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00:03.16RoartindonGnarfoz: Will commit a fix in a sec... testing
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00:04.19MorghusWoo! My heroes of addons! :)
00:05.01Morghus^^
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00:06.26CIA-1103roartindon * r32381 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Addons/Game code calling ShowNameplates/HideNameplates when nameplates are already in that state no longer trigger status reports
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00:07.09MorghusOh yes. What I came for *blush* Sorry to pester, but I've been banging my head against this one for a while now: .\AddOns\PT3Bar\OtherConfig.lua line 1:
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00:07.42MorghusWhich completely confuddles me :o
00:08.13ckknighthey all
00:08.15Garoun|Loupanaand there's the guy I wanted ask if there was any way to change the font size of the new option ;) yet
00:08.20Garoun|Loupanaeve ck
00:08.30ckknight~ugt
00:08.40purl[ugt] Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
00:08.40Garoun|Loupanalol
00:08.43ckknightalright, I have an hour
00:08.47ckknightI'm gonna code something.
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00:09.49ckknightwhat should I code?
00:10.18RoartindonFont sizes in pitbull
00:10.22Garoun|Loupana2nd that
00:10.25Heriocode natural male enhancement!
00:11.04MorghusThe ability to completely eliminate frames you don't need in PitBull. Right now I am placing them in corners because it appears it only changes alpha :P
00:11.31ckknightMorghus: actually what happens is that it destroys all the child frames, leaving only a single blank frame left.
00:11.38GnarfozHerio: that already exists, check your mailbox -.-
00:11.45ckknightwhich is really the only way for smooth transitions in combat
00:11.55ckknighthowever even the prevalence of that is arguable.
00:13.39MorghusI had the impression that 'Hidden' removed the raid-frames, but as I said, they go into alpha and covers the middle.
00:13.55ckknightthe alpha doesn't actually change
00:14.05ckknightand actually it should destroy them if the hidden option is set.
00:14.08ckknightodd that it doesn't...
00:14.20ckknightyou sure it doesn't?
00:14.55MorghusA moment. I'll double-check
00:16.23CIA-1103ckknight * r32382 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - locked frames no longer move when alt is held down. I use that as my purify for Click2Cast. Instead, just unlock if you want to move em.
00:16.54Gnarfozyeah
00:17.00GnarfozI want that for aguf, too :D
00:17.16ckknightGnarfoz: want what?
00:17.17GnarfozI guess I'll just check the commit diff ;D
00:17.34Gnarfozto disable alt-drag-movement of locked frames
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00:17.57dreyruugrckknight: how about adding support for raid groups?
00:18.10ckknightthat is a huge, complex process I'm not willing to take on right now
00:18.21dreyruugrchicken.
00:18.26Morghusckknight, I think you're right. It seems to have destroyed them now. I wonder why it didn't earlier ( was alot of angry raiders today at Gruul's over it :P )
00:18.56dreyruugrit's only huge and complex if you're trying to do a version 2.0 implementation
00:18.56MorghusMight be the game-restarts.
00:19.19ckknightdreyruugr: and I likely will.
00:20.09MorghusA new layout for PitBull would be nice. Perhaps an example-version with really simple setup in the lua ;)
00:20.38dreyruugrwhy not start with 1.0?
00:21.01dreyruugri.e. 8 "groups" of 5 raid frames
00:21.05ckknightdreyruugr: because I think it's better to be forward-thinking than iterative
00:21.21ckknightespecially since we have the new version available to us
00:21.29ckknightI'm actually gonna do some research on the raid grouping
00:21.30dreyruugrthat's generally not the case
00:21.34ckknightfigure out what are all the possibilities
00:21.35clad|workckknight: I made almost 220 gold selling some basic enchanting mats.
00:21.44ckknightnice, clad|work
00:21.55NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
00:21.59cladhaireso i can get my mount pretty soon now =)
00:22.00Roartindonclad: I made 1000g in the last two weeks, buying all of the large prismatic shards on AH below 13g, and relisting them :P
00:22.01ckknightcladhaire: awesome part about AHing enchanting mats is that there's no deposit
00:22.15cladhaireaye, its very nice =)
00:22.17cladhaireRoartindon: hehe
00:22.19dreyruugryou might spend all this time coming up with the ultimate great design for raid frames, only to find out it's not what you wanted
00:22.29dreyruugriteration is king in design
00:22.39MorghusClad, you done questing? Questing and disenchanting is amazing cash :)
00:22.44ckknightI'll do iteration after I've implemented the 2.0 version
00:22.45dreyruugrask blizzard :)
00:22.53cladhaireMorghus: nope, only level 64 atm
00:22.53dreyruugror
00:23.03dreyruugrany other good game designer :)
00:23.08cladhairebe back in a second, need to restart Colloquy
00:23.20Gnarfoz'unitframes of awesomeness' and 'start with 1.0 first' don't fit together :D
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00:23.50dreyruugrsure they do
00:25.33Garoun|Loupananot to mention if ck starts with the 8x5 grouping, he'll still have to re-code it when he moved it to 2.0
00:25.33CIA-1103ckknight * r32383 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: PitBull - add note about biting your face off to toc.
00:25.33dreyruugrhe's doing it right now even... look at the checkin progression for PitBull... adding a module at a time
00:25.33ckknightthis isn't a module thing
00:25.33MorghusOh yeah. Anyone knowledgeable about PT3Bar here? Got this weird error I can't get my head around :(
00:25.33ckknightit's a core component that won't be modularized
00:25.33dreyruugrbut design wise it's the same idea
00:25.33dreyruugrbasics first, then iterate (even if that means a refactor at some point)
00:25.46ckknightI don't feel like refactoring
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00:27.05CIA-1103jjsheets * r32384 10InfiniBar/ (IB_Core.lua IB_Standard.lua):
00:27.05CIA-11InfiniBar - Streamlined Button Update system; yet again, I hope to have fixed
00:27.05CIA-11the cooldown issues, will need testing to be sure. OmniCC should function
00:27.05CIA-11properly with InfiniBar now. (It does for me) Added quite a few comments.
00:27.07JJSheetsTest please.
00:27.34RoartindonMorghus: I don't use PT3bar.. but what's your problem?
00:27.47MikmaJJSheets: nah, i don't wanna whine about bugs.
00:27.57JJSheets; ;
00:28.03JJSheetsTest please?
00:28.12Mikmasomeone please test it!
00:28.32MorghusI get this error: ..\AddOns\PT3Bar\OtherConfig.lua line 1: '=' expected near 'PT' and I can't get my head around what could be causing it
00:28.55RoartindonMorghus: recent version?
00:28.58ckknightsomeone tell me where I should start wrt researching the raid grouping stuff
00:29.19RoartindonI don't have an OtherConfig.lua in PT3Bar that I just checked out
00:29.20dreyruugrwow ui forums, "post your UI" type threads
00:29.29ckknightreading SecureStateHeader.lua now
00:29.30cladhaireckknight: whatcha looking for?
00:29.38dreyruugrlook at what the community uses
00:29.41JJSheetsnote... it's still missing next melee highlighting... and I have yet to look into the in combat/out of combat enabling fade outs...
00:29.50ckknightcladhaire: I want to add raid grouping stuff to PitBull
00:29.58JJSheetshyperChipmunk, feel like testing my latest commit?  :)
00:29.58ckknightcladhaire: and learn all of the possibilities first, before I start
00:30.06cladhaireSecureTemplates.lua
00:30.13ckknightokay
00:30.16MorghusRoartindon: It's modified config.lua that you name otherconfig.lua :)
00:30.22cladhaireEsamynn has all the header properties listed there
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00:30.56JJSheetsWho was wanting dreamlayout style buttons in InfiniBar?  Mikma?  They're in.
00:31.30ckknightcladhaire: I see, thanks :-)
00:31.41MikmaJJSheets: too late :(
00:31.47cladhaireckknight: I believe there's party pet support in 2.1.0
00:31.50cladhairebut we dont have that code yet
00:31.55ckknightokay
00:32.01JJSheetshow so is it too late?
00:32.30RoartindonMorghus: I assume you copied Config.lua to OtherConfig.lua?
00:32.33Mikmai already decided i will be using my own barmod, eventho it sucks ass and doesn't work with warrior,rogue or druid ;)
00:32.49RoartindonThere might be something your editor is doing to mess up the file header
00:33.01Roartindonie. saving in some weird encoding, with prefix bytes
00:33.14MorghusRoartindon: I am using EditPlus, and it's never messed up anything before.
00:33.18JJSheetsah.  have fun with that then.  :)
00:33.22ckknightmmm... secure pie
00:33.41RoartindonMorghus: Try a clean copy of Config.lua to OtherConfig.lua without any editing to see if the clean one works, then try editing?
00:33.59MikmaJJSheets: thanks, will do meh. atleast it's quite small on resources ;D
00:34.02Roartindonthe error is consistent with if there were a header prefix.. ie.. local becomes <headerBytes>local
00:34.27Roartindonthen the interpreter is expecting an equals after this, as its now considered a variable name
00:34.28JJSheetsI have the page change lag pretty much fixed now too.
00:35.55MorghusWill do Roartindon. *fiddles*
00:36.00art3misyay notepad2
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00:36.55MikmaJJSheets: well i will test it after i get pissed off with my abmod lol
00:37.01JJSheetslol
00:37.13MorghusIt would be odd if this helps. Editplus2 has never failed me in any way before :o
00:37.23MorghusProbably me messing something up ;D
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00:39.26NeoTronso my guild might change to a loot council/suicide kings hybrid loot model for 25-mans
00:39.29NeoTronshould be interesting
00:39.57MorghusLoot-debates are so ... "interesting".
00:40.03NeoTrontell me about it
00:40.08NeoTronI'm on the loot council. It's tiresome
00:40.17NeoTronthus discussions on a new system
00:40.26DaemonaRoartindon as you are just around here, is it intended that every new rev of aloft resets all the settings? or did you change the savedvar format for aloft and i just have to get rid of the aloft.lua once to get it in line again? ;)
00:40.55Morghus*shrug* My personal kick goes to "FFA, but we'll block you if you're a retard" :D
00:42.04CIA-1103roartindon * r32385 10Aloft/Extras/AloftWaterfall.lua: Aloft: AloftWaterfall - changed configuration type to TREE. Just seems to look/work better
00:42.20NeoTronMorghus: SK is sort like balanaced /random
00:42.48NeoTronthe changes I proposed allows us to prioritize important gear to the MT and ensure that no gear someone would use would be DE'd
00:43.11Gnarfozwhat has the world come to, I can kill one, maybe two meelee mobs and then I have to eat/drink? oO
00:43.16GnarfozI'm going back to prot -.-
00:43.37NeoTronGnarfoz: I can kill ... err wait... I can kill any number of mobs I want
00:43.39RoartindonDaemona: No, I think settings are pretty much stabilized now
00:43.41NeoTronI never eat or drink >:-)
00:43.47NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: warrior? yeah, prot wont fix that. >.>
00:43.52Gnarfozpaladin
00:43.55MorghusA recommendation is to not prioritize anyone too much at all. Half the excitement of loot is to not have it asap. Hand it to him automatically and half the magic is gone.
00:43.58Gnarfozret now, to try it out
00:44.02NeoTronin fact I got in a 5-man and realized I had no food or drink sinceI never use it when soloing
00:44.10NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: ah, well screw you and you're "ill pull half the zone and live"
00:44.11RoartindonDaemona: The big change was from having a single Aloft monolithic addon, to splitting into modules. Now that its split, the variables are all separated, and I think settings will be preserved now :)
00:44.26GnarfozNightHawkTheSane: hah, THAT'S what I like about prot :D
00:44.30NeoTronMorghus: well it'd be minimal. we want to keep set items for loot council as a merit reward system
00:44.34NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: yeah, i do that a lot on my shammy
00:44.49Gnarfozno more of that right now, I consider even one mob 'dangerous' now
00:44.52CIA-1103ckknight * r32386 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - on destroying frames, set the unit to nil, not 'none'
00:44.57NeoTronand primarily want to have allowance to give huge upgrades to the MT whose life controls our success rather than the OT that tanks now and then
00:45.29NeoTronmost of the guild is OK, if not entirely happy with, pure loot council
00:45.34NeoTronit's just becoming too annoying to manage
00:46.00NightHawkTheSaneo
00:46.16NightHawkTheSanei'm slowly beginning to lean towards " /random, but dont be a jackass" loot s  tyle
00:46.35NeoTronand people don't like loot councils that correctly prioritize basedon merit rather than "fairness" :)
00:46.43MorghusHow does TBC warrant the need for lootcouncil by the way?
00:46.49NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: frankly, SK isn't far from that
00:46.59NeoTronMorghus: how would it not?
00:47.00NightHawkTheSaneyeah, actually i rather like SK.
00:47.07NeoTronwe don't just do 5 mans but also 10 and 25
00:47.16Morghusso far I havne't seen a single squabble over loot at all, and more of the "Go ahead, take it, I'll get it in a month" :P
00:47.31MorghusUnderwhelming upgrades perhaps.
00:47.31NeoTron25 isn't that much fewer than 40 and besides, we'll have a lot less 25-man loot to hand out in the forseeable future than 40-man loot pre-bc
00:47.37kenlyricNightHawkTheSane: it helps if you're compfortable kicking out anyone who is a jackass.
00:47.48NeoTronMorghus: for karazhan we won't bother most likely
00:47.51NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: lol, very true. :D
00:47.55kenlyricwhole lots of players don't really know "don't be a jackass" means.
00:48.17NightHawkTheSaneStrangely, that set intersects largely with the players who dont really know what "dont suck" means.
00:48.19NeoTronwe'll be combining it with a merit system
00:48.26ckknightthis SecureTemplate stuff is something I see myself wrestling with
00:48.27ckknightgrr
00:48.28kenlyricthis is very true, though not always.
00:48.34NeoTroni.e two ranks of raiders with separate lists or at least separat priority
00:48.40kenlyricsome of our biggest loot whores were our best plaayers.
00:48.51NeoTronthen the jackasses and bad players get less chance for loot while the core is equipped faster
00:49.02kenlyricwe have Raider and "you get scraps"
00:49.27NeoTronwe'll have core raider, raider, scraps :P
00:49.48NeoTronwe have quite a few raiders who just wouldn't qualify as "top players" in any way shape or form
00:49.52NeoTronother than nice equipment :P
00:50.08JJSheets>.<   my icons aren't updating on macro changes...
00:50.21Heriojust get 25 people who can show up all the time =P
00:50.29NightHawkTheSanei dont like particularly complex tiering schemes. :\
00:50.41NightHawkTheSaneand by "particularly complex" i generally mean more than two ranks
00:50.48NeoTronHerio: hopefully eventually yes
00:50.48kenlyricherio, much more difficult than you can imagine.
00:50.58Heriopre-TBC we just used zero-sum, and let the cards fall where they may
00:50.59NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: we will just have 2 ranks
00:51.09NeoTronthe non-raider rank is just friends who are never expected or desired in raids
00:51.09kenlyricunless you're top guild on your server, you can't really be free and easy with the recruiting, especially now.
00:51.18NeoTronand won't ever be invited unless we're desperately needing them
00:51.21kenlyrica lot harder to absorb people in smaller guilds when they can do karazhan.
00:51.33Heriothe leader did invites himself, and didn't have to follow a system or justify his choices
00:51.37NeoTronHerio: must say I don't like zerosum
00:51.42HerioI love it
00:51.45NeoTronbut yeah. 10 mans makes it harder
00:51.56NeoTronwel harder if you want two balanced groups
00:52.01NeoTronit encourages sharding
00:52.03Heriomostly because I got on top and stayed there
00:52.05NeoTronthat's why I don't like it
00:52.17kenlyricI mean, we could toss out our deadbeat tanks, but they do show up once or twice every two weeks.
00:52.40NeoTronkenlyric: indeed and we've had days when two main tanks were out and we had to use extras (and did ok)
00:52.49Herioa lot of our core people scattered when TBC hit
00:52.50kenlyricwhich is better than the 0 we have from rerruiting.
00:52.54MorghusRoartindon, thanks alot! Seems there was some confusion with formatting, like you said. I can't see what it'd be, but now it works *hugs*! \o/
00:53.17NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: you need tanks? i could use a reason to play my warrior :P
00:53.40kenlyricI already see issues forming in karazhan... dpsers who get upgrades every week, keep rolling for stuff against people who have nothing.
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00:53.46kenlyricNightHawkTheSane: our server needs tanks.
00:53.56MorghusYou don't use druids?
00:53.59kenlyricwell, unless you count druids.
00:54.07NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: hmm, what server, just out of curiosity
00:54.09kenlyricand yeah, we need druids too.
00:54.22MorghusOuch...? How come? they're all cat or something?
00:54.51kenlyricwell, there are quite a number of feral druids. They just aren't very good.
00:55.11kenlyricand, resto druid is like a rare white buffalo.
00:55.44NightHawkTheSanewell thats true on any server i think
00:55.48kenlyrici cry when our one feral druid tanks karazhan. I know i"m gonna have to work that night.
00:56.00Morghushahaha
00:56.01NightHawkTheSaneo_0 really?
00:56.07MorghusTanking as a druid is easy as heck
00:56.22kenlyricthose big guys after curator... hit him very, very hard.
00:56.24MorghusPre-nerf it was so easy I hated it :P
00:56.33NightHawkTheSaneo_0
00:56.37NightHawkTheSaneyour druids must suck
00:56.38kenlyricoh, he has no trouble holding aggro.
00:56.40NeoTronferal druid tanks has to be really good with gear, enchants and gems
00:56.43NeoTronto be a great tank
00:56.45kenlyricit's the not taking damage
00:56.49NeoTronholding aggro - sure. taking the hits..
00:56.52NeoTronthat's the hard part
00:56.55Morghus... with the right gear a druid is just below a warrior in soaking.
00:56.56kenlyricI like that about the warriors, where theyd on't take damage
00:57.20kenlyricas I said before, can't really be choosy.
00:57.31MorghusThen it's not about skill, it's about gear. Keep 'em out of the raid till they've geared up *grins* Which means spending raid-nights doing it haha
00:57.37kenlyricwell you can, if you don't want to raid.
00:58.06kenlyricoh, Kargath_US
00:58.30MorghusHm?
00:58.39kenlyricsomebody asked for my server
00:58.54MorghusOh hehe.
00:59.37kenlyricman, wowhead needs a map of mailboxes. And cooking fires, and forges.
00:59.43JoshBorkeIF
01:00.28kenlyricyes, but there are a lot in the game, some I bet I don't even know about.
01:00.36HerioI made mailboxes mod +
01:00.45kenlyricI use the one for cart.
01:00.50kenlyricbut, I have to find them first :)
01:00.52Herioforges and  others are a lot harder
01:00.53Herioyeah
01:00.54Morghushaha
01:01.05NeoTronMorghus: getting gear IS skill
01:01.11NeoTronjust a different kind of skill
01:01.17kenlyricyou could track forges by being able to smelt.
01:01.19HerioI should start a data-sharing drive so I can just put a preloading thing in to it
01:01.20NeoTronbesides, I've seen incredibly differences in SKILL in terms of tanking
01:01.38kenlyricsame for moonwells and cooking fires.
01:01.44HerioI'll write a forges one when I level up a miner =P
01:01.52Heriomoonwells is a good one
01:02.02kenlyriccooking fires is a good one.
01:02.16Heriofor all those it would be well suited into a single module =P
01:02.26MorghusNeoTron, doesn't matter what it's called. /shoo them off and tell them to farm gear outside raids :)
01:02.26kenlyricfinding one in shatttrath is fun. Half the fires don't register as fires.
01:02.47NeoTronhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Moonwell http://www.wowwiki.com/Forges,_Anvils,_and_Mailboxes
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01:02.58NeoTronenjoy
01:03.02MorghusI keep forgetting what a jewel wowwiki is :o
01:03.11JoshBorkethere's only one in shattrath isn't there?  in lower city
01:03.19JJSheetsGagorian, ace.pastey.net/11752  & ace.pastey.net/11753
01:03.25HerioI couldn't find the second mailbox in darn, so I gave up on that page
01:03.26kenlyricnice!
01:03.30Garoun|Loupanahehe I'm blind but feel like I'm using one of those big number phones right now :P
01:03.57NeoTronHerio: I know where the second one is
01:04.02NeoTronsince it used to be the only one :P
01:04.10Morghus"but I'm not telling! haha" ? =P
01:04.12NeoTronimho right outside an inn
01:04.15Heriowhere?
01:04.19Heriocoords?
01:04.22NeoTronno clue
01:04.26NeoTronI'm not on the computer
01:04.30Herioaww
01:04.37Heriotelepathic IRC ftw?
01:04.38kenlyricyou must not have ever done the festivals where you kiss the innkeepers :)
01:04.52NeoTronbut it's by the inn. sort of near the entrance from the newbie area
01:04.55CIA-1103roartindon * r32387 10Aloft/Extras/AloftWaterfall.lua: Aloft: AloftWaterfall - Disables GUI Configuration if the menu is already open. Hides Dewdrop menu when waterfall menu is opened
01:04.58HerioINJECT THE FREENODE DIRECTLY INTO MY VIENS... YARGGGGG
01:05.07Heriooic
01:05.12Morghus30.49 I think Herio
01:05.26MorghusSomewhere around there is the Inn in Darnassus
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01:05.38Heriookay
01:05.43HerioI'll give it a shot some time =)
01:05.55kenlyricdang, 4 mailboxes, but none in the dwarven district.
01:06.02MorghusErrr... mental note: Do not look at world map for that
01:06.21MorghusHerio, new 56.6!
01:06.30kenlyricheh.
01:06.30Morghus*is a nub*
01:06.56MorghusWas there an addon to nuke gold-sellers? :P
01:07.25kenlyricprat is frequenly updated with filters.
01:07.29AnduneI use taggle.
01:07.37DiaoSpamsentry?
01:08.28Garoun|Loupanawoops, did the hold alt thing while dragging a frame, and the person changed targets ;) had to do a ui refresh
01:08.30MorghusThanks, I'll check it out.
01:09.27Garoun|Loupanaok, don't try repositioning a frame with pitbull that has a chance of dissapearing such as party target
01:09.34Garoun|Loupanait gets stuck under your mouse
01:10.24Garoun|Loupanaor I should say it gets perma glued to your mouse
01:11.59cladhairethat can be fixed with an OnHide() script
01:11.59cladhaireheh
01:12.52MorghusA friend of mine was tanking Attumen I think it was. His interface locked up for some reason, and the Alt-F4'd out in panic when /reloadui didn't work. Took him ages to log back in. He returns and finds himself still having aggro. Thank god they nerfed druid.-threat :P
01:13.01cladhairelol
01:14.08OminousJJSheets: still get cooldown problem
01:14.10NightHawkTheSaneyeah, ive seen a druid tank moroes from 20% down to 5% even though he was dc'd :P
01:14.18CIA-1103jjsheets * r32388 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - Fix for Macros not updating icons correctly.
01:14.34Morghusand people thought I was mad for wanting us nerfed hehe
01:14.47JJSheetsOminous, what exactly is happening?
01:15.19OminousJJSheets: cast frost nova, which toggles global cooldown which shows in frost nova as well when it should be frost novas own cd showing
01:15.51JJSheetsit never starts a full cooldown?
01:16.08Ominousno
01:16.18JJSheetsyou have a tauren?
01:16.43JJSheetsbetter yet... can you just test war stomp on a tauren for me?
01:16.51Ominousok
01:17.49kenlyricMorghus: you're still mad.
01:18.11Morghushaha :)
01:18.21kenlyricI certaindly didn't mind completely overpowered druids.
01:18.35OminousJJSheets: that works
01:18.38JJSheetsk
01:18.48JJSheetsis frost nova an instant?
01:18.57kenlyricyup
01:19.02Ominousyea
01:19.14kenlyricmult-shot is a very fast non-instant
01:19.19JJSheetsokay... I 'may' know what's going on then...
01:19.21CIA-1103damjau * r32389 10NextStep/: NextStep - first release
01:19.24kenlyric(if you need to test somethign like that.
01:19.59Ominousdamjau: whats that?
01:20.15NightHawkTheSanean old operating system?
01:20.53CIA-1103damjau * r32390 10NextStep/: NextStep -
01:21.05Ominoususeful message that :D
01:21.38CIA-1103jjsheets * r32391 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - Potential fix for weird cooldowns.
01:21.53JJSheetsOminous, test frost nova with that for me?  :)
01:21.55Ominousok
01:24.02JJSheetsah... helll. I don't think that's fixed it actually...
01:24.21Ominousnope
01:24.29JJSheetsI know why at least...
01:24.34JJSheetsdamn I hate cooldowns...
01:25.30Ominous:D
01:28.47CIA-1103jjsheets * r32392 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - YAPFFWC (I'm abbreviating this bastard now...)
01:28.48JJSheetstry that.
01:29.12CIA-1103roartindon * r32393 10Aloft/ (13 files in 2 dirs):
01:29.12CIA-11Aloft
01:29.12CIA-11- All modules that have an "enable" option should show it as the top option
01:29.12CIA-11- Added disabled functions for almost all configuration options dependent on enable
01:31.31OminousJJSheets: ok
01:31.54JJSheetsok as in you're testing it or ok as in it's fixed?
01:33.08OminousJJSheets: its not
01:33.11Ominousworking
01:33.19Ominousbut when i change position on bar the proper cd shows
01:33.32vhaarr~seen damjau
01:34.00purldamjau <i=________@58.77.154.21> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 163d 18h 48m 41s ago, saying: 'sorry... TT'.
01:34.24vhaarrreally
01:34.27JJSheetsalright, what's the lowest level spell similar to frost nova?
01:34.38vhaarrhe was here 163 days ago, and he just made a commit
01:34.44JJSheetsinstant cast with cooldown starts global cooldown.
01:34.59vhaarrJJSheets: Fear Ward
01:35.07JJSheetswhat class?
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01:35.08vhaarrI have no idea
01:35.10vhaarrpriest
01:35.13JJSheetslol
01:35.14JJSheetsk
01:35.19vhaarrdwarf/draenei only
01:35.43vhaarrthere's probably a better spell to use for testing thouh
01:35.45vhaarrthough*
01:35.58JJSheetsanything lower level?
01:36.20vhaarrrogue stealth maybe?
01:36.33vhaarror does that not start GCD
01:36.44JJSheetsnot when leaving...
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01:37.29JJSheetswell.. I'm going to dinner... after that I'll hunt down a low level spell or one that I already have to test with and figure this thing out.
01:37.32JJSheetsadios ya'll
01:40.07NightHawkTheSanebah, earth shock is a good spell to test that.
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01:44.34hugoplease don't anyone know the color codes like red = #FF0000 for all the WoW classes ? :) im searching it for a think on my website, would appreciate it :>
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01:45.30RoartindonCheck RAID_CLASS_COLORS in game and convert :)
01:45.34vhaarr<PROTECTED>
01:45.35hyperChipmunkthey're in a table in-game, i think
01:45.45cynyr_slightly OT but is anyone here using Wine to play wow?
01:45.52vhaarrcynyr_: Many.
01:45.59hyperChipmunkcynyr_: <-
01:46.07hugoit say me the code i can use in website like #FF0000 ? :)
01:46.21hyperChipmunkno, it gives you rgb between 0 and 1
01:46.30vhaarrhugo: Babble-Class can convert it for you.
01:46.38hyperChipmunkyou have to multiply by 255 and convert to hex
01:46.44cynyr_okay, cause i'm trying to reinstall and when i go to install the expansion, i get that "the installer could not start up, you may be out of harddisk space"
01:46.49hugoi need it for website not for addon :D but thanks i check it out
01:47.28mjcok...
01:47.41mjchow the *fuck* do you do the first part of heroic durnholde
01:47.51cynyr_doh...
01:47.56NightHawkTheSanevery carefullly
01:47.59hugobtw do you think, color nicks in forum by class is good idea or it will look messy ? :)
01:48.01vhaarrmjc: You pull everything to the outside of the fortress using a good hunter.
01:48.02cynyr_mjc: 2 warlocks
01:48.10mjcvhaarr: everything? damn
01:48.12hyperChipmunkcynyr_: i forgot how i fixed that; make sure your wine drive is correctly done
01:48.18vhaarrmjc: Well, we did that, worked fine :P
01:48.32cynyr_hyperChipmunk: i just noticed i'm only to patch 1.12 that could be it
01:48.33vhaarrmjc: Until it was cleared to Thrall.
01:49.00CIA-1103damjau * r32394 10/branches/NextStep/: NextStep -
01:49.03WerikMust have been a long durnhole run.
01:49.05mjccan stand up at the top and have a rogue go to the bombs while hunter pulls then ?
01:49.17vhaarrWerik: Maybe if you play with a nub hunter.
01:49.19NightHawkTheSanei did it reasonably well with a druid and warrior tanking as needed, mostly on the pats
01:49.46mjcwe have two druids rogue with imp sap and priest
01:49.51mjcboth druids feral
01:49.59mjcthe lookouts are wiping our anuses
01:50.10Werikthats 4 :P
01:50.23vhaarryou need to pull them far away somehow, and a hunter is the best way to do that :)
01:50.26NightHawkTheSaneyeah, whos the 5th :P
01:50.34mjchunter
01:50.34mjcduh
01:50.57vhaarryou are lacking in CC though, a mage or warlock would be better
01:51.03NightHawkTheSaneyeah, probably.
01:51.27mjcpet pulling
01:51.29mjc:P
01:51.30vhaarrif you pull everything outside the keep, you can fear 24/7
01:52.02NightHawkTheSanecan you freeze trap the lookout? i forget..
01:52.02hugoif the lock dont die without food n water for 7days :P
01:52.21vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: they are immune to all CC, afaik.
01:52.32vhaarrI only did the instance once on heroic just to try it, don't need anything there anyway.
01:52.34mjcwe got one
01:52.36mjcand wiped ;P
01:52.47Werikjust single pull the lookout and kill them
01:52.56NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: yeah, i thought so, its been a while, though
01:53.02vhaarrindeed
01:53.23NightHawkTheSaneWhen I did it once, I (warrior) tanked the two adds and the feral druid tanked the lookout and dog, and it worked more-or-less well enough
01:53.45mjcwe get raped by the adds heh
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01:53.48vhaarrI just remember we ran in like on normal and those pats chained insane amounts of mobs or whatever, so we figured we'd just pull them far out to utilize our fear CC.
01:53.56NightHawkTheSaneI think I'm going to give up any hope of getting my desolation piece from that on my shammy
01:54.06mjcI have 16khp and 24k armor and MT about the same... twoshotted
01:54.23mjcwe got one armed tho
01:55.13vhaarrthink we were druid tank, hunter, priest, warlock and shadow priest
01:55.20vhaarrso fear galore
01:55.25NightHawkTheSanenice
01:55.31NightHawkTheSaneprobably a good group for that instance, actually
01:55.32mjcer one shotted
01:55.34mjcnot one armed :p
01:55.37vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: yeah it was
01:55.42WerikYou can walk baaaack to the northeast part of the keep, and jump down. you can pull and fear all day long there
01:55.44vhaarronce we realised we should pull stuff to the entrance
01:56.06mjcaha
01:56.08mjcnice
01:56.38NightHawkTheSaneI really think the lookouts are just a pain in the ass and poorly thought out
01:56.41vhaarrwell our hunter doesn't suck, so pulling it worked fine
01:57.46mjcwe got agg before the hunter FD'd this time :p
02:00.12cynyr_sounds like a job for a pally tank
02:00.15CIA-1103roartindon * r32396 10Aloft/Extras/ (AloftFu.lua AloftWaterfall.lua):
02:00.16CIA-11Aloft
02:00.16CIA-11- Added Shift-Click to open configuration similar to oRA2/BigWigs/etc
02:00.16CIA-11- Waterfall configuration will work without dewdrop
02:01.28NightHawkTheSanecynyr_: doubt a pally would have any particular advantage there.
02:01.51vhaarrin CoT Durnholde? not at all.
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02:02.56cynyr_idk our main pally tank has 99% avoidance with holy shield up.. and if they hit that hard it sounds like a good thing to me
02:03.12NightHawkTheSaneblock isnt exactly real avoidance
02:03.41CIA-1103next96 * r32397 10/branches/NextStep/ (NextStep.lua NextStep.toc):
02:03.41CIA-11NextStep :
02:03.42CIA-11- first releases
02:03.42CIA-11- Faction item count
02:03.49cynyr_true, all i know is he takes very very little dmg even in a heroic,
02:04.19Werikuntil, a naga silences him
02:04.23NightHawkTheSaneI'd be hard pressed to believe he takes significantly less than a comparably geared bear or warrior
02:04.49NightHawkTheSanenot to imply he's a bad tank, or pallies suck at tanking, to be sure
02:05.05vhaarrTaking less damage isn't the same as being better; taking a predictable amount of damage is way better than taking burst damage.
02:05.23CIA-1103damjau 07libs * r32398 10NextStep/: NextStep -
02:06.12DiaoPally tanks have a bug that makes them worse tanks than both druids and warriors atm
02:06.17cynyr_vhaarr: true, and idk our gruul geared wars seems to take more dmg than he does, granted it is predictable most of the time
02:06.28vhaarr~idk
02:06.40vhaarr~whalecrit purl
02:06.41purlACTION crits purl with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. purl dies
02:06.42hyperChipmunk~wtf idk
02:06.49hyperChipmunk=)
02:06.58hyperChipmunksmoov, purl
02:07.02cynyr_Diao: maybe for single mob tanking.. but they are the only class i have seen tank 10+ mobs at once, we 1 tank illhoof
02:07.18DiaoIf they cast judgement/seal/consecration/etc, they have zero block chance until their next weapon swing :(
02:07.18vhaarr"I don't know our gruul geared wars seems .." it doesn't make sense
02:07.23vhaarrdoes it actually mean "I don't know"?
02:07.27hyperChipmunkyes
02:07.30vhaarrheh
02:07.32vhaarrcynyr_: lern2write
02:08.17cynyr_vhaarr: yep /cry
02:08.23Werikseal doesnt sheat your weapon
02:09.30Werikneither does judgement
02:09.43hugonight everyone
02:10.35hyperChipmunkcya
02:10.51cynyr_vhaarr: Our gruul geared warriors seem to take more dmg than he does, granted it is predictable most of the time --fixed
02:11.18vhaarrcynyr_: yes, that's what I'm saying :)
02:11.30mjcvhaarr: thanks, we're stealth and hunter pulling
02:11.36vhaarrmjc: working?
02:12.00cynyr_vhaarr: although i have seen our warriors go from 15k hp to dead in about 3 seconds
02:12.16mjcyep 3/4, working on 4th
02:12.18mjc3/5
02:12.27vhaarrcynyr_: That can happen to your precious paladin, too.
02:13.27mjcvhaarr: lol his pet must hate him now
02:13.30DiaoHm
02:13.34vhaarrmjc: :P
02:13.46DiaoWerik: Strange, all paladins in the bug report thread reported that all instant cast abilities for paladins cause weapon sheathing
02:13.47vhaarrmjc: our hunter pulled with aspect of the cheetah :P
02:14.06mjcwe're standing up top and I guess he's sending pet inover nad over
02:14.17vhaarrwe were at the front gates
02:14.26cynyr_vhaarr: i know
02:14.35WerikWell, they don't
02:14.55DiaoJudgement and such just activate autoattack
02:15.05Diaoso it unsteathes it after it's cast if you're in range
02:15.08mjcweapon cooldown
02:15.09Diaosheathes*
02:15.23WerikI'm a paladin since release, so you can believe me, seal and judgement wont sheate your weapon:)
02:15.26hyperChipmunkweak; i do the bombs before the group even gets to the zone, then pull drake when they get there
02:15.37mjche's on my rogue
02:15.37cynyr_vhaarr: just saying in most multi mob situations i would rather have a pally
02:15.40Werikconsecration will indeed
02:15.41mjcI'm on my druid
02:15.46CIA-1103damjau * r32399 10/branches/NextStep/ (. NextStep.lua libs/): NextStep:
02:15.47mjche's used to a 65 heh
02:16.27DiaoYeah, I had forgotten that Judgement starts your autoattack when I tested it yesterday, so I just ran up and judged a mob without autoattack active.
02:16.27DiaoIf you don't have autoattack active, it'll immediately bring your weapons out, but if you do, it does indeed put them on your back for a second.
02:16.41CIA-1103damjau * r32400 10NextStep/: NextStep:
02:17.01hyperChipmunksomebody stab damjau in the eye
02:17.29hyperChipmunki'ma friggin' delete his dir until he learns to write a commit message
02:18.33Werikjudgement doesnt put your weapons on your back
02:18.42mjcvhaarr: ok we spawned the boss but didn't kill mobs, now what lol
02:18.42Werikperiod :)
02:18.56hyperChipmunkpull the boss and kill him
02:19.26hyperChipmunkhyperactiveChipmunk * r32401 NextStep: (3 files, 2 directories removed):
02:19.39mjche spawned and we couldn't shoot him til he ran down the platform
02:19.54hyperChipmunkyea
02:20.08hyperChipmunkyou can pull him past everything outside thefront gate
02:20.13Diaowell anyway
02:20.20DiaoDoes anyone use Prat and DreamChat together?
02:20.48hyperChipmunkdunno why you guys went inside
02:21.06mjcwe didn't, rogue did
02:21.17hyperChipmunkwell, you said he ran past you
02:21.25mjcyeah, down the stairs
02:21.26mjcwe're up top
02:21.31hyperChipmunkthen you're inside =P
02:21.43mjc?
02:21.57hyperChipmunkhe runs out of the keep
02:22.23hyperChipmunkif he passed you, you're between the keep and the camps
02:22.34hyperChipmunki.e. inside the gate
02:23.09mjcaha
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02:23.33mjche's running around down below us and we're standing on the bridge atm :p
02:23.45mjclookin nlike nubs
02:24.19hyperChipmunkyea, the hunter should have taken care of the bombs and let you guys kill the front guard and the four bridge guys, then brought drake out front
02:24.41mjcok,we can still kill the first group I guess
02:24.44mjcif we odn't get owned
02:24.58hyperChipmunkit's a 1 pull and 2 2-pulls
02:25.26hyperChipmunkif you're pullin' guys up from the camps, you're doing something wrong
02:25.39mjcwe'd have to do that at this point
02:26.02hyperChipmunkwhy?
