IRC log for #wowace on 20070413

00:00.42CIA-1103jjsheets * r32501 10InfiniBar/ (IB_Core.lua IB_Standard.lua): InfiniBar - Profile system is working. Added Text Sub Caching system to support DrDamage more correctly. Fixed compare to nil bugs occurring in the cooldown code.
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00:01.26Amadeohm, Firefox crashed, told me where it put the crash log...and the file isn't there
00:01.44NightHawkTheSaneit's a TRAP!
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00:02.22KemayoKirkburn: Not counting stuff I'm getting from SVN, I had a mere 52 updated addons since last tuesday...
00:02.36KirkburnSo few!
00:02.39JJSheetsNo!  It's a WALKING CATFISH!
00:03.21NightHawkTheSaneyour mom is a walking catfish
00:03.29KirkburnNo you
00:03.36JJSheetsyou love the your mom jokes, huh?  :)
00:03.54Gnarfozthey always fit
00:03.55ckknightyour mom loves your mom jokes
00:03.56NightHawkTheSaneOh, I can do worse, if you like.
00:05.23ckknightJJSheets: AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):RegisterAllEvents(function(...) AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0").currentEvent, ...) end)
00:05.25ckknightdone.
00:05.32JJSheetsckknight, I hate event spam.
00:05.34JJSheetslol
00:05.50Gnarfozckknight: anything against changing the default green shade for 'friendly' (by hostility coloring) to the same shade as 'full health' (by health % shading)? player frames next to target frames (that have a friendly targetted) would look nicer (they're both green anyway, no need to have different shades, right?) :)
00:05.57ckknightyes
00:06.24ckknightbasically, the bright green doesn't look the nicest for hostility coloring
00:06.26ckknighttoo vibrant
00:06.37ckknightand doing the health gradient on nonstandard values is complex
00:06.51GnarfozI see =)
00:07.11Gnarfozback to transferring color values in SVs then :\
00:07.51cladhaireckknight: Tekkub has a good gradient function.. made it really easy to transition from class color to red
00:07.54CIA-1103ckknight * r32502 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix raid faker to work nicely with class groupings.
00:07.55cladhairebut was hella confusing =)
00:08.09ckknightcladhaire: link?
00:08.33cladhairehttp://www.wowwiki.com/ColorGradient
00:09.09cladhaireit was just tough, because the healthbars would be a rainbow at 50%
00:09.24CIA-1103rabbit * r32503 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Create the frames on demand.
00:11.01KirkburnI should set up a bot that makes me say "YAY!" every time someone links the wiki
00:11.23KirkburnActually, random Family Guy and American Dad! quotes would be cooler
00:12.20ZealotOnAStickHas anyone tried Niagara with Grid?
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00:12.46CIA-1103rabbit * r32504 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Bugfix.
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00:18.12CIA-1103ckknight * r32505 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - bugfix, which should make raid frames properly hide
00:18.50CIA-1103jjsheets * r32506 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - Fixed compare to nil bug on line 1573 of IB_Standard.lua.
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00:26.06CIA-1103ckknight * r32507 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - bugfix, also, only initializes parties on FullyInitialized.
00:27.47nymbia[Ammo]: ping
00:31.43CIA-1103roartindon * r32508 10Aloft/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
00:31.43CIA-11Aloft
00:31.43CIA-11- Brand new data dependency graph system will only enable data modules if they're required, and will call them in the correct order if they too are dependent upon other data sources
00:31.43CIA-11- Added color by class option to Name Text
00:31.43CIA-11- Separated guild logic out of Visibility into IsGuildMemberData module
00:33.22Bibi`ouFanyone playing on US servers here ?
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00:34.07hyperChipmunkno, everyone here is cuban
00:34.28Bibi`ouFoh. sad. :(
00:34.32NightHawkTheSane¡si!
00:34.35Bibi`ouFanyway, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr/ up or not ?
00:34.52hyperChipmunkit's test.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr
00:34.59hyperChipmunkwell, that one's up too
00:35.12hyperChipmunkbut it's still 2.0.12
00:35.16Bibi`ouFtalking about the download servers ^^
00:35.47kergoth~emulate peter
00:35.58purlNow, I know you're a feminist, and I think that's adorable, but this is grown-up time and I'm the man.
00:36.26JJSheetsheheh
00:38.07Arilawhahahaha
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00:42.48unduCan you hide pet nameplates with the default blizzard ui?
00:43.55chutwigwhoa
00:44.06chutwigi got moved into a new group and pitbull freaked out and made my buff icons huge
00:46.06kergoth~emulate chris
00:46.20purlI'm so hungry I could ride a horse. I don't get it. Well, I could ride it to the store, I guess.
00:47.17Roartindonundu: No, but it's a feature planned for Aloft in the very very near futue
00:47.19Roartindonfuture*
00:47.24unduCool.
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00:49.24vodrinis there a varible for nameplate distance?
00:49.33hyperChipmunkheh
00:49.53vodrinala tab targetting distance etc.
00:49.55hyperChipmunkthat'd pretty much break any notion of not being able to measure distance with an addon
00:50.20vhaarrindeed
00:50.22vodrinmmm true =<
00:50.29Heriohmm
00:50.36Herionot really..
00:51.32Herioif you want to get the distence to a unit, you'd have it
00:51.37Heriouh
00:52.20unduI guess it would, but wouldn't that mean switching the value around alot for each mob/unit you want range for, potentially causing alot of lag.
00:52.26Herioto the the yard precision would require like 2*d/fps seconds to get the distence
00:52.43HerioI get 8fps lawl
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00:53.52Heriohttp://www.wowwiki.com/Config.wtf_defaults
00:54.11Herioundu: "PetNamePLates" = "0"
00:54.16hyperChipmunkpoint is, it could be done
00:54.46unduThat's funny, blizzard must've removed it from the interface options screen. I remembered seeing something like that way back. But now it's not there.
00:55.52vodrinUberTooltips
00:55.53vodrinha
00:55.55hyperChipmunkthere was
00:56.01hyperChipmunkmaybe just if you're a pet class
00:56.12HerioUberTooltips?
00:56.26vodrinwas in the config.wtf list linked to
00:56.33unduI guess, but that would be stupid. Unless it only worked for your own pet.
00:56.44Herioah
00:57.02vodrini thought that interface options part for the pet name plates , was pet frames for party or something
00:57.07vodrinthe one that was removed
00:57.38unduMight be.
00:57.52sergio_there was definately an option for pet nameplates
00:57.59sergio_i remember using it for totems
00:58.29vodrink
00:58.43Andunepitbull seems a bit whacky lately.  When I first logged in, all the party frames were tiny.  I adjusted them all to normal.  Now I reloaded my UI and they're really big.
00:58.54vodrintrickzzz
00:59.00Anduneany idea what could be causing that?
00:59.06JJSheetsyou must have downloaded the wozrd of Oz-bull
00:59.15JJSheetss/wozrd/wizard/
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01:00.25kenlyricthat would be the alice in wonderland-bull\
01:00.42JJSheetsO.o  I hate it when you're right and I'm wrong.
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01:01.55Cyrezckknight: I've been having this funky PitBull bug and IDK if it's been fixed yet because I can't willingly, eh, trigger it. Every now and then, when I'm using the config mode and moving frames around, one gets stuck on the cursor and I can't drop it. I can't click on anything in the UI, either, so I have to do a "/console reloadui".
01:02.13unduSame here.
01:02.35CyrezBugger, he's not here. ><
01:02.42JJSheetslol
01:02.51CyrezBut, yeah, that's annoying.
01:03.39Garoun|Loupanathat's because whatever you had selected went out of range and you lost target
01:03.51vodrinremember that happening in aguf too
01:03.53Garoun|Loupanaat least all of your stuff doesn't randomly dissapear :P
01:03.58vodrinwas quite annoying ^_^
01:04.06Garoun|LoupanaI think itwas mentioned earlierthat it is a blizz bug
01:11.15Galka"at least all of your stuff doesn't randomly dissapear :P"  As of rev 32507 I no longer have PitBull unitframes :/
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01:15.48PHL-Chuck[2007/04/12 21:02:38-51-x1]: PitBull-r32505\PitBull.lua:286: attempt to index local 'unit' (a nil value)
01:15.49PHL-Chuck<in C code>: ?
01:15.51PHL-ChuckAceEvent-2.0-30806 (Ace2):251: in function `TriggerEvent'
01:15.52PHL-ChuckAceEvent-2.0-30806 (Ace2):997: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:990>
01:15.54PHL-Chuckcry
01:17.34Galkanod, same error
01:17.44PHL-Chuckphew thought it was just me
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01:19.19HedleyLamarrwould someone be able to help me with cartographer please?
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01:22.02DiaoWhat do you need?
01:25.14DiaoHmm
01:25.28DiaoI have no experience in graphics programming and the DreamBuff code confuses me :(
01:31.28chutwigyeah there is something really fucked up with pitbull tonight
01:31.37chutwigscattering graphics and bars all over my screen
01:31.47PHL-Chuckthat was last night for me
01:31.53PHL-Chucktoday it wont load
01:32.08chutwigchecking to see if something new got pushed to files
01:32.10chutwighmm, update
01:32.10GalkaSame here PHL, it wont initiate
01:32.26chutwigreloading now to see if it blows up
01:32.32Galkaraiding with the default blizzard frames atm T_T
01:32.38PHL-Chuckhehe
01:33.22chutwigi think i'll spec my paladin prot for shits and giggles
01:33.45chutwigokay for the moment pitbull is not freaking out
01:33.47chutwigpositive sign
01:37.15CIA-1103nymbia * r32509 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua:
01:37.15CIA-11PitBull_Aura:
01:37.15CIA-11- Don't apply the alpha from the debuff color to the debuff highlight.
01:38.38PProvostThanks vhaarr :)
01:38.53PProvostWho's a good contact for a Grid question?
01:38.58PProvostDev not usage
01:39.13vhaarrpastamancer
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01:42.33StarfuryThere seems to be some issue with the latest mobhealth3, I was getting an error from ag_UF for getunithealth, I went back to an older version of MH3 and now it works fine
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01:48.15pastamancervhaarr
01:48.31pastamanceroh, heh
01:48.33Mikmackknight: how is the "snap" supposed to work in Auras (PitBull)?
01:48.35pastamancerPProvost!
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01:49.05PProvosthey pastamancer... gotta put kids to bed...  I'll ping back later.
01:49.57DiaoHmm
01:50.12ckknightMikma: no idea
01:50.18DiaoDoes cyCircled work in a similar way to DreamBuff?
01:50.19ckknightin class now
01:50.23ckknightfrankly, it's kinda lame
01:50.33Mikmaclass or snap
01:51.11CyrezI just got a nice "I don't think I'm supposed to be here" screenie. ^^
01:51.14Cyrezhttp://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041207184824cg0.jpg
01:52.09CyrezGotta love Slow Fall.
01:52.22Mikmaexplorer! reported!
01:52.30Starfuryi can't figure out what is diff in the latest mobhealth3 that is causing an issue with ag_UF
01:52.46CyrezGet PitBull, lol.
01:53.28Heriocyrez, where is that?
01:53.42CyrezPitBull was made because of a certain coder being annoyed with some things about ag_UF.
01:53.49CyrezIt's another Ace2 addon.
01:53.56hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
01:54.02CyrezOh, that...
01:54.11Starfurywhats diff between pitbull and ag_UF?
01:54.21CyrezIn between Stonetalon Mountains and Desolace.
01:54.27Heriopitbull is new!
01:54.33CyrezAnd modular.
01:54.40Herioanyone else know where to jump out of karazhan? =P
01:55.02hyperChipmunki was gonna guess ashenvale/barrens; close! =)
01:55.37CyrezLove the texturing. You should see the minimap, lol.
01:55.48hyperChipmunkyea i know
01:56.32CyrezI'm tempted to jump and take another at the bottom.
01:58.13CyrezShould I? :-P
01:58.47NightHawkTheSanedoooooo iiiiit!
01:58.53Mikmano
01:59.02Mikmamake a gm ticket telling you're stuck
01:59.37Heriothey should go back over azeroth and pretty up those places so we can use our flying mounts =P
01:59.51CyrezI'm not stuck at all... I can teleport. ^^
01:59.56DiaoSo I looked through cyCircled and DreamBuff and they seem to do similar stuff o.O
02:00.15hyperChipmunktell 'em you don't want to waste the mana
02:00.20MikmaDiao: not quite
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02:01.28Cyrezhttp://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041207185928zq6.jpg
02:01.48kergothum
02:01.54kergothhow the hell do i disable party grouping in pitbull now?
02:01.58kergoththe option isnt where it was
02:02.27Mikmakergoth: true, it's missing
02:02.44kergothwtf
02:02.47kergothckknight: poke
02:02.52hyperChipmunkmebee it's on vacation
02:03.08hyperChipmunkoh hey
02:03.15hyperChipmunkbut the spacing works now
02:03.19hyperChipmunkso they line up at the top
02:03.24JoshBorkekergoth: it's alpha, get over it :-P
02:03.54kergoth:( it worked flawlessly before, now my ui looks all hosed
02:04.16hyperChipmunkugh, i got put into combat in config mode and now my mouse does'n work
02:04.33kergothhmm, with his new setup maybe i have to manually add party1-5
02:04.39kergothand set party to hidden
02:04.55Starfuryanyone know how i could figure out which addon is causing this error "Error: stack overflow string: interface\framexml\basiccontrols.xml:<script..."
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02:05.54kergothnaturally trying to add party1 doesnt do anything
02:05.55kergothhmm
02:07.07Starfuryi'd rather figure out whats wrong with mobhealth thats causing the ag_UF issue than just switch to some new unitframes
02:07.22hyperChipmunki don't care; my multi-sized frames line up with the same spacing set now, so i'm happy
02:07.49ZealotOnAStickI have latest mobhealth and latest agUF, and I'm not gettting any issues.  Is there some specific unusual tag you're using?
02:07.58JoshBorkeStarfury: are you using buggrabber/bugsack?
02:09.01Starfuryno, i tried it recently and it dropped my fps to 1
02:09.31ZealotOnAStickuhm, if buggrabber and sack are dropping your fps, then you have something -seriously- whacked.  They're not the cause, they're just exposing the problem.
02:09.46JoshBorkeStarfury: well that doesn't seem right.  try grabbing ImprovedErrorFrames
02:12.13kergothckknight: how do i go about either breaking up the party unitcluster so i can move them independently, or creating more unitframes for each party member?
02:12.13Starfuryi do have that
02:14.18JoshBorkeStarfury: then you don't need both
02:14.30JoshBorkeyou either need IEF or buggrabber/bugsack
02:14.49cladhaireLightHeaded and TomTom have been updated: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=50889#post50889
02:14.59cladhairethis version should work with nQuestLog (if the support is still there)
02:15.08cladhaireand there's an API to get comments, so other quest logs can use it.
02:15.18cladhaireclicking on coordinates in LightHeaded will send them to TomTom by default.
02:15.35StarfuryJosh_Borke, the error it comes up with is Interface\Addons\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:652:attempt to call method
02:15.35Starfury'GetUnitHealth' (a nil value)
02:19.11MorghusOooh. Nice. PerfectRaid's been my mainstay since I discovered it
02:19.29cladhairenot much changed
02:19.36cladhairelike anything, except for a bugfix
02:19.55cladhairebut i needed to release an update due to TomTom LightHeaded, I had some stupid compat code in PerfectRaid, otherwise it would work fine
02:22.00MorghusWhat are your plans for PerfectRaid? Right now it looks pretty solid in it's "simplicity".
02:22.13cladhaireneed to get the rest of the features added in
02:22.20cladhairethen try and give it to someone else
02:23.04MorghusOh. What're the other features you intend to add? ( and why would you want to "get rid of it"? )
02:25.37cladhairetime, primarily
02:25.42cladhaireunless it gets to a point of maintenance.
02:25.43hyperChipmunkbecause writing addons is fun
02:25.50hyperChipmunkmaintaining addons is suck
02:25.53cladhairemouseover textures needs to be added, highlights for debuffs, etc.
02:25.59cladhairehyperChipmunk: Nah, the issue is really PerfectRaid
02:26.02cladhaireits just.. odd
02:26.05cladhaireand I don't like it
02:26.08cladhaireI just like using it =/
02:26.26hyperChipmunkhehe
02:26.51cladhaireim _hopeful_ that in the next month or so I might have some time
02:27.43kergothcladhaire: quck question, does tomtom have a tooltip for its world map note thingamabob yet?
02:27.57cladhaireyes it does
02:28.23cladhairekergoth: and if you have any suggestions for how to add the "over the head" arrow, i.e. WHAT waypoint it directs you to... I'm considering adding that.
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02:30.37Garoun|Loupanahmm anyone else having  pitbull flicker hidden frames for like a split second every so often?
02:30.59Garoun|Loupanar32492
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02:32.38Morghuscladhaire: Oooh. Sounds like neatness abounds. One thing though, would it be a possible/easy thing to add that textures themselves change on i.e. out of range?
02:32.52ckknighthey all
02:32.57MorghusHeya ckk
02:33.01ckknightkergoth: um, no current way to break up the unit cluster. Haven't really figured that out :-(
02:33.49MorghusGaroun|Loupana: ckknight is here now. He can help =)
02:33.54hyperChipmunkckk sez "it's fine l2p"
02:34.00JJSheetshah
02:34.07ckknighthrm?
02:34.07hyperChipmunkvisor ftw?
02:34.08cladhaireMorghus: Out of range already exists right now
02:34.16cladhairekergoth: PING did you get my response?
02:34.36MorghusYes, but as texture-change instead of fading ( or other status-changes )
02:35.02cladhaireah, its possible
02:35.10cladhairei'd be interested in hearing what you propose.
02:36.43kergothcladhaire: yeah i got it, i'll think about it
02:36.48kergothckknight: hmm, okay. :\
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02:37.12ckknightkergoth: you could use the spacing and the growth direction maybe
02:37.57ckknightkergoth: but I haven't figured out a way to make the frames both be handled by the secure party header as well as having the whole freeform movement
02:38.04ckknightdon't think it's possible
02:38.05Morghuscladhaire: In a raid-environment a simple fadeout can be hard to spot, or it fades too much ( depending on where you are ) and I thought textural change would be neat. Normal green gloss for "All ok", and ... LiteStep for Out of Range.
02:39.02cladhairehrm.. its possible
02:39.02cladhairei'd have to write a new framework to make it happen
02:39.03cladhairealright folks, I've got to go to the bed.
02:39.03MorghusThat sounds like alot of work :o
02:39.03Garoun|Loupanasorry was killing executioners by murmur
02:39.03MorghusDon't want you to do more than necessary:P
02:39.05Garoun|Loupanarepost: hmm anyone else having  pitbull flicker hidden frames for like a split second every so often?
02:39.06MorghusGood night :)
02:39.11Garoun|Loupanarepost: r32492
02:40.41ckknightGaroun|Loupana: when does it happen?
02:42.51Garoun|Loupanaanytime I'm in combat
02:43.15Garoun|Loupanaespecially during fights were I'm in a lot of combat
02:43.22Bibi`ouF2.1.0 official patch notes http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=93.0
02:43.40Garoun|LoupanaI wont' have any target at all and I'll see like a torn frame image for half a second
02:43.49MorghusOooh, thanks Bibi`ouF!
02:44.19Garoun|Loupanahappens primarily on TargetFrame, TargetofTarget
02:44.29Garoun|Loupanaand PartyTArgets
02:44.58hyperChipmunkjpg screenshots
02:44.59hyperChipmunkwtf
02:45.09hyperChipmunkwhat's wrong with pngs
02:45.19hyperChipmunkon macs, they even get to choose the format
02:45.28Garoun|Loupanathere it jsut did it again
02:45.30clad|sleepdo we?
02:45.33JoshBorkei hope this is true: Screenshots captured using the Print Screen key are now saved in JPG
02:45.34JoshBorke   format.
02:45.35clad|sleephyperChipmunk: how do we choose?
02:45.40hyperChipmunkyea, it's in Config.wtf
02:45.49clad|sleepzomg gief
02:45.56hyperChipmunkSET screenshotFormat "png"
02:46.12kergothgoddamnit
02:46.15kergothjust got the pitbull drag bug
02:46.21kergothunitframes stuck to my cursor
02:46.44clad|sleephyperChipmunk: thanks =)
02:46.53clad|sleepnight all
02:46.59Heri1WTF
02:47.09Heri1no boots of fortelling buff?
02:48.00hyperChipmunknice, they took kill command off global c/d
02:48.05hyperChipmunkand fixed readiness $
02:48.24JoshBorkeHOLY SHIT
02:48.30JoshBorkeanyone else see the paladin changes?
02:48.36JoshBorkeillumination only returns 50%
02:48.59hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
02:49.06JoshBorkerofl
02:49.38JoshBorkewow, paladins got hit with a nerf stick
02:50.17hyperChipmunkgod that's a lot of changes
02:50.24ckknighthyperChipmunk: link?
02:50.38JoshBorkei can't believe that.  paladin tanking was hit hard.  paladin healing was hit hard
02:50.38Bibi`ouFhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=93.0
02:50.55hyperChipmunk-  Warlock and Hunter pets will now be automatically dismissed when you summon a mount. These pets will return on dismount. This does not affect pet happiness for Hunters.
02:51.00hyperChipmunkyay
02:51.06ckknightkergoth: any idea on how to prevent that?
02:52.59clad|sleepkergoth: you can write an OnHide() script for your frames that runs StopMovingOrSizing() if the frame is moving, if that's what you're asking
02:53.02CIA-1103jjsheets * r32510 10InfiniBar/ (IB_Core.lua IB_Standard.lua): InfiniBar - Fixed Spell cast indicator, channeling cast indicator, range indicator, macro icon updating, and text sub cache.
02:53.06clad|sleepthat's the typical way to handle the sticking issue.
02:53.52ckknightclad|sleep: that's what I'm trying now
02:54.07JJSheetsclad|sleep, go to sleep.  :p
02:54.09clad|sleepckknight: its a good way to handle it, i typically do self.moving = true in the drag handler
02:54.12clad|sleepJJSheets: yeah, yeah
02:54.24JJSheetsnot that we don't love you being here or anything.  :)
02:54.46ckknightkergoth: hrm?
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02:55.02DiaoHm
02:55.11hyperChipmunk-  "Primal Nethers" may now be purchased from G'eras for "Badges of Justice".
02:55.14Diao40 hours to grind scryer exalted rep and then switch to aldor and grind them to exalted
02:55.17hyperChipmunkeeenteresting
02:55.55JJSheetshyperChipmunk, you testing InfiniBar, or drooling over patch notes?  :)
02:56.23NightHawkTheSanehe can do both!
02:56.29JJSheetslol
02:56.36JJSheetsI don't doubt it.  :)
02:56.44hyperChipmunkwhat's infinibar?
02:56.53JJSheets; ;
02:57.00hyperChipmunki'm still waiting for you to fix range coloring
02:57.03JJSheetsdone
02:57.05JJSheetstest
02:57.26JJSheetsgo forth and testify
02:58.08kergothckknight: http://gallery.kergoth.com/wow/crazypitbull
02:58.25ckknighthehe
02:58.31ckknightcrown!
02:59.47kergothhehe
03:00.45ckknightwould it be better to be a pally or a priest?
03:00.55kergothhmm, i should add a [rep2] tag to xpbarnone, like the Rep2 addon
03:01.27ckknightwhat'd it do?
03:02.37kergothit just altered the rep gain chat message stating how many more of that rep amount you need to hit the next rep thingy, i.e. 760 to revered
03:02.40kergothuseful
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03:03.58CIA-1103ckknight * r32511 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - stop moving or sizing on frame hide.
03:04.59hyperChipmunkJJSheets: seems okay
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03:06.09JJSheetsI'll be working on the code to gray out noncombat spells when in combat, etc. tomorrow...
03:06.19hyperChipmunkcombat s...loser
03:06.32JJSheetsfor now... I go to get dinner... later.  :)
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03:08.06kergothwhats the best camp in nagrand to farm ogre warbeads?
03:08.33DiaoHm
03:08.46JoshBorkekergoth: mines are nice if you're a miner
03:08.59DiaoWould you guys rather kill 8000 monsters and get exalted rep with 2 factions and end up with all the gold from killing all those monsters
03:09.18JoshBorkeDiao: why would you do that to yourself?
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03:09.29Diaoor kill 4000 and get exalted with 1 faction and then buy the rest of the items using the gold you earned from killing those 4000 to buy the items needed for the other faction
03:09.42hyperChipmunkkergoth: i did mine in the tunnels
03:09.43JoshBorkekill the 8000
03:09.50hyperChipmunkin the bottom of the valley
03:09.52Diaohmm k
03:10.02DiaoAnd JoshBorke
03:10.06JoshBorkekergoth: you're pretty much screwed.  send me all your netherweave
03:10.09DiaoI'm going to grind my way to scryer exalted
03:10.11kergothhehe
03:10.19Diaoand then switching factions
03:10.20Diaoto aldor
03:10.23Diaoand getting exalted with them
03:10.25JoshBorkediao:  why?
03:10.29kergoththats what i was thinking, at least doing this i wont run out of bandages anytime soon
03:10.33DiaoI want all the blacksmithing plans
03:10.34Diao:P
03:10.48JoshBorketo each his own i suppose
03:10.49Heri1spiderman 3 is gonna suck
03:10.50JoshBorkeanyway, night all
03:11.05Heri1they made the gob's vehicle some sort of board
03:11.08ckknightwell, cya all, I have class
03:11.12Heri1CAUSE IT'S XCORE
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03:17.39ZealotOnAStickOooh.
03:17.39Heri1back so soon?
03:17.44ZealotOnAStickNifty, Aloft has a combo point indicator.
03:17.59Heri15 mins to get to class and log in? =P
03:18.00ckknightHeri1: in class now
03:18.23FISKER_Qso PTR up?
03:19.06KarlThePagancharacter copy is ... BUSY
03:19.07KarlThePaganlol
03:20.06hyperChipmunkhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/ptr-downloader-enUS.html
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03:21.30vhaarr"-  Fixed a grammatical error in the quest, "The Ring of Mmmrrrggglll"."
03:21.31vhaarrlol
03:22.05WobWorkheheh
03:22.27WobWorkI wish I could commit here =\
03:22.40WobWorkI've basically drycoded MrPlow =P
03:22.51WobWorkAnd I have no idea if it'll work =P
03:23.02hyperChipmunkO_o
03:23.11WobWorkI have no interweb at home yet
03:23.11vhaarr"The Scrap Reaver X6000 from the quest, "You, Robot", no longer has its "Repair" ability." haha
03:23.24WobWorkuntil they get back to me about adsl2+
03:23.29NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: hahahah
03:23.40WobWorkand there's some weird proxying at work, which prevents me from committing to svn
03:23.49NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: i was wondering how long until they did that.
03:23.54vhaarrindeed
03:24.02vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: it's funny because in beta the heal was insane, then they nerfed it like 2 times already
03:24.09vhaarrand now it's gone, lol
03:24.15NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: yeah, i know. :P
03:24.25FISKER_Q-  Using abilities and casting spells that cannot be used while mounted
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03:24.34FISKER_Qone billion dollars that this unintendedly works on flying
03:24.46WobWorkWAI
03:24.46vhaarr:P
03:24.48Megalon:D
03:25.00GngskI hope it works on flying
03:25.06Gngskif it doesn't I'll be upset
03:25.08vhaarr""Whispers of the Raven God": Understanding Ravenspeech will now hit players at range." - now I know why my hunter friend was crying and screaming on this quest for 3 hours straight
03:25.14NightHawkTheSaneFISKER_Q: 2 billion that it does, AND that it's intended. :D
03:25.26FISKER_Qheh
03:25.44FISKER_QGonna find a new class to reroll too
03:25.51FISKER_Qs/too/to
03:27.36NightHawkTheSanewhere are you reading those anywya?
03:28.35vhaarrhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=93.0
03:28.46NightHawkTheSanethanks
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03:30.34vhaarrjesus christ, talk about fucking over-nerfing heroic dungeons
03:30.49Bibi`ouFhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=94.0 , screenshots added :p
03:31.45FISKER_Qhehe vhaarr yeah i was like wtf
03:31.51FISKER_QI thought ramparts was the easiest heroic
03:31.58FISKER_Qbut people tell me it's one of the hardest
03:32.22NightHawkTheSaneramp isnt that hard on heroic as a whole.
03:32.29NightHawkTheSaneomor is a pita if you brought melee.
03:33.06FISKER_Qthe dragon though :o
03:33.09FISKER_Qpretty annoying
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03:33.35NightHawkTheSanea little. couple times i did it i didnt have much problem, but i just tossed on some of my old FR gear
03:33.51FISKER_Qgotta go to school though :P
03:33.59FISKER_Qjust gotta copy the ptr over so i can play in school ;D
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03:34.41CIA-11Aloft
03:34.41CIA-11- Added check to ClassData to avoid nil problems when data hasn't loaded in yet
03:34.41CIA-11- NameText no longer depends on any data if it isn't visible
03:34.41CIA-11- Unitid data source separated out
03:34.41CIA-11- IsPet data source added
03:34.43CIA-11- ClassData now updates from targets
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03:35.09DiaoOMG
03:35.15DiaoAfter 682 kills of spell-thieves
03:35.19DiaoI finally got the formula -.-
03:35.23Roartindon_Diao: Grats :)
03:35.24FISKER_Qgot mine after 2
03:35.30NightHawkTheSaneDiao: which formula?
03:35.39Diao40 spelldamage to weapon
03:35.40Diao@_@
03:35.56NightHawkTheSaneThis one..? " Enchant Weapon- "Major Spellpower" enchant has been stolen from the
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03:36.02NightHawkTheSanewow, that formatted badly, *shrug*
03:36.07Diaoya
03:37.27vhaarrwhat the .. they nerfed romulo *again*
03:37.49NightHawkTheSaneagain? i hadnt fought him again after the first nerf..
03:38.01NightHawkTheSanewonder how easy it i'll be now
03:38.36vhaarr"   Terestian Illhoof will no longer sacrifice his primary target.", yeah, we were wondering why he did that
03:38.48vhaarrnot that it was a problem since the rogue just pops evasion, but
03:40.12Nickenyfiken"Windfury Weapon": Mixing two different ranks of "Windfury Weapon"
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03:40.19Nickenyfiken*sob*
03:40.35Garoun|Loupanagrr, now the masterloot icon won't clear off ym character
03:40.54NightHawkTheSaneNickenyfiken: i know. :\ granted, a needed change.. but :\
03:41.09NickenyfikenYeah i guess
03:41.58vhaarrI'm really disappointed by these heroic nerfs.
03:44.05NightHawkTheSaneo_0 did they just nerf the hell out of imp sap?
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03:44.35NightHawkTheSaneoh, wait. n/m. i need to read further down.
03:44.36vhaarrno
03:44.38vhaarrindeed
03:45.10NightHawkTheSanewow. lots of nice changes.
03:45.19DiaoI have to say the patch notes are fake
03:45.29Diao- "Flurry", Fury Talent, now increases attack speed by 5/10/15/20/25%,
03:45.29Diaoreduced from 10/15/20/25/30.
03:45.34Diaoand yet the shaman talent isn't nerfed?
03:46.05KemayoHoly crap: Replaced the current "Mend Pet" channel spell with an instant cast
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03:46.17hyperChipmunk$$$
03:46.51hyperChipmunkand readiness works with misdirection now too
03:46.51Bibi`ouFhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=94.0 updated ^^
03:48.27vhaarr"-  You can socket items while in flight." how useful
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03:48.43chutwigjesus these patch notes are long
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03:49.18NightHawkTheSaneyay, 2m mana spring
03:49.22KemayoMy wife just saw the Illumination change.  Her comment is "Fuck WoW, man.  Fuck it!  I'm glad I quit."
03:49.36Aiianehmm, linky? wasn't aware the full patch notes were out
03:49.39vhaarrshe wouldn't say that if she played a priest
03:49.44NightHawkTheSanehttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=93.0
03:49.45Aiianeor is it just the usual testrealm page?
03:49.45chutwigjeeeeeeeeesus these are long
03:49.49chutwigi'm putting them in a pastey now
03:49.56NightHawkTheSanethey really are long
03:50.09Kemayovhaarr: She plays a shadow priest too, so she's cool with that.
03:50.24chutwigthat's no patch notes, that's a space station
03:50.30Diaolol
03:50.34NightHawkTheSanehaha
03:50.36vhaarrKemayo: shadow priest != priest
03:50.42DiaoI have a hard time believing they'd nerf warrior flurry without nerfing shaman flurry
03:50.47chutwighttp://pastey.net/12022 if you can't reach the original link
03:50.49Aiianeshadow priest is a rare breed of mage :P
03:50.59DiaoIt makes no sense because they have such trouble fixing minor things like victory rush being the same damage as bloodthirst
03:51.06vhaarrKemayo: fact is, none of the top guilds bring more than 1 holy priest on 25man raids, and they bring 4 paladins; something had to be done.
03:51.18DiaoDon't nerf paladins, buff priests
03:51.20vhaarrKemayo: of course, increasing priest survivability would've been a better thing than nerfing paladins, but meh.
03:52.37chutwigi just sent the patch notes to my printer
03:52.38chutwig38 pages
03:52.54NightHawkTheSaneo_0 devastate attacks with both weapons? wow.
03:53.01Diaolol
03:53.04DiaoThat's not a big deal
03:53.13DiaoIt's so prot warriors can kind of grind
03:53.16chutwigit's so that prot warriors don't go insane
03:53.16chutwigyeah
03:53.17NightHawkTheSaneno, but it goes a long way towards helping prot warriors not suck wen not taking
03:53.23Diaowell
03:53.26DiaoThink about this
03:53.26NightHawkTheSanetanking*
03:53.29DiaoStormstrike does full weapon damage
03:53.32Diaowith both weapons
03:53.32chutwigwell, it's not going to turn prot warriors into fury dps monsters
03:53.36DiaoDevastate does.. half weapon damage
03:53.39Diaowith both weapons..
03:53.55NightHawkTheSaneDiao: yeah, but enh shamans are melee dps, tahts to be expected.
03:54.02NightHawkTheSaneBut yeah, its a good solid improvement
03:54.03DiaoAnd offhand weapons already have their dps reduced to 1/2.. so with devastate
03:54.06DiaoIt does 1/4 damage :(
03:54.11chutwigi don't understand most of the hunter changes
03:54.12chutwignever played
03:54.16NightHawkTheSanewell, one hand spec increases off hand damage too
03:54.27Diaotrue
03:54.35Diaothey should have just nerfed MS
03:54.42Diaoinstead of nerfing fury to nerf the MS/deathwish/flurry build
03:55.05chutwigpaladins got semi-buffed and semi-nerfed
03:55.13chutwigthe crying over illumination will be ennnnnnnnnndless
03:55.25NightHawkTheSanehm, spell reflect off the gcd. nice. doesnt fix the 1/4 of my damn rage bar cost, though
03:55.25CIA-1103jayrox * r32513 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc Localization.lua): FuBar_VampwatchFu: added "reset totals" option. resets only the total stats, and keeps the tick stats intact.
03:55.34chutwigthey also put the sanctity aura change in the wrong place
03:55.40chutwigput it under priests, should have been in paladins
03:55.44chutwigincreases their usefulness
03:56.08NickenyfikenDAMN Gnomes don't have to swim in BM anymore :-P
03:56.19Diaohaha
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03:56.40chutwigeven my human has had to swim in BM sometimes
03:56.43NightHawkTheSanethey fixed that? :( I liked laughing at the gnomes
03:57.22Nickenyfikenhehe
03:57.50NickenyfikenWe don't need Equip compare addons anymore now?
03:58.02NightHawkTheSaneoh?
03:58.05vhaarrnot the basic kind, no
03:58.14PProvostsplain?
03:58.19kergothdangit, its hard to get marks of thrallmar when this server is this dead. t here's no alliance to be found anywehre near the towers
03:58.21NickenyfikenHolding down the shift key while mousing over an equippable item
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03:58.41PProvostNice
03:58.44NightHawkTheSaneneat
03:58.45PProvostOne more addon removed
03:59.23chuckg-  Profession UI now has a search field. Text that is entered into the
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03:59.25ckknightNickenyfikenI don't want to hold shift
03:59.25chuckg<PROTECTED>
03:59.26chuckgAwesome.
03:59.29NickenyfikenI just want to see RatingBuster support from day one, if its not already :-P
03:59.32chuckgThey wrote my mod into the default game!
04:00.14Nickenyfikenchuckg: awsome! :-)
04:00.32chuckgSuper awesome.
04:00.42Nickenyfikenckknight: make a addon to disable the need for shift then :-P
04:01.46NickenyfikenI still want a show orange and/or yellow recipes
04:01.57ckknightNickenyfiken: lol
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04:02.10ckknightI want to read the framexml diff
04:03.06hyperChipmunkcool, i get a new title
04:03.39NickenyfikenLooks like some of Fence features are in AH too
04:04.04Bibi`ouFhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=94.0 updated with weapons :p
04:04.37hyperChipmunk-  "Polymorph" spell duration has been changed from 20 seconds to 8  seconds.
04:05.15hyperChipmunki'm assuming that's a creature-cast
04:05.25vhaarrthink so
04:05.41Garoun|Loupanathis is theother link:http://www.sock-puppets.com/dragonfly/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=10120
04:06.03NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: yes
04:06.05Nickenyfikenthank god, Area 52: Added a guard near an exploitable "dead zone" in town.
04:06.23NickenyfikenIsnt player poly 40s?
04:06.42NightHawkTheSaneit increases as with rank, but it starts at like 30 doesnt it?
04:09.38hyperChipmunk-  Players who feign death no longer appear dead to party and raid  members and friendly spells will not be interrupted.!
04:10.04Nickenyfikennight night
04:11.23Garoun|LoupanaLTB cooldown timers on Yata ;P
04:12.13Garoun|Loupanathe timer buttons that is
04:13.14ckknightShamans are now a darker blue in the raid UI so they have a more distinct color.
04:13.15ckknightyes!
04:13.25Garoun|Loupanahehe
04:13.44NightHawkTheSanehuh? -> "The area of interest while on a flight path is farther along the path instead of in front of you."
04:13.56vhaarrCombat log.
04:14.10NightHawkTheSaneahh
04:14.15NightHawkTheSane... kay.
04:14.18TemNightHawkTheSane, the "area of interest" indicates where your camera will point if it's set to auto follow
04:14.26vhaarror that :P
04:14.45NightHawkTheSanethat makes very slightly more sense
04:15.27chuckgHaha Nickeny, http://chuckg.org/wow/fraps/a52guards.php !
04:15.33chuckgOh he left :(
04:15.36NightHawkTheSanetheres a lot of ui changes
04:15.53NightHawkTheSaneit makes me a little skeptical
04:15.56chutwigoh nice
04:16.01chutwig[flyable] conditional now
04:16.14NightHawkTheSaneokay, that one is like 3 month old news. :)
04:16.24chutwigi don't read your nerdly news, nighthawk!
04:17.00NightHawkTheSanewhat, you mean the UI forum? or you know, the outside world not living under a rock? ;)
04:17.23chutwigNERD
04:17.26chutwigsleeptime
04:17.57vhaarrI can't log in on test, it says my prepaid time has expired.
04:18.03vhaarrAnd yet I can log in on 2.0.12.
04:19.34vhaarr"This account is active and can be used for playing."
04:19.37vhaarrfrom my account page
04:19.38vhaarrwtf
04:19.51hyperChipmunk-  The Rotate Minimap feature is now working.
04:20.18hyperChipmunki wasn't aware such a feature even existed O_o
04:20.20NightHawkTheSane"Auchenai Crypts: Creatures here will no longer occasionally drop aquatic-oriented items, Fish Scales, etc." -- See, I just figured that was because Draenei looked like octopi.
04:21.19kergothhehe
04:21.33ckknightActive corpses or objects (ones with loot on them) now can be selected and looted, even if they are underneath another corpse that does not have loot on it.
04:22.07Megalonmhm
04:22.08Megalon- New Tips of the day have been added.
04:22.09Megalon!!!!
04:22.20NightHawkTheSaneSorry folks, no porting to UBRS, buffing the raid, and zoning in to TK, cause that was a huge issue: "Scarshield Spellbinder: The fire resist buff from this creature will no longer work on targets over level 63."
04:22.32kergothhahah
04:22.43kergothmeh
04:22.43vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: Same with Dire Maul, Onyxia, etc :)
04:22.46vhaarrbuffs, that is
04:22.48ckknightalright, time to go
04:22.50NightHawkTheSaneyeah
04:22.56hyperChipmunkyea, i saw that =)
04:23.06NightHawkTheSane"no, you cant world buff cheeze anymore."
04:23.56Garoun|Loupanait is no longer creative thinking :P
04:25.29Killmorehttp://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=10975
04:29.31vhaarrthese flask nerfs are fucking bullshit
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04:30.04vhaarrmighty resto down from 70mp/5 to 25mp/5
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04:30.18vhaarrwonder what fortification is, then .. +300 hp?
04:30.42ckknighthey all
04:30.53vhaarrhey ho
04:31.08hyperChipmunki think you have to think of them no longer as the flasks of old, but a way to double up a defensive or offensive elixir
04:31.08ckknightI ain't no ho
04:31.34hyperChipmunkthey're making fel lotus much less rare
04:31.45vhaarrhyperChipmunk: the mats for mighty resto vs elixir of major mageblood ..
04:31.56vhaarr15% increased drop rate on fel lotus
04:32.01vhaarrI've found 9 since release
04:32.09vhaarrand I picked over 1000 herbs
04:32.35vhaarrat least 400 felweed, 300 dreaming glory and various others
04:33.02hyperChipmunki don't see anything that says 15%
04:33.07vhaarrhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/94850206.htm
04:33.42NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: youve probably just had some bad luck. I think i've got almost two dozne on my warrior, and i havnt played her in a couple weeks
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04:33.57vhaarranyway
04:34.04vhaarrfuck the mats, what about fortification flasks?
04:34.07vhaarr+300 hp?
04:34.31hyperChipmunk15%...are you sure that's not the difference between 1% and 16% instead of 1% and 1.15%?
04:34.35vhaarractually it will probably be closer to 500
04:34.54vhaarrhyperChipmunk: ?
