IRC log for #wowace on 20070406

00:00.08ckknighthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_mom#Use_as_a_retort
00:00.23hyperChipmunkyour mom
00:01.23Daemonasole -> http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4855/attack-power/ ?
00:05.05art3misNightHawkTheSane: actually black people get kind of pissed if you bring thier mommma up
00:06.00JJSheets"kind of"?  heheheheh...
00:06.36NightHawkTheSaneperhaps i should have specified "among my friends" :P
00:10.22NeoTronmust be an american thing
00:10.30NeoTroncan't imagine it being very effective in Sweden
00:11.26art3misgo try
00:11.40art3misits not like swedish men could do anything to you for it
00:11.48art3miswe all know they're limp wristed ;P
00:11.56ckknighthehe.
00:13.08NightHawkTheSanelol
00:13.32art3misthop it yuo guyths your hurting my feewingth
00:17.54NeoTronyour mom is so going to get you for that
00:17.55NeoTronerr
00:18.39kergothIndustrial: damn, that looks nice
00:20.13ckknightyour mom looks nice
00:20.23NeoTronmy mom just recently retired
00:20.30ckknightgrats
00:21.48*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)
00:21.48NightHawkTheSanemy mom's retiring in a few months.
00:22.53kergothhmm, Aloft needs to show health % or health numbers
00:23.16ckknightor -deficit for friendlies
00:23.18ckknightor somethinh
00:23.20ckknightsomething*
00:23.23kergothyeah
00:23.26kergothotherwise its looking nice
00:23.28JoshBorkehola
00:23.40Chompersaloft?
00:24.01NeoTronso anyone else ever wanted the ability to click on a raid icon to select the marked entity as a target?
00:24.26ckknightthat can be useful
00:25.08NightHawkTheSaneAloft sounds a lot like Zoloft.
00:25.19ckknightUrmomloft
00:26.27JoshBorkeckknight: you look at barfader yet?
00:26.36ckknightno
00:26.41JoshBorkeor are you too busy making your mom jokes :-P
00:26.41ckknightwell, I have
00:26.45ckknightbut not recently
00:27.05ckknightI'm watching One Tree Hill, halfway through season 2 now
00:27.46sergio_is there anyway to make nameplates show up at longer distances
00:27.52JoshBorkesergio_: no
00:32.57clad|sickckknight: I thought you said you were straight ;-)
00:33.14ckknightmy gf is really into it
00:33.29clad|sickah then that's a good reason
00:33.39clad|sickas a matter of fact, that pretty much trumps everything, except the actual having sex with guys thing
00:33.50ckknightand I mean, Lucas is just soo hot
00:33.56clad|sicklol
00:33.56Chomperssex with guys?
00:33.59Chompersin their POOPERS
00:34.04clad|sickeew
00:34.07ckknightlol.
00:34.15ckknightpackin' the fudge
00:34.56ckknightbut naw, I'm quite straight
00:35.06clad|sicki know you are
00:35.30JoshBorkefeeling any better clad?
00:35.52clad|sickfever broke this morning
00:35.59clad|sickso now i just have a cold
00:36.10JoshBorkethat's good
00:36.14JoshBorkein one way at least
00:36.41art3misdrink som buckleys!
00:36.46art3misbuckleys will fix it
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00:37.32clad|sick?
00:37.53clad|sickwhats buckleys?
00:38.10art3misa really awesome canadian cold medicine
00:38.21art3misthat tastes soooo horrible youll never get sick again ;P
00:38.36art3misthier slogan is acvtually "it tastse awful but it works"
00:38.43clad|sickooh
00:38.46clad|sicki want some :P
00:38.48clad|sickhehe
00:38.52art3misi know!
00:38.57art3misits actually relaly good
00:39.04JoshBorkeif it tastes bad it's gotta be good, right?
00:39.13clad|sickhell yeah
00:39.20art3misi think it works on the principle of teaching your body that if it gwets sick it gets this stuff so your body tries harder
00:39.21Daemonacome and get some?
00:39.40clad|sickits a 3 hour drive to the border
00:39.44art3misin some places you actually ahve to ask the pharmacy for it
00:39.46clad|sicki feel like that woudln't be good for my overall health
00:39.49art3misin the states
00:39.56art3misa lot don't have it out on the shelves
00:39.59art3misbut they do stock it
00:40.23art3mis<-- canadian living in new york ;P
00:40.31clad|sickall we have it Eckerd, and grocery stores
00:40.33clad|sickwhere in nY?
00:40.37art3misnyc
00:40.48clad|sickah k
00:40.52clad|sicki'm upstate.
00:40.58Daemonadamn i have to win 100 eye of the storm BGs to get a freaking new pvp trinket?
00:41.00art3misahhh
00:41.00JoshBorkeNEW YORK CITY!
00:41.06art3misget a rope ;P
00:41.32art3misbut yeah clad youll have it most ny places it have it due to being close to he border
00:41.33Daemonayou know whats worse?
00:41.38art3misjews?
00:41.39Daemonaanother bank slot wasted for tokens
00:41.48art3misoh you meant in the game ;P
00:42.01clad|sickDaemona: they stack to 100...
00:42.15clad|sickoh.. you have issues with single bank slots?
00:42.52Daemonasure i have
00:42.54Daemonai am a rogue
00:42.57clad|sicklrn2mule? =)
00:42.59Daemonaso many shiny weapons
00:42.59CIA-1103kergoth * r31946 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: respond to the SharedMedia_SetGlobal event, so that !SurfaceControl setting the global texture affects it.
00:43.10Daemonadude, if you could see my char screen -.-
00:43.19art3mishehe i logged on a friends priest the other day and realized he's a wierdo
00:43.24Funkeh`rophy: ping
00:43.29art3mishe's only got 2 bank bags bought
00:43.38art3misand he has like 14 EASY quests in gar
00:44.00rophyyes Funkeh`?
00:44.01GngskI'm confused
00:44.07Gngskwhich trinket requires 100 tokens?
00:44.11NightHawkTheSanebank bag slots are so cheap too
00:44.14art3misi know
00:44.16Funkeh`rophy: updated, but just got the same error, was in bg, line 456
00:44.20art3misand hes got 900g and he's a tailor
00:44.44Funkeh`bad argument #2 to 'format (string expected got boolean)
00:44.57GngskFunkeh`, simple combat log?
00:45.07Daemonaupdate ffs
00:45.27Daemona(00:57:55) (CIA-11) rophy * r31939 SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.toc core.lua):
00:45.27Daemona(00:57:55) (CIA-11) SimpleCombatLog:
00:45.27Daemona(00:57:55) (CIA-11) - Quick fix for error: core.lua:454: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got boolean).
00:45.29Funkeh`yes gngsk
00:45.37Funkeh`grats daemona
00:45.39Funkeh`now read what i said
00:45.41Funkeh`closely
00:45.57Daemona*swallows*
00:46.06NightHawkTheSanelol
00:46.18Daemonathat is the curse of playing bg on screen1 and irc on screen2 only reading last 2 lines ;)
00:46.40Gngsk~whalepat Daemona
00:46.52Gngsk*cry*
00:46.57Daemona~Daemona
00:47.06Daemonahmm hmm
00:47.16rophyFunkeh`: I'll try to make SCL report a better error log, but still dont have much time on modding.
00:47.33Funkeh`i can get a buggrabber report if you want it, not tonight though
00:47.38GngskI wish I knew more whalefu
00:47.43DaemonaFunkeh` i got it on 454?
00:47.48Funkeh`dunno if that would help rophy
00:47.50Daemonawith 31715
00:47.59Funkeh`456 daemona
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00:48.02rophybuggrabber doesn't help, it's SCL's problem.
00:48.11Funkeh`core.lua:456
00:48.16Funkeh`ok
00:48.27Daemona[2007/04/06 01:18:07-1880-x2]: SimpleCombatLog-1.1.2.31715\core.lua:454: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got boolean)ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:449: in function <...terface\AddOns\ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:449>
00:50.10CIA-1103rophy * r31947 10SimpleCombatLog/core.lua:
00:50.10CIA-11SimpleCombatLog:
00:50.10CIA-11- Quick hack to fix the line 454 error until I have time to actually investigate this.
00:50.26rophythis should prevent the error from happening for now.
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00:52.00Funkeh`rophy its was 456 incase you get anything mixed up
00:52.05Funkeh`just saying :p
00:52.14Funkeh`the old error was 454 though
00:52.22rophyIt was 454 and then 456, whatever :p
00:56.19JoshBorkeckknight: when is OnUnknownLayout called?
01:06.21hyperChipmunkam i missing something, or is there no way to have pitbull color name by class?
01:07.50JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: you're missing sometihng
01:08.04JoshBorkegroup -> name text, style
01:11.30ckknightJoshBorke: when a frame isn't in a layout and said frame is registered to the module which :OnUnknownLayout exists on
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01:13.21JoshBorkeckknight: k, that's what i thought but i wanted to double check
01:14.03hyperChipmunkJoshBorke: aha, thx
01:14.44JoshBorkeyay for moving combat text to the portrait
01:15.26ckknightgood times
01:16.36CIA-1103roartindon * r31948 10Aloft/ (Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua Aloft.toc): Aloft: Added support for coloration of group nameplates via RosterLib if it's installed
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01:19.07RoartindonHey Kergoth, thanks for the SetGlobal fix
01:20.22kergothnp :) i like using the same bar texture everywhere
01:20.29kergothnice job on it, its kicking ass
01:21.13JoshBorkekergoth: what texture do you like?
01:22.21kergothvaries with my mood..
01:22.31kergoththe main 3 are smooth, steel/notsteel, and bantobar
01:22.50JoshBorkecool, was just curious :-)
01:23.36hyperChipmunki'm a 'smudge' guy
01:23.50hyperChipmunkeven though i don't understand why it's called smudge
01:23.56hyperChipmunkbut i use it for everything
01:24.59JoshBorkei like charcoal too for some reason
01:25.03JoshBorkehaven't seen smudge
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01:30.38Lysitheasmooth steel banto, same as me
01:30.48Lysitheawent with banto for my ufs tho
01:31.00Lysitheaeasiest of the three to read as healer
01:31.31ckknightI really like Otravi
01:31.33ckknightit's nice
01:32.11LysitheaI used otravi last ui so I've become bored of it :)
01:32.11ckknightrather similar to your mom in that regard.
01:32.15ZealotOnAStickI really like Litestep
01:32.36chutwigotravi is the only way to go
01:34.02Garoun|Loupanalitestep is my prefered
01:35.36Lysitheawow, I really got offended by that ym joke ckknight, dont know why really :(
01:35.40Lysitheaheared so many so often
01:36.03Lysitheastrange
01:36.09ckknightI know, I called your mom nice
01:36.12ckknightmajor burn, imho
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01:41.05Daemonai heard rumours your mom made out with my mom ckknight
01:41.25ckknightthough hot, I find it unlikely
01:41.29ckknightmy mom's a bit of a prude
01:41.40Daemonawell guess i get some sleep
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01:42.11JoshBorkeSaroz: ping
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01:44.01kergothwoot, the ShamanFriend addon is a shaman's friend indeed
01:44.29Kadish___*ears perk up* new mod?
01:45.24Garoun|Loupanackknight: with Pitbull would I need to do a layout to make things like a groupmembers target be attached to top right of member1 with top left of member1target
01:45.35hyperChipmunkit makes all outland mail quest rewards turn into shaman lewt
01:45.39hyperChipmunk...oh wait...
01:45.56mjcit's alll shaman lewt anyways
01:45.56Kadishooh i want!
01:45.58ckknightGaroun|Loupana: layouts don't handle inter-frame position
01:46.28KadishYou know it really is pretty annoying when you finish a quest and there is a mail hat that has no +int on it
01:46.46hyperChipmunkyea, both of them
01:46.52Garoun|Loupanak, was just trying to think of ways to keep things so they move together :P
01:47.10NightHawkTheSaneKadish: i find it more annoyign when there are mail hats WITH +int
01:47.22JoshBorkei find mail to be annoying as a general rule
01:47.28hyperChipmunkthere are seriously no sta/agi mail rewards
01:47.42NightHawkTheSane"lawl +agi/int/mp5 is GREAT itemization!" >< fuck you blizz.
01:47.42hyperChipmunkit's all that int/atk crap
01:47.54hyperChipmunkNightHawkTheSane: lol you got it
01:48.12NightHawkTheSanemy shammy's wearing like 4 leather pieces just because the stats are so much better. ><
01:49.47Garoun|Loupanack: may be a waste but I was thinking in terms of a base layout for 'chunks' of ui
01:49.47Kadishoff topic, but was there a way to get Xloot to trash things when you are out of bagspace?
01:49.47Kadishcoulda sworn someone was talking about tha a while back
01:50.18NightHawkTheSanegarbagefu can help with that
01:50.49Garoun|LoupanaI guess I could always set them up so they are spaced properlyin theeri groups
01:51.01kergothKadish: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/6330/shaman-friend/
01:51.37chuckgWhy are the logical OR operations in LUA so bad.
01:51.47chuckgApparently parentheses have no significane?
01:52.13hyperChipmunkbecause they're 'or' not 'OR'?
01:52.53KadishNightHawk, will that work without FuBar (i cant remember if some can or if its not possible)
01:52.58chuckgif test1 and not test2 and ( test3 or test4 )
01:53.02chuckgIs the same as saying:
01:53.09chuckgtest1-3 OR test4.
01:53.19chuckgBut in any other language that's not the case.
01:53.32Garoun|LoupanaI need to check the site and see if there were any plans to make it so you could position the buff and debuff seperately of each other
01:53.44JoshBorkechuckg: are you sure?
01:53.49ckknightchuckg: you are so wrong.
01:54.06Kadishah that's pretty spiffy kergoth - surprised its not in svn
01:54.19chuckgI'm doing it.
01:54.22chuckgAnd seeing it right now.
01:54.25chuckgThat that is the case.
01:54.49ckknightso what two phrases are equivalent, then?
01:55.32Nargiddley`http://narg.pastey.net/10607 i see nothing wrong
01:56.50chuckgI'm doing a pastey real fast.
01:56.53chuckghttp://ace.pastey.net/10609
01:57.00hyperChipmunkchuckg: probably u r dumb lol!!!
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01:57.21chuckgThanks chipmunk.
01:57.25hyperChipmunk>8D
01:57.47hyperChipmunkanytime
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01:58.05Nargiddley`chuckg, i see a change in capitalization .Type to .type is that the problem ?
01:58.36chuckgNo that's not it.
01:58.41chuckgJust a typo on my part.
01:58.47ckknightfor one, ( active.config.type ~= SPELLWATCH_TYPE_SELFBUFF ) or ( active.config.type ~= SPELLWATCH_TYPE_SELFDEBUFF) always evaluates to true.
01:59.07ckknightnot sure that was what you were going for
01:59.28hyperChipmunklol
01:59.31chuckgIndeed it was not, it's been a long day.
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01:59.42hyperChipmunkso basically?
01:59.44ckknightyep.
01:59.51ckknightuse and, not or
01:59.54hyperChipmunku r dumb lol?
02:00.07chuckgI guess you could say so.
02:00.09ckknightI think hyperChipmunk's right on this one
02:00.12ckknightlol wut?
02:00.16chuckgOr you could just say "oops".
02:00.19chuckgAnd not be a dick.
02:00.25chuckgThank you for the help.
02:00.30hyperChipmunkaww
02:00.31hyperChipmunk~pat chuckg
02:00.36purlACTION pats chuckg and says "Nicely Done!"
02:00.46ckknight~console chuckg
02:00.47purlACTION gives chuckg the consolation moose
02:00.48hyperChipmunki was just teasing =(
02:00.59hyperChipmunkhaha that's awesome
02:01.01chuckgMy vagina is yeasty.
02:01.02chuckgLeave me be.
02:01.12Funkeh`...
02:01.16mjc~pat chuckg's vagina
02:01.17purlACTION pats chuckg's vagina and says "Nicely Done!"
02:01.22JoshBorkepurl, comfort chuckg
02:01.24purlThere, there, chuckg.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
02:01.25chuckgIt tickles.
02:01.42Funkeh`fuck this channel scares me 95% of teh time
02:01.50ckknightdon't be like that
02:02.00ckknightchuckg just has a bit of sand in his vagina
02:02.03hyperChipmunkonly 95%? wow, what kind of life have you lived?
02:02.19ckknightlol.
02:02.20chuckgThis channel is far from "scary".
02:02.21Funkeh`a 5% shit free one
02:02.37chuckgIt's more like a geeks version of a lockeroom pre-game.
02:02.45chuckgMy function is bigger than yours.
02:02.51chuckgExcept smaller functions win.
02:02.53JoshBorkeyea, well my function is more elegant
02:03.05Funkeh`my function does the job right..
02:03.06JoshBorkei hate you guys
02:03.18ckknightlol
02:03.29hyperChipmunkwe lost roart =x
02:03.49ckknightman overboard
02:04.16hyperChipmunkhehe
02:04.19chuckgFell victim to the sweaty stink.
02:04.48Kadishahh the acrid smell of unshowered nerds and stale cheetos
02:06.28ckknightI don't eat cheetos
02:06.32ckknightand I shower daily
02:06.44ckknightalso, I'm sexy
02:06.57ckknightI know you want a piece of this
02:08.13JoshBorkei eat cheetos
02:08.15JoshBorkethey are yummy
02:12.35hyperChipmunkso is your mom
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02:12.59hyperChipmunkha, beat ckknight to the punch
02:13.11ckknightgood one.
02:13.36hyperChipmunkthx; i came up with it myself
02:13.45ckknightoriginal
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02:16.00JoshBorke/pleave
02:16.01JoshBorkeBAH!
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02:20.21CIA-1103kameril * r31949 10BarAnnounce3/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
02:20.21CIA-11BarAnnounce3:
02:20.22CIA-11-Modules that belong to multiple zones only show up once in the GUI.
02:20.23CIA-11-New module methods.
02:22.07syerenckknight, did you manage to fix any of the debuff aura problems in pitbull yet :P?
02:22.27ZealotOnAStickSo, we finally dropped Hydross.
02:22.30ckknighthaven't tried
02:22.30hyperChipmunkwhat file would i look in to fix the fact that the pet happiness color doesn't update on time with pitbull?
02:22.36syerenTried using it in BG today, and the player target frames turned to fear icons and everyone had multiple fear, immolate, and corruption icons :(
02:23.08hyperChipmunksyeren: maybe your team just suxed =/
02:23.31syerenIn WSG.
02:23.35syerenAgainst 1 Warlock.
02:23.41syerenEvery person on my team had 6 corruptions ;p
02:23.47syerenAnd had 3 fear icons.
02:23.54hyperChipmunkdang
02:24.00hyperChipmunkthat's a skeeled lock
02:24.08hyperChipmunkdude must have phat epix
02:24.15syerenIndeed ;p
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02:30.17hyperChipmunkpitbull could really do for some commenting at the top of its .luas
02:30.39hyperChipmunkjust a little description about what each file does
02:31.53JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: sounds like a great project for ya :-D
02:32.07hyperChipmunkif i know what they did, i wouldn't need the comments =p
02:32.19HealthJoshBorke: Dude!
02:32.43HealthI have a little frabs of barfade like 10 hours ago.. tend to be like that for me.. want to see it?
02:33.01kergothhmm, wonder if theres a linux app to capture opengl rendered video
02:33.03Healthfraps*
02:33.17hyperChipmunkkergoth: haven't found one worth beans
02:33.25hyperChipmunkif you find one, let me know
02:36.04JoshBorkeHealth: um, is it good or bad?
02:36.39HealthJoshBorke: Just a bit jumpy. I read a commit entery about fixing jumpyness but I'm still having it
02:37.39JoshBorkethat just had to do with the alpha
02:37.51HealthJoshBorke: http://85.230.26.4/pitbull.wmv
02:38.27JoshBorkekergoth: remember how i said someone should write a generic cooldown tracking mod?
02:41.01hyperChipmunkyour mom wrote one?
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02:43.51Chompersguild on my server called McDonalds
02:43.56Chompersonly one guy in it called...
02:44.00ChompersNuggets
02:44.38PHL-Chuckhey guys is there a way to see memory use of each addon? lately been rising from 34mb to 56mb pretty quick and wanted to see what the culprit is
02:44.48hyperChipmunkPHL-Chuck: wait for 2.1 =P
02:44.54PHL-Chucksame addons used to hover around 34m
02:44.59PHL-Chuckah thats right they gonna add that
02:45.10NightHawkTheSaneheh, wonderfalls is great.
02:46.26HealthUm? "gonna add that" ?
02:46.37HealthHe's got the 2.1 patch! HEHE
02:46.47mjcheh
02:46.50HealthJoshBorke: were you able to get the file from my crappy connection? :)
02:47.15mjcckknight: found a pitbull bug. putting it on my flickr real quick
02:47.31JoshBorkeHealth: yea.  what mod is that which tracks your dots?
02:47.33ZealotOnAStickGod this trash sucks.  Totems that sumon multiple water elementals.
02:47.38JoshBorkeand i see the funkyness on teh target
02:48.05JoshBorkeHealth: using newest version?
02:48.33HealthJoshBorke: Chronometer. Yeah, was using the newest version from like.. 10 hours ago
02:48.38NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: man, i want those totems
02:49.13GngskZealotOnAStick, you're crazy...trash is fun
02:49.16NightHawkTheSane"He has a theology degree! Several, actually. How many more do you need?" "One more, leave me alone!"
02:49.20chuckgSomeone updated chronometer besides me?
02:49.28chuckgJoshBorke, should give SpellWatch a shot.
02:49.30JoshBorkehealth:  no clue honestly.  what options didy ou have?
02:50.51HealthHmm.. I've had that for awhile.. even before nymbia's rewrite I think.. hmm
02:51.07HealthNot changed any options really, it's without the smooth fade tho
02:51.40hyperChipmunkckknight: i see that pet happiness color is handled in health.lua; is it possible to override that for showing pet happiness somewhere else, and letting the health bar change color normally?
02:51.59JoshBorkeHealth: i'd try enabling and disabling all the options maybe?
02:52.07ckknighthyperChipmunk: ah, there should be.
02:52.08HealthI'll try that
02:52.15HealthMight be some old saved vars
02:52.26ckknighthyperChipmunk: probably isn't right now
02:52.31hyperChipmunki can't see how
02:52.31ckknightbut there _should_ be
02:52.35hyperChipmunkokay
02:53.24hyperChipmunki was trying to make the border color the indicator instead, and the way i can see to do it is really ugly
02:57.26hyperChipmunkthere doesn't even seem to be a way to turn healthbar indication OFF; that sort of thing should be handled by layout
02:58.21ckknightah, no, stuff like colors would be really hard to handle with layout
02:58.30ckknightunless you have an idea about that
02:59.24mjcckknight: inc screenshot
02:59.39ckknightoom
02:59.54mjcout of mind?
02:59.55mjc;D
03:00.07hyperChipmunki haven't really studied pitbull's code
03:00.18hyperChipmunkso maybe layouts aren't what i think
03:00.26ckknightout of your mom
03:00.33mjcthat would be ooym
03:00.40ckknightunless it's ur mom
03:00.43ckknightand the ur is implied
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03:01.35hyperChipmunkwhat i mean, though, is that pet indication is something that's not really well-decided-on
03:01.43hyperChipmunksome prefer an icon
03:01.51hyperChipmunksome prefer coloring of one thing or another
03:02.37hyperChipmunkwhereas health bars are pretty straightforward; everybody agrees that it should be sized proportional to current health, and it's color should reflect the same
03:03.00ckknightI don't agree
03:03.06mjcckknight: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=447870932&size=o
03:03.08ckknightI like its color to be by class for peoples
03:03.13ckknightand by happiness for my pet
03:03.28hyperChipmunkbut you have options for that
03:03.50hyperChipmunkwell, not for happiness
03:04.05hyperChipmunki can't turn that off, except by setting it as class color
03:04.15ckknightand an option should probably be added, as I already said.
03:04.41ckknightalright, I have class to go to
03:05.03hyperChipmunkright, but i'm trying to figure out a way to make it easier for some flexibility without puking all over the code =)
03:05.24ckknightit's not too complex
03:07.13Garoun|LoupanaHealth, what are you using for your map mod?
03:09.06syerenhttp://www.fukung.net/images/647/mb-pr-mnd.jpg
03:11.07Funkeh`LOL
03:11.10Funkeh`holy fuck
03:11.48Funkeh`how do you use 234GB from a 2GB limit
03:11.55mjcheh.