02:26.12mjcwe're all up top, where elses do we go :p
02:26.33hyperChipmunknowhere, just pull drake through 'em
02:26.48mjcaha
02:26.49mjcgood call
02:27.07hyperChipmunki stand on that first thing right of the bridge and shoot him
02:27.13hyperChipmunkhe hugs the wall and nothing adds
02:28.42mjck, thanks ofr being understanding heh
02:30.00hyperChipmunknp; i only play with a few friends.  figured it was common practice, since you did bring a hunter
02:30.50mjcnah this is all five of us' first time
02:31.11hyperChipmunkbut i'll admit that i did figure it out completely on my own, and i've no idea what other people do
02:31.14mjche pulled 4 taht time
02:31.19mjcdid exactly that
02:31.26hyperChipmunkso it's possible (though unlikely) that i'm the only one
02:31.35hyperChipmunkyea, takes a bit of work to get the right spot
02:31.41hyperChipmunkyou just feign and try next pass
02:32.46hyperChipmunkthere's the wall next to the bridge, with that structural support  | B |---[ ]----/
02:32.55hyperChipmunkthe support has a little peak on it
02:33.15hyperChipmunkyou shoot him and back up just to the other side of the peak
02:33.45hyperChipmunkand he'll go to the wall and right past all the dude's standing outside
02:34.00mjcalright
02:34.02syerenSomeone give me a Demonoid Invitation Code please :(
02:34.52hyperChipmunkand for future reference, you can also plant the bombs from the other side of teh walls =)
02:35.06mjcwe did that
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02:36.05mjche didn't hug the wall taht time
02:36.29ckknighthey all
02:36.53mjchyperChipmunk: we shot him when he was between bunkers 3 and 4
02:37.00mjche kinda spazzed out for a second
02:37.16hyperChipmunki shoot him right before he goes under the bridge
02:37.16mjcthen he ran straight to the mobs
02:37.21hyperChipmunkas he passes by
02:37.51hyperChipmunkthat's why you do it with a hunter =)
02:38.12mjche is a hunter heh
02:38.14mjc:p
02:38.16hyperChipmunkyep
02:38.33mjcgot adds again
02:38.38mjcbah
02:38.41mjcthis is annoying
02:38.43hyperChipmunkso you just fd and try again; ideally, it's something he already knows how to do, but there's a first time for everyone
02:38.58hyperChipmunkyea, i learned it on my own
02:39.10hyperChipmunkdidn't have to annoy anyone
02:41.05hyperChipmunkif you do it right, he'll go straight to teh wall
02:41.09mjcworked
02:41.13mjcno
02:41.15mjcnvm
02:41.24hyperChipmunksometimes he'll be funny and run to the middle right before he gets to the stairs, but that's just occasionally
02:41.31mjcnm he feigned and the adds left
02:41.37hyperChipmunkis that what happened?
02:42.07mjcyep
02:42.16hyperChipmunkif he does that, you're doing it right; just got unlucky
02:42.16mjcthen we got pwnt by his whirlwind because we're nubfaces
02:42.22hyperChipmunkrofl
02:43.33hyperChipmunkbasically, it seems like a 25% chance that he does the wonky run-to-the-middle thing, based on exactly where you stand
02:43.49hyperChipmunkjust take a step one direction or the other and try again, and he should be fine
02:52.45ckknightone big issue with working on raid grouping is that I have to find raid members.
02:52.48ckknightwhich is lame.
02:53.37mjcraidN ?
02:56.57CIA-1103ckknight * r32401 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make modifier-leftclick also target by default.
02:57.05NightHawkTheSaneobnoxious challenge 187: playing a castlevania game without being able to see your position on the map.
02:57.37hyperChipmunkwhere's the pitbull update where it un-jacks-up my fonts?
03:00.06cynyr_hmm patch 2.0.1 didn't fix the out of space thing.. and the drives seem to be setup properly
03:05.27xyusdf
03:05.31CIA-1103damjau * r32402 10NextStep/: NextStep:
03:05.48hyperChipmunk@#$!% i am going to kill that guy
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03:06.02xyustaypuff marshmellow man?
03:06.18hyperChipmunkmister no-comment guy
03:07.22hyperChipmunkhe's a damjau
03:07.50CIA-1103damjau * r32403 10/branches/NextStep/ (. NextStep.toc): NextStep:
03:07.50hyperChipmunki hate those damjaus!
03:08.17Unrealiiwhy you hate damjau?
03:08.35hyperChipmunkbecause he doesn't comment his commits
03:08.47Unrealiiah
03:09.06CIA-1103damjau * r32404 10NextStep/: NextStep: first release
03:09.13mjcabout time nub
03:09.17mjc~seen damjau
03:09.42purldamjau <i=________@58.77.154.21> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 163d 20h 24m 23s ago, saying: 'sorry... TT'.
03:09.42Unrealii^^;;;
03:09.42mjcah
03:09.42mjcheh
03:09.49hyperChipmunkrofl
03:18.20CIA-1103damjau * r32405 10NextStep/NextStep.toc: NextStep:fix .toc note
03:18.50mjcUnrealii: nub, finally
03:24.31cynyr_grr stupid wow installer...
03:26.32Arrowmasteranybody have any idea what mod uses the addon channel prefix of DTMR
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03:32.57CIA-11BigWigs:
03:32.57CIA-11SC/Morogrim: adjusted timers. Closer, but not quite perfect yet.
03:39.54CIA-1103damjau * r32407 10cyCircled/plugins/AspectBar.lua:
03:39.54CIA-11cyCircled:
03:39.55CIA-11correct AspectBar plugin.
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03:59.31mjcPeople don't come to church for preachments, of course, but to daydream about God.
04:00.14mjcVonnegut, 1922-2007
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04:04.17DiaoDoes anyone use dreamchat and prat together?
04:07.18mjcAny reviewer who expresses rage and loathing for a novel is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
04:08.17NightHawkTheSanei dont know what kind of hot fudge sundae's YOU'RE eating, but i wouldn't come within 50 feet of one without a full suit of armor. *nod*
04:08.29mjcalso vonnegut
04:08.29mjc:)
04:08.45NightHawkTheSaneyeah, ive heard that one. :)
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04:26.47xyuGoDDDSFLSDKF Jsdlk fuck priests and their stun resist :(
04:27.05chutwigdeep breath
04:27.08chutwigwould you like some whisky
04:27.16xyuvodka if you have
04:27.18xyukthx!
04:27.22chutwigi spent 70 bucks on a huge jug today that's going to last me about 3 months
04:27.29chutwigi do but it's just smirnoff left over from new year's
04:27.32xyu5 o'clock?
04:27.33chutwigi just mix it
04:27.35xyu:P
04:27.53xyuWIld turkey?
04:27.58xyuthat's a good whisky!
04:28.02chutwigfffft
04:28.03chutwigglenlivet
04:28.50xyui'm just kidding wild turkey is the kind of whisky that comes in plastic bottles
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04:37.01pastamancerchutwig: caol ila
04:44.15ckknightoh man, to add in the raid frames support, I have to refactor so much :-(
04:46.05kenlyricthen fudgem
04:46.22kenlyricif something is hard, it's not worth doing.
04:46.26ckknightyea, basically the whole unit thing flies out the window
04:46.37ckknightdue to shufflings
04:46.50xyuIs starfire stun a talent point?
04:46.54hyperChipmunkyes
04:47.09xyusimilar to impact?
04:47.11xyublackout etc
04:47.15hyperChipmunkckknight: yea, i've worked with them before; there are no end to the headaches
04:47.15ckknightoh well, I'll get through this :-P
04:47.20hyperChipmunkdude, look at a talent calc
04:48.05xyuin an arena was easier to ask
04:48.18hyperChipmunkah
04:48.48hyperChipmunki'd just plug 'improved starfire' into a search engine
04:49.15hyperChipmunkah, that's not it =)
04:50.03hyperChipmunkcelestial focus, 15pt req, 3 ranks 5/10/15%
04:50.11hyperChipmunkbalance tree
04:52.15ckknightlol
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04:56.44xyuwhat is Europe's armory URL?
04:57.18hyperChipmunkeurope sux so it doesn't get one
04:57.30hyperChipmunkaha, my favorite person
04:57.33hyperChipmunkhello, JJSheets
04:57.37JJSheetshiya.
04:57.44hyperChipmunkwhy do i have 490 errors?
04:57.46JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: i thought i was your favorite person :-(
04:57.48JJSheetsI have a question about the spells you are using.
04:58.04hyperChipmunki hate your guts JoshBorke
04:58.05JJSheetsI don't know... what are the errors?  :p
04:58.21JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: so that means i am your favorite?  awesome!
04:58.26mjchyperChipmunk: so we gave up on getting the boss dead lol
04:58.33hyperChipmunkweak dude
04:58.41JJSheetsoh wait, I know this one... because InfiniBar is buggy as all fucking hell?
04:59.07JJSheetsgive me line numbers and errors.
04:59.15hyperChipmunk[2007/04/12 00:00:57-2040-x1]: InfiniBar-1.0\IB_Standard.lua:1408: IsCurrentCast(): Invalid spell slot
04:59.18hyperChipmunkInfiniBar-1.0\IB_Standard.lua:1408: in function `HighlightAutoCasting'
04:59.34hyperChipmunk[2007/04/12 00:00:59-2040-x57]: InfiniBar-1.0\IB_Standard.lua:1499: attempt to compare two nil values
04:59.50hyperChipmunkInfiniBar-1.0\IB_Standard.lua:1408: IsCurrentCast(): Invalid spell slot
05:00.05JJSheetsanything else?
05:00.12hyperChipmunkmore of the same
05:00.15JJSheetsk
05:00.21JJSheetssame line numbers at least?
05:00.24hyperChipmunkwith different stack traces
05:00.25hyperChipmunkyea
05:00.27JJSheetsk
05:00.48JJSheetsthat's one of my many attempts to figure out why some cooldowns work perfectly and others not.
05:00.51JJSheetsnow...
05:00.57JJSheetswhat spells do you have
05:01.04hyperChipmunkuh, all of them?
05:01.06JJSheetsone was frost nova..
05:01.13JJSheetsor was that Ominous...
05:01.14hyperChipmunkone was volley
05:01.19hyperChipmunkone was steady shot
05:01.24hyperChipmunkhunters don't have frost nova
05:01.28hyperChipmunkretard
05:02.10JJSheets>.<  I know... I'm trying to track down what kinds of spells are causing the buggyness so I can duplicate them with characters I already have...
05:02.38hyperChipmunkall of them?
05:03.12JJSheetsnot just yet...
05:03.33hyperChipmunkno, i mean it happens with all of them p=
05:03.36hyperChipmunkhm
05:03.45hyperChipmunklooks like it isn't happening when there's one already going
05:04.05JJSheetsfor now it would suffice to find out if the bugged ones all are instant cast, have a longish cooldown, and trigger gcd.
05:04.14hyperChipmunkbut to get one going to start it, you have to page
05:04.18hyperChipmunkhm, n/m
05:04.57hyperChipmunki've done it with toggle cast, instant cast, targetted AE, 24s/30s/60s/global cooldown, non-global cooldown
05:05.32hyperChipmunkseems like it's okay, once you've paged a bit
05:06.03JJSheetsit should be okay after doing nothing special at all...
05:06.23hyperChipmunknow it worked right after reload
05:06.37hyperChipmunkgonna give you a blow-by-blow
05:06.39hyperChipmunkreloaded UI
05:06.52hyperChipmunkdropped frost trap with non-page hotkey
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05:08.22hyperChipmunkglobal cooldown and trap cooldown activated
05:08.30hyperChipmunkswitched to page 4, pushed 1 to drop a freeze trap, global cooldown cycled, trap cooldown did not
05:08.59hyperChipmunkpaged away and back, and the trap cooldown was in progress
05:09.08JJSheetstraps are timed casts right (been a while since I mucked with my hunter)
05:09.33hyperChipmunkbut the trap button that's not on a paged bar still not registering the cooldown
05:09.36hyperChipmunkno
05:09.38hyperChipmunkinstant
05:09.50JJSheetsk
05:10.04hyperChipmunkinstant, activate global cooldown, shared 24s (30 w/o talents) cooldown
05:10.43JJSheetswhen functioning correctly, it should only ever show the trap cooldown on traps, correct?
05:10.57JJSheetswhen placing traps I mean...
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05:11.09hyperChipmunkright
05:11.13JJSheetsk
05:11.15hyperChipmunkyou lay one trap, they all spin for 24s
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05:11.40JJSheetsand you activate gcd on a spell that isn't a trap, and they spin for the gcd.
05:11.53JJSheetsare you at least seeing OmniCC stuff correctly?
05:11.55hyperChipmunkright
05:12.04hyperChipmunknot on atm
05:12.07JJSheetsk
05:12.20hyperChipmunkjust enabled it; reloading
05:12.21JJSheetsno big deal... but I think I have that weirdness fixed...
05:12.41hyperChipmunkgood
05:12.49hyperChipmunkthen i don't care about your cyclies =)
05:13.05JJSheetswell, no... you will care... :)
05:13.12JJSheetsOmniCC depends on cyclies.
05:13.14JJSheetslol
05:13.24hyperChipmunkyou're right
05:13.26hyperChipmunki hate you
05:13.29JJSheetslol
05:13.34hyperChipmunkat least my instants aren't on cooldowns anymore
05:13.54JJSheets:)
05:14.00hyperChipmunki suppose that's an improvement
05:14.36hyperChipmunkokay
05:15.54hyperChipmunkif i drop a trap with the paged bar, then cast something else (whether or not that cast activates the global cooldawn), the traps cooldowns re-sync up
05:16.18hyperChipmunkbut if that spell is on the same bar and has a cooldown, it won't register that one
05:17.06hyperChipmunki dropped a trap, then cast flare 10s later from the same bar (15s cooldown on that one), and the traps flipped to 14s left, but the flare button didn't start
05:17.25JJSheetso.O
05:17.46JJSheetsyou still getting those funky errors too?
05:17.54hyperChipmunknot this time, actually
05:19.23hyperChipmunkseems like when it's on a paged bar, everything gets checked and updated for cooldown except for the spell you just cast
05:20.01hyperChipmunkhm, scratch the paged-bar part
05:20.24CIA-1103jjsheets * r32408 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - YAPFFWCD, also removed the IsCurrentCast code...
05:20.40hyperChipmunkalso, when i cast readiness (clear all cooldowns), they don't recognize it =P
05:20.46JJSheetstry that... not certain it'll fix it, but you shouldn't ever get those errors again...
05:21.01CIA-1103roartindon * r32409 10Aloft/ (14 files in 3 dirs): Aloft: Added SetAll module, which allows you to set all fonts, textures and font sizes in Aloft with a single click
05:21.24JJSheetshey, besides the flickering... when I was updating constantly the cooldowns were accurate, right?  :p
05:21.43hyperChipmunki dunno; i saw the flickering and turned it off
05:21.49JJSheetsheh
05:21.51hyperChipmunkwant me to revert my local?
05:21.57JJSheetsnah
05:22.04JJSheetsflickering sucks.
05:22.26hyperChipmunkyea, no help on the c/ds
05:22.42JJSheetsthat last commit didn't do anything huh?
05:22.58hyperChipmunkthe one that does work is FD
05:23.13hyperChipmunkwhen i get up from FD, the 30s timer starts like it should
05:23.49JJSheetsthe good news... I'm finally reproducing the bug.
05:24.24hyperChipmunkdas vely vely gud
05:24.33JJSheetsyes indeedy.
05:24.58hyperChipmunkdo you know why, or did it just start happening? >8)
05:25.36JJSheetsI put an instant cast w/ cooldown spell in that also activates gcd.
05:26.07JJSheetsessentially I'm messing with my Pally now and hammer of justice.
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05:26.13hyperChipmunkalso, i don't notice the page-flip stutter at all, anymore, especially during normal play, and there's no discernable memory increase
05:26.24hyperChipmunkoh, well 2kb/s
05:26.29sylvanaarcan someone answer a library making question?
05:26.34hyperChipmunkearlier it wasn't showing any =P
05:26.35JJSheetstoday at work I did a massive redesign of the basic update code.
05:27.00JJSheetshad nothing better to do... so I figured I'd at least dry code that. :)
05:27.02hyperChipmunksylvanaar: won't know until you ask it, eh?
05:27.05hyperChipmunk=D
05:27.07JJSheetslol
05:27.26sylvanaarif a library is a mixin, what is the scope of the data it sets in its activate function
05:27.53CIA-1103roartindon * r32410 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Fix for nameplates not appearing on login properly if they were previously enabled at logout
05:28.22JJSheetslol
05:28.23ckknightcurses!
05:28.25ckknightI was so close!
05:29.32sylvanaaris it shared accross all addons which use the lib as a mixin?
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05:30.15hyperChipmunkckknight can answer that after he's done getting his raidIDs back in-order
05:30.31hyperChipmunklittle does he know, i will only re-shuffle them again
05:30.33JJSheetspriorities, y'know.
05:30.42ckknightsylvanaar: the activate function will only be called once
05:31.10sylvanaarstatic data
05:34.45sylvanaarim trying to make PratPlugin-1.0, im using FubarPlugin-2.0 as a model, any other suggestions?
05:36.01sylvanaarare you a druid?
05:36.07NightHawkTheSaneshaman
05:36.12sylvanaarok
05:36.14sylvanaardo it
05:36.36NightHawkTheSanelol, but you wouldnt have said that if i was a druid? :P
05:36.47Brunersa pratplugin ?
05:37.42JJSheetsI predict you'll be bandage my head shortly.
05:37.51hyperChipmunki hope so
05:37.56JJSheetsuntil you find something else to bug report.  :)
05:38.01hyperChipmunki'm ready and willing, bandages in hand
05:38.10sylvanaarno
05:38.22hyperChipmunkgimme a reason to, and i'll fix you up real nice
05:38.31NightHawkTheSane"fix you up"
05:38.35NightHawkTheSanelike you "fix" a cat?
05:38.42hyperChipmunksh
05:38.45JJSheetshellllllll no.
05:38.46sylvanaari hated resto in tbc
05:38.52JJSheetsI ain't commiting now.
05:39.04JJSheetsI AIN'T getting that kind of fixed...
05:39.05JJSheetslol
05:39.15hyperChipmunkk, then i goin' bed
05:39.30CIA-1103jjsheets * r32411 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - YAPFFWCD, the (hopefully) Final Chapter.
05:39.32hyperChipmunki wanted to go earlier, but then you logged in
05:39.36NightHawkTheSaneand thus, InfiniBar development strangely stops dead
05:39.40hyperChipmunkthat's the spirit
05:40.13hyperChipmunklike a hyperactiveChipmunk, one might say
05:40.17JJSheetsindeed.
05:40.23hyperChipmunkalas for you, i know all the tricks
05:40.39JJSheetsless talk, more testing.
05:40.42hyperChipmunkalso alas for you
05:40.49hyperChipmunk...i just did
05:41.24JJSheetsHow??? I'm capturing EVERY SINGLE COOLDOWN event...
05:41.53hyperChipmunkit at least updates with every attempted cast
05:42.18hyperChipmunkhow about the spell cast event =x
05:43.02JJSheetsit's still bugging on traps for you?  or a different spell?
05:43.13hyperChipmunktried volley too
05:43.43hyperChipmunkyou did make the improvement though
05:43.52JJSheetshell I captured every single event that wowiki said anything about cooldowns with...
05:44.03hyperChipmunkit now updates with failed spellcasts in addition to successful ones
05:45.00NightHawkTheSanecant you just see how other bar mods do it?
05:45.14NightHawkTheSaneoh wait, they use action ids, and you don't, right? sorry.. ><
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05:45.26JJSheetsI'd assume they rely on Blizzard code and actionids.  :)
05:45.41NightHawkTheSaneyeah, that occurred to me mere moments after i hit return :)
05:45.46JJSheetsheh
05:46.05hyperChipmunkthey still ought to look for events, no?
05:46.39sylvanaarare there any examples of turning an acemodulecore module into a mixin? is this even a good way to go? should i use containment/delegation for the actual module object?
05:46.52JJSheetsif they're using blizzard's actionbarbutton template that combines secure template with the action button template, then I think it's all contained in there...
05:47.09JJSheetsI oughtta look in that code...
05:47.13[A]v[P]anyone knows what i am getting this error :\
05:47.15[A]v[P]Surface-1.0-30642 (BigWigs):54: attempt to call method 'TriggerEvent' (a nil value)Surface-1.0-30642 (BigWigs):139: in main chunk
05:48.17Funkeh`delete yuor bigwigs folders and install clean with wau1.7 fixes everything
05:48.49NightHawkTheSaneBleh, i need better elemental gear. only 463 dmg.
05:49.03hyperChipmunkJJSheets: are you using fireshow to see what events are all called when you press a button?
05:49.20JJSheetsno... but now you mention it, I'm going to...
05:49.27[A]v[P]you mean wowace updater funkeh?
05:49.29hyperChipmunkit would seem easier to just figure out what ones happen every  time and use those
05:49.58xlviidoes anyone know where i can find high quality album art?
05:50.33JJSheetsfireshow on svn.wowace?
05:50.48hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/FireShow.zip
05:50.49hyperChipmunkuse that one
05:50.52hyperChipmunkhave Ace installed
05:51.05JJSheetsas in not ace2?
05:51.10hyperChipmunkright
05:51.16hyperChipmunkit's set to ChatFrame5; you can modify that in the code
05:51.25hyperChipmunkmight want to add all the new events too
05:51.29JJSheetsI think I do... not sure if I have it enabled... :)
05:51.51hyperChipmunki think there's a full list on wowwiki
05:51.54hyperChipmunki'll do that now
05:51.54ckknightAceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):RegisterAllEvents(function(...) AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintComma(AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0").currentEvent, ...) end)
05:51.56hyperChipmunkbeen meaning to
05:51.56ckknightthere.
05:52.03hyperChipmunklol
05:52.09hyperChipmunki forgeot about that one
05:52.21hyperChipmunkyea i suppose that works too
05:52.53hyperChipmunkk forget fireshow
05:52.58hyperChipmunkjust script that in
05:53.29hyperChipmunklol
05:53.40hyperChipmunkdude you spam IB_OverlayUpdate so fast i can't see any others
05:53.59JJSheetsit should only happen twice a second...
05:54.04JJSheetsbut...
05:54.06hyperChipmunk...
05:54.10JJSheetsmy track record sux...
05:54.22hyperChipmunkthat's still far too often for an event =x
05:54.32hyperChipmunkwell
05:54.45hyperChipmunki guess that's what we get for replacing metrognome with repeating events
05:55.19Funkeh`[A]v[P]: yes i do
05:56.28CIA-1103adirelle * r32412 10CastYeller/announces/druid.lua:
05:56.28CIA-11CastYeller:
05:56.28CIA-11- added funny Innervate whispers (thanks to Arzach).
05:56.52hyperChipmunki think it's funny
05:57.04hyperChipmunkyour addon stymies its own development efforts
05:57.18JJSheets-.-
05:57.20hyperChipmunkyou'll haev to turn it off if you want to have a prayer of getting any useful data
05:57.50hyperChipmunkwhich reminds me
05:58.18hyperChipmunkunchecking Enable does nothing except hide the fubar icon
05:58.46JJSheetsremind me about that one later.  :p
05:59.13[A]v[P]funkeh: thanks :)
05:59.17hyperChipmunkand then gives nice errors about acedb when you reload next
05:59.32CIA-1103adirelle * r32413 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua:
05:59.32CIA-11Cartographer_Mining:
05:59.32CIA-11- fixed outland rare nodes,
05:59.32CIA-11- properly handle received rare nodes,
05:59.32CIA-11- TIP: use Cartographer_Noteshare to send your database to yourself to fix duplicates.
06:00.58hyperChipmunkInfiniBar-1.0\IB_Core.lua:130: AceDB-2.0: Cannot call "RegisterDB" if self.db is set.
06:01.01hyperChipmunkthat one =)
06:01.25hyperChipmunkbut yea, that's the least of your worries
06:05.58JJSheetsI'm sure the wonderful folks in thunderbluff wonder wtf I'm laying traps for...
06:06.34hyperChipmunkhehe
06:06.50Arrowmastertheres people in thunderbluff?
06:07.01JJSheetslol
06:07.04JJSheetsa couple.
06:07.07hyperChipmunki have a seemingly uncanny tendency to write addons for being dead
06:07.13Arrowmasterother than lowbie cows?
06:07.25hyperChipmunkso i just stand in a gy with a crystal of zin-malor equipped
06:07.33JJSheetsoh you thought I was talking about IMPORTANT people, huh Arrowmaster?
06:07.49hyperChipmunki'm sure that's caused a bit of confusion at times
06:07.55JJSheetslol
06:08.05Arrowmasteri was talking about people that actually had a choice in which city they could goto
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06:08.43Arrowmasterthunderbluff still has problems with dismounting as your moving between the rises
06:12.05[A]v[P]as an alliance player i have never been to thunderbluff more than 3 times
06:13.53JJSheetson a side note, I think I know why IB_OverlayUpdate is firing to fast...
06:13.57JJSheetslol
06:16.01JJSheetswell... fixed that cooldown bug... :p
06:16.18JJSheetsunless there's more... I hope I'm done...
06:16.22hyperChipmunkyou said that last time
06:16.26hyperChipmunkand the time before
06:16.37JJSheetsand the time before, etc.
06:16.43hyperChipmunkand the time--*shuffles ckknight's raidID-player associations--before that...
06:16.48JJSheetslol
06:16.58ckknightmwahaha, hyperChipmunk
06:17.03ckknightyour shuffling no longer matters
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06:17.16ckknightPitBull's being changed to not work with units as keys anymore
06:17.46JJSheetsokay.... I'm fixing my event spam mess up, then committing... I'll find out later if there are any errors... :)
06:18.06[A]v[P]ckknight: why i am getting only 3 layouts in pitbull settings?
06:18.18ckknightbecause that's all there is.
06:18.29[A]v[P]i taught it was using sharemedia :)
06:18.40JJSheetslayouts aren't media?
06:19.15[A]v[P]i have sharedmedia but the layouts are not showing in pitbull
06:19.24hyperChipmunkno layouts in sharedmedia
06:19.32hyperChipmunkstatus bar textures
06:19.37hyperChipmunknot layouts
06:19.46phantomI would like to extend the standard Guild frame .. I'd like to display some additional information per member .. and have a button to do a new action on a member .. I'm thinking something like an anchored tablet may just do the trick .. but I need to make it static and keep it static .. make it show with the "extra info" frame .. and make it update as the selection is changed .. no idea how to do any of that .. would love a point in th
06:20.12ckknightphantom: frankly, I'd just use GuildFu
06:20.14hyperChipmunkdude, take a breath man
06:20.18ckknightand possibly hack that.
06:20.47phantomlol .. I know .. sorta long .. but I tried to get it all in once place instead of fragments =)
06:21.25CIA-1103jjsheets * r32414 10InfiniBar/ (IB_Core.lua IB_Standard.lua): InfiniBar - YAPFFWCD, removed IB_OverlayUpdate spamming event, so some stuff may not update properly until I track down the events to use.
06:21.39phantomok .. forget that for now then .. something simpler maybe ..
06:21.49phantomhow do I .. display a tablet .. for a tablet line ..
06:21.59Noekoeso raid frame s been done? :P
06:22.05JJSheetshyperChipmunk, test that, then I'm going to bed... unless you don't feel like testing... then I'll just go to bed.
06:22.22hyperChipmunkalready reloading
06:22.25ckknightphantom: oh, complex, then. It'd be easier to show a regular tooltip for that. But I was thinking of just adding another column.
06:22.25JJSheetsk
06:23.15phantomckknight: how about poping a dewdrop on click on a line .. should be doable with a func no?
06:23.21hyperChipmunkwell, works from a paged bar
06:23.24ckknightyes, possible.
06:23.41hyperChipmunklooks like it works except for the first one
06:23.44hyperChipmunki can live with that
06:23.48hyperChipmunkgood job =)
06:23.58JJSheetsI can't... but I won't fix it til later...
06:24.01phantomckknight: not possible to have only one column being a func hotspot tho is it?
06:24.03JJSheetswhat spell?  traps?
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06:24.22hyperChipmunkyea
06:24.38hyperChipmunkmay have been a fluke
06:24.40hyperChipmunkin a kite now
06:24.44ckknightphantom: no, you could have the whole line, though
06:24.53phantomckknight: yep I know that ..
06:25.25phantomseems dewdrop wants a frame reference .. how do I give it to it from inside the func?
06:25.33JJSheetswell... drop me a purl message if you find anything else, or figure it's a fluke... I need sleep for my early morning tomorrow.  won't be back til 6pm cst tomorrow/today.
06:25.43JJSheetsnight ya'll
06:25.49CIA-1103funkydude * r32415 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: add some common enrage translations
06:26.54CIA-1103sylvanaar 07PratPlugin-1.0 * r32416 10Prat/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Prat: Attempt at a library for interfacing with Prat from other addons or making external modules
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06:32.27ckknightomfg!
06:32.30ckknightraid grouping!
06:32.31ckknightfinally
06:32.55phantomcan anyone point me towards opening a dewdrop at the mouse?
06:33.23ckknight'cursorX', true, 'cursorY', true
06:33.59phantomon open or register?
06:34.05phantom(not using register)
06:34.06CIA-1103funkydude * r32417 10BigWigs/SC/ (Hydross.lua Karathress.lua Leotheras.lua):
06:34.06CIA-11BigWigs: SC:
06:34.06CIA-11- Hydross, add enrage warnings
06:34.07CIA-11- Karathress, use prototype for enrage
06:34.07CIA-11- Leotheras, use prototype for enrage
06:34.29`-FISKER_Q\yarr vhaarr :(
06:34.55ckknightphantom: hrm... I think you might be able to do it just using open
06:35.12ckknightif you do need to register, just set the parent frame to a string instead of an actual frame.
06:35.55CIA-1103trh * r32418 10VanasKoS/VanasKoS.lua: VanasKoS: bugfix
06:38.51phantom.. great .. tablets have higher strata than dewdrops .. uhm ..
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06:39.58phantomckknight: there wouldn't be an easy way to mess with their strata now would there?
06:39.59ckknightah, yea.
06:40.06ckknightum
06:40.09ckknightnot to my knowledge
06:40.57hyperChipmunkany canadians in the channel atm?
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06:41.36ckknighthyperChipmunk: I am by birth
06:41.39ckknightAmerican now, though
06:41.51phantompita ... I only really want to fire off one action .. but I'd like to make user aware they're making something happen by clicking the tablet line .. heh
06:41.56phantomhyperChipmunk: eh?
06:42.08hyperChipmunkdoesn't count if you're not in CBC's broadcast area
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06:43.13hyperChipmunknhl playoffs started tonight
06:43.22hyperChipmunkthere's still a game going, in triple OT atm
06:43.42phantom.. canadian .. but couldn't care less for hockey =)
06:43.57hyperChipmunkthen you're not canadian
06:44.01hyperChipmunkyou're just from canada
06:44.08phantomlol
06:44.25phantomok .. last question for the night .. honest .. how do I put a tooltip on a tablet line?
06:44.43phantomckknight: you mentioned something about that no?
06:44.54ckknightit's complex
06:45.00phantombah
06:45.06ckknightlook at Cartographer_InstanceLoot or something
06:45.13ckknightI'm busy right now
06:45.24phantomlol .. s'ok .. thanks for all the help man
06:47.00kergothumm i'm trying to think of this old addon i remember, it would dump a list of the average prices of specific items on your shopping list every time you ask it, or do an auctioneer scan
06:47.05kergothanyone recall the name of it?
06:47.30kergothhmm, fizzwidget has a shoppinglist, maybe that was it
06:47.40kergothout of date though
06:48.53hastenever seen
06:49.24ckknightPitBull is actually a lot _more_ stable since this big change
06:49.29ckknightat least in my delusional mind
06:49.55ckknightthat doesn't do anything anymore, hyperChipmunk
06:50.50ckknightwouldn't antishuffling just be sorting?
06:51.05hyperChipmunksee, but i countered it with an anti-antishuffle
06:51.26hyperChipmunkwee, end of 3rd overtime; they've played two full games' worth =x
06:52.07CIA-1103funkydude * r32419 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc SC/BigWigs_SC.toc SC/SCBeta.lua): BigWigs: SC: remove beta
06:53.36ckknightone funny oddity with the new system is that :IterateUnitFrames() can return two frames with the same unit
06:53.46ckknightbut that's just the nature of things
06:53.55ckknightnecessary if you want like a separate MT list
06:54.10hyperChipmunkbut doesn't that make sense?
06:54.32hyperChipmunkif something's your target, focus, and a party member, wouldn't that be what would happen?
06:54.35CIA-1103funkydude * r32420 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua:
06:54.35CIA-11BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon:
06:54.35CIA-11- warn when banish fades
06:54.40ckknightno, hyperChipmunk
06:54.52ckknightas "target" and "focus" are not equal, even though UnitIsUnit("target", "focus")
06:55.07ckknightbut you can have "raid1", which is Bubba the Warrior in the normal raid list
06:55.17ckknightand you can have "raid1", which is Bubba the Warrior in the MT list
06:55.31hyperChipmunklol there's a guy in the stands who's been stacking his beer cups in a pyramid...he's up to 23 =x
06:55.47ckknightlol.
06:55.54hyperChipmunkoh, same unitid
06:55.55hyperChipmunkyea
06:56.17hyperChipmunkthey're updating the count after every overtime period
06:56.27ckknightthat's great
06:56.30ckknightall his beers?
06:56.32hyperChipmunkthey're running out of pre-planned content to fill airtime =)
06:56.36ckknightor his and someone else's?
06:56.36kergothoh, you reworked it to allow creation of multiple unitframes for the same unit?
06:56.40hyperChipmunkhis
06:56.46hyperChipmunkhe's right behind one of the benches
06:56.49ckknightkergoth: it was necessary for raid stuff.
06:56.55hyperChipmunkhe's got them stacked right behind the glass
06:57.01Funkeh`later
06:57.13ckknightkergoth: and it uses the frame itself as the uid instead of the unitid as the uid
06:57.14hyperChipmunkthey go to the video telestrator to count them
06:57.25kergothyeah, i figured you'd end up doing that
06:57.26kergothcool
06:58.05`-FISKER_Q\wtf is mouseover's target? :O
06:58.15hyperChipmunkuh?
06:58.22dottedthe target of the player you mouseover
06:58.36hyperChipmunki show that with tinytip
06:58.48ZealotOnAStickhyperChipmunk: what game?
06:58.57`-FISKER_Q\yeah but as a unitframe? :O
06:58.57hyperChipmunkit's handy to know if someone's targetting you, without targetting them
06:59.04ckknight`-FISKER_Q\: it's there if you want it.
06:59.05Noekoetinytip ftw :p
06:59.13ckknight`-FISKER_Q\: you don't have to use it.
06:59.14hyperChipmunkso you can let them think they're sneaking up on you
06:59.18ckknightbut if you want it, you can have it
06:59.20ckknightno issues
06:59.27hyperChipmunkZealotOnAStick: Dallas @ Vancouver
06:59.33Noekoechoices ftw ;)
06:59.37`-FISKER_Q\not complaining, just wondering :)
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06:59.49ZealotOnAStickAhh.  While it sounds interesting, two teams I don't give a rat's ass about.
06:59.56ZealotOnAStickI suppose the Pens got trashed?
07:00.00hyperChipmunkyea, but dude, quadruple OT
07:00.01hyperChipmunkyep
07:00.10hyperChipmunk6-3, but it wasn't as close as even that
07:01.18ZealotOnASticks/missed/misses/
07:01.47hyperChipmunkpittsburgh scored with like 7m left and 49s left
07:03.40hyperChipmunknashville-san jose was a good one; nashville tied it up with goals with at pretty much the same time as pittsburgh's two late ones, then lost in the second OT
07:04.44ZealotOnAStickI like the Pens, the Coyotes, and the Hurricanes.  Then there are teams which I'll root against on general principle no matter who's playing them.
07:05.35`-FISKER_Q\[2006/04/01 09:05:28-88-x2]: PitBull-r32401\PitBull.lua:1097: bad argument #1 to 'next' (table expected, got nil)
07:05.38`-FISKER_Q\more QQ
07:07.01hyperChipmunkZealotOnAStick: Detroit on that list, perchance?
07:07.41ZealotOnAStickNah, they're ok.  Oilers and Sens . . . and I'm not overly fond of the Miami team.
07:09.33kergothDogTag-1.0-32233 (PitBull):1158: PitBullFontString3:SetText(): Font not set
07:09.34kergothhmm
07:10.04hyperChipmunkdon't do it
07:10.10hyperChipmunkthey jack yer fonts
07:10.29hyperChipmunkthey're no-good dirty font-jackers
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07:14.11kergothand after updating dogtag, i get that error twice instead of once.
07:14.19kergothheh
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07:16.29CIA-1103roartindon * r32421 10Aloft/ (18 files in 3 dirs): Aloft: Aloft now gracefully disables/enables. Some parameters aren't exactly right for non-widescreen users.
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07:19.16kergothi miss having working unitframes
07:19.23hyperChipmunkhehe
07:20.07hyperChipmunkgraphical interface elements are for the weak
07:20.36hyperChipmunk> STATUS
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07:23.43ckknightkergoth: the bug is likely due to the font update
07:24.22hyperChipmunkyou mean the crusade to jack my fonts
07:24.53SunTigerthe burning font crusade ?
07:25.03hyperChipmunkquite so
07:26.46DiaoHm
07:29.38DiaoAfter installing the latest version of Aloft I get an error with Antagonist: [2007/04/12 00:28:33-679-x1]: Surface-1.0-30642 (Antagonist):54: attempt to call method 'TriggerEvent' (a nil value)
07:29.38DiaoSurface-1.0-30642 (Antagonist):139: in main chunk
07:29.55DiaoLibrary conflict?