04:35.06vhaarrhyperChipmunk: "the drop rate has been increased approx. 15%"
04:35.17vhaarrthat's 15% no matter what the % was to begin with, isn't it
04:35.46hyperChipmunkby 15%; additive or multiplicative isn't specified
04:36.08hyperChipmunkeither way, i think you should play for a few weeks before passing judgement
04:36.29hyperChipmunkbelieve it or not, they don't sit around trying to think up ways to make the game less fun for their players
04:37.27vhaarrI believe that, they just end up doing that in so many ways
04:37.29ckknightWhen items are being put up for sale on the Auction House, if the item you are putting up for bid is the same item and quanity as the previous item you put up for bid, it will automatically fill in the  price and buyout for you with your previous price.
04:37.55hyperChipmunkckknight: yea there are a TON of third-party roll-ins
04:38.07ckknightpretty nice
04:38.13ckknightthey won't take away my addons, though
04:38.29ckknightfrankly, I think it's a good thing
04:38.32ckknightbetter UI overall
04:38.36hyperChipmunkyep
04:38.50ckknightI'm downloading the PTR now
04:38.54hyperChipmunkreset button in AH now too
04:38.59ckknightI'll be updating AceComm for whisper comm asap
04:39.08hyperChipmunkand pretty much all that's good in Manufac
04:39.28NightHawkTheSaneso who's tackling a robust memory/cpu usage mod? :D
04:40.22ckknightI was planning to
04:40.22hyperChipmunki anticipate something from Gello on those lines
04:40.41hyperChipmunklots of druids are gonna like the spin-shading on their HoT durations
04:41.38ckknightI still want a framexml diff
04:41.56hyperChipmunkChronometer is unnecessary
04:42.07hyperChipmunki can make one; it will likely be enormous
04:42.24unduNot really, not everyone might like Blizzards implementation.
04:42.37Diaospin shading? o_O
04:42.37vhaarrhyperChipmunk: Nah, the spin-shading is only provided for buffs you can see, i.e. on your target.
04:42.37NightHawkTheSaneI wonder how moddable/hookable/whateverable thier implementation will be
04:43.07ckknighthyperChipmunk: make a diff, you mean?
04:43.13ckknightif you can, I'd appreciate it
04:43.13hyperChipmunkyea
04:43.49laughloriendoes anyone know why a fubar plugin wouldn't get the .foldername attribute assigned?
04:44.22ckknightlaughlorien: if the folder is too long it could bug out
04:44.27laughlorienah
04:44.28ckknightthe folder name itself
04:44.30laughlorienthat's probably it
04:44.30hyperChipmunkckknight: have a preference in diff format?
04:44.43ckknighthyperChipmunk: not really...
04:45.48vhaarrdiff -up8
04:46.03ckknight- Numerous performance optimizations have been made across all platforms.
04:46.05ckknightI like that
04:46.33vhaarr:P
04:46.35vhaarrat least -u
04:46.43hyperChipmunkyea, doing -u
04:46.48vhaarr^^
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04:46.57hyperChipmunk12338 lines
04:47.03vhaarrpastey!
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04:47.26ckknightjust pastey
04:47.31ckknightI like a good context
04:47.36hyperChipmunkfine
04:48.24chuckgOh me see!
04:48.29kenlyricwow is turning into harrison bergeron. Make it as even as possible so there's no peaks or valleys to confuse anyone.
04:49.05ckknighthow so, kenlyric?
04:49.40ckknightjust want to know why you think that
04:50.25hyperChipmunkhttp://ace.pastey.net/12035 proceed with caution
04:50.46ckknightomfg, hyperChipmunk, why did you paste something so huge?
04:50.48kenlyricthey put stuff int he game to make it exciting, to allow you to branch out and find your own way, then nerf nerf nerf.
04:50.57ckknight;-)
04:50.58hyperChipmunk...
04:51.49hyperChipmunkfriggin' bite me, ho
04:51.52kenlyricI mean, it's hyper sad that I"m somewhat happy about paladin nerf just because it reduces my relative suckiness.
04:52.39hyperChipmunkoops
04:52.41ckknightbut I'm new to Alliance, so I have no qualms with rerolling
04:52.48hyperChipmunki tagged it as lua, not diff
04:52.55ckknightany thoughts?
04:52.58kenlyricwell, warning, you might run out of mana now. Potentially.
04:53.00ckknighthyperChipmunk: urg
04:53.04ckknighthyperChipmunk: repastey
04:53.11hyperChipmunkit actually came out surprisingly well
04:53.13vhaarrnah, it works fine
04:53.15vhaarrindeed
04:53.28kenlyricoh, and ckknight... <3 on knowing Bergeron :)
04:53.36kenlyricrip kurt :(
04:53.38hyperChipmunki think it autodetected
04:53.44ckknightyea, too bad he died
04:53.49ckknightwas a good author
04:53.51hyperChipmunkbut http://ace.pastey.net/12035?lang=diff if you really want it
04:54.11ckknightstill loading...
04:54.13ckknightat 875k
04:54.22ckknighthow big is this?
04:54.24ckknightdang.
04:54.33vhaarrare you on a slow connection?
04:54.34NightHawkTheSane12338 lines?
04:54.37vhaarrloaded almost instantly here
04:54.47hyperChipmunktext file is 469K
04:54.50ckknightvhaarr: school connection, also downloading PTR
04:54.54vhaarrah
04:55.06hyperChipmunk479345 characters
04:55.16Neural_Overload:X
04:57.19hyperChipmunk+function UpdateUIPanelPositions(currentFrame)
04:57.39kenlyricyeah, ptr is slowing me up something fierce.
04:57.45hyperChipmunkbig chunk of secure-ishy stuff there
04:57.47kenlyricI don't recall the patches ever being like this.
04:58.08ckknightomg, it's only done loading half the lines
04:58.43hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/framexml21diff if you just wanna d/l it from me
04:59.18Neural_OverloadSo.. um.. Hi
04:59.23vhaarrthank god
04:59.30vhaarrthey've fixed the buff frames slightly
04:59.31hyperChipmunkeyyy
04:59.46vhaarrah this is nice
04:59.57hyperChipmunkvhaarr: rofl i just now went over that giant chunk of red
05:00.03vhaarr:P
05:00.05hyperChipmunk-<Button name="TargetFrameDebuff1" inherits="TargetDebuffButtonTemplate" id="1">
05:00.10vhaarryes
05:00.14hyperChipmunkand so on
05:00.23vhaarrbut the player buff frames are fixed as well
05:00.41ckknightalright, gonna go home now
05:00.55Neural_Overloadck, before you go, I have one quick questin that I came to ask
05:01.03Neural_OverloadIs Pitbull broken?
05:01.03ckknightsorry, no
05:01.05ckknightI'm going.
05:01.10vhaarrlol
05:01.10ckknightno, it's not
05:01.10vhaarr+ChatTypeInfo["MONSTER_PARTY"]                          = { sticky = 0 };
05:01.12vhaarrwtf
05:01.19vhaarrmonster party? :o
05:01.20hyperChipmunkhe'll be back in like 5m
05:01.24hyperChipmunklol
05:01.27ckknightThe monster mash!
05:01.28hyperChipmunkactually...
05:01.30hyperChipmunkno, that's good
05:01.32ckknightI'll be back in 30 or so
05:01.36hyperChipmunkprobably like mob whispers
05:01.36Neural_OverloadK
05:01.38hyperChipmunkbut to your party
05:01.41vhaarrah
05:01.44vhaarryeah probably
05:01.46hyperChipmunkso you don't miss zone lore
05:01.50ckknightcool
05:01.53hyperChipmunkbecause you weren't standing close to the npc
05:02.03vhaarrso now we have CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_PARTY
05:02.17Killmorewhere did you get the PTR to download?
05:02.21hyperChipmunkit's a graveyard smash, yo
05:02.36hyperChipmunktest.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr
05:02.43vhaarro_O, I see |select(...)| usage in blizz lua
05:02.57vhaarrnever seen that before actually
05:02.58hyperChipmunk-StaticPopupDialogs["MEMORY_EXHAUSTED"] = {
05:03.06hyperChipmunknot sorry to see THAT one go
05:03.34vhaarrIsFlyableArea()
05:03.45hyperChipmunk-skillRankStart = skillRank;
05:03.45hyperChipmunk+local skillRankStart = skillRank;
05:03.52vhaarryeah there are many of those :P
05:04.03hyperChipmunkO_o
05:04.06vhaarrin one function they just outright removed *12* local variables that were unused
05:04.10vhaarrFUCKING 12
05:04.13hyperChipmunklol
05:04.31hyperChipmunk"many performance improvements on all platforms" = "we hired some dude to vet our lua"
05:04.36vhaarrhaha
05:04.49vhaarr"slouken actually read PIL"
05:04.56hyperChipmunkhehehe
05:04.56hyperChipmunkyes!
05:05.24hyperChipmunkhoho secureraidpetheader
05:05.29hyperChipmunkexcellent!
05:06.08hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
05:06.23hyperChipmunkthat's some niceness there
05:06.36WobWorkThey should have done "..contributed by Da Bomb"
05:07.01hyperChipmunknow we know who the dude what vetted their lua is
05:07.49hyperChipmunk+-- ADVANCED TOPICS: STATE STACK FUNCTIONS
05:07.56hyperChipmunkfollowed by 20 lines of doc
05:07.58hyperChipmunkwtf
05:07.59kergothoi, pitbull is so out of whack right now
05:08.05kergoththe craziness i screenshotted happens constantly
05:08.17WobWorkhyperChipmunk: Thank god for those commetns
05:08.29WobWorkIt almost makes secure state headers understandable
05:08.32hyperChipmunk@ -4,6 +4,11 @@ -- Contributed with permission by Iriel, with some support code from Tem -- (Anchoring code inspired by cueball)
05:08.41hyperChipmunkyay Tem
05:08.45WobWorkAll of that commenting is a godsend
05:08.56hyperChipmunkyea i know
05:09.06Temhuh?
05:09.10hyperChipmunkwell documented code in framexml
05:09.15hyperChipmunkwtf is next?
05:09.19TemI wrote some of that documentation
05:09.24Tem40ish lines
05:09.29hyperChipmunkyea, that's why we're yayying you
05:09.32Temlol
05:09.39hyperChipmunkwell, i am, at least
05:10.02kergothyay indeed
05:11.22hyperChipmunkwhooooah
05:11.24hyperChipmunk+-- Needs to be an "IsVisible" check - Bug  ID: 86808
05:11.37hyperChipmunkb...bug...ID!?!
05:11.48Arrowmasteranybody gotten the torrent out of the ptr downloader?
05:12.02ArrowmasterWoWTorrentEx isnt working on it
05:12.02hyperChipmunkyou mean they're actually running some bug tracking?
05:12.17vhaarrwe should get access to said tracker
05:12.30hyperChipmunkyea, i was thinknig the same
05:12.35TemhyperChipmunk, where areyou reading this?
05:12.53vhaarrframexml code
05:12.53hyperChipmunki just pastey'd a giant diff of framexmls
05:13.08TemhyperChipmunk, can you send me a copy of the 2.1.0 UIParent.lua?
05:13.10hyperChipmunkhttp://ace.pastey.net/12035?lang=diff
05:13.18hyperChipmunksure, sec
05:13.26TemI need to hack
05:13.48hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/UIParent.lua
05:14.00ZealotOnAStickworked fine for me.  Take the downloader and wowtorrentex and put just those two files in a folder somewhere with nothing else and run it.
05:14.05vhaarr+DAILY_QUESTS_REMAINING = "You can only complete %d more daily quests today";
05:14.08vhaarrwhat the hell is a daily quest
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05:14.22ZealotOnAStickI can toss the torrent up somewhere if someone has something handy.
05:14.37vhaarrah :P
05:14.57Temthanks, hyperChipmunk
05:15.09chuckghttp://chuckg.org/wow/ptr/
05:15.11chuckgThere you go.
05:15.41Arrowmasterok yeah moved them to different folder and it worked now
05:15.56Arrowmastertried droping the downloader onto wowtorrentex and it didnt do anything
05:15.57chuckgThat's an http link to the PTR patch.
05:16.25hyperChipmunkwell aren't you mister fancypants
05:17.01NightHawkTheSanehis pants actually ARE quite fancy.
05:17.02NightHawkTheSaneI checked.
05:17.08hyperChipmunktossin' around your bandwidth like yer jus' all dat
05:17.13vhaarrbellbottoms?
05:17.31kergoth2.1 is on the ptr now?
05:17.31vhaarryeah
05:17.38kergotheeeexcellent
05:17.39Arrowmasterso close
05:17.43hyperChipmunkyea, where'd you think i was pulling these diffs from
05:17.51hyperChipmunklol
05:17.59Arrowmasterpulling the ptr patch at 597.3KBps off of chucks server
05:18.01hyperChipmunkbetter than patch notes hoax!
05:18.05kergothhehe
05:18.25hyperChipmunktwelve thousand line diff
05:18.28hyperChipmunkof framexml
05:19.07vhaarrif ( LOOT_UNDER_MOUSE == "1" ) then
05:19.12vhaarr-- position loot window under mouse cursor      
05:19.16vhaarryet another addon nuked
05:19.21hyperChipmunkwoot
05:19.27vhaarrnot mentioned in the patch notes either
05:19.51hyperChipmunkso what; that's totally useful
05:20.01Werikquestion is if its only applies when you open the loot window or not
05:20.02vhaarrI wasn't being negative
05:20.32hyperChipmunk-casting = floor( casting * 5.0);
05:20.32hyperChipmunk+casting = floor( casting * 5.0 );
05:20.55hyperChipmunkwhat, paren consistency doesn't merit a patch note?
05:20.58kenlyricvhaarr: which addon is nuked?
05:21.05hyperChipmunkfruityloots
05:21.08vhaarrkenlyric: <vhaarr> -- position loot window under mouse cursor      
05:21.37vhaarrgah
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05:22.02vhaarrI don't like the way blizzard triggers a OnEnter for items every OnUpdate for all possible items except bag contents
05:22.09vhaarrit happens with sendmail now, too, in 2.1
05:22.17vhaarrand inbox
05:22.28kenlyricvhaarr: oh, I though that change was just to allow you to loot a body even if it was covered by bodies you couldn't loot.
05:22.40kenlyricUseful in twinking deadmines, when you AOE kill 40 mobs at once.
05:23.04vhaarrthat's unrelated
05:23.21vhaarrthis is copied from the actual frame xml code
05:23.35vhaarrwhich does not determine corpse placement
05:23.40vhaarrafaik
05:24.03hyperChipmunk-checked = nil;
05:24.06hyperChipmunk-info.checked = checked;
05:24.07hyperChipmunk+info.checked = nil;
05:24.13hyperChipmunkbrilliant
05:24.13vhaarr:P
05:24.36hyperChipmunksad thing is, it's still redundant
05:24.52CIA-1103next96 * r32514 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua:
05:24.52CIA-11sRaidFrames:
05:24.52CIA-11- Update locale koKR
05:25.22hyperChipmunk-MiniMapPing:SetAlpha(255 * (MiniMapPing.fadeOutTimer/MINIMAPPING_FADE_TIMER))
05:25.25hyperChipmunk+MiniMapPing:SetAlpha(255 * (MiniMapPing.fadeOutTimer/MINIMAPPING_FADE_TIMER));
05:25.34hyperChipmunkthey're ADDING semicolons
05:25.37vhaarryeah noticed
05:25.48hyperChipmunkwoooooootifs
05:25.53Bibi`ouFhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=94.0 updated with all the T6 shoulders screenshots, if you're still interested :p
05:26.34hyperChipmunkwtf do they have against hunters
05:26.38vhaarrhaha
05:26.39vhaarr-               <Texture file="Interface\OptionsFrame\NvidiaLogo">
05:26.46vhaarrI wonder what happened
05:26.49hyperChipmunkO_o
05:26.59hyperChipmunkmaybe it's no longer how the game is played
05:27.02vhaarr"sry nvidia you guys suck, we're evaluating ATI for our next patch"
05:27.04vhaarrhaha ye
05:27.49CIA-1103laughlorien * r32515 10FuBar_KillMeterFu/ (5 files): FuBar_KillMeterFu: Initial import.
05:27.58ZealotOnAStickKillMeterFu?
05:27.59vhaarrkillmeterfu, sounds dramatic
05:28.03laughlorienoh it is
05:28.12NightHawkTheSanewill it meter my kills?
05:28.14laughlorienjust kills to next level at the moment
05:28.21laughloriencount them, even =D
05:28.37NightHawkTheSanesounds hot.
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05:32.09vhaarrVOICE_STATUS_UPDATE, you've got to be kidding me
05:32.22vhaarrwe finally got it?
05:32.24hyperChipmunklol i swear you're reading over my shoulder
05:32.29vhaarr:D
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05:33.02NightHawkTheSanewhats that for?
05:33.03ZealotOnAStickthat'll do what?
05:33.13vhaarrI presume it's officer status
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05:34.20ckknighthonestly, I would love a Ventrilo-esque thing built into WoW.
05:34.35hyperChipmunkno, that would really REALLY suck
05:34.42ckknighthow so?
05:35.01hyperChipmunkan api that kicks out to third-party apps like the itunes one, yes
05:35.04hyperChipmunkbuilding one in, no
05:35.11ckknight*shrug*
05:35.15hyperChipmunkit'd be a freaking mess
05:35.24ckknighthow so?
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05:35.31hyperChipmunkit has to be outside the game
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05:35.43ckknightand the reason is...
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05:35.57hyperChipmunksome dude gets disconnected
05:35.58ZealotOnAStickIsn't Tabula Rasa supposed to have integrated voice?
05:36.06vhaarr|name, rank, icon, count, duration, timeLeft = UnitBuff("target", i);| righty-o
05:36.14vhaarrso now we finally got duration and timeleft
05:36.19hyperChipmunkhe says, "someone take over for me, i got d/c'ed"
05:36.29hyperChipmunkthen he says, "oh wait, nobody can hear me because i'm d/c'ed"
05:36.55NightHawkTheSaneor, even if you dont DC, game/interface freezes/lags/pauses, could bork the voice comm.
05:37.22nuoHep- Your current target will now display all of the duration based spells
05:37.22nuoHepthat you have cast on them with cooldown rings so you will know how
05:37.22nuoHepmuch longer they will last. Very useful for warlock damage over time
05:37.22nuoHepspells and druid healing over time spells as well as many others.
05:37.25nuoHepsry
05:37.42hyperChipmunkdo you join channels based on game channels, guild, party, raid?  whatever they decide to make standard will be wrong, it should be left to the users
05:37.51ZealotOnAStickcooldown rings?
05:37.55hyperChipmunkyea
05:38.04hyperChipmunkspinshading
05:38.13hyperChipmunki assume
05:38.20NightHawkTheSanelike cooldowns on action bar buttons i assume, but representing durations on buff icons?
05:38.24NightHawkTheSaneer, -?
05:38.27hyperChipmunkyea
05:40.06nuoHepis there a pastey of the framexml diff already somewhere?
05:40.19vhaarrhttp://ace.pastey.net/12035, courtesy of hyperChipmunk
05:40.24hyperChipmunkhttp://ace.pastey.net/12035?lang=diff
05:40.34nuoHepthx
05:41.07hyperChipmunkwait until you've managed to load the page before thanking anyone =P
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05:41.32NightHawkTheSanehaha
05:42.43vhaarrphew
05:42.50vhaarrdone, finally
05:43.08hyperChipmunkha, i finished 30s before!
05:43.18vhaarrI started 30s later!
05:43.28NightHawkTheSanei finished your mom 30s before.
05:44.04vhaarrso, AceComm-2.0, Roster-2.1, SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 and Quixote-1.0 have to be updated, at least.
05:44.10*** kick/#wowace [NightHawkTheSane!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (i /kicked some moron just this second)
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05:44.24NightHawkTheSanehah. i probably deserved that. :)
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05:44.55CIA-1103laughlorien * r32516 10FuBar_KillMeterFu/libs/: FuBar_KillMeterFu: Setting up externals.
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05:46.19Roartindonhmmm.. I can't connect to dev.wowace.com atm...
05:46.22Roartindonanyone else having that problem?
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05:47.58hyperChipmunkyea, i'm expecting to be banned or something =P
05:48.09vhaarrnah, pastamancer did the same for 2.0
05:48.12vhaarriirc
05:48.17hyperChipmunkckknight made me do it, btw
05:50.45Roartindonno one else having problems with dev.wowace.com ? I can't update, comit or anything.....
05:51.05hyperChipmunki'm getting a ping response
05:51.12vhaarrlaughlorien just committed 6 minutes ago
05:51.13RoartindonIt's pinging for me
05:51.15RoartindonIt's not svn-ing tho
05:51.39ckknightvhaarr: how do Roster-2.1, SEA-2.0 and Quixote-1.0 need to be updatd?
05:52.15hyperChipmunki just did a checkout
05:52.17vhaarrckknight: VOICE_STATUS_CHANGED for Roster-2.1, new returns from UnitBuff for SEEA and some new quest stuff that I did not read in detail for Quixote.
05:52.33vhaarrckknight: More specifically, UnitBuff returns duration, timeLeft as well now.
05:52.40vhaarrRoartindon: works for me
05:52.50Roartindonhmmm...
05:53.01hyperChipmunkvhaarr: i think only for your own buffs, though
05:53.17ckknightvhaarr: cool, good times.
05:53.29hyperChipmunkor does the default ui only display for your stuff maybe
05:53.47PHL-Chuckhmm
05:54.21ckknightany idea on ToggleMiniMapRotation()?
05:54.22vhaarrhyperChipmunk: I don't think so, then it wouldn't be UnitBuff.
05:54.29vhaarrhyperChipmunk: It would be GetPlayerBuff.
05:54.34PHL-Chuck[2007/04/13 01:53:39-55-x1]: PitBull-r32511\PitBull.lua:286: attempt to index local 'unit' (a nil value)
05:54.36PHL-Chuck<in C code>: ?
05:54.37PHL-ChuckAceEvent-2.0-30806 (Ace2):251: in function `TriggerEvent'
05:54.39PHL-ChuckAceEvent-2.0-30806 (Ace2):997: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:990>
05:54.40PHL-Chuckany ideas?
05:54.52vhaarrhyperChipmunk: It's used in TargetFrame.lua.
05:54.52ckknighthow to reproduce?
05:54.56hyperChipmunkckknight: the patch notes say they've fixed minimap rotation
05:54.56vhaarr+       name, rank, icon, count, duration, timeLeft = UnitBuff("target", i);
05:55.06ckknightPHL-Chuck: I need to know how to reproduce
05:55.16PHL-Chuckit happens soon as I log i
05:55.20PHL-Chuckin*
05:55.21hyperChipmunki meant only buffs you've cast
05:55.25vhaarrhyperChipmunk: Remember that the new duration slices apparently should work for Warlock debuffs, as quoted from the blue post.
05:55.29vhaarrright
05:55.32vhaarrdoesn't matter
05:55.37vhaarrSEEA-2.0 still has to be updated
05:55.42hyperChipmunkoh i know
05:56.00PHL-Chuckjust the one error, I see the minimap icon but no unitframes
05:56.12hyperChipmunki'm just wondering if those return nil for other ppls buffs on your target, or whether the UI just doesn't show them if they're not yours
05:56.12CIA-1103ckknight * r32517 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - added check for unit, will print the debugstack and tell the user to tell me about it.
05:56.16ckknightPHL-Chuck: k, try now
05:56.21vhaarrhyperChipmunk: yeah, we'll see
05:56.35PHL-ChuckI dont have svn, I use wau
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06:03.53ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOWFYDqWN5Q
06:04.27art3misOH NOES!
06:04.40art3misfutrama just made a huge error!
06:05.42art3misthe episode where fry becomes rich and buys the last can of sardines because zoidbergs race at them all is wrong
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06:06.03art3misbecause in the underwater city of atlanta episode it shows hermes with a big bucket of sardines for fishing
06:06.06RoartindonHmm.. this is going to piss me off big time
06:06.16Roartindonlast time my ISP's transparent proxies prevented me from accessing dev.wowace.com
06:06.21Roartindonit took a month to be able to commit anything
06:06.37vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5676
06:06.39wobin_Roartindon: I feel your pain
06:06.47wobin_I can't commit from work atm
06:06.55wobin_and it's the only interweb I have right now
06:07.10RoartindonCan wowace possibly have a port redirect on it? :P
06:07.14wobin_I need to pass this code through the Rabbit filter =P
06:07.19vhaarroh noes :P
06:07.22Roartindonie. so I can commit / check out from dev.wowace.com:8000 or something?
06:07.49wobin_I actually made the MrPlow code readable!
06:07.58wobin_(except maybe the sort function, cause that's just pants)
06:08.03RoartindonIt was annoying enough before with 2 out of every 3 commit attempts failing with "200 OK"
06:08.15vhaarrwobin_: orly!
06:08.19vhaarrI want to see it :)
06:08.39wobin_I can send it to you =) email? Then you could commit it to the branch for me =)
06:08.52vhaarrhaha
06:09.02vhaarrhrm
06:09.03wobin_It's fairly frameworkish at the moment, so at most, it'll load up =)
06:09.13ZealotOnAStickNew Bleach OP on 121.
06:09.15vhaarrguess I could :P
06:09.21wobin_yay
06:09.26vhaarrwobin_: rabbit.magtheridon@gmail.com
06:10.16vhaarrwobin_: commit it to http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/MrPlow/Wobin/ or a new branch?
06:11.04wobin_sent
06:11.13wobin_Aye, that branch if you could
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06:11.54vhaarrwobin_: you have to send it as attachment
06:12.00vhaarrah wait
06:12.02vhaarryou did
06:12.20vhaarrwtf, gmail fucking up
06:12.23CIA-1103jayrox * r32518 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua Localization.lua): FuBar_VampwatchFu: fixed a long lasting, typo. i dont know i didnt see it before. >.<
06:12.34wobin_want me to resend?
06:12.50wobin_I can zip it up and reattach
06:12.54vhaarryes zip please
06:12.58vhaarrgmail is being silly
06:13.00wobin_kk
06:13.45vhaarrit automatically includes text attachments as part of the message, and the gmail "message box" is not large enough to display it all
06:14.34art3misit should have a link at the bottom of the message to download the attachment
06:14.42vhaarryeah, well, it doesn't
06:14.58ckknightfor PitBull, part of me wants to show ≤5-man, 1-party raids as just parties.
06:15.02wobin_sent
06:15.06art3mismaybe you're using gmale.com instead?
06:15.06ckknighte.g. Arena BGs
06:15.17PHL-Chuck[2007/04/13 02:15:02-56-x1]: Pitbull\PitBull.lua:289: attempt to index local 'unit' (a nil value)
06:15.18PHL-Chuck<in C code>: ?
06:15.20PHL-ChuckAceEvent-2.0-30806 (Ace2):251: in function `TriggerEvent'
06:15.22PHL-ChuckAceEvent-2.0-30806 (Ace2):997: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:990>
06:15.23PHL-Chuck<PROTECTED>
06:15.25PHL-Chuckjust grabbed that from svn
06:15.47ckknightPHL-Chuck: out of date.
06:15.52PHL-Chuckhm
06:15.53art3misone big raid frame that you can change the blocking on like with bartender buttons would be great
06:15.56ckknightwait
06:15.57ckknightum
06:16.07PHL-ChuckI used to tortise
06:16.11PHL-Chuckor whatever its called lol
06:16.18ckknightPHL-Chuck: did it print anything to the chat window?
06:16.24ckknighti.e. a bunch of white text
06:16.36PHL-ChuckI have stop the spam installed, would that block it?
06:16.42ckknightlikely.
06:16.46PHL-Chuckkk I'll try again
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06:17.47wobin_ckknight: Did you see? They've added in the option to have the ability to rotate the minimap
06:18.04ckknightI thought that was what that was :-)
06:18.05wobin_ckknight: and according to Iriel prevents us from reliably finding out where we're facing
06:18.11ckknightno!
06:18.14ckknightlamers!
06:18.33wobin_I'm not sure of the absolute veracity, or if there's another way around
06:18.47ckknightcould we somehow get the current rotation of the minimap?
06:18.57vhaarryes
06:19.00vhaarrit's in a cvar
06:19.18ckknightthen not a huge deal
06:19.25CIA-1103jjsheets * r32520 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - Added code to track and darken unusable spells, due to combat status, etc.
06:19.33JJSheetshyperChipmunk, test please.
06:19.34PHL-Chuckyeah I see the white text, I dont suppose you can copy/paste it?
06:19.37PHL-Chucklolz
06:19.59vhaarrif ( GetCVar("rotateMinimap") == "1" ) then
06:20.14ckknightuh, no
06:20.19ckknightthe angle
06:20.24ckknightI'd need the angle
06:20.34JJSheetslol
06:21.39wobin_You could posisbly just turn the rotation off?
06:22.31nuoHeplooks like the duration for buffs / debuffs is returned for player casted shit
06:22.52PHL-Chuckck, heres a screenshot with big font :-) http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041307022120gw9.jpg
06:23.00vhaarrI already made a post at http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5676.0
06:23.13vhaarrhyperChipmunk, ckknight: if you see anything else useful in the diff, please post it there
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06:25.38Roartindonhmm... I'll get my svn access back in a little over 2 hours I think
06:26.06hyperChipmunk-  The Rotate Minimap feature is now working.
06:26.23hyperChipmunkis what it says in the notes
06:26.35hyperChipmunkwhich implies it's been there all along
06:26.48RoartindonWhat does it do? just rotates the mnimap so you're always facing up?
06:26.59hyperChipmunkprobably
06:27.05vhaarrfrom the code, yeah, seems so
06:27.15KinkxIs there any SpellAlert kind of addon that gets it's info from the castingbar of your current target? In other words not using the combatlog, since it's kind of annoying in raids if you're fighting multiple mobs with the same name
06:27.17hyperChipmunkradar mode
06:27.21vhaarrit hides the direction stuff and shows a "North" indicator
06:27.21ckknightyea, Roartindon
06:27.23ckknightI'm trying it out
06:27.41Roartindonkinkx: Built into the game, turn on spell nameplates
06:27.56Diaodon't spellalerts have options for "target only"?
06:28.12Kinkxyea, it has a "target only" option, but still it uses the combatlog
06:28.27Diaooh
06:28.38Roartindonhmm.. if it shows a north indicator, then you can get the rotation
06:28.50RoartindonBy querying the position of the indicator relative to the center of the minimap?
06:28.54nuoHepwell, new "quests thing" is an addition of "daily" quests. +QUEST_LOG_DAILY_TOOLTIP = "You can only complete %d Daily quests each day. The new day starts in %s."; explains it
06:29.09KinkxRoartindon, yea i'm using that, but would like a bigger warning, like a spellalert warning ;P
06:29.36hyperChipmunknuoHep: i'm willing to bet that's one of the chinese limited-play "features"
06:29.40nuoHepthey are capping rep gain a day by this thing imo
06:30.18vhaarrckknight: you can log in to PTR?
06:30.23ckknightyes
06:30.27vhaarrdammit
06:30.30vhaarrit's not working here
06:30.30ckknightI'm US PvE Alliance
06:30.32ckknightname's ckknight
06:30.46vhaarrEU PvE, but I get a message saying my playing time has expired
06:30.51vhaarrwhich it hasn't
06:31.02hyperChipmunkclearly it has
06:31.11hyperChipmunkwhen did you xfer?
06:31.23vhaarr3 hours ago, I think
06:31.27vhaarrapprox
06:32.29CIA-1103ckknight * r32521 10PitBull_CombatFader/PitBull_CombatFader.lua: PitBull_CombatFader - fix bug causing PitBull to break
06:32.34ckknightPHL-Chuck: ^---
06:32.45Roartindonhmm.. getting past character copy is going to be fun :)
06:32.52RoartindonKEep getting server too busy problem
06:32.58PHL-Chuckcool thx :-)
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06:34.08wobin_brb
06:34.43ZealotOnAStickWhat's the 2.1.0 toc revision?
06:34.55ckknight20100
06:37.21nuoHepGetAccountExpansionLevel() heh
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06:37.40ckknightnuoHep: they finally gave it to us?
06:37.41ckknightlol
06:37.43ZealotOnAStickOh damn.  My boots got knocked up to 37 stam, 19 int, and 54 damage
06:37.44trhg'morning!
06:37.45nuoHepyeah
06:38.15WobWorkYour boots got knocked up?
06:38.18ckknightwell, the Shaman color is _definitely_ different.
06:38.20nuoHepit returns a number. 0 is vanilla wow. 1 is tbc
06:38.21ckknightvery blue.
06:38.27WobWorkYou'll end up with tiny little sandals?
06:41.58Diaolol
06:42.00ZealotOnAStickAnd they buffed Corruptor's nicely now.
06:42.03DiaoWhat's the check for expansion for?
06:42.20vhaarrmax level
06:43.09Diaoahh
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06:48.29ZealotOnAStickSupreme Power now 70 spell damage.
06:48.55ZealotOnAStickAdded a bunch new 60-badge helms from the heroic badge turn-ins.
06:51.57RoartindonHmm.. big relief.. Aloft seems to work fine with 2.1.... so far
06:52.24Arrowmaster`supreme power is 70???
06:52.25Arrowmaster`wtf
06:52.42Sparhawkeheh
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06:53.30hyperChipmunki'm telling you; you have to think of them as a double-offensive or double-defensive elixir
06:53.43hyperChipmunkthey're not ubermegaelixirs now
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06:54.10hyperChipmunkthey're just a way to get two of the same type, rather than one offense plus one defense
06:55.09nuoHepZealotOnAStick, care to check the relentless assault (sp?) ? plz
06:55.17Arrowmasterill use use elixir of major shadow power then
06:55.30dotted2.1.0 patch notes out?
06:55.35Arrowmasterwhich is +65 shadow damage unless it got nerfed
06:55.39hyperChipmunk12.1 ptr out
06:55.45hyperChipmunk2.1*
06:56.00NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: what about other flasks?
06:56.01dottedbut no notes? :/
06:56.13hyperChipmunkthey're in the Patch.txt file
06:56.41hyperChipmunki guess i can pastey that too
06:56.42dottedbah
06:56.48dottedplz do ^^
06:57.04NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: its not like it could be any worse than pastying that diff
06:57.25hyperChipmunk=\
06:57.34ZealotOnAStickI've logged off, and people were asking for relentless assault but nobody linked one.
06:57.48ZealotOnAStickThe only other one I know is Restoration is down to 25 mp/5
06:57.50NightHawkTheSaneahh, np.
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06:58.16ZealotOnAStickChromatic Resistance still looked to be 25 resist all.
06:58.16NightHawkTheSaneI can check all the old world flasks when I get it installed and logged in, was just curious
06:58.27ZealotOnAStickNo discoveries on my druid yet. :(
06:58.29hyperChipmunkhttp://ace.pastey.net/12052
06:58.44dottedthx hyperChipmunk
06:58.47NightHawkTheSaneIve only got Arcane FOrt flask on my warrior. :~(
06:59.04ckknighthrm, how do I extract the FrameXML properly?
06:59.08NightHawkTheSaneon the up side, i can try out some other specs on my shaman for free now. :D
06:59.15hyperChipmunkdownload the addon kit
06:59.21ckknightoh yea, it should work
06:59.25ckknightnot like the old TBC beta
06:59.28HerioI'm dissapointed that there is no replacement for supreme power XD
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06:59.53NightHawkTheSaneHerio: well, there is now! Major fire power/frost power/shadow power. :p
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07:00.18Heriosorry I hit ctrl w instead of WHAT?!
07:00.27NightHawkTheSanelol
07:00.34Heriowhat are the mats?
07:00.39hyperChipmunkretard
07:00.52NightHawkTheSaneHerio: they're the elixirs that have been there the entire time
07:01.03NightHawkTheSaneJust the +dmg they give is a lot closer to the nerfed +70 that the flask gives. ;)
07:01.15Heriouh
07:01.19Heriothey aren't flasks
07:01.37NightHawkTheSaneI know, i was being a bit facetious
07:01.43ZealotOnAStickMajor Shadow Power is 55 shadow damage.  Supreme Power is 70 spell damage now.
07:01.51Herio150?
07:01.55ArrowmasterAncient Lichen, Nightmare Vine, Imbued Vial for major shadow power
07:02.01nuoHepwell, a flask is still a "2hr fuckdeath" buff. so it depends on regs now
07:02.05knarf-Anyone have any experience with RequestRaidInfo() ?
07:02.17Herioand the two stack, no?
07:02.20sedatedChipmunkplus it encompasses all schools
07:02.20ZealotOnAStickUsed to be 150, yes.
07:02.21ZealotOnAStickNo.
07:02.24NightHawkTheSanedid they change the elixirs too?
07:02.28sedatedChipmunkand you can't stack diff schools now
07:02.30ZealotOnAStickFlasks count as BOTH a guardian and combat elixir.
07:02.30NightHawkTheSanei thought shadow power used to be more
07:02.37Heriowhen did they change it?
07:02.39ZealotOnAStickYou can only have 1 guardian and 1 combat elixir up at once.
07:02.40Arrowmastershadow power was 65
07:02.42ZealotOnAStick2.1.0
07:02.48vhaarrhttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/9/e/b9e7fe1cc6b1549fbf1a5f88053b6a65.png
07:02.48Heriowhat the fuck?
07:02.53sedatedChipmunkso the only way to get more than one school is by using the flask
07:03.06ZealotOnAStickSo, you get 2 elixirs, total, or A flask.
07:03.12vhaarrno
07:03.15vhaarrflask + elixir
07:03.17ZealotOnAStickNo.
07:03.18NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: no.
07:03.20vhaarraha
07:03.22Herioso, they don't stack?
07:03.27NightHawkTheSaneno.
07:03.28ZealotOnAStickFlasks are BOTH elixir types.
07:03.47sedatedChipmunknot either-or
07:03.52HerioI was under the impression that since the flask is a different effect they would
07:04.14Heriowhat are the stacking rules, anyhow?
07:04.14sedatedChipmunkno, they changed all that
07:04.16ZealotOnAStickRight now, on 2.0.12, I can do Supreme Power + Major Shadow Power + Adept's + Mastery + Empowerment + Mageblood + Troll's Blood + Fortitude  . . .
07:04.24sedatedChipmunkthere are none for elixirs/flasks anymore
07:04.33ZealotOnAStickStacking rules are: 1 Guardian and 1 Battle elixir.
07:04.48sedatedChipmunkwhy don't you have a look at the notes, eh?
07:04.51ZealotOnAStickFlasks, count as BOTH a Guardian and Battle Elixir.
07:04.53knarf-lame, we can't pot like madmen anymore :<
07:05.00Heriothat's queer
07:05.03ZealotOnASticknot lame.
07:05.05ZealotOnAStickAbout fucking time.
07:05.07NightHawkTheSaneits great
07:05.14ZealotOnAStickRaid content was tuned to presume to above sort of thing.
07:05.17Heriooils stack, right? =P
07:05.23knarf-But it was funny potting like a madman :P
07:05.27NightHawkTheSaneoils are weapon buffs, so why wouldnt they
07:05.33ZealotOnAStickSo you spend, easily, several hundred gold or a good dozen hours worth of time on a single night's hard wiping on something nasty.
07:05.36knarf-what about drunk effects?
07:05.45sedatedChipmunknope
07:05.49ZealotOnAStick+stam drinks no longer stack with +stam food.
07:05.50NightHawkTheSanealcohol? now is a food bufff
07:05.56Heriowell fed?
07:06.03ZealotOnAStickSo, I'll probably just use Rumsey Rum and the +23 spell food.
07:06.05sedatedChipmunkwell-tanked!
07:06.08Arrowmasterare you sure its a food buff?
07:06.17NightHawkTheSanealso, they made a lot of non-alchy buff consumables count as elixir types
07:06.18ZealotOnAStickSays it in the fucking patch notes spelled out clearly.
07:06.19Arrowmasterpatch notes only said the stam wouldnt stack
07:06.21sedatedChipmunkREAD THE PATCH NOTES OMGZ
07:06.27NightHawkTheSane^^ seriously
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07:06.36sedatedChipmunkhttp://ace.pastey.net/12052
07:06.38knarf-I have no patch notes ... ZOMG!
07:06.39sedatedChipmunki just pasted them
07:06.41Arrowmasterpatch notes did not say booze was now a food buf
07:06.44sedatedChipmunknobody has an excuse
07:06.45dotted"Frost Trap": This trap no longer breaks stealth from its slowing
07:06.45dotted194 effect.
07:06.51dottedabout fucking time
07:06.52ZealotOnAStickI'm happy with the T5 Warlock set buffs.  Except maybe the Gloves.
07:07.03NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: maybe so, I took it to mean buffs from booze didnt stack with food buffs, but i could be wrong
07:07.21ZealotOnAStickArrow - it lists the item names for the various +stam booze exactly by name - Gordok Green Grog, all the Rumsey variants, etc.
07:07.28knarf-Anyway, anyone know of a way to get the instances your raidlocked too, and the id ?
07:07.48ZealotOnAStickHit O and then hit the button?  :P
07:07.50Arrowmasterknarf-: wowwiki.com look up the raid stuff its all there
07:07.59knarf-Arrowmaster I tried
07:08.03Arrowmastertry harder
07:08.14Arrowmasteri wrote and addon that does exactly that
07:08.27NightHawkTheSaneknarf-: /raidinfo i htink
07:08.27Arrowmasterits all documented on wowwiki
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07:08.39knarf-NightHawkTheSane can I get that info stored in variables? :>
07:08.40sedatedChipmunk-  "Rumsey Rum", "Rumsey Rum Light", "Rumsey Rum Dark", "Rumsey Rum  Black Label", "Halaani Whiskey", "Gordok Green Grog", "Raptor Punch", "Stormstout", "Trogg Ale", and "Thunderbrew Lager": The stat bonuses  from these drinks no longer stacks with stamina bonuses from other  foods.
07:08.41ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=95.0
07:08.42ZealotOnAStickNew flask stats
07:08.51NightHawkTheSaneknarf-: hell if i know
07:08.53knarf-Arrowmaster I looked at RequestRaidInfo() that did not exactly give much info imho :<
07:09.01ZealotOnAStick120 AP for relentless assault.
07:09.08Arrowmasterknarf-: look at it closer
07:09.14ZealotOnAStickTitans 400 hp, Fortification 500 hp 10 def
07:09.24ZealotOnAStickdistilled wisdom 65 intellect
07:09.29Bibi`ouFhmmm.
