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00:00.24kenlyricbut, thanks for the tip.. I'll use that for now.
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00:01.10vhaarrSaroz: first impression of sRF is pretty good :) while PitBulls CPU time has increased x10 since login, sRF hasn't even doubled.
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00:01.24GarounI like the new updates Ck, ltb being able to use a different font size for buffs ;)
00:01.31kenlyricgridgridgridgridgrid
00:01.52KilrooHm...I'll try one of those, probably.
00:01.55pastamancerkenlyric: hi
00:02.31kergothvhaarr, pitbull's cpu time x10, thats for pitbull's raid frames?
00:02.35ckknightGaroun: I have a paypal account if you're looking to buy...
00:02.42Garoun:)
00:03.02vhaarrkergoth: yes, just idling inside BT on PTR, not doing anything, with 3 raid members
00:03.03TecnoBrathmmm
00:03.11vhaarrboth of them offline
00:03.14vhaarrerr
00:03.18vhaarrthe other 2, that is
00:03.19kergothsheesh
00:03.30kergothwell, i use grid, so it wont affect me, but still, thats a bit much
00:04.09vhaarrkergoth: well it's not as bad as it sounds, even if it's x10, PitBull is still only at ~1.5sec CPU time
00:04.18vhaarrI've idled for at least 20min
00:04.49Gnarfoz_ckknight: http://wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua?order=name#L280 <-- looks like it's somewhere there (too tired to keep my eyes open, let alone figure this out entirely, but color-highlighted file compare points me that way ;)) - the +1 for the spacing is only in ABF.portrait (now)
00:04.52vhaarragUF and sRF hasn't used nearly as much, however
00:05.17vhaarrSaroz: sRF is at 200ms and was at around 120 after login.
00:05.19Gnarfoz_actually it's "there but nowhere else" not "there"
00:05.52sylvanaaranyone tried running the PTR version of Prat on live?
00:05.53ckknightbtw, hyperChipmunk, I leveled a hunter to 10 and I can tell you that [happycolor] works for me
00:06.05KilrooYet Another Question time... I can't think of a better way to ask this one than to ask if anyone knows of a better option for a rogue who wants to know which pigsticker will get higher ambush damage: http://wow-es.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/3192/advanced-weapon-stats/
00:06.34Thraesylvanaar: Wouldn't that be a silly thing to do?
00:06.55kenlyricso, there's a pitbull_interactlines... that's sexy.
00:07.02sylvanaarThrae no, not really, the only think specific to the ptr is the embedded profiling
00:09.27pastamancersylvanaar: I added the decimal versions to latest.txt
00:09.30pastamancersylvanaar: please test
00:09.31Sarozvhaarr \o/
00:10.05vhaarrSaroz: that doesn't mean there's no cleanup work to do, but they're all pretty minor
00:10.14vhaarrSaroz: are you on the PTR yourself?
00:10.31sylvanaarpastamancer kk
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00:12.18sylvanaarpastamancer is it on files now? do any of em have .X versions?
00:12.54pastamanceryes
00:13.01pastamanceron both
00:13.16kenlyricab_uf was at like .27 last i looked.
00:13.35pastamancerGrid is on .35
00:13.42Chompershahaaha
00:13.56Chomperswow, something thats stunned me..on the internet
00:13.58kenlyricdefnitely need to add grid_interactlines ;)
00:14.03sylvanaarpastamancer yeah, it works
00:14.04kenlyricChompers: lies
00:14.07Chompersprepare yourselves:
00:14.10Chompershttp://gotcum.blogspot.com/
00:14.30Chompersthis beasts goatse in pure "what the FUCK" points
00:14.33pastamancersylvanaar: ok, hopefully that'll get people to shut up
00:14.33Chompers*beats
00:15.19kenlyricthat may be the most perfect execution I've ever seen :)
00:15.23sylvanaarpastamancer er wait one sec
00:16.05pastamancerthe changelog file names won't change until a new zip is created
00:17.11kenlyricChompers... some of these are just the wrong colors. These guys might need to go to doctors.
00:17.17vhaarrChompers: dude
00:17.20sylvanaarhmm, i forget how we handle the .X numbers re: the changelog
00:17.55kaidenChompers, so sick lol
00:18.06kaidenyet at the same time, oddly funny
00:18.51kenlyrickaiden: and thus, the perfect goatse....
00:18.54sylvanaarpastamancer will the changelog versions have .X in them?
00:19.07kenlyricit's disarming too, because it looks just like every other blog on the planet.
00:19.14pastamancerlet me double-check
00:19.19KilrooOk, I think this may in fact be my last question until I'm actually ready to start testing stuff...I have used OneBag for -ages-, and before that something similar to it (although I don't think it was AllInOneInventory). If I am intrigued enough by something like Baggins that sorts stuff into categories to want to try such a thing, does anyone care to recommend one to me?
00:19.37Chompersits less shocking, more horrifying
00:20.00pastamancersylvanaar: probably not
00:20.06kenlyriconebag and baggins are both good, you can use them together.
00:20.12pastamanceroh wait
00:20.18ThraeKilroo: Automatic sorting bag addons can easily be laggy, use MrPlow, which does a manual sort and is compatible with any One Frame Bag mod
00:20.20kaidenKilroo, personally to use them you sacrifice screen real estate for a bit of organization
00:20.42pastamancerchangelog-rVERSION.XX.txt and Changelg-AddonName-rVERSION.xml
00:20.47kenlyricexcept mrplow isn't exactly fulll of options when it comes to sorting.
00:20.55kenlyricI personally use mrplow.
00:21.37Ziconkilroo: I'd recommend ... Baggins. It's pure inventory love.
00:21.40Thraekenlyric: True, but it's what most people really want out of a bag sorter
00:21.52vhaarrIt doesn't need options, as far as I'm concerned.
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00:22.23pastamancersylvanaar: let me know which format WAU is expecting
00:22.41vhaarrThrae: Will you be updating Tinytip for 2.1? It seems Blizzard added guild name display by default.
00:22.50sylvanaarpastamancer the same as the xml version of the changelog bug with the .X
00:23.27pastamancerso Changelog-AddonName-rVERSION.XX.xml?
00:23.59KilrooIdeally, what I really want out of a bag sorter is for my stuff to be clumped together, probably roughly by the default categories in Baggins. Perhaps with an extra, manually assigned category of "What the heck is this for?"
00:24.02Thraevhaarr: Yes and no. I'm still working on a recode of TinyTip. Not sure if it'll be out by 2.1, I hope it will.
00:24.04sylvanaarthe .X only needs to be in the with externals zips, yeah, it should match the zip
00:24.16vhaarrThrae: oh
00:24.58CIA-1103ckknight * r33551 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
00:24.58CIA-11DogTag-1.0 - bugfixing
00:24.58CIA-11- added a negation operator to modifiers and tags, which for tags will turn
00:24.58CIA-11blank into 'true' and non-blank into blank. For modifiers, it will turn blank
00:24.58CIA-11into the previous value (which in and of itself is non-blank) and non-blank into
00:24.59CIA-11blank.
00:25.05KilrooI'll probably just try Baggins and MrPlow and see which I like better.
00:25.52pastamancersylvanaar: and just to be absolutely certain, it's looking at the .xml file?
00:25.54KilrooCan't recall what addon it was that I saw that looked sort of like Baggins except all the category segments were inside one big frame. Probably not an improvement though.
00:25.59sylvanaarpastamancer Changelog-{2}-r{1}.txt, where {2} is the addon name, and {1} is whats in latest.txt
00:26.09pastamanceroh
00:26.10sylvanaarpastamancer it looks at the txt file
00:26.11pastamancerok
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00:26.28CIA-1103ckknight * r33552 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - when antialiasing, turn a double-negate (~~) into nothing
00:28.37KilrooThat's a lot.
00:28.53sylvanaarpastamancer yeah, those 2 things will solve most peoples complaints
00:28.56Sarozvhaarr, no, got EU x-fer to both servers though
00:29.15pastamancersylvanaar: changelog-rVERSION.txt was 1.6?
00:29.26sylvanaarpastamancer yes
00:29.43KilrooGranted, some of these are "which am I gonna want to use" but this is still more addons than I used to have...and I used to have about 50. Hehe.
00:30.36ThraeIt's not about the number of "addons" you have, it's about the number of BIG addons you have which can cause problems ;)
00:30.43CIA-1103ckknight * r33553 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
00:30.43CIA-11DogTag-1.0 - replaced isgreater with an alias for ~islessequal
00:30.43CIA-11- replaced isgreaterequal with an alias for ~isless
00:30.43CIA-11- replaced isnotequal with an alias for ~isequal
00:30.43CIA-11- replaced the hide modifiers with simplified ~is*
00:30.58pastamancersylvanaar: ok, check DogTag-1.0 in 10 minutes
00:31.04KilrooOh, I know. Most of these are pretty small I think.
00:31.24chutwigmy pitbull frame text isn't updating any more :(
00:31.29chutwigat least the bars still work!
00:31.30Gnarfoz_ckknight: I'm confused... frame.castBar:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", frame, "BOTTOMLEFT", height, 0) <-- the height is actually controlling the width? o_O
00:31.50ckknightGnarfoz_: because to the left of it is castBarIcon
00:31.56ckknightwhich is square
00:31.59Gnarfoz_hrm
00:32.10ThraeGnarfoz_: That's not related to width, that's just an anchor point
00:32.15Gnarfoz_so where is the actual height set? :<
00:32.28KilrooCrap, time to reboot again
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00:33.59ckknightGnarfoz_: local height = =whatever
00:34.17Gnarfoz_frame.castBar:SetHeight( height-1 ) seems to work :>
00:35.19ThraeWhy would you need to subtract 1 from the height, if that's what used in SetHeight
00:35.36ckknightGnarfoz_: that could do it, then
00:36.38Gnarfoz_Thrae: ? SetHeight is fed "height" normally, now it's fed "height -1" because I'm trying to fix this: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/pitbull/castbar_height2.jpg
00:36.56ThraeAhh, OK.
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00:38.06kergothdoes aloft use dogtag or something custom?
00:38.36Gnarfoz_saw "AloftTag" in the changelogs some days ago
00:38.39Gnarfoz_so I guess custom
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00:39.13Megaloni think alofttag is the module that displays things like
00:39.14Gnarfoz_(which I guess makes sense, since Nameplates are not unitframes and not that much information is available)
00:39.18MegalonBanker, Quartermaster etc
00:39.20Megalonfor npcs
00:40.34kergothi need to do something, i love aloft, but its nameplates are so unobtrusive that in the thick of it i'm having a hard time identifying the mob with the lowest health, to determine what i should be killing, as a rogue
00:40.46kergothmaybe use a border, or brighten the colors or something
00:42.06Gnarfoz_hm
00:43.14Gnarfoz_you mean add a border at low health?
00:43.14Megalonhm, would be nice if, for mobs, the healthbar would change it's color
00:43.14kergothperhaps, i dunno.  i know theres some sort of 'damaged' indicator, maybe i should enable taht
00:43.14Megalonor something like that
00:43.14CIA-1103ckknight * r33554 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
00:43.14CIA-11DogTag-1.0 - add statuscolor and happycolor as modifiers.
00:43.15CIA-11- make the xp functions work for unit=pet.
00:43.46Gnarfoz_kergoth: that just marks enemies you recently damaged, regardless of their HP
00:45.24kergothonly mobs -the player- has recently damaged? not anyone?
00:46.19Gnarfoz_actually, I haven't tried it recently, but I don't know if information on anyones else doings is available
00:46.35Gnarfoz_(seeing that nameplates don't refer to a unit, afaik)
00:47.07Gnarfoz_I wonder how this was solved before, now the castbar seems quite "small" -.-
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00:48.36kergothas a melee dps class, the main use of the nameplates is 1) nameplate casting bars, so i can kick, and 2) identifying the target i should be on, if people arent marking with raid icons
00:48.39kergothfor me, anyway
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00:53.12pastamancersylvanaar: check PitBull's changelog
00:55.41Gnarfoz_damn I hate modular addons ;D I can't find shit in there :<
00:55.52kergothgrep is your friend
00:56.05Gnarfoz_(using it)
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00:56.13Gnarfoz_or rather a graphical representation of it :\
00:56.52ckknightlol, Gnarfoz_
00:56.56ckknightwhat are you looking for?
00:57.09Gnarfoz_castbar's background color
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00:57.24Gnarfoz_found it, line 437 in CastBar.lua
00:57.39Gnarfoz_but... it's transparent? oO
00:58.28Gnarfoz_I set it to bright pink just to make sure I don't miss it - no pink, just the progressing cast bar :>
01:00.51ckknightcould be hidden or something
01:00.58Gnarfoz_yeah, trying to figure it out :D
01:01.21pastamancerbah, anyone else unable to connect to the login servers?
01:01.22Gnarfoz_I was just flipping back and forth between a screenshot from yesterday and now and noticed the background being... absent
01:01.52pastamancertraceroute dies somewhere in AT&T's network
01:02.20TecnoBratmy son is a true canadian ... hockey game comes on "HOCKEY YA!!" he just turned 2, lol
01:03.21ckknightI hope to have an experience like that one day, have the son come out, see some bombs falling on TV and shout "OIL YA!"
01:03.22CIA-1103sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33555 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat.lua: Prat: Updated to run on live
01:03.32TecnoBratROFL ...
01:03.46ckknighta true American.
01:03.48ckknight:-P
01:04.30kenlyricbombs dropping down, overhead...
01:05.21Chompersisnt it "hockey eh!"
01:05.31Gnarfoz_frame.castBar.bg = castBarBG <-- this is not "copy castBarBG to frame.castBar.bg", this is "make them the same thing", right?
01:09.21sylvanaarpastamancer looks right, im testing
01:14.49chutwigyay mag down
01:15.24vhaarrdamn Doomwalker, camping the BT entrance on PTR :p
01:15.30vhaarrchutwig: grats
01:16.39ulicdoes mag still equal magmadar?  or has it transitioned to something else?
01:17.26Megalonmagtheridon
01:17.50ulicfigured he wasn't excited about killing magmadar, but who knows. :)
01:19.29chutwigyeah
01:19.33chutwigdidn't drop my trinket though
01:19.35chutwigso uncaring!
01:19.44vodrineye of magmadar?
01:20.07chutwigeye of time-to-remove-all-your-hit
01:20.11kenlyricto get into SSC, you only need to kill nightbane and gruul?
01:20.17vodrinyep
01:20.30kenlyricI wonder what the hell is wrong on my server.
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01:20.58Gnarfoz_no need to kill mag for SSC? oO
01:21.08Gngskmag is for TK key
01:21.11vodrinmag for TK: eye
01:21.17kenlyricGngsk: what's wrong on our server?
01:21.18vodrinafter the trial quests
01:21.23Gngskkenlyric, nothing?
01:21.34chutwigyeah
01:21.37kenlyricwhy no SSC bosses dead? Did George die?
01:21.41chutwignow i need to do those annoying heroic quests
01:21.57Gngskdosi has gone in there
01:21.59Vordaanyone knows of a way to increase your tooltip opacity? Mine are too transparent to my liking.
01:22.02Gngskthey're waiting for the nerfs, as usual
01:24.05CIA-1103ckknight * r33556 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix codeToEventList, which should make tags update properly again.
01:24.17VordaSecond question: I think I remember something about an addon that increased your zoom out range, but cant seem to find it anymore. Anyone able to help?
01:24.52pastamanceroTweaks
01:24.56pastamancer~haste
01:25.00purla very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
01:25.17pastamancerfuxsake.net
01:25.32VordaCant seem to find oTweaks on wowac
01:25.34Vordanvm
01:25.38Vorda<3 pastamancer
01:27.12CIA-1103ckknight * r33557 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove debug line
01:27.40sylvanaarpastamancer changes logs still dont work, and i hvae to update my compiler for vista, but updating works fine
01:29.27pastamancersylvanaar: I see Pitbull/Changelog-Pitbull-r22549.1.txt in PitBull-r22549.1.zip
01:29.35pastamancersylvanaar: tell me what's not right about that
01:30.26sylvanaarpastamancer nothing, either its a bug in wau, or wau is flooring the version and trying to get it from the r22549 zip
01:30.45vodrin/console set cameraDistanceMax 50
01:31.19sylvanaarpastamancer i was trying to load my compiler to see, but its being a pita re my upgrade to vista
01:32.33pastamancersylvanaar: where can I find the source?
01:33.32Vordahmm, any castingbar replacement that adds spell rank to the castbar?
01:34.30sylvanaarpastamancer sourceforge
01:34.35pastamancerfound it
01:35.30sylvanaarvista wont let me access my temp directory to see what wau downloaded either
01:35.37pastamancerlol
01:35.48vhaarrhaha
01:37.50Gnarfoz_vista ftl tbh :<
01:38.01vhaarrs/vista/windows/
01:38.37CIA-1103ulic * r33558 10LittleWigs/ (14 files in 4 dirs):
01:38.37CIA-11LittleWigs:
01:38.38CIA-11- Capatious: Added Polarity Shift Warning
01:38.38CIA-11- Added Gatewatcher Iron-Hand
01:38.38CIA-11- Added Pathaleon
01:38.38CIA-11- Added Darkweaver Syth
01:38.40CIA-11- Shortened a few strings in others
01:38.51Gnarfoz_vhaarr: nah. :P
01:38.56vhaarryah
01:39.00vhaarrulic: sweet
01:39.20ulicvhaarr: took me a while, but I think I got those guys pretty well.
01:39.25vhaarr:)
01:39.26Gnarfoz_I'm too tired to get a flamewar rolling now :p
01:39.29vhaarrI'll check out the diff
01:39.58ulicdon't have the polarity warnings like Thad just yet, but at least have the basic announce that he's casting it, maybe I'll get that tomorrow.
01:40.17ulicfigure at least the warning is better than nothing
01:40.18vhaarrah
01:40.22vhaarrindeed
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01:40.28sylvanaarvhaarr itd be the same on linux, but there would be no help to read
01:41.05vhaarrsylvanaar: So you're saying Linux would hide my own /tmp files from me?
01:42.14ulicif the files are actually created by the user they shouldn't be, but the binary that made them was run as another user then they might be
01:42.26ulic+if
01:42.42vhaarrulic: Pathaleon's adds despawn at some point, right?
01:42.51vodrinright
01:43.36ulichmm, I thought from the combat log it looked like they were killed perhaps I'm mistaken, lemme look at the log again.
01:44.20vhaarrulic: No, you can kill them, but it's a waste of time.
01:44.20Megalonwhen pathaleon is at 20%
01:44.20vhaarrBetter to ignore them and go for the boss.
01:44.20Megalonall his adds despawn
01:44.23vhaarr20%, right
01:44.24Megalonand he switches his weapon to
01:44.26Megalonthe might
01:44.30MegalonFINKLE'S LAVA DREDGER
01:44.31Megalon:D
01:44.34vhaarr:o
01:44.51ulicok, vhaarr, that was just a general question as to whether they did, or you wanted something done about it?
01:45.02sylvanaargot that was gay, i cant get the directory for Local Settings, but i can for any subdirectory of it
01:45.21ulicyea in the logs I have, there are Wraith dies. messages 8 seconds before Pathaleon dies.
01:45.55ulicdo they only spawn the one time?  I think that's what you're getting at right?
01:46.00vhaarrno
01:46.04vhaarrThey spawn contiously.
01:46.22vhaarrulic: There are several examples of modules that react to UNIT_HEALTH for specific %'s of the boss' health.
01:46.34Megalonhm
01:46.40sylvanaarpastamancer i think its working, just i need a test case where the rNNNN and rNNNN.X zips both have valid change logs
01:46.50Megaloncouldn't you check panthaleon's health
01:46.51pastamancersylvanaar: Pitbull ?
01:46.58vhaarrMegalon: thanks, that's what I just said.
01:47.04Megalonon like every mana wraith dying?
01:47.11Megalonto check if it's the 20%
01:47.11vhaarrulic: Check out Huhuran, for example.
01:47.21pastamancersylvanaar: anything that hasn't been updated recently will still have the old filenames
01:47.51vhaarrulic: Basically, you check if UnitHealth(msg) < 25 and > 20, and warn "Adds despawn soon!" or somesuch.
01:48.06ckknighthttp://fukung.net/images/711/rotsnake.gif
01:48.44ulicoh, so you'd like an additional warning message about the despawn, go it.
01:48.50ulicI'll add that to the todo list
01:48.51vhaarrckknight: that doesn't actually rotate, does it?
01:48.54vhaarrwow that's freaky
01:49.00ckknightno, it's not animated
01:49.05ckknightjust an optical illusion
01:49.11Gnarfoz_ckknight: mind if I also commit different multipliers for ABF that look more like... ABF? (straight from ag_UFs latest ABF layout (there: hp: 17, mp: 13, cast: 10 which translates to 1, .75, .6 (for rounding's sake))
01:49.14sylvanaarpastamancer yes i know, i just need to find  a test case - pitbulls non .X zip has the old fmt
01:51.00ckknightGnarfoz_: or 17, 13, 10 :-P
01:51.05ckknightwhatever works, though
01:51.12Gnarfoz_ckknight: lol you're right
01:51.25pastamancersylvanaar: ah, DogTag has a non .X with the new format, but no .X because it's a lib
01:52.05sylvanaarpastamancer great i can view its changelog
01:52.24shieldbhmm.. pitbull's raid stuff is way acting up tonight - displaying class colors wrong and putting names in the wrong spots o_0
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01:53.30sylvanaarpastamancer is it possible to trigger the zips to be rebuilt?
01:53.51pastamancersylvanaar: I could delete them
01:54.12pastamancersylvanaar: but as a rule, the files script does not replace existing zips
01:54.36KilrooHmm...can you attach things to OnEvent type triggers in game?
01:55.01sylvanaarpastamancer just to get the current changelogs to the correct naming
01:55.03KilrooThat just sort of randomly occurred to me out of the blue.
01:55.05pastamancersylvanaar: if someone pokes one of the core ace libraries, it'll generate new .X zips for damn near everything though
01:55.37sylvanaarpastamancer but wau uses the non .X zip to view changelogs from
01:56.05sylvanaarpastamancer thats the one that needs the update
01:58.50sylvanaarpastamancer its not a big deal, dont do it if its a major undertaking or could break anything, but it sounds like the only only way some rarely changed addons would get updated
02:02.01sylvanaarok, so anyone who uses WAU 1.7 with embedded libraries, can you also try updating your addons
02:03.05pastamancersylvanaar: what was the point of adding the .X to the changelog filenames then?
02:03.46pastamancersylvanaar: I think it's more hassle than it's worth just for changelogs
02:04.10sylvanaarWAU uses the change log to get the version of the zip it isntalled
02:04.34pastamancerhow bizarre
02:05.02sylvanaarpastamancer not really, because historically the changelogs matched the zip
02:05.17Arrowmasternetherspite just gave us our payback for running out
02:05.24pastamancerI didn't think anyone was actually parsing the changelog
02:05.30pastamanceror is it just the filename?
02:05.32sylvanaarthe name
02:05.51Arrowmastertimer expired for netherbreath phase and he kept netherbreathing
02:06.18sylvanaarit gets everything after the "r" and before the ".txt"
02:06.31MegalonArrowmaster: the phased-out phase is sometimes much longer than the expected 30sec
02:06.33pastamancerok
02:06.51sylvanaarwhich has always matched the zip file
02:07.21sylvanaarso even if you installed a zip manually, it'd handle it correctly
02:07.50Megalonhad it once to last up to one minute >:<
02:12.15CIA-1103ckknight * r33559 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make the tags and modifiers share the same color functions (simplifies things).
02:15.39shieldbckknight, http://ace.pastey.net/16182 :(
02:17.14ckknightshieldb: how to reproduce?
02:17.14shieldbuhh, I'm in a raid
02:17.24ckknightgot a debugstack?
02:17.39shieldbstuff is all freaked out, though -- I've got [raidgroup:paren] [name] for the name text on raid frames and it's completely mismatching which players are where and which groups folks are in
02:18.02shieldbhow can I pull a debugstack out for you?
02:18.33CIA-1103sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33560 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/ (PratPlugin-1.0/ extras/profiling.lua filelist.wau): Prat: Added PratPlugin-1.0 to the package, soft-disable the profiling code on live
02:20.12sylvanaarshieldb use prat?
02:20.37sylvanaarif you dont have bugsack
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02:22.31shieldbI use both ;)
02:22.45sylvanaarallright, anyone want to try out Prat on live, im thinking about commiting this new version, it runs for me on live
02:23.06sylvanaarwell, you can cut/paste it from bugsack and pastey
02:23.34sylvanaarif it prints to the chatframe you can copychat it
02:23.44shieldbthat pastey is all I've got for bugsack output
02:24.10sylvanaarcopychat is also real useful for /dump -> pastey
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02:25.52gnorlish-
02:33.54pastamancerckknight: I don't know if there's any demand for it in DogTag, but it might be worth adding a length modifier
02:34.04ckknighthow do you mean?
02:34.06Chomperswell, that was another fantastic episode of heroes
02:34.17Chompershope its this good for the rest of the season
02:34.19pastamancerfor truncating long strings
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02:35.34ckknighthrm
02:35.40Gnarfoz_I'd like one for padding strings, too :> would avoid stuff like [level] [playerclass] [race] resulting in [level]  [race] for mobs
02:35.58pastamancer[guild:length(10)]
02:36.26ckknightGnarfoz_: actually [level] [playerclass] [race] now turns into [level] [race]
02:36.30ckknight1 space, not 2
02:36.33Gnarfoz_hm
02:36.39ckknightpastamancer: [guild:trunc(10)] would work
02:36.41Gnarfoz_must have missed that ^^
02:36.58pastamancerckknight: sure
02:37.13pastamancerit's just part of my evil plan to make sure every addon includes UTF8
02:38.16ckknightcurrently doing ANSI sub, though
02:38.37pastamancerthe zhCN zhTW and koKR will complain soon enough
02:38.47ckknightI'm actually even taking out DogTag's AceEvent dependency
02:39.00ckknightI found a more efficient way to do mass-bucketing
02:40.00pastamancerI'm planning to seriously reduce the AceEvent usage whenever I get around to rewriting Grid
02:40.10Gnarfoz_ckknight: will dewdrop automatically append "withAlpha" to the name of the "set" function if "hasAlpha == true"?
02:40.33ckknightthe set function?
02:40.35CIA-1103fenlis * r33561 10BugSack/BugSack-koKR.lua:
02:40.35CIA-11BugSack :
02:40.35CIA-11<PROTECTED>
02:40.37ckknightwhy would it do that?
02:40.51Gnarfoz_because in CastBar.lua, there is an unused setDBColorWithAlpha(field,r,g,b,a) function
02:41.48Gnarfoz_and e.g. BackgroundColor (like the one for CastBarBG) has an alpha slider, but for the entire menu the set function is setDBColor(field,r,g,b), throwing away the alpha value
02:42.11Gnarfoz_(trying to hunt down why the CastBarBG does not show up, but I'm not finding anything :<)
02:42.54CIA-1103fenlis * r33562 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuXPLocals.lua:
02:42.54CIA-11FuBar_FuXPFu:
02:42.54CIA-11- Updated localization koKR
02:43.24pastamancer^^ that reminds me, we should really explain to people that it's locales, not locals
02:44.02hyperChipmunkonly a moron would think that!
02:45.01Gnarfoz_~x en de locale
02:45.06Gnarfoz_wrong.
02:45.08Gnarfoz_^^
02:45.14CIA-1103rabbit * r33563 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Proper options for emphasized bars, can now flash or move independently.
02:45.33Gnarfoz_localisation would be correct :<
02:47.08ckknightl10n
02:47.13ckknight:-P
02:47.17ckknightand i18n
02:47.42pastamanceryar
02:48.07CIA-1103ckknight * r33564 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove AceEvent-2.0 dependency, instead use a very optimized mass-bucketing scheme.
02:50.29vhaarrsomeone try to break the bigwigs bars module for me now please, I want to release soon and have to make sure it works
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02:53.59CIA-1103gnarfoz * r33565 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua:
02:53.59CIA-11PitBull: ABF layout:
02:53.59CIA-11- restored 1px spacing between health/mana bars
02:53.59CIA-11- adjusted CastBar's height accordingly so it does not overlap the mana bar
02:53.59CIA-11- made the CastBarIcon be the same height as the castbar (was still overlapping the mana bar and the outer frame)
02:54.00CIA-11- changed bar height multipliers to values that look more like ABF actually looked (rounded from latest rev of ag_UFs ABF.lua)
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02:54.38Gnarfoz_yay for detailed commit messages
02:55.04Gnarfoz_now for some 3... no, 2.4 hours of sleep before work :,
02:55.13Gnarfoz_nights should be longer :P
02:55.46hyperChipmunkckknight: ok, happycolor doesn't even seem to be called
02:55.53ckknightit does for me
02:55.55ckknightit works perfectly.
02:56.01ckknightI have no idea why it doesn't for you
02:56.02hyperChipmunkwhat's your string?
02:56.04kaidennoooo found another bug in Infinibar ;(
02:56.22ckknighthyperChipmunk: [level] [smartrace] [happyicon:happycolor]
02:56.33hyperChipmunkoh, well that explains it
02:56.39ckknightwhat?
02:56.46hyperChipmunk[happycolor][name] doesn't work anymore then?
02:56.52hyperChipmunkname:happycolor?
02:57.00ckknight[happycolor][name] should work
02:57.06ckknightI prefer the colon syntax, though
02:57.06mjcdoh
02:57.10mjcit'd help if I had luasokcet
02:57.11mjcsocket
02:58.08hyperChipmunkstrange; i have debug prints in the function and not getting anything
02:58.39ckknighthyperChipmunk: um, put a print right before the compileTree function returns.
