IRC log for #wowace on 20070405

00:01.05chuckgHmm?
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00:02.29chuckgAhh. I'll have to hook into each AlwaysUpFrame and see if one is visible, then.
00:02.39chuckgIt's really lame how ti works, currently.
00:02.55chuckgThere's the WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame, then there's AlwaysUpFrame1-9.
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00:03.04kergothahh yeah
00:03.06cncfanaticshmmmm
00:03.12kergothalwaysupframe1 mustve been there catching my clicks
00:03.13chuckgIt's not like the capturebarFrame1-9 in that 1 is shown or not.
00:03.15kergothweird
00:03.18chuckgAlwaysUp is *ALWAYS* there.
00:03.23chuckgNo you're right.
00:03.32NeoTronhttp://www.spasche.net/mozilla/ <-- essential mozilla/firefox addon
00:03.39cncfanaticswow still crashes my computer with wine & the latest patch , anyone has solutions to it ?
00:03.47chuckgWorldStateAlwaysUpFrame is an *always* visible frame.
00:04.01chuckgWhen you go into a zone that requires an AlwaysUpFrame, it creates 1-9.
00:04.14chuckgThen just attaches itself to the  WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame.
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00:04.35chuckgI was lazy and just resized  WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame to fit within the regions of the AlwaysUpFrame1.
00:04.43chuckgRather than hooking into the other garbage.
00:04.59chuckgWould be 100x better if they did it like hte CaptureBarFrame, which is similar in that it has 1-9.
00:05.10chuckgBut there's not some ghost frame that they attach to.
00:06.18chuckgI hope that explains it. :)
00:06.40HjalteAh, so it is Moveframes that is giving me the problem with invisible frames :)
00:06.53chuckgJust that one.
00:06.54chuckgOn the very top.
00:07.00chuckgAll the others are "correct".
00:07.19chuckgI'll fix it now.
00:07.43CIA-1103fenlis * r31883 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua:
00:07.43CIA-11RatingBuster:
00:07.43CIA-11<PROTECTED>
00:08.06RoartindonHmm.. I've spent the last hour messing around with nameplates code
00:08.10Roartindonwww.lim.com.au/wow/nameplates.jpg
00:09.04chuckgThe WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame is an abomination :(
00:09.13chuckgLooks good.
00:09.40RoartindonStill some problems I need to figure out - the hit box for the mouse cursor to select people is way off...
00:10.08RoartindonBut I wanted something far less intrusive than the standard blizzard "V" frames
00:10.13sbuWOOT
00:10.16sbuRoartindon: WTB
00:10.19NeoTronis there a good WoW-lua debugging tool?
00:10.32NeoTronlike being able to print/monitor variables and such?
00:10.46NeoTronpreferably not involving running /script :P
00:11.27chuckg<PROTECTED>
00:11.33vodrinwhat sbu said
00:12.32rubikhmm.. who killed the svn? (gives 404)
00:12.42rubikor where did it move to?
00:12.48NeoTronchuckg: that's easy enough
00:13.06chuckgYea, comes with AceDebug or Console, I forget which.
00:13.18NeoTronok
00:13.19NeoTronthat'll work
00:13.30NeoTronfeel like fixing up my tetris sometime
00:13.54NeoTronand it has some bug where it deadlogs randomly after a certain amount of time that is reproducable but not predictable
00:14.16ckknight<PROTECTED>
00:14.20ckknightalso, /print
00:14.22ckknightor /echo
00:14.23ckknightall work
00:14.34NeoTroncoolio
00:14.43NeoTronmaybe I should acify it too
00:14.46Mikmackknight: and auras work now perfectly again after nevvie's revert
00:14.52NeoTrondefinitely should convert it to dynamic frames though
00:14.58ckknightokay
00:15.07rubikseriously.. what's new url for wowace svn?
00:15.33NeoTronI was thinking about having some sort of dynamic frame repository where frames no longer needed can be returned to and reused. Since you can't (or can you?) destroy a frame that seemed to make sense
00:15.48chuckgNo.
00:16.16ckknightNeoTron: I do that in PitBull
00:16.51NeoTronwas just thinking a shared version might be of used, so multiple addons all can use the same chunk of frames
00:17.53Mikmarubik: svn.wowace.com
00:18.37renchapthere is a little dns problem with svn.wowace.com
00:18.50rubikyes.. svn.wowace.com == 404
00:19.43renchapyour dns server isnt sync
00:19.46renchapwait a little :)
00:20.29nymbiathe problem with a global frame sharing pool
00:20.42ckknightI don't think a global pool is good
00:20.47ckknightI think a namespaced pool is the best option
00:21.19nymbiais that you don't know what to expect on incoming frames, so you need to either reset every property of the frame, or expect the mods you pass frames to to do it
00:21.25wobin_~seen nevcairiel:
00:21.46purlwobin_: i haven't seen 'nevcairiel:'
00:21.46wobin_~seen nevcairiel
00:21.49purlnevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 2h 5m 55s) #wowace (2d 2h 5m 55s). Has said a total of 292 messages. Is idling for 1h 53m 56s, last said: 'if someone wants to play around with it .. svn doesnt forget the revisions :P'.
00:21.51nymbiawhereas with a local pool for your own purposes, you know exactly what frame properties need reset (for the most part)
00:22.17wobin_Mikma: Can you help me with BT3? =)
00:22.34Mikmawobin_: umm, i don't know :D
00:22.59wobin_I need to get an actionID from a bt3 button on mouseover
00:23.07wobin_How do I drill down to find it?
00:23.30Mikmaoh dear lord, umm. nevcairiel did it! /flee
00:25.16Mikmawobin_: http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/kamut/2649/20070404.gif <- does this help at all?
00:25.49Mikmawobin_: http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/garfield/1926/20070404.gif <- or this (it's alot better if you play tauren)
00:26.09chuckgIs there a way to remove a :SetScript?
00:26.10NeoTronnymbia: that resetting could be a function of the addon that manages sharing
00:26.12chuckgCan you nil it out?
00:26.12wobin_ta =P
00:26.20wobin_chuckg: Set it to nil
00:26.28NeoTronnymbia: perhaps it is not optimal or feasible
00:26.30NeoTronor worth the effort
00:26.37chuckgSo if I had "onmousedown" previously, and I nil it out, it won't catch the clicks anymore?
00:27.02ckknightyes, chuckg
00:27.06chuckgThanks.
00:28.45CIA-1103eternally777 * r31884 10SacredBuff/Libs/:
00:28.46CIA-11SacredBuff:
00:28.46CIA-11* Embedding DewdropLib
00:29.06Mikmaoh wow
00:29.26Mikmacopystring: gz on the stupid away-message
00:31.07CIA-1103eternally777 * r31885 10SacredBuff_Mounts/ (Libs/ SacredBuff_Mounts.toc):
00:31.07CIA-11SacredBuff_Mounts:
00:31.07CIA-11* Removing DewdropLib, since SacredBuff has it now
00:32.52chuckgHaha, got it kergoth!
00:32.52chuckg=D
00:32.53chuckgHmm, weird, it's still catching clicks.
00:32.54Mikmadisable mouse on it
00:32.56Mikmathen it won't :D
00:32.56chuckgOhh.
00:32.56chuckgYea, right!
00:34.26chuckg:)
00:38.27CIA-1103eternally777 * r31886 10SacredBuff/ (SacredBuff.lua SacredBuff.toc UI.lua):
00:38.28CIA-11SacredBuff:
00:38.28CIA-11* Updating TOC file to load DewdropLib
00:38.28CIA-11* Implemented a Dewdrop menu that allows the player to select which talent is represented by the Talent button
00:40.47Eternally777Updating SVN files over a cell phone ftl :-(  Sub-dialup speeds == GG.
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00:43.23CIA-1103nymbia * r31887 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
00:43.23CIA-11PT3Bar:
00:43.23CIA-11- Implemented item order reversing, thanks markf.
00:43.23CIA-11- Switch the throttled events to 2 seconds from 5.
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00:52.20Funkeh`lol?
00:52.26Funkeh`you get svn on a cell phone?
00:52.41Funkeh`technology these days
00:53.01Funkeh`its your fault nymbia
00:53.02Eternally777I tethered my laptop to my phone :-P
00:53.55Eternally777Funkeh`: Can you test out those changes when you get a chance?  I'm about to go on lunch break and I kinda just threw it together.
00:54.34Funkeh`doing some low level alt leveling wiht a friend but ill check that as soon as im on priest =p
00:54.37JoshBorkehola
00:55.50Eternally777Thanks.  I'll be back in a bit.
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00:58.07CIA-1103funkydude * r31888 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Attumen.lua WizardofOz.lua): BigWigs: Karazhan: frFR update, thanks to Arghan
01:00.02wobin_Blah
01:00.13wobin_There's about 4000 frames available on loading =P
01:00.30wobin_Thank god enumerateframes is stupidfast
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01:02.07Mikmawhat are you doing? exploding earth?
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01:06.37Gnarfozsounds like it
01:07.37chuckgI wonder if I should add moveFrames to the AceSVN.
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01:11.04wobin_fixing up various gonffbar problems
01:11.11wobin_in regards to finding actionbuttons
01:11.20wobin_when in fact, I'm going to just have to find 'button's
01:11.33wobin_since BT doesn't put Action in the button name =(
01:12.41wobin_I end up with a 600 entry table with button references
01:13.37chuckgEek.
01:20.24JoshBorkenymbia: ping
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01:21.57wobin_I wish we had optional patterns in luaregexp
01:31.48TecnoBrat70 dwarf priest with 150 days playtime: "you can use stoneform to get rid of poison?"
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01:42.22Funkeh`rofl
01:42.27Funkeh`some people ^^
01:42.56Funkeh`although today i discovered that VE is magic and have no idea when that happened, it used to be curse
01:43.38TecnoBratit did shortly after naxx came out
01:49.34CIA-1103funkydude * r31889 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/BigWigs_GruulAssist.lua: BigWigs_GruulAssist: cleanup
01:49.43Funkeh`strange
01:49.44Funkeh`i have no idea why
01:49.51Funkeh`its anoying that its dispellable now
01:50.06Funkeh`well, more than before
01:51.44CIA-1103pprovost * r31890 10PitBull/Layouts/Buu.lua: PitBull - Added Buu layout
01:52.03Chompers:D
01:52.17Chompersim gonna quit out of wow to install that now
01:52.20PProvostwhee!
01:52.24Chompersscrew this heroic
01:52.26NightHawkTheSanePProvost: screenie?
01:52.31PProvostOne sec...
01:52.38hyperChipmunkthere's no .toc update
01:52.43PProvostNot yet
01:52.47PProvostforgot that
01:52.47PProvost:)
01:52.54hyperChipmunkit's kind of useless w/o one =)
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01:54.56PProvostYepper. I originally had it in my own PitBull_Layouts mod and moved it over, but when I tested it I forgot to remove mine, so it looked like it worked.
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01:54.57PProvostOne sec.
01:56.41CIA-1103pprovost * r31891 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: PitBull - Added Buu.lua to toc.
01:58.05Bejitthmm the PeriodicTable-1.0 page links to BanzaiLib svn?
01:59.06PProvostHere's a screenie for PitBull\Buu.lua - http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4643/wowscrnshot040407015221fk3.jpg
01:59.29PProvostamong other things... :)
01:59.32Chompersnice ui
01:59.40PProvostThanks
01:59.56PProvostSolo it is just the stuff in the dashboard at the bottom.
01:59.59Chompersno ebb or ebbs :O
02:00.12PProvostebb? don't know it
02:00.15PProvostsplain
02:00.19mjcI prefer buffalo
02:00.23Chomperselkanos buff bars
02:00.23PProvostI like buffalo
02:01.23PProvostHappy with buffalo right now
02:01.23PProvostI'll take a look at ebb. Isnt' there a new one coming/came recently?
02:01.23NightHawkTheSanePProvost: hmm, nifty
02:01.23Chompersyeah, ebbs
02:01.23PProvostGood?
02:01.23Chompersits really really nice, sorta buggy though
02:01.23PProvostYou got a screenie for me? :)
02:01.25mjcPProvost: rather have pitbull_layouts than one in the main addon
02:01.27JoshBorkewhat's pitbull buu?
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02:01.33mjcJoshBorke: get with the program
02:01.44Chompershttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonreid/wow/1.jpg
02:01.48PProvostmjc, I was going that way but ckk said I should put it there.
02:01.52PProvostwhatever
02:02.03Chompersyeah, my ui is a total mess, but the old version of ebb is up the top right
02:02.09mjc~seen ckknight
02:03.08purlckknight <n=ckknight@198.199.136.146> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 36m 6s ago, saying: 'yes, chuckg '.
02:03.08PProvostOkay don't like that.
02:03.08PProvost:D
02:03.08mjchgoly mother of fuck
02:03.09mjcChompers: ew.
02:03.09Chompersaye
02:03.09PProvostDon't need bars on my buffs. Just need to know if they are up or not.
02:03.09JoshBorkesorry, i'm running slabs
02:03.09Chompersi still cant be arsed making it look flashy :/
02:03.09mjcJoshBorke: take a few minutes to explore new things on the svn once a week
02:03.09mjcyour efficiency will love you for it
02:03.13mjcChompers: Electroflux Textostronator or whatever
02:03.37Chomperswha?
02:03.41mjcon the svn
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02:03.47mjceasy way to make it look nice.
02:03.49JoshBorkemjc:  i wrote barfader :-P  what's buu?
02:04.00mjcJoshBorke: PProvost's look
02:04.15PProvostLook at the screenie I sent above. Buu is the one for 'player' at the bottom of the screenshot.
02:04.34JoshBorkeoh, the giant face?
02:04.36CIA-1103wobin * r31892 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar: Fix to broaden the filter for Actionbuttons by inserting a delay before scanning for them
02:04.37PProvostYes
02:04.39JoshBorkeok
02:05.02PProvostABF is my party layout and Buu is for player and target. Target goes in that black space on the right of the action bars
02:06.12PProvostBTW, Buu isn't mine. I copied the layout from aUF_Layouts
02:06.15wobin_buu?
02:06.16PProvost:D
02:06.32PProvostI have no idea where it originally came from
02:07.19PProvostI'll probably be slowly converting over more of the aUF_Layouts over the coming week or so.
02:07.20mjcugh
02:07.27PProvostIf anyone else wants to help, go for it.
02:07.32mjcPProvost: not your fault but something else is fucked up
02:07.53PProvostThe height width messiness?
02:08.04mjcyeahe.
02:08.13PProvostckk and I have been discussing that for three days now
02:08.27NightHawkTheSaneyou really need to have  good way to set height/width inside a layout
02:08.32PProvostI think a layout should be able to specify an x/y ratio when it gets applied.
02:08.49PProvostThe user may choose to override it if they want after, but when first applied I think it should be able to set it.
02:08.50NightHawkTheSaneyeah, basically.
02:09.01PProvostI'm pushing for a special funciton in the layout for that
02:09.06PProvostBut he hasn't added it yet
02:09.32PProvostI also want a logical coordinate system so I can stop all that vunit/hunit stuff in every function
02:09.39PProvostBut I don't think I'll get that. :)
02:09.42NightHawkTheSaneI'd be more likely just to hack in a frame:SetHeight or whatever into the layout. >.>
02:10.06PProvostmjc: use 90x120
02:10.28PProvostSure, I could do that. But that would be ugly and wouldn't let the user change it.
02:10.35PProvostSo... no
02:10.50NightHawkTheSanesee, that would imply i care about users. ;)
02:11.01PProvostAhhh... another one of those eh? :)
02:11.18mjcsomeone fix it dammit
02:11.58PProvostPatience... this is still a work in progress. Let me do a few more layouts to help ckk get the engine right
02:12.12PProvostThe only way to get a framework right is to use it
02:18.39ZealotOnAStickHmm.
02:19.04ZealotOnAStickI just got an idea for a fun, if not necessarily very useful, addon for cartographer.
02:19.17Chompershrm
02:19.25Chompersyou guys really think my interface is that bad?
02:19.30Chompers:<
02:19.42ZealotOnAStickwhat interface?  Imissed, link me.
02:20.13BejittZealotOnAStick: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonreid/wow/1.jpg
02:21.11ZealotOnAStickNah.
02:21.20ZealotOnAStickBut damage meters is evil, ditch that pos and get Sw_Stats.
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02:23.32Chompersanything else?
02:24.40PProvostIts not that bad Chompers. :)
02:24.47ZealotOnASticknot really.  Your overall layout isn't much removed from what I'm currently using.
02:24.53PProvostSeen much worse.
02:25.04ZealotOnAStickI'd like to get rid of a couple of bars, but until Splut or another Sprocket replacment actually happens . . .
02:25.25PProvostI like the bar3 alt/shift paging. does what I need
02:26.31ZealotOnAStickI could probably rid myself of 3 bars on screen, and just use those by keybindings . . .
02:26.40ZealotOnAStickbut I like having them ona button I can see for DrDamage info and stuff.
02:29.24PProvostI have actually made a pattern that lets me use the bar paging effectively between toons
02:30.23PProvostBar 1 is primary combat. Bar 2 (shift) is secondary combat (less often used stuff), Bar 3 (alt) is self buff/status/etc stuff like stances, shapes, mounts, lock armor, etc.
02:30.32PProvostThose are all on "bar 1" on screen
02:30.37PProvostThen bar 4 sits under that
02:30.44PProvostand pt3bar sits under that
02:30.59PProvostwith a 4 slot bar 5 next to pt3bar for a few more slots
02:31.15PProvostAs I said before, I use that same UI for 7 classes
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02:31.25PProvostNo changes
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03:07.22Anduneso I've noticed when I hover over an item in my character screen, my memory usage starts skyrocketing (goes from avg of 2-4kb/s to 171kb/s)
03:07.44Anduneteksupport shows it's the 'CharacterLegsSlot' timer...  how do I narrow that down to a specific mod that' scuasing the issue?
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03:16.38chuckgGet an application with recursive file search and search for that in your addons directory?
03:16.54AnduneI did.
03:16.57Andunegrep -ri
03:17.46Andune(no hits)
03:21.43chuckgTry just looking for LegSlot.
03:21.54chuckgOr CharacterLeg
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03:33.08CIA-1103morgalm * r31893 10MorgDKP/MorgDKP-deDE.lua:
03:33.08CIA-11MorgDKP:
03:33.08CIA-11- deDE translations thanks to Shady
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03:40.55Funkeh`lol
03:40.59Funkeh`5 manned ysondre
03:41.02Funkeh`38g ftw
03:41.12mjcheh.
03:41.15mjc38G per person?
