00:00.13 | chutwig | i watched the director's cut of that |
00:00.14 | chutwig | sooooooo long |
00:00.14 | KarlThePagan | wowace.com down? |
00:00.28 | Azurewrath | if you watch Das Boot, you have to watch the 4 hours directors cut ;) |
00:00.28 | trh | Chompers: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_%E2%80%93_Nichts_ist_so_wie_es_scheint theres a german description about that movie =) |
00:00.42 | chutwig | i did like good bye lenin |
00:00.43 | Azurewrath | or was it six hours? |
00:00.43 | Gnarfoz | I had the neice of the main actor (Juergen Prochnow) as a teacher at some point ;D |
00:00.54 | chutwig | and now i know what they say at german burger kings |
00:01.10 | chutwig | guten appetit, und vielen dank dass sie für burger king entschieden haben |
00:01.19 | trh | chutwig: haha.. yea.. that's true :) |
00:01.19 | Azurewrath | haha |
00:01.27 | Gnarfoz | heh, at the drive-through they might say that |
00:01.31 | chutwig | do they really? |
00:01.35 | Azurewrath | no. |
00:01.40 | chutwig | in america they pretty much throw the bag at you |
00:01.46 | Azurewrath | same here ;) |
00:01.57 | Gnarfoz | they might, I don't really ever go to the drive-through ;D |
00:02.00 | trh | chutwig: fun fact about burger-king and mcd in germany: they call the drive-through "drive-in" because germans habe problems pronouncing the "through" =) |
00:02.10 | chutwig | trh: ze drive-zroo |
00:02.19 | Gnarfoz | it'd be about syntactically correct and all, don't know d-t etiquette |
00:02.32 | trh | chutwig: ya.. the "th" is the problem... i can speak it, but many germans can't :) |
00:02.38 | Gnarfoz | np: "Weird Al" Yankovic - Trapped In The Drive-Thru · [>>--------] (25%/10:51) |
00:02.40 | Gnarfoz | heh. :D |
00:02.48 | chutwig | if it makes you feel any better i had to take speech therapy lessons because i mangled it for years |
00:02.50 | chutwig | it's a hard sound |
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00:03.24 | trh | chutwig: ya.. isn't the easiest one ;) |
00:03.25 | chutwig | meh, netflix doesn't have nichts ist so wie es scheint |
00:03.32 | Gnarfoz_ | most speak it as some kind of "s" |
00:03.54 | Azurewrath | my first english teacher was like 700 years old and spent half of his life in england, scotland and wales.. but hey, i can speak the th now ;) |
00:04.05 | chutwig | my first german teacher concentrated mostly on reading and writing |
00:04.18 | chutwig | consequently i've never been that comfortable with speaking it |
00:04.27 | chutwig | though i've been told my accent is not too bad |
00:04.44 | Azurewrath | must be pretty hard as an american.. the accent sounds funny ;) |
00:04.48 | Gnarfoz_ | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/ < 23 ;) |
00:04.55 | chutwig | well |
00:04.58 | chutwig | i don't say the american r |
00:05.09 | chutwig | and i get the ch sounds right |
00:05.13 | trh | hehe.. i remember a funny story at our local burgerking.. we had discount cards to get 10% discount on our order... so we showed them and the clerk-chick had a problem with the cash-register-thingy... we had to pay about 11euro, and we told her to just accept the 10 euro bill, because 10% of 11eur are surely more than 1eur |
00:05.21 | trh | took about 5 minutes until she got that |
00:05.54 | Gnarfoz_ | chutwig: the ch/sch sounds are I guess the top thing to get wrong (just like the th the other way around) |
00:06.09 | trh | i love how the bavarians roll the 'r' ;) |
00:06.16 | chutwig | Gnarfoz_: from my experiences while learning the hardest things for most americans are the r sounds, ö, and ü |
00:06.18 | Gnarfoz_ | rrrrrrr |
00:06.24 | chutwig | i use the french r personally |
00:06.34 | chutwig | rrrrrrrrrennen |
00:06.42 | Gnarfoz_ | ^^ |
00:06.57 | trh | chutwig: ya.. it sounds like a violently beaten weasel ;) |
00:07.20 | chutwig | armes wiesel |
00:07.22 | Gnarfoz_ | I'd rather level a char naked with only a level 1 weapon from 1 - 70 and back (?!) than learn German as a second language, I guess |
00:07.33 | Gnarfoz_ | it has so many pit falls and weird stuff |
00:07.42 | trh | Gnarfoz: latin is even worse :) |
00:07.47 | Azurewrath | nicht mehr als das englische. ;p |
00:07.48 | chutwig | i wouldn't necessarily accuse english of being any different |
00:07.48 | chutwig | j |
00:07.54 | Gnarfoz_ | dunno |
00:08.05 | chutwig | just that in english you have a higher probability of success or at least basic comprehension by slapping one word in front of the other |
00:08.12 | trh | i think spanish is one of the easiest languages |
00:08.21 | Gnarfoz_ | most people don't have the luxury of an untainted perspective on 'which language is easier to learn' |
00:08.22 | chutwig | because we ditched most of our inflections |
00:08.23 | Azurewrath | trh: oh yes... i had latin for about for years.. and all i remember is "puella cantat" |
00:08.32 | Gnarfoz_ | lol |
00:08.35 | Gnarfoz_ | the girl sings ^^ |
00:08.39 | trh | Azurewrath: hehe.. i had it for 3 years.. and forgot everything |
00:08.42 | Azurewrath | right ;) |
00:08.42 | chutwig | curse you germans and your foul adjective declensions that took me years to master |
00:08.47 | chutwig | puellae cantant |
00:08.52 | trh | Azurewrath: even got the small latinum ;) |
00:08.55 | Gnarfoz_ | that'd be multiple girls |
00:09.31 | Gnarfoz_ | I had 8 years of latin, 4 years of ancient greek (wooo) and 7 years of english in school... and I didn't even finish school ;D |
00:09.33 | chutwig | puella non cantare potest |
00:09.45 | trh | Gnarfoz: omg... sounds hardcore =) |
00:09.45 | Azurewrath | agricola asinus est, errare humanum est ;p |
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00:09.56 | chutwig | i had 4 years of latin, 10 years of german, and a little french |
00:09.59 | trh | Gnarfoz: sprachliches gymnasium? ;) |
00:10.02 | Gnarfoz_ | trh: 5. klasse latein, 7. englisch, 9. altgriechisch |
00:10.10 | Gnarfoz_ | trh: jo =) |
00:10.14 | trh | Gnarfoz: autsch ;) |
00:10.23 | Bam_DK | think it will cause taint trouble to hook GetContainerItemInfo directly? |
00:10.42 | chutwig | wünsche mir, dass amerika so eines gymnasium bieten würde |
00:10.45 | trh | Gnarfoz: i think i'd have been fucked at such a school ;) |
00:10.45 | Gnarfoz_ | trh: when I was there... yes, very ouch, but in retrospect, I think it's quite useful |
00:10.55 | chutwig | ist typisch sehr schwer, fremdsprachen hier zu lernen |
00:11.01 | chutwig | anders als spanisch |
00:11.05 | trh | Gnarfoz: never got good grades in languages |
00:11.11 | Ominous | in a string.gsub how do you replace a (? |
00:11.18 | chutwig | \( doesn't work? |
00:11.20 | Gnarfoz_ | I could've... but I'm so lazy by nature it's not even funny :D |
00:11.22 | trh | Ominous: %( |
00:11.33 | chutwig | friggin' lua always has to do things different |
00:11.36 | Azurewrath | chutwig: Wieso lernt man eigentlich Deutsch als Amerikaner? Ich hätte vermutet dass bei euch eher Spanisch die normale Zweitsprache ist ;) |
00:11.58 | Ominous | trh: thanks |
00:12.03 | chutwig | Azurewrath: meine hochschule hat deutsch geboten, aber das ist nicht typisch |
00:12.04 | trh | Gnarfoz: hehe.. ya.. lazy is my middle name ;) |
00:12.13 | chutwig | die meisten hochschulen bieten nur spanisch und französisch |
00:12.23 | hyperChipmunk | string.match is faster than string.find for a boolean check? |
00:12.26 | Gnarfoz_ | is there such a thing as a compulsory second language in US schools? |
00:12.29 | chutwig | wir hatten auch lateinisch und deutsch |
00:12.30 | trh | Gnarfoz: i think i'd have been interested in chinese or japanese, if they'd had offered it at my school |
00:12.37 | chutwig | well, yeah, but it's pretty minimal |
00:12.37 | trh | Gnarfoz: but only if not graded :) |
00:12.43 | chutwig | when i was there you only had to do 2 years of something |
00:12.50 | chutwig | so all the morons went to spanish 1 and spanish 2 and learned fuck-all |
00:12.56 | Gnarfoz_ | trh: yeah, at least some basic stuff would've been interesting for those two, I agree |
00:13.03 | hyperChipmunk | not really; some high schools say you have to have to have a semester of something |
00:13.11 | hyperChipmunk | but nobody really cares =) |
00:13.34 | chutwig | personally i think language education should be emphasized more, especially from an early age, but i was also a linguistics major, so my opinion may be somewhat biased |
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00:13.40 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
00:13.46 | hyperChipmunk | languages are retarded |
00:13.49 | Azurewrath | ah ok... so it's the pupils own decision what to learn? Nowadays everyone has to learn english in German Schools, afair they plan to introduce it in elementary school |
00:13.54 | hyperChipmunk | l2speaka de english |
00:14.08 | ckknight | hey all |
00:14.15 | chutwig | englisch beherrscht die welt |
00:14.18 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: string.match is faster than string.find for a boolean check? |
00:14.21 | NightHawkTheSane | languages -are- retarded, we should communicate purely telepathically |
00:14.43 | Azurewrath | i'm pretty bad at learning new languages.. (read: i'm lazy).. but many languages sound quite nice |
00:14.46 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: that'd be cool.. i hope neuro science gets that far someday :) |
00:14.49 | chutwig | i am currently thinking "nighthawk is fat" |
00:14.53 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: no, they're the same speed, just two separate paths in C. Only difference is the extra args |
00:15.13 | hyperChipmunk | k |
00:15.16 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: actually, I really dont want to be able to read minds. Other people are scary enough as is. |
00:15.23 | hyperChipmunk | was too lazy to check the source =p |
00:15.44 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: i don't mean reading minds, but being able to communicate through thinking.. of course only the stuff gets "sent" that i want to have sent :) |
00:15.52 | jaete | ckknight, did you check this out already? http://ace.pastey.net/18283 |
00:15.53 | chutwig | by the way, as long as we're breaking down stereotypes about americans, not all our beer is shitty |
00:15.57 | jaete | that any use to you? :) |
00:16.03 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: yeah, thats how it starts, then you slip up and send some smarmy remark to your boss. :P |
00:16.13 | Azurewrath | chutwig: not? ;) |
00:16.22 | chutwig | Azurewrath: überhaupt nicht |
00:16.24 | ckknight | sadly, no, jaete |
00:16.25 | NightHawkTheSane | chutwig: Indeed. there's a lot of great local breweries |
00:16.27 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: thats the problem with every invention.. it can be used for good and evil |
00:16.36 | chutwig | nur budweiser, coors, etc |
00:16.42 | chutwig | die gemeinsamen biere |
00:16.50 | ckknight | was willst du, chutwig? |
00:16.52 | jaete | i have no idea what that's about, could be a bug in blizzard's own code, in which case it would be rather nontrivial for us to fix :] |
00:16.55 | Azurewrath | mhm ja, Budweiser ist widerlich.. Spülwasser |
00:17.06 | Ominous | is dev.wowace.com down or is it myy internet? |
00:17.12 | chutwig | here's a joke |
00:17.17 | trh | chutwig: budweiser is from czech.. but they brew it in the u.s. and aren't allowed to export them into europe because of that name ;) |
00:17.20 | jaete | might figure out one day which one of the pitbull addons causes the fatal crash, if i have the time for that |
00:17.22 | chutwig | what do american beer and sex in a canoe have in common |
00:17.26 | Gnarfoz_ | luckily I don't drink, so I don't have anything to contribute to beer discussions :D |
00:17.26 | chutwig | they're both fucking near water |
00:17.40 | Azurewrath | hehe, already knew that one.. but it's good |
00:17.46 | chutwig | puns are fun |
00:17.57 | chutwig | and what sort of a german are you that doesn't drink gnarfoz |
00:18.02 | trh | Gnarfoz: ah well.. sometimes a good beer with some friends is nice :) |
00:18.13 | Gnarfoz_ | trh: ... "I'll have a coke then." :D |
00:18.18 | Gnarfoz_ | where's that one even from |
00:18.26 | trh | Gnarfoz: at least order a AFRI-cola =) |
00:18.33 | Gnarfoz_ | If I can, I do :D |
00:18.45 | chutwig | minderwertiger deutscher |
00:18.49 | Gnarfoz_ | nah |
00:18.52 | chutwig | doch |
00:19.19 | trh | pretzels ftw! |
00:19.22 | Azurewrath | chutwig: if you ever visit Germany try a Potts, a Tannenzäpfle, a 1843er and some Octoberfest Bier ;) |
00:19.32 | chutwig | you live in germany, go drink a damn beer or two |
00:19.47 | Gnarfoz_ | when in Germany, do as the Germans do? |
00:19.48 | Gnarfoz_ | :> |
00:19.56 | chutwig | tun wie die deutscher tun |
00:20.07 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: that's not the best policy |
00:20.12 | chutwig | the last time i was in germany we stopped in regensburg at some little wurstküche |
00:20.16 | chutwig | 7 years later |
00:20.19 | chutwig | they still haunt my dreams |
00:20.20 | trh | Gnarfoz: you might like bafüßer's beer.. tastes like beer, but doesnt has that bitter "nachgeschmack" =) |
00:20.24 | Gnarfoz_ | I just put alcohol on the same step as other drugs and don't touch it :> (nevermind I've got some liver stuff going on my doc tells me I should avoid alcohol^^) |
00:20.34 | trh | chutwig: positively or negatively? ;) |
00:20.46 | Ominous | im off |
00:20.49 | chutwig | trh: in the "if i go back to germany the first thing i'm doing is going there" |
00:20.58 | Gnarfoz_ | nah, I'm not even talking about the taste of it, I'm just kind of opposed to drugs/alcholol/smoking ^^ |
00:21.08 | chutwig | my girlfriend and i were looking into a trip to germany this summer but the exchange rate is horrendous |
00:21.18 | trh | chutwig: hehe.. aren't there good sausages in the usa? |
00:21.25 | Azurewrath | hehe, i like the rate.. stuff from the US is cheap to order ;) |
00:21.30 | chutwig | i don't >:( |
00:21.31 | Gnarfoz_ | Azurewrath: indeed! :D |
00:21.36 | trh | chutwig: hehe.. the euro had is highest value vs. dollar since history few days ago i think ;) |
00:21.55 | chutwig | trh: not like these |
00:22.02 | Bam_DK | is www.wowace.com slow for everyone tonight? |
00:22.08 | chutwig | it's just not really authentic |
00:22.13 | Gnarfoz_ | gimme some Frankfurter wuerstchen :> |
00:22.13 | trh | chutwig: what kind of sausage was it? i mean there must be like 20 types ;) |
00:22.32 | Gnarfoz_ | (hmmmm Nuernberger Rostbratwurst ftw) |
00:22.38 | Azurewrath | chutwig: if you like Metal, come here in August and visit Wacken Open Air ;) |
00:22.42 | trh | Gnarfoz_: rostbratwürstchen rock! |
00:22.48 | Gnarfoz_ | hmmm W:O:A |
00:22.58 | Gnarfoz_ | I should so go there someday |
00:22.59 | chutwig | trh: http://www.wurstkuchl.de/ |
00:23.15 | Azurewrath | *hugs his W:O:A 2007 Ticket* |
00:23.20 | Gnarfoz_ | I mean, it's like an hour and a half away from me |
00:23.34 | chutwig | Azurewrath: i don't |
00:23.35 | trh | chutwig: you can order online there :) |
00:23.48 | Azurewrath | chutwig: a pity :) |
00:24.11 | chutwig | trh: i dunno, it's just not the same when you stick it in a can |
00:24.27 | chutwig | besides, they probably don't or won't ship to america |
00:24.48 | trh | chutwig: i think they would :) |
00:24.50 | Funkeh` | whats is killing the server so bad? :/ |
00:24.57 | Azurewrath | i can ship you a sausage if you want.. without a can.. and without cooling ;p |
00:25.08 | chutwig | trh: customs here likes to flip a shit over really asinine things, especially food products |
00:25.18 | chutwig | i hate american customs |
00:25.19 | Gnarfoz_ | oh yeah |
00:25.23 | chutwig | bunch of assholes |
00:25.30 | Gnarfoz_ | I concur. |
00:25.36 | Mikma | chutwig: they're always after your anus? |
00:25.37 | ckknight | but think of the children! |
00:25.38 | Gnarfoz_ | and I've only been to the US once ever :D |
00:25.43 | chutwig | i go to england, the guy asks me a few questions and waves me through |
00:25.43 | trh | chutwig: i think thats true for every customs ;) |
00:25.47 | chutwig | i come back to america and get yelled at |
00:26.03 | Gnarfoz_ | I go to england and just show my passport and can go through :D |
00:26.31 | chutwig | one of the advantages of the bureaucratic trainwreck that is the EU |
00:26.39 | Gnarfoz_ | heh indeed |
00:26.40 | trh | btw: do they police in the us really come out pointing a gun at you and yelling to be not doing fast moves and come slowly out of your car, or is that just hollywood? |
00:26.51 | chutwig | under what circumstances? |
00:26.51 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: any reason that BulkMail:Print(string.format("%s - %s", (select(2, GetItemInfo(itemID))) or itemID, dest)) should print ": nil" after every line? |
00:26.58 | chutwig | let's put it this way |
00:26.59 | Azurewrath | when i went to New York about err... 8 years ago i had to fill out a paper sheet with options like [ ] vacation, [ ] terrorism, [ ] murder the President... |
00:27.03 | chutwig | if you get pulled over, don't get out of the car |
00:27.08 | trh | standard-control for drunken driving or anything |
00:27.11 | chutwig | nah |
00:27.23 | chutwig | but if you get pulled over and you get out of the car, they probably would pull a gun on you |
00:27.24 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: don't know |
00:27.36 | trh | Azurewrath: good thing terrorists are so hones about their goals ;) |
00:27.40 | hyperChipmunk | you suck |
00:27.43 | Azurewrath | hehe |
00:27.50 | Gnarfoz | I'd have no reason to get out of the car anyway, I guess... they want something from me, not the other way around... so why would I get out :D |
00:28.08 | trh | chutwig: ah.. but usually they don't slowly approach the car pointing a gun? ;) |
00:28.16 | chutwig | trh: no, why would they do that |
00:28.30 | trh | chutwig: i don't know.. but they do in nearly every us production |
00:28.34 | Azurewrath | but.. but.. they do in the movies! *crys* |
00:28.38 | chutwig | it's hollywood |
00:28.44 | Gnarfoz | (which is what the question was about in the first place :D) |
00:28.50 | chutwig | glaube niemals ihre lügen |
00:28.58 | Gnarfoz | THEY lie anyway |
00:29.06 | trh | chutwig: ya... i guessed that they don't do it that extremely... but worth asking ;) |
00:29.12 | chutwig | naw |
00:29.16 | chutwig | contrary to popular impressions |
00:29.18 | trh | you never know what those yankee do ;) |
00:29.26 | chutwig | this is not the unsettled frontier and people don't have shootouts here every day |
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00:29.55 | trh | oh.. to preventively answer the common question about germans: we don't all wear lederhosen ;) |
00:29.59 | NightHawkTheSane | ... speak for yourself chutwig, downtown seattle is a wasteland of piracy and coyboys! |
00:30.18 | nymbia | trh: lies, all of it. |
00:30.18 | hyperChipmunk | and starbucks |
00:30.19 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: honestly, i'd hope not, it seems like it'd chafe a lot. |
00:30.20 | chutwig | NightHawkTheSane: downtown [insert city name] is usually a shithole |
00:30.41 | Gnarfoz | I don't wear hosen at all! ha. |
00:30.44 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: yes, and starbucks. It's not even a joke that there's one every block here. >< |
00:30.46 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: hehe.. ya.. i'd think so ;) |
00:30.49 | chutwig | and i don't own any guns |
00:30.52 | nymbia | my downtown's pretty nice, but it's right near the college so they get a ton of business |
00:30.59 | hyperChipmunk | i know; that's why i said it, moron |
00:31.33 | trh | i wonder why only bk, mcd, subway and kfc massively expanded to germany |
00:31.37 | Gnarfoz | there was a joke about that in a simpsons episode IIRC |
00:31.41 | trh | no wendys, dunking donuts, starbucks and so on |
00:31.50 | Gnarfoz | trh: BK, Subway and KFC took their time |
00:32.13 | Gnarfoz | dunkin donuts has a few places, but they don't give out franchise licenses anymore (for germany at least) |
00:32.15 | chutwig | heh |
00:32.24 | chutwig | the only KFC i have ever eaten at, in my life |
00:32.28 | chutwig | was in brno in the czech republic |
00:32.32 | Gnarfoz | Balzac Coffee is a weak imitation of Starbucks |
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00:32.44 | chutwig | and don't get me wrong, it was good |
00:32.44 | Gnarfoz | and I miss Wendys from when I was in the US ^^ |
00:32.47 | chutwig | but i paid for it the next morning |
00:32.50 | trh | chutwig: btw: what does a normal hamburger cost at a US-mcdonalds? =) |
00:32.50 | ckknight | well, you gotta understand that Starbucks doesn't sell coffee |
00:32.53 | NightHawkTheSane | that must be pretty bad coffee, Gnarfoz, starbucks is crap |
00:32.59 | chutwig | trh: like a quarter pounder? i dunno |
00:33.00 | ckknight | Starbucks sells coffee-flavored beverages |
00:33.16 | ckknight | they essentially created the Latte-crazy in America |
00:33.20 | chutwig | i haven't really been in a mcdonald's in years |
00:33.24 | trh | chutwig: ya.. i read that a 4$ burger is considered a deluxe-burger or something ;) |
00:33.29 | Azurewrath | trh: i've seen some Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks in Berlin.. but it's not as widespread as mcd etc... |
00:33.33 | chutwig | i would guess 2.50-3 bucks |
00:33.51 | trh | Azurewrath: ya.. only in berlin.. starbucks is a bit more spread, but not much |
00:33.57 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: sure is, but I rather meant the entire concept than just the drinks |
00:33.59 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: starbucks actually does sell coffee. It's just really bad burnt coffee. |