03:12.00mjcddos /
03:14.59CIA-1103funkydude * r31950 10BigWigs/Azeroth/Azuregos.lua:
03:14.59CIA-11BigWigs: Azeroth/Azuregos:
03:15.00CIA-11- engage alert
03:15.00CIA-11- cleanup
03:15.00CIA-11- schedule fade instead of registering aura_gone
03:15.00CIA-11- sync
03:16.16mjchttp://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=447870932&size=o
03:18.52Funkeh`1. what are we looking at
03:18.57Funkeh`2. wow thats an ugly ui
03:19.02Funkeh`2. WTF 62MB
03:19.06Funkeh`3* :/
03:19.47hyperChipmunksyeren: that isn't you, is it?
03:20.43mjcFunkeh`: Lua uses more RAM on OSX
03:20.47mjcdoesn't mean anything
03:20.49JoshBorkewow, 1161 errors
03:21.04JoshBorkeall from pitbull
03:21.14hyperChipmunkdude, that's like a new record
03:21.19Funkeh`i hardly think it uses 3x the ram
03:21.30Funkeh`i use a tons of addons and im at 20~mb
03:21.40mjcuses 25-30MB with the samae WoW folder on win
03:21.53Funkeh`lol
03:21.53mjcit doesn't really matter that wasn't the point
03:21.55Funkeh`thats fucked up
03:21.59mjc64bit
03:22.01Funkeh`whats the point?
03:22.07JoshBorke1155 were all detected as the aura module
03:22.07mjcpitbull bug
03:22.13mjcwarlock has 2 pets
03:22.25Funkeh`hehe
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03:23.45mjcFunkeh`: win x64 should do the same thing theoretically
03:25.33mjcassuming wow on win x64 is 64 bit
03:25.35mjcbut it's not
03:26.08mjcbbiab. link that to ckknight when he comes back
03:29.02CIA-1103funkydude * r31951 10BigWigs/Azeroth/Emeriss.lua:
03:29.02CIA-11BigWigs: Azeroth/Emeriss:
03:29.02CIA-11- warn for Corruption of the Earth
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03:36.18JoshBorkeup to 1772 bugs
03:37.35trhuh? wow on x64 is a 64bit executable? - oh.. he's gone
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03:38.09NoAcessheyas
03:38.54CIA-1103kameril * r31952 10BarAnnounce3/ModulePrototype.lua: BarAnnounce3:-An "or" would be good.
03:40.07NoAcessanyone know if UnitIsAffectingCombat works?
03:41.11JoshBorkeNoAcess: depends on what youm aen by works.  does it play for you?  nope.  does it tell you about combat stuff?  yep
03:41.46NoAcessit just gives me null
03:41.47trhi read it only indicates hitting something
03:41.59NoAcessI want to check to see if I'm in combat
03:42.05syerenThe problem with Pitbull at the moment is that the debuff auras are fucking it up huge style JoshBorke.
03:42.17JoshBorkeyea, i don't mind
03:42.18syerenAnd ckk seems too busy to fix it :/
03:42.22NoAcesswhat do I need to pass to UnitIsAffectingCombat?
03:42.27NoAcess(1) ?
03:42.40JoshBorkeNoAcess: teh name of the unit?
03:42.57syerenJoshBorke, it isn't so bad untill your unit frames turn into Debuff icons.
03:43.08syerenAnd people are afflicted by 6 corruptions all the time.
03:43.08ThraeNoAcess: unitId, as in "player", "party1", "party2", "raid1", "raid2", "pet", "partypet1
03:43.09Funkeh`syeren that was fixed
03:43.09syeren:/
03:43.11Funkeh`yesterday
03:43.15syerenIt happened to me today.
03:43.16Funkeh`it works fine now
03:43.16syerenIn WSG.
03:43.22trhNoAcess: PLAYER_ENTER_COMBAT, PLAYER_LEAVE_COMBAT
03:43.24JoshBorkeFunkeh`: sorry, my 2291 errors say otherwise
03:43.26ThraeNoAcess: "target", "focus", "mouseover", etc.
03:43.34Funkeh`my 0 errors say mine is fine
03:43.36NoAcessI tried passing my character name
03:43.40NoAcessdidnt work
03:43.40syerenAnd when that happens, you get zillions of errors a second.
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03:50.06NightHawkTheSane"I'm so far from tense, I'm past tense!" hah
03:50.58JoshBorke[2007/04/05 23:08:31-2363-x2285]: PitBull-r31890\Aura\Aura.lua:268: attempt to index local 'debuff' (a nil value)
03:51.54syerenJosh.
03:51.59syerenTimes that by 1000000
03:52.08syerenAnd you have what happens when someone gets a debuff in BG ;p
03:52.10Funkeh`turn off buggraber
03:52.15Funkeh`- it by 100000000
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03:52.59syerenhttp://www.wowace.com/trac/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=status&verbose=1&summary=%7EPitBull&order=priority
03:53.03syerenStill happens Funkeh.
03:53.05syerenNo idea why.
03:53.27Funkeh`do a clean instal or something
03:53.35Funkeh`or wipe your saved variables
03:53.39NerrisaAnyone have a problem with AGUF where if you are in combat and someone is added to the party you get an error?
03:54.14CIA-1103roartindon * r31953 10Aloft/ (Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua): Aloft: Added initial health text options. Plenty more to do here....
03:54.15NerrisaThen you need to reloadui to make the newly added person show up.
03:59.16JoshBorkeHealth: rofl.  your video has been playing this entire time
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04:02.50ckknightfalling asleep in class...
04:04.00trhckknight: made a mini-bugfix for AceComm (allow unregistering of ZONE - seems to have been forgotten to be added to the unregistercomm check) - can you commit it? seems normal users don't have the rights to commit in Ace2 :)
04:05.25trhckknight: http://carebear.de/~trh/AceComm-2.0_addZONE.diff link
04:05.41ckknightsorry, I'm in class
04:05.53trhckknight: after class? :)
04:06.12ckknightit'll be at least 2 hours
04:06.24ckknightso either email it to me or wait till then
04:06.30ckknightor have another dev do it
04:06.34trhckknight: ckknight at gmail.com?
04:06.44trhi think they are all offline atm
04:06.53ckknightyea
04:09.20ckknight~tuplad
04:09.21purlhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/51.jpg
04:09.53Gngskheh
04:09.54Gngskpoor tuplad
04:10.13ckknight~karma tuplad
04:10.13purltuplad has karma of -9
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04:10.25ckknight~karma ckknight
04:10.25purlckknight has karma of 6
04:11.16trhlol
04:11.18Gngsk~karma gngsk
04:11.18purlgngsk has neutral karma
04:11.25Gngskneutral
04:11.28trh~karma purl
04:11.28purlpurl has karma of 8
04:11.35Gngskyou know what zap branigan says about neutrals
04:11.45ckknightyou change karma like this:
04:11.47SymianHey - I'm getting an error whenever I enter a slash command supported by my ace-enabled addon. The general access slash command is /bnb, as provided by the RegisterChatCommand AceConsole-2.0 mixin. For ANY valid argument, it creats the following error:
04:11.59ckknight~gngsk++
04:12.07Symian"FunctionName" not found.: (this in AceConsole-2.0)
04:12.16ckknight~karma gngsk
04:12.16purlgngsk has karma of 1
04:12.19Gngsknifty
04:12.23Symianthat even happens for default arguments like /bnb about
04:12.33SymianAny idea what might cause this?
04:12.33kergothsounds like your aceoptions table is broken
04:12.46SymianOh, would that cause that?
04:12.51trhGngsk: was it
04:12.51trh"That's the problem with Neutrals - you never know where you stand. Damn them and their neutrality."
04:12.54SymianHmmmm
04:13.06Gngsktrh, that'd be it!
04:13.25trhbtw: they are making new futurama episodes and movies!
04:13.28Symiankergoth, I can't seem to find it, can I pastey it?
04:13.36Gngskthey're one in the same
04:13.45Gngskthey'll be released on dvd first, as 'movie'
04:13.51Gngskthen shown on tv as episodes
04:13.54trhah.. ok
04:13.55Gngska la the family guy movie
04:14.05trhthought they make both
04:14.06Gngskbut yeah, can't wait
04:14.22trhanyway.. futurama is so much better than simpsons/family guy and such
04:14.25Symianhttp://ace.pastey.net/10633
04:14.37ckknightWhat makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
04:14.47Gngskgood writing, great cast
04:14.53Gngskcool characters
04:16.04SymianOh shoot, I think I found it - is it line 25? Is that table being turned in to just 2 arguments?
04:16.07ckknightthey also can't really write themselves into a corner
04:16.17ckknightdue to them just being able to invent new stuff
04:16.26Gngskyeah
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04:16.52Gngskand the whole heads in jars deal is so flexible
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04:17.33syerenFunkeh`, you think the problem is entirely in my saved variables file :/?
04:18.10trhDamn gravity, you win again!
04:18.46kergoth~emulate fry
04:18.48purlMy folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. What am I, the pope?
04:19.13GngskStraighten your pope hat. And put on your good vestements!
04:23.16kergothpurl: entertain me
04:23.22purlACTION grabs 5 random objects and begins to weave them through the air in a display of superior juggling skill for kergoth's entertainment whilst whistling Einzug der Gladiatoren by Julius Fu?ík
04:23.22Funkeh`syeren: ive seen too mcuh wierd shit lately wiht addons that solved with a reinstall of the addon and a saved variables deletion
04:23.33kergoth~remulate
04:23.35purlIt'll be a good chance to get away from the evil monkey that lives in my closet."
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04:25.12kergothhmm, hemlock is acting weird
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04:27.40Gngskthey need to nerf the cooldown on mr. pinchy
04:27.44Gngsk48 hours is too long!
04:30.08CIA-1103funkydude * r31954 10VersionChecker/ (. VersionChecker.lua VersionChecker.toc): VersionChecker: give the poor thing an icon
04:30.46kergothhrm
04:30.56kergothits trying to open the poison frame, i hear the sound, but it doesnt open :|
04:31.30CIA-1103chuckg * r31955 10SpellWatch/SpellWatch.lua:
04:31.30CIA-11SpellWatch:
04:31.30CIA-11- Added 'combatclear' option which clears all timers when exiting combat, excluding self buffs/debuffs and timers on non-NPCs.
04:31.37Gngsk~emulate ag`
04:31.39purlNo, that can't be my bug. Disable all your addons, delete your WTF, empty your trashbin, wash the dog and throw a magnet on your harddrive. Oh, you still get the bug? Ok, I'll take a look at it
04:31.53chuckg~emulate chuckg
04:31.59chuckgBOO
04:32.09chuckg~emulate ckknight
04:32.10purlpimpness.
04:32.16chuckgHahahaa.
04:32.29ckknightI have a few good ones
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04:33.57ckknight~literal emulate ckknight
04:33.59purl"emulate ckknight" is "(<action>quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))|<reply>f*ck you, guy|<reply>You know why? Because you touch yourself at night|<reply>your mom's <foo>|<reply>file a bug.|<reply>pimpness.|<reply>suck it, biatches|<reply>Get me a full debugstack, puny mortal.|<reply>hrm)"
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04:35.14Funkeh`lol
04:36.59kergothdamnit, atropine wont open the poison frame either
04:37.02kergothwonder what addon is interfering
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04:41.47ChompersVersionChecker
04:41.52Chompersthe checker of versions
04:43.14CyrezPitbull is having some trouble with Niagara.
04:44.00CyrezIf you click on PitBull or any of it's sections, you get "attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)".
04:44.45Funkeh`nymbia: ping
04:45.56ckknightupdate Waterfull, Cyrez
04:46.06ckknightneeds to support passValue
04:46.49CyrezAh... ^^
04:51.58kergothhmm, Aloft could use some sort of pvp flag status
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05:11.37nymbiaFunkeh`: sup
05:13.00Funkeh`nymbia: was just wondering if gruul assist was working ok turning sound on during grasp
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05:14.21Silverstormgot a BigWigs question...I was in Kara tonight, assistant raid leader, BW and BW_Kara active, and got nothing on the Curator boss.  I checked to make sure the module was active and reset before each attempt
05:14.31Silverstormanyone have ideas why it wasn't working?
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05:16.16art3misany of you losers on echo isle?
05:16.49nymbiaFunkeh`: i dunno, we killed him thie week before i was whining about it.. i'll let you know next tues ;)
05:17.34Funkeh`Silverstorm: no idea, a ui reload would ahve probably fixed it
05:17.53Silverstormdoh...I should have tried that  *facedesk*
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05:28.55kergothwould be cute to show how much my bandage will heal in pitbull_estimatedheals
05:28.56kergothhehe
05:30.30CIA-1103arcuss * r31956 10HunterAEP/HunterAEP-Locale-deDE.lua:
05:30.30CIA-11HunterAEP:
05:30.30CIA-11-Updated German translations
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05:30.55Heriodoes anyone have any recommendations in the way of a fishing mod?
05:31.08Heriojust which some names to look at would help =P
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05:31.18kergothi use fishingace
05:31.21kergothgets the job done
05:36.47hyperChipmunki throw my tallstrider into the lake and he comes back with a fish
05:37.03hyperChipmunkgets the job done
05:37.06HerioTAKE THAT, FLAMINGO!
05:37.15Heriohooyeah!
05:37.25hyperChipmunkpfeh
05:37.33hyperChipmunkLyriki is pristine white, tyvm
05:37.38hyperChipmunkhe's clean
05:38.09CIA-1103roartindon * r31958 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Pulled out the initial "testing" for health text. Commented out some other debug code.
05:40.27ZealotOnAStickDangit.
05:40.36ZealotOnAStickroartindon needs to log on IRC, or respond to my forum post.
05:42.55kergothhe must be one of those crazy people that actually log off of irc, instead of leaving it running 24/7 like us sane folk
05:43.26ZealotOnAStickhe's done like 5 commits to Aloft today and hasn't been on IRC for any of them.  :(
05:43.30hyperChipmunk01:43 Irssi uptime: 44d 22h 36m 29s
05:43.54Heriomy linux box had over 100 day uptime
05:43.59Heriodamned power failure
05:44.15hyperChipmunki'm up to 79.5 days atm
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05:44.56art3miszealot he's in kara right now hell ho0p on when hes done
05:44.57CIA-1103arcuss * r31959 10HunterAEP/HunterAEP.lua:
05:44.57CIA-11HunterAEP:
05:44.57CIA-11-Updated version information
05:45.19Funkeh`Herio, i thinks you mean, FUCKIGN OWNED FLAMINGO! BOOYA!
05:45.25art3mishe did say you can hop on silvermoon though if its important
05:46.12ZealotOnASticknah, nothing important.  Definitely nothing worth interrupting a raid for.
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05:52.35SymianI'm still getting a very persistent error: my module's slash command (/bnb) registers just fine, and the module loads perfectly, but using any VALID slash sub command (like /bnb show or even default ones like /bnb about) causes an LUA error, "Option handler "FunctionName" not found."
05:54.17SymianDoes anyone have any ideas? Someone suggested it was a bad AceOptions table, but I can't see a thing wrong with it
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05:54.18nymbiapastey the table?
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05:54.26Symianhttp://ace.pastey.net/10633
05:54.28SymianThanks.
05:54.42Funkeh`later
05:55.14SymianIn the error mentioned above, FunctionName is of course replaced with the function that wasn't found... be it one I specified or a default one like "PrintAddonInfo"
05:55.32Symianthe actual error technically occurs on line 3094 of ChatFrame.lua
05:56.00SymianBut I'm pretty sure that's just where a slash command gets forked off
05:57.59CIA-1103funkydude * r31960 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon: update koKR
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06:00.01SymianAm I buggered?
06:00.31SymianI'm going to have to rewrite this thing from scratch because I left out some dumb parenthesis somewhere and I can't find it. Ugh.
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06:01.19nymbiaSymian: try specifying handler=
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06:02.17Symianok, lemme give that a shot
06:04.04SymianNope.
06:04.27SymianI can't help but wonder if this is caused by a bad instance of AceLib
06:04.38Symianexcept that it's being loaded from FuBar r25921
06:04.52Symianand I'd think FuBar would have a good version, considering.
06:05.03ZealotOnAStickUh.
06:05.12ZealotOnAStickThat's, like, several thousand revisions old.
06:05.27SymianIs it? I downloaded it from svn about, oh, two weeks ago?
06:05.31ZealotOnAStickTry updating fubar and ace2 and other involved libs?
06:05.47ZealotOnAStickwe're in the 31900 range currently.
06:05.48SymianIf stuff is getting broken that quickly...
06:05.59SymianWell yeah, but that's because the svn hosts many many trunks
06:06.06ZealotOnAStick25921 would be . . . very shortly after TBC release.
06:06.11ZealotOnAStickwe hit 25k a couple days before.
06:06.24SymianFuBar can't have had more than a few revisions since then, could it?
06:06.33SymianWell, ok, I'll give that a try
06:06.37hyperChipmunksvn log fubar
06:06.38ZealotOnAStickcheck the changelog and see?
06:06.51ZealotOnAStickand I know there's been some changes to ace2, not sure if AceLibrary itself has or not.
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06:07.05ZealotOnAStickstill, why are you developing on old code?
06:07.25SymianIs there a better way then mucking about in an SVN to get a stable milestone of the FuBar project? SVN is great for developers, but IMHO it's better for end-users like myself to have a static link
06:07.27hyperChipmunklooks like 7 revs since yours
06:07.31hyperChipmunkincluding some bugfixes
06:07.40nymbiawell there's been changes to aceoptions table handling since then, in both dewdrop and aceconsole
06:07.58hyperChipmunkfiles.wowace.com?
06:08.03SymianI'm not developing for FuBar
06:08.05CIA-1103roartindon * r31961 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Stupid little error fixed
06:08.12SymianhyperChipmunk, see, that's an awesome link to have known about
06:08.16trh_Symian: theoretically you can create stable release branches
06:08.20Symianwish I had heard of it before
06:08.27hyperChipmunk=x
06:08.34hyperChipmunk=)
06:08.38hyperChipmunknow you have!
06:08.42trh_Symian: but most developers don't use that, they sometimes release "stable" versions on curse, wowinterface or worldofwar.net though
06:09.02SymianOk, I need to back up:
06:09.34SymianIs AceLib changing so much that a version developed about a month ago suddenly invalidates tables?
06:09.42Symianmonth-old tables, that is
06:09.44hyperChipmunkoughtn't
06:10.01trh_do you got a complete error log with stacktrace? like with improvederrorframe?
06:10.04hyperChipmunkonly gets little tweaks
06:10.16ZealotOnAStickshouldn't, no, but, just for shits and giggles, backup everything you have now, and TRY it with current versions of everything involved?
06:10.17SymianI have BugGrabber, want me to pastey it?
06:10.39hyperChipmunkthat'd be very useful
06:10.41Symianace.pastey.net/10647
06:10.47SymianTHanks.
06:11.02nymbiaSymian: pastey what you have after adding handler lines?
06:11.03SymianWoops, specified the wrong syntax. Sorry for the weird colors.
06:11.13Symiannymbia: Ok, one second
06:11.45Symianhttp://ace.pastey.net/10648
06:12.32SymianI'm pretty sure line 26 could be rolled in, but I rolled it out for debugging
06:13.19SymianOh! AceConsole is being loaded by HealPoints
06:13.26Symianand my HealPoints is broken broken broken
06:13.33Symianlet's see if this fixes it
06:14.11Symianthat did the trick.
06:14.13SymianSorry guys.
06:14.13ZealotOnAStickI've personally found it rather helpful to just run Ace2 standalone.
06:14.31hyperChipmunk=)
06:14.32SymianI'd do that, except that I want my environment to be like an average users
06:14.43ZealotOnAStick(as in, run Ace2 as an adoon, not the StandaloneLibs deal)
06:14.45Symianand part of the whole schtick is that average users won't have a standalone
06:15.17ZealotOnAStickIf everything was hosted on the WoWAce SVN and everything was coded properly, correct.
06:15.25nymbiaSymian: you can probably toss those handler things now
06:15.26ZealotOnAStickbut neither of those are true.  
06:15.37hyperChipmunkyea, we're pretty crappy coders, as a whole =)
06:15.43nymbiai know i am
06:15.49hyperChipmunkwe work under the "infinite monkeys" theory
06:15.53nymbialol
06:15.55hyperChipmunkas you can see by our rev#
06:16.05ZealotOnAStickPsh.  Not you guys.
06:16.46SymianI'm sorry, but the wowace svn... annoys me. I guess in particular it annoys me that so many developers track version number by revision number. That's so CVS.
06:16.58SymianAs witnessed by your revision number. :-)
06:17.20SymianWell - thanks for the help, guys.
06:17.25SymianGonna need to take a look at this for sure.
06:17.34ZealotOnAStickand I'm not about to be one to throw figurative rocks here, I can't code my way out of a paper sack with power shears.
06:17.39hyperChipmunkwell, it enforces embed libraries are loaded by most-recent
06:19.14SymianI suppose.
06:19.37nymbiait helps a lot for library versioning
06:19.42nymbiaand bug reports
06:20.11nymbiaespecialliy when bugsack sticks the rev number right in the error
06:20.29SymianYeah, I guess that's a good point.
06:21.32SymianWell, ok, here's one gripe: It seems to me that ALL of the libraries should be included in every distrobution. No picking and choosing which ones to include. If you end up not using them, it's like maybe two megabytes of disk space and NO wasted RAM.
06:21.43SymianOr.... well, no wasted add-on ram
06:22.00SymianBut I'm only mad because it threw me for a loop today
06:22.05Symianand now I know, so I guess that gripe is over.
06:22.17hyperChipmunk!!!StandaloneLibs
06:22.24hyperChipmunkwe have that =)
06:23.08SymianDoes that override the normal "load it again if this one is a more recent revision" policy?
06:23.33SymianI'm going to stop talking - I'm in way over my head
06:23.48SymianMy problems with Ace at the moment are exactly that - my problems. I'm just not used to some of the semantics.
06:24.01hyperChipmunkwell, that's what we're here for
06:24.05SymianHah, thanks.
06:29.32hyperChipmunknp; that's why i earn the big bananas
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06:33.27kergothSymian: wher "ALL" the libraries means what exactly? there are a shitload of libs in wowace svn that are not part of ace proper.
06:33.41CyrezI've got enough Ace2 stuff that I need all the Ace2 libs or close to it.
06:33.55kergothi dunno about you, but on my linux box when i apt-get install a package, i get that project and its dependencies, and thats all.
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06:35.40Fisker-nymbia
06:35.44Fisker-i'm going to kill you
06:36.17nymbia:(
06:36.24Fisker-http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=20923
06:36.29Fisker-he's not in instanceloot
06:36.36Fisker-so learn2datamine
06:36.51nymbiahe's so totally in there
06:36.51kergothi'm really getting sick of picking up piles of dung in nagrand
06:36.55kergothi get enough of that walking my dog
06:36.59Fisker-Not earlier
06:37.08Fisker-Or atleast instance loot's note is wrong then
06:37.24Fisker-in any case it's your problem and it's your fault
06:37.32nymbialol
06:37.45nymbiait probably blew up cause he's got no normal mode drops
06:38.04hyperChipmunkhe's in mine
06:38.19hyperChipmunkin pt3browser
06:38.36Fisker-noone cares about pt3browser!
06:39.02Fisker-Also some n00b made items delete themselves in Cartographer if they were unknown and you tried to resolve them
06:39.07CIA-1103nymbia * r31962 10PeriodicTable-3.0/dataminer.lua:
06:39.07CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
06:39.07CIA-11- Drycoded fix in dataminer for bosses that're only in heroic mode.
06:39.17Fisker-totally beginners mistake
06:39.41kergoth<3 ptbrowser
06:39.47nymbiathat's probably yer qualify filter Fisker-
06:40.12Fisker-with 10-20% dropchance?
06:40.14Fisker-I do not believe you
06:40.19ZealotOnAStickDammit.
06:40.20nymbiaPFT
06:40.25ZealotOnAStickNow out of Bleach.
06:40.36ZealotOnAStickand it was just getting good.
06:41.02ThraeZealotOnAStick: Just give it a thorough rinse and you should be fine until you go to the store.
06:41.38ZealotOnAStickBut it has to be imported from Japan, Thrae.
06:42.10ZealotOnAStickSame conundrum I face with Doctor Who.  I have to wait for new episodes weekly now.
06:42.12ThraeSo I guess you'll need to be rinsing a lot before Japan gets more Bleach ;)
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06:42.53ThraeAnyway, is Bleach out of the Bound arc yet?
06:42.58ZealotOnAStickYes.
06:43.13[Ammo]morning
06:43.20hyperChipmunkyou suck ammo!
06:43.21ZealotOnAStickMercifully once the Bounto got to Soul Society, it went pretty quickly.
06:43.32ZealotOnAStickThen there was about an episode and a half of filler.
06:43.39ThraeI should go revisit it then...I was worried it would go the Naruto way and stay in fillers for like 50 episodes
06:43.46Fisker-i like that [Ammo] sucks
06:43.56Fisker-Atleast i wouldn't want it bit off
06:43.59ZealotOnAStickThen serious asskicking with all new villains on the whole Aizen Shinigami/Hollow world domination deal.
