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| 00:16.45 | CIA-23 | 03toadkiller * r34289 10AutoBar/ (11 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:16.45 | CIA-23 | AutoBar: |
| 00:16.45 | CIA-23 | -- Fixed a bug in Spell scanning code that incorrectly disabled spells when scanning with low mana. |
| 00:16.45 | CIA-23 | -- All weapon buffs now have a single category. |
| 00:16.45 | CIA-23 | -- All classes get a weapon buff slot. Dual wielding classes get an extra one. |
| 00:16.45 | CIA-23 | -- Rogue poisons are all in the 2 weapon buff slots. |
| 00:16.47 | CIA-23 | -- The weapon buff slots & category are arrange on use so the last used item becomes the default. |
| 00:18.01 | [FH]Birdemani | im soooo going nuts |
| 00:18.14 | [FH]Birdemani | something is shutting my defaul social window if i leave it open |
| 00:18.24 | Bam__ | could there be any security problems calling or hooking functions on GameTooltip? |
| 00:18.30 | JoshBorke | are you getting tells in the mean time? |
| 00:18.34 | [FH]Birdemani | no |
| 00:18.38 | JoshBorke | Bam__: probably not |
| 00:18.42 | [FH]Birdemani | im in a raid |
| 00:18.48 | [FH]Birdemani | but in IF out of combat |
| 00:18.59 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. interesting autobar changes |
| 00:19.02 | JoshBorke | it sounds like there is a mod doing who's poorly |
| 00:19.14 | Bam__ | Josh_Borke: doubt it too.. but never know for sure :P |
| 00:19.14 | [FH]Birdemani | and sometimes the social window is in default place, other times it moves to center of screen |
| 00:19.56 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: you a rogue? |
| 00:20.12 | PogoTribal | Hmm |
| 00:20.17 | PogoTribal | Ok so I have this guild, that's just me and my alts. |
| 00:20.24 | PogoTribal | But I want the current GM character to leave to join another guild. |
| 00:20.35 | PogoTribal | I don't see any way of promoting someone to GM if they're not online. |
| 00:20.47 | vhaarr | you need a third party |
| 00:20.52 | Bam__ | you need a second account or a helpful person |
| 00:20.55 | PogoTribal | Yeah I thought so. |
| 00:21.06 | Bam__ | a person you trust :P |
| 00:21.43 | PogoTribal | It's not that big of a deal if the person starts kicking all my alts out or something. They'd have to be a huge asshole. |
| 00:21.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: no, shaman |
| 00:22.23 | Bam__ | worse if they disband guild :O |
| 00:22.42 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: Kool. I am thinking of adding the shammy weapon buffs to the weapon buff slots as well... |
| 00:23.10 | PogoTribal | So how is the next patch gonna impact Ace? |
| 00:23.14 | PogoTribal | Are all my addons fucked? |
| 00:23.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: that'd be kinda neat. those are a pain to deal with though :\ |
| 00:23.23 | nymbia | PogoTribal: very. |
| 00:23.29 | JoshBorke | PogoTribal: yes, delete them all now |
| 00:23.43 | PogoTribal | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.45 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: Yea weapon buffing sucked on my shammy |
| 00:23.48 | NightHawkTheSane | PogoTribal: horribly fucked. switch to cosmos. |
| 00:23.49 | Bam__ | PogoTribal: expect the worst, hope the best :P |
| 00:24.34 | ckknight | PogoTribal: it's a sad time |
| 00:24.41 | Toadkiller | PogoTribal: I hope they fix the popup taint issue otherwise AutoBar is doa |
| 00:24.45 | PogoTribal | I'm expecting the worst. |
| 00:24.55 | ckknight | good plan. |
| 00:25.14 | ckknight | PogoTribal: remember how bad 2.0 was? |
| 00:25.18 | ckknight | well, this is 2.1 |
| 00:25.18 | vhaarr | blizzard basically made it impossible to get data like your current party members, etc |
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| 00:25.49 | Bam__ | ckknight: can never be that bad again..... can it? 9.9 |
| 00:25.50 | PogoTribal | Actually I don't know about 2.0 because I didn't use Ace until after that. |
| 00:26.01 | ckknight | why can't it be? |
| 00:26.06 | PogoTribal | I was sick of nothing updating very well or often, that's when I switched to Ace2 |
| 00:26.33 | Bam__ | well not quite as many changes overall, I'd think |
| 00:26.39 | [FH]Birdemani | yea, its when i get tells |
| 00:26.52 | Toadkiller | 2.0 was a massive change. 2.1 should be fairly painless with some mods not even needing a rewrite |
| 00:26.53 | ckknight | to put everyone's fears at rest, the 2.1 patch won't do _too_ much |
| 00:27.11 | ckknight | Cartographer_InstanceMaps will need to be fixed - it's completely fucked right now |
| 00:27.15 | ckknight | outside of that, everything seems okay |
| 00:27.31 | ckknight | alright, gonna go hit up Subway |
| 00:27.50 | Toadkiller | say hi to jared then |
| 00:27.51 | PogoTribal | If I have to run bare bones, at the very least I want Bartender 3 and X-Perl |
| 00:28.16 | Toadkiller | Bartender works iirc |
| 00:29.46 | NightHawkTheSane | last time i tried the ptr, pcuf was borked there. >< |
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| 00:35.12 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34290 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: Silk-Ravishing Amoeba. |
| 00:36.13 | Guillotine | could someone look at this quickly for me and tell me why its still giving an error that I can't call the functin because the frame isn't secure? http://guillotine.pastey.net/21042 |
| 00:36.30 | Guillotine | I put in all the checks to not change the frame in combat. I was under the impression a frame was "secure unless its not" |
| 00:36.46 | Guillotine | if you inherit the secure button template |
| 00:37.29 | CIA-23 | 03toadkiller * r34291 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: |
| 00:37.29 | CIA-23 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 00:37.29 | CIA-23 | - 22797:2000 Nightmare Seed |
| 00:41.05 | Bam__ | overwriting OnClick on a secure button won't work |
| 00:41.28 | Guillotine | dam. So how do the addons that do it create 'automatic buffers'? |
| 00:41.41 | Guillotine | I was under the impression it just changed the OnClick while out of combat |
| 00:41.55 | Bam__ | you need to set attributes |
| 00:42.07 | Gngsk | SRA ate my coconuts and touched me while I was sleeping. :( |
| 00:42.22 | Bam__ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview |
| 00:42.31 | Bam__ | slight outdated I think |
| 00:43.04 | Guillotine | ah, I see |
| 00:45.31 | Neebler | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1178150990462.jpg |
| 00:45.38 | Neebler | hardy har har |
| 00:46.22 | [FH]Birdemani | so, noticing that if i access the ORA fubar menu that my escape key doesnt work after that anymore. seems bigwigs may do that as well |
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| 00:46.35 | [FH]Birdemani | but if i reloadui it works again |
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| 00:48.20 | Guillotine | so if I set an OnClick it becomes unsecure? Or can I set code that doesn't need to be secure in OnClick? |
| 00:48.31 | Guillotine | e.g. I want to change a variable as well as run a macro |
| 00:48.47 | Gngsk | Neebler, took me a while to notice what was funny about that pic |
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| 00:49.18 | Gngsk | Guillotine, have you tried pre/post click? |
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| 00:49.26 | Bam__ | the secure template you inherit from already has an OnClick, you don't want to overwrite that in any way |
| 00:49.36 | PogoTribal | What's the mod that shows all your cooldowns in bar form? |
| 00:49.56 | PogoTribal | Cooldowncount |
| 00:49.56 | Guillotine | Gngsk: eh, no. Have a link about that? Havn't really done much with secure frames yet >< |
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| 00:50.50 | CIA-23 | 03evilelvis * r34292 10eePanels/core.lua: eePanels: updated code for setting a panel's parent |
| 00:50.50 | Guillotine | nm, think I figured it out |
| 00:50.58 | Gngsk | Guillotine, me either I just like to pretend I know what I'm talking about soemtimes. |
| 00:50.59 | Bam__ | Guillotine: they are just scripts like OnClick called PreClick and PostClick... but they wont help you here I think |
| 00:51.17 | Guillotine | ah |
| 00:51.18 | Guillotine | lol |
| 00:51.24 | Gngsk | but hey, at least you know about 'em now! |
| 00:51.37 | Bam__ | you need to set the attributes for the click action while out of combat |
| 00:51.46 | Guillotine | ya, I knew about them for normal frames. Thought they might be secure attributes as well though. |
| 00:52.10 | Guillotine | Bam__: yes, but I CAN override the OnClick? |
| 00:52.19 | JoshBorke | yes, but why would you want to? |
| 00:52.30 | Arrowmaster | you can set a preclick that changes the frames attributes every time you click it out of combat before the click gets processed |
| 00:52.47 | Bam__ | not without both destroying the secure buttons behaviour AND making the button insecure :P |
| 00:52.55 | Guillotine | JB: want to perform a macro action as well as changing a variable with one click |
| 00:53.07 | Guillotine | JB: so trying to figure out how to do that |
| 00:53.17 | Bam__ | read up on setting attributes as I said.. it's the only way |
| 00:53.17 | Arrowmaster | do that with pre/post click |
| 00:53.29 | JoshBorke | Guillotine: do it pre/post click |
| 00:53.33 | JoshBorke | like Arrowmaster said |
| 00:53.38 | Gngsk | I belive I said it first! |
| 00:53.45 | Bam__ | lol ok |
| 00:53.46 | Guillotine | you did :P you just had no idea what it meant |
| 00:53.48 | JoshBorke | indeed you di |
| 00:53.57 | Guillotine | alright, wasn't sure if pre/post click would unsecure the frame |
| 00:54.06 | JoshBorke | no, they are there so they don't |
| 00:54.07 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:54.25 | Toadkiller | Guillotine: If you truly need to hook a script then wait for 2.1 which has support for that |
| 00:54.43 | Guillotine | Toadkiller: I know, but trying to see if its possible now |
| 00:54.58 | Arrowmaster | i dont see how securehooking OnClick would be any different than postclick |
| 00:55.38 | Fin | spelling |
| 00:55.47 | Arrowmaster | and speed |
| 00:56.14 | Toadkiller | neither do i, but it is applicable to more scripts than just onCLick |
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| 00:56.34 | Bam__ | only advantage is that you can extend a button that already defines PreClick or PostClick I guess |
| 00:57.05 | Toadkiller | yes, you could adda a post preclick function |
| 00:57.10 | Arrowmaster | Guillotine: read up on secureframes, RunMacro isnt going to work for you i dont think |
| 00:57.22 | Guillotine | Arrowmaster: not using that |
| 00:57.30 | Guillotine | MWhisper.button:SetAttribute("macro1", macroid) |
| 00:57.32 | Arrowmaster | that pastey you linked is |
| 00:57.34 | Guillotine | ect |
| 00:57.37 | Guillotine | I know, I'm updating :) |
| 00:58.05 | Bam__ | set that while out of combat and it ought to work |
| 00:58.09 | Guillotine | hmm. According to this, the button doesn't have an OnClick. |
| 00:58.36 | Arrowmaster | setting onclick would override the normal behaviour i think |
| 00:58.43 | Bam__ | hmm could you paste the code again? |
| 00:58.46 | Guillotine | I know. Was going to hooksecurefunc it |
| 00:59.02 | Arrowmaster | cant securehook scripts yet |
| 00:59.12 | Guillotine | http://guillotine.pastey.net/21057 |
| 00:59.17 | Guillotine | ah, that would be the problem |
| 00:59.32 | Guillotine | alright, is PostClick a script or an attribute? |
| 00:59.38 | Arrowmaster | script |
| 01:00.44 | Bam__ | but why use that in this situation? |
| 01:00.47 | Guillotine | why not? What would be better? |
| 01:00.47 | Bam__ | you can set attributes from anywhere in your code |
| 01:00.52 | Guillotine | right |
| 01:00.52 | Bam__ | just not in combat |
| 01:01.02 | Guillotine | you CAN'T set attributes in combat |
| 01:01.12 | Bam__ | right :P |
| 01:02.56 | Arrowmaster | so after every click you would update the button to the next macro in the queue if not in combat |
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| 01:07.22 | Fin | sylvanaar: table |
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| 01:09.02 | break19 | fin: bar |
| 01:09.25 | Fin | break19: I was hoping for "tennis" (ping - pong?) but bars are always good |
| 01:09.42 | Fin | I wasn't *expecting* table, though |
| 01:09.48 | Fin | table never phones either |
| 01:09.59 | break19 | some people sit at the table, I prefer sitting at bars :) |
| 01:11.36 | break19 | easier on my knees to sit at a good barstool at my kitchen/breakfast bar, than to get into my chair in the dining room. heh |
| 01:14.53 | Fin | did anyone try that game I pasted yesterday? noone probably remembers or did, but I reckon it's worth checking out: http://www.k2xl.com/games/boomshine/ |
| 01:15.12 | Fin | break19: knees are important, you should look after them |
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| 01:23.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: neat game. music drives me batty though |
| 01:28.46 | CIA-23 | 03seerah * r34293 10ClearFont2_FontPack_4/core.lua: |
| 01:28.46 | CIA-23 | ClearFont2_FontPack_4: |
| 01:28.46 | CIA-23 | - fixed font path - my brain's still broken! :P |
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| 01:44.20 | xlvii | fin: that game is addictive. |
| 01:44.20 | xlvii | :P |
| 01:46.46 | NightHawkTheSane | it is. it would be more addictive if that music didnt drive me crazy |
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| 01:54.50 | xlvii | lol |
| 01:54.53 | xlvii | have you finished it yet? |
| 01:55.33 | NightHawkTheSane | best I got was 52/55 on level 12 before I stopped |
| 01:56.23 | xlvii | i finished with a total score of 250 |
| 01:56.23 | xlvii | >_> |
| 01:56.55 | NightHawkTheSane | i didnt pay too much attention to the score. that music really drove me crazy |
| 01:58.18 | ulic | are there ace functions or libraries for scanning through bag, bank, and equipment slots? |
| 02:00.57 | Funkeh` | onestorage ? |
| 02:02.06 | ulic | I'll have a look, just thinking about the best way to generate resists/healing/crit, whatever, sets for ClosetGnome. |
| 02:03.01 | art3mis | ~pastey |
| 02:03.06 | purl | i guess pastey is the place we like to have errors, diffs, and any large chunks of text sent. http://norganna.pastey.net Insert the text, press the 'Paste' button, and post the resulting URL in here. |
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| 02:22.59 | vhaarr | ulic: ClosetGnome and ClosetGnome_Banker has lots of code related to item searching |
| 02:26.35 | ulic | 10-4, don't know when I'll mess with it, even if I will, but maybe |
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| 02:41.25 | Fisker- | hi! |
| 02:48.24 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34294 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: Sexy Rabbis do not fear the Apocalypse. |
| 02:48.33 | Fisker- | fail |
| 02:48.48 | vhaarr | I can't fail, I invited the concept |
| 02:49.29 | Fisker- | ok "Rabbi" |
| 02:49.57 | vhaarr | do you know what a rabbi is? :P |
| 02:50.35 | Fisker- | oh |
| 02:50.40 | Fisker- | thought you meant to write rabbit |
| 02:50.40 | Fisker- | :( |
| 02:50.43 | Fisker- | fu |
| 02:50.44 | vhaarr | no :) |
| 02:50.46 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 02:51.39 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 02:53.03 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34295 10BanzaiLib/Banzai-1.1/Banzai-1.1.lua: .Banzai-1.1: Optimization. |
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| 02:54.28 | Fisker- | all who oppose me will be tickled |
| 02:55.54 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34296 10BanzaiLib/Banzai-1.1/Banzai-1.1.lua: .Banzai-1.1: Bugfix. |
| 02:57.42 | Fisker- | bah :( |
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| 02:58.58 | kergoth | is there a way to make mendy show the actual alchemy(or whatever) recipes a trade good is used in, on a char that doesnt have that prof? |
| 02:59.36 | vhaarr | kergoth: not now, sadly |
| 02:59.52 | vhaarr | I wanted to do that before moving it to trunk, but since someone ninjamoved it, no. |
| 02:59.56 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:00.14 | kergoth | thats bs, just merging it without talking to you first |
| 03:00.37 | vhaarr | I let him know how I felt about it |
| 03:01.06 | stavmar | If anyone knows what this might be it seems to be an endless loop, I am wondering if it might have something to do with the font I chose from Clearfont? http://ace.pastey.net/21106 |
| 03:01.12 | kergoth | ah, looks like tradeskillinfo can do it, has a "quick search" of its db for a trade good |
| 03:01.43 | stavmar | kergoth: TSI definitely does that |
| 03:01.49 | Roartindon | stavmar: That's an error you get if you create a font string and try and set text on it before setting up a font |
| 03:02.06 | stavmar | Roartindon: hmm |
| 03:02.11 | vhaarr | clearfont doesn't create font strings |
| 03:02.15 | vhaarr | it just modifies existing ones |
| 03:02.23 | stavmar | i see |
| 03:02.35 | CIA-23 | 03tekkub * r34297 10FuBar_CorkFu/Minipet.lua: FuBar_CorkFu - Minipets won't cork if you're moving |
| 03:03.30 | kergoth | stavmar: excellent.. theres some overlap with mendy, but i'll live :) |
| 03:03.55 | kergoth | hmm, whats a small addon to look up an itemlink by item id? to force it to query the server for it |
| 03:04.06 | kergoth | this item isnt in my client cache, but i'd like to link it anyway if possible |
| 03:04.11 | stavmar | kergoth: not too sure what mendy offers, should i try it? |
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| 03:05.20 | kergoth | it shows pt3 info in the tooltip, where it drops, what type of food it is, etc |
| 03:05.53 | stavmar | ooh mendeleev |
| 03:05.56 | stavmar | lol |
| 03:06.07 | vhaarr | kergoth: basically you just need to do GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:<id>") |
| 03:06.10 | vhaarr | afaik |
| 03:06.36 | kergoth | stavmar: :P |
| 03:06.37 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:07.25 | kergoth | damn, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32412 is yummy |
| 03:07.53 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: wow, that is nice. |
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| 03:10.22 | kergoth | not available till 2.1 of course, but still sexy |
| 03:10.23 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 03:21.54 | FISKER_Q | i has a spoon |
| 03:31.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Yay. Actually working on stuff in The Eye. |
| 03:35.43 | mjc | http://clientcopia.com/quotes.php?id=5303 |
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| 03:57.32 | Bam__ | anyone got experience with GameTooltip:SetAuctionItem()? |
| 03:58.21 | Bam__ | it seems to be called in a "loop" constantly while hovering over an auction item |
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| 04:00.40 | CIA-23 | 03joshborke * r34298 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua: |
| 04:00.40 | CIA-23 | PitBull_BarFader: |
| 04:00.40 | CIA-23 | - combine updates together. |
| 04:00.40 | CIA-23 | - maximum alpha for the fading bar is 0.7 |
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| 04:10.30 | ckknight | shoot, I had some great idea for PitBull today |
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| 04:10.33 | ckknight | I forget |
| 04:10.35 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34299 10Aloft/Modules/ (HealthData.lua IsGuildMemberData.lua RecentlyDamagedData.lua): |
| 04:10.35 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 04:10.35 | CIA-23 | - Removed AceLocale instances that weren't required |
| 04:15.48 | Prophh | is there a STEADYSHOT/Autoshot MOD for hunter? |
| 04:16.51 | CIA-23 | 03evonder * r34300 10FuBar_CheckFearWardFu/ (7 files): |
| 04:16.51 | CIA-23 | FuBar_CheckFearWardFu: Dwarf Priest Fear Ward Check. |
| 04:16.51 | CIA-23 | - Modified version of FuBar_CheckStoneFu by lilcure(Updated by Annihilation) |
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| 04:27.40 | CIA-23 | 03sole * r34301 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist: Updated toc. |
| 04:28.05 | CIA-23 | 03herio * r34302 10FuBar_CorkFu/ClassWarlock.lua: FuBar_CorkFu: fixed demon armor bug |
| 04:30.58 | Sole | nymbia: ping |
| 04:31.53 | Sole | purl: you suck |
| 04:32.04 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 04:32.13 | Sole | lol |
| 04:32.17 | Herio | purl: who is herio? |
| 04:32.21 | purl | Herio: I think you lost me on that one |
| 04:32.26 | Herio | hppf |
| 04:32.29 | Herio | good |
| 04:32.45 | Sole | is there a partyNmouseover unit? |
| 04:33.18 | JoshBorke | check? |
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| 04:33.41 | vhaarr | Sole: yeah, should work fine |
| 04:34.02 | Sole | thankd vhaarr |
| 04:34.46 | vhaarr | actually |
| 04:34.52 | vhaarr | Sole: forget it, I don't think it works |
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| 04:35.21 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont think that'd work. it'd have to actually check partyN's client to see what he's mousing over |
| 04:35.39 | vhaarr | yeah it actually only works with target |
| 04:36.56 | nymbia | Sole: pong |
| 04:36.59 | CIA-23 | 03evonder * r34303 10FuBar_CheckFearWardFu/: |
| 04:36.59 | CIA-23 | FuBar_CheckFearWardFu: |
| 04:37.00 | CIA-23 | - Set External libs |
| 04:42.56 | Sole | vhaarr: yeah I just confucted a test, doesnt work :( |
| 04:42.58 | Sole | nymbia: hai ho |
| 04:43.07 | Sole | Im back to coding gladiator |
| 04:43.29 | Sole | anything new and exciting with Tattle? |
| 04:44.43 | *** part/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@ekm-s-216-160.resnet.CSUChico.EDU) |
| 04:44.52 | nymbia | Sole: not really, nope |
| 04:44.59 | Sole | nymbia: okie |
| 04:45.00 | nymbia | Sole: oh, i had an error.. sec |
| 04:45.48 | CIA-23 | 03evonder * r34304 10FuBar_CheckFearWardFu/: |
| 04:45.48 | CIA-23 | FuBar_CheckFearWardFu: |
| 04:45.49 | CIA-23 | - Set External libs |
| 04:46.02 | nymbia | Sole: dammit, had bugsack saving off. |
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| 04:49.33 | ckknight | anyone look into Silverlight here? |
| 04:52.25 | Sole_ | not yet |
| 04:52.28 | Sole_ | but I will not |
| 04:52.30 | Sole_ | now* |
| 04:52.33 | NightHawkTheSane | what's silverlight? |
| 04:52.39 | ckknight | it's actually really cool |
| 04:52.49 | ckknight | it's basically Microsoft's answer to flash |
| 04:52.55 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. |
| 04:52.56 | ckknight | been looking into the DLR (Dynamic Language Runtime) and such |
| 04:53.24 | ckknight | Silverlight will basically allow you to code in Python/Ruby/Javascript/VB/etc. and run apps on the client's browser |
| 04:53.26 | Sole_ | so its actually pretty good? :P |
| 04:53.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Well I'm naturally skeptical of anything that's "Microsofts answer to <insert already widespread and near-standard technology here>", i'm vaguely curious |
| 04:53.36 | ckknight | from what I've seen |
| 04:54.03 | hyperChipmunk | sounds like ActiveX |
| 04:54.07 | Sole_ | ^ |
| 04:54.16 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: lol, yea, but not as gay |
| 04:54.20 | ckknight | pretty muh |
| 04:54.22 | ckknight | much* |
| 04:54.23 | Sole_ | haha |
| 04:54.25 | PHL-Chuck | hey guys, I'm having a problem with all my addons that use the cascading menus (config screens, jigsaw etc) the sliders that set values are doing wierd things, any ideas?? |
| 04:54.27 | hyperChipmunk | yeah i believe that when i see it |
| 04:54.33 | NightHawkTheSane | sounds like a fun new way to open security holes, honestly |
| 04:54.46 | PHL-Chuck | soon as I cursor over them it moves to another menu position |
| 04:54.53 | ckknight | actually from what I've been looking into, the security is pretty locked down |
| 04:55.01 | ckknight | but yes, I'd expect security holes as well |
| 04:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | and a passport account |
| 04:55.36 | hyperChipmunk | for great win |
| 04:55.43 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 04:56.14 | ckknight | I just saw a demo of a python console window in the browser editing stuff on the page |
| 04:57.09 | hyperChipmunk | did it demo how it pwnz ur b0x0r? |
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| 04:58.43 | vhaarr | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/shyner/churchsign.jpg |
| 04:59.03 | ckknight | lol, vhaarr |
| 04:59.06 | vhaarr | I bet they didn't see that one coming when they made the sign |
| 04:59.08 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 04:59.10 | Sole_ | lol |
| 04:59.10 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: heh |
| 04:59.21 | Sole_ | ckknight: where is the demo? |
| 04:59.46 | ckknight | http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=304924 |
| 04:59.53 | ckknight | it's near the end of that |
| 05:00.02 | ckknight | he talks about the Dynamic Language Runtime (which in itself is pimp) |
| 05:00.21 | ckknight | and then shows silverlight running with python and such |
| 05:00.48 | vhaarr | so it's basically windows scripting host from 1993 thrown into an activex applet, then |
| 05:01.25 | ckknight | vhaarr: kinda. All .NET, though |
| 05:02.08 | vhaarr | I am not amazed :P |
| 05:02.25 | ckknight | well, I think it's cool |
| 05:02.30 | ckknight | but then again, I came from the Boo camp |
| 05:02.50 | ckknight | (it's a language built on the CLR) |
| 05:02.51 | vhaarr | boo rocked when we used it a few years ago |
| 05:03.21 | vhaarr | wait, I'm mixing |
| 05:03.46 | ckknight | Boo's a pythonesque language for .NET/Mono |
| 05:03.51 | vhaarr | I was thinking about groovy |
| 05:03.57 | ckknight | similar concept. |
| 05:04.07 | vhaarr | yeah I know, same site, too, if I remember correctly |
| 05:04.12 | ckknight | yep. |
| 05:04.16 | ckknight | codehaus |
| 05:04.44 | vhaarr | I played with jython a few years ago, basically making that silverlight thing just for our application |
| 05:04.55 | vhaarr | to support inline python and javascript editing for backend |
| 05:05.05 | vhaarr | jython and rhino, respectively |
| 05:05.10 | ckknight | vhaarr: Jython's author, Jim Huginin, is also IronPython's author |
| 05:05.12 | vhaarr | that's when I stumbled on groovy |
| 05:05.15 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 05:06.49 | vhaarr | I made this framework as part of a contest at work, where several developers were involved, and when I won, our boss spent more time explaining to the others why they didn't win, than explaining why I did |
| 05:06.57 | vhaarr | that's when I realised my times at that firm was over |
| 05:08.46 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:09.03 | ckknight | what do you do now? |
| 05:09.17 | vhaarr | net admin and school |
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| 05:09.45 | ckknight | okay |
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| 05:18.02 | sylvanaar | lord-of-the BORE-ings |
| 05:18.24 | ckknight | anyone seen Lord of the G-String? |
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| 05:19.09 | sylvanaar | i head that the spider chick spun it out of silk made from dead hobbits |
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| 05:21.10 | sylvanaar | ok, next Might and Magic....will it suck too? |
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| 05:22.16 | sylvanaar | vhaarr sounds like a lame place to work - what industry |
| 05:22.27 | vhaarr | enterprise java stuff |
| 05:22.58 | sylvanaar | non-specific? |
| 05:23.08 | vhaarr | nah, portal software mostly |
| 05:24.13 | sylvanaar | ah cool. my industry is retail/point-of-sale |
| 05:25.30 | sylvanaar | if you dont like self-checkout, blame me and the firm i work for |
| 05:26.18 | vhaarr | haha |
| 05:26.27 | KarlThePagan | no item pause! |
| 05:26.30 | KarlThePagan | hahahaaha |
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| 05:26.59 | sylvanaar | i hate it, personally |
| 05:27.10 | vhaarr | why is that? |