07:09.34Bibi`ouFyou should copy these stats somewhere
07:09.41Bibi`ouFi predict a server crash "soon" ^^
07:09.42ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=95.0
07:09.51Bibi`ouFi know, i'm the webmaster :p
07:09.52NightHawkTheSanethey changed distilled wisdom from flat mana to +int.. huh
07:09.55dotted92- "Improved Sap" (Subtlety) renamed "Dirty Tricks": Increases the
07:09.55dotted393 range of your "Sap" and "Blind" abilities by 2/4 yards and reduces
07:09.55dotted394 the energy cost of your "Sap" and "Blind" abilities by 25/50%.
07:09.57dottedsexy
07:10.06NightHawkTheSane10 yard saps ftw?
07:10.37Heriookay
07:10.42ZealotOnAStickBlack temple class trinkets - interesting warlock one, depending on the specifics.  Each time your Corruption deals damage, has a chance to grant spell damage for a duration.
07:10.52ArrowmasterThe "Spellfire" and "Shadoweave" tunics have been changed to robes.
07:10.53knarf-Arrowmaster well do you know anything about it? because I tried doing a arg1,arg2,arg3 = RequestRaidInfo(); and printing arg1, but arg1 held nothing :<
07:10.54sedatedChipmunkBibi`ouF: smelling smoke already?
07:10.54Herioso where in the notes does it talk about food buffs and stacking with elixers?
07:11.09Arrowmasterknarf-: thats not at all how it works
07:11.17sedatedChipmunk/alchemy
07:11.22Bibi`ouFsedatedChipmunk : yeah
07:11.26Bibi`ouFCPU usage is at like 80%
07:11.27Bibi`ouF^^
07:11.28Punkie`-  Male gnome /cheer animation is no longer incomplete.  *woohoo!*
07:11.32Arrowmasteryou call RequestRaidInfo() and it fires an event with the details
07:11.35sedatedChipmunkhooray!
07:11.36ZealotOnAStickHmm.
07:11.47ckknightwoot, got AceComm handling WHISPER comm
07:11.58ZealotOnAStickWarlock T6 helm and shoulders I'm not sure about piecemeal.  Have to see them together.  Look . . . awfully Wing-y.
07:12.03sedatedChipmunkckknight: nobody cares, stfu
07:12.04ckknightjust gotta make sure it's backwards compatible...
07:12.09Herioso now it's 1 food OR drink buff,  1 battle AND 1 guardian buff OR 1 flash buff in place of the 2 elixers, no?
07:12.11ckknightsedatedChipmunk: lol wut
07:12.12knarf-ckknight I thought it already did that :>
07:12.15sedatedChipmunkZealotOnAStick: they are, and they're animated
07:12.24ckknightknarf-: yea, but now through the addon stream
07:12.28sedatedChipmunkthey're daemon wings
07:12.32sedatedChipmunklike from WC1
07:12.33ZealotOnAStickif it's sufficiently demonic winged and badass, maybe.
07:12.42ZealotOnAStickthey look sorta dragony-wingy though
07:12.45knarf-ckknight you lost me there :P
07:12.45sedatedChipmunkit is
07:12.51sedatedChipmunkno, dude
07:12.55sedatedChipmunkthey're wicked
07:13.03ZealotOnASticknot overly impressed with the rogue set.
07:13.04Arrowmasterpics?
07:13.15ZealotOnAStickYou got a pic of the full lock set (or an animation/movie?)
07:13.24sedatedChipmunkno, i'm goin' to bed
07:13.28sedatedChipmunkg'night
07:13.30ckknightsedatedChipmunk: Daemons were first in WC2 I thought
07:13.38sedatedChipmunkno, they were warlock summons
07:13.51sedatedChipmunkbasically you summon them and win the map
07:14.08knarf-Arrowmaster could you tell me what the event is called? :>
07:14.25ZealotOnAStickDamn.
07:14.43ZealotOnAStickT6 Rogue set 4 pc bonus: Your attacks have a chance to make your next finishing move cost no energy.
07:15.26dotted"Murloc Eggs": These pet-summoning items are now set to superior
07:15.26dotted692 quality.
07:15.28knarf-ZealotOnAStick could you link the patchnotes? I joined after you linked them :)
07:15.35dottedyay my lurky is getting blue \o/
07:15.54dottedZealotOnAStick T5 i hope :o?
07:16.07NightHawkTheSaneknarf-: http://ace.pastey.net/12052
07:16.20ZealotOnAStickdotted, can you not read where I started with "T6" ?
07:16.22dottedhmm no wowhead has T6 set bonuses up dont they?
07:16.58dottedZealotOnAStick could have been a typo, but i had forgotten that wowhead had the T6 set bonus data
07:17.01ZealotOnAStickOh, sorry . . .
07:17.07ZealotOnAStickDreadmantle . . . that may indeed be T5
07:17.25NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: o_0 that 4piece t6 rogue bonus is.. weird
07:17.52dottedRogue
07:17.52dottedSlayer's Armor
07:17.52dotted2 pieces: Increases the haste from your Slice and Dice ability by 5%.
07:17.52dotted4 pieces: Increases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Sinister Strike, and Mutilate abilities by 6%.
07:17.54NightHawkTheSaneit'll likely either: proc often enough to make most finishers free, or not enough to make it kinda pointless
07:17.56dottedthats tier 6
07:18.00kergothhmm
07:18.06ZealotOnAStickActually, that may be T5.  I'm not sure what Dreadmantle is.
07:18.16dottedDeathmantle is tier 5 for rogues
07:18.26sedatedChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/daemon.png =)
07:18.31DiaoNot even free lol
07:18.35knarf-Could anyone tell me what event RequestRaidInfo() fires off, i'm not at a machine with wow atm :/
07:18.39DiaoIf they have the talent to gain 25 energy on a finisher
07:18.43DiaoIt's an energy gain
07:19.37sedatedChipmunkwhoops, httpd server was down
07:19.39sedatedChipmunktry again =)
07:19.45dottedtier 5 > 6 set bonus wise
07:20.11NightHawkTheSanesedatedChipmunk: lol
07:20.19sedatedChipmunk>8D
07:20.21Arrowmasterknarf-: UPDATE_INSTANCE_INFO
07:20.54sedatedChipmunksee, that's the orc warrior on his epic mount
07:20.55knarf-Arrowmaster thanks :)
07:21.16DiaoWell..
07:21.21Diaofaster SnD is amazing
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07:21.27Arrowmasterregister for that event and in the onevent use GetNumSavedInstances() and instanceName, instanceID, instanceReset = GetSavedInstanceInfo(i)
07:21.49ZealotOnAStickckknight, you're amazing.
07:21.54trh2.1 got a addon whisper stream?
07:21.54ckknight:-)
07:21.57ckknightyep.
07:22.01trhawesome!
07:22.07sedatedChipmunkyea, way to change 3 lines, man
07:22.09sedatedChipmunkyou da bomb
07:22.09ZealotOnAStickPTR has been up like an hour and you're already updating stuff.
07:22.15ckknightsedatedChipmunk: it's not just that.
07:22.21sedatedChipmunk4 lines?
07:22.32ckknightsedatedChipmunk: don't be a jackass, look at the diff if you want to see
07:22.35sedatedChipmunkoh, you had to if 2.1
07:22.39ZealotOnAStickI'm going to be really curious how all the memory usage and profiling stuff goes.
07:22.39sedatedChipmunkpsh
07:22.50sedatedChipmunkbut then i'd have to not be a jackass
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07:23.10sedatedChipmunkand frankly, that doesn't appeal to me at all
07:23.17trhsedatedChipmunk: c'mon... we all know it's only a very small change, but the time span between ptr and change is amazing :)
07:23.21Fisker-so any 2.1.0 info and datamining up yet?
07:23.47ZealotOnAStickyour timing is abombinable.
07:23.53Fisker-:(
07:24.12sedatedChipmunknot half as amazing as my amazingly amazing warcraft 1 strat
07:24.14NightHawkTheSanecharacter copy page: "The service youre trying to access is too busy right now, please check back another time." /cry
07:24.43sedatedChipmunkpurl logs everything
07:24.55ZealotOnAStickNightHawkTheSane: that's why I copied at like 4 a.m. a couple of days ago.
07:25.01knarf-ckknight so whats the difference between sending a whisper, and using the the addon stream channel, and is there still different addon stream channels?
07:25.03NightHawkTheSaneyeah, yeah. im lazy.
07:25.20sedatedChipmunkwhispers are throttled now
07:25.28ckknightknarf-: there's still different streams, they just added the whisper stream
07:25.38ckknightthe basic difference is that before it sent over standard /w
07:25.55knarf-ckknight ahh, so now we don't risk getting disc. ? :)
07:25.57ckknightand used some encoding hacks and chatframe hooking to make the message not show up on the other side
07:26.14ckknightnow it uses the proper addon whisper stream.
07:26.19ZealotOnAStickI really hope the hell they test this patch adequately.
07:26.28ckknightZealotOnAStick: agreed
07:26.34ZealotOnAStickSo much good stuff in it, I really don't want it to be another 1.06 or so forth.
07:26.47ckknightor 2.0.0 :-P
07:27.07ZealotOnAStickEhh, that still wasn't as bad as some of the pre-expansion patches.
07:27.29ZealotOnAStickWhere for a while there, they'd have a horrible, horrible patch with massive problems, then the next one would be better, and then the next one would be trash again.
07:27.50trhare there complete patchnotes for the ptr out?
07:27.51sedatedChipmunki'm waiting for my tallstrider ability still
07:28.05sedatedChipmunkhttp://ace.pastey.net/12052
07:28.05ZealotOnAStickNew ED on Bleach 121 as well as a new OP.
07:28.13NightHawkTheSanejesus people
07:28.16ZealotOnASticknow that I get back to finishing the episode after pausing it to log on to the PTR.
07:28.40ZealotOnAStickI think the ED is better than the OP.  
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07:29.09Arrowmasteri liked the old ones better
07:29.19knarf-" Nether Drakes are now in the game and can be gained by continuing the...." weeeeeeee
07:30.00sedatedChipmunkeverybody will have one
07:30.17sedatedChipmunkand it'll be really lame after a month
07:30.17kergothtrue
07:30.20kergoth:\
07:30.29knarf-sedatedChipmunk so true
07:30.36ZealotOnAStickDoens't matter.
07:30.38NightHawkTheSaneabout as lame as the av mounts were, more or less
07:30.46ZealotOnAStickI'd still rather fly on a nether drake than a lame armored manticore.
07:30.55NightHawkTheSaneexactly
07:31.09sedatedChipmunkwell your fault for being horde
07:31.20ZealotOnAStickThe battle-doves aren't much better.
07:31.27NightHawkTheSaneyeah
07:31.35sedatedChipmunkgryphons rule
07:31.43Arrowmasteri like my swift yellow windrider
07:32.08Arrowmasteri want a netherdrake but if they become too popular ill still use my windrider
07:33.26ZealotOnAStickMeh, I've sitll got one of the coolest land mounts, so whatever.
07:33.38NightHawkTheSanewhat, the zg tiger? :D
07:33.43ZealotOnAStickDreadsteed.
07:33.57Arrowmasteri never use my dreadsteed anymore
07:34.10NightHawkTheSanenah, ZG tiger, or maybe the swift grey wolf are much nicer, I think
07:34.10Arrowmasterstoped using it back when i got my zg raptor
07:34.38Arrowmasterstoped using the zg raptor when i got my black war kodo
07:34.42sedatedChipmunkoriginal frostsabre still my favorite
07:34.59Arrowmasterivory raptors too
07:36.20ckknightfound a bug!
07:36.28sedatedChipmunk*whap*
07:36.45sedatedChipmunkoops, sorry Wobin
07:37.12sedatedChipmunkthe antennae threw me off
07:39.04trhouch.. they made the invulnerability potions pretty useless
07:39.30ZealotOnAStickThey were too useful for cheesing certain things.
07:39.56ZealotOnAStickNef's adds back in the day . . . the falling ceilings on Magtheridon (though, you know, just moving works well too)
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07:40.33trhtrue
07:40.40Punkie``~whalenuke Punkie`
07:40.49purlACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Punkie` with his mind powers
07:40.49Punkie``:(
07:41.29Roartindonback in the day, it was horde's answer to not having BoP on things like nef
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07:41.56Roartindonbut I guess horde having pallys that are level 70 now negates the need for the potion
07:42.14ZealotOnAStickMy answer was "The Big One" along with letting the mages start the AoE first.
07:42.42RoartindonAs a mage, I'm glad we had them back then :)
07:42.58RoartindonSaved countless nef deaths I'm sure.. :)
07:43.41sedatedChipmunkholy water + cannonball runner = weeeboomboombooom
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07:44.10Fisker-"so any 2.1.0 info and datamining up yet?"
07:44.11Roartindonholy water was sick when we first used it.. don't know if it's still the case, but we got full + healing on each holy water in the aoe
07:44.11Fisker-:o
07:44.14Roartindonerr. +damage
07:44.57vhaarrFisker-: nubcaek
07:44.58vhaarrhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/
07:45.04knarf-can you see talent trees for ptr ?
07:45.57Fisker-nothing good there yet vhaarr
07:48.07trhi always hated nef when we wiped because of a dumb fear... horde = no dorf priests
07:48.51trhit's still unbalanced in some encounters that horde doesnt have fear ward
07:49.11Punkie`ah well
07:49.26knarf-http://uncutvideo.aol.com/videos/month/popular/80befd9e84c2d915fa80835c7b680e87?index=6 <-- what the deuce
07:49.26vhaarrIt's *always* unbalanced in PvP that Horde has undeads.
07:49.36Diaolol
07:49.55Diaotbh I'd rather have fear ward than wotf
07:50.01trhDiao: true
07:50.03Diaofor pvp
07:50.26RoartindonI'd far prefer fear ward.. I don't pvp much; and the number of times we've had problems with fear in pve.. :)
07:50.38Diaothat too
07:50.44DiaoI hate how blizzard says
07:51.02Diao"Oh don't worry about alliance getting fear ward, we're making encounters less dependent on fear"
07:51.08Diaoand basically every fight in outlands has fear
07:51.17nymbiaevery one, eh?
07:51.29DiaoWell obviously I'm exaggerating :P
07:51.32trhDiao: not every fight, but alot.. and they are often dependent on it.. especially in heroic instances
07:51.36DiaoBut there are a lot of fear fights in instances
07:51.50trhonce the maintank is gone and the boss 2hits every else.... great :/
07:52.17mitch0there is that PITA quest (marked as 4 man group) in shadowmoon valley. there the fear is sucky too
07:52.26DiaoYeah
07:52.28DiaoSlave Pens :\
07:52.42trhDiao: i thought of first boss in durnholde
07:52.59RoartindonThe one I hate (fear wise).. is the one at the end of the gauntlet in heroic SH
07:53.00[Ammo]morning
07:53.02trhDiao: sure, it's possible without fear ward, but it plays a major role in the fight
07:53.04NightHawkTheSanemitch0: that green core hound?
07:53.07DiaoYeah
07:53.09NightHawkTheSanemitch0: pfffft. thats not hard
07:53.12mitch0no
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07:53.22mitch0that battle of something
07:53.26RoartindonNo casting time on the fear for him, so our tanks can't stance dance
07:53.42trhwtf
07:53.42trh<PROTECTED>
07:53.42trh<PROTECTED>
07:53.45RoartindonAnd the fear goes for ages, and if I resist, I get eaten
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07:53.54mitch04 waves of mobs, 1 big AOE, then 2 eye or brain things that fear and nuke really hard
07:53.58mitch0we wiped on those
07:54.09Roartindonoh yeah.
07:54.10NightHawkTheSaneoh wait, yeah i know what you mean
07:54.13mitch0the there'd come 4 elites and a final "boss"
07:54.14RoartindonThat's the crystal prison thing
07:54.15trhmitch0: ya. we tried that quest with 8 people
07:54.18trhmitch0: we wiped
07:54.23mitch0:)
07:54.29RoartindonTried it recently?
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07:54.33RoartindonIt was made a lot easier in 2.0.10
07:54.41trhi think it was before 2.0.10
07:54.42Roartindon5 manned it 3 times since
07:54.44mitch0we tried it after 2.0.10 and we wiped
07:54.56mitch0not ideal party though, but still
07:54.57Roartindonbefore 2.0.10 I wouldn
07:55.02Roartindonwouldn't be able to 5 man it :)
07:55.06mitch0at the end we tried with 7 ppl and we still wiped :)
07:55.16ZealotOnAStick"Silver Riding Nether Ray"
07:55.20mitch0we didn't have fear ward though
07:55.27trhfunny thing though is, that these 8 people were all karazhan ready equipped and cleared karazhan more than once (of course with 2 more people)
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07:56.36vhaarrthen you suck
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07:56.49vhaarrwe did it when we reached 70 with no tbc epics and 5 people
07:57.17trhvhaarr: i don't know why we wiped, but there were 4 eyes, is that normal?
07:57.30vhaarrI don't remember, we did it 3 months ago
07:57.40mitch0btw, is that fire-whirlwind AOE aura on those spellcasters in Mechanar purgable?
07:57.49[Ammo]yeah
07:57.56vhaarrindeed it is
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07:58.04[Ammo]and stealable :p
07:58.04mitch0yesterday the shaman in the party said he can't purge it... I head to spellsteal it for loads of mana...
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07:58.14mitch0s/head/had/
07:58.20vhaarrwell
07:58.22vhaarrI can dispel it
07:58.28knarf-mitch0 mind control can also be used :)
07:58.29vhaarrso I just assume it's purgable
07:58.35NoekoePucmel
07:58.37Noekoepurl
07:58.45knarf-it can be dispelled atleast
07:58.45Noekoerolf like you need 20k mana on those trash adds :p
07:58.47mitch0we didn't have priest
07:58.47NightHawkTheSane"had to steal it" and "had" to use it on enemies for butloads of damage
07:58.59Noekoejustr steal it man who cares about mana at mobs
07:59.00mitch0Noekoe: it's not the point! :)
07:59.19[Ammo]you have an ability that aids the group at that point, use it
07:59.33Noekoeyou have more with the ability spellsteal..
07:59.37Noekoeif you purge ts gone
07:59.38mitch0besides, I had to get it off myself so that I don't break sheep and stuff
07:59.38[Ammo]I just hate blizzard for not making the chasing elementals at the 3rd boss banishable :p
07:59.45Noekoeyou want to know for how much that crist on mobs? :P
07:59.52[Ammo]but I guess that woul dmake that boss truly cupcakes in heroic
08:00.04NightHawkTheSane[Ammo]: 2nd boss you mean? and yeah, it would
08:00.12[Ammo]oh yeah second
08:00.12knarf-ammo hehe, we ended up with a cute heroic strategy for that one
08:00.22[Ammo]we finish final boss first
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08:00.27[Ammo]then someone aggroes em all
08:00.27mitch0Noekoe: not worth it.. only IB saved me when I tried to use it on a pull :) (along with AE spam)
08:00.28knarf-ammo same here
08:00.28Noekoekill last boss first and kite him to last boss room
08:00.32[Ammo]and runs the fuck to the last boss
08:00.32[Ammo]yeah
08:00.36NightHawkTheSane*nod*
08:00.39[Ammo]while the remaining 4 kill the boss
08:01.07Noekoeammo can you tell me how you agro those elementals?
08:01.15mitch0[Ammo]: we just pull the boss towards last boss and the elementals slowly come after us
08:01.24[Ammo]well
08:01.26knarf-we jsut had the tank "dr00d in cat with dash" pull him and run to the last boss room, before the elementals would be at us we would have killed the boss
08:01.26knarf-:P
08:01.37[Ammo]everyone stands just past the doorway from the elemental boss towards the last boss
08:01.51[Ammo]one person goes up pulls
08:01.56[Ammo]in case of a hunter multishots or whatever
08:01.59[Ammo]and just runs the fuck away
08:02.09[Ammo]he runs past the group near the doorway
08:02.10Noekoehm so the elemntals will gop for him
08:02.14[Ammo]tank picks up boss
08:02.22Noekoekkneed to try that
08:02.23[Ammo]drags it back
08:02.37[Ammo]finish it before the elementals are back :)
08:02.41knarf-ammo too advanced just everyone stand at the last bossroom :P
08:02.44knarf-except the tank :P
08:02.58[Ammo]this one is more fun :p
08:02.59knarf-who comes running towards you like a madman, the elementals is so damn slow :P
08:03.08[Ammo]that would work too
08:03.10[Ammo]it's similar shrug
08:03.13knarf-ye
08:03.21[Ammo]we tried it normal
08:03.23[Ammo]failed at 10% :(
08:03.25knarf-but not that much hassle in picking up the adds and such
08:03.30mitch0hm. probly both of your strats are easier then ours :)
08:03.33[Ammo]so then decided the kite
08:03.40mitch0at least more caster friendly
08:04.18Punkie`what you talking about Ammo?
08:04.23Punkie`TEH MECH?
08:04.25[Ammo]yeah
08:04.26Punkie`on erotic mode?
08:04.28[Ammo]yeah
08:04.38[Ammo]jmk, me, gurth, mith, katie
08:04.44Punkie`yeah
08:04.49[Ammo]hunter, lock, lock, shaman, warr
08:04.49Punkie`its like 5 free badges
08:04.52[Ammo]yup
08:04.55Punkie`you dont need a hunter
08:05.02Punkie`we did it with gleeny the mage
08:05.03[Ammo]well jmk was willing to go :p
08:05.12[Ammo]and no-one else was
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08:05.13[Ammo]so he did it
08:05.17Punkie`hehe
08:05.27Fisker-http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/fel_orc_dire.png <-lmao wtf
08:05.31[Ammo]2 locks makes it even more cakewalk
08:05.36[Ammo]banish on the trash etc
08:05.38Punkie`they changed prince though :(
08:05.41mitch0[Ammo]: did you kill the boss before the elementals caught up with the bait?
08:05.49Punkie`we can't use our uber tactic of pwn
08:05.54evlawwww
08:05.56[Ammo]mitch0: the bait circles the last boss room
08:05.57[Ammo]and comes back
08:06.00evlthey killed cgCrafty in patch
08:06.00[Ammo]but yeah
08:06.21[Ammo]I got pussywhipped lastnight so I couldn't come Karazhan Punk :(
08:06.33Punkie`you didnt want too
08:06.36Punkie`it was AWFUL
08:06.48[Ammo]oh dear
08:06.58Punkie`imagine
08:06.59Roartindonheh, hopefully not as awful as the one I had to run last week
08:07.06Punkie`not being able to get past curator
08:07.09RoartindonTook a few new people on trial for the guild to aran
08:07.12[Ammo]Roartindon: last tuesday we didn't kill a single mob :(
08:07.22RoartindonAnd they just blew us up flame wreath after flame wreath
08:07.23[Ammo]ugh
08:07.23Roartindonfor 4 hours
08:07.25ZealotOnAStickMeh.
08:07.26RoartindonSo they're not getting uilded
08:07.30Punkie`haha
08:07.33[Ammo]it's not hard to stand still
08:07.35ZealotOnAStickI need to go run Kara enough to finish my faction.
08:07.37*** join/#wowace knarf^_^ (n=knarf@0x57366845.odnxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
08:07.37Punkie`yeah
08:07.47[Ammo]unless you're a spacebar jumping kinda freak
08:07.50ZealotOnAStickI've got the dagger from Prince, there's nothing else there I want now other than the slightly better ring.
08:08.01Punkie`I need the melee dagger :(
08:08.12RoartindonI was playing a healer for the run too; and could easily watch flame wreath + healing /etc
08:08.19Punkie`I have the ring
08:08.29Punkie`the ring with a powerlevel of OVER NINE THOUSAND that is
08:08.32RoartindonOh, and then the last attempt we got the elemental spawns; and the warlock just stood there dpssing aran
08:08.37Roartindon25 seconds later, no banish, or fear
08:08.43[Ammo]ugh
08:08.50RoartindonIt's going to be good running with my usual group again soon :)
08:09.31knarf^_^me, a prot warrior and a hunter took aran from 9% to kill :P
08:09.40Roartindonit's going to be even better when I can commit to dev.wowace.com in an hour
08:09.47knarf^_^i'm a priest holy/disc :P
08:10.09knarf^_^was fun ::)
08:10.20Roartindonpeople still play holy/disc priests? :P
08:10.24Punkie`Roartindon: My PC died last night because of Aloft, but it was my fault :(
08:10.33knarf^_^Roartindon i'm oly/disc incarnated :>
08:10.34Punkie`it even blue screened!
08:10.42knarf^_^holy*
08:10.53knarf^_^Roartindon I dislike shadow :/
08:10.53Roartindonheh, I wish Aloft had that power :) could really use it on some people :)
08:11.01Punkie`Well it does
08:11.09Punkie`if you leave nameplate modifier enabled
08:11.32Roartindonhmm interesting; someone else was saying he was running both simultaneously.. just that it looked wrong
08:11.40Punkie`well
08:11.50Punkie`it could have been that i was in shattrath
08:11.52RoartindonAt the same time tho; modifying nameplates is nasty business
08:11.58Punkie`yeah
08:12.04RoartindonCheck the comment in CastBarOverlay.lua
08:12.13Punkie`I was getting BSoD of memory errors
08:12.40RoartindonFrom CastBarOverlay.lua: "If we try to make castBarOverlay reference castBar, the game just blows up."
08:12.57Punkie`hehe
08:13.17Punkie`well, I don't like Aloft because I can't customize it how I like, but that's personal taste
08:13.28Punkie`at least, not from the options i could see
08:13.44RoartindonAnd what options would you need to see?
08:13.49RoartindonTo be able to customize it how you want?
08:14.01Punkie`well, I don't like how everything seems to be squished onto one bar
08:14.12evlckknight: I tried making my own layout for PitBull, so far I have some questions: 1. Why is combotext shown as 0 instead of being hidden? 2. Why doesn't combotext hide itself after a target is dead? 3. 3D portraits seem to be a bit off from the rest of the elements in the frame, i was never able to position it correctly. 4. Is there anyway to alter the fontsize of certain elements? I tried with combotext but it keeps resetting to default.
08:14.15Punkie`I would like to be able to move the nametext to above the bar and center it for example
08:14.19Roartindonyou can
08:14.23Punkie`unless that is already possible?
08:14.25Punkie`:O!
08:14.29RoartindonName Text -> alignment -> CENTER, Vertical offset -
08:14.42ckknightevl: 1) cause that's the way it is. It could be hidden by changing [combos] to [combos:hidezero]
08:14.45RoartindonYou can reposition just about anything, on and off the bar
08:14.57evlckknight: thanks
08:15.00ckknight2) I should make a hideifgone modifier
08:15.18Fisker-2 minutes until i finally got teh ptr :o
08:15.40mitch0any point in gaining kurenai rep?
08:15.43Roartindonyou can pull elements like level text, boss icons, etc all outside of the bar
08:15.45Fisker-no
08:15.53knarf^_^mitch0 there is allways a point in gaing rep :>
08:15.57RoartindonJust that they default to be on it
08:16.03Fisker-i disagree
08:16.12mitch0havent found any for kurenai and the spore guys
08:16.19knarf^_^Fisker- if you got nothing else to do ^^
08:16.42dottedknarf^_^ whats the point in getting syndicate rep then?
08:16.44Fisker-I'd rather jump around in orgrimmar than grind thrallmar/kurenai rep or sporeggar for that matter
08:16.45evlknarf^_^, mitch0: I agree, I just grinded consortium to exalted and everyone called me an idoiot, behold new faction crap to get in next patch :P
08:16.46RoartindonI'll have to add in the Aloft_Themes addon sometime, which provides pre-built aloft setups
08:17.05Fisker-evl i don't think they have any new items or anything like that
08:17.05RoartindonJust so it's clear that there's a lot of stuff that can be moved around :)
08:17.11CIA-1103ckknight * r32525 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added hidegone modifier. hides text if the unit is dead/ghost/offline
08:17.13Fisker-only new quests which us non-exalted people can use :P
08:17.14ckknightevl: 3) don't know
08:17.20ckknightevl: 4) don't know
08:17.40knarf^_^dotted you will never know !
08:17.49evlckknight: I think the SetFont is called after the element is created by ComboPoints making it reset
08:17.54knarf^_^i'm sure they implement some rogueish stuff at some point :>
08:18.08evlckknight: also it would be nice if ABF.lua included the loading of it's font instead of PitBull lua imho :)
08:18.13Fisker-it's insane they actually gave us some significant buffs
08:18.22ckknightevl: its, not it's
08:18.25ckknightevl: but yea, probably
08:18.32ckknightevl: *shrug*
08:18.35mitch0actually, I need some netherweave, so I thought about grinding them ogres for them so that both my kurenai and consortium rep would go up
08:18.45evlzaxxis > ogres
08:18.46mitch0but I'm really not sure about the kurenai guys
08:18.48evlunless your gear is shit
08:18.48Punkie`Ok cheers Roartindon, i'll try it again tonight !
08:18.55mitch0evl: yep, that's what I'm thinking
08:19.08Roartindonpunkie: Just shift-click on the icon to bring up the full menu
08:19.17RoartindonSo you can see all of the configuration settings
08:19.29Punkie`oh, so you were hiding things from me :(
08:19.34mitch0but it's nicer to raise 2 reps at once :)
08:19.48Roartindonno, it's the same, but easier to see/view with the GUI interface
08:19.50mitch0I'm just undecisive about the kurenai
08:19.58Punkie`ok :)
08:20.05evlckknight: also, how can I access other frames from inside say a comboText function, I'd like my targets combotext placed inside my own portrait
08:20.20Fisker-btw isn't 2.1.0 like the most major patch they've ever released?
08:20.25ckknightframe.comboText:SetPoint("CENTER", frame.portrait, "CENTER")
08:20.32ckknightor wait
08:20.33ckknightother frames
08:20.35ckknightno, can't do that.
08:20.35Roartindonckknight: He wants to reference a different frame
08:20.40Fisker-Our forums went down the drain when i posted the notes
08:20.41RoartindonI don't think it'll ever support that
08:20.49ckknightyea, I don't plan to
08:20.56ckknightFisker-: 2.0 was bigger
08:21.03ckknightFisker-: imho
08:21.14Fisker-atleast more doccumented changes in 2.1 :P
08:21.33Punkie`Roartindon, you can change the height of the nameplate from the characters head in aloft yes?
08:21.53evlckknight: isn't there a reference in PitBull? Like PitBull.frames["player"] ?
08:22.03Roartindonno, that's positioned by the game; but you can change the height/width of the nameplate
08:22.11Punkie`oh, ok :)
08:22.15ckknightevl: yea, don't use that.
08:22.23ckknightit's icky.
08:22.30ckknightyou could, tough
08:22.32ckknightthough*
08:22.39ckknightPitBull:GetUnitFrame("player")
08:22.42ckknightI don't recommend it, though
08:22.55evlckknight: you said the other day you made it to be easily hackable, that is hacking :D
08:23.03[Ammo]haha
08:23.13ckknightyour mom's easily hackable.
08:23.22Roartindona better hack
08:23.27Roartindonwould be to enable combo points display for the player
08:23.30Roartindonand not on the target
08:23.35Roartindonso that you don't have the cross frame ick-ery
08:23.46evltrue :)
08:23.48[Ammo]that's an easy change in combopoints.lua :p
08:23.49mitch0are the patchnotes up already or something? I mean, official ones
08:23.55Punkie`yes
08:24.00evlhttp://usaklig.net/patchnotes.html
08:24.00[Ammo]I'll think about it after my deadline of 13:13 on friday the 13th
08:24.04[Ammo]silly deadlines :)
08:24.23RoartindonJust change all of the "target" references in ComboPoints to "player"
08:24.25Punkie`Roartindon, can I give you 2 quick requests if they aren't there already? :)
08:24.36RoartindonPunkie`: sure
08:24.36mitch0evl: thanks
08:25.19Punkie`Roartindon: View peoples guild (toggle, probably there) and to have like, a * after their name if they are afk, for instance Punkie*, as you can't tell with default nameplates when someone is afk
08:25.38mitch0btw, what is the starting quest for that netherdrake thingy? feeding them in Shadowmoon?
08:25.49*** join/#wowace sbu (n=sb@dslb-084-056-179-156.pools.arcor-ip.net)
08:25.50RoartindonHmm.. is it possible to determine a guild name from a unitid?
08:26.01NightHawkTheSanemitch0: yes, presumably
08:26.06knarf^_^mitch0 think so
08:26.18NightHawkTheSaneas it leads to you getting neutral rep with netherwing faction
08:26.20mitch0I've fed 1 already :)
08:26.50dottedNightHawkTheSane accoriding to the patch notes it is
08:26.53mitch0ah, do you really have to stand very still while they eat? the quest giver told me so, and I didn't want to risk it :)
08:26.57Roartindonhmm... I'll do something with the guild sometime
08:27.05RoartindonAFK I don't thnk I can do
08:27.31mitch0isn't the guild info enough in the tooltip?
08:27.47mitch0like, do you really have to have that information constantly available?
08:27.50Fisker-omg
08:27.53Fisker-i'm on ptr
08:27.54Fisker-!11
08:28.07ZealotOnAStickGuild thing, I know you can get it if they're in inspect distance, not sure out of it.
08:28.08evlRogue poisons no longer have charges. "Sap" now automatically gains the full benefit of "Improved Sap".
08:28.14Roartindonmitch0: I can see it being kind of useful
08:28.17evl*the screams of a thousand rejoicing pve rogues*
08:28.36Punkie`<PROTECTED>
08:28.37Roartindonas long as I can alias longer guild names to short ones
08:28.46Punkie`Ditto, Roartindon.
08:28.51mitch0Chance to break crowd control from damage: The increased chance for a spell to break from taking a critical strike has been removed. Instead, all targets over level 60 have a slightly larger chance to break out of crowd-controlling effects when they take damage.
08:28.53mitch0hm...
08:29.05ZealotOnAStickThe combo point thing surprised me.
08:29.37Roartindonzealot: Combo point thing?
08:29.38trhmitch0: sounds like a affliction-warlock nerf and a destro warlock buff
08:29.56mitch0I think it also affects frost nova
08:30.04ZealotOnAStickCombo point counter on the side of the nameplate.
08:30.18Punkie`evl: - Male gnome /cheer animation is no longer incomplete!
08:30.20ckknightgah, both PTR realms are down
08:30.21RoartindonOh yeah, someone mentioned they though it'd be cool, so I added it :)
08:30.24mitch0not that it'd make any difference (as the previous nerf to it didn't make any difference either, just caused a lot of whine on the mage forum)
08:30.28ckknightI need to do testing with CreateWorldMapArrowFrame
08:30.31evlPunkie`: In the Black Morass, gnomes are now able to run through the water like other races.
08:30.37evlEnd the gnome oppression!
08:30.45Punkie`<PROTECTED>
08:30.50ZealotOnAStickIt's useful, I just didn't notice the commit note on it, and caught it on my druid last night, was like "oooh . . . nifty."
08:30.51NightHawkTheSanebut we like gnome oppresssion
08:30.54Punkie`<PROTECTED>
08:31.09Punkie`They missed one important fix :(
08:31.11trhckknight: addon developers should get their own unpopulated, always working ptr before the normal ptrs everyone else gets are up :)
08:31.12ZealotOnAStickI sorta wonder if adding guild info to nameplates isn't getting too much, though.
08:31.18ckknighttrh: I agree :-P
08:31.24ZealotOnAStickThis is almost turning into scaled down unit frames.
08:31.30Punkie`I want to be able to fish just as well as any other race :(
08:31.30Aenslaedugh... this new patch, I dont know
08:31.39RoartindonZealot: I have this policy about modules... if they're not being used, they can't take up any run time data or cpu
08:31.39evlwhy? :P
08:31.52evlrogues get a ton more damage, imp sap, no more 60 stacks of poisons!
08:31.56Aenslaedthey nerfed my t4 feral armor :/
08:32.08evlhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/druidhorde.jpg
08:32.08Aenslaedremoved dps in favor for... armor?
08:32.09RoartindonZealotOnAStick: I can add guild member information to the system, and alias of guild names.
08:32.10evlhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/druidalliance.jpg
08:32.20RoartindonZealotOnAStick: And if the player hasn't selected them, then nothing is gathered/storede
08:32.20Aenslaedevl: yeah, saw it on EJ forums
08:32.27mitch0"Cyclone": This ability will no longer work on hunters with "The Beast Within" active or hunter pets with "Bestial Wrath" active. <- then why can't I IB out of it or the pala bubble out of it? :(
08:32.38ZealotOnAStickLOL!
08:32.42Diaobecause
08:32.46Diaothey are "unstoppable unless killed"
08:32.47Diao:P
08:32.48Punkie`evl: OMG I never read the removal of charges :O
08:32.48NightHawkTheSanebecause mages and pallies are already too powerful
08:32.54NightHawkTheSane.... not that hunters arnt.. >.>
08:32.54Aenslaedmitch0: you can't cyclone a pally with bubble up
08:32.58evlPunkie`: it's NISE :D
08:33.03Punkie`YES!
08:33.05[Ammo]they are SPARTA
08:33.07ZealotOnAStickNaruto Shippuuden 8/9 message: "We were going to say something about nappy-headed hoes, but we don't want to get fired from fansubbing."
08:33.10evlPunkie`: can run an entire kara raid on four stacks of deadly :D
08:33.22sbu"Surge of Light": "Smite" spells triggered by this talent will no longer sometimes critically strike
08:33.23sbumeeehh
08:33.25sbuohno :(
08:33.36Aenslaedmitch0: That just means that cyclone no longer affects targets which are immune to status effect changes.
08:33.43mitch0ah
08:34.05mitch0well, whatever. it's still the most OP CC in game at the moment (arena-wise)
08:34.05Roartindonwooo.. my ISP's refreshed it's transparent proxy bypass IP list
08:34.08RoartindonTime to commit...
08:34.33CIA-1103roartindon * r32526 10Aloft/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
08:34.33CIA-11Aloft
08:34.33CIA-11- Added support for optionally provided data
08:34.33CIA-11- Added many more visibility control options
08:34.53sbuuhm
08:34.54sbu"Sap" no longer removes you from stealth when used.
08:35.02sbuso they have improved sap by default?
08:35.14Aenslaedyes
08:35.14Punkie`congrats on being able to read
08:35.15Roartindonsounds like it, with 100% chance
08:35.33mitch0are these patchnotes real? some stuff sounds fishy
08:35.38Punkie`yes
08:35.40sbuhmm blue :o
08:35.43Punkie`they are PTR patch notes
08:35.58NightHawkTheSanethey are real
08:36.07trhmitch0: they are real
08:36.09mitch0what's the official link?
08:36.16trhmitch0: theres none afaik
08:36.21trhmitch0: but its in the us-ptr-client
08:36.23Roartindonmitch0: download the client, and you'll get them
08:36.25ckknightmitch0: install the PTR and see
08:36.27NightHawkTheSanemitch0: nothing on the web, but i'm reading them in the client directory now
08:36.30ckknightit's the real notes
08:36.42mitch0just too many bugfixes and weird changes in the mage class :)
08:36.42NightHawkTheSanewow, i feel bad for mitch0's highlight ping.
08:36.45mitch0can't be true
08:37.03Roartindonwell, they did say they fixed AM like.. 2 years ag
08:37.04Roartindono
08:37.05Roartindonago*
08:37.05trhmitch0: well... if blizzard says they fixed something it must not be true
08:37.06mitch0the CS change is kinda strange, for example. dunno if it's a buff or a nerf :)
08:37.10trhmitch0: :)
08:37.17Roartindonbuff, definitely
08:37.29sbuwah
08:37.33mitch0for Imp. CS guys, surely. for me, I'm not quite sure
08:37.34evlbuff, it's much more flexible
08:37.36Punkie`I can't believe they are breaking our easymode tactic on the prince :(
08:37.39sbu"Insignia of the Alliance/Horde" and "Medallion of the Alliance/Horde" now remove "Fear", "Stun" and "Slowing" effects and no longer remove "Charm" and "Polymorph" effects. <-- thats bad :/
08:37.46evlPunkie`: waht was the tactic? :P
08:37.51NightHawkTheSanewell, a 6s reduction on CD, and 2s reduction on effect? so chain c asting it'd be a net 4s gain in uptime?
08:37.55NightHawkTheSanei call that a buff
08:37.57Punkie`we positioned him at his door
08:38.02Roartindonmitch0: I don't have imp CS, and I can see 24sec being far more useful on PvE fights like aran/cthun/etc than 30 sec
08:38.05Punkie`and all the ranged and healers stood in the corridor
08:38.06Roartindon30 sec was really limiting on cthun
08:38.08evlon prince we always did: "It's a good infernal, it's a good infernal, it's a bad infernal" *wipe*
08:38.21Punkie`we never got hit by infernals
08:38.27mitch0Roartindon: for pve it's definitely a buff, yeah
08:38.33mitch0well, maybe overall it's a buff :)
08:38.49sbuoh - lol
08:38.54sbuthere are different insignias now?
08:39.03mitch0hm. +5 dmg by arctic winds...
08:39.07NightHawkTheSanenot different ones, they just changed the existing ones
08:39.11trhPunkie`: standing in the tunnel?
08:39.13mitch0maybe I'll go really full-frost now
08:39.17Punkie`trh: yeah
08:39.19Fisker-haha
08:39.20Fisker-i told you
08:39.26sbuwell NightHawkTheSane, but its "no longer charm/polymorph for locks"
08:40.35trhPunkie`: ya.. but it was foreseeable that they fix that
08:40.36Fisker-the you are mounted automatically dismounts works on flying mount :D
08:40.36sbubut "no longer slowing for warriors"
08:40.36NightHawkTheSanesbu: well, yeah. semantics i guess
08:40.36mitch0dunno how much I'll miss the +hit from arcane though
08:40.36Roartindonmitch0: got 2 piece T4?
08:40.36mitch0not yet
08:40.36NightHawkTheSanei mean, its not like they're different items you CAN get, its that existing items are changing :)
08:40.36mitch0why?
08:40.36RoartindonI think arcane/frost with 2 piece T4 might be really dececnt
08:40.44RoartindonSince you can (ab)use the arcane blast debuff to get improved dps without increased mana cost
08:40.49Punkie`I hope the warlocks will shut up now they have that trinket change
08:40.49mitch0Roartindon: it's the uninterruptible frostbolt thing, right? the T4 2 piece bonus
08:40.58Punkie`even though they will still be easily killable
08:41.04Roartindonshit, I'm thinking 2 piece T5..
