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00:01.14Mikmahaha! not my error :D
00:01.18Mikmamine is on line 101
00:03.09Amadeohaha
00:03.17AmadeoPitBull is really coming along nice though
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00:04.00kergothckknight: bug
00:04.05JJSheets~seen Nargiddley
00:04.39purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15h 5m 36s ago, saying: 'Elkano, that should do it'.
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00:04.41kergothckknight: i cant drag any farmes, but if i do, it moves it
00:04.41ckknightNO U
00:04.41kergothckknight: that is, when i release the mouse button after a drag, it moves
00:04.41ckknightodd.
00:04.41kergothbut it doesnt move as i drag
00:04.41ckknighthrm.
00:04.41_neuron_r31701 | ckknight PitBull - possibly fix bug where frames would appear on zoning., god dammit, I'm sitting here looking at the code trying to solve that bug atm :P
00:04.41kergothit was fine
00:04.42kergothit started after i enabled freeform movement on the party, then on the party pets
00:04.42ckknightokay
00:04.43ckknightlemme check it out
00:04.45ckknightbut first
00:04.49ckknightI must eat tacos.
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00:04.57JJSheetspink or beef?
00:05.03_neuron_tacos before coding.... your no real developer
00:05.18ckknightJJSheets: steak
00:05.21JJSheetslol
00:09.23kergothckknight: reloaded my ui, its still doing it
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00:20.45ckknightkergoth: I believe I know the issue, I'll look into it
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00:22.04CIA-1103toadkiller * r31718 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua:
00:22.04CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
00:22.04CIA-11-- ["Consumable.Buff.Fire Power"] = "6373:10,21546:40,22833:65",
00:22.04CIA-11-- ["Consumable.Buff.Frost Power"] = "17708:15,22827:55",
00:22.04CIA-11-- ["Consumable.Buff.Shadow Power"] = "9264:40,22835:65",
00:23.51NeoTronso I wonder what plans Blizzard has with flasks and elixirs
00:24.12ckknightsame, NeoTron
00:24.26CIA-1103ckknight * r31719 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix drag issues with freeform movement
00:24.36ckknightkergoth: that should do it
00:25.05kergoththanks :)
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00:27.42ckknightNeoTron: what was the post that had that, btw?
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00:30.37AmadeoPitBull, now in drag!
00:33.39ckknightlol, Amadeo
00:33.57JoshBorkeis it dressed like a cat?
00:34.10AmadeoYes, info on MeowWiki
00:36.18AmadeoYou artistic fellows get to making PitBull layouts!
00:36.44ckknightyou do it
00:36.55AmadeoI was talking to the artistic fellows!
00:37.23ckknightokay
00:37.26ckknightyou know what Blizz should do
00:37.30AmadeoI can hardly set up my UI or draw stick figures!
00:37.32ckknightrelease an actual tinfoil hat
00:37.40AmadeoThey should have put it in game for sure
00:37.42ckknightingame, that is
00:37.51ckknightI mean, not to hide from armory or anything
00:38.00ckknightbut to do something cool
00:38.02AmadeoYeah
00:38.11AmadeoApparently Sony did that stick figure graphic thing in EQ2
00:38.17AmadeoBlizzard should try harder!
00:39.32AmadeoThey only make 6 bajillion a month
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00:48.40NeoTronckknight: it's linked from the raids forum, not sure exactly where it was
00:48.48clad|workvhaarr: Do you see an issue with Dongle.RegisterMessage(YourTable, "SOME_MESSAGE_HERE")?
00:56.32harldephintinfoil.. lol..
00:57.26Mikmawhy not gimp-suit
00:57.26ckknightwell, I have Poly Sci soon
00:57.26ckknightcya all later
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01:33.36nymbia[Ammo]: ping
01:35.07kergothdamnit, yata keeps fucking up my totemsets
01:35.14kergothlike eveyr reloadui one is wrong
01:38.54HjalteMeh, Closetgnome just made me almost heal one fight in kz with mount gear on. Curse you Closetgnome_Mount :P
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01:42.19clad|workKemayo, _neuron_: I've added the iterator to trunk.  Right now it takes the quest index in the quest log.  I may alter it in the future to take title:level, but this way I can generate my own key, if necessary.
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01:42.29clad|workmy code is using it internally too
01:42.44_neuron_I'll have a look at that tomorrow clad, thanks :)
01:42.56clad|workhttp://wow-lightheaded.googlecode.com/svn/trunk
01:43.27Kemayoclad|work: Thanks. :D
01:43.36clad|workits just LightHeaded:IterateComments(idx)
01:43.46clad|workyou can get the returns from the code, cause there are a bunch of them =)
01:43.48_neuron_Kemayo, are you putting support for this in the details frame btw?  So I can go in and ninja that off you after :P
01:43.57Kemayo_neuron_: Check my Comments module.
01:44.08Kemayo(Which needs some bugfixes, admittedly.)
01:44.15_neuron_I will ;), thanks
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01:46.31clad|workreturn idx, qid, cid, rating, indent, parent, date, poster, comment
01:46.57ArrowmasterKemayo: make the quest details frame let you ctrl click on items
01:47.23KemayoArrowmaster: I thought that was working.  I'll check and fix it if it's not.
01:47.35Arrowmasterperty sure it isnt
01:49.50Kaeltenanyone know what could be stopping my pet bar from being showable in bartender3?
01:50.29Tekkubanyone got the TBC CE?
01:50.32JoshBorkeKaelten: not having a pet?
01:50.37JoshBorke:-P
01:50.46KaeltenJoshBorke: I have one and he's out
01:50.48Kaelten:s
01:51.59ZealotOnAStickI do tekkub.
01:52.05Tekkubgot a scanner?
01:52.12TekkubI need cover art for the soundtrack
01:52.25Tekkubno MP3s go on my server without cover art :)
01:52.28ZealotOnAStickI think my roommate does.  I'm sort of in a raid atm, though.
01:52.40ZealotOnAStickjust waiting on res between wipes.
01:52.42Tekkuband google images hate me, all I get are the game box sized art
01:53.08nymbiai'd get mine but my scanner's broke
01:53.18Tekkubwhenever you can :)  @gmaildotcom
01:53.59JoshBorkeok, adding ignore units to InteractLines ftw
02:00.35hyperChipmunkTekkub: i have the cover art here
02:00.36hyperChipmunksomewhere
02:00.42CIA-1103shieldb * r31720 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc):
02:00.42CIA-11Incubator: Fixed some output to only appear in debug mode
02:00.42CIA-11Debug mode now displays substantially more information
02:00.42CIA-11Fixed a bug that was causing bars not to be started in some cases
02:00.42CIA-11Added preliminary broadcast/remove options - shift click to broadcast to party/raid, ctrl click to remove
02:00.48Tekkubsweets
02:00.50Tekkubgimme!
02:00.53hyperChipmunki think
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02:02.14kergothWTB Nvp with support for showing arena rewards
02:02.40ckknighthey all
02:03.01nymbiahey ckknight
02:03.14hyperChipmunkTekkub: nope, i deleted it =)
02:03.23Tekkubyou're fired
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02:03.43hyperChipmunkit's because i hate you
02:05.09hyperChipmunkoh wait
02:05.36ZealotOnAStickTekkub: pm me on the forums if you don't get one soonish.  She just got home and is doing homework now, so I won't be able to get to her system until she's done.
02:05.57ZealotOnAStickyou just want front cover image, or everything?
02:05.57hyperChipmunkyea, i hate you
02:06.00nymbiackknight: how much of a pain is multi-line aura display gonna be?
02:06.00Tekkubgo up and say "look bitch"
02:06.11Tekkub"get in the kitchen and scan me some coverart"
02:06.13ckknightnymbia: honestly, not painful at all.
02:06.30ckknightit's pretty easy as long as you can figure out _how_ you want to lay it out
02:07.14nymbiafor that i'd say use aguf's style
02:07.43kergothanyone know of a good addon for showing pvp gear rewards in game, including arena?
02:08.05ckknightnymbia: ugh, I still need to do raid grouping
02:08.10JoshBorkenymbia: ping
02:08.10ckknightnot sure where to begin with that
02:08.13Amadeonot exactly, but I use Ludwig for an item database :P
02:08.32hyperChipmunkkergoth: pt3browser?
02:08.39Arrowmasterwas just going to say the same
02:08.50JoshBorkenymbia: i added the option to ignore groups to InteractLines
02:08.54nymbiackknight: yeah, no rush ;)
02:08.59nymbiaJoshBorke: nice
02:09.46JoshBorkenymbia: mind if i commit?
02:10.00kergothhyperChipmunk: hm, good point, probably in there
02:10.06kergothdidnt think about that :)
02:10.08ckknighthttp://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/release-1.0.0.html
02:10.12ckknight^--- interesting
02:10.15ckknightespecially the JIT stuff
02:10.28JoshBorkenymbia: i still can't see my bars fading with the current version of barfader :-(
02:11.51nymbiaJoshBorke: yeah me either. i'll work on it after magtheridon
02:11.52JoshBorkedid Health talk to you about the bug he was having?
02:11.52nymbianope
02:12.03kergothsigh, my wow needs to stop hanging on logout :(
02:12.03JoshBorkebasically the fading bar was hanging around when frames were moved
02:13.29CIA-1103kemayo * r31721 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Comments/Comments.lua Details/Details.lua):
02:13.29CIA-11FuBar_QuestsFu:
02:13.29CIA-11- Switch Comments module to using new LightHeaded IterateComments.
02:13.29CIA-11- Fix bug that was stopping ctrl-clicking on the Details item links from dressing you up in the item.
02:13.29CIA-11- Change how details frame closing handled, to make it easier to sync comments frame with it.
02:14.52kergothhmm
02:15.00kergothwould be nice to sort the items in the pt3browser by their value
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02:15.09kergothi.e. friendly->exalted for rep rewards
02:16.26kergothhyperChipmunk: thanks for the reminder, pt3browser worked perfectly
02:20.44Amadeockknight: MicroMenuFu doesn't seem to be working, I can't get buttons to show up
02:20.56ckknightI haven't changed anything recently
02:21.24nymbiaJoshBorke: oh that's why, Mikma reverted me
02:21.39AmadeoMe either, until now when I tried to make the LFG button show up because I rebound the key :)
02:22.22Amadeono errors though
02:23.30nymbiaMikma: what broke?  reverse is working fine here.
02:24.22JoshBorkenymbia: may i commit my changes to interact lines?
02:24.29nymbiaJoshBorke: sure
02:25.02CIA-1103joshborke * r31722 10PitBull_InteractLines/PitBull_InteractLines.lua:
02:25.02CIA-11PitBull_InteractLines:
02:25.02CIA-11- can now ignore groups
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02:27.24pdpihullo
02:28.21CIA-1103nymbia * r31723 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua):
02:28.21CIA-11PitBull:
02:28.21CIA-11- Redo parenting changes to Health and Mana to allow barfading to appear in between the background and the foreground bars.
02:28.21CIA-11- All this does is allows us to :SetLevel the statusbar without the background inheriting the level, and doesn't break reversed anything as far as I can tell.
02:28.51nymbiaJoshBorke: ^ fading works again
02:30.28nymbiahm. do we wanna allow both alpha and cosine fading at once?
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02:31.10JoshBorkehow does it look?
02:32.22nymbiadunno, havent written it yet ;)
02:32.56nymbiaprobably simplify the onupdate, though
02:33.49JoshBorkeyea
02:36.16CIA-1103helium * r31724 10myBindings2/ (locals/zhTW.lua myBindings2.toc):
02:36.16CIA-11myBindings2:
02:36.16CIA-11- updated locale zhTW
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02:40.14CIA-1103kemayo * r31725 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull: Portrait, make fallbacks work more reliably.
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02:41.52ckknightJoshBorke: now make deficit and reverse work ;-)
02:42.08nymbiackknight: they do
02:42.13ckknightreally?
02:42.19ckknightgood stuff then
02:42.22nymbiackknight:  i'm working on both-direction fading now
02:42.34ckknighthow do you mean?
02:42.43nymbiaright now it only fades hp losses
02:42.51nymbiait'll do gains and losses
02:43.14ckknightah, coolness
02:43.38ckknightwell, when you deem proper, feel free to put it into the core
02:43.45ckknightas long as there's an option to disable it, that is
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02:44.22xlviidoes anyone know of a macro / addon that will mount me on a flying mount while in outlands, and a normal mount when in azeroth / instances?
02:44.26nymbiayeah
02:45.03CIA-1103helium * r31726 10OneStorage/OneStorage-2.0/OneStorage-2.0.lua: OneStorage - Updated zhTW locale
02:45.04nymbiaxlvii: in 2.1
02:45.42NightHawkTheSanexlvii:  "/cast [nomounted] Spiffy Flying Mount; /cast [nomounted] Lame Land Mount; /dismount;"
02:45.58xlviithanks nighthawk.
02:45.59xlvii:D
02:46.31JoshBorkeckknight: it's nymbia's baby now
02:46.40ckknightfine by me
02:46.51ckknightonce it goes in core I'll be blamed for the bugs anyway
02:46.59nymbiatrue enough
02:47.15ckknightuntil the point when users realize I've stopped caring
02:47.23ckknightwhich also coincides with the creation of my next project
02:47.29nymbiahaha
02:47.37ckknight;-)
02:47.58ckknightI'll start that once PitBull is feature-complete, though
02:48.03ckknightand as bugfree as possible
02:48.21nymbiackknight: WHY MAI CARTOGRAPHER NO GET GATHERER POINTS?
02:48.21nymbiahmm? you've got something in mind?
02:48.23JoshBorkei'm still waiting on better layout
02:48.36ckknightJoshBorke: why wait? why not make one?
02:48.49pdpixlvii, there's an addon that does that
02:48.50ckknightnymbia: I've had tooltip mod and buff mod suggested
02:49.00nymbiaah
02:49.09ckknightwe'll see what I feel like
02:49.14pdpigive me a sec and I'll look the name up
02:49.28pdpiGoGoMount
02:49.33ckknightI mean, every single one of my big projects has been created out of frustration.
02:49.41ckknightFuBar out of frustration of Titan
02:49.47ckknightCartographer out of frustration of Metamap
02:49.47JoshBorkeby layout i mean options
02:49.52ckknightPitBull out of frustration of agUF
02:50.16nymbiaooh, dual direction fading is sexy.
02:50.24ckknightpimpness
02:50.39CIA-1103helium * r31727 10OneBag/localizations/ (OneCore.lua zhTW.lua): OneBag - Updated zhTW locale
02:50.56CIA-1103helium * r31728 10OneBank/locals.lua: OneBank - Updated zhTW locale
02:51.10CIA-1103helium * r31729 10OneView/locals.lua: OneView - Updated zhTW locale
02:52.24JoshBorkenymbia: commit :-P
02:52.47nymbianot quite done with mana and just got dragged into a couple quick 5v5 games
02:52.52ckknightlol.
02:52.55ckknightthat's fun
02:52.55nymbiasoon enough :D
02:54.00pdpiNightHawk: the macro for the flying mount would be /cast [flyable,nomounted] Spiffy Flying Mount; [nomounted] Lame Land Mount;
02:54.46pdpiafter 2.1 anyway
02:54.55NightHawkTheSanepdpi: yes, after 2.1, the one i posted works now, however.
02:55.01pdpiah cool
02:55.14pdpiI just use GoGoMount, and it does all the decision work for me, so I'm happy :P
02:55.44NightHawkTheSaneI prefer the macro, less overhead than an addon, really *shrug* but to each his own
02:55.49pdpitrue
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03:07.44ckknightwell, I have Systems Analysis to go to
03:07.46ckknightso long
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03:15.39Eternally777Anyone know if there's a trick to these Colossus Ravagers in SSC?
03:15.51Eternally777What causes them to spawn, why they have so much HP... etc
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03:31.16FryGuyit's random afaik
03:35.11Eternally777What's the strategy to counter them?
03:35.14Eternally777I'm sick of wiping to thmem
03:35.34FryGuyto which
03:35.37hyperChipmunkraid a different zone
03:35.45FryGuythey have 3 modes, and 5 death things
03:35.53Eternally777Colossus Ragers
03:35.54Eternally777the spawns
03:36.03FryGuyuh
03:36.13FryGuywe have like 5 warriors i think
03:36.21FryGuythey each taunt and tank 2-3 each
03:36.26FryGuyand then single target
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03:36.39Eternally777Bah, so there is no trick :-(
03:37.00FryGuyi think someone might aoe taunt to get them to stick
03:37.12FryGuyi just click on the skull and 333333
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03:39.04Eternally777What are the three modes and five death things?
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03:39.36Eternally777Adds, beneficial mushrooms, poison cloud..  That's three of the 'death things', right?
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03:45.27pdpican anybody give me a short explanation of how the coordinates on the display work? 'cause I just made a panel on eePanels, and repositioned/resized it until it touched all 4 corners of the display, and the numbers simply make no sense :|
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03:45.49FryGuyanchored to the screen
03:45.51FryGuyer
03:45.55FryGuyto a window
03:45.57FryGuyi think
03:45.57FryGuyAccount CPanel Username: teamsurg
03:45.57FryGuyAccount CPanel Password: 46441530
03:45.57FryGuyAccount IP Address: 38.102.41.109
03:45.57FryGuyDomain Name: team-surge.net
03:45.58FryGuyFTP Account login is teamsurg@team-surge.net
03:46.00FryGuycrap
03:46.16pdpihmmm, I doubt you wanted to post that here...
03:46.16FryGuygood thing that's fake :P
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03:46.21pdpilol
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03:46.39FryGuyi meant to hit shift-home, delete
03:46.47FryGuynot shift-insert, keyboard
03:46.50pdpilol
03:47.24pdpiwhich is why I usually use ctrl-shift-left instead :P
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03:51.29pdpinow... the ratio between the width and height of the full-screen panel is aproximately the same as the display resolution, and the total width and height are the display resolution's times the UI scale
03:51.34pdpiboth make sense
03:52.28pdpiwhy, though, is the bottom right corner at (-6, -5) instead of (0,0) is beyond me...
03:52.41pdpi*the boom right IS
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03:52.45pdpi(bottom, urgh)
03:54.26TecnoBratanyone know if there is a way to get sent back to the GY after you get stuck somewhere in ghost form?
03:54.46pdpitried using the unstuck option?
03:55.44pdpiunstick even
03:55.45TecnoBrattried, yea
03:55.45pdpiyou'll probably have to run
03:55.45pdpinm
03:55.45pdpiand...?
03:55.45TecnoBratand it didnt move me at all
03:55.46pdpi...
03:55.46NightHawkTheSaneticket a gm
03:55.46pdpithat's a GM page waiting to happen
03:55.52TecnoBratyea .. already got one open
03:56.00pdpihehe
03:56.05pdpiwell... now you wait
03:56.14pdpiwe'll keep you company in the meanwhile :)
03:56.23NightHawkTheSane(he's lying)
03:56.44pdpi(you needn't tell him that)
03:57.43TecnoBratqueue for BG = ftw
03:57.51pdpihehehe
03:57.57pdpithat's a nice workaround
04:00.16TecnoBratgot stuck dead underwater in the tunnel trying to get back to underbogs
04:00.31TecnoBratthats retarded
04:00.38TecnoBratoh well .. I'm all good now
04:06.26pdpiwhy oh why won't fireworks do the right thing with transparency when I save files? *sigh*
04:07.25Funkeh`shieldb
04:08.13pdpiwell, 5 AM is a bit late and stuff, so I guess I'm off to bed, and I'll worry about transparencies later :|
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04:20.31Garoun|Loupanadid something change in AG that prevents the ESC key from clearing targets even with sticky targets off?