03:41.19Funkeh`yeah
03:41.27Funkeh`5 manned ony also but only got around 15g
03:41.58mjcand an 18slot
03:41.58mjc:P
03:42.02Funkeh`yeah
03:42.05Funkeh`which i won !
03:42.11mjcgrats
03:42.14Funkeh`lol
03:42.49mjchmm. 87 fragmented files but there are red spots (fragments) all over this graph
03:42.54mjcmust be one big fuckin fragmented file somewhere
03:42.55mjclol
03:43.00Funkeh`lol
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03:43.18Funkeh`thats what mines like, it defragments for 1 seocnd and half the red disapears
03:43.18mjcto be fair, 250G drive with 225g used
03:43.36mjcnah this shit takes ages cause there's so many files
03:44.04mjchaven't done it since I installed the machine eight months ago
03:44.19mjconly rebooted twice too, save the random power outages.
03:52.30syerenckknight, your addon is going down amazingly ;p
03:52.50ckknightgoing down?
03:53.03xyulike a zeplin?
03:53.04Ominousgoing down?
03:53.11ckknightyour mom was going down on me last night
03:53.12Ominousit is working perfect atm
03:53.19syerenErmm, being acknowledged and accepted very well ;p
03:53.39syerenJust need to get rid of slider bars :(
03:53.47syerenOr do they actually work on 1240 resolutions?
03:53.56syerenBecause on anything past 2k, they're impossible :/
03:54.16ckknightslider bars?
03:54.25syerenFor posistions, liked width and scale.
03:54.33syerenI have to go into the LUA if I want something exact.
03:55.00hyperChipmunkyea, well everybody does that i think
03:55.11hyperChipmunkthe sliders never have the right value in any addon
03:55.28xyubartender has number boxes to input
03:55.30xyuwhich is nice
03:55.35syerenAm I able to edit the LUA while in game, or would that cause problems?
03:55.39syerenNumber boxes = win.
03:55.48hyperChipmunkno problems
03:56.18hyperChipmunkjust remember, if you're editing SVs, that reloading the UI will write a new SV file, overwriting your changes
03:56.43hyperChipmunkso either spam the save key while reloading, or log to charselect, then save your manual changes, then log back in
03:56.55syerenOki Doki ;p
03:57.23hyperChipmunkor you can use /script to change the variables directly in game, obviously
03:57.37syerenAll the addon needs now is debuff/buff options (size/scale,) and I will use it :)
04:00.17hyperChipmunkPProvost: your new layout is moronic
04:00.32xyuI can't wait for more layouts
04:00.42PProvostThanks for the helpful criticism man!
04:00.48hyperChipmunkit's like
04:01.21hyperChipmunk"lets take this nice big frame, paint 90% of it black, and cram two tiny little bars with the actual information in them"
04:01.30PProvostIt isn't MY layout. I am porting over the ones from aUF_Layouts. Don't like it, don't use it.
04:01.37hyperChipmunkwhat's the point of the giant black box?
04:01.47PProvostTurn on the portraits.
04:01.57hyperChipmunkbesides taking up tons of screenspace
04:02.08PProvostI will make it behave better if the portrait is missing, but that one is really designed for having the portrait turned on.
04:02.24hyperChipmunkhm...it's all stretchy
04:02.29PProvostYes.
04:02.35PProvostTalk to ckk about that. :)
04:02.54PProvostAnd as I said, I'm just porting over the ones from aUF_Layouts. Don't yell at me.
04:02.55hyperChipmunkis it supposed to be a different aspect?
04:02.59PProvostYes
04:03.01PProvost90x120
04:03.10PProvostBut there is no way for a layout to specify an aspect ratio
04:03.18hyperChipmunkah
04:03.24PProvostI'm working w/ ckk on that
04:03.27PProvostbrb
04:03.38hyperChipmunki'm still going to yell at you
04:03.49hyperChipmunkbecause you're a scumbag
04:12.57copystringMikma i know its stupid i try to disable it since 2 days >.<
04:14.15syerenhyperChipmunk, can you suggest an addon which can monitor my cooldowns without me using action bars?
04:14.42syerencoolDown duplicates all the cooldowns it displays everytime you enter / leave an instance.
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04:14.55syerenAnd CoolDown Timers2 is buggy as hell to configure :/
04:15.15hyperChipmunki use coolDown i think
04:15.35hyperChipmunkdo you zone in/out of instances so often that it's a problem?
04:15.51xyuwoo my rapidcast started working suddenly
04:15.58xyunot sure what i did
04:16.23syerenHyper, I'm in a high rated arena team ;p
04:16.30syerenAnd you can guess how many cooldowns I blow in the arena.
04:16.37syerenI end up with a fucking screenfull :(
04:17.03CIA-1103roartindon * r31894 10Aloft/: Aloft: Initial empty directory import. Nameplates addon
04:19.41xyuin Epeen: is there a way to turn off Auto KoS in arenas?  i'm being spammed w/ arena kos heh
04:19.44Andunewell with some creative grep'ing, I found the offender (re: crazy mem usage spike)
04:19.46AnduneClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua:            local gslot = _G["Character" .. slot.name .. "Slot"]
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04:22.14syerenOOoh.
04:22.18syerenI got some Pitbull Errors.
04:22.19syeren!!
04:23.04syerenckknight, would it be useful for me to post on trac?
04:23.05syerenI don't see any other posts there :p
04:23.25ckknightpossible.
04:23.27syeren[2007/04/05 05:13:10-561-x61]: PitBull-r31890\Aura\Aura.lua:268: attempt to index local 'debuff' (a nil value)
04:23.27syeren---
04:23.56syerenX61.
04:23.56syerenIn 2 seconds :p
04:23.56syerenDid 1042 in 20 seconds earlier in Gruuls.
04:24.22syerenHmm, where to post them :/
04:25.54syerenhttp://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/609#preview
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04:34.53Anduneckknight:  been playing around with pitbull (love what I see so far!) and I notice that ToT and ToToT frames don't seem to display while in combat
04:35.04ckknightuntrue
04:35.09Andunechecked the wiki and bug trackers, don't see mention of it..
04:35.23Chompersare they hidden?
04:35.32Chompersor rather, is hidden ticked
04:35.39Anduneno i see them fine when i target myself
04:35.51Andunejust not when i'm targeting this deranged helboar right in front of me atm
04:37.05Andunewell in any case sounds like it's unique to my setup then.  I'll poke around.
04:37.26Chomperswhat build?
04:37.37Anduner31890
04:38.10Chompersusing the buu layout ?
04:38.14Andunebtw works fine on other PCs too, looking at one now, seems to work good
04:38.24AnduneABF
04:46.00CIA-1103funkydude * r31895 10BigWigs/Azeroth/Onyxia.lua: BigWigs: Azeroth/Onyxia: tweaks & p1 message
04:46.51Anduneok seems to be related to running tekSupport
04:47.09Anduneworks fine without it, soon as I turn it on, ToT and ToToT stops working
04:47.15kergothunsurprising
04:49.04Andunewell glad to know it was just me.  that makes it easier to track down  :)
04:51.07CIA-1103eraslin * r31896 10DKPmon_ZSumAuction/ (localization.enUS.lua zsumauction.lua zsumsauction.lua): DKPmon_ZSumAuction: Add ability to remove a bidder from the list via control-clicking their name.
04:53.25CIA-1103eraslin * r31897 10DKPmon_ZSumAuction/zsumsauction.lua: DKPmon_ZSumAuction: Typo fix.
04:54.32CIA-1103eraslin * r31898 10Bidder_ZSumAuction/ (4 files): Bidder_ZSumAuction: Add ability to remove a bidder from the list via control-clicking their name.
05:04.44rophyhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5542.msg92270#msg92270
05:05.33syerenAnything you can do to fix that bug I posted ckknight, or not looked at it :P?
05:05.43ckknightbusy
05:05.57rophyIt seems like even if you disembedded the libraries, the tons of invalid TOC references are slowing down the loading process.
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05:07.23Funkeh`anyone know what combat event "soandso's spell was resisted by soandso" would come under
05:07.30ckknightthey'd slow down the process by roughly a few milliseconds, rophy
05:07.34ckknightit's easy to check if a file exists
05:07.39ckknightit doesn't create a block.
05:07.42rophyckknight: just read my post..
05:07.44rophyI did the test.
05:09.20hyperChipmunkFunkeh`: load up fireshow and cast some level 1 spells =)
05:09.34Funkeh`fireshow?
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05:10.01hyperChipmunklike the most ancient ace addon ever
05:10.07hyperChipmunkisn't it in the svn?
05:10.24hyperChipmunkaait echoes every event and its args
05:10.53hyperChipmunkit brings chatspam to new, unheard-of levels
05:11.15Funkeh`not on the svn
05:11.20Funkeh`any ideas where i can get it?
05:11.36Funkeh`nvm i see something in tags
05:12.00hyperChipmunkcheck the wiki for rowne's addons?
05:12.00hyperChipmunki  recall seeing something like that
05:12.51Funkeh`rofl
05:13.04Funkeh`it registers EVERYTHING :D
05:13.10hyperChipmunkyep
05:13.11CIA-1103eraslin * r31899 10DKPmon_FCZS/ (fczs.lua localization.enUS.lua): DKPmon_FCZS: Add ability to toggle on/off including disenchanted/banked item points in the zero-sum calculation.
05:13.18hyperChipmunkexcept for new stuff, obviously
05:13.25hyperChipmunkaddon's like 2 yr old
05:13.33Funkeh`hope it even works in 2.0 ..
05:13.43hyperChipmunkbut should have what you need
05:13.45hyperChipmunkmine does
05:14.03hyperChipmunki've modified it a million diff times though
05:14.14hyperChipmunkbut it isn't too complicated
05:14.37ckknightrophy: I say complain to slouken, tell him to make it faster :-P
05:14.43ckknightI don't want to deal with XML files
05:15.17Funkeh`i thought 2.0.12 was supposed to make xml files faster
05:15.30Funkeh`or is that 2.1? meh
05:16.22ckknight2.0.8
05:16.30ckknightbut it's not about making the xml faster
05:16.35ckknightI'm talking about making the toc faster
05:16.36CIA-1103eraslin * r31900 10DKPmon_FCZS/fczs.lua: DKPmon_FCZS: <sigh> late night coding = typos...
05:16.38ckknightwhen it can't find files
05:18.41hyperChipmunkpsh
05:18.45Funkeh`rophy: http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5889/sclpi4.jpg
05:18.45hyperChipmunk.toc's need wildcards
05:19.08hyperChipmunksrc/*
05:19.10hyperChipmunklibs/*
05:19.18hyperChipmunkbadabing badaboom
05:19.21hyperChipmunkno more restarting
05:19.57ckknightsrc\*.lua would be pure pimpness
05:20.16CIA-1103eraslin * r31901 10DKPmon_ZSumAuction/ (localization.enUS.lua zsumauction.lua zsumsauction.lua): DKPmon_ZSumAuction: Add ability to toggle on/off including disenchanted/banked item points in the zero-sum calculation.
05:20.21rophyinstead of asking slouken to fix this just for Ace2's 100 libraries. May be having a standard embeds.xml and let the disembedded zip in files.wowace.com comment out that line is easier.
05:20.47hyperChipmunkwhen i write my addons, i add like 50 files just in case
05:21.02Funkeh`rophy: i get that error periodically in bg's/instances, im guessing when a certain event is fired
05:21.05ckknight... lol?
05:21.09hyperChipmunki hate restarting while writing stuff
05:21.20rophyFunkeh`: i'll take a look at it.
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05:21.23ckknighthehe
05:21.26Funkeh`ty
05:21.54hyperChipmunkjust make file1.lua file2.lua, etc and just rename 'em to whatever they need to be the next time
05:22.44hyperChipmunktoo many times "shoot, need a localization.lua"
05:23.30hyperChipmunkand i know if i just throw it in the main, i'll never get around to moving it
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05:40.40trhthe best would be to make a "object" model first and then create the files :)
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05:49.15Funkeh`can you log chatboxes of different chatframes?
05:49.29Funkeh`a bit like /combatlog ?
05:50.35CIA-1103roartindon * r31902 10Aloft/ (. Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua Aloft.toc): Aloft: First commit of nameplate alteration tool. Still needs options/more bug fixing/etc.
05:54.31mjchttp://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=229483&cid=18612155
05:56.07hyperChipmunkoh, i'd just find something your own level and spam level 1 spells on it
05:56.07hyperChipmunkmis
06:01.23mjcThese three kids are sitting around talking about getting stuff for free. The first kid says "My dad's a doctor, so I can be sick for nothing." The second kid says "My dad's a teacher, so I can be smart for nothing." The third kid says "Well, my dad's a pastor, so I can be good for nothing."
06:01.32CIA-1103roartindon * r31903 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: A small change that may fix colouration of some status bars
06:01.41hyperChipmunkhaha
06:01.46trhhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg5_mlQOsUQ lol
06:02.24Funkeh`later
06:14.23CIA-1103next96 * r31904 10nQuestLog/modules/Comments.lua:
06:14.23CIA-11nQuestLog :
06:14.23CIA-11- Comments.lua
06:14.23CIA-11- Add locale koKR
06:14.40kergothRoartindon: hows aloft compare to shadowed's nameplates modifier?
06:14.59hyperChipmunklol he just imported it
06:16.09kergoth?
06:17.19Fisker-i.e. it probably not in a working state yet
06:20.43NightHawkTheSaneokay, fun question... anyone have a good way of getting two healthText strings?
06:20.54NightHawkTheSaneer
06:20.58NightHawkTheSanein PitBull i mean :D
06:21.08Arrowmasterlol 2am and were bored so we go try to kill azuregos for some gold with 9 people and failed because the tank is too well geared and cant get any rage to get threat
06:21.26NightHawkTheSaneTank should have gone with just dps gear; )
06:21.35Arrowmasterhe is now
06:21.49Arrowmasterits actually a pally on his roommates warrior
06:22.12Arrowmasterso hes not that great
06:22.52kergothFisker-: the question still remains.. what exactly does it or will it have to distinguish itself from the existing functional addon that does the same thing
06:25.20CIA-1103roartindon * r31905 10Aloft/ (Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua): Aloft: Added text size option for nameplates
06:25.40Roartindonkergoth: www.lim.com.au/wow/nameplates.jpg
06:26.13kergothnifty, moving the text onto the health bar, and letting you hide the annoying level text..
06:26.14kergothi like it
06:26.28hyperChipmunkoh that's neat
06:26.33kergothi did notice your externals are trying to pull acelocale-2.0 though
06:26.36kergothmight want to update that
06:26.43RoartindonAnd if you have Prat/Playernames.. it uses that database to colour all the bars
06:26.51Roartindonah shit.. acelocale 2-2
06:26.53RoartindonI'll fix that
06:26.58hyperChipmunkthat's really nice, roart
06:27.07NightHawkTheSanethat IS nice
06:27.14NightHawkTheSanealthough, I like the "annoying level text" myself. :)
06:27.17kergothhehe
06:27.59NightHawkTheSaneIf you could stick level and elite/nonelite status in there, it'd be great when pulling a group of mixed elite/nonelite mobs
06:28.13RoartindonI'll be adding options for various stuff later
06:28.20RoartindonThis is just first pass; I only started the addon a few hours ago
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06:29.11RoartindonThe other thing is that these bars stack WAY more densely than standard nameplates
06:31.15Fisker-Antiarc
06:31.18Fisker-you're doing it wrong
06:32.20CIA-1103roartindon * r31906 10Aloft/: Aloft: Fixed AceLocale-2.2 external
06:33.45kergothRoartindon: planning on making it use sharedmedialib for textures i presume? :)
06:34.19NightHawkTheSaneblarg. ckk really needs a good way to manipulate the base frame within a layout. ><
06:34.20Fisker-how can you even h4x the 3d world anyways?
06:34.36ckknightNightHawkTheSane: width/height ratio will be added
06:34.39ckknightwhat're you thinking?
06:34.53NightHawkTheSaneckknight: well, thats, good, but i'd also like a way to manipulate the background
06:35.11ckknightthat's doable within a layout now
06:35.17ckknightcreate a texture
06:35.24ckknightand then add the name to the extraFrames table
06:35.44NightHawkTheSanehmm, okay.
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06:36.18NightHawkTheSaneI assume I have to position said frame as well?
06:36.27kergothRoartindon: line 114: s/OnNameplateShow/self:OnNameplateShow/
06:36.29kergothRoartindon: :)
06:37.18Fisker-_icetrain
06:37.21Fisker-_neuron_
06:37.22Fisker-you fool
06:43.13Roartindonkergoth: ta :)
06:43.36Roartindonmust have had the line higlighted and accidentally deleted it
06:44.06kergothhehe
06:44.40Fisker-stop h4x0ring my wow :(
06:51.23CIA-1103roartindon * r31907 10Aloft/ (. Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua Aloft.toc): Aloft: Added health bar texture option, Added SharedMediaLib as a dependency/external
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07:11.27ZealotOnAStickRoartindon: nifty.  What's this going to do better/different than Nameplates Modifier (other than rid me of a Dongle instance and his silly seperate config addon)?
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07:14.21ckknightNameplates Modifier, eh?
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07:14.43ckknightRoartindon: want me to do an audit?
07:15.28Roartindonckknight: audit? :)
07:15.34ckknightcode audit
07:15.44Roartindonsure, any feedback appreciated :)
07:15.48kergothZealotOnAStick: same question i asked, see http://www.lim.com.au/wow/nameplates.jpg .. its sexy
07:15.49ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6852-Nameplatesmodifier.html
07:16.18Fisker-It looks like kergoth when he's just gotten out of bed
07:16.28RoartindonMy lua knowledge is so limiited compared to other programming languages :)
07:16.55SunTigerbut you can code lua whithout knowning a whole lot.
07:17.02RoartindonWell, I try :)
07:17.07ZealotOnAStickWell, with Nameplates, I keep the border on, put the health % on it with transparent background and just basically change the bar texture to LiteStep.
07:17.18ZealotOnAStickI'm not entirely sure I like the borderless, level-less look.
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07:20.44ckknightRoartindon: so you know, I may be doing some hacking
07:21.56RoartindonOkay
07:22.00NightHawkTheSaneckknight: Think you can add a border that's exactly the same as Hidden, but with insets set to 0? call it "full frame" or something?
07:22.03NightHawkTheSaneer, to pitbull
07:22.16NightHawkTheSanebah, i really must remember that people dont know what i'm thinking. >.>
07:22.21ckknightcomplex, cause that's part of the layout.
07:22.58NightHawkTheSaneckknight: how so? you've got 3 borders set up in PitBull.lua as it is, adding one more doesnt seem to be an issue?