00:34.22 | ckknight | the more it's cooked, the better it tastes ... until it cools down |
00:34.27 | chutwig | things are generally cheaper here, though |
00:34.29 | ckknight | by cooking it more, you use less beans |
00:34.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Er, no, i mean the beans they use are generally burnt during roasting. |
00:35.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: ahh, well, that style of coffee shop is pretty common here at least. A lot of places do it better, too :P |
00:35.21 | ckknight | yea, a side effect of getting the most flavor out of it |
00:35.37 | NightHawkTheSane | except it ruins the flavor. :P |
00:36.24 | Azurewrath | Beer > Coffee. So what? ;) |
00:36.29 | chutwig | i don't like coffee anyawy |
00:36.32 | chutwig | makes my stomach go all wrong |
00:36.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ... beer and coffee are rather opposing drinks. :P |
00:36.34 | chutwig | i drink tea |
00:36.38 | trh | Azurewrath: that depends on the time ;) |
00:36.44 | chutwig | teezeit! |
00:36.46 | Roartindon | hmm.. is wowace.com down for anyone else? |
00:36.48 | Gnarfoz | water > all |
00:36.49 | Azurewrath | jup.. tea is fine |
00:36.51 | trh | Azurewrath: i wouldn't drink a beer after waking up ;) |
00:36.55 | chutwig | langweilig |
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00:37.30 | Azurewrath | trh: depends.. when camping you can always have a beer ;) |
00:37.43 | trh | Azurewrath: hehe |
00:38.23 | trh | the last beer i had was a root beer.. hehe |
00:38.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, I could go for a root beer |
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00:39.13 | trh | ya.. i hadn't one in like 4 years and finally bought some :) |
00:39.17 | Kaelten | anyone have any idea why wowace is down? |
00:39.20 | Kaelten | or how long it has been down? |
00:39.47 | nymbia | it's been going very slow |
00:39.48 | Gnarfoz | I like root beer :> |
00:39.49 | Roartindon | Kaelten: I can ping it fine |
00:39.55 | Roartindon | I just can't http/svn to it |
00:39.57 | nymbia | i got home from work and hit my bookmark |
00:40.00 | trh | Kaelten: looks like the services are down |
00:40.08 | nymbia | that was 30minutes or so ago |
00:40.20 | nymbia | the forum index finished loading just now |
00:40.53 | Kaelten | try now nymbia |
00:40.56 | Kaelten | I just rebooted |
00:41.31 | trh | Kaelten: the forums are still slow, wiki is ok, files.wowace.com index is ok |
00:41.45 | Kaelten | hrm I wonder why the forums would be slow. |
00:42.06 | trh | Kaelten: svn is ok too |
00:42.24 | CIA-31 | 03kaelten * r33929 10cgProfiler/ (8 files in 5 dirs): |
00:42.24 | CIA-31 | cgProfiler - |
00:42.24 | CIA-31 | - Lots of stuff, mob health now embedded. |
00:43.02 | Kaelten | wtf 35 load? |
00:43.23 | trh | Kaelten: sounds like some kind of dos ;) |
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00:44.01 | Gnarfoz | hopefully not ms-dos |
00:44.02 | kergoth | heh, ouch |
00:44.04 | Kaelten | heh, |
00:44.04 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
00:44.16 | Kaelten | hrm its dying down now, maybe it was soom boot up lag |
00:44.21 | nymbia | Kaelten: speedy, thanks |
00:44.50 | trh | Kaelten: tried 'top' to see what's eating performance? =) |
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00:45.48 | Kaelten | its all find now. |
00:45.58 | Kaelten | load is down to .36 |
00:46.35 | trh | forums work too |
00:46.42 | Garoun | yay for reboot :D |
00:47.00 | trh | sounds alot like a windows server... reboot fixes everything :P |
00:47.36 | Kaelten | anywho have fun |
00:49.19 | trh | http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5957/gmek8.jpg |
00:49.20 | trh | lol :) |
00:50.07 | Flick | Pew Pew macro attack. Love it. |
00:50.35 | NightHawkTheSane | hah, nice |
00:50.44 | Gnarfoz | lol nice one |
00:51.04 | Flick | and, greetings all. First time on #wowace (heh, first time on irc in about 10 years, too) |
00:51.33 | xlvii | welcome flick |
00:51.50 | Flick | thanks! |
00:51.59 | CIA-31 | 03kaelten * r33930 10cgProfiler/npcs/npcs.lua: |
00:51.59 | CIA-31 | cgProfiler - |
00:51.59 | CIA-31 | - removed debug code |
00:54.34 | ilifin | trh, damn |
00:54.50 | ilifin | trh, I tried to pull that with a '/hug' petition |
00:54.52 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33931 10Aloft/Modules/ (ManaBar.lua ManaData.lua): |
00:54.52 | CIA-31 | Aloft: |
00:54.53 | CIA-31 | - ManaData now listens for a few more events like it should have |
00:54.53 | CIA-31 | - ManaBar reorganized a bit in preparation for extra options |
00:54.59 | ilifin | got some stuck up boring person who didn't want to play |
00:55.00 | ilifin | :( |
00:55.31 | ckknight | welcome, Flick |
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00:55.44 | Flick | Thanks too. |
00:59.46 | Flick | Question for those awake - how can I get a login account for Trac? |
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01:01.18 | trh | Flick: doesn't the forums or wiki account work? |
01:02.00 | Flick | Good question. Forums/wiki accounts are separate, I assumed the same of trac... |
01:02.28 | Flick | ... nope, neither work. |
01:02.41 | trh | Flick: ask kaelten if he comes online =) |
01:03.03 | Flick | aye aye. |
01:05.25 | trh | anyone knows if there's a way to check how much space a variable takes up in memory? |
01:06.04 | Flick | well... variables themselves take up a fixed amount of space. I assume you mean the objects they reference? |
01:06.14 | trh | mainly tables |
01:06.41 | trh | ... which objects basically are |
01:06.54 | Flick | tables and userdata objects (wow private objs). |
01:07.29 | Flick | I don't believe so. Such a method would have to walk the table tree and sum up the sizes of all the individual members... and account for the overhead of each table hash. |
01:07.49 | trh | yeah.. but that'd still be a estimate :/ |
01:08.13 | trh | ah well.. i'll do it with 2.1.0 |
01:08.22 | trh | just create a addon with a function referencing the table |
01:08.31 | trh | load it once, look how much space it takes = basis overhead |
01:08.34 | trh | load it again with the table |
01:08.49 | trh | calc the difference, got my result :) |
01:08.50 | Flick | Yup. |
01:09.18 | Flick | Looked at the Lua code & manual, don't think there's a way to do that on a per-object basis. Lua programs aren't supposed to care about memory. :) |
01:10.05 | nymbia | could collectgarbage, nil it, collectgarbage again, and check the difference |
01:10.12 | nymbia | but that requires nilling it |
01:10.23 | Flick | and also that nothing else references it. |
01:10.27 | trh | nymbia: ah.. yeah.. that could work too :) |
01:10.55 | trh | nymbia: gonna try that tomorrow.. tnx |
01:11.07 | nymbia | Flick: yeah that too |
01:13.12 | snirks | nothing annoys me more than when drunk people think they are right |
01:13.14 | snirks | when they are wrong |
01:13.45 | nymbia | i dunno what you're talking about |
01:13.50 | nymbia | drunk people are always right |
01:13.52 | Flick | *hic* |
01:13.53 | nymbia | obviously. |
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01:15.04 | trh | snirks: wait until they sleep and decorate them! |
01:15.09 | trh | snirks: and then take pictures! |
01:17.49 | Tain | Hey I've been drinking tonight. |
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01:21.59 | Diao | hmm |
01:21.59 | Diao | strange |
01:22.04 | Diao | pitbull isn't updating party frames properly |
01:22.05 | Diao | the numbers are right |
01:22.08 | Diao | but the bars don't update |
01:23.16 | hyperChipmunk | someone on my server asked me about that too |
01:23.28 | hyperChipmunk | i figured he was just a moron |
01:23.32 | nymbia | lol |
01:23.42 | Diao | lol |
01:23.44 | NightHawkTheSane | you'd have figured that anyway, though |
01:24.12 | nymbia | Diao: make sure all your copies of AceEvent are current |
01:24.32 | trh | or install the current Ace2 standalone ;) |
01:24.55 | trh | works too.. at least if all your ace addons have set optionaldeps to Ace2 |
01:24.57 | Diao | oh nm |
01:25.00 | Diao | reloading my UI fixed it |
01:25.03 | Diao | and i am using SAL |
01:25.07 | Diao | that was weird |
01:25.10 | snirks | trh: i was on vent the whole evening, but the guildleader kept telling me to get on vent |
01:25.18 | nymbia | that's kinda odd |
01:26.17 | trh | sometimes the blizzard ui reacts kinda strange anyway.. i.e. sometimes i cant zoom in/out via mousewheel |
01:26.24 | trh | if i reloadui it works again |
01:27.11 | nymbia | yeah it could be events just failing to fire |
01:27.21 | hyperChipmunk | thats' still a problem |
01:27.22 | nymbia | happened a lot for party members back near release |
01:28.02 | trh | that party/raid stuff is pretty bugged.. the combat log messages for your party members are flagged hostile if you're in a raid |
01:28.04 | nymbia | but then again if DogTag's getting the events then PitBull_Health should too |
01:28.10 | trh | and heal spells from raid members too |
01:28.20 | nymbia | yeah |
01:28.21 | trh | but damage isn't from raid members |
01:28.23 | trh | very strange |
01:31.01 | trh | lol.... programmers and old people have a lot in common..... we're both always looking for ways to control leaks and dumps. |
01:31.15 | Diao | lol |
01:31.27 | Flick | ah, but what if you're both programmer and old people? Niagara dumptrucks? |
01:31.41 | trh | Flick: there are none :P |
01:32.54 | Flick | Define 'old people' and I'll get back to ya. :) |
01:32.54 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah everyone knows no one over thirty knows how to use a computer :P |
01:32.54 | trh | lets say older than 55 |
01:32.58 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: well.. the profs at our university do know that and some are 50-55 |
01:33.18 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: that was sarcasm. ;) |
01:33.31 | NightHawkTheSane | And I'm pretty sure this guy is both old and a programmer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth |
01:34.29 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: most of his work is theoretical ;) |
01:34.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Maybe so, but I bet he can still program fairly well. :) |
01:38.44 | hyperChipmunk | evening, clad |
01:38.49 | cladhaire | evening =) |
01:39.01 | Flick | greetings. :) |
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01:40.45 | CIA-31 | PitBull: |
01:40.45 | CIA-31 | - fix wau file |
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02:00.44 | kergoth | how much is the epic flying mount skill again? |
02:00.51 | NightHawkTheSane | 5kg |
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02:01.56 | kergoth | hrmph |
02:02.28 | NightHawkTheSane | and 200 for the mount |
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02:03.11 | Diao | Wait until next patch when it costs 3k |
02:03.25 | vhaarr | are you kidding? |
02:03.59 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd seriously have to choke a bitch if that were true |
02:04.07 | nymbia | same |
02:04.32 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
02:05.12 | chutwig | if they did that i would have to imagine turning irvine into a parking lot |
02:05.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I got my epic flyer on my second character last week, finally |
02:05.35 | kergoth | i still dont have it on my first :( only up to 1700g now that i'm done iwth most of the netherstorm quests |
02:05.35 | Tain | I blame Rosie O'Donnell |
02:06.00 | Diao | it's true |
02:06.04 | Diao | at least on test realm |
02:06.07 | chutwig | fat pile of shit |
02:06.09 | vhaarr | jesus christ |
02:06.11 | Diao | I checked the price for 300 training |
02:06.13 | Diao | they dropped it to 3k |
02:06.21 | chutwig | okay |
02:06.23 | chutwig | if that makes it into final |
02:06.25 | vhaarr | that's just great |
02:06.32 | chutwig | i will murder everyone with my fists of fury |
02:06.45 | nymbia | it might just be so more people can test out the netherwing quests |
02:06.56 | vhaarr | hope so |
02:06.58 | Diao | could be |
02:06.59 | chutwig | and there will be no end to the destruction i shall wreak |
02:07.06 | Diao | I'm still not buying my epic flying |
02:07.08 | Diao | until next patch |
02:07.09 | Diao | just in case |
02:07.20 | NightHawkTheSane | It damn well better be just for the test realm. |
02:07.58 | ilifin | what |
02:08.03 | ilifin | 3k gold for epic training? |
02:08.06 | ilifin | christ |
02:08.20 | ilifin | I've almost saved up 5k on my second char >:/ |
02:08.45 | NightHawkTheSane | I can see them lowering it in like 6 monoths or so if they come out with another expansion.. but its really too early |
02:09.28 | Shadowed | oh wow |
02:09.30 | Shadowed | 3k flying? |
02:09.35 | Kinkx | yea, I dunno, they would have to call it a "bug fix" to change it this early |
02:10.10 | ilifin | I think it's to stop the sheer amount of people buying from goldsellers |
02:10.10 | Shadowed | It's been about 4 months since TBC came out =p |
02:10.10 | Shadowed | 3k vs 5k wont chance much |
02:10.10 | ilifin | I bet they had atleast a 200% increase in buyers |
02:10.11 | ilifin | if not even more |
02:10.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadowed: yeah and how long was it before epic land mounts dropped from 1k to 600? |
02:10.23 | Kinkx | 5k is not a lot |
02:10.25 | ilifin | and the goldspam gets worse every day |
02:10.27 | Shadowed | For the new player, they're still going to spend around 1,600g in mounts alone so they'd basically be broke |
02:10.31 | Shadowed | NightHawkTheSane: Damned if i know |
02:10.33 | ilifin | I get 100+ whispers a day |
02:10.40 | nymbia | on the pvp test realm right this instant, 300 flying is 5000g. for alliance, anyway. |
02:10.45 | ilifin | and there's a constant spam of trade and guild recruit by atleast 3 bots |
02:11.03 | Diao | mm |
02:11.04 | Shadowed | Well, the people who could farm 5k could farm 3k, so I doubt it'll change much |
02:11.12 | Diao | Guess they changed it back after letting people test netherwing or something |
02:11.23 | Diao | Who knows |
02:11.30 | Shadowed | Why would they reduce it by 2k just for testing, that makes no sense =p |
02:11.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadowed: it would for the people who cant be bothered to farm an extra 2k though |
02:11.42 | Diao | no clue |
02:11.43 | Diao | lol |
02:12.02 | Kinkx | Seems to be 5k still, nymbia just checked ;p |
02:12.20 | kenlyric | it took me much longer to save gold for my epic land mount than it did for my epic flying mount. |
02:12.30 | Shadowed | Well in that case they probably don't care about mounts either way so they wouldn't buy gold |
02:12.36 | kenlyric | and that was only because the dropped the epic gorund mount right at the time i was saving up for one. |
02:13.29 | Shadowed | It could be that it's going to be 3k, but the change didn't go out until next server reboot, and PvE crashed |
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02:14.07 | chutwig | you could get a lot of money towards the mount just from quests |
02:14.15 | chutwig | if you saved a lot of quests for when you hit 70 |
02:14.22 | Shadowed | Not really! |
02:14.45 | chutwig | i made a couple of thousand just from doing quests at 70 |
02:15.07 | Shadowed | I'm doing 1 -> 70 and probably will make around 2,000g in the end, but I had to spend 1k for flying and 500 for epic land |
02:15.34 | NightHawkTheSane | I dunno. On my warrior, I made about 1.5k from 60->70, and the rest was pretty easy from a small amount of farming and questing. But on my shaman it was a lot harder for some reason. *shrug* |
02:15.49 | nymbia | save blade's edge, netherstorm, and shadowmoon for 70 and you'll make a TON of money |
02:15.50 | chutwig | poop shield |
02:16.09 | Shadowed | yeah nymbia |
02:16.11 | Shadowed | good luck with that |
02:16.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadowed: psh, you can afford your land mount almost entirely pre-60 if you know what you're doing. |
02:16.19 | nymbia | huh? |
02:16.22 | chutwig | you can avoid doing either SMV or netherstorm |
02:16.23 | chutwig | but not both |
02:16.34 | chutwig | not unless you do all your levelling on rested |
02:16.40 | Shadowed | Goal was to powerlevel to 70, not spend time worrying about money |
02:16.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ... no, I hit 70 on my shammy not even doing ANY quests in either zone. |
02:16.48 | kenlyric | at the very least, even with minimal instancing, you should be 70 shortly after going into netherstorm, pluse all of shadowmoon. |
02:16.54 | Shadowed | You were either doing instances, or grinding |
02:16.56 | kenlyric | two gathering professions doesn't hurt, either :) |
02:17.01 | Shadowed | but theres no way you could have BEM, NS and SMV |
02:17.06 | Diao | Yeah |
02:17.09 | Diao | Only way is to pure grind |
02:17.11 | Diao | I did it on my new warrior |
02:17.12 | chutwig | if i need money now i just go farm airs |
02:17.17 | NightHawkTheSane | well, I didnt have BEM, but I had both NS/SMV undone |
02:17.19 | Diao | instance/grind only from 61-70 |
02:17.22 | Diao | after doing ONLY hellfire quests |
02:17.23 | Kinkx | Money is easy to get at lvl 70, just farm and sell stuff, primals, herbs, minerals, etc. |
02:17.27 | Diao | I skipped everything else |
02:17.32 | nymbia | a friend of mine just got hit alt to 70 halfway through nagrand, with just rested for the first 1.5 levels |
02:17.40 | Shadowed | Yeah i'm just waiting for 2.1 to hit anyway, and going to burn through herbs and sell potions |
02:18.00 | Shadowed | He was probably grinding areas or doing instances, but it's impossible to hit 70 off Nagrand, HFP, ZAngar and Terokkar. |
02:18.00 | kenlyric | I'd sell them now :) |
02:18.14 | Kinkx | Sell a primal might each day |
02:18.17 | Shadowed | Herbs are rather hard to sell, potions aren't |
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02:24.06 | CIA-31 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r33933 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua BulkMail.toc CHANGELOG): |
02:24.06 | CIA-31 | BulkMail: 0.8.0 |
02:24.06 | CIA-31 | - Code clean-up, optimizations too numerous to count |
02:24.21 | hyperChipmunk | >7D |
02:24.25 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
02:24.45 | hyperChipmunk | that was long overdue =P |
02:25.13 | kergoth | Shadowed: hmm, pots sell better than the herbs? |
02:25.34 | Shadowed | Depends on your server, but usually |
02:26.23 | Kinkx | Herbs easier to sell on my server, but prices have dropped quite a lot now with the elixir/flask changes that are coming |
02:26.26 | Shadowed | More herbalists with another profession then alchemy so more demand for potions |
02:26.48 | Shadowed | I |
02:26.54 | Shadowed | I'm selling potions not elixirs mainly =p |
02:27.19 | Kinkx | Super Mana potions sell well, rest not so much |
02:27.30 | Shadowed | Super mana potions are going to drop anyway |
02:28.06 | Kinkx | Yea, have 600 dreaming glory that I have saved :) |
02:28.32 | Shadowed | Haven't gotten *that* much yet =p |
02:32.10 | kenlyric | meh at super mana |
02:32.20 | kenlyric | I buy major mana. |
02:32.37 | kenlyric | on my server, a stack of major mana is 4g cheaper than unstable mana. That's *funny* |
02:34.20 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
02:35.30 | Shadowed | Is Ragveil stupidly expensive on your server or something |
02:36.04 | kenlyric | no. |
02:36.07 | kenlyric | alchemists are idiots |
02:36.15 | Shadowed | well |
02:36.29 | kenlyric | or, chinese gold farmers without TBC are idiots |
02:36.29 | Shadowed | mmm |
02:37.32 | kenlyric | I actually haven't discovered if it's cheaper than the mats for unstable/super mana, but when I'm in a hurry it's pretty cheap. |
02:37.37 | kenlyric | 4g a stack. |
02:37.56 | vhaarr | that's a bargain |
02:38.03 | vhaarr | the vials alone cost ~3g |
02:38.07 | kenlyric | unstable mana are 7-8g. |
02:38.16 | kenlyric | no, these are for major man pots. |
02:38.19 | vhaarr | ah |
02:38.20 | kenlyric | *mana |
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02:38.30 | kenlyric | super mana pots are 15g a stack. |
02:38.40 | Shadowed | 18g-20g for us |
02:39.02 | kenlyric | it's just crazy that major mana are 1/2 the price of unstable mana... considering they do the EXACT same thing. |
02:39.31 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd think unstable would be cheaper, the mats are pretty easy, i think |
02:40.22 | vhaarr | yes, 2x ragveil and 1x felweed |
02:40.35 | vhaarr | but remember that the vials are expensive |
02:41.20 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
02:41.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd like to know what they were thinking with 3g for 5. >< |
02:42.10 | vhaarr | Anyone online on live that updates from SVN and can get a raidgroup of 2 people to test a change for me once I commit? |
02:42.33 | kenlyric | well, when they were for flasks that made sense... |
02:42.48 | vhaarr | kenlyric: They were never used for the flasks. |
02:42.52 | vhaarr | except TBC flasks |
02:42.56 | kenlyric | what were they there for? |
02:43.10 | vhaarr | nothing |
02:43.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i think a few raid drop recipes used them |
02:43.18 | vhaarr | nope |
02:43.20 | NightHawkTheSane | like the major rejuv or something? |
02:43.23 | vhaarr | no |
02:43.31 | vhaarr | err yes |
02:43.33 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
02:43.43 | vhaarr | that one used it |
02:43.47 | vhaarr | but nothing else, afaik |
02:43.52 | nymbia | raid drop? haha. discovered! |
02:44.03 | vhaarr | lol |