| 05:27.17 | sylvanaar | self checkout |
| 05:27.33 | sylvanaar | i dont want to have to bag the stuff myself |
| 05:28.15 | ckknight | okay, I'm hacking PitBull_Spark to work differently for energy |
| 05:28.21 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 05:28.30 | hyperChipmunk | you just can't handle that |
| 05:28.30 | nymbia | howso? |
| 05:28.32 | ckknight | basically, if you're not in combat, not looking at an enemy, and have full energy, it won't show the spark |
| 05:28.37 | ckknight | that seem good? |
| 05:28.39 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh. some day's i'm a freaking idiot. |
| 05:28.42 | nymbia | ckknight: that sounds great :) |
| 05:28.51 | sylvanaar | and invariably, thre is an exception item whch requires the one attendant with the operator signon (who is mysteriously absent) |
| 05:30.34 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34305 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: PitBull_Spark - if you're in energy form, it runs a check to see if you're not in combat, not looking at an enemy, and have full energy, it won't show the spark |
| 05:30.35 | ckknight | nymbia: it was annoying being in an inn or just running to see the spark |
| 05:30.48 | nymbia | ckknight: yeah definitely |
| 05:30.50 | vhaarr | ckknight: just skimming through crayon, what's the deal with checking |if quality ~= quality then| ? |
| 05:30.58 | ckknight | not a number |
| 05:31.06 | ckknight | 0/0 basically |
| 05:31.09 | ckknight | it happens |
| 05:31.16 | ckknight | 0 units / 0 seconds |
| 05:32.07 | vhaarr | I just realised that after some play time here, crayon is actually #16 on the top 20 list of cpu time |
| 05:32.38 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:33.51 | vhaarr | still, it has only used 280ms, so it's not bad, it just surprised me |
| 05:35.09 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34306 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: PitBull_Spark - better check UNIT_FACTION to see if the target's still an enemy/friend. |
| 05:35.40 | vhaarr | the thing I considered was that maybe it's worthwhile to do some caching in crayon, I don't know |
| 05:35.49 | sylvanaar | what does cratyon do besides implement the decorator pattern to color fontstrings |
| 05:35.57 | vhaarr | most addons use the standard green -> red gradient |
| 05:36.02 | ckknight | gradients and such |
| 05:37.12 | vhaarr | bah, forget about it |
| 05:37.29 | vhaarr | dogtag has used 15 seconds of CPU time and crayon is on 280ms, get working on that instead |
| 05:37.55 | ckknight | DogTag's pretty efficient for all that it does |
| 05:38.02 | ckknight | not sure where to optimize it, is all |
| 05:38.20 | vhaarr | yeah, but I don't see why it should be using that much when agUF is at 1.7sec |
| 05:38.26 | hyperChipmunk | what does "no public versions" mean in WAU? my g/f is asking and i don't use it |
| 05:38.33 | sylvanaar | because it loads modules |
| 05:38.33 | vhaarr | granted, that implementation is not as flexible |
| 05:38.42 | sylvanaar | thats a guess |
| 05:38.46 | vhaarr | modules? |
| 05:38.50 | vhaarr | what does |
| 05:38.55 | vhaarr | agUF doesn't have any modules |
| 05:38.58 | sylvanaar | calls LoadAddon? |
| 05:39.08 | sylvanaar | not aguf |
| 05:39.09 | ckknight | vhaarr: hrm... well, when PitBull gives it very complex patterns, it's bound to take more time |
| 05:39.14 | vhaarr | ckknight: indeed |
| 05:39.24 | vhaarr | ckknight: it just seems these patterns are updated when they don't need to be |
| 05:39.28 | vhaarr | since it keeps eating while idling |
| 05:39.38 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:39.53 | ckknight | vhaarr: well, wacky units are updated while idling. |
| 05:39.55 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: what calls loadaddon? |
| 05:40.00 | vhaarr | ckknight: right |
| 05:40.07 | vhaarr | ckknight: raid units, are they wacky? |
| 05:40.12 | ckknight | no |
| 05:40.17 | ckknight | but targettarget is |
| 05:40.17 | vhaarr | well then I don't have any visible |
| 05:40.26 | vhaarr | just player + 3 raid frames |
| 05:40.30 | ckknight | and PitBull currently _doesn't_ clear units that are just hidden |
| 05:40.35 | ckknight | maybe it should, again |
| 05:40.37 | vhaarr | ah |
| 05:40.40 | vhaarr | that would explain it, then |
| 05:41.05 | sylvanaar | oh, i confused pitbull with dogtag i guess |
| 05:41.44 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34307 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - actually clear unit frames again. |
| 05:43.45 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: thought about having loottracker also count stuff that you have currently equipped? could use it to track what items in a set of gear you possess |
| 05:45.18 | kergoth | i'd never do that, too much of my hair is going away of its own accord |
| 05:45.19 | kergoth | :P |
| 05:46.53 | sylvanaar | hyperChipmunk no public versions means there is no copy of the mod it mentions on the SVN. Most likely its because its part of another mod, and does not exist separately |
| 05:47.03 | hyperChipmunk | ColaLight? |
| 05:47.43 | sylvanaar | or,,,you are using wau 1,6 or older |
| 05:48.54 | hyperChipmunk | she isn't |
| 05:49.06 | sylvanaar | then it is safe to ignore |
| 05:49.12 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 05:49.31 | sylvanaar | the case where it is not is !!!SAL |
| 05:49.41 | sylvanaar | those should have public versions |
| 05:49.55 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34308 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: sync split |
| 05:50.52 | sylvanaar | or any package eg Package_Cartographer which is a collection of addons which exist on the svn |
| 05:51.47 | hyperChipmunk | she says she tries checking ColaLight, downloading without externals, and it said '-Has no public versions- skipping' and didn't d/l |
| 05:52.51 | sylvanaar | check the zips |
| 05:53.29 | hyperChipmunk | she says some of the things in the !!!SAL skip because no public version too |
| 05:53.40 | sylvanaar | nice there is a new version of Acronis Disk Director |
| 05:53.45 | sylvanaar | hmm |
| 05:53.57 | sylvanaar | pastey an update transcript |
| 05:54.08 | hyperChipmunk | how does she do that? |
| 05:54.20 | vhaarr | ckknight: why does FuBar need that LoadAddOnWrapper stuff anyway? seems to be some ace 1.3 stuff |
| 05:55.00 | sylvanaar | cut and paste it from the text that scrolls by |
| 05:55.10 | vhaarr | perhaps the 1.3 compat code could be removed soon |
| 05:56.15 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/21155 |
| 05:56.58 | hyperChipmunk | she says, "I think some of the addons need a public version" |
| 05:57.00 | sylvanaar | line 2 |
| 05:57.03 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/files/ |
| 05:57.11 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 05:57.31 | sylvanaar | use the mirrors menu |
| 05:57.35 | hyperChipmunk | okay |
| 05:57.36 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34309 10Aloft/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:57.36 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 05:57.36 | CIA-23 | - Shifted ReportStatusChanges option into Extras as a separate module |
| 05:57.36 | CIA-23 | - Visibility: Fixed if just disabling hostile NPCs |
| 05:57.47 | sylvanaar | set to one of the valid mirrors |
| 05:57.57 | hyperChipmunk | ok, i'll tell her |
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| 05:58.25 | Kinkx | Anyone know why NRT was removed? |
| 05:58.33 | hyperChipmunk | Cairenn: >8D |
| 05:58.43 | Cairenn | uh oh |
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| 05:59.16 | Funkeh` | what was nrt |
| 05:59.18 | Gngsk | Kinkx, the commit message said 'requested' |
| 05:59.19 | hyperChipmunk | i want to talk to Cairenn|hockey |
| 05:59.20 | vhaarr | Kinkx: I removed it, but if you have a copy locally, it will continue to work |
| 05:59.24 | hyperChipmunk | is she still there? |
| 05:59.27 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/files/ is the same thing as http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 05:59.30 | hyperChipmunk | sylvanaar: she says there's only the one entry |
| 05:59.41 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 05:59.49 | Funkeh` | what was NRT?=p |
| 05:59.56 | vhaarr | a raid tracker I wrote |
| 06:00.01 | sylvanaar | the one entry is correct, but you must select it |
| 06:00.04 | Funkeh` | ah |
| 06:00.06 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: about what? |
| 06:00.16 | hyperChipmunk | about hockey |
| 06:00.23 | hyperChipmunk | duh |
| 06:00.26 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:00.32 | Kinkx | NRT is really nice, sad to see it removed :( |
| 06:00.32 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:00.33 | vhaarr | Kinkx: It still works fine, just use what you have. |
| 06:00.49 | vhaarr | Kinkx: I was not planning to add any features to it. |
| 06:00.52 | Jagobah | who remembers that simple mod that shows you who is holding the flag in WSG? |
| 06:01.03 | vhaarr | so whether or not it's on the SVN, people who have it can still use it |
| 06:01.04 | Gngsk | Jagobah, capping? |
| 06:01.06 | Kinkx | I understand |
| 06:01.23 | Jagobah | is that what it's called? |
| 06:01.30 | sylvanaar | yeah, i like SSPVP |
| 06:01.38 | Funkeh` | capping ftw |
| 06:01.39 | hyperChipmunk | it worked much better, but still no cololight =x |
| 06:01.55 | Jagobah | it's not on curse :( |
| 06:02.04 | Funkeh` | its on wowi afaik |
| 06:02.06 | theoddone33 | http://www.wowace.com/files/Capping/Capping-r34153.1.zip |
| 06:02.21 | Jagobah | ok :o |
| 06:02.27 | Jagobah | thanks |
| 06:02.55 | theoddone33 | fwiw the fubar honor or bg mod has timers builtin |
| 06:03.03 | theoddone33 | I haven't tried capping, though |
| 06:03.04 | hyperChipmunk | batfu pwns joo |
| 06:03.22 | Funkeh` | im off |
| 06:03.24 | Funkeh` | later all |
| 06:03.39 | theoddone33 | yeah battlegroundfu is good |
| 06:04.25 | theoddone33 | which gives me an idea... leveling in AV! |
| 06:05.17 | sylvanaar | also, wau doesnt support the XXXXX.NN version numbers, just XXXXX.N |
| 06:05.53 | hyperChipmunk | i don't know what any of that all is |
| 06:05.57 | hyperChipmunk | i use svn for everything |
| 06:06.09 | hyperChipmunk | no difference after checking the mirror btw |
| 06:06.10 | Funkeh` | the way it should be hyperChipmunk |
| 06:06.27 | sylvanaar | there is a difference |
| 06:06.43 | sylvanaar | the mirror redirects dont always work |
| 06:06.50 | Funkeh` | so wau doesn't download mods with .nn ? |
| 06:07.26 | sylvanaar | Wau uses a single decimal number for the version so 1.1 = 1.10 = 1.100 = 1.0000 |
| 06:07.40 | hyperChipmunk | for a 'common joe' program, this is pretty lame |
| 06:07.44 | sylvanaar | that last one is 1.1000 |
| 06:07.45 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.49 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 06:07.56 | Funkeh` | no wodner we had problems whe the ace libraries were updated |
| 06:08.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm so glad i dont use wau some days. |
| 06:08.02 | Funkeh` | wonder* |
| 06:08.17 | sylvanaar | Frankly its not WAU's fault |
| 06:08.26 | sylvanaar | 1.7 was 2 months in development |
| 06:08.40 | hyperChipmunk | it's not my fault; but I'm the one my g/f is h9ing on |
| 06:09.11 | Funkeh` | is that a typo or wtf? |
| 06:09.15 | hyperChipmunk | ~h9 |
| 06:09.25 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, h9 is like h8, but one bigger! |
| 06:09.26 | sylvanaar | and 4am on the release date Kaelten has another version which he has chaged, along with server changes which break wau completely |
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| 06:09.43 | Funkeh` | christ |
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| 06:10.06 | Kinkx | I h10 h9 so much! |
| 06:10.43 | sylvanaar | they can pad the versions at the server to be .001, .002, and then it will work |
| 06:10.45 | hyperChipmunk | now she's giving me the "i'm just stupid" spiel |
| 06:11.36 | hyperChipmunk | seeing as she's going for an EE Ph.D., this generally means, "you're stupid" |
| 06:11.43 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: thats a crude hack, though. its not hard to compare the two values separately instead of as a single decimal |
| 06:11.44 | sylvanaar | look at the sorting of the files on files.wowace.com |
| 06:11.50 | Kinkx | I noticed WAU will download the changelog even if you don't click the "View Changelog" popup, just need to hover your mouse over it and it downloads it :o |
| 06:12.13 | Kinkx | It's like it's reading your mind |
| 06:13.24 | sylvanaar | 1.1 and 1.10 is unclear in any context |
| 06:13.37 | NightHawkTheSane | not really. |
| 06:13.41 | hyperChipmunk | not in software versioning |
| 06:13.47 | hyperChipmunk | xx.yy.zz |
| 06:13.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 06:13.58 | hyperChipmunk | that's how it go, yo |
| 06:14.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ($major, $minor) = split('. |
| 06:14.37 | sylvanaar | you spend your time doing that |
| 06:14.39 | NightHawkTheSane | ($major, $minor) = split('.', $version); |
| 06:15.01 | sylvanaar | it was working fine, then they added that version suffix and broke it |
| 06:15.56 | sylvanaar | still not clear what purpose it servers *now*, in theory it may help with optimizations, but what does it do for them now |
| 06:16.00 | kergoth | 1.10 > 1.1 in nearly every existing software project. interpreting it otherwise was just weak design |
| 06:16.27 | sylvanaar | actually, the weak design is the use of it |
| 06:16.39 | NightHawkTheSane | the minor version numbers indicate that libraries (read: svn externals) included in the addon have updated, but the actual addon has not. It's a clear and consistent meaning. |
| 06:18.02 | sylvanaar | clear and consistant 11111.01, ambiguous 11111.1 and 11111.10 |
| 06:18.08 | sylvanaar | sort them |
| 06:18.18 | hyperChipmunk | they're all clear |
| 06:18.26 | hyperChipmunk | except the first is redundant |
| 06:18.28 | NightHawkTheSane | as has been said twice already, not in software versioning. |
| 06:18.32 | hyperChipmunk | it's the same as 1111.1 |
| 06:18.34 | kergoth | 01 == 1 and 10 > 1, not that difficult |
| 06:18.53 | kergoth | in no way ambiguous |
| 06:18.55 | hyperChipmunk | the first one and second mean the same |
| 06:19.02 | hyperChipmunk | the third one is 9 versions after |
| 06:19.08 | sylvanaar | except one can be sorted with a text sort |
| 06:19.18 | sylvanaar | and one requires special code |
| 06:19.20 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but nobody cares about that |
| 06:19.23 | hyperChipmunk | they're not decimals |
| 06:19.43 | hyperChipmunk | you don't plan software projects to land on the next version after 9 decimal updates |
| 06:19.43 | sylvanaar | they arent because of failure to pad |
| 06:19.56 | hyperChipmunk | or 99 |
| 06:19.57 | hyperChipmunk | or 999 |
| 06:20.02 | |Pixel| | you're mixing up decimal and versionning |
| 06:20.03 | kergoth | i'm as much a fan of laziness as the next guy, but in this case how software versioning works obviously wasnt even considered |
| 06:20.17 | |Pixel| | in normal decimal couting, 1.01 < 1.1 indeed |
| 06:20.26 | |Pixel| | in versionning counting, 1.01 == 1.1 |
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| 06:20.39 | hyperChipmunk | you need another point-release after 0.9, then you make a 0.10 |
| 06:20.44 | Fisker- | sup hyperChipmunk |
| 06:20.45 | Fisker- | i liek you |
| 06:20.46 | hyperChipmunk | you don't call it 1.0 just because |
| 06:20.53 | hyperChipmunk | so it sorts with text |
| 06:21.00 | Fisker- | or 0.9.x |
| 06:21.01 | Fisker- | omg |
| 06:21.10 | sylvanaar | kergoth it wasnt even freaking relayed to me |
| 06:21.11 | hyperChipmunk | 0.9.x means something different |
| 06:21.25 | sylvanaar | hyperChipmunk and yes you can, if fact many companies do |
| 06:21.27 | Fisker- | that depends |
| 06:21.30 | hyperChipmunk | 0.9.x generally means a bugfix on 0.9 without new functionality |
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| 06:21.51 | Fisker- | yeah but you decide yourself what it means :P |
| 06:21.51 | sylvanaar | IBM 00.00.00.00 |
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| 06:23.06 | sylvanaar | Yeah, so what were the factors that went into that decision? right>? |
| 06:23.34 | hyperChipmunk | we clearly don't start out with quadruple padded versions |
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| 06:23.54 | hyperChipmunk | since we release 1.2, not 00.00.01.02 |
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| 06:24.30 | sylvanaar | right, but this was a suffix to the SVN version |
| 06:24.36 | hyperChipmunk | like any normal software project |
| 06:24.52 | hyperChipmunk | not some beuracratic versioning-by-committee system |
| 06:25.27 | sylvanaar | ie. they just made shit up |
| 06:26.08 | hyperChipmunk | when i'm writing an addon, i don't release 1.0 just because i've released 0.1 to 0.9 |
| 06:26.45 | sylvanaar | all i am saying, is if they add 0 pad NOW, there will be no issues |
| 06:26.53 | hyperChipmunk | a project might need 23 incremental versions before i think it's ready to be released as a version 1.0 |
| 06:27.06 | hyperChipmunk | 1.0 means something; 2.3 doesn't |
| 06:27.16 | sylvanaar | we are talking about SVN versions |
| 06:27.21 | sylvanaar | there isnt 2.3 |
| 06:27.32 | hyperChipmunk | svn is flat integers |
| 06:27.33 | sylvanaar | its 33333 |
| 06:27.45 | sylvanaar | they added to that |
| 06:27.56 | hyperChipmunk | so you have 0.12.33333 |
| 06:28.01 | sylvanaar | bbi |
| 06:28.04 | sylvanaar | no |
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| 06:28.11 | sylvanaar | 33333.1 |
| 06:28.29 | hyperChipmunk | either way, they're separate fields |
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| 06:28.39 | hyperChipmunk | it's not a decimal, it's a field separator |
| 06:28.48 | sylvanaar | either way you can pad with zeros |
| 06:28.49 | hyperChipmunk | it's just by custom that it's a . |
| 06:28.58 | NightHawkTheSane | "can |
| 06:29.04 | hyperChipmunk | it could be 0:12:33333 |
| 06:29.23 | sylvanaar | do you think i just crawled out from under a rock |
| 06:29.27 | NightHawkTheSane | "can" and "should" are two different things. It'd be a -bad- idea to pad minor version numbers. |
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| 06:29.36 | hyperChipmunk | it would certainly appear that way |
| 06:30.07 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane why is it a bad idea to zero pad minor versions |
| 06:30.19 | hyperChipmunk | since you're using naive sort to order fields |
| 06:30.30 | sylvanaar | http://files.wowace.com/ColaLight/ |
| 06:30.32 | NightHawkTheSane | because if minor version numbers become greater than the size of the padding, you're entire schema breaks. |
| 06:31.00 | NightHawkTheSane | why risk that when a minor amount of intelligent programming client-side can handle non-padded version nmbers |
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| 06:31.06 | NightHawkTheSane | s/nmbers/numbers/ |
| 06:31.13 | sylvanaar | they broke the sorting on the web page too |
| 06:31.21 | NightHawkTheSane | who cares? |
| 06:31.24 | hyperChipmunk | ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6 |
| 06:31.30 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane because there are more than one client |
| 06:31.55 | hyperChipmunk | everyone who ever has looked at a web listing of software versions knows that scrolling to the bottom doesn't mean latest one |
| 06:32.16 | hyperChipmunk | that's why there's a file called LATEST-IS-X |
| 06:32.25 | hyperChipmunk | normally |
| 06:32.35 | hyperChipmunk | yea, see |
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| 06:32.43 | sylvanaar | you got 20 man hours?> |
| 06:32.43 | hyperChipmunk | ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/LATEST-IS-2.6.21.1 |
| 06:32.46 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: or, in the case of files.wowace.net, an Addon.zip file which is the latest, and automatically gets sorted to the bottom :P |
| 06:32.47 | sylvanaar | you fix it |
| 06:33.05 | hyperChipmunk | http://files.wowace.com/ColaLight/latest.txt |
| 06:33.22 | sylvanaar | wtf, i know whats in it |
| 06:35.44 | sylvanaar | it could be fixed easily - server-side, client side requires a long development cycle and alot of testing |
| 06:36.36 | Arrowmaster | server side requires making a quick fix, hoping it works correctly, and changing it back before anybody notices if it doesnt |
| 06:37.01 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster client side requires distribution |
| 06:37.12 | hyperChipmunk | server side means making everyone wonder wtf happened to normal-looking version numbers |
| 06:37.12 | Arrowmaster | that was a joke |
| 06:37.47 | sylvanaar | hyperChipmunk yeah, like me at 4 fucking am on the WAU 1.7 release date |
| 06:37.47 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: how is it a "long development cycle" to simply split and check two numbers instead of one. Unless you're dealing with some kind of nasty spagetti code, it should be a fairly straightforward change. |
| 06:38.22 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane go do it yourself, including a mandatory beta cycle |
| 06:38.35 | sylvanaar | thats 20 hours right there |
| 06:38.38 | hyperChipmunk | call it WAU 1.10 |
| 06:38.47 | sylvanaar | no way |
| 06:38.58 | sylvanaar | wau 1~# |
| 06:39.15 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: I already did with my own update script. Took 30 minutes of work and about an hour of working out a few kinks. It's worked perfectly since then. :P |
| 06:39.30 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane thats cause its YOUR SCRIPT |
| 06:39.33 | Arrowmaster | then theres the issue of naming, since were on 1.7 final you either have to bump the major revision for a minor change which doesnt seem right or come up with something like 1.7 final b |
| 06:39.44 | hyperChipmunk | remember kids: always awk before you sort |
| 06:39.56 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: lol |
| 06:40.47 | sylvanaar | ugh |
| 06:40.52 | sylvanaar | 1.71 |
| 06:41.22 | sylvanaar | or maybe 1.17 |
| 06:42.43 | hyperChipmunk | 1.7.1 |
| 06:43.27 | hyperChipmunk | anyone who calls their project "final" deserves to be shot in the face |
| 06:43.48 | vhaarr | I interpreted "1.7 final" as "the final 1.7 release" |
| 06:43.55 | sylvanaar | everyone who thinks they can do it better, go do it, spend your time on it, then i'll come and tell you all the things you did wrong |
| 06:44.27 | Elkano | hC, I have some addons considered final... but they are 1-line ;) (and more bugfix than addon) |
| 06:44.45 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: this is how open source works -- if noone commented on how stupid your code is, there would be no point to it at all |
| 06:44.50 | hyperChipmunk | i interpreted "1.7 final" as "the 1.7 release by the same guy who releases those warcraft 3 maps" |
| 06:44.56 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: you should be flattered that people even spend time discussing it with you |
| 06:45.00 | sylvanaar | vhaarr thats all they fucking do |
| 06:45.21 | hyperChipmunk | ...in which case, the obvious solution is to releas 1.7 final GOLD |
| 06:45.43 | Arrowmaster | then 1.7 final gold pro |
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| 06:46.05 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: if I actually used wau, and cared at all about it, I'd actually probably help make it suck less. But I don't. *shrug* |
| 06:46.27 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.epicwar.com/maps/200/ |
| 06:47.18 | dotted | only thing that suck about WAU (or rather the wowace site in generel) is that you can only download betas |
| 06:47.18 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, so what's wrong now? |
| 06:47.30 | hyperChipmunk | oh oh, here we go: http://www.epicwar.com/maps/6164/ |
| 06:47.45 | sylvanaar | i didnt even write it, i just enhanced the damn thing |
| 06:48.16 | hyperChipmunk | ah, even better: http://www.epicwar.com/maps/17632/ |
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| 06:48.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: i can only assume you mean to be pointing out the absurd versioning? :P |
| 06:49.17 | hyperChipmunk | there's a V3.39 Gold Final v.03 too |
| 06:49.21 | hyperChipmunk | and 02 and 01 |
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| 06:49.29 | PHL-Chuck | ugg this problem is anoying.. is anyone having problems with the cascading menus? |
| 06:49.33 | vhaarr | got to love the CPU time numbers when bigwigs uses 6 milliseconds to load with all the tbc modules |
| 06:49.52 | PHL-Chuck | a friend and me have the same problem |
| 06:50.22 | nymbia | vhaarr: pft that's too high. i'm switching to lvbm. |
| 06:50.26 | vhaarr | nymbia: lol |
| 06:50.33 | sylvanaar | vhaarr the cpu numbers are still wrong, stuff gets lumped into 2-3 addons |
| 06:50.39 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: I know |
| 06:51.03 | vhaarr | nymbia: actually, with only tbc content, bw is 651 kib, doesn't lvbms API alone use 600kib? |
| 06:51.18 | vhaarr | oh well |
| 06:51.36 | sylvanaar | Prat's autolod module uses 80% of Ace's cpu time give or take |
| 06:51.48 | sylvanaar | it has no code in it |
| 06:52.09 | sylvanaar | just calls LoadAddOn |
| 06:52.47 | sylvanaar | interestingly, it only happens sometimes |
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| 06:54.20 | nymbia | vhaarr: probably at least that much, those numbers were warmup stuff |
| 06:54.27 | vhaarr | nymbia: right |
| 06:55.22 | vhaarr | I can't wait for all the whine posts various places when people start seeing KTM/DMMs usage |
| 06:55.35 | vhaarr | need to finish violation :P |
| 06:55.50 | dotted | just fork recap :D |
| 06:56.01 | sylvanaar | i havent looked at KTM/DMM what is its useage like? |
| 06:56.08 | nymbia | sylvanaar: huge |
| 06:56.26 | sylvanaar | because it is accumulating data? |
| 06:56.29 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: doesn't really matter what their usage is like, just looking at the code will freak you out |
| 06:56.40 | nymbia | sylvanaar: naw, idling |
| 06:56.49 | vhaarr | I think DMM uses like 2000 globals |
| 06:56.53 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 06:57.11 | Diao | what's DMM ;o |
| 06:57.18 | vhaarr | damagemeters |
| 06:57.23 | Diao | oh |
| 06:57.27 | sylvanaar | SWS2 is well written, im interested to see how it fares |
| 06:57.51 | Dynom | same here |
| 06:58.06 | ZealotOnAStick | SWS2 is reasonably well written, but it still has huge memory churn, and with all the string processing and updates it does, I'd still expect a fair amount of CPU load. |
| 06:58.26 | art3mis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101080745&sid=1 |
| 06:58.43 | nymbia | doesn't it keep time data for each event? |
| 06:58.59 | nymbia | my guildies that use it get huge memory numbers |
| 06:59.18 | sylvanaar | of course - it is accumulating data, nymbia yeah, it does, but the data it keeps is compressed |
| 06:59.22 | art3mis | sws? |
| 06:59.29 | art3mis | the stats thing? |
| 07:00.17 | sylvanaar | i have a complete disection of the teh SV format somewhere |
| 07:00.59 | ZealotOnAStick | I vastly prefer SWS2 over DM . . . I just wish SWS2 had a "dummy setup mode" or the ability to send presets to other users or something. |
| 07:01.02 | Diao | yeah sw stats |
| 07:01.13 | Diao | preset what o_O |
| 07:01.17 | nymbia | well |
| 07:01.17 | ZealotOnAStick | A bunch of people in my guild still use DM because SWS2 actually requires them to configure things. |
| 07:01.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: thinking is too hard for a lot of people. |
| 07:01.45 | sylvanaar | ZealotOnAStick i made that in my fubar plugin |
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| 07:02.01 | nymbia | i dont need all the detail for who died how many times or whose 14th nuke 3 hours ago got 25% resisted |