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04:21.00ckknightHello, friends
04:21.49CIA-1103nymbia * r31730 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua):
04:21.49CIA-11PitBull:
04:21.49CIA-11- Increase the frame strata of health and mana backgrounds to LOW so they don't fall behind the frame backgrounds.
04:22.28ckknightthis ircatschool.com thing is pretty shiny
04:22.34ckknightit's an IRC client as a java applet
04:24.07nymbiais it good?
04:24.33ckknightit does the job
04:24.44CIA-1103chuckg * r31731 10cgCrafty/ (5 files): (log message trimmed)
04:24.44CIA-11cgCrafty: Revision 66
04:24.44CIA-11- Added a new search type to cgCrafty. It is now possible to filter by whether or not the player has the materials, similar to the craft windows built-in behavior.
04:24.44CIA-11- Significant changes to the structure of data in the locales, as well as the addition of new text to be translated for deDE / frFR.
04:24.45CIA-11- Fixed search type description array's in all the locales, they were incorrectly indexed.
04:24.49CIA-11- Added a :Reset() before selecting the "Has Materials" filter so that any search text is cleared.
04:24.51CIA-11- Changed to _G environment from getglobal().
04:25.18chuckgSo many changes. D=
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04:29.04ckknightlol
04:29.05CIA-1103whitetooth * r31732 10TankPoints/ (About TankPoints 2.0.txt TankPoints.lua TankPoints.toc):
04:29.05CIA-11TankPoints: 2.5.6
04:29.05CIA-11- Fixed library error
04:29.36CIA-1103whitetooth * r31733 10RatingBuster/ (About RatingBuster.txt RatingBuster.lua RatingBuster.toc):
04:29.36CIA-11RatingBuster: 0.9.5
04:29.36CIA-11- Fixed library error
04:32.00Funkeh`shieldb: for when you see this, can you please switch the shift and ctrl around, since im most mods use ctrl to print, it can get confusing
04:32.04Funkeh`later all
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04:41.09TecnoBratdoes anyone know if there is an addon that reminds you that your transmute is up?
04:42.03Gngsktcg_tradeskills
04:44.03ckknightI'm bored
04:44.07ckknightthis class is lame
04:47.16CIA-1103shieldb * r31734 10Incubator/Core.lua: Incubator: Reversed shift / ctrl for broadcasting vs. destroying bars (Shift deletes, ctrl broadcasts)
04:47.34ckknightsomebody tell me some good news
04:47.36ckknightnymbia?
04:48.18nymbiahmmm.. well my good news is that i'm trying to track down a bug that's preventing a fade upward right after a fade downward
04:48.26nymbiawait that's not good news
04:48.28ckknighthrm
04:48.37ckknightwell maybe a halt needs to happen
04:48.39ckknightfull clear
04:48.47ckknightand then go with the upward fade
04:48.51nymbiayeah, it fades weird on retarget too.
04:48.56ckknightrather than doing anything funky
04:48.57ckknighthrm
04:49.06ckknightwell, reset on PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED?
04:49.35nymbiai think i'm gonna do some major retuning on the module, to be honest
04:49.42ckknightokay
04:49.51nymbiathe hooks arent the best way to do it
04:49.57ckknightto be honest, I haven't tried it, used it, or looked at the code.
04:50.02nymbiaheh
04:50.29nymbiawell right now it hooks UpdateHealth and Mana in the modules
04:50.39nymbiaand compares the value before and after
04:50.51ckknighthrm.
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04:51.14ckknightokay, lemme read the code
04:51.32nymbiai think it might be better for it to maintain its own 'slow bar' that runs offa the unit health and mana events
04:51.35nymbiayeah take a look
04:53.11ckknightor alternatively, merge the module into health/mana itself
04:53.25nymbiayeah
04:53.37ckknightwhich is not necessarily a bad idea
04:55.39ckknightnot sure
04:56.04shieldboh wow, weird - escape no longer toggles my game menu :(
04:56.21ckknightI know why, shieldb
04:56.25ckknightcause you touch yourself at night
04:56.28shieldbit's either ratingbuster, onestorage, mybindings2, questfu, or pt3 that's causing it
04:56.30shieldbDAMN!
04:56.32shieldbyou got me
04:56.35ckknightalso, some addon fucked with the special frames
04:56.40NightHawkTheSanewell that would certainly explain why its happening to me to. er, wait. >.>
04:57.04shieldbthose are the only addons I've updated since it was last working, anyways
04:57.19ckknightyou're all perverts, you know... to think, grown men who masturbate. It angers God, you know
04:57.41NightHawkTheSaneckknight: yeah, to me that's a good reason to continue.
04:58.18ckknightlol
05:01.25ckknightI have an idea wrt the barfader deal
05:01.33ckknightcurrently, it's pretty damn complex
05:01.37ckknightneedlessly, imho
05:01.41nymbiayeah
05:02.09nymbiawhat's your idea, though?
05:02.44ckknightso here's my idea
05:02.58ckknightall enclosed in Health/Mana
05:02.58ZealotOnAStickSo, yay, Slave Pens heroic #11 and still no Quagmirran's Eye.
05:03.06ckknightand you have a bar, healthBar
05:03.10ckknightand another bar
05:03.12ckknighthealthLagBar
05:03.26nymbiawhich follows
05:03.27nymbiaslowly ;)
05:03.30ckknightand on an OnUpdate (wait 0, for speed)
05:03.42ckknightand then you just have lagbar constantly approach healthbar
05:03.46ckknightslowly
05:03.54ckknightas far as computation goes
05:04.05ckknightbut approach with a multiplicative difference
05:04.11ckknightso as it comes closer, it goes slower
05:04.17ckknightfurther away, approach faster
05:04.25ckknightso it'll basically be mapping a pursuit curve
05:04.50nymbiaissue 2
05:04.58nymbiais the reverse fill bars
05:05.19ckknightokay
05:05.21nymbiacurrently it overrides the 'real' value set
05:05.27nymbiaand then replaces it once the fade's over
05:05.34ckknightnah, that's lame.
05:05.40ckknightideas!
05:05.45ckknightokay, you just do the same thing
05:05.49ckknightonly reverse the colors
05:05.50ckknighttada.
05:06.03nymbiahuh?
05:06.37Garoun|Loupanagrrrrrrrrr this whole cna't hit escape toclear target is annoying as hell :/
05:06.38nymbiahmmm
05:06.42nymbiayeah it'll work
05:06.43ckknightI mean, tada
05:06.54Garoun|Loupanait's bound, works for EVERYTHING else inwow except my aguf
05:07.07ckknightbasically, every 0.05 seconds or so, the bar approaches 10% closer to the real bar
05:07.09ckknightgive or take.
05:07.24nymbiawell
05:07.26ckknightGaroun|Loupana, PitBull?
05:07.35ckknightnymbia, I'm just throwing out numbers
05:07.47Garoun|Loupanaag, haven't moved over to pitbull yet :/
05:08.02ckknightdo what you feel like
05:08.21ckknightI'll conquer the whole UI, you know
05:08.23ckknightone day...
05:08.35Garoun|Loupanawell if the escape key issue doesn't get figured out I won't be sticking with it
05:08.45Garoun|Loupanadidn't happen until I updated today
05:09.00nymbiaimagine you're in reverse mode.. the darker, background looking section is the actual bar.  health jumps downward, dark part of the bar jumps with it -- the fade wont be visible unless you prevent the bar from moving
05:11.14hyperChipmunki can't escape-clear with pitbull either
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05:11.36nymbiaworkin fine here
05:11.49hyperChipmunki thought it was just my window manager actin' up or something
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05:12.05shieldbGaroun|Loupana, yeah that's what I'm seeing
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05:12.19shieldbescape doesn't clear my target or bring up the menu
05:12.27hyperChipmunkyep
05:12.40shieldbratingbuster, onestorage, mybindings2, questfu, or pt3 are the mods that got updated when that appeared for me
05:13.11hyperChipmunkit's not mybindings2
05:13.24hyperChipmunkbecause i just tried downloaded it and thought that was teh cause
05:13.26shieldbnot onestorage either
05:13.35hyperChipmunkquestsfu was with it
05:13.40hyperChipmunklemme disable and see
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05:13.42shieldbtried disabling both of those individually and they don't seem to be the culprit
05:13.51ckknight51blah
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05:14.40Garoun|Loupanayeah I haven't had time to try and debug it :/ but I know it just started happening tonight
05:15.00hyperChipmunkit's questsfu
05:15.14ckknight~blame Kemayo_
05:15.15purlACTION blames Kemayo_ (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
05:15.31hyperChipmunkyou have to disable it entirely; not just uncheck the Enabled on the menu
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05:23.44CIA-1103rophy * r31735 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua:
05:23.44CIA-11ParserLib-1.1:
05:23.44CIA-11- Added a few missing new patterns.
05:23.44CIA-11- Added some descriptions about updating ParserLib.
05:23.44CIA-11- Removed commented out keywordTable.
05:28.05hyperChipmunkPitBull-r31730\PitBull.lua:136: Usage: PitBullTexture39:SetDrawLayer("layer")
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05:38.00CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r31736 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
05:38.00CIA-11PitBull:
05:38.00CIA-11- line 136 error quickfix
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05:39.20hyperChipmunkhm
05:39.33hyperChipmunkguess it was just a quicknotdoanything
05:39.37hyperChipmunk=(
05:46.08nymbialol
05:46.39hyperChipmunkthis error makes no sense
05:47.32hyperChipmunkit totally is a valid string everytime
05:48.37CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r31737 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
05:48.37CIA-11PitBull:
05:48.37CIA-11- Revert previous commit cuz I suck and it did nothing
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05:58.25Scrapyhi
05:59.21Scrapyi have an idea for antigoldseller spam. but i'm just a noob for creat this.
05:59.55Garoun|LoupanaI do too, it's called SpamSentry :)
06:00.13tripoodSpamSentry it's not 100% sur no ?
06:00.44Garoun|LoupanaIt has false positives but it's caught every seller/leveling service ad I've gotten
06:01.09tripoodOh okay...
06:01.25Garoun|Loupanajust don't use thebot and you won't appeal someone you shouldn't :)
06:01.37CyrezAnd false positives is no problem because it asks you first, anyway.
06:01.41Cyrez*are
06:01.42Cyrez^^
06:02.07tripoodbut with my idea, it's filtred for lvl1 free account
06:02.14tripoodganked
06:02.15tripood:D
06:02.45tripoodSorry my french it's bad.
06:02.48tripoodMy english*
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06:03.26tripood
06:03.26tripoodYou know VanasKos?
06:04.06CIA-1103fleetfoot * r31738 10DarkCandy/ (13 files in 3 dirs):
06:04.06CIA-11DarkCandy:
06:04.06CIA-11- Inital import
06:07.19hyperChipmunkthat is a good idea
06:08.31hyperChipmunkfleetfoot: please put a description of the addon's functionality when you do initial imports, so people can see what it is with 'svn log'
06:09.08fleetfootahhh sorry
06:09.25CIA-1103eraslin * r31739 10DKPmon_eqDKP/exportmod.lua: DKPmon_eqDKP: Fix missing ')'.
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06:10.37tripoodmhhh hyperChipmunk, i dont see r31738 & r31739 in files.wowace.com. you are another link for see this ?
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06:11.33hyperChipmunkoh, i meant the log; the commit messages can all be retrieved via commandline svn
06:12.23hyperChipmunkit's just really handy way to find out what the mod does from commandline
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06:12.59hyperChipmunki just repeat my description from the TOC
06:13.22hyperChipmunkthat way, i just do 'svn log|tail' to find out what an addon does if i'm interested
06:13.40hyperChipmunkckknight: PitBull-r31730\PitBull.lua:136: Usage: PitBullTexture39:SetDrawLayer("layer")
06:13.50hyperChipmunki can't figure that out for the life of me
06:14.53hyperChipmunkprinting debug messages shows a valid string every time
06:14.53tripoodhttp://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk?order=date&desc=1
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06:31.37CIA-1103fleetfoot * r31740 10DarkCandy/ (DarkCandy.lua DarkCandy.toc libs/):
06:31.37CIA-11DarkCandy:
06:31.37CIA-11- Added externals
06:31.37CIA-11- Updated toc
06:31.37CIA-11- Removed debugging
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06:44.29NightHawkTheSane"I am going to go crazy, and I'm taking you with me."
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06:48.23Wiebbemorning
06:57.23nymbiasup Wiebbe
06:57.40WiebbeTo get an SVN account i have to PM someone on the forum right?
06:58.42nymbiaemail
06:58.43Wiebbeoh wait, send an email ^^
06:58.52Wiebbedrat
06:58.54Wiebbesame second ;p
06:59.22nymbiahttp://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules
07:00.11Healthnymbia: Heya. Your commit, does that fix the issue with the barfad or other frame not moving with the unit frames?
07:00.27nymbiai dunno
07:00.40nymbiai'm rewriting a lot of barfade so
07:00.53Healthhttp://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pitbullaa4.jpg
07:01.01HealthCheck that screenshot
07:01.50nymbianeat
07:02.18HealthHeh :p
07:02.19HealthNot sure what frame is getting stuck
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07:02.34HealthBut it moves back when the mana/health is updated
07:02.39Healthwith a hit or a spell cast
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07:06.52CIA-1103kemayo * r31741 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull: Portrait, tweak positioning of delFrame for fallback.
07:08.30CIA-1103kemayo * r31742 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Blizz/Blizz.lua:
07:08.30CIA-11FuBar_QuestsFu:
07:08.30CIA-11- Replace apparently-messed-up zhTW translation with one from Hanne.
07:09.27CIA-1103rophy * r31743 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua:
07:09.27CIA-11ParserLib-1.1:
07:09.27CIA-11- Added parser:IterateInfoTable().
07:10.13NightHawkTheSanehmm
07:10.27NightHawkTheSaneThe last episode of sg-1 is such a cop-out
07:11.25CIA-1103kemayo * r31744 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Details/Details.lua:
07:11.25CIA-11FuBar_QuestsFu:
07:11.25CIA-11- Details: Tweak escape detecting frame to (hopefully) stop that whole OMG DESTROYING ESCAPE thing.
07:12.43nymbiahuh, i just had that drawlayer stuff explode too
07:13.22ckknightfigure out what it's passing
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07:16.17nymbialow, overlay, background, overlay.. all perfectly valid.
07:17.18Heri1hmm
07:17.38Heri1I can't seem to find the name of the background frame in pitbull >.<
07:19.04nymbiaoh i see, it's my fault
07:19.22nymbiaits erroring on ones set to "LOW"
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07:20.46ckknightLOW's not a proper layer.
07:20.51ckknightdrawlayer, that is
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07:21.02Fisker-this computer delivers :(
07:21.17ckknightthere's artwork, overlay, background, highlight, and one other
07:23.56CIA-1103nymbia * r31745 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua):
07:23.56CIA-11PitBull:
07:23.56CIA-11- Fix layer for health and mana backgrounds.
07:28.04Fisker-Anyone know about adding existing users to existing groups in linux?
07:28.06Fisker-in b4 man
07:29.26WiebbeDoes anyone know when i have an editbox and i copy/paste the text from it, all markup is lost? (ie all \n's)
07:30.05WiebbeNightHawkTheSane, i thought it was ok :P
07:30.18Wiebbeatleast we get 2 movies to finish it all
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07:40.45echosFisker - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add.2Fedit.2Fdelete_system_groups
07:41.49NightHawkTheSaneckknight: is there a good way to set the base frame's height/width inside a layout?
07:41.54NightHawkTheSaneer, in pitbull, obviously
07:45.58Fisker-Doesn't help much i hate reading mans echos :P
07:46.46NightHawkTheSaneyou should get used to it :P
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07:48.48Fisker-It's more because the man are well documented but still fails to give an example
07:49.18Fisker-So i have to read 1 BILLION pages to get some command with 3 parameters
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08:03.44CIA-1103nymbia * r31746 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
08:03.44CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
08:03.44CIA-11- Rewrote a bunch of stuff.
08:04.42mitch0how can I reposition the quest tracker thingy (without ct-core)?
08:06.40CIA-1103nymbia * r31747 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
08:06.40CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
08:06.40CIA-11- Don't do ugly jumpiness while growing.
08:08.46nymbiackknight: that should be a bit better
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08:15.05Silviu-why not add BarFader into core ?
08:16.11mitch0I installed pitbull yesterday. can't say I'm 100% happy with it. the colors are strange for me
08:16.52kergothso change the colors.
08:17.06nuoHepabout layouts in pitbull... is there a way to disable some modules in a layout (not just :hide()'ing it, but completely disabling)?
08:17.19kergothnuoHep: what do you mean by "disable" in this context?
08:19.29nuoHepwell, i can disable portraits for a player frame in dewdrop (/slash commands). is there any way to do this in a layout?
08:19.48nuoHepbesides hiding it
08:19.57mitch0kergoth: yeah, will play with it, but my daughter kept smashing the keyboard, so I gave up :)_
08:20.28SunTigertake an old keyboard, cut of wire
08:20.34SunTigergive to kids
08:20.37SunTigerfixes a lot of problems.
08:21.00[Ammo]morning
08:21.19SunTigeryo [Ammo]
08:21.24kergothnuoHep: take a guess at what the hide portrait option does in the dewdrop.
08:21.40[Ammo]it makes the portrait go black and explode?
08:22.00[Ammo]or it makes the 3d model hide and peek around the corner unexpectedly?
08:23.18kergothhrm
08:23.32nuoHepit does not create portrait frame :p
08:23.40kergothnuoHep: as far as i understand ck's design, a layout is not intended to do anything but layout.
08:27.40[Ammo]frames should be created in :OnPopulate
08:27.46[Ammo]layouting should be done in the layout
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08:28.30Polleke[Ammo], ping
08:28.37[Ammo]pong I guess?
08:28.39nuoHepkergoth, ah. k then. thx
08:29.08Polleke[Ammo], how much chance does the following patch have to get into Candybar:
08:29.14Pollekehttp://kakofonix.vanschayck.nl/wow/candybar-horzspacing.patch
08:29.30nuoHep[Ammo], yeah. i understand that. i just wanted to create a layout and forget about settings forever
08:30.51[Ammo]Polleke: heckng
08:30.53[Ammo]checking
08:31.47[Ammo]Polleke: looks ok, feel free to commit
08:31.57PollekeI don't have commit rights
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08:32.27[Ammo]haha
08:33.18Pollekeor I think I don't, you have to request it right?
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08:38.54CIA-1103ammo * r31748 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar: add vertical spacing option by Polleke
08:38.56[Ammo]I added it
08:39.02Pollekethank you :)
08:39.09[Ammo]polleke belgian or dutch?
08:39.21PollekeDutch
08:39.37[Ammo]me too :)
08:39.51PollekeI figured as much by looking at your hostname
08:40.07[Ammo]my hostname suggests I am at the university of twente :p
08:40.10[Ammo]but that's not entirely true
08:41.34Pollekeyou have a link there because someone else in your house is working there?
08:41.46[Ammo]naah
08:41.50[Ammo]I used to live there 5 years ago
08:41.54[Ammo]my computer just never left
08:42.02[Ammo]it's running in a basement
08:42.12[Ammo]with 100M uplink :)
08:42.25winkillerI was at twente univ once
08:42.28winkillerfor HAL 2001
08:42.37[Ammo]I was there as well
08:42.49[Ammo]even did security duty one night
08:43.07winkillerI just had beers, barbecue and listened some talks
08:43.11PollekeShould I add the new function to the wiki [Ammo]?
