49.25 | Thugthedum | :p |
| 17:49.28 | Arrowmaster | ap bonus on instants used to be AP/14*SPEED for the amount of DPS added to each attack |
| 17:49.29 | Thugthedum | all: thx for deva responses. |
| 17:49.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Thugthedum: As complete tangent, for tanking, faster weapons are typically still going to be better for -overall- threat generation. :) |
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| 17:49.46 | Arrowmaster | now its AP/14*NORMALIZEDSPEED |
| 17:49.48 | Thugthedum | now why do you say that? besides that it's in fortifications etc |
| 17:49.58 | Thugthedum | you ahve to have a lot of rage to make julie's dagger work |
| 17:50.20 | Thugthedum | and even then; i think a slow deva spammer with good BV/shield slam will out-threat the julie tank |
| 17:50.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Thugthedum: I didn't say julie's dagger. There's plenty of high dps fast non-dagger 1hers out there now. |
| 17:50.59 | Arrowmaster | pre devistate the better tank weapons were the ones around 2.0 speed |
| 17:51.00 | Thugthedum | non-dagger would be key i suppose |
| 17:51.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Thugthedum: and in any sort of progression tanking situtation, it'll be a naturally high-rage situation, so HS spamming is much easier, which favors faster weapons. |
| 17:51.09 | syeren | Sigh, my debuff frames went again. |
| 17:51.43 | Thugthedum | yes... tanking moroes for instance; i get minutes of threat build before the cavalry comes in. |
| 17:51.44 | hyperChipmunk | anyone know how to close a tablet window with a line in the tablet itself without messing it up? |
| 17:51.52 | Thugthedum | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.10 | Thugthedum | but those theatre ushers on the way to the opera; i need threat and im not getting natural rage |
| 17:52.13 | NightHawkTheSane | and in a typical tank rotation, you really only get oneish devastates in your cycle anyway |
| 17:52.19 | Thugthedum | true |
| 17:52.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Thugthedum: those ushers are just a pita. :\ |
| 17:52.50 | Thugthedum | if i spam all my rage on hero; i dont get to shield slam |
| 17:52.55 | shieldb | NightHawkTheSane, I prefer to think of it as "exciting" |
| 17:53.02 | Arrowmaster | good way to handle the ushers is to have dps go back and forth between them |
| 17:53.07 | NightHawkTheSane | shieldb: oh, i think they're great fun, but also a pain :D |
| 17:53.27 | Thugthedum | so a rotation of (block) slam -> deva/sunder -> revenge -> (block) slam |
| 17:53.33 | Thugthedum | i want to maximize that one devastate |
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| 17:53.59 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i usually use block->revenge->slam->sunder/dev if there's time before revenge is up again |
| 17:54.06 | Thugthedum | this is true re: exciting, etc. - but wipetastic; and my guild would prefer it go more smoothly :p the OT also has a harder time with the threat gen |
| 17:54.10 | Thugthedum | so we're tuning things |
| 17:54.32 | Thugthedum | i'm trying to talk him in to a slower weapon for certain fights |
| 17:54.45 | Thugthedum | i swing the aldor xalted thing; 267 top end 2.6 speed |
| 17:54.48 | Arrowmaster | i would try suggesting to them to have dps alternate between the two ushers |
| 17:55.07 | Thugthedum | even when we alternate i out - threat him significantly |
| 17:55.08 | Arrowmaster | gives a lot more time for threat gen |
| 17:55.10 | Thugthedum | and he's rage starved |
| 17:55.15 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 17:55.32 | Thugthedum | so i get frozen and the usher's wear our hlz as dresses |
| 17:55.40 | Thugthedum | thx for the help all |
| 17:55.45 | Arrowmaster | also |
| 17:56.00 | Arrowmaster | i know its hard to pull off but you can spell reflect the ice tomb |
| 17:56.07 | Thugthedum | orly? |
| 17:56.10 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
| 17:56.19 | Thugthedum | i was trinket o' teh hording it, but that only works once per fight |
| 17:56.28 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesn't stop the threat wipe/reduction, but you dont get frozen |
| 17:56.41 | kenlyric | also, sometime in the near future, ushers become pushovers. |
| 17:56.46 | Thugthedum | if im not frozen i can try to pick him back up |
| 17:56.47 | Thugthedum | nice |
| 17:56.55 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, 2.1 they become shackleable yeah? |
| 17:57.02 | Thugthedum | pvp trinket is also good but i'll have to remember with the spell reflect |
| 17:57.03 | kenlyric | i believe they can be feared, too. |
| 17:57.04 | Arrowmaster | if your not frozen and you have enough threat left, they wont event leave you |
| 17:57.17 | Thugthedum | ah, its a reduction, not a reset? |
| 17:57.19 | kenlyric | they are vulnerable to crowd control. |
| 17:57.24 | Arrowmaster | perty sure its a reduction |
| 17:57.26 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, its a reduction in threat, not a complete wipe |
| 17:57.29 | Thugthedum | nice |
| 17:57.36 | Thugthedum | they will be vulnerable; yes. but not yet |
| 17:57.38 | kenlyric | and generally, if you can shackle something, you can frost trap and pally fear. |
| 17:57.39 | Arrowmaster | grounding totems also work |
| 17:58.04 | kenlyric | misdirection pull to a pet can help. |
| 17:58.17 | kenlyric | but you have to take that first one down fast. |
| 17:58.43 | kenlyric | you kill it in the time it takes #2 to get to the pet, kill it, and run back to the hunter. |
| 17:59.35 | Antiarc|Work | They hit for about 7k on leather :x |
| 17:59.47 | Arrowmaster | with spell reflect not on the GCD next patch it should be perty easy to reflect the ice tomb |
| 17:59.49 | kenlyric | "you have to take down the first one fast" |
| 17:59.53 | CIA-23 | 03pb_ee1 * r34448 10ChatLog/ (6 files): |
| 17:59.53 | CIA-23 | ChatLog: |
| 17:59.53 | CIA-23 | - Changing a few localized strings so we don't have to translate them anymore. |
| 17:59.53 | CIA-23 | - Maybe this will bug. If so, please post on the forum. |
| 18:00.29 | kenlyric | another solution is to have your ranged aggro dropping classes spread out as far as possible, so if they run after those, you've got some time for them to run out, and run back after fade/feign death. |
| 18:03.01 | kebinusan | even if you reflect ice tomb you still lose aggro |
| 18:03.18 | kebinusan | we just had two warriors tank them together and hit eachothers mobs a few times |
| 18:04.01 | kebinusan | bleh I hate eqdkp, I want to add one thing and I need to edit 100 files |
| 18:04.07 | kenlyric | kebinusan: yeah, that's the proper solution. |
| 18:04.37 | kenlyric | but with wildly varying tanking skills, I found it practical to have many different backup methods :) |
| 18:04.47 | NeoTron | an even easier solution is to have a paladin run in and aggro with shield on and have the rest of the raid just run by |
| 18:05.14 | kebinusan | free action potions, though I think you still lose aggro not sure tho |
| 18:05.24 | kebinusan | least you can intervene then |
| 18:05.24 | xyu | believe so, yes |
| 18:05.30 | kenlyric | they reset? |
| 18:05.43 | xyu | after the pally dies sure :) |
| 18:05.48 | kenlyric | ah :) |
| 18:05.53 | kenlyric | I approve of this method. |
| 18:06.05 | kebinusan | they arent that bad to fight |
| 18:06.55 | NeoTron | I know |
| 18:07.02 | NeoTron | we've always killed them np |
| 18:07.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I approve of any method that involves pallies dying. |
| 18:07.20 | *** part/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@ekm-s-216-160.resnet.CSUChico.EDU) |
| 18:07.50 | kenlyric | kebinusan: in a perfect world, they aren't that bad to fight. |
| 18:08.05 | kenlyric | like illhoof is a pushover provided he doesn't keep sacrificing your tank. |
| 18:08.16 | kenlyric | every single time you fight him in th epast two weeks. |
| 18:08.33 | NightHawkTheSane | isnt that being fixed too? |
| 18:08.38 | kenlyric | not that I'm bitter. |
| 18:08.49 | kenlyric | indeedily |
| 18:08.52 | kebinusan | illhoof is pretty stupid IMO |
| 18:09.05 | kebinusan | at least in its current incarnation |
