IRC log for #wowace on 20070404

00:00.04Ominousworking on it
00:00.04nymbiaok cool :)
00:00.04Garoun|Loupanalol IsWackyUnit, nice name;)
00:00.04Ominoushave added it for debuffs but it is very buggy
00:00.45nymbiaok
00:00.50art3mishrm whats a good addon for custom unit buttons?
00:01.02nymbiawell if it wipes us because i fail at tanking maulgar
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00:01.19nymbiathen i'm gonna tell my guild that you're covering their repair bill
00:01.19nymbiak?
00:01.21nymbia;)
00:01.29NightHawkTheSanelol
00:01.36art3misa wowace booth?
00:02.05Garoun|Loupanaguess that would be considered hardcore testing
00:02.22art3misonly if they tested it more than 10 times in 1 day ;P
00:02.27art3miserr "tested"
00:03.08Garoun|Loupanaonly reason Itend to delay reviewing my ui, usually takes me a full weekend to get something how I want it :/
00:04.25TecnoBratnow the test
00:06.37Ominous_argh, why whenever i add debugging does it work
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00:08.08NightHawkTheSanemaybe they're load bearing debug statements?
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00:08.40Ominous_no , just print(i.." "..variable)
00:08.49ckknightOminous: for what?
00:08.52ckknighthehe, lol
00:09.02Ominous_for my aura highlighting
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00:10.06Ominous_but what realy gets me is when auras get a red background
00:10.18AmadeoAnyone have some hot PitBull setups going on? Let me see em ;)
00:10.27Ominous_s/auras/buffs/
00:11.59nymbiaOminous: just had that happen
00:12.26Ominous_which makes no sence as there isnt even any logic to do buff colors
00:12.29nymbiaactually fairly consistant on targets with 8ish buffs
00:13.39CyrezIs SVN out of sync again?
00:14.00CyrezI keep getting 31797.
00:14.31Ominous_what does :SetDrawLayer() do?
00:15.05Garoun|Loupanahow in gods name do you play with your UF like that indy :P
00:15.07ckknightOminous: makes the layer BACKGROUND/ARTWORK/etc.
00:15.28Ominous_nymbia: im thinking that its something todo with the frame recycling
00:16.04Ominous_and not changing the vertex color
00:16.07Garoun|Loupanadon't think that was supposed to happen, I set it to Industrial layout and the portrait/castbargot detached into their own frame :)
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00:18.29Mikmawho's playing around with Portrait.lua in PitBull?
00:19.48Mikmai have to whip that person until he changes the way it worked back!
00:20.33harldephinhttp://wow.harl.de/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_040407_020323.png
00:20.38nymbiasomething's jamming when i tab target
00:21.08Ominousckknight: could my problem be due to frame recycling errors?
00:21.08Amadeoharldephin: omg, Geisterwolf!
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00:21.17ckknightOminous: what's your problem?
00:21.23Garoun|Loupanaare you usin elk harldelphin
00:21.25JoshBorkenymbia: ping
00:21.27Garoun|Loupana-
00:21.35Garoun|Loupana-l
00:21.35harldephinAmadeo: yea. omg.
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00:21.46harldephinGaroun|Loupana: no
00:21.50Ominousckknight: its as if the old vertex color is overindng the new one when it recycles a frame
00:21.54AmadeoGeist = Ghost? Is that where poltergeist comes from?
00:22.11ckknightOminous: on recycling, the vertex color is set to white.
00:22.22ckknightOminous: so it's likely your bad.
00:22.24harldephinAmadeo: yah..
00:22.34Amadeowhat's polter?
00:22.41Mikmackknight: do you have any idea why the 2D image of npc's was removed when using Class?
00:22.45ckknightno.
00:23.09harldephinAmadeo: what the..
00:23.15harldephinAmadeo: poltern = to rumble
00:23.39nymbiahighlight is breaking
00:23.42Garoun|Loupanathat global settings to show all the buttons are really nice
00:23.45ckknightNO U
00:23.48Garoun|Loupanaer all the frames
00:23.52nymbia10 seconds of lag when i target stuff
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00:25.30nymbiai turned on profiling so when it start happening again i'll let you know what function's jamming
00:25.37ckknightooh, I see it too
00:25.38harldephini'm experiencing lag when i click OneBag's button to show the bagbar-frame-thing. i'm not sure it's OneBag causing this though.
00:25.39ckknightokay
00:25.43nymbiadefinitely something in auras
00:25.49ckknighthrm.
00:25.54ckknightI blame Ominous
00:26.10ckknighthe's making new textures without deleting, I suspect.
00:26.42Ominousno
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00:26.46Ominousi am deleting textures
00:26.48Ominoushonest
00:27.02ckknightI don't believe you.
00:27.09nymbiahehe
00:27.34ckknightlemme check out the code
00:27.40hyperChipmunkyea, config mode is super-nice
00:27.55hyperChipmunkis barfader integrated yet?
00:28.21Ominousi know why
00:28.37Ominousit was me i think... but not cos of that
00:28.56Ominousckknight: its in teh ClearAuras()
00:28.58nymbiasomethings getting stuck in a loop until the target dies or their auras change
00:29.10nymbiai was hard-locked for the last 5% of maulgar's hp
00:29.18Ominousi changed it so if debufss are split the debuffs parent to frame.auraFrame2.debuffs
00:29.19ckknightouch.
00:29.26Ominousbut i didnt change clear auras
00:29.39JoshBorkenymbia: couple of things about BarFader.  1) when doing smooth, I think you should set the alpha of the manaFade bar to 0.7 (or similar).  that way you can see what the new value is right away
00:29.50hugolio
00:29.52Ominousill fix it
00:29.55hugohello ;]
00:29.58JoshBorkenymbia:  2) you should try having the smooth bar and the alpha fade at the same time, it looks hot
00:30.37nymbiaJoshBorke: throw those in ;)  it's still your module, i just molested it
00:30.56JoshBorkei'm also making minor tweaks to the code you wrote :-P
00:31.03JoshBorkewill do in a moment though, fishing atm
00:31.41ckknightwhy won't youtube take my video fasteR?
00:31.42ckknightfaster*
00:33.15CIA-1103sayclub * r31813 10Cartographer_Cleanup/Cleanup.lua: Cartographer_Cleanup: Added localization koKR
00:39.46CIA-1103ominous * r31814 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: fix for the non frame recycling,
00:39.54Ominousonly got 20mins to fix auras
00:40.00Ominousas in higlighting
00:40.31_neuron_hm, could someone smarter than me take a look at pitbull's castbars and figure out why they go MIA on me
00:40.39_neuron_when I'm spamming shadowbolts it sometimes skips a castbar
00:40.48ckknight_neuron_: something wrong with stopTime
00:42.12NightHawkTheSanei've also noticed that if your target starts casting, and you drop target and target them again, the cast bar isn't active.
00:42.46ckknightthat's a bit inevitable
00:42.51ckknightafaik
00:42.57ckknightnot sure
00:43.00_neuron_I think you can actually
00:43.01ckknightnot my module
00:43.05NightHawkTheSaneeCastingBar seems to handle it well, so
00:43.16nymbiayeah
00:43.20nymbiaits doable
00:43.23_neuron_ckknight, who wrote that module btw?
00:43.29ckknight[Ammo]?
00:43.53CIA-1103ominous * r31815 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: possible fix for auras
00:43.55ckknightlemme check]
00:44.32ckknightalso, why is youtube taking so long to process my video?
00:44.46ckknightyea, ammo wrote the CastBar module
00:45.18chuckg30 second video takes ~15-30 minutes depending on load.
00:45.26chuckgYou can do the math for anything longer ;)
00:45.32hugohi, is perfectraid still ace?
00:45.57chuckgDon't think so.
00:46.01harldephinwhat's the big difference between ElkBuffBar and ElkBuffBars ?
00:46.06ckknights
00:46.12chuckgHahaha.
00:46.13harldephinyea
00:46.34harldephinanything else ?..
00:46.37PhatrikElkBuffBar = old & clunky
00:46.54KemayoElkBuffBars = new & not working. :P
00:47.03harldephingreat
00:47.09MikmaKemayo: since when it's not working?
00:47.11chuckgTake your pick!
00:47.15Mikmadid he bork it?
00:47.17Phatrikit's working ;/
00:47.28KemayoMikma: It wasn't working as well as EBB when I last tried it a week or so ago.
00:47.40Phatrikhave to delete the SavedVariables file before using the new version
00:47.41KemayoI can't speak for changes since then, of course.
00:48.10MikmaEU patch inc :P
00:48.17Mikmawtb patchnotes link
00:48.53Ominoushow do you find the dispelType for unit buffs
00:48.53Phatrik"* Fixed 2 bugs, added 4 new."
00:49.03JoshBorkeOminous broke my auras
00:49.07ckknightlol, Phatrik
00:49.09Ominoushow
00:49.18JoshBorkethey aren't disappearing
00:49.19ckknightOminous: it's a return from UnitDebuff
00:49.22ckknightlike the 5th return
00:49.26Ominousyea for debuff
00:49.31Ominousbut what about for buffs
00:49.50RoartindonHmmm.. PitBull castbars....
00:49.59Roartindon.. a nasty issue, I need some advice or comments on how to fix it
00:50.09RoartindonThe problem is basically this: you cast a spell, the castbar doesn't show at all
00:50.15Roartindonthen subsequent ones work fine
00:50.34RoartindonThe reason for this has taken me some time to track down
00:51.05RoartindonBut it's because the game is sending out the event UNIT_SPELLCAST_START - so the castbar code shows the bar, and starts processing
00:51.19RoartindonThen sends the in-combat event later.. in Combat.lua, this causes a re-layout call
00:51.22pub^bah why can't PitBull have StatusBars-like combo points so i can finally dump that old addon =(
00:51.41RoartindonAnd in Layouts/ABF.lua, the castBar layout hides the cast bar.
00:52.09chuckgSoon as someone adds oUF layout to Pitbull, I'll change :)
00:52.33_neuron_what exactly is a re-layout call and why is it called when you enter combat?
00:53.03RoartindonWas hoping that ckknight/ammo/rabbit could shed some light on it
00:53.40RoartindonI think it's because the combatIcon is dynamically created.. so it needs to be layed out.. hence the layout call
00:53.55RoartindonAnd it all seems to make sense; except for the possible out-of-expected-order events, which makes the castbar disappear
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00:54.14Kemayopub^: Describe these "StatusBars-like combo points".  If possible, provide a screenshot.
00:54.43ckknightwtf
00:54.47_neuron_Roartindon, well I dont see why they'd need to redo anything related to the castbar on any event really
00:54.48ckknightit shouldn't hide in the layout
00:54.51ckknightbad whoever made that.
00:55.02_neuron_you could reset it on zone change, but besides that it shouldn't be modified imo
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00:55.46harldephingn8 _neuron_
00:56.01nymbiawoo 4 piece t4
00:57.24RoartindonOkay, so I guess the fix is removing the Hide() call from ABF.lua
00:57.41RoartindonBut doing that causes casting bars to show unpleasantly for new targets (full white)
00:57.48RoartindonI guess that's the 2nd part of the fix that needs to go somewhere
00:58.11pub^Kemayo, hmm only got this ss atm, but it shows the placeholders for the combopoints (they flash red as you acquire them), http://www.chalmers.it/~dubray/wowimgs/atiesh.png
00:59.17pub^main problem i got the with agUF style of combopoints is that they are so small and not moveable :(
01:00.07Ominousthe hide should be in ABF
01:00.13Ominousit still shows
01:00.40Ominousit just means that until there is a cast nothing will show up
01:00.49Ominousas in the frame
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01:03.30CIA-1103joshborke * r31816 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
01:03.30CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
01:03.30CIA-11- minor tweaks to the code
01:03.30CIA-11- added Fade as an option so you can fade and smooth at the same time (it's nifty)
01:03.31CIA-11- SetAlpha(0.7) when only smoothing so you can see the difference
01:05.01JoshBorkewho wanted the different barfader?
01:08.06JJSheetsman I really love some of PitBull's commit messages... :)  "argh my head"... "ok I'm stupid"... "Revert previous commit cuz I suck and it did nothing"... you guys are hi-fucking-larious.
01:09.05Phatrikwe're waiting for "added obscenities in all strings" update
01:09.14JJSheetslol
01:09.41Phatrikbtw, EU v2.0.12 mirrors up : http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors
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01:12.25RoartindonOkay, you can't hide the castBar on creation because it is given a Show() call from UpdateLayout()
01:12.40RoartindonHowever, it can be setup with SetMinMaxValues(0, 1) and SetValue(0)
01:12.46RoartindonAnd remove the :Hide() call from the layouts file
01:13.19nymbiais auras gonna kill me if i update back up to current?
01:14.35JJSheetsthem bastards shut down my server...
01:14.52ckknightyea, the castbar shouldn't really be showing/hiding
01:14.58ckknightit anything, it should just setalpha to 0/1
01:15.02ckknightor something
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01:17.05RoartindonWell, even if it sets alpha
01:17.09Roartindonthat messes up the cast-in-progress
01:17.26RoartindonThe approach that I"ve done here seems to work:
01:17.31Roartindon1. Remove the Hide() from the layouts file
01:17.47Roartindon2. Set the castbar's Min/Max to (0,1) and set the value to 0 in the OnPopulate method
01:18.16Roartindon3. something else...... there was a step 3; but it's almost 11am and I've been up all night and my brain isn't working :)
01:19.51JJSheetswell, since I can't login, I'm off to clean up my apartment for an hour or so.  ya'll have fun
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01:22.03JoshBorkequick hide!
01:24.08nymbia~flee
01:24.11purlACTION runs away screaming
01:28.22harl|awaygood night
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01:29.39Roartindonckknight: Shall I commit some code to address the disappearing castbar? Or should I send a PM to ammo about it and let him fix it? or something else?
01:30.00ckknightpastey a diff and I'll see if you should commit
01:30.40RoartindonJust the points 1+2 above it seems, I can't find a point 3
01:30.47Roartindonpoint 1 is a comment or single line removal
01:30.54Roartindonpoint 2 is +2 lines.. SetMinMax and setvalue
01:31.11ckknightokay, sure, commit
01:31.18ckknightas long as it doesn't really break anything
01:31.20RoartindonThe rest of my code is littered with ChatFrame3:AddMessage to try and track down what was happening :)
01:31.26ckknightand if it does, I'll remind the users it's in alpha
01:31.43ckknightalright, be sure to take those out
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01:33.35[A]v[P]ckknight: why did you name it pitbull :)
01:33.56Gngsksomeone suggested it in a forum thread and he liked it
01:34.17ckknight[A]v[P]: it'll bit your face off
01:34.20Gngskheh
01:34.29ckknightbite*
01:34.36ckknightGngsk: actually no one did, I came up with it on my own
01:34.46[A]v[P]hehe
01:34.57Gngskckknight, oh ok. thought I read that thread...
01:36.20ckknightI wanted something fierce and manly
01:36.24ckknightpitbull came to mind
01:36.28ckknightafter Testosterone and such
01:36.51hyperChipmunkhe would have named it hyperactiveChipmunk, but that was already taken
01:37.24syerenI see Pitbull is coming along amazingly ckknight :)
01:37.39knarf^_^ckknight so you find unitframes manly ? :>
01:37.55ckknightmine are.
01:38.21kergothlooks like svn.wowace.com/wowace is locked, which is preventing the svnsync
01:38.27kergothfrom what i can tell from here anyway
01:39.10kergothoh, right, its .. renchap's machine, it seems
01:39.11kergothrenchap: ping
01:39.27CIA-1103roartindon * r31817 10PitBull/ (CastBar/CastBar.lua Layouts/ABF.lua): (log message trimmed)
01:39.27CIA-11PitBull:
01:39.27CIA-11- CastBars could magically disappear before. If combat is initiated with a
01:39.27CIA-11ranged attack (eg. Fireball) and a 2nd cast occurs relatively quickly after,
01:39.27CIA-11then the game could send a UNIT_SPELLCAST_START before it sends the in-combat
01:39.28CIA-11event (PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED). The Combat code would create a combat icon, then
01:39.32CIA-11call a relayout of frames. The relayout of frames called ABF.lua's castBar
01:39.44kergothrenchap: looks like you might have a stalled sync process, or one that was interrupted.  your mirror hasnt updated in 20 revisions
01:39.47kergothhm
01:39.56hyperChipmunkO_o
01:40.06hyperChipmunkwtf kind of commit message is that
01:40.23[A]v[P]kinda long isnt it
01:40.28kergothah, i see
01:40.58hyperChipmunkobviously you didn't see JJSheets's comment earlier about pitbull commit messages
01:41.09RoartindonOh, what did he say?
01:41.20RoartindonSorry, used to long-ish commit messages from my work
01:41.29RoartindonBecause people look in the svn repo for answers before anywhere else.
01:41.52hyperChipmunk21:08 < JJSheets> man I really love some of PitBull's commit messages... :)  "argh my head"... "ok I'm stupid"... "Revert previous commit cuz I suck and it did nothing"... you  guys are hi-fucking-larious.
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01:42.24hyperChipmunksee, there's a format!
01:43.01Roartindoneh, where I work, if someone doesn't understand a line of code or what's happening, they'll do a svn blame and lookup that revisions notes first of all
01:43.27hyperChipmunki'm being facetious =P
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01:45.05JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: i make sure to blame nymbia in all my commits...
01:45.09kergothrenchap: assuming that there are no current svnsync processes running on your end (there arent any on wowace.com itself), please run svn propdel --revprop -r0 svn:sync-lock  on the svn.wowace.com/wowace repository.  I don't have write access to it, so can't fix it myself.
01:47.30Roartindonkergoth: is that what's stopping svn.wowace.com from being in-sync with dev.wowace.com?
01:47.34kergothyep
01:47.43kergothlooks like an svnsync process stalled
01:47.47kergothleaving its lock property in place
01:47.51kergothor got killed, or whatever
01:49.20JoshBorkei'm syncying from dev
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01:50.11CyrezI mentioned that a while ago but nobody cares about me. </3
01:50.15JoshBorkesvn looks up to date with dev...
01:50.16JoshBorkeoh wait
01:50.20CyrezIt's been stuck at r37197.
01:50.29kergothits like 20 revs behind
01:50.29kergothyea
01:50.35JoshBorkehaving a local pointer to svn doesn't help, huh...
01:50.54ckknighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWHdG3Dyg4g <-- Australia
01:51.12kergothsigh.. the repository uuids dont match, i cant switch my personal mirror to dev. now that i've been using svn.
01:51.27kergothi've advised forcing the uuid on the mirror for as long as i can remember, but nobody listens to me..
01:51.40ckknightI listen
01:51.55ckknightnot well
01:51.56ckknightbut I do
01:52.04kergothhehe
01:52.20ckknightwatch my youtube video!
01:52.22ckknightit's funny
01:52.24ckknightat least it's supposed to be
01:55.43Ominousrofl ckk
01:55.56ckknighthehe
01:56.59JoshBorkekergoth: you want me to change my uuid and you can sync from me temporarily
01:57.18ckknightnext one'll be on Global Warming
01:57.52kergothJoshBorke: no worries, i figured out which properties to change to relocate my mirror to dev.wowace.com
01:58.03kergothsvn:sync-from-uuid and svn:sync-from-url revprops on revision 0
01:58.18kergoththen a quick svn admin load to force the uuid of the mirror to dev.wowace.com's repo, and i can sync up to HEAD
01:58.42JoshBorke:-)
01:58.56Funkeh`ckknight: lol
01:59.00Funkeh`is that episode 2?
01:59.07ckknightthat is
01:59.13ckknight2 episodes published now
01:59.19ckknightI have 5 planned thus far
01:59.33Funkeh`LOL austria
01:59.33ckknightbut I plan to keep it going for as long as it remains funny
01:59.50trhckknight: the room is faked, isn't it? =)
01:59.58ckknightit's my room
02:00.14trhya, but you don'T really have a flag + poster of bush there usually, or?
02:00.21ckknightbut if you're asking about the george bush picture and the American flag, those are my mom's
02:00.26Funkeh`ckknight: near the end with the eggs its kinda easy to see your trying to stop yoursself from bursting out laughing
02:00.27trhlol :)
02:00.35kergothargh, what i didnt anticipate is that the 'piston' tool i use to update my addons from my mirrors also stores the upstream uuid...
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02:00.48kergothnow to write a python script to go find all the ones with the svn.wowace.com uuid and change them to the other
02:00.51ckknightFunkeh`: it's all pretty much impromptu
02:00.58kergothat least pysvn is painless
02:01.30trhckknight: the southern dialect is hilarious ;)
02:01.48ckknighthehe, yea.
02:02.57trhchicken's good... real good.. rofl ;)
02:03.36ckknightwatch the whole thing
02:06.58hyperChipmunkthe anti-beef anti-dairy thing doesn't go with the cowboy hat very well
02:06.59Temckknight, is that you?
02:06.59ckknightyea
02:06.59Temodd
02:06.59ckknighthyperChipmunk: it's ironic
02:06.59Temit doesn't sound *anything* like the interview
02:06.59ckknightTem: how so?
02:07.00ckknightthat's because I don't have a southern accent irl
02:07.00Temyeah, but like
02:07.00hyperChipmunkoh, just got to the end
02:07.12Temthe pitching is 100% different
02:07.34NightHawkTheSaneprobably has somethign to do with how each were recorded
02:07.48Temprobably
02:08.13nymbiaventrilo does funny things too
02:08.45ckknightyea
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02:09.50Tem"on the wikipedia"
02:09.53Temnice
02:10.24Temyour wording is quite funny, but more suited to an allabama accent than a texas one, imo
02:10.30Tembut then you lose all the bush jokes
02:10.40ckknightI'm not trying to be Texan
02:10.53ckknightI'm trying to be "southern"
02:10.54Temthen what are you going for?
02:10.57ckknightpossibly Alabama
02:11.03ckknightor Georgia
02:11.08trhckknight: the 'student' in the profile and the not-so-bright type doesn't really fit together
02:11.55Temalabama people have more "twang" to the accent
02:11.58ckknightI say I go to community college in the Australia episode
02:12.02ckknightTem: twang how?
02:12.04trhah.. ok
02:12.13Temugh explaining it is hard
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02:12.24ckknightdang
02:12.49Temalso, alabama people would be more likely to have a confederate flag in the background
02:12.52ckknighttrh: still haven't decided on a real job yet or anything
02:12.58Temand probably not a picture of dubya
02:13.03ckknightTem: meh, I'm just pro-Bush
02:13.06ckknightpro-America
02:13.09ckknightanti-Terr'r
02:13.20Temthen go for the texas accent!
02:13.31ckknighthow do I do that?
02:13.37ckknightI don't know any southerners
02:13.45NightHawkTheSaneget a frontal lobotomy, that might help. >.>
02:13.48Tembtw, southerners don't really talk like that
02:13.49ckknightI'm just going on instinct here
02:13.59ckknightlike what?
02:14.00trhckknight: i think waiter at a bar or sth. like that would fit!
02:14.19Temokay fine, there are loads of people who talk with one of the many steriotypical accents, but you don't meet em in a city
02:14.21ckknightI'm supposed to be 18 in the video
02:14.55syerenOooh.
02:15.02syerenFuror confirmed no Tier 6 in TK \o/
02:15.08hyperChipmunkmy girlfriend's father talks with a similar accent, actually
02:15.15hyperChipmunkalabaman
02:15.38Temrelistening to the first one, I really get the texas impression
02:15.44Temway more than alabama
02:15.49hyperChipmunkoh, yea
02:16.04hyperChipmunkthe subject matter says he's from texas
02:16.25Temso does the cowboy hat and bush photo in the bg
02:16.30hyperChipmunkright
02:18.58ZealotOnAStick"<syeren> Furor confirmed no Tier 6 in TK \o/" - Uhm, in Tempest Keep?  Duh, it's T5.  WTH?
02:20.42syerenYou never know after Ragnaros ;)
02:20.48syerenThat was the key part :p
02:25.48TecnoBratis there any addons that track trash respawn times?
02:25.51nymbiat6 is black temple.. they already posted that
02:27.08ckknighttrash temple
02:28.04ckknightlol
02:31.04JoshBorkedid anyone else not find that funny?  cause i sure didn't :-P
02:31.36NightHawkTheSanei didai was reasonably asmued
02:31.49NightHawkTheSanewow, i should look at what i'm typing. >.>
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02:41.15kergoth<3 pysvn
02:41.29ckknight<3 your mom
02:42.05kergothpysvn is my mom, i'm not human, i'm a python script.
02:42.50ckknightfigures
02:44.04hyperChipmunkdon't snakes eat their young?
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02:45.09kergoth<purple_cow> hah. apparently the NY google office had an announcement about a python. everyone thought guido was coming to visit, but someone's pet snake had escaped from their office :)
02:45.12kergothhehe
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02:46.28ckknightlol
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02:53.58JoshBorkeso no one has anything to complain about barfader?
02:54.00JoshBorkehow is that possible?
02:54.09RoartindonMaybe no one has installed it :)
02:54.27Herioit's not my style
02:54.37HerioACCOMMODATE ME
02:54.38JoshBorkeit's wicked awesome :-P
02:55.07hyperChipmunkJoshBorke: actually, that's pretty much exactly what i was going to say
02:55.32hyperChipmunkthe fade/slide as slick as poo
02:56.30hyperChipmunkit's a bit jittery still, sometimes, though
02:57.57hyperChipmunkif you disable and re-enable fading, the jitter goes away
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02:58.23Tembarfader?
02:58.27hyperChipmunklooking for a pattern that starts it
02:58.44hyperChipmunkTem: coolest thing ever =)
02:58.55JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: fading + smoothing = sechz
02:59.29Temwhat's it do? (if you say "fades bars" [or something functionally equivilant] I will kb you. I swear)
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02:59.45Heriokb?
02:59.48JoshBorkeyou have to see it in action to understand
02:59.48Heriokilling blow?
02:59.55Heriohow about a lb? loving blow?
02:59.58hyperChipmunkJoshBorke: yes
02:59.59JoshBorkebasically it shows the difference in the change in value
03:00.25JoshBorkeit was very hard
03:00.25Tem*sigh*
03:00.29Temwhere can I download it to see?
03:00.31hyperChipmunkthe chunk of the bar that gets lopped off by a hit or a heal instead of disappearing, fades out
03:00.37Temoh
03:00.41JoshBorketem:  off the svn
03:00.41TemI have that installed
03:00.43TemI heart it
03:00.48OverloadUTOhhh that does sound cool
03:00.51OverloadUTLike, really cool
03:00.54hyperChipmunkbut now it does a smooth slide, too
03:01.09Temmeh, I wrote a thing a while back that made all statusbars slide
03:01.10hyperChipmunkso it fades it, then slides the bar down to the new value
03:01.22Temit was kinda cool, but I like the barfader effect more better
03:01.23hyperChipmunkone or the other is cool
03:01.33hyperChipmunkbut together, JoshBorke is right
03:01.37hyperChipmunkit's really slick
03:01.54Temhmm
03:02.35Temodd...
03:02.38hyperChipmunkit brings the alpha like it's fading
03:02.47hyperChipmunkbut instead of fading entirely out
03:02.51hyperChipmunkit wipes it
03:03.19JoshBorkei tested changing teh alpha using cosine interpolation but you can't tell a difference
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03:03.42hyperChipmunkuntil it starts jittering
03:03.48hyperChipmunkthen it's friggin annoying
03:03.50Temoh
03:03.53TemI know the gitter
03:03.58JoshBorkefigure out the jitter
03:04.01TemI experienced it myself in my statusbar fader
03:04.13TemJoshBorke, between me and Iriel, we couldn't figure it out
03:04.13JoshBorkeis it a value jitter or alpha jitter?
03:04.20Temvalue jitter
03:04.20hyperChipmunkvalue
03:04.28hyperChipmunkthe end of the bar goes wonky
03:04.33Tem*nod*
03:04.45hyperChipmunkreminds me of EQ =P
03:04.59Temso I changed my implementation method and the problem fixed itself
03:05.07JoshBorkewell if neither tem nor iriel could fix it i'm not gonna worry about it :-D
03:05.08hyperChipmunklol
03:05.20JoshBorkeboth are WAY smarter than i am
03:05.20Tembut conceptually, we couldn't find a problem with how I had done it before
03:05.23hyperChipmunktem fix it; he just don't know how =D
03:05.26TemI doubt that very much
03:05.48hyperChipmunkthing is, it works well for awhile
03:05.49JoshBorkei <3 the bar growing
03:06.00Fisker-so many people to destroy, so little time
03:06.22hyperChipmunkor maybe it's just i don't notice it when the difference is small
03:06.41hyperChipmunkhmm
03:06.44hyperChipmunkno, that's not it
03:06.54hyperChipmunkbugger if i can figure it out
03:07.30Temerm
03:07.38Temhow do you change the settings for it?
03:07.48hyperChipmunkshift rclick on the bar
03:07.52hyperChipmunkBarFader
03:08.02JoshBorkenot really anything you can change for it
03:08.12hyperChipmunkyea, it's just on/off
03:08.42TemI don't see a difference?
03:09.05JoshBorkeseems it's smoothing regardless
03:09.05Temwhat revision do you have?
03:09.19hyperChipmunkwhatever latest is
03:09.27hyperChipmunkthere's three options in the submenu?
03:09.50TemI don't have an options menu at all
03:09.54hyperChipmunkcheck the first and third ones
03:09.59hyperChipmunkwell that's a problem =x
03:10.05hyperChipmunkag barfader or pitbull?
03:10.06TemI did an svn update right before logging in though...