07:23.14Roartindonckk: There are quite a few things that I planned to add still to it; I just committed it as a first pass for people to see/comment on
07:23.32ckknightNightHawkTheSane: completely different situation that you don't understand.
07:23.44ckknightat least I believe so
07:23.44RoartindonThere's quite a number of unused variables as a result atm from that too.. cleanup was going to be later
07:23.49ckknightunless I'm wrong
07:23.58ckknightRoartindon: I'm mostly doing optimization
07:24.41NightHawkTheSaneckknight: well, you're probably right that I don't understand, i certainly don't understand much. just thought i'd ask at least.
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07:25.06RoartindonCool, let me know what you change, so I can do it better next time :)
07:25.20ckknightNightHawkTheSane: the hidden one doesn't change with the insets changing, I believe
07:26.26NightHawkTheSaneckknight: well, PitBull:RegisterBorder() accepts an "inset" parameter, which determines how far the frame's bg is inset from the edge of the frame
07:26.47ckknightah /shrug
07:31.13hyperChipmunkNightHawkTheSane: there's a workaround
07:31.35hyperChipmunkif you pick a border, then put the border color to 0 opacity, you get exactly what you were looking
07:31.35NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: you mean aside from just tossing a PitBull:RegisterBorder() call in my layout file? :P
07:31.51hyperChipmunk+for
07:32.22hyperChipmunkwell, this in a generic sense
07:32.44hyperChipmunkworks with whatever
07:33.01NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: i dont think that really does what i want, though. That'd just be the same as hidden border, with whatever inset that border has specified, wouldnt it? Which isn't what i want. :P
07:33.03CIA-1103ckknight * r31908 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft - minor optimizations
07:33.30hyperChipmunkno
07:33.45hyperChipmunkit trims it precisely
07:34.36hyperChipmunki was quite pleased when i figured that out =)
07:35.30Roartindonckk: Where can I read about variable argument lists i lua? I've never properly understood them :) The fake_ipairs bit I don't fully get
07:35.52ckknightbefore, you were doing ipairs({ stuffs })
07:35.58Roartindonyep
07:35.59ckknightmine just reuses the same table over and over
07:37.21RoartindonAnd that's definitely quicker? I would have thought that the whole ipairs({ stuff }) would be mostly C code
07:37.24Fisker-CHEATER!
07:41.52kergothyou dont need a table for that iteration at all, you can use proper tail calls
07:43.59kergothhttp://ace.pastey.net/10422
07:44.03kergothor so
07:45.05kergothcourse you'd need an if select('#', ...) == 0 then return end to end the recursion
07:45.57RoartindonHmm.. on my computer, I did a timing test of 10,000 iterations of using ipairs, and using fake_ipairs, and fake_ipairs was 20% slower.......
07:47.05kergothi'd be curious as to the performance of http://ace.pastey.net/10425
07:48.04RoartindonI'll time it
07:48.30Roartindonwhat do lines 2-4 do?
07:48.42Roartindonlooks to me that it early exits if there ARE frames?
07:49.04kergotherm, that was supposed to be select('#', ...) == 0
07:49.06kergothhehe
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07:49.49Noekoegm
07:50.16Noekoeare there any raid frames for Pitbull?
07:51.25RoartindonI tested the ipairs thing.. with both the fake_ipairs first, and ipairs first, and ipairs is 10-15% faster every time.
07:51.28DynomNoekoe: not yet
07:51.46kergothRoartindon: thats expected, and the ipairs version generates a shitload of garbage
07:51.52kergothRoartindon: its a memory usage vs cpu usage tradeoff.
07:51.56ZealotOnAStickNoekoe: yes, they're jsut a bit of a pain to arrange, as there's no grouping for them yet (last I checked, anyway, which was more than an hour ago, so that might have changed)
07:52.00Fisker-there are pitbull raid frames
07:52.11Fisker-I like grid though
07:52.14Fisker-so i just disabled them all
07:52.29Noekoeill go AV and recheck
07:52.35Roartindonah, I see
07:52.40ZealotOnAStickNoekoe: just enable configuration mode.
07:52.56Noekoehm ok
07:52.59Noekoelemme find that
07:53.00kergothRoartindon: remember that each {} is a table constructor, a new memory allocation
07:53.15ZealotOnAStick(which, btw ckknight, is damn nice to see)
07:53.28Noekoegd that nice!
07:53.34Fisker-Antiarc
07:53.38Noekoei alrdy see pitbull going to pwn :P
07:53.38Fisker-you're doing it wrong
07:54.18Roartindonkergoth: I guess the bit that I'm not sure about is how lua internally returns its list of parameters
07:54.40RoartindonIt's child1, child2, child3, child4... etc.. but is that stored as a table internally?
07:54.43kergoth... is a statement that gives near direct access to the call stack for the arguments.  it isnt a table internally
07:54.59RoartindonCan ... just be iterated then?
07:55.05RoartindonWithout being recursed?
07:55.15kergothfor i=1,select('#', ...) do
07:55.26kergothlocal frame = select(i, ...)
07:55.27kergothend
07:55.30Roartindonyep yep
07:55.31RoartindonI'll try that
07:55.53sedatedChipmunkthat's interesting
07:56.02sedatedChipmunkwhere'd you pull that from?
07:56.08kergoth?
07:56.18Fisker-his ass hehe
07:56.48sedatedChipmunkjust an interesting way to do it; i like it
07:57.15kergothwhat, the for loop? thats common sense, thats the main means of iterative over varargs
07:57.24sedatedChipmunkyea i know
07:57.31sedatedChipmunkthat's what i'm trying to get at
07:57.51kergothargh, i upgraded my guild's forum from phpbb2 to phpbb3 beta
07:57.57sedatedChipmunkit seems so retardedly simple, but for some reason it just seems interesting when written that way
07:57.59kergothmy main user is a member of the administrators group
07:58.09kergothneither kergoth or the administrators group can change what administrators have access to
07:58.13sedatedChipmunkmaybe cuz it's 4am
07:58.16kergothand the administrators group is missing access to a few things
07:58.31kergothso i dont have the rights to give myself the necessary rights.
07:58.33kergothcatch 22 ftl
07:58.43sedatedChipmunkhehe
07:59.47sedatedChipmunknight, guys
07:59.48ZealotOnASticktime to go edit the db, then.
08:00.00ZealotOnAStickjust backup first.
08:00.22kergothyea, need to learn the schema first, its a bit of a maze in there :)
08:00.25ZealotOnAStickI despise phpbb, by and large.  Is 3 not crap?
08:00.45ckknightfuck php.
08:00.54ckknightfuck it right in the ear.
08:01.00kergoth3 is much improved, the permissions system is actually somewhat sane.  you have groups and users and roles and rights to assign... none of this "this forum is public/private/foo" in addition to a hacked in perms system
08:01.10kergothjust one way to do it
08:02.14Healthckknight: what's wrong?
08:02.32ckknightI just don't like php for a lot of reasons
08:02.52Fisker-http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26342&start=650 <-not that fond of their new style though
08:04.24Roartindonk
08:04.34RoartindonKergoth - I tested the #select loop
08:04.40Roartindonand it comes in at 10% faster than the ipairs
08:04.49RoartindonI assume it doesn't have the garbage collection issue of ipairs?
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08:05.26Roartindonhmm.. looks like I missed him by a couple of minutes
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08:06.17Roartindonckknight: any comments? :)
08:06.38ckknightbasically, ... is a tuple
08:06.41ckknightnot a table
08:06.51ckknightso it takes less memory overall
08:06.58RoartindonSo it doesn't have the memory, and is faster.. I should use that then?
08:07.08ckknightwell, yes.
08:07.12ckknightthat'd seem obvious to me
08:07.27ckknightalso, do a local select = select at the top
08:07.29ckknightmakes things faster
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08:11.59CIA-1103roartindon * r31909 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Now uses an InterateChildFrames(...) method to eliminate the need for a temporary or transient table to process WorldFrame:GetChildFrames()
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08:19.41[Ammo]morning
08:19.52Anduneany idea what mod show(ed?) item level?  I had it before and it's gone now..  or did blizz whack that feature in a recent patch?
08:20.14ZealotOnAStickmultiple ones will do it now.
08:20.14[Ammo]mendeleev
08:20.18[Ammo]for instance
08:20.23cncfanaticsgiev working wow ! :'(
08:20.33cncfanaticsdamn last patch fucked up wow under linux
08:20.35ZealotOnAStickmendeleev, and ItemLevel, and Warmath . . .
08:20.36AnduneI use KC_Items, and I had it before.
08:20.49Andunedon't think I was using one of the others, but I'll give 'em a try.  thanks..
08:20.51ZealotOnAStickand, let's see . . .  Possibly Bonuses, though I'm not positive there.
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08:32.06Silviu-Anyone know what and where u get reputation with this "Ashtongue Deathsworn" ? ;)
08:32.36ZealotOnAStickHahahahahahahahaha
08:33.17cncfanaticsSilviu-, in the new april's zone
08:33.28cncfanaticsits between silvermoon & hellfire
08:33.37Silviu-o.O ;)
08:35.36cncfanaticsanyone knows if uiquery was fixed lately ?
08:35.39cncfanaticsit used to be buggy ?
08:38.36[Ammo]cncfanatics: check the svn log :)
08:39.11cncfanatics[Ammo],good idea hhe
08:40.56cncfanaticsbah, I want to play !
08:44.14ZealotOnAStickoh.  Despite Bleach getting weirdish lately, the Shinigami Goldens are some of the funniest ever.
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08:52.46ckknightI figure Jack Bauer would've needed to urinate by now
08:52.50ckknightguess I was wrong
08:55.19krka1) he could do it on one of the 5 minute commercial breaks
08:55.40krka2) only women need to urinate every 2 hours
08:58.03NickenyfikenHe's running around so much so he sweat out all the urine :-P
09:00.10FISKER_QSilviu- in shadowmoon valley
09:02.11Dynom24 started to get boring halfway season two imo
09:07.22ckknightwas he taking a nap?
09:07.41ckknight24: S02E13: Jack Bauer needs naptime
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09:10.36FISKER_Q24 was never funny!
09:10.41FISKER_Qor good
09:10.43FISKER_Qor anything
09:11.24CIA-1103roartindon * r31910 10Aloft/ (Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua): Aloft: Added raid icon placement options, and the elite icon that I haven't been able to test yet...
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09:14.19Solehih
09:22.16DynomAhh yes.. summertime http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/12422/a7c58638/index.html
09:24.38Solebeautiful
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09:39.10CIA-1103jayrox * r31911 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc Localization.lua): FuBar_VampwatchFu: made load on demand, made the tool-tip prettier, removed some localizations that weren't needed anymore
09:43.01Noekoewould it be possible to add a option to Pitbull to show buffs inside raid frame?
09:44.40ckknighttheoretically, it'd be defined in the layout
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09:50.35Oridanmorning all
09:51.39Oridanahh crap
09:51.54Oridanjust updated pt3, but forgot to make a copy of mine first :@
09:52.19Oridanahh dont panic dont panic
09:52.26Oridantheres a pastey lying around somewhere
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09:59.19FISKER_Qlol
09:59.27FISKER_Qthat was the stupidest anti-bot feature i have seen
09:59.36FISKER_Q"Well your password isn't that complex, you must be a robot"
09:59.51ckknight?
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10:01.11FISKER_QI would figure that bot would be having an easier time remembering a complex password than a human would
10:01.11FISKER_Qs/that/that a/
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10:07.10Dynoms/ /__/g
10:07.32Dynoms/\/\\\\/g
10:07.43Dynomoh ups
10:07.47Dynoms/\//\\\\/g
10:08.16Dynoms/\//\\/
10:08.23Dynom:-(
10:09.41DynomFISKER_Q: well, technically a robot doesn't remember like we do (yet); and use their memory far more efficient then we do
10:10.00Dynomluckely
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10:12.27Oridanwhats the next stage "sorry, your password cannot be compressed over 80%, try a different one.. one like "aaaaaaa". yes "aaaaaa" is very compressable, your password is now "aaaaaa". kthxbye
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10:20.45Oridan~seen nymbia
10:21.15purlnymbia is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 11h 14m 52s) #wowace (1d 11h 14m 52s). Has said a total of 60 messages. Is idling for 9h 59m 24s, last said: 'whereas with a local pool for your own purposes, you know exactly what frame properties need reset (for the most part)'.
10:24.12Oridannymbia> updated conjure detection, and merged with latest revision (with worst to best option) --http://ace.pastey.net/10446
10:27.39Oridannymbia> i also changed the ordering, since if theres no items of that type, then theres no point in doing the value comparison
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10:50.35CIA-1103rabbit * r31912 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua: ClosetGnome_OhNoes: Don't unequip stuff if the player is FD'ing.
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10:52.16Phatrikzomg PitBull partytargets gets stuck to my cursor :C
10:52.35ckknightyour mom got stuck to my "cursor" last night
10:53.59Phatriksmall and pointy
10:55.06ckknightno need for self-deprecation, Phatrik
10:55.48Phatrik-_-
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11:07.42bindianyone here working on sorrentimers?
11:09.27vhaarrI think only sorren does, and I've never seen him on irc
11:09.36bindik :<
11:09.43bindiforumpost it is
11:09.47Mikma~seen sorren
11:10.30purli haven't seen 'sorren', Mikma
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11:22.49DhragaAfternoon all
11:25.39Gngskmornin'
11:25.55FISKER_Qif i was an idiot is there any easy way to undelete a file in linux?
11:26.28MikmaFISKER_Q: no. if you deleted it, it's gone.
11:27.07FISKER_Qoh noes
11:28.19[Ammo]well
11:28.31[Ammo]technically only the toc entry is removed
11:28.34[Ammo]so you could get it back
11:28.45[Ammo]but there are chances the blocks are overwritten already
11:29.01FISKER_Qwasn't anything important
11:29.13FISKER_Qwas just if it had a recycle bin-like approach like windows
11:29.27FISKER_Qso i might've been able to just simply type some command and it would fetch it
11:29.40_neuron_it does, but not on console
11:29.47FISKER_QBut it was just a file from the phpbb boards so i just unzipped the file again
11:30.04FISKER_Qbtw _neuron_ you fool
11:30.10Mikmahttp://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/sinfest/2384/20070405.gif
11:30.15FISKER_QPut in auto-add locs to cartographer_waypoints
11:30.17FISKER_Qor something
11:30.25FISKER_Qi need it :o
11:30.43FISKER_Qlol Mikma
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11:32.17FISKER_QShit really hit the fan when it turns out i'm the most competent person in our guild to run a website :P
11:32.23FISKER_QAMIRITE?
11:32.54_neuron_lmao
11:32.55_neuron_yes
11:32.56_neuron_defenatly
11:38.39DynomMikma: that one is funny for a change
11:40.00wobin_oh wow
11:40.04wobin_total win http://www.88by31.com/flashman/thepeoplesmario.swf
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11:47.16Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/mob1.jpg
11:47.20Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/mob2.jpg
11:47.51FISKER_Qrawr Mikma
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11:48.15FISKER_Qwhere is that?
11:48.26Mikmahmm
11:48.35Mikmanear aushindondandin or something
11:48.41Mikmatomb of light or so
11:49.01Mikmait's the deserted place near shattrath
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11:50.42FISKER_Qoh yeah
11:50.46FISKER_Qi remember it now
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11:59.25FISKER_QAntiarc i would like to subscribe to your newsletter
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12:02.26FISKER_Q~seen Antiarc
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12:16.04FISKER_QYOUR NEWSLETTAR Antiarc !
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12:21.50Dustwhisperany ACE2 addon that will show time left on Scorch debuff and also enemy castbar and other cooldowns? Like Natur's enemy castbar ?
12:22.34FISKER_QHas Blizzard disabled the abillity to retrieve stuff through the xml feeds in the armory?
12:22.49GngskDustwhisper, chronometer and antagonist
12:23.57Dustwhisperwhich does what`?
12:25.41Dustwhispernevermind =)
12:25.41Dustwhisperi can read just as anyone else
12:25.41Dustwhisperthank you
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13:01.48frank83xis there any lib to display messages on screen? like the way SCT displays its static messages
13:02.09frank83xor the way the default UI displays its errors like "spell not ready"
13:02.20[Ammo]no need for a lib :
13:02.28frank83xooh
13:02.36[Ammo]just create a MessageFrame
13:02.45[Ammo]and do: MessageFrame:AddMessage( "ZOMG!")
13:02.46[Ammo]done
13:02.55[Ammo]or you can use the ui errors frame
13:02.58[Ammo]or the raidwarning frame
13:03.19[Ammo]./script RaidWarningFrame:AddMessage("OH NOES")
13:03.24[Ammo]iirc
13:03.24frank83xaah ok
13:03.37frank83xthanks
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13:14.29FISKER_QAnyone wanna join in on raping Antiarc?
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13:15.35kenlyricas reward or punishment?
13:15.40FISKER_Qboth
13:16.01[dRaCo]how do I enable debuff priority for pitbull's aura frames?
13:16.44[Ammo]draco if the option can not be found in the menu then it's not there.
13:17.00[Ammo]if you have not checked the menu, then you should do so first
13:19.17[dRaCo]I did
13:19.34[dRaCo]was wondering because someone mentioned it earlier
13:21.02xyui thought i saw an option
13:21.25xyui may be confusing it w/ split though.
13:23.52[dRaCo]There's split, yeah. but it takes to much space
13:25.43xyuactually
13:25.44xyuwhat about
13:25.58xyuOptions -> PLayer -> Auras -> Filter -> enable filtering
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13:27.00xyuThere are also Aura Layouts to specify how many rows/columns
13:27.38[dRaCo]filtering is something else
13:27.53[dRaCo]hides all buffs and debuffs i cant cast or cure
13:28.15xyunah go to this
13:28.34xyuOptions > player > Auras > aura layouts > prioritise buffs > check prioritise debuffs
13:29.43xyuoops the option Prioritise buffs = "Buffs"  no prioritise
13:29.43harldephinlol
13:30.16[dRaCo]works only for my buffs :/
13:32.30Gagorian.
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13:35.25Grollkaratefylla on it's way :D:D
13:43.46FISKER_Qanyone know if Crusader aura works on the turtle mount?
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13:45.04Sarozit should
13:46.50sbi:D
13:47.00sbiturtle on steroids
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13:54.46xyubah lightheaded used to work with questsfu, but not anylonger ;(
13:54.46clad|sicki think it just needs the new version of LH
13:54.46clad|sick'
13:54.46JoshBorkepurl, comfort clad
13:54.58purlThere, there, clad.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
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14:01.20Daemonackknight are you there? i got a matter with pitbull, i keep getting a unitframe in the center of my screen, not clickable, not movable and when i query the frame name via commandline and mouseover i get worldframe :X
14:02.20Daemonaand /focus doesnt clear the focus frame and hides it :X
14:02.43vodrintry going into config options
14:02.53vodrinput configuration mode on raid
14:02.59Hjaltecould someone try and say my name, i want to test this irc client :)
14:03.00vodrinand see if anything appears there
14:03.05vodrinHjalte, hi
14:03.36Daemonauhm its a duplicate target frame WTF :/
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14:04.16HjalteIt didnt alert me of anything. Bah. But thanks vodrin.