| 18:09.10 | NeoTron | the MT aspect of illhoof is dumb |
| 18:09.14 | NeoTron | but they are fixing that |
| 18:09.25 | NeoTron | we once had the MT sacrificed like 4 times in one fight |
| 18:09.28 | kebinusan | yeah, only took them what? going on 5 months to get 2.1 out the door |
| 18:10.31 | kenlyric | well, to be fair illhoof was a lot easier for part of that time. |
| 18:10.46 | kebinusan | true then they broke him bad |
| 18:10.53 | NeoTron | to be fair 2.1 adds quite a lot of new stuff |
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| 18:11.07 | kenlyric | expect lots of things to be broken :) |
| 18:11.10 | NeoTron | only the MT aspect makes the fight remotely hard |
| 18:11.17 | NeoTron | kara is so buggy though |
| 18:11.25 | kenlyric | try doing it without aoe. |
| 18:11.30 | kenlyric | I bet it's hard then. |
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| 18:12.23 | NeoTron | prince failure to reset, netherspite perma-200% damage buffed, nightbane evadign and not resetting properly when the last death occured from rain of bones, aran not properly registing as dead if he dies during sheep, moroes not properly registering as dead if he dies during vanish |
| 18:12.28 | NeoTron | yep. lots of bugs |
| 18:12.29 | kebinusan | yeah, its certainly fun to sit there for 10 minutes spamming seed of corruption |
| 18:12.43 | NeoTron | kebinusan: why would anyone do that? |
| 18:12.50 | NeoTron | hellfire FTW |
| 18:13.06 | kebinusan | NeoTron: apparently on nightbane too if you use the urn after he's dead the doors lock |
| 18:13.13 | NeoTron | seed of corruption uses more mana and gets interrupted a lot. didn't feel it was very effective at all |
| 18:13.14 | kebinusan | had fun with that one when we didnt have a mage in the party |
| 18:13.22 | NeoTron | haha |
| 18:13.23 | kenlyric | 10 minutes? |
| 18:13.39 | NeoTron | overall lots of bugs there for sure |
| 18:13.44 | kenlyric | we've never had a mage in the party. |
| 18:13.51 | NeoTron | last night we had gruul stop using hurtful strike AND ground slam/shatter |
| 18:14.04 | kenlyric | and I'm pretty sure warlocks have always done Seed of corruption for aoe in Kara |
| 18:14.08 | kebinusan | NeoTron: yeah, the whole two tank is the mechanic that makes it stupid, at least with SoC the aoer doesnt die if the mt gets sacc'd |
| 18:14.08 | NeoTron | and the healers STILL failed to keep the MT up (died at like 11th growth - a clear WTF) |
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| 18:14.34 | NeoTron | kenlyric: in general SoC is better. On Illhoof hellfire is superior |
| 18:14.34 | kebinusan | NeoTron: yeah our first kill was like that |
| 18:14.36 | kenlyric | NeoTron: I have no idea what that means, but I agree. |
| 18:14.43 | NeoTron | if and only if you have 70% non-interruption to dest spells |
| 18:14.49 | NeoTron | if you don't have that, SoC is the only alternaive |
| 18:15.07 | kenlyric | i'll talk to our warlocks next time we're there. |
| 18:15.09 | Lyf | Could anyone help me with a PitBull_Spark error I'm having? |
| 18:15.11 | kebinusan | NeoTron: well unless your mt gets sacc'd then you'll probably get oneshot by illhoof if you're hellfiring |
| 18:15.25 | NeoTron | basically hellfire + paladin concentration aura OR shaman earth shield is the win |
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| 18:15.33 | kenlyric | though honestly, I think we're just going to stop going until the patch. |
| 18:15.49 | kebinusan | or the imp coming over and hitting you after a spawn |
| 18:15.59 | NeoTron | kebinusan: that is possibly true although it is possible for the OT to maintain second aggro |
| 18:16.15 | NeoTron | kebinusan: no he doesn't if you're smart enough to stop hellfiring when the weakned is over |
| 18:16.18 | CIA-23 | 03jerry * r34449 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add "Spell Power" generic pattern |
| 18:16.21 | kenlyric | yeah, that's the other solution, bring a second tank. |
| 18:16.26 | NeoTron | and you want salvation, not kings, for sure |
| 18:16.31 | Hjalte | I just updated KC_items beta from SVN. Does anyone know how to turn off the range feature in the tooltips and show only a single medium price? :) |
| 18:17.12 | NeoTron | what they need is to add in all affliction spells to be 70% non-interruptable |
| 18:17.12 | kebinusan | the biggest problem is the mt getting sacc'd cause you need someone tanking the imp and two tanks on illhoof and most groups I do dont run that deep with warriors/feral druids |
| 18:17.14 | kenlyric | but since we do illhoof usuall right after aran or prince, we don't usually have one, and I think we're eternally optomistic that *this* time, the tank won't get sacced twice in a row. |
| 18:17.17 | NeoTron | SoC and UA are annoying now |
| 18:17.23 | kenlyric | or that sacc won't bug out and just keep the tank there forever... |
| 18:17.36 | kenlyric | that happened two of the four times last night. |
| 18:17.39 | NeoTron | kebinusan: a tank can hold aggro on the imp and second aggro on illhoof |
| 18:17.44 | kebinusan | NeoTron: no sorry, affliction locks have enough instant casts they dont need interrupt prevention too |
| 18:17.45 | NeoTron | at least a druid tank and proably a paldin too |
| 18:18.09 | kebinusan | NeoTron: we dont typically have feral druids or paladins in karazhan groups |
| 18:18.11 | kebinusan | so yeah |
| 18:18.19 | kebinusan | paladin tanks that is |
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| 18:18.49 | CIA-23 | 03gagorian * r34450 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 18:18.49 | CIA-23 | DrDamage: |
| 18:18.49 | CIA-23 | -Fixed wand damage with InfiniBar |
| 18:19.19 | kenlyric | i've almost perfected getting into concecrate range on maiden. |
| 18:19.30 | kenlyric | so much nice of a fight when you don't sit there doing nothing. |
| 18:19.36 | kenlyric | *nicer |
| 18:21.38 | Gngsk | ~lart ulic |
| 18:21.38 | purl | beats ulic into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 18:21.52 | ulic | what was that for? |
| 18:22.09 | Gngsk | welcome back! |
| 18:22.14 | ulic | hehe |
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| 18:30.46 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Chipmunk.jpg |
| 18:31.25 | hyperChipmunk | that'll teach 'em to drink in battlegrounds |
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| 18:35.33 | hyperChipmunk | from the dewdrop wiki: table - AceOO object with which to draw options from. |
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| 18:35.55 | hyperChipmunk | i like how he went out of the way to avoid ending the sentence with a preposition |
| 18:36.01 | hyperChipmunk | ...and then added one anyways |
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| 18:38.23 | Fisker- | btw |
| 18:38.38 | kovi | [ 20:13:35 ] [ kenlyric ] try doing it without aoe. <- we always let a healer 'kite' the imps |
| 18:38.50 | kovi | oh goddamnit |
| 18:38.54 | kovi | scrolling up = bad |
| 18:38.55 | kovi | :< |
| 18:39.05 | Fisker- | Anyone know if hand of eternity is getting buffed? |
| 18:39.13 | kenlyric | heh :) |
| 18:43.10 | shieldb | Fisker-, you mean to maybe looking like a level 5 grey item instead of a level 1 white item? |
| 18:43.28 | Fisker- | nein |
| 18:45.39 | Ominous | do buffs from trinkets have a place in babble spell ? |
| 18:47.05 | Fisker- | http://www.hitpoints.org/wowptr/weaps/Talon_of_Azshara.gif <-anyone know the addon used here? |
| 18:47.32 | shieldb | on the left? that looks like auctioneer |
| 18:47.44 | Fisker- | oh godn o |
| 18:49.17 | shieldb | oop, nm |
| 18:49.24 | *** join/#wowace DaIgeb (n=test@84-74-62-177.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 18:49.27 | shieldb | that's saeris's lootlink |
| 18:49.38 | Ominous | anyone? ^^ |
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| 18:50.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Ominous: if you're asking if they exist there, you can check yourself, if you're asking if it's appropriate to put them there. *shrug* i'd say yes but i'm not in charge |
| 18:50.29 | Fisker- | saeris? |
| 18:50.35 | Jagobah | the guy that runs hitpoints.org |
| 18:50.39 | Jagobah | used to be in our guild |