| 07:02.17 | sylvanaar | ZealotOnAStick and NOBODY used it |
| 07:03.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Our hunter class leader is a good example. He was pushing 3rd-5th on damage in an SSC trash clear up to Morogrim one night with auto-assist and auto-follow on the MA, and a castsequence macro mapped to one mouse key he was just clicking repeatedly while watching TV. |
| 07:03.03 | sylvanaar | you could query everyone in your raid for their panel configs, and copy thiers to your profile |
| 07:03.28 | Diao | lol |
| 07:03.32 | ZealotOnAStick | sylvanaar: that's inverse of what would be useful for the "I just want it to work" people. |
| 07:03.49 | sylvanaar | you just send them a macro |
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| 07:04.09 | Antiarc | What's the recommended way to let a user set a keybinding through your application these days? |
| 07:04.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. What would that macro need to consist of? |
| 07:04.37 | sylvanaar | the command for the fubar plugin |
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| 07:04.55 | sylvanaar | do use SWStats2Fu? |
| 07:05.04 | vhaarr | Antiarc: well, either just use good old bindings.xml, or you can use the validate=keybinding stuff in aceoptions |
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| 07:05.14 | ZealotOnAStick | I've considered making a castsequence macro for my lock now that I'm heavy affliction . . . but the numbers don't quite work right for timing . . . |
| 07:05.21 | ZealotOnAStick | yes, but I don't really use it for much. |
| 07:05.28 | Antiarc | vhaarr: Aha, that's what I want. These are keybindings for dynamic frames, so bindings.xml doesn't work for me |
| 07:05.45 | vhaarr | Antiarc: type="text", validate="keybinding" |
| 07:05.56 | vhaarr | Antiarc: look at closetgnome for example code, perhaps |
| 07:06.00 | Antiarc | Thank you! |
| 07:06.03 | ZealotOnAStick | It's there, and it runs, and lights up the dot and shows stuff on the bar, but I don't really -use- it for much. |
| 07:06.11 | sylvanaar | well, it has the profile sharing code in it, but its fallen into disrepair because i dont feel like testing it while dual-bozing |
| 07:07.52 | PHL-Chuck | I'm having a strange problem .. any addon that uses the value sliders in the cascading menus is messing up, it'll work once on a UIreload, but then it jumps to a different options whenever I touch the value slider or the input box |
| 07:07.53 | PHL-Chuck | really dont know what to do |
| 07:07.53 | sylvanaar | it lets you set the subject of variable reports based on the current target, and has independant per/sec calculations, thats about it now |
| 07:08.32 | sylvanaar | PHL-Chuck yeah, i noticed a problem too |
| 07:08.33 | PHL-Chuck | example is just archud config, scale of the hud.. can only set it once, and do it again without a reloadui |
| 07:08.38 | PHL-Chuck | phew |
| 07:08.44 | PHL-Chuck | me and a friend have same issue |
| 07:08.57 | PHL-Chuck | cant use jigsaw :-( |
| 07:09.05 | PHL-Chuck | cause of the way you set the amounts |
| 07:09.41 | PHL-Chuck | I was about to blow out the WTF dir.. I really dont wanna have to do that |
| 07:10.08 | sylvanaar | there is SWStats_Profiles now too, idk what thats for |
| 07:10.31 | Diao | preprogrammed profiels? |
| 07:10.55 | sylvanaar | yeah one would figure something like that |
| 07:12.31 | PHL-Chuck | wow alot of stuff is messing up now.. MCP lets me set it once then it instantly closes the window the second time I try to use it |
| 07:13.09 | sylvanaar | yeah, it lets you save your settings to a SV's file. I assume you can then pass the file around |
| 07:13.33 | PHL-Chuck | < shoots self for not backing up |
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| 07:26.51 | dotted | hi FISKER_NUB |
| 07:29.13 | Kinkx | Anyone want a Joost invite? :) |
| 07:29.59 | Elkano | wth is Joost? |
| 07:30.19 | evl | ckknight: I've been having some problems when running WoW for a very long time yesterday, I get these aura icon sized half transparent boxes where auras used to be and sometimes a bit below |
| 07:30.37 | Kinkx | The guys that made Kazaa and Skype are making a new internet TV thing called Joost, it's still beta though |
| 07:30.48 | ckknight | Kinkx: is it worthwhile? |
| 07:31.25 | Elkano | what programs are shown? in will it be free or paytv? |
| 07:31.33 | evl | I have invites for Joost |
| 07:31.39 | Kinkx | Meh.. I dunno, I just got an invite.. not that many channels, and it's not really TV, it's basically, lots of stuff you play on demand, like music videos, etc. |
| 07:31.39 | evl | if you want |
| 07:32.01 | Hjalte | So, it's like youtube with less stuff? :P |
| 07:32.02 | Kinkx | It's free |
| 07:32.22 | Elkano | Hjalte, exactly what I just thought ^^ |
| 07:32.47 | Kinkx | I guess, but it's high quality tho ;P |
| 07:33.04 | Elkano | would have been fun if that GoogleTV hoax had been real :/ |
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| 07:33.34 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 07:33.35 | CIA-23 | - Split options off into their own files. They can be made LoD by shifting the entire Options directory to an addon called AloftOptions |
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| 07:34.18 | theoddone33 | I wasn't impressed by the list of channels for joost |
| 07:34.23 | evl | Well |
| 07:34.27 | theoddone33 | but I'd take an invite just to screw with it :P |
| 07:34.35 | evl | Joost is in beta, it's hard getting content for something that's beta |
| 07:34.46 | theoddone33 | sure |
| 07:34.49 | evl | atleast when your aim is getting big companies to deliver it to you |
| 07:35.05 | Silviu- | Kinkx i want an invite :) |
| 07:35.05 | evl | But we can all agree it's probably going to blow up and get huge at some point |
| 07:35.39 | Kinkx | They've made some kind of deal with Sony I believe |
| 07:35.46 | Kinkx | so might be some nice content there in the end |
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| 07:39.37 | ZealotOnAStick | evl: I' |
| 07:39.40 | ZealotOnAStick | bah |
| 07:39.56 | ZealotOnAStick | evl: I'd take an invite. |
| 07:40.12 | Gngsk | invites for all! |
| 07:41.36 | Kinkx | If you want a Joost invite you msg me your e-mail address, and a name, the name can be anything, just need a First and Last name to be able to send the invite |
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| 07:50.51 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34316 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 07:50.51 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura: |
| 07:50.51 | CIA-23 | - Add a little simple debuff sorter (for now..) Disabled by default 'til we know it works, enable it in the menu. |
| 07:51.18 | evl | I'm out of joost invites :( |
| 07:52.19 | evl | ckknight: Anyway, I'll try to get some screenshots of the mysterious black boxes tonight when I raid, I had like 6-7 of them yesterday and I suspect it's dead aura backgrounds or something. |
| 07:52.58 | Elkano | ~seen jerry |
| 07:53.22 | purl | jerry <n=jerry@p508BE3C3.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 107d 5h 33m 48s ago, saying: 'abrotman: please part.'. |
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| 07:55.51 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34317 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua AloftOptionsLod.sh): |
| 07:55.51 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 07:55.51 | CIA-23 | - Added unix script for LoD |
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| 07:56.57 | manub | hello there, I'm getting lots of "no public version"... is there something I should change in the WAU? |
| 07:57.34 | Silviu- | vhaarr i think u can let in bigwingslod.bat to delete the MC/Aq/Bwl folders for some days :) so ppl won`t have them anymore :) |
| 07:57.35 | Stephmw | mornin' |
| 07:58.13 | manub | and I'm getting lots of error with incubator :( |
| 07:58.23 | Kinkx | manub - nope, all "Packages" will get unpacked and will be displayed as "No public version", but thats suppose to happend |
| 07:59.12 | nymbia | upgrade from 1.6 |
| 07:59.16 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34318 10Aloft/AloftOptionsLod.sh: Aloft: Another try at committing this LoD script..... last try ended up messing newlines |
| 07:59.34 | manub | nymbia, got 1.7 :P |
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| 08:00.22 | manub | however, someone has these troubles with incubator? got an error with some "surface" thing |
| 08:01.09 | Silviu- | ckknight [2007/05/03 11:01:31-118-x1]: PitBull-r34316\Spark\Spark.lua:244: attempt to call method 'UNIT_ENERGY' (a nil value) |
| 08:01.09 | Silviu- | <in C code>: ? |
| 08:01.09 | Silviu- | AceEvent-2.0-33858 (Ace2):431: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:407> |
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| 08:02.55 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34319 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
| 08:02.56 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Spark: |
| 08:02.56 | CIA-23 | - Bugfix |
| 08:03.18 | Silviu- | ty nymbia |
| 08:03.42 | sylvanaar | I think bigwigs might be just fine with Bigwigs_PreTBC |
| 08:04.12 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34320 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua AloftOptionsLod.sh): |
| 08:04.12 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 08:04.12 | CIA-23 | - Run a garbage collection cycle after loading options |
| 08:04.15 | PHL-Chuck | Well, this cascading menu thing is pretty bad... I deleted WTF, all my addons.. installed Fubar and Jigsaw and it still messes up |
| 08:04.28 | sylvanaar | how are you implementing LoD Roartindon? |
| 08:04.38 | PHL-Chuck | can't believe more people dont have the problem |
| 08:04.43 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: I scan addons for a X-Aloft-Options metadata |
| 08:04.53 | sylvanaar | o |
| 08:05.07 | Roartindon | If there are any, then the main module adds a "Load Options" menu item for AceConsole/Dewdrop.. |
| 08:05.21 | Roartindon | Waterfall automatically will load the options |
| 08:05.27 | sylvanaar | Roartindon im not sure of your needs, but have you looked at the method i use in Prat for LoD |
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| 08:05.51 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: I should have a look |
| 08:05.59 | Roartindon | Mainly, Aloft has a ton of options, which genereally, once set up, don't change |
| 08:06.07 | Roartindon | And the majority of code that was in aloft was options handling |
| 08:06.18 | sylvanaar | same with prat |
| 08:06.21 | Roartindon | On PTR, I clocked in ~900kb of memory.. if I remove all the options, it halves |
| 08:06.54 | sylvanaar | the method i use lets you remove any/all modules at runtime |
| 08:07.03 | Roartindon | hmm interesting |
| 08:07.12 | Roartindon | time to look :) |
| 08:07.19 | sylvanaar | its pseudo-lod, but the memory savings are still there |
| 08:07.47 | xlvii | is deadlyboss mods similar to BigWigs? |
| 08:07.48 | nymbia | well, having a disabled module not load is a definite advantage |
| 08:08.07 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5782.0 |
| 08:08.27 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: thanksm having a read |
| 08:09.19 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: Different motivation for LoD I think |
| 08:10.02 | nymbia | yeah, that'd a different case for sure |
| 08:10.03 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: eg. The healthbar module is a core module in Aloft in that is MUST be there and present, or things look wrong (because it's manipulating a game-handled statusbar). It's just the options for it that aren't required most of the time |
| 08:10.31 | Roartindon | I checked the memory usage on PTR2.1... Aloft with all options is 900kb. Pulling out the options for things that are *enabled* brings it down to ~400kb |
| 08:10.55 | sylvanaar | nope |
| 08:10.59 | sylvanaar | same motivation |
| 08:11.14 | sylvanaar | prat had the same issues |
| 08:11.27 | Roartindon | hmm.. but your LoD is based on a module basis? |
| 08:11.31 | nymbia | user requested load vs automatic regular load |
| 08:11.33 | Roartindon | If a module is enabled, you load it. |
| 08:11.48 | sylvanaar | Just grab prat and give it a spin |
| 08:12.15 | Andune | xlvii: short answer, yes. Read http://www.wowace.com/wiki/BigWigs under Creation for the longer answer. :) |
| 08:13.03 | Roartindon | Pulling it from svn now |
| 08:13.10 | manub | about BigWigs, some friends of mine told me that they have the "proximity" option under Gruul the DragonKiller options... I can't find it, and they used only the WAU :( |
| 08:13.27 | [Ammo] | well it's there |
| 08:13.31 | manub | downloaded BigWigs_GruulAssist from curse-gaming, but I don't know if it's the same... anybody can explain me? ^^ |
| 08:13.33 | sylvanaar | how I use it in prat, is oreventing loading of unused modulesm but the useer can load additional modules at runtime without reloadui |
| 08:13.56 | [Ammo] | you don't need gruulassist anymore |
| 08:13.57 | nymbia | sylvanaar: once, right? ;) |
| 08:14.02 | [Ammo] | you just need the latest bigwigs |
| 08:14.08 | manub | nice [Ammo] |
| 08:14.18 | manub | am I good with 34308? |
| 08:14.26 | Morghus | Roartindon: Aloft has started to say spam the "enabled/disabled"-spam again :) |
| 08:14.31 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: That would save memory on modules that aren't enabled by the user.. but what I'm trying to save memory on is modules that ARE enabled. |
| 08:14.35 | Morghus | *-say |
| 08:14.39 | Roartindon | ie. they're enabled, they're active |
| 08:14.42 | sylvanaar | each addon that I provide ending in _AutoLod allows 1 more loading phase |
| 08:14.43 | [Ammo] | should be |
| 08:14.58 | [Ammo] | problem with prat's autolod is it still read all those files |
| 08:14.59 | Roartindon | Still checking out the stuff from svn |
| 08:15.01 | [Ammo] | but it works for prat |
| 08:15.01 | Roartindon | will look in a sec |
| 08:15.03 | manub | ok, I will check it in a while |
| 08:15.09 | [Ammo] | sucks for bigwigs to use that system |
| 08:15.25 | nymbia | wouldnt really make much sense for aloft |
| 08:15.30 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] that isnt as big a problem as you might imagine |
| 08:15.41 | nymbia | parsing is fast |
| 08:15.51 | nymbia | but it's non-trivial |
| 08:15.55 | sylvanaar | it doesnt confine you to loading all your modules, you can still partitiion them |
| 08:16.19 | [Ammo] | well, it's a nice system for some uses |
| 08:16.24 | Punkie` | Roartindon: How's Aloft's CPU usage on 2.1? :) |
| 08:16.32 | Roartindon | Punkie`: Barely any |
| 08:16.37 | Punkie` | awesome :) |
| 08:16.55 | sylvanaar | yeah, its mostly a 'working set' of modules implementation |
| 08:16.55 | Roartindon | Though I haven't done any raids or anything serious with it |
| 08:17.01 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:17.46 | sylvanaar | but each "load" event gives you the opportunity to choose additional modules to add to the working set |
| 08:18.10 | CIA-23 | 03antiarc 07SplitCache * r34321 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua Sanity2.toc SanityConstants.lua SanityDisplay.lua): Sanity2: Pulled out itemcache specific code, is now separate from SanityItemCache. |
| 08:18.21 | Roartindon | Punkie`: Aloft comes in at 1/4 the CPU usage of Pitbull.. sitting in Scryer bank with ~3-4 plates visible, and only myself in Pitbull |
| 08:18.30 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 08:18.37 | [Ammo] | means it's still more heavy than agUF :p |
| 08:18.43 | [Ammo] | agUF comes at 1/6th of pitbull ) |
| 08:18.56 | [Ammo] | or used to |
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| 08:19.50 | CIA-23 | 03antiarc * r34322 10SanityBags/ (5 files): SanityBags: Massive updates. See the Sanity2 "SplitCache" branch in SVN if you want to use Sanity with this. |
| 08:19.50 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: Well, I can get aguf and see, but Aloft is showing 5 nameplates atm, and pitbull is just showing one frame, so I don'ot know how it scales |
| 08:19.59 | Roartindon | But the main bit for me is that I'm not doing a KTM or something |
| 08:20.08 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:20.11 | Roartindon | I just enabled KTM, and it was chewing up reaaosnable CPU while doing NOTHING |
| 08:20.21 | nymbia | yeah lol |
| 08:20.52 | sylvanaar | prat does really well, i was surprised at some of the numbers. I just dont know how accurate they are yet |
| 08:22.05 | CIA-23 | 03antiarc * r34323 10SanityItemCache/ (7 files in 2 dirs): SanityItemCache: Initial commit. Abstracted item store/search/wrangler for Sanity and SanityBags. No externals yet. |
| 08:22.27 | sylvanaar | only the modules which have OnEvent handlers are noticable |
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| 08:24.35 | Punkie` | Has anyone actually checked SW_Stats on 2.1? |
| 08:25.02 | sylvanaar | not in a raid, but i dont expect it to have poor performance |
| 08:25.43 | [Ammo] | actually looking at the source it's going to chew quite a bit of cpu |
| 08:25.51 | Roartindon | OnUpdates? |
| 08:25.54 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:26.04 | [Ammo] | raidgroup scans very often etc |
| 08:26.14 | Roartindon | Hmm.. things that could be done on events? |
| 08:26.15 | [Ammo] | but only a real test can show it :) |
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| 08:27.25 | sylvanaar | on update doesnt mean high cpu all the time, prat has some that execute 100k times but have sub second time usages |
| 08:27.47 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: I think he meant onupdate checking things that could be better checked with events |
| 08:28.09 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 08:29.21 | manub | hmmm |
| 08:29.30 | manub | still got that damn problem with no public versions :( |
| 08:29.45 | manub | I tried to make a clean reinstall of the mods with skipversioncheck and deletebeforeextracting |
| 08:29.53 | manub | and pressed f10... but now I miss tons of mods :( |
| 08:30.04 | Elkano | which ones? |
| 08:30.18 | manub | ag_uf |
| 08:30.22 | manub | i.e. |
| 08:30.25 | manub | let me check |
| 08:30.41 | manub | bigwigs |
| 08:30.58 | CIA-23 | 03antiarc * r34324 10SanityBags/libs/: SanityBags: Updated libs with only those not required by SanityItemCache, since SanityItemCache is a dependency, so we can assume its dependencies are fulfilled. |
| 08:31.02 | sylvanaar | sw stats has high memory use but low cpu use from my quick tests |
| 08:31.20 | manub | mmm |
| 08:31.25 | CIA-23 | 03antiarc * r34325 10SanityItemCache/Libs/: SanityItemCache: Updated libs |
| 08:31.29 | manub | a lot of fu_bar plugins |
| 08:31.31 | NightHawkTheSane | what were the tests? |
| 08:31.32 | CIA-23 | 03antiarc 07SplitCache * r34326 10Sanity2/Libs/: Sanity2: Updated libs with only those not required by SanityItemCache, since SanityItemCache is a dependency, so we can assume its dependencies are fulfilled. |
| 08:31.46 | Antiarc | And with that, I sleep. |
| 08:31.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd expect there to be a significant difference between solo grinding and a 25 man raid |
| 08:31.49 | Antiarc | I'll merge the branch tomorrow. |
| 08:31.51 | Antiarc | Night, folks. |
| 08:32.08 | manub | doing another F10, Elkano |
| 08:32.14 | manub | but it seems to reinstall the mod I already installed |
| 08:32.23 | manub | even if I disabled skipversioncheck and deletebeforeextracting |
| 08:33.15 | manub | yes, I think there's something that don't work... pressed again F10 after pressed it once and still reinstalling almost all the mods |
| 08:33.28 | sylvanaar | i havent tested in a raid - just solo |
| 08:33.54 | Punkie` | http://www.qj.net/WoW-player-harrasses-woman-in-game-gets-beat-up-by-woman-s-husband-IRL/pg/49/aid/91058 |
| 08:33.57 | Punkie` | lolwut |
| 08:34.15 | manub | anyone knows what to do with it? :( |
| 08:35.26 | sylvanaar | manub - not all the zips are updated, and there is a bug so that r11111.1-11111.9 are the only ones it will update to, even if latest.txt says 11111.19, because as a decimal number 11111.9 > 11111.19 |
| 08:36.28 | manub | mmm |
| 08:37.27 | manub | sylvanaar - thanks :) anyway I still don't know why lots of mod don't work anymore after a reinstalling... I hear the sound from bugsack but can't put the icon on the fubar :( |
| 08:37.41 | sylvanaar | the fastest way to fix it is to change the server to use 11111.09 vs 11111.9 |
| 08:37.42 | manub | should I try manually updating from wowace.com/files? |
| 08:37.59 | sylvanaar | well, you shuld be updating from files.wowace.com |
| 08:38.05 | manub | yeah, in the WAU |
| 08:38.30 | manub | acefilespath files.wowace.com |
| 08:38.44 | sylvanaar | theere is a mirrors menu |
| 08:38.51 | manub | yeah |
| 08:39.00 | manub | I got only http://files.wowace.com |
| 08:39.18 | sylvanaar | thats ok |
| 08:39.28 | manub | ok (sorry for wasting your time mate!) |
| 08:39.38 | sylvanaar | it needs to be checked though |
| 08:39.42 | manub | so how can I change it to .09 to .9? ^^ |
| 08:39.47 | sylvanaar | you cant |
| 08:40.10 | manub | awww :( |
| 08:40.27 | manub | so I should try to manually update the mods? |
| 08:41.55 | sylvanaar | you could do a reaname on all the changelogs from NNNNN.Y to NNNNN.0Y (you'd need to pad to 2-3 digits |
| 08:43.13 | Elkano | sylvanaar, if he enables skipversioncheck that shouldn't matter, should it? |
| 08:43.31 | manub | I'm trying for now to download all mods from files.wowace.com :P |
| 08:43.46 | manub | I already noticed that I have some mods older than the ones there are on the server... |
| 08:44.49 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: If you could take a moment to explain to me if I've misunderstood |
| 08:44.50 | sylvanaar | skip version check will stop it from preventing downloads of .10= |
| 08:45.11 | Roartindon | Prat's autolod system is a two phase loader, which basically enables entire module enables or disables ? |
| 08:45.24 | Roartindon | err... enables entire modules, or disables them? |
| 08:45.40 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats how i am using it |
| 08:45.58 | Roartindon | And when they're disabled, they don't take any memory if they're disabled at load time... or after a reloadui |
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| 08:46.36 | Roartindon | Okay, the problem I'm addressing is different: I have every aloft module enabled; I've got it setup how i like, I just have half of the memory used by aloft dedicated to showing options. |
| 08:46.54 | sylvanaar | right |
| 08:46.56 | Roartindon | And in general, once players setup unit frames/configuration options, they don't change them |
| 08:47.02 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 08:47.25 | Roartindon | So I've shifted all of the options stuff to be LoD, not the modules themselves.. this doesn't mean that the modules themselves can't follow your autoLOD system |
| 08:47.33 | Roartindon | Just that the options LoD is a different problem |
| 08:47.49 | sylvanaar | cant those be modularized internally |
| 08:48.20 | sylvanaar | oh right i see |
| 08:48.33 | Roartindon | as soon as they're loaded, they take up half a mb of memroy just to store the option tables |
| 08:49.09 | Elkano | Gagorian: ping |
| 08:51.03 | Roartindon | I've added it as an option that 99% of users won't care about. But for those that want that tiny bit more memory, or 'optimize' their UI, they can move all their options to be LoD |
| 08:51.52 | sylvanaar | well, if you have descrete units of functionality, you can load them lua file, namepsaces withing lua files, I guess, i left in the options, and removed unused modules. i dont know that either way is better |
| 08:53.26 | sylvanaar | if you are interested, there's a library in prat which will show performance information inline on the fubar menus, you are welcome to use it |
| 08:53.41 | Roartindon | Well, there are a number of things in Aloft that can't be disabled, or things go very wrong.. Things like the name text display is 300 lines of code, and > 400 lines of options. |
| 08:53.49 | Roartindon | Expo? |
| 08:54.12 | sylvanaar | no, its called PerfLib, its in Prat/extras |
| 08:55.58 | Roartindon | Hmm.. any reason that AutoLOD in Prat isn't built into Prat? |
| 08:56.08 | Roartindon | Then only requires one additional addon (Prat_Modules) |
| 08:56.10 | Roartindon | rather than two? |
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| 08:56.45 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: wau is written in C# yeah? |
| 08:56.59 | sylvanaar | Um, it needs 2 _AutoLoD addons for the "load" events |
| 08:57.46 | sylvanaar | and it needs to be able to Load Prat_Modules, |
| 08:57.58 | sylvanaar | twice actually |
| 08:59.28 | sylvanaar | But i could have been thinking backwards who knows |
| 08:59.39 | Roartindon | It's given me something to think about :) |
| 08:59.50 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane yes |
| 09:00.48 | sylvanaar | aloft looks alot like Prat, in that you may want to disable stuff you dont use, i guess thats why i mentioned it |
| 09:01.42 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: Yeah, going to think about it a bit more. The options stuff tho is a memory saving on things that ARE enabled, and jsut the CoreModule stuff (which needs to be there), is a significant saving |
| 09:02.05 | Roartindon | The optional Modules would benefit from a Prat-like approach |
| 09:05.27 | sylvanaar | how much memory do you save after your modules are loaded and there has been a GC |
| 09:05.43 | Roartindon | By moving options out? |
| 09:05.49 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 09:05.52 | Roartindon | ~500kb |
| 09:06.20 | Roartindon | On PTR (relatively clean SVs file, so not much storage there), Aloft with all options is ~900kb... without options is ~400kb |
| 09:07.30 | sylvanaar | prat is 475/378 for Prat + Prat_Modules |
| 09:08.10 | sylvanaar | thats with 15 modules removed by AutoLoD |
| 09:09.26 | sylvanaar | with all of em on 585/408 |
| 09:09.50 | sylvanaar | first number is Prat_Modules |
| 09:10.37 | sylvanaar | aloft shows about 850 |
| 09:10.48 | Roartindon | Yeah, that's the ~900kb figure I gave before |
| 09:10.51 | Roartindon | that's aloft with all optoins |
| 09:16.01 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: I thnk I can do autoLOD all within a single addon |
| 09:16.04 | Roartindon | I'll have to test some code later |
| 09:16.30 | Roartindon | It'll parse the files multiple times unfortunately |
| 09:16.34 | Morghus | For some reason PitBull frames are showing Blessing of Might icon and TargetofTarget is showing Blessing of Freedom Oo |
| 09:16.37 | Roartindon | Will have to tinker/play :) |
| 09:17.50 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: Is this possible: |
| 09:18.12 | Roartindon | 1. Start of Prat.lua, set a variable that makes all other modules early-out of loading |
| 09:18.20 | Roartindon | ie. essentially: Prat.doNotLoadModules = true |
| 09:18.27 | Roartindon | then at the head of each module, use: |
| 09:18.46 | Roartindon | if Prat.doNotLoadModules then return end |
| 09:19.24 | Roartindon | Then in the OnEnable/etc, update a different variable, do a LoadAddOn("Prat"), |
| 09:19.41 | Roartindon | then do that again, getting 3 phases, but not requiring any user setup to split them into 3 addons |
| 09:22.01 | [Ammo] | loadaddon doesn't reload addons that are already loaded afaik |
| 09:25.07 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: Yep, you're right... just tested it.. shelve that idea |
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| 09:28.18 | sylvanaar | Roartindon it does what you suggest, just uses the extra folders to accomplish it |
| 09:28.27 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: yep, I see |