08:41.05yacoob*ravage*
08:41.14Roartindon30% more damage on arcane blast :)
08:41.19mitch0ah
08:41.32mitch0I like the t4 bonus better :)
08:41.42RoartindonT4 2 piece is king for fire mages :)
08:41.42sbu"Masquerade Gown" will now be triggered correctly by any spell, not just critical strikes. <-- ahhhhh
08:41.42mitch0but this arctic winds change really made me think :\
08:41.45NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: they'll just keep whingning about mages now
08:41.49sbuthat was the problem :o
08:41.52mitch0any mage playing without the +hit arcane talents?
08:41.54sbu<3
08:42.15mitch0how sucky is it with poly? many early breaks?
08:43.25nymbiaNetherspite's room now has a door.
08:43.30nymbialol
08:43.47sbuhttp://www.duostrike.com/vxix/WoWScrnShot_041207_234033.jpg
08:43.47sbuok
08:43.49sbuTHIS is nice
08:44.30mitch0wtf. IB nerf! the forums will be all over with the whining again :(
08:44.45sbuIB?
08:44.48Diaoiceblock
08:44.49sbuah
08:44.50NightHawkTheSaneice block
08:45.07*** join/#wowace Tenrai (n=Tenrai@a82-92-149-38.adsl.xs4all.nl)
08:45.25sbuwell its only that 30s thing?
08:45.26mitch0Molten Armor": This ability will no longer be triggered erroneously by some non-melee attacks, such as "Feral Faerie Fire". It will also no longer break crowd controlling affects such as "Polymorph".
08:45.34mitch0are you bloody sure these notes are real? :)
08:45.40NightHawkTheSaneyep
08:45.44sbupallys will whine
08:45.52sbuillumination nerf is hueg
08:45.54trhnymbia: what?
08:46.02mitch0"Water Elemental": This pet will now come into the game with full health and mana, including that gained from a percentage of its master's stamina and intellect.
08:46.10mitch0more and more unbelievable
08:46.13sbulol
08:46.13trhnymbia: does that mean you have to stay in his room while netherbreath?
08:46.21NightHawkTheSanemitch0: same with shammy totetm pets. woo :)
08:46.38mitch0there must be some pretty damn annoying stealth nerf hidden though
08:46.51nymbiatrh: yup
08:46.56sbuwtb invisibility nerf :p
08:46.59Punkie`evl: I can't wait for the glancing blow changes though :)
08:47.06mitch0sbu: eh?
08:47.16sbuits overpowered in arena :o
08:47.25evlPunkie`: yeah, dunno if I'm gonna change to combat daggers then, i'm combat mutil now
08:47.26mitch0eh, no way
08:47.27sbu2 mages + rogue -> instant kill
08:47.46mitch0mage comes out of invis as soon as he starts to cast...
08:47.53sbuyeah
08:47.54Punkie`evl: I'll probably go combat mutilate, i love the build
08:47.57mitch0can't cast instant either, as he has no target
08:48.05sbupresence of mind + pyro :o
08:48.07trhnymbia: guess i'm lucky i dont need anything from him anymore :)
08:48.10mitch0and he's visible before he can target anything
08:48.15Punkie`atm I am mutilate then sidelined into imp sap :(
08:48.33sbuyeah, you can see 1s before pyro hits
08:48.34evlwtf imp sap?
08:48.37evlimp sap == l2p
08:48.43Fisker-the netherwing questline is already awesome :O
08:48.46evljust get endurance and use sprint/evasion/blind when pulling
08:48.53ckknightis it just me or does anyone else not like the scriptErrors change?
08:49.50sbu"Lifegiving Gem": This item will now only increase maximum and current health of the user by 1500. It will not also heal the user for 1500. <-- uh
08:49.54evlPunkie`: I would never sacrifice the like 50% damage increase just to get imp sap imho :P
08:50.02trhckknight: i dont like it too - maybe ace should add a errorhandler and display them?
08:50.10mitch0ckknight: the ones that auto-hides errors?
08:50.19ckknightmitch0: yea, autohides by default
08:50.26mitch0can it be turned on?
08:50.47ckknightI believe so
08:50.49sbuYou can now unspecialize in tailoring and leatherworking, and then select a new specialization. This is a repeatable choice, but costs gold each time. <-- haha @alchemy :p
08:50.50ckknightlemme check
08:50.56mitch0well, ace should turn it on then :)
08:51.03ckknightI dunno
08:51.07ckknightit'd need to be discussed
08:51.10trhimo the behaviour should be: HIDE when in combat, else show it
08:51.15art3mis"Vampiric Touch": This spell now consumes the "Inner Focus buff".  inner focus allows for free vt casts?
08:51.16trhshow after combat
08:51.20sbuall those guys w/ elixiers spec are going to cry :o
08:51.33mitch0ckknight: should be able to turn it off for ace as well, but the default should be ON, imo
08:51.50trhckknight: create a poll in the boards :)
08:52.37knarf^_^http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=32548 <---- whats that? :>
08:53.02art3mis# Enchanting recipes that increase spell damage now also increase healing as well.  oooooooooooooooo
08:53.23sbulol
08:53.47sbuhttp://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/HaklePrime/WoWScrnShot_041307_043927.jpg <-- +11mp5 - now it isnt that useless anymore :o
08:54.02sbuwtb more trinket slots :/
08:54.03knarf^_^nice
08:54.16knarf^_^I took it because I hoped it would be updated :P
08:54.19knarf^_^sbu :P
08:55.33Fisker-http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/1.jpg
08:55.34Fisker-:D
08:55.45sbuMillhouse Manastorm will now only award players credit for completing the "Trial of the Naaru: Tenacity" upon the death of Harbinger Skyriss and only ONCE. Players will no longer receive credit through a gossip option on Millhouse.
08:55.45sbuuhm
08:55.58sbuthat means you can talk to him to complete the quest?
08:56.03nymbiayup
08:56.07nymbiaat the moment anyway
08:56.15nymbialol @ flask nerfs
08:56.18sbuyep....
08:56.27sbu400 HP titans
08:56.36sbuand 25mp5 restoration :/
08:56.40Diaoo_O
08:56.43Diao400 hp titans?
08:56.46sbuyep
08:56.52DiaoIs flask of fort nerfed too?
08:56.52sbuhttp://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=10978
08:56.54nymbia500hp 10 def on fortificaion
08:56.56Diaothe 1500 hp/25 def one
08:56.56sbuofc
08:57.01Diaowow..
08:57.12sbuhmmm
08:57.16DiaoThat's pretty weak
08:57.25nymbia65 int on distilled wis
08:57.26DiaoNot really worth the mats to make o_O
08:57.28sbuwhining from ppl w/ 20 supreme power @ bank :p
08:57.28trh1441-  Holding down the shift key while mousing over an equippable item
08:57.29trh1442   that you can use will now show you the tooltip for the item you
08:57.29trh1443   currently have equipped in that slot as well (much like how the auction
08:57.29trh1444   house currently works).
08:57.31trhsounds nice :)
08:57.49Fisker-http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/2.jpg <<-netherray mount
08:58.31ckknight<PROTECTED>
08:58.40trhFisker-: uh? doesnt it take a while to get the reputation needed?
08:58.59[Ammo]doesn't look like a regular server to me
08:59.05Diaoon test realm they make stuff faster usually
08:59.07Diaoin terms of rep etc
08:59.23Fisker-trh the quest involves serving illidan
08:59.36Fisker-and you get disguised with a nether drake mount + fel orc each time you enter the area
08:59.51trhFisker-: ah.. ok :)
08:59.55sbuPrince Malchezaar's door will now close when his encounter begins.
08:59.57sbuNOOOOOO
08:59.58sbu:o
09:00.09sbuthis is going to be a problem :p
09:00.12trhoh lol.. i know a thing that i'll disable INSTANTLY when i login the first time: auto-dismount!
09:00.26trhjust imagine you fly high above somewhere, and accidently press a cast button
09:00.35nymbiasbu: why?
09:00.43Diaoyeah
09:00.44nymbiahe's so easy..
09:00.44trhnymbia: they use the cheap tactic ^^
09:00.48sbuyep :p
09:00.49trhnymbia: as everyone does ;)
09:00.53nymbiapft
09:01.04nymbiaits not like sidestepping some infernals is difficult
09:01.06Diaonot everyone
09:01.19trhYESS.. finally! feign death will no longer interrupt friendly spells
09:01.23Fisker-http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/3.jpg <-new mobs @ bt
09:01.27trhand i wont be shown dead to party/raid
09:02.05sbuNetherspite's room now has a door. <-- same here?
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09:02.45nymbiacourse
09:03.48Punkie`those portals with hands look cool
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09:04.31sbuYour current target will now display all of the duration based spells that you have cast on them with cooldown rings so you will know how much longer they will last. Very useful for warlock damage over time spells and druid healing over time spells as well as many others.
09:04.33sbuoh
09:04.41sbuthats nice
09:05.03trhsbu: also nice for hunter's mark :)
09:05.39nymbiaand all cc's
09:05.42Loki|muhas for stings
09:06.25sbuhm wonder if they make this also available via api?
09:06.29sbuso you can use it in addons?
09:06.32vhaarrThey do.
09:06.34vhaarrRead the forums.
09:06.43CIA-1103ckknight * r32527 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - use IsLoggedIn() in WoW 2.1
09:06.44vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5676.0
09:07.10sbuvhaarr: im not finished w/ patchnotes ;)
09:08.31Loki|muhpatchnotes? where?
09:08.41nymbiaptr forum
09:08.49Bibi`ouFeverywhere on the interweb
09:08.54Loki|muhthx
09:08.55nymbiathat too
09:08.58Bibi`ouFwww.mmo-champion.com !
09:09.17trhLoki|muh: http://ace.pastey.net/12052
09:10.28Loki|muhhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/engi_gun.jpg ZOMGWTF!
09:10.31Punkie`man, i never read the "Ice Block": This ability no longer makes mages immune to "Weakened Soul" from "Power Word: Shield". However, using this ability now causes "Hypothermia", making the mage unable to cast "Ice Block" again for 30 sec.
09:10.33Loki|muh:)
09:10.33Punkie`ho ho ho
09:10.51Loki|muhTHX GUYS :)
09:11.35sbuIn the Black Morass, gnomes are now able to run through the water like other races.
09:11.36sbulol
09:11.51[Ammo]yeah meh
09:13.39nymbiahmm.. are the US auth servers busted?
09:13.42[Ammo]awww...
09:13.42[Ammo]-  New art added for "Ritual of Souls" channeling focus and "Soulwell"
09:13.43[Ammo]487   created by the spell.
09:13.50Punkie`ya
09:13.51[Ammo]no more creating a ritual of doom
09:13.53[Ammo]sigh
09:13.56Punkie`:(
09:14.02Punkie`no more killing flappie :(
09:14.07Aenslaedsbu: lol, yeah. That was such a stupid bug
09:15.29abbat_wbtw about ice block ;)
09:15.31Punkie`yeah, there's an awesome comic about it: http://www.darklegacycomics.com/85.html
09:15.49abbat_wi don't think what blizzard make 30 sec CD for ice block
09:16.01trhPunkie`: i always thought gnomes deserve to drown :P
09:16.02abbat_wit's unreal nerf
09:16.27Punkie`trh: gnomes are better than you!
09:16.44abbat_wppff...
09:16.48trhPunkie`: ORC SMASH!
09:16.49abbat_wgnomes smell...
09:17.06trhPunkie`: uh.. shiny! ;)
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09:19.45sbui dont understand that hueg flask nerf... what was wrong with that?
09:19.46Punkie`The guy I usually PvP with is a gnome warrior
09:20.12Punkie`he was described as "A small armored cube of hate with a huge axe" :(
09:20.29sbulol
09:21.08trhPunkie`: we had a tauren warrior in a arathi/warsong group, he was described as indestructable hamburger ;)
09:22.01sbuok, have to get some feliron for new engineering goggles :p
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09:24.31Punkie`trh: haha
09:26.21mitch0doh. they changed the tunics to robes... why couldn't they just add a robe recipe, too...
09:26.59nymbiathey'd have to add it to the set
09:27.03Fisker-fuck blizzard
09:27.08nymbiawho the hell wants a vest anyway
09:27.14Fisker-it appears that some mobs can attack you in air and dismount you :Y
09:27.26ZealotOnAStickand people who'd already made the vest and didn't like it would bitch bitch bitch about "having" to spend all that money/mats to make it a robe.
09:27.28mitch0well, I don't know. I'm undecisive about that, too :) but I'd like the option :)
09:27.49nymbiano you wouldnt
09:27.52nymbiaits hideous
09:28.07mitch0well, no big deal, really
09:28.17mitch0I'm more concerned about the arctic winds change...
09:28.23nymbia?
09:28.37mitch0dunno if I should sacrifice my 5 points in arcane for that :)
09:28.53mitch0dunno how much trouble it would cause with poly resists/early breaks
09:29.01nymbiaits better than empowered frostbolt now
09:29.12nymbiano reason not to get it if you're that deep in frost
09:29.23mitch0then I'll be 0/0/61 :)
09:30.03mitch0just afraid of causing wipes in heroics with too many resisted polys
09:30.30abbat-wmitch0, why you have to much resist on arcane school?
09:30.50mitch0there's that 17% base resist for +3 level mobs
09:31.05mitch0I'd need a lot of +hit gear to compensate for that
09:31.19abbat-wwhere you find thrash with 73 lvl??
09:31.28HealthOnly bosses are.
09:31.33mitch0ah. good point ;)
09:31.41CIA-1103roartindon * r32528 10Aloft/CoreModules/ (HealthBar.lua NameText.lua):
09:31.41CIA-11Aloft
09:31.41CIA-11- Added a lot of extra color options to Name text
09:31.50vhaarrThere are level 73 mobs around.
09:31.55abbat-wsure, arctic wind looks nice
09:32.02vhaarrBlade's Edge, for example.
09:32.13mitch0Roartindon: what sort of coloring options, if I may ask?
09:32.13abbat-wbut i hope blizzard remove fucking 30 sec cd on block after use ;)
09:32.21evlhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5612688850717918383
09:32.23mitch0abbat_w: that's a bitch, yeah :)
09:32.27evlbest video of the 90s
09:32.35mitch0but it's probly there only for arenas, so I don't think they'll revert that
09:32.49abbat-wyep, it's critical for arena
09:32.55Roartindonmitch0: You can colour names by class, or by category (lots of expanded categories). Also added a set all option if you just want one colour for all your names
09:33.15abbat-wAnd i read about blizzard remove break cc effect after crit
09:33.21Roartindoncategories are friendly player/pet/npc/boss, group pet, pet and neutral
09:33.29abbat-wDoes this mean what nova back? :)
09:34.03mitch0abbat_w: I guess it applies to nova too. but it is compensated with the lvl60+ having higher chance to break
09:34.23mitch0and in any case, it won't make any significant impact on my playstyle
09:34.34mitch0just as the "nerf" didn't have any effect either
09:34.42Fisker-btw consortium got nothing new only the quest evl
09:34.47Fisker-so you got pwned still
09:34.48abbat-wAfter nerf nova i see 2 times what nova didn't break after 3k frostbolt crit. And i have 2 times 2 crit with frostbolts
09:34.50mitch0FB+IL always workd, and it'll work from now on as well
09:35.01abbat-wBut 2 times it's about 0.00001 chance ;)
09:35.09evlFisker-: aha, and chances that I will need exalted at some point are what? 90%?
09:35.19evlFisker-: I got my offhand though, it's still very nice for PVE
09:36.31yacoobhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/79.html makes me laugh so hard....
09:38.59mitch0You can now interact with wanted posters while mounted. <-- woohoo! :)
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09:41.25ckknightmitch0: fun
09:41.38ZealotOnAStickyacoob, which one was 79?
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09:42.07yacoobZealotOnAStick, "I hate you", two draeneis.
09:42.12ZealotOnAStickAhh.
09:42.18ZealotOnAStickYeah.  I liked 84 too.
09:42.31ZealotOnAStick70 also amused me.
09:43.23Fisker-mitch0 along with getting pwned by mobs that fly
09:43.35Fisker-and dismounting each time you press a spell
09:43.44trhFisker-: you can disable that dismounting
09:43.51trhFisker-: at least it says so in the patchnotes
09:44.11Fisker-didn't bother checking but it shouldn't apply for flying mounts at all
09:44.18mitch0Fisker-: if it actually starts casting on the first keypress, I'd buy into it :) if not, I'll just disable it
09:44.23Fisker-you also lag around and swim instead
09:44.55knarf^_^Fisker- it should apply for flying mounts if you where in walkingmode ;)
09:45.06knarf^_^well on the ground ^^
09:45.07knarf^_^:P
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09:46.20trhthey should also make it possible to use flying mounts in azeroth.. at least in ground mode =)
09:46.32trhi hate wasting 1 inventory slot
09:46.57Fisker-you also have to be able to use the spell you can make on mount
09:47.01CIA-1103sylvanaar * r32529 10Prat/modules/ChannelNames.lua:
09:47.01CIA-11Prat: Added code to make sure to clear the typepostfix if there is no player
09:47.01CIA-11name or typeprefix. covers the case where worlddefense would have " : BLAH BLAH"
09:47.01CIA-11instead of just "BLAH BLAH" when the channelname replacement was blank
09:47.01Fisker-i.e. it has to be instant
09:47.03Ominouscan you imagine how rediculas it would be having flying ounts able to use in AV
09:47.22mitch0it would be ridiculous, too :)
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09:47.35trhOminous: ya, but in riding mode they'd be ok
09:47.57trhOminous: can't be a big change to have them not be able to fly in azeroth and bg's
09:49.12Fisker-i'm a fucking n00b
09:49.24Fisker-akama probably gives the BT attunement
09:49.30Fisker-was looking around shattrath for it :o
09:50.17knarf^_^trh guess it is making it "roar" like a normal mount while in azeroth :) agreed, should not be hard :)
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09:51.02yacoobhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/56.html should be a motto of this # :D
09:51.08Aenslaedin celebration of the new and improved lifebloom, is there a mod which can track the duration of HoTs and display the duration remaining in a raid frame or similar set up?
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09:52.01ravagernlomg pitbull crashed :o
09:52.11ravagernlseems it cant find dogtag 1.0
09:52.20ravagernlweird, cause I have it installed
09:52.41mitch0hm. equipcompare is deprecated
09:53.02Ominousthere was a syntax error in dogtag last time i logged in
09:53.24mitch0When consuming reagents or using items on the action bar, smaller stacks will be used before larger stacks. <-- oh the joy!
09:53.31[Ammo]zomg
09:53.33ckknightOminous: tell the error
09:54.01Ominous["message"] = "DogTag-1.0\\DogTag-1.0.lua:278: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 211) near '='\n\n  ---",
09:54.10Ominoussorry that is from wtf
09:54.17Ominousso it has the lua excapes
09:54.36CIA-1103trh * r32530 10FuBar_VanasKoSFu/VanasKoSFu.lua: FuBar_VanasKoSFu: removed unnecessary debug output
09:54.57mitch0automatic debuff timers.. this patch is real good
09:55.00yacoobhm
09:55.20yacoobnot playing makes me miss some stuff. Is http://www.darklegacycomics.com/85.html based on true bug?
09:55.25abbat-wwhat is it, "automatic debuff timers"?
09:55.44mitch0Your current target will now display all of the duration based spells that you have cast on them with cooldown rings so you will know how much longer they will last. Very useful for warlock damage over time spells and druid healing over time spells as well as many others.
09:56.11abbat-wheh
09:56.22mitch0[Ammo]: ^^^ does that one need any additional work in PitBull/Auras?
09:56.33[Ammo]mitch0: yeah
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09:56.35[Ammo]but easily added
09:56.40mitch0cool
09:56.41[Ammo]like, REAL easy
09:56.49abbat-wIf i hit target with frostbolt (for example) i should see slow debuff on my target with timer?
09:57.03mitch0I presume so, yeah
09:57.08CIA-1103ckknight * r32531 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
09:57.08CIA-11Cartographer_Notes - Added support for WoW 2.1's rotateMinimap
09:57.08CIA-11Cartographer_Waypoints - Added support for WoW 2.1's rotateMinimap
09:57.11abbat-wHeh, this is real nice
09:57.13mitch0I'll get rid of NECB
09:57.24abbat-wI can remove chronometer then
09:57.26ckknightwho shall declare me anything asides a pimp?
09:57.28Silviu-ckknight why u add support to all addons for 2.1 ?
09:57.38abbat-wAnd also Ammo should add buff/debuff timers to PitBull ;))
09:57.39[Ammo]ckknight: you suck
09:57.40ckknightSilviu-: the pimpness.
09:57.42Silviu-It`s not even on testservers
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09:57.46Silviu-Or? ;)
09:57.48ckknightSilviu-: yes it is.
09:57.51ckknightI'm running it now
09:57.56Silviu-Oh ok did not know ^^
09:58.13ckknight[Ammo]: don't make me strike you down!
09:58.18mitch0minimap can be rotated now?
09:58.19[Ammo]BRING IT!
09:58.23ckknightyes, mitch0
09:58.25*** mode/#wowace [+v [Ammo]] by ckknight
09:58.28*** mode/#wowace [-v [Ammo]] by ckknight
09:58.31ckknighthaha!
09:58.33[Ammo]haha
09:58.36[Ammo]I never had a v
09:58.37ckknightI took away your precious voice!
09:58.41[Ammo]oh noes!
09:58.44mitch0I really wanted that feature when I started playing. now I'm not sure I could get used to it :)
09:58.45abbat-wckknight, blizzard add debuff timers ;)
09:58.51ckknightNO U
09:58.52knarf^_^how come, he is still speaking then ckknight? :>
09:59.02ckknightknarf^_^: cause #wowace isn't +m
09:59.11knarf^_^I know ^^
09:59.46ckknightabbat-w: I can't hack PitBull till Slouken fixes a bug, which he said he'd do tomorrow
10:00.11sbuhmm rotate minimap
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10:00.14sbuwtf?
10:00.20sbuwhy would you need that?
10:00.23knarf^_^important feature!
10:00.51ckknightsbu: in case you want it *shrug*
10:01.15knarf^_^oh well, time to go
10:01.16dottedi want rotating minimap
10:01.27Ominouscan a frame inheret two types of securestateheaders?
10:02.47ckknightit'll likely conflict.
10:02.51ckknightdotted: get the PTR
10:03.27sbuno ptr in eu :/
10:03.43dottedit was pointed at sbu
10:05.04Silviu-sbu there is
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10:05.04Silviu-;)
10:05.11sbuoh?
10:05.19sbuurl?
10:05.38Silviu-http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/ptr-downloader-enGB.html
10:06.25abbat-wanyone have torrent link or direct link to ptr client?
10:06.32sbuerr well - client isnt the problem - char copy is :o
10:06.41sbuand i need enUS anyways ;o
10:07.38mitch0Using "Tome of Conjure Water IX" on another Mage will no longer teach that Mage "Conjure Water" (Rank 9). <-- HAHA
10:07.42Silviu-Hmm at me works char copy
10:08.10sbuheh? url? :/
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10:10.33Silviu-57 mins remaining
10:10.38Silviu-Hmm time for an movie
10:10.39Silviu-:)
10:10.45CIA-1103shiftos * r32532 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_BagFu: esES updated
10:10.49trhSilviu-: only 21.. 14mbit dsl ftw ;)
10:10.58Silviu-:/
10:11.02trh12minutes =)
10:11.09Silviu-Hate u
10:11.35Silviu-Only 1mbit line
10:11.36Silviu-:)
10:11.48trhSilviu-: ouch.. thats not much :(
10:11.53trhSilviu-: but better then nothing
10:11.58Silviu-Yep :)
10:12.44Stephmwmeh, mbits past 1 don't matter for gaming... latency does :)
10:12.51nuoHepanyone knows if they changed haste pots somehow?
10:13.09trhStephmw: 10-20ms usually =)
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10:13.15Silviu-At me is quite ok with my server
10:13.21Silviu-around 100 120 latency
10:13.24trhStephmw: except when leeching with 400kb/s while gaming :)
10:13.41StephmwI hover between 30-70ms
10:13.49StephmwADSL in the UK is shit
10:13.55Silviu-In night me too in day nop :)
10:14.10trhthe 10-20ms apply to fast servers
10:14.19trhwithin the game its usually 50ms up to 100
10:14.23trhdepending on time
10:14.35Silviu-High populated server ?
10:14.38Stephmwhow about in raids?
10:14.45trhSilviu-: ya... eu-aegwynn
10:14.54Loki|muhsomeone with engineering 375 and ptr char here? I'm searching for the materials needed for the epic gun
10:15.14sbunope, 368 :/
10:15.19sbuerr 358
10:16.02ravagernlbah im gonna reinstall all addons
10:16.10ravagernlpitbull still buging me out
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10:16.51sbu<3 frost grenades
10:17.37CIA-1103darkimakuni * r32533 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
10:17.37CIA-11DogTag-1.0
10:17.37CIA-11- Bugfix
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10:24.43ravagernlits still bugging
10:24.46ravagernl[2007/04/13 12:23:44-623-x1]: DogTag-1.0\DogTag-1.0.lua:278: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 211) near '='
10:25.13ravagernlanyone els having this?
10:30.20mitch0just noticed Carto_Quicknotes. nice
10:31.57mitch0I can't believe thise whiners....
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10:32.06sbupallys? <b></b>
10:32.06mitch0<PROTECTED>
10:32.11sbuah ;o
10:32.28mitch0I'd say it's one of the best patches for a mage, yet they whine
10:32.37trhya.. all pallys are whining because of the 50% mana for crit heals
10:32.43sbuyep
10:33.01Fisker-understandably so :o
10:33.19mitch0the only "bad" thing about this patch is the ice block nerf, but the rest is a lot of coolness
10:33.33sbuuhm - is this really a problem? :o
10:33.34Stephmwmitch0: link for that thread?
10:33.35sbu30s?
10:33.48mitch0http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94920451&sid=1
10:34.27trhuh.. i got a idea.. let all mages convert to hunters... then they got a reason to complain :P
10:34.41Stephmwand the 2.1 patchnotes? all I can find is 2.0.12
10:34.56mitch0http://usaklig.net/patchnotes.html
10:35.02trhStephmw: http://ace.pastey.net/12052
10:35.03mitch0it's loooong
10:35.12Stephmwcheers
10:35.22mitch0this is one big mofo patch that's coming
10:35.27sbuPriest - Each time your Shadow Word: Pain deals damage, it has a 10% chance to grant you 200 spell damage for 5 seconds and each time your Renew heals, it has a 10% chance to grant you 200 healing for 5 seconds.
10:35.29sbuWHOH
10:35.33sbuthats nice ;)
10:35.55Stephmwno links on official servers?
10:36.22sbubluepost in blizz forums is official enough for me ;o
10:36.40Stephmw;)
10:36.50ckknightwhat's QFT mean?
10:37.19mitch0quoted for truth. in other words: I'm a retard and don't have my own opinion
10:37.48ckknightokay
10:37.50Fisker-QFT mitch0
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10:38.43Fisker-WTF
10:38.50Fisker-they fucking nerfed spiritual attunement to
10:38.53Fisker-too*
10:39.12ckknightyep
10:39.30Elkanoare the 2.1.0PTR patch notes online anywhere? Blizzard's page still gives me 2.0.12
10:39.49sbuhehe
10:39.58sbuElkano: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94920451&sid=1
10:40.02sbuerr
10:40.08sbuhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94203802
10:40.23Elkanothx :)
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10:41.11abbat_wmitch0, why you think "<mitch0> I'd say it's one of the best patches for a mage, yet they whine"?
10:41.50abbat_ware this patch real best patch for a meg?
10:41.51abbat_wmage
10:41.51evlANyone got an accurate DPS meter?
10:43.08DiaoUgh
10:43.25DiaoHow do people who make wow videos know when to fraps
10:43.29Diaoor do they just fraps nonstop for a while
10:47.15trhDiao: frap nonstop, cut the worthless parts later
10:50.01trh"Primal Nethers" may now be purchased from G'eras for "Badges of Justice".
10:50.04trhthat's a nice change
10:50.44Kinkx12 badges tho for 1 Primal Nether
10:50.51evlYeah, if there was anything to buy badges with
10:51.00evlGot 40 in bank gathering dust
10:51.08trhKinkx: uh.. a bit too expensive
10:51.09evland you can't use Nethers in Jewelcrafting
10:51.31trhoh.. nice.. i get a "you used up your prepaid game time" when trying to log onto the ptr...
10:51.37trheven though my account runs on CC
10:51.46evla friend does that too
10:51.50evl*has that error
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10:54.54ravagernlomg shadowstep is now 15seconds
10:55.14evlomg shadowstep is still useless
10:55.51evlshadowstep -> target lagged? yes -> start running, no -> you lagged? yes -> start running, no-> perform opener
10:55.53ravagernlmages get owned now
10:56.28Punkie`evl: nah you got it wrong
10:57.00Punkie`shadowstep -> target afk? yes -> perform opener
10:57.13clad|sleepmy ptr downloader is stuck and won't finish =/
10:57.38evlPunkie`: lol yeah
10:57.51evlPunkie`: fuck, have to craft my Cobrascale Gloves today, have you seen the look on those things? :(
10:58.52[dRaCo]he, at least I'm not the only one with ugly gloves then
11:00.55Punkie`evl: yes, yes i have
11:01.11evlPunkie`: EW, what enchant on them?
11:01.22evlPunkie`: I'm having serious problems finding large brill for agi
11:01.27Punkie`I don't have them, I've just seen them :P
11:01.46Punkie`I always go for AP, then when I get enough LBS just enchant over them
11:01.57Punkie`LBS are like 15-20g on my server, :/
11:02.19Punkie`but I did manage to get 4 for 20g when i think some guy meant to split his stack, muhaha
11:02.57clad|sleepi'm running out of greens to disenchant =/
11:03.08clad|sleepand instance running, i've had horrible dice luck =(
11:03.54Punkie`yeah, i know the feeling
11:03.55[Ammo]I have like 20 of the things in my bank
11:04.20Punkie`Hey ammo, If I don't annoy you for like, the rest of the day can I have 5?
11:04.31[Ammo]5000g kthxbye
11:04.35Punkie`:(
11:04.41clad|sleepi wish i could stay hom efrom work today
11:04.44[Ammo]I need my epix mount :)
11:04.50Punkie`I need your shards
11:04.53clad|sleepi'm gonna do some exploring for epic flight form
11:04.53[Ammo]I might even settle for 2500g
11:04.55[Ammo]how's that?
11:04.56Punkie`5g EACH OK YES?
11:05.27Punkie`CoD me the stack of 20 for 100g, dealorama
11:05.30evlWhat would be the best way to get some LBS? Do Strat Baron or Scholo?
11:05.36Punkie`Yeah
11:05.44evlwhich one? :P
11:05.49evlStrat has more mini bosses
11:05.52evlerr, scholo
11:05.57Punkie`yeah, scholo
11:06.12Punkie`you could probably do them solo (at least some)
11:06.23Punkie`where baron, i dunno
11:06.25[Ammo]roll a pala, solo it
11:06.38Punkie`Ammo, 100g kthxbye
11:06.56Punkie`evl: Have you checked out lootzor.com, pretty neat
11:07.19evlPunkie`: www.shadowpanther.net ftw
11:07.26Punkie`yeah I know
11:07.29evlPunkie`: 1. open DPS spreadsheet, 2. Find top, 3. Get it
11:07.36Punkie`I know!
11:07.46Punkie`But this is cool too
11:07.58evlcause? it does the same thing as Shadowpanther except I have to do it manually`? :P
11:08.20Punkie`it gives you the feeling of awesomeness
11:08.38evl:D
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11:08.39Punkie`Btw is it just me, or do Edgewalker Longboots liek, never drop?
11:08.49evldropped for me first time :P
11:08.54evlI'm still considering gems
11:09.00Punkie`urgh, the dagger dropped for me first time
11:09.01evlThink I'll just muse Cloze's profile and copy :P
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11:09.19Punkie`Meh
11:09.21evl4 agi and 4 hit seem to give the most bang for the buck
11:09.27Punkie`yep
11:09.34Punkie`but 8 agi is quite nice for muti builds
11:09.43evlwhy? :P
11:09.48evlhit owns the wortld
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11:09.58Punkie`you get more crit out of it than a +16 ap
11:10.12evlI never use +16 agp
11:10.27Punkie`it depends on the gem bonus
11:10.29evlI feel +4 agi +4 hit is the perfect balance
11:11.38Punkie`evl: http://www.thottbot.org/i30565 sickens me.
11:11.50evlIt's in the bank :(
11:12.21evlPunkie`: current gear, feel free to punch me for it: http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightning%27s+Blade&n=Blend
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11:14.12Punkie`you need the ring which has a powerlevel of over nine thousand
11:14.28evlThe 1-Ring?
11:14.43Punkie`Ring of a Thousand Marks!
11:16.25evlI don't have it :(
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11:17.11Punkie`I do !
11:17.18Stephmwinteresting change.. "Player pets can no longer attack PvP players while not being flagged for PvP."
11:17.23evlBut anythjing you saw I should swap out?
11:17.35Punkie`I hate my cloak though, farstrider war cloak, urgh
11:17.43Punkie`wildercloak even (or something)
11:17.52evlVengeance Wrap mats are sort of HORRIBLE
11:17.55evlbut worth it :)
11:19.31evlPunkie`: 15 primal air <3
11:19.35Punkie`:(
11:19.46Punkie`I have so much primal water it makes me cry
11:19.49Punkie`wanna trade?
11:20.31evltransmute it?
11:21.29Punkie`I feel dumb
11:21.34Punkie`Yeah, I will be doing that
11:22.13Wiebbelets hope they wont nerf those new engineering goggles
11:22.20sbuack
11:22.24sbudmg cloth is uber
11:22.28sbuwant to see heal cloth :)
11:22.35Wiebbenot as good as spellstrike ;p
11:22.40Wiebbethe plate healing one is sick
11:22.40Wiebbe:>
11:23.15sbuhmm
11:23.19sbui think its better than spellstrike
11:23.48sbumore dmg + meta socket
11:24.01Wiebbehmm
11:24.02Wiebbetrue
11:24.03abbat_wt5?
11:24.06abbat_wno, not better
11:24.07Wiebbeno engineering goggles
11:24.09abbat_wah
11:24.16abbat_wspellstrike has set proc
11:24.23abbat_wit's better then metasocket
11:24.32sbuand ofc builtin binoculars :p
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11:25.04Wiebbehaha
11:25.07sbubut since im no tailor ;o
11:25.11Wiebbelets hope i dont have to farm like mad now
11:25.12Wiebbe:P
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11:25.15Wiebbeto get my tanking goggles -_-
11:25.18clad|sleepDamnit, I can't patch to the PTR
11:25.20clad|sleepwhich means I can't go exploring the epic flight form
11:25.32Wiebbeif i get that +18 sta meta gem, i have 78 stamina on 1 item!
11:25.34Wiebbethats sick :>
11:25.44Tornhoofi just can't log in ;)
11:26.51Punkie`Is there a link to all of the craftable goggles yet?
11:26.52ElkanoWTF? Your current target will now display all of the duration based spells that you have cast on them with cooldown rings so you will know how much longer they will last. Very useful for warlock damage over time spells and druid healing over time spells as well as many others.
11:27.32_neuron_Elkano, is that in the official changelog or the imaginary one?
11:27.43Elkano_neuron_: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94203802
11:27.49Phatrikwtb PTR mirror :(
11:27.59sylvanaarthe changelog is tldnr
11:28.07Wiebbeoffical _neuron_
11:28.23_neuron_yeah I know it's official guys, I just really liked one of the imaginary ones that were posted a while ago too :P
11:28.26Wiebbeits insanely long
11:28.33Wiebbealmost longer then the TBC one :P
11:28.36clad|sleepuhh
11:28.45clad|sleepwhere's the API support for that
11:28.46clad|sleepheh
11:28.54Tornhoofown notes
11:29.21Elkanosylvanaar, but it's worth the time ^^
11:29.23Tornhoofwtf are cooldown rings?
11:29.33clad|sleepno idea
11:29.37Wiebbesame here :P
11:29.39clad|sleepextract the UI and open targetFrame.lua
11:29.48Tornhoofgood idea
11:30.12Punkie`http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/skyguard_rewards.png -> screws fishing over :(
11:30.12clad|sleep# You can now unspecialize in tailoring and leatherworking, and then select a new specialization. This is a repeatable choice, but costs gold each time.
11:30.14clad|sleepWOO HOO
11:30.24clad|sleepbah i need to go to work
11:30.26clad|sleepso much to read
11:30.37Punkie`engineering too :/
11:30.41Silviu-[14:31:51] <@F'clad|sleep> # You can now unspecialize in tailoring and leatherworking, and then select a new specialization. This is a repeatable choice, but costs gold each time.
11:30.46Silviu-Where u saw that ?
11:30.50Wiebbewtf is up with that
11:30.51Wiebbeseriously
11:30.57clad|workSilviu-: in the patch notes
11:30.58sylvanaarits in there
11:30.58Tornhoofa ridable nether mount?
11:30.58Wiebbewhy cant engineers do that? -_-
11:31.04Silviu-Omg ^^ yay :D
11:31.08Tornhoofloooool
11:31.30Kinkxthe "cooldown rings" are just regular actionbar cooldowns, think GCD on your targetframe buffs
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11:31.38Wiebbeso, now an tailorer can make spellcloth
11:31.42Wiebberespec, make shadowcloth
11:31.46Wiebberespec make primal mooncloth
11:31.49Silviu-^^
11:31.53clad|workwell it costs money
11:31.55clad|workbut yeah
11:31.56Silviu-But loose gold
11:31.57Silviu-;)
11:31.57Wiebbei think the best part is that they dont meention the engineering fix with the reagents
11:32.00WiebbeShadoweave cloth
11:32.09Wiebbespellstrike cloth
11:32.13Wiebbestuff like that
11:32.39sylvanaari have no idea what you mean
11:33.01Wiebbehaha
11:33.06Wiebbethe epic recipes from engineering
11:33.13Wiebberequire reagents called: shadoweave cloth
11:33.17Wiebbeand spellstrike cloth
11:33.19Wiebbewhich dont exist..
11:33.23Wiebbebecause they were renamed
11:33.36Wiebbeto spellcloth
11:33.38Wiebbeand shadow cloth
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11:34.47Wiebbebut according to GM's
11:35.05Wiebbe"those items are in game, please contact fellow gamers to see how to obtain them!"
11:35.29Wiebbeso basicly those items cannot be made
11:35.44Silviu-Lol, world server is down on test eu pvp
11:35.50Wiebbejewelcrafting had the same, with cut citrine
11:35.55Wiebbeand that one is fixed :/
11:38.19CIA-1103usz * r32534 10TooltipExchange/ (. Modules/Loot.lua Modules/UI.lua TooltipExchange.toc):
11:38.19CIA-11TooltipExchange
11:38.20CIA-11- Small bug fixes and library update
11:39.18Punkie`Anyone on the testrealm yet?
11:39.25Silviu-Pvp is down
11:39.27Silviu-Pve is up
11:40.12Punkie`the memory profiling shizzle in yet?
11:40.19Silviu-Yay i`m in :)
11:41.04Silviu-OMG
11:41.16Silviu-My bird is bugged o.O
11:41.28Silviu-She hits wings 10times /s lol
11:41.45Tornhoofhummingbird?
11:42.29Silviu-Swift blue gryphoon
11:42.36Silviu-Oh now the icon is epic
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11:44.40KirkburnPatch notes are on the wiki, might be a bit easier to navigate - http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.1.0_%28Release_Notes%29
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11:47.38sbuohnoes
11:47.49sbuepic engineering requires cloth? :/
11:47.53sbumeh...
11:48.03Tornhoofanyone knows what the chance for the glancing strikes is now?
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11:52.38Punkie`Tornhoof: I think it's the same chance, just the damage reduction has been changed
11:53.10ElkanoTornhoof: http://www.wowwiki.com/Glancing_blow ?
11:53.24Punkie`It's changed in 2.1 Elkano
11:53.29Punkie`and zomglol Screenshots captured using the Print Screen key are now saved in JPG format.
11:53.30ElkanoI knoe
11:53.54Punkie`Oh, I guess I was wrong, this is the patch note for it: Glancing Blows have significantly less of a chance to occur during a players melee attacks when targets are near the players level.
11:54.45Wiebbesbu, what do you mean? you mean spellclot/shadowcloth?
11:55.02sbuyep
11:55.10Wiebbeif it isnt bugged ;p
11:55.13Wiebbeyou have engineering?
11:55.17sbuye
11:55.18sbup
11:55.39Wiebbeare you on the PRT?
11:55.43sbunot yet :o
11:55.46Wiebbebah
11:55.54Wiebbei want to know if we still need this crap:
11:55.54sbueng. 358
11:55.54Wiebbecould you check if we still need th
11:55.59Wiebbeba..
11:56.02Wiebbehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=23854
11:56.06mitch0can someone by any chance provid a link to the new shadoweave robe graphics?
11:56.22Wiebbeand http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23855
11:56.23Wiebbe:/
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11:57.19kovihttp://elitistjerks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=195&d=1176446496
11:57.48mitch0doesn't let me view it without login...
11:58.22mitch0kovi: could you upload it to imageshack or some other less stringent site? pretty please :)
11:58.50kovisec ;>
11:59.12Tornhoof<PROTECTED>
11:59.31kovihttp://666kb.com/i/anglo5ss97fefjgil.png
11:59.49kovii wonder why people still use imageshack
11:59.51kovisoooo sloooow
11:59.52evltinypic.com
11:59.52kovi:/
11:59.52evlftw
11:59.52Tornhoofelkano, they said they reduced the glancing blow chance so i'd guess it's down from 30% to 29.9% ;)
11:59.54mitch0thanks
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12:00.19mitch0looks okeyish
12:01.30Punkie`I'm actually looking forward to this patch tbh.
