| 00:00.21 | hyperChipmunk | O |
| 00:00.23 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 00:00.24 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 00:00.31 | Amadeo | that's his O face |
| 00:00.39 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33437 10PitBull/Experience/Experience.lua: PitBull-Experience - don't show rest when not rested |
| 00:01.20 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Is a new Planet Earth on now, or is it like an old episode marathon all night too? |
| 00:01.36 | hyperChipmunk | new one just started |
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| 00:01.55 | hyperChipmunk | the previous ones were on all day, now they're showing the two new ones |
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| 00:02.27 | Funkeh` | ckknight: seems to be a slight bug in the castbar |
| 00:02.46 | Funkeh` | ckknight: sometimes if you wonder away from a mob casting someting, the icon for the cast fades, although the casting abr stays |
| 00:02.47 | ckknight | oh? |
| 00:03.25 | Funkeh` | bar* |
| 00:03.49 | Funkeh` | actually no |
| 00:03.58 | Funkeh` | it just seems to fade randomly, even staying still |
| 00:05.53 | CIA-11 | 03laotseu 072.1.0 * r33438 10AllPlayed/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:05.53 | CIA-11 | AllPlayed: |
| 00:05.53 | CIA-11 | - New branch for 2.1.0 patch |
| 00:05.53 | CIA-11 | - AllPlayed now detects if the BC expansion is installed |
| 00:05.53 | CIA-11 | - Option to use the pre-2.1.0 patch colour for Shaman |
| 00:07.51 | Killmore | what is the command to show pitbull ? |
| 00:10.37 | ckknight | there is no command, it shows automatically. |
| 00:10.49 | ckknight | use the minimap button, if anything |
| 00:11.22 | Killmore | I just disable the button on minimap by mistake and I dont see it in fubar |
| 00:11.37 | Funkeh` | ckknight: another thing, you used to be able to move the frames with alt+drag even when globally locked |
| 00:11.45 | ckknight | yes, I removed that |
| 00:11.47 | ckknight | on purpose |
| 00:12.07 | ckknight | Killmore: /pitbull |
| 00:12.17 | Funkeh` | ckknight: reason? |
| 00:12.18 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 00:12.26 | ckknight | Funkeh`: cause that's what I use to purify people |
| 00:12.46 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 00:12.52 | Killmore | thx |
| 00:13.29 | nymbia | that's so annoying |
| 00:13.35 | nymbia | i dont get why everyone does that :( |
| 00:13.47 | nymbia | i dont want everything moving around just cuz i've got alt down |
| 00:13.58 | Tain | You have to purify yourself in Lake Minnetonka. |
| 00:14.50 | ckknight | Tain: unless you have a paladin friend |
| 00:15.58 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33439 10PitBull_InteractLines/PitBull_InteractLines.lua: |
| 00:15.58 | CIA-11 | PitBull_InteractLines: |
| 00:15.58 | CIA-11 | - Play nice with the new menu layout |
| 00:18.30 | Funkeh` | nymbia: barfader seems to like changing the strata for health when sliding, its quite obvious on a target with a raid icon |
| 00:18.30 | Funkeh` | the raid icon will appear on front and behind the health constantly |
| 00:18.33 | nymbia | wha? last i messed with it it set the frame level once when the frames were created |
| 00:18.34 | nymbia | >.< |
| 00:19.16 | Killmore | ckknight: look http://killmore.org/pitbull_rep.jpg |
| 00:19.21 | nymbia | (i don't actually use it, stuff moves too fast in arenas) |
| 00:19.31 | [dRaCo] | uh, yeah... pitbull's range check sometimes only changes the alpha of the castbar, not the whole unitframe. known behaviour? |
| 00:19.37 | Killmore | I still have this rep bar even if I select "disable" |
| 00:19.41 | Funkeh` | its only the smooth value(when moving) |
| 00:19.51 | nymbia | [dRaCo]: who wrote range check? |
| 00:19.51 | Funkeh` | then when it stop the strata goes abck to normal |
| 00:19.58 | nymbia | hm |
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| 00:20.06 | ckknight | Killmore: that's the experience bar. |
| 00:20.19 | [dRaCo] | dunno, nymbia, lemme check |
| 00:20.34 | Killmore | doh |
| 00:20.39 | [dRaCo] | it says "AP" |
| 00:20.46 | Killmore | ckknight: suggestion, auto disable it when 70 :P |
| 00:20.54 | ckknight | Killmore: oh yea, probably should |
| 00:21.53 | vhaarr | Not at 70, at MAX_PLAYER_LEVEL. |
| 00:23.02 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33440 10PitBull/Experience/Experience.lua: PitBull-Experience - disable when you hit MAX_PLAYER_LEVEL |
| 00:23.42 | Killmore | yeah sorry, I dont know the exact term :P |
| 00:24.06 | ckknight | well, try that |
| 00:26.20 | sergio | okay, is it just me or do pitbull auras lag the fuck out of the game in a raid. i.e. more than 16 |
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| 00:27.37 | Killmore | I didnt raid today but the other day it was ok |
| 00:27.40 | [dRaCo] | worked fine a few hours ago |
| 00:28.09 | [dRaCo] | been to karazhan 3 hours ago, no problem |
| 00:28.17 | nymbia | the texture creation gets really slow once you've got about 300 up |
| 00:28.31 | nymbia | i dont know what to do about it. |
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| 00:31.22 | ckknight | one idea, nymbia |
| 00:31.27 | ckknight | are textures anchored to other textures? |
| 00:31.32 | nymbia | no |
| 00:31.34 | ckknight | or directly to the frame? |
| 00:31.39 | nymbia | to the auraFrame |
| 00:31.49 | nymbia | and it's not even positioning that's slow |
| 00:32.08 | nymbia | as far as i can tell, it's just creation of frames when there arent any in cache |
| 00:32.08 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:32.41 | nymbia | i couldnt really get anywhere with it, maybe you can find something |
| 00:32.43 | ckknight | well, run some tests, basically, wrap the create call in a time check |
| 00:33.04 | nymbia | alright |
| 00:33.07 | ckknight | see if it grows over time |
| 00:33.47 | nymbia | it seemed to be growing exponentially acutally |
| 00:33.57 | knarf- | hmm my rating buster and auctioneer is still borked :< |
| 00:34.10 | ckknight | nymbia: well numbers would be nice :-) |
| 00:34.10 | nymbia | maybe a hundredth of a second for the first few, then 3 seconds for the last ones |
| 00:34.17 | nymbia | but yeah i'll take a look |
| 00:34.42 | ckknight | nymbia: may even want to do it right in the newFrame function |
| 00:34.50 | nymbia | ok |
| 00:35.57 | ckknight | we basically want to figure out if it's our fault or Slouken's fault |
| 00:36.11 | nymbia | indeed |
| 00:36.42 | knarf- | ckknight was the ratingbuster / auctioneer mod AceEvent bugs fixed? |
| 00:37.02 | ckknight | no idea, I don't use either. But I believe AceEvent is fixed |
| 00:37.21 | knarf- | I have to load auctioneer with MCPFu |
| 00:37.29 | knarf- | and ratingbuster seems to be not loading |
| 00:39.09 | knarf- | weird :< |
| 00:39.31 | Chompers | Update all your addons manually |
| 00:39.37 | Chompers | its a lib problem |
| 00:40.19 | knarf- | I have no embedded libs |
| 00:43.35 | sbu | mh nexus prince shaffar is pretty hard |
| 00:43.37 | sbu | on heroic |
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| 00:53.07 | Phatrik | hmmmm wierd, suddenly TrinketMenu is busted :/ |
| 00:54.13 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33441 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua): Cartographer: Move the GetCurrentVelocity function to Waypoints, and only update its return values if there's a waypoint active. |
| 00:54.34 | ckknight | thanks, vhaarr |
| 00:54.40 | art3mis | woo maulgar down 3rd try |
| 00:54.46 | Cryect2 | congrats |
| 00:55.15 | CIA-11 | 03shieldb * r33442 10Incubator/Locale-frFR.lua: Incubator: frFR localization fixes |
| 00:55.33 | vhaarr | you're welcome |
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| 01:03.04 | Kilroo | wow, quiet in here |
| 01:03.13 | Amadeo | Planet Earth is on |
| 01:03.16 | Amadeo | you can't talk during it! |
| 01:03.24 | Kilroo | Yes I can |
| 01:03.26 | Kilroo | I just checked. |
| 01:03.39 | Amadeo | Nope, I tricked you! You're typing! |
| 01:03.46 | Kilroo | I know. |
| 01:03.54 | Kilroo | I talked, too, just to make sure. |
| 01:04.12 | Amadeo | :( |
| 01:04.25 | Kilroo | I just had one of my random thoughts...I wonder what is the most popular non-Ace addon among Ace addon developers... |
| 01:04.39 | [dRaCo] | msbt? |
| 01:04.56 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33443 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Default to disabled in battlegrounds. |
| 01:05.58 | Kilroo | Hmm |
| 01:06.21 | Kilroo | think I'll catch up on my webcomics before I go back to planning what addons to try during my Burning Trial. |
| 01:07.20 | Amadeo | I use MSBT |
| 01:07.27 | Amadeo | but I think a lot still use SCT |
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| 01:07.31 | Kilroo | What's MSBT? |
| 01:07.33 | vhaarr | "still"? |
| 01:07.38 | Kilroo | I thought SCT was now Ace2. |
| 01:07.44 | [dRaCo] | MikScrollingBattleText |
| 01:07.48 | vhaarr | You're saying it like we would change to MSBT some time in the future. |
| 01:07.58 | Amadeo | vhaarr: You should! :) |
| 01:08.28 | Amadeo | SCT is Ace2 now |
| 01:08.57 | Kilroo | I misunderstood the implications of the word "still" |
| 01:08.57 | Phatrik | ok, I think I have gotten a very wierd bug\error ... I removed TrinketMenu and all SV files... but still the game pops up an error about TrinketMenu when I activate a trinket :| |
| 01:09.14 | Kilroo | because I didn't realize MSBT might serve a similar purpose |
| 01:09.37 | Amadeo | I dunno, I like MSBT more, I figured others did too :) |
| 01:10.02 | Tain | I like MSBT more also. |
| 01:10.44 | Kilroo | The main reason I like SCT is for seeing how hard my ambush criticaled... |
| 01:11.25 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33444 10PitBull/Experience/Experience.lua: PitBull: Experience: Option tweaks. |
| 01:11.28 | Tain | I don't know what SCT has been up to but I'm really petty and when Greyhoof bitched about someone "stealing his addon" I got turned off. |
| 01:12.13 | Amadeo | I remember that :) |
| 01:12.39 | hyperChipmunk | yea i did too |
| 01:12.46 | hyperChipmunk | then found out i liked msbt better anyway |
| 01:12.52 | Kilroo | I don't remember that at all. |
| 01:13.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I still use SCT, some of the MSBT stuff annoyed me. |
| 01:13.21 | Kilroo | I bet that's because I never knew about it in the first place though. |
| 01:13.38 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: Nice work on BT3, it seems like the CPU time is really coming down. |
| 01:13.39 | Kilroo | What about MSBT is better, in someone's opinion? |
| 01:13.53 | [dRaCo] | customizable trigger |
| 01:14.08 | Kilroo | um |
| 01:14.13 | Kilroo | Well, I don't use guns. |
| 01:14.20 | [dRaCo] | ... |
| 01:14.33 | hyperChipmunk | it ran much less memory for me, and i preferred the customizations |
| 01:14.35 | Amadeo | Gmail been slow for anyone lately? |
| 01:14.37 | Kilroo | Sorry, let me rephrase |
| 01:14.44 | vodrin | I LOVE DOT/HOT THROTTLING! |
| 01:14.47 | Kilroo | What does a customizable trigger do? |
| 01:14.49 | hyperChipmunk | oh yes |
| 01:14.52 | hyperChipmunk | absolutely |
| 01:14.53 | vodrin | sry for caps but i needed to emphasis my love |
| 01:15.01 | hyperChipmunk | /agree vodrin |
| 01:15.09 | hyperChipmunk | the clumping is awesome |
| 01:15.16 | Kilroo | Never mind. |
| 01:15.19 | vodrin | affliction warlock, multiple targets.. thats many many many numbers |
| 01:15.21 | [dRaCo] | you can define events you want it to show, kilroo |
| 01:15.27 | Kilroo | It sounds complex enough that I should just try it. |
| 01:15.33 | vodrin | + its nice to see what a Seed of Corruption does total / cast |
| 01:15.43 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33445 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull-Aura - slight optimization |
| 01:15.48 | vodrin | at a glance instead of a huge boom of 4 digit numbers |
| 01:16.03 | hyperChipmunk | hm, an accumulative dot thingy would be neato |
| 01:16.04 | vodrin | and stuff like shadoweave bonus being tidied up.. can't go without that feature at all |
| 01:16.23 | Andune | yep MSBT is awesome. also love the way the default setup of inc/outgoing/notification areas follow the HUD pattern pretty well. visually looks very nice |
| 01:16.45 | hyperChipmunk | yea, and it's really easy to adjust them to precisely the right curve |
| 01:17.16 | vodrin | ok thats unanimous then |
| 01:17.26 | vodrin | iew spelling |
| 01:17.58 | vodrin | oh spelt right never mind me i'm british |
| 01:18.54 | Kilroo | hmm... |
| 01:19.11 | Kilroo | I'm still not entirely clear on exactly what all ToFu does. |
| 01:19.47 | Kilroo | Sounds like a couple of the major selling points of both it an InFlight may be that they leave out the stupid pointless part of FlightMap that I actually liked, though. |
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| 01:21.07 | Amadeo | ToFu can be used in many ways, as it is flavored by whatever you cook it in |
| 01:21.46 | Kilroo | Let me be more sperciferic then. :-) |
| 01:23.46 | Kilroo | The main parts of FlightMap that I actually liked were (1) being able to see the entire flight grid at once, including prices and transit times, and (2) the resulting fact that I realized there was at least one case where it is worth the extra time running, to me, to save a few silvers by taking one flight instead of another...I forget where this was. |
| 01:24.25 | Kilroo | Note: Part of this was not so much for the measly half a gold or whatever I actually saved, but because I enjoyed the run involved for some reason. I don't remember why so that might not really apply anymore. |
| 01:28.26 | Amadeo | Gmail is slow as hell for me lately |
| 01:29.16 | Chompers | gmails still in delelopment? |
| 01:29.20 | Ominous | nope |
| 01:29.27 | Chompers | i thought postal took over |
| 01:29.27 | Amadeo | the real one :P |
| 01:29.31 | Amadeo | not addon! |
| 01:29.42 | Ominous | rofl |
| 01:29.45 | Chompers | lulz |
| 01:31.55 | Aiiane | i use thunderbird to check my gmail. lol |
| 01:32.32 | Amadeo | I found some old WoW screenshots the other day |
| 01:33.17 | Amadeo | lets see... |
| 01:34.22 | Amadeo | http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1593/balnazzarms9.jpg |
| 01:35.01 | Kilroo | Oh wow |
| 01:35.18 | Kilroo | Sometimes I almost forget some people put their action buttons at the bottom of the screen |
| 01:36.00 | [dRaCo] | where do you put yours? |
| 01:36.16 | Amadeo | http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8747/tharko5.jpg |
| 01:36.16 | Kilroo | just left of the minimap. |
| 01:36.44 | Deph|AFK | this is why my minimap is on the bottom of my screen... in proper RTS style |
| 01:37.24 | Amadeo | I don't even know how old these are |
| 01:37.27 | Kilroo | Because my action buttons are next to it?? |
| 01:37.27 | Amadeo | a couple years I guess |
| 01:37.46 | Amadeo | Old PvE server world PvP - http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2144/carebearsamplevc2.jpg |
| 01:39.11 | Amadeo | I used to have some beta screenshots, but I forget where I put them |
| 01:39.11 | Arrowmaster | oh wow this is weird, my override binding is activating on the same mouseup that it gets set http://ace.pastey.net/15680 |
| 01:41.08 | Amadeo | I miss those old unit frames |
| 01:42.30 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33446 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua Layouts/ABF.lua): PitBull: Aura: Option tweaks and a slight optimization. |
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| 01:46.21 | Arrowmaster | i wonder how bad it would be to securehook the MoveForwardStart and Stop functions |
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| 01:48.19 | Kaelten | good evening fellas |
| 01:48.20 | Amadeo | hiya Kaelten |
| 01:48.44 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33447 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: |
| 01:48.44 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: SC/Lurker: |
| 01:48.44 | CIA-11 | - add whirl timers |
| 01:49.10 | Arrowmaster | haha sweet it works http://ace.pastey.net/15681 |
| 01:49.57 | Arrowmaster | now to try and get double taping moveforward to work |
| 01:50.42 | Ominous | evening kaelten |
| 01:51.03 | Ominous | where can i get a copy of the frame xlm for the test realm? |
| 01:51.44 | Arrowmaster | Ominous: wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 01:52.26 | Ominous | ty |
| 02:02.02 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33448 10PitBull/ (Experience/Experience.lua Reputation/Reputation.lua): PitBull: Touch up the options for the reputation and experience bars slightly. |
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| 02:11.51 | vhaarr | ~seen arjuna |
| 02:11.56 | purl | arjuna <n=weechat@pool-71-161-51-137.clppva.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 73d 11h 20m 59s ago, saying: 'Adirelle|work: temporarily at least =)'. |
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| 02:28.01 | xyu | i'm doing kara for first time. /flex. We cleared all the spiders / dogs / bats in servant's quarters, now what happens? |
| 02:28.03 | xyu | no boss spawned :( |
| 02:28.23 | Diao | that's optional boss |
| 02:28.23 | Diao | o_O |
| 02:28.26 | ckknight | ring the gong |
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| 02:28.26 | xyu | yhea |
| 02:28.36 | xyu | Ther'ss a gong? |
| 02:28.51 | Phatrik | naw, just keep killing respawns |
| 02:28.58 | Phatrik | eventually you'll get an emote |
| 02:29.01 | xyu | oh ok |
| 02:29.05 | Phatrik | "blahblah lurks in the shadows" |
| 02:29.06 | xyu | gotta wait for respawns |
| 02:29.48 | Phatrik | don't take the optional bosses too lightly though, we did that and was like "oh, he actually does hit hard" :P |
| 02:29.57 | xyu | k :) |
| 02:30.01 | Arrowmaster | which one hit hard? |
| 02:30.08 | Arrowmaster | the dog? |
| 02:30.08 | Phatrik | the dog one or something |
| 02:30.13 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:30.34 | Arrowmaster | we were bored waiting on 2 more people show up so we decided to clear it with 8 |
| 02:30.35 | Phatrik | people just nuked, thinking he was a joke like the trash |
| 02:30.53 | Arrowmaster | got the dog and our tank was laughing about the 'hits hard' thing |
| 02:31.09 | xyu | we got lurker |
| 02:31.27 | Arrowmaster | got 2 voids from the crap drop though |
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| 02:31.49 | anenigma | those bosses might as well just drop voids |
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| 02:32.05 | anenigma | don't think anyone's ever actually "taken" the loot from them yet, for us at least |
| 02:32.06 | kenlyric | the bracers are an upgrade because the maiden is a bitch. |
| 02:32.29 | anenigma | probably depends on how fast you go through i guess |
| 02:32.40 | anenigma | took us ~2 weeks from start, to opera |
| 02:32.42 | kenlyric | the maiden is the only one that drops healing bracers. |
| 02:33.02 | Aiiane | maiden is easy o.O |
| 02:33.10 | xyu | Phatrik: where's the boss spawn? |
| 02:33.32 | kenlyric | maiden has died many times |
| 02:33.34 | Phatrik | check the dead end |
| 02:33.37 | kenlyric | she just refuses to drop my bracers. |
| 02:34.03 | kenlyric | so I'm using green level 70 of the prophet bracers, and those purple of the prophet bracers are an upgrade to them :) |
| 02:36.06 | Aiiane | ken: what class? |
| 02:36.41 | kenlyric | priestesses. |
| 02:36.47 | CIA-11 | 03mikk * r33449 10FuBar_HeyFu/Core.lua: FuBar_HeyFu: Remove leftover :Debug() on removing entries from archive |
| 02:36.55 | Aiiane | ah, same as me then |
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| 02:37.59 | Aiiane | almost nothing from kara is an upgrade for me :/ |
| 02:38.09 | Mikk | is it for anyone? |
| 02:38.19 | Mikk | kara epics are mostly a joke |
| 02:38.37 | Aiiane | the Ribbon might be, after 2.1 hits live |
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| 02:38.52 | Mikk | are epix getting a tweak in 2.1? |
| 02:38.53 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33450 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 02:38.53 | CIA-11 | PitBull_Aura: |
| 02:38.53 | CIA-11 | - Re-enable auras in config mode. |
| 02:38.53 | CIA-11 | - Note that this is not because they're fast; they're still slow. This is to help with the optimization process. |
| 02:39.00 | Aiiane | a few of them are |
| 02:39.05 | Aiiane | some of the trinkets got tweaked, etc |
| 02:39.10 | Mikk | bleh |
| 02:39.12 | Aiiane | i.e. ribbon was useless before |
| 02:39.16 | Mikk | all of t4 needs a massive boost |
| 02:39.16 | Aiiane | it now has a passive 11 mp5 |
| 02:39.25 | Aiiane | t4 didnt get tweaked almost at all |
| 02:39.27 | Aiiane | so sorry :/ |
| 02:39.28 | Mikk | doh |
| 02:39.41 | Mikk | well, not that you'd catch me wearing the t4 set for tanking with my druid |
| 02:39.48 | Diao | t5 is getting most of the upgrade i think |
| 02:40.12 | Aiiane | mhmm |
| 02:40.16 | Mikk | druid: nice healing set. nice magical dps set. what do ferlols get? like +15 to everything with a bunch of mp5 and +heal |
| 02:40.21 | Aiiane | due to the re-costing of sockets on it |
| 02:40.25 | Aiiane | t5 is getting better |
| 02:40.30 | Aiiane | but they didnt do much to t4 |
| 02:40.37 | Diao | warrior t6 makes me sad |
| 02:40.40 | Diao | the stats are so horrible |
| 02:40.49 | hyperChipmunk | they never said they wore doing anything to t4 |
| 02:40.50 | Antiar1 | T4 is basically purple-colored blue sets. |
| 02:40.57 | Aiiane | hyperChipmunk: we know |
| 02:41.01 | Aiiane | we just wish they were ;) |
| 02:41.03 | Mikk | indeed they are |
| 02:41.13 | Mikk | having said that, there's some niceish nonset drops here and there |
| 02:41.19 | Mikk | but the sets .... pfhfhtppptt |
| 02:41.44 | Aiiane | Diao: warrior t6 will improve the day blizz realizes shadowpriests dont stack spellcrit and spirit |
| 02:42.04 | Diao | lol |
| 02:42.15 | Diao | the tanking version of t6 has almost 0 str and agi |
| 02:42.17 | Diao | it's pretty bad |
| 02:42.30 | Diao | and the dps version has 0 hit 0 crit |
| 02:42.47 | Kilroo | O by the way. |
| 02:42.52 | kergoth | jeeze, thats terrible |
| 02:42.56 | Aiiane | so tank in the dps set, and dps in the tanking set :P |
| 02:43.01 | Aiiane | v_v |
| 02:43.26 | Kilroo | Just offhand, can anyone confirm whether it is still impossible to make -one- button that poisons -both- weapons? |
| 02:43.38 | Diao | lol |
| 02:43.53 | Kilroo | Not so much because I really care as because I'm curious whether they would have changed that for some reason. |
| 02:43.56 | Diao | I'm pretty sure it is impossible since each action requires a button press |
| 02:44.02 | Kilroo | mkay. |
| 02:44.03 | Aiiane | what diao said |
| 02:44.23 | Aiiane | you could make it so that one button, pressed twice, did it |
| 02:44.28 | Aiiane | but not one button pressed once |
| 02:45.19 | Kilroo | 's what I thought. |
| 02:45.40 | kergoth | any rogues around? i'm curious as to how beneficial quick recovery is. do the healers notice? |
| 02:46.10 | vhaarr | kergoth: The only time I notice is when healing up a rogue after he is ressed. |
| 02:46.13 | Mikk | "OMG MY HT CRIT FOR 10K!" |
| 02:46.14 | Kilroo | On a related note, anyone know what's probably the best replacement now for someone who used to use roguetracker? |
| 02:46.17 | Mikk | sure they notice =P |
| 02:46.47 | Kilroo | Sorry, Lergoth...Rogue I am, but never heard of quick recovery. |
| 02:46.52 | vhaarr | kergoth: of course, if it works on bandages, then maybe it's useful when grinding as well. |
| 02:46.53 | Kilroo | I can't type. |
| 02:46.58 | Kilroo | The K is right there. |
| 02:47.16 | kergoth | hmm, true |
| 02:47.26 | vhaarr | and I'm sure it's useful in pvp, but I don't do that much |
| 02:47.51 | Kilroo | Also, UNrelated note: Anyone tried both NQuestLog and QuestsFu and care to make comparative comments? |
| 02:49.25 | Mikk | Quick Recovery: All healing effects on you are increased by 10/20%. In addition, your finishing moves cost 40/80% less energy when they fail to hit. |
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| 02:50.23 | kaiden | Anyone know of any addons that can dock frames together? |
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| 02:50.44 | Diao | snaptogrid? |
| 02:51.33 | hyperChipmunk | bongos does it natively if you're looking for code examples |
| 02:51.51 | hyperChipmunk | snaptogrid can do a good approximation for any frame |
| 02:52.00 | Kilroo | Hmm. Visor can make one frame hold relative position to another one, I think, but last I checked you had to script to do that whether you could then move the other by mouse or not, so it's not like a magnetic docking thing. |
| 02:52.10 | Kilroo | Sounds like there are better options though. |
| 02:52.15 | WobWork | It's a possibly horrible iteration of enumerateframes and checking boundaries |
| 02:52.25 | hyperChipmunk | =x |
| 02:52.25 | WobWork | which could be... excessive at times |
| 02:52.39 | kaiden | yeah i'm trying to figure it out to be able to dock my InfiniBar frames together |
| 02:52.45 | kaiden | so i can move them all at once :p |
| 02:52.48 | WobWork | which is why snaptogrid is probably a simpler alternative |
| 02:52.49 | hyperChipmunk | EnumerateFrames can do anything!! |
| 02:53.04 | Aiiane | just... often very very inefficiently. |
| 02:53.04 | WobWork | oh if you have a ilmited number of frames, it's relatively simple |
| 02:53.18 | WobWork | actually EnumerateFrames is insanely fast |
| 02:53.28 | hyperChipmunk | yea, for what it does |
| 02:55.31 | Kilroo | By the way. |
| 02:56.12 | Kilroo | Does it make sense that before I came across Ace I would have thought that the Earth, Sea and Sky libraries sounded like at least a step in the right direction? I have vague recollections of this. |
| 02:56.28 | WobWork | Well |
| 02:56.30 | WobWork | They would have been |
| 02:56.36 | WobWork | if they were any good =\ |
| 02:56.50 | Kilroo | Possibly on the premise that at least they seemed to be trying to consolidate SOME frequently used functions. |
| 02:56.54 | WobWork | Anduin had a good name thing gonig for it though |
| 02:57.19 | Kilroo | So, if all I knew was what they were trying to do and not how well they were doing it, it would have been logical to think it sounded like a good idea? |
| 02:57.25 | WobWork | Yep |
| 02:57.27 | Kilroo | Good. |
| 02:57.30 | WobWork | until you saw the code |
| 02:57.34 | WobWork | and your eyes bled |
| 02:57.41 | Kilroo | Heh. I never looked. |
| 02:57.54 | Kilroo | I was already on Ace by the time I looked at any code. |
| 02:58.15 | kaiden | man i remember way back in beta finding out about cosmos and going nuts |
| 02:58.27 | Kilroo | I remember trying to figure out how to make this thing that showed my health and mana regen rates show my energy regen rate instead of mana... |
| 02:58.43 | hyperChipmunk | nice |
| 02:58.50 | kenlyric | Kilroo: heh. Most complicated mod ever? |
| 02:59.06 | Kilroo | One of these things that I see are around now that can tell you how long until you can use a given ability again would probably be more useful |
| 02:59.09 | Kilroo | but I was curious. |
| 02:59.20 | Kilroo | I don't recall whether I ever got it to work. |
| 03:00.07 | Kilroo | I may have discovered I needed to know what the name of something was, that wasn't what I assumed it would be, and then decided that getting the thing to work was not worth the minimal effort of finding out what it really was. |
| 03:00.35 | chutwig | arrrrrrgh |
| 03:00.40 | chutwig | 14% on mag but somebody died and missed their cube |
| 03:00.58 | kenlyric | dumbasses. Why didn't they click while dead? |
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| 03:02.46 | Aiiane | it'd be funny if you could click a cube while in SoR. |
| 03:03.06 | chutwig | improved death |
| 03:03.10 | Aiiane | yes |
| 03:03.36 | kenlyric | best death ever. |
| 03:03.40 | Aiiane | a.k.a. the most effective healing priest pvp talent to date |
| 03:04.05 | kenlyric | I use it offensively in raids. |
| 03:04.30 | Aiiane | sw:d -> spamheals -> soulstone? ;) |
| 03:04.42 | kenlyric | something like that. |
| 03:04.47 | Kilroo | Ok, I'm looking at this OmniCC addon. Anyone care to offer an opinion of it? |
| 03:04.58 | Aiiane | I use it |
| 03:04.59 | kenlyric | great for when there's no mana and no cooldowns available, and there's like 15% left on the boss. |
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| 03:05.05 | kenlyric | especially with a soulstone. |
| 03:05.06 | Aiiane | beyond that, can't say much, Kilroo :) |
| 03:05.12 | hyperChipmunk | i didn't know there was anyone who didn't use it actually |
| 03:05.31 | kenlyric | I use cooldowncount or whichever one is on the svn. |
| 03:05.56 | Kilroo | I think I used cooldowncount before. |
| 03:06.17 | hyperChipmunk | me too, but i went back |
| 03:06.23 | hyperChipmunk | i can't remember why |
| 03:06.26 | Kilroo | Apparently not the last time I was playing though. |
| 03:06.29 | hyperChipmunk | didn't work for something |
| 03:06.33 | Aiiane | i like omnicc's formatting |
| 03:07.09 | Kilroo | I think I may have stopped using CooldownCount because it didn't work with some action bar mod, and never got it back when I switched to Visor. |
| 03:07.10 | kenlyric | omnicc is nice when you want 100 options for your cooldown counts. |
| 03:07.35 | vhaarr | omnicc has options? |
| 03:07.36 | vhaarr | :p |
| 03:07.40 | Aiiane | yep |
| 03:07.43 | kenlyric | I seem to remember. |
| 03:07.43 | Aiiane | try typing /omnicc ;) |
| 03:07.46 | kenlyric | it's been a long time. |
| 03:07.51 | Aiiane | it has a lot, actually |
| 03:08.57 | ZealotOnAStick | newer full version does, anyway. |
| 03:09.04 | ZealotOnAStick | I dunno if the Basic version does. |
| 03:09.21 | Kilroo | Ok, 'nother question. TinyTip. Recommended or not, and if not, what instead? The most important thing I want to do with my tooltips is make 'em sit where I want 'em and STAY there... |
| 03:09.59 | Kilroo | I vaguely recall that being a major hassle at some point for some reason. |
| 03:10.26 | chutwig | i like tinytip |
| 03:10.55 | Kilroo | k |
| 03:11.08 | Kilroo | one vote in favor is good enough for me. |
| 03:11.11 | Aiiane | wewt... random boe epic drop off a hinterlands mob |
| 03:11.30 | Kilroo | (Mostly because after I typed that I started looking at it again and decided I'd at least try it regardless. |
| 03:12.13 | kenlyric | Kilroo: you can even have different tooltips stick to different locations. |
| 03:12.19 | Kilroo | Hooray. |
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| 03:13.33 | PHL-Chuck | [2007/04/22 23:11:55-183-x1]: PitBull-r33450\Experience\Experience.lua:149: bad argument #1 to 'unpack' (table expected, got nil) |
| 03:13.34 | PHL-Chuck | <in C code>: ? |
| 03:13.36 | PHL-Chuck | AceEvent-2.0-33238 (Ace2):1013: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:976> |
| 03:13.37 | PHL-Chuck | AceEvent-2.0-33238 (Ace2):1209: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:1150> |
| 03:13.53 | PHL-Chuck | :-) |
| 03:14.00 | anenigma | http://ace.pastey.net |
| 03:15.41 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33451 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: |
| 03:15.41 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen: |
| 03:15.41 | CIA-11 | - do a rage check on cursed players, that way they are truly a tank |
| 03:16.16 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33452 10PitBull/Experience/Experience.lua: PitBull: Experience: Bugfix. |
| 03:16.21 | vhaarr | PHL-Chuck: Fixed, but use pastey next time. |
| 03:16.40 | kaiden | hyperChipmunk, you are helping with the whippage of JJSheets on the bugs on InfiniBar right? :) |
| 03:16.48 | PHL-Chuck | last time I had a bug I posted here.. sorry |
| 03:17.05 | vhaarr | PHL-Chuck: You post the link here, obviously. |
| 03:17.09 | kaiden | think you can convince him to make it so the pet bar buttons get skinning correctly by cyCircled? currently they dont seem to be effected by anything |
| 03:17.29 | Phatrik | 05:15| (CIA-11) - do a rage check on cursed players, that way they are truly a tank |
| 03:17.33 | Phatrik | what if it's a pallytank? :( |
| 03:18.17 | vhaarr | then bigwigs plays lol.wav and then lern2heal.wav |
| 03:19.09 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:19.41 | Funkeh` | they should have 'tankform' like priests do then, that gives them a rage bar |
| 03:20.13 | hyperChipmunk | i'll let him know; working on some real performance issues for now though |
| 03:20.17 | Funkeh` | the day my tank screams at me hes out of mana he can't taunt, ill quit wow |
| 03:20.58 | Phatrik | behold Spiritual Attunement! |
| 03:21.02 | hyperChipmunk | when nax came out we explored it with 15 and had no warrior |
| 03:21.07 | hyperChipmunk | we innervated our tank |
| 03:21.23 | Aiiane | lmao |
| 03:21.25 | kenlyric | it's somewhat impossible for a pally tank to run out of mana in a raid. |
| 03:21.28 | Funkeh` | thats for that screenshot, my new forum sig |
| 03:21.31 | kenlyric | all those healers, giving him mana back. |
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| 03:23.05 | kenlyric | it's ok, grid doesn't recognize pally or druids tanks. |
| 03:23.22 | Funkeh` | here in the ace community, we don't support pally tanks(tm) |
| 03:23.25 | *** join/#wowace Eternally777 (n=eternall@166.196.131.2) |
| 03:23.33 | kenlyric | or druid tanks. |
| 03:23.40 | kenlyric | or fury warriors. |
| 03:23.40 | Funkeh` | i support druid tanks |
| 03:23.59 | kenlyric | grid believes all warriors are tanks. No exceptions. |
| 03:24.01 | chuckg | How do I escape all the character codes? |
| 03:24.06 | Aiiane | someone should write an addon for grid that checks for righteous fury/bear form and switches what category they're in |
| 03:24.08 | chuckg | It's like |333 or somethign weird. |
| 03:24.54 | Eternally777 | chuckg: You mean \333? |
| 03:24.59 | chuckg | Is that it? |
| 03:24.59 | chuckg | =D |
| 03:25.09 | Eternally777 | To escape a character code, yeah. |
| 03:25.31 | chuckg | Thanks. |
| 03:25.36 | chuckg | I knew it was half the devil. |
| 03:27.11 | Eternally777 | :-) |
| 03:27.19 | Phatrik | Aiiane : it should be automatically turned off in battlegrounds since I see so many clueless paladins running around with RF on, bashing away in AV on mobs with their singleplayer-specc (Retribution) |
| 03:27.19 | nymbia | 333? that's a hell of a character O.o |
| 03:27.50 | Aiiane | since when did you use tank-dps-healer mode in BGs anyways o.o |
| 03:28.05 | Eternally777 | I assumed '333' was a number he pulled out of his hat so he could make an example. |
| 03:28.23 | Kilroo | o? |
| 03:28.37 | Funkeh` | good night |
| 03:28.57 | nymbia | well yeah '_ |
| 03:29.00 | nymbia | err... |
| 03:29.02 | nymbia | ;) |
| 03:29.06 | Kilroo | Hm, how useful would MountMe be... |
| 03:29.16 | Kilroo | I'm thinking...um...not very, for me... |
| 03:30.31 | anenigma | Phatrik: RF is useful in bgs. It's an extra buff that can be purged away, instead of seals/blessings |
| 03:30.38 | FISKER_Q | BYE! |
| 03:31.13 | nymbia | :o |
| 03:31.44 | Phatrik | anenigma : ya true but it's also a bit amusing when you see a lowbie pally who think the +30% threat means damage :P |
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| 03:32.42 | chuckg | Hmm. |
| 03:32.47 | chuckg | Using 333 on a pattern errors. |
| 03:33.04 | nymbia | 333 is not a char |
| 03:33.16 | nymbia | chuckg: not id'd ;) |
| 03:33.20 | chuckg | Oh. |
| 03:33.36 | nymbia | but yeah a single character can only go up to 255 |
| 03:33.37 | chuckg | Remember in SimpleChat how I was trying to escape the patterns? |
| 03:33.45 | chuckg | Was that doing \333 ? |
| 03:34.05 | Eternally777 | \[000 - 255] |
| 03:34.40 | nymbia | oh umm |
| 03:34.59 | nymbia | escaping patterns.. uh.. gimme context |
| 03:35.12 | WobWork | They break out of prison and are on the lam? |
| 03:35.27 | chuckg | text = text:gsub("To", "\333To") |
| 03:35.33 | chuckg | If it's a chatline AddMessage. |
| 03:35.47 | chuckg | I want to see all the special characters. |
| 03:35.55 | nymbia | oh ummm |
| 03:35.56 | nymbia | sec |
| 03:36.20 | nymbia | \124 |
| 03:36.31 | Kilroo | Hm. |
| 03:36.41 | Kilroo | I used to use AceCallOut... |
| 03:36.51 | Kilroo | I wonder if I want something to replace it. |
| 03:37.08 | chuckg | Thank you Nymb. |
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| 03:39.22 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33453 10Aloft/ (AloftTag.lua Modules/HealthText.lua Modules/NPCTagText.lua): |
| 03:39.22 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 03:39.22 | CIA-11 | - NPCTagText and HealthText regions are now created on demand and recycled |
| 03:39.22 | CIA-11 | - Fixed HealthText modes Group/GroupDeficit |
| 03:42.03 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33454 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 03:42.03 | CIA-11 | PitBull_Auras: |
| 03:42.03 | CIA-11 | - Correct the buff size when in snap mode for debuff position calculations. |
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| 03:47.15 | Mikma | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5617/healer-combat-log/ |
| 03:47.21 | Mikma | too bad this can't be downloaded |
| 03:47.28 | Mikma | seems to be quite prettyh |
| 03:47.29 | Prophh | damn how the hell do you remove the TEXT in the REP bar for PITBULL... |
| 03:47.51 | ckknight | indoor voice. |