| 18:50.52 | DaIgeb | hi there, i am trying to pass an argument by the optionstable, but somehow I can't bring it to work. Can someone help? |
| 18:51.09 | Fisker- | the guy who runs http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/ is in our guild |
| 18:51.11 | Fisker- | cause that's me |
| 18:51.16 | Jagobah | =] |
| 18:51.17 | shieldb | Fisker-, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5608 |
| 18:52.02 | Fisker- | Someone needs to split the mods up though :io |
| 18:52.02 | Fisker- | :o |
| 18:52.10 | Fisker- | or i should beg vhaar |
| 18:52.14 | Fisker- | to make changes to mendeelev |
| 18:52.21 | Fisker- | gonna do the latter |
| 18:53.43 | DaIgeb | noone has a clue of the ace options table? |
| 18:56.37 | Ominous | if you have a svn diff file how do you apply it to the svn working copy |
| 18:58.03 | nevcairiel | with tortoise? |
| 18:58.06 | Ominous | no |
| 18:58.10 | Ominous | svn command line |
| 18:58.25 | nevcairiel | i don think svn commandline has an integrated tool |
| 18:58.28 | nevcairiel | use patch |
| 18:58.29 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:58.31 | CIA-23 | 03elkano * r34451 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.lua: ElkBuffBars - added check for tench name changes (drycoded) |
| 18:58.39 | Ominous | patch? |
| 18:58.51 | NeoTron | Hrm so a fight in serpentshire recommends a warlock with soul link + master demonologist |
| 18:59.10 | nevcairiel | patch is a unix tool to apply patches. |
| 18:59.13 | nevcairiel | if you are on windows |
| 18:59.15 | nevcairiel | get some tool. |
| 18:59.30 | NightHawkTheSane | there's exe's of the unix patch utility for windows |
| 19:01.12 | Elkano | cygwin? |
| 19:02.01 | Fisker- | Elkano!111 |
| 19:02.18 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r34452 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell - Added some missing spells |
| 19:02.44 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb better commit messages |
| 19:03.13 | Elkano | Fisker-, become a hero... :/ |
| 19:03.40 | ckknight | hey all, how's everyone doing? |
| 19:03.51 | Ominous | ckknight: do buffs from trinkets have a place in babble spell ? |
| 19:03.57 | Fisker- | ok Elkano |
| 19:04.02 | ckknight | yep, Ominous |
| 19:04.03 | Fisker- | especially since the suicide term is "an hero" |
| 19:04.10 | Fisker- | i'm doing fine :o |
| 19:04.10 | Ominous | ckknight: thanks : |
| 19:05.24 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 19:06.20 | hyperChipmunk | an hero is valid pronunciation |
| 19:06.38 | kenlyric | maybe in some fruity country. |
| 19:06.42 | hyperChipmunk | just like an herb |
| 19:06.47 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/res/26259779.html#26259779 <-YEAH I MADE A COMBO |
| 19:07.02 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: unless it's an Herb |
| 19:07.19 | dotted | how can that be valid? |
| 19:07.34 | hyperChipmunk | listen to a Brit say 'hero' and it'll make sense |
| 19:07.46 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: like I said, some fruity country ;) |
| 19:07.55 | NightHawkTheSane | listening to brits say -anything- doesnt make sense |
| 19:08.12 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: so when you do something like '["DATE"] = date("%A, %B %d, %Y"),' inside of an AceLocale RegisterTranslations, does that only get updated on login/reload? |
| 19:08.15 | kenlyric | an hero makes perfect sense in england. Not so much north america. |
| 19:08.27 | ckknight | yes, Arrowmaster |
| 19:08.35 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: found a bug in clockfu |
| 19:08.41 | ckknight | k? |
| 19:09.01 | Arrowmaster | date doesnt update |
| 19:09.11 | ckknight | lol |
| 19:09.16 | ckknight | whoever did that was a total nub |
| 19:09.18 | ckknight | and wasn't me. |
| 19:11.07 | hyperChipmunk | saved from a lazy blame-check by kerg's eol spree |
| 19:12.05 | ckknight | was that you, hyperChipmunk? |
| 19:12.37 | syeren | ckknight. |
| 19:12.39 | syeren | I have a screenshot. |
| 19:12.42 | syeren | Of my read out. |
| 19:12.43 | Arrowmaster | well im fixing it |
| 19:12.44 | syeren | if you want it. |
| 19:12.50 | syeren | (For the debuff frame color thing.) |
| 19:13.07 | ckknight | read out? |
| 19:13.15 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: too late |
| 19:13.18 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34453 10FuBar_ClockFu/ (6 files): FuBar_ClockFu - make L["DATE"] a format string to have date() ran on instead of calling date() like a total nub in the registration. |
| 19:13.23 | syeren | That /print thing :) |
| 19:13.29 | ckknight | syeren: okay |
| 19:13.40 | syeren | I had debuff colors when I had Pitbull all ine one folder. |
| 19:13.40 | ckknight | syeren: pastey or something |
| 19:13.41 | syeren | I updated it, it split it all. |
| 19:13.42 | syeren | And gone. |
| 19:13.48 | ckknight | so pastey. |
| 19:13.50 | DaIgeb | ckknight can I ask you something? |
| 19:13.56 | ckknight | DaIgeb: I suppose. |
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| 19:14.41 | Herio | anyone know if you can make a make a macro that executes a spell if your target's target is yourself? |
| 19:14.47 | syeren | ckknight: http://fabrikate.org/wow/ckk.jpg |
| 19:15.57 | Ominous | ckknight: is there a way to go through the translations on acelocale and see if there are any that havent been used? |
| 19:16.28 | ckknight | not currently... no easy way, at least |
| 19:16.56 | hyperChipmunk | Ominous: in the code? |
| 19:17.20 | Ominous | hc: what do you mean? |
| 19:17.27 | Ominous | ckk: ok |
| 19:17.30 | hyperChipmunk | i'm trying to figure out what you mean |
| 19:17.39 | Jagobah | what is pitbull |
| 19:18.05 | hyperChipmunk | unit frames |
| 19:18.22 | ckknight | DaIgeb: you gonna ask? |
| 19:19.02 | Jagobah | that looks like agunitframes :O |
| 19:19.17 | DaIgeb | i did didnt you get it? |
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| 19:20.36 | Arrowmaster | if you sent him a private message, you have to be identified on freenode to be able to send private messages |
| 19:20.51 | DaIgeb | argh that must be it |
| 19:20.54 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r34454 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: added some trinket buffs |
| 19:21.43 | Ominous | when i have finished with a meta table should i nil it as i only need it on load |
| 19:22.49 | syeren | ckknight, can you see a problem at all? |
| 19:23.16 | ckknight | on your end, yes |
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| 19:24.37 | ckknight | syeren: do green borders show up on buffs? |
| 19:25.38 | syeren | Yes. |
| 19:25.43 | syeren | But nothing on Debuffs. |
| 19:25.47 | syeren | Even with the options enabled. |
| 19:26.07 | syeren | But if I have all the addons together, it works (as in no seperatation in the files in my Addons directory.) |
| 19:26.10 | syeren | If that means anything. |
| 19:26.39 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34455 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - fix bug where debuff highlights wouldn't show up. |
| 19:26.46 | ckknight | k, test that |
| 19:26.52 | syeren | Send it me. |
| 19:26.59 | syeren | Otherwise I have to wait 25 minutes ;p |
| 19:27.03 | syeren | *20 |
| 19:27.19 | hyperChipmunk | just copy from the url |
| 19:27.33 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua |
| 19:27.39 | NightHawkTheSane | l2svn, yeesh :P |
| 19:31.57 | syeren | [2007/05/04 20:25:45-868-x1]: PitBull_Aura\Aura.lua:8: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 19:31.57 | syeren | --- |
| 19:32.27 | ckknight | oh, change the revision string to "$Revision: 40000 $" |
| 19:32.36 | nevcairiel | you cant simply copy from websvn .. heh :) |
| 19:34.43 | syeren | Is there anyway I can remove an addon from being listed on the WAU? |
| 19:34.54 | ckknight | remove it from files |
| 19:34.55 | syeren | Like the latest version of coolDown is bugged, and has no support. |
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| 19:36.20 | syeren | How come this happens now: |
| 19:36.21 | syeren | Postal - Updating to rev 31874.4 |
| 19:36.23 | syeren | For example. |
| 19:36.33 | syeren | Like it's updated that same version 3 times in the last 5 minutes ;p |