02:44.07 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=25130 |
02:44.13 | vhaarr | I bought it for 200g like years ago |
02:44.23 | kenlyric | and brilliant wizard oil |
02:44.29 | vhaarr | pft that's not alchemy stuff :P |
02:44.40 | vhaarr | LF Tester for Roster-2.1 commit, PST |
02:44.54 | kenlyric | I didn't say "what where they used for in alchemy" :) |
02:46.05 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: OpenAllBags(1) actually forces them *open*. |
02:46.12 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: or anything non-nil |
02:46.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh. hate. pugs. seriously some days im not sure why I log in at all. |
02:46.28 | hyperChipmunk | i know; why do you mention it |
02:46.42 | vhaarr | because you use 2x OpenAllBags() in BM |
02:47.06 | hyperChipmunk | yea, because i don't want to step on people's addons |
02:47.23 | hyperChipmunk | that way it tries to return it to whatever the user had before |
02:48.02 | vhaarr | ah, so you just show the bags in order to update the container frames |
02:48.06 | hyperChipmunk | right |
02:48.34 | hyperChipmunk | they don't show up in enumerateframes unless they've been 'seen' by the client |
02:48.58 | vhaarr | they're probably not created until the first show or something |
02:49.03 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
02:49.16 | hyperChipmunk | at least, they weren't back when i originally wrote it |
02:49.23 | hyperChipmunk | i haven't actually looked to see that recently |
02:49.29 | vhaarr | meh |
02:49.41 | vhaarr | if it works, it works |
02:49.44 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
02:49.49 | hyperChipmunk | that's what i figure =p |
02:50.11 | hyperChipmunk | the bugs that it creates without it are subtle and annoying |
02:50.22 | hyperChipmunk | i'd rather just be sure |
02:50.28 | vhaarr | indeed |
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02:54.13 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33934 10RosterLib/Roster-2.1/Roster-2.1.lua: .Roster-2.1: Support the new role and ML unit tags in 2.1. |
03:00.46 | vhaarr | dammit it broke in 2.0 |
03:02.53 | hyperChipmunk | retard |
03:03.02 | vhaarr | clearly |
03:03.20 | CIA-31 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r33935 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: |
03:03.21 | CIA-31 | BulkMail: |
03:03.21 | CIA-31 | - Lots of yummy commenting |
03:05.56 | vhaarr | or maybe not |
03:06.12 | vhaarr | just the person testing it that copy/pasted it from http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/RosterLib/Roster-2.1/Roster-2.1.lua |
03:06.23 | vhaarr | "$Revision$" is not a number |
03:06.40 | CIA-31 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r33936 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: |
03:06.40 | CIA-31 | BulkMail: |
03:06.40 | CIA-31 | - more yummy commenting |
03:07.39 | hyperChipmunk | ^--see how i'm pretending to be a real programmer? |
03:07.58 | nymbia | haha |
03:08.00 | NightHawkTheSane | it's "pretending" because real programmers don't actually comment. ;) |
03:08.03 | vhaarr | real programmers don't comment, man, "software engineers" do |
03:08.12 | NightHawkTheSane | hahah |
03:08.13 | nymbia | the only thing i've really bothered to comment is PT3 |
03:08.31 | nymbia | but i dont know if anyone's looked at that code anyway |
03:08.44 | NightHawkTheSane | I did, once, last year. |
03:08.57 | nymbia | heh |
03:09.08 | vhaarr | someone has, but they closed it pretty fast again |
03:09.34 | nymbia | lol |
03:09.35 | hyperChipmunk | there's still a variable in there with an acronym that i haven't a clue to what it stands fo |
03:09.49 | hyperChipmunk | r |
03:10.10 | hyperChipmunk | wtf is pmsqDestination? |
03:10.13 | hyperChipmunk | i have no idea |
03:10.21 | nymbia | rofl |
03:10.27 | hyperChipmunk | something-mail-send-queue? |
03:10.36 | vhaarr | pre-message-queue-destination |
03:10.42 | hyperChipmunk | pending? |
03:10.51 | hyperChipmunk | it made sense when i wrote it! |
03:11.01 | vhaarr | it's the destination that was in the send to box before you start autosending stuff with bulkmail |
03:11.11 | vhaarr | right? |
03:11.18 | hyperChipmunk | previous, then, maybe |
03:11.21 | hyperChipmunk | no |
03:11.25 | vhaarr | hrm |
03:11.27 | hyperChipmunk | that doesn't make sense with the rest of it |
03:11.34 | hyperChipmunk | dude, i have no idea |
03:11.38 | vhaarr | lol |
03:11.47 | kenlyric | I'm confused... why do the blood elves want to fight kael'thas? isn't he their leader? |
03:11.57 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: see the history of shattrath |
03:12.17 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: didn't you take the tour?! yeesh! |
03:12.21 | hyperChipmunk | i'll actually look at the logic of it later tonight or tomorrow; i was just optimizing |
03:12.33 | kenlyric | I took the tour, but that was months ago. |
03:12.54 | NightHawkTheSane | only a 3mo. buffer in your head, eh? should get that upgraded ;) |
03:13.50 | kenlyric | 24 hours, tops |
03:14.08 | hyperChipmunk | besides, i don't think "allying with a demon lord acting in concert with the burning legion" was what the blood elves had in mind when they elected him =x |
03:14.37 | NightHawkTheSane | well, im sure some of them -did- have that in mind. just not the Scryer ones ;) |
03:14.43 | kenlyric | I must have missed that part. |
03:15.14 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the scryers are more or less belfs who realized that kael'thas was a little... what's the word.. viciously evil? |
03:16.46 | TheKarn | ~seen antiarc |
03:17.26 | purl | antiarc <n=Chris@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 21h 44m 10s ago, saying: 'Hahah, oy, I need to go find something to eat.'. |
03:17.46 | hyperChipmunk | ~seen Antiarc|Work |
03:17.58 | purl | antiarc|work <n=cheald@208.187.119.42> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 13m 43s ago, saying: 'Fine :('. |
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03:35.47 | kenlyric | necrosis is the warlock mod that lets me limit my soul shards? |
03:35.54 | ckknight | hey a ll |
03:35.58 | ckknight | all* |
03:36.09 | kenlyric | yo. |
03:36.28 | kenlyric | Just want you to know, I have no complaints, bug reports, or feature requests for pitbull. |
03:36.32 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: pitbull not updating party hp bars apparently |
03:36.39 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: you're the only one =) |
03:36.39 | ckknight | oh? |
03:36.46 | ckknight | in what situation? |
03:37.01 | hyperChipmunk | raid, at least |
03:37.06 | hyperChipmunk | raid frames and party frames |
03:37.07 | kenlyric | I figured for once the first thing you saw in this chan shouldn't be a problem.. and looks like I barely made it :) |
03:37.34 | hyperChipmunk | i didn't get more info, cuz the guy turned off pitbull and put on ct frames |
03:38.11 | hyperChipmunk | apparently, being a healer, those other bars need to be accurate or something |
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03:39.06 | chutwig | hyperChipmunk: i had that problem a few days ago but it seems to be resolved now |
03:39.08 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I'm a healer, I've main-healed with PitBull fine |
03:39.19 | chutwig | it was spitting out a lot of errors regarding Health.lua |
03:39.25 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: check if AceEvent is updated, check if any errors arose |
03:39.45 | hyperChipmunk | i asked about errors, he said none |
03:40.08 | ckknight | whoever this person is is likely not updated fully |
03:40.12 | hyperChipmunk | asking if aceevent is updated would be pretty much impossible; he wouldn't know |
03:40.45 | ckknight | that's the likely culprit, imho, but it could be a PitBull bug which I believe was resolved... |
03:41.04 | hyperChipmunk | well, he just downloaded it from files.wowace.com today |
03:41.18 | hyperChipmunk | there was another guy in here that had the problem personally though |
03:41.22 | hyperChipmunk | Diao? |
03:41.28 | hyperChipmunk | but he said reload fixed it |
03:41.31 | hyperChipmunk | iirc |
03:42.16 | hyperChipmunk | files.wowace.com zips ought to have the latest aceevent in them, no? |
03:42.48 | ckknight | I believe so |
03:43.11 | hyperChipmunk | i don't have any friends, so i can't join a party and see for myself =P |
03:43.31 | hyperChipmunk | i'll check with my buddy when he comes online |
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03:45.10 | ckknight | k |
03:45.38 | Funkeh` | updating script is out of commision it seems, fyi |
03:51.29 | deltron | http://shesalwayscallingme.ytmnd.com/ |
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03:52.58 | CIA-31 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Terestian: |
03:52.58 | CIA-31 | - enrage cleanups |
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04:00.44 | CIA-31 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Netherspite: |
04:00.44 | CIA-31 | - enrage cleanups |
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04:03.25 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r33939 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: SC/Karazhan: different colour engage messages |
04:04.39 | hyperChipmunk | ok yea, my party frame didn't even show up |
04:07.44 | ckknight | any errors? |
04:07.59 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33940 10PitBull/ (18 files in 18 dirs): PitBull - make the early breakout check more intelligent and generic |
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04:10.45 | Spetsdod | Anyone able to answer a few questions? |
04:10.54 | Spetsdod | re: chat hooking |
04:11.18 | ckknight | Spetsdod: blah |
04:11.26 | Spetsdod | =( |
04:12.31 | Spetsdod | I'm hooking ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler and checking against "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER" but it's blocking EVERYTHING including guild chat, says, system messages, etc. |
04:13.01 | ckknight | because you're not returning the hook correctly |
04:13.09 | nymbia | return stuff! |
04:13.10 | ckknight | pastey what you have |
04:13.46 | Funkeh` | nymbia: fix blood guard porung kk |
04:14.04 | Spetsdod | it's on another pc, but I'll see what I can do. |
04:14.16 | ckknight | ace.pastey.net |
04:14.27 | Spetsdod | ? |
04:14.52 | Spetsdod | oh sweet |
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04:20.27 | Spetsdod | okay, so ace.pastey.net/18423 |
04:20.42 | Spetsdod | there is still a lot of verbosity in the mod, cause I want to know when it gets to a certain step or something |
04:20.53 | vhaarr | you need to return at the end of your hook handler |
04:21.04 | vhaarr | just like ckk said, and like the code I linked you the other day demonstrated |
04:21.33 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: no errors |
04:21.46 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: put |return chatmod.hooks["ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler"](event)| at the end |
04:21.51 | Spetsdod | I have been looking at your code, and without understanding the API, and not having any documentation in the code, it's pretty hard to read it and figure out how to make it work. |
04:21.52 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: any idea on how I'd reproduce? |
04:21.58 | hyperChipmunk | no idea |
04:22.05 | hyperChipmunk | i was kiting hemathion, invited my g/f |
04:22.11 | Spetsdod | vhaarr: at the end like after everything else? |
04:22.18 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: oh, it doesn't show up in combat |
04:22.20 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: yes |
04:22.24 | hyperChipmunk | i didn't realize her frame didn't show up until a few minutes later, when she was about to switch chars |
04:22.25 | ckknight | should show up right after, though |
04:22.27 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
04:22.47 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: you just have to understand hooking in general - you are injecting yourself in the execution path, so if you don't continue it by calling the original handler, then the thing that made the call initially will not get anything back. |
04:22.48 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i was still kiting =P |
04:22.56 | hyperChipmunk | that explains it then |
04:23.16 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: which is the whole deal here, you *want* it to not return anything if it's a whisper you want to hide, right |
04:23.25 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: but other than that, you always continue the chain |
04:23.27 | Spetsdod | thanks. I'm working on learning that. I'm new to hooking for sure. yes, that is right. |
04:24.04 | Spetsdod | If I receive a whisper, I want to check a few things, then if it doesn't match an okay condition, drop it. otherwise keep going. |
04:24.06 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: If you look at the code I linked you, it does |return orig(event, ...)| at the end. |
04:24.29 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: right, and "drop it" actually means "return nil", or simply "return", which implies nil. |
04:24.41 | Spetsdod | I saw that, but I didn't understand the syntax and I couldn't find anything on it |
04:24.58 | vhaarr | 'orig' is just the variable name where I stored the original handler |
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04:26.32 | Spetsdod | adding the return at the end throws an error. "attempt to call field 'ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler' (a nil value)" |
04:26.40 | ckknight | pastey |
04:26.45 | xyu | I like to use Grid for all my unitframe needs. however the layouts are for 10man only :( is there any 3 man layout or 5man layout ;; |
04:26.58 | xyu | if i go to "none" it just removes the box completely in PvP |
04:27.05 | xyu | can't have that >< |
04:27.54 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33941 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull-Portrait - show 3D portraits in WoW 2.1 again |
04:29.11 | kergoth | is something up with littlewigs on murmur? |
04:29.11 | Spetsdod | hrm, moved the return inside the function and now it works |
04:29.17 | kergoth | it said i was the bomb, then i didnt explode, someone else did. |
04:29.20 | kergoth | seems to be off |
04:29.35 | Kinkx | Anyone want to take a look at the first Ace2 addon that I've made? It's working, but just curious if I've made any mistakes.. it's just a simple target of target addon |
04:29.43 | Kinkx | http://ace.pastey.net/18427-3tmi |
04:29.46 | hyperChipmunk | dude, that's whack, kerg; we all know you is totally da bomb, yo |
04:29.47 | Kinkx | If you want to take a look :) |
04:29.52 | kergoth | lol |
04:30.25 | Spetsdod | pastey is pretty damn cool. someone here write that? |
04:30.49 | deltron | pastey is totally awesome |
04:31.15 | Spetsdod | I've never seen it before, but major kudos to whoever came up with it. |
04:31.18 | NightHawkTheSane | pastey is like a two hour code job fancied up a bit. it is handy though :D |
04:31.54 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: There are literally hundreds of those sites around. |
04:32.00 | vhaarr | If not thousands. |
04:32.03 | kergoth | i like pastey though, its simple |
04:32.09 | vhaarr | they're all simple :P |
04:32.16 | vhaarr | but yeah, pastey is nice |
04:32.43 | vhaarr | I guess the most famous one is pastebin.com, though. |
04:33.45 | Funkeh` | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=39221&mirror=3 |
04:33.49 | Funkeh` | awesome |
04:34.02 | deltron | yeeuh paintball in the morning, nite all |
04:35.54 | Spetsdod | Can SendChatMessage be done silently? |
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04:39.11 | nymbia | depends what you mean by 'silently' |
04:40.20 | Spetsdod | I'm using it to send a message back to a sender that doesn't meet my filter requirements, but it is showing on my screen what was sent. I just want it to notify the sender, and not bother me. |
04:40.47 | ckknight | you can |
04:40.59 | ckknight | you gotta make sure CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM doesn't do a message |
04:41.09 | Spetsdod | okay |
04:41.17 | Aenslaed | ckknight: found a bug with pitbull. If you shapeshift while in combat, the health bar no longer updates. It stays at full |
04:41.30 | ckknight | Aenslaed: need to level my druid... |
04:41.34 | Aenslaed | health text is correct |
04:41.40 | deltron | lol ckknight |
04:41.45 | ckknight | Aenslaed: any errors? |
04:42.01 | nymbia | ckknight: people have been reporting that with party hp bars as well |
04:42.04 | Aenslaed | health bar stays at full, health text is correct |
04:42.16 | ckknight | Aenslaed: I asked you if you had any errors |
04:42.32 | Aenslaed | no |
04:42.55 | ckknight | Aenslaed: want to disable buggrabber and bugsack and see if you can reproduce? possible something's getting lost |
04:43.13 | Aenslaed | actually, yes, just noticed the countdown on buggrabber |
04:43.18 | Aenslaed | i'm in ab right now, sec |
04:44.41 | Aenslaed | a bunch of local db errors in health.lua. |
04:44.52 | Spetsdod | okay, so I thought I understood how to prevent it from printing a message, but I was wrong. In my evaluate block, I have " SendChatMessage("I don't know you", "WHISPER", nil, player) do I need to move that to a separate function? |
04:44.56 | Aenslaed | pitbull_health/health.lua:103: attempt to index local 'db' (a nil value) |
04:46.49 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: but, err, isn't your mod just a copy of my ShutUp? |
04:46.59 | vhaarr | seems like you could just use that instead |
04:47.39 | Aenslaed | ckknight: also has the same error for mana.lua. 76 |
04:48.07 | Aenslaed | pitbull_aura\aura.lua:508: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
04:48.10 | Spetsdod | Well, it does most of the same stuff, but it's also not done, and I'm trying to learn, and well, I wrote it. And who's to say you didn't copy ShutUp from me? *wink* |
04:48.19 | Aenslaed | and barfader |
04:48.19 | vhaarr | I am. |
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04:50.30 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33942 10PitBull/Health/Health.lua: PitBull-Health - add thingy to report the situation to me |
04:50.37 | ckknight | Aenslaed: update and run |
04:51.06 | Funkeh` | ckknight: the updater scipt is down |
04:51.13 | Funkeh` | script* |
04:51.18 | ckknight | svn |
04:51.20 | ckknight | I dunno |
04:53.37 | Aenslaed | was it only health.lua that got changed? |
04:55.14 | Spetsdod | This is boggling. If SendChatMessage is in a conditional block by CHAT_MSG_WHISPER and the return without printing anything is in a subsequent conditional block, how does the block ever get evaluated? 8) |
04:55.31 | nymbia | huh? |
04:55.34 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33943 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.toc: PitBull_BarFader - add PitBull_Health, PitBull_Mana optional dep |
04:55.37 | Spetsdod | it works, but I don't understand why. |
04:55.42 | vhaarr | I would guess SendChatMessage is async. |
04:55.48 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33944 10PitBull_Banzai/PitBull_Banzai.toc: PitBull_Banzai - added PitBull_Health optional dep |
04:55.49 | nymbia | it goes to the server |
04:56.18 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33945 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.toc: PitBull_EstimatedHeals - added PitBull_Health optional dep |
04:56.28 | vhaarr | Your code continues to execute and then gets run a second time when you get the server response. |
04:57.09 | Spetsdod | so CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM isn't specifically my message to another player, it is the server responding that I have sent a message and telling me what I said. |
04:57.29 | Spetsdod | okay that clicks. |
04:57.53 | nymbia | most events are server initiated |
04:58.01 | nymbia | or they wouldnt be events, just calls |
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05:05.49 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33946 10BigWigs/Plugins/TargetMonitor.lua: BigWigs: TargetMonitor: Iterate BigWigs.modules instead of using :IterateModules, since it can't be nested. |
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05:12.34 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33947 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: .AceModuleCore-2.0: Currently, you can't nest calls to :IterateModules without unforeseen and bad consequences, so now we error if you do. Hopefully this'll be fixed soonish, though. |
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05:19.05 | CIA-31 | MorgDKP: |
05:19.05 | CIA-31 | - test commit |
05:21.29 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33949 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: .AceModuleCore-2.0 - can now nest calls to :IterateModules() |
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05:37.00 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: ping |
05:38.47 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: sup |
05:39.11 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: is there a way to make manufac -not- show recipes in the 'can make section' when i'm only missing vendor stuff? |
05:39.23 | nymbia | uhhh |
05:39.25 | nymbia | maybe. |
05:40.26 | NightHawkTheSane | that's a "Hmm, you know, I never considered that it can't do that" maybe, isn't it. :P |
05:40.55 | nymbia | naw that's actually how it worked at first |
05:41.32 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i know. I just noticed it changed just now. :) |