03:10.06JoshBorkeit's not in core tem
03:10.14Temoh, then that's the deal
03:10.19Temag
03:10.20hyperChipmunkoh
03:10.36hyperChipmunkya, there ya go =p
03:11.01JoshBorkeit's PitBull_BarFader
03:11.01hyperChipmunkpitbull just became useable enough today to replace ag
03:11.07Temmeh
03:11.16Temtoo much effort
03:11.35Fisker-oh hi i just upgraded your ram
03:11.38hyperChipmunk~feed tem
03:11.39purlACTION offers tem some herring
03:11.40JoshBorkeit was bar fader, wasn't it hyperChipmunk, don't lie :-P
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03:11.59hyperChipmunkJoshBorke: that's exactly it
03:12.17hyperChipmunk~whaleslap Fisker-
03:12.19purlACTION beats Fisker- upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
03:13.24JoshBorkelittle bug fix incoming, it still runs even if you disable smoothing and faiding, it just does whatever it was set to last
03:13.30JoshBorkewhen it should be equivalent to ignoring
03:13.42JoshBorkeshould there be an option to set the duration?
03:14.34hyperChipmunkthe slide speed?
03:14.39JoshBorkeyea
03:14.56hyperChipmunknot necessary i think
03:14.57tem|FOODwhat algorithm do you use for that?
03:14.57hyperChipmunkit's good
03:15.03tem|FOODsimple exponentiation?
03:15.10JoshBorketem|FOOD: sliding?  cosign interpolation
03:15.19tem|FOODoh lol nice
03:15.19JoshBorkes/gn/ne/
03:15.32JoshBorkeit's really simple, so whatever
03:15.45tem|FOODyeah, but it's fancier than what I did
03:16.04tem|FOODI just did setvalue((dest-current)/2)
03:16.07hyperChipmunkyea, i was going to suggest it, because nobody seems to do it that way
03:16.08tem|FOODer
03:16.12tem|FOODwell you know what I meant
03:16.30JoshBorkei'm pretty sure that what i'm doing is actually more expensive than calculation, time to do some testing
03:16.36hyperChipmunkbut first time i tried, was obvious you already beat me to it
03:17.00JoshBorkeit was stolen from dreamchat :-D
03:17.18JoshBorkewell, technically i stole it from my own mod, but i got that code from dreamchat
03:17.55hyperChipmunkoh, the windowshading?
03:18.14JoshBorkeyea
03:18.23JoshBorkei use it for fading half my UI in/out of combat
03:18.33hyperChipmunki remember that when i gave it a look-see
03:22.09tem|FOODthe cosign interpolation?
03:22.14tem|FOODs/gn/ne/
03:22.59tem|FOODit's cheap enough imo
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03:26.11JoshBorketem|FOOD: yea, it is cheap.  i was saving the calculation for mu2 (the 1-cos(mu*pi))/2) which is more expensive than actually calculating it everytime
03:26.52JoshBorketable indexing ftl
03:27.49KemayoIndustrial: Changing to your layout in PitBull detaches the highlight from the main frame...
03:29.18JoshBorkebah!  where is ckknight when you need him
03:29.54JoshBorkenymbia: ping
03:34.45nymbiaJoshBorke: sup
03:35.32Funkeh`nymbia!
03:35.56JoshBorkehm, nvm
03:36.19nymbiaFunkeh`!
03:36.30Funkeh`make the servers turn on :(
03:36.41nymbiathey are on! ;)
03:36.57Funkeh`eu ones !
03:37.16nymbiapft
03:38.33NightHawkTheSanemeh, you know that when they come on, they'll just be filled with retards and slackers anyway. :P
03:38.51Funkeh`better known as my guild
03:39.01CIA-1103joshborke * r31818 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
03:39.01CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
03:39.01CIA-11- minor tweaks. don't show the frame until we finish setting up then add it to processing table
03:39.01CIA-11- equate not fading and not smoothing to ignored
03:39.01CIA-11- specifically check for all styles now
03:39.02CIA-11- don't blame me if your computer blows up.
03:39.32NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: better known as the entire player base of every mmog ever published.
03:39.32Funkeh`joshborke wtf it broken!
03:39.40Funkeh`lol
03:40.11JoshBorkewhat can i say?  it's a gift
03:40.14JoshBorkeand a curse
03:44.37JJSheetsJoshBorke, my computer blew up.  I'm holding YOU responsible!
03:44.59Chompersas did mine, how do i remove shards of glass from my face?
03:45.02JoshBorkethat's ok, i'm indemnified by my last commit
03:45.05Funkeh`yet you can still talk on irc?
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03:45.16JoshBorkehe's ogt a screen reader
03:45.17Chompersstill got one good eye
03:45.21JoshBorke~dict indemnified
03:45.24JJSheetsI owned two computers... now I only own one.  :p
03:45.25Chompersmicrosoft sams reading it to me
03:45.46Arrowmasterlol were sacrificing a naked priest to kill mobs in a heroic without doing anything
03:46.00JoshBorkei wish i could do that :-(
03:46.01JJSheetssounds kinky.
03:46.09Funkeh`with mc?
03:46.10JoshBorkeno paladin/priest in my group
03:46.15Arrowmasteryes
03:46.16JoshBorkejust a crappy tree druid
03:46.18Funkeh`i get told to do that all the time -_-'
03:46.28Arrowmasterturned a 6 pull into a 3 pull
03:46.31Funkeh`but mind soothe haxx on SH mobs ftw
03:46.46JoshBorkeFunkeh`: where you use mind sooth?
03:46.56Funkeh`very final pack ebfore first boss
03:47.01Funkeh`theres like 9
03:47.08Funkeh`use MS on furthest mob to th right
03:47.10JoshBorkethe room with the sleepers?
03:47.12Funkeh`creep around
03:47.14Funkeh`aye
03:47.20Funkeh`obviously kill the wolfs
03:47.33JoshBorkewe haven't tried heroic mode yet
03:47.40JoshBorkebut in normal we pull the sleepers first
03:48.02Funkeh`you can avoid them compltetely
03:48.18Funkeh`need to screenshot it actually
03:48.39Arrowmasterwe had an undergeared priest as the only healer for SH and just skipped that 7 pull
03:48.48Arrowmastertried forever to kill it but couldnt without the priest dying
03:49.05Funkeh`those hunters with viper string are a bitch
03:49.08JoshBorkei've never skipped any pulls in there...didn't know you could...
03:49.13JoshBorkeHATE @ scatter shot
03:50.42JoshBorkei can handle every other mob in the instance, no big deal.  but HATE @ scatter shot
03:52.56Arrowmasterhave you ever tried mindcontroling the tribsmen in heroic underbog?
03:53.03Arrowmasterthey rape faces
03:53.13JoshBorkei've only done SP on heroic
03:53.28JoshBorkewhich was pretty bad, but i was ok with it
03:53.52Arrowmasterone of our warriors can single pull the slave handlers at the start of SP
03:53.54JoshBorkefury warrior, prot warrior, shadow priest, tree druid, feral druid.  none had been to heroics at all
03:54.04Arrowmasterouch
03:54.08Arrowmasteryou really need more CC than that
03:54.18Funkeh`Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. (MGM) is teaming with the U.S. Navy to capture a series of bone chilling adventure scenes for the studio's upcoming Stargate SG-1 direct-to-DVD movie, Stargate: Continuum.   Cast membersincluding Ben Browder (Stargate SG1's Lt. Colonel Cameron Mitchel l) and Amanda Tapping (Lt. Colonel Samantha Carter) will travel to the sub-zero climate of the Arctic to...
03:54.20Funkeh`...shoot at the Navy's Applied Physics Laboratory Ice Station (APLIS) for the week of March 23 through 29.
03:54.40Arrowmasterwe usually run with 2 of the following, mage warlock or rogue
03:54.42JoshBorkeas long as the feral druid didn't pull i could MC and get one killed
03:56.54Arrowmasterlol somebody just asked if we can keep the mc'd acolyte in heroic shadow lab
03:57.06JoshBorkelol
03:57.09Arrowmasterthing has renews that tick for 1130 and 12k heals
03:57.15JoshBorkeyea, they are nice
03:57.15Funkeh`erm
03:57.19JoshBorkebut the cooldown is too long
03:57.22Funkeh`i want the healers in H SP
03:57.29JoshBorkeyea, me too
03:57.33Funkeh`holy nova for 11k, heal for 22k
03:57.35Arrowmasterwhat do they do?
03:57.43JoshBorkei got a 25k heal :-D
03:58.05JoshBorkeanyway, night guys
03:58.23Funkeh`gn
03:59.50CIA-1103chuckg * r31819 10SpellWatch/SpellWatch.lua: (log message trimmed)
03:59.50CIA-11SpellWatch:
03:59.50CIA-11- Added anchor height/width setting.
03:59.50CIA-11- Self Buffs/Auras now catch fades on the player, previously only worked on friendly/enemies.
03:59.50CIA-11- Spells which are not currently in a group cancel one another out. That doesn't
03:59.51CIA-11really make sense, so I added a condition that if the group is "", subsequent
03:59.55CIA-11bars will not be Unregistered. This applies to buffs and spells.
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04:24.08Arrowmasterok fel oversearers in heroic shadow lab should not fucking respawn!
04:24.22nymbiayou can ninja past
04:24.47CIA-1103chuckg * r31820 10SpellWatch/SpellWatch.lua:
04:24.47CIA-11SpellWatch:
04:24.47CIA-11- Added colorfade option, which fades bars to red as a timer is nearing completion.
04:24.47CIA-11- Fixed an error with the rank handling when a skill had no rank.
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04:32.13CIA-1103chuckg * r31821 10cgCrafty/cgCrafty-deDE.lua:
04:32.13CIA-11cgCrafty: Revision 2.0.68
04:32.13CIA-11- Updated deDE locale for the new search.
04:32.24chuckgOh I'm busy tonight!
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04:43.56nymbiaFunkeh`: doin c'thun eh?
04:44.04Funkeh`yeah
04:44.05Funkeh`5man
04:44.11nymbiaheh
04:44.19Funkeh`with the servers offline
04:44.22Funkeh`we are uber
04:44.27nymbiaamazing
04:44.34Funkeh`:p
04:44.51nymbiaPS could you make gruulassist only beep madly at me for the 10 seconds after ground slam? ;)
04:45.30chuckgI did gruul for the first time since the nerfs today.
04:45.39chuckgIt's like ... doing Rag.
04:45.43Funkeh`but you're a gnome..
04:45.46Funkeh`you need beeps
04:45.48nymbiaPRETTY HARD
04:45.55nymbiadamn
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04:52.14Funkeh`string.format is evil mkay
04:54.00ckknightno it's not
04:54.23chuckgAxis of Evil.
04:56.26sedatedChipmunkstring.format is awesome
04:56.32sedatedChipmunkconcatenation ftl
04:59.17sedatedChipmunki don't think anyone needs to be subjected to that, tbh =\
04:59.36ckknightyour mom's a tube
05:00.14Funkeh`grats you found out who your real mom is
05:00.26ckknightI know my real mom.
05:00.32ckknighther name's Linda
05:00.44Funkeh`and shes a tube?
05:00.49ckknightno, she's no
05:00.53ckknightnot*
05:01.04Funkeh`hmm
05:01.18NightHawkTheSaneso... that means..
05:01.29NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`'s mom, is ckknight's dad? o_0
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05:01.41Funkeh`i wouldn't go denying it
05:05.26ckknight...
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05:10.31ZealotOnAStickPeople need a GruulAssist mod now?
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05:11.01Funkeh`i made it pre nerf
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05:11.28rubikwhat else was nerfed?
05:12.03Funkeh`ckknight's mom's cost
05:12.16ckknight...
05:12.17Dynommommy for rent
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05:17.07kenlyricoh thank god!
05:17.54Funkeh`?
05:19.01Sparhawkehahaa
05:19.06Sparhawkeloatehb update
05:19.37hasteI know people still do Naxx for fun, but was that one ever needed :p ?
05:22.56ZealotOnAStickloatheb tactical was really helpful for us when we were doing naxx pre-expansion.
05:23.06hastewhat does it do :D ?
05:23.07ZealotOnAStickIt makes that fight hard to screw up.
05:23.19ZealotOnAStickSpells out precisely when to use which consumables to stay alive.
05:23.29Phatrikbring 100 shadowpots per player, kill, loot
05:23.30ZealotOnAStickNot only prints it out, but puts BIG ICONS of them on screen.
05:23.37hasteaww, I don't like those add-ons :<
05:23.44hastehence why I use BigWigs :p
05:23.55Funkeh`neither do i
05:23.58Funkeh`hence why its external
05:24.08hasteexactly :)
05:24.19ZealotOnAStickIt's useful when you're still a 40 man raid and you have a few players riding the short bus.
05:25.19haste~seen vhaarr
05:25.50purlvhaarr <i=folk@ghybel696.krs.hia.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 7h 5m 30s ago, saying: 'winkiller: *everything* is "up to".'.
05:27.17hasteusing lua to write modules for an irc bot is rather, <3
05:34.16CIA-1103funkydude * r31826 10BigWigs_NefCount/ (4 files): BigWigs_NefCount: fixes & cleanups
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05:39.56tripoodhi
05:41.19ckknighthey tripood
05:41.23ckknightmake me a sandwich.
05:42.14Funkeh`lol
05:42.21Funkeh`random shit ftw
05:45.25CIA-1103funkydude * r31827 10BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant/ (. BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant.lua): BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant: fixes & cleanups
05:49.09trh_btw: is there a possibility to get a digest only for one or a few mods and not for all mods/commits done via email?
05:50.45nymbianot really, no
05:50.54trh_too bad :(
05:51.02nymbiajust use the changelogs in the zips if you just want single mods
05:51.22trh_i want a notify if someone else commits something to my mod so i know when i have to update from the svn :)
05:52.11trh_i think i'll setup a filter in my mail client and just route everything from normal digest that doesnt contain the modnames i'm interested in to /dev/null
05:52.53ckknightis that making you make me a sandwich any faster?
05:53.07trh_mmm... sandwich
05:53.47ckknightyea, tripood's making me one.
05:53.52ZealotOnAStickMake him a cheese sandwich.
05:53.57ZealotOnAStickWith roast beef.
05:53.58trh_i want one too, tripood
05:53.58tripoodwith a large trout
05:54.09tripoodtrh = vane ?
05:54.13trh_jep
05:54.15tripoodokay
05:54.18tripoodtripood = scrapy
05:54.20tripoodowned
05:55.28trh_if you want to get it done, do it yourself.. brb, getting breakfast
05:58.22CIA-1103funkydude * r31828 10BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows/ (. BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows.Lua): BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows: fixes & cleanups
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06:00.38Funkeh`ckknight: sing us a song in your next episode
06:00.55ckknightwhy? and what song?
06:01.24Funkeh`hmm
06:01.34Funkeh`to keep us entertained and not sure
06:01.41Funkeh`some country music!
06:01.46ckknightnext episode is Global Warming
06:01.55Funkeh`alright
06:02.02ckknightand I don't have a guitar or anything
06:02.21hastejust use fasttracker or something
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06:15.33hasteaw, it's almost impossible to upload mp3 to my mp3-player
06:15.39Funkeh`nymbia bonk!
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06:15.49hastesince it's on the server, and I don't have japanese charset on the windows computer here =\
06:18.16nymbiaFunkeh`: nice :)
06:22.55Funkeh`gonna get some rest, later all
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06:39.09CIA-1103elkano * r31831 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua):
06:39.09CIA-11ElkBuffBars
06:39.09CIA-11- fixed a bug in layout fixing code
06:39.09CIA-11- added sorting 'none'
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06:58.39Aenslaedheh, woo, reformed my arena team, made most of our rating back in one night
06:58.50Aenslaedand the name... Peons for Hire
06:58.55ckknightfun
06:58.59ckknightoh, lol
06:59.01ckknightlike the spammers
06:59.04Aenslaedyeah
06:59.21Aenslaedactually, Peons1Hire, Peons2Hire, Peons3Hire, Peons5Hire could be made
06:59.46ckknightPeons2Hire?
06:59.47ckknighterr
06:59.47Aenslaedbut peons4hire was banned. You also can't msg others that word. If you join channel peons4hire, you can't /chatwho
06:59.50ckknightPeons1Hire*?
07:00.08Aenslaedwe tried to make the arena team named Peons4Hire but it was disallowed
07:00.15ckknighthrm
07:00.16Arrowmasterlol
07:00.17Aenslaedso we had to spell it out
07:00.59nymbiaso that's why they use 'peons4h1re' in their spam now
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07:05.22xlviiyou're getting peons 4 hire too? :O
07:05.41xlviii've been getting that spam for yonks.
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07:09.34ZealotOnAStickYay, Bounto arc over.
07:09.45ckknightBounto?
07:09.51ZealotOnAStickin Bleach.
07:09.56ckknightI'm not into pokemon, sorry
07:10.06ZealotOnASticknor am I.
07:10.48Aenslaedbleach is back. naruto is back, code geass is off on break
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07:10.55Aenslaed2 out of 3, not bad
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07:11.41ArrowmasterZealotOnAStick: your a few weeks behind
07:11.55ZealotOnAStickindeed.
07:12.06ZealotOnAStickI haven't watched it for a couple of months, and I was almost a year behind then.
07:12.15ZealotOnAStickI've watched about 30 episodes the last few days, catching up.
07:12.41ZealotOnAStickI've got them all on my hard drive, been downloading them when Dattebayo releases them.
07:12.44Arrowmasterwas some serious ass kicking in the last few episodes
07:12.48ZealotOnAStickThey've just been accumulating.
07:13.16Aenslaedthe pacing is awful :/
07:13.58ZealotOnAStickI was a bit surprised, but rather glad, to see them tie up the Bounto so fast finally (except for Kariya, ugh, flaskbacks of dragonball there) once they did start on them.
07:14.26Aenslaedheh. I just didn't watch it at all
07:14.46IndustrialKemayo: yeah PitBull is changing too fast for me to keep up with a layout that supports everything. I think I'm going to wait for a 1.0 :-)
07:15.20IndustrialKemayo: I dont use the highlight myself. You are welcome to fix/patch/update it though
07:15.30Arrowmasterthe bounto filler arc was a good arc with a constant story, unlike some fillers like naruto thats just random shit every episode
07:15.45Industrial*anidb*
07:15.49ZealotOnAStickAenslaed: with Naruto back, are they done with all the filler crap?  Did they skip up to Jiraiya and older Naruto?
07:16.07Arrowmasteryeah older naruto now
07:16.07Aenslaedyeah
07:16.10Aenslaedbut the pacing is terrible
07:16.17ZealotOnAStickoh thank god.
07:16.22IndustrialZealotOnAStick: OMG U SUK i didnt watch that yet now i know hell be older :<
07:16.26ZealotOnAStickSome of the naruto filler was just terrible.
07:16.32Elkanowow... didn't know such an item existed... http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23885#00z
07:16.43Aenslaedsupposedly, the pacing is gonna be fixed by the 12 episode of the new stuff. Something about re-hiring animators
07:16.45Aenslaedand booting the koreans
07:16.49ArrowmasterElkano: it doesnt
07:17.08Industrial"I believe this has been taken out as of Live."
07:17.24Arrowmasternobodys ever seen one on live
07:17.35ZealotOnAStickFunny, one of my guildmates claims to have that schematic.  Maybe he's lying.  Wouldn't be new if he was.
07:17.39Industrialbtw anidb cant find bounto what is it
07:17.40Industrial:P
07:17.52Industrialask him to link it xD
07:17.57SunTigerIts the bleach filler arc
07:18.01SunTigerand not really all that good.
07:18.02Industrialoh bleach
07:18.19ZealotOnAStickBounto were sort of . . . spirit vampire elemental puppetmasters.  Of doom, and stuff.
07:18.32Industrialloll
07:18.33Aenslaedneed more code geass!
07:18.42SunTigerthey started off as vampires but the idea wasn't really all that good
07:18.44ZealotOnAStickThere were like . . .2 likable Bounto characters.
07:18.52SunTigermore like 1.
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07:19.05Arrowmaster1.5
07:19.15ZealotOnAStickWell, I kinda liked the water twins.
07:19.24Arrowmasterpff
07:19.58ZealotOnAStickand then . . . crap, what's his name. . . beard/headphone guy.
07:20.04SunTigeryeah
07:20.11SunTigerwith the weird metal doll thing.
07:20.20ZealotOnAStickYeah, Daruku.
07:20.27ZealotOnAStickA couple of the dolls were amusing.
07:20.30Industrialoh i saw that
07:20.49Industrialbut i cant remember, too bad to want to remember that
07:20.56Industrial:p
07:21.25ZealotOnAStickIt was like the Emo arc.
07:24.02Arrowmasterah crap, i gota get some sleep before class in the morning
07:25.22IndustrialINTO THE FIAH!!
07:26.09Industrialnice way to wake up :>
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07:30.15Industrialckknight: i hope you take down that bush picture when you are done shooting.
07:30.46ckknightlol
07:30.48ckknightwhy?
07:31.09Industrialcus its bush -.-
07:32.37ckknightdon't like the "Greatest President Ever"?
07:33.36ckknighthttp://www.wikiality.com/Greatest_President_Ever
07:33.51Industrialid like a president that would complain about companies making commercials that riding their cars is better because they plant trees
07:34.18Industrialand that ^ tells you exactly what kind of a person i am :o
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07:34.55ckknightyou know how I feel about the envorinment
07:34.59ckknightenvironment*
07:35.06ckknight<--- anti-environment
07:35.14Industrialhehe
07:35.14ckknightcows are out to get you
07:37.01Industriallol @ the youtube video on that page
07:37.27ckknightdid you see today's one?
07:38.12Industrialwith the eggs yeah lol
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07:38.33ckknightwhat better way to celebrate Jesus' death and resurrection
07:38.59Industrialeggs fightin!
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07:39.23ckknightprecisely.
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07:39.41ckknightI mean, Jesus would've wanted us to take out our anger that way.
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07:40.04Industrialbtw im waiting for pitbull to become stable (its far from 1.0 right?) with updating my layout
07:40.21ckknightno such thing as 1.0
07:40.23Industrialit updates faster then i can test atm =D
07:40.56mitch0I spent about half an hour yesterday configuring pitbull. it's getting nice now :)
07:41.12scott_what is pitbull
07:41.33scott_?
07:41.40mitch0still don't know what half of the options do though... some more extensive tooltips would be nice
07:41.49mitch0scott_: unit frames
07:42.58mitch0and an option to show "dummy" frames during configuration would be nice... setting up partytargets was a bit hard
07:43.17ckknighttoo late, mitch0
07:43.20ckknightalready done.
07:43.20nymbiayou mean like the config mode that's already there?
07:43.39mitch0eh, told already that I don't know what half the options do :)
07:44.09mitch0so that party/raid/solo setup mode is just for that then?
07:44.31ckknightyea
07:44.35mitch0cool
07:44.38ckknightit'll show all the frames you want
07:44.41ckknightthree modes
07:44.42SunTigeri tried the pitbul relationships addon last night
07:44.45ckknightsolo/party/raid
07:44.51SunTigerthat was .... to much lines on my screen.
07:45.47mitch0ckknight: once it bugged on me when dragging the party target frames. we got into combat or somesuch and thereafter I couldn't "release" the frames, and couldn't click on any control. /reloadui needed. no biggy though
07:46.00ckknightwas this recent?
07:46.05mitch0yesterday
07:46.11ckknightnot recent.
07:46.12mitch0updated at around 20:00
07:46.16ckknightupdate!
07:46.21mitch0will do
07:46.49mitch0but it's not "gamebreaking" anyway. once I'll get it sorted, I'll just lock the frames and be done with it :)
07:47.09mitch0btw, who "owns" surfacelib?
07:47.16ckknightobselete!
07:47.28ckknightor more specifically, deprecated
07:47.32ZealotOnAStickwas, uh, haste's I think.
07:47.43mitch0what's in its place then?
07:47.44ZealotOnAStickand sort of appopriated.
07:47.48mitch0sharedmedia?
07:47.49ZealotOnAStickSharedMedia
07:48.00ckknighthandles more than just statusbars
07:48.19mitch0hm. I think something requires sflib still. will have to check though
07:48.40mitch0or can I "seamlessly" replace it with sharedmedia?
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07:49.24ckknightnearly, mitch0
07:49.39ckknightyou can do :Fetch("statusbar", "name") instead of :Fetch("name")
07:50.02mitch0ok, I'll look into it
07:50.52mitch0any good petbar replacements in ace2? turned out that completely hiding the petbar can sometimes be a pain... (like when controlling the cannons in blade's edge...)
07:51.34ckknightwhat's a petbar?
07:51.39ckknightactionbar for pets?
07:51.43mitch0yes
07:51.46ckknightBartender3
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07:52.11mitch0well, I don't want to replace the default blizz bars for some obscure reason :)
07:52.24mitch0I'd prefer a "simple" petbar replacement
07:53.50mitch0ckknight: so what else have you hacked into pitbull recently?
07:53.57ilifincereal
07:53.58HealthCHeck the commit log!
07:53.58ckknightI hacked your mom
07:54.03ckknightbesides that, not sure.
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07:54.12mitch0;)
07:54.29Healthone missing word there it seems
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07:58.50mitch0oh, another question: is there a way to signal CC on a unit (apart from the debuff icon)? like, is there an option to draw some border or special highlight on a unitframe if it's under some form of CC?
07:59.49CIA-1103elkano * r31834 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
07:59.49CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
07:59.49CIA-11- reworked recipe scanning
07:59.49CIA-11- added Tradeskill.Recipe.*.Other for recipes that are neither Crafted, Drop, Quest nor Vendor
08:00.23mitch0ckknight: what is a "wacky" unit?
08:00.36HealthThat's a unit that is wacky
08:00.45ckknighta unit not checked by Blizzard naturally
08:00.49ckknighte.g. targettarget
08:01.20Industrialmitch0: I use a macro to recall/send pet and always have it on passive
08:01.20Industrial<PROTECTED>
08:01.20Industrialhm 1 hour to go til EU is up
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08:01.29nevcairielwasnt targettarget added to blizz units after they added their targettarget frame?
08:01.56nymbiatargettarget's been around for far longer
08:02.12nymbiathey only added a frame for in like.. the naxx patch, right?
08:02.30mitch0Industrial: so? (about the petstuff)
08:02.33nevcairielthe question is if UNIT_* events fire for those events
08:02.38nymbianope
08:02.43Industrialmitch0: wo i dont need the pet bar
08:03.02Industrialso*
08:03.02mitch0Industrial: have you done the cannon quest in blade's edge?
08:03.04nevcairielso blizz uses a OnUpdate to update their targettarget too i guess
08:03.10Industrialmitch0: no? :)
08:03.26ckknightnot as far as I could tell, no.
08:03.27mitch0good luck hunting for the cannon abilities once you get there :)
08:03.39Industrialoh you have to control something :P
08:04.24nevcairieloh well just from looking at TargetofTarget code, its OnUpdate'ing so whacky
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08:06.08HealthI'm a bit unused to unit frames.. been playing with a hud forever. But I think I like it.
08:06.32IndustrialHealth: put them under your character :)
08:06.42HealthIndustrial:  I have
08:07.13Industrialugh WHY addons.mozilla.org? WHY? why are you made of ass and fail?
08:07.27Health?
08:07.30nevcairielwhat?
08:07.54Industrialcan never find what you want there and everything is in multiple categories, also who acres about web2.0siteX with a toolbar :P
08:08.12Healthnymbia: Dude!
08:08.41HealthI got ugly jumpiness while not growing, was that fixed with the commit too? :)
08:08.56Industrialdirectories > tags
08:09.19mitch0nevcarial: does the default auto-self-cast work with bartender?
08:09.44Ordogmitch0: yes
08:09.52mitch0or am I using macros for that already? /ponder
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08:12.53mitch0guess I'll give bt3 a go... the pain that was 2.0 is fading :) (at that time I decided to use everything from blizz if possible)
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08:20.40nymbiawhy?
08:25.15mitch0nevcairiel: can I swap actionbars "permanently" in bt3 (as, not just while holding shift/control)? what I'd like to do is replicate the default blizz layout (2 columns on right, 1 long column on bottom, and under it a short row followed by the "other buttons"/keyring/bags. and I'd like to swap the short bottom bar with shift-1, shift-2
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08:30.39Oridanmuh!
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08:31.49CIA-1103morgalm * r31835 10MorgDKP/ (6 files):
08:31.49CIA-11MorgDKP:
08:31.49CIA-11- fixed nil error for common on horde
08:31.49CIA-11- deDE additions (not localized yet)
08:31.49CIA-11- Added ability to edit item values from item history
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08:32.51Oridanarg brb
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08:35.29nevcairieloh meh servers still down, /me goes drycoding
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08:45.09Stephmwmornin'
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08:57.18cncfanaticsmorning ppl
08:57.30Oridanmorning
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09:01.03cncfanaticswhat is new in 2.0.12 ?
09:01.15nevcairielnothing special
09:03.03Oridanhrm, there must be a way to get the item description from an itemid
09:03.40Oridanand, also any "duration" thats left on the item
09:03.42nevcairielshow a tooltip and parse it
09:04.03nevcairielGameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:8888")
09:04.04nevcairieliirc
09:04.11Oridanahh
09:04.37Oridanrighto, i'll give it a whirl, its a bit odd how GetItemInfo doesnt have it, but thats life i guess :D
09:04.54nevcairielthats life with blizz :)
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09:10.38cncfanaticsomg ...
09:10.46cncfanaticsthe new WoW locks up the window manager on linux
09:10.47cncfanaticsgg blizz
09:11.34Stephmwhooray. which wm?
09:11.53nevcairiel2.0.12 doesnt seem to work with cedega
09:11.57nevcairielif thats what you are using
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09:12.33cncfanaticsi'm using regular wine
09:13.38cncfanaticsanyone an idea ?
09:13.44cncfanaticsI can't try again cuz gnome just locks up :/
09:15.01ckknightbuy a mac :-P
09:15.25cncfanaticsgiev solution for linuxxxxx
09:15.39Stephmwcncfanatics: try wine cvs?