| 03:49.10 | ckknight | there's no current way yet. |
| 03:50.20 | nymbia | chuckg: users with special characters? or all players? |
| 03:50.29 | chuckg | All. |
| 03:50.37 | chuckg | There's nothing else modifying it either. |
| 03:51.59 | nymbia | i know i did something different with that in my local copy, lemme take a look |
| 03:52.33 | nymbia | yeah |
| 03:52.35 | nymbia | ["|r ([^%s]+) whispers:"] = "|r from %1:", |
| 03:53.18 | chuckg | Odd. |
| 03:53.28 | nymbia | dunno why i have those color resets in there... |
| 03:53.39 | chuckg | When I escape the To. |
| 03:53.44 | chuckg | I get a pipe, | in front of it. |
| 03:53.45 | chuckg | It's weird. |
| 03:53.55 | chuckg | But none of the color code shows. |
| 03:54.11 | nymbia | what gsub are you using? |
| 03:54.21 | chuckg | It's right there in the pastey. |
| 03:54.30 | chuckg | text = string.gsub(text, k, v) |
| 03:56.50 | nymbia | no i mean |
| 03:56.54 | nymbia | to see the escapes |
| 03:57.06 | chuckg | Oh. |
| 03:57.08 | chuckg | I tried ... |
| 03:57.33 | *** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WAU 1.7-final http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. | WAU is looking for development help(C#), ping Kaelten if interested. | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization |
| 03:57.39 | chuckg | ["To%s"] = "\124To " |
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| 04:07.17 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33455 10Aloft/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:07.17 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 04:07.17 | CIA-11 | - Moved highlight to sit underneath HealthBar options |
| 04:07.17 | CIA-11 | - Made GuildText text regions create-on-demand |
| 04:07.17 | CIA-11 | - Fixed positioning changes not taking effect immediately on create-on-demand frames |
| 04:07.25 | nymbia | HEY |
| 04:07.28 | nymbia | is anyone here |
| 04:07.32 | Killmore | yo |
| 04:07.37 | nymbia | experiencing the thing where auctioneer wont load |
| 04:07.45 | nymbia | or whatever other non-ace addons |
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| 04:08.03 | Sole | hey guys |
| 04:08.12 | nymbia | sup sole |
| 04:08.30 | Sole | how would I do a /who on guildless people only |
| 04:08.37 | Sole | Ive tried /who g-"" and /who g-nil |
| 04:08.49 | Sole | g-"" returns just guilded randoms |
| 04:09.01 | nymbia | i'd think that g-"" would be it. hm |
| 04:09.11 | Sole | nope |
| 04:09.28 | Sole | I think what WoW does is it takes the quotation and does a string search for all guild names with it |
| 04:09.35 | nymbia | yeah |
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| 04:10.50 | Depherios | please don't solve it |
| 04:11.03 | Depherios | I was a guildless 70 priest for 2 days, before I couldn't stand it anymore |
| 04:11.10 | nymbia | haha |
| 04:12.09 | Sole | haha |
| 04:12.17 | Sole | its only for my guild leader :) |
| 04:12.30 | Depherios | yeah! see! |
| 04:12.35 | Depherios | lol] |
| 04:12.48 | Sole | he wont mass invite people though |
| 04:12.55 | ag` | Depends, my guild dissolved so I'm now a guildless priest too, but most guilds are just looking for healbots and I'm not, so... |
| 04:13.03 | Sole | we've got our 30 raiders |
| 04:13.14 | Sole | lol my guild has more shadow priests than holy priests o_O |
| 04:13.21 | Sole | some of em raid too |
| 04:13.27 | nymbia | we have 0 holy priests |
| 04:13.29 | Depherios | most guilds have more shadowpriests than holy priests |
| 04:13.30 | Depherios | lol |
| 04:13.33 | nymbia | 1 resto druid |
| 04:13.34 | Sole | we have 2 holy priests |
| 04:13.37 | nymbia | our paladins heal. |
| 04:14.07 | ag` | yep, so it's kinda hard for me now to find a place, only healers are needed |
| 04:14.16 | croi | that's bullshit |
| 04:14.25 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33456 10Aloft/CoreModules/RaidIcon.lua: Aloft: Shifted RaidIcon to OVERLAY DrawLayer so that its layering is consistent whether backdrop frames exist or not |
| 04:14.26 | croi | shadow priests are so ridiculously awesome for raids |
| 04:14.42 | croi | you just gotta be a good shadow priest - shouldn't be hard to get into a guid |
| 04:15.04 | croi | unless you're like discipline -- then lol good luck :) |
| 04:15.28 | Killmore | can anyone show me a screenshot of what Aloft looks like ? |
| 04:15.37 | nymbia | imp ds is important imo |
| 04:15.39 | Depherios | aloft looks like however you want it to :D |
| 04:15.40 | ag` | It's mostly a gear thing, respeccing is cheap :) |
| 04:16.01 | Depherios | I'm standing around in shatt though, I'll nab a screen of my fugly ones. |
| 04:16.26 | croi | nym, i mean to whom is it important? for warlocks its like 18 more dmg for mages its like 20-24 more dmg nothing game breaking |
| 04:16.47 | ag` | nn |
| 04:16.55 | Aiiane | shadow priest offers more to a raid than a priest with imp DS does over another healing class |
| 04:17.12 | croi | ^ troof |
| 04:17.31 | Aiiane | if i had a choice of bringing a shadowpriest + nonpriest healer, or ds-priest and non-priest dps, i'd bring the former |
| 04:18.04 | Aiiane | even moreso if there are warlocks in the raid |
| 04:18.15 | croi | depending on the gear, a shadow priest can be on par if not better than warlocks/mages on some if not all the fights |
| 04:18.21 | Aiiane | 10-15% more damage from warlocks > 20-25 more +dmg |
| 04:18.25 | Depherios | Shamans, Druids, and Paladins all stack too... Priests don't... so you only need one healing and one shadowpriest |
| 04:18.44 | Aiiane | well |
| 04:18.47 | Aiiane | shadowpriests stack |
| 04:18.48 | Depherios | but more shadowpriests bring more than more holy priests |
| 04:18.53 | Depherios | yeah, each party |
| 04:18.58 | Aiiane | even same party |
| 04:19.02 | Aiiane | double the mana regen |
| 04:19.07 | Depherios | lol, 3 shadowpriests = infinite mana |
| 04:19.17 | Aiiane | 2 shadowpriests + 3 boomkins = lol |
| 04:19.18 | Depherios | we were doing it in MC when VT first came out |
| 04:19.31 | Depherios | moonkin aura doesn't stack T_T |
| 04:19.45 | Aiiane | no but the boomkins do nice dps all the same :P |
| 04:19.47 | Depherios | XD |
| 04:19.50 | Aiiane | they just go oom fast :D |
| 04:19.58 | Aiiane | but thats why you have the SPs ;) |
| 04:19.58 | Depherios | that's why they come with innervate |
| 04:20.14 | Aiiane | actually |
| 04:20.24 | Aiiane | 2 SPs, warlock, boomkin, ele shaman |
| 04:20.29 | Aiiane | now you're talking |
| 04:20.51 | Aiiane | weaving + CoS + moonkin + wrath |
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| 04:21.01 | Sole | damn I cant figure this out :( |
| 04:21.31 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd really like to have a Malediction lock or two in our raids. |
| 04:21.43 | ZealotOnAStick | It's just not going to be me, and I think all of our locks have the same attitude. |
| 04:22.06 | Arrowmaster | rolf same |
| 04:22.48 | chutwig | well |
| 04:22.51 | Arrowmaster | ive got 0/3 malediction, 0/5 shadow embrace, 0/3 improved imp, and 0/2, improved healthstone |
| 04:23.09 | chutwig | whenever we have problems with a boss, i don't think to myself |
| 04:23.09 | chutwig | "gosh, this would all have gone perfectly if i had malediction" |
| 04:23.39 | croi | dnt uses 2 malediction locks |
| 04:23.45 | croi | 3/3 malediction |
| 04:23.55 | Arrowmaster | but ive gotten 1st in damage on gruul for both our kills, and thats while being in the tank group with 0 outside buffs |
| 04:24.18 | chutwig | i get top caster damage on gruul without benefit of a shadow priest or anything like that |
| 04:24.27 | chutwig | lose to melee because they get windfury and all sorts of other happy stuff |
| 04:25.04 | Aiiane | when i'm shadow spec i'm typically in the top 3 spots on dps |
| 04:25.05 | Arrowmaster | most the other casters get the shadow priests/elemental shamans, i get the tank group |
| 04:25.05 | Roartindon | hmm.. last gruul I pulled 950dps |
| 04:25.08 | Roartindon | but that's only because he bugged |
| 04:25.13 | Roartindon | and didn't ground slam |
| 04:25.18 | chutwig | yeah, i usually sit in tank group |
| 04:25.52 | chutwig | i'm all sorts of annoyed because we wiped to mag at 14% |
| 04:25.57 | Sole | Aiiane: Your rogues must be pretty bad or have bad gear :p |
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| 04:26.05 | chutwig | he's dead tomorrow but even so it would have been grand to put that under our belt tonight |
| 04:26.11 | Arrowmaster | but im fucking good like in raids anyway with 3/3 shadoweave, and affliction spec, DP till imp runs out then LT and be at full health in 5-10 seconds |
| 04:26.15 | Arrowmaster | unlimited mana |
| 04:26.26 | chutwig | how much +shadow are you running with |
| 04:26.38 | croi | DP till imp runs out then LT |
| 04:26.39 | croi | lol |
| 04:26.43 | Arrowmaster | 1068 now |
| 04:26.46 | croi | what that's like what? 1 tap? |
| 04:26.51 | chutwig | i drain the imp dry in 2 pacts |
| 04:26.55 | croi | same |
| 04:26.56 | chutwig | less than that |
| 04:26.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah same |
| 04:26.58 | kebinusan | heh, yeah Iw as going to say |
| 04:27.05 | chutwig | 1 pact and like 60% of the imp's mana is gone |
| 04:27.20 | croi | do you get your imp kings + ints before you pull ^_^ |
| 04:27.23 | croi | that's what i do |
| 04:27.24 | kebinusan | I dunno, Im weird though I actually prefer raiding destruction on my lock |
| 04:27.31 | chutwig | i don't like destro |
| 04:27.38 | Arrowmaster | i love affliction |
| 04:27.39 | chutwig | my mindset is that if you wanted to do DD, you probably should've rolled a mage |
| 04:27.41 | Arrowmaster | just hate pvp with it |
| 04:27.58 | kebinusan | Eh, I have a warlock no need to roll a mage |
| 04:28.12 | chutwig | i have fun on my warlock doing some things, and i have fun on my mage doing other things |
| 04:28.13 | croi | don't be fooled with big numbers |
| 04:28.14 | kebinusan | shadowfury is nice to have in 5mans/heroics and my dps is comparable |
| 04:28.20 | Arrowmaster | i tried out 0/21/40 on the test server |
| 04:28.21 | croi | shadowbolt vs dots -> dots alwayswin |
| 04:28.28 | Sole | dont like pvp with affliction? |
| 04:28.29 | chutwig | i just hate destro's total lack of mana efficiency |
| 04:28.35 | chutwig | in a raid environment you get mage water to make up for it |
| 04:28.36 | Roartindon | until you fight doomwalker and die from dots aggro after overrun |
| 04:28.37 | Sole | one of my 2v2 partners is an afflic lock :) |
| 04:28.41 | chutwig | but by yourself when you're grinding |
| 04:28.47 | kebinusan | chutwig: you get decent mana efficiency with soul leech |
| 04:28.53 | Arrowmaster | it was fun hitting some shaman with a instant 5455 shadowbolt crit |
| 04:28.54 | Neebler | in a raid destruction > dots |
| 04:28.56 | chutwig | i don't even remember the last time i've had to drink or eat when grinding |
| 04:28.56 | Depherios | Ugh... should've exited wow and converted my screenshot to a jpg before uploading to CT screens... |
| 04:29.07 | Neebler | 5000 consistant incinerate crits |
| 04:29.09 | Depherios | My resolution is too big to ask of them to convert... |
| 04:29.25 | chutwig | and i usually chain pull mobs until i run out of mana, then pact up, tap twice, keep going |
| 04:29.34 | croi | <Neebler> in a raid destruction > dots \ no wa |
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| 04:29.45 | chutwig | i like my dots |
| 04:29.50 | chutwig | and shadow embrace is nice to have |
| 04:29.57 | croi | we have debuff problems |
| 04:29.58 | chutwig | 5% makes a difference when you're getting hit by maulgar or mag |
| 04:31.20 | croi | so none of our locks take that |
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| 04:31.20 | chutwig | i've been 44/17 for like a month now |
| 04:31.20 | chutwig | and my only complaint is not having shadowburn |
| 04:31.20 | croi | w/ 3sec sb? |
| 04:31.20 | chutwig | yeah |
| 04:31.20 | Arrowmaster | 42/0/19 for me |
| 04:31.20 | croi | that spec is good if you're focused on pvp + pve |
| 04:31.20 | chutwig | notwithstanding all the theorycrafting, i only use SB in raids when nightfall procs |
| 04:31.21 | croi | you incinerate? |
| 04:31.21 | chutwig | i drain life |
| 04:31.22 | Arrowmaster | eww |
| 04:31.35 | croi | what spec are you chut? |
| 04:31.40 | chutwig | croi: 44/17/0 |
| 04:31.43 | croi | arrowmaster im the same spec |
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| 04:31.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah i love 42/0/19 |
| 04:32.01 | croi | you drain life? why? |
| 04:32.04 | Arrowmaster | except for pvp |
| 04:32.17 | croi | just curious what your intention is? because if it's dps, you're not going to get it using that |
| 04:32.24 | chutwig | everyone says that |
| 04:32.29 | chutwig | and yet somehow i wind up at the top of the meters anyway |
| 04:32.33 | Kirkburn|afk | The Simpsons MMO! http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=simpwowim2.jpg |
| 04:32.36 | croi | because how much can dl relaly get? |
| 04:32.48 | Depherios | Aloft: http://ctscreens.net/6389 |
| 04:32.54 | chutwig | on gruul my DL typically ticks for 650+ |
| 04:33.01 | croi | over a period of? |
| 04:33.05 | Arrowmaster | ive been so disappointed with soul siphon |
| 04:33.07 | chutwig | 650 per second |
| 04:33.13 | croi | ok |
| 04:33.15 | chutwig | that's not including my dots |
| 04:33.28 | croi | 650ps for 5sec |
| 04:33.32 | croi | i mean do the math and do the sb math |
| 04:33.36 | chutwig | like i said |
| 04:33.40 | chutwig | i know what the theorycrafting says |
| 04:33.50 | croi | actually |
| 04:33.52 | chutwig | but i have success with this method, and i reduce healer stress on me, so i do it |
| 04:34.00 | croi | you might do more dps because |
| 04:34.01 | Arrowmaster | my shadowbolt is 650 dps without any debuffs on the mob |
| 04:34.02 | croi | you don't have bane |
| 04:34.18 | gnorlish | what the hell pel |
| 04:34.27 | Arrowmaster | i have to yell at our healers for healing me when i lifetap |
| 04:34.27 | chutwig | go to hell gnorlish |
| 04:34.33 | vhaarr | Kirkburn: give! |
| 04:34.38 | gnorlish | i knew you were still in here somehow |
| 04:35.12 | Arrowmaster | gota go solo demitius in netherstorm for rogue friend now |
| 04:35.13 | croi | jfc depherios what monitor do you play on? |
| 04:35.25 | Arrowmaster | and socrethar |
| 04:35.41 | Kirkburn | vhaarr, watch the latest Simpsons episode :D |
| 04:36.28 | Kirkburn | I still haven't got past 04:19 cause of telling everyone about it |
| 04:36.32 | vhaarr | :o |
| 04:36.37 | ckknight | Kirkburn: gief? |
| 04:36.50 | Kirkburn | I can only suggest http://www.eztvefnet.org/ |
| 04:37.08 | ckknight | <3 eztv |
| 04:37.16 | Kirkburn | Well, that's not true, I can suggest many things, not all of which are nice, but that site is awesome :P |
| 04:37.46 | chuckg | Don't use eztv if you live in the uS> |
| 04:37.58 | chuckg | NBC monitors the torrents and sends out letters every few months. |
| 04:38.29 | Guillotine | just buy a tv tuner card for your computer |
| 04:38.32 | Guillotine | its like 30 bucks |
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| 04:38.49 | ZealotOnAStick | sure, use EZTV. |
| 04:38.51 | Depherios | I have one, I'm too lazy to put it in and install drivers and run a cable to it... |
| 04:38.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Just don't torrent ANYTHING without PeerGuardian2. |
| 04:39.13 | chuckg | I just use a private tracker. |
| 04:39.16 | chuckg | And save myself the hastle. |
| 04:39.21 | vhaarr | bitme ftw |
| 04:39.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Even two of my private trackers suggest PG2. |
| 04:39.35 | vhaarr | Time to navigate bitmetv and download .torrent: 30sec. |
| 04:39.43 | vhaarr | Time to download episode: 3min. |
| 04:39.46 | vhaarr | \o/ |
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| 04:42.25 | Kirkburn | vhaarr, wow |
| 04:43.26 | CIA-11 | 03damjau * r33457 10WhoDrop/: WhoDrop - sorry, fix external miss.. |
| 04:43.26 | ckknight | vhaarr: bitme? |
| 04:43.36 | WobWor1 | what'd I miss? |
| 04:43.39 | ckknight | link? |
| 04:43.44 | ckknight | WobWor1: Simpsons MMO |
| 04:43.48 | WobWor1 | ah |
| 04:45.21 | Kirkburn | WobWor1, http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=simpwowim2.jpg |
| 04:50.07 | Kirkburn | Wow, PG2 is really easy to use |
| 04:50.20 | Kirkburn | I thought I'd have to spend a while setting stuff up |
| 04:51.05 | Kirkburn | Slightly odd that it blocks HTTP by default though |
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| 04:54.16 | art3mis | whats peerguardian? |
| 04:54.25 | Aiiane | google it. |
| 04:54.28 | Mikk | vhaar: bitme? o.O |
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| 04:54.31 | art3mis | i just use my private trackers to find names and releases of stuff to leech from usenet ;P |
| 04:54.41 | Aiiane | but to save you the time, it blocks IPs that fall into certain known categories |
| 04:54.53 | art3mis | or i could just ask here and get a succinct description of what it is |
| 04:55.00 | art3mis | ahh |
| 04:55.08 | Kirkburn | e.g. RIAA IPs |
| 04:55.08 | art3mis | so another piece of useless software ;P |
| 04:55.24 | art3mis | "don't share and it doesnt matter" ;) |
| 04:55.32 | art3mis | public torrents are for the weak anyways |
| 04:55.32 | Kirkburn | Bit hard with BT |
| 04:55.54 | art3mis | no its not you set yer max outbound to 0 |
| 04:56.00 | art3mis | and connections to 0 |
| 04:56.08 | art3mis | you leech it doesnt share |
| 05:03.35 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r33458 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (CombatSpell.lua FuBar_CorkFu.toc Repairs.lua Shucks.lua): |
| 05:03.35 | CIA-11 | FuBar_CorkFu |
| 05:03.35 | CIA-11 | - Adding in-combat spell |
| 05:03.35 | CIA-11 | - Adding clam shucker |
| 05:03.35 | CIA-11 | - Durability module should actually use the setting now |
| 05:04.46 | Kirkburn | Yay for Tekkub :P |
| 05:04.56 | Tekkub | ^^ |
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| 05:08.22 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33459 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make :PopulateUnitFrame and :ClearUnitFrame lazy. Should make things much more efficient. |
| 05:08.34 | ckknight | nymbia, vhaarr: ^--- |
| 05:09.20 | vhaarr | nice |
| 05:10.48 | nymbia | neat :D |
| 05:10.51 | nymbia | thanks |
| 05:13.48 | ckknight | took a while getting the kinks out |
| 05:13.52 | ckknight | but it works pretty nicely now |
| 05:13.56 | ckknight | ...in theory |
| 05:14.26 | Megalon | so it's like comunism? :P |
| 05:15.57 | ckknight | more similar to your mom |
| 05:16.01 | ckknight | nice until you actually try it out |
| 05:16.36 | Megalon | well, you paid for her |
| 05:16.43 | Megalon | that's the only thing that counts for me |
| 05:17.23 | ckknight | touché |
| 05:17.41 | ckknight | nymbia: switching to raid is much faster now, even with the raid stuff |
| 05:17.44 | vhaarr | enabling raid configuration mode freezes wow for 3-4 seconds |
| 05:17.55 | vhaarr | I don't remember it taking this long previously |
| 05:18.19 | ckknight | only freezes for like a quarter second for me now |
| 05:19.36 | nymbia | ckknight: oh i'm sure |
| 05:19.36 | nymbia | one draw instead of 3 draws and 6 deletes |
| 05:19.36 | ckknight | try it out, though |
| 05:19.36 | vhaarr | pitbull has 2 minutes of CPU time here, and I've been logged in for like 7 |
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| 05:19.55 | vhaarr | fooling around with config |
| 05:29.31 | vhaarr | oh well, it works though :) |
| 05:29.31 | ckknight | oh, btw, I'm contemplating making focus a wacky unit |
| 05:29.31 | ckknight | due to Blizzard's incompetency |
| 05:29.32 | ckknight | thoughts? |
| 05:29.32 | vhaarr | I think the focus unit should work, I don't /focus someone so that I can have a wrong idea of their current state of being. |
| 05:29.32 | ckknight | it doesn't work correctly |
| 05:29.32 | ckknight | due to Blizzard not firing events consistently |
| 05:29.32 | nymbia | i havent had many problems with focus not updating |
| 05:29.32 | vhaarr | I know |
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| 05:29.32 | vhaarr | so I'm saying I think you should do what's necessary to get it working |
| 05:29.32 | nymbia | but what i mostly care about is spellcast and aura events on my focus, and it's their health and mana that's screwy |
| 05:29.32 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33460 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make focus updated with the rest of the wacky units, as Blizzard's events are not always the most consistent. |
| 05:29.33 | ckknight | alright, gonna watch the simpsons |
| 05:37.33 | ckknight | lol, Laggrimar |
| 05:52.45 | Gngsk | is it possible to change the alpha of healthbar backgrounds w/pitbull? |
| 05:55.06 | ckknight | no |
| 05:55.28 | ckknight | in order to support reverse direction :-P |
| 05:55.49 | ckknight | wonder if I could somehow implore Slouken to give us proper reverse statusbars... |
| 05:56.38 | Gngsk | meh, a minor annoyance |
| 05:59.13 | WobWork | Kaelten: ping |
| 05:59.22 | WobWork | Kaelten: Can you get this fucker off wowi-lounge if you're around? |
| 06:02.49 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33461 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 06:02.49 | CIA-11 | PitBull: |
| 06:02.49 | CIA-11 | - Fix bug preventing default-disabled groups from staying shown after a reload. |
| 06:06.49 | ckknight | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=97772966&postId=976146364&sid=1#0 |
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| 06:11.09 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r33462 10FuBar_GarbageFu/GarbageFu_Vendor.lua: FuBar_GarbageFu - Added sellfish support |
| 06:12.58 | Arrowmaster | lol i mentioned in another channel on a different network that the current bid on the old goatse domain is up to $1e+12 and had somebody ask me for the url so he could put in a legit $10k bid |
| 06:13.05 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33463 10Aloft/CoreModules/SpellIcon.lua: Aloft: SpellIcon - simplified code, and hopefully fixed possible disappearing icon at the same time |
| 06:13.47 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r33464 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/ (Ikiss.lua Murmur.lua Pandemonius.lua): |
| 06:13.47 | CIA-11 | LittleWigs: |
| 06:13.47 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:15.59 | kebinusan | is there a list somewhere of the different fields you can use for custom text in pitbull, like hp, percent, etc |
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| 06:17.17 | dotted | kebinusan isnt that dogtags? |
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| 06:19.30 | Heri1 | kebinusan: if you're familiar with any sort of programming, opening up dogtag's file with notepad might help you find the inforamation you need |
| 06:20.18 | ckknight | kebinusan: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0 |
| 06:21.58 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33465 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull - Layout-ABF - add link to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0 in usage statements. |
| 06:23.20 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33466 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add a big link near the top of the lua |
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| 06:26.29 | Heri1 | >.> |
| 06:27.27 | Heri1 | I searched the wiki for "dogtag" and it didn't show that =( |
| 06:27.41 | vhaarr | Yeah, the google search is really, really bad. |
| 06:27.45 | vhaarr | It's the same for wowwiki. |
| 06:27.51 | Heri1 | sigh |
| 06:29.18 | nevcairiel | g'morning |
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| 06:30.29 | Elkano | Heri1, looking for that one? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0 |
| 06:30.43 | nevcairiel | Hrm, WAU looking for help. I just recently started to work with C# for a university project |
| 06:30.57 | Heri1 | I've already found that =P |
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| 06:39.36 | ckknight | btw, Cart-Waypoints is way off now for figuring out velocithy |
| 06:39.39 | ckknight | velocity* |
| 06:41.24 | Elkano | ckknight, sure that alpha doesn't work with right-to-left statusbars? I think in EBBs it's working |
| 06:41.58 | Depherios | if they don't use an actual bar it works great.. i.e. discord unit frames |
| 06:42.14 | Depherios | which is, AFAIK, just regular frames being resized instead of statusbars |
| 06:42.22 | ckknight | well, it'd be textures, Depherios |
| 06:42.29 | ckknight | and that calculation is complex |
| 06:42.33 | ckknight | and too unwieldy in lua |
| 06:43.19 | ckknight | Elkano: how do you do it, with normal textures? |
| 06:43.22 | Depherios | I was just saying that's how THEY do it. |
| 06:43.24 | nevcairiel | Hrm, i still dont really get, why it is impossible to fix a simple bug in WAU and just release a minor update |
| 06:43.27 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33467 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: |
| 06:43.27 | CIA-11 | PitBull - Layout-ABF: |
| 06:43.27 | CIA-11 | - Portrait now uses the new height calculation method, should always be the same height as health and mana bars again. |
| 06:43.56 | Andune | has anyone figured out what combination of mods or settings makes cartographer jump out to the world map in instances after a few (variable) number of seconds? |
| 06:44.14 | ckknight | or with actual statusbars? |
| 06:44.22 | Andune | i've asked and few people have said they had the same problem, but never seen a solution.. |
| 06:44.41 | nevcairiel | ckknight: one thing i noticed on the weekend, when the worldmap is open, the minimap icons are "stuck", they keep following you .. they do reset and work fine when worldmap closes, tho. |
| 06:44.53 | ckknight | yea, can't really help that |
| 06:45.02 | Elkano | ck, yes |
| 06:45.14 | nymbia | Andune: other addons doing things they shouldnt |
| 06:45.32 | Elkano | ck: SetTexture and SetVertexColor |
| 06:46.01 | ckknight | just textures? |
| 06:46.02 | Scrapy | !Stopthespam it's not update... he exist another similar addon ? |
| 06:46.37 | Andune | nymbia: yeah, just wish I knew which one was doing it. :/ Guess I'll go sit next to an instance someday and start flipping 'em on and off till I find the culprit |
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| 06:47.13 | Elkano | ckknight: yes, on texture at BACKGROUND layer and one width adjusted at ARTWORK layer |
| 06:48.01 | ckknight | ick |
| 06:48.13 | ckknight | I want real statusbars. |
| 06:48.39 | kebinusan | ah cool thanks, didnt know what dogtags was |
| 06:49.25 | Elkano | ckknight, well, I do, too... but I was forced to this hack :/ |
| 06:53.10 | Elkano | ckknight, you still didn't fix Dewdrop ^^ |
| 06:53.26 | ckknight | what's broken? |
| 06:54.04 | Elkano | look at lines 2011/2013 and at lines 2016/2017 |
| 06:56.17 | Elkano | also using the mouse wheel doesn't hide the tooltip so you don't see the values if the tooltip is mouseanchored :/ |
| 06:57.32 | Kirkburn | Rawr: http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot042307074501my1.jpg |
| 06:58.00 | Kirkburn | Nice additions to Pitbull in the last few hours btw, great to be able to see aura locations and the XP and rep bars may be useful |
| 06:58.16 | Kirkburn | Can't decide whether to use them atm |
| 06:58.47 | Elkano | Kirkburn, nice bartexture :) which one is it? |
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| 06:59.16 | nevcairiel | Hm, i am still stuck on BantoBar .. and i still love it ;) |
| 06:59.36 | Kirkburn | Er, I can't remember |
| 07:00.04 | Roartindon | Elkano: Looks like charcoal |
| 07:00.14 | kergoth | i get in moods, when it comes to most things.. statusbar textures is one of them.. lately i'm back on banto |
| 07:00.20 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I think it's charcoal |
| 07:00.30 | Elkano | hmmm... |
| 07:00.56 | Elkano | btw: how is integration of SharedMediaLib into ClearFont coming along? ;) |
| 07:01.11 | Kirkburn | Sorry, did someone say something? |
| 07:01.17 | Kirkburn | I can't hear anything |
| 07:01.19 | Elkano | :P |
| 07:01.23 | Kirkburn | Must have been the wind |
| 07:01.28 | Roartindon | Elkano: ClearFont2 exports some fonts |
| 07:01.59 | Kirkburn | This is true actually, ZOAS added that |
| 07:02.19 | Kirkburn | All default ClearFont2 fonts are available to SML |
| 07:02.36 | Roartindon | I was going to update ClearFont2 code to support font packs inherently |
| 07:02.43 | Kirkburn | Fine by me |
| 07:02.45 | Roartindon | ZOAS pasted in that hacky code which I posted on the forums :) |
| 07:02.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Yep. |
| 07:03.01 | Kirkburn | I say it enough, but anyone is allowed to contrib to CF2, I don't mind |
| 07:03.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd like to see the inverse work, have CF2 pick up on SML registered fonts. |
| 07:03.21 | Kirkburn | (well, as long as they tell me at some point :P) |
| 07:04.51 | Elkano | \o/ "Lurky's Egg" is finaly on wowhead :) |
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| 07:05.38 | kebinusan | Lurky? |
| 07:05.45 | Punkie` | murloc pet |
| 07:05.52 | kebinusan | ah |
| 07:05.59 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 07:08.48 | CIA-11 | 03athou * r33468 10Taggle/Taggle.lua: |
| 07:08.48 | CIA-11 | Taggle: |
| 07:08.48 | CIA-11 | - May fix some compatibility issues |
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| 07:12.12 | Elkano | Hiho Nargiddley :) |
| 07:13.13 | nymbia | ckknight: ping |
| 07:13.24 | Elkano | I thought a bit about adding offline bank and alt support into Baggins: why not simply put a layer between Baggins and the API calls that will redirect the calls to stored data if needed |
| 07:13.32 | ckknight | nymbia: pong |
| 07:13.50 | Elkano | ckknight, see what I ment wrt Dewdrop? |
| 07:14.28 | nymbia | ckknight: focus is doing the super-fast moving portrait thing. i was gonna just delete its entry in the IsWackyUnit table so it'd return true, but i didnt know if that would break anything else |
| 07:14.41 | CIA-11 | 03jayrox * r33469 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua Localization.lua): FuBar_VampwatchFu: Fixed a localization typo, added the ability to filter overhealing on vampiric embrace last fight and over-all totals. this change DOES NOT affect highest tick or average tick stats. |
| 07:14.50 | ckknight | nymbia: um... try it *thumbs up* |
| 07:14.58 | nymbia | lol k |
| 07:15.36 | ckknight | no, Elkano |
| 07:15.53 | ckknight | oh |
| 07:15.54 | ckknight | nvm |
| 07:15.55 | ckknight | yesy |
| 07:16.09 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33470 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 07:16.09 | CIA-11 | PitBull: |
| 07:16.09 | CIA-11 | - focus now updated with the wacky units, delete it's special treatment in .IsWackyUnit |
| 07:16.09 | Elkano | well, you access min and max before setting them resulting in using the global function instead of the local vars |
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| 07:16.31 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33471 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - fix bug in the mousewheel code |
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| 07:18.19 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33472 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 07:18.19 | CIA-11 | PitBull: |
| 07:18.19 | CIA-11 | - delete focus from .IsWackyGroup too |
| 07:19.07 | CIA-11 | 03jerry * r33473 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: fixed deDE locale and Incinerate icon |
| 07:19.20 | kergoth | hmm, is the timing of murmur's sonic boom not reliable? curious why there's no timer bar for his cast of it in littlewigs |
| 07:19.43 | nevcairiel | Ive never really cared about timing it |
| 07:19.46 | nevcairiel | just run out when he casts |
| 07:19.52 | nevcairiel | its really long enough cast :P |
| 07:20.08 | kergoth | i dunno, i start running as soon as i see the warning and still dont always make it :| |
| 07:20.24 | nevcairiel | i generally run when i see the stuff on the ground |
| 07:20.28 | kergoth | part of it is i need to run out of the ring when i'm the bomb |
| 07:20.36 | kergoth | since if i blow i wont be able to run the rest of the way out |
| 07:20.40 | kergoth | and then get nailed by the boom too |
| 07:20.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:22.21 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r33474 10Fence/modules/Fence_Browse.lua: Fence - if no buyout price is set use current bid for "per item" calculation |
| 07:23.57 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r33475 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots.lua: GridStatusHots - make sure name is a string when we update so it won't bug when members leave |
| 07:25.45 | Kirkburn | nymbia, naughty naughty "delete it's special treatment" |
| 07:25.59 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r33476 10Mendeleev/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:25.59 | CIA-11 | Mendeleev: |
| 07:25.59 | CIA-11 | - added support for AtlasLootTooltip |
| 07:25.59 | CIA-11 | - added option to hide "used in" tree |
| 07:26.01 | Kirkburn | Apostrophes ftl :) |
| 07:26.33 | nymbia | bleh |
| 07:26.45 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 07:28.05 | Kirkburn | Question: OSX - anti-virus or no? |
| 07:28.13 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r33477 10PeriodicTable/Tradeskills/PTTradeskillsEmbed.lua: PeriodicTable - fixed a bug with updating tradeskill data (does anyone still use this?) |
| 07:28.17 | Roartindon | kirkburn: I don't bother |
| 07:28.22 | Roartindon | I'm probably naïve |
| 07:28.26 | Heri1 | eh |
| 07:28.37 | Heri1 | macs scare the shit out of me |
| 07:29.04 | Heri1 | "user-friendly" shouldn't be impossible to use :O |
| 07:29.22 | kergoth | someone needs to add an option to mendy to let you view the detailed info about the recipes something is used in, for a given profession |
| 07:29.22 | Kirkburn | Would you recommend anti-virus to a non-computery person on OSX? |
| 07:29.34 | nymbia | i've never used antivirus stuff on my macs |
| 07:29.36 | kergoth | i.e. "Show individual recipes for: Jewelcrafting" |
| 07:29.45 | Kirkburn | I keep seeing OSX users who are adamant it doesn't need it /at all/ |
| 07:30.07 | Heri1 | need an option in mendy to not show the source of heroic badges :O |
| 07:30.13 | Kirkburn | (Advanced users notwithstanding) |
| 07:30.18 | kergoth | 9hehe |
| 07:30.22 | kergoth | s/^9// |
| 07:30.43 | Heri1 | I'd get whatever is supposed to be good :O |
| 07:31.12 | Kirkburn | Okay, another question: would you describe OSX as "revolutionary"? |
| 07:31.13 | RLD_osx | Kirkburn get clamav for mac. its not active scanning like the commercial crap but its pretty good. and get littlesnicth to block unwanted outgoing traffic. |
| 07:31.14 | Heri1 | I mean if people keep not protecting themselves they're eventually going to get their shit kicked in |
| 07:31.50 | nymbia | well that's the problem |
| 07:31.58 | Kirkburn | I don't use OSX, I'm just researching :) I was looking around earlier and heard of that program - seems to be the most popular OSX anti-virus? |
| 07:32.04 | nymbia | if you did get a mac virus |
| 07:32.18 | nymbia | your antivirus software probably wouldnt know it |
| 07:32.29 | RLD_osx | if, but nothing is impossible. |
| 07:32.31 | nymbia | not like those guys get much practice tracking em down |
| 07:32.54 | Kirkburn | lol, true |
| 07:33.27 | CIA-11 | 03jerry * r33478 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: fix french locale for SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0 |
| 07:34.49 | Heri1 | why not get norton |
| 07:34.59 | Heri1 | I mean it's not like osx is ass backwards |
| 07:35.01 | RLD_osx | ewwwwww |
| 07:35.16 | RLD_osx | bloated garbage |
| 07:35.26 | Mikk | no, it's xso |
| 07:35.28 | Heri1 | it's still a computer and all of the heuristics and such are going to be the same basic concept |
| 07:35.29 | RLD_osx | same with mcaffee |
| 07:35.38 | mitch0 | where is AceOptions implemented? |
| 07:35.48 | kergoth | aceoptions is a data format. |
| 07:35.57 | mitch0 | ah |
| 07:36.03 | kergoth | for which there are multiple interfaces, including aceconsole, waterfalllib, and dewdroplib |
| 07:36.19 | mitch0 | so, where is the logic implemented? specifically, I'm interested in how the getter/setter methods of the handler are called |
| 07:36.31 | kergoth | again, there are 3 different interfaces |
| 07:36.35 | kergoth | 3 different libraries that use the format |
| 07:36.37 | SunTiger | the logic is not set anywhere in specific |
| 07:36.39 | kergoth | pick one and read its code |
| 07:36.45 | ckknight | mitch0: Dewdrop, Waterfall, AceConsole |
| 07:36.49 | SunTiger | the aceoption table is a convention |
| 07:36.59 | mitch0 | like, if it's possible to get called as :get(value) instead of .get(value) [so that I get self "passed" along] |
| 07:37.12 | SunTiger | look at an aceoption table like html |
| 07:37.20 | Nargiddley | give it the name of the method |
| 07:37.24 | SunTiger | and any browser that is worth a damn should be able to read it. |
| 07:37.35 | Nargiddley | not the method itself, and it'll be called like that with handler as the object |