07:31.45hyperChipmunkGOAL
07:31.49hyperChipmunklol
07:32.18hyperChipmunk2m left in 4th OT
07:32.24hyperChipmunkfinally, i can go to bed =P
07:32.48Roartindon_Diao: r32421?
07:33.56DiaoYeah
07:34.38CIA-1103roartindon * r32422 10Aloft/ (17 files in 2 dirs): Aloft: Disabling aloft now disables all of the module options
07:35.06kergothi dont get it, this error makes it seem like a fontstring is getting into the dogtag registry via registerfontstring, yet hasnt had setfont() done on it.. yet every pitbull module that registers a fontstring does set the font
07:35.07Roartindon_Diao: Got a stack trace? (paste from buggrabber?)
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07:35.31hyperChipmunkit's because they hate your fonts
07:35.35kergoth:(
07:35.42Diao1 sec, that was paste from bugsack
07:35.42hyperChipmunkand they want them to die
07:36.01ckknightkergoth: if not frame:GetFontObject() then AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print(debugstack(), '---') end
07:36.06ckknightstick that right before the error
07:36.08ckknightor something
07:36.17ckknightor print the fontstring
07:36.21ckknightor the code on the fontstring
07:37.07sylvanaarwhen did all the libs get Lib: in their names?
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07:38.13DiaoRoartindon_: It says antagonist error, but here's the c/p
07:38.14Diao[2007/04/12 00:28:33-679-x1]: Surface-1.0-30642 (Antagonist):54: attempt to call method 'TriggerEvent' (a nil value)
07:38.14DiaoSurface-1.0-30642 (Antagonist):139: in main chunk
07:38.17Brunersckknight: how is it going with pitbul's raidframes?
07:38.23ckknightvery well, actually
07:38.30CIA-1103sylvanaar * r32423 10Prat/extras/PratWaterfall.lua: Prat: Added /prat waterfall, as a console command
07:38.31Brunerssounds good
07:38.32ckknighthuge change, actually
07:38.35ckknightsylvanaar: I did that.
07:38.44ckknightsylvanaar: it bothered me before, so I just changed em all
07:40.46ckknightone issue with this whole secure raid header thing is that I don't know how I'd do the config mode
07:41.07mitch0better commit than vommit
07:41.08hyperChipmunkpreferably without 30 aura frames for each one
07:41.18CIA-1103sylvanaar 07PratPlugin-1.0 * r32424 10Prat/ (. PratPlugin-1.0/PratPlugin-1.0.lua): PratPlugin-1.0: Further additions mostly to the api for external frames
07:41.24ckknightthat has nothing to do with my problem, hyperChipmunk
07:41.30hyperChipmunki know
07:41.37hyperChipmunkbut the point needs to be made >8p
07:42.01hyperChipmunkfriggin group config mode nearly brought down my computer
07:43.56[A]v[P]roartindon_: did you get my error i pasted for aloft?
07:44.25ZealotOnAStickNow, I don't know if what I'm about to suggest is possible, or if it is, how difficult it'd be, but . . .
07:44.30Roartindon_avp: repaste?
07:44.32Roartindon_didn't see it before
07:44.36ZealotOnAStickckknight: can you determine the resolution
07:44.40ZealotOnAStickbah
07:44.58ckknightum, yes?
07:45.29ZealotOnAStickckknight: can you determine the resolution (or at least worldframe) size, and display the raid frames with a default of 8x5 grouping split into equal distances from center?
07:45.47[A]v[P]roartindon_: removed the addon now...does bugsack keep a log?
07:45.54ckknightwouldn't that cover your screen?
07:46.19Roartindon_Only if you set it to save between sessions
07:46.24ZealotOnAStickAnd then probably allow for some different layout groupings similar to what Grid has - by class, by group 10, 20, 25, 40, and just a "put things wherever the hell you feel like" mode?
07:46.46Roartindon_I just tested aloft with zero other addons enabled, and it works fine with no errors
07:47.01Roartindon_Going to grab antagonist and see what it does
07:47.12CIA-1103sylvanaar * r32425 10Prat/modules/UrlCopy.lua: Prat: lots of modules need the .consoleName to be set, i just changed this one. added .consoleName = "urlcopy"
07:47.14[A]v[P]found it
07:47.18[A]v[P]Aloft_GuildOnly\Aloft_GuildOnly.lua:29: attempt to index field 'OnMenuRequest' (a nil value)
07:47.27ZealotOnAStickI know something else that people always cry for is a "group them up into 1 or 2 columns (or rows) and have them sorted by class within" - now I know that one might be a bitch.
07:47.32[A]v[P]in fact the menu is not there
07:47.44[A]v[P]to enable guild nameplates
07:47.56Roartindon_Get rid of Aloft_GuildOnly
07:48.03Roartindon_That was removed from the repository yesterday
07:48.10ZealotOnAStickckknight: covering your screen would, I suppose, be a possibility depending on the size of the raid frames.
07:48.11[A]v[P]ah ok its embedded now
07:48.14[A]v[P]thanks :)
07:48.15Roartindon_It's completely superceded by a built in module in Aloft
07:49.24Brunersdammit, we are now 6 active raiding hunters in the guild
07:49.35Punkie`lol, we have like 2
07:49.59[A]v[P]why recruit more in the first place?
07:50.14Brunerswe recruited a hole guild form another server
07:50.44ZealotOnAStickMisdirection pulls are useful . . . and there's actually an endgame raiding use for tranquilizing shot again.
07:50.50Diao"merge"?
07:50.54ZealotOnAStickthough in that specific case, 2 hunters is more than enough.
07:50.55Roartindon_Diao: I tried the latest Aloft and latest Antagonist - no errors here.. can you update to the latest of both?
07:51.17ZealotOnAStickDiao: also, embedded libs or StandAloneLibraries?
07:51.24BrunersDiao: going to be a merge i guess
07:52.30Diaoembedded
07:52.39Diaoalright
07:52.49DiaoI should probably use SAL since I use like 100 ace addons >.>
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07:54.02ZealotOnAStick'k.
07:54.03Noekoeanyone know how to show latency in game when yo have no mods installed?
07:54.19[dRaCo]there is that lag bar.
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07:54.26Noekoeah yes
07:54.37Noekoedisabled it for 2yrs now forgot about it :P
07:54.40ZealotOnAStickok, never mind, Antagonist does have SurfaceLib embedded.
07:54.57Diaookay
07:55.16DiaoUpdating to Aloft r32422 and Antagonist is still r31499
07:55.20Diaoand relogging
07:56.41ZealotOnAStickgrab a fresh copy of antagonist from files.wowace.com, as it's up to 31499.13, which means updated embedded libs, which -could- matter.
07:56.59DiaoAh
07:58.10DiaoAlso a strange bug that only occurs when Prat is enabled
07:58.27DiaoWorldDefense doesn't show as [4. WorldDefense] when I have replace for that channel disabled
07:58.32DiaoIt just displays as [4. ]
07:59.27DiaoYou were right ZealotOnAStick
07:59.34DiaoUpdating to 31499.13 fixed it
08:00.05DiaoThanks :)
08:04.25NeoTronwoot
08:04.38NeoTronNightbane down (4th try) and netherspite down (2nd try with new strat)
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08:05.02DiaoGrats
08:05.30Aenslaedugh, netherspite is so awful to bring chobs to
08:05.53ZealotOnAStickGlad it's working for you now Diao.
08:05.53Aenslaeddoing stuff like accidentally running through beams. Missing beams. Dying to dumb stuff. ugh!
08:05.59ZealotOnAStickAenslaed: "chobs?"
08:06.38Aenslaedoh, chob is just another way of refering to retards or bad players
08:07.17Aenslaedchob, chobby. I dunno where the word originated from!
08:07.31[A]v[P]on netherspite a new trial rogue wanted to green bream :)
08:07.40[A]v[P]take even
08:08.21Aenslaedlol, urban dictonary. To put someone in the trunk or \"boot\" of your car.. take them to some remote place and Slash/Chob them up. Hence the name boot chob.
08:08.34Aenslaedi guess that applies to the use. Someone you want to get rid of lol
08:08.55[A]v[P]never heard it myself
08:10.38[A]v[P]armory and firefox dont go well together :<
08:11.04Brunersworks here
08:11.06ZealotOnAStickamusingly, Armory's recommended browser is Firefox.
08:11.09Diaolol
08:11.11DiaoIt works fine for me too
08:11.20dottedit works fine, but its slow
08:11.30ZealotOnAStickI think it's more that Armory just bites.  Malfunctioning AJAX, nasty server loads.
08:12.09[A]v[P]with firefox it takes ages to load
08:12.17[A]v[P]with IE loads the character page
08:12.20[A]v[P]but never finishes
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08:13.29FryGuyya, armory could be *way* better with a better programmer :p
08:13.58ZealotOnASticknot all on the programmer, though that would help.
08:14.11ZealotOnAStickThat's some nasty server infrastructure required to support it.
08:14.24FryGuytrue
08:14.31FryGuyi meant purely on the web-front
08:14.34FryGuythe way it loads stuff
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08:17.26Chosimorning
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08:18.21Chosiis there a way to access the armorydata externally
08:18.54Chosii'd love to setup the profiles in my guild's forum with armory information
08:19.20DiaoYeah
08:19.23mitch0probably yes, I've seen a site that displayed guild summary stuff based on armory
08:19.35mitch0like average +dmg for mages, stuff like that
08:19.38DiaoYou can look at java code
08:19.56mitch0you mean javascript, right?
08:20.19DiaoHm 1 sec
08:20.20evlther eis
08:20.29DiaoOh
08:20.31evlthe only thing the armory does is load up an XML file and apply XSLT on the client side
08:20.31DiaoIt looks like
08:20.36DiaoShadowed removed his addon from WoWI
08:20.38evlso you can just grab the XML file and style it yourself
08:20.44Chosiah nice
08:20.53Diaothere was a java program he wrote that downloads the talents and saves it to an LUA
08:20.57Diaoso you can see enemy talents in arena
08:21.57mitch0doh
08:21.57mitch0lame :)
08:21.57Chosihaha
08:21.57dottedcreative
08:21.57Chosikinda
08:21.57Diaohttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/7159/arena-enemy-talents/
08:21.58mitch0although some of the talent setups would make me giggle, I guess
08:21.58DiaoThere it is on curse
08:21.58Chosineed sources tho ;)
08:22.05DiaoIt has the source code included
08:22.07mitch0at least some of the mages used some weirdo talents in my former guild
08:22.10Diaoafaik
08:22.17Chosiah they're there
08:22.30Diaolook through teamdata.java
08:22.58ChosiIf you hate this mod and/or me, take a number and get in line.
08:22.59Chosi:D
08:23.19Diaolol
08:23.49mitch0I don't hate it, I just think it's lame ;)
08:24.06mitch0my talent setup is pretty much apparent 10 secs in the fight
08:24.11Chosiwell i think if blizz had the capacities they would have released some sdk for armory interaction
08:24.34Chosisince the armory is still slow as fuck, they don't
08:24.36DiaoThey probably don't want too many people doing it
08:24.38Diaoyeah
08:24.43Diaooverload their servers :P
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08:25.03Chosii seriously start to think the armory is running on my realm box
08:25.05Chosi;)
08:25.35Chosihttp://img.7chan.org/cat/src/117631941696.jpg
08:25.39Chosi:>
08:25.46DiaoUgh
08:26.06DiaoI hate whoever at Blizzard decided that it would be a good idea to make BoP enchanting formulas that are a rare drop off rare spawn mobs
08:26.32Chosiyup
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08:26.38mitch0Diao: it's not that bad really. I farmed them in 2 days
08:26.45DiaoI've been killing Razaani Spell-thieves
08:26.47Diaofor 4 days
08:26.54DiaoKilled 643 of them so far according to mobinfo
08:26.57Chosii'm trying to farm that engi stuff for khorium scope
08:27.01mitch0better than spending 500-1000g on every bloody recipe
08:27.04Chosihaha diao
08:27.06AenslaedDiao: -_-
08:27.08DiaoI've made over 600g from drops, blues, and greens that I AH
08:27.10AenslaedI got mine on the 3rd kill
08:27.12DiaoAnd still not gotten the formula
08:27.14Chosii got that recipe with a friend in like 1.5hrs
08:27.15Chosi:/
08:27.27Aenslaedbad luck perhaps
08:27.32DiaoI've found 1 BoE epic and 5 BoE blues while trying to get this
08:27.33Diaolol
08:27.37Chosi:)
08:27.38Diaoand countless greens
08:27.42Aenslaedwhich epic?
08:27.56RoartindonDiao: Took me a week of farming the spell thieves of total around 20 hours to get that enchant
08:28.01RoartindonAnd some other guild member got it on like 3rd drop
08:28.23Chosihow do i find out where exactly my character xml file is?
08:28.24Aenslaedyah. I got the enchant from the ogre dudes on the 7th kill. the one from the spell thieves 3rd kill :D
08:28.30Aenslaed+35agi on the 3rd run
08:28.38Aenslaedbut nothing from karazhan :(
08:28.46DiaoNightfall
08:28.47Diaolol
08:28.56Chosii've got mungoose on my kharazan offhand dagger :/
08:29.02Chosimongoose
08:29.03Chosiwhatever
08:29.03Diaoerg
08:29.05Diaorecipe
08:29.05Diaowhatever
08:29.06mitch0maybe you're jinxed, like me with the spiders in black morass. they fail to drop anything for me. corpse sparkles, but it's always empty. should be a 35% droprate on spider silk there...
08:29.12Diaosame thing
08:29.15Diao;(
08:29.16RoartindonDiao: Any luck with the libraries while I was away?
08:29.18DiaoYeah
08:29.28DiaoAntagonist wasn't updated with latest embedded libs
08:29.33DiaoI grabbed latest version off files.wowace.com
08:29.34Diaoand it worked
08:30.15Chosiif anybody finds out how to leech your char's xml file
08:30.16Chositell meh
08:30.20Chosigetting my coffee
08:30.38NightHawkTheSaneChosi: talk to antiarc? He's done some work parsing the armory xml files
08:30.42DiaoI'll get this formula someday
08:31.21ChosiNightHawkTheSane: okay thanks
08:32.02Chosijust don't wanna regex the rendered stuff :/
08:32.49NightHawkTheSaneoh gods that would be terrible
08:33.03NightHawkTheSanenah, you can retrieve the xml and aprse that
08:33.22Chosiyup that's the aim
08:33.22Chosi:)
08:36.16CIA-1103ammo * r32427 10PitBull/ (9 files in 9 dirs):
08:36.16CIA-11PitBull: Add fontsize slider to global settings.
08:36.16CIA-11~whalecrit sedatedChipmunk
08:36.19purlACTION crits sedatedChipmunk with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. sedatedChipmunk dies
08:36.44hyperChipmunkabout friggin time
08:36.52sedatedChipmunknow i can sleep
08:36.55[Ammo]oh sod off and die in a pile of horsedung
08:37.04[Ammo]drycoded btw
08:37.08[Ammo]so fix the errors yourself!
08:37.20sedatedChipmunkbite meh
08:37.54[Ammo]haha
08:38.04SunTigerone day this drycoding is going to break everything so horribly
08:38.17[Ammo]you could have coded that yourself in the 10 mins it took me :p
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08:38.41sedatedChipmunki'm retired, i think
08:38.52SunTigeryou think ?
08:38.57sedatedChipmunki exist in a consultory fashion only
08:39.01[Ammo]retired people have no rights to complain, they can suck their juice through a straw and vegetate on a couch
08:39.07Chosipitbull > aguf?
08:39.10[Ammo]untill it's their time for the oven
08:39.14sedatedChipmunkO_o
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08:39.23[Ammo]BURN IN RIGHTEOUS FIRE
08:39.28ZealotOnAStickI want my corpse shot into the sun.
08:39.35Theyou and me both
08:39.39SunTigeris the sun righteous ?
08:39.41ZealotOnAStickOr left adrift near a singularity.
08:39.45ZealotOnAStickEither would suffice.
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08:40.09sedatedChipmunkSunTiger: i'm "retired" because i actually just suck at coding and it's a good way to pretend i was once actually good at it
08:40.15SunTigerbut extreemly bent space time does not burn.
08:40.16[Ammo]hahaha
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08:40.47SunTigerbrilliant chipmunk, simply brilliant.
08:41.03ZealotOnAStickSunTiger, there's galaxies with black hole cores that semi-contradict that.
08:41.20ZealotOnAStickand I'm not so much on the burning being a requisite.
08:41.20sedatedChipmunksee, that's the wisdom that comes with retirement =)
08:41.30SunTigerright
08:41.48ZealotOnASticksedatedChipmunk: I should "retire" but I'm too impatient and will just poke and hack things on rare occasion.
08:41.54[Ammo]well my drycoding seems to work 100%
08:41.57[Ammo]you're in luck today
08:42.32RoartindonQuestion about AceModules... are an addon's modules OnEnable always called before the main addon?
08:42.59Thehey does anyone know if antiarc is at his pc when hes at work?
08:43.00sedatedChipmunkwin
08:43.07[Ammo]The: he sometimes is
08:43.17ckknightRoartindon: always, yes
08:43.18sedatedChipmunk~seen Antiarc|Work
08:43.35purlantiarc|work is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 39 messages. Is idling for 10h 46m 42s, last said: 'Which is the other piece of the puzzle'.
08:43.40sedatedChipmunkthar's yer answer
08:44.15Theyeah i saw him there... i just wondered if he used irc at work or if it was just his home computer left on
08:44.31RoartindonAlso, is there an event of any sort when an addons configuration changes? or do I have to trigger that myself?
08:44.35sedatedChipmunkif it was, he woludn't have said anything =)
08:46.24Themmk
08:46.38Theand that Andune... anyone know what server he runs on?
08:47.37Theregister!
08:47.54Theyou can see my mirc nubness
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08:51.57CIA-1103helium * r32428 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-zhTW.lua:
08:51.57CIA-11FuBar_BagFu:
08:51.57CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
08:54.28RoartindonIs there any way given a unitid to determine if it's a pet?
08:54.36Roartindonie.. something like UnitIsPet("target")?
08:54.50ckknightah, yea, there's a way
08:54.52ckknightcheck wowwiki
08:54.58ckknightI do the check in DogTag-1.0
08:55.15RoartindonLooking on wowwiki.. not sure where to look :)
08:55.20RoartindonI guess I'll check DogTag
08:55.24ckknightunits functions
08:55.24Andrn00bffs
08:55.31ckknightAndrn00b: ?
08:55.39ckknightRoartindon: smartclass does a check for it
08:56.01Andrn00byou wont find me name anyware :P
08:56.07Roartindonah cool, I see it .. thanks
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08:59.17Andrn00bsooo i take it most of you guys play wow?
09:00.19DiaoI should hope so
09:00.30TenraiHe doesn't!
09:01.20Andrn00blol
09:01.44TenraiBut then again, I don't either. Anymore anyway.
09:01.46SunTigerI played wow, realized wat a silly game is and now i only pretend too.
09:01.55Andrn00blol
09:01.58Andrn00bi played wow
09:02.02Andrn00bthen i quit for 6 months
09:02.10Andrn00bi realised it was an addiction
09:02.23Andrn00band now im playing it again
09:02.57TenraiPlease tell me you're not a warlock
09:03.07SunTigerwait, you realized you were addicted after you did not play for 6 months....
09:03.09SunTigerthat makes no sense.
09:03.18Andrn00brofl... howd you guess?
09:03.29Andrn00bno i realised it was an addiction when i quit
09:03.35Andrn00band that it wasnt a fun game really
09:03.48DiaoI find it boring to play alone
09:03.50DiaoIt's fun with friends
09:04.19Andrn00byeah, a lot of my friends cohersed me into playing again
09:04.46Andrn00bnow im no better than the heroin addicts who line up in the morning at the local metho clinic
09:05.43TenraiThat's because you're a warlock.
09:06.46Andrn00bive never tried it before... maybe it will work lol
09:07.30Tenrai5 second resistance, if I were still playing you'd be in a lock by now. Though sadly the CloS was wasted on that. :o
09:08.13NightHawkTheSaneisnt it just 4s?
09:08.17Andrn00blol. its ok... i can sence rogues... they do it from behind.
09:08.32Tenrai5 seconds, from what I can remember
09:08.36SunTigeraye
09:09.41Andrn00banyone know why i get this error when clearly there is no T_NEW in the entire file? http://t6.solarempires.net/index.php
09:09.44TenraiStill doesn't matter now, nowadays I'm waiting for SunTiger to give me some parts for an upgrade to play Vanguard properly
09:10.02Andrn00bCnC3 FTW
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09:10.11TenraiForgot to close something, Andrn00b ?
09:10.22Andrn00b:(
09:10.25Andrn00bi didnt write it
09:10.34Andrn00bhe did
09:10.52TenraiI see.
09:12.05Andrn00bsaid the blind man, who didnt really see at all.
09:12.43Tenrai:o
09:12.49Andrn00b:P
09:12.58Andrn00ban old saying in my neck of the woods
09:13.18SunTigeryour neck of the woods is silly
09:13.37Andrn00bi have no doubt
09:13.50Andrn00banyone here use myepisodes.com?
09:14.04SunTigerno
09:14.09Andrn00b:(
09:14.14Andrn00bthe internet is down!
09:14.21ckknight?
09:14.25ckknightno it's not
09:14.29Andrn00bwell... wow world servers
09:14.33ckknightoh
09:14.34Andrn00band myepisodes
09:14.41ckknightum
09:14.47ckknightthis might amuse you: http://www.youtube.com/southernjesse
09:14.49Andrn00band antiarc
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09:15.12mitch0ckknight: any new episodes?
09:15.20ckknightthere's 3 now
09:15.26ckknightI release a new one every Tuesday
09:15.32mitch0ah
09:16.18Andrn00bthis is better (no offense... im just a typical aussie) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AIAKilc0Eg
09:17.24Andrn00bso ur acting as southern jessie>?
09:17.46ckknightyea
09:18.38Andrn00bthats cool
09:18.49Andrn00ba mate of mine does stoned rants about nothing in odd voices
09:19.28Andrn00bbut i just like youtube for the funny clips about beer and formula 1
09:20.10ckknightlol
09:21.12RoartindonIs it possible to precompile lua scripts for wow into bytecode; and would this improve load times?
09:21.21ckknightnot possible
09:21.29ckknightit would improve load times slightly.
09:21.35[A]v[P]is there a way to disable the pvp icons in the middle of the screen for hellfire,terrokar and zangarmarsh?
09:21.36Andrn00bis it possible to fix antiarcs code? lol
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09:21.58RoartindonStrange, because the usual lua C API provides a load function, which interprets scripts, or bytecode equally
09:22.00Punkie`[A]v[P]: interface options?
09:22.40HealthRoartindon: I guess blizzard wants it open source!
09:22.44mitch0Roartindon: it's specifically so that addon coders can't distribute their addons in byte-code format, so less likely to include "bad" code
09:22.52ckknightRoartindon: not strange, Blizzard removed the functionality
09:22.56[A]v[P]punkie: like what options i dont see any :>
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09:23.25HealthOr just didn't expose it.
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09:25.24Andrn00bso what colour is your microwave?
09:25.46[Ammo]what if you don't own a microwave?
09:25.47ckknightwhite
09:28.16DiaoI hate my life
09:28.25DiaoThis warlock just came here
09:28.28Diaoand killed 3 of the spell-thieves
09:28.31Diaoand got it to drop :(
09:28.43mitch0;)
09:28.47[A]v[P]thats the life of the drop rate
09:28.48mitch0are you sure you're an enchanter? :)
09:29.02Punkie`[A]v[P]: it's there somewhere, you can change it to have them off, when in range, or on
09:29.05DiaoYes :(
09:29.17Diaohttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Auchindoun&n=Diao
09:29.18Diao:(
09:29.23Andrn00bif you dont have a microwave... you lose
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09:29.49DiaoI got the +15 spelldamage to bracers in just 100 kills
09:29.54DiaoThis is ridiculous :(
09:30.09Punkie`Andrn00b: lose what? the best microwave award?
09:31.18mitch0Diao: what level is your enchanting atm?
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09:32.57Diao350
09:32.58Diaolol
09:33.21DiaoFrom what I heard it doesn't matter though
09:33.22Stephmwmeh, I'm finding it hard to get over the 295 hump
09:33.28sbumorning :)
09:33.44mitch0Diao: I farmed it at that level, too
09:33.54mitch0still just 355...
09:34.08DiaoI have tons of mats in my bank
09:34.12Diaoto powerlevel my ench from 350-375
09:34.20DiaoI'm just getting my BS to 350 first so I can make myself an adamantite rod
09:34.26Diaowow
09:34.27DiaoThat warlock said
09:34.38DiaoHe got the spellpower to bracer enchant that took me 150 kills to get
09:34.40Diaoin 6 kills
09:34.55Silviu-I got enchant weapon spellpower in 4 kills
09:35.04Silviu-And another one said he was farming there for 4 h
09:35.12Silviu-And i come kill 4 mobs and get it
09:35.12DiaoI've been farming for 4 days..
09:35.14Silviu-;)
09:35.15Diao8 hours a day
09:35.22Silviu-For weapon spell ?
09:35.23Silviu-:)
09:35.30Diaoyeah
09:35.48DiaoI have this same luck with quest drops
09:35.56DiaoI'll get like a blue BoE and 10 greens
09:36.04Diaobefore I finish any quest that doesn't have a 100% drop rate
09:36.10Silviu-;))
09:36.18RoartindonAt least you've got cash then :P
09:36.23DiaoYeah I'm ridiculously rich
09:36.28DiaoLevel 68 and I've got over 4k gold
09:36.28Diaolol
09:36.37Diaoeven with both ench and bs
09:36.37sbumeh, need ~20 primal life :o
09:36.39NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
09:36.48Silviu-I have 2k gold
09:36.56Silviu-And epicmount
09:37.00DiaoI'll probably have enough to buy my epic flying as soon as I ding 70
09:37.05Silviu-And 2k i gived to my gf
09:37.06sbu2.5k gold w/o epic :o
09:37.06NightHawkTheSaneIve still got 1.2k before my epic flyer ><
09:37.06Silviu-;)
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09:37.33NightHawkTheSanethen i get the fun of leveling up leatherworking. yay.
09:37.42DiaoOh man
09:37.44Diaowrong hotkey
09:37.46DiaoI hit f2 in here when I meant to do it in game
09:37.47Silviu-I just begun to make my enchanting
09:37.53Silviu-351 atm :)
09:38.30NightHawkTheSanewell, i'm skinning/herb right now, so i'd be leveling it up from 1. ><
09:38.31Silviu-Must go today to get those 2 bop blue receipes .. for shadow/arcane resi
09:38.47DiaoThe ones from netherstorm?
09:38.56Silviu-One netherstorm one shadowmoon
09:40.38mitch0Silviu-: how do you make money? just grind?
09:40.40ZealotOnAStickDiao: I feel your pain.  I've been working on that enchant for days.  Not as much time in as you've put in it, but I'm easily into a couple hundred spell thieves killed.
09:40.56Silviu-mitch0 i finished ALL quests .. i mean all ..
09:41.02Silviu-Have only 2 .. Vials of eternity
09:41.06Silviu-And magtheridon kill
09:41.12mitch0hehe
09:41.17mitch0good luck on those :)
09:41.19Silviu-And some grind .. yes
09:41.22Silviu-Thx :/
09:41.24mitch0I'm doing all my quests, too
09:41.27Diaolol
09:41.32Silviu-We don`t have enough warlocks
09:41.33Silviu-...
09:41.34DiaoI have yet to do a single quest past hellfire
09:41.36Silviu-Only me and another
09:41.37mitch0skipped the mana tombs escort quest though after repeated failure with pugs
09:41.39Silviu-with 2 is damn hard
09:41.58DiaoAll quests level 62+ are green at 70
09:42.03DiaoSo I'm saving them for level 70 gold conversion
09:42.34Silviu-I mean for maghtheridon
09:42.34ZealotOnAStickI however have terrible drop luck while farming, I get a few greens, that's it.  Almost never blues, and I've had, since WoW launched, precisely one personal world drop-epic . . . and it was the Black Belt of Knowledge pattern.  :(
09:42.35Silviu-:)
09:42.47Silviu-Ah and i got one epic receipe
09:42.48Silviu-700g
09:42.49Silviu-:)
09:42.50Diao:(
09:42.54Silviu-Some blacksmith thing
09:44.12Bibi`never got an epic drop when i was alone :/
09:44.32NightHawkTheSaneI've gotten two blue boe JC designs. but thats it for boe blues in TBC
09:44.33Bibi`but probably sold a hundred of epics. :p
09:45.00RoartindonSilviu: All quests? including low level Blood Elf/Draeni ones? :)
09:45.39Andrn00b366-375 tailoring=expensive
09:46.08sbuZealotOnAStick: same here :o
09:46.27sbuand i know ppl with 4-5 blue / week and 1 epic / 2 weeks :/
09:48.14Andrn00bive got a nice epic recipe... or 3
09:49.41sbuand well... that guy also crafts 5 pots w/ alt char and - bam - discovery :/
09:50.23sbupretty useless thing, transmute water -> shadow, buy hey... at least he got one :o
09:51.48Silviu-Roartindon nah .. i mean Outland quests :)
09:53.12sbuah Roartindon is on irc
09:53.21sbuRoartindon: aloft is sooo nice ;o
09:53.23sbuthanks ;)
09:53.26cr4zydDoes anyone know how i might be able to get the 'instant sort' feature working on arkinventory?
09:54.19CIA-1103ckknight * r32429 10PitBull/ (13 files in 13 dirs):
09:54.19CIA-11PitBull - Huge update. :Update*(unit) methods now changed to :Update*(frame).
09:54.19CIA-11- internally, the uid is no longer the unit, but the frame itself.
09:54.19CIA-11- now doesn't use a funky clustering system, instead uses Blizzard's secure headers.
09:54.19CIA-11- raid grouping. needs options, though.
09:54.20CIA-11- the configmode for party/raid is broken currently.
09:54.24CIA-11- also, freeform movement of clusters is no longer working.
09:57.37ckknightoh, also frame.unit was taken out
09:57.43ckknightuse frame:GetUnit() if you need that
09:58.29sbuhm ckknight - party pets/targets finally hidden in raid? :o
09:58.40ckknighttheoretically.
09:58.51sbuah ;o
09:59.03ckknightactually, that does need hacking.
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10:02.14sbumeh, need some information about new arena rewards :o have ~3300 points and dont know if i should keep it or buy that +190spelldmg dagger (me, disc/holypriest - raidhealer :o)
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10:04.57Healthckknight: Not sure if it was fixed... inside the arena I chose to "chose party even in raid"... all frames showed.. and all placeholder buff/debuff slots on all frames
10:05.12HealthLooked like all pibull frames showed.
10:05.23ckknightdoes it look right to you?
10:05.40HealthFixed as in the last 2 days... didn't test it
10:05.48Healthsince it shit me in the face!
10:06.10HealthI just didn't want you to go omglololn0b l2update!
10:06.13CIA-1103trh * r32430 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoS.lua modules/ChatNotifier.lua): VanasKoS: fixed chat color modification for global channels
10:06.16ckknightstep 1) come back with an actual response that I can use, what you're giving me is worthless
10:06.43HealthBetter than nothing!
10:06.54HealthI will investigate it when I get home
10:07.03ckknightk
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10:12.25mitch0ckknight: any thought about disabling the healthbar update? (for party target frames, specifically)
10:12.37ckknightno
10:12.51mitch0can I commit it if I do it? :)
10:13.03ckknightI'd have to see a patch first
10:13.06mitch0ok
10:13.10ckknightand I believe that the way you're thinking is a total hack
10:13.20mitch0erm, why so?
10:13.28CIA-1103helium * r32431 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFuLocale-zhTW.lua:
10:13.28CIA-11FuBar_ClockFu:
10:13.28CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
10:13.31ckknightwhat you want to do is disable the healthBar, not just fuck up the events
10:14.10mitch0I don't want to fuck up the events. I just wouldn't call healthbar:updateBar or what's its name
10:14.29mitch0the coloring would still stay, to show dead / friendly /etc status
10:14.39mitch0it would just alwasy stay at 100%
10:14.56ckknighthrm
10:14.59ckknightokay
10:15.06ckknightdon't make it hackish, though
10:15.08Silviu-ckknight http://ace.pastey.net/11837
10:15.08Loki|muhso I guess I should wait a bit until I use WAU again *g*
10:15.41ckknightSilviu-: err, lame, I'm updating that part so the line number's off
10:15.59Silviu-;)
10:16.14Silviu-This is with your big update that u did :)
10:16.43ckknightyea, and I'm updating stuff
10:16.57Silviu-Oky doky, good luck :P
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10:21.08sbuckknight: : PitBull-r32429\PitBull.lua:1247: attempt to index local 'unit' (a nil value)
10:21.22ckknightsbu: same issue as Silviu-
10:21.45sbuoh
10:21.47sbuwait :o
10:22.00Silviu-ckknight another issue, portrait`s won`t update anymore
10:22.11Silviu-Cause of those 2 errors ?
10:22.22ckknightone error can cascade others
10:22.26ckknightlikely what happened
10:22.28Silviu-Oky :)
10:24.57syerenckk, did you allow numbers to be entered for scaling yet :D?
10:25.04ckknightno
10:25.12syerenOr did you make that debuff frame system we was talking about :P?
10:25.16syerenNeed to make that.
10:25.16ckknightyou can tell I'm busy, can't you?
10:25.19syerenWill be some killer shit.
10:25.24syerenI have to PVP :P
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10:25.35syerenAnd Learn LUA to do that ;p
10:26.23Silviu-syeren debuff system is in]
10:26.28Silviu-U can scale it
10:26.44Silviu-Change how many buffs/debuffs etc :)
10:27.29NickenyfikenBah i have to ask again. Is anyone using tekKompare and RatingBuster?
10:27.46syerenSilviu-, me and Ckk thought of an amazing debuff system ;)
10:27.49ZealotOnAStickI am, Nickenyfiken.
10:27.57syerenJust need someone to put it in >_<
10:28.14ckknightthat person is [ammo], I believe
10:28.17ckknightdon't hold me to it
10:28.22NickenyfikenI am 100% sure RatingBuster was modifying all tooltips, but now it just modify the original one and not the tekKompare tips
10:29.20Andrn00b><
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10:30.02NickenyfikenZealotOnAStick: Is it that way for you too?
10:30.15ZealotOnAStickHow it's always been I think.
10:31.21Nickenyfikenoh damn
10:31.38NickenyfikenBut i have seen screenies with RatingBuster modifying them all
10:31.51Nickenyfikenmaybe thats why i think i had the same behavior
10:31.52syerenHahaha.
10:31.53syerenCkk.
10:31.57syerenAwesome change note :p
10:32.07syeren@32382  [32382] 04/11/07 20:16:21 ckknight
10:32.08syerenPitBull? - locked frames no longer move when alt is held down. I use that as my purify for Click2Cast. Instead, just unlock if you want to move em.
10:33.14ckknightyea, just realize that I'm a rather self-centered author
10:33.15syerenWhy would use Purify?
10:33.15syerenCleanse >
10:33.15syerenUnless you're a druid.
10:33.15ckknightthat's it
10:33.15ckknightCleanse
10:33.21ckknight<--- pally
10:33.24syerenClasses Paladin (8)
10:33.27NightHawkTheSaneor you're not high enough to have cleanse yet
10:33.35NickenyfikenWell isnt it possible to have to frames move when holding alt ONLY if there is not another alt binding? Hmm i guess it's not
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10:33.56CIA-1103ckknight * r32432 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - bugfixing and whatnot.
10:34.06ckknightNickenyfiken: it'd be possible.
10:34.11ckknightNickenyfiken: I don't really feel like it
10:34.20Nickenyfiken:-)
10:34.25syerenI use alt on Clique :p
10:34.26syeren\o/
10:36.05ZealotOnAStickOh no.  Vonnegut died.
10:36.15NightHawkTheSanei use shift, alt, control with both left/right click in clique
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10:36.33NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: yeah :(
10:36.45ckknightZealotOnAStick: yea, sad
10:36.59ckknightI was fond of Slaughterhouse Five
10:37.10NickenyfikenBah i don't understand, to me it looks like TipHookerLib has support for tekKompare :-/
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10:38.28NightHawkTheSanemaybe is not tipping the hookers enough.
10:39.08Silviu-ckk
10:39.10Silviu-[2007/04/12 13:39:47-59-x2]: PitBull-r32432\Mana\Mana.lua:83: Usage: UnitManaMax("unit")
10:39.25ckknightsome other addon is fucking that up, I believe...
10:39.43Silviu-Hmm ..
10:39.50ckknightwhat non-core PitBull addons do you have?
10:39.55Silviu-PitBull_BarFader ?
10:40.49Silviu-I just hover over persons in shattrath
10:40.57Silviu-And errors come :)
10:41.05NickenyfikenNightHawkTheSane: Yeah maybe but as i can see it's using the same code for tipping all tooltips
10:41.13Silviu-[2007/04/12 13:42:03-59-x1]: PitBull-r32432\Health\Health.lua:107: Usage: UnitHealthMax("unit")
10:41.16Silviu-Oh now health too
10:41.27Silviu-Should i disable Barfader ?
10:41.29Silviu-And try without ?
10:42.07ckknightyea, try
10:42.48CIA-1103ckknight * r32433 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - cluster headers shouldn't be buttons
10:43.13MorghusI wonder why this happens. All my addons go wonky and decides to bug Oo
10:43.36Silviu-ckknight ok, without i won`t get anymore
10:43.49ckknighthrm, trying to reproduce
10:43.53Stephmwhahaha, love Aeus' reply on this one... http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/274257484.htm
10:43.57ckknighthow'd you make it happen?
10:44.08Silviu-Click on all ppl/npc in bank in shattrath
10:44.09Silviu-:)
10:45.01MorghusStephmw... that's brilliant! :D
10:45.14MorghusThe CM's must be getting jaded by now *grins*
10:47.05NickenyfikenAeus is funny
10:47.20NickenyfikenWell most CMs are i think
10:48.48syereneuropean ones are.