12:01.46KirkburnIt's a huuuge patch
12:01.55Punkie`as in, GIVE IT NOW
12:02.08Punkie`Longpatch is loooonnggggggg
12:02.12KirkburnIt's the kind of patch other companies would make you pay for :P
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12:02.36Punkie`hmm, perhaps :P
12:02.37Tornhoofcoz it's 3month too late
12:02.42Tornhoofand was supposed to come with bc
12:03.23Punkie`nah
12:03.23KirkburnBtw "Screenshots captured using the Print Screen key are now saved in JPG format."
12:03.31Punkie`I already said that
12:03.32Punkie`OMG OLD.
12:03.35sbulol
12:03.38sbufinally :p
12:04.28KirkburnBig changes to Mend Pet
12:04.58Silviu-ckknight u around ? ;)
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12:07.07mitch0yeah, I guess priests will be more likely to refuse to heal pets from now on :)
12:07.47mitch0they should've save in .png though... lossles compression ftw
12:08.20Tornhoofopenexr
12:08.24Tornhooffull color depth ftw
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12:16.21KinkxBah.. that +30 stamina food you can buy from the Skyguard at friendly only gives +20 when you eat it
12:20.58mitch0teh bastards!
12:22.24kenlyricman, I forget how fast zoning is with no mods :)
12:22.53kenlyricalso, how damn ugly the ui is...
12:23.04KirkburnI just printed off the patch notes at miniscule scale - still came to 11 pages
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12:26.20kenlyricthe patch notes can be used for demonic summoning.
12:26.30kenlyricsince it's drenched in the blood of priests.
12:26.33mitch0kenlyric: :)
12:27.02kenlyrichmmm.. why did I have to perform a rename? I'm the only kenlyric, according to the armory.
12:27.13mitch0actually, my smiley was about the uggliness of the default ui. I know nothing about priests' blood
12:27.25Tornhoofnormal procedure
12:27.31kenlyricah, ok.
12:27.33Tornhoofyou can probably use kenlyric anyway
12:27.52kenlyriclast ptr I was on was... 1.10? 1.11 maybe. And I had a premade.
12:29.38Bibi`anyone know where i could host pictures for a stupidly high traffic ?
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12:29.49Bibi`(also known as "save my server !")
12:32.47kenlyricso... anyone on the ptr checked out a mighty restoration flask? I need to prepare my razorblades, and the toon I transferred a few weeks ago doesn't have any on her.
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12:33.11Tornhoof25mp5
12:33.42kenlyricand I can buy them from the vendor now for 12s?
12:33.49mitch0<PROTECTED>
12:33.59mitch0forum stupidity knows no limits
12:34.26kenlyricI'm sure someone out there has already started making a list of which are defensive and which are offensive. To the internets!
12:35.44chutwigINTERNET knows all
12:35.55ravagernlAbilities and items that are triggered when you kill a target are also now triggered when your pet kills a target. :o woot, that means I get even more HK with my beastmastery :D
12:36.13chutwigand it means improved drain soul will be slightly more worthwhile now
12:36.14ravagernlo wait, i read too fast
12:36.15ravagernlbah
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12:37.35kenlyricand it means spirit tap... oh, will suck even more.
12:42.05kenlyricor, I could be un-dumb at look at the elixirs I have on me... :)
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12:51.49Punkie`Omg that last episode of Lost (16) was awesome.
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12:54.10krkalost hasn't been awesome since middle of season 1, when i still hadn't realized they would never actually explain anything
12:54.28kenlyricthey suffer from twin peaks syndrome.
12:54.35kenlyricaka. They had no real plan.
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12:55.01Punkie`duh, but i still watch it
12:55.29[Ammo]euhm, the author already wrote the storyline for 7 seasons
12:55.30krkai know! we'll show this guys father walking around, even though it's dead, and have a boy summon polar bears, and have a mysterious black smoke going around killing people!
12:56.34kenlyricoh, he has? maybe he's just no good at it, then.
12:56.44[Ammo]I dunno
12:56.50[Ammo]they're explaining more and more stuff
12:57.15[Ammo]and scenes from seasons 1 and 2 get shown in their 'uncut' form
12:57.20[Ammo]so I wouldn't say he didn't think ahead
12:57.21krkano spoilers, i am actually like 2-3 episodes behind
12:58.09krkai seriously doubt 7 seasons were written before season 1 launched
12:58.17krkathey had no idea at that time how well it would work
12:58.24[Ammo]I don't think he wrote the exact season etc
12:58.30[Ammo]but he did write the whole storyline
12:58.48[Ammo]which is beginning to show in season 3 pretty well
12:58.53Punkie`yep
12:59.00Punkie`also giev 2 weeks for Heroes
12:59.22Gagorian-  Your current target will now display all of the duration based spells
12:59.22Gagorian<PROTECTED>
12:59.22Gagorian<PROTECTED>
12:59.22Gagorian<PROTECTED>
12:59.36Punkie`OMG RLY
12:59.51GagorianWould that make dot timer addons pretty simple?
12:59.51kenlyricstill not a countdown number, but getting close.
13:00.02GagorianProvided there's API :v
13:00.11Ominouspurdy
13:00.34kenlyricwell, let's hope there's some sort of logic so you can change targets and it'll still be accurate when you come back to the target.
13:00.48chutwigthat would be nice
13:00.51kenlyricthat alone would simplify the timer addons, I'd think
13:00.51chutwigunique unit IDs
13:00.56chutwigwhoa wishful thinking
13:00.59chutwigtoo good to be true danger danger
13:01.17chutwigabandon all hope ye who program her
13:01.17kenlyricsorry, I'm trying to find hope in my despair.
13:02.21chutwigwtb motes of fire from adamantite
13:04.09chutwigi mean, i love primal earth and all, but 5 minutes of mining and i have 5 primals
13:04.30Ominouswhich is more efficient _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, var = getinfofn() or select(10, getinfofun())
13:05.08kenlyricsell those five primals and you'll have enough for a mote of fire.
13:06.52krkaOminous: definitely the first
13:07.02kenlyricthis fel iron I just picked had a fire, earth, and a gem on it.
13:07.14krkapersonally i would do it with locals though
13:07.20krkabut perhaps you already wrote local _;
13:08.32krkawith the first, it's just a plain function call, with the second it's two vararg function calls with all that it implies
13:08.54Ominousofc local :)
13:10.11Nickenyfiken"Profession recipes that had 24 hour or longer cooldowns, have had their cooldowns reduced by 1 hour." Umh ok one hour, great.
13:10.33chutwigwhat?  that's good
13:10.36kenlyricyeah, that made no sense.
13:10.43chutwigit's so you can do it at the same time each day
13:10.45kenlyricso instead of four days, it's three days and 23 hours?
13:10.53Nickenyfikena 4 day CD reduces by on hour? :-P
13:10.56Ominouslol
13:11.11Nickenyfikentypo?
13:11.14krkamakes sense, with chutwigs logic
13:11.15Nickenyfikenhour = day?
13:11.28chutwigyou people pick the weirdest things to bitch about
13:11.29Nickenyfikenah ok
13:11.32kenlyricso, reduce it by one minute if that's the logic.
13:11.48krkathey want you to be able to cast it the same time each day
13:12.00krkajust 1 minute wouldn't help, there's no margin there
13:12.08chutwighaving an hour gives you enough of a margin
13:12.16kenlyrichuh?
13:12.16krkayou'd have to do it at the exact time, or you'd start "drifting"
13:12.28krkaafter a few days, you'd have to get up late at night to cast it
13:12.43krkawould seriously disturb peoples sleep / work
13:12.45kenlyricah.
13:12.46chutwigi started my cloth transmutes at 11 in the morning
13:12.50[Ammo]krka: did you time both the _, _, _, etc and the select()
13:12.51kenlyricnow your alien logic makes sense.
13:12.52chutwigit's now drifted to 2:30 in the afternoon
13:12.55[Ammo]and check memory etc
13:12.57krka[Ammo]: nope
13:13.02[Ammo]try it...
13:13.08krkaok
13:13.13Nickenyfikenah i see :-)
13:13.15[Ammo]it might produce intersting results :)
13:13.26krkadid you time it yourself, and are just not keen on sharing the results?
13:13.32[Ammo]I did not
13:13.39[Ammo]but I know some others did and decided on select()
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13:13.44krkai see
13:15.06Fisker-*wrists*
13:15.07Gagorianumm apparently restarting the downloader at 100% deleted the entire PTR patch I just had downloaded. Great.
13:15.13Fisker-any news on the paladin situation?
13:15.26Tornhoofyour fucked fisker :D
13:15.29kenlyricI hear one ran out of mana, and the entire class exploded.
13:15.30GagorianAccording to AskJeeves.com paladins are still lame
13:15.35Ominouslol
13:15.45Ominousi hate alliance shamens
13:15.52Ominousthey are a pain in pvpv
13:15.52evlShamen
13:15.59krkaok i tested it for time
13:16.06krkai was right, according to my test
13:16.15kenlyricyou know, that one patch note was the only positive change priests got. Cause, we have an 11% better chance to be invited to a 25 man now.
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13:16.49Garnsdon't forget binding heal got buffed *cough*
13:17.20Gagorian"Circle of Healing" (Holy) effect increased!
13:17.45Garnsthe rest is bugfixing and SP nerfs though
13:17.53evll2get plate armor imhgo
13:17.56evland unlimited mana
13:17.59evlkk thx bai
13:18.04Ominousgod trac is slow
13:18.29sbuhmm
13:18.34sbuwhats 'daily' in quest log?
13:18.51kenlyricyes, they made binding heal usable. I guess that's not a bad thing.
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13:19.09kenlyricAnd, by nerfing pallies, they made us by comparison suck slightly less.
13:19.55evlwas there a pala nerf? :P
13:20.01trhkenlyric: the 23hour thing on cooldown makes sense, so you can transmute/craft at the exact same time every day
13:20.17trhkenlyric: instead of having the time moving slowly later and later
13:20.18Gagorianyeah, it's nice
13:20.38mitch0trh: is that in the new patch as well?
13:20.43mitch0missed that one somehow
13:20.55kenlyrictrh: yeah, chutwig already explained it to us :) Makes perfect sense
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13:21.01kenlyricWhile the flask still requires more materials than this elixir, it also allows 9 more mana to regenerate per 5 seconds, lasts twice as long, and persists through death. The flask is probably best used when facing encounters that are especially challenging to your party or raid.
13:21.03kenlyriczomg, 9!
13:21.05Phatrikwww.shatteredminds.net/skit/looking_forward_to_the_patch.jpg
13:21.07Phatrik¯\(o_º)/¯
13:21.32Ominouswould it be better to do local actionIDs = {id1 = true, id2 = true ...etc} if actionIDs[itemID] then or would it be better to do actionIDs = "id1 id2..." if actionIDs:find(itemID) then
13:21.55[Ammo]the first
13:22.11JJSheetsOminous, definitely the first
13:23.15mitch0hm. they didn't change the 4day cooldown stuff though. inconsistency!
13:23.45sylvanaaryeah the site is slo
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13:24.43Mikmalol, polymorph nerf
13:24.44krka[Ammo]: want to see my test? it may be flawed
13:24.48OminousJJSheets: cooldowns are abit buggy again
13:24.51krkai dont know the details of this function
13:24.59JJSheetsOminous, how so?
13:25.10Ominousif affected by GC it dosent show main one until another button on bar is pressed
13:25.22Fisker-funny shit Phatrik is that the ace guys are almost ahead of their time when patching to new versions :P
13:25.42JJSheetsOminous, tell me the spells you are using.  Frost Nova again?
13:25.45Ominousya
13:25.49JJSheetsk
13:26.01Ominousi think it also happens on the BE racials
13:26.04[Ammo]krka: well I'm not that fussed, I think the select() is still prettiest :)
13:26.07JJSheetsdamn bug just won't friggin die... :)
13:26.20NickenyfikenOh i wonder if the new Shaman class/raid color is sexy :-P
13:26.32krkasure
13:26.40krkabut select unfortunately scales badly
13:26.43mitch0JJSheets: what addon is this?
13:26.53JJSheetsmitch0, InfiniBar
13:26.57krkai'll test with many more return values
13:27.03krkasee what happens to the timings
13:28.37ravagernlckknight: [2007/04/13 15:27:55-624-x1]: PitBull-r32517\Health\Health.lua:273: attempt to index field 'healthBar' (a nil value) when I disbanded a group with a offline partymember
13:28.38mitch0hm. seems like the eu forums caved in. probly whine overload
13:28.51evlor rogues rejoicing :D
13:28.55JJSheetslol
13:28.57evlWhat's that sound? Rogue DPS INC!
13:29.06Fisker-FUCKING AWESOME
13:29.12krkaselect is slower, even for large number of arguments, but the difference is greater for small number of arguments
13:29.14evlIN MY PANTS
13:29.15Fisker-lot's of fallout stuff on it's way
13:29.18JJSheetshow were Hunters and Warlocks affected?
13:29.33evlFisker-: fallout as in the game series?
13:29.42Fisker-yeah
13:29.43krka[ammo] my test: http://pastey.net/12111
13:29.52mitch0ckknight: when we wiped in mechanar and ressed outside (that auto-res thing) pitbull still thought I'm dead (till the first heal I received).
13:29.53evlJJSheets: Hunter pets now have a 25% increased chance of wiping the raid due to pathing bugs
13:29.57Fisker-Bethesda(or whatever) bought the IP to Fallout from interplay
13:30.01JJSheetsrofl
13:30.03evlFisker-: omg, Fallout BOS was the best game ever.
13:30.08Fisker-and interplay is apparently trying to make a Fallout MMO
13:30.13evlomg
13:30.15evlfallout Mmo
13:30.17evl<3
13:30.23mitch0I liked the fallout cinematics
13:30.26MikmaYour current target will now display all of the duration based spells that you have cast on them with cooldown rings so you will know how much longer they will last. Very useful for warlock damage over time spells and druid healing over time spells as well as many others.
13:30.30ravagernlckknight: now my target frame is bugged: http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=04132007152954tk8.jpg
13:30.30Mikmais niiice!
13:30.52JJSheetsas long as you can sell your body continuously for cash in the fallout mmo like in fallout 2, It gets my stamp of approval.
13:31.29evlBOS was so damn good
13:31.35evlI think i played it through like 4 times
13:31.51Fisker-Any new info on the new darkmoon cards?
13:32.12JJSheetsalways cheated in each of the games myself.  nothing more enjoyable then roundhouse kicking half a person's body six feet away.
13:32.17krkai'd probably use select too, even though it's slower
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13:34.04kenlyricFisker-: They will be as awesome as the old ones, and as worthwhile to raiders as the old ones.
13:34.12Ominousframe:SetPoint("CENTER", Minimap, "CENTER") = frame:SetPoint("CENTER") if parent is minimap right?
13:34.32Fisker-Twisting Nether was good on rag!
13:34.33JoshBorkeOminous: yes
13:34.36evlDarkmoon cards were awesome?
13:34.42Fisker-i once got 40% durabillity on one ragnaros kill
13:34.45evlfor grinding boards in the forest southpark style?
13:35.00Fisker-40% durabillity loss of course
13:35.05JJSheetsboars you mean?  :)
13:35.12Fisker-no
13:35.14Fisker-they grinded boards
13:35.22Fisker-They were lumberjacks
13:35.23evlskate-boards?
13:35.25Fisker-didn't you get the memo?
13:35.31evlI got the memo, IN MY PANTS
13:35.48kenlyricevl. I never said anyting such thing.
13:35.49Fisker-Put in a suggestion to implement the /wrists command for paladins
13:35.57faux-siouxhe has a pneumatic tube system in there
13:35.57Fisker-not like they read that shit anyways
13:35.58kenlyricI said they will be *as awesome*
13:36.08evlUgh, it's almost like I'm willing to stay at work just to delay hacking of my PitBull layout a bit longer
13:36.42sbumeh
13:36.57sbuwhats daily in questlog :/
13:36.57kenlyricI had a darkmoon card. Wore it for two weeks in MC. It procced three times. Once on a heal that landed as the boss died. And twice on prayer of fort buffing.
13:37.16sylvanaarwell the addon memory usage is there yippee
13:38.19Fisker-My twisting nether procced 3 times in a row on rag
13:38.27Fisker-and i died with in 10 seconds of each proc
13:38.31Fisker-within*
13:38.38Fisker-40% durabillity loss = win
13:38.41Fisker-then i got a combat ress and died
13:39.41evlSo what's the chance that they will be better than heroic trinkets
13:39.43evlLet's say, slim and none
13:39.48kenlyricstop dying?
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13:41.22Fisker-I couldn't kenlyric
13:41.24Fisker-I wouldn't
13:42.25Fisker-I was compelled to stay, compelled to disobey
13:46.55CIA-1103damjau * r32535 10NextStep/ (. NextStep.lua NextStep.toc):
13:46.55CIA-11NextStep:now use Babble-Faction-2.2
13:46.55CIA-11update data
13:48.13kenlyricwhere is the etherium prison at?
13:49.40evlnobody knows yet
13:49.46evlI think it might be accessible from a portal
13:49.50evlwhich consortium opens for you
13:49.57evlIt says there's new rewards if you got rep
13:50.40kenlyricah, ok.. I was trying to think of places in outland where it oculd exist, flying mount only places.
13:50.44kenlyricbut I wasn't coming up with any.
13:51.04evlI've got exalted, gonna be fun to see what the new rewards are :D
13:51.05kenlyricI'm somewhere in honored with them, just from questing. Gladd i didn't grind them up  any more.
13:51.59sbuhm
13:52.07sbuarena healer mace w/ +350 heal
13:52.21kenlyricdoes it have any mana regen?
13:53.11CodayusHmm
13:53.11sbunope
13:53.15Mikma_neuron_: yo?
13:53.17sbu20 resilence
13:53.18CodayusSerious buffs to the Karazhan healing trinkets
13:53.20sbuno spirit
13:53.30sburibbon of sacrifice?
13:53.33sbuor something else?
13:53.37CodayusRibbon of Sacrifice and...
13:53.38_neuron_Mikma, semi
13:53.43_neuron_Mikma, playing atm though, sup?
13:53.44kenlyricooooooh share!
13:53.45CodayusPendant of the Violet Eye
13:53.52Mikma_neuron_: new LightHeaded
13:54.07_neuron_yeah I know, that's the one I've used for ages isn't it :P
13:54.09sbu+34 int?
13:54.10CodayusRight after I passed on both of them, and let the Ribbon get DEed.  :-/
13:54.19chutwigribbon of sacrifice was a pile of crap
13:54.23chutwigwhat did they change on it?
13:54.26Phatrikhttp://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4690/secoundrc6.jpg
13:54.27_neuron_still works right Mikma , or did he change the api? :P
13:54.28Mikma_neuron_: nope :D newest has an feature that is missing from nQuestLog :)
13:54.28Phatriky helo thar
13:54.30kenlyricstill, you take it in hopes it'll get buffed some day.
13:54.37Codayus(Ribbon had the effect of the Fecundity bonus increased by 50%, AND a passive equip of 11 mp5 added.)
13:54.39_neuron_what feature?
13:54.42Mikma_neuron_: clicking the coords will put a waypoint in TomTom
13:54.43chutwigahh
13:54.43kenlyricZOMG!
13:54.45chutwig11 mp5 is nice
13:54.47kenlyricwtb
13:54.54_neuron_I'll check it out later, afk now though ;)
13:55.02CodayusFecundity is still pretty weak now that it adds 30 healing instead of 20, but...11 mp5
13:55.17chutwigfecundity would be better if the duration were longer, like a minute or so
13:55.25kenlyricit's finally better than the green trinket i've been using since level 65.
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13:55.32CodayusAnd Pendant of the Violet Eye got the same sort of buff.  The stacking mp5 buff went from 14 to 21 mp5 (still bleh) but it now has a passive 34 int.
13:55.49Codayus34 int is...um...kinda a lot for a trinket slot...
13:55.49AmadeoI'm amazed Blizzard did sweeping class nerfs for 2.1
13:56.14CodayusAnd they buffed Romeo's Poison Vial (passive 31 hit rating added).
13:56.18kenlyricyeah, it makes it a nice trinket too... a buff of 50% to the mana regen is useful to.
13:56.28kenlyricI could see myself wearin both of those trinkets now.
13:57.11Codayus"Each spell cast within 20 seconds will grant a stacking bonus of 21 mp5 .  Expires after 20 seconds."  Umm...  *tries to work out what that averages out to...*
13:58.48kenlyricCodayus: it works ou to be a nice bit of mana regen. Use it at a point you're going to be HoTting anyway, or flashhealspam.
13:58.54CodayusStarts at 0 mp5, ends at oh...210 mp5, average of 105 mp5, over 20 seconds?  So...maybe...420 mana per activation.
13:59.15CodayusA little more if your chain spamming HoTs/flash heal.
13:59.57kenlyric34 does seem excessive though.
14:00.05kenlyricdoes it only proc on heals still?
14:00.22Codayus2 minute cooldown, so...kinda sorta equal to 17.5 mp5 passive?  Yeah, I'll buy that.
14:00.24kenlyricoh, spell.
14:00.32kenlyricso, lots more caster competition for that now.
14:00.33CodayusViolet Eye?  It was always all spells.
14:00.46CodayusBut with no int, and weak mp5, nobody wanted it.
14:00.49kenlyricI guess, but casters don't usually care that much for mana regen.
14:01.00kenlyricif it's 34 int, they'll be clawing at us for it.
14:01.06CodayusBut the mp5 is 50% better, and 34 freaking int.
14:01.33Codayushttp://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php?p=326152&postcount=6
14:01.45kenlyrictoo bad none of those have dropped yet.
14:02.05AmadeoCodayus: Is that a Linux website?
14:02.10pastamancerhmm, timeLeft on UnitBuff/UnitDebuff sounds like it won't be cacheable
14:02.12Codayus....touche!
14:02.16Amadeohahah
14:02.48AmadeoSo is PTR up on 2.1?
14:03.06CodayusYeah
14:03.11Sarozpastamancer, they return timeleft now?
14:03.20AmadeoNice
14:03.21CodayusNo transfers, but chars from previous testing phases are still there.
14:03.35AmadeoI'm gonna go check out how bloated my addons are!
14:03.56pastamancerSaroz: duration and timeleft were added according to the diff posted on the fourms
14:04.20Sarozomg
14:04.22Sarozwicked!
14:04.31pastamancerbuffs and debuffs
14:04.42Sarozon all units?
14:05.11CodayusRevenge does 414-506 base damage.
14:05.14pastamancernot sure, it's in the coding for the target frame
14:05.19Sarozhrrm
14:05.21CodayusWoah.  Go go gadget prot farming.
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14:07.28kenlyricmaybe it keeps a client-side record of targets?
14:07.38kenlyricnot sure how that could work if it's not on every unit...
14:08.22nuoHeppastamancer, it looks it like it returns on player casted buffs/debuffs according to comments there
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14:11.19pastamancernuoHep: well, at least I can cache duration and use that to determine if a call to UnitBuff is needed during a query
14:11.49AmadeoHow can I get PitBull to display the Buff and Debuff positions like this?  Ignore the sizing or the frames here, just how the buffs are under the frames and debuffs are on the right of them -- http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full5125.jpg
14:16.45mitch0I wonder if I have the guts to play maniac mansion @work ... :)
14:17.13mitch0just found a free download pc-recreation
14:17.33mitch0... temptation
14:18.02Andrn00b><
14:19.12Wiebbewell
14:19.17Wiebbethe fact that you are IRCing at work ;p
14:19.29mitch0well, that's not that obvious :)
14:19.31Wiebbealready makes me thing you are allowed to slack ;p
14:19.35Wiebbehaha, programming or irc
14:19.38mitch0black screen, wall of text
14:19.38Wiebbenot much diffrence ^^
14:19.54mitch0most managers think it's some sort of programming ;)
14:20.02Wiebbeits just that when i laugh because something it funny :>
14:20.07Wiebbethey tend to look up
14:20.07Wiebbe:(
14:20.43mitch0this game was so friggin' awesome
14:20.58mitch0along with day of the tentacle
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14:21.59AmadeoI'm not sure how to spec my Warrior anymore!
14:22.42CIA-1103mcc * r32537 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/zhTW.lua:
14:22.42CIA-11Cartographer_InstanceNotes:
14:22.42CIA-11modify the wring section in Chinese Traditional translations
14:22.42CIA-11InstanceNotes => Instance Notes
14:23.54kenlyricmaniac mansion? where!?!
14:24.01mitch0http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/abandonware/pc/adventure/games_m_o/maniac_mansion_deluxe.html
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14:32.01CIA-1103saroz * r32538 10sRaidFrames/ (localization.enUS.lua sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua):
14:32.01CIA-11sRaidFrames:
14:32.01CIA-11- Debuff highlights added
14:32.01CIA-11- Cleanse detection made more simple, if you haven't trained your cleanse abilities, you don't deserve to be in a raid anyway.
14:35.31mitch0lol
14:36.36Andrn00bgood night everyone
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14:41.44CIA-1103helium * r32539 10Niagara/Niagara.lua: Niagara: updated zhTW locale
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14:43.33Mikmahttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=4310
14:44.26AmadeoClamAV! My mind is at peace!
14:45.07AmadeoThat's a neat idea
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14:55.24sbuhm
14:55.31sbutrinket menu broken on ptr ;o
14:55.54Fisker-<-hardcore killar rawr
14:57.25deltronsbu: noooooooo :(
14:58.15Fisker-http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4606/wowscrnshot041307064528na7.jpg <-lol
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14:58.50deltronhah
14:58.54deltronis that new?
14:59.06deltronto deal with the damn campers? heh
14:59.09Amadeorofl
14:59.12Fisker-i guess
14:59.18Amadeoremember when this game used to be fun? :P
14:59.28Amadeonow it's like big brother!
14:59.32Fisker-WoW was never fun!
14:59.47Mikmaneither was your mom
14:59.55deltronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=roof <-- heh
15:00.07kenlyricAmadeo: now it's like MMO for dummies.
15:00.30deltronwow's never been super nerdy
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15:01.10kenlyricyes, but it gets progressively more baseline with each patch. Make everyone the same.
15:01.19kenlyricIt's the Nascar of MMOs
15:02.24CIA-1103mcc * r32541 10Babble-2.2/ (6 files in 6 dirs):
15:02.24CIA-11Babble-2.2:
15:02.24CIA-11Modify Chinese Traditional translation.
15:03.34JJSheetskenlyric, so we'll be hearing a lot more, "OOOOOOOO he's making ANOTHER left turn!!!!"
15:05.01kenlyricor, "he's smashing 2!"
15:05.48trhomg.. dewdrop throwing errors on ptr :(
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15:07.19rubik* Shamans are now a darker blue in the raid UI so they have a more distinct color.
15:07.44rubikdoes that mean they changed shammy raidclasscolor or whatever?
15:08.07[Ammo]yeah
15:08.32rubikcrazy.. didn't know they were hard to tell apart.. shrug
15:08.44[Ammo]mage shammy looked a bit too much alike
15:08.51rubikguess so
15:08.55Fisker-what is that about deltron?
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15:09.38kenlyrictrh, unless you're coding one, why would you turn mods on the first day of a ptr?
15:09.46kenlyricthe client itself is bugged to hell :)
15:10.08trhkenlyric: im coding one.. and i'm a bit masochistic ;)
15:10.20trh(hey, i use windows vista, doesnt that tell enough? ;)
15:10.50CIA-1103jjsheets * r32542 10InfiniBar/ (IB_Core.lua IB_Standard.lua):
15:10.50CIA-11InfiniBar - Fixed the last Cooldown bug (hopefully the last). Added support for
15:10.50CIA-11bar scale and text sub options, with the ability to override these values per
15:10.50CIA-11button. Layouts done in previous revisions will need reconfiguring.
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15:14.17kenlyricomg, apples has a mac commercial about cryptic error messages.
15:14.25kenlyricGod is going to strike them down for being LIARS
15:14.31deltronlol
15:14.31sedatedChipmunkthat's fatal error
15:14.35kenlyricbomb, anyone?
15:14.54sedatedChipmunkdon't worry, buddy, you'll be up making spreadsheets in no time!
15:15.47sedatedChipmunki did think that one was dumb; i chuckled at the other new one, though
15:16.04sedatedChipmunkthe flashback to when they were kids
15:16.53GagorianPTR is pretty damn laggy :l
15:21.38chutwiggrrrr
15:21.51chutwigpitbull keeps giving me more errors about not being able to index healthBar :(
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15:22.14Amadeohaha, my PitBull went nuts last night
15:22.17Silviu-chutwig and after that your bars are screwed right ?
15:22.18Silviu-:)
15:22.20[Ammo]update pitbull and the barfader
15:22.21[Ammo]shrug
15:22.21chutwigyes :(
15:22.29Silviu-I know the feeling :)
15:22.30[Ammo]I don't have the issue atm
15:22.33chutwigi updated pitbull two hours ago, haven't seen checkins since then
15:22.34Silviu-http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041307150602ct2.jpg
15:22.38[Ammo]well
15:22.41[Ammo]it's still alpha software
15:22.44Silviu-[2007/04/13 17:52:20-77-x1]: PitBull-r32517\Health\Health.lua:273: attempt to index field 'healthBar' (a nil value)
15:22.45Gagorianfrom the new targetframe XML: cooldown = getglobal("TargetFrameDebuff"..i.."Cooldown");
15:22.45chutwigthis is the world's longest /rl
15:22.46[Ammo]and will eat your babies probably
15:22.48Silviu-After this error
15:22.49Gagorianhas that existed before?
15:22.52Silviu-U get those things :)
15:23.05Silviu-Just reloadui
15:23.06Silviu-:)
15:23.16Silviu-And be happy until u get that error again :)
15:23.36[Ammo]weird
15:23.39[Ammo]I just played 2 hours
15:23.41deltronI had weird errors with pitbull last night
15:23.41[Ammo]without that error
15:23.47nuoHepGagorian, nope, they've added cooldowns to player casted debuffs on a target frame
15:23.57deltronI couldn't see my party, it was just stretched out buffs it seemed
15:24.01deltronbut it was my buffs
15:24.28Amadeohttp://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8004/pitbulloy8.jpg
15:24.31AmadeoThere's mine last night
15:24.40Amadeoone person in group
15:25.25Silviu-hehe
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15:26.26Silviu-[Ammo] don`t know how to make that error apear again .. hmm try enter a grp and exit .. and target some ppl
15:27.29[Ammo]probably some lingering frame reference
15:27.40[Ammo]the secureheaders create their frames and act weird at times
15:27.42AmadeoSo how do you check addon resource use in 2.1?
15:28.24GagoriannuoHep: Indeed. Yet I can't see how they figure out if it's casted by the player
15:28.32moonsorrowAmadeo: you need an addon afaik
15:28.34moonsorrowthey just provide the api
15:28.58Amadeooh :(
15:29.20moonsorrowthe only thing they are displaying is the total addon memory usage in the network performance meter
15:29.50nuoHepGagorian, UnitBuff/UnitDebuff return two new valuesat the end if it was casted by a player. timeLeft and duration (dont remember exact order)
15:30.29sbuhmmm
15:30.42sbuso you can also see which debuffs are "yours"?
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15:31.12nuoHepyeah. in the default ui they will be bigger than normal debuffs
15:31.15Gagorianname, rank, icon, count, debuffType, duration, timeLeft = UnitDebuff("target", i);
15:31.34GagorianYeah I can see it now, not very easy to figure out without testing :p
15:31.37[Ammo]nuoHep: wonder how they detect that
15:31.52GagorianIt could've just as well returned values for each
15:31.55[Ammo]or what the API is to request who's debuff it is
15:32.20sbu[Ammo]: iterate through debuffs and see which one returns duration+timeLeft?
15:32.33[Ammo]ah ok only your own debuffs return timeleft and duration?
15:32.42GagorianThat would determine if it's mine, yes, but not who has casted if nil
15:32.51Gagorian[Ammo]: Seems so
15:33.02[Ammo]sweet
15:33.02GagorianWhich is.. very nice
15:33.19GagorianTimer addons should be a hell of a lot easier to make work nicely :)
15:33.28[Ammo]need to add a 3rd aura frame to pitbull
15:33.31[Ammo]'own debuffs'
15:33.45Gagorianand durations left on em!
15:33.47sbuwtb Powerheal 4000 iteminfo :/
15:33.47[Ammo]yup
15:33.57CIA-1103trh * r32543 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoS.toc modules/DistributedTracker.lua): VanasKoS: yab - yet another bugfix
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15:34.24xyutesting testing 123as;dlfkj
15:35.08JJSheetstest failed... log off.
15:35.34xyuyour speaking has just made me pass kthx!
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15:35.40GagorianOh nice
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15:35.47GagorianIt works on self-buffs
15:35.51GagorianFinally a way to get max duration
15:36.08[Ammo]hmm?
15:36.11xyuAnyone use rapidcast macroes w/ clique?  please show me how!
15:36.42[Ammo]guess need 4 auraframes in pitbull, buffs, debuffs, mybuffs, mydebuffs :)
15:36.48[Ammo]with options to split em all etc
15:37.45JJSheetsgoing to work, ya'll have fun playing on th ptr.
15:37.47Gagorian"Fel Armor", "Rank 2", bla, 0, 1800, 1784.3
15:38.09[Ammo]does it work on other players as well?
15:38.13[Ammo]detecting which buffs are yours ;)
15:38.17nuoHepi wonder what it returns for auras
15:38.32Amadeohttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94204571&sid=1
15:38.44Gagorian[Ammo] yes I believe
15:38.58GagoriannuoHep: If there's no duration it's nil nil
15:39.14[Ammo]definately 4 aura frames needed then :)
15:39.23sbunice
15:39.29nuoHepso there is no way to determine if the aura is player casted
15:39.30Gagorianyes it works
15:39.59Gagorian"Unending Breath", ......., 600, 584
15:40.40[Ammo]schweet
15:42.04GagorianIndeed
15:42.44moonsorrowhm... anyone on the ptr and tested bongos? seems like it's totally bugged
15:43.09GagorianSeveral addons are broken so it's likely
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15:44.28moonsorrowonly two for me, bongos and clique, and I updated clique right before I entered the ptr, so I don't know if it's bugged on the live realm, too
15:44.33sbuhmm [Ammo] - if you make changes to ABF - plz put my(buffs|debuffs) aura frames above the frame (default) ;o
15:44.54[Ammo]haha
15:45.02sbuhaha? :p
15:45.21Loki|muhsomeone with engineering 375 and ptr char here? I'm searching for the materials needed for the epic gun
15:45.32sbunope, 358 :/
15:45.56deltronthey can make an epic gun?
15:45.56[Ammo]engineering bah
15:45.57Fisker-repeating!
15:46.02Fisker-yeah
15:46.03Fisker-new recipe
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15:46.04[Ammo]awaiting the results from the ptr
15:46.07deltronoh nice
15:46.14[Ammo]then dropping it I guess
15:46.25Loki|muhdeltron: yeah, >70 dps, from trainer, learnable at 375
15:46.27GagoriannuoHep: I take a bit back
15:46.33GagorianMounts return 0, 0
15:46.33deltronnot bad
15:46.43Loki|muhyeah
15:46.46Gagoriannot nil.. the lock MD buffs were nil
15:48.35moonsorrowmh, clique is broken on live, too :(
15:49.30sbu[Ammo]: hm - those goggles look pretty nice :o
15:49.41GagoriannuoHep: Blood Pact returns nil nil too but the caster is technically my imp so that doesn't proove it :P
15:49.50Gagorian-o
15:50.01GagorianGif me aura :(
15:50.49deltronhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/13/2-1-ptr-notes-continued/
15:51.11GagorianPrimal nether is 12 badges
15:51.19Gagorianand there's a new badge reward helm for 60 badges
15:51.37deltronman those patch notes are hard to read in that format
15:52.44Fisker-I'm disappointed with the Blades of Azzinoth look
15:52.45Fisker-:o
15:52.49Stephmweven the thread is hard to follow
15:53.33Fisker-Where's the rabbit :(
15:53.33[Ammo]cooked
15:53.33Fisker-I WANT THE RABBIT
15:53.52HjalteGagorian, where do you know that from?
15:55.36Stephmwdeltron: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94203802&sid=1
15:55.42Stephmwdeltron: maybe easier to follow
15:56.02deltronStephmw: rawk!
15:56.05CIA-1103sylvanaar * r32544 10Prat/ (14 files in 3 dirs): Prat: Fixed all the console menus so they use the proper lowercase commands. The module control menu is accessable via /prat enable. Code cleanup.
15:57.23GagorianHjalte: PTR
15:57.24Silviu-100g to unlearn one specific tailor thing
15:57.24GagorianAs in checked myself :>
15:57.24xyui hope "code cleanup" makes prat smaller :D
15:57.28Amadeohahah
15:57.36sylvanaarwhy does it need to be smaller?
15:57.43Punkie`Loki|muh: http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/engirogue.jpg (I think the mats are in the bottom right)
15:58.33Punkie`sylvanaar: why doesnt it need to be smaller?
15:58.36AmadeoFrost Grenade sucks compared to Netherweave Net, lol
15:58.39GagorianWarlock T5 is now compareable to tailored stuff
15:58.59GagorianI'd switch if I cba to do more SSC :>
15:59.04Fisker-that is it Punkie` :o
15:59.13Punkie`what is what?!
15:59.28sylvanaarwhy does it? is the real question, unless you are going to do the work
16:00.06Fisker-TEH MATS PUNKIE
16:00.15nuoHepeveryone have seen warlock t6 on a gnome already? %)
16:00.29Punkie`Fisker-: YESI WIN!
16:01.12sylvanaarhow do you even know how big it is- just repeating what other people say? or you have some insight
16:02.08nuoHephttp://worldofraids.free.fr/news-patch/full-t6/warlock2-t6.jpg gnome of doom
16:02.37nuoHepGagorian, i was going to test it with my buddy (pally) but the server went down :/
16:02.54Amadeothose wings are so goofy looking
16:03.14nuoHepthey are animated :)
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16:03.30GagorianI don't know if I should laugh or cry
16:03.48hyperChipmunkthey're friggin amazing
16:03.51Fisker-I hate this shit
16:03.57AmadeoThey should have made them look good
16:03.58Fisker-WHY DO WARLOCKS ALLWAYS GET THE COOL STUFF?
16:04.06hyperChipmunkyea, i agree
16:04.12Fisker-i think they look awesome
16:04.16AmadeoThey look like My Little Pony wings!
16:04.20hyperChipmunkand they always make hunters look revolting
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16:04.42hyperChipmunkgive us some camo, yo
16:04.44AmadeoNot that I care, I won't have T6 anyway
16:04.59Fisker-awww!
16:05.01hyperChipmunkwtf do i have fel cannons on my shoulders
16:05.04Fisker-Neither will i
16:06.05Fisker-Cause paladins got pwned
16:06.05AmadeoThe only thing that disappoints me is the sweeping class nerfs because of unbalanced gear
16:06.05AmadeoI'm ready for a new game :/
16:06.07sylvanaaryeah, too much push/pull with the class balance is going to put alot of people off
16:07.41hyperChipmunki like how nobody tries it before deciding to quit
16:07.41AmadeoBlizzard balances end-game raiders, and doesn't realize they screw over anyone who doesn't get that gear
16:07.42sylvanaar5 man and solo pve prolly remains unaffected largely
16:07.42AmadeoThey should have specific PvP balance, that is only in effect when players fight other players
16:08.21trhAmadeo: gotta wait until fall - warhammer
16:09.06AmadeoYeah, it's too long though :(
16:09.11Amadeoprobably be delayed too
16:09.23trhya.. and it could be crap too
16:09.33Silviu-Damn epic flymount fly so strange ..
16:09.39trhSilviu-: uh?
16:09.41AmadeoI don't think it will suck, only because I enjoyed DAoC a lot
16:09.51Loki|muhPunkie`: thx alot, didn't saw this earlier this day
16:10.26trhAmadeo: that doesnt mean anything... the important thing is usually the designer/programmer team and the lead of them
16:10.41AmadeoYeah, well then none of us should have hope in WoW :P
16:10.45Silviu-My epicmount moves his wings 20 times/s
16:10.46Silviu-:/
16:10.54trhpaired with the budget/what the shareholders expect
16:11.01Silviu-On ptr pvp
16:11.22trhAmadeo: actually wow is a pretty good mmorpg - atm all other mmorpgs are alot worse
16:11.59AmadeoI think it's good because it's accessable
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16:12.16AmadeoIf EQ2 were the best MMORPG out, I couldn't play it anyway, I don't have a supercomputer
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16:13.10TecnoBratMan, Paladins got nerfed pretty hardcore
16:13.13AmadeoI heard John Romero's team is working on an MMORPG, lol...
16:13.15TecnoBratBut I knew it was coming
16:13.56ArrowmasterAmadeo: so well see it when MMORPGs are no longer popular?
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16:17.46TecnoBrattrh, they lose a lot more than that ... but thats not the point
16:18.00trhi don't think they'll turn into bad healers because of it
16:18.19TecnoBratI could spam FoL on a fight, and never go below 99% mana with a shadow priest
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16:18.19Fisker-blizzard destroyed paladins
16:18.19Fisker-rawr
16:18.28TecnoBratI've got a set of gear with 136 mp5
16:18.33TecnoBratI'll just use that
16:18.45TecnoBratAnd like 1450 healing
16:18.48sylvanaarim playing a shadow priest now, i didnt invest myself too much, i can always level my warlock imo
16:18.51trhomg.. i'd love to have a device that'd let me play a song on every whineadins computer
16:19.03trhi'd choose "it's the end of world" from r.e.m.
16:19.14TecnoBrattrh, I'm not whining .. dont get me wrong.
16:19.25TecnoBratPaladin healing was OP .. clearly.
16:19.55trhya.. and if the 50% nerf was too hard they'll buff it to 75% sooner or later
16:20.03Fisker-the nerf was overkill still
16:20.17trhhey.. my class was nerfed every single patch since 1.8, so cry me a river
16:20.30TecnoBratThe Illumination nerf was caused by gear itemization IMO
16:20.38TecnoBratthe gladiator set has WAYYYYYY too much crit on it
16:20.39sylvanaarwhat class are you?
16:20.42trhhunter
16:20.45sylvanaarlol
16:20.48sylvanaarwhatever
16:21.00trhyou dont want to deny the nerfing, do you?
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16:21.26Stephmwdeny? nerfing? on the _hunter_ class?
16:21.28TecnoBratThe Illumination nerf doesnt make much sense, as it been that way in the game for ever and ever .. seems odd they decided to change it now
16:21.43TecnoBratBut meh, I can live with it.