02:58.46ckknightto see what code it generates
02:58.52hyperChipmunkoh
02:58.55hyperChipmunki bet i know
02:59.08hyperChipmunki bet it got taken off custom
02:59.37hyperChipmunkbingo
02:59.38Gnarfoz_what the hell
02:59.44hyperChipmunkdeath to whomever did that
03:03.12hyperChipmunki'm still getting pvp and in-combat items flashing at ridiculous scales when targets are changed and stuff, too
03:03.18hyperChipmunks/items/icons/
03:03.42hyperChipmunki'll try to screenshot; gonna take lightning reflexes though =x
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03:06.17hyperChipmunknaturally i can't get it to happen on-command
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03:07.50CIA-1103gnarfoz * r33566 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: ABF layout - no, I didn't expect unintialized values to be fine to work with, nope
03:08.17Gnarfoz_so much for 64x64 sized castbaricons on the player frame ;D
03:08.25ckknightlol
03:08.42Gnarfoz_getting the Height of a castbar that has not had it's height set yet doesn't quite work out
03:09.16Gnarfoz_anyway, sleeptime now... or nap time, or whatever
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03:17.53hyperChipmunkit happens twice on consecutive showing after a few minutes of not doing anything, targetwise
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03:18.05hyperChipmunkthen it seems to be fine
03:21.31FISKER_QhyperChipmunk!
03:21.33ckknighthyperChipmunk: wanna test someting for me?
03:21.35FISKER_QYou are beautiful and so on
03:22.23Fisker-btw
03:22.23Fisker-- added a negation operator to modifiers and tags, which for tags will turn blank into 'true' and non-blank into blank. For modifiers, it will turn blank into the previous value (which in and of itself is non-blank) and non-blank into blank.
03:22.27Fisker-Is that what i think it is?
03:22.37ckknight[~pants]
03:22.41hyperChipmunkO_o
03:22.45ckknighthyperChipmunk: after line 1602 (in :UpdateLayout()), add self:_UpdateLayout(), see if the issues go away
03:22.52hyperChipmunkk
03:23.13pastamancerckknight: please tell me that's a legitimate DogTag string
03:25.08hyperChipmunkckknight: testing; first indication seems okay, but it'll need a bit more to convince me, since i haven't been able to definitively drill down when it happens exactly
03:25.57ckknightpastamancer: sadly, pants isn't a tag, though it could be added
03:25.58ckknightyou'd more have stuff like [~isfriendly?missinghp!percenthp]
03:26.02ckknighthyperChipmunk: well play with that, tell me how it goes
03:26.21hyperChipmunkdoing so
03:26.27ckknightit may not be necessary now that populate and clear are lazy
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03:26.43pastamancerckknight: oh, it's required if I ever end up using dogtag
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03:29.08ckknightwhat'd be useful besides isfriend and isenemy?
03:29.26pastamanceristasty?
03:29.33pastamancerhave it return true for gnomes
03:29.53Diaohmm
03:29.56Diaopitbull keeps crashing wow
03:30.04Diaoevery time I try to scale my focus/focus target frame sizes
03:30.07pastamanceractually, does isenemy == canattack?
03:30.37ckknightUnitIsFriend("player", unit)
03:31.08pastamancerso isfriend = ! isenemy?
03:31.18ckknightyea, isenemy = "~isfriend"
03:31.19ckknightit's an alias
03:31.23pastamancerjust making sure neutral mobs are covered
03:31.34ckknightDiao: I'll check it out
03:31.55hyperChipmunkisignored
03:32.07ckknightisignored?
03:32.07hyperChipmunkso you can put on the h9 when they walk past
03:32.17ckknighth9? is that a step up from h8?
03:32.20hyperChipmunkyes
03:32.28ckknightfiesty
03:32.33Diaockknight: It seems to crash it only if I use the slider
03:32.38hyperChipmunkpurl, h9 is like h8, but one bigger!
03:32.41purlhyperChipmunk: okay
03:32.42Diaoit works fine if I type in a value
03:32.45hyperChipmunk~h9
03:32.47purli heard h9 is like h8, but one bigger!
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03:33.05hyperChipmunkit's official now
03:35.17hyperChipmunkckknight: seems to work
03:35.45hyperChipmunkwant me to commit?
03:36.37ckknightno
03:36.57mjchttp://r21freak.com/ixtli/orly-.jpg
03:37.14CIA-1103ckknight * r33567 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added tags isfriend, isenemy, and text(arg)
03:37.20Prophhwhy does aloft keep on disabling nameplates on its own???
03:37.47hyperChipmunktext(arg) = ispirate?
03:37.57ckknightno, text(arg) prints the arg.
03:38.04ckknightthat's it
03:38.07hyperChipmunkarrg
03:38.26ckknightso you can do things like [isfriend?text(Friend)!text(Enemy)]
03:38.30pastamancer[text(Hooray)?~pants] ?
03:38.51hyperChipmunkno, other way
03:38.59hyperChipmunk[~pants?text(Horray)]
03:39.08pastamanceroh [pants?noop!text(Hooray)]]
03:39.23hyperChipmunk[~ispirate?text(arrg)]
03:39.34pastamancerah, I see
03:40.23hyperChipmunkoh wait
03:40.23hyperChipmunkno, [ispirate?text(arrg)]
03:40.33CIA-1103ckknight * r33568 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix text(arg)
03:40.37pastamancerbut [~ispriate?text(ninja!)] would work?
03:40.44hyperChipmunkyes
03:40.51ckknightpastamancer: that'd give a syntax error, I believe
03:41.04ckknightand thus just print the tag out
03:41.12ckknightsince the ! isn't expected to be in the parens
03:41.14pastamancerckknight: due to the pirate/ninja conflict, or due to ~foo not working?
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03:41.23pastamanceroh
03:41.23ckknightdue to the !
03:41.33pastamancerbut it should be literal until the close paren
03:42.15pastamancerI know there's a paren-matching pattern in string.match
03:42.35ckknightit initially separates by all ?!:
03:42.37mjchttp://quotes.nasdaq.com/asp/SummaryQuote.asp?symbol=ORLY&selected=ORLY too.
03:42.47hyperChipmunk%b?
03:42.54pastamancerthat sounds right
03:43.00ckknightso you'd end up with "~ispirate", "?", "text(ninja",  "!", ")"
03:43.10ckknightwhich messes up things.
03:43.13pastamancerdo I need to ask for a proper tokenizer/lexer?
03:43.21ckknightif you want to make it, you can.
03:43.27pastamancerhaha
03:43.54pastamancerI think I'm just here to cause trouble.  I don't see dogtags fitting in to how grid does things
03:43.55hyperChipmunkyou'd do %b()
03:44.38ckknightpastamancer: it could still work. *shrug*
03:45.03ckknightthough I'm not sure how Grid does things
03:45.35hyperChipmunkvery tiny and illegible-like =D
03:45.42Diaohmm
03:45.48pastamancerI may end up writing a generic tokenizer at some point, but it's all pipe dreams at this point.  Too busy to start on new projects
03:45.50Diaodoes pitbull support showing party members' targets?
03:46.03ckknightyes
03:46.03pastamanceryes
03:46.09Diaojust add a new unit frame?
03:46.12hyperChipmunkyep
03:46.17Diaoahh k
03:46.23Diaois there a way to clone settings from one type of frame to another?
03:46.23hyperChipmunkpartyNtarget
03:46.36hyperChipmunkor actually
03:46.40ckknightpastamancer: bump this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=97772966&sid=1
03:46.46hyperChipmunki think there's a party target set in there already
03:46.47ckknightDiao: no, just use the menu
03:46.50hyperChipmunkyea
03:46.51ckknightdisabled units
03:47.04ckknightwhich is ugly cause vhaarr didn't finish it
03:47.05Diaoahh
03:47.07DiaoThanks
03:47.15Diao:)
03:47.19vhaarrwho, me?
03:47.28ckknightdidn't you do the disabled units thing?
03:47.31vhaarryes
03:47.36vhaarrwhat's wrong with it?
03:48.11hyperChipmunkyou blow, that's what
03:48.17ckknightI'll commit the fix
03:50.26Diao1 more question
03:50.27pastamancerckknight: done
03:50.29DiaoI tried enabling Target's target's target just to see it
03:50.30ckknightdone what?
03:50.33Diaoand it doesn't show up on my screen
03:51.12pastamancerckknight: bumped that thread
03:51.23Diaoany way to force it to set the frame to the middle of the screen?
03:51.30hyperChipmunkdo you have something that has a target'starget'starget?
03:51.44Diaowell
03:51.44CIA-1103ckknight * r33569 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
03:51.44CIA-11PitBull - make the disabled units menu look nicer.
03:51.44CIA-11- added another :_UpdateLayout() where it was needed
03:51.46ckknightpastamancer: ah.
03:51.47DiaoI'm on solo config mode
03:51.53Diaobut I targetted myself to test
03:52.00Diaoand it doesn't show up anywhere
03:53.33vhaarrckknight: Perhaps the "New unit frame" menu should just be hidden by default, and only visible if debugging is enabled or something.
03:53.56ckknightprobably
03:54.05ckknightI also want there to be some way to make an MT list and such.
03:56.21Diaooh never mind
03:56.22vhaarrWell, there are two things you can do; support the Blizzard tank/assist units, or support oRA2+CTRA.
03:56.23DiaoI reloaded my UI
03:56.28Diaoand it worked
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03:56.47ckknightvhaarr: honestly, I dunno
03:57.02vhaarrckknight: I don't think you should worry about it.
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03:58.07ckknightnot yet, at least
03:58.09vhaarrHooking into the Blizzard stuff is not worth the trouble, seeing how limited it is, and if people run CTRA or oRA2, they already have a display.
03:58.59Arrowmasterthe blizzard stuff should just be two new unitids
03:59.06Arrowmasterso it should be easy to add
04:02.16Arrowmasterim going to start setting the blizzard MT/MA stuff in raids next patch just because of how easyly people tend to fuck up their mods and ask stupid questions about stuff not working
04:04.02CIA-1103totalpackage * r33570 10InFlight/ (Defaults.lua InFlight.lua InFlight.toc):
04:04.03CIA-11InFlight:
04:04.03CIA-11- code/toc cleanup
04:05.27CIA-1103totalpackage * r33571 10InFlight_Load/ (Defaults.lua InFlight_Load.lua InFlight_Load.toc):
04:05.28CIA-11InFlight_Load
04:05.28CIA-11- redid cartographer_notes database again, should use less memory
04:05.28CIA-11- and while at it, added default locations for 2.1 new fp
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04:11.39vhaarrArrowmaster: There's no such thing.
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04:11.54vhaarrAs a unit ID for the tank and assist.
04:12.07Arrowmasterisnt one yet
04:12.27vhaarrSo you're saying they're adding it in 2.1?
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04:12.48Arrowmasterhavent played with the ptr raid frames much but if they did it some other way that would be really weird
04:13.09vhaarrThen it's "weird", because there's no tank/assist unit ID in 2.1.
04:13.17Arrowmasterthat sucks
04:13.19vhaarrIt's a return from GetRaidRosterInfo.
04:13.20pastamancerblizzard's raid frames have very little basis in reality
04:13.24vhaarr'role'
04:14.25hyperChipmunkheh, niagara's dropdown for Grid orientation: i can choose from AL or NTAL
04:14.51ckknightum, what?
04:15.03vhaarr~seen nargiddley
04:15.41purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 38m 5s ago, saying: 'not the method itself, and it'll be called like that with handler as the object'.
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04:16.05pastamancerhyperChipmunk: omg screenshot!
04:16.40hyperChipmunkit just doesn't line up the selected one right in the box
04:16.47hyperChipmunkso you only see the last couple letters
04:17.38pastamancerAL would be vertical, and ntal would be horizontal
04:17.52ckknightah.
04:17.53hyperChipmunkyea
04:19.30CIA-1103rabbit * r33572 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Rearrange the menu slightly so it looks a bit better in Waterfall.
04:22.11vhaarrKirkburn|afk: ClearFont2 seems to be tainting the Blizzard raid UI, at least in 2.1.
04:23.16Kirkburn|afk>_< No idea why that could be
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04:26.48CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r33573 10Niagara/Niagara.lua:
04:26.48CIA-11Niagara:
04:26.49CIA-11- Spelling corrections: Categorys -> Categories
04:26.49CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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04:39.33Diaohmm
04:39.33mjcnymbia: ping
04:39.34DiaoIs the "directions" for auras unfinished in pitbull
04:39.34DiaoIf I click it in niagara I get the following error
04:39.34Diao[2007/04/23 21:41:27-819-x1]: PitBull-r33569\Aura\Aura.lua:680: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
04:39.34DiaoWaterfall-1.0-33320 (Waterfall-1.0):251: in function <...AddOns\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0.lua:248>
04:39.34DiaoWaterfall-1.0-33320 (Waterfall-1.0):727: in function `FeedAceOptionsTable'
04:39.34DiaoWaterfall-1.0-33320 (Waterfall-1.0):368: in function `children'
04:39.34DiaoWaterfall-1.0-33320 (Waterfall-1.0):1447: in function `ChangePane'
04:39.34DiaoWaterfall-1.0-33320 (Waterfall-1.0):3452: in function `SetSelected'
04:39.34DiaoWaterfall-1.0-33320 (Waterfall-1.0):3556: in function <...AddOns\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0.lua:3554>
04:39.34Diao---
04:40.19ckknightace.pastey.net
04:45.20Kirkburn|afkhyperChipmunk, yay for grammer corrections :D One can play WoW /and/ improve your english at the same time :P
04:45.47kaidenKirkburn|afk, and here i thought it was mostly engrish or barrenspeak that was spoken in wow ;p
04:46.27Kirkburn|afkhehe
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04:47.37MegalonKraigen: Since the creation of the Internet, the Earth's rotation has been fueled, primarily, by the collective spinning of English teachers in their graves.
04:47.38Megalon:o
04:50.54vhaarrhaha
04:51.36vhaarroooh, 24s6 e19
04:51.39kaidenone can only imagine why *ponders the name Kraigen*
04:53.27kaideni've heard of typos but never entirely new names created
04:53.29kaidenlol
04:53.49Diaohttp://ace.pastey.net/16284
04:53.50Diaothere
05:02.48CIA-1103ckknight * r33574 10PitBull/ (Experience/Experience.lua PitBull.lua):
05:02.48CIA-11PitBull - fix a bunch of layout issues. Now smartly realizes when layouts are going to be updated and thus does them right away (after the call is made, but before OnUpdate).
05:02.48CIA-11Experience - support pet XP sanely.
05:02.54ckknighthyperChipmunk: there we go
05:03.26ckknighthyperChipmunk: that should fix your issue as well as making it very efficient. i.e. only one layout update per frame per show unless something changes
05:03.30ckknightbefore it was up to 6
05:03.32ckknight*shudder*
05:05.30ckknighthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=97772966&sid=1
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05:05.45|MoX|Padwa|lol ... i just lose 24 stacks of herbs coz bug ^(
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05:06.09ckknight|MoX|Padwa|: sucks
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05:06.44|MoX|Padwa|yap ^( and it was netherbloob mostly ^(
05:06.53|MoX|Padwa|netherbloom
05:07.07|MoX|Padwa|omg and lotus ...
05:08.44hyperChipmunkckknight: very slick
05:09.21ckknighthyperChipmunk: but please test it. It should work perfectly now, but testing's important
05:09.57hyperChipmunkobviously
05:10.25hyperChipmunkooh
05:10.40hyperChipmunkthere's no pause before recognition of in-combat either
05:11.17hyperChipmunkit used to take about a half-second before the icon showed, even when it wasn't gigantic and somewhere else on the screen
05:13.03ckknightyea
05:13.09ckknightso working right, then?
05:13.12hyperChipmunkcould be that it's waiting the half-second before displaying the frame, but that's not noticeable, and it looks much cleaner
05:13.18hyperChipmunkyep, far as i can tell
05:14.29ckknightgreat
05:17.05Diaockknight: http://ace.pastey.net/16284
05:18.00ckknightuse Dewdro
05:18.02ckknightDewdrop*
05:18.57ckknightif it succeeds in Dewdrop, then inform Nargiddley
05:19.05Diaookay
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05:33.18CIA-1103jjsheets * r33575 10InfiniBar/ (IB_Standard.lua MacroSupport.lua):
05:33.18CIA-11InfiniBar - Greatly Reduced the number of times CDUpdateAll is called per
05:33.18CIA-11spellcast per bar (once if the spell has no cooldown, twice if it does). Also
05:33.18CIA-11slightly changed Macro parsing to get rid of errors on line 51 of
05:33.18CIA-11MacroSupport.lua with a nil argument to strsplit.
05:34.53JJSheetshyperChipmunk, if you get a chance, test that out... I'm getting some sleep, but will be back in tomorrow morning most likely.
05:34.58JJSheetsnight ya'll
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05:39.00xyuFor simple combat log, say i want to Watch for silencing abilities such as Pummel and Kick
05:39.09xyuwould i go to "Watches" then "Skill" ?
05:39.13xyuAnd type in "Pummel"
05:39.28xyuBecause i've done that, and I notice nothing different :(
05:40.55hyperChipmunk~botmail for JJSheets: excellent work! that's orders of magnitude better!
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05:42.03nuoHepxyu, setup it to show interrupt events
05:42.33xyunuoHep: How would one go about doing that? ^^
05:43.23nuoHepfilters -> interrupt
05:43.52kaidenoooh purl is in here too? yay
05:43.55xyuwell it shows the pummel but i want it to make it show w/ tags or some sort of distinguishing effect
05:44.11xyuSo it'll be different than the other skills being used.
05:44.19xyuI figured that's what "watches" does.
05:45.06kaiden~botmail for JJSheets: Found another interesting bug for you, stance/shapeshift bar on and switch to cat form, bar switches properly, go to prowl bar switches to a new prowl or stealth page (even with stealth pages not clicked) switch out of cat form from prowl form and it goes back to the cat form bar instead of the humanoid form bar. :P
05:45.46nuoHepyou want only pummel to show differently? or every interrupt event?
05:46.02Herioyarg
05:46.07xyuWell no,  i dont want interrupts because pummel doesn't always land correctly
05:46.09xyui often Fake my heals
05:46.17xyuto draw a pummel or kick
05:46.20xyuand i want to see if it worked
05:46.22HerioI can't find a site with the individual item changes for 2.1.0
05:46.26xyuso my heal isn't necessarily interrupted
05:46.39xyubut it'll still show in my combat log.
05:49.21CIA-1103ckknight * r33576 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - now can specify modifiers/tags as requiring an argument or not, this should simplify some of the logic and lead to more optimization. :-)
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05:51.02Funkeh`later
05:58.49kaiden~botmail for JJSheets: Small request also, possibility of renaming bars?
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06:04.50CIA-1103helium * r33577 10Babble-2.2/ (13 files in 13 dirs):
06:04.50CIA-11Babble-2.2:
06:04.50CIA-11- updated and checked zhTW locale
06:04.50CIA-11- correct a typo in Babble-Ore-2.2.lua, it should be "Khorium Ore", not "Khroium Ore"
06:04.52xyuas;ldfkjalskd;jf lsdakj
06:05.00xyusomething is giving me critical errors in my rated 2v2
06:05.02xyu*cry*
06:06.09AenslaedOh man. Lurker Below is by far the best raid boss so far in burning crusade
06:07.07ckknightxyu: gnomes
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06:11.33CIA-1103ckknight * r33578 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added method :SetColorConstantTable(t), which basically allows PitBull (or some other addon) to set the color scheme that DogTag-1.0 uses in its tags.
06:11.54CIA-1103ckknight * r33579 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - utilize DogTag-1.0's :SetColorConstantTable(t)
06:12.28hyperChipmunkNICE
06:12.40hyperChipmunklol
06:12.53hyperChipmunkright after i hardcoded my colors in locally =p
06:13.12ckknightlol
06:13.28hyperChipmunki hate you
06:13.40ckknightnow I'm gonna add colors for minhp, midhp, maxhp
06:13.45ckknightnormally red, yellow, green
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06:13.53ckknightand then have the gradient use that instead of it being hardcoded
06:14.18hyperChipmunkseriously, it couldn't have been more than an hour and a half ago
06:14.31ckknightlol
06:14.34ckknightshould've just asked.
06:14.48hyperChipmunki hope you fall off a cliff and die
06:14.55ckknightI also want to add DruidBar support to PitBull
06:14.58ckknightnatively
06:15.12WobWorkAnd FD Hunterbar?
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06:16.46ckknightyou do it
06:16.46ckknightI don't have a hunter
06:16.46ckknightI have no qualms with fringe modules
06:16.46ckknightjust turn em off for people who aren't in that class
06:16.46ckknighti.e. DruidBar will only exist for druid players and no one else
06:16.46ckknightsimple if statement
06:16.48ckknightif select(2, UnitClass("player")) ~= "DRUID" then return end
06:16.52ckknightfeel free to make a rogue energy ticker
06:16.54ckknightor a hunter FD dealy
06:16.55dreyruugrckknight: can you add :SetBackdrop( nil ) to the delFrame method?  I was messing around with frames using backdrops, and when they got re-used they still had them
06:16.56ckknightor whatever
06:17.22ckknightwhat frames have that?
06:17.32ckknightnon-fontstring non-texture?
06:17.32dreyruugrcustom frames I had made
06:17.42dreyruugrin this case they were "Frame" type
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06:18.10ckknightk
06:18.23ckknightjust gonna do an if frame.SetBackdrop
06:18.40CIA-1103ckknight * r33580 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - :SetBackdrop(nil) on delFrame
06:19.20hyperChipmunk2.1 eliminates need for FD bar
06:19.36WobWorkhm
06:19.42WobWorkdoes it show up on partybars?
06:20.09hyperChipmunkparty doesn't see you as dead
06:20.13WobWorkkk
06:20.18hyperChipmunkthey see your hp, and don't lose target
06:20.27hyperChipmunkspellcasts aren't interrupted
06:20.35WobWorkso they can still heal you
06:20.47hyperChipmunkyep
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06:20.58WobWorkPVP: "Hey, that hunter jsut got healed while dead..."
06:21.08WobWork*stab!*
06:21.12hyperChipmunkmight be worthwhile to color the bar or something, but other than that, shouldn't be a need
06:21.19WobWorknah
06:21.26hyperChipmunkany hunter that expects FD to save him in PVP should get stabbed anyway
06:21.30WobWorknoone cares if the hunter FD's =)
06:21.43hyperChipmunkthey do if the hunter has agro =)
06:21.52WobWorkit's only there for the hunter to drop aggro
06:21.58WobWorknah
06:22.09WobWorkif the hunter is too stupid to use it to drop aggro, they deserve the repair costs
06:22.16hyperChipmunki do instances with a paladin and a druid
06:22.23theoddone33hunters use it for an interrupt in pvp don't they?
06:22.26DiaoHm
06:22.29hyperChipmunkyes
06:22.40WobWorkI take it only friendly 'targetting' isn't lost
06:22.50hyperChipmunkdruid waits until i'm FD to heal on pulls
06:22.51WobWorkand it still interrupts hostile casts
06:22.59WobWorkHah
06:23.00theoddone33no doubt
06:23.02hyperChipmunkright
06:23.08DiaoI remember a long time ago some unitframes (I believe it was nurfed) had a pretty nice feature where when mana or hp was lost, instead of a chunk of the bar disappearing at once, it would be an animated display
06:23.13WobWorkThe melodramatic "YARRRGH--gyhhh-glah" should tip them off =P
06:23.24hyperChipmunk=d
06:23.26WobWorkNelfs are such overactors =P
06:23.30DynomWobWork: lliance, clearly
06:23.37WobWorkWell, Hyper is
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06:24.56sedatedChipmunkaugh! aaaaughhaaaahhh
06:25.01sedatedChipmunk*thud*
06:25.19ckknightDiao: PitBull already has that
06:25.25ckknightDiao: BarFader
06:25.58WobWorkActually what would be cool...
06:26.03WobWorkis if the chunks fell off the abr
06:26.05WobWorkbar
06:26.06sedatedChipmunkthx for volunteering
06:26.23sedatedChipmunkhope to see a prototype by tomorrow morning, wob
06:26.24DynomWobWork: well, now they vanish into thin air! rogue blocks, isn't it great \o/
06:26.43WobWorkahaha
06:27.22sedatedChipmunktry to do a spinning vortex-suck effect while you're at it too
06:27.49Dynomthat sounds geekish
06:27.56DiaoAhh
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06:27.58DiaoThanks ckknight
06:28.08sedatedChipmunkthat sounds like a mage healthbar
06:28.23Dynomgod I love spamassasin
06:28.34DynomsedatedChipmunk: hmmm, that kinda sounded nice...
06:28.55sedatedChipmunk*schhhhhhlok*
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06:29.27WobWorkI've heard that Hyper sucks a lot =)
06:30.16Dynomkeke
06:30.24sedatedChipmunki've heard that wobin eats his sister's toenails
06:31.01WobWorkcan't waste protein nowadays
06:31.05WobWorkI guess that's why you suck =)
06:31.35sedatedChipmunk'night folks
06:31.37NightHawkTheSanecheaply too,  bastard keeps undercutting me-- er..
06:31.59WobWorksleep well, chipper =)
06:33.02CIA-1103ckknight * r33581 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - added colors minHP, midHP, and maxHP, used by the health bar to make a gradient.
06:33.18CIA-1103ckknight * r33582 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add minHP, midHP, and maxHP, used by hpcolor to make a gradient.
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06:47.50Fisker-sup Elkano
06:48.32ckknightI'm not sure what else to add to DogTag
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06:48.51ElkanoBlackjack and Hookers?
06:49.02sylvanaarhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5782.0 plz have a look and comment if you havent read
06:49.21Fisker-can you use hostility as an argument?
06:49.29Fisker-cause you could put that in :P
06:49.36Fisker-show if hostile, don't if friendly
06:49.56ckknight[isfriend?alpha!bravo]
06:50.15Fisker-put it in earlier? :P
06:51.04ckknightyea
06:51.10CIA-1103rabbit * r33583 10BigWigs/ (Plugins/Bars.lua Prototype.lua):
06:51.10CIA-11BigWigs:
06:51.10CIA-11<PROTECTED>
06:51.11CIA-11<PROTECTED>
06:51.21Fisker-alright :P
06:51.55Fisker-oh and btw awesomeness vs. the new cooldown anchor vhaarr, it's a bit better now you actually notice it's moving :P
06:52.08vhaarr^^
06:52.46kebinusanneat there is an empahsis anchor now?
06:52.47vhaarrI'm going to wait for the dust to settle on this emphasize stuff and do another release.
06:52.58vhaarrkebinusan: yes, I just enabled it by default a few hours ago.
06:53.02kebinusancool, checking out now
06:53.15Fisker-It doubles in size or something and moves it to the middle of the screen
06:53.16Diaockknight: for bar fading options, what are fade value/smooth value?
06:53.18Fisker-very hot :P
06:53.22vhaarrit has been in for a week or so, but without options and off by default
06:53.28kebinusanI remember back when I used rdx like a year ago that was one of the things I thought was somewhat helpful, how there were two different bar frames
06:53.35ckknightDiao: test it out, I didn't write it
06:53.41kebinusanbut rdx was the devil
06:53.48vhaarrhehe
06:53.55ckknightemphasis anchor?
06:54.13Fisker-It moves bars with <10 secs to a new anchor
06:54.17Fisker-and resizes them
06:54.20Diaooh
06:54.24vhaarrckknight: When bars are close to completion, they are moved to a second anchor (that would be placed closer to the center of the screen), enlarged by 150% and start flashing.
06:54.46ckknightalright
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06:55.18DiaoI shall try it out now
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06:57.10Silviu-I had to make it smaller that 150% was too big :D
06:57.53vhaarrhm I guess it can be a bit big
06:58.12Silviu-No problem as long as we have option to make it smaller
06:58.25Silviu-And btw, verry nice vhaarr thank u :)
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06:58.29Diaohmm
06:58.30Diaostrange
06:58.54WobWorksob
06:58.58Diaoif i enable smooth value
06:58.59Diaoit works nicely
06:59.02WobWorkI misread that as "Arrr, very nice vhaar"
06:59.03Diaobut when fade value is enabled
06:59.06Diaoit still does bar jumps
06:59.08WobWorkI have pirates on the brain
07:00.03ckknightDiao: you understand what "smooth" means, right?
07:00.27theoddone33ckknight: I love you
07:00.39theoddone33pitbull is the first thing I've seen that doesn't force me to be in a party to configure my frames
07:00.40theoddone33hehe
07:00.46Silviu-ckknight can i make u a screen ? hp bar is a lil more larger then mana ;p
07:01.22ckknightSilviu-: I believe that's on purpose
07:01.28Silviu-Yes ?
07:01.28ckknighttheoddone33: :-)
07:01.41ckknighttheoddone33: actually DUF had that originally, I believe.
07:01.41Silviu-Yesterday it was not :)
07:01.49ckknightSilviu-: right.
07:02.13Silviu-And can i resize it then ? ;p
07:02.28ckknightopen ABF.lua
07:02.32ckknightthere's a heights = {
07:02.36ckknightalter the values in there.