09:16.07cncfanaticshmmmm, actualy, my wine is updated
09:16.11cncfanaticsis not updated*
09:16.21cncfanaticsbut I crashed my root account so I can't update it eh -.-
09:16.33Loki|muhsudo? ;)
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09:16.50cncfanaticsyea
09:16.56cncfanaticsthats what I crashed :p
09:17.01Loki|muhgz ;)
09:17.11Loki|muhinit=/bin/bash :)
09:17.30ckknightinit=/bin/yourmomsh
09:18.34ckknightAccording to the most recent intelligence reports, Osama bin Laden is working on a gay pornographic movie with Michael Moore, Kim Jong Il and Saddam Hussein. All four will be featured writhing and doing unspeakable acts unto one another while shouting, "Death to America!" in five hundred languages that do not include American.
09:19.26SunTigerckknight, O.o
09:20.14ckknighthttp://www.wikiality.com/Osama_bin_Laden#Osama_bin_Laden_Trivia
09:20.29Healthckknight: code pitbull rather than watching gay porn!
09:20.37SunTigeris that some new uncyclopedia ?
09:20.42ckknightI'm actually watching One Tree Hill
09:20.44cncfanaticshmmm, I Do agre eon that one HEalth
09:20.55ckknightSunTiger: yes, but specifically in the mindset of Stephen Colbert
09:21.24cncfanaticsbleh, i'm gonna finish downloading the stuff I was dl'ing, back everything up, and reinstall
09:21.25cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
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09:24.01Loki|muhcncfanatics: just because you cannot use sudo any more? you must be kidding
09:24.20cncfanaticsLoki|muh, I needed a reinstall ages ago tbh
09:24.28cncfanaticsjust never found a good enough reason to do it
09:25.22Oridan"Channeling the spirit of Chuck Norris, Dubya survived and escaped, only to fight another day. " lawl?
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09:25.33ckknightyep, Oridan
09:25.55OridanSir Norris gets everywhere
09:25.57Loki|muhand I thouight the only need to reinstall ist the change of architectury or a harddisk crash :p
09:26.23Loki|muh-i
09:26.25cncfanaticsLoki|muh, a reinstall does good sometimes
09:26.30cncfanaticsand I want to change from linux flavor anyway
09:26.30Loki|muh-y
09:26.59Silviu-cncfanatics go windows !
09:27.00Silviu-:)
09:27.10cncfanaticsfuck windows
09:27.17Loki|muhouch, rereading sentences before pressing enter could do something for better understanding...
09:27.29Loki|muhcncfanatics: thats a good reason, too :)
09:27.33Loki|muhchanging to debian?
09:27.33[Ammo]morning
09:27.50cncfanaticsLoki|muh, got debian atm, gonna try ubuntu
09:27.57cncfanaticsI stay with the debian flavor though
09:27.57Loki|muhic
09:28.07cncfanaticslove apt-get too much :p
09:28.10Silviu-get slack :(
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09:28.21nevcairieltry gentoo and learn to love emerge!
09:28.30cncfanaticsapt-get >everything
09:28.33[Ammo]sigh the soon to be mother elephant that we had 2 excellent high bandwidth webcams on gave birth and trampled her baby
09:28.45[Ammo]it was a cool project
09:28.46[Ammo]but ended kinda sad
09:29.00[Ammo]1.5 terabyte traffic on 2 webcams :)
09:29.05nevcairielheh
09:29.19cncfanaticsLoki|muh, got any experience with ubuntu ?
09:29.25[Ammo]my collegue spent all night on it, he's knackered now
09:30.13Loki|muhcncfanatics: yeah, using it for 1.5 years now
09:30.14ckknighttrampled her baby?
09:30.15ckknight:-(
09:30.21ckknightI'd hate to trample my baby
09:30.39cncfanaticsLoki|muh, any major advantages over debian ?
09:30.39[Ammo]yeah trampled it
09:30.50[Ammo]http://images.fok.nl/upload/070404_167165_indra.jpg
09:31.19[Ammo]we've got footage of it
09:31.28[Ammo]but I doubt the zoo wants to release it
09:31.33Gngsk:X
09:31.38Gngsknot much room in there
09:31.46[Ammo]irony is they left their own webcam in the 'kids area' of the site running
09:31.56[Ammo]we killed the live streams when it went wrong
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09:33.26Loki|muhcncfanatics: there were some at that time, the usability for desktop systems was higher than with debian, more things were done automatically like support for usbdisks and digicams and so on
09:33.39Gagoriansoo elephants are pretty retarded? :(
09:33.55SunTigerkinda like people.
09:33.56[Ammo]it seems to happen more often
09:33.56Loki|muhcncfanatics: i don't know if debian made a step there, I use it only for server systems
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09:39.26cncfanaticsLoki|muh, I do think debian supports most of my stuff, even though with some pain sometimes (often)
09:39.49CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31836 10Cartographer_Cleanup/Cleanup.lua: Cartographer_Cleanup: fixed typo
09:40.16cncfanaticswhat is this supported till 2009 shit lol ?
09:40.29Loki|muhcncfanatics: I got not so much pain with ubuntu
09:40.50Loki|muhcncfanatics: the actual is supported till 2009, I guess
09:41.00Loki|muhactual release*
09:41.07sbuGagorian: well - how many ~some week old babies get killed by their mother? - the only difference is that you cant see that on a webcam...
09:45.49cncfanaticsLoki|muh, why ? -.- debian is supported till 9999 -.-
09:48.19nymbiafor corperate customers
09:48.28nymbiawho use their paid support junk
09:48.30nymbiai'm guessing
09:52.56Elkanoanyone looking W3 2007 Season 2 Finals Moon vs Sky?
09:53.42Loki|muhcncfanatics: no, debian woody is not supported any more (no security updates since June 2006)
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09:55.02ElkanoLoki, T-2 ^^
09:55.52Loki|muhElkano: for me T-2+1y :(
09:55.59Loki|muhElkano: I have to work an learn
09:56.11Elkano:(
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09:56.26Elkanolies...
09:56.58Loki|muhI have to prepar for my very last exam at university :)
09:57.02Loki|muh+e
09:57.40Elkanowhat's better preparation than getting drunk with friends?
09:58.44[A]v[P]elkano: the svn still points to r31797 instead of r31832
09:59.08Elkanohmpf
10:00.08Elkanoif you have an svn account, you can use dev. instead of svn. :/
10:01.45[A]v[P]no :(
10:01.51Gagorian~seen wobin
10:02.20purlwobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd (1d 11h 38m 39s), last said: 'I want to respec prot at about 35 to try out the aoe grinding =)'.
10:02.59ckknightI did that.
10:03.02renchapcant sync the svn, dev is again bugging
10:03.24Gagorian~seen wobin_
10:03.27purlwobin_ is currently on #wowi-lounge (11h 20m 18s) #wowace (11h 20m 18s). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 10h 49m 2s, last said: 'It doesn't involve switching between mouse and keyboard =P'.
10:03.31wobin_>.>
10:03.33wobin_<.<
10:03.47GagorianDoes paintball still work?
10:05.00wobin_No
10:05.08wobin_Due to lack of ability to target
10:06.33GagorianIt's not technically possible any longer then?
10:06.33evl_ckknight: the castbar is definetly a trick little beast :)
10:06.33wobin_aye
10:06.33wobin_Well, as far as I know =\
10:06.34ckknightyour mom was a tricky little beast last night
10:06.34evl_ckknight: but it's shaping up! Any plans for an XP bar btw?
10:06.34ckknightno plans for an XP bar
10:06.46GagorianHmm, clicking to target should work though?
10:06.57ckknightfeel free to code it...
10:07.01evl_ckknight: wtf my mom?
10:07.20Stephmwevl_: vivid imagination... comes with WoW
10:07.44[Ammo]hehe
10:07.47[A]v[P]why would you need an xp bar
10:08.00Stephmwnice place to stick it
10:08.10StephmwI have it showing in agUF and it's convenient
10:08.16[A]v[P]i usually stick at in the front
10:08.19[Ammo]FuBar_FuXPFu ftw
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10:08.31[A]v[P]xpbar none works as well
10:08.36evl_I love it how Telia's european routers have the brilliant prefix
10:08.37evl_9  2418 ms  1935 ms   784 ms  hbg-bb1-pos6-0-0.telia.net [213.248.64.30]
10:08.48Stephmwthey certainly are a pos
10:08.51evl_Piece of Shit router no. 6-0-0
10:08.57[Ammo]bbl
10:08.59[Ammo]:)
10:09.07ckknightyea, I see no reason for an XP bar on my unit frames
10:09.09ckknightI use FuXPFu
10:09.17evl_ckknight: yeah; i'll get that myself.
10:09.33Elkanokorea is fun ^^ http://rpgamers.free.fr/mbcgamelive/
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10:11.50cncfanaticsLoki|muh, everyone auto-updated from woody with apt-get
10:11.56cncfanatics(sry for late answer, was eating :p)
10:12.40Loki|muhcncfanatics: the same happens for ubuntu
10:13.05nymbiapoint is
10:13.18nymbiayou cant stick with the one and still get updates past that date
10:13.27nymbiathey're just letting you know now ;)
10:14.45cncfanaticstime to install
10:14.48cncfanaticswon't be online for a while
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10:24.19vhaarrckknight: Enabling Party configuration mode and hiding party pet frames produces an error; [2007/04/04 12:12:37-3-x9]: PitBull-r31793\PitBull.lua:1819: attempt to index global 'framesByCluster' (a nil value)
10:24.43vhaarrckknight: One party pet frame is hidden every time you click "Hidden", and when they are all gone the option ticks off.
10:24.43ckknightwanna change that to allFramesByCluster?
10:24.49vhaarrno, I'm not at home
10:24.52vhaarrI'm on my parents computer
10:24.53ckknightlame.
10:24.55ckknightokay
10:24.56vhaarrI don't want to code :P
10:25.04ckknightcoding4life
10:25.11vhaarrat my parents for easter
10:25.38Elkanowatching the top WC3 players makes me somehow sick :/
10:26.18CIA-1103ckknight * r31837 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix typo framesByCluster => allFramesByCluster
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10:26.30ckknightah, good times, vhaarr
10:26.36vhaarrindeed
10:26.48vhaarrit's like staying at a 5 star hotel
10:26.59ckknighthave everything prepared for you
10:27.01ckknightnice bed
10:27.02ckknightetc.
10:27.03ckknight:-P
10:27.07vhaarr^^
10:27.08ckknighteaster eggs
10:27.15vhaarryes, HUGE ones
10:27.26ckknightvhaarr: I released another youtube video today
10:27.32ckknighttalks about easter
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10:27.35ckknightand Australia
10:27.38vhaarrhehe
10:27.49ckknighthttp://www.youtube.com/southernjesse
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10:40.12Oridanlawl, you have too much time on your hands ckknight :P
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10:40.36ckknightit's true
10:40.42ckknightI've watched 10 episodes of One Tree Hill today
10:40.54ckknightthat's about 450 minutes
10:40.57Oridanlol
10:41.02ckknightor 7 hours, 30 minutes
10:41.33Oridanat a guess, you're at uni or college or something?
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10:41.51ckknightcollege
10:41.56ckknightand I didn't have class today
10:42.01Oridanhehe
10:42.11ckknightmy girlfriend is really into the show
10:42.19ckknightand this is sort of a creepy way to connect with her
10:42.29ckknightthe problem is, I like it enough to watch 10 episodes in a row
10:42.30sbuuhm
10:42.36Oridanwell, i envy you :P i quit college early, been working ever since :P
10:42.47ckknightI've been recommended against that
10:42.51sbuwow + coding + girlfriend, wtf? :o
10:42.58ckknighteven after getting a Cisco offer and all
10:43.03ckknightsbu: she doesn't even play WoW
10:43.08ckknightI had to explain what it was
10:43.09Oridanzomg
10:43.13ckknightlol
10:43.24ckknightbut she's pretty hot
10:43.32ckknightand I'm the sweetest guy in the world, apparently
10:43.36Oridanwell, i conned my gf into playing wow
10:43.36ckknightthat seems to be good enough
10:43.51HealthYou're on krack ckknight
10:43.51ckknightI conned my gf into falling for me
10:43.53Healthcrack too
10:43.57ckknightused a fake name and everything.
10:44.04Elkanosbu, works well :)
10:44.07Oridanwe both used to play UO until wow came out, and i said "hey we should both play this instead!"
10:44.20ckknightcreated a whole new identity, made her fall for said identity, and then removed the veil of secrecy
10:44.32ckknightfucked up situation, but it's been a pretty nice relationship, all in all
10:44.33Oridanand since she got banned from the shard, she thought it was a good idea
10:44.46ckknightshard?
10:44.49sbuElkano: well i know, at least if you gf also plays wow... but if she doesnt? dont know... :)
10:44.56Oridanshard=server
10:45.11ckknightah
10:45.16ckknighthow'd she get banned? lol
10:45.57Oridanshe dumped the admin to get with me
10:46.04Oridan... twice
10:46.12ckknight...lol?
10:46.15nevcairiellol
10:46.41Stephmwhang on... to have dumped the admin twice... she must've dumped you once, no?
10:46.51nevcairielor some other guy
10:47.07Oridansortof, was a long distance relationship, so it kinda fell apart the first time
10:47.24Oridanbut i decided to move, so we hooked up again
10:47.36Oridanand now we live together
10:47.51Oridanso, WoW LAN every night, tis grand
10:48.25Oridani can actually yell HEAL FFS and she does!
10:48.27yacoobthe one that doesn't have raid, cooks? :)
10:48.33Oridanhaha yep!
10:48.53Oridaneither that, or if we're both raiding, we dont eat ;)
10:48.57Oridanwow > nutrients
10:49.10yacoobfeeding on UV radiation from the display?
10:49.11nevcairielheh
10:49.32CIA-1103pettigrow * r31838 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Babble-2.2: frFR Update
10:49.52sbuwell, problem is if wow > sex ;o "uhm... no, dont want to, lets finish this quest first..." ;)
10:49.54Oridanoo i'm ganna test carto_cleanup :D
10:50.07OridanROFL sbu, depends on the quest ;)
10:50.12nevcairiellol
10:50.16sbuheh
10:50.20Oridanor rather, on the quest EPIX
10:50.30Healthepix > sex
10:50.45Healthsex is overrated!
10:51.12ckknightthat's untrue
10:51.12Oridanwell, i dunno really, sometimes we dont play wow, and thats fun too ;)
10:51.29ckknightsex can increase the intimacy in a relationship
10:51.40Oridanhaha, thats a line for your next video ckknight
10:51.45sbucan? :p
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10:52.18ckknightnext video is Global Warming
10:52.26ckknightsbu: yes, it can also hurt a relationship.
10:52.27Healthsweet
10:52.37CIA-1103mikk * r31839 10ChatThrottleLib/README.txt: ChatThrottleLib: README.txt update with new urls, etc.
10:52.37Oridansex can hurt a relationship?
10:52.58sbusure - if you sleep with your neighbor :/
10:53.03nevcairiellol
10:53.06Oridan*chuckle*
10:53.14Oridansounds like experiance talking ;)
10:53.19sbunope ;o
10:53.22Oridanhehehe
10:54.56sbuohnoes, pornbits is down ;)
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10:55.52Oridano.0
10:56.35Oridanbetween us, my gf and i have more porn than the whole pornbits network
10:56.36Nickenyfikenckknight: My friend is complaining about setting the health bar color in PitBull. He says the only way to get all in the same color is to turn on "color by class" and set all class colors to the same color.
10:56.46NickenyfikenAm i missing something?
10:56.50ckknighteys
10:56.55ckknightturn off class coloring
10:56.59ckknightand hostility coloring
10:57.06HealthI'm not sure how you have time to have a gf, never sleep, always code, play some wow, watch one tree hill  7 hours and go to college ckknight!
10:57.25Nickenyfikenckknight: yeah and it turns green, how do you config that green color?
10:57.27ckknightwell, actually, I'm a simple bash script.
10:57.27Oridanok, maybe not, but she just deleted 13gigs of "crappy porn"
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10:57.35ckknightNickenyfiken: mmm... dunno
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10:57.56Nickenyfikenhehe :-)
10:58.00ckknightactually I have so much time by removing "masturbation time"
10:58.05ckknightthat saves like 5 hours a day
10:58.09HealthSmart
10:58.12Nickenyfikenwould be neat with a option for it
10:58.21ckknightI mean, the gf thing takes care of it
10:58.22Oridanlol
10:58.25ckknightmore efficient
10:58.45Oridanyeah, but she now has less time!
10:58.51HjalteHow come there's no updates on wowace.com/files?
10:59.07ckknightOridan: meh.
10:59.08Elkanock broke it
10:59.13ckknightNO U
10:59.17ElkanoNO U
10:59.38Oridan./rr blame
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10:59.53Oridan--:: Oridan wins blame!! ::--
10:59.55Oridangah
11:00.05Oridanwhy do i always win blame :/
11:00.13ckknightit's like hot potato
11:00.14ElkanoOridan broke it!
11:00.17ckknightyou're just too slow
11:00.21ckknight~blame Oridan
11:00.33purlACTION blames Oridan (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
11:00.38Oridanlol
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11:00.43Fisker-fuck this shit
11:00.58Elkano~blame Fisker-
11:01.01purlACTION blames Fisker- (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
11:01.05abbat_wahah ;)
11:01.07Fisker-I WAS B&
11:01.11abbat_wsteve balmer - style? :)
11:01.15Fisker-i can't believe this shit
11:01.17Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1175684205681.jpg
11:01.31abbat_wi mean developersdevelopersdevelopers
11:01.37Fisker-yeah
11:01.51Fisker-i'm using my host as proxy cause i got B& on 4chan
11:02.39Oridanyou got bampersand o.0
11:02.47[Ammo]you're a troll fisker, ofcourse you got banned
11:02.53Oridanlol
11:03.27Fisker-B& = Ban'd :P
11:03.39Fisker-it's slang!
11:04.37Oridanyer, just bampersand sounds like fun
11:04.42abbat_wtroll?
11:04.44abbat_womg
11:05.22ckknight~troll
11:05.30purlextra, extra, read all about it, troll is a race on some muds; a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or ...
11:06.08ckknightI wonder....
11:06.12ckknight~tuplad
11:06.14purlhttp://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg
11:06.22ckknightyea
11:06.35abbat_w=)
11:08.20Fisker-~ballmer
11:08.21purlrumour has it, ballmer is Darth Maul to Gates' Palpatine, or fat
11:08.30Fisker-~steveballmer ckknight
11:08.32purlACTION throws a AL at ckknight screaming, COMPETITIONCOMPETITIONCOMPETITON!!
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11:09.41abbat_wbot should provide link to video where Steve Ballmer run and say 'developers developers developers developers' ;)
11:13.33Fisker-~steveballmer abbat_w
11:13.34purlACTION bounces on fisker- screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!"
11:13.38Fisker-WTF
11:13.47abbat_w=)
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11:23.46Elkano3:0 \o/
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11:24.09sbu?
11:24.20ElkanoW3 2007 finals
11:24.25Oridananyone have any examples of parsing GameTooltips?
11:24.47nymbiastatstain does
11:24.48ElkanoOridan, GratuityLib? ItemBonusLib?
11:24.58Oridantx
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11:31.08Fisker-i'm gonna kill you Elkano
11:31.35Elkano"You know as well as I do that I cannot be destroyed!"
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11:37.08cncfanaticsnew system installed faster then expected :)
11:37.56CIA-1103wobin * r31840 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar: Fix for the damn Orientation issue
11:38.31Silviu-[13:16:36] * Quits: F'cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@122.31-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) ("Leaving.")
11:38.38Silviu-1h 30
11:38.39Silviu-:)
11:38.58Silviu-Yep quick :)
11:39.28[dRaCo]someone mentioned a mana reg timer for pitbull, was that just an idea or something in development?
11:41.12cncfanaticsnow on to compiling wine
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11:44.23Oridannymbia> i changed the conjured item code of PT3Bar a bit if you're interested - doesnt look in a predifined set, just checks the tooltip for a "Conjured Item" line -- http://ace.pastey.net/10282
11:45.03CIA-1103helium * r31841 10ChatLog/Locale-zhTW.lua: ChatLog: Updated zhTW locale
11:45.25Oridannymbia> just need to add Gratuity to the toc too
11:49.55CIA-1103joshborke * r31842 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
11:49.55CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
11:49.55CIA-11- remove the bar faders if the parent bar doesn't exist in UpdateLayout
11:50.10CIA-1103roartindon * r31843 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: CastBar - added stopTime to places that set fadeOut = 1 (INTERRUPTED and FAILED specifically)
11:50.28HjalteHow come CIA looks so dull today?
11:51.40Ominouswha....
11:54.05Oridannow then, time to do some paid work i guess
11:55.33HealthJoshBorke: wtb barfader option to chose which bars to fade! :p I guess that's what the last commit will lead to.
11:55.43JoshBorkeHealth: what do you mean?
11:55.51JoshBorkeoh, between health bar and mana bar too?
11:56.02HealthYeah, and target's target and so on
11:56.13JoshBorkeyou should already be able to do target's target etc
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11:56.36HealthAll bars have bar fading.. but I only want it on the target's health...
11:56.41HealthMaybe it can be done with a layout?
11:56.50_neuron_sigh, 3mb patch, this is gonna take a while isn't it, after all I'm only on 10mbit
11:57.11[Ammo]Health: you can ignore units
11:57.29[Ammo]Health: from the barfader menu option you can turn of the fading per unit type
11:57.33HealthAh, I see... thought that was specific target names
11:57.34JoshBorkei dunno how'd i'd make fading only work on health or only work on mana though
11:57.46JoshBorkeseems like those would be kinda cumbersome to make the options for
11:58.04HealthIf the ignore option works that's fine :)
11:58.05HjalteKemayo, ping
11:58.17[Ammo]JoshBorke: can work similar to the ignore option
11:58.30[Ammo]checks in your hooks for the specific groups and you're done
11:58.34JoshBorke[Ammo]: hm, ignore power, ignore helath?
11:58.59[Ammo]yeah something like that
11:59.07[Ammo]ignore mana, ignore health
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11:59.38JoshBorkemmmk
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12:02.24JoshBorkeignore is a weird word
12:02.35[Ammo]it should be disable
12:02.39HealthYes!
12:02.48JoshBorkeyea, disable mana/disable health, very good ammo
12:03.09[Ammo]make sure it's clear that you disable it for that unit group
12:03.10[Ammo]but shrug
12:03.21[Ammo]just call it disable mana, disable health
12:03.33CIA-1103roartindon * r31844 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: CastBar - Changed the initial hide of the castbar using alpha=0 to using SetMinMaxValues/SetValues, as PitBull_RangeCheck overrides alpha and makes it show....
12:05.25HealthAny other place than source to check watchdog tags?
12:05.34CIA-1103whitetooth * r31845 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: (log message trimmed)
12:05.34CIA-11StatLogicLib:
12:05.34CIA-11- Get stat mods from talants and buffs
12:05.34CIA-11- GetDodgePerAgi()
12:05.34CIA-11- GetBlockValuePerStr(class)
12:05.35CIA-11- GetAPPerAgi(class)
12:05.37CIA-11- GetRAPPerAgi(class)
12:05.40[Ammo]use the source :p
12:06.07_neuron_does roartindon have a different nick on irc today or is he not here?
12:06.08HjalteWhich frame is WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame?
12:06.21JoshBorkeHjalte: the one that is always up
12:06.44Gngskpvp objectives frame?
12:06.44_neuron_cuz my enemy castbar just got stuck on 100% without disapearing :p
12:07.09JoshBorke_neuron_: he's specifically hiding from you
12:07.13[Ammo]yeah
12:07.15_neuron_awww :p
12:07.15HjalteJoshBorke, meh, mr obvious, how do i move it then? :P
12:07.16[Ammo]good thing too
12:07.48nevcairielWorldStateAlwaysUpFrame:SetPoint("YOURASS")
12:07.50JoshBorkehttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/20106448/FrameXML/WorldStateFrame.xml
12:08.26JoshBorkeya move it using wicked cool lua or visor/moveanything
12:09.19Fisker-VERY MATURE nevcairiel
12:09.21HjalteI think I'll try with the last option. I'm not very good at wicked cool lua.
12:09.58[Ammo]./script WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame:SetPoint( "CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER" )
12:10.00[Ammo]:p
12:10.34CIA-1103joshborke * r31846 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
12:10.34CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
12:10.34CIA-11- can now disable smoothing/fading health/mana for each group
12:10.34CIA-11- blame Ammo this time
12:11.04[Ammo]hahaha
12:11.11Ominousjoshborke: neva!
12:11.17Fisker-[Ammo] is the best thing to ever hit pitbull
12:11.41[dRaCo]someone code a 5 sec-rule timer for pitbull ;)
12:11.54JoshBorkewhy would you hit a dog [ammo].  i'm gonna report you to PETA
12:12.47JoshBorke[dRaCo]: why?
12:12.55Fisker-atleast he's better at hitting a dog than you are coding ui
12:12.56Fisker-hoho
12:12.56[Ammo]what would a 5-sec rule timer have to do with unitframes
12:13.18JoshBorkeFisker-: why you think i always blame other people? :_D
12:13.20[dRaCo]has not that much to do with unitframes
12:13.35[dRaCo]but having the timer integrated in the mana bar is just so cool
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12:14.01JoshBorkenot as cool as smooth fading
12:14.21[dRaCo]but more useful ;)
12:14.25[Ammo]haha
12:14.28[Ammo]well
12:14.32[Ammo]I don't even use PitBull atm
12:14.51[Ammo]when I'm actually raiding etc that is
12:14.58[Ammo]I have it running on my dev laptop
12:15.07JoshBorkei don't actually use it, aguf is still my main frame
12:15.33[Ammo]there's just a few things missing from pitbull to replace aguf
12:15.36[Ammo]but working on that
12:15.52JoshBorkewhat're those things ammo?
12:17.56[dRaCo]I'm not him, but a rep bar would be cool
12:18.26Fisker-you go girl!
12:18.52[dRaCo]If only I knew lua ^^
12:19.02Ominous[Ammo] i was tkinking of adding buff positioning to main aura module and there for making it more intellegent oubout where it positions them
12:19.09JoshBorkeyou don't need to know lua, look at what i wrote
12:19.13sbumhh - hiding party in raid would be nice :/
12:19.20Ominoussbu: thats there
12:19.31sbubut not for party targets / pets :/
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12:19.57sbuparty frames are hidden - but some other things are still there (but not clickable?)
12:20.49[Ammo]Ominous: positioning of the frames should be handled by the layout
12:20.59[Ammo]but allowing the layout to set a 'fill from left to right, right to left' would help
12:21.06Ominousah, ill do that
12:21.16CIA-1103mikk * r31847 10CraftList/ (CraftList.lua localization.lua):
12:21.17CIA-11CraftList: Ninja commit by Mikk.
12:21.17CIA-11- Crafts can now be queried via guildchat as well as whispers (find out who in the guild can make something!)
12:21.17CIA-11- This functionality can be disabled
12:21.17CIA-11- Queries via public channels have a separate max return value, default 5. Avoids spamming someone senseless if they make too broad queries.
12:21.20CIA-11Apologies if this upsets. Feel free to back out. Just seemed obvious to me :-)
12:21.42Fisker-WTF Mikk
12:21.49JoshBorkeWTF Mikk!
12:21.52CodayusWTF
12:21.54JoshBorke~lart Mikk
12:21.54purlgives Mikk an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending Mikk to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple
12:22.01Mikk:<
12:22.04[Ammo]haha
12:22.11[Ammo]good commit mikkk :)
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12:24.17CIA-1103whitetooth * r31848 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
12:24.17CIA-11StatLogicLib:
12:24.17CIA-11- Fixed Druid stance detection
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12:29.09nevcairielyay i did it
12:29.17nevcairielfinally the auras on pitbull work good
12:29.18JoshBorkeWTF nevcairiel
12:29.43Fisker-lets kill nevcairiel before he destroys too much
12:30.11[Ammo]oh noes nevc
12:30.12JoshBorke~whalebomb nevcairiel
12:30.32purlACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at nevcairiel and hides.
12:30.32[Ammo]not the auras!
12:30.32nevcairielhehe
12:30.32CIA-1103whitetooth * r31849 10RatingBuster/ (6 files): (log message trimmed)
12:30.33CIA-11RatingBuster: 1.0.0
12:30.33CIA-11- Support for talents and buffs that modify your stats
12:30.33CIA-11- Supports the following stat conversions
12:30.33CIA-11- Str -> AP, Block, Healing
12:30.33CIA-11- Agi -> Crit, Dodge, AP, RAP, Armor
12:30.33CIA-11- Sta -> Health, SpellDmg
12:30.34[Ammo]everyone raise your hands in the air and run around screaming in wild panic
12:30.39nevcairielneed to go and buy cheap potions again
12:30.41[Ammo]|o|
12:30.44nevcairielfor testing
12:31.32[Ammo]they're coming to place a value on my house in an hour
12:31.54Oridaneek, that reminds me, i have to remortgage soon :s
12:32.13renchapSta -> SpellDmg ? oO
12:32.15[Ammo]so we can possibly buy it from the renting company
12:32.42[Ammo]warlocks renchap, warlocks
12:32.43[dRaCo]wtf, stamina increases spell dmg?
12:32.52[dRaCo]really?
12:32.53[Ammo]demo talent afaik
12:33.05renchaphmm, i am a warlock ^^
12:33.06Mikkstamina increases pet stamina which in turn feeds back into your spelldmg
12:33.06[Ammo]but I ain't no demonology man :)
12:33.12[Ammo]yeah that
12:33.19Mikkno pet = no boost
12:33.27renchapi dont like demonology
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12:33.55MikkWHOA. Damn nice conversions in RatingBuster
12:33.58Mikki need to get that now
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12:34.59MikkNow, if it could also feed Armor and dodge into generic damage mitigation
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12:35.12MikkBased on my current values ofc
12:35.13cncfanaticsyo ppl, anyone familiar with samba ?
12:35.19cncfanaticsgetting some weird error I never got before -.-
12:35.21Stephmwonly as far as cursing it
12:36.02cncfanaticslol
12:36.12JoshBorkeonly as far as seeing that the permissions aren't as flexible as in windows (yet)
12:36.32MikkSure they are. Only depends on the underlying filesystem.