16:21.43sylvanaaryou got the same nerfs other classes got, you just got them late
16:21.49deltronshaman got a BIG nerf in elemental and enhancement :(
16:21.53Fisker-They should've changed the items instead
16:22.01TecnoBratNow, onto another question .. anyone tested the new addon profiling yet?
16:22.09sylvanaarits there
16:22.22TecnoBratAnd? Any comments? :)
16:22.27trhsylvanaar: ah well.. at the moment hunters are nerfed too bad... when my raid dps is about 50 to 75% of other DD's with about the same gear, then there is something wrong
16:22.36sylvanaartheres a little ui that shows your top 3 memory using addons
16:22.53Tornhoofactually only in ele, enh nerf is not much combined with the reduced glancing blows
16:23.16TecnoBratAll melee got buffed big time from what I have heard
16:23.19Tornhoofresto is nerfed thanks to the reduced regen buffs nonw
16:23.21Tornhoofnow
16:23.27sylvanaaryou can see it if you mouse over the network latency meter
16:23.34TecnoBratTornhoof, how so?
16:23.54Tornhoofshamans have no skillable means of manareg
16:24.00Tornhoofthey rely purely on mp5
16:24.19Tornhoofnerfed flask, no stacking elixirs, bad for them
16:24.45nuoHepGagorian, it returns 0 0 for auras
16:24.50TecnoBratthey are also nerfing the encounters
16:24.52Fisker-it's somewhat the same as paladins
16:24.53TecnoBratso we will see.
16:24.55moonsorrowshamans rely on skill
16:24.57Tornhoofno they are not tecno
16:25.04Tornhoofonly those who rely on flasks
16:25.13Tornhoofthey are retuning new ones
16:25.22Fisker-No
16:25.24TecnoBratTornhoof, yes, they are. They are retuning all encounters that were tuned using full pot buffs.
16:25.29GagoriannuoHep, nice.. So it can be checked
16:25.31Fisker-^^
16:25.34TecnoBratWhich is all of SS and TK
16:25.38Tornhoofno encounter is tuned for shamans tecno ;)
16:25.49Tornhoofnot for resto shamans atleast
16:25.54TecnoBratThey also fixed mana tide
16:25.55TecnoBratfinally
16:26.01sylvanaartrh dunno who are you comparing with
16:26.07Tornhoofyah great i loved the 5 ticks i had once in awhile
16:26.14Tornhoofi had 5 ticks more often than 3 ticks
16:26.17moonsorrowTornhoof: I fully disagree
16:26.49trhsylvanaar: warlocks, rogues, mages - depending on the fight
16:26.50Tornhoofhmm still healing the same with roughly 80 mp5 less?
16:26.56deltronshaman got hit with nerf bat for all specs :P
16:27.11moonsorrowWhy should I have 80 mp5 less? do you really think I would use flasks all the time?
16:27.33TecnoBratSorry I'm really confused.
16:27.40TecnoBratWhat mana regen were you using?
16:28.01Tornhoofno, the question is always min/max possibilities
16:28.04Tornhoofour max got cut
16:28.10TecnoBratYes, tell me max.
16:28.13moonsorrowso?
16:28.28Tornhooflemme see
16:28.50Tornhoofpriest and druid still have skillable scaling manareg
16:29.23TecnoBratand neither do paladins
16:29.29Tornhoofyeh not talking about palas
16:29.31deltronpaladins get mana back from heals
16:29.42Tornhoofyou probably got nerfed worse
16:29.52sylvanaartrh dunno how you can have that dps + have a pet which has alot of dps too
16:29.52TecnoBratdeltron, now they get 1/2 of what we got back before
16:29.53Tornhoofresto shamans wasn't nerfed as a class
16:29.54Fisker-THIS IS PAAAAAAAAAAAAALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINS
16:30.03Tornhoofrather a side effect of the elixir changes
16:30.07TecnoBratdeltron, and we dont get mana back when we are full health and someone heals us
16:30.10sylvanaarbtw soul-link to enslaved demons is back
16:30.14deltronTecnoBrat: that's beside the point, they regen mana that way
16:30.30TecnoBratwe now get 50% mana back when we crit .. thats it.
16:30.31deltronthat's way more mana regen than a shaman could have
16:30.41trhsylvanaar: if you add the petdamage the difference is a bit smaller, but still it's at least 20%
16:31.06deltronthat's like having a mana tide totem down all the time
16:31.06moonsorrowTornhoof: and that's good in my opinion, it doesn't makes sense that you have way more mana regen with a flask
16:31.06TecnoBratdeltron, what is? 20% crit?
16:31.06moonsorrowit should be a minor help, nothing more
16:31.06TecnoBratare you nuts?
16:31.25Tornhoofyeh it should be a minor help moonsorrow
16:31.34Tornhoofa minor help to get resto shaman near holy priest/resto druid
16:31.43Tornhoofwhich it was
16:31.47Tornhoofnot it is not anymore
16:31.56moonsorrowand again I don't agree, I'm as good as a holy priest :)
16:32.30deltronI was a resto shaman
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16:32.37AmadeoHey, no wonder there are so many nerfs
16:32.39eXpleziteHi
16:32.40Tornhoofwith him chain chugging the mana pots as you are?
16:32.41Amadeoit's Friday the 13th! Doom!
16:32.42trhmoonsorrow: but the holy priest can't change his equipment and is able to tank
16:32.52eXplezitecan anyone tell me why i can't see any FuBar bar ?
16:32.55Tornhoofthe shaman can't do that either
16:33.01moonsorrowTornhoof: nope, I rarely use mana pots
16:33.22trhtodd`: ya... healing shamans are a bit f*cked up... they still can heal but use alot of mana
16:33.34trhi meant Tornhoof
16:33.35Stephmwurgh
16:33.39eXpleziteCan i have support please? :(
16:33.41deltronwhen I was resto, I had many mana pots, dark runes, and a ton of stuff when I was resto
16:33.44StephmwPitBull buffs are fscked
16:33.49Stephmwframes too
16:33.57sylvanaarreally, i was flash heal/chain healed off the charts with my resto druid it was always priests - shamen at the top
16:34.25eXpleziteckknight are you there? :/
16:34.37Tornhoofwell moonsorrow since i know you gear, you probably right, but either your holy priests have worse gear or are bad healers
16:34.49TecnoBratsylvanaar, your paladins weren't at the top?
16:34.54Tornhoofif you keep the skill out of your equation ;)
16:34.56sylvanaarno
16:34.57moonsorrowTornhoof: you really think so? :)
16:35.07eXpleziteAnyone german?
16:35.08moonsorrowour priests know what they are doing
16:35.10Tornhooftalent wise, spellwise?
16:35.12Tornhoofyeh
16:35.18Tornhoofpriest healing is superior
16:35.23TecnoBratOur healing meter currently goes "Paladin, Paladin, Paladin, Druid, Druid, Paladin, Priest, Priest, Shadow Priest, Shadow Priest"
16:35.33Tornhoofcheaper,better regen
16:35.50TecnoBratAnd the paladins will be at like 140k, and the priests at like 60k
16:36.00sylvanaarpriest priest shaman shaman druid paladin
16:36.11TecnoBratyou horde?
16:36.16sbuhm
16:36.16sylvanaarno
16:36.27sbuits "Priest Priest/Shaman Paladin Priest" here ;o
16:36.28moonsorrowIt depends on so many things if a paladin/priest/shaman/druid is at the top of the healing meter
16:36.31TecnoBratOh wow
16:36.37Tornhoofyes moonsorrow
16:36.40TecnoBratOur paladins rape our healing meter, lol
16:36.40Stephmwckknight: PitBull\Portrait\Portrait.lua:85 attempt to call method 'SetUnit' (a nil value)
16:36.41Tornhoofbut that is not the point
16:36.52Tornhoofand it's not about the healing meter anyway
16:36.53sylvanaarthats about the same as what im saying
16:37.06vhaarrTornhoof: Doesn't mean anything.
16:37.22eXpleziteCan anyone tell me why i can't see bars of FuBar Addon ?? Pleasee :(
16:37.28vhaarrIt could just mean that your priests are very clever and only heal when they actually need to, and your paladins just click-spam like fucking maniacs.
16:37.29TecnoBratWe have SHITTY Holy Priests ...
16:37.44TecnoBratBTW, any holy priests wanna join a guild on Korgath US? :P
16:37.54Hjaltevhaar, i thought that was the paladin trademark ;)
16:38.00vhaarrindeed it is
16:38.10sylvanaarbut i would channel tranquility and the priest in my group would PoH flash heal before my hots tic and im at the bottom of the heal meter
16:38.13TecnoBratvhaarr, nah, when we assign priest to our MT, he dies
16:38.21TecnoBratWhen we assign paladins .. he lives
16:38.25vhaarrYour priests suck then.
16:38.27TecnoBratso its not efficiency and skill.
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16:38.34TecnoBratYes, they certainly do.
16:38.51Tornhoofthe issue rather is moonsorrow, that a full resto shaman should have class based mana regen capabilities, since is about as limited to a certain role in the game as a holy priest is, but he has not, previously you could get around that problem by using external manareg, now this way is limited ;)
16:39.39eXpleziteHello?? Did anyone know why i can't see bars of FuBar? -.-
16:39.41deltronand mana regen from totems do not count
16:39.49TecnoBrat24% of your mana back every 5 mins is bad?
16:39.54deltroneXplezite: try deleting your fubar savedvariables
16:40.00TecnoBratThats not a class based mana regen capability?
16:40.02moonsorrowI agree that a skill would be nice to raise the mana regen a little bit, because that is our only way to get some mana, instead of spirit for priests and druids.
16:40.22eXplezitei didn't have saved variables of fubar :/ i was deleting my whole WTF folder :/
16:40.34moonsorrowbut I like it that way actually, so you really have to care when to heal
16:40.41Tornhoofyes
16:40.51moonsorrowand try to get as less overheal as possible
16:40.55Tornhoofi wouldn't mind having that ele mp5 talent in deep resto though
16:41.01vhaarrI'm not sure what you guys are discussing, but the changes to mana regen in this patch are good.
16:41.13TecnoBratmanatide is nice, no matter what way you point it.
16:41.20Tornhoofmanatide
16:41.26Tornhoofis a free mana potion every 5min
16:41.30Tornhoofnothing more, nothing else
16:41.40TecnoBratits 24% of your mana, thats nice.
16:41.51sylvanaarhow does it work? 24% of each person's mana?
16:41.54Tornhoofyes
16:41.59deltrononly in party
16:42.06deltronand if they are in range
16:42.07Tornhoofso basically around 2500 mana for each person in your group
16:42.11TecnoBratsylvanaar, 24% of the shamans mana, to everyone else
16:42.18TecnoBratso if they shaman has 10k mana
16:42.22TecnoBrat2400 mana to everyone
16:42.29Tornhoofin 5min
16:42.45TecnoBratevery 5 mins, yes
16:42.51TecnoBratso you can use it once per boss fight
16:42.53sylvanaarok, so thats like a mini-innervate or a pot yeah
16:42.54AmadeoI need a site like imageshack, but for other files
16:43.00Tornhoofit's a free pot
16:43.02TecnoBratsylvanaar, basically, yea
16:43.07Tornhoofand that's how you can see it
16:43.15deltrondepends on where you place it
16:43.18Tornhoofand that's a 31ptr
16:43.34TecnoBratit also effects all of your party, so it also has awesome utility.
16:43.54moonsorrowfor 5 people 2500 mana, mana tide is very nice
16:44.00Tornhoofyes
16:44.07sylvanaari used to burn my innervate in the first min of a fight so id have another at the end, im  sure you can do same thing
16:44.21TecnoBratI'm hoping this patch makes healing on paladin more challenging.
16:44.31Tornhoofnobody discusses the usability of mana tide here
16:44.37TecnoBratsylvanaar, they absolutely can.
16:45.33deltronI always tried to burn my mana tide early
16:45.44deltronespecially in long fights
16:47.10Gagorianspell haste is nerfed to oblivion
16:47.25Gagorianquagmirran's eye reduces cast time * 0.86833
16:47.45sylvanaarhowever i used  dreamstate spec, and i didnt need the innervate anymore, they didnt nerf that looks like
16:48.14Tornhoofwhat's the new spell haste value?
16:48.14TecnoBratHeh, so I just did some calculations .. spamming Flash of Light, with a 20% crit rate, I will get 3600 mana back after the patch
16:48.14TecnoBratover 5 mins
16:48.40TecnoBratinstead of the 7200 I get now in the same period
16:48.47vhaarrexcellent
16:48.49GagorianTornhoof: Well you can calculate it from that
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16:48.58TecnoBratso its basically online with mana tide, or close anyways
16:49.10TecnoBratand doesnt effect my party
16:49.26Gagorian320 spell haste is cast time * 0.86833
16:49.34eXpleziteFuBar currently not showing Bars :( after second delete of WTF folder it wouldn't work, please help me :/
16:49.39TecnoBratI would have to use 36,000 mana to accomplish that though ... lol
16:49.47Tornhoofah 0.86833 is the new value?
16:49.54Gagorianfor 320
16:50.00Tornhoofyeh ok
16:50.09Gagorianwell I tested that with soul fire
16:50.14Gagorian5.21s / 6s
16:50.19sylvanaari want to try spell haste with mindflay
16:50.23GagorianSo it's not exact
16:50.47Gagoriansylvanaar: Works with drain life at least
16:50.47hasteall this take about haste makes my log larger :<
16:50.50Gagorian:>
16:51.01eXplezite-.-
16:51.06xyuwow
16:51.11sylvanaardoesnt work with hots or dots right/
16:51.14xyui totally read his sentence wrong
16:51.31otraviI wrote it wrong also
16:51.31eXplezitePlease Help me :|
16:51.33Gagorianso apparently 24.3 haste rating is 1%
16:51.37Tornhoofyeh
16:51.41xyu[00:50:37] <haste> all this take about haste makes my log larger :<
16:51.44Tornhoofit's about 10 points more than before
16:52.05chutwigxyu: i read that totally different
16:52.08Gagorianold value was 0.692?
16:52.29Tornhoofold value was 13.7 haste rating is 1%
16:52.51Gagorianafter buff?
16:53.12Tornhoofdunno
16:53.24GagorianBecause it was 15.8 before it got buffed by '50%'
16:53.31ravagernlI wonder how much spell haste you would need for a 3 second pyro lol
16:53.34eXpleziteWhy nobody can help me? :/
16:54.10Tornhoofi read that value on wowwiki gagorian
16:54.26CIA-1103helium * r32546 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (FuBar_SkillsPlusFu.toc SkillsPlusFuLocals-zhTW.lua):
16:54.26CIA-11FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
16:54.26CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
16:55.00eXpleziteNeed support for FuBar please help -.-
16:55.20GagorianTornhoof: Well, could test it on live I guess
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16:55.27Tornhoofnever tested it with spell haste
16:55.33Tornhoofthe melee haste is 13.7 though
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16:56.07Gagoriangot more exact now
16:56.11Gagorian13.02/15 on drain life
16:56.19Gagorian*drain soul
16:56.37Tornhoofthat's a channeled one right?
16:56.46chutwigyeah
16:56.46Tornhoofthat's different again
16:56.46chutwigdid you see the warlock trinket from TK
16:56.50chutwigadds like +400 damage to drain soul
16:56.52chutwiglaugh on line
16:56.59Gagorian...
16:57.15Fisker-lawl
16:57.19Gagorianchanneled is same as direct nuke
16:57.22Tornhoofno
16:57.26chutwigthey might as well just pre-DE it for you
16:57.27Gagorian0.868
16:57.28TecnoBratwhats the name of it?
16:57.28Tornhoofthey said something about that in the ptr
16:57.34Gagorianwell it's the same
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16:57.53GagorianSoul Fire: 5.21/6 = 0.86833 Drain Life: 13.02/15 = 0.868
16:58.19TornhoofSpell Haste: The amount of spell haste rating needed per percentage of haste has been increased substantially. However, spell haste will now affect channeled spells, increasing the rate of their effects and decreasing their total duration. The same amount of damage/healing per casting will occur, but will take less time.
16:58.22Tornhoofthats the notes
16:58.25Tornhoofit should be different
16:58.54GagorianHow so?
16:59.27Tornhoofsince they write about channeled spell
16:59.33Tornhoofso it should be different on live
16:59.49GagorianBoth my tests are on PTR
16:59.54art3misooo that would be neat
16:59.56Tornhoofyeh that's correct then
17:00.05GagorianOn live it doesn't work on channeling
17:00.11art3misbut a hit could REALLY fuck it up
17:00.14Tornhoofon live it's currently 13.7 for non channeled
17:00.25Tornhoofso they upped it by 10.5 roughly
17:01.40TecnoBratlol so blizzard cant make up thier minds about Mangle (Bear)
17:02.15TecnoBratNerfed the damage. Hotfixed the aggro. Now buffed the damage, nerfed the aggro
17:02.17TecnoBratfunny.
17:02.51eXpleziteomfg.. Please help me with FuBar i can't see any bars :/ i'm using FuBar Plugin 2.0 -.-
17:02.55chutwigthe aggro nerf was only in relation to the increased damage
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17:03.03deltroneXplezite: delete your savedvariables
17:03.12chutwigthe amount of threat actually generated remains the same
17:03.16TecnoBratchutwig, so was the original aggro buff
17:03.24eXplezitedeltron: i was deleting the whole WTF folder mor than 2 times -.-
17:03.31TecnoBratits just funny, they cant decide if they want it to do damage, or not.
17:03.40deltroneXplezite: delete the fubar mods and re-download them
17:03.46TecnoBrateXplezite, did you update?
17:03.53GagorianOn live cast time: 7.67/10
17:03.59chutwigthey don't want to gimp bearform too much but they don't want it to be like a warrior with even more hp and armor
17:04.01TecnoBrateXplezite, do you have bugsack? is it showing any errors?
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17:04.05eXpleziteYes i was updating all my plugins with WAU
17:04.11deltroneXplezite: download using WinAceUpdater or from files.wowace.com
17:04.28GagorianSo yeah that's 13.73
17:05.00eXplezitedeltron: i made it with WAU :/
17:05.22mjcey diode :)
17:05.30mjcjust got 2 more GB to install
17:05.51mjc$125/stick :(
17:05.54TecnoBrateXplezite, go to the settings in WAU, have it ignore the version checks... update, see if that helps.
17:05.57deltronmjc: heh what's that now, 8GB?
17:06.04mjc12.
17:06.12deltronchrist
17:06.13eXpleziteTecnobrat: ok i'll check it now
17:06.25TecnoBrateXplezite, I assume you are testing live, and not the PTRs, right?
17:06.44eXplezitePTR is meaning?
17:07.23TecnoBratThe test realms.
17:07.40TecnoBratby that answer, I assume you are doing it live :P
17:07.41eXplezitenoo i only test on Normal realm
17:08.34Fisker-public test realm TecnoBrat!
17:08.43TecnoBratheh
17:09.15Fisker-lol wtf
17:09.24Fisker-can't write www.mmo-champion.com ingame
17:10.01AmadeoThere's a thread saying Polymorph no longer heals on PTR
17:10.01mjcdeltron: I juyst told you when I opened the package, already booting back up
17:10.01mjcwewt for properly designed cases
17:10.13mjcI have full slots now though :(
17:10.20Fisker-I got it!
17:10.22Punkie`Fisker-: why?
17:10.25Fisker-The new name for holy paladins
17:10.27Fisker-oombots!
17:10.31deltronheh
17:10.46mjca holy paladin that ooms needs to learn to spell crit
17:10.46sylvanaarthey are saying it in chat on the ptr
17:11.01TecnoBratmjc, that got nerfed :P
17:11.06Fisker-^^
17:11.10mjcbah
17:11.10sylvanaarpoly doesnt heal - but does it last the same time?
17:11.13mjcit's like the core of how the class works
17:11.13TecnoBratonly returns 50% mana, instead of 100% now
17:11.14chutwigno
17:11.17chutwig8 seconds instead of 20
17:11.21Fisker-indeed mjc
17:11.24Fisker-but it isn't anymore
17:11.29sylvanaaryeah, so prolly not long enough to notice
17:11.31chutwigthey should reduce it to heal 40% of health only
17:11.38chutwigin line with the duration change
17:11.38TecnoBratmp5 is the core of how the class works.
17:11.40Fisker-If they only would put all the useful talents in the first 2 tiers of the tree i could spec like 20/41
17:12.18TecnoBratAnd .. the best news ever
17:12.26TecnoBratOMG they fixed Arcane Missles!!
17:12.32TecnoBratOnly been bugged since launch!
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17:12.56Fisker-there's still blink though
17:13.12TecnoBratweird, they changed healing stream totem to 2 min duration?
17:13.15Fisker-can it be's otiems again?
17:13.35deltronTecnoBrat: it's about time
17:13.49deltronTecnoBrat: it needed to be like that, it's been 1 min
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17:13.53Fisker-you're missing the big picture!
17:13.56Fisker-Blink is still bugged :o
17:15.04unduHmmmmmmmmm
17:15.20Stephmws/still//
17:15.22unduam I the only one with SERIOUS bugs with latest Pitbull?
17:15.42unduBuff icons of all sizes all over the place.
17:15.57Fisker-got no such issues!
17:16.05Arrowmasterthat 8 second polly instead of 20 seconds thing in the patch notes was only talking about mobs that cast polly
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17:16.28deltronundu: i get the same
17:16.37Fisker-Hence the "Raids and dungeons" part
17:16.37Fisker-;D
17:16.42Stephmwundu, deltron: same
17:17.05StephmwI added a "if UnitExists(unit) then ... end" block around that bit of the code
17:17.15Stephmwstops the error message
17:17.21unduGuess I'll have to run standard frames for this raid then. :o
17:17.47deltronI was getting some weird error where my buffs and stuff were showing up in my party frames
17:18.10TecnoBratArrowmaster, yea.. I'm looking at the spell changed on thott .. mobs will now dismount you when they poly you too! lol
17:18.15deltronlike my crown on my toon
17:18.18deltronsince I was party leader
17:18.27mjcugh
17:18.28ArrowmasterTecnoBrat: they didnt before?
17:18.34mjcdeltron: I hate fucking PAE
17:18.36TecnoBrataparantly not, lol
17:18.36Stephmwdeltron: my quickfix fixed that for me
17:18.45mjcWTB x64 fixes
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17:19.02Arrowmasterwtb working character copy
17:19.07TecnoBratwow....
17:19.08unduUS/EU?
17:19.17TecnoBratHunters mark got a HUGE buff
17:19.18Arrowmasterus
17:19.31Arrowmasteryeah how does that stack now?
17:19.34TecnoBratPlaces the Hunter's Mark on the target, increasing the ranged attack power of all attackers against that target by 110 and by an additional 11 each time they are struck by a ranged attack, up to a maximum of 440.
17:19.47deltronmjc: I like PIE
17:19.49Arrowmasteroh wow
17:19.51Fisker-they removed melee attack power again?
17:19.52TecnoBratOld version ..
17:19.53TecnoBratPlaces the Hunter's Mark on the target, increasing the ranged attack power of all attackers against that target by 110.
17:19.58ArrowmasterFisker-: no
17:20.02Amadeohttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94164526&sid=1&pageNo=1
17:20.03deltronTecnoBrat: supposedly they did that before
17:20.04mjcdeltron: lol, * > PAE
17:20.04eXplezitedeltron: i was deleting all contents of //Interface//Addons// but All Addons of Fubar works.. but i can't see any bar like Titanpanel -.-
17:20.06AmadeoPolymorph no longer heals
17:20.07Amadeorofl
17:20.12deltronmjc: what's PAE anyways?
17:20.16Fisker-lol?
17:20.22nuoHepmelee does not get this 440 tho, only 110 base
17:20.22Fisker-wtf is wrong with blizzard
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17:20.32AmadeoFisker-: Hopefully a bug
17:20.32Amadeohaha
17:20.35TecnoBratAmadeo, I believe thats a bug ...
17:20.41Fisker-i fucking hope so Amadeo
17:20.43Arrowmastermelee only gets the 110 if the hunter has 5/5 imp hunters mark
17:20.49unduWasn't the melee part talented?
17:20.49TecnoBratthe tooltip and buff still says increased regen
17:20.51deltronpolymorph no longer heals = harder CoT: Durnholde
17:20.58Amadeodamn, I think I linked the wrong thread
17:20.58mjcdeltron: 36bit addressing
17:21.10mjchow you access more than 4GB on x86 32bit
17:21.16deltroneXplezite: do you have any plugins loaded?
17:21.26deltronmjc: oh
17:21.47Amadeonow I can't get the right link because of slow forums!
17:21.49eXplezitedeltron: yes i have... but all downloaded with WAU :/
17:22.04deltronhmm
17:22.13deltronexp: I didn't have this issue last night
17:22.15Fisker-Well it would be just as retarded as chains of ice @ beta
17:22.18Amadeomjc: What do you do on your Mac with all that hardware?
17:22.31deltronAmadeo: I wonder the same thing :P
17:22.48eXpleziteall is workin without any errors of LUA or anything else, but i can't see bars^^
17:22.56AmadeoI mean, I know he was trying Vista, but damn... ;)
17:23.02mjclots of compiling, multiple copies of wow,etc.
17:23.07mjcmovies
17:23.14mjcvideo encoding
17:23.17mjcall at the same time
17:23.17mjcheh
17:23.19deltronmjc: heh britt was getting shammy advice from me last night
17:23.19AmadeoFisker-: This is the thread I meant - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94961048&sid=1
17:23.22Amadeomjc: haha
17:24.02mjcdeltron: yep
17:24.07mjcAmadeo: not kidding
17:24.14AmadeoI didn't say you were
17:24.27mjcdeltron: I need to get some raid6 going soon, disk is bottleneck
17:24.34eXplezitedeltron: or can it be that i have to use a command for FuBar ? like /fubar ...
17:24.38deltronmjc: dude the windfury nerf might mean shaman have to use 1 fast weapon from now on :(
17:25.03mjcdeltron: WF was nerfed a while ago, the mixed rank thing was nerfed in 1.12
17:25.10mjcmight get nerfed again in 2.1.0?
17:25.15Gnarfozmjc: areca pci-e raid6 sata2 card? ^^
17:25.17deltroneXplezite: it should load automagically, do you see it when you go to the 'addons' section on the character select screen
17:25.20deltronyeah it's nerfed again
17:25.28mjcGnarfoz: SAS
17:25.38deltronmjc: "Windfury Weapon": Mixing two different ranks of "Windfury Weapon" while dual-wielding will no longer increase the number of "Windfury Weapon" procs.
17:25.39TecnoBratmjc, it wasnt nerfed in 1.12
17:25.46deltronit's never been fixed
17:25.50mjchmm
17:25.51Gnarfozmjc: expensive :<
17:25.52TecnoBratThey finally fixed it now.
17:25.57mjcI thought it was fixed on PTR 1.12
17:25.59mjcoh well :)
17:26.02TecnoBratnope
17:26.04eXplezitedeltron: yes i see it, and it doesn't give me a reason or anything else, it is activated..
17:26.15mjchttp://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEdrv.mspx
17:26.26mjchttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
17:27.39deltroneXplezite: I'm not sure then, I'm not a fubar guru by any means :/
17:27.48eXplezite:(
17:28.58eXplezitedeltron: what should i do with the FuBarPlugin-2.0 Folder? should i copy/paste the Content to Fubar Folder?
17:29.24deltronare you downloading the mods to your interface/addons folder?
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17:29.31eXpleziteyes
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17:31.41eXpleziteor did i have to download ace2 libraries? -.-
17:31.54deltronpossibly
17:32.04deltronuse F10 to update your mods from WAU
17:32.12eXpleziteok
17:35.46Gnarfozwhat's the difference between F10 and F12 anyway?
17:36.19Fisker-F10 tries to determine if it should update with or without externals i believe
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17:36.40Fisker-i.e. if you don't have standalonelibs package it will update with externals
17:36.45GnarfozF10 = smart, F12 = force, I see :)
17:38.51TecnoBratanyone on the PTR?
17:39.02Arrowmasterim on right now
17:39.02TecnoBratWho can check what stats Flask of Mighty Restoration has now
17:39.05Arrowmasteron the pvp one
17:39.14zacmighty restore = 25mp5
17:39.21Arrowmasteri cant check anything
17:39.34TecnoBratzac, what about flask of fort, and flask of titans?
17:39.35Arrowmastercharacter copy doesnt work so i made a lvl 1 and im running to org
17:39.46Arrowmasterhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=95.0
17:39.53zacTecnoBrat: I think fort is 500hp, titans 250? not sure. I know mighty restore is confirmed at http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=1&forumId=11116
17:40.03ArrowmasterFlask of Fortification 500 HP and 10 Defense Rating
17:40.11ArrowmasterFlask of Titans 400 HP
17:40.28eXplezitedeltron: i was creating a new test character and there it work... on my old char doesn't :/
17:42.33deltroneXplezite: there's the main savedvariables folder in WTF, and one under your toons name, make sure you delete any fubar related stuff in there
17:42.43TecnoBratArrowmaster, damn, that site wont load
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17:42.46kergothis there an official 2.1 patch notes available?
17:42.53TecnoBratI assume that has all of the flask changes on it?
17:42.53eXplezitei was delteing all stuff
17:42.54TecnoBratkergoth, yes, wow forums, general
17:43.04kergoththanks
17:43.30deltronkergoth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94203802&sid=1
17:43.30hyperChipmunkhttp://ace.pastey.net/12052
17:43.48hyperChipmunkif you don't wanna go to forums =p
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17:44.24Fisker-i get to bug you with bugreports ckknight
17:46.26AmadeoSomeone needs to make a quick addon so we can see the resources our addons are using on PTR :P
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17:46.39vhaarrIf I could LOG IN to the PTR, sure.
17:46.41vhaarrBut nooooo.
17:46.43deltronAmadeo: it's built into wow already
17:46.49vhaarrMy account has expired, apparently.
17:47.03vhaarrAnd yet I can log in to 2.0.12.
17:47.14Amadeodeltron: How do you see it?
17:47.16the_squidanyone having issues with QuestsFu?
17:47.27Amadeovhaarr: Nice! No more payments!
17:47.28vhaarrlol
17:47.37deltronAmadeo: The network performance meter now shows framerate and how much memory AddOns are using.
17:47.41AmadeoFinally they're giving back for you repairing armor in Grom'Gol for so long
17:47.52Amadeodeltron: I mean individually
17:47.53vhaarrhaha
17:47.54vhaarryeah
17:47.58deltronAmadeo: oh no clue
17:48.01vhaarrit's a shitty job but someone has to do it
17:48.04Amadeohaha
17:48.40zacinteresting, a really old copy of my character was transferred to the PTR.
17:48.57AmadeoIt's your last PTR transfer
17:49.00Kemayothe_squid: What issues would you be referring to?
17:49.27the_squidKemayo, just updated with WAU, it shows 0 quests and the tracker part is broken as well
17:49.59KemayoNo errors?
17:50.29the_squidNope, but then again I haven't played with it yet
17:50.30TecnoBratArrowmaster, do you happen to have that wow-champion site still open .. can you pastey me the flask changes?
17:51.11zacthey changed the icon for Talasite :o
17:51.12kenlyricchange - spell power flask still takes black lotus, lol noobs!
17:51.29deltronkenlyric: ouch lol
17:53.44mjcdeltron: are you in wow atm?
17:54.05Fisker-btw
17:54.06deltronmjc: nope at work :/
17:54.11mjck
17:54.13Fisker-is mmo-champion.com a chinese goldfarmer site?
17:54.22zackenlyric: and it's only +70 dmg :/
17:54.25kenlyricit's blocked by wow.
17:54.26Fisker-i'm wondering why blizzard would block the url on our servers
17:54.26Fisker-:o
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17:54.34TecnoBratFisker-, yes
17:54.38TecnoBratits a gold spam site
17:54.47Fisker-awesome
17:54.57kenlyricflying mounts are pretty now.
17:55.28kenlyricthey fly on the ground, and go into convulsions in the air... like riding a moth.
17:55.29Bibi`ouFmmo-champion.com a gold spam site ?
17:55.30Bibi`ouFrly ?
17:55.55Bibi`ouFI don't look that chinese tbh. :/
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17:56.14kenlyricso, has anyone yet tested out their autodismount feature?
17:56.20Fisker-yeah
17:56.21Fisker-it sucks
17:56.24kenlyriccause I just did.... 300 feet in the air.
17:56.27TecnoBratperhaps I'm mistaking it for another site
17:56.30Fisker-It also makes you swim in the air
17:56.38TecnoBratbut I believe I have gotten spam from it before
17:56.50TecnoBratBibi`ouF are you saying its your site? :P
17:57.04kenlyricit makes you swim for a second.
17:57.14Bibi`ouFTecnoBrat : indeed
17:57.17Arrowmasterany mages on the pvp ptr that can port me to shattrath?
17:57.29Fisker-and it doesn't work for stuff like holy light and stuff
17:57.29TecnoBratBibi`ouF, I must be mistaking it for some other site
17:57.36TecnoBratand Bibi`ouF, I cant get it to load! :P
17:57.42TecnoBratFIIIIIIX :PP
17:57.48kenlyrici'm hoping that's a bug they'll fix.
17:57.51Fisker-however the spells you can cast are also cast with the dismount :o
17:57.54Fisker-so that's awesome
17:58.00kenlyriccause I don't want my auto buffer killing me in mid flight.
17:58.01Bibi`ouFwell
17:58.03TecnoBratkenlyric, yea, its a known bug
17:58.07TecnoBratI saw a post this morning
17:58.07Bibi`ouFmy sysadmin thought it would be the good time to go out
17:58.07Fisker-instead of having to spam the button
17:58.09Bibi`ouFso i can't fix it
17:58.10Bibi`ouF:/
17:58.13TecnoBrathaha
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17:59.40kenlyricit's a nice thing to have in some situations, like when you jump off the bridge in deadwind on your mount and realize you're not going to hit the water.
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18:00.04mexicaanIs there a macro condition something like [isCasting] ?
18:00.06Fisker-wtf
18:00.09Fisker-nice timing kenlyric
18:00.10kenlyricand, of course, dive bombing death from above in world pvp
18:00.18Fisker-one guy in our raid just died to that
18:00.27shieldbkenlyric, I think I'll be leaving blizzard's autodismount feature off and just using automaton's, since that works right ;)
18:00.41shieldbit'll dismount you if you're on a land mount or not flying, but not while you're flying on a flying mount
18:00.41Fisker-i like mountme's better
18:00.44kenlyricwell, I don't use mods in test, cause I"m not crazy.
18:00.56Fisker-but since that crashes my computer i can't really use that
18:01.19TecnoBratDoes anyone have a comprehensive list of flask changes anywhere?
18:01.35vhaarrhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/94850206.htm
18:01.45vhaarrmmo-champion has them all
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18:01.51nymbiaTecnoBrat: just divide all the effects and mats by about 3
18:01.55TecnoBratmmo-cham is down :(
18:01.55Bibi`ouFbut mmo-champion is down afaiK.
18:01.57Bibi`ouF:/
18:02.12vhaarr"afaik", aren't you like the editor?
18:02.22Bibi`ouFyes, but not the sysadmin
18:02.27Bibi`ouF^^
18:02.28Amadeohahah
18:05.09Fisker-so gold farmer site Bibi`ouF?
18:05.37deltronErr http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main linux-image-2.6.20-14-386 2.6.20-14.23 403 Forbidden [IP: 91.189.89.8 80]
18:05.41deltronerr wtf
18:06.20Fisker-try chaning to ftp
18:06.25deltronyeah kinda weird
18:06.32evltorrents are the future man!
18:06.33Fisker-their http sources suck fucking ass
18:06.34evlit's web 2.0!
18:06.42Fisker-gtfo evl
18:07.08evlI'm getting a shitload of errors with the latest PitBull
18:07.09evlwtb stable
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18:08.12trhcool.. omnicc works for the new duration on targets
18:08.24deltronbrb lunch
18:08.40evl<Rymek> mage polymorph no longer heals on PTR
18:08.42evlbest bug ever?
18:08.43evlyes plz
18:09.04mexicaanWhere can i find Ace2 addon compilations?
18:09.47Sarozthank fuck they fixed FD in 2.1 in terms of unit frames etc
18:10.10TecnoBratno shit Saroz
18:11.03Gnarfozomg with the paladin nerf, I seriously consider leveling my first main warlock the last few levels up to 70, now that I know t6 looks like... THIS: http://worldofraids.free.fr/news-patch/full-t6/warlock-t6.jpg
18:11.35Sarozyea, I got nerfed :(
18:11.38Sarozand my T6 is meh
18:11.41Gnarfozyea
18:11.42Gnarfoz:\
18:11.51TecnoBratSaroz, your a paladin too?
18:11.52GnarfozI hope they reverse that holy nerf before going live
18:11.56TecnoBratyou're
18:12.06Sarozye
18:12.09GnarfozI'm just 55, but with that outlook, I might just as well stay prot and tank some shit
18:12.12Sarozindeed Gnarfoz
18:12.15Gnarfozinstead of going holy at 70
18:12.17Sarozlol, I have two paladins
18:12.18Sarozffs
18:12.20TecnoBratYea .. I could feel the shadow priest nerf coming though.
18:12.30TecnoBratNo more mana when full health
18:12.35TecnoBratThat was OP ..
18:12.35Sarozyea
18:12.36Gnarfozyeah :<
18:12.37Sarozthats fine though
18:12.41Sarozmy illumination
18:12.42SarozMAN
18:12.42TecnoBratYea
18:12.47Sarozdont make that go live
18:12.47Gnarfoznot really a nerf to paladins directly, but man... illumination
18:13.00TecnoBratYea .. I'm agreed with that
18:13.00Sarozfuck SA
18:13.13TecnoBratI honestly dont know how the original SA went live in the first place
18:13.19Saroztrue
18:13.21TecnoBratit should never have given mana from overheals
18:13.24Sarozhardly use it anyway
18:13.31SarozI mean, shadow priests
18:13.34Sarozor get overhealed
18:13.35Sarozso meh
18:13.35TecnoBratnever group with a shadow priest?
18:13.40Sarozgive illumination
18:13.41Sarozhardly ever
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18:14.48Gnarfozdamn whats up now
18:14.54GnarfozI err
18:14.59Gnarfozsplit this channel from my main xchat window
18:15.01Gnarfozaccidentally
18:15.16GnarfozI want it back inside the main one :<
18:15.30Gnarfozah -.- found it ^^
18:15.45Sarozhah
18:15.59nymbiaanyone thrown together anything cool for the new profiling stuff yet?
18:16.17trhauto dismount is seriously dangerous
18:16.38Sarozdont think so nymbia
18:19.04Gnarfoztrh: reading the patch notes on the bus home from work earlier, that's the one thing I thought "are they serious? who's gonna enable that" about :D
18:19.13xyui'm not too scared actually
18:19.19xyui'll still be a serious healer
18:19.26trhGnarfoz: it's enabled by default.. stupid thing
18:19.29nymbiahrmm..  how about mirrors for the US PTR patch, then?  i'm stuck at 99% it seems
18:19.31Gnarfozergh
18:19.32Gnarfoz:D
18:19.45GnarfozI can picture many a splattered corpse
18:19.58trhGnarfoz: and i accidently pressed my enable trinkets and abilities macro... button 'c'
18:20.01xyufarm pots
18:20.40Gnarfozv for mounting, c for char screen, b for consecration ... lot's of keys right around there to touch in the wrong moment
18:21.05trhi got mount on my mouse button above the scroll wheel =)
18:21.07xyuI use shift a lot
18:21.13chuckgHmm no experience/repbar for pitbull yet?
18:21.32trhGnarfoz: and replaces char screen with 'k', so 'c' a key near asdw is free
18:21.37xyui need someone who uses /stopcasting macroes w/ clique to show me how it's done :(
18:21.47GnarfozI got a mouse button there too, but it's not easily reachable in 'lazy hand position', so I don't bind anything to it
18:22.04Gnarfoztrh: got k for nameplates (moved them from v to there ^^)
18:22.06xyui've tried binding to it. but it's that scroll button yanno?
18:22.11xyuand nothing ever binds to it
18:22.12trhGnarfoz: hehe
18:22.18Gnarfozit's not a scroll button inside wow
18:22.23xyuis for me
18:22.26xyuit'll zoom in and out
18:22.29Gnarfozat least if you unbind it in the scroll panel :>
18:22.33Gnarfozerr
18:22.34Gnarfozcontrol panel
18:22.39Gnarfozyou confuse me with your scrolling
18:22.39Gnarfoz;P
18:22.41xyui have o_O  
18:23.00Gnarfozthat's weird then
18:23.04Arrowmasterrofl http://worldofraids.free.fr/news-patch/full-t6/warlock2-t6.jpg
18:23.04xyuI'll try it again, i'd really like those keys available.
18:23.09xyuDo you have logitech by any chance?
18:23.13GnarfozArrowmaster: that's plain crazy, right? ^^
18:23.29Gnarfozwith the pala nerf, I can just about picture me resurrecting my old warlock main JUST to get that set xD
18:23.32trhGnarfoz: i have the cruise up and down bound to page up and page down keys, very handy in browser and wow
18:23.35Gnarfozxyu: yes, mx518
18:23.39nuoHepArrowmaster, the bestpart isthat wingsare animated
18:23.46Gnarfozshit no xD
18:23.51xyui have 510.  i'lll try the settings again
18:23.52GnarfozI've gotta install PTR to see that :D
18:23.54trhgot a mx 510 ^^
18:23.56trhvery happy with it
18:24.02Arrowmasteromg i wonder what it looks like on orc warlocks
18:24.04Gnarfozxyu: ah, I see... trh pointed the important thing out
18:24.07trhGnarfoz: "world server is down" =)
18:24.13Gnarfozyou've got to bind the buttons to something else
18:24.17Gnarfozi've got [ and ] on there
18:24.22xyuohh ok
18:24.23GnarfozI keep forgetting that ^^
18:24.23xyuthanks
18:24.33shieldbGnarfoz, I don't think the pally nerf is really that bad with respect to healing. It just sounds to me like pallies might actually have to chug a potion from time to time, and we won't be replacing all our priests with pallies in raids when possible
18:24.37Arrowmasterchuckg: go get t6 shoulders i want to see what it looks like on an orc
18:24.48trhif you don't rebind them to other keys they act as a mouse wheel up and a mouse wheel down event
18:24.50chuckgHaha.
