IRC log for #wowace on 20070411

00:01.06*** join/#wowace Ominous_ (i=HydraIRC@81.179.73.213)
00:02.47Ominous_havent hat tio,me to try
00:03.10JJSheetshyperChipmunk, workin on it... biggest thing at the moment is the state change slow down...
00:04.22hyperChipmunklemme know if there's something i can help winth
00:04.47JJSheetsgot macros fixed, dreamlayout and zoomed icons working, and profiles fully functional... now to the irritating shit...
00:05.05hyperChipmunk=)
00:05.09JJSheetsguess it's time to dust off my crappy ass druid...
00:05.17hyperChipmunkinitial alpha might be easy enough
00:05.40JJSheetsyeah, I'm talking shit like the memory spike on state change, etc...
00:06.15JJSheetsthe good news is, with profiles, I can easily copy layouts (though I expect some errors with that, come to think of it... :p
00:06.19hyperChipmunki'd settle for the alpha atm =p
00:06.40JJSheetsI'm sure you would... so I guess I'll see if I can't throw ya a bone... :p
00:06.47xlviimmm..
00:06.52xlviii need the help of #wowace
00:06.55JJSheetscourse give an inch, take a mile...
00:06.56xlviii just bit my lip
00:07.03JJSheetssuperglue.
00:07.03xlviihow should i fix it? ;o
00:07.11JJSheetscarefully superglue.
00:07.12kenlyriccut out your teeth
00:07.15JJSheetslol
00:07.34JJSheetsor you could drive, bleeding, to the emergency room.
00:07.40kenlyricif thine eye offends thee...
00:09.43hyperChipmunkJJSheets: with OmniCC, when a cooldown timer gets drawn on a button that's paged, it stays when the paging changes on the new button
00:09.56sbuuhm
00:10.00hyperChipmunkmy instants were showing a 30s cooldown =)
00:10.05sbuis it possible to leave Warbringer O'mrogg alive in shattered halls?
00:10.08chuckgI have a cooldown on deathcoil right now
00:10.10JJSheetsnot sure if that is restricted to OmniCC...
00:10.10chuckgAnd if I page, it doesn't stay.
00:10.11sbubecause of that heroic bugging :/
00:10.15chuckgIf that's what you mean.
00:10.29Lysitheasbu heroic no
00:10.32Lysitheadunno about normal
00:10.46CIA-1103roartindon * r32291 10Aloft/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
00:10.46CIA-11Aloft
00:10.47CIA-11- Renamed AggroIcon to RecentlyDamagedIcon, as that's what it seemed to be doing (was converting old red nameplate text -> icon display)
00:10.47CIA-11- Some extra checks in CastBarText/CastBarTimeText to stop the frame getting stolen by newly created ones
00:10.47CIA-11- Changes to intercept name frame adjustment and health bar coloration
00:11.33hyperChipmunkwell, my traps are on page 4
00:11.37hyperChipmunki drop a trap
00:11.39sbuLysithea: so you have to kill him? :/
00:11.42hyperChipmunkthey all go on 24s cooldown
00:11.45hyperChipmunkgo back to page 1
00:11.57hyperChipmunkand all the buttons that were traps are now showing 24s cooldowns
00:12.02Lysitheasbu yeah, otherwise he'll come running for ya :)
00:12.24JJSheetshyperChipmunk, the buttons still work tho, right?  :P
00:12.34hyperChipmunkyes
00:12.35JJSheetsthen wtf you complaining 'bout?
00:12.41JJSheetshahahahahahahhahahaha
00:12.42hyperChipmunklol
00:12.43sbuLysithea: uhm damn
00:12.45hyperChipmunkfunny
00:12.51harl|WoWoO
00:13.15hyperChipmunkyou know, i COULd let you find these all yourself
00:13.37hyperChipmunki don't HAVE to help
00:13.56JJSheetsnono I appreciate it... maybe not the nut-kickery, but the rest is cool.
00:13.59JJSheets:)
00:14.14NightHawkTheSanedont let him fool you, he actually enjoys the nut-kickery
00:14.31harl|WoWwhat about surgery then
00:14.43harl|WoWanything in mind ?
00:15.18hyperChipmunkhowever, were i you, i'd be grateful that someone's interested enough to use your addon in all its buggy crappiness in full-stress conditions, and is capable of giving you insightful feedback from a programmer's perspective
00:15.49TainYou should appreciate being kicked in the nuts.
00:15.49hyperChipmunkbut if you prefer the nut-kicking, i can do that too
00:15.57JJSheetslol
00:16.00hyperChipmunkhehe
00:20.31JJSheetsis there a decent way to copy an object, or am I going to have to create my own method to do so?
00:21.07hyperChipmunkJJSheets: the yellow border around active button casts is not showing
00:21.09kergothding 70, first time :)
00:21.12hyperChipmunkdeep table copy?
00:21.14hyperChipmunkgratz kerg
00:21.23hyperChipmunkthere's dozens of deep copy functions around
00:21.42JJSheetsyeah, I'll probably have to do something like that... but I was hoping AceOO had one built in. :p
00:21.52ckknightgrats, kergoth
00:22.05JJSheetsgratz, kergoth
00:22.05hyperChipmunk~congratulate kergoth
00:22.08purlACTION congratulates kergoth on being a new owner of a $500 brick.
00:22.16hyperChipmunkwoo hoo
00:22.17ckknightJJSheets: there's no builtin :Clone function, but feel free to write one yourself.
00:22.21kergoth:)
00:22.28NightHawkTheSanelol, grats kergoth
00:22.35NightHawkTheSanenow start working on your epic flyer :P
00:22.51kergothyeah... i have a crapload of quests to do for moneys
00:25.16JoshBorkeyay for new quests!
00:26.05hyperChipmunkJJSheets: besides abilities being slow to activate, sometimes it doesn't happen at all
00:27.29chuckg<kergoth> ding 70, first time
00:27.38chuckgWas I the only one waiting for ckknight to say "ding 20 first time"?
00:27.39chuckg=D
00:27.40hyperChipmunkand clarification on the previous, the active cast isn't being bordered on abilities that are pending (e.g. "Next Melee") or channeling
00:29.38JJSheetshyperChipmunk, k
00:29.38ckknightchuckg: lol, I just dinged 20
00:29.38ckknighton my draenei
00:29.39chuckgI'm a clairvoyant.
00:29.39kergothhah
00:29.39hyperChipmunkalso, the border usually flashes on the autoshot button, but it's solid-on for your mod; doesn't matter much to me, but just an additional detail that might help
00:30.20hyperChipmunkthe green border thing is wicked cool though =)
00:30.27chuckgIs there a list of which layouts are available for pitbull yet?
00:30.33chuckgOr should I go about making one?
00:30.42JJSheetshyperChipmunk, thank cncfanatics for buff highlighting :)
00:30.47hyperChipmunkok this is strange
00:30.52hyperChipmunknow i drop a trap
00:30.58hyperChipmunkand only that trap goes on cooldown
00:31.04JJSheetsheh
00:31.05hyperChipmunklol
00:31.35JJSheetsInfiniBar lets you hax your traps.                                                                                                            (Borat style NOT)
00:32.11hyperChipmunknot quite
00:32.39hyperChipmunkhehe
00:32.55JJSheetswell, this is definitely funky... I see what you guys mean by the shapeshift change is too slow...
00:33.17JJSheetsI wonder what shit I have taking up that memory space...
00:33.39hyperChipmunkhm, for stuff with cast time, the yellow border doesn't show, either
00:33.44ckknightchuckg: Industrial, ABF, and Buu
00:34.24JJSheetshyperChipmunk, as in, say, Immolate on a Warlock isn't showing the casting border?
00:35.19*** join/#wowace Iceroth_ (n=tatexi@a81-197-105-197.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
00:35.34kergothokay, so whats best money wise wrt to farming?  motes/primals i've heard, anything else?  was thinking maybe some cobra scales for those nice leg armor kits
00:35.48OminousJJSheets: it works but cos i was doing "BORDER" and not nil, "BORDER"
00:36.24CIA-1103ckknight * r32292 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added aggrocolor, difficultycolor, manacolor, and combatcolor to modifiers.
00:36.24hyperChipmunksteady shot on a hunter (1.5s cast), volley on a hunter (channeled offensive), mend pet on a hunter (channeled beneficial), raptor strike on a hunter (next melee)
00:36.24JJSheetsOminous, there ya go.
00:36.24JJSheetshyperChipmunk, k, I know where to look for that one now...
00:37.21hyperChipmunkout-of-range coloring when page switches acts like the cooldown numbers
00:37.27JJSheetsheh
00:37.31hyperChipmunkmy Track Giants is out of range!
00:38.49cladhaireckknight: I would appreciate if you would actually credit Vika in there at some point
00:38.52cladhaireconsidering that's hit work.
00:38.54cladhaires/hit/his/
00:39.15TainCredit for work contributed is overrated.
00:39.22JJSheetsokay... all of the highlight and border shit I'm going to have to redo, it's causing the memory spikes and the cooldown/event/etc. idiocy.
00:39.42hyperChipmunk=)
00:39.45JJSheetsfirst I must disable profile switching and fix alpha on load
00:40.03JJSheetsthen commit so you get something to gnaw on for a bit.
00:40.30hyperChipmunkfunny how those "i dunno if this is really important, but..." ones pan out sometime
00:40.38JJSheetsheh
00:41.11hyperChipmunki almost didn't mention it because i knew you had a bunch on your plate, and it was relatively minor
00:41.46JJSheetsnono, always mention bugs, I can always just write them down if they're not terrible... such as the backpack thingy.
00:42.19Ominousgod damm blizzard for protecting ReplaceEnchant()
00:42.29JJSheetsheheheh
00:43.03hyperChipmunki know; it just depends on the person you're reporting for.  someone else might as easily get overwhelmed
00:44.42JJSheetsso by alpha do you mean hiding completely, or have you set a bar to be at alpha 0.9 when shown and that isn't happening?
00:44.53chuckgThanks ck.
00:45.02chuckgI'll add oUF in the next few days.
00:46.05sbuhmm last boss shattered halls heroic
00:46.09hyperChipmunkall my bars are 1.0 on every reload/game enter/world load
00:46.09sbusomething heroic-only? :o
00:46.14JJSheetsk
00:46.18sbunew abilities/...?
00:46.27hyperChipmunkeven though i have fade-in set to something below 1.0
00:46.33Arrowmasterso i actually downloaded deadlybossmods because i was curious if the CHAT_MSG_ADDON handler checked where the message came from and wow that coding is soo bad, its worse than ctra
00:46.42hyperChipmunkheh
00:46.47hyperChipmunkdeadlybossmods is legendary
00:46.51JJSheetsare you hiding any or are they all set to show always?
00:47.29Arrowmasterthe guy that writes it really needs to fucking learn to code and learn the blizzard api
00:47.33hyperChipmunkone is all-hidden (best i can, since you don't actually give me a hide option, so it's 0 alpha always), others are variously 0.2, 0.5, or 0.9
00:47.53hyperChipmunkoh
00:47.57Lysitheasbu this thread migth help http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=10358
00:47.58hyperChipmunkall are always-show
00:48.01JJSheetsk
00:48.15Arrowmaster'if UnitClass("player") == DBM_WARRIOR then' classic
00:48.28hyperChipmunki toggle it to Show in Combat and then back to always to get them to get where i want them
00:48.52Ominousis anything wrong with UnitCastingInfo("player"):find(button.PoisonName)?
00:48.59hyperChipmunka never show would be good; there's some buttons that i just want so i can assign hotkeys and never actually see
00:49.01cladhaireArrowmaster: thats cleaner than if select(UnitClass("player")) == "WARRIOR" then
00:49.08hyperChipmunki made a hiddenbar for stuff like that
00:49.10cladhairebut lessreliable =)
00:49.20hyperChipmunkand i'm gonna end up just moving it off the screen
00:49.35hyperChipmunkbut a better option would to be able to :Hide() it
00:49.46hyperChipmunkactually, that's probably what i'm going to do, with visor
00:50.49hyperChipmunkyay
00:51.08hyperChipmunkgood for macros
00:51.16Chompersdamn arena
00:51.18hyperChipmunki really don't need a button for /targetlasttarget
00:51.25Chompersi can never get a rating higher than 1500 :<
00:51.48hyperChipmunkbut it has to be a macro now, since they disabled the script function
00:51.57JJSheetslol
00:52.08hyperChipmunkso i need the button so i can have a hotkey
00:52.23hyperChipmunkbut i'll never use it with the mouse
00:52.37hyperChipmunkincludes my target=mouseover stuff =)
00:52.43Arrowmasterafaik theres a default hotkey for targetlasttarget
00:52.47hyperChipmunkwhich wouldn't even make sense clicking it
00:52.52hyperChipmunklast hostile
00:52.58Arrowmasteroh
00:53.09hyperChipmunkoh, they did add a last target
00:53.10hyperChipmunkgood deal
00:53.16hyperChipmunkthx =)
00:53.32JJSheetsk, I have fading in fixed, now to add Hide Always.
00:54.19CIA-1103ckknight * r32293 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
00:54.19CIA-11DogTag-1.0 - modifiers are no longer run on blank strings.
00:54.19CIA-11Should simplify things.
00:54.21JJSheetswell... sorta... hmmm... not quite fixed... :)
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00:55.28Mikmaanyone remembers the url for svn revision history?
00:55.36hyperChipmunkprior to 2.0, there was a target last hostile with a keybind, and a TargetLastTarget() function that didn't show up in the keybindings unless you made one yourself
00:55.43CIA-1103ckknight * r32294 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix comment.
00:55.50hyperChipmunkwowace.com/trac?
00:55.56Mikmathanks
00:56.37hyperChipmunkprobably
00:56.46JJSheets~whalenuke hyperChipmunk
00:56.48purlACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around hyperChipmunk with his mind powers
00:57.10hyperChipmunkthat's like the 6th time you've nuked me
00:57.23hyperChipmunki've developed an immunity to the radiation
00:57.27JJSheetsyeah, well... you're right...
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00:58.10JoshBorke~whalebomb hyperChipmunk
00:58.12purlACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at hyperChipmunk and hides.
00:59.57CIA-1103ominous 07Ominous * r32295 10PoisonMenu/PoisonMenu/Core.lua: PoisonMenu: fixes, ready for trunk now
01:00.24Ominousyay
01:00.36Ominoushows the zone bug cmming along
01:01.44JJSheetsI believe it's fixed but I need to test it as well.
01:03.40CIA-1103ominous * r32296 10PoisonMenu/: PoisonMenu: Created folder remotley
01:05.12JJSheetsokay... NOW I add hide always option...
01:05.37hyperChipmunk=)
01:08.25Mikmaanyone interested on writing me a small addon? :D addon that prevents TAB from selecting opposite faction if player don't have pvp on
01:08.43JJSheetsgood luck
01:08.53NightHawkTheSanethats not possible, is it?
01:09.01JJSheetsI don't think so...
01:09.13Mikmahttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/3492/tabpetremover/
01:09.24JoshBorkeMikma: no :-P
01:09.29Mikmait's possible for pets, not sure about ithers
01:09.36JoshBorkecan you?
01:09.55MikmaJoshBorke: if i could code i would
01:10.24JoshBorkeno, i mean can you make an addon that does that?
01:10.56Mikmai repeat my last words :O
01:11.24JoshBorkeis it POSSIBLE to make an addon that does that?
01:11.27JoshBorkesheesh
01:11.29Mikmai don't know
01:11.46CIA-1103ominous * r32297 10PoisonMenu/: PoisonMenu: im a tard
01:11.47JoshBorkenot EVERYTHING is about YOU mikma :-P
01:11.54Mikmait's possible for pets, i don't know is it possible for players
01:12.06MikmaJoshBorke: yes it is, you are wrong now nah nah
01:12.21CIA-1103ominous * r32298 10PoisonMenu/: PoisonMenu: copy to trunk
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01:12.42Eternally777Did SSC get nerfed?
01:12.45Eternally777Anyone know?
01:13.24chuckgIn what way?
01:13.35chuckgI'm also not aware of any changes till 2.1.0
01:13.48Eternally777Our trash seems to be hitting lighter
01:14.02chuckgLet me know if respawn timers changed.
01:14.23chuckgDoing leotheras attempts with all that trash is the purest strain of aids.
01:14.24Mikmahttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/1036/pvptarget/
01:16.11chuckgWhat's going in with the SVN zipping when there's stuff like: PitBull-r32275.1.zip, PitBull-r32275.2.zip and then PitBull-r32275.zip ?
01:16.41CIA-1103ominous * r32299 10PoisonMenu/ (Core(2)no fubar.lua PoisonMenu.toc): PoisonMenu: updated toc and deleted old file
01:16.56Ominouschuckg: thats when the externals arte updated
01:17.06chuckgAhh. Thanks.
01:17.08MikmaOminous: nice file, Core(2)no :)
01:17.13Ominousyea
01:17.29Ominousthat was my version using fubar when i forgot the minimap icon needed to be secure
01:17.45Ominousand the file was "Core(2)no fubar.lua" tho :P
01:18.41Mikmaomagad
01:19.19JJSheetsI knew there was one other thing I needed to test... zone change hell...
01:21.17sbumehhh
01:21.41sbublade dance sucks
01:27.21CIA-1103roartindon * r32300 10Aloft/ (9 files in 3 dirs):
01:27.21CIA-11Aloft
01:27.21CIA-11- Enabled combo points for druids
01:27.21CIA-11- Separated HealthBar into a different module
01:27.21CIA-11- Added SharedMedia_SetGlobal events again
01:28.58CIA-1103jjsheets * r32301 10InfiniBar/ (IB_Core.lua IB_Standard.lua):
01:28.58CIA-11InfiniBar - Added Zoomed and DreamLayout styles, configurable per bar. Use with
01:28.58CIA-11cyCircled sparingly or not at all. Fixed Macro weirdness. Fixed FadeIn/Out
01:28.58CIA-11weirdness. Hopefully Fixed Hearth/Portal Texture funkage. Added Profiles, but
01:28.58CIA-11disabled the ability to mess with them until I get profiles copying correctly.
01:29.21JJSheetsOkay... I'm off to get dinner.  I will be back soon.
01:29.32JJSheetssave up them bug reports.  :P
01:34.31rubikthere an option in Aloft to disable "nameplate enabled/disabled" notice on zoning?
01:34.34ArrowmasterMikma: that tabpetremover does not work in 2.0
01:35.48MikmaArrowmaster: ready to put your left nut as a bet?
01:36.56Arrowmastercheck the code it just calls a Target*Enemy() function if it find the target to be a pet
01:37.11Arrowmasterthe target functions are now protected
01:37.53Arrowmasterand it hasnt had an update or even a comment posted since 2.0
01:39.01Mikmanoes. they are spoiling all the fun there is
01:39.28CIA-1103roartindon * r32302 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Temporary fix for cast bar display problems.
01:42.09kergothcombo points in aloft act funny since he cant distinguish betwee multiple mobs iwth the same name
01:42.18kergothfighting one mob and its putting combo points on one 40 yards away
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01:43.37HealthJoshBorke: Life feels complete with the pretty highlight!
01:44.02JoshBorkeHealth: glad you got it working for yourself
01:44.27HealthYeah, so you don't have a stupid retarded stalker! :D
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01:45.12JoshBorkeit's ok, i don't pay enought attention to be stalked
01:45.17HealthTime for some sleep before work in 4 hours ><
01:45.40Healthnn!
01:45.46JoshBorkehealth: nn
01:47.32Eternally777chuckg: it looks like time between dots has been extended
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01:47.58chuckgInteresting.
01:49.19chuckgWhich mobs are you talking about that do dots?
01:49.30chuckgNothing before hydross does any, that I remember.
01:49.45chuckgSo you must be referring to ones immediately following?
01:52.21ZealotOnAStickThe rays have a little nature debuff dot.
01:52.29ZealotOnAStickNature damage every 0 seconds.
01:52.35ZealotOnAStickthat lasts like 5 or 6
01:52.56Ominoushow much memory does pitbull_combatfader use
01:53.12ZealotOnAStickNow, what bites ass, are the draenei mobs on the way to Tidewalker that have that 7.5kish a tick poison dot.
01:53.24CIA-1103ckknight * r32303 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
01:53.24CIA-11DogTag-1.0 - update everything on party change, update target/focus/mouseover/pet on the right events.
01:53.24CIA-11- make event registry simpler.
01:55.26ZealotOnAStickAnd some priest just killed themselves dispelling me when I reflected UA, Corruption, and Agony on myself.
01:55.59NightHawkTheSanethats what you get for helping a warlock
01:56.53CIA-1103ckknight * r32304 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - manacolor updates on UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER
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02:03.37ckknightalright, DogTag should be a lot more reliable now
02:03.40ckknighttheoretically.
02:04.34cladhaireckknight: did you get my message?
02:04.51ckknightabout ABF?
02:05.00cladhaireno, about DogTags
02:05.04cladhaireand credting Vika
02:05.08cladhairecause its his work
02:05.11ckknightoh
02:05.27ckknightI stole the idea cause I liked it in agUF :-P
02:05.42cladhaireokay
02:05.46cladhairewell its Vika's
02:05.50ckknightbut expanded on it
02:05.51cladhaireand i would appreciate it being credited to him.
02:05.56ckknightand I didn't steal any code
02:06.03cladhaireare you seriously going to be like this?
02:06.05hyperChipmunkyou did call it WatchdogTags
02:06.11cladhaireyou didn't steal a stick of code from Turan
02:06.12cladhairebut you credit him.
02:06.16ckknightand then renamed it
02:06.22ckknightI'm going to credit Vika, don't worry
02:06.36cladhairethat's all i asked, and that's all you needed to say,.
02:06.37cladhairethanks.
02:08.37ckknightI don't like being bullied into doing something. It's not really like Linus Torvalds credits Dennis Ritchie in all his works...
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02:08.58ckknightI'll give credit cause it's a good idea that I didn't think up, but I don't want to be bullied into doing it
02:09.00cladhairebullies.
02:09.02cladhairebullied.
02:09.03cladhairei asked you
02:09.07cladhaireall i did was ask you.
02:09.46cladhaireand are you kidding me?  Linus has no reason to credit Ritchie.
02:09.53cladhaireDogTags is 100% conceptually fron WatchDog
02:09.56cladhairewhether you like it or not.
02:10.17chuckgI creit every web page I make to Al Gore.
02:10.17ckknightand is not Linux based on the idea of the Unix kernel?
02:10.24cladhaireI was asking you to credit the original author
02:10.39ckknightDennis Ritchie is the original author of Unix (along with other guys of course)
02:10.44ckknightand Linux is a lot like Unix
02:10.53cladhairewhy are you being a dick about this?.
02:10.54cladhairehrm>
02:10.55ckknightjust like DogTag is a lot like WatchdogTags
02:10.56cladhairewhats the point?
02:11.05hyperChipmunkeveryone knows where unix came from
02:11.06ckknightthe point is I see the same relation
02:11.09cladhairejust to piss me off, or some other personal crusade
02:11.44ckknightno need to get so defensive
02:11.50cladhaireno need to be so offensive
02:11.52cladhairei asked you a simple questin
02:11.57cladhairei didn't come here for a fucking fight
02:12.01cladhaireand its always a god damned fight with you
02:12.24ckknightthat's not true
02:12.26cladhaireI ask a question, you give an answer.. this is how typical conversations go, and dialogue ensues.
02:12.52ckknighton that note, I'm going to get back to what I was doing before
02:13.03cladhaireyeah have fun with that.
02:15.04hyperChipmunkok guys, it's safe to come out now
02:15.07hyperChipmunki think they're done
02:15.53CIA-1103trh * r32305 10VanasKoS/modules/DistributedTracker.lua: VanasKoS: fix to distributed tracking (nil in a format string)
02:17.01chuckgI finished my popcorn.
02:17.12cladhairemmm popcorn
02:17.19NightHawkTheSanei could totally go for some popcorn
02:17.55cladhairei have some.. would you like half a bag?
02:17.56NightHawkTheSanemovie theatre popcorn especially
02:18.04JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: did C and assembly get together and make unix?  cause i don't know where unix came from
02:18.53ckknightbtw, interesting lecture: http://youtube.com/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg
02:18.58ckknighttotally unrelated
02:19.05cladhaireJoshBorke: http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ch02s01.html
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02:29.42CIA-1103trh * r32306 10FuBar_VanasKoSFu/ (. FuBar_VanasKoSFu.toc VanasKoSFu.lua): FuBar_VanasKoSFu: changed the fubar plugin to be standalone instead of integrated due to stupid users^W... err frequent requests
02:29.58NightHawkTheSanetrh: lol
02:32.41CIA-1103trh * r32307 10VanasKoS/ (4 files in 3 dirs): VanasKoS: removed fubar plugin as it's a standalone plugin now, don't gather level information if it isn't available, show never seen entries after seen entires
02:32.44trhNightHawkTheSane: its true ;)
02:33.17NightHawkTheSanetrh: oh, no doubt. stupid users are always a problem :P
02:33.50trhya.. you usually try to make it stupid proof, but they are so damn creative
02:34.26NightHawkTheSane"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
02:34.39trhlol
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02:36.46Veritas_Hiyas
02:41.44ChompersAl Gore
02:41.52Chompershe has riden the mighty moon worm
02:42.15Veritas_I'm hoping to do a simple AddOn
02:42.26Veritas_I've opted for a new project that is much simplier then my original idea
02:42.51Veritas_it will require no dialogs of any sort, I just want to store a variable, and increment based on the input of a keybind
02:43.31GngskChompers, moon sapphires?
02:45.12Chompersuhm
02:45.31Garoun|Loupanapitbull, <3 different size option for Buff/debuff auras
02:45.49Chompersi was just quoting futurama
02:48.06GngskChompers, yeah that's the reward for finding the cure for global warming
02:48.41Chompersyou're a better fan than i am :)
02:49.41GngskI guess, I don't consider myself a fan. I've just seen every episode multiple times.
02:50.19trhin some way i'd describe a fan like that
02:50.29trhit's not as hardcore as collecting everything of it
02:50.31NightHawkTheSanethats what I'd call a fan.
02:50.35trhbut still
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02:55.07trhVeritas_: theres a addon that counts the number of jumps you do, i don't remember the name, but i think you should start with that one
02:55.36ckknightlocal jumps = 0; hooksecurefunc("Jump", function() jumps = jumps + 1 end)
02:55.37ckknightdone.
02:55.55trhoh.. didn't thought it'd be that easy ;)
02:56.22ckknightactually it's now JumpOrAscend or something
02:57.14Garoun|Loupanahey ck, got a weird one for you
02:57.23ckknightshoot
02:57.30ckknighttell it to me now, I gotta go soon
02:57.31Garoun|Loupanaany way to flipflow buff/debuff rows if your target is friend or foe?
02:57.44ckknightflipflow is not a verb.
02:57.51Garoun|Loupanafor foe it's nice not having the flipflop sorry
02:58.03Garoun|Loupanaso if hostiel debuffs are on top, otherwise buffs
02:58.07vodrinflipflop is the best word evar
02:58.08Garoun|Loupanahostile even
02:58.14ckknighthrm
02:58.17ckknightmaybe.
02:58.18ckknightdunno
02:58.24ckknightput it on the wishlist
02:58.25Garoun|Loupanajust noticed it doing a run :)
02:58.29Garoun|Loupanawill do
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03:02.35CIA-1103roartindon * r32308 10Aloft/ (15 files in 2 dirs):
03:02.35CIA-11Aloft
03:02.35CIA-11- Completed modularization of core features.
03:02.35CIA-11- Defaults/Options code now tiny and merged into main Aloft.lua file
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03:15.19hyperChipmunkvelkom back
03:15.49JJSheetsany more to add to the list of doom?
03:16.23hyperChipmunkitems with charges instead of stacks show stack number (1) instead of number of remaining charges
03:16.34hyperChipmunkno pet bar
03:16.57ZealotOnAStick~seen Funkeh`
03:17.21purlfunkeh` is currently on #wowi-lounge (10h 7m 1s) #wowace (10h 7m 1s). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 5h 30m 5s, last said: 'alright'.
03:17.21JJSheetspet bar is on the list, item charges is now added but not as important as fixing the memory spike.  :p
03:17.30hyperChipmunkyea
03:17.53hyperChipmunkthat's all i can think of
03:17.55hyperChipmunkatm
03:18.04JJSheets:)
03:18.12hyperChipmunkobviously, the memspike is #1 priority
03:18.44Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick ?
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03:20.16ZealotOnAStickMorogrim Tidewalker timers seem to be fairly off.
03:20.23ZealotOnAStickPlaying with him now, will get a transcript or two.
03:20.27Funkeh`yeah i know
03:20.50Funkeh`was doing him today, but haven't had the time to sit down and do anything wiht it yet
03:21.19ZealotOnASticktransscript useful/wanted them or not?
03:21.19Funkeh`if you can provide me with some times ill modify it or you can modify it yourself
03:21.24Funkeh`nah
03:21.35JJSheetsI also now have to fix some idiocy with macros since the change to them...
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03:26.04Funkeh`i think its jsut some timers need reduced, most likely the murloc one if i remember
03:26.39Funkeh`so tired :p i hate farming tailoring stuff so much primal fire...
03:26.56ZealotOnAStickI think it's Murlocs every 40 graves every 30, or something like that, but not sure.  I've got a transcript or two and Fraps, so I'll figure it out later.
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03:28.58Heriohttp://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/witchdoctor
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03:34.27JJSheetsI think I know why the spike is happening... :p
03:34.47hyperChipmunkis it fixable?
03:35.03JJSheetsIf its what I think it is, then yes, and easily...
03:35.05hyperChipmunkor is it because you're a retard
03:35.15hyperChipmunkbecause i don't think you can fix that
03:35.19JJSheetswell, sorta both... :p
03:35.26JJSheetsdee dee dee!
03:35.58kergothhmm, what's a good spot to grind scryers rep?
03:36.17CIA-1103roartindon * r32309 10Aloft/CoreModules/CastBarOverlay.lua: Aloft: CastBarOverlay - some changes so that 'expired' spells don't appear all dark with the overlay
03:36.23ZealotOnAStickany of the manaforges in netherstorm.
03:38.28kergothk
03:38.30kergoththanks
03:39.53chuckgTerrible.
03:40.00chuckgSMV, Black Temple.
03:40.04chuckgThe southern "wing".
03:40.13chuckgThe mobs are easier, and the droprate "feels" higher.
03:40.24chuckgThey're also not clustered, so it's never more than 1-2 mobs at a single time.
03:40.50chuckgI did 0/21k -> 21/21 in one night.
03:41.03chuckgOne long, long, night. But one night none the less.
03:41.52Veritas_http://www.itrango.com/vslua/index.html
03:46.18CIA-1103roartindon * r32310 10Aloft/CoreModules/HealthBar.lua: Aloft: HealthBar - fixed changing width/height not updating immediately
03:47.06kergothso who broke instanceloot?
03:47.18JJSheetsnot me... I haven't touched it.  :p
03:47.20kergothclicking on an item thats [itemid] in red doesnt update the text anymore
03:47.26kergothit just stays that way
03:47.48kergothso you cant mouseover to see the links on any of those, have to click on them
03:48.18kergothArrowmaster: ping
03:49.08ZealotOnAStickFunkeh` (or anyone else with first-hand experience) what precisely does Morogrim's enrage do?