07:02.44Silviu-Oh nvm
07:02.49Silviu-Don`t like to alter files
07:02.49Silviu-:)
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07:03.43Silviu-Just that maybe only my opinion it looked better with equal bars in width
07:04.04nevcairielthe stack numbe on Auras is teh fugly
07:04.07nevcairiel*number
07:04.12nevcairieland it jumps in position
07:04.22Silviu-Yeah i know :)
07:04.25CIA-1103ckknight * r33584 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - instead of setting an upvalue `unit`, pass it into the tags/modifiers properly.
07:04.50ckknighthey mitch0
07:05.23nymbiayeah why did the manabar get changed?
07:06.03nymbiahm
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07:06.20ckknight*shrug*
07:06.20Diaonymbia you wrote the barfader for pitbull, right?
07:06.22ckknightwasn't my commit
07:06.35nymbiagnarfoz did it
07:06.39nymbiaDiao: no
07:06.40Diaooh
07:06.42sylvanaarim surprised at how little interest there was about the Auto Load On Demand feature, its prolly one of the most useful techniques i have come accross
07:06.47CIA-1103jayrox * r33585 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc): FuBar_VampwatchFu: Disabled AceDebug for the time being.
07:06.51nevcairielseriously, the font on the XP Bar is way too big
07:06.59nevcairielplus i would like "Hide until Mouseover" :p
07:07.02nymbiaDiao: barfader is joshborke's
07:07.05Elkanosylvanaar, do I get it right that you fake the models you don't want to load in order to make there lua files bail out?
07:07.16Elkanos /models/modules/
07:07.18sylvanaaryeah
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07:07.19Diaoah
07:07.37sylvanaarthey bail out, and you can try to dump the module's table but its nil
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07:07.54nymbiackknight: i guess gnarfoz wanted things a different way and decided everyone else did, too.  even reverted your commit from two hours before..
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07:08.03sylvanaarthey exit before the module can load
07:08.43sylvanaarits 100% configurable at runtime
07:09.22ckknightnymbia: what did he revert?
07:09.29Elkanobtw: is return self.b really doing what you want it to do? ;)
07:09.29WobWorkhow do you fake it?
07:09.33ckknightoh wait
07:09.33ckknightI dunno
07:09.34ckknightwhatever
07:09.37ckknightlooks fine to me
07:09.38nymbiackknight: the padding between bars
07:09.46sylvanaari added a second LoD addon, so that you can enable all the modules again if you want to change the settings
07:09.57ckknightI took out the padding preliminarily, due to the way the heights changed
07:09.58nevcairieli like the 1px padding
07:10.04nymbiawell
07:10.22CIA-1103ckknight * r33586 10PitBull/Health/Health.lua: PitBull-Health - wrap strings in L[]
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07:10.25sylvanaarwho are you asking
07:10.42nymbiackknight: with that new height figuring method it'd be pretty easy to make options for the bar heights
07:10.57ckknightnymbia: oh very likely.
07:11.02WobWorksylvanaar: You =)
07:11.03ckknightI'm not good with design, though
07:11.11nymbiai'll throw those in :)
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07:11.54sylvanaarWob, i just keep a table of the modules, and when they try to load i tell them yes or no based on that table
07:12.06ckknightnymbia: make the numbers whole numbers, not <1
07:12.14CIA-1103fenlis * r33587 10LittleWigs/ (10 files in 3 dirs):
07:12.14CIA-11LittleWigs:
07:12.14CIA-11<PROTECTED>
07:12.28sylvanaarits really all a side effect of the way all the files are referenced
07:12.46ckknightnymbia: shouldn't matter cause they're all relative to each other
07:13.09nymbiackknight: so 1-10 or so?
07:13.18ckknightnymbia: yea, that'd be good.
07:13.21nymbiaok
07:14.13CIA-1103rabbit * r33588 10PitBull/ (CombatText/CombatText.lua Highlight/Highlight.lua): PitBull: Add descriptions to some options.
07:14.24sylvanaarbut, when i load the addon which has all the modules, the module lua files have an If not Prat:CanILoad() then return end (names changes) at the top
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07:15.27sylvanaarworks flawlessly
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07:16.58Elkanodid my sentence make it before the dc?
07:17.05nymbianope!
07:17.07sylvanaarno
07:17.32kaidenhrm, question, how intensive do you guys think on a system a leveling guide in game would be?
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07:17.46kaideni've been thinking of writing one as an addon
07:17.56CIA-1103nevcairiel * r33589 10Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: update buttons on craft_show/hide
07:18.00vhaarrsylvanaar: Perhaps you could make a post explaining how it actually works.
07:18.04kaidenand using waypoints with special graphics to show locations on the map
07:18.21ckknightkaiden: could be done quite well, actually
07:18.23ckknightby having multiple LoD addons
07:18.29ckknightand using an existing framework like Cart
07:18.41kaidenyeah i was thinking of using cartographers mapnotes
07:18.56Elkanobased on my understanding: every modul asks Prat if there already is a modul of that name. if there is, it aborts loading itself. so sylvanaar simply fakes all those modules that shouldn't load before trying to load them in order to have them abort their loading process
07:18.57kaidenquestion about cartographers mapnotes system, can you send it custom images for the mapnotes? haven't looked at it much
07:19.00Elkanosylvanaar, but I still don't understand why you are returning self.b
07:19.21sylvanaarElkano where
07:19.34vhaarrsylvanaar: actually, nevermind, it just snapped for me.
07:19.42Nickenyfikenkaiden: You can register cusom icons that you can use for your notes
07:19.54nymbiawhat the
07:19.54Elkanosylvanaar autolod lua GetEnabled/SetEnabled
07:19.56ckknightkaiden: yes, you can register your own icons.
07:20.00vhaarrkaiden: Take a look at Cartographer_Herbalism, for example.
07:20.05sylvanaarvhaarr you see how it works now?
07:20.06WobWorkcheck out the merchant ones too
07:20.12nymbiapurl, destroy gnarfoz
07:20.29purlno
07:20.29kaidenah nifty, i'll look more into it i've just been writing a few leveling guides down on paper here and there and figured it might be better to just make a mod
07:20.29vhaarrsylvanaar: yes
07:20.41WobWorkrofl? =P
07:20.47sylvanaaroh Elkano that is unused code
07:20.49Elkanobtw, ckknight, any ideas why cartographer has wiped my minig database twice until now? :/
07:20.54WobWorkpurl is just being contrary =P
07:21.02nymbiamessing with the layout on a whim?  fine.  changing half the file to spaces? UNFORGIVABLE?
07:21.07WobWorkwe still need 'lines' on cartoographer
07:21.11ckknightElkano: other than you touching yourself at night, no, I can't say
07:21.22vhaarr~whalenuke gnarfoz
07:21.24purlACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around gnarfoz with his mind powers
07:21.32WobWorkYou're the reason the internet can't have nice things =(
07:21.49ckknightWobWork: we probably do need lines, but I'm working on PitBull now
07:21.50ckknightI'm done with Cart
07:21.55ckknightthat's in maintenance mode for me
07:21.55Elkanockknight, you're wrong... night is most likely the nly time I'm NOT tou... oh shit... didn't say that..
07:22.09Nickenyfikenhaha
07:22.12CIA-1103sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33590 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat_AutoLoD/autolod.lua: removed dead code SetEnabled/GetEnabled
07:22.27sbunymbia: fixed numbers for battlegroups would be better :o
07:22.36nymbiasbu: why?
07:22.51sbubecause old data gets overwritten if you only update 1 bg
07:23.15ElkanoNickenyfiken, will you merge the trainers in TrainerFu? currently I'm having an "Explorers League" for mining ;)
07:23.38sbuand there are numbers in battlegroups.xml aren't there?
07:24.02sbuits '<battlegroup display="Blackout" name="blackout" sortPosition="1">"
07:24.02Elkanobtw: sylvanaar, how is that benefit caused by differences between xml and toc?
07:24.06sbusortPosition should be fine
07:26.21Elkanosylvanaar, and jerry is most likely right that this only makes sense for big packages where you only want a part of but not for real LoD addons that will add missing stuff when needed since you can only update your loaded modules once in your approach
07:28.07sylvanaarwell, to unload them you have to reload ui
07:28.22sylvanaarjust like with every other lod addon
07:28.56NickenyfikenElkano: you mean something like default data?
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07:29.35vhaarrsylvanaar: I don't see how the XML adds anything, either, surely you could do the same thing with a good old TOC?
07:30.05Elkanosylvanaar, I mean eg Bigwigs loading boss modules when you see the boss
07:30.24vhaarryeah BW can't use it, like jerry already said
07:30.54ElkanoNickenyfiken, iirc, in the tablet you have a tree layered by profession and trainer type where imho the trainertype is unneeded
07:31.02sylvanaarElkano you would need a LoD addon for each "load" you want to do before requiring a reloadui
07:31.49sylvanaarwhat lua files get loaded is controlable at the time you call LoadAddOn
07:32.28sylvanaarBW could use it, it wouldnt need BW_AQ, just BW_1,2,3,4,5,6,7.
07:32.33NickenyfikenElkano: Yeah maybe, you mean for professions only or class trainers too?
07:33.12Elkanoexactly, that's why imho this approach isn't possible for most LoD addons on svn (Babble, PT3, ...)
07:33.15sylvanaarall the lua files can reside within the bw folder
07:34.27sylvanaarElkano you mean ones which are loaded by dependancy?
07:35.20ElkanoNickenyfiken, I've seen it for professions, don't know about class. But imho both shouln't need it. simply have a trainer item as first object in the list for each entry that tells you up to which skill/level the trainers teach but have a singe skill listing per skill
07:36.13Elkanosylvanaar, well, which other LoD addons come to your mind atm?
07:36.15sylvanaarElkano its for any module system, its not really meant for libraries
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07:37.25sylvanaaranything that uses acemodulecore and has more than 3-4 modules
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07:38.21CIA-1103fenlis * r33591 10BigWigs/ (Options.lua Plugins/Bars.lua Plugins/RaidWarn.lua):
07:38.21CIA-11BigWigs:
07:38.22CIA-11<PROTECTED>
07:38.22sylvanaarits for making individual lua files Loadable on Demand
07:38.29Elkanobut only if these modules aren't ment to be loaded based on some ingame condition but only on uses choice wether to have it enabled or not
07:38.40nymbiawait wait
07:38.53nymbiaindividual lua files LoD? how?
07:39.20Elkanothat's what I ment since the first case would again require additional addons in the size of modul count which would blast all benefits
07:39.23sylvanaarthats what it does, you dont even have to move them out of your addon folder
07:40.00nymbiabut
07:40.01nymbiahow?
07:40.04sylvanaarthe addons are empty
07:40.34sylvanaarhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5782.0
07:40.43sylvanaarnymbia ^^
07:42.25sylvanaarlook at Prat_Modules_AutoLoD, it creates a load event which allows you to load any of the unloaded lua files
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07:43.20Elkanohmpf... I wonder what's wrong with my university's VPN :/
07:43.40Elkanonymbia it's more like "don't load if not enabled" without additional addons in the size of modul count than real LoD
07:44.08sylvanaarit is real LoD
07:44.42nymbiahm
07:45.10CIA-1103nevcairiel * r33592 10Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: save two variable assignments and one comparison from OnUpdate .. who knows, this could be the big performance peak!
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07:45.53mitch0nevcairiel: :)
07:45.54drinOT, Is patchday today for US?
07:46.06nevcairieli dont think so
07:46.29mitch0no background downloading so far, so I guess it's at least a week away
07:46.48nevcairielyeah, its a big patch .. background loader will prolly kick in before
07:46.50Megalonhm, PTR BT is more like.. thrashmob testing? :x
07:47.01Megalonas i only heard from GMs killing bosses
07:47.02Megalon:O
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07:47.30NickenyfikenElkano: But classes have for example Shaman -> Elemental - > list of skills. So the Elemental part is not needed you think? Just Shaman -> list of skills
07:47.31nevcairielyou cant expect a bunch of random newbies who bought T5 at the vendor, to kill bosses on an unstable server.
07:47.37sylvanaarthe only thing that is different is its not lod for the saveed variables and frames
07:47.43sbuMegalon: well why else would the death-touch 1st boss?
07:48.13Silviu-nevcairiel u can buy t5 at vendor ? o.O
07:48.15Megalonthey also death-touched supremus for the raid with dnt
07:48.18nevcairielSilviu-: sure
07:48.23Silviu-lol where
07:48.29nevcairielSilviu-: t5 and random epix from SC/TK
07:48.32vhaarrnevcairiel: well they've killed 2 bosses in BT
07:48.32nevcairielnext to Adal
07:48.37Silviu-oh
07:48.50nevcairielI've only heard about the "GM Killings" so far tho
07:48.50Silviu-Must enter ptr and have a look thx :)
07:48.51vhaarrwarlord and supremus
07:49.06vhaarrwell yeah, maybe they got some help, but I think they did most of the work anyway
07:49.27Megalonhm, you mean they got death touched
07:49.32Megalonafter the GMs thought
07:49.42Megalonenough of wiping on undfixed random bugs? ;D
07:49.47vhaarrhehe probably
07:49.48nevcairielheh
07:50.00Megalonbut those bugs will surely make it into the patch! :D
07:50.01nevcairielThey should get a new encounter like razorgore
07:50.16nevcairielrazorgore bugged on us once, GM went in to kill him for us again because instance reseted
07:50.17Arrowmasteroh god no
07:50.17nevcairielbut
07:50.24nevcairielhe could not defeat him \o/
07:50.28vhaarrlol
07:50.37CIA-1103nymbia * r33593 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua:
07:50.37CIA-11PitBull: Layout-ABF:
07:50.37CIA-11- Options for bar heights.
07:50.47nevcairielso he "allowed" us to do him again
07:50.52ElkanoNickenyfiken, for the classes I would leave the split. But maybe there also exist other NPCs than eg <Shaman Trainer> that will teach you your class's skills
07:50.53nevcairieldouble loot for us :D
07:50.57CIA-1103jerry * r33594 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added a bunch of missing icons. The remaining ones are problematic because there are several distinct icons.
07:51.21sbumeh, plate & mail only loot in BT :p
07:51.32sbuoh, there, healer cloth boots - WTB :p
07:51.36ElkanoNickenyfiken: spliting by talent tree for classes does make sense but splitting by trainer description doesn't imho
07:51.44nevcairielI'm hovering on my mount over terokkar, with a 14 KiB/s
07:51.45nevcairielwtf
07:51.49vhaarr<PROTECTED>
07:51.52nymbiaSilviu-: ^
07:51.56Megalonbut nice to see blacksmithing plans dropping
07:51.57Silviu-nymbia <3
07:51.58vhaarrnevcairiel: :o
07:52.04Megalonthat will make you a bop-item
07:52.14Megalon>:<
07:52.53nevcairielflying around even increases the memory increase
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07:53.04nevcairielwonder if thats cartographer with my gazillion herb notes
07:53.13vhaarrthat could be it, yes
07:53.40vhaarrCartographer_Notes has the only remaining onupdate when the world map is not open, and it's not a cheap one
07:53.50nymbiaTekkub: not id'd
07:54.00Tekkubbuggernuts
07:54.12Megalonnevcairiel: have you run cartographer_cleanup?
07:54.13nymbiai should really get them to drop my old registration one of these days
07:54.17nevcairielMegalon: yea
07:54.23Tekkubis the compression in PT3 just base36, or is there other majicks I need to know of to hijack your data?
07:54.24Tekkub:)
07:54.27Megalonah k, as that saved me quite a bit
07:54.34nymbiaTekkub: just base 36 :)
07:54.43Tekkubneed to update kennel's lists...
07:54.53nymbiahehe
07:55.01Tekkubso just tonumber(base36value, 36) will do it for me?
07:55.10nymbiai think one of the murlocs just got added to wowhead like yeserday so it wont be in there
07:55.12nymbiabut yeah
07:55.39Tekkubsweets
07:55.48nymbiaTekkub: the uncompressed versions are in data.lua if you wanna just grab em from there
07:55.53Tekkubis all data in PT3 compressed, or are there still base10 ones?
07:56.09Tekkubhrm...
07:56.27Tekkubthat's the old format?  id:value(space(id...
07:56.29Tekkub?
07:56.44nymbianot quite, comma delimiters instead of space
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07:57.02Tekkubsimple tweak, I was gonna rewrite my table-ifier
07:57.11Tekkubto use string.split
07:57.11nymbiaheh
07:57.23nymbiaah yeah
07:57.33Elkanowell, wrt GMs: http://bannable-offenses.blogspot.com/
07:58.00Tekkubthankies for the infos nym
07:58.00Tekkub:)
07:58.10nymbiaany time Tekkub :)
07:58.22TekkubBTW I do like what you've done to PT, I just don't wanna load all that for just pets
07:58.35nymbiaunderstandable for sure :)
07:58.35SunTigereeeuh
07:58.40SunTigeryeah new PT is BIG.
07:58.48Tekkubold PT was big
07:58.50Tekkub:P
07:58.52nymbiathat's why there's little LoD chunks! ;)
07:58.57SunTigernot this big
07:59.05nevcairielLoD'ing of PT breaks somehow
07:59.05SunTigerand it never needed caching like PT3 does.
07:59.28Elkanoand it naver had as much data as PT3 does ;)
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08:00.07nymbianevcairiel: hmm.. any errors or anything?
08:00.10TekkubI personally run the PT3 standalones, but for my release stuff I want supertiny embed versions
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08:00.16SunTigerwell, the original did not have any farming of wowhead
08:00.30SunTigerthat was tekkub going through alakazham BY HAND.
08:00.37nevcairielnymbia: i tried it when it was first added .. not sure if it works now :)
08:00.42Tekkubno I tried to farm alla a bit, but I like head better
08:00.46Tekkubeveryone likes head
08:00.50drinhehe :D
08:00.51SunTigerbecause its better
08:01.04SunTigerits not a mattar of taste its simply superior.
08:01.05nymbianevcairiel: it was a little funky the first time i added it, seems to work pretty well this time around though :)
08:01.18SunTigeri want wowhead for vangaurd
08:01.24SunTigervghead
08:01.37Tekkubvgcats?
08:02.01nevcairielvanhead imho
08:02.15SunTigervanhead.. yeah
08:02.19SunTigerthat sounds good.
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08:10.50DiaoFor pitbull to show enemy hp value does it require MH3?
08:11.18ckknightyes
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08:13.15kebinusannevcairiel: any chance of getting an option in bt3 to disable the shift dragging of buttons if buttons are locked? I keep editing the lua file locally to remove it when I update
08:13.26mitch0ckknight: do you have a bit of time to discuss the mana background patch? specifically, the passValue = { groupe, key} stuff.
08:13.30CIA-1103jerry * r33595 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_esES.lua: Talented_Data: update
08:13.36ckknightno
08:13.41ckknightwatching Entourage
08:13.45nevcairielkebinusan: yeah i could add that
08:13.48ckknightgime 28 minutes
08:13.51ckknightgimme*
08:13.55mitch0sure
08:14.14kebinusanI have macros with shift + button bindings and sometimes when I get excited and dragging my mouse around they come off
08:15.12mitch0don't click
08:15.49mitch0or at the very least, don't click stuff that also needs shift
08:18.08sylvanaarawrite, is anyone around that used embedded libs and WAU
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08:21.34mitch0anyone checked the LFG tool changes on PTR?
08:22.33mitch0do you get some sort of automatic notification on the LFG channel when something changes in an instance you signed up for? like "xx joined the queue for instance yy", "zz formed a group" etc?
08:22.36sylvanaaroh yes: files.wowace.com has been changed so that WAU 1.7 works for embedded libraries and changelogs
08:23.15sylvanaareveryone who is using WAU 1.6 must upgrade to 1.7 or choose another solution
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08:23.50mitch0svn up works for me. I just always cross my fingers when I do it :)
08:23.50Diaohmm
08:23.52Diaowith dogtag
08:23.58Diaoif I do [percenthp:percent]
08:24.06Diaoit just displays as 100 instead of 100% o_O
08:25.52NickenyfikenElkano: OK, i agree.
08:27.06CIA-1103rabbit * r33596 10PitBull/ (18 files in 18 dirs):
08:27.06CIA-11PitBull: Add fake locale tables to all modules, handed out by the core - makes
08:27.06CIA-11it easy to get a printout of the tables in-game, so eventually when real locales
08:27.06CIA-11are added, copy/paste from some in-game editor should just about do the trick.
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08:30.09Diaoso
08:30.25DiaoHow would I go about displaying the % sign when [percenthp:percent] doesn't show it :(
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08:32.21Diaonm, figured out a hack for it
08:32.26DiaoI just do [percenthp]%
08:32.27Diaolol
08:33.06mitch0hehe
08:33.26mitch0I don't think it's much of a hack. more like working as intended
08:33.58mitch0like you could also say: "HP: [percenthp]%" or what ever you like
08:35.23sylvanaarmitch0 there are no LFG changes
08:36.00Diaolol
08:36.04Diaowell in pitbull's documentation
08:36.14Diaoit said "Note: This does not include a percent sign. To use that, try [percenthp:percent]"
08:36.17Diao:p
08:36.18mitch0sylvanaar: but! but! they told us it's coming back :(
08:36.41mitch0Diao: oh well, docs are always misleading :)
08:36.42sylvanaarmitch0 all the tool does is let you access the LFG chat channel
08:36.47DiaoI thought they said you are automatically added to global LFG channel if you are in the LFG system
08:36.56sylvanaarmitch0 otherwise that channel is hidden
08:37.06mitch0sylvanaar: but is the join at least automatic?
08:37.33sylvanaarmitch0 i dont know, i was too busy laughing to notice
08:37.41mitch0hoho :)
08:37.43xyumy server has a player made LookingForGroup channel
08:37.47xyuw/ most of the server actually in it
08:39.16mitch0sylvanaar: too bad. this LFG thing needs some serious improvements... :(
08:39.16mitch0what ticks me off most is when I join a party for some random shmuck to port them somewhere, then I wait for hours and then realize I'm not on LFG ever since I ported that guy :(
08:39.25xyuhehe yep
08:39.43xyuand then i'm looking for heroics and have to select them again.  
08:40.12ckknightalright, back
08:40.24sylvanaarmitch0 i update CallToArms, and i use it
08:40.41ckknightDiao: [percenthp:percent] works for me
08:40.52mitch0btw, there seems to be an exploit like thing that lets you fly around. seems to involve duel+nova+poly
08:41.02sylvanaarnow you will have ppl, signing up for instances they dont want to go to just to talk in the lfg channel
08:41.05Diaolet me try installing MH3
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08:42.47sylvanaarits just like any other channel, its just hidden when you arent listed in the lfg tool. you control it from the chatframe, and its a server channel so there is not moderator
08:43.04mitch0ckknight: so, this was the second version of the patch I made, 'cos you suggested to avoid the handler and use passValue = { group, key}: http://ace.pastey.net/15811
08:43.34mitch0ckknight: but I don't think that actually works like that, as "key" would just be nil at the time it's put into the table
08:43.46ckknightbad.
08:43.48ckknightfix it
08:43.55mitch0but how?
08:43.59ckknightmagic, duh
08:44.07mitch0well, magic is the handler
08:44.09ckknightthink outside the box, man
08:44.14mitch0http://ace.pastey.net/15808
08:44.35ckknightbut you're doing passValue in the wrong place
08:44.40chuckgIs there an overhead difference in a gsub if you make a few things optional w/ the '?'?
08:44.45ckknightdo passValue inside the rage table
08:44.46ckknightand such
08:44.54ckknightso you have passvalue = { group, "rage" }
08:44.59mitch0ckknight: but that's butt ugly
08:45.03chuckgie: string_gsub(text, "|h%[?"..name.."%]?|h", replace)
08:46.13mitch0actually, it would be nice if pass = true and passValue could work simultaneously, but it would probly break a lot of code by now...
08:46.29mitch0oh well, I'll do the ugly way
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08:47.07ckknightmitch0: NO U
08:47.08CIA-1103ckknight * r33597 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - turned upgrade error into a message, also checks by revision.
08:51.50mitch0ckknight: here it is: http://ace.pastey.net/16349
08:52.43mitch0darn. merged something in. lemme check if it affects the patch
08:53.26mitch0ah, the localization stuff :( I'll fix it
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08:58.56Diaohmm
08:59.02dafirehi all .)
08:59.11DiaoWho wrote littlewigs again?
08:59.16DiaoI found out why pandemonius mod doesn't work
08:59.21CIA-1103pneumatus * r33598 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot_Data.lua:
08:59.21CIA-11ClassLoot:
08:59.21CIA-11- CHANGED> Signet of Unshakable Faith from Moroes in Karazhan
08:59.21CIA-11- CHANGED> Xavian Stiletto from Terestian Illhoof in Karazhan
08:59.24Diaohttp://ace.pastey.net/16351
08:59.27Diaofor littlewigs
09:00.24dafiredoes anybody know if it would be possible to create english combat log files ( with /combatlog ) by creating a small addon that sets the globalstings.lua constants from the enus client ?
09:00.27mitch0is this "L[xx]" magic work without any specail setup? I mean, do I have to add all the default values, or it'll return the key if there's no value?
09:00.51ckknightit'll return the key
09:00.54vhaarrDiao: ulic did, but I fixed it now.
09:00.55CIA-1103rabbit * r33599 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/Pandemonius.lua: LittleWigs: Pandemonius: Bugfix.
09:01.14mitch0ah, it does
09:03.24mitch0ckknight: here it is updated with the localization stuff: http://ace.pastey.net/16352
09:03.33mitch0ckknight: still drycoded
09:03.46ckknightdude, test
09:04.11mitch0I'll test in 8 hours then when I get home :)
09:07.49mitch0ckknight: btw, would it be hard to add support for just 2 more castbars (self and target) into PitBull? They would be identical to the ones present in the respective unit frames (if enabled), just could be placed at a different position (to replace the standard castbar)
09:08.16SunTigerisn't that the job of casting bar addons
09:08.19SunTigernot unit frames ?
09:08.48mitch0yeah, well, I kinda like the PitBull castbars :)
09:09.17mitch0and most of the work is done in pitbull anyway
09:11.49CIA-1103ckknight * r33600 10ChatThrottleLib/ChatThrottleLib.lua: ChatThrottleLib - remove a SETGLOBAL msg.
09:12.31ckknightmitch0: problem with what you're suggesting is that the frames are supposed to be in one chunk
09:12.36ckknightnot separate parts
09:12.51ckknightso I'd recommend using a casting bar addon for that
09:13.00sylvanaardafire yes it is
09:13.13CIA-1103ckknight * r33601 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - remove SETGLOBAL msg and message.
09:14.12dafiresylvanaar: thanks... it should not affect any addons that use parserlib when I make sure my addon loads first ?
09:15.18sylvanaardafire or at least it used to be, you can also change them to get additional text to print to the combat log, at least you could at one point
09:15.54CIA-1103ckknight * r33602 10Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua: .AceDebug-2.0 - apparently DEBUGGING and TOGGLE_DEBUGGING were global
09:15.56sylvanaarchanging them could break anything that uses them
09:16.07Fisker-nice
09:16.23Fisker-these goldfarmers apparently sell their gold for water
09:16.36Fisker-I could imagine it being hot in those sweatshops these days but still
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09:17.19ckknightFisker-: especially with all that global warming and all
09:18.13Fisker-yeah
09:18.48Fisker-they wrote shit: "<their company website> reminds you of cheap gold, save water. Shower with your girlfirend"
09:18.56Fisker-girlfriend*
09:19.30nymbiai don't buy that
09:19.39Fisker-:o?
09:19.41nymbiashowing with my girlfriend takes longer overall
09:19.47nymbia./cough
09:20.14Fisker-you don't have one
09:20.17Fisker-hehe
09:20.36nymbiathat's harsh.
09:20.52nymbiaactually i've been living with my girlfriend for a couple years now
09:21.36Megalonthe inflatable one? :c
09:22.02nymbiayeah
09:22.03Megalon*scmr
09:22.10Megalon*scnr*
09:22.10nymbiashe popped and i couldnt bear to replace her
09:22.13Megalon;>
09:22.18nymbiaso now she's a throw rug
09:23.36Fisker-wanna do it in my butt nymbia?
09:23.58nymbiadepends if my throw rug's invited
09:26.08CIA-1103ckknight * r33603 10Cartographer/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer - remove a bunch of SETGLOBALs
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09:26.15nevcairielheh
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09:26.43Fisker-nymbia you use ubuntu?
09:26.51nymbiayeah
09:27.24Fisker-do you use repositories for svn?
09:27.31Fisker-Can't find a cli svn client :(
09:28.13nymbiait's up there
09:28.43LateriaHi there. Have a problem for few days. I use ace'd addons and get a big amount of memory used (about 45Mo) and my game freeze every 2-3 seconds when raiding. I cannot find the addon which cause this. is there an addon which show memory usage for all addons ?
09:28.56Lateria( http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8034/addonsoy8.jpg for the list of addons I use)
09:29.16nymbiaLateria: not possible until WoW 2.1, try hopping on the test realm
09:29.55CIA-1103fenlis * r33604 10Incubator/ (Incubator.toc Locale-koKR.lua):
09:29.55CIA-11Incubator:
09:29.55CIA-11<PROTECTED>
09:29.59CIA-1103pneumatus * r33605 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot.lua:
09:29.59CIA-11ClassLoot:
09:29.59CIA-11- Bugfix for Auction-Start messages
09:30.04Fisker-got a name for it nymbia?
09:30.12nymbiaFisker-: subversion
09:30.16Fisker-weird
09:30.22Fisker-mine didn't find either svn or subversion
09:30.38LateriaOk, so I guess I have to find and replace older version of ace addons ?
09:30.39Fisker-found something called esvn though
09:30.41Fisker-seems to work
09:30.47Pneuwindows or nix?