10:48.57syerenYou have fags like Tigole on the US boards.
10:49.14DiaoWell I am done for the night.. 750 kills now
10:49.36CIA-1103ckknight * r32434 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua: PitBull_BarFader - fix bug that caused health/mana modules to bug out.
10:50.02ckknightSilviu-: k
10:50.15Nickenyfikenckknight: because you removed the alt-move thingie i have a request, shift-click the FuBar plugin to unlock frames just like Bartender have.
10:50.37ckknightI was just gonna do a normal click
10:50.43Silviu-ckknight updating, and test thank u :)
10:50.52ckknightthen like shift-click for configmode
10:51.08NickenyfikenOK
10:51.11Silviu-Btw, why u don`t add this to core ?
10:51.13Silviu-Barfader
10:51.36NickenyfikenBT3 have double-click for config :-P
10:51.45NickenyfikenWell click is ok
10:51.49[Ammo]doubleclick sucks
10:51.53[Ammo]because it fires a normal click as well
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10:52.06ckknightSilviu-: *shrug* probably will
10:52.35[Ammo]time to test full frame debuff highlighting p
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10:54.56Silviu-ckknight works :P
10:55.39syeren[Ammo], me and ckk had a different idea in how you could do that :P
10:55.43syerenIf you could listen / consider ;p
10:55.53ckknightI forget
10:55.57ckknightwhat did you come up with?
10:56.16syerenHow you have user set debuffs to put color the user defined border.
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10:56.30ckknightoh
10:56.34ckknightyea, that'll happen eventually
10:56.36syerenSo we know which is priority to dispel / cleanse.
10:56.45[Ammo]that's something for later
10:56.49syerenRather than fucking shadow affinity turning everything blue.
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10:57.02ckknighthehe
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10:58.09CIA-1103helium * r32435 10FuBar_ExitFu/ExitFu.lua:
10:58.09CIA-11FuBar_ExitFu:
10:58.09CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
10:58.23[dRaCo]wtb configuration mode for grid :/
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10:59.57Punkie`wtb uber configurable aura module of awesomness for pitbull! :>
11:00.04[Ammo]now how do I get myself debuffed
11:00.10[Ammo]with any debuff
11:00.14Wiebbebe a paladin
11:00.15Wiebbeand shield
11:00.16Wiebbe:P
11:00.18MorghusDuel. Warlock. Curse of Shadows.
11:00.33[Ammo]well I did the weakened soul thing
11:00.37[Ammo]that didn't work
11:00.46[Ammo]argh, I screwed up
11:00.50Wiebbeits a debuff right? :P
11:01.10hastebandage!
11:03.16[Ammo]hehe
11:03.24[Ammo]pw:s on my level 12 priest is handier :p
11:03.39MorghusWhen I was configuring Discord a while back I duelled a warlock to fiddle with debuffs. The bastard kept fearing me. Nothing's more confuzzling than a character running around like a headless chicken when you're trying to concentrate.
11:04.46CIA-1103ckknight * r32436 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - clicking changes locked status, shift-clicking changes configmode
11:05.10Morghus"Yeah, do a Curse of Shadows on me, that's good. Thanks" *is feared* "haha. Damn, impossible to concentrate with that up" *is feared again* "... not funny..." *feared again* "...dude..." :P
11:06.26ZealotOnAStickUhm.  How am I supposed to move the Mouseover frame?
11:07.12Chompersin config mode i think
11:08.32ckknightZealotOnAStick: config mode
11:09.34ZealotOnAStickUhm, which option?  I just tried them all, and didn't find anything pop up for mouseover.
11:09.52ZealotOnAStickOh, woops.
11:09.55Chompersis it enabled?
11:10.00ZealotOnASticknever mind.  Helps if I un-hide it again.
11:10.22NightHawkTheSanelol
11:11.13xlviidoes anyone know of a decent, non-web-based, rss reader?
11:11.37Silviu-ckk http://ace.pastey.net/11849
11:11.46[dRaCo]there are plugins for firefox and miranda :þ
11:12.22Loki|muhliverea is nice, I heard
11:12.31NightHawkTheSaneI like netnewswire
11:12.43ckknightSilviu-: open up the PitBull.lua file, tell me what line 2506 is
11:12.44NightHawkTheSanebut that may be mac only
11:13.00Silviu-Ok
11:13.14Morghusckknight, would it be possible to have the frames change position depending on status of Combat - Noncombat?
11:13.37ckknighttheoretically, but that's complicated and imho unintuitive
11:13.39Silviu-if (value == "solo" and (unit:find("^party") or unit:find("^raid"))) or (value == "party" and unit:find("^raid")) or (value == "raid" and self.db.profile.settings.hidePartyInRaid and unit:find("^party")) then
11:14.05MorghusIt is, of course, but it's something I've always wanted :)
11:15.46NightHawkTheSanei could see a use for that
11:16.21ckknightseems like changing the alpha or something would be cleaner
11:16.45MorghusInstead of changing it's position
11:16.46Morghus?
11:16.49ckknightyes
11:17.01NightHawkTheSanewell, i might like it for moving my player/target/tot frame to center screen in combat, then off to an edge or something when not. Granted, I'd probably get sick of it, but it might be neat.
11:17.05MorghusDoesn't the alpha just change it's transparency visually?
11:17.36MorghusNightHawkTheSane, that was it. I had a script a long time ago that did it for Discord, but it's lost somewhere.
11:19.49CIA-1103ckknight * r32437 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make population check for unit existence.
11:20.23MorghusI'm afraid having frames fade, and not actually be click-through, on status-change would be purely cosmetic, and a bit useless :p
11:21.34ckknightwhy would you want that?
11:22.01MorghusWhich part? =)
11:23.30ckknightfor them to move
11:24.24MorghusOh, that would be purely cosmetic and nice of course, not anything super-practical I'm afraid ;)
11:24.28NightHawkTheSanequick question, how do you make someone else guild master?
11:25.05MorghusRight-click them and do 'Promote'?
11:25.05CIA-1103gagorian * r32438 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc):
11:25.05CIA-11DrDamage:
11:25.05CIA-11-InfiniBar support. Thanks to JJSheets.
11:25.08NightHawkTheSanedoesnt seem to work :P
11:25.16xyu./gc promote ?
11:25.17xyumaybe
11:25.46xyun/m
11:25.48xyuthat's guildchat
11:25.49xyu:P
11:25.52mjc<PROTECTED>
11:25.55NightHawkTheSanebah
11:25.58NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
11:26.04NightHawkTheSanebut you cant make someone guild leader who's not online.
11:26.07MorghusAh
11:26.19xyuno but you can kick your guildleader if he isn't online lol
11:26.22xyuthrough an exploit
11:26.25Andrn00b><
11:26.35NightHawkTheSaneyes, but -i'm- the guild leader.
11:26.49Andrn00bso what server are you all from?
11:26.49NightHawkTheSanewonder if i'll break things if i just /quit. >.>
11:26.55yacoobhow's this drawing mod for cartographer going?
11:26.59Andrn00bJubei'Thos here
11:27.13xyuNightHawkTheSane, yeah kind of.
11:27.20xyuWell last i knew it broke things for a while
11:27.25xyubut that was like patch 1.12
11:27.30MorghusAD-EU
11:27.41NightHawkTheSanexyu: knowing blizzard they havnt fixed it
11:28.48CIA-1103ammo * r32439 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: Add frame highlighting to the aura module. Can be configured per group. Settings: Never, All Debuffs, Cureable, Cureable by me. Highlighting uses the same colors as the border settings.
11:28.50mjcNightHawkTheSane: fud
11:28.58Mikmaomg, my layout is gone :(
11:29.10[Ammo]Mikma: don't use alpha software
11:29.23Mikmadon't bork the code
11:29.30[Ammo]the code now uses secure headers
11:29.32[Ammo]so shooo
11:29.44Mikmawhat in it for me
11:29.51[Ammo]nothing
11:29.55[Ammo]use default blizzard frames
11:30.09NightHawkTheSanemaybe i should just /gdisband and say fuckem
11:30.18Mikmagood idea but because it came from [Ammo] i'll have to pass
11:30.39[Ammo]do a /roll
11:30.42[Ammo]and promote a random person
11:30.44[Ammo]then gquit
11:31.00NightHawkTheSanethere's no one else online
11:31.04NightHawkTheSaneit's like 4:30 am.
11:31.08Mikmagdisband is lovely
11:31.10[Ammo]haha
11:31.58NightHawkTheSaneyeah. screw em. /gdisband it is!
11:32.27[Ammo]debuff frame highlighting of awesomeness :)
11:32.40Punkie`ammo make the aura module better kthxbye
11:32.54[Ammo]it's pretty good already kthxbye
11:33.01MorghusMy guild-leader is pretty famous for his accidental /gdisband.
11:33.12[Ammo]besides you're supposed to be farming for my epic flying mount
11:33.17Punkie`can you chose which debuffs you want to show?
11:33.28Punkie`quiet 1 euro boy
11:33.43[Ammo]ingame tamagotchi 5000g kthxbye
11:33.49Ominouswhere do you create pvp teams
11:33.50MorghusHmm.. damn. PitBull's Config mode isn't working for me :o
11:33.50Punkie`wtb
11:34.01MorghusOminous, Arena in Nagrand
11:34.07Ominousk
11:34.08Ominousty
11:34.14MorghusYou're welcome :)
11:34.18Punkie`i think ck wrote that it was broken in a commit note?
11:34.41Punkie`[Ammo]: CAN YOU???? kthxbye
11:34.54MorghusOh. Which is ironic since I decided to mess with the interface now :p
11:35.02Morghus*reverts version*
11:35.22[Ammo]Punkie`: 5000g then we'll talk
11:35.36`-FISKER_Q\noes Punkie`
11:35.37Punkie`im not asking for a tamagotchi!
11:35.44Punkie`AURA DAMMIT
11:35.48Punkie`~mudkip
11:35.52purlSo, punkie` i herd you liek mudkips
11:35.55`-FISKER_Q\my proxy got permab& from 4chan
11:36.02Punkie`lolol
11:36.17Punkie`wry?
11:36.26`-FISKER_Q\and they extended my ban on the other ip to 90 days
11:36.27`-FISKER_Q\:(
11:36.44`-FISKER_Q\because apparently it figures out when it is one and another host and autobans my proxy
11:37.09Punkie`ok, so what did you post to get banned anyway?
11:37.30`-FISKER_Q\MODS = FAGS :o
11:37.41Punkie`QQ
11:37.45[Ammo]he probably was his usually troll self
11:37.51[Ammo]~tuplad
11:37.53purlhttp://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg
11:38.33Punkie`they have the power to annoy tho :<
11:39.06Chomperswhat the hell did you post to be banned from 4chan?
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11:39.14Chompers4chan of all places!
11:45.00hasteFATGET
11:45.18hastenot that it's a ban / word filter anymore
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11:46.23Andrn00bAntiarc still not about
11:47.07mjchttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5842298814784365681&q=wow+video&hl=en
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11:48.57Ominouspvp module is borken in pitbull
11:49.46[Ammo]Ominous: not enough info
11:49.55Ominousyea was getting the buggfs
11:50.17CIA-1103helium * r32440 10FuBar_FactionsFu/ (FuBar_FactionsFu.toc Locales/FuBar_FactionsFu.zhTW.lua):
11:50.17CIA-11FuBar_FactionsFu
11:50.17CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
11:50.23Ominous2007/04/12 12:49:40-34-x1]: PitBull-r32437\PvP\PvP.lua:66: Bad argument #2 to `UpdateLayout'. Expected frame, got string
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11:50.58[Ammo]ckk probably broke that one :)
11:51.59ckknightupdate fully, Ominous
11:52.07Ominousah
11:52.10Ominousi thought i had
11:53.20[Ammo]PitBull-r32437 seems to indicate he has
11:54.14sbuahh nice, thx for frame highlighting [Ammo] :)
11:55.24mjchttp://wowcutedruid.ytmnd.com/
11:55.33ckknight[Ammo]: mmm... the impossibility of it shows otherwise
11:55.53[Ammo]haha
11:55.58Ominousckknight: i hadnet
11:56.03Ominousi had a update error
11:56.27MyrathiHuh. I go to commit a change and.... auth failed. Oo
11:56.52MyrathiAre user accts flushed if unused for a while? <_<
11:57.14MorghusSnapToGrid is brilliant >.>
11:58.05Ominousammo, ur frame highlighing is shweet
12:00.12CIA-1103mikma * r32441 10InfiniBar/IB_Core.lua:
12:00.12CIA-11InfiniBar:
12:00.12CIA-11- Fixed the nonstop creating of DreamLayout frames when changing between Default and DreamLayout
12:00.15CIA-11- Detached MicroBar is now a straight line. CharacterMicrobutton is no longer 4 pixels down compared to others
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12:01.22Morghusmjc, that's so cute it hurts! :p
12:01.30mjcheh
12:01.47Silviu-[Ammo]
12:01.51Punkie`i hope the hurting isn't in your pants
12:02.32mjcif not in hispants then where
12:02.45Punkie`his heart!
12:02.47Morghus*grabs chest* MY heart!
12:03.15[Ammo]what Silviu-
12:03.17Silviu-http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041207150337bs2.jpg
12:03.23Silviu-New debuff thi8ng
12:03.27Silviu-thing*
12:03.44[Ammo]haha
12:03.49[Ammo]weird
12:03.53[Ammo]I'll set the alpha better
12:04.08[Ammo]it worked fine for me
12:04.17sbuwell, at least its highlighting :o
12:04.24[Ammo]:)
12:04.43mjchttp://calvinwow.ytmnd.com/
12:05.04sbuhmm would be nice for mages - if they want to see anything again -> need to decure
12:05.17Ominouscan you change an arena tabard after u amek it
12:06.13CIA-1103ammo * r32442 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: slam the full frame debuff highlight into submission harder.
12:06.18[Ammo]try that silviu-
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12:06.47Chosiwhy does pitbull show my portrait twice when in group? :/
12:08.17Punkie`because you ate too many pies whilst levelling?
12:08.26Silviu-Hmm
12:08.34Silviu-Now
12:08.44CIA-1103saroz * r32443 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesHealing.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix group heals
12:08.44Silviu-The frames are "there" somehow
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12:09.00Chosiyeah must be the pies
12:09.03Silviu-I mean target of target for example
12:09.05Silviu-is there ..
12:09.25winkillerseems I have to jump on the pitbull bandwagon...
12:09.34Chosii did so
12:09.38winkilleralthough I'm quite content with x-perl atm
12:09.45Chosicause aguf was displaying one group member as blank
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12:09.57Chosithat did it!
12:09.58Chosi:P
12:10.26CIA-1103saroz * r32444 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesHealing.lua: sRaidFrames: Revert.. hrm
12:10.35winkillerdoes pitbull have castbars instead of names when casting and a huge red AGGRO in the center of the screen?
12:10.46winkillerthat are the main features for me :P
12:11.03ckknightPitBull has a castbar
12:11.19MorghusX-Perl's layout looks nice as heck :)
12:11.27ckknightit doesn't have a huge "AGGRO", but PitBull_Banzai might do what you want
12:11.41Chosibtw i know a way to crash wau
12:11.46Chosiso it's not too final! ;)
12:12.10Chosiit sometimes crashes when i hit F4 before the index is being loaded
12:12.25Chosimaybe that handler shouldn't be active until the list was loaded
12:12.36Punkie`Blame your ISP!
12:12.46mjcckknight: PB likes to 'steal' the castbar from icehud :p
12:12.47Chosidon't think so
12:12.51Silviu-http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041207151129zr4.jpg
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12:13.00Silviu-[Ammo]
12:13.09mjclike I'll still be casting and PB's castbar will fire, then icehud's disappeares but I'm still casting
12:13.10Healthmjc: screenshot!
12:13.14Chosii want the sparta guy to be displayed when i gain aggro!
12:13.30Morghushahaha
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12:13.36Morghus"YOU! HAVE! AGGRO!"
12:13.38Chosi:DDD
12:13.46HealthBlinking too! Cartonish
12:13.59Chosifirst YOU then HAVE then AGGRO
12:14.08Chosifantastic idea
12:14.17Chosicartographer can display rendered arrows
12:14.28Chosiso pitbull can also display the sparta guy!
12:14.29Chosi:P
12:14.33Stephmwhmmm, problematic for hunters
12:14.39MorghusAnd then a foot comes out of the screen to kick you in the face. For emphasis that you are a n00b :p
12:14.48Stephmw"you have aggro, you have aggro, you have aggro"...
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12:14.57Chosinah drop the sound
12:15.02Chosijust a big head on the screen
12:15.08Chosiso you can't see your actionbars anymore
12:15.15Chosiand can't get more aggro
12:15.16Chosi:P
12:15.48StephmwChosi: hunters don't need actionbars, it's a single keypress remember?
12:15.58ChosiSilviu-: neat actionbars, what are they?
12:16.08Chosiah well yeah, forgot about that
12:16.24MorghusBartender3's minimap button says "Doubleclick to open GUI". It's not supposed to work, contrary to it's statement? =P
12:17.28ChosiSilviu-: was is das fÞrn combatlog da unten?
12:17.34Chosiund was fÞr actionbars sind das?
12:17.35Chosi:>
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12:18.50abbat_wgood day guys
12:19.13Silviu-Chosi Eavesdrop, Bartender3
12:19.34abbat_wckknight, can i ask you about auras in PitBull? I can't find timer for buffs/debuffs
12:19.43Chosiah cool
12:19.44ckknighttimer?
12:19.48abbat_wyep
12:19.49Chosinever seen the bt3 skin :D
12:19.59Punkie`cyCircled ;)
12:20.00ckknightyea, there's no timer.
12:20.02abbat_wif i buff myself with arcane intellect, timer is 30 min
12:20.09ckknightyou can't tell the time for anyone outside of the player
12:20.16ckknightPitBull doesn't bother
12:20.21abbat_wit's for me only, yes
12:20.25Chosipitbull is not amused
12:20.53abbat_wIn pvp for example i always need to see how many time left to fade debuf (CoA for example)
12:22.00MyrathiGrar. Friggin' auth's buggered. Anyone know, offhand, who I contact to query SVN login details?
12:22.00moonsorrowoh, new font for pitbull?
12:22.00abbat_wBut PitBull looks nice ;)
12:23.30moonsorrowhm... something wrong with the highlight for targettarget and targettargettarget?
12:23.41ckknightmoonsorrow: doesn't highlight those
12:23.53ckknightabbat_w: but don't you have standard buffs in the topright of the screen?
12:23.54moonsorrowoh sure it does :P
12:24.04moonsorrowthere are about 5 layers over them
12:24.09Silviu-How was that command to get a specific revision
12:24.11ckknightum
12:24.14ckknightI blame gnomes
12:24.24moonsorrowgnomes are always bad
12:24.39Silviu-from one addon
12:24.43abbat_wckknight, i don't like dupe of information. Maybe best way for me it's be using Buffalo. Now i use AgUF + Buffalo for buff/debuff showing
12:25.02abbat_wBut damn, PitBull have nice green border around buffs ;) I like it ;)
12:25.21MyrathiIs this a Monday? Feels like a flippin' Monday.
12:25.32abbat_wyes
12:25.42StephmwMyrathi: every day is monday
12:25.44abbat_wscalable. if you mean pitbull buffs
12:25.45Stephmw~thursday
12:26.12purl"This must be Thursday.  I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent)
12:26.12ckknight[Ammo]: for Aura now, you know how the debuffs/buffs have the border? buffs are green. Do debuffs have different colors based on what kind they are?
12:26.12Stephmwabbat_w: aye
12:26.12moonsorrowckknight: want a screenshot? btw. if I make those 2 frames hidden, the highlight stays
12:26.23ckknightmoonsorrow: nah, I believe you
12:26.56MyrathiAnd now I can't load the damn wiki
12:26.57Silviu-[Ammo] http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041207152621pu3.jpg up is tot/focus and down from mine is pet
12:26.58moonsorrowok
12:27.00Stephmwkergoth: I swearm the original #oe weekday descriptions were better
12:27.00CIA-1103trh * r32445 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoS.lua modules/DataGatherer.lua): VanasKoS: small fixes
12:27.04Stephmw*swear
12:27.05Silviu-Don`t know why but they are there
12:27.15abbat_wAnd auras positioning/orientatuin, it's insane cool in pitbull ;)
12:27.19ChosiSilviu-
12:28.37abbat_wSilviu-, which mod you use for minimap? Squeenix?
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12:29.30Silviu-Yes
12:29.53sbuoh, does anyone know which addon is responsible for hiding black morast 'status'? (shield, # portals)
12:30.24[Ammo]ckknight: yes borders are different for the different debuff types
12:30.28[Ammo]and customizable
12:30.32ChosiWAU's sorting sucks.
12:30.33ckknightneat
12:30.45Chosiwhy can't all the addon devs name their addons with capital letters
12:30.46Chosi:S
12:31.03[Ammo]the colors are used for the highlight as well
12:31.35abbat_wckknight, you don't plan to add timers for auras?
12:31.50CIA-1103ammo * r32446 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: delFrame the debuff highlight frame onclear
12:31.57[Ammo]abbat_w: that's completely useless
12:32.08[Ammo]and would only work for your own buffs/dbuffs
12:32.22ckknightabbat_w: I might. *shrug*
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12:32.27ckknight[Ammo]: yea, he wants it on his own
12:32.30ckknightI see the point
12:33.35abbat_wHmm.. i always need to know how many time left to fade CoA from me for example
12:33.35ckknightif it's not too complex, it wouldn't be an issue
12:33.35Stephmwanother good Aeus one, http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/275247712.htm
12:33.39[Ammo]Silviu-: I forgot a delframe
12:33.41[Ammo]should be fixed now
12:33.56abbat_wI ask because pitbull auras look very nice. much better then buffalo auras ;)
12:34.11Stephmwyou could see a PitBull_GroupAuraTimers working with a sync chan I guess
12:34.22[Ammo]evilllll
12:34.29abbat_wI just need timers on player frame
12:34.43CIA-1103shiftos * r32447 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer: esES updated in Notes and Waypoints
12:34.45abbat_wNot on party/target/etc
12:34.59abbat_wBut it's not a problem, Buffalo do this
12:35.27evlckknight: how "stable" is the layout files now, I tried creating my own last time but there were so many changes I just gave up.
12:35.37CIA-1103shiftos * r32448 10ClearFont2/ (ClearFont2.toc Core.lua): ClearFont2: added esES (spanish) translation
12:35.37Stephmw[Ammo]: one thing I've noticed with staking debuff auras is the # changes size/location a little randomly
12:35.41ckknightevl: relatively.
12:35.48Stephmw*stacking
12:35.52ckknightany changes here on out are going to be iterative
12:36.00[Ammo]Stephmw: I'll fix that, one sec
12:36.02evlckknight: I'll give it a shot when I come home, does PB include raid frames yet?
12:36.08ckknightyes
12:36.08[Ammo]someone doesn't know how to use SetPoint properly
12:36.16ckknightI did that today
12:36.26evlckknight: nice, I love having my raid showing up as just healthbar in class colors + debuffs
12:36.28Stephmw[Ammo]: no rush, I've got another 4hrs before I can test fixes ;)
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12:36.50ckknightnote: raid frames still need more options, currently there's just one header that has all raid members. I'll make it so there's group headers or class headers later.
12:37.00moonsorrowis a feature planned for pitbull that frames attach to other frames when they are very close?
12:37.12ckknightmoonsorrow: no
12:37.34moonsorrowhow about now? after a feature request? :P
12:37.36sbumh - raid frames are usable yet?
12:38.06sbumhh nvm, think i'll stick to sRF
12:38.15sbuits just exactly what i need ;o
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12:38.55evlmainly because the visible part of frames isn't necessarily the part that it would snap top
12:39.00Silviu-[2007/04/12 15:38:29-68-x1]: Antagonist-30009\Antagonist.lua:560: attempt to concatenate local 'unit' (a nil value)
12:39.33abbat_wi always have this error with antagonist
12:39.44CIA-1103ammo * r32449 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: more consistent positioning off buff and debuff #applications
12:39.50abbat_wand maybe i can't understand antagonist filer sistem ;)
12:39.54abbat_wfilter even
12:40.20abbat_wI check cooldowns which i won't to see but i see it anyway
12:40.52CIA-1103shiftos * r32450 10Prat/ (13 files in 3 dirs): Prat: esES updated
12:41.05sbuis it possible to distinguish between 2 units based on raid icon? (2 mobs named 'evil cat' - but different raid icons)
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12:41.32[Ammo]sbu: not if the only information you have is "evil cat"
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12:42.01MyrathiRoartindon: You have mail.
12:42.14RoartindonHeh, just opening mail now :)
12:42.16ag`does pitbull use secure headers yet?
12:42.19Myrathi:)
12:42.23[Ammo]ag`: yes
12:42.33[Ammo]since an hour or 2 :p
12:42.39ag`aha :P
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12:43.37Roartindonre: svn passwords.. you may need to request a new one
12:43.45Roartindonmine was invalidated about 2 months ago, and I had to get setup again
12:44.06Roartindonre: separating it out: It kind of makes sense, as it also means you can choose to have an icon-only represent the current heroic status
12:44.09MyrathiFigures. Right at the point where I went on a business trip for over a month. -_-
12:44.32Roartindonor choose to have icon+text..
12:44.55MyrathiHmm.
12:45.02RoartindonAnd have the colour text options independent between the two
12:45.11MyrathiOption to show... option to split to seperate bar entry?
12:45.15MyrathiIs that even possible? Oo
12:45.41RoartindonYeah.. create a separate small FuBar_InstanceDifficultyFu addon separately :)
12:45.49MyrathiSplitting it registers itself as a seperate FuBar entry? Unsplitting unregisters and rejoins?
12:45.49ckknightag`: it wasn't _horribly_ painful
12:45.54ckknightag`: still kinda lame, though
12:46.10ag`yeah, I figured you had to change so stuff around
12:46.16ag`the headers set the unit attribute
12:46.42AKXI think it's time to upload FuBar_EmoteFu2.
12:47.05RoartindonMyrathi: I mean, just have all of the functionality as a separate FuBar entity completely.. leave LootType purely as loot type
12:48.03MyrathiI just like having the prefix in with the loot type.
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12:48.46MyrathiNot doing anything just now, anyway. May as well split that off while I've got the files open. =)
12:48.58syerenCkk, why does my player frame and TOTOT frame have a highlight on for no reason?
12:48.59RoartindonIt'll be about 50 lines of code to have a separate addon that reports instance difficulty; and will be easier/cleaner to maintain than trying to shoehorn it in :)
12:49.06CIA-1103ag * r32451 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura: Removed redundant line
12:49.12ckknightsyeren: because you touch yourself at night
12:49.24ckknightsyeren: also, could be a bug with the debuffhighlight, dunno
12:49.35ag`ckknight: you've been reading the blizz boards too much
12:49.41ckknighthow so?
12:49.50ag`...because you touch yourself at night.
12:49.57[Ammo]it's not a bug with the debuff highlight
12:50.09[Ammo]if it's a bug with that then upgrade to latest
12:50.14AKXDoes the color of the highlight depend on how one touches theirselves?
12:50.15MyrathiRoartindon: Not disagreeing. :)
12:50.17[Ammo]because it contained a bug 11 mins ago
12:50.28MyrathiRoartindon: Whatcha think... FuBar_DungDiFu? :p
12:50.45RoartindonWhatever rocks your boat :P
12:50.57RoartindonI've seen ckknight come up with worse!
12:50.59MyrathiWow. I can't type. DungeonDiFu* is what I meant.
12:51.05Roartindonlol
12:51.06MyrathiShitty typo? ;D
12:52.37RoartindonMan, LootTypeFu has a ton of crap in there that's unnecessary
12:52.46RoartindonI wrote that as one of my first FuBar plugins ages ago; I should clean it up with all the stuff that isn't needed removed.
12:53.02syerenckknight, [Ammo]: http://fabrikate.org/wow/HIGHlight.jpg
12:53.14AKXCIA-11, please?
12:53.28AKXYou can do it.. Good bot...
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12:53.37Stephmwsyeren: funkeh
12:53.44AKXPsh, line ending style my ass.
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12:55.01Chosimy pitbull partyframes are gone :(
12:55.21Chosiand my playerframe is only visible when in config mode :O
12:55.39Roartindonsyeren... so I guess that unit on the left is selected? :P
12:56.06MikmaAKX: what'cha exploding
12:56.14AKXTHE WORLD
12:56.19AKX(Za warudo!)
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12:56.31Morghussyeren: What's the hud you're using? It's nice :)
12:56.48CIA-1103akx * r32452 10FuBar_EmoteFu2/ (. EmoteData.lua EmoteFu.lua FuBar_EmoteFu2.toc):
12:56.49CIA-11FuBar_EmoteFu2:
12:56.49CIA-11- Initial commit, this thingy is (loosely) based on the old and busted FuBar_EmoteFu (which again was based on TitanEmoteMenu).
12:56.49CIA-11- No externals, no libraries, none of that done yet. But it should work if FuBar does!
12:56.54AKX\o/
12:57.08Mikmayay for useless addons!
12:57.13syerenNo Roartindon.
12:57.16AKXNot really, Mikma
12:57.19syerenIt's just highlighted for no reason.
12:57.34kenlyricyeah, not useless at all.
12:57.45kenlyricI discovered so many emotes from TitanEmoteMenu
12:57.46syerenAnd the screenshot wasn't to showboat my UI, just to show ckk, but I think him or Ammo fixed it.
12:57.47AKXI'll see if I can find a screenie
12:58.01ckknightammo
12:58.10syerenAnd my hud is IceHud.
12:58.58MorghusI never really fell for HUDs untill OHUD :p
12:59.39AKXhttp://akx.ath.cx/em.jpg <-- EmoteFu2 screenshot.
13:00.15MikmaAKX: fu 2!
13:00.19Mikmalololoo
13:00.26AKXHOW WITTY OF YOU!
13:00.33Mikmayou fight like a cow
13:00.38kenlyricyour mom is witty!
13:00.42kenlyricwait... that doesn't work.
13:00.43AKXI am rubber, you are glue
13:00.44syerenMy damn Player Frame is still highlighted.
13:02.13Roartindon"Self-Depreciating"?
13:02.35JJSheetsokay... what is [difficultycolor] replaced with?
13:02.58CIA-1103akx * r32453 10FuBar_EmoteFu2/: FuBar_EmoteFu2: Added externals, hopefully.
13:03.06AKXRoartindon, I didn't touch the emote data at all :)
13:03.24ckknightJJSheets: that still exists.
13:03.51Chosickknight: what's wrong with pitbull? :\
13:03.55Chosican't see any party frames
13:04.06ckknightworks for me
13:04.17JJSheetsthen why do I have [difficultycolor]29 Warlock... displayed on my player frame?
13:04.25JJSheets:)
13:04.26ckknightJJSheets: dunno
13:04.38ckknightJJSheets: update DogTag-1.0
13:04.43JJSheetsmaybe InfiniBar has infected my Pitbull...
13:04.50JJSheetsah wait no... that's probably it.
13:05.39CIA-1103akx * r32454 10FuBar_EmoteFu2/ (. FuBar_EmoteFu2.toc): FuBar_EmoteFu2: Yeah, well. I _said_ hopefully and I meant it! .. Also, added libraries to .toc.
13:05.55JJSheetsyup... damn libraries...
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13:08.37JJSheetswho made the pitbull frames wider?  :p  and how wide were they before then?  :)
13:08.56HealthRapidCast only useful for mages?
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13:09.45Roartindon_grr.. stupid crappy connection
13:10.15Roartindon_akx: What I was trying to say before was that it's probably meant to be "self-deprecating" rather than "self-depreciating" emotes :)
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13:10.44kenlyricemotes that make you cheaper? those would be nice...
13:11.12syeren[Ammo], my player frame is still highlighted.
13:11.12Roartindon_http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self%20deprecating
13:11.15syerenAnd I have the latest Rev.
13:11.29yacoobWTB: stack of [kenlyric]s!
13:11.35CIA-1103shiftos * r32455 10PallyPower/ (PallyPower.toc locale/esES.lua): PallyPower: added esES (spanish) translation
13:11.49Roartindon_He has to install  EmoteFu2 before you can afford him :P
13:12.19[Ammo]syeren: thhat's the normal highlight
13:12.22[Ammo]not the debuff highlight
13:12.29CIA-1103akx * r32456 10FuBar_EmoteFu2/EmoteData.lua: FuBar_EmoteFu2: Dsanai had been naughty and slipped a typo in the emote data. :( Thanks Roartindon!
13:12.30syerenI don't want any highlight.
13:12.35syerenHence me disabling highlights.
13:12.38[Ammo]THEN TURN IT OFF IN THE FRICKING MENU
13:12.41syerenI DID.
13:12.46AKXFIGHT!
13:13.02StephmwFINISH HIM!
13:13.07[Ammo]there are 2 highlight
13:13.08yacoobPopcorn! Get your popcorn!
13:13.11[Ammo]1 = debuff highlighting
13:13.14JJSheetslmao
13:13.16[Ammo]which you can turn off from the Aura menu
13:13.20[Ammo]the other is target highlighting
13:13.24Chosickknight: it used to work
13:13.26[Ammo]which you can turn of from the Highlight menu
13:13.31Chosibut now there's only "player" in the fubar plugin
13:13.34yacoobFresh kenlyrics!
13:13.37Chosino more group and stuff
13:13.53[Ammo]JJSheets: they were 160 before, now they're 200
13:13.57[Ammo]the width that is
13:14.03[Ammo]but you might want them 150 due to other changes
13:14.22JJSheetsah... k, my SV is updated to that now.  :)
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13:14.52syerenSigh, uploading now.
13:15.24sbuhmm ckknight / [Ammo] - wtb "copy settings from xyz frame" option :o
13:15.30ZealotOnAStickWheee.
13:15.47MorghusI just got an error when I tried to change portraits from right to left in PitBull :p
13:15.55ZealotOnAStickJust sent out e-mail to a few friends seeing if I can wrangle any of them into being a volunteer for True Dungeon this year.
13:16.01Stephmwsbu: or just option inheritance
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13:16.09JJSheetsTrue Dungeon?
13:16.19syeren[Ammo]: http://fabrikate.org/wow/highlightclearlyon.jpg
13:16.51Morghusckknight:
13:16.52Morghus\AddOns\PitBull\Layouts\ABF.lua line 31:
13:16.52Morghus<PROTECTED>
13:17.05[Ammo]syeren: that must be the hover highlight
13:17.16syerenIt isn't.
13:17.23syerenHence me being on the fucking dropdown menu.
13:17.24[Ammo]well it's not the debuff highlight
13:17.47syerenI've disabled every form of highlight on my player frame.
13:17.59syerenAnd /rl'd twice.
13:18.06sbuAKX: hah cheater, i cant click your itemlink :/
13:18.10[Ammo]weird
13:18.15AKXsbu :D
13:18.25AKXIRC didn't disconnect me even though I spoofed an item?!
13:18.32[Ammo]you're clearly not debuffed either
13:18.35[Ammo]so it's not the debuff highlight
13:18.52syerenWant me to check my Lua?
13:18.58syerenSee if any old info is causing it?
13:19.29[Ammo]looks like the Highlight module
13:20.12syeren[Ammo], can you accept Dcc?
13:20.15[Ammo]nope
13:20.17syeren:/
13:20.19[Ammo]ppastey
13:20.40[Ammo]you're a priest right?
13:20.45syerenhttp://fabrikate.org/wow/PitBull.lua
13:20.46syerenYes.
13:20.52[Ammo]set the frame highlighting to All Debuffs
13:20.54[Ammo]and shield yourself
13:20.56[Ammo]does your frame go red?
13:21.07[Ammo]then set it to Never again
13:21.10[Ammo]and shield yourself again
13:21.14[Ammo]does it go not red
13:21.34[Ammo]if that's the case then it's not my debuff highlighter but something else
13:22.00syerenIt just stays yellow Ammo :/
13:22.15[Ammo]euh?
13:22.35[Ammo]weird
13:22.48[Ammo]I think the Highlight module might be bonkers
13:23.10Healthbonkers is a good word
13:23.21[Ammo]yellow = highlight module
13:23.22Ominousi had that too
13:23.28ZealotOnAStickJJSheets: http://www.truedungeon.com
13:23.30[Ammo]any other color = debuff highlighting
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13:24.19syerenWhy do you need a highlight module?
13:24.25syerenIs it designed for fucking retards?
13:24.30[Ammo]no
13:24.32syerenWho don't know where they put their mouse pointer?
13:24.35[Ammo]no
13:24.41Garoun|Loupanareally wish postal would stop deleting my custom contacts grr
13:24.44[Ammo]the highlight module highlights units that are the same target as you
13:24.47syerenhttp://fabrikate.org/wow/shield.jpg
13:24.54ag`chrome://browser/content/browser.xul
13:24.59JoshBorkesyeren: try removing the highlight module from pitbull?
13:25.06JoshBorkesince you obviously don't need it
13:25.22Roartindon_syeren: I think you should watch your attitude. I don't appreciate you talking to Ammo the way you have been
13:25.40[Ammo]syeren: was that with debuff frame highlighting set to All Debuffs
13:25.58syerenRoartindon, I haven't been giving Ammo any abuse at all.
13:26.08syerenHe accused me of being a retard and having my shit on in the first place.
13:26.09[Ammo]I started the abuse somewhat
13:26.17[Ammo]well you blamed my debuff frame stuff
13:26.32syerenAnd what I just said was for highlighting in general on party frames.
13:26.32[Ammo]which should not cause yellow highlighting
13:26.52[Ammo]it's handy for partytargets
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13:27.01[Ammo]so you can see you're on the same target as someone else
13:27.30ag`does xperl and other addons use highlighting of selected and similar units too?
13:27.46JoshBorkewow, 11k health
13:27.57syeren[Ammo], I assume it will be safe for me to remove highlighting and still have your debuff module running?