03:49.44Funkeh`i have no idea
03:49.51Funkeh`i was originally told he enrages
03:49.53Funkeh`then not
03:50.00Funkeh`then i was told its when he summons the grobules
03:50.04Funkeh`then im told thats at 25%
03:50.09Funkeh`im lost tbh
03:50.46Veritas_where can i find the MSDN of LUA ?
03:50.47CodayusI was told that his enrage is bugged, and isn't currently doing anything.  (NO first hand knowledge though.)
03:50.47Funkeh`if you have any info please fill me in :p
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03:51.14hyperChipmunkmsdn of lua?
03:51.37Veritas_you know when you buy Visual Studio
03:51.43Veritas_you get like 4 MSDN CD's
03:51.51JJSheetsno such thing...
03:51.59Veritas_maybe its called something else
03:52.05Veritas_I was pretty sure it was called MSDN
03:52.26Veritas_basically it had info on everything
03:52.31JJSheetsuh no... no msdn of lua, since Microsoft has nothing to do with lua.
03:52.39NightHawkTheSaneim a little baffled why lua would be associated with 'microsoft developer network'
03:52.41Veritas_Oh i know that
03:52.41JJSheetsperhaps you're looking for lua.org?
03:52.46Veritas_bah
03:52.55Veritas_i wasnt talking literally
03:52.59JJSheetsluawiki.org or somesuch?
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03:53.56Veritas_allow me to put that sentance into context for you....another example of such a phrase would be...
03:54.22Gngskwhere's the manpage for lua?
03:54.34Veritas_heh
03:54.40Veritas_yea that will suffice
03:54.50Codayushttp://www.lua.org/pil/
03:54.57CodayusMight be SORT of what you're thinking of.
03:55.01Veritas_cept i want someone to grep out everything i dont need
03:55.07CodayusA good place to start, even if you aren't.
03:55.18Codayuser...even if it isn't, I meant to say.
03:55.27Veritas_hmm
03:55.33Codayus(Or, might be too basic.  <shrug>)
03:55.36Veritas_I think i was looking at something else
03:55.37hyperChipmunki've never ordered microsoft visual studio
03:55.45Veritas_neither have i
03:55.46hyperChipmunkit doesn't work on linux
03:55.57Veritas_im sure it could
03:56.03Veritas_'but why would you want to do that ?
03:56.33Veritas_Does WoW even run decently on linux, i never bothered to load it up in WINE and find out
03:56.35JJSheetslol hyperChipmunk
03:56.46hyperChipmunksame reason you would look for info on lua from msdn, i suppose
03:56.52hyperChipmunkruns better than it did on windows
03:56.58JJSheetsbwahaahhahaha
03:56.59Veritas_does it?
03:57.03hyperChipmunkyea
03:57.07Veritas_hmm, I'm dual-booting debian
03:57.10Veritas_i might wanna check that out
03:57.33hyperChipmunkcxoffice 6 has official support for it even
03:57.35Veritas_you use KDE or Gnome ?
03:57.40Veritas_or...Flux :P
03:57.48hyperChipmunke17
03:57.51NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
03:58.05Veritas_Fluxbox looks nice, but i prefer KDE
03:58.22NightHawkTheSanekde bogged down my poor g3 too much.
03:59.54Veritas_I'd have to reinstall wow on ext3 thou wouldnt i?
04:00.23Veritas_cuz you cant write to NTFS from *nix afaik..unless im thinking of something else
04:02.28hyperChipmunkyou only need write access to wtf and interface
04:02.33hyperChipmunkand technically not even interface
04:02.44hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
04:02.54hyperChipmunkif you want logs, that is
04:03.02NightHawkTheSaneAnd screenshots?
04:03.11hyperChipmunkthat too =)
04:03.20NightHawkTheSaneand cache?
04:03.25chuckgAnd WDB.
04:03.26chuckgHaha.
04:03.29hyperChipmunk=D
04:03.33NightHawkTheSane:D
04:03.40hyperChipmunkfine, re-install it
04:03.42chuckgI think it's safe to say, you should probably just give write to the whole folder eh? :)
04:06.40Veritas_i hate learning new languages
04:07.09chuckgThat's one of the most interesting things to me.
04:07.23chuckgThe whole concept of everything being a pointer in LUA still amazes me.
04:07.39Veritas_its just the beginning part that sucks, once i got a decent handle on it, expanding it is easy enough
04:07.40NightHawkTheSaneI like learnig new languages, i just hate trudging through all the syntantic bits first.
04:07.48NightHawkTheSanesyntactic*
04:07.53hyperChipmunklua is <3
04:08.03chuckgI spent about 2 hours reading about Python and gave up.
04:08.08chuckgIt reminded me of all the reasons I hated Java.
04:08.25JJSheetslmao I coded some mods for civ 4 then wanted to slit my wrists.
04:08.30JJSheetsciv 4 uses python.
04:08.40hyperChipmunkyou know whose wrists I want to slit?
04:08.46chuckgPython I don't get the hype.
04:08.55hyperChipmunkJJSheets, because he hasn't committed this "easy" fix for my memspikes
04:09.02chuckgI'd rather work in shell scripting than Python.
04:09.13JJSheetswow... suddenly I feel the urge to not commit this thing I think fixes the mem spikes...
04:09.20JJSheetsimagine that... :p
04:09.42NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i keep wanting to learn python, but I always get stuck in "you know, i could probably just do it easier in perl anyway"
04:09.50chuckg^ yep.
04:09.57JJSheetsah god... perl... ew.
04:10.09JJSheetsbetter than python, but not by much in my book.
04:10.12CIA-1103roartindon * r32311 10Aloft/CoreModules/CastBarOverlay.lua: Aloft: CastBarOverlay: Cleaned up some code/comments. still seems to have that single pixel error...
04:10.23NightHawkTheSaneor php, but i really dont like php that much. I just know it reasonably well
04:11.42chuckgOh that's noather one.
04:11.46chuckgPHP vs Ruby ON rails.
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04:12.17CIA-1103jjsheets * r32312 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - Fix for macro tooltips and cooldowns not quite working correctly. Possible fix for lag issues and some highlight/overlay issues.
04:12.23JJSheetshyperChipmunk, Love me.
04:12.29JJSheetsI hope... :p
04:12.47Tedeumquestion for the masses.
04:12.57NightHawkTheSanei really ought to learn ruby/rails
04:13.19Tedeumanyone come across an equipcompare like mod allowing comparison between not only equipped items but also saved set items from closetgnome or itemrack?
04:17.07NightHawkTheSane~whalenuke remains of JJSheets
04:17.12purlACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around remains of JJSheets with his mind powers
04:17.12CIA-1103roartindon * r32313 10Aloft/Modules/RecentlyDamagedIcon.lua: Aloft: RecentlyDamagedIcon - fixes the logic that caused icons to display on all visible frames when initially enabled
04:17.35hyperChipmunkJJSheets: just a 2k spike now, and only a really short stutter
04:17.38NightHawkTheSaneHm, guess i forgot a definite article
04:17.51JJSheetshyperChipmunk, tolerable, or do you think I should do better?
04:18.08hyperChipmunki can tolerate it
04:18.18hyperChipmunkbut you should do better if you can
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04:18.26hyperChipmunkbut for now, it's okay
04:18.52hyperChipmunkthe cooldown thingy still happen
04:19.09JJSheetsdangit...
04:19.29JJSheetson stance change long cooldowns stick around?
04:19.37hyperChipmunkpage change
04:19.40hyperChipmunkdunno about stance
04:19.48JJSheetssame thing essentially..
04:19.50JJSheetsk
04:20.04hyperChipmunkand no yellow borders still
04:20.39JJSheetsyeah... yellow borders take more work... how about disbaling noncombat buttons in combat?
04:22.03CIA-1103jjsheets * r32314 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - Potential fix for cooldowns not going away on state changes.
04:22.06JJSheetsTest.
04:22.07hyperChipmunkenabling on combat event still a bit slow
04:22.16hyperChipmunkno disabling on in-combat at all
04:22.21JJSheetsk
04:24.25hyperChipmunknewp
04:24.38JJSheetsdefine newp.
04:24.43JJSheets>.<
04:24.51hyperChipmunkno change at all
04:24.55JJSheetsbah
04:25.06hyperChipmunk=*( sorry
04:26.57JJSheetsno errors tho?
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04:27.36CIA-1103namsar * r32315 10FuBar_GarbageFu/GarbageFu_Vendor.lua: FuBar_GarbageFu: Fixed ItemSync price checking. Line 123.
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04:28.09JJSheetsckknight, question about profiles if you have time.
04:29.08JJSheetsI have a profile containing a table containing AceOO objects... I Copy from that profile into another profile... Do I need to manually deserialize and reserialize them?
04:31.51hyperChipmunkno errors
04:31.51Arrowmasterkergoth: pong
04:31.52harldephinplease write an addon i can control other people with? kthx.
04:31.52xyui just want an addon that'll play my char for me.  is that so much to ask ? :D
04:32.00JJSheetsapparently so.  thus secure headers.
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04:32.13Arrowmasterkergoth: nothing i touched should have any effect on that
04:32.55CIA-1103funkydude * r32317 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua:
04:32.55CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Morogrim:
04:32.55CIA-11- removed enrage timer
04:32.56CIA-11- tweaked grave/murloc timer
04:33.14xyusometimes when i log in it doesn't say my level on the character select.  just shows a "..."  wonder why that is.
04:33.14Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: try that
04:33.47ZealotOnAStickWill try it tomorrow night probably.
04:34.07ZealotOnAStickWe're done for the night, and I'm rather annoyed.
04:34.24ZealotOnAStickis there any confirmation on the enrage one way or the other?
04:34.34Fisker-JJSheets
04:34.39JJSheetsyes?
04:34.41Fisker-screeenshots or it didn't happen
04:34.54Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: =i saw a movie and there seems to be no enrage
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04:35.08JJSheetsscreenshots of what?  o.O
04:35.09pomkethis might be a bit of an odd question..
04:35.27Fisker-infinibar
04:35.53JJSheetsyeah I'll get right on that... or I could actually work on the bugs and features.
04:35.58chuckgThere is no enrage on Morograim.
04:36.05pomkebut is there, or would it be possible to create, a 'meta guild' addon? that basically does all the stuff you have in a guild, channels, ranks etc.. but without actually having a guild?
04:36.06ZealotOnAStickThanks, though, Funky.  Will give it a try tomorrow and let you know how the timers are.
04:36.45Fisker-QQ JJSheets :(
04:36.57JJSheetsdownload it and suffer like the rest of us.
04:37.09Fisker-i'll stick to bartender
04:37.56JJSheetstbh screenshots of a bar mod aren't all that damn impressive.
04:38.07Arrowmasterkergoth: get back here so i can defend myself for not breaking instanceloot!
04:38.11JJSheetsI do have screenshots of an early version of the GUI.
04:38.16JJSheetsthey're on the forums.
04:39.24Fisker-alright
04:40.39CIA-1103funkydude * r32318 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua:
04:40.39CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Morogrim:
04:40.39CIA-11- bugfix
04:40.39CIA-11- 25% pre-grobule alert
04:40.39Fisker-i'm so sick QQ :(
04:40.51Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: np
04:40.53JJSheetscan't help you there.
04:41.22Fisker-Been without heat since friday :o
04:41.35Fisker-So i got a cold :/
04:41.42ckknighthey all
04:41.52JJSheetsheya ck
04:41.58Fisker-hey
04:42.04ckknightpomke: yes, it's theoretically possible, though complex.
04:42.04NightHawkTheSaneno heat? ouch :\
04:42.24Fisker-They should come today
04:42.37Fisker-haven't gotten any oil because of easter! >:(
04:42.39JJSheetsck, you see my question up above?
04:42.42ckknightnope
04:42.52JJSheetsI have a profile containing a table containing AceOO objects... I Copy from that profile into another profile... Do I need to manually deserialize and reserialize them?
04:43.05ckknightokay
04:43.13hyperChipmunki like cereal
04:43.24ckknightyou don't need to manually serialize and deserialize
04:43.27ckknight...probable.
04:43.31ckknightprobably*
04:43.34NightHawkTheSaneOoh, cereal sounds killer. I might go get a bowl
04:43.34JJSheetsheh
04:43.44ckknightcereal is pretty good
04:43.57NightHawkTheSaneoh wait, i only have raisin bran. ><
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04:47.26Fisker-<PROTECTED>
04:47.34phantomhow would I go about making a simple ace'd window .. I just need to display a long list of stuff .. from my attempts at poking at AceGUI-2.0 .. it seems prety unstable .. is there any other frameworks for working with gui's there?
04:47.40Fisker-Who would make a story about something that old and pointless :/
04:48.08Arrowmasterhuh what? AceGUI-2.0 works?
04:48.21phantomer .. yea .. no ..
04:48.22NightHawkTheSanephantom: uh, might look into something like tablet if you just need a display
04:48.44phantomwill do .. damned sneaky names of most of these libs
04:48.55CIA-1103funkydude * r32319 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua:
04:48.55CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Morogrim:
04:48.55CIA-11- engage message
04:49.42ckknightphantom: I see no need to use a framework, I just use CreateFrame
04:49.56ckknightoh, but also, there's Tablet, Dewdrop, and Waterfall
04:50.02ckknightthose are like premade gui thingies
04:50.16ckknightTablet shows information
04:50.24ckknightDewdrop is a dropdown configuration system
04:50.35ckknightWaterfall is a non-dropdown config system
04:50.56phantomcan WF be coerced to display stuff instead of "configuring"?
04:51.14JJSheetsphantom, you probably want tablet.
04:51.34phantommaking a mod that tracks promotion times for my guild .. need to display a list of people . (potentially 100's) .. and be scrollable
04:51.48ckknightyea, use Tablet
04:51.51hyperChipmunksounds like a tablet
04:52.19phantomhmm ok will poke around with it
04:52.38ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Tablet-2.0
04:53.18phantomhmm .. I guess tablet are just about every fubar tooltip no .. I can see how that may work very well ..
04:56.54ckknightyea, FuBarPlugin-2.0 uses Tablet-2.0 as its tooltip display
04:57.04ckknightand Dewdrop-2.0 as its configuration
04:57.17ckknightmy guess is the easiest thing that you might want to do is just have it be a FuBar plugin
04:57.41ckknightfun note: FuBarPlugin-2.0 does not require FuBar.
04:58.12xyublasphemy!
04:58.14JJSheetshyperChipmunk, now I know why I was updating cooldowns constantly...
04:58.28phantomI already have a barebone version of the mod as chatbox spam .. but it really needs a "window"
04:58.33hyperChipmunkhaha
04:58.34phantoma
04:58.40phantomso its already an ace2 mod
04:59.31ckknightokay
04:59.44Brunersanyone useing grub as a bootloader here ?
04:59.52hyperChipmunkyea sup
04:59.58ckknightbasically, instead of printing lines, you'd just make it display Tablet lines :-P
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05:00.13harldephinnote: don't forget to eat and drink.
05:00.19phantomuhm .. what am I missing .. I have tablet load in my toc .. but as per the examples .. it still can't find the global "tablet" ..
05:00.22BrunershyperChipmunk: how do i set the default boot ?
05:00.26PHL-Chuckhey guys, where does cartographer gets its instance not link data from? right now its just showing the item number for everything
05:00.37PHL-Chuckinstance loot*
05:00.38Arrowmasterckknight: so who gets the fun job of going through all the fubar mod tocs when 2.1.0 comes out and switching them to use LoadManager:?
05:00.42hyperChipmunkedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
05:00.56hyperChipmunkthere's a line at the top that says e.g. Default=0
05:01.02ckknightArrowmaster: I'll be doing a few of them, make sure everything works
05:01.09ckknightthen outsource it
05:01.15hyperChipmunkset that to the number of the entry you want, 0 being the first
05:01.17ckknightpossibly to...
05:01.18ckknightum...
05:01.19ckknightxyu
05:01.23ckknightyea, he can do that
05:01.26JJSheetshyperChipmunk, you literl linux geek.
05:01.30hyperChipmunkmight be /boot/grub/grub.conf
05:01.34NightHawkTheSane~comfort xyu
05:01.38purlThere, there, xyu.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
05:01.39JJSheetss/literl/literal/
05:01.46hyperChipmunkusually it's aliased as menu.lst though
05:02.09BrunershyperChipmunk: so change it to default 2 if i the OS i want to boot is nr 3 on the list?
05:02.16hyperChipmunkcorrect
05:02.26Fisker-death to all humans?
05:02.27hyperChipmunkyou suck JJSheets; gbtw
05:02.28harldephinJJSheets: doing that often ?
05:02.38BrunershyperChipmunk: kk, going to try that
05:02.41Fisker-nice
05:02.43JJSheetscooldowns are kicking my ass.
05:02.54Fisker-i got like 1000g in Large Prismatic Shards
05:02.54Fisker-;D
05:02.56BrunershyperChipmunk: no need to commit something after saving ?
05:03.01Fisker-got 50 in my bank :o
05:03.08hyperChipmunkjust save it and go
05:03.08JJSheetsjust when I think I have it fixed something else screws up.
05:03.25hyperChipmunkjust rip code from bongos or something =D
05:03.35hasteDoes the author of Baggins hang on IRC?
05:03.46NightHawkTheSanehaste: yes
05:03.53hasteand that's who :) ?
05:04.08NightHawkTheSanehaste: read the toc ? Nargiddley I believe
05:04.17hyperChipmunk/baggins about says nargiddley
05:04.25hasteCan't remember seeing him here tho', just that
05:04.27harldephini have like a dozen knifes in my kitchen. (does that relate?)
05:04.32haste~seen nargiddley
05:05.18purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 2h 11m 15s ago, saying: 'i'll give it a go, no promises tho'.
05:05.18hyperChipmunk~seen nargiddley
05:05.27purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 2h 11m 24s ago, saying: 'i'll give it a go, no promises tho'.
05:05.33hasteguess I'll go whine about his mess on the forums then
05:05.46JJSheetswow... that was in response to my request for multiline text boxes in waterfall...
05:05.47NightHawkTheSanehis mess?
05:06.07hasteyes, he's doing something VERY wrong with his frame code
05:06.37hastethey are basically SetPoint'd and ClearAllPoints'd at the same time
05:06.42hastemaking them impossible to anchor too
05:07.35harldephinlet go anchor then
05:07.50hasteI did a checkout of the first revision he posted in hopes that it was just an error along the way, but it's been like that since the start
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05:09.37Fisker-retarded question inc: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28560 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31110 for healing? ;D
05:10.36harldephinit's a helmet.
05:10.40Arrowmasterfor a pally?
05:10.42NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: for healing, i'd go with the druidic helm
05:11.12ArrowmasterFisker-: you a paladin?
05:11.31Fisker-yeah
05:11.36NightHawkTheSaneI assume so otherwise he wouldnt be considering a plate helm
05:11.44shieldbdruidic helm has more crit, more raw +healing, and I'd wager you can get a larger bonus out of those three sockets then one meta
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05:11.59NightHawkTheSaneyeah, what shieldb said
05:12.06shieldbplus the druidic helm has the wonderful typo of "druidic helmet of of second sight"
05:12.20Fisker-haha
05:12.24JJSheetsI win at cooldowns.
05:12.25Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=27790
05:12.27Fisker-didn't even see that
05:12.34Arrowmaster^^ fucking thing drops ALL THE FUCKING TIME
05:12.37Fisker-LALALALALALALALALALA Arrowmaster
05:12.38hyperChipmunkwe'll see about that
05:12.38Fisker-DROP NEVER
05:12.49Fisker-I've been to like 1 billion fucking steamvault runs
05:12.51hyperChipmunkor did you gank bongos code?
05:12.53Fisker-Always the fucking gun
05:12.54Fisker-ALWAYS
05:12.57CIA-1103jjsheets * r32320 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - Really fixed the cooldowns this time. (Or else I fail at everything)
05:13.05JJSheetsno code gankage here.
05:13.09Arrowmasteri fucking swear the first 2 weeks my guild did steam vaults nothing but that helm droped
05:13.17hyperChipmunkuh huh
05:13.20Arrowmasterwe had no clue what else droped
05:13.31JJSheetswell, not from bongos, and not about the cooldowns.
05:13.37hyperChipmunk=)
05:14.32hyperChipmunkwell, you didn't fix 'em
05:14.42JJSheetswhat the bloody flippin fuck hell.
05:14.52JJSheetsit works perfectly for my druid...
05:15.31hyperChipmunki like how it also doesn't start cooldowns at all until you change the page now, though
05:15.34hyperChipmunknice touch
05:15.45hyperChipmunkoh, it started this time
05:15.59hyperChipmunkstill carried over
05:16.04harldephinplease curse more. not cursing enough might be considered having no emotions.
05:16.23hyperChipmunkyea, tell us how you really feel
05:17.02JJSheetsI tell you it works perfectly for me here...
05:18.56hyperChipmunkok, well, i just cast volley (60s cooldown, page 6, button 11), and no cooldown showed up; switch to page 1, page 1 looks fine, switch to page 6, now the cooldown on volley shows, flip back to page 1, steady shot (0 cooldown, page 1, button 11) says 52 seconds
05:19.25harldephinwhy the switching
05:19.35JJSheetscause that's what the bug is.
05:19.37NightHawkTheSaneto test, obviously
05:19.56JJSheetshyperChipmunk, have you done a reloadui?  I'm assuming so, but hoping not.
05:20.37hyperChipmunki'm somewhat offended that you felt it necessary to ask =p
05:20.42harldephinhm. i've never had a thing like that to experience
05:20.58Fisker-This thread delivers
05:20.58hyperChipmunkharldephin: that's cuz you use addons that don't suck, probably
05:20.59BrunershyperChipmunk: worked :)
05:21.03hyperChipmunk$
05:21.13harldephinhyperChipmunk: oh.
05:21.16JJSheetsI understand what you mean... but I'm not even close to experiencing the bug any more... so...
05:21.26Fisker-btw can i scale buttons individually?
05:21.26JJSheetsare you using macros by chance?
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05:21.40hyperChipmunkneither of those skills are macro'd
05:21.54hyperChipmunkand i just reloaded, just for you, and it does the same
05:21.58JJSheets~whalenuke JJSheets
05:22.14purlACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around JJSheets with his mind powers
05:22.14hyperChipmunkFisker-: that's the only way you can do it in infinibar
05:22.14hyperChipmunkit's painful =)
05:22.56JJSheetsonce I get some bugs killed, I'll be adding a use bar scale option, and adding a bar scale slider as well.
05:23.17JJSheetsthat way people can have it both ways.  with a default of use bar scale.
05:24.23JJSheetshyperChipmunk, another somewhat offensive question for you... you did get revision 32320 right?
05:24.40JJSheets~whaleblock JJSheets
05:24.43purlACTION shields JJSheets with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag
05:24.59hyperChipmunkcurses!
05:25.29JJSheetsso I take it that's a yes?
05:25.32JJSheets:p
05:26.02JJSheetsI wouldn't ask if I was still experiencing the bug.
05:26.46hyperChipmunklemme backup my SVs and try it from a clean slate
05:27.02Fisker-lol wtf
05:27.17Fisker-i almost killed this mage after he attacked me, but i got killed by the guards :(
05:27.26Arrowmaster'Nonprinting lines that you place in code to contain various remarks, including the author name and the date the code was written, are called __________.' Correct Answer: comments Your Response: meta elements
05:27.27Fisker-Then i corpserun back and he's standing there without having eaten or anything
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05:27.29Fisker-:D
05:27.36Arrowmasterblasted online quizes keep tricking me!
05:28.04hyperChipmunkyes, but that's the first step; trust me, i've done this before
05:28.13JJSheetsmeta elements?  you gotta be fuckin kidding me...
05:28.45JJSheetsI'd be confused cause I didn't need and hate shit that does.  :)
05:28.48hyperChipmunkdude, you're stupider than JJSheets
05:28.48Arrowmasterit said author name and the date the code was written!
05:29.03JJSheets>.<
05:29.08Arrowmasterit tricked me!
05:29.13Fisker-Don't you do that in comments?
05:29.21Arrowmasteri sure as hell dont
05:29.37JJSheetsI don't do that at all.  Fuck the Man!
05:29.45Fisker-FUCK YOU
05:29.47JJSheetsthat sounded wrong...
05:29.51Fisker-DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
05:29.59Fisker-They DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT
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05:30.06Fisker-Which is why it's so damn boring :/
05:30.17JJSheetsI fail at documenting.
05:30.25Fisker-i get a program to do it for me
05:30.25Fisker-;D
05:30.26JJSheetsand can readily admit to it.
05:30.37NightHawkTheSanemm.. javadoc
05:30.46Fisker-Just have to put in a short description of something afterwards and i'm set
05:31.04JJSheetsI figure my code should be the documentation... but then I look at it weeks later... and wanna kill the bastard that didn't document.
05:31.21harldephinwhy not write a procedure for stuff like that and put in some additional garbage and something else as well, then outcomment the whole thing and put it into a meta element
05:31.36JJSheetsthus I am not a professional programmer.
05:31.46hyperChipmunkJJSheets: 1 bar, 1 button, clean slate, still happens
05:31.57hyperChipmunki suggest you do the same
05:31.58JJSheetshow the friggin hell...
05:32.00JJSheetsk
05:32.05hyperChipmunkso we have an even comparison
05:32.29hyperChipmunklogout, backup and delete them, log in, make one bar and add one button
05:32.44hyperChipmunkthen put a skill on page one and page two, one with a long cooldown
05:32.52hyperChipmunkuse it, and flip back and forth and see
05:33.12harldephinmaybe logout and backup again?
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05:35.08JJSheetshyperChipmunk, works for me.
05:35.25JJSheetsrather nicely too.,
05:35.34hyperChipmunkhm, sec
05:36.10CIA-1103next96 * r32321 10nQuestLog/modules/DetailsFrame.lua:
05:36.10CIA-11nQuestLog
05:36.10CIA-11- DetailsFrame.lua
05:36.10CIA-11- Update locale koKR
05:36.41hyperChipmunkwhat are you using for cooldown numbers?
05:37.28hyperChipmunkeven without numbers, it isn't starting the cooldown until i flip away and then back
05:37.38JJSheetsThe results of GetItemCooldown, GetSpellCooldown, and GetPetActionCooldown.
05:37.41hyperChipmunkthe default spin-shade
05:37.42phantomwhats an easy way to get a list of wow interface icons so I can pick one for my fubar icon? =)
05:38.04phantom(being art challenged just adopting a wow icon will be easiest)
05:38.16JJSheetsnumbers are not being printed in text at all... just the default spinning frame at the moment.
05:38.19hyperChipmunki don't see any cooldown numbers from your addon alone, without OmniCC
05:38.52hyperChipmunkok, then on your code alone, the only problem is the starting of the longer cooldowns
05:38.58hyperChipmunkit just shows the global spin
05:39.18hyperChipmunki lay a trap, it spins for the global cooldown, and looks available
05:39.22JJSheetsyou're not seeing longer spins?
05:39.32hyperChipmunki go to page one, then back to page 4, and i see the longer one
05:39.50Fisker-[2007/04/11 07:39:56-698-x1]: InfiniBar-1.0\IB_Standard.lua:2020: attempt to index global 'stateMap' (a nil value)
05:39.56Fisker-QQ JJSheets
05:40.16Fisker-and now i can't config it anymoar :(
05:40.25JJSheetsone sec Fisker-
05:40.27hyperChipmunkFisker-: just reloadui
05:40.37hyperChipmunkhappens occasionally to me too
05:40.46JJSheetsshouldn't happen ever...
05:40.58Fisker-happened to me on my first attempt to set it up :O
05:41.16Fisker-and again :D
05:41.48Fisker-I add a bar and set state settings to actionbar1
05:41.53sanariheys guys
05:41.56sanarihey*
05:41.56CIA-1103jjsheets * r32322 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - Fixed bug with stateMap nil value.
05:42.03harldephinmaybe cooldowns' got to be triggered when the spell is fired as well, not just when a bar's switched
05:42.13JJSheetsharldephin, they are.
05:42.20harldephinfor each button individually
05:42.24JJSheetsyes
05:42.30harldephinhm
05:42.38sanarithe mac version of wow has built in itunes keybindings; is it possible to make a small ui that utilizes them?
05:42.55Fisker-lol
05:42.59Fisker-i could choose stancepage 0.5
05:43.00Fisker-;D
05:43.03NightHawkTheSanesanari: doubtful
05:43.14JJSheetshyperChipmunk, if you disable OmniCC, do you at least see all of the spinning cooldowns, not just the globals?
05:43.22JJSheetsFisker-, I blame Waterfall for that.  :p
05:43.27hyperChipmunkno, that's what i mean
05:43.37hyperChipmunkthe conditions i just described are w/o omnicc
05:43.57JJSheetsAnything else that could be messing with it?
05:44.10JJSheetsand wtf is OmniCC doing fucking with my buttons anyway?
05:44.11JJSheetslol
05:44.12sanarihmm
05:44.22Fisker-still funny JJSheets :P
05:45.04Fisker-some way to lift control from bagbars? :P
05:45.14hyperChipmunkdelete it
05:45.20JJSheetsyep
05:45.25Fisker-ah yeah but then i have to RELOAD UI
05:45.27Fisker-i.e. do stuff
05:45.33harldephinsanari: there's add-on stuff like MusicPlayer, but no add-on actually able to control another program outside of WoW, accessing files that are not part of WoW's directory.
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05:45.44Fisker-atleast regarding bartender3
05:45.49Fisker-cause it doesn't regain control of it :o
05:46.15sanariwell, blizz hardcoded the ability to control itunes
05:46.21NightHawkTheSaneIs it just me or is half of everything in torchwood related to sex?
05:46.28sanariso i was wondering how i could hook into the keybindings
05:46.36JJSheetsFisker-, InfiniBar and Bartender3 are unlikely to play nice together.
05:46.43Arrowmastercant hook keybindings
05:46.57harldephinif it's based on protected functions, you can't hook into it
05:47.00sanariitunes keybindings are in the same menu as movement keys for the game
05:47.17Arrowmasterwhat exactly are you wanting to do?
05:47.21JJSheetshyperChipmunk, you running any other addons that could be messing with cooldowns?
05:47.24harldephinand basically hardcoded keybindings are protected
05:47.36sanariwell, i'm not a programmer, so my words may be wrong
05:47.50hyperChipmunknone that i can think of
05:48.13JJSheetsand you've disabled OmniCC from the character selection screen right?
05:48.28sanarii just want to make a small ui, that has a play arrow, forward arrow, and back arrow - to be connected to the keybindings for itunes
05:48.31hyperChipmunk...
05:48.49Arrowmastersanari: yeah not possible
05:48.56Fisker-this is pretty hard to setup :o
05:49.01harldephinsanari: i don't see how that would be possible
05:49.10sanarido you guys have macs?
05:49.12sanarijust curious
05:49.18sanarii can see how it's not possible on pc
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05:50.03sanarii'll do more research on whether it's protected or not
05:50.09sanarithanks for the help  =)
05:50.11Arrowmasterif those functions are protected then theres no way to call them from a custom UI
05:50.13harldephinnot me, no. but it's not a matter of machine architecture, but a matter of "is that information/function (or whatever) available to an add-on or not"
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05:50.21ckknightsanari: I have a mac
05:50.49JJSheetshyperChipmunk, feel like pastey-ing me with a list of your addons?
05:51.06sanarithe only reason i asked about whether you have a mac is whether you'd understand how accesible the itunes keybindings were
05:51.09Fisker-macs ;(
05:51.13sanarinot really about the architecture per se
05:51.22Fisker-offense a given
05:51.32harldephini kind of know macs, i just don't have one.