09:30.52Silviu-http://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/36797/svn-1.4.3-setup.exe
09:31.09Silviu-Command line svn
09:31.09nymbiaLateria: probably not
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09:31.51Laterianymbia: those old version doesn't freeze my game so I guess something change on it
09:32.14dafireis 150 the max log range ?
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09:34.44ckknightLateria: recommendation: Get FuBar_PerformanceFu
09:35.05ckknightwait, you already have it
09:35.11ckknightmake sure it's up to date
09:35.22ckknightand set your addon memory to 0 (which means infinite)
09:35.36ckknightSW_Stats is likely causing a lot of the slowdown
09:35.56ckknightKTM too
09:36.01ckknightthose two are clinchers
09:36.11Lateriackknight: aced addons was updated yesterday and swstats and ktm are disabled
09:36.20ckknighthrm.
09:36.31Pneutried nuking your WTF/WDB to see if its SV corruption?
09:36.42ckknightI don't know what SphereLoader is
09:36.49ckknightor RaidOrganizer
09:37.05vhaarrLateria: My NRT pwns RaidOrganizer.
09:37.27Lateriasphereloader is a dependencie for totemus which is a shaman necrosis
09:37.32ckknightthe N stands for awesome
09:37.41ckknightawesome ...to the max!
09:37.43Lateriavhaar: oh thanks... was looking for a replacement
09:37.43vhaarrlol
09:37.54vhaarrLateria: well try it out, maybe it has what you need
09:37.54CIA-1103nymbia * r33606 10Doodle/Doodle.lua: Doodle: kill a couple accidental globals
09:38.46CIA-1103ckknight * r33607 10PitBull/ (6 files in 6 dirs): PitBull - remove assorted SETGLOBALs.
09:39.38vhaarrLateria: but seriously, I have no clue what could be causing freezes if it's not SWS or KTM.
09:40.26ckknightLateria: why have both agUF and sRF?
09:40.30vhaarrLateria: I would just disable some addons randomly, or download the PTR and log in there to see.
09:40.45vhaarrckknight: sRF is quite different from agUF in terms of looks and features.
09:40.57ckknightI honestly don't know
09:41.01ckknightnever tried sRF
09:41.02vhaarrI know you don't know
09:41.04vhaarrthat's why I told you
09:41.07ckknightalso, SmartDebuff is a hog, Lateria
09:41.12CIA-1103nymbia * r33608 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: GrindStatus: boo, one single global
09:41.17ckknightI want to have a 70 already
09:41.20ckknightto try out raiding
09:41.21vhaarrI would disable Skinner
09:41.23ckknightit seems fun in theory
09:41.28Lateriackknight: i use agUF for own frame, target and focus and sRF for raiding frames
09:41.30vhaarrSpamSentry, Squeenix
09:41.36Fisker-btw renchap
09:41.37nymbiackknight: you'll either love it or hate it
09:41.38Fisker-you're doing it wrong
09:41.39vhaarrAggro
09:41.43vhaarrLateria: nub
09:41.49vhaarrLateria: get my BanzaiAlert
09:41.54ckknightnymbia: I'm a paladin and I like healing
09:42.02renchapFisker-: yes ?
09:42.06ckknightLateria: to push my own agenda, try out PitBull instead of agUF
09:42.20Lateriackknight: yes, i know smartdebuff sucks ;)
09:42.38ckknightLateria: instead of SmartDebuff, maybe try Grid + Click2Cast?
09:42.46ckknightpossibility
09:42.57vhaarrwhat's smartdebuff?
09:43.08Lateriaa "decursive" like
09:43.10ckknighton wowi as well
09:43.15ckknightvhaarr: like a Grid + Click2Cast combined
09:43.16vhaarrwell we have Decursive
09:43.18vhaarrckknight: okay
09:43.54vhaarrLateria: BANZAAAII
09:44.02ckknightLateria: possibly try MSBT instead of SCI
09:44.03ckknightSCT*
09:44.05dottedGrid+Click2Cast is kinda overkill if its just for decursing :o?
09:44.08Pneui love Grid & C2C they are my 2 new fav toys
09:44.28Pneui used to love CastParty till it got shit :<
09:44.35vhaarryeah CP was nice
09:44.39vhaarrat version 4 or whatever
09:44.52CIA-1103nymbia * r33609 10ManufacSnoop/ManufacSnoop.lua: ManufacSnoop: <insert witty message about globals here>
09:44.52vhaarrmaybe it was version 3
09:44.54ckknightif I do, I'd make it awesomesauce
09:44.56vhaarrbeen so long :<
09:45.05dotted[@ckknight]: Lateria: possibly try MSBT instead of SCT <- is SCT really that bad :o?
09:45.07Pneuv3 was nice, 4 started getting a mess
09:45.11Pneuand 5 beta is no better
09:45.13vhaarrdotted: no, it's not.
09:45.16mitch0ckknight: :)
09:45.17vhaarrckknight is just on crack.
09:45.20ckknightdotted: I said maybe. SCT's not bad
09:45.23dottedthought so
09:45.30mitch0ckknight: but MSBT is already kina awesome
09:45.44ckknightsome people find MSBT more efficient
09:45.44ckknightbut I haven't seen hard numbers
09:45.55vhaarrhardly
09:45.59dafirei like the dot-combine feature on msbt .. but it should not wait the time to show incoming damage... killed me on gruul when i didn't noticed the stone shower in time ;9
09:45.59ckknightmitch0: but it's not Ace, and therefore not under my autocratic control
09:46.01mitch0ckknight: write a castbar replacement instead :) and make that awesome, too :)
09:46.03ckknighttherefore, sux
09:46.22Lateriackknigth: msbt is not a aced addon ?
09:46.31Pneuarchud2 works as my castbar replacement :)
09:46.36vhaarrLateria: forget about sct vs msbt, it's not causing your problem
09:47.29dafirebecause candybar is really not the right thing to display a castingbar
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09:47.39dottedok
09:48.48mitch0can I find some screenies about the different PitBull layouts?
09:48.58ckknightforum
09:48.58CIA-1103nymbia * r33610 10PitBull_InteractLines/PitBull_InteractLines.lua: PitBull_InteractLines: all over globals like Fisker- on his cousin
09:49.01ckknightor just load it
09:49.06ckknightand see for yourself
09:49.10Worfhmm - is there some addon out there that fixes bad mood and guilds breaking apart?
09:49.11mitch0ckknight: in 7 hours :)
09:49.14ckknightlol, nymbia
09:49.16mitch0but then I'll forget
09:49.22nymbia;)
09:49.37ckknightWorf: yea, it's called joining a good guild :-P
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09:49.55SunTigerguilds fall apart
09:49.58SunTigerits normal
09:50.05SunTigerpeople quit the game, and new people join.
09:50.08SunTigerthats how it works.
09:50.27ckknightbut SunTiger's quite right
09:50.53Worfwell, it's was not normal for me. my guild existed since beta and always was quite stable. but now... well, time will tell
09:51.01Worfand yeah. SunTiger is still right
09:51.09mitch0Worf: "progress" issues? :)
09:51.15SunTigerworf, the guild i was in was around for since the start of this server
09:51.21Pneubigger guilds seem to have suffered the most from BC, half the big guilds on my realm split and formed new smaller ones
09:51.21SunTigeryet it officially died this sunday.
09:51.28SunTigerwas i sad, a bit.
09:51.33SunTigerbut hey, it happens.
09:52.12Worfwell - basically the most successful Karazhan group of our guild did leave
09:52.26CIA-1103nymbia * r33611 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.lua: PT3Browser: setting _G._ is gonna get me shot one of these days
09:52.49WorfBC sucks
09:52.51nevcairieli bet half the addons set _G._
09:53.01vhaarryeah :P
09:53.05nymbiathat's the first one of mine actually
09:53.18ckknightnevcairiel: yea
09:53.20nymbiaeasy mistake to make though
09:53.37vhaarrnymbia: link = select(2, GetItemInfo(text))
09:55.25ZealotOnAStickHmm.
09:55.29nymbiavhaarr: but but.. extra call to a function that i dont have a local copy of! :(
09:55.44nevcairieli need grep on windows, without installing cygwin now :P
09:55.44vhaarr:P
09:55.51ZealotOnAStickOk, Prismatic spray, and which of these: Finger of Death, Shadow Shield,or Mordenkainen's sword?
09:56.06CIA-1103ckknight * r33612 10FuBar_AmmoFu/AmmoFu.lua: FuBar_AmmoFu - remove SETGLOBAL isAmmo
09:56.27kaideni have been cat sitting for a friend going through a divorce for almost a year now.. and the cat has just shredded my last nerve with her constant whining (loud meowing non stop)
09:56.52dafirehmm.. currently cpu profiling is blaming ace2 for most cpu time .. is there a change this changes to blame the correct addon ? :9
09:57.21mitch0kaiden: :)
09:57.25Cyreznevcairiel: I've used a program called agrep that was able to do what I needed, and it's Win32 native.
09:58.01ZealotOnAStickYou tried petting her or playing with her?
09:58.05CIA-1103ckknight * r33613 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFu.lua: FuBar_ClockFu - remove SETGLOBALs
09:58.12vhaarrdafire: unfortunately, no
09:58.16kaidenshe's a horribly skiddish cat
09:58.19kaidennobody can get around her
09:58.33vhaarrkaiden: Also remember that cats need food.
09:58.39kaidenshe has plenty of food
09:58.40kaidenand water
09:58.48kaideni have a huge auto dispenser for both
09:58.53CIA-1103ckknight * r33614 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu - removed SETGLOBALs
09:59.08evl\blendHmms
09:59.09kaidenmy other cat is nothing like her she barely makes a peep
09:59.11evl\blendmake a cat burger
09:59.12kaidenthis cat is just evil
09:59.14CIA-1103tekkub * r33615 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
09:59.14CIA-11FuBar_CorkFu
09:59.14CIA-11- Updated minipet list
09:59.14CIA-11- Converted minipets to use mini-embed PT
09:59.14CIA-11- Fixed logic error in clam shucker
09:59.15CIA-1103nymbia * r33616 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.lua: SpellBinder: ouch, 3 globals in this one.. could use some overall cleanup too one of these days
09:59.16evl\blendor even,. do like miyazaki, make a cat bus
09:59.17kaidenevl\blend, i'm contemplating it
09:59.22CIA-1103ckknight * r33617 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ExperienceFu.lua: FuBar_ExperienceFu - removed SETGLOBAL _
09:59.56kaidenthe ONLY way to make this cat quiet is to put her in her carrier and put a drape over the cage
10:00.00kaidenthat's the only time she doesn't whine
10:00.21vhaarrso she misses her former owner then
10:00.21CIA-1103ckknight * r33618 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - remove SETGLOBAL width
10:00.32kaidenvhaarr, for a full year?
10:00.34dafirehmm.. just an idea .. would it be possible to create some kind of local ace2 that can be used as external to all addons so every addon uses its own ace2 copy? this would use much more memory and stuff but would make it possible to compare the addons .)
10:00.39kaidencats have a very short memory span from what i read
10:00.52vhaarrkaiden: that's not true
10:01.11vhaarrmy parents cat remembers me just fine after not seeing me for 6-8 months
10:01.26kaideni guess one of my cats is retarded :P you tell her not to do something and she stops and 10 minutes later she's doing it again hehe
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10:01.41kaidenmy other cat is funny she sneaks up into my chair and i sit on her everytime i come back to it
10:01.43kaidenshe never learns
10:01.52CIA-1103ckknight * r33619 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: FuBar_MoneyFu - remove SETGLOBAL cat
10:02.05GagorianMaybe the comfort outweighs the risk?
10:02.19vhaarrhaha probably
10:02.22kaidenlol no she just likes warm spots, she keeps everyones chair warm for them
10:02.33kaideneverytime someone gets up she darts for the chair and jumps up and snuggles into it
10:02.49GagorianLike I said.. comfort!
10:03.02ckknightalright, looks like I'm done
10:03.21kaideni dunno if you'd call smelling ass constantly comfortable ;)
10:04.08kaidenshe's more like a dog than any cat i know, she rolls on her back and wants you to play with her belly everytime you come into the room
10:04.38nymbiackknight: heh, once i get finished with mine i'll probably attack other stuff i use.. this is just too handy
10:04.48CIA-1103nymbia * r33620 10Stitch-1.1/Stitch-1.1/Stitch-1.1.lua: Stitch-1.1: Now 100% less abusive to defenseless _G.isenchant-s everywhere.
10:04.55ckknightI saw other addons
10:04.59ckknightdoing bad stuff
10:05.02ckknightlike setting L
10:05.16nymbiaew
10:05.27GagorianHow are you checking for globals?
10:05.41ckknightluac -l -p file.lua|grep SETGLOBAL
10:05.48CyrezEverything looks good so far, no errors.
10:05.59CyrezAnd my memory usage is down by a meg. <3
10:06.10ckknightCyrez: what're you testing?
10:06.25CyrezEverything you just updated, pretty much, I have.
10:06.41ckknight*shrug*
10:06.41CyrezCart and FuBar.
10:06.50nymbiathat shouldnt have helped -that- much O.o
10:06.57ckknightthere's no reason why what I did should lower you memory by a meg
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10:07.12kaidenckknight, never doubt the placebo effect
10:07.19CyrezWell, it did, and all I did was update everything.
10:07.47ckknightlol
10:07.47ckknightoh well
10:07.47ckknight*thumbs up*
10:07.54ckknightI did it
10:08.02CyrezYeah, it's definately lower for some reason.
10:08.18CyrezUsed to be around 51.2 or so when idle and clean.
10:08.23CyrezNow it's about 50.
10:08.29Gagorian51.2 O_O
10:08.31nymbiamaybe AceEvent?  when had you last updated before tonight?
10:08.43CyrezUpdated that, too.
10:09.09nymbiabut when was your last update?  tonight's commit did nothing, last night's did a lot
10:09.13ckknight50's a lot
10:09.19CIA-1103sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33621 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat_AutoLoD/autolod.lua: Prat: updated to act as dumb stub loader also
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10:09.42CyrezI update whenever I see changes.
10:09.42CIA-1103nymbia * r33622 10StitchUI/StitchUI.lua: StitchUI: _G.queue
10:10.21CyrezSeriously, though, a few hours ago it was using more script memory.
10:10.24Pneui only use 41mb and i have all kinds of dirty addons like mobinfo-2 and swstats
10:10.45kaidenbleh installing office 12 :(
10:11.00nymbiaman, i prod the gc whenever mine gets over 30
10:11.20CIA-1103sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33623 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat.lua: Prat: Pass a flag to autoLoD to make it behave as a dumb stub loader
10:11.46CyrezI've got some memory-hungry addons as well, but it doesn't really bother me too much.
10:12.04nymbiaas long as they're not being nasty with that memory
10:12.14vhaarryeah it shouldn't bother a user too much, but we're developers, WE should worry about it.
10:12.14nymbiait wont really mess with your performance
10:12.28DiaoI feel so stupid
10:12.30CyrezGot enough memory in this box to run two MMO's at once, anyway, lol.
10:12.33CyrezWhich I did, once.
10:12.36CyrezSWG and CoH.
10:12.45DiaoI finally found where to change the setting for pitbull barfader
10:12.54Diaoto make it fade more slowly
10:13.07nymbiaone time on huhuran we had a guy 4-boxing.. two computers, two instances per computer
10:13.25kaidennymbia, back in the day that was easy, no longer
10:13.34kaideni used to 5 box all the instances at level 60
10:13.44nymbiawhy is it harder these days?
10:13.45kaidenthen they nerf'd various abilities (logic)
10:13.54nymbiaoh
10:14.05kaidenwhen they nerf'd logic i just said bleh not worth bothering and got rid of all of my nostromos
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10:14.31kaidenthough it was indeed fun never having to look for a priest :)
10:14.33CIA-1103sylvanaar 072.0b4 * r33624 10Prat/: Prat: Tagging current ptr version as beta 4
10:14.39nymbiawell it was huhuran, we just needed two of em for soaking
10:14.45CIA-1103rabbit * r33625 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Fix modules with _validate options.
10:14.53nymbiarun em in, stick em on autoattack, done
10:15.02CyrezI could juggle two characters on two machines if their UI's are tuned to my liking. But not, let's say, my own toon and my roommate's toon. That doesn't work too well.
10:15.12CIA-1103ckknight * r33626 10PitBull/ (Experience/Experience.lua Reputation/Reputation.lua):
10:15.12CIA-11PitBull - disable Experience and Repuation on the player by default. I like Experience on my pet, so that stays on by default.
10:15.12CIA-11Seriously, just get FuXPFu, people.
10:15.21kaideni can still currently, but blizzard would get very angry at me if i did
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10:15.44kaideni wrote a keyboard / mouse sharing app based around the synergy code that sends what you do on one system to however many systems you want
10:15.55kaidenso if your ui was exactly the same and they were all the same classes
10:16.31Megalonmhm
10:16.38kaidenneedless to say i dont do that :P
10:16.41kaidenit's pointless and risky
10:16.43Elkanowow, I wondered why my tank values as a bear suck... now I noiced that they were calculated against a lvl 73 mob ^^
10:17.25Elkanockknight: will petXP disable itself between levels?
10:17.45CIA-1103rabbit * r33627 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Revert the locale changes, sorry.
10:17.56ckknightElkano: you mean when petLevel = playerLevel?
10:18.11CyrezI was wondering that, myself.
10:18.30GagorianThe pitbull frame background is one pixel or so narrower on the bottom side than the top
10:18.33Elkanoexactly, so when your pet is currently maxed
10:18.38GagorianMAJOR BUG!
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10:18.57ckknightGagorian: you fix it.
10:19.05KirkburnGagorian, I've got the same. Could be a scaling thing
10:19.11kaidenanyone here run multiple computers and ever looked into Windows DFS to keep your Interface/WTF folders the same across all computers?
10:19.31CIA-1103ckknight * r33628 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make the "Show 5-man raid as party" in both the raid and party options.
10:19.34ckknightKirkburn: could be a legitimate bug
10:19.53KirkburnIt could indeed.
10:20.03KirkburnBut I've seen the same in agUF previously
10:20.05Dynomkaiden: no; why ?
10:20.21kaidenDynom, i was just thinking of doing and wondered if anyone else had already done it and wondered how well it worked
10:20.29kaideni know windows dfs has it's fair share of problems
10:20.39vhaarrkaiden: "Windows DFS", what's that, rsync recompiled to win32 with Microsoft copyright notices tagged on?
10:20.54Elkanois there any doc on expo available?
10:20.57GagorianIt's in Layouts?
10:21.03kaidenvhaarr, no because rsync actually works
10:21.08vhaarrah
10:21.13kaidenvhaarr :P it's their sad attempt at a distributed file system
10:21.25kaidenwe use it where i work on alot of our web servers
10:21.28vhaarrwell you can't blame them for trying
10:21.42vhaarrkaiden: apache.org this way ->
10:21.47CyrezWell, there's other issues to consider.
10:22.00CyrezLike, they'd all have to be running WoW at the same resolution.
10:22.09CIA-1103ckknight * r33629 10PitBull/ (Layouts/Seerah.lua PitBull.toc): PitBull - add the "Seerah" layout. Courtesy of Seerah on the forum.
10:22.20Dynomkaiden: is it a nfs alike ?
10:22.38kaidennfs? network file system?
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10:22.51Dynomyeah.. ?
10:22.54ElkanoKirkburn, fix wowwiki
10:23.12kaidenwindows dfs is a service that runs on a domain controller and you basically tell it the parent folder and then the folders to replicate out to
10:23.19Dynoms/fix wowwiki/fix wowwiki please/
10:23.26KirkburnNo you fix it :P
10:23.28kaidenthe unc paths that is to replicate out to
10:23.35ckknightKirkburn: you're doing it wrong
10:23.39ckknightit's like this
10:23.39ckknightNO U
10:23.49Dynomkaiden: so it's not realtime ?
10:23.53Kirkburn:)
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10:24.27kaidenlike all replication it uses a polling system on each of the sub computers to poll the distributor for new data
10:24.31kaidenthat's it's problem
10:24.48kaidenthe replicated servers do the polling so sometimes the dc will just ignore a request and not update them
10:25.02Dynomyeah, kinda like a samba system
10:25.05CIA-1103pneumatus * r33630 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot.lua:
10:25.05CIA-11ClassLoot:
10:25.05CIA-11- Something something SETGLOBAL
10:25.16CIA-1103sylvanaar 072.0b3 * r33631 10Prat/: Prat: Tagging trunk line as beta 3
10:25.20nymbiasee? addictive!
10:25.26Pneu;)
10:25.30nymbiahehe
10:25.38Pneuthought i should check and sure enough, one line not declared local
10:25.51Dynombut, WTF is only written on reload or logout; so itshould be that big of a problem imo
10:25.57CIA-1103rabbit * r33632 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: .CandyBar-2.0: _______
10:26.49kaidenDynom, isn't samba just a link to a home media share?
10:27.05kaideninstead of replicating data it just pulls the data from 1 central source
10:27.05nymbialol vhaarr
10:27.11vhaarr^^
10:27.12kaidensort of like a network symlink
10:27.24Dynomkaiden: it's dir sharing for linux to windows; but the principle of upating is the same if I hear your explenation
10:27.29kaidenbtw if nobody knows about junction it's a win2k tool that makes wow + multiple accounts and or characters very fun
10:27.34Dynomor windows to linux rather
10:27.36kaidenyou can create symlinks in windows with it
10:27.38Dynomincluding dns, etc
10:28.41kaideni used to be a linux lover hardcore, but i work for a domain registrar now and they refuse to run anything except windows
10:28.42kaiden:(
10:29.35Worfkaiden: i can feel your pain
10:29.51kaideni guess that's the life of working 1 block from microsoft :P
10:29.56kaidengotta run their software or you'll get shot down
10:30.02vhaarrlol
10:30.58mitch0ckknight: btw, I see on the forums that some chaps are complaining about the alpha setting for various bar colors. as far as I saw in the code, the alpha setting is indeed not saved, and that's how I did my health/mana bar modifications, too. is taht intentional?
10:31.48nymbiawe've got an AMD research lab and an intel research lab on opposite corners of an intersection here.. i wonder what happens to the other nearby businesses.
10:33.11Worfnymbia: usb rocket launcher wars?
10:33.22nymbialol
10:33.28kaidenwell i know we have a contract with microsoft where they require us to not run linux on anything in our production
10:33.35kaidenif we want reduced prices on our licensing
10:33.42nymbiathat's amazing
10:34.55kaideni've actually been eyeing the apt complexes directly in front of microsoft campus, took a tour of one the other day, gotta give it to ms they keep their apt complexes very nifty lookin
10:34.57Worfkaiden: you gotta be careful not to have a video recorder, cellphone or some embedded hardware with linux on in the building then :)
10:35.03kaidengranite counter tops, fully furnished everything
10:35.36kaidengranted and i mean absolutely NO offense by this
10:35.37Dynomwell doh
10:35.40kaidenif you can't stomach the smell of curry
10:35.46kaidenyou definitely dont wanna live there
10:35.46nymbiahow much do those run ya kaiden
10:36.06kaidenthey are about 1300 a month
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10:37.15kaidenthey also come furnished with net access from comcast and microsoft
10:37.33kaidenand of course wifi shared from teh campus
10:37.35nymbiathat's not bad, considering
10:38.13kaidenyeah it's not too awful, housing here is just skyrocketing... even the crappy plots of land are up to 600k to 1 million dollars
10:38.41kaideni live in renton highlands which is far cheaper than bellevue and the cheapest around here is 450k for a 3 bedroom brick home
10:40.59kaidenwho writes SharedMedia?
10:41.47vhaarrkaiden: many
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10:42.10kaidenElkano! :P heya, if i give you a very small texture (same exact size as Smooth.tga) you think you might wanna include it? dont wanna change anything without your permission of course
10:42.31kaidenit's a much better version of the Smooth texture that Rothar released publicly awhile ago
10:42.46Elkanokaiden, anyone is free to contribute working textures to SharedMedia
10:43.04kaidenElkano, ooh :) ok bleh.. now i have to go get an svn client
10:43.17kaidenis there a wiki on the guidelines of updating mods on the svn?
10:43.20Elkanomuharrharrr
10:43.57CIA-1103sylvanaar * r33633 10Prat/ (117 files in 13 dirs): Prat: PTR Version Beta 4 Merge To Trunk
10:44.51Elkanosylvanaar, it will still work with 2.0.x, won't it?
10:45.30CIA-1103sylvanaar * r33634 10Prat/filelist.wau: Prat: Dont autounpack for now
10:45.39sbuSaroz: wtb "Show 5-man raid as party" for sRaidFrames :o
10:45.43sylvanaarElkano yes
10:45.48CIA-1103nymbia * r33635 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua:
10:45.48CIA-11PitBull: Layout-ABF:
10:45.48CIA-11- @Gnarfoz: please keep tab style consistent.
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10:48.13xyui think ArenaMaster is broken or some addon isn't playing w/ it nicely
10:48.33Fisker-no Elkano obviously not
10:48.33Fisker-rawr
10:50.24kaidenKirkburn, have you ever figured out why sometimes Clearfont refuses to skin the chatframe with anything other than the Default font?
10:50.35CIA-1103gagorian * r33636 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
10:50.35CIA-11DrDamage:
10:50.35CIA-11-SETGLOBAL.. rabble rabble.. removed.. rabble rabble.
10:50.35CIA-11-Squatted one global variable and three functions
10:50.46Kirkburn|afkkaiden, nope, but if someone could take a look ...
10:50.56kaidenKirkburn|afk, lazy brit! :P
10:50.57Kirkburn|afkI'm just off to Uni now, back later all!
10:50.59Kirkburn|afkhehe
10:51.03kaidenhave fun and be safe
10:51.09evl\blendOMG!
10:51.16evl\blendSo much drama in PitBull SVN messages
10:51.31evl\blendit's like... DVS - Drama Version System™
10:51.39nymbiahell yes
10:51.47MegalonPitBull - An Ace SoapOpera!
10:51.54nymbiadid you see the one about Fisker- ?  i liked that one.
10:52.05nymbianot a pibull mesage, though, i suppose.
10:52.20nymbias/pib/pitb/
10:52.43evl\blendsomeone needs to rip off another CT mod tbh
10:52.46evl\blendso we can get some real drama
10:52.49kaidenPitBull's the future, i am praying for a highly configurable panel somewhat like the discordmods panel to allow easy configuration of your frames, and maybe a seperate addon with the ability to export your custom layout so you can send it off to other people? :)
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10:52.59GagorianThanks for the luac SETGLOBAL tip.. soo easy to use.
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10:56.17CIA-1103nymbia * r33637 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/ (PitBull_EstimatedHeals.toc libs/):
10:56.17CIA-11PitBull_EstimatedHeals:
10:56.17CIA-11- Oops, embed Babble-Spell.
10:56.51GagorianIs there any way to do this more efficiently?
10:56.52Gagorianfor _,frame in ipairs( { button:GetChildren() } ) do
10:57.27evl\blendkaiden: it's probably what waterfall is i think
10:58.08kaidenevl\blend, nah lots of the options i'm looking for are missing currently but slowly working their way in, the team making it is really kickin ass
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10:58.59nymbiaGagorian: with a little mangling you could do it without the table
11:00.36CIA-1103nymbia * r33638 10PitBull_RangeCheck/ (PitBull_RangeCheck.toc libs/):
11:00.36CIA-11PitBull_RangeCheck:
11:00.36CIA-11- Embed Babble-Spell here too.
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11:01.32Gagoriannymbia: It updates rather often for actionbar buttons so that should reduce memory increase.. How would that mangling happen?
11:02.48nymbiaGagorian: where's it in DrDamage? i'll throw together a pastey
11:03.51GagorianWoah. Apparently I do it twice, even if once would be enough by passing it over
11:04.06nymbiaheh ;)
11:04.15GagorianWell I'll tell you the first spot and then fix that up.. sec.
11:04.24Gagorian1681
11:04.31NargiddleyGagorian: something like local function doStuff(...) local frame = ... if frame then <stuff> doStuff(select(2,...)) end end
11:04.51Nargiddleyand then doStuff( button:GetChildren() )
11:05.49[Ammo]mornnig
11:05.57Nargiddleymorning
11:11.09nymbiaGagorian: well first off, might be best to move ProcessButton out of :UpdateAB so that it doesn't create a new closure every time, and instead pass it disable, hide, manaUpdate, and updateSpell
11:12.16GagorianYeah, that's true. That update code is a bit clonky, hence I'm trying to optimize it :p
11:12.26nymbia:)
11:13.18Nargiddleyack i'm so tempted to start something that i just know will turn out taking way too much time
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11:13.44nymbiaooh what're you thinkin Nargiddley ?
11:14.06NargiddleyRewrite baggins from the ground up
11:14.32nymbiacould be fun :D
11:14.48Nargiddleyproperly allow all the fancy stuff that people want added into the frames, and get the filtering system redone from what i learned along the way
11:15.28Fisker-I want onebag with filtering
11:15.29Fisker-:P
11:15.40nymbiaGagorian: i'll wait to throw that together til you get those consolidated, since it'll probably be a bit more complex once they're consolidated
11:15.41Fisker-kind like it his when the bag has been plowed
11:15.56nymbiaFisker-: WHINER
11:16.00evl\blendomg
11:16.02evl\blendso much drama
11:16.06Fisker-QQ nymbia
11:16.14Gagoriannymbia: Sure. I should be done now, testing
11:16.25evl\blendI loved the bullets on PTR "Less QQ, more pew pew"
11:16.26Fisker-Less ircing moar PT3 datamining
11:16.50evl\blendbtw; any ETA on 2.1?