| 09:28.50 | Roartindon | Was just hoping for a solution that didn't require it if it was possible |
| 09:29.48 | Roartindon | Is it possible to determine at all what kind of load an addon is placing on Ace2 libraries? |
| 09:29.57 | sylvanaar | Prat_Modules can be placed in the prat folder. by just dragging it in there. In that case - you are not LoD, that |
| 09:30.28 | [Ammo] | Roartindon: in the case of AceEvent each addon has it's own frame |
| 09:30.53 | sylvanaar | If you notice though Prat_Modules_AutoLoD doesnt have any lua in it |
| 09:30.54 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: What kinds of things would be bundled under "Ace2" CPU usage? |
| 09:31.02 | [Ammo] | mainly aceevent |
| 09:31.32 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 why does ratingbuster tell me +8 str is worth +17.6 AP? |
| 09:31.34 | [Ammo] | maybe acelibrary a bit when it all starts up |
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| 09:32.01 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: so events that Aloft registers will contribute to Ace2 time? |
| 09:32.06 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 09:32.37 | sylvanaar | if AceLibrary calls LoadAddon() its billed for that addon's time and the time of any addons it loads |
| 09:33.13 | [Ammo] | the best way is to run Aloft and only aloft embedded |
| 09:33.14 | [Ammo] | and profile that |
| 09:33.36 | Roartindon | Which tools would you recommend? I've just been using Expo/PerformanceFu |
| 09:34.55 | sylvanaar | the one from pitbull it good also |
| 09:35.22 | Roartindon | I'm kind of scared that Aloft will be the top alphabetical addon for most users |
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| 09:35.33 | Roartindon | And it'll get billed for all other libraries AceEvent times |
| 09:35.36 | Roartindon | Is that possible? |
| 09:35.58 | Roartindon | And naïve users then blame Aloft for cpu drain |
| 09:36.06 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 09:36.12 | [Ammo] | guess why we removed tabletlib from bigwigs :p |
| 09:36.28 | [Ammo] | tablet is the devil |
| 09:36.45 | theoddone33 | zoloft |
| 09:36.50 | [Ammo] | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzomg |
| 09:36.50 | theoddone33 | I think that's a perscription drug |
| 09:36.55 | Bam__ | what does Aloft stand for? |
| 09:36.56 | NightHawkTheSane | it is |
| 09:37.06 | Roartindon | Bam__: Nothing, it's just a name |
| 09:37.09 | [Ammo] | aloft is on top, above |
| 09:37.10 | Bam__ | ok :P |
| 09:37.13 | [Ammo] | isn't it |
| 09:37.16 | sylvanaar | ...your head |
| 09:37.20 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: yep. |
| 09:37.21 | [Ammo] | k |
| 09:37.38 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: Which was how it was chosen, but I think of it more as just a name than meaning anything |
| 09:37.47 | theoddone33 | what you need to do is find an excuse to make a mod that's higher in alphabetical order |
| 09:38.01 | Bam__ | AAloft |
| 09:38.16 | NightHawkTheSane | AAAModThatDoesNothingButCatchesCPUTime. |
| 09:38.31 | Roartindon | AndAlsoIncludesAllEmbeddedLibraries |
| 09:38.45 | Bam__ | recursively |
| 09:38.49 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 09:39.17 | Roartindon | hmm.. CPU profiling with misattribution to addons could be a pain...... |
| 09:39.24 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 09:39.28 | Roartindon | Useful tool, but dangerous in stupid users |
| 09:39.48 | NightHawkTheSane | and of course, all users are stupid |
| 09:39.56 | sylvanaar | i posed that on the wow ui/macro forum, no response |
| 09:40.04 | theoddone33 | call it "Abuse - Your CPU time fell down the stairs" |
| 09:40.54 | sylvanaar | lol, just add an optdep to another mode |
| 09:40.55 | Diao | NightHawkTheSane |
| 09:40.56 | sylvanaar | mod |
| 09:40.57 | Diao | were you in berserker stance |
| 09:41.04 | Bam__ | I find it more troubling that users will not be shown Lua errors by default |
| 09:41.18 | sylvanaar | i dont |
| 09:41.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: I'm a shaman. |
| 09:41.52 | Diao | oh |
| 09:41.54 | Diao | ... |
| 09:41.55 | Bam__ | you might get fewer bug reports... but those you get will be without meaning |
| 09:42.03 | Diao | unleashed rage? |
| 09:42.05 | Diao | >.> |
| 09:42.24 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. that could actually make sense |
| 09:42.42 | ckknight | http://www.antimult.ru/antimults/antitoons/001smokekills/view.htm |
| 09:42.42 | NightHawkTheSane | It wasnt up at the time, but presumably ratingbuster would calculate AP as if it were |
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| 09:42.52 | NightHawkTheSane | And it was precisely 10% more than expected. |
| 09:43.40 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r34327 10Aloft/ (25 files in 4 dirs): |
| 09:43.40 | CIA-23 | Aloft : |
| 09:43.40 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:43.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, except now, mousing over it, it shows the proper 16 ap. *boggles* |
| 09:44.05 | Diao | lol |
| 09:44.35 | sylvanaar | Bam__ most of the bug reports i get are meaningless. I think that this will reduce thier number |
| 09:44.55 | Bam__ | lol |
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| 09:45.21 | Bam__ | is Prat on other sites than wowace? |
| 09:45.32 | sylvanaar | very soon |
| 09:45.56 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r34328 10Aloft/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:45.56 | CIA-23 | Aloft : |
| 09:45.56 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.59 | Bam__ | cool... one of my favorites indeed :P |
| 09:46.09 | sylvanaar | after this 2.1 update, im going to release it publically |
| 09:47.17 | Bam__ | are you Swedish btw? |
| 09:47.42 | sylvanaar | but i need to do wiki pages, and show some good samples of PratPlugin-1.0 |
| 09:47.50 | sylvanaar | no, american |
| 09:48.04 | Bam__ | ok... just considered the name Prat :P |
| 09:48.11 | Diao | StatLogicLib: |
| 09:48.11 | Diao | - Get stat mods from talants and buffs |
| 09:48.20 | Diao | maybe that's why |
| 09:49.29 | Sole_ | will I save any lookup time by declaring local functions for functions such as UnitName(foo)? |
| 09:49.38 | Sole_ | I know this works for table.insert and such |
| 09:49.44 | Bam__ | a tiny bit |
| 09:50.14 | Sole_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.27 | Sole_ | just wanted to confirm that it works on WoW functions and not just lua |
| 09:50.43 | Bam__ | just consider that it's not a good idea to do it for functions that may be hooked |
| 09:50.54 | Bam__ | but that's not likely for UnitName |
| 09:50.58 | sylvanaar | Prat still needs some buy-in from other developers. I'd love to see someone integrate prat with WIM or Cellular so that those frames supported Prat's chat formatting |
| 09:52.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Prat's come a long way from idChat. |
| 09:52.41 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 09:52.56 | sylvanaar | have you seen it working with dreamchat? |
| 09:53.17 | ZealotOnAStick | seen some screens, haven't tried Dreamchat yet. |
| 09:53.32 | Bam__ | does Prat have special handling for Dreamchat? |
| 09:53.39 | sylvanaar | no, generic |
| 09:53.47 | Bam__ | nice |
| 09:53.47 | AKX | Oh, yeah, sylvanaar |
| 09:53.57 | AKX | If you want to merge your changes to the main DreamChat, do it |
| 09:54.12 | sylvanaar | it can act as the text render for other chat frames |
| 09:54.31 | AKX | I heard you made some PratPlugin-compatible fork or whatnot... Feel free to merge it |
| 09:54.47 | Bam__ | are there addons that also modify chat windows that are likely to conflict with Prat you think? |
| 09:54.49 | sylvanaar | AKX cool, yeah, lemee let you take a look |
| 09:55.22 | sylvanaar | Bam__ sure, thats why prat has features to help prevent that type of interference |
| 09:55.41 | Bam__ | ok |
| 09:56.03 | AKX | Btw, sylvanaar, according to Warmup, Prat takes the longest to load :/ |
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| 09:56.13 | sylvanaar | Try the LoD version |
| 09:56.26 | AKX | That'll just offset the lag, no? :/ |
| 09:56.44 | Bam__ | and put the blame on other addons hehe |
| 09:57.17 | sylvanaar | Prat loads normally. It just delay loaded its modules |
| 09:58.11 | [Ammo] | that's what akx means |
| 09:58.12 | sylvanaar | AKX http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/DreamChat/sylvanaar |
| 09:58.39 | Diao | prat and dreamchat full compatibility would make me so happy :x |
| 09:58.48 | sylvanaar | AKX http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Prat/PratPlugin-1.0 |
| 09:58.57 | sylvanaar | there is a wiki page too |
| 10:00.04 | sylvanaar | I think i may habe implementment the library wrong, it uses internal locals, and therefore it cant run standalone (right?) |
| 10:01.24 | [Ammo] | the lib api should be able to access it all right |
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| 10:04.12 | sylvanaar | yeah, but the lib creates a Prat module inside, so that module would be shared if you run standalone, no? |
| 10:04.40 | [Ammo] | I dunno |
| 10:04.46 | [Ammo] | I haven't looked at it |
| 10:04.46 | Bam__ | if I have a very simple addon and just want the default standby/debug/about chat commands, is the right way simply passing nil as options to RegisterChatCommand? |
| 10:05.03 | [Ammo] | or empty options yeah |
| 10:05.09 | Bam__ | cheers |
| 10:05.15 | [Ammo] | something like {} |
| 10:05.19 | [Ammo] | should do the trick |
| 10:05.27 | Bam__ | nil seemed to work too |
| 10:05.33 | [Ammo] | k |
| 10:07.05 | Punkie` | Dear god |
| 10:07.14 | Punkie` | People are dividing by zero on the wow-europe forums |
| 10:07.26 | Punkie` | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=285191092&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
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| 10:10.04 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34329 10DreamChat/ (DreamChat.toc DreamChat_FrameClass.lua Messaging.lua): DreamChat: Support for PratPlugin-1.0 |
| 10:10.11 | theoddone33 | someone posted that on my realm forums a while back |
| 10:11.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: heh, my math teacher showed us that back in high school. most of the class was very confused for a while. |
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| 10:11.57 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 10:16.20 | theoddone33 | I want a legendary kael weapon for pvp |
| 10:16.23 | theoddone33 | too bad they don't work that way |
| 10:16.31 | [Ammo] | too bad? |
| 10:16.32 | [Ammo] | luckily |
| 10:16.51 | theoddone33 | a dagger that hits for 316... heh |
| 10:17.29 | theoddone33 | a 100k damage shield + fear immunity |
| 10:18.11 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r34330 10Violation/ (15 files in 2 dirs): Violation: reworked all modules to include party pet etc statistics. Renamed the modules accordingly. This change should play nice with broadcasted data from other violation users. |
| 10:19.56 | [Ammo] | now I just need to add toggles to the modules to turn off tracking of others |
| 10:20.06 | [Ammo] | but that's something for later |
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| 10:21.31 | dotted | any GUI for violation? |
| 10:21.43 | [Ammo] | it has a tablet |
| 10:22.05 | dotted | does it lack anything mahor? |
| 10:22.07 | dotted | *major |
| 10:22.57 | [Ammo] | well next up is ditching the tablet and going for bars view |
| 10:23.01 | Punkie` | http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/05/02/nvidia_geforce_8800_ultra/1.html need! |
| 10:23.11 | dotted | lol |
| 10:23.30 | dotted | lik 5% performance increase |
| 10:23.58 | Punkie` | serious business! |
| 10:24.00 | dotted | for a $180 higher price |
| 10:24.23 | Punkie` | duh, not like im going to buy it or anything |
| 10:24.24 | [Ammo] | $$$ is monopoly money anyway |
| 10:24.27 | [Ammo] | real money = euros |
| 10:24.30 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 10:24.32 | dotted | agreed |
| 10:24.34 | dotted | € ftw |
| 10:24.39 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34331 10DreamChat/ (. DreamChat.toc): DreamChat: pdated externals to include PratPlugin-1.0 |
| 10:24.40 | haste | utf-8 ftw :) |
| 10:24.45 | Punkie` | £££ = win |
| 10:25.00 | dotted | haste idd |
| 10:25.10 | dotted | Punkie` no |
| 10:25.13 | dotted | those fail |
| 10:25.16 | Punkie` | nevah |
| 10:25.17 | dotted | so hard |
| 10:25.26 | dotted | thats i makes me wanna cry |
| 10:25.30 | Punkie` | £ > $ |
| 10:25.34 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: if I don't have/want prat will dreamchat still load all that stuff? |
| 10:25.34 | dotted | *that it |
| 10:25.53 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] no |
| 10:26.01 | [Ammo] | k |
| 10:26.06 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] sec |
| 10:26.32 | Sole_ | dont you love it when you conduct a test and the results are positive, so you adapt the code to your addon and it stops working? |
| 10:26.46 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 10:26.52 | Punkie` | shame they won't let the pound go to 2 dollars :( |
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| 10:27.07 | Punkie` | it's like £1 = $1.99 |
| 10:27.08 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] You can use dreamchat without prat |
| 10:27.27 | [Ammo] | it's funny how no-one in the US is worried about the devaluation of the dollar |
| 10:27.50 | [Ammo] | when the devaluation is bigger than during that crash |
| 10:27.59 | sylvanaar | its good for me, im buying euro |
| 10:28.12 | evl | haha, I can tell you this much; i'm loving the deavaluation here in nroway |
| 10:28.14 | sylvanaar | or rather, i have already bought |
| 10:28.19 | Punkie` | I have pounds, I'll buy their stuff! |
| 10:28.46 | [Ammo] | evl: uhuh it's pretty cheap to buy stuff for dollars :) |
| 10:28.56 | evl | Yeah,. ebay FTW |
| 10:29.06 | Punkie` | [Ammo] is talking about the gold he purchased for WoW |
| 10:29.10 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 10:29.20 | [Ammo] | if I had bought gold I'd be flying a fast moubnt |
| 10:29.22 | sylvanaar | you trade forex ammo? |
| 10:29.41 | [Ammo] | naah, just stuff on ebay is ubercheap for us |
| 10:29.53 | sylvanaar | its one of my hobbies |
| 10:29.54 | [Ammo] | because the dollar is a cheapass 3rd world country valuta :p |
| 10:30.19 | [Ammo] | and the US keeps printing more dollars |
| 10:30.58 | sylvanaar | well, inflationary economies are good for borrowers on the medium term |
| 10:31.30 | Punkie` | I can't imagine it's too long until oil will be priced under euro's per barrel |
| 10:31.57 | [Ammo] | that's what the US fears most |
| 10:32.07 | Punkie` | of course |
| 10:32.08 | [Ammo] | the OPEC switching to pricing barrels in euros |
| 10:32.54 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 10:33.10 | [Ammo] | a lot of countries are already dumping their dollar investments and going for euros/gold |
| 10:33.14 | Punkie` | if that happens it might go over $2 per £ |
| 10:33.20 | Punkie` | yep, its the way to go |
| 10:33.27 | [Ammo] | it'll go over 2$ per pound no worries |
| 10:33.37 | Punkie` | It's being capped at the mo |
| 10:33.39 | [Ammo] | the dollar has been on a steady decline for 2 years now |
| 10:33.42 | Punkie` | clearly :P |
| 10:34.02 | sylvanaar | pricing in euro's could help the dollar |
| 10:34.23 | Punkie` | It won't be a valuable currency to invest in |
| 10:34.29 | Punkie` | so I don't think it will much |
| 10:35.13 | sylvanaar | you misunderstand how currency investment works |
| 10:35.26 | [Ammo] | it's not the currency investments atm |
| 10:35.32 | [Ammo] | it's the faith people put in the dollar |
| 10:35.44 | [Ammo] | if you take away the oil pricing in dollars things will go boom |
| 10:36.17 | sylvanaar | right, but a weak dollar means our export prices and domestic tourism go up |
| 10:36.45 | [Ammo] | it'll be water on hot iron |
| 10:37.35 | sylvanaar | a weak dollar could help cushion th blow from the housing market collapse which is underway |
| 10:37.52 | [Ammo] | might or might not |
| 10:38.06 | [Ammo] | my collegue had some interesting reads on the dollar decline |
| 10:38.11 | [Ammo] | will ask him for some urls |
| 10:39.02 | sylvanaar | alot depends on overnight lending rate, and the inflation indicators |
| 10:40.04 | Punkie` | either way, do you think it will really bounce back? |
| 10:40.08 | sylvanaar | yes |
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| 10:50.35 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34332 10DreamChat/Core.lua: DreamChat: guard inclusion of the PratPlugin mixin |
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| 10:51.04 | Neebler | huzzah! prat + dreamchat |
| 10:51.30 | sylvanaar | Neebler did you test it? |
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| 10:52.15 | Neebler | I will now |
| 10:52.22 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34333 10DreamChat/Core.lua: DreamChat: emd -> end |
| 10:52.36 | Neebler | never used dreamchat before, but I've seen screenshots and it looks nice |
| 10:52.53 | Neebler | didnt download because I read it wasn't compatable with prat, which I use |
| 10:52.57 | [R]Hoofman | anyone tried "Gladiator" and found a menu or something? /w me, help appriciated |
| 10:53.32 | sylvanaar | Neebler it was compatible, its just slightly more compatible now, but there are still issues to work out |
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| 11:02.39 | Neebler | haha victory! I love updating my addons and losing 5mb of UI memory |
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| 11:05.46 | sylvanaar | does bigwigs generate a boss_engaged event? |
| 11:06.58 | Neebler | 2 statup errors with dreamchat, 1 saying theirs no PratPlugin-1.0. And one in Core.lua:51 |
| 11:07.18 | sylvanaar | 34333? |
| 11:07.59 | Neebler | 34331 |
| 11:08.27 | sylvanaar | scroll up and see if those are the errors |
| 11:11.24 | Neebler | don't see any errors posted in here recently |
| 11:11.42 | sylvanaar | <CIA-23> sylvanaar * r34333 DreamChat/Core.lua: DreamChat: emd -> end |
| 11:11.54 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:12.27 | ckknight | emd! |
| 11:12.33 | Neebler | oh meh, just downloaded 34331 off files.wowace.com guess I'll wait for it to update |
| 11:13.42 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 11:13.44 | sylvanaar | just get http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/DreamChat/Core.lua |
| 11:13.56 | Neebler | updated loading wow now |
| 11:14.17 | Neebler | sorry eyes are half open |
| 11:14.22 | sylvanaar | mine too |
| 11:14.26 | sylvanaar | syntax errors |
| 11:16.20 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34334 10DreamChat/Core.lua: DreamChat: Corrected 2 syntax errors |
| 11:16.58 | Neebler | core.lua:2 'then' expected near dreamchat |
| 11:17.14 | AKX | Gyaah, you guys are highlighting me ("dreamchat") all the time now :D |
| 11:17.23 | sylvanaar | just get http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/DreamChat/Core.lua |
| 11:18.45 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r34335 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: turn on the modules for tracking per default |
| 11:19.30 | evl | [Ammo]: resumed work on viloation? :) |
| 11:19.35 | Silviu- | ckknight [2007/05/03 14:19:49-120-x1]: PitBull-r34316\Spark\Spark.lua:148: attempt to index upvalue 'powerSpark' (a nil value) |
| 11:19.41 | sylvanaar | AKX i just merged in - you may want to look it over |
| 11:20.12 | Neebler | Still getting the same errors I was in 34331 |
| 11:20.32 | Neebler | just updated core.lua with the svn one and did a reloadui |
| 11:21.23 | [Ammo] | evl: well, I was annoyed with the current state of the addon |
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| 11:21.51 | evl | [Ammo]: I'd settle for it being usable in a day-to-day raid situation without everyone having to run it |
| 11:22.21 | [Ammo] | evl: I should have fixed that now |
| 11:22.34 | [Ammo] | although combatlogrange is still an issue ofcourse |
| 11:22.39 | Neebler | well theres the problem, a sub directory of PratPlugin-1.0 |
| 11:22.47 | evl | [Ammo]: Cool, i have Kara today, I can run it alongside DamageMeters and give you a report |
| 11:22.55 | [Ammo] | hehe go ahead |
| 11:22.56 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34336 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: PitBull_Spark - bugfixing |
| 11:23.00 | Neebler | libs\PratPlugin-1.0\PratPlugin-1.0 when the toc points to libs\PratPlugin-1.0\PratPlugin-1.0.lua |
| 11:23.23 | [Ammo] | next up is a proper bar view |
| 11:23.30 | evl | [Ammo]: as a rogue i'm usually in top 3 but the important part is analyzing hit/crit/ap ratios and figuring out where i can optimize :) |
| 11:23.54 | ilifin | or you'll just be dead cause of cleaves |
| 11:24.02 | sylvanaar | i must be tired |
| 11:24.02 | [Ammo] | violation won't help you with that |
| 11:24.06 | evl | that's overrated :) |
| 11:24.14 | ilifin | evl is being violated by cleaves |
| 11:24.23 | evl | only bosses i have problems with is Quag and some whirly bosses |
| 11:24.25 | [Ammo] | but it should give reasonably accurate dps figures |
| 11:24.31 | ilifin | quag, thank you >_> |
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| 11:24.37 | ilifin | I rerolled shaman cause of quagmirran |
| 11:24.45 | evl | well he's being fixed in next patch |
| 11:24.52 | evl | I haven't left my beloved rogue since US closed beta |
| 11:24.54 | evl | and I never will |
| 11:25.06 | nevcairiel | rerolling ftl |
| 11:25.12 | evl | and a shaman :D |
| 11:25.16 | nevcairiel | show some guts and stick to your choice! |
| 11:25.16 | evl | those are so easy for me |
| 11:25.19 | evl | don't even bother using cooldowns |
| 11:25.26 | evl | pew pew, wound poison nvm earthshield poop |
| 11:25.28 | ilifin | I'm alliance so it's a new challenge |
| 11:25.52 | evl | pvp aside |
| 11:25.54 | evl | shamans are my <3 |
| 11:25.58 | evl | insane dps boost |
| 11:26.22 | ilifin | we don't use much melee in karazhan so I'm mostly buffing mages and booomkins |
| 11:26.30 | Neebler | Sylvanaar: fixed the PratPlugin problem with the extra directory, and now it's working with no errors |
| 11:26.32 | [Ammo] | I love resto shaman :p |
| 11:26.38 | evl | yeah, resto has insane healing |
| 11:26.41 | [Ammo] | 100 spelldamage extra and more mananaaaa |
| 11:26.42 | ilifin | I'm 61 resto |
| 11:26.44 | evl | and heroism on prince phase 2 |
| 11:26.46 | evl | omg nice :P |
| 11:27.04 | yacoob_ | http://09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63.com/ heh |
| 11:27.09 | ilifin | haha |
| 11:27.09 | [Ammo] | not to mention I get to melee mana feeders with my lock and whirlwind! |
| 11:27.19 | ilifin | windfury |
| 11:27.21 | [Ammo] | windfury yeah |
| 11:27.22 | [Ammo] | zomg |
| 11:27.27 | [Ammo] | it's like the bomb |
| 11:27.45 | ilifin | our warriors switch to 2h with tankgear and I get tossed to their group on the mana feeders |
| 11:27.54 | ilifin | windfury in tankgear hooo |
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| 11:28.37 | evl | Well well mana users |
| 11:29.02 | evl | with the glancing blow buff in the next patch I have zero doubts the top spots will once again glow orange :) |
| 11:29.24 | nevcairiel | orange as in feral druids? |
| 11:29.39 | evl | rogues my friend :P |
| 11:29.45 | nevcairiel | rogues are yellow |
| 11:29.48 | evl | once kings will be kings again! |
| 11:29.48 | nevcairiel | l2color |
| 11:29.48 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 11:29.51 | evl | :(((( |
| 11:30.00 | evl | only class i have problems with is warriors |
| 11:30.03 | [Ammo] | rogues are yellow |
| 11:30.04 | evl | what the hell is up with that class now |
| 11:30.11 | evl | charge -> RAAAAAAAPEFEST |
| 11:30.15 | evl | can't do anything :P |
| 11:30.41 | nevcairiel | at least you can feel good, that pewpew-warriors really dont have a place in raids :P |
| 11:30.58 | evl | well atleast blizzard separated pve from pve |
| 11:31.00 | evl | pvp* |
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| 11:36.09 | CIA-23 | 03sole * r34337 10Antagonist/Data/Buffs.lua: Antagonist: Added 'Blessed Resillience' buff data. |
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| 11:50.38 | Punkie` | long |
| 11:51.15 | Neebler | ceiling cat is |
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| 12:14.07 | wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:14.33 | JoshBorke | wobin: stalker |
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| 12:25.35 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r34338 10DreamChat/: DreamChat: Corrected syntax errors |
| 12:26.53 | yacoob_ | http://blog.digg.com/?p=73 vs http://blog.digg.com/?p=74 heh |
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| 12:30.17 | yacoob_ | say, why do I have '_' at the end... |
| 12:30.23 | yacoob | much better. |
| 12:31.20 | CIA-23 | 03jncl * r34339 10Skinner/ (PanelMove.lua Skinner.lua): |
| 12:31.20 | CIA-23 | Skinner: |
| 12:31.20 | CIA-23 | - Fixed PTR bug with PanelMove.lua |
| 12:31.20 | Gagorian | Elkano: pong |
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| 12:38.48 | ashai|hc | you guys think 2.1 is far off now? |
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| 12:41.03 | |Pixel| | 2 weeks |
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| 12:41.53 | nevcairiel | if pixel says that .. i believe him :D |
| 12:42.08 | |Pixel| | ah ? :) |
| 12:42.27 | chutwig | don't believe his lies |
| 12:42.33 | nevcairiel | (plus it sounds like a good estimate anyway= |
| 12:44.21 | evl | I think next week if there's no more PTR updates |
| 12:44.29 | evl | or rather, when PTR goes silent the patch will follow |
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| 12:45.58 | nevcairiel | i still think the background loader would activate like a week before |
| 12:46.02 | nevcairiel | since its 300mb patch again |
| 12:46.52 | Matrix110 | nevcairiel is right background dler wouldve started if the patch is 14-7days away |
| 12:47.31 | wobin | oh man |
| 12:47.37 | wobin | internet addiction BOOT CAMP |
| 12:47.39 | JoshBorke | oh woman |
| 12:47.40 | wobin | in china |
| 12:47.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:47.59 | Ordog | longer testrealm cycles than 2 weeks are unusual tho |
| 12:48.00 | ilifin | do they have cookies |
| 12:48.02 | wobin | $1200 a month |
| 12:48.06 | chutwig | <house> it's not an addiction if it doesn't bother me |
| 12:48.06 | ilifin | and trojan horses |
| 12:48.10 | ilifin | free retinal viruses? |
| 12:48.20 | ilifin | and backdoor entrances to the toilets! |
| 12:48.23 | JoshBorke | Ordog: for content patches? |
| 12:48.25 | wobin | rofl |
| 12:48.35 | JoshBorke | Ordog: how long was the Naxx patch on PTR? |
| 12:48.47 | wobin | I love how the screenshots they show of the EVIL INTERNET GAMES hardly ever looks like the real thing |
| 12:49.00 | ilifin | doom? |
| 12:49.01 | Ordog | hm you got a point there but i cant see where its heading at ^^ |
| 12:49.06 | wobin | Cause you can play games like World of Warcraft, where you can play characters like "The Paladin" |
| 12:49.20 | abbat_w | no news about patch release date, guys? |
| 12:49.26 | wobin | woo |
| 12:49.27 | Megalon | Xdarkpaladinx! |
| 12:49.29 | wobin | shock therapy |
| 12:49.29 | JoshBorke | Ordog: it's a content patch enabling access to 2 major raid zones and 2 new factions |
| 12:49.39 | wobin | 70% of kids going into it are cured |
| 12:49.53 | JoshBorke | Ordog: they take longer to test |
| 12:50.04 | wobin | Rescued from being Trapped... In The Web |
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| 12:50.21 | JoshBorke | Ordog: i'd expect at least 4 weeks for this sort of patch |
| 12:50.30 | Ordog | yaya i understood when you asked "for content patches?" ok? |
| 12:50.31 | Ordog | ^^ |
| 12:50.45 | JoshBorke | i was ust clarifying where i was heading :-) |
| 12:51.03 | JoshBorke | s/u/ju/ |