| 19:37.56 | DaIgeb | is there a class to save values into the db? |
| 19:38.29 | ckknight | c |
| 19:38.31 | ckknight | lass? |
| 19:38.46 | ckknight | what do you mean by class? |
| 19:39.07 | DaIgeb | a aceLibrary oder a class like in oo programing |
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| 19:40.16 | kergoth | AceDB is a mixin, not a class. |
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| 19:45.22 | evl | ckknight: I'm getting wierdness deluxe all over my frames with latest rev |
| 19:45.40 | ckknight | how do you mean |
| 19:45.51 | evl | in isntance now will send screens in a bit |
| 19:46.06 | syeren | Works perfect ckk. |
| 19:46.07 | syeren | Thanks. |
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| 19:46.33 | evl | the combopoint texture is sort of covering all my bars |
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| 19:47.28 | Kinkx | Boo, my whole guild switched to Deadlybossmods from Bigwigs :( |
| 19:48.55 | Megalon | /script loadstring("GuildLeave()"); |
| 19:49.00 | FISKER_Q | i agree |
| 19:49.02 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34456 10PitBull/ (ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua Layouts/ABF.lua): PitBull - potentially fix issues with combo points being stretched oddly. |
| 19:49.04 | nevcairiel | i just made my whole guild switch to BigWigs |
| 19:49.10 | nevcairiel | good being a raid leader |
| 19:49.15 | FISKER_Q | I AM THE OFFICER |
| 19:49.16 | nevcairiel | "Use BigWigs if you want on the raid" |
| 19:49.18 | ckknight | Megalon: doesn't work that way |
| 19:49.24 | FISKER_Q | Andi will veto any changes to DBM |
| 19:49.26 | Megalon | oh |
| 19:49.31 | ckknight | you need /script loadstring("GuildLeave()")() |
| 19:49.31 | FISKER_Q | >P |
| 19:49.34 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 19:49.38 | Megalon | oh |
| 19:49.52 | FISKER_Q | isn't /gquit easier anyways? |
| 19:50.00 | wallen | Yay |
| 19:50.03 | Megalon | but /gquit |
| 19:50.05 | Megalon | is not |
| 19:50.09 | wallen | did the debuff highlighting get fixed in PitBull? |
| 19:50.10 | Megalon | deadlybossmod-style |
| 19:50.13 | Megalon | ;X |
| 19:50.15 | FISKER_Q | hehe |
| 19:50.17 | FISKER_Q | that way |
| 19:50.26 | Megalon | perhaps you can do something like |
| 19:50.39 | FISKER_Q | wait |
| 19:50.46 | FISKER_Q | Is the loadstring function something it broadcasts to a raid? |
| 19:50.51 | Megalon | /script loadstring('RunScript("/gquit")')() |
| 19:50.52 | FISKER_Q | Cause then i want DBM actually |
| 19:50.59 | ckknight | no, Megalon |
| 19:51.00 | FISKER_Q | and i want all others to use it too |
| 19:51.02 | FISKER_Q | then i can do stuff |
| 19:51.03 | Megalon | hm |
| 19:51.05 | ckknight | RunScript doesn't work that way |
| 19:51.09 | Megalon | hmpf |
| 19:51.10 | Megalon | >:< |
| 19:51.17 | Herio | I wrote my self a corkfu module for warlock pets, I'm sure I'm doing some things terribly wrong, but it works, anyone have any comments on it? =P |
| 19:51.19 | Herio | http://ace.pastey.net/22338 |
| 19:51.38 | *** join/#wowace Tak0r (n=tak0r@p57B60582.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:52.45 | Herio | off to class for now |
| 19:54.46 | Nickenyfiken | lol "Black Fat Deeps" |
| 19:56.38 | kenlyric | but but but but! |
| 19:56.54 | kenlyric | DBM has that dealy where you whisper and you know what's going on. |
| 19:57.01 | kenlyric | critical to any boss notification mod.... |
| 19:57.29 | Vangual | "is he dead yeti?" |
| 19:57.32 | FISKER_Q | obviously |
| 19:57.37 | FISKER_Q | /dnd is not enough |
| 19:57.56 | nadas | heh, that's the only feature i'm missing after deleting DBM :P |
| 19:57.57 | FISKER_Q | Only thing i would like with BigWigs though is that it kinda kept announces in sync |
| 19:58.00 | kenlyric | I went to dbm for about a week when their maiden timers seemded a bit better, came back when bigwigs got dropdown timers. |
| 19:58.12 | FISKER_Q | I mean so like every 40 people could have announcing enabled and only 1 person would actually announce |
| 19:58.27 | kenlyric | and I thought "I'm going to miss that notification feature" then I remember, that feature doesn't help me at all. |
| 19:58.55 | nadas | well, people used to stop spamming me when they got the auto reply |
| 19:59.02 | nadas | now they just keep spamming me :( |
| 19:59.04 | kenlyric | it's not like it blocks their whispers, which would actually be useful :) |
| 19:59.05 | FISKER_Q | /dnd then |
| 19:59.19 | shieldb | nadas, I use wim and that works pretty well |
| 19:59.27 | shieldb | I've got it set to not automatically open whisper windows |
| 19:59.33 | kenlyric | dropdown timers are of the hot sex. |
| 19:59.36 | nadas | well, it's not that i can't live without it :) |
| 19:59.38 | kenlyric | BW4L |
| 19:59.50 | FISKER_Q | BWAL |
| 19:59.57 | NightHawkTheSane | shieldb: how is WIM anyway? and does it work with spamsentry? |
| 20:00.06 | shieldb | yes, works with spamsentry |
| 20:00.22 | shieldb | I like it, because I run raids as well as being a jewelcrafter/enchanter so I'm in tell hell most of the time |
| 20:00.49 | shieldb | I find it helps me keep conversations seperated and not miss stuff pretty well |
| 20:01.43 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r34457 10Aloft/ (Modules/CommentData.lua Options/Modules/ManaText.lua): |
| 20:01.43 | CIA-23 | Aloft : |
| 20:01.43 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.51 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34458 10PitBull/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: PitBull_ComboPoints - remove unnecessary lines |
| 20:02.24 | Nickenyfiken | Oh unnecessary lines can be bad |
| 20:03.25 | kenlyric | 666 mods according to WAU :) |
| 20:05.04 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34459 10PitBull/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: PitBull_ComboPoints - simplify things on the DogTag end by using the isenergy tag. |
| 20:05.08 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 20:05.11 | ckknight | that's not what I want |
| 20:05.56 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34460 10PitBull/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: PitBull_ComboPoints - temporary hack |
| 20:06.41 | Loki|muh | lol? |
| 20:07.14 | evl | trying to fix stuff :) |
| 20:07.41 | ckknight | anybody else extremely annoyed by noobs saying "lol" to every situation, especially in conditions where it makes no real sense to? |
| 20:07.49 | Necrathex | lol yea |
| 20:07.49 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 20:07.53 | ckknight | lol is not a mantra to be repeated every second sentence. |
| 20:08.02 | chutwig | lulz? |
| 20:08.52 | FryGuy | wow you're right lol |
| 20:08.55 | FryGuy | :p |
| 20:09.07 | Sais | $GENERIC_LAUGH |
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| 20:09.26 | Sais | *hides* |
| 20:09.31 | cotangent | I use laf |
| 20:09.43 | Sais | Now see what you've done, ck :D |
| 20:09.45 | pastamancer | who needs punctuation when you have lol lol |
| 20:10.19 | hyperChipmunk | does pitbull have a global transparency? |
| 20:10.22 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.kpho.com/news/13247479/detail.html <-- that's my old high school -_- |
| 20:10.45 | hyperChipmunk | my g/f's is all faded out and i can't figure out how to fix it |
| 20:10.58 | break19 | she looks hot from the back, is she? |
| 20:11.21 | Antiarc|Work | I dunno, she wasn't there when I was in high school |
| 20:11.27 | Antiarc|Work | I graduated six years ago |
| 20:11.31 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: does she have PitBull_CombatFader? |
| 20:11.35 | Antiarc|Work | http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3136624&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312 |
| 20:11.42 | Antiarc|Work | Face shot. |
| 20:12.26 | break19 | in otherwords.. no |
| 20:12.27 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: that's it, thanks |
| 20:14.01 | xyu | what's the latest endgame armor released for mage so far? |
| 20:14.03 | xyu | tempest? |
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| 20:14.57 | Amadeo | hahahaha what the hell |
| 20:15.02 | Amadeo | World of Warcraft credit cards |