08:43.29[Ammo]sure
08:43.52[Ammo]I had beers, slept in my own bed (since I lived across the field), bbq and other stuff
08:44.06winkillerI came 700km or so
08:44.07[Ammo]you remember that big monolith on its side in the main hall?
08:44.13winkilleryesa
08:44.14[Ammo]with the old terminals
08:44.17[Ammo]I built that
08:44.19[Ammo]with some friends
08:44.33[Ammo]emanuel goldstien gave a TV interview sitting on it :)
08:44.42winkillerhehe
08:45.38winkillerthe bread was awful, I hope that little campus supermarket isn't representative for the netherlands :P
08:45.48winkillerat least for us Germans
08:45.58[Ammo]we have proper bread here as well
08:46.03[Ammo]but most of the bread is that soft mush
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08:46.13winkilleryeah, brrrrrr
08:46.15[Ammo]german bread is way heavier though
08:46.25winkillerwell, we had more meat and beer then
08:46.36winkillerbut it was nice there
08:46.56winkillerthere was some guy with a miniVAX in his tent
08:47.02winkillerweird people all over the place
08:47.13[Ammo]definaetly
08:54.57renchapnymbia: is it possible to disable barfader for rage/energy/mana bar, but not for health bar ?
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08:55.37[Ammo]renchap: entirely possible just needs some config :p
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08:56.53HealthI'd like that too!
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09:04.43DynomThe only gross thing I know about german food is mayonaise
09:04.55DynomFrom what I've eten, most german food is better, cheaper and more
09:05.26Stephmwhi guys
09:06.17Fisker-wats goin on in here?
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09:07.03[Ammo]nothing to see here fisker-
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09:08.39renchapwhen a select a target without mana i have a bug with barfader
09:08.53renchapthe mana bar background fade from all blue to grey
09:11.18nymbiadev svn seems down
09:11.31[Ammo]oh hrmf
09:11.41Fisker-roar
09:11.51nymbiaKaelten: ping
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09:13.45cybaneHas anyone had any issues with AG_UnitFrames killing their FPS?
09:16.05nevcairielis it me, or is wowace down/slow-as-hell ?
09:16.22cybaneThe channel?
09:16.23Pollekeit's not just you
09:16.27nevcairielthe page
09:16.31cybaneoh
09:16.36renchap.n
09:16.39renchapoops
09:16.48Dhragacybane, not "killing" the fps, never had an issue with agUF and fps.... BUT, when trying Pitbull instead of agUF I noticed a performance change, it felt a bit faster with pitbull
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09:17.20Nickenyfikennevcairiel: now it's sloooooooooow
09:18.02ZealotOnASticknymbia, you see my post on Manufac?
09:18.08cybaneDoes pitbull have the same functionality?
09:18.14nymbiaZealotOnAStick: uh... maybe
09:18.22Dhragacybane, about the same yes, just try it
09:18.23nymbiarefresh my memory?
09:18.43renchappitbull is still in development, not stable yet
09:18.51cybaneWill check it out tonight after work
09:19.09Dhragarenchap, aye I know, but still working good enough to use ;)
09:19.09ZealotOnAStickposted two buggrabber/sack logs from it.  Totally not working on my alchemist.  :(
09:19.19renchapyup, i use it :)
09:19.29nymbiaZealotOnAStick: oh yeah, i think those were from broken savedvars
09:19.38DynomDhraga: you just gave the authors a hard peepee btw
09:19.54ZealotOnAStickhrm.  I'll move them and try again then I guess.
09:19.59DhragaDynom, how come ?
09:20.28DynomDhraga: Pitbull's aim is to be more efficient then the blizzards way of showing UF's
09:20.42DhragaDynom, yes and ?
09:20.53Dynomso by you saying that it seemed faster is exactly the reaction thats expected
09:21.20DhragaAaaaah... I misread the peepee. :P
09:21.36DhragaDynom, I thought you meant something bad
09:21.50DynomDhraga: hard pee pee's are positive in my experiance
09:22.03DhragaAye, to me to, when reading the word correct
09:22.08Dynomhahahahaha
09:22.17DynomI'm laughing hard here, my boss looked at me funny
09:22.33Dynom<sarcastic smile>'Gee you like coding don`t you' </sarcastic smile>
09:23.12DhragaYes, I noticed a direct performance change in my UI, my complete ui felt quicker with Pitbull.
09:23.18DhragaDynom, LoL
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09:25.11DhragaI love the feel of pitbull, it's really looking promising. (And I have been littering pitbulls wish list with a few posts also in the last 2 days) ;)
09:27.42CIA-1103nymbia * r31749 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
09:27.42CIA-11PitBull:
09:27.42CIA-11- Fix typo in frame creation for party pet targets.
09:30.29Fisker-n00b
09:31.14nymbiawasnt my typo ;p
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09:34.11DhragaQuestion regaring Pitbull's background, when selecting the black background color to be fully transparent, there are still a dim view of the HP/Mana bars in the space where the bars was when getting lower on hp / mana, intentional or bugg ? (I cant get the frames background fully transparent)
09:34.23Stephmwnymbia: you can't be blaming ckknight, he's infalible!
09:34.45CIA-1103rophy * r31750 10GlobalStrings/GlobalStrings-2.0.11-zhTW.lua:
09:34.46CIA-11GlobalStrings:
09:34.46CIA-11- Added GlobalStrings-2.0.11-zhTW.lua
09:34.47nymbiaStephmw: i blame copy-paste. ;)
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09:35.57sbumorning
09:36.58Fisker-remind me that i hate faggots btw
09:37.04[Ammo]Dhraga: that's a feature
09:37.04Stephmwnymbia: ah yes, random corruption of the bytes in memory :)
09:37.34StephmwFisker-: you hate meatballs?
09:37.55Fisker-no faggots
09:37.57Dhraga[Ammo], is it possible to have a feature to remove that feature ?
09:38.02Fisker-faggot paladin who tried to gank me earlier
09:38.03[Ammo]dunno
09:38.09[Ammo]fix a layout
09:38.11[Ammo]:p
09:38.12StephmwFisker-: that's what faggots are. Pork-based meatballs.
09:38.12Fisker-Then i almost killed him but he ran away and cried to mommy
09:38.21Fisker-Then later on i'm doing this escort quest
09:38.24[Ammo]but most of all ask nymbia, he did most of the work on the health and mana modules
09:38.29Fisker-guess which faggot shows up when i'm fighting 3 mobs?
09:38.34Dhraga[Ammo], heh :) okies good to know that it's intentional
09:38.56ZealotOnAStickhttp://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2007/04/01/earth-receives-an-intellegent-signal-from-the-darkness
09:38.59nymbianaw i didnt but i know em well.  all you need to do is make a layout do frame.healthBar.bg:Hide() and you're set
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09:40.03Dhraganymbia, thanks for the tip
09:40.55[Ammo]ZealotOnAStick: notice the date on the article :p
09:41.39Fisker-FUCK YEAH
09:41.41Fisker-faggot
09:41.52Fisker-He finally landed so i went down and killed him
09:41.58[Ammo]Fisker-: go troll somewhere else
09:42.00Fisker-not until he aggroed like 5 mobs and got durabillity loss
09:42.05Fisker-i'm not trolling
09:42.35nevcairielcan someone fix Carto_Notes please? those stacking notes are annoying
09:42.49ZealotOnAStickAmmo - yeah, i didn't until the end.  I haven't read ars in a couple of days, I was just clicking on interesting links on the journals box.
09:43.05ZealotOnAStickHad I read it sunday, I'd have been suspicious.  
09:43.10[Ammo]hehe
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10:01.53CIA-1103nymbia * r31751 10PitBull/Name/Name.lua:
10:01.53CIA-11PitBull:
10:01.53CIA-11- Added Hostility Colored as a default option for name text.
10:06.06cybaneAre there any screenshots for Pitbull on the site?
10:06.18[Ammo]there are some in the thread
10:06.29[Ammo]it basically looks like agUF's ABF layout
10:07.23Nickenyfikenhmm i liked the casting bars floating outside the UFs
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10:09.42Silviu-cybane http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot040307130848rv4.jpg
10:09.48Stephmwnymbia, ckknight: PitBull is coming along nicely, thanks for the hard work :)
10:10.23sbuoh
10:10.30sbuSilviu-: what texture?
10:10.54Silviu-Litestep
10:11.09cybaneHey Silviu do you have any frame rate issues with Pitbull?
10:11.18Silviu-Nop
10:11.19CIA-1103nymbia * r31752 10PitBull/Health/Health.lua:
10:11.19CIA-11PitBull_Health:
10:11.19CIA-11- Default hostility coloring to off for frames on which the option for hostility coloring is disabled (this was preventing getting smooth health colors player/party/etc with all options off).
10:11.19CIA-11- DRYCODED since US servers just went down for maint, could someone on the other side of the world give this a quick test?
10:11.40Silviu-nymbia sec
10:11.41Silviu-i`ll test
10:11.45nymbiathanks :)
10:11.49Stephmwsniff
10:11.52Silviu-lemme` update
10:11.58Fisker-NO
10:12.02Fisker-I WILL TEST
10:12.07Fisker-you others will stand down
10:12.07sbu<-- !!
10:12.11Fisker-STAND DOWN
10:12.21WhitetoothUS test servers are still up
10:12.49sbuthere are test servers? :o
10:12.52nymbiahmm.. how big's the test patch?
10:14.09Gngskit's not 2.1, so it's prolly small
10:14.09nymbiayeah 2.0.12 or something
10:14.09Fisker-indeed
10:14.09WhitetoothI don't know, I logged in using the 0.0.10 client
10:14.09sbuwtb patchnotes
10:14.10Fisker-To fix our h4x
10:14.10Fisker-:(
10:14.10Fisker-nothing else than exploits fixed pretty much
10:14.10nevcairielnymbia: no errors on load or so, seems good
10:14.10Fisker-i.e. no more auto-unstuck
10:14.10Fisker-QQ
10:14.10Gngskand the unstuck tragedy
10:14.23sbuhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
10:14.23sbuoh
10:14.30sbu2.0.12 :o
10:14.40nymbianevcairiel: cool. mind swapping off all the coloring options for your player heath bar and checking if it fades to red when you take damage? ;)
10:14.53sbuPlayers will no longer be able to see their opponents in the Combat Log of an Arena match-up before the game starts. <-- this was possible? :/
10:14.54Silviu-Btw, anyone experience this : if i reloadui i can`t ping the minimap and see the party members in my minimap i mean i can`t see who is when i hower over them :)
10:15.05Silviu-When i logout/restart wow all is back to normal
10:15.22nevcairielsec
10:15.28nevcairielthat spider takes a while to kill me
10:15.41nevcairielyeah its fading yellow-reddish
10:20.36nymbianice :)
10:20.38nymbiathanks nevcairiel
10:24.22Silviu-nymbia works nice
10:25.25nymbiacool, thanks :)
10:25.27Silviu-Hmm ... wtb option to disable status icon on some frames
10:26.01wobin_oh
10:26.03wobin_maintenence
10:26.06Silviu-+ maybe some opacity settings
10:26.08wobin_pfeh
10:26.16wobin_is it long time maint week?
10:26.56CIA-1103ammo * r31753 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: castbar size is now 2/3rds the size of the health and manabars. kinda drycoded change to ABF.
10:27.18sbuahh
10:27.20sbunice :)
10:27.23sbuthx [Ammo]
10:27.26renchap<3 you [Ammo]
10:27.28[Ammo]notice the drycode :p
10:27.31doktoreasmates i am going to re-install full wow...do you think i should do base->we-update->TBC
10:27.40doktoreasor base->TBC->webupdate
10:27.42doktoreasto save time
10:27.49nevcairielbase->tbc should work fine
10:27.49sbui wont play next ~5h, so doesnt matter ;)
10:27.51[Ammo]why reinstall?
10:27.52wobin_aye
10:27.55renchaptbc includes 2.0.1 full patch
10:27.56wobin_base->tbc
10:27.58[Ammo]just copy your folder :p
10:28.08Silviu-[13:29:15] <F'doktoreas> or base->TBC->webupdate
10:28.38doktoreas[Ammo], the pc was getting full of shit
10:28.44doktoreasSilviu-, thanks!
10:28.46Silviu-U will get WoW-2.0.0-to-2.0.3-enGB-Win-patch
10:28.56Silviu-MB
10:29.00Silviu-219
10:29.05[Ammo]doktoreas: just burn your WoW folder on a DVD
10:29.06Silviu-And then WoW-2.0.3.6299-to-2.0.10.6448-enGB-patch
10:29.10[Ammo]and copy it back after reinstalling your PC
10:29.14Silviu-19 MB
10:29.17Silviu-And u are done
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10:31.27sbu[Ammo]: manabar overlaps with castbar :o
10:31.38CIA-1103ammo * r31754 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: small optimization in ABF manabar positioning
10:31.50sbuand icon is still 'full' size (?)
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10:32.49CIA-1103ammo * r31755 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: castbaricon size correction for ABF
10:32.55sbuand targettarget is broken
10:32.56sbu:p
10:33.06[Ammo]shrug
10:33.10[Ammo]don't use beta software
10:33.13Silviu-;))
10:33.32FISKER_Qhttp://store.cmpgame.com/product.php?id=2421&cat=64&skin=gdmag <-Yes i would like to pay 3000$ for a statistic that is useless to me
10:33.36FISKER_QPlease bill my credit card
10:33.55sbu[Ammo]: uhm - just reporting some bugs? :o
10:34.06Silviu-Btw, [Ammo], nymbia for targetoftarget/focus the options come on rightclick not on alt+rightclick, intended ? ;)
10:34.16sbunow mana bar is at same position as the healthbar :)
10:34.37doktoreasSilviu-, so while installing i should download 2.0.0-2.0.3 and 2.0.3-2.0.10?
10:34.51CIA-1103ammo * r31756 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: fix layout for missing manabar and castbar
10:35.06Silviu-doktoreas wait until u install BC too and it will downloded then
10:35.19Silviu-Or yes u can if u find a mirror i did download with bliz thing
10:35.31doktoreasok thank you
10:35.34doktoreasgot a fast one
10:35.37CIA-1103ammo * r31757 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: ok I'm stupid.
10:35.45doktoreasso i should have finished after all install
10:35.55FISKER_QYou're all gonna get V&
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10:36.06[Ammo]I drank way too much beer last night, and it's hurting my brain :p
10:36.49sbuthx [Ammo] :)
10:36.55[Ammo]does it work now?
10:37.00sbuyep
10:37.00[Ammo]and look purty
10:37.02[Ammo]good
10:37.05sbuhmm well
10:37.15sbuportrait needs to be bigger now
10:37.20[Ammo]ah shit
10:37.24[Ammo]I knew I forgot something
10:37.30nymbiaSilviu-: yeah, since those dont have actual unit menus
10:37.58FISKER_QNice
10:38.04FISKER_QI want Halo in Disneyland
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10:39.35CIA-1103ammo * r31758 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: fix portrait size in ABF
10:39.58[Ammo]nymbia: I think for consistency all menu's should be on ctrl-rightclick
10:40.16nymbiayeah
10:40.18AmadeoI agree!
10:40.26AmadeoI noticed you can just right-click ToT and ToTT frames
10:40.30Amadeoeven when locked
10:40.39CIA-1103ammo * r31759 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: argh my head.
10:41.17[Ammo]try that sbu
10:42.40FISKER_Q~seen Kaelten
10:43.16purlkaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (12h 28m 50s) #wowace (12h 28m 50s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 8h 52m 28s, last said: ':s'.
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10:44.39FISKER_Qstupid idlers!
10:44.42FISKER_Qkinda like Kirkburn|afk
10:44.48Amadeo~seen FISKER_Q
10:45.50purlfisker_q is currently on #wowace (16m 2s). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 1m 8s, last said: 'kinda like Kirkburn|afk'.
10:45.51xlviidoes anyone have a steelseries headset, specifically steelsound 5h v2?
10:45.52FISKER_Qnope i don't use crap(lolol)
10:45.52sbuyep [Ammo]
10:45.52sbunice :)
10:45.55AmadeoI was going to get one of those headsets, but I don't like heavy metal
10:46.04Amadeo...get it? HAH!
10:46.11[Ammo]sbu: okiedokie
10:46.36kherethusing the code at http://wrath.fud.no/~rune/cc.txt, how can i display each new result of "str" on a new line, instead of "nick1 nick2 nick3" etc
10:47.17Silviu-[Ammo] now is only half of portrait, sec i make a screen
10:47.28[Ammo]euh?
10:47.30renchapstr = str.."\n"..n ?
10:48.02sbu[Ammo]: http://img486.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pitbull4wo6.jpg
10:48.25Silviu-[Ammo] http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot040307134736ml9.jpg
10:48.29sbu(wah, need smaller aura icon... :o *poke nymbia*)
10:48.51Silviu-With no castbar
10:48.58AmadeoI like that aura size :)
10:49.21[Ammo]Silviu-: ok fixing
10:49.39AmadeoIs that a special layout, or just option tweaks?
10:50.10sbuuhm - its default - you cant change the size :o
10:50.16CIA-1103ammo * r31760 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: fix portrait without castbar
10:50.27sbuSilviu-: wtb that texture - where to get? :o
10:50.33Silviu-Litestep
10:50.54Silviu-U have it in SharedMedia
10:51.08sbuah
10:51.29[Ammo]Silviu-: did that fix it for you?
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10:51.39Silviu-[Ammo] i relog now
10:51.44xyuHas anyone 40 manned w/ pitbull yet?
10:52.08Silviu-[Ammo] works thank u
10:52.08kherethrenchap, that worked - thx
10:52.13sbuahhh right
10:52.20sbusomething is wrong with party display in raid
10:52.24xyuHow do i perma hide those dang raid targets.  I've clicked the "hidden" button but they just rearing their ugly faces
10:52.28[Ammo]it looks way better now with the smaller castbar
10:52.29sbuparty frames are hidden - correct? :o
10:52.39sbu(i dont know why - but ok... they are)
10:52.47Silviu-xyu u can test yourself just go to options global settings/configuration mode
10:52.47sbubut party targets / party pets are still there :/
10:53.00xyuSilviu. yes i've done that.
10:53.04xyuthey just keep popping back up
10:53.26xyui'm going to try a reinstall. i probably screwed with something
10:53.30xyuwhile in combat or something
10:53.52xyui've received a few "fatalities" while playing w/ the options ^^
10:55.56sbumeeh... must... work :/
10:56.11sbu*close wow*
10:57.07CIA-1103ammo * r31761 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: small optimization in portrait size.
10:58.07AmadeoDoes anyone like having full size pet frames?
11:00.45Silviu-Amadeo what u mean by that ? ;)
11:01.13xyui like having invisible pet frames!
11:01.15xyuwewt
11:01.19xlviiany paladins in here? please send me a 'tell', need some advice.
11:02.00xyui'm a 70 pally but i'm a noob.
11:02.09xyui'm one of those bloodelf kind
11:02.15xyuwho don't really know what their doing.  
11:02.19xyuthey're*
11:02.36xlviixyu, well.. you've leveled one, can i talk to you in a query? ;p
11:02.42xlviiit's a question about leveling mainly.
11:02.43xyusure
11:03.28AmadeoSilviu-: I dunno, I just find full size pet frames to be silly :P
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11:04.49Silviu-;)
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11:10.55xlviixyu, did you get my messages?