06:44.04ThraeZealotOnAStick: What about the spin-off? You see all of that?
06:44.14ZealotOnAStickSpin off?
06:44.21ZealotOnAStickinform!
06:44.23ZealotOnASticknow!
06:44.27ThraeGin-tama
06:45.23hyperChipmunkckknight spun off your mom
06:45.28Fisker-fuck you wowhead maintanence
06:45.48hyperChipmunk! they're not allowed to do maintenance
06:45.48ThraeHmmm wrong name
06:46.04hyperChipmunkwhew
06:46.05hyperChipmunkit's back
06:46.08hyperChipmunkclose call
06:46.14hyperChipmunki had one foot out the window
06:46.27Fisker-is slouken drunk or what?
06:46.38Fisker-In 2.1 unsolicited whispers will be throttled in an attempt to reduce spam and advertisements. The actual throttling rate is still being tuned, but it won't affect normal play. It will however, affect addons which are using whispers for communication.
06:46.39ThraeGintama, one word?
06:46.47Fisker-Further down:
06:46.49Fisker-The whisper throttling does not apply to addon communication.
06:46.58hyperChipmunkhehe
06:47.04hyperChipmunki think they mean the comm events
06:47.18ThraeHe means SendAddonMessage events
06:47.26hyperChipmunkyea those
06:48.09ckknightit's fine as long as you don't send shitloads across the whisper stream
06:48.24ThraeHmmm Gintama isn't what I was thinking of
06:48.26hyperChipmunknot that it matters; they usually aren't more than 255 chars long
06:48.34hyperChipmunkso we'll get it anyway
06:48.50hyperChipmunkthey just split them up into multiple /whispers
06:48.51nymbiamaybe throttle those harder in acecomm just in case?
06:49.21hyperChipmunkwell, figure out what the throttle rate is before doing anything
06:49.40hyperChipmunkmy guess it only needs to be macro-speed
06:49.52hyperChipmunkwhich is really really quick
06:50.37hyperChipmunki'd even go as far as to only make it apply when the source characters below level 5 not on your friends list
06:50.41ckknightnymbia: yea, might be worthwhile.
06:50.45hyperChipmunksource is*
06:50.58ThraeZealotOnAStick: Maybe it was a OVA or Omake, I'm confused now...I'll go to sleep before I confuse more people
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06:51.18hyperChipmunktoo late
06:52.39ZealotOnAStickbah, it's not a bleach spinoff.  Though it might be amusing.
06:52.57ZealotOnAStickThere are 2 bleach movies.
06:53.04NightHawkTheSaneyour mom's a bleach movie
06:53.18ZealotOnAStickI've not watched Sealed Sword Frenzy yet, which I'm going to do after this episode of Pythagoras Switch.
06:53.40NightHawkTheSaneI need to catch up on my bleach. ><
06:54.00NightHawkTheSaneI flaked out about the start of the Bounto plotline cause it was.. stupid. >.>
06:55.07Fisker-sylvanaar
06:55.10Fisker-i want to rape you
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06:58.46[Ammo]yay for kergoth :)
06:59.21nymbialol
06:59.40NightHawkTheSanelol
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07:00.11NightHawkTheSanedammit.
07:00.34NightHawkTheSaneI wonder if i can re-bind "close tab" in x-chat
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07:01.14hyperChipmunklet's hope not
07:01.35NightHawkTheSanewell, i mean, rebind away from cmd-w, so i stop leaving channels because i forget that x-chat is the active app. >.>
07:02.10hyperChipmunkyea, and i mean, let's hope not, so you keep going away. maybe one time you'll forget to come back
07:02.17NightHawkTheSane... /cry
07:02.32nymbiawtb 2.1
07:02.47hyperChipmunkdude no joke
07:03.02hyperChipmunkbeen a long time since i've so looked forward to a patch
07:03.03nymbiafinish black temple so we can have our ui stuff that's been ready for a month >.<
07:03.17hyperChipmunkhee
07:03.29NightHawkTheSanepush black temple out to 2.2, and just implement the ui stuff and other fixes now. ><
07:03.31hyperChipmunkand gimme a way to break 261 eng
07:04.34nymbialol
07:05.09hyperChipmunki got healpot injector schematic a few days ago...it's friggin' grey (235)
07:05.28[Ammo]roll a gnome +15 free engi
07:05.40hyperChipmunk=P
07:05.45trh_hyperChipmunk: farm the khorium scope recipe
07:05.52trh_hyperChipmunk: you can at least sell them :)
07:05.54hyperChipmunki've had the khorium scope recipe
07:06.16hyperChipmunkbut i've only gotten 1 dawnstone
07:06.22hyperChipmunknot enough for my own rifle even
07:06.23kergothyou know, aloft really serves as a contrast to remind me of just how fugly the nameplate casting bars are
07:06.29ZealotOnAStickaren't you short there about 100 points?
07:06.40hyperChipmunki meant 361
07:06.50ZealotOnAStickI was engineer for over 2 years.
07:06.55ZealotOnAStickDid it in beta, did it in release.
07:07.00hyperChipmunk261 you can do like thorium shells to 300 =P
07:07.21[Ammo]I'm engineer on my 'lock
07:07.26[Ammo]still pondering on switching to JC
07:07.29ZealotOnAStickThen at 62 I realize how much of a frigging waste the profession is, which I should have done months previously in beta.
07:07.40[Ammo]but waiting the promised changes
07:07.44[Ammo]got the mats for JC on an alt
07:07.47ZealotOnAStickand dropped it and picked up enchanting.  I'm sitting at 370 enchanting and it's so damn hard to boost now.
07:07.50[Ammo]so easily switched :)
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07:08.00hyperChipmunkalso, you can't sell khorium scopes; they're about 150g more expensive than the adamantite ones, and only provide 2 more dmg
07:08.01kergothi had eng for quite a while on my rogue, was quite happy to ditch it for a second gathering prof.  rogue's a skins/herb farmer now. heh
07:08.16[Ammo]my rogue's skin/mine
07:08.17HerioI took enchanting solely for the ring enchants
07:08.19[Ammo]my pally mine/herb
07:08.22ZealotOnAStickI should have paid more attention in beta, dropped engy and started enchanting before TBC.  Could have been at 300 and only had to boost from there.
07:08.26[Ammo]yeah I'm ench as well
07:08.46[Ammo]still love my cloak and cables ;)
07:08.57[Ammo]the cloak = pro for midair fun
07:09.02ZealotOnAStickThe cables hated me.  I liked the cloak.
07:09.15ZealotOnAStickGoing to miss the shrink ray.
07:09.21Heriothe cloak sucks now
07:09.26Herioget the x-52 rocket helm
07:09.30Herioit's just as good :O
07:09.40ZealotOnAStickI still laugh remembering at shrinking c'thun and getting people killed because the beam graphic shrunk too, but not the effect.
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07:09.54Fisker->:I
07:10.05ZealotOnAStickTotally unintentional!
07:10.07ZealotOnAStickBut funny.
07:10.29[Ammo]rofl
07:10.39NightHawkTheSanethat's awesome
07:11.12ZealotOnAStickThe gnomish remote is still fun, when it works.
07:11.21[Ammo]they nerfed it in erotic instances
07:11.34ZealotOnAStickdid they nerf it on fel reavers?
07:11.47hyperChipmunkthey disabled it in outland
07:12.10[Ammo]it's not disabled in outland
07:12.11ZealotOnAStickBah.  Killjoys.  All the more reason engineering is pointless now.
07:12.20[Ammo]it just doesn't work on heroic instances and fel reavers anymore
07:12.37ZealotOnAStickI know they hotfixed the Curator to not be suspectible.
07:12.44ZealotOnAStickwasn't sure on the fel reavers or doomwalker.
07:13.14[Ammo]those were all fixed
07:13.28[Ammo]basically only in mecha normal mode
07:13.29[Ammo]yay
07:14.01hyperChipmunkhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=86914728&sid=1 haha best first post on the wow boards ever; not even an edit
07:14.15nymbiaman.. autobar's code is so ugly
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07:14.33[Ammo]nymbia: but it works
07:14.36nymbiaat least tab it properly >.<
07:15.31nymbiaapparently it barely works
07:15.51[Ammo]time to go buy my wife a bday present while she's still asleep :)
07:15.58hyperChipmunkaww
07:16.06hyperChipmunkhow schweet and procrastinative
07:16.09[Ammo]she'll wonder why I'm zooming off in the car
07:16.10nymbialol
07:16.10[Ammo]but shrug
07:16.24NightHawkTheSane"zomg he's having an affair!"
07:16.30[Ammo]:)
07:16.39[Ammo]later
07:16.44NightHawkTheSanethen she's going to stab you when you get back
07:16.48hyperChipmunkhe's letting her divorce his sorry butt for her birthday
07:17.00NightHawkTheSaneand she'll be crying over your bloody corpse and find her birthday present, it'll be morbidly tragic
07:17.09hyperChipmunkhehee
07:18.54kergothnymbia: <3 pt3bar.  someone should code a pt3bar configurator addon :)
07:19.04hyperChipmunkwhat's it do?
07:19.19NightHawkTheSanedoes pt3bar do pop-up buttons yet?
07:21.33nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: that's why i was looking at the autobar code, started on the popup things
07:21.48NightHawkTheSanenymbia: ahh, *nod*. yeah, that's the main reason i'm sticking with autobar
07:23.14kergothi think i could live without the popup stuff, as long as i kept around autorack for in combat pot stuff
07:23.49NightHawkTheSanewell, I stack a bunch of different items in a single autobar slot, like mounts/hearth/astral recall, all buff food, etc. *shrug*
07:24.06ZealotOnAStickAhh, never mind.  I have watched Sealed Sword Frenzy.
07:25.12Fisker-~seen sylvanaar
07:25.39purlsylvanaar is currently on #wowace (5h 56m 27s), last said: 'ckknight ok'.
07:27.52kergothah. i use gogomount to mount, and dagassist for astral recall / find herbs / profs / hearth
07:28.04Fisker-btw nymbia can you detect when paladins are using critheals? :o
07:28.21NightHawkTheSaneHmm, what's dagasssit?
07:29.18kergothhttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/6075/dagassist/
07:29.39kergothi modified my local copy to include all the hunter tracking spells in additoin to the stuff it comes with
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07:31.23NightHawkTheSaneiiiiinteresting
07:31.35Fisker-ehttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/7182/1337target/ <-zomg
07:32.03Fisker-without the e :(
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07:38.45nymbiaso like.. why would you set a state on one line
07:38.55Fisker-nymbia !
07:38.58nymbiathen set it to something different on the very next line
07:39.24hyperChipmunkside effects?
07:39.28hyperChipmunki do it in bulkmail
07:39.58nymbiabut it's just a double-set of showstates
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07:40.02hyperChipmunki open and close the bags to be sure all the slots exist so i can scon 'em
07:40.06Fisker-would it be possible for estimated heals in pitbull to expect a critheal when i put on divine favor or any other thing that gives me 100% crit?
07:40.13nymbiapopupHeader:SetAttribute("showstates", tostring(i));
07:40.13nymbiapopupHeader:SetAttribute("showstates", tostring(i)..","..tostring(i + AUTOBAR_SHIFTSTATE));
07:40.30nymbiaFisker-: hell no! ;)
07:40.42Fisker-:(
07:41.10hyperChipmunkthey don't get returned with enumerateframes until they've been opened at least once
07:41.18nymbiaFisker-: i dont wanna do buff scanning in there.. get drdamage to throw me that info and we'll talk ;)
07:41.23mjcwhy does wow take forevre to load teh first time on a new account
07:41.25mjcsdjfoasdjfklasjfasf
07:41.26Fisker-it does
07:41.27mjcfucking gay
07:41.34Fisker-t updates it's spell when you put it on
07:41.38nymbialies!
07:41.49Fisker-i.e. without divine favor the average heal for my spell is 3xxx
07:41.53Fisker-with divine favor it's 5xxx
07:43.58NightHawkTheSane"There are like 6 Law and Orders on now, have you not seen ANY of them?"
07:44.02Fisker-yay
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07:44.18Fisker-got my +30 int on weapon enchant
07:44.28Fisker-and i can farm as holy specced wooo
07:44.35hyperChipmunk...and yet still dumb as a brick
07:44.37hyperChipmunkamazing
07:44.49ZealotOnAStickthat one wasn't bad for me, I got it within about 2  or 2 1/2 hours of trying.
07:44.59ZealotOnAStickMajor Spellpower, on the otherhand ...
07:45.14ZealotOnAStickstill don't have it, and really, really, really hate the damn razaani space ninjas.
07:45.28Fisker-took me 30 minutes to get int enchant
07:45.35Fisker-same for spellpower on both bracers and weapon
07:45.42ZealotOnAStickThey don't even drop any decent crap other than the enchant I'm looking for.  I've gotten a couple of greens, a shitload of netherweave, and grey trash.
07:46.00ZealotOnAStickDIAF.
07:46.12hyperChipmunkEVERYBODY love-a da netherweave
07:46.17Fisker-hehe
07:46.49Fisker-Infact i got the 2 spellpower enchants on 2 mobs
07:46.54Fisker-2 mobs each that is
07:47.06ZealotOnAStickwell, I'll say this, as soon as I can finally get the last 2 skillups I need for my druid to hit 330 from heavy runecloth, maxing FA will be DONE.
07:47.27hyperChipmunkhaha yea
07:47.33hyperChipmunki was like that too
07:47.46hyperChipmunkcould not get runecloth for th elife of me
07:47.53hyperChipmunkafter a week, finally hit 330
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07:48.05hyperChipmunk5 minutes after that, 375
07:48.06Wiebbemorning
07:48.20hyperChipmunkeyy
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08:26.15CIA-1103roartindon * r31963 10Aloft/ (Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua): Aloft: Changed "Elite Icon" naming to "Boss Icon". Added separate colors for boss units. Added party pet color.
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08:56.08CIA-1103roartindon * r31964 10Aloft/ (Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua): Aloft: Added group health and group health deficit modes
08:58.51nymbiableh, this is annoying
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08:59.26nymbiai've got a frame whose state is toggled when a button is moused over
08:59.52nymbiathe state is toggling just fine, but it's not showing or hiding
09:00.50Fisker-nymbia !
09:00.51Fisker-fix fix
09:00.56nymbia:p
09:02.54Fisker-:(
09:03.05Fisker-i need to get online and so forth
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09:10.46Fisker-blood guard porung is still emtpy RAWR nymbia
09:11.56Fisker-~steveballmer nymbia
09:12.28purlACTION bounces on fisker- screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!"
09:12.28nymbiapft
09:12.28nymbiarun the dataminer then ;p
09:12.38nymbiahahaha wrecked
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09:14.03CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31965 10Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/Substitutions.lua): Prat: Cleanup and move to using the SML constant SOUND
09:15.36Fisker-sylvanaar !
09:16.57PhatrikSML? Super Mario Land? :O
09:18.56ZealotOnAStickStrident Maniacal Lemmings.
09:19.10ZealotOnAStickor maybe SharedMediaLib.  One or the other.
09:20.03ckknightSuper Mario World's the best
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09:24.33CIA-1103roartindon * r31966 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Added Health option to display current health, including enemies estimated health via MobHealth
09:24.36nevcairielmeh lots of highlights for not being here one day..
09:25.54nevcairielSendAddonMessage can now use Whisper as target in 2.1.0 .. thats nice :)
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09:31.37Fisker-i thought it always could that :o
09:31.55nevcairielnah
09:32.01nevcairielyou had to use real whispers
09:32.12nevcairielbut they are implementing whisper throttling
09:32.20nevcairieland to not harm addons, they added addonmessage per whisper
09:33.34CIA-1103roartindon * r31967 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Added code that's slightly better if MobHealth3 is installed instead of using MobHealthDB (ugh)
09:33.58CIA-1103nymbia * r31968 10cyCircled/plugins/PT3Bar.lua:
09:33.58CIA-11cyCircled:
09:33.58CIA-11- Toss in support for the PT3Bar popup buttons. Not that I've finished or committed them yet..
09:34.08nevcairiellol
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09:34.22nymbia;)
09:34.25nevcairielsupport for something thats not even in, cyCircled is advanced :)
09:34.33nymbiahell yeah
09:35.04nymbiai'm being a lazy ass and getting the easy stuff outta the way first.   and why work on ugly buttons? ;)
09:36.37trh_Tauren that use mana are just Dyslectic. Instead of going /moo, It's always /oom
09:36.45trh_that's like the best though for the day ever!
09:37.49nevcairielheh
09:40.25Wiebbenevcairiel = iriel? :>
09:41.13nevcairielno
09:41.39Wiebbelooked like it :P
09:42.49Wiebbedoes anyone know, why if you do: date("%H:%M:%S", 1) you get 01:00:01 (the 1 at the start)
09:43.27Wiebbeits odd, because 00:00:01 exists in a 24h format
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09:46.42drinwhat does the Lua manual say about it?
09:47.51Wiebbelemme reread that, although its basicly just the format
09:48.39Wiebbehour (0--23)
09:48.42Wiebbeodd
09:49.06drinhour (0--23), min (0--59), sec (0--61), 61??
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09:49.30trh_Wiebbe: it displays 01:00 with us-locale too
09:49.42trh_drin: thats probably for the leap second every xyz years
09:49.48drinah : 0
09:50.55trh_Wiebbe: ah
09:51.02trh_Wiebbe: you're UTC+1, aren't you?
09:51.19dringmt+1
09:51.25trh_that's utc+1 ^^
09:51.30drin;)
09:51.39trh_unix timestamps are UTC-based
09:51.44Wiebbethats so lame
09:51.45Wiebbeseriously
09:51.46Wiebbe:P
09:51.51trh_so unix timestamp of 0 is 0+3600 in utc+1 =)
09:51.58drin: )
09:52.27drintimes and dates should be universal one hardcore time, no timezones. just adapt yourself, dont let the systems do it :D
09:52.42Wiebbeso now i still have to do it the lame way
09:52.46Wiebbeand build up the time myself
09:52.49trh_drin: i'd be happy if the just fix the daylight savings crap
09:52.53drinyes : 0
09:52.54trh_=> remove it
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09:53.02drinyou can format it in another way right?
09:53.17Wiebbehmm
09:53.18Wiebbelike?
09:53.29drinIf format starts with `!´, then the date is formatted in Coordinated Universal Time.
09:53.32drinor is that the problem?
09:53.42drinnot sure how to implement such a thing
09:53.46Wiebbehmm
09:53.51Wiebbelemme tyr that drin
09:53.52Wiebbesounds good
09:54.54trh_with !%c it's 00:00:00 =)
09:54.55trh_as it should be :)
09:54.55drin: )
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09:55.07Wiebbenice
09:55.10Wiebbezank you guys ^^
09:55.16Wiebbealthough i could have though it up myself :/
09:55.22drinlike all problems m8 :D
09:58.03Wiebbe^^
09:58.36Wiebbein my first addon
09:58.39Wiebbei did it like this:
09:58.44Wiebbenumber of seconds
09:58.53Wiebbedivide by 60
09:59.03Wiebbeno wiat, first by 24, then 60 and then 60 again
09:59.08Wiebbeto get the time in a normal format -_-
09:59.16trh_uh.. there's a function for it :)
09:59.22trh_SecondsToTime i think
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09:59.53CIA-1103shiftos * r31969 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (10 files in 10 dirs): FuBar_QuestsFu: esES updated
10:00.20Wiebbenot in lua?
10:00.25Wiebbeor in ace itself?
10:00.29trh_Wiebbe: not in lua, but wow api
10:00.34Wiebbelal
10:00.37trh_Wiebbe: try  /dump SecondsToTime(100);
10:01.02Wiebbesec
10:01.06Wiebbewow isnt running yet
10:01.06Wiebbe;p
10:02.07trh_it's bit odd that it displays nothing insted of "0 Secs" when you give it a 0, but w/e
10:02.35Wiebbeand you get a formatted string like %H:%M:%S?
10:02.37Wiebbeor %T
10:03.00trh_uh no.. it's to convert a timespan into human readable format
10:03.17Wiebbelemme check :>
10:03.20Wiebbemy pc is slow ass again
10:04.34trh_to get a formatted date string based on console just use %x %X and %c
10:04.43Wiebbei see
10:04.52Wiebbei need it more like a stopwatch
10:05.14Wiebbeso no date as well :)
10:07.04Fisker-can i make a macro so holy shock doesn't cast unless i have a target?
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10:07.31Wiebbeeuhm
10:07.36Wiebbehow can it cast if you dont have a target?
10:07.41Wiebbeits a targetted spell
10:07.54Fisker-if nothing is targetted it selfcasts
10:08.02Wiebbethen its an addon thats doing that
10:08.02Wiebbew
10:08.07Wiebbewow itself doesnt do that :P
10:08.14Fisker-:o
10:08.22Wiebbei use bongo's for my buttons
10:08.26Wiebbeand i can just click on holy shock
10:08.30Wiebbeand then on the mob/player
10:08.49Fisker-ah
10:08.56Fisker-probably bartender
10:09.14Fisker-but that's the way i like it, besides for holyshock
10:09.28Wiebbehehe :>
10:09.52Fisker-I joined a group and was told to dps :(
10:09.57Fisker-paladins worst nightmare
10:10.43Wiebbelol
10:10.46Wiebbeas a holy paladin?
10:10.53Fisker-yeah
10:11.05Fisker-it's working alright
10:11.12Fisker-just holy shock + melee/righteouness
10:11.38Wiebbewell, Seal of Vengeance does more dps
10:11.46WiebbeSoR starts doing more if you have +700 spelldamage
10:12.15Wiebbeif you are alliance that is
10:12.22Fisker-not some alliance n00b :P
10:12.32Wiebbegah
10:12.32Fisker-seal of blood sucks tbh
10:12.35Wiebbeno idea about SoB ;p
10:12.44Wiebbe"look at me, i am killing myself!"
10:12.45Wiebbe;p
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10:18.23sbii hate lua!
10:18.25sbi:/
10:19.19trh_Fisker-: [target=exists] ?
10:19.35sbitrh_: [target,exist]
10:19.40trh_ok.. =)
10:19.46sbitrh_: [target=target,exist]
10:19.47trh_but it was something like that :)
10:20.07sbiyou can remove target=target btw, that's the default ^^
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10:32.55CIA-1103nymbia * r31970 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
10:32.55CIA-11PT3Bar:
10:32.55CIA-11- Some popup buttons maybe ;)
10:35.56nymbiathere
10:36.06nymbianow no more feature requests
10:36.07nymbiaEVER
10:37.56sbihttp://mx.ics-srl.com/~sbi/last_minute.jpg
10:38.19sbiit says "swim throug the atlantic ocean" :/
10:38.49SarozSo... in 2.1 SendAddonMessage() can use the "WHISPER" chat type for targeted communication:
10:38.49SarozSendAddonMessage("prefix", "message" [,"type"] [,"target"])
10:38.49SarozThe whisper throttling does not apply to addon communication.
10:38.51SarozZOMG!
10:39.25sbicute
10:49.35nymbianice
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10:51.01Sarozoh, and
10:51.02SarozIn 2.1 unsolicited whispers will be throttled in an attempt to reduce spam and advertisements. The actual throttling rate is still being tuned, but it won't affect normal play. It will however, affect addons which are using whispers for communication.
10:51.35Sarozsweeeet
10:51.38Sarozgive 2.1
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10:51.49Fisker-do not want 2.1.0
10:52.04Sarozwhy not
10:52.17Fisker-diverse opinion
10:58.22CIA-1103rabbit * r31971 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Bugfix.
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11:01.30whizterhi, how can i disable that player menue in the middle of archud?
11:02.59vhaarrWiebbe: did you credit me in that raid tracker mod?
11:04.53NickenyfikenHmm when you calculate stats for attacks and stuff... should a crit also be counted as a hit?
11:05.26NickenyfikenFor example if you hit one time and crit. Do i have 1 crit and 1 hit or just 1 crit?
