IRC log for #wowace on 20070428

00:00.13chutwigi watched the director's cut of that
00:00.14chutwigsooooooo long
00:00.14KarlThePaganwowace.com down?
00:00.28Azurewrathif you watch Das Boot, you have to watch the 4 hours directors cut ;)
00:00.28trhChompers: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_%E2%80%93_Nichts_ist_so_wie_es_scheint theres a german description about that movie =)
00:00.42chutwigi did like good bye lenin
00:00.43Azurewrathor was it six hours?
00:00.43GnarfozI had the neice of the main actor (Juergen Prochnow) as a teacher at some point ;D
00:00.54chutwigand now i know what they say at german burger kings
00:01.10chutwigguten appetit, und vielen dank dass sie für burger king entschieden haben
00:01.19trhchutwig: haha.. yea.. that's true :)
00:01.19Azurewrathhaha
00:01.27Gnarfozheh, at the drive-through they might say that
00:01.31chutwigdo they really?
00:01.35Azurewrathno.
00:01.40chutwigin america they pretty much throw the bag at you
00:01.46Azurewrathsame here ;)
00:01.57Gnarfozthey might, I don't really ever go to the drive-through ;D
00:02.00trhchutwig: fun fact about burger-king and mcd in germany: they call the drive-through "drive-in" because germans habe problems pronouncing the "through" =)
00:02.10chutwigtrh: ze drive-zroo
00:02.19Gnarfozit'd be about syntactically correct and all, don't know d-t etiquette
00:02.32trhchutwig: ya.. the "th" is the problem... i can speak it, but many germans can't :)
00:02.38Gnarfoznp: "Weird Al" Yankovic - Trapped In The Drive-Thru · [>>--------] (25%/10:51)
00:02.40Gnarfozheh. :D
00:02.48chutwigif it makes you feel any better i had to take speech therapy lessons because i mangled it for years
00:02.50chutwigit's a hard sound
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00:03.24trhchutwig: ya.. isn't the easiest one ;)
00:03.25chutwigmeh, netflix doesn't have nichts ist so wie es scheint
00:03.32Gnarfoz_most speak it as some kind of "s"
00:03.54Azurewrathmy first english teacher was like 700 years old and spent half of his life in england, scotland and wales.. but hey, i can speak the th now ;)
00:04.05chutwigmy first german teacher concentrated mostly on reading and writing
00:04.18chutwigconsequently i've never been that comfortable with speaking it
00:04.27chutwigthough i've been told my accent is not too bad
00:04.44Azurewrathmust be pretty hard as an american.. the accent sounds funny ;)
00:04.48Gnarfoz_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/ < 23 ;)
00:04.55chutwigwell
00:04.58chutwigi don't say the american r
00:05.09chutwigand i get the ch sounds right
00:05.13trhhehe.. i remember a funny story at our local burgerking.. we had discount cards to get 10% discount on our order... so we showed them and the clerk-chick had a problem with the cash-register-thingy... we had to pay about 11euro, and we told her to just accept the 10 euro bill, because 10% of 11eur are surely more than 1eur
00:05.21trhtook about 5 minutes until she got that
00:05.54Gnarfoz_chutwig: the ch/sch sounds are I guess the top thing to get wrong (just like the th the other way around)
00:06.09trhi love how the bavarians roll the 'r' ;)
00:06.16chutwigGnarfoz_: from my experiences while learning the hardest things for most americans are the r sounds, ö, and ü
00:06.18Gnarfoz_rrrrrrr
00:06.24chutwigi use the french r personally
00:06.34chutwigrrrrrrrrrennen
00:06.42Gnarfoz_^^
00:06.57trhchutwig: ya.. it sounds like a violently beaten weasel ;)
00:07.20chutwigarmes wiesel
00:07.22Gnarfoz_I'd rather level a char naked with only a level 1 weapon from 1 - 70 and back (?!) than learn German as a second language, I guess
00:07.33Gnarfoz_it has so many pit falls and weird stuff
00:07.42trhGnarfoz: latin is even worse :)
00:07.47Azurewrathnicht mehr als das englische. ;p
00:07.48chutwigi wouldn't necessarily accuse english of being any different
00:07.48chutwigj
00:07.54Gnarfoz_dunno
00:08.05chutwigjust that in english you have a higher probability of success or at least basic comprehension by slapping one word in front of the other
00:08.12trhi think spanish is one of the easiest languages
00:08.21Gnarfoz_most people don't have the luxury of an untainted perspective on 'which language is easier to learn'
00:08.22chutwigbecause we ditched most of our inflections
00:08.23Azurewrathtrh: oh yes... i had latin for about for years.. and all i remember is "puella cantat"
00:08.32Gnarfoz_lol
00:08.35Gnarfoz_the girl sings ^^
00:08.39trhAzurewrath: hehe.. i had it for 3 years.. and forgot everything
00:08.42Azurewrathright ;)
00:08.42chutwigcurse you germans and your foul adjective declensions that took me years to master
00:08.47chutwigpuellae cantant
00:08.52trhAzurewrath: even got the small latinum ;)
00:08.55Gnarfoz_that'd be multiple girls
00:09.31Gnarfoz_I had 8 years of latin, 4 years of ancient greek (wooo) and 7 years of english in school... and I didn't even finish school ;D
00:09.33chutwigpuella non cantare potest
00:09.45trhGnarfoz: omg... sounds hardcore =)
00:09.45Azurewrathagricola asinus est, errare humanum est ;p
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00:09.56chutwigi had 4 years of latin, 10 years of german, and a little french
00:09.59trhGnarfoz: sprachliches gymnasium? ;)
00:10.02Gnarfoz_trh: 5. klasse latein, 7. englisch, 9. altgriechisch
00:10.10Gnarfoz_trh: jo =)
00:10.14trhGnarfoz: autsch ;)
00:10.23Bam_DKthink it will cause taint trouble to hook GetContainerItemInfo directly?
00:10.42chutwigwünsche mir, dass amerika so eines gymnasium bieten würde
00:10.45trhGnarfoz: i think i'd have been fucked at such a school ;)
00:10.45Gnarfoz_trh: when I was there... yes, very ouch, but in retrospect, I think it's quite useful
00:10.55chutwigist typisch sehr schwer, fremdsprachen hier zu lernen
00:11.01chutwiganders als spanisch
00:11.05trhGnarfoz: never got good grades in languages
00:11.11Ominousin a string.gsub how do you replace a (?
00:11.18chutwig\( doesn't work?
00:11.20Gnarfoz_I could've... but I'm so lazy by nature it's not even funny :D
00:11.22trhOminous: %(
00:11.33chutwigfriggin' lua always has to do things different
00:11.36Azurewrathchutwig: Wieso lernt man eigentlich Deutsch als Amerikaner? Ich hätte vermutet dass bei euch eher Spanisch die normale Zweitsprache ist ;)
00:11.58Ominoustrh: thanks
00:12.03chutwigAzurewrath: meine hochschule hat deutsch geboten, aber das ist nicht typisch
00:12.04trhGnarfoz: hehe.. ya.. lazy is my middle name ;)
00:12.13chutwigdie meisten hochschulen bieten nur spanisch und französisch
00:12.23hyperChipmunkstring.match is faster than string.find for a boolean check?
00:12.26Gnarfoz_is there such a thing as a compulsory second language in US schools?
00:12.29chutwigwir hatten auch lateinisch und deutsch
00:12.30trhGnarfoz: i think i'd have been interested in chinese or japanese, if they'd had offered it at my school
00:12.37chutwigwell, yeah, but it's pretty minimal
00:12.37trhGnarfoz: but only if not graded :)
00:12.43chutwigwhen i was there you only had to do 2 years of something
00:12.50chutwigso all the morons went to spanish 1 and spanish 2 and learned fuck-all
00:12.56Gnarfoz_trh: yeah, at least some basic stuff would've been interesting for those two, I agree
00:13.03hyperChipmunknot really; some high schools say you have to have to have a semester of something
00:13.11hyperChipmunkbut nobody really cares =)
00:13.34chutwigpersonally i think language education should be emphasized more, especially from an early age, but i was also a linguistics major, so my opinion may be somewhat biased
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00:13.40hyperChipmunklol
00:13.46hyperChipmunklanguages are retarded
00:13.49Azurewrathah ok... so it's the pupils own decision what to learn? Nowadays everyone has to learn english in German Schools, afair they plan to introduce it in elementary school
00:13.54hyperChipmunkl2speaka de english
00:14.08ckknighthey all
00:14.15chutwigenglisch beherrscht die welt
00:14.18hyperChipmunkckknight: string.match is faster than string.find for a boolean check?
00:14.21NightHawkTheSanelanguages -are- retarded, we should communicate purely telepathically
00:14.43Azurewrathi'm pretty bad at learning new languages.. (read: i'm lazy).. but many languages sound quite nice
00:14.46trhNightHawkTheSane: that'd be cool.. i hope neuro science gets that far someday :)
00:14.49chutwigi am currently thinking "nighthawk is fat"
00:14.53ckknighthyperChipmunk: no, they're the same speed, just two separate paths in C. Only difference is the extra args
00:15.13hyperChipmunkk
00:15.16NightHawkTheSanetrh: actually, I really dont want to be able to read minds. Other people are scary enough as is.
00:15.23hyperChipmunkwas too lazy to check the source =p
00:15.44trhNightHawkTheSane: i don't mean reading minds, but being able to communicate through thinking.. of course only the stuff gets "sent" that i want to have sent :)
00:15.52jaeteckknight, did you check this out already? http://ace.pastey.net/18283
00:15.53chutwigby the way, as long as we're breaking down stereotypes about americans, not all our beer is shitty
00:15.57jaetethat any use to you? :)
00:16.03NightHawkTheSanetrh: yeah, thats how it starts, then you slip up and send some smarmy remark to your boss. :P
00:16.13Azurewrathchutwig: not? ;)
00:16.22chutwigAzurewrath: überhaupt nicht
00:16.24ckknightsadly, no, jaete
00:16.25NightHawkTheSanechutwig: Indeed. there's a lot of great local breweries
00:16.27trhNightHawkTheSane: thats the problem with every invention.. it can be used for good and evil
00:16.36chutwignur budweiser, coors, etc
00:16.42chutwigdie gemeinsamen biere
00:16.50ckknightwas willst du, chutwig?
00:16.52jaetei have no idea what that's about, could be a bug in blizzard's own code, in which case it would be rather nontrivial for us to fix :]
00:16.55Azurewrathmhm ja, Budweiser ist widerlich.. Spülwasser
00:17.06Ominousis dev.wowace.com down or is it myy internet?
00:17.12chutwighere's a joke
00:17.17trhchutwig: budweiser is from czech.. but they brew it in the u.s. and aren't allowed to export them into europe because of that name ;)
00:17.20jaetemight figure out one day which one of the pitbull addons causes the fatal crash, if i have the time for that
00:17.22chutwigwhat do american beer and sex in a canoe have in common
00:17.26Gnarfoz_luckily I don't drink, so I don't have anything to contribute to beer discussions :D
00:17.26chutwigthey're both fucking near water
00:17.40Azurewrathhehe, already knew that one.. but it's good
00:17.46chutwigpuns are fun
00:17.57chutwigand what sort of a german are you that doesn't drink gnarfoz
00:18.02trhGnarfoz: ah well.. sometimes a good beer with some friends is nice :)
00:18.13Gnarfoz_trh: ... "I'll have a coke then." :D
00:18.18Gnarfoz_where's that one even from
00:18.26trhGnarfoz: at least order a AFRI-cola =)
00:18.33Gnarfoz_If I can, I do :D
00:18.45chutwigminderwertiger deutscher
00:18.49Gnarfoz_nah
00:18.52chutwigdoch
00:19.19trhpretzels ftw!
00:19.22Azurewrathchutwig: if you ever visit Germany try a Potts, a Tannenzäpfle, a 1843er and some Octoberfest Bier ;)
00:19.32chutwigyou live in germany, go drink a damn beer or two
00:19.47Gnarfoz_when in Germany, do as the Germans do?
00:19.48Gnarfoz_:>
00:19.56chutwigtun wie die deutscher tun
00:20.07ckknightGnarfoz: that's not the best policy
00:20.12chutwigthe last time i was in germany we stopped in regensburg at some little wurstküche
00:20.16chutwig7 years later
00:20.19chutwigthey still haunt my dreams
00:20.20trhGnarfoz: you might like bafüßer's beer.. tastes like beer, but doesnt has that bitter "nachgeschmack" =)
00:20.24Gnarfoz_I just put alcohol on the same step as other drugs and don't touch it :> (nevermind I've got some liver stuff going on my doc tells me I should avoid alcohol^^)
00:20.34trhchutwig: positively or negatively? ;)
00:20.46Ominousim off
00:20.49chutwigtrh: in the "if i go back to germany the first thing i'm doing is going there"
00:20.58Gnarfoz_nah, I'm not even talking about the taste of it, I'm just kind of opposed to drugs/alcholol/smoking ^^
00:21.08chutwigmy girlfriend and i were looking into a trip to germany this summer but the exchange rate is horrendous
00:21.18trhchutwig: hehe.. aren't there good sausages in the usa?
00:21.25Azurewrathhehe, i like the rate.. stuff from the US is cheap to order ;)
00:21.30chutwigi don't >:(
00:21.31Gnarfoz_Azurewrath: indeed! :D
00:21.36trhchutwig: hehe.. the euro had is highest value vs. dollar since history few days ago i think ;)
00:21.55chutwigtrh: not like these
00:22.02Bam_DKis www.wowace.com slow for everyone tonight?
00:22.08chutwigit's just not really authentic
00:22.13Gnarfoz_gimme some Frankfurter wuerstchen :>
00:22.13trhchutwig: what kind of sausage was it? i mean there must be like 20 types ;)
00:22.32Gnarfoz_(hmmmm Nuernberger Rostbratwurst ftw)
00:22.38Azurewrathchutwig: if you like Metal, come here in August and visit Wacken Open Air ;)
00:22.42trhGnarfoz_: rostbratwürstchen rock!
00:22.48Gnarfoz_hmmm W:O:A
00:22.58Gnarfoz_I should so go there someday
00:22.59chutwigtrh: http://www.wurstkuchl.de/
00:23.15Azurewrath*hugs his W:O:A 2007 Ticket*
00:23.20Gnarfoz_I mean, it's like an hour and a half away from me
00:23.34chutwigAzurewrath: i don't
00:23.35trhchutwig: you can order online there :)
00:23.48Azurewrathchutwig: a pity :)
00:24.11chutwigtrh: i dunno, it's just not the same when you stick it in a can
00:24.27chutwigbesides, they probably don't or won't ship to america
00:24.48trhchutwig: i think they would :)
00:24.50Funkeh`whats is killing the server so bad? :/
00:24.57Azurewrathi can ship you a sausage if you want.. without a can.. and without cooling ;p
00:25.08chutwigtrh: customs here likes to flip a shit over really asinine things, especially food products
00:25.18chutwigi hate american customs
00:25.19Gnarfoz_oh yeah
00:25.23chutwigbunch of assholes
00:25.30Gnarfoz_I concur.
00:25.36Mikmachutwig: they're always after your anus?
00:25.37ckknightbut think of the children!
00:25.38Gnarfoz_and I've only been to the US once ever :D
00:25.43chutwigi go to england, the guy asks me a few questions and waves me through
00:25.43trhchutwig: i think thats true for every customs ;)
00:25.47chutwigi come back to america and get yelled at
00:26.03Gnarfoz_I go to england and just show my passport and can go through :D
00:26.31chutwigone of the advantages of the bureaucratic trainwreck that is the EU
00:26.39Gnarfoz_heh indeed
00:26.40trhbtw: do they police in the us really come out pointing a gun at you and yelling to be not doing fast moves and come slowly out of your car, or is that just hollywood?
00:26.51chutwigunder what circumstances?
00:26.51hyperChipmunkckknight: any reason that BulkMail:Print(string.format("%s - %s", (select(2, GetItemInfo(itemID))) or itemID, dest)) should print ": nil" after every line?
00:26.58chutwiglet's put it this way
00:26.59Azurewrathwhen i went to New York about err... 8 years ago i had to fill out a paper sheet with options like [ ] vacation, [ ] terrorism, [ ] murder the President...
00:27.03chutwigif you get pulled over, don't get out of the car
00:27.08trhstandard-control for drunken driving or anything
00:27.11chutwignah
00:27.23chutwigbut if you get pulled over and you get out of the car, they probably would pull a gun on you
00:27.24ckknighthyperChipmunk: don't know
00:27.36trhAzurewrath: good thing terrorists are so hones about their goals ;)
00:27.40hyperChipmunkyou suck
00:27.43Azurewrathhehe
00:27.50GnarfozI'd have no reason to get out of the car anyway, I guess... they want something from me, not the other way around... so why would I get out :D
00:28.08trhchutwig: ah.. but usually they don't slowly approach the car pointing a gun? ;)
00:28.16chutwigtrh: no, why would they do that
00:28.30trhchutwig: i don't know.. but they do in nearly every us production
00:28.34Azurewrathbut.. but.. they do in the movies! *crys*
00:28.38chutwigit's hollywood
00:28.44Gnarfoz(which is what the question was about in the first place :D)
00:28.50chutwigglaube niemals ihre lügen
00:28.58GnarfozTHEY lie anyway
00:29.06trhchutwig: ya... i guessed that they don't do it that extremely... but worth asking ;)
00:29.12chutwignaw
00:29.16chutwigcontrary to popular impressions
00:29.18trhyou never know what those yankee do ;)
00:29.26chutwigthis is not the unsettled frontier and people don't have shootouts here every day
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00:29.55trhoh.. to preventively answer the common question about germans: we don't all wear lederhosen ;)
00:29.59NightHawkTheSane... speak for yourself chutwig, downtown seattle is a wasteland of piracy and coyboys!
00:30.18nymbiatrh: lies, all of it.
00:30.18hyperChipmunkand starbucks
00:30.19NightHawkTheSanetrh: honestly, i'd hope not, it seems like it'd chafe a lot.
00:30.20chutwigNightHawkTheSane: downtown [insert city name] is usually a shithole
00:30.41GnarfozI don't wear hosen at all! ha.