11:11.06xyunope
11:11.07xyuo_O
11:11.17xlvii<PROTECTED>
11:16.35CIA-1103ammo * r31762 10LockSmith/LockSmith.lua: LockSmith: zoom the icon
11:18.44AmadeoI wonder if the OpenGL changes in this patch are Mac specific or not
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11:21.05clad|showerAmadeo: they are
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11:24.31Amadeocladhaire :)
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11:35.20CIA-1103nymbia * r31764 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
11:35.20CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
11:35.20CIA-11- Add Wild Quillvine to Reagent.Class.Druid
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11:45.48xyupatch?
11:47.15sylvanaarwho's around that wants to entertain a question on AceEvent
11:50.51nevcairielwhat patch?
11:52.51nevcairielis us getting 2.0.12 ?
11:53.24Amadeoyeah
11:53.41[Ammo]notes up somewhere?
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11:53.55sylvanaarAceEvent 996: if event and (not inPlw or not blacklist[event]) then
11:53.57sylvanaaroops
11:53.59sylvanaaryar
11:54.01sylvanaarpatch
11:55.00Amadeohttp://a.wirebrain.de/wow/notes/enUS/6546
11:55.16sylvanaarnothing
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12:00.31FISKER_QQQ
12:00.52moonsorrowhi
12:01.01FISKER_QThis is a sad day :(
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12:05.07CIA-1103jerry * r31765 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua:
12:05.07CIA-11ItemBonusLib:
12:05.07CIA-11_ several small optimisations, removed hack for "white enchantments".
12:05.07CIA-11_ Made PATTERNS_PASSIVE support any number of captures.
12:05.07CIA-11_ Changed "Spell Power" pattern to only add to DMG and not to HEAL.
12:05.08CIA-11_ Added THREATREDUCTION, CR_WEAPON_FERAL and Savagery enchantment.
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12:08.55sylvanaarwhat do you think about modifying aceevent like this: http://ace.pastey.net/10130 too bad nothing is up to try it on
12:10.05[Ammo]why would you when blizzard had already fixed that
12:11.01sylvanaardo you know for sure its still fixed?
12:11.34[Ammo]why would hey revert that
12:11.58[Ammo]it's the reason the zonelag fixing addons are nolonger there
12:12.28sylvanaaryeah cept i have zone lag again
12:12.57[Ammo]adding this to aceevent will add more overhead than it's worth
12:13.06[Ammo]since you're evaluating etc for each and every event
12:13.30[Ammo]but I suggest testing the firing of those events
12:13.45[Ammo]instead of going on a hunch and patching aceevent immediately
12:13.54FISKER_Q~seen nymbia
12:14.24purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-138-197.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 34m 8s ago, saying: 'yeah'.
12:14.31FISKER_Qfucking n00b
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12:15.04sylvanaarwell, prolly easiest thing would be to just count the number of events processed during a PLW->PEW i guess
12:15.43[Ammo]I have no extra zone lag
12:16.23nevcairielneither do i
12:16.37nevcairielzoning is mooth as always
12:16.42SunTigernor do i.
12:17.20sylvanaarhow many addons do you use?
12:17.33Mikmaliek MILLION!
12:17.36[Ammo]dozens
12:17.43sylvanaarnumber
12:17.49[Ammo]including libs around 100?
12:17.53nevcairiellike 112 inclusindg blizz
12:17.59[Ammo]similar to nevc
12:18.10[Ammo]all libs disembedded
12:18.17nevcairieljup
12:18.46sylvanaarhmm...
12:18.46Silviu-117 + bliz
12:18.46Silviu-Including
12:19.26nevcairieli dont have BW or carto disembeded tho
12:19.30NickenyfikenI got 180 including blizz and libs
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12:19.34sylvanaarah
12:19.51[Ammo]I have BW, carto everything lod
12:19.58[Ammo]all but periodictable
12:20.04[Ammo]PT3 lod gave some trouble
12:20.08[Ammo]due to bad addons :p
12:20.20NickenyfikenPT3 is alone 9 folders :-P
12:20.50Nickenyfikenhmm i have not trouble with PT3 lod
12:20.51Mikmaso much for the summer
12:20.54Mikmastarted to snow again
12:20.55Silviu-Only BW and libs are outside
12:20.56Mikmafuck!
12:20.56nevcairieli update BW and carto from SVN, disembeding was such a pain with updating
12:21.03Silviu-oRA2 and Pt3 i let it so
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12:21.13[Ammo]nevcairiel: it's easy with an update.bat :p
12:21.15Silviu-nevcairiel why ? ;)
12:21.24Silviu-cd E:\Jocuri\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns
12:21.24Silviu-svn up .\* --ignore-externals
12:21.24Silviu-cd BigWigs
12:21.24Silviu-call bigwigslod.bat
12:21.24Silviu-pause
12:21.26Silviu-Easy
12:21.29Silviu-:)
12:21.31[Ammo]exactly that :)
12:21.31nevcairielhehe
12:21.39nevcairieli should do that
12:21.44[Ammo]doubleclick the bat file
12:21.48[Ammo]and done :)
12:22.02nevcairieli already have a bat which only updates
12:22.03nevcairielhehe
12:22.15[Ammo]I added all the lod stuff to the bat etc
12:22.33NickenyfikenIs it possible to seperate buffs and debuffs in a PitBull layout?
12:22.42[Ammo]Nickenyfiken: not yet
12:22.44[Ammo]patience
12:22.46Silviu-Yes if have an option "Split"
12:22.56[Ammo]I think
12:23.00[Ammo]or maybe someone added it already
12:23.01[Ammo]shrug
12:23.12Nickenyfikendamn i have no patience
12:23.14Silviu-Yes i think is there .. or at least i saw it today :)
12:23.19[Ammo]oh there is a Split option
12:23.20[Ammo]yeah
12:23.23[Ammo]it should work already :p
12:23.31Nickenyfikensplit options?
12:23.33Nickenyfikenoh oh
12:23.47Nickenyfikenan option in game?
12:24.04[Ammo]but the auraFrame2 for the split is not in the layout file
12:24.09[Ammo]so it might not work properly yet
12:24.46Nickenyfikentheres a lot more in the auraFrame layout i can see
12:24.50Nickenyfikencompared to yesterday
12:25.12Nickenyfikenah split in there yes
12:25.15Nickenyfikengood stuff
12:28.48[Ammo]the second auraframe is not in the layout yet
12:28.48[Ammo]someone has to come up with a good and acceptable default :p
12:28.49nevcairielbelow
12:28.49nevcairiel:)
12:28.49[Ammo]below what?
12:28.49Mikmaass
12:28.49[Ammo]oh ass
12:28.49[Ammo]I like ass
12:28.49Nickenyfikenhmm
12:28.49[Ammo]( . ) ( . ) and (  *  )
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12:30.07[Ammo]i think I can almost use pitbull on my regular playing machine instead of my addon dev laptop :p
12:30.10Nickenyfikenhmm aura settings seems to do nothing
12:30.31[Ammo]Nickenyfiken: probably because the ABF layout still lacks some stuff
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12:34.29Nickenyfikenyeah
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12:41.23NickenyfikenWho is mainly working on PitBull casting bar?
12:43.12[Ammo]I made it based of agUF's one
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12:45.14NickenyfikenWell i miss the old style where it was just floating outside the frame and only appeared and used space when someone was casting something
12:45.24Nickenyfikenguess i have to modify the layout
12:47.09[Ammo]that's a layout issue
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12:47.19abbat_wAmmo, btw you don't plan now to make ora3?
12:47.22[Ammo]with the current ABF layout we're trying to resemble the agUF abf layout
12:47.23Mikk\o/
12:48.49MikkIs "Capoker" hanging out here these days btw?
12:49.32MikkI want to poke around a little in CraftList but ... erm... I dunno if he'd have my head if i did :>
12:49.34moonsorrowthe first time my target frame appears, the casting bar isn't correctly aligned, after re-targeting it is ok, anyone with the same problem?
12:50.07abbat_wbtw, are PitBull is replacement for something?
12:51.40Nickenyfikenany unitframe?
12:51.53Nickenyfikenany unitframe addon
12:51.57apejcicHey, im new here. Does anyone have the time to check up a little pitbull module i wrote for rangechecking?
12:52.05[Ammo]moonsorrow: hmm, how is it not correctly aligned?
12:52.13[Ammo]screenshots!
12:52.19[Ammo]kergoth complained about the same thing
12:52.20moonsorrowor it didn't happen! :P
12:52.20abbat_woh yep
12:52.24moonsorrowwait
12:52.28abbat_wcan someone shot ui with PitBull?
12:52.47abbat_wi look some screenies from wowace forum but maybe something also
12:52.59[Ammo]I did some major updating on the positiong and size of the castbar this morning
12:53.06[Ammo]hoped that fixed it
12:53.49[Ammo]it might be the unknown layout stuff
12:53.50[Ammo]hmmm
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12:55.20moonsorrowhttp://imageigloo.com/viewer.php?id=5792pitbull.jpg
12:55.31abbat_ware pitbull support layots like aguf?
12:56.04abbat_wok, look nice
12:56.11CIA-1103ammo * r31766 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: tweak castbar onunknownlayout.
12:56.28Prophhis there a way to change teh textsize in pitbull?
12:56.38moonsorrowstupid target frame, my modified barfader works for the player frame, but not the target :(
12:57.09[Ammo]moonsorrow: hmm that does look weird
12:57.19Silviu-abbat_w http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot040307155710vc4.jpg
12:57.26moonsorrowyep :)
12:57.49abbat_wmoonsorrow, 2 bars with 'Ghash' under HUD - it's focus frame and focus target?
12:58.13moonsorrowtarget, targettarget and targettargettarget ;)
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12:59.08[Ammo]looks like the BG isn't positioned correctly
12:59.22abbat_wputbull don't support focus frame now?
12:59.32Nickenyfikenit does
12:59.40abbat_wnice
13:00.13abbat_wand finally, are pitbull can do range check like aguf_range_check does?
13:01.52CIA-1103ammo * r31767 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: tweak castbar background positioning, please test moonsorrow
13:02.04moonsorrownot yet, or I didn't find that option
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13:02.33HealthSomeone just said he had done a range check module here in the channel toh!
13:02.38moonsorrow[Ammo]: seems to work
13:02.42[Ammo]k cool
13:02.49[Ammo]was some old leftovers from junk
13:03.20moonsorrowhehe
13:03.50moonsorrowand my barfade modification is working too :) now I don't miss aguf
13:03.58[Ammo]what did you change to barfade?
13:04.05drinis clearfont 2 dependant op clearfong?
13:04.09drinclearfont*
13:04.13HealthNo
13:04.26drinthen my updater doesnt act like i think it should :D
13:04.41HealthNot that I know of.. I only have clearfont2
13:04.41moonsorrowdid you saw the barfade version from yesterday?
13:04.47SunTigerdrin, stab it
13:05.03drin:D
13:05.13drinwowaceupdater 1.7
13:05.14[Ammo]i saw how the barfader worked with the chunks and the smooth
13:05.19[Ammo]what did you change to it?
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13:06.43moonsorrowtoday the actual bar is changing, and I like the version from yesterday, so I changed it back. But it only worked when the bar got depleted, now it works for filling, too
13:06.54moonsorrowso I see immediately the actual value with a nice animation
13:07.08[Ammo]immediately seeing the actual value is best
13:07.13moonsorrowsomething in between the current 2 options
13:07.16[Ammo]I saw that version from yesterday too
13:07.49moonsorrowI'll give it nymbia later, maybe he will add that
13:07.49FISKER_Qi need to kill nymbia at some time
13:08.27JoshBorkepsp
13:08.28JoshBorkelol
13:08.48JoshBorkewhat'd nymbia break this time/
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13:09.08[Ammo]nothing I think
13:09.17[Ammo]but he changed the barfader around
13:09.20CIA-1103pettigrow * r31768 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer: frFR Update
13:09.23[Ammo]and it looks different now apparantly
13:09.26moonsorrow[Ammo]: if you want to test it, I could upload it for you
13:09.46[Ammo]I can't test atm
13:09.50moonsorrowk
13:09.50[Ammo]no machine to play wow on:)
13:09.56[Ammo]all my commits today were kinda drycode
13:10.02moonsorrowhehe
13:10.04[Ammo]with feedback on this channel :)
13:10.10FISKER_Qoh it looks awesome [Ammo]
13:10.12FISKER_Qi liek it
13:10.31[Ammo]the new castbar size is a lot better
13:10.39[Ammo]but simple math was beyond me this morning
13:10.40FISKER_Qalso that
13:10.46[Ammo]so it took me 6 commits to get it right :p
13:10.55moonsorrowit is, the one from yesterday was way too high
13:12.00apejcicowkey gonna try this one more time: "who wanna test the range checking module for pitbull?" :), and: "who can i talk to, for giving this stuff on ace svn?"
13:12.28FISKER_Qi thought we were going sailing today [Ammo] :(
13:12.33FISKER_Qkergoth for ace svn
13:12.37[Ammo]it was not way too high
13:12.43[Ammo]it was exactly the same size as health and manabars
13:12.51[Ammo]but it just didn't look right
13:12.52JoshBorkei'm surprised the current code works
13:13.13[Ammo]apejcic: put a zip up somewhere
13:13.15moonsorrowfor a casting bar it was in my opinion :P
13:13.18[Ammo]and I can commit it for you
13:13.18JoshBorkeoh wait, there it is
13:13.41[Ammo]if you want an svn account there is a post on forums on how to get one
13:13.51apejcic[Ammo] that would be great cuz i goota go study
13:13.57[Ammo]giev zip
13:14.15CIA-1103pettigrow * r31769 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update
13:16.32apejcicAmmo: can i email it to you?
13:16.43[Ammo]sure
13:16.49apejcicemail?
13:16.57[Ammo]wouter@muze.nl
13:17.00MikkSo.. erm.. anyway... small hands up... Would you guys think it'd be a Good Idea(tm) for me to go into CraftList's code without talking to the author first, and making it so that doing "!craft <searchstuff>" works via guildchat as well as whispers?  Just the query bit, answers would still go via whisper.
13:17.01JoshBorkeSPA!
13:17.03JoshBorkeSPAM!
13:17.07[Ammo]haha
13:17.11MikkCause... I can't help but think that it's a bloody marvellous idea :>
13:17.14[Ammo]I already receive 250+ spammailsa  day
13:17.49MikkMy work addy was at 500-600 spams daily two years ago. Then we started tossing high-score spam at the gateway so I have no idea what it is now :>
13:17.50[Ammo]Mikk: just commit with an apology in the commit note if you pissed em off :)
13:17.52kenlyricMikk: could you make another mod that links to craftlist and adds that functionality?
13:18.04JoshBorkeholy shit it's mikk!
13:18.09Mikk[Ammo]: aaaahhhhh good idea. i'll do that :>
13:18.15Mikkkenlyric: it's a oneliner change :>
13:18.18kenlyricMikk: ammo's idea is easier :)
13:18.19MikkJoshBorke: hey =)
13:18.46[Ammo]or make it an option
13:18.46[Ammo]'listen on guildhcat for !commands'
13:18.46[Ammo]that would be even better
13:18.51Mikkaye but afaik the bloody thing doesn't even have a config
13:18.56[Ammo]haha ok
13:19.12Mikki guess i'll find out when i poke around in the code tho
13:20.04Mikkso.. anyway... i'm done levelling my druid from 0-60.. and then to 70... and now she's tanking all the raid crap except for maulgar cos druids don't have shieldblock.  
13:20.11Mikkn that's what i've been doing for the last several months =P
13:20.47apejcicammo: u have it, now i gotta run, bye
13:20.51[Ammo]okie
13:21.05chutwigMikk: we actually had a druid tanking maulgar for a while
13:21.11chutwigkept crushing the warriors too much
13:21.14Mikkeh?
13:21.31Mikktell your warriors to get imrpvoed shieldblock and actually USE it
13:21.32FISKER_QI am lost without you [Ammo] :(
13:21.34[Ammo]a warrior should not be crushed if he has a proper shield :p
13:21.37Mikkshieldblock = you don't get crushed
13:21.41chutwigthis was like a month ago
13:21.41[Ammo]indeed
13:21.45chutwigthey tank it now but at the time
13:21.46chutwigthe druid had more armor
13:21.48Mikkah
13:21.52JoshBorkemikk:  we've missed you :-(
13:21.54chutwigand pre-druid nerf had way more hp
13:22.07JoshBorkewell, i missed you.  but then that's only because i wanted your artistic skills
13:22.09Mikkmust have been real random tho. 10k crush + 10k swing ability thingy = dead druid
13:22.12MikkJoshBorke: =)
13:22.19Mikkso yeah.. i'm taking orders again :>
13:22.26JoshBorkenow that you're back i can't remember why i wanted your artistic skills
13:22.29Mikkhaha
13:22.30Mikkdang =)
13:22.47JoshBorkesadly guildbook has seen very little progress :-/
13:22.53Silviu-Btw [Ammo] what is rmdir /s /q BigWigs_Other
13:23.15Silviu-I never had that folder :)
13:23.21[Ammo]you had it before
13:23.24[Ammo]it was left in to clean it up
13:23.31Silviu-Oh ok :)
13:23.41[Ammo]it got split into BigWigs_Azeroth and BigWigs_Outland
13:23.55abbat_wahha ;)
13:24.01abbat_wmoonsorrow =)
13:24.39moonsorrowwhat?
13:24.40abbat_wmoonsorrow, what about me, i need range check and bar fader ;) if this 2 features exists, i don't miss anything what i use in aguf
13:24.43JoshBorkeyou know, there should be a way to add sockets to items
13:25.05moonsorrowthen you won't miss something now :)
13:25.22MikkJoshBorke: that'd make metagem requirements a bit pointless tho :>
13:25.35abbat_wBut guys, why you start work at PitBull?
13:25.40abbat_wAre agUF not ok?
13:25.52sylvanaarmetagem requirements are a joke
13:26.07JoshBorkemikk:  i was thinking only meta gem sockets could be added
13:26.08kenlyricsylvanaar: I forget, are you a priest?
13:26.11sylvanaarjust use green/purple/orange gems
13:26.12JoshBorkeand only if there wasn't one already
13:26.27sylvanaarwell, my druid was hacked
13:26.32sylvanaarso im a shadow priest now
13:26.34JoshBorke(ie the healing helm from CE) :-(
13:26.49kenlyricah... meta gem requirements are particularly poinhtless for holy priests :)
13:26.57sylvanaarwhy
13:27.09JoshBorkeabbat_w: as ckknight said, PitBull was made out of frustrations with agUF
13:27.09kenlyricbecause all colors of yellow kinda suck.
13:27.18chutwigi keep ag_uf around still because pitbull's raid frames aren't grouped
13:27.24sylvanaarwhat are the req's?
13:27.26kenlyricand all the good metas make you have yellows.
13:27.31sylvanaarno
13:27.43chutwigkenlyric: every time i get a piece of warlock gear with yellow sockets on it i die a little bit inside
13:27.45sylvanaaryou can use green or orange
13:27.55JoshBorkenone of my gear has any sockets atm :_(
13:27.55kenlyriclike i said "all colors of yellow"
13:28.00JoshBorkewhich means no meta gem for me :-(
13:28.07kenlyricthe best I can get is 2m/5s and 4 int.
13:28.12sylvanaarwhat?
13:28.16sylvanaaryeah
13:28.17kenlyricand there are clearly better blue and red gems.
13:28.29chutwigyou can socket gems of other colors in if you don't mind losing the socket bonus
13:28.36kenlyricso I have to settle if I want a yellow... and not a lot of yellow slots on healer gear anyway.
13:28.37sylvanaarlol k, thats not true at all
13:29.17kenlyricwait, what's not true?