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11:16.11trh_Nickenyfiken: if you count additionally hitnormal, then "and", otherwise just 1 crit... at least that would make sense
11:18.09trh_Nickenyfiken: and as you can'T decide if a missed hit would have been a crit it makes most sense to just count miss, hit, crit
11:18.23trh_Nickenyfiken: and all together must give a 100% :)
11:19.27Nickenyfikenah yeah
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11:20.01CIA-1103wiebbe * r31972 10wRlog/ (. Core.lua Icon.tga wRlog.toc):
11:20.02CIA-11wRlog:
11:20.02CIA-11- Added an icon ingame
11:20.02CIA-11- Added the ability to disconnect/reloadui to continue logging the raid
11:20.02CIA-11- Added an raid timer
11:20.23trh_Nickenyfiken: and missrate would be miss/(miss+hit+crit) i guess :)
11:20.25Wiebbevhaarr i sure did :)
11:20.30Wiebbeyou are in the Credits of the TOC
11:20.41Wiebbei dont have a readme yet or anything
11:20.47Wiebbebut ill place you there as well :)
11:21.38Nickenyfikentrb_: ok hmm, right now i do miss/(miss+hit) only, should add crit i guess
11:21.56Wiebbevhaarr, if that is enough though. lemme know if you want something else :P
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11:22.17trh_Nickenyfiken: ya.. at least if you don't count crits as hits :)
11:22.53trh_Nickenyfiken: you could also count crits as hits, but then you'd have to do a hit-crit to calculate the normal-hits value
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11:37.30CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31973 10Prat/ (extras/util.lua modules/PlayerNames.lua):
11:37.30CIA-11Prat: Added support for coloring of the player's level. You can choose same as player, same as channel, or have it colored based on the difference between your level and the other persons. PlayerNames:Level Color Mode.
11:37.30CIA-11Note: This is still a little buggy.
11:39.55sylvanaarif anyone runs that in a raid anytime soon, can you let me know if you get non-colored playernames for people just joining the group
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11:52.22CIA-1103helium * r31974 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua:
11:52.22CIA-11!BugGrabber:
11:52.22CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
11:53.20CIA-1103helium * r31975 10AbacusLib/Abacus-2.0/Abacus-2.0.lua:
11:53.21CIA-11AbacusLib:
11:53.21CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
11:53.59CIA-1103helium * r31976 10AnchorsAway/AnchorsAway-1.0/AnchorsAway-1.0.lua: AnchorsAway: updated zhTW locale
11:54.51CIA-1103helium * r31977 10SimpleCombatLog/localization-zhTW.lua:
11:54.51CIA-11SimpleCombatLog:
11:54.51CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
11:56.29CIA-1103wiebbe * r31978 10wRlog/ (Icon.tga icon.tga):
11:56.30CIA-11wRlog:
11:56.30CIA-11- Renamed the icon.tga file
11:56.36Wiebbebah
11:56.38Wiebbeodd renaming stuff
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12:00.45CIA-1103wiebbe * r31979 10wRlog/ (Core.lua icon.tga wRlog.toc):
12:00.45CIA-11wRlog:
12:00.45CIA-11- REALLY added the icon now
12:00.45CIA-11- Timer shows in the tooltip when the text is disabled
12:00.45CIA-11- Fixed a bug where the saving of the currently logged raid was not reset correctly
12:03.54Industrialkergoth: ping
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12:22.16SarozCraftList doesnt work on enchanting
12:22.17Sarozwtf
12:24.51Fisker-nymbia !
12:25.13nymbia?
12:25.20Fisker-run ze dataminer!
12:25.23Fisker-:o
12:25.33nymbiapft!
12:25.35Fisker-:(
12:25.54WiebbeJumpCounter
12:25.54Wiebberofl
12:25.57Wiebbewhat people create ^^
12:26.38sbi..
12:26.38sbiuseful addon..
12:26.38Wiebbehaha
12:26.38Wiebbeits funny ^^
12:26.42sbidoes it play boing.wav ?
12:27.15Wiebbezomg
12:27.19Wiebbethat would be worse !
12:27.34sbiwhat do you think is the most suited rogue spec for 5v5 arena?
12:27.55CIA-1103nymbia * r31980 10PeriodicTable-3.0/dataminer.lua:
12:27.56CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
12:27.56CIA-11- Fix heroic-only mining (drycoded some more)
12:28.09nymbiai'm up to like 208000 jumps
12:28.10Wiebbethat NameTag addon is so cool
12:28.10Wiebbe:>
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12:37.36Fisker-but nymbia that doesn't put data into Porung :(
12:37.40Fisker-rawr
12:37.48Fisker-Porung needs data
12:42.12vhaarrWiebbe: Ah, X-Credits is fine, but note the uppercased C.
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12:48.56Wiebbedoh
12:49.33Wiebbesince Category was with a capital
12:49.34Wiebbe:P
12:52.35CIA-1103rabbit * r31981 10Ace2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Ace2: zhTW update from helium_wong.
12:53.44nymbiaFisker-: you arent getting any updates if wowhead keeps sending me partial pages and crashing the miner
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12:54.49Fisker-QQ
12:55.11Fisker-What would you have me do master?
12:55.31nymbiajump out a window
12:55.55Wiebbe"ut still many Ace Mod authors include all neccesarcy librarys in the addon itself. This isn't the purpose behind a global library so the same modules are loaded twice or even more consuming memory and performance."
12:56.09Fisker-That would accomplish little given that i do not live in a tall building
12:56.09Wiebbeisnt it so that the only 1 library is used?
12:57.20Fisker-At the initial load 2 of the same libraries will be loaded
12:57.21nymbiaWiebbe: look for yourself. particularly the line, 'if not AceLibrary:IsNewVersion(major, minor) then return end' that all libraries have ;)
12:57.25Fisker-in case of a lot of duplicates
12:57.43Fisker-After the first GC, all duplicate libraries should be cleansed from the memory
12:58.04nymbiathey wont even load if there's already an equal or newer version loaded
12:58.12nymbiathey parse then they bail
12:58.19Fisker-even better
12:58.34Fisker-So in short: Very little memory spike in the start that'll get cleaned after first GC
12:58.45Wiebbebah
12:58.56Wiebbei dont like non-informed coders :>
12:59.10Wiebbethe guy from chatMOD is claiming that Ace2 sucks because we all include the libraries
12:59.16sbi"coder" sounds like an insult here :D
12:59.48Wiebbewhich "beats the purpose behind a global library"
12:59.48Wiebbehaha
12:59.53Wiebbenot intended sbi ;)
12:59.57sbiWiebbe: he maybe thinks reinventing a squared wheel it's a better solution :)
13:00.28Wiebbehehe :P
13:00.28nymbiathe points make it more extreme
13:00.28Fisker-You could, if you wanted update the ace libraries through wowaceupdater and (if the mod isn't shitty coded) delete the libraries in the libs folder
13:00.48sbiMisinformation Technology
13:00.57Fisker-It's the new IT
13:01.04Fisker-MIT = MisInformation Technology
13:01.09Fisker-I want to study there
13:01.14sbiFisker-: lol :D
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13:01.30Wiebbelol Fisker-
13:01.31Wiebbe:P
13:01.46Wiebbei like the way Ace2 works
13:01.55sbisame here
13:01.59sbii hate lua btw =)
13:02.00Wiebbeis perfect imho.. this way you dont get that players are missing a library
13:02.06Fisker-Should be noted though that not all addons actually benefit from being "Ace'd", as some can be very small and efficient without using ace at all
13:02.08Wiebbeor have a old version which crashes
13:02.28Wiebbetrue Fisker-
13:02.38Fisker-btw vhaarr you there?
13:02.43Wiebbebut its not only ace, its also the general coding practice i guess
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13:04.38headhace:/
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13:08.58headhacei need a 5vs5 arena team :|
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13:14.14Nomad_WandererAnyone heard of DamageMeters not being able to be moved or right clicked on? A guildie says it's stuck in the top middle of his screen, and is blaming that he tried out violation... I told him that they have nothing to do with each other... sigh
13:14.40Nomad_WandererI think he might have an invisible frame up there? maybe ontop of dm?
13:15.40Nomad_Wandereryep.. that was it. had him disable all mods, and then he was able to move it, and then had him re-enable all mods.
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13:19.01Wiebbeholy crap, prat is awesome :>
13:21.12headhacei agree
13:21.43headhacewhy ktm is not ace
13:21.46headhacei hate it!
13:27.23Wiebberofl
13:27.27Wiebbewhy should it be ace? :P
13:27.31Wiebbei think they discussed it alot
13:27.38Wiebbebut it was a too big a rewrite or something
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13:30.47Fisker-nah
13:30.55Fisker-kenco doesn't think it'll benefit his mod
13:31.57headhaceone of the best things in ace is consistency
13:34.04deltronaion looks so cool
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13:42.39MikmaI HAS ARRIVED!
13:45.10HealthHmm. Even with the Raid frames hidden in Pitbull you can still click them :/
13:46.35deltronI has a flavor.
13:46.52deltronpitbull needs some work with raid functionality
13:47.10deltronI had a strange issue where I had 4 of the same person on the bars
13:48.48HealthI don't want to use the raid stuff, but it's still there :/
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13:56.43Wiebbethis is odd, when i right-click in the middle of my screen, i get the pitbull configuration menu for Player Pet
13:56.43Wiebbe:>
13:56.43Wiebbeeven though the frame is next to my own player frame
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14:10.58Wiebbeoh wait
14:10.58Wiebbelocking it helps
14:10.58Wiebbe^^
14:11.28deltroneh
14:11.41deltronoh n/m
14:12.04vhaarrFisker-: pong
14:12.15Fisker-rawr
14:12.30Fisker-With banzailib does other members report aggrostatus of each other?
14:12.54vhaarrBanzai-1.1 does no communication.
14:13.34SarozWTF is PB3?
14:14.31Mikmaperiodicbar3 :D
14:14.38Sarozwhats that
14:14.42Mikmai think hehehehehehhohohohoohoho
14:16.05headhacePlayBtastion 3!
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14:41.23HjalteWiebbe, your raidlog, can it be used by any guild or is it coded with certain " dkp habits" and such?
14:42.51Sarozcan it be used with eqdkp?
14:43.31Wiebbeno
14:43.36Wiebbeit can be used for any guild
14:43.41Wiebbeit just logs events with playernames
14:43.48Wiebbewe use it to paste it to the forums
14:43.52Wiebbewhere everyone can check it
14:43.57Wiebbeand i use my own parser for it
14:44.04Wiebbeit cannot be used with eqdkp
14:44.16Sarozm eh
14:44.20Wiebbeit simple outputs like: Date Time - Raid description
14:44.30WiebbePlayername1, playername2, ect
14:44.37Wiebbeand that for all events in the raid
14:45.04Sarozhow is that usefull
14:45.11WiebbeHjalte, it doesnt assign RP itself.. the idea if that you just get an attendance check for players
14:45.26Wiebbelike i said saroz, you kill a boss, take attendance and paste that on the forum
14:45.38HjalteWiebbe, so there is no loot tracking?
14:45.44Wiebbeit looks alot like vhaarr's addon, but i did write it from scratch :)
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14:45.51Wiebbenot yet anyway Hjalte
14:46.01Wiebbeauto boss kills and loot is planned though ^^
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14:46.12WiebbeSaroz, at the moment its very usefull for me ;)
14:46.23Wiebbei can be used for the rp system on wow-raids.net
14:46.28Wiebbean system i am working on
14:46.57Sarozhrm
14:47.03SarozWTB CT_RaidTracker replacement
14:47.14Wiebbeheh, with EQdkp i guess? ;p
14:47.14Sarozvhaarr's mod needs a good export feature
14:47.19Sarozofc
14:47.35Wiebbehonestly, its not that difficult to rewrite his exporting feature
14:47.40Wiebbeor add another one
14:47.43Wiebbejust have to know the format
14:47.54Wiebbeits just that the eqDKP importer sucks balls
14:48.08Sarozwell there is an advanced version
14:48.13Fisker-wtf
14:48.15Sarozeqdkp ctraidtracker impoter
14:48.18Fisker-i just met a resto druid
14:48.31Fisker-must be a bug somehow
14:48.31Wiebbeah well, i think eqDKP sucks balls as well ^^
14:48.45Fisker-eqdkp > *
14:48.54Wiebbewhy is that?
14:49.06Fisker-because it's the only known existing system i know off
14:49.14Fisker-:D
14:49.18Wiebbe:)
14:49.23Wiebbeyou have phpraider
14:49.24Sarozindeed
14:49.26Saroznono
14:49.26Wiebbeand GSdkp
14:49.29Sarozphpraider sux
14:49.41Wiebbewell, i agree with that :P
14:49.57Fisker-phpraider isn't a dkp system
14:50.01Fisker-never heard about gsdkp
14:50.02Wiebbeno, thats true
14:50.05Wiebbelal
14:50.10WiebbegsDKP is even stickied
14:50.12Wiebbeon the raid forums
14:50.17Wiebbefrom forums.wow-europe.com
14:50.33Fisker-i don't read bullshit
14:50.43Wiebberight:
14:50.44WiebbeWarning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (61) in /usr/home/gsdkp/public_html/tools_general.php on line 49
14:50.44WiebbeError Connecting To Database !
14:50.45Fisker-i.e. i don't frequent the eu forums much
14:50.49Wiebbewhen going to gsDKP
14:50.49Wiebbe:P
14:51.04Wiebbeheh
14:51.08Wiebbeits all i can post at :(
14:51.11djsparklol
14:51.12deltronwe were going to use EPGP instead of DKP
14:51.14Chompersthe eu forums make me want to stab someone
14:51.26Wiebbewhat the hell is EPGP?
14:52.04Wiebbewell, my system allows upsigning of raids, players, rp groups combined with the administration
14:52.09Fisker-Currently the system is offered as a web service, which means it cannot be downloaded and installed on your own server. There might be plans in the future for such an option but there's no ETA on that.
14:52.09Wiebbeall its lacking is an nice wow addon
14:52.12Fisker-LAAAAAAAAAAAWL
14:52.13Wiebbewhich i am working on now :)
14:52.15Fisker-it sucks already
14:52.17Fisker-no doubt there
14:52.33Fisker-single points of failure are fun
14:52.57Wiebbeyou dont want free stuff which is good? :P
14:53.09Sarozomg omg omg
14:53.11Sarozwowhead slow
14:53.13Saroznooooo
14:53.18Wiebbepff
14:53.21Wiebbenymbia is doing that!
14:53.33Fisker-isn't that good when the service is down now is it?
14:53.43Wiebbehaha, you are so correct Fisker-
14:53.52Wiebbei think there are like 200 guild or something on that site
14:53.56Wiebbethey are screwed now ^^
14:54.10Wiebbethe idea i had of www.wow-raids.net is a bit the same as gsDKP
14:54.16Wiebbeyou get a forum/raiding website
14:54.24djsparkI wish there were a raid event manager and RP system that were integrated
14:54.26Wiebbebut it took me ages to setup :P
14:54.32Wiebbedjspark, thats mine system
14:54.35djsparkwhat's the closest thing that has fubar integration?
14:54.45Wiebbeoh, ingame?
14:54.51Wiebbe:>
14:54.52Fisker-The features of EQDKP is sufficient, and with no standalone free alternative i'm not gonna bother trying anything else
14:54.54djsparkWiebbe, what do you use?
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14:55.04Wiebbenah, i dont have anything ingame djspark :P
14:55.16djsparkare you using phpraider?
14:55.18WiebbeFisker-, do you use it to sign up as well?
14:55.25vhaarrSaroz: NRT was not written for the general public, it has all the features I need.
14:55.25Wiebbeno, i use my own oRs
14:55.26Wiebbe:)
14:55.33Fisker-gsDKP itself is flawed by the fact they offer no standalone download providing guilds with serious problems when their service is disrupted
14:55.38Fisker-I use phpraid for signups
14:56.00Wiebbeand ct_raidtracker for ingame raid tracking?
14:56.06Fisker-yeah
14:56.38Wiebbewhen you export the raid, what do you need to do on the website?
14:56.42Wiebbenothing? just paste/go?
14:57.40Fisker-yup
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14:57.58Wiebbethats nice
14:58.15Fisker-Well if we don't define the cost in the raidtracker we'll have to manually add the cost of course :P
14:58.22vhaarrif a raid tracker mod does not provide that, then what the hell does it provide?
14:58.26vhaarrit's not "nice", it's expected
14:58.42Fisker-^^
14:59.32Fisker-thought you were hinting at that eqdkp couldn't do that already :P
14:59.41djsparkdo ingame dkp systems use a distributed database among all in the guild that have the addon?
14:59.56vhaarrdjspark: Mine does, but it's not finished yet.
15:00.02vhaarrBananaDKP on the SVN.
15:00.07vhaarrDon't use it, it will break.
15:00.09djsparkah yes, I've seen that
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15:00.55djsparkvhaarr: if you want to make it a web exportable system also let me know and I'll lend a hand for the web end of it
15:01.11vhaarrdjspark: alright, but I have no plans for that seeing as my guild has no website.
15:01.19djsparkhehe
15:02.12djsparklol my english is horrible
15:02.14Wiebbe;p
15:02.17djsparkthere's
15:02.21Wiebbethe syncing is hard though
15:02.30Wiebbewe are only using an website for raids/rp
15:02.44djsparknot really, the web end of the system would be view only in my opinion
15:03.02djsparkall real signups, purchases, etc will be ingame... I mean the game still is played there, so why not
15:03.16Wiebbetrue
15:03.20djsparkdoesn't make sense to have a person go out of game to signup for a raid in game
15:03.20JoshBorkevhaarr: how much of the syncing have you written?
15:03.32Wiebbebut i noticed that my guild mates though it was handy to be able to signup where ever :)
15:03.44vhaarrJoshBorke: I had written all of it, but then had to disable it because ChatThrottleLib does not work.
15:03.54Wiebbewhen they are at work they can change there notes and other stuff
15:04.06Fisker-damn bananadkp is b ugged and doesn't work and babies and eating and etc.
15:04.14djsparkyeah it's handy for those sitting at work 9-5pm, but if I had to choose from the nightmare of sorting out who got in a raid, after syncing and having people ingame think they got in because they dont see the websynced adds
15:04.17djsparkjust too much of a mess
15:04.48vhaarrFisker-: yeah it is
15:05.02vhaarrI use it and it works for me, but noone else should even try it.
15:05.20vhaarrat least not until chatthrottlelib is fixed and I commit my working version
15:05.26djsparkif there were ever an automated way of getting web data into the game in a fast manor, then you could allow both signup in and out of game... but until that bit of hell freezes over, I doubt it's feasible
15:05.44vhaarrdjspark: Ace3 to the resque!
15:05.55vhaarrrescue*
15:05.56Fisker-^^
15:05.57djsparkace3 will have a windoze app?
15:06.00vhaarr:P
15:06.07Silviu-;))
15:06.37djsparkyeah, ace4 will be hella cool then :-d
15:06.49Mikmait will be 3rd party application that hooks wow's .exe and modifies the game
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15:07.25djsparkoh yay! good thinking, if blizzard see's thousands of people exploiting the game, maybe they'll give up banning people nad just allow it
15:07.49JoshBorkevhaarr: what's broken about ChatThrottleLib?
15:07.50Wiebbeill show you a demo for my system
15:07.53Wiebbelemme create one first though ;p
15:08.11vhaarrJoshBorke: You can still disconnect even when using BULK transfer rates.
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15:08.24vhaarrJoshBorke: So the parameters for its queueing system have to be tweaked.
15:10.46vhaarrNot only "can", but with the data set I've built up for my guild in BananaDKP, I consistently disconnect any time it tries to sync.
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15:11.07vhaarrWhich is why I had to disable the syncing alltogether :P
15:13.32JoshBorkebah, you just send the entire table :-(
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15:22.44Ironhandone of my guild members is reporting an error from BigWigs on logging in: interface/addons/bigwigs/libs/acelibrary.lua:543: Tourist-2.0: Bad Argument#2 to 'IsHostile' (string expected, got boolean)
15:22.50Ironhandanyone have a clue what could be causing this?
15:23.04vhaarrIronhand: He needs to upgrade his Tourist library.
15:23.17vhaarrAnd despite looking like the error comes from BigWigs, it has, in fact, NOTHING to do with the error.
15:24.02Ironhandvhaarr: thanks, I'll tell her
15:24.20Fisker-her? Is she hot?
15:24.47Ironhandhaven't seen pics, I'm sorry (swedish & in her 30's though supposedly :-P)
15:24.53vhaarrIronhand: that's alright, give me her phone number, I'll explain it to her myself
15:24.57Ironhand;-)
15:26.03Ironhandwould Tourist-2.0 imply that the addon needing to be upgraded (I assume Tourist is coming included with another addon), is an Ace addon?
15:26.16vhaarryes
15:26.19Ironhandok
15:26.19vhaarrmost likely
15:28.39Gnarfozhm
15:29.02Gnarfozthe first 3 bytes of CorpsePoint.lua contain some non-ascii characters
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15:29.16Gnarfozmy editor seems to eat them, are they important? (looks like some kind of unicode-thingy?)
15:29.39GnarfozEF BB BF
15:29.45vhaarryes, they are
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15:30.33vhaarrremoving them would fuck it up for asian users
15:30.41hyperChipmunksweet
15:30.59hyperChipmunkMUAHAHAHHA
15:31.05vhaarrevul
15:31.08hyperChipmunknow the asians will never find their corpses!!!
15:31.14vhaarrhaha
15:31.16Funkeh`hi
15:31.20hyperChipmunkthe World of Warcraft is MINE!
15:31.21vhaarrheyho
15:31.37vhaarrthe farmbots will never recover
15:31.43vhaarrthe economy will collapse
15:32.10Wiebbe:>
15:32.55hyperChipmunki r genious!
15:33.06Mikmalies
15:39.35Fisker-I R GENIUS healer btw
15:41.08kenlyriclesser heal, rank 1?
15:41.13kenlyricit's most mana efficient!
15:41.33WiebbeFisker-, feel free to take a look
15:41.34Wiebbehttp://demo.wow-raids.net
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15:41.57cncfanaticsyo ppl
15:42.02Wiebbewrong game!
15:42.03Wiebbe;
15:42.05Wiebbe:P
15:42.08Fisker-a look at what?!
15:42.16Wiebbemy raiding system ;)
15:42.32Wiebbecombination of eqDKP and phpraider basicly
15:42.44Wiebbealthough still different ofcourse
15:42.51deltronwhich?
15:42.53deltronlinkplz
15:43.08deltronthe demo.wow-raids.net ?
15:43.17Wiebbehttp://demo.wow-raids.net
15:43.18Wiebbeyeh
15:43.18Fisker-nice idea :P
15:43.40Wiebbeits empty ofcourse because i deleted all from my own raiding guild :>
15:43.52Wiebbebut you can full around anyway you like in that one
15:44.15deltronlooks interesting
15:44.31deltronwe're not using DKP in kara
15:44.37WiebbeRP categories
15:44.41Wiebbeyou can add/remove them anyway you want
15:44.43deltronbut I think we're doing EPGP later heh
15:44.48Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar/listmembers.php <-this is our dkp site
15:44.53Wiebbewhats that anyway deltron?
15:44.55Wiebbelink? :P
15:45.12deltronsure, sec
15:45.24Wiebbeis it the same idea?
15:45.28deltronWiebbe: http://code.google.com/p/epgp/
15:45.31deltronit's similar to DKP
15:45.50Wiebbei see
15:45.54Wiebbethe reward system
15:46.07deltronhttp://www.sanctuary-guild.org/eqdkp/listmembers.php <-- heh mine :P
15:46.08Wiebbewell, the "awesomeness" of my system is that RP is quite manual ;p
15:46.11Wiebbezomg
15:46.13Wiebbethey look alike!
15:46.14Wiebbe;)
15:46.19deltronRP?
15:46.25Wiebbeits just in a RP
15:46.31WiebbeRP Raid points
15:46.38deltronok
15:46.41Wiebbeits just in a name..
15:46.43Wiebbenot RP
15:46.53Wiebbei felt that DKP was a lame name
15:46.55Wiebbefrom EQ
15:47.03Wiebbebecause we dont only kill dragons :>
15:47.14deltronhehe
15:47.40Wiebbebut, my system basicly only works with Bidwars and fixed prices
15:47.44Wiebbenot with zero-sum
15:48.07deltronmy guild was zero-sum
15:48.12Wiebbewas?
15:49.10deltronwe're not doing DKP for karazhan
15:49.24deltronneed/greed right now
15:49.24Wiebbewe just roll in kara :P
15:49.28deltronyeah
15:49.29Wiebbeyes, exactly
15:49.47deltronwe've not progressed past kara though :/
15:49.56Wiebbewe are still stuck at gruul himself
15:50.03Wiebbealthough stuck
15:50.05deltronlol
15:50.07Wiebbewe had 3 whipe nights :P
15:50.19Wiebbe30% best or something
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16:18.49Herioyou guys are boring =(
16:19.14Gnarfozfuck you
16:19.27Herio-_-*
16:19.38FumlerAnyone else then me got problems with Prat and FuXpFu?
16:19.46GnarfozFumler: what kind of? I'm using both
16:19.49Heriowhat kind of problems?
16:19.52Herioi also use both
16:19.59FumlerWell the newest version of prat is not working
16:20.10FumlerThe Fubar plugin works, but not the mod itself
16:20.38FumlerAnd FuXPFu hasnt worked for me since 2.0
16:21.09Herioare you using the latest versions?