12:36.37MikkSamba != extfs
12:36.56chutwigsamba works fine with POSIX ACLs if you turn them on
12:37.00JoshBorketrue, but Samba 3 will have the options
12:37.10JoshBorkechutwig: sorry, not for what we needed it for
12:37.23cncfanaticswell, i'm getting this error when using smbfs to mount a windows share
12:37.29chutwigyou must have had some truly exceptional needs
12:37.41MikkBut, anyway, i'll never again use a samba server as a primary means of file service for windows clients
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12:37.54cncfanatics22171: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnomem (Insufficient server memory to perform the requested function.)
12:37.56Mikkit works well enough with a single client accessing a few files here and there
12:37.59JoshBorkechutwig: yes, actually using the advanced permissions that windows file shares let you use (ones i never knew existed)
12:38.13Mikkmultiple clients using applications that programmatically access dozens of files = shit breaks horribly
12:38.30JoshBorkecncfanatics: i tihnk you should kick teh server
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12:38.43cncfanaticsJoshBorke, I'm the server, and got 1gig of mem
12:38.54chutwigrestart samba?
12:39.01cncfanaticsdid a few times already
12:39.03cncfanaticsdidnt help
12:39.22Mikkhmm.. what's the files.wowace.com update speed these days?
12:39.29nevcairielgenerall 20 minutes
12:39.33Mikkah ok
12:39.34nevcairielif it isnt broken agian
12:39.45nevcairielmeh my typos today
12:40.11Mikkbeen 18 minutes now... *crosses fingers*
12:40.25nevcairielit should be running right now
12:40.26cncfanaticsu been rly unlucky then Mikk
12:40.28JoshBorkejust update from svn?
12:40.31nevcairielsince its :40
12:41.53nevcairielshould be done running
12:42.11Mikkah, it updates on the :00/:20/:40
12:42.18nevcairielits a */20
12:42.19nevcairiel:)
12:42.25Mikkwell duh ;)
12:42.55Mikknope. seems borky then.
12:43.02JoshBorkesomeone rang?
12:43.19renchapdev seems to be broken
12:43.25nevcairielhm
12:43.30nevcairielnah
12:43.31Mikkyeah, not seeing the update on svn.wowace
12:43.33renchaplast rev on svn;wowace.com is 37797
12:43.40renchap*31797
12:43.42nevcairielsome mirror is behind again
12:43.49nevcairielor all mirros .. who knows
12:43.50renchapnop nevcairiel
12:43.52renchapthats my mirror
12:43.55JoshBorkenevcairiel: there are no mirrors
12:44.01renchapand thats dev.wowace.com fault
12:44.07nevcairielthere is no spoon either
12:44.15JoshBorkerenchap: just svn sync yourself
12:44.22JoshBorkei've got a little script i use to sync mine
12:44.24nevcairielthen dev. isnt sending the syncs out
12:44.47nevcairielRevision 31849: /trunk
12:44.50nevcairielthats what dev says
12:44.51nevcairielmm
12:45.09nevcairielAt revision 31797. thats what the update script said
12:45.25renchapFailed to get lock on destination repos, currently held by 'wowace.com:c3a76d01-3a2d-0410-a312-9fe197b1c2a1'
12:45.28renchapsvnsync: Couldn't get lock on destination repos after 10 attempts
12:45.31renchap:)
12:45.50Mikkgoddamn that c3a7... never up to any good
12:46.08Mikkhogging all dem files for himself
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12:48.09JoshBorkemikk:  i have an updated files if you'd like
12:48.16JoshBorkegenerating it now
12:48.18art3mishrm
12:48.32art3misyou cant resize the auras in pitbull can you
12:48.34JoshBorkeart3mis: turn off your auto-away notification :-P
12:48.42nevcairielyou cannot yet
12:48.45Ominousart3min: no
12:48.46art3miswithout scaling the entire frame down and using the size settings to make it big again?
12:48.49nevcairielbut you can once i tested my commit
12:48.50renchappastamancer: ping ?
12:48.51nevcairieland commited it
12:48.52nevcairiel:)
12:48.57art3misyay!
12:49.22art3mishehe put fort on a group and though WTF!?!? why is that icon bigger than my ept unitframe
12:49.24art3mispet
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12:49.36nevcairiellol
12:49.43nevcairielits fixed size right now yea
12:49.53art3misheh
12:50.10art3misi would love to see a module for unit buttons
12:50.17art3misthat would make me so happy
12:51.03art3misbasically a bar thats perisistant for each frame created(tick disableable of course) that replicates
12:51.23art3misso i modify the contents of say an empty 10 slot bar and all aprty members get whatever i drag into it
12:51.25Silviu-~seen Kaelten
12:52.24purlkaelten <n=kaelten@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 12m 56s ago, saying: '$ is a variable in name'.
12:52.24MikkJoshBorke: mostly wanting my modified CraftList to go out so i can point guildies at it
12:52.24JoshBorkelol
12:52.24CIA-1103roartindon * r31850 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua:
12:52.25CIA-11PitBull: CastBar - When a target or focus is changed, their castbar was left in
12:52.25CIA-11whatever state prior to the change, causing castbars not to show, or old
12:52.25CIA-11castbars showing for units that aren't casting. UpdateFrame now checks for
12:52.25CIA-11"target" or "focus" to prevent this.
12:52.37JoshBorkeMikk: http://fs.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/AceFiles/
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12:52.49JoshBorkeciao
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13:08.11CIA-1103helium * r31851 10ColaLight/Core.lua:
13:08.11CIA-11ColaLight:
13:08.11CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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13:15.34Ominousnevcairiel: what are you actually changing in the aura module
13:16.21nevcairieli added options that you can configure how many auras per row
13:16.23nevcairieland how many rows
13:16.34CIA-1103roartindon * r31852 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: CastBar - typo in the original UpdateAllCastBars() used fadeout instead of fadeOut
13:16.36nevcairielits basicly done now
13:16.45Ominousk, ill wait before commiting mine then
13:16.53nevcairielwhat did you change?
13:16.58Ominousfill from left/right
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13:17.23nevcairielmight conflict tho .. i moved alot of stuff around because it was redundant
13:17.27Ominousyea
13:17.30Ominousill wait
13:17.38Ominousthe options will last at lease :D
13:17.41Ominousleast*
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13:18.34Industrialim waiting with my layout too
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13:18.44nevcairieloh well guess it needs some more testing with some debuffs
13:18.48nevcairielbut it seems to be working fine
13:19.00Industrialpitbull is going faster then i can update my layout :d
13:19.07Ominoushow is the highlighting working atm?
13:19.17Industrialhavent looked at it
13:19.26Ominousk
13:19.32Industrialbesides i dont seem to have a place for all the pitbull modules atm (like castingbar)
13:20.03AKXAre there plans for an Ace2 based RP mod (think FlagRSP)?
13:20.07AKXOr is there one already?
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13:34.57nevcairielmm something is screwy right now
13:34.59Ominousnevcairiel: can you ping me when you commit the update please
13:35.34nevcairielsure
13:37.09cncfanaticsgah, why don't I have fucking sound with alsa
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13:37.42nevcairieloh well here goes
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13:38.22cncfanaticssry for asking more stupid questions but, who is familiar with alsa ? -.-
13:38.28CIA-1103wobin * r31853 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar: Another fix for the Orientation issue
13:38.59sbuwtb more raidtrackers :/
13:40.31CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31854 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: (log message trimmed)
13:40.31CIA-11PitBull: Aura:
13:40.31CIA-11- added options to change the number of Auras per Row
13:40.31CIA-11- and options for max number of Rows.
13:40.31CIA-11- and options to configure if you prefer debuffs or buffs to be always shown if you run out of space.
13:40.31CIA-11- i tested it for like half an hour drinking various potions and trying to get various debuffs, if it breaks do tell
13:40.34CIA-11- if someone hates it, hurt me :P
13:40.48nevcairielit left my ping line out :(
13:40.51nevcairielOminous: ping
13:41.02Ominouswee thanks
13:41.43sbuahhh hurting incoming *update*
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13:43.08nevcairielnow it needs options to place buffs/debuffs seperately
13:43.13chutwiganyone know offhand what category nightfall falls into in sct events?
13:43.22nevcairielso i can have buffs on the bottom and debuffs right
13:43.44sbunevcairiel: scaling not in yep? :)
13:44.17nevcairielbuff icons are scaling if you increse/decrease their number per row
13:44.29nevcairielmore per row, smaller icons
13:44.34nevcairiellike agUF
13:45.21Ominousnevcairiel: that is layout
13:45.32nevcairieli know
13:45.38nevcairielbut that options is still needed :P
13:46.53nevcairielanyway i am gone for an hour or so, laters
13:49.26cncfanaticsdoktoreas, ping
13:49.46doktoreascncfanatics, pong
13:49.47doktoreashi
13:50.20[Ammo]nice one nevc
13:50.34cncfanaticsdoktoreas, mind helping me with some linux issue ? :p
13:51.44doktoreasif i can sure!
13:51.53moonsorrowwill we ever get aura options to put them below the frame? :D
13:51.53deltronone of the lead developers of the max payne game was in future crew
13:51.57deltroni did not know that
13:52.10cncfanaticsdoktoreas, check ur IMs :p
13:57.49art3mishttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2231999&Sku=P450-8630 <-- rad case
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13:58.41deltronwhoa
13:58.46deltronnot what I expected
14:02.09sbunevcairiel *stab*
14:02.12art3misits naet huh?
14:02.15art3misneat
14:02.17sbusomething is wrong :o
14:03.31JoshBorkeooo, what's neat?
14:03.32kenlyricart3mis: looks like an iron lung.
14:03.32Tornhoofor some iss module
14:04.05kenlyriclol, it's a Civ victory condition!
14:04.26sbunevcairiel: http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pitbull5ou6.jpg
14:05.27deltronmy buffs are a little strange also
14:07.40nevcairielsbu: what did you do :o
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14:08.11sbui just buffed fortitude
14:08.16Stephmwnevcairiel: he was chatting up a BE... no wonder he's got problems
14:08.18sbuit happens also w/o target
14:08.41nevcairielsplit or not?
14:10.30sbusplit, buff 15/2, debuff 10/2
14:10.42sbuon player, target, party
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14:11.30CIA-1103sayclub * r31856 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/ (GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua GridStatusMissingBuffs.toc): GridStatusMissingBuffs: Added localization koKR
14:11.44nevcairielmm seems to be working fine for me
14:11.50abbat_wGridStatusMissingBuffs!!!
14:11.54abbat_womg
14:13.07Silviu-Wtb a synched svn :(
14:14.53nevcairielsbu i cannot reproduce any errors
14:15.03sbumeh :o
14:15.18moonsorrownevcairiel: why is the buff icon text for the first buff in a different place than the second buff? (or vice versa, don't know which should be intended) :P
14:15.27sbuwell, perhaps i have to rstart wow - i just reloaded ui
14:15.32renchapSilviu-: wtb a dev.wowace admin
14:15.38JoshBorkemoonsorrow: you try out the new barfader?
14:15.58renchappastamancer: ping
14:16.06moonsorrowJoshBorke: yes, it's exactly like my version yesterday :)
14:16.06nevcairielmoonsorrow: no idea, i can only buff one buff with a stack text :D
14:16.12moonsorrowhaha :D
14:16.18moonsorrowyou want a screenshot?
14:16.41nevcairieloh i found some weirdness
14:16.46nevcairieland i blame the highlighting
14:17.07art3misive decided that if i had a time machine i'd go back to the 80s and bring a long all the shit movies that ice cube made and show them to him
14:17.50art3misyou think you're a badass nigga!?!?1 WTF IS THIS?!?! *plays are we there yet*
14:17.53JoshBorkemoonsorrow: lol.  there you go :-D
14:18.23moonsorrowJoshBorke: but it seems it's not very smooth, hard to tell why
14:18.23JoshBorkei've noticed that too
14:18.23Silviu-renchap i know :)
14:18.23moonsorrowthere is some flickering at the beginning of the animatino
14:18.36Silviu-renchap btw u should ask next time for one ...
14:19.26renchapi dont need this :)
14:19.43nevcairielOminous: something is wrong with your highlight border
14:19.57Ominousi know, i dont have a clue what
14:21.26nevcairielmoonsorrow: i tried showing a dummy text on all buff icons, and all seem to be in the same position
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14:24.07moonsorrownevcairiel: it seems it's related to a reload. right after rl the text is just right in the icon, but after re-targeting myself it'
14:24.11moonsorrows in the lower right
14:24.50nevcairieloh i see
14:25.02nevcairielclearing my target and retargeting makes that happen for me too
14:25.14nevcairielthats weird
14:27.24nevcairieli think i got that
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14:28.13syerenckk?
14:28.48CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31857 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: Aura: hopefully fix applications text alignment
14:29.10nevcairielbah
14:29.12nevcairielnot working
14:29.56nevcairielwhat the hell..
14:30.31nevcairieli bet its something with the frame recycling
14:30.41JoshBorkealways blame the recycling...
14:31.22CIA-1103rabbit * r31858 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua LoadOnDemand.lua Plugins/Version.lua): (log message trimmed)
14:31.22CIA-11BigWigs:
14:31.22CIA-11<PROTECTED>
14:31.22CIA-11Of course, as a side effect of this change, the console commands /bigwigs and
14:31.22CIA-11/bw no longer use abbreviated zone names like ZG or AQ20, but require the full
14:31.25CIA-11zone names. This does not effect any GUI settings, like the dewdrop menu or
14:31.27CIA-11waterfall dialog.
14:32.41Amadeovhaarr's going all out
14:34.47nevcairielits really weird
14:34.55nevcairielthe font is different for every stupid aura button
14:35.34Ominousnevcairiel: something is wrong but im not sure what it is or what is causing it
14:35.51nevcairielsomething is wrong with everything in the aura module
14:35.53nevcairielsomehow.
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14:36.20vhaarrAmadeo: indeed, trying to make it easier to create 3rd party boss modules.
14:36.53JoshBorkenevcairiel: i blame you
14:38.09Stephmwdid anything ever come of that lue IDE... I'm thinking for tracing function traces, etc
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14:39.29nevcairielJoshBorke: nah, the text issue existed even before i touched it.
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14:42.39[Ammo]nevcairiel: try using a more specific setpoint
14:42.42[Ammo]and specifying a fontsize
14:42.44[Ammo]etc
14:42.45KirkburnThat last thing on the PitBull wishlist (the dynamic mob name/HP gap) ... is that completed?
14:43.03KirkburnI know it's in the completed section, but it looks like it was added on?
14:49.53CIA-1103roartindon * r31859 10PitBull/Combat/Combat.lua: PitBull: Combat - added the ability to enable/disable combat icon on a group basis
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14:52.13[Ammo]need to add raidgroupings and partygroupings to pitbull
14:52.31[Ammo]or just groupings in particular
14:52.39[Ammo]so you can stick pets to their owners
14:52.45[Ammo]partymembers together in a party
14:52.51[Ammo]and arbitrary raidgroups
14:53.07kenlyrici'd rather pets stick to other pets :)
14:53.20Amadeohttp://www.maj-ace.com/koltas/GMwench.jpg
14:53.21Amadeorofl
14:55.08moonsorrowJoshBorke: after looking again at barfade, it isn't exactly what I had yesterday, so I stick to my own implementation
14:55.33JoshBorkemoonsorrow: what's different?
14:55.36JoshBorkepastey your code
14:56.37moonsorrowhttp://ace.pastey.net/10303
14:58.02JoshBorkemeh, to each his own
14:58.11JoshBorkedid you check out combining fading and smoothing?
14:58.19moonsorrowyes
14:58.43moonsorrowthe good thing about mine is that you always see the correct value with an animation
14:58.57moonsorrowwhen the bar fills up with smooth + fade, you don't see it
14:59.40JoshBorkemeh, i think i do, but like i said, to each his own :-)  your's works for you :-)  and you're perfectly capable of maintaining your own version :-)
15:00.09[Ammo]well you could make moonsorrows 0.7 alpha a variable and fix it like that :)
15:00.23JoshBorkesmoothing already uses the 0.7 alpha
15:00.56[Ammo]the original version immediately showed the chunk with alpha
15:01.00vhaarrmoonsorrow: I want XRS 3.0! CandyBars and shit. I have some ideas.
15:01.03[Ammo]haven't tried the current one
15:01.23moonsorrowJoshBorke: but not smoothing and fading
15:01.36vhaarrmoonsorrow: And by god, the current code is really horrible. I've rampaged through it and made some much-needed optimizations at home, but I don't want to commit it since it's too extensive.
15:01.46vhaarrmoonsorrow: I'd rather a 3.0 was branched.
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15:02.08moonsorrowvhaarr: I really want to do that, too, but I haven't so much time currently. Already began to write xstatus
15:02.16vhaarrmoonsorrow: hm
15:02.25vhaarrmoonsorrow: Alright.
15:02.30moonsorrowI know it is horrible, but I don't care :)
15:02.33[Ammo]haha
15:02.34vhaarr:P
15:02.37vhaarrwell dinner time
15:02.51moonsorrowInitially, it was just for me to get in touch with the new ace2
15:04.54moonsorrowvhaarr: but I'm really interested to hear your ideas
15:04.59Firedancerhrm. svn seems to keep going out of sync on tuesdays. haven't been able to get updated stuff via files since yesterday either. so much pitbull goodness :(
15:05.39JoshBorkehttp://fs.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/AceFiles/
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15:06.16[Ammo]JoshBorke: still think the barfader should be included in the core distro, it's too nifty not to be in there
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15:07.10JoshBorke[Ammo]: i'mma wait another day and if no bugs are found i'll move it in
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15:07.43[Ammo]and moonsorrows changes make a bit of sense, and if you make the 'initial alpha' a variable then both can be happy
15:07.53[Ammo]unless I'm reading the code wrong
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15:08.05JoshBorkehe doesn't fade during the smooth + fade
15:08.30renchapwhen you select a target that has no mana there is a fading effect
15:08.55moonsorrowthat's right, but do you really see the fading? I don't. Test my version, maybe you like it anyway
15:09.07renchapi see it, and i dislike it :)
15:09.17[Ammo]smooth + fade should fade
15:09.24[Ammo]but a starting alpha of 0.7 is a good idea
15:09.30[Ammo]since you see the chunks immediately
15:09.36[Ammo]which is my main concern actually
15:09.40[Ammo]seeing hte chunks immediately
15:10.09moonsorrowbut one bars moves anyway to reach the end value, so the fading won't be that visible
15:10.32[Ammo]it should still fade, since that's what the option says :)
15:10.44HealthYeah, I want to see them! Then a pretty fade.
15:10.48moonsorrowI know what the option says :P
15:11.00[Ammo]but a variable chunk starting alpha is nice
15:11.20renchapby default the mana bar is full
15:11.27renchapcan be nice if it is empty
15:11.37FiredancerJoshBorke: thanks :)
15:11.48renchappastamancer: ping ?
15:12.18Silviu-Idle: 16hrs 15mins 47secs  signon: 03 Apr 2007 06:41:03am
15:12.20Silviu-:/
15:12.32Silviu-pastamancer
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15:19.46nevcairielhmm
15:19.48nevcairielfor some reason
15:19.53nevcairieltext:SetFontObject(GameFontHighlightSmall)
15:19.57nevcairieldoesnt apply the font all the time
15:20.42[Ammo]do: local font = GameFontHighlightSmall:GetFont()   text:SetFont( font, 12 )
15:20.44[Ammo]I think
15:21.21[Ammo]yeah that should do the trick
15:21.56Sarozffs ratingbuster is broken now
15:23.06nevcairielthat seems to work, thanks
15:23.07CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31860 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: Aura: fix application text for real
15:23.17nevcairielaww
15:23.45[Ammo]adjust pixel size of text ofcourse
15:23.47[Ammo]the 12 etc
15:24.07CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31861 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: Aura: fix some debug stuff out of the file :)
15:24.11nevcairiel11 it is yea
15:24.49CIA-1103roartindon * r31862 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: CastBar - the background color is now configurable, including alpha, for people that really want to hide/change it.
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15:31.21Oridanfiles.wowace.com a bit bahind with the sync again ?
15:31.26Oridanbehind*
15:31.29[Ammo]the svn mirrors are out of sync
15:31.35[Ammo]something has the svn repo locked
15:32.13Oridanah, tried slapping the monitor? ^^
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15:34.08Health^^^^^^
15:34.56vhaarrmoonsorrow: Well, I had one idea that i want in the next XRS version; the ability to specify zoom bars. Simply put; if you click on of the bars, it will be zoomed to 150% size and put on the top of the list. Clicking it again de-zooms it.
15:35.20[Ammo]anyone know what cooldowns monitor is the one with yellow cooldowns text above it?
15:35.23[Ammo]uses candybar
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15:35.52vhaarrmoonsorrow: and, obviously, it should use candybars.
15:37.43moonsorrowvhaarr: I like the idea with the zoom, but I don't know if candybars fits for xrs, because I don't need a time, but a text left and right
15:37.58vhaarrmoonsorrow: CandyBars don't have to have a timer.
15:38.21moonsorrowyeah, but how do I put a text left on it?
15:38.29pastamancerrenchap: ping
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15:38.50vhaarrpastamancer: it seems the files repo is not updating
15:38.51pastamancerrenchap: oh wait, nevermind
15:38.59[Ammo]moonsorrow: with a timerfunc :)
15:38.59pastamanceryeah, svnsync locked itself out again
15:39.03vhaarrah
15:39.09pastamancerI need to remember how I fixed it last time
15:39.20[Ammo]that returns a specific value depending on whatever you're following
15:39.42vhaarrmoonsorrow: This should be detailed in the API docs.
15:39.55vhaarrif it's not, either whip ammo or write it in yourself
15:40.14renchappastamancer: killing the svnsync process?
15:40.26vhaarrtbh, I'm not sure which one of those ammo would prefer
15:40.32PProvostckknight, ping
15:40.57pastamancerrenchap: it's actually a "svn pdel --revpropr -r 0 svn:sync-lock" because svnsync is wierd
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15:41.37moonsorrow[Ammo]: but on the left is the text, and on the right is my value
15:41.58pastamancerresyncing
15:42.24[Ammo]hmm
15:42.33[Ammo]moonsorrow: I could add extra options to candybar to change all that stuff around
15:42.38[Ammo]and make the counterbar mode
15:42.58[Ammo]and allow setting of the width etc manualy
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15:43.14moonsorrowadding tooltips is possible with candybars atm.?
15:43.54[Ammo]not yet
15:43.59[Ammo]but I can add that as well
15:44.38vhaarrwhy not?
15:44.55vhaarryou can just hook the onenter on the bar, I was sure that was possible
15:44.57moonsorrowthe thing is, I would need some additions which aren't in candybars as of now, and I won't need many things which candybars provide
15:44.58vhaarror is that only onclick
15:45.11[Ammo]you can specify an onclick
15:45.38vhaarr[Ammo]: rip out the onclick stuff and make it a generic on* override mechanism then
15:45.50vhaarrmoonsorrow: That's not the thing.
15:45.52[Ammo]how do you mean?
15:46.11vhaarrmoonsorrow: The thing is that CandyBars should cover your needs, and if it does not, we will make it so that it does.
15:46.17Silviu-Revision 31861: /
15:46.20Silviu-Yay ! ;)
15:46.44vhaarr[Ammo]: so that he can override onenter/onleave
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15:46.50vhaarr[Ammo]: which would make tooltips possible
15:47.04[Ammo]I'll just allow an onenter onleave to be set
15:47.09[Ammo]similar to onclick
15:47.24pastamancersync complete
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15:47.45renchapthx a lot pastamancer
15:47.47Silviu-thx pastamancer
15:48.07Roartindoncool... time to update :)
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15:59.03sbunevcairiel: auras fixed? :P
15:59.26nevcairielworks for me (tm)
15:59.29[Ammo]:)
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15:59.53nevcairieli ran 20minutes in circles buffing me and removing the buff again
15:59.57sbuhmhm
15:59.58sbukk :p
15:59.58nevcairieland couldnt detect any errors
16:00.33nadas(lastlog pastamancer 20
16:00.36nadasoops
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16:01.50HjalteIf i want to update ace addons, will i need to do it from the ace svn now?
16:02.01nevcairielno
16:02.04[Ammo]files repo should be up-to-date soon
16:02.10nevcairielactually now
16:02.16nevcairiel18:00 just passed
16:02.37nevcairieloh, script still running
16:02.40nevcairiellots of catching up todo
16:02.46Hjalte:D
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16:04.08ravagernlportraits are still buggedd in pitbull
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16:05.34nevcairieli think the script is done
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16:08.37ravagernlby the way what happened to sprocket? I cannot find it in the  /files dir anymore
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16:09.15sedatedChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/wtfpitbuff.jpg
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16:09.33sedatedChipmunkwhoever's doing pitbull buff icons, take a look at that
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16:10.01sedatedChipmunknevcairiel: ping
16:10.11[Ammo]sedatedChipmunk: that site is slow :p
16:10.19[Ammo]The server at 69.14.77.214 is taking too long to respond.
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16:11.05ravagernllol
16:11.05[Ammo]haha
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16:11.29sedatedChipmunkis it really timing out?
16:11.43sedatedChipmunkonly thing i have running is wow, actually
16:11.49vhaarrworks here
16:11.49nevcairielhow does that shit happen :o
16:11.59sedatedChipmunkit's my pet target
16:12.04sedatedChipmunkand it happens whenever he got feared
16:12.16nevcairielhrm
16:12.36sedatedChipmunkbecause the target clears
16:13.04sedatedChipmunkthat's the entire size of the bar
16:13.11sedatedChipmunks/bar/frame/
16:13.24nevcairieli see that yea
16:13.35ravagernlhttp://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4341/wtfpitbuffkb6.jpg dah
16:13.54ravagernlimageshack transload ftw
16:14.10Firedancerhm. buffs look ok for pitbull but my debuffs are being stuck in the castbar and stretching (despite telling them to be above the frame)  ... a lot like that img actually
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16:14.42Firedanceron targetframe for me tho instead of pet target
16:14.45HjalteIs anyone going to work with the idea from the forums i think it was, with changing the portrait into the spell icon when casting a spell with pitbull?
16:14.54Saint-Nthat buff is awesome!
16:15.13Silviu-nevcairiel debuffs are borked :/
16:15.18sedatedChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/wtfpitref.jpg
16:15.27sedatedChipmunkthat's what it looked like when he wasn't feared
16:15.35Saint-Ni'd love it id the portrait frame could just be replaced with the buffs
16:15.40sedatedChipmunknotice the debuffs aren't on the target bar like they should be
16:15.43Silviu-U only looked at buffs ... look at debuffs too and test :(
16:15.49Saint-Nid == if
16:16.17sedatedChipmunkor anywhere else, for that matter
16:16.24Saint-Ni'd also like a "display party in raid option" or someone to tell me where that is ;P
16:16.33sedatedChipmunkthe only time i could see his debuffs was when the pet got feared and i got that weirdness
16:16.42nevcairielhmm
16:16.44nevcairieldebuffs eh
16:17.05Saint-Ndebuffs under the frame buffs in the portrait frame == sexy
16:17.21Silviu-I see around 3 debuffs in a raid
16:17.22Silviu-:)
16:17.27Silviu-Don`t see mine at all
16:17.37Saint-Nmaybe you have none ;)
16:17.39CIA-1103rabbit * r31863 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoadOnDemand: Prevent 1 table creation per addon.
16:17.44Saint-Nyou might be super impervious!
16:18.05Saint-Nwhy even weakened soul doesnt effect you!
16:18.08Silviu-^^
16:18.18Saint-Nwas looking at the gladiator stuff
16:18.31Saint-Nand the set bonuses are rather pathetic for priests (shadow or otherwise)
16:18.53HjalteHmm, what happened to the colours that usually is in the CIA commit messages?
16:18.55Saint-N4 piece is like 2 seconds off weakened soul which is alright and all but not worthy of a set bonus
16:19.40Saint-NHjalte: ?? it's been like that for a long time
16:19.40nevcairielthe thing is
16:19.40nevcairieldebuffs show for me :o
16:19.40HjalteSaint-N, like since yesterday you mean?
16:19.40Saint-Nand the 2 piece is like +50 resistance(0.72%)
16:19.44Silviu-nevcairiel damn strange ..
16:19.52Silviu-Wait we start maulgar and i`ll mak a screen
16:19.59Saint-NHjalte: since like always, i actually dont remember it being any other colours than above
16:20.22HjalteSaint-N, does the CIA message have any special colours in your window?
16:20.39Saint-Nname and rev. green comments and such dull cyan
16:21.03hyperChipmunkHjalte: always been colored for me
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16:21.13Firedancerhm. now that ya mention it, chatzilla isn't showing those colors anymore for me.
16:21.19Saint-Noh yer using the java app
16:21.26djsparkdoes Rabbit ever idle here?
16:21.29Saint-Nthats achatzilla brokenage
16:21.44packetlssanyone have the URL for CIA bot page?
16:21.48Saint-Ni think you need to turn on mirc colours
16:21.49HjaltehyperChipmunk, yeah and it has always been coloured for me. But now its just normal dull text. I'm using the same irc app as always, Chatzilla.
16:21.50shieldbHjalte, hmm, I see the name as green, rev number is bold, addon name is dull cyan, comments and everything else is normal
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16:22.11pastamancerpacketlss: cia.vc
16:22.12hyperChipmunkstill colored
16:22.16FiredancercZ was updated yesterday...i think something in their update broke it
16:22.23Saint-Nwell yeah extended comments are reg colour chat
16:22.27hyperChipmunkmaybe you sux
16:22.42HjalteI'll try and find a setting for mirc colours, but i never switched it off :p
16:23.03Saint-Na lot of the time people that make stuff hate mirc colours so its default off ;)
16:23.18Saint-Nbecause mirc is the debil
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16:23.25Saint-Nand bitchx is his goatwhore
16:23.43Saint-Nwhy not just get a real client?
16:24.06xyusuch as?
