| 00:00.26 | TecnoBrat | sweet .. there is an option for crit :) |
| 00:00.26 | Sole | kk thats me ^_^ |
| 00:00.33 | Sole | makes sense, below top 300 it would just be too much data |
| 00:00.41 | nymbia | yeah i'm in there too somewhere |
| 00:00.43 | nymbia | lol |
| 00:01.26 | Sole | ok gonna go have breakfast, thanks for the very handy tool nymbia |
| 00:01.58 | Sole | I have a feeling its gonna get a lot of attention soon |
| 00:01.58 | Amadeo | Don't have breakfast, it's 8 PM! |
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| 00:02.02 | NightHawkTheSane | 8pm is a FANTASTIC time to have breakfast. |
| 00:02.13 | Chompers | agreed |
| 00:02.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: I suggest pancakes. |
| 00:02.26 | Chompers | 3am is perfect for dinner too |
| 00:02.39 | TecnoBrat | Man, this new "Stat Summary" is crazy for druids |
| 00:02.41 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:02.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Nah 3 am is a late night snack time. |
| 00:02.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Midnight is dinner time |
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| 00:03.21 | Morgh|Sleep | TecnoBrat: What's that? |
| 00:03.32 | NightHawkTheSane | new feature in Rating Buster |
| 00:03.37 | Morghus | Oh sweet! |
| 00:03.49 | TecnoBrat | Its too confusing almost for druids .. too many stats listed |
| 00:04.03 | TecnoBrat | Might be nice if it shows based on what form you are in .. I dunno |
| 00:04.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyone know where the 2 new non-trained alchy recipes are? |
| 00:04.53 | NightHawkTheSane | TecnoBrat: Yeah, i have that problem too on my shaman. Completely different stats i want to compare for enh and healing gear |
| 00:05.13 | TecnoBrat | Hmmm or maybe its not so bad |
| 00:05.19 | TecnoBrat | I see what my problem is |
| 00:05.29 | TecnoBrat | I had feral gear on .. and hovering over a healing item |
| 00:05.37 | TecnoBrat | so its showing me the feral points I lose |
| 00:05.40 | TecnoBrat | and the healing points I gain |
| 00:06.23 | TecnoBrat | but if I switch to healing gear .. hover over a healing item .. its nice and clean. |
| 00:06.28 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 00:07.32 | TecnoBrat | it has lots of extra options that are disabled as well |
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| 00:08.40 | TecnoBrat | This is where Niagra comes in ... lol |
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| 00:10.41 | TecnoBrat | wow DnT and Drama are like crazy zerg guilds now |
| 00:10.58 | Megalon | that rating buster "compare" feature is nice, but not everyone is mage/wl/rogue where you can compare every item for every specc :/ |
| 00:11.01 | TecnoBrat | They've had so many people who just play casually now |
| 00:11.17 | TecnoBrat | Megalon, there is a TON of extra options |
| 00:11.26 | TecnoBrat | if you want to compare fire dmg, you can |
| 00:11.27 | Megalon | yea |
| 00:11.31 | Megalon | but it's |
| 00:11.39 | Megalon | like to much ;D |
| 00:11.43 | Amadeo | I hope Warhammer Online has instant updating of "honor" or whatever their point system is :P |
| 00:12.06 | Megalon | and if you add more stats to compare |
| 00:12.20 | Megalon | the tooltips get quite big :( |
| 00:12.39 | ckknight | I'm looking forward to Warhammer Online, if only for the competition to WoW |
| 00:13.30 | Bibi`ouF | yeah |
| 00:13.32 | Sole | yep |
| 00:13.34 | Bibi`ouF | Bibi won't sleep tonight ! \o/ |
| 00:13.39 | Sole | it'l really put the WoW devs into gear |
| 00:13.42 | NightHawkTheSane | okay... blizzard's debuff timer can accurately track sunder. weeeeeeeee |
| 00:13.53 | Amadeo | ckknight: Yeah, I bet Blizzard releases some crazy shit whenever Warhammer gets released |
| 00:14.02 | Sole | I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of neat stuff when warhammer comes out |
| 00:14.02 | ckknight | same. |
| 00:14.15 | Sole | not too keen on WAR |
| 00:14.18 | ckknight | and check out what kind of coding environment they allow... |
| 00:14.25 | ckknight | I've heard rumors that they'll have an addon system |
| 00:14.30 | ckknight | hope that's true |
| 00:14.38 | Sole | "Capture your enemie's capital city!...throw apples at their king!...DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN!" |
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| 00:14.58 | Bibi`ouF | Blizzard already released crazy shit |
| 00:15.00 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=112.0 |
| 00:15.01 | Bibi`ouF | ^^ |
| 00:17.01 | Sole | well of souls encounter is gonna have damage coming from the floor |
| 00:17.10 | Sole | similiar floor layout as heigan/onyxia |
| 00:17.28 | Sole | those are always fun O_o |
| 00:18.44 | TecnoBrat | Oh another encounter our shitty priest will die on |
| 00:18.47 | TecnoBrat | Like Gruul |
| 00:18.59 | TecnoBrat | where she cant move out of the falling ceiling |
| 00:19.15 | TecnoBrat | WTB 2 good holy/dis priests ... |
| 00:20.00 | ckknight | omg, the internet is so slow today |
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| 00:20.44 | Chompers | which one? |
| 00:20.51 | art3mis | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/azzinoth.jpg |
| 00:20.56 | TecnoBrat | TEH TUBBES R KLOGD |
| 00:23.54 | Amadeo | Hello? Is this thing on? |
| 00:24.02 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 00:24.26 | Amadeo | art3mis killed the IRCternet |
| 00:25.04 | mjc | yes he did |
| 00:27.21 | TecnoBrat | woot, my friends list is cool |
| 00:27.25 | TecnoBrat | It has 2 real people |
| 00:28.22 | TecnoBrat | and 5 "Unknown" |
| 00:28.22 | Phatrik | http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/tikbalang.jpg |
| 00:28.22 | TecnoBrat | which I cant remove, because then I get the error "Player not found" |
| 00:28.23 | Phatrik | I demand a serious GM reply :X |
| 00:28.23 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:29.46 | Amadeo | Is it strange that I know one of the guys on those eHarmony TV commercials? |
| 00:31.07 | NightHawkTheSane | strange isnt the word i would use |
| 00:31.33 | Amadeo | Seriously... |
| 00:31.39 | Amadeo | He was like my gym teacher in high school, or something... |
| 00:31.44 | Amadeo | it's the weird looking bald guy |
| 00:33.10 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:33.26 | Amadeo | First time I saw the commercial, I freaked out |
| 00:33.31 | Amadeo | You don't expect that shit |
| 00:34.04 | NightHawkTheSane | well, I'll give you that. There really is no way you can see something like that coming |
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| 00:36.32 | Amadeo | I didn't even expect him to be able to get a woman! |
| 00:36.39 | Amadeo | he's kind of alien-looking |
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| 00:38.31 | Amadeo | then again, maybe he's super-human, evolving and all |
| 00:43.17 | Sole | hmm |
| 00:43.42 | Amadeo | How was breakfast? |
| 00:44.01 | kenlyric | technobrat... alliance or horde? |
| 00:44.03 | Sole | design question for you guys, in this arena addon where would you prefer the cast bar to be placed? to the side of the person's name or to replace his health bar? |
| 00:44.07 | Sole | breakfast was great |
| 00:45.09 | Sole | I dont even know if I'll need antagonist after Im done with this O_O |
| 00:45.39 | Sole | ok nobody knows wtf Im talking about, I'll go away |
| 00:46.03 | Amadeo | I just don't have a preference |
| 00:46.05 | Amadeo | :) |
| 00:46.16 | kenlyric | make an option! |
| 00:46.19 | kenlyric | do both |
| 00:46.26 | vhaarr | options ftl |
| 00:46.29 | Sole | that passed my mind |
| 00:46.38 | Sole | but if I replace the healthbar I'll be doing the timing all on my own |
| 00:46.43 | Sole | if I do it to the side, I'll be using candybar |
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| 00:46.55 | Sole | space vs utility really |
| 00:46.59 | vhaarr | I think replacing the health bar would be confusing |
| 00:47.17 | vhaarr | and many times, the decision to interrupt a spell or not is based on the targets current hp |
| 00:47.19 | Sole | change the health bar color and icon next to it to reflect the spell |
| 00:47.46 | Sole | your point is valid though vhaarr |
| 00:47.51 | TecnoBrat | Tornhoof, ping? |
| 00:48.04 | Amadeo | Haha, Microsoft is pissed that Google bought DoubleClick |
| 00:48.16 | Sole | DoubleClick = / |
| 00:48.18 | Sole | ? |
| 00:48.20 | TecnoBrat | yea ... understandably so |
| 00:48.38 | TecnoBrat | DoubleClick = one of the largest adserving companies |
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| 00:50.29 | vhaarr | I'm only level 34 on my shaman and already the amount of totems overwhelm me completely. |
| 00:50.35 | vhaarr | Anyone know any nice addons/tricks? |
| 00:50.43 | kenlyric | Yata! |
| 00:50.43 | Amadeo | My trick is to not use any |
| 00:50.45 | Amadeo | muhahaha |
| 00:50.49 | vhaarr | olol |
| 00:50.57 | kenlyric | that's what I use. |
| 00:50.59 | vhaarr | So yata is the shit? |
| 00:51.04 | vhaarr | okay |
| 00:51.13 | kenlyric | well, maybe not, bu a bit easier. |
| 00:51.13 | TecnoBrat | Yata is nice\ |
| 00:51.22 | TecnoBrat | however I cant figure out how the totem sets work |
| 00:51.28 | kenlyric | I didn't bother. |
| 00:51.32 | TecnoBrat | anyone know? :P |
| 00:51.46 | kenlyric | I imagine it's so you can set different primary totems/totem order depdning on what you're doing. |
| 00:51.56 | kenlyric | dps group, healing group, etc. |
| 00:52.44 | Nickenyfiken | I don't use any totem addon either |
| 00:52.51 | Nickenyfiken | got 4x6 buttons for totems |
| 00:52.58 | Nickenyfiken | one row for each element |
| 00:53.00 | ckknight | Amadeo: the thing is, google didn't buy for the technology, they bought for the customers |
| 00:53.05 | Amadeo | no no, I meant...not using totems at all! |
| 00:53.14 | Amadeo | ckknight: Yeah |
| 00:53.21 | Amadeo | MS wants those customers! |
| 00:54.20 | ckknight | and your mom |
| 00:54.29 | TecnoBrat | ~seen Tornhoof |
| 00:55.17 | purl | tornhoof is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 238 messages. Is idling for 5h 4m 28s, last said: 'yeh'. |
| 00:55.17 | kenlyric | your mom doubleclicks |
| 00:55.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yata's kinda crappy, imo. GotWood and a 4x6 bank of buttons works just as well |
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| 00:57.00 | Amadeo | Whitetooth = Bluetooth...but with wires |
| 00:57.23 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: So yata doesn't have a smart way to reduce the number of buttons, like drawer menus or whatever? |
| 00:57.47 | Amadeo | I thought it had drawers |
| 00:57.55 | Amadeo | haven't tried it in a while |
| 00:57.57 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: well, its got a button for each element, that can pop up for each totem in said element. but i dont like that |
| 00:58.09 | vhaarr | okay |
| 00:58.26 | vhaarr | I don't see the need for GotWood when I've got Chronometer running, though. |
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| 00:58.30 | NightHawkTheSane | It's a pain to rearrange the order of the buttons often, which I tend to do |
| 00:59.21 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, I dont use chronometer, so. |
| 01:01.02 | Amadeo | So, what's more accurate...my Honor/PvP tab displaying ~ 583 honor, or HonorFu saying 499? |
| 01:01.43 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r32850 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2: Fixed Naj'entus, added Supremus. |
| 01:02.09 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm would be greate to be able to have different groups in Chronometer |
| 01:02.26 | vhaarr | SorrenTimers does that, afaik. |
| 01:02.33 | chuckg | Use SpellWatch, Nickenyfiken. |
| 01:02.38 | Nickenyfiken | Sometimes it gets hard to find totems times when alot of things is going on |
| 01:02.39 | chuckg | Allows 3 groups. |
| 01:02.53 | Nickenyfiken | hmm ok |
| 01:03.38 | Nickenyfiken | Well have anyone ever thought of writing a addon like cooldown timers on actionbars but showing durations instead? |
| 01:03.58 | JoshBorke | what do you mean by durations? |
| 01:04.00 | kenlyric | Nickenyfiken: that'd be sweeet. |
| 01:04.07 | kenlyric | so you drop a totem and it says 2m |
| 01:04.13 | JoshBorke | huh |
| 01:04.13 | Nickenyfiken | yeah |
| 01:04.14 | kenlyric | on the totem icon |
| 01:04.16 | Nickenyfiken | instead of the cooldown |
| 01:04.20 | JoshBorke | and what if teh totem is destroyed? |
| 01:04.21 | kenlyric | it's not rocket surgery. |
| 01:04.36 | kenlyric | uh, what happens in chronometer when the totem is destroyed? |
| 01:04.37 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: .. how does current timer addons handle that? |
| 01:04.38 | Nickenyfiken | or for trinkets or racials or whatever |
| 01:05.08 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: It would be an exact copy of Chronometer, only it skins the action buttons instead of creating timer bars. |
| 01:05.45 | vhaarr | Nickenyfiken: sounds like you've got work to do :) |
| 01:06.12 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 01:06.36 | Nickenyfiken | My idea, someone else do it :-P |
| 01:09.46 | chuckg | That wouldn't work with spells that are not unique. |
| 01:09.48 | chuckg | How couldit? |
| 01:10.13 | CIA-11 | 03antiarc * r32851 10Hemlock/Hemlock.lua: Hemlock: Merged 3rd party commits into my development, updated the counting code, and added another nil check when we try to buy things from vendors. |
| 01:10.17 | Nickenyfiken | It's not always working in any addon i tried |
| 01:10.30 | chuckg | I mean your idea about timers in the spells themselves. |
| 01:10.38 | chuckg | It could not work with spells which are not unique. |
| 01:11.16 | vhaarr | Antiarc: I guess you missed the line I added at the top. |
| 01:11.24 | JoshBorke | i tohught of that too, but you could have it only valid for your current target |
| 01:11.29 | vhaarr | Antiarc: Line 1 in Hemlock.lua; if (select(2, UnitClass("player"))) ~= "ROGUE" then return end |
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| 01:12.16 | Nickenyfiken | hmm |
| 01:12.57 | Antiarc | vhaarr: I saw that :) |
| 01:13.00 | Antiarc | It's included in the commit |
| 01:13.05 | Antiarc | Not strictly necessary, actually |
| 01:13.09 | Antiarc | But it saves some load time |
| 01:13.23 | vhaarr | Antiarc: What? |
| 01:13.36 | Antiarc | Hemlock won't do anything if it can't find the poisons spell, which implicitly protects Hemlock from doing anything for non-rogues, or for rogues without poisons |
| 01:13.37 | vhaarr | Antiarc: Your commit just added another player class check in MERCHANT_SHOW. |
| 01:13.55 | Antiarc | vhaarr: Heh, that was in my dev branch, actually. I guess I can pull that out :D |
| 01:13.59 | Antiarc | It's been a long day! |
| 01:14.27 | vhaarr | I didn't commit anything to your dev branch. |
| 01:14.33 | Antiarc | Well |
| 01:14.42 | Antiarc | I don't have a dev branch per se. I should have said working copy. |
| 01:14.49 | Antiarc | Like I said, long day! :D |
| 01:15.04 | Antiarc | I had rewritten item buying code that I guess I never checked in |
| 01:15.09 | Antiarc | Was testing it then got distracted :D |
| 01:15.35 | Gnarfoz | Roartindon: around? :) |
| 01:16.15 | NightHawkTheSane | "never underestimate plumbing, plumbing is very important." |
| 01:17.25 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32852 10Aloft/ (24 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:17.25 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 01:17.25 | CIA-11 | - Huge internal changes. No longer passes nameplate frame around for events/iterations, it instead uses aloftData. This saves quite a number of lookups overall. |
| 01:17.45 | Antiarc | Ooh. |
| 01:19.08 | kenlyric | nice... no alternate set gear for testing... |
| 01:20.10 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r32853 10Chronometer/ (Chronometer.toc Core/Chronometer.lua libs/): Chronometer - Use SpellEventsLib to detect successful spell casts instead of trying to do it myself. Hopefully this will fix a bunch of bugs. |
| 01:21.41 | Nickenyfiken | oh |
| 01:22.03 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r32854 10Chronometer/Data/Priest.lua: Chronometer - Remove Prayer of Mending until I can go in and do special-case spells. |
| 01:28.49 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32855 10Aloft/Modules/ComboPointsText.lua: Aloft: ComboPointsText: fixed for updated return types (aloftData instead of frame) |
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| 01:33.24 | TecnoBrat | WTF |
| 01:33.30 | TecnoBrat | Some mod just asked me in an arena |
| 01:33.36 | TecnoBrat | "Is this a wipe?" |
| 01:33.38 | TecnoBrat | in a big window |
| 01:33.42 | TecnoBrat | any idea what that is? |
| 01:34.23 | Tain | My arrogant and prickish response would be to learn what your addons are doing before you install them. |
| 01:34.41 | TecnoBrat | Well .. it happened since I just updated my mods with WAU :P |
| 01:34.49 | TecnoBrat | I'm guessing its bigwigs |
| 01:34.50 | vhaarr | I would second Tain's response. |
| 01:34.50 | hyperChipmunk | grep -Ri is\ this\ a\ wipe wow/Interface/AddOns |
| 01:34.55 | vhaarr | It's. Not. BigWigs. |
| 01:36.37 | vhaarr | TecnoBrat: "I just updated" is no excuse, we have commit logs. |
| 01:37.01 | hyperChipmunk | it's good to know that we can always count on Tain for arrogance and prickery |
| 01:37.23 | hyperChipmunk | it's comforting |
| 01:37.28 | hyperChipmunk | like a fuzzy blanket |
| 01:38.07 | Antiarc | I tend to to blanked updates :x |
| 01:38.16 | Antiarc | And I have 180 dirs in my addons directory |
| 01:38.21 | Antiarc | I'm a chronic addon experimenter |
| 01:38.37 | Amadeo | You're on the first step to recovery |
| 01:38.40 | Antiarc | blanket updates, even |
| 01:39.15 | hyperChipmunk | my solution still works =p |
| 01:39.23 | Amadeo | Hugging Tain? |
| 01:39.49 | hyperChipmunk | grepping for the string, since it's obviously not a global string |
| 01:39.54 | Amadeo | Well, I was close |
| 01:41.09 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r32857 10Chronometer/ (Core/Chronometer.lua readme.txt): Chronometer - Hopefully fix a nil argument error |
| 01:43.25 | vhaarr | Cool, an animated movie featuring George Carlin as a voice actor. |
| 01:43.31 | shieldb | hmm, so with pitbull how can I move aura positions around? I'm trying to move target/targettarget auras but all the layout options move it way too far in a particular direction |
| 01:43.38 | vhaarr | "Happily N'Ever After" |
| 01:44.09 | hyperChipmunk | Cars? |
| 01:44.13 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 01:44.35 | knarf- | hmm any reason why pitbull is not hiding in arenas anymore? ;P |
| 01:45.09 | vhaarr | ooh, I didn't recognize him in Cars, I'll have to watch it again |
| 01:45.34 | hyperChipmunk | knarf-: option was added to use the party frame instead of raid frame for 1-group "raids" |
| 01:45.55 | CIA-11 | 03namsar * r32858 10FuBar_FuXPFu/ (FuBar_FuXPFu.lua FuXPLocals.lua): |
| 01:45.55 | CIA-11 | FuBar_FuXPFu: |
| 01:45.55 | CIA-11 | - Added a Short Rep Name option, Abbreviates long names. |
| 01:46.05 | knarf- | hyperChipmunk thanks, found it :) |
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| 01:48.32 | Sole | so I wish to have a class icon, would I create this as a button or as something else? (texture maybe?) |
| 01:49.05 | hyperChipmunk | Sole: for what? |
| 01:49.14 | hyperChipmunk | random addon? |
| 01:49.22 | Sole | hyperChipmunk: arena list addon |
| 01:49.54 | Sole | its a purely visual icon |
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| 01:50.20 | Sole | I'll have an invisible button covering the icon and the person's health to let the user target that person |
| 01:50.21 | hyperChipmunk | as opposed to those combination visual/olfactory ones? |
| 01:50.23 | Sole | if that makes any sense |
| 01:50.31 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 01:50.33 | Sole | :P |
| 01:50.54 | Sole | CreateFrame("Button", bleh) or something else? |
| 01:51.06 | hyperChipmunk | no ida =) |
| 01:51.10 | hyperChipmunk | idea* |
| 01:51.11 | Sole | O_O |
| 01:51.25 | hyperChipmunk | i haven't programmed frames since they were just xml |
| 01:52.22 | Sole | eww xml |
| 01:52.47 | Sole | I remember those days :'( |
| 01:54.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I like olfactory buttons. |
| 01:55.28 | hyperChipmunk | "hmm, burned robe fabric...smells like a mage" |
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| 01:59.49 | break19 | anyone know, if I hide pitbulls raid frames, will they still be processed, but hidden? I ask because pitbull eats my cpu for breakfast in raids, and I prefer using sraidframes anyway... |
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| 02:00.14 | break19 | i -like- pitbull, but dont want to worry about raids. |
| 02:00.37 | break19 | dont want *it* to worry about raids.. let sraidframes do that... |
| 02:00.47 | ckknight | hey all |
| 02:01.06 | kenlyric | I bet this guy would know! |
| 02:01.13 | ckknight | break19: if you set the raid frames to hidden, it won't create em |
| 02:01.25 | kenlyric | toldya |
| 02:02.07 | break19 | ckknight: hey.. thanks.. |
| 02:02.08 | break19 | kenlyric: yea, but he wasnt on when I asked... :p |
| 02:02.08 | ckknight | that's one of the big reasons why PitBull is so efficient |
| 02:02.58 | break19 | i would like a layout that used the bliz default frames, and added the castbar underneath, and showed "micro" buff icons.. but I have no idea how to write layouts. heh |
| 02:04.23 | Sole | anybody know the icon paths of the the class icons? |
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| 02:07.18 | vhaarr | Sole: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua |
| 02:08.00 | Sole | vhaarr: thank you |
| 02:10.00 | CIA-11 | 03next96 * r32859 10BigWigs/SC/ (Karathress.lua Lurker.lua): |
| 02:10.00 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: |
| 02:10.00 | CIA-11 | - SC : Add locale koKR |
| 02:13.41 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32860 10Aloft/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:13.41 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 02:13.42 | CIA-11 | - Uses AceHook to hook scripts |
| 02:13.42 | CIA-11 | - Now inserts its own GetRegions, GetChildren and GetParent methods so that other addons work without modification |
| 02:15.50 | ckknight | ugh, should I go to Systems Analysis today? |
| 02:15.53 | ckknight | I really don't want to |
| 02:18.00 | Tornhoof | you should |
| 02:18.01 | shieldb | ckknight, if I'm looking to adjust where auras are at in pitbull, how can I do that? (move it X pixels in some direction, not change it between top/bottom/etc) |
| 02:18.29 | hyperChipmunk | gvim Auras.lua? |
| 02:19.02 | ckknight | no, the layout handles it |
| 02:19.08 | ckknight | shieldb: check the layout |
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| 02:19.18 | ckknight | Tornhoof: but I don't wanna |
| 02:19.25 | shieldb | the lua file itself or in layout options? |
| 02:19.44 | Tornhoof | then copy your char to the ptr realm and get some nice t5 gear and pose ;) |
| 02:19.47 | ckknight | shieldb: lua |
| 02:19.58 | ckknight | Tornhoof: my char's like 23 now |
| 02:21.34 | Tornhoof | hmm k, well i guess considering that i think i know where you live, i can skip the go outside, go to the beach etc. stuff |
| 02:22.43 | Amadeo | Anyone have an idea what The Green Tower is worth? |
| 02:23.42 | ckknight | Tornhoof: the outside is too bright |
| 02:23.46 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32861 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua CoreModules/IsPetData.lua): |
| 02:23.46 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 02:23.46 | CIA-11 | - Fixed another frame->aloftData variable |
| 02:23.46 | CIA-11 | - PetData now does NOT save by default |
| 02:23.52 | hyperChipmunk | a-tree fiffy |
| 02:24.21 | Tornhoof | thought os ckknight |
| 02:24.23 | Tornhoof | so even |
| 02:24.40 | ckknight | I'm "indoorsy" |
| 02:24.48 | Tornhoof | anyway, i'm gonna hit the bed, need to get up in 2.5h ;) |
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| 02:36.28 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=112.0 |
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| 02:36.31 | Bibi`ouF | Black temple epix ! |
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| 02:40.57 | NightHawkTheSane | iiiiinteresting. |
| 02:43.57 | hyperChipmunk | good to see more quality survival hunter lewtz |
| 02:44.00 | hyperChipmunk | oh, wait... |
| 02:44.23 | hyperChipmunk | lol more int/agi/ap plx! |
| 02:46.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, you go and cry yourself to sleep at night. freaking hunters :P |
| 02:46.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Whee! |
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| 02:46.57 | ZealotOnAStick | <- First T5 piece in the guild. |
| 02:47.08 | hyperChipmunk | i don't think there's a single sta/agi hunter item in TBC |
| 02:47.27 | NightHawkTheSane | plenty of silly int/ap items. |
| 02:47.42 | hyperChipmunk | exactly |
| 02:47.51 | hyperChipmunk | that's what pisses me off |
| 02:48.00 | NightHawkTheSane | your telling me! |
| 02:48.06 | NightHawkTheSane | where's my str/sta/crit rating?! |
| 02:48.30 | hyperChipmunk | wtf am i supposed to do with int? do i look like a shaman? |
| 02:48.53 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, wtf is an enh shammy supposed to do with int? |
| 02:49.44 | Sole | ok I need halp |
| 02:49.59 | TecnoBrat | Tornhoof, am I a retard (probably the case) or do the totemsets in YATA not work? |
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| 02:50.36 | TecnoBrat | I cant figure out how to save the set, so you can swap to it .. and it actually swaps |
| 02:50.37 | Sole | I want a SecureActionButton to have 2 clicks handlers, left and right click, left click will execute a macro to target a player, right click will execute a macro to target the same player and cast a spell on him |
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| 02:52.39 | Velkyn | So - can someone tell me if I am smoking crack (I broke something) or did many FuBar mods stop working? |
| 02:52.52 | Velkyn | ie: performance, bugsack, etc... |
| 02:52.57 | Sole | heres a pastey of what I have now : http://ace.pastey.net/13169 |
| 02:53.32 | Sole | http://ace.pastey.net/13170 < |
| 02:53.58 | hyperChipmunk | all the other trinkets have something for each spec too |
| 02:54.07 | hyperChipmunk | laome |
| 02:54.12 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32862 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: |
| 02:54.12 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 02:54.12 | CIA-11 | - Added unit name -> nameplate lookup table to remove the need to iterate when the name is probable to be unique. |
| 02:54.41 | Sole | nobody cares bout my little problem :( |
| 02:55.45 | Fisker- | holy shit lo |
| 02:55.46 | Fisker- | lol |
| 02:56.02 | Fisker- | Now the EU cm's are locking posts with single words capsed |
| 02:56.17 | Fisker- | I wonder how long it'll be until they'll lock posts because the first word was capsed :o |
| 02:56.28 | Fisker- | err letter that it :o |
| 02:56.41 | break19 | LOL WTF? Oh shit.. I'm gettin locked OHNOEZWTFBBQ |
| 02:57.30 | TecnoBrat | If the word is caps just to get attention so people click on the topic ... thats spam imo |
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| 02:58.45 | kenlyric | SCUBA |
| 02:59.01 | Sole | -_- |
| 02:59.08 | TecnoBrat | "Rogues are worthless in endgame" vs "Rogues are WORTHLESS in endgame" |
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| 02:59.31 | Bibi`ouF | rogues are worthless. |
| 02:59.34 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 02:59.48 | Fisker- | I honestly wouldn't care either way |
| 02:59.51 | TecnoBrat | The 2nd should be frowned on .. imo |
| 03:00.56 | TecnoBrat | But anywho .. I dont have to moderate a buncha 10 y/os |
| 03:00.57 | Fisker- | gonna go on ptr and get epix |
| 03:00.57 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 03:01.00 | Fisker- | i love mcweaksauce |
| 03:01.03 | Fisker- | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/items/equip_vendor.jpg |
| 03:01.08 | Velkyn | Anyone know if there is a problem with Fubar mods and whatever WoW did today? |
| 03:01.14 | Fisker- | i'm in my ircz using your linkz Bibi`ouF |
| 03:01.16 | Fisker- | deal with it :o |
| 03:01.28 | Bibi`ouF | my last update > * |
| 03:01.36 | Diao | Might be a conflict with something |
| 03:01.41 | Diao | I just updated my Fubar 5 minutes ago |
| 03:01.43 | Diao | and it works fine |
| 03:01.49 | Bibi`ouF | nobody got it yet and if i'm lucky enough nobody will get it before a few days :p |
| 03:02.12 | Fisker- | But whatever do you mean Bibi`ouF? |
| 03:02.32 | Bibi`ouF | the ashtongue exalted trinkets |
| 03:02.35 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=112.0 |
| 03:02.49 | Fisker- | ah |
| 03:02.53 | Fisker- | where's johnny though?` |
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| 03:04.54 | Fisker- | you know that Bibi`ouF? :o |
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| 03:08.08 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: looked like right next to A'dal in the screenshots |
| 03:09.53 | Gnarfoz | shit I'm off to get some... 2 hours of sleep before having to get up to go to work |
| 03:09.54 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 03:10.01 | Gnarfoz | I dinged 60 tho! :D |
| 03:12.01 | kenlyric | jonny is all over shatl |
| 03:12.03 | NightHawkTheSane | It is right next to A'dal |
| 03:12.12 | kenlyric | there's copies in the banks, all over the central area... |
| 03:12.22 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 03:12.27 | kenlyric | there's two in each faction bank |
| 03:13.37 | kenlyric | I couldn't get the t5 vendor to do anything. though, only found three of them. |
| 03:14.50 | Velkyn | So I updated everything: Still unable to get FuBar_PerformanceFU, FuBar_MicroMenuFU, and Bugsack to show up. |
| 03:15.14 | Velkyn | I still see them listed under FuBar mods when I right click the FuBar, but turning them off and on does nothing. |
| 03:15.17 | Velkyn | Any ideas? |
| 03:15.20 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: were you getting an error or something? |
| 03:15.39 | kenlyric | nah, just "this item is busy".. and i got tired of waiting. I'll catchi t in the morning. |
| 03:15.53 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: yeah, just need to keep clicking. |
| 03:16.09 | kenlyric | I know.. I remember the reagent vendor in IF :) |
| 03:16.10 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: means some other loser nearby was buying it at the same time |
| 03:16.14 | NightHawkTheSane | "_ |
| 03:16.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 03:16.29 | Fisker- | what a retard |
| 03:16.37 | Fisker- | Asking me where the vendor bought epics are froom |
| 03:19.08 | NightHawkTheSane | what's silly is that they give you t5 quality epics, but no gems or enchants |
| 03:19.47 | kenlyric | what scares me is the priest bracers are from maiden |
| 03:20.00 | NightHawkTheSane | one of the tank trinkets was moroes' |
| 03:20.18 | kenlyric | well, trinkets are one thing. There's more than one slot for those :) |
| 03:20.28 | NightHawkTheSane | True. |
| 03:20.43 | kenlyric | wtb fixed spirit :/ |
| 03:21.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont really see a problem with a non-set piece not having a necessary upgrade between kara and bt, though |
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| 03:21.45 | FISKER_Q | heh |
| 03:21.50 | FISKER_Q | some guy asked for karazhan runs |
| 03:23.05 | kenlyric | yeah, pug ptr karaz runs by non raiders so they can have pretty purples. That'll go well. |
| 03:23.24 | kenlyric | really, you don't? |
| 03:23.34 | kenlyric | that's four instances between them. |
| 03:23.53 | NightHawkTheSane | It's one tier of difference. No I don't see a problem there. |
| 03:24.26 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32863 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua Modules/CastBarTimeText.lua): |
| 03:24.26 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 03:24.26 | CIA-11 | - Intercepts nameTextFrame:GetText() so that adding guild/whatever information doesn't interfere with other mods that require unit names returned |
| 03:24.27 | CIA-11 | - moved lastCastTimeValue initialization into its proper module |
| 03:24.48 | kenlyric | oh god! |
| 03:25.19 | kenlyric | someone let jaime kennedy in another movie. |