05:41.53 | nymbia | heh |
05:47.30 | CIA-31 | 03kemayo * r33951 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Daily tag == y. |
05:47.37 | Kemayo | Better than 't', anyway. |
05:47.51 | Arrowmaster | but y |
05:47.54 | Arrowmaster | haha |
05:48.07 | NightHawkTheSane | ~whaleslap Arrowmaster |
05:48.09 | purl | ACTION beats Arrowmaster upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
05:48.19 | Kemayo | Ima cut you, betch. |
05:50.00 | KarlThePagan | hmm i'm trying to fix Chronometer to monitor Shadowfiend |
05:50.30 | KarlThePagan | but I'm not sure how to prevent it from acting as a targeted spell (thus going away if my current target dies) |
05:50.52 | art3mis | monitor its cool down or its life? |
05:51.12 | KarlThePagan | cooldown |
05:51.18 | KarlThePagan | rather just the duration of the spell |
05:51.26 | KarlThePagan | similarly to PWS or SWP |
05:52.05 | KarlThePagan | 3rd parameter of Chronometer:AddTimer is "targeted" but it doesn't seem to be respected |
05:52.35 | art3mis | well |
05:52.41 | art3mis | its a bit more complicated than that |
05:52.54 | art3mis | cuz the fiends can take damage |
05:53.01 | art3mis | and go away long before the time expires |
05:53.21 | art3mis | if an aoe hits or it takes aggro that is |
05:53.41 | art3mis | so you'd almost have to /focus on it |
05:53.59 | art3mis | for its life to test the timer |
05:54.12 | KarlThePagan | I don't need it to be perfect ;) |
05:54.23 | art3mis | but if yer not concerned with that just make a bar count down from 15 ;P |
05:54.27 | KarlThePagan | yea |
05:54.48 | art3mis | and macro its execution with the spell being cast ;P |
05:54.50 | KarlThePagan | looking into things that call StartTimer - so I can force it to respect the "targeted" option for the bar |
05:54.52 | art3mis | and replace it ;P |
05:55.08 | art3mis | that would prolly be the easiest way |
05:57.27 | kergoth | candydice seems better doen than chronometer, just needs more modules for classes other than rogues |
05:57.27 | kergoth | heh |
05:57.48 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33952 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0: Fix printUsage for type=text+validate=table and type=range, and possibly type=text with multiToggle. |
05:58.37 | Arrowmaster | i think trying to modifiy chronometer for 2.1 is also going to end up being worse than either a completely new mod or modifing a less complex mod |
05:58.53 | KarlThePagan | aw |
05:58.54 | vhaarr | I've started, it's not pretty. |
05:59.04 | KarlThePagan | I suppose I'll have to adapt |
05:59.06 | Arrowmaster | lol vhaarr i just noticed that bug earlyer |
05:59.08 | kergoth | should just start something new |
05:59.15 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: well it should be working now :) |
05:59.21 | vhaarr | kergoth: indeed |
05:59.28 | vhaarr | and just ninja all the data from chronometer |
05:59.40 | vhaarr | I've tried to clean up the chronometer code, but ... |
05:59.41 | Arrowmaster | why ninja data when the 2.1 api provides it |
06:01.07 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r33953 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: sync rebirth, remove wing buffet code |
06:01.45 | Funkeh` | in 2.1 you won't need any libraries of hot/dot times |
06:01.49 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
06:02.26 | Arrowmaster | one thing im not sure if any librarys already do but would be nice for a debuff bars mod would be figuring out a unitid for when you cast spells instead of just having the unit name from the UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT event |
06:02.32 | KarlThePagan | well you will for shadowfiend ;) |
06:02.49 | Arrowmaster | shadowfiend isnt a debuff |
06:02.50 | KarlThePagan | it's not a buff on you or a debuff on your target |
06:03.31 | KarlThePagan | heh, and there needs to be a special case for the 2pc Incarnate Regalia bonus |
06:03.47 | Arrowmaster | whats that bonus? |
06:03.52 | Funkeh` | what does that do |
06:04.26 | KarlThePagan | 3 seconds longer |
06:04.33 | KarlThePagan | your fiend stays up for 18 sec not 15 |
06:04.40 | KarlThePagan | and has a tiny bit more hp |
06:04.47 | Funkeh` | ZOMG |
06:04.52 | KarlThePagan | very hot |
06:04.54 | Funkeh` | SPECIAL CASE11! |
06:05.08 | KarlThePagan | heh |
06:05.34 | Funkeh` | it won't happen unless they suddenly start scannign your gear, which won't happen |
06:05.44 | Wobin | oh man BONUS |
06:05.52 | KarlThePagan | yea i noticed chronometer doesn't do that... only scans talents |
06:05.57 | KarlThePagan | :P |
06:06.27 | KarlThePagan | but i fixed my problem |
06:06.58 | Arrowmaster | blizzard should just fucking put in unique buff/debuff identifiers and a way to check for the hidden buffs from set bonuses |
06:07.27 | Funkeh` | lol im shocked they added hot/dot timers |
06:07.34 | Funkeh` | what im not shocked at is how shit the system is |
06:07.44 | Arrowmaster | would actually be interesting to see all the hidden buffs |
06:07.50 | Funkeh` | infact its completely shit without a mod like omnicc enabled |
06:07.51 | KarlThePagan | very nice |
06:08.12 | Funkeh` | the 'clock' cooldown is stupid, the default ui should do numeral cooldown |
06:08.13 | Arrowmaster | i actually hate the cooldown spinners on the buff/debuffs |
06:08.20 | KarlThePagan | heh |
06:08.39 | Arrowmaster | i hope theres a way to remove just the cooldown spinner from buffs/debuffs but not actionbars |
06:09.09 | Funkeh` | with oomnicc enabled, the number appeared on front of teh debuff and the cooldown animation wasn't really noticable |
06:09.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah but then you cant really see the debuff icon and know which is which |
06:09.45 | Funkeh` | i suppose you can filter own debuffs |
06:09.53 | Funkeh` | then increase the scale fo them or something |
06:10.01 | Arrowmaster | i just want good candybars for debuffs |
06:10.33 | Funkeh` | mm |
06:12.02 | Funkeh` | ooo |
06:12.23 | Arrowmaster | i really wish the combat log event system was different and during every one of the combat CHAT_MSG_* events there were special unitids that refered to the units being referenced in the msg |
06:12.26 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4836-OmniCC.html 3rd post |
06:13.32 | kergoth | so in 2.1 can you tell the difference between the deadly poison stack applied by you and the one applied by someone else? |
06:13.45 | hyperChipmunk | ought to |
06:13.46 | Funkeh` | yes |
06:13.50 | Arrowmaster | meh id rather just have a unitframe addon just not include the cooldown spinners on debuffs |
06:13.51 | Funkeh` | it only times your debuffs |
06:13.51 | kergoth | nice |
06:13.54 | Funkeh` | not others |
06:13.58 | kergoth | <3 |
06:14.28 | Arrowmaster | rogues bitch, warlocks finally get a way to tell there own debuffs from other warlocks <3 |
06:14.34 | CIA-31 | 03karlthepagan * r33954 10Chronometer/ (Core/Chronometer.lua Data/Priest.lua): |
06:14.34 | CIA-31 | Chronometer: |
06:14.34 | CIA-31 | - added shadowfiend timer |
06:14.34 | CIA-31 | - targeted == 0 argument in AddTimer will now set the spell target = "none" |
06:14.53 | Funkeh` | KarlThePagan: zomg |
06:15.03 | KarlThePagan | 1st commit in ... forever |
06:15.05 | KarlThePagan | :P |
06:15.11 | Funkeh` | :p |
06:15.23 | KarlThePagan | that basically means... targeted does *something* now |
06:15.26 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
06:16.03 | KarlThePagan | tested & working for shadow word pain vs shadowfiend |
06:16.06 | KarlThePagan | goodnight |
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06:16.47 | Funkeh` | nn |
06:17.29 | kergoth | goddamnit, dewdrop still closes while i'm typing in a range text box |
06:17.57 | KarlThePagan | QQ primal might mutes never proc for me |
06:18.14 | Funkeh` | i get that sometimes kergoth |
06:18.26 | Funkeh` | it won't disapear if you keep your mouse over the original menu |
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06:28.25 | Funkeh` | later |
06:32.24 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33955 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull_CastBar - no longer show the creepy head of the graphics designer. |
06:33.29 | nymbia | aww no more samwise? :( |
06:33.39 | nymbia | lol |
06:33.49 | CIA-31 | 03arrowmaster * r33956 10GoldenRun/: GoldenRun: creating directory |
06:35.34 | NightHawkTheSane | aww... |
06:37.52 | Antiarc | Any Rails users here? |
06:37.58 | Antiarc | #rubyonrails is being no help >:( |
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06:48.25 | CIA-31 | 03kergoth * r33957 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: XPBarNone: respond to the SharedMedia_SetGlobal event, so it obeys !SurfaceControl. |
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07:00.31 | VII-Beherit | found a typo in AceTab-2.0.lua :D |
07:00.32 | VII-Beherit | Documentation: http://www..wowace.com/index.php/AceTab-2.0 |
07:00.37 | VII-Beherit | 1 dot too much :P |
07:06.14 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33958 10Aloft/Modules/ManaBar.lua: |
07:06.14 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
07:06.14 | CIA-31 | - ManaBar: fixed position updates not applying immediately |
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07:11.38 | CIA-31 | 03arrowmaster * r33959 10GoldenRun/ (GoldenRun.lua GoldenRun.toc Libs/): |
07:11.38 | CIA-31 | GoldenRun: |
07:11.38 | CIA-31 | -Inital import |
07:11.38 | CIA-31 | -Remake of Rowne's GoldenRun addon that died in 1.10 |
07:11.38 | CIA-31 | -Has two ways of enabling AutoRun, double tapping forward and double left clicking while holding the right mouse button down |
07:11.39 | CIA-31 | -Double tapping forward is disabled by default because it doesn't work yet, so don't enable it |
07:11.43 | CIA-31 | -This is probably buggy and very unclean right now so consider it extremely early alpha quality |
07:12.39 | Arrowmaster | im probably going to get yelled at for some of the hooking in that |
07:13.36 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: YOUR HOOKS ARE BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD |
07:13.55 | Arrowmaster | you havent even looked at them yet i bet |
07:14.09 | nymbia | obviously ;) |
07:15.03 | Loki|muh | ckknight: I loved the head! :( What is showed instead now? |
07:15.11 | ckknight | blank |
07:18.28 | FISKER_Q | nymbia ! |
07:18.42 | FISKER_Q | Porung keeps evading the dataminer :( |
07:18.48 | FISKER_Q | i think he used hax |
07:20.34 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33960 10PitBull/Spark/ (PitBull_Spark.toc Spark.lua): (log message trimmed) |
07:20.34 | CIA-31 | PitBull_Spark: |
07:20.34 | CIA-31 | - Update toc |
07:20.34 | CIA-31 | - Shred UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_* handlers -- seems the 5 seconds is started when the channel is started rather than finished. yay code simplification! |
07:20.34 | CIA-31 | - NOTE: the current state of showing the timer bar for every spellcast with |
07:20.36 | CIA-31 | probably remain, for two reasons: 1) Checking mana introduces additional |
07:20.40 | CIA-31 | overhead that I don't want and 2) Some spellcasts that invoke the 5 second rule |
07:20.53 | nymbia | FISKER_Q: its your fault |
07:21.05 | ckknight | nymbia: I got a fix, hang on |
07:21.14 | ckknight | well, maybe |
07:22.24 | nymbia | ? |
07:23.13 | ckknight | well, I have a bugfix |
07:23.15 | ckknight | that annoyed me |
07:23.26 | nymbia | oh, sure |
07:23.58 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33961 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: PitBull-Spark - now check UNIT_MANA to see if UnitMana('player') == UnitManaMax('player'), if true, stop the ticker. |
07:24.21 | ckknight | annoyed me when opening boxes |
07:24.35 | nymbia | oh lol |
07:27.06 | FISKER_Q | Wouldn't it be smarter to check if the spell casted took any mana or energy to cast? |
07:27.11 | FISKER_Q | Or is it the same thing? |
07:28.33 | ckknight | nope |
07:28.37 | _icetrain | dunno if you fixed it that last day but the spark resets everytime an autoshot is fired while playing my hunter :) |
07:28.40 | ckknight | since it completes before mana changes |
07:29.04 | nymbia | well the idea would be to defer starting it til a mana change |
07:29.21 | nymbia | then check if the next mana change is negative |
07:29.47 | nymbia | meh.. if it's starting on autoshots, i probably should |
07:34.32 | ckknight | it also does it on using items and such |
07:34.44 | nymbia | yup |
07:34.52 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's really useless for me |
07:34.59 | hyperChipmunk | every time i shoot it goes |
07:35.06 | ckknight | I think doing the UNIT_MANA check would be best |
07:36.06 | hyperChipmunk | there was one other thing that it went on that was really annoying, too, besides items |
07:36.06 | nymbia | yeah.. items and stuff doesnt bother me since you're only using an item every couple of minutes in combat |
07:36.06 | nymbia | but the autoshot thing.. i didnt know about that |
07:36.06 | hyperChipmunk | i said it last night =p |
07:36.06 | nymbia | i didnt see :( |
07:36.08 | hyperChipmunk | and non-mana casts |
07:36.08 | hyperChipmunk | that was it |
07:36.15 | hyperChipmunk | call pet triggers it |
07:36.19 | hyperChipmunk | feed pet |
07:36.38 | hyperChipmunk | tracking |
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07:36.51 | hyperChipmunk | probably pet actions too |
07:36.57 | hyperChipmunk | but i stopped paying attention |
07:37.22 | nymbia | shouldnt be on pet actions |
07:37.52 | hyperChipmunk | oh, racials |
07:37.52 | nymbia | since those should trigger a spellcast event on the pet, and it only watches for em on the player |
07:38.46 | hyperChipmunk | deterrence too =) |
07:38.49 | ckknight | just change it to check UNIT_MANA, I'd say |
07:39.01 | hyperChipmunk | basically everything that happens ever starts it =D |
07:39.02 | nymbia | yeah i am :) |
07:39.19 | nymbia | damn mana events fire like half a second after the cast >.< |
07:39.22 | hyperChipmunk | i farted and it triggered |
07:39.35 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: maybe check regenfu and see how it starts the FSR bar? |
07:39.54 | ckknight | nymbia: no, in the same frame for me |
07:40.02 | ckknight | nymbia: and likely, it's probably more accurate |
07:41.33 | VII-Beherit | when i try to disable the raidframes in pitbull: [2007/04/28 09:47:42-919-x1]: PitBull-r33889\PitBull.lua:2503: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
07:41.33 | VII-Beherit | PitBull-r33889\PitBull.lua:3068: in function `func' |
07:41.33 | VII-Beherit | Dewdrop-2.0-33692 (FuBar):507: in function <...erface\AddOns\FuBar\libs\Dewdrop-2.0\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:446> |
07:41.33 | VII-Beherit | <PROTECTED> |
07:41.36 | VII-Beherit | sry |
07:41.49 | VII-Beherit | http://ace.pastey.net/18488 |
07:41.54 | VII-Beherit | wanted to post that :X |
07:42.05 | hyperChipmunk | nah, error messages are usually okay =) |
07:42.13 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33962 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: |
07:42.13 | CIA-31 | PitBull - Layouts/ABF - make Informational health text only show deficit for friends. |
07:42.13 | CIA-31 | Make target Informational by default |
07:42.15 | VII-Beherit | iam not a friend of spam :D |
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07:42.47 | nymbia | ckknight: in relation to the start of the actual five seconds? you might be right. |
07:43.08 | hyperChipmunk | yea, my guess would be the game uses that |
07:43.25 | nymbia | it's server-side |
07:43.30 | hyperChipmunk | well |
07:43.32 | nymbia | so probably somewhere in the middle |
07:43.39 | hyperChipmunk | i mean that it triggers the mana event |
07:43.48 | hyperChipmunk | whatever, it's 4am |
07:43.50 | nymbia | but who cares about a tenth of a second one way or the other? heh |
07:43.59 | hyperChipmunk | they're likely to be linked |
07:44.55 | hyperChipmunk | my g/f was asking if there was a way to show the actual mana regen numbers |
07:45.03 | hyperChipmunk | i couldn't find one |
07:45.05 | hyperChipmunk | is there? |
07:45.49 | nymbia | ckknight: i'm reverting your change to the energy handler -- they still care about when ticks are gonna be when they're at full energy, perhaps moreso then.. for timing cheap shots ;) |
07:46.06 | ckknight | alright |
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07:48.04 | hyperChipmunk | i heard ckknight's mom was a Cheap Shot |
07:49.08 | sedatedChipmunk | night folks |
07:49.39 | nymbia | night sedatedChipmunk |
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07:50.19 | FISKER_Q | nymbia |
07:50.32 | FISKER_Q | lets be together! |
07:51.08 | sedatedChipmunk | ...except nymbia, who i hope dies in fire and everlasting burnination |
07:51.43 | nymbia | :( |
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07:52.38 | FISKER_Q | i will protect you nymbia! |
07:52.41 | evl | nymbia: I'm still getting right side overflow with spark |
07:52.41 | sedatedChipmunk | <3 |
07:52.50 | evl | nymbia: an how can 1 pixel be enough when the texture itself is 20 |
07:53.15 | |Pixel| | one pixel is always enough :P |
07:53.20 | nymbia | evl: read the anchoring |
07:53.29 | evl | yeah it's center |
07:53.31 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
07:53.40 | nymbia | ... |
07:53.54 | sedatedChipmunk | that's gotta be annoying to get pinged like that |
07:53.55 | nymbia | current_mana = UnitMana('player') |
07:53.58 | nymbia | ER |
07:54.09 | nymbia | powerSpark.texture:SetPoint('CENTER', powerSpark, 'LEFT') |
07:54.19 | |Pixel| | I'm used to ;) |
07:54.34 | the | ack the pings! |
07:54.40 | the | gah! |
07:54.40 | nymbia | anyway |
07:54.45 | nymbia | evl: screenshot it |
07:54.46 | evl | nymbia: i guess it's just purely cosmetic |
07:54.54 | evl | nymbia: i'll try to fraps it |
07:55.05 | nymbia | that works |
07:55.18 | evl | Right now basic stuff is more annoying, if any of the raid members change my healthbars/name texts are still colored from the last person |
07:57.13 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33963 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
07:57.13 | CIA-31 | PitBull_Spark: |
07:57.13 | CIA-31 | - Check that mana. |
07:57.46 | evl | nymbia: did you look at kEnergy, it seems a lot more accurate I dunno exactly how he does it though |
07:59.51 | nymbia | its much more complex, accounts for lag etc |
08:00.01 | evl | mhm |
08:00.03 | nymbia | the idea is for kenergy to take over the ticker if it's present |
08:01.24 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33964 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
08:01.24 | CIA-31 | PitBull_Spark: |
08:01.25 | CIA-31 | - Don't reset the spark's progress to the start if a non-mana spellcast immediately follows a real one. |
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08:12.14 | dotted | wouldn't it be an idea to have an uption in the wowaceupdater (enabled by default) to only download actual releases of an addon? |
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08:13.06 | Nickenyfiken | dotted: define a actual release? |
08:13.12 | nevcairiel | that would mean a whole new functionality |
08:13.41 | dotted | Nickenyfiken those that get on addon sites such as curse |
08:13.57 | nevcairiel | WAU is only able to update from the files page |
08:14.12 | Nickenyfiken | dotted: then only download from those sites |
08:15.29 | dotted | Nickenyfiken i'm not having problems others are - and those problems may or may not scare people away from ace |
08:15.58 | FISKER_Q | not like we should care anyways |
08:16.14 | dotted | why should we not care? |
08:16.36 | Nickenyfiken | Well those that are scaler of beta addons should not use them anyway |
08:16.44 | Nickenyfiken | that's what release sites are made for |
08:17.55 | dotted | problem is noone really knows that the files page only have beta addons (i'm talking about the general addon user) |
08:18.19 | nevcairiel | someone should put a disclaimer in WAU |
08:18.31 | Nickenyfiken | and on the /files page |
08:18.48 | dotted | that wouldnt be a bad idea |
08:19.10 | Nickenyfiken | Something like "Don't crap your pants when your gold is sent to nevcairiel" |
08:19.16 | dotted | :D |
08:20.36 | nevcairiel | weee gold |
08:20.37 | FISKER_Q | adding that is not a problem |
08:20.44 | nevcairiel | now that i already have my mount, damn. |
08:21.39 | Nickenyfiken | Get one for your alt |
08:22.37 | nevcairiel | my stupid alt idles on 63 |
08:23.11 | dotted | my stupid main idles at 42 |
08:23.19 | dotted | :( |
08:24.30 | Nickenyfiken | I hate my other lvl 70 cus he has no swift mount. |
08:24.35 | Nickenyfiken | Refuse to play him :-P |
08:24.40 | FISKER_Q | Has pprovost stopped developing WAU btw? |
08:24.45 | FISKER_Q | Since kaelten wants new developers |
08:24.46 | nevcairiel | I think so |
08:24.53 | nevcairiel | kaelten took over management |
08:25.07 | nevcairiel | i tried volunteering to kaelten for helping, but couldnt really reach him yet :P |
08:25.21 | FISKER_Q | I wanna help too! :P |
08:25.29 | FISKER_Q | Don't know that much yet though |
08:26.17 | Nickenyfiken | Well does it need more development? |
08:26.23 | Nickenyfiken | Just some maintence |
08:26.39 | nevcairiel | it could need a interface overhaul imho |
08:27.08 | FISKER_Q | how? |
08:27.32 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm i am gonna start a C#/MSSQL project on a company in a week |
08:27.41 | Nickenyfiken | Haven't really done any C# in a year |
08:27.50 | nevcairiel | i just recently "learned" C# for a university project |
08:27.56 | nevcairiel | its a real easy language imho |