13:29.18CIA-1103ammo * r31770 10PitBull_RangeCheck/: PitBull_RangeCheck: initial import, module by apejcic
13:29.25FISKER_QThere should be more questrewards for healing gear
13:29.30FISKER_Qshame on blizzard!
13:29.30sylvanaarthe hybrid gems are usually 1/2 the stat of each color
13:29.37sylvanaarso you get 2
13:29.51kenlyricno, you get 1/2 of 2 stats. That's still one :)
13:29.54sylvanaarwith the added benefit that they count as 1 of each of thier colors
13:29.58chutwigif you don't care about the socket bonus just fill the yellow slots with red healing gems or whatever
13:29.59kenlyricand yellow is the stat I don't care about, int.
13:30.11sylvanaarso they can count as up to 4 gems
13:30.12kenlyricchutwig, that's what I do.
13:30.22kenlyricbut, it means losing out on the meta socket requirements.
13:30.27chutwigi'm going to have to resocket most of my shit if i respec to affliction later
13:30.35chutwigto get rid of all the potent noble topazes i have now
13:30.38[Ammo]grrr foleder in use crap
13:30.39[Ammo]grrr
13:30.40_neuron_clad|work, you around?
13:33.02CIA-1103ammo * r31771 10PitBull_RangeCheck/ (PitBull_RangeCheck.lua PitBull_RangeCheck.toc): PitBull_RangeCheck: actual module import
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13:33.41JoshBorke/golfclap ammo
13:33.42sylvanaar+heal/int or +heal/mana5 whats wrong with those
13:34.09kenlyricthere's no +heal/mana5 that will satisfy a yellowcolor.
13:34.24kenlyricit's healing/int or mana5/int
13:34.26FISKER_Qeach time i see the barfader in action i feel like masturbating
13:34.34kenlyricI think there might be crit there too.
13:34.53kenlyricthese are the gems I generally look at http://wiki.monolithicguild.com/User:Kenlyric#Gems
13:34.59sylvanaaryou dont like int?
13:35.46kenlyric4 int can't really compete with 2m/5s that I can get on royal nightseye.
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13:37.23moonsorrowaaah much better, user-defined font height of the combat text :D now I can read it
13:37.49[Ammo]haha
13:38.01[Ammo]the base fontsize is 13 or so
13:38.06moonsorrowit is
13:38.13RoartindonAmmo: Any chance you can modify PitBull/CastBar.lua so that the castData isn't private to that lua file?
13:38.27[Ammo]why should I?
13:38.29Mikkand i see that CraftList doesn't use ChatThrottleLib. Too bad. I'm gonna ram it down his throat.
13:38.38RoartindonI was hoping for some way (not necessarily easy, just some method), that I'd be able to adjust the start/end times, to adjust for casting lag
13:38.56sylvanaarbut, the gem counts as 2 gems int the 5 yellow, 5 blue, 5 red meta
13:39.33sylvanaarand it counts as 0 gems in the more X than Y meta
13:39.38RoartindonObviously I could hack the CastBar.lua directly, but I wanted to do this as an external module
13:39.45kenlyricare those the only metas whre you have to complete all three requirements?
13:39.47Silviu-seen Fleetfoot
13:39.50Silviu-~seen Fleetfoot
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13:41.21MikkOk... where'd teh bloody SVN repo move to now? >.<
13:41.27sylvanaarit really just counts as 1 of each color, which is rather handy, i guess is all i am saying
13:42.40kenlyricI'm sure I'll redo the math to see if it's worth it for a meta gem... these are the two I'd probably look at http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25901   vs  http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25897
13:43.04sylvanaarie i can activate my 2red, 1blue meta with a red and a purple
13:43.10JoshBorkemikk:  http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/ (ro)  http://dev.wowace.com/wowace (dev)
13:43.37JoshBorkeRoartindon: hook the castingbar module
13:43.47RoartindonEven if I hook the casting bar module
13:43.54RoartindonI can't get to the local spellData inside CastBar.lua
13:43.55sylvanaaralso, some of the hybrid gems get a point in thier favor due to rounding
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13:44.37kenlyricyeah, I prefer the hybrid gems... royal nightseye is my favorite.
13:44.39MikkJoshBorke: ahh. dev.
13:44.46RoartindonI could hook the entire casting bar module and replace every method in there, but that's kind of overkill
13:44.53kenlyricAnd I wish that the blue spirit gem hadn't gotten the shaft.
13:45.21sylvanaarme too
13:45.23[Ammo]adding it as a nonlocal is silly I'd have to do lookups all the time, this way it's faster
13:45.51[Ammo]hmm I have an idea
13:45.53JoshBorke[Ammo]: you could expose it while still keeping it local
13:45.57RoartindonCan you provide a hook function?
13:46.04RoartindonSomething that I can call from outside that sets that local data?
13:46.06RoartindonOr returns it?
13:46.13JoshBorkeframe.castBar.castData = castData[unit]
13:46.15kenlyricdamn, I hate logging out in my damage gear.
13:46.32RoartindonJust trying to fulfill requests: (viz. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5450.0)
13:46.35CIA-1103ammo * r31772 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: add a reference to castData for roartindon
13:46.37sylvanaari have a 60 spirit cloth helm of some sort, i was going to check to see if its the highest spirit item for the head slot
13:46.46RoartindonSweet, thanks heaps
13:47.03[Ammo]self.castData = castData
13:47.04[Ammo]done :p
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13:47.20[Ammo]I can't add it to the castBar frame because it's a recycled hash
13:47.22JoshBorkesee, taht wasn't so bad :-P
13:47.24Roartindonawesome :)
13:47.32RoartindonI'll get to it when my realm comes back up
13:48.11kenlyricthat's sexy!
13:48.18kenlyricsylvanaar: is it a green?
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13:48.50sylvanaarkenlyric blue
13:49.46kenlyrichttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=23762 that's the highest spirit helm in the game, at least that wowhead has.
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13:51.48JoshBorkei found +56 spirit: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24689
13:53.27JoshBorkeoh, blue...
13:53.28kenlyricyeah, I collect elementalist of the spirit gear for fun.
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13:53.37kenlyricbut, as of yet, I haven't seen any drop :)
13:53.44JoshBorkelol :-P
13:53.52sylvanaarkenlyric no it had more
13:54.12Roartindonhmm.. if you really want high spirit on a helm, would you get higher with 3 +8 spirit gems? :)
13:54.13sylvanaarkenlyric it was a drop off the eye mob in SMV
13:55.06sbuhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=31220 <-- 60 spirit
13:55.12kenlyricRoartindon: no, I'm not that sick.
13:55.36kenlyricif they buffed the spirit gem properly, maybe :)
13:55.49kenlyricmy god, that's nice.
13:55.58sylvanaaryeah
13:56.04sylvanaarthats it
13:56.26kenlyricgenerally those random stat items I go for of the prophet.
13:56.37sylvanaaryeah, but thats what i got
13:56.40sbuprophet on that item is really nice
13:56.43kenlyricI'm still wearing elementalist of the prophet bracers.
13:56.56kenlyriccursed lack of healing cloth bracers
13:57.00JoshBorkedizamn is all i have to say
13:57.04JoshBorkekenlyric: yea, i feel ya
13:57.09sylvanaarphysician looks nice on that one
13:57.09sbuand sorcerer... *sigh* :p
13:57.28sylvanaar48 sta 31 int 69 heal
13:57.41sbumeh, where is the +85 holy dmg ;P
13:57.57kenlyricyeah, my complete disregard for stam is starting to bite me in the ass :)
13:58.13sylvanaaryou have over 500 spirit?
13:58.16kenlyricdie in a fire shade of aran.
13:58.22kenlyricyeah.
13:58.27sbublame mooncloth set ;p
13:58.59sylvanaaryeah, think of stam as a way to let your spirit work better since you are alive
13:59.00kenlyricI considered this week going tailoring for mooncloth set, but the rewards weren't really worth it, especially the major loss in stam and int.
13:59.14kenlyricsylvanaar: well, it's not a problem anywhere but shade of aran :)
13:59.26RoartindonGruul would have been fun before with low stam :)
13:59.38kenlyricwell, "anywhere yet" :)
13:59.41sylvanaari died 9 times the first time  i did aran
13:59.56Roartindon8 soulstones+brezzes? :)
14:00.11sylvanaarnot in one fight
14:00.22kenlyricgod, I can never remember the name of that spell. Flamestrike?
14:00.24Roartindonlol, that'd be a repair bill
14:00.30RoartindonFlame wreath?
14:00.36kenlyricAnyway, the last time I did aran this week, I avoided it completely.
14:00.46kenlyricno, the thing he does after drinking.
14:00.55RoartindonPolymorph+Pyroblast
14:00.57Daemona*sing* i will not move when flame wreath is cast ... *sing*
14:01.18kenlyricpyroblast. Yeah. It didn't touch me. I want to try that every fight.
14:01.36Roartindonwe generally try and kill him before polymorph
14:01.40RoartindonThat bit us in the ass 2 weeks ago
14:01.46RoartindonWhen he died to dots while drinking
14:01.51RoartindonWhich bugs the instance
14:01.52Mikkhahahaha
14:02.08RoartindonFunny thing was our guild was laughing at us
14:02.12RoartindonThen they did the same thing 15 minutes later
14:02.15sylvanaarmy guild demoted me for messing up too many times on new enocounters
14:02.20RoartindonSo we had two groups of us sitting outside karazhan waiting for reset
14:03.03kenlyricI think with the speed he goes down that we could get him down before he drinks. But I am not the raid leader.
14:03.07renchap[Ammo]: can you add a little option for pitbull castbar ?
14:03.29renchapi dont want to see the castbar background when there iam not casting
14:03.41RoartindonI think he's added that option within the last 24 hours
14:03.43sylvanaarmy first time on aran i died 9 times, mag i moved when i clicked the box my first time, etc
14:03.48Mikkkenlyric: just get plenty of interrupts in there (shieldbash, kick, earthshock, whatever) and it's totally doable even with lower dps
14:03.58Mikkofc, problem is that all those people with interrupts actually need to cooperate
14:04.03Mikkif they all interrupt the same thing ...
14:04.09renchaphe added the background within the last 24 hours ^^
14:04.15[Ammo]correct
14:04.16kenlyric17% last night apparently... so it's almost there.
14:04.34Daemonayou have to chain your interupts
14:04.38[Ammo]I'll see what I can do renchap
14:04.39Daemonaand break all but arcane missile
14:04.45renchapthx a lot [Ammo] :)
14:04.46Roartindonr31618: PitBull-CastBar - hide bg when the castbar gets hidden (hopefully)
14:04.47Daemonacause with arcane missile the mana is spent at cast start
14:04.48kenlyricit's more things to keep track of than any other fight I've done in wow. So it just takes practice.
14:04.57[Ammo]that's ancient :p
14:05.02[Ammo]it's changed
14:05.02Roartindonoh :)
14:05.14[Ammo]it's like agUF now with castbar bg shown
14:05.20sbuMikk: it is doable with lower dps - if you all have 7500+ HP, and you have to stop dmg at 41% :o
14:05.59renchapi think i will have a look to layouts
14:06.04renchapi have some ideas :)
14:06.08kenlyricsbu: that's our basic strategy... we have to slow down at 45%.
14:06.13sbuah ok
14:06.32RoartindonWe used to do that 45% slow down, but really, killing him quickly seemed far less troublesome :)
14:06.45sbuif you have enough dps... :o
14:06.54HealthWe had him down to 1% when he started drinking last time.
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14:07.02sbuheh ;o
14:07.19[Ammo]renchap: I will have to add the background hiding/showing again to the castbar.lua and add an option for it
14:07.25[Ammo]always, only when casting etc
14:07.45renchapok
14:07.56[Ammo]for now, this is how it is
14:07.58kenlyricI think it'd be beneficial to deal with the adds. Warlocks aren't exactly use to double CC *and* doing decent dps too.
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14:08.30RoartindonWe have one warlock that triple ccsc
14:08.33RoartindonCCs
14:08.39HealthHeh. That depends on what warlocks you have
14:08.40Kaeltengeez it must me spam the wowace-svn group day
14:08.47Kaeltenhows it going guys?
14:08.53JoshBorkeKaelten: morning kaelten
14:09.00renchapkergoth: ping ?
14:09.04RoartindonAnd a hunter that MDs the remaining one to a warrior
14:09.10HealthRoartindon: Using Howl of Terror too?
14:09.34kenlyricHealth, well, consider how clueless chutwig thinks I am, and then consider that I think these guys are pretty useless, and you'll begin to see the dilemma :)
14:09.49HealthNice!
14:09.59HealthTurns around with the keyboard too?
14:11.16[Ammo]Kaelten: it's giong nice
14:11.16kenlyricHealth: still a skill I'm learning.
14:11.16kenlyricIt does seem to be more of a pvp skill. Doesn't come up very much in pve.
14:11.16[Ammo]now to work on a xp/rep bar
14:11.16Roartindonhealth: not sure; I'll have to ask him what he's doing, we assigned two to him, and he ended mid battle saying he'd take 3
14:11.16Roartindonand he's taken 3 ever since
14:11.45HealthWell, that's the only other spell a warlock can CC with :)
14:11.47RoartindonWe did our first attempts on aran with no warlock, killing one add, controlling 3 others
14:13.19[Ammo]banish one, chainfear one
14:13.24[Ammo]wonder how he's doing the 3rd reliably
14:13.37Roartindonyeah, I wonder
14:13.40chutwighowl will control one for 8 seconds and then you just forget about it
14:13.42HealthYeah, there is a cooldown on howl of terror
14:13.44RoartindonWill definitely have to ask
14:13.49[Ammo]40 sec cooldown on howl
14:13.55[Ammo]so you have 32 seconds of major pain
14:14.04chutwig2 of them you can generally ignore
14:14.05kenlyricthe adds have an aggro table, correct?
14:14.09nadashmm, is it me or did toadkiller break cyCircled's autobar plugin? :(
14:14.10Healthyes
14:14.11Roartindonyeah, they do
14:14.31kenlyricso, howl would aggro on the warrior. Rather than the squishy priest. :)
14:14.42Roartindonwe had one prot warrior put on frost resist gear and have him tank 2-3 of them with hunter misdirect assisting when we had no warlock
14:15.04Roartindonadds can be silenced/counterspelled/etc too
14:15.12renchap[Ammo]: the left castbar margin seems to be buggy
14:15.24kenlyricRoartindon: yeah, FrR gear would be a lot better than having warlocks waste all that time with CC.
14:15.34renchapnot the same as portrait
14:15.38renchap(1 or 2 pixels)
14:16.09Roartindonhmm.. I think I'd prefer cc in general
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14:16.47[Ammo]renchap: it shouldn't be buggy
14:16.54[Ammo]but give screenshots
14:17.01[Ammo]it might be scaling related...
14:17.05renchapok, wait
14:17.14[Ammo]scaling -> can look weird
14:17.29renchapi use 135% scaling
14:17.45Silviu-120% here
14:17.51Health100% here
14:18.14HealthWere there an option to change font size now? Or was that a layout option?
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14:22.24FISKER_QMY COCK
14:22.27FISKER_Qoh hi there
14:23.11hasteFISKER_Q: so I herd u liek mudkips
14:24.15[Ammo]don't feed the troll
14:24.25renchap[Ammo]: ttp://perso.renchap.com/wow/WoWScrnShot_040307_161700.jpg
14:24.32renchaphttp://perso.renchap.com/wow/WoWScrnShot_040307_161700.jpg sorry
14:24.42FISKER_QTTP?
14:24.45FISKER_Qwhat trickery is that?
14:24.53renchapan error ^^
14:25.20[Ammo]renchap: that's really weird
14:25.26[Ammo]could be rounding errors in scaling
14:25.27FISKER_Qbtw it also looks like the manabar sometimes overlaps the castbar
14:25.37[Ammo]rounding errors as well
14:25.39FISKER_Qin b4 mudkips
14:25.48renchapheight : 70, width : 245, scale : 135%
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14:26.53[Ammo]because both the castbar and the portrait are set at the same point
14:26.58[Ammo]5 pixels inside the frame
14:27.08[Ammo]so that offset is caused by scaling issues
14:27.09FISKER_Qsure blame rounding errors!
14:27.16[Ammo]or osmething
14:27.42FISKER_QI think it's an attempt to cover up 9/11
14:27.58[Ammo]someone should dig a hole, dump you in it and cover it up
14:28.25FISKER_Qwhy cover it up?
14:29.00FISKER_QI think the public would like me being dead
14:29.29kenlyriccursed armory needs a cached page.
14:29.39Dynomkenlyric: it definetly does
14:29.48DynomI don't get why they don't use template caching anyway
14:29.52kenlyric"remember this outfit always"
14:30.04[Ammo]closetgnome_switcher :p
14:30.07kenlyricI guess I mean a snapshot, not a cache.
14:30.09[Ammo]equip on logout
14:30.19[Ammo]always in your festive dress on the armory!
14:30.23kenlyric[Ammo]: I have that. I should probably set it up.
14:31.00kenlyricDidn't realize there was an on logout event... would that work in a city?
14:32.11Dynomwell why not
14:32.30Elkanoammo, does that work? iirc PLAYER_LOGOUT is fired at a time when the connection to the server has already been closed; at least you won't be able to leave chat channels at that point
14:33.02Dynomsounds like a call that dispatches to the server before the actual d/c tbh
14:33.41Dynomat least thats how I coded it
14:34.55RoartindonElkano - wondering if it's possible to update TENCH stuff smoothly also? :) had a couple of shaman procs stagger their way down :)
14:36.21HealthDynom: You coded that in the wow client? :)
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14:36.40Elkanohmm...
14:36.55Roartindoncould determine which OnUpdate to call right after the if data.timemax > 120
14:37.04RoartindonSo have an OnTenchUpdate() method
14:37.19RoartindonAnd set the OnUpdate script to that if appropriate
14:37.30DynomHealth: no, I worked on a small mmo project; I coded the network section
14:37.32sylvanaareveryone should read my post and comment: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5542.0
14:37.36sylvanaar^.^
14:37.49DynomHealth: that would be a nice cleanup call
14:38.30sylvanaarwhy arent closet gnome modules lod?
14:38.36CIA-1103helium * r31773 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFuLocale-zhTW.lua:
14:38.36CIA-11FuBar_LocationFu:
14:38.37CIA-11- Updated zhTW locale
14:38.41nevcairieli dont really get the why either sylv :p
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14:40.09RoartindonI think it's to cleanup the .toc
14:40.13RoartindonIf I understand correctly?
14:40.18sylvanaarlol, well, given there really isnt a standard anything is better than nothing
14:40.19RoartindonYou have a clearly defined EmbeddedLibraries.xml
14:40.51sylvanaaryeah, plus you can disembed by deleting that xml file
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14:40.53JoshBorkesylvanaar: i really don't get it
14:40.59Oridanhey peeps
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14:41.14[Ammo]Elkano: it works, haven't checked the code how it does it
14:41.14JoshBorkeyou can disembed by just deleting the lines in the toc?
14:41.16sylvanaarwhich lines
14:41.26Roartindondisembed by deleting the .xml
14:41.33JoshBorkethat replicate the xml Script file lines (in current implementations)
14:41.49[Ammo]Elkano: it hooks the Quit() function
14:42.07[Ammo]and the Logout funciton
14:42.32sylvanaar^.^ standard file name embeds.xml deletion is much easier than randomly placed strings in the toc
14:43.13nevcairielyou just use zips with no externals in them
14:43.19nevcairielso you dont have to delete anything
14:43.30sylvanaarbut wow still looks for them
14:43.37nevcairielso?