| 03:27.39 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: it could just be me being angry that maiden hasn't dropped those bracers after like two months :) |
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| 03:28.33 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: that's far more likely, and i'd sympathize, if .. you know, I was actually raiding. :P |
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| 03:32.51 | PProvost | ckknight, if I make a text frame in a Pitbull layout taller than one line high, will the text wrap? |
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| 03:33.12 | ckknight | no |
| 03:33.20 | PProvost | I sure would like that. :) |
| 03:33.29 | PProvost | The Buu layout kinda needs it. |
| 03:33.37 | PProvost | Others might too |
| 03:33.57 | ckknight | make more fontstrings |
| 03:34.06 | PProvost | Can' |
| 03:34.13 | PProvost | Can't know if I will need them or not. |
| 03:34.28 | PProvost | As an example, there are NPCs with strange long names. |
| 03:35.35 | kenlyric | Apprentice of the Master's Cloak of Weaving Shadowcaster. |
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| 03:37.05 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32864 10Aloft/CoreModules/Frame.lua: |
| 03:37.05 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 03:37.05 | CIA-11 | - Adopted child frames have their alpha set to the parent, hopefully this stops the sporadic half-alpha healthbars |
| 03:37.08 | kenlyric | I've always wondered why mods show the beginning of a long name, not the end. |
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| 03:40.16 | NightHawkTheSane | "Go! Now! Don't drop the banana!" "Why not?!" "Good source of potassium!" |
| 03:41.06 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
| 03:41.26 | PProvost | kenlyric, because truncating is easier than figuring it out. |
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| 03:41.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Lurker Below mod needs something to detect if the lurker doesn't dive on a possible dive. |
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| 03:41.43 | PProvost | ckknight, if I set the text width, will it truncate or run over? |
| 03:41.47 | ZealotOnAStick | though I'm not sure how to have it trigger the bars correctly when he DOES dive then. |
| 03:42.28 | ckknight | truncate |
| 03:42.38 | ckknight | actually |
| 03:42.40 | ckknight | it might wrap |
| 03:42.51 | Roartindon | PProvost: doesn't that depend on FontString:SetNonSpaceWrap ? |
| 03:43.01 | FISKER_Q | Do not shrug here young man :( |
| 03:43.07 | kenlyric | isn't very simple to truncate the beginning? |
| 03:43.16 | FISKER_Q | in before my internet crashes again |
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| 03:44.26 | PProvost | kenlyric, truncating is easy... but how much to truncate? |
| 03:45.16 | kenlyric | the same exact way they truncate now, but at the end :) |
| 03:45.23 | PProvost | lol |
| 03:46.54 | CIA-11 | 03sayclub * r32865 10ACP/localization-koKR.lua: ACP: Korean Typo fix |
| 03:48.23 | Roartindon | PProvost: what are you trying to do? |
| 03:48.38 | PProvost | Just messing with a Layout... |
| 03:48.55 | Roartindon | yea, but trying to pre-truncate some text? |
| 03:49.01 | PProvost | Wasn't happy with the wrapping, so I'm trying to see what I can make it do. |
| 03:49.10 | PProvost | No I'm not, that is what kenlyric wanted me to do. :) |
| 03:49.43 | kenlyric | I never mentioned you. I just said in general :) |
| 03:51.27 | PProvost | hehe |
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| 04:01.12 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r32866 10PitBull/Layouts/Buu.lua: |
| 04:01.12 | CIA-11 | PitBull: |
| 04:01.12 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.12 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.05 | PProvost | Whoops. That is for Buu.lua and didn't make the checking comment. Sorry ckknight. |
| 04:02.05 | ckknight | yea, try to remember to do that |
| 04:02.22 | PProvost | Yeah, I had it and re-edited and forgot to put it back. Sorry. |
| 04:04.16 | PProvost | I had PitBull\Layouts\Buu.lua on the first line and it didn't like it. |
| 04:04.41 | PProvost | Damn commit rules. :D |
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| 04:08.55 | Garoun | ck, I noticed if you set the Aura:Buffs to Bottomright it overlaps the castbar rather then starting at the bottomright corner of it |
| 04:09.24 | ckknight | I blame gnomes |
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| 04:10.14 | chutwig | i am envious of this level 10 twink rogue |
| 04:10.19 | chutwig | dodge of 120.36% :3 |
| 04:10.43 | Garoun | I blame the killer pig guys from Dr Who |
| 04:11.44 | TecnoBrat | lol chutwig |
| 04:11.51 | TecnoBrat | link an armory profile :) |
| 04:12.03 | chutwig | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Levelten |
| 04:14.10 | Sole | yaaay |
| 04:14.33 | Fisker- | gtfo? |
| 04:14.38 | Sole | Gladiator project update - the frame is complete ^_^ |
| 04:14.59 | Sole | now to add behaviour, and then to integrate nymbia's armory parser |
| 04:15.18 | kenlyric | chutwig, what's sad is that he's wasted a trinket slot. |
| 04:15.51 | kenlyric | since his dodge is capped anyway (which, btw, blizzard should really show in those numbers) |
| 04:16.13 | chutwig | you are the king of taking fun out of everything |
| 04:16.15 | Sole | I dont see how he has 1.1k health |
| 04:17.41 | kenlyric | I wonder what real 120% dodge would be. |
| 04:17.58 | kenlyric | you dodge so much you hit back? |
| 04:18.49 | PProvost | Hey ckknight just noticed something odd. |
| 04:19.28 | ckknight | pants? |
| 04:20.00 | PProvost | I set frame.classText:SetJustifyV("BOTTOM") in Buu.lua and then other layouts seemed to inherit that setting. For example, I had to update ABF.lua to use "MIDDLE" or it won't co-exist w/ Buu nicely. |
| 04:21.26 | PProvost | Seems odd that I had to do that. |
| 04:21.38 | PProvost | I expected them to not affect one another. |
| 04:21.52 | PProvost | Checking in updated ABF.lua now... |
| 04:22.50 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r32867 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: |
| 04:22.50 | CIA-11 | PitBull |
| 04:22.50 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.36 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r32868 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua: Chronometer - Another attempted fix for nil variable bugs I can't reproduce. |
| 04:24.47 | PProvost | One other thing... it seems like classText format called Short should actually include the class text instead of the race. O.o |
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| 04:36.39 | Bibi`ouF | someone save me from going mad. |
| 04:36.52 | Bibi`ouF | i need the name of an addon showing the item tooltips when you click one in your chat |
| 04:36.58 | Bibi`ouF | huh, item icons. |
| 04:37.15 | Diao | I know auctioneer does it, but it's not an ace addon |
| 04:37.29 | Diao | Is anyone getting massive amounts of errors with chronometer after latest update? |
| 04:37.47 | Bibi`ouF | don't care, just need the feature :p |
| 04:37.50 | Bibi`ouF | thanks |
| 04:38.55 | Diao | [2007/04/16 21:26:06-751-x22]: Chronometer-0.10\Core\Chronometer.lua:746: attempt to index local 'timer' (a nil value) |
| 04:38.55 | Diao | <in C code>: ? |
| 04:38.55 | Diao | AceEvent-2.0-32527 (Prat):322: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 04:38.55 | Diao | AceEvent-2.0-32527 (Prat):1009: in function <...rface\AddOns\Prat\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:1002> |
| 04:38.55 | Diao | --- |
| 04:39.06 | Diao | I get that error every few seconds o_o |
| 04:43.11 | Codayus | IDCard? |
| 04:49.13 | Sole | Do you guys think registering and unregistering events every time a player enters and leaves and arena match is a better approach than simply registering them once? |
| 04:50.34 | sedatedChipmunk | Bibi`ouF: you're looking for IDCard |
| 04:50.43 | sedatedChipmunk | that's precisely what it does |
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| 04:53.34 | Bibi`ouF | sedatedChipmunk : yeah it's the one i had |
| 04:53.35 | Bibi`ouF | thanks |
| 04:53.39 | Bibi`ouF | Codayus too actually :p |
| 04:59.29 | CIA-11 | 03next96 * r32869 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: |
| 04:59.29 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: |
| 04:59.29 | CIA-11 | - SC: Lurker.lua |
| 04:59.29 | CIA-11 | - Typo fix :) |
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| 05:11.44 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=113.0 ^^ |
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| 05:18.00 | CIA-11 | FuBar_PerformanceFu : |
| 05:18.00 | CIA-11 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 05:36.20 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 05:45.48 | verotas | hi |
| 05:46.06 | verotas | is there anybody here? |
| 05:47.15 | Sparhawke | no |
| 05:47.23 | verotas | :-( |
| 05:50.38 | sedatedChipmunk | did you have a question or something? |
| 05:50.46 | verotas | me? |
| 05:50.48 | verotas | yes |
| 05:50.52 | sedatedChipmunk | there are people here; they're just hiding |
| 05:50.59 | verotas | i c |
| 05:51.15 | Zicon | Afraid of the killer monkeys, don't you know. |
| 05:51.27 | sedatedChipmunk | go ahead and ask it; you'll get an answer from someone eventually, unless it's a really stupid question =) |
| 05:51.37 | sedatedChipmunk | then you'll get sarcasm and derision |
| 05:51.50 | verotas | I have some question on getting a svn account |
| 05:51.55 | Kemayo | In my experience even if we answer it we'll be sarcastic. |
| 05:51.57 | verotas | I've read all the stuff on Wiki |
| 05:52.13 | verotas | I've signed, and have sent mail twice during last week |
| 05:52.21 | sedatedChipmunk | who'd you mail? |
| 05:52.22 | verotas | and still had no response |
| 05:52.26 | sedatedChipmunk | kael? |
| 05:52.42 | verotas | wowace-svn-requests@googlegroups.com , as mentioned on wiki and forum and ... |
| 05:52.47 | sedatedChipmunk | ah |
| 05:53.08 | sedatedChipmunk | kaelten's doing the whole marriage/honeymoon thing atm |
| 05:53.14 | verotas | oh |
| 05:53.19 | sedatedChipmunk | probably why you've been unresponded-to |
| 05:53.21 | verotas | that's great |
| 05:53.53 | sedatedChipmunk | hang out here for a bit and see if someone helps you; if not, i'll make sure it gets done tomorrow |
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| 05:54.21 | verotas | I have searched wowace-svn on googlegroups.com too, and got no results |
| 05:54.25 | sedatedChipmunk | most of the moderators here can help you with that, i think |
| 05:54.36 | sedatedChipmunk | i'd help you but i forgot my password =) |
| 05:54.39 | verotas | so i wanted to know the mail address is still valid |
| 05:54.46 | sedatedChipmunk | oh, for sure |
| 05:54.51 | verotas | yeah, thanks |
| 05:55.15 | sedatedChipmunk | like i said, kael's probably the one that gets redirected to, and he's a bit busy lately =) |
| 05:56.47 | verotas | ok, thats a good thing. i think i could wait a few more days. |
| 05:57.10 | sedatedChipmunk | clad|sleep: ping ckknight: ping Tem: ping Tekkub: ping vhaarr: ping pastamancer: ping |
| 05:57.26 | Tekkub | what the fuck chipmunk? |
| 05:57.31 | sedatedChipmunk | =) at least one of those ought to be able to help |
| 05:57.32 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: hrm? |
| 05:57.43 | nymbia | i think kael's the only one who handles svn requests now |
| 05:57.43 | ckknight | oh, no, I don't handle SVN |
| 05:57.51 | Tem | sedatedChipmunk, I hate you in the face |
| 05:57.55 | nymbia | haha |
| 05:59.27 | xyu | what's a good instance for getting plenty of green lvl 32-40ish items? |
| 05:59.28 | xyu | RFD? |
| 06:00.23 | pastamancer | none of use handle svn |
| 06:02.43 | NightHawkTheSane | xyu: sm? |
| 06:04.02 | xyu | ah yeah o_O |
| 06:04.13 | xyu | don't know how that slipped my mind |
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| 06:08.33 | dotted | morning |
| 06:23.33 | Dynom | gm |
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| 06:37.24 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:37.37 | dotted | lo ck |
| 06:37.43 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 06:38.00 | art3mis | yer mom |
| 06:38.08 | art3mis | no wait you said HOW... my mistake |
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| 06:40.17 | Dynom | hey ckknight |
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| 06:40.48 | dotted | lo Fisker- nub |
| 06:40.51 | dotted | :p |
| 06:40.58 | Dynom | ckknight: do you happen to know about a bugfix in Pitbull with (hunter) pets ? |
| 06:41.15 | Dynom | reported it a while ago, dunnow if that got noticed |
| 06:41.43 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:42.31 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r32872 10VanasKoS/ (9 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: - Updated localization koKR |
| 06:44.13 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: I guess there's 2 types of people.. those who need to clean their cars, and those with too much time on their hands. |
| 06:44.55 | dotted | NightHawkTheSane you are all wrong |
| 06:45.00 | art3mis | hah |
| 06:45.07 | art3mis | thats quite amazing though |
| 06:45.11 | art3mis | the guys good |
| 06:45.16 | NightHawkTheSane | he is. |
| 06:45.19 | dotted | There are 10 types of people. Those who can do binary, and those who dont. |
| 06:45.40 | art3mis | can do binary and dont do binary? |
| 06:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | yes yes, heard that one |
| 06:45.50 | art3mis | you seem confused ;P |
| 06:46.56 | ckknight | Dynom: have no idea what the bug is |
| 06:47.03 | ckknight | Dynom: what's the bug? |
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| 06:52.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: if I want Health text in two places, 'cur/max' left aligned, and '-deficit' right aligned, how can I do that with pitbull layouts and/or dogtags? |
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| 06:52.58 | ckknight | you make fontstrings in the layout |
| 06:53.11 | ckknight | and then add their names to the extraFrames table in the layou |
| 06:53.13 | ckknight | layout* |
| 06:53.16 | ckknight | e.g. |
| 06:54.27 | ckknight | always = function(unit, frame) frame.myHealth = newFrame("FontString", frame.overlay, "ARTWORK"); DogTag:RegisterFontString(frame.myHealth, "[deficit]"); frame.myHealth:SetPoint("LEFT", frame, "LEFT") end), extraFrames = { "myHealth" } |
| 06:55.56 | ckknight | give or take. |
| 06:56.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Alright, I see. Thanks |
| 06:56.14 | ckknight | I want to make it so that's the standard way of doing fontstrings |
| 06:56.19 | ckknight | i.e. not in their own modules |
| 06:56.26 | ckknight | since DogTag handles all the computation |
| 06:56.39 | ckknight | and layout handles the positioning and creation |
| 06:56.42 | ckknight | nothing more you need |
| 06:56.46 | Elkano | NightHawkTheSane, also used to PCUF? ;) |
| 06:56.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: yes, very much so. :D |
| 07:03.47 | Dynom | ckknight: a hunter and 2 others leave the party; (and thus 2 remaining) the UF of the players that left go away but get a pet frame of the hunter that left |
| 07:04.15 | Dynom | so you get 1 party member frame, 3 pet frames and your own frame (+pet in my case) |
| 07:04.31 | Dynom | I wasn't able to reproduce it else I could have made a screenshot |
| 07:04.50 | Dynom | it was on a freshly installed pitbull and config file |
| 07:05.40 | ckknight | um |
| 07:05.42 | ckknight | I believe I fixed that. |
| 07:07.02 | evl | Wasn't there some DPS meter for ACE in development? |
| 07:07.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Hm, any addon that makes the color picker less stupid? |
| 07:07.14 | evl | in ace* |
| 07:07.25 | Dynom | ckknight: excellent |
| 07:07.35 | ckknight | evl: Violation |
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| 07:09.06 | dotted | NightHawkTheSane recap |
| 07:09.16 | dotted | ehh |
| 07:09.22 | dotted | evl: Recap |
| 07:09.23 | dotted | :p |
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| 07:11.45 | evl | ckknight: But that only works for you and anyone else that has it insalled right? |
| 07:12.02 | ckknight | basically |
| 07:12.25 | dotted | evl thats kinda how it is for all dmg meters |
| 07:12.47 | evl | I was more thinking about 5 and 10-man |
| 07:12.54 | dotted | but violation does look pretty awsome, hopefully it will have some good ui aswell |
| 07:12.55 | evl | where you will most likely be in range of everyone in the raid |
| 07:13.02 | evl | Recap is awfully inaccurate |
| 07:13.10 | NightHawkTheSane | recap is terrible. :\ |
| 07:13.21 | evl | Especially since it doesn't register damage done by say Life Siphon when it doesn't heal the caster |
| 07:13.28 | evl | So what alternatives are there? |
| 07:13.37 | NightHawkTheSane | swstats is nice. |
| 07:14.30 | Dynom | yeah it is |
| 07:14.40 | evl | where can I find the latest ver? |
| 07:14.41 | Dynom | I don't rly like it's inteface though |
| 07:14.47 | Dynom | evl: curse :> |
| 07:15.32 | Dynom | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/2091/sw-stats/ |
| 07:15.35 | evl | thanks |
| 07:15.38 | Dynom | I hate the new search of curse |
| 07:15.54 | evl | I hate curse |
| 07:15.56 | evl | :) |
| 07:16.04 | evl | the search function is crap the tagging worse |
| 07:16.09 | NightHawkTheSane | sw-stats.com |
| 07:16.09 | Punkie` | just get damage meters? |
| 07:16.15 | Punkie` | increase log to 200 yards |
| 07:16.23 | Punkie` | hey presto, you win for 5-10 mans |
| 07:16.30 | dotted | damage meters have even worse ui than sw :/ |
| 07:16.40 | Punkie` | how? |
| 07:17.25 | Dynom | nah it's kinda nice, but I miss the filtering SWS has |
| 07:17.32 | Dynom | it should have some more buttons on the top and bottom |
| 07:17.38 | Punkie` | when you have 5+ people syncing SW stats, things start getting a bit more laggy |
| 07:17.43 | Dynom | I kinda like SWS only the data nuking is a bit bloated |
| 07:18.16 | Dynom | I usually switch betweeen dm and sws for some reason |
| 07:18.20 | Punkie` | I remember I downloaded SW Stats with a few friends and it was awesome |
| 07:18.25 | Punkie` | then I said it was awesome to my guild |
| 07:18.41 | Dynom | :P |
| 07:18.43 | Silviu- | i hate that i can`t clear the data when i want in swstats |
| 07:18.43 | Punkie` | and having over 20 people in a raid with it was sick |
| 07:18.50 | Dynom | Silviu-: /sw rv |
| 07:19.03 | Dynom | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:19.09 | Silviu- | Hmm works ? |
| 07:19.14 | Punkie` | it gives you a vote |
| 07:19.15 | Dynom | ResetVote |
| 07:19.22 | Punkie` | but if people vote no, then tough |
| 07:19.25 | Punkie` | unless you have assist |
| 07:19.27 | Silviu- | :) |
| 07:19.29 | Dynom | the entire idea behind SWS is SYNCED data, so doh that you can't clear it |
| 07:19.47 | Silviu- | Dmm sync too |
| 07:19.51 | evl | That's what I like about recap |
| 07:20.02 | evl | and in recap it gives really detailed stats for my missrate etc. |
| 07:20.07 | Dynom | yeah |
| 07:20.15 | evl | but sadly it's inaccurate like hell :) |
| 07:20.17 | Dynom | recap has a bit too much detail for my taste |
| 07:20.18 | Silviu- | that Hawsky version ? |
| 07:20.29 | evl | Afaik yeah |
| 07:20.31 | Punkie` | evl |
| 07:20.34 | evl | Punkie` |
| 07:20.42 | Punkie` | run a combat log and use wow web stats at the end? :P |
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| 07:20.54 | evl | then I can't be a live meterwhore :)( |
| 07:21.14 | Punkie` | just use damagemeters! |
| 07:21.33 | Silviu- | That we do too in guild with webstats |
| 07:21.34 | evl | I thought that was inaccurate? :/ |
| 07:21.51 | Silviu- | http://j39f3fs.de/wws/wws-20070415-1920 |
| 07:22.25 | Punkie` | dude, set your combat log to frickin' 200 yards dammit! |
| 07:22.50 | Dynom | I set mine to max; iirc necb does it too |
| 07:23.01 | evl | and how do I set this? :P |
| 07:23.13 | Punkie` | download damage meters and tick 'increase combat log range' |
| 07:23.27 | Punkie` | or change it in bigwigs (i think) |
| 07:23.28 | Dynom | I bet wowwiki knows the console command |
| 07:24.20 | evl | Punkie`: thanks |
| 07:24.32 | evl | Yeah, I hate sw_stats for that damn reset vote thing |
| 07:24.50 | evl | why can't it keep a running total and let you reset when you want by simply creating ranges |
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| 07:26.09 | Punkie` | because then you will have your wicked way! |
| 07:27.01 | evl | I really hate it when I'm out of shit to farm :( |
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| 07:28.28 | Adys | What would be the simplest addon to get a specific item's ID in the tooltip or somewhere accessible easily? |
| 07:28.54 | ZealotOnAStick | I like the reset on SWS. Just set it to auto-vote yes and get everyone else to. |
| 07:29.12 | ZealotOnAStick | You can go back and add together whichever data segments you want and re-calc. |
| 07:29.18 | evl | Punkie`: looks like the damage meters version on curse is old, anywhere else it's being updated? |
| 07:29.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Far fucking better than the twits who reset DM every damn pull. |
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| 07:33.29 | Dynom | ZealotOnAStick: assistants don't need to wait for a vote, they can just resset it |
| 07:33.47 | Dynom | god I hate console lag |
| 07:36.45 | CIA-11 | 03toadkiller * r32873 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua: |
| 07:36.45 | CIA-11 | GridStatusMissingBuffs: |
| 07:36.45 | CIA-11 | - Try to avoid error by making buffName default to "" |
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| 07:37.51 | Dynom | toadkiller xD |
| 07:37.58 | Dynom | how did you came up with that nick |
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| 07:38.13 | Dynom | s/you/he/ |
| 07:39.24 | NightHawkTheSane | he kills toads, obviously. |
| 07:39.32 | Dynom | yeah; kinda disturbing tbh |
| 07:39.37 | Fisker- | ~seen clad|sleep |
| 07:40.12 | purl | clad|sleep is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace #wowwiki, last said: 'you may liek it more, but they mean the same thing =)'. |
| 07:40.13 | NightHawkTheSane | the toads had it coming |
| 07:40.13 | Dynom | revenge of the toads |
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| 07:41.32 | Diao | Prat is giving me errors with chronometer o_O |
| 07:41.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: hmm. trying to call newFrame from within a layout throws a nil error, PitBull:newFrame throws an AceOO error.... |
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| 07:41.38 | Fisker- | can you make grid totally ignore some debuffs/debuff types? |
| 07:41.43 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: PitBull.newFrame |
| 07:41.47 | ckknight | dot, not colon |
| 07:41.52 | ckknight | at the top of the layout, do this: |
| 07:41.54 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:41.57 | ckknight | local newFrame = PitBull.newFrame |
| 07:42.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 07:42.14 | CIA-11 | 03toadkiller * r32875 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua: |
| 07:42.14 | CIA-11 | GridStatusMissingBuffs: |
| 07:42.15 | CIA-11 | - Try to avoid error by making buffName default to "", take 2 |
| 07:42.19 | NightHawkTheSane | alright. |
| 07:42.49 | ckknight | don't worry, it's a confusing part, I guess |
| 07:43.43 | Fisker- | Noone knows if you can make grid totally ignore some debuffs/debuff types? |
| 07:44.46 | ckknight | vhaarr: ping |
| 07:45.12 | CIA-11 | 03jerry 07jerry * r32876 10FuBar_FuXPFu/: Removed old branch |
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| 07:45.56 | CIA-11 | 03jerry 07jerry * r32877 10lern2count/: Removed old branch |
| 07:47.24 | vhaarr | ckknight: pong |
| 07:47.37 | ckknight | vhaarr: why'd you remove collectgarbage('setpause', 110) from PerformanceFu? |
| 07:47.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ahah, There we go. Thanks ckknight :) |
| 07:48.41 | ckknight | vhaarr: it was removed in r32552 |
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| 07:49.06 | vhaarr | ckknight: I thought that was done by WoW now |
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| 07:49.19 | ckknight | vhaarr: note how it did a build check for WoW 2.0 |
| 07:49.24 | ckknight | it's fixed in WoW 2.1 |
| 07:49.26 | ckknight | not 2.0 |
| 07:49.39 | vhaarr | ah |
| 07:49.49 | ckknight | bad rabbit |
| 07:49.49 | FISKER_Q | what duz that mean? |
| 07:49.51 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r32878 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - add back in collectgarbage('setpause', 110) - note: only runs in WoW 2.0, not WoW 2.1, as that does it by default. |
| 07:49.51 | ckknight | no banana |
| 07:50.17 | ckknight | it means I won't freak out anymore when I have 40 MiB of RAM used up |
| 07:50.42 | FISKER_Q | only 40? .o |
| 07:50.51 | FISKER_Q | Mine starts out 40 and climbs to 100 when i browse ah |
| 07:51.04 | ckknight | ick |
| 07:51.24 | Elkano | well, mine forcs a gc at around 70 |
| 07:51.56 | ckknight | part of me wonders if I should put that in AceEvent or something |
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| 07:52.05 | syeren | ckk! |
| 07:52.10 | syeren | I could never be your woman, |
| 07:52.17 | ckknight | I only do it cause I know that WoW 2.1 will have it in by default |
| 07:52.20 | ckknight | syeren: k? |
| 07:53.15 | Dynom | syeren: not going for the surgery afterall ? |
| 07:53.31 | syeren | (audiosys™) Whitetown - Your Woman (1) (04:20|3.98MB) |
| 07:53.32 | syeren | ! |
| 07:56.02 | Nickenyfiken | Heh i think this is the first time i see someone announce what music they are listening to in this chan |
| 07:56.19 | ckknight | doesn't happen often |
| 07:56.26 | Dynom | luckely |
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| 07:56.33 | ckknight | for me, James Blunt - High |
| 07:56.38 | Nickenyfiken | Usually people to it all the time on IRC (atleast other places i am on) |
| 07:56.45 | NightHawkTheSane | 5,6,7,8's right now for me. |
| 07:57.02 | Elkano | Nickenyfiken, I think after we hung a few people who did it stopped for a while |
| 07:57.07 | Dynom | tbh information about how your fart smells is if more interest then what song you are listening too |
| 07:57.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Nickenyfiken: honestly, I hate that. I don't fucking care what you're listening too unless the topic is -actually- about music. |
| 07:57.26 | Nickenyfiken | Im listening to Cannibal Corpse moahahaha :-P |
| 07:57.32 | Dynom | tbh; keep it for MSN |
| 07:57.33 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah i agree |
| 07:57.35 | ckknight | on the topic, what do you people like to code to? |
| 07:57.44 | Nickenyfiken | Death Metal |
| 07:57.51 | Dynom | decent developed APIS' |
| 07:58.03 | ckknight | whenever I code, I always either like no music or nice, mellow music |
| 07:58.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Dynom: zing! |
| 07:58.09 | Dynom | I hate corrupted data >_< |
| 07:58.11 | ckknight | I still produce damn nice code, though ;-) |
| 07:58.23 | Dynom | FIX ME PROPER UTF8 CONVERSION GDAMNED |
| 07:58.30 | Dynom | brb gonna shoot someone |
| 07:58.56 | NightHawkTheSane | I like almost anything, I just set iTunes to shuffle everything (go go 80gb of music). |
| 07:59.08 | Elkano | "This is SWAT! Drop your gun and come out slowly..." |
| 07:59.30 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I only have like 13 or so |
| 07:59.31 | Nickenyfiken | I usually listen to whole albums |
| 07:59.43 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: I do shuffle by album :-) |
| 08:00.13 | Nickenyfiken | Many times the whole album may be like "big song" or follow a theme |
| 08:00.20 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:01.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, though those kinds of albums are a relative minority for me. I just really like the randomness of not knowing what will come up next. |
| 08:01.17 | Dynom | back (he still lives) |
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| 08:01.34 | Dynom | ( due the thing in America I kinda realise it was a bad joke, sorry about that ) |
| 08:01.43 | Fisker- | fuck this shit :( |
| 08:01.55 | Dynom | tbh I never tried that Fisker- |
| 08:02.07 | Dynom | well.. not entirely true |
| 08:02.11 | Dynom | oh nvm |
| 08:04.34 | ckknight | [2007/04/16 21:51:57-2790-x1]: Aloft-2.0\CoreModules\HealthBar.lua:383: AceModuleCore-2.0: Cannot find module "Frame". |
| 08:05.03 | ckknight | Dynom: thing in America? |
| 08:05.10 | ckknight | you mean the school shooting? |
| 08:05.13 | Nickenyfiken | School shooting? |
| 08:06.15 | Elkano | Nickenyfiken, yesterday in Virginia |
| 08:06.28 | [Ammo] | soo.... http://es.theinquirer.net/wow%20a%20toda%20costa.png |
| 08:06.31 | Elkano | nad it was an university shooting ;) |
| 08:06.37 | Nickenyfiken | Ya i know |
| 08:06.51 | Nickenyfiken | my timing was bad |
| 08:06.54 | Dynom | ckknight: ya |
| 08:07.03 | Nickenyfiken | meant to be before ckks last message :-P |
| 08:07.07 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 08:07.09 | Dynom | 33 deaths, kinda sad |
| 08:07.16 | Nickenyfiken | yeah :-( |
| 08:07.45 | Dynom | let's exchange them for 33 bad people |
| 08:08.06 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:08.18 | krka | in fact, how do you know that the ones who died weren't bad? |
| 08:08.22 | [Ammo] | the ones that are bad usually play horde |
| 08:08.25 | [Ammo] | horde is baaaddd |
| 08:08.28 | [Ammo] | beer good |
| 08:08.31 | [Ammo] | horde bad |
| 08:08.42 | Roartindon | ckknight: What has to be done to unit frame addons to make them work with click casting addons? |
| 08:08.43 | syeren | [Ammo], my debuff frame highlighting isn't working :( |
| 08:08.49 | syeren | It works liek AG's worked right? |
| 08:08.54 | ckknight | Roartindon: works with Click2Cast |
| 08:09.12 | Roartindon | ckknight: What needs to be done tho; I've been requested to add click casting to aloft |
| 08:09.17 | Roartindon | and I'm not sure whether I can yet :) |
| 08:09.28 | ckknight | Roartindon: oh... |
| 08:09.37 | Dynom | krka: well, humanity has a few methods of determaining whats bad and what not; in fact, you know it yourself probably |
| 08:09.43 | [Ammo] | syeren: it worked for me sunday |
| 08:09.44 | ckknight | ClickCastFrames = ClickCastFrames or {}; ClickCastFrames[frame] = true |
| 08:10.05 | Dynom | I know for sure that Mr. Hitler had a few bad moments in his life |
| 08:10.07 | Roartindon | so just add the frame into a global table? |
| 08:10.10 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:10.35 | [Ammo] | syeren: so unless someone messed it up it should still work |
| 08:10.46 | syeren | Do I need default party highlighting on? |
| 08:11.27 | [Ammo] | huh? |
| 08:11.33 | [Ammo] | nono that's target highlighting |
| 08:11.43 | [Ammo] | all the debuff highlighting is in the Aura subemnu |
| 08:11.44 | ckknight | Roartindon: yes |
| 08:11.50 | [Ammo] | Aura -> Frame Highlight -> All Debuffs |
| 08:11.52 | [Ammo] | then shield yourself |
| 08:11.54 | [Ammo] | or whatever |
| 08:11.55 | syeren | Wonder why it doesn't show :/ |
| 08:11.58 | [Ammo] | and you should see a nice red glow |
| 08:12.07 | [Ammo] | or whatever you have set for your debuff colors |
| 08:12.22 | [Ammo] | is it set to Cureable by me? |
| 08:12.47 | Nickenyfiken | Cureable may have not worked for me neither yesterday |
| 08:13.01 | Nickenyfiken | not sure thought cus it wasnt much i could cure in Arcatraz |
| 08:13.02 | [Ammo] | it worked fine on my pally sunday meh |
| 08:13.32 | Nickenyfiken | I have to go visit a spider or something and try with poison |
| 08:13.56 | [Ammo] | or have a mage and let a warlock CoS you |
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| 08:18.53 | NeoTron | infinibar scares me |
| 08:19.11 | NeoTron | kind of weird to configure - mainly I can't see ever wanting per-button settons :P |
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| 08:20.02 | NeoTron | oh I see default is to use bar info |
| 08:20.08 | Nickenyfiken | No it's working, atleast on my own UF and focus |
| 08:20.18 | [Ammo] | so it just works? |
| 08:20.20 | [Ammo] | see :) |
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| 08:23.23 | Nickenyfiken | Anyone got Leatherworking 375? |
| 08:24.59 | Roartindon | hmm.. no click casting for aloft I guess |
| 08:26.01 | Nickenyfiken | Not possible? |
| 08:26.07 | Roartindon | Don't think so |
| 08:26.14 | Roartindon | my prodding around just produces errors :) |