| 20:15.51 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: yes, because people always look their best in a mug shot. |
| 20:16.34 | Kinkx | Only reason guild switched to Deadlybossmods is that BigWigs Lurker timers aren't perfect, they get messed up if he doesn't dive |
| 20:16.38 | kenlyric | 16 isn't minor. Stupid laws. |
| 20:16.54 | ckknight | age of majority at 18, kenlyric |
| 20:16.55 | kenlyric | if they can drive themselves over to teachers house, they can have sex with teacher. |
| 20:17.20 | kenlyric | it's like I type things and they don't come out in channel correctly. You'll note I said "Stupid laws" |
| 20:17.35 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 20:17.45 | ckknight | I'm really not into younger women |
| 20:17.45 | kenlyric | age of consent is less stupid than drinking age, of course. |
| 20:17.54 | ckknight | they just don't interest me |
| 20:18.13 | pastamancer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Arizona |
| 20:19.24 | break19 | what I find amazing is.. we let 16yr olds drive souped-up, 2000lbs machines capable of more than twice the legal speed limit.. and in fact ENCOURAGE them to drive.. but if I give my 18yr old nephew a beer, I'll go to jail for corrupting a minor.. which is more dangerous? his driving is a hell of a lot more dangerous to not only himself, but others, than a damn beer. |
| 20:19.24 | kenlyric | actually, if he is 18, you will not go to jail for corrupting a minor. |
| 20:19.24 | Antiarc|Work | Difference is that transportation is a necessity in society - beer isn't, arguably. |
| 20:19.29 | Antiarc|Work | Some cities, perhaps not |
| 20:19.35 | Antiarc|Work | But the Phoenix metro area is HUGE. |
| 20:19.38 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: so let the parents take em.. lazy bastards |
| 20:19.43 | Antiarc|Work | And there's virtually no public transit. |
| 20:19.58 | Antiarc|Work | break19: Not so easily done all the time :/ |
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| 20:20.02 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: where I live, the only public transport is 911 |
| 20:20.05 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh |
| 20:20.23 | kenlyric | my wife is two years younger than me, so I suppose I was statutory there for a bit :) |
| 20:20.37 | Antiarc|Work | Phoenix is 515 square miles. |
| 20:20.39 | break19 | and where I *USED* to live, they'd come by helicopter, cuz an ambulance wouldnt get to you and back to the hospital in less than 45mins |
| 20:21.00 | Antiarc|Work | And that's just Phoenix proper. |
| 20:21.06 | Antiarc|Work | Phoenix metro is humongeous |
| 20:21.19 | break19 | < been to phoenix. numerous times |
| 20:21.38 | break19 | my mother-in-law's best friends live there |
| 20:21.44 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34461 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 20:21.44 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - allow events to specify what unit they are watching, e.g. UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER(player) will update if player's unit power updates, but not anyone else's. |
| 20:21.44 | CIA-23 | - added tags isplayerpowertype(arg), isplayerrage, isplayerfocus, isplayerenergy, and isplayermana |
| 20:21.58 | ArcaneFoam | can some one help me with a "AceOptions data table" question |
| 20:22.26 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34462 10PitBull/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: PitBull_ComboPoints - make the dogtag registration less funky. |
| 20:22.38 | pastamancer | ArcaneFoam: just ask |
| 20:22.46 | kenlyric | phoenix bus system runs everywhere and continously. When i went there I wasn't old enough to rent, so we had no other choice. |
| 20:22.53 | kenlyric | I can't imagine trying that here. |
| 20:23.16 | kenlyric | so, by some definition of good it might suck, but compared to what I have, it's awesome :) |
| 20:23.45 | ArcaneFoam | how can I change the color of one of the seciotns, I am using the data table to build a dropdown menu for a Fubar plug-in |
| 20:24.06 | ckknight | color of the name or something? |
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| 20:25.35 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm is there any AH price addons except Auctioneer and KCI? |
| 20:26.28 | break19 | fence |
| 20:26.29 | ArcaneFoam | yes, if I have a 'type = "toggle" ' as one of the args, is there a way I can change the color it will show the ' name = L["Show Status Monitor"]' when the menu shows up? |
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| 20:27.40 | Nickenyfiken | Fence save values? |
| 20:27.45 | Nickenyfiken | Didn't know that |
| 20:28.36 | ckknight | ArcaneFoam: yea, color the name |
| 20:28.53 | ckknight | "|cffff0000" .. L["Show Status Monitor"] |
| 20:29.12 | ArcaneFoam | thx |
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| 20:29.45 | ArcaneFoam | i am really new at this, how do u get the hex¿? value for the color u want? |
| 20:30.52 | Antiarc|Work | |caarrggbb |
| 20:31.09 | Antiarc|Work | Take your alpha value, convert from decimal to hex, repeat for r, g, and b |
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| 20:31.32 | ArcaneFoam | thx a lot |
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| 20:33.43 | ckknight | okay, decided to add another syntax oddity to DogTag |
| 20:34.03 | ArcaneFoam | 1 more: is there a way y can use a function to set the text? ie. name = "GetText" ..... function MyAddon:GetText() ... end ? |
| 20:34.56 | pastamancer | keep a reference to the options table and change it through that |
| 20:34.57 | ckknight | [name#player] will get the player's name instead of the current unit's name |
| 20:35.12 | Bam__ | ArcaneFoam: with color you mean? |
| 20:36.02 | ArcaneFoam | i feel so noob... how do I do the reference? |
| 20:36.55 | Bam__ | not really sure what you are trying to do |
| 20:37.26 | CIA-23 | 03ruinna * r34463 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/ (6 files in 3 dirs): FuBar_OutfitterFu: added option to limit length of text displayed in FuBar; added option to abbreviate outfit names displayed in FuBar; updated toc svn externals |
| 20:37.48 | pastamancer | you're defining the option table somewhere, right? |
| 20:38.14 | pastamancer | so do something like optiontable.args["whatever"].name = color .. name |
| 20:40.08 | Bam__ | ArcaneFoam: just a tip.. one of the best ways to get a hang of all this is to look at what other Ace2 addons do :) |
| 20:41.03 | ArcaneFoam | i have looked at other addons, but there is so little documentatin is hard for a begginer to follow |
| 20:41.35 | Bam__ | yea it will take some time to grasp it all :) |
| 20:42.44 | ArcaneFoam | what i want to do is to put in one of the lines of my menu the result of a function from another addon, and put it in color |
| 20:44.03 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34464 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 20:44.03 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - added syntax option #unit, to be put at the end of tags/modifiers, e.g. [name#target] will get the name of your target, no matter what unit frame it belongs to. |
| 20:44.03 | CIA-23 | - turned isplayerpowertype into an alias of ispowertype#player |
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| 20:47.08 | Chompers | sweet, kara bugged for a second time |
| 20:47.16 | Chompers | no chess loot for us two days in a row now |
| 20:47.31 | NightHawkTheSane | thats hot. |
| 20:47.41 | kenlyric | how does chess bug? |
| 20:47.53 | Chompers | shhh harris pilton! |
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| 20:47.59 | Chompers | the chest doesnt spawn |
| 20:48.11 | kenlyric | fun. |
| 20:48.20 | CIA-23 | 03ruinna * r34465 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/ (OutfitterFu.lua OutfitterFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_OutfitterFu: changed abbreviate name option to remove prefixes option; removed debug output message |
| 20:48.20 | kenlyric | is it caused by idiocy or randomness? |
| 20:48.28 | Chompers | the GMs just told us he cant do anything to help |
| 20:48.59 | Chompers | randomness as far as i know |