05:51.43sanarikk
05:52.40Fisker-I dietcoked in your arms tonight JJSheets
05:53.13JJSheets?
05:53.26Fisker-i'm bored
05:53.29Fisker-so i'm raving mad
05:53.33JJSheetsk
05:53.42JJSheetsgood luck with that then
05:54.11NightHawkTheSaneI went mad once. Did me no end of good.
05:54.24hyperChipmunk=)
05:54.37Fisker-fun roleplay though
05:55.10harldephinfun? roleplay? how's that for real..
05:55.47CIA-1103roartindon * r32323 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Fixed castBar being nil errors
05:55.59NightHawkTheSaneroleplaying can be fun. granted, ive never seen it be fun in connection with wow.
05:56.10JJSheetshyperChipmunk, I'm at a total loss.  I can't replicate the error here.
05:56.24Fisker-ah stupid curse-gaming and their non-wow playing!
05:56.43BrunersFisker-: what do you mean ?
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05:58.22Fisker-just thought that 2.1.0 ptr was up
05:58.43Fisker-but it was some obscure vanguard test server
06:00.13harldephinoh, hm, i've seen roleplay to be fun in connection with WoW. it's just not the standard-wannabe-roleplaying-kiddie-people being really into any of this so adequate people for this are mainly those you either already roleplayed outside of WoW or people you feel a rather deep sympathy to.
06:00.39JJSheetswell. I'm going to sleep for the night... adios ya'll
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06:02.42harldephinfor, not to.
06:05.46Fisker-I can add _FREE_ spyware to your system
06:05.48Fisker-it's _FREE_
06:05.50Fisker-you want?
06:05.51harldephinlol
06:07.16harldephinlike the wolf i am, i'm going to repose for a few arns from now on.
06:07.29harldephinnite
06:08.03NightHawkTheSaneo_0 arns? what are we, on a leviathan?
06:09.52harl|awayyea
06:10.11NightHawkTheSanealrighty, just asking
06:12.38Fisker-what's an arns then?
06:12.41ckknightyou know what I don't like in rping? specifically misspelled words due to accents
06:12.56ckknightI understand you're a damn dwarf and/or troll. Stop talking like a jackass
06:12.58ckknightgah
06:16.54xyuUndead: ghahrht ah a hta th at atht grgrgrgl
06:18.01Funkeh`later
06:18.58Fisker-Ya mon!
06:19.08Fisker-Dem accent be pissin' ma off
06:19.16Fisker-<-troll
06:20.01Fisker-Reminds me of the GM vs. pirates chat :P
06:20.11Fisker-"Spitting means that we agree"
06:20.15Fisker-:D
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06:21.59Arrowmasterlol that was one of those classic wow moments
06:24.19CIA-1103roartindon * r32324 10Aloft/CoreModules/HealthBar.lua: Aloft: HealthBar: removed the usage of Prat. Database internally updated by mouseover, guild, roster, battlegrounds
06:34.01toddis there any mod that adds an xp/rep bar to the character pane?
06:34.30ckknightI use FuXPFu
06:35.00CIA-1103roartindon * r32325 10Aloft/CoreModules/ (CastBar.lua HealthBar.lua):
06:35.01CIA-11Aloft
06:35.01CIA-11- HealthBar - Added friends list as a player class source
06:35.01CIA-11- CastBar - Removed some deprecated code
06:36.40toddlooking for one that adds it to the character pane, though
06:37.07toddunless fuxpfu can do that and I'm not aware of it
06:37.45ckknightnah, I don't like that
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06:38.34syerenWho the hell changed the damn size setting for fucking Pitbull.
06:38.40syerenMy frames are huge like I'm a fucking retard.
06:38.46ckknightthat'd be me.
06:38.50ckknightyou retard.
06:38.57toddlol
06:39.01ckknightit's actually not done on purpose
06:39.07ckknightit's a side-effect from an internal code change
06:39.14syerenHow do I set them back to the layout I spent 30 minutes putting there?
06:39.22syerenHell, probably an hour >>_>
06:39.29ckknightoh, just make the width -10px and height -10px
06:39.31ckknightthat'll fix it.
06:39.42ckknightthen it'll look the same as it did before.
06:39.46syerenOn a scroll bar.
06:39.50syerenHow awesome.
06:40.16ckknightum
06:40.20ckknightquit yer bitchin
06:40.32syerenI'll have to do it with Lua Or I'll want to kill stuff.
06:40.41CIA-1103helium * r32326 10LootAlert/core.lua:
06:40.41CIA-11LootAlert:
06:40.41CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
06:40.47Fisker-svn, bleeding edge, etc.
06:40.57ckknightit's an alpha product
06:41.04Fisker-btw will it be possible to size frames down to like 10 pixels?
06:42.30ckknighttheoretically, yes
06:42.30ckknightI could add in the option to go down to 10px
06:42.30syerenNightHawkTheSane, I run 2048X1536 in WoW with a 2k DPI Mouse, one pixel of my mouse movement is 20px >_>
06:43.04Fisker-Petframes are hueg
06:43.07renchap~seen kaelten
06:43.32purlkaelten <n=chatzill@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 1h 32m 11s ago, saying: 'thanks :)'.
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06:43.33ckknighthueg liek ur mom
06:43.33Fisker-hoho
06:43.39Fisker-actually a lot smaller
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06:43.55syerenWhat's teh default height and width of all the frames?
06:44.00Fisker-unless i had like a 100" monitor in 640x480
06:44.07ckknightum... 60 by 200
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06:47.38syerenWhoever came up with the fucking idea for slider bars had a fucking ball mouse on 640X480 with a projector screen.
06:49.09xyui used to be a die-hard ball mouse fan for FPS back in the first and 2nd generation laser mice
06:50.14NightHawkTheSanewell, back then, high quality ball mice were probably at least as good as early opticals
06:50.21xyubetter
06:50.31xyuespecially if you had a low sensitiitiy
06:50.38xyuthe opticals couldn't catch twitch shots
06:50.42xyuand you'd be like shooting the clouds
06:51.39NightHawkTheSaneyeah
06:52.00Tedeumoh whilst you are here ck
06:52.09Tedeumpitbull castbar smoothness
06:52.18Tedeumis it now throttled?
06:52.37Tedeumearly rev's were dead smooth for me, now obvious updates occuring
06:52.58Tedeumnot sure whether its another mod or internal pitbull changes
06:53.10ckknightI need to finish my youtube video on Global Warming
06:53.31Tedeumi'll take that as 'no internal changes nfi what you are talking about' lol
06:53.47syerenYou need to add a function to enter numbers in for width/height/scale >_>
06:53.59syerenI just tried it in 800X600, and scroll bars are still eugh.
06:54.02ckknightI should probably allow an editbox for Dewdrop ranges
06:54.02RoartindonTedeum: Looking at the code, it hasn't been throttled
06:54.29Tedeumk I'll start the binary mod search :P
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06:59.12ckknightdo southerners wear Abercrombie and Fitch?
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06:59.28Dynomckknight: youtube about global warming ?
06:59.51ckknightDynom: I'm making a youtube series
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07:00.00Dynomckknight: cute, what subjects ?
07:00.15ckknightI've done The Food Pyramid and Australia
07:00.18ckknightnow doing Global Warming
07:00.26ckknighthttp://www.youtube.com/southernjesse
07:00.28ckknighttake a look
07:00.33Dynomwhats your opinion over the global warning matter
07:01.03ckknightmy movies are satire
07:01.38Dynomdude wtf
07:01.42ckknightbut wrt global warming, I'm under the belief that the human contribution to the matter is smaller than the great politicizers make it out to be
07:01.44Dynomg.W.Bush pic on the wall ?
07:01.55ckknightand American Flag in the background
07:02.20Tedeumnevertheless there is an impact and can only be an increasing impact as the red dragon rises alongside the indian subcontinent
07:02.25ckknightbut I do believe that global warming is real, just that it's kind of part of the natural ebb and flow of things
07:02.50Heriodon't worry
07:03.01Heriowe'll have plenty of other planets to screw up after this one =)
07:03.05ckknightlol
07:03.16Herioworry about raping this one now
07:03.19Tedeumthe issue is more sustainable resources imo, as the temperature will be the least of our problems when countries start really fighting over resources
07:03.37ckknightright
07:03.54ckknightthere are plenty of issues besides global warming that will destroy humanity and/or the economy
07:03.57ckknightpeak oil, for instance
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07:04.06Tedeumwater for another
07:04.11NightHawkTheSanebecause the issues arnt at all related. >.>
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07:04.30ckknightNightHawkTheSane: Global Warming does not cause Peak Oil. Peak Oil does not cause Global Warming.
07:04.44ckknightthey may be indirectly connected due to consumption of oil and whatnot
07:04.49ckknightbut by no means directly connected
07:04.54ckknightit's infeasible for them to be
07:05.00NightHawkTheSanei didnt say they were directly related
07:05.07Dynomckknight: I agree with you if you say it's inevitable and that we can call ourselfs egocentric and ignorant if we can think we can actually have infuence on nature
07:05.19Tedeumits not a sandbox, sure everything is related, but the human condition relates to resources imo
07:05.35ckknightDynom: I believe we have some influence, just not as much as the great politicizers make it out to be
07:05.41Tedeumpeople can live in the desert provided they have energy and water
07:06.02ckknightpeople aren't made of glass
07:06.06ckknightwe're pretty tough
07:06.29Heriowe'll be made of glass soon enough
07:06.39Dynomckknight: sure; if you nuke 100 bombs over the world we probably screw something up, but the world survived like every blow earth ever had, waaaay before we set foot on it ('god' knows what happend allready) Nature can deal with it's problems just fine, we'd be dead way before earth dies
07:06.43Heriosand first, though
07:07.02ckknightnot me
07:07.05ckknightI'm living forever
07:07.07ckknightI've decided.
07:07.10Dynomthe only thing we fuckup is our own existance
07:07.12Tedeumgood for you
07:07.25Dynomckknight: can I join you then?
07:07.30ckknightdepends
07:07.31Dynomckknight: then at leasst you won't be alone
07:07.35ckknightyou have to go through all these rituals
07:07.42Roartindonincluding a sex change
07:07.45Tedeumanyway they found water on a planet outside the solar system, we are saved!
07:07.46ckknight...no
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07:08.45NightHawkTheSaneTedeum: I fail to see how that makes any differnece :P
07:08.50ckknighthrm...
07:09.19Dynomby the time we are ready to move to another planet, we have these little endless bottles that produce some sort of stuff that looks tastes and acts like water
07:09.26Dynomand we can make endless supply's of it
07:09.40TedeumWell.... it might spawn a space race.... at least then we would all have work and a new frontier to break through!
07:09.45ckknightI'm really just counting on fusion becoming viable in the next century
07:09.58NightHawkTheSaneTedeum: they tried that in the 60's, it got us far for sure
07:09.58ckknightAmerica owns the moon, Tedeum
07:09.59Brunerscan we play wow on another planet?
07:10.18ckknightBruners: yea, but you'd need to play on a different server
07:10.25Brunersthen its not an option
07:10.27Bruners:P
07:10.37NightHawkTheSaneBlizzard would have to open Lunar servers.
07:10.40Noekoefree migration
07:10.41ckknightyou could transfer.
07:10.54Tedeumdamn think of the lag :(
07:11.03DynomI'm counting on perpetual motion to be invented soon
07:11.04NightHawkTheSaneYou'd envy the aussies
07:11.12Noekoeyou shoot frostbolt and it takes 10yrs to hit
07:11.14Tedeumi am an aussie and I don't envy myself
07:11.15Dynombut thgen again, I also count on being very very rich soon also
07:11.22Tedeumwell i do, just not for wow :P
07:11.39NightHawkTheSaneTedeum: lol, well, then you just wont move to the moon i guess
07:12.30Dynomcasting shadowbolt, shadowbolt misses target and flies off the planet, hits some monster on mars and it pwnswtf our planet, suddenly [ G A M E   O V E R ] Blinks on your MMORPG screen.
07:12.36Tedeumdepends which moon, Titan now..... that would be worth migrating!
07:13.37NightHawkTheSaneYeah, unless we get subspace communication up and running, I think lag from titan would be a bit much
07:13.37NightHawkTheSaneI have no desire to relive the old 14.4 days
07:13.52Tedeumif aussies colonise it there is no way blizz will set up local servers... better be koreans i guess
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07:14.58Dynomyeah or russians
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07:17.06CyrezIs there a /script command to load an addon that's LoD?
07:17.21Fisker-/script LoadAddon("name")
07:17.23Fisker-i believe
07:17.50ckknightomfg
07:18.04ckknighthow do I undelete stuff from the Trash in iMovie?
07:18.22Fisker-good ol dos and undelete!
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07:18.32ckknightI can see it
07:18.34ckknightI can play it
07:18.38ckknightI can't undelete it
07:18.38Fisker-You can always try with some data recovery software
07:18.39ckknightwtf!
07:19.21mitch0ckknight: can't you just drag'n'drop it to someplace else? (no idea what sort of gui that iMovie has :)
07:19.28ckknightI've tried
07:19.31ckknightwon't drag
07:19.37Healththe stupid mac user!
07:19.48Healthmmm, dran 'n drop doesn't work!
07:19.58Healthoh yes
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07:27.36MelisandreHi
07:28.56shieldbhmm.. so with corpseway turned on, if you die in naxx it gives you a waypoint in alterac mountains
07:29.21Laricworkthats the same thing if you die in kara
07:30.38Fisker-yeah
07:30.43Fisker-it's a blizztard bug i believe
07:30.49AenslaedDoes anyone here know how to take a unified diff patch and apply it to a file?
07:31.29Fisker-i get to say it this time!
07:31.30Fisker-man diff
07:31.32Fisker-lolololol
07:31.42Fisker-or it's man patch actually but still
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07:36.15Fisker-Anyone know how to easily make some kind of "Server offline for maintanence" to block users doing stuff on my sites while i upgrade it?
07:37.29NightHawkTheSaneecho "Server offline for maintenance" | cat > index.html
07:39.21Fisker-Person could still access it by using a direct link i guess?
07:39.36Fisker-Was more wondering if apache had some tag or option in .htaccess i could modify
07:39.51NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i was mostly being a smartass. ;)
07:40.00Laricworkyou can use the rewrite engine in apachae to redirect all traffic to index.html
07:40.03NightHawkTheSanethere's probably some .htaccess magic you could do, with mod_rewrite or something
07:40.32Fisker-awesome!
07:40.42Fisker-might as well go google it :/
07:40.44Arrowmasterthis is humorious
07:40.49Arrowmasteryoutube is broke
07:41.28shieldbFisker-, instead direct every request on your server to http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/pinodita/Mac%20in%20Our%20Everyday%20Life/ex86-sadmac.gif
07:43.58LaricworkRewriteEngine on
07:43.58LaricworkRewriteRule !down.php$ /down.php [L]
07:44.12Laricworkthose 2 lines redirect all traffic to down.php
07:44.37Fisker-awesome
07:44.59evlAll my friends are dead, all my friends are dead, my server is dead, and all my friends are dead!
07:45.01Laricworkrequires mod_rewrite ofcoz
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07:46.43Fisker-rewrite.load? :o
07:46.51DynomLaricwork: mod_rewrite ftwpwn
07:47.17Fisker-nice
07:47.17Fisker-it works
07:47.34Dynommod_headers ftwpwn also btw
07:48.04Fisker-Anyone manage some ubuntu 6.06?
07:48.19Fisker-I'm thinking about changing to an unoffocial repository to add php 5.2.1 support
07:48.19Dynomno, don't like that distro
07:48.39Fisker-Was that or debian :P
07:48.46Fisker-debian stable of course
07:48.51Dynomwhy only those two
07:49.08Laricworkdebian stable.. isnt that like using 10 year old software only?
07:49.10Fisker-it's a rented server
07:49.14Fisker-precisely
07:49.18Fisker-But i can install what i want
07:49.27Fisker-Problem is they only support installations of debian and ubuntu
07:49.30Dynomdno, don't use debian also
07:49.39Fisker-and i don't know shit about linux :P
07:49.51Dynomwell ubuntu is a redhat thingy, so you can get rly good support on it
07:49.53Brunersi must say that i love debian :)
07:50.29Laricworkisnt ubuntu a debian derivate?
07:50.44Dynomthought it was redhat
07:50.59Dynomoh yeah, you rright
07:51.16Laricworkyou are thinking of fedora?
07:51.24Dynomis a widely used Linux distribution predominantly targeted at personal computers. Based on Debian GNU/Linux
07:51.30Dynomyeah, that could be
07:52.02Fisker-wtf
07:52.07Fisker-a group with 3 warriors in it
07:52.11Fisker-for black morass :/
07:52.17DynomI prefer slackware or archlinux
07:52.22DynomFisker-: well why not
07:52.22Fisker-the jedi's are gonna feel that one
07:52.31Laricworkfiske add lock and healer and you are set to go :P
07:52.32Fisker-and a rogue >:(
07:52.38Dynomroflmao
07:52.43Laricworkrogue on adds
07:52.46Laricworkworks fine
07:52.52xyui did it w/ warrior on adds
07:52.52NightHawkTheSanehey, it could be worse
07:52.53xyujust fine
07:52.56NightHawkTheSanethey could be prot warriors.
07:53.00xyuhand WF
07:53.01Fisker-just hueg damage
07:53.02xyuad*
07:53.26Dynomman.. Zend can be so slow when you want support but if they want to sell you something they call you twice a day
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07:53.40Fisker-lol
07:53.56xyuis that iPhone released yet?  
07:53.57Fisker-the rogue asks the tank to take adds gogo!
07:54.34Dynomxyu: afaik not, it's one of the reasons I bought the w950
07:54.35Elkanowow, someone having fun with EBBs ^^ http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5785/buffbarsvs9.jpg
07:55.07Elkanofun to see that people DO use the included features :)
07:55.23Dynomebb ?
07:55.24xyui just got a sharp vidafone.  4mpx cam.  not very happy w/ it though.  
07:55.42ElkanoElkBuffBars
07:55.44LaricworkElkano that one is a 'tad' excessive dont you think?
07:55.45xyuit doesn't handle music very well.  the screen is beautiful though
07:57.17xyuwhat addon is doing that tiny pink xp bar below the fubar ?
07:57.31Laricworkfuxpfu
07:57.34xyuty
07:58.41ElkanoLaricwork: well, found the pic in an italian message board via google ^^
07:59.09Elkanobut I think he only wanted to show what's possible as he was suggesting the addon to his guildmates
07:59.54Elkanobtw: seems like someone killed youtube :(
07:59.59evlyeah
08:00.01ckknightwtf, seriously?
08:00.04evlyes :D
08:00.06ckknightI'm almost ready to publish!
08:00.09evlwatch?<whatever> = 404 :D
08:00.17ckknightlame.
08:00.25evlWas trying to find highlights from Manchester United - Roma = 7-1
08:00.27evl:o
08:01.14CIA-1103roartindon * r32327 10Aloft/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
08:01.14CIA-11Aloft
08:01.14CIA-11- Separated class database into its own file, that provides data
08:01.14CIA-11- Added new Aloft:OnNameplateUpdateData event for data providers to hook into
08:01.14CIA-11- Removed class database code from HealthBar
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08:06.46ckknightalright, compressing the movie...
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08:06.54ckknightwonder if I can still publish to youtube while it's messed up
08:07.00Elkanockknight, seems like it's back up
08:07.04ckknightoh, okay
08:07.19mitch0ckknight: what sort of video will it be?
08:07.28ckknightanother one of my southernjesse videos
08:07.51mitch0oh that!
08:08.10NoekoePitBull: minheight for frames set to 10 because there are weird mofos out there. ROFL :)
08:08.10ckknightlamer.
08:08.32ckknightmitch0: http://www.youtube.com/southernjesse
08:09.09mitch0is that you in that weirdo hat?
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08:10.36ckknightyea
08:10.40ckknightlame, youtube is still messed up
08:10.53ckknightand don't you diss my cowboy hat
08:12.33mitch0hehe, you're either really cynical, or really stupid :)
08:13.01mitch0given the stuff you do otherwise, I'd place my bet on the former though :)
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08:14.47ckknightit's satire
08:15.04Noekoeo rly lol :P
08:15.28ckknightya rly
08:15.47HealthWe want to hear about global warming
08:15.54ckknightuploading now
08:17.09mitch0ckknight: what was the stuff blacked out on the food pyramid? my english is not so good, you see :)
08:17.29ckknightmitch0: dairy section
08:18.01mitch0ah. that's a new word for me, thanks
08:18.25ckknightdairy includes milk primarily, as well as cheese and yoghurt
08:18.36mitch0so most of the good stuff :)
08:18.47ckknightthe dairy industry is kinda evil
08:18.50ckknightin its own way
08:19.04Noekoeand thats why? :)
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08:20.09mitch0'cos cows are bad, haven't you watched the video? they sprayed ckk all over the face and stuff
08:21.18ckknightalright, youtube is processing it now
08:21.24ckknightthe Global Warming episode
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08:27.54CIA-11WitchHunt:
08:27.54CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
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08:32.42Fisker-omfg this team
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08:34.08Fisker-there's like one warrior going all the way down to medivh
08:34.14Fisker-and the rest of the group in one end
08:34.24Fisker-AND I HAVE TO GO DOWN AND FIND THE WARRIOR BECAUSE HE ADDED A LOT OF ADDS
08:34.42Fisker-who would do such a thing :/
08:35.08Healthhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbh3uAZ4WUM - this is sweden
08:35.18[Ammo]morning
08:35.22dottedmorning
08:36.17HealthThat's how we celebrate midsumme
08:36.18Healthr
08:37.19krkai don't get it... it's too real to be funny :(
08:38.06HealthI know :( we just talked about that it's not too far from the truth
08:39.27krkawe don't wear the silly folkdräkter... but the rest was pretty accurate
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08:39.50Laricworkkrka are you swedish?
08:39.59HealthYes he is!
08:41.34CIA-1103ammo * r32329 10PitBull_RangeCheck/ (PitBull_RangeCheck.lua PitBull_RangeCheck.toc): PitBull_RangeCheck: make use of babble-spell for the spells
08:41.52Laricworkhow do I change the icon sizes in pitbull?
08:42.01Healthof spells?
08:42.03Laricworkthe combat icon is like tiny
08:42.07[Ammo]you don't
08:42.30[Ammo]unless someone codes the options for it
08:43.20krkaofc i am swedish, all the best coders are½
08:43.28Fisker-wtf
08:43.36Fisker-isn't it the first boss who does mortal wound in black morass?
08:43.47Laricworkso it isnt controlled through themes?
08:43.48[Ammo]krka obviously has not heard of the phrase: If you ain't dutch you ain't much
08:43.50HealthLaricwork: Use the combatfade module! It's hot
08:44.01[Ammo]Laricwork: it can be controlled through layouts
08:44.06[Ammo]but it isn't included in the layout atm
08:44.09krkai generally don't bother with nonsense idioms
08:44.18dottedIf you are not dane, you are probably insane!
08:44.27HealthWe know how to celebrate midsummer at least
08:44.58Laricworkmidsommar afton er fina saker :P
08:45.37krkaif you're not a swede, you're probably can't read!
08:45.37krkasee, it rhymes!
08:45.37dottedso? you are insane so :/
08:45.37krkahmm... bad grammar, i need to stop editing sentences out of order
08:45.48HealthYou're so poetic
08:45.50CIA-1103next96 * r32330 10Aloft/ (Aloft-koKR.lua Aloft.toc):
08:45.50CIA-11Aloft :
08:45.51CIA-11- Add locale koKR
08:46.08HealthIf you're not a sweden, you're not poetic!
08:47.20ckknightkrka: also is grammatically incorrect
08:47.24[Ammo]I hate the action bars
08:47.37[Ammo]PlaceAction is only called when you pick up one action and drop it onto another
08:47.50[Ammo]UseAction is called when you place an action in an empty slot
08:47.51[Ammo]grr
08:47.51krkackknight: yes i know, that's why i wrote "bad grammar"
08:48.10krkasince you didn't read that, you must not be swedish!
08:48.18krkaergo, my poetic statement holds
08:48.36ckknightI'm American
08:48.38ckknightwoo!
08:51.07evlamericans suck :(
08:51.10evldamn warmongers!
08:51.36ckknighthey, what maternity is to woman, war is to man
08:51.41krkayeah stop monging so much
08:51.49ckknightmongering
08:52.13krka!!!
08:52.22evloh wait, what the hell am I saying living in one of the largest oil-exporting countries in the world, keep up the good work, my mortgage interest rate has plummeted since Afghanistan :D
08:52.46ckknightCanada?
08:53.01ckknightGlobal Warming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgBQQ2BxC0I
08:53.04CIA-1103jerry * r32331 10Talented_Data/ (Talented_Data_deDE.lua Talented_Data_frFR.lua): Talented_Data: update
08:53.22evlckknight: norway :)
08:53.30Laricworkevl you live in no(r)way?
08:53.37dottedckknight who the hell is that :/?
08:53.37ckknightmore like snoreway
08:53.43ckknightme, dotted
08:54.24dottedoh ok, usually such "youtupes" scare me :(
08:54.51LaricworkAmerican signifies anyone who lives in North or South America.. so it is a rather big area.. :P
08:54.55Fisker-omfg
08:55.07Fisker-I didn't learn rule 1 of pugs
08:55.23ckknightdotted: what do you mean?
08:55.23Dynomanyone here happend to be colorblind ?
08:55.28Laricworkdont expect anything good :P
08:55.44ckknightLaricwork: fine, I'm Amer'can
08:55.51dottedckknight i just think its sily to record yourself - but thats just me
08:55.51[Ammo]Laricwork: if you have suggestions on good icon sizes for the icons give them
08:56.00Brunersnorway ftl
08:56.15dotted*silly
08:56.15evlHey, atleast we know how to exploit the state of the world!
08:56.16ckknightdotted: I like making jokes
08:56.29Laricworkammo will do when I find where you set it too small so I can adjust to a working size :P
08:56.42dotted(i dont have any sound on since im in school)
08:57.00[Ammo]Laricwork: they are currently only in :OnUnknownLayout
08:57.03[Ammo]in each of the modules
08:57.08[Ammo]I can add them to the ABF.lua
08:57.16[Ammo]so you can fiddle with them easier
08:57.36Laricworkthat would be nice
08:57.39[Ammo]they are tuned for ABF atm anyway positionwise
08:57.45[Ammo]k give me a minute
08:58.36[Ammo]more than a minute actually, addons need updating first :)
08:59.00ckknighteveryone needs to watch my youtube video :-P
08:59.18Laricworkbah.. you tube is blocked here
08:59.30Laricworkcant use any fun video sites anymore
08:59.46Aenslaedtime to start using a proxy!
09:00.03Laricworkwhere can I find a public proxy then?
09:00.08[Ammo]tunnel all your traffic over the SSL port via a personal machine :)
09:00.16Fisker-buy your own proxy
09:00.22Fisker-or that
09:00.32Laricworkthat is a pita :P
09:00.47ckknighthow bout myspace?
09:00.51AenslaedCoDeeN proxies work most of the time
09:00.53ckknightI also upload to there
09:01.00ckknighthttp://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.myvideos&MyToken=2c98889f-1ca5-40fb-89f7-5af06668c5f7
09:01.02Aenslaedsamair.ru/proxy
09:01.11evlckknight: OMG HI 2U, CAN U ADD ME?
09:01.20Aenslaedjust make sure they say CoDeeN/Planetlab
09:01.31ckknightif you want to send me a friend invite, I'd probably accept
09:01.33Laricworkyou gotta be a member to see a video
09:01.37ckknightlame.
09:01.58Laricwork"You Must Be Logged-In to do That!"
09:02.06ckknightnow to tell my guildmates about it
09:02.19evlbest song ever.
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09:05.41Fisker-http://www.janvitus.netsons.org/ <-nice video :P
09:05.48CIA-1103ammo * r32333 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: add the pvp,leader,master,rest,combat icons to ABF layout.
09:05.54[Ammo]gogo Laricwork
09:05.57Noekoegogo
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09:08.29Laricwork:P
09:08.54Dynomthis is hilarious: http://www.personal.psu.edu/v23/presentations/standards/whyStandards/index.html
09:10.02Dynom( If you don't get the clue right away, this site has 94 errors and doesn't follow the standards they preach about )
09:10.14ZealotOnAStickAmmo - yay!
09:10.29krkathat's like irony or something
09:10.58ZealotOnAStickIs a font specified in the ABF layout, or is is just using the defaults for UnknownLayout?
09:11.36ckknightwell, not specified anywhere, really
09:11.38[Ammo]that's the next thing I wanted to change
09:11.45ckknightshould probably add an option for that.
09:11.48[Ammo]make everything use a font from sharedmedi
09:11.54ckknightI was thinking the same.
09:12.14[Ammo]but then people will want to change it per fontstring
09:12.36ZealotOnAStickit'd be awesome, feature-wise, if we could select a global font for a layout from a selection list of SML registered fonts.
09:12.38[Ammo]and add barframes.ttf or something to sharedmedia
09:12.43[Ammo]yeah
09:12.48ckknightscrew those guys.
09:12.48ckknightjust make it global for now
09:12.51[Ammo]yeah
09:12.54ckknightlike the statusbar textures
09:12.59[Ammo]I agree
09:13.10ZealotOnAStickWhatever Pitbull is using by default is a bit "fat" for my tastes.
09:13.19[Ammo]it should be barframes.ttf per default
09:13.26Elkanocan't wait for kirkburn making ClearFont use SharedMediaLib ^^
09:13.26[Ammo]that's the one agUF uses as a default
09:13.40ckknight[Ammo]: agreed
09:14.08[Ammo]now to make it work :p
09:14.40HealthI got my highlighted fading, so I'm happy!
09:14.42[Ammo]I'll add a Fonts folder and add the barframes font
09:14.46ckknight*thumbs up*
09:14.48ZealotOnAStickElkano - base ClearFont2 registers its fonts now with SML.
09:14.55ZealotOnAStickI haven't touched the font packs yet.
09:15.00Elkanoit does? cool :)
09:15.06dottedis development stopped on agUF, or is it because agUF is "not so well" coded you start PitBull ckknight?
09:15.08ckknight[Ammo]: I should also steal the Cilo texture and make that the default.
09:15.21[Ammo]Cilo sucks but shrug
09:15.21ZealotOnAStickand of course, CF2 doesn't currently (yeah, Kirkburn said "someone go hack it up" when I asked him about it earlier, so I added Roartindon's code to do that) . . .
09:15.28ckknight[Ammo]: what do you think?
09:15.38[Ammo]I use bantobar myself
09:15.41ckknightdotted: I started it because agUF is not easily hackable or extendable
09:15.41[Ammo]but that's a personal pref
09:15.45IndustrialI like the Clear or CLean or whatever its called texture
09:15.45ckknightI don't like BantoBar :-P
09:15.53[Ammo]the other one that's nice is Smooth
09:15.57Industrialyes
09:16.00Industrialbut!
09:16.00ZealotOnAStickas I was saying, CF2 doesn't currently allow you to pick up other fonts from SML registered stuff and allow those to be used.
09:16.10Industrialits borked, it has a border
09:16.10ZealotOnAStickI'll leave that to Kirkburn to play with, or not.
09:16.23Industrialckknight: make your own, but like Smooth :D
09:16.52dottedSmooth and Glze ftw :p
09:16.57dotted*Glaze
09:17.08[Ammo]it doesn't really matter
09:17.10evlGlaze ftw!