16:24.08djsparkvhaarr: is the current closetgnome behavior during a feign death the intended behavior? it currently disarms
16:24.09shieldbhttp://oregonstate.edu/~shieldbe/update.png is how cia messages show up in hydra if that's any help
16:24.09Saint-Nor rather an actual client
16:24.10hyperChipmunkirssi ftw!
16:24.19HjalteWhat's a real client then? :)
16:24.23Saint-Nirssi, openchat32, bitchx for win, xchat
16:24.39vhaarrdjspark: disarms?
16:25.07vhaarrchatZilla ftw
16:25.08djsparkvhaarr: yes, when I feign my weapons are both taken off
16:25.16xyuis there an irssi for win?
16:25.19Saint-Nhttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/openchat-32.rar
16:25.20renchapirssi > *
16:25.24vhaarrdjspark: and you are sure closetgnome does that, and not closetgnome_ohnoes?
16:25.33renchapxyu: putty, and screen+irssi on a unix box ^^
16:25.35djsparkvhaarr: good point, it is the ohnoes
16:25.38vhaarrdjspark: it should not do anything special when you FD
16:25.40vhaarrright
16:25.43Saint-Nhell even mirand's irc client is better than a web based irc one ;P
16:25.56Saint-Ni like scrollz on my nix boxen
16:26.13xyui dont want a unix box
16:26.14djsparkvhaarr: so can ohnoes not activate on feign? or can it not detect the difference?
16:26.21Saint-Nmac == nix ;P
16:26.26vhaarrdjspark: yes it can
16:26.35Hjaltevhaar, is there going to be any improvements to closetgnome_mount or should i keep using this other addon for mount switching? With _mount, it sometimes didnt switch my gear eg when i died mounted and such.
16:26.51vhaarrdjspark: I'm sorry, but I don't have time to fix it right now, remind me in 6 hours
16:27.16Silviu-nevcairiel http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot040407192407sm1.jpg
16:27.16djsparkvhaarr: no problem, thanks for your time
16:27.31Saint-Nxyu: http://www.nordichardware.com/filearchive/fil,162.html
16:27.59xyuneat
16:27.59xyuthx
16:28.23Saint-Nits lacking in a lot of the common place script functions from most irc clients
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16:28.34Saint-Nbut theres a pretty big plugin list for it ;P
16:29.02nevcairielwow that looks weird Silviu-
16:29.07Silviu-yes :/
16:29.57hyperChipmunkoh neat; didn't know there was an irssi for win
16:30.00nevcairielsomething is terribly wrong with the aura code
16:30.05nevcairielbut i cannot get what
16:30.10packetlsshas anyone tried DDO?
16:30.30hyperChipmunknow i have something to recommend to ppl with windows
16:30.45hyperChipmunknevcairiel: maybe its author is a retard?
16:30.53Fisker-can anyone check something quick for me?
16:31.05hyperChipmunkyou know, just a consideration...
16:31.15nevcairielhyperChipmunk: no idea, i only hackes some things in and didnt write it .. so .. a possibilty :D
16:31.17Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar/plugins/bossprogress/bossprogress.php <-when you mouse over the any part of the bosses does all lines become underlined?
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16:31.56HjalteFisker-, when i move my mouse over their names
16:31.58hyperChipmunknevcairiel: but you hackes the part tha messed up!
16:31.59ag`nevcairiel: pling
16:32.04hyperChipmunklol
16:32.11Fisker-alright Hjalte
16:32.12Mikmaloser
16:32.12nevcairielhyperChipmunk: well before it couldnt show shit :P
16:32.12hyperChipmunknevcairiel's a popular guy atm
16:32.18Fisker-Just tried h4x0ring it
16:32.23nevcairielag`?
16:32.27Fisker-Cause before it did it when you just mouseover'ed the table
16:32.50hyperChipmunkFisker-: only underlines the name when you mouse over the name; nothing else
16:32.59Fisker-yeah i just tried to fix it
16:33.06Fisker-Just wanted to test if it was Firesux compliant
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16:33.09Fisker-hoho
16:33.14ag`nevcairiel: I am thinking about going into the aura buisness
16:33.18ag`are you the guy to talk to?
16:33.34Fisker-kneel ag`
16:33.36Fisker-KNEEEL
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16:33.49nevcairielag`: nah not really, i just tinkered around with it a bit today
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16:33.55nevcairielfeel free to hack it even more :)
16:34.00hyperChipmunkhaha
16:34.02ag`yeah, that's what I wanted
16:34.08Silviu-Have to revert it :(
16:34.12Fisker-Unlike your society i don't require you to stand up, i only require you to kneel
16:34.14hyperChipmunktranslation: nevcairiel, you're breaking my UI
16:34.22AmadeohyperChipmunk: You'd be hard pressed to find a more efficient IRC client in Windows than mIRC, regardless of how much people seem to hate it :)
16:34.27ag`does the pitbull layout set the width of the aura frame?
16:34.40TecnoBrathttp://www.xs4all.nl/~jvdkuyp/flash/see.htm
16:34.42nevcairielyes
16:34.49hyperChipmunkAmadeo: you have to look at that tool everytime you start the program though
16:34.54nevcairielin ABF the width is based on the frame width
16:34.57nevcairielobviously :)
16:35.04ag`nevcairiel: what about numbers of auras per line?
16:35.05AmadeohyperChipmunk: haha
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16:35.38AmadeoThe only real reason I use mIRC is because it's so light on resources
16:35.38nevcairielag`: i added a setting for that today
16:35.41[Ammo]nevcairiel: actually it's not based on the width of the frame
16:35.46[Ammo]nevcairiel: I'll fix that :p
16:35.50[Ammo]it's a fixed 160px
16:35.59ag`nevcairiel: ever tried ag_UnitFrames?
16:36.00nevcairielit is?
16:36.10[Ammo]yeah it is
16:36.12nevcairielag`: i am still using it for raids, until pitbull works good :p
16:36.17ag`nevcairiel: ok
16:36.20ag`well the thing is
16:36.29ag`I want auras to line up perfectly to the aura frame
16:36.29nevcairiel[Ammo]: well it was .. setpoint from one corner to the other
16:36.33ag`to the edges of the aura frame
16:36.50ag`in ag_UnitFrames it is done through scale, and I think it works really, really well
16:36.56nevcairielaura_size = frame.auraFrame:GetWidth() / aura_cols
16:37.00nevcairielthats what i do right now
16:37.08ag`let me see ingame
16:37.09[Ammo]nevcairiel: oh it's only set to 160 when you put auras on the side
16:37.43Saint-Nhey ag
16:37.49Saint-Nwerent you gonna redo yer code n stuff?
16:37.59[Ammo]which is why sedatedChip is getting the wide auras
16:38.01ag`it's probably all about pitbull now
16:38.15Saint-Nfor some not all ;P
16:38.24ag`it looks quite good and a lot of people in the community is interested in developing for it
16:38.30Saint-Ni ask because i'd really love it if hidden == not loaded
16:38.36RoartindonAnd it's easier to develop for :)
16:38.41ag`yes, it is
16:38.42Hjalteckknight, what about adding an option to block the default blizzard buff icons to pitbull, in case you only want to use the pitbull auras? :)
16:38.44Saint-Nall i want is party frames
16:38.47Saint-Nnothing else
16:39.11RoartindonPitbull does a great job of party frames I think. Party/PartyTarget/PartyPets/etc.
16:39.24Saint-Nitbulls recycle is nice and all but unfortunately it HATES any unit button addons
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16:39.40Saint-Nthats my main sadness
16:39.41ag`unit button addons needs to adapt :D
16:39.57Saint-Nor someone needs to make a custom one for pitbull ;P
16:40.09Saint-Na really simple simple simple one
16:40.45Saint-Nessentially a single bar that you can drag and drop stuff in like spells macros etc, but have it propgate for the selected groupings
16:41.07Saint-Ni suck at coding though so i have a feeling im just gonna be sad for a while ;P
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16:41.47ag`hm
16:42.04ag`there should be a way to control font type/size
16:42.19[Ammo]ckknight was talking about that
16:42.25ag`yeah
16:42.27[Ammo]and a way for layouts to 'hint' font sizes
16:42.29[Ammo]etc
16:42.38ag`because I currently feel that the font is too big :)
16:42.44[Ammo]it's not
16:42.46[Ammo]it's perfect :p
16:42.53ElkanoSaint-N, why not use a simply click-casting mod?
16:43.01Saint-Nnot a big fan of click casting
16:43.03ag`It's too wide [Ammo] :D
16:43.10Saint-Nfor a couple of reasons actually
16:43.50Saint-N1. im visual, with buttons that grey out i can see what i dont need to cast(healing wise anyways) because of stacki9ng hots this is a bit more cumbersom to just check the buffs on the target
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16:44.07RoartindonAmmo: It depends on what your gamefont is changed to
16:44.10Saint-Nsince i dont know which is mine ;P
16:44.12RoartindonMine ends up really really big
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16:44.15[Ammo]I did not change my gamefont
16:44.25[Ammo]default blizzard
16:44.29ag`I use cleartype
16:44.38RoartindonYeah, that's probably why. :) With clearfont, the names end up big
16:44.41nevcairielClearFont2 all the way
16:44.44CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31864 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: Aura: fixed a bug with too wide auras on the left/right
16:44.52Roartindonbut I did go through my own layout.lua file and put in my own fonts for now
16:44.58Saint-N2. i use a side numberpd for my usual spells and movement hotkeys, so having to reach for ctrl-alt-shift  again forces a delay
16:45.13Saint-Nbut thats about it really
16:45.16[Ammo]move with wasd
16:45.21Saint-Nand why i've love a pitbull compatible one
16:45.44Saint-Ni do move with tose letters but its on a gaming "keypad"
16:46.25Saint-N9 buttons 2 "alt buttons" so 27 button combos
16:46.27ag`modifier keys for the win
16:46.38[Ammo]then your gaming keypad is flawed
16:46.41Saint-Nerr 18
16:46.46[Ammo]if it doesn't allow for alt ctrl shift
16:46.46xyunostromo?
16:46.50xyuor whatever that is
16:46.53Saint-Nit does
16:47.23Saint-Nbut why would i make 3 of the keys alt/crtl/shift when i still need to move my mouse to said target
16:47.30Saint-Nthats rather retarded
16:47.44[Ammo]you need to move mouse to the correct button anyway
16:47.49[Ammo]I love my normal mouse though
16:47.53Saint-Ntrue but its ONLY the mouse
16:47.56[Ammo]button 4 = big heal, button 5 = fast heal
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16:48.10Saint-Nyeah my work mouse kicks the crap out my home mouse ;)
16:48.13[Ammo]modifiers make the heals into different things
16:48.26Saint-Nbut im used to button healie
16:48.41[Ammo]button healing in a raid is teh suck
16:48.42Saint-Nand i did use click healing for about 2 months
16:48.48Saint-Nin raid i use rdx
16:48.51[Ammo]so many fricking buttons
16:48.53sbuhm
16:48.56ravagernlDoes pitbull use sharedmedialib to handle fonts?
16:49.03[Ammo]not yet, but it can
16:49.04Saint-Nbut in a raid im ONLY either healing or dpsing
16:49.09sbubutton 4 = dispel magic, button 5 = cure disease
16:49.18sbu1-5 -> heal+shield+renew
16:49.19Saint-Nin 5man or solo i alternate constantly
16:49.21sbu:)
16:49.26[Ammo]my button 4 and 5 are different size
16:49.33[Ammo]the big one = big heal
16:49.37[Ammo]makes it easy to remember :)
16:49.40ravagernlI want SurfaceControl for fonts :)
16:49.47Saint-Nthe raddest part of my "gaming" keypad
16:49.51Saint-Ni can make timed macros
16:50.04Saint-N1 button for all my  dots ;)
16:50.32packetlsscool
16:50.40packetlssi gotta try that with my g15
16:50.42ravagernlthat's baddass
16:50.42Saint-Ni had one that would target each party member and cast renew
16:50.49Saint-Nin 1 press
16:50.52[Ammo]the castsequence can almost do that
16:50.55[Ammo]the dot thing that is
16:50.59Saint-Nnods
16:51.00[Ammo]not the targetting and renewing
16:51.06Saint-Nbut you need to hit it more than once
16:51.10[Ammo]yeah
16:51.13[Ammo]but I want control :)
16:51.19Saint-Nit took me 9 months to realize my keypad could do it too
16:51.43Saint-Nhehe well im shadow, so pain vt and ve are always supposed to be on it
16:52.09Saint-Nand i usually forget about vt if i do it manually
16:52.26Saint-Nplus ive still got them on my action bars if i wanna single do them
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16:53.44ravagernlI would use Chronometer to see when to pain vt and ve would expire
16:54.23OzzwaldCKK, Pitbull is looking fantastic! I see you've already started to pick up some addOn supporters as well :)
16:54.59sbuhm nevcairiel
16:55.17Saint-Ni have chrono
16:55.26Saint-Nbut i keep forgetting about it ;P
16:55.29nevcairielsbu?
16:55.36vodrinspellwatch seems better than chrono
16:55.38sbu1 sec ;)
16:55.40Silviu-nevcariel i also have no tooltips for debuffs
16:55.49Saint-Nspellwatch same idea?
16:55.53CIA-1103ag * r31865 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: 1 point padding between bars as in ag_UnitFrames
16:56.04Saint-Ncollection of bars that show a countdown?
16:56.09vodrinyeah but more customisable and chrono seems to drop debuffs sometimes
16:56.23Saint-Nhrm ill check it out
16:56.23sbunevcairiel: http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4387/pitbull6rr9.jpg :))
16:56.30ag`my new change rocks
16:56.51Roartindonag: Heh, that was the first thing I did with my own layout :)
16:57.06Silviu-sbu strange things i have too
16:57.08Silviu-Sec :D
16:57.17nevcairielwhat the hell are you doing with your buffs ? :D
16:57.43ravagernlag': What change then :)
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16:58.10ag`ravagernl: see svn log :P
16:58.21ravagernlag_uf?
16:58.31Roartindon"ag * r31865 PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: 1 point padding between bars as in ag_UnitFrames"
16:58.42ravagernlnoooooooooo
16:58.59[dRaCo]great change :)
16:59.09ravagernlI was liking the 0px between the bars
16:59.11vodrincould a 'hide health bar' option be made
16:59.11ag`quite minor bit it was killing my eyes
16:59.21vodrinreally don't need to see my mana batteries health =x
16:59.24sbunevcairiel: hmm - those things are gone if i have some use for that frame (e.g. top right is targettarget + targettarget-target, if they are set -> ok, but if i select another target w/o target, ... -> see screenshot)
16:59.26RoartindonPixel differences seem to hurt ag's eyes a lot
16:59.35[dRaCo]make it customisable, how about that?
16:59.36sbuand those in the middle are party target and pets
16:59.42ag`I'm a pixel whore
16:59.45Silviu-sbu, nevcariel http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot040407195259mc4.jpg
16:59.48[dRaCo]like, adding a setting for the spacing
17:00.02ravagernlwhat scale are you people running aguf/pitbull on
17:00.02Silviu-Where that strange thing is should be targetoftarget
17:00.08Silviu-Sometimes it apear that thing instead
17:00.09Silviu-:D
17:00.12sbuyep
17:00.15sbusame here
17:00.37nevcairielsbu: weird
17:01.00[dRaCo]currently 180*55 at 100%, ravagernl
17:01.01[dRaCo]at least the ones without castbar
17:01.10ag`I would like to run 100%, but can't currently because of clearfont and pitbull not overriding default fonts
17:01.13nevcairieli still blame the frame recycling
17:01.14ravagernlusing 200x50 @ 130%
17:02.13moonsorrownevcairiel: don't know if someone said that already, but debuffs aren't positioned correctly, they all stack on one place
17:02.37TecnoBratAntiarc|Work ping?
17:02.45Antiarc|WorkPong
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17:03.27TecnoBratDo you know if it is possible to add "Block Value" to the "Guild summary generator" for warriors on your armory tools?
17:03.29sbuah better
17:03.29sbuwait
17:03.43Antiarc|WorkTecnoBrat: Should be. I'll check into it.
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17:04.08TecnoBrathmmm not sure its listed anywhere now that I mention it
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17:04.43sbuckknight, nevcairiel: http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3425/pitbull7jq2.jpg - "hide party in raid" is checked..., but there is 1 party member, 1 party target, 1 party pet and some strange aura :o
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17:06.43nevcairielsomething is weird with PitBull
17:06.46nevcairieland thats not my fault
17:06.58CIA-1103kemayo * r31866 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua:
17:06.58CIA-11PitBull: Portrait, drycoded
17:06.58CIA-11-pseudo-fix for pet class icons.
17:06.58CIA-11-better updating of fallbacks if changed while active.
17:07.29[dRaCo]does the class icon work for raids now?
17:07.43ag`seems like some space is getting wasted at the bottom of the ABF layout
17:08.19[Ammo]should be a 5px border around the frame
17:08.27ag`yeah, maybe it's just a scale thing
17:08.33ag`I'll look deeper
17:09.03CIA-1103choumarin * r31867 10BankAccountant/libs/:
17:09.03CIA-11BankAccountant:
17:09.03CIA-11- externals update
17:10.02Silviu-renchap don`t tell me it blocked again ^^
17:10.11Kemayo[dRaCo]: No idea. Was it causing errors in raids?
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17:11.18renchapSilviu-: Failed to get lock on destination repos, currently held by 'wowace.com:9f36d38b-4c2d-0410-badb-c51b94fe6f8a'
17:11.25Silviu-Heh
17:11.26Silviu-:/
17:11.32Silviu-Oh works now
17:11.59kergothrenchap: did you do the propdel i suggested last night?
17:12.30pastamancerthe mirror script is a bit smarter now
17:12.30renchapi havent seen the suggest :D
17:13.08Silviu-nevcariel how did u set up your aura thingy
17:13.16kergothlast night i noticed that the mirror wasnt updating due to the stale lock, so gave you the command to remove it on irc.  i'm glad pasta made it automatically do that now :)
17:13.17Silviu-I will do the same maybe it will work ^^
17:13.30Oridan~seen nymbia
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17:14.19nevcairielSilviu-: nothing special, just 12x2 or so, no split
17:14.19Silviu-Ok
17:14.19Silviu-I did 16
17:14.19Silviu-I`ll do 12
17:14.34Silviu-Prioritize Debuffs on ?
17:14.45nevcairielyea
17:14.50nevcairielbut shouldnt really matter
17:15.07sbuhmmm
17:15.15sbufriendly target buffs are ok
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17:15.22Silviu-I`ll try same as u :D
17:15.23sbuhostile target debuffs are screwed
17:15.27Silviu-Yes
17:15.31Silviu-true sbu
17:15.31Silviu-:)
17:15.49Firedanceryeah mine are all wonky. even deleted my saved vars incase that was messing em up somehow
17:15.55xyuis botanica pretty easy to solo heal as a pally with very mediocre healing gear (760ish) ?
17:16.01hyperChipmunkag`: thx for that separation
17:16.07chutwigdidn't you ask that yesterday xyu
17:16.11hyperChipmunkthat was bothering the bajeezus out of me
17:16.12xyunope
17:16.16xyui asked arcatraz
17:16.18xyui've never done botanica
17:16.25xyuhaven't even stepped inside yet
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17:16.55Roartindonxyu: Yes, it is easy enough to solo heal
17:17.07xyuk thx
17:17.07Roartindonwith moderate gear
17:17.08AmadeoIf you have a vendor window open, and that vendor spawns rare patterns and such, will the pattern appear when they have it, or will you have to close the window and open it again to see it?
17:17.23chutwigclose and open
17:17.26Amadeothank ya
17:17.28*** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ
17:17.29[dRaCo]Kemayo: yes, it was... somebody here knew about it, though
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17:19.39Funkeh`hi all
17:21.35xyucan pitbull move the castbar to the top ?
17:22.35[dRaCo]that's a layout thingy... should be possible
17:22.48Silviu-nevcariel , any highlight on ? from debuffs i mean
17:22.55Saint-Nare we gonna get a collection of layouts for pitbull on the svn?
17:23.58ravagernlI'd rather have each layout in it's own directory, every layout its own addon
17:24.01Chomperseventually
17:24.10Saint-Nrav thats sorta what i meant
17:24.20Saint-Njust with an ingame "switcher" of sorts
17:24.27ravagernlanyone has problems logging? cant get further then authenticating
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17:25.02sbumh
17:25.09sbuyep ravagernl, our mt :/
17:25.22ravagernlbah
17:25.31ravagernllogon.wow-europe.com right
17:26.29ravagernlno wait, eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
17:26.37Mikmai have problems loginin in too
17:27.23[dRaCo]I do, too... ping to eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com times out
17:27.36ravagernlyup, same for me
17:27.45sbuMEEH
17:27.49sbuneed tank in karazhan
17:28.00NeoTronseems like it wouldn't be too hard to make a login service that's not a single point of failure
17:28.03NeoTronyou'd think
17:28.10RoartindonI didn't think that blizzard's logon servers responded to ping messages
17:28.47RoartindonWhen the US logon servers were misbehaving, often substituting one of the other IPs worked for us and we could get the whole guild on
17:28.50[dRaCo]I'll check that as soon as I'm able to login
17:29.03Roartindonie. 80.239.178.109-117
17:29.19RoartindonChange your realmlist.wtf
17:29.28Roartindonto set realmlist 80.239.180.114
17:29.30Roartindonor some other number
17:29.37Roartindonrelaunch wow, and try to logon
17:29.44NeoTroncompared to a game like wow as a whole...
17:29.52NeoTronhow hard can it possibly be to do the login part?
17:30.03ravagernl80.239.178.116 is what a lookup of eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com returns for me
17:30.11Tornhoofmore complicated than that
17:30.11Roartindon80.239.178.109-116 or 80.239.180.110-117 are the IPs
17:30.25Tornhoofyou can try telnet eu.logn.worldofwarcraft.com 3724
17:30.26ravagernlthanks
17:30.28Tornhoofyou can try telnet eu.login.worldofwarcraft.com 3724
17:30.32Tornhoofif you get a connection
17:30.40Tornhoofyour routing aien'T fucked ;)
17:30.41Roartindonnslookup or dig the result, if you ping, you only get one of the IPs
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17:31.01xyui still can't get rapidcast to work. i think i'll try CBRipoff
17:31.05xyusee if it works w/ that
17:31.29ravagernlomg. im not getting anything
17:31.35ravagernlconnection failed
17:31.48ravagernlill try to do what roartindon said
17:31.57Roartindontry this:
17:31.57Roartindontelnet 80.239.180.112 3724
17:32.02Roartindonthat address works for me atm
17:32.14Roartindonthen put that in your realmlist.wtf.. the 80.239.180.112 bit
17:32.25Silviu-Crit error and now can`t login
17:32.25Silviu-:/
17:32.39sbuplz try 180.239.180.112 Silviu-
17:32.43sbuerr 80
17:32.44renchapeu logon server are also broken here
17:32.54renchapfrom 4 different networks
17:32.54Silviu-I`ll try
17:32.55Tornhoof80.239.180.112 works here too
17:32.59renchapso thats a blizzard problem
17:33.11Tornhoofyeh it usually is
17:33.12ravagernlthat works :D
17:33.18Tornhoofthe problem is
17:33.19[dRaCo]been trying to trace it... breaks somewhere within telia's network
17:33.27Tornhoofthat their load balancing is kinda bad
17:33.52Tornhoofif one is broken, apparently it does not reroute to the remaining ones, so they won't be dos'd
17:33.54Silviu-Same shit
17:33.59Silviu-Autentificating ..
17:34.05Silviu-And nothing more
17:34.15renchapwhere can i get the files.wowace.com script ?
17:34.24ravagernldisconnected from server 0o
17:34.24[dRaCo]I want a free day!
17:34.30ravagernl:o
17:34.34Silviu-ravagernl eu ?
17:34.36Tovorthorray i missed server problems, wow was impossibly stable :D
17:34.48ravagernlyes
17:35.04Silviu-ravagernl join the club of ppl that can`t login back
17:35.05Silviu-:/
17:35.32ravagernlbah
17:36.38Ozzwaldis there a good Ace substitute for TrinityBars?
17:36.46WoWNoobAddict82Bartender
17:37.02hyperChipmunkName:us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
17:37.03hyperChipmunkAddress: 12.129.224.113
17:37.21hyperChipmunkO_o bliz has class A network?
17:37.23sbu112 works
17:37.25sbuthx :)
17:37.38Tornhoofnah
17:37.55Tornhoofthey don't have class a
17:38.03ravagernlcrap accidently deleted realmlist.wtf ><
17:38.16ravagernlwhat was that line again
17:38.25Tornhoofset realmlist eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
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17:38.50Tornhooflooks like its working again "somehow"
17:39.12Ozzwald>WowNoobAddict82- does it have a lot of the same save bars functionality, and ability to do the mousehover keybinding etc?
17:39.54ravagernlozzwald: if you know what ace2 profiles are, bartender3 works with that
17:39.58hyperChipmunkah, the 12s are bell/at&t
17:40.06ravagernland you can copy a profile from another char if you want
17:40.29djsparkckknight: is the ability for fubar to have a delay on mouseover in the pipeline for fubar?
17:40.35Ozzwaldi've just started getting into more and more ace stuff, and it's just massively more efficient than what i've been using
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17:41.05Ozzwaldi'm an addOn-aholic but moving most to ace alternatives
17:41.11Ozzwaldi really like Pitbull now
17:41.12ravagernlwhat do you mean with mousehover keybinding ozzwald?
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17:41.47Ozzwaldlike for Trinity, when you're in configure mode you can toggle keybinding on and hold the cursor over a button and press anything on your keyboard and it will bind it to that key
17:44.04xyubah rapidcast worked for the very first cast but all casts after did not work.
17:45.05AmadeoI notice you can still just right click the ToT and ToTT frames to bring up the full menu, even when PitBull frames are locked...still think it's a bad idea, too :P
17:49.31Roartindonxyu: which revision of RapidCast do you have?
17:51.00xyuchecking
17:51.10mjcmeh.
17:51.38kergothmeh, the 'svn-load' tool needs an option for a commit message the way svn_load_dirs did
17:52.33xyu31794\
17:53.37xyuI'm going to try and do an uninstall / reinstall on all addons
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17:58.19mitch1hi
18:01.04Fisker-I'm gonna rape you all
18:01.42Mikmaok
18:01.47Mikmastart from ckknight
18:01.48mitch1so, what should I change in InFlight to use SharedMedia instead of surfacelib?
18:02.13Fisker-don't mean with? :o
18:02.14AmadeoNow that PitBull has a graphical combo point indicator, can we get rid of that annoying text in the middle of the target mana bar? :)
18:02.33ag`I think you can disable it perhaps?
18:02.40Amadeocan you? let me look again
18:02.47mitch1that's the "combat text" I believe
18:03.16Amadeohah
18:03.16AmadeoI found it
18:03.16Fisker-damn
18:03.16Amadeothanks ag`
18:03.16Fisker-wrong person
18:06.03CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31868 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: Aura: some logic changes
18:06.03Fisker-in b4 b& ag`
18:06.03Funkeh`who broke pitbul target
18:06.04Firedancerhm. wonder if that'll fix my debuff issues
18:06.04Funkeh`its not clearing buffs/castbar when untargetting
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18:06.04Firedancerthis is what's happening for me atm: http://twilightguild.org/screenshots/wackydebuffs.jpg
18:06.05nevcairielthats a funny behavior
18:06.26TecnoBratYou must have the "comedy" setting turned on
18:07.08Funkeh`im getting the exact same thing
18:07.17Funkeh`it stays after you untarget
18:07.19mjcI think I might hide an alka-seltzer in my ex's tampon.
18:07.39Funkeh`and the castbar is tottaly screwed
18:08.17TecnoBratWow, that is a classic quote "-11:05:49- (mjc) I think I might hide an alka-seltzer in my ex's tampon."
18:08.26mjchttp://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/irresponsible_activities/alkseltz.html
18:08.41Mikmahmm, shouldn't there be easter in WoW now?
18:08.52Funkeh`its definately an auras problem
18:08.56Funkeh`auras are taking over the frame
18:09.10Funkeh`instead of showing health/mana im seeing a stretched aura icon like fort
18:09.11mjcI havea problem with auras in regular wow without addons atm.
18:09.21mjceg. pally auras
18:09.22Firedancernoblegarden (wow easter) is april 15th
18:09.25mjcnot fort
18:09.36Funkeh`its got nothing to do wiht the alt tab aura corruption
18:09.43Funkeh`put your ui acceleration to 2
18:10.09Funkeh`its a pitbul problem
18:10.20CIA-1103jerry * r31869 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: put color removal back as it is used for "white" bonuses of the new generic items.
18:10.42nevcairieli think its a problem with frame recycling
18:10.56[dRaCo]Kemayo: just checked... class icon is still broken in raids
18:11.04Funkeh`it wasn't there last night so between then and today :p
18:11.12Firedancerhow often does the files site update? svn seems stuck again.
18:11.14kergoththat bartender3 reversion didnt fix my problem
18:11.21kergothmy bars still arent obeying the savedvar profile
18:11.22kergoth:\
18:11.31nevcairieli thought it fixed it at first?
18:11.38Mikmaummmmm, is it on purpose that CastBar shows last spell with gray text? :D
18:11.56kergothno, -me- switching to the old revision fixed it
18:12.02kergothi never tested after you committing your reversion
18:12.07nevcairieloh
18:12.13nevcairielits basicly nothing changed
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18:12.43kergothi'm doing a diff, checking
18:12.44nevcairielreally, only some locale updates
18:12.45mjchey clad.
18:13.02Mikma[Ammo]: you know about the castbar?
18:13.04mjcthe shock. the horror
18:13.08cladhairehi
18:13.20Mikmacladhaire: hi 2 u 2
18:13.21Oridanzomg, that aura bug is bizarre
18:13.59nevcairieli think delFrame is messing it up somehow
18:17.02kergothhrm, seems fine now.  what the heck.  my wow hates me
18:17.06kergothi did find a bar3 profile bug though
18:17.08xyubah, did a full install on my addons and i can't get rapidcast to work. i must be doing something wrong.