11:17.02nymbiaprobably another 2-3 weeks
11:17.19sylvanaarzomg 2.1 live! j/k
11:17.27nymbiahaha
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11:19.54kaidenguys, quick question, after a ui loads does ChatFontNormal become protected and inaccessible?
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11:22.16nymbiait.. shouldnt.
11:22.55kaidenit seems to, as once the ui has loaded i'm unable to do a SetFont on ChatFontNormal to change the chatframes font used
11:23.23sylvanaaryou have to change all the fontstrings imo
11:24.10kaidenthis would be much easier if i could just do ChatFrame:SetFont
11:24.11kaiden:(
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11:25.44CIA-1103gagorian * r33639 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua ItemSets.lua):
11:25.44CIA-11DrDamage:
11:25.44CIA-11-Killed two more global variables
11:25.44CIA-11-And stuff.
11:26.15Gagoriannymbia: Done. First time on line 1741. Actually only case where double checks might occur is if a frame needs to be hidden then refreshed, but I could pass it in that case over
11:33.56CIA-1103gagorian * r33640 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
11:33.56CIA-11DrDamage:
11:33.56CIA-11-Use frame name instead of ID for recognition
11:34.06sylvanaaryou also may need to stop the blizzard code from processing UPDATE_CHAT_WINDOWS
11:35.23kaidensylvanaar, have any examples of interrupting blizzard code from processing that event?
11:35.36sylvanaarnoz
11:35.50kaidenerm events in general then? :P
11:36.11kaideni'd wowwiki it but i'm only getting a white page when i try to load it
11:37.17sylvanaarbut that event loads teh font size from the frame then sets it again
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11:40.02sylvanaarwhy dont you call SetFont on the chatframe
11:40.53kaidenbecause you can't
11:41.04sylvanaarwhy not
11:41.13CIA-1103ammo * r33641 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: make sure Cast Bar has it's own options group, so the 'height' setting from ABF ends up in there instead of as a random height setting in the main menu
11:41.20nymbiaGagorian: well, my testing consisted of logging on and checking to see if the world exploded, but it looks fine... http://ace.pastey.net/16392
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11:42.02kaidensylvanaar, throws: attempt to index global 'ChatFrame' ( a nil value)
11:42.14sylvanaarChatFrame1
11:42.33Gagoriannymbia, it's enough.. I'll make sure it works properly. Thanks
11:42.39sylvanaarthere is no ChatFrame
11:42.40nymbiaGagorian: :)
11:42.49kaidensylvanaar, has no effect when you do that
11:42.54sylvanaarChatFrame1 - ChatFrame7
11:43.30kaidenhas no effect, doesn't throw an error but also does not do anything and doing change the FontString that frame says it's using
11:43.38sylvanaarwhat is your font file name
11:44.59kaidensylvanaar, /script ChatFrame1:SetFont("Interface\Addons\ClearFont2\Fonts\Calibri_v1\Calibri.ttf", 14) is how i am calling it just for testing
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11:46.41sylvanaar- /script ChatFrame1:SetFont("Fonts\\Calibri_v1\\Calibri.ttf", 14)
11:46.55kaidenyup \\'s are working now but the question is
11:47.11kaidenis there a way to add an extra \ to something that doesn't include the double \'s
11:47.24sylvanaar?
11:47.35sylvanaarthat works what i just pasted
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11:48.29kaidenyup
11:48.52kaidenI had tried it before and it threw errors
11:49.23sylvanaarcause the path was wrong
11:49.55kaidenoh i see, i was mistaking a /print'd var's path info which automatically removes the extra \ before it shows it
11:49.57nymbiaa single \ in a lua string is an escape
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11:50.06kaidenso i was assuming it wasn't passing the double \'s
11:50.09kaidenok sowwy
11:50.26kaidenwell hey sylvanaar you just fixed the most annoying clearfont2 bug
11:50.35kaidenthat kirk's been putting off fixing for ... months
11:50.36kaiden;P
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11:51.14sylvanaarlol, say something nice about prat in the CF thread =)
11:51.26nymbiahehe
11:51.31kaideni'm using it now rawr
11:51.33kaidenprat that is
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11:52.17sylvanaaro.O day-0 beta 4 *hide*
11:52.58kaidensylvanaar, what's your personal svn client of choice
11:54.50sylvanaartortise, but i like guis
11:55.45sylvanaarlol i just looked at the clearfont code, no wonder it kept reverting
11:55.59Megalonjust installed PitBull: is there a reason why my focus-frame (width 160, scale 100%) is actually wider than my player-frame (width 165, 100% scale)
11:56.11Megaloni always thought that 165 > 160 :x
11:56.15ckknightbecause you touch yourself at night
11:56.19nymbiaobviously not.
11:56.26[Ammo]the touching would cause it
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11:56.35kaidensylvanaar, what's wrong with it?
11:56.39Megalonwell
11:56.44Megalonthen
11:56.49Megaloni'll have to uninstall pitbull
11:56.56Megalonas i won't stop the touchy thing
11:57.05Megalonor live with it, mhm
11:57.08sylvanaarevery time UPDATE_CHAT_WINDOWS is fired, teh font file name is loaded from the chatframe and then reapplied
11:57.30sylvanaarsince you guys werent setting it, it wouldnt stick
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11:58.05sylvanaaryou need to call setfont for each chatframe
11:58.38kaidenwell i always thought that changing ChatFontNormal which is what the chatframes are supposed to use as their font would make it pull that font
11:59.05kaidenbut i only dable compared to you guys, the only time i ever do anything in lua is when i dont like something about a mod i change it :P
11:59.42sylvanaarno, the font filename is attached to the frame when the frame is created
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12:10.26venABF layout for Pitbull is broken. mana bar is 1-2px off. again. :(
12:11.19ckknightyou fix it
12:11.26sylvanaarkaiden you want to commit the change? or want me to?
12:11.58kaidensylvanaar, i'm still getting tortoiseSVN setup, you can if you want
12:12.06[Ammo]ven: it's fine for me
12:12.20kaideni'm trying to fly and get some quests done before the servers go down in 6 minutes
12:12.21kaiden;P
12:13.39CIA-1103gagorian * r33642 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
12:13.39CIA-11DrDamage:
12:13.40CIA-11-No more tables for frame children, they shall eat on the floor!
12:13.41CIA-1103fenlis * r33643 10Niagara/Niagara.lua:
12:13.41CIA-11Niagara:
12:13.41CIA-11<PROTECTED>
12:13.55CIA-1103sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33644 10Prat/ClearFont2/Design.lua: Fix for chatframe's not keeping thier font
12:14.08sylvanaaroh hrm
12:14.30venit's overlapping the border-bottom for me. there's a 1px space between health and mana bar for me
12:14.55kaidenlol ;p
12:15.10kaidenbrb rebooting for tortoise
12:15.30GagorianAny difference in 'if not boner then boner = DoIt() end' and boner = boner or DoIt();
12:15.31Gagorian?
12:15.54Fisker-no Gagorian
12:15.57Fisker-WE SHALL DINE IN HELL
12:16.07GagorianWell, not functionality wise.. performance!
12:16.25venI just changed the SetPoint call for the mana bar to remove the gap and it's fine again
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12:18.07anenigmaFisker-: It's "Tonight we dine in hell", geez :P
12:21.02ckknightyes, Gagorian
12:21.04venI had cast bars deactivated. With enabled cast bars, it's not overlapping the borders.
12:21.09ckknightthe former is more efficient
12:21.21ckknightas you see, in the latter, you will always be setting boner
12:21.31ckknightbut in the former, you only set it in that one condition
12:21.46ckknightalso, gay
12:22.31[Ammo]ven: there should be a 1 px spacve
12:22.31ckknightso brainstorming time. How should PitBull show Rare and/or Elite mobs?
12:22.44anenigmawith fireworks!
12:22.47kenlyricno, actually, it's "stop referencing the same goddamn line in that fucking movie"
12:22.47Finmake them blinking
12:22.59Stephmwckknight: cheesy look? how about the animated highlighting as seen on pet bars?
12:23.03kenlyricOur bees will block out the sun is *far* superior.
12:23.13ckknightanimated highlighting?
12:23.14anenigmaactually, use <marquee> !
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12:23.20[Ammo]ckknight: like agUF
12:23.26[Ammo]rare 64
12:23.29[Ammo]rare-elite 64
12:23.34ven[Ammo], that would be fine for me, but without cast bar the mana bar is still overlapping the border for me
12:23.38Stephmwckknight: looks like a cheap fire effect rotating around the button
12:23.47[Ammo]ven: hmm then that should be an extra check I think
12:23.53Stephmwckknight: GroupCalendar uses it as its 'today' highlight
12:24.41mitch0the whole unitframe should blink bright red
12:24.57Stephmwmitch0: too much like the Banzai aggro warning
12:24.59CIA-1103sylvanaar * r33645 10ClearFont2/Design.lua: ClearFont2: Fix for chatframe's not keeping thier font setting. I dont think it should have ever worked without this code.
12:25.00Ordogyay!
12:25.02CIA-1103fenlis * r33646 10Prat/ (14 files in 2 dirs):
12:25.02CIA-11Prat:
12:25.03CIA-11<PROTECTED>
12:25.17ckknight[Ammo]: how does agUF do it?
12:25.22ckknightI can't tell from the code
12:25.29mitch0Stephmw: uh. there actually are addons that do something like that? /avoid :)
12:25.42ckknightmitch0: actually it's quite handy
12:26.00Kirkburn|afksylvanaar, I love you.
12:26.00Stephmwaye, knowing you have additional aggro is very useful
12:26.22mitch0well, for the agro stuff it might work, as it's usually a short period. but I was of course joking about using it for elite display
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12:26.36Stephmwmitch0: I'm never sure with you :)
12:26.38mitch0but some nice visual effect would be welcom. that's one thing I miss in pitbull, too
12:26.42mitch0Stephmw: :)
12:26.51[Ammo]ckknight: it shows a classification near the level
12:26.56[Ammo]or something
12:26.57ckknightoh
12:26.58ckknightyea
12:27.03ckknightPitBull already does that
12:27.03[Ammo]can't remember if it's before or after
12:27.06[Ammo]k cool
12:27.10[Ammo]then it needs nothing more
12:27.11ckknightbut my brother still dies because of that.
12:27.14[Ammo]animation is just useless fluff
12:27.14ckknightso it needs more
12:27.26ckknightI don't care about animation
12:27.29mitch0ckknight: an option to decorate the portrait would be nice for me. won't solve the problem for those without portraits though
12:27.30ckknightjust another visual
12:27.40ckknightportraits are lame
12:28.03Stephmwckknight: http://media5.curse-gaming.com/images/previews/8637/groupcalendar-edit-event.jpg
12:28.04mitch0to each their own...
12:28.16mitch0I played for too long with portraits, and I sorta depend on them
12:28.19mitch0for sheep and stuff
12:28.19Stephmwckknight: Sunday 4th has the animated highlight I'm talking about
12:28.26ckknightI see
12:28.28sylvanaarKirkburn|afk thank kaiden, i just helped
12:28.34mitch0and thus a nice in-border with colorz would be nice
12:29.03mitch0actually, you could keep the current "silver" and "golden" stuff
12:29.15mitch0current as in default blizz UI
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12:29.25Kirkburn|afkkaiden, I love you in absentia.
12:29.55ckknightI fucking hate the pidgin the locals use here
12:30.08mitch0someone should draw a nics squere "inward border" that resembles the default elite unit frames
12:30.14mitch0s/nics/nice/
12:30.15ckknightwho wants to guess how they spell "another"
12:30.18ckknightanoddah
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12:30.22ckknightfucking a
12:30.26kenlyricthat's how they spell it?
12:30.29kenlyricor how they say it
12:30.36ckknightI mean, they even pronounce it like "anoddah"
12:31.34Ordogis there some known "do not update" flag for any addon atm?
12:32.04mitch0ckknight: btw, about the bar colors. is that intentional that the alpha values are not saved from the color select?
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12:32.19ckknightwhich colors?
12:32.32kenlyricOrdog: I believe that's called "do not trunk"
12:32.35kaidenSo, how much of a problem would it be to commit to the svn a small change to various addons do many authors get angry if you do? ie, i am a big fan of the font Calibri Bold and added a quick hack to the core.lua in ClearFont2 to make a font named Calibri v1 (BOLD ONLY) and it only uses the calibribold.ttf
12:32.37mitch0the bar colors. maybe just the custom colors
12:32.38kenlyricotherwise, no.
12:32.45mitch0health/power stuff
12:33.18Ordogi didnt mean in svn organisation terms, more like "that addon in its newest version is bugged, do not upgrade" :)
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12:33.23mitch0umma, seems I'm outta sync
12:33.44mitch0uh, no. sec
12:35.10mitch0so, in PitBull_Health:UpdateHealthbarColor(), the alpha value is not used, a constant 1 is used
12:35.26mitch0same for Mana/Rage/Energy
12:35.40mitch0I don't have a problem with it, just wondering if that's intentional or not
12:35.44[Ammo]intentional
12:36.18mitch0and what's the reason for it? is it faster this way?
12:37.28Kirkburn|afkkaiden, I don't mind it
12:37.48kaidenKirkburn|afk, okie dokie :)
12:38.56Stephmwmitch0: not looking at the code, lua or wow, but opaque will always be faster than composited ;)
12:39.08Kirkburn|afkkaiden, note I earlier said: "<Kirkburn|afk> kaiden, I love you in absentia."
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12:39.49mitch0Stephmw: but is it optimized out if the alpha value is 1? as the code calls setColor(r, g, b, 1) (or something to that effect
12:40.17kaidenah darn need an svn account :(
12:40.24Stephmwmitch0: this kind of thing usually is
12:40.48Stephmwmitch0: the code I work with here even has special cases for continuous same-colour regions :)
12:41.52kaidenKirkburn|afk, that could be taken as a good or bad comment :P
12:42.05Kirkburn|afklol, well you were absent at the time :)
12:42.14kaidenhehe
12:43.51kaidenAnyone here i can bug for an svn account so i dont have to wait on ick slow e-mail :P
12:43.51Kirkburn|afkBut sylvanaar told me to thank you for the chat frame fix
12:43.51Kirkburn|afkPoke one of the mods. Like ckknight. ckknight, I poke you.
12:43.51ckknightno
12:43.51Kirkburn|afkHe'll just eat it and run away.
12:43.51kaidenckknight, i'll give you candy
12:43.51Kirkburn|afkBLoody carrot eater.
12:43.51kaidenyummy yummy candy
12:43.51ckknightdude, I said no
12:44.07ckknightI don't handle that
12:44.09Loki|muhis it patchday today in US?
12:44.27Kirkburn|afkckknight, who does?
12:44.38Kirkburn|afk(that's here)
12:45.03Kirkburn|afkLoki|muh, nope
12:47.36kaidenwell i e-mailed the svn account request addy, hopefully it'll go through ok
12:47.42Kirkburn|afkSo what did the CF chat frame fix involve?
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12:47.47Kirkburn|afkkaiden, sensible :)
12:47.50chutwigLoki|muh: no, they just did rolling restarts here except for one bgroup
12:48.01kaidenjust a SetFont on each ChatFrame# 1-7
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12:49.05kaidenapparently according to Sylvanaar the way blizzard does it is they UPDATE_CHAT_FRAMES and pull the font directly from the chatframe so since their code gets called first it was just getting reverted
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12:51.17Kirkburn|afkSilly Blizzard :)
12:51.41Kirkburn|afkWhat addon is giving me the awesome dings to tell me I'm low on mana or health?
12:52.14Chompersmsbt
12:52.16Chompersor sct
12:52.20Kirkburn|afkFormer
12:52.42Kirkburn|afkProbably added ages ago, I just haven't played
12:52.44CIA-1103gagorian * r33647 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
12:52.44CIA-11DrDamage:
12:52.44CIA-11-More optimization.
12:52.44CIA-11-Now displays casts left gained through regen and reduced mana cost on crits effects as "base+extra" on tooltips
12:52.51StephmwVitalsWatch is also nice, does the same but for raid/party too
12:53.25JoshBorkei <3 vitalwatch cause it makes my screen glow and beeps at me
12:53.35Kirkburn|afkOoh, screen glow eh
12:55.11Kirkburn|afkEr, forums looking pretty weird for me
12:55.54Kirkburn|afkThat's odd. If you follow the link from the WoWAce wiki page for VitalWatch, the page comes up oddly
12:56.10CIA-1103fenlis * r33648 10VanasKoS/modules/WarnFrame.lua: VanasKoS: - Updated localization koKR
12:56.18Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,725.0.html
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13:01.39JoshBorkeoh wow, that is really weird
13:06.49*** join/#wowace Infineon (n=mc@p50915e78.dip.t-dialin.net)
13:06.55Infineonhi there
13:07.05Infineoni got a reproducable wow crash since last aceupdate
13:07.08Infineon:(
13:07.28JoshBorkeInfineon: update all ace2 addons
13:07.54Infineonlast update was 30mins ago
13:07.58Infineonnow i did again
13:08.14JoshBorkethe problem is with AceEvent
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13:09.15kenlyricstrange, that should be fixed.
13:09.41ElkanoInfineon, are you updating via WAU? Then try installing Ace2 standalone
13:09.49Infineonim back
13:09.50kenlyricElkano: it was fixed last night.
13:10.06Infineonso i think the problem could be with a different aceevent release?
13:10.14kenlyriclatest.txt now reportes the correct revsion.xx name
13:10.17Infineonan development addon from me is still in wowdir
13:10.25Infineonand uses the event from yesterday
13:11.05kenlyrichttp://files.wowace.com/ag_UnitFrames/latest.txt for example
13:11.47Elkanomaybe he has eg AtlasLootFu installed ;)
13:13.46InfineonJoshBorke do different Lib versionen in different addon folder can force such a huge wow crash?
13:14.03JoshBorkeInfineon: for AceEvent, yes
13:14.11Infineonk
13:14.31Infineonisnt this a bit risky from blizz that addons can cause this
13:14.45JoshBorkeeh, shit happens and then you die
13:14.58JoshBorkeit wouldn't happen if you only updated from release sites
13:15.02JoshBorkeinstead of using beta software
13:15.09ElkanoInfineon, it works with Windows so why shouldn't it work with WoW ;)
13:15.16Infineonhrhr
13:15.25Infineonna JoshBorke the problem wasnt the new addons
13:15.36Infineonthe problem was that my own addon used an old lib
13:15.47Infineonthat i downloaded yesterday
13:15.53JoshBorkeyes but if you updated only from release sites you wouldn't have the newest AceEvent
13:16.10kenlyricyou wouldn't have the horked one, either :)
13:16.19Infineonhehe okok i agree :D
13:16.26kenlyricthe chances are quite low, at least.
13:16.46Infineonbut wau is so n1 :D
13:17.21Infineonyeah i got since today few probs with a wau update. first was the 2.0 thing. i updated and all addons .... you know the prob :P
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13:19.34Fisker-Elkano
13:19.36Fisker-YOU!
13:20.01Amian/who nickserv
13:20.06Amianmt
13:21.12Kirkburn|afkLol, these are awesome: http://www.explosm.net/comics/816/ then http://www.explosm.net/comics/818/
13:22.39Infineonrofl
13:22.53kenlyricI approve
13:23.02kenlyricoh shit oh shit oh shit!
13:23.13Kirkburn|afkHaving just found out about that website, I am in love with it :)
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13:24.01Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.explosm.net/comics/824/
13:24.58kenlyriczomg 28 weeks later.
13:25.11kenlyricgoddamn, I'm going to spend so much on movies this summer.
13:29.15ElkanoKirkburn|afk, yesterday's was fun ^^
13:29.54Kirkburn|afkSo true
13:29.57Elkanoanyone spare some change?
13:30.53abyssichaterofl
13:31.32abyssichatehomeless!
13:37.04Tupsiinterface/addons/bigwigs/libs/acelibrary/acelibrary.lua:548: Tourist-2.0: Bad argument (hash) 2 to 'Ishostile' (String expected, got boolean)
13:37.10Tupsigives me lates bw
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13:37.20Tupsishould i manualy include tourist?
13:37.21[Ammo]update your touristlib
13:37.29[Ammo]or the addons using it
13:37.32[Ammo]this is not a bigwigs error
13:37.50[Ammo]it's a tourist bug showing in bigwigs due to the fact it's your first addon loading acelibrary
13:38.04Tupsithanks!
13:39.05Kirkburn|afkLol @ this - http://www.explosm.net/movies/135/
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13:46.08Kirkburn|afkHowz about this then? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bytheairport/469416423/
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13:50.39phantagomHi, can some one tell me how I can get the values of GetSpellBonusDamage?
13:50.50phantagomI treid this now /script SendChatMessage("Fire Spell DMG ".. GetSpellBonusDamage(2);
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13:51.11phantagomBut that doesnt work
13:51.15Roartindonhmm.. and it told you you were missing a ")" ?
13:51.47phantagomuh, ok, that is stupid
13:52.06phantagomi am already looking to long to my code for todo
13:52.10phantagomtoday
13:52.51Wobinomg
13:53.02Punkie`omgomg
13:53.02RoartindonWobin has internet access back?
13:53.07Punkie`MrPlow2 out?!
13:53.09Punkie`:D
13:53.10Kirkburn|afkAnyone from the UK, WorldofWar is hiring
13:53.11WobinAll this time I thought the lyrics were "Every morning there's a hello hanging from the corner of my four post bed"
13:53.18Wobin><
13:53.21Punkie`WorldofWar can kiss my ass
13:53.38ElkanoKirkburn, are you also from worldofwar?
13:53.38Punkie`and so can wowhead with it's retarded new logo
13:53.40WobinMy parents would so not take me seriously if I got a job with them =)
13:54.00WobinMy mother didn't even believe doing contracting constituted a 'real job'
13:54.57Kirkburn|afkElkano, um, no
13:55.03MikmaWobin: so, how much do you profit at the corner you go in every night? ;)
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13:55.32Kirkburn|afkTheir offices are in Bridgwater, Somerset apparently, don't think that's far from me
13:55.42Kirkburn|afk(yes, it's spelt right)
13:56.22Kirkburn|afk45 km away
13:56.23chutwigthat's funny
13:56.29chutwigthere's a bridgewater here in somerset county
13:56.33chutwigcoincidence?!?!?!
13:56.38Kirkburn|afkDoubt it :)
13:57.30Kirkburn|afkWait, now I'm confused - there's a Somerset County in the US?
13:57.54Punkie`what's the current CF2 font?
13:58.00Kirkburn|afkCalibri
13:58.16Punkie`is that the default MS office 2007 font?
13:58.21Kirkburn|afkYup
13:58.39chutwigthere are probably several somerset counties
13:58.40Punkie`yeah, i whacked that into a font folder as soon as i wrote a document
13:58.43Punkie`looks nice :)
13:58.47Roartindonoh question relating to CF2... does table.insert trigger any metamethods? I tried adding a __setindex and __newindex to the ClearFont2's font table and it didn't seem to fire
13:59.05Kirkburn|afkI really wouldn't know
13:59.12chutwig4 somerset counties, to be precise
13:59.20chutwigall of which are in states that were in the original colonies :o
13:59.27Punkie`Kirk, what was the font that had the problem with the '_' ?
13:59.36Punkie`that looked awesome, beside that
13:59.41Kirkburn|afkI mostly "designed" it Roartindon, other people helped me with the
13:59.42Kirkburn|afkAce code
13:59.53Kirkburn|afkBegan with F I think
14:00.11Punkie`yeah i think so too
14:00.12Kirkburn|afkFrancophil Sans
14:00.13RoartindonI wanted to intercept new insertions into the ClearFont2.fonts table to register them with SML automatically if they existed
14:00.20Punkie`that's the one :)
14:00.23Roartindonthe alternative I can do is add a little code to UpdateFontList
14:00.30Kirkburn|afkOh, for font packs?
14:00.31Punkie`I wonder why it did that :(
14:00.37Roartindonyeah
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14:01.02Kirkburn|afkWell, I can't really give you any advice, sawee :P
14:01.11chutwiggurgle
14:01.13Wobinsml?
14:01.18RoartindonSharedMediaLib
14:01.22KilrooDarn it, now I'm impatient for next Monday to get here
14:01.31Punkie`why?
14:01.33Kirkburn|afkchutwig, I bet there's places called Tauton, Yeovil and Sherborne too
14:01.36Wobinyay, tomorrow is a public holiday!
14:01.53chutwigKirkburn|afk: it's entirely possible
14:01.59Kilrooso I can do my Burning Crusade trial and try out these 60-some addons.
14:02.12chutwighowever i wouldn't necessarily assume there are places named bishop's stortford
14:02.19KilrooI don't want to start it now because I'll be out of town three days in the middle of it if I do.
14:02.22knarf-Can you get the mob health in numbers to display in Aloft?
14:02.36knarf-or the percent hp left?
14:02.59Roartindonknarf-: Health Bar -> Health Text options
14:03.01Kirkburn|afkchutwig, stalker!
14:03.08Kirkburn|afkheh
14:03.10chutwigKirkburn|afk: que?
14:03.13Roartindonyou need a recent MobHealth3 installed too
14:03.19chutwigyou actually live there?
14:03.22chutwigi just picked that out of the air
14:03.29Kirkburn|afkEr, about 3 km south of it, yes
14:03.31Roartindon(if you want actual health numbers for mobs)
14:03.35chutwigas a random example of a ludicrous british town name
14:03.37Kirkburn|afkI went to school there
14:03.48Kirkburn|afkThat's crazy
14:03.54knarf-Roartindon thanks :D
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14:03.59chutwigit does tend to stick in people's heads, though
14:04.04chutwigbishop's stortford
14:04.06chutwigstortford
14:04.06Kirkburn|afkI guess you may have come across it since it's right next to Stansted airport?
14:04.18chutwigjust happened across it randomly
14:04.23Kirkburn|afklol
14:04.28KilrooAloft sounds interesting.
14:04.29chutwigi lived in the UK many moons ago, but that was in buckinghamshire
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14:04.50chutwigi paid no heed to you stansted proles
14:05.07Kirkburn|afkchutwig, well, my home town, Sawbridgeworth, is just next to B/S and is home to Beckingham Palace :P
14:05.11RoartindonKirkburn|afk: Mind if I commit some code to ClearFont2's Core.lua that registers newly discovered fonts with SharedMediaLib?
14:05.17Roartindonie. if they have font packs?
14:05.18Kirkburn|afkGO ahead :)
14:05.21Kirkburn|afk*Go
14:05.22RoartindonI have it working and tested here :)
14:05.32chutwighooray i have an e-quote for an actual nice set of servers
14:05.40Kirkburn|afkNow, another cool town name is Ryme Intrinseca
14:05.41chutwigoh god please let me order them pleeeeeease
14:05.56chutwigi like penzance
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14:06.05CIA-1103roartindon * r33649 10ClearFont2/Core.lua: ClearFont2: UpdateFontList will register newly discovered fonts with SharedMediaLib if it exists
14:06.05chutwigit makes me think of gilbert and sullivan operettas
14:06.08Kirkburn|afkPirates thereof?
14:06.18Kirkburn|afk>_<
14:06.20chutwigi'm the finest captain of the queen's navyyyyyy
14:06.24chutwigand my record shall stand as proooooooof
14:06.43Kirkburn|afkI sang in it as a pirate at school :)
14:07.02kenlyricso many jokes, so little time
14:07.55KilrooLet's see here. Out of some 65 addons I have slated to try in my Burning Crusade trial...the ones that are not Ace (I don't think) are: MSBT, SW-Stats, TinyPad, Advanced Weapon Stats, and EasyUnlock.
14:08.15chutwigtinypad sounds like a feminine hygiene product
14:08.30hasteit works tho'
14:08.35KilrooIt's just about as good an idea, too.
14:08.57chutwigprevents untimely leaks and doesn't make your underwear puff out?
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14:09.59KilrooI think I recall that back in the day something called LuaPad was the only similar addon nearly as recommended to me...and someone suggested one alternative to it this time around but reports seemed to indicate this other alternative was possibly better for note-taking but not as good for my purposes
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14:10.07Kilroowhich are mostly configuring Visor.
14:10.17KilrooAlthough I may not need to do that anymore
14:10.26KilrooHard to tell.
14:13.24KilrooI suppose it depends partly on whether I was using it for anything for which I didn't save the Tinypad pages, partly on how much I like Infinibars, and partly on whether I can get my minimap icons positioned to my liking without it.
14:13.58GagorianJJSheets
14:14.13Wobinchutwig: With wings and a sphagnum core
14:14.18JJSheetsyes?
14:14.27chutwigtunggggggggggggggsten
14:14.31chutwigi need tungggggggsten to live
14:14.44GagorianHave you done anything with the textsubs?
14:14.51GagorianCan't get them working with drd atm
14:14.58Saroz12:47:41 | <sbu> Saroz: wtb "Show 5-man raid as party" for sRaidFrames :o
14:14.59Sarozwtf
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14:15.15JJSheetsnot since I worked on em... matter of fact I'm seeing them on my bars right now.