00:30.44NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: yes, and starbucks. It's not even a joke that there's one every block here. ><
00:30.46trhNightHawkTheSane: hehe.. ya.. i'd think so ;)
00:30.49chutwigand i don't own any guns
00:30.52nymbiamy downtown's pretty nice, but it's right near the college so they get a ton of business
00:30.59hyperChipmunki know; that's why i said it, moron
00:31.33trhi wonder why only bk, mcd, subway and kfc massively expanded to germany
00:31.37Gnarfozthere was a joke about that in a simpsons episode IIRC
00:31.41trhno wendys, dunking donuts, starbucks and so on
00:31.50Gnarfoztrh: BK, Subway and KFC took their time
00:32.13Gnarfozdunkin donuts has a few places, but they don't give out franchise licenses anymore (for germany at least)
00:32.15chutwigheh
00:32.24chutwigthe only KFC i have ever eaten at, in my life
00:32.28chutwigwas in brno in the czech republic
00:32.32GnarfozBalzac Coffee is a weak imitation of Starbucks
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00:32.44chutwigand don't get me wrong, it was good
00:32.44Gnarfozand I miss Wendys from when I was in the US ^^
00:32.47chutwigbut i paid for it the next morning
00:32.50trhchutwig: btw: what does a normal hamburger cost at a US-mcdonalds? =)
00:32.50ckknightwell, you gotta understand that Starbucks doesn't sell coffee
00:32.53NightHawkTheSanethat must be pretty bad coffee, Gnarfoz, starbucks is crap
00:32.59chutwigtrh: like a quarter pounder?  i dunno
00:33.00ckknightStarbucks sells coffee-flavored beverages
00:33.16ckknightthey essentially created the Latte-crazy in America
00:33.20chutwigi haven't really been in a mcdonald's in years
00:33.24trhchutwig: ya.. i read that a 4$ burger is considered a deluxe-burger or something ;)
00:33.29Azurewrathtrh: i've seen some Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks in Berlin.. but it's not as widespread as mcd etc...
00:33.33chutwigi would guess 2.50-3 bucks
00:33.51trhAzurewrath: ya.. only in berlin.. starbucks is a bit more spread, but not much
00:33.57GnarfozNightHawkTheSane: sure is, but I rather meant the entire concept than just the drinks
00:33.59NightHawkTheSaneckknight: starbucks actually does sell coffee. It's just really bad burnt coffee.
00:34.22ckknightthe more it's cooked, the better it tastes ... until it cools down
00:34.27chutwigthings are generally cheaper here, though
00:34.29ckknightby cooking it more, you use less beans
00:34.52NightHawkTheSaneEr, no, i mean the beans they use are generally burnt during roasting.
00:35.12NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: ahh, well, that style of coffee shop is pretty common here at least. A lot of places do it better, too :P
00:35.21ckknightyea, a side effect of getting the most flavor out of it
00:35.37NightHawkTheSaneexcept it ruins the flavor. :P
00:36.24AzurewrathBeer > Coffee. So what? ;)
00:36.29chutwigi don't like coffee anyawy
00:36.32chutwigmakes my stomach go all wrong
00:36.33NightHawkTheSane... beer and coffee are rather opposing drinks. :P
00:36.34chutwigi drink tea
00:36.38trhAzurewrath: that depends on the time ;)
00:36.44chutwigteezeit!
00:36.46Roartindonhmm.. is wowace.com down for anyone else?
00:36.48Gnarfozwater > all
00:36.49Azurewrathjup.. tea is fine
00:36.51trhAzurewrath: i wouldn't drink a beer after waking up ;)
00:36.55chutwiglangweilig
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00:37.30Azurewrathtrh: depends.. when camping you can always have a beer ;)
00:37.43trhAzurewrath: hehe
00:38.23trhthe last beer i had was a root beer.. hehe
00:38.45NightHawkTheSaneooh, I could go for a root beer
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00:39.13trhya.. i hadn't one in like 4 years and finally bought some :)
00:39.17Kaeltenanyone have any idea why wowace is down?
00:39.20Kaeltenor how long it has been down?
00:39.47nymbiait's been going very slow
00:39.48GnarfozI like root beer :>
00:39.49RoartindonKaelten: I can ping it fine
00:39.55RoartindonI just can't http/svn to it
00:39.57nymbiai got home from work and hit my bookmark
00:40.00trhKaelten: looks like the services are down
00:40.08nymbiathat was 30minutes or so ago
00:40.20nymbiathe forum index finished loading just now
00:40.53Kaeltentry now nymbia
00:40.56KaeltenI just rebooted
00:41.31trhKaelten: the forums are still slow, wiki is ok, files.wowace.com index is ok
00:41.45Kaeltenhrm I wonder why the forums would be slow.
00:42.06trhKaelten: svn is ok too
00:42.24CIA-3103kaelten * r33929 10cgProfiler/ (8 files in 5 dirs):
00:42.24CIA-31cgProfiler -
00:42.24CIA-31- Lots of stuff, mob health now embedded.
00:43.02Kaeltenwtf 35 load?
00:43.23trhKaelten: sounds like some kind of dos ;)
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00:44.01Gnarfozhopefully not ms-dos
00:44.02kergothheh, ouch
00:44.04Kaeltenheh,
00:44.04Gnarfoz;D
00:44.16Kaeltenhrm its dying down now, maybe it was soom boot up lag
00:44.21nymbiaKaelten: speedy, thanks
00:44.50trhKaelten: tried 'top' to see what's eating performance? =)
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00:45.48Kaeltenits all find now.
00:45.58Kaeltenload is down to .36
00:46.35trhforums work too
00:46.42Garounyay for reboot :D
00:47.00trhsounds alot like a windows server... reboot fixes everything :P
00:47.36Kaeltenanywho  have fun
00:49.19trhhttp://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5957/gmek8.jpg
00:49.20trhlol :)
00:50.07FlickPew Pew macro attack. Love it.
00:50.35NightHawkTheSanehah, nice
00:50.44Gnarfozlol nice one
00:51.04Flickand, greetings all. First time on #wowace (heh, first time on irc in about 10 years, too)
00:51.33xlviiwelcome flick
00:51.50Flickthanks!
00:51.59CIA-3103kaelten * r33930 10cgProfiler/npcs/npcs.lua:
00:51.59CIA-31cgProfiler -
00:51.59CIA-31- removed debug code
00:54.34ilifintrh, damn
00:54.50ilifintrh, I tried to pull that with a '/hug' petition
00:54.52CIA-3103roartindon * r33931 10Aloft/Modules/ (ManaBar.lua ManaData.lua):
00:54.52CIA-31Aloft:
00:54.53CIA-31- ManaData now listens for a few more events like it should have
00:54.53CIA-31- ManaBar reorganized a bit in preparation for extra options
00:54.59ilifingot some stuck up boring person who didn't want to play
00:55.00ilifin:(
00:55.31ckknightwelcome, Flick
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00:55.44FlickThanks too.
00:59.46FlickQuestion for those awake - how can I get a login account for Trac?
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01:01.18trhFlick: doesn't the forums or wiki account work?
01:02.00FlickGood question. Forums/wiki accounts are separate, I assumed the same of trac...
01:02.28Flick... nope, neither work.
01:02.41trhFlick: ask kaelten if he comes online =)
01:03.03Flickaye aye.
01:05.25trhanyone knows if there's a way to check how much space a variable takes up in memory?
01:06.04Flickwell... variables themselves take up a fixed amount of space. I assume you mean the objects they reference?
01:06.14trhmainly tables
01:06.41trh... which objects basically are
01:06.54Flicktables and userdata objects (wow private objs).
01:07.29FlickI don't believe so. Such a method would have to walk the table tree and sum up the sizes of all the individual members... and account for the overhead of each table hash.
01:07.49trhyeah.. but that'd still be a estimate :/
01:08.13trhah well.. i'll do it with 2.1.0
01:08.22trhjust create a addon with a function referencing the table
01:08.31trhload it once, look how much space it takes = basis overhead
01:08.34trhload it again with the table
01:08.49trhcalc the difference, got my result :)
01:08.50FlickYup.
01:09.18FlickLooked at the Lua code & manual, don't think there's a way to do that on a per-object basis. Lua programs aren't supposed to care about memory. :)
01:10.05nymbiacould collectgarbage, nil it, collectgarbage again, and check the difference
01:10.12nymbiabut that requires nilling it
01:10.23Flickand also that nothing else references it.
01:10.27trhnymbia: ah.. yeah.. that could work too :)
01:10.55trhnymbia: gonna try that tomorrow.. tnx
01:11.07nymbiaFlick: yeah that too
01:13.12snirksnothing annoys me more than when drunk people think they are right
01:13.14snirkswhen they are wrong
01:13.45nymbiai dunno what you're talking about
01:13.50nymbiadrunk people are always right
01:13.52Flick*hic*
01:13.53nymbiaobviously.
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01:15.04trhsnirks: wait until they sleep and decorate them!
01:15.09trhsnirks: and then take pictures!
01:17.49TainHey I've been drinking tonight.
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01:21.59Diaohmm
01:21.59Diaostrange
01:22.04Diaopitbull isn't updating party frames properly
01:22.05Diaothe numbers are right
01:22.08Diaobut the bars don't update
01:23.16hyperChipmunksomeone on my server asked me about that too
01:23.28hyperChipmunki figured he was just a moron
01:23.32nymbialol
01:23.42Diaolol
01:23.44NightHawkTheSaneyou'd have figured that anyway, though
01:24.12nymbiaDiao: make sure all your copies of AceEvent are current
01:24.32trhor install the current Ace2 standalone ;)
01:24.55trhworks too.. at least if all your ace addons have set optionaldeps to Ace2
01:24.57Diaooh nm
01:25.00Diaoreloading my UI fixed it
01:25.03Diaoand i am using SAL
01:25.07Diaothat was weird
01:25.10snirkstrh: i was on vent the whole evening, but the guildleader kept telling me to get on vent
01:25.18nymbiathat's kinda odd
01:26.17trhsometimes the blizzard ui reacts kinda strange anyway.. i.e. sometimes i cant zoom in/out via mousewheel
01:26.24trhif i reloadui it works again
01:27.11nymbiayeah it could be events just failing to fire
01:27.21hyperChipmunkthats' still a problem
01:27.22nymbiahappened a lot for party members back near release
01:28.02trhthat party/raid stuff is pretty bugged.. the combat log messages for your party members are flagged hostile if you're in a raid
01:28.04nymbiabut then again if DogTag's getting the events then PitBull_Health should too
01:28.10trhand heal spells from raid members too
01:28.20nymbiayeah
01:28.21trhbut damage isn't from raid members
01:28.23trhvery strange
01:31.01trhlol.... programmers and old people have a lot in common..... we're both always looking for ways to control leaks and dumps.
01:31.15Diaolol
01:31.27Flickah, but what if you're both programmer and old people? Niagara dumptrucks?
01:31.41trhFlick: there are none :P
01:32.54FlickDefine 'old people' and I'll get back to ya. :)
01:32.54NightHawkTheSaneyeah everyone knows no one over thirty knows how to use a computer :P
01:32.54trhlets say older than 55
01:32.58trhNightHawkTheSane: well.. the profs at our university do know that and some are 50-55
01:33.18NightHawkTheSanetrh: that was sarcasm. ;)
01:33.31NightHawkTheSaneAnd I'm pretty sure this guy is both old and a programmer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth
01:34.29trhNightHawkTheSane: most of his work is theoretical ;)
01:34.51NightHawkTheSaneMaybe so, but I bet he can still program fairly well. :)
01:38.44hyperChipmunkevening, clad
01:38.49cladhaireevening =)
01:39.01Flickgreetings. :)
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01:40.45CIA-3103funkydude * r33932 10PitBull/filelist.wau:
01:40.45CIA-31PitBull:
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02:00.44kergothhow much is the epic flying mount skill again?
02:00.51NightHawkTheSane5kg
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02:01.56kergothhrmph
02:02.28NightHawkTheSaneand 200 for the mount
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02:03.11DiaoWait until next patch when it costs 3k
02:03.25vhaarrare you kidding?
02:03.59NightHawkTheSaneI'd seriously have to choke a bitch if that were true
02:04.07nymbiasame
02:04.32hyperChipmunklol
02:05.12chutwigif they did that i would have to imagine turning irvine into a parking lot
02:05.17NightHawkTheSaneI got my epic flyer on my second character last week, finally
02:05.35kergothi still dont have it on my first :( only up to 1700g now that i'm done iwth most of the netherstorm quests
02:05.35TainI blame Rosie O'Donnell
02:06.00Diaoit's true
02:06.04Diaoat least on test realm
02:06.07chutwigfat pile of shit
02:06.09vhaarrjesus christ
02:06.11DiaoI checked the price for 300 training
02:06.13Diaothey dropped it to 3k
02:06.21chutwigokay
02:06.23chutwigif that makes it into final
02:06.25vhaarrthat's just great
02:06.32chutwigi will murder everyone with my fists of fury
02:06.45nymbiait might just be so more people can test out the netherwing quests
02:06.56vhaarrhope so
02:06.58Diaocould be
02:06.59chutwigand there will be no end to the destruction i shall wreak
02:07.06DiaoI'm still not buying my epic flying
02:07.08Diaountil next patch
02:07.09Diaojust in case
02:07.20NightHawkTheSaneIt damn well better be just for the test realm.
02:07.58ilifinwhat
02:08.03ilifin3k gold for epic training?
02:08.06ilifinchrist
02:08.20ilifinI've almost saved up 5k on my second char >:/
02:08.45NightHawkTheSaneI can see them lowering it in like 6 monoths or so if they come out with another expansion.. but its really too early
02:09.28Shadowedoh wow
02:09.30Shadowed3k flying?
02:09.35Kinkxyea, I dunno, they would have to call it a "bug fix" to change it this early
02:10.10ilifinI think it's to stop the sheer amount of people buying from goldsellers
02:10.10ShadowedIt's been about 4 months since TBC came out =p
02:10.10Shadowed3k vs 5k wont chance much
02:10.10ilifinI bet they had atleast a 200% increase in buyers
02:10.11ilifinif not even more
02:10.22NightHawkTheSaneShadowed: yeah and how long was it before epic land mounts dropped from 1k to 600?
02:10.23Kinkx5k is not a lot
02:10.25ilifinand the goldspam gets worse every day
02:10.27ShadowedFor the new player, they're still going to spend around 1,600g in mounts alone so they'd basically be broke
02:10.31ShadowedNightHawkTheSane: Damned if i know
02:10.33ilifinI get 100+ whispers a day
02:10.40nymbiaon the pvp test realm right this instant, 300 flying is 5000g.  for alliance, anyway.
02:10.45ilifinand there's a constant spam of trade and guild recruit by atleast 3 bots
02:11.03Diaomm
02:11.04ShadowedWell, the people who could farm 5k could farm 3k, so I doubt it'll change much
02:11.12DiaoGuess they changed it back after letting people test netherwing or something
02:11.23DiaoWho knows
02:11.30ShadowedWhy would they reduce it by 2k just for testing, that makes no sense =p
02:11.37NightHawkTheSaneShadowed: it would for the people who cant be bothered to farm an extra 2k though
02:11.42Diaono clue
02:11.43Diaolol
02:12.02KinkxSeems to be 5k still, nymbia just checked ;p
02:12.20kenlyricit took me much longer to save gold for my epic land mount than it did for my epic flying mount.
02:12.30ShadowedWell in that case they probably don't care about mounts either way so they wouldn't buy gold
02:12.36kenlyricand that was only because the dropped the epic gorund mount right at the time i was saving up for one.
02:13.29ShadowedIt could be that it's going to be 3k, but the change didn't go out until next server reboot, and PvE crashed
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02:14.07chutwigyou could get a lot of money towards the mount just from quests
02:14.15chutwigif you saved a lot of quests for when you hit 70
02:14.22ShadowedNot really!
02:14.45chutwigi made a couple of thousand just from doing quests at 70
02:15.07ShadowedI'm doing 1 -> 70 and probably will make around 2,000g in the end, but I had to spend 1k for flying and 500 for epic land
02:15.34NightHawkTheSaneI dunno. On my warrior, I made about 1.5k from 60->70, and the rest was pretty easy from a small amount of farming and questing. But on my shaman it was a lot harder for some reason. *shrug*
02:15.49nymbiasave blade's edge, netherstorm, and shadowmoon for 70 and you'll make a TON of money
02:15.50chutwigpoop shield
02:16.09Shadowedyeah nymbia
02:16.11Shadowedgood luck with that
02:16.18NightHawkTheSaneShadowed: psh, you can afford your land mount almost entirely pre-60 if you know what you're doing.
02:16.19nymbiahuh?
02:16.22chutwigyou can avoid doing either SMV or netherstorm
02:16.23chutwigbut not both
02:16.34chutwignot unless you do all your levelling on rested
02:16.40ShadowedGoal was to powerlevel to 70, not spend time worrying about money
02:16.40NightHawkTheSane... no, I hit 70 on my shammy not even doing ANY quests in either zone.
02:16.48kenlyricat the very least, even with minimal instancing, you should be 70 shortly after going into netherstorm, pluse all of shadowmoon.
02:16.54ShadowedYou were either doing instances, or grinding
02:16.56kenlyrictwo gathering professions doesn't hurt, either :)
02:17.01Shadowedbut theres no way you could have BEM, NS and SMV
02:17.06DiaoYeah
02:17.09DiaoOnly way is to pure grind
02:17.11DiaoI did it on my new warrior
02:17.12chutwigif i need money now i just go farm airs
02:17.17NightHawkTheSanewell, I didnt have BEM, but I had both NS/SMV undone
02:17.19Diaoinstance/grind only from 61-70
02:17.22Diaoafter doing ONLY hellfire quests
02:17.23KinkxMoney is easy to get at lvl 70, just farm and sell stuff, primals, herbs, minerals, etc.
02:17.27DiaoI skipped everything else
02:17.32nymbiaa friend of mine just got hit alt to 70 halfway through nagrand, with just rested for the first 1.5 levels
02:17.40ShadowedYeah i'm just waiting for 2.1 to hit anyway, and going to burn through herbs and sell potions
02:18.00ShadowedHe was probably grinding areas or doing instances, but it's impossible to hit 70 off Nagrand, HFP, ZAngar and Terokkar.
02:18.00kenlyricI'd sell them now :)
02:18.14KinkxSell a primal might each day
02:18.17ShadowedHerbs are rather hard to sell, potions aren't
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02:24.06CIA-3103hyperactiveChipmunk * r33933 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua BulkMail.toc CHANGELOG):
02:24.06CIA-31BulkMail: 0.8.0
02:24.06CIA-31- Code clean-up, optimizations too numerous to count
02:24.21hyperChipmunk>7D
02:24.25hyperChipmunk>8D
02:24.45hyperChipmunkthat was long overdue =P
02:25.13kergothShadowed: hmm, pots sell better than the herbs?
02:25.34ShadowedDepends on your server, but usually
02:26.23KinkxHerbs easier to sell on my server, but prices have dropped quite a lot now with the elixir/flask changes that are coming
02:26.26ShadowedMore herbalists with another profession then alchemy so more demand for potions
02:26.48ShadowedI
02:26.54ShadowedI'm selling potions not elixirs mainly =p
02:27.19KinkxSuper Mana potions sell well, rest not so much
02:27.30ShadowedSuper mana potions are going to drop anyway
02:28.06KinkxYea, have 600 dreaming glory that I have saved :)
02:28.32ShadowedHaven't gotten *that* much yet =p
02:32.10kenlyricmeh at super mana
02:32.20kenlyricI buy major mana.