14:43.45nevcairielsome error messages in the FrameXML.log
14:44.58sylvanaarsure
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14:47.05sylvanaarits just a suggestion - i dont expect anyone to like it
14:48.22Roartindonoh.. and it's patch day?
14:48.37Roartindonwhat makes you think that? :)
14:48.45sylvanaarmy patch
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14:48.51CIA-1103elkano * r31774 10ElkBuffBars/EBB_Bar.lua: ElkBuffBars - smoothed TENCH bar updates
14:48.59sylvanaar^.^
14:49.00ElkanoRoartindon, here you go :)
14:49.06Roartindoncool, thanks :)
14:51.56RoartindonElkano - any plans to make the barcolor/barbgcolor user specifiable alpha?
14:52.01RoartindonRather than hard 0.8/0.3?
14:52.03RoartindonSame with text?
14:52.31Elkanohmm...
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14:53.13renchapis Cartographer_Noteshare useful ? i see that Cartographer_Notes can share notes
14:53.29RoartindonI see some rumblings in the other thread about not having a background.. letting them specify 0 alpha for it would be one way :)
14:53.39IcerothElkano, does it save settings already?
14:53.56ElkanoIceroth, since it's beta now ^^
14:54.13Icerothneat, gonna give it another try then :)
14:54.23CIA-1103sayclub * r31775 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
14:54.24CIA-11Babble-2.2:
14:54.24CIA-11- Babble-Spell-2.2.lua : Updated localization koKR
14:56.28kenlyricrenchap: I believe noteshare lets you share all types of notes.
14:57.23MikkI still think note reception needs an intelligence buff. I'm sooooo sick of having 5 copies of the same herb/mine/vendor/quest etc nodes in virtually the same spot
14:57.43renchapi want to add an option to notifications
14:58.20renchapto only display new notes notifications, no duplicates
14:58.26kenlyricMikk... I think there was discussion in making a 20 yard range filter.
14:58.56renchapbecause when somebody is mining, you get 4 notifications per mine
14:59.06HealthThe filter works when picking flowers and stuff. But not when sending notes
14:59.25nevcairieli disabled note reception until that is fixed now
14:59.26renchapHealth: there is a filter in noteshare
14:59.26kenlyricI get duplicate notes from mining.
14:59.51kenlyricwell, I have some duplicate notes... it's possible they are from before a filter was put in place.
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15:00.09renchaplocal _,p_x,p_y,p_icon,_,p_data = Cartographer_Notes:GetNearbyNote(zone,x,y,5,creator,true) -- if there is already a ntoe within 5 yards of this one
15:00.14RoartindonAmmo- what's the 'correct' way to access the CastBar module? use Pitbull:IterateModules() until I find the CastBar module?
15:00.21kenlyric5 yards isn't enough.
15:00.23nevcairielthere should be a filter to clean duplicate notes when they are shown
15:00.34kenlyricsince the range to pick is five yards, and you can  pick from either side.
15:02.01JoshBorkeRoartindon: PitBull:GetModule("CastBar")
15:02.15Mikknevcairiel: yes
15:02.16[Ammo]what joshBorke said
15:02.26[Ammo]local PitBull_CastBar = PitBull:GetModule("CastBar")
15:02.42kenlyriccart is also kinda dumb about khorium and large adamantite.
15:03.05kenlyricit shouldn't really ever mark either one.
15:03.37kenlyricbut, it's probably not something trivial to fix, since both gatherer and cart do the same thing for gold, truesilver, etc.
15:03.38RoartindonThanks :)
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15:06.20Oridani thought carto checked for notes within 5 yards when receiving shared data
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15:09.35Sarozckknight, ping
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15:09.38HjalteDoes anyone know what is happening with ui.worldofwar.net, curse and worldofwarcraft.com?
15:09.57Elkanous maintenance?
15:10.09Oridani'm on wow.com now, seems ok to me
15:10.13HjalteOh, is there a patch or something?
15:10.34Oridanits a little slow, but nothing compared to what it has been
15:11.22SarozAnyone know if there is a function in cartographer to check if there is a note near another note
15:11.24RoartindonAmmo - what do you mean by fix for choppyness comments in the castbar code?
15:12.06OridanSaroz: Cartographer_Notes:GetNearbyNote
15:12.10RoartindonThe scaling by 0.001 is just to bring the time scaled used by UnitCastingInfo() in line with GetTime() I believe
15:13.20SarozOridan, thx
15:13.21[Ammo]ah ok
15:13.27[Ammo]I thought it fixed choppyness
15:13.28[Ammo]meh
15:13.45[Ammo]I took most of the code from agUF
15:14.18renchapi think cartographer notesharing should be checked. cartographer_notes has it built-in, but without a lot of features, and cartographer_noteshare has a lot of features, but uses _notes options
15:14.45CIA-1103ammo * r31776 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: remove comments that make no sense.
15:14.46[Ammo]removed the comment :)
15:15.26[dRaCo]is the castbar module done yet?
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15:15.37RoartindonAlso, any plans to add support for castbars of non-event frames?
15:15.42Oridanrenchap, i agree.
15:15.45Roartindonie. ToT/ToTT/ToFocus/Party pets?
15:15.56[Ammo]nope
15:16.01Mikkdo we even get events for those? o.O
15:16.03Frostbyghtehey folks, is there anyone I could talk to about the www.wowace.com servers mail configuration?
15:16.13RoartindonNope
15:16.13[Ammo]there are no events for those
15:16.13RoartindonBut the code in aguf
15:16.13Roartindonuses a strobe to update those
15:16.13[Ammo]so you'd have to manually guess them
15:16.22RoartindonNah, in aguf, I used a metro timer
15:16.27renchapFrostbyghte: Kaelten
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15:16.36[Ammo]bah
15:16.36RoartindonAnd called a routine which filled in the castData structure
15:17.01RoartindonIt's nice being able to see the casting bar for eg. the warlock's succubus' seduction
15:17.06renchapis ckknight the cartographer guru ?
15:17.13Mikkyes
15:17.24FrostbyghteKaelten: are you available? :)
15:17.25Mikkbase cartographer that is
15:17.51renchapand who is leading the carto dev team now ? :D
15:18.09[Ammo]Roartindon: ah I see what you mean
15:18.09[Ammo]hmm
15:18.14[Ammo]I can add it to PitBull
15:18.18[Ammo]will do
15:18.22Mikkrenchap: hmm how do you mean? you can write your own addons at will
15:18.27RoartindonUpdateCastBar() from ag_UnitFrames
15:18.28Mikkmodules, i mean
15:18.29Roartindonwas called on a metro timer
15:18.35[Ammo]Roartindon: I just noticed it :)
15:18.39RoartindonCool :)
15:18.41renchapi think we need to change the notesharing
15:18.54pastaman1erFrostbyghte: what seems to be the problem?
15:18.56Mikkbetter cleanup of dupes you mean?
15:19.01Mikki think everyone's agreed on that tbh =P
15:19.03renchapcurrently it is in both notes and noteshares
15:19.14RoartindonIf you have any questions about that code, or stupid things that are done there, then I think I remember most of hte reasoning behind it stil
15:19.33renchapbut i want somebody that can tell me what is the "good" way to change that
15:19.45FrostbyghteI just wanted to talk about the mail server a bit to the admin
15:19.48Mikkprod the devs of those two mods
15:19.57MikkFrostbyghte: you having message delivery problems i take it?
15:20.29pastaman1erFrostbyghte: Kaelten is pretty busy.  Perhaps I can help.
15:20.59stavmarAntiarc|Work: ping
15:21.15renchap'seen kagaro
15:21.18Frostbyghtemy own server is very strict about what email it accepts, and I recently I had issue receiving email from 209.9.227.66, it seems that system identifies itself as just 'ubuntu' in it's HELO
15:21.20renchap~seen kagaro
15:22.10purlkagaro <n=sscotto@66.193.208.247> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21d 18h 48m 9s ago, saying: 'cubicool: cool'.
15:23.06RoartindonIn ag_UnitFrames, the UpdateCastBar was also called on focus change, or target change/etc.
15:23.16Frostbyghteso I figured I would just let the admin know it was just sending out 'ubuntu' when it starts up it's email send
15:23.27RoartindonSo that you'd get information on the new unit's casting immediately
15:23.49MikkFrostbyghte: err. yuck. that's .. erm... not right, yeah
15:24.19MikkPretty sure my spamassassin scripts give bonuses to selfidents like that too
15:25.08Frostbyghteyes there are some scripts avail that score that up
15:25.23FrostbyghteI have postfix setup to just fire off a rejected message when it doesn't get a fqdn
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15:25.41Frostbyghteobviously you have delt with a lot of spam as well :)
15:26.01Frostbyghtedrives me nuts, and most spammers don't follow the RFC for sending email...so :)
15:26.04pastaman1erFrostbyghte: fixed
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15:26.12SarozOridan, you know how to see if two identical notes are at the same location?
15:26.14MikkI used to get 600 spams a day to my work address two years ago. Then I had it and just threw stuff away on the outer gateway. Have no idea what it's up to now :>
15:26.33Frostbyghtepastaman1er: woot
15:27.07renchapSaroz: loot at cartographer_noteshare
15:27.08MikkFrostbyghte: If you're doing some sort of scoring, consider scoring up stuff delivered via SMTP rather than ESMTP too...   unless the spamassassin guys accepted that patch from me already.
15:27.10renchap*look
15:27.11FrostbyghteMikk: I finally installed postfix with some strict rules, spamassassin, razor, etc etc etc
15:27.19pastaman1eryeah, between postfix sanity checks and SARE, at least 70% of all incoming mail is blocked
15:27.52MikkGranted, there's nonspam delievered via SMTP too... but ... not a lot :>
15:28.02[Ammo]Roartindon: I'll fix it
15:28.05Sarozrenchap, I am. but noteshare does the check before adding the note
15:28.15Frostbyghteman it's really nice to drop in a channel like this and folks actually understand what the hell I'm saying lol
15:28.21Mikk=)
15:28.41Frostbyghtewas a bit scared of the uh WoW factor :)
15:28.46Sarozrenchap, so how do you distingush two notes with the same coordinates and same name
15:28.56Mikkwell, we're mostly coders here. that prolly helps ;)
15:29.17Frostbyghteindeed...I'm not much for coding but a system admin
15:29.37Frostbyghtereally enjoying the ace addons, figure I would post on some of the threads in the forums
15:29.47Mikkcheers =)
15:29.47pastamancerso why razor and not pyzor?
15:30.23pastamancerewww
15:30.31Frostbyghtebecause it's in python?  I don't know lol
15:30.53FrostbyghteI just grabbed one...no reason really
15:31.07renchapSaroz: i dont know :/
15:31.09Frostbyghteis there a benefit for one over the other?
15:31.21renchapbut is it possible to create 2 notes with the same coordinates ?
15:32.03pastamancerI'mm trying to remember why we went with pyzor...
15:32.23FrostbyghteI read up on both, I have no clue why I selected razor over pyzor
15:32.38FrostbyghteI even have a friend that makes me run python code on one of our sites :)
15:32.42pastamancerah, it was because we set it up before razor went free
15:32.43Frostbyghtethat is all he will develop in
15:33.10pastamancerand because it's not perl
15:33.17Frostbyghte:)
15:33.26Sarozrenchap, I have tons, might be old data, but want to clean it up
15:33.49renchaptry to find a ckknight ^^
15:34.01FrostbyghteI even started using spf, it seems to catch a few spammers as well
15:34.21Mikk"Pyzor initially started out to be merely a Python implementation of Razor, but due to the protocol and the fact that Razor's server is not Open Source or software libre, I decided to impelement Pyzor with a new protocol and release the entire system as Open Source and software libre. "
15:35.18MikkTo be fully honest, the world at large probably benefits from having lots of different systems in use. Keeps the spammers from aiming their attack vectors against a single system.
15:35.44Frostbyghtespeaking of spam, is there a decent addon for WoW that works either in Prat or with Prat that I can use to filter out the 'Chuck Norris' spam?
15:36.03Mikkhaha. yeah there is iirc =)
15:36.09Frostbyghte:)
15:36.18Mikkfwiw, any half decent filtering addon will work with prat automagically
15:36.30Mikksince prat doesn't take over too much iof the internals of the original chatframe system
15:36.54[Ammo]Roartindon: I drycoded the casting wacky frames
15:36.57[Ammo]care to test? :)
15:37.02Mikk(I.e. IgnoreMore, my own extended ignorelist addon, won't work with some chat systems. I didn't have to lift a finger to have Prat work with it tho)
15:37.10FrostbyghteI was hoping Prat would have a modules
15:37.15Frostbyghteer module
15:37.58Frostbyghtehey...I think I use one of your mods
15:38.09FrostbyghteMikScrollingBattleText?
15:38.09Mikkhttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/2349/antichucknorris/
15:38.14Mikk~mikk
15:38.25purlmethinks mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied.
15:38.29pastamancerhaha
15:38.41Frostbyghtethat's another Mikk?
15:38.51Mikkaye. he hangs out here by the name of Mikord =)
15:39.00Frostbyghteoh ok...sorry for the confusion
15:39.06Mikkdude, you are NOT the first ;)
15:40.13MikmaMikk: R U THE GUY WITH MSBT?!??!
15:40.45Chompersmsbt is going ace2?
15:41.04Chompers(yay for starting rumors)
15:41.12renchapAce3 i think
15:41.20Mikk~whalestuff Mikma
15:41.37FrostbyghteI don't understand why more developers don't embrace the 3rd party addon community like Blizzard has
15:42.11Frostbyghtetake City of Heroes for instance, you can do minor changes to it but the folks at NCSoft basically squashed any development there
15:42.14RoartindonIt's hard to get a game popular enough for 3rd party addon people to be enthused enough to start coding for it :)
15:42.51RoartindonAnd it means that your client code has to be a LOT more solid, since people are going to be calling stuff in ways you never tested
15:43.01FrostbyghteI think Eve Online would be a nice game for interface addons, it has a strong community behind it
15:43.03Frostbyghtethat's true
15:43.14MikkPlus it doesn't even matter what the devs think
15:43.19MikkYou have to sell the idea to the execs
15:43.34MikkAnd then they see "uhh.. this is gonna cost money... API?  uhh wow, many hours" and toss the idea out the door
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15:44.01Frostbyghtewell I can see where Blizzard got the money to put into their API as their stock interface is complete crap
15:44.12Mikkhaha
15:44.23sedatedChipmunki think it works the other way around
15:44.27MikkI prefer calling it "inspirational" :>
15:44.31Frostbyghtethey don't even allow simple dragging of windows
15:44.39RoartindonYou may call it crap, but I've seen worse.....
15:44.45MikkOr "idiot proof"
15:45.07kenlyricit's pretty nice compared to a lot of the other MMOs.
15:45.13sedatedChipmunkthey said, "hey, we can just release an api and we don't have to hire our own interface guys"
15:45.18Frostbyghtewell I was playing EQ2, CoH before WoW and while there isn't a lot there I could at least create all the buttons I needed and put them wherever I wanted
15:45.18kenlyrici can, you know, actually play the game with it.
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15:45.55Frostbyghtebut with the addons, WoW has a far better interface than anything else I've seen
15:46.01MikkAye me too. I refuse to become so dependent on an addon that I can't play when everything breaks down.
15:46.08kenlyricyeah, because you can make it exactly how you want.
15:46.08MikkSo lots of keybinds ftw
15:46.39kenlyricMikk: that's why I'm so adamant that bar mods use the default keybinds at least for bar 1. So even if the mod is broken, bar 1 still works :)
15:46.58kenlyricthough, I've actually forgotten if bartender does that, because it's been so long since it broke.
15:47.45Industrialbar mods shouldnt bind keys :P
15:47.48Industrialall up to the user
15:48.09MikkDepends what kind of bar mod it is
15:48.15PProvostThere is something in the SVN called Bartender3_AutoBindings that will assign the Blizz bar bindings to the Bar3 bindings (I think)
15:48.19MikkI mean.. if it isn't even "bars" but rather "random buttons" ....
15:48.20PProvostI don't use it, so I'm not 100% sure
15:48.21kenlyricwhat I mean is that when you install a bar mod, whatever is bound to blizzard bar 1 should bind to the mod's bar 1.
15:48.46kenlyricso that if I disable the Bar mod, 1-= is still bound to something useful.
15:48.57Industrialmm yeah agreed
15:49.13PProvostI guess one that 1 day in 100 that I have an issue, I can quicky rebind my bars if need-be
15:49.21CIA-1103mikk * r31777 10CraftList/ (. CraftList.lua CraftList.toc): CraftList: Import and use ChatThrottleLib for message sending. Irresponsible to not use it. And MUCH safer to use it -- overload problems magically go away.
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15:50.11PProvostHey ckk
15:51.20renchapMikk: maybe you should add a Libs folder to your addon ?
15:51.59Frostbyghtewhat addon is yours Mikk?
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15:52.00Sarozuh uh, whats craftlist
15:52.27CIA-1103ammo * r31778 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: experimental drycoded support for wacky unit castbars
15:54.13Phatrikcraftlist is like gemlist or enchantlist, but for all craft-professions
15:54.18PhatrikI wish it included ALL professions
15:55.06[Ammo]Roartindon: check that commit :)
15:56.04MikkFrostbyghte: Tbh, I only have one proper addon out there, "IgnoreMore"... i've mostly been doing library and graphics work and other behind-the-scenes stuff.
15:56.10SarozMade my Cartographer_Cleanup \o/
15:56.24nevcairieldo share!
15:56.28MikkGIFV!
15:56.44Sarozremoves dup nodes
15:56.44Sarozftw
15:56.45Frostbyghtehell, I'll have to add this to my freenode autojoin list...great channel you guys have here
15:57.09MikkSaroz: I expect to see that on SVN in minutes :>
15:57.14Sarozhaha
15:57.28Chomperssounds cool
15:57.32Chompersmust give that a try
15:58.13pastamancerMikk: will IgnoreMore let me ignore everyone that keeps asking me to heal?
15:58.15Frostbyghtehttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/IgnoreMore  your addon is not claimed! :)
15:58.27MikkDamnit!
15:58.47Hjalteweab, ping
15:58.55weab.
15:58.57renchap[Ammo]: what about adding a mirror bar to pitbull ? :)
15:59.31Frostbyghtewow, nice addon I think I'll add it and see how it goes...does it show people I already have on ignore?  I've never looked at how to see the ingame ingore list
15:59.43[Ammo]renchap: sod off
15:59.57[Ammo]that's just silly
15:59.57Sarozhrrrm, it's a noteshare problem, the noteshare range check is 5 yards, but thats not enough for tooltips to group
15:59.57renchaphu ?
16:00.03renchapwhy ?
16:00.10[Ammo]because it's silly
16:00.13MikkFrostbyghte: yeah, shows it in the same place as the original one. plus allows you to doubleclick entries in the list to sets notes for em
16:00.16Hjalteweab: Just got this error with Automaton, it appears when having more than 10 signets/marks and trying to turn it in. It seems Automaton doesnt really know what to do or something: http://ace.pastey.net/10156
16:00.19[Ammo]I might do it later on, but it's illy
16:00.28MikkFrostbyghte: it's in the same tab as your friend list. a sub-tab labelled "Ignore" :>
16:00.41renchapblizzard bar is ugly
16:00.44weabaldor rep?
16:00.50renchapand i dont want to use a castbar addon only for this ^^
16:00.57TecnoBratis pitbull the new agUF? or .. different design ideas?