| 12:51.29 | Elkano | Gagorian: sorry, sitting in lecture with sound turned of ^^ just wanted to note that DrDamage seems to sometimes not catch druids shapeshifts leaving numbers for the wrong spells on the bar |
| 12:51.33 | ilifin | purl: what are you |
| 12:51.35 | purl | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 12:51.38 | kenlyric_ | wowfark http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/5622/wowbo0.jpg |
| 12:51.43 | ilifin | purl: blootbot |
| 12:51.44 | purl | rumour has it, blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot |
| 12:51.45 | abbat_w | so, we have about 1 month before patch coming ;) |
| 12:51.55 | Ordog | i was trying to hide my embaressed laughter with irony |
| 12:52.53 | nevcairiel | kenlyric_: is that real ? :P |
| 12:53.42 | Ordog | its rather farkish? |
| 12:53.43 | Ordog | ^^ |
| 12:54.37 | Gagorian | Elkano: That's and old thing I thought I had fixed. DrDamage updates on "UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM" event, which should take care of those. |
| 12:58.08 | Elkano | well, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't |
| 12:59.23 | Gagorian | So, umm, can you reproduce it? Or is it just random -_- |
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| 13:02.01 | Stylpe | kergoth, are you there? |
| 13:02.31 | Stylpe | ~seen nymbia |
| 13:02.56 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 42m 35s ago, saying: 'yeah lol'. |
| 13:02.56 | Stylpe | !seen nymbia |
| 13:02.56 | Diao | nymbia!n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net was last seen 3 hr 54 min 52 s ago on #wowace |
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| 13:04.31 | Stylpe | bummer =P |
| 13:05.49 | Stylpe | guess I'll try to check back later |
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| 13:12.35 | CIA-23 | 03gagorian * r34340 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 13:12.35 | CIA-23 | DrDamage: |
| 13:12.35 | CIA-23 | -On shapeshifting event cancel scheduled AB update to force update that hides all existing DrDamage text |
| 13:13.24 | Gagorian | Elkano: Try that when you got the time |
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| 13:26.21 | evl | The most epic item in the game? |
| 13:26.21 | evl | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32566 |
| 13:28.42 | Elkano | Gagorian, I will when I get home :) |
| 13:28.57 | Elkano | evl, it's from the TCG :( |
| 13:29.16 | evl | it's still the EPICEST |
| 13:29.19 | evl | think about it, as a rogue |
| 13:29.26 | evl | you just ambush people trying to violate your picnic! |
| 13:29.30 | evl | 100% rp value |
| 13:29.31 | yacoob | anyone here playing city of heroes/villans? |
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| 13:58.10 | CIA-23 | 03elkano * r34341 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua statusbar/Minimalist.tga): SharedMedia: added Minimalist by request |
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| 14:02.36 | Hjalte | If i want to have a realistic view on how much memory ace addons are taking in 2.1, I have to use stand-alone libraries, wont I? |
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| 14:04.10 | CIA-23 | 03elkano * r34342 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua SharedMedia.toc): SharedMedia: set keywords, changed x-category to Miscellaneous |
| 14:04.25 | Elkano | Hjalte, will most likely help, yes |
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| 14:06.19 | [Ammo] | evl: http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/katiechops/summertime.divx |
| 14:06.23 | [Ammo] | featuring that item :) |
| 14:07.15 | Hjalte | If i were to try and convert to stand-alone libs, is there anything i should have in mind? |
| 14:07.54 | [Ammo] | picture naked women, a beach and a beer |
| 14:07.57 | [Ammo] | usually works for me |
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| 14:09.41 | kenlyric_ | nope, it's very very easy with WAU... install !!SAL. Then, reinstall all addons. Make sure you have the option set to delete the addon first before update. (will get rid of the "libs" folders in each addon) |
| 14:09.42 | Elkano | well, iirc some addons have libs embedded that don't exist as standalone. but as long as you checkout without externals they should still be fine. But Grid has 2 externals from another svn repository. |
| 14:11.19 | Matrix110 | If you get errors for missing libaries just search them and manually click em:P |
| 14:11.53 | kenlyric_ | I've had no problem yet, grid seems to get its libraries that aren't in SAL (castcommlib and utf8) |
| 14:14.08 | Matrix110 | sometimes libaries are on files. but not inside !!!SAL yet(RatingBuster had(still have?) this problem) |
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| 14:18.33 | Saroz | vhaarr, can I fork NRT? |
| 14:18.42 | vhaarr | :P |
| 14:19.22 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: check my violation changes and feel free to call me a moron :p |
| 14:19.28 | [Ammo] | but it works :) |
| 14:19.31 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: hehe |
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| 14:20.04 | [Ammo] | dps meters for non-violation users was the trickiest |
| 14:20.12 | [Ammo] | but the current solution is a nice approximate |
| 14:20.12 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34343 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: Kaelthas: Warnings for phase 1 and 2. |
| 14:20.48 | Matrix110 | sra=ora2.5? |
| 14:21.00 | vhaarr | Matrix110: Read the notes in the TOC. |
| 14:21.06 | [Ammo] | the toc notes explain everything |
| 14:21.27 | Matrix110 | the .lua has nothing inside that that would eat breakfast! |
| 14:21.27 | [Ammo] | if they're not clear enough |
| 14:21.31 | [Ammo] | read the commit logs |
| 14:21.52 | Matrix110 | ill just install it and see:P |
| 14:22.17 | vodrin | are you running out of SRA initilisms yet? |
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| 14:23.10 | Saroz | WTF is SRA |
| 14:23.11 | vhaarr | never |
| 14:23.34 | Saroz | WTF is Violation |
| 14:23.52 | Matrix110 | sra=mini ora it seems |
| 14:23.57 | Matrix110 | Violation=similiar to SWStats |
| 14:24.04 | Saroz | gief!!! |
| 14:24.08 | *** kick/#wowace [Matrix110!i=folk@ghybel696.krs.hia.no] by vhaarr (bah, now you ruined everything) |
| 14:24.09 | Saroz | hate SW stats |
| 14:24.11 | Saroz | getting it now |
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| 14:24.17 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 14:24.19 | [Ammo] | prepare for bugs |
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| 14:24.22 | Matrix110 | :-( |
| 14:24.37 | Stephmw | Violation is doing ok here |
| 14:24.37 | Saroz | SRA = what's the point |
| 14:24.44 | Stephmw | only 2 users in my group though |
| 14:24.47 | [Ammo] | Stephmw: even after my changes? |
| 14:24.53 | Stephmw | [Ammo]: how recent? |
| 14:24.56 | [Ammo] | this morning |
| 14:25.01 | [Ammo] | like 6 hours ago approx |
| 14:25.08 | Stephmw | ah. ok, then no idea :D |
| 14:25.11 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 14:25.17 | Stephmw | what have you broken? |
| 14:25.23 | [Ammo] | it shouldn't be broken |
| 14:25.25 | Saroz | SWStats' timeline feature makes me want to cry |
| 14:25.27 | Matrix110 | well if you got alot of other Addons they do things ora2 does in addition to raid managment |
| 14:25.58 | Matrix110 | and SRA is just the core of ora and provides the basic functions |
| 14:26.12 | [Ammo] | Matrix110: you have luckily got no clue what you're talking about |
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| 14:26.34 | Matrix110 | good:P |
| 14:27.01 | Stephmw | [Ammo]: ok, we'll see tonight - do you have any vision for Violator's future? |
| 14:27.06 | Stephmw | *Violation's |
| 14:27.17 | vhaarr | I have one |
| 14:27.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Saroz: SWS2s Timelines: why:? |
| 14:27.22 | vhaarr | not letting AMMO COMMIT AGAIN |
| 14:27.22 | vhaarr | GOD |
| 14:27.24 | Matrix110 | but it does what ive said atleast its coded more efficently though i guess |
| 14:27.26 | vhaarr | jk |
| 14:27.28 | Saroz | memory hog |
| 14:27.42 | [Ammo] | hahaha vhaarr |
| 14:27.50 | vhaarr | Matrix110: nah, SRAs code is crap |
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| 14:27.55 | vhaarr | Matrix110: true story |
| 14:28.13 | ZealotOnAStick | saroz: better than people clearing DM every fucking trash pull. |
| 14:28.36 | Saroz | I don't need the feature, it takes up memory, therefore, it sucks |
| 14:28.37 | Matrix110 | if you could atleast disable this Timeline crap |
| 14:28.41 | Saroz | indeed |
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| 14:29.14 | vodrin | he should have just kept it so there was no raid wide reset |
| 14:30.07 | Matrix110 | that was even more retarted |
| 14:30.30 | Hjalte | Why is it, that sometimes when i log in, i get told who is in some of my chat channels. But it's totally random. Using Prat. |
| 14:30.44 | Hjalte | And chatlistfu |
| 14:31.27 | vodrin | Interface\AddOns\Violation\Violation.lua:475: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 474) near '=' |
| 14:32.34 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 14:32.59 | Saroz | someone fucked up Skinner |
| 14:33.18 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r34344 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: fix line 475 error |
| 14:33.43 | krka | wow, a syntax error |
| 14:33.47 | krka | that's embarrassing |
| 14:34.03 | haste | very |
| 14:34.14 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 14:34.21 | [Ammo] | sssst |
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| 14:34.23 | [Ammo] | it didn't happen |
| 14:34.25 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 14:34.34 | krka | i never commit stuff that doesn't pass unit testing, never mind compiles |
| 14:34.50 | [Ammo] | good for you |
| 14:35.05 | krka | good for the development team in general :) |
| 14:35.52 | [Ammo] | who cares |
| 14:36.01 | CIA-23 | 03bam * r34345 10ItemPriceTooltip/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:36.01 | CIA-23 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 14:36.01 | CIA-23 | - Adds vendor sell value to item tooltips |
| 14:36.02 | [Ammo] | people should not be downloading stuff :p |
| 14:36.27 | JoshBorke | holy fuck. another sell value mod? |
| 14:36.32 | Bam__ | :P |
| 14:36.39 | [Ammo] | and one that sucks compared to SellFish too |
| 14:36.55 | Bam__ | many thanks |
| 14:37.05 | kenlyric_ | lol. |
| 14:37.17 | CIA-23 | 03saroz * r34346 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Another syntax error |
| 14:37.18 | Saroz | HI AMMO!!! |
| 14:37.21 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 14:37.28 | kenlyric_ | I wonder what would happen if you installed cola and that and informant and all the restt. |
| 14:37.28 | [Ammo] | you know I'm at work |
| 14:37.32 | Saroz | :p |
| 14:37.38 | [Ammo] | so no wow |
| 14:37.42 | [Ammo] | just drycoded that module thing |
| 14:37.53 | kenlyric_ | wonder if you can overload a tooltip with too much price information. |
| 14:38.03 | vodrin | you can try |
| 14:38.10 | Bam__ | I've had tooltips that couldn't fit on the screen |
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| 14:38.27 | Saroz | hrrrm |
| 14:38.31 | Saroz | it says No Modules running |
| 14:38.35 | Saroz | but they are all enabled |
| 14:38.43 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 14:38.50 | [Ammo] | but you have none set to display in the tooltip |
| 14:38.52 | [Ammo] | it's just tracking em |
| 14:38.55 | [Ammo] | tracking the data |
| 14:39.05 | Hjalte | Does Violation support party or raid members damage or importing from other addons such as sw_stats or so? |
| 14:39.06 | Saroz | ahh |
| 14:39.16 | [Ammo] | Hjalte: no |
| 14:39.29 | Kilroo | Ah. |
| 14:39.35 | [Ammo] | Hjalte: take a look at the swstats broadcasting code and then keel over and die |
| 14:39.38 | krka | luac -p *.lua && svn commit -m "$1" && echo commited! |
| 14:39.46 | krka | save it in a script file, FTW! |
| 14:39.49 | Saroz | me likes it |
| 14:40.03 | Kilroo | So it would be yet another alternative to consider if I decide I don't care whether my DPS is pathetic compared to the rest of the group? |
| 14:40.05 | Hjalte | [Ammo]: Then it's just not that much fun, when i can only see my own damage and healing :P |
| 14:40.06 | krka | mine is called commit.sh |
| 14:40.22 | krka | no more commits of lua with broken syntax |
| 14:40.23 | [Ammo] | krka: no thanks |
| 14:40.27 | [Ammo] | I'd rather commit some drycode |
| 14:40.32 | [Ammo] | with errors |
| 14:40.38 | [Ammo] | teaches stupid users not to download alpha software |
| 14:40.44 | Saroz | pretty cool, pretty cool |
| 14:40.45 | krka | drycode? |
| 14:40.51 | Saroz | needs a lot of tweaks, but very nice |
| 14:41.06 | Saroz | needs a GUI module for sure, for the damage meter whores :) |
| 14:41.07 | [Ammo] | Saroz: working on a bar display atm |
| 14:41.13 | Saroz | ^^ |
| 14:41.13 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34347 10ShutUp/ShutUp.lua: ShutUp: Possible bugfix for weird block messages. |
| 14:41.20 | [Ammo] | so we can ditch the tabletlib |
| 14:41.20 | krka | [Ammo]: why the need to "teach" users? |
| 14:41.30 | Thrae | [Ammo]: I only have typos when I can't use gvim. |
| 14:41.31 | [Ammo] | why the need to commit working code always? |
| 14:41.33 | Saroz | indeed Ammo |
| 14:41.51 | nevcairiel | teching them, so they learn and dont stay stupid ? :P |
| 14:41.54 | krka | intentionally commiting code that doesn't work just to annoy bleeding edge users seems silly |
| 14:42.03 | [Ammo] | it's not intentional |
| 14:42.12 | krka | in my experience, those users have been useful for finding real bugs and giving valid feedback |
| 14:42.14 | kenlyric_ | sarasm detector has failed. Please repair. |
| 14:42.23 | krka | so i can fix the bugs before the mass uses it |
| 14:42.45 | [Ammo] | well I don't really code for users |
| 14:42.48 | [Ammo] | never have |
| 14:43.00 | [Ammo] | I code for personal enjoyment |
| 14:43.06 | krka | i don't either (for hobby anyway) |
| 14:43.11 | Mikma | stop pretending to be tekkub |
| 14:43.30 | krka | but there's a difference between "coding for yourself" and "intentionally releasing broken code" |
| 14:43.39 | [Ammo] | I'm not releasing anything |
| 14:43.51 | [Ammo] | it's on a SVN repo |
| 14:43.53 | [Ammo] | that's hardly releasing |
| 14:44.03 | Thrae | AceSVN has long had the standard of using /trunk for stable commits and /branches for unstable commits. Many people even use the AceSVN to release their betas to the world. |
| 14:44.24 | krka | true, a commit doesn't imply a release |
| 14:44.30 | Thrae | The very nature of SVN makes keeping your betas up-to-date o-so-easy. |
| 14:44.39 | vodrin | god you people will whine about anything |
| 14:44.42 | kebinusan | heh, I dunno Ive seen alot of commits to trunk followed closely by 'typo/bugfix' commits people are used to if the CO from the svn imo |
| 14:44.43 | Kilroo | As long as WAU will get the latest beta releases so that I'm not coping with bugs that have really already been fixed, but won't get alphas that have been committed without unit testing...I'm happy. |
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| 14:45.14 | [Ammo] | I normally test my code |
| 14:45.24 | [Ammo] | this violation bug got in because I rushed in something I forgot |
| 14:45.40 | [Ammo] | it got fixed within 30 seconds of the bugreport |
| 14:45.42 | krka | commiting broken code is rarely useful - i mostly do that myself when switching work stations, and i need to have the latest code, even if it's broken :) |
| 14:45.42 | [Ammo] | I see no problem |
| 14:45.45 | kebinusan | let it be known that Ammo is not perfect |
| 14:45.53 | Thrae | Forgetting stuff happens |
| 14:45.56 | [Ammo] | I am not intentionally committing broken stuff |
| 14:46.04 | [Ammo] | I jsut don't give a damn if it's accidently broken |
| 14:46.26 | Hjalte | Roartindon_, can i delete the aloft_presets addon once i've applied one? |
| 14:46.28 | kenlyric_ | kebinusan: lies |
| 14:46.29 | Kilroo | Well, Ammo, I'm not really nattered about it...haven't activated my Burning Crusade trial yet so I can't play...and doubt I'd use either of those anyhow. So I'm still happy. |
| 14:46.32 | kebinusan | Just if the korean guy who updated locals borke |
| 14:46.35 | kebinusan | *broke it |
| 14:47.02 | Thrae | This is all hobby coding. You do the best you can with the most effort you can place into your work. Mistakes will probably happen more often then a professional environment, where mistakes still can happen. |
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| 14:47.15 | krka | just thought i'd share a useful commit script - it has caught a lot of minor mistakes for me |
| 14:52.48 | Kilroo | Rats. |
| 14:52.53 | Roartindon_ | Hjalte: Yes |
| 14:54.46 | sedatedChipmunk | all my code is broken >8\ |
| 15:02.22 | CIA-23 | 03fleetfoot * r34348 10LittleTrouble/LittleTrouble.lua: |
| 15:02.22 | CIA-23 | LittleTrouble: |
| 15:02.22 | CIA-23 | - Added textures |
| 15:02.56 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: when is it not? |
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| 15:08.22 | CIA-23 | 03bam * r34349 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.toc: |
| 15:08.22 | CIA-23 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 15:08.23 | CIA-23 | - Added forum-thread tag to TOC |
| 15:08.35 | CIA-23 | 03jncl * r34350 10Skinner/PanelMove.lua: |
| 15:08.35 | CIA-23 | Skinner: |
| 15:08.35 | CIA-23 | - Fix bug introduced in the last fix :( |
| 15:09.08 | kebinusan | http://madnesslabs.com/wow/classnotes.html |
| 15:09.18 | kebinusan | lists all the wow class changes since release, its kinda neat |
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| 15:11.49 | Megalon | hm |
| 15:11.54 | Megalon | filter buffs |
| 15:11.58 | Megalon | warlocks |
| 15:11.59 | deltron | wow that is madness |
| 15:12.03 | Megalon | 2 pages of greeness |
| 15:12.05 | Megalon | >:< |
| 15:12.19 | Megalon | qq! |
| 15:13.02 | JoshBorke | the colors are wrong |
| 15:13.07 | JoshBorke | green = buffs, brown = nerfs- |
| 15:13.12 | vhaarr | yep |
| 15:15.19 | Punkie` | cool, a timeline of the demise of the dps warrior :D |
| 15:15.24 | Bam__ | still waiting to see: Blink has been fixed so you no longer jump backwards :P |
| 15:16.15 | Punkie` | They can't patch the game to stop you from being a noob Bam__ |
| 15:16.52 | Bam__ | lol right |
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| 15:18.43 | Thrae | 1.08 was the best patch for Warlocks so far |
| 15:19.18 | Thrae | Then again, 2.0 killed all of Decursive ;) |
| 15:20.39 | vhaarr | haha yeah, that one is a blessing in battlegroups |
| 15:20.39 | vhaarr | especially coupled with unstable affliction |
| 15:21.18 | Thrae | vhaarr: What type of Warlock has a Felguard? Demonologist? |
| 15:21.23 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 15:21.44 | vhaarr | I tried that spec on my warlock alt at 60, when I started leveling with him again |
| 15:21.51 | vhaarr | didn't like it, went back to affliction/destr |
| 15:22.05 | Thrae | I've been seeing more PvP Demonologists around then Destruction or Affliction, which I thought was weird |
| 15:22.14 | Thrae | Even though 50-59 is a good PvP bracket |
| 15:22.19 | chutwig | nah |
| 15:22.26 | kebinusan | the cool factor of the felguard wears off and mostly cause soul link is almost required in arenas |
| 15:22.29 | chutwig | soul makes you crazy hard to kill |
| 15:22.30 | kebinusan | at least 5v5 |
| 15:22.33 | chutwig | soul link |
| 15:23.05 | kebinusan | Unstable Affliction - The 41 pt talent that requires your opponent to be a complete idiot |
| 15:23.17 | chutwig | people cleanse mine surprisingly often |
| 15:23.23 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 15:23.26 | kebinusan | I giggle like a girl when its cleansed |
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| 15:23.28 | chutwig | which is fine with me |
| 15:23.37 | chutwig | as it goes pop on their head for 5k or so |
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| 15:24.19 | Punkie` | its cool how I can just cloak of shadows out of it though |
| 15:24.33 | vhaarr | it should really be classified as a dispel, and blow up |
| 15:24.36 | vhaarr | clos, I mean |
| 15:24.39 | chutwig | it's cool how clos is crazy ezmode |
| 15:24.45 | kebinusan | I agree vhaarr |
| 15:24.53 | vhaarr | all warlocks agree :P |
| 15:25.06 | chutwig | if they reduced clos's duration i wouldn't care as much |
| 15:25.10 | kebinusan | at least our pvp trinket will get us out of rogue stuns next patch thats a very welcome change |
| 15:25.17 | chutwig | but the clos+wotf sucker punch means undead rogues will get me every time |
| 15:25.41 | tophero | yeah, and our trinkets won't get us out of seduce anymore |
| 15:25.42 | Thrae | Wow, Demo. Warlocks can get over 60% physical damage reduction |
| 15:25.55 | kebinusan | not anymore |
| 15:26.02 | chutwig | waaaaaay back in the day you could |
| 15:26.05 | chutwig | now it's down to 20% |
| 15:26.09 | kebinusan | soul link is only 20% and voidwalker is 10% |
| 15:26.23 | kebinusan | yeah, those were the days |
| 15:26.26 | chutwig | at most you can get maybe 40% physical damage reduction |
| 15:26.36 | tophero | do you both play locks as mains? |
| 15:26.44 | chutwig | i do |
| 15:26.45 | [Ammo] | I do |
| 15:26.49 | kebinusan | the biggest thing I miss about being a warlock is the old vulnerability bonuses |
| 15:26.52 | kebinusan | I do as well |
| 15:26.56 | tophero | lol |
| 15:26.57 | chutwig | negative resists lulz |
| 15:27.09 | Thrae | Demonic Embrace, Master Demonologist from Voidwalker, Soul Link, Demon Armour, and Cloak of Warding buffs? |
| 15:27.29 | chutwig | demonic embrace isn't damage reduction :confused: |
| 15:27.33 | kebinusan | demonic embrace doesnt offer damage reduction just increased stam |
| 15:27.49 | Thrae | Right, that total got you +15% Health |
| 15:27.50 | kebinusan | I guess Ive never looked at the DR from fel armor, no warlock uses that anymore anyway |
| 15:27.58 | chutwig | demon armor is useless |
| 15:27.59 | kebinusan | err demon armor |
| 15:28.01 | chutwig | don't even have it on my bars |
| 15:28.32 | vhaarr | it's better for survivability if you don't have a healer |
| 15:28.41 | Thrae | Well 9 months ago, when the post was made, it got you up to 60+% physical absorb, 30% magical, and +15% health |
| 15:28.43 | chutwig | best defense is a good offense |
| 15:28.46 | Thrae | vhaarr: aka, most of PvP! |
| 15:29.17 | kebinusan | cept if you're affliction you get better health returns from siphon, drain, deathcoil, healthstones and pots |
| 15:29.19 | chutwig | as heavy affliction my main bugabears are rogues and shadow priests |
| 15:29.20 | Thrae | Its hard to tell the stupid players from the smart players, because the smart players have such low expectations |
| 15:29.21 | kebinusan | so fel armor still wins out imo |
| 15:29.31 | chutwig | need to start carrying spellstones around just in case i run into a shadow priest |
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| 15:29.46 | chutwig | wtb new rank of shadow ward |
| 15:29.47 | Thrae | chutwig: Can't Warlocks get very high Shadow resist? |
| 15:30.02 | vhaarr | Thrae: With a felhunter, a demo warlock can get high resists overall |
| 15:30.03 | chutwig | Thrae: if you're demonology and have the felhunter out |
| 15:30.37 | chutwig | i do miss master demonologist |
| 15:30.42 | chutwig | wonderful utility |
| 15:30.56 | vhaarr | don't worry, you'll spec it soon |
| 15:30.57 | kebinusan | I miss the old master conjurer ability |
| 15:30.58 | Thrae | Yeah, sounds like if I played a Warlock, I'd go something like Affliction/Demonology |
| 15:31.09 | chutwig | i'm 44/17 |
| 15:31.11 | tophero | i'm trying to level mine up atm, hit 25 last night |
| 15:31.14 | kebinusan | well not so much anymore but that reduced mana cost on stones was nice back when you had to hand them out manually |
| 15:31.22 | Thrae | err, Demonology/Affliction |
| 15:31.29 | kebinusan | 42/0/19 |
| 15:31.35 | chutwig | previously i was 7/43/11 |
| 15:31.40 | chutwig | which i liked as a compromise spec |
| 15:32.06 | kebinusan | used to be 0/14/47 which I liked alot but just didnt stand up pve w/o heavy healing |
| 15:32.12 | chutwig | my main complaint about being 44/17 is that i have no burst damage at all so i get rolled by classes that have high burst damage capacity |
| 15:32.17 | chutwig | like shadow priests or rogues |
| 15:32.21 | tophero | are either of you in a "raiding" guild? |
| 15:32.33 | kebinusan | ya |
| 15:32.34 | chutwig | we have mag down |
| 15:32.38 | kenlyric_ | "raiding"? |
| 15:32.44 | chutwig | morogrim party on sunday woo |
| 15:32.48 | Thrae | From playing against warlocks as a Feral Druid, only one Warlock gets under my skin -- Warlocks with insanely high absorb potentional (hp+damage reduction) |
| 15:32.49 | tophero | well, seeing as they're are no more 40 mans... |
| 15:32.56 | kebinusan | we're working on mag atm, kind of annoying |
| 15:32.56 | kenlyric_ | lol |
| 15:33.06 | chutwig | feral druids suck when they resist my fear |
| 15:33.11 | Thrae | Anything else are basically "Mages w/ Pets" |
| 15:33.12 | chutwig | if they don't resist the fear then it's a free HK |
| 15:33.13 | kebinusan | thrae feral druids are alot harder now with the stun and gouge |
| 15:33.17 | kenlyric_ | kebinusan: you know what's more annoying than mag? |
| 15:33.22 | kenlyric_ | not being able to work on mag. |
| 15:33.32 | kebinusan | and dont you get like 30% fear resist as feral now or somethin |
| 15:33.38 | chutwig | it can get pretty high |
| 15:33.43 | chutwig | oh, and BM hunters are also quite a handful |
| 15:33.45 | Thrae | kebinusan: You can, yeah. +30% Fear + Stun resists |
| 15:33.49 | chutwig | dot the hunter up and try to run away from the pet |
| 15:34.35 | Thrae | chutwig: Even pre-2.0, I usually got Warlocks down to half health in my first hit, except the ones with the insanely high absorb potential. Those could easily wear me out with all the Fears they could place on me as I try to kill them. |
| 15:34.46 | Thrae | I can only Trinket out of one =/ |
| 15:34.55 | chutwig | i just hate fighting anything undead |
| 15:35.00 | chutwig | the 5-second immunity on wotf is excessive |
| 15:35.21 | shieldb | it's six seconds I thought? |
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| 15:35.25 | chutwig | 5 |
| 15:35.28 | Thrae | Undead should have negative Arcane resistance for their WotF |
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| 15:35.37 | chutwig | which pretty much means i have to use death coil |
| 15:35.48 | chutwig | fear, wotf, death coil, try to land the next fear as wotf wears off |
| 15:36.05 | vhaarr | then clos |
| 15:36.07 | vhaarr | then trinket |
| 15:36.13 | vhaarr | and then wotf is ready again |
| 15:36.30 | Thrae | I've always wondered why they made Undead Forsaken so tough against Warlocks, but removed pretty much all the Paladins advantage over the Undead Forsaken |
| 15:36.32 | kenlyric_ | or, just have your dispeller remove it :) |
| 15:36.45 | vhaarr | Thrae: Or Priest. |
| 15:36.49 | vhaarr | Shackle pls. |
| 15:36.52 | vhaarr | :D |
| 15:36.57 | tophero | lol |
| 15:37.05 | kebinusan | just take away fear and allow us to banish players thnx |
| 15:37.05 | Thrae | vhaarr: Well, Priest would be excessive, there are too many Priests ;) |
| 15:37.09 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 15:37.24 | tophero | yeah but is shackle a holy spell? |
| 15:37.32 | vhaarr | I wouldn't mind being able to shackle them! Of course, that would mean they'd be immune to bleed and such, but meh. |
| 15:37.40 | Thrae | Warlocks should be able to Banish other Warlocks who are using "Soul Link". Makes sense to me! |
| 15:37.52 | chutwig | you can banish the pet |
| 15:37.59 | vhaarr | tophero: Depends what you mean. |
| 15:38.01 | kenlyric_ | shackle is disc |
| 15:38.05 | Thrae | chutwig: Doesn't the pet still take damage while banish'd? |