18:17.13TecnoBratwe hate you too :P
18:17.15TecnoBratI mean .. uhhh
18:17.38kergothwhen you switch profiles, or copy another profile into the current one, bar3 isnt accounting for the # of buttons a bar has in the new profile
18:17.47mjclol I can't believe I'm trying out vista.
18:17.49mjcsomeone kill me.
18:17.55nevcairieloh
18:18.05mjckill faster.
18:18.44TecnoBratdamn, its not working
18:18.44mjc-a
18:18.44TecnoBratyou must of be a paladin ...
18:18.44TecnoBratdid you bubble?
18:18.44TecnoBrat-of
18:18.44Firedancerlolhebubbled
18:19.11mjcI'll probably keel over once I try to use vista.
18:19.19mjcit just rebooted after install.
18:20.38TecnoBratwow, that was quick actually
18:20.47ravagernlvhaarr: I just had an idea for cbripoff, why not make the frames clickthrough when they are locked
18:20.47mjc"Please wait a moment while windows prepares to start for the first time"
18:20.50Kemayo[dRaCo]: Thanks for testing -- I'll have to get into a raid and try it out myself.
18:20.56mjcTecnoBrat: this box is no slouch.
18:21.10Mikma[Ammo]: wake up :P
18:21.24TecnoBratmjc, whats the definition of "no slouch"?
18:21.43Kemayomjc: I tried it out a month or two ago.  Stopped when I realized that the drivers situation was crap.
18:21.48mjcdual xeon 5355
18:22.22xyusame
18:22.32[Ammo]Mikma; what?
18:22.34mjcTecnoBrat: I dunno. does that satisfy you?
18:22.41xyuThe video card drivers mostly.
18:22.58TecnoBratThat would be my definition of "no slouch" :P
18:23.00KemayoVideo card and, in my case, sound.
18:23.18mjcthe sound drivers for my card suck anus in windows period
18:23.37Mikma[Ammo]: small glitch with castbar. when you use HS you end up having gray text of "Heartstone" in the castbar :)
18:23.50[Ammo]not my problem :)
18:24.03Mikmayou're the only one who might know what to do with it
18:24.05KemayoIt killed my wow framerate.  So I'm in XP for the next few months.
18:24.12[Ammo]Mikma: not really
18:24.16KemayoI liked Vista for the most part, though.
18:24.31mjcI'm an OSX dude, this is mostly for shits and giggle.
18:24.31mjcs
18:24.37[Ammo]probably has to do with zoning when the castbar is casting etc
18:24.44mjcXP rebooted constantly because of the realtek drivers.
18:25.05mjcif I disable the sound card or use OSX or linux its' fine.
18:25.07mjc:P
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18:25.55pastamancerrealtek :(
18:26.18mjceh. it's built into intel reference boards.
18:26.21moonsorrow[Ammo]: don't think so, I've the same problem without zoning, in an instance#
18:26.51[Ammo]must be something roartindon changed
18:26.58[Ammo]dunno
18:27.11[Ammo]or it's the damn frame reuse stuff
18:27.18Silviu-^^
18:27.21Silviu-All blame that :P
18:27.37RoartindonPitBull debuff aura colouration..... should that be moved to the globals menu?
18:27.38nevcairieli blame it too
18:27.54RoartindonCurrently, it looks like a per-unit setting UI wise, but the colors are shared between all units.
18:28.08mjcslutdows
18:28.58mjchow fucking stupid can you be, MS.  it's running in 8 bit color. what the fuck.
18:29.24RoartindonMoonsorrow/mikma: So basically the text remains visible instead of fading out?
18:29.30xyumine adjusted automatically
18:29.47moonsorrowRoartindon: yes
18:29.51moonsorrowtext with timer at 0.0
18:30.10mjcxyu: it doens't have a driver for about 3/4 of my hardware, so it's pointless to test performance.
18:30.23mjchow hard is it to check the number of not instaleld devices and not check speed. retards
18:30.35Roartindonassume you're using latest revision?
18:30.46RoartindonI changed something
18:30.52Roartindonwhich exposed a bit of code that was wrong before
18:30.57moonsorrowI update everytime someone commits to it :)
18:31.11Roartindon"r31852 - PitBull: CastBar - typo in the original UpdateAllCastBars() used fadeout instead of fadeOut"
18:31.17mjcjust got my first UAC popup
18:31.17AmadeoProblems with installing Vista on a Mac?
18:31.19[Ammo]hmmm
18:31.25MikmaRevision: 31869
18:31.33MikmaRoartindon: so yeah, latest :)
18:31.44RoartindonShould work if I hearthstone or port with a mage right?
18:31.50RoartindonI'll go test/fix it now if I can make it occur :)
18:32.08MikmaRoartindon: i did hs with my rogue and the "Heartstone" was stuck on the castbar
18:32.18moonsorrowRoartindon: as I said, is has nothing to do with zoning, otherwise I wouldn't have had that problem in the eye
18:32.32Roartindonwas that a total zone-reload change? or one of those extended-pause zone changes?
18:32.36xyuyeah my hearthstone stuck too
18:32.38Roartindon(ie. did you get the splash screen in between?)
18:32.53xyufor me, no,  nether to shat
18:33.02mjcWTB macdrive for vista. :(
18:33.21RoartindonI used my hearthstone, and it didn't seem to stick
18:33.35RoartindonI'll try doing one which doesn't cause the splash screen to show
18:34.09ravagernlomg
18:34.26ravagernldoes anyone notice something in the portrait module?
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18:34.57Saint-Nall hunters are a 2-d picture of Grimace?
18:34.58ravagernlwhen I switch my weapons really fast in a chain, I get a random spelltexture as the targetportrait, even when that isnt visible
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18:35.13ravagernlI got berserking when switching between two staffs
18:35.22[Ammo]it's protection
18:35.26[Ammo]you shouldn't be switching that fast
18:35.31[Ammo]the target portrait warns you about that
18:35.32ravagernlwhen i spammed rightclick on the bagslot
18:35.49ravagernlI get berserking XD
18:36.10nevcairieli still blame recycling of textures
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18:36.34mitch1if anyone feels like porting InFlight to SharedMediaLib, please do :)
18:36.59Roartindonhmm.. I wonder if it's because I have a different layout
18:37.04ravagernland a bufftexture remained up too, couldn't get the name of the frame as it was clickthrough
18:37.04RoartindonI'll try using ABF.lua
18:37.04Silviu-nevcairiel i updated but still same behaviour
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18:37.09RoartindonI did notice that my auras went crazy after a port tho
18:37.13Saint-N"but i dont want semen to come out of it, i want maple syrup" -- said by a kid to his mom as i passed by them walking home last night
18:37.44pastamancerif only girls were made of pancakes
18:37.53pastamancerthen that kid would be set
18:37.57Saint-Nthey are pasta, they are!
18:38.18Saint-Nim thinking if it was maple syrup he's be set anways
18:38.50renchapcan a linux guru tell me how i can monitor my disks i/o ?
18:39.02Saint-Nstare at it real hard
18:39.09renchapi want to know which soft uses a lot my hard drive
18:39.24AmadeoWoW
18:39.27Saint-Nhah
18:39.43Saint-Ndu -h /
18:39.51Saint-Nand prepare for spam ;P
18:39.53Phatriknice, switching from agUF to PitBull, this addon is going places ... however I wish to be able to modify the size of text-elements
18:39.53pastamancervmstat
18:40.50ckknightdjspark: no, not now
18:41.07mjc6 UAC popups so far, and the computer still isn't usable
18:41.09Roartindonmoonsorrow - are you using your own custom layout?
18:41.20Roartindonsame question to mikma :)
18:42.01ckknightPProvost: pong
18:42.13mjcckk is a hero
18:42.21ckknighttrue.
18:42.22yacoobpastamancer, vmstat won't help much in pinning down the *process* that generates io
18:42.32AmadeoI need a heeeroooo
18:42.38HerioMiniButtLib?
18:42.39MikmaRoartindon: no
18:42.43renchapi already use dstat
18:42.43Saint-Ntop might ;P
18:42.47nevcairielckknight: we all blame frame recycling for some weird texture issues.
18:42.54ckknightlikely
18:42.55mjc7
18:42.59ckknightbut it's not the recycling mechanism itself
18:43.08ckknightit's modules using it in a fucked up way
18:43.08renchapbut i have a lot of cpu "waiting" in top, and i want to see why
18:43.18mjc8
18:43.20Heriodispite the name of this library, I'm erked at the reasoning behind its creation knowing that fubarplugin will handle it :O
18:43.28mjcrenchap: disk io?
18:43.31RoartindonAh, I've found the problem
18:43.42AmadeoMm, I think Gala apples are the best apples
18:43.43Saint-Nps ax |less
18:43.54ckknightHerio: ?
18:43.54Saint-Nshrug
18:43.54RoartindonProblem is that they're fading out (ie alpha is being set to half), then they're set to :Hide(), then a FrameLayout() call shows them again
18:43.59Heriopink lady apple = win
18:44.05Heriockknight: MiniButtLib?
18:44.10ckknightwhat is that?
18:44.14Heriorandomly saw it on file.
18:44.16Herio*files.
18:44.27Herio"Minimap button creation library (DarkImakuni)"
18:44.39pastamanceryacoob: true, vmstat would be the best place to start though, to see if it's swapping or if it's really process-initiated i/o
18:44.49yacoobiostat would be even better :)
18:44.58pastamancerI like BigButtLib and I cannot lie
18:44.59yacooband top, with looking at the flags
18:45.09renchapthats not swap
18:45.13Saint-Nall those other libs can't deny
18:45.15renchapcan be php processes or mysql
18:45.32Herio<something about round thing in your face>
18:45.32mjc'wait' usually means you have a fucked up driver
18:45.39pastamanceriirc iostat is a *BSD thing
18:45.51ckknightMiniButtLib looks poorly coded, imho
18:45.58ckknightthere's better ways to do what it's doing
18:46.01Saint-Nwhen a  draenie walks in with an itty bitty waist and blue tail in your face you get sprung
18:46.02Heriounfortunate
18:46.05Saint-Ndraeni got back
18:46.18mjccan't connect to my mac via samba with vista atm.
18:46.35Herioif I ever wanted a minimap button (why the hell would I? =P) I'd use fubar plugin :D
18:46.36mjcfucktards always dicking with basic fucking protocols.
18:46.37yacoob(if it'd be solaris, you'd be able to dtrace it :)
18:46.40renchapmjc: thats a box, with a kernel provided by the isp
18:46.42mjcwhat the fucking fuck.
18:46.55renchapcan it be because of software raid ?
18:47.04mjcyes.
18:47.14Heriovista is the first sign of the Apocalypse
18:47.37Herioyou better be Armageddon your homework done.
18:47.39mjcHerio: MS is.
18:47.45AmadeoGood thing Steve Jobs is God, am I right?
18:47.50Heriothen don't use it :d
18:47.54CIA-1103roartindon * r31870 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua:
18:47.54CIA-11PitBull: CastBar - since Layout calls cause elements to be reshown, instead of
18:47.54CIA-11calling Hide() on text displays, we set them to an empty string. This prevents
18:47.54CIA-11them from popping up again with low values of alpha (whatever they were set to
18:47.54CIA-11before finally fading out)
18:48.25RoartindonMikma/Moonsorrow - see how that works.
18:48.29MikmaRoartindon: will do
18:48.40AmadeoNot saying that Vista is any good, since I have no reason to use it now, but even if it were the best OS in the world, you know you'd still hate it :P
18:49.07Heriothere is no best :O
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18:49.28Heriothere's always gonna be pros and cons
18:49.41Heriodifferent strokes for different folks, imo
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18:49.49mjcAmadeo: I'm trying it out.
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18:50.27AmadeoXP does everything I want it to do...I hate some things about it, but I hate less about Windows than I do about Linux, and while I don't have extensive OSX experience, there's no doubt I'd find pros/cons there
18:50.45mjcAmadeo: xp is crap because of its window management interface and various other things
18:50.47AmadeoNo Vista in my horizon
18:50.49sbunevcairiel: it works
18:50.52sbuuntil you are in combat
18:51.02Amadeomjc: I mainly hate things like the registry and stuff
18:51.02sbuthen it is all screwed up
18:51.04mjctrying to see what MS thinks it is supposed to do to fix the shit they broke in XP.
18:51.07RoartindonI play WoW on my windows box, but I do all my work on my OSX laptop connected to a monitor, and run vmware if I need to
18:51.11sbuits something with in-combat :/
18:51.22mjcAmadeo: running everything as one giant window = fucking dumb
18:51.33mjcAmadeo: XP's window management is a joke
18:52.04AmadeoYou mean vs other window layouts?
18:52.13Roartindonif it's anything like the original disappearing castbar bug, it's probably because in combat causes a frame relayout
18:52.17Saint-Nwho runs xp with the default shell?
18:52.20Saint-Nduh
18:52.23nevcairielsbu: hmm in combat eh? didnt try that yet.
18:52.33mjcSaint-N: the OSX one does everything I need without having to dick with it.
18:52.43Saint-Nbb4win ;P
18:52.52Saint-Nyay vitual desktops
18:52.56mjcSaint-N: what a broken piece of shit
18:52.56AmadeoI like maximized windows
18:52.58Saint-Nand all in 1 click ;P
18:53.06Amadeolots of real estate
18:53.11mjcAmadeo: because your window management system is incompetent
18:53.13Saint-Nwell technically bbLean
18:53.13Roartindonnev: I haven't looked at the code, or seen the problem... but check into auraFrame in ABF.lua.. and see if that could be interfering/confusing the code in aura.lua
18:53.18mjcSaint-N: still broken
18:53.22Saint-Nand?
18:53.28Saint-Nit works fine for everything i do with it
18:53.35Amadeomjc: No, because I can only do one thing at a time as it is
18:53.44AmadeoI can't read two websites simultaneously
18:53.44Saint-Nif i wanted to run bsd i'd install freebsd, not use macos ;P
18:53.45Amadeoetc
18:53.59mjcAmadeo: how large is your monitor
18:54.04nevcairielsbu: haha i know why
18:54.16Amadeomjc: I'm not talking about my computers ability to, I'm talking about my physical ability to as a human
18:54.25Saint-Nnothing says complete crap like incompatibility with technology ;P and a single button mouse? in this day and age? wow, just wow
18:54.29mjcAmadeo: you must be disabled then
18:54.30nevcairielckknight: "Button" type frames cannot be created in combat. Aura relys on that.
18:54.44Amadeomjc: So you can hold a book in each hand, and read them both simultaneously?
18:54.56mjcAmadeo: no but I can read a book listen to music and talk on the phone at the same time.
18:55.00Saint-NAmadeo: of course he can, he uses a mac ;P
18:55.04Amadeorofl
18:55.27Heriomjc: how many of those require screen real-estate?
18:55.29ckknightnevcairiel: they can't?
18:55.31Amadeoif you're doing all 3 at the same time, you're not fully focused on anything
18:55.36ckknightI thought just secure buttons
18:55.41Heriomjc: do you nee to be looking at your phone, or your CD player?
18:55.49ckknightit seemed to work for me, is all
18:56.06AmadeoSo you're not retaining information from the book, you're vaguely listening to the music, and you're more focused on one thing like the phone call, or just kind of vague all around
18:56.15mjcI'm chatting on aim, six irc channels, and installing vista at the moment
18:56.23Saint-Nwow amazing!
18:56.26mjcall on the screen without having to minimize and maximize 85 million things.
18:56.30nevcairielckknight: you cannot Show/Hide them in combat either, thats why it wont work.
18:56.45ckknighthrm
18:56.47mjcAmadeo: nothing really requires my full attention quite like that
18:56.50Amadeomjc: That's 3 windows :P
18:56.53mjcAmadeo: reading only takes a moment or so
18:57.44mjcAmadeo: stickies, buddy list, websites, all visible without doing anything, and two keystrokes to get the app or site or w/e I want.
18:57.46MikmaRoartindon: well seems like i didn't get the text visible now
18:57.47Saint-Naccording to my computers, im on irc in 4 channels, running a webserver and email server, reading 3 different email boxes, on 6 different ims  have a vpn tunnel to another machine my antivirus is constantly scanning, im listening to pandora.com AND im compiling a new kernel
18:57.48nevcairielckknight: why are they "Button" anyway and not Frame?
18:57.50AmadeoI like the options for switching tasks in Linux/OSX, but I've never felt like I wanted or needed different window layouts
18:58.05ckknightnot sure, I copied agUF's style
18:58.06Saint-Nin xp
18:58.14Saint-Nand suse
18:58.25Saint-Nand i have no window management issues
18:58.48AmadeoIt's just a case of being comfortable with using your OS
18:58.59AmadeoPeople who primarly use OSX will think OSX is the only thing that can do what they want
18:59.03AmadeoSame for Windows and Linux
18:59.09Saint-Nand anyone who doesnt automatically revert all the gui settings in xp to the win2k version deserves what they get ;P
18:59.49ckknightAmadeo: meh, I'd prefer if OS X could run all the fancy games
18:59.55Saint-Nlaugh
18:59.58Saint-Nit can!
19:00.02Saint-Njust not well
19:00.05Saint-N;)
19:00.07Amadeockknight: I might also, or at least if it ran them all well
19:00.11ckknightthat means it can't
19:00.22mjcckknight: I just bootcamp for any game that I can't run under osx
19:00.25mjcwhich is like currently one
19:00.46Saint-Nso you have fake windwos under macos?
19:00.56mjcno, restart
19:00.59Saint-Nbecause you cant play the game you want in macos?
19:01.06Saint-Nand yet you complain about windows?
19:01.21CIA-1103pastamancer * r31871 10Grid/ (GridLocale-enUS.lua GridStatusAuras.lua):
19:01.21CIA-11Grid:
19:01.21CIA-11* GridStatusAuras - changed buff name -> status regexp to be more friendly to multibyte charsets.
19:01.27mjcit's a game, and I don't even own it
19:01.33Saint-Nand?
19:01.41mjcplayed it once just to test out bootcamp. works fine.
19:01.46Saint-Nuh huh
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19:02.14Saint-N;)
19:03.10CodayusHmmm, bomb threat on campus.  Charming.
19:03.34ckknighthttp://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/04/134208&from=rss
19:04.21AmadeoGood for the production video editors here
19:04.41Amadeockknight's up and coming! you need one!
19:05.10mjcckknight: I have the 2.66GHz quads.
19:05.20djsparkckknight: ok thnx, if I wrote a patch for fubar_panel to add a delay before the tooltips are displayed for plugins would you want it?
19:05.24ckknightfun
19:05.36AmadeoHah, someone's comparing Apple price gouging on that page
19:05.48AmadeoApple 16GB (8x2GB) FB-DIMM 667 $4499
19:05.49AmadeoNewegg 16GB (8x2GB) Kingston (KVR667D2D8F5/1G) FB-DIMM 667 $2392
19:05.54Chompersck, i keep getting weird green outlines with the battleshout icon in it, all streched
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19:06.11ckknightI blame gnomes
19:06.12Chompersit appears where the frames are
19:07.13mjc14 UAC prompts.
19:07.29Amadeomjc: It's the price you pay for saving all that money ;)
19:07.29chutwigi love UAC
19:07.41chutwigespecially that it flickers between aero glass and standard aero
19:07.45mjcAmadeo:  ?
19:07.51djsparker I mean in the fubar.lua not the panel one
19:08.04mjcchutwig: still trying to get all my drivers situated :P
19:08.15Amadeomjc: On your homemade PC :)
19:08.22mjcit's a mac pro.
19:08.25chutwigmjc: i lucked out with drivers
19:08.27chutwigon my stinkpad
19:08.37sbunevcairiel: hmm - but why did it work till you committed that aura stuff?
19:08.39AmadeoMS supports Vista on Macs?
19:08.44chutwigit's still pretty slow
19:09.00chutwigno, but boot camp 1.2 can run vista now
19:09.02mjcAmadeo: it's an intel reference board.
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19:09.19AmadeoWhich?
19:09.48AmadeoI know I wouldn't complain about OS X if it didn't work on my PC due to drivers :P
19:10.01nevcairielsbu: before it basicly only showed buffs and not debuffs .. because it was pretty limited
19:10.46chutwigthey still haven't gotten the key verification server running here at work
19:10.51chutwigso i can't activate it and it's annoying me
19:11.40AmadeoIf Apple is selling products claiming they can run Vista or OSX, they should probably ship them with hardware that both operating systems fully support..unless MS supports Macs now
19:11.54chutwigwhat are you talking about
19:12.34RoartindonAmadeo: all of the mac hardware is supported in vista/XP.. BootCamp comes with drivers
19:12.39Amadeochutwig: mjc's complaining about his Vista-Mac install
19:12.53AmadeoSo is it a BootCamp problem?
19:13.00RoartindonHave yo ugot the latest bootcamp beta?
19:13.02chutwigAmadeo: you realize that the mac pro is no more incompatible with vista than any random dell
19:13.12RoartindonThey released another bootcamp beta like.. 2 weeks ago with vista driver support
19:13.52mjcchutwig: wrong.
19:14.03mjcchutwig: it's an intel desktop board the same as the dell workstations with xeons in them.
19:14.12chutwigmjc: um, re-read what i said
19:14.21mjcchutwig: oh. right.
19:14.21mjcyeah.
19:14.28AmadeoI want to know what board it is, so I can look it up on Intel's site
19:14.33mjcmissed the 'no'
19:14.36Roartindonhttp://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/   "Boot Camp 1.2 beta includes:
19:14.36RoartindonSupport for Windows Vista (32-bit)"
19:14.46mjcit's a 3000-series chipset
19:14.52mjc5000-series SATA
19:14.52mjcetc.
19:15.33mjcRoartindon: my mac drivers CD is old and I'm lazy :P
19:15.56Amadeobut you blame Vista :P
19:16.11mjcfor all the UAC prompts? yes.
19:16.12mjcfor driver troubles? no.
19:16.20Antiarc|WorkIt's official: Wiimote + fishing in WoW = fun. :D
19:17.40AmadeoAntiarc|Work: Can you do cast motions? :P
19:17.49Antiarc|WorkYes.
19:17.51Amadeohaha
19:17.53mjclol
19:18.02Antiarc|Workhttp://blog.antiarc.net/2007/04/03/fishing-in-wow-with-the-wiimote/
19:18.06Antiarc|WorkVideo included! :V
19:18.40AmadeoNice monitor
19:19.02Antiarc|WorkDell 24" widescreen
19:19.04Antiarc|WorkI lubes it.
19:19.29Amadeo:)
19:20.03ravagernlgimme
19:20.15Heriomy brother has one of those =P
19:20.24RoartindonThe Dell 24"s are pretty nice :)
19:20.25HerioI have a 20 inch dell widescreen
19:20.27Herioyeah
19:20.34HerioI wish I sprung for the 24
19:20.36RoartindonUntil I got 2x30" :P
19:20.48Heriobut they accidentially sent me 2 of the 20.1 inchers
19:20.50Herioso...
19:20.54Antiarc|WorkSee, what happened is that the boss for 24s for all the devs here at work
19:20.59Saint-Nanti
19:21.05Saint-Nthere's something REALLY wrong with you ;P
19:21.06Antiarc|WorkAnd then I got so used to it that I couldn't use anything smaller
19:21.10Antiarc|WorkSo I had to get one for home.
19:21.17Antiarc|WorkSaint-N: I don't dispute that. :D
19:21.21Saint-Nheh
19:21.32Saint-Nyou should make an autioit bobber finder to go with it
19:21.40Saint-Nso all you'd have to do is cast and reel in ;P
19:21.45Antiarc|WorkThat'd violate the eula though.
19:21.54Saint-Nno it wouldnt ;P
19:21.54Antiarc|WorkWhich I want to avoid
19:22.07Antiarc|WorkPretty sure they don't want the computer doing input for you.
19:22.18Antiarc|WorkIt'd make warden suspicious, I'm sure.
19:22.24Saint-Nhehe technically you can do anything with your computer you wish
19:22.34Saint-Nand autoit is grey area ;P
19:22.57Antiarc|WorkWell, I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader then :D
19:22.58Saint-Nwarden doesnt care about it and if they did anything to stop autoit from functioning it would be another sony rootkit issue
19:23.00Saint-N;)
19:23.30Saint-Nive heard rumors of excellent fishbots for autoit
19:23.38Saint-Nheh
19:23.40Antiarc|WorkWarden doesn't interfere with anything on your computer. It just flags you for review if it thinks you're not using human input.
19:23.50Saint-Nthats just it
19:23.58Saint-Nautoit mimics human input ;P
19:24.06Saint-Nspecially with computer like fishing
19:24.18Stephmwand answering GMs?
19:24.19Saint-Ncomputer == something
19:24.30Saint-Ngms dont randomly whisper people
19:24.43Saint-Nand no-one has every reported a "fishing bot" outside of AV
19:24.57Saint-Nbecause its too hard to tell ;P
19:25.13Saint-Nmost people dont talk to people around them when fishing and LOTS of people just ignore tells in general
19:25.24Saint-Nand no-one thinks anything of it
19:25.25mjcautoit is a really bad way to write a fishing bot.
19:25.40Saint-Nand i suppose you could do better?
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19:25.51mjcautofish by jackalo
19:25.57mjc:P
19:26.07Saint-Nis a compiled autoit script ;P
19:26.10mjcno.
19:26.12mjcit isn't.
19:26.27Saint-Ngimme link then
19:27.08Saint-Nand source if you wrote it of course
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19:27.45lequtasHey guys
19:28.01lequtasis it possible to change the bar in Bartender 3 with a macro?
19:28.07mjcyes
19:28.29JoshBorkehola
19:28.39lequtasis there a API or something for the addon?
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19:28.52lequtascant find it on the website
19:32.49RoartindonI think you'll need to look into Bartender3's lua files
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19:34.16JoshBorkelequtas: what bar are you trying to change?
19:36.43JoshBorkelequtas: you can change bar 1 (if you have bar changing enabled) with the standard blizzard macro command /changeactionbar or something liket hat
19:40.33MikmaLOL! my ToT changed into a REALLY streched Psychic Scream
19:41.18RoartindonI think Nev is fixing that stuff atm :) not sure
19:41.24AmadeoMikma: haha
19:41.26nevcairielnah i am not
19:41.49Roartindonckk then?
19:41.54Mikmawell all the other auras are messed too :D
19:42.05AmadeoI'm guessing nobody is fixing it :P
19:42.20Mikmalol
19:42.22AmadeoBut that's just a guess!
19:42.34JoshBorkei blame [Ammo]
19:42.47lequtasfound out:)
19:42.58ravagernllol it looks like buffs and debuffs of my party members are anchored to target when they are hidden
19:43.05ravagernlI mean when i have filtering on
19:43.08lequtas./script ChangeActionBarPage(4);
19:43.14JoshBorkelequtas: don't do that
19:43.24lequtasnow why is that?
19:43.38ravagernlit only works out of combat
19:43.44lequtasit does?
19:43.45ravagernljust use /changeactionbarpage
19:43.45lequtas:(
19:43.56MikmaRoartindon: well, the castbar is Still messed up
19:43.59JoshBorkelequtas: /changeactionbar <num> and /swapactionbar <num1> <num2>
19:44.09RoartindonMikma: Still showing grey text?
19:44.10MikmaRoartindon: "Channeling       0.0" with bright white
19:44.17JoshBorkemikma:  owned
19:44.39Roartindonhmm.. let me see if I missed updating channeling code
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19:45.29ravagernlin pitbull, if I hide my party members aura's and reenable them again they get repositioned in the right spot
19:45.36RoartindonMikma: Just a standard channeled spell cast? or any specific tips?
19:45.36ravagernlelse their attached to my targets portrait
19:46.16lequtasnow can i change actionbar and buff myself in one macro?
19:46.28Roartindonah, I see it
19:46.53MikmaRoartindon: i melted the faces of mobs, and when my mind flay ended i was able to SW: Death the mob. then the text was stuck
19:47.00ravagernlthe portrait is bugged still too
19:47.10Roartindonmikma: Yeah, I think I see the problem
19:47.21Roartindonthe channel update routine isn't setting fadeout
19:47.28RoartindonI'll make a small change and let you try
19:48.29Mikmathere's alot of bugging with the auras too :D
19:48.29MikmaSS coming up
19:48.31CIA-1103roartindon * r31872 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: CastBar - Channeling past the end time now sets fadeOut variable
19:48.40lequtasis it possible to: Change actionbar, buff up and equip other items in one macro?
19:49.05lequtasi think it was possible before the 2.0 but..
19:49.18CIA-1103darkimakuni * r31873 10Visor2GUI/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua):
19:49.18CIA-11Visor2GUI
19:49.18CIA-11- Remove AceDebug-2.0
19:49.18CIA-11- Fix typo
19:49.51mjc40 UAC prompts.
19:50.34Gnarfozliking vista so far?
19:50.34Gnarfoz;D
19:50.36JoshBorkelequtas: /changeaction bar, /cast <spell>, /equip <item>  should all work in one macro (i think, could be wrong)
19:50.41deltronlol
19:50.45deltronjust disable UAC
19:50.48deltron:P
19:50.53NickenyfikenHmm anyone know if Primal Nether really drops on Normal?
19:50.57Gnarfozthen you could just as well use winxp
19:51.52Roartindonnick: Yes, but very very rarely
19:51.56GnarfozI installed vista on a free partition of 10gb that I planned to use for linux one day (sadly it's still not competition for windows as a desktop OS imho)
19:52.01vodrini've had it drop in normal.. and yeah very rarely
19:52.09deltronit's super rare
19:52.24JoshBorkeNickenyfiken: about 5%
19:52.27Gnarfozfirst: it almost completely filled that partition up (O_o what's up with that? my winxp is on a 2.5gb partition with 500mb left)
19:52.31JoshBorkei've had several drop in normal...