02:32.37kenlyricon my server, a stack of major mana is 4g cheaper than unstable mana. That's *funny*
02:34.20NightHawkTheSaneo_0
02:35.30ShadowedIs Ragveil stupidly expensive on your server or something
02:36.04kenlyricno.
02:36.07kenlyricalchemists are idiots
02:36.15Shadowedwell
02:36.29kenlyricor, chinese gold farmers without TBC are idiots
02:36.29Shadowedmmm
02:37.32kenlyricI actually haven't discovered if it's cheaper than the mats for unstable/super mana, but when I'm in a hurry it's pretty cheap.
02:37.37kenlyric4g a stack.
02:37.56vhaarrthat's a bargain
02:38.03vhaarrthe vials alone cost ~3g
02:38.07kenlyricunstable mana are 7-8g.
02:38.16kenlyricno, these are for major man pots.
02:38.19vhaarrah
02:38.20kenlyric*mana
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02:38.30kenlyricsuper mana pots are 15g a stack.
02:38.40Shadowed18g-20g for us
02:39.02kenlyricit's just crazy that major mana are 1/2 the price of unstable mana... considering they do the EXACT same thing.
02:39.31NightHawkTheSaneI'd think unstable would be cheaper, the mats are pretty easy, i think
02:40.22vhaarryes, 2x ragveil and 1x felweed
02:40.35vhaarrbut remember that the vials are expensive
02:41.20NightHawkTheSanetrue
02:41.53NightHawkTheSanei'd like to know what they were thinking with 3g for 5. ><
02:42.10vhaarrAnyone online on live that updates from SVN and can get a raidgroup of 2 people to test a change for me once I commit?
02:42.33kenlyricwell, when they were for flasks that made sense...
02:42.48vhaarrkenlyric: They were never used for the flasks.
02:42.52vhaarrexcept TBC flasks
02:42.56kenlyricwhat were they there for?
02:43.10vhaarrnothing
02:43.12NightHawkTheSanei think a few raid drop recipes used them
02:43.18vhaarrnope
02:43.20NightHawkTheSanelike the major rejuv or something?
02:43.23vhaarrno
02:43.31vhaarrerr yes
02:43.33NightHawkTheSane:P
02:43.43vhaarrthat one used it
02:43.47vhaarrbut nothing else, afaik
02:43.52nymbiaraid drop? haha.  discovered!
02:44.03vhaarrlol
02:44.07kenlyrichttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=25130
02:44.13vhaarrI bought it for 200g like years ago
02:44.23kenlyricand brilliant wizard oil
02:44.29vhaarrpft that's not alchemy stuff :P
02:44.40vhaarrLF Tester for Roster-2.1 commit, PST
02:44.54kenlyricI didn't say "what where they used for in alchemy" :)
02:46.05vhaarrhyperChipmunk: OpenAllBags(1) actually forces them *open*.
02:46.12vhaarrhyperChipmunk: or anything non-nil
02:46.15NightHawkTheSaneugh. hate. pugs. seriously some days im not sure why I log in at all.
02:46.28hyperChipmunki know; why do you mention it
02:46.42vhaarrbecause you use 2x OpenAllBags() in BM
02:47.06hyperChipmunkyea, because i don't want to step on people's addons
02:47.23hyperChipmunkthat way it tries to return it to whatever the user had before
02:48.02vhaarrah, so you just show the bags in order to update the container frames
02:48.06hyperChipmunkright
02:48.34hyperChipmunkthey don't show up in enumerateframes unless they've been 'seen' by the client
02:48.58vhaarrthey're probably not created until the first show or something
02:49.03hyperChipmunkyea
02:49.16hyperChipmunkat least, they weren't back when i originally wrote it
02:49.23hyperChipmunki haven't actually looked to see that recently
02:49.29vhaarrmeh
02:49.41vhaarrif it works, it works
02:49.44hyperChipmunkyea
02:49.49hyperChipmunkthat's what i figure =p
02:50.11hyperChipmunkthe bugs that it creates without it are subtle and annoying
02:50.22hyperChipmunki'd rather just be sure
02:50.28vhaarrindeed
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02:54.13CIA-3103rabbit * r33934 10RosterLib/Roster-2.1/Roster-2.1.lua: .Roster-2.1: Support the new role and ML unit tags in 2.1.
03:00.46vhaarrdammit it broke in 2.0
03:02.53hyperChipmunkretard
03:03.02vhaarrclearly
03:03.20CIA-3103hyperactiveChipmunk * r33935 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua:
03:03.21CIA-31BulkMail:
03:03.21CIA-31- Lots of yummy commenting
03:05.56vhaarror maybe not
03:06.12vhaarrjust the person testing it that copy/pasted it from http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/RosterLib/Roster-2.1/Roster-2.1.lua
03:06.23vhaarr"$Revision$" is not a number
03:06.40CIA-3103hyperactiveChipmunk * r33936 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua:
03:06.40CIA-31BulkMail:
03:06.40CIA-31- more yummy commenting
03:07.39hyperChipmunk^--see how i'm pretending to be a real programmer?
03:07.58nymbiahaha
03:08.00NightHawkTheSaneit's "pretending" because real programmers don't actually comment. ;)
03:08.03vhaarrreal programmers don't comment, man, "software engineers" do
03:08.12NightHawkTheSanehahah
03:08.13nymbiathe only thing i've really bothered to comment is PT3
03:08.31nymbiabut i dont know if anyone's looked at that code anyway
03:08.44NightHawkTheSaneI did, once, last year.
03:08.57nymbiaheh
03:09.08vhaarrsomeone has, but they closed it pretty fast again
03:09.34nymbialol
03:09.35hyperChipmunkthere's still a variable in there with an acronym that i haven't a clue to what it stands fo
03:09.49hyperChipmunkr
03:10.10hyperChipmunkwtf is pmsqDestination?
03:10.13hyperChipmunki have no idea
03:10.21nymbiarofl
03:10.27hyperChipmunksomething-mail-send-queue?
03:10.36vhaarrpre-message-queue-destination
03:10.42hyperChipmunkpending?
03:10.51hyperChipmunkit made sense when i wrote it!
03:11.01vhaarrit's the destination that was in the send to box before you start autosending stuff with bulkmail
03:11.11vhaarrright?
03:11.18hyperChipmunkprevious, then, maybe
03:11.21hyperChipmunkno
03:11.25vhaarrhrm
03:11.27hyperChipmunkthat doesn't make sense with the rest of it
03:11.34hyperChipmunkdude, i have no idea
03:11.38vhaarrlol
03:11.47kenlyricI'm confused... why do the blood elves want to fight kael'thas? isn't he their leader?
03:11.57hyperChipmunkkenlyric: see the history of shattrath
03:12.17NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: didn't you take the tour?! yeesh!
03:12.21hyperChipmunki'll actually look at the logic of it later tonight or tomorrow; i was just optimizing
03:12.33kenlyricI took the tour, but that was months ago.
03:12.54NightHawkTheSaneonly a 3mo. buffer in your head, eh? should get that upgraded ;)
03:13.50kenlyric24 hours, tops
03:14.08hyperChipmunkbesides, i don't think "allying with a demon lord acting in concert with the burning legion" was what the blood elves had in mind when they elected him =x
03:14.37NightHawkTheSanewell, im sure some of them -did- have that in mind. just not the Scryer ones ;)
03:14.43kenlyricI must have missed that part.
03:15.14NightHawkTheSaneyeah, the scryers are more or less belfs who realized that kael'thas was a little... what's the word.. viciously evil?
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03:35.47kenlyricnecrosis is the warlock mod that lets me limit my soul shards?
03:35.54ckknighthey a ll
03:35.58ckknightall*
03:36.09kenlyricyo.
03:36.28kenlyricJust want you to know, I have no complaints, bug reports, or feature requests for pitbull.
03:36.32hyperChipmunkckknight: pitbull not updating party hp bars apparently
03:36.39hyperChipmunkkenlyric: you're the only one =)
03:36.39ckknightoh?
03:36.46ckknightin what situation?
03:37.01hyperChipmunkraid, at least
03:37.06hyperChipmunkraid frames and party frames
03:37.07kenlyricI figured for once the first thing you saw in this chan shouldn't be a problem.. and looks like I barely made it :)
03:37.34hyperChipmunki didn't get more info, cuz the guy turned off pitbull and put on ct frames
03:38.11hyperChipmunkapparently, being a healer, those other bars need to be accurate or something
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03:39.06chutwighyperChipmunk: i had that problem a few days ago but it seems to be resolved now
03:39.08ckknighthyperChipmunk: I'm a healer, I've main-healed with PitBull fine
03:39.19chutwigit was spitting out a lot of errors regarding Health.lua
03:39.25ckknighthyperChipmunk: check if AceEvent is updated, check if any errors arose
03:39.45hyperChipmunki asked about errors, he said none
03:40.08ckknightwhoever this person is is likely not updated fully
03:40.12hyperChipmunkasking if aceevent is updated would be pretty much impossible; he wouldn't know
03:40.45ckknightthat's the likely culprit, imho, but it could be a PitBull bug which I believe was resolved...
03:41.04hyperChipmunkwell, he just downloaded it from files.wowace.com today
03:41.18hyperChipmunkthere was another guy in here that had the problem personally though
03:41.22hyperChipmunkDiao?
03:41.28hyperChipmunkbut he said reload fixed it
03:41.31hyperChipmunkiirc
03:42.16hyperChipmunkfiles.wowace.com zips ought to have the latest aceevent in them, no?
03:42.48ckknightI believe so
03:43.11hyperChipmunki don't have any friends, so i can't join a party and see for myself =P
03:43.31hyperChipmunki'll check with my buddy when he comes online
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03:45.10ckknightk
03:45.38Funkeh`updating script is out of commision it seems, fyi
03:51.29deltronhttp://shesalwayscallingme.ytmnd.com/
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03:52.58CIA-31BigWigs: Karazhan/Terestian:
03:52.58CIA-31- enrage cleanups
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04:00.44CIA-31BigWigs: Karazhan/Netherspite:
04:00.44CIA-31- enrage cleanups
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04:04.39hyperChipmunkok yea, my party frame didn't even show up
04:07.44ckknightany errors?
04:07.59CIA-3103ckknight * r33940 10PitBull/ (18 files in 18 dirs): PitBull - make the early breakout check more intelligent and generic
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04:10.45SpetsdodAnyone able to answer a few questions?
04:10.54Spetsdodre: chat hooking
04:11.18ckknightSpetsdod: blah
04:11.26Spetsdod=(
04:12.31SpetsdodI'm hooking ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler and checking against "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER" but it's blocking EVERYTHING including guild chat, says, system messages, etc.
04:13.01ckknightbecause you're not returning the hook correctly
04:13.09nymbiareturn stuff!
04:13.10ckknightpastey what you have
04:13.46Funkeh`nymbia: fix blood guard porung kk
04:14.04Spetsdodit's on another pc, but I'll see what I can do.
04:14.16ckknightace.pastey.net
04:14.27Spetsdod?
04:14.52Spetsdodoh sweet
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04:20.27Spetsdodokay, so ace.pastey.net/18423
04:20.42Spetsdodthere is still a lot of verbosity in the mod, cause I want to know when it gets to a certain step or something
04:20.53vhaarryou need to return at the end of your hook handler
04:21.04vhaarrjust like ckk said, and like the code I linked you the other day demonstrated
04:21.33hyperChipmunkckknight: no errors
04:21.46vhaarrSpetsdod: put |return chatmod.hooks["ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler"](event)| at the end
04:21.51SpetsdodI have been looking at your code, and without understanding the API, and not having any documentation in the code, it's pretty hard to read it and figure out how to make it work.
04:21.52ckknighthyperChipmunk: any idea on how I'd reproduce?
04:21.58hyperChipmunkno idea
04:22.05hyperChipmunki was kiting hemathion, invited my g/f
04:22.11Spetsdodvhaarr: at the end like after everything else?
04:22.18ckknighthyperChipmunk: oh, it doesn't show up in combat
04:22.20vhaarrSpetsdod: yes
04:22.24hyperChipmunki didn't realize her frame didn't show up until a few minutes later, when she was about to switch chars
04:22.25ckknightshould show up right after, though
04:22.27hyperChipmunkah
04:22.47vhaarrSpetsdod: you just have to understand hooking in general - you are injecting yourself in the execution path, so if you don't continue it by calling the original handler, then the thing that made the call initially will not get anything back.
04:22.48hyperChipmunkyea, i was still kiting =P
04:22.56hyperChipmunkthat explains it then
04:23.16vhaarrSpetsdod: which is the whole deal here, you *want* it to not return anything if it's a whisper you want to hide, right
04:23.25vhaarrSpetsdod: but other than that, you always continue the chain
04:23.27Spetsdodthanks.  I'm working on learning that.  I'm new to hooking for sure.  yes, that is right.
04:24.04SpetsdodIf I receive a whisper, I want to check a few things, then if it doesn't match an okay condition, drop it.  otherwise keep going.
04:24.06vhaarrSpetsdod: If you look at the code I linked you, it does |return orig(event, ...)| at the end.
04:24.29vhaarrSpetsdod: right, and "drop it" actually means "return nil", or simply "return", which implies nil.
04:24.41SpetsdodI saw that, but I didn't understand the syntax and I couldn't find anything on it
04:24.58vhaarr'orig' is just the variable name where I stored the original handler
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04:26.32Spetsdodadding the return at the end throws an error.  "attempt to call field 'ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler' (a nil value)"
04:26.40ckknightpastey
04:26.45xyuI like to use Grid for all my unitframe needs.  however the layouts are for 10man only :(   is there any 3 man layout or 5man layout ;;  
04:26.58xyuif i go to "none" it just removes the box completely in PvP
04:27.05xyucan't have that ><
04:27.54CIA-3103ckknight * r33941 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull-Portrait - show 3D portraits in WoW 2.1 again
04:29.11kergothis something up with littlewigs on murmur?
04:29.11Spetsdodhrm, moved the return inside the function and now it works
04:29.17kergothit said i was the bomb, then i didnt explode, someone else did.
04:29.20kergothseems to be off
04:29.35KinkxAnyone want to take a look at the first Ace2 addon that I've made? It's working, but just curious if I've made any mistakes.. it's just a simple target of target addon
04:29.43Kinkxhttp://ace.pastey.net/18427-3tmi
04:29.46hyperChipmunkdude, that's whack, kerg; we all know you is totally da bomb, yo
04:29.47KinkxIf you want to take a look :)
04:29.52kergothlol
04:30.25Spetsdodpastey is pretty damn cool.  someone here write that?
04:30.49deltronpastey is totally awesome
04:31.15SpetsdodI've never seen it before, but major kudos to whoever came up with it.
04:31.18NightHawkTheSanepastey is like a two hour code job fancied up a bit. it is handy though :D
04:31.54vhaarrSpetsdod: There are literally hundreds of those sites around.
04:32.00vhaarrIf not thousands.
04:32.03kergothi like pastey though, its simple
04:32.09vhaarrthey're all simple :P
04:32.16vhaarrbut yeah, pastey is nice
04:32.43vhaarrI guess the most famous one is pastebin.com, though.
04:33.45Funkeh`http://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=39221&mirror=3
04:33.49Funkeh`awesome
04:34.02deltronyeeuh paintball in the morning, nite all
04:35.54SpetsdodCan SendChatMessage be done silently?
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04:39.11nymbiadepends what you mean by 'silently'
04:40.20SpetsdodI'm using it to send a message back to a sender that doesn't meet my filter requirements, but it is showing on my screen what was sent.  I just want it to notify the sender, and not bother me.
04:40.47ckknightyou can
04:40.59ckknightyou gotta make sure CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM doesn't do a message
04:41.09Spetsdodokay
04:41.17Aenslaedckknight: found a bug with pitbull. If you shapeshift while in combat, the health bar no longer updates. It stays at full
04:41.30ckknightAenslaed: need to level my druid...
04:41.34Aenslaedhealth text is correct
04:41.40deltronlol ckknight
04:41.45ckknightAenslaed: any errors?
04:42.01nymbiackknight: people have been reporting that with party hp bars as well
04:42.04Aenslaedhealth bar stays at full, health text is correct
04:42.16ckknightAenslaed: I asked you if you had any errors
04:42.32Aenslaedno
04:42.55ckknightAenslaed: want to disable buggrabber and bugsack and see if you can reproduce? possible something's getting lost
04:43.13Aenslaedactually, yes, just noticed the countdown on buggrabber
04:43.18Aenslaedi'm in ab right now, sec
04:44.41Aenslaeda bunch of local db errors in health.lua.
04:44.52Spetsdodokay, so I thought I understood how to prevent it from printing a message, but I was wrong.  In my evaluate block, I have "  SendChatMessage("I don't know you", "WHISPER", nil, player)  do I need to move that to a separate function?
04:44.56Aenslaedpitbull_health/health.lua:103: attempt to index local 'db' (a nil value)
04:46.49vhaarrSpetsdod: but, err, isn't your mod just a copy of my ShutUp?
04:46.59vhaarrseems like you could just use that instead
04:47.39Aenslaedckknight: also has the same error for mana.lua. 76
04:48.07Aenslaedpitbull_aura\aura.lua:508: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
04:48.10SpetsdodWell, it does most of the same stuff, but it's also not done, and I'm trying to learn, and well, I wrote it.  And who's to say you didn't copy ShutUp from me? *wink*
04:48.19Aenslaedand barfader
04:48.19vhaarrI am.
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04:50.30CIA-3103ckknight * r33942 10PitBull/Health/Health.lua: PitBull-Health - add thingy to report the situation to me
04:50.37ckknightAenslaed: update and run
04:51.06Funkeh`ckknight: the updater scipt is down
04:51.13Funkeh`script*
04:51.18ckknightsvn
04:51.20ckknightI dunno
04:53.37Aenslaedwas it only health.lua that got changed?
04:55.14SpetsdodThis is boggling.  If SendChatMessage is in a conditional block by CHAT_MSG_WHISPER and the return without printing anything is in a subsequent conditional block, how does the block ever get evaluated? 8)
04:55.31nymbiahuh?
04:55.34CIA-3103ckknight * r33943 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.toc: PitBull_BarFader - add PitBull_Health, PitBull_Mana optional dep
04:55.37Spetsdodit works, but I don't understand why.
04:55.42vhaarrI would guess SendChatMessage is async.
04:55.48CIA-3103ckknight * r33944 10PitBull_Banzai/PitBull_Banzai.toc: PitBull_Banzai - added PitBull_Health optional dep
04:55.49nymbiait goes to the server
04:56.18CIA-3103ckknight * r33945 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.toc: PitBull_EstimatedHeals - added PitBull_Health optional dep
04:56.28vhaarrYour code continues to execute and then gets run a second time when you get the server response.