| 15:38.12 | chutwig | which is standard procedure if you encounter another lock in arena |
| 15:38.19 | vhaarr | kenlyric: Not really. It's in the discipline tab, but all discipline spells are holy. |
| 15:38.21 | chutwig | it's a game to see who death coils the other lock first |
| 15:38.24 | vodrin | death coil hitting an undead target should reset its cooldown |
| 15:38.26 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: Ping |
| 15:38.27 | vhaarr | there's no "discipline school". |
| 15:38.30 | kenlyric_ | vharr, no. |
| 15:38.33 | vodrin | spam it in their face! |
| 15:38.34 | vhaarr | yes |
| 15:38.40 | kenlyric_ | you can't cast holy spells in shadow form. |
| 15:38.42 | chutwig | Thrae: it shouldn't, banish makes it immune to everything |
| 15:38.55 | Thrae | chutwig: So it cancels the effect of Soul Link then |
| 15:38.57 | vhaarr | kenlyric: And if you get counterspelled or bashed from healing, you can't use any disc spells. |
| 15:38.59 | chutwig | Thrae: should do |
| 15:39.07 | vhaarr | kenlyric: Which is so silly it makes me puke. |
| 15:39.23 | Thrae | Druids should be able to remove Shadow spells on their opponents! |
| 15:39.29 | kebinusan | yeah banish cancels soul link while your pet is banished |
| 15:40.00 | chutwig | a demonology warlock with a banished or dead pet is an easy target |
| 15:40.24 | Thrae | I naturally find any Warlock w/ a Felhunter out is usually an easy fight for my Feral Druid |
| 15:40.41 | chutwig | with feral druids it all comes down to whether you resist howl or not |
| 15:40.46 | chutwig | if you don't, i will eat your face |
| 15:41.25 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm can someone explain to me how Dreamchat works? |
| 15:41.42 | Nickenyfiken | No mather what i check in the config menus i get no messages. |
| 15:41.44 | AKX | Dreamchat can't be explained, it has to be experienced. |
| 15:41.50 | AKX | :P |
| 15:42.07 | Thrae | chutwig: Whoops |
| 15:42.08 | AKX | Anyways... I haven't checked the new versions. You may need to have Prat installed. |
| 15:42.12 | Thrae | s/Felhunter/Felguard/ |
| 15:42.22 | chutwig | Thrae: it shouldn't be |
| 15:42.23 | Nickenyfiken | Ya, i have prat installed |
| 15:42.30 | chutwig | if it's an easy fight for you they're not using the felguard well |
| 15:42.33 | Thrae | chutwig: I meant FelGUARD, Felhunter Warlock eats my face |
| 15:42.49 | chutwig | a well-timed intercept from the felguard is insanely powerful |
| 15:43.24 | [Ammo] | as an affliction lock I hate felguard locks with a passion |
| 15:43.27 | [Ammo] | although banish is fun |
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| 15:43.30 | chutwig | you and me both |
| 15:43.36 | chutwig | i was messing around with destro last week |
| 15:43.40 | chutwig | ran into a 65 demo lock |
| 15:43.45 | chutwig | died twice because of intercept :( |
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| 15:43.48 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:43.53 | Thrae | chutwig: Yeah, but it can be hard to pull off unless you don't attack the Druid in melee with the Felguard |
| 15:44.00 | [Ammo] | demo locks are bloody useless in raids luckily |
| 15:44.03 | tophero | felguards usually give me problems as a rogue, especially when they spot me before i can get in close enough |
| 15:44.23 | Thrae | tophero: I think you're thinking of Felhunter. Felhunter == little dog-like guy, Felguard == big-ass demon |
| 15:44.31 | Nickenyfiken | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 15:44.52 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 20m 50s ago, saying: 'i must be tired'. |
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| 15:44.52 | chutwig | Thrae: if they're smart they tell the felguard to stop and try to move away to clear the distance for intercept |
| 15:44.52 | chutwig | that's what i always did |
| 15:44.53 | tophero | nah, i don't usually have a hard time with the felhunter, even with the increased stealth detection |
| 15:45.12 | Thrae | chutwig: Then the Druid has to be stupid and let the Felguard get too far away ;) |
| 15:45.13 | kebinusan | yeah it doesnt help stealth detection that much |
| 15:45.24 | [Ammo] | then again I usually don't pvp solo |
| 15:45.26 | chutwig | Thrae: well, it comes down to whether you want to actually attack the lock or get intercepted |
| 15:45.34 | [Ammo] | I'm either with some warrior or other lock |
| 15:45.44 | [Ammo] | which makes the whole problem a different thing :p |
| 15:45.46 | chutwig | if you're going to stand next to the felguard i'll just have him attack you again and start casting on you |
| 15:45.50 | tophero | but if a lock with guard sees me and sets it on me, the charge is usually enough to keep me from closing effectively |
| 15:45.51 | Thrae | chutwig: Not to mention the Druid can root the Felguard, which doesn't have insane resists like the Felhunter |
| 15:45.55 | CIA-23 | 03Octane666 * r34351 10SpamMeNot/ (. Locale-enUS.lua Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc readme.txt): |
| 15:45.55 | CIA-23 | SpamMeNot: initial commit |
| 15:45.56 | CIA-23 | - SpamMeNot detects and blocks gold spammers before their messages are displayed in the chat windows. |
| 15:46.33 | [Ammo] | how many spamprotection addons can there be |
| 15:46.33 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 15:46.35 | deltron | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/02/addon-spotlight-spamsentry/ |
| 15:46.36 | deltron | :) |
| 15:46.40 | Kaydeethree | heh, I just saw that get posted on the UI forums |
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| 15:46.49 | Bam__ | can never get too many anti-spam programs :) |
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| 15:48.06 | Thrae | There's still a problem w/ how the Battlegrounds are setup and AoE Fear -- you have a chance for 1 guy to occupy 8 guards and steal a base just through Fear |
| 15:48.11 | [Ammo] | this one seems overly complicated atm |
| 15:48.35 | vhaarr | how many authors without IRC can there be? |
| 15:48.40 | deltron | lol |
| 15:48.41 | vhaarr | ~seen octane666 |
| 15:48.59 | purl | vhaarr: i haven't seen 'octane666' |
| 15:49.00 | [Ammo] | that too vhaarr |
| 15:49.00 | kebinusan | thrae pvp trinkets |
| 15:49.00 | deltron | you should make it a requirement to use irc |
| 15:49.00 | vhaarr | deltron: We want to. |
| 15:49.02 | Kaydeethree | meh. players should have their trinkets equipped. I'm a fan of duo-capping gys in AV. I run interference while mounted, my buddy ninja-caps the GY |
| 15:49.08 | kebinusan | the ones with resil only have a 2 minute cooldown |
| 15:49.08 | Bam__ | why? |
| 15:49.14 | vhaarr | deltron: It's just that noone wants to write the SVN precommit hook for it. |
| 15:49.14 | kebinusan | which is so sexy |
| 15:49.25 | Thrae | vhaarr: Sometimes authors on SVN use different names on IRC..."mr. rabbit" |
| 15:49.40 | vhaarr | Thrae: yeah, but come on, a mapping table isn't that hard :) |
| 15:50.10 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.33 | Thrae | Kaydeethree: Well, what I find can be very effective is doing a double AoE Fear. They trinket out of the first with no protection against the second. |
| 15:50.47 | Thrae | Kaydeethree: Need to be properly spaced out, of course. |
| 15:50.53 | Stephmw | Thrae: doesn't work on undead |
| 15:50.54 | hyperChipmunk | ya, my massively useful slow/snare/stun removal trinket...which can't be cast while stunned |
| 15:51.10 | Stephmw | Thrae: but effective on everyone else |
| 15:51.12 | Thrae | Stephmw: I play Alliance, and the Horde does that on us |
| 15:51.14 | kebinusan | most classes will benefit greatly from the pvp trinket changes next patch tho |
| 15:51.39 | hyperChipmunk | how so? |
| 15:51.44 | hyperChipmunk | cuz they cost less? |
| 15:51.46 | Stephmw | Thrae: ahh, then it's mostle a question of having FW being eaten first |
| 15:51.56 | hyperChipmunk | no good for those who have them already |
| 15:51.56 | vodrin | rogues aren't going to stunlock me 100-0% before kidney shot ends |
| 15:51.56 | vodrin | >:| |
| 15:52.04 | Thrae | Stephmw: Dwarven Priests aren't very common on my server, and the last server I played on too ;) |
| 15:52.35 | Thrae | All Dwarves should get Fear Ward...all Undead get WotF |
| 15:52.38 | Stephmw | Thrae: yeah, for some reason people prefer dwarven warriors or pallies |
| 15:52.42 | kebinusan | female dwarves are like rare spawn mobs |
| 15:52.52 | Stephmw | kebinusan: and we're very thankful :D |
| 15:53.08 | Stephmw | Thrae: nahh... all gnomes have escape artist |
| 15:53.09 | tophero | that's cos they're the least attractive model in the game |
| 15:53.14 | hyperChipmunk | dwarf rogues very rare, too |
| 15:53.16 | Zicon | I played a female dwarf priest at one point... |
| 15:53.24 | tophero | i am a dwarf rogue :) |
| 15:53.27 | hyperChipmunk | if you ever see a female dorf rog |
| 15:53.34 | hyperChipmunk | take a screenshot |
| 15:53.49 | kebinusan | stoneform is very nice yeah |
| 15:53.51 | [Ammo] | gnome rogues ftw |
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| 15:53.59 | [Ammo] | escape artist |
| 15:54.00 | hyperChipmunk | i remember dorfs were #1 rog class is EQ; never see them at all in wow |
| 15:54.02 | kebinusan | yeah my rogue is a gnome |
| 15:54.07 | vodrin | we had a female dwarf rogue |
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| 15:54.10 | vodrin | named natali! |
| 15:54.47 | Zicon | hyperchipmunk: My housemate has one of those. |
| 15:54.51 | kebinusan | Any of you seen the mod Duckie Bank |
| 15:54.56 | Thrae | I think CC in PvP should be rethought. Instead of trying to dwindle it down to nothing, there should be a bonus given to the person under the CC. Such as -- when Fear breaks, the victim gains "Fight Or Flight" -- +5% to all damage done for 5 seconds. |
| 15:55.01 | kebinusan | its pretty nice in game guild bank mod |
| 15:55.40 | Thrae | Something like that would require the skill of the player to use properly. |
| 15:55.56 | hyperChipmunk | ...and therein lies the problem |
| 15:56.02 | Thrae | Unlike just making Fear's duration more random. |
| 15:56.12 | hyperChipmunk | dude, can you imagine the forum whinage |
| 15:56.16 | hyperChipmunk | no you cannot |
| 15:56.25 | kebinusan | Im ok with it being random, how about giving stuns the same chance to break on damage as fear |
| 15:56.33 | hyperChipmunk | it is too colossal for the mortal mind to grasp |
| 15:56.34 | Kaydeethree | meh, like general doesn't drop in to a whinefest at a drop of a hat |
| 15:56.49 | hyperChipmunk | hat dropping is fine l2p |
| 15:56.53 | kebinusan | so many chicken little threads |
| 15:57.24 | Thrae | kebinusan: We can nerf Rogue stunlock without horribly nerfing Paladins ;) |
| 15:58.47 | Thrae | A lot of people miss the point about Fear and other CC effects. If Fear lasts too long overall, that's bad because there's nothing you can do except use up a Trinket you can only use every 5 minutes (pre 70 trinket). If Fear breaks too randomly, that's also bad because there's nothing you can do to improve your odds. |
| 15:59.28 | Thrae | There should be a way to get out of everything with enough skill and tactics. |
| 15:59.50 | [Ammo] | luckily WoW pvp is non-penalty pvp |
| 15:59.51 | Megalon | YOU GOT FEAR, SMASH THE 'A' BUTTON TO RECOVER!!!! |
| 15:59.54 | Megalon | *smash smash* |
| 15:59.56 | [Ammo] | so it all doesn't matter _that_ much |
| 16:00.20 | Tornhoof | you played god of war megalon :D |
| 16:00.20 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Except I find PvE boring half the time ;) |
| 16:00.25 | kebinusan | I think they are starting to get the right idea with alternate effects on gear though |
| 16:00.26 | Tornhoof | i would add a break dialog box |
| 16:00.27 | [Ammo] | I find it quite cool with friends on ventrilo |
| 16:00.34 | [Ammo] | but a big bore without ventrilo |
| 16:00.37 | Tornhoof | which actually flees from your mouse pointer on the screen |
| 16:00.47 | [Ammo] | solo but chatting with people on vent wow is very enjoyable |
| 16:01.04 | kebinusan | Im a violent person in pvp, it reminds me counterstrike because there is just such a huge lack of a RPS aspect to it |
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| 16:01.32 | kebinusan | As for any class being cc'd from 100% to dead is frustrating |
| 16:02.02 | Megalon | yea tornhoof ;D |
| 16:02.21 | Megalon | "Break fear! [OK]" radomly moving around every OnUpdate :P |
| 16:02.40 | Thrae | There should be trinkets which can get you out of any form of CC, but it gives a harsh penalty. |
| 16:02.49 | Thrae | In addition to the "PvP Trinket". |
| 16:02.54 | kebinusan | actually the biggest thing I have a problem with in pvp though is that melee classes have enough ways to interrupt spellcasts that they do not need the ability to do so by clipping through player models |
| 16:03.38 | Thrae | Like, -50% damage or healing done for 1 minute. |
| 16:03.51 | chutwig | dear apple if you do not give me my computer back today i will think Bad Things about you |
| 16:04.26 | yacoob | chutwig, write to Jobs, it helps :) |
| 16:04.27 | kebinusan | make arena matches best out of 3 and dont reset cooldowns between matches |
| 16:05.13 | chutwig | yacoob: that is only reserved for instances when apple is being mean, not necessarily just lazy |
| 16:05.13 | CIA-23 | 03Octane666 * r34352 10SpamMeNot/: |
| 16:05.13 | CIA-23 | SpamMeNot: |
| 16:05.13 | CIA-23 | - Added externals |
| 16:05.38 | Thrae | kebinusan: A group of Warlocks would have a good chance to win on the final match then, when everyone's cooldowns expire and they can Fear lock you |
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| 16:05.52 | Thrae | kebinusan: Warlocks + Priests that is |
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| 16:06.25 | kebinusan | fear does have a diminishing return |
| 16:06.31 | kebinusan | blind however, does not :-/ |
| 16:06.41 | deltron | hah |
| 16:06.44 | deltron | it has a cooldown |
| 16:06.47 | chutwig | blind makes me go :raaaar: |
| 16:06.57 | chutwig | fought this rogue/mage team twice |
| 16:07.01 | nuoHep | well, blinf has 1.5min cd |
| 16:07.07 | chutwig | i pop perception, see the rogue incoming, get sapped as i try to howl |
| 16:07.12 | chutwig | as soon as sap wears off i get blinded |
| 16:07.16 | chutwig | and am out of the fight for a full 22 seconds |
| 16:07.20 | kebinusan | and deathcoil has a 2 min CD and its getting a DR in 2.1 |
| 16:07.38 | Thrae | Blind has an effect like Scattershot, right? |
| 16:07.40 | kebinusan | yeah rogue rogue with sap/blind/blind is the worst in 2v2 |
| 16:07.41 | chutwig | the DR will wear off by itself before the cooldown wraps |
| 16:07.54 | chutwig | it's just to combat all-warlock 3v teams that chain death coil somebody |
| 16:07.56 | Thrae | "Confusion" effect |
| 16:07.59 | Kody- | [09:06] <chutwig> i pop perception, see the rogue incoming, get sapped as i try to howl <--- piercing howl or howl of terror? |
| 16:08.08 | chutwig | i think they call it disorient now |
| 16:08.12 | chutwig | Kody-: howl of terror |
| 16:08.14 | kebinusan | chutwig: same is true for blind |
| 16:08.15 | Kody- | ah |
| 16:08.20 | chutwig | like i get sapped right as i hit the key |
| 16:08.30 | chutwig | because of positioning lag and not spotting them in stealth until it's too late |
| 16:08.31 | kebinusan | it'd only really affect multi rogue teams |
| 16:08.36 | nuoHep | blind is a disorient and a posion |
| 16:08.46 | Thrae | Ah, Blind can be cured |
| 16:08.51 | nuoHep | yes |
| 16:08.51 | chutwig | you can also stoneform out of it |
| 16:08.57 | chutwig | oh how i wish i could have made a dwarf warlock |
| 16:09.08 | chutwig | that would've been all kinds of awesome |
| 16:09.19 | Thrae | No wonder Rogues never use Blind on my Druid |
| 16:09.29 | Thrae | I just cure poisons so quickly I forget what they used on me |
| 16:09.30 | nuoHep | i remember feamle dwarf mages in black shadoweave back in the beta days |
| 16:09.40 | chutwig | i wonder why they removed dwarf mage |
| 16:09.44 | Tornhoof | actually they are dumb not to do it currently thra |
| 16:09.44 | Tornhoof | e |
| 16:09.48 | Tornhoof | since it's still bugged |
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| 16:10.01 | Thrae | Tornhoof: Bugged? How? |
| 16:10.15 | Tornhoof | nm |
| 16:10.16 | Iceroth | you can't cure the poison once you are blinded though.. |
| 16:10.21 | Tornhoof | it does not apply to blind |
| 16:10.24 | chutwig | you can stoneform out of it while blinded |
| 16:10.26 | chutwig | that's about it |
| 16:10.32 | kebinusan | abolish poison tho |
| 16:10.33 | Tornhoof | just for poisons on weapons |
| 16:10.34 | kebinusan | if you're a druid |
| 16:10.37 | chutwig | yeah |
| 16:10.41 | tophero | if you already have it up |
| 16:11.11 | deltron | did they ever fix that issue with rogue poisons being applied at the weapon level? |
| 16:11.17 | Tornhoof | 2.1 |
| 16:11.18 | chutwig | yeah |
| 16:11.24 | chutwig | it's incoming |
| 16:11.32 | deltron | that was annoying |
| 16:11.36 | CIA-23 | 03fleetfoot * r34353 10LittleTrouble/libs/: |
| 16:11.37 | CIA-23 | LittleTrouble: |
| 16:11.37 | CIA-23 | - Added missing lib |
| 16:11.47 | chutwig | i wish UA were exempt from the contagion +30% dispel resist |
| 16:11.51 | Thrae | I need go to run off to work now |
| 16:12.09 | Tornhoof | it's ridiculous that they needed 3 patches to fix it |
| 16:12.24 | chutwig | arcane missiles anyone |
| 16:12.32 | chutwig | having been fixed for about the 18th time now since release |
| 16:12.47 | chutwig | i look forward to it still losing pulses |
| 16:13.07 | Kaydeethree | you too? |
| 16:13.17 | chutwig | it always loses one |
| 16:13.23 | Kaydeethree | ya |
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| 16:14.21 | chutwig | pewwmp... pew... pewwpewwpewwmp |
| 16:14.23 | tophero | lol, arcane missiles have always either made me laugh or frutstrated me |
| 16:14.25 | Tornhoof | pulsing is complicated in wow |
| 16:14.35 | Tornhoof | due to buggy tine sync |
| 16:14.38 | chutwig | i only use it anyway when up against something with high fire resist |
| 16:14.50 | Kaydeethree | the fact that it does the LoS check on every single pulse makes it even more annoying |
| 16:15.07 | tophero | gah, evolving ectoplasms in WC |
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| 16:28.49 | UE|Daemona | is ACP buggy? |
| 16:29.31 | UE|Daemona | it doesnt disable addons when i tell it to do so, i disable addons, save the compilation, disable all, load the compilation, reload ui and there are addons enabled, that should be disabled :/ |
| 16:29.48 | UE|Daemona | or any suggestion for another addon that does ingame addon management |
| 16:30.15 | Fisker- | ARGH |
| 16:30.20 | Fisker- | POSTAL SERVICES DIES |
| 16:30.27 | Fisker- | i'm gonna kill them :( |
| 16:30.36 | Fisker- | Now i have to wait until monday to get my hardware |
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| 16:32.23 | Hjalte | Okay, I know i have asked this before, but removing the blocktrade option in my config.wtf file didnt fix Postals Block trade bug. Does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 16:35.20 | stavmar | Hjalte: when does it block trades, i have never had that issue and I have been using postal for a while? |
| 16:36.17 | Hjalte | stavmar, it begins once i have checked my mails. There seems to be a security feature built in, that block trades while you check mail, but for me, it doesnt disable when i go away from the mailbox. |
| 16:36.34 | stavmar | interesting... |
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| 16:36.55 | hyperChipmunk | it might disable alt-click trading |
| 16:37.01 | stavmar | I will look out for it, I really have never had the issue... |
| 16:37.10 | CIA-23 | 03Octane666 * r34354 10SpamMeNot/ (Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc): |
| 16:37.10 | CIA-23 | SpamMeNot: |
| 16:37.10 | CIA-23 | - Updated .toc file with correct header |
| 16:37.10 | CIA-23 | - Added comments to source |
| 16:37.24 | Fisker- | aaah man vhaarr |
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| 16:37.54 | vhaarr | sup |
| 16:38.23 | Fisker- | you countered my plot |
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| 16:39.14 | Amadeo | bleh, wtt Warrior for any other class :P |
| 16:39.52 | Fisker- | Does Nvidia's SLI actually work with ATi cards? |
| 16:40.05 | Tornhoof | no thats why it's called Nvidia |
| 16:40.09 | UE|Daemona | -.- |
| 16:40.14 | Tornhoof | crossfire is the ati clone |
| 16:40.19 | Fisker- | hahahahaha |
| 16:40.32 | Fisker- | I'm still amazed by the stupidity of some people |
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| 16:41.04 | tophero | ah, it's postal that's doing the block trades thing? |
| 16:41.06 | Amadeo | I use Voodoo2 SLI |
| 16:41.09 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 16:41.17 | Fisker- | This guy ordered a Athlon 64 3800+, 4GB (DDR2-667), 2xATi x1600 Pro (with hypermemory(even more lol)) |
| 16:41.34 | Fisker- | with an nforce based motherboard |
| 16:41.49 | tophero | lol |
| 16:42.09 | Funkeh` | LOL |
| 16:42.10 | Fisker- | I don't even remember if Athlon 64 came around to supporting DDR2 |
| 16:42.24 | tophero | he's in for a surprise then |
| 16:42.34 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:42.38 | tophero | wish i could see that when he tries to put them all together |
| 16:42.39 | Amadeo | maybe he thought he was ordering Dance Dance Revolution 2 |
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| 16:43.00 | Tornhoof | maybe he just needs it for 4 displays |
| 16:43.07 | Tornhoof | not crossfire/sli |
| 16:43.59 | Fisker- | nope :P |
| 16:47.14 | Kemayo | Ordog: How were you adding the quest to the watcher? |
| 16:49.51 | Amadeo | Creative is competing with the Shuffle |
| 16:49.55 | Amadeo | http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=16424 |
| 16:51.18 | Fisker- | I was very merciful |
| 16:51.28 | Fisker- | I just told him his computer was totally sloppy |
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| 16:51.29 | Fisker- | ! |
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| 16:55.21 | tophero | what'd he say back? |
| 16:55.46 | Kirkburn | Personally, I wouldn't go for an A64 atm anyway |
| 16:55.53 | CIA-23 | 03kemayo * r34355 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Bugfix for non-Quixote case in party quests. |
| 16:56.06 | Fisker- | tophero it's a forum P: |
| 16:56.07 | Fisker- | >P |
| 16:56.09 | Fisker- | :P |
| 16:56.10 | Kirkburn | AMD seem to be stuck in the old Intel "ramp up the MHz" mode for the mo |
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| 16:56.36 | Fisker- | yup :( |
| 16:57.24 | tophero | oh sorry, didn't realize you were responding on a forum :sheepish: |
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| 17:07.29 | Antiarc|Work | ~seen TheKarn |
| 17:07.42 | purl | thekarn is currently on #wowace (2d 17m 46s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 19h 39m 40s, last said: 'sylvanaar, it alreadyis shit'. |
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| 17:17.41 | Fisker- | man Antiarc|Work |
| 17:17.41 | Fisker- | You insult my browser! |
| 17:17.41 | Antiarc|Work | Eh? |
| 17:17.41 | Fisker- | "Best viewed with Firefox 2" :( |
| 17:17.42 | Antiarc|Work | It is! |
| 17:17.58 | Antiarc|Work | Or anything CSS 2-compliant really |
| 17:17.59 | Antiarc|Work | But I developed it in Firefox, and that's the only one I'll certify :D |
| 17:18.04 | deltron | just like armory |
| 17:18.11 | deltron | which is broken on anything but windows |
| 17:18.12 | deltron | heh |
| 17:19.03 | Antiarc|Work | But see, mine is free and open source so I have an excuse :D |
| 17:19.45 | deltron | what is it? |
| 17:20.12 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ |
| 17:20.17 | Antiarc|Work | My various armory tools |
| 17:20.37 | deltron | ahh |
| 17:20.57 | Fisker- | Would be cool if you would like SIMPLIFY :P |
| 17:21.21 | Fisker- | needs moar config.php |
| 17:21.51 | deltron | i'll try to get it running on my site |
| 17:22.02 | deltron | my coworkers guildmate has a couple neat armory tools |
| 17:23.03 | ashai|hc | Fisker-: ill insult your browser if you like :P |
| 17:23.38 | deltron | it works in links |
| 17:23.55 | Fisker- | Should work in all browsers almost :P |
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| 17:25.29 | deltron | works in w3m heh |
| 17:25.35 | deltron | i much prefer links |
| 17:25.44 | deltron | since i can use it like a real browser heh |
| 17:26.00 | ashai|hc | lol links |
| 17:26.10 | Nickenyfiken | Antiarc|Work: cool tools! |
| 17:26.34 | deltron | links is the shiz |
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| 17:26.45 | deltron | armory needs to show recipe's |
| 17:26.58 | Antiarc|Work | I actually use links quite a bit :) |
| 17:29.06 | Antiarc|Work | Fisker-: It's pretty configurable already :P |
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| 17:29.29 | Amadeo | is there a list anywhere of the new PvP rewards and values for 2.1? |
| 17:29.37 | Amadeo | er, not new rewards, just values :P |
| 17:29.45 | Elkano | Nickenyfiken, any news on trainer merging? |
| 17:29.56 | Fisker- | So is it possible to disable the coral cdn and only allow predefined referers? |
| 17:30.05 | Elkano | Amadeo, mmo-champion maybe? |
| 17:30.07 | Fisker- | plus of course some kind of cache "cooldown" :P |
| 17:30.08 | Antiarc|Work | Fisker-: Yup, that's in sig.ini |
| 17:30.13 | Fisker- | :O |
| 17:30.17 | Fisker- | then i'm doing it wrong |
| 17:30.21 | Fisker- | or you changed something lately |
| 17:30.22 | Amadeo | Elkano: I will try, thanks :) |
| 17:30.35 | Antiarc|Work | OKReferer=tachyonsix\.com |
| 17:30.40 | Antiarc|Work | That's just a regex |
| 17:30.48 | Fisker- | regex ;( |
| 17:30.53 | Fisker- | do not want etc. |
| 17:30.57 | Fisker- | :P |
| 17:30.58 | Antiarc|Work | Regexes are awesome. |
| 17:31.01 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 17:31.03 | Nickenyfiken | Elkano: Uuh well i don't know if im satisfied with the branch :-P |
| 17:31.08 | Fisker- | Not so awesome when you haven't learned it yet :) |
| 17:31.28 | Fisker- | How does the cache works with Coral CDN disabled? |
| 17:31.36 | Antiarc|Work | What do you mean? |
| 17:31.53 | Fisker- | Will it refresh the sig each time it's accessed or each 12 hours like the coral cdn? |
| 17:32.11 | Antiarc|Work | No, 12 hours. That's set in _armory.php |
| 17:32.16 | Fisker- | alright |
| 17:32.25 | Antiarc|Work | Because hitting the armory every time you hit the sig.php file is not polite. |
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| 17:32.38 | Fisker- | ^^ |
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| 17:33.45 | Elkano | Amadeo: http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/bigpost/pvprewards.jpg |
| 17:33.59 | Fisker- | sup Elkano |
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| 17:34.11 | Amadeo | thanks Elkano :) |
| 17:34.43 | Fisker- | so sig_config.ini gets renamed to sig.ini before i load it up or what Antiarc|Work? |
| 17:34.52 | Antiarc|Work | No, it's sig_config.ini, sorry |
| 17:35.00 | Fisker- | alright |
| 17:35.01 | Antiarc|Work | I haven't looked at the filetree in a bit :) |
| 17:36.40 | Fisker- | Do i use both sql schemas or only the cached one? |
| 17:38.05 | Antiarc|Work | Uhhhh...both, I think |
| 17:38.05 | Antiarc|Work | They're separate because I wanted the cache/traffic DB separate for maintenance purposes |
| 17:38.05 | Antiarc|Work | It's a lot more expendable and a lot larger. |
| 17:38.21 | Fisker- | alright |
| 17:38.50 | Fisker- | Some easy way to disable the different modules? |
| 17:38.57 | Antiarc|Work | Like what? |
| 17:39.07 | Antiarc|Work | Just comment out the links to them from the index page, I guess |
| 17:39.14 | Fisker- | hmm yeah |
| 17:39.41 | Fisker- | You'll have to work on some enabling and disabling and perhaps even forcing of output |
| 17:39.52 | Gnarfoz | zomg it's not LoD! ;d |
| 17:40.11 | Fisker- | Can i use more than one referer or am i going to have to use a bigger scope in my regex? :I |