09:17.13[Ammo]since you can change it
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09:17.42CIA-1103jerry * r32334 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFuLocal-frFR.lua): FuBar_GroupFu: added french locale (thanks Malkoms)
09:17.50ZealotOnAStickI've hacked up everything to use LiteStep.  IceHud's ToT bar, SW_Stats, KTM . . .
09:18.32ZealotOnAStickdotted: whether or not development on agUF continues or not is up to andreasg.
09:18.57ZealotOnAStickhe's said he'd probably switch to PitBull himself IF it ended up with the features he personally wanted, so . . . *shrug*
09:19.08ckknightI believe last time I heard him he was hedging his bets on PitBull
09:19.10ckknight*shrug*
09:20.07ZealotOnAStickPitBull has, I think from what I've noticed, more power/flexibility in its layout system, which I think will end being a big thing once some of the more creative people get their hands on it.
09:20.22Healthhackis
09:20.35HealthEven useless me hacked it!
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09:20.57Industriali stopped updating ym layout (still works reasonably well afaik). I should update it some time.
09:21.13ckknightIndustrial: I made it much easier due to not needing the 5px insets anymore
09:21.14ZealotOnAStickWith the change Ammo just made above with adding those icons to the default layout (making them oh-so-easy to move around to my satisfaction now) and something being done to allow font selection, it'll be time for me to switch on my main.
09:21.22Industrialckknight: coolio
09:21.23ckknightyea, I made PitBull specifically very hackable
09:22.10ZealotOnAStickI've been testing it on my druid alt, and stuck with my agUF config on my main simply because reconfiguring stuff 9 times a week on a raiding char is . . . tiresome.
09:22.27evlSame here
09:22.29Health. . .
09:22.33Healthnice with the spaces there
09:22.39ZealotOnASticknot the triple dot!
09:22.41[Ammo]I'm hacking the global font setting in now
09:22.53Industrialits the triple dot! hide!
09:22.56ckknight…
09:22.58Healthhack the planet1
09:23.01ckknighttrue ellipsis
09:23.07ckknightbam!
09:23.23ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeUhSjuhQYE
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09:23.53CIA-1103jerry * r32335 10Click2Cast/ (Click2Cast-frFR.lua Click2Cast.toc): Click2Cast: Added french translation (thanks schtroumpf)
09:24.15Fisker-nice
09:24.25Fisker-26% crit on my holy light
09:24.33Stephmwheya
09:24.33Fisker-and +1080 healing :o
09:25.10ckknighthey Stephmw
09:26.12Stephmwwere there any blizz reactions to in-game game addons? (stuff like tic-tac-tow, connect4, etc
09:26.19ZealotOnAStickSo, I burned off all 5 DVDs of the full Adobe Creative Suite Production Studio (CS2 version) last night, and I installed it on the laptop and played with Premiere Pro and After Effects a bit tonight.
09:26.23Stephmw*toe
09:27.02ZealotOnAStickIf I can get it to encode out to Xvid, that's going to be a helluva nifty piece of guild raid movie software.
09:27.37[Ammo]the default fontsize for GameFontHightlightSmall = 12 ?
09:27.48ckknightI believe so, ys
09:27.48ckknightyes*
09:27.51dottedZealotOnAStick you need a frameserver to encode dirextly to xvid from premiere pro
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09:28.47[Ammo]k
09:28.57ZealotOnAStickdotted: meh.  Why the fuck can't it accept external codecs like Vegas can?
09:29.28StephmwAdobe loves to lock in its users
09:29.31dottedit can you can choose xvid as codec - but it wont encode
09:29.39dottedits a bug
09:29.40ZealotOnAStickI suppose I could just encode to WMV9, but I think Xvid is a bit nicer.
09:30.12dottedwhat i did is to encode to a lossless format nd then use vdub to encode to xvid
09:31.20dottedyou can also install a framserver plugin for premiere and encode directly to xvid using vdub
09:31.43evlHoly shit that Jimmy vid was funny, half my workmates think I'm smoking something thus the constant giggling
09:32.25Healthwhich?
09:32.36evl...
09:32.39HealthThe Zealot one?
09:32.42evlYeah
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09:33.03evlThe moral of the video is: To fix foreign relations, donate a shitload of cotton to Iran
09:33.19Dynomprocoder ftw
09:33.59CIA-1103roartindon * r32336 10Aloft/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
09:33.59CIA-11Aloft
09:33.59CIA-11- Removed roster from HealthBar
09:33.59CIA-11- Added RedisplayNameplates/RedisplayFriendlyNameplates method to Aloft
09:33.59CIA-11- Added visibility module
09:34.51CIA-1103roartindon * r32337 10Aloft_GuildOnly/: Aloft_GuildOnly: Removed as its superceded by Visibility in the default Aloft package
09:35.05dottedDynom for xvid encoding? oO
09:35.16Dynomdotted: anny encoding
09:35.18Dynomany*
09:35.27dottedbut ZealotOnAStick you should try x264 thats an awsome codec
09:35.34Dynomyeah rly nice indeed
09:35.46Dynombtw, wasn't it h264 ?
09:35.55dottedthats the standard
09:36.01dottedx264 is the codec
09:36.04Tornhoofheh half the world can't play it
09:36.14CIA-1103next96 * r32338 10Aloft/Aloft-koKR.lua:
09:36.14CIA-11Aloft :
09:36.14CIA-11- sorry Typo fix :)
09:36.19dottedxvid standard is mpeg4 part-2 i believe
09:36.21Tornhoofor probably half the wow world
09:36.24DynomTornhoof: sure they can, mediaplayerclassic, or realplayer can play it
09:36.25Stephmwthat's only the 1/2 of the world without an ipod :)
09:36.28Dynomand ofc quicktime
09:36.32Tornhoofno dynom
09:36.37evlh264 is pretty standard?
09:36.41evlVLC plays it, QuickTime plays it
09:36.44Dynomevl: exactly
09:36.53Tornhoofquicktime plays a few versions
09:36.53evlWindowsMedia doesn't play it cause they don't like open standards
09:37.02Tornhoofespecially not in avi container
09:37.07Tornhoofmeaning no x264 codec ;)
09:37.11evlVLC plays it
09:37.12dottedmatroska ftw ;)
09:37.15Brunerswho uses wmp anyway?
09:37.15evlif in doubt, VLC plays it
09:37.16Dynommpc also play's it
09:37.19evlor the file is corrupt
09:37.32dottedTornhoof x264 can be in an avi container
09:37.33Tornhoofwhat i rather mean is that 99%  does not have the processing power to play it
09:37.34Dynomdotted: thats actually not a bad codec
09:37.34evlh264 has amazing quality for amazing low filesize
09:37.49Tornhoofquicktime needs mov container ;)
09:38.00StephmwTornhoof: I'm not sure I agree... encoding yes, it's intensive.
09:38.07Tornhoofdecoding too
09:38.10StephmwTornhoof: but decoding.... if you can play wow, you have enough cpu
09:38.13Tornhoofno
09:38.16dottedTornhoof depends on the resolution
09:38.26Dynomhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264  \o/
09:38.41Tornhoofi know that
09:38.54dottedmy dads computer can easily play x264 files, but not in HD resolution
09:39.05evlInfact, is there anything MORE standardized than x264? :P
09:39.09Dynomeven my gf's shitty laptop can play h264's at 640x480 ish
09:39.15Dynomevl: sure, mpeg 2 :-]
09:39.17Tornhoofwho cares about low res?
09:39.17evlISO, MPEG; bla bla bla, h264 wins abbreviation war
09:39.22dottedwether it be encoded in xvid, x264, mpeg2 or what ever
09:39.59barfolomeowwell
09:40.07Tornhoofx264 is not much superior to xvid etc. on low res
09:40.11barfolomeowx264 isn't free, it's gpl, so it's viral
09:40.24dottedbut thats mostly related to the crappy chipset driver VIA provideds
09:40.54Tornhoofusing x264 below 720p is overkill ;)
09:41.06Stephmwbarfolomeow: Free or free?
09:41.21Tornhoofand many ppl can't play 720p h264 content
09:42.12barfolomeowStephmw: Aids AIDS or aids?
09:43.12NoekoeAIDS since its short :)
09:43.45mitch0ckknight: keep up with these jesse videos :) just work a bit on your pronounciation and/or microphone so as us not-so-native speakers can understand all of it
09:43.50dottedTornhoof x264 != minimum resolution of 720p
09:44.01Tornhoofit's useless below
09:44.07dottedits fine
09:44.13ckknightmitch0: I have trouble pronouncing things sometimes
09:44.15Stephmwlooks fine on the ipod
09:44.22Tornhoofyah, quality about the same as xvid/divx whatever
09:44.30Tornhoofand way more computational intensive
09:44.31ckknightI don't talk much normally, so I sometimes stumble over words
09:44.32Tornhoofeven at low res
09:45.37Laricworkis there any good svn ide out there? or are you all using tortoise (makes my pc behave like one) or svn cmdline?
09:46.20krkaeclipse handles svn afaik, but i haven't tried it
09:46.26ckknightI use the svn package inside TextMate
09:46.30barfolomeowsame for netbeans
09:46.32krkaemacs can probably do it too
09:46.46krkai use commandline when in linux and tortoise in windows
09:46.48Silviu-svn comandline here
09:47.21Laricworktortoise slows explorer to a crawl
09:47.27Stephmwsvn cli && eclipse on linux... windows? what windows? :)
09:47.39ZealotOnAStickI use TortoiseSVN . . . UE32's "suite" deal or whatever that has UltraCompare and other stuff bundled all together includes SVN support in its pseudo-IDE . . . but that's money still.  At least, last I checked.
09:47.39barfolomeowStephmw: same? ^^
09:47.50LaricworkStephmw the enviroment that wow is designed for :P
09:47.52Dynomdun rly like eclipse though
09:48.13StephmwLaricwork: faster and more stable than windows ever was :D
09:48.24LaricworkI have uestudio.. gonna check it's options..
09:48.32barfolomeowStephmw: faster? ;)
09:49.01Stephmwbarfolomeow: I get about 10fps more on average
09:49.02DynomLaricwork: I like Zend studio rly well, but thats mostly PHP I think
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09:49.32krkai also got better performance in linux
09:49.32barfolomeowStephmw: i get many less, even on gentoo
09:49.54Stephmwbarfolomeow: I just switched from gentoo to ubuntu, no changes
09:50.05barfolomeowStephmw: same, same result :)
09:50.10Healthplease tell us more krka!
09:50.28Stephmwbarfolomeow: opengl or d3d?
09:50.40Dynomd3d on linux ?
09:50.47barfolomeowStephmw: cedega wine winex or whatever?
09:50.52Stephmwaye, WINE supports d3d
09:51.00krkano Health!
09:51.13Dynombut still
09:51.13Stephmwbarfolomeow: wine, latest ubuntu stable
09:51.22Stephmwbarfolomeow: 0.9.34 iirc
09:51.27barfolomeowStephmw: ati?
09:51.49Stephmwbarfolomeow: nvidia 7600GS 512mb, agp.... passive cooled ;)
09:52.03barfolomeowStephmw: btw just to be honest, you are not playing on linux when you use wine :)
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09:53.44Stephmwbarfolomeow: baaaaah, as close as we'll ever get
09:54.36Tornhoofjust use the os besser suited to a certain task ;)
09:55.11Stephmwobviously linux for me :)
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09:57.55krkawhy would running wine mean not running linux?
09:58.25Dynombecause running cygwin isn't running linux either ?
09:58.39Tornhoofwine is not an emulator ;)
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09:59.12abbat_wgood day guys
10:00.10abbat_wbtw guys, someone already use PitBull?
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10:01.02Stephmwabbat_w: aye! love it, warts included :)
10:01.40abbat_wheh. plan to try it but don't know are pitbull if usable in pvp ;)
10:02.57Dynomabbat_w: ofc
10:03.15ckknightI've used it in BGs
10:03.32abbat_wah, ok. try it today then
10:03.59DynomI did too, got VERY happy when the feature came when to not show raidframes
10:04.02Loki|muhwhat specifies "useable in pvp"?
10:04.18Dynomand Auras work a lot better now also
10:04.20abbat_wfocus/tot/etc frames
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10:04.28Dynomabbat_w: wirks great
10:04.29abbat_wwith debuff/buff showing
10:04.31Dynomworks even*
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10:05.10Dynomdunnow about buffs showing, but debuffs did (iirc)
10:05.22Dynombut I cba about buffs showing anyway, they don't hurt
10:05.28CIA-1103roartindon * r32339 10Aloft/Modules/Visibility.lua: Aloft: Visibility - Fixed a typo that prevented "Guild Only" mode from working
10:06.12abbat_wckk, are buffs/debuffs have they own timer? like buffalo do?
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10:11.32Fisker-can i roll back changes done by apt-get and stuff pretty easy?
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10:12.16abbat_wAnd btw no new mod like visor2 which allow more functionality (like font/texture changing on frame)?
10:13.40Brunerswill there ever be an ace'ed version of KLHthreatMeter?
10:14.09barfolomeowBruners: short answer.. no atm
10:14.17barfolomeownot klh at least
10:16.12Brunersits the only addon i use now wich is not ace
10:16.55abbat_wand you actually need klh?
10:17.15Brunersi do
10:17.42Brunersif i dont use it the rest of the guild wont se my threat
10:17.58Tornhoofand your guild needs it?
10:18.09Brunersand as a hunter i do produce a lot of threat
10:18.11krkazomg every addon i use must be ace!!!
10:18.34Stephmwkrka: damn straight!
10:18.36Tornhoofand does your guild tell you when to feint death?
10:18.40evl<Bruners> and as a hunter i do produce a lot of threat
10:18.41evllol :D
10:18.46Stephmwkrka: actually... I just like the ace community :)
10:18.50Stephmwkrka: and the svn
10:18.59Brunersevl: well i do :)
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10:19.12abbat_w;)
10:19.17evlrogues produce threat, hunters produce pets
10:19.19BrunersTornhoof: they dont, thats why i use klht
10:19.31Brunersevl: rogues produces dmg
10:19.33Noekoehunters can famr fast herbs for usefull classes :p
10:19.44evlNoekoe: druids farm faster :(
10:20.06Noekoeinvisibilty ftw!
10:20.10Noekoegone threat!
10:20.17Tornhoofyou don't know your class well enough to actually hit the feint death button and diversion button as soon as it's ready?
10:21.10BrunersTornhoof: that is a wasted autoshot/global cooldown
10:21.12CIA-1103ammo * r32340 10PitBull/ (11 files in 10 dirs): PitBull: Global font can now be changed and uses SharedMedia.
10:21.14abbat_wI remove KLH and don't think what i need this mod on my mage
10:21.15Brunersand mana
10:21.21[Ammo]zomg imba pitbull update!
10:21.30Tornhoofso what bruners?
10:21.55evlHunters need some good util tbh
10:21.57evlWaste of raidpsace
10:21.59evlspace*
10:22.07BrunersTornhoof: if i cant do enough dmg i wont be drafted
10:22.18Tornhoofhehe
10:22.30BrunersTornhoof: lying "dead" on the floor gives me 0 dmg
10:22.50DynomAnyone here who want to do a spellcheck for a website?
10:23.05Dynomprefer someone that can write english good
10:23.08Tornhoofyou know that kth does not always work properly?
10:23.10Dynomor at least better then me
10:23.21BrunersTornhoof: it gives me a hint of how much threat i have
10:23.40Tornhoofand you think that hint is more detailed than your knowledge of your class?
10:23.53Noekoepopcorn
10:23.56Fisker-z
10:23.58Fisker-o
10:24.00Fisker-m
10:24.03Fisker-g
10:24.09Fisker-</slowpoke>
10:24.11Mikmaass and fail
10:24.17StephmwNoekoe: I just manage my aggro continuously, without needing invis ;)
10:24.22[Ammo]mikmass
10:24.28Noekoeepends on fight :)
10:24.45Noekoebut id say 90% its pretty useless, but ok to use on alot of fights :)
10:24.48BrunersTornhoof: if the tank gets his aggro gaining stuff resisted and i start shooting on the target i will draw aggro
10:25.12Tornhoofyou might want to actually look at the debuff bar of your target
10:25.19Tornhoofbefore you start shooting like a madman ;)
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10:25.42BrunersTornhoof: you cant rely on sunders only
10:25.51Stephmwthe only time I let lose as a mage is in pvp
10:25.56BrunersTornhoof: and not all tanks spam sunders
10:26.00Stephmwpve it's always about keeping the aggro on the tank
10:26.23Noekoewell 10k threat should give you enough to nuke :)
10:26.32Noekoeatleast forme it does
10:26.32Tornhoofactually there are only a few ways to produce aggro which don't show up in the debuff bar
10:26.36StephmwBruners: aye, our (now 70s) 4-man once found a 70 warrior without it...
10:27.10Tornhoofand if your mt misses all his aggro stuff
10:27.18Tornhoofthe healers probably will get aggro anyway
10:27.20Noekoeget better mt :p
10:27.26Tornhoofyah
10:27.30Noekoemt isnt supposed to miss his specials
10:27.33[Ammo]you can always have fluke misses
10:27.35Tornhoofmaybe one who actually tells you if he missed half his specials
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10:27.43[Ammo]even if you have the best gear
10:27.45Noekoebut not "all"
10:27.50[Ammo]there is always the chance to miss em all
10:27.55Tornhoofon the other hand you shouldn't start nuking after two sunders and one revenge ;)
10:27.56[Ammo]we've had it happen on maulgar pulls
10:28.05[Ammo]once though
10:28.09[Ammo]MT missed everything
10:28.15[Ammo]-> healer aggro
10:28.17Noekoelol badluck :)
10:28.22[Ammo]yeah but it happens
10:28.22Tornhoofyah badluck
10:28.45Brunersbut then again we have misdirection wich boost the mt's aggro :)
10:28.49Tornhoofsee
10:28.55Tornhoofnow use it as often as you can ;)
10:28.57LaricworkI was in kara the other day. When Attumen spawned he went straight for me every time (main healer).. Wasnt pretty
10:29.11Tornhoofhappens
10:29.16syerenWith his charge?
10:29.20syerenAnd his bugged melee on Charge?
10:29.22Noekoeyour class is?
10:29.27Laricworkpriest
10:29.27Noekoei lett no healer but priest heal
10:29.34Noekoeand lett priest use fade at 95%
10:29.39Noekoeworks always
10:29.43Laricworkhe went straight for me immediatly when he spawned
10:29.45BrunersTornhoof: and i dont like to waste my feign death as i use it to drink mana
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10:29.51Noekoeuse fade when he spawns
10:29.56Laricworkhad to get a BoP
10:29.58Tornhoofyou have mana problems as a hunter?
10:30.00BrunersTornhoof: and feign death gets resisted way to often theese days without the tier 4 set bonus
10:30.05LaricworkI did fade didnt help
10:30.11Tornhoofwell it's bugged after all bruners
10:30.15Noekoeresisted?
10:30.25BrunersTornhoof: and yes i have mana problems as a hunter
10:30.34BrunersTornhoof: and that has allways been a problem
10:30.35Laricworkonly resists I get these days is MT resisting my greater heals
10:30.50Tornhoofyou're placing alliance or horde?
10:30.55Brunershorde
10:31.06Tornhoofyou still have mana problems with blessing of wisdom?
10:31.25Tornhoofand a mana pot every once in awhile?
10:31.33BrunersTornhoof: yep
10:31.47steinoBruners: l2shadow priest :PPP
10:31.54steinoand mp5 flask
10:32.00Stephmwhow much mana do you have?
10:32.01Brunerssteino: pfft :)
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10:32.11Brunersaround 7k
10:32.15Brunersunbuffed
10:32.33Brunerssteino: how was tg ?:)
10:32.46steinofun
10:32.53steinothe train trips was long tho :<
10:33.09Brunersi will never ever take the train again
10:33.16Brunerson that distance that is
10:33.34LaricworkI want the bloody mp5 flask discovery
10:33.42steinoits only.. 13h or so
10:33.48steino+ a hour stop in trondheim :o
10:33.57Brunerssteino: we dont use flasks really
10:34.12steinoslackers :p
10:34.27Brunershehe, we havent needed it yet
10:34.37Tornhoofyou're the first hunter i know who gets oom with a common mana pot rotation and bow
10:34.49Brunersbut i guess we will need it in mags lair
10:37.19Brunerssteino: its 13h in a crappy seats
10:37.34steinoBruners: not if you buy sleeping wagon <3
10:37.56steinobut ye, those 9h bodø -> trondheim in those shit seats failed
10:38.07Brunerssteino: why not just use the air if your paying for a sleeping cabin ?
10:38.44steinocause last time i went by air, my comp was busted
10:38.50steinonot doing that again
10:38.57Brunerssteino: norwegian or braathens?
10:39.22steinonorwegian
10:39.35Brunersdont use norwegian when traveling with computers
10:39.54CIA-1103roartindon * r32341 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Small cleanup of recently damaged code.
10:40.01steinoxD
10:40.27Brunerssteino: tbh, i never use norwegian :)
10:41.00Brunerssteino: how far have you got into magtheridon now ?
10:41.36steinoBruners: hmm, not far.. just to the point were he releases
10:41.40steinoand one add left
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10:45.26Laricwork[Ammo] want me to commit the changes I have done to the ABF?
10:46.29Laricworknorwegian is really really bad
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10:47.22Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/Sha%27tar <-vandalism is cruise control for awesome
10:47.39[Ammo]Laricwork: if they're good changes go
10:47.48[Ammo]if not, we'll just have your head for lunch
10:48.55Laricworkhehe
10:50.37Silviu-[Ammo] http://ace.pastey.net/11609
10:50.46ckknightFisker-: valdalism how?
10:51.27[Ammo]Silviu-: will fix
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10:52.09Fisker-it's my anti-vandalism vandalism :P
10:52.14Fisker-i edited teh rep
10:52.18Fisker-cause it was wroong!
10:52.27Fisker-It's whats on wikipedia is called vandalism
10:52.30CIA-1103ammo * r32342 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: ignore updating fonts on non-existing castbars
10:53.54CIA-1103ammo * r32343 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua: PitBull: ignore updating font on nonexisting combatText
10:54.05[Ammo]that should be all of em Silviu-
10:54.34Silviu-Updating & test thank u
10:54.55CIA-1103laric * r32344 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: Changed ABF icon sizes
10:56.18CIA-1103ammo * r32345 10PitBull/Mana/Mana.lua: PitBull: hmm, ignore non-existing manatext for fontupdate as well
10:56.41Punkie`Fisker-: You failed to mention how Sha'tar are EVIL in that wiki
10:57.36Brunersjesus, i managed to order flight ticket the wrong way
10:57.54Laricworkroflmao
11:00.38Fisker-oh yes Punkie`
11:00.45Fisker-but that would be real non-wikipedian vandalism
11:01.29Punkie`you see what they are doing next patch?
11:01.29[Ammo]fisker messed up the rep anyway
11:01.36Punkie`launching a war!
11:01.38[Ammo]the rep bar for fel armaments should be up to revered at least
11:01.41[Ammo]maybe even exalted
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11:01.53Fisker-did not
11:01.59Fisker-I repped up on fel armaments
11:02.07[Ammo]it shows as till honored
11:02.10[Ammo]so you fail
11:02.15Fisker-no
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11:08.18Noekoeanyone else missing Pitbull from Deucecommander since last updates?
11:08.44Silviu-I have it in Niagara
11:09.22Laricworkfel armaments go to exalted
11:09.55[Ammo]it's in niagara because niagara makes an exception
11:10.28IndustrialHow do I group a selection of unites in c&c3 ? its not ctrl-1/0
11:10.34Industrialunits*
11:10.45JoshBorkelol Industrial
11:10.50Fisker-for aldor Silviu-
11:10.58Fisker-and yes it is ctrl+1/0
11:11.09Fisker-unless you rebound it of course
11:11.23Industrial:S
11:11.42Industrialthat just seems to deselect them
11:11.43Silviu-Laricwork now icons are soooo big :P
11:11.58Laricworkhmm
11:12.09Laricworkare icons suffering from different scaling then?
11:12.18Silviu-i have it set to 100%
11:12.31Laricworksince at 0.60 the original ones was itty bitty tiny
11:12.37Laricworkabout 3 pixels
11:12.52[Ammo]they should not suffer from different scaling
11:13.25Laricworkmy scaling on pitbull is 0.60.. my scaling in the game is 0.6
11:13.31[Ammo]but 36x36 for the rest icon is huge
11:13.47Laricworkok will revert it and keep my local copy then :P
11:14.01Silviu-http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041107141448if5.jpg
11:14.06Silviu-I find them a lil big
11:14.12Silviu-Maybe is just me ;)
11:14.28[Ammo]an inbetween value would be best
11:14.49[Ammo]between the original and your adjusted values
11:14.57Laricworkok adjusting
11:15.34[Ammo]or check what sizes agUF used default
11:15.35[Ammo]and use those
11:15.37[Ammo]:)
11:16.17Laricworkis aguf abandoned btw?
11:16.23[Ammo]nope
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11:18.44Punkie`is pitbull usable now? it's raidframes just kept screwing me over all the time
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11:20.05CIA-1103laric * r32346 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: Changed ABF icon sizes to be inbetween
11:21.03Fisker-what is that textuuuuuuuuureeeeeeeee on your casting baaaaaaaaaaar Silviu-?
11:21.11Silviu-LiteStep
11:21.24RoartindonLiiiiiiitestep?
11:21.30Silviu-;))
11:21.54Fisker-oooooooooookkkkkkkkkk
11:21.55Fisker-you hacker
11:22.17Silviu-Why ? ;)
11:22.51Silviu-Laricwork, looks better thank u
11:22.54Punkie`Litestep is horrible for everything except nameplates :(
11:23.14RoartindonIt looks nice on Zealot's nameplates screenshot :)
11:23.22RoartindonI tried using it for other things
11:23.29Roartindonand couldn't really use it :)
11:23.32Brunerslooks good on Sorrentimers
11:23.36Punkie`I use Name Plate Modifier :o
11:23.50Silviu-I have it on DarkCandy, Antagonist .. Ktm, DamageMeters
11:23.52Silviu-;)
11:24.01[Ammo]Aloft is getting a bit better now that there is no more Prat dependancy for proper coloring :p
11:24.16RoartindonAmmo: That was only temporary; the addon is only 4 days old :)
11:24.33Punkie`What's the benefits of Aloft over Name Plates Modifier?
11:24.40RoartindonPunkie: A ton ton more options
11:24.50HealthWhat does it do?
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11:24.52RoartindonCheck the thread on the forums, first page
11:26.20Punkie`does it have to look like z's picture?
11:26.30ZealotOnAStickNo, it doesn't
11:27.04Punkie`here's a question
11:27.15Punkie`name plate modifier does a silly thing for channeled spells
11:27.15ZealotOnAStickIt's had a LOT of options added since that screenshot, in fact.  That was a pretty early version of it.
11:27.29Punkie`instead of counting down it counts up
11:27.35Punkie`does this also count up? :p
11:27.46Roartindonhell no, why would channeled spells count up?
11:28.00Punkie`shrug
11:28.06Punkie`ill probably download this then
11:28.25RoartindonI didn't realise that nameplate modifier showed casting time text on it :)
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11:29.08Punkie`well i always have nameplates turned on, so i downloaded that since it was released quite a while ago
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11:29.34ZealotOnAStickthe Nameplates Modifier author even posted on the Aloft thread.
11:29.37Punkie`does it colour enemies bars dependant on class?
11:30.12RoartindonYes, and it scans BG scoreboards periodically for coloration purposes too
11:30.14ZealotOnAStickanyway, I need to try to get some sleep.
11:30.25RoartindonOh, Shadowed = Shadowd?
11:31.19Fisker-Roartindon !
11:31.24Fisker-I request, i request!
11:31.35Fisker-auto-nameplate display based on combat
11:32.28CIA-1103helium * r32347 10LootAlert/core.lua:
11:32.28CIA-11LootAlert:
11:32.28CIA-11- more zhTW locale update
11:32.47RoartindonI'm undecided on that one yet :) There are addons that already do this (FuBar ones too) - that will work with Aloft
11:33.18CIA-1103helium * r32348 10Mendeleev/locales/zhTW.lua:
11:33.18CIA-11Mendeleev:
11:33.18CIA-11- updated zhTW locale, fixed wrong translation, again, sorry.
11:33.27Fisker-Well addons don't show friendly nameplates automatically
11:33.36Fisker-only enemy ones :o
11:33.42Healthdude
11:33.43Fisker-and since you can show both i'd like for it to show both
11:33.44ZealotOnAStickI think Autoplates has an option for it.
11:33.46HealthThat's a client setting
11:33.49ZealotOnAStickI could be wrong, though.
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11:35.20Fisker-i see no client setting for it
11:35.21Fisker-:o
11:35.46Punkie`keybindings
11:35.47HealthI set it to shift+v to show friendly target.. check key bindings
11:35.49ZealotOnAStickThere's 3 keybind settings for it.
11:36.00ZealotOnAStickEnemy Only, Friendly Only, and All.
11:36.05Fisker-oh
11:36.12ZealotOnAStickDefaults to V, Shift V, and Ctrl-V I believe.
11:36.39Fisker-all name plates wasn't bound here ><
11:37.16Fisker-nevermind then Roartindon
11:37.44Fisker-feel free to put it in anyways though :P
11:39.54sbu<3 aloft
11:41.18CIA-1103helium * r32349 10StatLogicLib/StatLogicLib.toc: StatLogicLib: Prepare for StandaloneLibraries
11:42.09CIA-1103helium * r32350 10TipHookerLib/TipHookerLib.toc: TipHookerLib: Prepare for StandaloneLibraries
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11:44.13Fisker-w hookers ftw
11:44.35Punkie`?
11:45.14RoartindonZealot: pnig
11:45.16Roartindonping*
11:45.43RoartindonZealotOnAStick: ping [with full name, in case you have scripts to trigger]
11:46.07ZealotOnAStickRoartindon: pong
11:46.20RoartindonYou mentioned SharedMedia SetGlobal problems...
11:46.25RoartindonI only just noticed; I think they're all fixed
11:46.39RoartindonI'm more curious about what you use to set sharedMedia globals?
11:46.54ZealotOnAStickYeah.  I wasn't really sure if that was an issue with Aloft per se, or if it was disagreeing with SurfaceControl, or what.
11:46.56RoartindonThe only way I could think of for testing was AceLibrary("SharedMedia-1.0"):SetGlobal("statusbar", "Blah")
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11:48.02ZealotOnAStickIt didn't seem to actually impair any functionality with anything I could tell, so I just posted the buggrabber stack and went on with a disappointing raid evening.
11:48.27RoartindonIt occured while I was modularizing everything
11:48.32RoartindonIt used to be one big Aloft.lua file
11:48.50RoartindonBut it's far far neater now, with every module separated out so all the logic is easier to follow
11:49.08RoartindonAnd at the time, I think the hook for SetGlobal was pointing to stuff that was no longer in the big file
11:49.21RoartindonI think I've got it all right now in all of the sub files; updating all of their respective textures properly
11:49.34ZealotOnAStick*nod nod* Thanks for letting me know.
11:49.58RoartindonCurious about SurfaceControl
11:50.02Roartindonwhere do I get it?
11:50.16ZealotOnAStickOne of my guildmates asked me last night about Aloft ("some nameplate mod") because he saw the screenshot from one of our raids.
11:50.34ZealotOnAStickAt the top, as it's like !!SurfaceControl or something.
11:50.43ZealotOnAStickmaybe only one !, I forget.