14:15.24Phatrikwhoa whats this, I just got home and almost every addon is being updated by WAU :O
14:16.28GagorianJJSheets: Weird.. I did a few big updates on my drd, but I don't think I broke it
14:16.43GagorianIt doesn't somehow catch the update event for me
14:17.03JJSheetsI haven't updated my DrDamage yet... :p
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14:19.48kenlyricPhatrik: the website was fixed, your addons are actually getting updated. Don't Panic
14:19.51sbuSaroz: hum? :)
14:20.01CIA-1103gagorian * r33650 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
14:20.01CIA-11DrDamage:
14:20.01CIA-11-Option to enable Blizzard default actionbar support while using another AB addon. More optimization
14:20.16Phatrikheh
14:20.56Phatrikwent ":O ?" when my 30+ addons updated
14:21.08CIA-1103gagorian * r33651 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
14:21.08CIA-11DrDamage:
14:21.08CIA-11-Ok, no debug stuff now.
14:21.28GagorianTry with that one JJSheets
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14:23.57JJSheetsGagorian, that version works for me.  Note I don't have any of the blizzard defaults showing.
14:24.21Gagorianabuh
14:24.59Gagorianok. I'm ashamed now!
14:25.17GagorianApparently.. having the use text sub thing ticked... actually disables it
14:25.33JJSheetslol
14:25.58Sarozargg my prat is fucked up
14:26.00Saroz:|
14:26.22GagorianThe thing is.. I didn't change anything and I had textsubs before.
14:26.46GagorianAnd on the other hand the configuration menu is slightly fucked up.. the empty boxes for filling in the textsub codes are on the text
14:29.33JJSheetswell... I gotta get to work.  see ya'll later.  :)
14:29.51Fincopy the Prat_* and PratPlugin-1.0 directories into the main addons folder
14:29.58Fin(from the Prat folder)
14:30.04Finactually, move them
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14:33.56PneuAMAGAD wowwiki iz dead? :<
14:33.58WobinI'm glad uprate isn't charged =P
14:34.07sbuSaroz: its a pitbull setting for e.g. arena
14:34.09sbuvery nice :o
14:34.35Sarozbut.. this is raid frames
14:34.38Saroznot party frames
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14:34.59sbuyep
14:35.23renchapdisable sraidframes when in a 5man raid
14:35.24sbubut you still see sRaidFrames in 5-man raid
14:35.27sbumeh :)
14:35.28Kirkburn|afkYes, the wowwiki is having problems. The server admins are away atm, so nothing can be done.
14:35.35Wobin=(
14:36.40Pneuah, google cache might hold the answer i need
14:38.05Sarozwtf is this eval tracker in expo
14:38.14Sarozcan't you make it search all events for a string?
14:38.55CIA-1103gagorian * r33652 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
14:38.55CIA-11DrDamage:
14:38.55CIA-11-Turning actionbar text off from DrDamage also clears out InfiniBar textsubs
14:40.56CIA-1103zalkalin * r33653 10devnull/devnull.toc: devnull: Shut the hell up.
14:43.54Kirkburn|afkIrfanview just hit v4.00
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14:45.31kenlyricjust in time for me to not need it anymore.
14:45.45Wobinhttp://wdstw.ytmnd.com/
14:45.48Wobinquite impressive =P
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14:50.39Kinkxhttp://belairianhummingbird.ytmnd.com/
14:50.46Kinkxquite impressive
14:51.43Wobinyeah, it's almost as if he's not moving his arms!
14:51.58Kinkxlol, I love that one
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15:06.52Wobinoh god
15:07.06WobinKirkburn|afk: This is for you: http://community.livejournal.com/stupid_free/299997.html
15:07.10Wobin50 pages of cat macros =P
15:08.12Stephmwwtf?
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15:15.32nevcairielmeh wowwiki down again
15:15.35nevcairielKirkburn|afk: fix it!
15:15.48Kirkburn|afkWish I could
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15:16.34Gagorian~seen cncfanatics
15:17.20purlcncfanatics <n=cvcncfan@41.87-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17d 22h 45m 45s ago, saying: 'it sucks though :;('.
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15:20.28Wobinrofl
15:20.43Wobinlotr animated macros on page 14
15:21.01kenlyricI like this cat picture because it's neither sappy nor 4chanspeak http://pics.livejournal.com/glossolalia/pic/000akyks.jpg
15:21.06Wobinhttp://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b239/orangewhore/macros/UZAXDFK3V4KK2QZXXRWDHFGEL4IUFKA2.gif
15:21.18Wobinkenlyric: Truth =)
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15:27.38Wobinthis one is both clever, and not a macro: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/dysturbation/Animals/morethanonewaywl5.jpg
15:27.42kenlyricow. my sides hurt. This qualifies as the funniest thing I've seen on the internet. For right now.  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/starrah/Macros/radkid.jpg
15:28.04WobinI remember that ad!
15:28.52Kirkburn|afkOOh, so RDX guy is saying ClearFont is causing him error 132 problems.
15:29.00Wobin><
15:29.12kenlyricWobin: I remember being that kid... ;)
15:29.20Kirkburn|afkFun thing is, it might be ... but it ain't ClearFonts fault
15:29.45kenlyricI even owned duck tales.
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15:29.45Kirkburn|afkCould be the font he's using, could be the OS, or the WoW client could be having an off day
15:29.52kenlyric(for a licensed platformer, it was a hell of a lot of fun)
15:30.43abyssichateIs there something wrong in the Absolute Short format for the Health Text in Pitbull ? It looks like the "Absolute" text
15:32.35Kirkburn|afkI feel like updating the UI sites to ClearFont2
15:32.53Kirkburn|afkCan I ask something - can people check the latest version to see if it's working perfectly? :P
15:33.16nevcairielIf by the latest you mean SVN
15:33.19nevcairielthen its working
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15:38.01Kirkburn|afkCool, unless I hear anything else tonight, I'll put it up later
15:38.22abyssichateIt is working fine for me as well
15:39.23lovemansejust updated all my ace addons and now none of em work, both old and new ones, anyone got similar probs?
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15:41.20Kirkburn|afkNone whatsoever?
15:41.26Kirkburn|afkIn what way "none"?
15:41.45Kirkburn|afkDoes this mean they don't load? Error? Don't appear in the list?
15:41.47Matrix110you are afk how can you type Oo?
15:41.58Kirkburn|afkCause I'm aaaaallllwaaaayyyyysssss afk :P
15:42.03lovemansewell, i can see them all on the addons list and i can see they are enabled but when i go ingame they dont work
15:42.05Matrix110ic:P
15:42.16lovemanseno errors or nothing :/
15:42.17Matrix110lovemanse get WAU 1.7 and reinstall all addons
15:42.35Kirkburn|afkWhen I remove |afk it likely means I'm actually asleep ;)
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15:43.08lovemanseill try that but doesnt make much sense :)
15:44.04Matrix110well it removes old garbage libs that doesnt work atleast:P
15:45.11Kirkburn|afkWAU is awesome and really not hard to use
15:45.48lovemansejust did like i always do, download the newest version, remove the old folders and install
15:45.56lovemansehavent had any probs with it before until now
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15:47.46Kirkburn|afkStill ... use WAU :)
15:48.20Kirkburn|afkYou're less likely to be affected by a faulty package run on /files then (which maybe this is?)
15:48.32Matrix110especially if you use Standalone Libs
15:48.46Kirkburn|afk^ what Matrix110 said
15:48.57Kirkburn|afkStephmw, all part of the excitement and fun :P
15:49.03StephmwKirkburn|afk: absolutely
15:49.57Matrix110Kirkburn|afk CF1 vs CF1 @PTR CPU/Mem usage whats better?^^
15:50.01Matrix110*CF2
15:50.40Kirkburn|afkNo idea :)
15:50.48Kirkburn|afkNeither should use much /at all/
15:51.07Kirkburn|afkIt rarely runs anything during play
15:51.27Matrix110ah well ill use CF1 then aslong as it runs
15:52.11lovemansethanks that helped out a bit atleast, only cooldowncount and ag unitframes that doesnt work now :)
15:52.13Kirkburn|afkWhy oh why you crazy fule!?
15:52.20Kirkburn|afklovemanse, great to hear
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15:52.26Kirkburn|afk(almost =)
15:55.13CIA-1103nevcairiel * r33654 10Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: why did i ever remove PushedTexture? Well its back now.
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15:56.35CIA-1103fleetfoot 07PTR2.1 * r33655 10DarkCandy/DarkCandy/DarkCandy.lua:
15:56.35CIA-11DarkCandy:
15:56.35CIA-11- Fixes for 0 duration debuffs
15:57.07Kirkburn|afk... it's been a while
15:57.18nevcairielheh
15:57.32MorghusI never bothered to :p
15:58.02Kirkburn|afk1.4.3 is latest, right?
15:58.10nevcairielyea
15:58.14Kirkburn|afkI sure hope it works on Vista :)
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16:06.13shieldbhmmm.. anyone know how can I get notepad++ to show koKR locale files properly? atm everything is ["Foo"] = "      "
16:06.17pastamancertry a different font?
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16:06.20Hemansehm ag unitframes just didnt work with the current layout package, guess that was the prob :)
16:06.21shieldbpastamancer, everything I've been cycling through just displays everything as boxes instead of correct characters
16:06.21shieldbI need to add a block of stuff to the end of the localization file but I don't want to save it and screw it up ;)
16:06.46shieldbahh here we go, arial unicode ms does display stuff correctly
16:07.42pastamanceryay, I was fiarly certain notepad++ supported UTF8.  Not so many fonts support the asian glyphs though
16:07.43Kirkburn|afkSo, should I use Notepad++ rather than notepad for coding? I didn't bother before...
16:07.43nevcairielnotepad++ supports it just fine, it display everything as little squares for me tho
16:08.45CIA-1103shieldb * r33656 10Incubator/ (6 files): Incubator: Added Tempest Keep: The Eye trash
16:09.01TecnoBratIncubator = FTW
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16:10.06shieldbanyone cleared through most of SSC that I can harass a bit?
16:10.43kirika_does the index value for DoTradeSkill wary for all characters? no specific number for each skill?
16:11.56FISKER_Qbtw shieldb
16:12.05FISKER_Qi think your timer was a few seconds off in magtheridon's lai
16:12.06FISKER_Qlair
16:12.08FISKER_Qi'm apalled
16:12.10pastamancerilifin: I believe it's an index into the list of recipes the player knows
16:12.20pastamancerilifin: so character-dependant
16:12.21shieldb:(
16:12.50Stephmwhow's LittleWigs progressing?
16:15.36CIA-1103roartindon * r33657 10Aloft/Aloft.lua:
16:15.36CIA-11Aloft
16:15.37CIA-11- Script hook methods properly pass on their parameters
16:15.53Kirkburn|afkIt's basic questions day from me :) What should I encode files as UTF-8?
16:16.11Kirkburn|afkEr, you know what I meant
16:16.23nevcairielyou only need UTF-8 if you plan to keep asian chars in it
16:16.36Kirkburn|afkCan't say I know many :)
16:18.10pastamancerUTF-8 is a good habit to get into, it's equivalent to latin-1 unless you start using strange characters
16:20.00RoartindonI like using UTF-8 even for european character sets
16:20.18RoartindonAs the different code pages have different representations for >ASCII128 otherwise
16:21.26Kirkburn|afkkk
16:23.21Fin./who jerry
16:23.24Finoops
16:23.25Fin-.
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16:28.46AmadeoHas anyone been having trouble with Gmail lately? Not the addon..
16:29.33AmadeoSuddenly one day for me it became extremely slow, lots of unable to load and such
16:33.22ilifinpastamancer, dang, gotta index it for any char then, meh
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16:34.26abyssichateIs Incubator the only addon that times SSC/TK trash at the moment?
16:35.10pastamancerilifin: even better, I think it can change when new recipes are learned
16:35.40ilifinfun
16:35.47ilifinwhats the name of the tradeskill window in the ui
16:36.04ilifinor well, is it possible to print the selected skill's index number in the default frames?
16:36.05Matrix110Amadeo nope everything fine here
16:37.24vhaarrabyssichate: yes
16:37.42abyssichatethanks
16:40.18CIA-1103ammo * r33658 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Incubator: fix some horrible obvious drycoding
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16:40.19shieldbany chance on getting the magtheridon debris warning message set to urgent instead of positive so it comes up in the same color as all the other "XXX Soon" notifications?
16:40.19[Ammo]shieldb: I fixed your drycoding :p
16:40.19pastamancerilifin: TRADE_SKILL_SHOW is the event you want, althoug you may want to see how manufac does things
16:40.28shieldb<3
16:40.44knarf-does bigwigs fire an event when you engage a boss?
16:41.04vhaarrknarf-: Some bosses, yes, all bosses, no.
16:41.11knarf-darn it
16:41.36knarf-because of the boss modules not doing it?
16:42.48vhaarrYes.
16:43.05vhaarrIf they use the CheckForEngage method, you'll get an event
16:44.13CIA-1103fin * r33659 10Talented/chat.lua: Talented: chat.lua: Added a check for Prat_UrlCopy before defining Prat_UrlCopy:GetModuleOptions()
16:44.26knarf-well if it is not consistent, it can't really be used :)
16:45.19vhaarrIt's not meant to be used either, but yeah.
16:45.58vhaarrknarf-: Why don't you tell me what you want to do?
16:46.44knarf-Just wanted to write something that set my dnd message :P
16:46.45vhaarrYou can do that easily, don't really need BigWigs.
16:47.16vhaarrYou just register for PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED, scan all raid targets for something that's in Babble-Boss-2.2 and if there's a match and the target is UnitAffectingCombat, you set DND.
16:47.29vhaarrIt's like 10 lines of code, max.
16:47.34knarf-cute
16:47.51knarf-I could also just do it manually, but meh :P
16:49.26HjalteWith Spamsentry, if your reportlist is longer than 5-6 names, then there is no way to report them all?
16:49.33CIA-1103fin * r33660 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua:
16:49.33CIA-11Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: finally enabled parsing of substitutions (if the
16:49.33CIA-11Substitutions module is active) for the command part of aliases (so it's now
16:49.33CIA-11possible to do "/alias /tthi /whisper %tn hi" to make typing "/tthi" whisper
16:49.33CIA-11"hi" to the current target) - cheers to sylvanaar for his assistance!
16:50.10TecnoBratWhats the best anti-spam mod out there? These gold messages are really pissing me off.
16:50.21knarf-I like SpamSentry
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16:50.28HjalteTecnoBrat, SpamSentry seems really nice
16:50.36Finit's nift on a stick
16:50.42kenlyricSpamSentry is the devil.
16:50.49Stephmwlately it's showing that I need to update it, the 1st line of the spam is making it through
16:50.58kenlyricnot really, but I can't stand to see that much agreement on irc.
16:51.08FinStephmw: are you Mr. SpamSentry?
16:51.14StephmwFin: naaaah
16:51.20Finbah
16:51.27StephmwFin: I just need to get it updated I should've said ;)
16:51.35FinStephmw: ahh, right
16:51.49TecnoBratokay, so I think the best one sounds "SpamSentry" or something . I'm not sure tho
16:52.07Stephmwgive it a try
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16:52.15TecnoBrathehe I will do, that was sarcasm :P
16:52.24Stephmwsorry :)
16:52.43Stephmwafter 8 hrs in the nut-house... I need to stop staring at my screens
16:52.45TecnoBrat"Anea" is "Mr. SpamSentry"
16:54.08FinI should post something to the thread
16:55.45CIA-1103kaelten * r33661 10cgProfiler/ (5 files in 4 dirs): cgProfiler: Intermediate Update
17:00.35FISKER_Qhttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1177433648895.jpg
17:00.35FISKER_Qlolwut
17:01.01vhaarrhaha
17:01.11nevcairiellol
17:01.25Finthat's mean
17:01.31nevcairielit is
17:01.42Fin:)
17:04.06Gagorianhttp://ace.pastey.net/16616 anyone object for adding that to DogTag?
17:05.38FISKER_Qaww man
17:05.41FISKER_QQQ day
17:06.05FISKER_QOne of our guildies died a couple of days ago :(
17:06.17shieldbdid he drop any good loot?
17:06.23sedatedChipmunkdid he drop epix?
17:06.28shieldbsorry, couldn't resist
17:06.32TecnoBratwow
17:06.42FISKER_QIn b4 drama
17:06.42sedatedChipmunkbah
17:06.42TecnoBratyou guys are JERKS! JERKS I say!
17:06.46FISKER_Qin during drama
17:06.46FISKER_Q^^
17:07.02sedatedChipmunkhope he wasn't the guild bank
17:07.03FISKER_QCan't say i get offended by it
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17:07.40FISKER_QMood dampener though
17:08.05kenlyricif you can't be a jerk online, you can't be a jerk anywhere...
17:08.18TecnoBrat~kenlyric
17:08.55TecnoBrat~vhaarr
17:08.57purlsilly rabbit, closetgnome is for kids.
17:09.00FISKER_Q~fisker
17:09.03purlrumour has it, fisker is hardware, software, all the same, I have no idea
17:09.04CIA-1103ulic * r33662 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/Ikiss.lua: LittleWigs: Warns earlier
17:09.14TecnoBratawww .. who has the one that calls himself a jackass?
17:09.17FISKER_Q~emulate fisker
17:09.19purlless talking and more fisting please
17:09.19TecnoBrat~kergoth
17:09.21purlkergoth is, like, Chris Larson, an open source developer working for CSC in Phoenix, AZ.  Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH and SCM(svn) nazi, and often an ass.  Newbies and the clueless beware.  Email at clarson@kergoth.com.
17:09.26sedatedChipmunk~emulate industrial
17:09.28purlIt doesnt matter if you win or lose, until you lose.
17:09.32TecnoBratThere we go .. its kergoth :P
17:09.37FISKER_Qthat wasn't a jackass
17:09.42TecnoBratwell "ass"
17:09.51FISKER_Qwhat is goin on in here?
17:09.51TecnoBratclose enough :P
17:09.55FISKER_QMy font is hueg liek xbox
17:10.17Tornhoofget new glasses
17:10.47FISKER_QAHA!
17:10.49FISKER_QPrat broke it
17:10.58Finlies!
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17:12.07kergothhmm :P
17:12.10kergoth~emulate kergoth
17:12.12purlWhy don't you go away, and come back when you've got some clue?
17:12.18kergoth~botsnack
17:12.18purlkergoth: :)
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17:13.22Tornhoofhehe
17:13.45kergothpurl, entertain me!
17:13.47purlACTION grabs 5 random objects and begins to weave them through the air in a display of superior juggling skill for me!'s entertainment whilst whistling Einzug der Gladiatoren by Julius Fu?ík
17:14.52RedgarAnyone here that works on SpamSentry?
17:16.10chutwig|workthat is definitely a superlative display of entertainment
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17:16.45TecnoBratRedgar, I dont think so
17:16.48VordaWhere can I find the Pitbull health text syntaxis? (if that is the correct term)
17:16.49TecnoBratBut whats your prob?
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17:17.08Gagorianhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0
17:17.18Vordathanks, just noticed it was in the tooltip
17:18.04Redgarlatest version, put up today, is broken.  FuBar doesn't display, and I get something about AceLibrary's in the error (would have to log back in real quick to get the full error)
17:18.27GagorianIt's not imo
17:18.34GagorianYou've got some library mess-up
17:18.55TecnoBratRedgar, I was just looking at SVN, it hasnt been updated today.
17:19.06RedgarHad the same problem (I believe) with MobHealth too
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17:20.03HjalteCan anyone help me with Raidagent?
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17:24.52VordaHmm, I'd want to create a health text in pitbull that has: 'status' (blank if not dead/offline/ghost) 'currhp/maxhp' (percentage if unknown) and 'missinghp' (negative and with % if unknown). Can I just use all those tags after each other, like: [statusgone][smarthp][missinghp:hidezero:negate]
17:25.39GagorianWhy don't you just try it? Not like it breaks everything :P
17:25.57VordaI did, it kinda doesnt work :P
17:26.11VordaSo I was hoping someone here knows where I messed up.
17:26.37vodrin[statusgone:smarthp]
17:26.40vodrintry that
17:27.33VordaThanks, looks better. Any way to make 'missinghp' display a precentage when it doenst know the absolute value?
17:27.34Silviu-vhaarr any ideeas why when i do /radisband after it i get a crit error ? ;)
17:27.36Silviu-From wow
17:27.37Silviu-:)
17:27.52Silviu-3`rd time now :)
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17:28.06FISKER_Qsame shit here actually
17:28.23vhaarryikes
17:28.28vhaarrSilviu-: no, sorry, no ideas :<
17:28.52vhaarrSilviu-: Are you sure all your addons are up to date?
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17:29.21FISKER_QI don't know if it happens to me anymore
17:29.24*** join/#wowace Cryect (n=fefsd@pool-68-162-149-236.pitt.east.verizon.net)
17:29.25FISKER_QBut it did yesterday atleast
17:29.30snirks(else)frame.debuffhighlight:Hide() <-- bugs
17:29.36snirks@ckknight
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17:29.54snirks\aura\aura.lua line 502
17:30.28Silviu-vhaarr yup
17:30.30vhaarrSilviu-: then I have no idea.
17:30.59Silviu-Oky, just wanted let u know ;)
17:31.11Silviu-Next time i won`t do i`ll just leave the raid ^^
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17:33.56ckknighthey all
17:34.15Silviu-hey
17:34.16MorghusIs wowwiki down? Oo
17:34.37kenlyricall day.
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17:36.41HjalteRaidagent doesnt seem to work for a lot of people in my raid. "Not synced" at a lot of them.
17:36.48HjalteAnd they do have the addon.
17:38.58FISKER_Qwowwiki sucks
17:39.08FISKER_QI wanted to vandalize some pages for lulz
17:39.13FISKER_Qbut i had to make an account
17:42.49KinkxWhats wrong with WAU? It keeps downloading stuff I've already downloaded, 2 sec ago
17:43.24FISKER_Qignoring version check? :P
17:43.30KinkxNope
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17:43.44KinkxIt downloads a couple of addons over and over, just a couple
17:44.01Funkeh`hi all
17:44.09sedatedChipmunksup nub
17:44.14ckknighthey Funkeh`
17:44.29KinkxEavesDrop, Fubar_NameToggleFu, GratuityLib, NRT and XRS
17:44.35Chompersfunkmaster
17:44.48KinkxThose keep getting redownloaded when I update, strange
17:45.23Gagorianckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/16616 this ok for DogTag?
17:45.30UE|DaemonaKinkx f5 f4 -> try again
17:46.21ckknightsure, Gagorian
17:46.27Kinkxdidn't work, still redownloading
17:47.25GagorianWill add it later then.. also percenthp:percent is broken somehow cause type( percenthp ) ~= "number"
17:47.49GagorianIt worked yesterday as I recall, but not at the moment.
17:48.06UE|DaemonaKinkx manually delete those addons and redownload them, might be something is wrong while extracting. do you have checked [x] delete before extracting ?
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17:48.22ckknightGagorian: oh, I know the issue, I think
17:48.36Kinkxit's set to false
17:49.48KinkxTry downloading XRS and see if i'm crazy or not ;P
17:50.01KinkxKeeps getting redownloaded, deleted it just now as well
17:50.48FISKER_QLets discuss the implications of using B( as the unhappy icon
17:50.54FISKER_QI am very pissed!
17:50.56KinkxAh, if I pick Update with Externals it downloads it, without and it gets skipped like it's suppose to
17:51.14CIA-1103ckknight * r33663 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - changed a few ("%.0f"):format(num) dealies into math.floor(num+0.5) dealies.
17:51.16ckknightFISKER_Q: oh?
17:51.21FISKER_QShould be >:(
17:51.26FISKER_Q:D
17:51.38ckknightI'd prefer 2 chars
17:51.53ckknightsomeone bump http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=97772966&sid=1
17:53.57FISKER_QReported for trolling!
17:54.07FISKER_QI thought your main was on the US
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17:56.02ckknightit is
17:56.06ckknightthat's that US forum
17:56.15evl\blendckknight: was there an options table reset at some point? I lost all my settings except position when i updated
17:56.19FISKER_Qi take it your main isn't level 4? :P
17:56.39ckknightno.
17:56.39ckknightevl\blend: *shrug*
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17:58.33UE|Daemonayes evl\blend it was, about 2 weeks ago ;)
17:58.42evl\blendi'm oldschool
17:58.44evl\blend:/
17:59.12_art3mishrm
17:59.25_art3misdid nev mess with bt3 so that it doesnt autoupgrade spells?
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18:01.03art3missorry he was confused nm
18:02.00CIA-1103ckknight * r33664 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added modifiers contains and hidecontains
18:02.07ckknightGagorian: ^--
18:02.19ckknightslightly different, it does a string.find(value, arg, 1, true)
18:02.22jaeteanybody tried mac ace updater?
18:02.31jaetejust tried it and it seems to totally screw everything up :]
18:03.28Matrix110its the mac:P
18:04.12phyberyou have to right click to make it not screw up.
18:04.15phyber:(
18:04.46CIA-1103ckknight * r33665 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix the trunc modifier
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18:06.31hyperChipmunkhaha
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18:07.49stavmarso the consul of our guild is demoting a raid leader tonight, no doubt there will be drama. Lol
18:07.55jaetegetting these for some reason: [2007/04/24 21:06:51-3-x1]: Dewdrop-2.0-33471 (FuBar):2090: Usage: <unnamed>:SetText("text")
18:08.21jaeteis it currently safe to just download newest everything from wowace.com/files? or are some libraries funnily broken or something? :p
18:08.23Herio?
18:08.40phyberjaete: it's a development repository, it's never safe.
18:08.51kenlyricwhat's a consul?
18:08.57hyperChipmunk~dict consul
18:09.00jaetehmm ok. what's safe then? :)
18:09.05kenlyricok, what'sa  consul in your guild.
18:09.11kenlyricjackass
18:09.17kenlyric;)
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18:09.26stavmara group of leaders that maake decision, sort of a senate for the president again
18:09.28hyperChipmunkactually
18:09.31hyperChipmunk~dict 2 consul
18:09.51stavmaragain/i guess
18:09.53vhaarr~dict council
18:10.01vhaarr:o
18:10.03hyperChipmunkvhaar you suck
18:10.07Herio~dict 2 council
18:10.14Heriothere we go
18:10.20hyperChipmunkthe first one is always suck
18:10.29Cheadsuhm what's up with the wau? getting like: "ArenaMaster - Updating to rev 32279.25" ?
18:10.35kenlyriccouncil idaho?
18:10.36vhaarrhyperChipmunk: maybe I just don't have to use the dictionary as often as you, nub :(
18:10.51hyperChipmunkor maybe you suck
18:10.56jaetebah, i have to download everything from wowinterface.com to be safe from evil development versions?
18:11.05kenlyricjaete: yes.
18:11.10jaeteor is there a safe version of wowace.com/files somewhere?
18:11.11kenlyricthat's pretty much understood.
18:11.18jaeteso i could use mac ace updater with it
18:11.21kenlyricjaete: it's called "wowinterface"
18:11.26jaetekk
18:11.40hyperChipmunkour dev versions are mostly stable, for the most part
18:12.09Cheadstoo many addons are almost never put on wowinterface even though they are in a perfectly useable state(imho) =)
18:12.09hyperChipmunki'd use them, and use wowi stuff if something messes up
18:12.15hyperChipmunkexactly
18:12.36pastamancerCheads: 32279.25 looks fine to me
18:12.46Saroztable.remove isnt a working function?
18:13.03Cheadspastamancer just wau has never downloaded those .xx versions for me before?
18:13.31Saroznm, me nub
18:13.37pastamancerCheads: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5791.0
18:13.55|Kev|jaete: screw everything up?
18:14.00Cheadsok haven't gotten so far, thought there might have been some message here =)
18:14.09|Kev|oh, right
18:14.16sbuyay
18:14.16|Kev|you can't download dev code and expect it to always work :)
18:14.22sbuemphasize bars in bigwigs rocks :o
18:14.29sbuthanks vhaarr, [Ammo], whoever ;p
18:14.35Cheadsbut thanks for the info
18:14.37vhaarr^^
18:14.41CIA-1103saroz * r33666 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix not being able to toggle groups in filters.
18:14.56knarf-sbu I have to agree on that :>
18:15.11vhaarrSaroz: zomg
18:15.15vhaarrSaroz: 33666
18:15.18SarozI WIN
18:15.21vhaarryou get ALL the cool ones man
18:15.23vhaarr:<
18:15.24Saroz\o/
18:15.51SarozI want credit for emphasize bars!
18:16.00jaetekev, it didn't seem to update fubar + its plugins for me from my 2-month-old versions. with only fubar + its plugins enabled, nothing worked. then i deleted all the fubar* dirs, ran mac ace updater again and told it to install them back, then it worked
18:16.12vhaarrSaroz: You know there's a 'native' explode now?
18:16.19Sarozno, was gonna ask you
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18:16.27jaetealso it reports like 1 or 2 of the fubar plugins as installed for me, even tho i have around 15 installed, it misses most of them
18:16.28phybervhaarr: all 66666 GET^Wcommit is the only one that matters.
18:16.28Sarozcause I seem to remember you talking about it
18:16.41phyber;)
18:16.54vhaarrSaroz: strsplit
18:16.59Sarozoh, same syntax?
18:17.13vhaarrI don't know your syntax, but it's strsplit(delimiter, string)
18:17.22Sarozsweet, thx
18:17.34vhaarrphyber: ^^
18:18.33Sarozwho screwed up google groups
18:18.44DynomSaroz: ./shy
18:19.51Saroz/dump type(strsplit(",", ""))
18:19.54Sarozwtf string?
18:20.09art3misanyone know of an addon that will automagically add newly learned spells to the hotbar?
18:20.11jaete...ok, now my fubar exploded into bits again :(
18:20.17art3misnot just rank upgrades
18:20.29Dynomart3mis: are yuou sure you want that.. ?