| 17:40.12 | Antiarc|Work | It's open source so that other people can do the work that I don't want to do. ;) |
| 17:40.21 | snirks | they dont show for SSC |
| 17:40.24 | Antiarc|Work | (referrer\.com|otherreferrer\.com) |
| 17:40.31 | snirks | but they complain when there's no Karazhan raid |
| 17:40.34 | snirks | i hate casuals |
| 17:40.37 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 17:40.40 | Antiarc|Work | Or just (referrer|otherreferrer)\.com |
| 17:40.51 | Antiarc|Work | Assuming they both share the same TLD |
| 17:42.02 | Fisker- | Localization btw! |
| 17:42.03 | Fisker- | :P |
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| 17:44.06 | Fisker- | Think i figured it out now |
| 17:44.09 | Fisker- | *crosses fingers* |
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| 17:46.01 | Elkano | need a new shirt? http://www.3dsupply.de/3d/img/produkte/00001923.jpg |
| 17:46.12 | Fisker- | btw isn't it your google ads i'm using? :P |
| 17:46.30 | Varak | hey everyone - Im looking for an addon that summs up rating stats on items and sums them up to % of crit/dodge etc. |
| 17:46.38 | kergoth | RatingBuster does that |
| 17:46.40 | Fisker- | Ratingbuster |
| 17:46.41 | Elkano | RatingBuster |
| 17:46.45 | Fisker- | noooo kergoth |
| 17:46.46 | Fisker- | curse you |
| 17:46.48 | kergoth | :P |
| 17:46.53 | Varak | yay thanks |
| 17:48.23 | Punkie` | erm RatingBuster |
| 17:48.45 | Varak | since you have been so swit can you recomend me some SWstatish thinige for ace? |
| 17:49.04 | Fisker- | nothing yet sorry |
| 17:49.09 | Punkie` | Violation |
| 17:49.14 | Punkie` | Ammo fixed it today so it works :) |
| 17:49.54 | Varak | I tried Violation but it wasnt doing all the stuff I want it to do |
| 17:49.54 | Fisker- | oh |
| 17:49.59 | Varak | thanks anyway |
| 17:50.49 | tophero | what do you need it to do? |
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| 17:52.06 | Varak | well break up dmg done into skills it came from - track overhealing by different spells etc |
| 17:52.32 | kergoth | try KombatStats for that, at least for personal damage details |
| 17:52.39 | kergoth | i use kombatstats+swstats personally |
| 17:52.58 | Varak | thanks Ill chceck it out |
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| 17:54.33 | Varak | oh and since I started new pally - anyone got some must have mods for tankadins to mention? (btw PowerAuras <3 ) |
| 17:55.21 | kergoth | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full2342.jpg - shot of kombatstats |
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| 17:56.35 | kebinusan | I just use nanostats during and then run wowwebstats afterewards |
| 17:57.55 | Fisker- | stats are for whores |
| 17:57.55 | deltron | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18470220/ |
| 17:57.57 | Fisker- | whores like me |
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| 17:58.21 | CIA-23 | 03Octane666 * r34356 10SpamMeNot/SpamMeNot.toc: |
| 17:58.21 | CIA-23 | SpamMeNot: |
| 17:58.21 | CIA-23 | - Updated .toc to show the author as my wowace.com name |
| 17:59.11 | kebinusan | Fisker-: creative |
| 17:59.34 | kebinusan | if they had killed him it wouldnt have made the news tho |
| 18:01.34 | Varak | Fisker: yup but I dont usestats to flex (dont have skill/gear/proper chars for that) - im just curious .) |
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| 18:02.04 | fatbrain | any druidbar like addon for aguf? |
| 18:02.38 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34357 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Change sort order. |
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| 18:04.08 | Jens | You think anyone would mind if I made a commit to Rep2? |
| 18:05.03 | Hjalte | Whoops. Can i reset the MT list in oRA2 somehow? |
| 18:05.20 | fatbrain | reset? |
| 18:05.30 | fatbrain | just remove em one by one |
| 18:05.30 | deltron | just click the slots you don't want filled |
| 18:06.28 | kebinusan | Anyone know a decent mod to assign people what groups to buff or somethin, like randomply pick priests/druids/mages assign them groups to buff |
| 18:06.42 | kebinusan | or even manual I guess, but Im trying to be lazy atm |
| 18:07.09 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: any reason hydross doesnt have a range check in bigwigs? :) |
| 18:07.27 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: should it? I've never been there |
| 18:07.35 | kebinusan | I still dont understand why curator does :-) |
| 18:07.36 | Cryect | not really |
| 18:07.43 | nevcairiel | in the water phase, you have to be aprox 8y away from others |
| 18:07.46 | nevcairiel | or it jumps over |
| 18:07.47 | vhaarr | kebinusan: indeed |
| 18:07.54 | Cryect | need 5 yd seperation is all |
| 18:07.56 | Hjalte | I'd like to reset the position of the MT list. I can't reach the name anchor any more :\ |
| 18:08.00 | shieldb | kebinusan, I guess maybe for the adds that have the chain lightning aura? |
| 18:08.11 | kebinusan | shieldb: it hits a max of like 3 targets |
| 18:08.13 | Cryect | If you need a mod to say spread out slightly >_> |
| 18:08.38 | kebinusan | or at least I thought so, I could be wrong I guess |
| 18:08.48 | shieldb | I'm not sure myself, it does seem pretty silly |
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| 18:09.09 | shieldb | it's not like it goes up in damage every jump or anything either |
| 18:09.46 | kergoth | does dreamchat actually do anything? i enable message types in its window but nothing shows up there |
| 18:10.18 | Saroz | WTB violation code |
| 18:10.41 | kergoth | wtb violation that listens to damagemeters and swstats comm |
| 18:10.42 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i dont think a proxy check could hurt on hydross. a simple 10y interact distance thing imho |
| 18:11.16 | Gnarfoz | wtb violation that listens in and speaks in both dialects |
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| 18:12.04 | Saroz | WTB violation code |
| 18:12.26 | Jens | I'll violate you, Gnarfoz. For a fee. |
| 18:12.45 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i would even add it if you give the ok. :) |
| 18:12.54 | Gnarfoz | Jens: no way, I can get that for free anyway ^^ |
| 18:13.32 | Jens | You haven't had violation until you've been... nevermind. |
| 18:13.51 | Gnarfoz | I don't think I wanna know |
| 18:14.12 | pastamancer | is there a way to disable the bigwigs proximity window on curator? I don't want to have to keep closing it every time |
| 18:14.12 | Gnarfoz | Saroz would like to, tho, I guess |
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| 18:14.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
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| 18:16.17 | Gagorian | Well we've killed Hydross several times and never even considered needing to worry about proximity |
| 18:16.46 | nevcairiel | we havent killed him, and our people always get water tombed |
| 18:17.17 | Tornhoof | stand further apart |
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| 18:19.57 | testtheircguy | does Ace have a addon that is close to AdvancedTradeskill Windo |
| 18:20.00 | testtheircguy | window |
| 18:20.04 | Gagorian | It's not chain or anything.. 8 yards around one randomly target person |
| 18:20.15 | Gagorian | so with decent spreading it won't be a big deal |
| 18:20.24 | nevcairiel | just saying, it would help our raid |
| 18:20.38 | nevcairiel | plus you can turn it off if you dont want it |
| 18:20.48 | Gagorian | Well, default disabled then tbh |
| 18:21.06 | AKX | kergoth: sorry for the late reply (in bm atm), there seems to be some bug in the latest rev of dreamchat that prevents all messages to be shown |
| 18:21.22 | nevcairiel | just waiting for a response from Mr. BigWigs :p |
| 18:21.25 | Gagorian | A shaman can chain healing the tombs is the most efficient counter |
| 18:21.37 | CIA-23 | 03zalkalin * r34358 10Rep2/Rep2.lua: |
| 18:21.37 | CIA-23 | Rep2: |
| 18:21.37 | CIA-23 | - math.floor -> math.ceil. Repetitions are no longer one off. |
| 18:21.38 | Gagorian | -can |
| 18:21.52 | testtheircguy | oh yes thanks for proximity window in BigWigs..helped during maiden... did not see it during curator..but maybe was disabled |
| 18:22.20 | Gagorian | It's pretty much useless on curator anyway :p |
| 18:22.42 | testtheircguy | not for initial placement if you are doing the spread out method |
| 18:22.49 | vhaarr | pastamancer: just click the X |
| 18:23.08 | vhaarr | pastamancer: or go to the boss options -> "Proximity display" |
| 18:23.27 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: response on what? |
| 18:23.53 | pastamancer | vhaarr: I'll have to take a closer look at the options the next time I'm in-game |
| 18:24.18 | pastamancer | vhaarr: I recall having clicked the X and then had the window pop-up on the next attempt |
| 18:24.24 | vhaarr | pastamancer: clicking the X in the proximity display will actually also toggle it off permanently for that boss |
| 18:24.31 | vhaarr | pastamancer: then you're using an older version |
| 18:24.51 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: if you or anyone would mind if i add a proxymity to hydross - possibly disabled by default. |
| 18:24.54 | pastamancer | vhaarr: I have been. I'll update |
| 18:24.58 | vhaarr | pastamancer: cool |
| 18:25.02 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: well |
| 18:25.06 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I've never done him |
| 18:25.11 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: so I can't really say |
| 18:25.22 | vhaarr | although ammo added a proximity display to curator, so he'll do it with any boss |
| 18:25.25 | vhaarr | just ask him :P |
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| 18:26.14 | Elkano | ok, scanning about 10k items with ItemBonusLib takes some seconds but seems to not disconnect you <3 |
| 18:26.14 | nevcairiel | in his water phase he shoots water tombs on random people, people 8y around that person get tombed too |
| 18:26.14 | nevcairiel | thats all :) |
| 18:26.22 | nevcairiel | plus that tomb kills you in 100% and above |
| 18:26.32 | nevcairiel | if you dont get healed in between |
| 18:26.45 | NeoTron | So other than nightbane, are there any other (known) boss encounters wheer fearward is useful? |
| 18:26.57 | Fisker- | _EACH AND EVERY ONE_ |
| 18:26.59 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:27.08 | JoshBorke | nef |
| 18:27.11 | JoshBorke | ony |
| 18:27.14 | testtheircguy | 1st boss in shadowlab fears...but thats not bigwigs really is it |
| 18:27.34 | testtheircguy | Anyone know if ace has a Tradeskillwindow type addon that has the same functionality? |
| 18:27.47 | NeoTron | well _current_ raid bosses |
| 18:27.49 | Fisker- | Fear ward is OP though |
| 18:27.51 | _neuron_ | anyone got any action bar like mods that hides buttons when they are unavailable, I'm thinking buttons that show based on set criteria (for example tell me when I can execute/tell me to rebuff rampage etc) |
| 18:28.01 | NeoTron | don't care too much about old 40-mans or 5-man encounters |
| 18:28.01 | Fisker- | should have a 1 second tick time before removing fear |
| 18:28.11 | JoshBorke | nef and ony are still in the game ;-) |
| 18:28.18 | NeoTron | yeah but irrelevant |
| 18:28.18 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: so i got redirected from vhaarr to you :P I would want a proxy check on Hydross, i would even implement it, all i need is a Ok :) |
| 18:28.18 | syeren | NeoTron, Fear Ward can be useful on Magtheridon. |
| 18:28.22 | syeren | But the boss doesn't do it. |
| 18:28.22 | Fisker- | gb2/warlock/ _neuron_ :o |
| 18:28.23 | JoshBorke | _neuron_: you can't do that in combat |
| 18:28.26 | syeren | And it isn't on a timer. |
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| 18:28.33 | NeoTron | for the trash you mean? |
| 18:28.34 | syeren | But it is useful on your healers / rogues ;p |
| 18:28.38 | syeren | For phase one. |
| 18:28.40 | _neuron_ | JoshBorke, I'm not talking about "real" buttons, they dont have to be clickable ;) |
| 18:28.41 | syeren | Of Magtheridon ;p |
| 18:28.43 | _neuron_ | Fisker-, ? |
| 18:28.43 | syeren | The Channelers ;p |
| 18:28.47 | Fisker- | fear on magtheridon isn't a big deal imo |
| 18:28.50 | NeoTron | ah didn't know they feared |
| 18:28.51 | Elkano | damn, ItemBonusLib doesn't scan for weapon damage and speed :/ |
| 18:28.55 | Fisker- | don't you have a warlock _neuron_? :o |
| 18:29.00 | NeoTron | but you can't really fearward "a raid" |
| 18:29.02 | _neuron_ | Fisker-, I also have a warrior |
| 18:29.11 | Fisker- | yeah, play the warlock instead :P |
| 18:31.31 | kergoth | _neuron_: infinibar can do something like that, via coloring the buttons if the buff is already on the target, etc. i doubt it does everything you want, but.. |
| 18:31.43 | _neuron_ | kergoth, hm, thanks, I'll check it out anyway. |
| 18:32.30 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r34359 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: Hydross - tweaked deDE locale to resemble the enUS |
| 18:32.32 | kergoth | i know flexbar2 does the same stuff infinibar does, the latter took it from the former |
| 18:32.37 | kergoth | (wrt the coloring) |
| 18:36.38 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts9QnNWaMnw <-FAIL |
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| 18:38.15 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.26 | kergoth | JoshBorke: <3 loottracker btw |
| 18:38.48 | Elkano | the author of ItemBonusLib isn't on IRC, is he? |
| 18:39.03 | Gagorian | Nope |
| 18:39.08 | Gagorian | ~seen Jerry |
| 18:39.39 | purl | jerry <n=jerry@p508BE3C3.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 107d 16h 20m 5s ago, saying: 'abrotman: please part.'. |
| 18:39.39 | Gagorian | Well, I've never seen him :p |
| 18:40.17 | deltron | ~seen znarl |
| 18:40.24 | purl | i haven't seen 'znarl', deltron |
| 18:40.38 | deltron | that's because he's ubuntu! |
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| 18:40.59 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34360 10Violation/modules/ (6 files): Violation: Bugfix. |
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| 18:42.25 | Hjalte | A mate of mine just experienced Bigwigs suddenly stopping on Hydross. He didnt have the completely newest version though, so i just made him update. |
| 18:44.17 | kenlyric_ | well, he is unstable |
| 18:44.42 | Elkano | author of SpamSentry isn't either, is (s)he? |
| 18:44.49 | yacoob | kenlyric_, friend or Hydross? :) |
| 18:44.57 | kenlyric_ | hydross |
| 18:45.00 | kenlyric_ | isn't that his name? |
| 18:45.00 | Hjalte | lol |
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| 18:49.34 | Tornhoof | hehe |
| 18:50.16 | JoshBorke | kergoth: ok |
| 18:50.21 | JoshBorke | i've got a bug to fix in it anyway |
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| 18:52.01 | Chosi | is there a ktm addon that gives audio alerts? |
| 18:52.30 | Matrix110 | wrong place for this |
| 18:53.40 | Chosi | uhh i'm talking about a nonace2 addon |
| 18:53.40 | Chosi | shame on me! |
| 18:54.18 | hyperChipmunk | burn the infidel! |
| 18:57.02 | Morghus | Noone expects the spani... *is muffled* |
| 18:57.21 | Gale | spani..marshmallow cookies? |
| 18:57.38 | deltron | http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/03/virtual-dog-walking-nintendogs-has-nothing-on-this/ |
| 18:57.41 | deltron | lol |
| 18:58.29 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r34361 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: Hydross - another deDE tweak |
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| 19:06.37 | Fisker- | y helo thar nymbia |
| 19:07.21 | nymbia | SUP Fisker- |
| 19:07.30 | Fisker- | target aquired |
| 19:07.57 | Fisker- | shouldn't be mad at you though :( |
| 19:08.06 | Fisker- | Should be mad at my postal services for failing to deliver! |
| 19:08.15 | nymbia | what'd you not get./ |
| 19:08.45 | Fisker- | my RAM |
| 19:08.56 | Fisker- | No koreans appeared at my domicile to upgrade it |
| 19:09.35 | nymbia | :( |
| 19:09.46 | harldephin | oh my. .. |
| 19:10.09 | Fisker- | So have to wait until monday to get it :( |
| 19:10.11 | Fisker- | Holiday tomorrow |
| 19:18.06 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34362 10Talismonger-3.0/Talismonger-3.0/Talismonger-3.0.lua: |
| 19:18.06 | CIA-23 | Talismonger-3.0: |
| 19:18.06 | CIA-23 | - Optimize event handling. |
| 19:24.34 | Saroz | WTB violation code! |
| 19:24.36 | Saroz | :) |
| 19:24.48 | nymbia | i'll violate your code! |
| 19:24.52 | nymbia | ..or something |
| 19:25.52 | Saroz | dirty |
| 19:26.49 | nymbia | you know it |
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| 19:28.11 | beerke | anyone can tell me how to manual enable bw proximity window ? |
| 19:30.14 | vhaarr | beerke: Toggle the option in the boss options. |
| 19:30.35 | kergoth | i have an idea for a cart waypoints modification... |
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| 19:30.43 | beerke | hydross does not have atoggle ! |
| 19:30.54 | beerke | pfft nvm |
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| 19:30.57 | kergoth | when i start moving in a direction thats increasing the time itll take to get there continually (i passed the destination...), beep at me |
| 19:30.59 | beerke | vant oggle from anotehr boss ;P |
| 19:31.00 | vhaarr | He doesn't have a proximity set either, someone needs to add it. |
| 19:31.07 | vhaarr | You can't just toggle it on and expect it to work. |
| 19:31.09 | kergoth | so when i use autorun and i'm flying, i dont end up like 3 zones past where i was going |
| 19:31.17 | vhaarr | It needs to know how to check the distance. |
| 19:31.56 | Antiarc|Work | ~seen TheKarn |
| 19:32.09 | purl | thekarn is currently on #wowace (2d 2h 42m 13s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 22h 4m 7s, last said: 'sylvanaar, it alreadyis shit'. |
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| 19:34.52 | CIA-23 | 03evilelvis * r34363 10eePanels/ (core.lua guidePanel.lua): eePanels: added more commments |
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| 20:05.07 | pastamancer | hooray: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=67898311&pageNo=1&sid=1#7 |
| 20:05.49 | nymbia | nice :) |
| 20:09.11 | nevcairiel | did someone actually fix up paintball for 2.0 ? :D |
| 20:10.11 | Fisker- | Who uses grid lol? |
| 20:10.12 | ckknight | pastamancer: finally |
| 20:11.05 | pastamancer | yeah, seriously |
| 20:11.48 | pastamancer | ckknight: did you run into that bug when working ont putbull's raid frames? |
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| 20:12.17 | Fisker- | putbull!!!!! |
| 20:12.26 | ckknight | pastamancer: sure did |
| 20:12.32 | ckknight | Fisker-: don't make me kick you for being a douche. |
| 20:12.33 | pastamancer | glad to know I'm not the only one |
| 20:12.46 | Fisker- | i'm not :( |
| 20:12.50 | Saroz | Never ran into it |
| 20:12.51 | hyperChipmunk | hm, when i close a tablet as a function from one of its lines, it's all blank and stuff when it re-opens |
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| 20:13.38 | Fisker- | If i was a douche i'd said he was an00b for misspelling it :( |
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| 20:14.00 | hyperChipmunk | i see a really retarded-looking workaround in Baggins, here; is this really necessary? |
| 20:14.03 | hyperChipmunk | cat:AddLine("text",L["Close"],"func", function() self:ScheduleEvent(function() tablet:Close("BagginsEditBags") end, 0.01) end) |
| 20:14.14 | knarf^_^ | nymbia how is doodle working theese days? :) |
| 20:14.22 | Nerrisa | Is there a bug witht he current AGUF? No names appear on target or target or target |
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| 20:14.40 | nymbia | knarf^_^: just fine ;) |
| 20:14.59 | vhaarr | Nerrisa: Adjust the width of the health string. |
| 20:15.12 | Nerrisa | ok |
| 20:15.39 | Nerrisa | Well it worked before |
| 20:16.57 | Nerrisa | Ok that works...but is there a way to make it like it was before? |
| 20:17.14 | Nerrisa | I have to extend it out pretty far to get a name to show now. |
| 20:17.17 | vhaarr | Set it to 0. |
| 20:17.25 | NeoTron | best reason to play warlock: http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/t5_weapons/warlock.jpg |
| 20:17.26 | knarf^_^ | nymbia not loading textures from cartographer by default or anything ? :) |
| 20:17.30 | NeoTron | you look so fricking cool in he sets :P |
| 20:17.34 | knarf^_^ | Or do you need to add the different maps yourself? |
| 20:17.56 | nymbia | knarf^_^: nope, someone had a version floating around with dozens of built in maps though |
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| 20:19.11 | NeoTron | It's interesting how they have matching weapons for the tier5 sets |
| 20:19.49 | Fisker- | Now they just need to remove spellcrit from the paladin set :P |
| 20:20.53 | knarf^_^ | nymbia could your perhaps add an option if cartographer is there to load maps from cartographer_instancemaps as bg ? :) |
| 20:23.28 | nymbia | be easier to just allow drawing on the cartographer frame because of how maps are built now |
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| 20:23.58 | knarf^_^ | Either way works :P |
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| 20:29.32 | hyperChipmunk | that would be slick |
| 20:30.12 | hyperChipmunk | if i had that back in the day when BGs weren't suck, that would have been so awesome |
| 20:30.42 | hyperChipmunk | i used trees in teldrassil as mock bases to demonstrate tactics for AB =P |
| 20:30.59 | sergio | hahahahaha |
| 20:33.18 | Fisker- | nymbia is hard core |
| 20:33.44 | Saroz | vhaarr, could I fork NRT? |
| 20:35.18 | nadas | say yes :p |
| 20:36.06 | Ordog | Kemayo: alt + leftclick on the not detached questsFu i think |
| 20:36.48 | deltron | http://www.reelzchannel.com/article.aspx?articleid=194 |
| 20:36.49 | deltron | mmm |
| 20:36.51 | vhaarr | Saroz: depends |
| 20:37.00 | vhaarr | Saroz: why does it need forking? |
| 20:37.19 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r34364 10SpellBinder/ (5 files): |
| 20:37.19 | CIA-23 | SpellBinder: |
| 20:37.19 | CIA-23 | - Add a button to list bound crap. |
| 20:37.19 | CIA-23 | - Minor optimizations. |
| 20:37.19 | CIA-23 | - Fix drunken tabination in locale files. |
| 20:38.06 | Saroz | vhaarr, some tweaks here and there, and so people can update their Babble-Boss etc :) |
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| 20:40.46 | CIA-23 | 03verotas * r34365 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs.toc: LittleWigs: fixed typo |
| 20:40.48 | Saroz | just need a name for it!!! |
| 20:41.56 | Chompers | ah saroz, i /lick'ed you today |
| 20:41.56 | Saroz | notNRT |
| 20:41.58 | Chompers | how was it? |
| 20:42.03 | Saroz | huh? |
| 20:42.11 | CIA-23 | 03joshborke * r34366 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua: |
| 20:42.12 | CIA-23 | PitBull_BarFader: |
| 20:42.12 | CIA-23 | - really make the max alpha 0.7 |
| 20:42.12 | CIA-23 | - always update the stop time |
| 20:42.12 | CIA-23 | - fading + smoothing looks like shit for some reason. just use smooth, it's the best |
| 20:42.18 | Chompers | oh, i guess you were afk |
| 20:42.25 | Saroz | usually am :p |
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| 20:44.14 | Saroz | vhaarr, yes, no? |
| 20:44.51 | vhaarr | Saroz: if it's a rename in order to get babble-boss updates, then no |
| 20:45.11 | Saroz | it's not, it's so we can have a uber raid tracker |
| 20:45.20 | vhaarr | it works fine as is |
| 20:45.35 | Saroz | NRTripoff |
| 20:46.22 | vhaarr | I won't allow it if it's just to get it back on the SVN -- the mod works fine if you have a copy already. |
| 20:46.29 | vhaarr | and to get babble updates, you can just run babble standalone |
| 20:46.36 | vhaarr | there's no good reason to keep it on the svn |
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| 20:46.44 | vhaarr | the mod is finished, there's nothing more to do |
| 20:46.46 | vhaarr | works 100% |
| 20:48.57 | JoshBorke | or you could just get the files from trac |
| 20:49.28 | vhaarr | if someone wants to download it, it should still be available indeed |
| 20:50.06 | Chompers | 3 hours in ramparts is fun |
| 20:50.19 | Chompers | espically after 10 deaths and only one boss down |
| 20:50.26 | Chompers | hurah for pugs |
| 20:50.28 | Saroz | vhaarr, works 100%, but what's the problem really? many people use it and want it availiable |
| 20:50.48 | vhaarr | Saroz: It is available? |
| 20:50.59 | vhaarr | If they have a local copy already, it won't just STOP working because I removed it from the SVN. |
| 20:51.01 | Saroz | wont it get deleted in /files ? |
| 20:51.04 | Saroz | I know that |
| 20:51.09 | vhaarr | So what's the big deal then? |
| 20:51.11 | vhaarr | Let it go. |
| 20:51.24 | Saroz | meeeeeh |
| 20:52.51 | Saroz | What's the point of making it and then remove it |
| 20:52.58 | Saroz | people like it and maybe new people will like it too |
| 20:53.00 | Saroz | pssh |
| 20:53.27 | Matrix110 | upload it for them? |
| 20:53.55 | vhaarr | yeah create a whole underground NRT movement |
| 20:53.55 | Saroz | and maybe someone have a few nice ideas for features |
| 20:53.57 | vhaarr | I don't mind |
| 20:53.57 | nymbia | it's still on files |
| 20:54.02 | vhaarr | Saroz: I wouldn't accept them. |
| 20:54.03 | Saroz | YUS |
| 20:54.06 | vhaarr | Saroz: The mod works fine. |
| 20:54.08 | Saroz | Free willy |
| 20:54.09 | Saroz | !!! |
| 20:54.17 | Matrix110 | *cough*the only thing NRT is missing is the comment function *cough* but vhaarr doesnt like it so it wont get added |
| 20:54.32 | vhaarr | :p |
| 20:54.38 | Saroz | *cough* |
| 20:54.53 | Matrix110 | i will try to use my insane .lua skills and get in it somehow i will fail miserably though:P |
| 20:55.03 | nadas | i miss 2 features but i'm afraid to mention them ;) |
| 20:55.10 | vhaarr | haha |
| 20:55.12 | nadas | i'll just edit them in myself :p |
| 20:55.15 | vhaarr | good |
| 20:55.16 | Saroz | and needs a secondary warning "COME ON NUBS, 1 min left to whisper" |
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| 20:55.37 | Matrix110 | you can add that yourself easily |
| 20:55.41 | Saroz | I know that |
| 20:55.42 | nadas | i assume the addone was "ordered" ? |
| 20:55.43 | Callide|Tjockpr | Hello |
| 20:55.46 | Saroz | shush |
| 20:55.53 | Callide|Tjockpr | I got a random question |
| 20:56.08 | Saroz | vhaarr is in Nihilum!!! |
| 20:56.19 | Saroz | everyone whisper him |
| 20:56.20 | vhaarr | I'm not :P |
| 20:56.39 | NightHawkTheSane | LIES! |
| 20:57.07 | Callide|Tjockpr | Im looking for Antiarc ^^ |
| 20:57.10 | Saroz | Nihilum is controlling vhaarr |
| 20:57.18 | Saroz | puppet! |
| 20:57.26 | Callide|Tjockpr | Antiarc is afk :/ |
| 20:57.29 | nadas | i wonder if it works in 2.1.0 :p |
| 20:57.32 | Callide|Tjockpr | anyone got hes mail? |
| 20:57.35 | nadas | probably does |
| 20:57.42 | Matrix110 | nadas why shouldnt it work? |
| 20:57.49 | Callide|Tjockpr | Anyone got Antiarcs mail? |
| 20:57.54 | vhaarr | nadas: it does |
| 20:57.55 | Matrix110 | there isnt really much diffrence to 2.0.12 |
| 20:58.01 | nadas | :) |
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| 20:59.48 | Chompers | on the ptr my addons only take up 20-30mb of memory, is it supposed to be this low? |
| 21:00.02 | ckknight | depends on the addons |
| 21:00.06 | Chompers | its usually 80-90 on the live server |
| 21:00.16 | vhaarr | memory usage on PTR tends to be a bit lower for 2.1 |
| 21:00.18 | Matrix110 | Load out of Date Addons |
| 21:00.19 | Chompers | i cant see it being that optimised |
| 21:00.22 | vhaarr | but not that much |
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| 21:00.47 | Matrix110 | or do you run heavy database mods? |
| 21:01.06 | Matrix110 | maybe they are not x-server and so there is alot of data missing |
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| 21:01.34 | Chompers | that could be it |
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| 21:06.56 | Kemayo | Ordog: That's weird -- are you on live or on the PTR? |