18:24.54kenlyrici guess we all know what that daily quest thing was :)
18:24.54chuckgI'll get right on it.
18:24.55trhunder linux you have to get a extra-program too
18:25.03Gnarfozchuckg: screenshots or it didn't happen!
18:25.04xyuer wait?  i can't make custom binds in my mouse menu.  
18:25.12GnarfozI guess he kind of implied that, anyway :D
18:25.15nuoHepArrowmaster, the wings are a helm actually
18:25.17trhxyu: you gotta install logitech setpoint
18:25.17xyuit says "Select the function you want for your device button : 7
18:25.24Arrowmasteroh
18:25.31trhxyu: get a newer version, select "keystroke" there
18:25.35TecnoBratwonder if Pendant of the Violet Eye will actually be good now
18:25.36xyuoh
18:25.39xyukk trh thanks
18:25.50NeoTronso it seems they did change the ability to NR-tank Hydross
18:25.50chuckgWhat's the site that does diffs of framexml's?
18:25.54chuckgBy version?
18:25.57chuckgsomething.wowinterface.com
18:25.59NeoTronby adding another doubling to the damage up to 500%
18:26.00Arrowmasterwdn
18:26.10chuckgThanks.
18:26.39shieldbNeoTron, even without the 500% stack I'd imagine trying to buff a tank up to be able to live through 250% with the elixir changes would be extremely tough
18:26.54NeoTronah that is true
18:27.10xyutrh: could you find a link for me?  I can't find setpoint software for the mx510.  Is it ok if i use the mx1000's software?
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18:27.22trhxyu: no, do you use windows vista?
18:27.34xyuno, well i have dual boot
18:27.37xyuso i *could*
18:27.43trhxyu: under windows xp its called differently
18:27.44xyubut generally no
18:27.48xyuoh
18:28.02xyuAdvanced Settings Utility for MouseWare 9.76 and above ?
18:28.08trhxyu: and under vista you have to use setpoint, even though it officialy doesnt work for 510 you just use the 518 version and it works fine with 510
18:28.11Gnarfozhuh? it's setpoint for xp, too
18:28.13Arrowmasterso ive already seen somebody flying around shattrath with a netherdrake
18:28.16trhxyu: ya, moueware
18:28.21trhGnarfoz: only for mx 518
18:28.23Gnarfozah
18:28.27Gnarfozthat may of course be
18:28.29NeoTronArrowmaster: that fast?
18:28.32NeoTronArrowmaster: on ptr?
18:28.35Arrowmasteryeah on ptr
18:28.41NeoTronthat is my first goal come 2.1
18:28.54NeoTronseems a bit easy if it can be done this fast though
18:28.57xyuhow's it done?
18:28.58NeoTronor rather easier than I expected
18:29.14Arrowmasterthat or the person was a gm or something
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18:29.30nuoHepArrowmaster, its a quest thing. you getan itemthat transform you to an orc on a netherdrake
18:29.32NeoTronwhen did ptr come up?
18:29.43NeoTronnuoHep: oh
18:29.57shieldbyesterday / last night
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18:31.46chuckg<PROTECTED>
18:31.47chuckgHOLY FUCK
18:31.48chuckgWOOT
18:31.54trhthe new mend pet hot is sweet
18:31.58chuckgYou can get DOT information now on any unit with an unitid!
18:31.59Arrowmastersweet
18:32.21Gnarfozbut you still can't see if it's your debuff, right?
18:32.22Arrowmasteryeah i noticed i could see what looked like a cooldown spinner on other peoples buffs on PTR
18:32.22trhchuckg: kinda like it should have been for years?
18:32.27chuckgYea, kinda :|
18:32.37chuckgDoesn't fix a *ton* of shit.
18:32.43chuckgBut it does fix dotting multiple mobs.
18:32.50Arrowmasterneed a new warlock dot timer written from the ground up now
18:32.57kenlyrictrh: yeah, one of the things I like about my draenei is the HoT... I use it on my pet a lot.
18:32.59Arrowmasterno hacks of old ones
18:33.00chuckgI'm just going to fix SpellWatch.
18:33.04chuckgHave you tried that out?
18:33.19xyutrh: i still can't find the software for xp. ; ;
18:33.20nuoHepit returns duration and timeLeft only for your own buffs/debuffs
18:33.24trhxyu: one moment
18:33.32nuoHepso you can check whatsyours
18:33.32xyuhttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1792,contentid=8749,OSID=1,softwareid=8026
18:33.33xyuits not this
18:33.40xyubecause it says i already have it installed.
18:34.13Gnarfozah, I won't bother getting on PTR right now
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18:34.24Gnarfozfriday evening is kind of a bad time to try that out
18:34.29kenlyricdon't, it just went kaboom.
18:34.33kenlyriccome back monday morning :)
18:34.37trhxyu: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/DE/EN,crid=1792,contentid=8027,osid=1
18:34.39Arrowmasterhttp://worldofraids.free.fr/news-patch/weaps-shields/screenshot_223.jpg this better be a caster weapon
18:34.44Gnarfozknow the drill, it's been like that every PTR :D
18:35.05xyuyeah that's what i just linked.  says i already have it intalled.
18:35.11Gnarfozbut someone highlight me when orc warlock t6 helm graphics show up in here ;lD
18:35.13xyuthat's for version 9.80 right?
18:35.23ArrowmasterGnarfoz: done
18:35.28Arrowmasterive already pasted them
18:35.52trhxyu: ya, 9.80 should work with xp32
18:36.00Gnarfozorc? Oo
18:36.08Arrowmasteroh orc no
18:36.15Gnarfozyeah =D
18:36.20Gnarfozah but actually
18:36.26Gnarfozwe got told it's a helm anyway
18:36.27trhorc smash! ... uh shiny! :)
18:36.34Arrowmasteryeah
18:36.39Gnarfozso no point waiting for how it looks on orcs if it's not shoulders anyway
18:36.40Arrowmasterif it was shoulders it would be sweet
18:36.44xyutrh: it works just fine.  but i don't see an option to set my "cruise up, cruise down" keys to any button i want.
18:36.52ckknighthey all
18:36.54xyujust a drop down menu w/ preset stuff
18:36.56GnarfozI like how the wings are 3 times the size of a gnome
18:37.04trhxyu: ya, in the preset stuff theres 'keystroke'
18:37.09xyuohh
18:37.20xyuthat'll do it, thanks ^^
18:37.24trhhehe
18:37.26Arrowmasterif it was shoulders they would probably be so big on an orc you could see them from the prep area in an arena and afk out ahead of time
18:37.30trhpebkac solved :P
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18:38.41Arrowmasterlol wtf http://worldofraids.free.fr/news-patch/weaps-shields/screenshot_216.jpg
18:39.30nymbiaupgraded zergling look? O.o
18:40.54Amadeodreadlocks
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18:41.12xyuhttp://worldofraids.free.fr/news-patch/netherwing_quest.jpg
18:41.21Arrowmastersome of these bows look really sweet
18:41.48AmadeoDaily?
18:42.02Amadeois it a rep grind that you can only do once per day?
18:42.22kenlyricwhen I accepted the quests, I couldn't accept both the mining and herbalism ones.
18:42.27kenlyricI wonder if I'll be able to do both....\
18:43.00kenlyricthe mining one isn't in that screenshot.
18:43.09kenlyricnethercite ore
18:43.37trhkenlyric: i could try.. if i ever get to stay in game longer than 2 minutes before the world server is down ;)
18:44.32xyuyeah i hpe we can
18:44.41xyui'm also herb/miner
18:44.49Arrowmasterthats a sheild? cool! http://worldofraids.free.fr/news-patch/weaps-shields/screenshot_192.jpg
18:45.25Amadeoit's a sapped girls can't say no shield
18:48.22deltronlol
18:48.44xyucan someone help me get /stopcasting macro to work w/ clique ^^
18:49.03mjcxyu: ask clad|work
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18:49.44xyumjc: will do, thanks.  If anyone else has it going feel free ;D
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18:50.20moonsorrowArrowmaster: it's not a shield
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18:51.47vhaarrArrowmaster: That's the priest t6 shoulder.
18:52.11Arrowmasterah, its under the weaps-shields folder on wor
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18:52.21Heri1lock t6 = omglol
18:52.28moonsorrowhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/priest_tier6.jpg
18:52.55NeoTronif that is all theer is (once per day repeatable quest) that is retarded
18:52.57moonsorrowlock t6 is nice, but gnome lock t6 is just funny :D http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/t6_gn_lo.jpg
18:53.22Arrowmasteri think thats part of the animation
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18:53.31Arrowmasterno way would it always be like that
18:53.37moonsorrowno not always
18:55.06CIA-1103saroz * r32548 10sRaidFrames/ (localization.enUS.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: Fix localization
18:57.21xyuwoot i figured out how to get it to work w/ clique
18:57.46xyunow ifi could just get rapidcasting to adjust my castbar on the player frame.  currently it works fine on my target frame. ; ;
18:57.49xyuin pitbull
19:02.58kenlyricso... the patch notes are this big.
19:03.07kenlyriccan you imagine how massive the undocuments changes will be?
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19:04.37nymbialol
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19:04.48nymbialooked like they tried to touch on most stuff
19:04.48the_squidanyone got a link for patch notes?
19:04.58nymbiathe undocumented changes thread is still pretty short
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19:05.16nymbiathe_squid: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94203802&sid=1
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19:05.28the_squidnymbia, thanks
19:06.18vhaarrnymbia: what thread?
19:06.59nymbiavhaarr: that's just the notes
19:07.20chuckghttp://worldofraids.free.fr/news-patch/full-t6/warlock2-t6.jpg
19:07.21chuckgHAHAHA
19:07.23chuckgWhat the FUCK.
19:07.27chuckgThey can't be serious.
19:07.31deltronman kaliban's lootlink got so much better
19:07.36vhaarrnymbia: "<nymbia> the undocumented changes thread is still pretty short", what thread?
19:07.42nymbiaoh
19:07.44nymbiasec
19:07.50deltronthere's a thread on wowinsider.com
19:08.00nymbiavhaarr: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94204815&sid=1
19:09.24Sparhawkepolymorph no longer heals a target? lol
19:09.27nuoHepchuckg, http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6195/lockt6ow6.gif
19:09.46chuckgHoly fuck.
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19:09.48chuckgI'll never buy that.
19:09.49chuckgEver.
19:10.01NeoTronwait so you need herbalism and mining for some of the netherwing quests?
19:10.05chuckgI would stick to the old yellow turban over that.
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19:10.07CIA-11cyCircled:
19:10.07CIA-11-- Only apply AutoBar skin if it is loaded.
19:10.17trhyou can only get one gathering quest for profession by day
19:10.18NeoTronthat's entirely unfair unless they are multially exclusive with non-herb/mining or you don't need the skill?
19:10.30nymbiayou dont need them
19:10.32NeoTronis there one if you don't have herb/mining?
19:10.40nymbiathey give alternate quests (which may be less camped)
19:10.41trhtheres a gather quest too
19:10.44NeoTronok
19:10.53NeoTronphew
19:10.53nymbiabut they arent required by any means
19:10.55NeoTronwell
19:11.01NeoTronI'm dedicated to this mount
19:11.06chuckgRest assured, any quest for a netherwing mount will be camped.
19:11.09NeoTronit'll be my main task when not raiding or preparing for raids :)
19:11.12chuckgI have no doubt in my mind.
19:11.17NeoTronremember you DO need epic flyin skill
19:11.21kenlyricyeah, there's one for herbing, one for mining, and one that's just a regular anyone can gather skill.
19:11.23trhits not faster than the usual mount, so it's low priority
19:11.24NeoTronthat limits it some
19:11.24nymbiai'll be all over the ray imo
19:11.35AmadeoYou have to PvP to get the fastest mount in game
19:11.37kenlyricthe question is, if i have herbing and mining, can I do all three  per day and triple my output.
19:11.38NeoTronmany will tire fast
19:11.49trhkenlyric: no, only 2
19:12.04vhaarrnymbia: thanks
19:12.10trhkenlyric: after i took the herba quest i couldnt take the mining quest
19:12.11kenlyrictrh: oh, I missed before where you had tried it.
19:12.12NeoTrontrh: so it IS required to be herbing/mining for best output?
19:12.16kenlyricbooerns!
19:12.24trhNeoTron: didn't looked at the other quests
19:12.30trhNeoTron: i think there's one for every profession
19:12.44chuckgSomeone needs to write a new chronometer/spellwatch framework.
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19:12.50chuckgI'm looking at you nymbia.
19:13.00NeoTrontrh: except I'm no gatherer
19:13.21trhNeoTron: im gonna look again
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19:13.39NeoTronI might just transfer and check myself
19:13.49chuckgWorld server was down last I looked.
19:13.54NeoTronnot at home
19:13.57NeoTronso that doesn't affect me
19:13.58NeoTronnow
19:14.05kenlyricwhen one server goes down, do they both?
19:14.33nymbia~flee
19:14.46purlACTION runs away screaming
19:14.48trhouch.. hellfire fortifications is now DAILY pvp
19:14.57trhget your thrallmar / honor hold marks NOW
19:15.11Heri1DAILY?
19:15.17trhit says so in the quest log
19:15.24trh"(Daily PvP)"
19:15.29AmadeoYes
19:15.31trhso i guess it's only completable once a day?
19:15.31Heri1in the next patch?
19:15.35Heri1you can only do it once?
19:15.41AmadeoRight, once a day
19:15.43shieldbdaily quests = once a day
19:15.49shieldband you can only do 10 'daily' quests in a day
19:15.52Heri1you still get marks from killing peeps? o.O
19:15.58deltronthat sucks
19:15.59AmadeoI imagine so
19:16.12ArrowmasterNew types of quest: daily quests. Repeatable but can only be done once per day. Max of 10 daily quests per day. Hellfire fortifications is now a daily quest
19:16.15kenlyricdoesn't that quest reward like five reptuation?
19:16.19AmadeoBlizzard controlled advancement, that's to make you pay more money
19:16.21kenlyricor 25 or some ungodly small amount?
19:17.08Heriothe mark rewards aren't very good anyhow :O
19:17.21trhHerio: 5 marks = token for more reputation
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19:17.51Arrowmasteri still need to get exalted with thrallmar
19:17.53Heriono...
19:18.18Herioit's a consumable for a % increase to rep gained
19:18.57Herioit's unlikely that it will decrease the # of instance runs to get exalted by 1, even
19:19.17Heriowait...
19:19.22Herioit's 25% for rep =P
19:19.29shieldbisn't it a 50% rep increase for the duration or something?
19:19.30Heriothought it was 5% for both
19:19.38Arrowmaster25% for rep
19:19.41Heriohttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=24520
19:19.43Herioyeah
19:19.48Arrowmastermakes stuff that gives 12 rep give 15
19:20.09Arrowmastermore usefull in heroics i bet since i got almost 3k from a bloodfurnace run
19:20.10Herio2500 a run instead of 2000
19:20.43Herioit's a shame you lose the buff if you die
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19:24.23the_squid"<Arrowmaster> New types of quest: daily quests. Repeatable but can only be done once per day. Max of 10 daily quests per day. Hellfire fortifications is now a daily quest"
19:24.25the_squidNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
19:24.59nymbiayou do it more than 10 times a day?
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19:25.19Herio,,,
19:25.23HerioONCE PER DAY
19:25.36HerioTOTAL daily quests: 10 per day
19:25.42the_squidhold on
19:25.50the_squidlet me make sure my disgust was justified
19:26.02the_squidi can only do Hellfire Fortifications once a day
19:26.08kenlyriccorrect.
19:26.09Herioyes
19:26.12the_squidNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
19:26.47kenlyricblizzard apparently didn't like people like me, doing that quest over and over without any actual pvp :)
19:26.54Amadeohaha
19:27.01kenlyric(ok, I did it twice, one day, and never again)
19:27.10AmadeoThis 2.1 patch totally changes the game...it's not WoW anymore :P
19:27.23kenlyricit hasn't been wow for a while.
19:27.25nymbiajust like 2.0 did
19:27.43AmadeoI dunno, I think 2.0 was supposed to...but it didn't do much
19:27.57AmadeoThey claimed no 2 shotting and such, because of higher stamina...never happened
19:28.42Amadeobut who thought they'd mess with trinkets? I remember the original uproar when they added them to the game in the first place
19:28.51AmadeoPvP, that is
19:28.57the_squid"An engineering recipe to make "Fused Wiring" can be found in both Everlook and Shattrath. "
19:29.15hyperChipmunkyea that makes me happy
19:29.22AmadeoThere already is one
19:29.26Amadeo"Target Dummy" :P
19:29.30the_squidlol :P
19:29.41hyperChipmunkyea, but that's like 1 in 10 chance, and it's a pain to make
19:29.51the_squid""Seaforium" now opens locked chests as well as locked doors. "
19:29.55the_squidi just creamed myself.
19:29.56Amadeoyeah
19:30.33AmadeoDo you still PvP, hyperChipmunk?
19:30.36kenlyricisn't seaforium the one that can be used by anyone?
19:30.36the_squidthis is a kind of dramatic patch...
19:30.52Stephmw<tada> new game!
19:30.57hyperChipmunkno, that's ezthro
19:31.22hyperChipmunkAmadeo: not as much
19:31.27Amadeo:(
19:31.34AmadeoYou know any good level 70 Hunter PvP vids? I haven't really seen any
19:31.45hyperChipmunkpvp vids?
19:31.58the_squidwe call good hunter PVP vids "alterac valley"
19:32.03pub^lol
19:32.34kenlyrichunter.. pvp?
19:32.41kenlyricthere's been no such thing since 2.0
19:32.54kenlyricnext thing you'll want a holy priest pve vid.
19:33.04the_squidthat I can provide :P
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19:33.12kenlyriclies
19:33.18the_squidyou've never seen someone thrash flash heal and renew this well!
19:33.19hyperChipmunki could have made a video back when i did pvp
19:33.40kenlyricI hear the SSC guilds bring a holy priest so he can spirit buff....
19:33.44xyuand included all the cliche camera angles and fast music?
19:33.51xyuand random cuts of tupacs face?
19:33.51hyperChipmunkyou could watch me sit at the stables with my map open, typing orders for 10 minutes
19:34.07hyperChipmunkholy priests don't spirit buff though =x
19:34.13steino_disc priests do
19:34.14kenlyricthe_squid: sure I have. they're called "paladin" and "druid"
19:34.15steino_:)
19:34.36xyuhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1393677960885570768&q=my+first+pvp
19:34.43kenlyricwell, unless they're a goober holy priest with more than 40 talents in holy.
19:34.44xyuaweesome pvp vid like omg!
19:34.48xyuYou must make one
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19:34.57chuckgArrowmaster I win, http://www.whattehfeck.com/orcwings.mpg
19:35.03kenlyric21/40 is a very common holy spec.
19:35.39hyperChipmunki really stopped pvping when they made bg's xserver
19:35.52JoshBorkeso why would my UpdateFrame function be called with a frame that doesn't have a unit?
19:36.02hyperChipmunkwe had good competitive matches prior
19:36.04AdysSmall question
19:36.07kergothchapstick FTL.  for the second time i accidentally washed my clothes with chapstick in the pocket, wonderful oily/waxy spots all over the clothes that not even industrial cleaner gets out
19:36.19Heriolol
19:36.21AdysIs the Heroic/Normal dungeon default difficulty mode stored clientside or serverside?
19:36.28hyperChipmunkcross-server was just steamrolling everyone, and got boring real fast
19:36.46hyperChipmunkit's even worse now
19:36.51kenlyrickergoth, yeah, that sucks.
19:36.54hyperChipmunkthey're just free-for-alls
19:37.10hyperChipmunknobody even makes an attempt at strategy anymore
19:37.50kenlyricor, you get AV, where horde and alliancer rarely even skirmish :)
19:38.30Heriopve race lol
19:39.50deltronAV is so incredibly dull
19:39.56deltronwhich is why I fish
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19:40.03deltronnobody freaking fights anymore
19:40.07Heriogod of war 2 looks ass ugly
19:40.18Heriocan't imagine what the first one must have looked like :O
19:40.36deltronehhh
19:40.54deltronthat game looked awesome
19:40.57deltronnever played 2
19:41.08Heriowell two looks like they crap
19:41.23JoshBorkeckknight: ping
19:41.29ckknightJoshBorke: pong
19:41.30Herio*crapped on the something
19:41.31deltronit's a playstation2 game
19:41.42Herio:O
19:41.42JoshBorkefor wacky unit frames, will they have frame.unit defined?
19:41.48ckknightno
19:41.50Heriostill looks better then gears of war!
19:41.56ckknightnothing will have .unit defined
19:41.56JoshBorkeok
19:42.00ckknightthey will have :GetUnit() defined
19:42.03kenlyricdeltron: can't fish in AV anymore :)
19:42.16deltronkenlyric: in PTR :(
19:42.19deltronerr :)
19:42.19JoshBorkehm, ok
19:42.24deltronyou can still
19:42.48JoshBorkeso to check for a wacky unit i need to do:  if (IsWackyUnit[frame:GetUnit()]) ?
19:43.10mjcwacky?
19:44.41the_squidcant fish in AV?
19:44.45the_squiddamn!
19:45.18ckknightJoshBorke: yea, essentially
19:45.19Fisker-anyone know shit about aran?
19:45.38deltronFisker-: you do not move in the flame wreath
19:45.54deltronFisker-: http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/
19:45.57JoshBorkeckknight: and for OnUpdateFrame, unit == frame:GetUnit() ?
19:46.00Aii|work"I will not move when flame wreath is cast or the raid blows up."
19:46.09ckknightyes, JoshBorke
19:46.17JoshBorkeok
19:47.05Amadeowhoa, there's ckknight
19:47.06kenlyricalso, blizzard is like jason vorhees. It doesn't matter how slow it moves. You cannot outrun it.
19:47.56ckknightAmadeo: ?
19:48.14nymbiayou're just that stealthy ckknight
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19:48.47CIA-11PitBull_CombatFader:
19:48.47CIA-11- use unit directly, unit == frame:GetUnit()
19:48.49AmadeoYeah, I thought he was a Rogue
19:48.54AmadeoWith 5/5 MoD
19:49.15the_squid"Party members will no longer see a hunter who is feigning death as actually dead. "
19:49.19the_squidthere goes all the appeal for hunters
19:49.35Stephmwbwahahaha
19:49.43hyperChipmunkand here comes all the heals we miss
19:52.04CIA-1103nymbia * r32551 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
19:52.05CIA-11Manufac:
19:52.05CIA-11- Use the new tradeskill recipe links in when linking a whole recipe in 2.1
19:52.42Fisker-of course deltron
19:52.47Fisker-Does blessing of freedom work on blizzard?
19:54.24AmadeoYes, but the spell is called Warhammer!
19:56.33chuckgWhat's that Nymbia?
19:56.39chuckgNot that it matters, cgCrafty is builtin  now :(
19:57.02chuckgGuess I could still have it link materials :|
19:58.01the_squid"New Tips of the day have been added."
19:58.49xyu`clad|work: you around at all? ^^
19:59.01Stephmw... Blizz devs & management's last design meeting: http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasmatika/447826052/
20:00.42Stephmwor do you think maybe they had more than that to drink?
20:01.08deltronhow do you know it's from them?
20:01.09deltronheh
20:01.28Stephmwwellll
20:01.28Fisker-ah lame
20:01.46Stephmwdeltron: well, obviously, it's merely an example
20:01.54Fisker-blessing of freedom just removes blizzard but doesn't make you immune to the next tick
20:01.56Stephmwdeltron: but it's either booze or drugs
20:02.24Stephmwdeltron: god knows, every big patch seems to be rather crazy
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20:03.55NeoTronso the skettis mount is ALSO an epic mount
20:04.02NeoTronnow I have to decide which one is coolest
20:04.04deltronhmm
20:04.08deltronskettis mount eh?
20:04.11NeoTronnetherwing or ray
20:04.16deltronI still want a talbuk
20:04.17NeoTronwell skyguard
20:04.27sbuhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/netherwing_quest.jpg <--
20:04.27NeoTronit is given from the skettis-related quests
20:04.29sbumeehh
20:04.33sbuwtf is 'daily' :/
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20:04.38NeoTrononce per day
20:04.42sbuerr yep
20:04.45kenlyricreally, do we have to explain that?
20:04.49sbubut daily quest?
20:04.51sbuwtf?
20:04.53NeoTronand at most 10 daily quests in  day btw
20:05.11Aii|workAm I the only one laughing at the change to Circle of Healing?
20:05.23sbuAiiane: dont know - whats wrong with it?
20:05.38Aiianenot so much "wrong", as the fact that it was changed by almost nothing
20:05.53Aiianethe max rank gained 25 extra base healing
20:05.55Aiiane25.
20:05.59the_squidfuck I'm glad i didn't spec into that.
20:06.09Aiianei never did. lol
20:06.19Aiianeit was crap before, it's still crap now
20:06.52StephmwGrrr... spammers are now spreading their spam over 3 tells
20:07.44kenlyricAiiane: if I cared at all about that talent, I might laugh.
20:07.53kenlyricbut as long as it competes with divine spirit, it will never be worth it.
20:08.10AiianeI'm deep holy, but still don't have CoH.
20:08.12Aenslaedis pitbull near 1.0 status yet?
20:08.21hyperChipmunkno
20:08.34AiianeMultiple DS buffers in a raid is redundant, and the increased coefficient for FH/GH is nice.
20:08.57Stephmwinteresting... just looted Greater Arcane Resistance... I didn't realise there were BoP enchanting formulas...
20:09.02kenlyricwait, you have more than one priest in your raids? How did you manage this?
20:09.19kenlyricshort on pallies?
20:09.39Lysitheamore than one priest with DS*
20:09.46Aiianekenlyric: I play horde. Still not exactly overflowing with them.
20:09.58xyu`really my server is
20:10.05xyu`i think we have more pally than alliance :P
20:10.12Aiianexyu: level 70, and geared out?
20:10.23kenlyricwell, even if we have more than one, I"m always going to be the DS priest :)
20:10.25xyu`honostly, yes. o_O  
20:10.30kenlyricspirit whore, since 2005.
20:10.35Aiianewhat server, xyu?
20:10.40xyu`sargeras
20:10.44Aiianeah
20:10.46Aiianemal'ganis here
20:10.49kenlyricI've been known to dance naked for a mistletoe buff.
20:10.52kenlyricand that was on my male toon.
20:11.06Megalon:C
20:11.10xyu`i'm like the worst geared pally i know  :(
20:11.11xyu`makes me sad
20:11.18Aiianelol
20:11.20xyu`i should join my RL friends guild and join a raiding guild  but i'm not mean
20:11.25xyu`er join  = quit
20:11.36Aiianequit a raiding guild? :P
20:11.39xyu`and i'm kind of done w/ raiding for now.  naxx burned me out.
20:12.02Aiianeall in all this patch seems rather meh for priests
20:12.11Aiianethe changes to binding heal are nice, i might actually use it now
20:12.15Aiianebut it's still fairly situational
20:12.26Aiianeaside from that, i can't really see much worth talking of
20:14.42TecnoBratthe paladin + shadow priest nerf? :P
20:14.48Stephmwkenlyric: LOL
20:14.57AmadeoWas the Shadow Priest nerf really that big?
20:15.48kovi5% less damage
20:15.52kovithat's it pretty much
20:16.08Gagorian5% less damage for spriests and warlocks!
20:16.08TecnoBratAmadeo, yes ... paladins now get no mana from VE heals
20:16.08Aiiane5% less damage for them, 5% less damage for every other shadow damage dealer
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20:16.26kenlyricthat shadow priest nerf is big if you take into account the many, many nerfs it builds upon.
20:16.26TecnoBratSo the shadow priest + paladin combo is useless now, except for VT mana
20:16.41Antiarc|Work..."useless" is a little dramatic.
20:16.53NeoTronmuch less useful less
20:16.59Antiarc|WorkYes, it's much less useful.
20:17.03Antiarc|WorkBut it's far from useless.
20:17.05AmadeoI'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!  Now that's a little dramatic ;)
20:17.08NeoTronuseful for pally tanking
20:17.14TecnoBratYou wont stack 4 paladins in a group with a shadow priest now
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20:17.21chuckgNever did.
20:17.21Antiarc|WorkIn fact, I'd argue that it's more important now, because paladins don't have infinite mana cheat codes anymore ;)
20:17.23chuckgThat is moronic.
20:17.32TecnoBrathaha it sure as hell isnt moronic
20:17.32AiianeTBH
20:17.35Antiarc|WorkEveryone knows you stack four warlocks with a shadow priest.
20:17.36the_squidshadow word death cooldown 12 seconds boooo
20:17.43AiianeI can't really sympathize with pallies in regards to illuminatioin
20:17.49Aiiane*illumination
20:17.50NeoTronyou have to admit that a paladin having full mana at the end of a raid boss fight and still topping healing meters is a bit extreme
20:18.44TecnoBratAntiarc, uhh why? its a raid wide buff.
20:18.44AmadeoAiiane: I can't either
20:18.44NightHawkTheSaneoh hell, are you people still whinging about spriests and pallies?
20:18.44Aiianeyou stack warlocks with an SP so the warlocks have infinite mana ;)
20:18.44Antiarc|WorkTecnoBrat: HP/MP regen. Warlock DPS is most severely impacted by having to stop shadowbolting to cut themselves.
20:18.44AmadeoEmo Warlocks?
20:18.47AiianeIndeed.
20:18.47TecnoBratYou guys aparantly dont know how much mana a paladin used to get from VE
20:18.47NeoTron"cut themselves" lol
20:18.49NightHawkTheSaneall warlocks are emo. :P
20:18.55AiianeOh, we do, Tecno
20:19.13Arrowmasteri already have infinite mana with dark pact and 3/3 shadoweave
20:19.44TecnoBratThen you would know if you take 4 paladins and a shadow priest, all 4 paladins can spam and never get below 99%. So its not moronic at all to do.
20:19.59AmadeoSeems unbalanced :P
20:20.01Antiarc|WorkTecnoBrat: And now you see why they nerfed it :P
20:20.06TecnoBratIt definately is.
20:20.08TecnoBratOh, I know.
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20:20.18TecnoBratI totally understand why it was nerfed :P
20:20.41kovii think your raid is better off if you stick the shadowpriest with the mages/locks, anyway
20:20.42Aiianeoh, the other thing that has me literally rolling on the floor at blizz
20:20.44NeoTronI wish you could shift-click a mount to see how it looks like
20:21.06Aiiane"Tradeskill combines whiich had a cooldown of over 24 hours have had their cooldowns reduced by 1 hour."
20:21.14NeoTronAiiane: that is .. yeah
20:21.16AiianeSo my cloth xmutes now have 3day23hr cooldowns?
20:21.19AiianeUm... thanks?
20:21.21NeoTronbut
20:21.31NeoTronit makes sense
20:21.34Aiianesort of
20:21.40TecnoBratits means you can use them every 4 days. and not slowly push back your cooldown
20:21.40Aiianeit lets you pick a certain time to do it
20:21.40NeoTronnow you can do the transmutes before the raid every time
20:21.41NightHawkTheSaneIts a lot more important than it seems
20:21.42Aiianeaye
20:21.42TecnoBratand eventually you miss a day
20:21.46NeoTronrather than the transmute time slowly shifting
20:21.51Aiianeit's handy, but it's still annoying that it's FOUR DAYS
20:21.57NeoTronfor sure
20:22.01NightHawkTheSanethat's another issue entirely :)
20:22.09TecnoBratnow it *IS* 4 days
20:22.28TecnoBratinstead of 4 days + whatever time it take you to notice you have a xmute up, login, get your cloth, etc
20:22.44TecnoBratYou can easily make sure you use it every 4 days now :P
20:22.46nymbiaso i'm wondering why all these screenshots of t6 stuff is using like wowmodelviewer
20:22.53nymbiawhen they're perfectly valid to link
20:23.04NeoTronwarlock
20:23.06NeoTrondrool
20:23.13NeoTronwarlock wins. always
20:23.21trhthey wings probably allow them to fly
20:23.22Aiianeoh, and yeah
20:23.23NeoTronhonestly that was part of my decision to reroll as a lock - kickass armor sets
20:23.28trhblizzard loves that class
20:23.28Aiianethe "autodismount" feature
20:23.33Arrowmasternymbia: they are valid to link?
20:23.40NeoTronthe warlock set designer is probably cool :)
20:23.44Aiianeblizz apparently forgot that it's generally not in a player's best interest to autodismount off a FLYING mount
20:24.06trhAiiane: at least theres a option for it ^^
20:24.12NightHawkTheSaneAiiane: i'm 99% certain that's a cruel inside joke at blizzard. :D
20:24.18trhAiiane: but it owned me too
20:24.44Aiianeyeah, but i don't see the point of implementing something that 99% of all players will turn off
20:24.44nymbiaArrowmaster: yup. the itemids are in pt3 if you need em
20:24.44trhAiiane: its blizzard.. dont question there motives
20:24.44Aiianeheh
20:24.44NightHawkTheSanebecause they know a bunch of people will forget, and die horribly, and that makes them laugh.
20:24.46StephmwAiiane: you just need to find the angle that benefits alliance...
20:24.48NightHawkTheSaneseriously, that'd be enough for me
20:25.07TecnoBratthey track it, I'm sure
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20:25.09trhi think when the live realms go online, they'll autowatch players that mount
20:25.16TecnoBratthey have a graph on the wall, on a 50" LCD
20:25.18trhand look who uses a ability and falls down
20:25.21Aiianeanyone offhand happen to know the new values for runic spellthread?
20:25.27TecnoBrat"People who got autodismounted and killed from flying mounts"
20:25.32trhmaybe even record it to show it in a conference room and laugh about it
20:25.33TecnoBratYou know you would do it
20:25.43NeoTronI want to know how the riding nether ray looks like
20:25.45NeoTronso I can pick one
20:26.02NeoTronwait
20:26.05Stephmwtrh: [The Ground] needs to be added to the bestiary as an NPC
20:26.09NightHawkTheSaneriding nether ray?
20:26.10NeoTronthe auto-dismount works for flying mounts in-air?
20:26.16AiianeStephmw: easy - alliance have 4 classes that can avoid fall damage, horde only 3
20:26.18JoshBorkeNeoTron: yes
20:26.19AiianeNeoTron: yes
20:26.28JoshBorkeAiiane: what are the 4?
20:26.28NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: a little slow on the uptake? ;)
20:26.29NeoTronlol
20:26.38AiianeJoshBorke: druid, pally, priest, mage
20:26.50JoshBorkewhat doesn't horde have?
20:26.50trhStephmw: isn't the real enemy gravity?
20:26.52NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: and you not knowing what a riding nether ray is!
20:26.57Aiianeokay, sorry, *had :P
20:27.00Stephmwtrh: optional in wow anyway :)
20:27.04JoshBorke:-P
20:27.05NeoTronhttp://www.worldofraids.com/news/skyguard_rewards.png
20:27.07NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: touché, so fill me in :P
20:27.10trhwhich reminds me of: DAMN you gravity, you win again!
20:27.12NeoTronexalted with skyguard
20:27.15Antiarc|WorkHonestly, the invul pot changes piee me off
20:27.15vhaarrKemayo: Quixote needs patchin'
20:27.17Antiarc|Workpiss me off*
20:27.19NeoTronepic mount in 5 beautiful colors
20:27.27Antiarc|WorkBecause I used them to dismount 600 feet in the air.
20:27.28vhaarrAntiarc: indeed, and also the flask changes
20:27.31NeoTronexcept I have no clue how itl ooks :P
20:27.35Antiarc|WorkNow that they're a flat damage reduction, I can't do that anymore.
20:27.38NightHawkTheSaneiiiinteresting
20:27.40kergothwho's skyguard?
20:27.45vhaarrnew faction
20:27.48JoshBorkekergoth: guys wanting back skettis
20:27.49Aiianeenemies of arrakoa
20:27.50NeoTronthe faction for the skettis area in terrokar
20:27.52kergothahh
20:27.53kergothcool
20:28.01StephmwAiiane: what nerfed the 4th?
20:28.01Antiarc|WorkI guess I could use my parachute cloak, but honestly? Screw engineering.
20:28.04NightHawkTheSaneSEe, even I could figure that out. :P
20:28.05Antiarc|WorkI'm taking Herb or Mining
20:28.13NeoTronone reward is parachute like cloak :P
20:28.15Arrowmastertheres a new slowfall cloak
20:28.17Antiarc|WorkYeah, I saw that.
20:28.21sbuengineering ftw ;o
20:28.25AiianeStephmw: nah, just populations ;) more alliance pallies atm
20:28.26Arrowmasterdruid friend is playing with the cloak right now
20:28.31StephmwAiiane: gotcha
20:28.35NightHawkTheSaneooh, 30 sta food, too
20:28.48StephmwAiiane: pallies bubbling up and jumping off cliffs annoys me ;)
20:28.51Arrowmastertheres already 30 sta food
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20:28.56hyperChipmunkridable nether rays ftw
20:29.05NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: yeah, but its a pain to make
20:29.07kergothskyguard silver cross looks pretty decent
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20:29.19Aiianeskyguards have no healing gear -.-
20:29.27ArrowmasterNightHawkTheSane: no its not
20:29.32NeoTronkergoth: if you're chain killing things solo...
20:29.55NeoTronoh wait it doesn't say how long it lasts
20:29.56NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: doesnt it require you to fish something from Skettis?
20:30.05deltronso is there any new loot tables?
20:30.06deltron:)
20:30.09NeoTronbut I bet it's not that exciting. useless in groups too
20:30.12Arrowmastertheres other places besides skettis to fish it up
20:30.37Aiianealso, what is up with blizz and their Unique(20) food?
20:30.41NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: wasn't aware of that. Still, seeing as I don't have a char with over 260 fishing.. a pain. :D
20:30.45Aiianenot like its anything special -.-
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20:31.18Arrowmasterbtw its most defently a bug but the skyguards drape and skywitchs drape dont have a cooldown
20:31.48Antiarc|WorkSssshhh.
20:31.49NeoTronheh nice
20:32.11Arrowmasterdoes have a 30 second on equip cooldown though
20:32.24NightHawkTheSaneshame it doesnt have any sta. :\
20:32.28deltronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=27747 <-- mmm
20:32.54Antiarc|WorkI use my Duskbat for flying right now
20:32.59Antiarc|WorkBut that's not foolproof.
20:33.19the_squid""Spirit Tap": This ability will no longer be triggered by killing some creature-cast totems. "
20:33.28the_squidthat's annoying :P
20:33.38Aiianeyeah, basically
20:33.45Aiianepriests got two things out of 2.1.0
20:33.55Aiianebetter binding heal, and slightly better pain suppression
20:33.56deltronshaman got a nice nerf bat
20:34.12Aiianein return, shadow spec got nerfed
20:34.37NightHawkTheSanedeltron: I know /cry, the elemental focus nerf is kind of silly
20:35.35deltronNightHawkTheSane: yeah, that's a huuuuuuge nerf for elemental shaman
20:36.28Fisker-Gagorian
20:36.45Fisker-fuck this shit
20:36.57Fisker-i keep getting heals in at the same time as other healers :(
20:36.59Aiiane- "Silent Resolve": Some priest spells were unaffected by this talent. They should now all be affected.
20:37.01Aiiane^ if only that meant they were applying it to shadow again -.-
20:37.06Fisker-gg 5,5k overheals
20:37.18Aiianeget VisualHeal :P
20:37.24Aiianeor another predictive-healing mod ;)
20:37.35Fisker-I got incomingheals
20:37.44Fisker-there's some guy who hasn't
20:38.11Aiianewell, given their nature, it *is* sort of something that you have to standardize across your guild
20:38.17Aiianepick one, and have everyone run with it
20:39.01Fisker-it is a requirement though
20:39.04AiianeAt least, until someone designs a cross-compatibility standard and convinces mod authors to go with it. (Which will happen approximately after blizzard finally balances the game)
20:39.31Megalonex falso quodlibet? :P
20:40.01deltronFisker-: pally or shaman?
20:40.29Fisker-<-pally
20:40.32sbuhaha
20:40.36sbuwtb :/
20:40.51deltronbetter one from heroic badges
20:40.58deltronpass that shield to the shaman :)
20:41.03JoshBorkeAiiane: a simple lib to share casting information has been written, just no one uses it
20:41.24AiianeHence my parenthetical.
20:41.59AiianeDesigning standards is all well and great... but pointless if noone sticks with them
20:42.08kenlyricI want ot know which priest spells weren't getting it.
20:42.15Punkie`has anyone seen someone "swimming" through the air in wow before?
20:42.21JoshBorkePunkie`: yes
20:42.22Aiianekenlyric: PoM
20:42.25JoshBorkei reported a mage for doing it
20:42.35Punkie`yeah, because there is a shaman doing it right now
20:42.35kenlyricAiiane: that was a different patch note.
20:42.37JoshBorkemostly because he attacked me while i was flying
20:42.38Punkie`killing people
20:42.51kenlyricand, I could care less if silent resolve applies to PoM... I don't get the hate :)
20:42.52nymbiahttp://img239.imageshack.us/img239/9174/wowscrnshot041307144147rk7.jpg
20:42.56Aiianeit was. but given the quality of the listings in the patchnotes, i wouldn't be surprised if the points were redundant.
20:43.05kenlyricthis is true
20:43.06deltronFisker-: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29268 <-- that is what you need
20:43.12Aiianei mean.. there's a note about binding heal under pallies
20:43.16Aiianeand sanctity aura under priests
20:43.24AiianeWTB sanctity aura for priests? PST?
20:43.28kenlyricI'm thinkingi maybe mass dispel.
20:43.35Bibi`ouFnymbia : yeah got the skin as well on my site :p
20:44.12nymbiaBibi`ouF: last i looked it was just shoulders and helm?
20:44.21Bibi`ouFhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=94.0
20:44.25Bibi`ouFjust added it with black temple screens
20:44.28nymbiaBibi`ouF: anyway you dont need model viewers for tempest, it's valid to link in-game
20:44.39Bibi`ouFyeah on the pvp server but not on the pve
20:44.50nymbiaah
20:44.54Fisker-nah deltron
20:44.56Fisker-it sucks
20:45.04deltronhehe
20:45.06nymbiai havent tried ALL the other sets since all the other classes in the world have 3
20:45.11Fisker-looks cool though
20:45.13deltronFisker-: the shield from nightbane is awesome
20:45.16nymbiabut it looks like tempest is the only one
20:45.50CIA-1103ckknight * r32553 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - fix bug where an addon would show up twice in the addon memory
20:46.40kenlyricso, code changes already going in on 2.1... isn't going to be smart enough to know which version I have, or should I just refrain from updating?