18:20.41art3misyeah, curious more than anything
18:21.35DynomI don't think so tbh, and tbh I don't think many would want that
18:21.39art3misi know that stuff like blessingbar and stance bars do it
18:21.39jaeteok i'll go back to the 2-month-old versions then, and never update. meh :p
18:21.54Dynom< Saroz> wtf string? <-- Scalar?
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18:21.59hyperChipmunkjaete: i think your problem might be in your settings; are you downloading externals?
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18:23.16jaetei dunno. where do i see that? i'm using mac ace updater
18:23.25Dynomare you pressing F10 ?
18:23.33Sarozwhy would strsplit not return an empty table
18:23.38Sarozthats so not logical
18:23.59|Kev|hyperChipmunk / dynom: this is mau, not wau
18:24.04vhaarrSaroz: It returns varargs, not a table.
18:24.15Dynom|Kev|: are the keybindings different ?
18:24.21|Kev|it's a different application
18:24.39Dynomhmm
18:24.40Dynomk
18:24.44vhaarrSaroz: So make some function that accepts it, like local function fake_ipairs(...) end, and then fake_ipairs(strsplit(delim, str))
18:24.52vhaarrfor example
18:26.05CIA-1103shieldb * r33667 10Incubator/ (5 files): Incubator: Removed Solarium Agents / Priests as they're part of the high astromancer solarian encounter
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18:28.23Sarozffs, hacks all over the place
18:29.39CIA-1103saroz * r33668 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: Hax with explode and implode
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18:30.37nevcairielemphasize bars is great
18:30.40vhaarrSaroz: err :P
18:30.42nevcairielfirst fight with them today
18:30.52vhaarrSaroz: You can just do local t = { strsplit(delim, str) }
18:30.58vhaarrnevcairiel: cool
18:31.00TheKarnnevcairiel, explain?
18:31.04SarozMY IDEA PEOPLE
18:31.06Saroz!!!
18:31.11vhaarrlol
18:31.16Sarozehm
18:31.16Sarozwell
18:31.19SarozRDX's idea
18:31.22Sarozbut anyway
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18:31.34vhaarrit was your idea to whine about it
18:31.39Sarozthank you
18:32.00Megalonyea, those focusing the bars
18:32.03Megalonwhich will end soon
18:32.06Megalonis quite nice :x
18:32.14Saroztold ya vhaarr
18:32.16Saroztold ya!
18:32.28vhaarr:o
18:32.37Megalonyou should have them shaking an bleeping
18:32.44Sarozor dancing?
18:33.09chutwig|workbeep boop
18:33.10pastamancersinging and dancing would be great
18:33.19chutwig|workdancing the laser dance
18:33.23Sarozperhaps a small cocktail before the show
18:33.40jaeteok, i think i've established the newest version of fubar just plain doesn't work. it doesn't recognize half of its plugins and doesn't allow to add any of those it recognizes to the bar
18:33.44vhaarrit wouldn't be too hard to add singing, actually :P
18:33.45Sarozworks fine
18:35.29SarozWTB wow addons coded in PHP
18:35.38TheKarnEWWW
18:35.39TheKarnnah
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18:35.42Sarozwould be so nice
18:35.45TheKarnwow addons coded in python
18:35.50phyberRemote LUA injection exploits ahoy!
18:35.54Sarozhahaha
18:35.56phybers/LUA/Lua/
18:35.56syerenWhy is ths server so laggy :/
18:35.57Sarozlol
18:36.17TheKarnif wow addons were coded in PHP every nub and his dog would be writting badly formatted code
18:36.43Sarozgive "real" OO
18:36.49TheKarnPython.
18:36.50sbuim not sure about the dog....
18:36.54TheKarnPHP is far from real OO
18:36.54|Kev|could be worse
18:36.55ulicI resemble that remark :)
18:36.57|Kev|could be Ruby
18:37.03Saroznotice the "real"
18:37.05TheKarni've not looked at ruby so i cant comment
18:37.10sbujava!
18:37.11|Kev|it's like perl
18:37.12vhaarrruby is nice
18:37.15sbu*hides*
18:37.18Sarozwhoever said Java can go die
18:37.22kenlyricplus, I hear it has rails.
18:37.23vhaarrjava ftw!
18:37.28SarozWoW addons on Java = 20 min load time
18:37.29|Kev|if you're smart enough to know that you should 'design' programs rather than vomit them then it's ok
18:37.30kenlyricSaraz, I will help you kill them.
18:37.38|Kev|but for most people, it's the worst idea on earth
18:37.54|Kev|and I'm not really sure about it being ok for the smart ones
18:38.09CIA-1103saroz * r33669 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: Rabbit is trying to be smart, but we're not having it!!
18:38.18phyberRails has great linear scaling.  1 server = 1 req/s.  2 servers = 2 req/s, etc.  amazing technology ;)
18:38.28phyber(maybe not that bad, but pretty poor performance)
18:38.37|Kev|as far as Java goes, it may not be suitable for plugins, but it has a lot going for it as a language, because it forces the coder to write structured code
18:38.37kenlyricbut it *sounds* fast.
18:38.43CIA-1103gagorian * r33670 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
18:38.43CIA-11DogTag-1.0:
18:38.43CIA-11-Added hidecontains( arg )
18:38.44Sarozsomeone fucked up google groups
18:38.45kenlyricit's Ruby on RAILS, baby
18:38.45|Kev|which if you're not a top coder, is good
18:38.46phyberfor developing the app, maybe ;)
18:39.02|Kev|and if you have to deal with the code of someone who's not a top coder, even better :)
18:39.42Arrowmastermost java apps ive seen that havent been produced by a large programing and design team completely blow
18:39.48|Kev|s/java//
18:40.39pastamancermost apps completely blow
18:40.59Arrowmasterive seen many good apps by single developers, just none in java
18:41.13|Kev|I've written decent enough code in Java
18:41.32|Kev|better than my three-day effort at objective-c anyway ;)
18:41.58Arrowmasterwell its usually the interfaces that are the problem with java stuff
18:42.56|Kev|right, swing isn't very pretty
18:43.06Arrowmasteror fast
18:43.06|Kev|although isn't there Qt for Java now? That might be a good option
18:44.31CIA-1103ckknight * r33671 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - now color the backdrop and border of elites and rares gold and gray, respectively. There's an option to change the color.
18:45.53jaetehmm, FuBar_LocationFu complains about not finding a library instance of Tourist-2.0
18:46.05jaetesomeone forgot to update the libs in that or something?
18:47.20Arrowmasterno its included
18:47.42Arrowmasterhow are you updating?
18:48.06jaetei nuked my wtf dir completely, only installed fubar + (some of) its plugins with wow ace updater, from wowace.com/files, only have fubar + its plugins enabled, it says that
18:48.26Arrowmasterusing 1.7 final of WAU?
18:48.42|Kev|mau
18:49.02jaeteyes my bad, mac ace updater
18:49.12ckknightGagorian: you realize your last commit was pointless, right?
18:49.15|Kev|which I haven't touch in an age, but I have no reason to belive doesn't still work
18:49.19Arrowmasterwtf
18:49.39|Kev|what's wtf about mau?
18:49.41Arrowmasterckknight: go prod somebody to fix the update script
18:49.49ckknightur mom
18:49.55CIA-1103ckknight * r33672 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - revert Gagorian's commit. I already put hidecontains in there.
18:50.30Arrowmasterjust downloaded FuBar_LocationFu-r31773.31.zip and it does not have touristlib in it
18:50.49Arrowmasterbut checked the svn externals and its set
18:51.09Sarozwe need Funkeh` to get working on littlewigs, to clean up stuff
18:51.16CIA-1103ulic * r33673 10LittleWigs/ (README.txt TempestKeep/Pathaleon.lua): LittleWigs: Added despawn message for Pathaleon's adds
18:51.41hyperChipmunkckknight: that's mad fugly
18:51.49ulicis it that messy?  I know I'm not a pro, but...
18:52.06ckknighthyperChipmunk: ?
18:52.28Sarozulic, give message on despawn itself, he yells something
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18:52.46Sarozlike "it's just you and me now"
18:52.47Sarozor something
18:53.17ulicSaroz: thanks for the tip, I was going off vhaarr suggestion as I haven't run the instance yet :)
18:53.24Sarozah ok
18:53.27hyperChipmunkthe gold; might just be the semitransparency with the backdrop
18:53.30SarozI hate that boss -.-
18:54.01hyperChipmunki think coloring the whole frame backdrop is a little much; can it be done with just the border?
18:55.58ulicSaroz: in the logs I was sent I have "I prefer the direct approch..." and "A minor invoncenience." either of those ring a bell?
18:55.59Gagorianckknight: !
18:56.03Funkeh`Saroz: ulic needs to learn :)
18:56.14Gagorianckknight: Whoops. Teaches me to try to update stuff while raiding :P
18:56.27Saroz'
18:56.31Saroz"I prefer the direct approch..." I think
18:56.33ulicwell my primary goals was modules for myself, but why not share with the world :)
18:56.34Sarozthe other makes no sense
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18:56.56ckknighthyperChipmunk: I have a hidden border, and the hidden border is by default, so no dice
18:57.00ulicI'll check some of the strategy sites see if anyone knows for sure.
18:59.13CIA-1103funkydude * r33674 10BigWigs/SC/ (Hydross.lua Morogrim.lua):
18:59.13CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Morogrim/Hydross:
18:59.13CIA-11- allow more scanning time for latency
18:59.50hyperChipmunkare the backdrops able to be colored different? the castbar is the ugly part
19:01.55CIA-1103arrowmaster * r33675 10FuBar_LocationFu/libs/: FuBar_LocationFu: removed trailing whitespaces from externals
19:02.08Arrowmasterjaete: update in 20 minutes
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19:04.53Sarozhrrrm
19:05.13Sarozone thing I always wonders about these UNIT_HEALTH things in bigwigs, Funkeh`, why arent they sync'd?
19:05.32Sarozchances are dps have the boss targetted, and healers dont
19:06.20Arrowmasteri thought most of them were synced, when they actually triggered message
19:06.26snirkshi ckknight
19:06.37Saroznah, I saw at least 2-3 that dont sync
19:06.45snirksckknight: there was a bug with line 502 in \aura.lua, on the highlight check
19:06.58snirksim a warrior
19:07.04Sarozim a paladin
19:07.05snirksit was set to "only stuff i can cure"
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19:09.38ckknightk...
19:10.50nevcairiel[Ammo]/vhaarr: ...hic! detection in BossBlock is not working
19:11.10Arrowmasternevcairiel: using ImprovedRWF?
19:11.14nevcairielno
19:11.18nevcairielno RWF frame
19:11.23vhaarrnevcairiel: ah, well we haven't even thought about that.
19:11.46nevcairielhm
19:11.52nevcairielthere was a block for hic
19:11.55nevcairielsome time ago
19:12.06Arrowmasterwait ...hic! should only appear in party and raid chat
19:12.17nevcairielit appears in RWF as well :p
19:12.35Arrowmasternow thats just stupid
19:12.42teh_squidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYmsT860q9o
19:13.03nevcairielvhaarr: i am quite certain there was such a block in bigwigs soem time ago, not sure if bossblock got a rewrite tho
19:13.15Arrowmasterbossblock got a big rewrite
19:13.30vhaarrnevcairiel: Hrm, the old rx might have catched it.
19:14.31Arrowmasterstandalone bossblock used "%*+ .+ %*+$" as of last update however long ago that was
19:14.55FISKER_Qi got justicar leggings
19:14.56FISKER_Qomg
19:15.30Pneuamagad is there a way to turn off them bloody priority message bars in bigwigs?
19:15.39vhaarrOf course.
19:15.54Sarozthey suck FISKER_Q
19:15.55Sarozbadly
19:16.03SarozGet legplates of the innocent
19:16.13nevcairielI love the priority bars
19:16.20nevcairielfinally some movement on my screen!
19:16.21nevcairiel:)
19:16.41Sarozthey are called "we ripped off RDX" bars
19:16.45Arrowmasterwhy did bigwigsbossblock get changed to hook RWF:AddMessage() instead of RWF_OnEvent?
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19:17.18pastamancerSaroz: screenshot?
19:17.23vhaarrArrowmaster: What's wrong with AddMessage?
19:18.03Pneualso, has anyone noticed whirlwind is broken on Maulgar now?
19:18.13Sarozsorry dont have a movie of it pastamancer, go fight a boss!
19:18.17kenlyricSaroz, and isn't RDX "we ripped off bigwigs"?
19:18.25Sarozyea
19:18.27Saroztrue true
19:18.31Sarozso I guess it evens out
19:18.33Arrowmastervhaarr: well when you use something like ImprovedRWF to add stuff like the senders name to the message then do a spam check, bossblock ends up doing another spam check on stuff that cant possible ever be spam
19:18.33kenlyricthey cycle of life!
19:18.39Sarozcircle*
19:18.50kenlyriccycle of rebirth!
19:18.52vhaarrArrowmaster: Feel free to fix.
19:18.53Sarozlet's all watch The Lion King
19:19.01kenlyricfuck the lion king
19:19.15SarozI don't do animals
19:19.22Arrowmastervhaarr: although if the regex's in bossblock were editable by other addons it might be better
19:19.31nevcairielpastamancer: enable it, activate local test in BigWigs
19:20.03art3miswords cannot express how irritating that lock bars on combat shit is
19:20.18vhaarrArrowmaster: Alright, I don't have a problem with that.
19:20.24art3misi move bars something attacks me and i get to alt-f4 reboot so that the friggin thing isnt stuff to my mouse
19:20.31nevcairiellol
19:21.01SarozWhy havnt people noticed the emphesis bars before now
19:21.07Sarozit's been in for at least a week
19:21.17FISKER_Qyou wanna do it in my butt?
19:21.18nevcairielthat reminds me
19:21.20FISKER_Qoh hi
19:21.21art3mis*shakes fists at bartender3 and blizz
19:21.30pastamancernevcairiel: I'm at work
19:21.46art3misemphesis?
19:21.46FISKER_Q*shakes fist at prat*
19:21.46Sarozemphazis
19:21.46Sarozor whatever
19:22.32Sarozbut yea
19:22.32Sarozemphasize!
19:22.33art3misthis is where you explain what yer talking about ;P
19:22.33Punkie`You go FISKER_Q
19:22.33art3mis<-- slow
19:22.34Sarozbigwigs feature
19:22.34art3misoh
19:22.34Sarozmoves bars when 10 secs are left
19:22.34Sarozand flashes
19:22.44kenlyricyou mean so you notice them?
19:22.51Sarozyus
19:22.53Sarozflash red and all
19:22.54Sarozso nice
19:22.55pastamancerthat's madness!
19:23.01Sarozhaha
19:23.07SarozTHE SKY IS FALLING
19:23.11kenlyric"infernal visible, mages and warlocks look to the sky!"
19:23.20jaetenewest cartographer, or one of its plugins, doesn't seem to have some required lib either... or something. complains about touristlib not understanding that aceconsole requires aceoo, or something, after installing cartographer + some of its plugins
19:23.37CIA-1103nevcairiel * r33676 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Bartender3: stop bar movement when we enter combat
19:23.58FISKER_QWe must destroy prat Punkie`
19:24.07art3misyaya thanks
19:24.10FISKER_Qit's our mission in life
19:24.42nevcairielSaroz: because before now, it wasnt on by default :P
19:25.01GagorianOne of BigWigs morogrim's bars is fucking huge and pushes the rest of the timer bars way out of position :P
19:25.26Sarozahhhhh nevcairiel, cewl
19:28.31FISKER_Qhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin <-i am the greatest!
19:29.56Sarozhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Kul+Tiras&n=Saroz <<- Better!
19:30.54[dRaCo]wth did you skill tailoring, fisker?
19:31.14Arrowmasterjaete: could you put the full error message up on http://ace.pastey.net/ and link it to me
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19:36.34jaetearrowmaster, can't seem to reproduce it now :p
19:37.11jaeteadded bugsack + bug grabber... that might have fixed it. or maybe when i restored some old savedvariables/* files? hmm nah
19:37.29Arrowmasterno clue
19:37.58renchapwith bugsack the error isn't displayed but still occurs
19:38.04renchapare you sure there is no error ? :)
19:38.10jaeteyeah
19:38.13kaidenanyone on that manages the svn accounts? :)
19:38.17Megalongood night :c
19:38.17vhaarrjaete: You have an old AceEvent lying around.
19:38.55Gagorianckknight: Short and veryshort seem to be bugged too. Same issue?
19:39.09jaetei think it got fixed for me because bugsack includes stuff like newer aceoo-2.0
19:40.21ckknightGagorian: gimme the whole tagstring
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19:41.17Gagorianckknight: Well party is on absolute short for instance and still getting values like 18000
19:42.08ckknightyea, gimme the whole tagstring
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19:47.25GagorianTarget is on [fractionalhp:short:hidecontains(/100)][percenthp:percent:bracket]
19:47.31Gagorianbut, the rest is on the default option
19:47.45Gagorianermm, well one of the one's provided
19:49.22Punkie`FISKER_Q: do you like prat?
19:50.38CIA-1103ckknight * r33677 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - bugfix in short and veryshort
19:51.03GagorianMmkay, thanks
19:52.57kaidenis there a file i can create in a folder to make wau ignore that folder from then on out for updating?
19:53.03FISKER_Qof course Punkie`
19:53.05FISKER_Qbut i gotta sleep now
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19:53.58FISKER_QI leave you with this non-contradictable picture: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1177443878652.jpg
19:54.18Stephmwhaha
19:54.58kenlyricit would be better if the hello kitty was a shaving kit.
19:55.04kenlyricthen you'd have an actual analogy going.
19:55.14hyperChipmunkyea, it doesn't make sense
19:55.14Punkie`it has beads
19:55.16FISKER_QMac != Pc !
19:55.17Punkie`ISNT THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU
19:55.27FISKER_QSo we can't put in razor blades or anything like it
19:55.31FISKER_Qcause mac's are not pc's
19:55.37FISKER_Qbecause pc's got 1 billion trojans
19:55.47FISKER_Q(apparently)
19:56.37Punkie`nah
19:56.43Punkie`its a billion jillion
19:56.53Punkie`because that mac advert told me so
19:57.18FISKER_Qbuh bye!
19:57.27phyberwhat was the function that returned the client version?  I've forgotten it and it doesn't seem to be on wowwiki.
19:57.46kergothwhy do contractors never seem to contact me about jobs that are actually where i live at the moment?  no, they have to call about jobs in cali and shit.  GO AWAY
19:57.54kergoths/contractors/contractors and recruiters/
19:58.24vhaarrkergoth: is cali so bad? :)
19:58.54kergothi hear its quite nice, but i'd like to actually own another house sometime this decade
19:59.05hyperChipmunkhaha
20:01.19Stephmw'another'? I'm still waiting to have enough to buy my first!
20:01.33ZealotOnAStickkaiden: put a .svn in a folder you don't want WAU updating.
20:01.46ZealotOnAStickThen there should be an option in WAU to ignore SVN stuff.
20:02.00Aenslaedanyone have a link to a mirror of the test realm patch?
20:03.20kergothi own a small townhouse back in minnesota, only like a $125k place, like 1100 sq ft, 2 bedrooms.. better than nothing, my dad's living there and paying my mortgage at the moment.  good deal.
20:04.01ArrowmasterAenslaed: http://chuckg.org/wow/ptr/
20:04.11chuckgHmm?
20:04.15chuckgHaha, I might.
20:04.29Aenslaedoh :o
20:04.30chuckgApparently my Illidan video just hit the EJ forums.
20:04.34Arrowmasterlol
20:04.35chuckg2616 GB's of bandwidth gone in an hour.
20:04.39Arrowmasterwow
20:04.40chuckgNah go ahead.
20:04.43Aenslaedchuckg: may I download?
20:04.45Aenslaedok, thanks :D
20:04.51chuckgWhat's 7mb's?
20:04.55chuckgThat's like a drop in the water.
20:04.58Aenslaed210 :o
20:05.02chuckgOh *that* one.
20:05.06chuckgMeh, go for it.
20:05.18chuckghttp://chuckg.org/dump/2007/dreamhost_illidan.jpg
20:05.21Aenslaedi need to play around with gear for next arena season
20:05.30Aenslaedlol, dreamhost
20:05.40Arrowmaster503 error
20:06.19Aenslaeddreamhost wont care really.  They advertise it as unlimited upload so hah!
20:06.46*** join/#wowace gerber^Cavisup (n=Jon@c-71-200-85-204.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
20:08.06kergoththey should really be using traffic shaping and QoS to ensure one domain cant starve other services.
20:08.14kergothits their own fault for not doing so
20:08.21kaidenAenslaed, yeah they still fuss whenever you actually use your bandwidth
20:09.38Sarozfubar mod that shows paladin symbols?
20:10.16Aenslaedkaiden: perhaps. Better than my current webhost though. Been with them 3 years. First two they answered me whenever i had a technical problem or needed a backup.  Haven't gotten any service request replies in the last 4 months :(
20:10.30Aenslaedright around the same time they billed me for the next year in advance
20:11.06Stephmwkergoth: very good deal... I'd be lucky to find a 1 bed flat here for less than 300kGBP... ~$600k atm
20:11.18kergothdamn
20:11.43kergothminnesota has really low cost of living.. so does the phoenix area actually.. and the dallas area... everywhere i've lived has low cost of living.  thats a bit odd
20:11.48kaidenAenslaed, yeah i was with 1and1 til i found dreamhost, now i'm just saving up the extra cash to buy a dreamhost account
20:12.07kaidenkergoth, move to seattle then so you can drive the cost of living down here
20:12.17kaideni'm sick of paying 3 dollars for a crappy loaf of bread
20:12.20Aenslaedkaiden: goon?
20:12.25kaidenand 10 bucks for a pound of hamburger meat
20:12.29Stephmwkergoth: have you thought about Amazon's EC2 stuff?
20:12.35kergoth$10 for a pound? jesus
20:12.45kaidenAenslaed, goon??
20:12.49Aenslaednm
20:13.02pastamancerhaha
20:13.04Aenslaed1and1 and dreamhost both have discounts if you are from SA
20:13.23Aenslaedor, 1and1 used to. Not sure if they still have their 20% off coupon
20:13.40kergothhuh, hand theard of ec2, thats intersting
20:13.40kergothhadnt, rather
20:13.44Sarozhttp://chuckg.org/wow/cthun/cthunmove.gif
20:13.45Sarozhaha
20:14.01chuckgPro stratz.
20:14.14Sarozcan someone explain what expo does, I mean, you cant find strings in events or anything, so I don't get it
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20:15.28Arrowmasternothing compares to www.theindrake.com for pro strats
20:15.46AenslaedArrowmaster: lmao, thats my guild!
20:15.54Arrowmasterlol
20:15.55Aenslaedbut he stopped doing strats
20:16.37Arrowmasterthat sucks
20:17.55kaidenyou know what would be funny as hell and pretty awesome, as a hunter if you missed a shot if it had a chance of hitting another mob in the vicinity
20:17.59kaidenthat would be hilarious
20:18.11Chomperslike sheeps?
20:19.16kergothkaiden, hah, thatd be awesome
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20:19.46kergothitd be better if it could hit a friendly too.. if you miss, it could go anywhere, even hitting the tank in the ass
20:19.52kergoth"oops!"
20:19.52AenslaedArrowmaster: actually, I should bug him to do a lurker blow l2p. Thats a really fun fight.
20:19.58Aenslaedbelow*
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20:22.19ZealotOnAStickLittleWigs plays nice and is LoD, right?
20:22.55Aii|workit's a plugin for bigwigs, iirc
20:22.57Aii|workso yes
20:23.16vhaarrLittleWigs itself is not LoD, no, but you can make it.
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20:25.34NickenyfikenHeh have anyone ran instances on heroic as a melee DPS?
20:26.21sergioi've had rogues in my group before but not myself
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20:27.07kergoth<3 littlewigs
20:28.08ZealotOnAStickWell, seeing as how it's basically a BW plugin . . . why ISN'T it LoD by default?
20:28.15NickenyfikenYeah well it's a pain to survive
20:28.32NickenyfikenFucking cleave me for >3k and swipe for over 2k
20:28.44Nickenyfikensometimes they do 8k damage in a couple of seconds
20:28.51kergothZealotOnAStick, its just a grouping.  a convenience.  one addon instead of three.  just run the batch file to pull them out seperate
20:29.01ZealotOnAStickNo no . . .
20:29.03ulicZealotOnAStick: if you pull the zones out like BigWig, then the zones are LoD
20:29.09kergoths/bw plugin/bs plugins/
20:29.14kergother, s/bs/bw/
20:29.20ZealotOnAStickI don't mean each individual instance, I mean the general whole LW.
20:29.42vhaarrIs not LoD.
20:29.44ZealotOnAStickThe "if I don't step into a non-raid instance, this shouldn't be taking up my memory" concept.
20:29.52kergoththe whole lw isnt a bw plugin, its multiple bw plugins.  itd be pretty silly to duplicate the loading conditions of all the omdules it includes in the .toc of the main addon
20:30.12Arrowmasterbut it does
20:30.43vhaarrNo, it doesn't.
20:30.45Arrowmasterthe toc has the X-BigWigs- stuff in it
20:31.13vhaarrYeah, for all the modules, but not for each one individually.
20:31.32vhaarrIt's just not going to be LoD, no matter how much you want it.
20:31.51ZealotOnAStickSo . . . Littlewigs installed, I don't go into a non-raid instance, but do go into SSC.  Is it taking up memory?
20:32.02Arrowmasterif you just set the toc to LoD it will work exactly the same
20:32.06vhaarrUnless you run the BAT file, yes.
20:32.16vhaarrArrowmaster: And you know this because you designed the BW LoD system?
20:32.33Arrowmasterok no
20:32.49ZealotOnAStickHrm.  WAU unpacks it?
20:32.54Arrowmasteryes
20:33.08kenlyricdrrrr
20:33.58ZealotOnAStickok then.
20:35.13ZealotOnAStickfucking PTR crashes every time I try to log in.
20:35.52CIA-1103funkydude * r33678 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: SC/Hydross: shorten bar
20:35.58ZealotOnAStickDon't even get past the loading screen, I'm looking at the error submission box before I see a single texel of the 3d world rendered.
20:37.51SarozElkano, which buffbar am I suppose to get?
20:38.04kergothwhy is it when i go to the test realm character transfer page i see nothing but text saying "Loading" on the normal wow site backdrop
20:38.08kergothand it does nothing
20:38.16kenlyricoverload?
20:39.34AiianeZealotOnAStick: disable all addons?
20:39.35Aiiane+ wipe savedvars
20:39.57ElkanoSaroz, besides a few nonserious bugs and maybe an increased amount of updates, ElkBuffBars is most likely usable :)
20:41.37[dRaCo]is there any visible difference between ebb and ebbs?
20:42.35Elkanoif you want to, yes ^^
20:43.07Chompersit still kinda looks like ebb
20:43.20[dRaCo]and if I want it to look like ebb? ;)
20:43.26ElkanoChompers, only if you don't change the default layout
20:43.32Chompersyeah
20:43.41Chomperstheres alot more under the hood though
20:43.56[dRaCo]guess I'll give it a try, then
20:44.34CIA-1103ckknight * r33679 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua:
20:44.34CIA-11PitBull-Layout/ABF - changed the smart health to show fractional for enemies, missing for friends. Made smart the default.
20:44.34CIA-11Added Informational health, that shows missing, fractional, and percent. That's the default for player/pet
20:45.14DiaoAdded Informational health, that shows missing, fractional, and percent. That's the default for player/pet <-- bah i spent like 10 min figuring out how to do that for my own frames yesterday
20:45.16Diao:P
20:46.20ckknightlol
20:46.23ckknighttook me a minute
20:46.37ckknightI wrote DogTag, though
20:47.20krkayou commit too much!
20:47.25CIA-1103jayrox * r33680 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc): FuBar_VampwatchFu: Disabled AceDebug for the time being.
20:47.47Infineonhey
20:47.49ckknightlol, krka
20:47.50Sarozis NECB still shit?
20:48.02Aiianedefine 'shit'
20:48.06CIA-1103rabbit * r33681 10BigWigs/Plugins/ (Bars.lua Test.lua):
20:48.07CIA-11BigWigs: Bars:
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20:48.10Infineononestorage doenst work correct. it says dependancy missing -> ace2
20:48.12Sarozrapes my CPU
20:48.14Infineonis this known?
20:48.43Funkeh`Saroz: i had it installed during testing and it was working good
20:48.49Saroztesting?
20:48.56Funkeh`addon testing
20:49.00Aiianeive not really had problems with it cpu-wise
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20:49.11Funkeh`it is pretty efficient
20:49.31Aiianethen again my system isnt exactly the best to gauge cpu usage on
20:49.45Sarozcool
20:50.18Sarozit does so much though
20:50.20Sarozrespawn timers?
20:50.21Sarozwtf
20:50.25Chompersnetherspite = annoying
20:50.41Funkeh`Saroz: thats why its LoD
20:50.47Funkeh`Saroz: i turned off the PvE shit
20:51.13Silviu-Funkeh` your opinion is better then antagonist ?
20:51.29Funkeh`Silviu-: no, its completely dependant on what the use rneeds
20:51.46Funkeh`Silviu-: i raid lead sometimes so i need timers for virtually everything
20:51.53Aiianeditto
20:51.54Silviu-;)
20:51.59Silviu-~seen Wobin
20:52.35purlwobin is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 143 messages. Is idling for 5h 23m 35s, last said: '><'.
20:52.35Aiianeim more of the "more information is better" type
20:52.57Sarozthis is the one right: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/2786/natur-enemycastbar/ ?