04:57.09Spetsdodso CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM isn't specifically my message to another player, it is the server responding that I have sent a message and telling me what I said.
04:57.29Spetsdodokay that clicks.
04:57.53nymbiamost events are server initiated
04:58.01nymbiaor they wouldnt be events, just calls
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05:19.05CIA-31MorgDKP:
05:19.05CIA-31- test commit
05:21.29CIA-3103ckknight * r33949 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: .AceModuleCore-2.0 - can now nest calls to :IterateModules()
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05:37.00NightHawkTheSanenymbia: ping
05:38.47nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: sup
05:39.11NightHawkTheSanenymbia: is there a way to make manufac -not- show recipes in the 'can make section' when i'm only missing vendor stuff?
05:39.23nymbiauhhh
05:39.25nymbiamaybe.
05:40.26NightHawkTheSanethat's a "Hmm, you know, I never considered that it can't do that" maybe, isn't it. :P
05:40.55nymbianaw that's actually how it worked at first
05:41.32NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i know. I just noticed it changed just now. :)
05:41.53nymbiaheh
05:47.30CIA-3103kemayo * r33951 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Daily tag == y.
05:47.37KemayoBetter than 't', anyway.
05:47.51Arrowmasterbut y
05:47.54Arrowmasterhaha
05:48.07NightHawkTheSane~whaleslap Arrowmaster
05:48.09purlACTION beats Arrowmaster upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
05:48.19KemayoIma cut you, betch.
05:50.00KarlThePaganhmm i'm trying to fix Chronometer to monitor Shadowfiend
05:50.30KarlThePaganbut I'm not sure how to prevent it from acting as a targeted spell (thus going away if my current target dies)
05:50.52art3mismonitor its cool down or its life?
05:51.12KarlThePagancooldown
05:51.18KarlThePaganrather just the duration of the spell
05:51.26KarlThePagansimilarly to PWS or SWP
05:52.05KarlThePagan3rd parameter of Chronometer:AddTimer is "targeted" but it doesn't seem to be respected
05:52.35art3miswell
05:52.41art3misits a bit more complicated than that
05:52.54art3miscuz the fiends can take damage
05:53.01art3misand go away long before the time expires
05:53.21art3misif an aoe hits or it takes aggro that is
05:53.41art3misso you'd almost have to /focus on it
05:53.59art3misfor its life to test the timer
05:54.12KarlThePaganI don't need it to be perfect ;)
05:54.23art3misbut if yer not concerned with that just make a bar count down from 15 ;P
05:54.27KarlThePaganyea
05:54.48art3misand macro its execution  with the spell being cast ;P
05:54.50KarlThePaganlooking into things that call StartTimer - so I can force it to respect the "targeted" option for the bar
05:54.52art3misand replace it ;P
05:55.08art3misthat would prolly be the easiest way
05:57.27kergothcandydice seems better doen than chronometer, just needs more modules for classes other than rogues
05:57.27kergothheh
05:57.48CIA-3103rabbit * r33952 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0: Fix printUsage for type=text+validate=table and type=range, and possibly type=text with multiToggle.
05:58.37Arrowmasteri think trying to modifiy chronometer for 2.1 is also going to end up being worse than either a completely new mod or modifing a less complex mod
05:58.53KarlThePaganaw
05:58.54vhaarrI've started, it's not pretty.
05:59.04KarlThePaganI suppose I'll have to adapt
05:59.06Arrowmasterlol vhaarr i just noticed that bug earlyer
05:59.08kergothshould just start something new
05:59.15vhaarrArrowmaster: well it should be working now :)
05:59.21vhaarrkergoth: indeed
05:59.28vhaarrand just ninja all the data from chronometer
05:59.40vhaarrI've tried to clean up the chronometer code, but ...
05:59.41Arrowmasterwhy ninja data when the 2.1 api provides it
06:01.07CIA-3103funkydude * r33953 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: sync rebirth, remove wing buffet code
06:01.45Funkeh`in 2.1 you won't need any libraries of hot/dot times
06:01.49Funkeh`^^
06:02.26Arrowmasterone thing im not sure if any librarys already do but would be nice for a debuff bars mod would be figuring out a unitid for when you cast spells instead of just having the unit name from the UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT event
06:02.32KarlThePaganwell you will for shadowfiend ;)
06:02.49Arrowmastershadowfiend isnt a debuff
06:02.50KarlThePaganit's not a buff on you or a debuff on your target
06:03.31KarlThePaganheh, and there needs to be a special case for the 2pc Incarnate Regalia bonus
06:03.47Arrowmasterwhats that bonus?
06:03.52Funkeh`what does that do
06:04.26KarlThePagan3 seconds longer
06:04.33KarlThePaganyour fiend stays up for 18 sec not 15
06:04.40KarlThePaganand has a tiny bit more hp
06:04.47Funkeh`ZOMG
06:04.52KarlThePaganvery hot
06:04.54Funkeh`SPECIAL CASE11!
06:05.08KarlThePaganheh
06:05.34Funkeh`it won't happen unless they suddenly start scannign your gear, which won't happen
06:05.44Wobinoh man BONUS
06:05.52KarlThePaganyea i noticed chronometer doesn't do that... only scans talents
06:05.57KarlThePagan:P
06:06.27KarlThePaganbut i fixed my problem
06:06.58Arrowmasterblizzard should just fucking put in unique buff/debuff identifiers and a way to check for the hidden buffs from set bonuses
06:07.27Funkeh`lol im shocked they added hot/dot timers
06:07.34Funkeh`what im not shocked at is how shit the system is
06:07.44Arrowmasterwould actually be interesting to see all the hidden buffs
06:07.50Funkeh`infact its completely shit without a mod like omnicc enabled
06:07.51KarlThePaganvery nice
06:08.12Funkeh`the 'clock' cooldown is stupid, the default ui should do numeral cooldown
06:08.13Arrowmasteri actually hate the cooldown spinners on the buff/debuffs
06:08.20KarlThePaganheh
06:08.39Arrowmasteri hope theres a way to remove just the cooldown spinner from buffs/debuffs but not actionbars
06:09.09Funkeh`with oomnicc enabled, the number appeared on front of teh debuff and the cooldown animation wasn't really noticable
06:09.33Arrowmasteryeah but then you cant really see the debuff icon and know which is which
06:09.45Funkeh`i suppose you can filter own debuffs
06:09.53Funkeh`then increase the scale fo them or something
06:10.01Arrowmasteri just want good candybars for debuffs
06:10.33Funkeh`mm
06:12.02Funkeh`ooo
06:12.23Arrowmasteri really wish the combat log event system was different and during every one of the combat CHAT_MSG_* events there were special unitids that refered to the units being referenced in the msg
06:12.26Funkeh`Arrowmaster: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4836-OmniCC.html 3rd post
06:13.32kergothso in 2.1 can you tell the difference between the deadly poison stack applied by you and the one applied by someone else?
06:13.45hyperChipmunkought to
06:13.46Funkeh`yes
06:13.50Arrowmastermeh id rather just have a unitframe addon just not include the cooldown spinners on debuffs
06:13.51Funkeh`it only times your debuffs
06:13.51kergothnice
06:13.54Funkeh`not others
06:13.58kergoth<3
06:14.28Arrowmasterrogues bitch, warlocks finally get a way to tell there own debuffs from other warlocks <3
06:14.34CIA-3103karlthepagan * r33954 10Chronometer/ (Core/Chronometer.lua Data/Priest.lua):
06:14.34CIA-31Chronometer:
06:14.34CIA-31- added shadowfiend timer
06:14.34CIA-31- targeted == 0 argument in AddTimer will now set the spell target = "none"
06:14.53Funkeh`KarlThePagan: zomg
06:15.03KarlThePagan1st commit in ... forever
06:15.05KarlThePagan:P
06:15.11Funkeh`:p
06:15.23KarlThePaganthat basically means... targeted does *something* now
06:15.26KarlThePagan;)
06:16.03KarlThePagantested & working for shadow word pain vs shadowfiend
06:16.06KarlThePagangoodnight
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06:16.47Funkeh`nn
06:17.29kergothgoddamnit, dewdrop still closes while i'm typing in a range text box
06:17.57KarlThePaganQQ primal might mutes never proc for me
06:18.14Funkeh`i get that sometimes kergoth
06:18.26Funkeh`it won't disapear if you keep your mouse over the original menu
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06:28.25Funkeh`later
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06:33.29nymbiaaww no more samwise? :(
06:33.39nymbialol
06:33.49CIA-3103arrowmaster * r33956 10GoldenRun/: GoldenRun: creating directory
06:35.34NightHawkTheSaneaww...
06:37.52AntiarcAny Rails users here?
06:37.58Antiarc#rubyonrails is being no help >:(
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07:00.31VII-Beheritfound a typo in AceTab-2.0.lua :D
07:00.32VII-BeheritDocumentation: http://www..wowace.com/index.php/AceTab-2.0
07:00.37VII-Beherit1 dot too much :P
07:06.14CIA-3103roartindon * r33958 10Aloft/Modules/ManaBar.lua:
07:06.14CIA-31Aloft
07:06.14CIA-31- ManaBar: fixed position updates not applying immediately
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07:11.38CIA-3103arrowmaster * r33959 10GoldenRun/ (GoldenRun.lua GoldenRun.toc Libs/):
07:11.38CIA-31GoldenRun:
07:11.38CIA-31-Inital import
07:11.38CIA-31-Remake of Rowne's GoldenRun addon that died in 1.10
07:11.38CIA-31-Has two ways of enabling AutoRun, double tapping forward and double left clicking while holding the right mouse button down
07:11.39CIA-31-Double tapping forward is disabled by default because it doesn't work yet, so don't enable it
07:11.43CIA-31-This is probably buggy and very unclean right now so consider it extremely early alpha quality
07:12.39Arrowmasterim probably going to get yelled at for some of the hooking in that
07:13.36nymbiaArrowmaster: YOUR HOOKS ARE BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD
07:13.55Arrowmasteryou havent even looked at them yet i bet
07:14.09nymbiaobviously ;)
07:15.03Loki|muhckknight: I loved the head! :( What is showed instead now?
07:15.11ckknightblank
07:18.28FISKER_Qnymbia !
07:18.42FISKER_QPorung keeps evading the dataminer :(
07:18.48FISKER_Qi think he used hax
07:20.34CIA-3103nymbia * r33960 10PitBull/Spark/ (PitBull_Spark.toc Spark.lua): (log message trimmed)
07:20.34CIA-31PitBull_Spark:
07:20.34CIA-31- Update toc
07:20.34CIA-31- Shred UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_* handlers -- seems the 5 seconds is started when the channel is started rather than finished. yay code simplification!
07:20.34CIA-31- NOTE: the current state of showing the timer bar for every spellcast with
07:20.36CIA-31probably remain, for two reasons: 1) Checking mana introduces additional
07:20.40CIA-31overhead that I don't want and 2) Some spellcasts that invoke the 5 second rule
07:20.53nymbiaFISKER_Q: its your fault
07:21.05ckknightnymbia: I got a fix, hang on
07:21.14ckknightwell, maybe
07:22.24nymbia?
07:23.13ckknightwell, I have a bugfix
07:23.15ckknightthat annoyed me
07:23.26nymbiaoh, sure
07:23.58CIA-3103ckknight * r33961 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: PitBull-Spark - now check UNIT_MANA to see if UnitMana('player') == UnitManaMax('player'), if true, stop the ticker.
07:24.21ckknightannoyed me when opening boxes
07:24.35nymbiaoh lol
07:27.06FISKER_QWouldn't it be smarter to check if the spell casted took any mana or energy to cast?
07:27.11FISKER_QOr is it the same thing?
07:28.33ckknightnope
07:28.37_icetraindunno if you fixed it that last day but the spark resets everytime an autoshot is fired while playing my hunter :)
07:28.40ckknightsince it completes before mana changes
07:29.04nymbiawell the idea would be to defer starting it til a mana change
07:29.21nymbiathen check if the next mana change is negative
07:29.47nymbiameh..  if it's starting on autoshots, i probably should
07:34.32ckknightit also does it on using items and such
07:34.44nymbiayup
07:34.52hyperChipmunkyea, it's really useless for me
07:34.59hyperChipmunkevery time i shoot it goes
07:35.06ckknightI think doing the UNIT_MANA check would be best
07:36.06hyperChipmunkthere was one other thing that it went on that was really annoying, too, besides items
07:36.06nymbiayeah.. items and stuff doesnt bother me since you're only using an item every couple of minutes in combat
07:36.06nymbiabut the autoshot thing.. i didnt know about that
07:36.06hyperChipmunki said it last night =p
07:36.06nymbiai didnt see :(
07:36.08hyperChipmunkand non-mana casts
07:36.08hyperChipmunkthat was it
07:36.15hyperChipmunkcall pet triggers it
07:36.19hyperChipmunkfeed pet
07:36.38hyperChipmunktracking
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07:36.51hyperChipmunkprobably pet actions too
07:36.57hyperChipmunkbut i stopped paying attention
07:37.22nymbiashouldnt be on pet actions
07:37.52hyperChipmunkoh, racials
07:37.52nymbiasince those should trigger a spellcast event on the pet, and it only watches for em on the player
07:38.46hyperChipmunkdeterrence too =)
07:38.49ckknightjust change it to check UNIT_MANA, I'd say
07:39.01hyperChipmunkbasically everything that happens ever starts it =D
07:39.02nymbiayeah i am :)
07:39.19nymbiadamn mana events fire like half a second after the cast >.<
07:39.22hyperChipmunki farted and it triggered
07:39.35NightHawkTheSanenymbia: maybe check regenfu and see how it starts the FSR bar?
07:39.54ckknightnymbia: no, in the same frame for me
07:40.02ckknightnymbia: and likely, it's probably more accurate
07:41.33VII-Beheritwhen i try to disable the raidframes in pitbull: [2007/04/28 09:47:42-919-x1]: PitBull-r33889\PitBull.lua:2503: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
07:41.33VII-BeheritPitBull-r33889\PitBull.lua:3068: in function `func'
07:41.33VII-BeheritDewdrop-2.0-33692 (FuBar):507: in function <...erface\AddOns\FuBar\libs\Dewdrop-2.0\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:446>
07:41.33VII-Beherit<PROTECTED>
07:41.36VII-Beheritsry
07:41.49VII-Beherithttp://ace.pastey.net/18488
07:41.54VII-Beheritwanted to post that :X
07:42.05hyperChipmunknah, error messages are usually okay =)
07:42.13CIA-3103ckknight * r33962 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua:
07:42.13CIA-31PitBull - Layouts/ABF - make Informational health text only show deficit for friends.
07:42.13CIA-31Make target Informational by default
07:42.15VII-Beheritiam not a friend of spam :D
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07:42.47nymbiackknight: in relation to the start of the actual five seconds? you might be right.
07:43.08hyperChipmunkyea, my guess would be the game uses that
07:43.25nymbiait's server-side
07:43.30hyperChipmunkwell
07:43.32nymbiaso probably somewhere in the middle
07:43.39hyperChipmunki mean that it triggers the mana event
07:43.48hyperChipmunkwhatever, it's 4am
07:43.50nymbiabut who cares about a tenth of a second one way or the other? heh
07:43.59hyperChipmunkthey're likely to be linked
07:44.55hyperChipmunkmy g/f was asking if there was a way to show the actual mana regen numbers
07:45.03hyperChipmunki couldn't find one
07:45.05hyperChipmunkis there?
07:45.49nymbiackknight: i'm reverting your change to the energy handler -- they still care about when ticks are gonna be when they're at full energy, perhaps moreso then.. for timing cheap shots ;)
07:46.06ckknightalright
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07:48.04hyperChipmunki heard ckknight's mom was a Cheap Shot
07:49.08sedatedChipmunknight folks
07:49.39nymbianight sedatedChipmunk
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07:50.19FISKER_Qnymbia
07:50.32FISKER_Qlets be together!
07:51.08sedatedChipmunk...except nymbia, who i hope dies in fire and everlasting burnination
07:51.43nymbia:(
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07:52.38FISKER_Qi will protect you nymbia!
07:52.41evlnymbia: I'm still getting right side overflow with spark
07:52.41sedatedChipmunk<3
07:52.50evlnymbia: an how can 1 pixel be enough when the texture itself is 20
07:53.15|Pixel|one pixel is always enough :P
07:53.20nymbiaevl: read the anchoring
07:53.29evlyeah it's center
07:53.31sedatedChipmunklol
07:53.40nymbia...
07:53.54sedatedChipmunkthat's gotta be annoying to get pinged like that
07:53.55nymbiacurrent_mana = UnitMana('player')
07:53.58nymbiaER
07:54.09nymbiapowerSpark.texture:SetPoint('CENTER', powerSpark, 'LEFT')
07:54.19|Pixel|I'm used to ;)
07:54.34theack the pings!
07:54.40thegah!
07:54.40nymbiaanyway
07:54.45nymbiaevl: screenshot it
07:54.46evlnymbia: i guess it's just purely cosmetic
07:54.54evlnymbia: i'll try to fraps it
07:55.05nymbiathat works
07:55.18evlRight now basic stuff is more annoying, if any of the raid members change my healthbars/name texts are still colored from the last person
07:57.13CIA-3103nymbia * r33963 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua:
07:57.13CIA-31PitBull_Spark:
07:57.13CIA-31- Check that mana.
07:57.46evlnymbia: did you look at kEnergy, it seems a lot more accurate I dunno exactly how he does it though
07:59.51nymbiaits much more complex, accounts for lag etc
08:00.01evlmhm
08:00.03nymbiathe idea is for kenergy to take over the ticker if it's present
08:01.24CIA-3103nymbia * r33964 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua:
08:01.24CIA-31PitBull_Spark:
08:01.25CIA-31- Don't reset the spark's progress to the start if a non-mana spellcast immediately follows a real one.
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08:12.14dottedwouldn't it be an idea to have an uption in the wowaceupdater (enabled by default) to only download actual releases of an addon?
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08:13.06Nickenyfikendotted: define a actual release?
08:13.12nevcairielthat would mean a whole new functionality
08:13.41dottedNickenyfiken those that get on addon sites such as curse
08:13.57nevcairielWAU is only able to update from the files page
08:14.12Nickenyfikendotted: then only download from those sites
08:15.29dottedNickenyfiken i'm not having problems others are - and those problems may or may not scare people away from ace
08:15.58FISKER_Qnot like we should care anyways
08:16.14dottedwhy should we not care?
08:16.36NickenyfikenWell those that are scaler of beta addons should not use them anyway
08:16.44Nickenyfikenthat's what release sites are made for
08:17.55dottedproblem is noone really knows that the files page only have beta addons (i'm talking about the general addon user)
08:18.19nevcairielsomeone should put a disclaimer in WAU
08:18.31Nickenyfikenand on the /files page
08:18.48dottedthat wouldnt be a bad idea
08:19.10NickenyfikenSomething like "Don't crap your pants when your gold is sent to nevcairiel"
08:19.16dotted:D
08:20.36nevcairielweee gold
08:20.37FISKER_Qadding that is not a problem
08:20.44nevcairielnow that i already have my mount, damn.