16:01.07Hjalteweab, yeah
16:01.19[Ammo]hmm the castbar stuff I drycoded kinda works :)
16:01.28weabhuh. i fixed that like two months ago, guess i never committed it
16:01.32Hjalteweab, Marks of sargeras to be more precise
16:01.37Sarozhrrrm, maybe I should make the Cartographer_Noteshare note check 10 yards, instead of 5
16:02.08renchapSaroz: i want to add a "Notify new notes only" options
16:02.13FrostbyghteMikk: heck, I never noticed
16:02.28FrostbyghteI find I'm very addicted to adding addons
16:02.31FrostbyghteI finally stopped
16:02.35renchapshould i add it to Notes (as the show notifies" or Noteshare (notes cant use this option)
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16:02.57Sarozrenchap, ok, will add
16:03.01Frostbyghtethe only thing I have popup a crash message is Cartagrapher on the uh professions thing
16:03.03TecnoBratI cant wait for the profiling stuff in 2.1.0
16:03.08renchapi can add it
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16:03.20renchapbut i dont know where i should add this option ^^
16:03.22doktoreashi to all
16:03.36SarozI'll do it renchap :p
16:03.56renchapand the Show Notifies options disturbs me... should be in noteshare options imo
16:04.04renchapbut it is used in Notes :/
16:04.22Sarozyea
16:04.26Sarozthe notes one is annoying
16:04.31Sarozcause it shows all notes incomming
16:04.39Sarozjust add one that only shows successfull notes
16:04.49renchapis the note sharing useful in Notes ?
16:05.26Sarozwell
16:05.32renchapthe best way to go seems to be removing this in Notes
16:05.36Saroznoteshare is just injecting notes into Notes
16:05.39renchapand add Noteshare in Cartographer
16:05.45SarozNotes handles the sending and receiving notes
16:05.46Sarozso
16:05.57SarozNoteshare just sends a note when you add a new note
16:06.02Saroziirc
16:06.23renchaphmmm
16:07.17renchapmaybe the range check should be added to Notes
16:07.36renchapand the notify function handled by Notes
16:08.32CIA-1103ammo * r31779 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: fix the castbars for wacky units not bouncing all over the place
16:08.42Sarozhrrrrm
16:08.47Saroznotes does a range check
16:08.48Sarozwell
16:08.54Sarozit checks if there is a note on the exact same coords
16:09.01Saroznoteshare checks if it's within 5 yards
16:09.02Mikkyeah, that's the problem
16:09.05Sarozbut that's not enough
16:09.09Sarozit needs to be like 10
16:09.12Sarozyards
16:09.24Sarozand then you need to clean up the dup nodes
16:09.33renchapi have a silver mine and a copper mine at the samecoords
16:09.39renchapand i only see the silver one
16:09.44Sarozhrrrm
16:09.54Sarozit should show both
16:09.59Sarozin tooltip
16:10.03Saroznot on minimap
16:10.22renchap:/
16:10.42renchapbtw, we need to rewrite the sharing code i think
16:10.45MikkWell, Cartographer_Mining should simply know that silver is a rare spawn in copper nodes and simply just not tag it as silver
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16:11.05renchapMikk: and adding a "Silver rate"
16:11.15Sarozsharing code is okay
16:11.27MikkI refuse to believe that there's an individual rate per vein
16:11.31MikkHas to be global
16:11.40renchapbut tin veins can become copper
16:11.51MikkOr at least per-zone
16:11.52renchapor silver
16:12.50renchapSaroz: the sharing code ok, but not the checks/options/messages/...
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16:13.15Sarozhrrm
16:13.17Sarozguess not
16:13.19Sarozit works though
16:13.25Sarozgonna set the range check to 10 yards
16:14.00renchapor maybe add the options in Sharenotes menu too
16:15.11Sarozso people want my ugly cleanup module?
16:17.47Mikkhell yeah
16:17.56Mikkwhen does it run the cleanup? on startup?
16:18.07Sarozwhen you click in the menu
16:18.22Mikkjust make it run on cleanup tbfh
16:18.26Mikkerr
16:18.27Mikkstartup
16:18.29Saroztakes a while
16:18.30Sarozto run
16:18.32Mikktrue
16:18.32Sarozon all zones
16:18.34Mikkok nvm
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16:18.52renchapdoes it display how many notes removed ?
16:18.52Mikki still want it tho =)
16:19.34Sarozno it displays which nodes it removes, feel free to add a counter
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16:20.42Industrialsylvanaar: nice suggesion on the embeds
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16:23.14CIA-1103ammo * r31780 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: disabling and enabling the castbar works for wacky units. layout is updated properly as well for all units.
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16:26.06Sarozhrm
16:26.08Sarozhave a problem
16:26.22Sarozwhen I loot IterateNearbyNotes() and DeleteNote() it doesnt remove it from the IterateNearbyNotes()
16:26.27Sarozso I have to respin the loop
16:28.58Sarozgonna be ugly
16:29.16[dRaCo]does pitbull work with click2cast?
16:30.27FISKER_QRAEP
16:30.34renchap[dRaCo]: yes
16:33.39[dRaCo]great
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16:36.09CIA-1103kemayo * r31781 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Comments/Comments.lua:
16:36.09CIA-11FuBar_QuestsFu:
16:36.09CIA-11- Comments, fix bug in checking for LightHeaded's presence.
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16:36.26jtlimHmm.. so there is a patch!
16:36.45Sarozwhen
16:36.47Sarozwhere
16:36.50jtlimlog on now
16:36.54jtlimYou'll get the blizzard downloader
16:37.04jtlimto 2.0.12.6546
16:37.13Sarozmeh
16:37.17SarozEu ftw
16:37.35hastejtlim: pastey patch notes :)
16:37.44jtlimonce I get any response out of the damn tracker
16:38.01jtlimtrying to download atm :)
16:39.48Roartindon3.22MB Win32, 5.11MB OSX patches
16:39.55Roartindonplease be respawn times :P
16:40.22TecnoBratthey fixed some osx bug
16:40.49Sarozok, watch me fuck this up
16:41.03Sarozmeeeh
16:41.06SarozError: trunk/Cleanup.lua : svn:eol-style is not set  
16:41.39Roartindonsvn propset svn:eol-style native Cleanup.lua
16:41.50SarozHow can I do that when I dont even have it imported -.-
16:41.57sergiohaste: http://pastey.net/10164
16:42.06hastethanks
16:42.38CIA-1103saroz * r31782 10Cartographer_Cleanup/: Cartographer_Cleanup: Created folder remotely
16:42.43moonsorrowWhen I switch a target in pitbull, the color update of the bars is sometimes not instant, is this a bug or intended (maybe the performance is better or whatever)?
16:42.57sergioi hope 2.1 goes to ptr soon
16:43.05RoartindonHmm.. so no real fixes
16:43.16renchapmoonsorrow: bug with barfader
16:43.24RoartindonAnd why would you attempt the gauntlet after path is killed anyway?
16:43.46moonsorrowthat would be my second guess :)
16:43.49kenlyricisn't that the only way out?
16:43.56SarozRoartindon, cant set props without it being imported
16:44.02sergiono there's a portal after the last boss
16:44.06RoartindonSaroz, sorry, didn't realise it wasn't imported yet :)
16:44.14Sarozso what to do -.-
16:44.14kenlyrichmmmm... isn't it a wipe error?
16:44.41HjalteRoartindon, I guess they fixed it because if you killed Path but everyone died, the elevator would be closed.
16:44.41kenlyriclike, if you wipe you can't get back to the boss?
16:44.41Roartindonah, I see
16:44.42nevcairielSaroz: add the file, then set the props, then commit.
16:44.49Roartindonnev: it's initial import tho
16:44.50Sarozhave to check out the directory then
16:44.52Saroztsk
16:44.55nevcairielexport the empty dir then
16:44.57nevcairiel:)
16:45.03nevcairielexport=checkout
16:45.07Sarozno
16:45.13Sarozexport = checkout with no SVN props
16:45.17Roartindonyeah, I imported an empty dir first, then added all the files and set props
16:45.36Roartindon(When I put in my last files)
16:45.42nevcairieli know that saroz, mine was just replacement of words in my sentence :p
16:45.44Saroz:)
16:45.48FISKER_Qwtfux!
16:45.51Sarozdoing it the hard way then
16:45.52FISKER_Q[Ammo] :(
16:45.57FISKER_QI got castbar on target's target
16:47.15kergothSaroz: yes, you can set props without importing it, if you followed the instructions on the wiki for setting up autoprops, it'll set them automatically as soon as you svn add.
16:47.33kergothSaroz: you know, the instructions linked to by the svn pre commit error message that you no doubt received.
16:47.43SarozI don't read error messages
16:47.55CIA-1103saroz * r31783 10Cartographer_Cleanup/ (Cartographer_Cleanup.toc Cleanup.lua): Cartographer_Cleanup: Cleans duplicate cartographer notes
16:47.55kergoththen i suggest you be less blind in the future
16:48.00Saroz:)
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16:48.56kergothhmmm
16:49.00hypetechanybody have a link where I can download today's patch manually? the downloader isn't working for me
16:49.16Chomperstodays patch?
16:49.30hypetechit's patching right now
16:49.34Chompers:o
16:49.37hypetech2.0.12.6546
16:49.38Chompersptr or live?
16:49.42hypetechlive
16:49.44hypetechI dont' play ptr
16:49.45FISKER_Qhttp://a.wirebrain.de/wow/
16:49.46nekohhttp://www.a.wirebrain.de/wow/
16:49.49FISKER_QHAH
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16:49.50FISKER_Qi was first
16:49.52FISKER_Qroar
16:49.53nekoh8[
16:50.09hypetechhehe
16:50.11Mikkalways: www.wowwiki.com/patch_mirrors
16:50.17RoartindonAmmo: Haven't tested it yet (can't log on yet), but UNIT_SPELLCAST_START, frame.castBar:SetValue looks like it should be: frame.castBar:SetValue(GetTime())
16:50.19Chompersany notes for it?
16:50.21FISKER_Qnah
16:50.26FISKER_Qwowwiki is for n00bs
16:50.27FISKER_Qhehe Kirkburn
16:50.27FISKER_QHEHE
16:50.35NeoTronso the second real boss in Heroic Mechanar is a bitch
16:50.42NeoTronentirely random luck based
16:50.44MikkIt's a list of patch mirrors, FISKER_Q
16:50.56_neuron_NeoTron, ... that aint luck based
16:50.59FISKER_Qi know
16:51.02_neuron_kill last boss first and kite it to the last boss
16:51.02NeoTronyes it is
16:51.13Mikk_neuron_ knows what he's talking about :>
16:51.13FISKER_Q1 link better than a lot of link + TL;DR
16:51.16NeoTronerr. that's assbackwards
16:51.16xyuype, makes it trivial
16:51.20KirkburnDeath to the FISKER_Q! Death to the FISKER_Q!
16:51.20xyukite that shit to the other room
16:51.23NeoTronif it requires that, it's a broken encounter
16:51.29_neuron_it doesn't require it
16:51.31Mikkthe adds run a hell of a lot slower than her :>
16:51.33_neuron_it just makes it a friggin lot easier
16:51.40Mikkn tbh it's prolly unintended
16:51.46NeoTronit's still a lame luckbased encounter
16:51.51Mikkif you do the encounter the "right" way, yeah, totally luck based
16:51.52_neuron_it aint luckbased
16:51.56_neuron_it's l2kite based :P
16:52.09KirkburnMikk, I've already told FISKER_Q I'm going to visit him in the night and kick his ass :)
16:52.10Mikkif you have two healers and gets adds on both, you're basically toast
16:52.17NeoTronkiting is almost as bad as kiting broodlord to vael's room
16:52.21RoartindonMikk: Get your tank to taunt one?
16:52.24Mikkunless you feel like taunting
16:52.25Mikkyeah
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16:52.30xyuor bubble :D
16:52.36_neuron_why would you kite broodlord at all :p
16:52.38Mikkbut then you get pwnd by disorient + hellfire combos
16:52.42FISKER_QI canot die
16:52.43NeoTronit would be fine fi they still changed targets
16:52.43_neuron_we never had that much trouble with him
16:52.48FISKER_Qi am not an individual
16:52.49FISKER_QI am an idea
16:52.56FISKER_Qand ideas are bulletproof
16:53.01NeoTron_neuron_: me neither but epople did
16:53.14RoartindonI finally bothered with heroic SH today; that was fun
16:53.23NeoTronavoiding the respawns of the drakes I suppose
16:53.33NeoTronRoartindon: if by fun you mean.. painful?
16:53.47RoartindonNeo, nah seemed easyish
16:53.51Roartindoncompleted the whole thing in under an hour
16:53.55Roartindon5 badges for an hour
16:53.57KirkburnFISKER_Q, we'll see, we'll see
16:54.09NeoTronRoartindon: 3 mages, tank and a healer?
16:54.19RoartindonMage, rogue, druid, warrior, paladin
16:54.22FISKER_Qnahuh
16:54.32KirkburnYuhuh!
16:54.34Prophpatch!
16:54.38NeoTronah. CC, CC, tank tank tank
16:54.39hypetechso I patched...and now I can't connect :(
16:54.39NeoTronno wonder
16:54.41xyufunny
16:54.44xyui had that same group for SH
16:54.51Prophtracker isn't updating for me here
16:54.53xyuand it went fast as hell too
16:55.03RoartindonCC, CC, tank, tank, non-squishy healer :)
16:55.03FISKER_Qkite it to vaelastrasz room
16:55.04Prophhypetech do u have the patch for dl somewhere??
16:55.16hypetechya, they just linked it for me
16:55.23FISKER_Qhttp://a.wirebrain.de/wow/
16:55.25hypetechhttp://a.wirebrain.de/wow/
16:55.26Prophthanks
16:55.45Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors bitches
16:56.00FISKER_Qnooooo
16:56.08Kirkburnaaaayyyeeee
16:56.19FISKER_Qwowwiki supports goldfarmers!
16:56.31Kirkburnuhh, err
16:56.39Mikkbloody ads >.<
16:56.58Mikkthen again i just filter out ads all the time so i never see any of that crud :>
16:57.02xyuGold farmers are your friend!
16:57.21FISKER_Qoh i thought you didn't have goldfarmer ads :(
16:57.40Mikkwell... wowwiki has google ads
16:58.36hypetechah, realms are still down for another hour or so :(
16:58.50NeoTronironically wowwiki is down too :P
16:59.01FISKER_Qhah
16:59.06Mikkwow related sites always take a hit when the servers are down
16:59.13Mikkeveryone needs to get their wow fix from somewhere else :>
16:59.17HjalteIceroth, ping
16:59.27IcerothO.o
16:59.40FISKER_QAtleast wowwiki isn't a faggery daggery doo encyclopedic company
16:59.49HjalteIceroth, the casting bar lag indicator in Icehud, how is it supposed to work? And what does the slider mean? :)
17:00.02Icerothslider is only alpha
17:00.04Mikkobtw Iceroth, did you make a plugin api for icehud yet? I still want to put in an SnD bar :>
17:00.44Icerothlag indicator merely means that it should be safe to "cancel" the cast when your cast bar enters the "lag area" and start cast new cast
17:00.45[dRaCo]is there a way to change the font size pitbull uses?
17:00.58Icerothserver won't catch the interrupt event before the cast is actually off
17:01.11hypetechIceroth: that's a great idea
17:01.23kenlyricgoldfarmers help us all out by bring prices way way down on the stuff we use everyday, while jacking the price way way up on stupid purple shit.
17:01.43HjalteIceroth, the problem is that i never see a lag area. Are you supposed to have a very high ping before you see it or?
17:01.53IcerothMikk, icehud development is kinda frozen atm, i'm too damn busy these days.. i have changes in my local copy waiting to be polished and published but damn i ain't got time
17:01.55hypetechCheck my new UI out... http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/WoWScrnShot_032307_023527-1.jpg
17:02.24IcerothHjalte, depending on your cast length and connection you see it or don't see it much... 200ms ping and 2s cast should make it quite noticeable
17:02.34Roartindonhyptetech: what casting bar is that?
17:02.45hypetechRoartindon: eCastingBar
17:02.55RoartindonYou have an 81ms ping
17:03.01RoartindonYou don't really need to worry about the latency
17:03.13hypetechlol
17:03.14HjalteIceroth, I see it now. But only when i put my camera to the sky.. Is it possible to have an option to make it clearer?
17:03.16hypetechthat's a good day
17:03.22hypetechnormal latency is around 200 :(
17:03.26Roartindonhypetech: otherwise, check out RapidCast
17:03.33Icerothtry the alpha setting :)
17:03.36RoartindonI wrote it becacuse I play from Australia, with typically ~400+ latency
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17:03.54Roartindonand casting 3.4sec fireballs or worse, 1.9sec scorches sucks
17:03.54[dRaCo]and is there an xp/rep-bar for pitbull?
17:04.02Roartindondraco: Ammo is working on it
17:04.04HjalteRoartindon, does Rapidcast work with Icehud or pitbull castbars?
17:04.10[dRaCo]ok, thx
17:04.24RoartindonHjalte: It will work with Pitbull sometime soon; ammo added a hook in there for me a few hours ago
17:04.28kergothdamnit, after applying today's patch, wow under cedega goes boom
17:04.35RoartindonIt works with aguf's castbar, eCastingBar, oCB, CBRipoff atm
17:05.23HjalteRoartindon, and how i understand it, it adjusts the castbar, not showing the lag visually like some other lag-addons?
17:05.28hypetechRoartindon, so what is rapidcast?
17:05.32[A]v[P]anyone knows under which consumable category does underspore pod goes?
17:05.47RoartindonIt shows it visually by adjusting the castbar
17:05.52Roartindonie. if you cast scorch with a 0.5sec latency
17:05.59Roartindonthe castbar will start 1/3rd of the way through
17:06.17Roartindonso that the end of the castbar coincides with when you can do something else safely
17:07.02sergiowould 250-300ping be overkill for something like that
17:07.05CIA-1103mikk * r31784 10IgnoreMore/IgnoreMore.toc: IgnoreMore: Add acewiki toc tags
17:07.17Roartindonsergio: if you're a primary dps class, I'd recommend using it
17:07.39sergioi'm a hunter and I notice problems with my shot weaves a lot
17:07.59xyuI would love a client side haxor for "fake 0 latency".  Like you client doesn't lag but the server stays the same.  
17:08.07xyulike UO had
17:08.29Roartindonxyu: if only :)
17:08.35xyuya know!
17:08.39sergioi'm sorta curious if wow has a buffer like quake3 had that can be made to 0
17:08.42xyuor at least a spell queue ...at LEAST!
17:08.46RoartindonUO was designed to be played on modems, so they figured that stuff was important I guess :)
17:08.51xyulike /timenudge?  
17:08.55sergioyea
17:08.58HjalteI'm still waiting for a castbar like the ag_uf one showing me the name of my target :( Does anyone know of a such?
17:09.20CIA-1103tjourney * r31785 10NielasAran/: NielasAran: initial commit
17:09.33sergiocall me crazy but I've seen the name in my pitbull cast bar or some text
17:09.35kergothwhy doesnt anyone ever put a description in the first commit?
17:09.45RoartindonProbably because it's an empty directory :)
17:10.02sergioisn't that shade of aran's name
17:10.19shieldbyep
17:10.19kergothodd.  they dont need to add it to svn that way.  they can do an 'import'
17:10.26RoartindonMaybe it auto-plays that chant when you're engagd in battle!
17:10.35sergiohaha
17:11.08[Ammo]import doesn't work from tortoise with properties
17:11.14[Ammo]so you need a dir first
17:12.52CIA-1103aleksander * r31786 10PitBull_RangeCheck/PitBull_RangeCheck.lua:
17:12.52CIA-11PitBull_RangeCheck:
17:12.52CIA-11- Should work now ;)
17:14.05sergioso is SCavern worth doing for a guild that just killed gruul
17:14.14hypetechscavern?