| 20:55.24 | NeoTron | another fun bug with chess is if you play it again |
| 20:55.36 | NeoTron | it might never end correctly |
| 20:55.45 | NeoTron | so you're stuck with the whole room being a no-combat area |
| 20:56.00 | NeoTron | guess how fun the pre-prince trash (the patrol specifically) is in that situation? :P |
| 20:56.12 | NeoTron | had to pull it through the chess room to the guy with the ethereal vendor |
| 20:56.28 | CIA-23 | 03ruinna * r34466 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/ (4 files): FuBar_OutfitterFu: set svn eol-style to force dos encoding; updated readme, toc; preped for release |
| 20:56.42 | kenlyric | happened to us once. |
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| 21:06.01 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34467 10Manufac/ (7 files): |
| 21:06.01 | CIA-23 | Manufac: |
| 21:06.02 | CIA-23 | - Proper localization on the tooltip hint. |
| 21:06.59 | CIA-23 | 03toadkiller * r34468 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:06.59 | CIA-23 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 21:06.59 | CIA-23 | - Add some missing sets to Consumable |
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| 21:12.48 | Herio | yay for pidgin |
| 21:13.15 | NeoTron | has anyone else noticed autobar not putting summoned food above (some) normal food (same level of healing)? |
| 21:13.50 | xyu | hmm |
| 21:13.54 | xyu | this priest or warrior just polymorphed me |
| 21:13.56 | xyu | in the arena |
| 21:14.13 | kenlyric | "this priest or warrior" |
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| 21:14.18 | kenlyric | it wasn't either. |
| 21:14.19 | Tak0r | O.o |
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| 21:14.27 | xyu | one of them did |
| 21:14.30 | kenlyric | and, seriously, you should be able to tell the difference. |
| 21:14.34 | Chompers | warrior...sheeping |
| 21:14.37 | xyu | why? |
| 21:14.37 | Chompers | i want that skill |
| 21:14.51 | kenlyric | oh, there are two of them. |
| 21:14.52 | xyu | it's a priest and a warrior , neither of which have the spell polymorph |
| 21:14.56 | xyu | in a 2v2 arena |
| 21:15.06 | xyu | but i was poly |
| 21:15.11 | zac | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23835 <- engineerings work, right? |
| 21:15.15 | zac | (in the arena) |
| 21:15.25 | xyu | i was a sheep |
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| 21:15.35 | xyu | and the debuff was Polymorph" |
| 21:15.39 | yacoob | I bet you felt sheepish. |
| 21:16.02 | kenlyric | then it wasn't a priest or it wasn't a warrior. |
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| 21:16.31 | kenlyric | or you just found an awesome bug :) |
| 21:16.34 | xyu | it was both |
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| 21:21.19 | hyperChipmunk | was it after the battle was over? |
| 21:22.17 | CIA-23 | 03toadkiller * r34469 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc Core.lua): |
| 21:22.17 | CIA-23 | AutoBar: |
| 21:22.17 | CIA-23 | -- Add missing sets to PT3 consumable |
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| 21:34.31 | Necrathex | xyu: you are a mage and the warrior reflected your polymorph |
| 21:36.13 | Amadeo | That would be funny |
| 21:37.04 | wallen | http://www.spin.com/features/everybodystalkingabout/2007/05/070504_rage/ |
| 21:37.05 | wallen | rofls |
| 21:38.31 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r34470 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (16 files in 4 dirs): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: cleanups |
| 21:40.14 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r34471 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/Libs/: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: oops externals were Libs\Libs |
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| 21:41.40 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:41.47 | Gngsk | hey |
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| 21:49.00 | Ominous | if you set acebd to use class and then self:toggleactive(cfalse) and then change char will it still be disabled |
| 21:50.23 | hyperChipmunk | hohohhohoho |
| 21:50.43 | hyperChipmunk | new bulkmail autosend interface is nnooooooooice |
| 21:50.43 | Ominous | anyone? ^ |
| 21:53.09 | Diao | does it work with postman :o |
| 21:54.38 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r34472 10FuBar_PoisonReminderFu/Core.lua: FuBar_PoisonReminderFu: fix bug |
| 21:56.32 | Gngsk | is the bigwigs fubar plugin tooltip working as intended? |
| 21:56.34 | kergoth | poisonreminderfu acts oddly when you switch poisons |
| 21:56.40 | Ominous | how? |
| 21:56.59 | kergoth | when the thing to reapply pops up, and i go apply something different, it doesnt seem to pick up the change |
| 21:57.06 | kergoth | not sure if its when the reapply thing is still up or when i cancel it |
| 21:57.15 | kergoth | but half the time it tries to apply the old one next time it runs out |
| 21:57.24 | Ominous | you have it ont he last allpied one? |
| 21:57.29 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:57.58 | Ominous | odd |
| 21:58.10 | kergoth | quite |
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| 22:15.18 | Ominous | kergoth: what exactly happens? |
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| 22:21.44 | ckknight | my guild is gonna be running Kara and Gruul's lair soon. What addons should they have? |
| 22:21.56 | Mikma | ckknight: titan and atlas |
| 22:21.56 | nymbia | bigwigs ;) |
| 22:22.01 | nymbia | lol |
| 22:22.42 | Ominous | ckknight: maybe that new drawing mod |
| 22:22.45 | Ominous | for tatics |
| 22:22.53 | Aenslaed | bigwigs is fine. The rest of the mods are class specific. Also a mod to make sure you dont bring downs with you. |
| 22:23.03 | Ominous | oRA2, bigwigs, KTM if you feel noobish like my guild |
| 22:23.09 | CIA-23 | 03toadkiller * r34473 10AutoBar/AutoBarItemList.lua: |
| 22:23.09 | CIA-23 | AutoBar: |
| 22:23.09 | CIA-23 | -- Add Summon Warhorse and Summon Felsteed |
| 22:23.10 | Aenslaed | Ominous: ooh, there's a mod that lets you do that now? |
| 22:23.13 | Phatrik | ckknight : be sure to stack lots of Noggenfogger |
| 22:23.20 | Phatrik | Karazhan is the UBRS of TBC :< |
| 22:23.30 | Aenslaed | Phatrik: no, more zg than ubrs |
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| 22:23.35 | Megalon | well |
| 22:23.37 | Megalon | ubrs was hard |
| 22:23.44 | Megalon | at the very beginning |
| 22:23.50 | Mikma | § |
| 22:23.53 | nevcairiel | at first you could run UBRS with 15 - a 10 man dungeon |
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| 22:24.10 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: /knife |
| 22:24.26 | Megalon | when will the patch come where kara will be open for 15man raids |
| 22:24.30 | Megalon | more casual friendly! :D |
| 22:24.40 | Phatrik | 15-man? :/ |
| 22:24.43 | kenlyric | heh :) |
| 22:24.52 | kenlyric | Phatrik: like UBRS :) |
| 22:24.55 | nevcairiel | casual friendly |
| 22:24.58 | nevcairiel | comeone |
| 22:25.02 | nevcairiel | kara is pisseasy |
| 22:25.11 | nevcairiel | even gruul is way too easy now |
| 22:25.13 | kenlyric | not with idiots |
| 22:25.18 | Megalon | yay |
| 22:25.20 | Aenslaed | Ominous: btw, you really dont need KTM. |
| 22:25.27 | Ominous | i know |
| 22:25.28 | Aenslaed | especially for guilds that aren't raiders primarily |
| 22:25.37 | ggilbert | Megalon: To make it fit blizzard's new definition of casual friendly I think they'd need to double npc attack power and cut the raid size to 2. |
| 22:25.38 | Ominous | hence the noobish like my guild |
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| 22:26.07 | Aenslaed | Ominous: too many people dont understand what threat is so even with a meter, it doesn't help any. |
| 22:26.35 | nevcairiel | its something to be high on! |
| 22:26.43 | Megalon | it's a chart |
| 22:26.46 | nevcairiel | more threat, more damage |
| 22:26.48 | Megalon | so time to get top #1! |
| 22:26.55 | nevcairiel | linear function :D |
| 22:27.07 | kebinusan | I thought htey just needed rdx |
| 22:28.38 | nevcairiel | yeah let them buy the latest rdy |
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| 22:28.40 | kenlyric | threat meter was useful as a learning tool, or in fights where things beside top threat mattered |