16:21.17Fumleryes
16:21.22Herioodd
16:21.22HjalteFumler, both works fine here :)
16:21.33Heriotry deleting your SVs for those mods
16:21.38Herioback em up though =P
16:21.45Gnarfozyeah
16:21.52Gnarfozboth have been working fine for me for ages
16:21.56Fumlerok
16:21.57Gnarfozincluding newest rev of both
16:22.09FumlerI updated prat today
16:22.13Fumlerafter that it didnt work
16:22.42Fisker-Antiarc rawr
16:23.51Herioso what broke exactly?
16:24.22Fumlerdont know
16:24.50Heriohmm
16:25.36Herioi'd close out of wow, download the latest vers (wau, off files. or whatever) then starting it up again
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16:26.27Heriosometimes i'll update mods while i'm starting the game (impatiant) and it usually ends up with mods not working, with no real explaination >_<
16:27.09FumlerPrat works now, deleting SV worked, thans man.
16:27.28Fumlerthanks*
16:27.30Gnarfozupdating mods with wow running is not a good idea anyway, Herio
16:27.36Gnarfozit can't pick up new files that way
16:31.27cncfanaticsindeed, toc changes don't get picked up by wow without a restart
16:31.35cncfanaticsit sucks though :;(
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16:33.13Herioyeah, generally i run into problems because of TOC changes, but ehhh
16:33.59Heriosometimes i want to get the latest version of bigwigs/whatever and can't really relog during raid ^_-
16:37.25Fisker-y helo thar?
16:37.54Herioi've got a loverly bunch of coconuts
16:38.00Heriodeedle deet dee dee
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16:49.24Gnarfozyou can never click off debuffs, right?
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16:55.37NeoTronok so it seems half the paladins in the world are insne
16:55.39NeoTroninsane
16:55.42NeoTronat least in our guild
16:55.51Gnarfozdepends
16:55.54NeoTronone by one they seem to go postal and do stupid stuff
16:55.55Gnarfozwhat are you basing that on?
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16:56.12kenlyrichalf?
16:56.16NeoTron2 paladins gquitting in some kind of crazed rage/self pity
16:56.19kenlyriclucky
16:56.46NeoTronone being on the edge of going on a RL killing spreee over the quitting of the most recent pally
16:56.49NeoTronit feels like
16:56.49Gnarfozmore +spelldmg and +healing plate for the other paladins :D
16:57.28NeoTronand all this because they feel they are better and more deservine to be in Karazhan and get loot
16:57.44NeoTronnever mind one of them was a trial, the other one was 50% attendence and he lost lost to ppl with with 100% attendence...
16:58.07NeoTronhad a 3 hour rant on officer chat with the third paladin. it was.. sad and amusing and really annoying
16:59.57Gnarfozdrama ftw
17:01.18NeoTronah and the third pally is a prot pally
17:01.40NeoTronhe's not bad at it but he gets pissed because he can't MT karazhan and he often can't be OT (waste of a spot since he can't DPS or heal worth shit)
17:01.55NeoTronbut he has 9500 HP and 480 defense or something (unbuffed)
17:02.02NeoTronthere's no frickign way he can MT karazhan
17:02.04Gnarfozhe can't or you wont let him MT?
17:02.19Gnarfozhrm, I see
17:02.27NeoTronI won't
17:02.33NeoTronhe'd die really easily
17:02.52NeoTronif he had 2-3k more HP I'd consider it
17:03.06Gnarfozhe's not a warrior, but I don't know what karazhan mobs hit for
17:04.04NeoTronthey can hit a warrior for 7k+
17:04.07NeoTronoften relatively fast
17:04.21NeoTronour 15k warrior died in prince phase 3 from some insane hits
17:04.27NeoTronlike 7-8k hits in quick succession
17:04.40NeoTronhe doesn't use a flask anymore but still
17:05.56NeoTronhe's having problems tanking Skeleton Ushers
17:06.10NeoTronand although they hit hard, they don't hit as hard as an enraged curator for example
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17:07.29CIA-1103ominous * r31986 10ItemEnchantApplication/Core.lua: ItemEnchantApplication: added Superior Mana Oil
17:08.14kenlyric480 defense on a tank would make me cry.
17:08.23kenlyricin fact, it has made me cry.
17:09.33Wiebbelol
17:09.39Wiebbei have 509 defense
17:09.42Wiebbeand 11hp
17:09.46Wiebbe11k hp
17:09.48Wiebbeas a paladin
17:10.27Wiebbei have had no trouble at all tanking in karazhan
17:10.35Wiebbealthough i didnt tank the prince/nightbane
17:11.04Fisker-oooooooooooooh Gagorian
17:11.10chutwigprince is easier than nightbane, in my opinion
17:11.23chutwigplus he hits faster so redoubt will never go down
17:11.37Gnarfoz480 def sounds more like something a well-geared pre-tbc 60 warrior tank would have had
17:11.49Gnarfozredoubt + holy shield = win :D
17:11.50HjalteWiebbe, our tanking paladin, the guild leader, just rerolled warrior. Paladin itemization is crap, he says.
17:12.00chutwigit is crap
17:12.11GnarfozI like leveling my paladin with prot :> (and I got a shaman sidekick who does dps for me ;<)
17:12.16chutwigthey probably ought to raise holy shield's block percentage so that it plus redoubt is equivalent to shield block
17:12.30Gnarfozit is?
17:12.41chutwig30 + 30 != 75
17:12.41Gnarfoz30+35 is more than the 70 shield block gives
17:12.44Gnarfozhm
17:12.45Gnarfozwait :D
17:12.49chutwigmath is fun
17:12.50Gnarfoznumbers :<
17:12.56kenlyricGnarfoz: it doesn't really count as levelling as prot if you have help :)
17:12.59NeoTronWiebbe: see now that is more sane stats
17:13.12NeoTronWiebbe: 9500 HP unbuffed is not sane
17:13.40Gnarfozkenlyric: heh, maybe, but this way I don't have to grind at all - casters are no problem now :D
17:14.27GnarfozI like how male draenei hold fishing poles with just one hand
17:16.37WiebbeHjalte, he is so correct in that
17:16.46Wiebbethe tier 4 set is just plain CRAP for tanking paladins
17:16.52Wiebbewho the frack needs MP/5 when he is tanking
17:17.11Wiebbeand my stats are in complete pre-khara itemz :)
17:17.16Wiebbewell, tier 4 gloves ;p
17:17.17HjalteWiebbe, yeah, spell damage and mp5 isnt going to stop a chrushing blow.
17:17.21Wiebbewell
17:17.24Wiebbei have some spelldamage
17:17.28Wiebbeyou need it :/
17:17.38Wiebbebut i have it all on my weapon
17:17.48WiebbeContinuum blade from Cavern of time with +40 spell damage enchant
17:17.56Wiebbebut you are correct, mitigation wise
17:18.01Wiebbei am worse then a warrior ;p
17:18.13Wiebbebut my AOE tanking is superior.. thats why i am the OT in kara
17:18.17Arrowmastereverybodys worse than a warrior
17:18.17Wiebbei offtank bosses/mobs
17:18.25Wiebbeand i heal at single tank bosses
17:18.29Wiebbeworks like a charm
17:19.10Arrowmasterwe have 2 prot warriors, an arms warrior, and a feral druid
17:19.21deltronone of our paladins just resprecced prot, we did SL with him
17:19.34deltronwith 3 high aggro generating classes and we couldn't tear aggro off of him
17:19.36deltronlike at all
17:19.39Arrowmasterusually take 1 prot and one of the other 2, sometimes take both prot or no prot, depending on whos online
17:19.40Wiebbe:)
17:19.46Wiebbepaladin threat is usually higher then warriors
17:20.35Tornhoofdon't say that too loudly, otherwise you know what happened to the dr00ds
17:20.39Wiebbedeltron, you do need gear though
17:20.40Wiebbehaha
17:20.41Wiebbetrue
17:20.46Wiebbebut our hp is class wise lower
17:20.52Wiebbea paladin in the same gear as a warrior
17:20.56Wiebbehas around 1100/1200 less hp
17:21.02Wiebbejust because the class is different
17:21.13Wiebbecombine htat with the fact we need spelldamage
17:21.18Wiebbeso we have some less mitigation
17:21.22Wiebbeand i sucks bollocks
17:21.25Wiebbe*it
17:21.27Wiebbenot i ;p
17:21.33deltronhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Bulldogg
17:21.36deltronthat's the pally
17:21.41deltronhow's his gear?
17:21.48deltronI have no clue about pally stuff
17:21.59Wiebbelemme check
17:22.02Wiebbeslow ass site ;p
17:22.06deltronyeah
17:23.10Tornhoofhis shield is still heal gear
17:23.18deltronyeah
17:23.25TecnoBrathis cloak ... is .. WTF?
17:23.28Wiebbeseriously
17:23.30Wiebbego SPANK him
17:23.33Wiebbethose gems..
17:23.38Wiebbe12stamina gems in ALL SLOTS
17:23.47Wiebbethose gem bonusses are lame and no use at all
17:23.48deltronhe's been holy
17:23.58Wiebbeyou dont need agi and crit as holy
17:24.00deltronjust respecced prot last night
17:24.05Wiebbenor will you be wearing a fel steel helm ;p
17:24.10TecnoBrattell him to enchant his gear too :P
17:24.23deltronheh
17:24.29Wiebbeheh
17:24.31Tornhoofja, 12stami gems into the legs
17:24.35Tornhoofand the stami enchant
17:24.36Wiebbethat leg enchant is uber
17:24.43Wiebbeindeed
17:24.43Wiebbe30 sta
17:25.00Tornhoofyeh he needs enchants
17:25.04TecnoBrathis HP is way too low
17:25.23deltronthat's like me though
17:25.27deltronI'm still in partial resto gear
17:25.31deltronfrom switching to enh
17:25.42Fisker-why would anything do such a thing?
17:25.55Wiebbehttp://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Tarren+Mill&n=Shinobu
17:25.58Wiebbethats me
17:26.03Wiebbebut forget that helm
17:26.14WiebbeWardrobe2 couldnt find my felsteel helm
17:26.15Wiebbe:P
17:26.34Tornhoofalways remove that ?# in front of character-sheet ;)
17:26.49Wiebbeoh
17:26.54Wiebbehttp://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Tarren+Mill&n=Shinobu
17:26.56Wiebbe:P
17:27.07Wiebbedoh
17:27.12Wiebbehttp://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Tarren+Mill&n=Shinobu
17:27.13Wiebbebdbjfdbnsdf
17:27.17deltronlol
17:27.20Wiebbewell, you know what i mean
17:27.20Wiebbe;p
17:27.56_neuron_you can get +150hp chest for basically nothing, and armor on cloak (or resilience), that's a cheap enchant as well
17:27.57deltrondoes a pally want +dodge stuff?
17:29.03TecnoBrata pally wants lots of dodge, parry, shield block
17:29.08TecnoBratespecially shield block
17:29.10Wiebbepaladins want the same as warriors
17:29.11TecnoBratthey have no rage issues
17:29.15Wiebbeyeh
17:29.18Wiebbei need my trinket
17:29.23TecnoBratso any mitigation without taking dmg is great
17:29.25Wiebbei have 9 +12 stam gems waiting
17:29.39Wiebbeeuh, i need my +5% block libram i mean
17:29.43Wiebbeand the trinket from SH
17:29.51Wiebbeand i am cheap with the enchant ;)
17:30.11deltronhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Diode <-- me
17:30.38Tornhoofgah
17:30.43Tornhoofreplace that offhand
17:30.44Wiebbecool
17:30.50Wiebbestarting enchancement i guess?
17:30.55Wiebbelooking at the trinkets :P
17:31.03Wiebbeor swapping ele?
17:31.04deltronyeah :)
17:31.18deltronTornhoof: lol I have stellaris
17:31.20Fisker-http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrestr&n=Fiskerdin <-the greatest hero of them all
17:31.23TecnoBrathttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&n=Barbanus <= me
17:31.25Wiebbehehe :P
17:31.44Fisker-1 BILLION points to the person who figures out my class without looking at the link
17:31.54Tornhoofthen go use it deltron not that 1.6s offhand crap
17:32.06IndustrialPALADINI WIN
17:32.13deltronTornhoof: lol I was messing around last night
17:32.24Fisker-h4x Industrial
17:32.29WiebbeArmory
17:32.29WiebbeError Encountered
17:32.29WiebbeAn error has occurred.
17:32.34Wiebbefor fiskerdin :>
17:32.40Fisker-:(
17:32.49NeoTronTecnoBrat: Barb anus? sounds painful
17:32.53Fisker-http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin
17:33.12Fisker-I even got +dodge rating on my rejuvenation spells!
17:33.16Wiebbewow TecnoBrat
17:33.29Wiebbethats alot of +healing :>
17:33.43TecnoBrat:)
17:34.03deltronI never could get enough +healing on my shaman
17:34.07deltronthat's why I went enh
17:34.12Fisker-I never find mask of pennace :(
17:34.19chutwigwe get mask of pennance so much on heroic SV
17:34.19deltronI had tons of enh gear
17:34.25Wiebbenice Fisker-, for a "new" paladin :P
17:34.28chutwigshard shard shard
17:34.35NeoTronhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Sasarai
17:34.37NeoTronour main priest
17:34.39NeoTronI like his +heal
17:34.41deltronoh noes wowhead down
17:34.42TecnoBratI need my helm, shoulders, and a shield
17:34.56Fisker-omg lol TecnoBrat
17:34.58SarozAnyone know how Aldor people are suppose to get Recipe: Elixir of Major Firepower
17:35.04Fisker-why don't you get "Golden Spellthread"? :D
17:35.15chutwigargh
17:35.19chutwigi need 4 more primal mights
17:35.24chutwigthere is a single one on the AH, for 120g
17:35.38chutwigthis puts me in a foul mood
17:36.08Wiebbehaha
17:36.08Wiebbe:P
17:36.12deltronTornhoof: i'm planning on farming bloodskull destroyer for my MH
17:36.13Wiebbewell
17:36.22Wiebbebeing an engineer is even more fun
17:36.28Wiebbethe reagents are NOT ingame
17:36.37chutwigi dropped engineering on my paladin a few weeks before i abandoned him completely
17:36.42Tornhoofgo dual wield bloodskull drestroyer
17:36.43Tornhoof:D
17:36.46Wiebbebut if you contact a gm about it: this item can be found ingame!"
17:36.49Tornhooflooks nice :)
17:36.49kergothchronometer needs a timer bar for my earth elemental totem thingy
17:36.56Fisker-why did you get redoubt TecnoBrat?
17:37.11Industrialchronometer needs correct totem timers
17:37.13Funkeh`oh man
17:37.20TecnoBratFisker-, for pvp
17:37.28TecnoBratit screws rogues over
17:37.31Funkeh`that was painful, finally, 3rd time lucky, got emeriss down 6 man
17:37.41Funkeh`we juggled respawns and everything was hardcore lol
17:37.46Fisker-peeeveeepeee?
17:37.52deltronTornhoof: haha, I'm not sure about 2 weaps that are that slow
17:38.00TecnoBratarena to be more exact
17:38.09Tornhoofthat's the whole deal of dual wield shamans
17:38.15Wiebbefiskerdin, you are most likely a rich mofo
17:38.19Tornhoofget as slow as it gets
17:38.20deltronslow weaps?
17:38.22deltronhmm
17:38.22Wiebbetailoring and enchanting :P
17:38.23Tornhoofyeh
17:38.28deltronok
17:38.29Tornhoofthink about stormstrike
17:38.31deltronyeah
17:38.36deltronmakes sense with SS
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17:38.43deltronI'm a noob enh shaman :P
17:39.03chutwigslow with dual wield shamans sucks if you get shammervate
17:39.08Tornhoofno
17:39.12Tornhoofshammervate is pppm
17:39.12deltronshammervate?
17:39.15Tornhoofppm
17:39.16deltronoh
17:39.17deltronheh
17:39.17chutwigshamanistic rage
17:39.18Tornhoofshamanistic rage
17:39.36deltroni thought it regenned no matter what
17:39.42Tornhoofnah
17:39.44chutwigit's melee hit
17:39.49chutwigit's awful with slow 2h weapons
17:39.54chutwigyou really need to be dw for it to be at all useful
17:39.56deltronoh macro swap 2 fast weaps
17:39.59Tornhoofno
17:40.04Tornhoofit's ppm
17:40.10Tornhoofyou don't need two fast weapons
17:40.12deltronppm?
17:40.18Tornhoofjyou just need two weapons ;)
17:40.24chutwigokay
17:40.25Tornhoofproc per minute
17:40.28Wiebbeprocs per monite
17:40.28deltronoh
17:40.29Tornhoofit's like 8 ppm
17:40.31chutwig4 primal fires, 4 primal waters, 3 primal airs
17:40.33Tornhooffor each weapon
17:40.41chutwigsuicide time
17:40.54deltronI need to go farm the enchanting recipe for +20 str
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17:40.59deltronthat would be so awesome
17:41.11deltronthe other mace I want drops off of illhoof
17:41.14Fisker-wheeeeeeeeeeeeeereee deltron?
17:41.21kergothslow weaps are nice given the wf cooldown too, arent they?  given the 3 sec cooldown, any hits between that would be wasted, not wf candidates
17:41.22Tornhoofbasically as for now, two slow weapons are the best you can do ;)
17:41.33chutwighas the windfury rank nerf gone through yet?
17:41.44Tornhoofnot yet
17:41.48deltronnext patch IIRC
17:42.05deltronI was experimenting with different weapon buffs last night
17:42.08chutwigblizzard really does confuse me immensely
17:42.18chutwigi freely admit that as an affliction warlock i am pretty overpowered
17:42.23chutwigyet somehow i continue to escape the nerfbat
17:42.27deltronthat's why I had the stormreaver equipped
17:42.43deltronchutwig: afflic is very overpowered, but I love it
17:42.47Fisker-chutwig it's intended for warlocks to be able to solo 1 billion mobs at a time
17:42.48chutwigmeanwhile they blab on about how ret paladin dps is too high, enh shaman dps is too high, etc etc
17:42.54deltronI ran a 5 man with a pally tank for the first time last night
17:43.03Wiebbe....
17:43.07deltronwith an afflic lock, and 2 enh shaman
17:43.08Wiebbewarlocks are so imba
17:43.11Wiebbeits insane
17:43.16deltronwe couldn't tear aggro off of the tank at all
17:43.21chutwigi lose to rogues, and 3-minute mages
17:43.23Wiebbedid you get BOS?
17:43.27Wiebbe*BoS or BoK?
17:43.28chutwigand warriors if they blow a 30-minute
17:43.39deltronwe tried both
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17:43.52deltronI prefer BoM over BoK for most stuff
17:44.03deltronhe tossed salv on all of us and that was good
17:44.09Wiebbeyeh thought so :P
17:44.10chutwigi live by salv
17:44.11deltronhe just generated so much threat it was insane
17:44.13chutwigneeeeeeeeed salv
17:44.21Wiebbei cant keep up with locks
17:44.24Wiebbeif they dont have salv
17:44.32Wiebbein kara the locks easily reach 800/900 TPS
17:44.39chutwigthat's me, baby
17:44.40deltronyeah
17:44.50Wiebbei hit around 600/700 TPS
17:44.51deltronI'm only like 500 max :(
17:44.55chutwigfortunately our MT generates a lot of hate and misdirection just adds to it
17:45.01Wiebbehehe :P
17:45.04Wiebbemisdirection is nice
17:45.14chutwigdrain life generates a lot of hate because you're doing damage and then generating additional hate from the healing
17:45.23chutwigmy DL alone is about 540 TPS
17:45.24NeoTronI went 0/40/21 spec again
17:45.25chutwignot counting the dots
17:45.29NeoTronso did prince with the imp out
17:45.39Wiebbeimba locks ^^
17:45.41NeoTronno matter how much I nuked I couldnt' go past like 50% of the top threat generator
17:46.15NeoTronalthoguh I wasn't top DPS (3rd, but the top4 weere with in a percent of eachother)
17:46.25NeoTronbecause I was the one to pay attention to the infernals
17:46.33Wiebbeheh
17:46.41Wiebbei expect everyone to to that themselves
17:46.45Wiebbeif you die by a infernal
17:46.47Wiebbeyou are a noob! :P
17:46.52NeoTronif I'd expect that we'd die
17:47.01NeoTronyes some people need hand holding
17:47.05NeoTronbut mind you, it was our second kill
17:47.06Wiebbeyes
17:47.09Wiebbesad but true :P
17:47.09NeoTronand a bunch of new people there
17:47.15NeoTronso it's forgivable
17:47.37NeoTronpeople still need a raid icon to follow to avoid the blizzard on aran though
17:47.47NeoTronand that i don't understand. not exactly hard
17:47.50Wiebbeyes seriously
17:47.58Wiebbehe sucks for "single minded" players :P
17:48.03Wiebbei am shouting on teamspeak
17:48.05chutwigaran is still kind of buggy
17:48.05WiebbeSTOP MOVING NOW
17:48.13NeoTron... and people still mvoe. boom
17:48.14chutwighe did a flame wreath on us at 3% and didn't dispel the blizzard
17:48.16chutwigthat ended predictably
17:48.29Wiebbeyou cant have both?
17:48.30NeoTronah we had a sweet 3% wipe on the prince
17:48.43chutwigno, blizzard is normally dispelled before flame wreath
17:48.47NeoTronMT died (we only had 2 healers from 50% and down)
17:48.56chutwigwitchhunt shows a dispel blizzard aura go out whenever flame wreath comes up
17:48.57Wiebbewe had an awesome phase2 on shade, first he summons the elementals
17:48.57NeoTronchutwig: err. never noticed that
17:48.57chutwigbut not that time
17:49.09Wiebbeat that time he poly's
17:49.12NeoTronchutwig: meaning we often have flamewreath and blizzard
17:49.12chutwigNeoTron: promise i'm not lying
17:49.23Wiebbeafter the poly he starts an Super arcane explosion immidiatly
17:49.24Wiebbe-_-
17:49.27NeoTronif he's supposed to do that, he sure doesn't do it for us
17:49.28Wiebbeand then a blzzard went off
17:49.30chutwigoh and if somebody is immune before flame wreath and the immunity ends after flame wreath begins
17:49.33chutwigkaboom
17:49.35chutwig...still
17:49.42WiebbeNeoTron, same here
17:49.44NeoTronthey had fixed that particlar problem
17:49.48NeoTronbut.. they broke it again
17:49.48Wiebbewe have them at the same time often at well
17:50.07Wiebbewell not that often
17:50.09Wiebbebut still
17:50.09deltronTornhoof: which tornhoof is your shaman?
17:50.23NeoTronmeaning the use of cloak of shadows/shield worked.. and now it supposedly doens't
17:50.58Wiebbehuh
17:51.03Wiebbei know it didnt work before
17:51.20Stephmwcoding question... what's the most efficient way of storing a large number of words? (as in a dictionary)...
17:51.21Wiebbeour rogue always blew us up
17:51.23chutwigblizzard does have a most remarkable capacity for breaking things that weren't broken before
17:51.48Wiebbechutwig, thats so true
17:52.00Wiebbebut, with like a gazillion lines of code
17:52.10Wiebbeits not hard to screw up
17:53.32WiebbeStephmw, how many options are there?
17:54.17StephmwWiebbe: 300k+ words, 2-15 letters each, ASCII only (at least for now)
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17:54.30Tornhoofthe die silberne hand one deltron
17:54.31Wiebbe300.000??
17:54.40Tornhoofthe first one, the other one is a clone ;)
17:54.51deltronelemental?
17:54.57Tornhoofno
17:54.58StephmwWiebbe: it's a dictionary :)
17:55.00Tornhoofdeep resto
17:55.02deltronoh the resto with naxx?
17:55.03deltronyeah
17:55.08Tornhoofsemi retired anyway
17:55.11deltrondude helm of ts!??? :P
17:55.22WiebbeStephmw,i would try to talk to Kaelten or something
17:55.25deltronyeah that sucks :(
17:55.28Wiebbeif he is ever here
17:55.40Tornhoofi have 4 day played on lvl 70 ;)
17:56.01deltronTornhoof: you playing another toon or just going real casual?