| 08:27.30 | Nickenyfiken | Uhm well is it possible to do clickcasting on any frame? |
| 08:27.39 | nymbia | it should be doable |
| 08:27.59 | Roartindon | remember, aloft doesn't have unitids |
| 08:28.11 | Nickenyfiken | Just unit name? |
| 08:28.16 | Roartindon | yep |
| 08:28.19 | nymbia | although it probably requires some :SetAttribute action, so i guess it might not be doable on frames that're generated while in combat |
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| 08:28.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Given that they're nameplates and there's already some default interactions on them, it may not be. |
| 08:28.42 | nymbia | well |
| 08:28.53 | nymbia | they are normal frames |
| 08:28.58 | ZealotOnAStick | While Aloft does some damn impressive things, I don't think they were ever meant for unit-frame functionality. |
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| 08:29.16 | Nickenyfiken | Do we really need clickcasting on them? |
| 08:29.18 | nymbia | and i'm sure you could click cast on 'em |
| 08:29.32 | [Ammo] | they're the mouseover unit :p |
| 08:30.41 | Roartindon | They are the mouseover unit :) |
| 08:30.41 | [Ammo] | beat ya to it |
| 08:30.41 | nymbia | lol |
| 08:30.41 | Elkano | Nickenyfiken, stuck at 335 :/ |
| 08:30.41 | Roartindon | But I tried to put them into the click casting table |
| 08:30.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: silly question, would it be at all possible to have a frame hide itself while a spell is being cast? |
| 08:30.41 | Roartindon | and Clique just errors |
| 08:30.42 | NightHawkTheSane | er, rather, while the castbar for that frame is uh 'active'? |
| 08:30.42 | Roartindon | hmm.. another idea |
| 08:30.42 | nymbia | howso? |
| 08:30.42 | Roartindon | one sec |
| 08:30.43 | Daemona | hmmmm is there a way to inclrease the range at which units face into few (beside that view distance slider)= |
| 08:30.47 | Daemona | -few+view |
| 08:30.51 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: you mean like a fontstring or what? |
| 08:30.52 | Daemona | o.O its a bit early i guess |
| 08:31.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: basically, yeah. |
| 08:31.17 | sbu | nymbia: uhm - do you have alreade some naming scheme for tattle battlegroup data files? |
| 08:31.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: I'd like to put the cast bar in the same place as the level/class/race text, and just have that text hide itself when the cast bar is doing something |
| 08:31.48 | nymbia | sbu: not really, probably just like EUBattlegroupname.lua |
| 08:31.52 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: not to my knowledge, I'd recommend making a dogtag modifier |
| 08:31.59 | ckknight | that hides when a spell is being cast. |
| 08:33.15 | Stephmw | mornin |
| 08:33.49 | ckknight | morning, Stephmw |
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| 08:34.44 | sbu | nymbia: hmm - what about special chars then? (e.g. in french server names :/) |
| 08:35.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: hmmm. That doesnt look terribly difficult, actually. |
| 08:35.16 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: shouldn't be. |
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| 08:36.58 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r32879 10ClosetGnome_Tooltip/ (ClosetGnome_Tooltip.lua ClosetGnome_Tooltip.toc): ClosetGnome_Tooltip: cleaner implementation |
| 08:37.20 | nymbia | sbu: are there any special chars in the battlegroup names? |
| 08:37.28 | sbu | yeah :/ |
| 08:37.43 | sbu | N%C3%A9m%C3%A9sis :p |
| 08:37.46 | nymbia | hrm... |
| 08:38.22 | nymbia | i wonder if those'll work in file names. |
| 08:38.55 | sbu | oh |
| 08:39.01 | sbu | they do |
| 08:39.19 | sbu | just created Némésis.txt |
| 08:39.23 | Roartindon | The problem I'm having, is that nameplate frames are "Frame" not "Button" |
| 08:39.33 | Roartindon | So Click2Cast/Clique both fail on "RegisterForClicks" |
| 08:39.51 | nymbia | can also do escape sequences (ie \195) in linux, but i guess that'll blow up windows, eh? |
| 08:39.56 | Roartindon | I guess I could create a dummy button frame and root it to the nameplate? |
| 08:39.59 | sbu | yep |
| 08:40.07 | sbu | i think \ is not allowed |
| 08:40.10 | nymbia | yeah |
| 08:40.13 | nymbia | well |
| 08:40.36 | nymbia | if just using the actual name doesnt work, we'll give em numbers or something |
| 08:45.35 | syeren | Someone. |
| 08:45.43 | syeren | Please give me something to stop this Blizzard Downloader. |
| 08:45.50 | syeren | It has refused to let me download anything. |
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| 08:46.01 | syeren | I'm at 99%, and it is using all my upstream :/ |
| 08:47.02 | todd | how much do you think it's worth for someone to make spellcloth if I have the mats? |
| 08:47.07 | todd | I know it's largely dependent on server economy |
| 08:47.12 | todd | just looking for some numbers though |
| 08:47.28 | Daemona | todd, i just wouldnt pay more than 5g afterall am suplying the mats |
| 08:47.30 | Nickenyfiken | Is there a minimum miss rate that can't get under? |
| 08:47.45 | Nickenyfiken | Normal white melee damage that is |
| 08:48.15 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32880 10Tattle/dataminer.lua: |
| 08:48.15 | CIA-11 | Tattle: |
| 08:48.15 | CIA-11 | - Sort battlegroups alphabetically again |
| 08:48.28 | syeren | This is fucking bullshit. |
| 08:48.28 | todd | Daemona, even though it's a 4 day cooldown? |
| 08:48.40 | syeren | 1-99% I download at 2.4MB a second. |
| 08:48.45 | syeren | And it just stops me dead at 99%. |
| 08:48.48 | syeren | So I have to upload. |
| 08:49.18 | ZealotOnAStick | google for "wowtorrentex" |
| 08:49.23 | Daemona | syeren use wowtorrentex.exe |
| 08:49.32 | evl | patch going out today? |
| 08:49.34 | ZealotOnAStick | download it, stick it and the downloader in a folder by themselves, run it. |
| 08:49.54 | evl | I use http://www.patchitbaby.com/ for wow patches |
| 08:49.55 | ZealotOnAStick | then use a normal bittorrent client, pointed to your mostly-complete one already. |
| 08:50.00 | evl | HTTP download from germany, zero fuzz |
| 08:50.03 | evl | torrents suck :P |
| 08:50.07 | syeren | Does it have PTR? |
| 08:50.15 | evl | dunno :) |
| 08:51.06 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r32881 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: |
| 08:51.06 | CIA-11 | PitBull |
| 08:51.06 | CIA-11 | - place combattext on portrait if available in ABF |
| 08:55.41 | Elkano | ammo, will Closetgnome_tooltip replace that code in closetgnome_banker? |
| 08:56.05 | [Ammo] | well |
| 08:56.13 | [Ammo] | currently if you have banker installed it'll disable itself |
| 08:56.16 | [Ammo] | and tell the user |
| 08:56.22 | [Ammo] | I just coded it for my own enjoyment |
| 08:56.26 | [Ammo] | ddn't know banker had that code |
| 08:56.30 | [Ammo] | till rabbit pointed me at it |
| 08:56.33 | [Ammo] | but I don't use banker |
| 08:56.39 | [Ammo] | and I did want the tooltips |
| 08:56.46 | [Ammo] | maybe this code should just be in ClosetGnome itself |
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| 08:57.18 | Elkano | well, I also only used banker for that code ^^ |
| 08:58.56 | Azurewrath | hm.. there was a manufacturer who made Keyboards in the old IBM Terminal Style.. you know.. the ones you can kill Users with.. Rj11 Connector and KLICK Sound.. anyone know the Company? I need one of those for an old Unix box |
| 08:59.09 | vhaarr | ammo, just remove it from banker |
| 08:59.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Try Keytronix. |
| 08:59.34 | ZealotOnAStick | If you're looking for a 20 pound lumb of plastic and springs, they're the ones. |
| 08:59.49 | Azurewrath | hehe, sounds good, i'll try.. Thanks :) |
| 08:59.50 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: ok |
| 08:59.58 | ZealotOnAStick | lump, rather. |
| 09:00.02 | [Ammo] | or shall I add this code to closetgnome itself |
| 09:00.08 | [Ammo] | with an option to show stuff in the tooltip? |
| 09:00.11 | vhaarr | no |
| 09:00.12 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 09:00.51 | ZealotOnAStick | hrm. No, that may be wrong. |
| 09:01.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Gimme a minute, let me try some google-fu |
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| 09:04.18 | ZealotOnAStick | I was close. Keytronics. |
| 09:04.23 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r32882 10ClosetGnome_Banker/Banker.lua: ClosetGnome_Banker: remove tooltip code, install ClosetGnome_Tooltip if you want your closetgnome sets in item tooltips. |
| 09:04.31 | ZealotOnAStick | try keyboardgalaxy.com |
| 09:04.50 | ZealotOnAStick | cs, x, whatever. |
| 09:05.05 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r32883 10ClosetGnome_Tooltip/ (ClosetGnome_Tooltip.lua ClosetGnome_Tooltip.toc): ClosetGnome_Tooltip: remove closetgnome_banker disablinge etc |
| 09:05.19 | Azurewrath | i found out it's Keytronic afterall ;) |
| 09:05.24 | Elkano | Kemayo: sth broke SilverDragon :/ SilverDragon-2.0.27768\\Core.lua:268: attempt to index local 'region' (a nil value) |
| 09:05.26 | [Ammo] | keytronic pwns |
| 09:05.35 | [Ammo] | wouldn't ever use any other keyboard |
| 09:05.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: Think I found a bug in DogTag. Line 1042, shouldn't #tag actually be #modifier ? |
| 09:05.43 | Elkano | Azurewrath: how about Cherry? |
| 09:06.01 | NightHawkTheSane | well, more of a typo than a bug, but meh. |
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| 09:06.57 | Azurewrath | Elkano: no rj11 connectors afaik.. but seems to be the same with Keytronic.. i guess i need an PS/2 -> rj11 Adaptor.. |
| 09:07.30 | Elkano | well, at least I remember Cherry for building 'oldschool' keaboards ^^ |
| 09:07.31 | Azurewrath | combined with an IBM Model M or something.. <3 |
| 09:07.52 | Azurewrath | jup, i use Cherry Keyboards only.. who needs Media Keys and shit.. |
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| 09:15.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: Pastey for the code for the DogTag modifier, if you want to put it in (I don't have svn access): http://ace.pastey.net/13251 May not be the best way, but it seems to work. *shrug* |
| 09:16.46 | ckknight | get SVN access :-P |
| 09:16.50 | ckknight | I'll check it after SFK |
| 09:17.18 | Fisker- | wtf lol! |
| 09:17.46 | Elkano | hmm... sth in Prat broke: at least sometimes it doesn't color the 'come online' messenges in class color but as unknown class |
| 09:17.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: hah, im not sure i'd commit anything often enough to make it worth the trouble |
| 09:18.40 | Nickenyfiken | Is EavesDrop still working? |
| 09:18.47 | Silviu- | For me yes |
| 09:18.58 | Nickenyfiken | Want to give it a go again cus i think it will fit in my UI now |
| 09:19.42 | Azurewrath | yay, keyboard porn ;) http://www.preater.com/modelm/images/model-m-clean-front-large.jpg |
| 09:20.42 | nevcairiel | ckknight: hrm, could it be that AceConsole doesnt pass passValue to the hidden func? |
| 09:20.51 | ckknight | could be. |
| 09:21.09 | ckknight | that was vhaarr's doing |
| 09:24.05 | vhaarr | what? |
| 09:24.21 | nevcairiel | my hidden func errors because it doesnt get the passValue |
| 09:24.48 | vhaarr | yeah AceConsole has 2-3 critical bugs at the moment |
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| 09:33.37 | Dynom | I can make a mil without saying anything on a track \o> |
| 09:34.34 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel * r32884 10Bartender3/Options.lua: Bartender3: removed hidden func from one option until AceConsole is fixed |
| 09:34.53 | CIA-11 | 03sbu * r32885 10Tattle/EUVerderbnis.lua: Tattle: added battlegroup data for EU-Verderbnis |
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| 09:39.17 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r32886 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/ (Prat.lua Prat.toc extras/PratFu.lua extras/profiling.lua): Prat: Broke out the profiling code into something that can be made into a library |
| 09:42.28 | Fisker- | sylvanaar did you add some kind of friendslist highlighting? :o? |
| 09:42.48 | sylvanaar | Elkano Fisker- says you broke Prat |
| 09:43.14 | sylvanaar | Fisker- no, thats some other addon, and using it probably breaks Prat |
| 09:43.38 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: did you paste the error? I didn't see it. |
| 09:43.41 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 09:43.45 | Elkano | sylvanaar, since I didn't change anything to it it's as usual: he talks trash ;) |
| 09:43.45 | Fisker- | well i have no other addons! |
| 09:44.15 | sylvanaar | pastey SV's |
| 09:44.28 | Fisker- | no other addons were a joke >P |
| 09:44.29 | Fisker- | :P |
| 09:44.38 | Fisker- | Just saw some time that a friend whispered me |
| 09:44.42 | Fisker- | and the text was green |
| 09:44.48 | Fisker- | instead of purple |
| 09:44.59 | Fisker- | no wait that was in trade actually :o |
| 09:45.14 | Diao | sylvanaar Prat was broken for me |
| 09:45.23 | Diao | Haven't updated for about 3 hours now but |
| 09:45.26 | Diao | [2007/04/17 02:10:45-755-x48]: Chronometer-0.10\Core\Chronometer.lua:746: attempt to index local 'timer' (a nil value) |
| 09:45.26 | Diao | <in C code>: ? |
| 09:45.26 | Diao | AceEvent-2.0-32527 (Prat):322: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 09:45.26 | Diao | AceEvent-2.0-32527 (Prat):1009: in function <...rface\AddOns\Prat\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:1002> |
| 09:45.27 | Diao | --- |
| 09:47.10 | sylvanaar | thats just where your aceevent is embedded |
| 09:47.49 | Fisker- | Elkano remember back when prat was good_ |
| 09:47.50 | Fisker- | ? |
| 09:47.51 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: no i didnt paste it, but its a simple error .. my func complains that "table" is nil, which means it didnt get the passValue at all :) |
| 09:48.02 | sylvanaar | i am going to change when prat loads so that some other mod loads first |
| 09:48.08 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I can't fix it without a trace |
| 09:48.08 | sylvanaar | like vharr did |
| 09:48.58 | Elkano | Fisker-, well it had only been a few messanges that didn't work... seems to be fine again :/ |
| 09:49.09 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3110.msg94485#msg94485 |
| 09:49.15 | nevcairiel | that guy posted it |
| 09:50.07 | Fisker- | you're doing it wrong Elkano |
| 09:50.16 | Elkano | :P |
| 09:52.44 | sylvanaar | Elkano i changed that code recently one of the commits may have been incorrect, but if it doesnt work at the current version level let me know |
| 09:53.32 | sylvanaar | Fisker- what do you mean, your friendslist is colored? |
| 09:53.36 | Fisker- | nah |
| 09:53.44 | Fisker- | Someone posted in trade and the whole message was green |
| 09:53.48 | Fisker- | no other messages were green |
| 09:53.54 | Fisker- | then i saw he was on my friendslist |
| 09:54.00 | Fisker- | Never encountered it again though |
| 09:54.01 | sylvanaar | whole message? lol |
| 09:54.04 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:54.12 | Fisker- | Only thing different was the class color |
| 09:54.19 | sylvanaar | wierd |
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| 09:54.36 | Fisker- | I thought it was guild chat for a moment but it wasn't a guildie so i went back to see wtf was going on :P |
| 09:55.22 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: you assume that passValue will be passed to the set and get functions, which is not true |
| 09:55.29 | dotted | what if it was a guildie impersonating a random dude Fisker- |
| 09:55.36 | Elkano | sylvanaar, I'm runing 32544... the first two messanges that happend a few minutes after login didn't work, those after that did. maybe your caching on login is broken? since iirc I opend the friends frame sometime in between seeing it broken and fixed |
| 09:55.43 | sylvanaar | Diao Prat doesnt use chronometer |
| 09:57.04 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I wish it did work like that, but it doesn't, and the API docs specify that. |
| 09:57.28 | vhaarr | and if Dewdrop does things differently, that's just another critical bug |
| 09:57.49 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32887 10Aloft/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:57.49 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 09:57.49 | CIA-11 | - Guild Text in attached mode no longer removes colour settings in NameText |
| 09:57.49 | CIA-11 | - NameText now uses shorter UpdateTextSimple if possible in response to OnNameplateShow |
| 09:58.49 | Fisker- | my internet has been working for 35 minutes omg nice |
| 10:00.10 | Elkano | reminds me of my ZG raid last weekend :/ Inet broke every 5min :/ |
| 10:00.29 | vhaarr | ZG .. raid ? :P |
| 10:01.26 | sbu | last weekend? :p |
| 10:02.14 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r32888 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 10:02.14 | CIA-11 | RatingBuster: |
| 10:02.14 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:08.40 | sylvanaar | Elkano yeah, thats possible, Prat also doesnt scan on FRIENDLIST_UPDATE at the moment, that may be related |
| 10:09.22 | Elkano | wrt ZG: yes, 15 person fun raid afer Onyxia ^^ |
| 10:09.36 | Elkano | was my first time in ZG so who cares ^^ |
| 10:10.10 | sylvanaar | Elkano it may be a bug that got introduced when trying to fix someone elses bug |
| 10:10.46 | Fisker- | i 1manned zg |
| 10:14.31 | Diao | lol |
| 10:14.36 | Diao | ony is fun with 5 man |
| 10:14.39 | Diao | easy 20g for each |
| 10:18.56 | Fisker- | you can 1man onyxia |
| 10:18.59 | Fisker- | just kite her to vael's room |
| 10:19.50 | Fisker- | Gruul bugs and the gate stays closed after a wipe where someone has hearthed while the encounter was occuring. |
| 10:19.53 | Fisker- | i'll do that today |
| 10:20.01 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar * r32889 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Drycode fixes |
| 10:21.45 | [Ammo] | my guild finally killed gruul yesterday |
| 10:21.46 | [Ammo] | yay |
| 10:21.57 | [Ammo] | 3rd night on him |
| 10:22.03 | Gagorian | he's such a joke now :( |
| 10:22.20 | Gagorian | shatter tickles a bit |
| 10:22.41 | [Ammo] | I think he's more tuned to what he is supposed to be atm |
| 10:22.57 | Gagorian | yeah |
| 10:23.11 | [Ammo] | stepping stone to serpentshrine etc |
| 10:23.21 | Gagorian | but it's a massive difference now |
| 10:23.28 | Gagorian | SSC will be a slap to the face :P |
| 10:23.41 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 10:23.41 | Kinkx | Magtheridon is still pretty hard, even after they nerfed him |
| 10:23.49 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r32890 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/modules/ (PlayerNames.lua Substitutions.lua): Prat: current with trunk |
| 10:23.53 | Gagorian | well, ok SSC is more reasonable now after the trash nerfs |
| 10:23.55 | [Ammo] | mag is our next goal |
| 10:24.00 | Gagorian | It was fucking horrible before |
| 10:24.32 | sbu | mag? hm i think SSC would not be that hard |
| 10:24.47 | Kinkx | Mag aint that hard of a fight, but you have to rely on so many people to not fuck up.. kind of sucks |
| 10:25.02 | Gagorian | mag difficulty is pretty much proportional to amount of warlocks in the raid |
| 10:25.34 | Fisker- | Magtheridon should be easy after the channelers |
| 10:25.54 | Kinkx | Yea it should in theory, but hasn't happend for us so far.. always some mistakes :[ |
| 10:25.55 | Fisker- | That is if you got cube clickers doing their job |
| 10:26.01 | Fisker- | spoilers: our cube clickers fialed |
| 10:26.03 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:26.14 | Gagorian | BigWigs timer is wrong for the blastwave |
| 10:26.14 | Fisker- | I don't get it though |
| 10:26.18 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 10:26.20 | Gagorian | About 10s too early |
| 10:26.21 | Fisker- | something like that |
| 10:26.29 | [Ammo] | Gagorian: might be a cooldown timer |
| 10:26.41 | Gagorian | Well, some other bossmod had it correct |
| 10:26.43 | Fisker- | Well i'm not sure if i understand this correctly |
| 10:26.51 | Fisker- | But Blast nova is a 10 second spell and then he does damage right? |
| 10:27.00 | Kinkx | Just click when you see "Magtheridon beings to cast Blast Nova!" or what it says |
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| 10:27.16 | Gagorian | Yeah, that's the way to do it |
| 10:27.30 | Fisker- | The way he worked for us is that he starts out with the 2k periodic damage |
| 10:27.48 | Gagorian | [Ammo]: It's possible. Someone in the raid claimed their timer was correct though, so I'm not certain |
| 10:27.54 | Fisker- | But i read it like you get 10 seconds then he does 2k periodic damage |
| 10:28.10 | [Ammo] | maybe the timerbar is for when he starts casting? |
| 10:28.19 | Fisker- | that was what i was thinking |
| 10:28.21 | [Ammo] | if it's a 10 second cast it would be why you think it's incorrect? |
| 10:28.28 | Gagorian | It's not 10s cast :c |
| 10:28.31 | [Ammo] | (I dunno how magtheridon works etc, and I haven't actually looked at the module) |
| 10:29.06 | Gagorian | well imo the timer should be adjusted so that.. bar runs out -> click on the cube |
| 10:29.07 | Fisker- | From i've understood from the guides he starts channeling a spell, when it's done he starts doing 2k damage to each player each 2 seconds for 10 seconds |
| 10:29.10 | Kinkx | As long as everyone clicks when you see the message that hes casting, he shouldn't have time to cast.. at worst if someone are a bit late raid will get hit once, which aint that big of deal |
| 10:29.56 | Gagorian | Blast Nova: Deals roughly 2500 damage every 2 seconds for 10 seconds to every player in the lair. First cast is 1 mins after Magtheridon activate, on a 60 second cooldown. Will result in a wipe if he's allowed to cast it. |
| 10:30.19 | Fisker- | Ok |
| 10:30.34 | Fisker- | That explains why we were all hit with that 2k nova in the start |
| 10:31.05 | Gagorian | seems like the timer is set to 50 seconds |
| 10:31.10 | Gagorian | in the bigwigs module |
| 10:31.33 | Gagorian | self:Bar(L["nova_"], 52, "Spell_Fire_SealOfFire") |
| 10:31.33 | Gagorian | self:DelayedMessage(50, L["nova_warning"], "Urgent") |
| 10:32.00 | Gagorian | well, if people click the cubes at that point.. it's a wipe :> |
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| 10:37.48 | vhaarr | Gagorian: are you saying the BW module is flawed? |
| 10:37.54 | vhaarr | should it be changed to 60? |
| 10:38.00 | Fisker- | OH god no! |
| 10:38.13 | vhaarr | so it's fine? |
| 10:38.21 | Fisker- | not me |
| 10:38.28 | vhaarr | :o |
| 10:38.32 | Fisker- | i'm just pissed that pt3bar is updated |
| 10:38.37 | Fisker- | forgot to backup my settings |
| 10:38.38 | Gagorian | Well, last night it wasn't reflecting the time when he starts correctly repeatedly |
| 10:39.12 | vhaarr | perhaps you could fix it, then |
| 10:39.17 | Gagorian | But it seemed about 10s off, and wiki claims it's 60 seconds.. So it would seem it's the time |
| 10:39.19 | evl | http://www.dtguilds.com/images/sebudai.jpg |
| 10:39.25 | evl | motivational reading! |
| 10:39.54 | Punkie` | evl: OMG THIS IS NEW MATERIAL!!1 |
| 10:40.09 | Gagorian | vhaarr: Perhaps, haven't done much magtheridon yet so I'd need to time it to make sure. |
| 10:40.10 | evl | Punkie`: i just found it damnit |
| 10:40.25 | evl | Punkie`: but I see you finally reunited with your Capslockkey.Facebook.MySpace.com? |
| 10:40.38 | evl | caps lock = web 2.0 community. |
| 10:41.04 | Punkie` | caps lock is the cruse control for awesome |
| 10:41.07 | Punkie` | durr |
| 10:43.07 | Gagorian | la vendetta boss mods seems to have 54 seconds |
| 10:43.53 | evl | Why would one want to use Vendetta over BigWigs? |
| 10:44.06 | Punkie` | because it has a pro name now |
| 10:44.08 | Punkie` | like 'Deadly' |
| 10:44.27 | evl | So you get more deadly using them? |
| 10:44.34 | evl | Like a snake? |
| 10:44.43 | evl | Deadly Poison Snake Boss MOds? |
| 10:44.43 | Punkie` | no |
| 10:44.50 | Gagorian | evl: Who said anything about using it over bigwigs? :O |
| 10:44.51 | Punkie` | like a giant monster of pwnage |
| 10:45.12 | evl | Uuuur Bossmods |
| 10:45.20 | Diao | I use both DBM and bigwigs :x |
| 10:45.21 | Fisker- | evl because it nurses people |
| 10:45.55 | Fisker- | Rotate 90 degrees run 10 steps forward, position your mouse in the middle and right click |
| 10:46.05 | evl | Oh, like Threat meter? |
| 10:46.05 | Punkie` | haha |
| 10:46.33 | evl | "Hey, I'm a fucking idiot and can't play my class so I get agro all the time, can you help me?" |
| 10:46.50 | [Ammo] | punkie is actually one of those people |
| 10:46.54 | haste | yes, just use KTM evl ! |
| 10:47.19 | evl | haste: You dork; I put it in quotes so it should look like I'm someone else saying it, grown up damnit. |
| 10:47.22 | Punkie` | [Ammo]: you are the one paying for our guild to use RDX6, sthu! |
| 10:47.26 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 10:47.30 | haste | :3 |
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| 10:47.57 | Fisker- | evl in the same way "Hey i'm a fucking idiot and don't know bossencounters can you help me?" is with bigwigs |
| 10:48.04 | evl | I don't use BigWigs |
| 10:48.12 | evl | I just look at the boss's hands |
| 10:48.16 | Fisker- | I didn't say you did |
| 10:48.34 | evl | Wanna fight? |
| 10:48.43 | Fisker- | my dad can beat you up |
| 10:48.47 | Punkie` | Fisker-: were you the person who started the 'How old were you when you first fapped?' thread on wow-eu forums? |
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| 10:49.02 | evl | legendary thread |
| 10:49.12 | Fisker- | nah Punkie` :( |
| 10:49.16 | Punkie` | :( |
| 10:49.28 | Fisker- | when did he get banned? |
| 10:50.43 | Punkie` | dunno |
| 10:52.03 | Fisker- | stupid forums are down |
| 10:52.05 | Fisker- | as usual |
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| 11:00.51 | CIA-11 | FuBar_tcgTradeskills: |
| 11:00.51 | CIA-11 | add traditional chinese translations |
| 11:01.30 | CIA-11 | 03mcc * r32892 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/CoreLocals.lua: |
| 11:01.30 | CIA-11 | FuBar_tcgTradeskills: |
| 11:01.30 | CIA-11 | add traditional chinese translations |
| 11:01.35 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r32893 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua: BigWigs: add proximityCheck to curator |
| 11:03.14 | vhaarr | curator needs no proximity check |
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| 11:06.09 | Gagorian | I'll play around with the maggie module today, added announcement for blast wave casting and adjusted a bit.. shall see how it works |
| 11:08.27 | kebinusan | doomwalker could probably use a prox check tho for that annoying chain lightning *shrugs |
| 11:14.55 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32894 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua AloftTag.lua): Aloft: Initial commit of AloftTagging system. Not hooked in in any way, but tests from command line seem to show code working as intended |
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| 11:16.32 | SunTiger | WORK FOR THE WORK GOD! DOCUMENTS FOR THE PAPER THRONE! |
| 11:22.26 | kebinusan | bleh |
| 11:22.43 | kebinusan | does postal track outgoing mails? |
| 11:22.49 | kebinusan | so you can see where you sent stuff? |
| 11:23.15 | vhaarr | no, but someone should add that |
| 11:23.44 | kebinusan | yeah, I just mailed 40 soulcloth to the wrong person I think |
| 11:23.52 | kebinusan | or at least they didnt get it yesterday |
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| 11:27.00 | evl | does postal have the same features as GMail did before the slaughter? |
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| 11:29.12 | kebinusan | it has most of ths tuff you 'd want in a mail mod, mass mailing and picking up all the crap in your inbox |
| 11:29.51 | Kinkx | Can you alt-click items that you want to send? |
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| 11:31.42 | kebinusan | yah |
| 11:32.44 | evl | nice install inc! |
| 11:34.49 | CIA-11 | 03shiftos * r32895 10Babble-2.2/ (8 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 11:34.49 | CIA-11 | Babble-2.2: |
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| 11:47.07 | Sole | wtf is babble-gas now? |
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| 11:48.49 | Stephmw | gas resources... pvp thing, isn't it? |
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| 11:56.21 | Sole | ahh gas resources? |
| 11:56.32 | Sole | you mean the clouds with motes in em? |
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| 12:00.40 | Stephmw | dunno, haven't seem em yet :) |
| 12:00.58 | Stephmw | managed to reach level 70 without exploring some bits of outlands |
| 12:01.45 | Sole | you need some engineering goggles equipped to even see em :) |
| 12:01.51 | Stephmw | meh |
| 12:01.55 | Sole | and an engineering tool to mine em |
| 12:02.06 | Stephmw | that's like the engineering-only item that effectively stacks 20 mana pots |
| 12:02.13 | Sole | hehe yeh |
| 12:02.23 | Sole | FUCK YEAH |
| 12:02.29 | Stephmw | why, oh, why did I pick up enchanting again? |
| 12:02.35 | nuoHep | you dont _need_ goggles to see em. its just much easier |
| 12:02.38 | Sole | arena ranks updated.. rank 46th in 2v2 |
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| 12:06.38 | Stephmw | haven't taken part in Arenas yet |
| 12:07.08 | Stephmw | got a bit burned out on pvp grinding AV |
| 12:08.26 | evl | I avoid BG's because of that |
| 12:08.36 | evl | You get bored. |
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| 12:09.33 | Stephmw | annoyed is more what I was with AV, and AB... WSG was just stupid. |
| 12:09.47 | Elkano | well, I still have most of my honor points so I'm thinking about getting the feral staff |
| 12:09.50 | Stephmw | the lack of premades in AV made it at least a little unpredictable |
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| 12:11.22 | kenlyric | Stephmw: hmmmm. I've never seen alliance lose AV, so I guess my experience is different. |
| 12:11.41 | kenlyric | And this is when alliance totally sucks,like getting pushed back all the way to the starting tunnel. |
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| 12:12.00 | kenlyric | I should say "never seen alliance lose after the AV revamp" |
| 12:12.05 | Stephmw | kenlyric: ya know... s/alliance/horde/ and you have my battelgroup summarised |
| 12:12.15 | Stephmw | *battlegroup |
| 12:12.16 | Sole | horde never lost AV on my server unless it was to a guild until cross server BGs :/ |
| 12:12.33 | Stephmw | the killer in AV is giving up, no matter which side |
| 12:12.34 | kenlyric | AV was the only evenly matched BG before the big nerf. |
| 12:12.54 | kenlyric | once a faction gets used to losing, they start out losing, so it just kinda snowballs. |
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| 12:13.25 | Stephmw | I've joined a few AVs where we pushed the alliance back from the general |
| 12:13.28 | evl | only thing AV is good for is speccing shadowstep and putting on max AP gear :P |
| 12:13.29 | Kinkx | Easier for Ally to win AV, since they can skip alot of NPC's.. so in theory Ally should win more |
| 12:13.30 | kenlyric | why am I talking about PVP like I know or care? |
| 12:13.43 | Stephmw | kenlyric: hahaha |
| 12:13.55 | Sole | I like arenas a lot more than BGs |
| 12:14.15 | Stephmw | kenlyric: ground it as far as getting the few bits I needed, but that was still too much |
| 12:14.22 | kenlyric | I should try an arena... I did some world pvp in hellfire this weekend, and it was a lot of fun having those rapid battles in close quarters. |
| 12:14.34 | Sole | arena is so different from BGs |
| 12:14.37 | kenlyric | meh, nothing I need out of there. |
| 12:14.58 | kenlyric | NO SPIRIT! |
| 12:15.01 | Sole | best melee weps til black temple? |
| 12:16.23 | Stephmw | kenlyric: got the +15spi enchant on chest? |
| 12:16.27 | kenlyric | I do. |
| 12:16.36 | kenlyric | <---- whore. |
| 12:16.39 | Stephmw | ;) |
| 12:16.49 | Stephmw | <---- sensible... sta+int mage |
| 12:16.58 | kenlyric | makes me wish they had actually scaled/thought about spirit for the xpac. |
| 12:17.00 | Stephmw | makes my priests happy |
| 12:17.35 | kenlyric | or, thought about mana regen/efficiency for priests at all. |
| 12:17.40 | Sole | tailoring is where its at for mages/locks right now |
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| 12:18.18 | Stephmw | Sole: any favourites? |
| 12:18.26 | Sole | Stephmw: Im a rogue :P |
| 12:18.30 | Stephmw | lol |