14:04.19vodrinsure its not focustarget ?
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14:04.48Silviu-Hjalte
14:04.51Silviu-:)
14:05.05Daemonauhm its focus :X
14:05.07Daemonastrange
14:05.12Daemonawill hide it manually then
14:06.12Daemonawell whats more strange is
14:06.23Daemonaif i go out of config mode
14:06.30HjalteSilviu-, could you try again? :)
14:06.33SarozAnyone having problems with RatingBuster?
14:07.01Daemonathe focus target switches to my target when i change target ;)
14:11.09Silviu-Hjalte hello :)
14:12.08HjalteIt's getting better :) Does anyone know if mirc on windows can blink in my proces line, if eg someone says anything with my name in it?
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14:16.06GngskHjalte, have a look at http://mircscripts.org/comments.php?cid=2479
14:16.11Gngskcan prolly use that for your purpose
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14:17.46Mikmawaddup puppies
14:18.40Gngsknot much
14:18.54Gngskjust cancelled my credit card cuz I thought it was stolen, but it turns out my lil brother had it
14:19.07Gngskfucker went on a spending spree too
14:19.22[Ammo]break his knees
14:19.25[Ammo]mafia style
14:19.30Gngskheh
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14:21.08CIA-1103joshborke * r31913 10PitBull_CombatFader/ (. PitBull_CombatFader.lua PitBull_CombatFader.toc libs/):
14:21.08CIA-11PitBull_CombatFader:
14:21.08CIA-11- initial import
14:21.08CIA-11- allows you to set the alpha on all the frames based on the players combat status.
14:21.08CIA-11- each frame can have it's own alpha level and you can set the time it takes to fade.
14:21.24HjalteGngsk, looks nice :)
14:22.36GngskHjalte, never used it myself. that page has some comments from users though that you might find useful
14:24.25FISKER_Qi want to kill you all!
14:24.35JoshBorkeFISKER_Q: why?
14:24.46Mikmahe's just an angrybot
14:24.48Mikmadon't mind him
14:25.00JoshBorkemikma:  k.  are you done bitching?
14:25.12FISKER_Qdunno
14:25.46FISKER_Qi find it funny how some opensource projects offers fee-based installation
14:25.57FISKER_QLook we made this complex software available for free
14:26.19FISKER_QBut we'll take 50$ for cp -R software /var/www/software and then go to the site
14:26.20FISKER_Q:P
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14:29.12StephmwFISKER_Q: they're just subsidising the 10% where cp -R also involves fixing obscure apache/libc errors
14:29.24Jenssvn.wowave.com == 403 VERBOTEN!
14:29.39Stephmwwowave?
14:29.43Jensace even
14:30.09JensDid I miss some memo?
14:30.42harl|CharmedoO
14:31.06FISKER_Qheh probably Stephmw :P
14:31.11JoshBorkeJens: did you add svn.wowace.com/wowace/?
14:31.16JoshBorkeor try, whatever
14:31.20MikmaJoshBorke: no, code some addons and stfu noob
14:31.32JoshBorkemikma:  didn't you see my last commit? stfu
14:31.32Jenshttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/ == 404
14:31.40MikmaJoshBorke: it sucked, do it better!
14:31.45harl|Charmedmoo
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14:32.02Mikmaok a question. anyone tried the Buu's layout?
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14:32.05JoshBorkemikma:  like what?
14:32.16JoshBorkeJens: sounds like a problem
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14:32.26JensIndeed... but where?
14:32.29MikmaJoshBorke: like addon that plays my game so i don't have to
14:32.32JoshBorkejens:  do you have svn.wowace.com changed locally?
14:32.37JoshBorkeMikma:  look up WhoMod
14:32.39JJSheetsmikma, you lazy bastard
14:32.50JensNot that I know of. I haven't changed anything SVN related in a long time.
14:33.13JensJust did "svn up *" like I do once in a while.
14:33.47JensD:\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns>svn up *
14:33.47JensFetching external item into 'ag_UnitFrames\libs\AceEvent-2.0'
14:33.47Jenssvn: PROPFIND request failed on '/'
14:33.47Jenssvn: PROPFIND of '/': 403 Forbidden (http://svn.wowace.com)
14:33.50MikmaBITCH-E-MART -> later
14:33.58harl|Charmedwhat about pitbull's player's target's buffs. they're just.. there somewhere, just not below the player's target's frame where they should be. should i delete the savedvariables and reconfigure or something ?
14:34.20deltronharl|Charmed: the pitbull gods are working on that issue heh
14:34.45harl|Charmedin that case i haven't said anything.
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14:36.16JoshBorkejens:  when was the last time you updated?
14:36.22deltronyeah I don't get buffs to show up on my party members now either
14:36.23deltron*shrug*
14:36.30JensHmm... about a week ago I think.
14:36.44JoshBorkehrm.  dunno then
14:36.57JoshBorkei can't actually check since i have svn.wowace.com redirected to my local server
14:37.21JensI'm trying to redirect svn.wowace.com to dev.wowace.com locally, since that works fine for me.
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14:38.10PProvostckknight, ping
14:41.01JensHmm... I got a new ISP last week... I can't remember if I've updated since then, but maybe something is related to that.
14:41.08JensThis is highly uninteresting.
14:41.12CIA-1103fenlis * r31914 10GlobalStrings/GlobalStrings-2.0.12-koKR.lua:
14:41.12CIA-11GlobalStrings :
14:41.12CIA-11<PROTECTED>
14:41.40JensDoesn't make sense that I would get random 403 and 404 errors due to that.
14:43.06Gngskanyone here using the delayed queue option for battlegrounds with automaton?
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14:49.27Nickenyfikenhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=23234
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14:54.02sbibananas!
14:54.03Funkeh`hi
14:58.00FISKER_QStand and fight Nickenyfiken
15:16.06deltronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=air+force+trip+wire
15:16.09deltronheh check that out
15:16.46deltronI found that last night
15:18.04JoshBorkedeltron: wtf is that?
15:18.11JoshBorkenpc's for rooftop campers?
15:18.34deltronI'm not sure
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15:18.47deltronI bet it's the perimiter around the flight paths
15:21.57CIA-1103fenlis * r31915 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua:
15:21.57CIA-11ItemBonusLib :
15:21.57CIA-11<PROTECTED>
15:22.31CIA-1103fenlis * r31916 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
15:22.31CIA-11StatLogicLib:
15:22.32CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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15:29.19CIA-1103gamefaq * r31917 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-deDE.lua: Bartender3: deDE Update
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15:31.04shieldbhmm.. any chance of bigwigs/nightbane also starting a fear warning bar when nightbane is engaged instead of waiting for the first fear?
15:31.16shieldbRight now I'm doing it by hand but it'd be nice not to have to do that ;)
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15:38.18RLD_osxhas anyone seen an adddon that will do a who or add them to your friends list if you right click on their handle in the chat frame?
15:38.56shieldbRLD_osx, I'm not sure about the friends list thing, but you can shift + left click to do a /who on someone in chat
15:40.06Ordogor use WIM -.-
15:40.25shieldbthat only works if you're already chatting with the person
15:40.30sbifast question: which event should i listen for to know when a counterspell successfully interrupts a cast?
15:41.14RLD_osxI use whodat and that works great for their 1st unsolicted whiper to me. but I'd like to see a menu item for both who and add to friends list.
15:41.56FISKER_Qhehe
15:42.02FISKER_Qsouth park > Antiarc
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15:44.51RLD_osxgrrrrr ... droprate for essence of fire is pitiful... 1 in  2 hrs
15:44.57shieldbsbi, UNIT_SPELLCAST_INTERRUPTED ?
15:45.14CIA-1103funkydude * r31918 10Transcriptor/ (. Core.lua): Transcriptor: log CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CREATURE_VS_SELF_DAMAGE and CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CREATURE_VS_PARTY_DAMAGE
15:45.48sbishieldb: well, i want to check if _my_ counterspell interrupted the cast, is it possible?
15:48.28sbii hate the event system :(
15:48.36shieldbhmmm
15:50.12sbii should be missing something, for what i've seen, there is no way i can check if my cspell interrupted a cast :/
15:50.49sbisounds weird, isn't the combat log reporting something like "your cspell interrupts XXX CAST" ?
15:53.17sbianyone playing a mage can check?
15:54.08shieldbsbi, it's "You interrupt Mob Name's SpellName" I think
15:55.00sbishieldb: well, so the event system seems to support my idea..
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15:55.31CIA-1103funkydude * r31919 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (6 files in 6 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Item/Loot update
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15:57.53shieldbsbi, http://oregonstate.edu/~shieldbe/combatlog.jpg
15:58.19sbishieldb: many thanks :)
15:58.30shieldbother then the fact that interrupting a spellcast at the end of the cast doesn't always work ;)
15:58.45[Ammo]that's lag
15:58.49shieldbyeah
15:59.05[Ammo]use RapidCast to view your lag compensated castbar
15:59.16[Ammo]no idea how it looks because I don't us eit
15:59.23shieldbit's just fun to see the combat log go "You interrupt them" "Their spell hits you" "Their spell debuffs you" "Your interrupt does damage" in that order
15:59.25[Ammo]I have 50ms to my server which is basically lagfree
15:59.36FISKER_Qroar roar
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16:00.26sbieheh, i switched provider, i got 8Mbit less bwidth, 300ms more latency, 30euros more/month
16:00.31sbii was lucky :>
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16:01.43CIA-1103chuckg * r31920 10SpellWatch/SpellWatch.toc:
16:01.43CIA-11SpellWatch:
16:01.43CIA-11- OptionalDeps
16:02.09shieldb[Ammo], hey if you're here any chance you could make the change re: nightbane on bigwigs? ;)
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16:05.59[Ammo]what change?
16:06.03[Ammo]and probably: no
16:06.08[Ammo]since that's my default answer
16:06.14[Ammo]without explanation my answer is no
16:06.16shieldbkick up a fear warning bar on engage, not just on the first fear ;)
16:06.38[Ammo]depends if you have prove on the length of the fear
16:06.45[Ammo]and if it is from landing or engage
16:06.47[Ammo]anyway
16:06.52[Ammo]more info -> better support
16:07.33shieldbI do a 30 second bar from when he first lands by hand for our tank and that's been working well
16:07.48shieldbis the engage when you trigger him, not him landing?
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16:09.18CIA-1103elkano * r31921 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua):
16:09.18CIA-11ElkBuffBars
16:09.18CIA-11- bugfixes
16:10.30Kemayoxyu: Yeah, QuestsFu just needs the newest version of LightHeaded.
16:11.33FISKER_Qgood joke Elkano
16:12.33vhaarrcan someone tell me why the fuck DMM records time since last action with tenths of a second precision and updates the tooltip continously?
16:12.42vhaarrgod this piece of shit is driving me nuts
16:12.46vhaarrmaybe I should finish violation
16:14.06Chomperswhat are your plans for it?
16:15.32vhaarrhover yourself in the DMM list and tell me what happens to your increasing rate
16:15.54vhaarrhow THE FUCK do you produce 11.5 KiB of garbage per SECOND
16:16.06vhaarrnot even parserlib does that
16:16.08vhaarrever
16:16.25Gnarfozdo better
16:16.52CIA-1103funkydude * r31922 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/BigWigs_GruulAssist.lua: BigWigs_GruulAssist: tweaks
16:17.06vhaarrGnarfoz: who should do what better?
16:17.28Gnarfozyou shoud create a better damage meter that gets the same widespread adoption like DMM
16:17.33Gnarfozor shut the fuck up ^^
16:17.46CIA-1103mikk * r31923 10CraftList/CraftList.lua:
16:17.46CIA-11CraftList:
16:17.46CIA-11- Suppress error returns and "nothing found" messages when querying via public channels (guild chat)
16:17.52deltronDMM?
16:17.57Gnarfozdamagemeters
16:18.15vhaarrGnarfoz: yeah, like the current author ever did anything to increase its popularity, he's just fucking the code even more
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16:18.21vhaarrGnarfoz: and I DID create a damage meter addon
16:18.25Gnarfozi know
16:18.25Chompersdoes violation have a gui yet?
16:18.26vhaarrso YOU shut the fuck up
16:18.29Gnarfozit just sucks ^^
16:18.47CIA-1103funkydude * r31924 10BigWigs/Azeroth/Ysondre.lua:
16:18.48CIA-11BigWigs: Azeroth/Ysondre:
16:18.48CIA-11- warn for druids
16:18.48CIA-11- scan for resists of noxious breath
16:18.48CIA-11- sync
16:18.58Gnarfozcontinous updating was made optional and default disabled quite some time ago in DMM, IIRC. and if you have to keep your cursor where it shows the tooltip JUST to see that... why are you doing that? -.-
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16:19.34vhaarrviolation doesn't suck, it's just not finished
16:19.39vhaarrthose are two quite different states
16:20.32GnarfozI can agree on that
16:20.32vhaarrgod you're a fucktard
16:20.32Gnarfozheh
16:20.50Gnarfozkeep on ranting then ;D
16:21.05vhaarrI'm done for now :)
16:22.31TecnoBratdoes anyone know of good dkp site software, besides eqdkp
16:22.47FISKER_Qeqdkp!
16:22.48TecnoBratideally something with an addon that you can import attendance, etc
16:23.01shieldbboo dkp
16:23.36TecnoBratwell .. we are actually trying to use a system that is more attendance / loot council based
16:23.48TecnoBratbut we need a way to track attendance
16:23.54FISKER_Qboo loot council
16:24.02FISKER_Qand eqdkp already does that
16:25.07TecnoBratI realise, however some of the officers dont like eqdkp for some reason
16:25.12TecnoBrathense why I was looking for an alt
16:25.31FISKER_QAwesome argumenting
16:25.33FISKER_Qvhaarr
16:25.37FISKER_Qi don't like you
16:25.39FISKER_Qand you should feel bad
16:25.43FISKER_QNow /wrists
16:25.56TecnoBratlol
16:26.00vhaarrFISKER_Q: lol
16:26.09TecnoBratDKPmon works well with eqdkp tho?
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16:26.58sbii hate dkp systems :(
16:27.16TecnoBratsbi, why?
16:27.20Chomperswhat do you use dkp for?
16:27.34Chompersim your guild, is it ssc?
16:27.38Chompers*in
16:27.41sbiTecnoBrat: we use to let the gm chose who takes what
16:27.48TecnoBratWe don't really want to use DKP
16:27.52sbiTecnoBrat: or just the raid leader
16:27.58HealthHeya
16:28.11TecnoBratWe want to track attendance, and assign loot
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16:28.24TecnoBratWe wont be using it for anything close to a dkp system
16:28.35sbiTecnoBrat: how many people in your guild?
16:28.40Healthno one working on pitbull barfade present?
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16:29.53TecnoBratsbi, about 60-70 I think
16:33.06NeoTronme: "Don't run to the tunnel when we're about to wipe."
16:33.10NeoTronothers: "Ok!"
16:33.21NeoTron<wipe close> 5 people runs to the tunnel. Prince bugs
16:33.23NeoTrongrr
16:33.44sbiNeoTron: shut down the light at the end of the tunnel before pulling =)
16:33.57sbi"i see the light"
16:34.13Chompersremove the move keys from their keyboards
16:34.24Chompersor remove their fingers
16:34.25sbiChompers: could be an issue with infernals :p
16:34.33sbiChompers: unless they all stick to someone
16:34.39Chompers:P
16:34.59sbiChompers: obv they all will be stickied to someone running to the tunnel
16:36.25sbibtw 'bout prince, when i do invis during the fight, i never get aggro wiped ( ktm ), other mages in the same group says otherwise
16:36.35FISKER_Qlol how stupid
16:36.52FISKER_Qblizzard hasn't fixed you can buy some items from a vendor in ghostland with unlimited supply
16:36.52Chompersdont mention ktm here!
16:37.01Chomperseveryones hates ktm here :/
16:37.02FISKER_Qfor 8s you get 2-4 strange dust or greater magic essence
16:37.08FISKER_Qand they sell for atleast 15s each strange dust
16:37.11sbiChompers: did i say ktm?
16:37.18sbiChompers: i never said ktm :D
16:37.25Chompersnope
16:37.30Chompersi dont see it at all
16:37.56sbiChompers: why all peop hate ktm here?
16:38.13deltronI use it :P
16:38.16sbiapart from not being an ace addon obv :D
16:38.36sbideltron: mage? :p
16:38.48deltronsbi: enhance shaman :)
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16:39.14sbideltron: i'll call you Dodo :D
16:39.46deltronpfft
16:40.04deltronyou're just mad because I out-dps you :P
16:40.16sbideltron: you can't :p
16:40.47deltroneasily
16:40.54sbideltron: no, really, you can't :p
16:41.11sbideltron: i'm on another battlgroup/server, you can't!
16:41.32deltronyou in cyclone?
16:41.43sbino
16:42.29sbibloodlust
16:42.48FISKER_QThis is retarded
16:42.50deltronhorde at least?
16:42.56sbiand my server is almost full of italians, so don't plan to transfer just to overdps me :p
16:42.58FISKER_Q1 Go to ghostlands
16:42.59sbisure :D
16:43.05FISKER_Q2. Buy 8s item x45
16:43.17FISKER_Q3. Disenchant for billions of strange dust and greater magic essences
16:43.20FISKER_Q4. ????
16:43.22FISKER_Q5. Profit
16:43.51sbiFISKER_Q: mh, is someone buying strange dust? =)
16:43.53Chompersalliance too?
16:43.56Chompersor just horde
16:44.11chutwigi had like a billion magic essences that i tried to get rid of and nobody was interested
16:44.52pastamancerfor some reason it never occured to me to buy greens/blues from a vendor with the intent of DEing them
16:44.53deltronthey won't sell
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16:45.28FISKER_Qusually bought items are not disenchantable
16:45.42FISKER_Qand nah greater magic essence usually don't sell
16:46.05sbiFISKER_Q: if it worked, nihao wuold have populated ah with those dusts in a few seconds =)
16:47.11FISKER_Qnihao's don't quest
16:47.27FISKER_Qbesides as far as i know, noone really knows about the trick
16:47.35FISKER_Qnot saying that i frequent exploiting sites
16:47.50sbicheater!