08:21.39NickenyfikenGet one for your alt
08:22.37nevcairielmy stupid alt idles on 63
08:23.11dottedmy stupid main idles at 42
08:23.19dotted:(
08:24.30NickenyfikenI hate my other lvl 70 cus he has no swift mount.
08:24.35NickenyfikenRefuse to play him :-P
08:24.40FISKER_QHas pprovost stopped developing WAU btw?
08:24.45FISKER_QSince kaelten wants new developers
08:24.46nevcairielI think so
08:24.53nevcairielkaelten took over management
08:25.07nevcairieli tried volunteering to kaelten for helping, but couldnt really reach him yet :P
08:25.21FISKER_QI wanna help too! :P
08:25.29FISKER_QDon't know that much yet though
08:26.17NickenyfikenWell does it need more development?
08:26.23NickenyfikenJust some maintence
08:26.39nevcairielit could need a interface overhaul imho
08:27.08FISKER_Qhow?
08:27.32NickenyfikenHmm i am gonna start a C#/MSSQL project on a company in a week
08:27.41NickenyfikenHaven't really done any C# in a year
08:27.50nevcairieli just recently "learned" C# for a university project
08:27.56nevcairielits a real easy language imho
08:28.07nevcairielif you know C and PHP and Lua et al
08:28.30Nickenyfikenyeah it is
08:28.40ckknightfrankly, I think coding it in .NET was a bad plan
08:28.40NickenyfikenEven easier if you know Java i think maybe
08:28.56NickenyfikenJava is better :-P
08:30.24FISKER_Qjava is crap! :P
08:30.34NickenyfikenBetter platform support
08:30.40ckknightat least Java is more portable than .NET
08:31.20NickenyfikenMy Java updater worked on NIX and Mac without even trying it
08:33.01FISKER_QIt's not like people use linux and mac anyways
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08:34.34Fisker-Shouldn't mono take care of linux and mac compatibillity anyways?
08:38.42nevcairielonly if you write your application with mono in mind.
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08:44.46TheKarnjava can be horrible
08:48.11NickenyfikenYeah
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08:50.01renchapPHP 5.2.1-pl3-gentoo (cgi-fcgi) (built: Apr 28 2007 10:12:16)
08:50.01renchapCopyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group
08:50.04renchapZend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies with XCache v1.2.0, Copyright (c) 2005-2006, by mOoPHP 5.2.1-pl3-gentoo (cgi-fcgi) (built: Apr 28 2007 10:12:16)
08:50.07renchapCopyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group
08:51.11renchapoops sorry
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08:51.11Fisker-so it's a phpinfo() fight?
08:51.14renchapphp --version ^^
08:51.54Fisker-PHP 5.2.1 (cli) (built: Apr 26 2007 15:30:38)
08:52.50Fisker-If only i had gentoo :(
08:55.46Megalonhttp://www.gentoo.org/
08:55.47Megalon:o
08:55.53Megaloncome get some!
08:59.50Fisker-yeah but i can't install it on my server
08:59.51Fisker-QQ
09:00.15renchapchange your provider ^^
09:00.26Fisker-no wai
09:00.34Fisker-they're awesome
09:00.52Fisker-It's just that i dunno how to install it remotely in a limited debian system
09:01.09renchapcan you netboot ?
09:01.13renchapon a minimal system
09:02.16Fisker-i think that's what it does yeah
09:02.47ckknightI believe I'm depressed
09:03.35renchapyou can start here : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4
09:03.53ckknightbeen there, done that
09:04.01ckknightgentoo was my first distro
09:04.10renchapbut you cant install gentoo on the same partition than debian, so you should use a netboot or so
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09:55.34NeeblerWE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNCHECKED AGGRESION HERE DUDE. What the fuck is he talking about walter? FORGET IT DONNIE YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE
09:57.06nevcairielwazzup?
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09:58.12Neeblerwe're talking about how they peed on his rug
09:58.22Neeblerit really tied the room together
10:00.34Ominousvhaarr: ping
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10:02.07xlviiokay
10:02.22xlviiif you have paypal, please send me a private message
10:02.54Neeblerit's a trap
10:03.14xlviino it's not.
10:03.26xlvii;p
10:03.27Neeblerunless you're a millionaire whose lost your marbles and want to give free money away over the internets
10:03.34xlviiaha.
10:03.35NeeblerI'm not biting
10:03.35xlviinot quite.
10:03.48xlviito cut a long story short
10:03.54xlviimy friend put up a website, asking for donations
10:03.59xlviisomeone donated.
10:04.20xlviithen retracted the money
10:04.30xlviiwith that, paypal charges a feee.
10:04.32xlvii$15 usd
10:04.46xlviiand my friend has a negative amount of money in his account now
10:04.49xlviiand he cannot close it.
10:04.56xlviiso, what i'm asking if
10:04.56xlviiis
10:05.07xlviiif anyone has like $1USD in their paypal
10:05.11xlviiplease send it to him.
10:05.12xlvii;p
10:05.19nevcairielgood try.
10:05.32Neebler#pityparty - you'll find more sympothy there
10:05.58xlviii'm 100% legit.
10:05.59xlviioh well.
10:07.06Neeblers/o/a/
10:07.12Neeblerbzzzt wrong
10:07.37Saiss/path/poth/
10:07.42Saisnbleh
10:07.49Neeblersaes!
10:07.55Sais:>
10:12.52ckknightxlvii: that's lame
10:14.14ckknightbtw, I accept donations to my paypal
10:14.31ckknightI know people have to like my mods...
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10:18.51_icetrainNo space left on device
10:18.53_icetrainops? :)
10:18.56sbumorning :)
10:19.36_icetrainwhile chekcing out the UTF8 external for grid
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10:39.37Neeblergoogle p2p wins
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10:40.51Punkie`Do you mean g2p?
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10:43.16ckknightgoogle p2p?
10:43.31Fisker-l2p_
10:43.33Fisker-?
10:43.45Punkie`there is no such thing as google p2p :P
10:43.48Punkie`just g2p
10:44.03Punkie`search google with the right search strings in order to find an mp3
10:44.09Punkie`http://www.g2p.org/
10:44.14Neeblerhttp://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=faezma923t
10:44.53Punkie`that isn't p2p :P
10:45.17Neeblerthe machines are alive!
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10:46.20Fisker-That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 1999 Punkie`
10:46.47Punkie`I know it is
10:46.51Punkie`tell Neebler :P
10:47.12Neebleroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook
10:47.41Neeblerwell I R NOT COMPROOTUR E-LITERATE
10:48.02Neeblerrather, it's a new trick to me
10:52.19Neeblerknow what's weird punkie?
10:52.28Neeblermy name is brewster
10:52.37Mikkthis sounds like a pyramid game scam to me =P
10:52.47Mikkwhoups... @ the paypal stuff further up
10:52.52Mikk(had scrolled up & locked >.<)
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10:55.14NeeblerI think it's funny that idiots fall for that crap. They're so blatantly obvious. They try and pretend to be what they believe to be an uneducated online using moron kid. So they type with improper grammar and don't use punctuation, then they use stypid faces like ";p"
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11:05.24Megalons0, is ther' ne1 th4t will d0n4t3 t00 mY p4yPalZ acc00nt PLX!!111
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11:37.15Gamefaqhiho
11:37.54Gamefaqcould someone check this plz:
11:37.54GamefaqFehler: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/trunk/CastCommLib'  
11:37.59GamefaqFehler: Berkeley DB error for filesystem /home/kyle/projects/grid/svn/db while checkpointing after Berkeley DB transaction:  
11:38.03GamefaqFehler: No space left on device  
11:39.10CIA-3103nevcairiel * r33968 10PitBull/Health/Health.lua:
11:39.10CIA-31PitBull
11:39.10CIA-31- color PvP Enemys by hostility as well when Hostility Coloring for NPCs is on, just makes more sense.
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11:42.25TheKarnping antiarc
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11:50.30xlviiany twitters here? ;p
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12:24.57xyuHeyfu is recording a tell twice.
12:25.02xyuso if  i get 10 tells it says i have 20 ><
12:26.24renchappastamancer: ping
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12:28.10snirkswhat is a twitter_
12:28.27snirksls
12:28.44Punkie`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter i guess
12:28.51Punkie`but it's also the sound a bird makes :P
12:33.26Finhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=681388403953763543
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12:34.44CIA-3103fleetfoot * r33969 10LittleTrouble/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
12:34.44CIA-31LittleTrouble:
12:34.44CIA-31- Rewrote most of the frame code
12:34.44CIA-31- Added options to tweak color, size and whatnot
12:34.44CIA-31- Might have gained an inch or two performance wise
12:34.45CIA-31- Mmmm dewdrop
12:37.05Ominouswhen a mage casts Polymorph: Pig what is the debuff called?
12:37.32vodrinthink they all give same debuff ?
12:37.51Ominousthanks :)
12:38.24vodrinhmm wowhead says otherwise though
12:38.31vodrinhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28272
12:41.16CIA-3103trh * r33970 10VanasKoS/ (GUICreate.lua VanasKoS.lua): VanasKoS: bugfix to show guild kos in portrait again
12:43.39ag`hey vhaarr
12:43.52ag`thanks for the optimizations on aguf
12:44.41Fisker-wowhead is right
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13:00.05snirkstoday i would like a new friend. anyone volunteer?
13:01.29[Ammo]www.realdoll.com
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13:03.31nevcairieli need directory symlinking on windows :o
13:03.43nevcairieli want to link my addons dir to the addons dir of the PTR client
13:04.53Megaloncan you do that
13:04.59Megalonwith junction under windows?
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13:06.05Megalonnevcairiel: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/Junction.mspx
13:06.40Megalonhope that's what you are looking for
13:06.57nevcairielsounds good
13:10.01nevcairielyay works
13:10.02nevcairielthanks :)
13:10.43Ziconsnirks: Depends. What kind of friend are you? Are you good for anything?
13:10.53snirksZicon: i can listen
13:10.56Fisker-sup
13:11.04snirkshello Fisker-
13:11.17snirksit is a norwegian word
13:11.27Fisker-moar liek danish
13:11.33snirksmaybe
13:12.14snirks14638 hp unbuffed now
13:12.20snirksim getting there
13:12.29Fisker-wouldn't that fail with Blizzard_ addons?
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13:14.33snirkswhat Fisker- ?
13:14.41Ziconsnirks: Boring.
13:14.43Fisker-symlinks
13:17.03krkaany gnuplot gurus here?
13:17.25Fisker-i
13:17.28Fisker-i'm not lolwutting
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13:32.19ckknightlol wut?
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13:33.11ag`yo homies I'm ballin'
13:35.15snirkshi ag
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13:38.00Chomperswhats balling?
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13:41.04wobin...
13:41.04wobinriding the two backed horse?
13:41.05wobinplaying hide the sausage?
13:41.15wobinOr am I somewhat off course with the definition?
13:42.59Ziconwobin, you filthy little person.
13:43.15wobinwell yes. I blame sedatedChipmunk he's corrupted me
13:45.38Fisker-y helo thar wobin
13:45.46Fisker-how's mr. plow coming along?
13:47.22wobinbit by bit
13:49.45xlviidoes anyone here have twitter? ;p
13:50.36Fisker-very funny wobin
13:50.44Fisker-but technically it's byte per byte
13:51.00wobinnot at the rate I'm going =)
13:51.20Fisker-you can't write less than a byte :I
13:51.41nevcairielif he wrote in binary ..
13:51.48wobin1001011101000100011010!
13:51.55wobins/!/!!1!/
13:52.18harldephinoO
13:52.25Fisker-you just wrote a lot of bytes!
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14:05.52Ominouswhats the debuff from power word shield called?
14:06.03Fisker-Weakened soul
14:06.05ZiconWeakened soul
14:06.43Ominousthanks
14:07.13Ominousis it a capital s at the start of soul?
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14:07.32Aiianebelieve so yes
14:08.17Aiianehttp://thottbot.com/s6788
14:08.21Aiianeit is
14:09.06Ominousthanks :)
14:12.36Ominousis the sleep part of Wyvern Sting and the dot part called Wyvern Sting?
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14:16.29Fisker-looks like it
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14:24.43dottedsomeone agree with me that there is still some form of ghosting left on LCD screens today :<
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14:27.43xlviican't say i've seen much of it :P
14:28.01Fisker-same here
14:28.15AiianeOminous: yes (although a bit late)
14:29.33OminousAiiane: thanks :)
14:30.44dottedim not saying you can see it, im just saying its there :p
14:31.06Ominousright now just need some testers on the test realm
14:32.41Fisker-us or eu?
14:32.49Ominouseu
14:33.05xlviimm..
14:33.09Fisker-i'll be there soon then
14:33.10xlviican any dutch people translate this?
14:33.12Fisker-if you need me
14:33.13xlviiZimbabwe verdrijft hulporganisaties
14:33.21Fisker-gotta take over halaa first though
14:33.25Ominous:) what class do u ahve
14:33.29Fisker-paladin
14:33.43OminousFisker: then yea i do need u
14:33.50Ominousi can only test rogue
14:34.02Ominousgod my laptop is taking ages to commit
14:34.17CIA-3103ominous * r33971 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (11 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: Added other classes
14:34.29Fisker-i think it's
14:34.42Fisker-"Zimbabwe repels helporganisations"
14:34.48Fisker-something like that
14:35.22xlviihmm..
14:35.23xlviinot good.
14:35.24xlvii>_>
14:36.00xlviiif you can speak / read / translate dutch, please send me a private message.
14:36.55Fisker-so Ominous what do you need me to do?
14:37.24Ominoustest that the pallidin timers work, expecially the party tuff
14:37.26Ominousstuff*
14:37.31wobinman this colemap thing is hard to get used to
14:37.56wobins/ap/ak/
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14:38.38Fisker-what do i need to download?
14:38.43hugohi
14:39.09OminousFisker: hang on just adding a few missing locales
14:39.23VangualOminous: just noticed in the your svn changeset, there's loads of references to "shamen" as class all over the place, think you might need to massreplace to "shaman" and rename some files :)
14:41.14Fisker-just asking one of my friends xlvii
14:44.17Ominousheh...
14:51.13Ominouskill me now... was wondering why my metatable stopped working... i commented out the return part
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14:58.33Ominousanyone with babble-2.2 checkout out already here?
15:00.33vhaarr?
15:01.10Mikmahttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxg0zhLtbtZbxtcbbVb
15:01.59Fisker-why doesn't wowhead have a testserver section ?:O
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15:20.45kaidenbleh, in search of an easy way to detect mana in druid shapeshifted form :/
15:26.20KarlThePagandruidbar
15:26.26KarlThePagansomething like that
15:26.57KarlThePaganhopefully someone will correct me I'm sure there's a new/better solution by now
15:28.24sedatedChipmunki think either icehud or archud had one that they spun off into a standalone
15:29.04KarlThePaganwb agUF integrated one
15:29.08KarlThePagan;)
15:29.11KarlThePaganwtb
15:30.20kaidenwtb PitBull Integrated one ;)
15:34.40kaidennight night ;p
15:34.57kaidenchipmunks will eat anything i tell ya
15:35.06kaidenincluding my fingers at times :(
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15:47.18Aiianeckknight: you around?
15:49.43CIA-3103gagorian * r33972 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
15:49.43CIA-31DrDamage:
15:49.43CIA-31-Now calculates the crit chance of the Lightning Capacitor proc as well
15:52.20CIA-3103ominous * r33973 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (13 files in 3 dirs): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: renamed shamen shaman, added other rogue poisons
15:58.14Ominousright anyone want to help with testing on test realm eu?
16:00.32vhaarrTest what?
16:01.40Ominousmy ClassTimer addon
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16:03.22Ominoushang on why did i say it needed to be eu
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16:15.48CIA-3103fenlis * r33974 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/Locales/koKR.lua:
16:15.48CIA-31FuBar_ClassTimerFu
16:15.48CIA-31<PROTECTED>
16:16.50CIA-3103ominous * r33975 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_ClassTimerFu.toc): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: removed revision in version as it was erroring
16:19.53Ominousdammit lua.org is down will  tonumber(string.match("$Rev: 33975 $", "%d+")) return the revision as a number
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16:23.40Ominousat 33924
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16:24.55CIA-3103ominous * r33976 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: re-added revision stuff
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16:39.15Tornhoof~seen elkano
16:39.37purlelkano <n=elkano@srbk-590f9b45.pool.einsundeins.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 10m 50s ago, saying: 'fixed: <snurre> i soo hate french'.
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16:39.55Tornhoofspeaking of the devil
16:40.36Tornhoofelkano any way to reduce memory usage of itemdb again, after the lookup ui is closed?
16:42.31CIA-3103whitetooth * r33977 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
16:42.32CIA-31StatLogicLib:
16:42.32CIA-31- Improved GetSum() algorithm, added DeepScanWordSeparators for a 2 pass separation, so that it now supports stats like the ZG lock enchant "+18 Healing and Spell Damage/+10 Stamina"
16:42.32CIA-31- Other bug fixes
16:43.04Elkanowell, no... wouldn't allow it to stay persistant over open/close but static memory usage shouldn't be the problem, or is it?
16:43.48Tornhoofi like small values ;)
16:44.11Tornhoofprobably i should just change the coloring values in performancefu :D
16:44.42Anduneyeah, mines always red.  my base footprint size is ~75
16:44.49Tornhoofmine is 20mb
16:45.50CIA-3103whitetooth * r33978 10RatingBuster/ (7 files):
16:45.50CIA-31RatingBuster: 1.1.7
16:45.50CIA-31- Minor bug fixes
16:45.50CIA-31- Updated Taiwan localizations by mcc
16:45.50CIA-31- Updated Korean localizations by fenlis
16:45.50CIA-31- Updated French localizations by renchap
16:45.55vhaarr20mb is nothing :)
16:45.56AnduneI like lots of info.  So I apparantly run mods that use up a good bit of memory keeping all that info.  I got 2G, wow only uses half that, so I guess it doesn't bother me  :)
16:46.20vhaarrI use 24-40, depending
16:46.29Tornhoofi know vhaar, but i like having a footprint of 20 ;)
16:46.43Tornhoofwith itemdb loaded it's 28 currently
16:47.29Tornhoofelkano just add some config setting checkbox for destroying the persistant data after open/close :)
16:47.34Fisker-mine's at 100MiB
16:47.39Fisker-am i doing it right?
16:48.06Tornhoofyeh
16:48.38Andunewould be neat if performancefu was able to record the "base" over a number of logins, and scaled the colors up from there in percentages
16:49.03vhaarrAndune: it will probably be doing something like that in 2.1
16:49.10vhaarrwe'll see
16:49.17Anduneor even just an edit box I guess to plugin the base.  :)  I keep thinking of going to tweak the LUA to my base, but then it'd get overwritten everytime I update.