17:56.10Tornhoofreal casual ;)
17:56.16deltronheh
17:56.26Tornhoofi don't like karazhan
17:56.32deltronneither do I
17:56.35deltronI hate it in fact
17:56.44deltronkara is not made for resto shaman
17:57.23Tornhoofif i play my shaman i usually reskill enh
17:57.36deltronenh is so fun
17:59.03TornhoofI'm trying to get ele gear though
17:59.03deltronyeah ele is fairly hard to find
17:59.04deltronI have about 530 +dmg, but low +crit
17:59.19Tornhoofmy gear is bad too, like 500 spelldmg and around 15+crit from gear
17:59.49deltronshaman are too gear dependent
18:00.05Tornhoofyeh
18:00.14NeoTronI got tired of amy shaman at 60 because I didn't like totem management
18:00.18NeoTrongot too annoying a
18:00.20NeoTronI thought
18:00.28deltronI think it's the worst out of all classes
18:00.30NeoTronmight have levelled him now if he wasn't on a pvp server though
18:00.35NeoTronoutlands on pvv => no fun to me
18:00.51deltronoutlands would suck I'm sure
18:01.26NeoTronI'm not much for pvp in general but overall deaths were usually not too common. in outlands I can die 4 times in 15 minutes
18:01.30NeoTronand then I get tired and log
18:01.42NeoTronalmost made it to 61 .. plus my gear sucks so I can't kill shit either
18:02.10Tornhoofi had optimal pre bc enh gear and leveled to 70 fairly fast
18:02.27NeoTronI started with craptimal pre-bc gear
18:02.28chutwigmy shaman had crap gear
18:02.34NeoTronand find myself dying a lot from pve too
18:02.35chutwiggot to 61, then just deleted him
18:02.54chutwigjust wasn't worth the frustration
18:02.55NeoTronon some level I'm considering respeccnig to elemental
18:03.02NeoTronproblem is, I died two times trying to get to shattrah
18:03.10NeoTronand then I got tired and logged, and haven't been back since
18:03.28Gngskif only players would attack stoneclaw totems like mobs do
18:03.38NeoTronhaha
18:03.39deltronI leveled to 64 deep resto
18:03.52deltronthen said screw it and went elemental with all the sweet elemental gear they had
18:03.53NeoTronmind you my main is a warlock
18:04.02NeoTronpalying a shaman was quite a downgrade in effectivity
18:04.13NeoTronespecially since my weapon skills weren't very high to begin with
18:04.27NeoTrondeltron: that's just painful
18:04.28Tornhoofyou'll need to love playing shaman
18:04.31Tornhoofotherwise it's boring
18:04.35NeoTronI like a lot of it
18:04.39NeoTronjust .. die too much
18:04.41Tornhoofsince your hybrid theory aien't working in endgame anyway
18:04.42deltronI've always tried to keep my weapon skills high
18:04.45NeoTronas I said, on pve it might be difference
18:04.56deltroni'm on a pve server
18:05.01NeoTrondeltron: well I levelled to 60 and then basically stopped there
18:05.06NeoTronit never was my main character
18:05.35NeoTronI'm enjoying being a nuker now
18:05.39NeoTronmost of the time
18:05.49NeoTrononly frustrating thing is when you have to take crappy healers in the raid
18:05.57NeoTronand wipe because of it (having been a raiding healer for over a  year)
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18:06.18deltronelemental is awesome
18:06.33deltronblizz gave a huge buff to elemental
18:06.37deltronwith the clearcasting change
18:06.53Tornhoofthe buff is mad
18:06.54Tornhooftbh
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18:08.34Adysis there a way to get the afk "message" of someone, without whispering him?
18:08.53deltronadd them to your friends
18:09.03Adysnot the tag, the message that comes with it
18:09.12Adys./afk "message"
18:09.20AdysIm not clear am i :P
18:09.56deltronoh
18:10.00deltronI see
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18:11.03Oridanwehay!
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18:13.13HealthThere isn't a raid module in PitBull you can delete? Just raid target?
18:14.06kergothwhats the name of that addon that helps for positioning frames? lining them up and all?
18:14.18Heriophlayout?
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18:18.34Adyshttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=272947462&sid=1 just.. awesome
18:18.35CIA-1103evilelvis * r31988 10eePanels/eePanels.toc: eePanels: touch
18:19.28deltrongod I love the european forums
18:19.35NeoTronAdys: Ni hao!
18:19.37Heriowow lol
18:19.53NeoTronI hate it when my aggound gets hagged
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18:20.30CIA-1103evilelvis * r31989 10eeShards/credits.txt: eeShards - touch
18:20.32deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=39204260&sid=1&pageNo=1 <-- my favorite wow forums thread though
18:20.49Adyshttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=269487262&sid=1 thats mine =P
18:23.07AdysLOL Deltron
18:23.17Fisker-i just made a 20slot bag :o
18:23.17AdysHow i love some of these blues
18:23.19Industriallol pwn. http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/
18:23.21Fisker-wtf am i doing?
18:25.46Fisker-roar
18:25.50Fisker-it
18:25.54Fisker-it's ah'ing time
18:26.13deltronI need to farm heroics all weekend
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18:28.28NeoTronAdys: lol
18:28.42NeoTroneuropean forums seem a bit more fun..
18:28.46deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=93169621&sid=1 <-- omg...I don't even know what to say
18:29.02Adyseeeh
18:29.16AdysNeoTron depends, its quite rare tbh
18:29.42Adysbut i gotta say the customer support is better in europe than US
18:29.49Adysforum one, i mean
18:29.55Adysfor the rest... ugh
18:30.23KarlThePagandeltron, "elemental shamans raid?" is my first thought
18:30.39KarlThePaganother than that it's pure pve vs pvp decision
18:31.04KarlThePaganspell penetration helps overcome mark of the wild so they don't resist your earthshocks
18:31.30KarlThePagansubtlety keeps your enh shaman from eating a fist full of curator smackdown
18:31.45Herioeh
18:31.52KarlThePaganthen again... we have an enhancement shaman tank the curator adds
18:31.56HerioI've never had problems with curator agro o.o
18:31.58KarlThePaganso subtlety is kinda garbage
18:32.08Heriothey both are
18:32.13deltronyeah
18:32.18Heriomainly cause penetration is overrated
18:32.20deltronI don't have trouble with curator
18:32.20Herio:O
18:32.27deltronlast curator I was elemental
18:32.30deltronthat was fun
18:32.37deltroni was all pew pew on the adds
18:32.39KarlThePaganyea i'd say penetration because there's nothing else to put on a cloak (resists?)
18:33.02Heriodeep penetration imo
18:33.07KarlThePaganhot
18:33.25Heriosrsly
18:33.52kenlyricit's not "worthless"... it's just not all that useful.
18:33.57kenlyricstill better than nothing.
18:34.05deltronI need more enchanting formulas
18:34.08KarlThePagani probably would have an elemental shaman dps raid before a smite priest or moonkin
18:34.25deltronelemental is awesome
18:34.26Herio*not at all useful
18:34.31kenlyricsmite priest as dps.
18:34.35KarlThePagantho moonkin isn't bad... it just goes oom too fast compared to others
18:34.36kenlyricthat's makes me giggle inside.
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18:34.57KarlThePaganit was pretty awesome for about 2 months between 1.12 and 2.0
18:35.06deltronelemental shaman have a huge aggro issue though
18:35.11deltronlike all shaman
18:35.28Herioreally?
18:35.35KarlThePagando they need to learn 2 dps?
18:35.56deltronyeah, when you're tossing 2.5k lightning bolts with no aggro reduction abilities
18:36.01deltronit hurts heh
18:36.17kergoth<3 lightning overload
18:36.19deltronit's a lot of snap aggro
18:36.19KarlThePaganbut you do have threat reduction abilities
18:36.21Fisker-how is pt3bar?
18:36.28Fisker-Still needs to be configured through config.lua?
18:36.30KarlThePagan3/3 elemental precision
18:36.34deltronKarlThePagan: totem isn't good
18:36.46KarlThePaganwhy wouldn't you get that since it gives you +hit as well?
18:36.55kergothFisker-: yea, still needs to be configured via the text file, but it has popout buttons now :D
18:36.57KarlThePagantotem is meh
18:37.05kergothFisker-: someone just needs to write a pt3browser like pt3bar configurator addon
18:37.06KarlThePaganbut ... yea 12% threat reduction is more than warlocks get
18:37.12KarlThePaganand moonkin get zero
18:37.31KarlThePaganshadow priests have less than 12% if they have VE and VT up
18:37.59deltronKarlThePagan: I'm talking about tranquil air heh
18:37.59KarlThePaganonly mages and smite priests (lol) have more talent threat reduction (of casters)
18:38.10KarlThePagandeltron, so what about elemental precision
18:38.54deltronis that the +hit skill?
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18:39.00KarlThePagan+hit and -threat
18:39.12KarlThePaganbut true... you don't have a soul shatter or invisibility
18:39.14Fisker-popout = more items in one rack? i.e. different foods/waters?
18:39.26KarlThePaganbut neither did warlocks & mages before TBC
18:39.31deltronmy fade/vanish = die and ankh up :)
18:39.41KarlThePagansame with a priest / moonkin
18:40.01KarlThePaganfetish of the sand reaver, hypnotic stopwatch, grace of earth - get more trinkets
18:40.20KarlThePagantimelapse shard
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18:40.20KarlThePaganthere's one from SLab too
18:40.20kergothFisker-: yup, mosue over and other items in that set pop out
18:40.23kergothFisker-: like autobar
18:40.36deltronwell when i was elemental in kara, we didn't have a pally at 70 yet for salv
18:40.50deltronI'm enh now anyways :P
18:41.06KarlThePaganhmm well GBoS and Tranquil air are like... 30% vs 20% threat reduction
18:41.20deltronnah it doesn't stack that much
18:41.29kergothi was resto for quite a while, then went elem, and am now enh, and i'm sticking with enh
18:41.30kergothheh
18:41.39KarlThePaganthey don't stack but that means that BoS is only giving you 10% more threat reduction
18:41.54KarlThePaganenh is stupid awesome dps for kara
18:42.05deltronyeah I freaking love being enh
18:42.08robotuschAm I missing an option somewhere, or is it not possible to remove icons from Eavesdrop - or at least scale them down?
18:42.14deltronthis is my first time being enh for a loooooooong time
18:42.21deltronI was resto for like a year and a half
18:42.56kergothsame, i havent been enh since first leveling to 60
18:43.01KarlThePaganshadow, PI disc, smite, shadow, holy ;)
18:43.12KarlThePaganmight return to smite some day
18:43.45deltronI remember the old days when respeccing would make you lose your 2h weapon skill points
18:43.49deltrongod I hated that
18:43.53kergothdeltron: ugh, that sucked ass
18:43.56deltronpt3bar?
18:43.57kergothhad to relevel that like 3 times
18:44.13deltronkergoth: like a dozen times for me, I'm a respec machine :P
18:44.16kergothpt3bar is nymbia's autobar like thingy, purely pt3 based, have to configfure whats in the buttons via a lua file
18:44.21Fisker-gah
18:44.23kergothno fancy config app, just basic
18:44.24Fisker-getting tons of errors with it
18:44.29deltronhmm
18:44.33kergothnot getting any errors here
18:44.37deltronpt3?
18:44.43kergothperiodictable
18:44.46deltronahh
18:45.14deltronkergoth: there's like no rogues in sanc now :/
18:45.18kergoth:(
18:45.33deltrona lot of the good players are giving up the game
18:45.36deltronit sucks
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18:46.14kergothi miss the 1 copper beta respec cost
18:46.20deltronthat was so awesome
18:47.00KarlThePaganwe just had a really good healing paladin go back to ret
18:47.03deltronwtb wowhead back online :P
18:47.13KarlThePaganand a few quit
18:47.17deltronlol
18:47.22kergothdeltron: agreed, i'm using.. *gasp*.. thottbot atm
18:47.25kergothit makes me feel dirty
18:47.37deltronI'm surprised nobody put up a huge fuss about me going resto
18:47.46deltronbut I think they all know that resto shaman suck in kara :P
18:47.55Fisker-kergoth got a nice config btw?
18:47.58Stephmwkergoth: surely thott is the best thing around?
18:48.12Fisker-don't wanna get pt3browser to setup something good :(
18:48.19deltronI can't even bring myself to use alla :P
18:48.23kergothFisker-: not yet, still working on it.. didnt start using it really until nymbia added the popout stuff
18:48.31KarlThePagani want...
18:48.34KarlThePaganwowhead's interface
18:48.48deltronI use the wowhead client
18:48.57deltronmore people need to use it
18:49.03Fisker-btw why did i just make a 20slot bag? :I
18:49.12deltronFisker-: to get to 375?
18:49.13kergothwhy not?
18:49.16KarlThePaganwith thottbot's end-to-end linking (yes item activation linked to spell descriptions linked to all other spells/activations with that effect)
18:49.28KarlThePaganwith alla's search ranking system
18:49.36Fisker-well atleast primal mooncloth is down to like 45g each now :P
18:49.42kergothi need to get my lw to 375.  gonna need like 500 more knothide leather though :|
18:50.01deltronsearch ranking?
18:50.06deltronI refuse to use alla
18:50.10deltronI can't despise it
18:50.28deltronI should somehow hack the wowitem mod for smf to use wowhead :P
18:51.23Fisker-smf?
18:51.44[dRaCo]simple machines forum
18:51.48Fisker-ah
18:51.53Fisker-Itemstats right?
18:52.01deltronhttp://www.thottbot.com/i27846 <-- will be my MH
18:52.04deltronhttp://www.thottbot.com/i28210 <-- OH
18:52.06deltronyeah
18:52.18Fisker-i tried doing that too
18:52.25Fisker-didn't work that well though :(
18:52.40Fisker-I got it to work by just altering the link to wowhead
18:52.47Fisker-but still piggybagging their database :P
18:52.50Fisker-and icons :D
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18:55.04Fisker-btw TecnoBrat
18:56.27CyrezIs there any mobs that DON'T have their Runecloth drops nerfed? ><
18:58.04Fisker-awesome
18:58.09Fisker-NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
18:58.10[dRaCo]the stupid ogres in nagrand drop alot
18:58.12deltronhttp://www.thottbot.com/?i=Bloodboil%20Poison <-- whoa
18:58.12Fisker-i didnø't
18:58.19Fisker-fucking idiot
18:58.37Fisker-Just set wau to update addons after i had removed a lot from my folder
18:58.54Fisker-now i have to do it again :/
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18:59.13deltronI need to rebuild my box
19:00.44deltronlooks like they're nerfing romulo & julianne fight
19:01.20[dRaCo]once again?
19:02.14Fisker-anyone know how to get lua working for windows? :P
19:02.37robotusch;D Fusker
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19:10.40Scr3emis there an ace addon for the quest log? i'd like to split the window into two parts with the list on the left and the description on the right
19:11.02Arrowmasteri think questsfu might do that
19:11.42JoshBorkeScr3em: there's a mod called DoubleWide you should check out
19:11.48Scr3emis it ace?
19:11.55stavmarScr3em: try double wide on teh wowinterface forums
19:12.00Scr3emok
19:12.08JoshBorkeScr3em: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6887-DoubleWide.html
19:12.32JoshBorkeScr3em: no, it's not ace.  and if you restrict yourself to only ace you cut out a lot of really good mods and only do yourself harm
19:12.47Scr3emoh i don't
19:12.55Scr3embut i try to use ace as much as i can
19:13.08Scr3emi was using extended quest log, but it's very buggy
19:13.19Arrowmasterdoublewide is extreamly small and wouldnt actually get anything from being ace
19:13.20JoshBorkeyour first question should be:  is it written well.  not is it ace, because there are ace mods that aren't written well
19:13.23Scr3emthe nice thing about Ace is the auto updater
19:13.31JoshBorkeof course
19:13.41JoshBorkethat's what EVERYONE says :-/
19:13.52Scr3emtrue, i guess i assumed ace == good :)
19:13.53Arrowmasteryeah we've created a monstor
19:14.06Scr3emno!! you've saved us all!
19:14.15chutwigit's aliiiiiiiiiiive
19:14.30Arrowmasterfirst people were like 'is it ace?' because they thought ace ment better preformance, now they go 'is it ace?' because of the updater
19:14.44Scr3emhehe
19:15.01Scr3emdoes ace mean better performance?
19:15.04Stephmwthere's an updater?
19:15.13chutwigi do like staying ace if i can, but i have some non-ace mods
19:15.15Fisker-haha
19:15.33Fisker-me and another paladin just stood next to eachother and healed eachother for like 3 minutes
19:15.38Fisker-imba pala heals
19:15.46chutwigsounds fun
19:16.00kenlyricarrowmaster, If WUU ever becomes user-friendly, people won't even be able to make that claim.
19:16.12JoshBorkewell then wuu needs to hurry up
19:16.23Scr3emwhat is wuu?
19:16.39Fisker-wow universal updater i think it is
19:16.44djsparkit's poor man's wii
19:16.45djspark:-D
19:17.09kenlyricupdates from multiple sites, but is sorta strange in how you use it.
19:17.42Industriali likde deciding wether i want an update before updating
19:18.00Industrialbecause newer isnt always better
19:18.07Industriallook at winamp 2 -> 5 for example
19:18.08Industrial:P
19:18.22Arrowmasteri think you mean winamp 2 -> 3
19:18.32Arrowmaster5 was good
19:18.32Industrialno, 5 sucks ass.
19:18.47djsparkWUU = Wow UI Updater   btw
19:18.59Tornhoofwasn't 5 the backport of 3 features to 2 codebasis?
19:19.02Arrowmasterwell 5 was good at first, then i moved to foobar2000
19:19.14Scr3emhow can you tell if an addon is decreasing game performance (significantly)?
19:19.20Scr3em<--noob
19:19.27Arrowmasteryou wait for 2.1.0
19:19.32djsparkwa5 was the sad sad conclusion of wa3 developers being ousted and money being cut from wa3
19:20.12Arrowmasterwinamp went downhill from the day aol bougth nullsoft
19:20.29IndustrialArrowmaster: agreed
19:20.29djsparkyup
19:20.52djsparkand when justin started drinkin more then codingv
19:21.36Arrowmasteri still found it ammusing that he kept writing stuff and releasing it while working for aol that aol kept pulling because they didnt like it
19:21.39Arrowmasterlike waste
19:22.40djsparkI like how the top 10 list of addons on the WUU website are almost all ace addons
19:23.02Scr3emwuu website?
19:23.05Scr3emlink?
19:23.16djsparkhttp://wuu.vagabonds.info/
19:23.21Scr3emty
19:23.25djsparknp
19:23.48Fisker-btw lol
19:23.59Fisker-There's one mob sofar that was neither paladin or warrior
19:24.13Fisker-atleast what i've seen
19:24.32[dRaCo]mobs with mana are paladins, mobs without are warriors
19:24.52Fisker-just saw one that wasn't paladin
19:28.22ckknightdjspark: I like how they're mostly mine as well
19:29.05deltronman wowhead is still down :(
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19:29.16kenlyricat least they finally took it down.
19:29.23kenlyricit's been fubar all day long.
19:29.41deltronis WUU a goon project?
19:31.10Industrialgoon?
19:31.10Scr3emoh man, DoubleWide ftw
19:31.15Scr3emvery nice
19:31.20deltronIndustrial: somethingawful.com goon heh
19:31.44CIA-1103joshborke * r31990 10Combine/ (Combine.lua Combine.xml):
19:31.44CIA-11Combine -
19:31.44CIA-11- removed save/close button
19:31.44CIA-11- added CreateEvent function that doesn't do anything atm
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19:34.27djsparkckknight: yeah, gives you a warm fuzzy fealing doesn't it :-D    
19:35.02djsparkckknight: if I submitted you a patch for fubar to add a delay to tooltips would u accept it?
19:35.28ckknightonly if it provides an option to disable
19:36.20NeoTroncan't wait for WoWTOP
19:36.22NickenyfikenMake it off default
19:36.25NeoTronwhee. /top
19:36.33djsparkckknight: ok, how about in the fubar config an area that would allow you to enable it and select a time duration for delay
19:36.42ckknightyea
19:36.50ckknightthat's what I meant
19:37.26kenlyricdjspark: add an option that turns on a delay during combat :)
19:37.28Fisker-wowtop NeoTron?
19:38.04djsparkkenlyric: well right now it has the option to stop them during combat, but yeah a delay could be nice
19:38.31djsparkwell I got my two ace patch projects set then, first get the delay setup for fubar, then bar edge snapping for bartender3
19:38.32Fisker-lawl
19:38.42Fisker-i just pulled a CC mob with manatap
19:38.55Fisker-and another guy took aggro from me and i killed it and he lost rep
19:38.55Fisker-:D
19:38.58deltronlol noob
19:39.01Fisker-pwnt
19:39.27CIA-1103chuckg * r31991 10SpellWatch/SpellWatch.lua:
19:39.27CIA-11SpellWatch:
19:39.27CIA-11- Timers on player-characters will not persist through death since their names are unique.
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19:44.56CIA-1103chuckg * r31992 10SpellWatch/ (Menu.lua Menu.xml):
19:44.56CIA-11SpellWatch:
19:44.56CIA-11- Added a "copy" function to the menu. (Polleke)
19:46.02deltronyay
19:46.27deltronthey finally added my acct to the beta for the new altiris svs client :P
19:48.53djsparkwow, cpu & memory profiling
19:49.06deltroneh
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19:53.36NeoTronFisker-: top for wow. i.e top memory and cpu using addons
19:53.36NeoTronin a nice table format updated every X seconds :P
19:53.36NeoTronassuming you can do that in 2.1.0
19:54.00Gagorianfiiiiiiiiskeeeeer
19:54.03GagorianYou called?
19:55.23Fisker-yeah
19:55.47Fisker-Is there anyway to make drdamage show only the average of spellhits and totally ignore spellcrits?
19:56.32Gagorianon actionbar?
19:56.33Gagorianyes
19:57.24Fisker-how!?
19:57.38GagorianYou expect me to remember the super complex commands?!
19:57.49Fisker-yup?
19:57.54Gagorian(/drdamage actionbar trueavg)
19:58.12Fisker-why is this not mentioned anywhere?!
19:58.32GagorianIt probably is mentioned -somewhere-
19:58.42Gagorian:P
20:00.59Fisker-can't you do it without actually removing it?
20:01.37Fisker-just want something like trueavg for displaytypwe
20:02.44Gagorianit's the same thing
20:02.46robotusch:o
20:02.53GagorianJust made kind of silly
20:03.00Fisker-then unsilly it
20:03.14Gagorianthen people need to reconfigure :c
20:03.23robotusch:/
20:03.29GagorianBut it's the same thing, in effect
20:03.34Fisker-then code a converter too
20:04.13Gagorianbut there's no difference! :D
20:04.54Fisker-lalalala
20:04.57Fisker-can't hear you
20:05.21Scr3emcan anyone recommend a good rogou combo point tracker? other than gnoffbar
20:05.48ZealotOnAStickcombo point or energy?
20:05.57Scr3emboth
20:06.17ZealotOnAStickkEnergy for energy ticks.  Not sure on combo points, I use the combo points on IceHUD
20:06.21Scr3emthe gnoff ticking thing is going to send me the hospital
20:07.26Scr3emty
20:07.51winkillerx-perl also has one built in
20:07.58winkillerif you use that anyway
20:08.20deltronace does
20:08.24deltronerr ag_uf
20:08.33Scr3emi don't use those, but ty
20:08.44deltronwhy not?
20:09.04Scr3emi use healbot and gypsy mod
20:09.18Scr3emi like the small list view
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20:15.33kergothi put the combo points as text on the kenergy bar myself, but i can see why you'd want blips instead of text
20:15.36kergothicehud works well
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20:24.17Scr3emty
20:24.59stavmardoes anyone know where I can download the myraid condensed font so i can use it with ClearFont?
20:25.09deltrongoogle?
20:26.33stavmarlol you have to pay to download it, man that is a tough decision...
20:26.56CIA-1103Tristan * r31993 10GirlFriend/ (. GirlFriend.lua GirlFriend.toc):
20:26.56CIA-11GirlFriend: initial Commit
20:26.57CIA-11- Don't want to miss certain whispers, or maybe entire /o? My girl friend got a bit upset with me ignoring her unintentionally when tanking etc so this AddOn came to life.
20:27.17ckknightlol.
20:27.26Ominousrofl
20:27.27kergothhahah
20:27.41deltronlol
20:27.57TecnoBratLOL
20:28.00deltronbest description ever
20:28.03Nickenyfikenrofl
20:28.16NightHawkTheSanelol
20:28.25[dRaCo]you win internetz.
20:28.53hyperChipmunkomg
20:29.04hyperChipmunkmy gf is the same way
20:29.16Ominoushow can you make it so when you do svn log it exports the output to a file/opens in notepad instead of printing in cmd
20:29.42CIA-1103Tristan * r31994 10GirlFriend/:
20:29.42CIA-11GirlFriend:
20:29.42CIA-11- externals set
20:30.02hyperChipmunk|notepad?
20:30.09hyperChipmunk>foo.txt
20:31.05Ominouswhat do u mean>
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20:31.48hyperChipmunksvn log addon|notepad
20:31.53Ominousah
20:32.00hyperChipmunkdoes that work in windows?