16:47.53sbi:D
16:48.40PProvostWhat is the conversion rate to Strange Dust FISKER_Q ?
16:48.52FISKER_Qdunno
16:49.04PProvostInteresting
16:49.12FISKER_Qbut i think you get atleast 2
16:49.17FISKER_Qwith a chance of getting GME's
16:49.53FISKER_Qif one stack of strange dust sells i've broke even
16:50.09PProvostMight be profitable to just vendor the SD
16:50.19PProvostNot sure what SD vendors for
16:50.23FISKER_QSD doesn't vendor
16:50.27FISKER_Qno enchanting stuff vendors
16:50.27PProvostah
16:50.32PProvostpoop
16:50.55FISKER_Qhey atleast no insane ah fees to put it up
16:51.02PProvosthaha
16:51.03FISKER_Qso you can basically just spam ah till some idiot buys it
16:51.09PProvostnice
16:52.22kenlyricI'm on the hunt for mystics.
16:52.29Chomperssome guy is pestering me to buy him an item on the ah
16:52.41Chompersso i've bought the item and put it back on the ah for twice the price
16:52.45Chompersis that evil?
16:53.43ravagernlwheres roartindon?
16:54.17deltronthink putting +20 str on both of my weapons is too much? heh
16:54.43sbiChompers: i won't call it evil :>
16:55.19sbigoing home! buying my alt an epic f.mount tonite! =)
16:55.35sbiand going to ninja a spirit staff for my main!
16:56.39kenlyricninja a spirit staff for me!
16:56.44kenlyric(which spirit staff?)
16:57.39sbikenlyric: http://www.thottbot.com/i27791 <- this one
16:58.43ravagernlcan anyone do a seen roartindon for me, I cant get my tilde to show up :S
16:58.46kenlyricyeah, that's nice.
16:58.54kenlyricI want the purple one that's like it, only better.
16:59.25Gngsk~seen roartindon
17:00.36purlroartindon <n=jtlim@ppp45-45.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 53m 38s ago, saying: 'So it doesn't have the memory, and is faster.. I should use that then?'.
17:00.37sbikenlyric: well, i just use it for evocation :>
17:00.37kenlyrichahaha :)
17:00.37kenlyricyeah, I'd stab you :)
17:00.37sbiwell.. noone really care about that staff
17:00.40sbii'd really use it for evo btw :D
17:00.55kenlyricit'd be an upgrade for me, less healing than my current set but more spirit.
17:01.11sbikenlyric: priest?
17:01.12kenlyricthough, not a whole lot more spirit, which is why I want the purple one
17:01.13Gngsksbi, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31289
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17:01.39Gngsk50 spirit, boe, fairly cheap (considering you're buying your alt an epic mount)
17:01.41kenlyrichttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28604 PURPLE
17:01.42sbiGngsk: world drop = money :)
17:01.58sbiGngsk: yeah btw, you'r right :)
17:02.23sbikenlyric: people kills for that one :>
17:02.43kenlyricwell, there's never more than one holy priest in karazhan, so if i'm there, it's mine
17:02.58sbikenlyric: we got 2 in our raid :E
17:03.51_neuron_same :P
17:04.04sbibasically 2 priest imho is not bad
17:04.21kenlyricI dunno what you'd do with two holy priests in karazhan, except maybe have two things to laugh at.
17:04.34kenlyric(assuming you don't also have hunters to laugh at.
17:04.40_neuron_your alliance then I take it?  And you have some spare paladins? :P
17:04.50kenlyricso many paladins
17:05.00sbikenlyric: we got 2 priest so...
17:05.12kenlyricthey're the only class that consistantly gets three people to show every raid night.
17:05.13sbikenlyric: dunno, but who cares =)
17:05.28sbikenlyric: that's the point :>
17:05.50sbikenlyric: another point is... our priest really dislike the idea of respeccing shadow
17:06.01sbikenlyric: that's not true about lolladins/shamen
17:06.03kenlyricyeah, I'd never do it.
17:06.27kenlyricglad another priest decided to stay shadow after levelling so I didn't have to think about it.
17:06.34sbieheh
17:06.46sbimaybe he thought "so i can pvp"
17:06.46Chompersholy is great when you're raiding alot
17:06.48sbifool!  =)
17:06.53Chomperssucks balls soloing
17:07.04Chompersshadow all the way for solo grinding
17:07.10kenlyricwhich is why I waited until I had done every solo quest in TBC.
17:07.12sbiwell my main used to get a priest before patch
17:07.18sbiget/be
17:07.18_neuron_screw shadow for pvp :P, healers in pvp is <3
17:07.23kenlyricit just so happened that it meshed very nicely with us starting karazhan.
17:07.26sbi_neuron_: true :D
17:07.37sbiswitched to mage then :)
17:08.15kenlyricI did finally manage to achieve almost perfect mana efficiency on curator. If only I had had a mana pot.
17:08.19sbihttp://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Crushridge&n=sbirish <- funny
17:08.25sbihttp://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Crushridge&n=sbi <- funny in arena
17:08.57sbilol @ me for having red pieces in armory =)
17:09.08FISKER_Q_neuron_
17:09.14FISKER_Qautomatic waypoints for lightheaded locs go!
17:09.15_neuron_bite me fisk
17:09.18FISKER_Qoh crap
17:09.21FISKER_Qtank almost died
17:09.33FISKER_Qshouldn't be mainhealer
17:10.01NeoTronyou're main healing while ircing?
17:10.08kenlyricmy favorite, favorite part about nightstaff of the everliving is the screenshot on wowhead.
17:10.08sbilol :D
17:10.33NeoTronWe kill curator just after second evokation. rarely have any mana problems with that
17:10.49kenlyricNeoTron: oh, yeah, I bet you wouldn't :)
17:10.56sbiNeoTron: same :D
17:10.59Arrowmasteri fucked up so badly on curator last night
17:11.03NeoTronchanged strategy, went from 4 to 2
17:11.07Arrowmasterwe got flares after the second evoc
17:11.09NeoTronwith the same group
17:11.15kenlyricaffter second evocate is usually when the tank starts eating bolts, which is fun.
17:11.20FISKER_Qof course NeoTron
17:11.24Arrowmasteri usually send him directly from 2nd evoc to enrage
17:11.28FISKER_Qwouldn't be a man if i wasn't
17:11.38kenlyric4 evocates? geeze, it's a good thing you can last that long.
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17:11.47NeoTronmaybe 3
17:11.52NeoTronbut 4 isn't hard
17:11.53kenlyricI could probably have time to send my pet in again :)
17:11.58NeoTronwith a shadow priest
17:12.17Arrowmasterkey to curator is having a warlock time the curse of dooms correctly
17:12.23Arrowmasterthen its ez mode
17:12.28NeoTronthat's rather minor
17:12.32kenlyrichaving it not resist is good.
17:12.34NeoTronmore of a key is to have constant DPS on the curator
17:12.45sbiArrowmaster: well.. it's not needed btw, it just helps
17:12.48kenlyrickey to curator is that last flare.
17:12.51NeoTronwe use 2-4 DPS on curator
17:12.59NeoTronmelee really never hits him either
17:13.05NeoTronfinishing up the last flare themself
17:13.12sbiNeoTron: 4 peop constantly on cur? O_O
17:13.18NeoTron2-4
17:13.27sbiwe usually have..
17:13.27sbi1
17:13.28NeoTron2 people constant, 2 people swapping in/out as needed
17:13.28sbi-.-
17:13.30kenlyricwe have two... the tank and bolt eater :)
17:13.34NeoTronMT, shadow priest, warlock constant
17:13.34Arrowmasterwe had trouble with curator at first then when i switch in for the other lock and got trinketed bloodfuryed amped curse of doom timed just right he just droped
17:13.42NeoTronmage/hunter rotating between adds / curator
17:14.22sbiArrowmaster: your max doom hit?
17:14.24NeoTronI do throw the occasional SB on adds but typically stick on the curator
17:14.34Arrowmastersome where in the 30k area
17:14.34NeoTronI actually pulled aggro after the first evo last time
17:14.35chutwigi tihnk i had doom pop for 31k without amp
17:14.43sbi:D
17:14.54sbigot 14k bolt!
17:14.55chutwignext time i need to try an amped doom
17:14.58NeoTrongot a perfect "all dots up, SB spam + curse of doom" sequence
17:15.09chutwigi'm affliction now so i really hate the flares
17:15.15chutwigsince i have no burst damage to take them down with
17:15.16Arrowmasteri got a 12k bolt crit last night soloing that one 5man boss in netherstorm
17:15.26trhon curator only the healers have to be good, get 2 warlocks that eat the damage, the rest is a piece of cake
17:15.28NeoTronbloodfury? is that a shaman thing?
17:15.36Arrowmasterorc
17:15.41NeoTronchutwig: that's why you stick to the curator
17:15.46Gnarfozhrm
17:16.01NeoTronchutwig: at least always have the dots on the curator, and SB occasionaly on adds
17:16.47Gnarfozanyone knowledgeable about xcopy? it keeps asking me wether my destination path is a file or a directory. I can force it to assume it's a directory, but I want to force it to assume it's a file, /? does not show a way to do that. anyone know? ^^
17:17.54Arrowmasterso happy i finally got something out of kara last night, the +47 shadow damage neck finally droped while i was in the raid
17:18.08chutwigi need that
17:18.27stavmarArrowmaster: it is an awesome neck to have
17:18.38stavmari never take mine off
17:18.45Arrowmasterfuckers denched the gloves from huntsman the one time it droped because i wasnt in the raid
17:18.50kenlyricdamn, that sounds nice.
17:19.05kenlyricI got the neck of moroes
17:19.08kenlyric*off
17:19.19stavmarmine came off some square dancing ghost mobs
17:19.35Arrowmastergot mine clearing to huntsman
17:22.01chutwigone dropped last week when i was out of kara for like 15 minutes
17:22.10chutwigmade me mad >:(
17:22.13kenlyricd'oh.
17:22.22chutwignow that i'm waiting for it i'm never going to see it
17:22.26kenlyriccould anyone else take it?
17:22.29Arrowmasterwe had 2 drop last week when we were doing 2 raids
17:22.31chutwigpriest has it
17:22.35chutwigone of my friends
17:22.39FISKER_QThe door in shattered halls = rogue utility
17:22.45Chompershas attumens mount dropped for anyone?
17:22.55chutwigi wish
17:23.00Arrowmasterfirst one droped when i was on the waitlist and told to come replace somebody after moroes, second one droped for the other group
17:23.08chutwigthat or the baron's mount would be rockin' for a warlock
17:23.08kenlyricit dropped on our server.
17:23.16kenlyricuh.
17:23.22kenlyricI'd cry if a warlock got that mount.
17:23.22Arrowmasteri see so many people with that fugly mount on my server
17:23.26CIA-1103eraslin * r31926 10DKPmon_FCZS/fczs.lua: DKPmon_FCZS: OR -> or
17:23.29kenlyricthey already have flaming undead horses.
17:23.36chutwigjust demon horses
17:23.39chutwigand i don't use mine
17:23.47Dustwhisperhe
17:23.50Dustwhisperi wish i was in kara that much
17:23.53Dustwhisperwe have 3 raids going kara
17:23.57Dustwhisperand we still have to rotate mages
17:23.58Dustwhisperand rogues
17:23.59kenlyricI wouldn't want it. Horses ftl.
17:24.11chutwigi'm always in because i'm like the only warlock in my group
17:24.19Arrowmasteri have my dreadstead + zg raptor + black kodo and wolf + enough tokens to get another pvp mount + flying epic
17:24.25CIA-1103eraslin * r31927 10DKPmon_ZSumAuction/ (zsumauction.lua zsumsauction.lua): DKPmon_ZSumAuction: OR -> or
17:24.25kenlyricI'd take it just to spite the mage who I know wants it *bad*
17:24.54Arrowmasterthe only normal mount i use anymore is the black kodo though
17:25.05chutwigi use a regular swift white steed
17:25.07Arrowmasteri just love how it tilts to the ground
17:25.12chutwigcan't be counterspelled while mounting
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17:25.25Arrowmasteryeah thats so fucking annoying
17:25.36kenlyricseriously? that would be annoying.
17:25.46chutwigcan counterspell paladin/warlock summoned mounts
17:25.52chutwigdevastating for a paladin
17:25.59Arrowmasterand warlock
17:26.19kenlyricoh well, with the change to mounts, it's fairly cheap for you guys to get ar eal horse.
17:26.23chutwighaving played both classes, counterspells are way worse for paladins
17:26.31Arrowmasteryeah i know
17:26.37Arrowmasterbut its still a killer for warlocks
17:26.44Arrowmasterunless speced destro
17:26.53chutwigi spam searing pain when counterspelled
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17:27.56chutwigfun trick if you're affliction
17:28.01chutwigspam dark pact while summoning
17:28.04chutwigyou can usually get a free tap off
17:28.08Arrowmasteryeah
17:28.26chutwigit's like a free summon
17:28.40Arrowmasterwas their little 'fix' for pets summoning then getting the +int bonus from our gear and having less than full mana
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17:38.23chutwigyay just got spellpower for bracers
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17:39.18FISKER_Qhah
17:39.27FISKER_Qtook me 4 mobs to get spellpower for weapon and bracers
17:39.57chutwigi had no luck with weapon this morning
17:40.00chutwigfarmed bracers an hour last night
17:40.04chutwigjust got it now after 4 mobs
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17:41.04Gnarfozchutwig: damn you. :p
17:41.15ravagernl_woohoo theres the 'login stuck at authentication' again
17:41.24chutwigdon't plan to enchant myself with it, though
17:41.27chutwigi'll give myself fortitude
17:41.43chutwigplus i would cry big weepy tears burning 8 primal fires on +15 damage
17:41.56Lysithearavagernl yepp
17:42.03Lysitheahow did we go around it? :)
17:44.11ravagernl_stupid login servers ><
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17:48.54sbuwah!
17:48.56sbuneed working eu login server :)
17:48.58sbuand .112 doesnt work today :/
17:49.03FISKER_Qz0r?
17:49.12ravagernl_you having problems also sbu?
17:49.22sbumy MT... again :p
17:49.35ravagernl_><
17:50.57ravagernl_ah, fixed
17:50.57Oridan109 works
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17:55.11AdysAnyways
17:55.12FISKER_Q~seen nymbia
17:55.44purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-138-197.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 33m 53s ago, saying: 'whereas with a local pool for your own purposes, you know exactly what frame properties need reset (for the most part)'.
17:55.44Adys.. mt
17:55.44FISKER_Qthat's what you interrupted us to say?
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17:59.03renchap~seen kaelten
17:59.36purlkaelten <n=kaelten@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 22h 20m 8s ago, saying: '$ is a variable in name'.
18:00.52FISKER_Qbtw i just broke even on my enchanting scam
18:00.56FISKER_Qand made 2g
18:02.45FISKER_QYA hear me?
18:03.04[dRaCo]no.
18:03.36CIA-1103gandharva * r31928 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.lua:
18:03.36CIA-11ElkBuffBars
18:03.36CIA-11- added ability to hide FuBar plugin
18:06.07FISKER_Qthat's understandable
18:06.14FISKER_Qsince i'm writing stuff not yelling it
18:06.23Gnarfozwe're not reading you, either
18:07.06FISKER_Q:(
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18:18.11SarozWhy is there just NO good cooldown timer mods, for local skills and items/pots
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18:21.01pastamanceris that not what oCD does?
18:21.29JoshBorkepastamancer: NO!  NEVA!
18:21.56kergothdangit, phpbb3 on my guild site says it cant find the tables to convert from the phpbb2 install witht he specified prefix, yet i'm sititng in phpmyadmin looking at them.
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18:23.11SarozoCD doesnt do well with pots
18:24.15Sarozand some cooldown mods dont register if you pop a pot/trinket while spamming FL for instance
18:25.46JoshBorkei like coolDown
18:26.23FISKER_Qusing the correct database kergoth? :P
18:27.13kergothyep.  looks like something screwed with the old data, glad i backed it up with mysqlhotcoyp
18:28.04shieldbJoshBorke, there any screenshots of coolDown sitting around anywhere?
18:28.09Cruciasdoes anyone know of a mod that extends the pages you can view in ur mailbox?
18:28.16JoshBorkeshieldb: sec, i'll amke one
18:28.28Crucias*the # of pages
18:28.30SarozcoolDown started depending on some iframe shit
18:28.56Stephmwam I the only one noe able to get past 'authenticating' on EU?
18:29.00Stephmw*not
18:29.07Sarozhad that problem an hour ago
18:29.23JoshBorkeSaroz: so?  things used to depend on Ace, did you not use them then?
18:29.33Sarozofc, but why do I need this iframe stuff
18:29.40Sarozembeds fgs
18:29.43StephmwSaroz: thanks. I guess it's as good an excuse as any to update some addons
18:29.52shieldbI'm using CDT currently I'm just wondering how it compares
18:29.53JoshBorkei don't know why it's not embedded, but it's not that big of a deal imo
18:30.02SarozI update every day before I open WOW :p
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18:33.09FISKER_QFUCK
18:33.13FISKER_QStephmw
18:33.18FISKER_Qshould've told me before i logged out
18:33.57JoshBorke<PROTECTED>
18:34.24JoshBorkei like it because it's small
18:34.35kergothargh
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18:34.46FISKER_QI like your mom JoshBorke
18:34.53kergothinstall phpbb3, it gives an admin user that can do everything
18:34.56JoshBorkeFISKER_Q: at least someone does
18:34.59kergothconvert from the old phpbb2 data, it REMOVES the admin user
18:35.02kergothand now i have no user with full rights.
18:35.08FISKER_Qadd it yourself
18:35.10kergothonly those with the administrators group rights, which isnt everything
18:35.18kergothi dont know the db format well enough to add it myself, yet
18:35.24kergothlooking through the schema
18:35.27FISKER_QCopy to phpbb3-test
18:35.32FISKER_Qmake a new forum in a new database
18:35.37FISKER_QLook at user
18:35.38FISKER_Q???
18:35.38FISKER_Qprofit
18:36.32StephmwSaroz: manually?
18:36.53JoshBorkeshieldb: see my link
18:37.14SarozStephmw, SVN up
18:38.39ravagernl_wondering about forum security, what bb would you think has best security
18:38.48StephmwSaroz: ahh, you keep the full set available? not bad
18:39.25shieldbJoshBorke, thanks!
18:39.46JoshBorkeshowing spell and trinket cooldowns
18:39.50JoshBorkesince i had no pots to use
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18:43.40SarozStephmw, nah I click all folders which are marked as SVN folders, and just click update to update them all
18:43.41Sarozsimpl
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18:44.07Sarozwill test it JoshBorke :p
18:50.31StephmwSaroz: oh. so what gui do you use?