| 22:28.40 | nevcairiel | *rdx |
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| 22:28.40 | kebinusan | Im winning at threat! yay |
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| 22:28.41 | kenlyric | like, staying out of the top 10 on vael |
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| 22:31.04 | kebinusan | min/maxers love threatmeters tho |
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| 22:31.04 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
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| 22:31.06 | Aenslaed | kenlyric: The only time I needed KTM, was the first couple weeks of TBC |
| 22:31.06 | Aenslaed | now there is no point |
| 22:31.06 | nevcairiel | didnt you read the announce hyperChipmunk ? :D |
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| 22:31.06 | kenlyric | needed != useful |
| 22:31.06 | kebinusan | lets you squeeze a bit more out of your dps cycle if you are near teh threat cap, its also good for classes with no way to actively dump threat, like shadow priests, shaman, warriors |
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| 22:31.07 | nevcairiel | thats no dump |
| 22:31.07 | Aenslaed | I pulled aggro a hell of alot in the first couple weeks, now I dont at all. Still end up top 5 on bosses that bleed |
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| 22:31.08 | kenlyric | it's a better dump than a shaman or warrior :) |
| 22:31.08 | Amadeo | http://www.pidgin.im/ |
| 22:31.08 | Amadeo | Cute new layout :P |
| 22:31.08 | kergoth | Ominous: say i'm applying deadly, it pops up when it wears off, then i cancel it and apply instant, then the instant wears off, and it asks to apply deadly. |
| 22:31.08 | kergoth | Ominous: its happened that way like 5 times today so far |
| 22:31.08 | wallen | oh |
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| 22:31.09 | wallen | did they release the first version of pidgin? |
| 22:31.09 | Megalon | shaman got no threat dump? ankh! |
| 22:31.09 | ulic | hehe |
| 22:31.09 | Aenslaed | god |
| 22:31.09 | hyperChipmunk | wallen: yea, it's not bad |
| 22:31.09 | ulic | threat dump with a 40-60m cooldown |
| 22:31.09 | Aenslaed | we had some new enhancement shaman in our guild. Kept pulling aggro over and over, cause he insisted on using the windfury 5/4 bug |
| 22:31.10 | wallen | I'll try it right away, I was using the latest version of gaim |
| 22:32.16 | nevcairiel | i should try that pidgin .. i like the name :D |
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| 22:33.24 | wallen | the only thing I didn't like about gaim was the transfer speeds over MSN protocol but there wasn't much to do about that I guess |
| 22:33.24 | kebinusan | sip support would be nice |
| 22:33.52 | Amadeo | I'd like any of them to support AIM Lite's new offline messaging |
| 22:33.52 | Amadeo | but nobody does |
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| 22:36.33 | rubik | miranda > * |
| 22:36.52 | rubik | (err.. on windows) |
| 22:36.53 | Ominous | kergoth: ok ill ook |
| 22:37.28 | kergoth | thanks. i havent managed to nail down an exact sequence to repro it unfortunately :| |
| 22:37.34 | kergoth | annoying when it happens though |
| 22:37.37 | kebinusan | I always liked trillian on windows |
| 22:37.52 | kebinusan | but I dont run windows anymo |
| 22:37.55 | rubik | trilian is bloated crap sorta |
| 22:38.37 | kergoth | yea it is. it used to be nice long ago before the bloat & feature creep |
| 22:38.41 | Mikma | Adium <3 |
| 22:39.51 | kebinusan | feature rich I believe is the term some would use |
| 22:41.40 | Chompers | ckknight |
| 22:41.44 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 22:41.45 | ckknight | Chompers |
| 22:42.06 | Chompers | your guild should check out cosmos, its totally awesome kool for your guild |
| 22:42.24 | Chompers | god damnit, am i over an hour late to the joke? |
| 22:42.53 | kebinusan | Im kind of amazed guilds would pay for rdx |
| 22:43.25 | shieldb | kebinusan, because it costs money it has percieved value |
| 22:43.33 | Ominous | kergoth: i cant see why it wld happen but maybe you cld add a few debug lines in to see what isnt being picked up when the error occurs |
| 22:43.56 | kergoth | good idea |
| 22:44.33 | CIA-23 | 03sole * r34474 10Gladiator/ (Gladiator.lua comm.lua frame.lua playerdata.lua): |
| 22:44.33 | CIA-23 | Gladiator: |
| 22:44.33 | CIA-23 | - Code optimizations. |
| 22:44.33 | CIA-23 | - Now scans the health of the focus unit. |
| 22:44.33 | CIA-23 | - Now only sends/recieves health update comms from mouseover/focus units. No need to send target health anymore due to next change. |
| 22:44.34 | CIA-23 | - Scans partyNtarget units while in arena for health updates. |
| 22:44.36 | CIA-23 | - Better death detection. |
| 22:46.08 | kergoth | wtf |
| 22:46.14 | kergoth | i just gathered an ancient lichen and got a green ring with it |
| 22:46.21 | nymbia | yup ;) |
| 22:46.24 | Cryect | you also get necklaces |
| 22:46.31 | kergoth | thats nifty, never had that happen |
| 22:46.34 | Cryect | and for some reason ancient lichen has a high rate of resistance rings |
| 22:46.49 | Amadeo | lichen is green, right? makes sense! |
| 22:46.50 | Cryect | 50% of the rings or so are like lvl 60 resistance rings |
| 22:47.14 | Cryect | that and the bone whatever ring |
| 22:50.34 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34475 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 22:50.34 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - add better support for #unit syntax. |
| 22:50.34 | CIA-23 | - :UpdateAllForUnit("unit") will apply to fontstrings that have the #unit syntax. |
| 22:50.34 | CIA-23 | - assorted cleanup. |
| 22:51.59 | hyperChipmunk | quitter |
| 22:53.09 | CIA-23 | 03sole * r34476 10Gladiator/Gladiator.lua: Gladiator: Removed a debug print message. |
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| 22:58.44 | wallen | Sole: when is the database getting updated? |
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| 22:59.01 | Sole | wallen: poke nymbia about that |
| 23:01.39 | nymbia | ow my spleen |
| 23:02.01 | nymbia | i'll run a US update when i go to sleep tonight if i remember |
| 23:04.13 | yacoob_ | spleen and ideal? |
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| 23:15.29 | kergoth | ~emulate dib |
| 23:15.34 | purl | Oh you're just *begging* to face the MOOSE. |
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| 23:16.07 | kergoth | hehe. <3 invader zim |
| 23:16.12 | wallen | do you use a script to retrieve the informations, nymbia? |
| 23:16.16 | wallen | Could I help in anyway? |
| 23:20.19 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34477 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Netherspite.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Netherspite: phase shifts seem to be a lot less reliable |
| 23:22.46 | NeoTron | http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=4006&page=1 |
| 23:23.20 | NeoTron | so a request for Bigwigs, Netherspite specifically - any way to get a highly visible / audible warning when you're taking damage from a void zone? |
| 23:23.44 | NeoTron | when you're lock-tanking the entire blue beam you need to react pretty darn fast to not die |
| 23:25.22 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34478 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua: |
| 23:25.22 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Malchezaar: |
| 23:25.22 | CIA-23 | - reduce shadow nova cooldown slightly |
| 23:25.22 | CIA-23 | - use UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START for shadow nova instead, damn combat log range nerf! |
| 23:25.43 | Funkeh` | NeoTron: sure |
| 23:26.03 | NeoTron | that makes me happy. :) |
| 23:26.26 | NeoTron | although the other night I died from a 5700 shadow aura tick and a 5900 void zone tick |
| 23:26.30 | NeoTron | the same second |
| 23:26.31 | nymbia | warn when you get the debuff, not when you take damage |
| 23:26.40 | NeoTron | is there a debuff? |
| 23:26.41 | nymbia | since if you move fast enough, you wont take damage ;) |
| 23:26.43 | Funkeh` | ah fuck |
| 23:26.45 | Funkeh` | thats not channeled |