20:32.18[dRaCo]nope
20:32.20hyperChipmunkor to a file, svn log addon > file.txt
20:32.30[dRaCo]there's no pipe tool in windows
20:32.30hyperChipmunkoh, n/m then
20:32.46[dRaCo]svn log addon > file.txt should work, though
20:32.50Ominousyea
20:32.51Ominous:0
20:32.57Ominous:)*
20:34.25kergothckknight: i just left a group that had a hunter in it, and i still see a unitframe for his pet..
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20:34.43ckknighthrm
20:34.47kergothhehe
20:34.52kergothoh, there it went
20:34.54kergoththats odd
20:34.56kergothgone now
20:35.04ckknightI'll look into it
20:36.09Ominousgod dammit, forgot wow discs,
20:36.20Ominousso now wow for another weekend, damn unstable laptop
20:40.11deltrondownload it from blizz
20:40.27kergothckknight: nm, the wolf is back, i take it he just had the pet unsummoned or something :P
20:40.35Ominousna my grandpa is on pay as you go broadband
20:41.01Ominousand only 515kbs
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20:44.14kergothckknight: thats odd, i did a reloadui and still saw his damn wolf
20:44.15kergothlol
20:44.28ckknight...weird
20:44.31Scr3emhow is ag unit frames with frame rates/performance?
20:44.31RoartindonA couple of questions if anyone knows :) Is there an ace-way to convert { r, g, b } to |c######## form?
20:44.56RoartindonAnd how do you destroy a frame after you've created it?
20:45.24RoartindonFirst one I can easily writ emy own method for; but checking that one already doesn't exist in the core somewhere.
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20:45.39Chosimoo
20:45.42Chosishort and clear
20:45.58Chosidamagemeters/swstats as ace2 addon equals what?
20:46.05ckknightI know how, Roartindon
20:46.13ckknightis r, g, b in [0, 1] form?
20:46.19Roartindonckknight: yes
20:46.23HjalteChosi, Violation once it is done.
20:46.33Chosistill wip?
20:46.37ckknight("|cff%02x%02%02x"):format(r*255, g*255, b*255)
20:46.45HjalteChosi, you can try it out.
20:46.51Chosialready noticed it. dies it work at all?
20:46.55Chosi*does
20:47.04Roartindonckknight: lol.. okay, yeah, I'll do that then
20:49.45Roartindonhow about destroying frames?
20:49.57ckknightcan't destroy
20:50.03ckknightbut you can recycle frames
20:50.06ckknightPitBull does that
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20:53.03Fisker-I got -50KiB/s in combat is that good?
20:53.41ckknightnegative 50?
20:53.46ckknightif so, that means you're GCing
20:53.58ckknightwell, it really only batters if you can feel your FPS suffering
20:54.31Chompersck, hows does versionchecker work?
20:54.39ckknightbig brotherisms
20:54.52HjalteChosi, yeah it does work, but I'm not sure how much it cooperates with other dm-meters atm. I don't think it parses the combatlog.
20:54.57Chompersreally good idea for an addon, just interested in its guts
20:55.14Fisker-of course it does ckknight i was making a joke QQ :(
20:55.33ChosiHjalte: ah well so the syncing aspect is a bit blurry
20:55.52ckknightChompers: basically, AceComm has some hidden stuff in it to send version info
20:56.12ckknightVersionChecker (and SpyGnome I believe) uses that to send the version-ping message to people
20:56.30ckknightif they have AceComm, then a version-pong message gets sent back
20:56.38Nickenyfikenbah how the hell can my C: be full, only win and some programs installed and its 20 GB
20:56.50Chompersalso, any chance of adding multiple addons to be checked at once?
20:56.57Chomperskinda like a list
20:59.51CyrezWahoo!!! I made a keyboard macro that logs into WoW for me. ^^
21:00.40GagorianAddict.
21:00.48Chompersdangerious...does it have your details in it :o
21:00.57deltronbe careful with that
21:01.03deltronunsure how warden likes that
21:01.08deltronyou using autohotkey or something?
21:01.12deltronor autoit
21:01.26CyrezAutoHotkey, yeah.
21:01.37CyrezBut, it's the keyboard that's special.
21:01.49CyrezI got it free around the time of the .com boom.
21:01.55CyrezHas special keys.
21:02.01CyrezBut I never installed the software.
21:02.02GagorianThere's been people that have been banned alledgedly for using keyboard macros
21:02.13deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=93189805&sid=1 <-- was I blunt enough?
21:02.27pastamancerwhat happens if you accidentally hit that key when you're on irc? :p
21:02.33CyrezCan't.
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21:02.45pastamanceroh, it's fancy like that?
21:02.48CyrezGotta hit Control then the special blue button.
21:03.00TecnoBratand when you hit that?
21:03.06TecnoBratyou send your message to irc :P
21:03.15CyrezSo there's not a chance in heck that I could hit it by accident.
21:03.25CyrezThe keys are pretty far from each other.
21:03.38NickenyfikenMy cats would be able to :-P
21:04.00CyrezIf you saw my keyboard, you'd see what I mean, lol.
21:04.09Nickenyfikenone cat is an expert in searching for files
21:04.50CyrezThat, and the blue keys press a lot harder than the regular keys.
21:05.55SarozFunkeh`, ping
21:06.06CyrezSo, if I just hit the blue key by itself, nothing happens.
21:06.40Funkeh`Saroz: dude wtf that hurt
21:06.43CyrezI'm not worried. It's probably macroing attacks and such that gets people nailed.
21:06.50SarozFunkeh` man, need to talk about nightbane
21:07.03Saroz1) Why is there no BigWigs_ThrottleSync on NightbaneBlast
21:07.21Saroz2) Why are you only warning about 1 blast each flight
21:07.40CyrezA split second burst a couple times a day is probably nothing to Warden.
21:07.55Saroz3) if I grab the target of nightbane's blast, which is the best way to display that, should I send with the sync, or check target upon sync
21:09.14SarozI tried checking who actually got HIT by the blast, but that's waaay to scattered in the raid to actually be usefull
21:09.25Sarozso NB's target is best, I grabbed the cthun target shit, gonna use that
21:09.35Sarozjust need the best way to sync the target
21:10.22Funkeh`what one is blast again
21:10.31Sarozthe dmg on highest aggro in p2
21:10.38Saroznot bones
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21:12.14Funkeh`ah yes
21:12.16Funkeh`the casting message
21:12.35Sarozye
21:13.11Sarozso I wanna send the target of NB with the sync
21:13.12SarozI think
21:14.40Funkeh`its an aoe as far as i remember, targeting random things
21:14.47Funkeh`so was rain of bones and i didn't want ot add that
21:15.08TecnoBratrain of bones is random 1 target .. that does an aoe around that person
21:15.08Funkeh`its not synced because
21:15.32Funkeh`i forgot
21:15.32TecnoBratblast is highest healing aggro
21:15.33Sarozhttp://ace.pastey.net/10774
21:15.33Funkeh`throtled even
21:15.33TecnoBratin phase 2
21:15.33Sarozit's targetted on 1 person
21:15.47Sarozwhich needs to be healed
21:15.47TecnoBratand someone else can grab aggro .. its not stuck on that person
21:15.59Sarozindeed
21:16.17Funkeh`not really
21:16.23Funkeh`it swaps every 3-4 seconds
21:16.27Herio/who pat
21:16.27Fisker-TecnoBrat
21:16.30Herioerrrrrr
21:16.32Fisker-do you downrank?
21:16.36Funkeh`i thought basic healing people with low health was good enough
21:16.37Sarozit goes to highest aggro every 3-4 second
21:16.37Sarozyes
21:16.38TecnoBratyes, really ... I tank that blast ALL of the time
21:16.50Sarozme too
21:16.53Sarozpaladin with RF
21:16.53Sarozgogo
21:16.59TecnoBratPaladin + Righteous fury = GG
21:17.05Sarozyup
21:17.07Sarozbut still
21:17.11Saroz2 paladins = who has aggro
21:17.15Sarozsometimes silly druid has aggro
21:17.16Sarozneed to know
21:17.39Herio~seen PatTheMav
21:18.09purli haven't seen 'patthemav', Herio
21:18.09TecnoBratI just watch for the fire debuff myself
21:18.10TecnoBratthe blast also puts a magic effect on the target, so I heal them if its not me :)
21:18.10Sarozwell
21:18.11Sarozthe blast puts debuff on a lot of people
21:18.12TecnoBratbut, to each their own :)
21:18.15_neuron_ckknight, you around?
21:18.19Sarozthe only interest is NB's target
21:18.46Sarozone problem is I need to change the sync
21:18.56Sarozor people with older versions will send no target
21:18.58ckknight_neuron_: sorta kinda maybe no
21:19.08Sarozand syncthrottle will throw away sync's with targets
21:19.10djsparkanyone know if dreamchat is still be worked on?
21:19.14Ominousckknight: anything that needs working on in pitbull
21:19.15_neuron_ckknight, ok I'll just say this with your nick in it then, and hope your logging picks it up :p
21:19.22djsparkor if there is a similar mod that is fully developed
21:19.27Ominousckknight: more that i could work on
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21:19.59_neuron_ckknight, Aura.lua line 251-270 is at the wrong indentation level, is that intentional?  Also line 266 is in need of a if num_debuffs > 0 (can be in the if num_debuffs == 0 then .. else right under it as well)
21:20.09ckknightOminous: yes, make an option for pet to not show health color by happiness
21:20.13ckknightshould be super-easy
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21:20.28Ominousok
21:20.33ckknight_neuron_: I didn't fuck it up
21:20.41ckknightOminous: the code's already to show by happiness, just no way to turn it off
21:20.50Ominousok
21:21.00Ominouswhere can i download luac
21:21.18_neuron_ckknight, nha, but it's your project, and I promised myself not to do any svn commits while I got the flu
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21:22.22_neuron_looks like nevcairiel has done a lot of pitbull aura commits, I can go nag him instead if you want :P
21:22.44AKXdjspark: I kinda work on DreamChat, but not really at the moment...
21:22.52Ominous_neuron_ thats my code
21:22.56Ominouswhats wrong with it
21:23.06_neuron_for i = num_shown_debuffs + 1, num_debuffs do, i = -1
21:23.14_neuron_and it's at the wrong indentation from line 251-270
21:23.36Funkeh`Saroz: you would essentially be creating a lot of spam mesages
21:23.38Ominousoh yea
21:23.52SarozFunkeh`, it already does, there is no throttle
21:23.56Funkeh`Saroz: i don't think adding that to the main bigwigs module is a good idea, you should stick to using it locally
21:24.14Sarozanyway, yes I would
21:24.24djsparkAKX: just seems like such a good idea, just not quite finished. I have a basic understanding of lua, so if you guys have a todo list or anything let me know. I've not seen any other ace chat frame mods, and not too many nonace ones that are good
21:24.31SarozFunkeh`, hrm
21:25.21AKXWell djspark, it's mostly just getting it all up to speed. The Prat formatting support is nice, but then again the native formatting shouldn't be forgotten, etc, etc, etc.
21:25.42AKXdjspark: If you have Python, run the dochelper.py script to generate the documentation - it has todo items as well.
21:26.34CIA-1103ominous * r31995 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: fix indentation
21:26.35djsparkAKX I use eclipse for most of my coding, so it'll parse out TODO per project
21:26.49djsparkI'd like to work on getting more of the UI options setup to make it more usable
21:27.15_neuron_Ominous, and the for loop is bad :P
21:27.47Ominouswhats wrong wit hit
21:27.51_neuron_Ominous, "for i = num_shown_debuffs + 1, num_debuffs do" can result in i=-1, so it should be a if num_debuffs > 0 in there somewhere (can be joined with the debuff check you got 1 line under it)
21:27.56AKXdjspark, alright. Feel free to hack at it, and I'll give you my blessing to commit changes as well.. Or just poke me here on IRC and we'll see what you've made (if you make anything) :]
21:28.23Ominousah k
21:28.43djsparkAKX: hehe ok, I'l hit you up here when I have something work looking at
21:28.56AKXRighto :)
21:30.42CIA-1103ominous * r31996 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: fix loop (drycoded)
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21:32.09CIA-1103derkyle * r31997 10ItemSync/ItemSync.lua:
21:32.09CIA-11ItemSync:
21:32.09CIA-11- Update: Fetch Links has been improved by Dracula from WOWInterface.com. It
21:32.09CIA-11will now properly return items you input and not just the first one it finds.
21:32.09CIA-11Use [ ] for exact item matches only, and keep [* *] for a pattern match, ie.
21:32.09CIA-11partial item search. Special thanks to Dracula all credit goes to him for the
21:32.13CIA-11update.
21:33.19Fisker-lol
21:33.23robotusch:o
21:33.24Fisker-i was wondering why wow was lagging
21:33.29Ominous_neuron_: better? L)
21:33.35Fisker-turns out that messenger was taking up one of my cores entirely :(
21:33.42robotuschyou were running C&C3 in the background? :P
21:33.58robotuschah, no wonder you just went offline on me ;(
21:34.23djsparkit's hilarious how the wiki signature page has people signing the top and the bottom.
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21:34.47_neuron_Ominous, you could still merge it with the line under to shorten the code
21:34.56_neuron_your doing if num_(de)buffs == 0
21:34.59djsparkis there anyone here that can give me some svn love, or should I send the e-mail in?
21:35.01_neuron_but yeah, that'll work :)
21:35.16hyperChipmunkarcane resist useful in any end-game zones now?
21:35.24RoartindonHmm.. if I wanted to get an additional API call into MobHealth3, who should I talk to?
21:35.43hyperChipmunkyour text editor
21:35.53ckknightRoartindon: what do you want to add?
21:36.09RoartindonWell, MobHealth3:GetUnitHealth requires a unitid
21:36.21RoartindonI was hoping to have a method that doesn't require the unitid
21:36.29hyperChipmunkcan't you look it up directly?
21:36.32RoartindonBut I provide unit name/level/health/maxHP
21:36.39ckknighthrm...
21:36.41ckknightmaybe
21:36.41RoartindonI currently look up directly using GetMH3Cache
21:36.50Roartindonwhich is just ugly from an API standpoint
21:36.56ckknightyea, add a method
21:37.33Scr3emi'm using quest_fu now, it's great, except the font in the tracker is too small to read
21:37.53_neuron_Scr3em, think you can change the size of that font
21:37.54Scr3emi don't see a font size option, or ui scale option for it, any idea?
21:38.04RoartindonOkay, I'll do that. Will call it GetHealth as opposed to GetUnitHealth
21:38.19_neuron_Scr3em, Kemayo might be able to tell you where he hid that option ;)
21:38.53Scr3emalso, iceHud is very nice, ty for the tip
21:39.34Scr3em_neuron_, i found the setting, thanks :)
21:41.31Chompersaaaha
21:41.37Chompersi enabled raid targets in pitbull
21:41.55Chompersoh god bars everywhere
21:42.42djsparkok Ace Admins group, you've got mail :-)
21:43.22Ominouschompers: rofl
21:45.46mjcclad|dinner: <3
21:46.15Ominousckknight: i presume pet colouring is ounly on ur pet
21:46.52ckknightyes.
21:46.52ckknightdjspark: NO U
21:46.52Chompersi think someone is wisping me...i cant tell
21:47.11mjcckknight: did you see the screenshot I linked yesterday? you quit before I could link it but I asked someone to show wyou when you got back
21:47.21Ominousso if you do ckknight if you do name = group == "pet" and {ace optiosns stuff} will the toggle only show if the group is pet?
21:47.27mjcckknight: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=447870932&size=o
21:47.43ckknightOminous: essentially only add the option if group == "pet"
21:47.50ckknightjust use an if statement
21:48.20ckknightmjc: you showed that to me before, I don't know what I'm looking for
21:48.31mjcwarlock with two pets
21:49.10djsparkckknight: /rude
21:49.22ckknightdjspark: /rasp
21:49.24Fisker-<PROTECTED>
21:49.39Chompersck, when i pull bars out of the default 'pile' is there any order to them?
21:49.50ckknightbars?
21:49.51ckknightpile?
21:50.07Chompersi turned on raid targets, there we're all at 0,0 i assume
21:50.23Fisker-dirty talk Chompers
21:52.13vid`mjc: hehe you got the autobar/cycircled prob too :P
21:52.25vid`with the black box
21:52.33vid`mask doesnt work
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21:53.36ckknightChompers: no grouping yet
21:53.45mjcvid`: yeah.
21:55.28vid`no one's fixed that bug since like 2.0 came out :(
21:55.28Chompersoh, any plans for 'sticky' frames
21:55.28vid`only happens with autobar /shrug
21:55.28Chompersnot sure what its called, but where frames stick to other frames
21:56.00Fisker-i can sticky your frames
21:56.36Fisker-if you know what i mean
21:58.03CIA-1103morgalm * r31998 10MorgDKP/LootTablet.lua:
21:58.03CIA-11MorgDKP:
21:58.03CIA-11- hopeful fix for nil error on looting due to coins (very intermittent)
21:58.10Ominousckknight: what color should it be of its not by happiness?
21:58.18ckknightcolored by health
21:58.21mjcman I want a decent dps meter but I don't feel like writing it. :P
21:58.29ckknightthe code for that is already there
21:58.35ckknightat the bottom of the health coloring function
21:59.17Ominousckknight: ah thats really easy
22:02.27hyperChipmunkanyone know if there's an endgame need for arcane resist now?
22:02.47mjcyes
22:03.08hyperChipmunkgood deal
22:03.14[dRaCo]Curator, at least for one perso
22:03.22[dRaCo]s/perso/person/
22:03.25stavmarI received this error with PT3Bar, anyone know what is going on? http://ace.pastey.net/10781
22:03.28hyperChipmunkbah
22:03.49hyperChipmunkno use for cloth shoulders with 42sta 27arc resist?
22:03.56Fisker-remove your sv's stavmar
22:04.03CIA-1103ominous * r31999 10PitBull/Health/Health.lua: PitBull: Added option to disable color pet health by happiness, drycoded but no syntax errors
22:04.14Ominousplease can a hunter test that
22:04.15hyperChipmunkOminous: woot
22:04.19hyperChipmunkdoing so
22:04.28stavmarFisker-: which ones, just for PT3Bar?
22:04.32Fisker-yup
22:04.32ckknightdelegation ftw
22:04.43Ominousalso tell me if the option shows up groups other than your pet
22:04.59[dRaCo]hyperChipmunk: not afaik
22:05.13hyperChipmunkit doesn't
22:05.21djsparkckknight: so was the NO U my application denial for svn?  :-?
22:05.23Ominouswork or show up?
22:05.29hyperChipmunkshows up in only pet
22:05.33Ominousyay
22:05.37Ominousdoes it work?
22:05.51hyperChipmunkyep
22:05.54Ominousyay
22:05.55ckknightdjspark: don't know what that was for
22:06.04Ominousckknight: anything else?
22:06.11Fisker-NO U
22:06.15ckknightdunno, I should really code some more
22:06.27Fisker-yeah
22:06.31Fisker-*shakes fist*
22:06.51djsparklol ok
22:07.12hyperChipmunkyea, let me make his name yellow or red when he's unhappy
22:07.15Ominousckknight: would be great if you could get raid grouping done :)
22:07.52stavmarFisker-: still getting the error  PT3Bar-0.1\PT3Bar.lua:548: attempt to index field 'count' (a nil
22:08.17stavmarand it continues to repeat slowly
22:08.20Fisker-:o
22:08.25Fisker-fixed it for me
22:08.37Fisker-might be the relog i did
22:08.44Ominousbrb restarting to get enviromental luac variables to take effect
22:09.12stavmarwell i deleted teh sv's out of game then logged back in...
22:09.15stavmarhmm
22:10.27robotuschFisker, gief a helping hand in stv :(
22:10.30Fisker-never
22:10.35robotusch:/
22:10.36Fisker-gtfo my server
22:10.37Fisker-:(
22:10.40robotuschnevahs
22:10.53robotuschotherwise you'll have to take the weekend off so we can duel
22:11.00robotuschpaladin vs paladin
22:11.06Fisker-i'm holy
22:11.10robotuschso am I
22:11.16robotusch= it will take forever
22:11.32Fisker-i got more +healing than you so i win
22:11.48robotuschI blame it on me being unguilded & forced to rely on pugs :|
22:12.09Fisker-my stuff is random shit anyways
22:12.16Fisker-could've been easily pugged
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22:12.39robotuschnot easy when the group kicks you right before the boss that drops the item you're after :(!
22:12.48Fisker-aww
22:12.52Ominousthat sucks
22:12.55Fisker-my items never drop
22:12.55CIA-1103chuckg * r32000 10SpellWatch/SpellWatch.lua:
22:12.55CIA-11SpellWatch:
22:12.56CIA-11- Typo in :EventDeath(), fixed death of player-characters timers.
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22:13.06Ominouswe had a "resto druid" hearth in the middle of the fight and let our tank die lol
22:13.09Fisker-i've went to steamvaults _3_ times and i've never seen the mask of pennace
22:13.15Fisker-_3_ times man
22:13.16Ominousso we wuped
22:13.18robotuschit really sucked that I had to endure 7 wipes with that group
22:13.49robotusch& then they kicked me right before Vorpil without saying anything, except for a whisper 5 mins later hotlinking item I was chasing >_<
22:14.12robotuschFusker, grinded honored > a bit into revered in SV, haven't seen the mask either ;D
22:15.05Fisker-no but _3_ times
22:15.16robotuschaww, poor Fusker
22:15.18Fisker-also took me 1 run to become revered
22:15.22Fisker-nub
22:16.09robotuschbecause you were 5999/6000 honored or what?
22:16.11Fisker-it's 12000
22:16.16Fisker-and no i think i was at like 9k
22:16.30Fisker-but it had l2p'ed
22:16.54robotuschitems & rep'O'plenty or what?
22:17.04Fisker-yeah
22:17.09Fisker-also quests
22:17.26Fisker-with cenarion expedition it was pretty much only quests
22:17.29robotuschthere's what 2 or 3 quests in SV?
22:18.03robotuschI wonder if I should go grind sporeggar rep just for the heck of it :\
22:18.31Fisker-a lot of cenarion expedition quests throughout outlands
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22:19.07robotuschah ya, thought you meant quests in SV
22:19.40Fisker-ofc not
22:19.44robotuschlies
22:19.55Fisker-it's not rocket surgery
22:20.04mjcrocket surgery
22:20.06mjclol
22:20.07Heriobrain science?
22:20.09robotuschWrong, it IS in fact rocket surgery
22:20.10ckknightyea, lol
22:20.15robotuschjust ask the GIA
22:20.25robotuschGIA = winnar
22:20.44robotuscha pair of lvl 3 gnomes travelling around in Outland, visiting all the gnomish outposts ;D
22:20.59HerioGIA?
22:21.03robotuschstylishly dressed in the full tuxedo set
22:21.10Heriognome intelligence agency?
22:21.11robotuschGnomish Intelligence Agency aka Gnomes in Black
22:21.19HerioGiB?
22:21.35Herioyeah that's what happens to you when you're a level 3 in outlands
22:21.51Herioyou get gibbed from the over kill D:
22:22.36Ominousckknight: common im bored any ideas
22:23.05ckknightfix my relationship
22:23.17Ominoussorry im the worst person you could ask
22:23.51Grollanyone know what blascprofiler and chaman2 is for addons?
22:23.59Grollwell ok that was nice english :P
22:24.11mjclol
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22:29.01Ominousckknight: shall i work on Customisable Health Colours?
22:29.21ckknightif you'd like
22:29.36ckknightdo what you think would be interesting
22:30.05Heriosame sex relations is interesting
22:30.07mjcI like the new prat color changes
22:30.11mjcHerio: lesbians ftw
22:30.14Heriobut that's not my cup of tea >.>
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22:30.31mjcOminous: raid layouts
22:30.32mjc;P
22:30.48chutwigyes please
22:32.04mjcwho's in charge of PT-bosses or w/e
22:32.31mjcwtb rare spawns on boss notes in cart
22:32.42mjcinstanceloot that is
22:34.48Fisker-your mom!
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22:37.49xyu`hmm my friend has a "Gem" catagory in the AH but i dont.  anyone know what gives him that  option?
22:38.07Ominousmjc: im not suicidal :P
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22:38.43CIA-1103roartindon * r32001 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua: MobHealth: Added MobHealth3:GetHealth() which does not require a unitid (or do any checks on unitid)
22:40.18CIA-1103roartindon * r32002 10Aloft/Aloft.lua:
22:40.18CIA-11Aloft
22:40.19CIA-11- Uses MobHealth3:GetHealth() instead of GetMH3Cache() hackery.
22:40.19CIA-11- Only created healthTextFrame if mode is not set to hidden.
22:40.26Ominousin aceOptions table "~IsGood" is the same as functn() return not self:IsGood() end but is ~IsGood the same as function() return not IsGood() end
22:40.47vid`xyu i use some gem viewer mod i forget what it called
22:40.58vid`just search for gem viewer on wowinterface.com or whatev
22:41.06xyu`oki
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22:42.40Ominousckknight: ^^?