| 12:18.32 | kenlyric | "I know, we'll multiply everyone's health by 1.5 but scale healing spells in a straight line. It's genius!" |
| 12:18.51 | Stephmw | well, atm I'm spending all my ench/tail mats on outfitting my 4-man with 18-slotters |
| 12:18.54 | Sole | healing is big enough already |
| 12:19.28 | Bruners | 18-slotters? |
| 12:19.38 | Stephmw | Imbued Netherweave Bags |
| 12:19.49 | Bruners | dont they all have that already ? |
| 12:19.54 | Sole | Stephmw: start crafting yourself frozen shadoweave set and spellstrike or whatever it is |
| 12:20.10 | Sole | Stephmw: that stuff will last you for raid dps til tier 6 |
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| 12:21.14 | Bruners | and they become robes the next patch :) |
| 12:21.52 | kenlyric | BOOO |
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| 12:28.01 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r32896 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/ (Prat.lua extras/util.lua modules/PlayerNames.lua): |
| 12:28.01 | CIA-11 | Prat: fixed the color decorator fuctions so they wont modify the original |
| 12:28.01 | CIA-11 | table, but can still change the values. CLR:Desaturate working for desaturating |
| 12:28.02 | CIA-11 | the player level coloring. Changed/Removed many debugging statements and tables. |
| 12:28.03 | CIA-11 | Fixed an awful logic flaw in the output capture which caused double prints from |
| 12:28.05 | CIA-11 | one message. |
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| 12:30.51 | JJSheets | ckknight, ping |
| 12:30.51 | ckknight | pong |
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| 12:31.10 | JJSheets | ckknight, I was wondering if you'd mind if I used your profiling code as a module in my Expo Addon? |
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| 12:32.22 | Elkano | great :/ just got a tutorial sheduled for wednesday 6pm :/ |
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| 12:34.50 | ckknight | JJSheets: knock yourself out |
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| 12:35.06 | JJSheets | ckknight, cool, thanks! :) |
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| 12:35.52 | Stephmw | Bruners: bah, I used to enjoy surprising hapless folk in BGs. At a quick glance I looked like rogue ;-) |
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| 12:36.04 | Stephmw | Bruners: their surprise was often shortlived |
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| 12:56.03 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r32899 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/ (Prat.lua extras/profiling.lua): Prat: refer to the profiling code as PerfLib |
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| 13:08.36 | syeren | Any addon that can do what Rating Buster does in Ace? |
| 13:09.14 | kenlyric | o.O |
| 13:09.29 | syeren | Oh shit, it's Ace now. |
| 13:09.35 | syeren | When I used it, it wasn't ;p |
| 13:09.57 | [Ammo] | zomg need Ace Ace |
| 13:10.53 | Elkano | ckknight should port Ace to use Ace2 ;) |
| 13:11.14 | ckknight | ...no |
| 13:11.33 | Elkano | or even better: port Ace2 to Ace2 since Ace has been depreciated anyways |
| 13:12.21 | ckknight | it is Ace2 by definition |
| 13:12.53 | syeren | [Ammo], the reason I asked for it in Ace is because I got sick of going to Curse-shit heap to get fucking updates. |
| 13:12.54 | syeren | ;p |
| 13:13.21 | nuoHep | syeren, it was on wowi :p |
| 13:13.32 | kenlyric | WUU friend good! |
| 13:14.11 | Vegeta]BT[ | are there any descriptions how postal and / or Postman works ? I still have the feeling, that these two addons don't do anything |
| 13:14.54 | syeren | Postal works. |
| 13:14.58 | syeren | I use that :p |
| 13:15.18 | syeren | Adds Shortcut keys for mail sending / receiving, An adress book. and other stuff ;p |
| 13:15.24 | Vegeta]BT[ | i do not remember who said that, but by pressing the alt button it should at least ad the item into the mail frame, but it does not work, and in the keybindings there is no entry about that |
| 13:16.27 | kebinusan | alt clicking an item in your bag sends it to the recipient in the to field |
| 13:16.32 | [Ammo] | yarrr |
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| 13:16.52 | Chosi | could anybody tell me the name of the addon to display addon loading times? |
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| 13:17.14 | kenlyric | hmmm.. they very obviously do something. What's even the point of a comment like that? |
| 13:17.18 | Vegeta]BT[ | Yes that should happen kebinusan, but it does not work in my place |
| 13:17.25 | kenlyric | at the very least, it's painfully obvious that they both add an open all function. |
| 13:17.50 | syeren | nuoHep, Wowinterface is annoying. |
| 13:17.56 | Vegeta]BT[ | some month ago i already asked about the function of postal, and there someone tells me that with the alt button |
| 13:17.59 | syeren | I tend to have to google the addons I want for that place >_> |
| 13:18.20 | kenlyric | syeren: wow ui updater... WUU... find it, love it, kiss it :) |
| 13:18.44 | kenlyric | then complain endlessly about how hopelessly complicated it is :) |
| 13:19.11 | Vegeta]BT[ | ^^ |
| 13:19.17 | syeren | I'll stick with WAU for now, and complain endlessly about why Devs think Slider-Bars are good. |
| 13:19.24 | syeren | BECAUSE THEY'RE FUCKING USELESS. |
| 13:19.26 | kebinusan | Vegeta, you have any competing mail mods loaded? possibly your bag mod thats stopping that? the standard unload everything but postal and give it a go |
| 13:19.51 | Vegeta]BT[ | i have also installed One Bag / One Bank and One Ring |
| 13:19.56 | kebinusan | syeren: most things that have slider bars have slash commands for the same thing |
| 13:20.10 | syeren | I just find it easier to log out and edit the lua >_> |
| 13:20.40 | Chosi | nobody? :| |
| 13:20.46 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.51 | kenlyric | yeah, slider bars are fun. Especially when they refuse to hit a really common number, like 50. |
| 13:20.57 | kenlyric | 49, no 51, no 48, no 51! |
| 13:21.01 | kebinusan | kenlyric: yeah |
| 13:21.07 | kenlyric | TRU SMASH! |
| 13:21.11 | syeren | kenlyric, I get so fucking angry. |
| 13:21.22 | syeren | I mean actually have to sit back before I punch something ;p |
| 13:21.23 | kenlyric | <--- tru, cause I guess you people don't know that. |
| 13:21.24 | syeren | With slider bars. |
| 13:21.30 | kebinusan | sliders need an additional option for 'my mouse is not that sensitive let me type damnit' |
| 13:21.40 | syeren | My mouse is 2000DPI. |
| 13:21.47 | Vegeta]BT[ | i only have postal installed, i used ct_mailmod earlier but when i discovered that ace is much faster i had deleted everything which is not ace |
| 13:21.47 | evl | fucking AYE |
| 13:21.49 | syeren | But I play with a resolution over 2000. |
| 13:21.50 | evl | I need that box besides the slideer |
| 13:21.56 | kenlyric | sliders are good for something that's imprecise like colors. |
| 13:22.04 | kenlyric | but numbers? meh. |
| 13:22.26 | Saroz | mamma |
| 13:22.33 | kenlyric | if it updated in real time, a slider makes sense. But usually frames don't. |
| 13:23.10 | kenlyric | now I can't remember if they update in real time... |
| 13:23.10 | kebinusan | yeah the only lua I edit is bartender to stop shift dragging items off buttons with buttons locked |
| 13:23.13 | Chosi | need addon loading times ffs |
| 13:23.23 | Chosi | or i'll spam slider bars |
| 13:24.44 | sylvanaar | Chosi the problem is more complicated than what can me measured in lua |
| 13:24.53 | Vegeta]BT[ | what sence does it make, when you know the loading times ? if there's enough Main Memory in your Workstation it should be quite only a few seconds |
| 13:24.58 | Chosi | i used to have one |
| 13:25.13 | Chosi | but can't remember the damn name |
| 13:25.28 | Vegeta]BT[ | could you explain it to me ? |
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| 13:25.53 | Chosi | Vegeta]BT[: it's not, that's why i wanna found out which addon takes most of the loading time |
| 13:25.59 | nuoHep | Chosi, warmup? |
| 13:26.22 | Chosi | that's it |
| 13:26.23 | Chosi | thanks :) |
| 13:26.23 | Vegeta]BT[ | ah ok |
| 13:29.57 | sylvanaar | Chosi how many addons do you have? |
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| 13:31.17 | Chosi | lemme count the used oens |
| 13:32.30 | Elkano | problem with warmup is that you have to force it to load first somehow :/ and names don't work on all systems for that |
| 13:33.07 | Chosi | well there's cartographer and bigwigs |
| 13:33.12 | Chosi | and some smaller fubar ones |
| 13:33.16 | kebinusan | grep enabled AddOns.txt | wc -l ... hmm 62 addons enabled |
| 13:33.28 | Chosi | i've counted the modules too |
| 13:33.30 | Chosi | 104 |
| 13:33.31 | Chosi | :> |
| 13:33.33 | kebinusan | but 180 folders in my addons folder |
| 13:33.40 | kebinusan | I have some cleaning to do |
| 13:33.59 | Chosi | 245 folders n mine |
| 13:34.02 | Chosi | :D |
| 13:34.09 | Vegeta]BT[ | i've got 116 Working addons for now ^^ |
| 13:34.22 | [Ammo] | http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/vilcus/ :) (I know old 1 april blah blah) |
| 13:34.23 | Chosi | yeah 104 for me |
| 13:35.18 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 13:35.35 | kenlyric | 122 objects |
| 13:35.52 | kenlyric | damn you cart! |
| 13:36.38 | Elkano | I wont count mine.. would only lead to frustration |
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| 13:37.14 | sylvanaar | at 100 addons, if every addon increases loading times by 300ms your load time would be 30 seconds |
| 13:38.48 | sylvanaar | i dont think that lua based tools are accurate beyond 100ms |
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| 13:39.43 | Elkano | maybe I should unpack those few LoD package addons we have but it makes updateing via svn such a pain :/ |
| 13:40.02 | sylvanaar | use wau ;) |
| 13:40.20 | [Ammo] | don't use wau |
| 13:40.24 | [Ammo] | just use an update.bat |
| 13:40.38 | Morghus | Oo? |
| 13:40.49 | sylvanaar | or use wau |
| 13:40.54 | Chosi | well another question |
| 13:40.57 | evl | I wish there was something called Compressor, which drilled down in all my AddOns\* folders and figured out what libraries they all need then stuffed them into a !Something folder |
| 13:41.00 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: I need to be able to flag stuff in WAU as potentially dangerous. |
| 13:41.01 | evl | that would be god damn neat. |
| 13:41.01 | Chosi | what about the addons that come with standalone libs? |
| 13:41.10 | Chosi | err come with their own libs |
| 13:41.14 | Chosi | if i update with externals |
| 13:41.21 | Chosi | do i still need the standalone libs? |
| 13:41.22 | sylvanaar | vhaarr what? |
| 13:41.59 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Say when I commit something to a library that is not ready for general use, I'll throw a tag in it somewhere and WAU will read it and display a warning to the user before updating. |
| 13:42.08 | Morghus | Anyone here that does work on RatingBuster? |
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| 13:42.20 | sylvanaar | evl that'd be retarded, there was once such a thing we had to delete it |
| 13:42.31 | evl | :( |
| 13:42.48 | sylvanaar | vhaarr yeah, its not wau that owns that, its the zip script |
| 13:42.53 | vhaarr | owns what? |
| 13:43.42 | sylvanaar | vhaarr the "latest" version number |
| 13:43.52 | vhaarr | I'm not talking about version numbers |
| 13:44.07 | sylvanaar | vhaarr you are in a round about way |
| 13:44.16 | vhaarr | no |
| 13:46.34 | sylvanaar | by placing the tag in the file and committing it you are tagging a version number range from when you put the tag int the file through when you remove it. i see what you are asking for. |
| 13:47.02 | vhaarr | I didn't mean "tag" in the SVN sense, I meant "tag" in the sense that WAU can read it. |
| 13:48.11 | Chosi | takes me 55secs to get in game :( |
| 13:48.20 | Chosi | after hitting enter world |
| 13:48.22 | Chosi | fuck that. |
| 13:48.38 | Vegeta]BT[ | how much Ram do you have ? |
| 13:48.47 | kenlyric | your server is up chosi? |
| 13:48.48 | Vegeta]BT[ | and script memory ? |
| 13:49.05 | Elkano | hmmm... can we produce sth that updating an addon makes all addons within 40yd update? |
| 13:49.06 | Chosi | 1gig |
| 13:49.09 | Chosi | ram |
| 13:49.12 | Chosi | yeah server is up :P |
| 13:49.21 | syeren | Anyone use Click2Cast here? |
| 13:49.23 | kenlyric | I keep forgetting some people here are EU. |
| 13:49.29 | kenlyric | syeren: I do. |
| 13:49.37 | Silviu- | Chosi your libs are outside addons ? |
| 13:49.40 | kenlyric | wtb more fingers and buttons on my mouse. |
| 13:49.40 | Chosi | kenlyric: are ya getting 2.1 already? |
| 13:49.46 | Vegeta]BT[ | hm that should do it anyway, does any of your addons have a uge database to load with (like auctioneer has) ? |
| 13:49.48 | syeren | Is there anyway I can make my Player frame exempt from my binds ? |
| 13:49.57 | kenlyric | Chosi: uh... it's been on the ptr for three days. Probably not :) |
| 13:50.02 | syeren | I can't leave my party at the moment >_> |
| 13:50.02 | Chosi | Silviu-: i don't have a clue. i always update with externals, maybe that's the problem |
| 13:50.04 | sylvanaar | vhaarr i didnt either |
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| 13:50.11 | kenlyric | syeren: I guess only by hacking the lua. |
| 13:50.20 | syeren | Clique has these options :( |
| 13:50.22 | Silviu- | Chosi ok so libs are inside = longer loading time :) |
| 13:50.22 | kenlyric | I've been meaning to try it out to limit it just to grid. |
| 13:50.22 | sylvanaar | vhaarr just add it to acelibrary |
| 13:50.35 | Punkie` | argh? anyone handy with excel here? :S |
| 13:50.36 | kenlyric | syeren: hmmm.. I might have to switch then. |
| 13:50.40 | sylvanaar | vhaarr or aceaddon |
| 13:50.50 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: I don't need any Lua stuff, I need to tell WAU that this update is potentially risky. |
| 13:50.58 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: I think what vhaar means is he makes a change to for instance dewdroplib and add a dangerous.wau |
| 13:51.07 | vhaarr | I just need to fucking insert the string "beta" in filelist.wau or what-the-fuck-ever. |
| 13:51.10 | [Ammo] | when wau detects that file it prompts the user :) |
| 13:51.14 | Chosi | syeren: so i should just delete the libs from the addons? |
| 13:51.26 | kenlyric | isn't everything in wau dangerous? :) |
| 13:51.33 | vhaarr | kenlyric: yes, but users are fucktards |
| 13:51.54 | kebinusan | but do me a favor, name it keylogger.wau or something |
| 13:52.10 | kenlyric | once every few weeks a take a snapshot of my addons folder in case some wau update makes it bleed. |
| 13:52.22 | kebinusan | heh |
| 13:52.38 | Tain | WAU needs the ability to install specific revisions from SVN. |
| 13:52.40 | kebinusan | I just do a svn up * on maint days |
| 13:52.43 | sylvanaar | you are supposed to maintain your own backups |
| 13:53.28 | sylvanaar | kebinusan what are you talking about keylogger? |
| 13:53.53 | Elkano | I'd love to see files.wowace.com point to the zips without a revision in their name since that would make links others post in forums 'autoupdate'... |
| 13:53.56 | kebinusan | oh, just sort of a joke about users being idiots |
| 13:54.14 | Tain | I think kebinusan just wants to watch the hilarity ensue when someone starts yelling about keyloggers in addons. |
| 13:54.17 | kenlyric | Elkano: isn't there a "latest" link in each folder? |
| 13:54.22 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 13:54.24 | sylvanaar | Elkano yeah, that'd be nice |
| 13:54.24 | kebinusan | tain, yeah pretty much |
| 13:54.32 | [Ammo] | there is a latest link, but no direct zip |
| 13:54.44 | sylvanaar | there is |
| 13:54.55 | sylvanaar | name.zip |
| 13:54.58 | sylvanaar | is the lastest |
| 13:55.07 | kenlyric | hmmm. |
| 13:55.07 | Punkie` | Ammo help me! |
| 13:55.21 | kenlyric | so, why not link to that? |
| 13:55.41 | sylvanaar | http://files.wowace.com/Prat/Prat.zip |
| 13:55.43 | sylvanaar | like that |
| 13:56.06 | kenlyric | right, but make the files.wowace.com page link to those files, not the specific latest reivision file. |
| 13:56.11 | [Ammo] | with what Punkie |
| 13:56.17 | Punkie` | excel :< |
| 13:56.34 | sylvanaar | talk to whoever makes that page |
| 13:56.34 | Elkano | kenlyric, that's what I wanted to say... since normal users that only know the front page won't know that this file exists and they'll use the link on the page which points to the zip for a specific revision |
| 13:56.34 | [Ammo] | I am not touching excel even with a 10 foot pole |
| 13:56.34 | Punkie` | i need to know something that should be damn simple but i dunno how to do it!!!!!! |
| 13:56.56 | kenlyric | I figured that page was born up out of the darkest pits of hell, and had no master. |
| 13:57.13 | Chosi | lolz |
| 13:57.20 | Chosi | uninstalled all addons via wau |
| 13:57.24 | Chosi | reinstalled without externals |
| 13:57.29 | Chosi | the 55secs turned to 5 secs |
| 13:57.30 | Chosi | :P |
| 13:57.38 | sylvanaar | ? |
| 13:57.51 | kenlyric | do any of them work? ;) |
| 13:57.52 | sylvanaar | proabably on test server |
| 13:58.01 | sylvanaar | which doesnt show errors |
| 13:58.08 | Chosi | kenlyric: most don't |
| 13:58.12 | Chosi | :) |
| 13:58.16 | kenlyric | yeah, those externals are important. |
| 13:58.42 | sylvanaar | basically none of em loaded |
| 13:58.44 | kenlyric | i'd imagine most ace mods don't get past the first couple lines of loading without them. |
| 13:58.53 | Chosi | well great. i don't wanna install all of them with externals |
| 13:59.01 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r32900 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0.lua: .SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0: Fix esES. |
| 13:59.02 | Elkano | another thing I'd love to see: have the page group all addons whose ingame name starts with lib: |
| 13:59.04 | Chosi | :| |
| 13:59.27 | sylvanaar | there is standalone libraries, just install it |
| 13:59.31 | kenlyric | sorta like the solution to long lines at an amusement park ride is to just blow up the ride. |
| 14:00.06 | kenlyric | Elkano: or heck, for all libs to be commonly named at all :) |
| 14:00.22 | sylvanaar | you can use ACP for in-game management |
| 14:00.53 | sylvanaar | helps solve the typical issues |
| 14:01.08 | Elkano | sylvanaar: I use ModMenuTuFu ^^ |
| 14:01.30 | sylvanaar | Elkano i used to, but i wanted something with no dependancies |
| 14:02.01 | kenlyric | i wonder if the color grading in questfu got fixed. stupid maintenance! |
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| 14:03.01 | Elkano | kenlyric, according to the commit notes: yes |
| 14:04.13 | Amadeo | punchbuggy, no punch back |
| 14:04.48 | kenlyric | I'm the one that's stupid. I keep hitting View Changelog like it will do something, and then forget about it. |
| 14:05.10 | Amadeo | Why doesn't it work, anyway? |
| 14:05.52 | CIA-11 | 03anea * r32901 10SpamSentry/ (25 files in 4 dirs): |
| 14:05.52 | CIA-11 | SpamSentry: |
| 14:05.52 | CIA-11 | Version 20070417 |
| 14:05.52 | CIA-11 | - Updated some code to make multimessage spam detection work as intended |
| 14:05.52 | CIA-11 | - Updated filters |
| 14:05.53 | CIA-11 | - Updated localisations |
| 14:05.53 | kenlyric | well, when they went to xml changelogs it couldn't parse those. But I don't know why it can't open the .txt ones they have now. |
| 14:05.55 | CIA-11 | - Added a entry to the rightclick menu of the chatframe for reporting players violating naming policies |
| 14:06.12 | Amadeo | Yeah, I think it should...and if not, the option should go away |
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| 14:08.01 | kenlyric | so, I removed GridLayoutForHealers... and I have the same number of layouts. |
| 14:10.09 | pastamancer | you should have 4 fewer |
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| 14:11.26 | kenlyric | strange... the +tanks layouts are those? Maybe I didn't remove it like I thought. |
| 14:12.42 | kenlyric | had some fun in karazhan when someone got punished by being put in group 8... |
| 14:13.10 | kenlyric | it's now a much more useful punishment, because they don't get heals. |
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| 14:17.10 | Stephmw | group 8 is punishment? |
| 14:17.23 | Stephmw | why not just kick em and get a pug? |
| 14:19.01 | Dynom | fuck; starting WoW over a remote-desktop is just stupid |
| 14:19.03 | pastamancer | yeah, the tanks+ are from that |
| 14:19.09 | kenlyric | Dynom: yeah :) |
| 14:19.10 | Stephmw | Dynom: yup |
| 14:19.17 | kenlyric | or, playing video over rdp.. |
| 14:19.29 | Dynom | missclicked my editor >_< (yeah I know.. you shouldn't put work and pleasure next to eachother ^^ ) |
| 14:19.34 | Stephmw | Dynom: it's _almost_ usable over VNC and a xover cable ;) |
| 14:20.11 | Dynom | I just got a hard d3d err0r |
| 14:20.29 | Dynom | wanted to check if there was a patch allready, heard that someone was dling one |
| 14:20.56 | Dynom | already* |
| 14:21.02 | Punkie` | uh, you just said you misclicked :| |
| 14:21.04 | Punkie` | LIES DAMMIT |
| 14:21.59 | sylvanaar | what about registering the wow sounds in SML? they actually require a different type, i was thinking "wowsound" |
| 14:22.01 | deltron | -_- |
| 14:22.07 | Morghus | How did you extend the parsing distance for stuff like Recap and Damagemeters? |
| 14:22.17 | sylvanaar | cvar |
| 14:22.39 | Morghus | Please assume I'm an idiot ;) |
| 14:25.25 | Dynom | Punkie`: yeah but thats just the launcher |
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| 14:27.27 | Dynom | what a sucky quitline |
| 14:27.30 | pastamancer | Morghus: http://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php?p=228755&postcount=33 it's a bit old, but should still work |
| 14:27.36 | JJSheets | lol |
| 14:29.03 | Hjalte | Kemayo, just got this when fighting a mob in Terokkar Forrest http://ace.pastey.net/13336 |
| 14:29.56 | sedatedChipmunk | Morghus: you're an idiot |
| 14:30.45 | Morghus | sedatedChipmunk: That's not being assumptious :'( |
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| 14:33.06 | kenlyric | tuesday is the worst day for them to do maint, because it's always my slowest day. |
| 14:33.25 | kenlyric | monday would be perfect. I'm too busy on mondays anyway. |
| 14:33.29 | Morghus | pastamancer: Many many thanks! Got this otravi_Tweaks from a friend though. |
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| 14:36.08 | sedatedChipmunk | JJSheets: is that the turkish flag you're using for Expo's icon? |
| 14:36.43 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, it could be, but that's not what I based it off of. |
| 14:37.02 | JJSheets | I don't know what the turkish flag looks like. :) |
| 14:37.35 | JJSheets | Expo's Icon is essentially a crescent with a star in the center, forming an approximate E shape. |
| 14:37.51 | hyperChipmunk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey |
| 14:38.14 | Stephmw | JJSheets: that's a very good description of the turkish flag :) |
| 14:38.26 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 14:38.28 | JJSheets | Turkish flag's star isn't in the same place. |
| 14:38.29 | Amadeo | http://www.photographic-dreams.com/birds.php/pictures/turkey.jpg |
| 14:38.30 | JJSheets | :) |
| 14:38.40 | JJSheets | but it's close enough. :) |
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| 14:38.50 | kagaro | morning gents |
| 14:38.51 | hyperChipmunk | self-portrait, Amadeo? |
| 14:39.03 | JJSheets | and my star is four pointed, not five. :p |
| 14:39.07 | kagaro | has anyone been able to actually get the ptr client downloaded and running? |
| 14:39.12 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Yeah, I've been growing that beard for a while now |
| 14:39.17 | hyperChipmunk | running it right now |
| 14:39.34 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Wait, no! It's a picture of your pet :P |
| 14:39.39 | kagaro | hyper how is the new api changes looking for memory status? |
| 14:39.45 | deltron | neck |
| 14:39.47 | deltron | beard |
| 14:39.48 | deltron | . |
| 14:40.27 | hyperChipmunk | s'okay; needs some way to distinguish library code, though, even if we have to program it in manually |
| 14:41.14 | hyperChipmunk | right now, whatever is the first ace addon to load looks like a monster |
| 14:41.32 | kagaro | no clear way to distinguish i t? |
| 14:42.44 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, have you done much with Expo yet? |
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| 14:47.14 | CIA-11 | 03whitetooth * r32902 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 14:47.14 | CIA-11 | StatLogicLib: |
| 14:47.14 | CIA-11 | - Updated Taiwan localizations |
| 14:48.30 | CIA-11 | 03whitetooth * r32903 10RatingBuster/ (5 files): |
| 14:48.30 | CIA-11 | RatingBuster: 1.1.2 |
| 14:48.30 | CIA-11 | - Option to Display diff values in the main tooltip or only in compare tooltips for readability |
| 14:48.30 | CIA-11 | - Option to Ignore enchants and gems on items when calculating the stat summary |
| 14:48.30 | CIA-11 | - /rb sum ignore unused now shows all armor types they are use for druids, paladins and shamans |
| 14:48.30 | CIA-11 | - Updated Taiwan localizations |
| 14:48.34 | CIA-11 | - Code clean up |
| 14:49.08 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32904 10Aloft/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:49.08 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 14:49.08 | CIA-11 | - Modules can be tagged as data only, meaning that they are removed from the dependency tree if not required |
| 14:49.08 | CIA-11 | - Added AloftTag module |
| 14:49.08 | CIA-11 | - GuildText now uses the tagging module by modifying NameText.format, instead of hooking a group of functions |
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| 14:55.55 | Chompers | oooh! new ratingbuster |
| 14:56.03 | Fisker- | OLD NEWS OMFG |
| 14:56.09 | Fisker- | oh and y helo thar |
| 14:56.27 | Chompers | haro thar too |
| 14:59.24 | deltron | ooooh |
| 14:59.30 | deltron | you can try out tier 5 on PTR |
| 14:59.58 | Fisker- | old news! |
| 15:00.04 | Amadeo | how do you do that? |
| 15:00.05 | deltron | lol |
| 15:00.11 | vhaarr | yeah it's funny, because when I put it on, I actually lose healing, regen and intellect compared to my current gear. |
| 15:00.13 | deltron | talk to Johnny McWeaksauce |
| 15:00.15 | Fisker- | i type at the speed of light! |
| 15:00.16 | deltron | and get free tokens |
| 15:00.18 | kenlyric | vhaarr: priest? |
| 15:00.19 | Amadeo | where's he? |
| 15:00.19 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 15:00.21 | vhaarr | kenlyric: yes |
| 15:00.27 | kenlyric | yeah, me too. that gear sucks balls. |
| 15:00.28 | deltron | in shattrath |
| 15:00.37 | kenlyric | I lost 150 spirit. |
| 15:00.41 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 15:00.47 | kenlyric | wtf did I need 300 more healing for? |
| 15:00.53 | vhaarr | I lost healing as well |
| 15:00.55 | kenlyric | diaf, durid stat. |
| 15:00.56 | Fisker- | mana conserve! |
| 15:01.10 | kenlyric | Fisker-: yeah, cause downranking is so effective these days... |
| 15:01.17 | Chompers | prince tonight :X |
| 15:01.20 | Chompers | are we going to die? |
| 15:01.26 | kenlyric | I can increase efficiency by a whole .2! |
| 15:01.34 | kenlyric | Chompers: you might die a couple times. |
| 15:01.45 | Chompers | we gave up on aran :P |
| 15:01.47 | kenlyric | phase 2 spikes can take you by surprise the first couple times. |
| 15:01.55 | kenlyric | ug... then don't die on prince. |
| 15:02.05 | kenlyric | all that trash to reclear... yuck. |
| 15:03.37 | kenlyric | and, just fyi, don't run out of the door during a wipe :) |
| 15:03.57 | kenlyric | besides the fact that you won't be able to in 2.1, it can bug him out. |
| 15:05.12 | Fisker- | kenlyric just jump outside karazhan and walk up there |
| 15:05.16 | Chompers | fair enough, thanks for the info |
| 15:05.27 | Fisker- | no trash clear needed |
| 15:05.42 | Chompers | we wont kill anything tonight, but its something other than wiping on aran |
| 15:05.47 | kenlyric | Fisker-: what? |
| 15:05.57 | Amadeo | oh lame |
| 15:06.06 | Amadeo | you can't get anything from him unless you're Honored with The Violet Eye |
| 15:06.07 | kenlyric | chompers, you guys do the chess event already? |
| 15:06.09 | Fisker- | you can walljump over the tower and jump down in an instanced deadwind pass :D |
| 15:06.30 | Fisker- | From there you can ride into netherspace and up to malchezzar |
| 15:06.31 | kenlyric | hmmmm... I've tried to jump out of karazhan... where? |
| 15:06.44 | kenlyric | that also sounds like something blizzard wouldn't like :) |
| 15:06.55 | Fisker- | Back door, and a left out onto the globe thingy outdoors |
| 15:07.01 | Fisker- | just walljump the globe |
| 15:07.07 | evl | Postal doesn't include sending lots of items? |
| 15:07.19 | kenlyric | globe thingy? |
| 15:07.23 | kenlyric | now you're just making it up. |
| 15:07.26 | Fisker- | yeah roof-globe |
| 15:07.28 | Fisker- | or whatever |
| 15:07.36 | Fisker- | evl alt+click sends an item |
| 15:07.37 | Amadeo | Kind of a weird setup...give Tier 5 to the people who already have better gear, but keep it from people who don't...what kind of testing is that? lol |
| 15:07.39 | kenlyric | where you see nightbane get killed? |
| 15:07.43 | Fisker- | that's it "sends lots of items"-function |
| 15:07.47 | Fisker- | probably |
| 15:07.51 | Fisker- | haven't gone that far in the chain |
| 15:07.52 | vhaarr | Amadeo: Proper testing. |
| 15:07.59 | kenlyric | Amadeo: well, t5 with good sockets is pobably better gear. |
| 15:08.14 | kenlyric | but yeah, they give the gear to people who at least have an idea of what raiding is. |
| 15:08.20 | vhaarr | Amadeo: Giving T5 and Black Temple access to people without any knowledge is nonsense. |
| 15:08.26 | Amadeo | vhaarr: But the people already have better gear to begin with |
| 15:08.26 | vhaarr | right |
| 15:08.30 | vhaarr | Amadeo: Doesn't matter. |
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| 15:08.33 | kenlyric | like naxx all over again. |
| 15:08.38 | vhaarr | Amadeo: It's about getting feedback from idiots and the feedback that matters. |
| 15:09.10 | Amadeo | Those that can raid that stuff have better gear, so why would they give it out? If anyone gets it, wouldn't it be going to the wrong people anyway? |
| 15:09.33 | kenlyric | Amadeo: um... blizzard believes t5 is better than current gear. |
| 15:09.42 | Amadeo | Blizzard believes a lot of things :) |
| 15:10.41 | kenlyric | and, there are a lot of gem slots on that gear. |
| 15:10.41 | kenlyric | maybe they'll get a brain and sell some gems. |
| 15:10.41 | Amadeo | Well I see about 50 people at the Gem supply vendor |
| 15:10.42 | Amadeo | so they're being filled with crap gems |
| 15:10.42 | Amadeo | it's poor testing |
| 15:10.45 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 15:10.53 | Fisker- | i bought like 10 boxes and disenchanted it all |
| 15:11.05 | Fisker- | i'm gonna be rich when they start the PTR->realm transfer |
| 15:11.12 | kenlyric | remember when gear up was awesome? |
| 15:11.20 | Amadeo | I hate the whole socket thing |
| 15:11.31 | vhaarr | Fisker-: PTR->realm .. what? |
| 15:11.36 | kenlyric | blasphemy. |
| 15:11.39 | kenlyric | more sockets, please. |
| 15:11.50 | Fisker- | I want to copy my PTR char back yarr |
| 15:11.54 | vhaarr | lol |
| 15:12.58 | kenlyric | at least I'm not a shadow priest or a dps warrior. They really got the shaft. |
| 15:13.07 | kenlyric | all that warlock gear with its high stamina and crit... |
| 15:13.37 | Amadeo | I'm taking a screenshot for you |
| 15:13.53 | Amadeo | http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9772/socketloloi8.jpg |
| 15:13.56 | Amadeo | Quality Testing FTW? |
| 15:13.57 | Amadeo | lol |
| 15:14.54 | Amadeo | 90% of them are going to stand outside of town and duel |
| 15:15.52 | kovi | no shit, but at least they give the possibility to test it |
| 15:15.58 | kenlyric | I just wanted to see if t5 was as ugly in game as it is in screenshots. |
| 15:16.05 | Fisker- | He can be DPS Amadeo! |
| 15:16.09 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:16.12 | kovi | you think people who arent even honored with violet eye would go bt? |
| 15:16.13 | kenlyric | screw testing their broken shit for free. |
| 15:16.42 | Amadeo | kovi: Sure, just like in the old PTR with premades, people raided everything |
| 15:16.44 | kenlyric | raid testing is what Nihilum and Death and Taxes are for. |
| 15:16.56 | Amadeo | yeah, it's not like content won't get tested |