16:49.31Anduneand I'm just used to it being red all the time by now anyway  :)
16:49.34Fisker-btw
16:49.37Fisker-aren't you Antiarc?
16:49.53Andunevhaarr:  that'd be cool
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16:51.45Fisker-should've kicked me in the bottomless pit while you could
16:52.06vhaarrdinnertime now, maybe later
16:53.14Fisker-gonna watch the new mr. bean movie
16:53.14ElkanoTornhoof, maybe I'll make it that reset kills the data ^^ so you can reset before close
16:55.55Tornhoofyah why not
16:59.29CIA-3103whitetooth * r33979 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster.lua:
16:59.30CIA-31RatingBuster:
16:59.30CIA-31- Locale fix
17:01.26MorghusAny news on KC_Items 2 and how it's progressing ( and if it's ready to hit beta-release soon ;D )
17:01.46HjalteMorghus, just get it from svn. It's working.
17:02.50MorghusThen I need the program to get stuff from the svn and access. I suppose there's a tutorial or something on wowace.com?
17:03.08Anduneok, so I've got an herb.  Say, blindweed.  Mendelleev tells me in the tooltip it's used by herbalism, great.   What is the best mod for figuring out which recipes I can make with it?
17:04.03ArrowmasterAndune: you an alch?
17:04.04MorghusI have a mod that lists that. Hold on, I'll check which it is
17:04.12Andunearrowmaster: yes
17:04.19Arrowmasteropen your alch window once
17:04.19Vangualmandeleev shows the recipes for me, but i guess you need to be alch
17:04.26Arrowmasterthen check the tooltip again
17:04.34Anduneyeah I couldda swore it used to.  but not anymore.
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17:04.42Arrowmasterit does for me
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17:04.55Funkeh`hey
17:05.18Andunewell.  ClosetGnome used to show me gear set on the tooltip too, but it doesn't now.  I think it started when this 'Stat Summary' info started appearing on the tooltip
17:05.51Andunethe danger in auto-updating general-purpose mods off of WAU is occasionaly I get new features and have no idea what mod is doing it  :P
17:06.11MorghusAndune: Yeah ;D
17:06.21Vangualratingbuster, can turn the summary stuff off
17:07.27Anduneahh  ty, let me try that and see if my other tooltip info comes back.  Not that I want to turn it off, it's cool info, but I miss my other info too...  :P
17:07.51harldephinmy Mendeleev seems to be unable to find a string in Babble-Boss or something like that..
17:08.10Vanguali personally turned it off quickly, it's redundant info imho
17:08.14vhaarrAndune: Get ClosetGnome_Tooltip.
17:08.51Killmorewow, thats nice to see KTM is in my top3 of memory usage and im not in a group, he's supose to calculate nothing.. I'm just standing in shattrah doingn nothing..
17:08.54Andunelol, ok well that explains the missing ClosetGnome.  and yeah, turning off ratingBuster stats didn't fix.
17:09.08Andunekillmore:  yeah KTM is a pig.
17:09.27ThraeKillmore: KB/s or just total memory usage? If the latter, then yeah, I could easily see KTM doing that
17:09.33Vangualexpect much drama on ktm once 2.1 with it's top usage functions goes live :P
17:09.44Anduneok so now I just need to figure out how to get mendelleev to show the 'used in recipe xxx' again..
17:10.00harldephinClearFonts calls a method 'ApplySystemFonts' which doesn't seem to exist
17:10.12Killmore5 in memory usage and second in cpu usage
17:10.35trhVangual: hehe.. i made a comment on the mod site at curse-gaming telling him it takes alot of cpu time even when only idling... he answered that the even-response time is great and cpu time doesnt matter because you're idling anyway.....
17:10.47trheven = event
17:11.52MorghusThere's a saying: "Many small creeks quickly gather up in a massive flood"
17:11.58Morghus:p
17:12.18Vanguali like his code and the addon is useful, but kenco's april fools post in the curse thread shows his stance on the usage :)
17:12.31vhaarrVangual: Link?
17:12.48Vangualhmm, prolly a few hundred pages deep, lemme go dig
17:13.44Killmorehaha yeah I remember the april fool "Now KTM use Ace2 and blablablabla to save up to.. in memory usage"
17:13.50Vangualvhaarr: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/klhthreatmeter/?cpage=9
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17:14.35Vangual(bottommost post of kenco)
17:15.06kenlyrican april fools that your code will be made less stupid.
17:15.18kenlyricthat's... insane.
17:15.24Andunecould it be manufac that is preveting mendeleev from working?  I can't actually open the alch window, tho I assume manufac does it in the background when I reset..
17:17.45wobingod forbid stuff gets better =P
17:17.48harldephinwhat's the name of that add-on capable of showing me the amount of memory another add-on is using ?
17:18.15VangualAndune: hmm, going into mandeleev's options with niagara there's an option to turn some of the sets off, do you have those all turned on?
17:18.26Killmoreim using performanceFu (Fubar) in 2.1 PTR
17:18.38Andunevangual:  yeah it's all turned on.
17:18.50harldephinand what if i don't want to use FuBar ?
17:19.08Anduneharldephin: blasphemy!
17:19.21Killmorehahaha
17:19.33CIA-3103phyber * r33980 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
17:19.33CIA-31XPBarNone:
17:19.34CIA-31- Auto Watch Reputation now defaults to On.
17:19.34harldephinthat's not what i meant
17:21.04Vangualthen you could use warmup with less accuracy and other stuff to keep in mind when judging numbers
17:21.10MorghusOne thing I'm wondering, if kc items 2 works and all, why isn't it taken from the svn to the files.wowace section?
17:23.54JoshBorkeMorghus: it's not in trunk
17:24.30phyberMorghus: perhaps because the author doesn't consider it ready for trunk yet.
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17:30.31Ominousis there a priest or pally on test realm who can test fubar_classtimerfu with a pary and raid member please
17:32.28AiianeJoshBorke or Morghus - is KCItems2 the Ace2 tag in branch?
17:32.54JoshBorkei don't ermember which one it is
17:33.07CIA-3103ominous * r33981 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: bug fixes *2
17:33.26Aiianeim going to assume so then, given that it's the one modified by kael
17:33.55JoshBorkeif i've modified it then yes itis
17:35.51Ominousfiles.wowace.com has stopped syncing with dev.wowace.com
17:37.00phyberit only sync every 20 mins or so.
17:37.00Hjaltephyber, it hasnt synced in some hours now.
17:37.03vhaarrindeed the script has stopped
17:37.06phyberfair enough then ;)
17:37.52TecnoBrat~seen toadkiller
17:38.04purltoadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-35-104-19.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 19h 39m 40s ago, saying: 'Kinkx: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50956831&sid=1'.
17:42.00HjalteOminous, why does ClassTimerFu need wow 2.1?
17:42.50CIA-3103ominous * r33982 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: dammit only updated the buff part
17:54.54CIA-3103zuno * r33983 10uab_PitBullFrames/uab_PitBullFrames.lua:
17:54.54CIA-31uab_PitBullFrames:
17:54.54CIA-31- Commented out a section of code that caused repeated re-registrations of PitBull unit frames.
17:56.24CIA-3103zuno * r33984 10UnitActionBars/UnitGroup.lua:
17:56.24CIA-31UnitActionBars:
17:56.24CIA-31- Added some checks if the layout that a given group of action buttons use is not available (no longer loaded). Now uses default layout (bar) in this case.
17:58.12CIA-3103zuno * r33985 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
17:58.12CIA-31UnitActionBars:
17:58.13CIA-31- Updated revision
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18:35.26Ominousplease can a caster test something for me on the test realm?
18:35.36Fisker-Is i a caster?
18:36.30Megalonif battleshout is considered casting
18:36.31Megalon:7
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18:36.59Ominousyay can you download FuBar_ClassTimerFu and tell me if a) party and raid timers work, and b) if you target someone in your party and buff them if the timer appears twice
18:39.24Fisker-alright
18:39.35Ominousthanks
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18:42.32FinOminous: I was wondering what you were testing
18:42.41Fin-that crap at the beginning
18:42.48Adirellehi there
18:43.11OminousFin: my new timers which use the 2.1 buff/debuff api
18:43.12Adirelle~seen nymbia
18:43.41purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-159-27.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 43m 38s ago, saying: 'the idea is for kenergy to take over the ticker if it's present'.
18:43.41FinOminous: if you want a tester on our server, I'm willing
18:43.41OminousFin: what class are u
18:43.41FinPriest
18:43.42Fisker-ïn a raid it shows up double when i buff my self
18:43.55Fisker-and when i remove the buff one timer stays
18:44.12OminousFin: well some extra testing wouldnt go amiss but i dont have a clue if the party stuff works atm
18:44.25OminousFin: though it should
18:44.31FinOminous: ah, righto :) sorry, missed the bit about it being 2.1 :)
18:44.48Fisker-only once in party
18:45.02FinOminous: well if you don't have a local guinea pig, let me know :)
18:45.14OminousFisker: what?
18:46.04Fisker-The bars show up twice when i buff myself in a raid
18:46.05Finer, "NEEDS WOW 2.1!!" - is it going to break anything in 2.0?
18:46.07Fisker-only once in party
18:47.01Fisker-oh wait
18:47.07Fisker-lol wut
18:47.14Fisker-it shows double when i target myself
18:47.15OminousFin: it wont work in 2.0 but it wont break anything
18:47.21OminousFisker ok thanks
18:48.23Fink
18:48.24Fisker-paladin tier 5 makes the sun shine at night
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18:48.48CIA-3103ominous * r33986 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: hopefully fixed double showing
18:48.48OminousFisker: ok try that
18:48.59OminousFin: it uses the new name, rank, icon, count, duration, timeLeft = UnitBuff(UnitID, i)
18:49.45Fincool!
18:49.50Fisker-seems to work fine
18:49.55Fisker-but
18:50.14Fisker-light's grace doesn't update(although i don't get why you have a timer for it)
18:50.26Ominouscos i copied a list a friend gave me
18:51.00Fisker-and it's only when you target yourself it doesn't update
18:51.11Fisker-retarget yourself, or don't have yourself targetted and it'll update fine
18:51.41OminousFisker: ok, odd what does it do
18:51.48Ominousand what is the updaing it needs?
18:52.00Fisker-decreases your casttime on your next holy light by 0.5 seconds
18:52.06Fisker-self buff only
18:52.14Ominousah i see why
18:52.43CIA-3103ominous * r33987 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: maybe fix
18:52.50Ominoussee if that works and retest with the raid
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18:54.12Ominousthis new api is so great cos now i can track deadly poison exactly and also the other types
18:54.36Fisker-didn't seem to work
18:55.03Ominousas in it didnt change anything or it broke it
18:55.21Fisker-didn't change anything
18:55.46Ominousk
18:56.22CIA-3103ominous * r33988 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: another try
18:56.26Fisker-cute you say?
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18:56.36Ominousi dont think that will work
18:56.38Ominousbut try
18:57.12Vangualis there range indication in pitbull already that i'm overlooking?
18:57.14Fisker-nope
18:57.25Fisker-yeah Vangual
18:58.12Vangualah seperate addon, blind me
18:58.41harldephinFisker-: yeah, i said so.
18:59.00Fisker-"i said so" you said?
18:59.01CIA-3103ominous * r33989 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: another try
18:59.38Ominousi hate not a) having a caster and b) not having test realm
19:00.33Ominousfisker: try that
19:00.38Fisker-sec
19:01.08Fisker-works perfectly
19:01.16Ominousyay
19:01.30Ominousthere is one downside with the enw system though
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19:01.48Ominousin order to track CC effects liek sap and sheep when you arnt targeting it you have to focus it
19:02.11TecnoBratimo, a mage should focus their sheep target anyways :P
19:02.20TecnoBratthats just good practice
19:02.29Fisker-somewhat overkill in instances imo
19:02.37Fisker-i almost never use focus targets myself
19:02.37TecnoBratget a nice macro
19:02.40Fisker-but i'm just a healer
19:03.09TecnoBratthere are some really nice macros for setting focus target, sheeping, resetting target, etc
19:03.23Fisker-it would make sense though that blizzard would atleast allow you to keep track of your own buffs and debuffs
19:03.27ThraePerfectTargets shows if a mob its tracking is CC'd, but of course someone needs to be targeting the mob for it to get status. There's no way to get status on a mob that's not targeted, set as a focus unit, or mouse'd over.
19:03.50TecnoBratI use focus targets as a healer for every escort quest, etc
19:03.55Fisker-smart idea Thrae
19:03.56CIA-3103ominous * r33990 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: removed a debug table i made when running a metatable
19:04.17Thraehttp://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow <-- has focus support, and you can also use focus as MA (of course, 2.1 will change this)
19:04.45Fisker-aren't the maintanks and mainassists unit ids as well?
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19:06.20ThraeFisker-: In 2.1, yes
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19:08.25CIA-3103adirelle 07Adirelle * r33991 10PT3Bar/: Created folder remotely
19:09.07CIA-3103adirelle 07Adirelle * r33992 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar/ (. Config.lua PT3Bar.lua): PT3Bar: my own enhanced version.
19:09.29Fisker-intriguing
19:09.32Fisker-or however you spell it
19:09.33Fisker-nymbia !
19:09.38Fisker-it is can be raeps tiem now_
19:09.39Fisker-?
19:10.05nymbiaAdirelle: you can stick those changes in trunk if you'd like
19:10.23AdirelleI added a bunch more, dunno if they would please anyone
19:10.46Fisker-it might please me
19:10.53nymbiawell as long as no features go away or anything like that
19:10.58Matrix110hmm PT3Bar i gotta test it again maybe its working better now as when i tested it:)
19:11.15nymbiathen go for it ;)
19:11.30Fisker-lolwut
19:11.42Fisker-Wowhead guys are advertising for joana's wow guide
19:11.45Matrix110Autobar is kinda getting annoying in the last time
19:11.47AdirelleI think the patch I post on the forum could be easily merged, I'll may do it
19:12.04nymbiaokie, up to you of course :D
19:12.34AdirelleI added some "strange" things in the branch, like pet food button
19:12.55Adirelleor "autosnapping" (I feel this is not the correct word) bar
19:13.17nymbiaah
19:13.45AdirelleSet content are also sorted by value (though this is done once at init)
19:14.07nymbiaoh right that reminds me i had a commit i meant to do
19:14.16Pneueqdkp makes my head hurt :<
19:14.21Fisker-why?
19:14.22Adirelle(I then just iterate it from top to bottom or bottom to top, depending on "showbest")
19:15.33Pneu(member_earned-member_spent+member_adjustment) AS member_current, all 3 fields are FLOAT(11,2) but the result is a float with 12 decimal places :s
19:15.51Matrix110you use a modified version then
19:15.55Matrix110we had a similiar problem
19:16.15Fisker-i also believe the eqdkp guys posted a  solution for it
19:16.27CIA-3103nymbia * r33993 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
19:16.27CIA-31PT3Bar:
19:16.27CIA-31- Simplify some stuff in the attributes, hopefully this fixes buttons occasionally not hiding properly.
19:17.04kergothooh thatd be good
19:17.15Pneui assume its mysql playing funny actually, as i dont even know where its getting the extra decimal places from
19:17.23Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar-test/plugins/bossloot/bossloot.php?s=&bossid=moroes <-this is awesome though
19:18.32Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar-test/listraids.php?s= <-this however is not that awesome
19:18.47Matrix110i would make the pic smaller tbh
19:18.52Fisker-^^
19:19.07Fisker-My first priority is the other problem though :P
19:19.19Matrix110and i would name the bosses correct!
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19:21.16Fisker-duh
19:21.41Fisker-don't worry our raidleaders already got severe butthurt incoming
19:22.38Adirellenymbia: do think self-cast on right-click should be a "toggleable" behavior ?
19:22.46Matrix110i remember when i needed to fix like all MC items possible to drop when we got ItemStats...
19:23.06kergothckknight: mind if i bump the maxes on the group spacing (vert & horiz)?  because its interpreting those numbers as in the coordinate system of the frames in question, if you have frames scaled way down, those maxes aren't nearly high enough for some frame arrangements
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19:24.51Fisker-also reminds me of how you _shouldn't_ set itemstats to update items by itself
19:25.05Fisker-The site was loading for like 10 minutes before it was done :P
19:25.17Matrix110lol
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19:25.58Matrix110we use eqdkp multi dkp atm its quite nice made
19:26.15Fisker-what's that?
19:29.17CIA-3103adirelle * r33994 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
19:29.17CIA-31PT3Bar:
19:29.17CIA-31- self cast on right-click,
19:29.17CIA-31- alfo use standard UI self cast settings,
19:29.17CIA-31- hide popup on click,
19:29.18CIA-31- only one popup is visible at a time,
19:29.20CIA-31- hiding delay reduced to 0.5s.
19:29.31Adirelledamn typo :/
19:29.43Matrix110hmm statLogic lib seems borked gotta investigate!
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19:33.06kenlyrichttp://rome.ro/2007/01/ipod-with-nes-controller-running-doom.html
19:33.32Fisker-not romero
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19:34.05Pneuhmm, it seems FLOAT(11,2) in mysql just masks the output number, not actually forces the data stored to be rounded
19:34.20Thraekenlyric: Yeah, I think that might need parts of Ipod Linux
19:35.12kenlyricthat's the sexiest mod I've ever seen.
19:35.38PneuPT3 like autobar?
19:35.53Pneu*PT3bar even
19:36.05Fisker-yeah kenlyric
19:36.14Fisker-Noticed how he destroyed the ipod?
19:36.17Fisker-I loved every part of it
19:36.44Fisker-Removing each shred of apple failure and replacing it with doom, linux, nes and win
19:37.07Fisker-:P
19:37.23chutwigPneu: surely you don't mean to suggest that mysql is doing something stupid
19:38.14Fisker-MySQL is just some homebrew shit made my 2 12-year olds chutwig
19:38.20Fisker-so of course it's buggy!
19:38.21Fisker-:D
19:38.50Pneuchutwig: it would appear so!
19:39.10PneuSELECT member_earned,(member_earned+0) AS member_current FROM eqdkp_members
19:39.19Pneuyou'd ASSUME the 2 column outputs would be the same
19:39.24Pneumember_earned member_current
19:39.24Pneu493.96 493.95999145508
19:40.26Pneuso member_earned is actually a fat decimal, not 2 DP as the query suggests
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19:42.50ckknightkergoth: perhaps it should divide by scale instead?
19:43.00ckknightdunno
19:43.25MegalonPneu: i think internal it's stored with max precision
19:43.36Megalonto minimize round off failures
19:44.46KinkxIs it possible to target a person with /target and provide some kind of suffix to make it only target the exact name you want? like TargetByName("someguy",1), but that doesn't work anymore :(
19:45.09Ominousnope
19:45.35Kinkxboo!