11:51.33ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.wowace.com/files/!SurfaceControl/!SurfaceControl-r31069.9.zip
11:51.52LaricworkRoartindon can you control what units do get a nameplate and wich don't?
11:51.53ZealotOnAStickOr presumably near the tip-top of Trunk on the svn.
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11:53.19RoartindonLaric: At the moment, there are some options, but not particularly detailed
11:53.31Roartindoneg. for friendly nameplates, you can show only guild members, or group members, all or none
11:53.48LaricworkLike for instance in AQ20.. it would be nice to have nameplates on friendly npc
11:53.50Roartindonit has an option for disabling nameplates for level 1 neutral vermin found in dungeons
11:54.04RoartindonLaric: Yeaha, you can do that too
11:54.13Laricworknice
11:54.21RoartindonThe top two menu options of Aloft are Show nameplates and Show Friendly nameplates
11:54.32RoartindonThe Visibility module down the list provides finer control where needed.
11:54.41Laricworkguess I will have to check it out a bit
11:55.17Roartindonhmm.. re: surfacecontrol.. I think I'll do without it, and hope that all addons become SharedMediaLibbed soon :)
11:56.06LaricworkRoartindon stupid question but Aloft.. what does the name refer to? or is it another just a name addonname?
11:56.15snirksexit
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11:56.27ZealotOnAStickSurfaceControl works with SML as well.
11:56.48RoartindonLaric: Just randomly chosen, because I wanted to start work on it and needed a name :)
11:57.22RoartindonI'm so lacking in creativity, that if I pondered about the name as long as I wanted to, it'd probably be another week before I'd get the first line of code done :)
11:57.22ZealotOnAStickBut the point of the mod is just to force all the SurfaceLib/SML using mods to use one texture without having to set it everywhere.
11:57.32ZealotOnAStickI kinda like Aloft, actually.
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11:58.28RoartindonI first went to the thesaurus and started looking for words like "halo", then tags, then other stuff.. and didn't like any of them... but then just chose Aloft :)
11:58.51Punkie`You should have called it Noodle
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12:01.22RoartindonI kind of wondered what ckknight/clad/etc would have done if I committed it called "Addon" :)
12:01.31Punkie`hehehehh
12:01.51ckknightI'd smash your face in
12:02.19ckknightface-smashing is an easy out for most of life's problems
12:03.04Laricwork''This article is about an album called Smash. See also the definition of the word  and the brand of mashed potato mix known as Smash''
12:03.04Laricwork''Smash'' is The Offspring's third album, released on April 19, 1994. ''Smash'' sold more than 11 million copies world wide and broke The Offspring into the mainstream, along with pop punk bands like blink-182, Rancid and Green Day.
12:03.07LaricworkThe album peaked at #4 on Billboard's pop albums charts and #1 on the Heatseeker's chart.  Signed to Epitaph Records, The Offspring's surprise success made the indie label one of the most promising ones in the United States, performing better than thought possible for an indie-released album.  "Come Out and Play (Keep 'Em Separated)", with its mixture of Middle-Eastern rhythms, punk energy and anthemic chorus, became a huge hit single and one of the ba
12:03.13Laricwork:P
12:03.15Laricworkdamned trillian
12:03.25ckknightlol.
12:04.06ZealotOnAStickI remember when I first discovered Blink-182.
12:04.26ZealotOnAStickI lived in Austin, and someone left this big stack of Blink-182 CD singles in the apartment complex's laundry room.
12:04.56ZealotOnAStickThey had 1 song on there, and I forget what it was called, but it was basically a near-constant string of profanities interrupted with "Father" or something.
12:05.04ZealotOnAStickPretty amusing.
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12:26.02break19ZealotOnAStick: well of course it had 1 song.. thats why it was a single.. /dcc send ZealotOnAStick sign.txt
12:26.02ZealotOnASticktraditionally most "singles" have more than 1 song, though, or at least have more than 1 version of the song.
12:26.16break19that 'tradition' began with CDs. :p
12:26.19ZealotOnAStick45 singles had 2 sides, with either 2 songs, or 2 versions of the song.  Most CD singles have 3-4 songs.
12:26.26break191 song tho
12:26.32ZealotOnAStickno, that traditional began with VINYL.
12:26.44break1945s I used to have only had 1 song, two times.
12:27.33kenlyricThere's even a name for the other song. B-side. Because the record had A and B sides.
12:27.38break19speakin of ole times.. my granparents had a windup phonograph in their living room.. and it still worked.
12:28.05ZealotOnAStickhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_(music)
12:28.20kenlyricI own a few records, but haven't found a working record player in a decade to play them on.
12:28.23break19ZealotOnAStick, kenlyric: i stand by my statement, most of the 45s I had as a kid had *one* song, usually the other side was an instrumental or something
12:28.42kenlyricyour singles were broken and cheap :)
12:28.52kenlyric<PROTECTED>
12:28.54ZealotOnAStickThe vinyl singles are where the whole "B-sides" thing came from.
12:29.28kenlyrichttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-side
12:29.34sbu(what is a vinyl? :p)
12:29.41kenlyricit's like a rubber, but thicker.
12:29.49Stephmwsbu: that shows your age if nothing else does :)
12:30.03break19yea, if ya listen to enough vinyls, you will lose the urge to have sex..
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12:30.29sbucan i play them with my blue-ray player? :/
12:30.41kenlyricmy pearl jam fan club single still comes in vinyl every year. I wait for someone online to rip it and distribute it :)
12:30.48kenlyricsbu: yes, yes you can.
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12:30.53sbu;)
12:31.10[Ammo]I own a record player
12:31.11[Ammo]it works
12:31.19vodringrats
12:31.22[Ammo]and I still play my iron maiden, ac/dc, venom etc
12:31.29[Ammo]makes for great sunday mornings
12:31.47[Ammo]coffee, vinyl and a couch
12:32.10break19welp. off to the courthouse.
12:34.48chutwiglittle morning jailhouse poontang
12:34.49xyuand then jail!
12:35.32chutwigit is waaaaaaay too early to be conscious
12:36.00xyuhave a shot of something hard
12:36.04CIA-1103trh * r32351 10VanasKoS/ (3 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: fixed toc
12:36.24xyuDoes VanasKoS have an autokos yet?
12:36.35trh_it has a "add last attacker" function
12:36.42xyuthanks
12:36.59xyuthat might still be too much work on my part.
12:37.02xyu:P
12:37.26[Ammo]you hate everyone that kills you?
12:37.38xyui dont hate.  i just know i need to kill them
12:37.40xyuwhenever isee them
12:37.50xyuand then camp their dead bodies
12:37.58trh_xyu: it's one click if you use the fubar_vanaskosfu plugin ;)
12:37.59[Ammo]but that's default behaviour
12:38.09[Ammo]if it's red, it's dead, if it resists, corpsecamp it
12:38.14sbuyay, job interview next week
12:38.51xyuyeah trh, but epeen does it automatically.  There's just a few things i liked more in Vanas ^^  the automatic is important though
12:38.54xyuor i become lenient
12:38.58mitch0sbu: where to?
12:41.56xyuMy PT3bar isn't putting mage conjured water first.   Would i need to re-order text in the cfg.lua?
12:42.38[Ammo]you'll have to sacrifice a virgin for the conjured water to be first. I suggest taking Fisker- out back.
12:43.11xyuFisker-: you heard him, get over here.
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12:50.24[Ammo]xyu: I suggest changing the order in Config.lua
12:50.24CIA-1103roartindon * r32352 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua CoreModules/ClassData.lua):
12:50.24CIA-11Aloft
12:50.24CIA-11- Made playerClasses persistent. Options to be created later
12:50.24CIA-11- Slight change/optimization in initial gathering of frames
12:51.33chutwigahhhh patch notes
12:53.33HealthWhere?
12:53.36HealthLINK!!!!!!!XXXXXXX
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12:54.17Mikma~seen nargiddley
12:54.42purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 10h 39s ago, saying: 'i'll give it a go, no promises tho'.
12:55.09Mikmapurl: botmsg to nargiddley: contact Mikma or Haste ASAP!
12:55.20hasteno, not haste :(
12:55.22hasteI don't give a shit
12:55.33Mikmatoo bad i ass and failed
12:55.53Healthchutwig: lixnnxn
12:56.10chutwigHealth: gridhrirh they're on my guild's private forums
12:56.12Mikmapurl: message to nargiddley: contact Mikma ASAP. Baggings sucks.
12:56.20Mikma<1556> [freenode] <purl> OK, mikma, I'll let nargiddley know.
12:56.21chutwighere is one that makes my stomach sink, though
12:56.22Mikmathere we go
12:56.22chutwig"“Frenzied Regeneration†now converts 20 points of rage into 10% of total health per second for 5 sec."
12:56.26chutwigugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ughhhhhhhhhh
12:56.47Healthwtf
12:56.48chutwigthat on a 3-minute cooldown is hugely overpowered
12:57.00HealthThere are like 3 different sets of patch notes out
12:57.04vodrinfake patch notes again? wooo
12:57.24CodayusA 50% heal on a 3 minute cooldown?  Heh
12:57.29CodayusPull the other one, it's got BELLS on.
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12:57.55chutwignot even druid-love blizzard would do that
12:58.09chutwigunless caydiem threatened to flirt with one of the devs if he didn't massively buff druids
12:59.21CodayusI could believe it if it was a 10% heal OVER 5 seconds...but I've been burned by fake patch notes before.  :-)
13:00.16CodayusAnything about priests?  I could use a laugh.
13:00.25CodayusPlus, it's always a good way to tell fake patch notes.
13:00.31CodayusIf it doesn't contain a large priest nerf, they're fake.
13:00.47Codayus(Bitter? Me?)
13:00.51Punkie`or you could just ask him to link them :p
13:01.05Codayus12:56 < chutwig> Health: gridhrirh they're on my guild's private forums
13:01.11Mikmaumm, how can i move PT3Bar?
13:01.18Punkie`pastey them?
13:01.20chutwigCodayus: shadow reach has 5/10% threat reduction, so yeah, definitely fake
13:01.22[Ammo]check the code mikma :p
13:01.27CodayusFAKE.  :-)
13:01.41chutwigmore like
13:01.47Punkie`chutwig: pastey them, im bored and need to read them!
13:02.01chutwigIncreases range of all shadow spells by 3/6 yards and increases threat generated by 200/400%.
13:02.15Fisker-what fake patchnotes?
13:02.35ZealotOnAStickMikma: /pt3 lock
13:02.43trh_the profession preview notes are interesting
13:02.47Mikmabut i don't want to move the buttons 1 by 1
13:02.48ZealotOnAStickI think each button moves independantly though.
13:03.00vhaarrMikma: /pt3bar snap
13:03.09Fisker-i want soem fukken pastey.
13:03.14chutwighttp://pastey.net/11623
13:03.16chutwigthere
13:03.22Codayus<3
13:03.48Mikmavhaarr: that worked nicely
13:03.55vodrin“Clever Traps” now also increases the damage of “Snake Trap” by 15/30% against flying targets
13:04.00vodrinthats the olllld fake patch notes
13:04.03CodayusOh, those.
13:04.04CodayusOLD
13:04.07chutwigOLD
13:04.08Fisker-damnit chutwig
13:04.09CodayusSaw them, like, 2 weeks ago?
13:04.10Fisker-they're OLD
13:04.11vhaarrold indeed
13:04.13Fisker-OLD
13:04.14Punkie`OLDDDDD
13:04.14ZealotOnAStickThey're fake.
13:04.16CodayusI wanted NEW LAUGHS
13:04.18chutwigFisker-: i bring treacherous jokes
13:04.29Fisker-QQ
13:04.29Punkie`Fisker-: let's beat him
13:04.36vhaarrhttp://pastey.net/11284
13:04.41vodrinanyway to increase the nameplate distance ?
13:04.43vhaarr^ new laughs
13:04.44CodayusThey're decent fakes though.
13:04.45ZealotOnAStickLemme find the ones that are supposedly real ...
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13:04.55Fisker-nah
13:05.00Fisker-spybot work all over it
13:05.01ZealotOnAStickno, they're extremely non-believable.
13:05.04Fisker-and KDM() = caydiem
13:05.20chutwigcaydiem makes me mad
13:05.24chutwigstupid munter
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13:05.31CodayusZealotOnAStick: Well, I was thinking of the bug fixes and stuff.  Too good to be true, BUT the structure was decent I thought.
13:05.51ZealotOnAStickhttp://pastey.net/11284-287t
13:06.09vhaarrI just pasted that 2 minutes ago.
13:06.13Codayusvhaarr: Those are decent.  Nerf to SW:Death, buffs to binding heal and CoH?  Sounds like Bliz humor to me.
13:06.15vodrinif that ^_^
13:06.16ZealotOnAStickThey're entirely too good to be true, which is a sure sign of fake.
13:06.34ZealotOnAStickoh, I didn't see that vhaarr.
13:06.45vhaarrCodayus: Actually I think the Binding Heal and CoH buffs have been confirmed.
13:06.49CodayusAnd they tossed in a nerf to rumsey rum, which is blizz all over.
13:06.52CodayusHave they?  Heh
13:06.58vhaarrNot that it matters.
13:07.02vhaarrThe spells still suck.
13:07.03CodayusYeah
13:07.05chutwigtwo spells that nobody ever uses
13:07.10CodayusChances of me putting binding heal on my bar?  0%
13:07.15CodayusChances of me respeccing to get CoH?  0%
13:07.19vhaarrAnd I can't get CoH without losing Divine Spirit, so there's no fucking way in hell I'm speccing it to even try it.
13:07.44CodayusI specced to it, I tried it.  I laughed.  BITTERLY
13:07.54vhaarrI can tell it's shit by reading the tooltip.
13:07.56Mikmaumm, is there anything better out there than PT3Bar
13:08.04vhaarrMikma: AutoBar=?
13:08.06chutwigone of our priests likes to use it
13:08.14vhaarrchutwig: He sucks.
13:08.30Codayus"Okay, if 5 people are taking...a TINY bit of damage...and I can't cast PoH because we're....running in circles....then CoH...could be useful?  But only if its a REALLY tiny amount of damage."
13:08.31chutwigvhaarr: she does have a remarkable proclivity towards dying repeatedly during bosses
13:08.38vhaarr:P
13:08.44chutwigspends more time in improved death than alive
13:09.01vhaarrIf CoH healed people across groups, it could be useful in some fights.
13:09.04vodrinfemale though so np
13:09.06vhaarrUntil that happens, it's useless.
13:09.20Codayus(Well, okay, there's the cross healing aspect.  Maybe for...uh...Curator?  Yeah...)
13:09.25CodayusNOT
13:09.27vhaarr:P
13:09.51vhaarrThe SW:D nerf, even if true, doesn't bother me though.
13:09.57CodayusHmm
13:09.59vhaarrI only use it to get my PoM of myself anyway :P
13:10.02chutwigmaybe it's because fully buffed she has like 7k hp and dies hilariously
13:10.03ZealotOnAStickNerf to Rumsey Rum?  Bah, I considered it more "one less buff food I have to farm now" and I can just buy the rum instead.
13:10.17CodayusHeh
13:10.18chutwigyou have to try hard to get less than 9k hp now when raid buffed
13:10.31Codayus....
13:10.43Codayus7.3k raid buffed...with a green of stamina item.
13:10.44vodrinyeah .. 15 stacks of that stuff on an alt
13:10.48vodrinpls don't nerf :<
13:10.50chutwiglet me put it this way
13:10.50[Ammo]almost 11k with only my imp :)
13:11.00chutwig7k health with imp, fort, and commanding shout
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13:11.10[Ammo]14k or so raidbuffed properly :)
13:11.20chutwigyeah, i get up to like 14.3k with CS
13:11.25CodayusGah
13:11.39CodayusArans pyroblast is always a real moment of truth for me.  :-(
13:11.45vodringuessing you have dem embrace ? :p
13:11.50ZealotOnAStickI just respecced monday night after raid then.  Went 44/0/17.
13:11.51chutwigwho doesn't
13:11.55[Ammo]yeah demo embrace and the fel stamina talent
13:11.59[Ammo]or the other +hp talent
13:12.03chutwigexcept crazy people who think 40/0/21 is the way to go
13:12.10ZealotOnAStickGiving it a try, might go for 45/5/11 if I don't like it much, or back to 40/0/21.
13:12.11[Ammo]am 16 demo, rest in affliction
13:12.16chutwigi champion 44/17/0 constantly
13:12.30chutwigthe lack of shadowburn sucks a bit but i deal
13:12.42vodrin43/0/18 \o/
13:12.57[Ammo]500 drain lifes in a raid makes up for it :p
13:13.02[Ammo]500+ I should say
13:13.03chutwigyeah
13:13.17chutwigmakes me feel like a shadow priest with the constant melting
13:13.20vodrinseen some 1k ticks with everything proc'ing =p
13:13.43CodayusI should finish leveling my lock
13:13.45vhaarrI think my renew ticks close to 1k on warlocks with that new fel armor thingy
13:13.46CodayusLooks like fun...
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13:13.55chutwigour shadow priest is awol for a few weeks and that makes me a sad panda
13:14.09chutwigwell, i guess he's not awol if we know where he is
13:14.14CodayusWell
13:14.17vodrini spec'd immonerate build when that happened to us =p
13:14.20chutwigthe point is that he's not raiding and >:( >:(
13:14.27CodayusTechnically...did you give him permission to not raid?  :-)
13:14.42vhaarrchutwig: doesn't matter if you know where he is, it's "Absent Without Leave", which means you left without asking if you could leave or not.
13:14.51ZealotOnAStickAlso, right now, there's some bug with a Paladin thing and UA where it causes people to be healed for lots.
13:14.55chutwigvhaarr: thank you my fine norwegian friend
13:15.10CodayusOur top shadow priest is going on break in a few weeks for summer holidays.  It's going to *suck*.
13:15.22chutwigi'm going to start stealing +fire gear from the mages
13:15.29vodrinjust go fire and beat the mages in blue gear
13:15.38vodrinmaking them sad and cry
13:15.38chutwigi beat the mages anyway
13:15.53chutwigi lose to the melee on gruul because they all get goa and windfury
13:15.54vodrinyes but its more hurtful when beating them with fire
13:16.19chutwigmy crit on gear is pretty bad because i'm geared for affliction
13:16.28chutwigcan't keep up with their 40% crit scorch spam
13:16.29[Ammo]yeah my crit is sucky as well
13:16.38vodrinhad to wear plagueheart shoulders/boots + bloodfyre robes oh noes
13:16.45vodrinand crit isn't that good for fire spec
13:16.45[Ammo]but I'm an affliction whore so I'll stay affliction
13:16.50vodrinstill want to be hit capped first =p
13:17.15chutwigbut i was still above all the mages last night
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13:17.42chutwigunfortunately for me everyone who puts raid makeups together is melee and so they tend to favor them
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13:17.50vodrinthey need to undo the nerf to imp firebolt/frostbolt
13:17.57chutwigso they get windfury and other wonderful things and i'm left there wanting wrath of air
13:18.34Codayusheh
13:18.47chutwigi'm still usually the highest-damage caster
13:19.12chutwigand when the shadow priest comes back i'll be the highest-damage caster plus 15% :3
13:22.18add\\Leialyn"they need to undo the nerf to imp firebolt/frostbolt" <- definitely
13:22.38add\\Leialynthey did with cs on gcd, so now this is left ^^
13:23.26chutwigoh just double pyroblast's coefficient so that the few frost mage holdouts will just respec to be 3-minute mages like everyone else
13:23.29chutwigproblem solved
13:23.41add\\Leialynrofl
13:24.09add\\Leialyndoesn't Pyro get a higher coefficent already? Like Soulfire got before it was nerfed
13:24.34chutwigunless they've modified it it should be cast time / 3.5
13:24.42chutwigand i think the last time i used soulfire was at level 53 or so
13:24.55vodrinheh
13:24.59chutwigwhen i two-shot some rogue
13:25.08vodrinhuge crits were nice before it was dropped down to 200%
13:25.09add\\LeialynSoulfire had this cast time / 3.5 but it was nerfed to 100% or so ...
13:25.16vodrinone-shot quite a few people before that =p
13:25.28chutwigi had ruin so i think i hit them for like 1.8k
13:25.33Roartindonheh.. then you'll think back to the days of double trinkets, and vulnerability bonuses :)
13:25.36chutwigwhich at level 52 was friggin' huge
13:25.39vodrinwasn't it 6/3.5 and now its 4/3.5 ?
13:25.47vodrinlike its expected to have bane on it to be casted
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13:25.48add\\Leialyndunno
13:26.01add\\Leialynbut casttime reduce stuff doesn't lower it ... unless for mages ;P
13:26.06vodrinCoD was better pre-nerf though ;d
13:26.35mitch0add\\Leialyn: actually, it does. (at least for frostbolt and fireball)
13:26.36add\\Leialynand if they leave imp fb/fb stuff ... then imp corruption and bane needs to be adjusted as well ;F
13:26.57add\\Leialynthats what I said mitch0
13:27.01mitch0ah
13:27.08vodrinno wai =o
13:27.17vodrinthen everyone would just go incinerate =p
13:27.29vodrinand then they have to nerf dem sacrifice ? :<
13:27.40chutwigi do like watching incinerate snake about
13:27.47vodrin^^
13:27.57vodrindo like airing inferno waist cord every so often
13:27.58chutwigbut since i'm affliction now i have banished immolate and incinerate to the farthest reaches of my interface
13:28.19mitch0the imp frostbolt/fireball nerf is really beyond me. not that I'd cry sleepless nights over it, just really don't understand why they did it ;)
13:28.31HealthWhere is the patchnotes?
13:28.38Healthare
13:29.04vodrinnowhere
13:29.17chutwigcaydiem's gaping vag
13:29.18evlsome on ming
13:29.21evlthat's just fake as a fiddle
13:29.25evlwww.worldofming.com
13:29.45chutwigokay STV is probably safe at 9:30 in the morning
13:30.39vodrin- Divine Shield cooldown increased to 1 Hour.
13:30.39vodrin- Lay on Hands cooldown reduced to 5 Minutes.
13:30.41vodrinhaha?
13:30.55CodayusHeh
13:31.00chutwigthat would be so awesome
13:33.46chutwigahh pitbull's font changed and confused me because now it looks pretty much exactly like aguf
13:34.00Fisker-What potions can i use for my paladin other than superior mana oil and mana potions?
13:34.19Roartindonmana regen
13:34.19chutwigwizard oil!
13:34.20Health16 mp5
13:34.35ZealotOnAStickrestoration flask.
13:34.43ZealotOnAStickhealing elixirs
13:35.06Codayushealing elixer is the big one
13:35.08CodayusMageblood elixer
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13:35.22Codayus(Don't forget food buffs - sporefish and fish sticks)
13:35.54RoartindonOh oh oh...
13:35.57Roartindonnoggenfogger elixir
13:36.03copystringlol
13:36.14Fisker-ah fuck
13:36.24Fisker-i have to manually press enchant for all my mana oils
13:36.25StephmwRoartindon: yeah, only noticed the new cooldown on that
13:36.36StephmwRoartindon: 2 bloody minutes now
13:36.47Fisker-was funny how it was nerfed
13:37.10chutwigat least you can spam it more now to get the buff you want
13:37.12chutwigeven if that's damn expensive
13:37.19Stephmwchutwig: no, you can't
13:37.28chutwigoh they changed that?
13:37.30Fisker-they changed it back to 2 minutes cooldown
13:37.31Stephmwchutwig: 2min cooldown on noggenfogger
13:37.33Fisker-hehehe
13:37.33chutwigfuck that
13:37.38Stephmwaye
13:37.39Roartindonused to be 3sec cooldown
13:37.40Roartindonnow 2 min
13:37.52chutwigspam spam spam spam until i got mini skeleton
13:37.53Fisker-they did it because people could pwn their content by flying to tempest keep with noggenfoggers
13:38.15Stephmwtaurens found it useful to not stand out so much in PVP, but fighting gnome mages that small was a hassle
13:39.00ZealotOnAStickI miss when you could stack noggenfogger + world enlarger + shrink ray.
13:39.10Fisker-hehe yeah
13:39.10chutwigoh man
13:39.13Fisker-they always nerf fun
13:39.16chutwigblazing speed is awesome
13:39.18CodayusTrue
13:40.34chutwigunless it's warlocks
13:40.36chutwigimmune to nerf
13:41.00evlI'm immune to nerf
13:41.05evlI buff myself with purplez
13:41.14evland just wait stealthed until you have 10% hp
13:41.15chutwigi buff myself with awesome
13:41.16evland then i attack
13:41.30evlI buff myself with Sparta
13:42.37chutwiglawl
13:42.42chutwigmy 35 mage just killed this 41 warlock
13:42.52chutwigthey killed me when they soulstoned but damn, they still sucked
13:43.36ZealotOnAStickIf I go dig back far enough, I've got a screenshot somewhere of an Orc shaman in my old guild that had the shrinks stacked, he's standing next to a tauren and he's about the height of the tauren's foot.
13:44.04StephmwZealotOnAStick: now imagine that kind of size difference with a gnome
13:44.05evlWell, last week I took the most epic screenshot ever taken
13:44.15evlI first-blood'ed BassHunter in DOTA while chatting on Ventrilo
13:44.15chutwignoggenfogger reduced my paladin to imp size
13:44.17vodrinmechanar is fun when that shrink ray stacks
13:44.24evlMy whole internet expoded cause it was so awesome
13:44.39Stephmwevl: and yet you managed to get on irc?
13:45.03ZealotOnAStickI liked double-shrinking myself and then mounting up on my dreadsteed and riding around tiny and looking super-fast and being smaller than my imp (mounted)
13:45.03evl100$ computers
13:45.11Health$100*
13:45.18evlHealth: diaf
13:45.46Fisker-so
13:45.56Punkie`so?
13:45.58evlyeah, it's getting boring here, anyone got any fake patchnotes?
13:46.06Fisker-I got mats for 60 adept's, 60 healing and 60 mageblood
13:46.16Fisker-and a elixir master will give me them + surplus
13:46.18Fisker->:O
13:46.27Punkie`wow, amazing
13:46.39ZealotOnAStick* ckknight's mom patched to drop epic kneepads.
13:46.42Punkie`shame in 2.1 you can only use 1 defensive elixir
13:46.43evlI saw a screen of this kid who made 12 flasks of assault from 3x mats
13:46.45Fisker-do want amirite?
13:46.45deltronalchemy has got a nerf incoming
13:46.47deltronheh
13:47.04Fisker-it'll take months for 2.1 to come anyways
13:47.14evl:(
13:47.21CodayusQuestion:  Will the 2.1 elixer nerf make herbs A) More Expensive B) Less Expensive?
13:47.31CodayusFor some reason, my guildies seem to be divided 50/50.
13:47.35Punkie`less?
13:47.50evlThere should be a way of smoking the surplus herbs during raids.
13:47.52vodrinterocone .. more
13:47.53Fisker-i'll guess less
13:47.57Fisker-imo
13:48.00ZealotOnAStickherbs used in certain flasks, more.  Everything else, less.
13:48.05CodayusHmm
13:48.12Punkie`i love terocone
13:48.20GagorianFlasks will be used more, so I agree with ZealotOnAStick
13:48.20Punkie`but i love manathistle more
13:48.23CodayusMats for +dmg and +ap flasks a lot more...I bet.
13:48.33Punkie`its like 100g a stack for mana thistle on my server
13:48.34ZealotOnAStickblack lotus and fel lotus will climb back up.  Terocone . . . mana thistle.
13:48.47CodayusTerocone...hm.  Which flask is it used for?
13:48.51Punkie`assault
13:48.53chutwigtoo many of them
13:48.55CodayusOuch.
13:48.55vodrinmastery
13:49.11CodayusYeah, terocone is used for...agi, def, and mastery elixers I think?
13:49.15ZealotOnAStickFlask, not Elixir.
13:49.20CodayusSo that'll cut SOME demand for it.
13:49.28Punkie`what
13:49.43Punkie`terocone is easy to get!
13:49.50DynomDirty beats 'n dirty samples
13:49.56CodayusPunkie`: Farmed like HELL on my server.
13:49.58ZealotOnAStickMany in my guild are betting on the results of this being "ok, so reduced elixir usage, but we'll pretty much HAVE to always have flasks for almost any raiding"
13:50.18Punkie`Codayus: Don't tell me you spend time farming the forest for it
13:50.25CodayusNope, I'm a miner.  :-)
13:50.27chutwigZealotOnAStick: their "fix" was "now you use fewer pots because it's hardcoded in that you can't have more than 2 elixirs!  ha ha!"
13:50.30ZealotOnAStickWhich doesn't bug me too much, other than I've always SUCKED at getting Black Lotus.
13:50.49ZealotOnAStickdreamfoil and silversage are cake now.
13:50.55Punkie`urgh
13:50.57CodayusLesse, terocone is used for... Major Agi, Major Defense, Mastery, Fel Strength, Haste, Heroic, and Insane Strength.
13:50.58Punkie`i hate the sage
13:51.08CodayusAnd the AP flask.
13:51.11hasteSageman
13:51.41CodayusSo yeah, I'm guessing any reduction in use in AP elixers will be made up for in use in AP flasks.  Also, mana thistle and all lotus prices are going to suck SO MUCH.
13:51.47Punkie`how much is mana tistle on your servers?
13:52.19chutwiglike 60g a stack
13:52.35Punkie`cheap
13:52.47Punkie`terocone is 50g a stack on mine
13:53.13Punkie`when i log on i just fly up and pick like 1-2 thistles
13:53.44Punkie`like 5-10g for free
13:53.48Fisker-SAGE! haste
13:54.11Fisker-fail @ people who say "age" though for to upper
13:54.23Fisker-unless age = japanese or whatever sage is for to upper
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13:58.04knarf-Anyone doing asp.net webpages in here? :>
13:58.33chutwigi was a .net programmer a few years ago but i purged my mind after i left
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13:59.01knarf-hehe
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13:59.47knarf-Was jsut wondering if anyone had tried adding .aspx pages and aspx.cs files while the application is running and have had any success with it being compiled by the server :)
13:59.50knarf-just*
14:00.17chutwigyou mean like copying them by hand?
14:01.05knarf-I guess you could call it that, i'm trying to generate pages dynamicly so to say :)
14:03.43Fisker-Not here
14:07.23Fisker-So don't cry for me tonight cause i'm gonna rape you
14:07.53StephmwFisker-: you back to molesting meatballs?
14:08.20Stephmwknarf-: isn't that behaviour dependent on server options?
14:08.31knarf-Stephmw no idea :P
14:08.47Stephmwknarf-: I know most production servers tend to have such reloading behaviour disabled :)
14:08.56Stephmwknarf-: automatic reloads/recompiles that is
14:09.04CIA-1103ominous * r32353 10PoisonMenu/ (Core.lua PoisonMenu.toc): PoisonMenu: BugFixes
14:09.08knarf-Can I force a recompile ?
14:09.15Fisker-of course
14:09.19Fisker-just rebuild the solution?
14:09.42knarf-then it is not dynamic ^^
14:10.02Fisker-that's why i told you i didn't think it was possible :P
14:10.10OminousJJSheets: what is the textstub option to display cooldown
14:10.21JJSheetsnot in yet.
14:10.24Fisker-Although you could technically run a script that recompiles on order/date?
14:10.40JJSheetsand OmniCC isn't smart enough to handle InfiniBar's page changing.