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18:54.48sburavagernl_: hmm vbulletin or punbb?
18:55.07ravagernl_hmm
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19:02.03SarozStephmw, tortoiseSVN
19:02.23FISKER_Qbtw kergoth
19:02.30FISKER_Qnew phpbb3 style = hawt
19:02.58kergothi like that it has a sane permissions system, its consistent.  none of this "is this forum public or private" in addition to the half assed group/users system anymore
19:03.29StephmwSaroz: cheers
19:04.38Sarozscreenshot of phpbb3 plx
19:04.55sbuph
19:04.57sbureleased?
19:05.52kergothits beta.
19:06.27NightHawkTheSanestill beta? its been beta for like 6 years.
19:06.45kergothbeta 5 now, due to hit rc1 sometime soon i hope
19:06.46kergothhehe
19:06.54deltronehhh
19:07.04NightHawkTheSaneplease, i'm pretty sure debian's had at least once release since phpbb3 started development (as phpbb2.2 no less)
19:07.05deltronSMF > *
19:07.27SarozSMF = meh
19:07.31Sarozphpbb2 = shit
19:07.36StephmwNightHawkTheSane: yeah, but how long had that one been cooking?
19:08.04NightHawkTheSaneStephmw: touche. :)
19:08.07deltronphpbb is laughable :P
19:08.20NightHawkTheSaneI think phpbb3 is like the next duke nukem forever. http://duke.a-13.net/
19:08.44StephmwOooo, tough one
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19:08.52SarozJoshBorke, how do you configure coolDown
19:08.58StephmwNightHawkTheSane: that'd be a dicy wager
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19:09.13JoshBorkeclick the button on your minimap to move it
19:09.28Sarozahh
19:09.43Sarozyou cant configure it?
19:09.54JoshBorkeeverything else is done through lua commands
19:09.59Sarozufff
19:10.00Saroznasty
19:10.06JoshBorkeyea
19:10.06Sarozcant even move the minimap icon
19:10.28Saroznot impressed then
19:11.06JoshBorkelol.  i just like the graphics of it :-D
19:11.21Saroztrue
19:11.27Sarozseems to be good functionality wise
19:11.49JoshBorkeit doesn't scan all the character slots though
19:12.04Sarozwhy not
19:12.14JoshBorkehe only coded it to scan the trinket slots
19:12.22Sarozmeh, thats fine
19:12.30JoshBorkeideally what i'd like to see is one mod that handles scanning and another mod that handles displaying :-/
19:12.46JoshBorkewhich i might work on tbh
19:12.56JoshBorkesince scanning is stupid easy
19:13.47Saroztbh
19:13.49Sarozand I mean this
19:13.53Sarozthere is no single good CD mod
19:13.58Sarozmake one
19:14.04Sarozand the world is yours
19:14.04JoshBorkesaroz:  i know
19:14.25SarozcoolDown is nice, give options
19:14.54JoshBorkei might even make it an ace addon
19:15.02JoshBorke...naw
19:15.50Sarozdont care
19:15.50kergothcooldowntimers2 always seemed nice, i like that you could create new groups of cooldowns and select which ones to show in it and stuff
19:15.55kergothit always felt pretty heavy though
19:16.20Saroztoo much work
19:16.31kergothhm?
19:16.37Sarozto group stuff up
19:16.49kergothby deafult it has two groups, one for abilities, one for items, with everything in both
19:16.52kergoththeres no "work" involved
19:16.55kergothunless you want to change that
19:17.11Sarozah ok
19:17.13Sarozthats cool
19:17.18Sarozbut one thing I noticed
19:17.22Saroza common problem for all CD mods
19:17.25Sarozwas on patchwork
19:17.27Sarozspamming FL
19:17.28Saroznon-stop
19:17.33Sarozpopped trinket
19:17.36Sarozdidnt register the trinket
19:17.43Sarozbecause I was spamming FL
19:17.54JoshBorkethat sholudn't matter though
19:17.59Sarozit did
19:18.04SarozoCD has that problem
19:19.13Sarozgonna stick with coolDown for now
19:19.44JoshBorkei guess i'll think on a format f or a new cooldown mod
19:19.48kergothcandydice has cooldowns too, i was surprised to see
19:19.54Sarozalso, if I was spamming FL and popped Divine Favor, it didnt register the cooldown either
19:19.55Sarozsucks
19:19.57kergoththeres a seperate addon for showing the item cooldowns
19:20.07Sarozcandydice is?
19:20.33kergothits that old rogue specific spell timers addon, that has some stuff for other classes now too.  does a lot more than i expected
19:20.38Sarozah
19:20.45JoshBorkethere's also dotimer
19:20.54Sarozyes but thats dots on mobs
19:20.55Sarozno?
19:21.00Saroznot really cooldowns
19:21.14JoshBorkedoes cooldowns too
19:21.18JoshBorkei just deleted the module
19:21.20Sarozoh, didnt know that
19:21.28JoshBorkebut i hacked it so it looks like coolDown a little bit
19:22.01JoshBorkeyay for knowing how to tailor mods
19:24.08FISKER_Qhaha
19:24.15FISKER_Qthis was my 3rd stack i sold from that disenchanting
19:24.15JoshBorkeSaroz: did you look inside coolDown for the options you can set?
19:24.19FISKER_Qso that's like 11g already
19:24.20Saroznope
19:24.20deltronlol
19:24.27deltronwhat are you buying FISKER_Q ?
19:24.38FISKER_Qlevel 10 items from a vendor in ghostlands
19:24.44Saroztsk tsk
19:24.47FISKER_Qdisenchanting them and selling them for aproximately 200% profit
19:24.50deltronheh the rep stuff?
19:24.52JoshBorkelol
19:25.14FISKER_Qactually more like 300-400% since it sometimes disses to GME's
19:25.16FISKER_Qwhich sell for a lot more
19:25.25Stephmwback to the vendor?
19:25.30FISKER_Qno
19:25.30FISKER_Qon ah
19:26.09FISKER_Qsmart way to level enchanting initially too
19:26.13FISKER_Qsince you can level it to 75
19:26.16Sarozdoesnt have a lot of options JoshBorke
19:26.17FISKER_Qon dissing stuff
19:26.55ravagernl_elkano: why not just use the spell icon for power word fortitude?
19:27.35JoshBorkeSaroz: nope
19:29.04Stephmwhrmmm... my group pitbul unit frames are kinda flashing... from full opaque to full transparent
19:29.10Stephmwerratically
19:32.06FISKER_Qawesome
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19:34.14Stephmwannoying... trying to see if any specific option stops it
19:34.51Stephmwfound it
19:34.55StephmwRangeCheck
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19:38.47CIA-1103jayrox * r31929 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc: FuBar_VampwatchFu: removed lod
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19:40.43FISKER_Qhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin  QQ
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19:48.59CIA-1103chuckg * r31930 10SpellWatch/SpellWatch.lua:
19:48.59CIA-11SpellWatch:
19:49.01CIA-11- Added vertical spacing between bars.
19:49.01CIA-11- Removed redundant code in options configuration.
19:50.08mjcman this defrag is taking ages... at least I know how fast it made my laptop so I don't have to worry about it being worth it :P
19:51.53deltron:P
19:52.54chuckgGotta partition!
19:54.52art3misoodefrag is rox0r
19:55.03mjcchuckg: wouldn't help in this instance
19:55.10Chomperswonder if anyone can help me
19:55.12mjcI make a lot of really big temporary files and delete them over and over
19:55.18mjcart3mis: windows :P
19:55.35Chomperswait...nm
19:55.36art3mishehe oodefrag is for winders ;P
19:55.44chuckgChompers, you'd have to ask the question before asking if anyone could help you!
19:55.44mjcthat's waht I'm saying.
19:55.48chuckgOtherwise, no one would know.
19:55.48chuckg=D
19:55.49art3misoh
19:55.57art3misare you fscking your drives?
19:56.03art3misheh
19:56.11mjcfsck ~= chkdsk
19:56.32FISKER_Qdamn
19:56.37FISKER_Qhealing has never been easier with pitbull
19:56.42FISKER_Q"This frame is red, gogo heal"
19:56.48mjcyeah
19:56.52art3misFISKER_Q: dont forget about tnath green item vendor just south of the enterance to wsg
19:56.58FISKER_Qi love it
19:56.58mjcpitbull rapes anus
19:57.06[dRaCo]never let it drop to red :þ
19:57.19FISKER_Qthat's not their health
19:57.21mjckergoth: thanks btw.
19:57.22FISKER_Qit's their aggro
19:57.25FISKER_Qvia banzailib
19:57.38mjcdeltron: yeah.  fisker's right. pitbull rapes anus.
19:57.54[dRaCo]hm, people who draw aggro deserve to die.
19:57.59chuckgI won't touch it till he fixes the aura issues.
19:58.01mjcheh it's been defragging my mame roms for the past four hours
19:58.07mjcchuckg: they were reverted
19:58.10mjcblame nevcairiel
19:58.11Codayus[dRaCo]: I keep telling our MT that but he doesn't agree...  :-(
19:58.12FISKER_Qaura's fine here
19:58.16mjcpurl: blame nevcairiel
19:58.19purlACTION blames nevcairiel (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
19:58.21mjcCodayus: lol
19:58.35[dRaCo]well... he's getting the heals anyway.
19:58.45Codayuss/he/she, in this case, but whatever
19:59.09[dRaCo]s/he/she/
19:59.11[dRaCo]=)
19:59.16Codayus:-p
19:59.25mjcl2regex, Codayus
19:59.49CodayusYeah, I don't like purl helping me, so I purposefully malform it.
19:59.51Codayus<shrug>
19:59.57art3misregex....regex like the wind!
20:00.01mjcthat's what they all say.
20:00.12mjcart3mis: what's the matter lassie? regex broken?
20:00.25art3miss/woof/arf/
20:00.31CodayusOn a vaguely related note, I really do love aggro indicators.
20:00.51art3misheh my dart frame at the bottom of my screen turns all red when i get aggro
20:01.02CodayusIn fights like Maiden or Aran it kinda trivializes the dispelling/healing issues.  :-p
20:01.05FISKER_Qbtw i cleaned my fubar :o
20:01.08FISKER_Qdown to one bar now
20:01.10mjcsomeone really needs to tell all the retards that use xperl in my guild to stop
20:01.13art3misperv
20:01.14[dRaCo]never seen the point... tot is good enough for me
20:01.21Codayus[dRaCo]: Lazyness.
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20:01.33CodayusI used to rely on ToT, but that required ACTUALLY targeting the boss
20:01.41[dRaCo]hm, yeah.
20:01.43kenlyricTarget of Focus :)
20:01.59Codayuskenlyric: That's even worse, that requires targetting the boss AND setting focus!
20:02.12kenlyricaggro indicators are very nice when there's more than one mob doing the aggro, ToT only gives you one.
20:02.12[dRaCo]just focus your mt all the time
20:02.33CodayusHmm, and go for a ToToT? I guess...
20:02.45[dRaCo]I don't use focus that much, though...
20:02.52art3mistototototototototototototototof
20:02.55[dRaCo]click2cast and tot is enough
20:03.02CodayusI use focus for CCing macros, and...um...yeah, CC
20:03.13chuckgOh and someone needs to port oUF.
20:03.16CodayusI <3 click2cast, though, yeah.
20:03.18chuckgThat's the last thing I need before I go!
20:03.18chuckg:)
20:03.33chuckgThe layout, that is.
20:03.38[dRaCo]yeah, guess it's useful for that purpose... but I haven't got any CC skills, so screw that ;)
20:03.39TheKarnmjc what do you have against xperl?
20:03.46Codayus<-- Shackle bot
20:04.05kenlyricclick-2-cast makes me wish I had more fingers.
20:04.12TheKarnlol i'd love to get a poll of what people here play as their main class
20:04.19TheKarni'd guess priest would be at the top
20:04.30kenlyricwhy do you think that?
20:04.36art3misbecause priests rule all
20:04.38art3misduh
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20:04.41CodayusIt's because priests are just BETTER than other classes.
20:04.44kenlyricthis is true.
20:04.46[dRaCo]shamans.
20:04.48chuckgNerf. Shadow. Priests.
20:04.49kenlyricI'm on board with all of these things
20:04.50chuckgThat is all.
20:04.50Stephmwmeh. playing priest in raids bored me.
20:05.03art3misare you a healie priest?
20:05.05CodayusHeh, I like healing in raids...  <shrug>
20:05.06kenlyrichealer is the best thing to be if you get bored.
20:05.07NeoTronI'm considering repseccing to aff/demo/dest of some sort but sacrificing some DPS for raid utility
20:05.18NeoTronlike improved CoW (actually is meaningful it turns out)
20:05.24CodayusBut yeah, shadow priests are kinda scary right now.
20:05.25kenlyricHealers have 10 targets, everyone else only has one :)
20:05.27CodayusEven post nerf.
20:05.33art3misshadow priest is fun in raids if you play a game of aggro keep away ;)
20:05.37kenlyric10/25/5 etc
20:05.47NeoTronkenlyric: as a warlock, I sometimes have 1 fear, 1 seduce, 1 banish and then dps too
20:05.50NeoTronthat gets hectic
20:06.00TheKarnlol art3mis i agree there
20:06.03kenlyricNeoTron: awww, 4.  Wouldn't that be nice :)
20:06.05TheKarni always beat the tank with agro
20:06.05CodayusAnd enslave sometimes!
20:06.11art3mishahah ken
20:06.18NeoTronkenlyric: difference is, your 10 targets don't all try to hit you
20:06.21kenlyricNeoTron: we've had warlocks complain about how much they have to do on shade :)
20:06.29NeoTronheh
20:06.33kenlyricI laugh.
20:06.34NeoTronshade is annoying
20:06.36CIA-1103totalpackage * r31931 10StellarUF/ (StellarUF.toc core.lua):
20:06.36CIA-11StellarUF:
20:06.36CIA-11- possible fix for nil error
20:06.46NeoTronbecause you keep getting various things in the way
20:07.06CodayusShade of Aran is frustrating as hell, because my guild is stuck on him.  I swear, we're going to get Gruul down before Aran.  (And yeah, I know, we're nubs.)
20:07.15NeoTronbut I've played a raid healing priest up to naxxramas, a healing raid druid up to AQ40 and paladin in 20-man and MC though)
20:07.21kenlyricCodayus: unless you can get enough people to show up for grull.
20:07.22CodayusWater elementals > us
20:07.30NeoTronCodayus: if you're having problems, bring 2-3 warlocks
20:07.42CodayusWe have...1 regular raiding warlock.
20:07.43Codayus:-(
20:07.46NeoTronand the rest dps being rogue/dps warr/feral drood
20:07.47kenlyrics/unless/at least/
20:07.57Codayuskenlyric: Ooh, ouch.
20:08.17[dRaCo]just bring 20 paladins and make them bubble at the same time... won't get you anywhere, but looks funny.
20:08.18NeoTronwe will get Maulgar again on sunda
20:08.21NeoTronnot sure if we'll do gruul
20:08.27NeoTronlast time our DPS was woefully low
20:08.50kenlyricwe did finally get the first five bosses in 1 shot, so I have hope for shade.
20:08.53CodayusYeah, we downed Maulgar on Mon, tried Gruul and realized....we had like, half the DPS we needed.
20:09.27deltronyou need more enh shaman! :D
20:09.35NeoTronCodayus: same as us yeah
20:09.42CodayusOr *a* shaman.  :-/
20:09.48NeoTronof coruse we can still go and have people learn not to die from shatter or falling rocks
20:09.52deltrondoh
20:09.54deltronno shaman? :(
20:10.00NeoTronwe have A shaman
20:10.01NeoTronatm
20:10.17NeoTronhe's elemental. no enahncement, wait. no. resto!
20:10.21deltronwe have 3 or 4 pallies
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20:10.34NeoTronthat said. I always keep my shadowpriest near
20:10.41NeoTronnothing ike 20% more damage for free
20:11.03kenlyricbring two warlocks, double the fun.
20:12.05Tornhoofheh if your tank has the hp
20:12.13Tornhoofhe can survive like 16+ shatters
20:12.57TheKarnhttp://karn.co.uk/
20:13.42[dRaCo]ha, shamans win. 50%
20:15.22TheKarnshamans and warlocks on 2 each
20:15.25TheKarnonly one priest
20:16.19NeoTronkenlyric: indeed
20:16.38NeoTronTornhoof: our problem is not the tank dying but the healers
20:16.44NeoTronone shatter took out three priests
20:16.50FISKER_Qnymbia is the PT3 guy right?
20:16.57NeoTronalthoguh it was amusing with 3 angels on top of eachother.. it quickly left us dead
20:17.14TheKarnso what are the unitframes of the moment? still aguf?
20:17.26NeoTronPitBull is waht the cool kids use
20:17.47Sarozeverything ckknight touches turns into gold
20:18.08NeoTrons/cool kids/cult of kknight/
20:18.15NeoTrondamn
20:18.19NeoTronyou get the idea
20:18.24Sarozya
20:18.31ckknightmy penis is solid gold
20:18.35ckknight...wanna touch it?
20:18.45Stephmwno, but I'll saw it off
20:18.54NeoTronsoon on ebay
20:19.06Aenslaedpitbull is getting changed too much to use atm.
20:19.47TheKarni like that in an addon
20:19.54TheKarnadds a whole game to the game
20:20.04TheKarn"ooh ... shiny new features ..."
20:20.13TheKarnfollowed by "oooh ... shiny new bugs ..."
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20:21.17NeoTronRespecced 0/40/21 again (demo/dest lock)
20:21.23NeoTron25% crit as a lock isn't shabby
20:21.50TheKarnlol
20:21.55TheKarni really need to get rid of Vista
20:22.33kenlyricvista never really liked wow in windowed mode + a video playing on monitor 2.
20:22.41kenlyricso I had to go back to xp
20:22.46NeoTronso I read this on slashdot " Massive Star Burps, Then Explodes" and immediately thought of the fat guy eating just one tiny piece of chocolate in Monty Python
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20:22.57TheKarnkenlyric, i never had a problem with that
20:23.07TheKarnthe problem i ahve is with its file i/o and network i/o problems
20:23.41TheKarnfor instance ... a 1.76GB movie (two files) copying from one computer to another over a 100mbps link ... so far taken 1.5 hours
20:24.34kenlyricyeah, the flie i/o issues are a problem.
20:24.34kenlyricjust copying any kind of a file is nightmarishly slow.