08:28.07 | nevcairiel | if you know C and PHP and Lua et al |
08:28.30 | Nickenyfiken | yeah it is |
08:28.40 | ckknight | frankly, I think coding it in .NET was a bad plan |
08:28.40 | Nickenyfiken | Even easier if you know Java i think maybe |
08:28.56 | Nickenyfiken | Java is better :-P |
08:30.24 | FISKER_Q | java is crap! :P |
08:30.34 | Nickenyfiken | Better platform support |
08:30.40 | ckknight | at least Java is more portable than .NET |
08:31.20 | Nickenyfiken | My Java updater worked on NIX and Mac without even trying it |
08:33.01 | FISKER_Q | It's not like people use linux and mac anyways |
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08:34.34 | Fisker- | Shouldn't mono take care of linux and mac compatibillity anyways? |
08:38.42 | nevcairiel | only if you write your application with mono in mind. |
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08:44.44 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33965 10Aloft/Modules/Visibility.lua: Aloft: Visibility - reneged. Show Vermin is now called Show Critters, and enables the creature type database |
08:44.46 | TheKarn | java can be horrible |
08:48.11 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah |
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08:50.01 | renchap | PHP 5.2.1-pl3-gentoo (cgi-fcgi) (built: Apr 28 2007 10:12:16) |
08:50.01 | renchap | Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group |
08:50.04 | renchap | Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies with XCache v1.2.0, Copyright (c) 2005-2006, by mOoPHP 5.2.1-pl3-gentoo (cgi-fcgi) (built: Apr 28 2007 10:12:16) |
08:50.07 | renchap | Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group |
08:51.11 | renchap | oops sorry |
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08:51.11 | Fisker- | so it's a phpinfo() fight? |
08:51.14 | renchap | php --version ^^ |
08:51.54 | Fisker- | PHP 5.2.1 (cli) (built: Apr 26 2007 15:30:38) |
08:52.50 | Fisker- | If only i had gentoo :( |
08:55.46 | Megalon | http://www.gentoo.org/ |
08:55.47 | Megalon | :o |
08:55.53 | Megalon | come get some! |
08:59.50 | Fisker- | yeah but i can't install it on my server |
08:59.51 | Fisker- | QQ |
09:00.15 | renchap | change your provider ^^ |
09:00.26 | Fisker- | no wai |
09:00.34 | Fisker- | they're awesome |
09:00.52 | Fisker- | It's just that i dunno how to install it remotely in a limited debian system |
09:01.09 | renchap | can you netboot ? |
09:01.13 | renchap | on a minimal system |
09:02.16 | Fisker- | i think that's what it does yeah |
09:02.47 | ckknight | I believe I'm depressed |
09:03.35 | renchap | you can start here : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4 |
09:03.53 | ckknight | been there, done that |
09:04.01 | ckknight | gentoo was my first distro |
09:04.10 | renchap | but you cant install gentoo on the same partition than debian, so you should use a netboot or so |
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09:20.51 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33966 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (Bars.lua Core.lua Locales/enUS.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: added custom bar text option (%s for spell, %t for target, %a for applicaiton number > 1) |
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09:40.33 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33967 10Aloft/Modules/Visibility.lua: Aloft: Visibility - disabling showCritters no longer enables the creatureType database if showNeutralUnits is also disabled |
09:55.34 | Neebler | WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNCHECKED AGGRESION HERE DUDE. What the fuck is he talking about walter? FORGET IT DONNIE YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE |
09:57.06 | nevcairiel | wazzup? |
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09:58.12 | Neebler | we're talking about how they peed on his rug |
09:58.22 | Neebler | it really tied the room together |
10:00.34 | Ominous | vhaarr: ping |
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10:02.07 | xlvii | okay |
10:02.22 | xlvii | if you have paypal, please send me a private message |
10:02.54 | Neebler | it's a trap |
10:03.14 | xlvii | no it's not. |
10:03.26 | xlvii | ;p |
10:03.27 | Neebler | unless you're a millionaire whose lost your marbles and want to give free money away over the internets |
10:03.34 | xlvii | aha. |
10:03.35 | Neebler | I'm not biting |
10:03.35 | xlvii | not quite. |
10:03.48 | xlvii | to cut a long story short |
10:03.54 | xlvii | my friend put up a website, asking for donations |
10:03.59 | xlvii | someone donated. |
10:04.20 | xlvii | then retracted the money |
10:04.30 | xlvii | with that, paypal charges a feee. |
10:04.32 | xlvii | $15 usd |
10:04.46 | xlvii | and my friend has a negative amount of money in his account now |
10:04.49 | xlvii | and he cannot close it. |
10:04.56 | xlvii | so, what i'm asking if |
10:04.56 | xlvii | is |
10:05.07 | xlvii | if anyone has like $1USD in their paypal |
10:05.11 | xlvii | please send it to him. |
10:05.12 | xlvii | ;p |
10:05.19 | nevcairiel | good try. |
10:05.32 | Neebler | #pityparty - you'll find more sympothy there |
10:05.58 | xlvii | i'm 100% legit. |
10:05.59 | xlvii | oh well. |
10:07.06 | Neebler | s/o/a/ |
10:07.12 | Neebler | bzzzt wrong |
10:07.37 | Sais | s/path/poth/ |
10:07.42 | Sais | nbleh |
10:07.49 | Neebler | saes! |
10:07.55 | Sais | :> |
10:12.52 | ckknight | xlvii: that's lame |
10:14.14 | ckknight | btw, I accept donations to my paypal |
10:14.31 | ckknight | I know people have to like my mods... |
10:18.47 | _icetrain | svn: Berkeley DB error for filesystem /home/kyle/projects/grid/svn/db while checkpointing after Berkeley DB transaction: |
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10:18.51 | _icetrain | No space left on device |
10:18.53 | _icetrain | ops? :) |
10:18.56 | sbu | morning :) |
10:19.36 | _icetrain | while chekcing out the UTF8 external for grid |
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10:39.37 | Neebler | google p2p wins |
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10:40.51 | Punkie` | Do you mean g2p? |
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10:43.16 | ckknight | google p2p? |
10:43.31 | Fisker- | l2p_ |
10:43.33 | Fisker- | ? |
10:43.45 | Punkie` | there is no such thing as google p2p :P |
10:43.48 | Punkie` | just g2p |
10:44.03 | Punkie` | search google with the right search strings in order to find an mp3 |
10:44.09 | Punkie` | http://www.g2p.org/ |
10:44.14 | Neebler | http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=faezma923t |
10:44.53 | Punkie` | that isn't p2p :P |
10:45.17 | Neebler | the machines are alive! |
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10:46.20 | Fisker- | That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 1999 Punkie` |
10:46.47 | Punkie` | I know it is |
10:46.51 | Punkie` | tell Neebler :P |
10:47.12 | Neebler | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook |
10:47.41 | Neebler | well I R NOT COMPROOTUR E-LITERATE |
10:48.02 | Neebler | rather, it's a new trick to me |
10:52.19 | Neebler | know what's weird punkie? |
10:52.28 | Neebler | my name is brewster |
10:52.37 | Mikk | this sounds like a pyramid game scam to me =P |
10:52.47 | Mikk | whoups... @ the paypal stuff further up |
10:52.52 | Mikk | (had scrolled up & locked >.<) |
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10:55.14 | Neebler | I think it's funny that idiots fall for that crap. They're so blatantly obvious. They try and pretend to be what they believe to be an uneducated online using moron kid. So they type with improper grammar and don't use punctuation, then they use stypid faces like ";p" |
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11:05.24 | Megalon | s0, is ther' ne1 th4t will d0n4t3 t00 mY p4yPalZ acc00nt PLX!!111 |
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11:37.15 | Gamefaq | hiho |
11:37.54 | Gamefaq | could someone check this plz: |
11:37.54 | Gamefaq | Fehler: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/trunk/CastCommLib' |
11:37.59 | Gamefaq | Fehler: Berkeley DB error for filesystem /home/kyle/projects/grid/svn/db while checkpointing after Berkeley DB transaction: |
11:38.03 | Gamefaq | Fehler: No space left on device |
11:39.10 | CIA-31 | 03nevcairiel * r33968 10PitBull/Health/Health.lua: |
11:39.10 | CIA-31 | PitBull |
11:39.10 | CIA-31 | - color PvP Enemys by hostility as well when Hostility Coloring for NPCs is on, just makes more sense. |
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11:42.25 | TheKarn | ping antiarc |
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11:50.30 | xlvii | any twitters here? ;p |
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12:24.57 | xyu | Heyfu is recording a tell twice. |
12:25.02 | xyu | so if i get 10 tells it says i have 20 >< |
12:26.24 | renchap | pastamancer: ping |
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12:28.10 | snirks | what is a twitter_ |
12:28.27 | snirks | ls |
12:28.44 | Punkie` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter i guess |
12:28.51 | Punkie` | but it's also the sound a bird makes :P |
12:33.26 | Fin | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=681388403953763543 |
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12:34.44 | CIA-31 | 03fleetfoot * r33969 10LittleTrouble/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
12:34.44 | CIA-31 | LittleTrouble: |
12:34.44 | CIA-31 | - Rewrote most of the frame code |
12:34.44 | CIA-31 | - Added options to tweak color, size and whatnot |
12:34.44 | CIA-31 | - Might have gained an inch or two performance wise |
12:34.45 | CIA-31 | - Mmmm dewdrop |
12:37.05 | Ominous | when a mage casts Polymorph: Pig what is the debuff called? |
12:37.32 | vodrin | think they all give same debuff ? |
12:37.51 | Ominous | thanks :) |
12:38.24 | vodrin | hmm wowhead says otherwise though |
12:38.31 | vodrin | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28272 |
12:41.16 | CIA-31 | 03trh * r33970 10VanasKoS/ (GUICreate.lua VanasKoS.lua): VanasKoS: bugfix to show guild kos in portrait again |
12:43.39 | ag` | hey vhaarr |
12:43.52 | ag` | thanks for the optimizations on aguf |
12:44.41 | Fisker- | wowhead is right |
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13:00.05 | snirks | today i would like a new friend. anyone volunteer? |
13:01.29 | [Ammo] | www.realdoll.com |
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13:03.31 | nevcairiel | i need directory symlinking on windows :o |
13:03.43 | nevcairiel | i want to link my addons dir to the addons dir of the PTR client |
13:04.53 | Megalon | can you do that |
13:04.59 | Megalon | with junction under windows? |
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13:06.05 | Megalon | nevcairiel: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/Junction.mspx |
13:06.40 | Megalon | hope that's what you are looking for |
13:06.57 | nevcairiel | sounds good |
13:10.01 | nevcairiel | yay works |
13:10.02 | nevcairiel | thanks :) |
13:10.43 | Zicon | snirks: Depends. What kind of friend are you? Are you good for anything? |
13:10.53 | snirks | Zicon: i can listen |
13:10.56 | Fisker- | sup |
13:11.04 | snirks | hello Fisker- |
13:11.17 | snirks | it is a norwegian word |
13:11.27 | Fisker- | moar liek danish |
13:11.33 | snirks | maybe |
13:12.14 | snirks | 14638 hp unbuffed now |
13:12.20 | snirks | im getting there |
13:12.29 | Fisker- | wouldn't that fail with Blizzard_ addons? |
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13:14.33 | snirks | what Fisker- ? |
13:14.41 | Zicon | snirks: Boring. |
13:14.43 | Fisker- | symlinks |
13:17.03 | krka | any gnuplot gurus here? |
13:17.25 | Fisker- | i |
13:17.28 | Fisker- | i'm not lolwutting |
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13:32.19 | ckknight | lol wut? |
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13:33.11 | ag` | yo homies I'm ballin' |
13:35.15 | snirks | hi ag |
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13:38.00 | Chompers | whats balling? |
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13:41.04 | wobin | ... |
13:41.04 | wobin | riding the two backed horse? |
13:41.05 | wobin | playing hide the sausage? |
13:41.15 | wobin | Or am I somewhat off course with the definition? |
13:42.59 | Zicon | wobin, you filthy little person. |
13:43.15 | wobin | well yes. I blame sedatedChipmunk he's corrupted me |
13:45.38 | Fisker- | y helo thar wobin |
13:45.46 | Fisker- | how's mr. plow coming along? |
13:47.22 | wobin | bit by bit |
13:49.45 | xlvii | does anyone here have twitter? ;p |
13:50.36 | Fisker- | very funny wobin |
13:50.44 | Fisker- | but technically it's byte per byte |
13:51.00 | wobin | not at the rate I'm going =) |
13:51.20 | Fisker- | you can't write less than a byte :I |
13:51.41 | nevcairiel | if he wrote in binary .. |
13:51.48 | wobin | 1001011101000100011010! |
13:51.55 | wobin | s/!/!!1!/ |
13:52.18 | harldephin | oO |
13:52.25 | Fisker- | you just wrote a lot of bytes! |
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14:05.52 | Ominous | whats the debuff from power word shield called? |
14:06.03 | Fisker- | Weakened soul |
14:06.05 | Zicon | Weakened soul |
14:06.43 | Ominous | thanks |
14:07.13 | Ominous | is it a capital s at the start of soul? |
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14:07.32 | Aiiane | believe so yes |
14:08.17 | Aiiane | http://thottbot.com/s6788 |
14:08.21 | Aiiane | it is |
14:09.06 | Ominous | thanks :) |
14:12.36 | Ominous | is the sleep part of Wyvern Sting and the dot part called Wyvern Sting? |
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14:16.29 | Fisker- | looks like it |
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14:24.43 | dotted | someone agree with me that there is still some form of ghosting left on LCD screens today :< |
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14:27.43 | xlvii | can't say i've seen much of it :P |
14:28.01 | Fisker- | same here |
14:28.15 | Aiiane | Ominous: yes (although a bit late) |
14:29.33 | Ominous | Aiiane: thanks :) |
14:30.44 | dotted | im not saying you can see it, im just saying its there :p |
14:31.06 | Ominous | right now just need some testers on the test realm |
14:32.41 | Fisker- | us or eu? |
14:32.49 | Ominous | eu |
14:33.05 | xlvii | mm.. |
14:33.09 | Fisker- | i'll be there soon then |
14:33.10 | xlvii | can any dutch people translate this? |
14:33.12 | Fisker- | if you need me |
14:33.13 | xlvii | Zimbabwe verdrijft hulporganisaties |
14:33.21 | Fisker- | gotta take over halaa first though |
14:33.25 | Ominous | :) what class do u ahve |
14:33.29 | Fisker- | paladin |
14:33.43 | Ominous | Fisker: then yea i do need u |
14:33.50 | Ominous | i can only test rogue |
14:34.02 | Ominous | god my laptop is taking ages to commit |
14:34.17 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33971 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (11 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: Added other classes |
14:34.29 | Fisker- | i think it's |
14:34.42 | Fisker- | "Zimbabwe repels helporganisations" |
14:34.48 | Fisker- | something like that |
14:35.22 | xlvii | hmm.. |
14:35.23 | xlvii | not good. |
14:35.24 | xlvii | >_> |
14:36.00 | xlvii | if you can speak / read / translate dutch, please send me a private message. |
14:36.55 | Fisker- | so Ominous what do you need me to do? |
14:37.24 | Ominous | test that the pallidin timers work, expecially the party tuff |
14:37.26 | Ominous | stuff* |
14:37.31 | wobin | man this colemap thing is hard to get used to |
14:37.56 | wobin | s/ap/ak/ |
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14:38.38 | Fisker- | what do i need to download? |
14:38.43 | hugo | hi |
14:39.09 | Ominous | Fisker: hang on just adding a few missing locales |
14:39.23 | Vangual | Ominous: just noticed in the your svn changeset, there's loads of references to "shamen" as class all over the place, think you might need to massreplace to "shaman" and rename some files :) |
14:41.14 | Fisker- | just asking one of my friends xlvii |
14:44.17 | Ominous | heh... |
14:51.13 | Ominous | kill me now... was wondering why my metatable stopped working... i commented out the return part |
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14:58.33 | Ominous | anyone with babble-2.2 checkout out already here? |
15:00.33 | vhaarr | ? |
15:01.10 | Mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxg0zhLtbtZbxtcbbVb |
15:01.59 | Fisker- | why doesn't wowhead have a testserver section ?:O |
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15:20.45 | kaiden | bleh, in search of an easy way to detect mana in druid shapeshifted form :/ |
15:26.20 | KarlThePagan | druidbar |
15:26.26 | KarlThePagan | something like that |
15:26.57 | KarlThePagan | hopefully someone will correct me I'm sure there's a new/better solution by now |
15:28.24 | sedatedChipmunk | i think either icehud or archud had one that they spun off into a standalone |
15:29.04 | KarlThePagan | wb agUF integrated one |
15:29.08 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
15:29.11 | KarlThePagan | wtb |
15:30.20 | kaiden | wtb PitBull Integrated one ;) |
15:34.40 | kaiden | night night ;p |
15:34.57 | kaiden | chipmunks will eat anything i tell ya |
15:35.06 | kaiden | including my fingers at times :( |
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15:47.18 | Aiiane | ckknight: you around? |
15:49.43 | CIA-31 | 03gagorian * r33972 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
15:49.43 | CIA-31 | DrDamage: |
15:49.43 | CIA-31 | -Now calculates the crit chance of the Lightning Capacitor proc as well |
15:52.20 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33973 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (13 files in 3 dirs): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: renamed shamen shaman, added other rogue poisons |
15:58.14 | Ominous | right anyone want to help with testing on test realm eu? |
16:00.32 | vhaarr | Test what? |
16:01.40 | Ominous | my ClassTimer addon |
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16:03.22 | Ominous | hang on why did i say it needed to be eu |
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16:15.48 | CIA-31 | 03fenlis * r33974 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/Locales/koKR.lua: |
16:15.48 | CIA-31 | FuBar_ClassTimerFu |
16:15.48 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
16:16.50 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33975 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_ClassTimerFu.toc): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: removed revision in version as it was erroring |
16:19.53 | Ominous | dammit lua.org is down will tonumber(string.match("$Rev: 33975 $", "%d+")) return the revision as a number |
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16:23.40 | Ominous | at 33924 |
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16:24.55 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33976 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: re-added revision stuff |
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16:39.15 | Tornhoof | ~seen elkano |
16:39.37 | purl | elkano <n=elkano@srbk-590f9b45.pool.einsundeins.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 10m 50s ago, saying: 'fixed: <snurre> i soo hate french'. |
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16:39.55 | Tornhoof | speaking of the devil |
16:40.36 | Tornhoof | elkano any way to reduce memory usage of itemdb again, after the lookup ui is closed? |
16:42.31 | CIA-31 | 03whitetooth * r33977 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
16:42.32 | CIA-31 | StatLogicLib: |
16:42.32 | CIA-31 | - Improved GetSum() algorithm, added DeepScanWordSeparators for a 2 pass separation, so that it now supports stats like the ZG lock enchant "+18 Healing and Spell Damage/+10 Stamina" |
16:42.32 | CIA-31 | - Other bug fixes |
16:43.04 | Elkano | well, no... wouldn't allow it to stay persistant over open/close but static memory usage shouldn't be the problem, or is it? |
16:43.48 | Tornhoof | i like small values ;) |
16:44.11 | Tornhoof | probably i should just change the coloring values in performancefu :D |
16:44.42 | Andune | yeah, mines always red. my base footprint size is ~75 |
16:44.49 | Tornhoof | mine is 20mb |
16:45.50 | CIA-31 | 03whitetooth * r33978 10RatingBuster/ (7 files): |
16:45.50 | CIA-31 | RatingBuster: 1.1.7 |
16:45.50 | CIA-31 | - Minor bug fixes |
16:45.50 | CIA-31 | - Updated Taiwan localizations by mcc |
16:45.50 | CIA-31 | - Updated Korean localizations by fenlis |
16:45.50 | CIA-31 | - Updated French localizations by renchap |
16:45.55 | vhaarr | 20mb is nothing :) |
16:45.56 | Andune | I like lots of info. So I apparantly run mods that use up a good bit of memory keeping all that info. I got 2G, wow only uses half that, so I guess it doesn't bother me :) |
16:46.20 | vhaarr | I use 24-40, depending |
16:46.29 | Tornhoof | i know vhaar, but i like having a footprint of 20 ;) |
16:46.43 | Tornhoof | with itemdb loaded it's 28 currently |
16:47.29 | Tornhoof | elkano just add some config setting checkbox for destroying the persistant data after open/close :) |
16:47.34 | Fisker- | mine's at 100MiB |
16:47.39 | Fisker- | am i doing it right? |
16:48.06 | Tornhoof | yeh |
16:48.38 | Andune | would be neat if performancefu was able to record the "base" over a number of logins, and scaled the colors up from there in percentages |
16:49.03 | vhaarr | Andune: it will probably be doing something like that in 2.1 |
16:49.10 | vhaarr | we'll see |