| 15:17.40 | Iceroth_ | anyone got a screenshot of the new engineering head pieces? |
| 15:17.43 | Amadeo | There are tons of guilds that will be raiding it, without upgrading their gear on vendors |
| 15:18.04 | Amadeo | those upgrading their gear are just as "clueless" as those who don't have The Violet Eye rep :) |
| 15:18.37 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r32905 10Links/Links.lua: |
| 15:18.38 | CIA-11 | Links : |
| 15:18.38 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.03 | sbu | hm |
| 15:19.12 | sbu | wtb that priest waist + boots |
| 15:19.16 | sbu | long road stuff |
| 15:20.18 | hyperChipmunk | where are people getting all this t5 stuff on PTR? i wanna play too |
| 15:20.30 | Amadeo | Blizzard does a pretty good job with PvE stuff, they really need to work on PvP |
| 15:20.42 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: You get it from a vendor at A'dal in Shatt. |
| 15:21.04 | Thrae | Amadeo: Eye of the Storm is a HUGE improvement, but yeah they need more. |
| 15:21.19 | Thrae | They need to seriously revamp the old PvP Battlegrounds |
| 15:21.28 | Amadeo | I feel like WoW's population is dying or something, because you're hard pressed to find a server with rapid queue times now days |
| 15:21.36 | Amadeo | ESPECIALLY for pre-70 |
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| 15:21.56 | hyperChipmunk | 10 more felsteel bars and only 1 skill again =( |
| 15:22.01 | hyperChipmunk | er, felsteel stabilizers |
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| 15:22.30 | Thrae | Amadeo: PvP servers have a little better queue times |
| 15:22.31 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah I agree, Eye of the Storm is fun, but I'm not a fan of waiting 30 minutes in an AV queue because nobody plays the others anymore |
| 15:22.40 | Amadeo | I dunno, I play on only PvP :) |
| 15:22.47 | Iceroth_ | eots is boring |
| 15:22.50 | Thrae | AV sucks hard, that's why |
| 15:22.59 | Amadeo | Yeah, but if you want to upgrade certain things, you're forced into it |
| 15:23.02 | Amadeo | So... |
| 15:23.07 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ need honored kharazan faction |
| 15:23.15 | Morghus | everyone jumps on the BG that has a weekend here on AD :) |
| 15:23.23 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96000445&sid=1 <-- :/ |
| 15:23.30 | Morghus | Otherwise you see dustballs and cricket sounds :p |
| 15:23.33 | Fisker- | Choose your next words wisely deltron |
| 15:23.44 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:23.49 | Amadeo | Tseric says healing/dps |
| 15:23.58 | Amadeo | How many Resto Shamans do DPS on raids? |
| 15:24.03 | Fisker- | <- |
| 15:24.12 | Thrae | The fix to AV and WSG are simple -- AB and EoTS are popular because they have an inherent timer built into them. AV and WSG battles can last minutes or years. |
| 15:24.28 | deltron | I never dps'd when I was rest |
| 15:24.33 | deltron | resto* |
| 15:24.45 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah, based on the players...some want to be assholes and hold the flag forever, especially if it's a premade or twink team |
| 15:24.50 | Fisker- | I never had a shaman |
| 15:24.58 | Amadeo | Thrae: Then you're punished if you want to leave |
| 15:24.59 | Fisker- | But i dps in resto anyways |
| 15:25.28 | deltron | I can toss lightning bolts in resto and do decent dps, but then I'm wasting mana that should be going to healing |
| 15:25.42 | Amadeo | I enjoy pre-70 PvP the most, usually above level 19 so there are less twinks |
| 15:25.58 | Amadeo | but the higher you go without reaching 70, the less PvP you find |
| 15:26.08 | xyu` | 29 isn't bad |
| 15:26.16 | Amadeo | yeah...that's a twink bracket too |
| 15:26.30 | Thrae | Amadeo: I'm stuck at Level 59 because I'm scared of all the people with raid gear ;) |
| 15:26.30 | xyu` | then get a twink :P |
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| 15:26.44 | Amadeo | Nah, I'm not gonna waste the gold :P |
| 15:26.53 | xyu` | What else do you have to buy? |
| 15:26.55 | Thrae | Twinking is one of the things that also needs work in PvP |
| 15:27.08 | xyu` | Primal * is a waste of gold, * = anything |
| 15:27.08 | Amadeo | I have a lot of chars, so, epic flying mounts etc :P: |
| 15:27.19 | xyu` | yes, but why do you want an epic flying mount |
| 15:27.21 | xyu` | when everything is instanced :P |
| 15:27.28 | Amadeo | I don't really care much for PvE |
| 15:27.33 | xyu` | it just means you're the first to the summoning stone. |
| 15:27.35 | xyu` | ah |
| 15:27.42 | xyu` | so flying mount = world pvp ganking only? |
| 15:27.53 | xyu` | i agree though |
| 15:27.55 | xyu` | that's the only use of it |
| 15:28.05 | Amadeo | that, doing lots of old quests, being bored and doing other things |
| 15:28.06 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:28.21 | Iceroth_ | epix mount for farming = win |
| 15:28.22 | xyu` | my priest has a flying mount, i like to go into netherstorm |
| 15:28.28 | xyu` | and pick some slow flyer |
| 15:28.32 | xyu` | and land on manaforges dotting him to hell |
| 15:28.35 | xyu` | and following him around |
| 15:28.57 | Amadeo | it's just really strange how servers seem so barren these days |
| 15:29.10 | Amadeo | I really think a lot of people are quitting/have quit |
| 15:29.11 | xyu` | flying mounts have ruined pvp imo. :/ |
| 15:29.12 | CIA-11 | 03pneumatus * r32906 10ClassLoot/ (ClassLoot.toc ClassLoot_Data.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 15:29.12 | CIA-11 | ClassLoot: |
| 15:29.12 | CIA-11 | - Update to include 3 new BC instances! |
| 15:29.14 | Thrae | New MMORPGs are popping up like hotcakes too. |
| 15:29.33 | Amadeo | I guess PvE and RP servers are still booming though |
| 15:29.41 | kenlyric | I tried LotRo again. That thing is an abomination. |
| 15:29.43 | xyu` | Yeah but i'm not a fan of this new insurgance of mmos. I want something to have a monopoly ; ; |
| 15:29.53 | xyu` | i hate empty servers |
| 15:29.56 | xyu` | more than anything |
| 15:29.58 | xyu` | in an mmo |
| 15:30.09 | Amadeo | Blizzard made far too many servers, I don't know what they were thinking |
| 15:30.30 | Amadeo | The more servers they make, the worse the population balance will be |
| 15:30.30 | kenlyric | they need to combine a bunch of servers. |
| 15:30.39 | Thrae | Battlegroups are suppose to fix that problem |
| 15:30.39 | Amadeo | Yeah, and even if they have to limit faction to faction transfers |
| 15:30.40 | xyu` | yes they do |
| 15:30.45 | Thrae | Make the Battlegroups bigger |
| 15:30.47 | xyu` | I miss the days of queues actually |
| 15:30.51 | kenlyric | and non of this namby-pampy volunteer crap. Just merge two fo them together. |
| 15:30.54 | xyu` | I <3 queues |
| 15:30.58 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah, but there's more to the game than PvP...some servers have like 5 level 70 Warriors and stuff |
| 15:31.05 | Iceroth_ | oh, about the pvp, why the %¤#% can't they make ally vs ally bgs? queues are just fubar in my battle group for example |
| 15:31.23 | the_squid | arena? :P |
| 15:31.25 | xyu` | on my 2nd server it was the same. 40 minute ab queues |
| 15:31.28 | Iceroth_ | doesn't give honor |
| 15:31.35 | the_squid | arena? |
| 15:31.40 | xyu` | (primetime) |
| 15:31.59 | kenlyric | if a server has under 10k people, it should automatically merge. |
| 15:32.02 | Amadeo | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=39 |
| 15:32.05 | Amadeo | Look how sad that server is |
| 15:32.10 | Amadeo | Blizzard ruins their own game |
| 15:32.17 | shieldb | kenlyric, would you refer to that feature as "the blob" ? ;) |
| 15:32.44 | Amadeo | and that's a 2004 server |
| 15:32.49 | Amadeo | plenty of time to establish |
| 15:33.28 | xyu` | I actually liked having to fight for quest mobs. |
| 15:33.31 | xyu` | even w/ my own faction |
| 15:33.39 | kenlyric | yeah, empty servers suck. |
| 15:33.39 | xyu` | like on TBC release day. |
| 15:33.48 | xyu` | i like love that. mostly because i'm a griefer |
| 15:33.48 | kenlyric | might as well play oblivion |
| 15:33.53 | xyu` | and i'll steal mobs/nodes/ wuteva |
| 15:33.57 | xyu` | i'm nice in party though |
| 15:34.02 | kenlyric | xyu`: nothing made me happier than getting shadow word: death :) |
| 15:34.08 | kenlyric | finally, I can steal tags from hunters! |
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| 15:34.20 | xyu` | haha, yeah |
| 15:34.21 | the_squid | i was having fun on my server for ages |
| 15:34.26 | xyu` | i'm a mage , been doing it forever. |
| 15:34.27 | Amadeo | kenlyric: Yeah, but next patch, you watch, Blizzard will open NEW servers |
| 15:34.30 | the_squid | there was a bot farming burning steppes for dragon scales |
| 15:34.40 | the_squid | if i tagged the thing at just the right moment it killed it for me |
| 15:34.46 | xyu` | i did that too |
| 15:34.50 | xyu` | some bot plvld me |
| 15:34.55 | the_squid | yep |
| 15:35.05 | kenlyric | well, my server is fine. Plenty populated. |
| 15:35.06 | xyu` | as long as the mob is green to the player, you get full XP |
| 15:35.08 | xyu` | for the kill |
| 15:35.14 | kenlyric | and honestly, it doesn't much matter beyond my server. |
| 15:35.32 | Amadeo | if you're PvE, you're probably safe |
| 15:35.36 | Amadeo | if it's PvP, it will die someday |
| 15:35.49 | kenlyric | I mean, it kinda doesn't matter how many subscribers an mmo has... as long as they keep them bunched together, what does it matter? |
| 15:35.52 | xyu` | my server has a large population, but they just offered free xfers and it kind of ruined it. |
| 15:35.59 | Amadeo | yep |
| 15:36.01 | xyu` | exactly |
| 15:36.02 | Thrae | Amadeo: All people in this world are selfish to some degree, it's part of animal nature to think about one's self first. World of Warcraft is an entertainment we play to have, so it's easy to feel entitled to certain perks. |
| 15:36.02 | kenlyric | wow has 8 million, another might have 25k. It'll still look the same. |
| 15:36.02 | Amadeo | once a transfer opens, it's over |
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| 15:36.33 | Amadeo | Thrae: You mean new servers? I imagine Blizzard does it because it keeps people interested and paying...but they don't think about those on dead realms |
| 15:36.39 | Thrae | Amadeo: New servers allow easy notority gained by people who level the quickest, or are the best grouper, or make the best guild. |
| 15:36.39 | Amadeo | eh |
| 15:36.47 | Amadeo | 8 million was a long time ago, I doubt it's anywhere near that high now |
| 15:36.58 | kenlyric | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php?sort=Total awww, we moved into third. |
| 15:37.02 | shieldb | kenlyric, eve online has their entire playerbase on one server, but it's a pretty different game ;) |
| 15:37.14 | Thrae | Amadeo: Well Blizzard has to make the best cost-effective decision. |
| 15:37.18 | kenlyric | still number on in alliance populaton! |
| 15:37.27 | kenlyric | *one |
| 15:38.05 | the_squid | 12,994 (62%)7,873 (38%)1.9:120,867 |
| 15:38.15 | the_squid | no wonder we have every world pvp thing |
| 15:38.16 | the_squid | all the time |
| 15:38.21 | Amadeo | I imagine Americans and Europeans will abandon World of Warcraft earlier on, and the rest of the WoW population will probably remain stable |
| 15:38.21 | Thrae | Amadeo: If they don't make some decisions like this, their MMORPG will die like all the others who cater too far to players. You need to give them time to mine the proper data. |
| 15:38.29 | deltron | my server is #22 |
| 15:38.30 | deltron | heh |
| 15:38.47 | Amadeo | Thrae: I would combine servers or allow faction-to-faction transfers, get things nice and balanced, and then begin to open new servers |
| 15:39.03 | deltron | wow our alliance to horde ratio is crazy now, it's only 1.4:1 |
| 15:39.15 | kenlyric | that's pretty good. |
| 15:39.23 | deltron | it used to be 3:1 |
| 15:39.29 | kenlyric | I actually found a levelling guild on horde side to play around with now that I'm bored with raidingg. |
| 15:39.43 | Gngsk | you making a horde on kargath? |
| 15:39.43 | kenlyric | pretty shocking on a near-release server with a heavy alliance ratio. |
| 15:39.44 | Thrae | Blood Elf HAS solved a lot of the Horde problem ;) |
| 15:39.47 | deltron | we have had many transfers off of my server though, it's crazy |
| 15:39.57 | Scre3m | wow won't die until a better game comes along, to my knowledge there is no game even close |
| 15:40.21 | Stephmw | problem is... with every big patch, Blizz changes the game |
| 15:40.23 | deltron | Scre3m: warhammer! |
| 15:40.30 | deltron | wow = waiting on warhammer |
| 15:40.32 | deltron | lol |
| 15:40.39 | Stephmw | it's a far cry to what it was in beta, or even on release |
| 15:40.45 | Scre3m | u think warhammer will be better than wow? why? |
| 15:40.47 | kenlyric | someone explain to me how warhammer is any different. |
| 15:40.53 | kenlyric | omg, my beard grows! |
| 15:41.12 | deltron | the priests are melee |
| 15:41.16 | deltron | and wear plate :D |
| 15:41.42 | kenlyric | deltron: you mean they're paladins? |
| 15:41.45 | Thrae | kenlyric: It's made by Mythic, who have shown with DAoC they are awesome when it comes to PvP. Now they just need to get PvE right. |
| 15:41.45 | Scre3m | plate for priests is a plus for sure |
| 15:41.57 | deltron | heh nope |
| 15:42.03 | kenlyric | Thrae: um. that doesn't do much for me, since I hate pvp. |
| 15:42.07 | shieldb | kenlyric, they're clerics from everquest! |
| 15:42.15 | Scre3m | i'd don't like the pvp at all |
| 15:42.17 | Amadeo | Thrae: PvE sucked in DAoC, lol |
| 15:42.21 | Amadeo | It was so easy |
| 15:42.25 | deltron | http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/gameInfo/gameOverview/ |
| 15:42.27 | kenlyric | shieldb: egads! that's not an endorsement! |
| 15:42.30 | Amadeo | I really liked DAoC though |
| 15:42.32 | Thrae | Amadeo: Which is why I said they need to get it right in Warhammer ;) |
| 15:42.40 | Amadeo | The PvP was a lot of fun |
| 15:43.07 | Scre3m | vastly disappointed with vanguard and lotr-o so far |
| 15:43.12 | Thrae | kenlyric: Yeah, but DAoC was made before WoW. Now that Mythic has WoW's success to draw on, they should be able to drastically improve their PvE model. |
| 15:43.20 | Amadeo | lol, Vanguard was terrible...Brad McQuaid is a moron |
| 15:43.25 | deltron | Scre3m: I hear you on vanguard, that game had so much potential |
| 15:43.26 | Scre3m | yeah |
| 15:43.34 | Thrae | kenlyric: Might as well, WoW stole many PvP ideas from DAoC ;) |
| 15:43.40 | Amadeo | Yep |
| 15:43.43 | deltron | but god dammit, why does it have to look so pretty? I would rather have a game that is playable |
| 15:44.03 | kenlyric | lotro is just the worst fuckup I've ever seen. |
| 15:44.08 | Scre3m | i think one of the biggest flaws with WoW is the fact that you can solo from 1-70, thus building 0 team-playing ability |
| 15:44.13 | deltron | Aion looks awesome also |
| 15:44.20 | kenlyric | they went for a more realistic look than WoW, and ended up with a bigger cartoon than WoW |
| 15:44.21 | deltron | Aion has in-air combat :D |
| 15:44.48 | Scre3m | link for aion? |
| 15:44.48 | Thrae | Scre3m: Actually I think that was a selling point. |
| 15:44.57 | deltron | sec |
| 15:45.01 | kenlyric | Scre3m: that's the selling point for most of us :) |
| 15:45.03 | Scre3m | thrae, i know, but .. |
| 15:45.06 | deltron | http://www.plaync.com/us/games/aion/ |
| 15:45.11 | deltron | check out the aion videos |
| 15:45.13 | deltron | it's insane |
| 15:45.32 | Scre3m | will do |
| 15:45.51 | kenlyric | the game quickly gets useless if I constantly have to worry about finding other people to do stuff. |
| 15:45.51 | Scre3m | the BC end-game requires very organized groups imo |
| 15:46.01 | Thrae | I don't find getting a group in WoW to be that difficult, and now WoW has Heroic mode dungeons and more instances which can range from easy to way hard |
| 15:46.12 | deltron | BC end-game is all about one person not messing up, or you wipe |
| 15:46.18 | Amadeo | I'm not an NCSoft fan |
| 15:46.20 | kenlyric | BC end game is completely screwed up, design-wise. |
| 15:46.26 | kenlyric | 10 man filter for a 25 man raid is dumb. |
| 15:46.29 | deltron | I loved Anarchy Online |
| 15:46.33 | Scre3m | kenlyric, yeah, i'm not having fun with it at all |
| 15:46.49 | Scre3m | 10 man filter? |
| 15:46.50 | deltron | I'm getting nerfed |
| 15:46.56 | kenlyric | that's why I quit. The only intersting group content in TBC was escape from durnholde. |
| 15:46.56 | Scre3m | what class delt/ |
| 15:47.12 | Scre3m | the Caverns of Time has soooo much potential |
| 15:47.15 | kenlyric | Scre3m: karazhan. |
| 15:47.28 | Scre3m | u mean Kara should be 25 man content? |
| 15:47.30 | kenlyric | I'm hot to try out hyjal, but meh, no way I'm going there any time soon. |
| 15:47.34 | Scre3m | i don't follow you |
| 15:47.41 | kenlyric | I mean, it shouldn't be a filter for real raid content. |
| 15:47.52 | kenlyric | it fucks up guild dynamics. |
| 15:47.55 | shieldb | does johnny not hand out hyjal keys? |
| 15:47.56 | Scre3m | also, the gear in Kara seems to be ... not too hot |
| 15:48.02 | Scre3m | ah yes, i agree with that completely |
| 15:48.05 | shieldb | on the ptr, I mean |
| 15:48.06 | kenlyric | shieldb: no mention of hyjal on ptr. |
| 15:48.12 | Roartindon | it's the fact that you have to push multiple 10 man groups |
| 15:48.31 | Roartindon | which means that people will certainly miss out on 25 mans if you get 3x10 |
| 15:48.33 | kenlyric | Roartindon: if you can even field them. |
| 15:48.34 | Scre3m | yup yup, and the zone saving makes it so that u have to stick with one group |
| 15:48.40 | [Ammo] | well once you've got to the point that everyone has killed nightbane it's better |
| 15:48.44 | [Ammo] | then you can just leave kara |
| 15:48.46 | [Ammo] | and run maybe 1 group |
| 15:48.50 | [Ammo] | that does it in a one nighter |
| 15:49.04 | kenlyric | yes, I know how karazhan works :) |
| 15:49.08 | kenlyric | I'm saying it's bad design. |
| 15:49.16 | Roartindon | Ammo: And have fun with 45 minute respawns in SSC instead? :) |
| 15:49.20 | kenlyric | but, I guess technically, UBRS was a filter for MC... |
| 15:49.23 | shieldb | Roartindon, 2h now ;) |
| 15:49.26 | shieldb | gogo hotfixes |
| 15:49.26 | kenlyric | errr, BWL |
| 15:49.30 | [Ammo] | 2h in 2.1 |
| 15:49.56 | deltron | Scre3m: i'm a shaman |
| 15:50.03 | shieldb | [Ammo], http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94849717&sid=1 |
| 15:50.10 | kenlyric | I love karazhan... I'd love running 10 man raids with the kind of group I run with now... but it all ends at karazhan, so you ahve to get ready for 25 man anyway. |
| 15:50.14 | shieldb | "we're going to hotfix the base creature respawn in Serpentshrine and TK Raid to be 2 hours" |
| 15:50.27 | deltron | trash in karazhan suuuuuuuuucks |
| 15:50.41 | Scre3m | trash in karazham ruins the fun |
| 15:50.42 | Roartindon | "Skeletal Ushers in KZ can be shackled"?? |
| 15:50.43 | kenlyric | deltron... have you hit exalted yet? |
| 15:50.51 | deltron | not yet, getting there though |
| 15:50.53 | Scre3m | 10k from exalted, im priest |
| 15:50.54 | kenlyric | Roartindon: that will have to wait for the patch. |
| 15:50.56 | Roartindon | wow, that completely nerfs those 2 pulls |
| 15:51.04 | kenlyric | deltron: the trash in karazhan gets 97% more annoyin when you are exalted. |
| 15:51.13 | Scre3m | i'm sure it does lol |
| 15:51.14 | deltron | I'm sure :P |
| 15:51.15 | kenlyric | because then it's completely useless to you. |
| 15:51.49 | kenlyric | I just don't understand why aran, who is one of the hardest bosses in there, also has to have the most trash. |
| 15:51.50 | shieldb | what was the blizzard pr line on trash the one time? something like "non-boss creature encounters" or somesuch |
| 15:52.09 | deltron | yeah I hate aran |
| 15:52.13 | deltron | we can't get past him :( |
| 15:52.15 | Roartindon | eequally interesting, but non-boss non-epic dropping encounters |
| 15:52.17 | Roartindon | something like that |
| 15:52.31 | kenlyric | BWL was the best design imo. |
| 15:52.35 | Scre3m | we're stucj at maiden atm |
| 15:52.38 | Roartindon | Naxx imho :) |
| 15:52.46 | Roartindon | I really thought Naxx was excellently built |
| 15:52.47 | kenlyric | Scre3m: get a paladin for easysauce. |
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| 15:53.00 | Scre3m | our first pally started last night |
| 15:53.03 | kenlyric | yeah, but naxx had trash tied to killing bosses. I just hate that. |
| 15:53.09 | Scre3m | def seemed to help |
| 15:53.11 | deltron | paladin or two makes maiden cake, and make sure your shaman drop their grounding totems |
| 15:53.37 | shieldb | kenlyric, yeah but all the trash was on longer respawns for the most part, and you could rez in the bosses room |
| 15:53.39 | Scre3m | ty del, ken |
| 15:53.45 | NeoTron | so anyone have experience with Magtheridon? |
| 15:53.53 | Roartindon | kenlyric: hmm... never really noticed it like I noticed trash in TBC... as in, there was never a "Shit, we can't be fucked' in naxx compared to TBC |
| 15:53.55 | shieldb | NeoTron, killed him this week, what's up? |
| 15:54.17 | NeoTron | just our next goal in progression as we got gruul down |
| 15:54.20 | NeoTron | and cleared kara |
| 15:54.41 | NeoTron | never actually been there yet |
| 15:54.45 | shieldb | ahh |
| 15:54.49 | NeoTron | curious how hard it is relative to Gruul |
| 15:55.00 | deltron | mag is touch |
| 15:55.04 | deltron | tough* |
| 15:55.12 | shieldb | easy in concept but hard to execute properly |
| 15:55.45 | deltron | hmm I'm halfway to exalted with violet eye |
| 15:55.46 | kenlyric | I don't mind at all trash respawning on undefeated bosses, after the raid leaves. |
| 15:55.55 | shieldb | you kill five adds that get stronger every time one dies, then kill magtheridon |
| 15:55.59 | kenlyric | Like the ghosts by the side door, who are tied to curator. |
| 15:56.18 | deltron | those ghosts are lame |
| 15:56.19 | shieldb | and then five people have to click a box at the same time when he casts blast nova to stop him from wiping the raid with that |
| 15:56.22 | kenlyric | all trash should work just like that, unless its guantlet trash. |
| 15:56.23 | deltron | their aggro radius is insane |
| 15:56.54 | kenlyric | I happen to love guantlet trash. |
| 15:57.05 | kovi | i think warcraftrealms is somewhat broken |
| 15:57.14 | kovi | only shows 700 alliance on my server, ok?! |
| 15:57.19 | kovi | hm |
| 15:57.24 | kovi | nice, i was scrolled up |
| 15:57.25 | kovi | <3 |
| 15:57.28 | deltron | lol |
| 15:57.37 | shieldb | gauntlet trash can be ok if it isn't a huge pain to clear, like the AQ bug tunnel |
| 15:57.40 | Roartindon | kenlyric: The only time we noticed respawn in Naxx was between Anub and Faer.. and after we did that one week, we never saw respawns again... Kara, on the other hand... |
| 15:57.41 | NeoTron | so you click one box or each person clicks one out of 5 boxes? (that the channelers used?) |
| 15:57.53 | sylvanaar | is it interface 21000 or 20100 |
| 15:58.00 | shieldb | one person clicks each box (channels on it like a summoning portal) |
| 15:58.09 | kenlyric | the three guantlets I can think of I liked them all. |
| 15:58.16 | NeoTron | is it correct that each add has about 240k HP? |
| 15:58.23 | shieldb | and then you get a mind exhaustion debuff a la netherspite, so you need two box teams |
| 15:58.23 | kenlyric | shattered halls, suppression room, fankriss tunnel. |
| 15:58.30 | shieldb | yep, 240-250k each |
| 15:58.34 | Roartindon | ken: Gothik? |
| 15:58.45 | Roartindon | I didn't like the gothik gauntlet :) |
| 15:58.46 | kenlyric | I only ever saw the instructor. |
| 15:58.48 | mikebro | gauntlets suck to learn ;[ |
| 15:58.50 | NeoTron | kenlyric: they are all easy if you actually take your time rather than rush through :P |
| 15:58.50 | deltron | suppression room was fun |
| 15:58.58 | deltron | I really miss BWL |
| 15:58.59 | kenlyric | and only to have his students break my MC continuously. |
| 15:59.03 | shieldb | heigan gauntlet was kinda annoying |
| 15:59.12 | deltron | I never go to naxx :( |
| 15:59.13 | NeoTron | I think the only reason people feel like they are hard is because they run in way too hurriedly. |
| 15:59.16 | Roartindon | err.. heigan I meant |
| 15:59.17 | kenlyric | 99% hit my ass. |
| 15:59.21 | Roartindon | damn, so long since I've been in naxx :) |
| 15:59.32 | deltron | bbl lunch |
| 15:59.34 | NeoTron | never been in naxx with my lock |
| 15:59.39 | NeoTron | in fact I'm not even attuned |
| 15:59.48 | NeoTron | nor is he attuned to MC, BWL or Onyxia. |
| 15:59.55 | shieldb | I felt like the heigan gauntlet was there so that his encounter wouldn't be too fun to spend time on |
| 16:00.05 | kenlyric | once attempt on instructor I wore my full +hit gear. I knew it didn't help... but.. had to try something. |
| 16:00.19 | NeoTron | kenlyric: distance is the key |
| 16:00.37 | NeoTron | if the add gets just a little bit too far away it breaks really easily |
| 16:00.47 | kenlyric | meh, broken MC breaking calculations is the key. |
| 16:00.52 | kenlyric | yeah, they've fixed that since then. |
| 16:01.01 | NeoTron | I loved MCing that fight (was shadow spec at the time) |
| 16:01.06 | kenlyric | but that wasn't the issue here.. he wass tanding very very close to me. |
| 16:01.16 | Roartindon | hmm.. we had problems first week, but one or two shot it every week after for almost 5 months |
| 16:01.18 | NeoTron | at a time when no other priest had any +spell hit gear too |
| 16:01.22 | kovi | the most annoying thing about heigan trash was, that there was no safezone infront of him |
| 16:01.23 | kenlyric | we had a shadow priest and me do it. |
| 16:01.26 | Roartindon | Though I'm not a priest, and have nfi what they were doing |
| 16:01.37 | kovi | so you couldn't heal up without getting constant respawns |
| 16:01.40 | kenlyric | same... I was the holy priest who got the job because I had +hit gear. |
| 16:01.46 | NeoTron | if you think about attunem trash... that's annoying |
| 16:02.06 | NeoTron | I mean it's super easy once you do it, both boss and trash, but when you wipe from stupid mistakes (a patrol here, a bad fear there) |
| 16:02.10 | kenlyric | we had time to go to naxx once before 1.12 destroyed raiding. |
| 16:02.17 | NeoTron | and you pull the boss and the respawns add for the first time.. |
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| 16:02.43 | NeoTron | I think overall though, the only really annoying kara trash is pre-curator and pre-aran |
| 16:02.52 | NeoTron | those stupid melee only fish suck so bad |
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| 16:03.04 | shieldb | pre-curator gauntlet isn't so bad imo |
| 16:03.05 | kenlyric | pre curator isn't so bad. |
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| 16:03.13 | kenlyric | it's not very much trash. |
| 16:03.17 | NeoTron | it's not horrible but it's a fast respawn |
| 16:03.20 | kenlyric | pre aran is just a LOT of mobs. |
| 16:03.32 | NeoTron | again when learning curator, it's pretty bad. when curator is farm, no big deal |
| 16:03.32 | kenlyric | curator is 2 hours, isn't it? |
| 16:03.32 | shieldb | you clear his trash relatively quickly, get a few attempts in on an extremely easy boss, then clear the trash again |
| 16:03.39 | NeoTron | post-curator is always annoying but slow respawn |
| 16:03.41 | Roartindon | cuator is 45 minutes |
| 16:03.42 | shieldb | you shouldn't really have to learn curator |
| 16:03.45 | Roartindon | post curator is 2 hours |
| 16:03.53 | shieldb | the fight is so simple |
| 16:03.59 | shieldb | it's just a gear check, mainly |
| 16:04.09 | NeoTron | it might be but doesn't mean people don't have issues with it :P |
| 16:04.12 | kenlyric | it's a dps check. |
| 16:04.19 | NeoTron | now we take him down right after the second evocation |
| 16:04.21 | kenlyric | like, if you're dps are dumb, it's going to be hard. |
| 16:04.21 | Roartindon | shieldb: It's simple, but having led 3 groups through there now, I've seen how badly it hit our weakest group |
| 16:04.26 | kenlyric | *your |
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| 16:04.49 | NeoTron | I found the key to the fight is to minimize movement for melee, which means standing closer together |
| 16:04.50 | Roartindon | shieldb: Our 3rd group wiped on him 4 or 5 times before the kill... and later inthe night, 2 shot prince (first time that most had seen the fight) |
| 16:04.52 | NeoTron | while not being too close |
| 16:04.58 | kenlyric | man, I'd wet myself taking down curator after second evocation. |
| 16:05.02 | kenlyric | I'd have mana for enrage! |
| 16:05.15 | NeoTron | kenlyric: hint: keep 2.5-3.5 DPS on curator at all times |
| 16:05.19 | Roartindon | kenlyric: There's a video of a one-evocation curator kill |
| 16:05.23 | kenlyric | NeoTron: if your range dps is good enough, you just put the melee on curator. |
| 16:05.26 | NeoTron | preferably a shadow priest and a warlock, plus hunter/mage when not needed for adds |
| 16:05.45 | NeoTron | ah, but melee dps are good at bursty damage |
| 16:05.46 | kenlyric | so then they never have to move. |
| 16:05.51 | NeoTron | shadow priest/aff lock are not |
| 16:05.57 | Amadeo | is wow-loot.com still the best class loot site? |
| 16:05.58 | kenlyric | mages are. |
| 16:06.01 | NeoTron | mages yes |
| 16:06.12 | NeoTron | that's why I keep thiem primarily on adds |
| 16:06.24 | kenlyric | being able to actual target the mob and start dps on it right away would help :) |
| 16:06.24 | NeoTron | hunters can do adds unless they are in melee range in which case they do curator |
| 16:06.33 | [Ammo] | a welltimed curse of doom on curator is the bomb |
| 16:06.40 | [Ammo] | so it goes off during weaken ;p |
| 16:06.41 | Roartindon | ammo: Yeah :) |
| 16:06.50 | kenlyric | we usually bring two, but they are frequently not well timed |
| 16:06.57 | NeoTron | but I saw one "slow kill" movie and saw rogues spending maybe 5+ seconds running to each target |
| 16:07.00 | Kemayo | kenlyric: I fixed the gradients in QuestsFu. |
| 16:07.10 | NeoTron | because they spread out too much |
| 16:07.13 | Kemayo | (You were wondering out loud earlier, so...) |
| 16:07.15 | kenlyric | Kemayo: I saw that! thanks. will check it out if I get a server. |
| 16:07.26 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: I need to get amplify curse + CoD working.. :p |
| 16:08.11 | kenlyric | focus fire has always been a problem for us. Same exact issue on Fankriss. any fight that spawns dynamic adds. |
| 16:08.31 | NeoTron | heh |
| 16:09.19 | NeoTron | a guild I was in before only managed to focus fire correctly on core hound packs |
| 16:09.19 | NeoTron | where, of course, you don't want to focus fire |
| 16:09.19 | NeoTron | go figure |
| 16:09.19 | kenlyric | lol; |
| 16:09.20 | moonsorrow | hm... is the combat text moved in pitbull with a reason? or is this a bug? |
| 16:09.20 | kenlyric | core hound packs are a lot of fun if you do them wrong. |
| 16:09.33 | NeoTron | remember some later MC runs (ez-farm mode) where they first of all were killed badly (but still worked due to really good dps) and secondly, a new pack was pulled before the first one was gone |
| 16:09.35 | kenlyric | We had one pack where we went through three or four rez cycles. |
| 16:09.38 | shieldb | NeoTron, designate a main assist and have everyone else set up a "/assist so-and-so" macro? |
| 16:09.40 | kenlyric | that was actually fun. |
| 16:09.41 | NeoTron | whee 8 core hounds >:-) |
| 16:09.53 | [Ammo] | moonsorrow: I moved it intentionally |
| 16:09.56 | NeoTron | actually didn't wipe. that's back when gear actually progressed |
| 16:10.06 | [Ammo] | could make a layout option for it but haven't bothered yet |
| 16:10.08 | Stephmw | NeoTron: I've never done MC... spread fire on the hounds like on the tigers for the tigerboss in ZG? |
| 16:10.23 | NeoTron | shieldb: I find with the raid icons + main tank windows a dedicated assist isn't needed anymore |
| 16:10.39 | NeoTron | Stephmw: basically if you don't kill them all, thye will reignite (res up) |
| 16:10.46 | shieldb | Stephmw, they need to die within 10 seconds of the first one dying, like romeo and juliette or the tiger boss / two priests |
| 16:10.46 | NeoTron | so yeha you have to spread dps rather evenly |
| 16:11.05 | kenlyric | I sometimes wonder if I dislike raiding or the fact that i'm trying to advance with deadweights on me. |
| 16:11.06 | shieldb | or thaddius phase1 |
| 16:11.21 | kenlyric | because talking about it gets me riled up, and then I do it and want to cry and kill my dog. |
| 16:11.49 | NeoTron | kenlyric: my guild just got a new guild rank system implemented where the deadweights will have their own lower-priority rank |