19:52.36deltronvista uses 12GB for install
19:52.43AmadeoGnarfoz: I agree, but the reason for me is because it takes too much work to get basic stuff to function properly...and gaming :(
19:52.45Gnarfozsecond: I stopped trying to use it when I found out there are no working sound drivers for my Audigy1 -.-
19:52.50deltronjust install ubuntu's feisty fawn :)
19:53.03GnarfozI want my EAX :D
19:53.15deltronnot gonna happen
19:53.20Gnarfozindeed
19:53.23Gnarfoznot even on vista anymore
19:53.24deltronthey completely changed sound with openal
19:53.35Gnarfozhuh?
19:53.39Gnarfozthat's just a workaround
19:53.40Gnarfoznot the reason
19:54.09mjcI've just decided to try it otu for shits and giggles.
19:54.19Gnarfozshit you've got a lot already, I guess
19:54.20Gnarfoz:D
19:54.23mjcbeen a lot of shit, not a lot of giggles so far.
19:54.25Amadeodeltron: Feisty works well, but it still does some quirky things, and took a lot of tweaking for my video to work right...and I still lose too much fps in WoW :(
19:54.28Gnarfozthought so :D
19:54.47deltronAmadeo: I've not tried to play wow yet, I have it on my old T41 right now
19:55.05AmadeoI just don't think you should have to edit files to get your hardware working on any OS
19:55.58deltronit's like that with most any OS
19:55.59AmadeoAs far as getting something to run that doesn't natively run, that's a different story
19:56.09JoshBorkei'm a firm believer if you're not using a magnet to do things you're being pampered
19:56.12deltronyou might not be editing files, but you are making changes by editing drivers for windows
19:56.47AmadeoI like to install a video driver, adjust the settings in the driver options, and have it work
19:56.52Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/auras.jpg
19:57.07Mikmai don't know who's working with PitBull auras or who fucked them up but i find that a cool SS :D
19:57.27AmadeoI don't like having to edit xorg.conf, look up my monitor scan frequencies, look up the driver tweaks to make it work right, edit in all the resolutions that my monitor supports, etc :P
19:57.29mjcAmadeo: vista still hasn't let my nvidia drivers start.
19:57.34JoshBorkeMikma: i love the name effect :-D
19:57.35mjcso um.
19:57.39mjcMS does it too.
19:57.40chutwigdunno what you're talking about amadeo
19:57.43Amadeomjc: I don't run Vista
19:57.48moonsorrowMikma: haha
19:57.51chutwigi like having to read the x startup log
19:57.56chutwigand then input my monitor's modeline manually
19:58.25mjcI remember having to do that back in the day.
19:58.38mjcI remember making a monitor catch fire witih the wrong value like a decade ago.
19:58.56MikmaJoshBorke: thanks ;)
19:58.57Amadeochutwig: My xorg.conf says Generic for everything on install
19:59.06AmadeoMouse buttons don't work, video doesn't work right, etc
19:59.16mjcAmadeo: what OS
19:59.20mjcer, distro
19:59.23AmadeoUbuntu
19:59.44Antiarc|WorkHey baby. Ubuntu go back to my place?
19:59.59AmadeoI can get them to work, but it takes more work than I want to have to do
20:00.04mjcwhat chipset ?
20:00.08mjcgraphics chipset.
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20:00.20AmadeoI forget the chipset number, but it's a 6600 GT
20:00.33*** join/#wowace chuckg (i=chuckg@66-237-5-116.starstream.net)
20:00.33AmadeoWhich it seems *everyone* has
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20:00.34Amadeohaha
20:00.37mjcprobably newer than the install disk.
20:00.57AmadeoIt's more a problem with my monitor
20:00.59mjcand if nvidia would open source hteir shit, you wouldn'thave to do that.
20:01.13AmadeoI have an old CRT
20:01.16mjcthe monitor should let you specify what resolution during setup
20:01.35*** join/#wowace Ozzwald (n=Ozzwald@unreachable.vpi.net)
20:01.39AmadeoIt never asked for anything like that
20:01.42mjcman.
20:01.46mjcnow vista won't even install
20:01.48mjcthat's fucking awesome.
20:02.16MikmaRoartindon: so, if you know the person who borked auras slap him
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20:03.55Ozzwaldis MobHealth the same as MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames (as in it's still MobHealth3)
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20:04.24Silviu-Ozzwald MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames  is if u have no unitframe addon u must have both of them
20:04.37Ozzwaldyeah, i use different unitframes
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20:04.38Silviu-if u have .. Hmm Perl/ag/pitbull etc .. then only mobhealth
20:04.42Ozzwaldkool
20:04.50Ozzwaldyeah i use Pitbull i just didn't know if it was legacy now
20:05.02Ozzwaldsince it didn't have the 3 and didn't appear updated very recently
20:05.15Silviu-Yes it was long time updated :)
20:05.23Silviu-And last update was a toc change :)
20:05.26Silviu-But it works
20:05.27Silviu-:))
20:05.40Ozzwaldwell, i'm starting to use pitbull, i haven't raided since I've been using it, I've only been using Pitbull on my alts but I think i'm going to change that soon
20:05.57Ozzwaldhas anyone raided with PitBull yet?
20:06.05Silviu-Yes me
20:06.08mjcWTB sorting for pitbull
20:06.10mjc;P
20:06.10Silviu-Was ok till today :)
20:06.19Ozzwaldwhy what happened?
20:06.26Silviu-Aura is lil messed up atm but they will repair
20:06.28Silviu-I hope ^^
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20:07.04Ozzwaldi like Pitbull a lot but i was not sure yet if I should raid with it
20:07.28mjcwhy wouldn't you
20:07.30mjcI love it for healing
20:07.55mjcdeltron: how do you like enh
20:08.01Silviu-I never use/need raidframes as a warlock i only use the party things so it`s more then ok for me :)
20:08.02Ozzwaldi just don't know how it would appear in a raid party so I didn't want to get in a run and it be all unorganized or alien
20:08.09Ozzwaldmjc what class do you play?
20:08.16mjcdruid/shaman
20:08.17kergothhehe, barfader is funny
20:08.21mjcand lock
20:08.25mjckergoth: barfader rapes face
20:08.26kergothenable smooth, target ana lready dead mob
20:08.32*** join/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@0x503e79d4.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
20:08.33kergothwatch the health smoothly go from full to none
20:08.37kergotheven though the mob was always dead
20:08.42mjclol
20:08.52JoshBorkelol
20:08.53hyperChipmunkit always works that way though
20:08.54Fisker-lol
20:09.00JoshBorkeany objections to me moving it to core?
20:09.10Fisker-something thought that black temple attunement was real considered how hard hyjal attunement was
20:09.11mjcnone here
20:09.23Fisker-Yeah hyjal attunement involves more than 12000 heroic instance runs
20:09.33hyperChipmunkor, at least, from the value of your previous target
20:09.34deltronlol
20:09.35MikmaFIX THE AURAS god damnit
20:09.39kergothdoes fade work with smooth? or are they mutually exclusive? how does it behave with both enabled?
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20:09.46Silviu-Woa Mikma got mad :)
20:09.56Mikmayes, with reason
20:10.01Silviu-i know :)
20:10.12ag`Silviu-: nah, he's always whining
20:10.13hyperChipmunkthey work together
20:10.20ravagernlthe party auras seem to be anchoring to the targetportrait
20:10.21Silviu-I had some problems at Maulgar/Gruul today did not see my debuffs and others :)
20:10.21CIA-1103darkimakuni * r31874 10Postal/Postal.toc:
20:10.21CIA-11Postal
20:10.22CIA-11- PostalDBPerChar is now saved per character, rather than for all characters (probably not backwards compatiable).
20:10.24deltronQQ
20:10.25hyperChipmunkand when they're both enabled, it's mad nifty
20:10.26Mikmalatest revision have only sucked ass and raped something that were nice and innocent like virgins
20:10.29_neuron_cladhaire, you around?
20:10.34*** part/#wowace Ozzwald (n=Ozzwald@unreachable.vpi.net)
20:10.36cladhaireyes
20:10.45ag`Mikma: QQ:D
20:10.45Fisker-Antiarc|Work i'm in a rave
20:10.49hyperChipmunkit does the fade, then slides out the fade portion
20:10.51_neuron_lightheaded rev 3 doesn't work right?
20:10.58cladhairehow so?
20:11.00Fisker-works fine here?
20:11.15_neuron_from the svn? hm, quests = nil for me after LoadQuestData
20:11.23cladhairequests is a local variable.
20:11.29Firedancermikma: agreed >_<
20:11.31cladhairedo you have the stubs?
20:11.32Silviu-JoshBorke ask ckk :)
20:11.34cladhairecause if you don't,it won't work.
20:11.50_neuron_that could be why, I just svn checkout'ed http://wow-lightheaded.googlecode.com/svn
20:11.54sbuyep, fix auras please :)
20:11.55Fisker-Yeah you need lightheaded_alliancedata and whatever
20:11.58cladhaireyeah that won't work
20:12.00cladhaire=)
20:12.03Fisker-get it from wowi.com
20:12.29Fisker-Just keep the svn copy though
20:12.35_neuron_lol mjc, yeah, know the feeling
20:12.42_neuron_doh moment
20:12.55_neuron_yeah, that'd be why it doesn't work
20:13.34cladhaireits not intuitive
20:13.41cladhairebut i needed the svn for history
20:13.41mjc_neuron_: trying to get a certain app to compile and its autostools is so fucked up I might as well type each fucking compile commandby hand
20:13.52cladhaireand there's no nice way to have them all there, unless they're checkoutable too
20:13.55cladhaireand i haveb't played much with it.
20:14.53Silviu-Good night :)
20:14.53mjcyou can check out each one clad
20:14.53cladhairemjc: yeah but that blows =)
20:14.53mjcnah
20:14.54kergothhyperChipmunk: ooh, you werent kidding, that is mad nfity
20:14.58deltronmjc: dude, look at this and weep: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Glockar
20:15.16mjcdoesn't load
20:15.26deltronhmm?
20:15.26CIA-1103neuron * r31875 10nQuestLog/ (events.lua modules/Comments.lua nQuestLog.toc): nQuestLog : Very lightly tested module to support Lightheaded
20:15.31mjctake out the #
20:15.37hyperChipmunkkergoth: >8D
20:15.51deltronarmory is so buggy
20:15.59mjceh.
20:16.02deltronstrange my spec is almost like his
20:16.05mjcI couldn't care really
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20:16.07winkillerstopped working completely in my FF
20:16.08mjcso's mine
20:16.15winkillerhave to fire up opera everytime
20:16.20hyperChipmunkoff to schoolz; better have that fader integrated by the time i get home!
20:16.28deltrondoesn't work in any browser in linux for me
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20:17.15Mikma_neuron_: yay :)
20:17.53kergothdeltron: heh, that glockar's talent build is exactly the same as mine, except i currently have 3 points in imp lightning shield, which he put in mental quickness
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20:18.14mjclightning shield sucks anus
20:18.21CIA-1103helium * r31876 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:
20:18.21CIA-11DewdropLib:
20:18.21CIA-11- updated zhTW locale
20:18.31deltronmjc: not for grinding
20:18.35mjcmana shield.
20:18.39deltronbest bang for your buck
20:18.43mjcI don't have a problem putting out dps
20:18.46deltronheh
20:18.46mjcI have a problem with mana
20:18.55mjcso water shieldftw.
20:18.56mjchttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Suramar&n=Yozomin
20:18.58deltronI'm still in some resto gear, so I have a large mana pool
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20:19.16kergothi tend to lightning shield until my mana pool hits about 50%, then i'll hit water shield when the lightning one is out
20:19.21ag`I need an idea
20:19.28ag`going to make an addon named Potato
20:19.31Tornhoofwhy weep?
20:19.32kergothbut i just got that 12 extra mana per water shield charge relic, so maybe i'll use that more
20:19.32ag`but what should it do?!?!?!?!?
20:19.43kergothnot that 12 is much, but it adds up
20:19.45ag`I just want to name something potato
20:19.45RoartindonAutomatically bridge aUF themes to PitBulls
20:19.57mjcew
20:20.07deltronag`: call the plugins to potato 'spuds'
20:20.13ag`Roartindon: hrm
20:20.17ag`hmm
20:20.34deltronhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Suramar&n=Diode
20:20.35deltronheh
20:20.50ag`doing an addon that makes it easier to make layouts for non-lua guys is a good idea
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20:21.16deltronooh how about a layout mod that scales with diff resolutions
20:21.18Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/auras2.jpg http://wow.reaktio.net/auras3.jpg http://wow.reaktio.net/auras4.jpg
20:21.22MikmaFIX IIIIIT!
20:21.30Amadeoag`: I agree
20:21.37ckknightwow, RMS has gotten fat.
20:21.40deltronso you can plop in a config file with mods and be happy
20:21.47ckknighthttp://fsfeurope.org/projects/gplv3/rms-20070401.jpeg
20:21.58ag`people can already do that deltron, in PitBull
20:22.00Amadeockknight: Who's that?
20:22.10ag`RMS?
20:22.11JoshBorkeckknight: any objections to me moving BarFader into core?
20:22.13deltronag`: eh? with multiple mods?
20:22.16ckknightRichard Michael Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation
20:22.17deltronag`: richard m. stallman
20:22.18Roartindonrms... man, stallman.. you gotta know :P
20:22.19Amadeooh
20:22.27ckknightJoshBorke: if it doesn't suck. I haven't determined that yet.
20:22.27AmadeoI thought it was the guy from the Geico commercials
20:22.27ag`deltron: yes I know :D
20:22.30AmadeoYou know, the caveman
20:22.32deltronckknight: if it makes you feel any better, he's still ugly
20:22.44ag`I was guessing on it being RMS
20:22.58kergothhuh, with only 4/5 vile poisons, at 67, my highest crit envenom still just passed up my highest crit evis, and thats with imp evis (need to respec)
20:23.24deltronkergoth: envenom is best used with an enhancement shaman
20:23.27Fisker-YOU WILL STAND AND FIGHT kergoth
20:23.28Amadeokergoth: Yeah, I've been hearing that...plus no armor mitigation
20:23.35kergothdeltron: ooh good point, stormstrike ftw
20:23.38deltronyeah
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20:23.46mjcdeltron: next respec might be this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hbZxV0dEMsIusoVbe
20:23.54Fisker-Even better point, poison cleansing totem
20:23.54Fisker-HEHE
20:23.59chuckgThat's why Lightning Capacitor is so good.
20:24.01Fisker-needs to be enemy though
20:24.03chuckgIt's nature damage!
20:24.11chuckgImagine if it was shadow.
20:24.12deltronmjc: totemic mastery noob
20:24.38mjcdeltron: I don't party much.
20:24.48deltronmjc: also, will you be using 2h weaps at all?
20:24.53mjcno.
20:24.53kergothif you dont party much, why imp weapon totems?
20:24.55kergothheh
20:25.06Tornhoofit's not even important for party
20:25.13ag`http://www.advisorbits.com/archives/images/cubist2RMS-thumb.jpg
20:25.13deltronI think I'm gonna fix my build a bit and remove 2h weaps
20:25.13Tornhoofsince the extra swings are nice
20:25.15Tornhoofnot the ap
20:25.22deltronI'm either DW or 1h/shield
20:25.23mjckergoth: had to sepnd the points to get odwn there.
20:25.38deltronI never use my 2h, except to still dps but not generate so much aggro :P
20:25.46mjcdeltron: I don't have a decent 2h
20:25.56mjcand have never seen one drop that helped my dps at all
20:25.58deltronmjc: lightning shield nooby
20:26.12deltronyou can get a decent one now
20:26.13kergothonly 3/5 unleashed rage?  you should get 5/5, the higher the AP, the more regen from shamanistic rage
20:26.21mjckergoth: thoguht I had 5/5
20:26.27mjcwhoops
20:26.34kergothmove those 2 from convection perhaps
20:26.49mjcyeah
20:26.54mjcI couldn't figure out why I had points missing.
20:26.55mjc:P
20:26.57kergothhehe
20:27.19kergothi went imp gw just cause i'll be doing some arena at 70
20:27.30Tornhoofgw in arena?
20:27.31Tornhoofnah
20:27.33kergothand its a handy escape.. i still want those damn old ass pvp boots that increase gw speed
20:27.38kergothi've never done arena, not that useful?
20:27.38deltronI might go to elem/resto once the windfury nurf is in effect
20:27.38mjchttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=uZxV0dE0sAuqoVbe
20:27.48Tornhoofnot for arena
20:27.54deltronthose points are better spent elsewhere
20:27.55Tornhoofyou don't get away
20:27.58kergothhehe
20:28.02kergothhm
20:28.11Tornhoofas for arena dw is crap anyway ;)
20:28.23deltronshaman in arena = resto!
20:28.25JoshBorkeckknight: ok ckknight, when you decide if barfader blows or not, feel free to move it :-D
20:28.34ckknightk
20:28.44mjcckknight: I love it
20:28.56Tornhoofdeep resto, like earthshield
20:28.58Antiarc|WorkResto shaman are impossible to kill with earthshield
20:29.07Tornhoofnah not anymore
20:29.08kergothi hate resto, resto is the reason i stopped playing my shaman main years ago, got pigeonholed into the healbot role in raids :\
20:29.20deltronwhen I'm resto i'm 61 points resto usually :)
20:29.25Antiarc|WorkWound poison makes it possible, but that'll be gone once they fix the poison bug
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20:29.29deltronkergoth: it's a LOT better now
20:29.42Tornhoofif you want pvp
20:29.44Tornhoofgo resto
20:31.41Tornhoofbtw
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20:31.52cncfanaticsyo ppl
20:32.13apejcicbarfader need some smart logic to determine if target of unit frame just got switched. Its kinda annoying when bars are jump all the time when warrior as tanking and switchimg mobs. Jus my humble opinoin :)
20:32.13JoshBorkecncfanatics: hola
20:32.28FryGuybarfader?
20:32.34apejcic*fak**ing types
20:32.51Tornhoofbtw mjc, you forgot 2 points in weapon mastery too ;)
20:32.51apejcicya barfader
20:33.02mjcTornhoof: fixed that in the last one I linked
20:33.05JoshBorkepart of me agrees, but then how do i handle when a paladin decides to cast LoH and loses all his mana?  what do i do then?  not show that fading and just change it?
20:33.12Tornhoofah ok
20:33.29RoartindonJosh: Do a cache of UnitName(unit)?
20:33.33RoartindonAnd only fade if it's the same?
20:33.39kergothhmm.. i much prefer enh, but maybe i'll respec at 70 just to be more effective in the arena and buy the arena enh gear
20:33.41apejcicwhat he said
20:33.43cncfanaticsgleh, i'm using 100% cpu and I dont even got a game running :(
20:33.54kergothmjc: what are you trying to bulid?
20:34.03mjcsomething I can't mention
20:34.27kergothheh
20:35.45ravagernland what if there are multiple mobs? Id say disable the bar fader complety
20:35.46JoshBorkenymbia: ping
20:35.51ravagernlfor target frame
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20:36.03cncfanatics~seen JJSheets
20:36.33purljjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 16h 50m 32s ago, saying: 'sounds kinky.'.
20:36.33apejcicravagern1; why?
20:37.15RoartindonTesting for UnitName(unit) changes will only remove fades when they're inappropriate at the moment. It won't get all of them, but it will get some.
20:38.02RoartindonIf there are multiple mobs - well then the choice is to not have it at all, or use that mechanic as a'best-the-mod-can-do'... most mob packs have different sorts of mobs anyway
20:38.37kergothwhats a good addon to  let you display multiple itemref tooltips for itemlinks?
20:38.40kergothi remember seeing af ew
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20:40.30Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/auras.jpg http://wow.reaktio.net/auras2.jpg http://wow.reaktio.net/auras3.jpg http://wow.reaktio.net/auras4.jpg FIX IT!
20:40.45ckknightNO U
20:41.05Mikmai didn't even bork it
20:41.11MikmaFIX IT!
20:41.32apejcic:)
20:42.22nevcairielMikma: that error only happens in combat, so dont get in combat!
20:42.42JoshBorkesounds like a solution to me
20:42.45JoshBorkebe peaceful and fish
20:42.51Roartindonworld of Carebarecraft
20:42.54AmadeoWith your Wiimote
20:43.08Mikmanevcairiel: ok! thanks
20:43.12cncfanaticssomeone find me something to do while compiling wine
20:43.13cncfanaticspretty please
20:43.21Mikma_neuron_: how is the support now supposed to work in nQuestLog? :D
20:43.29apejcicbtw: anyone using channeling spell here? i have the same problem with pitbull that i had with aguf. if u start channeling a spell right afterp prevoiusly starting one (happens if u are spamming buttons), castbar will fisplay failed instead of ignoring the second channeling request
20:43.37_neuron_Mikma, if you got the latest lightheaded it'll open when you open the details frame
20:43.45_neuron_latest means 0.3 from svn
20:43.46deltronMikma: heh is that really your name?
20:44.21apejcicdamn i need a light cant see the shit im typing
20:44.38Mikmadeltron: nope :D
20:44.44Mikmadeltron: i changed it from PitBull
20:44.50deltronpfft lies!
20:45.04Mikmaok then
20:45.48deltronheh
20:46.03mjchttp://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/free/MacPro/memory.html interesting.
20:46.27CyrezWhy was SVN replaced by a picture of a character from the Star Wars universe?
20:46.37deltronI want a mac :/
20:46.59Mikmadeltron: http://wow.reaktio.net/deltron.jpg
20:47.08deltronlol
20:47.29deltronMikma: you're still a NE priest! how's them starshards treatin' ya? ;)
20:47.32mjclol
20:47.45Mikmadeltron: not cool, haven't been using it in a long time
20:47.50Mikmadeltron: but, i have shadowmeld <3 :D
20:47.51deltronlol
20:48.06deltronand you run faster when you are dead
20:48.23Mikmayeah THAT'S a good thing, i'm faster to go back and die again and run again
20:48.33deltronmjc: christ, 16GB!
20:48.41mjcneh.
20:49.00mjckeep going, the neat part about how the memory controller works is further down
20:49.24deltronmeh, it's just a server type board
20:51.15ckknightI want a TiB of RAM
20:51.21ckknightjust because.
20:51.36JoshBorkeTi?
20:51.51ckknight1 TiB = 1024 GiB
20:52.04deltronhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/85.html <-- lol
20:52.06mjcdeltron: the board on core xeons works differently than on previous xeons and totally differently than opterons
20:52.07mjc:p
20:52.39JoshBorkethere's no I in tera...
20:52.51ckknightTebi
20:52.52mjclol deltra
20:52.58mjcdeltron.
20:53.03trh_http://www.shakes-and-fidget.com/index_saf.php?area=html&file=comics26.htm&gfx=white is also nice, it's in german, but i think you'll get the story just from looking at it :)
20:53.10ckknightwelcome to proper byte prefixes, JoshBorke
20:53.41deltrontrh_: lol
20:54.05mjchttp://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/53FB1GD4GBK/ looks like my next upgrade.
20:54.31deltronI'd like to get a macpro, but I like to game :P
20:54.45mjcerm..
20:54.47mjcboot camp ?
20:54.48CyrezI just want enough memory and CPU/GPU power to run every MMO I feel like playing on the same computer at the same time.
20:54.49deltronmeh
20:55.03AmadeoMac Pros have good video options yet?
20:55.05deltronno reason to make it a gaming box
20:55.12CyrezThen just stay logged in all the time, lol.
20:55.13ckknightJoshBorke: Byte, Kibibyte, Mebibyte, Gibibyte, Tebibyte, etc.
20:55.14deltronAmadeo: any pcie card
20:55.21ckknightB, KiB, MiB, GiB, TiB
20:55.24deltronckknight: nibble!
20:55.27JoshBorkeckknight: yea, i looked it up on wikipedia once you told me tebibyte
20:55.29ckknightit means 1024 instead of 1000
20:55.29mjcany PCIE card works fine in windows
20:55.36Mikmawhatever, fix the auras you borkers
20:55.36AmadeoWhat about in OSX?
20:55.37ckknightdeltron: nybble.
20:55.41JoshBorkemikma:  bite us
20:55.46mjcAmadeo: windows uses BIOS.
20:55.49Mikma10.5 is here soon!
20:55.49JoshBorkewell not me
20:56.00mjcyou have to have an EFI card for it to work right in OSX.
20:56.19AmadeoAre there 8800-type EFI cards?
20:56.21mjcdeltron: they released the quads today... $3997
20:56.26mjcAmadeo: not likely
20:56.28DynomHmm, buffs in Pitbull are a bit buggy still, is that known ?
20:56.28Amadeo:/
20:56.44mjcDynom: yes
20:56.50MikmaDynom: i've been screaming FIX IT! here for a while because of the auras
20:57.10Dynomk
20:57.12deltronMikma: fix it yerself :P
20:57.12JoshBorkeDynom: and subsequently ignored for all the yelling and screaming
20:57.24Mikmadeltron: i didn't bork it, JoshBorkeR did!
20:57.28deltronlol
20:57.44deltronmjc: I got a friend that works on nothing but mac hardware/servers
20:57.45Dynomwell didn't see it yet, didn't wanted to search my logs for an awnser :-]
20:57.48Mikma~borked
20:57.49purli heard borked is to have totally ****ed something up. Usually by doing something stupid. Specifically used to describe technology that is broken. The word is in reference to Robert Bork, a nominee to the Supreme Court who, despite being very qualified was not appointed to the court due to partisan reasons.
20:57.50mjcdeltron: me
20:57.52Dynomdeltron: poor him
20:57.54deltronheh
20:58.26deltronI can't convince work to get mac's in :(
20:58.35deltronwe're a huge IBM shop though
20:58.42Dynom-_-
20:58.52JoshBorkemikma:  someone else changed it
20:58.56Dynommac's aren't that interesting for most companies
20:58.57deltronmmmmmmmm thinkpads
20:59.03MikmaJoshBorke: yeah i know :/
20:59.09Mikma_neuron_: moo?
20:59.14deltronwe're a hospital, so not really for us heh
20:59.43_neuron_http://wow-lightheaded.googlecode.com/svn/trunk
20:59.51Dynomhttp://home.dynom.nl/~dynom/buffBug.jpg
21:00.08ckknightoh lol, http://www.darklegacycomics.com/86.html
21:00.15MikmaDynom: now that's bugged :D
21:00.22DynomMikma: yeah
21:00.39kergoththat aura bug is getting annoying indeed
21:00.41kergothhm
21:00.42JoshBorkelooks fine to me
21:00.44Ominousyea
21:00.59Ominoussome textures not getting recycled properly?
21:01.01AmadeoIt's a feature!
21:01.20apejcicbtw: guys can a alredy started channeling spell actually fail? (never happend to me)
21:01.25DynomOminous: if I move frames it icons and the background of the cast bar stay in place
21:01.26apejcic*an
21:01.35Mikmaoh neat!
21:01.44Mikmakergoth is getting annoyed, soon he will fix it :D
21:01.50Dynomand the castbar is rly reacting slow, but I don't think there is a way to speed that up?
21:01.55Dynomsince the blizzards one is also slow
21:02.09mjcwhat the hell
21:02.18mjchow do I eject a disk with the mouse in vista
21:02.37mjcnevermind, eject key actually worked that time
21:02.48Dynommjc: rmousebutton and eject ?
21:03.01Dynomon your player Imean, physically
21:03.01mjcDynom: no, actually
21:03.02RoartindonDynom.. if you're 14fps doing nothing, your castbar won't update more than 14 times a second in battle.. probably less.
21:03.10mjcDynom: no button
21:03.35mjcso apparently, vista's ACPI implementation is borked in the anus and won't initialize the video stuff unless I have between 2 and 4GB RAM
21:03.40DynomRoartindon: but it starts way longer then 1/14th of a second
21:03.44mjcthat's hot.
21:03.51DynomRoartindon: and my own castbar is way faster
21:04.00ckknightborked in the anus.
21:04.02ckknightsexy.
21:04.28mjcI don't care how fucking curious I am about vista's "features", I'm not taking RAM out to get the fucking thing to work.
21:04.37mjcand apparently there is no way to force PAE.
21:04.47mjcbye, vista.
21:04.50deltronlol
21:05.00deltroninstall linux problem solved
21:05.01Dynomoddly enough both castbars do end at the same time
21:05.03mjctotal time til reformat: 6 hours.
21:05.10mjcdeltron: nah rebooted to osx
21:05.24deltronman I wish I could run os x on my own hardware
21:05.34mjcget a real machine.
21:05.49deltronpfft
21:06.12Mikma_neuron_: ok another question. do i need the separate folders for lightheaded or should it work fine with the svn version? since i'm getting an error now with default questlog and nquestlog :D
21:06.33Dynomdeltron: vmware ftrw ^^
21:07.02RoartindonDynom: What's your ping?
21:07.03deltronheh
21:07.03Roartindonlatency to server
21:07.12deltronI'd get a mac if they didn't suck for gaming
21:07.13_neuron_Mikma, you need to grab 0.2 and get the LightHeaded_AllianceData or something from there
21:07.20_neuron_along with 0.3 Lightheaded directory from svn
21:07.21DynomRoartindon: around 100ms normally
21:07.21deltronand yes, that's with boot camp :P
21:07.26DynomRoartindon: can't see, logged out
21:07.35RoartindonWell, then it should take roughly 1/10th of a second for your castbar to appear
21:07.49Dynomit's more 0.5 0.6
21:08.00deltronI think os x would be fun to play around with
21:08.02Dynomand I recon it should be twice my latency?
21:08.13vhaarrckknight: Are you planning to implement raid grouping soon, or is it already in and I just missed it?
21:08.21ckknightplanning, soon
21:08.25RoartindonThe reported latency is round trip latency I believe.
21:08.30Dynomhmm
21:08.31deltronman this album is so awesome
21:08.34PProvostckknight, I'm back. sorry I missed your pong. :)
21:08.34ckknightI've been distracted by watching One Tree Hill
21:08.35Dynomwould make sense btw
21:08.51Dynom./lastlog++
21:08.59PProvostJust curious, you want me to checkin layouts into the PitBull folder or create a side-by-side PitBull_Layouts project?