14:10.54Fisker-aww
14:10.58knarf-Fisker- I'm trying to make something modular, thus I wanted to be able to add aspx pages "on the fly" so to say :)
14:10.59Fisker-less QQ more pew pew
14:11.33OminousJJSheets: also itemcounts dont work for macros
14:11.40JJSheetsk
14:12.08Ominousalso a suggestion: can you force an itemcount to show for blind and vanish etc
14:13.03JJSheetsI'll have to dust off one of my mid level rogues to test, but yeah I'll add it.
14:13.09Ominousyay
14:13.16Dynomhmm, my gf just mms'ed me a pic from a few shoppingbags with the logo's of hunkermuler and esprite on it, I wonder what 's supposed to mean
14:13.39JJSheetsOminous, You experiencing any weird cooldown issues when stealthing and unstealthing, or changing actionbar pages
14:13.39[Ammo]Dynom: SEX!
14:13.54Dynomyeh but shes shopping with one of her friends
14:13.56OminousJJSheets: havent been paying attn
14:13.56kenlyricas in, figure it out, or you don't get any.
14:14.26JJSheetsplease do so... let me know if the graphic cooldown spinner frame messes up for you at all.
14:14.28OminousJJSheets: also one thing that drives me mad, please add a push texture
14:15.12xyuPT3bar question: how do i get mage conjured water to be the priority?  do i edit the cfg.lua ?
14:15.20sbuDynom: well - ask her to mms you some other pics - from the changing room :/
14:15.35Dynomsbu: yeah, was kinda thinking that too
14:16.35kenlyricno, from her friends changing rooms
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14:16.48Dynomwell they change together anyway
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14:17.18JJSheetssedatedChipmunk, ping.  You still having the issue?  I DLed OmniCC this morning, I see what you're talking about in regards to that, but it's a fallacy of OmniCC imho.
14:17.24Dynomwell sms sent, I wonder what the outcome is
14:18.16thecookiefunneh!
14:18.21Heakthnice
14:18.24sbuuhm - you asked for her friends? :p
14:18.51kenlyricoh god! somebody listened to what they heard on IRC and implemented it in real life. That can never end well.
14:19.05sbuack
14:19.08JJSheets:)
14:19.10Fisker-seemed to work fine with omnicc here earlier
14:19.19Fisker-but i didn't make something über insane
14:20.22Killmore7peoples will craft less pot.. so will need less herbs, more herbs available at AH.. hmm I go with B, less expensive
14:20.27JJSheetsFisker-, hit something with a cooldown of about a minute... swap stances or pages... bask in the glory of instants having cooldowns...
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14:20.55GagorianJJSheets: What kind of support does InifiniBar have to get the PIDs for actions on buttons?
14:20.58xyuAddon Loadup (19847 KiB - 74655 KiB)  
14:21.05xyugeez it just doens't feel like i have that many addons
14:21.16DynomI've 130 atm
14:21.30JJSheetsPIDs?  and IB does not use actionids at all.
14:21.35xyuis that 2nd number in warmup the garbage count?
14:21.50JJSheetsit uses direct settings of spell, petspell, item, and macros.
14:22.05Dynomls -1 c:\games\wow\interface\addons | wc -l
14:22.05Dynom125
14:22.09Gagoriannot actionIDs, but spell IDs or something that another addon could use to determine what is on that button
14:23.13JJSheetsah.  two steps... first, get the bar object like so: local myBar = InfiniBar:GetBar(myBarsName)
14:23.42xyui use spellbinder
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14:23.57JJSheetsstep two:  myBar:GetButtonEffectiveState(Attr,btnnumber)
14:24.19JJSheetsyou'd get the effective state for type and spell, item, macro, or pet
14:24.28JJSheetsdepending on what the type is.
14:24.42JJSheetsthere's other data in there as well.
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14:25.05ZealotOnAStickStephmw: I like the binding method used in Bongos.
14:25.13JJSheetssee http://ace.pastey.net/10092 and the IB source code for more info.
14:25.30StephmwZealotOnAStick: hover-and-press?
14:26.08ZealotOnAStickyeah
14:26.11StephmwZealotOnAStick: that's the one I'm thinking of then
14:26.17Stephmws/Trinity/Bongos/
14:26.20ZealotOnAStickAs far as Trinity's code being reused for anything . . .
14:26.25ZealotOnAStickhave you SEEN the trinity code
14:26.27ZealotOnAStick?
14:26.45StephmwI've only just redownloaded it... bad?
14:26.52GagorianWell, I'd like it to fit rather well in with support for other addons. I generally get the frame for the buttons and their actionID, but that's not an option now. Nurfed bars don't use actionIDs either, but have a .spell value in their buttonframes which allows easy compatiblity
14:27.01GagorianCould you possibly support something like that?
14:27.40ZealotOnAStickTrinity's not the worst example I've seen of how not to write good code . . . but it's pretty bad.
14:27.47ZealotOnASticksomething like 8k lines in a single file.
14:27.56GagorianOr just store the spellbook number for a spell (for instance) in the buttonframe
14:28.25ZealotOnAStickI poked around in it for about an hour and a half trying to write a cyCircled module for it, and gave up when my head was throbbing.
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14:30.49JJSheetsGagorian, I doubt that I'll change it... I'd have to duplicate settings inside a frame.  This would increase memory usage when I want to decrease it.
14:31.24StephmwZealotOnAStick: so, on the bongos one, re-usable for other addons?
14:31.33GagorianHmm, you have a textsub system similar to flexbar?
14:31.56ZealotOnAStickdon't really see why it shouldn't be.  Tuller's code is generally good.
14:32.01JJSheetsthe interface for IB and FB2 is intended to be identical.
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14:35.16ZealotOnAStickbinder.lua and binder.xml in Bongos_Options.  Not that much to them, really.
14:35.51Fisker-I just killed my entire guild :P
14:36.18Fisker-I went agent smith-mode and started talking about purpose!
14:36.29StephmwZealotOnAStick: THANKS FOR HAVING A LOOK
14:36.33Fisker-They found no purpose with my rambling so they went ahead and jumped off a cliff
14:36.34Stephmwerr
14:36.39StephmwZealotOnAStick: sorry, caps ;)
14:37.03Stephmwfingers don't seem to work too well after lunch
14:37.52Ominousis there an addon that creates a minimap icon for all your professions?
14:38.18Stephmwdoesn't Cartographer* do this?
14:38.54xyuI haven't seen the option
14:39.13xyuBut i didn't look either
14:40.24CIA-1103jjsheets * r32354 10InfiniBar/MacroSupport.lua: InfiniBar - Fix for nil errors in MacroSupport.lua.
14:40.25GagorianJJSheets: Well. I still think the best option for me would be by having a single attribute for either macro index or spell index in the corresponding frame (could just spellName, spellRank = GetSpellName( button.pid, BOOKTYPE_SPELL )). Not that memory intensive. But I shall see
14:41.10JJSheetsmemory intensive  because I'd have to duplicate values stored elsewhere.
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14:41.45JJSheetsI might be wrong... but at the moment I think the way I'm doing it is fine and gives access to everything you'd ever need.
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14:42.40GagorianOn the other hand it makes my code less streamlined if I have to make an exception for a single actionbar addon compared to the 6-7 others I support
14:43.34JJSheetswhat code are you updating, btw?
14:44.22OminousGagorian: so everyone has a less efficient addon so that yours can be more efficient for the people that use it?
14:45.39JJSheetsI'm not entirely convinced that my way is right mind ypu, but at the moment I have other bugs to kill.  :)
14:45.43GagorianJJSheets: DrDamage support
14:45.57JJSheetsah.
14:46.02JJSheetslemme check something...
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14:47.44GagorianOminous: Well, I could sacrifice a few bytes (someone can calculate how much a variable containing an integral below 120 for somewhat around 120 button frames is) for ease of supporting other addons
14:49.49JJSheetsGagorian, would it make things easier if I provided a function to return spellname and rank?
14:50.00JJSheetsor nil if it's not a spell?
14:50.35JJSheetsthen you could duplicate the RegisterTextSub code in DrDamage:OnInitialize()
14:50.45Gagorianyes
14:50.48CIA-1103ag * r32355 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura: Added ``snap´´ option, snaps aura sizes to complete rows
14:51.03GagorianBasically, support like FlexBar2 would be nice
14:51.04CIA-1103helium * r32356 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (5 files in 3 dirs): !!!StandaloneLibraries - add StatLogicLib and TipHookerLib
14:51.08Mikmadoes that mean there are no spaces between the auras
14:51.48GagorianJJSheets: You can even write the textsub part (if you prefer), I'll add it then
14:52.08JJSheetsheh, believe it or not, that was already on my todo list.  :)
14:52.20sergio_is anyone else having an error with banzai
14:52.50GagorianJJSheets: cncfanatics wrote that FB2 part, but it isn't completely done yet
14:53.05GagorianAt that point FB2 wasn't capable of getting arguments in events
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14:53.14JJSheetsheh
14:53.45GagorianMy update event will give as arguments the spell(s) being updated if it's spell specific
14:53.52Gagorianso either nil if it's all buttons
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14:53.58Gagorian"Drain Life"
14:54.06Gagorianor { "Flash of Light", "Holy Light" }
14:54.08Gagorianas example
14:55.17GagorianThat'd be preferred cause doing a full update will always be demanding on resources, and on stuff like drain life (soul siphon) it's totally unnecessary to do full updates. So support with that in mind would be perfect
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14:55.37JJSheetsk
14:56.42JJSheetsI'll probably get this coded up tonight.
14:57.25JJSheetsand by tonight I mean in about 8 hours... :)
14:59.00Fisker-oh wait
14:59.02Fisker-wrong macro
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14:59.39StephmwHealth: you'll be on CET, and I'm on BST
14:59.53HealthBST ftl
15:00.00Stephmwagreed
15:00.10StephmwBST == British Stupid Time
15:00.13Fisker-BST?
15:00.14Fisker-ah
15:00.30Stephmwso slightly out of phase with everyone else's timezone changes
15:00.43JJSheetslol
15:00.45Fisker-isn't bst summertime?
15:01.04Stephmwright
15:01.16Stephmwexcept there is no summer in the UK...
15:01.17kenlyricUTC for the serious win.
15:01.31ElkanoUGT ftw ;)
15:01.38Stephmwthere are only two seasons: Cold+wet and Wet+not so cold
15:01.59HealthLOL ftw
15:02.11ElkanoROFL, he said LOL
15:02.17Ominousstephmw: stop complaiming, the last few days have been shweet
15:02.48MikmaBST, Bullshit!
15:03.02StephmwOminous: you're right! I should be thankful we managed 3 days this year.
15:03.12Ominoussigh
15:03.36StephmwOminous: my problem isn't that I think the UK just has bad weather, it doesn't
15:03.49StephmwOminous: it's just that it's becoming a big homogenous single season
15:03.50ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070407
15:05.45JJSheetsGagorian, what should I pass for manaUpdate to CheckAction()?
15:06.14Fisker-olololol
15:06.16Fisker-i was so bored
15:07.37Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/what.jpg <-so you said i had killing blow?
15:08.41Healthcool hip hop font
15:08.45Healthoh wait.. NOT!
15:08.50Fisker-default!
15:09.08Dynomexit
15:09.09Dynomups
15:09.23Dynombb
15:10.37GagorianJJSheets: nil
15:10.41JJSheetsk
15:11.00GagorianIt's for people who use the casts left option
15:11.21Gagorianan update that is triggered by mana level changing so it wont recalc damage
15:13.03JJSheetspass updateSpells in unchanged I take it?
15:14.04JJSheetsor nil to streamline it since I'm already checking it?
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15:14.53Gagoriannil in this case
15:14.57JJSheetsk
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15:15.20GagorianTo get the text returned as a string you only need to pass action ID or spellname and rank
15:15.54JJSheetscool.  Now I just need to write the code to return SpellName And Rank
15:17.09CIA-1103gagorian * r32357 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
15:17.10CIA-11DrDamage:
15:17.10CIA-11-Combined the button processing code for a few addons leading into less if else checks per update
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15:20.57Ominouswtf
15:21.01Ominousi just quit wow
15:21.11Ominousmost of my mods dont work
15:21.27Mikmak. can i have your stuff?
15:21.31JJSheetslol
15:22.08Ominouswtf
15:22.17Ominousthey are enabled, not even gem works
15:22.22deltronugh my interweb is unreliable as of late :/
15:22.56Ominous. /ace2 list search syas they are enabled
15:24.58xyuI think my mount is too fast to load Mining nodes on the minimap  ; ;
15:25.51JJSheetsawww...
15:25.52Mikmayou need a better compujter
15:25.57ravagernlYessss, I just got an invitation for a new job
15:26.09xyuit could be my 800 normal ping
15:26.24xyuwonder if that has anything to do w/ tracking
15:27.09Ominousbloody python script
15:27.14Punkie`xyu: i still could never play wow the way you do :P
15:27.23xyuit's horrible
15:27.43xyupve i don't mind so much but put me in arena and i'm crying.
15:27.47xyubut i'm used to it now
15:28.08xyui have to bubble a little early for my taste or else i'm stuck in that 3 second global cooldown :P
15:28.25Punkie`do you use RapidCast?!1/1
15:28.35xyuyes but it isn't working for me.  i don't know why.
15:28.46xyuI'm not doing something right
15:28.48xyuDo i have to configure something?
15:28.55Punkie`apparently you need to use it in macro's
15:28.59Punkie`or so it says
15:29.10xyui use clique ; ;
15:29.13xyuso that might be why
15:29.36xyui suppose i could hotkey and make a macro for /stopspellcasting but i'm so used to clique / grid healing now
15:29.57ag`you can use macros with click casting
15:30.11xyuoh? please teach!
15:30.22xyudrag the macro?
15:30.34ag`just play around with the options in clique or whatever you use for clickcasting
15:30.48xyuyeah clique.  kk i'll check it out.
15:31.26HealthHow does RapidCast work?
15:31.41HealthPuts stopspellcasting before all spells?
15:31.51xyualso adjusts your casting ba
15:31.51xyubar
15:31.51ag`no, you have to do that yourself
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15:32.13ag`it just adjusts your castbar for lag, so you know when to use /stopspellcasting
15:32.32xyuthat's the part that isn't working for me however
15:32.42xyuit's not adjusting.  it still says 0.0 for like 1 second
15:32.59xyuwhoa
15:33.03xyui just noticed
15:33.11xyuif i target myself and have target castbar enabled
15:33.13xyuit works.
15:33.18xyubut it doesn't work on my player unitframe
15:33.49xyuneat. wonder why that is.
15:38.12JJSheetswell. I gotta go to work...
15:38.17JJSheetsadios ya'll
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15:38.45Fisker-I'm gonna get it now :/
15:39.12Fisker-Looks like phpraid deleted some characters after converting to utf-8 :o
15:39.15Fisker-i'm gonna get raped
15:39.21Punkie`ho ho ho
15:39.58Scr3emi'm trying to wrap my mind around the meaning of $/="", can someone offer an explanation?
15:40.00Fisker-Oh well atleast i'll get my spot at magtheridon :D
15:40.06Punkie`:D
15:40.17Scr3emmiss channel, sorry
15:40.41Punkie`You know how you can make a macro to cast a spell on mouseover
15:40.46Punkie`does that work with grid?
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15:41.18Fisker-i could quickly test
15:41.23Fisker-hit me with a macro
15:41.34Punkie`um
15:41.40Fisker-just /cast [target=mouseover] spell?
15:41.44Punkie`yeah
15:42.25Fisker-works
15:42.29Punkie`wicked
15:42.56Fisker-i might use that macro
15:42.59Fisker-THANKS PUNKIE!
15:44.08Punkie`YOU'RE WELCOME!
15:44.37Punkie`I just thought how lazy I could be if I levelled my pala and raided with it
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15:48.29vhaarr~whalenuke deltron
15:48.31purlACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around deltron with his mind powers
15:50.38Punkie`omg Fisker-, your wowwiki talk is now made of win
15:52.23deltronlinkplz
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15:55.55Fisker-thx Punkie`
15:57.08Punkie`nps
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16:04.18SarozSo I guess Pitbull is gonna take over ag_uf :)
16:04.38Fisker-I'm gonna take you over
16:04.55Saroztror jeg nok ik'
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16:09.54Fisker-damnit
16:10.05Fisker-forgot that a stupid rfc run costs me 2g in repairs
16:10.06Fisker-QQ
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16:13.27vhaarrwtf, who fucked instanceloot?
16:14.14vhaarrArrowmaster: you broke it
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16:14.49Fisker-i agree
16:15.01Fisker-i was about to whine and moan about it
16:15.06Fisker-glad you beat me to it
16:15.11vhaarrmy pleasure
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16:15.51sergio_Is anyone else getting this banzai bug http://sp.cream.org/images/misc/aceconsole.jpg
16:15.51CIA-1103helium * r32358 10FuBar_AmmoFu/AmmoFuLocale-zhTW.lua:
16:15.51CIA-11FuBar_AmmoFu:
16:15.52CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
16:16.10vhaarrsergio_: yeah, it's not a banzai bug, actually.
16:16.15vhaarrsergio_: it's a AceConsole bug
16:16.23vhaarror rather a AceDB one
16:16.23sergio_well that's why I named it aceconsole
16:16.28sergio_i assumed it was ace
16:16.35vhaarryou said "banzai bug" explicitly but alright
16:16.40AmadeoPitBull sure changed a lot on me since the last time I logged in
16:16.51sergio_vhaarr: honestly, I just said that to get your attention
16:16.55AmadeoI can't tell what happened, but my layout isn't the same
16:16.55sergio_i'm sneaky like that
16:17.00vhaarrsergio_: if you update BanzaiAlert it should be "fixed"
16:17.19vhaarr"fixed" in the sense that I just remove the profile menu
16:17.31sergio_I use winaceupdater :| but i'll let you know in a bit
16:17.33CIA-1103fleetfoot * r32359 10DarkCandy/ (DarkCandy.lua libs/):
16:17.33CIA-11DarkCandy:
16:17.33CIA-11- Seduce should register again.
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16:17.44vhaarrsergio_: well it works here
16:17.55vhaarrArrowmaster: god dammit
16:17.58vhaarrArrowmaster: fix instanceloot
16:18.12sergio_is instanceloot letting people disconnect
16:18.18sergio_cause that happened to me
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16:19.04sedatedChipmunkwtf jacked up my fonts
16:19.19sergiofontjacker-1.0  god i'm witty
16:20.16sergio:(
16:20.53sedatedChipmunkyou don't mess with a dude's fonts
16:21.18sedatedChipmunkgive him errors, layout wonkiness, broken buttons
16:21.24sedatedChipmunkbut you don't mess with his fonts
16:21.27AmadeoBros before truetype
16:21.57CIA-1103rabbit * r32360 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua: Cartographer: InstanceLoot: Reverting Arrowmasters last 2 commits.
16:21.57sedatedChipmunkthere's a reason i replaced every font in my Fonts directory with exactly the same file
16:22.21[Ammo]sedatedChipmunk: are you atlkinga bout pitbull?
16:22.25[Ammo]then I messed up your fonts
16:22.25sedatedChipmunkyes
16:22.28[Ammo]go into global settings
16:22.32sedatedChipmunki did
16:22.33[Ammo]and change font to something else
16:22.37[Ammo]now shoo!
16:22.44sedatedChipmunkthey're huge liek xbox
16:22.55sedatedChipmunki want my old size back
16:22.59Heri0XBOX IS NOT HUGE
16:23.03Heri0it's stately
16:23.07sedatedChipmunklol
16:23.24[Ammo]too bad :p
16:23.35sedatedChipmunkdon't jack my fonts, man
16:23.39[Ammo]work on font size stuff is still being worked on
16:23.42[Ammo]etc
16:25.07AmadeoWhat were the default fonts for PitBull?
16:25.08AmadeoI want those back!
16:25.08sedatedChipmunkthey were the ones you'd set yourself
16:25.08sedatedChipmunknow they're ammo's fonts
16:25.08sedatedChipmunkbecause apparently his fonts are better than yours
16:25.08AmadeoI didn't set any!
16:25.08Stephmws/apparently//
16:25.32[Ammo]they should be the same size 12 as the normal gamefontnormalsmall
16:25.58[Ammo]but there will be a font size option soonish
16:26.04[Ammo]I just didn't bother
16:26.48sedatedChipmunkwhy would you want to set fonts for each addon anyway?
16:27.08sedatedChipmunkwho are the ad wizards who came up with that one?
16:27.09AmadeoI haven't played/updated in a few days, I just noticed that when I logged in this time that my fonts were different, and my layout didn't line up correctly anymore
16:28.18sedatedChipmunkeverybody's name is now 3 letters long
16:28.18Heri0two seperate revisions caused those problems
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16:28.21Fisker-you can change fonts
16:28.24sedatedChipmunkfollowed by three dots
16:28.51CIA-1103pb_ee1 * r32361 10ChatLog/ (6 files):
16:28.51CIA-11ChatLog:
16:28.52CIA-11- Now logging loot events in a brand new log channel.
16:28.52CIA-11- Needs german/chinese/corean localization.
16:29.17sedatedChipmunkcorean?
16:29.18Heri0the fonts is because they made the font configurable, and ditched the unlisenced font, and the layout is because they changed some other crap, which ended up resizing your frames a bit or something >.>
16:29.40AmadeoCan I hide PitBull raid frames somehow?
16:29.51Amadeooh yeah, nevermind, duh
16:29.52[Ammo]Amadeo: read options then come ask
16:29.54Heri0...
16:30.10sedatedChipmunkI DID NOT ASK FOR THIS!
16:30.22Heri0everyone calm the fuck down
16:30.33StephmwsedatedChipmunk: maybe corean is related to Coral?
16:30.52sedatedChipmunkwe support single-celled organisms now?
16:31.12StephmwI'm sure that applies to a few players brains...
16:31.38Amadeo[Ammo]: I can't read them, all my fonts are messed up :P
16:31.54[Ammo]Amadeo: bullshit
16:31.57Amadeohahaha
16:32.00hyperChipmunkrofl
16:32.57CIA-1103pb_ee1 * r32362 10ChatLog/ChatLog.lua: ChatLog: - Fixing typo error.
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16:34.32HealthI got an interesting effect in pitbul yesterday in arena.. I chose "show party even in raid" everything showed with all the debuff/buff placeholders too
16:35.12vodrinsometimes it goes into config mode ye
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16:43.15moonsorrowanyone knows a page where all the license models are listed and compared to each other?
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16:49.58Heri0errr
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16:51.11Cynyranyone know of a mod that keeps autoattack on after you switch targets unless its a sheep or cc'ed in some way?
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16:53.04Funkeh`hi
16:53.28Fisker-There's a ui function for it, but i doubt it will differentiate on sheeps
16:53.41Fisker-and i doubt there is an addon that's allowed to differientate
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16:54.34Cynyrhmm there used to be, but that was like 1.11
16:56.31CIA-1103funkydude * r32363 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua:
16:56.31CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Morogrim:
16:56.31CIA-11- bugfix
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16:57.48Cowboy__the week i join this channel is the week i decide to quit playing wow
16:57.52Cowboy__coincidence?
16:57.53Cowboy__heh
16:58.36Tornhoofno way :D
16:58.59Fisker-btw
16:59.16Fisker-how is it that the corpseway module shares notes with guildies? :(
16:59.33sbuhaha :o
16:59.48sergiovhaarr: by any chance did you forget to commit that acedb fix?
16:59.50Fisker-We keep egging eachother on each time we see the Corpsenote
16:59.50Fisker-:D
16:59.51sbu"go priest, rezz me!"
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17:10.03spliff_hi... i have once used an ace alternative for 'incognito' (show main characters name in chat). but i can't find it anymore. how is it called again?
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17:11.53Fisker-prat can do it
17:12.06spliff_ah yes?
17:12.06Fisker-but that's a seperate chat addon
17:12.16spliff_i'm already using it
17:12.32Fisker-AltNames is the module called
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17:13.04spliff_i see, thank you
17:13.30spliff_prat is a real monster to me
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17:18.47vhaarrsergio: hm sec
17:18.56vhaarrsergio: no
17:19.53Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/res/24263952.html <-fuck this shit :/
17:20.53vhaarrsergio: http://wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua?order=name#L314
17:21.52Chompersoh god
17:21.54Chompers4chan /b
17:21.56Chomperskeep it away
17:22.02Fisker-best place on the internets
17:22.18sergiovhaarr: Dunno then I still get it on my end  BanzaiAlert - Already at rev 31544 - Skipping
17:22.40sergioI have niagra installed might be it. you said something about menus
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17:28.00Fisker-Elkano!
17:28.19Chomperskano!
17:28.26Chompersfrom mortal kombat
17:28.48ScorpionGET OVER HERE
17:28.53ElkanoChompers, you failed...
17:29.44Chomperscome on, that scorpion jokes awesome, if i do say so myself
17:31.15Elkanohmm... sorry, but nope
17:31.21Chompers:<
17:36.20CIA-1103choumarin * r32364 10BankAccountant/ (BankAccountant.lua BankAccountant.toc Locale-enUS.lua):
17:36.20CIA-11BankAccountant:
17:36.20CIA-11- Fixed enUS translation issue
17:39.17CIA-1103trh * r32365 10VanasKoS/modules/Synchronizer.lua: VanasKoS: bugfix
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17:43.02Johnny_Hey
17:43.20Johnny_anyone one that know alot about AceHook2.1
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17:43.32[Ammo]shoot the question
17:43.42ravagernl_hahaha I just did 180k dmg in wsg 40-49 while second on the list did 80k
17:44.00Johnny_i don't see the points to the lib.
17:44.04spliff_how does one use prat altnames? i've linked some alts to my main now, but how do i display my mainname when i'm logged in with my alt?
17:44.19Johnny_saving a function and overwriting is easy
17:44.30Johnny_so what does acehook add?
17:44.44[Ammo]easier handling
17:44.50[Ammo]but you don't have to use it
17:45.00[Ammo]it automatically unhooks when you disable an ace addon
17:45.04hyperChipmunkit makes us not hate you
17:45.13hyperChipmunkfor ganking our functions
17:45.43CIA-1103choumarin * r32366 10BankAccountant/BankAccountant.lua:
17:45.43CIA-11BankAccountant:
17:45.43CIA-11- fixed index bug
17:45.52Johnny_i'm all for easier handling. guess the doc. is still confusing me :)
17:46.03Johnny_i'll look at it somemore :)
17:51.39ag`~purl
17:51.41purlextra, extra, read all about it, purl is one awesome bot!, or very suggestible.
17:53.07AmadeoOpera 9.20 is out, for those who use it
17:53.48ag`~test
17:53.50purlOh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied!
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17:55.32Johnny_thanks Ammo i understand it now :)
17:57.30MoonWolf~emulate murrey
17:57.51MoonWolf~emulate murray
17:57.52purlI'm a powerful demonic force! I'm the harbinger of your doom! And the forces of darkness will applaud me as I STRIDE through the gates of hell carrying your head on a pike!
17:59.22ag`~fruit
17:59.24purlhmm... fruit is an apple, for example
17:59.38ag`no, purl, fruit is FRUIT VENDOR!!! Your cart is still in our way! We will give you one more hour to move it from our area. Do not test our patience anymore!
17:59.57ag`damn, I don't think he's listening
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18:03.30Fisker-http://www.glumbert.com/media/sexydrownwatch
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18:14.28purlextra, extra, read all about it, ag is Antigua & Barbuda
18:14.40sbuhm
18:14.44ag`o_O
18:17.50Chompers[b][url=http://www.wowace.com/files/PitBull/PitBull.zip]PitBull[/url][/b]
18:17.51Chompers[b][url=http://www.wowace.com/files/PitBull_RangeCheck/PitBull_RangeCheck.zip][Pitbull Range Check[/url][/b]
18:17.51Chompers[b][url=http://www.wowace.com/files/PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.zip]PitBull Estimated Heals[/url][/b]  – modifies your  Unit frames into something less hideous, useful for showing your targets targets target/casting time and a load of other things I cant remember
18:17.54Chompersoops
18:18.05Chomperssorry, i shouldnt cut and paste from websites
18:19.50Antiarc|WorkSo I tried Aloft last night
18:19.52Antiarc|Workand I REALLY like it.
18:20.41Gnarfozit's great
18:20.41HerioI hate name plates >.>
18:20.50Gnarfozyou'll love em with aloft :D
18:20.55Heriono
18:20.58Gnarfozat least if you have some use for them (tanking, healing)
18:21.21Heriodoes aloft fix the shit where they stop me from shadow furying?
18:23.10Gnarfozhow are they doing that?
18:23.16Antiarc|Workhttp://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041007202926zc5.jpg <--- impossible to see what to hit without nameplates
18:23.51Antiarc|WorkYou can't cast a targeted AOE  by clicking on a nameplate
18:23.54Gnarfozheh
18:23.55Antiarc|WorkThe nameplate eats the click
18:23.56Gnarfozyeah
18:24.00Gnarfozstill:
18:24.05Antiarc|WorkI just hit "V" to turn them off to target AOEs, then v to turn them back on.
18:24.10Gnarfozeither shadowd's nameplates modifier, or aloft
18:24.16Herioeven if I'm not on the nameplate it screws it up
18:24.17Gnarfozhas a feature to make them click-through
18:24.30HerioI need to be like 25px away :O
18:25.15GnarfozAntiarc|Work: @screenshot: I remember those situations from when my rogue was fun... raiding bwl or whatever... screams on TS: "hit the ones with low hp first, damnit" ... "which ones the hell are that?" :D
18:27.00hyperChipmunki make the alt-key hold-toggle them
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18:27.05hyperChipmunklike warcraft 3
18:27.34hyperChipmunkturn on with alt-down, hide with alt-up
18:29.04Antiarc|WorkGnarfoz: On those pulls, I hit BF, AR, Evasion, close my eyes, mash SS, and open them when the screaming stops.
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18:29.17Gnarfozheh, yeah, that works
18:29.18Arrowmastervhaarr: look at the diffs, how the fuck did i break it?
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18:29.59GnarfozhyperChipmunk: how do you do that?
18:33.03vhaarrArrowmaster: you tell me
18:33.13Arrowmasterim trying to find out what exactly broke right now
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18:38.17hyperChipmunkGnarfoz: they added events for modifier keys with 2.0
18:38.38hyperChipmunksec, i'll pastey
18:38.54Gnarfozneeds an addon for that, or is it macroable?
18:39.08hyperChipmunkit's about 10 lines in my scratch addon
18:40.03hyperChipmunkhttp://ace.pastey.net/11689
18:40.19hyperChipmunk11
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18:40.27hyperChipmunkplus the event register
18:40.45Gnarfozsounds neat :)
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18:42.48hyperChipmunkoh, there should be a 'local altdown' line at the start
18:43.10hyperChipmunkhttp://ace.pastey.net/11690
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18:48.39Arrowmasterfucking pranthese!
18:48.42Arrowmasterfound the bug
18:50.28kergothheh
18:50.48FrostByghtereally stupid question....what exactly is 'focus' in pitbull?
18:50.58hyperChipmunkyour /focus target
18:51.05hyperChipmunkintroduced in 2.0
18:51.10hyperChipmunkit's like a secondary target
18:51.26FrostByghteoh...hell I didn't know that...what is the use of it exactly?
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18:51.34ckknight_for bosses and whatnot
18:51.36FrostByghtejust to have multiple targets queued up?