20:24.34TheKarncopying files to a usb pen drive ... 20mins for a 4GB
20:24.47TheKarncurrently looking at my networking throughput (according to taskman) ... average of 3%. i'm copying a fucking file ffs
20:24.52TheKarni want to use 100% of the throughput if i can
20:25.03NeoTronheh
20:25.10NeoTroneven in XP I wonder why some things are as slow as they are
20:25.45NeoTronI download an addon  open as "zip folder' and then mark all, cut and paste in the wow addon folder
20:26.00NeoTrontakes A LOT longer than using command line unzip or any other unzipping program
20:26.01TheKarnlol
20:26.06NeoTroneven when I jsut do copy vs cut
20:26.14TheKarnMS's archiving is laughable
20:26.39TheKarnonly support for zip
20:26.42TheKarnno support for rar or tar
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20:27.24NeoTronstill
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20:27.36NeoTronI don't need more than zip.. I just don't want a 10 second task to take 5 minutes
20:27.58deltronmmmm
20:28.17NeoTronso I use winrar or unzip now
20:28.28deltronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=27846
20:28.33deltronI use 7-zip
20:28.41deltronfor everything
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20:29.30Silviu-i use winrar too
20:29.36Silviu-for all
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20:32.26FISKER_Qmew mew
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20:34.13kenlyricso very, very, very true
20:34.15kenlyrichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeLGxVCgEY
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20:35.26IndustrialThe url contained a malformed video id.
20:35.29Industrialkenlyric: FAIL
20:36.06ckknighthey,  porno
20:36.12Industrialindeed
20:36.12Industriallol
20:36.15kenlyrichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeLGxVCgEYw
20:36.18kenlyrici suck
20:36.42Industriallol
20:36.45FISKER_Qyes
20:37.40kenlyricI was never this dumb though.
20:37.40Industrialin the vid she moves from side to side way too much
20:37.47kenlyriconly had to fall in once per visit.
20:37.56Industrialgot auto run and pointing where you go?
20:38.02kenlyriconce you've got that kind of lag, you dismount and take it slow.
20:38.24mjcckknight:  moo
20:38.34Industrialmjc: baaa
20:38.36ckknightanti-moo
20:39.09mjcckknight: wanted to poke you about the issue pprovost was fighting with you about :p
20:39.18ckknightwhat issue?
20:39.22ckknightthe width/height ratio?
20:39.40mjcyep
20:39.57mjcthere seems to be something elsethough.
20:40.01TheKarnlayouts should have default width/heights tbh
20:40.07ckknightwhat's that?
20:40.08mjcTheKarn: agreed
20:40.14ckknightTheKarn: they'll have ratios
20:40.19ckknightI think
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20:40.45NeoTronkenlyric: never had problems like that.
20:40.47mjcckknight: the part that gets highlighted when you mouse over the frames w/ Industrial's layout or pprovost's converted one stays the same size as the original
20:40.51NeoTronl2minimumspec :P
20:40.52mjcor is that the same bug and I'm a dumbass
20:40.58ckknightodd
20:41.14NeoTronnot to mention, l2not autorun
20:41.28NeoTronjust walk up, wait for stuff to load and THEN walk
20:42.04NeoTronall that video does is show stupidity at its finest
20:42.05NeoTronheh
20:42.07ckknightseems like a weird bug
20:42.27kenlyricNeoTron: it's extended for effect, but that first time falling in the pit... happened a lot.
20:42.29mjcckknight: reproducable?
20:42.46kenlyricand it was random. sometimes you'd make it to the bank just fine.
20:42.47NeoTronI've done it on occasion for sure but ... that's just dumb
20:43.01NeoTronif you have performance problems using autorun is a bad idea
20:43.18NeoTronwithout autorun you won't be falling anywhere. you'll just stop and wait
20:43.27kenlyricprobably. doesn't stop us from using it :)
20:43.42kenlyricI get annoying now when I play games that don't have autorun.
20:43.48NeoTronlike in the end of the video
20:44.21kenlyricI use to have the same kind of lag in shatt, but it was while flying in, so no movement involved.
20:44.26NeoTronpeople complaining about the moat are probably he same people that repeatedly die from falling off the aldor rise
20:44.42kenlyricand once I go tmore than 768 ram, it went away.
20:45.05kenlyricNeoTron: that damn lift always moves away the instant I get to it!
20:45.22NeoTronsure it does
20:45.27harldephini'd recommend having 1,5 GB or more for playing WoW on a windows XP+ machine
20:45.27NeoTronthen you wait. :P
20:45.30kenlyriclevitate FTW
20:45.40Gnarfozdivine shield and blessing of protection, also
20:45.46kenlyricyou wait if you can react fast enough.
20:45.49NeoTronand yeah, 1 GB is doable but not recommended
20:45.55kenlyricbut being even a split second late for that lift will kill you.
20:46.12NeoTronGnarfoz: that still works for fall dmg?
20:46.16Gnarfozyes
20:46.17kenlyricI have 1.5gb now. But the package gives much smaller "minimum" spec :)
20:46.24NeoTron512 yeah
20:46.28Gnarfozall immune shields do, they are both not absorb shields
20:46.37NeoTronthe minimum specs are unrealistic
20:46.44NeoTronthe recommended spec is a good minimum to shoot for
20:46.49kenlyricI think that's the spec for an empty realm
20:46.51NeoTronminimum means it starts
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20:47.23NeoTroncan you imagine playing wow on a P3 800 wuth 512 MB ram and a 32 MB GeForce 2?
20:47.29NeoTronhave they evern TRIED doing that?
20:47.50NeoTronironically for mac they require more CPU power minimum
20:48.00NeoTron933 MHz G4 should be more powerful than a 800 MHz P3
20:48.22mjcNeoTron: works fine for my ex
20:49.07ZealotOnAStickNeoTron: it's -possible- to get WoW to run on a Celeron-A 433 with 256MB RAM and a GF3.
20:49.20ZealotOnAStickI've done it.  Though I wouldn't really call the result "playing"
20:49.42Gnarfozcrawling?
20:50.01NeoTronit might be ok if you're all alone, no addons, everything at aminimum
20:50.12harldephinwell. 256 mb is like hell with heads on sticks and burning lava. 512 mb just completely sucks equally. 768 mb clearly isn't enough. 1 GB is OK, but it's jumpy & chunky in some situations. so 1.5 GB is better and 2 GB is about the optimum. no matter if WoW actually uses the whole RAM or not, windows' memory management (and that of some other programs people probably run simultaniously) is borked, otherwise 768 MB would suffice.
20:50.34NeoTron2 GB is nice
20:50.35FISKER_QI say a warrior can solo azuregos
20:50.37mjcI do fine on OSX with 512
20:50.38FISKER_Qa warrior says no
20:50.40FISKER_Qwhat say you?
20:50.55NeoTronmjc: windows seems to suck utterly at memory management
20:50.56GnarfozI say no
20:51.01FISKER_Q:(
20:51.11FISKER_Qyou are not visionaries
20:51.11NeoTronOS X is probably a lot better being BSD derived
20:51.12mjcNeoTron: known. vista's is worse
20:51.16FISKER_Qetc.
20:51.18Gnarfozwe're blind, true
20:51.22NeoTronmjc: how can it possibly be worse?
20:51.41art3miswell as an example i have 1.4gb free when i start wow out of 2gb and at present im at 895 so....
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20:52.45harldephini'm ran wow on a 1 GB machine for a few months, then upgraded to 2GB+ and it's definitely involved a positive change in loading times, compensating lags and whatnot. everything's just smoother. (additionally i don't have to close stuff like firefox and keep all usual stuff running in the background)
20:52.48sbumehhh, i hate php
20:52.51FISKER_Qso why can't a warrior solo azuregos? :(
20:52.52mjcNeoTron: changed the way kernelspace works, agp won't initialize for example on my system (with an intel reference board) unless I have four sticks of RAM installed so that it can ignore a good 60MB
20:52.53mjcunless I turn on PAE
20:52.54harldephini'm = i
20:53.11GnarfozFISKER_Q: I'd wager on 'no healing'
20:53.11mjcwhich is a 20% performance decrease and various other htings
20:53.17Yinchiemjc: the more memory vista uses the faster your programs.
20:53.22FISKER_Qa warrior has healing
20:53.24FISKER_Qcommanding shout
20:53.27mjcYinchie: that's not it
20:53.31Gnarfozcommanding shout does not heal
20:53.32GnarfozoO
20:53.33mjcYinchie: it won't initialize AGP
20:53.39Gnarfozit increases maximum hp
20:53.39kenlyricdraenei warrior has healing :)
20:53.40CIA-1103chuckg * r31932 10cgCrafty/cgCrafty.lua:
20:53.40CIA-11cgCrafty:
20:53.40CIA-11- Fixed up materials search a bit. When the user runs out of materials to complete a recipe, it will now be automatically removed from the list.
20:53.48FISKER_Qyes it does when you go under 1000hp
20:53.54FISKER_QIt will always give you 1080hp
20:53.54Gnarfoz... what?
20:53.56mjcYinchie: I have 4x1GB or 2x2GB, it won't work with 2x2GB.... chipset documentation links to similar stuff on MSSDN
20:53.57mjcMSDN
20:54.05FISKER_QSo when you use it at 1hp you'll be healed for 1079 hp
20:54.18Gnarfozcommanding shout?
20:54.26FISKER_Qyeah
20:54.30Yinchiefor me no probs yet with vista on desktop or laptop so i am happy :)
20:54.36Gnarfozsince when oO
20:54.41mjcYinchie: that's not what we were talking about
20:54.50mjcYinchie: way to butt in on a conversation you know nothing about. ;)
20:55.03DustwhisperWhat's a good trinketmod? (Show which trinkets are up and easy binding to them)
20:55.08FISKER_Qsince whenever
20:55.20Yinchiemjc: too tired to read all :D
20:55.21FISKER_Qbeen known exploit for years
20:55.26Gnarfozanyway
20:55.30harldephini don't recommend vista for playing WoW though. i've had the experience that it runs smoother on a clean & tuned XP machine than on a fresh vista.
20:55.36mjcFiddle: years?
20:55.39mjcer
20:55.40mjcFISKER_Q:
20:55.42Gnarfozazuregos will tear that 1080hp apart in no time
20:55.46FISKER_Qmany warriors uses it to complete elite quests they usually can't complete with other than a group
20:55.49mjcharldephin: of courseit does, vista uses more resources
20:56.03harldephinyea
20:56.12FISKER_Qexactly 100 years mjc
20:56.23Gnarfozpatch 2.0.6, it seems is '100 years'
20:56.27mjcFisker-: I see.
20:56.32Gnarfozat least figuring from wowhead comments on the spell in question
20:56.38kergothDustwhisper: i use trinketmenu, myself
20:56.48Yinchiethats bullshit, vista uses a new memory management system or whatever. like i said the more it uses the faster your apps. for me wow runs smoother on vista. but i am out of here, too much newbie vista hateboys that knows shit :)
20:56.49Fisker-i would guess it has been since the spell was ingame
20:56.54mjckergoth: still no luck on that app and autostools
20:57.18harldephinlol
20:57.26Fisker-a 3d desktop is technically better than a 2done
20:57.29harldephinno comment
20:58.11mjclol at yinchie, clearly hasn't read MSDN on the way 32bit vista configures kernel/userspace split
20:58.11mjc:P
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20:59.14SarozFunkeh`, in the ysondre mod, isnt it better to scan for the cast of the breath
20:59.30NeoTronso correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the old-world world bosses also scaling in terms of hitting specials/melee etc?
20:59.56Saroznot really
21:00.02SarozI mean
21:00.05Sarozpatchwerk doing 5k HS
21:00.08Saroztrivial
21:00.44NeoTronI mean I doubt an old 40-man boss would be soloable
21:00.59NeoTronsmall group perhaps but not solo
21:01.07Sarozthe problem is still dps
21:01.12Sarozyou need the dps to bring it down
21:01.16NeoTronyeah
21:01.21NeoTronhealing and tanking is a lot easier
21:01.23Sarozyup
21:01.51art3misony is only a 10man now
21:01.53SarozI cleared all subbosses in naxx
21:01.54NeoTronof course, the prince in kara has like 1.1M HP
21:01.56Sarozas 70
21:01.56art3misif that
21:01.58Saroz4HM
21:01.58Sarozetc.
21:01.59NeoTronwhich is about the same as Onyxia
21:02.01Sarozgothik is lol :p
21:02.16harldephinoO
21:02.16NickenyfikenIs it possible to have many Tablet's up at the same time?
21:02.17NeoTrononly was 3-manned before BC
21:02.21Fisker-the theory is that azuregos will be hitting for less than 1k on a well geared level 70 warrior
21:02.26NeoTrons/only/Ony/
21:02.36Fisker-so he can effectively use commanding shout to negate any melee attack made
21:02.45TheKarnthere needs to be a way to layout the raid automagically
21:02.47NeoTron10 man ony would be easy now
21:02.53NeoTron5-man probably wouldn't be very hard
21:03.02Fisker-10man was pretty easy imo
21:03.18chuckghttp://www.wowace.com/trac/
21:03.20chuckgClick the logo.
21:03.23Fisker-was usually easier than 40man because we usually had n00bs with us
21:03.27chuckgShould probably fix that :)
21:03.36NeoTronI think we did Emeriss with 12 ppl
21:03.44NeoTronvery lacking in DPS but decent healing
21:03.52NeoTronso post-patch, also 5-man I'm sure
21:04.13harldephinchuckg: yeah..
21:04.13NeoTronunfortunately they are still farmed it seems
21:04.15NeoTronwould be fun to do
21:04.17chuckgI think we did Emeriss with 4.
21:04.29chuckgWarlock, Paladin, Shaman, Warrior.
21:04.42NeoTronsounds about right
21:04.49NeoTronBest DPS, BEst healign, Moral support and tank
21:04.54chuckgEven did Taerar with 5.
21:05.14NeoTronwarrior anked all shades along?
21:05.23NeoTronfeh. tanked and alone
21:05.26Fisker-Someone 5-manned naxx btw
21:05.28Fisker-lololol
21:05.35Fisker-using lots of sploitz ofcourse
21:05.47chuckg2 shadow priests + warrior + paladin + warlock.
21:05.53chuckgThat's how DNT 5 manned loatheb at 60.
21:06.05NeoTronwtf?
21:06.25NeoTronisn't loatheb supposed to be heavily consumable dependant with 40 ppl? (never got that far)
21:06.45Fisker-shadowpriests are overpowered ofc
21:06.47Gngskit's not a problem if you can heal through the debuff
21:06.53chuckg^
21:07.05chuckgThe only "problem" with that fight is healers get a 1m "can't use any heal" debuff.
21:07.22chuckgWell the problem is solved if you don't ever have to directly heal.
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21:07.52chuckgWarlocks are infinitely sustainable even without shadowpriests on that fight.
21:08.06TheKarnis 2.6kib/s bad for increasing memory?
21:08.13mjcno
21:08.14chuckgGood.
21:08.21chuckgDepending on in or out of combat.
21:08.26TheKarnaverage of 0.4
21:08.27Fisker-is 1 BILLION KiB/s bad?
21:08.28TheKarnout of combat
21:08.35chuckgThat's as good as it gets.
21:08.46chuckgAnything under 10k is *superb* in combat.
21:08.55Fisker-damn i got 12
21:08.59Fisker-billion ofcourse
21:09.02harldephindamn i don't know
21:09.37Funkeh`Saroz: if there was a cast, don't you think it would use that? =)
21:09.59IndustrialWich is the current KC_Items from branches? (or is in trunk now?)
21:10.44Sarozhrm
21:10.47Sarozweird
21:10.58NeoTronchuckg: so 2 shadow priests can heal the MT?
21:11.08chuckgThey have. They did.
21:11.29NeoTronweird
21:12.17chuckghttp://www.dtguilds.com/images/Loatheb5.jpg
21:12.29chuckg"Level 60"
21:14.30ckknighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1IaXXQSUGo <--- lol
21:15.11CIA-1103roartindon * r31933 10Aloft/ (Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua): Aloft: Added a ton of new options. Can set alpha of raid icon/elite icon, customize colors of bars. More to come!
21:15.39Gnarfozchuckg: I thought other screenshots from that event showed that those 5 were just the 'last men standing' of a full 40 man attempt
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21:16.03Fisker-nah
21:16.08chuckghttp://www.dtguilds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5534&highlight=loatheb
21:16.09Fisker-they released fraps too i believe
21:16.11NeoTronaloft another unitframes?
21:16.17chuckgUnless I'm misremembering, that's incorrect.
21:16.22chuckgBut you can read the thread if you want.
21:16.26Gnarfozckknight: the sad thing is, in Germany there are still way too many people who'd find that unacceptable or inappropriate -.-
21:16.27chuckg"15 gigs of fraps" is a big hint, for me.
21:16.33kergothaloft is another nameplates modifier addon
21:16.38kergothseems promising
21:16.48ckknightGnarfoz: hehe, I just find it hilarious
21:16.49NeoTronah
21:16.56TheKarnIndustrial, the one in branches
21:16.58Gnarfozme, too
21:17.01TheKarnthe trunk is still 0.9
21:17.16TheKarn/branches/KC_Items/Ace2/KC_Items
21:17.18Gnarfozbut I'm part of the young generation here, so I guess I don't count ;p
21:17.19chuckgkergoth, I messed around w/ that WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame for an hour.
21:17.25chuckgThere is no "good way" to hook it.
21:17.28chuckgAt all.
21:17.43NeoTronwish I'd ever have shadow priests in my group
21:17.53chuckgIt's either I code in another 2-3 functions and hooks or leave it as is.
21:18.05mjckergoth: autostools has now broken my brain
21:18.11chuckgIt's messy either way :|
21:18.42mjcbbiab.
21:19.15NeoTronI noticed that warlock healing spells (siphon life and drain life) are unaffected by healing debuffs
21:19.24NeoTronso I can heal on prince when I have enfeeble for example
21:19.27Fisker-lawl
21:19.33Fisker-"Thanks for the shadow priest nerf D&T"
21:19.34Fisker-hahaha
21:19.47ckknightthx 4 lettuce gnomes
21:20.17Gnarfozchuckg: ah, that's what I meant - the screenshots are (in part) by a paladin that was there but not alive during the fight, I guess I mistook that for something it wasn't
21:26.55IndustrialTheKarn: got it thx
21:27.10Industrialkergoth: linky? :D
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21:27.21Industrialkergoth: nm
21:30.07rubikhmm.. Aloft sounds cool (customizes name plates).. works well? anyone use it?
21:30.21kergothits still new, missing lots of options
21:30.34kergothnot really up to par with shadowed's nameplates modifier yet, but itll end up passing it in features
21:30.39rubiklooking through the code to see what it does...