21:09.02ckknightI'm like on episode 14/22 of the first season
21:09.08ckknightPProvost: into the main.
21:09.12PProvostWill do.
21:09.18PProvostBuu is done. Working on a few more.
21:09.19ckknightthere's a Layouts/ folder inside it
21:09.24ckknightcoolness
21:09.29PProvostYep. I saw that. Just didn't want to mess anything up.
21:09.50ckknightyea, I have no problem with people putting their own layouts into the main
21:09.50ckknightI mean, the more the better
21:09.50art3misdoes rapid cast guess the latency(like from the latency bar) and fill it in or must it be customized?
21:09.57ckknightthey're pretty lightweight, so it's not a big deal
21:09.58PProvostI also have some doc content brewing for making layouts. I'll throw it up in the wiki somewhere and we can discuss what I got right/wrong.
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21:10.13PProvostYeah, I was very happy with how easy it was once I figured out a few things.
21:10.14ckknightcool stuff
21:10.22ckknightPProvost: any ideas to make layouts better?
21:10.24PProvostThat scaling thing annoyed me but I've got a good solution in place now.
21:10.30art3misunit buttons ;P
21:10.43art3misoh that reminds me
21:10.47PProvostA way to set the x/y ratio when a new layout gets applied.
21:11.01art3mislayouts will be able to change the colour of health and stuff if you choose not to colour based on class right?
21:11.05ckknighthrm
21:11.27art3miscuz i didnt see any way to do so at present
21:11.44PProvostBuu for example is 3x4 (ish) while most unit frame layouts are more like 5x2
21:11.51Mikma_neuron_: seems to work fine
21:12.20ckknighthrm.
21:12.31ckknightPProvost: I had been thinking about that, really.
21:12.40PProvostAlso, it is interesting that if you want content to appear inside the border, you have to apply a 5px margin in your code.
21:12.47ckknightjust taking out the height thing, make it dependent on width and the layout setting
21:12.49_neuron_Mikma, I tested it for about 30 seconds, but it did work for me ;)
21:12.52PProvostSeems like that is something I shouldn't have to worry about.
21:13.09apejcicany1 objects if i commit this patch to pitbull: http://ace.pastey.net/10351-1lk4 (for the spell channeling thingy)
21:13.11PProvostIf I dock "TOP",0 it should be inside the frame and not 5px too high. :)
21:13.23ckknightyea, I had been thinking about that
21:13.27ckknightslightly complex.
21:13.46PProvostYeah. not surprised. :)
21:14.12PProvostUltimately, this is probably related to what I was asking for yesterday which is a logical coordinate system instead of a real coord system.
21:14.18Heriohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpsfDTbzKwM&mode=related&search=
21:14.52PProvostBut then you'd have to create all the viewport mapping cruft which might suck.
21:14.57ckknightPProvost: I don't know how that'd be accomplished. if you have ideas, I'd be happy to know
21:15.20ckknightviewport mapping cruft?
21:15.48PProvostMap a local viewport of 100x100 units to the real viewport of 236x145 pixels (or whatever).
21:15.54PProvostCoordinate transformation
21:17.33Roartindonart3mis: RapidCast works out the latency for each cast.
21:17.57ckknightI'm not sure how in Blizzard's system
21:18.02RoartindonThere is an adjustable setting called padding which is basically a latency jitter safety margin
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21:23.11deltronmjc: http://www.vmware.com/products/beta/fusion/
21:23.21mjchave it.
21:23.24mjcI prefer parallels atm.
21:23.35mjcI don't really use either though
21:23.50mjcit's a partial directx 8.1 impl.
21:23.51mjcnice idea.
21:23.56deltronyeah
21:24.01deltronthat's what's kinda neat
21:24.23mjcuseless though
21:24.49Amadeowow, why does Apple offer an 8 core system with such huge hardware bottlenecks elsewhere?
21:25.10mjcbottlenecks? like video?
21:25.20Amadeohard drive
21:25.20Amadeoalso
21:25.24deltronAmadeo: because they are attention whores?
21:25.26Amadeo7200 RPM drives?
21:25.38Amadeoon a 10,000+ computer with eight cores?
21:25.42Amadeoer, $
21:26.01mjcthey have FC and the xserve raid if you want data transfer speed
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21:26.08mjcthat said, these drives are not slouches anyways
21:26.19ckknightAmadeo: it's $4k I thought
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21:26.50CIA-1103aleksander * r31877 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua:
21:26.50CIA-11PitBull: CastBar
21:26.50CIA-11- Removed redundant channeling fail logic. Channeling twice won't return "Failed" message now.
21:27.00Amadeockknight: That's the processor alone, with base components...1GB RAM, shitty video, etc
21:27.12Gnarfozand that particular 'bottleneck' is neither huge nor did you point out any other bottleneck ^^
21:27.13Amadeoprocessors...I can't type today
21:27.17ravagernlckknight the smart style for watchdogs doesnt return dead or ghost or offline
21:27.21AmadeoGnarfoz: Video also
21:27.33ckknightravagernl: [statusgone:smartmissinghp]
21:27.56Gnarfozdo you want to use it as a gaming machine? or why do you need 'good video'
21:28.12AmadeoI'm analyzing the system for what I would imagine it would be used for...video production and editing
21:28.36AmadeoI don't know why someone would buy one for a gaming system
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21:28.47ravagernlah statusgone is a modifier to override it or something so you get back ghost?
21:28.52Gnarfozso, what video card would be of use for 'video editing'? not one with 3d acceleration :>
21:29.04ckknightravagernl: statusgone return Dead/Ghost/Offline or nil
21:29.11ckknightif nil is returned, it falls back to smartmissinghp
21:29.22AmadeoGnarfoz: Video graphics work usually requires hefty hardware
21:29.53ravagernlckknight can you update line 32 in health.lua then
21:30.04Gnarfoz3d graphics work, maybe
21:30.15ravagernlcant use color codes in dewdrop menus
21:30.17Amadeo3D and video go hand in hand these days :)
21:30.24AmadeoLook at the movie 300!
21:30.35Mikmawhat happened to svn
21:30.45shieldbAmadeo, by and large when you're buying something from apple you're more paying for the experience you get then the hardware
21:31.03AmadeoWallet emptying experience? I don't understand, lol
21:31.16CIA-1103ckknight * r31878 10PitBull/Health/Health.lua: PitBull-Health - make statusgone on the Smart style
21:31.38Gnarfozand I don't really think they had big use for 3d accelerated graphics card while rendering a movie that is raytraced anyway
21:31.43AmadeoDoes Apple bundle really good support or something?
21:32.02Gnarfozanyway, that's just my opinion - if you take it to the extreme, anything can require the best hardware, anyway
21:32.17shieldbAmadeo, I've had crappy experiences working with apple support in the past, but that may have been just bad luck
21:32.27AmadeoI wouldn't know, I'm just wondering
21:32.44AmadeoI haven't even started looking at Apple until they switched to Intel
21:32.51AmadeoSince before they were just severely overpriced
21:32.52ravagernlnice :)
21:33.38AmadeoI like the Macbook (Pro)'s and such mainly
21:33.44Garoun|Loupanack: is it possible to put the health numbers in the bar and my health percent outside the bar or doable without many changes via a layout?
21:34.03Gnarfozthey have the most usable desktop OS out there, that's the center point of the 'experience' shieldb talked about, I guess
21:34.16ckknightyou'll have to make changes to the layout
21:34.21shieldbmost usable is subjective, but yeah that was the point I was trying to make
21:34.28Garoun|Loupanaexample:  [HP     100000/100000] 100% where [] is the player frame health bar
21:34.29Gnarfozand very nice hardware design, parts innovative, parts ingenious :>
21:34.43ckknightGaroun|Loupana: yea, I understand.
21:34.47AmadeoWell, hardware design is subjective...case design? :)
21:34.59Gnarfozyeah, sorry
21:35.01Gnarfozthat's what I meant :)
21:35.05Garoun|Loupanak, I'll have to look into the layout formatting more
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21:35.31AmadeoApple is a hardware company, yet I think I like their software more
21:35.50ckknightGaroun|Loupana: well, layouts will change wrt fontstrings
21:35.56deltronaye
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21:37.54Garoun|Loupanackknight: wrt? and I'll gladly look into it more just been doing mindless stuff like rep farming thanks to go blind last night from a migraine :/ can't do anything that requires actual thought :P
21:38.06ckknightwith regard to
21:38.18Garoun|Loupanagotcha
21:39.02ckknightbut yea, basically, fontstrings will no longer be part of modules
21:39.39ckknightit'll be part of the layout
21:39.44ckknightthat's what I'm thinking, at least
21:39.45art3misyay
21:40.01NeoTronI wonder exactly how much they nerfed R&J. Seems absolutely trivial now
21:40.27art3misis lots an amount?
21:41.02NeoTronmostly curious what they nerfed - base damage done, effect of their self-buffs or what not
21:41.15RoartindonDamage dealt basically
21:41.20ckknightso if you have a layout that has the percentage on the right, it'll be part of the layout parts, not part of the health module
21:41.20RoartindonTons less damage from both R+J now
21:41.33ckknightwhich should make things a lot nicer
21:42.21NeoTronheck is it even necessary to dispell these days?
21:42.27NeoTrondoesn't seem like it's critical for sure
21:42.34RoartindonOnly thing necessary is to stop the heals :)
21:42.46RoartindonRomulo's daring is not nearly as dangerous as it used to be
21:43.01NeoTronprenerf not removing the buffs could result in MT dead in like 5 secs
21:43.01Roartindonand neither is J's thing.. (but if you  have a warlock, just set his pet to eat it anyway)
21:43.04shieldbNeoTron, Juliette's main damage spell / dot hits for 75% or less of what it used to both on the initial hit and the per tick amount
21:43.12NeoTronor julianne blasting out 9k dmg attacks on the raid every second.
21:43.27NeoTronshieldb: that's... ueah ok.
21:43.34NeoTronso it is in line with the other trivial opera events
21:43.39shieldbyeah
21:43.40Roartindonpretty much
21:43.41Sarozeh
21:43.42NeoTronI suspect that Oz is the hardest now
21:43.44Arrowmasteri dont remember julianne doing damage
21:43.50Sarozhow do you get pitbull to look like this
21:43.51NeoTronnot because it's hard but because there's lots going on
21:43.51Sarozhttp://gallery.kergoth.com/albums/wow/lineslineseverywhere.png
21:43.55RoartindonI think BBW is the hardest :P
21:44.00Arrowmastershe just stands there making weird noises
21:44.11RoartindonI play with an aus-group... and the latency makes it a bit harder to run :)
21:44.21NeoTronArrowmaster: heh. her attack spell, when buffed, did like 9k over 4sec dmg with 1 sec cast
21:44.36shieldboz has always been the easiest that I've seen as long as you have a good class balance
21:44.42Arrowmasterwe have mages
21:44.44NeoTronwe've only had oz once
21:44.46Arrowmastershe doesnt buff
21:44.49NeoTrondid it on the third try
21:44.56NeoTrononly had BBW twice and failed just once
21:45.03Sarozhttp://gallery.kergoth.com/albums/wow/lineslineseverywhere.png <<< Lines, how?
21:45.07NeoTronall other times have been R&J - like 5 non-nerfed kills
21:45.17NeoTronit was pain. now it's just free lote
21:45.27ckknightlol, Saroz
21:45.43Arrowmasterwhy would you do that to an interface?
21:45.47art3miskergoth is a master at mspaint!
21:45.54RoartindonSaroz.. you have that InteractLines thing going nuts :)
21:45.56art3misArrowmaster: that was actually an rdx mod too
21:46.07Saroznot my screenshot
21:46.09Sarozjust wondering
21:46.13Sarozis it a built in feature?
21:46.25RoartindonPitBull_InteractLines
21:46.45Sarozoh
21:46.56shieldbrename it to PitBull_Spirograph imo
21:47.01Stephmwbwahaha
21:47.08Sarozmake it work on all kinds of unit frames IMO
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21:47.51Mikmaplease fix the buffs
21:49.18RoartindonWell, I'm guessing InteractLines wasn't intended to be used with party targets, with everyone in the party spread out on the screen, and everyone targetting the same mob :)
21:49.25Mikmakergoth: what have you done to your nameplates? :D
21:49.57kergoththats shadowed's nameplates modifier addon
21:50.14shieldbhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6852
21:50.49Mikmathat's funky
21:51.49ckknightyou're funky
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21:52.48Mikmai can be funky if you fix the buffs
21:53.24kergothRoartindon: indeed, i learned that the hard way :)  wouldve been a lot less funky if i'd disabled interactlines on the party target frames.
21:53.55art3mishehe "i just added "sucks" above your head
21:55.18Phatrik[2007/04/04 23:12:09-45-x1]: PitBull-r31865\Aura\Aura.lua:320: attempt to index local 'buff' (a nil value)<in C code>: in function `TargetNearestEnemy'<string>:"TARGETNEARESTENEMY":2: in function <[string "TARGETNEARESTENEMY"]:1>
21:55.19Phatrik:/
21:57.04Garoun|LoupanaI like that method idea with teh fontstrings in the layout file ck
21:57.13ckknightyea.
21:57.17ckknightand the options and all
21:58.12Garoun|Loupanait'll certainly be more flexible
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21:59.08CIA-1103aleksander * r31879 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua:
21:59.08CIA-11PitBull: CastBar
21:59.09CIA-11- Reverted back to r31872
21:59.25ckknightwho is aleksander?
22:00.03Mikma<0012> <_neuron_> Mikma, I tested it for about 30 seconds, but it did work for me ;)
22:00.07Mikmai think
22:00.10Mikmawhoops :D
22:00.52Mikma<0013> <apejcic> any1 objects if i commit this patch to pitbull: http://ace.pastey.net/10351-1lk4 (for the spell channeling thingy)
22:01.01Mikmathere we go, correct line :P
22:01.15mjchmm.
22:01.17mjcdeltron: instance?
22:01.23deltronmjc: i'm heading home shortly
22:02.39sbueh Mikma - did you fix aura? :P
22:02.44Mikmasbu: no
22:02.50Mikmai can't code
22:02.54Mikmaeveryone knows that :D
22:04.03sbubut you did MSBT? :p
22:04.09sbu*hides*
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22:04.12nevcairiellol
22:04.24nevcairielfixing Aura wont be easy
22:04.37nevcairielthe problem is somewhere deep down due to the recycling logic
22:04.37Mikmayes, i coded MSBT! I DID IT! ok?
22:04.43sbuyep :p
22:04.53Mikmaor, was it Mikk...
22:04.54Mikmahmm!
22:04.57sbunono
22:05.03sbuhe stole your idea
22:05.39sbulike nevcairiel stole your bartender thing :p
22:06.14Mikmayes yes, the bastards
22:07.35renchapand ckknight your pitbull idea ?
22:07.43ckknightyes
22:10.27nevcairielhmm
22:10.41nevcairieli cant really think of a good way to solve the aura problem easily
22:11.09AmadeoOh well, PitBull had a good run ;)
22:11.30ChompersRIP pitbull
22:12.25ckknight...
22:12.26ckknightno
22:12.38ckknightdo you know the specific problem, nevcairiel?
22:12.53nevcairielyeah
22:13.04nevcairielframe creation of button objects wont work in combat
22:13.17nevcairielneither does show/hide
22:13.21ckknighthrm
22:13.23ckknightokay
22:13.34ckknightI'll do some research
22:14.58mjccan't
22:14.58nevcairielplus there are some other texture recycling bugs no one could really pin down yet .. :)
22:15.59ckknightthat's clearly the gnomes' fault and you know that.
22:17.15nevcairielisnt it always
22:17.17nevcairielanyway
22:17.19nevcairielneed sleep
22:17.24Funkeh`so revert it to yesterdays? :)
22:17.47Oridangnite all!
22:17.56Mikmadon't let others touch it except ckknight
22:17.58nevcairielonly because yesterdays version didnt really show any buffs/debuffs doesnt make it better
22:18.09Funkeh`actually
22:18.10AmadeoMikma: What about your wife!
22:18.11Funkeh`it worked fine
22:18.13nevcairielthe problem is the same
22:18.16Funkeh`showed buffs /debuffs
22:18.29nevcairielnah i tried reverting and got the same issues
22:18.32ckknightsomeone fucked up the auras.
22:18.34Funkeh`there was absolutely nothing wrong with auras yesterday
22:18.37ckknightand as sure as fuck wasn't me
22:18.39MikmaAmadeo: she doesn't like to touch ckknight
22:18.47Funkeh`was working perfect
22:19.27Mikmackknight: until today, they worked perfectly
22:19.41ckknightso who fucked it up?
22:19.44sbunevcairiel!
22:20.05Funkeh`no idea
22:20.13Funkeh`didn't keep track of what revision number i was using
22:20.26Stephmwwork backwards with the revisions until it starts working again...
22:20.30mjcblame mikma
22:20.32Ominousthe last revision i commited last night at about 2am uk time worked
22:20.36sbuhttp://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/b3742ef1c8d01032/15a30d127a14ac3a#15a30d127a14ac3a
22:20.38Mikmamjc: blame tuplad
22:20.42sbuthats the commit
22:20.43mjchim too
22:21.26nevcairielmy commit really only takes care of aura placement
22:21.33nevcairieland shouldnt break that stuff
22:21.37Mikmanevcairiel: FO'CHA!
22:21.42Mikmayou placed them REAL GOOD!
22:21.43Funkeh`well nev its aura placement thats the problem
22:21.54Funkeh`i have auras instead of health and mana bars ^^
22:21.58ckknightmy aura placement is totally fucked.
22:22.07Mikmackknight: no shit?
22:22.14mjc:D
22:22.24AmadeoWatch out for his hat!
22:22.27Mikmackknight: http://wow.reaktio.net/auras.jpg http://wow.reaktio.net/auras2.jpg http://wow.reaktio.net/auras3.jpg http://wow.reaktio.net/auras4.jpg
22:22.40ckknightI already saw
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22:25.35JJSheets~seen Nargiddley
22:26.01purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 13h 26m 58s ago, saying: 'Elkano, that should do it'.
22:26.54CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31880 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull-Aura: reverting to 31815 - maybe someone else has more luck with that features :P - or i can figure it out and place it in again, at least the weirdness is hopefully gone now.
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22:27.53nevcairielif someone wants to play around with it .. svn doesnt forget the revisions :P
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22:29.12klamneed these gone    2 dell xps m1710 350 for one 500 for 2, 1 apple macbook black for 600 MSN Solutions1981@hotmail.com or aim: solutions1981
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22:32.34Amadeohahaha
22:32.39Amadeosomeone owned him
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22:38.16Mikma_neuron_: problem. sometimes the lightheaded-window doesn't go away when closing the detailframe
22:38.34_neuron_Mikma, I'll have a quick look at that later
22:39.21Mikma_neuron_: ok. :) opening some quest and closing it again will put the window away
22:40.32CIA-1103funkydude * r31881 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/BigWigs_GruulAssist.lua: BigWigs_GruulAssist: extend sound description
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22:42.26Mikmanevcairiel: thanks for the revert, now they are working again like they should
22:43.37Funkeh``yeah
22:43.39Funkeh``works good
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22:54.00cncfanaticshello ppl
22:54.04cncfanaticsping, JJSheets
22:54.29JJSheetssup?
22:54.38JJSheetsI'm close to a release btw.
22:55.03Gnarfozrelease it all
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22:56.05cncfanaticsJJSheets, didn't even start yet
22:56.07cncfanaticslost my code :(
22:56.22JJSheetslol
22:56.27JJSheetspoor bastard.
22:56.30cncfanaticsheh
22:56.36cncfanaticsreinstalling WoW atm
22:56.40cncfanaticsand dl'ing patches
22:57.14JJSheetspoor poor bastard.  :p  I had to do that a while back, but thankfully I never lost any code.  :)
22:58.29cncfanaticslosing code sucks
22:58.34cncfanaticsdamn demoralizing to start over :p
22:58.48JJSheetsyes it does.  svn ftw :)
22:58.49Mikmacncfanatics: you lost alot and what?
22:58.59Funkeh`ckknight: ping
22:59.00cncfanaticsMikma, my latest FB2 code
22:59.18cncfanaticshad rewriten most of the core, and rearanged lots of code
22:59.37Mikmaok. was it any good or did it suck?
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22:59.55Chompershow many hours do you think you lost?
23:00.14cncfanaticsabout 6 or so
23:00.19cncfanaticsnot too bad
23:00.39cncfanaticshad bigger losses before heh
23:00.48cncfanatics"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." lovely quote :)
23:00.50cncfanaticswho made it ?
23:00.58Mikmayo mamma
23:01.02JJSheetslol
23:02.02cncfanaticsWeinberg's Second Law
23:02.03cncfanatics:)
23:03.27cncfanaticshmmmm
23:03.39cncfanaticswe're the 5th of april and this month's bandwith is already more then half used
23:03.43cncfanaticsI better go easy
23:04.22JJSheetswhose bandwidth?  wowace?
23:04.29cncfanaticsmy own bandwith
23:04.31cncfanaticsI only got 30gigs a month :(
23:04.41JJSheetsyeesh...
23:04.56JJSheetsI couldn't tolerate having a bandwidth per month limit.  :)
23:05.15cncfanaticsI can't either
23:05.20cncfanaticsbut all ISPs in belgium do
23:05.20NeoTroncncfanatics: flipside is that 6 hrs spent working might not necessary mean 6 hours to do the job again
23:05.31Chomperstrue
23:05.31cncfanaticsNeoTron, should go faster
23:05.44cncfanaticshopefully
23:05.45Chomperscould probably get that done in half the time ,if not faster
23:05.59cncfanaticsor I could, while i'm at it, rethink how I did it and make sure its the best way
23:06.21pastamancerchances are, you'll re-write it better now that you've had time to fit it all together in your head
23:06.21cncfanaticsI better do :)
23:06.24cncfanaticsI need a good way for addons to plug into flexbar
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23:10.43cncfanaticsgod, why is the wow install so slow
23:11.07JJSheetsto make playing the game after a dramatic crash that much sexier.
23:11.23GnarfozI never quite understood that myself oO
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23:11.41Gnarfozare they using heavy compression like uharc or something? oO
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23:12.22cncfanaticsI Doubt they are
23:12.33cncfanaticsthe WoW folder size is the same as the 5 mpq's combined pretty much
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23:13.40AmadeoIf you choose Class Text > Player Classes Only in PitBull, it still shows the Race
23:13.41cncfanatics"Program complexity grows until it exceeds the capabilities of the programmer who must maintain it. " lol, so true :)
23:14.12Mikma_neuron_: goooooooooood support. loving it
23:14.32_neuron_Mikma, sloooooow support :P
23:14.57Mikma_neuron_: slow in your ass. you're supporting something that clad haven't even released to public ;)
23:15.09_neuron_oh yeah, true, still, it's not my usual development pace :P
23:15.31Mikmaenjoying the game every now and then ain't illegal :D
23:15.39_neuron_hehe
23:16.45cncfanaticsI shld enjoy the game less & program more tbh :p
23:17.47Chompersgo fury!
23:18.06_neuron_really not sure, I haven't played that char since retail, no idea how it'll be to level
23:18.08Sarozprotection
23:18.10_neuron_will be leveling with a paladin though
23:18.14Chompershahaa
23:18.17Sarozalmost all warriors are prot!
23:18.21Chompersi will...tank you to death
23:18.22Mikma_neuron_: well duh! i'm leveling my priest 60-70 with nQuestLog too so i will be nagging about bugs ;)
23:18.23Saroz(it's true)
23:18.28MikmaIF there is some
23:18.31Chompersgot, farming mats at prot sucks
23:18.38Sarozherbalism
23:18.50Chompersso glad i went arms, means im not picked for kara much, but its more fun
23:18.56Sarozfarming mobs with a holy prot pala is not fun either
23:18.57Sarozdoing it now
23:19.01SarozOOM after 2 mobs
23:19.07Chompersdamn
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23:19.28Sarozaldor rep zzz
23:20.01cncfanaticsSaroz, get seal of light on ? .-.-
23:20.06cncfanaticsu shldnt even run oom at all :p
23:20.08Sarozwisdom
23:20.10Sarozyou nub
23:20.11Mikmacncfanatics: will there be any cool features in FB2?
23:20.23cncfanaticsMikma, lots :)
23:20.29Mikmacncfanatics: i mean like alt/ctrl/shift swapping and hide on state
23:20.32_neuron_what's FB2?
23:20.37cncfanaticsFlexBar2
23:20.42_neuron_ahh
23:20.43cncfanaticsMikma, I still accept feature requests :p
23:20.48Chompersi thought it was fubar2
23:20.49cncfanaticsjust mail em to me or PM em to me
23:20.50Chompers:<
23:21.05cncfanaticsI got a few features planned that no other actionbar mods got though
23:21.12cncfanaticsI just need to start coding seriously somehow
23:21.23Mikmai'm still in need of a perfect actionbar :P
23:21.36Mikmamy own is pretty damn good but it has annoying little bug in it
23:22.11cncfanaticsMikma, what class are you ?
23:22.23Mikmacncfanatics: priest
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23:22.37cncfanaticsMikma, ur gonna love my downranking shortcuts
23:22.44cncfanaticsthat i'm planning to implement :p
23:22.46cladhaire_neuron_, Mikma: I was home ill all day, I'm sorry I didnt get to release a new LH/TT
23:22.56CIA-1103funkydude * r31882 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/BigWigs_GruulAssist.lua: BigWigs_GruulAssist: use self:Print instead
23:23.33Mikmacladhaire: it's ok, _neuron_ told me the address of your svn's and i'm using the version from there now (well not TT but will try it later)
23:24.11Mikmacncfanatics: what is that btw?
23:24.21Mikmacncfanatics: "use lower if not enough mana"?
23:24.46cncfanaticsMikma, cant do that
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23:24.54cncfanaticsbut will be able to configure a key for automatic downranking
23:24.55Mikmacncfanatics: then what, explain please :D
23:25.10cncfanaticsas example: ctrl + spell will automaticly cast whatever rank u want
23:25.17cncfanaticsand just spell will cast the full rank
23:25.54Mikmacncfanatics: i don't need that :D i need swapping the pages with ctrl/alt/shift and hide/show bars on different situations
23:26.10cncfanaticswill be possible ofc
23:26.21cncfanaticstbh, everything that can be done with attributes i'll try to support it
23:26.34cncfanaticsMikma, hiding showing buttons is only possible on stance changes
23:26.56cncfanaticsat least in combat
23:27.29Firedancerok so I know what LH is but wha's TT :p
23:27.40HjalteOkay, something is seriously wrong with Pitbull and eh.. Auras? http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_040507_005925.jpg
23:27.55[Ammo]don't use beta software :p
23:28.05MikmaFiredancer: TomTom, www.wowinterface.com ->
23:28.08Firedanceri thought nev reverted to the old aura setup
23:28.14Firedancermikma: thanks
23:28.51MikmaFiredancer: and nev did revert
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23:31.09HjalteI'm not complaining, just enlightening ;)
23:31.17NeoTronhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070302073736822 is an interesting read
23:31.26NeoTronalthough annoying to read due to formatting and such
23:31.49NeoTronI was deposed and get nightmare flashbacks from that experience when reading that document :P
23:33.25SarozCraftList is nice
23:33.25Saroz:p
23:36.37FiredancerHjalte: using the latest PB with nev's reversion my debuffs are working again. might want to check it out
23:37.22HjalteUsing r31879 atm
23:37.41JJSheetsuse 31880
23:38.31Amadeodamn Hjalte, you need some WoW with that UI!
23:38.40HjalteHaha :)
23:38.49HjalteI like informations
23:40.30HjalteIt just looks bad because of the bugs ;)
23:40.30Mikmacncfanatics: so, you're saying that hiding/showing buttons with targetchange ain't possible?
23:40.30cncfanaticsMikma, no idea about specific cases tbh
23:40.30cncfanaticsit is possible on a very limited set of events
23:40.30JJSheetsas long as it's done with attributes it's legal, Mikma
23:40.44Mikmacncfanatics: see! JJSheets knows stuff!
23:40.51OminousJJSheets: are you in a FB2 mood?
23:41.09JJSheetsem... no... I'm in an InfiniBar mood...
23:41.11cncfanaticsJJSheets, got a clue if its possible on targetchange ?
23:41.29cncfanaticsOminous, me & JJSheets seperated paths, both maintaining our own actionbar addon now
23:41.39Ominousah
23:42.18JJSheetscncfanatics, not sure.  standard bars as I understand don't do that... but I think there are other header types that can be used to add that.  this is your SWAG of the day.
23:42.18Ominouswell cncfanatics: are you still examing?
23:42.18NightHawkTheSanesomeone should make a bar mod named Cinnabar.
23:42.59cncfanaticsOminous, i'm on holiday now
23:43.02cncfanaticsi'm just being lazy
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23:43.14JJSheetsMurcury Sulfide?  sounds poisonous...
23:43.55Ominouscncfanatics: well the stance switching often dosent happen visually but does happen with actions
23:44.06JJSheetss/Murcury/Mercury/
23:44.33cncfanaticsOminous, i'm not very experienced with attributes yet tbh
23:44.39cncfanaticsshld read thru the whole file when I feel like it
23:44.59JJSheetsstance and attribute info is the epitome of shitty documentation imho.
23:45.37cncfanaticsI agree
23:45.42cncfanaticswld rather manage everything myself tbh
23:46.21JJSheetsand we have botmods to thank for attributes.  :)
23:46.29cncfanatics:p
23:46.36cncfanaticsI rly shld learn to use em by myself decently too
23:46.47cncfanaticsWoW is updated :o
23:46.51cncfanaticslets see if it runs now
23:46.54JJSheetslol
23:47.21cncfanaticsoh noes, it changed my resolution -.-
23:52.27JJSheetsI'm off for dinner... ya'll have fun.
23:55.45kergothmeh, moveframes is fucking up the alwaysupframe
23:55.54kergothnow its there, but invisible, and catching my mouseclicks
23:56.05kergothi keep trying to drag my camera view and hitting it instead
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