18:51.37hyperChipmunkyou can type /focus to set your current target as the focus, or set a hotkey
18:51.39kergothhttp://xkcd.com/c244.html - hehe
18:51.54hyperChipmunkit's just nice to have an extra target that you can keep an eye on
18:52.02FrostByghteok gotcha
18:52.08hyperChipmunkand can easily target or cast on
18:52.30kergothFrostByghte: its often used to keep an eye on the mob you sheeped or shackled or..
18:52.47FrostByghteso does your previous target automatically become the focus?
18:52.56kergothno, you set it manually
18:53.00hyperChipmunkyou have to set it manually
18:53.20hyperChipmunkwell, i suppose you could write an addon to do it automatically
18:53.25hyperChipmunkor macros
18:53.39FrostByghtehmm...interesting I'll have to mess around with that a bit
18:53.39hyperChipmunkbut the advantage is you can set it manually and it doesn't change
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18:54.01FrostByghteso how do you cast on it then? do you have to change to it as the main target?
18:54.21hyperChipmunkor use a macro with /cast [target=focus] spellname
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18:54.39hyperChipmunkor click it if you have a hand thingy
18:55.00hyperChipmunkjust like you would any other frame
18:55.17FrostByghteok...thanks, that clears it up
18:55.19Phatrikman I wish Skinner could also change the viewport on left and right sides as well, like CT_Viewport did
18:55.40FrostByghtelooking at pitbull and grid now
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18:56.00FrostByghtepitbull is easy to setup, grid...well I understand but it is a bit daunting :)
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18:59.43kenlyricFrostByghte: it's well worth the time investment.
19:00.27kenlyricit's a use learning curve to, until you know from memory what each little dot means :)
19:00.52FrostByghteI'm guessing I should just stick with the default settings for now?
19:01.06FrostByghteya, I can see that grid is far superior to anything out there I have checked out for raids
19:01.16kergothas soon as i saw how flexible it was wrt whats displayed where, it won me over, long before i remembered what was what :)
19:01.22FrostByghteonce you understand it, at a glance you can get updates quickly
19:01.27GnarfozPhatrik: you could also just use the addon that can do what you need ;)
19:02.09Phatrikcould do :P
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19:05.45Chompershow odd, i get a weird kinda 'ghost frame' of a player when im in a raid
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19:06.58FrostByghteI added the pitbull barfader...what is this supposed to do?  I haven't noticed any difference
19:07.23hyperChipmunkturn it on for a frame
19:07.39JoshBorkeabsolutely nothing, just remove it
19:07.49hyperChipmunk~whaleslap JoshBorke
19:07.51purlACTION beats JoshBorke upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
19:07.56JoshBorke~whaleparry
19:08.11JoshBorkehow come he never parries for me :-(
19:08.12hyperChipmunkdenied
19:08.12FrostByghteFade Value or Smooth Value?
19:08.17hyperChipmunk~whaleparry JoshBorke
19:08.19purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry JoshBorke's attacks.
19:08.21hyperChipmunkboth
19:08.23JoshBorke:-(
19:08.23hyperChipmunkeither
19:08.31JoshBorkeFrostByghte: either one, they do different things
19:08.44hyperChipmunkhe always parries for me =)
19:08.50FrostByghte:)
19:09.29JoshBorkeFrostByghte: is that mo' better?
19:09.33FrostByghtethat's what I didn't understand...it doesn't say anything for either one so wasn't sure what to select
19:09.48JoshBorkeit should have popped up a box telling you what it does
19:09.49hyperChipmunktry 'em and find out
19:10.25FrostByghtethe box says "Smooth Value" and "Fade Value" :)
19:10.53JoshBorkefeel free to give me better descriptions, i'm just lazy
19:11.04Gnarfozwhoever told me yesterday that nurfed's "gliding" animation was replicated in that "smooth value" thing: LIAR! :P
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19:12.20JoshBorkewasn't me
19:12.27JoshBorkei just helped write the thing
19:12.43Mikklies
19:12.49Mikk(what's the topic? =P)
19:12.49Gnarfozheh
19:13.01Gnarfozdoes it _really_ matter?
19:13.02Gnarfoz:p
19:13.10JoshBorkealways beating me down :-(
19:13.14Mikk\o/
19:13.22JoshBorkepurl, slap Mikk
19:13.24purlACTION slaps Mikk, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
19:13.48Gnarfozanyway, it looks like it changes the value and then pulls the part that is not there anymore (the amout of health/mana you just lost) to the new position
19:14.07JoshBorkeyes
19:14.27Gnarfozyou can see both happening, the gliding thing sacrificed accuracy (I guess) and just showed the old position gliding to the new one
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19:15.14Gnarfozhard to describe, actually, I don't have a video at hand ;D
19:15.18JoshBorkedoubt you'll get it any other way
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19:15.35JoshBorkeyou can probably see that by changing the SetAlpha(0.7) to SetAlpha(1) in the smooth part of the Update* functions
19:16.14FrostByghteis there a quick method in pitbull to set the same options on every frame?
19:16.22GnarfozI wonder how they implemented it... what happens when there's a change before the gliding part hits its new position?
19:16.28Gnarfozit looke neat though :)
19:16.45JoshBorkeGnarfoz: it just resets to the new position, it doesn't finish smoothing
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19:18.11GnarfozI meant theirs :)
19:18.26JoshBorkeoh, theirs.  it probably just updates the final value
19:18.34Gnarfozah
19:19.20Gnarfozanyway, I guess I'll make it a side project to have a look at that some time, I really liked the looks of that :)
19:19.45JoshBorkelike i said, i bet you can replicate it with Barfader
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19:21.30Gnarfozon a totally different topic
19:21.30Gnarfozhttp://chugworth.scribblekid.org/comic/335.jpg
19:22.32Fisker-i disagree
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19:27.42NickenyfikenHmm anyone got RatingBuster working with tekKompare?
19:29.01FrostByghteok one thing I'm really missing in Pitbull is the pet happiness icon popping up and flashing...now I have the health bar turning red but for some reason this isn't getting my attention.  Is there a decent ACE2 option out there to monitor pet happiness a bit more visibly?
19:29.38ckknightAce2, not ACE2
19:29.49ckknightstop all the yelling.
19:29.53FrostByghtesorry :)
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19:31.50Heriodoes corkfu have a happiness thing?
19:32.05Elkanoat least it used to have
19:32.37HerioI'll check for frosty, cause I'm curious
19:32.55Heriohttp://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/FuBar_CorkFu/ClassHunterPetHappy.lua?order=name
19:33.00FrostByghteI don't really use fubar, but I hear that I should :)
19:33.03Herioit does appear to =)
19:33.29FrostByghtewoot
19:33.47Heriocork has a detachable tool tip thingy, I just drag it into the middle of my screen so I get a pretty blatant reminder when there's something that needs corking
19:34.00JoshBorkeFrostByghte: we need more users like you to click on ads :-D
19:34.33Heriomy only complaint about cork is that you can't hide the plugin from the bar/minimap =/
19:34.39Elkanoads? where?
19:35.51FrostByghteif you guys need additional revenue you could try Tribal Fusion or Burst Media
19:36.26FrostByghteI think they might accept you, valueclick is another option as well as casale media and cpx interactive
19:36.30Heriohow about we all get tattoos boasting the size of our epeens
19:36.37Heriothat will surely bring in the monehs
19:36.50FrostByghteyou can sell ad space on your foreheads on ebay...that seems to work
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19:40.33Azurewrathsince nymbia isn't here.. maybe someone has a clue :) - i just tested PT3Bar.. seems to be great.. but is there any way to change the look of the buttons to the 'Zoomed' style of Bartender3 or to integrate the Buttons completely? :)
19:41.08Herioyou could probably change the styling quite easily if you have some coding experience
19:41.15kergothAzurewrath: i dont think anyone has done that. you could use cycircled which can skin it
19:41.19kergothindeed
19:41.33Heriojust look at the bartender code for it and hack em together =P
19:41.50Azurewrathhehe, IF.. i can change code at some times.. well.. i'll try ;)
19:45.01Chomperstattoo of an epenis on a penis? i dont think it would fit for most people
19:46.44Fisker-cycircled can skin it but dunnot if it has the zoomed style
19:46.46StephmwChompers: shhhh
19:46.52StephmwChompers: let em try it
19:47.00StephmwChompers: the pain will teach em something, I hope
19:47.02Fisker-is there anyway to make it prefer stuff like conjured food and such?
19:47.33Tem~lart Mik
19:47.33purlchops Mik in half with a free Solaris 7 CD
19:47.39Tem~lart Mikma
19:47.39purlsend killer squirrels to attack Mikma
19:48.16Mikmameh
19:48.25Mikma~tryme
19:48.26purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click.
19:48.45AzurewrathFisker-: i guess you have to edit PT3 for that, since it gets it's item id's from there
19:48.52Mikma~rinsult
19:49.24Elkano~tryme
19:49.26purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at elkano and fires. Click.
19:51.20AzurewrathFisker-: mhm.. i was wrong.. line 20 in Config.lua: ["PT3BarCustom.MostWater"] = "m,Consumable.Water.Basic,Consumable.Water.Conjured",
19:51.38AzurewrathFisker-: just set Conjured to be the first, should work
19:52.38MikmaTem: lolo u are wuss and u suck more than vacuum!!11
19:53.23kergoth~remulate
19:53.25purlBaby needs to suck ash!
19:53.42Azurewrathmhm.. i fail at adding the Zoomed layout to PT3Bar.. tbh i have no clue where the button is created and stuff :)
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19:54.29Chosiis there an addon like trinketmenu for other item "use" abilities?
19:54.37Gngskitemrack2
19:54.42Scr3em*is full of questions today
19:54.44Chositeh win.
19:54.46Chosithanks :)
19:54.52Scr3emwhat does this mean? /$BegPageText/ && do { }
19:55.05Scr3emsearch and do the block if found?
19:55.20Gngskchosi, think it's still beta though. kergoth mentioned something about it a bit ago
19:56.02Chosilemme try
19:56.06kergothitemrack2 is nifty, has queuing for any item slot and stuff.  but it has some bugs and stability issues (it doesnt always find the items that can be in a certain slot from your inventory), and it doesnt have set swapping based on events yet
19:57.45Antiarc|WorkSwapMagic does queueing
19:58.20Chosiwell it's not about itemsets tho i just want a trinketmenu for the items that have use stuff on them
19:58.32kergothwell, maybe queueing a swap till out of combat, but itemrack can manage a queue for any slot based on the cooldowns of the items in the queue and stuf
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20:03.14purlSilviu-: i haven't seen 'fleefoot'
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20:03.50deltronPOS xp embedded is giving me headaches
20:03.55_neuron_anyone a smith and know how training weaponsmith/axesmith works in tbc?  Can I get away with not doing the damn quests?
20:04.03deltronand I don't mean point of sale :P
20:04.41NeoTronkergoth: is itemrack != itemrack2 or what?
20:04.51NeoTronbecause my itemrack has event-based gear swapping
20:04.58kergothyea, was referring to itemrack2
20:05.08NeoTrondidn't know there a new one
20:05.10kergothitemrack2 is a beta
20:05.15NeoTronall I use auto-gear swaps for is mounting
20:05.17kergothquite nice, hoping he finishes it soon
20:05.25Fisker-lol wut :(
20:05.40Fisker-One of our feral druids is mad that i took the healing cloak from big bad wolf
20:05.40NeoTronand I wish I could get that functionality in trinketmenu directly or something
20:05.50NeoTronFisker-: are you a warrior?
20:05.54Fisker-<-paladin
20:06.06NeoTronFisker-: protection or retr spec?
20:06.17deltronI use closetgnome and trinketmenu myself
20:06.19NeoTronFisker-: just being silly. He's obviously retarded
20:06.28Fisker-holy spec!
20:06.31NeoTronif he things a feral drood gets a healing piece over a holy pally
20:06.42NeoTronI can't stand closetgnome
20:06.51NeoTronitemrack is much more user friendly
20:06.58NeoTron(to me)
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20:08.51ElkanoNeoTron, with my feral I use to quest with a balance/resto druid. although I expect to respec resto on 70 it's normaly "he needs->I pass" for heal and the other way around for feral... symbiosis ;)
20:08.56deltronclosetgnome seems super easy
20:09.02deltronI've never used itemrock
20:09.06NeoTronElkano: it makes sense
20:09.16NeoTrondeltron: I just like the itemrack configuration method
20:10.13kergothwhat i like is a feature.  itemrack can 'toggle' a set.  as a result, it handles sets that include only a couple slots much better than closetgnome does.  i understand why closetgnome doesnt have it, and i'm sure many dont need it, but i do
20:10.30Elkanothe funny thing is that I still end up with nice healing gear ^^
20:10.57kergothequip a fishing set that only includes a fishing pole and a couple other things.  mount up, using the mount set that only equiped the trinket.  unmount.  closetgnome equiped the fvishing set again, leaving the mount trinket in place
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20:11.09kergothitemrack unequips the mount set, so you arent stuck with the mount trinket at that point
20:11.09Elkanotoggle meaning "remember what was there and reequip later"?
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20:11.25Elkanowell, for that I use MountMe
20:11.31kergothit remembers what was in the slots prior to applying that set, so it can revert to previous
20:11.41kergothclosetgnome just applies the previous set to undo the current one
20:11.59kergothwell, the closetgnome modules that automatically apply sets, anyway.  like mount
20:13.17kergothhmm, ZealotOnAStick: not embedding sharedmedialib in clearfont2?
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20:31.10Gnarfoz<_neuron_> anyone a smith and know how training weaponsmith/axesmith works in tbc?  Can I get away with not doing the damn quests? <- you can't get around the weaponsmith quest
20:31.20_neuron_Gnarfoz, boo :(
20:31.22Gnarfozthere is no axe/sword/hammer quest, just talk to the guy in winterspring
20:31.37Gnarfozthe one for what you wanna do, to be more accurate
20:31.40_neuron_think I'll take armorsmith and change it then, looks a lot cheaper than AH'ing the mats for the weaponsmithing stuff
20:31.44Gnarfoz(they're in the same room anyway)
20:32.36_neuron_I went to everlook and realized I could get the axesmith quest without having weaponsmith specialization, but I could not just get it trained (like every guide I looked at said :P )
20:33.00ckknightlol http://chugworth.scribblekid.org/comic.php?id=141
20:33.45Johnny_anyone have any tip on using custom textures? i can't seem to get them to show. I can get the blizzard ones to work but not my own ones :(
20:35.15NightHawkTheSanekergoth: can you catch one for me too? >.>
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20:49.44Phatrikhttp://i11.tinypic.com/4493nrd.jpg ... my idea was good but the result gives me headache :C
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20:52.03kenlyricBy allowing players to use any number of elixirs it was necessary that we balance raid and dungeon encounters with the idea that all players in the group had the potential of having all available elixirs on them.
20:52.19kenlyricdamn this game.
20:52.31NightHawkTheSaneyeah
20:52.32NightHawkTheSane><
20:52.39kenlyricthe secret to my future success in WoW... agility elixirs!
20:52.48kenlyric*that's* what I've been missing.
20:52.49NightHawkTheSanenot even.
20:53.08kenlyricand, elixir of fort... that 120 health has been really hurting me
20:53.10NightHawkTheSanenow it's all about flasks. as they're taking both elixir slots! :P
20:53.33kenlyricso now they'll just tune every encounter around everyone in the raid having a flask.
20:53.38NightHawkTheSaneyep
20:53.52Aenslaedwell. THey nerfed magtheridon, Gruul and Karazhan to the point of not needing a single consumable...
20:54.05kenlyricAnd they wonder why people who don't want to play 24/7 get in a huff about the inaccessibility of raid content.
20:54.14AenslaedSSC is a bit different though.
20:54.18kenlyricI dunno.. how about tune around *gear*, and let buffs be a bonus?
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20:54.34NightHawkTheSaneworst thing is, that doesnt chhange the accessibility of raid content, just makes alchemy a pretty worthless profession
20:55.02kenlyricI'd say karazhan is well tuned that you can complete it without consumables and perfect execution. consumables allow your execution to be less than perfect.
20:55.05Aenslaedthere's still transmutes which are quite a bit of $$$
20:55.22NightHawkTheSanetransmutes are only really worth money if you're xmute master
20:55.27kenlyricwhich to me is a sensible way to tune a dungeon.
20:56.04Aenslaedgruul and magtheridon is just the same.  Dont need any consumables and execution is the key
20:56.22Aenslaedcept a flask on the tank maybe
20:56.34kenlyriccurator is a good example. I'm hurting for mana because the execution by the dps is lacking. If it was better, I'd be fine.
20:56.55Aenslaedkenlyric: lol, normally we get him to phase 2 during the first evocation
20:57.06kenlyricbut I just find it funny that they expect every single person to have a flask + 5 elixirs on them.
20:57.13kenlyricno wonder they think their game is so easy.
20:57.27Aenslaedon the curator?
20:57.32Aenslaedwhat? flask and elixirs?
20:57.34NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: they -have- to expect that, because there are people who -do- have that.
20:57.41kenlyricAenslaed: that'd make you better than 99.97 percent of the guilds out there. So I can't really trust you.
20:57.46Fisker-just got justicar gloves! :O
20:57.58kenlyricNightHawkTheSane: tuning the game for people with no lives is dumb.
20:58.18Aenslaedkenlyric: maybe on your server or something...
20:58.21NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: maybe, but if they didn't, mt hyjal would have been farmed by now
20:58.45trh_NightHawkTheSane: and what would be the problem if?
20:58.48kenlyricyeah, by that .1% that would flask every person in the raid.
20:59.15NightHawkTheSane*shrug* it's obvious they dont want anyone progressing through the content that fast, is all i'm saying :P
20:59.40Aenslaedpre-nerf gruul lol. That was a good cockblock for the not so good guilds
20:59.47CIA-1103phyber * r32370 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc:
20:59.48CIA-11FuBar_TopScoreFu:
20:59.48CIA-11- Poke to generate new zip for WoWI
21:00.11kenlyricAenslaed: best I've heard is 30% after first evocate, and that was from DnT.
21:00.16kenlyricthough they may  have improved since then.
21:00.29kenlyricpoke!
21:00.45Aenslaedmaybe first week... but not anymore...
21:01.37ggilbertkenlyric: That's certainly not the best anymore. We kill curator during the first evocate.
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21:02.11kenlyricI can't even imagine how you would cast fast enough for that.
21:02.38Gngskheroism
21:02.41Gngskbloodlust
21:02.45trh_i'd say: have the raid buffed with flasks and elixirs to the top and you can do that pretty easy
21:02.51AenslaedDont even need that. Just need to minimalize idle time.
21:03.10Aenslaedkeep the melee on curator for the entirity of the fight. Ranged get on sparks.
21:03.13kenlyrictrh_: well, that is what blizzard expects, but I doubt anyone would do that on farm :)
21:03.21NightHawkTheSanetrh_: zing.
21:03.21kenlyricwhat's "melee"?
21:03.26kenlyricis it some sort of unicorn?
21:03.42ggilbertWe don't buff that signficantly for it. I know no one pops a flask
21:03.56ggilbertand I don't use any consumables for that particular fight
21:04.04trh_well.. we do karazhan completly unbuffed, except for prince
21:04.31kenlyricprince?
21:04.39Aenslaedmalchazzar
21:04.39trh_prince malchezaar
21:04.43kenlyricbut... he's so easy.
21:04.49Aenslaedhe is
21:04.54Aenslaedbut phase 2 can cause spikes.
21:05.02trh_ya.. he's easy, and we'd probably even down him without buffs
21:05.07trh_but it makes it easier in phase2
21:05.11Aenslaedthough we only use ironshields for that. Nightbane might require some potting.
21:05.21trh_no, nightbane requires 2 warlocks
21:05.23trh_that's all
21:05.33Aenslaedeh? seeding the skeletons?
21:05.45trh_yep + frost nova
21:05.58trh_makes boooom, and they are gone
21:05.59AenslaedI guess. We dont stack raids. we run 3 kara groups
21:06.00Gngskcertainly not a requirement, but it might be for you
21:06.05Aenslaedbut we're probably gonna cut it down to 1
21:06.26Aenslaedsince everybody has their stuff already
21:06.39trh_Gngsk: well.. its probably possible with less than 2, but as we do have enough warlocks, why not use them? :)
21:06.51GngskI agree, but it's not a requirement.
21:07.11snirksless dodge and more block gear
21:07.22snirksavoids spikes
21:07.38Fisker-PALADINS!!!!!!!!
21:07.41trh_snirks: we usually have a druid tank malchezaar... =)
21:07.47Fisker-Tonight we educate Fisker- or dine in hell
21:07.53Aenslaedsnirks: sure, if there existed the itemization for that...
21:07.58trh_snirks: with ~20k hp there are rarely risky spikes anyway :)
21:08.00snirksthere is some :)
21:08.44Aenslaednot enough to make an impact when concerning a warior
21:08.46Aenslaedwarrior
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21:08.53snirksi swapped some items today for magtheridon and asked the healers how healing me was going
21:08.53Fisker-So any other paladins here?
21:08.58ggilbertSee you get used to thinking that and then all the sudden Prince decides to two shot your bear
21:09.00snirksi used more block gear and less avoidance
21:09.03snirksand they liked it
21:10.01AenslaedMag is easy anyways though.  7 or so healers dedicated to healing 1 person...
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21:10.10trh_i like the shade of aran fight
21:10.23Aenslaedif mag kept attacking through his earthquake move, yeah, it'd matter.
21:10.24trh_you can really see who's playing concentrated and who sucks :)
21:11.04snirksroot@server:/etc# ntpdate
21:11.04snirks11 Apr 23:12:20 ntpdate[18410]: no servers can be used, exiting
21:11.11snirkshow come i get that w
21:11.14snirksoops wrong channel
21:11.16Herioshade of aran = win
21:11.19kenlyrictrh_: aint that the truth.
21:11.26NightHawkTheSanetrh_: i can see that pretty easy on any fight. People who are playing concentrated: the tank and mt healers. People who arnt: probably everyone else. But that may be just me being a cynical tank. >.>
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21:11.37Aenslaedtrh_: oh god yeah.  So many encounters in the game now to weed out the bad players.  Almost all our dps warriors that we recruited for 4horsemen were cut loose.
21:11.58kenlyricNightHawkTheSane: well, it should be amended "playing at a level of concentration required for their class"
21:12.05Heriodps warriors aren't very useful in the xpack XD
21:12.05kenlyricdps will never understand how we suffer.
21:12.15NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: yeah, true.
21:12.21CIA-1103sylvanaar * r32371 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Fixed the console options not displaying due to a 2nd aceconsole registration. Using undocumented and non-mixin API now.
21:12.24snirksim prot and i was leading dps meter on aran
21:12.28snirksdevastate spam
21:12.36Antiarc|WorkOh dear lord.
21:12.39trh_snirks: hehe.. ya.. everyone else has to run around ;)
21:12.43Antiarc|WorkA warlock friend of mine just soloed Durrn the Hungerer
21:12.45Antiarc|WorkAt level 65.
21:12.46snirksyep :D
21:12.57kenlyriche's not immune to fear?
21:12.59Aenslaedeh... your rogues are bad then -_-
21:13.10trh_i think warlocks will get beaten to uselessness with the nerf-stick
21:13.13trh_someday.... *dreaming*
21:13.14Antiarc|WorkHe is, but he just kited him to Forge Camp: Hate and chain enslaved felguards to tank/kill him.
21:13.18Aenslaedaran is damage meter padding heaven
21:13.24kenlyricnice!
21:13.39kergothAntiarc|Work: hah, nice
21:13.44Fisker-need tehm palas
21:14.06Heriopadding heaven? how so?
21:14.21Antiarc|WorkIt's a threatless fight, for the most part.
21:14.38AenslaedHerio: rogues dont have to move at all
21:14.59AenslaedHerio: just stand there and backstab/ss/snd whatever spec you are.
21:15.01Heriowhen you got salv, most fights, agro isn't an issue, reasonably
21:15.05Aenslaedkick what you are assigned, then keep going
21:15.27NightHawkTheSanefor shaman its still an issue. >.>
21:15.38snirkstrh_: how far are you in ssc?
21:15.41Herioenchancement?
21:15.42CIA-1103saroz * r32372 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Change some priorities
21:15.48deltronlol
21:15.48NightHawkTheSaneHerio: er, yeah.
21:15.53deltronI can't live without salv :P
21:15.57deltronliterally
21:15.59ckknightso tell me, what's the best race for a priest? (Alliance)
21:16.05NightHawkTheSanedorf
21:16.05deltronckknight: night elf male
21:16.08Aenslaeddwarf
21:16.09deltronlol
21:16.13Heriodorf or draenei
21:16.14Sarozdwarf
21:16.17deltronwhat about draenei
21:16.18Sarozor draenei
21:16.19Aenslaeddesperate prayer and fearward is still better
21:16.20Heriowhatever gets you fearward =P
21:16.24NightHawkTheSanedwarf > draenei. stoneform > another hot
21:16.38deltronthat said, fear ward is overrated
21:16.40Heriotru
21:16.40Aenslaeddranei just get a group mana regen ability
21:16.41snirksstoneform only VS physical or spelldmg too?
21:16.53NightHawkTheSaneits an armor buff.. soooo
21:16.57Aenslaedwhich is better for pve I guess, but desperate prayer is too good.
21:16.58NightHawkTheSanebut it removes poisons and bleeds
21:17.11snirksi've no idea
21:17.14snirksim horde
21:17.15Aenslaedyeah, racials are better too. Unless you are a shadow priest.
21:17.16NightHawkTheSaneand disease too, but as a preist you can do that anyway
21:17.53trh_snirks: we didn't started in ssc/gruul, not enough people in the guild
21:17.56trh_snirks: yet
21:18.15snirksok kinda good :)
21:18.25snirksthe SSC trash would just
21:18.29snirksdestroy any sanity you have
21:18.42AenslaedNightHawkTheSane: the inspiring presence is nice for shadow priests though.
21:19.01NightHawkTheSaneAenslaed: true
21:19.01trh_snirks: but the people we have are learning very fast, usually we only have few wipes and then down it
21:19.02Aenslaedand the mana regen talent would be good for their role in a raid.  DPS but vamp touch/mana regen for group.
21:19.17NightHawkTheSanehow much mana regen does it give?
21:19.18Aenslaedstill take a dwarf for pvp/pve healing
21:19.30Aenslaed1500 I think? For the entire group
21:19.44Aenslaedits an activatable mp5 buff for 5 seconds
21:19.47Aenslaed15seconds
21:19.49NightHawkTheSanenot bad
21:20.26Aenslaedbut i'm just counting the days till shadow priest utility in raids is nerfed into the ground.
21:21.11Herioprogression wise, is magtheridon before or after ssc? or where in the middle? =P
21:21.32AenslaedHerio: my guild downed hydross before mag, but both are pretty much the same
21:21.44Aenslaedyou need a 3rd warlock for mag which we didn't have.  Hydross you can cheese
21:21.52NightHawkTheSanei think in the general sense, its intended to be before ssc
21:21.55snirksAenslaed: did you swap between nr frost or keep him in nr?
21:22.03Aenslaedkept him in nr
21:22.12snirksyeah ok
21:22.15snirksand the loot got sharded?
21:22.16Heriowe have 4 locks >.<
21:22.18Herioor 5 lol
21:22.22Aenslaedsnirks: pretty much
21:22.31Aenslaedsnirks: I want that trinket though >.<
21:22.42snirksAenslaed: its rubbish of blizz to release a zone with trash like that
21:22.59snirkswe've done hydross two or three times, i think a druid has picked up a trinket
21:23.01snirksrest been sharded
21:23.16Aenslaedprobably.  Loot in general is pretty silly.  It just means that everyone is getting a full set of gear out of the stuff past here
21:23.26Aenslaedblack citadel/hyjal etc.
21:23.52Aenslaedsnirks: yeah.  The trinket is so nice, except for me. Feral druid/tank in the raid >.<
21:24.07snirksare you talking about the 35 def trinket+
21:24.12Aenslaedcatform gets only 55str (132ap_
21:24.16snirksah that one
21:24.19Aenslaed)
21:24.26trh_imo the equipment difference between gruul/ssc and so on and karazhan is so minimal it doesn't make much sense to do the 25mans
21:24.38trh_granted, that they want to change that
21:24.39snirksword trh_
21:24.42deltronit doesn't make much sense to play TBC :P
21:24.43Aenslaedtier 4 is good for some classes
21:24.47trh_but at the moment .... :)
21:24.48NightHawkTheSaneI hope they don't change that. >.>
21:24.59deltronI have 3 tier 4 sets to choose from :P
21:25.16snirkst4 bp + legs for warrior tank is sidegrade
21:25.20trh_Aenslaed: ah well.. as a hunter it doesnt matter what i wear, i still don't do good dps compared to squishies
21:25.38Aenslaedsnirk: yeah, the panzar bp is too good
21:25.51snirkswell the BPs are similar
21:25.55Aenslaedtrh_: just be glad you got misdirect or there'd be no point in bringing hunters
21:25.58snirksbut wrynn legs just owns t4 legs
21:26.13trh_Aenslaed: even misdirect isn't that much needed
21:26.14snirksand if i replaced my panzarthar with t4 it
21:26.18Aenslaedtrh_: sure it is
21:26.22snirks'd just be a waste of 300 dkp
21:26.26trh_Aenslaed: not in karazhan
21:26.32Aenslaedtrh_: it makes things so much smoother with the initial pull
21:26.37Heriopsh DKP?
21:26.41Heriowe roll
21:26.43Aenslaedcan you imagine how much of a pita maulgar would be without misdirects?
21:27.10trh_Aenslaed: never did him, but in karazhan it's not needed
21:27.21snirksif you want to get places you cant really roll
21:27.22trh_Aenslaed: its a nice thing to have, but not necessary there
21:27.28AenslaedWell, yeah. Karazhan is pretty simple.
21:27.30snirksand once you implement rules you're not really rolling are you
21:27.41trh_Aenslaed: but anyway.. blizzard fucked up the hunter class badly
21:27.56Aenslaedin pve maybe.
21:27.59trh_ya
21:28.02Heriodiscretion ftw?
21:28.04trh_pve raid dps
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21:28.05Aenslaedpvp they are fine.
21:28.26Aenslaedstill, misdirect. We live and die by how well our hunters used that.
21:28.28Aenslaeduse*
21:28.30snirksHerio: like "common sense"?
21:28.34trh_they work in pvp.. but they aren't as good as a mage or warlock in arena pvp
21:28.35Herioyep
21:28.40snirksdoesnt work
21:28.45Aenslaedtrh_: different role in pvp...
21:29.04snirksunless you're 25 RL rfiends with a main guy who use steroids and pumps iron and can kick the ass of emo ppl
21:29.06Aenslaedstack on gladiator gear, stick a frost trap in the middle, bam. Other team's melee is running around in circles getting kited.
21:29.25Aenslaedsilencing shot healers. scatter what you miss.  /assist.
21:29.31Herioyour guild needs to put it on FFA
21:29.39trh_Aenslaed: ya... and due to that, very useless in 2vs2 and 3vs3
21:29.41Heriogood way to weed out the fuck sticks =P
21:29.53Aenslaedtrh_: 5v5 is the only bracket that counts! ;p
21:30.02snirkswe use ffa
21:30.17Aenslaedyeah, ffa so nobody accidentally clicks greed
21:30.38NightHawkTheSaneAnyone here a resto specced shammy, out of curiosity?