13:28.04[Ammo]ag`: well, with PitBull I can theoretically put the oRA2 maintanks in :)
13:28.12[Ammo]syeren: delete Highlight.lua
13:28.14[Ammo]or the whole folder
13:28.16[Ammo]restart WoW
13:28.23[Ammo]and see if it still highlights
13:28.26syerenJosh, I can get 12k, I just prefer having more resilience ;p
13:28.29syerenOki Doki.
13:28.52[Ammo]ag`: and then the highlight is handy
13:29.02[Ammo]it should be able to be turned off though
13:29.11[Ammo]and according to the code you can
13:29.13[Ammo]but meh
13:29.27ag`[Ammo]: yes I know, I brought it all the way from minigroup and to minigroup2, then to aguf
13:29.39ag`so I used it, but I had an option to turn it off too
13:29.43ag`because people whine
13:29.47[Ammo]there is an option to turn it off
13:29.53syerenOkay Ammo, bad news.
13:29.58[Ammo]and I don't have the behaviour syeren has
13:29.58syerenI deleted my highlight directory.
13:30.02syerenYet I am still yellow.
13:30.07[Ammo]weird
13:30.14Roartindon_Try deleting your aura directory?
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13:30.32ag`you need to restart wow too
13:30.36ag`if you didn't
13:30.59syerenI did.
13:31.03syerenWhat the hell is this >_<
13:31.16syerenI'll just clean install PitBull.
13:31.17CIA-1103ammo * r32457 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: hide the debuffhighlight harder?
13:31.18NickenyfikenYeah im also yellow :-P
13:31.23[Ammo]try that
13:31.32syerenNickenyfiken has the same problem Ammo :p
13:31.39[Ammo]try 32457
13:32.05NickenyfikenDamn i stopped checking PitBull from SVN a day or so ago
13:32.16Nickenyfikenwaiting for new ZIP
13:33.00syerenI need it on WAU Ammo :p
13:33.14syerenOr atleast on the /files/ directory :)
13:33.19[Ammo]add frame.debuffhighlight:Hide() after line 605
13:33.26[Ammo]in OnUnknownLayout
13:33.31CIA-1103shiftos * r32458 10FuBar_FarmerFu/ (FarmerFuLocale-esES.lua FuBar_FarmerFu.toc): FuBar_FarmerFu: added esES (spanish) translation
13:33.57[Ammo]ah I see
13:34.03[Ammo]you have Debuffs hidden on the frame
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13:34.14syerenI had everything on and off.
13:34.16syerenTo test it Ammo ;p
13:34.21syerenEach with a /rl.
13:34.55syeren[Ammo], am I editing the PitBull.lua?
13:35.04RoartindonNo, Aura.lua
13:35.07RoartindonAura/Aura.lua
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13:35.16syerenThanks :)
13:35.40syerenframe.debuffhighlight:SetAllPoints( frame )
13:35.41syerenframe.debuffhighlight:Hide() after line 605
13:35.41syerenend
13:36.22[Ammo]hmm the debuff highlighting won't work if you have debuffs ignored on the frame since it won't scan them then
13:36.23Roartindonno "after line 605" bit :)
13:36.50syerenAmmo!
13:37.01syerenI am no longer Yellow thanks.
13:37.38syeren[2007/04/12 14:34:00-651-x1]: PitBull-r32437\Aura\Aura.lua:606: '=' expected near 'line'
13:37.38syeren---
13:38.00syerenframe.debuffhighlight:SetAllPoints( frame )
13:38.00syerenframe.debuffhighlight:Hide()
13:38.00syerenend
13:38.02Roartindonyeah, just paste "frame.debuffhighlight:Hide()" don't include "after line 605"
13:38.04syerenNo more of me being a moron :D
13:38.30syeren[Ammo], did I just present you with a new problem with my settings :P?
13:39.10[Ammo]no
13:39.14[Ammo]you just won't get debuff highlighting
13:39.20harldephinlol
13:40.03[Ammo]I'm going to have to add the frame debuff highlight in a separate debuff loop
13:40.04syerenWell I don't even have debuffs enabled to show on my player frame :p
13:40.24[Ammo]yeah if you don't have debuffs on your frame then you don't get the highlight on your frame
13:40.29[Ammo]but I'll fix that later
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13:45.40MikmaJJSheets: lo
13:46.40JJSheetssaw your commit.  I declare it good.
13:46.41Mikmagoodie, nasty bugs :)
13:48.34yacoobnow *that*'s one well laid out UI: http://venus.cs.teiher.gr/~manio/WoW/WoWScrnShot_112106_232507.jpg
13:48.47yacoobeverything's there.
13:48.56sbuis this discord? :o
13:48.57yacoob...wait, I don't see kitchen sink...
13:49.24renchapthe gold ads is included in the ui ?
13:49.37Stephmwhahaha
13:50.07xyumust be a healer
13:50.21JJSheetslol
13:50.22ag`wow, with the new font and font size slider, pitbull looks a lot like ABF now :D
13:50.41[Ammo]ag`: :)
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13:51.05xyuwhat does ABF stand for anyway
13:51.16ag`Ace Bar Frames
13:51.18[Ammo]Ace Bar Frames
13:51.20HealthI want my ClearFont2 default funt there :(
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13:51.25xyuneato
13:51.27ag`it's a layout an old ace addon used
13:51.45ag`then when it died I used it in aguf for ~1 year
13:51.56ZealotOnAStickHealth: which font is that?
13:52.06HealthNot sure
13:52.13HealthI had it before they added that font!
13:52.34HealthI guess we'll have to poke kirk to use the shared stuff
13:52.35ZealotOnAStickIf it's one of the standard CF2 fonts, they're registered with SML now.  The font packs haven't been done yet.
13:52.37ag`should be in the font menu
13:52.56Healthag`: Wasn't in mine. I maybe need to update CF2?
13:53.12ZealotOnAStickYeah, it was added yesterday.
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13:53.16HealthI see
13:53.28ZealotOnAStickI stuck it in for Aloft, but it works nicely with PitBull too.
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13:53.49[Ammo]yeah
13:53.51[Ammo]best of both worlds
13:54.09[Ammo]CF2 users and nonCF2 users can use whatever they have/want
13:54.18ag`the CF2 fonts isn't in my pitbull menu actually
13:54.23ag`strange, as I did svn update today
13:54.35[Ammo]they should be
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13:55.49JJSheetsokay, I'm off to work.... way too damn early in the morning...
13:55.54JJSheetssee ya'll later.
13:56.27Mikmawell anyway the font now in pitbull.... [Ammo], wanna guess my opinnion about it?
13:56.54HealthWhat has happened to Mikma? He's all emo
13:56.58[Ammo]Mikma: select a different one
13:57.01[Ammo]good luck and bye
13:57.08Mikma[Ammo]: you didn't even guess what i like about it
13:57.12[Ammo]rofl
13:57.22Mikmayou just assumed that i hate it, assclown
13:57.35[Ammo]haha
13:57.43[Ammo]because you hate everything about me and my code
13:57.59Mikmawell sometimes i like littlebits but i won't tell that to you
13:58.05Mikmaespecially the font is rather sexy
13:58.12Mikmaalmost as hot as ckknight's mother
13:58.58sbufonts are sexy?
13:59.23Mikmayes
14:00.01sbuhmm
14:00.04[Ammo]syeren: you'll like my next commit
14:00.08CIA-1103ammo * r32459 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: make frame highlight independant of debuff shown or not.
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14:04.06mitch0[Ammo]: when is the frame highlighted?
14:04.23[Ammo]read the menu options
14:04.30[Ammo]if that is not clear enough then nothing will ever be clear enough
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14:04.39mitch0I'm @work now :)
14:04.43mitch0and curious
14:04.52Healthspank the monkey!
14:05.09[Ammo]it has the following options: "Never", "All Debuffs", "Cureable", "Cureable by me"
14:05.25mitch0oh. was hoping for "Under CC effect" :)
14:05.38mitch0can you add that too? :)
14:05.53ag`wouldn't that need a list of all CC debuffs? :P
14:06.24mitch0probly would, but that's not too much really. "Curable by me" also needs a list, right?
14:06.43Stephmwnot really
14:06.53Stephmwlook up spellbook->compare debuf type
14:07.11mitch0ah
14:07.18Stephmwassuming he's not just doing class->debuff type :)
14:07.28mitch0well, anyway, you can use ^Polymorph :)
14:07.32mitch0it's enough for me
14:07.33[Ammo]ag`: it uses the same method agUF used :)
14:08.14ag`Would be cool to have a custom filter
14:08.24ag`so I could see weakened soul
14:08.33syerenckknight ...
14:08.37syeren[Ammo]
14:08.38mitch0but really, there are like 4-5 CC debuffs, poly, sap, ice trap, seduce and to a lesser extent fear
14:08.43syerenMy Party frames completely reset.
14:08.46mitch0probly fear should be excluded anyway
14:08.48syerenAnd config mode isn't working.
14:09.04ag`welcome to alpha
14:09.06Stephmwmitch0: hamstring, dragon's breath...
14:09.08CIA-1103rabbit * r32460 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Bugfix.
14:09.27mitch0Stephmw: hamstring is not borken by damage, DB lasts for like 3 secs
14:09.30[Ammo]syeren: welcome to alpha software
14:09.48mitch0it would only be useful to (better) avoid breaking CC unintentionally
14:10.21syerenI'm about to scream :(
14:10.21syerenI've had to set up party frames pixel perfect 4 tmes this week.
14:10.23syerenWhich involves constantly logging out to change the .lua file.
14:10.24Stephmwmitch0: isn't there SheepDefender for that?
14:10.31syerenDue to slider bars being horrible at their job :/
14:10.50mitch0Stephmw: dunno. what does it do? :)
14:11.10Stephmwmitch0: forces you to attack twice to break a sheep
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14:11.20Stephmwmitch0: or other CC
14:11.27ag`they are currently changing the groups to use secure headers, which means your positions and settings are going to be reset again and again
14:11.37Stephmwmitch0: for sheep, I go by the motto: You spank it, you tank it.
14:11.41[Ammo]and then some more resetting of your groups
14:12.00mitch0Stephmw: well, my main problem was with my elemental :)
14:12.20mitch0but now I sorted that with /petpassive
14:12.29Stephmwmitch0: meh, pets/totems always seem to have this love for CC'd targets
14:12.59mitch0but anyway, it would be a nice visual indication on my focus frame when my poly wears off
14:13.32syerenag`, I have no config mode to even move stuff around anymore though :/
14:13.34[Ammo]you could make a custom module
14:13.38mitch0actually, the coolest thing would be if the frame's alpha were set to 0.5 while under such CC
14:13.44[Ammo]syeren: it was said in the commit note that config mode is broken
14:13.51syeren:(
14:13.59[Ammo]alpha software
14:14.04[Ammo]it's not even close to being done
14:14.13syerenI'm going back to an old revision then :p
14:14.50xyuwhich item should i use for pally: 1. 15sta,15int, 4mp/5 +heal 31.   or 2. 15sta,17,17spi, heal 35?  ^^
14:14.51[Ammo]but as for a CC reminder for PitBull: someone make a module that adds a big round smiley over the frame when the unit is under CC effect :)
14:14.52mitch0[Ammo]: do you get an event when a new buff is placed/removed from a unit?
14:14.59MikmaWho want's to get locked up?!? http://ahboon.net/2007/04/05/a-5-star-prison-in-austria/
14:15.40mitch0I guess scanning the debuffs every frame would be a bit too intesive...
14:15.55Stephmwmitch0: I'd prefer have the frame display in other ways... I keep missing group action when the frames are dimmed
14:16.05syeren[Ammo], please make sure you get the number input thing put in.
14:16.09mitch0I'll look into this though if I'll have some time
14:16.09syerenSlider bars are horrible.
14:16.12syerenAnd always have been.
14:16.19ag`but there's no intarwevbs Mikma !!!!!1
14:16.39mitch0Stephmw: I don't understand that. what do you mean by missing group action?
14:16.41Mikmaag`: that means no wow for prisoners :P
14:16.51ag`-_-
14:16.58ag`I think there's internet in danish prisons
14:17.00ag`not sure thoughj
14:17.21Mikmalet's frame someone and let him tell us is there
14:17.37deltronhow do you say "bubba" in danish?
14:17.39deltronheh
14:18.53Mikmadeltron: like "bubba" perhaps
14:20.08ag`deltron: you mean the equivalent name to bubba in danish?
14:20.18Stephmwmitch0: I'm in the same room as our healer, so it's my job to help notice if group members need healing
14:20.25Stephmwmitch0: hard to see that with dimmed frames
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14:21.04deltronheh I dunno
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14:23.26mitch0well, I'd only turn this on for my focus frame and maybe for the target frame
14:23.35mitch0not for party frames
14:23.49mitch0Stephmw: ^^
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14:25.10vhaarrag`: yeah, there probably is
14:25.15vhaarrag`: norwegian prisons have
14:26.27ag`wonder if they can bring their own computers
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14:28.33xyuhow do i get conjured water to be first in pt3bar  ; ;
14:29.44Elkanoammo, wrt PitBull frame showing highlights/border color for debuffs, in which order are thex priorized?
14:33.44[Ammo]frame highlight needs a small tweak still
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14:33.52[Ammo]but it should prioritize cureable by you over anything else
14:34.00[Ammo]in the color that is
14:34.11[Ammo]doesn't work yet with the "Cureable" setting
14:34.26[Ammo]but if you have it set to Show all debuffs it'll prioritize the color for a cureable debuff
14:34.35[Ammo](not necessarily cureable by you)
14:34.39[Ammo]which is the tweak I need to do
14:36.01[Ammo]Elkano: if that's clear ;)
14:36.06[Ammo]easily fixed though
14:36.42Elkanook :)
14:37.29[Ammo]if you set it to Cureable by me it should only highlight debuffs you can remove
14:37.36[Ammo]based on your class ofcourse not taking level in regard
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14:41.41MorghusElkano!
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14:41.54MorghusAny support for textures in the future on the buffbars? ^^
14:43.31deltronScr3em: where in st. louis?
14:44.00Elkanonot more than it has
14:44.17Scr3emFenton atm, but we're moving to Columbia, MO
14:44.27deltronScr3em: I'm in fenton also :D
14:44.31Scr3emshut up
14:44.34deltrontotally
14:44.39deltroni'm off hawkins
14:44.40Scr3emsmall world lol
14:44.51Scr3emim near the pizza hut on 141
14:44.52deltron141 & hawkins
14:44.57deltronnice :D
14:45.04Scr3emin the small houses :)
14:45.05deltronnot too far away
14:45.07deltronlol
14:45.19Scr3emhow did u know i was in STL?
14:45.23deltronhostmask
14:45.28Scr3emgroovy
14:45.34deltron09:38 -!- Scr3em [n=max@24-107-70-71.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #wowace
14:45.37deltronheh
14:45.40Scr3emah ha
14:46.12deltroncouple of guys in #wow on efnet that live in st. charles
14:47.00Scr3emdo you know of any other wow channels on freenode?
14:47.07Scr3emor efnet
14:47.33MorghusYou could search for it
14:48.48deltronjust #wow on efnet is what I frequent
14:49.37Scr3emdunno how to search irc
14:49.59deltronguy in #wow on efnet runs wowmirror.ocm
14:50.01deltronerr .com
14:50.12Scr3emcool
14:50.28Scr3emwhat server are you on? i'm on Thrall (originally on Alleria)
14:53.05deltronsuramar, horde, shaman named diode
14:53.19AKXJust you wait, Transistor is nearby.
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14:53.52kaidenckknight, oh noes :P Pitbull's broken :P
14:54.45Ominouskaiden: no its not
14:55.16kaideni'm getting some weird lua errors about line 286 with unit being nil
14:55.38Ominousupdate it, there were lots of bugs earlier
14:55.50kaideni just updated it less than 2 mins ago but ok
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14:56.48kaidennope, still showing it
14:58.28Mikma[Ammo]: yo. wanna hear a bug?
14:59.20Mikmaor ckknight
14:59.37ElkanoMorghus, or are you missing anything special about the textures?
15:00.43Ordoggday
15:01.06CIA-1103shiftos * r32461 10Omnibus/Omnibus_esES.lua: Omnibus: esES updated
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15:01.28[Ammo]Mikma: sure
15:02.22Mikma[Ammo]: it's a bug about ToT highlighting. i'll put a SS up to explain it better
15:03.02kaidenOminous, uninstalled and reinstalled just to make sure it wasn't me and nope there's still an error on line 286 (attempt to index local 'unit' (a nil value))
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15:06.37Gagorian~seen cncfanatics
15:07.15purlcncfanatics <n=cvcncfan@41.87-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 22h 35m 40s ago, saying: 'it sucks though :;('.
15:07.34Mikma[Ammo]: ok now. http://wow.reaktio.net/tot.jpg
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15:08.09deltronMikma: your issue still broken?
15:08.27Mikmadeltron: i think, i'll recheck is my rev latest
15:08.28[Ammo]haha mikma nice
15:08.48[Ammo]using the latest btw?
15:08.57[Ammo]oh probably
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15:08.58[Ammo]fixing
15:09.13Mikma[Ammo]: and there's some highlighting problems with partymembers too.
15:09.35Mikma[Ammo]: if you're using pitbull test this. target someone and disable and enable the ToT highlighting couple of times :D
15:09.57Mikma[Ammo]: the highlight sicks around and doesn't go away. then PitBull makes another highlight ontop of it etc
15:10.19[Ammo]yeah I guess I know what's causing it
15:10.21[Ammo]I'll fix it
15:10.39Mikma[Ammo]: add a recheck there not to create a frame with texture, perhaps :)
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15:11.45[Ammo]yeah something silly like that
15:11.52[Ammo]I'll look into it
15:11.58[Ammo]first another update
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15:12.20CIA-1103ammo * r32462 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: prioritize cureable by me over cureable over other debuffs for frame highlighting
15:12.28Mikma[Ammo]: same bug happens to Partymembers, Party Target, and ToT :D
15:13.07Mikmaoh, and it doesn't remember the "hide highlight" setting
15:13.12Mikmasmall things hehe
15:13.16[Ammo]that's not my highlight
15:13.28[Ammo]I'm doing the debuff highlighting
15:13.34[Ammo]not the normal highlighting
15:13.40MorghusElkano, I seem to remember there was a texture option at some point, but I can't find it now. What I was looking for was being able to add i.e. LiteStep texture there instead of what I have now. ( might be some other addon I remember though )
15:13.44Mikmaoh hmm, then who's doing the normal highlight?
15:14.04ag`zomg a chopper flew over my house!!!
15:15.17Mikmanice one
15:15.20[Ammo]found your issue mikma
15:15.31Mikmais niiiice!
15:15.35[Ammo]correcting it
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15:16.39kaideni'm surprised i'm the only one having this problem with pitbull i reverted back to the last one released yesterday and it works fine, oh well
15:16.41Mikma[Ammo]: will there be a "group buffs" sometime? meaning that there won't be a huge space between buffs
15:16.53ElkanoMorghus, you are using EBBs, aren't you?
15:17.05[Ammo]Mikma: snap...
15:17.08[Ammo]option is there
15:17.18Mikmaok, gotta check it then
15:17.33Mikmai like having 6 buffs and 4 buffs shown on same line.
15:17.40Mikmano need to have more as priest hehe
15:17.49Mikma4 debuffs* ofc
15:18.11[Ammo]I ran into another issue which I'm fixing atm
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15:20.06Mikmaoh baby when you talk like thaaaat, you make, a (wo)man go maaaad
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15:21.32GagorianI'm afraid to think what it would look like when Mikma shakes his hips irl to that :l
15:21.44MikmaGagorian: i do a helicopter
15:21.57Mikmai leave hipshaking to shakira
15:22.14Mikmahttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=helicopter
15:22.47Mikmanr.3 is the best lol
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15:26.18CIA-1103ammo * r32463 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: fix issue with lingering highlight frame in Aura module when certain hidden options were toggled.
15:26.20[Ammo]Mikma: try that commit
15:27.18Mikmawill do
15:28.19Mikma[Ammo]: hmm, but my problems weren't about auras
15:29.21Mikmahttp://www.zippyvideos.com/3512564481834916/f1_engine_test/ <- the most sexy thing i have seen in a long time
15:29.24[Ammo]euhm
15:29.29[Ammo]I think they were :p
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15:29.56[Ammo]but I'll check the normal highlight
15:30.15Mikmai'll still test that one to see what happens
15:30.31[Ammo]I can't reproduce your problem
15:30.34[Ammo]so be exact :)
15:30.53Mikmawell i'll try to explain what i did. i just selected different characters
15:30.56Mikmanpc's, players, mobs
15:32.07Mikma[Ammo]: well i can't get it to happen either anymore. i'll retest it later, gotta go bbq now. but as far as i see, it's fixed now
15:32.14sedatedChipmunklol
15:32.14[Ammo]I think it was the auras
15:32.17[Ammo]which I fixed
15:32.25[Ammo]there was some shortcut logic in the aura module
15:32.35[Ammo]but with the extra highlight frame that logic was flawed
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15:37.39[Ammo]but the debuff highlight looks purty
15:38.26Stephmwhow expensive is it to animate frames?
15:38.34Stephmwsize/location
15:38.46Antiarc|WorkMorning, folks.
15:39.16[Ammo]Stephmw: depends on how much you change about them
15:39.26[Ammo]but not that expensive
15:39.47[Ammo]simple SetPoint's and SetWidth, SetHeight in an onupdate/repeatingevent
15:40.00MorghusElkano, yes I am. Am I missing something that should be apparent to me, or?
15:40.53Elkanowell, you can set the texture for each of the bar groups. the textures are provided via SharedMediaLib.
15:41.04sedatedChipmunkdon't bother; we'll take care of the making you feel dumb np
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15:41.15Stephmw[Ammo]: ok, might get my feet wet with a mod on top of your auras :)
15:41.29ElkanoSo if the only option for a texture is "Blizzard" then you don't have an addon providing any additional textures like eg SharedMedia does
15:41.45MorghusI installed Surfaces
15:42.06[Ammo]Stephmw: just remember you can't move secureframes in combat from a script
15:42.39Stephmw[Ammo]: hmmm, ok, here's the idea, you can say whether it'll break ;)
15:42.49[Ammo]I was thinking pulsating highlights btw :)
15:42.55[Ammo]if you can cure them
15:42.58hyperChipmunkElkano: you gotta get some sort of icon it EBBs; anything at all, so fubar doesn't have to display 'ElkBuffBars'
15:42.59Stephmw[Ammo]: start debuf large, over where it'll be later, animate down to normal size/loc
15:43.07[Ammo]ah ok
15:43.10[Ammo]not my auras dunno
15:43.13[Ammo]it might break stuff
15:43.24ElkanohC, I know, I'm still looking for a good one
15:43.36FrostByghteis there something for Ace2 that keeps track of events in AV?
15:44.03Stephmwckknight: ^^ think that'll break in combat?
15:44.03hyperChipmunkstick a dummy one in there
15:44.03hyperChipmunkmake it that fruity looking dev guy or something =)
15:44.07ElkanoCapping?
15:44.37Stephmw[Ammo]: I had a go at pulsating highlights with discord back in the days...
15:44.47Stephmw[Ammo]: your brain start ignoring them
15:44.54MorghusElkano, is there some option I am missing for textures?
15:44.55JoshBorkepretty sure that the auras are not secure
15:45.03JoshBorkecheck the code though, see how they are created
15:45.28ElkanoMorghus: hmm Surfaces registers its textures with SurfaceLib and SharedMediaLib should also get those :/
15:45.56FrostByghteI'm looking for something that will track flags and special events in alterac valley
15:46.05kenlyricepic http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/274257484.htm
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15:46.32ElkanoMorghus: which textures are listed under "bar layout - bar - bar texture"?
15:46.41MorghusThere's no such option.
15:46.52ElkanoFrostByghte: as I said, capping
15:47.05ElkanoMorghus, sure you are using EBBs?
15:47.08FrostByghteI didn't know if you were talking to me :)
15:47.15FrostByghtesorry
15:47.41FrostByghtethank you, I'll check it out asap
15:47.44MorghusI type /ebb - > I get : ElkBuffBar command line options :)
15:48.16MorghusI get the impression I'm missing something. I'll reinstall it from scratch
15:48.29ElkanoÂī
15:48.29Megalon/ebb was the comand line for ElkBuffBar
15:48.43Megalonbut there is the new version, with the 's' at the end :o
15:48.44ElkanoMorghus: are you running EBB or EBBs?
15:50.35MorghusElkano, from toc: Title: Elkano's BuffBar
15:50.55MorghusThat's the only Elk I have
15:51.03Morghus( bad pun, I know :P )
15:51.49Stephmw[Ammo], Josh_Borke: actually... just thinking about this, it doesn't need to be the debuff that's animated... I could use just a red square using the same code as interaction lines
15:52.15NickenyfikenElkano: what's up?
15:52.57ElkanoMorghus: then try ElkBuffBars ^^
15:53.30ElkanoNickenyfiken: will you update the notes code of the TrainerFu branch to use the same detection code as the main addon?
15:53.53MorghusA new version Elkano?
15:54.06ElkanoNickenyfiken: since the current code seems to be the old one and is having trouble with some trainers the base addon catches
15:54.12ElkanoMorghus: 100% recode :)
15:54.20MorghusNice. What's new?
15:54.28NickenyfikenBah that module is a mess
15:54.30MorghusOr improved ;)
15:54.40NickenyfikenCan't you use Cartographer Trainer? :-P
15:54.49sbuah same here as for pitbull Elkano: wtb "copy settings from group xyz" function ;)
15:55.24NickenyfikenHmm actually i have never tried Carto_Trainer
15:55.27Nickenyfikendoes it work ok?
15:55.39MorghusElkano, you were faster than me on textures? :(
15:55.39Morghus:P
15:55.53Elkanoiirc Cartographer_Trainer disables itself if TrianerFu is present ^^
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15:56.17Bombihellou ppl
15:57.10NickenyfikenOk, well what I need to know is if there is a need for TrainerFu note module?
15:57.12ElkanoNickenyfiken, you could make it that the notes data is build from the trainer db which should work since you have the coordinates stored
15:58.23NickenyfikenYeah, i should
15:58.50art3misbooooooooo
15:58.59art3mismy fishing buddy broke after it auto lured
15:59.03art3misim sad
16:01.16MorghusElkano, how do you remove the "fluff", and make it look like previous version, with just the bars.
16:01.55Morghus( And it's a really nice version by the way. Alot of options :) )
16:02.20ElkanoMorghus, which 'fluff'? tried hiding the anchor?
16:03.24MorghusOooh, I could add debuffs and such too :D
16:03.41MorghusNice. Really nice. With the anchor gone it's really hot. Well done!
16:03.53Silviu-Which was the command to see what frame i am hovering my mouse on ? /print getmousefocus ?
16:04.49MorghusI'll have to notify guildies. There was others looking for the same options :)
16:05.25hyperChipmunkknow what's more fun than a 30-minute kite?
16:05.36vhaarra 60-minute one?
16:05.45hyperChipmunkrunning out of ammo after 29 minutes
16:05.51vhaarrouch
16:05.53hyperChipmunk>8(
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16:06.44ElkanoMorghus: but remember that it's still in beta so there could be some bugs left in. but since I started the beta the amount of buffs has reduced a lot :)
16:06.58FrostByghtePitbull updated and seems to have lost my layout
16:07.29MorghusElkano, ever tried coolDown, and seen how it looks?
16:08.02Silviu-Ok, in middle of my screen where should be nothing is a pitbull frame "invisible" :0
16:08.24FrostByghtemy party frames moved to the center of the screen
16:08.31MorghusSilviu-: Had the same problem last night while tanking Maulgar :P
16:08.46Silviu-I moved them hmm
16:09.14Silviu-I have them today with this new updates
16:09.25FrostByghtecan you move them now?  I can't get mine to move
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16:10.05hyperChipmunkunlock 'em
16:10.11Silviu-I can move them yes, but i still have something invisible there
16:10.17FrostByghtethey were unlocked, seems I have to grab them at the bottom
16:10.18Silviu-That don`t let me mouse over things
16:10.19Silviu-:)
16:11.11MorghusElkano, would it be possible to configure, as a separate module or something, an option for the bars to blink or change colour or even add a small yellow box at the end of them to signify Curse/Poison/Magic on the debuffs?
16:11.49Morghus*yellow = appropriate colours
16:12.12ElkanoMorghus, by default the bar itself should be colored that way and the iconborder, too
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16:13.25MorghusI suppose I was more hooked on the "little box"-idea, like a "Look at me!" :P
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16:13.28Silviu-Oh, party pet o.O
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16:13.53MorghusAnyways, I need to be off.
16:14.05Silviu-that is in middle of my screen invisible
16:14.31MegalonElkano: in EEBs, is it possible to copy the layout settings from one bargroup to another? or only the way to edit the options of each group by it's own?
16:14.47Elkanoonly the latter atm
16:16.42Megalonk
16:17.33FrostByghtePitbulls configuration mode seems broken, where you are able to see frames and move them around without being in a party or raid
16:17.52CIA-1103rabbit * r32464 10BigWigs/ (LoadOnDemand.lua Plugins/Version.lua): BigWigs: Version: Responds with "Not loaded" if the player has a LoD addon for the given zone that has not loaded yet.
16:19.54Silviu-FrostByghte yes it`s broken too
16:20.55knarf^_^Anyone can give me some pointers how to get the raids you are locked too ?
16:20.56FrostByghtewell I like the fonts...that seems new
16:21.05FrostByghteleast I don't remember that ;)
16:21.41CIA-1103helium * r32465 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFuLocals.zhTW.lua:
16:21.41CIA-11FuBar_FriendsFu:
16:21.41CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
16:21.45FrostByghteonly problems I've run into were my party frames changed size and were in the middle of my screen, and the configuration mode no longer works
16:21.49chutwighttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94959528&sid=1 !
16:21.54chutwigmore 2.1.0 crap
16:22.42CIA-1103rabbit * r32466 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: Hydross: frFR by Atcha.
16:25.06kenlyricthe new darkmoon cards weren't a hoax?
16:25.24vhaarrmakes you wonder what else in the fake patch notes are real
16:25.31vhaarris*
16:26.44kenlyrichopefully some of the things i want :)
16:27.22vhaarr^^
16:27.59chutwigif you're hoping for a buff to priests
16:28.20Matrix110*holy
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16:31.33moonsorrowah, I can't move my party frames in pitbull
16:31.40moonsorrowthey are stuck in the middle of the window
16:32.12kenlyricchutwig: lol! as if.
16:32.23chutwigcheck to see if they're locked?
16:32.27moonsorrowlol, now I had one second where I could click them, now they are stuck to my mouse :(
16:32.33MyrathiHmm. Anyone know how I make a Photoshop-created .TGA act with transparency in WoW?
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16:33.00moonsorrowchutwig: I'm not stupid :)
16:33.43chutwigoh
16:33.49chutwigthat happens to me with oRA sometimes
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16:33.54chutwigthe MT frame gets stuck to the mouse
16:34.04chutwigmoonsorrow: i'm just asking, sometimes it's easy to overlook the simple things
16:35.35moonsorrowit works better now after a reload, but I had the problem just after entering the game
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16:36.55FrostByghtemoonsorrow: I had to click at the bottom of the frame to get mine to move
16:37.35moonsorrowbut there wasn't even a highlighting of the frames
16:39.05FrostByghtethe size of my frames changed as well
16:39.22FrostByghtemine wouldn't highlight until I moused over a section at the bottom, then all was well after that
16:41.52moonsorrowhm.. maybe they were displayed in the middle but were actually in their original position?
16:44.04FrostByghteok, I have a frame in the middle of my screen and I can't click on any of my icons
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16:45.12moonsorrowsomething is really weird for me, some areas aren't clickable at all for me now (in the world frame)
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16:45.13FrostByghtethere seems to be an invisible frame in the middle of the screen
16:45.13moonsorrowhmm... it's like the raid frames are all there, but not visible
16:46.04moonsorrowshowing and hiding them fixes it :)
16:46.10Killmoreomg, - Primal Nethers may now be puchased from G'eras for Badges of Justice.
16:46.27chutwigcan anyone pastey the notes from the euro forums
16:46.30chutwigthey're unreachable for me
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16:46.54Silviu-FrostByghte /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
16:46.54FrostByghtelol...ya it's the raid frames alright
16:47.07Silviu-I managed to get rid of all in middle
16:47.09FrostByghteI've managed to click on them, and they are active but I can't release them
16:47.11Silviu-By enable all
16:47.14Silviu-and disable them
16:47.18Silviu-i got around 8 errors
16:47.20Silviu-reload
16:47.23Silviu-and now is all gone
16:47.23Silviu-:D
16:47.48Silviu-Brb comp reboot :)
16:48.16FISKER_Qcan anyone access the eu forums?
16:49.30KirkburnCross posting is fun ....
16:49.30KirkburnNew graveyards, flightpoints and flightpaths! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94959528&sid=1
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16:50.38hyperChipmunkO_o finally emerald sanctuary has one
16:50.44nuoHephttp://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?p=325058#post325058 http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?p=325073#post325073
16:50.58chutwigej forums are dead
16:51.07nuoHepyeah %)
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16:53.44moonsorrow[Ammo]: who is currently working on the casting bar module?
16:54.06nuoHepwell, basically http://www.pastey.net/11927 . 3 posts by Tigole @ ej forums
16:54.20[Ammo]moonsorrow: not really
16:54.32[Ammo]but why?
16:54.39[Ammo]oh, the question was who
16:54.46[Ammo]roartindon fixed some bugs
16:54.50[Ammo]but the features are mostly mine
16:55.46moonsorrowbecause channeling has got the same bug like in aguf sometimes now
16:55.49HealthSo.. they're basicly making alchemists+herbalists useless?
16:55.59moonsorrowit's white with no icon and doesn't stop
16:56.53hyperChipmunkonly if your idea of their usefulness extends only to their ability to give you 15 buffs at once
16:57.02knarf^_^When you set a texture is it relative to your mod ?
16:57.47HealthhyperChipmunk: Did you read the pastey link?
16:58.01HealthEasy access to a bunch of potions and flasks
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16:58.05Healthwithout alchemy
16:58.12hyperChipmunkpersonally, i've only ever used elixirs for a special occasion, and even then only just one; i've never used a flask
16:58.25hyperChipmunkwell, potions are already easy-access
16:58.42FrostByghtecan I move back to the older version of pitbull without messing everything up even more?
16:58.45hyperChipmunkflasks, i've never really seen a need for anyway
16:58.54moonsorrow[Ammo]: recognized something: When someone joins the raid group, all the casting bars switch to white with no color
16:59.19hyperChipmunkexcept for pvp
16:59.22FrostByghteeverytime I reloadui my frames are a different size, when I attempt to move a frame I cannot release it
16:59.33hyperChipmunkflasks handy in pvp because they persist through death
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17:01.55Daemonagrml why the heck is pitbull showing party frames in raid though i check hidden? specifically only shows buffs and transparent unitframes for party members.
17:01.57FISKER_QAwesome
17:02.04FISKER_QI need to find someone to craft my healing bracers
17:02.17FISKER_Qand the only one i know off was in an accident a couple of days ago
17:02.29FISKER_QGod hates me, and everyone who will assist me :o
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17:03.04chutwighttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94849591&sid=1 profession notes
17:03.14chutwigfull list this time
17:03.32deltronnice
17:03.46chutwig""Invulnerability" potions now stop the first 120 damage per hit for 8 seconds, rather than making the imbiber physically immune. "
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17:03.54chutwigit's not a friggin' invuln pot then, is it
17:04.28FISKER_QNigh Invulnerabillity potion!
17:04.34FISKER_Qor
17:04.43FISKER_QNot Really Invulnerabillity but cooool potion
17:04.52chutwig"Essences (Earth, Fire, Air, Water, Living) have had their drop rates significantly increased. Also Outland creatures that dropped motes will now have a chance of dropping essences as well. "
17:04.56chutwiggosh because i was just thinking to myself
17:05.04chutwigit sure would be swell if i could get some essences of fire
17:05.17Kirkburnchutwig, thanks for the link
17:05.24FISKER_Qno i get it
17:05.27KirkburnI reposted it to other channels :)
17:05.32FISKER_QJust "Invulnerabillity" Potion
17:05.42FISKER_Q"This potion will make you "Invulnerable"..."
17:05.43FISKER_Qhehe
17:05.54KirkburnY'know, they might as well just post the full patch notes now :P
17:06.08KirkburnWe know the UI changes, prof changes, world changes, class changes
17:06.16KirkburnItem changes
17:06.17Daemonaclass changes?
17:06.21Daemonagief rogue changes
17:06.21chutwigwe don't authoritatively KNOW the class changes yet
17:06.28chutwigjust the usual rumormongering
17:06.33Kirkburnhttp://pastey.net/11284
17:06.40hyperChipmunkO_o fused wiring recipe
17:06.49chutwigother than that those have yet to be proven
17:06.50KirkburnThe Darkmoon item change is identical to the just announced notes
17:06.53hyperChipmunk"Adamantite Shells" now require less adamantite and do slightly more damage.  yay
17:06.57chutwigwell, gosh, that's swell
17:07.03chutwigwhen it shows up in blue text, then i'll believe it
17:07.35KirkburnIt was pasted on the 9th
17:07.50KirkburnThe identical blue note was posted today
17:08.07chutwigwhen it shows up in blue text, then i'll believe it
17:08.18KirkburnWhich I just said?
17:08.22chutwigALL of it, not just one thing that happens to coincide
17:08.31hyperChipmunkheheh "Enchant Weapon- "Major Spellpower" enchant has been stolen from the Razaani spell thieves by the Bash'ir spell thieves. The Bash'ir are more likely to have the recipe than the Razaani previously did, however. "
17:08.32KirkburnHappens to coincide? Read the note.
17:08.49KirkburnPastey: Additional darkmoon cards can now be found on high level outland creatures. They can be turned in to the darkmoon faire to make powerful new darkmoon card trinkets. Look for Lunacy, Storms, Furies and Blessings cards
17:08.55KirkburnForum: You will now have the chance to find additional Darkmoon cards (Lunacy, Storms, Furies and Blessings) on high level creatures in Outlands, which you can turn in to the Darkmoon Faire to make powerful new Darkmoon card trinkets.