21:30.47Fisker-rawr
21:31.25Industrialkergoth: never tried either. The thing I dislike about nameplates is that if there are alot of nameplates they shoot across the screen to be able to show as many as possible (like the blizzard target damage text). Does this prevent that?
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21:36.24Fisker-anyone know what the fux is going on?
21:36.41Fisker-Instanceloot is deleting entries when you try to resolve their itemid's
21:36.42Fisker-or whatever
21:36.50GnarfozIndustrial: you mean like this: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/nameplates.jpg ?
21:36.52Nickenyfikenthey are no know?
21:36.59Nickenyfikenknown*
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21:38.05IndustrialGnarfoz: yes
21:40.16rubikwow.. those nameplates
21:41.57Fisker-Anyone know a site where you can see a nice compiled list of healing gear for a paladin
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21:42.20sergio_Is there anyway to make nameplates show up at like 40 yards
21:42.29Gnarfozlike shadowpanther.net si for rogues, Fisker-?
21:42.36Gnarfoz*is
21:43.20Fisker-yeah
21:44.13Fisker-i need to know which instances i want to run a lot :P
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21:44.27Fisker-Finally got my healing mace from shattered halls
21:44.54NeoTronhttp://www.wow-loot.com/
21:44.56CIA-1103funkydude * r31934 10BigWigs/Azeroth/Ysondre.lua: BigWigs: Azeroth/Ysondre: some fixes
21:45.53Fisker-roar
21:45.56Fisker-i liek j00 NeoTron
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21:47.02NeoTronunfortunately not quite updated
21:47.07NeoTronlike the class gear guides
21:48.27Fisker-well then i dislike you
21:50.36Gnarfozlemme know when you find a page Fisker- ;>
21:50.36GnarfozI retired my rogue because of the recent... unneededness of rogues - shadowpanther.net was awesome, need something like it for my new paladin :D
21:50.36Fisker-site also sucks majorly
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21:53.26NeoTronI find wowhead to be a good option
21:53.33NeoTronjust create some suitable filtering
21:53.36NeoTronand off you go
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21:55.50GnarfozI use that, currently
21:56.06ZealotOnAStickomg.
21:56.21sedatedChipmunkwowhead is win$
21:56.24ZealotOnAStickAlanis Morissette "My Humps" video is funny.
21:56.54Gnarfozgief?
21:57.32ZealotOnAStickhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=W91sqAs-_-g
22:00.57Gnarfoznice url with the -_- ;D
22:01.19sedatedChipmunki think i just lost 5 iq points having watched that
22:03.32IndustrialHAH
22:03.35Industrialthats gear
22:03.37Industrialgreat
22:06.02sedatedChipmunkit doesn't make any sense
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22:07.43Industrialyes it does
22:07.48mikmawhat's new. besides me
22:07.59Industrialmikma: http://youtube.com/watch?v=W91sqAs-_-g
22:08.15hyperChipmunkit's just some woman moaning for 4 minutes
22:08.39hyperChipmunkif it was a dog, you'd take her out back and shoot her
22:09.24IndustrialhyperChipmunk: it (for me) reconfirms (is that even a word) that the original author is 1) a bimbo 2) cant write lyrics 3) is telling me that dressing slutty is ok but no touchy touchy
22:09.48HjalteCome on, she's just making fun of the awful text that is in 'my humps' :)
22:10.31Industrialand i so dont agree with 3.
22:10.34IndustrialxD
22:10.54hyperChipmunkyou mean that there's ANOTHER version of that song?
22:11.08hyperChipmunkwtf
22:11.18KodyIs the author of the Skinner addon in the channel?
22:11.45mikmaIndustrial: lol that's ALOT better than the original version
22:11.55Industrialuhu
22:13.18HjaltehyperChipmunk, in case you werent joking, here's the original http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj9swNR5-lY
22:13.32hyperChipmunkno thx
22:13.43mikmahyperChipmunk: watch that
22:13.44mikmareally.
22:14.07pastamancerit'll give you an entirely new appreciation for every other song evere
22:14.15pastamancers/evere/ever/
22:15.38mikmaalanis 1 - peas 0
22:15.40hyperChipmunki already have an appreciation for music; this is garbage
22:16.04mikmahyperChipmunk: no shit! that's why alanis' version is so funny
22:16.14Industrialand better
22:16.18hyperChipmunkno, they're both garbage
22:16.29mikmayes and still alanis' version is better
22:17.42hyperChipmunki'll stick to classical, opera, instrumentals, and musicals, thx
22:18.38Healthright.
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22:19.02mikmai'm not gonna open my mouth about that one anymore
22:19.10Healthsame
22:20.47Pucmelok
22:21.05ZealotOnAStickspeed thrash death metal j-pop ftw!
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22:21.44mikmaheadbanger music
22:22.57HealthMy bar fader is acting a bit weird. The PitBull version... I have a short fraps
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22:25.26CIA-1103funkydude * r31936 10BigWigs/Azeroth/ (Emeriss.lua Ysondre.lua): (log message trimmed)
22:25.26CIA-11BigWigs: Azeroth:
22:25.26CIA-11- Emeriss
22:25.26CIA-11- massive cleanup
22:25.26CIA-11- sync disease & infection
22:25.26CIA-11- catch resists
22:25.28CIA-11- Ysondre
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22:27.57*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
22:29.58*** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-387hhso.cable.mindspring.com)
22:30.25Stephmwckknight: the interaction lines are fun with all frames showing in a fight...
22:30.36ckknighthaven't tried it
22:31.01HealthThe slack barfader authors should wake up!
22:31.04HealthSlackers
22:31.27fireglowStephmw: you talking about Pitbull? -.-
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22:32.14Stephmwfireglow: aye
22:32.33Stephmwfireglow: it's coming along very well
22:33.15NeoTronamusing to see fixes to emeriss and ysondre and such
22:33.57CIA-1103funkydude * r31937 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: SC/Hydross: update koKR
22:34.24Funkeh`NeoTron: why?
22:34.37fireglowmhm
22:35.05Daemonahey we farm old worldboss dragons with 5-10 ppl for gold and giggles ;)
22:35.25NeoTronDaemona: I wish I could, they are never up
22:35.43NeoTronFunkeh`: because one would figure it'd work ok by now plus the demand not being high?
22:35.44Daemonaold kontinents are dead on our pvp server ;)
22:35.53NeoTronof course since they are always dead, I guess someone kills them
22:36.01Funkeh`NeoTron: there is no demand
22:36.08Funkeh`NeoTron: simply me 5 manning old content
22:36.11Daemonaits a question of perfection
22:36.11Gngsknew servers
22:36.14Daemona;)
22:36.20Funkeh`NeoTron: and seeing how shit some of the old module sare
22:36.26NeoTronheh
22:36.34NeoTronnot complaining, just sort of a flash back to the past
22:36.42DaemonaFunkeh` want data for the astromancer solaris?
22:36.45Funkeh`then again, 6 months down the line i prob think they are shit again
22:36.53Funkeh`yes please
22:37.03Daemonasec, looking for the link ;)
22:37.40Daemonahttp://www.koaschten.de/wow/beta/combat_logs/RELEASE_LOGS/Transcriptor_High_Astromancer_Solaris.lua
22:38.55Funkeh`ty
22:39.21NeoTronat times I wish some members of the guild were a bit more.. dependable
22:39.21Daemonacant tell you much
22:39.28DaemonaNeoTron ?
22:39.40NeoTronwould be nice to progress a bit faster :P
22:39.48NeoTronand not have one kara team spend one night on aran for example
22:40.11Daemonatrust me, you dont want to beta test vashj or al'ar
22:40.17NeoTronperhaps
22:40.30NeoTronbut I'd like to kill Gruul and Magtheridon and get attuned to do nightbane
22:40.41NeoTronbut we're slowly becoming better overall
22:40.46Daemona:)
22:41.01NeoTronexciting upgrade last night too
22:41.05NeoTronwand that gave me +3 spell hit!
22:41.14NeoTronoh and swapped one int for one stamina.
22:41.14Funkeh`im sure you would prefer slamming your head against hydross cause the healers can't keep up
22:41.15Funkeh`:P
22:41.33Daemonahydross is so fucking easy since the crushing blow nerf...
22:41.35NeoTronFunkeh`: is that worse or better than doing the same on, oh, Prince?
22:41.47Funkeh`worse
22:41.55Funkeh`you get 25x repair costs instead of 10
22:42.04NeoTronwell
22:42.10NeoTronthat doesn't affect _me_ :P
22:42.16Funkeh`hunter?
22:42.21DaemonaFunkeh` how well is the nature resi tanks gear?
22:42.23NeoTronlock
22:42.31NeoTronbut I mean, I don't pau more than my own repairs
22:42.40NeoTronso I don't care if 9 or 24 other ppl die
22:42.48Funkeh`daemona: not sure how much but pretty well NR geared, with about 18k hp, we doing the tactic of keeping him in nature phase
22:42.58Funkeh`but we periodically get 21k hits or waht..
22:42.58hyperChipmunkhow do you get the elite icon in aloft?
22:43.03Daemonakk, was about to suggest that :)
22:43.19NeoTronI do have that winning strategy tip for when we eventually get there. :-P
22:43.35Funkeh`doesn't seems to be winning :/
22:43.40CIA-1103roartindon * r31938 10Aloft/ (Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua): Aloft: Added level text display options
22:43.48NeoTroncompared to Gruul/Maulgar, how hard is Magtheridon ow? (given a guild that hasn't killed gruul yet, not one that is farming SSC)
22:43.55Funkeh`not much to do when your MT gets hit for 21k and he has 18k hp
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22:44.08NeoTronget  a druid MT with 22K hp? :P
22:44.16shieldbI'd say magtheridon is tougher then gruul/maulgar, NeoTron
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22:44.32Funkeh`NeoTron, the only hard part is killing the channelers, then getting your members to click a box
22:44.46hyperChipmunkno, get a hunter with 95% dodge/parry =)
22:44.49NeoTronI can imagine clicking on a box will be very hard to organize
22:44.55Funkeh`yeah it can be
22:45.04NeoTronbtw, void reaver - AR fight?
22:45.13Daemonaonly in melee range
22:45.17Daemona200 is enough
22:45.36NeoTronhoping my 285 (buffed) ar will be useful for something other than curator :P
22:46.39NeoTronhmm voidreaver really doesn't seem very complex
22:47.46Healthckknight: If I would like to have race in class color in Class Text, is that doable with a watchdog tag?
22:47.58ckknightuse [race] or [smartrace]
22:48.06Funkeh`Daemona how much does HP does your mt have wiht nr gear?
22:49.11ckknightHealth: I think [raidcolor] or [classcolor] does the color
22:49.16Daemonadunno, but as he is tauren, at the def cap and 365 nr resi... i assume 20k+
22:49.21HealthThanks!
22:49.36Funkeh`mm
22:50.22NeoTronMan nerf horde and their tauren OP warriors!
22:51.39Stephmwbut they're such a big target!
22:52.46NeoTronwatching this voidreaver video is amusing
22:52.56NeoTronhalf the people don't even try to avoid the aoe bolt things it seems
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22:56.18Healthckknight: I got it the way I wanted. Yay! Missed that there were stuff more to the left in the input field. Found useful tags there.
22:56.21Daemonawe play max avoidance by moving for ranged and 200+ arcane resists for melee
22:56.32Daemona3 tanks, tanks gear no resist
22:56.35ckknightHealth: :-)
22:57.59CIA-1103rophy * r31939 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.toc core.lua):
22:57.59CIA-11SimpleCombatLog:
22:57.59CIA-11- Quick fix for error: core.lua:454: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got boolean).
22:58.06CIA-1103funkydude * r31940 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: Sc/Leotheras: fix by prodomo
22:59.08Funkeh`ty rophy
22:59.28SoleFunkeh`: What server do you play on?
22:59.55Funkeh`Arathor, Sole
22:59.57Soledoes anyone know the name of the addon which creates a box that displays your attack power, crit, wep speed etc?
23:00.02Funkeh`EU
23:00.09SoleFunkeh`: ok, not the same one then :p
23:02.06shieldbSole, you mean independantly from just bringing up your character window? o_0
23:02.27Soleshieldb: yes, its a little black box
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23:03.52kergothSole: i remember seeing http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6034-ImaCutYou.html and http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6233-FubarDakSmak.html
23:03.57kergothdunno if theres any others
23:04.21Solekergoth: thanks I'll check em out
23:06.10Solekergoth: nope those arent it :(
23:06.30kergoth:\
23:06.38kergothlet me know if you find it, i want something like that too
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23:17.34ckknightI'ma cut you, I'ma cut you so bad you goin' wish I no cut you so bad
23:17.43CIA-1103kaybe * r31941 10Grid/GridLocale-deDE.lua: Grid: Updated locale deDE
23:19.37JJSheets~whalecrit ckknight
23:19.48purlACTION crits ckknight with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. ckknight dies
23:19.48Funkeh`ckknight lol wtf
23:19.52ckknightlol wut?
23:22.15yacoobhttp://www.deviantart.com/deviation/42237163/ :)
23:22.54ckknightNerf kittens.
23:24.37CIA-1103roartindon * r31942 10Aloft/ (Aloft-enUS.lua Aloft.lua): Aloft: Added mouseover highlight options
23:26.02Funkeh`anything that can has the attack speed and power of a kitten which can manage to scratch your eyes out before you blink is imbalanced
23:26.09hyperChipmunkdo we have an equipcompare equivalent? the original stopped working for some reason
23:26.19Funkeh`eqcompare?
23:26.19ckknightEQCompare
23:26.26hyperChipmunkgood deal
23:28.11ZealotOnAStickEQCompare is a bit buggyish.
23:28.18ZealotOnAStickI'd recommend tekKompare myself.
23:28.35NightHawkTheSaneyeah. I like tekkompare
23:31.18CIA-1103funkydude * r31943 10BigWigs/Azeroth/ (Lethon.lua Taerar.lua):
23:31.18CIA-11BigWigs: Azeroth: Lethon & Taerar:
23:31.19CIA-11- cleanup
23:31.19CIA-11- scan for resists
23:31.19CIA-11- sync
23:31.31TecnoBratlol
23:31.37TecnoBratsorry that commit makes me laugh
23:31.46TecnoBratoh noes LETHON!
23:32.37Funkeh`im glad i ammused you
23:33.07hyperChipmunknobody says you have to use it; it's professional pride to do things right and in completeness when making an addon
23:33.59TecnoBratNo .. its kinda an inside joke I guess ... a bunch of guys on my server tried to pug some green dragons .. and wiped multiple times
23:34.06Funkeh`oh and btw thanks for the hand hyperChipmunk managed to get the event names as you can see :)
23:34.10TecnoBratGreen Dragons > level 70s
23:34.35Funkeh`Skill > Green Dragons
23:34.42hyperChipmunk=)
23:34.45Funkeh`if you've never done them before don't expect to walk all over them
23:36.12hyperChipmunkrofl i install tekkompare and equipcompare works again
23:36.26Funkeh`O.o
23:36.31NightHawkTheSanewhy would you have both? o_0
23:36.43hyperChipmunkcuz i forgot to disable it
23:36.51hyperChipmunkwhen i installed tekkompare
23:36.58NightHawkTheSanebah, enough of your reasonable and logical explanations
23:37.06hyperChipmunksry
23:37.12Funkeh`lol
23:37.22art3mishyperChipmunk: but in a boss  mod for Gamon
23:38.03hyperChipmunkrofl that's seriously messed up
23:38.11hyperChipmunkequipcompare hasn't worked for weeks
23:38.16hyperChipmunkintstall tekkompare, it works
23:38.27hyperChipmunkturn off tekkompare, it works just fine
23:39.56Funkeh`ehh
23:40.05Funkeh`maybe tekkompare changes settings when you run it
23:40.13CIA-1103totalpackage * r31944 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):
23:40.13CIA-11Cellular
23:40.13CIA-11- added option to auto-minimize new whispers if in combat (disabled by default)
23:40.15Funkeh`that you changed that made equipcompare break
23:40.18hyperChipmunkwell even the /command didn't work
23:40.20NightHawkTheSanemaybe tekkompare is a MAGIC PANANCEA!
23:40.29Funkeh`'-_-
23:40.38hyperChipmunk/equipcompare produced "Type /help to get a list of commands."
23:40.54Funkeh`strange
23:41.26hyperChipmunkTekkub: you're a miracleworker!
23:41.43hyperChipmunkwhere's the option to only show when Ctrl is pressed now?
23:41.44TekkubI did what now?
23:41.49hyperChipmunkscroll up
23:41.53Tekkubin the code, like alwayso
23:43.28hyperChipmunkstop bein' lazy
23:43.35hyperChipmunkdo it for me
23:44.00IndustrialThe answer lies in the code Luke. See the code, feel the code, be the code. (what.. am i mixing things up here?)
23:44.49Funkeh`feel the code?
23:44.58hyperChipmunkTekkub would like that
23:45.01Funkeh`is that legal?
23:45.01NightHawkTheSaneill feel YOUR code
23:45.22Tekkubmeh
23:45.31NightHawkTheSanein 47 states, yes
23:46.42IndustrialI coded your mom.
23:48.01Funkeh`wow
23:48.03Funkeh`good job
23:48.21Industrialthats what she said
23:48.23Industrialoooooowwwwww
23:48.26Industriallol ;x
23:52.59CIA-1103sayclub * r31945 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: Grid: Updated locale koKR
23:53.23Industrialkergoth: http://loop.luaforge.net/
23:53.31Industrialkergoth: dont know if you know it, just found it
23:54.35NeoTronI really don't understand why sexual jokes about "your mom" are considered even remotely funny
23:55.06NeoTronUR MOM LOLOLOL!!onE1!!
23:55.47JJSheetsthey aren't funny... the insult implied is amusing to juvenile people.
23:56.11NeoTronthat must be it
23:56.16Industrialhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_mom
23:56.21JJSheetslol
23:56.24Industrial:D
23:56.24NeoTronof course what might be funny is if someone actually gets insulted by it
23:56.35JJSheetsNeoTron, that too.  :)
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23:57.15NightHawkTheSaneI take it as a given that no one is ever actually insulted by it, and as such the amusing part for me is using such a universally bad insult/joke. :P
23:57.23NeoTronleave it to that raskal Shakespeare to start this
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23:57.28JJSheetslol
23:57.28Industrialmaking the joke knowing the person wont be insulted but making it as if he would be is fun enough do make it.
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23:57.52shieldbNeoTron, Y'are a dog!
23:58.31ZealotOnAStickOoh, ok.  With the level option now, Aloft surpasses Nameplates IMO.
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23:59.47Industrialkergoth: too bad, seems i cant use it with wow

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