22:43.13ckknightno
22:44.07Ominouskk
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22:45.47Sarozlol @ GirlFriend mod
22:48.41ckknightyou know what I want to do? make all libraries have some prefix like Lib:
22:48.43Heriolol
22:48.59Heriockk that /would/ be wonderful
22:49.37CIA-1103ominous * r32003 10PitBull/Health/Health.lua: PitBull: Added custom color option, drycoded but no syntax errors
22:49.46Ominouswould love if that cld be tested
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22:50.17HerioTipHookerLib (lol)
22:50.39NeoTronwoot! I shall now look forward to farming the mats for spellstrike
22:50.46Heriowhy?
22:50.48chutwighooray
22:50.55chutwigi just finished battlecast
22:50.59NeoTronat least I'm done levelling tradeskills
22:51.06Heriobattlecast is very underwhelming
22:51.08NeoTrongot Frozen Shadoweave done
22:51.09chutwigi have another month until shadoweave vest and then i'm done with that too
22:51.15chutwigbattlecast is excellent for affliction warlocks
22:51.17ckknightit'd be so much easier to manage in Blizzard's addon thingy
22:51.18ckknightwould anyone object?
22:51.18ckknightit's just annoying to know that Compost is a library, since nothing really gives it away
22:51.25NeoTronit's overall a good set
22:51.33NeoTronbetter for shadowpriests
22:51.49NeoTronhowever since I have other stuff with stamina, I'd rather make the more dps-like spellstrike set
22:52.03chutwighigh stam, more stam than int, decent damage, no spell crit crapping it up
22:52.12chutwigexcept for the inexplicable socket bonuses
22:52.17CIA-1103jjsheets * r32004 10InfiniBar/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
22:52.17CIA-11InfiniBar - Initial commit.
22:52.17CIA-11-- InfiniBar makes any number of buttons available, and makes use of absolutely zero action ids. InfiniBar supports actionbar, stances/forms, stealth, and modifier keys changing button "pages".
22:52.38NeoTronso I guess I need to do shadow lab and shattered halls
22:52.39Ominousjjsheets: nice, how much memory does it use?
22:52.42Fisker-fap
22:52.44NeoTronI actually have the primal nethers, but not the patterns
22:52.56chutwigi'll be looking at breaking 1k shadow damage with the shadoweave vest
22:53.06chutwigthe only pattern i have is whitemend hood, no luck on any of the other ones
22:53.16Fisker-i just pass on it anyways
22:53.18NeoTronI'm at like 915 or so max dmg
22:53.20JJSheetsOminous, my setup takes less than a megabyte, but I could see it taking up to two ro three if you use enough buttons.  :)
22:53.21Fisker-i hate having to grind stuff for people
22:53.24AKXyacoob, since when have you been listening to Shpongle as well? >:O
22:53.31Fisker-whitemend hood, battlecast hood and some others
22:53.36NeoTronneed some better dmg trinkets
22:53.37chutwigright now i'm sitting at 963 shadow with fel armor up
22:53.40NeoTronlike quagmirrans eye
22:53.41Fisker-ofcourse not as the only tailorer :P
22:53.48chutwigneo
22:53.58chutwigi took the trinket from doing heroics and mark of defiance
22:54.09Heriowtf is SRA?
22:54.12chutwigquag is good if you're destro but i don't think destro really holds up well in endgame
22:54.19Heriothe description leaves me hanging
22:54.21NeoTronthe heroic one is great
22:54.25chutwigyeah, i love it
22:54.26CodayusHmm, I'd sell an organ for whitemend hood pattern.  :-(
22:54.36chutwigi've only made one so far, for a guildie
22:54.37yacoobAKX, since some time :)
22:54.44AKXPfft
22:54.47NeoTronmark of efiance isn't bad
22:54.50yacoobgood for driving too.
22:54.52AKXI'm going to see Shpongle and Hallucinogen live in July. >:]
22:54.53chutwigmark is actually pretty good
22:54.58chutwigjust requires a little time investment in hellfire
22:55.02Fisker-Herio Sucky Raid Frames
22:55.03NeoTronwait it's a vendor trinket?
22:55.08HerioI see
22:55.08chutwigthe mark?  yeah
22:55.10NeoTronoh it's a badge one?
22:55.13chutwig30 honor hold/thrallmar marks
22:55.18yacoobAKX, I've been walking around the goa music for last 6 months or so
22:55.22AKXI see
22:55.30AKXSeveral years for me
22:55.38chutwigyou can also get +8 damage gems for 10 marks each if you're cheap and don't want to pay for runed living rubies
22:55.39NeoTronbut quagmirran is really good
22:55.48yacoobso far, Infected Mushrooms are the best :)
22:55.51NeoTronespecially since even as affliction lock SB is a prime DPS
22:55.53NeoTronlike half
22:55.54chutwigit is good, but if you're affliction then it's pretty useless, because it only triggers on spell crit
22:55.59AKX*Infected Mushroom. Yeah, it's really good.
22:56.08chutwigi only use SB if nightfall procs
22:56.14AKXyacoob: http://www.last.fm/event/185386
22:56.26NeoTrondo you not raid?
22:56.32chutwigi raid quite oten
22:56.33chutwigoften
22:56.40NeoTronhow do you DPS/ drain life?
22:56.43chutwigdrain life
22:56.47NeoTronthat's not as good dps.. :P
22:56.47AKXAnyways. Sleepy time.
22:56.59NeoTroneven untalented, I think shadow bolt is more raw dps
22:57.15chutwigin a 25-man raid my drain life will do damage at 500 dps alone
22:57.19chutwignot counting dot damage
22:57.26chutwigyou won't match that with shadow bolt, guaranteed, even with ruin
22:57.38Ominoushas anybody tested that last PitBull commit?
22:57.52NeoTronmy shadow bolt does, without accounting for crits, maybe 800 DPS
22:57.57OminousJJSheets: got any pics of it?, now im annoyed i hav eno wow
22:57.58NeoTronwith a shadow priest/CoS
22:58.04DaemonaOK, anyone here playing horde and thinking blizzard royally screwed up on fear mechanics with nightbane?
22:58.22NeoTronno matter what you do, drain life will never be MORE dps
22:58.22Herio1,250 average SB is very attainable, even as afflictioon
22:58.23NeoTronDaemona: dodm
22:58.26NeoTronopps
22:58.26chutwigmy non-crit SBs now hit for 1500+
22:58.29chutwigi still don't use it
22:58.34Daemonadodm? ;)
22:58.34Heriouh
22:58.39HerioMATHES
22:58.42HerioMATHES
22:58.42NeoTrondidn't you get the memo Daemona? There won't be any fights in the expansion where fear is a major factor
22:58.43HerioMATHES
22:58.57Daemonabluepost or it didnt happen
22:58.58Daemona!
22:59.06NeoTronchutwig: even then your shadowbolts do more dps than drain life
22:59.15chutwigit's slow to cast and i like draining because i can tap and drain it all back
22:59.22NeoTronagain
22:59.24JJSheetsOminous, pics are coming soon... another thing infinibar does is allow you to set an override spell, petspell, or item, which can override the tooltip, icon, and/or cooldown of a button, while not otherwise affecting the action of the button.
22:59.26Daemonaits so hilarious, your tank HAS to do an aggro style and is on cooldown for zerker rage... and he instantly fears on landing
22:59.29NeoTronit'll never be top DPS
22:59.31chutwigneo i really really don't care what you say
22:59.35NeoTronI do use drain of course but not as main dps
22:59.39JJSheetsIt will soon be able to edit macros directly in buttons as well.
22:59.44chutwiglike, you have no idea how insignificant your words are to me on this matter
23:00.07Heriochutwig
23:00.08NeoTronyou are welcome to gimp your damage output. not my concern
23:00.09Heriomath
23:00.10Heriokay
23:00.34NightHawkTheSanemy overpowered warlock epeen > your overpowered warlock epeen!!!!!111oneone
23:00.42NeoTronme, I prefer to optimize my damage output while at the same time not dying (tap tap drain life SB/dots)
23:01.03OminousJJSheets:shweet, how easy is it to hook to button presses?
23:01.14Ominousas in my itemenchantapplication works off actionids
23:01.23Ominousbut it there are none i will need to find another way
23:02.31*** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@71-218-138-197.hlrn.qwest.net)
23:02.48JJSheetshow are you hooking now?
23:03.04NeoTronDaemona: btw the "fear" thing was a blue post around the time it was announced draenei got fear ward
23:03.13NeoTronI still find that to be one of the strangest decisions
23:03.49CIA-1103jjsheets * r32005 10InfiniBar/: InfiniBar - updated .toc, and added externals.
23:03.59OminousJJSheets: self:SecureHook("UseAction")
23:04.12JJSheetsah... hmmm...
23:04.16OminousJJSheets: but then i get the actionID and tooltip scan
23:04.39CIA-1103jjsheets * r32006 10InfiniBar/InfiniBar.toc: InfiniBar - Actually updated .toc file this time. :p
23:04.42Ominouswhich works on every action bar addon i have tryed that uses action ids
23:06.23*** join/#wowace [DiE]Celeb (n=zlkkiz@ti300720a080-4862.bb.online.no)
23:06.33JJSheetsOminous, securehook CastSpellByName, CastPetAction, etc.
23:07.01JJSheetsalso, RunMacro and RunMacroText
23:07.17Ominouswell i cant play now
23:07.25Ominousbtw u forgot the external waterfall
23:07.47JJSheetsu bastard.  :p
23:07.55Ominousand in tic
23:08.00JJSheetsyup
23:08.00Ominous:P
23:08.06Fisker-what addon did i have that i no longer have that compared items? :(
23:08.17Fisker-it was fukken ace'd
23:08.27Hjaltetekkompare, eqcompare, equipcompare fisker-?
23:09.05*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)
23:10.23CIA-1103jjsheets * r32007 10InfiniBar/ (. InfiniBar.toc): InfiniBar - Added waterfall library to .toc and externals.
23:11.08JJSheets~whalecrit JJSheets
23:11.19purlACTION crits JJSheets with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. JJSheets dies
23:11.32nymbiayou're lucky purl's so slow ;)
23:11.37JJSheetsheheh
23:11.43nymbiapurl, you suck
23:11.45purlno, *you* suck!
23:11.59JJSheetspurl, you suck goat balls!
23:12.00Ominouspurl, you really really suck
23:12.04Fisker-probably eqcompare Hjalte
23:12.05JJSheetslol
23:12.08nymbiasee, CIA-11 is pro
23:12.34Ominousis CIA-11 a person as well as a bot
23:12.58nymbiathat'd suck to type out all those commit messages
23:13.03JJSheetslol
23:13.03Ominousrofl
23:13.07Heriolol
23:13.10CodayusIt's a dirty job, but someone has to do it
23:13.14Ominouspurl, CIA-11 is better than you
23:13.15purlokay, Ominous
23:13.25Ominoushe agrees
23:13.30JJSheetsCIA's baby needs a new pair of shoes.
23:13.36Ominouslol
23:13.47Ominouspurl, you are CIA-11's baby
23:13.48purlI think you lost me on that one, Ominous
23:13.53JJSheetslol
23:13.57nymbiano purl, CIA-11 is <reply> better than purl
23:14.03Ominouspurl, JJSheets hates you
23:14.09Ominous:D
23:14.09nymbiapurl no, CIA-11 is <reply> better than purl
23:14.10purlnymbia: okay
23:14.14*** part/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@ekm-s-216-160.resnet.CSUChico.EDU)
23:14.16nymbia~CIA-11
23:14.18purlbetter than purl
23:14.55JJSheetspurl no, CIA-11 is <reply> I wish i could be as cool as CIA-11.
23:14.57purlokay, JJSheets
23:15.03JJSheets~CIA-11
23:15.05purlI wish i could be as cool as CIA-11.
23:15.06nymbialol
23:15.09JJSheetslol
23:15.14Ominous~JJSheets
23:15.34OminousJJSheets is a person who forgets about waterfalls
23:15.45Ominouspurl, JJSheets is a person who forgets about waterfalls
23:15.46purlokay, Ominous
23:15.52Ominous~JJSheets
23:15.54purli heard jjsheets is a person who forgets about waterfalls
23:15.56Ominous:D
23:16.04nymbiaburn.
23:16.08JJSheetspurl no, JJSheets is the coolest person on Earth.
23:16.10purlokay, JJSheets
23:16.15JJSheetsthank you. :)
23:16.22nymbialol
23:16.22JJSheets~jjsheets
23:16.25purlyou are, like, the coolest person on Earth.
23:16.25Ominouspurl no, JJSheets loes
23:16.33Ominousoops
23:16.33nymbiarofl
23:16.36JJSheetshahahahaha
23:17.13JJSheetspurl, Ominous is addicted to crack.
23:17.14purlokay, JJSheets
23:17.18JJSheetslol
23:17.27JJSheets~Ominous
23:17.28purlit has been said that ominous is addicted to crack.
23:17.28Ominouspurl no, Ominous hates his latop
23:17.32JJSheetslol
23:17.42Ominouspurl no, Ominous hates his laptop
23:17.49NightHawkTheSanehahah
23:17.50JJSheetsokay, I'm done.  :)
23:17.59Ominous~jjsheets
23:18.01purlit has been said that jjsheets is the coolest person on Earth.
23:18.02NightHawkTheSanepurl > Ominous
23:18.03purli guess ominous is addicted to crack.
23:18.12nymbiarofl
23:18.15JJSheetshehehehehe
23:18.18Ominousrofl
23:18.21Ominousbasterd
23:18.43JJSheetsokay... now to update cyCircled to properly mod InfiniBar.
23:18.49Ominous:D
23:18.51nymbiapurl no, Ominous is a laptop abuster
23:18.53purlokay, nymbia
23:18.58nymbiawow
23:18.59JJSheetsabuster?
23:19.01JJSheetslol
23:19.02Ominousrofl
23:19.05nymbiapurl no, Ominous is a laptop abuser
23:19.06purlokay, nymbia
23:19.07nymbia>.<
23:19.10robotuschbtw, is it possible to set up a castsequence macro so it will skip a spell that's on cd - or rather, so a spell that is on a cd won't block the entire casting sequence?
23:19.14Ominouspurl no, Ominous is great
23:19.15purlokay, Ominous
23:19.32HjalteInfininbar, anything special about it that makes me want to use it JJSheets? :)
23:19.37nymbiarobotusch: nope :(
23:20.02Ominouspurl, InfiniBar is a bar with endless posibilities
23:20.04purlOminous: okay
23:20.05nymbiaJJSheets: cycircled stuff is pretty easy to add actually
23:20.06robotuschbugger
23:20.13NeoTronHjalte: you like to have 4999 buttons on the screen
23:20.41robotuschwould have been nice if it would add Amp Curse whenever it was off CD
23:20.44JJSheetsnymbia, I already have it done... just need to grab it from dev.wowace.com not svn.wowace.com :)
23:21.00HjalteNeotron, I do like to have a lot of buttons on my screen, but I was thinking of differences between it and eg bartender3 :)
23:21.04Ominous~pitbull
23:21.13robotuschas it is know I'll have to have 4 different castingsequence macros - kinda makes the whole point useless
23:21.52NeoTronI'm thinking amp curse + curse of doom on curator is fun
23:23.15nymbiabig numbers!
23:23.15NightHawkTheSaneyour mom is fun on curator.
23:23.16CIA-1103jjsheets * r32008 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc plugins/InfiniBar.lua):
23:23.16CIA-11cyCircled:
23:23.16CIA-11- Added InfiniBar plugin.
23:23.36NeoTronat least NightHawkTheSane  comes with a memory
23:23.36NeoTronimpressive
23:23.36NeoTronwhat is CyCircled?
23:23.39JJSheetsawesome that's waht.
23:23.41Ominous~cycircled
23:23.44JJSheetss/waht/what/
23:24.19Ominouspurl, you must take adrenalin to be quicker at replying
23:24.29JJSheetslol
23:24.48Ominousrofl
23:24.53Ominoushe still hasent replied
23:24.58hyperChipmunkhe did the substitution quickly enough
23:25.08hyperChipmunk~listkeys cycircled
23:25.29nymbiapurl, you suck
23:25.30purlno, *you* suck!
23:25.38JJSheetspurl, cyCircled is an Ace2 addon that re-skins your action buttons.
23:25.39purlokay, JJSheets
23:25.46nymbialol
23:25.52JJSheetslol
23:26.00nymbia~cycircled
23:26.01purlrumour has it, cycircled is an Ace2 addon that re-skins your action buttons.
23:26.36Ominouswhat is cycircled?
23:26.43Ominousdoes purl rely to that
23:26.49JJSheets~whalecrit Ominous
23:26.50purlACTION crits Ominous with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Ominous dies
23:26.50JJSheetsno
23:26.51JJSheetslol
23:26.53Ominouss/rely/reply/
23:27.14hyperChipmunkpurl, what is cycircled
23:27.17purlhyperChipmunk: what are you talking about?
23:27.27JJSheetspurl no, Ominous is the bomb.
23:27.30purlJJSheets: okay
23:27.31JJSheetslol
23:27.36Ominouslol
23:27.48Ominous~ominous
23:27.49purlhmm... ominous is the bomb.
23:27.54Tornhoofpurl, what is ominous
23:27.56purlTornhoof: I think you lost me on that one
23:28.01Ominousrofl
23:28.06JJSheetspurl, you suck
23:28.08purlno, *you* suck!
23:28.15Tornhoofpurl, what is ominous?
23:28.18purlTornhoof: what are you talking about?
23:28.27Ominouspurl, what are you?
23:28.28purlI am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot>
23:28.29Ominous~purl
23:28.30purlrumour has it, purl is one awesome bot!
23:28.46JJSheets~seen purl
23:29.07purlpurl is currently on #casualti (10d 21h 11m 20s) #botpark (10d 21h 11m 20s) #linuxfund (10d 21h 11m 20s) #wowi-lounge (10d 21h 11m 20s) #edev (10d 21h 11m 20s) #fossfund (10d 21h 11m 20s) #hosernet (10d 21h 11m 20s) #norganna (10d 21h 11m 20s) #creativeforum (10d 21h 11m 20s) #ud (10d 21h ...
23:29.07Tornhoofhes about as smart as the average wow gamer
23:29.07JJSheetsmwahahahaha
23:29.07Ominouspurl no, you are no one awesome bot!
23:29.11purlI think you lost me on that one, Ominous
23:29.11Ominousoops
23:29.12JJSheetslol
23:29.12Ominousenglish erorrs
23:29.17JJSheetsheh
23:29.21JJSheets~dave
23:29.24purlmethinks dave is mtnman
23:29.30Ominous~blootblot
23:29.38JJSheets~bob
23:29.40purlrumour has it, bob is your uncle see http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-bob1.htm, or and don't forget Microsoft Bob http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html
23:29.46JJSheetslol
23:30.03Tornhoof~alice
23:30.05purlWho the fuck is Alice?
23:30.09JJSheetsheh
23:30.11Ominouslol
23:30.17JJSheets~jim
23:30.19purlmethinks jim is <hi> y, or a typo
23:30.28Tornhoof~wow
23:30.29purlwell, wow is the best game ever!
23:30.29JJSheetsO.o
23:30.38Tornhoof~everquest
23:30.39purli heard everquest is irc with k001 ph47 1007
23:30.44JJSheetspurl no, wow is the best game EVAR!
23:30.46purlJJSheets: okay
23:30.50JJSheets~wow
23:30.51purli guess wow is the best game EVAR!
23:30.52Tornhoof~lotr
23:30.54purlsomebody said lotr was The Lord of the Rings
23:31.01Tornhoof~tornoof
23:31.05JJSheetslol
23:31.09JJSheets~tornhoof
23:31.24Tornhoofi think we broke it ;)
23:31.26JJSheetspoor widdle bot's getting confuzzled.
23:31.28JJSheetslol
23:31.31Ominouslol
23:31.43Ominouspurl, i hate you
23:31.45purlYou hate you?
23:31.51Ominouspurl, you!
23:31.53purli'm a broken bot
23:31.53JJSheetshow deep
23:31.58Ominouspurl, we know
23:32.48CIA-1103roartindon * r32009 10Aloft/ (5 files):
23:32.48CIA-11Aloft
23:32.48CIA-11- Split into several files
23:32.49CIA-11- Added ability to color name text according to type
23:33.01JJSheetswhat is Aloft?  :)
23:34.30nymbianameplate modifier
23:34.36*** join/#wowace snurre- (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-37-193.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr)
23:34.47JJSheetsah
23:35.42Ominoushttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5578.0
23:35.45Ominousit looks purdy
23:36.21JJSheetsOOOOOH... now I'm checking that thingajigger out...
23:36.30JJSheetspicture do it more justice than words :)
23:36.34Fisker-big giant FU to blizzard :(
23:36.40JJSheetss/picture/pictures/
23:36.47Fisker-Our tank gets hit with sonic boom @ murmur
23:36.52Fisker-i get silenced and thrown into the air
23:37.02JJSheetslol
23:37.04Fisker-murmur instagibs everyone cause maintank got slowed and couldn't get into range
23:37.15Fisker-oh and we were at 1%
23:38.51JJSheetspoor suckers.
23:38.55CIA-1103jjsheets * r32010 10InfiniBar/IB_Standard.lua: InfiniBar - Changed the maximum number of actionbar pages allowed to 6, since the standard UI won't use more than that.
23:40.06NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: ugh, ive done that, and it sucks when you just cant get back in range in time. ><
23:41.04Ominousjjsheets: WTB pics
23:41.44JJSheetsOminous, I'm logging in to get some of the UI... however... the buttons themselves just look like any other cyCircled modifiable buttons.  :)
23:41.50*** join/#wowace Sylphid (n=Sylphid@mail.chaos-dragon.com)
23:42.00Sylphid<PROTECTED>
23:42.04Ominousdo some w/o cycircled :P
23:42.17JJSheetsOminous, no.  :p  YOU do them.
23:43.06Ominousi cant, i really want to see what it looks like :P but at grans and no wow
23:43.23JJSheetslol
23:46.16MikmaJJSheets: you have forgot to add tablet-2.0 in InfiniBars
23:46.34Fisker-Down let me down Mikma
23:46.42Fisker-wtf
23:47.54JJSheetsMikma, InfiniBar isn't using Tablet...
23:48.15Ominousfubar plugin does
23:48.19JJSheetsbah
23:48.21JJSheetsbastards..
23:48.34Ominousand dewdrop i think
23:48.36JJSheetsso... anything else I need to add, like dewdrop?
23:48.38JJSheets:)
23:48.45Ominousyea
23:48.50Ominoustabelt and dewdrop
23:50.27MikmaJJSheets: you're welcome ;)
23:50.55JJSheets:)  I was about to thank you for being a dependency checker :)
23:51.08CodayusHmm, grabbed pitbull to take a look at it, and...all party windows...are blinking rythmically.
23:51.11CodayusWhy?
23:51.15MikmaJJSheets: hey, what ever for good actionbars!
23:51.53CIA-1103roartindon * r32011 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Disables shadow on name font. Not sure if this will become an option; Outline options seem to be sufficient.
23:51.57NightHawkTheSaneCodayus: it's Pitbull_Rave, host a rave in your own raid! :P
23:52.04Codayus....hmm.
23:52.13NightHawkTheSaneCodayus: er, seriously, it might be a range checking thing?
23:52.33CodayusAlright.  If so, I'm thinking its bugged.
23:52.59NightHawkTheSanei'd wager it's something to do with Pitbull_rangecheck or Pitbull_CombatFader, if you have either of those?
23:53.06MikmaJJSheets: if you use waterfall, do you really needf FuBar-plugin too?
23:53.14CIA-1103jjsheets * r32012 10InfiniBar/ (. InfiniBar.toc): InfiniBar - Added Dewdrop and Tablet to the .toc and externals... Thanks, Mikma!
23:53.17CodayusYeah, I do
23:53.37CodayusAll party windows are faded, but like once a second, they unfade.
23:54.11JJSheetsMikma, yeah... I want an easy way to get to the configuration without slash commands (since I have yet to implement any of them archaic bastards.)
23:54.19CodayusHrm
23:55.15MikmaJJSheets: ok then :) my opinnion is that if waterfall is enough then you shouldn't need to add others
23:55.31OminousJJSheets:yea i agree thb
23:55.33ckknightJesus shops at WalMart.
23:55.40JJSheetsthb?  :p
23:55.46Ominoustbh*
23:57.27CodayusAh
23:57.35CodayusRange Check is making them flash.
23:59.11MikmaJJSheets: PaintChips-2.0 is missing now :) (try loading it without any other addons like i'm doing)
23:59.33JJSheets:)
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23:59.48JJSheetsI'm gonna make some UI changes to make things clearer too...

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