| 07:37.38 | SunTiger | some are more standard complaint then others |
| 07:37.47 | mitch0 | Nargiddley: cool. thanks |
| 07:37.52 | SunTiger | and the ace2 team holds the standards. |
| 07:38.32 | ckknight | they exist in my right testicle. |
| 07:38.58 | ckknight | the standards, that is |
| 07:39.13 | SunTiger | i'm not sure what is more disturbing |
| 07:39.26 | SunTiger | pitbulls in your testicle or aceoption standards. |
| 07:39.50 | nymbia | both |
| 07:39.54 | nymbia | at the same time. |
| 07:40.36 | ckknight | AceOption standards. |
| 07:40.42 | ckknight | PitBull lives in the left one. |
| 07:40.48 | SunTiger | hehe |
| 07:41.21 | Roartindon | Shit, are you saying the the aceoptions and pitbull standards are lost? |
| 07:41.37 | ckknight | ... |
| 07:41.41 | ckknight | don't make me devoice you |
| 07:41.42 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33479 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.toc: |
| 07:41.42 | CIA-11 | PitBull_EstimatedHeals: |
| 07:41.42 | CIA-11 | - Add a note to the toc about working better when DrDamage is running |
| 07:41.43 | ckknight | I'll do it |
| 07:41.46 | Megalon | or pretty small they are? :P |
| 07:42.10 | nymbia | he'll do it! |
| 07:42.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Megalon] by ckknight |
| 07:42.14 | *** mode/#wowace [-v Megalon] by ckknight |
| 07:42.14 | nymbia | he's crazy like that! |
| 07:42.16 | ckknight | haha! |
| 07:42.25 | ckknight | what'll you do without your precious voice now! |
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| 07:44.55 | xlvii | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32220 new epic jewelcrafting gem? |
| 07:45.03 | xlvii | does anyone have more information on it? |
| 07:45.07 | xlvii | or others? |
| 07:45.12 | nymbia | there's a ton of em |
| 07:45.21 | nymbia | mmochampion.com |
| 07:45.29 | xlvii | cheers nymbia |
| 07:45.43 | Megalon | mhm |
| 07:46.07 | nymbia | i've heard designs are offa black temple trash though :( |
| 07:46.38 | Heri1 | what was the page with the item changes for the next patch? |
| 07:46.50 | nymbia | yeah |
| 07:47.48 | Heri1 | mmo-champion.com, not mmochampion.com |
| 07:48.55 | nymbia | damn. |
| 07:49.17 | nymbia | xlvii: ^ |
| 07:51.25 | Elkano | nymbia, did you finish the profession bag stuff for PT3? ;) |
| 07:51.44 | nymbia | i should really like... actually do that. |
| 07:51.55 | nymbia | after i finish eating chips. |
| 07:52.30 | Elkano | but I somehow hate Blizzard for not allowing mined gems into the mining bag :7 |
| 07:52.53 | nymbia | haha |
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| 07:55.11 | nevcairiel | mmmm chips |
| 07:55.21 | nevcairiel | too bad i am at work, and my chips at home |
| 07:56.14 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33480 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - disconnected is more important than dead. |
| 07:58.12 | nevcairiel | I wonder if someone might acutally look at BT3 and find some more performance tweaks |
| 07:59.32 | nevcairiel | Altho i dont really see much more, the OnUpdate is as minimal as it gets, and its necessary |
| 08:00.04 | nymbia | whats it do? |
| 08:00.22 | nevcairiel | take care of button flashing and updating the range indicator |
| 08:00.29 | nevcairiel | and setting the tooltip |
| 08:01.02 | nymbia | hmm |
| 08:01.14 | Heri1 | hmm I still can't seem to find that site that listed the individual item changes XD |
| 08:02.00 | nevcairiel | Oh, one thing i had in mind i could remove |
| 08:02.04 | nevcairiel | one variable assignment |
| 08:02.06 | nevcairiel | but still :P |
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| 08:04.27 | nymbia | heh yeah |
| 08:04.59 | nymbia | well could you do the tooltip with OnEnter? |
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| 08:05.20 | nymbia | hmm.. not really huh |
| 08:05.26 | nymbia | since the cooldown info's on there |
| 08:05.47 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 08:05.54 | nevcairiel | it updates the tooltip when its actually being displayed |
| 08:08.38 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 08:08.40 | nevcairiel | or maybe not |
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| 08:08.46 | nevcairiel | will try that when i get back home |
| 08:09.31 | nymbia | well the cooldown info is on there |
| 08:09.49 | nymbia | but maybe you could do it with a once-a-second scheduled event instead of OnUpdate |
| 08:09.55 | nevcairiel | yeah, but the tooltip itself should update that |
| 08:10.02 | nymbia | don't think it does |
| 08:10.14 | nevcairiel | all my onupdate does, is re-anchor the tooltip |
| 08:10.21 | nymbia | oh weird |
| 08:10.27 | nevcairiel | and call SetAction |
| 08:10.29 | nevcairiel | all the time |
| 08:10.50 | nevcairiel | Its blizzards AB implementation |
| 08:10.51 | nevcairiel | mostly |
| 08:10.54 | nymbia | but cooldown info is blizzard's excuse for having inventory item tooltips updated OnUpdate (and even more of em next patch >.<) |
| 08:12.20 | nevcairiel | well BT3 uses like 2s on login for inital setup ( thats quite alot somehow .. no idea :P ) and like 0.04ms per OnUpdate call, which already is throttled to 0.2s |
| 08:12.54 | nevcairiel | so like 0.2ms per second |
| 08:13.25 | nevcairiel | its way below tablet and Ace2 now tho :D |
| 08:15.03 | nymbia | :) |
| 08:15.30 | nevcairiel | its a bit more when you change stances alot |
| 08:15.38 | nevcairiel | updating textures uses performance.. |
| 08:16.06 | nymbia | yeah |
| 08:19.26 | Elkano | can't wait for 2.1 to improve EBBs ;) |
| 08:19.38 | nevcairiel | The new state stack is great in 2.1 |
| 08:19.49 | nevcairiel | but, BT3 looses some flexibilty |
| 08:19.53 | nevcairiel | but what do i care |
| 08:20.00 | nevcairiel | i reduced functions with like 20 lines to 3 lines :P |
| 08:20.08 | nymbia | heh |
| 08:20.32 | nevcairiel | My own stack implementation .. using big numbers to save values in them |
| 08:20.36 | Megalon | you removed the cr/lf and added ";"? :P |
| 08:20.42 | nevcairiel | like x xxx xxx |
| 08:21.11 | nevcairiel | 10000 * y + 100 * z + x |
| 08:21.18 | nevcairiel | now its push and pop :D |
| 08:21.20 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:21.24 | nevcairiel | mornin |
| 08:22.13 | Nickenyfiken | Looks like Chronometer need some work, is the author still around? |
| 08:22.42 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 08:22.54 | nevcairiel | i think he was one of the "no irc" guys |
| 08:23.01 | nymbia | he did something to it a couple weeks ago i think |
| 08:24.23 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 08:24.39 | nevcairiel | I dunno, but didnt Kaelten intend to remove Gold Adverts from the google ads? |
| 08:25.13 | Nickenyfiken | I think so, when someone report them |
| 08:25.34 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33481 10LittleWigs/ (HellfireCitadel/Warchief.lua TempestKeep/Capacitus.lua): LittleWigs: small tweaks |
| 08:26.02 | nevcairiel | buying gold was against eula or tos as well, right? |
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| 08:26.42 | Pneu | buying gold isnt against TOS, selliing gold is last time i checked |
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| 08:27.36 | nevcairiel | no risk for buyers? |
| 08:27.45 | nevcairiel | i always thought you break something as well :P |
| 08:27.55 | nevcairiel | short of supporting the damn gold industry |
| 08:28.00 | Nickenyfiken | That sucks |
| 08:28.03 | Nickenyfiken | If it's true |
| 08:28.11 | Tem|Sleep | I' |
| 08:28.28 | Tem|Sleep | ve never heard of someone getting banned because they bought gold |
| 08:28.46 | Tem|Sleep | I've heard of people getting banned because they were quitting anyway and sold their gold |
| 08:29.04 | nevcairiel | who cares about the ban then |
| 08:29.05 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 08:29.21 | Nickenyfiken | One week after when they change their mind :-P |
| 08:29.22 | Tem|Sleep | the only way I heard about it was they tried to come back and found their account banned |
| 08:29.45 | Tem|Sleep | he had full t2, too |
| 08:29.55 | Tem|Sleep | well, not after he vendored it for gold... |
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| 08:30.36 | CIA-11 | 03jerry * r33482 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: cleaner implementation for GetArenaPointsFromRating() |
| 08:32.15 | Nickenyfiken | Anyone know when we can expect 2.1? (I haven't really followed any info on this subject) |
| 08:33.00 | nevcairiel | default guesses are a month on PTR |
| 08:35.16 | Nickenyfiken | ok |
| 08:37.23 | theoddone33 | when did it go up? like a week ago? |
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| 08:37.47 | nevcairiel | one and a half |
| 08:38.30 | theoddone33 | excellent |
| 08:38.37 | Neebler | http://digg.com/gaming_news/Top_World_of_Warcraft_Arena_Team_Named_After_VA_Tech_Shooter |
| 08:38.40 | Neebler | haw! |
| 08:39.21 | theoddone33 | they got to the top pretty quick |
| 08:40.14 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33483 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 08:40.14 | CIA-11 | PitBull_Aura: |
| 08:40.14 | CIA-11 | - Don't disable the highlight options group when auras are disabled for a frame, because highlights will show even if auras are off. |
| 08:41.02 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r33484 10Mendeleev/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 08:41.02 | CIA-11 | Mendeleev: |
| 08:41.02 | CIA-11 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 08:41.40 | Nickenyfiken | KLH Threatmeter use most CPU out of all my addons... and im standing in Shattrath and haven't been in combat :-P |
| 08:42.05 | theoddone33 | ooh, I didn't know there was a way to tell what addons use what amount of cpu |
| 08:42.13 | nymbia | Nickenyfiken: lol |
| 08:42.28 | nymbia | theoddone33: in 2.1 |
| 08:42.48 | theoddone33 | cool, that's good stuff |
| 08:42.56 | nymbia | yup |
| 08:43.03 | theoddone33 | at least for amateur mod junkies like me |
| 08:47.18 | mitch0 | ckknight: could you check out this patch? (drycoded): http://ace.pastey.net/15806 |
| 08:47.50 | [Ammo] | nymbia: hrmf, who changed that back, I had fixed that a long time ago |
| 08:47.53 | [Ammo] | nymbia: time for blame! |
| 08:48.28 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm is it possible to somehow save/cache ad tablet and reuse it? Right now TrainerFus OnTextUpdate() is 150 lines of code and it's slow as hell when displaying many skills. Seems like a waste to regenerate the tooltip every time when nothing is changed. |
| 08:48.43 | mitch0 | ckknight: it contains at least one copy-waste bug I just noticed :) |
| 08:49.07 | nymbia | [Ammo]: you mean it turned off when all auras were hidden? |
| 08:49.25 | nymbia | [Ammo]: or just that the option disabling was consistant? |
| 08:50.00 | mitch0 | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/15808 |
| 08:50.40 | [Ammo] | nymbia: well I mean the frame highlight turning off when auras disabbled as well |
| 08:50.49 | [Ammo] | you just fixed it properly :) |
| 08:50.53 | nymbia | ah :) |
| 08:50.56 | [Ammo] | but someone must have messed it up |
| 08:51.00 | [Ammo] | because it was working like tht |
| 08:51.33 | nymbia | vhaarr revamped a lot of options, but no big deal on the couple mistakes, since he did a really great job overalls |
| 08:51.42 | nymbia | s? wtf? |
| 08:51.49 | nymbia | nobody saw that, |
| 08:51.54 | nymbia | or else... |
| 08:52.16 | ckknight | mitch0: seems alright in theory |
| 08:52.20 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:52.39 | mitch0 | ckknight: I'm not sure about the customColorHandler stuff. I haven't done such a thing before |
| 08:53.00 | ckknight | I'd've done a passValue = { group, key } |
| 08:53.05 | ckknight | and had one closure |
| 08:53.14 | mitch0 | gah... |
| 08:53.18 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.35 | mitch0 | sounds nicer, yeah :) |
| 08:54.19 | mitch0 | I didn't know "key" refers to the actual key there |
| 08:54.54 | mitch0 | then I'd refer to it as pass[0] for group and pass[1] for key, right? |
| 08:55.31 | nevcairiel | its 1 and 2 |
| 08:55.49 | nevcairiel | unless lua changed and i didnt notice :P |
| 08:56.15 | mitch0 | oh. never thought anyone would start indexing from 1 after the seventies... |
| 08:56.25 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:57.05 | mitch0 | ckknight: I'll rewrite it to get rid of the extra handler |
| 08:58.27 | mitch0 | (not that performance here really matters, but whatever) |
| 09:04.56 | [Ammo] | http://ace.pastey.net/15806 |
| 09:05.40 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 09:05.42 | [Ammo] | mousepaste |
| 09:05.47 | nymbia | haha |
| 09:05.55 | mitch0 | :) |
| 09:06.01 | [Ammo] | shows I check code on this channel :p |
| 09:06.07 | [Ammo] | lucky it wasn't one of my pr0n copy pastes |
| 09:06.09 | [Ammo] | *phew* |
| 09:06.12 | mitch0 | lol |
| 09:06.14 | nevcairiel | damn |
| 09:06.16 | nevcairiel | no fun today |
| 09:06.41 | [Ammo] | well goatse.cx is for sale :p |
| 09:06.47 | [Ammo] | 15k dollars offered already |
| 09:07.03 | nevcairiel | they shut down? |
| 09:07.04 | nevcairiel | too bad |
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| 09:08.31 | nevcairiel | As of April 22, the bidding rose to over a trillion dollars, causing the software used by the auction site to malfunction |
| 09:08.31 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:08.46 | Gagorian | Does anyone have a priest and a few minutes to check one thing for me? |
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| 09:11.20 | mitch0 | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/15811 |
| 09:11.28 | mitch0 | ckknight: ^^ this one is without the extra handler |
| 09:17.53 | [Ammo] | hmm dogtag needs xp and rep tags |
| 09:19.53 | mitch0 | [Ammoo]: can you add another hp display, too? it would display current HP if available, otherwise current % |
| 09:20.20 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: so it's like the current smart or whatsitsname, but without the max hp |
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| 09:21.13 | [Ammo] | I haven't really checked the dogtag code |
| 09:21.21 | [Ammo] | checking how to add experience and rep stuff now |
| 09:21.38 | ckknight | shouldn't be too complex |
| 09:22.04 | [Ammo] | yeah indeed |
| 09:22.06 | [Ammo] | and a learning experience :p |
| 09:22.58 | [Ammo] | would make the xp and rep bar a bit more configurable |
| 09:23.09 | [Ammo] | although I don't even use em myself |
| 09:23.27 | mitch0 | hehe |
| 09:24.13 | [Ammo] | oh it's already in there |
| 09:24.16 | [Ammo] | the rep and xp bar just don't use it |
| 09:24.17 | [Ammo] | sigh |
| 09:25.05 | mitch0 | ckknight: is it somehow possible to duplicate unit frames? what I had in mind is to replace my castbar with a special PitBull unitframe that only has the castbar in it for "player", but the New Unit Frame thingy didn't work for "player" (I'm guessing the unit frames are unique or somesuch) |
| 09:25.20 | ckknight | no |
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| 09:29.02 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33485 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:29.02 | CIA-11 | PeriodicTable-3.0: Add Container.ItemsInType.*, which contains all the |
| 09:29.02 | CIA-11 | items that can go into special bag types. |
| 09:29.04 | nymbia | Elkano: ^ |
| 09:29.23 | nymbia | Wobin: ^ might be useful for MrPlow as well |
| 09:30.48 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33486 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0: add restxp and percentrestxp tags |
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| 09:39.45 | abbat_w | uh, msie7 crap ;( mozilla much better |
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| 09:42.42 | Elkano | nymbia, mined? cool :) |
| 09:42.48 | nymbia | Elkano: :) |
| 09:42.49 | ckknight | abbat_w: I use Opera |
| 09:42.58 | nevcairiel | opera ftl |
| 09:43.06 | nymbia | ok, time to think vandalistic: |
| 09:43.13 | nymbia | (that's not a word i know) |
| 09:43.21 | nymbia | how would an addon manage to block an event? |
| 09:43.39 | Elkano | now write an addon that uses this data to tell you if getting a bag would be intelligent ;) |
| 09:43.39 | nevcairiel | from a web developers stand point, opera is the worst, always showing tables weird |
| 09:43.46 | nymbia | would setting or nilling _G.event do it? |
| 09:43.51 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: I agree |
| 09:44.13 | nymbia | Elkano: hehe ;) |
| 09:44.15 | [Ammo] | we've stopped support for opera completely |
| 09:44.20 | [Ammo] | 'if it works, you're lucky' |
| 09:44.25 | nevcairiel | nymbia: iterate through all frames and unregister it |
| 09:44.45 | [Ammo] | nymbia: what are you trying to accomplish |
| 09:44.49 | nymbia | nevcairiel: we're looking for something more 'accidental and random' |
| 09:44.57 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:45.21 | nymbia | [Ammo]: something in a number of ace addons (likely AceEvent) is somehow managing to do it |
| 09:45.49 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 09:45.55 | nymbia | yeah |
| 09:45.56 | [Ammo] | what event is getting lost? |
| 09:46.01 | nymbia | PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 09:46.04 | [Ammo] | doh |
| 09:46.10 | [Ammo] | I haven't noticed problems yet |
| 09:46.20 | nymbia | people have been saying their auctioneer won't load |
| 09:46.25 | Elkano | anyone having a nice day? let me ruin it ;) http://bl0g.wa-junge.de/wp-content/300_10_chucknorris.jpg |
| 09:46.30 | [Ammo] | they have old aceevents |
| 09:46.32 | [Ammo] | mixed with new ones |
| 09:46.40 | [Ammo] | that completely screw up everything |
| 09:46.44 | [Ammo] | they should update all their addons |
| 09:47.14 | nymbia | ooh i'll try reproducing it like that, good call |
| 09:48.25 | nevcairiel | why does it screw up anyway? |
| 09:48.31 | nevcairiel | shouldnt it kick the old versions? |
| 09:48.34 | [Ammo] | something in the upgrade pat |
| 09:48.36 | nymbia | it does |
| 09:48.36 | [Ammo] | path |
| 09:49.05 | nymbia | i thought we had the upgrade path all fixed... registered events carry over fine now |
| 09:49.24 | nevcairiel | still i dont get how it manages to block events from non-ace addons |
| 09:49.31 | nymbia | and i dont see how it could flat-out block an event |
| 09:49.58 | nevcairiel | If it "forgets" to dispatch events to the ace addons .. ok .. but auctioneer? |
| 09:50.32 | Diao | well |
| 09:50.35 | Diao | from what I've seen |
| 09:50.43 | Diao | when I had trouble with AceEvent |
| 09:50.54 | [Ammo] | nymbia: the solution is simple so shrug |
| 09:50.59 | Diao | if I went into ACP and scrolled down to Auctioneer and clicked "load addon" |
| 09:51.01 | Diao | since it's LoD |
| 09:51.05 | Diao | it would work properly |
| 09:51.09 | nymbia | right |
| 09:51.13 | Diao | it just wouldn't load automatically like it should've |
| 09:51.18 | nevcairiel | stubby is broken, then? |
| 09:51.30 | nymbia | but it was supposed to load, probably on PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 09:51.30 | nymbia | and didnt |
| 09:51.33 | Diao | but I'd get weird errors on stuff like trinketmenu |
| 09:51.48 | nymbia | nevcairiel: there's a post or two on the deadly bossmods page with the same type of reports |
| 09:51.50 | Diao | like my normal setting is to have minimap button hidden, trinkets showing with menu on mouseover |
| 09:51.58 | Diao | but if there was an AE conflict |
| 09:52.13 | Diao | the button would appear again and the trinkets would be hidden |
| 09:52.14 | nevcairiel | oh well blocking DBM isnt too bad :P |
| 09:52.17 | Diao | and if i typed /trinket |
| 09:52.17 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:52.20 | [Ammo] | nymbia: url? |
| 09:52.23 | Diao | the frame outline showed up, but not the actual buttons |
| 09:52.26 | [Ammo] | I love some good drama |
| 09:52.38 | Diao | www.deadlybossmods.com i believe |
| 09:53.17 | nymbia | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4940/deadly-boss-mods-la-vendetta/ |
| 09:53.39 | Diao | Oh yeah, does anyone use littlewigs? |
| 09:53.50 | [Ammo] | not really 'use' |
| 09:53.53 | [Ammo] | but I have it installed |
| 09:53.58 | Diao | Oh |
| 09:54.03 | Diao | the Pandemonius mod is interesting.. |
| 09:54.03 | [Ammo] | need to update Capacitus though, got a heroic log of him :) |
| 09:54.11 | Diao | It only shows when his shield goes down, not up |
| 09:54.12 | [Ammo] | I haven't done pandemonius in a while |
| 09:54.23 | [Ammo] | did you log the fight? |
| 09:54.31 | [Ammo] | if not, then do so, and get the correct messages |
| 09:54.37 | nevcairiel | ive seen every heroic encounter so far .. then again i didnt care to log anything |
| 09:54.43 | Diao | Unfortunately I didn't but I'll do it next time I run MT |
| 09:55.41 | [Ammo] | I've seen most of em |
| 09:55.45 | mitch0 | ckknight: are you around? |
| 09:55.46 | [Ammo] | but I didn't log all |
| 09:55.54 | [Ammo] | got a full Mechanaar heroic log and bigwigs_debugger log |
| 09:55.57 | nevcairiel | Plus i dont really care about boss mods for heroic encounters |
| 09:56.02 | nymbia | what the kaboom... |
| 09:56.12 | [Ammo] | yeah well some people want them nevcairie |
| 09:56.16 | nevcairiel | I know |
| 09:56.18 | nymbia | these critical errors are a little unnerving >.> |
| 09:56.52 | nevcairiel | But i like a good challenge, and where necessary blizzard added the on-screen boss emotes |
| 09:56.57 | Kirkburn | Is there any other game with the kind of customizable UI and community that WoW has? |
| 09:58.22 | nevcairiel | only thing, i always enable bw in cot1 heroic to use the timers for pat respawn :P |
| 09:58.46 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33487 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: BigWigs: Maulgar - change Whirldwind to Whirlwind again.... |
| 09:58.50 | [Ammo] | I knew I already fixed that typo |
| 09:58.56 | [Ammo] | yet someone is retarded and keeps changing it back |
| 09:58.59 | nymbia | lol |
| 09:59.01 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:59.14 | nymbia | that's what svn logs are for! |
| 09:59.22 | nevcairiel | and blame-action :) |
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| 09:59.26 | Gagorian | Yeah.. That Whirldwind is a badass attack :l |
| 09:59.27 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 10:02.17 | nevcairiel | so i found your first fix, wonder where it was changed again :P |
| 10:03.24 | SunTiger | I kinda like Whirldwind |
| 10:03.28 | SunTiger | can we keep it ? |
| 10:04.02 | nymbia | well, forcing AceEvent to upgrade from 32579 to current crashed me to desktop a couple of times, but PLAYER_LOGIN is firing flawlessly |
| 10:04.08 | nymbia | hmm. |
| 10:04.17 | nevcairiel | crashing is worse then auctineer not loading :P |
| 10:04.21 | Elkano | nevcairiel, when was ammo's first change? |
| 10:04.34 | nevcairiel | [27815] 02/11/07 15:15:35 ammo BigWigs?: (maulgar) fix some typos |
| 10:04.49 | nymbia | ckknight: would it work better to revert AceEvent-2.0 to last week and have this new stuff as a new major version? |
| 10:05.55 | nevcairiel | The funny thing is |
| 10:06.27 | Elkano | ammo, rabbit :) |
| 10:06.37 | nevcairiel | Ammo changed in his first cleanup some Whirldwind stuff, but not all |
| 10:06.39 | Elkano | 30209 |
| 10:07.52 | nevcairiel | nah rabbit only changed the string names, not the strink itself .. ammo forgot some d's in his first cleanup :D |
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| 10:08.42 | nevcairiel | *string |
| 10:08.48 | nevcairiel | where did that k come from |
| 10:09.42 | Kirkburn | I have a little news snippet for you all: |
| 10:09.44 | Kirkburn | Singer Sheryl Crow has said the amount of toilet paper we use should be limited to help the environment. |
| 10:09.44 | Kirkburn | Crow suggests using "only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where two to three could be required". |
| 10:09.54 | Elkano | nevcairiel, yeah, I see :) |
| 10:10.15 | Kirkburn | One bloody square. |
| 10:10.27 | Kirkburn | (well, actually, er, hopefully not bloody. Ahem) |
| 10:10.27 | nevcairiel | I couldnt live with that |
| 10:10.39 | Kirkburn | I don't know how it's even possible |
| 10:10.50 | Elkano | Kirkburn, depends on the dimensions wether we should agree ;) |
| 10:10.51 | nevcairiel | you turn it? |
| 10:11.04 | Kirkburn | Well, she did say "square" |
| 10:11.10 | Kirkburn | Turn it? Eww |
| 10:11.27 | nevcairiel | obviously you need to use even more water afterwards then |
| 10:11.30 | nevcairiel | but you might save paper |
| 10:11.38 | Elkano | "there's something brow on my assigned square... :/" - "well, it's recycled paper..." ;) |
| 10:12.03 | Kirkburn | Hey, why don't we all go back to using a sponge on a stick! |
| 10:12.27 | nevcairiel | because it smells |
| 10:13.12 | Kirkburn | But of course, we also have the question of "dabbing" or "shaking" |
| 10:13.22 | Gagorian | Or.. everyone should just eat more dietary fibre for better consistency |
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| 10:13.29 | Kirkburn | I'm guessing she'd like us all to shake |
| 10:14.24 | Kirkburn | Someone should set up a vote :P Are you a (Dabber) or (Shaker)? |
| 10:15.48 | Stephmw | mornin |
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| 10:16.01 | nymbia | lol Kirkburn |
| 10:16.49 | snirks | strink |
| 10:16.51 | snirks | its cute |
| 10:16.55 | snirks | i like the typo |
| 10:17.38 | snirks | Cairenn|afk: wtb Sars UI for WoW |
| 10:18.06 | Kirkburn | Vote! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5778.0 |
| 10:18.12 | Kirkburn | I set up the poll :D |
| 10:18.19 | Industrial | snirks: Sars? |
| 10:18.19 | nevcairiel | oh no |
| 10:18.25 | nevcairiel | i was really hoping no one would |
| 10:18.32 | Kirkburn | (yes, this is a men-only vote, I'm so sexist) |
| 10:18.46 | nevcairiel | its not really a vote |
| 10:18.51 | Industrial | I'm looking for the url to that flash presentation of the history of electronic music. Does anyone know what I mean and/or has the url? |
| 10:18.51 | nevcairiel | oh it is |
| 10:18.56 | snirks | Industrial: yes |
| 10:18.56 | nevcairiel | the vote style is weird |
| 10:18.56 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 10:19.16 | snirks | Industrial: we are not talking about the virus :P but Sarsippius the Iksar Warrior |
| 10:19.50 | nevcairiel | Industrial: i know what you mean, sec |
| 10:19.57 | Industrial | thanks :) |
| 10:20.08 | Industrial | wanted to show some ppl |
| 10:20.57 | nevcairiel | http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html |
| 10:20.59 | nevcairiel | i think thats it |
| 10:21.44 | Kirkburn | Wow |
| 10:21.54 | Industrial | yess ta |
| 10:22.06 | nevcairiel | its an amazing page, really |
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| 10:24.10 | Kirkburn | I love funky house |
| 10:26.44 | Industrial | ebm, electro industrial, psychidelic \o/ |
| 10:27.46 | abbat_w | drum'n'base |
| 10:28.19 | nevcairiel | i am at work and cant turn music on >:( |
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| 10:31.18 | Kirkburn | Wow, I am /so/ listening to DI.fm for the rest of the day |
| 10:31.33 | nevcairiel | DI.fm is great, if you change channels now and then |
| 10:31.38 | nevcairiel | it repeats after a while |
| 10:31.45 | Aenslaed | lol |
| 10:31.51 | Aenslaed | vocal trance gets so repetitive |
| 10:32.38 | Kirkburn | I'm on Soulful House atm |
| 10:32.47 | Industrial | goa psy trance \o/ |
| 10:33.02 | nevcairiel | goa psy is not good for me |
| 10:33.06 | Kirkburn | Vote! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5778.0 |
| 10:33.13 | Industrial | I like it |
| 10:33.18 | Industrial | especially Infected Mushroom |
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| 10:33.26 | Kirkburn | I should set this up to tell people to vote every 30 mins >.< |
| 10:34.01 | Kirkburn | Anyone other sites like it? |
| 10:34.12 | nevcairiel | nothing like that |
| 10:34.16 | nevcairiel | afaik |
| 10:35.45 | nevcairiel | I wish my iPod could play di.fm .. without recording it the day before :P |
| 10:38.58 | nymbia | holy shit i think i reproduced it... |
| 10:39.22 | nevcairiel | good for you |
| 10:39.25 | nevcairiel | now fix it |
| 10:39.26 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:39.28 | nymbia | heh |
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| 10:42.09 | CIA-11 | 03gandharva * r33488 10Mendeleev/ (7 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 10:42.09 | CIA-11 | Mendeleev: |
| 10:42.09 | CIA-11 | - added Magtheridon Loot |
| 10:42.09 | CIA-11 | - added The Eye Loot |
| 10:42.09 | CIA-11 | - removed Doomlord Kazzak from Set_Instances_41-60.lua |
| 10:42.09 | CIA-11 | - added Doomlord Kazzak to Set_Instances_61-70.lua |
| 10:42.11 | CIA-11 | - added Broggok |
| 10:42.25 | nevcairiel | who is Broggok? |
| 10:42.38 | Megalon | blood furnace |
| 10:42.38 | Megalon | boss |
| 10:42.39 | nevcairiel | ah |
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| 10:42.44 | nevcairiel | i knew i heard that name before |
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| 10:42.53 | Nickenyfiken | Uhm can someone explain how i use Expo? Can't find any docs. |
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| 10:44.34 | nymbia | ok, this is getting creepy |
| 10:44.35 | Kirkburn | Giant floaty head thing, nevcairiel |
| 10:44.46 | nevcairiel | i figured |
| 10:44.52 | nymbia | its like the twilight zone of user interfaces |
| 10:45.11 | Kirkburn | nymbia, ? |
| 10:45.12 | TheKarn | huh? |
| 10:45.17 | nymbia | it looks like the bug ate the chat frame event stuff too, because i cant ChatFrame1:AddMessage |
| 10:46.02 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:46.11 | nevcairiel | AceEvent eats your babies |
| 10:46.22 | nymbia | seems that way |
| 10:46.38 | nymbia | debugging without chat output.. this is a new one. |
| 10:46.44 | nevcairiel | use message() |
| 10:46.47 | nevcairiel | its annoying |
| 10:46.50 | nevcairiel | but maybe works |
| 10:46.50 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 10:47.00 | nymbia | NICE |
| 10:47.03 | nymbia | ty ^^ |
| 10:47.28 | nymbia | wow, they're right |
| 10:47.56 | nymbia | PLAYER_LOGIN didnt fire... |
| 10:48.29 | nevcairiel | I still dont see how any addon should even be able to stop blizzards event dispatcher |
| 10:48.31 | Gagorian | You think it could eat PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED? |
| 10:48.50 | nymbia | if it can do one, then it can do em all. |
| 10:48.57 | Gandharva | ah my fault... didn't add Broggok. I added Blood Guard Porung. |
| 10:49.02 | nymbia | i wish i knew how to debug this. |
| 10:49.16 | nevcairiel | porung is that heroic sh guy, right? |
| 10:49.22 | Gandharva | jeah |
| 10:49.31 | Elkano | gb uhzj |
| 10:50.43 | nymbia | hrm. i know buggrabber's getting errors, but i can't print em. |
| 10:50.59 | nevcairiel | get bugsack? |
| 10:51.10 | nymbia | true. |
| 10:51.25 | nymbia | i copied this dude's addons exactly |
| 10:51.33 | nymbia | so i could get the bug |
| 10:51.35 | nymbia | heh |
| 10:51.39 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 10:51.43 | Elkano | you could also check the svs? |
| 10:51.52 | nevcairiel | yeah or check the svs |
| 10:52.02 | nymbia | yeah |
| 10:52.10 | nevcairiel | hm, is buggrabber or bugsack saving the bugs? |
| 10:52.12 | nevcairiel | or both? |
| 10:52.34 | nevcairiel | ah grabber only |
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| 10:53.01 | Elkano | grabber saves, sack shows |
| 10:53.08 | Gandharva | do you guys have any idea how to support EQCompare/MultiTips in Mendeleev? |
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| 10:53.34 | nevcairiel | the same way it works on GameTooltip, just hook the EQ tooltips |
| 10:54.50 | nevcairiel | in OnEnable it already hooks AtlasLoot and GameTooltip |
| 10:54.55 | nevcairiel | just add more cases for the other addons |
| 10:55.06 | Nickenyfiken | Well do we need EQCompare in 2.1? |
| 10:55.27 | nevcairiel | Hm, i dont know how good the compare thing is |
| 10:55.34 | nevcairiel | maybe you still need it in some cases |
| 10:55.47 | Diao | Blizzard implementations of addons are usually subpar :( |
| 10:56.26 | CIA-11 | 03damjau * r33489 10WhoDrop/Bindings.xml: WhoDrop - |
| 10:58.47 | nymbia | that's a fine commit message |
| 10:59.24 | Nickenyfiken | oh noes |
| 10:59.34 | Nickenyfiken | Tablet didn't like "for i=1, 10000 do cat:AddLine('text', "mooh") end" |
| 10:59.37 | Nickenyfiken | :-P |
| 10:59.41 | Elkano | nymbia,well some of the templates haf a CRLF in between :/ |
| 11:05.24 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r33490 10Mendeleev/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 11:05.24 | CIA-11 | Mendeleev: |
| 11:05.24 | CIA-11 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 11:05.25 | CIA-11 | 03damjau * r33491 10WhoDrop/ (WhoDrop.Locales.lua WhoDrop.lua WhoDrop.toc): WhoDrop - add autosearch, fix search function bug, add bindings |
| 11:05.58 | nymbia | aceevent is definitely doing something that the game doesnt like. |
| 11:06.13 | nymbia | 9 times out of 10 it flat out crashes |
| 11:06.53 | nymbia | the times i get in, PLAYER_LOGIN doesnt fire (registered normally or through AceEvent) |
| 11:07.23 | nevcairiel | that only happens when the upgrade path is triggered, right? |
| 11:07.34 | nymbia | its not just that |
| 11:07.49 | nymbia | i did a couple little test cases of using the upgrade path and they worked |
| 11:08.07 | nymbia | it wasnt until i copied this guy's entire addon setup that things started exploding |
| 11:08.13 | Kirkburn | The tooltip compare thing in 2.1 is not as comprehensive as EQCompare afaik |
| 11:08.31 | Kirkburn | Plus sometimes it requires a modifier key |
| 11:08.48 | Kirkburn | @ Nickenyfiken |
| 11:10.30 | [Ammo] | anyone know if UNIT_FACTION fires when you gain invisible faction stuff? |
| 11:10.40 | nevcairiel | invisible? |
| 11:10.46 | [Ammo] | yeah that does not appear in combat log |
| 11:11.05 | [Ammo] | ohwell I'll just add the stuff to dogtag and pray :p |
| 11:11.13 | Ominous | argh why cant blizz make an event when a debuff is reapplied to the target |
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| 11:14.11 | nevcairiel | with 2.1 you can watch the time |
| 11:14.19 | nevcairiel | its at least somethign |
| 11:14.56 | abyssichate | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/Damn_Gato/crazygm.jpg - is that old? |
| 11:15.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:15.50 | nevcairiel | thats great |
| 11:15.51 | Ominous | ya but i wld need to make an on update script to use it |
| 11:16.12 | nevcairiel | I can write you a library which fires an event |
| 11:16.21 | nevcairiel | that way YOU dont need to worry about the onupdate =P |
| 11:16.42 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r33492 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: Add option to set strictFiltering on each filter |
| 11:17.15 | nevcairiel | Saroz implement my feature request, i dont have time todo it myself :P |
| 11:17.24 | Saroz | which was again? |
| 11:17.32 | nevcairiel | hide 5-man raids |
| 11:17.34 | nevcairiel | like in arenas |
| 11:17.35 | Ominous | if u really want to :P but i am fine to do it |
| 11:17.42 | Saroz | there is a key binding to hide the frames |
| 11:17.50 | nevcairiel | meh |
| 11:18.13 | ckknight | Saroz: I do it in PitBull, you're just slacking |
| 11:18.26 | Saroz | so true :| |
| 11:18.36 | nevcairiel | Yeah i want it to work with PitBulls show 5-man raid as party :P |
| 11:18.40 | nymbia | ckknight: AceEvent's doing scary stuff |
| 11:18.46 | ckknight | oh? |
| 11:18.49 | ckknight | I blame gnomes |
| 11:18.50 | Saroz | hrrrm |
| 11:18.57 | Saroz | ok, will look into it |
| 11:19.17 | ckknight | nymbia: and is it an upgrading issue or what? |
| 11:19.26 | nymbia | ckknight: i got my interface folder emulating this guy's :http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5777.msg95622#msg95622 |
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| 11:19.49 | nymbia | ckknight: critical errors half the time, when it loads in PLAYER_LOGIN really isn't firing |
| 11:19.58 | nymbia | ChatFrame1:AddMessage() doesnt do a damn thing |
| 11:20.03 | nymbia | basically all hell breaks loose |
| 11:20.04 | [Ammo] | all addons up-to-date? |
| 11:20.08 | nymbia | no |
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| 11:20.13 | [Ammo] | yeah duh |
| 11:20.13 | nevcairiel | the point is, when its not :P |
| 11:20.14 | nymbia | making AceEvent upgrade |
| 11:20.21 | ckknight | I has an idea! |
| 11:21.01 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: the problem is there were some nasty aceevent versions taht broke the upgrade path |
| 11:21.03 | ckknight | basically, for WoW-2.0, load the old version, for WoW-2.1, load the new version |
| 11:21.13 | nymbia | hm |
| 11:21.17 | ckknight | maybe. |
| 11:21.22 | [Ammo] | so fixing that will be slightly impossible methinks |
| 11:21.24 | nevcairiel | so you post-pone the issue till 2.1 goes live ? :P |
| 11:21.28 | nymbia | my idea was make the new stuff a new major version |
| 11:21.29 | ckknight | yes, nevcairiel |
| 11:21.39 | ckknight | which by then people should have upgraded to the new system. |
| 11:21.43 | ckknight | no, nymbia |
| 11:21.46 | ckknight | that'd fuck the whole system |
| 11:21.49 | nymbia | hm |