21:30.45snirksi used to play shammy
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21:31.23deltronNightHawkTheSane: I am a former resto shammy
21:31.54snirksanyways, past kara and maulgar you use warrior for everything. Now, my former guild who is all rolling and FFA and shit gave shoulders to a druid instead of their MT
21:31.56NightHawkTheSaneI'm just curious as to the best way to, and relative effectiveness of, grinding as resto
21:32.04Aenslaedrespec ;p
21:32.11deltronNightHawkTheSane: elemental :)
21:32.18deltronNightHawkTheSane: what level are you?
21:32.20NightHawkTheSanelol
21:32.32deltronseriously
21:32.33NightHawkTheSaneWell i'm 70, but I've been enh specced the entire time.
21:32.45snirksNightHawkTheSane: depends. the best way for exp is continous blood furnace runs
21:32.48deltronI tried to level resto from 60-64, it was PAINFUL
21:32.52snirksand resto shaman should get group there
21:33.04Aenslaedno point being healing bitch spec before 70
21:33.19Aenslaedsince its so much faster to just quest to 70
21:33.26deltronNightHawkTheSane: I'm a fairly new enh shaman :P
21:33.42deltronI'd rather get the initial rep from instances till I hit a cap
21:33.49deltronthen start questing
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21:34.02NightHawkTheSaneI like enhance, it's fun. But damn if it's not a pain getting groups.
21:34.10deltronyeah tell me about it
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21:34.20snirksyou die
21:34.22snirksyou take agro
21:34.25deltronno cc, but dps like a rogue or better :P
21:34.26snirksyou cant heal well
21:34.33snirksi hate grouping with enhancement shamans
21:34.34deltronmakes it fairly hard for heroics
21:34.48snirksthey forget WF totem
21:34.49deltronyou gotta play enh shaman fairly safe
21:34.53snirksthey wanna use agi totem and stuff
21:34.57snirksthey're just trouble
21:34.58deltrondepends on the tank
21:35.05trh_paladin > shaman
21:35.07deltronif it's a druid tank dropping wf is lame
21:35.07NightHawkTheSanesnirks: well, i rarely die, and always use WF if a warrior is tanking. :P
21:35.20NightHawkTheSaneI usually always drop whatever's best for the tank.
21:35.43NightHawkTheSaneUnless I get some idiotic warrior who actually asks for GoA over WF. o_0
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21:35.50Aenslaedwell
21:35.56NightHawkTheSane^^ actually happened. i boggled.
21:35.56AenslaedGoA for tanking is far far better
21:35.58deltroni think I'm gonna back to resto heh
21:36.05NightHawkTheSaneAenslaed: no, not for 5 mans
21:36.07Aenslaedon raid content
21:36.28Aenslaedyeah, on 5mans you can dps tank most stuff.  But on raid content, GoA if you are in warrior group
21:36.34snirksas with all things, its situational
21:36.45snirksfor all raid trash i want wf
21:36.50NightHawkTheSaneEven on raid content, if it's trash, as a warrior i'd rather have wf. goa on bosses is probably better though
21:36.54snirksfor engaging all bosses i want wf
21:37.07Aenslaedmisdirect -_-
21:37.11snirksswapping to goa later on is fine but its just crucial
21:38.03Aenslaedmake your hunters use misdirect -_-  Its like a good 3k threat for nothing
21:38.08xlviii hate misdirection.
21:38.09snirksthey do
21:38.13snirksof course they do
21:38.14xlviifuckin' hunters put it on me
21:38.19xlviiand i'm a rogue.
21:38.19xlvii-.-
21:38.22NightHawkTheSanexlvii: hahaha
21:38.26trh_xlvii: seems they don't like you
21:38.28kergothlol
21:38.37xlviihence why i quit my guild last night ;
21:38.38xlvii;p
21:38.43kergoth"I'm bored, lets watch the rogue go squish"
21:38.52NightHawkTheSaneI did a bwl run with some friends a week or so ago. All the hunters kept putting misdirect on the guild leader, who was on his alt pally at the time. :P
21:38.53Gngskxlvii, macro /cancelaura misdirection
21:39.14trh_i have a macro for hunter's mark on enemy and setfocus on friendly and a macro to misdirect on my focus
21:39.25trh_so i usually never misdirect to the wrong person
21:39.41trh_at least not by accident... :)
21:39.53AenslaedActually. Hunters were another weed out class in TBC i found
21:39.54NightHawkTheSane"Usually never" == "I'm bored, let's watch the rogue go squish" :P
21:40.02trh_NightHawkTheSane: hehe.. yeah
21:40.10Aenslaedso many hunters who were 'ok' in naxx were just utter trash in tbc.
21:40.23Aenslaedcause they had to do more than autoshot/afk
21:40.32trh_NightHawkTheSane: esp. because our rogue is a good friend and if he makes fun of hunters he gets misdirect ;)
21:40.39NightHawkTheSanehaha
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21:40.42snirkswhat class do you play NightHawkTheSane
21:40.55NightHawkTheSanesnirks: I've got a 70 warrior and a 70 shaman.
21:41.09trh_Aenslaed: the problem with hunters is that the damage doesnt scale proper to the gear
21:41.12snirksname of warrior pls?
21:41.19Aenslaedtrh_: oh, we're not talking about dps
21:41.27trh_Aenslaed: in bad raids, hunters do like 750dps, mages like 600, no one complains about hunter dps in the boards
21:41.31NightHawkTheSane'Annia', on hakkar, to be sure.
21:41.44trh_Aenslaed: in good raids, hunters still do 750, and mages like 1500
21:42.09Aenslaedtrh_: nobody really has anything to say about the dps of the class. We go by relative performance. You are slacking if you are more than 10% from the next highest of the same class
21:42.34kergothslacking or inept
21:42.36xlviiaha..
21:42.40trh_Aenslaed: true.. but only over a long time
21:42.45Aenslaedboss fights
21:42.48snirksis that like USA maybe
21:42.53NightHawkTheSaneyeah
21:42.55Aenslaeddont care about trash as long as it gets killed
21:42.56xlviithat reminds me, my first guild raid, i was responsible for 30% of the damage.
21:43.03trh_Aenslaed: so much crit luck and daily fitness involved
21:43.13Aenslaeddaily fitness?
21:43.14Aenslaedwhat
21:43.15trh_xlvii: warlock?
21:43.18trh_Aenslaed: daily form
21:43.20xlviitrh_, rogue.
21:43.41trh_Aenslaed: like you have to pay alot of attention
21:43.45Aenslaedtrh_: oh, patterning
21:44.04trh_Aenslaed: and depending on your "condition", like sleepiness and stuff it changes
21:44.20trh_playing a hunter isn't 2 buttons anymore
21:44.29Aenslaedoh... uh.  Thats really not a concern for most people. -_-
21:44.31trh_only 1 now... but at the right time ;)
21:44.31xlviiit's one.
21:45.01Aenslaedyeah. It really surprised me when i rolled my hunter alt, how much you could slack off and nobody would know
21:45.18trh_Aenslaed: it does matter alot with hunters.. like 40% difference in damage from the same person
21:45.31kergothplaying my hunter alt is so easy after playing my rogue.  so used to timing abilities based on the energy tick, its just autoattack instead of energy to monitor
21:45.46trh_kergoth: solo pve?
21:46.07trh_ya.. hunter is very very easy-mode in solo pve
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21:46.15Aenslaedeven raid pve
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21:46.16trh_probably the easiest class
21:46.27snirksany pure tank-to-the-bone here?
21:46.35trh_Aenslaed: depends
21:46.35snirksthat does coding?
21:47.17Aenslaedtrh_: with all the tranq macros out there, and the same aimshot autoshot multishot etc etc rotation
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21:47.20trh_Aenslaed: if you let your hunters do trapping and some CC, misdirect in situations it's alot harder then a warlock
21:47.28Aenslaedtrap what -_-
21:47.36Aenslaedthere's only magtheridon who needs traps
21:47.38trh_Aenslaed: well.. there are some trash mobs ;)
21:47.44Aenslaedwhich our hunters failed spectacularly at
21:47.53trh_Aenslaed: ya.. traps suck alot
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21:48.01trh_Aenslaed: they are the worst crowd-control available
21:48.20Aenslaedno, their job was to put down a freezing trap at all times to catch the infernals
21:48.21SquishemHardwho?
21:48.22trh_Aenslaed: and for dps you have to watch your autoshot
21:48.25Aenslaedthey forgot to do that.
21:48.34snirksAenslaed: incompetance
21:48.35trh_Aenslaed: warlocks just hit their dot button and are good
21:48.44snirksAenslaed: neg them
21:48.51Aenslaedsnirks: i know. And these same hunters were doing good in naxx
21:49.09trh_Aenslaed: ok.. then they just suck
21:49.11snirksAenslaed: just neg them 500dkp
21:49.21Aenslaedjust boggles my mind how much the class covers for shitty players.
21:49.29Aenslaedsnirks: we never deduct dkp. We just stop inviting you to raids.
21:49.40snirkshaha
21:49.45snirksthats too nice
21:49.47Aenslaedtrh_: actually, magtheridon is hard as a warlock.
21:49.49trh_Aenslaed: try testing your mages/warlocks
21:49.49snirksin the end you wont have people
21:49.56snirksfor some fights we neg ppl if they die
21:50.04Aenslaedsnirks: not really.  If they dont raid, they are a social. Benchwarm till they gquit in frustration
21:50.13Aenslaedtrh_: most of our mages were fine. Except for 1
21:50.24snirksone of our hunters left for Nihilum today
21:50.28snirkshe's gonna sit on the bench
21:50.28Aenslaedwe rode his ass and benched him till he started caring again.
21:50.30snirksthey always bring 1 hunter
21:50.44snirksbut they reqruited ours prolly juts to be on the safe side
21:51.01trh_Aenslaed: well on our server you find the bad players usually within the mages
21:51.09SarozSecureRaidGroupHeaderTemplate only has two SortMethods?
21:51.10Sarozsux
21:51.11trh_Aenslaed: they arent bad at dps and can sheep
21:51.20FryGuy_in my experience, hunters are the worst players on average
21:51.23trh_Aenslaed: but as soon as something unforeseen happens, they suck and die
21:51.26Aenslaedtrh_: yeah.  Same applies.  But to be honest, its so much easier to play a mage now
21:51.40trh_Aenslaed: not using frost nova, elementals, spellsteal and so one
21:51.42trh_on
21:51.52Aenslaedinvis to drop aggro. built in casting bars for those addon challenged
21:52.12Aenslaedreally not all that hard anymore -_-
21:52.18snirksenjoy yourselves, gotta sleep here in Norway
21:52.22snirksbye
21:52.22trh_FryGuy_: if you subtract the china farmers i'd say it's not different to warriors or other classes
21:52.25Aenslaedsnirks: later.
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21:52.52SquishemHardI purged a mages AP in the eye yesterday...made me smile
21:53.20NightHawkTheSanei like purge, its fun.
21:53.43trh_i wish i had a useful ability
21:53.48SquishemHardI was trying to think of something I could do thats really annoying...like a [aly bubble or AP/POM Pyro
21:53.59Aenslaedpurge used to be so much bullshit -_-
21:54.07Aenslaed90 mana, puts you in combat
21:54.12trh_i should get a t-shirt "i leveled a hunter to 70, and all i got was the lousy snake trap"
21:54.13SquishemHardThen I saw Purge and *insert evil smile*
21:54.25AenslaedI'd get the crap purged out of me all the time on my warrior.
21:54.32Aenslaedbefore i could charge
21:54.40Temwhat's different about purge now?
21:54.41deltron<3 purge
21:54.43ckknighthey all
21:54.46Aenslaedmana cost is alot higher
21:54.51Aenslaedand you can't purge if they got no buffs
21:55.12NightHawkTheSaneyeah, before you could purge someone and it'd drop them in combat, regardless if whether they had anything to purge
21:55.21Temah
21:55.29NightHawkTheSanesame with any dispel, really
21:55.46Aenslaedyeah, but 90 mana... only gcd -_-
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21:56.17SquishemHarddoesnt matter what it is now, as resto i have craploads of mana
21:56.48Antiarc|WorkBut you can't purge if the target has no buffs
21:56.54Antiarc|WorkWhich is the other piece of the puzzle
21:56.57SquishemHardohh well
21:57.06NightHawkTheSanethe bigger piece, reallyP
21:57.23SquishemHardCharge + Whack.... Earth Shield Heals you for more damage than you took
21:57.30Aenslaedit saves mana i guess, but you can't use it to keep people in combat like you used to.
21:57.41Aenslaedwhich is clutch in arena
21:57.51CIA-1103fleetfoot * r32374 10DarkCandy/DarkCandy.lua:
21:57.51CIA-11DarkCandy:
21:57.51CIA-11- Naughty debug.
21:57.53Fisker-fucking bitch
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21:58.07Fisker-Took my mace just out of spite that i took a healing cloak
21:58.30SquishemHardBTW, I tried to convert some AGUF Layouts to PitBull and almost killed myself at how different the 2 formats look
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22:00.12Aenslaedwhee. After 1 week of reforming my pvp group, we're back up to 1930 rating with 2 new people
22:00.20Aenslaed*Arena
22:00.22trh_1930 rating.. nice
22:00.35trh_our 5vs5 group is lame.. only 1 healer.. we lose constantly ;)
22:00.37Aenslaedone is a warrior who just hit 70 -_-
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22:01.17Aenslaedwho is wearing greens still jesus
22:01.37trh_Aenslaed: well.. there are some green items which are hard to replace
22:01.44deltrongod this suck
22:01.48Aenslaedshoulders -_-
22:01.50deltronI hate xp embedded sometimes
22:01.53trh_Aenslaed: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30295
22:01.57trh_Aenslaed: those maybe? ;)
22:02.15Aenslaedno
22:02.20deltronthere's plenty you can replace those with :P
22:02.23AenslaedSylvanaar Champion's Shoulders
22:02.41trh_deltron: ya, but they all require you to run boring 5mans
22:02.56deltronlol
22:02.58trh_deltron: except for random blue drops ;)
22:03.29Heriohttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30295 got nerfed
22:03.55Heriowith linux?
22:03.56trh_deltron: uh.. doesnt it?
22:03.58Herio...
22:04.03deltronnot for me
22:04.05Heriofire fox + jre isn't enough?
22:04.06trh_deltron: it works in firefox
22:04.16trh_deltron: so why shouldn't work it in linux' firefox?
22:04.21Herioemerge JRE
22:04.32deltronnot with new ff, flash9, and jre
22:04.48deltronunless it's ubuntu hehe
22:05.05kergothis ubuntu using the renamed ff the way debian is?
22:05.25deltronstill firefox
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22:05.39kergothhm, was wondering if that was the problem, it doesnt owrk for me either
22:05.54kergothdebian uses "iceweasel", since mozilla doesnt allow non-official builds to be called firefox anymore
22:05.56deltronnever been able to click inside that damn box
22:07.25CIA-1103saroz * r32375 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: Add ability to remove a frame from a filter
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22:13.17deltronlol
22:13.28deltronthe armory thread is very lol-worthy
22:13.55deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=79628029&sid=1&pageNo=1
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22:26.43CIA-1103chuckg * r32376 10SpellWatch/Menu.lua:
22:26.43CIA-11SpellWatch:
22:26.43CIA-11- Fixed up the copy function. (Polleke)
22:28.41Stephmwlol, http://gucomics.com/comic/
22:30.28NightHawkTheSaneStephmw: haha
22:32.25StephmwI do agree that botting kills the game though
22:32.54KirkburnI recommend everyone listens to this: http://homophobelol.ytmnd.com/
22:32.54NightHawkTheSaneyeah. but its not the only thing, either
22:33.22Kirkburn(the link is naturally ytmnd, but the subject is serious)
22:34.33StephmwI guess that randomizing nodes (fish, mines, herbs... mobs!) by some error margin around the spawn would probably make botting a tad harder
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22:35.38NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn: nice
22:36.04KirkburnIt's the best reponse I've ever heard, I have to say
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22:39.03MyrathiEvenin', peeps. Roartindon around?
22:40.06kergothhe's in the channel, thats a good sign.  he's one of those silly folk that actually log off of irc at times
22:40.17Gnarfozhe knows his verses, that's for sure :)
22:40.20Myrathi:O
22:40.28MyrathiWait.. he logs off between sessions?!
22:40.30MyrathiHeresy!
22:40.34kergothquite
22:40.40Gnarfozhe has 'sessions'?
22:40.48MyrathiDoesn't eveyone? <_<
22:40.53Gnarfoz24/7!
22:41.02ckknighthehe, Kirkburn
22:41.48ckknightKirkburn: that is a good response wrt homosexuality in the bible
22:41.48MyrathiAhh. You munge all your sessions together. I categorise mine.
22:41.48Kirkburnckknight, I need to get a transcript of it :)
22:41.49Myrathi;)
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22:42.13ckknightKirkburn: I have another gay-related thing, here: http://www.amazinginfoonhomosexuals.com/blog.php/m/c/resin_in_rectum/
22:42.26kergothi'm so not clicking on that
22:42.33ckknightit's lol-worthy
22:42.33KirkburnI saw it last night :)
22:42.35Heriohttp://arelaxingsoothinghentaimoment.ytmnsfw.com/
22:42.39Herioimo
22:42.39KirkburnIt's not got 'bad' pics
22:43.05MyrathiRoartindon: Have a diff for your LootTypeFu addon, if you're interested? :P
22:43.05KirkburnIt's about a medical ... uh ... issue
22:43.07MyrathiAnd.. y'know..
22:43.22MyrathiI think I'll just PM him the stuffs.
22:43.23ckknightit's about someone putting concrete mix in their anus
22:43.35ckknight*thumbs up*
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22:43.51Kirkburnckknight, tried it, have you? :)
22:44.05NightHawkTheSaneits his weekend entertainment
22:44.06kergothboo for medical technology, people that stupid shouldnt survive their exploits
22:44.12KirkburnHerio, is that like the first time you've seen that stuff? :O
22:44.17ckknightlol, no
22:44.37Gnarfozkergoth: darwin awards! :D
22:44.43ckknightkergoth: surely we're facing a regression towards the mean
22:44.47KirkburnHerio, find me an animated one at least! :)
22:45.27Herio...
22:45.36kergothckknight: it really worries me that its the dumbasses doing the most reproducing.
22:45.40Herioit's the juxtaposition of the music and the picture =P
22:45.57HerioI'm not a fan of tentacle rape, more of a lolicon man my self
22:46.02Herio>.>
22:47.11Heriochannel dies
22:47.21CIA-1103kemayo * r32377 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: (log message trimmed)
22:47.21CIA-11Quixote: Incorporate a patch from Sam, providing:
22:47.21CIA-11-:GetUniqueId(quest). Generates a hopefully unique id from various aspects of
22:47.21CIA-11the quest information. (I might want to jump in and change this to be
22:47.21CIA-11locale-independent for quests which have item rewards by having it hash from the
22:47.21CIA-11itemids and level. We'll see.)
22:47.25CIA-11-:GetQuestByUniqueId(id).
22:47.56KemayoAww, commit notes cut off.
22:48.25NightHawkTheSaneyeah, it does that. was there something pithy later on? :P
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22:51.31KemayoThere was just a disclaimer on one of the later changes saying that I'd messed with part of it, and if it broke then I should be blamed instead of the patch-provider.
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22:52.57NightHawkTheSanewell, im sure you'll be blamed regardless. no one ever reads patch notes :)
22:53.11AenslaedDoes anyone know how to apply a unified diff patch to a php file?
22:53.19kergoths/patch notes :\)//
22:53.25NightHawkTheSane'man patch'
22:53.41NightHawkTheSanekergoth: lol, so true.
22:53.53tlundAenslaed: you apply unified diffs with the command "patch"
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22:54.09Aenslaedits built into windows?
22:54.32NightHawkTheSaneoh, well if you're on windows...
22:54.54NightHawkTheSaneopen a cmd prompt and type 'format c:', then go download some *nix cds ;)
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22:55.06Aenslaedthere's a fix for an exploit on the forum software i'm running
22:55.42Aenslaedthe fix is in unified diff. I can provide the file and the contents of the unified diff, but I lack the means to do anything about it
22:55.47kergoththeres probably a patch binary in the ms unix bits
22:55.50kergothor cygwin, or..
22:56.04Aenslaedunless someone here can do this for me?
22:56.05NightHawkTheSaneor google for 'windows patch'
22:56.40Aenslaeda ton of windows update sites ;p
22:57.32NightHawkTheSanehttp://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
22:58.18Aenslaedthanks
22:58.26Gnarfozis very deep retribution (like this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=qZZEfctM0zVIot ) ok to try ret out (am level 54)?
22:59.50Chrisiguys, i'd have a question regarding WoW Ace
23:00.11Chrisihow does it work? i've seen there are multiple add on's which are appealing to me
23:00.28Chrisido i have to install something first, or *should* i install something first?
23:00.31kergothit's a set of libraries that make addon development easier.  as a user, you needn't worry about it, really.
23:00.38kergoththe addons that use it will include it.
23:00.41Chrisihmm
23:00.44ZiconYou download the addons which appeal to you, you install them, you use them. You don't worry about anything else.
23:00.49kergothexactly
23:00.52Chrisiso every addon will include the library it needs?
23:01.08kergothif it doesnt, its broken, and you get to happily yell at its developer
23:01.10*** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=Jason@adsl-76-214-144-114.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net)
23:01.50Chrisiso there's even no option to install the libraries i need in a central place where all add ons that need them can take them?
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23:02.09kergoththats correct.  you -can- install them standalone like that, but you dont have to.
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23:02.19Ziconchrisi: Why would you want the hassle?
23:02.33kergothif multiple addons include a given library, then only the most recent version will be resident in memory, there's no duplication there
23:02.36AenslaedNightHawkTheSane: ok. there's a patch.exe in the thing you linked, but no instructions on how to use it
23:02.36kergothjust grab the addons and use them, its best that way
23:02.39Chrisii c kergoth
23:03.04NightHawkTheSaneAenslaed: I'd wager it takes the same parameters as the unix patch utility, so you can probably google for a man page.
23:03.18Chrisizicon: because i thought if there are multiple versions of a library that would be .... well, bad?
23:03.19NightHawkTheSaneAenslaed: I'm on a mac, so I don't really know. :\
23:03.25kergothChrisi: read what i just said
23:03.29kergoth:)
23:03.36Chrisizicon: or even multiple libraries of the same version
23:03.48Chrisikergoth: yeah, u answered that issue ;-)
23:03.53Ziconchrisi: That's only with bad libraries. ;)
23:03.53Mikmahttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/7238/free-bot/
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23:04.09AenslaedNightHawkTheSane: all I know is that there is an 'sql injection' exploit on my forums and that a fix exists in unified diff.  I'm not even sure what this all is. :/
23:04.21Chrisiso there's no need to worry about multiple identical libraries being in memory?
23:04.26kergothits a rudamentary package management / library versioning system.  if multiple minor versions of a lib try to load, newer upgrade the older, and ones older than the current one in ram wont load at all.
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23:05.09vhaarrChrisi: You can read about this on the wiki and probably in several forum threads.
23:05.44Chrisivhaarr: i tried the wiki out, had troubles to find these points though, so i thought i might check the chat
23:06.57vhaarryeah wikis suck
23:07.16*** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net)
23:07.19Chrisiusually not :P
23:07.26kergothwikis are nice for what they're designed for, they're just overused
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23:07.47SkorcherXhello
23:07.49vhaarrright
23:08.14SkorcherXdoes anyone know any basic c++, and would talk with me for a minute or two?
23:08.17NightHawkTheSaneAenslaed: ahh, well a unified diff just specifies the differences between two files. 'patch' is a utility that will apply those differences to the original file, so you end up with the new file.
23:08.35vhaarrChrisi: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns
23:09.06NightHawkTheSaneAenslaed: you might try doing 'patch.exe --help', and looking over that, as it probably tells you what options it has and how to invoke it.
23:09.30Aenslaedoh, double dash
23:09.31Chrisivhaarr: thx
23:09.39AenslaedI tried /? but lol dos
23:09.42NightHawkTheSanehehe
23:10.18NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i imagine it's a fairly direct port of the unix util, so options would be specified in the command
23:10.40Herioyou know what would be loverly?
23:10.48Herioaloft + dogtag
23:10.55Aenslaedok, what if the patch file has this trunk/folder/folder/filename.php line at the top? Do I have to set up directories like that locally?
23:10.56kergothindeed
23:11.07kergothAenslaed: you use the -p commandline option to strip off parts of the path.
23:11.10kergothread the man page
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23:11.20kergoth-p 1 would remove trunk/ in that case
23:11.25kergoth-p2 trunk/folder
23:11.27kergothetc
23:11.29CIA-1103roartindon * r32378 10Aloft/ (22 files in 4 dirs):
23:11.29CIA-11Aloft
23:11.29CIA-11- Changed how outline options worked, allowing for easier localization
23:11.30CIA-11- Separated AloftFu out from Aloft
23:11.30CIA-11- Changed OnMenuRequest to a generic Options table
23:11.30CIA-11- Merged localization into Aloft.lua
23:12.56Mikmahttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Internet_map_1024.jpg
23:13.55RoartindonMyrathi: ping
23:14.05NightHawkTheSaneMikma: http://xkcd.com/c195.html
23:17.31OminousJJSheets:
23:17.38JJSheetsyes?
23:17.45Ominousthere is a cooldown bug if a move has a cooldown and is also affected by GC
23:17.55Ominousand it shows GC not main cooldown
23:18.34Mikmajj is screwed with those cooldowns, lol
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23:18.56JJSheetsI have a big commit incoming... I'd rather fix bugs on the update, rather than on old code.
23:19.14Aenslaedkergoth: I get errors at this line "@@ -646,4 +646,13 @@" 5th line of the patch
23:19.34Aenslaedsaying unexpected end.  Can you shed some light on this?
23:20.00JJSheetscourse I wanna check my new code... it's drycoded... :)
23:20.51mjchttp://www.incident1.com/
23:23.29OminousJJSheets: also can you specify the treestyle as treestyle as it keeps buggung to the other style of tree when another addons sets it and that dosent work
23:23.39Ominousfor waterfall
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23:24.45NeoTronRoartindon: show me a hawlt aloft screenshot so I know that I want it >:-)
23:24.54SkorcherXhello
23:25.27RoartindonNeoTron: The one in the forums thread isn't hot enough? :P
23:26.02JJSheetsOminous, what do you mean treestyle?  treeType = 'TREE'?  if so that's the default according to the Wiki...
23:26.18Ominousyea but it keeps bgging
23:26.20Ominousand changing
23:26.32chuckgWish I could bribe someone into adding oUF to Pitbull.
23:26.33chuckg=D
23:26.41JJSheetsI blame waterfall... but I'll add it in... :)
23:26.52Heriotrac should be exluded from the google search box >.<
23:28.29mjchttp://googlemapsapi.blogspot.com/2007/03/v275-gmarkersetimage-and-mole-whack.html
23:31.02Herio51
23:31.09Heriohow did everyone else do?
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23:34.48HerioRoartindon: ping!
23:35.02Roartindonherio: pong
23:36.04OminousJJSheets: also textures with items are odd, they dont remove if you drag them
23:36.04NeoTronRoartindon: I don't read the forums ;-)
23:36.33JJSheetsOminous, because there isn't a PickupItem function items cannot be dragged off of bars.
23:36.47RoartindonNeoTron: One of the early screenshots: http://bc.onoro.us/aloft.jpg
23:36.47JJSheetsbitch at Blizzard for it.
23:36.49Heriohave you considered dogtag for aloft? cause it would be loverly
23:37.03OminousJJSheets: hmm k, other action bars seem to be able to do it?
23:37.12JJSheetsthey use action ids.
23:37.22Ominousah, k
23:37.47JJSheetsnote... I have already made a request for a PickupItem function... no response yet.
23:38.02RoartindonHerio: DogTag requires unitids.. aloft has to infer all it can, without ever using a unitid
23:38.24Herioah
23:38.31HerioI suspected
23:38.42Heriooh well =(
23:38.51RoartindonThe information Aloft gets is a name, a level, a boss icon and a health %..
23:38.57RoartindonThe rest of it, is done by inference
23:39.11RoartindonAnd the original color of the bar
23:39.18Chrisiquestion: garbage collection is done by the game automatically, right? in which intervall?
23:39.23NeoTronhow do you get more info than that?
23:39.47RoartindonNeoTron.. looking up databases :)
23:40.03RoartindonIf original colour = blue, and database[name], then we have class information
23:40.29Roartindonif original colour = red, and database[name], then it's a hostile player
23:40.49RoartindonIf original colour = blue, and roster can resolve it, then it's in our group
23:40.52Roartindonetc. etc.
23:41.11NeoTronaha
23:41.24NeoTronso you store data about people you target for example
23:42.00RoartindonYep
23:42.24RoartindonThere's a module that's dedicated to collecting class data of players.. from target, mouseover, battlegrounds, friends list, guild list, etc.
23:43.50Gnarfozshort: nameplate modification is complicated, kind of messy, requires a sound mind to keep track of what you do but gives shiny results? :D
23:44.36JJSheetsAloft is definitely shiny results.
23:44.44NightHawkTheSanes/requires a sound mind to keep track/drives you crazy keeping track/
23:44.51JJSheetslol
23:48.09RoartindonGnarfoz: Yeah, but I think I've structured Aloft now to be really clean; if people want to write addon modules, they don't have to worry about most of the mess
23:48.12MikmaRoartindon: nice job on externals!
23:48.22CIA-1103ammo * r32379 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0: fix [fkey] tag error
23:48.35MikmaAloft.lua:4: Cannot find a library instance of SharedMedia-1.0
23:48.42Mikma*golfclap*
23:50.35RoartindonMikma: You running disembedded?
23:50.43Mikmano
23:50.46Roartindonhmm..
23:50.47Roartindonlet me check
23:50.51Mikmai just checkouted it with all the externals fron svn
23:51.12RoartindonI tested it just yesterday with 0 other addons in the directory and it worked fine
23:51.35GnarfozI did too, works fine
23:51.49Mikmai just checkouted it with all the externals fron svn
23:51.57Mikmafresh copy ftwq!
23:52.13RoartindonMikma: Check that your svn checkout was completely successful... I've had it stop half way through libs before
23:52.17GnarfozI had a missing AceLocale-2.2 error from MobHealth yesterday at work
23:52.33Gnarfozwhich was kind of ... weird oO
23:52.46Gnarfozperhaps there's something up with the server or I don't know :D
23:52.53MikmaRoartindon: all the externals are there
23:53.08Roartindonrelaunch wow? :P
23:53.24Mikmai blame you, not wow!
23:54.04Mikmai deleted my Aloft SV and so on, retesting
23:55.14Gnarfozbtw
23:55.26Mikmamaybe it was old sv borking, who knows
23:55.31Gnarfozaloft keeps reporting the current nameplate status when I zone
23:56.21MikmaGnarfoz: i see an option there to turn it off
23:56.30Mikma[x] Report Status Changed
23:56.34Mikmachanges*
23:56.38GnarfozI see one to turn reporting off when I change the status
23:56.55GnarfozI didn't tho.
23:57.05Gnarfozit's the same status as before :)
23:57.32Gngskgruul is pretty boring when he's not using shatter
23:58.48Garoun|Loupanabah, added new font option to pitbull but didn't give an optionto change it's size :P
23:59.08CIA-1103roartindon * r32380 10Aloft/ (. Aloft.toc Extras/AloftFu.lua Extras/AloftWaterfall.lua):
23:59.08CIA-11Aloft
23:59.09CIA-11- Added Waterfall configuration
23:59.09CIA-11- Added tooltip for AloftFu

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