| 16:12.08 | kenlyric | that'd be nice, but six of us can't run karazhan :) |
| 16:12.20 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r32910 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: |
| 16:12.20 | CIA-11 | SilverDragon: |
| 16:12.20 | CIA-11 | - Add a check to make sure that region exists on 268. (I mean, it really should. Something really weird has to be happening for it not to. But since Hjalte managed to record said weirdness happening, well...) |
| 16:12.49 | kenlyric | and, deadweights would get raider status anyway, since they raid. |
| 16:12.51 | shieldb | we still have a designated assist, we just don't hammer on people to make sure they have macros and such set up |
| 16:12.59 | kenlyric | They just aren't very good. |
| 16:13.25 | [Ammo] | we usually have a set kill order for raidicons |
| 16:13.25 | shieldb | that way folks who have difficulty with assisting for whatever reason have a solution for it |
| 16:13.25 | [Ammo] | skull blue square orange etc |
| 16:13.42 | kenlyric | I'm BLUE SQUARE! |
| 16:13.56 | shieldb | I think 75% of the people don't bother with assist macros but it's there if people want to use it |
| 16:13.58 | kenlyric | or moon, depending on the raid leader. |
| 16:14.26 | sylvanaar | they should have an option where those are numbers instead |
| 16:14.45 | shieldb | [Ammo], yeah we do the same thing, rainbow order (red -> orange -> yellow -> green -> blue -> purple) |
| 16:14.56 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: you could probably do it by dropping in a numbers-texture into the game? |
| 16:14.58 | kenlyric | I think we do whatever order they're in the game. |
| 16:15.13 | kenlyric | skull, cross, etc etc. |
| 16:15.20 | sylvanaar | or your assist could have a macro that changes skull to whatever hes targeting |
| 16:16.09 | shieldb | I found that doesn't work very well if skull is replacing an existing icon |
| 16:16.26 | Stephmw | my 4-man also uses the raid icons for instancing... it simply removes a little uncertainty |
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| 16:16.41 | kenlyric | my issue is that there's no middle ground... you either have people who don't focus enough on raiding, or people who do it 5 nights a week for 5 hours a night. |
| 16:17.01 | Roartindon | kenlyric: Our guild raids twice a week.. fri and sat... |
| 16:17.03 | sylvanaar | only bad part is that every group has a different meaning for the symbols except skull |
| 16:17.14 | Roartindon | Have 3 groups that have killed prince in kara |
| 16:17.25 | pastamancer | I've been in groups that didn't use skull for "kill this first" :( |
| 16:17.27 | Roartindon | I wouldn't have time to code Aloft if we raided 5 times a week :) |
| 16:17.30 | Stephmw | sylvanaar: aye, we always go through a quick intro when we pick up a 5th |
| 16:17.40 | kenlyric | skull is for undead to shackle, tbh..' |
| 16:17.58 | kenlyric | Roartindon: yes, but is your guild focused? |
| 16:18.00 | NeoTron | kenlyric: get a few more good ppl? :P |
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| 16:18.08 | Roartindon | kenlyric: reasponably |
| 16:18.11 | kenlyric | to they spend half the raid goofing off, or talking about their crits during boss fights? |
| 16:18.12 | Stephmw | green triangle for kill target, red cross for sheep target, moon crescent for sleep target... etc |
| 16:18.17 | sylvanaar | im a deadweight player |
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| 16:18.31 | kenlyric | NeoTron, meh, recruiting is a nightmare right now. We always get goddamn pvp people. |
| 16:18.50 | shieldb | pvp people are fine so long as they'll spec pve when it's raid time |
| 16:19.01 | NeoTron | I know a rogue that respecs twice a week |
| 16:19.07 | NeoTron | pvp for non-raid days, pve for raid days |
| 16:19.10 | shieldb | half our guild respecs twice a week |
| 16:19.11 | kenlyric | no, becaus they constantly have to talk about the damage they're doing. |
| 16:19.31 | Stephmw | now, that's too serious for my taste - I like adjusting the encounters to fit us, rather than the other way around |
| 16:19.59 | shieldb | all our offnights from raiding are in a block so folks can respec for a few days at a time |
| 16:20.15 | Roartindon | respseccing is relatively cheap now in TBC |
| 16:20.22 | Roartindon | Where cash is worth about 1/4 of what it used to be |
| 16:21.15 | kenlyric | so glad I don't have an reason to respec. |
| 16:21.49 | sylvanaar | people talking about the damage they do presses other peoples buttons too |
| 16:22.04 | shieldb | Stephmw, true enough here |
| 16:22.04 | CIA-11 | 03whitetooth * r32911 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 16:22.04 | CIA-11 | StatLogicLib: |
| 16:22.04 | CIA-11 | - Updated Taiwan localizations |
| 16:22.10 | sbu | ~seen nymbia |
| 16:22.31 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-138-197.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 41m 55s ago, saying: 'if just using the actual name doesnt work, we'll give em numbers or something'. |
| 16:22.31 | kenlyric | I'm a dedicated raider, not a heavy raider. I'd be happy to do it 2 or 3 nights a week, for three or four hours, if I knew it was going to be dedicate focused time. |
| 16:22.31 | Stephmw | shieldb: in here, aye... but it's worth the tips I guess :) |
| 16:22.31 | kenlyric | not lolhappyhour with boss fights. |
| 16:22.39 | shieldb | lolhappyhour is trash time ;) |
| 16:22.42 | Stephmw | shieldb: getting ready to join a casual guild... maybe a raid a week... if that |
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| 16:22.53 | kenlyric | shieldb: until they wipe on trash because they're being dumb. |
| 16:23.22 | shieldb | a wipe every so often on trash isn't so bad, though |
| 16:23.40 | kenlyric | plus the fact that all that chatter can get pretty distracting for those of us that have to kinda concentrate on more than just pewpewing the current raid target. |
| 16:24.06 | FISKER_Q | i pew pew the boss with my holy shock |
| 16:24.08 | shieldb | my kara group last week oneshot every boss in the instance including the optional bosses, but we wiped like 4-5 times on trash ;) |
| 16:24.08 | FISKER_Q | then my tank dies |
| 16:24.15 | Roartindon | I think we're one of hte very very few naxx raiding guilds that didn't use vent...... |
| 16:24.20 | kenlyric | shieldb: that's fine :) |
| 16:24.25 | FISKER_Q | that's exploiting |
| 16:24.25 | Chompers | you dont use vent ? |
| 16:24.27 | Chompers | :O |
| 16:24.37 | FISKER_Q | no way any of you can oneshot a boss |
| 16:24.38 | Roartindon | We didnt use vent for MC, BWL, AQ40 or naxx... |
| 16:24.47 | Roartindon | or any of kara |
| 16:24.51 | sylvanaar | lol the ptr is giving me 'validating version' |
| 16:24.56 | shieldb | FISKER_Q, see, you start by getting rampage to proc... |
| 16:24.56 | Chompers | "oh i say, the boss is killing me, may i have some help?" |
| 16:25.08 | Chompers | by the time you've said that everyones wiped and you're running back |
| 16:25.08 | FISKER_Q | doesn't work anymore shieldb :P |
| 16:25.25 | kenlyric | I need vent for audio clues to the 15 things i have to keep track of. |
| 16:25.27 | shieldb | yeah, though that was an interesting interpretation of oneshot you chose to focus on ;) |
| 16:26.10 | kenlyric | but not for someone to discuss strategy while the fight is going on, which is what all the dps do. Fucking dps! |
| 16:26.23 | shieldb | more dots! |
| 16:26.29 | shieldb | that's the only strategy you should ever need |
| 16:26.52 | CIA-11 | 03ominous * r32912 10FuBar_DruidTimerFu/Locals/enUS.lua: FuBar_DruidTimerFu: fixed bug in translations |
| 16:28.53 | kenlyric | wtb compentent guild, pst. |
| 16:28.57 | kenlyric | wtb spell checker, pst |
| 16:32.59 | FISKER_Q | omgomgomg |
| 16:33.02 | FISKER_Q | Aeus suggests prat |
| 16:33.03 | FISKER_Q | :O |
| 16:33.21 | dotted | lol i was just about to say that |
| 16:33.41 | dotted | He is an Ace2 zealot /like likes Aeus |
| 16:35.02 | vhaarr | where? |
| 16:35.34 | FISKER_Q | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=279227987&sid=1 |
| 16:36.15 | vhaarr | niec |
| 16:36.16 | vhaarr | nice* |
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| 16:40.39 | sbu | eh Fisker-, mining done? :p |
| 16:40.50 | Fisker- | :O? |
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| 16:42.23 | sylvanaar | lol |
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| 16:44.55 | sylvanaar | kenlyric dps have it easy |
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| 16:45.39 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm sure I already mentioned Aeus was an Ace guy, but I think you all ignored me :( |
| 16:45.53 | sylvanaar | =( |
| 16:46.56 | dotted | Kirkburn|afk but you only do sigs :( |
| 16:47.04 | dotted | QQ |
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| 16:47.46 | sylvanaar | attention span , |
| 16:47.58 | sylvanaar | |.| |
| 16:48.24 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32913 10Aloft/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:48.24 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 16:48.24 | CIA-11 | - ClassData now exports its tag. |
| 16:48.24 | CIA-11 | - ShortGuildData now makes some extra letters lowercase in the middle of guild name abbreviations |
| 16:48.57 | Fisker- | hi sylvanaar |
| 16:49.13 | sylvanaar | hi hi |
| 16:49.35 | art3mis | so klets say i fergot to log myself out at home and i wander to the office, while my login there boot the othe player? |
| 16:50.37 | kenlyric | yes |
| 16:50.38 | art3mis | ahh okay good |
| 16:50.39 | kenlyric | but, blizz gets suspecious of that, so be careful. |
| 16:51.02 | art3mis | oh i dont mean an all the time thing, just if i rush outta here and ferget to logoff |
| 16:51.13 | art3mis | if im screwed from logging at work ;P |
| 16:52.45 | deltron | anyone pick up the new tolkien book? |
| 16:53.26 | kenlyric | children of hurin? |
| 16:53.34 | deltron | yup |
| 16:53.39 | kenlyric | not yet. |
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| 16:53.59 | kenlyric | I don't expect it to be too terribly different from the one in UT. |
| 16:54.06 | kenlyric | but I'll buy it of course. |
| 16:54.18 | hyperChipmunk | "There Are No Dwarves in Heaven"? |
| 16:55.02 | Punkie` | Roartindon: YOU BROKE ALOFT DAMMIT! :( |
| 16:55.11 | Roartindon | how so? |
| 16:55.20 | Punkie` | sometimes if someone casts |
| 16:55.30 | Punkie` | the blizzard cast "border" shows too :o |
| 16:55.31 | kenlyric | i'm on the tolkien mailing list with wayne hammond, so I get all the early dirty on tolkien releases. |
| 16:55.34 | Roartindon | punkie: update |
| 16:55.35 | Punkie` | also! |
| 16:55.38 | Punkie` | :D |
| 16:55.45 | Punkie` | what about guild names? :D |
| 16:55.54 | Roartindon | you may need to reselect the option |
| 16:55.55 | Roartindon | to have it show |
| 16:55.58 | Punkie` | ok |
| 16:55.59 | Punkie` | i love you |
| 16:56.10 | Roartindon | the entire datapath has changed, you'll see hints of it under Name Text -> Advanced |
| 16:56.19 | Punkie` | aha |
| 16:56.35 | Punkie` | does it still use prat-style database? |
| 16:56.39 | Roartindon | r32907 or later for the cast bar overlay |
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| 16:57.09 | Roartindon | umm.. prat-style? it's just a collection of data, yes :) |
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| 16:57.55 | Punkie` | yeah, but prat turns into like, almost 2 meg of savedvariables which isn't very nice :( |
| 16:58.33 | Roartindon | you can turn it off in aloft->data options |
| 16:58.47 | Punkie` | damn |
| 16:58.50 | Punkie` | you rock |
| 16:59.00 | Punkie` | can you add a button |
| 16:59.05 | Punkie` | nuke old database |
| 16:59.11 | sbu | Fisker-: armory data? |
| 16:59.15 | sbu | dataminer.lua? |
| 16:59.15 | sbu | :) |
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| 16:59.41 | Roartindon | Punkie: If you don't have it saved, it'll be auto-nuked on next logout/login |
| 17:00.11 | Punkie` | beautiful |
| 17:00.15 | Fisker- | nah sbu |
| 17:00.33 | Fisker- | Because the place i live have hueg faggots my internet is repeatedly crashing |
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| 17:00.49 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 17:00.51 | Fisker- | they're screwing with the electricity |
| 17:01.02 | Fisker- | so i'm getting disconnected each 5-30 minutes |
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| 17:01.27 | dotted | Fisker- when did you get unbanned for zeh forums |
| 17:01.29 | dotted | ? |
| 17:01.32 | Pneu | anyone know of an alternative to HoB_DKP that has been updated to work with BC stats? |
| 17:01.37 | Fisker- | 100 years ago |
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| 17:02.14 | dotted | failiure at blizz imo |
| 17:02.23 | Fisker- | not at all |
| 17:03.54 | sbu | WTF |
| 17:03.57 | sbu | server shutdown in 15 min |
| 17:04.10 | CIA-11 | 03whitetooth * r32914 10RatingBuster/ (About RatingBuster.txt RatingBuster.lua): |
| 17:04.10 | CIA-11 | RatingBuster: 1.1.3 |
| 17:04.10 | CIA-11 | - Fixed EQCompare, tekKompare support |
| 17:04.10 | CIA-11 | - Updated Taiwan localizations |
| 17:04.26 | Roartindon | I should see whether ckknight is interested in modifying DogTag at all to use an approach similar to Aloft's :) |
| 17:05.46 | sbu | just modify - he will revert if it is not okay ;o |
| 17:05.58 | Roartindon | heh, I don't know it well enough to touch it |
| 17:06.11 | Roartindon | Aloft's tag system is a compiler.. you give it a tag.. and it converts it to a compiled function |
| 17:06.27 | Roartindon | So that there's no string splitting/interpreting/etc happening after its setup |
| 17:07.46 | CIA-11 | 03mcc * r32915 10Detox/locals_zhTW.lua: |
| 17:07.46 | CIA-11 | Detox: |
| 17:07.47 | CIA-11 | missing translation ["Play sound"] for Chinese Traditional |
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| 17:08.29 | Kemayo | Roartindon: If aloft is going to meddle with GetRegions, could you meddle with GetNumRegions as well? :) |
| 17:08.47 | Roartindon | Kemayo: Ah yes, didn't even think of it :) |
| 17:08.51 | Roartindon | I'll do that now |
| 17:09.00 | sbu | server reboot ftl :/ |
| 17:09.20 | Roartindon | kemayo: Which addon have I broken? :) |
| 17:09.29 | Kemayo | SilverDragon. |
| 17:11.08 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32916 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: |
| 17:11.08 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 17:11.09 | CIA-11 | - Now provides GetNumRegions and GetNumChildren |
| 17:11.10 | Roartindon | Give that a shot |
| 17:11.18 | Roartindon | oh shit |
| 17:11.19 | Roartindon | wait a sec |
| 17:12.12 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32917 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: typo.. |
| 17:12.33 | Kemayo | I'm at work, so I won't know whether that helps for a while. :) |
| 17:12.36 | Roartindon | okay, give *that* one a shot :) |
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| 17:12.39 | Roartindon | ah okay |
| 17:13.04 | Elkano | the funny thing is that it didn't error right away but only after some time... strange stuff... |
| 17:16.09 | Roartindon | In order to get backgrounds/borders displaying in Aloft, I really had to dick with the nameplates quite badly |
| 17:16.38 | sylvanaar | Punkie` quit badmouthing prat - its all configurable as to what data it keeps none, some, lots |
| 17:16.38 | Roartindon | As soon as border/backdrop features are enabled, the actual nameplate ends up with 0 regions and only 1 child |
| 17:17.07 | Elkano | your version ^^ |
| 17:17.52 | Roartindon | Elkano: Well, I intercept GetRegions/GetChildren to return the expected frames |
| 17:18.19 | Roartindon | So that other addons still continue to work |
| 17:19.01 | Elkano | but wrt strange bugs, I still have 2 in EBBs :/ buffs that also have a group version (like Mark/Gift of the Wild) somehow all end up with the group versions maxtime eg 1hr and I have reports of bars that have full screen width which I can't explain by code :/ |
| 17:19.01 | Arrowmaster | ohh interesting http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=276788003&sid=1 |
| 17:19.22 | sbu | oh |
| 17:19.44 | sbu | wtb png |
| 17:19.50 | Arrowmaster | same |
| 17:20.06 | Roartindon | heh.. mac has had png/jpg/tiff since... 1.04 or something :) |
| 17:20.24 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 17:20.26 | Fisker- | fucking fail |
| 17:20.29 | Elkano | well, mac has the libs to do so |
| 17:20.50 | Gnarfoz | windows, too |
| 17:20.52 | Elkano | wtb mind reading layout for Pitbull :/ |
| 17:21.03 | Gnarfoz | the intel jpeg library has been sitting in WoW's directory like... forever |
| 17:21.20 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 17:21.30 | snurre- | lol, pitbull scale is pretty weird.. every single time i log in it has a different scale |
| 17:21.34 | Arrowmaster | need to figure out how to get wow to load a png library if it doesnt already have one |
| 17:22.26 | xyu` | i want to use aloft but i never really got used to name plates. |
| 17:22.58 | Silviu- | I never used nameplates |
| 17:23.06 | xyu` | me either, but i can see its uses |
| 17:23.06 | Silviu- | they anoy me too many things on screen :)) |
| 17:23.08 | xyu` | in arena |
| 17:23.08 | Arrowmaster | wtf where did BigWigs_GruulAssist go |
| 17:23.13 | Roartindon | There are some fights where nameplates really help... |
| 17:23.17 | Roartindon | Gruul was one |
| 17:23.34 | Silviu- | Gruul hmm .. |
| 17:23.40 | Silviu- | I stay behind that wall .. |
| 17:23.42 | xyu` | I can't think of how PvE would help over Grid |
| 17:23.43 | xyu` | or something |
| 17:23.44 | Silviu- | I don`t need there ^^ |
| 17:23.48 | sbu | hmm gruul nameplates? why? |
| 17:23.51 | Fisker- | holy shit i'm going to win |
| 17:23.55 | sbu | is nameplate rage = 15y? |
| 17:23.56 | sbu | range |
| 17:24.05 | Roartindon | it's so you can see where all the people nearby are |
| 17:24.18 | sbu | hmm btw |
| 17:24.26 | snurre- | is there a way to set pitbull raid frame spacing to like 2 or so? |
| 17:24.28 | sbu | is the nameplate display range customizable? |
| 17:24.32 | kenlyric | does aloft keep the nameplates from jumping around all will-nilly? |
| 17:24.32 | sbu | or fixed value? |
| 17:24.32 | snurre- | 5 is too much, 0 is too little :/ |
| 17:24.41 | kenlyric | I find nameplates useless for that reason. |
| 17:24.43 | Silviu- | Just do run SetCVar("cameraDistanceMaxFactor", 4); |
| 17:24.43 | xyu` | in the lua maybe |
| 17:24.46 | Roartindon | sbu: I wish I knew.. there was an option in the default interface for nameplate range in TBC beta |
| 17:24.46 | Silviu- | And u see :) |
| 17:24.55 | Roartindon | and I'm hoping someone will figure out how to change it still |
| 17:25.19 | xyu` | i'd still like nameplates to see that low HP mage running behind a pillar to bandage :D |
| 17:25.21 | Fisker- | anyone remember the itemdata link on the armory? |
| 17:25.27 | xyu` | sometimes i forget to look up at arena master (sometimes = always) |
| 17:25.31 | Roartindon | kenlyric: It reduces it, because you can adjust how 'big' nameplate frames are.. and being smaller means less room for jumping |
| 17:25.34 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: It's included in BW now. |
| 17:25.41 | Arrowmaster | yeah i was just noticing that |
| 17:27.18 | Arrowmaster | maiden needs to use it now with maybe the 10yd checkinteractdistance check |
| 17:28.01 | Gnarfoz | Roartindon: saw any reports of something like this happening with the castbar? http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/aloft/aloft_bug_castbar_bg.jpg |
| 17:28.32 | Roartindon | Gnarfoz: fixed a couple of hours ago in r32907 |
| 17:28.36 | Gnarfoz | woot :D |
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| 17:28.49 | Roartindon | or should be anyway :) |
| 17:29.03 | Hjalte | Is anyone here experiencing that the nameplate switcher in Automaton only seems to switch nameplates ON in combat, but not off when the fight ends? |
| 17:29.06 | Gnarfoz | and if that's not already in (you keep adding and improving stuff at a pace I can't mentally keep up with ;D - such a great addon ;)): Is it possible to color the "frame" background by hostility? |
| 17:29.11 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 17:29.21 | Fisker- | did blizzard fix so you can't use http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml anymore? |
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| 17:29.27 | Gnarfoz | like this (For friendly): http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/aloft/aloft_frame_friendly.jpg |
| 17:29.39 | Gnarfoz | (hostile: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/aloft/aloft_frame_hostile.jpg) |
| 17:30.06 | Roartindon | hmm, yeah, I can add that in :) |
| 17:30.08 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: doesnt look like it |
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| 17:30.28 | Fisker- | you can use it? |
| 17:30.41 | hugo | hi |
| 17:30.42 | Roartindon | raid frames - Is that PitBull? |
| 17:31.04 | Gnarfoz | mine? yeah, pitbull |
| 17:31.11 | Roartindon | does it have raid layout options now? |
| 17:31.15 | Roartindon | or did you setup all those frames one by one? |
| 17:31.23 | Gnarfoz | raid dummy configuration mode |
| 17:31.39 | Gnarfoz | so, yes, it has a feature like that now |
| 17:31.50 | Gnarfoz | http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/ui_2.0.12_raid.jpg < |
| 17:32.07 | Roartindon | you have lots of screenshots :) |
| 17:32.40 | Gnarfoz | nah, just some for sinister purposes ;D |
| 17:32.54 | hugo | i just need the enemycast bar to be invisible and undocket from the frame ;o |
| 17:32.58 | hugo | then it would be perfect] |
| 17:32.58 | Fisker- | fail Gnarfoz |
| 17:33.05 | Fisker- | i liked you |
| 17:33.07 | Fisker- | but now i hate you |
| 17:33.08 | Fisker- | > |
| 17:33.11 | Gnarfoz | hahaha |
| 17:33.11 | Fisker- | >:( |
| 17:33.12 | hugo | invisible if noting is cast |
| 17:33.24 | Gnarfoz | I even posted it with the wrong character first, deleted the post and reposted it ;D |
| 17:35.01 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: to soothe you, have a look at this nice female human paladin, wearing elemental rockridge leggins: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/arsch.jpg |
| 17:35.19 | Gnarfoz | nevermind the UI there, that screenshot is old |
| 17:35.51 | Fisker- | better than your current shit |
| 17:35.55 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 17:36.16 | Gnarfoz | back from my warlock days :< good times ^^ |
| 17:37.36 | Gnarfoz | now, off to do my epic mount quest, YAY |
| 17:37.49 | Roartindon | What font is that on your nameplates btw? |
| 17:37.51 | Gnarfoz | stupid 5 stratholme water that are soulbound... everything else I've already got |
| 17:38.16 | Gnarfoz | Roartindon: the name text above the plate? or the health text on the plate? |
| 17:38.36 | Roartindon | name |
| 17:38.55 | Gnarfoz | name text is Calibri_v1 from ClearFont (global replacement for all wow fonts through \Fonts dir, I just selected FritzQuadrata in Aloft) |
| 17:39.14 | Gnarfoz | (the rest is obviously Arial Narrow with thin outline, the default) |
| 17:39.18 | sbu | haha Gnarfoz - your raid is offline |
| 17:39.28 | sbu | you lose |
| 17:39.30 | sbu | :/ |
| 17:39.37 | Gnarfoz | sbu: yeah I miss them |
| 17:39.39 | Gnarfoz | constantly |
| 17:39.42 | Gnarfoz | they're always gone :< |
| 17:40.01 | Gnarfoz | actually, that paladin shall be the cornerstone of my very own raid guild, come level 70 |
| 17:40.35 | Roartindon | Hmm.. I'm going to make a ton of options for nameplate background color/frame.. and an option to use simple settings :) |
| 17:40.43 | Gnarfoz | It'll be called "Shades of Blue" and only Draenei will be allowed in! ingame-racist raid guild xD |
| 17:40.45 | Roartindon | But that'll have to wait until another day, 3am here and I'm tired |
| 17:41.14 | Gnarfoz | we'll miss out on rogues and warlocks, though :< perhaps blue-skinned night elves can be allowed in as rogues xD |
| 17:41.50 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz, did you tweak the frame or what did you use to make your aloft look like it does on the friendly picture? |
| 17:42.07 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: on code changing, if you mean that. |
| 17:42.09 | Gnarfoz | *no |
| 17:42.43 | Gnarfoz | I set the frame height to double the health bar size, set Y offset of the health bar to -1x the health bar height (11px?) |
| 17:43.00 | Gnarfoz | frame background color is white at 20% alpha or something like that |
| 17:43.10 | Gnarfoz | and the name text sits inside the frame :) |
| 17:43.11 | Hjalte | I'll try with what you just told me :) |
| 17:43.23 | Gnarfoz | makes it look like one big nameplate ^_^ |
| 17:43.46 | Gnarfoz | if it had debuffs, I could ditch my target frame ;D |
| 17:44.20 | Chompers | wish msbt updated more often :/ |
| 17:44.42 | knarf- | wish msbt had some more funky movement methods :P |
| 17:45.05 | evl | Hmms. would be really nice if Chronometer could adjust duration of CC according to PVP/PVE |
| 17:45.09 | Chompers | it lacks the number of options most ace addons have |
| 17:45.12 | sbu | worldserver down |
| 17:45.15 | sbu | instance still running |
| 17:45.16 | sbu | *sigh* |
| 17:45.28 | Gnarfoz | happens all the time |
| 17:47.39 | kenlyric | cause instances are instance servers, not world servers :) |
| 17:47.46 | CIA-11 | 03anea * r32918 10SpamSentry/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:47.46 | CIA-11 | SpamSentry: |
| 17:47.46 | CIA-11 | - Typo in German translation. |
| 17:47.46 | CIA-11 | - Made ticketframe moveable. |
| 17:47.46 | CIA-11 | - Added option for single player tickets. |
| 17:51.23 | Hjalte | anea, are you in here? |
| 17:52.00 | Anea | I'm here hjalte =) |
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| 17:52.09 | CIA-11 | 03pneumatus * r32919 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot.lua: |
| 17:52.09 | CIA-11 | ClassLoot: |
| 17:52.09 | CIA-11 | - Fix to make sure we only read from the InstanceLoot sets |
| 17:52.19 | sbu | hmmm |
| 17:52.27 | sbu | wtb alchemy spec proc counter :o |
| 17:52.39 | Hjalte | With SpamSentry, once I've sent the ticket, if i get a new gold-whisper, is there anyway to add it to the pending ticket? |
| 17:52.44 | Phatrik | hmmm PitBull with Buu layout is a bit wierd atm |
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| 17:53.10 | Phatrik | the health and mana values are getting like random vertical alignment |
| 17:53.15 | knarf- | Also annoying when you already reported 1, and he whispers you again :< |
| 17:53.49 | markv | jesus why did they change the abrahams shoulder graphics to dreadnaught in the ptr |
| 17:54.18 | Anea | Yep it is annoying I agree. But currently there is no such option. I would have to parse the contents of the ticket to see if it was a ticket of your own, or one made by spamsentry. Would be pretty nasty to program. |
| 17:56.47 | [Ammo] | if the ticket was made by spam sentry then it would contain a certain string I presume? |
| 17:57.23 | Anea | In theory yes, but ppl are free to alter the tickettext |
| 17:57.44 | [Ammo] | but if they alter it it's still stored right? |
| 17:57.48 | [Ammo] | so you know what they altered |
| 17:57.48 | xyu` | i hate wow's auction house it's terrible :/ |
| 17:58.26 | Fisker- | Bibi`ouF !!! |
| 17:59.01 | Bibi`ouF | Fisker- !!!! |
| 17:59.22 | Anea | i could cache the tickettexts, true... would solve one part of the problem. mmm... but then i'd have to cache the ppl on the reportlist to make sure the format doesn't go foo. |
| 18:00.16 | Anea | gruul incoming =) I promise to have a look at it |
| 18:01.29 | [Ammo] | I am not a SpamSentry user, just suggesting ideas :) |
| 18:01.40 | xyu` | how do i farm for greater eternal essences :( |
| 18:01.55 | xyu` | er Nether |
| 18:03.09 | Fisker- | http://worldofraids.free.fr/2.1.0/BT/potions-vendor.jpg <-hahahaha |
| 18:04.13 | winkiller | lol |
| 18:05.24 | deltron | hmm can you really buy flasks? |
| 18:05.31 | shieldb | on the ptr, yes |
| 18:05.32 | hyperChipmunk | for focus testing |
| 18:05.40 | deltron | oh bummer |
| 18:05.42 | deltron | lol |
| 18:06.15 | Fisker- | look at the names |
| 18:06.15 | sbu | is it hard to write some alechemy proc monitor addon? |
| 18:06.15 | shieldb | johnny mcweaksauce hands out black temple keys and a box with full tier5 sets in it |
| 18:06.15 | Fisker- | "Flask of pretty good power" |
| 18:06.17 | Loki|muh | shieldb: where is he located? |
| 18:06.17 | sbu | to see how many potions you got out of x potions you wanted to craft |
| 18:06.20 | hyperChipmunk | more pew pew. less QQ |
| 18:06.21 | deltron | yeah i saw johnny |
| 18:06.31 | Fisker- | exactly hyperChipmunk |
| 18:06.33 | hyperChipmunk | that's my favorite |
| 18:06.39 | knarf- | The Sarge Bullet "More pew pew, less qq" |
| 18:06.41 | knarf- | :p |
| 18:06.58 | evl | lol |
| 18:07.22 | hyperChipmunk | free soul shards and water too |
| 18:07.28 | shieldb | Loki|muh, he's in shattrath |
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| 18:07.56 | shieldb | he ports you to the black temple as well |
| 18:08.27 | shieldb | http://worldofraids.free.fr/2.1.0/BT/BTvendor2.jpg |
| 18:08.55 | deltron | how much are the vials for pots in 2.1? |
| 18:10.37 | Arrowmaster | blizzard is evil |
| 18:10.44 | Arrowmaster | they put soulshards on that vendor |
| 18:11.49 | Fisker- | of course |
| 18:11.56 | NeoTron | heh. /cry |
| 18:12.48 | NeoTron | so since it's for testing... why even charge a fee? |
| 18:15.04 | kenlyric | what fee? |
| 18:15.18 | hyperChipmunk | it's just that those items have a sell price |
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| 18:15.31 | hyperChipmunk | they don't set item prices per-vendor |
| 18:15.54 | hyperChipmunk | they probably copied over normal items and renamed 'em |
| 18:16.03 | hyperChipmunk | the shards and water don't have a sell price to begin with |
| 18:16.07 | kenlyric | I must be missing something. |
| 18:16.11 | Kemayo | Yeah, if you want money for them, just grab some t5 boxes and vendor 'em. :D |
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| 18:16.17 | kenlyric | the gear they give you has a sell price. |
| 18:16.24 | kenlyric | you can just keep getting gear and selling it. |
| 18:16.38 | hyperChipmunk | to what end? |
| 18:16.45 | hyperChipmunk | to get phat moneyz on test? |
| 18:17.10 | hyperChipmunk | money for nuthin', and the epix for free |
| 18:17.23 | shieldb | I wonder if gold selling sites that also buy gold are stupid enough to purchase gold from folks on the test server |
| 18:17.32 | kenlyric | isn't that the point of ptr? |
| 18:17.40 | winkiller | lol |
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| 18:24.16 | Matrix110 | vhaarr? |
| 18:24.39 | vhaarr | hi |
| 18:24.45 | Matrix110 | hi |
| 18:24.52 | Matrix110 | got a question about NRT |
| 18:25.07 | vhaarr | fire away |
| 18:25.11 | Matrix110 | would it be possible to store a small comment for every item? or is that not intended? |
| 18:25.25 | winkiller | what's NRT? |
| 18:25.29 | Matrix110 | raid tracker |
| 18:25.34 | winkiller | ah |
| 18:25.35 | vhaarr | Matrix110: "item"? |
| 18:25.48 | Matrix110 | Well if someone loots something from a Boss |
| 18:25.51 | vhaarr | ah |
| 18:25.57 | Matrix110 | that you can store a simple comment |
| 18:26.02 | vhaarr | it stores who it was looted from already? |
| 18:26.02 | Matrix110 | like the number of DKP:P |
| 18:26.07 | Matrix110 | yes |
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| 18:27.53 | Matrix110 | Because then i could track totally ingame and wouldnt need to note down the number of DKP used for that item |
| 18:28.47 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 18:29.06 | Matrix110 | if you dont want it its ok:P |
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| 18:31.35 | Leialyn | anyone got a link to an utf-8 lua converter? I had one but its not working anymore |
| 18:32.11 | vhaarr | Matrix110: give me some ideas on how to implement it |
| 18:32.37 | vhaarr | Matrix110: if you come up with something that is so unobtrusive that almost noone will even notice it, then maybe I will add it |
| 18:32.57 | Matrix110 | ok let me think a sec:P |
| 18:34.29 | Matrix110 | well after the item is looted NRT stores the item into a table i guess? You could simply add a new data to it with Comment that you can edit with clicking on it then a simple box pops up with Comment: [Insert comment here] and a ok Button or by pressing enter it get stored |
| 18:34.32 | kenlyric | omg! this is aces http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96054119&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 18:35.27 | Matrix110 | The not unobstrusive method would be a popup after the item is looted for a comment that you can disable |