| 11:22.22 | ckknight | it's an upgrading issue, essentially. |
| 11:22.23 | [Ammo] | fucking the system is good |
| 11:22.24 | Elkano | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:22.25 | [Ammo] | down with the man! |
| 11:22.35 | [Ammo] | update all your damn addons p |
| 11:22.37 | ckknight | Elkano: by posting to wow sites. |
| 11:22.46 | ckknight | Elkano: people update all their addons on patchday. |
| 11:23.24 | nymbia | ckknight: could you throw an error in right now to have it just error if they upgrade from an old rev? |
| 11:23.39 | nymbia | ckknight: this bug is.. destuctive. |
| 11:23.40 | ckknight | nymbia: that could theoretically work |
| 11:23.47 | Elkano | hmm, easiest patch would be to tell people to install latest Ace2 standalone, wouldn't it? since then the old versions wouldn't load |
| 11:23.49 | ckknight | let's do that preliminarily. |
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| 11:25.15 | nevcairiel | Elkano: thats what we tell people here |
| 11:25.15 | nymbia | Elkano: yeah basically. they'll notice an error in-game sooner than they'll notice a post on the forums ;) |
| 11:25.21 | nevcairiel | but not everyone comes here P |
| 11:26.02 | Elkano | maybe the error should point to files.wowace.com and tell them to get the latest zip |
| 11:26.33 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33493 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - due to a destructive upgrade bug, prevent old versions from upgrading, preliminarily. |
| 11:26.35 | nymbia | embeds will still work fine as long as they get em updated |
| 11:26.50 | ckknight | try that |
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| 11:27.08 | Kirkburn | abyssichate, thanks SO much for that link |
| 11:27.11 | nymbia | ok |
| 11:27.17 | nevcairiel | since sylv is so slow with updating WAU |
| 11:27.25 | nevcairiel | i should ping Kaelten about helping |
| 11:28.01 | Kirkburn | WAU? Update? Wassis? |
| 11:28.11 | nevcairiel | its basicly a WAU issue, its not using the minor library revisions |
| 11:28.22 | nevcairiel | (for WAU users) |
| 11:28.23 | Saroz | omg omg omg someone fucked up the AceEvent upgrade |
| 11:29.32 | nevcairiel | actually, i might just do that .. i am woring with C# half my day anyway, why not the other half :P |
| 11:30.24 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: ping about WAU, or something |
| 11:30.25 | Kirkburn | Lol, I like Shinja's avatar |
| 11:30.45 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33494 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - now holds the old version (WoW 2.0) and the new version (WoW 2.1), loading each in the respective patches. Hopefully this doesn't fuck everything to hell. |
| 11:30.46 | Kirkburn | dps ... We deliver. |
| 11:31.13 | Kirkburn | Can I just say ... release the patch already Blizzard! |
| 11:31.21 | ckknight | ...no |
| 11:31.23 | SunTiger_ | nuuuu |
| 11:31.25 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 11:31.25 | ckknight | the patch is not ready |
| 11:31.27 | ckknight | too many bugs |
| 11:31.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+o SunTiger] by ChanServ |
| 11:31.37 | Kirkburn | What type of bugs atm? |
| 11:31.43 | ckknight | assorted bugs. |
| 11:31.48 | ckknight | like the portrait bug |
| 11:31.51 | SunTiger | the bugs that should be in patches. |
| 11:31.56 | SunTiger | should not be* |
| 11:32.01 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 11:32.05 | Megalon | :o |
| 11:32.08 | nevcairiel | when was the last PTR patch? |
| 11:32.15 | nevcairiel | i bet alot has been fixed since then |
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| 11:32.33 | ckknight | nevcairiel: little under a week |
| 11:32.36 | Ominous | is it possible to make square minimap work with the rotating minimap? |
| 11:32.44 | Kirkburn | It's not as if they're working on a new expansion or anything? ;) |
| 11:32.46 | ckknight | Ominous: theoretically, though funkily |
| 11:33.27 | Ominous | ~seen arjuna |
| 11:33.50 | purl | arjuna <n=weechat@pool-71-161-51-137.clppva.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 73d 20h 42m 53s ago, saying: 'Adirelle|work: temporarily at least =)'. |
| 11:33.50 | Kirkburn | What is thise rotating minimap thing about? The whole frame always moves to make you point up? |
| 11:33.50 | Kirkburn | *this |
| 11:33.50 | ckknight | yes |
| 11:34.11 | Ominous | on a new expansion or anything? ;) |
| 11:34.11 | Ominous | [12:32] <@ckknight> Ominous: theoretically, though funkily |
| 11:34.14 | Ominous | damit |
| 11:34.25 | ckknight | ? |
| 11:34.25 | Kirkburn | Hmm, I can see why a square minimap would need 'special' stuff |
| 11:34.26 | Ominous | ckknight: any tips on how i would go about it? |
| 11:34.31 | ckknight | no |
| 11:34.31 | Ominous | i didnt mean to past that |
| 11:36.46 | Elkano | ok, this one hit my spot :) http://explosm.net/comics/876/ |
| 11:39.07 | Kirkburn | Elkano, ROFL |
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| 11:52.27 | Wobin | nymbia: <3 |
| 11:52.44 | Wobin | I don't know if it will help (ie, how I could incorporate it) but I'll give it a go |
| 11:52.51 | nymbia | :) |
| 11:53.03 | ckknight | http://explosm.net/comics/862/ |
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| 11:54.17 | Wobin | would it really be funkily? |
| 11:54.26 | Wobin | surely it just rotates within the frame? |
| 11:54.33 | nymbia | ckknight: triggering that error causes an epic cascade of errors, but it gets the message across :) |
| 11:55.03 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
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| 11:55.36 | nymbia | ckknight: only problem is that if they upgrade from super-old to yesterday to today, it wont hit em with the error |
| 11:55.51 | ckknight | true. |
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| 11:56.41 | mitch0 | ckknight: I'm having doubts about the passValue = { group, key } stuff |
| 12:00.20 | Wobin | oh man |
| 12:00.23 | Wobin | 91% geek |
| 12:00.29 | Wobin | http://mingle2.com/geek-quiz |
| 12:03.19 | ckknight | http://explosm.net/comics/857/ |
| 12:04.07 | Saroz | You are 51% Geek! |
| 12:06.58 | Gagorian | I'm 46% |
| 12:07.00 | Gagorian | :l |
| 12:07.21 | haste | man.. selecting yes on "have you ever solved a complex computer problem in the shower?" really made it jump :< |
| 12:07.53 | haste | 46% here also :3 |
| 12:08.54 | Kirkburn | 70% |
| 12:09.34 | Chompers | 51% |
| 12:09.36 | nymbia | 76% |
| 12:09.38 | Kirkburn | Han shot first, I tell you |
| 12:09.45 | Chompers | nooo |
| 12:09.47 | haste | I have no idea :( |
| 12:09.47 | nymbia | i picked Han too ;) |
| 12:09.53 | Wobin | ditto |
| 12:09.53 | nymbia | lol |
| 12:10.10 | Gagorian | Hans shot first ofc |
| 12:10.10 | haste | what is it even a refrence to :p ? |
| 12:10.20 | Gagorian | The new version of star wars |
| 12:10.20 | Wobin | The cantina scene in star wars |
| 12:10.21 | Chompers | star wars |
| 12:10.32 | Gagorian | They changed it so that han didn't shoot first |
| 12:10.33 | Gagorian | -_- |
| 12:10.39 | haste | I've only watched the old movies :3 |
| 12:10.40 | Chompers | why did they change it in the first place? |
| 12:10.44 | Wobin | yeah |
| 12:10.50 | Wobin | the first (4th) one |
| 12:10.52 | Gagorian | To make Han more friendly to the kids! |
| 12:11.05 | Chompers | but hes a space pirate! |
| 12:11.22 | Kirkburn | The new version of the cantina scene in first Star Wars (IV) where they changed it so that Han didn't shoot first, to make it more friendly to kids, even though he's a space pirate! |
| 12:11.48 | haste | It's way too long since I watched star wars |
| 12:11.50 | Kirkburn | Sorry, bored :P |
| 12:12.11 | yacoob | uh, 96%. Bow before me. |
| 12:12.35 | Kirkburn | What was that code thingy it showed? |
| 12:12.44 | Wobin | hehe |
| 12:12.50 | Wobin | regexp |
| 12:13.05 | Wobin | go yacoob! |
| 12:13.14 | yacoob | two b or not two b :P |
| 12:13.58 | Roartindon | heh, I've seen someone wearing that tshirt |
| 12:14.00 | yacoob | come to think of it, this SW question is the only one I 've chosen wrong. |
| 12:14.07 | Wobin | sw? |
| 12:14.12 | Wobin | oh |
| 12:14.14 | Wobin | starwars |
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| 12:14.31 | Kirkburn | What did you say, yacoob ? |
| 12:14.54 | yacoob | which is a bit funny, because I knew about the whole thing with Greedo being changed to bastard in new edition 8) |
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| 12:15.43 | Kirkburn | He's always been a bastard, but he became a faster bastard :P |
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| 12:16.43 | Infineon | hi there |
| 12:16.51 | Infineon | anyone here that could maybe gimme a help? |
| 12:16.57 | Infineon | - /script SetRaidTargetIcon("target", 8); |
| 12:17.15 | Infineon | i wanna replace target with something like a raidplayer name or id |
| 12:17.38 | Infineon | so that i can use a macro to set an icon on a player in raid without havin him targetted |
| 12:17.53 | beerkAWAY | raid1-40 |
| 12:18.12 | Infineon | so grp 1 goes from 1-5 from top to bottom place?` |
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| 12:18.32 | beerkAWAY | Not guaranteed i think |
| 12:18.40 | Infineon | could i use script code in macros for searching which id a playername has got? |
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| 12:19.00 | beerke | loop through raidid's for playername and you have correct id |
| 12:19.19 | beerke | group 1 is from 1-5 for sure |
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| 12:19.54 | Gagorian | Infineon: No, you can't |
| 12:20.10 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33495 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/ (Prat.lua Prat.toc): Prat: Added code to test the new Auto Load-On-Demand functionality. This lets you have the the memory savings of LoD without breaking up Prat into 20+ addons. |
| 12:20.49 | beerke | u can do something like /target <player> /setraidtargeticon /targetlasttarget |
| 12:20.58 | beerke | i think ^^ |
| 12:21.05 | mitch0 | haha, I think I managed to break the geek-o-meter :) |
| 12:21.11 | mitch0 | You are 107% Geek! |
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| 12:21.39 | mitch0 | there was some sort of lag at around question 14 and I clicked the answer a bunch of times :) |
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| 12:24.38 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel if you have the time to spend, i suggest you fix WAU yourself |
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| 12:25.30 | Industrial | lol :P |
| 12:25.47 | Industrial | "I'll await your patch" LOLOOLOLOLLL |
| 12:25.53 | Industrial | sylvanaar made me say it. |
| 12:26.14 | haste | lol |
| 12:26.38 | sylvanaar | including the mandatory beta cycle |
| 12:28.17 | ckknight | http://explosm.net/comics/799/ |
| 12:28.58 | abyssichate | Oh, this is weird, in Pitbull, if I set the auras to be "split" so that I can position both buffs and debuffs at the bottom of the target unitframe, I don't get to see target's resurrection sickness; whenever I uncheck the "split" option, res sickness appears |
| 12:29.08 | mitch0 | ckknight: have you got a minute? or too busy with the comic stuff? :) |
| 12:29.28 | ckknight | busy |
| 12:29.28 | kenlyric | it's a good incentive for people using wau to go standalone, anyway :) |
| 12:29.42 | mitch0 | ckknight: ok ;) |
| 12:30.00 | sylvanaar | 1.7 was over 100 man hours of work |
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| 12:30.38 | sylvanaar | you wonder why i dont want to commit to another cycle? |
| 12:31.18 | kenlyric | nice.. i just noticed that it hanges the F12 command based on me having standalonelibs installed. |
| 12:31.22 | kenlyric | *changes |
| 12:31.26 | sylvanaar | yep |
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| 12:31.55 | kenlyric | I'm on board with your "fix the website" compaign. |
| 12:32.00 | kenlyric | god, I can't type today. |
| 12:32.36 | [Ammo] | guildmate soloed the chess event in karazhan :) |
| 12:33.03 | kenlyric | what method did he use? |
| 12:33.12 | kenlyric | did he have permission to solo it? |
| 12:33.12 | sylvanaar | at this point, im fine with breaking wau 1.6, and changing latest.txt + the change logs |
| 12:33.12 | [Ammo] | http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot042307124803ge9.jpg |
| 12:33.15 | [Ammo] | not sure |
| 12:33.16 | [Ammo] | but he did it |
| 12:33.32 | sylvanaar | thats all you need to get wau 1.7 to work |
| 12:34.24 | Wobin | maybe he 'invisibility'd it in |
| 12:34.59 | sbu | wtf this is impossible [Ammo] :o |
| 12:35.01 | [Ammo] | could be |
| 12:35.05 | [Ammo] | not impossible |
| 12:35.09 | sbu | (chess solo) |
| 12:35.10 | [Ammo] | took him 10+ games to win or so |
| 12:35.12 | sbu | hm |
| 12:35.18 | kenlyric | or maybe they cleared too much in front of it. |
| 12:35.32 | [Ammo] | I'm already asking who's karazhan ID he shafted :p |
| 12:35.41 | sbu | and my gf is crying now because the shield didnt drop in 2 months... |
| 12:36.37 | [Ammo] | but soloing it is possible |
| 12:36.41 | [Ammo] | so go go go go |
| 12:38.29 | sbu | uhm - but you need kara id with curator down? |
| 12:38.29 | [Ammo] | no clue |
| 12:38.29 | [Ammo] | he just posted the pics and I wasn't online |
| 12:38.30 | [Ammo] | he did it 1.5 hours ago |
| 12:38.30 | sbu | hmm btw invisibility |
| 12:38.30 | Kirkburn | I think there are guides to soloing it on the wiki |
| 12:38.30 | sbu | is it possible to go there? |
| 12:38.30 | sbu | w/ mage invisibility? |
| 12:38.30 | sbu | or broken by bosses? |
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| 12:38.31 | [Ammo] | and he did not do it in my instance ID or the other one in the guild |
| 12:38.31 | [Ammo] | since those are cleared |
| 12:38.40 | sbu | hmmm |
| 12:38.41 | mitch0 | hm. interesting :) |
| 12:38.41 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn perhaps this might be the best idea - change lastest.txt to point to the correct version and the changelog name to the new naming (still in text format though) |
| 12:38.46 | Wobin | omg |
| 12:38.48 | Wobin | it's a series! |
| 12:39.00 | [Ammo] | maybe he kited the mobs to vael's room |
| 12:39.05 | Wobin | Live Autopsy! |
| 12:39.12 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn 1.6 will no longer work, but they have had time to update now |
| 12:39.37 | mitch0 | vael? isn't it in BWL? |
| 12:39.44 | Wobin | he's like... sliced the bodies lengthwise! |
| 12:39.48 | Kirkburn | Why are you telling /me/ sylvanaar!? |
| 12:40.18 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn who should i tell? |
| 12:40.27 | Kirkburn | Um |
| 12:40.29 | mitch0 | [Ammoo]: can you get some more details on that chess-event-solo thing? :) |
| 12:40.36 | [Ammo] | working on it :p |
| 12:40.46 | Kirkburn | I agree though, break 1.6 |
| 12:41.09 | Kirkburn | It's been months anyway |
| 12:41.15 | Wobin | are we getting Kirkburn 1.7 then? |
| 12:41.35 | chutwig | now with 3 times more cornish pasty |
| 12:41.56 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn who can change the files script? |
| 12:41.56 | Saroz | did someone fuck with tablet fonts lately? they are all looking mighty odd to me |
| 12:42.12 | chutwig | i want a pasty :( |
| 12:42.48 | Gagorian | sylvanaar: Kaelten? |
| 12:42.51 | Kirkburn | Have I like become someone else today? |
| 12:43.09 | sylvanaar | maybe its Kaelten, too many K's |
| 12:43.23 | Kirkburn | It's not me. But I liked the attention :) |
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| 12:44.15 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: From 2/20/07, the Arcane Guardians see through stealth, making it much more difficult to stealth this event. It is not impossible, but it can only be done by a rogue with the Vanish ability, and a large amount of Limited Invulnerability Potions. It took this writer 6 hours of attempts to accomplish. |
| 12:44.35 | Stephmw | lol |
| 12:44.37 | [Ammo] | mitch0: he just did it so shrug |
| 12:44.40 | Wobin | oh man, Autopsy: Life and Death has to be one of the best medical shows I've ever seen |
| 12:44.48 | Stephmw | mitch0: linky? |
| 12:44.50 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: I believe, I just need to know how :) |
| 12:44.58 | mitch0 | Stephmw: it's on wowwiki. sec |
| 12:45.03 | mitch0 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Chess_Event |
| 12:45.15 | Stephmw | mitch0: I'm just curious to know if the reward is worth the expense :) |
| 12:45.15 | Wobin | well, invisibility isn't stealth |
| 12:45.26 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: as I'm not in the usual kara raid, I'd like to try it myself :) |
| 12:45.27 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33496 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat_Modules/Prat_Modules.toc: Prat: toc update to support automatic load on demand feature |
| 12:45.38 | Kirkburn | chutwig, for you: http://ace.pastey.net/15952 |
| 12:45.57 | chutwig | Kirkburn: :( |
| 12:45.58 | mitch0 | Wobin: ah. are there any mobs that see thru stealth but not invis? |
| 12:46.00 | sbu | hmm stealth is one thing mitch0 |
| 12:46.09 | Kirkburn | I thought that's what you wanted, chutwig :( |
| 12:46.10 | sbu | hmhm |
| 12:46.13 | chutwig | there's a shop in new york city run by an expat that makes nice pasties |
| 12:46.27 | chutwig | also they sell digestives and things like that |
| 12:46.40 | Wobin | I believe invisibility is complete content avoidance |
| 12:46.45 | Kirkburn | Hey, I just noticed a spelling error on Pastey |
| 12:46.48 | Kirkburn | "Tip: Click the line numbers to toggle highliting on that line." |
| 12:46.48 | Wobin | granted, you can't see anything else though |
| 12:46.55 | sbu | yep Wobin - since you cant see any players/mobs |
| 12:47.00 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07PratPlugin-1.0 * r33497 10Prat/PratPlugin-1.0/PratPlugin-1.0.lua: PratPlugin-1.0: delegating the RegisterFrame call to Prat |
| 12:47.01 | Wobin | but if you know where the mobs are supposed to be, it could be done |
| 12:47.04 | Kirkburn | Is "highliting" correct in the US? |
| 12:47.12 | sbu | but doesnt matter - there are no mobs in front of chess event door :o |
| 12:47.19 | sbu | need mage to test ;p |
| 12:47.31 | chutwig | i would write highlight |
| 12:47.38 | chutwig | but i don't like those stupid abbreviations |
| 12:47.40 | chutwig | like hilite or thru |
| 12:47.57 | mitch0 | thru is not an abbreviation |
| 12:48.12 | chutwig | abomination? |
| 12:49.28 | Roartindon | Is there an event triggered when a profile changes? |
| 12:49.34 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 12:49.35 | mitch0 | chutwig: it's a proper English word |
| 12:49.50 | chutwig | mitch0: it's a daniel websterism |
| 12:49.53 | Kirkburn | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thru |
| 12:50.20 | sylvanaar | you can look in aceDB for the actual event |
| 12:50.42 | sylvanaar | or see how fubar handles it |
| 12:51.06 | Roartindon | Okay.... looked in the AceDB docs and didn't se eit |
| 12:51.08 | Roartindon | will browse the source |
| 12:51.17 | Kirkburn | So what is this 3d portrait bug in 2.1? |
| 12:51.22 | sylvanaar | source > docs |
| 12:51.36 | mitch0 | 3d portraits are just hype anyway :) |
| 12:51.41 | Kirkburn | Lies! |
| 12:52.09 | sylvanaar | source code never lies |
| 12:52.34 | Kirkburn | Lies! All lies! Even stuff I wasn't referring to, still lies! |
| 12:52.42 | Pneu | ~seen nymibia |
| 12:53.16 | purl | i haven't seen 'nymibia', Pneu |
| 12:53.16 | chutwig | windows vista is destroying my will to live |
| 12:53.16 | Kirkburn | How so? |
| 12:53.20 | chutwig | i have been trying to copy this file off an smb share for about 10 minutes now |
| 12:53.46 | Fritti | smbclient? |
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| 12:54.01 | Pneu | ~seen nymbia |
| 12:54.03 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-159-27.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 44m 10s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
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| 12:54.50 | pomke | hiya |
| 12:55.00 | sylvanaar | i installed vista |
| 12:55.06 | pomke | is there any way to map macros to various mouse buttons? |
| 12:55.19 | mitch0 | quserkey? |
| 12:55.22 | chutwig | i installed it on my work laptop and i hate myself at least once a day for it |
| 12:55.22 | sylvanaar | i like it, its not giving me much trouble now that its installed |
| 12:57.02 | sylvanaar | laptops can require special drivers for thier components |
| 12:57.11 | chutwig | not a driver issue |
| 12:57.14 | chutwig | it's just... slow |
| 12:57.16 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 12:57.39 | chutwig | if i use readyboost then it feels faster again but i can't really walk around with a USB key hanging out the side of the computer |
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| 12:58.02 | sylvanaar | well, how old is your laptop |
| 12:58.13 | chutwig | uh, we got it last year |
| 12:58.13 | Pneu | anyone able to help me out with a newbie PT3 problem? |
| 12:58.25 | chutwig | thinkpad t43p |
| 12:58.56 | sylvanaar | on the whole i find my system is more responsive rather than less |
| 12:59.12 | sylvanaar | could be better use of dual-core i dont know for sure |
| 13:00.07 | sylvanaar | or better page file swapping algorithms |
| 13:00.37 | chutwig | i just kept running into endless stupid quirks that annoy the hell out of me |
| 13:00.57 | chutwig | like files refusing to copy off smb servers, or winlogon taking 20 seconds to appear when i hit ctrl-alt-del |
| 13:01.10 | Pneu | is there a MultiSetSearch() type function in PT3 that you can search for a set name in a multiset like using ItemSearch()? |
| 13:01.38 | sylvanaar | oh, i dont have those issues |
| 13:01.42 | chutwig | and i don't understand why because when i actually check the task manager to make sure i'm not thrashing the pagefile, i have plenty of physical memory free still |
| 13:02.10 | sylvanaar | sounds like a driver/configuration issue |
| 13:02.52 | chutwig | i installed everything lenovo provided, so if there's a driver issue still, it's beyond my power to fix |
| 13:02.52 | sylvanaar | 32 bit? |
| 13:03.01 | chutwig | pentium-M, pre-core duo |
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| 13:03.57 | sylvanaar | in a domain? |
| 13:04.00 | chutwig | nope |
| 13:04.21 | chutwig | its WINDOWS EXPERIENCE SCORE wasn't any worse than my desktop when i installed it on there |
| 13:05.35 | sylvanaar | still sounds like you should double check your network settings, look at event logs etc....wireless lan? |
| 13:05.45 | chutwig | about all i can hypothesize is that the laptop hard drive just isn't fast enough to keep up any more |
| 13:05.57 | chutwig | but i don't really feel like spending personal money on a work machine |
| 13:06.06 | JoshBorke | did you have problems with the smb share before installing vista? |
| 13:06.10 | chutwig | no |
| 13:06.12 | sylvanaar | partition it? defragment it? |
| 13:07.25 | CIA-11 | 03pneumatus * r33498 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot.lua: |
| 13:07.25 | CIA-11 | ClassLoot: |
| 13:07.25 | CIA-11 | - Temporary fix for Chess Event loot causing Babble errors |
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| 13:07.34 | Saroz | wtf is ClassLoot |
| 13:07.53 | sylvanaar | shrinking the system partition to the first 1/4 of the disk will make it run 2-4x faster |
| 13:08.12 | Pneu | Saroz: class based loot priorities based on wow-loot.com |
| 13:08.36 | Saroz | plate healing --> this way |
| 13:09.35 | Saroz | hrrm, maybe I could commit if UnitName(looterId) == "Saroz" then AssignAllLoot() end |
| 13:09.38 | Saroz | wonder if anyone would know |
| 13:10.21 | Pneu | you could commit that, but it would just cause an error ;) |
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| 13:10.40 | Saroz | well you get the idea :) |
| 13:10.54 | Pneu | the fun part of the addon is actually the java application i wrote to parse the wow-loot site |
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| 13:12.42 | CIA-11 | 03pneumatus * r33499 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot_Data.lua: |
| 13:12.42 | CIA-11 | ClassLoot: |
| 13:12.42 | CIA-11 | - 2 Priority updates |
| 13:13.22 | chutwig | maybe i ask it to do too much |
| 13:13.39 | kenlyric | I've never understood the purpose of that site. They never do any in-depth analysis that you couldn't do in 5 seconds looking at the loot. |
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| 13:15.06 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33500 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat_Config/ (. Prat_AutoLoD.toc autolod.lua includes.xml): Prat: The automatic load-on-demand control module. |
| 13:15.10 | Stephmw | kenlyric: it's a nice summary, leastwise for mages |
| 13:15.19 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: any news? :) |
| 13:15.30 | Stephmw | kenlyric: rather than having 10+ tabs open on different items, or a spreadsheet |
| 13:15.38 | kenlyric | well, by class it's very useful to see what loots you can use. |
| 13:15.46 | Pneu | kenlyric: a lot of people think about loot from their own class's point of view rather than comparable to what other classes can use |
| 13:16.06 | Pneu | consider caster daggers/swords/maces where only certain classes can use them |
| 13:16.16 | kenlyric | Pneu: yeah, but it's dumb in some places, and doesn't consider coequal loot in the instance. |
| 13:16.26 | kenlyric | like, it puts shadow priests with mages and locks, even on h eavy crit gear. |
| 13:17.09 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33501 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/ (Prat_AutoLoD/ Prat_Config/): Renamed remotely |
| 13:17.41 | Pneu | well, im not saying its perfect but it works as a guide, which is all it's intended for |
| 13:17.45 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33502 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: |
| 13:17.45 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 13:17.45 | CIA-11 | - Will now update all nameplates when profile changes immediately |
| 13:18.13 | [Ammo] | mitch0: seems wall jumping and invis are key |
| 13:18.37 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: is there any killing involved? how long does it take? |
| 13:18.54 | [Ammo] | that I do not know |
| 13:19.00 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: did he use only invis or pots as well? |
| 13:19.49 | [Ammo] | I'd have to ask in game which I don't have access to now |
| 13:20.25 | Pneu | shamans can't use 2h swords can they? |
| 13:20.35 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: ok. please find out as much as you can :) then pass the info along |
| 13:20.36 | Tornhoof | no swords |
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| 13:26.41 | Saroz | meeeh cba to copy thaddius shit to littlewigs for heroic mech boss |
| 13:26.52 | [Ammo] | Saroz: hehe I wanted to copy that as well :) |
| 13:26.59 | [Ammo] | got me the full log sunday |
| 13:27.11 | Saroz | copying most of thaddius should be fine |
| 13:27.23 | Saroz | cast bar, warning, etc |
| 13:27.25 | Punkie` | [Ammo]: who did chess event? |
| 13:27.35 | [Ammo] | Saturn on his mage |
| 13:27.38 | [Ammo] | check the forum :p |
| 13:27.42 | [Ammo] | (when it works |
| 13:27.44 | [Ammo] | crappy shit forum |
| 13:27.51 | Punkie` | oh yeah |
| 13:28.04 | Punkie` | a rogue can't do it |
| 13:28.09 | Punkie` | only a mage |
| 13:29.16 | Punkie` | the arcane mobs can't see through invisibility, only stealth |
| 13:29.25 | mitch0 | ah, so that's the key :) |
| 13:29.35 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33504 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat_Modules/modules/Filtering.lua: Prat: Added untested filter for battleground raid leave/join messages. It may be better to filter out the 'joined the battle' messages and replace the raid join/leave text with the battleground join/leave text. |
| 13:29.49 | Punkie` | although as a rogue, i have been able to get past them |
| 13:29.50 | mitch0 | Punkie`: but doesn't the invo pot work as well? |
| 13:30.02 | Punkie` | mitch0: they can see through vanish |
| 13:30.05 | TheKarn | ping Kaelten |
| 13:30.16 | Punkie` | they are truesight mobs |
| 13:30.25 | mitch0 | Punkie`: but can they see trhough the inisibility pot as well? |
| 13:30.28 | kenlyric | I assume the easiest way to solo chess is be in an instance where at least aran is dead. |
| 13:30.44 | Punkie` | the invisibility pot is weak |
| 13:30.49 | mitch0 | ah |
| 13:31.06 | mitch0 | will have to try this... |
| 13:31.11 | CIA-11 | 03jerry * r33505 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.toc locales/frFR.lua): Mendeleev: Added french locale. Thanks LaMaG |
| 13:31.17 | Punkie` | but yeah, i got through those mobs on my rogue though |
| 13:31.54 | kenlyric | of course, we consider chess the reward for defeating aran, and rarely leave one undone. |
| 13:31.58 | Punkie` | i had a hunter pet to pull all the mobs away and sprinted down past one mob and luckily got out of range from the mob so i could vanish |
| 13:32.14 | kenlyric | though I suppose once we start downing aran on night one, that may become an issue. |
| 13:32.25 | Punkie` | we skip aran |
| 13:32.32 | Punkie` | unless we have a lock |
| 13:32.38 | Punkie` | but we don't always have one |
| 13:33.13 | kenlyric | I don't know how you can stand to skip aran... soooo much trash. |
| 13:33.18 | mitch0 | it's funny how most WoW videos have some sort of heavy metal music :) |
| 13:33.25 | kenlyric | mitch0: or electronic! |
| 13:33.28 | Punkie` | by not wiping on the prince? :P |
| 13:33.43 | Punkie` | [Ammo]: 2phat wrote that the server is down for maintenence |
| 13:33.51 | Saroz | anyone a forum mod here? |
| 13:33.51 | kenlyric | Punkie`: yeah, but when you come back the next day, you still have to redo all of aran's trash. |
| 13:34.02 | Punkie` | or not do aran :P |
| 13:34.24 | kenlyric | but you still have to redo all of aran's trash :) |
| 13:34.33 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oyoDlV9-Ds |
| 13:34.35 | Punkie` | what for? |
| 13:34.45 | kenlyric | to get to netherspite, for one. |
| 13:34.46 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: rogue pov, but probly could be used as a starting point |
| 13:34.59 | Punkie` | eh? |
| 13:35.55 | Punkie` | we usually do, moroes, opera, chess, prince (and netherspite if we have enough time) in 1 night |
| 13:36.10 | kenlyric | and curator. |
| 13:36.14 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 13:36.22 | kenlyric | ok, fine, what about the second night? |
| 13:36.31 | Punkie` | shrug |
| 13:36.33 | kenlyric | or do you not have one? |
| 13:36.42 | Punkie` | if people want to do the optional bosses they can |
| 13:36.57 | Punkie` | but we usually do nightbane on the second night |
| 13:37.07 | Punkie` | then huntsman and maiden or something |
| 13:37.53 | Gagorian | We usually just clear everything in one night.. If all goes smooth it's 3.5hrs |
| 13:38.02 | kenlyric | ah, so you skip all the optional bosses. |
| 13:38.16 | Punkie` | yeah, they suck anyway |
| 13:38.26 | kenlyric | Gagorian: yeah... you > us |
| 13:38.46 | Punkie` | does anyone ever do the beast event? :P |
| 13:38.50 | kenlyric | meh, maiden is only the goddamn mob in the game with healing bracers. |
| 13:38.51 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33506 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/filelist.wau: Prat: wau package support |
| 13:39.28 | Punkie` | kenlyric: the loot i want rarely drops :P |
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| 13:39.57 | renchap | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.02 | renchap | oops |
| 13:40.05 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.19 | kenlyric | we've done it twice when we went that way to get to maiden. |
| 13:41.15 | kenlyric | And one time we tried skipping straight to the opera event. Damn you moroes! |
| 13:41.22 | Punkie` | haha |
| 13:41.29 | Punkie` | what happens? i never tried it |
| 13:41.54 | kenlyric | he says only the tower steward can let the show go on. |
| 13:42.06 | kenlyric | Which I guess he can't worry about if he's dead. |
| 13:44.42 | Punkie` | ah |
| 13:44.50 | Punkie` | moroes never drops my damn boots |
| 13:45.00 | Punkie` | and the prince never drops my damn malchie! |
| 13:45.05 | Punkie` | *shakes fist* |
| 13:46.02 | Gagorian | http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4537/hahahads0.jpg |
| 13:46.04 | Gagorian | fail! |
| 13:47.55 | Saroz | lol |
| 13:49.01 | Punkie` | omgomg |
| 13:49.04 | Punkie` | heroes tomorrow |
| 13:49.08 | Punkie` | omgomomg |
| 13:49.25 | Mikma | Gagorian: funny. hahahads. |
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| 13:49.56 | kenlyric | nobody ever drops my damn anything. |
| 13:50.20 | kenlyric | attumen, the first night I was there. |
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| 13:55.11 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r33507 10/trunk/a: |
| 13:55.12 | CIA-11 | a: |
| 13:55.12 | CIA-11 | - b,c,d,e? |
| 13:55.27 | Pneu | lol? |
| 13:55.45 | phyber | was just a file called 'a', left there for 2 months by kergoth |
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| 13:59.31 | Stephmw | phyber: he does it to screw with your noodle ;) |
| 14:00.36 | kenlyric | phyber: is that the thing he used to update every mod when he was fixing line endings? |
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| 14:01.29 | kenlyric | whenever I see /trunk/ and kergoth together, I immediately thing "line ending war of '07" |
| 14:01.34 | kenlyric | *think |
| 14:01.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Boris Yeltsin has just died |
| 14:02.44 | chutwig | the words "long overdue" just came to mind |
| 14:02.56 | Pneu | that news is so 5 minutes ago |
| 14:02.59 | Gagorian | I was more on the lines of 'Good Riddance' |
| 14:03.03 | bom | when I disable the addon, the fubar icon/text close too. How is it possible to disable the addon without closing the fubar things? |
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| 14:05.06 | kenlyric | yes, because his successor is *so* much better... |
| 14:05.08 | Pneu | you should be able to put it on standby without the icon dissapearing |
| 14:05.52 | sylvanaar | blizzards total addon cpu time number is so wrong still |
| 14:06.33 | mitch0 | does anyone know of an in-gamish kara map? |
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| 14:11.54 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33508 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat.lua: |
| 14:11.54 | CIA-11 | Prat: If auto LoD is enabled, we go ahead and load the Prat_Modules addon. We |
| 14:11.54 | CIA-11 | may want one more addon called Prat_ModulesAll, which would make it easier to |
| 14:11.54 | CIA-11 | enable modules which were disabled by the auto load-on-demand feature. |
| 14:12.21 | kenlyric | I have a mod that says "aggro" every time I say "aggro" but I can't figure out which one it is. |
| 14:12.28 | kenlyric | errr, every time I get aggro |
| 14:14.10 | mitch0 | hm. curse-gaming b0rks my browser |
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| 14:16.54 | kenlyric | it's a very useful feature in raids, but i want to turn it off for when I'm not in a raid :) |
| 14:17.07 | Dynom | mitch0: it's a waaaay too bloated site nyway |
| 14:17.34 | abbat_w | oops |
| 14:17.38 | mitch0 | Dynom: yeah, slow as hell even when it works :) but I'm searching for some usable karazhan map now, and I'm desperate :) |
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| 14:18.04 | Dynom | atlasmod.com ? |
| 14:18.16 | mitch0 | couldn't find kara map there |
| 14:18.33 | xyu | i hate kara maps, so confusing ; ; |
| 14:18.37 | xyu | wtb 3d maps |
| 14:20.11 | CIA-11 | 03damjau * r33509 10WhoDrop/ (5 files): WhoDrop - add data |
| 14:23.19 | mitch0 | is the karazhan backdoor entrance open on a fresh instance? |
| 14:23.51 | Killmore | need to to opera house to be able to open the back door |
| 14:23.56 | Killmore | and need to kill moroes to do opera house |
| 14:24.08 | mitch0 | hm |
| 14:24.19 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33510 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat_AutoLoD/autolod.lua: Prat: AutoLoD -> Normal transition fixes |
| 14:25.09 | mitch0 | I'm getting more and more interested in that solo chess event then ;) seems pretty hard to get there from the main entrance |
| 14:25.42 | Killmore | I dont understand how he can lag like that |
| 14:26.19 | bom | found it - thx Pneu |
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| 14:29.28 | sylvanaar | im going to make a post about the LoD system i added to Prat, im interested in getting some feedback on its usability |
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| 14:39.00 | phyber | kenlyric: don't think so. it's message in trac was just "test commit" |
| 14:39.15 | phyber | and it was just sat there, mocking everyone at the bottom of the file listing. |
| 14:39.29 | phyber | I could stand its mockery no longer! |
| 14:39.33 | phyber | also: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/070415.jpg |
| 14:39.43 | Industrial | Updatered. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7091-zQuestAutomation.html |
| 14:40.25 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5782.0 |