16:49.17 | Andune | or even just an edit box I guess to plugin the base. :) I keep thinking of going to tweak the LUA to my base, but then it'd get overwritten everytime I update. |
16:49.31 | Andune | and I'm just used to it being red all the time by now anyway :) |
16:49.34 | Fisker- | btw |
16:49.37 | Fisker- | aren't you Antiarc? |
16:49.53 | Andune | vhaarr: that'd be cool |
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16:51.45 | Fisker- | should've kicked me in the bottomless pit while you could |
16:52.06 | vhaarr | dinnertime now, maybe later |
16:53.14 | Fisker- | gonna watch the new mr. bean movie |
16:53.14 | Elkano | Tornhoof, maybe I'll make it that reset kills the data ^^ so you can reset before close |
16:55.55 | Tornhoof | yah why not |
16:59.29 | CIA-31 | 03whitetooth * r33979 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster.lua: |
16:59.30 | CIA-31 | RatingBuster: |
16:59.30 | CIA-31 | - Locale fix |
17:01.26 | Morghus | Any news on KC_Items 2 and how it's progressing ( and if it's ready to hit beta-release soon ;D ) |
17:01.46 | Hjalte | Morghus, just get it from svn. It's working. |
17:02.50 | Morghus | Then I need the program to get stuff from the svn and access. I suppose there's a tutorial or something on wowace.com? |
17:03.08 | Andune | ok, so I've got an herb. Say, blindweed. Mendelleev tells me in the tooltip it's used by herbalism, great. What is the best mod for figuring out which recipes I can make with it? |
17:04.03 | Arrowmaster | Andune: you an alch? |
17:04.04 | Morghus | I have a mod that lists that. Hold on, I'll check which it is |
17:04.12 | Andune | arrowmaster: yes |
17:04.19 | Arrowmaster | open your alch window once |
17:04.19 | Vangual | mandeleev shows the recipes for me, but i guess you need to be alch |
17:04.26 | Arrowmaster | then check the tooltip again |
17:04.34 | Andune | yeah I couldda swore it used to. but not anymore. |
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17:04.42 | Arrowmaster | it does for me |
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17:04.55 | Funkeh` | hey |
17:05.18 | Andune | well. ClosetGnome used to show me gear set on the tooltip too, but it doesn't now. I think it started when this 'Stat Summary' info started appearing on the tooltip |
17:05.51 | Andune | the danger in auto-updating general-purpose mods off of WAU is occasionaly I get new features and have no idea what mod is doing it :P |
17:06.11 | Morghus | Andune: Yeah ;D |
17:06.21 | Vangual | ratingbuster, can turn the summary stuff off |
17:07.27 | Andune | ahh ty, let me try that and see if my other tooltip info comes back. Not that I want to turn it off, it's cool info, but I miss my other info too... :P |
17:07.51 | harldephin | my Mendeleev seems to be unable to find a string in Babble-Boss or something like that.. |
17:08.10 | Vangual | i personally turned it off quickly, it's redundant info imho |
17:08.14 | vhaarr | Andune: Get ClosetGnome_Tooltip. |
17:08.51 | Killmore | wow, thats nice to see KTM is in my top3 of memory usage and im not in a group, he's supose to calculate nothing.. I'm just standing in shattrah doingn nothing.. |
17:08.54 | Andune | lol, ok well that explains the missing ClosetGnome. and yeah, turning off ratingBuster stats didn't fix. |
17:09.08 | Andune | killmore: yeah KTM is a pig. |
17:09.27 | Thrae | Killmore: KB/s or just total memory usage? If the latter, then yeah, I could easily see KTM doing that |
17:09.33 | Vangual | expect much drama on ktm once 2.1 with it's top usage functions goes live :P |
17:09.44 | Andune | ok so now I just need to figure out how to get mendelleev to show the 'used in recipe xxx' again.. |
17:10.00 | harldephin | ClearFonts calls a method 'ApplySystemFonts' which doesn't seem to exist |
17:10.12 | Killmore | 5 in memory usage and second in cpu usage |
17:10.35 | trh | Vangual: hehe.. i made a comment on the mod site at curse-gaming telling him it takes alot of cpu time even when only idling... he answered that the even-response time is great and cpu time doesnt matter because you're idling anyway..... |
17:10.47 | trh | even = event |
17:11.52 | Morghus | There's a saying: "Many small creeks quickly gather up in a massive flood" |
17:11.58 | Morghus | :p |
17:12.18 | Vangual | i like his code and the addon is useful, but kenco's april fools post in the curse thread shows his stance on the usage :) |
17:12.31 | vhaarr | Vangual: Link? |
17:12.48 | Vangual | hmm, prolly a few hundred pages deep, lemme go dig |
17:13.44 | Killmore | haha yeah I remember the april fool "Now KTM use Ace2 and blablablabla to save up to.. in memory usage" |
17:13.50 | Vangual | vhaarr: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/klhthreatmeter/?cpage=9 |
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17:14.35 | Vangual | (bottommost post of kenco) |
17:15.06 | kenlyric | an april fools that your code will be made less stupid. |
17:15.18 | kenlyric | that's... insane. |
17:15.24 | Andune | could it be manufac that is preveting mendeleev from working? I can't actually open the alch window, tho I assume manufac does it in the background when I reset.. |
17:17.45 | wobin | god forbid stuff gets better =P |
17:17.48 | harldephin | what's the name of that add-on capable of showing me the amount of memory another add-on is using ? |
17:18.15 | Vangual | Andune: hmm, going into mandeleev's options with niagara there's an option to turn some of the sets off, do you have those all turned on? |
17:18.26 | Killmore | im using performanceFu (Fubar) in 2.1 PTR |
17:18.38 | Andune | vangual: yeah it's all turned on. |
17:18.50 | harldephin | and what if i don't want to use FuBar ? |
17:19.08 | Andune | harldephin: blasphemy! |
17:19.21 | Killmore | hahaha |
17:19.33 | CIA-31 | 03phyber * r33980 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
17:19.33 | CIA-31 | XPBarNone: |
17:19.34 | CIA-31 | - Auto Watch Reputation now defaults to On. |
17:19.34 | harldephin | that's not what i meant |
17:21.04 | Vangual | then you could use warmup with less accuracy and other stuff to keep in mind when judging numbers |
17:21.10 | Morghus | One thing I'm wondering, if kc items 2 works and all, why isn't it taken from the svn to the files.wowace section? |
17:23.54 | JoshBorke | Morghus: it's not in trunk |
17:24.30 | phyber | Morghus: perhaps because the author doesn't consider it ready for trunk yet. |
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17:30.31 | Ominous | is there a priest or pally on test realm who can test fubar_classtimerfu with a pary and raid member please |
17:32.28 | Aiiane | JoshBorke or Morghus - is KCItems2 the Ace2 tag in branch? |
17:32.54 | JoshBorke | i don't ermember which one it is |
17:33.07 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33981 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: bug fixes *2 |
17:33.26 | Aiiane | im going to assume so then, given that it's the one modified by kael |
17:33.55 | JoshBorke | if i've modified it then yes itis |
17:35.51 | Ominous | files.wowace.com has stopped syncing with dev.wowace.com |
17:37.00 | phyber | it only sync every 20 mins or so. |
17:37.00 | Hjalte | phyber, it hasnt synced in some hours now. |
17:37.03 | vhaarr | indeed the script has stopped |
17:37.06 | phyber | fair enough then ;) |
17:37.52 | TecnoBrat | ~seen toadkiller |
17:38.04 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-35-104-19.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 19h 39m 40s ago, saying: 'Kinkx: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50956831&sid=1'. |
17:42.00 | Hjalte | Ominous, why does ClassTimerFu need wow 2.1? |
17:42.50 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33982 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: dammit only updated the buff part |
17:54.54 | CIA-31 | 03zuno * r33983 10uab_PitBullFrames/uab_PitBullFrames.lua: |
17:54.54 | CIA-31 | uab_PitBullFrames: |
17:54.54 | CIA-31 | - Commented out a section of code that caused repeated re-registrations of PitBull unit frames. |
17:56.24 | CIA-31 | 03zuno * r33984 10UnitActionBars/UnitGroup.lua: |
17:56.24 | CIA-31 | UnitActionBars: |
17:56.24 | CIA-31 | - Added some checks if the layout that a given group of action buttons use is not available (no longer loaded). Now uses default layout (bar) in this case. |
17:58.12 | CIA-31 | 03zuno * r33985 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc: |
17:58.12 | CIA-31 | UnitActionBars: |
17:58.13 | CIA-31 | - Updated revision |
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18:35.26 | Ominous | please can a caster test something for me on the test realm? |
18:35.36 | Fisker- | Is i a caster? |
18:36.30 | Megalon | if battleshout is considered casting |
18:36.31 | Megalon | :7 |
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18:36.59 | Ominous | yay can you download FuBar_ClassTimerFu and tell me if a) party and raid timers work, and b) if you target someone in your party and buff them if the timer appears twice |
18:39.24 | Fisker- | alright |
18:39.35 | Ominous | thanks |
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18:42.32 | Fin | Ominous: I was wondering what you were testing |
18:42.41 | Fin | -that crap at the beginning |
18:42.48 | Adirelle | hi there |
18:43.11 | Ominous | Fin: my new timers which use the 2.1 buff/debuff api |
18:43.12 | Adirelle | ~seen nymbia |
18:43.41 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-159-27.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 43m 38s ago, saying: 'the idea is for kenergy to take over the ticker if it's present'. |
18:43.41 | Fin | Ominous: if you want a tester on our server, I'm willing |
18:43.41 | Ominous | Fin: what class are u |
18:43.41 | Fin | Priest |
18:43.42 | Fisker- | ïn a raid it shows up double when i buff my self |
18:43.55 | Fisker- | and when i remove the buff one timer stays |
18:44.12 | Ominous | Fin: well some extra testing wouldnt go amiss but i dont have a clue if the party stuff works atm |
18:44.25 | Ominous | Fin: though it should |
18:44.31 | Fin | Ominous: ah, righto :) sorry, missed the bit about it being 2.1 :) |
18:44.48 | Fisker- | only once in party |
18:45.02 | Fin | Ominous: well if you don't have a local guinea pig, let me know :) |
18:45.14 | Ominous | Fisker: what? |
18:46.04 | Fisker- | The bars show up twice when i buff myself in a raid |
18:46.05 | Fin | er, "NEEDS WOW 2.1!!" - is it going to break anything in 2.0? |
18:46.07 | Fisker- | only once in party |
18:47.01 | Fisker- | oh wait |
18:47.07 | Fisker- | lol wut |
18:47.14 | Fisker- | it shows double when i target myself |
18:47.15 | Ominous | Fin: it wont work in 2.0 but it wont break anything |
18:47.21 | Ominous | Fisker ok thanks |
18:48.23 | Fin | k |
18:48.24 | Fisker- | paladin tier 5 makes the sun shine at night |
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18:48.48 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33986 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: hopefully fixed double showing |
18:48.48 | Ominous | Fisker: ok try that |
18:48.59 | Ominous | Fin: it uses the new name, rank, icon, count, duration, timeLeft = UnitBuff(UnitID, i) |
18:49.45 | Fin | cool! |
18:49.50 | Fisker- | seems to work fine |
18:49.55 | Fisker- | but |
18:50.14 | Fisker- | light's grace doesn't update(although i don't get why you have a timer for it) |
18:50.26 | Ominous | cos i copied a list a friend gave me |
18:51.00 | Fisker- | and it's only when you target yourself it doesn't update |
18:51.11 | Fisker- | retarget yourself, or don't have yourself targetted and it'll update fine |
18:51.41 | Ominous | Fisker: ok, odd what does it do |
18:51.48 | Ominous | and what is the updaing it needs? |
18:52.00 | Fisker- | decreases your casttime on your next holy light by 0.5 seconds |
18:52.06 | Fisker- | self buff only |
18:52.14 | Ominous | ah i see why |
18:52.43 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33987 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: maybe fix |
18:52.50 | Ominous | see if that works and retest with the raid |
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18:54.12 | Ominous | this new api is so great cos now i can track deadly poison exactly and also the other types |
18:54.36 | Fisker- | didn't seem to work |
18:55.03 | Ominous | as in it didnt change anything or it broke it |
18:55.21 | Fisker- | didn't change anything |
18:55.46 | Ominous | k |
18:56.22 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33988 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: another try |
18:56.26 | Fisker- | cute you say? |
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18:56.36 | Ominous | i dont think that will work |
18:56.38 | Ominous | but try |
18:57.12 | Vangual | is there range indication in pitbull already that i'm overlooking? |
18:57.14 | Fisker- | nope |
18:57.25 | Fisker- | yeah Vangual |
18:58.12 | Vangual | ah seperate addon, blind me |
18:58.41 | harldephin | Fisker-: yeah, i said so. |
18:59.00 | Fisker- | "i said so" you said? |
18:59.01 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33989 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: another try |
18:59.38 | Ominous | i hate not a) having a caster and b) not having test realm |
19:00.33 | Ominous | fisker: try that |
19:00.38 | Fisker- | sec |
19:01.08 | Fisker- | works perfectly |
19:01.16 | Ominous | yay |
19:01.30 | Ominous | there is one downside with the enw system though |
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19:01.48 | Ominous | in order to track CC effects liek sap and sheep when you arnt targeting it you have to focus it |
19:02.11 | TecnoBrat | imo, a mage should focus their sheep target anyways :P |
19:02.20 | TecnoBrat | thats just good practice |
19:02.29 | Fisker- | somewhat overkill in instances imo |
19:02.37 | Fisker- | i almost never use focus targets myself |
19:02.37 | TecnoBrat | get a nice macro |
19:02.40 | Fisker- | but i'm just a healer |
19:03.09 | TecnoBrat | there are some really nice macros for setting focus target, sheeping, resetting target, etc |
19:03.23 | Fisker- | it would make sense though that blizzard would atleast allow you to keep track of your own buffs and debuffs |
19:03.27 | Thrae | PerfectTargets shows if a mob its tracking is CC'd, but of course someone needs to be targeting the mob for it to get status. There's no way to get status on a mob that's not targeted, set as a focus unit, or mouse'd over. |
19:03.50 | TecnoBrat | I use focus targets as a healer for every escort quest, etc |
19:03.55 | Fisker- | smart idea Thrae |
19:03.56 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33990 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: removed a debug table i made when running a metatable |
19:04.17 | Thrae | http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow <-- has focus support, and you can also use focus as MA (of course, 2.1 will change this) |
19:04.45 | Fisker- | aren't the maintanks and mainassists unit ids as well? |
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19:06.20 | Thrae | Fisker-: In 2.1, yes |
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19:08.25 | CIA-31 | 03adirelle 07Adirelle * r33991 10PT3Bar/: Created folder remotely |
19:09.07 | CIA-31 | 03adirelle 07Adirelle * r33992 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar/ (. Config.lua PT3Bar.lua): PT3Bar: my own enhanced version. |
19:09.29 | Fisker- | intriguing |
19:09.32 | Fisker- | or however you spell it |
19:09.33 | Fisker- | nymbia ! |
19:09.38 | Fisker- | it is can be raeps tiem now_ |
19:09.39 | Fisker- | ? |
19:10.05 | nymbia | Adirelle: you can stick those changes in trunk if you'd like |
19:10.23 | Adirelle | I added a bunch more, dunno if they would please anyone |
19:10.46 | Fisker- | it might please me |
19:10.53 | nymbia | well as long as no features go away or anything like that |
19:10.58 | Matrix110 | hmm PT3Bar i gotta test it again maybe its working better now as when i tested it:) |
19:11.15 | nymbia | then go for it ;) |
19:11.30 | Fisker- | lolwut |
19:11.42 | Fisker- | Wowhead guys are advertising for joana's wow guide |
19:11.45 | Matrix110 | Autobar is kinda getting annoying in the last time |
19:11.47 | Adirelle | I think the patch I post on the forum could be easily merged, I'll may do it |
19:12.04 | nymbia | okie, up to you of course :D |
19:12.34 | Adirelle | I added some "strange" things in the branch, like pet food button |
19:12.55 | Adirelle | or "autosnapping" (I feel this is not the correct word) bar |
19:13.17 | nymbia | ah |
19:13.45 | Adirelle | Set content are also sorted by value (though this is done once at init) |
19:14.07 | nymbia | oh right that reminds me i had a commit i meant to do |
19:14.16 | Pneu | eqdkp makes my head hurt :< |
19:14.21 | Fisker- | why? |
19:14.22 | Adirelle | (I then just iterate it from top to bottom or bottom to top, depending on "showbest") |
19:15.33 | Pneu | (member_earned-member_spent+member_adjustment) AS member_current, all 3 fields are FLOAT(11,2) but the result is a float with 12 decimal places :s |
19:15.51 | Matrix110 | you use a modified version then |
19:15.55 | Matrix110 | we had a similiar problem |
19:16.15 | Fisker- | i also believe the eqdkp guys posted a solution for it |
19:16.27 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33993 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua: |
19:16.27 | CIA-31 | PT3Bar: |
19:16.27 | CIA-31 | - Simplify some stuff in the attributes, hopefully this fixes buttons occasionally not hiding properly. |
19:17.04 | kergoth | ooh thatd be good |
19:17.15 | Pneu | i assume its mysql playing funny actually, as i dont even know where its getting the extra decimal places from |
19:17.23 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar-test/plugins/bossloot/bossloot.php?s=&bossid=moroes <-this is awesome though |
19:18.32 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar-test/listraids.php?s= <-this however is not that awesome |
19:18.47 | Matrix110 | i would make the pic smaller tbh |
19:18.52 | Fisker- | ^^ |
19:19.07 | Fisker- | My first priority is the other problem though :P |
19:19.19 | Matrix110 | and i would name the bosses correct! |
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19:21.16 | Fisker- | duh |
19:21.41 | Fisker- | don't worry our raidleaders already got severe butthurt incoming |
19:22.38 | Adirelle | nymbia: do think self-cast on right-click should be a "toggleable" behavior ? |
19:22.46 | Matrix110 | i remember when i needed to fix like all MC items possible to drop when we got ItemStats... |
19:23.06 | kergoth | ckknight: mind if i bump the maxes on the group spacing (vert & horiz)? because its interpreting those numbers as in the coordinate system of the frames in question, if you have frames scaled way down, those maxes aren't nearly high enough for some frame arrangements |
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19:24.51 | Fisker- | also reminds me of how you _shouldn't_ set itemstats to update items by itself |
19:25.05 | Fisker- | The site was loading for like 10 minutes before it was done :P |
19:25.17 | Matrix110 | lol |
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19:25.58 | Matrix110 | we use eqdkp multi dkp atm its quite nice made |
19:26.15 | Fisker- | what's that? |
19:29.17 | CIA-31 | 03adirelle * r33994 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua: |
19:29.17 | CIA-31 | PT3Bar: |
19:29.17 | CIA-31 | - self cast on right-click, |
19:29.17 | CIA-31 | - alfo use standard UI self cast settings, |
19:29.17 | CIA-31 | - hide popup on click, |
19:29.18 | CIA-31 | - only one popup is visible at a time, |
19:29.20 | CIA-31 | - hiding delay reduced to 0.5s. |
19:29.31 | Adirelle | damn typo :/ |
19:29.43 | Matrix110 | hmm statLogic lib seems borked gotta investigate! |
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19:33.06 | kenlyric | http://rome.ro/2007/01/ipod-with-nes-controller-running-doom.html |
19:33.32 | Fisker- | not romero |
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19:34.05 | Pneu | hmm, it seems FLOAT(11,2) in mysql just masks the output number, not actually forces the data stored to be rounded |
19:34.20 | Thrae | kenlyric: Yeah, I think that might need parts of Ipod Linux |
19:35.12 | kenlyric | that's the sexiest mod I've ever seen. |
19:35.38 | Pneu | PT3 like autobar? |
19:35.53 | Pneu | *PT3bar even |
19:36.05 | Fisker- | yeah kenlyric |
19:36.14 | Fisker- | Noticed how he destroyed the ipod? |
19:36.17 | Fisker- | I loved every part of it |
19:36.44 | Fisker- | Removing each shred of apple failure and replacing it with doom, linux, nes and win |
19:37.07 | Fisker- | :P |
19:37.23 | chutwig | Pneu: surely you don't mean to suggest that mysql is doing something stupid |
19:38.14 | Fisker- | MySQL is just some homebrew shit made my 2 12-year olds chutwig |
19:38.20 | Fisker- | so of course it's buggy! |
19:38.21 | Fisker- | :D |
19:38.50 | Pneu | chutwig: it would appear so! |
19:39.10 | Pneu | SELECT member_earned,(member_earned+0) AS member_current FROM eqdkp_members |
19:39.19 | Pneu | you'd ASSUME the 2 column outputs would be the same |
19:39.24 | Pneu | member_earned member_current |
19:39.24 | Pneu | 493.96 493.95999145508 |
19:40.26 | Pneu | so member_earned is actually a fat decimal, not 2 DP as the query suggests |
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19:42.50 | ckknight | kergoth: perhaps it should divide by scale instead? |
19:43.00 | ckknight | dunno |
19:43.25 | Megalon | Pneu: i think internal it's stored with max precision |
19:43.36 | Megalon | to minimize round off failures |
19:44.46 | Kinkx | Is it possible to target a person with /target and provide some kind of suffix to make it only target the exact name you want? like TargetByName("someguy",1), but that doesn't work anymore :( |