20:53.13Sarozit got forked once, iirc
20:53.13snirkshate ppl that fucks up
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20:54.00shieldbSaroz, it used to be carnival enemy cast bar, but the original author stopped updating it iirc
20:54.08Sarozahh
20:54.14Funkeh`Saroz: yes thats the one i use
20:54.54vhaarrSaroz: nub, fix the things I listed for sRF
20:55.09Sarozyeees yes
20:55.15GagorianFunkeh`: Any idea why some BW bars are fucking huge on morogrim causing the other stuff to get aligned way off?
20:55.40Infineonhey one question. on a screenshot i saw performance fu showing memory usage
20:55.49Infineonhow can i get this displayed
20:55.49vhaarrInfineon: 2.1
20:55.57Infineonah ok
20:55.57Chompersthe new zoom in effect for bigwigs bars rocks
20:56.07InfineonChompers SIGNED
20:56.12Chompershow long have they been in?
20:56.17vhaarra week or so
20:56.19Infineoni noticed today :P
20:56.22vhaarrbut they were off by default
20:56.24vhaarruntil last night
20:56.27Chompersoh
20:56.33Chompersi never even saw that feature
20:56.42vhaarrit wasn't in the menu either
20:56.49vhaarrI had to wait for some aceconsole/dewdrop fixes
20:56.53Chompersoooh
20:56.57Chomperswell its awesome
20:56.59Gagorianvhaarr: It seems bugged.
20:57.02vhaarrGagorian: How so?
20:57.14GagorianOn morogrim grave and adds are emphasized
20:57.24GagorianBut it threw my other bars from the lower part of the screen to the upper part
20:57.31Gagorianblocking my unitframes
20:57.35vhaarrerr
20:57.38vhaarrthere are 2 anchors
20:57.43vhaarrmake sure you position them
20:57.45Gagorianhmm, new thing then
20:57.54vhaarrPlugins -> Bars -> Show anchor
20:58.22Gagorianalright, that makes sense then
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21:01.31Sarozbrr need good fucking cooldown mod
21:01.32Sarozgod damnit
21:02.04nevcairielfor what?
21:02.13Sarozto track cooldowns
21:02.19Tekkubmeh?
21:02.20nevcairielof?
21:02.22nevcairielonly your?
21:02.25nevcairielor raid?
21:02.39Sarozme
21:02.40Gagorian~seen cncfanatics
21:03.06purlcncfanatics <n=cvcncfan@41.87-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18d 4h 31m 31s ago, saying: 'it sucks though :;('.
21:03.06Elkanoyour update to corkfu, especialy removing PT, broke some of its modules
21:03.21Tekkubwhat other modules used PT?
21:03.43ElkanoADcommission and ... *checking*
21:04.01Tekkuberm, people still use AD Commissions? :)
21:04.15ElkanoShucks
21:04.29nevcairielhehe
21:04.44Tekkubshucks doesn't use PT
21:04.45Elkanowell, the module still makes sense for those in the level area ^^
21:04.54TekkubI'll fix AD
21:04.57ElkanoFuBar_CorkFu\\Shucks.lua:2: attempt to index global 'PeriodicTableEmbed' (a nil value)
21:05.10TekkubI wish blizzy would do away with the commissions
21:07.21kaidenbleh automaton's auto mailer code is broken it looks like
21:07.37Balstorpurl that was the information i needed :)
21:07.52Elkanoauto mailer code? what should it do?
21:07.55Sarozulic, warchief isnt working, at all, no bars, no warnings
21:09.03kaidenElkano, it used to when you alt clicked an item in your inventory and were on a send mail page auto send it to whoever was in your To: field
21:09.12kaidenthat way you could quickly send floods of items
21:09.35kergothyou sure that was automaton? i dont remember ever seeing that feature in it
21:09.36renchapkaiden: try postal
21:09.43kergothpostal does that, or tek's expressmail
21:09.54Matrix110or even ct_mailmod:P
21:10.02Funkeh`Saroz: theres probably a 2nd yell on engage
21:10.06kaidenok, can i get rid of PostMan then?
21:10.18Matrix110dunno if you can
21:10.18kaidendoes postal have the support to right click a mail that has an item to auto loot and delete the mail?
21:10.21Sarozgot it here Funkeh`
21:10.22Matrix110depends on you:P
21:10.41renchapkaiden: shift-clic
21:10.43cotangentyou can shift click a mail to do that
21:10.57cotangentor ctrl click to return
21:11.27kaidenkergoth, it may not have been automaton but i dont remember ever having expressmail or postal :P
21:12.00HjaltePostal still makes me block trades :(
21:12.21CIA-1103saroz * r33682 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Warchief.lua: LittleWigs: Add second engage trigger to Warchief
21:12.31renchapHjalte: logout
21:12.33kaidenargh, i'm also going nuts.. something keeps reverting my font size in my chat frames to 11
21:12.42kaideneven though i have prat setup to remember them as being font size 10
21:12.43renchapand remove the BlockTrades line in your config.wtf
21:12.54Hjalterenchap, what about setting it to 0?
21:12.59renchapshould work
21:13.15renchapbut you need to logout before
21:13.29HjalteI've just logged out and changed it, will try now.
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21:13.46renchapmaybe i should add an in game command to do this
21:15.39kaidenwhat are some good profiling mods that can show me what's using up the most memory etc?
21:15.46Sarozvhaarr, why no 15 second test bar?
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21:16.43vhaarrSaroz: ?
21:17.02vhaarrThere are 4 bars, 2 of them are longer than 15 seconds.
21:17.03Saroz-         self:Bar(L["Test Bar %d"]:format(1), 15, "Spell_Nature_ResistNature")
21:17.03Saroz+         self:Bar(L["Test Bar %d"]:format(4), 30, "Spell_Nature_ResistNature")
21:17.18kaideni'm such an addon whore
21:17.20vhaarrBecause it would've been emphasized right away.
21:17.31kaidenup to 158 addons right now
21:17.32Sarozyus, good for testing that feature
21:17.37kaidenand all of them are ace based :)
21:17.45vhaarrSaroz: Have you even tried it since the commit?
21:18.00Chompersits the arena point calculation tonight, right?
21:18.25Matrix110for EU yes
21:18.26Matrix110for US no
21:19.59kaidenoh wait i lie, TomTom / Lightheaded aren't ace based
21:21.11JoshBorkekaiden: they use Dongle
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21:27.32kaidenbtw whoever changed the ABF layout health text.. i love that
21:27.41kaidenfor pitbull that is
21:29.11ckknightme
21:29.34Ominous~clap ckknight
21:31.51[Ammo]ckknight: problem with party in pitbull
21:31.52kaidendunno what font ya'll use but i use Emblem on my frames and it looks very good with the texture i added to SharedMedia
21:31.58jaetehmm, pitbull is giving me weird blinkage on the focus & mouseover unit frames when i set combat fader to less than 100%, is this intended?
21:32.01[Ammo]ckknight: sometimes the healthbars don't update correctly while the dogtags do
21:32.07jaetehow do i turn the blinking off if it's not a bug?
21:32.20Ominousoh yea ckknight: last night i had a problem with pitbull raid
21:32.25[Ammo]as in dogtags show full health and mana (which is correct) while healthbars are at 60% or so
21:33.18kaidenbtw it would be awesome on Pitbull to be able to hide the spell icon from the castbar
21:33.23kaideni find that icon very annoying
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21:33.46Ominousckknight: the health/mana/text/color didnt update when the raid ids changed but the target which the frames represented changed, but disable raid frames and re-enable temporilly fixed
21:34.04chutwigOminous: i was having that problem last night as well
21:34.12chutwigso i reverted back to a version from the day before and it was okay
21:34.14[Ammo]I think it's all the same problem
21:34.19[Ammo]lazy updating..
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21:38.30Ominousbtw is acp working atm?
21:39.02cotangentI wasn't able to move the pitbull mouseover unit frame as it only showed up when I moused over a unit. Am I missing something easy?
21:39.26jaetewtf, wow just crashed when i was tweaking pitbull's mouseover target frame o_O
21:39.41Diaotry solo setup mode?
21:39.43Diaoconfig*
21:39.43Industrialtee hee I couldnt help it http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.new#new
21:40.35chutwigWoW was crashy for me yesterday as well
21:40.48chutwigi think i will hold off on updating for a little while :ninja:
21:42.15Ominousckknight: last night i also got a health nil error which i forgot which was happening every update which after 5 secs crashed wow in a critical error
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21:43.05jaetei think this was like the fifth time ever that wow crashes on me :)
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21:43.53chutwigi'm all out of beer :(
21:44.25kergoth:(
21:44.36pastamancerspawn more overlords
21:44.41pastamancerbeer overlords
21:44.51chutwigobeerlord
21:45.09kergothi miss starcraft
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21:45.22JoshBorkeyou should play it then
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21:45.34starcraftI miss you too, kergoth :)
21:46.08kergothaww
21:46.24CIA-1103eraslin * r33683 10DKPmon_eqDKP/exportmod.lua: DKPmon_eqDKP: Hopefully add DKP values to eqDKP export.
21:52.09kaidenAnyone wanna give me a hand at figuring out how someone did their quest mod?  http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041707201755qu1.jpg
21:52.37kaidenBy the looks of it he's using QuestFU but that quest watcher in the lower right doesn't look like quest fu, and i'm wondering how he changed the tooltip border to be black on it and the lightheaded and quest info
21:54.00JoshBorkemagic
21:54.05vhaarrkaiden: It's QuestsFu.
21:54.17vhaarrPerhaps Skinner to change the looks of the tablets, I don't know.
21:56.20nevcairielnite :)
21:56.32vhaarrnn
21:57.15Diaotransparent panel looks kinda cool
21:57.17Diaoon that ss you linked
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22:00.29kaidenyeah it looks awesome
22:01.55Kemayokaiden: Skinner does things to tablet frames, and QuestsFu uses Tablet for everything.  So it's probably Skinner doing it.
22:02.25kaidenKemayo, yeah i've told skinner to make the tablet border black and it's not doing it, also in that shot he has the zone header hidden
22:02.30kaidenwhich i'm not seeing as an option in questfu
22:02.38kaidenyou can remove the zone listing but if you do it shows all zones quests
22:03.03Kemayokaiden: That's probably not the main tooltip, but rather just the tracker.
22:03.19KemayoWhich tracks the watched quests.
22:03.20kaidendidn't know you could skin the tracker also
22:03.22kaideninteresting
22:03.25kaideni'll look into it thanks
22:03.38KemayoIt's a Tablet as well -- anything that skins the main tooltip should do the same to that.
22:03.41CIA-1103kaelten * r33684 10cgProfiler/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
22:03.41CIA-11cgProfiler -
22:03.41CIA-11-Added a komodo project file
22:03.41CIA-11-Added more depth on the stat gathering
22:03.41CIA-11-Now Collects what addons you use
22:03.43CIA-11-Now Collects who all is in your guild
22:03.59Kemayo"who all is in"? :P
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22:13.19CIA-1103kemayo * r33685 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (FuBar_QuestsFu.toc QuestsFu.lua lib/):
22:13.19CIA-11FuBar_QuestsFu:
22:13.19CIA-11- Quick optimization of party status. (Tests indicate that it cuts execution
22:13.19CIA-11time by about 50% to use an if/else to switch out a format string to avoid
22:13.21CIA-11typecasting. It's only 1 second in every 100,000 executes, but, hey, why not.)
22:13.23CIA-11- Trimmed out last use of babbleclass, so removed it from libs and toc.
22:13.30Killmoresince this morning, every time I run a "Update all installed addons" in wowaceupdater he always update !StopTheSpam and PitBull_BarFader
22:13.36Ominouswhat version do you have?
22:13.51ckknighthey all
22:14.10Killmore!StopTheSpam - Updating to rev 26541.2
22:14.21Ominousi mean of WAU
22:14.25Killmore1.7
22:15.08Ominousckknight: the health/mana/text/color didnt update when the raid ids changed but the target which the frames represented changed, but disable raid frames and re-enable temporilly fixed
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22:15.34ckknightOminous: when it changed how?
22:15.41ckknightwhen a party member joined or something?
22:15.45Ominousyea
22:15.47Ominousor i changed grps
22:16.10ckknightd'oh
22:16.35PneuLF someone who has played around with DKPMon
22:17.55CIA-1103ckknight * r33686 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - actually register events like RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE
22:17.56ckknightOminous: okay
22:18.27Ominouswell i cant test till tomorrow night as no raids till then and time for me to sleep son
22:18.41kaidenlol my buddy just im'd me a joke
22:18.46KillmoreOminous: any idea ? :\
22:18.51kaidenWhat do rogues and noobs have in common?
22:19.02Ominouskillmore: no
22:19.05kaidenThey both pick locks
22:19.22hyperChipmunkhahah
22:19.31hyperChipmunkclever!
22:21.17CIA-1103ckknight * r33687 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - don't recreate the same backdrop.
22:21.32ckknightlol, kaiden
22:22.37Punkie`someone has besmirched my picnic set!
22:22.38Punkie`http://www.booncontrol.com/pole.jpg
22:22.40Punkie`:(
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22:25.31ckknightlol
22:28.07Ominousnn all
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22:28.17Funkeh`boon control
22:28.22Funkeh`such an awesome guild lol
22:28.26Punkie`thanks
22:28.31Punkie`ammo is in it too
22:28.34Punkie`and he is GHEY
22:28.38Funkeh`hehe
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22:29.04kaidenit's ok to be ghey as long as you give more than you receive
22:29.05kaidenlol
22:29.17Punkie`i don't think so
22:29.23Funkeh`he deosn't think so
22:29.41Punkie`it's true
22:29.45Punkie`OMG WHAT
22:29.50Punkie`LITTLEWIGS?
22:29.53Punkie`??/?
22:30.40PneuFOR 5MAN?!?!
22:31.08Punkie`WHAT?
22:31.19Punkie`R.U.SERIUSS?
22:32.00GagorianLess crack please
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22:32.09Industrialor more
22:32.25GagorianA lot more in that case
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22:33.09Punkie`night night
22:34.29Funkeh`lol
22:34.38Funkeh`Punkie` is the crack master
22:36.22Pneuright, now before i go re-inventing the wheel, is there an easy way to sort a table in LUA?
22:36.44pastamancertable.sort
22:37.26Pneui guess that could work :)
22:37.35Pneuassuming i manage to get the comparison function right
22:37.47vhaarrJust read the PIL.
22:40.07Brunershow do you quit an arena team ?
22:40.15Brunersthe command
22:40.24hyperChipmunk/say screw you jerks
22:40.28hyperChipmunk/tquit
22:41.00hyperChipmunkactually, i think it's, e.g. /tquit 5v5
22:42.23Brunerswas tquit 5vs5
22:42.57Bruners-s
22:44.09CIA-1103ckknight * r33688 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - :SetHeight(0), :SetWidth(0) on delFrame
22:44.31ckknightnymbia: the bug where some aura texts were lower than others is fixed ^---
22:44.52nymbiackknight: nice :)
22:45.10ckknight:-)
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22:50.29CIA-1103nymbia * r33689 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
22:50.29CIA-11DrDamage:
22:50.29CIA-11- Local copies of a couple oft-used functions, speed up :Round a little.
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22:55.36CIA-1103ckknight * r33690 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - instead of coloring the border + background on elite/rare, force the Classic border and color just that.
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22:56.57ZealotOnAStickckknight: can there be an option to NOT do that?
22:57.06ckknightum
22:57.11ckknightthere could be
22:57.13ckknighttheoretically
22:57.22Pneueugh, doing a table.sort like http://ace.pastey.net/16731 makes me feel a little durty
22:57.23ZealotOnAStickRaid Instances are ALL elite mobs, and I'll tired very quickly of looking at the ugly border that I turned off to not have to look at in the first place.
22:57.25ckknightI'm already hacking Dewdrop, though
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22:58.22ZealotOnAStickThis is one of those "I'll guarantee you I won't be the only one that'd complain about this if there no way to NOT have the border forced" deals.
22:58.27nymbiaPneu: then dont
22:58.57Pneunymbia: i want the person with the most DKP at the top of the list :<
22:59.11ckknightZealotOnAStick: you do it
22:59.35nymbiaPneu: well, it doesnt need to be a closure
23:00.02Pneuhuh o.O
23:00.21ZealotOnAStickckknight: raid starting, and I'm a hack anyway not a useful programmer.  Kaelten keeps me around for administrivia.
23:01.03Diaowtb finished version of dreamchat :(
23:01.11ckknightlamer
23:01.12AKXDiao, DIY :P
23:01.15Pneualso, i wish gcode had trac :<
23:01.18Diaohaha
23:01.25DiaoI learn lua very slowly :(
23:01.44Diaoactually it's sylvanaar's ported version that I'm interested in
23:01.56AKXOh? I haven't been following... :P
23:02.06Diaohe ported a version to work with the new pratplugin
23:02.15AKXNeat. I'll have to take a look at some point.
23:02.18Diaobecause dreamchat doesn't work with all the modules that prat has
23:02.31Diaoeg timestamps, link capturing, etc
23:02.42AKXMmyeah.
23:03.48DiaoIt's the final thing I need to make my UI exactly how I want it to look
23:04.01DiaoRight now I just have 2 extra chat tabs, one for guild and one for party/raid
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23:04.56CIA-1103ckknight * r33691 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add option to show elite border, on by default.
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23:08.02CIA-1103ckknight * r33692 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - add validateDesc
23:09.01KoskunHey ckknight, got a sec?
23:09.52ckknightredgar: I suppose
23:10.10redgarif my memory serves, you are the maker of FuBar right?
23:10.27ckknightright
23:10.35ckknightamong other things
23:10.39redgarlol
23:11.30Threz_I have a question, in the mod revision number, the number after the . indicates only lib updates, right? (ie: Addon-r#####.# <- this part)
23:11.42redgarfirst, yea, switched back to it.  Really like it (again).  Is there a chance you could make (or know if there is one) a rider add-in that will auto-equip riding speed items and unequip them when you get off the mount?
23:11.43nymbiayup
23:11.55Threz_nymbia, thanks
23:12.03ckknightMountMe, redgar
23:12.05ckknightor something
23:12.14ckknightor ClosetGnome
23:12.15GnarfozClosetGnome_Mount, too, I guess
23:12.17Threz_I keep waiting for flexbar to be updated, and I get excited everytime there's a new timestamp... but it's always just the libs :P
23:12.19Gnarfozor ItemRack :>
23:12.58KinkxSimpleMountEquip > *
23:13.37vhaarr~seen ag`
23:14.06purlag` <n=ag`@0x503e79d4.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 18h 57m 19s ago, saying: 'nn'.
23:14.06vhaarrThrez_: Yes, that's a lib update.
23:14.11KinkxSimpleMountEquip is basically MountMe, but you can decide which trinket slot your riding crop gets equipped in
23:15.11redgarand will un-equip when you get off your mount?
23:15.19Threz_Thanks, vhaar
23:15.22Threz_r
23:15.50KinkxYea, SME will unequip your mount gear, and also have options to not equip your mount gear in BG/Arenas
23:16.39KinkxAnd it also uses ClearCursor() before it tries to equip your mount gear, which is nice
23:17.55kergothdoes SME also provide a mount keybinding?
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23:19.36KinkxI don't know, I don't think so.. I use a macro with Find Herbs added in it, so it's always up if I mount
23:19.47kergothhmm
23:20.26KinkxUsing BindPad, and set a key to my mount macro
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23:21.30Threz_how does BindPad compare to qUserkey?
23:21.51KinkxHaven't tried qUserKey, sorry
23:22.20Threz_np, neither have I.. a friend was just asking about a key binding addon
23:22.30CIA-1103nymbia * r33693 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua:
23:22.30CIA-11PitBull: Layout-ABF:
23:22.30CIA-11- The pixel padding between health and mana bars is causing display weirdness on frames of certain sizes and layouts, removing it for now.
23:22.30CIA-11- Please re-add it, but do it right.
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23:29.04Industrialhaha
23:29.13Industrialtaking 'thats what she said' and reversing it is fun
23:29.23Industrial"We aren't talking about your mom here"
23:29.32Threz_that's what she said
23:29.39Industrial"Thats what she said" "No wait, thats not right"
23:34.25ChompersPitBulls Informational health text is pretty cool
23:35.16Chompersnever knew you could mix different types of data together :P
23:35.35ckknightno reason why not :-P
23:36.13Chompersi made my own : [current hp | percentage of health]
23:36.31Chomperspretty cool for bosses, you know how far you got them before you wiped :)
23:36.44vhaarrI wonder why people are inspecting my priest on the PTR.
23:36.49Chompersyet still knowing their exact health, very powerful
23:36.50vhaarr"zomg look at his gear"
23:37.27ckknightperhaps target should also be informational.
23:37.46Chompersits alot to fit into one bar though
23:38.05Chompersthe whole current/ max health + percentage
23:38.18hyperChipmunkplus deficit
23:38.23hyperChipmunki like it, but w/o defecit
23:38.56knarf-defecit/max health is nice imho :>
23:39.20nymbiaand that's why it's customizable
23:39.27knarf-anyway a comment from the sideline, and now i'm off to bed :)
23:39.29nymbiabecause knarf- likes weird things. ;)
23:39.35Chompersyup, pretty awesome
23:39.35knarf-:<
23:39.41knarf-g'night
23:40.04Chompersi've tried to get people to try out pitbull, but they're scared off by how complicated it looks to them
23:40.30Chompersdamn people stuck in their old ways of aguf
23:40.40ckknightit looks just like agUF
23:40.40ckknightwtf
23:41.03nymbiathey're whiners
23:41.19vhaarrPitBull still has problems, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone yet.
23:41.30KilrooI never did get around to trying to make unitframes I liked using Visor.
23:42.14KilrooOr more accurately, finding out whether I could remove and relocate parts of the default ones with it in a way that I liked.
23:42.29KilrooI think that was because I decided Minigroup2 was less hassle.
23:42.34CIA-1103ckknight * r33694 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull-Layouts/ABF - added "Absolute and Percent" health text style
23:42.42hyperChipmunk$$
23:42.43KilrooI'm looking forward to trying Pitbull though.
23:42.44kaidenwow, you can already buy pirated versions of Spiderman 3 on the streets of beijing china
23:42.44Chompersit hard crashed for one person
23:42.53kaidenand it's a full dvd of it (dvd quality and all)
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23:42.56Chompersnow no one wants to try it :/
23:43.08Kilroohehehe, you said hard.
23:43.08Chompersfull dvd?
23:43.18Chompersi'm guesing russian r5?
23:43.20vodrinkaiden; surely its on normal torrent sites by now then ?
23:43.38kaidenvodrin, that's what i would have thought but apparently not
23:43.56Chompersjust because its on a dvd doesnt mean its not a shitty cam recompressed into mpeg2
23:44.03vhaarrChompers: That's what happens when you try to promote something before it's ready for general usage.
23:44.23Chompersperhaps vhaarr
23:44.48shieldbvhaarr, I dunno, seems to be working pretty well for microsoft with vista ;)
23:44.51hyperChipmunkckknight: ABF.lua: 840: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 830) near '['
23:44.57Chompersbut i'm a moron,  i can use it just fine
23:45.04kaidenChompers, considering it's not playing in theaters anywhere in the world yet i dont see how it can be a cam
23:45.22vhaarrshieldb: I think we're talking about different thing.
23:45.24CIA-1103ckknight * r33695 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull-Layouts/ABF - commas ftl
23:45.27Chompershrm, private viewing?
23:45.29Chompersworkprint even
23:45.44shieldbpromoting something before it's ready for general usage?
23:45.50vhaarrshieldb: ah, lol
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23:45.53kaidenaccording to news services someone broke into the studio where it was being finished up and stole the final workprint the one right after everything was done
23:45.54vhaarryes, true
23:46.15Chomperssweet, lets hope they rip it correctly
23:46.36Chompersi mean....those scoundrels!
23:46.50kaidenlol i agree ;)
23:46.55JJSheetswho stole what from where now?
23:47.01kaidenI mean, i'm gonna see it in theaters of course
23:47.03kaideni just wanna see it now
23:47.14Chompersi like watching films at home
23:47.19vodrinimpatient buggers!
23:47.19Industrialwhy would you go to the theater if you've already seen it?
23:47.20kaideni wish they would make an online theater to where you could just stream stuff
23:47.22ckknightyea, theaters suck
23:47.27kaideni'm sure they could protect it somehow :(
23:47.36Chompersif i can get a decent version to watch before i buy it on dvd, perfect
23:47.48vodrini love how in the uk, in theaters those adverts about piracy, you get that one where he triumphs the quality in the cinema
23:47.50kaidenJJSheets, hope you dont mind my botmail errors i sent ya
23:48.00Industrialyou know what? I'm not watching it at all. cuz its shite.
23:48.08vodrinand how you'd be mad to want to watch a film with people standing in the way and people coughing over the soundtrack
23:48.19JJSheetsI see no botmail errors.  I did see your botmail request.  :p  perhaps purl sucks today.
23:48.24vodrinbut surely the person recording it at the cinema had to put up with that crap too >.>
23:48.29JJSheetspurl, you suck!
23:48.41purlSorry!
23:48.41vodrinso a really stupid advert
23:48.45JJSheetslol
23:48.51nymbiano retaliation??
23:48.51Industrial:]
23:48.57nymbiapurl, you suck
23:48.59purland very well I might add
23:49.01kaidenJJSheets, you didn't see the one about shapeshifting/stance bars
23:49.03kaiden?
23:49.04Industriallol
23:49.07NightHawkTheSanehaha
23:49.11nymbiapurl, you suck
23:49.13purland very well I might add
23:49.13JJSheetskaiden, nope.
23:49.31NeoTrondoes anyone know of a good item link plugin for phpbb? I found one but it has one flaw - doesn't update item links in posts (unless cached) until you click on the link
23:50.01kaidenJJSheets, ok, shapeshift/stance bars are messed up, here's an example, i switch to catform it goes to the catform bar, i switch to prowl it switches to a prowl bar without even having stealth pages turned on shouldn't do that i dont think_) and then if i switch out of cat form from that bar, it switches back to the catform bar instead ot hte humanoid bar
23:50.45JJSheetsyou gotta be level 20 druid to get catform and prowl, right?
23:50.49kaidenand yes, i would LOVE a rename bar feature ;)
23:50.52kaidenJJSheets, yup
23:50.59CIA-1103kaelten * r33696 10cgProfiler/ (cgProfiler.toc profile/profile.lua raids/ raids/raids.lua):
23:50.59CIA-11cgProfiler -
23:50.59CIA-11-Adding beginnings of raid tracking
23:50.59CIA-11-Now Tracks friend lists as well
23:51.10hyperChipmunkJJSheets: infinibar is usable now =)
23:51.22JJSheetslet me check how old my treehugger/druid is now...
23:51.31JJSheetsty for the help hyperChipmunk!  :)
23:51.34Threz_is infinibar a good replacement for flexbar, until they get flexbar working?
23:51.59JJSheetsThrez_, InfiniBar is how I would've programmed FlexBar2.
23:52.34JJSheetsokay... two more levels on my druid...  guess I'll play it to give me an appreciation for my 'lock...
23:52.37kaidenThrez, there are no other bar mods
23:52.40kaidenInfiniBar is the only one
23:52.41kaiden:P
23:52.43JJSheetslol
23:52.49JJSheetsThere can be only One!
23:52.57Threz_:P
23:53.05kaidenshould have named it HighlanderBar
23:53.14Threz_Does it have a similar event system?
23:53.19kaidenor JetLiBar
23:53.23JJSheetslol
23:53.53JJSheetsClose Threz_, but some things that Flexbar did will never again be possible.
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23:54.09Threz_Hrm, really?
23:54.14Heriolollogiclab
23:54.24JJSheetsooh... 150% rest XP on my druid... this oughtta be sorta quickish...
23:54.26vhaarrThrez_: "orly", "yarly"
23:54.48kaidenJJSheets, i'm gonna have to tie you up and beat you with a wiffle ball bat til you add the ability for [key] bindings of alt / shift to show up as A+Modifier or S+Modifier
23:54.55kaiden;P
23:54.59Chompers...waffle ball?
23:55.03Threz_vhaarr: I'll remember for next time :P
23:55.04kaidenwaffles.. yum
23:55.07hyperChipmunkmmm waffle
23:55.14Chompersi want waffles now
23:55.15JJSheetskaiden, bugs first.  :p
23:55.24kaidenJJSheets, bugs schmugs
23:55.28hyperChipmunkinfinibugs
23:55.35Threz_JJSheets, what kind of stuff will no longer be possible? I'm looking at changing buttons based on cooldowns/abilities being ready
23:55.38JJSheetslol
23:55.51kaidenThrez_, like that.. logic is not possible at all
23:55.51JJSheetsThrez, impossible, TBC killed that.
23:55.58Threz_srsly?
23:56.01kaidenyup
23:56.05JJSheetssrsly
23:56.09JJSheetslol
23:57.05kaidenbleh, bbiaf.. have to do chores if i want my s.o to cook.. and i'm hungry and want food so must clean to earn it :P
23:57.08Chompersck, i need your help
23:58.05Chompersi want my health bar to have everything that informational does but no overall health, just current health
23:58.23Chompersis there anywhere i can go to look up the various commands i can use?
23:59.05vhaarrChompers: It's right there, on the option description, isn't it?
23:59.29Chompersill enable tooltips, one sec
23:59.35Chompers...ah
23:59.35vhaarr"Usage: DogTag-1.0 tags. See http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0."

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