| 14:41.46 | Industrial | sounds nice. not judging it tho :P |
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| 14:46.10 | CIA-11 | 03bom * r33511 10Depot/Depot.lua: |
| 14:46.10 | CIA-11 | Depot |
| 14:46.10 | CIA-11 | - added hideWithoutStandby |
| 14:47.33 | apl | is there any way to duplicate unit frames in PitBull |
| 14:47.46 | apl | I want duplicates of player, target, targettarget |
| 14:47.53 | Industrial | "create new unitframe" I think? |
| 14:47.54 | apl | kind like combat display in perl |
| 14:48.03 | apl | yeah but it won't duplicate |
| 14:48.19 | apl | player frame is already there, so it won't make a new player frame |
| 14:48.48 | Industrial | well then, no. |
| 14:48.50 | Industrial | lol |
| 14:49.09 | Industrial | Why just not shove the player frame below your character? |
| 14:49.21 | Industrial | (and the others, target tot ec) |
| 14:49.23 | Industrial | etc* |
| 14:49.57 | apl | old habits die hard |
| 14:50.22 | apl | too used to having them upper left corner, I'd rather have duplicates |
| 14:51.01 | Industrial | thats so... inefficient |
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| 14:51.29 | apl | I know |
| 14:52.03 | Stephmw | Industrial: I wouldn't mind duplicate frames, for ancillary information |
| 14:52.20 | kenlyric | I'd love it for focus. |
| 14:52.41 | Stephmw | yeah, make sure everyone's got aggro on the same mob ;) |
| 14:52.42 | chutwig | the focus frame doesn't seem to want to display debuffs for me and that makes me sad |
| 14:52.49 | chutwig | because i usually use it when i'm banishing things |
| 14:53.07 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33512 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat_Modules/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Prat: added a helper addon to make auto-lod transitions more flexible |
| 14:53.08 | kenlyric | the focus frame without debuffs would be completely useless to me :) |
| 14:53.15 | apl | my focus frame seems to update sluggishly |
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| 14:53.19 | chutwig | it was broken last week for me |
| 14:53.19 | apl | debuffs and health/mana |
| 14:53.26 | chutwig | maybe i'll check the settings on it again |
| 14:53.29 | kenlyric | well, I don't use pitbull :) |
| 14:53.41 | chutwig | then your contribution to this discussion is unnecessary |
| 14:54.09 | apl | or maybe it just stops updating when I die |
| 14:54.09 | kenlyric | that's never really bothered me before. |
| 14:54.11 | apl | I always die at Aran |
| 14:54.30 | Kilroo | I intend to try Pitbull. |
| 14:54.45 | apl | pitbull looks like the way to go |
| 14:54.52 | Kilroo | Unfortunately it just occurred to me |
| 14:55.32 | Kilroo | that since I will be out of town all next weekend, I should probably wait until a week from today to start my Burning Crusade trial, if I want maximum enjoyment therefrom. |
| 14:56.31 | pastamancer | bah, who needs a focus frame |
| 14:56.40 | chutwig | who needs unit frames |
| 14:56.48 | chutwig | knowing your health is for charlatans and cowards |
| 14:56.58 | pastamancer | http://ace.pastey.net/16004 |
| 14:57.05 | chutwig | you hear me?! CHARLATANS! |
| 14:57.17 | harldephin | -.- |
| 14:57.49 | JoshBorke | i play with UIParent hidden myself |
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| 14:58.03 | pastamancer | and the sound turned off? |
| 14:58.08 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 14:58.14 | JoshBorke | like a real man |
| 14:58.18 | Stephmw | JoshBorke: it's the only way to enjoy the game as it was intended to be played. |
| 14:58.23 | Stephmw | JoshBorke: and no mouse either |
| 14:58.30 | Stephmw | JoshBorke: just keybindings |
| 14:58.33 | JoshBorke | exactly |
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| 14:58.48 | JoshBorke | of course i set it up originally with a mouse |
| 14:58.51 | apl | no button rogue |
| 14:59.11 | JoshBorke | my number pad takes care of mouse looking |
| 14:59.24 | harldephin | yea. play like a man, man. |
| 14:59.34 | JoshBorke | and no nameplates either |
| 14:59.49 | Stephmw | what's this 3rd person view people rave about anyway? |
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| 14:59.54 | Stephmw | 1st person is where it's at |
| 15:00.06 | Stephmw | team mates should be watching your back |
| 15:00.13 | harldephin | 1st person view makes me dizzy |
| 15:00.15 | apl | I play wow in 2nd person mode |
| 15:00.31 | harldephin | good one.. |
| 15:00.37 | chutwig | i see what you did there |
| 15:00.54 | Stephmw | apl: I'd love to give that one a try |
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| 15:02.26 | Kilroo | 2nd person? O.o |
| 15:03.04 | Kilroo | That would be...like...with the camera facing you from in front? |
| 15:03.21 | chutwig | a lakitu brother follows you around on his floating cloud |
| 15:03.29 | Stephmw | Kilroo: adds that bit of spice for boss encounters |
| 15:03.57 | Kilroo | I think it would take me a couple days to get used to steering. |
| 15:04.12 | apl | well, I actually dunno how that would work out for me as a priest |
| 15:04.22 | Stephmw | after a few raid wipes, you'd learn, for sure |
| 15:04.26 | apl | would 2nd person always be a mob or would my camera bounce to the people I heal |
| 15:04.37 | Kilroo | Raid? |
| 15:04.44 | Kilroo | Pfft. |
| 15:04.50 | Stephmw | Kilroo: no sense trying this out outside a proper encounter |
| 15:05.04 | Kilroo | I don't raid. |
| 15:05.29 | apl | as a matter of fact, as a priest I can actually do it |
| 15:05.38 | apl | too bad I can't do anything else though |
| 15:05.41 | Stephmw | you're missing so much fun. I mean, imagine being the single reason 39 other people have wasted their past 8 hours? |
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| 15:06.17 | harldephin | actually, there's no difference between 1st and 2nd person's view in a game with only one player and one PC (player('s) character). |
| 15:06.25 | Stephmw | talking of wasting time... what's a good group makeup for SL? |
| 15:06.45 | apl | tank + healer + 3dps |
| 15:07.19 | Stephmw | figures. went there for the first time on Friday... 2 tanks, healer, 2 dps |
| 15:07.23 | Stephmw | shambles |
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| 15:07.51 | trh | Stephmw: 1 tank, 1 pala, 1 druid (feral), 2 ranged dd (1 mage) |
| 15:07.52 | pastamancer | what would you do with 2 tanks?! |
| 15:07.57 | Stephmw | I need to gear up in greys... repairing blues and epics just makes baby spiderling cry |
| 15:08.18 | Stephmw | pastamancer: I was the pickup... god knows why they went 2 tanks |
| 15:08.32 | Stephmw | pastamancer: one fury, one prot |
| 15:08.51 | Saroz | self:Print(L["Depot loaded successfully!"]) |
| 15:08.53 | Saroz | ewwwwwwwwww |
| 15:09.02 | pastamancer | Stephmw: my ideal group for just about anything is a bear, a shaman, 2 warlocks, and a shadow priest |
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| 15:09.51 | Stephmw | pastamancer: my usual 4-man is: prot war, druid, shammy, mage (me) and a pickup |
| 15:10.13 | harldephin | wth.. just grab a party and "shoot the cow".. have fun and stuff.. all the other things don't really matter :) |
| 15:10.16 | Stephmw | ... hmm, that makes 5.. you get the idea :) |
| 15:11.08 | pastamancer | which one's the healer, the shaman? |
| 15:11.35 | Stephmw | the druid, the shaman just tops up if there's spread aggro |
| 15:11.56 | Stephmw | it's fairly rare that the warrior loses aggro |
| 15:11.58 | kenlyric | here's a group for you ... my friend was in a group. Ret Pally, Enh shaman with a shield, hunter, mage, him (shadow priest) |
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| 15:13.14 | kenlyric | he did more healing with VE than the pally did in healing + damage combined. |
| 15:13.19 | Stephmw | ;) |
| 15:13.34 | pastamancer | haha |
| 15:13.48 | kenlyric | and apparently, according to him, a shaman cannot hold aggro from a 1100 shadow damage priest. |
| 15:14.01 | kenlyric | I tried to tell him that just because they can hold shields doesn't mean they are a tank. |
| 15:14.04 | Stephmw | pastamancer: oh, shammy is enhancement, druid is feral/resto |
| 15:14.19 | pastamancer | the only thing that can hold aggro off a 1100 damage shadow priest is a 1200 damage shadow priest ;) |
| 15:14.44 | Stephmw | meh, aggro control shouldn't be just a case of better tankage |
| 15:15.03 | Stephmw | dps classes need to ease up as well |
| 15:15.12 | pastamancer | I've been staying out of shadow form more and more often |
| 15:15.48 | pastamancer | tossing a couple of renews and PoMs around |
| 15:16.08 | pastamancer | then going back to sitting on my mind flay button and keeping a close eye on ktm |
| 15:18.25 | kenlyric | Stephmw: when it's a shaman tank, there's no such thing as "better tankage" :) |
| 15:18.43 | Jens | Does anyone know if JPG screenshotting and be disabled in 2.1? |
| 15:18.55 | kenlyric | disabled? |
| 15:19.02 | kenlyric | uh, "don't hit screenshot button" |
| 15:19.08 | Jens | Like... capture to lossless format intead. |
| 15:19.19 | Jens | Like it used to. |
| 15:19.24 | kenlyric | not that anyone has mentioned. |
| 15:19.31 | Arrowmaster | yes theres a post on the eu ui forums |
| 15:19.38 | Jens | Before incompetent people whined at Blizzard because they don't know how to convert file formants. |
| 15:19.40 | Jens | -n |
| 15:20.04 | Arrowmaster | they should have fucking add png support too |
| 15:20.05 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33513 10BigWigs_RespawnTimers/BigWigs_RespawnTimers.lua: BigWigs_RespawnTimers: Don't print about Incubator if it's already installed. |
| 15:20.10 | Jens | Arrowmaster: Yea. |
| 15:20.18 | trh | Jens: i'm not sure, but you might be able to change it back to TGA through a CVar |
| 15:20.26 | Arrowmaster | you can trh |
| 15:20.27 | kenlyric | it should just be png. |
| 15:20.34 | kenlyric | works on every platform, no conversion needed. |
| 15:20.34 | Jens | I made convoluted CMD scripts to auto convert all files in screenshot dir to PNG files. |
| 15:20.40 | pastamancer | kenlyric: png is for hippies! |
| 15:20.59 | trh | kenlyric: true.. png would be the best.. but i guess there are too many newbie user who doesn't know what that is |
| 15:21.15 | kenlyric | they don't have to know what it is. |
| 15:21.22 | trh | and in 90% of the cases jpg is clearly better thatn 4mb tga's |
| 15:21.39 | Jens | Doesn't Windows support PNG files by now? Like with stupid default image viewer? |
| 15:21.48 | kenlyric | yes, it does. |
| 15:21.50 | pastamancer | as of XP I believe so |
| 15:21.52 | Jens | All software on the planet supports PNG by now. |
| 15:22.03 | trh | Jens: there are stil people using windows 2k for wow.. guaranteed |
| 15:22.10 | kenlyric | fuck those people |
| 15:22.24 | Jens | What kenlyric said. |
| 15:22.33 | trh | what's the problem if blizzard gives you the choice what you want to have it saved in |
| 15:22.41 | Jens | I love it when Windows 98 people whine about random programs not working. |
| 15:22.41 | trh | cry about losing the default error frame :( |
| 15:22.43 | kenlyric | my job is computer security, so I feel well qualified to say "fuck those people" |
| 15:22.55 | Jens | Fortunately lots of developers are starting to drop Win9x support by now. |
| 15:22.57 | kenlyric | trh: that's perfect then. |
| 15:23.02 | pastamancer | not even microsoft supports 2k anymore |
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| 15:23.19 | Jens | It's in extended support or something, no? |
| 15:23.33 | trh | well.. win9x is surely outdated |
| 15:23.38 | Jens | Which basically means "unless you give us lots of money, we don't give a shit". |
| 15:23.55 | trh | but i don't see big internal changes between 2k up to vista... well.. vista got the wpf but thats about it |
| 15:23.55 | pastamancer | I guess if you have a corporate contract. I had to roll my own DST update for the W2K servers I still have to keep running. |
| 15:24.12 | trh | so there's no big reason to change to xp or vista if you got a nice running 2k |
| 15:24.25 | Jens | That depends. |
| 15:24.34 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=276788003&postId=2767731283&sid=1#0 |
| 15:24.39 | kenlyric | trh: only if you want your 2k server to not be on the internet. |
| 15:24.41 | Arrowmaster | thats how to change screenshot format |
| 15:25.12 | trh | kenlyric: who wants a windows server on the internet anyway? |
| 15:25.32 | Jens | trh: Eh... lots of people? |
| 15:25.36 | Arrowmaster | somebody that doesnt want there server for very long |
| 15:25.50 | kenlyric | far, far too many people. |
| 15:25.51 | trh | Jens: yeah.. people are stupid.. thats the source of most problems ;) |
| 15:25.58 | Jens | trh: Thanks. |
| 15:26.36 | trh | Jens: it doesnt matter how good you're at making idiot-proof software, the idiots *always* find their ways.. they are just so damn creative |
| 15:26.55 | Jens | That's called QA. |
| 15:27.44 | kenlyric | people get all bent out of shape because microsoft won't patch win2k, as if apple patches os9 or 10.1... |
| 15:28.01 | kenlyric | stupid people are far better at QA then QA folks could ever hope to me. |
| 15:28.16 | kenlyric | *be |
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| 15:30.15 | trh | uh.. klhthreatmeter eats ALOT of performance... after startup like 1second of cputime... what the hell does it do? |
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| 15:31.25 | kenlyric | trh: very nearly the same thing that sw_stats does. |
| 15:31.30 | Stephmw | shared code perhaps? |
| 15:31.45 | kenlyric | unfortunately not :) |
| 15:31.58 | trh | ya.. ace2 is at the top of the cpu time ;) |
| 15:32.13 | trh | but i guess thats normal bc i use many ace2 addons ;) |
| 15:32.15 | Arrowmaster | still? |
| 15:32.35 | kenlyric | i wish ktm would track pets. |
| 15:32.40 | trh | ace2 is 10s, klh 5s and so on ;) |
| 15:32.44 | kenlyric | I'd love to use it to watchh the aggro dynamic on my hunter. |
| 15:32.47 | trh | kenlyric: it does? |
| 15:33.41 | trh | kenlyric: not very good.. but id does ,) |
| 15:33.56 | kenlyric | it tracks hunter pets now? that's new. |
| 15:34.00 | undu | Yep. |
| 15:34.05 | trh | kenlyric: at least my owl appears in the aggro list |
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| 15:34.11 | trh | kenlyric: but its very inaccurate |
| 15:34.19 | trh | kenlyric: especially with growl and the owl AE-debugg |
| 15:34.26 | kenlyric | is your combat log range turned up? |
| 15:34.26 | trh | s/debugg/debuff/ |
| 15:34.47 | Amian | hmm current versions work quite accurate for me |
| 15:35.00 | Amian | pet passes blue agro gain line MT looses agro |
| 15:35.01 | trh | kenlyric: yep |
| 15:35.10 | trh | kenlyric: but only the creature log and death log |
| 15:35.17 | kenlyric | thing I hate worse right now is that my shooting range is 35 yards but my draenei buff is only 30 yards. |
| 15:35.26 | kenlyric | they should up that shiznit to 40 yards. |
| 15:35.48 | trh | kenlyric: luckily i clicked the right butteon called "horde" on char creation :P |
| 15:36.00 | kenlyric | I have several of those too. |
| 15:36.02 | Amian | m000h ? :) |
| 15:36.14 | kenlyric | no, orc4life for hunters. |
| 15:36.15 | trh | Amian: Orcs smash!!! uh... shiny! ;) |
| 15:36.22 | trh | ya <3 orcs |
| 15:36.45 | Amian | thought u refer to the 1yard longer range from taurens ;) |
| 15:37.15 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33514 10Aloft/ (13 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:37.15 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 15:37.15 | CIA-11 | - Tidy up and rearrangement of aceoptions data tables |
| 15:37.21 | trh | ya.. but the 1yd more range isn't that much when they always get targetted first/Fastest due to size |
| 15:37.39 | Amian | ^^ |
| 15:37.45 | kenlyric | meh, now you're talking alien language. |
| 15:37.46 | Amian | though it might rock in pve |
| 15:38.11 | trh | Amian: druid taurens rock... the racial stun holds exactly long enough for a regrowth |
| 15:38.21 | kenlyric | nah, extra yardage is no help in solo pve, and group pve you don't gain anything beyond 40 yards. |
| 15:38.50 | Amian | ken> disagree for group |
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| 15:42.45 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 15:43.03 | Kirkburn|afk | A little update: currently the poll shows 6 shakers and 2 dabbers! |
| 15:43.11 | nevcairiel | oh my |
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| 15:43.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Vote vote vote! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5778.0 |
| 15:44.56 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: i don't even know what's a dabber and a shaker in restroom terms? |
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| 15:44.59 | Tornhoof | me neither |
| 15:45.06 | Kirkburn|afk | If you're a man, you really really should |
| 15:45.31 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: english isn't my native language =) |
| 15:45.32 | Kirkburn|afk | *wink, wink, nudge nudge* |
| 15:45.35 | ilifin | I'd say non-americans wouldn't know |
| 15:45.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Non-english people, perhaps |
| 15:45.52 | ilifin | or well non-english native speakers |
| 15:46.01 | trh | and you never see restroom scenes in series so they don't use these words too ;) |
| 15:46.12 | ilifin | I reckon house does |
| 15:46.18 | Tornhoof | so what are they? |
| 15:46.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Uh ... actions |
| 15:46.35 | trh | i imagine shaking meaning to shake the penis to get the rest pee out of it |
| 15:46.40 | trh | but dabber.. no clue |
| 15:46.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Using toilet paper >.< |
| 15:47.00 | Tornhoof | trh, dabber is nen wattebausch ;) |
| 15:47.25 | trh | oh... why in the hell would anyone would shake toilet paper? |
| 15:47.32 | Kirkburn|afk | I was so hoping to kinda skirt the graphic descriptions :P |
| 15:47.33 | trh | -1x would |
| 15:47.42 | kenlyric | I know what a shaker is... i don't know what a dabber is. |
| 15:47.56 | kenlyric | yeah, if you're a girl. |
| 15:47.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Look up "to dab"? |
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| 15:48.18 | Punkie` | rofl |
| 15:48.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Argh, I feel so stupid trying explain this |
| 15:48.23 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 15:48.33 | kenlyric | it's "shake" or "not shake". There is no dab. |
| 15:48.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Eww, not shake? |
| 15:48.49 | doktoreas | i noticed that in bigwigs (curator boss) there is the option for proximity check |
| 15:48.50 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: you forced it with that thread :P |
| 15:48.57 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 15:48.57 | doktoreas | should the player have all bigwigs to use that? |
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| 15:49.01 | Punkie` | this discussion is worrying |
| 15:49.20 | trh | Punkie`: could be worse |
| 15:49.21 | Punkie` | doktoreas: no, but you do need a heavy netherweave bandage ;) |
| 15:49.28 | hyperChipmunk | i can't find the option for Wringing |
| 15:49.32 | doktoreas | hi punkie :D |
| 15:49.38 | Punkie` | hello |
| 15:49.58 | doktoreas | can the window be show as "test" ? |
| 15:50.10 | doktoreas | so it will not pop up over my healbot :D |
| 15:50.23 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: maybe you should add the question of how many layered toilet paper the people use :) |
| 15:50.36 | Punkie` | I don't think it can, no. |
| 15:50.58 | Punkie` | You can drag it when in combat, takes 1 second ;P |
| 15:51.03 | Kilroo | Dude what is with this ckknight person? Just going around making pwntastic modular Ace versions of widely-used addons or what? FuBar, and apparently this Cartographer thing while I was away, and now this PitBull business which I should really look up how the heck it got named that... |
| 15:51.22 | Kilroo | Unless it was sorta named for Watchdog... |
| 15:51.22 | doktoreas | Punkie`, oki |
| 15:51.31 | Funkeh` | Punkie` 5 man support!!! |
| 15:51.39 | trh | Kilroo: got too much time... prolly ;) |
| 15:51.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Kilroo, god knows, I think he's wrong in the head |
| 15:51.45 | doktoreas | cause i tried it with a friend of mine, switching to raid and enabled curator |
| 15:51.55 | Punkie` | oh yeah, doktoreas, bigwigs has party support babeh! |
| 15:51.59 | doktoreas | but no win appear also if we were near |
| 15:52.00 | Kilroo | Come to think of it, I could just about swear I remember that ckknight USED Watchdog the last time I was actually playing. |
| 15:52.09 | Punkie` | doktoreas; it only shows in combat |
| 15:52.09 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:52.12 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33515 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:52.12 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Outland/Maulgar: |
| 15:52.12 | CIA-11 | - update deDE |
| 15:52.39 | doktoreas | Punkie`, ohh thx |
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| 15:53.53 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33516 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Prat: Added better feedback from the auto LoD code. Working module Prat_Modules_AutoLoD which loads the unloaded modules when you disable the auto LoD feature without requiring a reload ui. |
| 15:53.56 | Kirkburn|afk | kenlyric, given your comment, I have added a new option to the poll :) http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5778.0 |
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| 15:55.17 | kenlyric | Kirkburn|afk: I'm quite confused what either could accomplish. |
| 15:55.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Less, er, dribbling |
| 15:55.35 | Tornhoof | no leaking ;) |
| 15:55.40 | hyperChipmunk | still no wringing? |
| 15:55.48 | Kirkburn|afk | >.< |
| 15:56.06 | kenlyric | well, obviously you have to adapt for dribbling, but I haven't found shaking to be remarkably more efficient than just waiting for it. |
| 15:56.20 | kenlyric | dabbing would be, but again, I'm not a girl. |
| 15:57.00 | CIA-11 | 03jjsheets * r33517 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - Macro Icon update, Blizzard macros that are not assigned the Questionmark icon now correctly use the chosen Icon, regardless. Also a potential fix for macros not showing the right icon for /petattack, etc. |
| 15:57.03 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: repeated quick compressions of the entire urethra? That's certainly the fun way of doing it. |
| 15:57.22 | Kirkburn|afk | I decided against adding "I hit it with a rolling pin" |
| 15:57.34 | kenlyric | tie a string around it. |
| 15:57.48 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: grabbing with both hands and twisting in opposite directions |
| 15:58.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Sickening, just sickening |
| 15:58.10 | kenlyric | two-handed? very impressive. What's your number? |
| 15:58.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Small hands |
| 15:58.21 | JJSheets | hmmmm.... I think I want to log off for about an hour with this conversation... |
| 15:58.24 | doktoreas | Punkie`, are you a bigwigs dev? |
| 15:58.28 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: oh no you don't |
| 15:58.52 | kenlyric | an hour? |
| 15:58.53 | Kirkburn|afk | He's going to test the different methods, obviously |
| 15:58.57 | kenlyric | I find that highly unlikely. |
| 15:59.00 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33518 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Prat: Fixed needlessly complex nesting |
| 15:59.27 | Punkie` | doktoreas: no, if you want a dev ask Ammo, vhaarr or Funkeh` |
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| 15:59.55 | Herio | howdy yall |
| 16:00.02 | Ominous | sylvannar: that version wont work 2.0 right? |
| 16:00.03 | Punkie` | hello cowboy |
| 16:00.10 | kenlyric | man, people who think wasting paper has anything to do with global warming are just dumb. |
| 16:00.14 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, is there a reason you don't want me logging off. :p |
| 16:00.24 | Funkeh` | Ominous: it should |
| 16:00.29 | kenlyric | we plant *so many trees* just for the paper industry it's not even funny. |
| 16:00.31 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i'm gonna try making this addon less suck here |
| 16:00.31 | trh | kenlyric: depends on how the paper is bleached ;) |
| 16:00.32 | sylvanaar | Ominous it might |
| 16:00.34 | *** part/#wowace Ominous_ (i=HydraIRC@85-210-184-158.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 16:00.41 | Ominous | ok |
| 16:00.44 | Funkeh` | Ominous: theres been no major api changes in 2.1 that prat would have changed to afaik |
| 16:00.45 | JJSheets | this addon being InfiniBar? :) |
| 16:00.48 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
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| 16:01.06 | sylvanaar | its 2.1 due to the embedded profiling library |
| 16:01.11 | JJSheets | well cool... at least the topic isn't driblling and ways to stop it. :p |
| 16:01.15 | kenlyric | it's like people who don't like natural christmas trees because zomg you're cutting down a treee. A tree that was planted just for htat purpose. A tree that lived for several years without being cut down. Dumbasses. |
| 16:01.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Just don't get really bleached toilet paper. Apart from that, I don't see the problem. |
| 16:01.45 | pastamancer | I make sure all of my napkins and toilet paper are made out of old-growth hardwoods! |
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| 16:01.52 | trh | kenlyric: i love those people complaining about electro smog and how bad these antennas with their radiation and stuff are... and pull out their cellular in the next minute |
| 16:02.02 | Kirkburn|afk | You hardly hear many investigative reports about the destruction of the rainforest from all these damn toilet paper people :/ |
| 16:02.20 | JJSheets | I chop down perfectly good trees just to see namby pamby do gooder tree huggin hippies shed tears. |
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| 16:03.33 | Kirkburn|afk | "Namby pamby", how very British :P |
| 16:03.51 | JJSheets | funny... I don't feel British... |
| 16:04.00 | sylvanaar | there now everyone can have thier own custom chat mod collection without loading any of the modules they arent using, and without having to manually delete teh files. Now who could complain about that. Lets wait and see... |
| 16:04.01 | JJSheets | :) |
| 16:04.12 | Kirkburn|afk | How about now? |
| 16:04.17 | JJSheets | lol |
| 16:04.26 | Herio | lol plastic trees are worse for the enviroment |
| 16:04.48 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: got expo up; what was it you recommended daing? |
| 16:05.23 | Herio | just like how hybrids are worse for the enviroment unless used for 8 years or some such :O |
| 16:05.25 | Kirkburn|afk | We-ell, I find anthrax and plutonium trees to be even worse than them |
| 16:05.32 | JJSheets | enable the profiler module (right click Expo Icon > Modules > Profiler) |
| 16:05.41 | JJSheets | Detach the tooltip too |
| 16:05.56 | sylvanaar | Ominous you can prolly run it on live, you might get an error or 2 from the profiling library |
| 16:05.58 | hyperChipmunk | yep, done both already |
| 16:06.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Did you know that you should buy drinks in plastic bottles over those in cans? Way, WAY less energy used |
| 16:06.22 | JJSheets | click the Configure line under profiler in the tooltip, then put the following Namespaces in: |
| 16:06.46 | JJSheets | InfiniBar and AceLibrary("IBInfiniBar-1.0").prototype |
| 16:06.50 | Kirkburn|afk | For most soft drinks the can takes something like 10 times the amount of energy to make the can than the drink itself |
| 16:07.02 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: they tell the same here.. except with glass bottles over plastic bottles=) |
| 16:07.06 | yacoob | useless fact of the day? |
| 16:07.10 | JJSheets | You may also want to set it to sort by time/call or memory/call. |
| 16:07.31 | Herio | glass is classier anyhow =P |
| 16:07.32 | Kirkburn|afk | yacoob, useless? Nevah! |
| 16:07.52 | yacoob | I said 'useless'? Oh, i meant 'Awesome'. |
| 16:07.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Thought so |
| 16:08.04 | Herio | which kind of grocery bag is better... paper or plastic? |
| 16:08.08 | Kirkburn|afk | What a silly mistake to make |
| 16:08.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, paper |
| 16:08.20 | trh | Herio: and who could resist a nice glass-bottle like that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Afri-cola_1968.jpg =) |
| 16:08.24 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: this is beautiful |
| 16:08.29 | JJSheets | awwwww |
| 16:08.43 | Herio | WRONG: canvas |
| 16:08.51 | hyperChipmunk | is there a way to zero it out, besides reloadui |
| 16:08.54 | Herio | get your own canvas grocery bags and reuse em =P |
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| 16:09.02 | hyperChipmunk | n/m i see it |
| 16:09.05 | JJSheets | yeah, Configure > Clear Data. |
| 16:09.07 | JJSheets | lol |
| 16:09.12 | hyperChipmunk | wait |
| 16:09.12 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 16:09.18 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't do anything |
| 16:09.25 | JJSheets | it ought to. :p |
| 16:09.31 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't, retard |
| 16:09.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Argh, music is straying dangerously close to Stupid Disco |
| 16:09.46 | Herio | music? |
| 16:09.49 | Herio | stupid disco? |
| 16:09.54 | JJSheets | I'm not retarded, I'm Special. |
| 16:10.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Wot I'm listening to right now |
| 16:10.00 | kenlyric | Herio: you can't claim a response is incorrect if you fail to give all the options. |
| 16:10.07 | Herio | www.bigdandthekidstable.com |
| 16:10.11 | hyperChipmunk | if i spam-click it works |
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| 16:10.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Stupid Disco mostly involves the destruction of classic 80s tunes by redoing them for clubs |
| 16:10.29 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, Clearing the data doesn't make it stop collecting new data, hyperChipmunk |
| 16:10.36 | Amadeo | My aunt needs a new cheap computer, I wonder if I should just build her one |
| 16:10.40 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 16:10.57 | *** part/#wowace zac (n=zac@adium/zacw) |
| 16:11.04 | hyperChipmunk | apparently one of your functions just happens to run like 14000 times per second |
| 16:11.16 | Herio | Amadeo: wait until dell puts something on clearance for rediculously cheap =) |
| 16:11.17 | JJSheets | it shouldn't... which one is it? |
| 16:11.19 | JJSheets | lol |
| 16:11.30 | trh | Amadeo: get a cheap dell or sth. similar.. costs you less than 400 bucks (without screen) |
| 16:11.40 | Amadeo | Yeah, that's my other option |
| 16:11.43 | Amadeo | probably better for me |
| 16:11.48 | Amadeo | if something breaks I won't have to be Tech Support |
| 16:11.49 | hyperChipmunk | GetButtonEffectiveState |
| 16:11.55 | JJSheets | oh wait... I think that was sarcasm from hyperChipmunk... amazing... |
| 16:12.02 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 16:12.12 | hyperChipmunk | i disbelieve |
| 16:12.13 | trh | Amadeo: ya.. except if you want to use old parts you have lieing around.. then self-made would be maybe better |
| 16:12.15 | sylvanaar | JJSheets i love expo by the way |
| 16:12.22 | JJSheets | sylvanaar, thank you :) |
| 16:12.48 | hyperChipmunk | needs field sorting! |
| 16:12.52 | sylvanaar | JJSheets how accurate are the per function memory numbers |
| 16:12.57 | Amadeo | trh: The sad truth is that the only old parts I have are running my PC :( |
| 16:12.58 | JJSheets | field sorting? |
| 16:13.03 | hyperChipmunk | seriously, if these numbers are correct, this is golden |
| 16:13.12 | trh | Amadeo: a true tragedy! |
| 16:13.32 | JJSheets | sylvanaar, pretty damn close... the entire profiling code is based off of the code from PitBull. |
| 16:13.33 | hyperChipmunk | yea, like 'click the Time/Call header to sort by that field' |
| 16:13.44 | Herio | i've always thought that bigwigs needed a way to display static data |
| 16:13.54 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, you can sort in the configure dropdown. |
| 16:13.59 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 16:14.04 | hyperChipmunk | dup |
| 16:14.05 | hyperChipmunk | dur |
| 16:14.08 | sylvanaar | hmm, well, i'd add some heirarchy - like put modules in a subtree |
| 16:14.10 | hyperChipmunk | don't mind me |
| 16:14.13 | hyperChipmunk | i just woke up |
| 16:14.14 | Fisker- | btw sylvanaar !1 |
| 16:14.16 | Herio | eg something that wasn't a timerbar or a flashed warning |
| 16:14.17 | JJSheets | I'd do it on the line itself, but tablet won't let me. :p |
| 16:14.24 | hyperChipmunk | yea i know |
| 16:14.35 | hyperChipmunk | that's why i was gonna needle you about it |
| 16:14.36 | JJSheets | of course... I could make then line rotate through the sorts.... |
| 16:14.38 | Fisker- | Isn't there a way to make tab-completion only apply for guildies and friends that are online? Or is that too much slavery and death? |
| 16:14.45 | JJSheets | there's an idea... |
| 16:14.47 | sylvanaar | you should also set .clickableTooltip |
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| 16:15.04 | hyperChipmunk | yea, and color the sorted heading white or something |
| 16:15.08 | hyperChipmunk | ...oh wait |
| 16:15.17 | hyperChipmunk | yea, don't mind me |
| 16:15.22 | JJSheets | sylvanaar, thanks... I'd forgotten all about that. |
| 16:17.21 | sylvanaar | there is a crayon-like utility code in prat/extras/util.lua that makes coloring a snap you are welcome to use it copy/paste |
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| 16:20.54 | Fisker- | argh |
| 16:21.02 | Fisker- | who is in my pitbulls adding reputation barz_ |
| 16:21.07 | Fisker- | ? |
| 16:21.24 | JJSheets | Fisker-, lol ckknight added it from a post in the forum. |
| 16:21.37 | JJSheets | it's real easy to disable. :p |
| 16:22.08 | Amadeo | Old school TM raid - http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9452/defiledchurchvp5.jpg |
| 16:23.32 | Roartindon | wooo.. minigroup ftw |
| 16:23.54 | Amadeo | I miss the old MG :) |
| 16:23.57 | JJSheets | imagine that screenshot spammed with Aloft bars. |
| 16:24.10 | Roartindon | jjsheets: Heh.. yeah :) |
| 16:24.25 | Fisker- | well atleast it's > ag_uf rep bar |
| 16:24.29 | Fisker- | btw sylvanaar QQ? |
| 16:25.00 | Amadeo | I think I have an Undercity raid screenshot from back then also |
| 16:25.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Old skool! |
| 16:25.09 | CIA-11 | 03jjsheets * r33519 10Expo/ (Expo.lua modules/Profiler.lua): Expo - Non-detached Tooltip is now clickable like it should've been all along. Also, Profiler headings can be clicked on to cycle through the columns for sorting. |
| 16:25.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Or in fact Ye Olde Skoole |
| 16:25.43 | Herio | my guild is planning on doing a town raid day some time soon |
| 16:25.55 | Amadeo | old WoW was so much fun |
| 16:25.57 | Herio | because DKs have been gone for so long |
| 16:26.02 | Amadeo | http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1668/undercityalliancedjq5.jpg |
| 16:26.04 | Amadeo | there's an old one |
| 16:26.17 | Amadeo | You can tell it's old because I have no PvP trinket :P |
| 16:26.23 | Amadeo | they didn't exist |
| 16:26.25 | Herio | we're gonna do a whirlwind tour going from thrall, to TB, to UC, maybe rexxar :O |
| 16:26.55 | Amadeo | Those were my favorite unit frames |
| 16:28.26 | Amadeo | I dunno if you can still do this or not, but I used to take trips to Org a lot |
| 16:28.27 | Amadeo | http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4705/sleepingwenemynr4.jpg |
| 16:28.38 | Amadeo | Not dead, just laying there :P |
| 16:31.29 | Herio | http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4705/sleepingwenemynr4.jpg |
| 16:31.35 | Herio | oops |
| 16:31.36 | Herio | haha |
| 16:31.45 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 16:32.03 | Amadeo | PvE server days, it was a rule that you had to hug people |
| 16:32.05 | Amadeo | ! |
| 16:32.09 | Elkano | Expo doesn't have any use in 2.0.x, does it? |
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| 16:32.38 | JJSheets | Elkano, yes it does. Cause it works perfectly in there. I am not using Blizzard's profiling functions. |
| 16:33.02 | JJSheets | matter of fact I've yet to get on to nor download anything for the PTR. |
| 16:33.15 | nevcairiel | and why did no one actually invent something like that before? |
| 16:33.22 | Amadeo | Someone should make a MiniGroup layout for PitBull...and I mean the old MiniGroup :P |
| 16:33.41 | Herio | MiniGroup? |
| 16:33.50 | Elkano | hmmm... *loading* |
| 16:33.53 | Amadeo | the unit frames in those screenshots |
| 16:34.06 | Herio | looks ugly |
| 16:34.09 | Herio | no |
| 16:34.10 | Herio | fuck ugly |