19:45.09 | Ominous | nope |
19:45.35 | Kinkx | boo! |
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19:48.40 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33995 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
19:48.40 | CIA-31 | PitBull_Aura: |
19:48.40 | CIA-31 | - Set the properties of each debuff frame only once; this should speed things up a bit. |
19:49.06 | nymbia | s/debuff/aura/ |
19:49.28 | Ominous | ~whaleslap nymbia |
19:49.48 | purl | ACTION beats nymbia upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
19:50.32 | Ominous | purl, help me |
19:53.04 | Pneu | i appear to have bodged a fix, changing the column data type to DECIMAL(11,2) rather than FLOAT |
19:57.18 | kergoth | ckknight: i dunno, the downside to that would be you wouldnt be able to position them as accurately, since you'd only be able to position them by one unscaled pixel rather than one scaled pixel. *shrug* |
19:59.40 | Gagorian | nymbia: Thanks for the changes btw.. Did you find anything else that could be optimized? |
20:00.05 | Pneu | putting an escort in the middle of mana tombs was the dumbest idea ever |
20:02.42 | harldephin | i've got a LUA question: how to include a double quote in a string ? |
20:03.37 | ckknight | asdf = 'hey "friend"' |
20:03.37 | nymbia | Gagorian: nothing that i had a good idea on how to implement, i'd like to try to get the memory usage on :RawNumbers and :DoTooltip down a bit though. |
20:03.44 | ckknight | asdf = "hey \"friend\"" |
20:03.52 | ckknight | asdf = [[hey "friend"] |
20:04.00 | ckknight | ] |
20:09.15 | Ominous | huh ckknight? |
20:09.15 | Ominous | ohh i see t question |
20:09.24 | harldephin | thanks |
20:09.46 | chutwig | oh man i found my system shock 2 cd and my sam and max talkie cd |
20:09.46 | chutwig | best discovery ever |
20:10.48 | Gagorian | nymbia: Same |
20:11.16 | Gagorian | I tried to reduce it from 2.4kB per update |
20:11.30 | Gagorian | (full AB update) |
20:11.57 | Gagorian | But, didn't really get it down from that |
20:12.11 | Fin | chutwig: System Shock 2! |
20:12.23 | chutwig | Fin: l-l-l-look at you, h-h-acker |
20:12.23 | Fin | fuck me I'd forgotten about that game, that was one of my most favouritest games EVER! |
20:12.34 | Fin | jesus, when did that come out?! |
20:12.45 | chutwig | loooooong time ago |
20:12.57 | Fin | and did you hear, they're making a sequel? |
20:12.57 | nymbia | hrm.. on the bright side my tweaks to pitbull auras seem to have boosted its performance by 40% or so |
20:13.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Something like 2000? |
20:13.17 | chutwig | 1999 |
20:13.17 | chutwig | and bioshock is like the spiritual successor to it |
20:13.27 | Fin | earlier than that I think |
20:13.37 | chutwig | done by a lot of the same people |
20:13.48 | Gagorian | nymbia: Memory usage is no issue i constant updates on buffs/debuffs isn't on |
20:13.48 | chutwig | nah, i just looked it up |
20:13.59 | Fin | 1997 or before |
20:14.11 | Fin | oh, really? |
20:14.25 | chutwig | system shock was 1994, ss2 was 1999 |
20:14.39 | Fin | oh yeah |
20:14.39 | Gagorian | nymbia: But that's what most people like.. |
20:14.53 | Fin | I'm thinking of system shock then |
20:15.08 | Gagorian | s/i constant/if constant |
20:15.24 | nymbia | Gagorian: yeah |
20:15.24 | Fin | anyway: sequel |
20:15.40 | chutwig | i have the CD but i'm on my mac and i don't have a boot camp partition |
20:18.59 | Ominous | boot camp? |
20:18.59 | Gagorian | nymbia: I haven't seen any point in cacheing either, since even now it only udpates when needed.. so that cache would still need to be updated |
20:18.59 | chutwig | for booting windows |
20:18.59 | Gagorian | It would only be useful if you check the same tooltips over and over without any change to buff/debuff/items etc |
20:18.59 | Fin | could someone please tell me: how does one refer to "++"? (in the context of adding 1 to a variable's value) |
20:18.59 | JoshBorke | can't do it in lua |
20:19.00 | Gagorian | And it's a lot of data so.. I don't see a point in it |
20:19.00 | Fin | JoshBorke: I know, I mean, in other languages, where you can do it |
20:19.00 | Fin | JoshBorke: thanks though |
20:19.00 | JoshBorke | incrementer |
20:19.00 | JoshBorke | or perhaps increment |
20:19.00 | NightHawkTheSane | increment/decriment usually |
20:19.04 | ckknight | i = i + 1 |
20:19.04 | Fin | I was just trying to remember what it was called, and tried searching... but searching for "++" isn't easy |
20:19.04 | Gagorian | nymbia: All in all it's fairly small. I deleted buffscanning, data for other classes and itemsets and it was 160 kB compared to TheoryCraft2 about 1 meg |
20:19.06 | Fin | I mean, like, ?: is the ternary operator |
20:19.06 | Fin | ++ has a name as well, doesn't it? |
20:19.06 | JoshBorke | don't think it actually has a name |
20:19.06 | nymbia | oh yeah i'm sure there's never been any doubt that it's lighter than theorycraft by a lot ;) |
20:19.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: |
20:19.07 | chutwig | increment operator? |
20:19.07 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.google.com/search?q=increment%20operator |
20:19.07 | Fin | NightHawkTheSane: thank you :) |
20:19.07 | NightHawkTheSane | post-increment, or pre-increment operators is the specific name, unary would be the generic name i guess. |
20:19.07 | Fin | post-increment! that's the one I was thinking of |
20:19.08 | Fin | (specifically) |
20:19.08 | Fin | cheers! |
20:19.08 | Fin | I love that feeling when you find out the answer to something that's been bugging you and you can aaaalmost remember |
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20:19.09 | Gagorian | nymbia: Well, if you get any ideas I'm open for suggestions as long as it remains relatively simple. Easily maintained correct calculations are still as much an important factor as performance :> |
20:19.09 | nymbia | Gagorian: yeah, i'll see if i can come up with anything |
20:19.09 | Fin | I don't care about performance anymore |
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20:19.10 | Fin | my new graphics card has 768MB of memory |
20:19.10 | Fin | that's almost as much as my old computer had for main memory |
20:19.10 | Fin | it's just nuts |
20:19.10 | Fin | I say, if I have to spend money on all that memory, might as well use it |
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20:19.52 | Gagorian | Still perplexed over the Dewdrop slider issues.. Tried modifying a bit but didn't get it working any better. |
20:20.22 | Fin | granted reality will probably slap me in the face soon, but I new hardware requires a carefree and happy-go-lucky attitude! |
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20:21.19 | Fin | what a weird phrase |
20:21.21 | Fin | happy-go-lucky |
20:21.41 | Fin | is that happy --- go ---> lucky? |
20:21.42 | Vangual | clearly you need to run vista with all bells on now, so you can fill all that memory with ultrahighres textures of your desktop elements ;) |
20:21.55 | chutwig | ugh vista |
20:22.05 | chutwig | setting new lows in system responsiveness |
20:22.38 | Fin | it's just like, a new skin, right? |
20:22.45 | Fin | and some extra drm? |
20:23.07 | Fin | actually if it's not, I don't need to know |
20:23.13 | Vangual | hehe |
20:23.37 | chutwig | i will continue to wallow in my huggy mac |
20:23.41 | Vangual | wasn't gonna advertise it, just can't think of much else to fill so much graphic ram with |
20:23.43 | Fin | and a proper local freebsd server! |
20:23.50 | jaete | is nobody else getting a wow error when entering eots or av with (only the basic) pitbull enabled? |
20:23.59 | jaete | getting on my nerves :p |
20:24.03 | Fin | Vangual: badly written addons~! |
20:24.06 | jaete | and yeah i updated 15 mins ago |
20:24.21 | Vangual | oh yea |
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20:30.38 | Gagorian | Nice. Found the dewdrop 'bug' |
20:30.42 | Gagorian | and fixed |
20:31.54 | nevcairiel | so upload the fix |
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20:36.06 | Gagorian | How much accuracy do you think is needed? |
20:37.58 | Gagorian | Technically infinite would be nice I guess, but if it's generally used in scaling stuff and such.. Maybe 1/billion should be enough? :> |
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20:39.45 | JoshBorke | definable by the mod :-P |
20:40.41 | Gagorian | Well, it's defined when dewdrop creates the sliderframe |
20:41.03 | Gagorian | so there would have to be some way to get it over from aceoptions table |
20:41.18 | Gagorian | I'll let someone else do that, I'll just increase it for now |
20:41.53 | Chompers | i just updated PitBull and its created a dimentional vortex to the 7th dimention, how do i fix this please? |
20:42.03 | JoshBorke | Chompers: revert |
20:42.06 | Chompers | the demons are interupting my wow time |
20:42.56 | Vangual | banish :) |
20:42.57 | break19 | Chompers: is that supposed to be funny? wasnt really |
20:43.28 | Chompers | eh? |
20:43.43 | CIA-31 | 03gagorian * r33996 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
20:43.43 | CIA-31 | DewdropLib: |
20:43.43 | CIA-31 | -Allow Dewdrop slider step accuracy to be up to one billionth of the slider range (allows for more accurate steps) |
20:43.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Chompers: capture the vortex and put it inside a police box. Go on zany adventures with a young and attractive female. |
20:44.21 | Chompers | PitBull seems to have some craaaazy bugs in it, i just hope one day it starts opening up portals to strange places |
20:44.55 | break19 | considering the fact i've been using pitbull since it hit the svn, and its always had a few issues here and there that ck and the others hadnt spotted yet.. I was making it known that something he did recently, and I would hazard a guess to say it was the splitting it up part. that made it start showing a white box instead of a yellow dot for my combo points |
20:46.01 | vhaarr | Gagorian: Err, don't fuck up translations please. |
20:46.05 | vhaarr | Gagorian: Revert Dewdrop. |
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20:46.28 | Gagorian | yeah, I noticed it |
20:46.30 | ckknight | break19: no idea how that could've happened, since the internal structure didn't change... |
20:46.58 | break19 | ckknight: i know.. but somehow.. heh |
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20:47.23 | break19 | and I would hazard a guess to say that if I were to put it back into the main addon's folder it'd work fine.. in fact, lemme test that |
20:48.28 | ckknight | yea, currently I know a bug in PitBull and now how to fix it |
20:48.36 | ckknight | will be painful but should fix a lot of things overall |
20:48.53 | break19 | painful to the devs, or painful to the end users? lol |
20:48.55 | ckknight | but I gotta hit lvl 10 |
20:48.57 | ckknight | painful to me |
20:49.01 | ckknight | and only me |
20:49.30 | Chompers | the druid bug? |
20:49.52 | ckknight | no, Chompers |
20:49.58 | ckknight | well, yes |
20:50.01 | ckknight | but it's not a druid bug |
20:50.14 | ckknight | but it is the bug that can happen with druids |
20:50.21 | break19 | ckknight: yea.. putting it back into the main addon folder fixes the issue.... |
20:50.49 | Gngsk | ckknight, will it fix power bar updating on target frame switching in combat? |
20:50.59 | ckknight | break19: ah, I know the issue, then |
20:51.10 | break19 | me too |
20:51.12 | break19 | line 112 :) |
20:51.14 | ckknight | Gngsk: potentially |
20:51.23 | Gngsk | I'll keep an eye out then |
20:51.27 | ckknight | break19: yea, it should figure out from the debugstack what the current path is... |
20:52.43 | break19 | might it be more efficient to do a quick check of the 2 possible locations for the tga, and then set the correct one? |
20:52.49 | ckknight | path = "Interface\\AddOns\\" .. debugstack():match("[O%.][n%.][s%.]\\(.+\\).-%.lua") |
20:53.06 | vhaarr | Bibi`ouF: "Seriously, get Firefox", haha |
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20:53.19 | ckknight | try that, break19 |
20:53.24 | break19 | is there not a way to do a fileexists under wow's lua? |
20:53.24 | ckknight | then do path .. "thing.tga" |
20:53.29 | break19 | kk copy/pasting |
20:53.36 | Bibi`ouF | vhaarr : my site looks horrible with IE6 :/ |
20:53.48 | vhaarr | Bibi`ouF: I wouldn't know, I've not used IE in years :) |
20:53.51 | Bibi`ouF | same |
20:53.58 | Bibi`ouF | but I tried yesterday, don't remember why |
20:54.27 | Bibi`ouF | and basically, what's enough to not show scroll bars with firefox isn't enough with IE |
20:54.28 | Bibi`ouF | :p |
20:55.08 | break19 | combo:SetTexture(path.."\\combo.tga") ? |
20:55.23 | Gagorian | vhaarr: Revert it for me plix, I'll fix it with UTF-8. |
20:55.38 | ckknight | yes, break19 |
20:55.41 | break19 | kk |
20:56.39 | Pneu | someone remind me what that timer bar addon is called that is better than Sorrens timers pls :) |
20:56.50 | break19 | kk, reloading wow. |
20:57.01 | vhaarr | Gagorian: alright |
20:58.12 | Aiiane | Pneu: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4803/kharthuss-hunter-timers/ ? if you're just wanting hunter timers |
20:58.29 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33997 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0: Fix locale breakage from Gagorians last commit. |
20:58.42 | break19 | ckknight: hm, doesnt appear to work.. |
20:58.54 | ckknight | errors? |
20:59.04 | break19 | no |
20:59.10 | Pneu | Aiiane: i use sorrens for all classes, but theres another Ace2 one i think thats better, at least i saw something the other day but i cant for the life of me remember what it was called |
20:59.19 | Aiiane | dunno about ace2 |
20:59.20 | Gagorian | vhaarr: You left the change in? mmkay |
20:59.22 | Aiiane | I prefer NECB |
20:59.29 | break19 | just not getting any type of combo dot/bar at all unless I change to "bar" |
20:59.30 | vhaarr | Gagorian: yes, why not? |
20:59.32 | Aiiane | natur's enemycastbars |
20:59.34 | Pneu | oh, Chronometer perhaps |
20:59.49 | yacoob | hm |
20:59.51 | break19 | lemme try somethin |
20:59.59 | yacoob | is there a way to bind key to a stance with bartender? |
21:00.57 | break19 | weird. now its showing the white bar, even if default is selected. |
21:01.05 | Gagorian | vhaarr: Yeah, I guess almost as easy. It's annoying that my main editor isn't proper UTF-8, but I like the program otherwise. I usually use another one for localizations but forgot now. |
21:01.39 | vhaarr | Gagorian: It's always a good idea to do a diff before committing. |
21:01.59 | Gagorian | Indeed :l |
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21:02.41 | Gngsk | Pneu, cdt2? |
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21:03.25 | Gngsk | uh, nvm that does something totally different. |
21:03.35 | ven | yacoob, can't you bind stances via the default key bindings? |
21:03.51 | peanut` | anyone know the mod that makes guild/say/yell color coded and simplier? |
21:04.26 | Megalon | peanut`: Prat? |
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21:05.36 | peanut` | might be |
21:05.39 | peanut` | lemmy install that |
21:05.49 | Fin | Prat can do that |
21:06.02 | peanut` | its the chat text in this screenshot |
21:06.03 | peanut` | http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cmermag/claw2.jpg |
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21:06.34 | Megalon | yea, that's Prat |
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21:06.38 | peanut` | awsome |
21:06.41 | peanut` | thanks =] |
21:06.45 | Sais | OK. I'm confused. I was getting an error in DewdropLib with FuBar-KillMeterFu is attached to the minimap and had 'tooltip detached' set...but having unset those options and then re-enabled them, it's no longer giving the error. :( |
21:06.47 | Fin | Prat will do that, but you'll need another mod to change the font |
21:06.48 | Megalon | but no clue if it's also to change the Font |
21:07.05 | peanut` | Fin: any idea what mod? |
21:07.10 | Fin | s/do that/colours chat text like that/ |
21:07.15 | Fin | bah |
21:07.18 | CIA-31 | 03gagorian * r33998 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: |
21:07.18 | CIA-31 | .BigWigs_Outland/Magtheridon.lua: |
21:07.18 | CIA-31 | -Attempt to make initial blast nova timer more accurate |
21:07.19 | Fin | -s |
21:11.13 | Punkie` | the only thing that will make the chat in that screenshot better |
21:11.18 | Punkie` | is if it was good old comic sans ms |
21:11.34 | Fin | now you're cooking with gas |
21:11.42 | Pneu | bring back 1990 |
21:12.14 | Fin | hey, 1990 never went anywhere |
21:12.46 | Fin | it's alive and kicking |
21:12.52 | Punkie` | but seriously |
21:12.55 | Punkie` | wtf at that screenie! |
21:13.12 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33999 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - change all (ANSI) degree symbols to \176 and all (ANSI) plus/minus symbols to \177. This should relieve issues with foreigners. |
21:13.12 | Punkie` | it has like 3 mods just to display the xp bar! |
21:14.20 | Fin | redundancy is the key to being secure in your environment |
21:14.23 | peanut` | doesnt clearfont2 change the fonts? |
21:14.33 | Punkie` | lmao Fin :D |
21:14.34 | Fin | clearfont2 changes the fonts, not the colours |
21:16.03 | Vangual | the lack of background behind texts makes my eyes bleed |
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21:17.04 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r34000 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Don't try to read global 'method'. |
21:17.43 | nymbia | 34k already O.o |
21:17.44 | Punkie` | Vangual, who needs a background when you can do a drop shadow? |
21:19.22 | Vangual | i do, shadows or dark outlines still make it it hard to read and locate certain texts depending on whetever is visible behind it |
21:19.24 | break19 | ckknight: it gets curiouser and curiouser.... |
21:19.29 | ckknight | hrm? |
21:19.37 | Fin | baby jesus |
21:19.41 | Fin | baby jesus needs backgrounds |
21:19.52 | Fin | see? look, he's crying again |
21:20.28 | Gngsk | http://www.holyfolks.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Detail-BlueRing-Baby-Jesus.gif |
21:21.14 | Vangual | that image could use some background with more contrast to the his white cloth aswell ;> |
21:23.01 | break19 | ckknight: I copied the saved file back, and just manually modified the path to be "Interface\\AddOns\\PitBull_ComboPoints\\combo.tga" and it still doesnt show |
21:24.01 | break19 | but it works fine as an included module, just not as a separate addon.. *scratches head* |
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21:25.42 | ckknight | fully reboot WoW? could be some weird issue not recognizing the files |
21:25.52 | break19 | lemme try it |
21:26.04 | break19 | i'll try anythin at this point |
21:26.07 | break19 | heh |
21:26.12 | kergoth | disabling pitbull party configuration mode while in a party doesnt fix the party member auras |
21:26.16 | kergoth | they still have the x's |
21:26.28 | break19 | ..within reason of course lol |
21:26.46 | kergoth | or rather, it shows their real auras in those slots, but the ones where they have no auras still have x's |
21:26.46 | break19 | "delete wow and reinstall?" "uhh no" heh |
21:27.03 | kergoth | also, pitbull 'square' group mode for party is fucked up when you dont have 4 party members |
21:27.48 | kergoth | it puts them right in the middle instead of at their proper positions in the square |
21:27.51 | kergoth | hrm |
21:27.54 | break19 | ckknight: nope, still no combo dots |
21:28.31 | break19 | fuck it, I'll just include it in the main addon for now |
21:29.54 | break19 | in other news.. I feel like I've lost 10lbs... had the wife take the clippers to my head. buzzzzz heh |
21:30.16 | ckknight | break19: I'll look into it, though |
21:30.40 | break19 | ckknight: no rush, as long as I know how to fix it when my updater decides to move it back out. :p |
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21:32.27 | break19 | ckknight: while you're at it, can you have them not be over-written by the cast bar? :) |
21:32.42 | ckknight | mmm... no |
21:32.49 | ckknight | that's a layout issue, though |
21:33.24 | Ominous | im being really stupid... i cant see a way to simplify this horrible thing, not ((UnitID ~= "player" and UnitName(UnitID) ~= UnitName("player")) or (UnitID ~= "player" and UnitID ~= "target" and UnitName(UnitID) ~= UnitName("target"))), anyone? |
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21:33.37 | Eej | I haven't played around with Pitbull that much yet, but is it possible to move the castbars to dock on top of the unitframe? |
21:33.45 | vhaarr | Ominous: UnitIsUnit("player", unitId) |
21:34.24 | break19 | I use the default one, abf. I dont think it's always overwritten, I could swear before i updated, they were below the frame, not inside it.. but I could be wrong. |
21:34.37 | kergoth | ckknight: who did the square grouping? |
21:34.47 | ckknight | nevcairiel |
21:34.55 | kergoth | Eej: with a custom layout, certainly, but i dont think the existing ones let you do that |
21:34.58 | kergoth | nevcairiel: ping |
21:37.36 | Matrix110 | btw can it be that SpamSentry delays some whisper messages quite alot? I get sound from ChatSounds of Prat like 5sec before sometimes before the actual message appears and its SpamSentry doing it |
21:38.54 | harldephin | can i prevent AllPlayed from adopting the text size setting from the main FuBar somehow ? |
21:39.39 | ckknight | don't think so, harldephin |
21:41.20 | harldephin | pity.. i use a text size of 24 for my FuBar and always have to lower AllPlayed's text size then down zu 12 again manually. it's the only add-on where it actually bothers me |