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19:48.40CIA-3103nymbia * r33995 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua:
19:48.40CIA-31PitBull_Aura:
19:48.40CIA-31- Set the properties of each debuff frame only once; this should speed things up a bit.
19:49.06nymbias/debuff/aura/
19:49.28Ominous~whaleslap nymbia
19:49.48purlACTION beats nymbia upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
19:50.32Ominouspurl, help me
19:53.04Pneui appear to have bodged a fix, changing the column data type to DECIMAL(11,2) rather than FLOAT
19:57.18kergothckknight: i dunno, the downside to that would be you wouldnt be able to position them as accurately, since you'd only be able to position them by one unscaled pixel rather than one scaled pixel.  *shrug*
19:59.40Gagoriannymbia: Thanks for the changes btw.. Did you find anything else that could be optimized?
20:00.05Pneuputting an escort in the middle of mana tombs was the dumbest idea ever
20:02.42harldephini've got a LUA question: how to include a double quote in a string ?
20:03.37ckknightasdf = 'hey "friend"'
20:03.37nymbiaGagorian: nothing that i had a good idea on how to implement, i'd like to try to get the memory usage on :RawNumbers and :DoTooltip down a bit though.
20:03.44ckknightasdf = "hey \"friend\""
20:03.52ckknightasdf = [[hey "friend"]
20:04.00ckknight]
20:09.15Ominoushuh ckknight?
20:09.15Ominousohh i see t question
20:09.24harldephinthanks
20:09.46chutwigoh man i found my system shock 2 cd and my sam and max talkie cd
20:09.46chutwigbest discovery ever
20:10.48Gagoriannymbia: Same
20:11.16GagorianI tried to reduce it from 2.4kB per update
20:11.30Gagorian(full AB update)
20:11.57GagorianBut, didn't really get it down from that
20:12.11Finchutwig: System Shock 2!
20:12.23chutwigFin: l-l-l-look at you, h-h-acker
20:12.23Finfuck me I'd forgotten about that game, that was one of my most favouritest games EVER!
20:12.34Finjesus, when did that come out?!
20:12.45chutwigloooooong time ago
20:12.57Finand did you hear, they're making a sequel?
20:12.57nymbiahrm.. on the bright side my tweaks to pitbull auras seem to have boosted its performance by 40% or so
20:13.08NightHawkTheSaneSomething like 2000?
20:13.17chutwig1999
20:13.17chutwigand bioshock is like the spiritual successor to it
20:13.27Finearlier than that I think
20:13.37chutwigdone by a lot of the same people
20:13.48Gagoriannymbia: Memory usage is no issue i constant updates on buffs/debuffs isn't on
20:13.48chutwignah, i just looked it up
20:13.59Fin1997 or before
20:14.11Finoh, really?
20:14.25chutwigsystem shock was 1994, ss2 was 1999
20:14.39Finoh yeah
20:14.39Gagoriannymbia: But that's what most people like..
20:14.53FinI'm thinking of system shock then
20:15.08Gagorians/i constant/if constant
20:15.24nymbiaGagorian: yeah
20:15.24Finanyway: sequel
20:15.40chutwigi have the CD but i'm on my mac and i don't have a boot camp partition
20:18.59Ominousboot camp?
20:18.59Gagoriannymbia: I haven't seen any point in cacheing either, since even now it only udpates when needed.. so that cache would still need to be updated
20:18.59chutwigfor booting windows
20:18.59GagorianIt would only be useful if you check the same tooltips over and over without any change to buff/debuff/items etc
20:18.59Fincould someone please tell me: how does one refer to "++"? (in the context of adding 1 to a variable's value)
20:18.59JoshBorkecan't do it in lua
20:19.00GagorianAnd it's a lot of data so.. I don't see a point in it
20:19.00FinJoshBorke: I know, I mean, in other languages, where you can do it
20:19.00FinJoshBorke: thanks though
20:19.00JoshBorkeincrementer
20:19.00JoshBorkeor perhaps increment
20:19.00NightHawkTheSaneincrement/decriment usually
20:19.04ckknighti = i + 1
20:19.04FinI was just trying to remember what it was called, and tried searching... but searching for "++" isn't easy
20:19.04Gagoriannymbia: All in all it's fairly small. I deleted buffscanning, data for other classes and itemsets and it was 160 kB compared to TheoryCraft2 about 1 meg
20:19.06FinI mean, like, ?: is the ternary operator
20:19.06Fin++ has a name as well, doesn't it?
20:19.06JoshBorkedon't think it actually has a name
20:19.06nymbiaoh yeah i'm sure there's never been any doubt that it's lighter than theorycraft by a lot ;)
20:19.07NightHawkTheSaneFin:
20:19.07chutwigincrement operator?
20:19.07NightHawkTheSanehttp://www.google.com/search?q=increment%20operator
20:19.07FinNightHawkTheSane: thank you :)
20:19.07NightHawkTheSanepost-increment, or pre-increment operators is the specific name, unary would be the generic name i guess.
20:19.07Finpost-increment! that's the one I was thinking of
20:19.08Fin(specifically)
20:19.08Fincheers!
20:19.08FinI love that feeling when you find out the answer to something that's been bugging you and you can aaaalmost remember
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20:19.09Gagoriannymbia: Well, if you get any ideas I'm open for suggestions as long as it remains relatively simple. Easily maintained correct calculations are still as much an important factor as performance :>
20:19.09nymbiaGagorian: yeah, i'll see if i can come up with anything
20:19.09FinI don't care about performance anymore
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20:19.10Finmy new graphics card has 768MB of memory
20:19.10Finthat's almost as much as my old computer had for main memory
20:19.10Finit's just nuts
20:19.10FinI say, if I have to spend money on all that memory, might as well use it
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20:19.52GagorianStill perplexed over the Dewdrop slider issues.. Tried modifying a bit but didn't get it working any better.
20:20.22Fingranted reality will probably slap me in the face soon, but I new hardware requires a carefree and happy-go-lucky attitude!
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20:21.19Finwhat a weird phrase
20:21.21Finhappy-go-lucky
20:21.41Finis that happy --- go ---> lucky?
20:21.42Vangualclearly you need to run vista with all bells on now, so you can fill all that memory with ultrahighres textures of your desktop elements ;)
20:21.55chutwigugh vista
20:22.05chutwigsetting new lows in system responsiveness
20:22.38Finit's just like, a new skin, right?
20:22.45Finand some extra drm?
20:23.07Finactually if it's not, I don't need to know
20:23.13Vangualhehe
20:23.37chutwigi will continue to wallow in my huggy mac
20:23.41Vangualwasn't gonna advertise it, just can't think of much else to fill so much graphic ram with
20:23.43Finand a proper local freebsd server!
20:23.50jaeteis nobody else getting a wow error when entering eots or av with (only the basic) pitbull enabled?
20:23.59jaetegetting on my nerves :p
20:24.03FinVangual: badly written addons~!
20:24.06jaeteand yeah i updated 15 mins ago
20:24.21Vangualoh yea
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20:30.38GagorianNice. Found the dewdrop 'bug'
20:30.42Gagorianand fixed
20:31.54nevcairielso upload the fix
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20:36.06GagorianHow much accuracy do you think is needed?
20:37.58GagorianTechnically infinite would be nice I guess, but if it's generally used in scaling stuff and such.. Maybe 1/billion should be enough? :>
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20:39.45JoshBorkedefinable by the mod :-P
20:40.41GagorianWell, it's defined when dewdrop creates the sliderframe
20:41.03Gagorianso there would have to be some way to get it over from aceoptions table
20:41.18GagorianI'll let someone else do that, I'll just increase it for now
20:41.53Chompersi just updated PitBull and its created a dimentional vortex to the 7th dimention, how do i fix this please?
20:42.03JoshBorkeChompers: revert
20:42.06Chompersthe demons are interupting my wow time
20:42.56Vangualbanish :)
20:42.57break19Chompers: is that supposed to be funny? wasnt really
20:43.28Chomperseh?
20:43.43CIA-3103gagorian * r33996 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:
20:43.43CIA-31DewdropLib:
20:43.43CIA-31-Allow Dewdrop slider step accuracy to be up to one billionth of the slider range (allows for more accurate steps)
20:43.47NightHawkTheSaneChompers: capture the vortex and put it inside a police box. Go on zany adventures with a young and attractive female.
20:44.21ChompersPitBull seems to have some craaaazy bugs in it, i just hope one day it starts opening up portals to strange places
20:44.55break19considering the fact i've been using pitbull since it hit the svn, and its always had a few issues here and there that ck and the others hadnt spotted yet.. I was making it known that something he did recently, and I would hazard a guess to say it was the splitting it up part. that made it start showing a white box instead of a yellow dot for my combo points
20:46.01vhaarrGagorian: Err, don't fuck up translations please.
20:46.05vhaarrGagorian: Revert Dewdrop.
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20:46.28Gagorianyeah, I noticed it
20:46.30ckknightbreak19: no idea how that could've happened, since the internal structure didn't change...
20:46.58break19ckknight: i know.. but somehow.. heh
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20:47.23break19and I would hazard a guess to say that if I were to put it back into the main addon's folder it'd work fine.. in fact, lemme test that
20:48.28ckknightyea, currently I know a bug in PitBull and now how to fix it
20:48.36ckknightwill be painful but should fix a lot of things overall
20:48.53break19painful to the devs, or painful to the end users? lol
20:48.55ckknightbut I gotta hit lvl 10
20:48.57ckknightpainful to me
20:49.01ckknightand only me
20:49.30Chompersthe druid bug?
20:49.52ckknightno, Chompers
20:49.58ckknightwell, yes
20:50.01ckknightbut it's not a druid bug
20:50.14ckknightbut it is the bug that can happen with druids
20:50.21break19ckknight: yea.. putting it back into the main addon folder fixes the issue....
20:50.49Gngskckknight, will it fix power bar updating on target frame switching in combat?
20:50.59ckknightbreak19: ah, I know the issue, then
20:51.10break19me too
20:51.12break19line 112 :)
20:51.14ckknightGngsk: potentially
20:51.23GngskI'll keep an eye out then
20:51.27ckknightbreak19: yea, it should figure out from the debugstack what the current path is...
20:52.43break19might it be more efficient to do a quick check of the 2 possible locations for the tga, and then set the correct one?
20:52.49ckknightpath = "Interface\\AddOns\\" .. debugstack():match("[O%.][n%.][s%.]\\(.+\\).-%.lua")
20:53.06vhaarrBibi`ouF: "Seriously, get Firefox", haha
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20:53.19ckknighttry that, break19
20:53.24break19is there not a way to do a fileexists under wow's lua?
20:53.24ckknightthen do path .. "thing.tga"
20:53.29break19kk copy/pasting
20:53.36Bibi`ouFvhaarr : my site looks horrible with IE6 :/
20:53.48vhaarrBibi`ouF: I wouldn't know, I've not used IE in years :)
20:53.51Bibi`ouFsame
20:53.58Bibi`ouFbut I tried yesterday, don't remember why
20:54.27Bibi`ouFand basically, what's enough to not show scroll bars with firefox isn't enough with IE
20:54.28Bibi`ouF:p
20:55.08break19combo:SetTexture(path.."\\combo.tga") ?
20:55.23Gagorianvhaarr: Revert it for me plix, I'll fix it with UTF-8.
20:55.38ckknightyes, break19
20:55.41break19kk
20:56.39Pneusomeone remind me what that timer bar addon is called that is better than Sorrens timers pls :)
20:56.50break19kk, reloading wow.
20:57.01vhaarrGagorian: alright
20:58.12AiianePneu: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4803/kharthuss-hunter-timers/ ? if you're just wanting hunter timers
20:58.29CIA-3103rabbit * r33997 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0: Fix locale breakage from Gagorians last commit.
20:58.42break19ckknight: hm, doesnt appear to work..
20:58.54ckknighterrors?
20:59.04break19no
20:59.10PneuAiiane: i use sorrens for all classes, but theres another Ace2 one i think thats better, at least i saw something the other day but i cant for the life of me remember what it was called
20:59.19Aiianedunno about ace2
20:59.20Gagorianvhaarr: You left the change in? mmkay
20:59.22AiianeI prefer NECB
20:59.29break19just not getting any type of combo dot/bar at all unless I change to "bar"
20:59.30vhaarrGagorian: yes, why not?
20:59.32Aiianenatur's enemycastbars
20:59.34Pneuoh, Chronometer perhaps
20:59.49yacoobhm
20:59.51break19lemme try somethin
20:59.59yacoobis there a way to bind key to a stance with bartender?
21:00.57break19weird. now its showing the white bar, even if default is selected.
21:01.05Gagorianvhaarr: Yeah, I guess almost as easy. It's annoying that my main editor isn't proper UTF-8, but I like the program otherwise. I usually use another one for localizations but forgot now.
21:01.39vhaarrGagorian: It's always a good idea to do a diff before committing.
21:01.59GagorianIndeed :l
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21:02.41GngskPneu, cdt2?
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21:03.25Gngskuh, nvm that does something totally different.
21:03.35venyacoob, can't you bind stances via the default key bindings?
21:03.51peanut`anyone know the mod that makes guild/say/yell color coded and simplier?
21:04.26Megalonpeanut`: Prat?
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21:05.36peanut`might be
21:05.39peanut`lemmy install that
21:05.49FinPrat can do that
21:06.02peanut`its the chat text in this screenshot
21:06.03peanut`http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cmermag/claw2.jpg
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21:06.34Megalonyea, that's Prat
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21:06.38peanut`awsome
21:06.41peanut`thanks =]
21:06.45SaisOK. I'm confused. I was getting an error in DewdropLib with FuBar-KillMeterFu is attached to the minimap and had 'tooltip detached' set...but having unset those options and then re-enabled them, it's no longer giving the error. :(
21:06.47FinPrat will do that, but you'll need another mod to change the font
21:06.48Megalonbut no clue if it's also to change the Font
21:07.05peanut`Fin: any idea what mod?
21:07.10Fins/do that/colours chat text like that/
21:07.15Finbah
21:07.18CIA-3103gagorian * r33998 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua:
21:07.18CIA-31.BigWigs_Outland/Magtheridon.lua:
21:07.18CIA-31-Attempt to make initial blast nova timer more accurate
21:07.19Fin-s
21:11.13Punkie`the only thing that will make the chat in that screenshot better
21:11.18Punkie`is if it was good old comic sans ms
21:11.34Finnow you're cooking with gas
21:11.42Pneubring back 1990
21:12.14Finhey, 1990 never went anywhere
21:12.46Finit's alive and kicking
21:12.52Punkie`but seriously
21:12.55Punkie`wtf at that screenie!
21:13.12CIA-3103ckknight * r33999 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - change all (ANSI) degree symbols to \176 and all (ANSI) plus/minus symbols to \177. This should relieve issues with foreigners.
21:13.12Punkie`it has like 3 mods just to display the xp bar!
21:14.20Finredundancy is the key to being secure in your environment
21:14.23peanut`doesnt clearfont2 change the fonts?
21:14.33Punkie`lmao Fin :D
21:14.34Finclearfont2 changes the fonts, not the colours
21:16.03Vangualthe lack of background behind texts makes my eyes bleed
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21:17.04CIA-3103rabbit * r34000 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Don't try to read global 'method'.
21:17.43nymbia34k already O.o
21:17.44Punkie`Vangual, who needs a background when you can do a drop shadow?
21:19.22Vanguali do, shadows or dark outlines still make it it hard to read and locate certain texts depending on whetever is visible behind it
21:19.24break19ckknight: it gets curiouser and curiouser....
21:19.29ckknighthrm?
21:19.37Finbaby jesus
21:19.41Finbaby jesus needs backgrounds
21:19.52Finsee? look, he's crying again
21:20.28Gngskhttp://www.holyfolks.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Detail-BlueRing-Baby-Jesus.gif
21:21.14Vangualthat image could use some background with more contrast to the his white cloth aswell ;>
21:23.01break19ckknight: I copied the saved file back, and just manually modified the path to be "Interface\\AddOns\\PitBull_ComboPoints\\combo.tga" and it still doesnt show
21:24.01break19but it works fine as an included module, just not as a separate addon.. *scratches head*
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21:25.42ckknightfully reboot WoW? could be some weird issue not recognizing the files
21:25.52break19lemme try it
21:26.04break19i'll try anythin at this point
21:26.07break19heh
21:26.12kergothdisabling pitbull party configuration mode while in a party doesnt fix the party member auras
21:26.16kergoththey still have the x's
21:26.28break19..within reason of course lol
21:26.46kergothor rather, it shows their real auras in those slots, but the ones where they have no auras still have x's
21:26.46break19"delete wow and reinstall?" "uhh no" heh
21:27.03kergothalso, pitbull 'square' group mode for party is fucked up when you dont have 4 party members
21:27.48kergothit puts them right in the middle instead of at their proper positions in the square
21:27.51kergothhrm
21:27.54break19ckknight: nope, still no combo dots
21:28.31break19fuck it, I'll just include it in the main addon for now
21:29.54break19in other news.. I feel like I've lost 10lbs... had the wife take the clippers to my head. buzzzzz heh
21:30.16ckknightbreak19: I'll look into it, though
21:30.40break19ckknight: no rush, as long as I know how to fix it when my updater decides to move it back out. :p
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21:32.27break19ckknight: while you're at it, can you have them not be over-written by the cast bar? :)
21:32.42ckknightmmm... no
21:32.49ckknightthat's a layout issue, though
21:33.24Ominousim being really stupid... i cant see a way to simplify this horrible thing, not ((UnitID ~= "player" and UnitName(UnitID) ~= UnitName("player")) or (UnitID ~= "player" and UnitID ~= "target" and UnitName(UnitID) ~= UnitName("target"))), anyone?
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21:33.37EejI haven't played around with Pitbull that much yet, but is it possible to move the castbars to dock on top of the unitframe?
21:33.45vhaarrOminous: UnitIsUnit("player", unitId)
21:34.24break19I use the default one, abf. I dont think it's always overwritten, I could swear before i updated, they were below the frame, not inside it.. but I could be wrong.
21:34.37kergothckknight: who did the square grouping?
21:34.47ckknightnevcairiel
21:34.55kergothEej: with a custom layout, certainly, but i dont think the existing ones let you do that
21:34.58kergothnevcairiel: ping
21:37.36Matrix110btw can it be that SpamSentry delays some whisper messages quite alot? I get sound from ChatSounds of Prat like 5sec before sometimes before the actual message appears and its SpamSentry doing it
21:38.54harldephincan i prevent AllPlayed from adopting the text size setting from the main FuBar somehow ?