| 16:34.15 | renchap | i have made a little post about a new project http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5783.0 . thats a php library to get access to wow items/characters/... . I hope some of you will be interested :) |
| 16:35.02 | Amadeo | Herio: best ever! |
| 16:35.10 | Stephmw | Herio: agreed, but there is something to be said for a minimalistic layout |
| 16:36.02 | Stephmw | for instance, I like my playerframe to actually be part of the party frame |
| 16:36.10 | Stephmw | (or to look that way anyway) |
| 16:37.02 | Herio | eh |
| 16:38.22 | Herio | i like the way ABF has the bars take up the maximum space :O |
| 16:38.22 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: it's in CDUpdate; isolating further now |
| 16:38.22 | Killmore | thx wowace for my great UI http://www.invictuswow.com/pics/killmore_ui.jpg |
| 16:38.22 | Killmore | :D |
| 16:39.09 | Gagorian | Looks a bit weird! |
| 16:39.15 | Elkano | crappy UI since on the first look it only uses one of my addons ;) |
| 16:39.17 | Ordog | looks terrible :) |
| 16:39.43 | Chompers | i dont see ebbs in that picture :O |
| 16:39.47 | Ordog | but at least it seems useable, seen worse ^^ |
| 16:39.56 | Roartindon | I don' see Aloft either :P |
| 16:40.27 | JJSheets | Elkano, lol |
| 16:40.28 | Chompers | :O |
| 16:40.58 | Killmore | I just turn on the "config" mode of pitbull for the ss |
| 16:42.15 | Herio | elkano: you write mroe then 1 addon? o.o |
| 16:42.27 | Killmore | Elkano which addon ? |
| 16:42.34 | Elkano | you use FactionsFu |
| 16:43.05 | Chompers | hes no one trick pony |
| 16:43.24 | Elkano | Herio, I was even the first one to show quest levels in gossip ^^ |
| 16:44.01 | Killmore | Elkano: ok, then I will use something else... :P |
| 16:45.12 | Gagorian | At least you use all my addons! |
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| 16:45.29 | vhaarr | Where "all" == 1? :p |
| 16:45.34 | JJSheets | lol |
| 16:45.34 | Gagorian | Yes |
| 16:45.43 | Gagorian | But that's good enough! |
| 16:45.46 | vhaarr | :D |
| 16:45.48 | CIA-11 | 03borlox * r33520 10Privacy2/ (. Core.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua Privacy2.toc): |
| 16:45.48 | CIA-11 | Privacy2: |
| 16:45.48 | CIA-11 | -Fixed a typo |
| 16:45.48 | CIA-11 | -Changed authors for wiki page |
| 16:45.53 | Killmore | Gagorian: which ? :P |
| 16:46.05 | Gagorian | Those pretty numbers on the buttons :p |
| 16:46.17 | Killmore | drdamage! |
| 16:46.39 | Gagorian | In-deed. |
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| 16:48.12 | Herio | everyone go use cartographer_mailboxes |
| 16:48.17 | Herio | cause it's soooooo gooood |
| 16:48.28 | Jens | What is it? |
| 16:49.23 | Killmore | see mailboxes on the map ? |
| 16:49.23 | Herio | guess =P |
| 16:49.24 | trh | does it record mailbox positions... i mean.. i know where the mailboxes are... =) |
| 16:49.52 | trh | what i'd really need is a cartographer_stablemastersAndFoodVendors ;) |
| 16:49.55 | sbu | WAH where is nymbia |
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| 16:50.00 | Fisker- | btw renchap |
| 16:50.07 | Fisker- | your idea is made of ass and fail |
| 16:50.12 | Fisker- | In more serious matters though |
| 16:50.19 | Fisker- | Do you have any examples up and running yet? |
| 16:50.21 | sylvanaar | where is pitbulls profiling code? |
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| 16:50.37 | renchap | Fisker-: there is some test scripts on the svn |
| 16:51.17 | JJSheets | sylvanaar, bottom of PitBull.lua |
| 16:51.24 | renchap | but thats now usable atm (we need to add handle all stats, and thats a lot of work) |
| 16:52.01 | Kilroo | You know what would be peculiar? |
| 16:52.09 | Fisker- | ah ok :( |
| 16:52.09 | sylvanaar | oh, i see |
| 16:52.17 | sylvanaar | it instruments the functions |
| 16:52.18 | Kilroo | A totalitarian meritocracy. |
| 16:52.22 | Fisker- | btw |
| 16:52.26 | Chompers | badgers fighting squirrels |
| 16:52.34 | Herio | i'm out of hear |
| 16:52.39 | Fisker- | Anyone having problems with pitbull constantly showing members whole model instead of only the head-area? |
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| 16:52.52 | Herio | HERE |
| 16:52.54 | Amadeo | I've seen that a few times |
| 16:52.54 | Herio | HERE |
| 16:52.55 | Herio | HERE |
| 16:52.56 | Fisker- | <- |
| 16:52.56 | Herio | HERE |
| 16:52.58 | Herio | not hear |
| 16:53.00 | Herio | okay? |
| 16:53.02 | Fisker- | ok |
| 16:53.07 | Herio | i caught the air |
| 16:53.08 | Herio | error |
| 16:53.09 | Herio | fuck |
| 16:53.10 | Fisker- | Would you like a ban with that spam though? |
| 16:53.15 | Herio | no |
| 16:53.16 | Chompers | hahaa |
| 16:54.22 | Garns | had it with 2D as 3D backdrop, when the member was out of range, it was showing some complete Model in front of the 2D picture |
| 16:54.40 | Garns | trying to reproduce now... |
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| 16:57.40 | Garns | ok, its showing my own model in front of the 2D picture |
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| 16:58.43 | Elkano | Garns, have you set 2D as fallback from 3D? |
| 16:59.02 | Garns | yes |
| 16:59.21 | Elkano | as do I and I also had that bug once |
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| 17:01.40 | daGarns | http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2779/wowscrnshot042307185739nn2.jpg |
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| 17:10.47 | Kilroo | Ok, new question. I believe when I was last actually playing, people were starting to talk about embedded dependencies but not doing much about it yet. Anyone want to take a crack at giving me a brief summary of (1) what the difference is, (2) why it's good, and (3) what it means for a user who has a lot of addons that depend on a lot of the same stuff? |
| 17:11.34 | renchap | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns |
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| 17:12.16 | hyperChipmunk | (1) libs come with the addon (2) people hate dependencies, and embeds eliminate that (3) nothing, after the first GC; once all addons are loaded, only the most-recent version of the embed remains |
| 17:13.09 | kenlyric | assuming a bugged lib doesn't crash the client during load ;) |
| 17:13.17 | hyperChipmunk | =\ |
| 17:13.18 | Fisker- | also standards! |
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| 17:14.52 | Eternally777 | Assuming the author can competently judge between when she/he should embed a library and when she/he should just write their own code to handle a given scenario. |
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| 17:16.01 | Kilroo | Ok. That's about what I thought it would mean. But that means I don't entirely understand something else I came across. I saw one addon that said if you had Ace2 as a standalone, I think it was, you should delete something when you install it. Does that make any sense? (Wish I hadn't closed that window...) |
| 17:16.17 | Fisker- | that's the (3) part |
| 17:16.37 | Fisker- | the overhead for multiple libraries are negible |
| 17:17.34 | hyperChipmunk | yea, unless you're reloading your UI every 5 seconds in the middle of a major fight, that isn't a problem |
| 17:18.21 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, I think I've found your combat lag problem... quit doing a /rl every five seconds in the middle of your major fights. :p |
| 17:18.29 | Eternally777 | Kilroo: Say 'MyAddon' has 'AceLibrary' embedded in it. If I also had Ace2 as a standalone addon, I could delete the 'AceLibrary' folder out of 'MyAddon' because 'AceLibrary' will be loaded when the Ace2 standalone loads. That's assuming WoW loads the Ace2 standalone prior to loading 'MyAddon'. |
| 17:18.49 | hyperChipmunk | =p |
| 17:18.56 | Fisker- | and that myaddon doesn't has acelibrary as a required dependancy |
| 17:19.09 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
| 17:19.18 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: CDUpdates are happening way too often |
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| 17:20.56 | Fisker- | i hate wowhead |
| 17:22.07 | Kilroo | So essentially...I wind up with umpteen copies of the libraries, but only actually using one? Which from what I gather, should be no performance hit (except possibly a few extra milliseconds when actually loading the UI) and not really significant in wasted storage space, either...but essentially it -is- a tradeoff of a little storage space for not having to deal with dependencies? |
| 17:22.22 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, comment out IB_Standard.lua line 1231, then tell me if the Cooldowns are updating correctly, and if so, are the lag spikes still happening. |
| 17:22.59 | JJSheets | that line should be in UpdateButton, reading self:CDUpdate(btn,self:GetButtonOverride(... etc. |
| 17:23.22 | Fisker- | Kilroo technically yeah |
| 17:23.35 | Fisker- | But WoWAceUpdater actually seperates embeds from standalone |
| 17:23.52 | Fisker- | meaning that you end up with only one library |
| 17:23.58 | Eternally777 | Kilroo: Only one copy of the library remains in memory after the first garbage collection cycle. The only time you're sacrificing a little storage space is the time between loading WoW and that first cycle. |
| 17:24.00 | Fisker- | as long as your addon is supported by wowaceupdater |
| 17:24.06 | hyperChipmunk | function IBInfiniBar.prototype:CDUpdateAll() |
| 17:24.15 | hyperChipmunk | function IBInfiniBar.prototype:CDUpdateAll() runs 89 times per spellcast |
| 17:24.26 | JJSheets | O.o |
| 17:25.03 | JJSheets | well... we may have a winner... it should only run once per bar per cast... |
| 17:25.03 | hyperChipmunk | one would think a single update of all buttons would be plenty |
| 17:25.11 | JJSheets | sonething tells me you don't have 89 bars. :p |
| 17:25.20 | hyperChipmunk | not quite |
| 17:25.29 | JJSheets | :) |
| 17:25.35 | hyperChipmunk | now it's running 117 times |
| 17:25.36 | Fisker- | i would |
| 17:25.41 | hyperChipmunk | after the first time |
| 17:26.00 | Fisker- | 44½ bar for HS and 44½ bar for divine shield |
| 17:27.50 | JJSheets | ~whalenuke Fisker- |
| 17:27.58 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers |
| 17:27.59 | Fisker- | actually tried to do that back in the time that nurfed introduced unlimited action bars |
| 17:27.59 | Fisker- | with limited buttons :P |
| 17:27.59 | hyperChipmunk | ok, it's 90 times on the first cast, 117 times on subsequent casts |
| 17:27.59 | Fisker- | could only fill up like 100 slots on the bars |
| 17:27.59 | chutwig | a minor technicality |
| 17:28.00 | hyperChipmunk | (forgot to count 0) |
| 17:28.00 | JJSheets | purl, you suck |
| 17:28.04 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 17:28.05 | sylvanaar | we should come up will a common profiling library so that all our numbers and capabilities match |
| 17:28.05 | Fisker- | lol wtf |
| 17:28.05 | Fisker- | got error #132 for leaving a raid |
| 17:28.06 | JJSheets | Nobody likes a quitter, Fisker- |
| 17:28.06 | JJSheets | heheh |
| 17:28.07 | Fisker- | wasn't quitting only sploiting :( |
| 17:28.19 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: still want me to check line 1231? |
| 17:28.23 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, yeah... go for it. :) won't hurt much... |
| 17:28.32 | JJSheets | and you can put it back if need be. |
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| 17:28.46 | Kilroo | By storage space I meant on the hard drive, Eternally777. I understand the part about it not holding the extras in memory. But sounds like you're saying, Fisker, that WowAceUpdater will actually consolidate the unnecessary copies for me...and if I wanted to I could just manually set it up the old-fashioned way by making sure I have the standalone and deleting the embedded ones myself (regardless of how little actual point there might |
| 17:29.45 | Eternally777 | Kilroo: Oh, sorry. I don't usually need worry about hard drive storage space. |
| 17:29.59 | Eternally777 | s/need worry/need to worry/ |
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| 17:31.00 | hyperChipmunk | commenting it out didn't help the lag, and the cooldown sticks on paging until you cast something else on that bar |
| 17:31.25 | Kilroo | Hehe, neither do I. I think I get a little borderline OCD about such things sometimes. I'll sit around with four different programs installed that do the same thing for ages and then get upset because I stored a 2kb text file in two different places. |
| 17:31.29 | Kilroo | Oh, he left. |
| 17:32.17 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, thanks... I knew that was in there for a reason. I'll add a throttling system to the XXXAll() functions... |
| 17:32.51 | Fisker- | http://youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU |
| 17:33.52 | kaiden | oh noes jjsheets.. i brokeded infinibar ;P |
| 17:34.07 | JJSheets | How so? :) |
| 17:34.34 | kaiden | found you a neat little bug, if you change the name of a macro that's on a bar it throws a strsplit error and after that infinibar wont change the icon of the macro to the first spell that's in the macro |
| 17:34.37 | kenlyric | Fisker-: I just broke my spleen from laughing. |
| 17:34.38 | kaiden | like it used to |
| 17:35.01 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 17:35.06 | Chompers | what am i watching :/ |
| 17:35.19 | JJSheets | solution... don't change macro names. :p or give me the line number/file it bugged on |
| 17:35.39 | Fisker- | gay niggers from earth Chompers! |
| 17:36.00 | JJSheets | O.o |
| 17:36.01 | kenlyric | Chompers: he's the Xtina of the down-low? |
| 17:36.02 | kaiden | JJSheets, i'm trying to recreate it so i can get the error info |
| 17:36.10 | chutwig | fisker is a founding member of GNAA |
| 17:37.06 | kaiden | JJSheets, Interface\AddOns\InfiniBar\MacroSupport.lua:51:bad argument #2 to 'strsplit' (string expected, got nil) |
| 17:37.37 | JJSheets | kaiden, thanks. |
| 17:37.51 | JJSheets | Fisker-, damn you're weird. |
| 17:38.34 | kaiden | JJSheets, no problem :) i do very weird things so i'm good at finding weird bugs |
| 17:38.35 | kaiden | lol |
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| 17:38.55 | Chompers | the youtube comments for it are amazing |
| 17:40.01 | kaiden | JJSheets, it also breaks the way it pulls icons from there on out somehow, like i'm pulling the whirlwind icon from warriors for my auto shot macro |
| 17:40.03 | kaiden | ;P |
| 17:40.23 | JJSheets | kaiden, lol |
| 17:40.28 | Fisker- | weab !!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:40.40 | Fisker- | unfortunately not chutwig :O |
| 17:40.49 | Fisker- | I wish i were though |
| 17:41.51 | kaiden | If anyone hasn't already tried it, TomTom / LightHeaded == amazing addons |
| 17:41.53 | kaiden | so useful |
| 17:42.07 | kenlyric | send the video to all your lady friends. |
| 17:42.17 | kenlyric | it's a catchy tune... they won't soon forget it. |
| 17:43.36 | Fisker- | sory :( |
| 17:43.38 | Fisker- | <\3 |
| 17:44.00 | hyperChipmunk | take 'em; i've got plenty |
| 17:44.03 | JJSheets | that won't help hyperChipmunk... |
| 17:44.15 | hyperChipmunk | in fact, CDUpdateAlls for everyone! |
| 17:45.30 | hyperChipmunk | there a reason RefreshButtonTooltip is using 2.2MB? |
| 17:46.02 | hyperChipmunk | 4 seconds and 32.5K per call |
| 17:46.16 | hyperChipmunk | that's gotta be misinformation |
| 17:46.22 | kenlyric | I was going to type "I swear I know that guy" but figured that would just be all wrong. |
| 17:46.30 | JJSheets | 4 milliseconds more likely. |
| 17:46.35 | kenlyric | I swear I've seen that guy on TV before. |
| 17:46.42 | hyperChipmunk | oh, yea |
| 17:46.43 | JJSheets | kenlyric, lol |
| 17:47.08 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, it's still more than I want, but I think the time is spent on Blizzard's tooltip code. |
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| 17:50.36 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: http://69.14.77.214/infiniresourceusage.png |
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| 17:51.18 | hyperChipmunk | that's after me runnin around doing normal-type stuff a little; no combat |
| 17:51.29 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, k. |
| 17:51.37 | kergoth | thats expo? neat |
| 17:51.47 | hyperChipmunk | no specific reason, just thought you might glean some info from it |
| 17:52.06 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: yea, it's delicious |
| 17:52.14 | sylvanaar | JJSheets there is no way to remove an addon from profiling if it does not exist anymore |
| 17:52.16 | hyperChipmunk | i'm afraid to run it on one of my own addons =) |
| 17:52.20 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:52.39 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, lmao |
| 17:52.57 | kergoth | thankfully i dont have many addons that i've written to run it against, so i dont have to worry about that :P |
| 17:52.58 | JJSheets | sylvanaar, I'm not following you... |
| 17:53.30 | sylvanaar | profiling on for Prat, disable prat, reload ui, errors |
| 17:53.50 | JJSheets | ah. k... what're the files/linenumbers. |
| 17:56.11 | sylvanaar | http://ace.pastey.net/16039 |
| 17:56.21 | kenlyric | http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/introducing-the-book-p1.php |
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| 17:57.05 | sbu | uh pitbull errors |
| 17:57.08 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33521 10Aloft/CoreModules/ (Frame.lua HealthBar.lua): |
| 17:57.08 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 17:57.08 | CIA-11 | - Added advanced color option for HealthBar/Frame to override colors of specific frames controlled by tag string |
| 17:57.16 | sbu | PitBull-r33483\Aura\Aura.lua:505: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 17:57.18 | sbu | no idea... |
| 17:57.19 | sbu | 95x |
| 17:57.21 | sbu | arena |
| 17:57.30 | sbu | PitBull_BarFader\PitBull_BarFader.lua:133: attempt to index local 'db' (a nil value) |
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| 17:58.03 | sbu | PitBull-r33483\Combat\Combat.lua:53: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 17:58.08 | sbu | ckknight? :) |
| 17:59.27 | beerke | is there a new version of WAU yet that doesn't download the wrong revisions yet ? |
| 17:59.44 | vhaarr | it's a wowace issue, not WAU |
| 18:00.22 | beerke | is wowace fixed then to solve the issue with WAU ? |
| 18:00.42 | kenlyric | it's a mommy and daddy fighting issue. |
| 18:00.46 | kenlyric | don't take sides.\ |
| 18:00.55 | sergio | mommy is a slut |
| 18:01.12 | beerke | Hope they are not going to divorce :( |
| 18:01.14 | vhaarr | beerke: I don't know, ask kaelten or pastamancer, they should be able to fix latest.txt |
| 18:01.17 | kenlyric | mommy complains that daddy is leaving the toilet seat up, daddy is complaining that mommy is using the wrong toilet. |
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| 18:02.09 | pastamancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.19 | kenlyric | then it's not "latest" |
| 18:02.24 | pastamancer | latest.xml has been around long enough that there's no reason updaters don't use it |
| 18:02.33 | |Kev| | well |
| 18:02.45 | Gnarfoz | and .zip doesn't link to the latest .45.zip? |
| 18:02.47 | |Kev| | apart from those that aren't actively developed anymore :) |
| 18:03.05 | |Kev| | (yes, I have updater on highlight) |
| 18:03.42 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: no, it doesn't. zip files don't change anymore so they can be cached, and for if we decide to setup mirrors for /files in the future |
| 18:03.54 | Gnarfoz | so... what to do until now? |
| 18:03.55 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 18:03.57 | Gnarfoz | for now |
| 18:04.00 | sylvanaar | well at the time we had to support wau 1.6 |
| 18:04.19 | kenlyric | Gnarfoz: use standalones, like you should always have been. |
| 18:04.22 | renchap | pastamancer: what about files mirroring ? ^^ |
| 18:04.25 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: shush |
| 18:04.26 | Saint-N | wau is fightingwith ace? |
| 18:04.28 | sylvanaar | so they rolled back the changes to latest.txt, imo you can just put them back in |
| 18:04.44 | kenlyric | embeds are for people who don't update through wau. |
| 18:04.53 | Gnarfoz | standalones are an abomination :p |
| 18:05.01 | kenlyric | not if you're updating through wau. |
| 18:05.07 | Gnarfoz | -.- |
| 18:05.15 | Saint-N | standalones make for smaller directorys ;) |
| 18:05.21 | pastamancer | last I checked, WUU was working fine |
| 18:05.28 | Gnarfoz | Saint-N: So fucking what, I've got terabytes of disk space |
| 18:05.30 | kenlyric | You check the box that's at the top and says "standalones". Easy as pie. |
| 18:05.32 | |Kev| | is mau about to break then? :) |
| 18:05.38 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: thanks, moste useful answer yet ;) |
| 18:05.53 | kenlyric | pastamancer: "working fine" is a relative statement. |
| 18:05.59 | sylvanaar | we arent going to update WAU, the development cycle is too long |
| 18:06.05 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: with the number of commits I've seen that simply fix 'optionaldeps', I'm not going to risk standalones again |
| 18:06.18 | pastamancer | IIRC it parses the index.html (yuck) and therefore gets the decimal versions |
| 18:06.22 | kenlyric | Gnarfoz: huh? |
| 18:06.28 | kenlyric | you update the libs inside a mod or not. |
| 18:06.41 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz use ACP in game to help with dependancy errors |
| 18:06.46 | Gnarfoz | indeed... if I don't my updater has to figure out which libs I need |
| 18:07.05 | Gnarfoz | no sylvanaar, I don't want to use something else just to fix errors I don't have with embeds :D |
| 18:07.18 | Gnarfoz | I'm rather gonna use wuu then :< |
| 18:07.29 | Gnarfoz | shame, WAU was great :^^ |
| 18:07.30 | kenlyric | good, maybe you can find someone to make wuu usable. |
| 18:07.38 | |Kev| | does mau still work? |
| 18:07.40 | |Kev| | any ideas? |
| 18:07.40 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz k thx for playing |
| 18:08.01 | |Kev| | I haven't been following this conversation |
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| 18:08.21 | Gnarfoz | developer's blindness for usability concerns always baffles me :> |
| 18:08.22 | kenlyric | I can't see the point of choosing embeds...if the latest gets loaded anyway, what's the diff? |
| 18:08.35 | kenlyric | Gnarfoz: then don't use WUU |
| 18:08.57 | kergoth | i like embeds since you can easily enable the addon in game without worrying about its quadrillion deps |
| 18:08.57 | pastamancer | which updater is/was pprovost involved with? |
| 18:09.04 | |Kev| | wau |
| 18:09.12 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: /nod |
| 18:09.31 | pastamancer | he's the one that started the RSS discussion |
| 18:09.38 | kenlyric | kergoth. Oh, i just enable all my addons. |
| 18:09.38 | JJSheets | Well, I'm off to lunch... I hope to have these bug fixes and optimizations in shortly after. |
| 18:09.55 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: yeah, because having to rely on a program and on the correctness of the OptionalDeps line to figure out which standalones I need is so much better then just being able to use all the addons and even be able to disable or delete ones I don't use anymore :D |
| 18:10.03 | sylvanaar | kergoth i put stuff into acp to handle all that dependancy stuff |
| 18:10.08 | kergoth | neat |
| 18:10.32 | kenlyric | Gnarfoz: as far as I can tell, standalonelibs just gets all the libs. |
| 18:10.37 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: even worse :< |
| 18:10.44 | sylvanaar | not really |
| 18:10.51 | kergoth | the libs are LoD, it hurts nothing to have them all |
| 18:10.59 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 18:11.18 | Gnarfoz | good point? ^^ then it's only relying on sane OptionalDeps lines |
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| 18:11.27 | sylvanaar | and acp deals with dependancies, so you can just enable the addon you want and it does the rest |
| 18:11.41 | Ominous_ | ckknight: what the raid frames target and hwat they show seem to differ often |
| 18:11.43 | sylvanaar | even missing optionaldeps |
| 18:12.20 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: you mean it figures out what an addons tries to use and enables that, even if the addon in question doesn't have that lib in it's OptionalDeps? |
| 18:12.28 | kenlyric | the big selling point for me is number of files. |
| 18:12.30 | kergoth | hows it pull that off? does acelibrary load the providing addon when its called? |
| 18:12.42 | Fisker- | A zero-day vulnerability in Safari allowed two attendees of CanSecWest security conference to walk away with a 17 MacBook and $10,000 prize for exploiting two MacBooks in the Pwn-2-Own contest <-pwned to owned |
| 18:12.48 | sylvanaar | kergoth/Gnarfoz after the fact |
| 18:12.48 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: ...why? you running a pentium 100 with 10gigs of hdd? :D |
| 18:13.19 | kenlyric | Gnarfoz: backups to USB drive. the write is slow enough that an extra 1000 files takes noticable extra time. |
| 18:13.33 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: tar first, problem solved |
| 18:13.44 | kergoth | what i hate about embeds is when the library upgrade path breaks, you're hosed |
| 18:13.54 | sylvanaar | kergoth/Gnarfoz if you have bugsack installed it will look for library load errors, fix them, and tell you to reload |
| 18:14.04 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: like recently with aceevent? -.- that sucked :> |
| 18:14.30 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: ah, neat. seems some effort went into making this solution usable ;) |
| 18:14.52 | sylvanaar | just automated common tasks |
| 18:15.05 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 18:16.10 | sylvanaar | but yeah, if the server script can be changed to that latest.txt is correct, and the changelogs (in text format) use the newer name that'd be swell |
| 18:16.12 | nevcairiel | rMCP automagically enables Deps and OptDeps |
| 18:16.14 | nevcairiel | thats enough for me |
| 18:16.21 | Gnarfoz | so... for WAU: skip version check = true + update all addons without externals + select !!!SAL should switch me from embeds to standalones, right? |
| 18:16.32 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel its the same code |
| 18:16.41 | nevcairiel | i like rMCP better :P |
| 18:18.09 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel rMCP only deals with Deps |
| 18:18.41 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
| 18:18.42 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel it cant enable optionaldeps, because they are inaccessable in-game |
| 18:18.42 | nevcairiel | hm dunno |
| 18:18.49 | nevcairiel | i have all Libs: enabled by default |
| 18:18.51 | nevcairiel | because its LoD |
| 18:19.50 | kenlyric | Gnarfoz: and the option to delete the addon first. |
| 18:20.35 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: yep, didn't mention that because I already use that, thanks :) |
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| 18:21.03 | kenlyric | Gnarfoz: and, when you have standalonelibs installed, the F12 options changes, so you can continue to use that. |
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| 18:21.19 | kenlyric | I don't know about the reinstall all mods option, haven't been brave enough to try it. |
| 18:21.19 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz no need to skip version check, just install !!Sal, then select Reinstall All Addons |
| 18:21.34 | kenlyric | ah, so it does work. |
| 18:21.36 | kenlyric | sweeet |
| 18:22.07 | Gnarfoz | hm, I don't know why I can leave that option alone, but you wrote the damn thing, so I guess you know ;D |
| 18:22.10 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel so i hear you are going to fix WAU |
| 18:22.35 | nevcairiel | i volunteered if noone else wants to :P |
| 18:22.47 | nevcairiel | my guildmates complain to me anyway when it wont owkr |
| 18:22.48 | Gnarfoz | can I safely use SAL and LAL? |
| 18:22.50 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel you are hired, go for it |
| 18:23.38 | kenlyric | I alwayys thought LAL was a joke. |
| 18:23.46 | nevcairiel | ckknight: is there a way to change the fontsize of the reputation bar text? |
| 18:23.49 | sylvanaar | lol, it is but it works |
| 18:24.00 | kenlyric | what does it do in addition to SAL? |
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| 18:24.19 | nevcairiel | Whats LAL ? |
| 18:24.21 | nevcairiel | ^^ |
| 18:24.30 | sylvanaar | it causes SAL not to be unpacked |
| 18:24.48 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 18:24.55 | kenlyric | would I want that? |
| 18:24.58 | Gnarfoz | should do wonders for even cleaner addon dirs? |
| 18:25.05 | sylvanaar | but WAU still thinks you want "Without Externals" |
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| 18:25.56 | kenlyric | oh, so it doesn't just install all the libs in !!!standalonelibs folder... |
| 18:26.11 | kenlyric | not that I even know or think that would work. |
| 18:26.21 | sylvanaar | it installs !!!STandaloneLibraries.nounpack |
| 18:27.20 | sylvanaar | it lets you have a default mode of "without externals" without "installing" standalone libraries |
| 18:27.41 | sylvanaar | its for the ppl who complained that they wanted an option in the program |
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| 18:28.03 | sylvanaar | hence the name |
| 18:28.03 | kenlyric | those people sound strange. |
| 18:28.16 | Gnarfoz | hrm, so all my addons still contain libs |
| 18:28.20 | nevcairiel | if you select "without externals" it automagically selects SAL? |
| 18:28.30 | Gnarfoz | I'm not really using standalones now, am I? o_O |
| 18:28.40 | sylvanaar | you install SAL |
| 18:28.55 | sylvanaar | then afterwards you use "reinstall all addons" |
| 18:29.11 | sylvanaar | if you want to purge all the libs folders |
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| 18:30.28 | sylvanaar | you can read the wiki page for more details |
| 18:30.40 | kenlyric | I did it the old fashioned way, but it gave me a chance to make sure I needed all the addons I was using. |
| 18:30.53 | kenlyric | turns out, three fubar pet mods were overkill. |
| 18:31.01 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater |
| 18:31.15 | kaiden | interesting... wowhead changed the logo back |
| 18:31.16 | kaiden | lol |
| 18:31.54 | Herio | huh? |
| 18:32.00 | vhaarr | they probably realised it looked like a penis |
| 18:32.01 | Gnarfoz | good choice IMHO |
| 18:32.10 | kaiden | vhaarr, lets hope :P |
| 18:32.12 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: all rockets are phalli -.- |
| 18:32.13 | kaiden | that was a pretty ugly logo |
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| 18:32.17 | Herio | what was the new logo? |
| 18:32.17 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 18:32.21 | Gnarfoz | but indeed it was ugly anyway |
| 18:32.23 | Nicken | WhoDrop hmm, anyone know what it does? |
| 18:32.25 | vhaarr | other submissions were far superior |
| 18:32.26 | kaiden | Herio, go to their contests section and look |
| 18:32.32 | kenlyric | the old one looks like a penis. |
| 18:32.39 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/images/logo02.jpg |
| 18:32.58 | sbu | weh |
| 18:32.59 | Gnarfoz | as I said, all rockets are phalli ;) |
| 18:33.01 | Herio | it doesn't look too penisy |
| 18:33.03 | sbu | something is really fucked |
| 18:33.05 | kenlyric | i'd argue the old one looks *more* like a penis. |
| 18:33.05 | Gnarfoz | cockrings even |
| 18:33.12 | sbu | wow errors, pitbull errors (500+) - in arena |
| 18:33.12 | sbu | :/ |
| 18:33.21 | Herio | imo it's just too intricate and garish |
| 18:33.49 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.19 | Herio | god |
| 18:34.22 | sergio | flaming penis logo isn't much better than red rocket penis logo |
| 18:36.02 | kaiden | and what's wrong with giant rocket penises? |
| 18:36.06 | kaiden | they make the world go round |
| 18:36.23 | Elkano | Anyone got some change? |
| 18:36.52 | Daemona | <3 austin powers :D |
| 18:37.01 | sbu | ckknight: http://nopaste.ch/3f6067b4a87a803.html <-- evil :( |
| 18:37.09 | Elkano | austin? nope... |
| 18:37.18 | Elkano | anyways, chaaannnge? |
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| 18:39.25 | stavmar | does anyone know how to make a signature in teh wowace forums? I went to preferences but I am not seeing the correct place to put it? |
| 18:43.59 | Kilroo | Durrr... |
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| 18:44.37 | Kilroo | I just found the memory concerns page on wowace that explains everything I was asking before about embedded dependencies. |
| 18:44.39 | Kilroo | LOL |
| 18:44.59 | Kilroo | Kaelten! Yaaaay. |
| 18:45.26 | Gnarfoz | Kilroo: I saw it was linked to you as the first reply to your question about that topic |
| 18:45.36 | Kilroo | Oh. |
| 18:45.43 | Kilroo | I completely missed that at the time. |
| 18:45.51 | Gnarfoz | poor renchap ^^ |
| 18:46.06 | Kilroo | Or more accurately, I completely missed the fact that it was intended for me. |
| 18:46.42 | renchap | :) |
| 18:48.42 | hyperChipmunk | Elkano: did you just set clamping for EBBs? |
| 18:48.45 | Daemona | uhm is the cartographer waypoint time guestimation thingy broken? i cant believe i need 13 minutes direct flight from shattrath to tempest keep |
| 18:49.12 | trh | Daemona: install ToFu and check ^^ |
| 18:49.25 | Daemona | i doubt tofu works for cartographer waypoints |
| 18:49.26 | CIA-11 | 03athou * r33522 10Taggle/Taggle.lua: |
| 18:49.26 | CIA-11 | Taggle: |
| 18:49.26 | CIA-11 | - General/Trade channel filtering is now working |
| 18:49.38 | trh | Daemona: thought you'd use the wyvern ;) |
| 18:49.39 | Daemona | when using a 280% flight mount |
| 18:49.51 | Daemona | do i look like i cant afford 5k mounts? ;) |
| 18:50.12 | Kilroo | yes. |
| 18:50.18 | Daemona | *cries* |
| 18:50.26 | Kilroo | Don't cry |
| 18:50.43 | Kilroo | It's just that at the moment you look like the word "Daemona" in bold black text. |
| 18:50.58 | Kilroo | I don't usually expect words to be able to afford much. |
| 18:51.00 | trh | Kilroo: not bold ;) |
| 18:51.58 | Kilroo | trh: The formatting in your IRc client is immaterial to how the name appears in mine. |
| 18:52.04 | Kilroo | Hehe. |
| 18:52.21 | Fisker- | have they changed maiden? |
| 18:52.45 | trh | Fisker-: 3 days ago she did the same stuff 2 months ago ;) |
| 18:53.39 | sbu | hmm you mean buffed Fisker-? |
| 18:53.39 | Fisker- | just that i keep getting aggro when using blessing of sacrifice |
| 18:53.48 | kenlyric | it happens. |
| 18:53.50 | kenlyric | don't use it on the tank. |
| 18:54.57 | kenlyric | unless we have more pallies than melee dps, we have pallies BoSacr them instead of the tank. |
| 18:55.31 | Fisker- | smart |
| 18:55.47 | Fisker- | used it on the tank the last time though |
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| 19:00.59 | Matrix110 | hyperChipmunk? |
| 19:01.59 | Matrix110 | you brokerepaired CorkFU! ooc buffing aint working anymore while clam opening/getting pet out works |
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| 19:02.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 19:04.00 | Matrix110 | Tekkub fix CorkFu! |
| 19:04.23 | Matrix110 | ooc buffing aint working anymore as a mage, iam a sad panda now:-( |
| 19:04.51 | kenlyric | doesn't self-buff with the scrollwheel, it's dead to me. |
| 19:04.56 | Matrix110 | but pet/clam opening works so i guess its nothing wrong here at myside |
| 19:05.40 | Matrix110 | oh i found a solution |
| 19:05.58 | Matrix110 | redo all settings then it works mysteriously even if you got the same settings as before |
| 19:06.07 | Herio | wow |
| 19:06.29 | Herio | I just saw a commercial where at the bottom of the screen it said "Do not attempt. Dog was harmed during filming." |
| 19:06.45 | kenlyric | really? |
| 19:07.06 | Herio | that's what it looked like |
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| 19:11.39 | ckknight | Ominous: no idea what that means |
| 19:11.46 | ckknight | nevcairiel: no |
| 19:12.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 19:12.41 | Fisker- | Shouldn't it be [currhp:veryshort] |
| 19:12.48 | Fisker- | and it would work by abbreviating? |
| 19:12.52 | ckknight | Kilroo: I never actually used Watchdog. I didn't name PitBull after Watchdog, that was a coincidence. |
| 19:12.57 | hyperChipmunk | Matrix110: i've never touched corkfu |
| 19:13.01 | Kilroo | Ok |
| 19:13.14 | Kilroo | Well, I never did claim to have a perfect memory. |
| 19:13.21 | Matrix110 | sorry hyperChipmunk i thought you were Tekkub:P |
| 19:13.31 | Fisker- | my bad |
| 19:13.32 | ckknight | but yea, I wrote most of Ace2, Cartographer, FuBar, and now PitBull |
| 19:13.33 | Matrix110 | as he wasnt on chan for sometime and you always were^^ |
| 19:13.36 | Fisker- | forgot enabling Custom :P |
| 19:13.47 | ckknight | Kilroo: it's all part of my devious plan to control the entire UI |
| 19:13.59 | Kilroo | I must have been thinking of someone else...someone fairly prominent in the Ace scene back then kept pitching Watchdog to everyone. |
| 19:14.01 | Kilroo | LOL |