| 18:35.50 | Matrix110 | or that is standardly disabled |
| 18:36.34 | Leialyn | vhaarr: are all BigWigs messages with self:Message broadcasted through raidwarning if only text and color is set? Or how do I write broadcast messages? |
| 18:40.04 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: /me points up to way earlier - passValue does get passed to set and get .. atleast in PitBull it works, and it works here too on all other functions. |
| 18:40.16 | vhaarr | Leialyn: they are broadcasted by default if only text is set |
| 18:40.24 | Leialyn | ok |
| 18:40.30 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: okay, talk to ckk about it |
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| 18:41.35 | nevcairiel | i saw it in the pitbull Aura module, and stole the idea :) |
| 18:41.53 | vhaarr | then pitbulls slash commands would be broken as well |
| 18:42.01 | vhaarr | maybe dewdrops implementation is bad, I don't know |
| 18:42.04 | vhaarr | too be honest |
| 18:42.12 | vhaarr | there are so many bugs in AceConsole right now that I want to stop using it |
| 18:42.26 | vhaarr | if they're not fixed within the week I will rewrite a custom thing for bigwigs |
| 18:42.27 | nevcairiel | dewdrop works fine |
| 18:42.31 | nevcairiel | only when using slash it breaks |
| 18:42.36 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 18:42.38 | vhaarr | like I said |
| 18:42.42 | vhaarr | aceconsole |
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| 18:50.56 | hyperChipmunk | why not fix aceconsole? |
| 18:51.53 | vhaarr | because it's soup to me |
| 18:52.00 | vhaarr | I'd fix it if I could |
| 18:52.26 | vhaarr | of course, if it had just a few lines of docs here and there, it would've been a lot easier |
| 18:52.42 | nevcairiel | like all libraries :) |
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| 18:52.50 | Kemayo | I feel silly benchmarking lua stuff. Mainly because I have to run the functions I'm benchmarking somewhere in the 100,000 - 1,000,000 times range to get execution times long enough to be worth considering. |
| 18:53.05 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yeah but it only applies to AceConsole and Dewdrop, really. |
| 18:53.11 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I can understand the others |
| 18:54.05 | nevcairiel | honestly, i dont really comment my code either, but i force myself if its important enough |
| 18:54.09 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: gimme a list of problems, and i'll see what i can do; i've got some familiarity with it, since I had to implement tabb completion |
| 18:54.17 | nevcairiel | i didnt write anythign "comment worthy" for wow yet tho :P |
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| 18:54.29 | Kemayo | And, sure, I wind up halving the execution time... but that represents 0.4 seconds over 100,000 calls. |
| 18:54.30 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: exactly |
| 18:54.37 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: alright, making dinner now so after dinner |
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| 18:55.16 | hyperChipmunk | sure thing |
| 18:55.56 | hyperChipmunk | Kemayo: witchcraft looked like it could use some optimization |
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| 18:57.14 | hyperChipmunk | it takes an exorbitant amount of CPU time for what it needs to do, even when it isn't doing anything |
| 18:57.30 | nevcairiel | i really need to profile bt3, someone said it used alot |
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| 18:59.36 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r32920 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:59.36 | CIA-11 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 18:59.36 | CIA-11 | - Simplify menus where appropriate -- less modules with single-item groups. |
| 19:03.04 | Rewad | hi, im updating my readme of my addon, little language problem here ^^. what is correct (WoWonid supports Arcade Panel) or (WoWonid support Arcade Panel)? :\ |
| 19:03.19 | nevcairiel | the first |
| 19:03.19 | hyperChipmunk | 1st |
| 19:03.20 | Kemayo | "supports" |
| 19:03.39 | Rewad | thanks a lot :) |
| 19:05.24 | hyperChipmunk | in english, you use the s in the verb when the noun (wowinid, in this case) is singular, you omit it when the noun is plural |
| 19:05.58 | hyperChipmunk | you'd use support if the sentence were, "these three addons support Arcade Panel" |
| 19:06.39 | Fisker- | so sbu :P |
| 19:06.42 | Fisker- | how far are you? :o |
| 19:07.32 | sbu | ewww :o |
| 19:07.39 | sbu | already commited EU Verderbnis |
| 19:07.54 | sbu | try to seperate your battegroups into single files |
| 19:07.57 | sbu | and commit |
| 19:07.57 | sbu | :) |
| 19:08.26 | Fisker- | i can't commit shit |
| 19:08.27 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:08.55 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32921 10Tattle/dataminer.lua: Tattle: bugfix in miner |
| 19:10.01 | Fisker- | NOW YOU TELL ME?! |
| 19:10.02 | Fisker- | :P |
| 19:10.13 | Fisker- | Btw updates soems pt3 data |
| 19:10.19 | Fisker- | and stop deleting my config.lua :( |
| 19:12.11 | Chompers | tattle? |
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| 19:12.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
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| 19:17.47 | sbu | nymbia: more battlegroups later this evening :o |
| 19:18.17 | sbu | (commits) |
| 19:18.19 | Fisker- | good night cruel world |
| 19:18.33 | nymbia | sbu: nice |
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| 19:19.21 | Rewad | i try to commit my changes to svn but i get allways: error: inconsistent line ending style in rewadme.txt, what is wrong? |
| 19:19.29 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:19.37 | nevcairiel | your file contains two kinds of line endings |
| 19:19.40 | nymbia | sbu: i started it before i went to sleep last night and something died like 800 teams in |
| 19:19.43 | CIA-11 | 03renchap * r32922 10JumpCounter/ (Core.lua JumpCounter.toc): |
| 19:19.43 | CIA-11 | JumpCounter: |
| 19:19.43 | CIA-11 | - Don't count jumps while dead but not ghost |
| 19:19.43 | CIA-11 | - Added revision to version display |
| 19:19.44 | nevcairiel | get a good editor |
| 19:19.58 | nymbia | sbu: either my internet or the armory server |
| 19:20.23 | Gnarfoz | if you're on linux, just use "flip" on the file twice |
| 19:20.27 | Gnarfoz | should do the job, too |
| 19:20.43 | Pneu | or dos2unix |
| 19:21.29 | sbu | nymbia: no problem here... |
| 19:21.39 | sbu | naming of battlegroup file ok? |
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| 19:23.16 | Fisker- | renchap omg gamebreaking :( |
| 19:23.19 | nymbia | yeah that'll work fine |
| 19:23.29 | renchap | Fisker-: ? |
| 19:23.39 | nymbia | i'll probably just have the script make the files |
| 19:24.33 | Fisker- | i find it funny renchap :o |
| 19:24.48 | Fisker- | so much seriousness in such a novelty addon :P |
| 19:24.59 | nevcairiel | sbu: did you do EU-Todbringer by any chance? if not i might ..^^ |
| 19:25.36 | renchap | i need to find how i can stop counting while you have the Levitate/Slow Fall buff |
| 19:25.53 | nymbia | why? |
| 19:26.09 | renchap | because you cant jump with this buff |
| 19:26.19 | nymbia | i can jump with slow fall.. |
| 19:26.21 | nymbia | anyway |
| 19:26.26 | renchap | so levitate :) |
| 19:26.48 | nymbia | i dont really want something tiny like jumpcounter doing a ton of buff and conditional checks every time i jump :( |
| 19:27.08 | CIA-11 | 03rewad * r32923 10WoWonid/ (Readme.txt WoWonid.lua): |
| 19:27.08 | CIA-11 | WoWonid: |
| 19:27.08 | CIA-11 | - ready for curse-release v1.7 |
| 19:27.08 | CIA-11 | - readme updated |
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| 19:29.20 | kenlyric | renchap, but you still can hit the jump button, right? |
| 19:29.42 | renchap | yes |
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| 19:30.20 | kenlyric | seems odd. You're still jumping. Why would you not count it? |
| 19:30.32 | kenlyric | just because your stupid body doesn't move is no reason not to count it. |
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| 19:31.35 | kenlyric | seriously, you might want to deeply consider the *purpose* of jumpcounter. As a user, I'd expect it to track how often a jump, whether or not I succeed. |
| 19:31.35 | sbu | nevcairiel: not yet |
| 19:31.56 | sbu | nevcairiel: have fun :o |
| 19:32.09 | kenlyric | the exception I can think of is flying, since the key does somethin different there. |
| 19:32.25 | renchap | and swimming |
| 19:33.27 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1176837192023.png <-yay 5 minutes in mspaint made the news ololol |
| 19:35.24 | trh | so, he was south korean... when is usa gonna make a war on terror against them? :P |
| 19:35.47 | Fisker- | "Omg south korea is neighbour to north korea, get em!" |
| 19:36.17 | Fisker- | That would be the greatest plottwist of all |
| 19:36.28 | kenlyric | no, when swimming y ou are also jumping :) |
| 19:36.36 | trh | they have message of mass destruction! get them! |
| 19:36.38 | kenlyric | you're just jumping in the water. |
| 19:36.57 | Fisker- | you can't jump in water silly |
| 19:37.02 | Fisker- | good night though |
| 19:37.14 | trh | Fisker-: you can jump at the surface of water |
| 19:37.20 | trh | Fisker-: and you jump a bit outside of it |
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| 19:38.03 | kenlyric | it's clearly a different action than normal swimming. |
| 19:38.14 | kenlyric | you can't, for instance, hold space bar and expect to reach the top of the water. |
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| 19:38.27 | trh | kenlyric: true, but who cares anyway? ;) |
| 19:38.38 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32924 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: |
| 19:38.38 | CIA-11 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 19:38.38 | CIA-11 | - Throw a more informative error for a problem that should never happen. |
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| 19:38.54 | trh | nymbia: great commit note ;) |
| 19:39.02 | nymbia | ;p |
| 19:39.06 | kenlyric | The same people who use step counters. IE people who need more sex. |
| 19:39.36 | renchap | maybe i can count both |
| 19:39.46 | kenlyric | brilliant! |
| 19:39.53 | trh | renchap: times you had sex + jumps? |
| 19:40.07 | nymbia | that'd be nice |
| 19:40.19 | nymbia | track both spacebar presses and succeeded jumps |
| 19:40.25 | renchap | yup |
| 19:40.33 | deltron | woot got phpraider up and going |
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| 19:42.37 | deltron | http://www.sanctuary-guild.org/raid/ <-- how does that look for you guys? |
| 19:42.56 | Arrowmaster | this is humorious, i have 1045 +shadow damage on live with 1 item from TBC raiding, go on ptr and get T5 and other stuff and after mixing and matching i have 1099 due to lack of enchants and good gems |
| 19:42.59 | krka | my eyes! the goggles, they do nothing! |
| 19:43.16 | kenlyric | 1045 shadow damage? |
| 19:43.22 | kenlyric | is it in your armory? |
| 19:43.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 19:43.34 | kenlyric | I have a sp friend who just got over 900, is looking for more. |
| 19:43.49 | renchap | kenlyric: wait |
| 19:43.54 | renchap | a friend have 1200+ |
| 19:43.59 | Arrowmaster | im a warlock and thats counting 100 from felarmor |
| 19:44.48 | renchap | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Kael%27thas&n=Demonfear |
| 19:44.54 | renchap | 1157 unbuffed |
| 19:45.01 | pastamancer | I'm only at 900 +shadow... /jealous |
| 19:45.12 | kenlyric | lots of arrowmasters, but only one 70. |
| 19:45.18 | deltron | my coworker has a couple priests over 1000+ shadow damage |
| 19:45.29 | Mikma | anyone here can help me with a little "if then else end" problem? |
| 19:46.01 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric: my character is Tokrim |
| 19:46.45 | ckknight | Mikma: ask it |
| 19:47.04 | NeoTron | deltron: I'm at 920 shadow dmg on my lock without fel armor |
| 19:47.16 | Matrix110 | its not like its hard to get alot of +dmg without raiding |
| 19:47.20 | NeoTron | not quite there yet |
| 19:47.34 | NeoTron | although I'm not completely abandoning stamina for dmg either |
| 19:47.43 | NeoTron | I go with +5 dmg +6 sta over +9 dmg for example |
| 19:47.48 | Mikma | i got a table named buffsToWatchFor with 2 in it. i need the if then to understand that if either of those 2 textures are in another table do foo. |
| 19:47.54 | Mikma | i'll show an example |
| 19:47.59 | deltron | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Boulderfist&n=Eir <-- buffs up to over 1000 dmg heh |
| 19:48.30 | Mikma | buffsToWatchFor = { ['Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Holy_WordFortitude'] = true, ['Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Holy_PrayerOfFortitude'] = true, } |
| 19:48.41 | Mikma | if tBuffs['Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Holy_WordFortitude'] or ['Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Holy_PrayerOfFortitude'] then foo ... |
| 19:48.51 | Matrix110 | Shadowweave, Girdle of Ruination, Spellfire Pants, Spellfire Helm, Bracers of Havok, Seers Signet, Ring from 50 Things from Auchindoun dungeons, cape from quest with 29dmg/crit from netherstorm quest, Badge Trinket and Quagmirrans Eye and you are at 1k:P |
| 19:48.54 | Mikma | or something like that, but sstill it doesn't work for some *!#!% reason |
| 19:48.55 | NeoTron | anyone know what the new spell hit gems are? |
| 19:49.16 | kenlyric | looks like he just needs to get some UG from karazhan/heroics(badges) |
| 19:49.24 | *** join/#wowace ravagernl (n=chatzill@85.148.20.110) |
| 19:49.24 | NeoTron | I'm currently waiting with some blue gems as I'm curious what they are |
| 19:49.27 | Mikma | (the tBuffs is created in function that works) |
| 19:49.32 | Matrix110 | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/items/new_epicgems.jpg for new gems |
| 19:49.41 | Mikma | but the if-function doesn't seem to understand what i'm trying to do |
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| 19:49.48 | Mikma | "if this or that then" |
| 19:50.08 | ravagernl | Does castsequence have a reset option to reset when the player dies? |
| 19:50.32 | Matrix110 | no... |
| 19:50.33 | stavmar | I received this error with PT3 but it looks like baggins is the issue...Any thoughts? http://ace.pastey.net/13414 |
| 19:50.44 | Anea | you can use the reset=combat |
| 19:50.49 | Cryect | sure you can have it reset on combat |
| 19:50.52 | Cryect | and anea beats me |
| 19:51.11 | ravagernl | No its a rebuff macro |
| 19:51.21 | ravagernl | I want to reset it when i res |
| 19:51.43 | Gngsk | ravagernl, why not just use corkfu? |
| 19:52.12 | ravagernl | hmm |
| 19:52.56 | Bibi` | Matrix110 |
| 19:53.04 | Bibi` | actually, you're lucky i've got a highlight on mmo-champion.com |
| 19:53.19 | Bibi` | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/bigpost/jewelcraft.jpg |
| 19:53.24 | Bibi` | but shhhhh, don't tell anyone ! |
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| 19:54.51 | deltron | new jewels eh? |
| 19:54.51 | yacoob | moo-champion? |
| 19:54.51 | kenlyric | I like your jewels! |
| 19:55.28 | yacoob | tauren portal? |
| 19:55.28 | deltron | thundering skyfire diamond is <3 if true |
| 19:55.31 | Saroz | can anyone give SS on pala T4 healing on PTR? |
| 19:55.51 | Saroz | of* |
| 19:56.09 | Cryect | shouldn't have changed |
| 19:56.59 | hyperChipmunk | T5 was what changed, not T4 |
| 19:57.05 | kenlyric | you have to enjoy the further nurfs to spirit. |
| 19:57.05 | Gngsk | relentless earthstorm diamond looks nice |
| 19:57.18 | kenlyric | the epic gems... 15 stamina, 4m5s... 10 spirit. Screw you blizzard. |
| 19:57.18 | Saroz | T4 should be, with illumination nerf.. someone said it was changed |
| 19:57.22 | Bibi` | yacoob : NOT FUN§ |
| 19:57.33 | deltron | hmm mmo-champion a gold farming type site? |
| 19:57.39 | Saroz | no |
| 19:57.46 | Bibi` | yes, join it, and you'll get gold. |
| 19:57.50 | deltron | hehe |
| 19:57.52 | Bibi` | and sex too. |
| 19:57.59 | Saroz | uhhh |
| 19:58.02 | Saroz | tempted! |
| 19:58.03 | NeoTron | hyperChipmunk: one would wonder why, as looking at dungeon 3... it's not really worse than T4 |
| 19:58.03 | Bibi` | it's well known that 5000 gold = sex anyway. |
| 19:58.04 | kenlyric | with you? |
| 19:58.15 | NeoTron | it's different ( spell hit vs spell crit/bit more spell dmg for gloves) |
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| 19:58.35 | Arrowmaster | hmm that says "3% Increased Critical Damage", am i the only one thinking thats meaning 3% more damage from crits and not 3% more crit? |
| 19:58.47 | NeoTron | sounds correct to me Arrowmaster |
| 19:58.55 | kenlyric | you want to know my favorite part of the new gems? the cross color ones increase the useless stat (healing/int) and not the mana regen. |
| 19:59.03 | kenlyric | Thank you for loving me so much, blizzard. |
| 19:59.26 | NeoTron | too bad those epic gems are like black temple level |
| 19:59.57 | NeoTron | and a whole 1 more spell dmg, 1 more stamina for Glowing Shadowsong Amethyst :( |
| 20:00.07 | kenlyric | at least it's more. |
| 20:00.13 | deltron | hmm |
| 20:00.17 | kenlyric | Blizzard is bad at math. |
| 20:00.23 | deltron | never actually been to mmo-champion before |
| 20:00.27 | deltron | interesting stuff |
| 20:00.30 | Bibi` | yousuck. |
| 20:00.39 | Bibi` | but i've got something for people like you ! |
| 20:00.43 | Bibi` | just wait a few more minutes. |
| 20:00.44 | kenlyric | 4 / 1 * 4 =16. |
| 20:01.00 | kenlyric | in blizzard math... 4 /1 * 4 = 10 |
| 20:01.22 | NeoTron | overall gem progression is minimal |
| 20:01.37 | Arrowmaster | the multi color ones will always seem like that |
| 20:01.37 | NeoTron | but I suppose it also can't be overpowering |
| 20:01.41 | kenlyric | it's minimal, but balanced. |
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| 20:02.03 | Aiiane | well, the think is |
| 20:02.05 | Aiiane | *thing |
| 20:02.12 | Aiiane | from base -> blue is a pretty large progression |
| 20:02.18 | Aiiane | but blue->purp isnt |
| 20:02.24 | NeoTron | Aiiane: from vendor -> blue yes |
| 20:02.28 | Cryect | how did you expect them to increase the +healing more from the change of blue->purp |
| 20:02.30 | NeoTron | from uncommon -> rare not so much |
| 20:02.41 | Cryect | an extra point of MP5 would be way overbudget on the difference |
| 20:03.09 | kenlyric | level to level the increase is smaller. Except for one. mp5 |
| 20:03.09 | Cryect | unless they had less +healing than the blue gem |
| 20:03.09 | Aiiane | Cryect: which wouldnt be impossible |
| 20:03.23 | Cryect | no it wouldn't be impossible but I think they preferred to keep MP5 the same instead of decreasing +healing |
| 20:03.26 | kenlyric | Cryect: that would be sweet. |
| 20:03.36 | kenlyric | but they're dumb. |
| 20:03.39 | NeoTron | kind of rough to get 2 more stats for a 50g premium |
| 20:03.45 | NeoTron | and who knows how much the epic ones will cost |
| 20:03.46 | kenlyric | no way I'd take that gem over 4mp5 |
| 20:03.55 | kenlyric | 11 healing is NOT worth 2mp5 |
| 20:04.15 | kenlyric | but, that's why they have gems, to let people choose. |
| 20:04.35 | Cryect | yep |
| 20:04.46 | Bibi` | TONIGHT WE DINE IN PTR ! |
| 20:04.59 | Bibi` | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=119.0 |
| 20:04.59 | Matrix110 | if you already got alot mp5 on gear you take the healing gem if you got alot of healing on your gear you take the mp5 gem:P |
| 20:05.08 | kenlyric | they could fix the problem by making the common blue gem worth 3 spirit or 1mp5... and then multiply from there. |
| 20:05.21 | kenlyric | As it stands now, the spirit gem gets seirously undervalued at each level next to the mp5 gem |
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| 20:05.33 | Matrix110 | the pvp gem change is fucked-.- |
| 20:05.36 | Matrix110 | i paid 30k for one ffs |
| 20:05.39 | kaiden | Anyone know any ace based addons that saves auction prices as you sell stuff on the AH? |
| 20:05.41 | kenlyric | Matrix110: there's no such thing as a priest with too much mana regen and not enough healing. |
| 20:05.54 | Matrix110 | kenlyric the word is balance:P |
| 20:06.02 | kenlyric | we got healing coming out of our eyeballs. |
| 20:07.14 | ckknight | when do we get another PTR patch? |
| 20:07.35 | Matrix110 | kinda random i guess |
| 20:08.36 | kenlyric | our patches will block out the sun. |
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| 20:09.07 | Aiiane | kaiden: KC_Items? |
| 20:09.12 | Funkeh` | anyone ever got their char bugged? every time i log in it fucking dc's me, only with 1 char, alts are fine |
| 20:09.19 | Aiiane | not sure on that one, but it's the only thing that comes to mind |
| 20:09.25 | Cryect | Saroz: just checked pally healing T4 its exactly the same |
| 20:10.13 | kaiden | Aiiane, ah didn't hit on it as it just says manages all kinds of itemf unctionality |
| 20:10.13 | kaiden | didn't really know what it was for by that :P |
| 20:10.13 | Cryect | Saroz: I mean there is barely on crit rating on it what would they really change |
| 20:10.30 | Aiiane | I'm not really entirely sure eiither kaiden, as it's mostly indirect knowledge I have of it |
| 20:10.30 | Aiiane | but you could see |
| 20:10.54 | kenlyric | it's not like crit doesn't still restore mana. |
| 20:10.59 | Cryect | right :-p |
| 20:11.30 | kenlyric | at a 20% crit rate, you've gone from 80% spell cost to 90% spelll cost. |
| 20:11.54 | ckknight | oh, discussing pally healing |
| 20:11.56 | kenlyric | and clearly, since they left that talent their, they think of crits as an important pally stat. |
| 20:12.03 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32925 10Tattle/ (30 files): |
| 20:12.03 | CIA-11 | Tattle: |
| 20:12.03 | CIA-11 | - Auto-generate mini-files for each battlegroup. Lets see if |
| 20:12.03 | CIA-11 | filesystems explode. |
| 20:12.08 | ckknight | well, to tell how much more you're going to suck post-patch, use this formula: |
| 20:12.26 | ckknight | (1-C)/(1-0.5C) |
| 20:12.26 | ckknight | where C is your crit percentage. |
| 20:12.31 | ckknight | say C is 35%, or 0.35 |
| 20:12.42 | ckknight | then that works out to 78.78% |
| 20:12.48 | ckknight | which is your effective mana pool |
| 20:12.52 | ckknight | comparatively. |
| 20:13.17 | kenlyric | 78.78% of infinity is what? |
| 20:13.27 | ckknight | kenlyric: infinityh |
| 20:13.31 | ckknight | given enough MP5 |
| 20:13.33 | kenlyric | so, not a nerf. |
| 20:13.52 | NightHawkTheSane | nono, still a nerf, because it's only ~80% of infinity. it's a -smaller- infinity! :p |
| 20:13.57 | ckknight | it's not much of a nerf. |
| 20:14.03 | NightHawkTheSane | (yes, that was sarcasm) |
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| 20:14.11 | ckknight | my prediction is that coupled with the instance changes, it won't do very much |
| 20:14.13 | Tornhoof | ^^ |
| 20:14.20 | ckknight | it'll make priests better comparatively |
| 20:14.21 | ravagernl | hey ck have you fixed the aura borders when disabling configuration mode? |
| 20:14.22 | kenlyric | See, i remember when i could cast endlessly without running out of mana... but that was a lesser heal rank 3, and it healed for very little. |
| 20:14.27 | ckknight | but pallies are still the best single-target healers |
| 20:14.31 | Cryect | basically paladins will have to use slightly more consumables |
| 20:14.33 | kenlyric | And they broke an entire *game concept* to stop me from doing it. |
| 20:14.39 | ckknight | ravagernl: I didn't put it in, I didn't think it was my responsibility |
| 20:14.39 | sbu | works nymbia |
| 20:14.44 | sbu | commit after gruul kill :o |
| 20:14.50 | kenlyric | hmmm s/slightly more//g |
| 20:14.51 | ravagernl | o yeah, right |
| 20:14.57 | Cryect | nothing too horrible |
| 20:15.01 | ckknight | kenlyric: what did they break? |
| 20:15.06 | kenlyric | ckknight: that makes me die inside. |
| 20:15.22 | kenlyric | pallies single target healers. Like someone kicked me in the nuts. |
| 20:15.23 | ravagernl | hey nymbia, have you fixed the aura borders when disabling configuration mode? |
| 20:15.32 | kenlyric | ckknight: they broke downranking. |
| 20:15.46 | kenlyric | as an efficience gain, I mean. |
| 20:15.51 | kenlyric | *efficiency |
| 20:15.53 | Stephmw | kenlyric: get with the programme... they 'fixed' it |
| 20:15.53 | ckknight | hrm |
| 20:16.01 | kenlyric | Stephmw: right. |
| 20:16.09 | ckknight | what's wrong with pallies being the best single-target healers? |
| 20:16.16 | kenlyric | I'm not really bothered by it, since it was clearly OP :) |
| 20:16.30 | kenlyric | ckknight: uh... cause they weren't before 2.0. |
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| 20:16.38 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:16.39 | ckknight | meh |
| 20:16.44 | ckknight | you snooze you lose |
| 20:16.59 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:17.01 | ckknight | but yea, it's fucked |
| 20:17.01 | kenlyric | because if pallies are the best single target healers and druids are the best HoT healers and shammies are the best raid topping healers... |
| 20:17.09 | kenlyric | uh... there's a class missing in that structure :) |
| 20:17.13 | Cryect | Priests are the best AOE healers |
| 20:17.23 | hyperChipmunk | the best all-around healers? |
| 20:17.38 | Pneu | priests are for dps :) |
| 20:17.51 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: yeah, but we're like druids... jack of all trades, master of none. |
| 20:17.58 | Codayus | Now if only priests were A) particularly good at AoE healing, or B) AoE healing was particularly needed...which is why a lot of top raid guilds took 1 priest for Imp Spirit, and had the rest go shadow. :-/ |
| 20:18.00 | kenlyric | and, we spent so much time making fun of druids. It hurts. |
| 20:18.20 | nymbia | ravagernl: huh? they'll go away just fine if the frame is updated when config mode is turned off, which it should be |
| 20:18.34 | Tornhoof | raid topping healers? |
| 20:18.36 | Codayus | I have to say, I'd have liked a buff to priests instead of a pally nerf though. |
| 20:18.41 | Tornhoof | like in hots? |
| 20:18.49 | ravagernl | nymbia: for party it does, it doesn't for player |
| 20:18.50 | Cryect | Encounters that need AOE healing suck |
| 20:18.56 | Tornhoof | i like patchwerk |
| 20:18.58 | Tornhoof | :D |
| 20:18.59 | kenlyric | Tornhoof: people who heal everyone else while the tanks are getting heals. |
| 20:19.03 | Codayus | (For example, a small buff to the %s of mediation and holy concentration would have been nice.) |
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| 20:19.05 | Cryect | then you get rid of your other healers and get all priests |
| 20:19.08 | Tornhoof | ah ok kenlyric |
| 20:19.12 | kenlyric | pre 2.0, that always seemed to be pallies in a shammy-free environment. |
| 20:19.18 | Morgh | Cryect: You mean "Encounters that require resistance gear and stacking suck" :p |
| 20:19.20 | Tornhoof | yeh that's fine |
| 20:19.34 | ravagernl | hmm, maybe i just dont have the latest version |
| 20:19.34 | Cryect | those fights are normally the same :-p |
| 20:19.35 | kenlyric | They have inefficient big heals and very very efficienct small heals. They seem perfect for raid healing. |
| 20:20.08 | Cryect | thats what paladins used to do :-p |
| 20:20.16 | Cryect | make my hots worthless |
| 20:20.18 | kenlyric | I know. Go back! |
| 20:20.27 | Tornhoof | i want patchwerk back, now there i was useful in healing ;) |
| 20:20.44 | xyu` | how do priests remove hamstring? |
| 20:20.49 | xyu` | what do they use? |
| 20:21.02 | kenlyric | uh... speed potion? |
| 20:21.02 | Pneu | Luffa |
| 20:21.02 | ckknight | dispel magic? |
| 20:21.04 | Cryect | uh potions? |
| 20:21.08 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 20:21.09 | xyu` | it's in arena |
| 20:21.11 | xyu` | no pots |
| 20:21.11 | Pneu | FaP |
| 20:21.15 | xyu` | arena |
| 20:21.17 | Cryect | BoP |
| 20:21.21 | xyu` | BoP? |
| 20:21.21 | kenlyric | unless mass dispel does it, they use nothing. |
| 20:21.26 | Tornhoof | they wait |
| 20:21.33 | xyu` | massdispel doesn't, and he's not waiting |
| 20:21.43 | Tornhoof | trinket? |
| 20:21.43 | nymbia | they get freedom? heh |
| 20:21.51 | Cryect | GNome Priests? |
| 20:21.53 | kenlyric | nothing removes hamstring that I am aware of... bleed effects will be removed by mass dispel supposedly in 2.1, but I didn't see that in the notes. |
| 20:21.54 | xyu` | yeah i dont think so, hamstring isn't a spell either |
| 20:21.57 | xyu` | and he can do it on the fly |
| 20:22.27 | nymbia | its gotta be BoF |
| 20:22.29 | Pneu | hamstring isnt a bleed thinking about it |
| 20:22.33 | xyu` | no blessing |
| 20:22.34 | xyu` | it was a hunter |
| 20:22.51 | Cryect | I thought you said it was a priest/ |
| 20:22.51 | NightHawkTheSane | does his pvp trinket remove snares? |
| 20:22.57 | nymbia | no |
| 20:23.02 | Cryect | hunter trinkets remove snares |
| 20:23.08 | sbu | nymbia: you killed my filesystem ;o |
| 20:23.14 | kenlyric | it's not really even that priests are somehow worse healers... it's very nice that we can do dots ANd big heals and small heals all very well. Our mana efficiency is just shot, while druids and pallies got some pretty hefty talents to help with that. (though, the pally one is getting nerfed) |
| 20:23.21 | nymbia | priest trunk is charm fear poly |
| 20:23.24 | nymbia | sbu: lol really? |
| 20:23.41 | sbu | kinda... dont know, svn tells me there is already EURuin but it isnt there ;o |
| 20:23.54 | Cryect | kenlyric: druid mana effiency is crap the way they are trying to sell druids |
| 20:23.56 | nymbia | hm |
| 20:24.05 | Cryect | spirit is garbage for massive HoTing |
| 20:24.07 | nymbia | well that's not even special characters or anything |
| 20:24.13 | Cryect | but lets mage spirit be their aim now! |
| 20:24.13 | kenlyric | I'm only comforted by the fact that I raid with pallies who aren't excellent, so I can still feel superior. |
| 20:24.27 | Cryect | make not mage >_> |
| 20:24.39 | nymbia | sbu: try re-checking out to a different dir then copy you current stuff into there |
| 20:24.44 | kenlyric | yeah, druid have it worse than priests I think. Good thing they don't exist. |
| 20:25.00 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, some druids actually spec resto? I thought they all speced feral? |
| 20:25.11 | kenlyric | "good thing they don't exist" |
| 20:25.19 | Cryect | Not many at the moment since the resto tree is kinda broken |
| 20:25.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yes yes, i was typing that as you said that. :P |
| 20:25.35 | kenlyric | seriiously, what fight are you going to want a druid to take up a valuable healer slot? shade maybe? |
| 20:25.39 | Cryect | the talents just weren't well thought out at the end of the tree |
| 20:25.41 | NightHawkTheSane | That, and every druid thinks "lolz ima rogue" or "lolz ima tank" |
| 20:25.49 | Cryect | Shade is the worst fight for a druid in Karazhan |
| 20:26.05 | Cryect | unless you are just casting healing touch |
| 20:26.06 | kenlyric | course, 20% speed decrease in tree must suck therre... |
| 20:26.23 | Cryect | Treeform is garbage for the fight because HOTs are garbage for the fight |
| 20:26.41 | kenlyric | o.O |
| 20:26.42 | Cryect | its a fight with direct heals only ever needed (HOTs are useful during water elementals and thats about it) |
| 20:26.47 | NeoTron | so who else is going for netherdrake mount? |
| 20:26.54 | sbu | nymbia: yep... working on that |
| 20:26.57 | kenlyric | i think shade is the only fight besides moroes where they make sure to have a priest for the HoT. |
| 20:27.04 | Cryect | wtf? |
| 20:27.05 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: who -isn't- |
| 20:27.13 | NeoTron | a lot of people |
| 20:27.17 | Cryect | The second a target gets hit they are instantly at full life |
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| 20:27.18 | NeoTron | like everyone without an epic mount |
| 20:27.26 | kenlyric | can't heal while you're moving. |
| 20:27.31 | NeoTron | and people that don't enjoy doing the same repeatable quests for weeks? |
| 20:27.31 | Cryect | how would you use HOTs on aran besides a water elemental tnaking |
| 20:27.34 | Cryect | why are you moving |
| 20:27.38 | Cryect | 90% of aran you aren't moving |
| 20:27.49 | Cryect | You move for 5 seconds during AE |
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| 20:27.54 | kenlyric | you must get blizzard less frequently than we do :) |
| 20:27.56 | Cryect | Move for 5 seconds on Blizzard |