21:41.45 | ckknight | what's AllPlayed do, anyway? |
21:42.25 | harldephin | showing all chars XP, rested XP and gold (on all realms) in a tooltip |
21:42.25 | Punkie` | shows your total playtime |
21:42.32 | harldephin | and that, too |
21:43.53 | ckknight | I prefer RestFu |
21:44.11 | ckknight | doesn't show money, though. I use MoneyFu for that |
21:44.17 | harldephin | heh |
21:50.32 | Pneu | moneyfu + restfu here also :) |
21:50.59 | Pneu | restfu to remind me how many chars im too lazy to level, and moneyfu to remind me how poor i am |
21:51.37 | Stephmw | wow. just loaded up without addons for the first time in months. didn't realise they added so much to the loading time |
21:52.00 | Gagorian | Weird |
21:52.12 | sedatedChipmunk | hehe yea |
21:52.27 | sedatedChipmunk | well, just reloadui |
21:52.31 | Thrae | Stephmw: Should only add extensively to the initial loading, not instances |
21:52.34 | sedatedChipmunk | and that's about how much time it adds |
21:52.41 | Stephmw | yeah, just initial load |
21:52.55 | Gagorian | Dewdrop slider is still working a bit bizzare. The value set by SetValue is different than the one received through GetValue right after SetValue. |
21:54.05 | kergoth | and it still vanishes sometimes while typing into the input box :( |
21:54.16 | kergoth | i think its when you input something, hit enter, then input something again.. then it vanishes |
21:54.25 | Fin | is GuildFu broken? |
21:54.59 | nevcairiel | kergoth: ? |
21:55.12 | Gagorian | kergoth: Yeah, that's weird |
21:55.56 | kergoth | nevcairiel: the square grouping acts oddly when the group isnt full.. at least, it acts oddly to me. the first and second group members are positioned in the middle of the square, instead of at the positions you configured in pitbull's config mode |
21:55.58 | kergoth | and depending on how you arranged your party pet and party targets, that means they dont line up properly as well |
21:56.03 | nevcairiel | hrm |
21:56.09 | nevcairiel | i might know why |
21:56.14 | nevcairiel | wonder if i can fix tha |
21:56.49 | nevcairiel | i guess the header is anchord on "center", and when it expands, moves to both sides. |
21:57.07 | kergoth | ah, hmm |
21:58.31 | TecnoBrat | hmmm time to see what my total playtime on all of my chars is |
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22:02.16 | nevcairiel | kergoth: i will see what i can when we finished karazhan |
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22:04.14 | nevcairiel | +do |
22:04.25 | nevcairiel | chatting while healing ftl |
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22:06.24 | undu | Hmmmmm, any possibility of having a numerical combo point toggle with settings for font size, color, offset etc? |
22:11.06 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r34001 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua): |
22:11.06 | CIA-31 | Cartographer - switch to current zone when map is not shown and user changes zones |
22:11.06 | CIA-31 | Cartographer_Waypoints - potentially fix issues with waypoint times being way off. |
22:11.22 | harldephin | hehe |
22:14.58 | kergoth | nevcairiel: thanks |
22:15.21 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r34002 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
22:15.21 | CIA-31 | PitBull_Aura: |
22:15.21 | CIA-31 | - Throttle aura updates for wacky units to twice a second. |
22:15.21 | CIA-31 | - Increase bucket delay for UNIT_AURA to a quarter second. |
22:16.09 | ckknight | nymbia: one thing is that :UpdateFrame is called every 0.15 seconds |
22:16.16 | ckknight | does it not respond to that now or what? |
22:16.56 | nymbia | ckknight: still responds, but doesnt call the aura update if it's a wacky frame and it's been < 0.5 seconds since the last time it called the aura update |
22:17.13 | ckknight | ah, okay |
22:17.33 | ckknight | well, I've almost got my bear form |
22:17.42 | ckknight | once I get that, I'll fix some bugs |
22:17.47 | nymbia | ooh nice |
22:18.53 | Hjalte | I was thinking, it really annoys me in Cartographer that when i look at an instance map for loot for example and fly and then switch zone the map changes. What about making an option that if you look at an instance map, the map wont toggle to another map? |
22:19.16 | vhaarr | "Lock"? |
22:19.55 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r34003 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
22:19.55 | CIA-31 | PitBull_Aura: |
22:19.55 | CIA-31 | - Local references to select and unpack |
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22:21.27 | Hjalte | vhaarr, ah, it does that? :P |
22:21.36 | vhaarr | Hjalte: I don't know, maybe. |
22:22.25 | ckknight | Hjalte: that's a bug. |
22:22.26 | [FH]Birdemani | hello, getting an error on statlogiclib - bad argument #1 to 'strfind' (string expected, got table) line 6285 |
22:22.40 | Fin | every map addon does that |
22:22.48 | Fin | (that I've tried) |
22:23.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Hjalte: I use atlasloot for that reason :P |
22:24.06 | Hjalte | NightHawkTheSane, I'm trying to use Cartographer instead of atlasloot :) |
22:24.17 | abyssichate | [FH]Birdemani: I am getting the same |
22:24.24 | nymbia | generally, it's another addon changing the zone |
22:24.39 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* For just looking at loot, i think AtlasLoot is better, personally, but thats me. |
22:26.28 | Hjalte | nymbia, but I was told once it is blizzard behaviour? |
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22:28.57 | ckknight | alright, got my bear form |
22:29.46 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r34004 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (Bars/Rogue.lua Locales/koKR.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: the bars only bug when targeting yourself now, (i think) fixed koKR locals |
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22:36.58 | Ominous | right i cant get this to work i need a line of code which returns true if the name of UnitID is the same as Name of Player but UnitID is not player and also name of UnitID is the same as target but UnitID is not target |
22:37.58 | Nargiddley | name is the same or they are the same unit ? |
22:38.45 | JoshBorke | UnitIsUnit(<unit1>,<unit2>)? |
22:38.52 | CIA-31 | 03fin * r34005 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: Prat: fixed missing nil check removed from last Alias update |
22:39.03 | JoshBorke | because hunters can have pets with the same name as the player |
22:39.17 | ckknight | if UnitName("player") == UnitName(unit) and not UnitIsUnit("player", unit) and not UnitIsUnit("target", unit) then |
22:39.21 | ckknight | or something |
22:40.55 | Ominous | if you have focus on mob 1 and target mob 2 and they have the same name will UnitIsUnit("target", "focus") return true or false |
22:41.25 | Nargiddley | only if they are the same unit, name doesnt matter |
22:41.50 | Funkeh` | shieldb: ping |
22:42.03 | Funkeh` | shieldb: clear all collosus timers on karathress death |
22:42.40 | JoshBorke | Ominous: test it, but i'm guessing false, since they aren't the same unit |
22:43.17 | Ominous | ok i meant to say, thanks for the reminder nargiddley,... if UnitID is the same unit as player but unitID is not player and also UnitID is the same Unit as target but UnitID is not target |
22:43.56 | shieldb | Funkeh`, karathress controls all the colossi timers for the zone? |
22:44.09 | ckknight | Ominous: dude, UnitIsUnit |
22:44.10 | shieldb | or just the ones near him? |
22:44.22 | Nargiddley | unitid ~= 'player' and UnitIsUnit(unitid,'player') |
22:44.32 | ckknight | yea, that's it |
22:45.04 | Funkeh` | shieldb: the ones near him |
22:45.05 | CIA-31 | 03fin * r34006 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: added /alt guildimport - checks the guild roster member alts to link to mains (matches members with rank "alt" or "alts", and members with public or officer's notes like "<name>'s alt") |
22:45.08 | Funkeh` | shieldb: but it doesn't matter |
22:45.33 | Funkeh` | shieldb: the way the instance is, you can safely clear any coloosus timer on his death |
22:45.51 | vhaarr | Ominous: Dude, I just told you about UnitIsUnit like 2 hours ago. |
22:46.01 | shieldb | yeah, I was mainly curious as to if he shut off all colossi spawns for the zone or not |
22:46.35 | Funkeh` | shieldb: nah, theres cllosus at other places |
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22:48.28 | Ominous | vhaarr: i have been trying but havent got it to work, hence i asked |
22:52.00 | evl | ... |
22:52.05 | evl | after I started running PitBull |
22:52.21 | evl | I'm getting so much 132 I feel like I'm rolling 1d20 for crash/nocrash |
22:52.36 | [FH]Birdemani | pitbull was doing something wierd to me earlier if i changed an option it made the frame nearly transparent |
22:52.46 | [FH]Birdemani | esp if i changed the buff options |
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22:52.58 | nymbia | evl: when are you crashin |
22:53.14 | evl | now? entering AB |
22:53.17 | evl | I got a screen |
22:53.53 | Saroz | cool Fin |
22:54.28 | evl | nymbia: http://i14.tinypic.com/4bhr9ll.jpg |
22:54.49 | evl | or "Roll 1d20 and risk -rating" |
22:54.53 | ckknight | listen, I'm on it. |
22:54.58 | ckknight | now stop bitching |
22:55.12 | ckknight | it's more annoying than helpful |
22:55.12 | Fin | Saroz: I've been meaning to add it for ages, just haven't had a guild to test with :) |
22:55.19 | evl | Yeah sorry :/ |
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22:55.29 | Fin | hehe, yeah, stop bitching :P |
22:55.36 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: you roll a dice pool equal to you're computer's Hardness rating, Target Value 6 +Pitbull's Complexity Rating (12) ;) |
22:55.55 | Fin | you're like a - ahaha - lost puppy |
22:56.19 | Zicon | nighthawkthesane: Thank you. You just broke my brain. |
22:56.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Zicon: my pleasure. |
22:57.19 | evl | ckknight: also having some problems with healthbar colors and class colors not updating when roster is updated |
22:57.24 | ckknight | dude |
22:57.26 | ckknight | I'm fucking on it |
22:57.30 | ckknight | it's the same issue |
22:57.41 | ckknight | now stop fucking bothering me |
22:58.14 | Fin | ckknight: sure you're not barking up the wrong tree? |
22:58.41 | Fin | *a tish boom!* |
22:58.47 | Fin | god, I slay myself, I really do |
22:59.05 | nymbia | ~whaleslap Fin |
22:59.10 | purl | ACTION beats Fin upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
22:59.17 | nymbia | ~whalenametheft Fin |
22:59.20 | purl | ACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) kicks Fin's ass and steals his/her name. The now anonymous target weeps. |
22:59.40 | Thrae | "Fin" is a good name for a whale |
22:59.52 | nymbia | indeed |
23:00.04 | chutwig | ~roulette |
23:00.06 | purl | ACTION watches chutwig pull the trigger: Click! |
23:00.12 | chutwig | again! |
23:00.14 | chutwig | ~roulette |
23:00.16 | purl | ACTION watches chutwig pull the trigger: Click! |
23:00.19 | *** part/#wowace Cairenn (n=Owner@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
23:00.21 | chutwig | hohoho |
23:00.26 | Fin | I tried to get my guild members to call me "Sharkey" once... didn't stick |
23:00.39 | chutwig | ~roulette |
23:00.41 | purl | ACTION watches chutwig pull the trigger: Click! |
23:01.27 | packetls1 | ~roulette |
23:01.29 | purl | ACTION watches packetls1 pull the trigger: Click! |
23:01.42 | Fin | five quid you're dead next round |
23:01.54 | packetlss | ~roulette |
23:01.56 | purl | ACTION watches packetlss pull the trigger: BANG! |
23:02.01 | packetlss | OUCH |
23:02.11 | chutwig | bam |
23:02.34 | NightHawkTheSane | wow, that sucks. Not only are you dead, but you owe Fin. |
23:02.34 | chutwig | bezahlen! |
23:02.53 | Fin | ! |
23:03.09 | Fin | that looks suspiciously like Czech |
23:03.20 | chutwig | nein |
23:03.43 | Zicon | German looks like Czech? That's a new one. |
23:03.52 | Megalon | hm |
23:04.04 | Fin | well... that particular *word* looks like Czech... |
23:04.20 | Fin | I'm not sure you can extrapolate that to the entire language |
23:04.21 | chutwig | the only czech word i know is storno |
23:04.25 | Fin | stop! |
23:04.29 | *** join/#wowace VII-Beherit (n=marco@p509179CA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
23:04.30 | Gngsk | is it still possible to increase combat log range using a cVar? |
23:04.32 | VII-Beherit | hi there+ |
23:04.33 | chutwig | it was on a ticket vending machine in vienna |
23:04.38 | Fin | Gngsk: yes |
23:04.44 | *** join/#wowace kaiden (n=kaiden@63.229.62.12) |
23:04.46 | Fin | or cancel :) |
23:04.50 | chutwig | why they couldn't have put "abbrechen" instead |
23:04.56 | chutwig | i don't really know |
23:04.57 | Gngsk | fin, which var and what value? |
23:05.06 | VII-Beherit | can anyone explain me why wau doenst work on my laptop. but on my normal pc. laptop just says "retrievin addon list" |
23:05.11 | Fin | Gngsk: dunno, but oTweaks fiddles with those values, have a look at it |
23:05.17 | Gngsk | k, thx |
23:05.59 | CIA-31 | 03shieldb * r34007 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc): Incubator: Fathom-Lord Karathress now shuts off any running Underbog Colossus timers when he dies. |
23:06.23 | Fin | godammit |
23:06.38 | Fin | that's twice I've attacked the alliance gryphon guy |
23:07.01 | chutwig | zweimal unerfolgreich angegriffen! |
23:07.04 | Fin | Horde... I'm Horde... |
23:07.27 | Morghus | Fin: I feel with you :( |
23:07.31 | VII-Beherit | any idea with wau? |
23:07.32 | Gagorian | ckknight: Is it intended that the values in dewdrop are only saved if the scrolling happens exactly over the slider bar? If I scroll in the frame, the values change but aren't saved. |
23:07.48 | chutwig | VII-Beherit: you sure there isn't something running on the laptop blocking the outbound connection? |
23:07.49 | ckknight | that shouldn't be |
23:08.20 | VII-Beherit | mhm just the normal windows thing where it asks if i wanna block |
23:08.25 | VII-Beherit | but it hasnt asked me yet |
23:08.33 | Gagorian | It's like that at least with values that require the change I did earlier.. And the text box entered values aren't saved at all |
23:10.29 | VII-Beherit | what was the console command vor checking the connections to the web by program |
23:10.30 | VII-Beherit | net...? |
23:10.57 | chutwig | netstat |
23:10.59 | Saroz | lol |
23:11.05 | Saroz | alt names is making an error now |
23:11.24 | Saroz | util.lua:411: attempt to perform arithimatic on local r (a nil value) |
23:12.26 | Gagorian | ckknight: It's weird.. I scroll the value to something else, then check via console commands and the value is correct. I exit the slider frame and return, then the value is the same old value |
23:12.56 | Gagorian | It's already changed, but exiting the tooltip changes it back.. unless mouse has been hovered over slider. |
23:12.57 | ckknight | well, I neither know nor care a great deal |
23:13.04 | kaiden | something is seriously wrong with the combo point system in the latest pitbull revision :P |
23:13.32 | Gagorian | ckknight: Well, it makes some dewdrop sliders unusable so it would be nice to find a solution. |
23:13.35 | kaiden | when default texture is chosen combo points dont show up, you switch to bar and it shows up, switch back to default and the bar texture still shows |
23:13.46 | ckknight | Gagorian: feel free to look for yourself, I'm busy |
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23:21.06 | CIA-31 | 03saroz * r34008 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: AltNames: Add "Officer alt" pattern and make variables local so they don't pollute the global scope |
23:21.44 | Saroz | :p |
23:21.49 | Fin | could've sworn I'd localised stuff |
23:22.02 | Fin | and, nice one on the "Officer alt" thing, didn't think of that\ |
23:22.14 | nymbia | locals are for chumps |
23:22.20 | nymbia | globals are where it's at |
23:22.37 | Fin | I want to make it so that it builds a list of all the guild members, then checks each member's public & officer notes to see if it's an exact match against an existing member, cos some guilds do it that way |
23:22.48 | Saroz | ye |
23:23.06 | Saroz | Well it's working fine |
23:23.07 | Fin | or just an some options for how to import |
23:23.17 | Fin | great! |
23:23.36 | Saroz | Just make the pattern an option, if you have to |
23:23.38 | Fin | I'm such a newbie to lua |
23:23.48 | Saroz | however, we just use the name of the main as note, so I don't really care |
23:23.56 | Saroz | Saved me from entering 117 names |
23:23.56 | Saroz | gg |
23:24.11 | Fin | nice! |
23:24.51 | Saroz | would be nice with a IsGuildMember() check on the name of the main though |
23:24.52 | Saroz | but meh |
23:25.26 | Fin | I haven't had much feedback about it, and I was looking for an addon with the same functionality for such a long time, it felt like noone else thought it would be useful :) it's nice to hear I'm not the only person who finds it useful |
23:25.30 | Fin | well |
23:26.42 | Fin | I thought of that, it's just a lot of guilds don't use the exact name (most of my officers couldn't even spell), and I figured people wouldn't mind seeing "Paladinaroz (Sar)" (eg, someone's common nickname) |
23:27.04 | Fin | if you know what I mean |
23:27.15 | Saroz | meh |
23:27.23 | Saroz | fuck those :p |
23:27.32 | Fin | hehe |
23:27.42 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r34009 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
23:27.42 | CIA-31 | PitBull_Spark: |
23:27.42 | CIA-31 | - Maybe fix a nil error. I'd know for sure if it was fixed if people bothered giving decent bug reports on the forum thread. :p |
23:28.28 | Gagorian | ckknight: I think I solved it |
23:28.33 | Fin | also I'm currently in an guild which is (at the moment) just a parking spot for alts |
23:28.34 | ckknight | yay |
23:28.45 | Gagorian | the OnEnter and OnLeave functions were set for the slider and not the dewdrop slider frame |
23:28.49 | ckknight | I'm fixing all of PitBull :-P |
23:28.53 | ckknight | ah, alright |
23:28.56 | Fin | grats ckknight! |
23:29.03 | ckknight | well, theoretically |
23:29.11 | ckknight | basically, :GetUnitFrame was flawed |
23:29.31 | Saroz | buuuh |
23:32.36 | Saroz | *cough* suckup *cough* |
23:32.38 | Fin | oh dear I can't stop laughing |
23:33.05 | Fin | dude! it was just an excuse for a class pun! :) |
23:33.12 | Fin | dogged perseverance! |
23:33.38 | ckknight | don't make me lay the smackdown |
23:34.40 | Fin | aw, I wouldn't worry, ckknight's bark is worse than his bite |
23:34.42 | Fin | ahaha |
23:35.14 | Fin | boom! 10 points! |
23:35.24 | *** join/#wowace sergio (i=sp@unaffiliated/sergio) |
23:35.29 | Fin | oh dear I'm sorry |
23:36.05 | *** kick/#wowace [Fin!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (life's a bitch) |
23:36.14 | *** join/#wowace Fin (n=Fin@migi.instinct.org) |
23:36.19 | Fin | hahahahahah |
23:36.19 | Saroz | awww |
23:36.35 | Fin | brilliant |
23:36.41 | Fin | or should I say ace |
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23:38.11 | nymbia | ~literal Fin |
23:38.17 | purl | "fin" is "Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors, or known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl?" |
23:38.31 | nymbia | bah |
23:38.34 | Fin | I better be quiet... guess I'm in the doghouse |
23:38.42 | CIA-31 | 03gagorian * r34010 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
23:38.42 | CIA-31 | DewdropLib: |
23:38.42 | CIA-31 | -Changed the slider OnEnter and OnLeave functions to the slider dewdrop frame. Should allow editbox and mouse scrolled changes to save properly. |
23:38.52 | ckknight | thanks, Gagorian |
23:39.00 | hyperChipmunk | nicely done |
23:39.10 | ckknight | ~pgl |
23:39.25 | Fin | hey... no stalking |
23:39.44 | Fin | :) |
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23:40.30 | Fin | Freedom to Innervate... my druid's only level 26 though... |
23:40.31 | VII-Beherit | wtf have they changed somethin on heroic darkweaver syth? |
23:40.46 | VII-Beherit | karazahn and 25er inst equipped ppl |
23:40.53 | VII-Beherit | and they nuke us down like LOL |
23:41.03 | VII-Beherit | last time it was easy crap |
23:41.43 | Saroz | QQ |
23:41.53 | vodrin | that the one with the elemental adds? |
23:41.57 | VII-Beherit | yeah |
23:41.59 | Fin | literal gets "raw factoid contents"? |
23:42.04 | Saroz | no man |
23:42.05 | VII-Beherit | last kill just max dmg on boss |
23:42.05 | Saroz | it's easy |
23:42.08 | Saroz | killed it last night |
23:42.12 | VII-Beherit | now we wipe at 30% |
23:42.13 | Saroz | kill a few adds first |
23:42.15 | Saroz | then pwn boss |
23:42.18 | Saroz | easy as fucking piss |
23:42.19 | VII-Beherit | i am gettin crzy |
23:42.27 | VII-Beherit | thats what i thought to |
23:42.27 | Saroz | kill 2 waves of adds |
23:42.35 | Saroz | and it's soo easy |
23:42.37 | shieldb | the adds show up every 30% or somesuch, we usually just kill the first two waves then AOE fear the third |
23:42.40 | shieldb | easy loot |
23:42.48 | Saroz | bingo |
23:42.49 | VII-Beherit | do the adds spawn at % or after time |
23:42.53 | shieldb | % |
23:42.55 | Saroz | % |
23:42.57 | malifae | for the record, pitbull is incredible, thanks guys~ |
23:43.01 | vodrin | we just press heroism.. howl of terror / physic scream |
23:43.02 | vodrin | nuke |
23:43.06 | Saroz | nah |
23:43.25 | Fin | (got to go see a man about a dog ahahahah) |
23:43.30 | Fin | l |
23:43.31 | vodrin | but yeah its best of killing the spawns =o |
23:43.31 | Fin | -l |
23:44.06 | ckknight | ~fin-- |