| 19:14.46 | Fisker- | What do you guys think 2x100 witdh tot/tott boxes or 2x200 width? |
| 19:15.09 | CIA-11 | 03kaelten * r33524 10cgProfiler/npcs/npcs.lua: cgProfiler: Fixed occasional bug with picking flowers. |
| 19:15.10 | ckknight | Kilroo: cladhaire's the author of Watchdog |
| 19:15.27 | Matrix110 | Fisker- depends on your own mood:P |
| 19:15.30 | ckknight | Kilroo: but he's no longer really part of the ace community |
| 19:15.36 | Kilroo | Ah. |
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| 19:16.11 | Fisker- | definately 200 width |
| 19:17.09 | Matrix110 | mine are 154w 31h |
| 19:17.18 | Fisker- | i can make a macro that casts on target's target if it's hostile right? |
| 19:17.24 | Matrix110 | but iam not using Pitbull |
| 19:17.40 | Fisker- | well they'll have to be divided by my other frames |
| 19:17.45 | Fisker- | all my main frames are 200 width |
| 19:17.50 | Fisker- | so either 50,100 or 200 |
| 19:19.27 | JoshBorke | Fisker-: yes, you can make a macro that does that |
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| 19:22.05 | Fisker- | as the apparent mother of all retards i must ask wouldn't it be more Fisker-proof to not let custom be modified when it's overriden by another style? |
| 19:23.19 | Amian | Kaelten are u around mebe i could have a talk with u about WAU |
| 19:23.37 | Kaelten | amian I'm here, if you want to talk though msn/gtalk would be better atm |
| 19:23.46 | Amian | cheers |
| 19:23.58 | snirks | ckknight: did the castbar get smaller? |
| 19:24.32 | Fisker- | yup |
| 19:24.33 | Fisker- | much luv |
| 19:24.45 | Kaelten | Amian: I'm kaelten at gmail dot com for both gtalk and msn |
| 19:25.10 | snirks | cool ill spread that at facebook!!! |
| 19:25.27 | Amian | ok working on it :) |
| 19:25.50 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33525 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat_Modules/modules/Timestamps.lua: tweak the timestamps mod slightly |
| 19:25.57 | ckknight | snirks: possible. |
| 19:26.13 | ckknight | snirks: open the ABF layout and change the height ratios of things |
| 19:26.16 | Daemona | sure it got smaller, to make space for the faction bar ;) |
| 19:27.19 | Fisker- | don't diss the new castbar heights |
| 19:27.30 | Daemona | its ok :) |
| 19:27.33 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33526 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/extras/util.lua: Prat: allow color table or string in CLR:Colorize |
| 19:27.47 | Arrowmaster | does anybody know where i can find some of Rowne's old addons? |
| 19:27.48 | Amian | Kealt> shows u as offline ^^ |
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| 19:31.09 | Fisker- | If i do [currhp:veryshort(hidegreater=20000)] it will only abbreviate if the mob has over 20000 hp right? |
| 19:31.12 | abyssichate | Is there an addon that asks for confirmation when you click for popping a flask? |
| 19:31.26 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33527 10Aloft/ (11 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 19:31.26 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 19:31.26 | CIA-11 | - Big change to how borders and backdrops work. |
| 19:31.26 | CIA-11 | - No longer creates UIFrame to adopt nameplate regions/children |
| 19:31.26 | CIA-11 | - Removed all of the intercept functions such as GetRegions(), GetNumRegions() since the hierarchy isn't changing |
| 19:31.27 | CIA-11 | - No longer adjusts any frame levels, adjusts DrawLayers instead. |
| 19:31.29 | CIA-11 | - Creates one less frame per nameplate if border or background are selected |
| 19:31.35 | Toadkiller | I have a stupid question: Exactly where can I find the 2.1 Interface Toolkit? |
| 19:35.53 | Arrowmaster | ~framexml |
| 19:36.02 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
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| 19:36.54 | ckknight | Fisker-: [curhp:hideless(20000):veryshort] |
| 19:37.11 | Fisker- | alright thanks |
| 19:37.15 | ckknight | but I don't think that's what you were going for |
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| 19:37.39 | Fisker- | Well i want to hide the veryshort modifier |
| 19:37.55 | Fisker- | mostly to see the correct value of people and an abbreviated version on mobs |
| 19:38.08 | ckknight | yea, can't really do that |
| 19:38.29 | Herio | okay, say I want to make a screwdriver... what vodka is the most effective in terms of cost, taste and ease of procurement? |
| 19:38.51 | pastamancer | I'm fond of skyy |
| 19:39.00 | Herio | skyy, eh? |
| 19:39.08 | pastamancer | it makes horrible jello shots though, use smirnoff for that |
| 19:39.20 | Bruners | ckknight: when is the raid frames going to be 100% ? |
| 19:39.20 | shieldb | the 100proof smirnoff isn't bad for being as cheaper |
| 19:39.40 | Toadkiller | I have no problem finding the official interface kit, its the beta one im after... |
| 19:39.57 | Arrowmaster | perty sure the beta one is also linking on that page |
| 19:39.58 | Herio | I had a screwdriver made with apple smirnoff and it was pretty good >.> |
| 19:40.22 | Arrowmaster | ok nvm |
| 19:40.38 | Arrowmaster | it either used to be linked on that page or it used to be linked in ~framexml |
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| 19:42.52 | nuoHep | Herio, id say putinka, nemiroff, flagman. but im pretty sure you wont find them where you live |
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| 19:44.09 | Toadkiller | Arrowmaster: Not sure what you mean by ~framexml |
| 19:44.09 | Toadkiller | It is not linked from the toolkit dl page tho |
| 19:44.20 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think there used to be two links when perl replyed to ~framexml |
| 19:44.45 | Toadkiller | Ah, as a forum topic? |
| 19:45.14 | Arrowmaster | no dont remember where it linked to |
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| 19:57.53 | Kilroo | hm. |
| 19:58.37 | Kilroo | Based on what I've read so far...if I decide I need an actionbar mod instead of just using Visor like I used to, it's gonna be Infinibar. |
| 19:58.58 | kaiden | infinibar's the best ;) |
| 19:59.01 | JJSheets | Niftay. |
| 19:59.01 | kergoth | infinibar is awesome |
| 19:59.14 | kaiden | and i would say a tad more configurable than visor'ing up your mainbars |
| 19:59.14 | kaiden | hehe |
| 19:59.24 | kergoth | i'd like it if it had a hide unless you mouseover feature, at least for the microbuttonbar and bagbar, i had mine set up that way in bartender3 |
| 19:59.28 | sylvanaar | ugh, calling LoadAddOn causes you to be billed for all the addons and libraries which are loaded as a result, you get billed for their CPU usage time |
| 19:59.42 | kergoth | sylvanaar: that's stupid. |
| 19:59.53 | JJSheets | kergoth, bugs and optimizations first. :p |
| 19:59.54 | Kilroo | The main reason I'm not sure I'll actually wind up using it is that so far I've nefer really wanted any buttons that aren't visible all the time or that do anything the standard Blizzard ones can't. |
| 19:59.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:00.11 | kergoth | i like the hide unless you're in combat thingy |
| 20:00.12 | kergoth | thats nifty |
| 20:00.14 | sylvanaar | kergoth i agree toatally |
| 20:00.31 | kaiden | Kilroo, they just add the ability to create better interfaces |
| 20:00.35 | kaiden | more compact and easier to use imo |
| 20:00.44 | sylvanaar | so, now, i need to put LoadAddon in a closure, then trick the blizzard code into runnning it |
| 20:00.54 | JJSheets | sylvanaar, lmao |
| 20:01.04 | Kilroo | Don't see how it could be more compact than what I did with Visor... |
| 20:01.14 | sylvanaar | or...maybe |
| 20:01.15 | Kilroo | Unless you mean space/performance, not screen real estate. |
| 20:01.21 | kaiden | Kilroo, yes but if you remade your ui you would spend what 5 or 6 hours configuring it ;) |
| 20:01.36 | ckknight | Bruners: no idea what that means |
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| 20:01.52 | kaiden | well doctors appointment time |
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| 20:02.21 | Kilroo | Nah, I did that a couple times. Long as I still have my old scripts (which may be a problem actually, not sure if I can extract my old Tinypad pages or not) redoing my layout takes me less than ten minutes. |
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| 20:03.04 | kenlyric | hmmm... sounds like you haven't played since pre-tbc... I'd not take a good bet on anything working :) |
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| 20:05.05 | Kilroo | Oh, I'm not, really. I'm planning on redoing my entire addons directory Although if they've changed the Visor commands so that even if I could extract my old pages the scripts wouldn't work anymore, I'll be mildly irked...and I'm a little bit irritated in advance that I'll presumably have to restart everything that stored data of some kind. |
| 20:05.10 | Kilroo | Anywho. |
| 20:05.10 | Bruners | ckknight: pitbulls raid frames, class colors goes wierd and not updateing well on group changes |
| 20:05.20 | ckknight | how so? |
| 20:06.46 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: now that aceevent is making a new frame for every addon, is there a way to reference that frame so i dont have to make another one? |
| 20:06.58 | ckknight | no |
| 20:07.07 | ckknight | and I really wouldn't want users to mess with it anyway |
| 20:07.28 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 20:07.38 | hyperChipmunk | that could be a Bad Thing, yea |
| 20:07.38 | Bruners | ckknight: also getting a huge amount of errors from mana, health and aura.lua |
| 20:07.45 | ckknight | fun fact: blank frames cost only 72 bytes |
| 20:07.53 | ckknight | Bruners: if you're getting errors, that's your goddamn problem. |
| 20:08.06 | ckknight | what's the first error? |
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| 20:08.26 | hyperChipmunk | ha |
| 20:09.05 | Bruners | ckknight: nil value something, wow crashed now |
| 20:09.06 | JJSheets | ckknight, lmao |
| 20:09.32 | sbu | ahh ckknight |
| 20:09.34 | ckknight | Bruners: reproduce and tell me |
| 20:09.38 | ckknight | JJSheets: yes? |
| 20:09.58 | sbu | ckknight: http://nopaste.ch/3f6067b4a87a803.html :o |
| 20:10.05 | JJSheets | ckknight, I was laughing about: <ckknight> Bruners: if you're getting errors, that's your goddamn problem. |
| 20:10.13 | sbu | happened in arena :o |
| 20:10.24 | ckknight | sbu: ugh |
| 20:10.39 | ckknight | JJSheets: I figured that should be obvious to people by now |
| 20:10.45 | JJSheets | heh |
| 20:11.37 | kenlyric | Microsoft needs to take that attitude. |
| 20:11.52 | KarlThePagan | ... they do |
| 20:11.55 | JJSheets | Microsoft originated that attitude... |
| 20:12.00 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33528 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - comment out a line to possibly fix a bug. |
| 20:12.01 | KarlThePagan | 90% of the thime |
| 20:12.07 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: another data sample for you to look at, after about a 15 minute kite, using a few macros and spells on various pages |
| 20:12.16 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, k |
| 20:12.17 | CIA-11 | 03athou * r33529 10Taggle/Taggle.lua: |
| 20:12.17 | CIA-11 | Taggle: |
| 20:12.17 | CIA-11 | - filters are now case insensitive |
| 20:12.17 | CIA-11 | - use regex to write your custom filters (check http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial) |
| 20:12.19 | ckknight | sbu: there |
| 20:12.26 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/infinikite.png |
| 20:12.28 | kenlyric | microsoft is always fixing things to protect users from themselves. |
| 20:12.47 | hyperChipmunk | again, nothing i have to say about it, just thought you might benefit from a look at it |
| 20:12.50 | krka | heh, i knew people would start worrying about their addon being listed as the culprit for memory / cpu abuse, and starting to try to trick the system |
| 20:12.57 | krka | really quite silly |
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| 20:13.03 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, really... if you work with windows based servers... you really really need to be on their MSDN thing... it will save you shittons in service fees just to get some stupid Q-fix that is only available if they've determined you're affected by it |
| 20:13.24 | kenlyric | KarlThePagan: oh, I don't hate my life that much, yet. |
| 20:13.40 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 20:13.44 | KarlThePagan | but on the MSDN/partner forum you can often ask them about a specific problem and they'll give you the service-restricted patch for free |
| 20:13.57 | Fisker- | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 20:14.00 | Fisker- | MALCHEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAR |
| 20:14.22 | KarlThePagan | I guess that's good and bad at the same time... good that they fix these problems... but bad that they don't QA them enough to actually deliver them to everyone |
| 20:14.25 | JoshBorke | krka: huh? where'd that statement come from? |
| 20:14.33 | Fisker- | half the raid boxed in by 3 infernals and we were forced on top of our MT because of the other infernal |
| 20:15.14 | KarlThePagan | sucks that he's so random |
| 20:15.18 | kenlyric | Fisker-: yeah, mostly learning how to deal with getting boxed in is the secret to never dying on that fight. |
| 20:15.23 | KarlThePagan | my guild has Gruul down before prince |
| 20:15.55 | kenlyric | if you're proactive, and leave yourself outs along walls, you can usually get by nearly any combination of infernals. |
| 20:16.11 | kenlyric | We actually had a nasty one last week, and I found the sweet spot, and the tank found the sweet spot... but nobody else did. |
| 20:16.24 | KarlThePagan | haha nice |
| 20:16.36 | KarlThePagan | that's why gruul is a "better" encounter imo |
| 20:16.42 | kenlyric | and of course if the next infernal fell on either of us, we were hosed. |
| 20:17.24 | KarlThePagan | or maybe "worse" depending on your views |
| 20:17.30 | kenlyric | wtb more actual raiders to do gruul. |
| 20:17.39 | CIA-11 | 03jjsheets * r33530 10Expo/modules/Profiler.lua: Expo - Fixed Module and prototype wierdness when they are automatically generated by a namespace. may need to clear SV's if you're experiencing bugs with the profiler before this commit. |
| 20:17.46 | KarlThePagan | it's just a raw effort ... you can carry poor players with superior performance, when otherwise so much BC content requires everyone to have perfect execution |
| 20:17.53 | JJSheets | sylvanaar, that should fix your issues with Expo. |
| 20:19.23 | KarlThePagan | (that said... if you're a real dumbass you can ruin everyone's day in Gruul) |
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| 20:19.31 | kenlyric | wait, a fight where you can carry poor players in TBC? |
| 20:19.33 | kenlyric | wtb. |
| 20:19.39 | JJSheets | lol |
| 20:20.18 | kenlyric | there wre 40 man raids and we had 25 competent people. Now there are 25 man raids and we have 15 competent people. Except in karazhan, where we have 8. |
| 20:20.42 | CIA-11 | 03ulic * r33531 10LittleWigs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:20.42 | CIA-11 | LittleWigs: |
| 20:20.42 | CIA-11 | - Added Laj (Allergic Reaction) |
| 20:20.42 | CIA-11 | - Updated localization frFR for Ikiss |
| 20:20.42 | CIA-11 | - Removed Dark Shell fades from Pandemonius as there doesn't appear to be an event for it. |
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| 20:21.49 | Toadkiller | kenlyric: Yeah why does the number of competent people scale as a fraction of the raid size? |
| 20:22.24 | Shadowed | Burnout |
| 20:22.38 | kenlyric | no, it's competence level. |
| 20:22.52 | kenlyric | people who were perfectly wonderful in AQ40 are just dumb in karazhan. |
| 20:23.03 | kenlyric | like our MT, for one. |
| 20:23.12 | KarlThePagan | lawl |
| 20:23.36 | kenlyric | luckily we have a good tank for learning new fights, or I'd kill myself. |
| 20:23.43 | KarlThePagan | wait... so you're telling me they could tank buru, bug-trio and shit but get aced during moroes? |
| 20:23.47 | Toadkiller | That is surprising since Aq40 demanded more than jsut tank & spank from an MT |
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| 20:24.33 | Kinkx | ebay prolly ;p |
| 20:24.35 | kenlyric | well, to be fair, the slow reaction times of this tank were starting to show in AQ40. But with five other tanks, it was easy work around. |
| 20:25.09 | Toadkiller | Mind u this is my favourite quote: Me "SO, when was the last time u used intervene?" MT: "Last Saturday in Gruuls" Me:"..." |
| 20:25.36 | Toadkiller | Actually that was the OT, the MT is an intervene master |
| 20:25.40 | kenlyric | it's a step up, seriously. The old warrior class leader didn't have beserker stance. |
| 20:26.16 | kenlyric | he always seemed like an idiot, and we could never figure out why he didn't get the warrior class. then it all came into place... |
| 20:26.31 | sylvanaar | JJSheets cool, ill give it a try |
| 20:26.32 | TecnoBrat | you dont need bezerk stance to tank .. amirite? |
| 20:26.38 | Kinkx | lol |
| 20:26.39 | Toadkiller | Yeah I think a lot of people are stuck in old habits. Last night we finally clamped down and made our panzy ice mages respec fire |
| 20:27.04 | kenlyric | TecnoBrat: not as long as you can get other tanks to do it for you, or a dwarf priest. |
| 20:27.18 | TecnoBrat | bezerk rage, who uses that these days? |
| 20:27.19 | Kinkx | Guilds are hard as hell on people on my server now that raids are 25, if you don't perform, you don't belong.. lots of traffic going on :) |
| 20:27.20 | sbu | ckknight: ok, testing soon :o |
| 20:27.29 | kenlyric | but when the MT dies on Nef and you try to recover with an OT and he can't stance dance... everyone can see :) |
| 20:27.31 | Roartindon | Toadkiller: Theproblem is, a pansy ice mage will be a pansy fire mage |
| 20:27.39 | Roartindon | if you can't dps as a frost mage, you won't be able to dps as a fire mage |
| 20:27.47 | kenlyric | Kinkx: I'd love to recruit enough people so we could kick out other people. |
| 20:27.50 | TecnoBrat | kenlyric, I’m being overly sarcastic :P |
| 20:27.56 | kenlyric | But every guild is recruiting, so there are no recruits. |
| 20:28.08 | Toadkiller | Yes they die as easily, BUT they can pump out more damage so we can actually kill Gruul on growth 10 instead of like 15 |
| 20:28.08 | TecnoBrat | WTB healing spec priests, PST |
| 20:28.10 | kenlyric | and the ones we get turn out to suck. |
| 20:28.10 | Kinkx | Yea, good recruits are hard to get.. :/ |
| 20:28.16 | kenlyric | TecnoBrat: nobody wants preists. |
| 20:28.38 | Toadkiller | I am also on a crusade to force everyone to use Grid |
| 20:29.08 | Toadkiller | Well healers & decursers & buffers anyways |
| 20:29.10 | kenlyric | I rejoined my guild in January, and we've had 10 recruits since then. 2 have ever shown up for a single karazhan. one has only showed up for 2. And the other is a hunter. |
| 20:29.14 | Aiiane | TecnoBrat: wtb better pvp survivability, PST |
| 20:29.28 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: wtf |
| 20:29.33 | Kinkx | hehe, poor hunters ;x |
| 20:29.35 | hyperChipmunk | /rude |
| 20:29.37 | kenlyric | Aiiane: PVP has nothing to do with raiding. |
| 20:29.49 | Aiiane | your point? |
| 20:29.49 | Toadkiller | Aiiane: stamina stamina stamina |
| 20:29.54 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: don't blame me, blame blizzard. |
| 20:30.18 | kenlyric | Aiiane: that healing spec and pvp have nothing to do with each other? |
| 20:30.31 | Aiiane | some people like to do more than just one or the other |
| 20:30.53 | Aiiane | some people (gasp) want to do more than just raid |
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| 20:30.59 | JJSheets | refresh my memory... Arathi highlands, where's the Horde village? |
| 20:31.04 | Aiiane | Hammerfall |
| 20:31.06 | Aiiane | NE side |
| 20:31.09 | JJSheets | ty |
| 20:31.41 | Shadowed | No class can complain about PVP Survivability at this point :p |
| 20:31.44 | TecnoBrat | our best shadow priest (who was our best holy priest) respec’d to holy last night .. we did 15+ WSG’s, he died 4 times all night. 5-6 of the games were against premades |
| 20:31.48 | Kinkx | hunters need some love, they seem so broken right now.. they get beat by Prot warriors on Shade by quite a lot |
| 20:32.05 | Pneu | o.O, i never get beaten by prot warriors |
| 20:32.12 | Roartindon | kinkx; you need better hunters |
| 20:32.14 | shieldb | Kinkx, that's a crappy hunter, not a class issue |
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| 20:32.16 | kenlyric | that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that speccing holy has nothing to do with survivability in pvp. |
| 20:32.24 | Kinkx | Prot warriors with Fury gear on and WF |
| 20:32.25 | Pneu | full BM specced and i match our mages and rogues, its only locks i cant compete with |
| 20:32.30 | Kinkx | None of our hunters can beat em |
| 20:32.41 | Roartindon | kinkx: then your hunters really need to l2p |
| 20:32.45 | TecnoBrat | kenlyric, I’m agreeing, I’m just saying that holy spec priests have survivability. |
| 20:32.59 | kenlyric | hell, it's usually my job to be the target in pvp. |
| 20:32.59 | Kinkx | Hmm.. and they got the gear.. so I don't know whats wrong :/ |
| 20:33.05 | Roartindon | I've run kara with a few different hunters in guild, and there are hunteres that pull > 600dps on fights, and there are others that struggle to pull 300 |
| 20:33.06 | kenlyric | keep myself alive while my friends kill my attackers. |
| 20:33.12 | Pneu | they are still using aimed shot perhaps :) |
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| 20:33.49 | TecnoBrat | kenlyric, yep, kinda like the job of a druid .. being a little bastard who runs in circles with hots on your dps and yourself, until the dps kills all of the attackers :P |
| 20:33.52 | kenlyric | Pneu: "dammit, something keeps turningg autoattack off"! |
| 20:34.05 | Kinkx | They're using Steady Shot, at least they've been told to use that.. not really sure, but I think they might just suck >< |
| 20:34.24 | Pneu | steady shot + arcane shot with an autoshot between each = nice dps |
| 20:34.31 | kenlyric | we have a good hunter, but he's afk most nights of the week now. |
| 20:34.33 | Pneu | do they use their pets? |
| 20:34.41 | Toadkiller | Kinkx: You have some lazy assed hunters. Our top hunter is is always top 3-5 in dps. Now granted, he chugs pots & elixers like hes still playing Diablo, but still... |
| 20:34.50 | Kinkx | No, I never see any hunter pets |
| 20:34.56 | Pneu | then they are nubs |
| 20:35.04 | Aiiane | lmao toad |
| 20:35.07 | Aiiane | brings back memories >< |
| 20:35.09 | Pneu | theres no excuse for not using a pet :) |
| 20:35.13 | kenlyric | hunters w/o pets are like dpsing holy priests. |
| 20:35.15 | TecnoBrat | Toadkiller, our shadow priests and mages also chug pots .. so I dont think “running out of mana” should be an excuse for a hunter either. |
| 20:36.09 | kenlyric | I'm going to miss my flask. It makes learning nights no kind of work. |
| 20:36.13 | Toadkiller | Exactly, some people step up & perform & come with the consumables they need, & some pine for the days of MC when they afk autofollowed for the entire night |
| 20:36.54 | kenlyric | Toadkiller: gee, I wish I had ever been able to do that. |
| 20:36.56 | nymbia | TecnoBrat: but they're hunters! they're supposed to take 0 dura hits, drink 0 pots, and whine all day about spending a few silver on arrows! |
| 20:37.00 | kenlyric | fucking lazy dps. |
| 20:37.23 | TecnoBrat | nymbia, rofl, yea. |
| 20:37.35 | Toadkiller | Do some heroics, itl seperate the chaff from the players |
| 20:37.35 | kenlyric | nymbia: I to something worse: warlocks complaining about raid costs. |
| 20:37.57 | kenlyric | *got |
| 20:38.07 | Pneu | nymbia: i wonder if i can pick your brains, if i have the name of a set like "InstanceLoot.Karazhan.Dust Covered Chest" how can i tell what multisets that belongs to? |
| 20:39.47 | Toadkiller | The only thing I hear warlocks whine about these days is not being able to wtf pwn anything, anytime under any circumstances whatsoever |
| 20:39.47 | kenlyric | a warlock tried to laugh at me about reagent costs because they have reagents too. |
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| 20:39.47 | nymbia | Pneu: you'd need to iterate the set tables. or the sets, really, because it belongs to things that may or may not have a table already made |
| 20:39.47 | shieldb | kenlyric, that was maybe a little more reasonable back in naxx |
| 20:39.47 | Dekuna_ | you guys check out the warlock forums recently? fun stuff |
| 20:39.48 | kenlyric | shieldb: which? |
| 20:39.48 | shieldb | not much trash before a lot of bosses to snag shards off of and you're burning a ton for healthstones |
| 20:39.52 | Toadkiller | I like to bitch about how druid buff reagents are only available from 1 in 5 "Reagent Vendors". What kind of "Vendor" can't stock the shit I need? |
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| 20:40.05 | krka | JoshBorke: |
| 20:40.06 | kenlyric | shieldb: and they buy these shards where? |
| 20:40.06 | krka | 22:00:44 <sylvanaar> so, now, i need to put LoadAddon in a closure, then trick the blizzard code into runnning it |
| 20:40.11 | TecnoBrat | kenlyric, what pisses me off more than anything, is a warlock who doesnt notice when they have a hot on them .... goes oom .. and then right after LTs to 10% health, and then dies from an AOE |
| 20:40.15 | TecnoBrat | Then blames the healer |
| 20:40.30 | shieldb | kenlyric, they farm the shards, which takes a little time. Not much different then another class farming a little bit for reagent costs. |
| 20:40.37 | kenlyric | low mana locks who don't watch for HoTs make me dizzy. |
| 20:40.41 | Pneu | see nymbia, for that specific table i know it is in a multiset called "InstanceLoot.Karazhan.Chess Event" but to find it i'd have to iterate all of "InstanceLoot.Karazhan"? |
| 20:40.48 | nymbia | Toadkiller: i love the reagent vendor in KZ. we get there and the druids are like 'uh, you guys want rank 1 gift?' |
| 20:40.54 | kenlyric | shieldb: but that's not all the case in karazhan. |
| 20:41.10 | JoshBorke | krka: k |
| 20:41.16 | TecnoBrat | kenlyric, especially when I make it my mission to watch locks .. dont know why .. but I pay extra attention to it |
| 20:41.22 | shieldb | oh, not talking at all about TBC content. shards are pretty much free other then eating up bagspace |
| 20:41.25 | Toadkiller | I like to walk up to it & slap it each time i go by |
| 20:41.30 | kenlyric | cause it's the most efficient use of mana you have :) |
| 20:41.32 | Pneu | i wish that guy sold arrows, i have to take half a bag additional to my quiver to last a night in kara |
| 20:41.52 | nymbia | Pneu: i guess, but that's a pretty specific case. what're you looking to do with the info? |
| 20:42.02 | Pneu | babble it :) |
| 20:42.34 | Pneu | i'm splitting the table name into three to get the instance name and boss name, but the dust covered chest isnt in babble bosses :) |
| 20:43.11 | nymbia | is 'Chess Event'? because neither really make sense to be in BB |
| 20:43.17 | Pneu | "Chess Event" is |
| 20:43.18 | Toadkiller | nymbia: Do you think the meta data proposal is worth doing? |
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| 20:43.33 | nymbia | Toadkiller: i've been trying to think of good ways to do it |
| 20:43.43 | Pneu | because Cart uses Chess Event for instanceloot i think |
| 20:43.48 | nymbia | yeah |
| 20:44.22 | nymbia | but in other similar spots in instanceloot, that's not necessarily the case |
| 20:44.38 | nymbia | 4 horsemen / brd |
| 20:44.51 | nymbia | majordomo in MC too |
| 20:44.53 | Pneu | yeh, like cache of the firelord etc isnt in a set called Majordomo |
| 20:45.05 | Pneu | hmm, i shall ponder |
| 20:45.23 | nymbia | i thought it was? |
| 20:45.43 | Pneu | sorry, it is |
| 20:45.44 | nymbia | nope, it isnt |
| 20:45.46 | nymbia | lol |
| 20:45.56 | Pneu | ["InstanceLoot.Molten Core.Majordomo Executus"]="m,InstanceLoot.Molten Core.Cache of the Firelord" |
| 20:46.02 | nymbia | yah |
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| 20:46.20 | Saint-N | wahts the reccomended levesl for mana tombs? |
| 20:46.22 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: ETA on unsuckification? i gotta study for a final, but i'd like to check it out if you're gonna put something up soon |
| 20:46.30 | hyperChipmunk | 64-66 |
| 20:46.34 | JJSheets | go study. :p |
| 20:46.34 | Saint-N | thanks |
| 20:46.41 | hyperChipmunk | h9 |
| 20:47.01 | nymbia | Pneu: i guess for the specific case of InstanceLoot, the only time one of those loot sets will be a multiset is if it's a pointer |
| 20:47.07 | Saint-N | hunine? |
| 20:48.43 | hyperChipmunk | it's like h8, but one bigger |
| 20:48.50 | Pneu | the way im havign to use PT with instanceloot is to do an :ItemSearch on a name which gives me the set name, its just finding if that set name lives in a multiset or not |
| 20:49.00 | nymbia | Pneu: so, check :IsSetMulti before trying to translate... if you get false, translate away, if you get true, translate PT3:GetSetTable('multisetname')[1].set |
| 20:50.12 | Pneu | there's no multiset version of :ItemSearch() though? |
| 20:50.25 | nymbia | ItemSearch will work in multisets |
| 20:50.31 | Fisker- | nymbia !!!!! |
| 20:50.34 | Fisker- | Porung hates you |
| 20:50.43 | nymbia | Porung sucks. |
| 20:50.46 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:50.52 | Pneu | i cant ItemSearch("InstanceLoot.Karazhan.Dust Covered Chest") though to find Chess Event |
| 20:51.44 | nymbia | oh |
| 20:51.59 | nymbia | ItemSearch is a huge function that scans all the sets |
| 20:52.27 | Pneu | yeh, i guess i just need to write a scan of the whole Instanceloot.Karazhan tree |
| 20:52.36 | nymbia | well |
| 20:52.51 | nymbia | if you just need the name of the set that it's pointing to |
| 20:53.38 | nymbia | PT3('InstanceLoot.Karazhan.Dust Covered Chest")[1].set |
| 20:55.13 | Pneu | i shall give it a try :) |
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| 21:09.17 | Stephmw | wth? has the drop rate of Netherweb Spider Silk in Black Morass been dropped? |
| 21:09.40 | Amia1 | its always been kinda luck dependend.. |
| 21:09.55 | Amia1 | when i was farming i got 0-10 on a full farm clean ... |
| 21:11.17 | Stephmw | I must've been lucky the past 3 times :( |
| 21:11.31 | Amia1 | lucky y00 :) |
| 21:11.36 | Stephmw | do you call it quits when it's going to be a crappy run? |
| 21:11.50 | Amia1 | usualy not as im mostly farming leather in BM |
| 21:12.01 | Stephmw | bleh |
| 21:12.31 | Amia1 | no bots to compete against is one reason for me to got here :) |
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| 21:13.45 | sylvanaar | can AceLocale be told to reject translations which arent relevant to the current locale? |
| 21:14.38 | Arrowmaster | doesnt it already do that? |
| 21:15.07 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33532 10Aloft/Modules/ (GuildText.lua NPCTagData.lua NPCTagText.lua): |
| 21:15.07 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 21:15.07 | CIA-11 | - Added the ability to add NPC Tag text aliases.. eg "Stormpike Guard Recruiment Officer" can be aliased to "Stormpike Guard" to make it fit within a reasonable space |
| 21:17.00 | sylvanaar | i dont know |
| 21:17.52 | sylvanaar | it uses metatables to create a cached lookup table, but it still holds all the individual tables as far as i can tell |
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| 21:22.19 | sylvanaar | i want to have the ability to delete unused translations |
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| 21:25.30 | sylvanaar | nm, looks like it just ignores it, the code was just a little cryptic |
| 21:26.56 | JJSheets | now to run off and learn how to best drain tank... |
| 21:28.04 | Fisker- | i'm so pissed now |
| 21:28.13 | Fisker- | 3 tries at Malchezzaar @ 10% or better |
| 21:28.20 | Fisker- | Each time we get pwned by infernals |
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| 21:28.37 | Fisker- | "You're ruining my gaming experience Blizzard" |
| 21:30.34 | JJSheets | Fisker-, less QQ more "PewPew". |
| 21:31.06 | sylvanaar | drain tank - not much to learn |
| 21:31.17 | sylvanaar | cast drain life |
| 21:31.32 | sylvanaar | mob hits you |
| 21:31.41 | yacoob | goto 1 |
| 21:31.44 | JJSheets | lol |
| 21:31.46 | sylvanaar | imp shoots mob |
| 21:31.54 | Fisker- | We almost bugged him though |
| 21:31.59 | yacoob | monty python foot squashes Fisker- |
| 21:32.02 | Fisker- | I ressed while he was resetting |
| 21:32.07 | JJSheets | imp or succy better to drain tank with at lvl 30? |
| 21:32.10 | Fisker- | and i got him back at 8% |
| 21:32.14 | JJSheets | or does it matter? |
| 21:32.28 | sylvanaar | imp if it has mana |
| 21:33.39 | sylvanaar | its fun to drain tank with succy tho, she will actually cast soothing kiss |
| 21:35.03 | JJSheets | cool... I'll give em both a try for a bit in easyland. :p |
| 21:39.33 | Chompers | oooh |
| 21:39.40 | Chompers | new heroes on tonight |
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| 21:40.56 | Chompers | guess no one likes heroes here then :< |
| 21:42.12 | Kinkx | ooo! |
| 21:42.33 | Kinkx | Was wondering when they were gonna start again :D |
| 21:42.44 | yacoob | new heroes? |
| 21:42.56 | Kinkx | hehe |
| 21:43.01 | Toadkiller | You know you can cheese Malthazar till the patch comes out right? |
| 21:43.30 | Kinkx | He is getting buffed next patch? |
| 21:44.22 | Kinkx | Oh the door thing? |
| 21:44.22 | sbu | yep |
| 21:44.22 | sbu | dorr thing |
| 21:44.22 | sbu | door |
| 21:44.23 | Toadkiller | No fixed. The door is gonna close... |
| 21:44.23 | sbu | :/ |
| 21:44.23 | Toadkiller | Which is a buff if u are cheesing it i suppose |
| 21:44.23 | Kinkx | He would sometimes bug out on us when we did that, "Unable to attack that target" after he reset |
| 21:44.29 | sbu | PTR still onliny? |
| 21:44.29 | sbu | MEEH |
| 21:44.30 | sbu | online |
| 21:44.36 | sbu | so no patch tomorrow i guess? |
| 21:44.39 | Toadkiller | Mmm if u cheese it nobody should die |
| 21:44.49 | sbu | Kinkx: yeah - but you could pull some fleshbeast |
| 21:44.55 | sbu | +ae on mob + prince |
| 21:44.56 | Toadkiller | lol the PTR is gonna be up for at least 4 weeks not the usual 2 imo |
| 21:44.57 | sbu | -> aggroing again |
| 21:45.09 | [dRaCo] | looks like the cart eta thingy for waypoints got borked during the migration :/ |
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| 21:46.46 | Gnarfoz_ | Toadkiller: I always wonder how people can actually believe that the PTR will be up just 2 weeks and then a content patch (not even one as humongous as this one) will go live |
| 21:46.51 | JJSheets | Is it just me or is drain tanking a waste of mana? |
| 21:47.14 | Gnarfoz_ | just kill whatever you're tanking, it's faster I guess |
| 21:47.14 | Toadkiller | Well the usual minor patches trains them to expect 2 weeks... |
| 21:47.37 | Gnarfoz_ | PTRs have been up longer for smaller content patches than this one :\ |
| 21:47.45 | Toadkiller | Havent seen Drain tanking since doing ZG in greens & blues... |
| 21:47.53 | Gnarfoz_ | but still, they start talking "uhh patch tomorrow? patch notes are already out!" the day PTR goes up -.- |
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| 21:48.30 | Toadkiller | Hope springs eternal + most people are not software developers so the ways of BLizzard are apparently strange mysterious & random to them |
| 21:48.52 | Gnarfoz_ | they aren't random to you? ;D |
| 21:48.54 | Balstor | managers and their view of deadlines is never in sync with trality |
| 21:49.08 | Balstor | reality* |
| 21:49.26 | Toadkiller | Btw, did anyone elses mod go from working to straight up "Illegal action" on 2.1? |
| 21:49.44 | shieldb | I highly doubt there will be a patch tomorrow or in the next couple of weeks, but it wouldn't be the first time that a batch of new content went live without really being tested, heh |
| 21:50.12 | Toadkiller | No as a software developer I have an appreciation for complex software and databases and what it takes to maintain update & release... |
| 21:51.13 | Gnarfoz_ | I'm no software developer (not as my profession anyway), and I at least can imagine it's quite some work for such a big project as WoW =) |
| 21:51.25 | Toadkiller | shieldb: You only have to read the blue posts to realize that the initial PTR is to test a bunch of changes after which they will get going on BT after which they have some toher content they want to focus on... |
| 21:52.12 | Kilroo | Good grief. |
| 21:52.47 | Toadkiller | So assuming 2 weeks standard + a week each for BT & the other content, which is wildly optimistic btwe, thats 4 weeks of PTR minimum |
| 21:53.06 | Kilroo | I suppose EasyUnlock had to change because of something that was meant to stop something else. Ah well. |
| 21:53.11 | Balstor | 4 weeks until some manager goes, ship it |
| 21:53.27 | Gnarfoz_ | Killmore: it's been broken since 2.0.1 |
| 21:53.27 | Kilroo | Apparently it's still usable (or a fan update is, anyhow), you just have to click twice instead of once now. |
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| 21:53.45 | Gnarfoz_ | wrong highlight, meant Kilroo ;) |
| 21:53.51 | Balstor | anyone useing the new flexbar2?? |
| 21:53.56 | Toadkiller | Nah, theres no rush to ship here. Most people arent even in SSC yet |