| 23:27.09 | Funkeh` | back to wowwiki |
| 23:27.16 | NeoTron | I know nightbane's aoe has a debuff associated with ie (dispellable too, which is mean) |
| 23:27.41 | nymbia | hmm.. you know, now i'm not sure |
| 23:27.56 | NeoTron | I died too fast to notice. heh |
| 23:28.02 | Funkeh` | i presume its you are afflicted by void zone |
| 23:28.14 | NeoTron | that might be the case |
| 23:28.16 | Funkeh` | hmm actually i think there sin't which is why we didn't add it.. |
| 23:28.22 | Funkeh` | isn't* |
| 23:28.51 | NeoTron | still useful to warn on damage since I often stand in there 3-4 ticks before I notice (yeah I knw :) |
| 23:29.04 | knarf- | here is a tip |
| 23:29.27 | knarf- | ground becomes black and weird, move :P |
| 23:29.35 | Funkeh` | UNIT_SPELLCAST_START that should work for malch right? |
| 23:29.41 | nymbia | yeah Funkeh` |
| 23:29.50 | NeoTron | well problem is when channeling with the blue beam I don't immediately notice because I pay attention to other stuf |
| 23:30.12 | NeoTron | and I die so fast when I have many debuffs on me the margin for error is almost nonexistant |
| 23:30.40 | knarf- | pay more attention to the floor then :) |
| 23:31.19 | NeoTron | a big move you idiot warning works better for me :P |
| 23:31.32 | NeoTron | only once I think the death was unavoidable though |
| 23:31.46 | shieldb | NeoTron, there isn't really a good way to warn for that if it's a dire situation, though |
| 23:31.58 | shieldb | bigwigs already has a notification when the void zone gets created |
| 23:32.01 | NeoTron | shieldb: if it warns the first tick, that is enough most of the time |
| 23:32.12 | NeoTron | as I said, sometimes I don't notioce for 3-4 ticks |
| 23:32.26 | shieldb | if you're taking blue beam the whole time one tick may be all it takes ;) |
| 23:32.29 | NeoTron | because I'm too concentrated on netherspite and expect to take huge chunks of damage |
| 23:32.34 | NeoTron | that is true |
| 23:32.43 | NeoTron | but as I said, I think only once did just one tick kill me |
| 23:32.59 | shieldb | really I'd suggest just look for the "Void Zone Spawned (#)" warnings and glance down when you see them |
| 23:33.00 | NeoTron | combined with the nice aoe aura that is |
| 23:33.20 | hyperChipmunk | make it show the OutOfControlFrame =) |
| 23:33.23 | NeoTron | optional warning that triggers on the damage taken > no warning |
| 23:33.26 | NeoTron | you don't have to use it. :) |
| 23:33.31 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34479 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua: |
| 23:33.31 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Malchezaar: |
| 23:33.31 | CIA-23 | - its a cast not a channeled spell :p |
| 23:33.32 | hyperChipmunk | that's really hard to miss |
| 23:35.06 | hyperChipmunk | just do it on your local copy or something |
| 23:36.25 | kergoth | OutOfControlFrame? |
| 23:37.06 | hyperChipmunk | like the LowHealthFrame, but blue |
| 23:37.18 | hyperChipmunk | /script OutOfControlFrame:Show() |
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| 23:37.50 | wallen | thanks for fixing the debuff highlighting, ckknight! |
| 23:38.09 | kergoth | ah |
| 23:38.22 | kergoth | TNE_LowHealthWarning used to use that as a low mana indicator, iirc |
| 23:38.23 | ckknight | you're quite welcome |
| 23:38.28 | ckknight | kergoth: I use that |
| 23:38.28 | ckknight | it's nice |
| 23:38.35 | Bam__ | got a question about AceLibrary and versioning... |
| 23:38.37 | ckknight | just the health part, though, not the mana |
| 23:38.39 | ckknight | Bam__: shoot |
| 23:38.43 | Bam__ | local monkey = AceLibrary("Monkey-1.0") |
| 23:38.48 | kergoth | ckknight: i love the heartbeat sound thingy |
| 23:38.51 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:38.54 | ckknight | Bam__: right. |
| 23:38.59 | Bam__ | hang on lol |
| 23:39.22 | hyperChipmunk | i wrote a rage indicator using the LowHealthFrame =) |
| 23:39.30 | hyperChipmunk | SeeingRed on the svn |
| 23:39.39 | Bam__ | does storing this in a local not hold on to an old version when a new one is loaded? |
| 23:39.57 | Bam__ | or is there metatable magic that ensures a new one will be used? |
| 23:40.54 | ckknight | let's say you have Monkey-1.0 r1234 |
| 23:40.56 | Bam__ | been trying to read through AceLibrary.lua... but it's.. well... a bit tricky :P |
| 23:41.02 | ckknight | and you do local Monkey = AceLibrary("Monkey-1.0") |
| 23:41.03 | Bam__ | yea? |
| 23:41.12 | ckknight | and then some guy comes along and loads Monkey-1.0 r2345 |
| 23:41.30 | ckknight | what'll happen is that all the contents of the previous Monkey-1.0 will be replaced by the new one |
| 23:41.34 | ckknight | even the inner references |
| 23:41.44 | Bam__ | aha! |
| 23:41.45 | ckknight | so the previous Monkey.thing is reference equal to the newer Monkey.thing |
| 23:41.50 | Hotphoenix | anyone know of a mod that filters the blizzard minimap icons (eg having find herbs on but not wanting to see glowcap) or even recoloring them |
| 23:42.25 | Bam__ | hmm... but that does mean it's dangerous to do something like local someFunc = Monkey:someFunc() |
| 23:42.47 | Bam__ | that would hold on to an old function |
| 23:43.44 | Bam__ | not that I think I am doing that actually... just speculating :P |
| 23:44.17 | Bam__ | I meant local someFunc = Monkey.someFunc btw |
| 23:45.59 | Megalon | that would be some weird thing for handling things |
| 23:46.32 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: looks like dogtag smart is showing a red 0 when health is full, but hiding it when it's less than full |
| 23:46.58 | ckknight | I'll look into it |
| 23:47.08 | hyperChipmunk | rather than hiding when full, and a red deficit when not, which is what i think is the intended function? |
| 23:47.09 | ckknight | no, bam |
| 23:47.11 | Bam__ | you often see people doing stuff like: local Class = AceOO.Class |
| 23:47.16 | ckknight | Bam__: wait, yes |
| 23:47.28 | kergoth | a localized table is fine, a localized function isnt |
| 23:47.29 | ckknight | Bam__: if you have a reference to the function itself, that's bad |
| 23:47.34 | ckknight | right, kergoth's got it |
| 23:47.39 | Bam__ | yea |
| 23:47.52 | ckknight | you could have a functable, though |
| 23:47.58 | ckknight | (table that acts like a function) |
| 23:48.04 | Bam__ | just important to know... I think I get it now :) |
| 23:48.20 | hyperChipmunk | oh yea? what about a tableunction? |
| 23:48.39 | Bam__ | so it must be a very deep copying that occurs |
| 23:49.35 | ckknight | yes, Bam__ |
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| 23:49.41 | ckknight | with recursion checking and such |
| 23:49.49 | ckknight | Bam__: very sophisticated algorithm, all in all |
| 23:49.58 | Bam__ | that answers a question I asked long ago btw... I had a table with a protected metatable |
| 23:50.05 | Bam__ | I can see now why that won't work |
| 23:50.43 | ckknight | ah, yea, that'll mess up if you have __metatable |
| 23:53.56 | Bam__ | would it be safe to use AceLibrary.argCheck and AceLibrary.error outside of a library? |
| 23:54.04 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34480 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Malchezaar: cancel for safety |
| 23:54.12 | Bam__ | they are neat :P |
| 23:54.26 | ckknight | Bam__: I use them in the format: AceLibrary.argCheck(self, ...) |
| 23:54.34 | ckknight | don't hold a local argCheck, though |
| 23:54.46 | Bam__ | and self can be any table? |
| 23:55.03 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:55.07 | Bam__ | cool |
| 23:55.21 | ckknight | it should only be used in libraries or framework settings |
| 23:55.42 | Bam__ | not in an AceAddon instance? |
| 23:56.05 | Bam__ | like a module for example |
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| 23:56.34 | Bam__ | it's just the stripping of the stack that's nice really |
| 23:56.38 | ckknight | e.g. Cartographer's a framework |
| 23:56.44 | ckknight | PitBull's a framework |
| 23:56.51 | ckknight | cause other addons call methods on it |
| 23:56.54 | Bam__ | yea get what you mean |
| 23:56.59 | ckknight | i.e. not just internal |
| 23:57.33 | Morghus | 'Fizzle' |
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