| 21:08.23 | Kemayo | ~NRT |
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| 21:10.14 | ckknight | well, cya |
| 21:10.28 | Kemayo | Ah, a raid tracker. |
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| 21:10.45 | CIA-23 | 03alx * r34367 10WhoLib/WhoLib-1.0/: WhoLib: cleanup (mkdir) |
| 21:11.47 | CIA-23 | 03alx * r34368 10WhoLib/ (WhoLib-1.0/WhoLib.lua WhoLib.lua): WhoLib: cleanup (move) |
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| 21:14.56 | CIA-23 | 03alx * r34369 10WhoLib/WhoLib-1.0/ (WhoLib-1.0.lua WhoLib.lua): WhoLib: cleanup (rename) |
| 21:15.01 | renchap | is it some people here running wow with linux and dual screen ? |
| 21:16.21 | renchap | i use the twinview option (nvidia driver), all works fine, but wow keeps use the bas screen |
| 21:16.42 | hyperChipmunk | didn't we already discuss this? |
| 21:16.51 | renchap | *bad |
| 21:17.22 | hyperChipmunk | or was that someone else |
| 21:17.28 | renchap | not me :) |
| 21:17.43 | hyperChipmunk | my Xorg.conf is pasteyed somewhere |
| 21:17.45 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 21:19.38 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/14595 |
| 21:20.39 | renchap | thx |
| 21:21.03 | hyperChipmunk | i think the 'Screen' definition in the device sections is what you need |
| 21:21.05 | CIA-23 | 03alx * r34370 10WhoLib/ (WhoLib-1.0/WhoLib-1.0.lua WhoLib.toc): |
| 21:21.05 | CIA-23 | WhoLib: |
| 21:21.05 | CIA-23 | - updated toc |
| 21:21.05 | CIA-23 | - fixed callback |
| 21:21.05 | CIA-23 | - improved WoW 2.1 compatibility |
| 21:21.37 | hyperChipmunk | it defaults the CRT to 0, iirc |
| 21:24.58 | renchap | hyperChipmunk: you dont use twinview ? |
| 21:26.09 | renchap | have you got hw acceleration on both screens ? |
| 21:26.21 | CIA-23 | 03kaelten * r34371 10cgProfiler/ (npcs/npcs.lua raids/raids.lua): |
| 21:26.21 | CIA-23 | cgProfiler - |
| 21:26.21 | CIA-23 | -nominal quest support |
| 21:26.40 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 21:26.45 | hyperChipmunk | er, |
| 21:26.47 | hyperChipmunk | no, yes =) |
| 21:27.04 | renchap | hmm ok, lets try this |
| 21:27.22 | renchap | i have read that with your method you can only have hw acceleration on one screen |
| 21:27.24 | hyperChipmunk | just try modifying your existing setup with the Screen values |
| 21:27.25 | Kemayo | Where's the wow addons directory on a mac? |
| 21:27.52 | hyperChipmunk | before doing anything radical =) |
| 21:28.11 | renchap | i have only one display with twinview |
| 21:28.52 | renchap | http://http.download.nvidia.com/solaris/1.0-8762/README/appendix-g.html |
| 21:30.15 | ulic | Kemayo: same place I think, wow folder->Interface->Addons |
| 21:39.07 | hyperChipmunk | renchap: not display, device |
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| 21:40.00 | renchap | yup, sorry |
| 21:40.04 | renchap | i have only one device :) |
| 21:40.19 | Kaelten | I have an annoying lua bug |
| 21:40.25 | hyperChipmunk | well you sux then |
| 21:40.26 | Kaelten | whats up with the alpha numerics? |
| 21:40.41 | pastamancer | yeah, they're always bossing the beta numerics around! |
| 21:40.46 | hyperChipmunk | they hate you because you're a bigot |
| 21:40.55 | CIA-23 | 03shieldb * r34372 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc): Incubator: update to the R&J death handler |
| 21:41.01 | hyperChipmunk | you never use the numerics |
| 21:41.08 | Kemayo | ulic: Folder would be /Applications/World of Warcraft/ by default, I assume? |
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| 21:41.31 | renchap | Kemayo: yes |
| 21:42.07 | Kaelten | I've got quest level gathering down, except when they show a new one immediately after completing the old one. |
| 21:42.28 | CIA-23 | 03toadkiller * r34373 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc Core.lua libs/): |
| 21:42.29 | CIA-23 | AutoBar: |
| 21:42.29 | CIA-23 | -- Switch from PT3 alldata to consumable, misc & tradeskill |
| 21:42.39 | Kaelten | for quests that is |
| 21:44.57 | CIA-23 | 03toadkiller * r34374 10AutoBar/: |
| 21:44.57 | CIA-23 | AutoBar: |
| 21:44.57 | CIA-23 | - |
| 21:45.12 | Kaelten | anyone have any ideas? |
| 21:46.03 | shieldb | Kaelten, is there any sort of event that fires off when a player accepts a quest reward or similar that you could look for? |
| 21:46.11 | CIA-23 | 03toadkiller * r34375 10AutoBarConfig/AutoBarConfig.toc: |
| 21:46.11 | CIA-23 | AutoBarConfig: |
| 21:46.11 | CIA-23 | -- Switch from PT3 alldata to consumable, misc & tradeskill |
| 21:46.26 | Kaelten | honeslty, not sure, but its not the inability of tracking it completely |
| 21:46.35 | Kaelten | the bug I'm having is I'm still grabbing the old quest level |
| 21:46.38 | Kaelten | for some reason. |
| 21:47.56 | Kaelten | I'm thinking that it actually shows me the new quest before the old quest gets cleared off the log. |
| 21:50.09 | CIA-23 | 03alx * r34376 10WhoLib/ (WhoLib-1.0/WhoLib-1.0.lua WhoLib.toc): |
| 21:50.09 | CIA-23 | WhoLib: |
| 21:50.09 | CIA-23 | - fixed $Revision |
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| 21:51.07 | hyperChipmunk | am i right in seeing that acedb's register defaults is a big metatable useage abstraction? |
| 21:51.43 | JoshBorke | i'm sure you're seeing it right |
| 21:51.50 | JoshBorke | you're a smart guy |
| 21:52.16 | Megalon | Kaelten: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Q |
| 21:52.37 | Megalon | all those Events fires when accepting, completing quests etc |
| 21:52.46 | Megalon | -fires :c |
| 21:53.33 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: To some extent |
| 21:54.05 | Ordog | Kemayo: live |
| 21:54.20 | Ordog | Kemayo: im going to log on again and check if i can reproduce it |
| 21:56.35 | harldephin | déjà vu |
| 21:57.30 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/21721 <--that legal? |
| 21:59.22 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r34377 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Add hostility coloring options to targettarget and ttt. |
| 22:00.49 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: I've actually never tried nesting it, does it error? |
| 22:01.22 | hyperChipmunk | no idea; my code at this point is in no shape to find out =P |
| 22:02.13 | *** part/#wowace fatbrain (i=fatbrain@85.8.1.66.se.wasadata.net) |
| 22:04.53 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34378 10BigWigs/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: |
| 22:04.53 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: Outland/Doomwalker: |
| 22:04.53 | CIA-23 | - add deDE |
| 22:05.48 | Chosi | btw |
| 22:05.58 | Chosi | pitbull lost functionality of it's power spark after the last update |
| 22:06.05 | Chosi | for me |
| 22:06.06 | Chosi | :S |
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| 22:07.10 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 22:08.46 | hyperChipmunk | ah, ckknight =) |
| 22:08.49 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/21721 <--that legal? |
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| 22:09.01 | ckknight | I don't see why not |
| 22:09.15 | ckknight | looks legal to me |
| 22:09.49 | hyperChipmunk | hm, when i create a field in it, the subtables don't seem to be created |
| 22:10.20 | tophero | wow, these guys aren't gold farmers: 2 orc hunters, one named Gdgfdgf, the other Sxfdsf |
| 22:10.38 | Stephmw | And the names? |
| 22:11.13 | Chosi | . |
| 22:11.20 | Chosi | these are the names -.- |
| 22:11.20 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: you have to access them first for them to exist |
| 22:11.46 | hyperChipmunk | hm, so __newindex isn't set? |
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| 22:13.17 | hyperChipmunk | autoSendRules[dest].include.items[itemID] = true |
| 22:13.24 | hyperChipmunk | raises an error |
| 22:14.35 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 22:14.44 | ckknight | that _should_ work... |
| 22:15.00 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 22:15.04 | hyperChipmunk | i see what happens |
| 22:15.10 | hyperChipmunk | it works the third time =x |
| 22:15.18 | hyperChipmunk | the first time it complains about include not existing |
| 22:15.24 | hyperChipmunk | the second, about items not existing |
| 22:15.35 | hyperChipmunk | third time, it goes =x |
| 22:16.38 | hyperChipmunk | lemme reset it and try again; had another error in there |
| 22:17.33 | hyperChipmunk | k that part was my fault |
| 22:17.59 | art3mis | where's the horde repair guy in fellwood? |
| 22:18.01 | hyperChipmunk | but it still doesn't create the second nested table |
| 22:18.04 | art3mis | err felwood |
| 22:18.08 | art3mis | bloodvenom? |
| 22:18.32 | hyperChipmunk | art3mis: there aren't any alliance repair guys; wouldn't be surprised if there were no horde either |
| 22:18.32 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: okay, I'll look into it |
| 22:18.54 | hyperChipmunk | BulkMail-0.8.0\BulkMail.lua:310: attempt to index field 'items' (a nil value) |
| 22:19.04 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: there is one i thought |
| 22:19.09 | JoshBorke | by the FP, north east |
| 22:19.17 | hyperChipmunk | maybe; been a long time |
| 22:19.29 | hyperChipmunk | i seem to recall it not having a repair dude |
| 22:19.47 | tophero | yeah, there is an alliance repair guy at the fp in felwood |
| 22:20.02 | hyperChipmunk | i recall there being something about that zone that really annoyed me in terms of lacking a certain vendor type |
| 22:20.06 | tophero | think it's a bowcrafter ro something |
| 22:20.23 | tophero | i hated that zone because it's such a pain in the butt to move around in |
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| 22:22.33 | Morghus | Anyone know of a good listing of shared diminishing returns? |
| 22:23.16 | art3mis | aha the weapon merchant at blood venom |
| 22:24.27 | Arrowmaster | hey art3mis you mentioned the other day something about topscorefu not recording mindflay for you |
| 22:27.26 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I tried it out and it worked for me. |
| 22:27.30 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 22:27.46 | art3mis | yeah not for me for another shadow in my guild |
| 22:27.49 | art3mis | i dont use topscore |
| 22:28.00 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: so unless your variables were nils, it should've worked |
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| 22:33.01 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:34.16 | hyperChipmunk | autoSendRules = BulkMail.db.realm, obviously |
| 22:34.32 | hyperChipmunk | s/realm/realm.autoSendRules/ |
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| 22:35.09 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/21749 |
| 22:36.14 | ckknight | stuck that at the bottom of AceDB |
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| 22:37.07 | hyperChipmunk | inheritDefaults local to AceDB? |
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| 22:37.44 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:38.06 | ckknight | inheritDefaults(db.realm, db.defaults.realm) is called at ADDON_LOADED |
| 22:38.14 | ckknight | or whenever the DB is initialized |
| 22:38.19 | hyperChipmunk | that's what gets called when you register, i assume/ |
| 22:38.19 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 22:38.20 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 22:39.11 | Chompers | is there some sort of friends list addon? |
| 22:39.21 | vhaarr | auldlangsyne |
| 22:39.23 | JoshBorke | Chompers: have you ever looked on files.wowace.com? |
| 22:39.28 | Chompers | sometthing that orders them, so mains/alts are together |
| 22:39.49 | hyperChipmunk | oh, wait |
| 22:39.56 | hyperChipmunk | i deleted the second nesting |
| 22:40.04 | Chompers | i have, but i'd like some recomendations |
| 22:40.07 | hyperChipmunk | mebee i should put it back =P |
| 22:40.13 | nymbia | lol |
| 22:41.45 | hyperChipmunk | stfu nub |
| 22:42.36 | hyperChipmunk | hey it works |
| 22:42.47 | renchap | hyperChipmunk: i have setup xorg like you, with xinerama, but wow still open in the wrong screen |
| 22:43.17 | hyperChipmunk | you have Screen 0 on the correct device? |
| 22:43.28 | hyperChipmunk | switch 'um =x |
| 22:43.53 | hyperChipmunk | i could be totally wrong on that, btw; i set that all up like 2 years ago =P |
| 22:44.03 | hyperChipmunk | my memory is rusty a bit |
| 22:44.26 | renchap | it opens in my Screen 1 |
| 22:44.40 | hyperChipmunk | tell it to stop doing that |
| 22:44.50 | hyperChipmunk | say, "no! bad X! bad!" |
| 22:44.56 | renchap | :D |
| 22:46.59 | sylvanaar | anyone know what *the best* flat panel display you can get is? |
| 22:47.22 | hyperChipmunk | i <3 my samsung 244t |
| 22:47.37 | hyperChipmunk | best display for value imo |
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| 22:47.51 | hyperChipmunk | naturally, if you want to spend $30k |
| 22:47.56 | hyperChipmunk | you can probably find better |
| 22:49.27 | sylvanaar | i have a vx2000 which i bought in 2002, and nothing was much better than it in 2005 when i last looked |
| 22:52.07 | NightHawkTheSane | ~bad X |
| 22:52.08 | purl | Bad X, bad! No cookie for you! |
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| 22:53.30 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: still in a good mood? |
| 22:53.55 | ckknight | haven't been in a good mood for a while |
| 22:54.03 | hyperChipmunk | excellent |
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| 22:54.44 | renchap | hyperChipmunk: i think it is due to xinerama |
| 22:54.52 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, i didn't notice the changelog format changed some time ago, i was wondering why my script wasn't working right. |
| 22:55.01 | hyperChipmunk | then perhaps you can tell me why my tablet screws up when i have a line that closes the tablet |
| 22:55.51 | hyperChipmunk | i saw a workaround in baggins, but I think my comment explains it: |
| 22:55.55 | hyperChipmunk | cat:AddLine('text', L["Close"], 'func', function() self:ScheduleEvent(function() tablet:Close("BMAutoSendEdit") end, 0.01) end) -- WTF |
| 22:56.04 | sylvanaar | i just disassembled my raid array, and moved it to single disks, my pc runs so much better now. wierd |
| 22:56.04 | ckknight | don't know |
| 22:56.38 | hyperChipmunk | alright; i'll beat nargy in the face if he ever shows it here |
| 22:59.32 | ckknight | btw: whoever put the texture setting of combo points into the layout instead of the module was wrong in doing so. |
| 23:00.10 | hyperChipmunk | WROOOOOOONG |
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| 23:08.40 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34379 10PitBull/ (ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua Layouts/ABF.lua): PitBull_ComboPoints - move the texture settings from the ABF layout to the ComboPoints module. Whoever added the texture settings to the layout itself was wrong in doing so. |
| 23:09.16 | Legorol | morning folks |
| 23:09.31 | Legorol | who can i pester about Cartographer_LookNFeel? |
| 23:09.40 | Legorol | i get an error message on login, what's the best way to leave feedback? |
| 23:09.49 | Legorol | (i can copy paste the message, shall i do it here or elsewhere) |
| 23:09.54 | ckknight | what's the error? |
| 23:10.31 | Hjalte | Legorol, you can use ace.pastey.net if the error is big and you want to paste it |
| 23:11.03 | JoshBorke | paste it to teh channel leg ;-) |
| 23:11.16 | ckknight | nah, use pastey |
| 23:12.16 | Legorol | ok let me first update to latest version from wowace/files, to make sure it's still there |
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| 23:12.34 | cynyr | how so i get mountme to mount me? |
| 23:12.36 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r34380 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: highlight cooldown |
| 23:13.14 | Legorol | btw, simple question about the naming convention of files: what's the extra digit after the revision number? e.g. Cartographer-r34079.9.zip, what is the .9 at the end? |
| 23:13.25 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r34381 10Aloft/ (Modules/Visibility.lua Options/Modules/Visibility.lua): Aloft: Fixed Visibility module not having "Critter" translation |
| 23:13.39 | ckknight | Legorol: external library updates |
| 23:14.04 | sylvanaar | i need a new toy or something...goin to fry's |
| 23:14.06 | Legorol | so there are 9 different versions of Carto out there with the revision number 34079? |
| 23:14.10 | ckknight | yes |
| 23:16.21 | Legorol | i was also wondering, the zip files at files.wowace.com, they are very recent, and directly from the SVN? |
| 23:16.31 | Legorol | so they shouldn't be considered as "release" status mods, right? |
| 23:16.34 | sylvanaar | the one after 34079.9 is 34079.10 |
| 23:16.42 | JoshBorke | Legorol: correct |
| 23:16.43 | NightHawkTheSane | They're rebuilt every 20m from the subversion repository, yes |
| 23:16.46 | sylvanaar | just had to throw that in |
| 23:16.57 | JoshBorke | Legorol: wowinterface is a release status mod. all files downloaded from wowace should be considered beta |
| 23:17.19 | Legorol | ok, that's what i figured and keep telling to people in my guild, who keep insisting on getting their mods from files.wowace |
| 23:17.21 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: you need a wheel to grind that axe a bit harder? ;) |
| 23:17.41 | ckknight | Legorol: don't expect me to update to release sites regularly |
| 23:17.47 | Legorol | ok i can repro the error with 34079.9 |
| 23:17.47 | ckknight | too many problems, too much effort |
| 23:17.56 | sylvanaar | why dont we make latest-stable.txt and latest-dev.txt |
| 23:17.59 | Legorol | that's fine by me, ckknight |
| 23:18.08 | Legorol | as long as i know that files.wowace is considered beta status |
| 23:18.13 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: or we could only release from tags :-D |
| 23:18.14 | Legorol | nothing wrong with a mod forever in beta |
| 23:18.24 | sylvanaar | whatever |
| 23:18.28 | ckknight | JoshBorke: *shrug* |
| 23:18.38 | Legorol | http://ace.pastey.net/21801 |
| 23:18.38 | sylvanaar | i tag my releases |
| 23:18.39 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: probably the smarter idea, really, but meh :P |
| 23:18.57 | JoshBorke | i think if it had been done from the start it would be far easier to do now |
| 23:19.08 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. |
| 23:19.19 | JoshBorke | people have just grown too accustomed to doing whatever |
| 23:19.20 | Legorol | do some people actually tag their mods on the svn? |
| 23:19.26 | ckknight | meh, I don't release |
| 23:19.29 | JoshBorke | Legorol: some do |
| 23:19.29 | sylvanaar | but sometimes i tag somethign that's an end-of-lifecycle release |
| 23:19.30 | NightHawkTheSane | some do, some dont |
| 23:19.38 | JoshBorke | i'm trying to get into the habit of tagging |
| 23:19.39 | ckknight | I just expect people to use what's the latest |
| 23:19.52 | Legorol | where can i get hold of the tags? |
| 23:20.00 | Legorol | would i have to access SVN for that |
| 23:20.03 | Legorol | or is there a webpage |
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| 23:20.14 | JoshBorke | there are no generated zips |
| 23:20.25 | sylvanaar | you dont need an svn client to access the files, but yeah, there are no zips |
| 23:20.28 | JoshBorke | so you'd have to download/checkout all the files |
| 23:20.29 | Legorol | right, so in fact even if someone is making tags, the average enduser is not getting it |
| 23:20.37 | JoshBorke | Legorol: i don't think ANYONE gets a tag |
| 23:20.47 | Legorol | <sylvanaar> i tag my releases |
| 23:20.54 | Legorol | what's that about then |
| 23:21.04 | JoshBorke | Legorol: just because he tags his mods, doesn't mean anyone downloads the tags |
| 23:21.15 | Legorol | yeah i understand |
| 23:21.20 | sylvanaar | i tag them, then i upload that version to release sites |
| 23:21.41 | Legorol | what i mean is that, for an average enduser, it's easier to stumble onto the latest beta version than to stumble across the tagged release version? |
| 23:21.50 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 23:21.54 | Legorol | since Joe-the-user will go to files.wowace.com |
| 23:21.57 | JoshBorke | Legorol: yes |
| 23:22.02 | Legorol | ok, just checking |
| 23:22.06 | Legorol | anyhoo |
| 23:22.12 | Legorol | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/21801 |
| 23:22.15 | Legorol | that's the error |
| 23:22.17 | JoshBorke | it's virtually impossible to stumble on tags |
| 23:22.50 | sylvanaar | that'd be special, if tag's were autobuilt, but they arent |
| 23:24.09 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r34382 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer_LookNFeel - bugfix |
| 23:24.21 | sylvanaar | frankly, its all to much hassle for something i dont get paid to do |
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| 23:25.07 | ckknight | same, sylvanaar |
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| 23:26.28 | sylvanaar | i like writing code, so i spend my time doing that. if someone likes software engineering/qa, then grab an existing mod and get crackin |
| 23:26.45 | NightHawkTheSane | who actually -likes- that though? :P |
| 23:27.03 | ckknight | precisely |
| 23:27.04 | sylvanaar | people who like to manage other people |
| 23:27.14 | ckknight | since we're not paid, it really shouldn't be our responsibility |
| 23:27.21 | sylvanaar | and who usually do no actual work themselves |
| 23:27.41 | Legorol | ckknight, that was quick, thanks |
| 23:27.44 | Legorol | what was the bug? |
| 23:27.58 | ckknight | WorldFrame:Show could be called before something else in Cart |
| 23:28.12 | ckknight | apparently |
| 23:28.29 | Legorol | and that made self.db.profile.ttScale a nil? |
| 23:28.36 | sylvanaar | imo, i think the release sites should be taking the lead on some of the software engineering, since they make money |
| 23:29.00 | ckknight | Legorol: nope. |
| 23:29.03 | ckknight | Legorol: other argument |
| 23:29.44 | Legorol | that looks like argument #2 to me |
| 23:30.08 | ckknight | Legorol: not to me. |
| 23:30.19 | Legorol | am i reading the right line? |
| 23:30.20 | Legorol | AceLibrary("Tablet-2.0"):SetFontSizePercent(Cartographer.tooltipData, self.db.profile.ttScale) |
| 23:30.32 | mjc | UGH |
| 23:30.32 | mjc | why is it |
| 23:30.32 | mjc | that moving 140GB of data still takes fucking FOREVER |
| 23:30.38 | mjc | this is it, I need some 15krpm drives. |
| 23:30.46 | Legorol | anyway, thanks for fixing it |
| 23:30.47 | ckknight | yes, Legorol |
| 23:30.53 | ckknight | Cartographer.tooltipData is the second argument |
| 23:31.04 | Legorol | ah you are right, stupid self syntax sugar |
| 23:31.08 | Legorol | :o) |
| 23:31.15 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: i was thinking, it could be as easy as generating zips from tags, and autogenerating a new version whenever someone commits a special commit mesage |
| 23:32.16 | sylvanaar | or just use tags or a nonstandard tag root |
| 23:32.17 | NightHawkTheSane | like a post-commit hook to merge to tags if a certain commit message string is parsed? |
| 23:33.19 | JoshBorke | NightHawkTheSane: yes, would be the easiest way for developers |
| 23:33.22 | sylvanaar | you could easily use /releases/modname/version |
| 23:33.36 | ckknight | my versions are just by revision now :-P |
| 23:33.49 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: the only reason i mention it autogenerating is so that the dev has to do even less work :-P |
| 23:34.26 | sylvanaar | oh like "autocopy this to a tag" |
| 23:34.31 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: that'd be kind of neat. |
| 23:34.38 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: yea |
| 23:34.38 | NightHawkTheSane | er, i meant JoshBorke, meh |
| 23:37.34 | sylvanaar | ideally, you would want to tag a version without commiting |
| 23:37.47 | syeren | ckknight, are you actually ever going to fix the debuff auras? |
| 23:37.48 | nymbia | svn doesnt work that way |
| 23:37.53 | syeren | Been broken for 3 days now >_< |
| 23:37.58 | ckknight | syeren: probably not |
| 23:37.59 | sylvanaar | yes it does |
| 23:38.02 | ckknight | what's wrong? |
| 23:38.11 | ckknight | the border or something? |
| 23:38.14 | sylvanaar | tags are cheap copies |
| 23:38.15 | syeren | Yes. |
| 23:38.22 | ckknight | syeren: it works for me. |
| 23:38.33 | ckknight | so no, I probably won't fix it |
| 23:38.34 | syeren | http://fabrikate.org/wow/buffbutnodebuff.jpg |
| 23:38.45 | pastamancer | god forbid anyone have to type 'svn copy' |
| 23:38.57 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: lol, i'm just saying :-D |
| 23:39.16 | sylvanaar | once you know that you want to release a version - you dont want to change it |
| 23:41.12 | sylvanaar | actually we did used to support zips from branches, but those used to break wau 1.5 |
| 23:42.41 | nymbia | syeren: they work fine, is the option on? |
| 23:43.04 | Roartindon | syeren: Looks like you've just got highlight buffs turned on |
| 23:43.24 | syeren | I have all the options on. |
| 23:44.16 | nymbia | syeren: english client? |
| 23:44.26 | Roartindon | problem is it's not showing debuffs? Turn off filtering? |
| 23:44.29 | sylvanaar | ok, anyone recommend a good graphics card pcix? |
| 23:44.36 | syeren | Of course. |
| 23:45.01 | syeren | I just redownloaded it and deleted all the seperate directories. |
| 23:45.06 | syeren | Will try it in BG when I can be bothered. |
| 23:45.17 | ckknight | syeren: here's what you gotta do: |
| 23:45.25 | ckknight | hover over one, /print GetMouseFocus().border |
| 23:45.56 | ckknight | tell me if :GetTexture returns something |
| 23:45.57 | ckknight | also :GetVertexColor |
| 23:47.45 | sylvanaar | to put it another way... 8800GTX or not? |
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| 23:48.40 | Chompers | not |
| 23:48.49 | Chompers | wait for the ati cards coming out soon |
| 23:50.09 | Chompers | they should bring the prices down on all cards |
| 23:50.51 | sylvanaar | hmmm... |
| 23:51.34 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: Depends on what you have at the moment, and if you have a compelling need to upgrade soon :) |
| 23:51.39 | sylvanaar | ati was bought by amd - are they still producing good products? or did thier core team leave |
| 23:51.53 | sylvanaar | i need a new toy |
| 23:52.02 | syeren | It works since I re-downloaded Pitbull Ckk. |
| 23:52.14 | ckknight | hooray |
| 23:52.15 | Chompers | their new cards looks nice |
| 23:52.49 | sylvanaar | i got vista, now i want to spruce up my system a bit |
| 23:53.24 | KarlThePagan | I just noticed that files.wowace.com/latest.xml has 666 items in it |
| 23:53.59 | ckknight | oh neos |
| 23:54.00 | ckknight | noes* |
| 23:54.24 | NightHawkTheSane | i suppose the people who say ace is evil now have a leg to stand on? |
| 23:54.48 | sylvanaar | why |
| 23:54.55 | KarlThePagan | until the next addon is comitted |
| 23:55.02 | NightHawkTheSane | well, yes |
| 23:55.05 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 23:55.10 | sylvanaar | yeah 666 |
| 23:55.13 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 23:55.21 | NightHawkTheSane | but then they can say it's one more than evil! |
| 23:55.35 | *** join/#wowace Xelotar (n=zealouta@dslb-084-062-165-244.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:55.37 | KarlThePagan | Neighbor of the Beast! Fred |
| 23:55.42 | sylvanaar | they already do - they are all attention whores |
| 23:55.48 | Xelotar | heyas |
| 23:56.07 | NightHawkTheSane | I tried to be an attention whore once, no one was buying though |
| 23:58.21 | Xelotar | any1 else having trouble with fubar since the last update? or am i the only one? |
| 23:58.46 | sylvanaar | if people dont want to use ace, thats thier business, i just dont want to know about it because its all about them, and has nothing to do with me, or anything that would benefit me |