| 21:54.21 | Gnarfoz_ | or killed anything in TK for that matter |
| 21:54.28 | Kilroo | ...I should just change my default to my other nick. |
| 21:54.30 | Gnarfoz_ | oh GREAT |
| 21:54.40 | Balstor | some guilds havee first 2 bosses in TK down |
| 21:54.41 | Gnarfoz_ | no ace2 mods working, woohoo -.- |
| 21:54.48 | Gnarfoz_ | Balstor: yeah, ONE guild |
| 21:55.11 | Gnarfoz_ | that's 25 players out of >8 million ;D |
| 21:55.17 | Balstor | thought some other european did it a few days after, hmmm my mistake |
| 21:55.19 | nymbia | Gnarfoz_: get your AceEvent current |
| 21:55.23 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33533 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: fix |
| 21:55.28 | Kilroo | Hmm...for all I love the description of the old QuestHistory mod I don't think I ever actually used the darn thing... |
| 21:55.38 | Gnarfoz_ | nymbia: did that a few days ago. and that would have insta-crashed my wow, not simply make my ace2 mods vanish ;) |
| 21:55.48 | Toadkiller | the point here is _MOST_ people are barely into Karazanistan |
| 21:56.06 | Toadkiller | Where _MOST_ = 99.9999% |
| 21:56.12 | Gnarfoz_ | switching from embeds to SAL because files.* "latest.txt"-update thing is not working with WAU |
| 21:56.21 | Gnarfoz_ | (whatever reason else for it exists I don't know) |
| 21:56.47 | nymbia | Gnarfoz_: crashes and PLAYER_LOGIN not firing are the same problem. |
| 21:57.04 | Gnarfoz_ | nymbia: huh? the mods were gone because SAL was not set to 'load' |
| 21:57.24 | Gnarfoz_ | heh... enabling it didn't change anything, tho |
| 21:57.30 | Kinkx | Is there any place where you can read about :SetAttribute stuff? Like what does "type1" mean :x |
| 21:57.33 | CIA-11 | 03trh * r33534 10VanasKoS/ (7 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: fixed a small design mistake in the IsOnList function, added a note that this mod is incompatible with TalentWhisper due to TalentWhispers rude usage of the global namespace. |
| 21:57.40 | JJSheets | wow, either I really SUCK at drain tanking, or I truly regret speccing for it... perhaps both. |
| 21:58.17 | Gnarfoz_ | I cant even type in chat -.- |
| 21:58.19 | nymbia | Gnarfoz_: like i said, get your AceEvent current. there's several forum threads if you need some reading materiel, i've explained it too many times over the past day or two |
| 21:58.24 | Toadkiller | Kinkx: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50956831&sid=1 |
| 21:59.23 | JJSheets | okay... well I'm off for a bit... be back later. |
| 21:59.31 | trh | nymbia: got alot of bug reports due to that... wish i could forward them guilty one ;) |
| 21:59.38 | Kinkx | Toadkiller: Thanks :) |
| 21:59.39 | trh | to the |
| 21:59.47 | nymbia | we know what the problem is |
| 21:59.48 | Gnarfoz_ | aceevent is not my problem, WAU/files.*/latest.txt/SAL is |
| 21:59.48 | Phatrik | wow this is wierd ... if I don't have BugGrabber and BugSack installed and activated, ItemRack and TrinketMenu doesn't work |
| 21:59.50 | nymbia | and it's fixed |
| 21:59.54 | Phatrik | how strange is that :S |
| 21:59.56 | nymbia | people just need to update |
| 22:00.10 | trh | nymbia: yeah.. i know... wrote it about 10 times today ;) |
| 22:00.17 | nymbia | heh |
| 22:00.34 | nymbia | i'm still curious about how it actually happened |
| 22:00.46 | nymbia | and i still don't really trust the new AceEvent |
| 22:00.54 | nymbia | but we'll see |
| 22:01.08 | trh | nymbia: i told them to use ace2 standalone.. think thats easier than explaining in detail why and which mods they have to update =) |
| 22:01.23 | nymbia | trh: fair enough :) |
| 22:02.29 | trh | can someone explain me how sick you have to be to create global functions called "whisper", "send", "party", "group" and so on? |
| 22:02.35 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33535 10Prat/ClearFont2/Core.lua: added code to disable Prat's fontsize module |
| 22:03.14 | nymbia | trh: very. |
| 22:03.21 | ckknight | so I'm sick |
| 22:03.37 | nymbia | indeed. |
| 22:03.42 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:03.44 | ckknight | kinda lame |
| 22:03.49 | nymbia | oh THAT kind |
| 22:03.56 | nymbia | that sucks :( |
| 22:05.22 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33536 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/Prat.lua: Prat: small tweak |
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| 22:06.35 | Gnarfoz_ | so for embeds, no other way then to use the index of files.* right now, right? (or drop in a copy of ace2.zip, even though that kind of defeats the purpose of embeds ^^) |
| 22:07.04 | nymbia | as far as getting a list of the current zips? |
| 22:08.21 | Gnarfoz_ | I meant "pointing my browser to that page and getting what I have installed" instead of "press f12 in WAU"... but actually I guess I should just use "release versions" from the UI pages - sadly most addons are never released ;D |
| 22:08.49 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07PratPlugin-1.0 * r33537 10Prat/PratPlugin-1.0.toc: PratPlugin-1.0: small edit of description |
| 22:09.54 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar * r33538 10PratPlugin-1.0/: PratPlugin-1.0: branch to trunk |
| 22:11.08 | Ominous | ohh |
| 22:11.41 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz_ can you back up what you are saying |
| 22:11.57 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz_ that aceevent is not your problem |
| 22:12.22 | Gnarfoz_ | sylvanaar: sure: I was stupid enough to actually think "LAL" has any use other than to make "SAL" not work |
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| 22:12.44 | sylvanaar | even though i explained that earlier today at length |
| 22:13.48 | sylvanaar | LAL just sets the default mode of WAU to Without Externals |
| 22:14.04 | Gnarfoz_ | yep, I figured that out |
| 22:16.43 | vodrin | easiest way to hide mouseover character tooltip from the bottom-right? |
| 22:18.16 | [dRaCo] | uninstalling wow o0 |
| 22:18.40 | Gnarfoz_ | takes to long, just format c: /q |
| 22:19.12 | yacoob | how about restore from image file? |
| 22:19.13 | nevcairiel | doesnt work with windows running of it |
| 22:19.17 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar * r33539 10PratPlugin-1.0/PratPlugin-1.0.toc: PratPlugin-1.0: link to wiki page and forum thread |
| 22:19.29 | yacoob | nevcairiel, how about deltree c:/ ? :) |
| 22:20.08 | Gnarfoz_ | deltree was removed, iirc? |
| 22:20.19 | Gnarfoz_ | since I can now attribute the trouble (which really actually had nothing to do with aceevent ;)) to my own denseness, I'd like to apologize for any rudeness that may have come across, sylvanaar, nymbia and anyone else whose toes I might have stepped on in the process. As for the denseness, no excuse there, perhaps more sleep could help ;o) |
| 22:20.34 | Kilroo | Hm, I think I'm almost done with what I can actually accomplish as far as getting addons downloaded to try out when I activate my BC trial. Just a few things left...time to ask for a few more pieces of advice. First questions: Can anyone either confirm that despite apparently not having been updated in quite a while Tinypad still works, or tell me it actually has been updated in the last four months, or tell me what they think I shou |
| 22:21.04 | vhaarr | Tinypad works fine. |
| 22:21.33 | nevcairiel | yeah i still use it too |
| 22:21.39 | nymbia | Gnarfoz_: no worries :) |
| 22:21.54 | Kilroo | That'll do nicely then. |
| 22:22.22 | Aiiane | someone mentioned an addon the other day that allows you to add notes to item tooltips, can anyone remind me of the name? |
| 22:22.23 | sylvanaar | no probz |
| 22:22.37 | hyperChipmunk | Engrave |
| 22:22.43 | hyperChipmunk | or Engravings |
| 22:22.46 | hyperChipmunk | or something like that |
| 22:22.53 | hyperChipmunk | ask Tekkub |
| 22:22.53 | Kilroo | Oh good, and I remembered where to find the pages I had before, too. |
| 22:22.53 | sylvanaar | i think rd /s works |
| 22:23.22 | Gnarfoz_ | when I do stuff like that I can't believe I staff the customer support phone hotline -_- (or perhaps THEIR denseness is actually seeping through the phone onto me ;D) |
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| 22:25.22 | nymbia | haha |
| 22:26.48 | Kilroo | Hokay. Next question. I used to use AceCallOut so I could holler for help when I was getting waxed without having to think about it. The only thing I've found so far with that kind of functionality is something called AutoShoutOut. Anyone have a recommendation in that category? |
| 22:27.19 | Kilroo | ("Don't use it, that irritates everyone and usually doesn't get you help any quicker" is a valid recommendation.) |
| 22:27.22 | TecnoBrat | Tornhoof, ping? |
| 22:27.25 | kaiden | Get lots of friends to play in the same room as you and scream like a little girl when you need help? |
| 22:27.26 | kaiden | :) |
| 22:27.51 | Antiarc|Work | Kilroo: I'd say "don't use it" and tell your groupmates to lern2play ;) |
| 22:28.30 | Antiarc|Work | Stuff like Grid has made it a lot easier for healers to track and manage their parties/raids |
| 22:28.35 | kaiden | and in all honesty when i play a healer having someone constantly say heal me pisses me off |
| 22:28.38 | ckknight | woo, I think I finally figured out ternary syntax for DogTag |
| 22:28.40 | kaiden | i tend to let them die on purpose |
| 22:28.53 | Antiarc|Work | Hahah, yeah, I'm guilty of that. >_> |
| 22:28.56 | ckknight | I know everyone wants to do crazy stuff like [name:short?curhp:color(ff0000)?curmana!maxmana!maxxp:short] |
| 22:28.59 | TecnoBrat | Has anyone had any success getting Yata totem sets working? |
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| 22:29.30 | kaiden | TechnoBrat, yes, you create a set bind a key and hit it multiple times |
| 22:31.08 | Kilroo | With me it typically isn't a constant kind of thing, at least not unless the tank can't hold aggro. I'll go without for now. |
| 22:31.15 | sylvanaar | ckknight does dogtag work for one up call's? if i pass in a unit and a format string it gives me a result statelessly? |
| 22:31.19 | Antiarc|Work | Kilroo: What class? |
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| 22:31.24 | Kilroo | Rogue |
| 22:31.30 | Antiarc|Work | lern2feint/vanish! :D |
| 22:31.31 | ckknight | sylvanaar: one up? |
| 22:31.34 | Antiarc|Work | <--rogue as well |
| 22:31.51 | ckknight | sylvanaar: oh, for it to work without a fontstring? |
| 22:31.55 | Kilroo | I think when I first picked up AceCallOut I couldn't vanish yet. |
| 22:31.57 | sylvanaar | ckknight ie. not registering any type of watch/monitoring |
| 22:31.59 | kaiden | mmmm red robin |
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| 22:32.02 | Kilroo | I don't remember a "feint." |
| 22:32.06 | Antiarc|Work | ctrl-Q = vanish, ctrl-w = feint, ctrl-e = evasion. All my escape buttons at my fingertips! :D |
| 22:32.06 | kaiden | chili chili cheeseburger with onion ring sauce on it |
| 22:32.18 | Antiarc|Work | Feint is picked up about level 20ish, and is just a flat threat reducer |
| 22:32.28 | sylvanaar | ckknight yeah, where i could call it and get back just the string |
| 22:32.39 | ckknight | sylvanaar: so something like DogTag:GetResult("target", "[curhp]") |
| 22:32.47 | Kilroo | Hm, I think I skipped that. |
| 22:32.52 | sylvanaar | ckknight exactly |
| 22:32.53 | Antiarc|Work | (Hope I'm not coming across as condescending. I'm just in a good mood. :) ) |
| 22:33.00 | Kilroo | Anywho, moving on. |
| 22:33.01 | ckknight | sylvanaar: what'd be a good method name? |
| 22:33.18 | kaiden | Antiarc|Work, totally condescending... noob |
| 22:33.20 | kaiden | :P |
| 22:33.26 | kaiden | you aren't btw hehe |
| 22:33.34 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Parse()? |
| 22:33.44 | ckknight | sounds good to me |
| 22:34.09 | sylvanaar | BuildTag, GenerateTag, GetTag with maybe with "ForUnit" at the end |
| 22:34.13 | Antiarc|Work | Or Eval() |
| 22:34.16 | kaiden | Antiarc|Work, is your rogue 70? if so, how are they up there, i stopped mine at 60 |
| 22:34.27 | Ominous | mutilate FTW |
| 22:34.30 | Antiarc|Work | kaiden: Yeah, and cloak of shadows makes worlds of difference. |
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| 22:34.46 | Kilroo | It sounds from what I'm reading like there is a branch of SuperInspect that has maintained, while obviously not the ability to inspect at range, at least the ability to keep the window up...by caching the information, apparently. Is it pretty safe to assume that if that's the case...that's probably the only mod that'll do it? |
| 22:34.56 | Antiarc|Work | I use Voyuer for that, Kilroo |
| 22:35.06 | Antiarc|Work | Voyeur? Voyuer? I don't remember how to spell it. |
| 22:35.13 | ckknight | actually, :Evaluate is probably best |
| 22:35.26 | kaiden | http://files.wowace.com/Voyeur/ |
| 22:35.33 | ckknight | since it's more than just parsing and such |
| 22:35.42 | ckknight | it's parsing, compiling, then executing |
| 22:35.52 | Antiarc|Work | Cloak of Shadows is...well, it completely changes the class dynamic in PVP, and it's a really nice little boost in PVE |
| 22:35.55 | Gnarfoz_ | Kilroo: you're referring to SuperInspect (smurfy) |
| 22:36.01 | Antiarc|Work | Shiv is also fantastic in PVP |
| 22:36.02 | Kilroo | Yes, I am |
| 22:36.13 | Gnarfoz_ | Kilroo: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/favorites/go/962689/ |
| 22:36.24 | sylvanaar | sounds good, i used Render in Prat |
| 22:36.29 | kaiden | Gnarfoz_, for shame, dont' send them to non ace based addons! :P |
| 22:36.30 | kaiden | lol |
| 22:36.31 | Gnarfoz_ | actually, more like: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5992/superinspect-smurfy/ |
| 22:36.50 | Gnarfoz_ | kaiden: no zealot here, and: it does what it's supposed to do ;) |
| 22:37.06 | kaiden | ya but voyeur is so much kinkier to use just because of the name |
| 22:37.09 | kaiden | ;) |
| 22:37.13 | Gnarfoz_ | great reason to use it |
| 22:37.21 | kaiden | yup |
| 22:37.43 | Gnarfoz_ | does it have bonus calculation? 'how many parts of set X does the inspected guy wear?' and stuff? :> |
| 22:39.01 | Gnarfoz_ | ckknight: I saw some changes to layouts in the recent commits to PitBull, do I have to reset SVs? Most things seem to work fine, but my castbar is either the wrong size or at the wrong position ;) http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/pitbull/castbar_height.jpg |
| 22:39.02 | Depherios | only thing it lacks that I'd ever ask for, is armor calculations |
| 22:39.26 | Kilroo | Voyeur doesn't give any indication on the wiki that it will let you keep inspecting someone after they move out of range, though... |
| 22:39.26 | kaiden | I personally miss Chester the guy who originally made SuperInspect |
| 22:39.33 | kaiden | he made so many cool addons, wonder what happened to him |
| 22:39.38 | kaiden | Kilroo, it does |
| 22:39.39 | kaiden | i use it |
| 22:39.45 | Antiarc|Work | It does. |
| 22:40.04 | Gnarfoz_ | guess what happened to many people that once made great addons: stopped playing this addictive game :> |
| 22:40.05 | Kilroo | Ok. Cool. |
| 22:40.53 | kaiden | Gnarfoz_, some just got tired of people bugging them all the time and just use their websites to make money for them now without updating their addons |
| 22:41.00 | NeoTron | hrm antoher non-ace adon I can replace? |
| 22:41.00 | kaiden | and create pipe dreams of the addons being updated |
| 22:41.06 | NeoTron | (superinspect) |
| 22:41.11 | Kilroo | I might still go with SuperInspect because I vaguely recall liking the improved ability to see how someone looked in the gear they had on...not sure though. I'll finish my questions after dinner I reckon, though, gotta run. |
| 22:41.11 | kaiden | by saying i'll be updating it on this date then on that date push it back a few more months |
| 22:41.21 | Gnarfoz_ | kaiden: neat idea ;D |
| 22:41.37 | Antiarc|Work | Kilroo: Cosplay does that :) |
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| 22:47.30 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33540 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 22:47.30 | CIA-11 | DogTag-1.0 - separate the parsing and compilation process, should make it easier to add new things because of this. |
| 22:47.30 | CIA-11 | - added ternary statements, e.g. [cond?whentrue!whenfalse] |
| 22:47.30 | CIA-11 | - added :Evaluate("unit", "code") |
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| 22:50.06 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33541 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - a blank tag, e.g. [] or when used in a sequence, [thing?whentrue!], it will force nil/blank |
| 22:56.24 | ckknight | There is an if-statement syntax available to you, in the form of one of the three: [condition:whenfalse], [condition?whentrue], or [condition?whentrue!whenfalse] (assuming whenfalse and whentrue are tags and not modifiers). |
| 22:56.29 | ckknight | alright, that's how it works |
| 22:56.42 | ckknight | that's clear enough, right? |
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| 22:56.44 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33542 10simpleMinimap/ (7 files in 2 dirs): simpleMinimap: Reduced the number of calls into AceModuleCore, made some option tables into passing tables and had to rearrange it a bit to not go insane while trying to read the code. |
| 22:59.12 | sylvanaar | ckknight is there a comparison between 2 units? like [InCurrentZone:Zone] where currentzone is Zone("player") im botching your syntax, but you prolly get my meaning |
| 22:59.46 | ckknight | um |
| 23:00.08 | ckknight | you could make [insamezoneas(player)] |
| 23:00.09 | ckknight | or something |
| 23:01.13 | sylvanaar | basically do like player tooltips and only show the zone if it is different from yours |
| 23:02.25 | Arrowmaster | player tooltips only show the zone when UnitVisable("unit") isnt true |
| 23:02.32 | kergoth | i've been thinking about it.. and i think that if someone was to design the worst possible job for me, they'd come up with the job i have now. |
| 23:02.56 | vhaarr | kergoth: you work for openedhand or what it's called, right? |
| 23:03.03 | kergoth | not anymore |
| 23:03.05 | vhaarr | oh |
| 23:03.26 | kergoth | this is a driver development job on a non-linux proprietary embedded os |
| 23:03.31 | vhaarr | ouch |
| 23:03.36 | kergoth | if you take what i hate, a code monkey position, development without design, and add in general dynamics red tape and beaurocratic bs, and take away linux, which i love... thats this job |
| 23:04.00 | vhaarr | I'm sure some people would love that kind of job though |
| 23:04.07 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: wow that sucks |
| 23:04.10 | vhaarr | sadists |
| 23:04.20 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster ah, well, i thougt it would be useful to show the subzone if they are in the same zone, or the zone if they are in a different zone |
| 23:04.27 | ulic | vhaarr: does BigWigs do any throttling if you don't use Sync? for example Pathaleon casts Summon Nether Wraith 3 times all at the same time, but you don't really need 3 messages. |
| 23:04.27 | CIA-11 | 03usz * r33543 10PrivateChat/Core.lua: |
| 23:04.27 | CIA-11 | PrivateChat |
| 23:04.27 | CIA-11 | - Force unsafe hook |
| 23:04.40 | vhaarr | ulic: It doesn't throttle without syncing, no. |
| 23:04.43 | kergoth | Arrowmaster, yes. |
| 23:04.48 | ulic | figured |
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| 23:05.01 | kergoth | at gd, to get gvim installed on a machine there, my coworker had to fill out like 5 forms, and get a requisition for $0 for it |
| 23:05.08 | Funkeh` | ckknight: the portraits in the praty frames have gone.. wierd, i /rl and it works then about 10 seconds later it changes, and it gives me a frontal view of the whole body of the char, instead of the 3D face |
| 23:05.17 | vhaarr | haha |
| 23:05.20 | vhaarr | kergoth: are you joking? |
| 23:05.20 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:05.22 | vhaarr | what's gd? |
| 23:05.24 | sylvanaar | yeah, embedded sucks, because its all structured programming |
| 23:05.24 | kergoth | nope, completely serious |
| 23:05.32 | kergoth | general dynamics, they're a government/military contractor |
| 23:05.37 | vhaarr | yeah I know them |
| 23:05.44 | kergoth | they have more middle management than developers |
| 23:05.46 | vhaarr | that sucks |
| 23:05.46 | kergoth | its sad |
| 23:05.57 | kergoth | i figure they have to fill out a form to go pee |
| 23:06.01 | ckknight | Funkeh`: funky |
| 23:06.35 | sylvanaar | oh govt jobs, people make whole carreers out of RFP's for govt contracts |
| 23:06.36 | shieldb | kergoth, probably not to go pee, but make sure you requisition the flush in advance |
| 23:06.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:06.45 | Funkeh` | ulic: you can supress events like that by setting a local to 1/0 |
| 23:06.50 | Funkeh` | ulic: see the gruul module |
| 23:07.27 | ulic | Funkeh`: I'll take a look, thanks for the tip |
| 23:08.54 | Funkeh` | ckknight: good word to describe it |
| 23:09.05 | shieldb | anyone who's running ssc found a way to determine whether a colossus is using spore quake or the lag cannon before they fire off the ability the first time? |
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| 23:11.01 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33544 10simpleMinimap/modules/skins.lua: simpleMinimap: skins: Killed more AMC calls, thanks nymbia. |
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| 23:12.30 | abyssichate | Can anyone say what addon is the one that's being used to track the cooldowns (in this case evocation, at the middle of the screen, at about 2:00 minutes of the movie): http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=37371 ? |
| 23:13.52 | JoshBorke | screen shot please |
| 23:13.52 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33545 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - trim beginning, trailing, and multiple spaces. |
| 23:14.10 | abyssichate | right, a screenshot would be much better |
| 23:14.11 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r33546 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Change implementation of GetReactionLevel to be significantly faster. (4x faster in best case, ~10x faster in worst.) |
| 23:14.12 | abyssichate | give me a second, sorry |
| 23:14.51 | JoshBorke | abyssichate: it's a mod called coolDown |
| 23:14.58 | JoshBorke | you can find it on the wowace files repository |
| 23:15.43 | abyssichate | Oh, many thanks :) |
| 23:16.51 | kaiden | par2 checking a 5gb dvd + running hordes of applications + wow == boggy system |
| 23:16.52 | kaiden | :P |
| 23:17.28 | [dRaCo] | get a quadcore! |
| 23:18.26 | kergoth | its unlikely that his cpu is the bottleneck there |
| 23:18.32 | kergoth | would more likely benefit from a raid |
| 23:20.03 | [dRaCo] | well, yeah... but that would mean buying something really useful |
| 23:20.13 | [dRaCo] | quadcores are... overkill |
| 23:20.16 | [dRaCo] | at least for most ppl |
| 23:22.07 | sbu | ckknight: dogtag is awesome :o |
| 23:22.09 | Gnarfoz_ | I hate it when I stand at The Overlook, it goes neutral, then the PVP objective bar disappears and I am unable to capture it until the other faction captures it again >_< |
| 23:22.14 | ckknight | sbu: :-) |
| 23:22.26 | ckknight | sbu: feel free to add tags/modifiers you feel necessary |
| 23:22.30 | kaiden | yeah the hd is my only problem |
| 23:22.35 | kaiden | just spent 1500 on a new system |
| 23:22.44 | kaiden | only thing i didn't have money for was a new set of drives |
| 23:23.22 | kaiden | gonna get a 15k rpm scsi drive to function as my boot drive or would anyone have a different suggestion |
| 23:23.28 | vhaarr | ulic: For the polarity stuff, take a look at the Thaddius module and BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows |
| 23:23.31 | kaiden | it would contain all the stuff i want to run (wow + windows) |
| 23:23.37 | vhaarr | ulic: For Capacitus. |
| 23:24.00 | Eternally777 | kaiden: Get 5, 1 for windows, 1 for pagefile, 3 in a raid for WoW. gg. |
| 23:24.15 | kergoth | [dRaCo], <3 my scsi array. 10k rpm drives in raid 0 = smokin |
| 23:24.19 | ulic | vhaarr: ok |
| 23:25.02 | kaiden | Eternally777, do you know if the current 7200 rpm perpendicular drives function as well as the scsi systems |
| 23:25.28 | kaiden | someone said they were as speedy and optimized at accessing data just due to the way the data is stored |
| 23:25.30 | CIA-11 | 03shieldb * r33547 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc Locale-deDE.lua): |
| 23:25.30 | CIA-11 | Incubator: Underbog Colossi are no longer specifically tied to Hydross |
| 23:25.30 | CIA-11 | - Tied murloc packs to Morogrim Tidewalker |
| 23:25.47 | kergoth | 15k's would be awfully nice. so pricey though |
| 23:25.49 | Eternally777 | TBH, 15k is prolly overkill. Just go w/ 3 10k raptors. |
| 23:25.57 | kergoth | the 10ks have really come down |
| 23:26.05 | Gnarfoz_ | and don't save data you want to keep on a raid 0 ;D |
| 23:26.17 | kergoth | my dad won a couple of 18 drive 10krpm cheetah arrays in enclosures for like $5 each |
| 23:26.18 | kergoth | long shot bids ftw |
| 23:26.26 | Eternally777 | Yeah. |
| 23:26.32 | Eternally777 | kergoth: nice... |
| 23:26.51 | kergoth | whats that raid that distributes the parity across the drives? |
| 23:26.52 | Ordog | Gnarfoz_ using raid 10 / raid 01 negates that :) |
| 23:26.54 | kergoth | i want to go with that one |
| 23:27.03 | [dRaCo] | kergoth, yeah. you won't anything against raids from me :) |
| 23:27.15 | Gnarfoz_ | Ordog: just using raid 5/6 would also do the trick, when there's already 3 drives in the pool :D |
| 23:27.16 | Eternally777 | I want to install WoW on the PCs at work... 30 15k RPM SCSI drives in a raid, sitting right in front of me, and I can't do anything with them :-( |
| 23:27.32 | [dRaCo] | that'd be 5 *tries to remember all those numbers* |
| 23:27.48 | kergoth | theres so many variants |
| 23:28.01 | Ordog | erm ya, my pool is not that big ^^ |
| 23:28.06 | kergoth | and then you get into the non-standard ones, that every company went with their own implementation |
| 23:28.35 | kergoth | remind me not to hit alt-f4 to switch desktops out of habit when i'm in windows. |
| 23:28.38 | Ordog | actually there are only 3 or 4 raid variants still "in use" by the majority of users |
| 23:29.14 | [dRaCo] | I'm not sure if choosing scsi drives over sata ones gives you an advantage worth the price |
| 23:29.40 | Chompers | Its overkill |
| 23:30.23 | kergoth | for a power user, a raid is not overkill. i wont debate scsi vs sata, see that more as personal preference |
| 23:30.27 | kaiden | [dRaCo], yeah because currently i can get a perpendicular 7200.10 seagate drive for 79 bucks and those are 320gb drives |
| 23:31.31 | [dRaCo] | wow, that's nice. even kinda cheap... |
| 23:32.01 | kaiden | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 |
| 23:32.03 | kaiden | sorry 84.99 |
| 23:32.53 | kergoth | hows the perpendicular thing work? god, i need to pay attention to technologies, subscribe to magazines again, i'm falling behind |
| 23:33.12 | kaiden | kergoth, a magnetic head rolls over the data standing it up on end |
| 23:33.17 | kaiden | here i have the PERFECT video to explain it |
| 23:33.20 | kaiden | and it's funny too :P |
| 23:33.50 | kaiden | http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_head/pr/PerpendicularAnimation.html |
| 23:34.11 | kergoth | what i've always liked about scsi drives is the really high mtbf. so reliable compared to the pata crap |
| 23:34.34 | sylvanaar | yep 0,1,5,10,50 is pretty much it |
| 23:35.15 | kergoth | i think my dad finally stopped using his 8 gig full height 5 1/4 barracuda 6 months ago, just to save space in his case |
| 23:35.29 | sylvanaar | most scsi drives with ide/ata counterparts have the same internals |
| 23:35.57 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33548 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 23:35.57 | CIA-11 | DogTag-1.0 - bugfix to :Evaluate - gotta make sure to antialias first. |
| 23:35.57 | CIA-11 | - make sure aliases pass parameters properly |
| 23:35.57 | CIA-11 | - add modifiers :isequal, :isnotequal, :isless, :isgreater, :isgreaterequal, :islessequal. |
| 23:35.57 | CIA-11 | - aliased :hide, :hideless, :hidegreater, :hidelessequal, :hidegreaterequal, :hideunless to the :is* thingies. |
| 23:36.18 | kergoth | ugh, dizzy spell |
| 23:36.21 | kergoth | i thought i was done with these |
| 23:36.29 | sylvanaar | they just have a different "factory rating" + maybe warranty |
| 23:36.33 | kergoth | its been over a week since i first got bronchitis |
| 23:36.42 | kergoth | you know whats really weird |
| 23:36.49 | kergoth | being dizzy when you're sitting or laying down |
| 23:37.02 | xyu | strange, i installed bigwigs and now my fubar_clockfu, clique, Fubar_durabilityFu, have all ceased to function or even show up in my UI |
| 23:37.05 | kergoth | its not like i'm going to lose my balance and fall |
| 23:37.09 | kergoth | its just odd |
| 23:37.22 | kaiden | ah interesting, i thought the raptor 10k rpm drives were scsi only |
| 23:37.30 | kaiden | apparently sata 150 as well |
| 23:37.37 | sylvanaar | thre are 10k ata raptors |
| 23:37.49 | sylvanaar | its the 15k that is scsi only |
| 23:38.34 | sylvanaar | and ill never buy one again- they are too freaking loud |
| 23:38.38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:38.39 | kaiden | lol |
| 23:38.40 | xyu | ype |
| 23:38.41 | xyu | yep |
| 23:38.56 | kaiden | i was quite impressed with my new system, you can't hear anything in it except the hd |
| 23:38.58 | kergoth | the cheetahs used to be like that too, the first few revisions |
| 23:39.03 | kergoth | much improved nowadays |
| 23:39.05 | kaiden | and it has 6 fans in the case |
| 23:39.05 | sylvanaar | i had 8 in my office, pulled the plug on em |
| 23:39.34 | xyu | my computer used to sound like a vacuum cleaner |
| 23:39.43 | xyu | kind of embarressed at lan parties :P |
| 23:39.48 | sylvanaar | yeah, i had twin cheetahs going in here back around 2000 |
| 23:40.09 | kergoth | the spin up was funny, it sounded like a jet taking off or something |
| 23:40.12 | Gnarfoz_ | ckknight: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/pitbull/castbar_height2.jpg <- any ideas on the castbar being behind the mana bar in one frame, in front on the other (and in both cases: too small/not high enough or in the wrong position)? |
| 23:40.37 | ckknight | Gnarfoz_: odd |
| 23:40.56 | ckknight | dunno, it shouldn't touch, theoretically. |
| 23:41.39 | sylvanaar | yeah, my office is still noisy, but not as much. i have removed fans and drives to quiet it down |
| 23:41.48 | [dRaCo] | what about data integrity using that perpendicular tech? stuffing more data into less space usually leads to more screwups and sensitivity... |
| 23:41.59 | Gnarfoz_ | looked good yesterday, so I guess one of the changes later yesterday or early today must have done something (noticed some ABF or general layout changes in the log) |
| 23:42.25 | kergoth | my setup got a ton quieter just switching to a really nice antec case, one of the ones with the split areas that are sound isolated |
| 23:42.54 | sylvanaar | i can hear the heads on one of the drives in my array reset every so often, i hope my new one arrives soon |
| 23:44.05 | ckknight | okay, Gnarfoz_ |
| 23:44.05 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33549 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull-Layout-ABF - remove the 1px separation between health and mana, preliminarily. |
| 23:44.05 | Gnarfoz_ | checking |
| 23:44.10 | kergoth | my dad used to have lights on the front of his case, one for each of the 8 drives in his primary array.. he'd spot one dying before data loss just by noticing the light patterns were different from the rest |
| 23:44.16 | kergoth | thats a useful thing |
| 23:44.29 | [dRaCo] | uh... I liked that 1 px :/ |
| 23:44.43 | kergoth | make a custom layout |
| 23:44.44 | Gnarfoz_ | actually, I think it grew back to 2px, is that possible? |
| 23:44.50 | kergoth | can inherit ABF now |
| 23:45.06 | ckknight | Gnarfoz_: *shrug* |
| 23:45.06 | Gnarfoz_ | kergoth: that's both awesome and weird at the same time ;D |
| 23:45.13 | kergoth | layout inheritence ftw |
| 23:45.27 | ckknight | yea, make a custom layout, Gnarfoz_ |
| 23:45.29 | ckknight | fix the issue |
| 23:45.33 | ckknight | and then fix it upstream |
| 23:45.35 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 23:45.47 | Gnarfoz_ | kergoth: stop giving him ideas :< |
| 23:45.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:47.04 | [dRaCo] | is there a readme or something concerning custom layouts? |
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| 23:47.18 | Gnarfoz_ | oh |
| 23:47.19 | Gnarfoz_ | interesting |
| 23:47.24 | Gnarfoz_ | "you are dead." |
| 23:47.44 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33550 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - allow aliases to have parameters by having something like myalisas = "something(arg)" |
| 23:48.08 | Kilroo | Ok, moving along back to annoying you people with questions. |
| 23:48.09 | ckknight | no [dRaCo], not really |
| 23:48.22 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: it's pretty simple, though |
| 23:48.29 | ckknight | you basically have a table |
| 23:48.37 | ckknight | and the keys represent the frames you manipulate |
| 23:48.40 | pastamancer | I need someone with WAU 1.7 to do a full update |
| 23:48.40 | ckknight | e.g. healthBar |
| 23:49.02 | ckknight | and then you manipulate it with a function |
| 23:49.46 | [dRaCo] | ok, I'll give it a try, thanks. |
| 23:50.05 | Kilroo | Is there anything besides Recap (or rather, I suppose, Recap (Hawksy)?) that provides that sort of ability to compare, for example, my DPS over the course of an instance with that of someone else in the group? I always found that sort of fun to look at, but didn't use Recap for much else... |
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| 23:50.23 | kenlyric | sw_stats is the most common one these days. |
| 23:50.34 | Kilroo | Hmm... |
| 23:50.39 | Kilroo | It figures. |
| 23:50.43 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: ping |
| 23:51.03 | ZealotOnAStick | SW_Stats is probably the most flexible with regards to that. |
| 23:51.33 | Kilroo | I think of the other similar-looking addons I found, sw_stats is one of only two that I didn't look at and discover that it seemed to track your own output/input only. |
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| 23:52.16 | Kilroo | If I decide I'm not interested in the comparisons but still want more info for myself than most DPS meter type things offer, is Nanostats a good choice? |
| 23:52.18 | ulic | DamageMeters used I think, but I have no idea if it's even still around. |
| 23:53.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Not really, IMO. |
| 23:53.49 | ZealotOnAStick | either Recap or SW_Stats. |
| 23:54.17 | ZealotOnAStick | SW_Stats has some detail information you can specify for it to process for yourself . . . how many casts, damage/mana efficiency of spells, etc. |
| 23:54.36 | kenlyric | if sw_Stats gave more options for creating timelines, it would be better. |
| 23:54.38 | TecnoBrat | swstats allows you to see anything you want .. damage from types of spells, % of crits, etc etc etc |
| 23:54.40 | ZealotOnAStick | and if you really wanted to, I think you can still go make your own custom regexps to have it parse |
| 23:54.54 | ZealotOnAStick | kenlyric: more options? How do you mean? |
| 23:55.28 | kenlyric | I haven't found an option to just let start a new checkpoint when I wish. |
| 23:56.08 | Megalon | kenlyric: /swstats reset <nameofnewsegment> |
| 23:56.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, if you're in a raid and you choose to sync, then you have to do the reset vote. |
| 23:56.11 | TecnoBrat | ./sws reset "Name of Segment" |
| 23:56.22 | kenlyric | a real option. |
| 23:56.29 | ZealotOnAStick | which everyone should be instructed how awesome it is to make sure vote yes is checked. |
| 23:56.31 | xyu | doesn't sw_stats FORCE you to sync now? |
| 23:56.33 | xyu | which i really really hate |
| 23:56.36 | xyu | or did they finally change that |
| 23:57.04 | kenlyric | there's no optoin that I know for it. |
| 23:57.10 | xyu | right |
| 23:57.16 | xyu | no option, which means when you're in, you're synced |
| 23:57.24 | TecnoBrat | kenlyric, whats wrong with /sws reset "name"? |
| 23:57.26 | ven | after recent pitbull/dogtag update my health and mana text stopped updating. health and mana bar are moving, tho. anyone else got this problem? |
| 23:57.48 | kenlyric | TecnoBrat: because that's a command line option. It needs a real option. |
| 23:57.53 | ckknight | ven: lemme check it out |
| 23:58.24 | ZealotOnAStick | command line options = not real? |
| 23:58.29 | kergoth | Kilroo, i find kombatstats to be a good one for looking at personal damage details, things like what % of your total damage was spell X |
| 23:58.37 | kenlyric | ZealotOnAStick: no. |
| 23:58.44 | Kilroo | Ok. Thanks. |
| 23:58.48 | kergoth | i use that, and a damagemeters/swstats addon if i care about where i stand with everyone else |
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| 23:59.12 | kenlyric | ZealotOnAStick: I think I've long established the level of my laziness :) |