17:09.08Scre3mgot a link to the notes?
17:09.09hyperChipmunk"The location of many of the Outland mineral nodes have been adjusted both to put them in locations that are more traveled and to make them more likely to be near creatures. " NOOOOOOOOOOOOo
17:09.18chutwigi know they match up, but that still doesn't make everything else in the pastey ones true by default
17:09.19KirkburnDisbelieve the rest if you want though :)
17:09.26hyperChipmunklolol gotta start my cartographer all over
17:09.26chutwigeven if they came from a credible source they are still subject to change
17:09.35KirkburnWell, sure, of course
17:09.44KirkburnI don't think 3 days allows for much change though
17:10.04chutwigseemed to be all the time they needed to permanently break paladin DPS back when the game was released
17:10.17hyperChipmunklooks like they took out the new goggle recipes
17:10.40chutwigprobably because they were universally excoriated
17:11.27GnarfozhyperChipmunk: or you'll just wait a while and then use a freshly extracted db from wowhead? :0
17:12.02Kirkburnchutwig, aww, let me be naive, and I'll let you be jaded and cynical :P
17:12.04hyperChipmunkno, i mean they were previously part of the 'partial' profession change notes, and they're not in the 'full' notes
17:12.26chutwigKirkburn: i just assume the worst now so that i'm never let down
17:12.33Kirkburnheh
17:12.50KirkburnAnd I don't play much, so even if it's bad I don't really find out :P
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17:13.12Kirkburn(then I can live in my Happy World of Joy, thinking all is well)
17:13.39[Ammo]moonsorrow: hmm that could be a new thing from the secureheaders
17:13.46[Ammo]probably some update has to be fired or something
17:14.01phybercan anyone confirm if the item subtype of a mining bag is "Mining Bag"?
17:14.21FISKER_Qif those notes are correct
17:14.21phyberit would seem to fit, but I'd rather be sure before adding it to BagFu ;)
17:14.22FISKER_Q-Illumination only gives 50% of the mana cost of crit heals also returns correct mana amount when used with rank 4 or 5 of Holy Shock  
17:14.24FISKER_QFUCK YOU blizzard
17:14.29Gnarfozomg yay
17:14.30GnarfozGathering skills no longer fail when you have reached the maximum skill possible.
17:14.46Gnarfozyeah, that's lame FISKER_Q ^^
17:14.51phyberGnarfoz: awesome.  no more failing to PULL A FLOWER OUT OF THE GROUND
17:15.05phyberbecause that's like, difficult.
17:15.09moonsorrow[Ammo]: concerning the casting bars or the transparent raid frames?
17:15.14Gnarfozyea that's one of those things that always made me wonder
17:15.15Gnarfoz:D
17:15.20hyperChipmunkphyber: actually
17:15.25[Ammo]moonsorrow: both actually :)
17:15.30KillmoreFISKER_Q>: where ?
17:15.33trhphyber: hey.. don't underestimate the complexity of pulling a flower out of the ground
17:15.41chutwigi'm glad they moved the spell damage recipe
17:15.46chutwignobody ever goes up to the bash'ir
17:15.49hyperChipmunkit's more pulling the relevant portion of a flower out of the ground without rendering the useful parts inert or otherwise unusable
17:15.58Gnarfozspellpower now on ds9
17:16.00Gnarfoz=D
17:16.10hyperChipmunkhehe
17:16.50chutwigtwp new consortium tribes have appeared, the sis'ko and the du'kat
17:17.00hyperChipmunkthey're turning all the fly-only areas into quest areas now
17:17.15hyperChipmunkso people will go there now
17:18.48Gnarfozchutwig: I actually figure that will happen one day :D
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17:19.40Gnarfozlol
17:19.41Gnarfoz<zenzelezz> 2.1.1 patch notes: - Mobs near ore veins are now elite
17:19.42Antiarc|WorkWhoa.
17:19.52Antiarc|WorkTigole says: -Flask powers have been GREATLY reduced.
17:19.55Antiarc|Work--Reagent costs for flasks have been ****GREATLY**** reduced.
17:19.57Antiarc|Work--Flasks take up both your offenseive AND defensive elixir slots. 1 Flask or 2 elixirs -- you choose.
17:19.59Antiarc|Work--Raid DPS has gone up (Glancing Blow and Class Changes)
17:20.01Antiarc|Work--Encounters where DPS was not a "flasking factor" (i.e. tuned around the HP flasks, elixir of mastery, defense etc). will be retuned.
17:20.05CIA-1103phyber * r32467 10FuBar_BagFu/ (BagFu.lua BagFuLocale-enUS.lua):
17:20.05CIA-11FuBar_BagFu:
17:20.05CIA-11- Added Mining Bags and Gem Bags to the profession bags. This should work, assuming their subtype is 'Mining Bag' and 'Gem Bag', respectivly.
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17:20.18Antiarc|WorkRaiders will have access to easy-to-access flasks in SSC, TK, Hyjal and Black Temple. Dungeon goers will have easy access to potions in Coilfang and TK 5-mans.
17:20.21ChosihyperChipmunk
17:20.24Antiarc|Workmy point is that there are MANY changes incoming. reserve judgement until all of the information is available and then TEST THEM OUT on the test server while we can make changes!
17:20.25Chosiwhere did you read that stuff?
17:20.26FISKER_Qwhere Antiarc|Work ?
17:20.28CIA-1103helium * r32468 10FuBar_FactionsFu/Locales/FuBar_FactionsFu.zhTW.lua:
17:20.28CIA-11FuBar_FactionsFu
17:20.28CIA-11- updated zhTW locale, typo
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17:20.44Antiarc|WorkElitist Jerks forum, FISKER_Q
17:20.47GngskAntiarc|Work, how about a link instead of a bunch of spam?
17:20.48Antiarc|Workhttp://elitistjerks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15
17:20.53Gngskthanks...
17:20.54Antiarc|WorkBecause the forum is down :)
17:20.57Antiarc|WorkBecause it got Tigole'd!
17:20.58CIA-1103helium * r32469 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua:
17:20.58CIA-11WitchHunt:
17:20.58CIA-11- updated zhTW locale, typo
17:21.23Gngskso tigole posted on EJ forums?
17:21.31Antiarc|WorkYes, he does so from time to time.
17:21.51Gngskinteresting
17:21.58NeoTronwhy would that cause them from shutting down the forums?
17:22.00Daemonayeah and shortly after the database broke down due to load
17:22.03GngskI only recently started visiting those forums
17:22.11deltronlol
17:22.17NeoTronah I see. doh :P
17:22.18moonsorrowWhat I'm really interested in the patch is the possibility to look at the addon memory and processing time it uses, no more guessing
17:22.34deltronis elitist jerks a spinoff of goon squad?
17:22.36hyperChipmunkyea, i think we're all salivating for that
17:23.00Daemonamoonsorrow tab back and heal me ;)
17:23.08Antiarc|Workdeltron: Yes
17:23.08hyperChipmunklol
17:23.10moonsorrowyou are full, stop complaining
17:23.25Antiarc|WorkSpecifically, EJ is basically the Goon Squad from the 1.0 alpha/beta.
17:23.31deltronAntiarc|Work: suspected as much
17:23.50deltronI was there in beta
17:23.54deltronit was so painful :(
17:24.57FISKER_QAntiarc|Work is the last part in general or the testservers only?
17:25.19Antiarc|WorkIt sounded like in general
17:25.29Antiarc|Workie, you can purchase consumables with drops from the instance
17:25.35Antiarc|Work"For example, 1 Coilfang Armament = 1 super mana potion (zone specific) in the coilfangs."
17:25.38deltronso what did tigole post on EJ forums?
17:25.50Killmore<PROTECTED>
17:25.51Killmore- http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?p=325073#post325073
17:26.07deltronheh database error
17:26.21Antiarc|Workhttp://pastey.net/11931 <-- that
17:26.44FISKER_Qawesome
17:26.58NightHawkTheSaneinteresting
17:27.50deltronwhy you would not sell that coilfang armament and buy a stack of pots I wouldn't understand :P
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17:28.29nuoHepi posted it 30 minutes ago and noone looked at it :/
17:28.51FISKER_Qi'm so fucking pissed now
17:29.01deltroni wasn't here :P
17:29.03xyuanyone use rapidcast w/ clique?  
17:29.12FISKER_QI fucking rerolled just to play a class that was somewhat useful in pve
17:29.18FISKER_Qnow i'm getting the shaft again
17:29.26CIA-1103rabbit * r32470 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua:
17:29.26CIA-11BigWigs: Bars:
17:29.26CIA-11<PROTECTED>
17:29.26CIA-11* Modules can now provide :GetBarGroupId(barText), which should return a group
17:29.26CIA-11ID to register the specified bar for - note that the module will have to set the
17:29.27CIA-11groups position and growth direction itself, through the Bars module.
17:29.28xyuwait what?
17:29.31FISKER_QI hope this shit is fake
17:29.33xyupatch notes?
17:29.36GngskFISKER_Q, grats
17:29.45FISKER_Qhttp://pastey.net/11734 <-
17:30.01FISKER_QPresumed but since he atleast got one thing right sofar there's reason to believe they're real
17:30.17FISKER_QThey're nerfing Illumination to 50% mana regained from heal crits
17:30.23NightHawkTheSaneFISKER_Q: there's two types of classes: Ones that are useful, but get burned out fast. Ones that arn't useful. And Warlocks/Spriests.
17:30.39deltron34-Windfury Weapon, mixing 2 ranks while dual wielding will no longer increase the number of windfury procs  <-- that's been a long time coming
17:31.13Gnarfozyeah
17:31.20Gnarfozthat's been common knowledge for a while
17:31.26Gnarfozbut nerfing paladin healing? -.-
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17:31.36xyuThey nerfed pally healing? where?
17:31.37NightHawkTheSanemeh, you had to see SOME nerfs coming
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17:31.45xyuwahh
17:31.55NightHawkTheSanethey really were too good at single target heals
17:32.12FISKER_QI still don't get why the fuck priests should be the only good healers
17:32.20GnarfozI was pissed of at the uselessness of my rogue in pve, so instead of wasting further time gearing him up after I hit 70, I rerolled paladin :\ now I'm 54 and they change that sweet crits are free stuff in holy? >_<
17:32.21FISKER_QI don't want to tank, i don't want to dps, i want to heal and be fucking good at it
17:32.31FISKER_Qi'm level 70 Gnarfoz
17:32.34GnarfozI no
17:32.35FISKER_Qi'm fucking devastated
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17:32.50NightHawkTheSaneEr, the only thing that affects pally healing is the longeveity to some extent.
17:32.54GnarfozI mean, I could still just ... tank or whatever (I'm leveling as prot anyway)
17:32.56NightHawkTheSaneYou still have the same thruput
17:32.56FISKER_QI think blizzard are following me to bring bad luck to me
17:33.27Gnarfozheh, I specced ret for 2 hours last evening, just to have tried it once... blergh
17:33.52FISKER_QExactly at that's what made them not suck, as soon as i'm done they can just as well put me out of the raid cause i'm fucking useless then
17:34.08FISKER_QBeing able to sustain healing for a longer while is mandatory imo
17:34.22Antiarc|Worklern2mp5? :P
17:34.35Gnarfozhaving to farm even more mp/5 gear just to be competitive is kind of... a step backwards
17:34.35FISKER_Qthat won't help much
17:34.53FISKER_Qand sinc our class is so focussed @ critheal/mp5 we don't gain shit from stuff like innervate
17:35.05_icetraingetting 30% of your heals for free is kinda OP to :)
17:35.09knarf^_^Is it possible to get the raidID your locked too ?
17:35.10Gnarfozaaanyway, we could still cling to the hope of that one change being wrong  ^^
17:35.28Gnarfozthey could just fix the damn rank 4 and 5 stuff
17:35.32Gnarfoz(holy shock)
17:35.35knarf^_^FISKER_Q don't ever roll a priest ^^
17:35.46FISKER_Qyes use /raidinfo
17:35.50Gnarfozwhat class to roll, anyway? =[
17:35.50FISKER_Qor the menu under social
17:35.53FISKER_Qwarlock
17:35.56FISKER_QNot you guys
17:35.56FISKER_Qbut me
17:35.58GnarfozI've got one of those
17:36.02FISKER_QI know blizzard is following me
17:36.02Gnarfozmy first main :\
17:36.05Tornhoofit's unlikely the notes are true
17:36.07FISKER_QI know they wanna nerf anything i touch
17:36.10knarf^_^FISKER_Q I was thinking using lua :)
17:36.15FISKER_QHe was right about the darkmoon cards Tornhoof
17:36.26Gnarfozwhoever he is
17:36.26Gnarfoz:D
17:36.31chutwigi dunno i thought being a shadow priest was fun
17:36.34Loki|muhmp5 = manapoints every 5 seconds?
17:36.46chutwigyeah
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17:36.48Tornhoofheh fisk, look at Hunter's Mark now becomes stronger each time the target is struck by a ranged attack
17:36.50chutwigit ticks every 2 seconds, though
17:36.50Tornhoofsure
17:36.51Gnarfozyes, and also a nice heckler & koch submachine gun
17:36.56hyperChipmunkah, the profession post was edited to put the goggles back in
17:36.58FISKER_QAnyways _icetrain to be honest i still think that getting free heals is essential for the paladin, we don't invest that much into mp5 and certainly not spirit at all
17:37.09chutwigpaladins should be investing into mp5
17:37.25chutwigcrit, mp5, healing, in whatever order suits you
17:37.26Tornhoofnah
17:37.32chutwigyes?
17:37.39FISKER_QI'd say without illumination it's doubtful that i would've ever been able to do an instance run
17:37.39Tornhoofi don't think they'll nerf that pala illumination talent
17:37.49CIA-1103helium * r32471 10Lute/ (Lute.lua Lute.toc):
17:37.49CIA-11Lute -
17:37.49CIA-11Make the Loot frame always on top
17:37.49Tornhoofi highly doubt that
17:38.08harldephinto go shopping when i'm hungry was a rather bad idea
17:38.15chutwigthey'll probably nerf divine illumination so that it only returns half mana on crit
17:38.23FISKER_QIf they really wanna nerf paladins in a helpful way then nerf the way we get mana with shadow priests
17:38.24Tornhoofthey most likely won't
17:38.25chutwigbecause previously if you crit you would spend half the mana but get full mana back
17:38.26Tornhoofwithout that
17:38.47FISKER_Qi think that shadow priest mana regen is pretty overpowered, but nerfing our illumination just destroys any group without a shadow priest
17:39.20GnarfozJosh_Borke: nice commint notes on r32187 ;D
17:39.22Tornhoofhow does the pala only spend half mana?
17:39.28chutwigi just said
17:39.31chutwigdivine illumination
17:40.02FISKER_Qah yeah that's probably why
17:40.02Gnarfoz41 holy talent
17:40.03Tornhoofah yes
17:40.03deltronaww alchohol stam buffs don't stack with food anymore :(
17:40.10FISKER_Qto be honest i don't even think the talent is worth shit
17:40.19chutwigit's okay
17:40.25chutwigit's like another mana pot every 3 minutes
17:40.26FISKER_QIt's really rare that i have any use to dish out 4k heals for 15 seconds outright
17:40.35Tornhoofbut that's mostly a bugfix then chutwig
17:40.51FISKER_QA bugfix with a huge nerf then
17:40.57chutwigso what instances are you running these days, fisker
17:41.12FISKER_Qkarazhan and gruul sofar
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17:41.40chutwigif you can't think of any times where you don't need to apply concentrated healing then i'm going to venture you're not really pulling your weight
17:42.33FISKER_QI'm doing healing but not for 15 seconds at a time, perhaps at maiden but else i haven't seen an encounter other than on some trash where i have to heal a lot
17:43.06chutwigi found it useful to use on long fights, even ones that weren't mana intensive
17:43.18chutwigjust to ensure i would have more mana available later on
17:43.33FISKER_Qit'll always be useful, i just don't think it's that crucial to the whole thing
17:43.35Antiarc|WorkPriests generally have to chain-chug mana pots.
17:43.47Tornhoofuhm?
17:43.48Tornhoofnah
17:43.54Tornhoofshamans have to chainchug mana pots
17:44.04Tornhoofno way they can keep up with priest,pala or druid
17:44.10FISKER_QI always get the feeling i'm not getting full value for my divine illumination, it's like every time i use it the group couldn't be more stable :P
17:44.11Tornhoofno proper reg capabilities
17:44.14deltronshaman are the worst mana consumers ever
17:44.17chutwigyeah
17:44.17xyuwhat's the "holy shock 4,5" business you're talking about?
17:44.23chutwigshaman healing consists of this
17:44.27FISKER_QCast holy light rank 11 on yourself
17:44.28chutwigyou bind every key on the keyboard to chain heal
17:44.38FISKER_QCast divine favor and holy shock yourself with rank 5
17:44.38Gnarfozckknight: any chance of making 'this unit is friendly' (for hostility coloring) the same shade of green as 'full hp' (for health-based shading), so a playerframe with health-based shading at 100% looks good next to a targetframe that has a friendly target?
17:44.42chutwigand then mash your hamham fists on the keyboard
17:44.43FISKER_Qthen it will regain the cost of holy light rank 11
17:44.48deltronlol
17:44.58deltronif you are a lame resto shaman maybe :P
17:45.02hyperChipmunkGnarfoz: colors are editable
17:45.04FISKER_QHoly shock 4 returns like half it's mana cost regardless so that's just bugged
17:45.11Antiarc|Workhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=5D8CBDA758EF88C9469736EB34E52892?topicId=94849591&postId=947510958&sid=1#0
17:45.21chutwignobody really bothered to discover it because nobody is dumb enough to use HS as a heal
17:45.28GnarfozhyperChipmunk: I guess, I just don't know where, and I probably should have added 'by default' to that :)
17:45.33chutwigif they're low enough that you would want an instant heal on them holy shock isn't going to do shit
17:45.37FISKER_Q^^
17:45.38hyperChipmunkglobal config -> colors
17:45.43FISKER_QI did that mistake one
17:45.50Antiarc|WorkWell, that seals it. I'm dropping Eng.
17:45.52xyuso when do you use it?
17:45.56FISKER_Qtook it away from my hotbar, never did it since
17:45.57hyperChipmunkAntiarc|Work: hey look, that's me on post #15
17:45.58chutwigfor healing?  never
17:46.17chutwigyou might as well burn LoH and get more for your money
17:46.22FISKER_QI was like "OMG tank at low hp, i must use holy shock", *out of range* runs closer, HOLY SHOCK, tank dies.
17:46.24FISKER_QQQ
17:46.32xyuhah
17:46.34chutwig20-yard weak ass heal
17:46.57FISKER_QFelt like a retard given that i have 2 second cast holy light
17:46.57Antiarc|Work"Invulnerability" potions now stop the first 120 damage per hit for 8 seconds, rather than making the imbiber physically immune.
17:46.58xyuFISKER_Q: when do you usually burn illum?
17:46.59Antiarc|WorkWeak sauce.
17:47.07NightHawkTheSanewow. lots of alchy changes.
17:47.23chutwigillumination is the passive one
17:47.26chutwigyou mean DF?  or DI?
17:47.31FISKER_QDivine Illumination usually when either the tank is low and the party is preoccupied
17:47.42FISKER_Qor when i know "this boss enrages better have plenty of healing"
17:47.44Antiarc|Work"Elemental Absorption" potions now have a 2 minute duration rather than the 60 min duration they used to have.
17:47.48Antiarc|WorkWeak freaking sauce.
17:48.17Gnarfozoh, I read "cooldown" there
17:48.19Gnarfozwhich made no sense
17:48.31Gnarfoznow it's making sense and I concur, weak sauce >_>
17:48.32NightHawkTheSaneof course, most of the changes are just classifying old consumables as elixirs
17:48.35sbuyay, new darkmoon faire cards :/
17:48.47deltronlol
17:48.55deltronI still use my darkmoon faire cards
17:49.01deltronI need to replace them though
17:49.36sbunever completed 1 set
17:49.44sbuportal ace still missing :o
17:49.54FISKER_QGot twisting nether one, maelstroem and the healing one
17:49.55FISKER_Qor had
17:50.13deltronI want the replacement for maelstrom, romeo's poison vial
17:50.24NightHawkTheSane"gathering skills no longer fail when you have reached the maximum skill possible" yaay.
17:50.25FISKER_Qany stats on the new darkmoon cards?
17:50.29deltronno
17:51.11NightHawkTheSanelol "Monsters will now attack players who are mining mineral nodes near to them, even if they didn't notice them previously." = anti botting.
17:52.04xyuoh btw
17:52.06xyu-Epic Flight Form quest opened up similar in nature to Paladin/Warlock epic mount quests. Also adds a new boss to Sethikk Halls
17:52.07xyuhas a typo
17:52.10xyuso could be fake?
17:52.13xyusethikk?
17:52.22deltronvery possible
17:52.30deltronmany typos in that
17:52.39xyuis it translated?
17:52.44Gnarfozparaphrased
17:52.47Healthhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94849591&sid=1
17:52.56Antiarc|Workxyu: It looks very much like a paraphrased leak, but the fact that they got the darkmoon cards right is convincing.
17:53.06FISKER_Q^^
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17:55.41sbuyay - finally got whitemend pants :)
17:56.05sbuhmmm
17:56.18sbuNightHawkTheSane: patchnotes online? or just those board postings?
17:56.30Gnarfozmultiple board postings
17:56.34NightHawkTheSanesbu: click the link Health posted
17:56.43Gnarfozand a kind-of convincing pastey'ed class changes summary
17:56.43sbuah
17:57.15KirkburnBlizzCon 2007!
17:57.21Kirkburnhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94849650&sid=1
17:57.37Gnarfozyou stole that link
17:57.38Gnarfoz:p
17:57.42KirkburnI deed, I deed
17:57.56KirkburnI have no qualms about cross-posting :P
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17:59.41FISKER_Qhaha
17:59.45FISKER_Qi see where this is going
17:59.55FISKER_QIn south park where persians are taking over a bar :P
17:59.59CIA-1103helium * r32472 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-zhTW.lua:
17:59.59CIA-11FuBar_BagFu:
17:59.59CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
18:00.39evlhttp://derisive.net/pics/clwarcraft.jpg
18:00.41evlI lol'ed
18:01.38hyperChipmunkold news
18:01.43hyperChipmunksomeone took her offer
18:02.27NightHawkTheSane... I feel dirtier that I play on that server.
18:04.38Silviu-http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot04120720364
18:04.57Silviu-Strange place under karazaan
18:04.57Silviu-:/
18:04.59Silviu-:P
18:05.40KirkburnCross postage again ... news summary - http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#WoW_and_Blizzcon_news.21
18:05.51sbuuhm
18:05.55sbuclass change pastey fake? :O
18:05.57Silviu-http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041207203453di9.jpg
18:06.09Gnarfozthat does n't even exist anymore, does it?
18:06.18Gnarfoz*still waiting for imagecrap to load -.-*
18:06.26Kirkburnsbu, I don't think it's fake
18:06.36sbuthen: HAHA PALLYS :p
18:06.46KirkburnSome of the info has been announced officially after it was pasted
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18:07.40GnarfozSilviu-: first link: not working
18:08.07Gnarfozsecond link: showing a place I have no clue how to get to since they changed deadwind pass's layout
18:08.18Silviu-U can
18:08.24Silviu-Get a warlock/priest
18:08.45Silviu-go where is the cemetery is behind karazaan
18:08.49Silviu-is a crypt
18:08.53Silviu-Go near door make duel
18:08.55Silviu-And fear :)
18:08.56Silviu-http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041207203619qq3.jpg
18:09.17Silviu-Don`t know i think it will be an instance or .. don`t know
18:09.23Silviu-Verry huge underground place
18:09.42GnarfozI know the place
18:09.45Gnarfozit's been there for... ages
18:10.04Silviu-Not that part with mobs
18:10.07Gnarfozbut recently there's been a massive gate (i.e. not a doodad)
18:10.09Silviu-Where u have quest for karazaan
18:10.34hyperChipmunkyea, there's an entrance to a functional part of it in duskwood
18:10.37Silviu-Or at least i did not know of that place till now
18:10.48GnarfozI know of the upside-down sinner's thing
18:10.51Gnarfozit's old
18:10.58Gnarfozbut you couldn't enter it from duskwood oO
18:10.59Silviu-Looks nice :)
18:11.13Silviu-no, i did from behind Karazaan where cemetery is
18:11.17Silviu-Is a crypt
18:11.34Gnarfozinside the actual instance zone?
18:11.39Silviu-No
18:11.41Silviu-Sec
18:11.42Gnarfozhm
18:11.47xyuWhere is the sha'tar quartermaster heh
18:11.49hyperChipmunkyea, there's the duskwood one that's basically the same, but populated, and you can see the kharazan one from there, iirc, but there's a gate dividing them
18:12.00Gnarfoznoooow I'm confused :D
18:12.02hyperChipmunkxyu: right in the middle of shattrath
18:12.05hyperChipmunkit's a draenei
18:12.06GnarfozI gotta go check it out next time I'm bored
18:12.16Gnarfoz(AGAIN(
18:12.30sbuuh,m
18:12.35FISKER_Qhttp://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/lesbos.wmv
18:12.42sbui hope its fake
18:13.19GnarfozFISKER_Q: excerpt from current SP?
18:13.26FISKER_Qyeah
18:13.27hyperChipmunkoh this is new
18:13.34Gnarfozheh, I'm just watching that part of the ep
18:13.46hyperChipmunka spam message to "rent" my character, and they'll pay ME
18:13.59Silviu-Damn again imageshack works like hell
18:14.00Silviu-:)
18:14.04Matrix110they want TBC accounts
18:14.22hyperChipmunkgee, i can't imagine how that might go wrong
18:14.30Silviu-http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041207211405gm6.jpg
18:14.40Silviu-There down in left :)
18:16.04Gnarfozhm yeah I know the crypt entrance
18:16.21hyperChipmunkjust go in via duskwood; there's much more there, and it's way-cooler
18:16.36Gnarfozbut hasn't it got a really massive portcullis (not a doodad, massive, part of the structure)
18:16.50GnarfozhyperChipmunk: where's that in duskwood? :)
18:17.30hyperChipmunki don't remember specifically; it's been a year at least
18:17.46hyperChipmunkcheck the GY areas
18:18.45Gnarfozhrm
18:18.50Gnarfoz*adds to list(
18:18.55Gnarfozdamn I'm bad at typing today
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18:23.20xyuwarrior nerf!  
18:23.21xyu-Commanding Shout now increases your max health but your health stays a constant percentage
18:23.24xyuhah
18:23.30xyuNo longer can the exploit that shit
18:23.48xyuif true of coures.
18:23.50xyucourse*
18:24.14Silviu-Btw what patch should be this ?
18:24.18Silviu-2.1.0 ?
18:24.26KodyWell, there's no doubt in my mind that'll be changed some time soon if those notes aren't true
18:24.28Silviu-Cause for warlock is missing some stuff then :)
18:24.37Silviu-Like despawning pet
18:24.37Silviu-;)
18:24.51xyuall i know is i saw my arena team mate warrior
18:24.55xyujust commanding shout off a priest dot
18:25.02xyucuz he can spam it to stay alive
18:25.03KodyYeah
18:25.05xyuwas pimp :D
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18:25.15KodyIf you have less than what commanding shout buffs in hp then it heals you right now
18:25.20KodyIt's pretty silly
18:25.40KodyAnd definitely seems like a bug since it only occurs in that situation
18:26.36xyuFISKER_Q:  help me choose between 2 bad healing necks.  (all i have atm)  !
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18:27.01FISKER_Qalright!
18:27.38DocFU-PinnacleYes
18:27.38CIA-1103darkimakuni * r32473 10PitBull/ (. Class/Class.lua Layouts/ABF.lua PitBull.lua):
18:27.38CIA-11PitBull
18:27.38CIA-11- Updated ABF layout for the :Update*(frame) change
18:27.38CIA-11- Fixed typo in Class module defaults
18:27.38CIA-11- Fixed nil error when toggling show/hide of raid/party frames
18:28.04xyuChoker of fluid thought, 15sta, 17int, 17spi, 35 heal or warp engineer's prismatic blahblah:  15sta, 17int 4/5 mp , 31 heal
18:28.21DocFU-PinnacleAny support yet for PitBull or ag UF for druidbar or is there an ace one now?
18:28.23sbu2.
18:28.29sbuoh wait hm
18:28.52xyuboth are not that great, but need to fill my slot until i find something else
18:28.54sbupriest?
18:28.57xyupally
18:30.07Lysitheapala Id go mp5
18:30.39FISKER_Qyeah me too
18:31.41xyuoki thx, that's what i've been using.
18:33.09DocFU-PinnacleAnyone know if there's a working Ace DruidBar out yet?
18:35.28xyuthis new arena master I can't move.
18:35.33xyui dont know how to unlock it o_O
18:36.35xyualt drag , woot.
18:37.33KirkburnBtw, updated my news links - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=89378961&sid=1
18:37.36KirkburnDarn, wrong link
18:37.42KirkburnAhem, http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Warcraft_pump#WoW_and_Blizzcon_news.21
18:39.45deltronoh man
18:39.48deltroni'm so going
18:40.05GnarfozI'm so not... wrong continent, again
18:40.22deltronoh, i should check that...
18:40.39deltronright continent for me :D
18:45.55KirkburnWeird - "Profession recipes that had 24 hour or longer cooldowns, have had their cooldowns reduced by 1 hour."
18:46.30deltronlol
18:46.36ckknighthey all
18:46.41NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn: I assume that was done so you havea  little give when chain using those CDs
18:46.48Silviu-hello ckknight
18:47.11DocFU-PinnacleMan EJ Boards are crashing like a mofo
18:47.35Gnarfozand I can't even see the post that caused it
18:47.47NightHawkTheSaneTigole posted a handful of times. that'll do it really
18:47.57deltronis it really Tigole?
18:47.59Gnarfozyeah, can't find those
18:48.00Gnarfoz;>
18:48.04Antiarc|WorkYes
18:48.10DocFU-PinnacleMessed up that's where they post the changes
18:48.11Antiarc|WorkHe's known to post there on occassion. It's not unprecedented.
18:48.27Antiarc|WorkEJ is generally regarded to be a "step above" in terms of raiding discussion.
18:48.28deltronI wonder if Tigole has stairs
18:48.38NightHawkTheSaneHe wasnt really posting changes, but responding to assumptions/discussion in the thread
18:48.38DocFU-PinnacleEJ is read more than WoW boards for serious raiders
18:48.45deltronyeah EJ has the best raiding discussion by far
18:48.52Antiarc|WorkTigole's a raider at heart, so it doesn't surprise me that he'd post stuff there that is of critical interest to raiders.
18:50.24NeoTronso this change
18:50.30NeoTron["Flask of Petrification" can no longer be turned off during its duration, but it now will clear all threat from all monsters for the duration of the effect. Though monsters may reacquire you after the effect ends. ]
18:50.38NeoTrondoesn't that pretty much make that flask entirely useless?
18:50.46NeoTronexcept perhaps for Huhuran
18:50.46deltronhmm
18:50.49DocFU-PinnacleNo
18:50.59DocFU-Pinnacle2 min agro loss?
18:50.59NightHawkTheSaneI suppose it could be used as a DI of sorts?
18:51.04DocFU-PinnacleYeah
18:51.06NeoTronif you can't take it off you're out of the fight for a long time. nothing will hit on you so all you do is direct threat at someone else
18:51.07DocFU-PinnacleExactly
18:51.16NeoTrondoes it put you out of combat ?
18:51.22DocFU-PinnacleNo
18:51.23FISKER_Qperhaps it'll be some kind of regen thingy?
18:51.36DocFU-Pinnaclemost combat raid wise is zone wide
18:51.51NeoTron60 seconds of regen. could work
18:51.58DocFU-PinnacleI'm thinking the new invuln pot
18:52.07NeoTronbut not at the cost of 30 stonescale oil, 10 silversage and a black lotus..
18:52.08FISKER_QKinda like a sleepless potion but in a flask form instead
18:52.19DocFU-PinnacleThey will be reducing flask mats
18:52.22DocFU-Pinnacleand effects
18:52.47NeoTronwow they really nerfed invulnerability potions
18:53.07Matrix110not only nerfed
18:53.10Matrix110they made em worthless:P
18:53.11NeoTronand absorbtion potions
18:53.17NeoTron2 minute duration is crap
18:53.46Matrix110the only situation you would use them is as a mage heavy aoeing
18:53.51DocFU-PinnacleYeah that's true
18:53.56Matrix110in all other situations a HP pot is better
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18:54.18NeoTronso they nerfed flasks and costs of flasks
18:54.27NeoTronprobably more like an elixir through death
18:55.14NightHawkTheSanethey'll probably still be better than an elixir
18:55.26NightHawkTheSanebut not by the leaps and bounds they were before
18:56.11Antiarc|WorkI used invul pots to dismount 600 feet in the air :(
18:57.05DocFU-Pinnacle--Flask powers have been GREATLY reduced.
18:57.05DocFU-Pinnacle--Reagent costs for flasks have been ****GREATLY**** reduced.
18:57.05DocFU-Pinnacle--Flasks take up both your offenseive AND defensive elixir slots. 1 Flask or 2 elixirs -- you choose.
18:57.05DocFU-Pinnacle--Raid DPS has gone up (Glancing Blow and Class Changes)
18:57.05DocFU-Pinnacle--Encounters where DPS was not a "flasking factor" (i.e. tuned around the HP flasks, elixir of mastery, defense etc). will be retuned.
19:00.56hyperChipmunkmore spam plz
19:01.00NeoTronwtf
19:01.12NeoTronso now when farming motes we'll have to deal with gettinf crappy essences too?
19:01.22NeoTron"Outland creatures that dropped motes will now have a chance of dropping essences as well. "
19:01.34NeoTronI hope it's an "AND" not "OR"
19:01.40evlAnyway to adjust the fontsize of an existing fontstring without using SetFont?
19:01.41DocFU-PinnacleYeah
19:01.44NeoTronI'd hate to get essences instead of motes
19:01.46NeoTronthat would be dumb
19:01.52NeoTronnot like it's easy to get essences to begin with
19:01.56DocFU-PinnacleThat's kind of unecessary
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19:02.18NightHawkTheSaneare essencse actually still used for anything?
19:02.24NeoTronno
19:02.27NeoTronnothing new
19:02.35NeoTronincreasing drop chances in the old world - good
19:02.40DocFU-PinnacleWait not planar essences?
19:02.41NeoTronADDING them to new world drops good
19:02.46NeoTronreplacing motes => retarded
19:02.52NeoTronelemental essences
19:02.55Matrix110they arent replacing motes
19:02.57NeoTronessence of water etc
19:02.57DocFU-PinnacleLike essence of air?
19:03.01DocFU-PinnacleMan
19:03.02NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: well I think the "as well" is "in addition to", so not replcing
19:03.05DocFU-PinnacleThat's pointless
19:03.10NeoTronI hope so
19:03.17NeoTronso wait
19:03.26NeoTron"Then they told us we could only have those two OR a flask. "
19:03.35NeoTronyou can't use a flask AND elixirs anymore? where was that posted?
19:03.36Matrix110its just like lvl 60 fire eles dropped Ele Fire, Hear of Fire, Essence of Fire they drop now: Essence of Fire, Mote of FIre
19:03.51Matrix110in the official forums Neotron
19:03.53NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: yeah, flask takes up both elixir slots, and its in a blue thread
19:04.05DocFU-PinnacleTigole on EJ too
19:04.10DocFU-Pinnacleif you can get through
19:04.11NightHawkTheSaneyeah
19:04.46deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94849717&sid=1
19:05.04NeoTronwell that might work to my benefit if flasks are indeed cheape rneough to warrant it
19:05.10NeoTronthey better damn nerf the encounters though
19:05.19NightHawkTheSanethey are retuning encounters
19:05.22NeoTronpeople didn't stack elixirs and flasks for fun but because they needed to
19:05.32NightHawkTheSanenot to mention flasks are being reduced in cost/power
19:05.52NeoTron"Skeletal Ushers in KZ can be shackled"
19:05.52NeoTronwow
19:05.58NeoTronway to make that super easy. heh
19:05.58NightHawkTheSaneo_0 woah
19:06.07DocFU-PinnacleThat owns
19:06.14deltronthis is an insane news day it seems
19:06.16DocFU-PinnacleIce Tomb ftw
19:06.21DocFU-Pinnacleyeah
19:06.26NightHawkTheSaneI actually dont like that change
19:06.31NightHawkTheSaneThose ushers were -awesome-
19:06.40DocFU-Pinnacleyeah, took some skill
19:06.50DocFU-Pinnaclebut Khaz is becoming trivail anyway
19:06.50NightHawkTheSaneYeah, it wasnt hard, just required you to not suck
19:07.10NightHawkTheSaneDocFU-Pinnacle: no, its not. its only trivial to the top tier now. THat's like .5% of the wow population :P
19:07.47deltron.5% is a high estimate I bet
19:07.51DocFU-PinnacleOk, I'll retract that then
19:07.54NightHawkTheSanedeltron: yeah, probably.
19:08.31NightHawkTheSaneDocFU-Pinnacle: I agree, KZ isn't a hard raid zone. But it's very far from "trivial" for the -majority- of even the raiding population. You can't judge trends based on things like the EJ forums :P
19:08.55DocFU-PinnacleI'm judging them on my experience and where we're at
19:09.04deltronmy guild is currently stuck on aran
19:09.09DocFU-PinnacleSorry to generalize
19:09.39DocFU-PinnacleFlame Wreath? Or DPS?
19:10.14deltronflame wreath
19:10.14deltronevery single time
19:10.22NeoTron-Heroic instances will now always drop epic loot off the end boss and all heroic bosses have a chance for epic gems
19:10.25NeoTronabout time
19:10.31chutwigif it's the same person start replacing them
19:10.44NeoTrondeltron: that's just dumb
19:10.44NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: nice change but wtb new loot tables for ALL bosses, guaranteed.