20:46.52kenlyrics/isn't/is it/
20:46.55vhaarrOf course it is.
20:47.19ckknightkenlyric: why wouldn't it be?
20:48.07kenlyricwell, if it does something one way in 2.0, and another way in 2.1, I wouldn't expect them both to work.
20:48.33vhaarrWhy not?
20:48.41SarozDO NOT DOUBT
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20:48.45Sarozhave faith young one
20:49.03kenlyricvhaarr: uh,well, 2.0 springs to mind.
20:49.14vhaarrkenlyric: Our addons worked with both pre-2.0 and 2.0.
20:49.24vhaarrAnd they will work with 2.0.12 and 2.1 now.
20:49.27nymbiaplenty of addons were cross compatible with 1.12 / 2.0
20:50.03NeoTron<PROTECTED>
20:50.09NeoTronanyone know the details of that?
20:50.12Sarozwtf?
20:50.27MegalonMore +holy dmg gear? :D
20:50.27Sarozwell they nerfed boots of valiance
20:50.29Sarozbitches
20:50.45kenlyricthey didn't touch any of my karazhan loots.
20:50.50kenlyricthey did touch two of the trinkets.
20:51.12JoshBorkeare you sure it's not:  - All bosses in Karazhan now drop disenchanting materials instead of items so you don't have to disenchant anymore.
20:51.15NeoTronactually I think I saw some trinket changes
20:51.26NeoTronlike the romulo poison vial including a +hit on equip
20:52.34Punkie`JoshBorke: Is it editing game files?
20:52.37deltroni really want that trinket
20:52.37TecnoBratSaroz, how did they nerf them?
20:52.42Sarozless stats
20:52.43Saroziirc
20:52.47Sarozhavnt seen, just heard
20:52.50TecnoBratwhere did you see it?
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20:54.13Aiianedid they do anything to the Ribbon? as it was, it was pretty crap..
20:54.24deltronI still have the ribbon
20:54.28deltronI think I'm gonna DE it :P
20:54.54SarozI sold mine
20:54.56NeoTronSaroz: nerfing karazhan drops means they were, always, worse than blue drops
20:54.58NeoTronthat's hardly likely
20:55.01Sarozthey buffed eye of gruul
20:55.08kenlyricthey buffed the ribbon.
20:55.13Sarozto?
20:55.23Aiianequote on new stats/functionality?
20:55.26Sarozit's still shit I bet
20:55.27kenlyricremind me which one that is?
20:55.34Sarozone from red riding hood
20:55.35Aiianehealing trinket from opera event
20:55.41Sarozevery heal adds + healiong on target
20:55.51Sarozsucks so hard
20:55.58kenlyricok, it still adds +heal, but 50% more.
20:56.01kenlyricand it has 11m/5s
20:56.03nevcairielhrm
20:56.04Sarozstill shit then
20:56.08Sarozoh 11 mp5?
20:56.09Sarozok nice then
20:56.11CIA-1103ckknight * r32554 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (8 files): FuBar_PerformanceFu - let the user set how many addons to show memory for.
20:56.12Aiianethe 11/mp5 is nice
20:56.19Sarozye
20:56.24nevcairielis it just me, or does 2.1.0 ignore folders starting with ! ?
20:56.28Aiianethat probably makes it worth it
20:56.38kenlyricand the other one, that had the mana regen that stacked, 14m/5s each stack for 20s?
20:56.44ckknightjust you, nevcairiel
20:56.47kenlyricit increased to 21m/5s and 34 int.
20:56.50ckknightnevcairiel: !BugGrabber loads for me
20:56.53kenlyricerrr, and added 34 int
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20:56.59vhaarrnevcairiel: It's just you.
20:57.02nevcairielckknight: buggrabber was failing for me, no idea why, will test again tho :p
20:57.14nevcairieland so was OmniCC
20:57.15vhaarrThat new Auto-Dismount option is really annoying, lol
20:57.20vhaarrnevcairiel: both work fine for me
20:57.31deltronauto-dismount?
20:57.50Stephmwvhaarr: modify Automaton and invert all the if statements for dismounting?
20:57.55kenlyricvhaarr.. it's stupidly coded, like most auto-dismount mods were when flying mounts first came out. I'm hoping the PTR will work out the major bugs.
20:58.03JoshBorkenevcairiel: mine loaded fine
20:58.14vhaarrindeed
20:58.21kenlyricthough, they do specifically mention "even flying mounts!" so maybe dismounting 600 feet in the air is working as intended.
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20:58.35Stephmwbuyer beware?
20:58.39kenlyricbut autodsimount + smartbuff = dead.
20:58.47TecnoBrat- Boats now have a bell that they ring when they arrive at the dock
20:58.49TecnoBrathaha
20:58.50Tullernevcairiel: my omnicc works :P
20:58.53Fisker-nymbia
20:58.55Fisker-i hate you
20:58.55kenlyricBING!
20:59.07NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: i'm telling you, it's totally intended. It's for b lizzard to sit and laugh about in their conference rooms :D
20:59.07Fisker-also conjured > bought food :(
20:59.55TecnoBrat- There is now epic helms purchasable from G'eras. Each cost 60 badges of justice
20:59.56Aiianebrb... have to close out firefox (and hence, chatzilla) to update svn. brb
20:59.56TecnoBrathmm
21:02.16nymbiaFisker-: :(
21:04.13Fisker-:(
21:06.10Bibi`ouFAl'ar down.
21:06.13Bibi`ouF(by Nihilum)
21:06.29deltronis that the phoenix?
21:07.33Bibi`ouFyup.
21:07.49Megalondid he drop fireresi gear? :PÜ
21:08.11Herioanyone have a T6 warlock pic for human males? =P
21:08.33Sarozvhaarr, NRT needs to say "Whisper me the name of your main, if you ARENT in the raid"
21:08.44vhaarrSaroz: nah
21:08.47CIA-1103roartindon * r32555 10Aloft/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
21:08.47CIA-11Aloft
21:08.47CIA-11- Added guild text module, disabled by default
21:08.47CIA-11- Added Guild and ShortGuild data modules
21:08.47CIA-11- Added long form to HealthText. HealthText will get an overhaul soon-ish.
21:09.15Sarozvhaarr, I got people in raid whispering me - they are tards :p
21:09.17HerioNRT?
21:09.58vhaarrSaroz: they should get a message saying they should not do that (actually they will get 2 messages)
21:10.08Sarozas I said, tards :)
21:10.11vhaarr:P
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21:16.26HerioNRT?!
21:16.26ckknightHerio: Nihilum Raid Tracker
21:16.26Herioah
21:16.26Herioexplains all
21:16.27TecnoBratwhoa, wtf
21:16.27TecnoBratResolute Cape
21:16.27TecnoBrat* Old: 289 Armor
21:16.27TecnoBrat* New: 349 Armor
21:16.27Diaowhere do you get this NRT
21:16.27Diaolol
21:16.27Heriodid they buff the boots of foretelling?
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21:16.28TecnoBratBoots of Foretelling
21:16.28TecnoBratOld: 27 Stamina
21:16.28TecnoBratNew: 24 Stamina, Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 16.
21:16.28TecnoBratSo, yes, they did :)
21:16.28Fisker-huge tower is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeg
21:16.28Heriointeresting
21:16.29hyperChipmunkBibi`ouF: what did you mean about slave pen chest nerfed?
21:16.29Heriowhere are you pulling this info from?
21:16.32Bibi`ouFhyperChipmunk : doesnt spawn anymore
21:16.34Fisker-fell from shade of aran and down :(
21:16.34TecnoBratHerio, http://www.worldofraids.com/burning_crusade/next-patch/item-changes/
21:16.34hyperChipmunkit spawns next to the steam pump to the left of you when you enter that open area
21:16.35Heriofinally it's gonna be better then the sigil laced boots
21:16.35Killmoreanyone have a screenshot of the ribbon ??? opera house drop
21:16.35TecnoBratI wish they swapped the "equip" on Ribbon of Sac and Pendant of the Violet Eye
21:16.35Bibi`ouFhyperChipmunk : can't loot it here if you're alone
21:16.35Herioby an underwhelmingly small margin
21:16.35hyperChipmunki just did it twice O_o
21:16.35TecnoBratThen Pendant of the Violet Eye would be a wicked regen trinket
21:16.46TecnoBratOMG focused use??! NEVER!
21:16.58hyperChipmunki used eyes of the beast to kite away the bogstrok and when they de-agro'd, looted the chest before they got back
21:17.31NightHawkTheSanegrr. wtb empty character copy queue.
21:17.49hyperChipmunkgive it a try =)
21:18.23Diaohttp://worldofraids.free.fr/news-patch/item-changes/frozenshadowweave.jpg
21:18.25Diaowhoops
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21:20.32Fisker-awww fap
21:20.41Fisker-i think i'm gonna get the violet eye pendant
21:20.46Fisker-when we kill shade :P
21:20.47Fisker-and if it drops
21:21.52Herioshade is fun
21:21.57Heriohow much have you worked on him?
21:22.39kenlyricI wonder how much HP the adds have now.
21:22.47sbuhm
21:22.50sbuwhere is t6 vendor?
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21:23.02nymbiaisnt one
21:23.05nymbiayet, anyway
21:23.08sbuhmm
21:23.19sbubut there are mage item tooltips?
21:23.30nymbiayup
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21:23.34sbuor privserver + gm powers?
21:23.40nymbiano
21:23.47nymbiathe mage items are legal to link
21:23.53sbuwhere to get item tooltips then? :)
21:23.56sbuoh
21:24.06sbuand other classes are not i suppose?
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21:24.19nymbianot the sets i've tried anyway
21:24.36TecnoBratWTF is this "Alt Left Click for Feedback" I am seeing on tooltips?
21:24.49WerikIt's exactly what it says
21:24.53nymbiawhats to explain?
21:24.57deltroni'm guessing some bug reporting type thing
21:25.01TecnoBratopens a ticket?
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21:25.06nymbiafeedback..
21:25.08nymbiaon the item...
21:25.21sbui havent sill got that 'daily' stuff :/ is it like you can complete 10 'daily' quests / day?
21:25.31shieldbsbu: yes
21:25.35sbuah :)
21:25.41Fisker-Herio it's my first time on him :O
21:25.47sbucouldnt find that stuff in patchnotes
21:25.47Fisker-but i think my other team has been on him once
21:25.52shieldbyou can do some quest once a day, and ten quests marked as daily a day
21:26.07Fisker-got him to 20% on second try but we're going for chess event instead now
21:26.25Arrowmasterfucking world server needs to stop fucking crashing
21:26.38sbushieldb: hm - once / day quests are marked as?
21:26.51shieldbthey're marked as "Daily"
21:26.52Arrowmasteras daily
21:27.03shieldbas opposed to raid/group/dungeon/pvp
21:27.37CIA-1103trh * r32556 10VanasKoS/modules/ChatNotifier.lua: VanasKoS: save some memory (2.1.0's profiling stuff is nice)
21:27.53sbuahh ok
21:28.12shieldbso if Quest X is marked as daily you can do that once a day, along with nine other quests that you can do once a day
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21:28.30sbui c
21:28.38deltronthat's kinda lame
21:28.57shieldbon one hand I want to say it's a way to slow people down for stuff and prolong subscriptions
21:28.59sbudaily implicates repeatable?
21:29.04shieldbyeah
21:29.27shieldbon the other hand it sounds like a good way to have 'not horribly difficult' repeatable quests with decent rewards
21:29.53sbuwell sounds like reputation quests ;o
21:31.12Heriohttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/duffman/emicyvgzlx3.jpg
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21:32.36deltronlol
21:33.33ckknighthttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wear/6549267.stm
21:33.36Arrowmasterwtf taint, "FuBar has been blocked from an action only available from the Blizzard UI." when using spellbinder to try and mount with my mount macro
21:33.47ckknightlol, Herio
21:33.56hyperChipmunkyea, it happens if you have /stopmacro in your macro
21:34.03hyperChipmunkwell, it did for me
21:34.05ckknightweird
21:34.14Arrowmasterno stopmacro in mine
21:34.14nymbiatsk tsk buffalo
21:34.20hyperChipmunkit's not fubar
21:34.24hyperChipmunkfor me, it was Ace2
21:34.32sbuheh yeah ckknight, heard about that on the radio ;o
21:34.32hyperChipmunkthey never id the right addon =p
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21:35.10Arrowmasteroh fixed it
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21:35.18Arrowmasteri had an error in my macro
21:35.28Arrowmasterodd that it threw a blocked error though
21:35.50hyperChipmunkyea but was she hot?
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21:36.37hyperChipmunki think we really have to blame the parents on this one
21:36.46sbumh, w/ 200 ppl going there? think so.... :o
21:36.52Herioyeah
21:36.53CIA-1103nymbia * r32557 10Buffalo/Buffalo.lua:
21:36.53CIA-11Buffalo:
21:36.53CIA-11- _G.self = Buffalo is a no-no.
21:37.02Heriothat's why you keep your parties small
21:37.06Heriogawd
21:37.25Heriowhat a dumb beezy
21:37.32Gnarfozwhy am I not surprised nihilum's page is down right now?
21:37.33Gnarfoz:D
21:37.44sbuwonder if she's also pregnant now :/
21:38.01Megalonif she got drunk, she probably is :P
21:38.14Eternally777Is there a way to extract the Interface files from the test realm installation?
21:38.41hyperChipmunki like how she had expected "only" 30 or 40 guests
21:38.48hyperChipmunkEternally777: use the addon kit
21:38.54hyperChipmunkit does both when you run it
21:38.57CIA-1103roartindon * r32558 10Aloft/CoreModules/HealthBar.lua:
21:38.57CIA-11Aloft
21:38.57CIA-11- Added packing options to health bar - ie. how far apart nearby healthbars are allowed to be
21:38.57CIA-11- Added Reset to Defaults option for health bar colors
21:39.18Eternally777hyperChipmunk: ah, ok
21:39.35Herio30 or 40 is too much
21:39.48kenlyricwait, she first said she didn't put the message up, but that she expected 30-40 guests?
21:39.58Herioyou'd need like 3 kegs to satisfy that!
21:40.01hyperChipmunkyea, i thought about that two
21:40.03hyperChipmunktoo
21:40.04kenlyricbecause a party with 30-40 teenagers is so well controlled as opposed to 200..
21:40.14hyperChipmunkbut 30-40 guests, one of them could have done it
21:44.17ckknight<PROTECTED>
21:44.20Antiarc|WorkYour current target will now display all of the duration based spells that you have cast on them with cooldown rings so you will know how much longer they will last. Very useful for warlock damage over time spells and druid healing over time spells as well as many others.
21:44.30Antiarc|WorkWhat does that mean? Debuffs on the unit frame have the cooldown model on them?
21:44.39kenlyricalso buffs
21:44.39ckknightthat gets everything that's global except frames (since they're global naturally)
21:44.48Antiarc|WorkSweet. I like it.
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21:45.28Tornhoofis there any addon for those new 2.1.0 profiling features already?
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21:45.50ckknightTornhoof: not for the CPU yet. PerformanceFu shows memory, though
21:46.00nymbiaspeaking of CPU
21:46.15Tornhoofah that's fine for the beginning, thx
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21:47.11nymbiaare the returns for Get*CPUUsage in different units for different functions? or am i insane?
21:49.11hyperChipmunkare the two mutually exclusive?
21:49.41vhaarrmaybe in nymbia's private world, don't confuse him hyperChipmunk
21:50.07kenlyricstupid black temple. Let me in!
21:50.31Fisker-anyone found out the prequest yet?
21:50.34vhaarrNot by the hair of my chinny chin chin!
21:50.43vhaarrFisker-: Don't think it's open yet.
21:50.50nymbiaO.o
21:50.57deltronman
21:51.01Tornhoofhmm k memory usage is fine for yata, 180kb is ok
21:51.06deltronI'm pissed at the shaman nerf :(
21:51.15kenlyriclooks like it's the same sort of event that the dark portal had.
21:51.32RoartindonAs long as it's not the same kind of event as AQ40......
21:51.39kenlyricendless skirmish outside until something changes and it opens.
21:51.54hyperChipmunki like how the entrance is a little crack in the wall
21:52.02hyperChipmunkat least, that's how it is on live servers
21:52.09hyperChipmunkninja commando team
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21:53.57deltronfuck I hate windows installer
21:54.30JoshBorkesomeone should write a simple library to do profiling on an addon ;-D
21:54.58JoshBorkemaybe not simple, but profiling
21:55.26kenlyricAceNotSimpleButProfiling
21:55.38Megalon:>
21:55.53ckknightJoshBorke: honestly, there's no point, imho
21:56.01ckknightJoshBorke: it'd be better done by an external addon
21:56.20ckknighttime to resurrect DebugFu, I guess :-P
21:56.21AmadeoI hope to see a good profiling addon that shows everything :)
21:56.32hyperChipmunkyea, i don't see that it'd be necessary
21:57.42CIA-1103rabbit * r32559 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (8 files): FuBar_PerformanceFu: Don't show the option for number of addons if we're not on 2.1.
21:58.27ckknightthe whole library thing with Ace2 does mess things up with the profiling system
21:58.43ckknightcause it looks like OnInitialize/OnEnable is run in Ace2 instead of the addon itself
21:59.00nymbiayeah
21:59.45nymbiastuff triggered by AceEvent as well, i think
21:59.57hyperChipmunk=\ you'd think they'd have provided for that
22:00.37ckknightanything where the function originates in Ace2 will be like that
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22:01.57CIA-1103trh * r32560 10VanasKoS/modules/DataGatherer.lua: VanasKoS: decreased memory growth... for great justice
22:02.02Tornhoofhmm i'm too dumb to use cpuprofiling, result is always 0
22:02.41hyperChipmunkyea, i was hoping they'd have understood that and offered some sort of system to let us at least manually identify where the functions are coming from
22:03.03ckknightTornhoof: gotta turn it on
22:03.11Tornhoofi did
22:03.17ckknightdid you /rl?
22:03.17Tornhoofsetprofile is true
22:03.21Tornhoofyeh
22:03.42ckknightit's scriptProfile
22:03.42ckknightnot setprofile
22:03.51ckknight<PROTECTED>
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22:04.21TornhoofSET scriptProfile "true" in my config.wtf
22:04.28nymbiaset it to "1"
22:05.51vhaarrif they just do a condition check on the cvar, "true" should work as well, but yeah
22:05.54Arrowmastergrr im about to transfer my character to the pve server
22:06.03Arrowmasterpvp keeps crashing
22:06.09vhaarrpve is crashing, too
22:06.10NeoTronckknight: when this feature was first announced, I suspected that would have been the case
22:06.39vhaarryeah we all did
22:07.41Arrowmasterthe npcs at the dark portal are gone
22:07.48Arrowmasterin blasted lands
22:09.02Tornhoofthanks nymbia, the 1 was the problem
22:09.02NeoTrongot tired and left
22:09.10Tornhoofanyway
22:09.21Tornhoofanyone has values for comparison?
22:09.37Tornhoofit's probably milliseconds right?
22:09.50nymbiathousandths yeah
22:10.29AmadeoIron Chef cladhaire
22:10.58clad|cookingindeed =)
22:11.01clad|cookingLasagna tonight
22:11.10hyperChipmunkallez cuisine!
22:11.39nymbiaTornhoof: which threw me cuz iriel's post says they're in seconds
22:12.42Tornhoofhmm
22:12.48Tornhoofif i understand this right
22:12.50GagorianHrmm, 272.2 kB. Gif less
22:13.32Tornhoofhmm i still don't really understand what that value means
22:13.33Tornhoofis it the cpu time since the last UpdateAddOnCPUUsage() ?
22:13.36nymbiano
22:13.44Arrowmasterso does [flyable] not work or something
22:14.18nymbiait's the CPU time since load (or since last  ResetCPUUsage() ).  it's only updated when you UpdateAddOnCPUUsage()
22:14.21ckknightTornhoof: last since reset
22:14.46Tornhoofah ok
22:15.10Tornhoofso basically i do myusage/(time()-lastresettime()) to get an idea?
22:15.15Arrowmasterthe demons at the darkportal in hellfire are gone too
22:15.20ckknightmaybe I could ask slouken for a frame:RegisterBucketEvent() hrm...
22:15.31ckknightTornhoof: yep
22:15.43Tornhoofok thanks
22:17.07Arrowmasterok i guess the demons arent gone, was just server crashing
22:17.28Tornhoofit crashes every 30s in europe
22:17.51Ominousckknight: joined areana and <Button:PitBullCluster1UnitButton2>printed
22:18.26ckknighthrm
22:18.27ckknightokay
22:18.30ckknightI see where
22:18.32ckknightthat's odd
22:18.45ckknighterrored right after, right?
22:19.47Ominousyea
22:19.52Ominousnow i cant see anything
22:19.57Ominousjust random textures everywhere
22:21.06ckknight<PROTECTED>
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22:22.20Eternally777What's the function to get a player's spell damage?
22:23.19nevcairielis there a framexml extractor for ptr ?
22:23.25Ominousckknight: yea i did :p
22:23.30nevcairielor do i have to get some generic mpq tool?
22:23.55ckknightnevcairiel: there's one on the blizz website
22:23.55ckknight~framexml
22:23.57purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p
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22:24.33nevcairieldoes that work with PTR data?
22:24.37Chompersck, PitBull went crazy on me
22:24.50ckknightChompers: care to give a real bug report?
22:24.50Chompersjoined an eye of the storm and all the frames went mad
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22:26.51CIA-1103shieldb * r32561 10Incubator/Incubator.toc: Incubator: toc updates
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22:29.59Phatrikckknight : http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/pb-aura-error.jpg
22:30.24deltronPhatrik: that's the same exact error I had last night
22:30.27Phatrikhappened right after I deselected a friendly target (was a little shady mage gnome)
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22:30.48ckknighthrm
22:30.51deltronPhatrik: were you group leader? I was group leader
22:31.21sbuhmmm
22:31.22PhatrikI wasn't in a group
22:31.38deltronah, I was in group, I have screenshot, but screenshot is at home :P
22:31.51NickenyfikenHappend to me too
22:31.53Phatrikor to be exact, I was in a group a while earlier
22:32.01Phatrikwasn't in a group at the time the error popped up
22:32.21AiianeEternally777: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRating
22:32.42Phatrikno wait, looking at the screenshot, I havn't been in any group during the session
22:32.48Aiianehmm, wait, no, that's not it
22:33.22Aiianealmost forgot spelldamage isnt a rating :P
22:34.00Arrowmasterckknight: i found a problem with AceComm
22:34.06ckknightshoot
22:34.17kergothPhatrik: heh, i got that error too last night
22:34.29Arrowmasteryou cant hook SendChatMessage() its tainting and blocking macros on PTR
22:34.47Amadeokergoth: I can do one better
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22:35.04CIA-1103trh * r32562 10VanasKoS/modules/DataGatherer.lua: VanasKoS: last memory growth fix for today.. does use less than 1k memory for 10.000 combat messages
22:35.10Arrowmasteror im perty sure its SendChatMessage() thats causing the tainting
22:35.10Amadeokergoth: http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8004/pitbulloy8.jpg
22:35.11AmadeoBAM!
22:35.46TecnoBratArrowmaster, isn't there cool tainting functions now?
22:35.55ckknightArrowmaster: it hooks SendChatMessage?
22:36.04Arrowmasteryes in the ChatThrottleLib part
22:36.22ckknightoh
22:36.24ckknightso it does
22:36.29ckknightgonna have to make that a secure hook
22:36.56NeoTronI assume memory profiling is per addon? or can it be more granual (method level?)
22:37.11Phatriknow if just Buu had a "proper" castbar (placed under and in size with the manabar) :P
22:37.44TecnoBratNeoTron, according to the 2.1.0 changes post .. its per addon thats it
22:37.58Chompersck: i made a ticket
22:38.05Chompersif that helps
22:38.14trhNeoTron: it's per level, but with embedded libraries the first addon that loads them gets to be huge =)
22:38.15NeoTronwell at least I can use it to see which addons suck >:-)
22:38.27kergothAmadeo: hehe, http://gallery.kergoth.com/wow/crazypitbull
22:38.29trhNeoTron: err.. per addon
22:38.50Amadeokergoth: haha...PitBull's biting back!
22:38.56TecnoBrattrh, is that the case?
22:39.06TecnoBratit was supposed to be smarter than that iirc
22:39.26trhTecnoBrat: it looks that way... with ace2 enabled, ace2 is 2mb, if disabled a addon that loads the ace libraries gets big
22:39.32trhTecnoBrat: but i didn't tested it much
22:39.47sbuok, shadow spec isnt that good ;o
22:39.54Bibi`ouFhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=97.0 ^^
22:40.01sbuat least for solo play
22:40.05ckknightwell, gtg to school
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22:42.36TecnoBrattrh, hmm I guess non-externals would help that
22:42.45trhTecnoBrat: sure
22:43.07TecnoBratfor someone who is trying to see which mod is a memory / cpu hog
22:43.08Kemayovhaarr: Patching how?
22:43.13TecnoBratwhich I am really curious on myself
22:43.14CIA-1103nymbia * r32563 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (11 files in 11 dirs):
22:43.15CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
22:43.15CIA-11- Remove profiling stuff, since it's kinda obsolete now.
22:43.26Aiianesbu: for priests?
22:43.32sbuyep
22:43.32Aiianeshadow spec is great for solo play
22:43.35TecnoBratmy addons use way too much memory, but I also have lots of em
22:43.42sbui like my holy/disc better
22:43.50Aiianeplayed properly, they can achieve zero downtime
22:43.53sbuhmm
22:43.54sbuwell
22:44.02sbuconsumes too much mana
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22:44.04sbudont know why
22:44.13Aiianewhat's your typical fight look like?
22:44.19Aiianei.e. what do you cast
22:44.22Aiianeand/or do
22:44.24sbushadow or holy?
22:44.28Aiianeshadow
22:44.35NickenyfikenWhoever wrote ShardCountFu can remove it or fix it cus it is broken :-P
22:44.47sbuvamp touch, vamp embrace, swp, mindblast, mindflay
22:45.14Aiianeafter that?
22:45.21sbumore mindflay ;)
22:45.24sbu+ sw:death
22:45.25Aiianek. that's your problem
22:45.34AiianeVT, VE, SWP, mindflay, wand to death
22:45.34sbuor mindblast again
22:45.36Aiianerinse and repeat
22:45.37sbuhm
22:45.37sbuah
22:45.38Diaowow
22:45.41Diaohttp://img67.imageshack.us/img67/982/wowscrnshot041307171845za9.jpg
22:45.43sbushadow wand i guess? :p
22:45.49DiaoCheck out the new spellreflect icon
22:45.54Aiianeshadow wand, or something else with good dps
22:45.57DiaoLOL DON'T CAST I'M GOING TO REFLECT ON YOU
22:45.59Aiianelike the arena wand
22:46.17Aiianediao: can't be worse than pain suppression's effect
22:46.35AmadeoLooks like the Tier 6 Warlock "wings" only appear for a second when you equip the helmet
22:46.41DiaoJust look at it
22:46.41Diaolol
22:46.45Aiianei did, diao
22:46.50Aiianeit's not worse than pain suppression ;)
22:46.58DiaoMeh
22:47.03Amadeobut nobody can do anything about Pain Suppression
22:47.05DiaoThey already made retaliation useless
22:47.06kergothhow do the rogue sets look?
22:47.07sbuwell shadow wand is affected (boosted) by that shadow debuff?
22:47.11Diaoby doing the same thing
22:47.15Amadeokergoth: Meh...
22:47.22Amadeokergoth: I think they all look bad, personally
22:47.49Aiianesbu: by shadow weaving, yes. +15% (10% after 2.1.0)
22:47.59sbuah shadow weaving, yes ;o
22:48.06Aiianeso if you have a wand that does at least 11% more DPS than your shadow wand, use it inistead
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22:48.21TecnoBratshadow wands also proc VE and VT
22:48.26AiianeNope, Tecno
22:48.27sbuoh
22:48.37Aiianeboth specifically read "shadow spell damage", and do not proc off wands
22:48.49TecnoBratuhhh they used to then
22:49.08AiianeNot since 2.0 at the very least.
22:49.16TecnoBrat(I haven't played my shadow priest in ages .. so I could totally be out of the loop)
22:49.17AiianeMemory fails me before that.
22:49.18TecnoBratAges = months
22:49.21NightHawkTheSaneThey never did, id ont think
22:49.54AiianeThe character info screen used to show wand damage being affected by +spelldmg, but it never actually was. Just a display bug.
22:50.16TecnoBratThey used to be effected by attack power :P
22:50.17AiianeHow I wish wand damage were affected by spelldmg though :P
22:50.21TecnoBratthose were the days!
22:50.42AiianeTBH, i'd sort of like click-per-shot for wands back though
22:50.52PProvostHey ckknight has something changed w/ the sorting of groups in PitBull? Can't seem to find the option any more and it isn't ordered right.
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22:51.34Tornhoofhe's afk pprovost
22:52.00sbuAiiane: meh ok... but i need holy priest burst damage ;o (well, nerfed w/ 2.1 since surge of light gets 'fixed' :/)
22:52.20sbui liked that 6k dmg in ~2s thing :/
22:52.27Aiianewell, shadow can get quite good burst damage as well, just not if you want mana efficiency at the same time
22:52.44AiianeMindBlast + SW:D can easily be 4k in < 1sec
22:52.57Aiiane(no GCD since MindBlast is back-loaded and SW:D is front-loaded)
22:53.00sbuhmm k
22:53.08Arrowmasterwtf felarmor is now green
22:53.14sbumh - gn8 then ;o
22:53.24AiianeArrowmaster: Happy st patricks? >.>
22:53.27PProvostTornhoof, have you noticed what I mentioned?
22:53.28AmadeoSome chick made a computer case out of....a beaver - http://www.hardocp.com/images/news/1176477421Gqqv7GVh99_1_1_l.jpg
22:53.44trhAmadeo: creepy
22:53.51AiianeLol Amadeo
22:54.15AiianeNow, what some people are no doubt wondering... how long before someone brings up innuendos.
22:54.27Aiiane^ Notice the self-fulfilling statement.
22:54.34AmadeoI thought that to begin with :)
22:57.00AmadeoFirst a beaver, then her husband!
22:57.37Aiiane>.>
22:58.19nymbiaCHAT_MSG_MONSTER_PARTY ? wtf?
22:58.35vhaarrnymbia: I posted a thread on 2.1.0 in the developers forum
22:58.37hyperChipmunkmy speculation that's like monsters whispering you
22:58.45hyperChipmunkbut to your entire party
22:58.54nymbiavhaarr: yeah i saw
22:59.01hyperChipmunkso you don't miss lore text being out of range or something
22:59.33Amadeonymbia: Have you been working on PitBull auras?
22:59.48TecnoBratAmadeo, that must have been a Canadain
22:59.51TecnoBratCanadian*
23:00.02AmadeoTecnoBrat: No idea, didn't look that much into it :)
23:00.06nymbiaAmadeo: not since i did the multi-row stuff
23:00.10Amadeohm
23:00.20AmadeoI want to be able to move the buff/debuffs so they're similar to this - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full5125.jpg
23:00.22AmadeoIs that possible?
23:00.41nymbiawith a couple more options in the layout
23:01.21AmadeoI can't live without it! I'm dying! *dies*
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23:01.46vhaarrnymbia: I listed monster_party there
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23:02.32nymbiavhaarr: just saw that ;)
23:03.01vhaarr:<
23:03.37TecnoBratAmadeo, melodramatic much? :P
23:03.50Amadeo(I can't talk, I'm dead)
23:05.19AmadeoOnly nymbia can save me!
23:05.34CIA-1103nymbia * r32564 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.lua:
23:05.34CIA-11PT3Browser:
23:05.34CIA-11- Use DressUpItemLink(), DressUpItem() is removed in 2.1
23:06.28CIA-1103nymbia * r32565 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
23:06.28CIA-11GrindStatus:
23:06.28CIA-11- Use DressUpItemLink(), DressUpItem() is removed in 2.1
23:07.12CIA-1103morgalm * r32566 10MorgBid/ (MorgBid.lua MorgBid.toc):
23:07.12CIA-11MorgBid:
23:07.12CIA-11- added check for bidwar so can't bid less than current bid
23:09.16CIA-1103morgalm * r32567 10MorgDKP/ (6 files):
23:09.16CIA-11MorgDKP:
23:09.16CIA-11- added whisper switch for whispering item info to bidders
23:09.16CIA-11- added whisper system so morgbid isn't required by everyone (still better that way)
23:09.17CIA-11- fixed TOC error (forgot .lua lol)
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23:14.22TecnoBrat.lua is overrated
23:15.10CIA-1103roartindon * r32568 10Aloft/ (. Aloft.toc Modules/GuildText.lua):
23:15.10CIA-11Aloft
23:15.10CIA-11- Added attach-to-name options for Guild text
23:15.10CIA-11- Now requires AceHook
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23:17.29KemayoOh, thank you!  They finally got rid of the random color global in GetDifficultyColor.
23:18.04nymbia~blame haste
23:18.06purlACTION blames haste (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
23:18.19hasteaaw00t?
23:18.30Mikmayeah
23:18.32Mikmablame him
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23:19.16hastethinking of the set of patches now nymbia? :p
23:19.24nymbiayeah
23:19.37hasteI had forgotten about those actually
23:19.41nymbiai want my global pollution back!! ;)
23:19.48hastelol
23:19.50nymbiain other news
23:20.09nymbiaflying mounts are animated at abut 1000% speed on the us PVP test
23:20.26nymbiapretty amazing
23:20.27vhaarryeah it really drives me nuts
23:20.41vhaarrhave to hold down strafe to counter it
23:20.52nymbiayup
23:21.38KemayoAnyone actually encountered a daily quest yet?
23:21.49nymbiathe netherwing ones
23:21.50kenlyricuh, yeah.
23:21.56nymbiaand the hellfire fortification one
23:21.57kenlyricnot ten, yet.
23:21.58Aiihellfire pvp quest
23:22.32KemayoAw, they made hellfire daily?  I'm sad.
23:23.14CIA-1103roartindon * r32569 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua Modules/GuildText.lua):
23:23.14CIA-11Aloft
23:23.14CIA-11- Now uses AceHook in Aloft.lua too
23:23.14CIA-11- Changed GuildText to default to attach mode
23:25.17CIA-1103roartindon * r32570 10Aloft/CoreModules/HealthBar.lua:
23:25.17CIA-11Aloft
23:25.17CIA-11- Changed packing width/height ranges
23:29.06Arrowmasterwtf i found a simon says game in blades edge
23:29.16nymbiaO.o
23:29.33Arrowmasterill get cords when i log back in from the server crash
23:32.02ArrowmasterHAHAH
23:33.29Saint-Nhttp://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-exploits/16606-duplicate-gold-one-use-only.html
23:33.37Arrowmasterhttp://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041307193223wp8.jpg
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23:33.58Arrowmasterbunnies everywhere!
23:35.30ArrowmasterhyperChipmunk: http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041307193223wp8.jpg
23:35.52hyperChipmunkyea, i bugreported them this morning =)
23:36.36Arrowmasterim filling the area with bunnies
23:37.43Arrowmasterah they removed my primal fire farming spot =(
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23:41.41CIA-1103roartindon * r32571 10Aloft/ (CoreModules/NameText.lua Modules/GuildText.lua):
23:41.42CIA-11Aloft
23:41.42CIA-11- Tidy up of some logic to both fix lingering override-colors in nametext, and double-applying guild text
23:44.50CIA-1103roartindon * r32572 10Aloft/Modules/GuildText.lua:
23:44.50CIA-11Aloft
23:44.50CIA-11- And attached mode now honors showOwn guild setting
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23:46.59*** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-143-84-201.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
23:47.05Eternally777Isn't there a table somewhere on WoWWiki that shows the hex code for item quality colors?
23:47.20Roartindonyou can look them up in game.. one sec
23:47.21CIA-1103kemayo * r32573 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Tiny change to localizations.
23:47.50Eternally777Yeah, but trying to print them in game is kind of a headache.
23:47.51RoartindonITEM_QUALITY_COLORS[index].hex
23:48.06rubik_Roartindon: had a strange quirk yesterday with aloft
23:48.13Roartindonrubik_: oh?
23:48.19Aiianehttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemQualityColor
23:48.37rubikwas showing me hostile plates regardless of setting.. until i hovered over them
23:49.00Roartindonoh, with visibility turned of hostile players turned off
23:49.04Roartindonbut hostile plates turned on?
23:49.10rubikthen they'd disappear (my setting wasn't Enabled for that particular type of plates)
23:49.33rubiki'll check exact setting in a few and let you know.. i'm horde.. it was happening on alliance players
23:49.41rubikand i have the setting to NOT show alliance player plates
23:49.47RoartindonYeah, it's probably if you have nameplates on, show hostile players off
23:49.54RoartindonAloft has to build a database of who hostile players are
23:50.17Saint-Nhow do you delte files at the dos prompt that have ?'s in thier name again?
23:50.17Roartindonso it can't make them disappear until you've identified them once
23:50.17Roartindonthen after that, it'll hide those players correctly
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23:50.37rubiki was at kara entrance.. so ppl were getting ported in for raid starts.. and they's pop right next to me.. with plates on.. until i'd hover over them.. plate would then disappear
23:50.54Eternally777Got it, thanks.
23:50.55kergoththe sunfury humanoids in netherstorm always seem to sound like they're meowing when i fight them
23:50.56kergothits odd
23:51.19Roartindonyeah, expected/anticipated behavior.. can't do anything about it - to add all those extra visibility options, I have to use my own databases
23:51.33Roartindonand I can't build those databases without hovering over them first, or targetting, or etc.
23:51.40shieldbrubik, less nameplates more autoattack!
23:51.42rubikRoartindon: ahh. k, got it now
23:51.53rubikhaha
23:52.22shieldbyour primary concern shouldn't be "huh, nameplates are showing up for enemy players"
23:52.30shieldbit should be "their nameplates show that they still have some health left"
23:52.39rubiki should clarify.. i'm on a pve server.. :P
23:52.44shieldbaww
23:52.52shieldbthat's far less fun ;)
23:52.54NightHawkTheSaneand thats why i prefer pve servers.
23:52.54shieldbsometimes, anyways
23:53.25rubiki don't think i could level a toon to 70 (or even anywhere close to 60) on a pvp server..
23:53.31shieldbit's never any fun to get ganked while you're trying to do something else, but it sucks to just have to fight for tapping a mob while farming someplace with no alternative besides /shoo or a strongly worded forum post
23:53.36rubikyou guys and gals who do that have much much more patience that i do
23:54.03NightHawkTheSaneshieldb: as a prot warrior, a /shoo and a strongly worded forum post were actually more effective than trying to kill them
23:54.15shieldbuhh, taunt?
23:54.20shieldb;)
23:54.23NightHawkTheSanehahah
23:54.24nymbiawhy do you say that?  it takes more patience to share mobs with the other faction than to just kill em
23:54.25Roartindonlol..
23:54.37rubikhaha
23:54.50rubiki just couldn't stand the ganking and corpse camping
23:54.53rubikthere's just no way
23:55.09NightHawkTheSaneyeah, that really gets on my nerves
23:55.17nymbiaits very difficult to get successfully corpse camped
23:55.27TecnoBratSomeone said that Boots of Valiance got nerfed, they didnt
23:55.37nymbiayou have to try real hard to let them keep you there
23:55.56nymbiai mean, what's rez range, like 40 yards?
23:56.03NightHawkTheSanenymbia: true, but its painfully easy to just make life miserable for someone
23:56.25rubikyes.. and with how many immature people play this game... ughh
23:56.26Aiianenymbia: depends on the class/levelrange
23:56.34shieldbgood to see that the new priest tier 5 healing gear is still sidegrade compared to tailoring gear >.>
23:56.49Aiianefor instance, a level 60 camping a level 40 will do it successfully most of the time
23:56.57Aiianegiven that even if they res out of range, the 60 can run them down on a mount
23:57.06binderis there an ace lootlink type mod?
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23:57.13Aiianebinder: ItemSync
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23:57.27bindercan I import from my lootlink database or do I start from scratch?
23:57.29NightHawkTheSaneTooltipExchange as well
23:57.41AiianeDon't believe either has imports.
23:57.41syerenckknight, you here :)?
23:57.44syerenOr [Ammo] :P
23:57.51Arrowmasterckknight went to class
23:57.53ckknightI just logged on
23:58.04Arrowmasterfrom class?
23:58.04ckknightI have class in an hour
23:58.08syerenPitbull is doing something weird, got a screen for you ckk :)
23:58.12ckknightno, I drove to school
23:58.19Aiianeon a side note, any idea how long it takes for svn access requests to go through? no rush, just curious on timeframe :)
23:58.33ckknightAiiane: within a day, I'd say
23:58.37Aiianekk :)
23:58.41ckknightuntil then, I need to write about a "current event"
23:58.43NightHawkTheSanedepends on how often Kaelten checks his email
23:58.43beerkeanyone know a instance reset timer ?
23:58.46Aiianelol ckknight
23:58.50Aiianelove those assignments ><
23:58.54ckknightyea
23:58.58Aiianebeerke: like what?
23:59.00Aiiane<PROTECTED>
23:59.02ckknightthinking of doing the RIAA chick joining the Dems
23:59.09syerenckknight: http://fabrikate.org/wow/whatframes.jpg
23:59.10beerkelike shows me cooldonw on all 5 instance resets
23:59.14Aiianetype /raidinfo
23:59.16Aiianeingame
23:59.33Arrowmasteri made a fubar plugin that basicly just shows what /raidinfo shows
23:59.34Aiianegives you both your instance ID, and your cooldown, for each instance
23:59.35beerkethat is raidinstances
23:59.39Arrowmasterbut i havent published it
23:59.42beerkeneed normal mode instances
23:59.49Aiianeoh
23:59.54NightHawkTheSaneno, and im not sure its possible to do that, is it?
23:59.58beerkebesides raid instance you can't manual reset

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