| 20:27.57 | Cryect | and thats it |
| 20:28.02 | Cryect | so you run across the room |
| 20:28.05 | deltron | aran sucks |
| 20:28.06 | Cryect | to where its not going to move |
| 20:28.10 | deltron | i hate that fight |
| 20:28.11 | xlvii | okay, since we're on the topic of healers, what should i roll? |
| 20:28.13 | xlvii | a paladin or a priest? |
| 20:28.16 | NeoTron | he also moves and you have to avoid him |
| 20:28.21 | kenlyric | it gets there eventually, doesn't it? |
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| 20:28.45 | Cryect | yeah you move to where it first started |
| 20:28.51 | Cryect | when it moves away |
| 20:28.54 | NeoTron | Cryect: still have to adjust a bit more |
| 20:29.00 | Cryect | you have plenty of time for a move thats less than a second :-p |
| 20:29.04 | NeoTron | but most people don't seem to grasp the "move once" concept |
| 20:29.20 | NeoTron | but instead move a little bit and then end up having to move again... |
| 20:29.44 | Cryect | Well I'm basing this on a raid of compentent healers who understand precasting heals to land right when the spell gets casted and to move only when they need to and to the most efficient locations :-p |
| 20:29.58 | NightHawkTheSane | xlvii: well, you could roll a priest and be emo about how you suck at healing (which isnt true), or you can be a pally and be emo about how you suck at healing (which, also isnt true). |
| 20:30.09 | kenlyric | Cryect: oh, to live in your kingdom. |
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| 20:31.15 | Cryect | well you can if you can recruit and gkick people who can't do that |
| 20:31.18 | kenlyric | Cryect: may I also assume they are healers with Naxx experience? |
| 20:31.48 | Cryect | Yes, I'm in a guild on Vashj, world 2nd Hydross kill, etc |
| 20:32.01 | kenlyric | like I said... your magical kingdom. |
| 20:32.05 | Cryect | so my expectations in healers is a little higher :-p |
| 20:32.15 | Pucmel | question, are you a healer ? |
| 20:32.21 | Cryect | Was |
| 20:32.34 | kenlyric | my expectations are higher... just, if I waitied for them to be fulfilled, iw ouldn't get anything done :) |
| 20:32.34 | Pucmel | ok, so normal dps class whine |
| 20:32.38 | Cryect | No |
| 20:34.24 | Cryect | I'm a druid |
| 20:34.24 | Cryect | Healed all of Naxx |
| 20:34.24 | Cryect | and I've healed all of Karazhan |
| 20:34.25 | Cryect | I tank/dps though in 25 mans since feral druids are well worthless for healing in them |
| 20:34.25 | Cryect | heal kara on all fights as both feral & resto pretty much the same besides mana efficiency sucks as feral druid :-p |
| 20:34.26 | Chompers | what are you arguing about? |
| 20:34.34 | kenlyric | bunnies |
| 20:34.36 | Cryect | oh that HOTs were worthless on most fights :-p |
| 20:34.44 | Chompers | oh |
| 20:34.47 | Pucmel | bunny ---> here |
| 20:34.50 | Cryect | Heh kenlyric said HOTs were useful on Aran and I said unfortunately no :( |
| 20:35.07 | kenlyric | they are not useful to you. That is not the same thing. |
| 20:35.46 | Pneu | gruul down (: |
| 20:36.08 | Chompers | i'd say on that particular fight they're useful |
| 20:36.57 | Cryect | useful as mana wasters |
| 20:36.57 | kenlyric | Chompers: not if you're perfect. |
| 20:36.57 | sbu | some ppl are too dumb for gruul :/ |
| 20:36.57 | sbu | not getting past 40% |
| 20:36.57 | Cryect | people stayed below full life for about 2-5 seconds normally |
| 20:36.57 | Cryect | so a HOT would tick once |
| 20:37.00 | Chompers | are we basing this off a perfect raid group or a realistic raid group? |
| 20:37.08 | kenlyric | Chompers: they're doing vashj. You decide. |
| 20:37.10 | Cryect | A usual balanced raid group |
| 20:37.23 | Chompers | aaah, poopsockers to the max |
| 20:37.23 | Cryect | meaning 1 of every class + 1 random other class |
| 20:37.39 | kenlyric | I bet none of their warlocks have to run through flame wreath to "get to" an add to CC it.. ;) |
| 20:37.44 | Cryect | or even get rid of any class you want (including warlock) and its still the same |
| 20:37.51 | Pneu | we have 3 priests at gruul, 2 are shadow :) |
| 20:38.05 | sbu | hm |
| 20:38.06 | kenlyric | Pneu: that's usual. |
| 20:38.14 | sbu | ok, too much heal here i guess |
| 20:38.16 | kenlyric | I haven't heard of many people taking more than holy priest to a 25 man. |
| 20:38.26 | sbu | 1 pally, 1 shammy, 4 priest, 1 druid :/ |
| 20:38.27 | Cryect | the healing balance in raids though was stupid at least before 2.1 (don't imagine it will change much) :-p |
| 20:38.45 | Pucmel | 4shadow4holy in 2.10 :) |
| 20:38.47 | Cryect | I mean we bring 1 priest, 2 shammy, 4 paladins to most things and sometimes also 1 druid for healing |
| 20:38.51 | Pucmel | kick loladins |
| 20:38.52 | kenlyric | yeah, always way too many healers in raids. |
| 20:46.48 | kenlyric | seee, nobody wants to bring priests :) |
| 20:46.49 | kenlyric | you bring them just for the buff, don't you? |
| 20:46.49 | Cryect | we bring 3 shadow priests though :-p |
| 20:46.49 | Chompers | do you have any dps warriors in your raids Cryect? |
| 20:46.50 | Cryect | sometimes up to 4 feral druids |
| 20:46.50 | Cryect | for a while no because they all quit |
| 20:46.50 | Cryect | we only bring 1 |
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| 20:46.51 | kenlyric | so, why 4 pallies and one priest? |
| 20:46.51 | Cryect | and only brought 1 before hand since needed two tanking warriors for most things |
| 20:46.51 | Cryect | because everything in 25 mans is almost entirely single target healing |
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| 20:46.52 | Cryect | The only class we don't really bring though to raids is hunters which is 1 |
| 20:46.53 | Cryect | sometimes 2 |
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| 20:46.54 | kenlyric | what's your holy priest do? |
| 20:46.54 | nymbia | ds |
| 20:46.54 | nymbia | heh |
| 20:46.54 | Pucmel | As of the 2.1.0 test realm, there are Troll Roof Stalkers on top of the Orgrimmar bank. |
| 20:46.55 | kenlyric | qft |
| 20:46.55 | Pucmel | noes ! |
| 20:46.55 | Chompers | yay! the prince has bugged |
| 20:46.56 | kenlyric | did you run out of the room? |
| 20:46.56 | Chompers | i think they did, im not in the raid |
| 20:46.56 | Chompers | listening on vent |
| 20:46.56 | NeoTron | l2wipe |
| 20:46.56 | kenlyric | Ceiling cat is watching you cheat! |
| 20:46.56 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32927 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 20:46.57 | CIA-11 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 20:46.57 | CIA-11 | - Fix Tradeskill.Gem.Cut in the dataminer |
| 20:46.57 | Killmore | pwnt ! |
| 20:46.57 | Chompers | sshhhh! |
| 20:46.57 | nymbia | pull a mob up to him from below and use demo shout on it |
| 20:46.57 | nymbia | when its next to him |
| 20:46.57 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.58 | ckknight | Pucmel: roof stalkers? |
| 20:46.58 | Chompers | thanks nymbia |
| 20:46.58 | Chompers | they're trying that now |
| 20:46.58 | nymbia | worked for us the one time it happened |
| 20:46.59 | nymbia | no idea why. lol |
| 20:47.18 | chuckg | Anyone know of a webapp that exists which as pulled in the top 5 teams and you can search through them by class? |
| 20:47.18 | chuckg | (in arena?) |
| 20:47.19 | Pucmel | ckknight: yep :( http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96072613&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 20:47.19 | Pucmel | huge nerf imo |
| 20:47.20 | kenlyric | Cryect: say on a fight like curator... what are your healing assignements, precisely? |
| 20:47.51 | kenlyric | huge nerf to what pucmel? |
| 20:47.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Pucmel: sounds like an amusing bandaid to a bigger problem |
| 20:48.28 | kenlyric | it's not like other players can't get up there... |
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| 20:48.49 | kenlyric | I figured roof stalkers were for the kind of roofs you weren't normally supposed to stand on. |
| 20:49.00 | kenlyric | like darkshire. |
| 20:49.30 | NightHawkTheSane | or gadget. >< |
| 20:50.52 | kenlyric | hey, can we have lurking sea trolls in the canals in stormwind? |
| 20:50.52 | Pucmel | nah org bank roof is like meeting place .. dancing together and so :( |
| 20:50.52 | kenlyric | and something to patrol the pit in ironforge. |
| 20:50.52 | NightHawkTheSane | why sea trolls? wouldn't they be on our side? |
| 20:50.52 | Cryect | curator 1 healer on the tank and 1 healer on the flare tank + others then if there is a third healer wherever |
| 20:50.53 | Pucmel | + invisible gnome stalkers to SW-IF tram |
| 20:51.12 | kenlyric | Pucmel: if I'm not entirely mistaken, you go pvp when entering an enemy city, even on a pve realm. |
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| 20:51.12 | Pucmel | ofc you do |
| 20:51.23 | kenlyric | so why can't the players kill them? |
| 20:51.24 | Chompers | woo, unbugged |
| 20:51.32 | kenlyric | woot... now kill him! |
| 20:51.41 | Pucmel | kenlyric: they can, but they dont want to ... love in the air and so |
| 20:51.50 | kenlyric | so, why have rooftop campers? |
| 20:51.57 | Pucmel | ask blizzard :( |
| 20:51.57 | Cryect | not all players are quite so bright on how to get on the roofs |
| 20:52.24 | kenlyric | well, NightHawkTheSane said it was a band-aid to a bigger problem. I was wondering what the bigger problem was. |
| 20:52.39 | Cryect | that you can get on top of roofs in teh first place? |
| 20:52.40 | kenlyric | well, if you can't get on the Org bank, you've got bigger troubles. |
| 20:52.58 | Cryect | I think its more for wall jumping up on top of org |
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| 20:53.04 | Cryect | not on top of Org Bank |
| 20:53.11 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: the bigger problem jackass players thinking roof camping and ganking inside enemy towns is even remotely amusing. |
| 20:53.28 | Cryect | so blizzard needs to nerve staple those drones! |
| 20:53.32 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: not nearly as amusing as killing quest givers and flightmasters in noob zones! |
| 20:53.52 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i've kicked people from my guild for doing that. |
| 20:54.19 | Cryect | more amusing to camp the BG Queue NPC's |
| 20:54.41 | kenlyric | towns should have better protection, period. As soon as someone is attacked, the guards should swarm. |
| 20:54.55 | xyu` | they shouldnt have guards at all imo :P |
| 20:54.59 | kenlyric | that's what would happen in a real town. |
| 20:55.01 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: s/attacked/appears within 10 yards the town. |
| 20:55.02 | Cryect | They swarm too much already |
| 20:55.25 | kenlyric | also, the should all have snares. |
| 20:55.32 | NightHawkTheSane | and the basic guards should be 75 elite stealth detectors. |
| 20:55.33 | Cryect | the problem is lowbie areas is the guards are normally well low level (unless you are in the sub level 5 area) |
| 20:55.36 | kenlyric | the booty bay guards are the right way to do guards :) |
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| 20:56.00 | kenlyric | Cryect: I also don't get the point of that. Why does my quest giver have to be level 12? |
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| 20:56.31 | Cryect | design decision |
| 20:56.45 | NightHawkTheSane | a silly one, imo |
| 20:56.48 | Cryect | don't ask me why but was definately a concious decision with I'm sure reasoning behind it |
| 20:56.57 | kenlyric | if anyone can't tell, I just spent 30 minutes randomly grinding around CT in barrens because I couldn't fly away or turn in the quest I needed to go on.. :) |
| 20:57.27 | Scre3m | did the patch release today? |
| 20:57.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Scre3m: lol no. |
| 20:57.41 | stavmar | nymbia: got a sec? |
| 20:57.42 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: i feel your pain. >< |
| 20:57.44 | Punkie` | yeah it did 3 TIMES! |
| 20:57.53 | kenlyric | honestly, I rolled pve realm for a reason. i shouldn't be affected by PVP if I choose not to. |
| 20:58.05 | Chompers | yeah |
| 20:58.16 | nymbia | stavmar: sup |
| 20:58.31 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, npc griefing shouldnt even be allowed on pvp realms |
| 20:58.47 | stavmar | http://ace.pastey.net/13432 is this a PT3 error or a baggins error, nymbia |
| 20:59.04 | kenlyric | npc griefing can't get you a warning/suspension/banning. |
| 20:59.12 | kenlyric | *can |
| 20:59.14 | nymbia | stavmar: its fixed |
| 20:59.20 | Chompers | Monstrous crawler leg |
| 20:59.45 | Chompers | getting these is worse than getting the yeti horns in winterspring :/ |
| 20:59.50 | Scre3m | i wish on pve servers that the only pvp was in the BG's and that player could communicat and group across factions |
| 21:00.22 | Scre3m | or /duel |
| 21:00.22 | stavmar | nymbia: ok which version do i need, the last one i can get using the updater is 32924 |
| 21:00.27 | kenlyric | well, I understand that stuff is there from a time when there was no PVP besides random world PVP. |
| 21:00.33 | kenlyric | but those days are long gone. |
| 21:00.46 | nymbia | stavmar: it should be zipped in a few minutes |
| 21:01.00 | stavmar | nymbia: thank you |
| 21:03.14 | kenlyric | oh, and another thing! they need to remove the AQ war effort vendors already. |
| 21:03.35 | NightHawkTheSane | you mean the commendation guys? |
| 21:03.40 | kenlyric | yeah. They bug me! |
| 21:03.49 | kenlyric | their elusvie and useless blue question marks. |
| 21:03.49 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, they probably wont go anywhere |
| 21:04.14 | kenlyric | well, I know why they are there, because all realms have the same software, and realms with the gates closed need them. |
| 21:04.20 | kenlyric | but, just open all the flipping gates already. |
| 21:04.45 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r32928 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Change GetMobInfo to use string.match instead of string.find, and make it check to be sure we actually know about that mob. |
| 21:05.03 | NightHawkTheSane | well presumably they're also so that noobs who dont log on for months on end can do something with their badges or whatevr |
| 21:05.12 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 21:05.28 | kenlyric | my old account still has a badge on it. |
| 21:06.03 | kenlyric | it was sentimental. I ended the war effort turning in the last stack of bandaids. |
| 21:06.24 | kenlyric | And *I* didn't get a legendary mount for my mad npc clicking skills |
| 21:08.01 | Chompers | obviously not 'mad' enough |
| 21:08.29 | sbu | maaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 21:08.34 | sbu | gruul 11% |
| 21:09.34 | Chompers | so close :< |
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| 21:18.11 | ckknight | oh yea? well I got gruul to 10hp |
| 21:18.12 | ckknight | beat that |
| 21:18.21 | ckknight | jk though |
| 21:18.44 | Cryect | negative infinity HP to beat everyone |
| 21:19.06 | Cryect | was kinda like beating a dead horse with a stick |
| 21:21.18 | Megalon | hm |
| 21:21.23 | Megalon | Killing rats in black temple |
| 21:21.31 | Megalon | saves you to an raidid |
| 21:21.40 | Megalon | nice feature :D |
| 21:21.56 | pastamancer | nice indeed |
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| 21:25.28 | deltron | lol |
| 21:27.44 | Megalon | friend killed a rat with his wand |
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| 21:27.50 | Megalon | "You are now saved to this instance" |
| 21:27.51 | Megalon | :x |
| 21:28.49 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:29.37 | Cryect | I hope he dropped some good loot |
| 21:32.29 | ckknight | http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12 |
| 21:33.36 | deltron | heh |
| 21:33.49 | deltron | that's why you code your own stuff instead of using tools |
| 21:34.58 | ckknight | deltron: sometimes tools are good |
| 21:35.02 | ckknight | just sometimes not |
| 21:35.17 | ckknight | and in the Java world, everything is overanalyzed and overdesigned to the point where it becomes unwieldy |
| 21:35.18 | ckknight | imho |
| 21:35.50 | deltron | yeah, I worked on a team that was doing heavy java development |
| 21:35.59 | NightHawkTheSane | "And, if you want to kill your ex-girlfriend, there's really no substitute for a ball-peen hammer." so true, so true. er.. i mean. >.> |
| 21:36.03 | deltron | not coding myself |
| 21:36.10 | Cryect | Because the people who are straight to the point hate Java so don't have them there to balance out the overboard crazy people :-p |
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| 21:37.38 | yacoob | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/10/grimhorn-has-more-hp-than-you/ doh! |
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| 21:38.51 | sbu | YAYYY |
| 21:38.53 | sbu | GRUUL DOWN |
| 21:38.54 | sbu | :) |
| 21:39.39 | Amian | good evning |
| 21:40.08 | Amian | there anything known about a error message that lured into the latest build of Fubar_MicroMenuFu ? |
| 21:40.43 | Amian | MicroMenuFu.lua:207 attempt to call method CreatePluginChildFrame( a nil value ) |
| 21:41.01 | Amian | r31019 |
| 21:43.54 | Chosi | dame here |
| 21:43.57 | Chosi | *same |
| 21:44.37 | Amian | good to know |
| 21:45.01 | deltron | sbu: grats |
| 21:45.18 | sbu | nymbia |
| 21:45.36 | sbu | see query |
| 21:45.39 | sbu | dataminer crash |
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| 22:15.16 | vhaarr | Amian: Are you sure you've updated? |
| 22:15.23 | vhaarr | It should work just fine. |
| 22:18.45 | Hjalte | Amian, I'm quite sure i had that error the other day in another fubar addon |
| 22:21.00 | Amian | can update again but im rather sure i updated yesterday or this morning |
| 22:21.16 | Amian | leme run updater fast to be sure |
| 22:25.17 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32929 10Tattle/dataminer.lua: |
| 22:25.17 | CIA-11 | Tattle: |
| 22:25.17 | CIA-11 | - Maybe fix os.date('*t') missing field on some lua versions or something |
| 22:25.21 | nymbia | sbu: ^ |
| 22:25.26 | CIA-11 | 03archarodim * r32930 10Decursive/localization.lua: |
| 22:25.26 | CIA-11 | Decursive: |
| 22:25.26 | CIA-11 | - Removed misleading comments in localization.lua |
| 22:25.26 | CIA-11 | - A small sentence change to be clearer |
| 22:28.02 | NeoTron | I must say that the way BC works, the viability of alts beyond additional trade skills/gathering is diminishing |
| 22:28.06 | Amian | weee runs now updating again fixed it |
| 22:28.32 | NeoTron | meaning it's going to be almost impossible to have two toons able to progress in "end game" activities unless you have a lot of time |
| 22:29.29 | ckknight | well, filled out my tax forms |
| 22:29.31 | ckknight | lousy forms. |
| 22:29.54 | NightHawkTheSane | a little last minute, eh? |
| 22:31.40 | hyperChipmunk | a few minutes after the last, actually =p |
| 22:33.15 | ravagernl | Nymbia: Tattle?? |
| 22:33.47 | ckknight | yea, what's tattle do? |
| 22:34.08 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: not in my state |
| 22:34.09 | nymbia | its just a dataminer thus far |
| 22:34.14 | ckknight | I have till the 20th |
| 22:34.25 | nymbia | pulls spec and team rating data on arena teams |
| 22:35.02 | chuckg | nymbia, you pull said data into a database? |
| 22:35.22 | chuckg | I was thinking about writing class breakdown + spec dataminer for top 20 teams. |
| 22:35.52 | ravagernl | No toc? Or does it run with antiarc's wow tools |
| 22:36.37 | nymbia | chuckg: yeah. its got teamsize/rating/ranking, spec, and class |
| 22:36.45 | nymbia | chuckg: top 300 teams at the moment |
| 22:36.51 | nymbia | ravagernl: huh? |
| 22:36.58 | ravagernl | its not an addon |
| 22:37.01 | ravagernl | ? |
| 22:37.04 | chuckg | OF each player? |
| 22:37.05 | chuckg | That's awesome. |
| 22:37.10 | chuckg | What type of dbase are dumping into? |
| 22:37.11 | chuckg | If any? |
| 22:37.31 | sbu | lua base 36 array thing ;o |
| 22:37.32 | chuckg | Or, if you wouldn't mind sending me the script that pulls it, I'll make a web frontend. |
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| 22:38.34 | sbu | wowace -> files -> Tattle |
| 22:39.59 | nymbia | chuckg: its in trunk, dataminer.lua |
| 22:40.23 | chuckg | The *lua* is pulling the data off armory? |
| 22:40.31 | nymbia | sure |
| 22:40.55 | nymbia | pt3 miner is in straight lua too |
| 22:41.58 | ravagernl | :o so that's how you get the items |
| 22:42.17 | sbu | nymbia: i run it overnite this time - should have 2-3 more battlegroups tomorrow |
| 22:42.24 | nymbia | :) |
| 22:42.43 | ravagernl | I thought you added them all in manually lol |
| 22:43.42 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia's lying, he actually sits there for hours each day manually updating pt3. *nod* But given that he's a gnome, that's really all he's good for |
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| 22:44.05 | nymbia | that's true |
| 22:44.51 | ravagernl | So you're coding a nice trinket then :P |
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| 22:49.24 | Bibi`ouF | anyone know a mod to get the itemID of an item in game ? |
| 22:50.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Rating Buster will do it |
| 22:50.42 | ravagernl | mendeleev |
| 22:50.43 | Kemayo | Mendeleev will do it, too. |
| 22:50.53 | Bibi`ouF | thanks |
| 22:51.24 | Megalon | is there a mod that replaces the itemname with the itemid |
| 22:51.29 | Megalon | for those hardcoregeeks? :P |
| 22:51.43 | NightHawkTheSane | is there any remote reason why that would be useful? |
| 22:52.02 | pastamancer | that's right up there with binary clocks |
| 22:52.09 | Megalon | space saving! |
| 22:52.12 | NightHawkTheSane | no, binary clocks are actually kind of neat. |
| 22:52.19 | pastamancer | haha |
| 22:52.50 | JJSheets | it is now 10001:110000 |
| 22:53.16 | NightHawkTheSane | more confusing than that: http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/59e0/ |
| 22:58.04 | NeoTron | a binary click you can figure out |
| 22:58.12 | NeoTron | s/click/clock/ |
| 22:58.20 | NeoTron | an item id doesn't mean anything by itself :P |
| 22:58.58 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: /poke |
| 22:59.06 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, /peek |
| 22:59.09 | NightHawkTheSane | sure it does, it corresponds to an item. It's just another arbitrary set of symbols |
| 22:59.33 | hyperChipmunk | PI is built-in; you don't need to use 3.1415926... |
| 23:00.14 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, anything else? :) |
| 23:00.47 | hyperChipmunk | i had some errors that reloading fixed, the whole nil thingy again |
| 23:00.50 | Gnarfoz | anyone know off-hand what the vim command for undo is? |
| 23:00.55 | hyperChipmunk | u |
| 23:01.13 | hyperChipmunk | or :undo |
| 23:01.14 | Gnarfoz | quite logical |
| 23:01.19 | Gnarfoz | heh, thanks *phew* |
| 23:01.22 | hyperChipmunk | ctrl-R for redo |
| 23:01.48 | Gnarfoz | I'm forcing myself to use vim as my default editor when I'm doing stuff on my server(s), but I keep forgetting the simplest commands |
| 23:01.54 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 23:01.59 | Gnarfoz | it's awesome tho |
| 23:02.29 | JJSheets | masochist. |
| 23:02.33 | JJSheets | :p |
| 23:02.37 | hyperChipmunk | it's worth it |
| 23:03.00 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: http://www.digilife.be/quickreferences/QRC/Vi%20Reference%20Card.pdf |
| 23:03.02 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: i still can't tell at a glance when something's disabled |
| 23:03.24 | hyperChipmunk | make it like 2x darker =P |
| 23:03.35 | hyperChipmunk | do it now! |
| 23:03.41 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:03.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I prefer bbedit with "open from sftp server" |
| 23:03.51 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: ah, great. I was looking for an A4 sized one :> |
| 23:03.55 | JJSheets | but I'm working on my profiler module for Expo. |
| 23:04.08 | *** kick/#wowace [JJSheets!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (i says NOW!) |
| 23:04.14 | Gnarfoz | actually though, that's 11x8.5in xD |
| 23:04.39 | pastamancer | just scale it :p |
| 23:04.43 | NightHawkTheSane | lol, pick enough nits? |
| 23:05.16 | Gnarfoz | hm, I can't figure out, why I'd use hjkl as navigation instead of arrow-keys |
| 23:05.16 | pastamancer | there's a text-only version if you google it |
| 23:05.35 | pastamancer | because hjkl are on the home-row |
| 23:05.37 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: yes you did. :) |
| 23:05.47 | pastamancer | the arrow keys are waaaay over there ------> |
| 23:06.14 | hyperChipmunk | when you're at a keyboard w/o arrow keys, it helps |
| 23:06.26 | hyperChipmunk | when you're using dvorak, not quite so helpful =P |
| 23:06.28 | pastamancer | even in emacs, I rarely touch the arrow keys |
| 23:06.33 | Gnarfoz | I'm at a keyboard without inscriptions on the keycaps |
| 23:06.34 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:07.00 | hyperChipmunk | my keyboard has the wrong inscriptions =*( |
| 23:07.02 | Gnarfoz | I should have probably learned to correctly touch-type before getting one :D |
| 23:07.22 | Gnarfoz | yeah and I'm using the wrong layout for it, too (EU design with big fat enter key, using the US layout) |
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| 23:08.10 | CIA-11 | 03jjsheets * r32931 10InfiniBar/ (IB_Core.lua IB_Standard.lua): InfiniBar - Darkened up the Unusable Action color. Added program support (tho not yet GUI support) for taking over the pet bar. Drycoded per button dragging of the special buttons (bagbars, menu, and pet bars.) |
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| 23:09.24 | hyperChipmunk | wb =D |
| 23:09.36 | JJSheets | :p |
| 23:11.10 | hyperChipmunk | bah, it was in core |
| 23:11.16 | hyperChipmunk | no wonder i couldn't fid it |
| 23:11.35 | hyperChipmunk | muuuuuuch better |
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| 23:15.46 | NeoTron | JJSheets: I figured out how to get the keyboard shortcut to show on IB last night |
| 23:16.08 | JJSheets | should just be [key] in one of the text subs. |
| 23:16.09 | NeoTron | any chance of getting Ctrl-Alt-1 be shown as C-A-1 or some shortcut rather than Ctrl-Alt-1? :P |
| 23:16.19 | JJSheets | NeoTron, it's on the todo list. :) |
| 23:16.30 | NeoTron | it's 5 times as wide as the button :-P |
| 23:16.59 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:17.06 | NeoTron | I think I've figured out how to configure it. it's a bit tricky |
| 23:17.24 | NeoTron | some reasonble defaults (button spacing) would be nice (took a while to figure out the buttons were there, just with no spacing) |
| 23:18.06 | NeoTron | my goal was to use it to play someone elses character (when needed) without messing up his toolbar |
| 23:18.06 | sbu | meeeh |
| 23:18.08 | sbu | need arena points |
| 23:18.15 | sbu | *waiting* |
| 23:18.56 | NeoTron | I'm happy |
| 23:19.01 | NeoTron | not going to Karazhan today |
| 23:19.04 | NeoTron | whee. a day off! |
| 23:20.34 | sbu | last week they awarded points at 0:00 |
| 23:20.39 | sbu | now its 1:20 :/ |
| 23:20.44 | sbu | and still no points |
| 23:23.22 | NightHawkTheSane | sbu: its like a watched pot. |
| 23:23.35 | NightHawkTheSane | And by that, I mean blizzard is watching you. They wont award points until you go away. :P |
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| 23:23.42 | sbu | hmm |
| 23:25.00 | Arrowmaster | i thought points always messed up if you were logged in when they got awarded |
| 23:26.09 | sbu | no idea |
| 23:27.38 | NeoTron | I want my consortium gems |
| 23:27.41 | sbu | nymbia |
| 23:27.42 | sbu | !!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.46 | NeoTron | Haven't gotten revered for nothing |
| 23:28.03 | NeoTron | I can't wait to see how my addons performa nd remove the worst crud |
| 23:28.32 | nymbia | sbu: why'd you break it?? |
| 23:28.48 | sbu | it was Mikma |
| 23:28.58 | Mikma | yeah |
| 23:29.03 | Mikma | i like borking your addons |
| 23:29.12 | Mikma | i like to see people cry like pansies |
| 23:29.28 | sbu | so i need hour or 0, day or 0 and year or 0 as well? |
| 23:29.56 | JJSheets | Mikma, lol |
| 23:29.58 | sbu | ok |
| 23:30.09 | sbu | hour - no need for day/year i guess |
| 23:30.21 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32932 10Tattle/dataminer.lua: Tattle: Probably actually fix date thing. |
| 23:30.23 | nymbia | sbu: there |
| 23:30.34 | nymbia | my fault ;) |
| 23:32.03 | sbu | uhm - why printing key/values? |
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| 23:33.14 | kaiden | hrm, sure would be nice to see a border texture called "Square" for eePanels wonder how hard that would be to do to just make a square border that took on the border color exactly |
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| 23:33.27 | sbu | k, running, nite then |
| 23:33.28 | nymbia | sbu: just makin sure ;) |
| 23:33.56 | JJSheets | anybody online that's using or tested my Expo addon? |
| 23:34.24 | nymbia | i've been meaning to >.> |
| 23:34.43 | JJSheets | nymbia, I'm adding a profiling module to it, thanks to ckknight. :) |
| 23:34.53 | ckknight | hey all |
| 23:35.07 | nymbia | oshit |
| 23:35.22 | nymbia | very nice JJSheets |
| 23:35.24 | JJSheets | speaking of... ckknight, thanks for letting me use your profiling code... it's kickass. :) |
| 23:35.24 | Chompers | hello |
| 23:35.37 | ckknight | JJSheets: :-) |
| 23:35.54 | Hjalte | JJSheets, does it do anything interesting for non-developers? :) |
| 23:35.56 | ckknight | JJSheets: it's nice, but I recommend having a toggle to turn it on/off |
| 23:36.05 | ckknight | like how PitBull has |
| 23:36.23 | hyperChipmunk | you mean the profiling code of choppy doom? |
| 23:36.52 | kaiden | Would anyone happen to have a texture that is just a 1 pixel border sorta like UI-Tooltip-Border that's just flat and square? |
| 23:37.25 | JJSheets | ckknight, I've designed it to be capable of unwrapping code too. in addition, it's granular... I can tell it to profile AceLibrary("IBInfiniBar-1.0").prototype and have it profile the entire class. |
| 23:37.46 | ckknight | k |
| 23:38.05 | JJSheets | it's not bad on memory usage either... except the initial hit. |
| 23:38.06 | nymbia | well |
| 23:38.24 | nymbia | would you really want to put too much effort into it with 2.0 just around the corner? |
| 23:38.33 | nymbia | er 2.1 |
| 23:38.37 | JJSheets | I don't like 2.1.0's profiling system. |
| 23:38.43 | nymbia | why? |
| 23:39.01 | JJSheets | it requires a /rl, and can't target specifics, it profiles EVERYTHING. |
| 23:39.01 | FrostByghte | ckknight: I was wondering if all the frames will eventually get the ability to sort both Buff/Debuff direction like the players pet, and target's target frames? |
| 23:39.08 | FrostByghte | er with Pitbull |
| 23:39.26 | ckknight | FrostByghte: surprised the option isn't there already |
| 23:39.31 | ckknight | I don't really handle the Aura module |
| 23:40.26 | FrostByghte | ah okie...yes it's only available for some frames...I didn't notice it until this recent update. Primarily my debuffs are starting on the right side and I can't seem to figure out a way to start them on the left under the buffs :) |
| 23:41.43 | nymbia | ckknight: they're there, the options are just different depending on if the frames are split or not |
| 23:42.14 | Chompers | i got a few friends to swap over to PitBull today, it was great to hear their reaction to turning on raid configuration mode |
| 23:42.29 | Chompers | "oh jesus theres frames everywhere i cant see a thing" |
| 23:42.49 | FrostByghte | nymbia: I'll check it out |
| 23:47.01 | FrostByghte | nymbia: I see them! the issue I'm having though is I would like to have 2 rows of buffs and then 2 rows of debuffs under the target frame. If I don't split the rows they overlap each other. If I split them, then my debuffs start on the right side and not the left. |
| 23:47.40 | nymbia | change the growth direction |
| 23:47.45 | nymbia | Galka: sup? (not id'd) |
| 23:49.00 | FrostByghte | that doesn't seem to have an affect on where the 1st debuff is drawn |
| 23:50.32 | ckknight | Chompers: lol |
| 23:51.04 | Chompers | ck, you've deffo packed in alot of options...everywhere |
| 23:51.36 | nymbia | Galka: depends if you've got stuff using the old ones -- but there's not too many of those anymore. delete 'em and see ;) |
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| 23:59.06 | Amadeo | bah, I really gotta get rid of AutoBar, I can't stand the lag |
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