19:10.50NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: no kidding
19:11.04NeoTronand apparently rhey aren't buffing tier 4 stuff, just tier 5 and above :(
19:11.07kenlyricit's dumb that flame wreath procs on people who don't have the debuff.
19:11.17NeoTronso no better loot from karazhan, gruul or magheridon
19:11.19NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: I think thats the point, though
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19:11.26deltronyeah, I'm tired of aran
19:11.28chutwigthe debuff is just for whoever it forms around
19:11.28NeoTronyeah that is the point
19:11.32kenlyricyeah, I know.. I guess I didn't mean dumb.. just.. more annoying :)
19:11.38NeoTronthe point is that it procs if you walk into the circle...
19:11.42chutwigjust stand still for 20 seconds
19:11.44chutwigit's not that hard
19:11.45NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: if your raid has problems standing still... well. ;)
19:11.51Antiarc|WorkIt's like Cave In. It's a targeted debuff, not a debuff on a person.
19:11.54chutwigtell them to take their hamfists off WASD
19:11.54deltronwe usually have 2 enh shaman, so it shouldn't be an issue
19:12.09chutwigAntiarc|Work: flame wreath does place a specific debuff on the people surrounded by it
19:12.15kenlyricNightHawkTheSane: well, sometimes when blizzard is falling on you and aran runs in and silences you, there's strong temptation! :)
19:12.21Antiarc|Workchutwig: So does Cave In.
19:12.29kenlyricwe don't really die to flame wreath anymore.
19:12.32Antiarc|WorkBut if you move out of Cave In, then lose the debuff.
19:12.40Antiarc|WorkSame as Flame Wreath, but losing it prematurely triggers it.
19:13.30DocFU-Pinnaclehttp://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/ Live it. Love it.
19:13.38kenlyricI died during our successful kill, but a flame wreath circle poped up near me while i was SoR. So I waaited.
19:13.42NeoTronI just don't see them mentioning that they plan to _re_tune encounters
19:13.46kenlyricAnd he murdered me with a fireball when I did come up.
19:13.54NeoTronrather than take it into account while making new encounters
19:14.44DocFU-PinnacleAlot of the current encounters will be buggy as hell for the first few weeks if they retune
19:14.44NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: from tigole in the EJ thread: "--Encounters where DPS was not a "flasking factor" (i.e. tuned around the HP flasks, elixir of mastery, defense etc). will be retuned."
19:14.49NeoTronnm I saw it here
19:14.54NeoTron"The retuning of dungeons as well as items are all coinciding with these changes."
19:15.04NightHawkTheSane:)
19:15.18Pucmellol, tuning ... live tuning ftw
19:15.21NeoTronbut then she says
19:15.25NeoTron(In regard to new content and dungeons.)
19:15.39DocFU-PinnaclePucmel: Lol, yessirrr
19:15.40NeoTronso that actually reinforces my comment that it's just for new content (i.e black temple)..
19:15.55chutwigin regard to getting fucked on mag for months until they finally grudgingly agree to retune it and SSC
19:16.16DocFU-PinnacleSSC is a nightmare
19:16.21chutwighydross is already a fight that's on the edge
19:16.31chutwigand that's right now when you can fully flask and elixir out
19:16.33DocFU-PinnacleYeah, he's a pain
19:16.42chutwigit's going to be a complete trainwreck now
19:16.51DocFU-PinnacleThey'd have to retune
19:17.03DocFU-PinnacleYou need so much stuf for your NR tank now
19:17.13chutwigwe have all been surprised before by what we thought blizzard would HAVE to do and they nonetheless failed to do
19:17.31DocFU-PinnacleTrue
19:17.31chutwighow many weeks of bitching did it take before they finally retuned c'thun to be killable
19:17.38DocFU-PinnacleOh man
19:17.47DocFU-PinnacleAnd Vasjh too
19:17.49pastamancer`/window 22
19:17.52pastamancerbah
19:18.34chutwigthey just don't actually test anything
19:20.15DocFU-PinnacleThey don't test anything under real variables
19:20.24DocFU-Pinnaclei.e. Lag
19:20.54Antiarc|WorkWell
19:21.01Antiarc|WorkEveryone that plays WoW plays it with a 3ms ping
19:21.06Antiarc|WorkAnd all the consumables they need
19:21.09Antiarc|WorkRight?
19:21.18DocFU-PinnacleOf course
19:21.21nevcairielSure, dont you?
19:21.29NightHawkTheSaneObviously, i assumed that was a given
19:21.34DocFU-PinnacleWe all don't have jobs and can farm consumables 24/7
19:21.46nevcairielthen you shouldnt complain :D
19:21.47NightHawkTheSaneI'm farming consumables right. now.
19:21.50nevcairiellook at elixir changes
19:21.57nevcairiellots of farming time saved.
19:22.03DocFU-PinnacleYes
19:22.05NightHawkTheSane(actually, i really am. /cry hep me.)
19:22.08pastamancerI farm lag 24/7!
19:22.17NeoTronelixir / flask changes are good
19:22.26NeoTronIF they retune all encounters to the new baseline level
19:22.27DocFU-PinnacleNo doubt
19:22.33DocFU-PinnacleThey have to
19:22.39NeoTronif they don't retune it's a clusterfuck
19:22.45NeoTronit's cheaper byt you can't kill anything :P
19:22.49DocFU-Pinnaclethey designed before with the idea "this is what's available"
19:23.04NeoTroneven so, C'Thun shows they often are wrong
19:23.11DocFU-PinnacleYeah
19:23.13NeoTronC'Thun was mathematically impossible to kill
19:23.26nevcairielhe was?
19:23.29DocFU-PinnacleI never tried in his fist state
19:23.29NeoTronyeah
19:23.39NeoTronyou needed too much DPS to be able to do it with the current level of gear in the game
19:23.42NightHawkTheSaneI thought someone killed him before the hotfix?
19:23.42nevcairielwhen we got there, he was patched
19:23.47DocFU-PinnacleI remmeber reading the RnD forums about the problems though
19:23.49NeoTronthere was huge posts on it and that's when blizzard changed it
19:23.58DocFU-Pinnacleand after the "fix" how many guilds downed him
19:24.01gnorlishthe guild immortality bashed their heads against the original cthun for way too long
19:24.03NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: no, no one did. once he was fixed he died right away
19:24.05gnorlishit's what started their decline
19:24.34NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: okay, i dont really rmemeber, so you're probably right.
19:24.43NeoTronMAYBE with perfect gear dna execution and no latency
19:24.50NeoTronit might have been possible
19:25.02NeoTronI'm sure blizzards do tests entirely without latency on perfect game boxes
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19:25.11deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=88449237&sid=1 <-- hah this is awesome
19:25.29DocFU-PinnacleYeah
19:25.34DocFU-Pinnaclepretty funny
19:25.34NeoTrondeltron: I learned someyhing from that thread
19:25.47NeoTrondeltron: that you can be immune to disarm and not lose threat to the ethereal thieves
19:25.51NeoTron:)
19:26.01NeoTronmade them like 10 times less painful
19:26.04DocFU-PinnacleDon't move when flame wreath is cast?
19:26.07NeoTron(faster to kill, and safe to kill()
19:26.15NeoTronDocFU-Pinnacle: that.. I knew
19:26.23NeoTronfirst nightbane/netherspite kill
19:26.30DocFU-Pinnacledeltron's guild doens't
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19:26.45NeoTronthis week
19:26.50NeoTronclear in 7h20m
19:26.51NeoTronthat's our best
19:27.20chutwigyeah our MT got a weapon chain on his tanking gloves
19:27.23chutwigmakes those a whole lot easier
19:27.35chutwigthough i kind of enjoyed watching the mage die repeatedly
19:27.38gnorlishour tanks just whip out their quel'serrars
19:27.41NeoTrona druid can just take his weapon off
19:27.45gnorlishall chained of course
19:27.59Chompersi'll be on nightbane soon
19:28.03Chomperscurse shade of aran
19:28.07NeoTronnightbane was easy
19:28.10Chomperswhy is he so difficult
19:28.12NeoTroneasier than aran or prince to learn
19:28.19NightHawkTheSaneweapon chains are for newbs. Deathbone gaunts ftw! :D
19:28.25NeoTrononly hard part is the skellies
19:28.32NightHawkTheSaneer, wait, is it deathbone? eh, whichever one drops from strat.
19:28.46NeoTronit took us 4 tries to get nightbane
19:28.46NightHawkTheSanewait, deathgrip.
19:28.53chutwigTODESGRIFF
19:29.12NeoTronone attempt I was feared between a wall and the doorframe - you can't get out of that hole
19:29.22NeoTronand then he put his ground-aoe thing below me to roast me in my little oven
19:31.33deltronI've been feared in many strange places, once I was feared inside a tree in ZG
19:31.43chutwigi hate getting the crone for opera
19:31.46chutwigbecause i keep roar chain feared
19:31.48Antiarc|WorkThe worst ever is getting feared through the floor anywhere.
19:31.55chutwigbut he constantly runs inside the doors on either side
19:32.02Antiarc|WorkI got feared through the ground in Black Morass once.
19:32.04chutwigand there are so many geometry errors in BC right now
19:32.49Arrowmasteri got feared through a wall in heroic shadow labs
19:33.00yacoobcartoon-style fear? :D
19:33.07Arrowmasteralthough there was nothing on the other side of the wall so i fell to my death
19:33.34deltronyeah I got feared through the ground in scholo once
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19:33.36yacoobI saw whole raid glued to the railing in Kharazan. Priceless :D
19:34.11Arrowmasterthe one after the chess event?
19:34.38yacoobnot sure, never been there, just watched my gf play
19:36.25Chompersthe opera event railing perhaps?
19:36.36Arrowmasterdont think you can get stuck on that
19:37.03Arrowmasteri have jumped over it before though while the npc was starting the event
19:37.08Arrowmasterthat was humorious
19:39.54CIA-1103ckknight * r32474 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fixed configMode for party and raid. - essentially tricks the system by injecting more unit ids than what exist.
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19:42.19kenlyricI have a screenshot relevant to this conversation http://ctscreens.net/5464
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19:44.14AmadeoPitBull-r32474\PitBull.lua:2126: Bad argument #2 to `ClearUnitFrame'. Expected frame, got nil
19:44.15Amadeo:(
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19:45.54ckknightAmadeo: fixed
19:46.09NeoTronchutwig: yes roar is annoying
19:46.20Amadeo:D
19:46.28Antiarc|WorkBecause 2.1.0 is not yet on the PTR's (we're hoping by tomorrow or early next week), we're going to hotfix the base creature respawn in Serpentshrine and TK Raid to be 2 hours. We're also going to fix the bug that's causing the creatures to respawn after the boss for the corresponding section has been killed.
19:46.35Antiarc|WorkSo 2.1.0 PTRs soon! :D
19:46.39chutwigNeoTron: lol fear breaks and he runs across the room way too fast for you to fear again
19:46.43chutwiglaugh on line
19:47.04NeoTronwe only had that encounter once
19:47.06FISKER_QWTF
19:47.11FISKER_Qfrom tigole too?
19:47.14chutwigwe get it pretty much every week
19:47.28NeoTronand i was tanking both roar and strawman
19:47.30NeoTronthat was.. fun
19:47.34chutwigwell, we had BBW last week, but that was the first time we got something other than the crone in a month
19:47.44chutwigi don't even remember the last time we had romulo
19:47.49nevcairielive never had the crone
19:47.53Antiarc|Workhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94849717&pageNo=1&sid=1#0
19:47.56nevcairielalways romeo and julia
19:47.58nevcairielor bbw
19:48.06NeoTronrj are so easy now
19:48.13nevcairielyea
19:48.17nevcairielromeo was nerfed so bad
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19:48.32NeoTronit's a good change though
19:48.34kenlyricwe had romulo first week, and couldn't do it.
19:48.38NeoTronthey are now pretty equal
19:48.39chutwigLots of the creatures are no longer immune to CC (The female naga in SSC can be poly'd, Skeletal Ushers in KZ can be shackled)
19:48.40chutwigoh thank god
19:48.45chutwigfuck the skeletal ushers
19:48.54AmadeoWhat the hell, I flipped on Sci-Fi and Stargate Atlantis is on...and two of them are talking about World of Warcraft, haha
19:48.54kenlyricchutwig, well, it does make skeletal ushers nothing special now.
19:49.01NeoTroneah
19:49.02kenlyricJust shackle if they take off after a dpser.
19:49.03NeoTronyeah
19:49.16NeoTronwell with one shackled there's never a problem
19:49.23NeoTronwho has issues with th single pull ushers?
19:49.26chutwigthey were russian roulette before, though
19:49.29chutwigthe two-pulls
19:49.30Silviu-ckk, conf party won`t add party frames only target / tot
19:49.32kenlyricwell, if you only had one tank you might.
19:49.38Silviu-And focus
19:49.41kenlyricgives you more options.
19:49.44NeoTronok sure
19:49.49NeoTronwho would only use one tank? :P
19:49.55chutwigcrazy person
19:50.00ckknightSilviu-: did you select party mode?
19:50.03NeoTronbest OT is not a prot tank for sure
19:50.05Antiarc|WorkWe triple-tank the ushers.
19:50.07Antiarc|WorkAnd even that is iffy.
19:50.09NeoTronbut you do need 2 tanks most of the time
19:50.13Antiarc|WorkI usually end up evasion tanking one.
19:50.17kenlyriclol, we're lucky when we have two tanks.
19:50.25chutwigwe usually take two and hope to have a third somebody who can tank a bit
19:50.27Silviu-Yes
19:50.31chutwigeven if it's just a paladin using RD
19:50.34NeoTronone key strategy to remember
19:50.36Silviu-ckknight yes
19:50.36NeoTrondon't group up
19:50.45NeoTrongoes so foten too
19:50.49kenlyricI like the hunter pet misdirection method.
19:50.53NeoTronif there's room don't stand near another ranged
19:50.55ckknightoh yea, Silviu-, I'll fix that
19:51.06Antiarc|WorkThe problem is that with the aggro wipe, the ushers hit so flippin' hard that they liquidate anything that isn't in plate immediately.
19:51.19NeoTronyeah but if you're spread out
19:51.25NeoTronat least they won't chain kill the raid
19:51.29Antiarc|WorkShackle -> doubletanking should make it a ton more managable.
19:51.43kenlyricespecially since a warrior can build threat on the shackle.
19:51.44NeoTronit'll make it really easy
19:51.49NeoTronwhich is fine, they were super hard before
19:52.01chutwigit's just lame the way it is now because you can blow through kara bosses no problem and still wipe to the friggin' ushers
19:52.03kenlyricmouseover sunder FTW!
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19:52.12chutwighas nothing to do with skill, it's just luck and having 3 tanks
19:53.01NeoTronchutwig: it's skill
19:53.05NeoTronchutwig: 2 tanks is enough
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19:53.24chutwigNeoTron: if you have 2 tanks and one gets ice tombed
19:53.35NeoTronchutwig: key points: 1) spread ranged dps/heal out to minimize losses, 2) WAIT TO DPS A LONG TIME, 3) Paladin heals alone initially
19:53.40kenlyricthat's why both tanks build up threat on both targets.
19:53.45NeoTronand 4) both tanks built thread on both targets
19:53.45CIA-1103rabbit * r32477 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua: BigWigs: Morogrim: deDE update by Radon.
19:53.47chutwigis this a trash pull or a boss encounter you're talking about here
19:53.51hyperChipmunkKraator to 72%, died with full hp and mana
19:53.56NeoTronit's a small degree of luck but mostly skill
19:54.19kenlyricdo not underestimate mouseover sunders :)
19:54.27NeoTronwe haven't wiped on ushers for weeks
19:54.47NeoTronbut if all ranged is in one spot, expect multiple deaths
19:55.00Diaosylvanaar
19:55.47deltronkenlyric: lol your tank put a mouseover sunder armor?
19:55.51Herioushers?
19:55.52HerioLOL
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19:55.59Heriojust skip em
19:56.03Herio=P
19:56.06NeoTronHerio: err?
19:56.13NeoTronhow? magic carpet?
19:56.16Heriohave a pally run in and pull em, away, bubble
19:56.25Heriothen you have the raid run past
19:56.25deltronwaste of bubble
19:56.33chutwigthat sounds pro
19:56.35Heriowe have NEVER done those guys lol
19:56.42NeoTronthat is.. time saving
19:56.44NeoTronat least
19:56.46hyperChipmunkmouseover sunder armor is good; i do the same with my pet's growl
19:57.01hyperChipmunkget agro w/o breaking CC
19:57.02deltronthat's a really awesome idea
19:57.17deltronhow does the mouseover work?
19:57.24NeoTronexcept if you wipe on opera
19:57.25deltronyou literally mouse over the mob?
19:57.27NeoTronthat'd suck :P
19:57.38hyperChipmunk/cast [target=mouseover] Growl
19:57.42Heriowe have plenty of wipe recover
19:57.45Herio2 soul stones
19:57.52Herioand DI
19:57.56deltronhmm
19:58.00hyperChipmunkbind it to a hotkey
19:58.02deltroni wonder how i can use that on my shaman
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19:59.10DiaoI have trouble with mouseover stuff :(
19:59.17kenlyricit's a simple macro.
19:59.21Silviu-ckknight u sure u commited the right file ? ( sorry if i bother u ) still no conf with party frames :p
19:59.25DiaoNot the macro itself
19:59.29DiaoIt's the fact that when I try to mouseover
19:59.30hyperChipmunkgood for all kinds of things
19:59.33deltronI have never bothered with any macro's
19:59.36Diaoand I'm fighting a mob that's standing on top of me
19:59.41Diaomy mouse pretty much stays on that mob
19:59.44Diaoeven if I move it around
19:59.52Diaothe tooltip keeps showing up as that mob, and if I click it's still that mob
19:59.57hyperChipmunki have wyvsting, pet attack, growl, misdirection all on mouseover macros
20:00.04kenlyricit's so nice because I don't have to worry about getting one shotted if my shackle breaks early and a new one gets resisted... because the mob is rarely running to me
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20:00.29deltroni should learn to macro one of these days
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20:01.39NeoTronkenlyric: interesting
20:01.44NeoTronso the pet is used as a priest saver
20:01.49NeoTronwithout touching the mob
20:01.56FISKER_Qanyone know where to read about the badges/primal nether change?
20:02.04NeoTronthere are changes?
20:02.05CIA-1103sylvanaar 07PratPlugin-1.0 * r32479 10Prat/PratPlugin-1.0/PratPlugin-1.0.lua: PratPlugin-1.0: sorta have the library working with dreamchat locally
20:02.06kenlyricNeoTron: no, the warrior does this. But a pet would work to.
20:02.15nevcairielits only one line in the profession thread
20:02.16NeoTronkenlyric: how does a warrior do it?
20:02.20NeoTronsunder armor doesn't break CC?
20:02.30FISKER_Qno here :o
20:02.32nevcairielhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=275607940&pageNo=1&sid=1#0
20:02.37kenlyricnot with a mouseover macro :)
20:02.42FISKER_Qnot*
20:02.44kenlyricNeoTron: we expect nerf to this any day :)
20:02.53FISKER_Qdoesn't appear to be the same thread though
20:02.53NeoTronO.M.G.
20:02.55NeoTronWow
20:02.59kenlyricsince clearly, sunder armor implies hitting the mob.
20:03.03NeoTronso going to get that to our warriors
20:03.15Matrix110well tomorrow or soon next week PTR come they just release bits of the notes everyone can see then anyway
20:03.16kenlyricclub your warriors for not finding out about that :)
20:03.16NeoTronTailoring: The Spellfire and Shadoweave tunics have been changed to robes.
20:03.18KemayoNah, nah, you're only hitting its *armor*.  Duh.
20:03.20NeoTronTHANK YOU THANK YOU
20:03.33NeoTronkenlyric: we have one good warrior
20:03.37Silviu-Yay ... i`ll respec my tailor now ^^
20:03.43kenlyricwe do too.
20:03.48kenlyricthat's how we found out about it.
20:03.59sbumeh :o
20:04.03Heriothe question is... how many badges?
20:04.11sbuthat tunic -> robe change is unfair ;o
20:04.16kenlyricthey need to make it so you can respec tailoring without starting at 1.
20:04.17Matrix110its not
20:04.20Matrix110its required
20:04.23Matrix110i look retarted
20:04.30NeoTronsbu: why?
20:04.34Matrix110Spellstrike pants +shadoweave vest...
20:04.34kenlyricwtf is the point of having cool pants if you can't see them?
20:04.35NeoTronI hate my fricking tunic
20:04.43kenlyricit's bee the same ugly tunic.
20:04.49kenlyricit'll just have a dress attached.
20:04.55Matrix110i dont want to see the pants i got-.-
20:05.06NeoTronrobes typically don't lack sleaves
20:05.16kenlyricso you can see your shirt!
20:05.19NeoTronI look really goofy with the voidheart helm
20:05.45AmadeoI think PitBull needs some good defaults
20:05.49NightHawkTheSaneI dont wear pants under my robes. >.>
20:06.04CIA-1103sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r32480 10DreamChat/: Dreamchat: Branching for PratPlugin-1.0 use
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20:09.06Diaoo:
20:09.11AmadeoNightHawkTheSane: Can I see?
20:11.38Aenslaedoh shi
20:11.44Aenslaeddreamchat release!
20:11.52Herioamerica
20:11.57Heriofuck yeah
20:12.05Heriocoming to down to save the mother fucking day yeah
20:12.10Herio*town
20:12.10deltronlol
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20:13.20NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: .....
20:14.00chutwigi see england i see france
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20:15.32Chosii've seen things i've seen them with my eyes
20:15.42FISKER_Qomg
20:15.48FISKER_Qsylvanaar is taking over the world by breaking it
20:16.13Diaoyay dreamchat update
20:16.21Diaoquestion
20:16.27DiaoDoes anyone in here know how to code for irc?
20:16.43chutwigdo what now?
20:16.47Herioirc is a programming language/
20:16.51Chosi;D
20:16.53DiaoI want to make a script that detects whenever CIA-11 says something and redirect it to another window
20:17.02Diaoso I can see all the latest SVN updates in one place
20:17.05Diaowithout the chat in between :P
20:17.07chutwiguh, that depends on your client, not IRC
20:17.10Chrisianyone knows a good mod which breaks the original blizzard bottom bar (and the additional original actionbars) into (moveable, resizeable, hideable) pieces
20:17.18Diaomirc*
20:17.19Diaosorry
20:17.25sylvanaarhow do i create a wiki page?
20:17.41HerioChrisi: Bartender?
20:17.48FISKER_Qjust type in the url you want sylvanaar
20:17.54sylvanaarthe only thing it ever mentions is edit
20:17.56FISKER_Qlike host.com/my_wiki_page
20:18.08FISKER_Qthen it will say "wtf this page doesn't exist, create it?"
20:18.08Diaoit'll say "no such page" and then you can edit it
20:18.09DiaoI think
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20:18.14sylvanaaroh
20:18.14Chrisiherio: thx, gonna see if that's what i'm looking for
20:18.17FISKER_Qexactly
20:18.28sylvanaarthat so does not make sense
20:18.36FISKER_QWell it's wikipedia
20:18.39Diaowhat are you trying to make a wiki for?
20:18.40sylvanaarthanks for the help tho
20:19.18Diaoooh
20:19.33DiaoI'll be waiting for release of dreamchat full compatibility with prat :D
20:21.31Saint-Nbut prat leads to dead babies
20:21.31nevcairieland more dead stuff
20:21.31nevcairielSCM ftw
20:21.31Saint-Nhehe ive been using cirks chatmanager and phlanx
20:21.32Saint-Nscm was too simple ;P
20:21.32nevcairielthere is no too simple
20:21.32Diaolol
20:21.32nevcairielever
20:21.32DiaoI haven't tried SCM
20:21.37nevcairielnot if you can code
20:21.37nevcairiel:)
20:21.39Diaobecause Prat does everything that I want
20:21.50nevcairielprat does everything i want too
20:21.52Saint-Nprat does morethan i want ;P
20:21.57nevcairielbut it also does everything i dont want
20:22.02Diaolol
20:22.13Saint-Nhehe read "its too simple" as "god im lazy"
20:22.18nevcairielhehe
20:22.20DiaoI use nearly all the modules in prat >.>
20:22.37Gngskcan't you just delete whatever you don't use in prat?
20:22.43Kirkburnyes
20:22.46ChrisiHerio: bartender actually adds his own bars as far as i understood - i'd prefer to use the existing ones by blizzard and just move them a bit?!
20:22.47KirkburnOr disable it
20:23.03Saint-Nchrisi: same diff ;P
20:23.09Diaobartender uses the actionIDs of blizzard buttons?
20:23.10Diaoi think
20:23.14GngskChrisi, that's how bartender2 worked, but you apparently can't do that anymore
20:23.15Saint-Nit's the same buttons
20:23.18Saint-Njust prettified
20:23.28nevcairielGngsk: you could, but i was too lazy
20:23.32Gngskahh
20:23.35Gngskthat works too
20:23.46nevcairielbut actually, i am working on BartenderLite, which basicly is Bartender2 TBCified
20:23.53Gngskneato
20:24.03Chrisihmm
20:24.06Saint-Nwhy?
20:24.08deltronwha
20:24.12JoshBorkewhat's wrong with Bartender3? :_(
20:24.18nevcairielnothing
20:24.26nevcairielits just a different design approach
20:24.29Saint-Nall bartender3 does is show you all the action bars includingthe pages
20:24.31nevcairielfor simplicity and low memory
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20:24.43Saint-Nenable the ones you want/use disable the ones you dont
20:24.48nevcairielbartender3 creates new buttons, and the blizzard buttons still hang aroudn somewhere
20:24.56Saint-Nreally?
20:25.01Saint-Nmine always go away ;P
20:25.02nevcairielbartender2 used to re-use the blizzard buttons
20:25.09nevcairielthey are hidden
20:25.13Saint-Nand maintain thier position as blizz buttons
20:25.13nevcairielbut still exist in memory :P
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20:25.22Chrisiaye
20:25.26KirkburnSo how 'finished' is PitBull now?
20:25.26Saint-Nit creates extras
20:25.34Saint-Nbut not to the extend of replacement
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20:25.46JoshBorkeKirkburn: not at all.  especially BarFader
20:25.47Chrisii think bartender3 is pretty much similiar to bongos
20:25.56nevcairielyeah it is
20:26.01nevcairielonly some features are different
20:26.09KirkburnLol, it's like I mention PitBull and it called out to him
20:26.18JoshBorkelol
20:26.29Diaolol
20:26.30ckknighthey all
20:26.41Antiarc|WorkBarFader needs some work, but it's really slick already.
20:26.41Chrisiwell, the idea was to move the original bars to increase compatibility
20:26.42KirkburnWho the hell are y... oh, I mean hello :)
20:26.43ckknightKirkburn: I believe you summoned me?
20:26.54ckknightjk
20:26.56Diaohaha
20:26.57KirkburnNot willingly ;)
20:27.04Antiarc|WorkI'd love if there were a way to make BarFader have chunks get "knocked off" Soul Calibur style :D
20:27.07ScrapyHi. my fubar have a problem with i have change scale on my interface... /rl and relunch don't repair the problem
20:27.08Antiarc|WorkI might have to do that.
20:27.16nevcairielanyway, when 2.1.0 hits PTR, i will hopefully be able to use the new state stack features for something good
20:27.26Kirkburnckknight, I just said "<Kirkburn> So how 'finished' is PitBull now?" ... JB told me "not at all"
20:27.29Saint-Ndon't relunch?
20:27.30nevcairieland have BartenderLite ready for 2.1.0 live
20:27.36Chrisiok
20:27.47ckknightKirkburn: it's not finished, it's very much an alpha product
20:27.52Chrisigonna keep that in mind and stay with bongos then
20:27.56Scrapymhh ?
20:27.58Diaosylvanaar: just a note on what I posted on forums about worlddefense not working
20:28.03ckknightand frankly, it'll be a while before it becomes finished
20:28.08Diaoit was with dreamchat disabled, so just the default blizzard chat frames
20:28.11ckknightlook how long FuBar and Cartographer took
20:28.17ckknightor Ace2
20:28.20ckknightet al
20:28.33Chrisii mean, to use complete new bars just to have them moved seems a little bit overkill, thus why i asked
20:28.43nevcairielyea
20:29.05nevcairielplus 2.1.0 adds memory profiling, i wonder how much mem new bars actually use
20:29.28Scrapyccknight ?
20:29.41ckknightScrapy: spell my name properly.
20:29.48Daemonackknight i got repeated problems with "PitbullCluster2UnitButtonX" being transparently overlaying stuff of my interface when i am in a raid grp. any idea?
20:29.48Chrisiaye
20:29.53Scrapyckknight, sorry
20:30.21ckknightDaemona: odd
20:30.34ckknightDaemona: hover over it and do /print GetMouseFocus():GetUnit()
20:30.37ckknighttell me the result
20:30.37hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/kraator.jpg darn
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20:30.57Daemonahmmm raid14
20:31.05moonsorrowckknight: raid frames are hidden, but they are actually there. I have to show/hide them to get rid of them
20:31.05Daemonabut i am hiding raidframes as i use grid for that
20:31.25Morghusckknight, I was wondering: What do I enter into the 'Copy from' box to copy from another character on the server?
20:31.45ckknightMorghus: you select from the radio list
20:32.10Daemonamoonsorrow showing/hiding again doesnt solve it for me.
20:32.21Kirkburnckknight, Ace2 is finished? :P
20:33.08ckknightKirkburn: yes, until Blizzard's next patch, when iterative fixes will be tacked on
20:33.11ckknighte.g. Whisper comm
20:33.17ckknightbut it's essentially feature complete
20:34.11Morghusckknight: I'm not sure what you mean. Radio list?
20:34.12hyperChipmunki keep meaning to put in tab-completes for ace console commands (e.g. addon completion for /ace disable) but i never seem to get around to doing it
20:34.19Diaodropdown list
20:34.46hyperChipmunkChoose one:  ( ) foo  (o) bar  ( ) baz
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20:34.51hyperChipmunkthat's a radio button
20:35.13Chosikah zig sto blaz!
20:35.26hyperChipmunklike a checkbox list, but you can only have one selected at a time
20:35.33Chosithe first who tells me from which game i took this gains 100 reputation
20:35.41Chosi:>
20:35.51MorghusPitBull/Profile/Copy from [write something here]. There's no radio-buttons there. I'm sorry if I didn't specify :(
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20:41.39ckknightKirkburn: Whisper comm... also a nice way to view Blizzard's profiling stuff
20:41.42Daemonackknight not even reloading the UI does remove that frame :/
20:41.53ckknightI wouldn't think it would
20:42.15Kirkburnckknight, anywhere I can find out more about this?
20:42.28ckknightKirkburn: blizz forum, also frontpage of wowi
20:42.33Daemonawell so how will i get rid of the frames blocking some action bars? ;)
20:42.41ckknightyou wait for me to fix it.
20:42.44Daemonai cant even get em to SHOW to move them out of the way ;)
20:42.55Daemonahmmmm
20:42.56Daemonak :/
20:43.49Kirkburnckknight, oh that profiling stuff
20:44.36moonsorrowI vote for ckknight to write a nice fubar plugin to view the profiling data
20:44.47ckknightoh, I will
20:44.48Silviu-Daemona i managed to fix those invisible things by enabling all hidden frames, then disable them
20:44.52ckknightI mean, shouldn't be hard
20:44.54moonsorrowperfect :)
20:44.59Silviu-I got around 8 erros, reloadui and workrd
20:45.05ckknightmoonsorrow: did you see the profiling stuff I put into PitBull?
20:45.06Silviu-worked*
20:45.11moonsorrowsure
20:45.27deltronfubar needs a foobar2000 plugin :)
20:45.28Silviu-Btw
20:45.33Silviu-ckknight u sure u commited the right file ? ( sorry if i bother u ) still no conf with party frames :p
20:46.14sylvanaarDiao wha? sounds odd
20:46.41CIA-1103ckknight * r32483 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - nicer handling of raid configmode.
20:47.52moonsorrowckknight: the pitbull profiling is great, but it's impossible to play with it, I drop from 70 frames to 4
20:48.38winkilleranyone seen this before? http://www.imagewoof.com/view_image/6a7881659/WoWScrnShot_041207_001416.jpg
20:48.44ckknightmoonsorrow: it's to do ongoing testing with
20:48.51ckknightnot to play with
20:49.11sylvanaari look like an ass typing "." into the localdefense channel
20:49.43Diaolol
20:49.48Diaoit's worlddefense that has the problem for me
20:49.53Diaolocaldefense works fine for some erason
20:50.10hyperChipmunkdo it in like silithus or something
20:50.15hyperChipmunknobody goes there anymore
20:50.53sylvanaarok, im going to spam all of proudmoore now
20:51.28sylvanaarim not allowed to type in it
20:51.34sylvanaaron my level 1
20:51.36deltronwinkiller: that yours?
20:51.41winkillernope
20:51.45winkillerthen I wouldn'T ask
20:51.48deltronlol
20:51.51winkillerbut it looks damn nice imo
20:51.58deltronnice theme and font
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20:52.05winkilleryea
20:52.06moonsorrowckknight: I agree, but maybe the profiling from blizzard works in a normal environment with many events and method calls without that loss in fps
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20:52.44ckknightmoonsorrow: you do realize that PitBull's does as well. Displaying the results takes the FPS away, not the data gathering.
20:52.50ckknightit gathers data when the display is not shown
20:53.10moonsorrowoh really? thought it's only gathering when I activate the tablet window
20:53.25ckknightno
20:53.40moonsorrowThen forget what I said :)
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20:55.36hyperChipmunkthe menu entry does use the verb "profile" instead of "show", so it's an understandable mistake
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20:57.37moonsorrowckknight: 5 updates per second to the tablet really causes my fps to go from 70 to 4?
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20:57.49ckknightmoonsorrow: there's over 100 lines of the tablet.
20:57.53ckknightall rendered
20:58.54CIA-1103ckknight * r32484 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
20:58.54CIA-11PitBull - make configMode show the new clusters properly.
20:58.54CIA-11- fix bug where raid clusters were made without precedent.
20:59.16ckknightSilviu-, Daemona: ^---
21:00.42moonsorrowckknight: then I will change the update rate to some seconds :D
21:00.43JoshBorke100 lines shouldn't take that long to render...
21:01.00ckknightmoonsorrow: that'd work
21:01.14moonsorrowit's just to look at that table, with 4 fps you can't scroll that good
21:01.18ckknightJoshBorke: Tablet does a lot of funky calculations to make sure the columns line up properly
21:01.31ckknightas well as know that each line has like 7 columns in it
21:03.14KirkburnOoh, OLED TVs are coming :)
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21:07.08AmadeoWhat do I do to add more textures to PitBull?
21:07.18Kirkburn2.1 PTR timing: "we're hoping by tomorrow or early next week" - Tigole
21:07.28KemayoOh thank god, a Forest Song flight point.
21:07.46NightHawkTheSaneo_0
21:07.55NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn: tahts seems awfully quick
21:07.59KillmoreKirkburn: source ? :P
21:08.09Kirkburnhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94849717&pageNo=1&sid=1#0
21:08.20Kirkburnvia http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/12/raid-hotfixes-and-2-1-ptr-eta/
21:08.39AmadeoGood, it's about time
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21:10.32vhaarrthey could've delayed black temple another couple of months
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21:10.42JoshBorkei agree
21:10.43xyui agree
21:10.47JoshBorkewith vhaar
21:10.52AmadeoWhy delay it?
21:12.02xyumarketing reasons imo :D
21:12.04xyu$$
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21:12.32CIA-1103roartindon * r32485 10Aloft/CoreModules/LevelText.lua: Aloft: LevelText - changes to reapply position options on nameplate show
21:12.42AmadeoBlizzard needs to hold the big releases out for Warhammer Online beta/release
21:13.05AmadeoThe Age of Conan beta is starting, maybe that's why they're hurrying up with 2.1 :P
21:13.22vhaarrthey're hurrying because all the other stuff in 2.1 is a godsend
21:13.33AmadeoTo them?
21:13.54vhaarrto us
21:14.15Heriothey could just put those in a minor version # patch >.<
21:14.22ZypherAOC is bomb hope i get in beta
21:14.25AmadeoWell, money first, then community :P
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21:15.23AmadeoI'll need a new computer for AoC probably
21:15.41Zypherjust finished mine :P
21:15.53MorghusTulling ><
21:15.55Morghusmt :o
21:16.19knarf^_^anyone else having "hidden" frames that are clickable, think it is pitbull who does it
21:16.21xyuCan any of you recommend a way to look for the "best" healadin gear for a preraid pally?   what site would you use?  :D
21:16.29AmadeoZypher: Nice, want to finish mine too? :)
21:16.36ckknightknarf^_^: did you update fully?
21:16.45CIA-1103sylvanaar * r32486 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Server channels which don't use the <channel> - <zone> form, will fallback to the <channel> only form
21:16.47knarf^_^define fully :P
21:16.54Zypher@xyu: http://wowhead.com
21:16.57Diaoxyu: the tier2 lookalike
21:17.04Diaois great healing gear
21:17.20ckknightknarf^_^: did you update PitBull?
21:17.25ckknightI fixed that bug
21:17.27xyui dont want great, i want gbest :P
21:17.27Zypher@amadeo: sadly i had some water issues and hadda replace a gfx card spensive
21:17.28xyubest*
21:17.42Zypherhttp://wowhead.com
21:17.48Diaoit's probably the best preraid gear
21:17.49Diaohttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=27790#M0z
21:17.51Diaoread the comment
21:18.00knarf^_^ckknight i'm running r32463
21:18.13ckknightyou're out of date
21:18.25Zypher@anyone i need better raid frames Q_Q
21:18.33ckknightZypher: working on it
21:18.35knarf^_^how out of date? :P
21:18.52ckknightknarf^_^: 10 minutes or so
21:18.52Zypherckknight: thnx
21:19.02ckknighteither way, the bug is fixed
21:19.04knarf^_^hehe, i'm raiding atm :)
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21:19.19Zyphergfu
21:19.26xyuhmm i have the chest, helm from that set
21:19.33xyubut it's only +440 healing?