21:39.39ckknightdon't think so, harldephin
21:41.20harldephinpity.. i use a text size of 24 for my FuBar and always have to lower AllPlayed's text size then down zu 12 again manually. it's the only add-on where it actually bothers me
21:41.45ckknightwhat's AllPlayed do, anyway?
21:42.25harldephinshowing all chars XP, rested XP and gold (on all realms) in a tooltip
21:42.25Punkie`shows your total playtime
21:42.32harldephinand that, too
21:43.53ckknightI prefer RestFu
21:44.11ckknightdoesn't show money, though. I use MoneyFu for that
21:44.17harldephinheh
21:50.32Pneumoneyfu + restfu here also :)
21:50.59Pneurestfu to remind me how many chars im too lazy to level, and moneyfu to remind me how poor i am
21:51.37Stephmwwow. just loaded up without addons for the first time in months. didn't realise they added so much to the loading time
21:52.00GagorianWeird
21:52.12sedatedChipmunkhehe yea
21:52.27sedatedChipmunkwell, just reloadui
21:52.31ThraeStephmw: Should only add extensively to the initial loading, not instances
21:52.34sedatedChipmunkand that's about how much time it adds
21:52.41Stephmwyeah, just initial load
21:52.55GagorianDewdrop slider is still working a bit bizzare. The value set by SetValue is different than the one received through GetValue right after SetValue.
21:54.05kergothand it still vanishes sometimes while typing into the input box :(
21:54.16kergothi think its when you input something, hit enter, then input something again.. then it vanishes
21:54.25Finis GuildFu broken?
21:54.59nevcairielkergoth: ?
21:55.12Gagoriankergoth: Yeah, that's weird
21:55.56kergothnevcairiel: the square grouping acts oddly when the group isnt full.. at least, it acts oddly to me.  the first and second group members are positioned in the middle of the square, instead of at the positions you configured in pitbull's config mode
21:55.58kergothand depending on how you arranged your party pet and party targets, that means they dont line up properly as well
21:56.03nevcairielhrm
21:56.09nevcairieli might know why
21:56.14nevcairielwonder if i can fix tha
21:56.49nevcairieli guess the header is anchord on "center", and when it expands, moves to both sides.
21:57.07kergothah, hmm
21:58.31TecnoBrathmmm time to see what my total playtime on all of my chars is
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22:02.16nevcairielkergoth: i will see what i can when we finished karazhan
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22:04.14nevcairiel+do
22:04.25nevcairielchatting while healing ftl
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22:06.24unduHmmmmm, any possibility of having a numerical combo point toggle with settings for font size, color, offset etc?
22:11.06CIA-3103ckknight * r34001 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua):
22:11.06CIA-31Cartographer - switch to current zone when map is not shown and user changes zones
22:11.06CIA-31Cartographer_Waypoints - potentially fix issues with waypoint times being way off.
22:11.22harldephinhehe
22:14.58kergothnevcairiel: thanks
22:15.21CIA-3103nymbia * r34002 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua:
22:15.21CIA-31PitBull_Aura:
22:15.21CIA-31- Throttle aura updates for wacky units to twice a second.
22:15.21CIA-31- Increase bucket delay for UNIT_AURA to a quarter second.
22:16.09ckknightnymbia: one thing is that :UpdateFrame is called every 0.15 seconds
22:16.16ckknightdoes it not respond to that now or what?
22:16.56nymbiackknight: still responds, but doesnt call the aura update if it's a wacky frame and it's been < 0.5 seconds since the last time it called the aura update
22:17.13ckknightah, okay
22:17.33ckknightwell, I've almost got my bear form
22:17.42ckknightonce I get that, I'll fix some bugs
22:17.47nymbiaooh nice
22:18.53HjalteI was thinking, it really annoys me in Cartographer that when i look at an instance map for loot for example and fly and then switch zone the map changes. What about making an option that if you look at an instance map, the map wont toggle to another map?
22:19.16vhaarr"Lock"?
22:19.55CIA-3103nymbia * r34003 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua:
22:19.55CIA-31PitBull_Aura:
22:19.55CIA-31- Local references to select and unpack
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22:21.27Hjaltevhaarr, ah, it does that? :P
22:21.36vhaarrHjalte: I don't know, maybe.
22:22.25ckknightHjalte: that's a bug.
22:22.26[FH]Birdemanihello, getting an error on statlogiclib - bad argument #1 to 'strfind' (string expected, got table) line 6285
22:22.40Finevery map addon does that
22:22.48Fin(that I've tried)
22:23.35NightHawkTheSaneHjalte: I use atlasloot for that reason :P
22:24.06HjalteNightHawkTheSane, I'm trying to use Cartographer instead of atlasloot :)
22:24.17abyssichate[FH]Birdemani: I am getting the same
22:24.24nymbiagenerally, it's another addon changing the zone
22:24.39NightHawkTheSane*shrug* For just looking at loot, i think AtlasLoot is better, personally, but thats me.
22:26.28Hjaltenymbia, but I was told once it is blizzard behaviour?
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22:28.57ckknightalright, got my bear form
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22:36.58Ominousright i cant get this to work i need a line of code which returns true if the name of UnitID is the same as Name of Player but UnitID is not player and also name of UnitID is the same as target but UnitID is not target
22:37.58Nargiddleyname is the same or they are the same unit ?
22:38.45JoshBorkeUnitIsUnit(<unit1>,<unit2>)?
22:38.52CIA-3103fin * r34005 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: Prat: fixed missing nil check removed from last Alias update
22:39.03JoshBorkebecause hunters can have pets with the same name as the player
22:39.17ckknightif UnitName("player") == UnitName(unit) and not UnitIsUnit("player", unit) and not UnitIsUnit("target", unit) then
22:39.21ckknightor something
22:40.55Ominousif you have focus on mob 1 and target mob 2 and they have the same name will UnitIsUnit("target", "focus") return true or false
22:41.25Nargiddleyonly if they are the same unit, name doesnt matter
22:41.50Funkeh`shieldb: ping
22:42.03Funkeh`shieldb: clear all collosus timers on karathress death
22:42.40JoshBorkeOminous: test it, but i'm guessing false, since they aren't the same unit
22:43.17Ominousok i meant to say, thanks for the reminder nargiddley,... if UnitID is the same unit as player but unitID is not player and also UnitID is the same Unit  as target but UnitID is not target
22:43.56shieldbFunkeh`, karathress controls all the colossi timers for the zone?
22:44.09ckknightOminous: dude, UnitIsUnit
22:44.10shieldbor just the ones near him?
22:44.22Nargiddleyunitid ~= 'player' and UnitIsUnit(unitid,'player')
22:44.32ckknightyea, that's it
22:45.04Funkeh`shieldb: the ones near him
22:45.05CIA-3103fin * r34006 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: added /alt guildimport - checks the guild roster member alts to link to mains (matches members with rank "alt" or "alts", and members with public or officer's notes like "<name>'s alt")
22:45.08Funkeh`shieldb: but it doesn't matter
22:45.33Funkeh`shieldb: the way the instance is, you can safely clear any coloosus timer on his death
22:45.51vhaarrOminous: Dude, I just told you about UnitIsUnit like 2 hours ago.
22:46.01shieldbyeah, I was mainly curious as to if he shut off all colossi spawns for the zone or not
22:46.35Funkeh`shieldb: nah, theres cllosus at other places
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22:48.28Ominousvhaarr: i have been trying but havent got it to work, hence i asked
22:52.00evl...
22:52.05evlafter I started running PitBull
22:52.21evlI'm getting so much 132 I feel like I'm rolling 1d20 for crash/nocrash
22:52.36[FH]Birdemanipitbull was doing something wierd to me earlier  if i changed an option it made the frame nearly transparent
22:52.46[FH]Birdemaniesp if i changed the buff options
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22:52.58nymbiaevl: when are you crashin
22:53.14evlnow? entering AB
22:53.17evlI got a screen
22:53.53Sarozcool Fin
22:54.28evlnymbia: http://i14.tinypic.com/4bhr9ll.jpg
22:54.49evlor "Roll 1d20 and risk -rating"
22:54.53ckknightlisten, I'm on it.
22:54.58ckknightnow stop bitching
22:55.12ckknightit's more annoying than helpful
22:55.12FinSaroz: I've been meaning to add it for ages, just haven't had a guild to test with :)
22:55.19evlYeah sorry :/
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22:55.29Finhehe, yeah, stop bitching :P
22:55.36NightHawkTheSaneevl: you roll a dice pool equal to you're computer's Hardness rating, Target Value 6 +Pitbull's Complexity Rating (12) ;)
22:55.55Finyou're like a - ahaha - lost puppy
22:56.19Ziconnighthawkthesane: Thank you. You just broke my brain.
22:56.36NightHawkTheSaneZicon: my pleasure.
22:57.19evlckknight: also having some problems with healthbar colors and class colors not updating when roster is updated
22:57.24ckknightdude
22:57.26ckknightI'm fucking on it
22:57.30ckknightit's the same issue
22:57.41ckknightnow stop fucking bothering me
22:58.14Finckknight: sure you're not barking up the wrong tree?
22:58.41Fin*a tish boom!*
22:58.47Fingod, I slay myself, I really do
22:59.05nymbia~whaleslap Fin
22:59.10purlACTION beats Fin upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
22:59.17nymbia~whalenametheft Fin
22:59.20purlACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) kicks Fin's ass and steals his/her name. The now anonymous target weeps.
22:59.40Thrae"Fin" is a good name for a whale
22:59.52nymbiaindeed
23:00.04chutwig~roulette
23:00.06purlACTION watches chutwig pull the trigger:  Click!
23:00.12chutwigagain!
23:00.14chutwig~roulette
23:00.16purlACTION watches chutwig pull the trigger:  Click!
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23:00.21chutwighohoho
23:00.26FinI tried to get my guild members to call me "Sharkey" once... didn't stick
23:00.39chutwig~roulette
23:00.41purlACTION watches chutwig pull the trigger:  Click!
23:01.27packetls1~roulette
23:01.29purlACTION watches packetls1 pull the trigger:  Click!
23:01.42Finfive quid you're dead next round
23:01.54packetlss~roulette
23:01.56purlACTION watches packetlss pull the trigger:  BANG!
23:02.01packetlssOUCH
23:02.11chutwigbam
23:02.34NightHawkTheSanewow, that sucks. Not only are you dead, but you owe Fin.
23:02.34chutwigbezahlen!
23:02.53Fin!
23:03.09Finthat looks suspiciously like Czech
23:03.20chutwignein
23:03.43ZiconGerman looks like Czech? That's a new one.
23:03.52Megalonhm
23:04.04Finwell... that particular *word* looks like Czech...
23:04.20FinI'm not sure you can extrapolate that to the entire language
23:04.21chutwigthe only czech word i know is storno
23:04.25Finstop!
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23:04.30Gngskis it still possible to increase combat log range using a cVar?
23:04.32VII-Beherithi there+
23:04.33chutwigit was on a ticket vending machine in vienna
23:04.38FinGngsk: yes
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23:04.46Finor cancel :)
23:04.50chutwigwhy they couldn't have put "abbrechen" instead
23:04.56chutwigi don't really know
23:04.57Gngskfin, which var and what value?
23:05.06VII-Beheritcan anyone explain me why wau doenst work on my laptop. but on my normal pc. laptop just says "retrievin addon list"
23:05.11FinGngsk: dunno, but oTweaks fiddles with those values, have a look at it
23:05.17Gngskk, thx
23:05.59CIA-3103shieldb * r34007 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc): Incubator: Fathom-Lord Karathress now shuts off any running Underbog Colossus timers when he dies.
23:06.23Fingodammit
23:06.38Finthat's twice I've attacked the alliance gryphon guy
23:07.01chutwigzweimal unerfolgreich angegriffen!
23:07.04FinHorde... I'm Horde...
23:07.27MorghusFin: I feel with you :(
23:07.31VII-Beheritany idea with wau?
23:07.32Gagorianckknight: Is it intended that the values in dewdrop are only saved if the scrolling happens exactly over the slider bar? If I scroll in the frame, the values change but aren't saved.
23:07.48chutwigVII-Beherit: you sure there isn't something running on the laptop blocking the outbound connection?
23:07.49ckknightthat shouldn't be
23:08.20VII-Beheritmhm just the normal windows thing where it asks if i wanna block
23:08.25VII-Beheritbut it hasnt asked me yet
23:08.33GagorianIt's like that at least with values that require the change I did earlier.. And the text box entered values aren't saved at all
23:10.29VII-Beheritwhat was the console command vor checking the connections to the web by program
23:10.30VII-Beheritnet...?
23:10.57chutwignetstat
23:10.59Sarozlol
23:11.05Sarozalt names is making an error now
23:11.24Sarozutil.lua:411: attempt to perform arithimatic on local r (a nil value)
23:12.26Gagorianckknight: It's weird.. I scroll the value to something else, then check via console commands and the value is correct. I exit the slider frame and return, then the value is the same old value
23:12.56GagorianIt's already changed, but exiting the tooltip changes it back.. unless mouse has been hovered over slider.
23:12.57ckknightwell, I neither know nor care a great deal
23:13.04kaidensomething is seriously wrong with the combo point system in the latest pitbull revision :P
23:13.32Gagorianckknight: Well, it makes some dewdrop sliders unusable so it would be nice to find a solution.
23:13.35kaidenwhen default texture is chosen combo points dont show up, you switch to bar and it shows up, switch back to default and the bar texture still shows
23:13.46ckknightGagorian: feel free to look for yourself, I'm busy
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23:21.06CIA-3103saroz * r34008 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: AltNames: Add "Officer alt" pattern and make variables local so they don't pollute the global scope
23:21.44Saroz:p
23:21.49Fincould've sworn I'd localised stuff
23:22.02Finand, nice one on the "Officer alt" thing, didn't think of that\
23:22.14nymbialocals are for chumps
23:22.20nymbiaglobals are where it's at
23:22.37FinI want to make it so that it builds a list of all the guild members, then checks each member's public & officer notes to see if it's an exact match against an existing member, cos some guilds do it that way
23:22.48Sarozye
23:23.06SarozWell it's working fine
23:23.07Finor just an some options for how to import
23:23.17Fingreat!
23:23.36SarozJust make the pattern an option, if you have to
23:23.38FinI'm such a newbie to lua
23:23.48Sarozhowever, we just use the name of the main as note, so I don't really care
23:23.56SarozSaved me from entering 117 names
23:23.56Sarozgg
23:24.11Finnice!
23:24.51Sarozwould be nice with a IsGuildMember() check on the name of the main though
23:24.52Sarozbut meh
23:25.26FinI haven't had much feedback about it, and I was looking for an addon with the same functionality for such a long time, it felt like noone else thought it would be useful :) it's nice to hear I'm not the only person who finds it useful
23:25.30Finwell
23:26.42FinI thought of that, it's just a lot of guilds don't use the exact name (most of my officers couldn't even spell), and I figured people wouldn't mind seeing "Paladinaroz (Sar)" (eg, someone's common nickname)
23:27.04Finif you know what I mean
23:27.15Sarozmeh
23:27.23Sarozfuck those :p
23:27.32Finhehe
23:27.42CIA-3103nymbia * r34009 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua:
23:27.42CIA-31PitBull_Spark:
23:27.42CIA-31- Maybe fix a nil error. I'd know for sure if it was fixed if people bothered giving decent bug reports on the forum thread. :p
23:28.28Gagorianckknight: I think I solved it
23:28.33Finalso I'm currently in an guild which is (at the moment) just a parking spot for alts
23:28.34ckknightyay
23:28.45Gagorianthe OnEnter and OnLeave functions were set for the slider and not the dewdrop slider frame
23:28.49ckknightI'm fixing all of PitBull :-P
23:28.53ckknightah, alright
23:28.56Fingrats ckknight!
23:29.03ckknightwell, theoretically
23:29.11ckknightbasically, :GetUnitFrame was flawed
23:29.31Sarozbuuuh
23:32.36Saroz*cough* suckup *cough*
23:32.38Finoh dear I can't stop laughing
23:33.05Findude! it was just an excuse for a class pun! :)
23:33.12Findogged perseverance!
23:33.38ckknightdon't make me lay the smackdown
23:34.40Finaw, I wouldn't worry, ckknight's bark is worse than his bite
23:34.42Finahaha
23:35.14Finboom! 10 points!
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23:35.29Finoh dear I'm sorry
23:36.05*** kick/#wowace [Fin!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (life's a bitch)
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23:36.19Finhahahahahah
23:36.19Sarozawww
23:36.35Finbrilliant
23:36.41Finor should I say ace
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23:38.11nymbia~literal Fin
23:38.17purl"fin" is "Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/.  Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors, or known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl?"
23:38.31nymbiabah
23:38.34FinI better be quiet... guess I'm in the doghouse
23:38.42CIA-3103gagorian * r34010 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:
23:38.42CIA-31DewdropLib:
23:38.42CIA-31-Changed the slider OnEnter and OnLeave functions to the slider dewdrop frame. Should allow editbox and mouse scrolled changes to save properly.
23:38.52ckknightthanks, Gagorian
23:39.00hyperChipmunknicely done
23:39.10ckknight~pgl
23:39.25Finhey... no stalking
23:39.44Fin:)
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23:40.30FinFreedom to Innervate... my druid's only level 26 though...
23:40.31VII-Beheritwtf have they changed somethin on heroic darkweaver syth?
23:40.46VII-Beheritkarazahn and 25er inst equipped ppl
23:40.53VII-Beheritand they nuke us down like LOL
23:41.03VII-Beheritlast time it was easy crap
23:41.43SarozQQ
23:41.53vodrinthat the one with the elemental adds?
23:41.57VII-Beherityeah
23:41.59Finliteral gets "raw factoid contents"?
23:42.04Sarozno man
23:42.05VII-Beheritlast kill just max dmg on boss
23:42.05Sarozit's easy
23:42.08Sarozkilled it last night
23:42.12VII-Beheritnow we wipe at 30%
23:42.13Sarozkill a few adds first
23:42.15Sarozthen pwn boss
23:42.18Sarozeasy as fucking piss
23:42.19VII-Beheriti am gettin crzy
23:42.27VII-Beheritthats what i thought to
23:42.27Sarozkill 2 waves of adds
23:42.35Sarozand it's soo easy
23:42.37shieldbthe adds show up every 30% or somesuch, we usually just kill the first two waves then AOE fear the third
23:42.40shieldbeasy loot
23:42.48Sarozbingo
23:42.49VII-Beheritdo the adds spawn at % or after time
23:42.53shieldb%
23:42.55Saroz%
23:42.57malifaefor the record, pitbull is incredible, thanks guys~
23:43.01vodrinwe just press heroism.. howl of terror / physic scream
23:43.02vodrinnuke
23:43.06Saroznah
23:43.25Fin(got to go see a man about a dog ahahahah)
23:43.30Finl
23:43.31vodrinbut yeah its best of killing the spawns =o
23:43.31Fin-l
23:44.06ckknight~fin--

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