21:19.47Zypher442 +Healing
21:20.59AmadeoWell, in that case!
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21:21.24Kadishpenis
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21:23.26deltronI specced enhancement like 2 weeks ago, but I still collect gear for all specs :P
21:24.30Diaowell you can't just stack +healing on a paladin
21:24.35Diaoyou need spellcrit and mp5 too :P
21:24.54NeoTronI hope when shadoweave vest becomes a robe it won't look so retarded with the voidheart helm
21:25.17NeoTronin fact spell crit is pretty important
21:25.22Diaoyeah
21:25.24NeoTronalthough they are nerfing illumination
21:25.35DiaoMy friend has 30% spellcrit as a paladin.. she never runs out of mana
21:25.37NeoTronguess it became too easy to stack the crit
21:25.45DiaoShe healed with flash of light for like
21:25.48Diao12 minutes straight
21:25.49Diaolol
21:25.57NeoTronflash of light is so mana efficient
21:26.21Zyphercan you auth on Freenode?
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21:26.51Diaoif you're registered yes
21:26.57Zypherwhere do you reg?
21:27.04Diao/msg nickserv register password
21:29.33Zypherfudge somone has my name
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21:31.38CIA-1103ckknight * r32488 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix bug where clusters would mess up their children's positions and unitsuffixes.
21:32.40Zypher@ckknight: do you know of any raid frames similar to RDX5 ones?
21:32.52ckknightnever used RDX, so can't help you
21:34.41cladhaireZypher: why not use the RDX5 ones?
21:34.45CIA-1103ckknight * r32489 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - now can change the hide party members in raid thing while in config mode
21:34.57ZypherRDX5 is useless with 2.0
21:35.15cladhairewhy is that?
21:35.21cladhaireseems to work just fine for plenty of users.
21:35.31cladhaireits updates regularly, etc.
21:35.31Zypherwhere do you see that?
21:35.47cladhairehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5680-RDX.Cid.html
21:36.03DiaoRDX is so laggy :(
21:36.16Zypherthey don't have any bossmods, i don't see the point of using the addon if it doesn't serve its main purpose
21:36.23Zypherand RDX.Cid is laggy
21:36.35cladhaire*shrug*
21:36.49Zypheritd be like using bigwigs without any boss timers
21:37.05Diaoisn't RDX an all-in-one raid addon supposedly
21:37.16Zyphersortof
21:37.17cladhaireRDX 6 is
21:37.20ZypherRDX 6 yea
21:37.23cladhaireRdx.Cid is just raid frames
21:37.50Diaooh
21:38.06Diaooriginal RDX 5 had everything didn't it?
21:38.17Zypherwell the deal was, that was a leaked version
21:38.24cladhairewell this RDX still does for the most part
21:38.27dottedrdx is too complicated and laggy, kinda like a discord raid mod :p
21:38.30cladhairejust.. not updated frequently, since there are better ones.
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21:39.05Zypheridk, i enjoyed the leaked version for a while
21:39.07Zypherlol
21:39.20Diaolol
21:39.49deltronrdx not an open mod?
21:39.56Punkie`you pay for it
21:39.57Zypherid personnaly buy my guild the package if i wasn't finnancially retarted
21:40.06deltronwhat
21:40.07Zypherhttp://rdx-raid.com
21:40.10Diaoyou pay for "subscription" to the website
21:40.12deltronthat is stupid
21:40.40Zypherperhaps, but some of the features are very nice
21:41.03deltronhttp://www.download.com/Sanjaya-War-Dialer/3000-2155_4-10653730.html?tag=lst-0-1 <-- lol
21:41.33kenlyric<PROTECTED>
21:41.44Zypherthats hot deltron
21:41.58Diaowar dialer o_O
21:42.07Diaorofl
21:42.16deltronif it works
21:42.43MorghusI just realized I didn't get a reply last time. In the ...Profile/Copy from/[Something]. What do I write there to copy from i.e. another character?
21:43.15ckknightMorghus: copy from has a radio dialog, not a text box.
21:43.21ckknightupdate your Dewdrop maybe.
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21:44.51Morghus... d'oh! I've been using Niagara for that all the time instead of the Dewdrop. Dear lord I suck.
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21:45.55deltronI don't see any of the top guilds using RDX :P
21:46.17Zypherthey did in Naxx, then he started chargin
21:46.59PHL-Chuckis pitbull working for anyone?  few updates I got today don't load giving an erroc
21:47.10Diaowith DBM and bigwigs
21:47.14Diaoyou don't really need RDX anymore
21:47.50dottedever needed RDX??
21:48.03dotteddeltron didnt DnT use it?
21:48.43deltrondunno, I just heard about it today :P
21:48.45dottedPHL-Chuck always say what the error is
21:48.49dottedheh
21:49.12ckknightPhatrik: yea, not saying the error doesn't help anyone
21:49.17PHL-Chuck[2007/04/12 17:40:00-47-x1]: PitBull-r32484\PitBull.lua:286: attempt to index local 'unit' (a nil value)
21:49.28kovii think it was FoH who originally used it
21:49.39kovibut yeah, not really that great now any more
21:49.45kovibut then it was really great
21:49.50Zypherscions of destiny
21:50.10PHL-ChuckAceEvent-2.0-30806 (Ace2):251: in function `TriggerEvent'
21:50.10ckknightPHL-Chuck: quite sure I fixed that...
21:50.11PHL-ChuckAceEvent-2.0-30806 (Ace2):997: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:990>
21:50.17koviyeah those were the first, but it became 'famous' with that heigan vid from FoH
21:50.19koviafaik
21:50.20ckknightwait, no
21:50.20ckknighthrm
21:50.27ckknightPHL-Chuck: how to reproduce?
21:50.32Zypherthe cotton eye joe guys right?
21:50.35deltronFoH?
21:50.39PHL-Chuckjust loading up
21:50.55PHL-ChuckI was doing without externals.. I'm switching back, but it worked last night
21:51.13Zyphersure it isn't conquest?
21:51.29kovihm
21:51.37koviyeah i'm confusing something
21:51.39koviit's conquest
21:51.41kovi:PP
21:51.44Zypherconquest released one of the first Heigan vids
21:51.46Zypheri still have it
21:51.47Zypher:P
21:51.55Zypherwatching now
21:52.02koviwith the hamsterdance!
21:52.05kovihm
21:52.06Zypheryap
21:52.08kovihow did i confuse those 2
21:52.09kovi:(
21:52.23Zypherteh dps warrior in Might
21:52.26Zypherhow cna u forget that
21:52.31dottedso what dmg meters are you guys using?
21:52.31kovidying on the first dance
21:52.33kovi-_-
21:52.38Zypheryap
21:52.41deltrondotted: sw_stats2
21:52.47Zyphersw_stats ftw
21:52.54deltronsw_stats > *
21:52.55deltronby far
21:53.03dottednah i dont like it
21:53.13dottedat least not its UI
21:53.28deltronlearn to embrace it
21:53.43dottedi used it my self for a long time
21:53.51deltronit will tell you more and be more accurate than anything else out there
21:53.52Zypheruse it wif fubar
21:53.53dottedbut im using Recap now
21:54.11dottedZypher i did
21:54.28Zypheri don't use it as a tank
21:54.32Zypherbut, its nice to have
21:54.41Zypherkeeps things safe
21:54.49dotteddeltron you got proof of that?
21:55.12dottedRecap has the est UI by far tbh
21:55.22dotted*best
21:55.29PHL-Chucknah just reinstalled everything using with externals and same error, I deleted the wtf stuff for it too
21:55.57dottedAnd since its ace2 it is also sexy :P
21:56.05deltronrecap is pretty heh
21:56.12deltronbut it's not very accurate
21:56.20dottedhow is that?
21:56.38deltronit used to have big issues with pets
21:56.57deltronwe had a hunter name one of his pets after me also, that really screwed recap up hehe
21:57.05deltronback when I was resto
21:58.20deltrondoes recap have syncing now also?
21:58.25dottedyup
21:58.28deltronnice
21:58.36dottedhttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5467/recap-hawksy/
21:58.46Zypheridk i don't have an issue with SW_Stats UI
21:58.53Zypherwhat don't you like?
21:59.18deltronI think sw_stats looks fine, I like having different 'tabs' for different reports I want to view
21:59.23dottedtake ages to make it look nice and show the info you want to see
21:59.23Zyphersame
21:59.36Zypherbut once setup
21:59.41Zypheryou don't really have to touch it
22:00.18deltrontakes a bit of getting used to but it just works
22:00.37dotteduntil you savedvariables data fuck up you can spend the next 15-30 mins redoing it
22:00.48deltronby then you should be a pro :)
22:01.00Zypherthat happens sometimes
22:01.04Zypheri keep backups of my whole hdd tho
22:01.05Zypher:P
22:01.43dottedrecap is hot nuff said :p
22:02.03Zypherpreference imo
22:02.17dottedeverything is
22:02.34deltron:P
22:02.44Kemayo"Profession recipes that had 24 hour or longer cooldowns, have had their cooldowns reduced by 1 hour." <-- Okay, seriously, why bother?
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22:03.04Roartindonckknight: If module A registers event "samename", then module B later registers event "samename", will TriggerEvent always call module A's handler before module B's?
22:03.09dottedsince im an ace2 zealot thats another reason for me to use recap :p
22:03.20ckknightRoartindon: not sure, but I believe so.
22:03.25rubikKemayo: apparently, it's a big deal for ppl who lose a few minutes each day on transmutes
22:03.33ckknightRoartindon: actually, I believe it might be indeterminate
22:03.37rubikso by end of week, they're behind an hour and can't just log in at same hour of day to do transmute.. shrug
22:03.49Roartindonhmm okay.. I might have to build up my own dependency list then
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22:04.21Kemayorubik: Okay, yeah, I can see that.  I've never quite been zealous enough to actually keep all my transmutes on cooldown, so it's never bothered me.
22:04.24deltronthere's good non-ace2 mods out there
22:04.36deltronthough sw_stats2 is the only one I use :P
22:04.43dotteddeltron idd NECB and Atlas
22:04.51deltronyeah NECB is nice
22:04.56deltroncartographer > atlas by far
22:05.01dottednah
22:05.05deltronyah
22:05.06KemayoYeah, why use Atlas instead of Cart?
22:05.07deltron:D
22:05.08dottednot for instances
22:05.08CIA-1103ckknight * r32491 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - :UpdateLayout turned into a lazy method. (i.e. don't update twice in a row)
22:05.10JoshBorkedeltron: lies!  there are no good non-ace mods!
22:05.22deltrondotted: how so? cart has all instances in it
22:05.27deltronloot tables and all
22:05.44ckknightdotted: fun fact: Atlas2's instance display code is 75% Cartographer
22:05.50Diaoi use both
22:06.12dottedckknight i know
22:06.12deltronckknight: hah really?
22:06.12ckknightyea, deltron
22:06.12deltronthat's funny
22:06.13Kemayodotted: What does Atlas do better for instances?
22:06.18dottedbut what have the coding to do with the UI? ;)
22:06.30dottedUI
22:07.30dottedi use cart btw its awsome, just not for instances imo
22:08.11NightHawkTheSaneI like AtlasLoot as a standalone over cart's instanceloot. >.>
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22:09.44Diaoyeah
22:09.47Diaoatlasloot has the factions too
22:09.48Diaowhich is win
22:09.53NightHawkTheSaneindeed
22:10.03vhaarrPT3Browser has it all, which is even better.
22:10.08NightHawkTheSaneplus it doesnt decide to arbitrarily shift to a different screen when i change zones. >.>
22:10.10ckknightfun fact: AtlasLoot is going to be slowly migrated over to Ace2
22:10.22ckknightat least, that's what I picked up from what Daviesh said
22:10.39deltronneat
22:10.39deltronok time to gtfo out of work
22:10.39deltronbbl
22:10.45dottedi hope Dan is doing it aswell
22:11.01dottedgive ace to the people and let the rest rot in hell =)
22:12.26ckknightwell, DanG is using assorted Ace2 libraries already
22:12.29ckknightDewdrop and such
22:12.47dottedreally?
22:13.00DiaoFrom what I heard yeah
22:13.10DiaoOr read on his forums
22:13.18ckknightI've read his code
22:13.21ckknight:-P
22:14.10ckknightbut if you may have noticed recently, Daviesh has been generous enough to put two Babble libraries into the svn
22:14.23ckknightwhich he'll be using in AtlasLoot
22:14.50NightHawkTheSaneoh, really?
22:15.02dottedi check the atlas forum daily for a post by dan saying im going ace2 :p
22:15.16dottedim so sad :(
22:15.29dottedand tired
22:15.37AmadeoLeopard delayed until October
22:15.54Amadeobecause iPhone is too important
22:16.04Zypher=)
22:17.25hyperChipmunkwooooooo http://69.14.77.214/kraator2.png
22:17.26dottedbtw ckknight i need you to explain me something, if 2 ace2 addons use AceLocale-2.1 and AceLocale-2.2 respectively will both AceLocales be loaded or is AceLibrary acting as a compatibility layer for the addon using the old version?
22:17.29hyperChipmunker
22:17.35hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/kraator2.jpg
22:17.46ckknightAceLocale-2.1 is deprecated and will no longer load
22:17.47hyperChipmunkwoooo =)
22:17.55Zyphernoice
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22:18.09ckknightbut to your point, AceLibrary sees them as _completely_ separate libraries with no connection whatsoever
22:18.23hyperChipmunkplate boots of +101 healing =P
22:18.25Roartindondamn.. October...
22:18.33Zypherchipmunk why is ur map soooooo huge
22:18.40RoartindonMy Apple developer connection subscription of course, runs out in september.
22:18.55dottedthen what does AceLibrary do then excatly?
22:18.57NightHawkTheSaneRoartindon: lol. /cry :)
22:19.07hyperChipmunkZypher: because i'm a hunter
22:19.12hyperChipmunkand i pvp quite a lot
22:19.15ckknightdotted: something that is stated on the wiki.
22:19.32Zypheroic pvp
22:19.41AmadeoRoartindon: Maybe you can get a free phone :D
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22:19.59Zypheri inadvertently know the son of apple's VP
22:20.03RoartindonAmadeo: I wish :P
22:20.17dottedckknight where i have only seen api documentation - nothing i can make any sence of
22:20.22AmadeoSteve Jarbs
22:20.43Zyphernaw, his kid plays hockey
22:21.00Amadeoon golden skates
22:21.02ckknightAceLibrary just stores library instances and allows an updating sequence if a newer version of that same library is updated.
22:21.07ckknightthat's about it.
22:21.07Zypheryap
22:21.13dottedah
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22:21.58KirkburnAmadeo, I knew I just KNEW it
22:22.17vhaarrhyperChipmunk: lol, did you solo Kraator?
22:22.18AmadeoKirkburn: I don't keep up to date anyway!
22:22.20KirkburnSo many Apple zealots saying "no, no, they really will release in Spring"
22:22.26Kirkburn"No really, June is spring!"
22:22.38hyperChipmunkvhaarr: yep; two full circuits around the zone =D
22:22.48Kirkburn"Cause like 3 days before the solstice = spring!"
22:22.50vhaarrhyperChipmunk: was that your 29-minutes-of-ammo thing? :P
22:22.56hyperChipmunkno
22:23.00hyperChipmunkthat was hemathion
22:23.06vhaarrkraator is a bitch
22:23.24NightHawkTheSanekraator -is- a bitch.
22:23.28hyperChipmunkfirst time i've ever seen him
22:23.33AmadeoWhat'd he drop?
22:23.41hyperChipmunkplate boots of +101 healing O_o
22:23.50AmadeohyperChipmunk can probably just tank him, he's got like 20,000 HP on his Hunter
22:23.56NightHawkTheSanehe just drops blue boots of a random armor type and random mod.
22:23.57hyperChipmunklol
22:24.10dottedi think soloing azyragos is imba
22:24.16hyperChipmunkno, you can see i'm in my kiting gear
22:24.19dottedor what ever the name is
22:24.19KirkburnAzuregos?
22:24.23hyperChipmunkonly 11317
22:24.28Amadeohaha
22:24.30hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/kraator2.jpg
22:24.31MorghusSoloed Azu in 30 minutes? :O
22:24.35PProvost~seen shadmar
22:25.36purli haven't seen 'shadmar', PProvost
22:25.36dottedno 1h and 27m iirc
22:25.36hyperChipmunki've never thought to try azuregos
22:25.36MorghusAh. Still. Damn. That's insane
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22:25.36dottedthe hunter had +1400 healing - mend pet ftw
22:25.36Amadeohow much gold does Azuregos drop? :)
22:25.36Zypherabt 100
22:25.37Morghus100-130?
22:25.37Amadeoaww
22:25.49hyperChipmunki do hemathion, marticar, nuramoc daily, and i've killed lieutenant drake and now kraator
22:25.56PProvostDoes anyone know if shadmar hangs here with another nick?
22:26.05hyperChipmunkoh, and fulgorge
22:26.11dottedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_-_3tfmU-o
22:26.13NightHawkTheSanenerf hunters
22:26.21Zypherim watching atm
22:26.23Zypherlawl
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22:26.50PProvostckknight, ping
22:26.59dottedyet hunters in my guild claims hunters arent particular better to take on elites and higher level mobs -.-
22:27.01ckknightpong
22:27.03ckknightwhat's up?
22:27.07dottedpang
22:27.17PProvosthey, did you eliminate the 5px margin I needed to include for layouts?
22:27.21NightHawkTheSanedotted: your hunters are newbs. ;)
22:27.43dottedi didnt dare say it to them, but i sure thought of it :p
22:27.44ckknightyes, PProvost
22:28.14ckknightPProvost: still haven't added in the width/height ratio yet, been working on the whole raid grouping thing.
22:29.34hyperChipmunki'm getting tantalizingly close to be able to afford my epic mount =)
22:29.53JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: nice :-)
22:31.03Amadeowho is the hardest boss in the game right now?
22:31.17PProvostRight on, I'll update my layouts then.
22:31.39Zypherin the game?
22:31.49Zypherthat ppl are on?
22:31.51PProvostI just noticed that my Buu layout suddenly had a 5 pix margin. :)
22:32.21Eternally777This might sound a little off-topic... But I was writing a Lua script today that will rotate the WoWCombatLog whenever you run WoW
22:32.42AmadeoZypher: Yeah, that's been killed I guess
22:32.56JoshBorkelady vashj
22:33.01JoshBorkedouble spawn notsoez
22:33.05ZypherVasj
22:33.06CIA-1103pprovost * r32492 10PitBull/Layouts/Buu.lua: PitBull - Updated Buu layout to remove 5px margin
22:33.10ZypherVashj
22:33.24Amadeohm
22:33.52Amadeoany videos of the fight?
22:33.52dottedAmadeo Hogger
22:33.57JoshBorkeno amadeo
22:34.02Zyphernope
22:34.24PProvostSo nobody know if shadmar has another nick here?
22:34.28Aenslaedis there a way with aloft to have the castbars show even if you dont have that person targetted?
22:34.41PProvostWant to change GridStatusHots but want to check with him first
22:34.54AmadeoPProvost: No idea, and don't know who it is, unfortunately :)
22:35.05JoshBorkeAenslaed: not easily
22:35.05Eternally777It was my first time writing a script outside of WoW, and the first time I've ever played with coroutines, so I wondering if anyone would be willing to take a look at it and tell me how I did.  I think I'm using coroutines wrong though... http://pastey.net/11988
22:35.11AmadeoBut I figured I'd answer, since I'm a "nobody" :(
22:35.12Amadeohaha
22:35.18PProvostThanks Amadeo :)
22:35.59cladhaireEternally777: you shoudn't be using :lines() its incredibly inefficient.
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22:36.25Eternally777I tried using the "Performance Tweak" the lua manual demonstrates, but it seemed to be messing things up.
22:36.33cladhaireits not a tweak
22:36.44Eternally777Then I tried using string.gmatch, and that didn't fly so well either.
22:36.49cladhaireio.open(filename, "r"):read("*all") reads the entire file in.
22:36.55cladhairewithout interning the intermediary lines
22:37.00cladhaires/lines/strings/
22:37.27AenslaedJosh_Borke: Do you know if thats going to be an eventual feature for aloft? I just want to know if I can disable some of my castingbar features to be less spammy
22:37.42cladhaireEternally777: you shoudl be able to get the last line with a pattern, instead of parsing.
22:38.05cladhairebut its not horrible =)
22:38.09Eternally777Hmm, ok, I'll give that a try.
22:38.37JoshBorkeAenslaed: you can't get accurate cast bars for anything but primary units (party, player, target, focus)
22:38.38Eternally777What about the coroutine?  Is that implemented properly?  I don't see it saving any time, if that's what it's supposed to be doing.
22:39.30cladhairewell coroutines don't save time
22:39.36chutwigcan somebody tell me the watchdog tag for health percentage?
22:39.51Eternally777O.  I fail at understanding them then >.<
22:39.53ckknightchutwig: Watchdog tag or DogTag?
22:40.01ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0
22:40.04chutwigckknight: for pitbull's health display
22:40.09ckknightsee link, then
22:40.15chutwigm-kay
22:40.20cladhaireEternally777: coroutines allow you to have psuedo-multi threading in a single threaded application
22:40.35chutwigsanks
22:40.39cladhairethey can be used in wow to do a large data operation, and still let the game render.
22:41.13JoshBorkeletting the game render is lame
22:42.13Eternally777So you're saying that it's like a series of tubes...
22:42.25cladhairemany tubes, yes.
22:42.26dottedthats the internet
22:42.34NightHawkTheSaneyou mom is a series of tubes
22:42.56Eternally777Wow, I think I get it.. Srsly, for the first time since I started asking how to use coroutines, I think I get it.
22:43.17dottedNightHawkTheSane most living creatures are yes
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22:46.28JJSheetshyperChipmunk, ping
22:47.00hyperChipmunkyo
22:47.12JJSheetsany cooldown issues?
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22:48.15hyperChipmunkrange coloring don't work properly, /castsequence macros don't switch icon (but do switch tooltip), and errors comin' out of my ears
22:48.22hyperChipmunkno cooldown issues
22:48.34JJSheetslol
22:48.47JJSheetscool... I killed the cooldown bugs.
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22:49.16JJSheetserrors, line number and message.
22:50.05hyperChipmunkdon't have 'em atm =P
22:50.12hyperChipmunksorry
22:50.13JJSheetslol
22:50.27OminousJJSheets: got a few nil compare to nil errors, not atm tho
22:50.33Ominousand no range comoring
22:50.38Ominousbut cooldowns work
22:50.52hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/kraator2.jpg see my bugsack?
22:50.54hyperChipmunkthem's all yours
22:51.26JJSheetsheh
22:51.45CIA-1103rabbit * r32493 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: .SharedMedia-1.0: Add a "None" sound to the default list of sounds, attempts to play "Interface\\Quiet.mp3", which doesn't exist and both PlaySoundFile and PlaySound fails gracefully on.
22:52.01JJSheetswell, as soon as I get file, line, and error, I can start killing them... until then I'm fixing my profile code.
22:52.14hyperChipmunkyea, on a taxi atm
22:52.18hyperChipmunki'll get 'em for ya
22:53.38unduIs there any command in mirc to open a new server window, or do you have to do it through the options?
22:53.46vodrin<PROTECTED>
22:53.51unducool.
22:54.08vodrin<PROTECTED>
22:54.15vodrinopens new window and connects to address
22:54.32unduwhat happens if you put that in perform, and you put in /join #channel aswell, can you specify server for the /join command?
22:54.45unduor does it automatically put it into the latest server window
22:54.45vodrin<PROTECTED>
22:54.51unduok cool
22:54.53unduThanks. :)
22:55.00vodrinnp
22:57.33AmadeohyperChipmunk: You have a big minimap
22:57.42Silviu-ckknight sometimes today my buffs go a little strange like in this screenshot but they go back to normal after some seconds http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041307015747um8.jpg
22:57.42hyperChipmunklol
22:57.50hyperChipmunkeverybody says that
22:57.52NightHawkTheSanegod, jack harkness is so gay
22:57.53AmadeoWhoa, huge buttons too
22:58.00Amadeoa few gigantic ones, and the rest are tiny
22:58.04CIA-1103fleetfoot * r32494 10DarkCandy/DarkCandy.lua:
22:58.04CIA-11DarkCandy:
22:58.04CIA-11- Added anchors to pattern matching.
22:58.04CIA-11- Minor cleanups.
22:58.12hyperChipmunkyea, those are my alert ones
22:58.41hyperChipmunkthey activate on combat abilities, or have medium-long cooldown
22:58.51Amadeowhat do I do to get more textures in PitBull? I think I asked before, but I don't remember if anyone answered :P
22:58.54hyperChipmunker, combat actions
22:59.34Silviu-Amadeo get SharedMedia
22:59.39hyperChipmunkSurfaces?
23:00.18AmadeoSurfaces eh? I have SharedMediaLib...I guess more in SharedMedia?
23:00.20GagorianJJSheets: Support seems to work nicely
23:00.45JJSheetsyeah, I saw your change, I assume it's better than my way was, and it looks cleaner too :)
23:00.46NightHawkTheSaneSharedMedia basically just registeres a bunch of textures with SharedMediaLib iirc
23:00.48GagorianI modified a bit of the code, but seems to work
23:01.11GagorianWell, I had a function for comparing that data so I thought I'd use it :)
23:01.18hyperChipmunkJJSheets: oh, yea, in-combat fading of shadowmeld doesn't work, still, either
23:01.30GagorianLet me verify one thing.. If the update returns '' the text doesn't change?
23:01.37JJSheetsyou're going to make me roll a Nelf. :p
23:01.41Gagorianas in.. it doesn't set it to ""
23:02.08hyperChipmunkwell, probably true for all noncombat-only abilities
23:02.20JJSheetsGagorian, nope... clears it out... though I have a sneaking suspicion I should now implement a cache in that text sub, Gagorian :)
23:02.24hyperChipmunkrez, stealth, etc
23:02.31JJSheetshyperChipmunk, yeah...
23:02.52JJSheetsthat stuff I hadn't worked on... still need to get channelling and next melee spells too
23:03.04hyperChipmunkyep
23:03.17Gagoriansince now, it will return '' for spells that won't need updating in single spell updates
23:03.21*** part/#wowace Zypher (n=Zypher04@adsl-69-109-118-137.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
23:03.55GagorianCache would be nice indeed.. or then return something like "DONT F****ING CHANGE ANYTHING" and it keeps the old value
23:04.20GagorianBut, that would require cacheing?
23:04.31AmadeoSurfaces worked, thanks :)
23:04.33JJSheetshmmmm
23:05.01JJSheetsI was gonna say same thing, but you're right... if it returns nil and can just tell it not to update...
23:05.31GagorianYeah that'd work with the current code
23:05.36JJSheetsactually no...
23:05.43GagorianWell, on DrDamage's part :p
23:06.03JJSheetsif a person decided to use multiple tags in the textsub one might update and the other not...
23:06.10AmadeoI wish the PvP/rest/etc icons in PitBull weren't on the bar edges, makes it hard to line stuff up :P
23:06.11JJSheetsit'll be cheaper to cache...
23:06.19JJSheetsbut I'll implement that myself... :)
23:06.31GagorianAlright
23:06.44JJSheetsso o get this straight... if the CheckAction function returns nil it means don't change anything?
23:07.22Gagorianwell, that your update function returns nil
23:07.45GagorianCheckAction should technically never be nil
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23:07.50JJSheetshmmm
23:07.51Gagorianas long as the spell and rank is valid
23:08.06JJSheetsI'll fiddle with it when I get the chance.  :)
23:08.24GagorianSo, casting a dot on a target would trigger the update event with "Drain Life"
23:08.31CIA-1103rabbit * r32495 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: .SharedMedia-1.0: Add a 3rd argument to :Fetch, noDefault.
23:08.41Mikmawho's been updating Mendeleev lately?
23:08.43Gagorianso only if the buttons spellName == "Drain Life" you'll get a numeric value, else nil
23:08.49vhaarrMikma: me
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23:09.15GagorianJJSheets: The function can return whatever though if you like to retain nil as clearing
23:09.15Mikmavhaarr: any change on getting the lovely feature from KC_Items in? Putting mend-shit in the second tooltip KC_Items makes?
23:09.27JJSheetsnah '' is best for clearing.
23:09.30vhaarrMikma: I don't use KCI
23:09.37NickenyfikenI hate that KCI feat :-P
23:09.38JoshBorkemikma:  OWNED!
23:09.57Mikmawell it was supported with KC_items (ace1), and now it's gone.
23:10.02Mikmaaka you suck folks
23:10.07JJSheetslol
23:10.08vhaarrno
23:10.10vhaarrGandharva sucks
23:10.16Mikmahim too
23:10.21vhaarrhe moved it from branches to trunk
23:10.24Mikma~rinsult
23:10.36vhaarrwithout asking me
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23:11.41GagorianJJSheets: Ok so, returning nil will not update or clear text. Yes?
23:11.53Mikmalet's see now..
23:12.31JJSheetshow about this... return a number or a string, it sets it to that value.  return '', it sets it to '' (clears), return nil, and it doesn't change anything.
23:12.54Mikmavhaarr: using trac to see when it was removed :D
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23:13.09vhaarrMikma: I removed it, but I was working on a *branch* of Mendeleev.
23:13.37mjcugh, my tooth hurts bad. need to go to the dentist
23:13.43Mikmavhaarr: well that's why i asked it back hehe
23:13.52GagorianJJSheets: Sounds good.
23:13.56vhaarrMikma: I don't give a shit, I didn't move the crap to trunk.
23:14.04vhaarrMikma: Gandharva moved it to trunk, replacing the old version, without asking me.
23:14.13vhaarrso it's his problem now
23:14.16Mikmavhaarr: yeah i don't blame you, but i'm asking the feature back :)
23:14.21vhaarrindeed
23:14.25vhaarrI'm just saying it won't happen
23:14.51Mikmawhy is that
23:15.00vhaarrwho's going to add it, you think?
23:15.03vhaarrnot me
23:15.21Mikmayes you, you removed it?
23:15.27vhaarrNo, I did not.
23:15.36vhaarrI removed it from MY branch.
23:15.38mjcGandharva did
23:15.39mjc:p
23:15.46MikmaGandharva: asshole
23:15.51Mikmathat should wake him up
23:15.57mjcguess I won't be updating mendy
23:15.59mjc:D
23:16.13JJSheetslol
23:16.13Gandharva:P
23:16.14Mikmaupdating is ok, removing features is lame
23:16.19Mikmasuperlame++
23:16.42CIA-1103rabbit * r32496 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: Uses SharedMedia-1.0 instead of Surfaces-1.0, might be some regressions, please test it a bit.
23:18.25Gandharvaif itīs such a prob, i'll move the old version back tomorrow and use branch again. but 4 now i am going to sleep. asshole :P
23:18.54Mikmadon't remove features, that's lame
23:19.14JJSheetsNo, not liking Cheesy Poofs is lame.
23:19.34mjcGandharva: fix it now. :P
23:20.20Gandharvai didn't remove any feature. yust moved rabbits version from branches to trunk.
23:21.09mjcyep, and he removed the feature
23:21.32Gandharvano, he did't implement it yet. i guess.
23:21.39GagorianJJSheets: One more thing. Does your function also work on macros?
23:21.44JJSheetsyes
23:21.47Gagoriannice
23:21.57JJSheetsnot sure if it supports them perfectly... :)
23:22.10JJSheetsbut it ought to.  :)
23:22.36JJSheetsif not I'm sure hyperChipmunk or Ominous will throw something at me if I don't notice it myself. :)
23:22.54Nickenyfikenlol my PitBull partyframes just got anchored to the mousepointer and refuse to let go :-P
23:22.58OminousJJSheets: ofc
23:23.20MikmaNickenyfiken: seen that happen :) use /rl
23:23.21OminousNickenyfuken: did someone leave while you were moving them?
23:23.58mjcNickenyfiken: blizzard bug
23:24.21Garoun|Loupanayep, fun bug
23:24.45Garoun|Loupanaif the frame gets set to hidden or destroyed while dragging it gets locked, do what mikma said
23:24.49JJSheetslmao Nickenyf*u*ken
23:25.41GagorianJJSheets: Are you familiar with FB2 code? I tried the snippet I got from cncfanatics to fix single spell updates but it seems broken
23:26.19JJSheetsGagorian, I was to some extent... but not much anymore.
23:26.36GagorianProblem seems that type(Button.Settings) == "table" and type(Button.Settings.Attributes) == "table" and Button.Settings.Attributes.type == "action"
23:26.38NickenyfikenAh, ya thats what i did
23:26.41Gagorianis false for every button
23:28.14Phatrikbah, anyone have any idea who to refresh\flush the internal DNS in Vista\XP? ... my Vista, like many others, suddenly lose all DNS information (can still ping pages) and wont fix itself until reboot ;/
23:28.23CIA-1103rabbit * r32497 10FreeRefills/Core.lua: FreeRefills: Print a usage statement on invalid input.
23:28.24vhaarrPProvost_: there you go
23:28.38JJSheetsgagorian, there's a Button:GetEffectiveAttribute(attr) function now... might change it to Button:GetEffectiveAttribute("action")
23:29.01JJSheetser...
23:29.08Diaosylvanaar: where do you put the PratPlugin? Addons dir or Prat dir?
23:29.08JJSheetsButton:GetEffectiveAttribute('type') == 'action'
23:29.17GagorianYeah I saw that function
23:29.29Diaoor libs
23:29.38GagorianWondered why cncfanatics wouldn't have used it but maybe it's new
23:29.40JJSheetsthe problem I think is that FB2 also uses type spell...
23:29.41GagorianI'll try it out
23:29.50JJSheetsyeah that was one of my contribs to fb2.
23:30.47GagorianWill Button.Settings.Attributes.action then be a non-nil value for sure?
23:30.56JJSheetsif it still fails you'll need to test that 'type' is 'spell', then parse the 'spell' attribute for spell name and rank.
23:31.36GagorianApparently he has actionIDs for the first 120 buttons?
23:31.39JJSheetsGagorian, if it's still using my contribs, then it's probable that you'll have to do my last suggestion.
23:32.04JJSheetsI think cnc is redoing fb2 tho.
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23:34.26CIA-1103rabbit * r32498 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: BigWigs: Magtheridon: frFR update by Feu.
23:34.37DiaoHmm
23:34.48DiaoDoes DreamBuff support any buff addons or does it only work with default buff icons?
23:35.19MikmaDiao: default buff icons
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23:35.45GagorianJJSheets: Hurmm, indeed Button.Settings.Attributes.action seems nil
23:35.57Diaom
23:35.58GagorianBut it went past at least Button:GetEffectiveAttribute('type') == 'action'
23:36.07DiaoIs there any way to modify it to support other addons
23:36.12DiaoI like how it looks but I don't use default buffs
23:36.27MikmaDiao: feel free to add supports in
23:36.57JJSheetsGagorian, weird.  I haven't touched fb2 in at least two weeks.  don't remember it very well, except that it's internals were difficult for me to follow.
23:36.59DiaoTime to learn LUA I guess
23:37.09vhaarrsomeone should create a "Media" addon on the SVN, like Surfaces.
23:37.12JJSheetsif type is action tho, action should be something.
23:37.26JJSheetsoh wait...
23:37.31JJSheetslet me check something...
23:37.46Gagorianself:GetEffectiveAttribute("action")?
23:38.03JJSheetsyeah try that while I'm looking around...
23:38.13MikmaDiao: while you're at it, do it better ;)
23:38.20Diaolol
23:38.28ckknightwhat's :GetEffectiveAttribute?
23:38.35DiaoI understand the LUA when I read it enough to edit minor things.. I just don't know how to write any :(
23:38.40JJSheetspart of flexbar2
23:41.31MikmaDiao: http://www.wowace.com/trac/search?q=dreambuff&wiki=on&changeset=on&ticket=on
23:43.51GagorianJJSheets: Seems to work now
23:44.02JJSheetsfb2?  cool.
23:44.54GagorianAye
23:45.15GagorianOnly thing is that nil makes it clear :P
23:45.23JJSheetsheh, yup.
23:45.41JJSheetscnc will have to clean that up I think.  :)
23:47.06GagorianYeah will bug him about it once he comes online. I believe he has some exams or something
23:47.14GagorianHasn't been online for nearly a week now
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23:48.23GagorianBtw, I was lazy and used your nostromo buttons for testing :P
23:48.43JJSheets:)  I love my nostromo n52
23:51.57AmadeoHave they nerfed Prayer of Mending yet?
23:53.14CIA-1103ckknight * r32499 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
23:53.14CIA-11PitBull - split up raid frames into 8 groups. No options yet.
23:53.14CIA-11- do some major tweaking to the configMode raid faker.
23:53.36CIA-1103gagorian * r32500 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
23:53.36CIA-11DrDamage:
23:53.36CIA-11-Fixed FlexBar2 support. Commented out spell specific update functionality with FlexBar2 until I extort cncfanatics to make some changes
23:54.41JJSheetshyperChipmunk, that's one long ass taxi ride.
23:55.09hyperChipmunklol
23:55.12hyperChipmunkthey haven't come back
23:55.29KemayoOh wow, that's a lot of updated addons.  (I haven't run wow in a week.)
23:55.34ckknightlol, Kemayo
23:57.40GagorianJJSheets: Going to sleep, let me know once you've worked out the text sub cache
23:57.46JJSheetshave.
23:57.56Gagorian!
23:58.01JJSheetscommitting soon :)
23:58.26hyperChipmunkcommit or it didn't happen?
23:58.35GagorianAlright, nice. Won't have nightmares about InfiniBar then!
23:58.38OminousJJSheets: please can you add one bag and no keyring support
23:58.41JJSheetslol
23:58.43KirkburnNon-commital bastard
23:58.57JJSheetsOminous, that's in the feature queue :)
23:59.09hyperChipmunki like one bag and the keyring, myself
23:59.28OminousJJSheets: kk :)
23:59.53KirkburnKemayo, I've going to have a similar experience to you :P Always fun to come back to lots of updates :)

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