17:14.18kergoth[Ammo]: hm?  if you have autoprops setup, then an import will work fine.  if it doesnt, tortoise is broken.
17:14.20Roartindonserpentshrine cavern
17:14.26Roartindonmagtheridon?
17:14.26kergoth[Ammo]: you dont need to set properties manually.
17:14.29hypetechya, that's not up yet though is it?
17:14.33sergiono not yet
17:14.45sergiohe's sorta next on our list
17:14.45Roartindonyour tanks got resist gear?
17:14.52sergiowe're going to work on that today
17:14.57Roartindonget magtheridon, and build up resist gear :)
17:15.06shieldball you need is NR! do it the risky way! ;)
17:15.22kenlyricDIAF blizzard and your resist crap.
17:15.33sergioI could have sworn someone said no more resist fights
17:15.37sergiobut maybe I was just dreaming
17:15.47RoartindonThey also said fear not being a major mechanic or something
17:15.47kenlyricno.
17:16.04PProvost_Hey ckknight, got a sec for a quick PitBull layout question? I'm working on one...
17:16.05kenlyricThey said "it was a bad idea to put resist gear on the bosses you need resist gear for"
17:16.30sergiotrue i remember that
17:16.39shieldbyeah, like the whole 'need NR for huhuran and half of it is in late AQ or doesn't really exist yet' deal
17:16.58sergioneed to kill us some dragons again
17:17.00Roartindonshieldb - I think they expected people to farm the green dragons for AQ40
17:17.03sergiosince half my guild rerolled
17:17.03Roartindonbut very few people did
17:17.06shieldbnaxx did a good job with the FrR for sapphiron because all of it was beforehand
17:17.22shieldbRoartindon, I'm not sure how it was on your server but that was pretty miserable where I was at
17:17.29Roartindonsergio: For fun (well, cash actually), we 5 manned azuregos, emeriss, ysondre, lethon and onyxia last week
17:17.35Roartindonand we 7 manned taerar
17:17.43kenlyricbut resist gear is just dumb.
17:17.46sergioRoartindon: yeah I was talking about that with someone earlier today
17:17.47Roartindoneach of them was worth in the vicinity of 30g each
17:17.50sergioit's a shit ton of gold if you 5man
17:17.53Roartindon30g each player
17:18.00Roartindononyxia took 21 minutes
17:18.01shieldbthere are quite a number of progression oriented guilds on the server so it was tough to be able to get a kill on any of them
17:18.02kenlyrickeys are dumb, resist gear is dumb, consumables are dumb.
17:18.04Roartindonysondre is a joke tho
17:18.23RoartindonWhen you 5 man ysondre, the druid spawns every 25-ish percent... there are TWO of them.. not the dozen there used to be
17:18.27kenlyricprogression through instances should happen naturally with acquirement of useful gear.
17:18.30sergiodid you read the elixirs and flasks post
17:18.31RoartindonTake a shaman tho, the sleep clouds are invisible still
17:18.31Phatrikhttp://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/Azmodanrom/post-2-1175326169.jpg , I lol'd
17:18.46kenlyricsergio: yeah, I read it. I'll believe it when I see it.
17:18.59sergioi hate when they announce something so vague
17:19.05kenlyricI currently only flask in karazhan. It's cheaper than all the shit elixirs :)
17:19.07sergiojust shut up blizzard until you have something for us
17:19.30sergiokenlyric: that's probably true and I never thought of it that way
17:19.50Oridanhttp://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/Ilold.jpg
17:20.09kenlyricI take like 3 elixirs just for mana regen, and one that provides a bit of extra healing. The flask of mighty restoration by itself blows all of them out of the water.
17:20.24kenlyricOf ocurse, I could take the flask *and* the elixirs... which I have done too.
17:20.41sergioyeah. relentless assult is pretty easy to make but I usually keep my pots on wipes with FD
17:20.46RoartindonI've  still got a couple of stacks of flasks that we made for naxx pre-tbc....
17:20.51kenlyricsergio: that helps.
17:20.55Oridan~seen Nymbia
17:21.25purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-138-197.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 41m 9s ago, saying: 'yeah'.
17:21.25kenlyricone night I used 28 elixiris.
17:21.25kenlyricin the time of 1 flask.
17:21.26sergiothe downside to a hunter is buying 45s stacks of good ammo
17:21.26sergiofor new fights
17:21.27xyubecause your repair bills are so high
17:21.29xyuFU hunters
17:21.43sergiohey i'm not one of those pussies that FD at the first sign of trouble
17:21.49kenlyricoh, they are in plenty of fights these days.
17:22.27Oridanhrm FD, its great, but i'd say 50% of time i fd, i leave it too late, and die from dots or "that last hit"
17:22.36xyuI DI people now just to get out of a repair bill, even if it's just the warrior left.
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17:22.48Oridanimo, every hunter should have engineering, cables ftw
17:22.48sergioi just swap my gear out now but yeah you still get fucked on pots
17:23.00sergioI have skinning/LW for the gear
17:23.09sergioit's too good for me right now
17:23.11sergioI've thought about switching but I can't
17:23.19hypetechLW won't help much when you're wearing mail :p
17:23.25sergiosure it will
17:23.31sergiohave you seen the ebon netherscale stuff?
17:23.34sergioit's decent for now
17:23.39sergiobeats wearing blues
17:23.40ag`boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing
17:24.09sergioboing is what penises do
17:24.52sergiothough, as said engineering is a top priority or something like that to fix
17:24.56kenlyricsergio: unless the blues are better than the purples
17:25.01sergioit's pretty worthless aside for ressing people
17:25.07kenlyricre: half of karazhan loot
17:25.21Oridanohh yeah, i dont use anything in eng'n other than cables, oh, and the mining helmet
17:25.36sergiotrue
17:25.38kenlyricengineering would a far more useful profession if jumper cables didn't fail and you could count on them.
17:25.50sergioi thought the XL were pretty good
17:25.57xyuyeah and did you hear about all that alchemy change?  
17:26.02xyuYet nothing on engineering
17:26.07hypetechwhat alchemy change? 0.o
17:26.08xyualchemists always have the good times :(
17:26.19Oridanyeah, engineering is for people who already have chars with every other profession :D
17:26.20xyuin the things to come, huge alchemy changes supposedly
17:26.29shieldbkenlyric, engineering would be a far more useful profession if it forced you to change it to alchemy, tailoring, or blacksmithing on login :P
17:26.37xyuNo specifics
17:26.42MoonWolfxyu, want to bet its simply a nerf to the amount of pots someone would buy off of an alchemist ?
17:26.51FISKER_Qexcuse me wtf r u doin xyu?
17:26.51MoonWolfthey want to reduce pot dependency.
17:26.53MoonWolftherefor a nerf.
17:27.12xyuThey want to reduce farming dependancy
17:27.14xyuto make the pots
17:27.22xyuand FISKER_Q, i'm not sure i follow you.
17:27.31FISKER_Q(19:22:41) <xyu> I DI people now just to get out of a repair bill, even if it's just the warrior left.
17:27.32sergiofrom the wording I understood they want elixirs and flasks to be part of the end game but want to reduce how much is costs
17:27.34FISKER_Qblasphemy
17:27.43xyuhaha
17:27.47sergiolol
17:28.51xyuit's just i rarely get to use it :(
17:28.53sergiois the mining hat really good or so/so
17:29.10MoonWolfso/so
17:30.20sergioI could make bank on gathering professions I think if I switched
17:30.20sergiowith an epic flying mount
17:30.21[Ammo]kergoth: I set them manually all the time
17:30.21kenlyricsergio: epic mount + mining + herbalism = CASH
17:30.22[Ammo]dunno how to set up autoprops
17:30.51[Ammo]sigh at slowass commits
17:31.00sergiokenlyric: yeah it's so tempting
17:31.03sergioI loathe skinning
17:31.17sergiohey i killed a level 70 beasts look a scrap
17:31.27sergiothe only good place to go is BM and that isn't even that great
17:31.32CIA-1103ammo * r31787 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: fix healthbar size with manabar hidden and castbar shown
17:31.37kenlyricsince I rerolled shortly before the xpac, I was already skinning/herb to level, so I just switched to mining when I got my epic flying mount (also switched from shadow to holy then.
17:31.56sergioherbs alone are priceless to me right now
17:31.59kenlyricskinning is awesome when you are levelling. You kill sooo many beasts.
17:32.08sergioi spend a lot of time/gold trying to get stuff
17:32.14kenlyriconce you stop doing quests though, what's the point?
17:32.27sergiowell right now I can sell cobra scales regularly if i want to
17:32.32sergioor heavy knothide
17:32.39sergioit's just a pain to farm compared to picking up herbs
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17:32.46sergioand I waste ammo
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17:32.48kenlyricyeah, but do you have any reason to kill beasts except to get thier skins?
17:32.54sergionot really
17:33.02kenlyricif you could skin elementals it might be worth it :)
17:33.06sergiohaha
17:33.10sergiogather their essence
17:33.18kenlyricherbalism is definitely nice than mining... you gather one node so much faster.
17:33.30sergioi might switch today
17:33.31CIA-1103tjourney * r31788 10NielasAran/ (6 files): NielasAran: File Upload
17:33.32sergioi feel motivated
17:33.41kenlyricwhat are you now?
17:33.45sergioskinning/lw
17:33.55kenlyricoh god yes, switch today.
17:34.00sergioi'll keep lw for the items
17:34.04sergiountil i can find better ones
17:34.26HjalteDoes anyone know, if i can still use my primal mooncloth set, if i ditch tailoring?
17:34.36sergioif you don't unequip it i assume so
17:34.55sergiothat's what they tell me
17:34.56shieldbHjalte, does the set say "Requires mooncloth specialization" or somesuch on it? (not the set bonus)
17:35.22kenlyricI don't see that.
17:35.22hypetechshieldb it does
17:35.26hypetechit does lol
17:35.31hypetechhttp://www.thottbot.com/i21875
17:35.40kenlyricwonder why it doesn'ts how up on wowhead
17:35.49sergiois there a 28 slot herb bag
17:35.51Hjalteshieldb, yeah it does, but i mean, with blacksmithing i think you are allowed to use the weapons you use.
17:35.54kenlyricoh, I see now
17:35.54sergioor just the old cenarion one
17:36.28shieldbHjalte, test it on the ptr imo
17:36.51Hjalteshieldb, good idea!
17:38.44RoartindonAmmo - you there?
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17:40.41[Ammo]am now
17:40.45Roartindonline 186 of CastBar.lua I think is wrong
17:40.50[Ammo]yeah I was on it :p
17:40.53Roartindoncool
17:43.09[Ammo]should just be a setvalue of gettime
17:43.14RoartindonYeah
17:43.45Mikmaass booty ass
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17:46.02Oridanwho's working on PitBull atm ?
17:46.36hArlnot me
17:47.07Silviu-[Ammo], kemayo, ckknight
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17:47.52CIA-1103ammo * r31789 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: fix castbar for normal casts
17:48.00Oridanaha
17:48.09hypetechWish they would give better rewards for Aldor/Scryer rep
17:48.22hypetechOnly reason to go exalted is for a little better shoulder chant
17:48.26Oridan[Ammo]> targetstarget, its got a castbar, but the castbar isnt customisable
17:49.07Oridan[Ammo]> i mean, i cant turn it off (its got a funny glitch, when its casting theres an inverted castbar flickering backward at the same time
17:49.31RoartindonOridan: the latest commit should fix some of hte flickering problems
17:49.35kenlyrichypetech: and, the enchants sort merge together at exalted anyway.
17:49.36RoartindonHopefully all of them :)
17:49.45Oridan<3 thx
17:50.01RoartindonNot sure about the cutomizable bit tho
17:50.26Oridanits just on the dewdrop, most the other frames have a "disable cast bar" option, but the targettarget doesnt
17:50.55Roartindonyeah, originally, a lot of frames didn't support castbars
17:51.07RoartindonHe added support for tot/tof/tott/etc castbars within the last 4 hours
17:51.11Oridanyeah, due to the lack of events or something
17:51.14Roartindonso I expect there are some loose ends to tie up
17:51.41Oridanyeah, i noticed the chat about it earlier :) kinda why i'm trying to break it :D
17:52.36Oridanummm, has there been a major patch or somthing? the server has gone pretty slow
17:53.11kenlyricthe whole interweb seems kinda slow today.
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17:58.47OridanRoartindon> just to say, @ r31780 the cast bar option i mentioned has been implimented, but the flickering still exists, i'll test it with r31789 and report back if its still doing it :)
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18:01.17Funkeh`hi all
18:01.49Oridanlo
18:02.37renchapnice bug with pitbull
18:02.46renchapi hade the manabar of my totot
18:02.54renchapand my screen gets all grey
18:03.00renchapwith only pitbull texts
18:03.08shieldbFunkeh`, did the broadcasting to raid/party work for you?
18:03.18Funkeh`i have not tried it yet
18:03.19renchaps/hade/hide
18:03.22shieldbahh
18:03.58CIA-1103roartindon * r31790 10RapidCast/ (RapidCast.lua RapidCast.toc): RapidCast: Added support for PitBull casting bars
18:05.13Oridanoh btw, [Ammo] / ckknight, i love the configuration mode in PitBull, imba job, would love to see raid configurable in groups or with relative positions somehow tho,, 40 frames to move around is a bit time consuming :D
18:06.11RoartindonOridan: I'll have  alook at it
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18:11.10Industrialhttp://www.glumbert.com/media/supermarket
18:11.10Roartindonoridan: r31789 seems to be working fine for me
18:11.10kenlyricbooerns!
18:11.10kenlyricextended maint on a patch that supposedly only fixed six things? Expect surprises :)
18:11.10Oridanahh you working on it too Roartindon?
18:11.10Oridanniceness :D
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18:11.11RoartindonOridan: Not really working on it; but wrote the original agUnitFrames casting bar code, so was going to try and help spot mistakes :)
18:11.11AmadeoWhat's RapidCast? :)
18:11.11AmadeoI'm so bad at keeping up with addons
18:11.11IndustrialAmadeo: counts for lag in the castingbar
18:12.06Amadeooh, nice
18:12.06AmadeoI seem to be able to account for that on the fly, I guess it's from years of online FPS gaming :P
18:12.07AmadeoI'd like to see it though
18:12.22AmadeoI was stuck on dialup for so long when everyone else had broadband
18:12.38AmadeoSo I had to learn how to railgun with a 400-500ms ping :P
18:12.57kenlyricomg... FPS over dialup?
18:12.59kenlyricI'd die.
18:13.07AmadeoYeah, at one point :(
18:13.27AmadeoI was one zip code number away from having Cable for about 5 years
18:13.57AmadeoI had Comcast@Home before Comcast took over completely
18:14.01Kaeltenanyone able to tell me if this is correct syntax for css #kBox, #kIBox {
18:14.09Kaeltenor is it #kBox, kIBox {
18:14.11Kaelten?
18:14.18kenlyricman. I had dialup at home for a little way in 2000, but didn't really game then. All the time before and after that, I gamed at school mostly.
18:14.19renchapwhat do you want to do ?
18:14.29kenlyricI spent one week with wow at my mom's house over dialup... nightmare.
18:15.13CIA-1103roartindon * r31791 10RapidCast/RapidCast.lua: RapidCast: Added a safety check for adjusting PitBull casting bars in case the frame/castData aren't valid
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18:15.44AmadeoDialup sucks for any "PvP" type game, I don't care what genre it is...I remember when the majority of the US still had dialup and a select few had cable...so many people would argue that ping meant nothing...pfft :P
18:15.56shieldbKaelten, if you're talking having arbitrary style definitions I think you're looking for ".something, .somethingelse, .something3 {"
18:16.08shieldbif you're using style="something" later on
18:16.09kenlyricAmadeo: such a lie.
18:16.11StephmwAmadeo: bah, quake1 with dialup was cool... exciting even :)
18:16.25AmadeoStephmw: That's because everyone had dialup then!
18:16.25Kaeltenshieldb: no these are ids
18:16.28kenlyricI couldn't completely own most people in quake, even more skilled players.
18:16.38kenlyricerrr, could
18:17.09kenlyricI went from playing doom2 over LAN to quake over ethernet. Never made that in-between leap to dialup gaming.
18:17.10AmadeoI have to brag and say I was pretty awesome at Quake in my day :P I really miss good FPS games that had the same intense DM
18:17.36sergioqw 4 lif
18:17.37sergioe
18:17.43kenlyricyeah, I loved the insanely small rooms of quake 1
18:17.46Oridanyeah, i got quite reasonable at UT InstaGib
18:18.06deltronDWANGO was neato
18:18.07Amadeokenlyric: Actually, that's a good point...I think as the maps got larger, I started to get worse at FPS games, haha
18:18.09shieldbKaelten, #id1, #id2, #id3 { then
18:18.15kenlyricI hate all these new games were you playing in an obviously fabricated arena environment.
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18:18.40kenlyricIn quake, you were playing in a level... that had a purpose, that you just happened to be DMing in .
18:19.09Mikmalots of asses
18:19.20CIA-1103roartindon * r31792 10RapidCast/RapidCast.lua: RapidCast: Turned down the default cast time padding from 100ms to 50ms.
18:19.22kenlyricthough, I still have to say that Enemy Territory was the best there ever was.
18:19.38AmadeoI'm hoping TF2 and Quake Wars: Enemy Territory is going to bring me back
18:20.24kenlyrichalf the fun of ET was the settings. I hope QW makes them equally interesting.
18:20.35shieldbyou could do #id1, table { if you wanted to define the id 'id1' and default table styles the same, but you'd need to do #id1, #table { if you wanted them to be ids
18:21.04kenlyricplus, the fact that it was free made it have a much more interesting playerbase.
18:21.09FISKER_Qthis is my roar face
18:21.32AmadeoFree = Best
18:21.36Amadeo:D
18:21.56shieldbwell, sometimes you do get what you pay for ;)
18:22.03FISKER_QThe whole RPG/FPS thing was genius
18:22.07FISKER_Qatleast in execution
18:23.03Oridanhrm, is there anything like GetItemInfo() which will give info about whether an item is conjoured or not ?
18:23.30Oridanlike mage water/food and healthstones, mana stones and stuff
18:23.58Oridanunfortunately, GetItemInfo's item type and subtype both return just Consumable
18:24.02sbuold UT AS > * :/
18:24.04Oridanwhich is a bit frustrating
18:24.51Amadeoshieldb: I'm still waiting for WoW to deliver!
18:25.36Oridanhrm, perhaps i can use PT3
18:26.17kenlyricWoW needs real engineers, like ET had.
18:26.49kenlyricI have no idea how yoou'd balance a fight to include an engineer, but that would be awesome.
18:26.54OridanET phone home: that was some uber equipment
18:30.39kenlyricnice going ordan, you broke the channel by calling ET.
18:30.59kenlyricwe're probably being routed through proxima
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18:32.28Oridandamn, last time i called him, it all went smoothly
18:33.55ckknightNightHawkTheSane: no, there's no way to set the base frame's height/width inside the layout.
18:34.26ckknightSaroz: pong
18:35.05ckknightPProvost__: pong
18:35.13[Ammo]lots of pinging by ckk :[p
18:35.27moonsorrowckknight: I added a slider to change the combatfont height, interested?
18:35.28sergiorevv: fps games   I don't miss them at all for some reason
18:35.30kenlyricso, how do you guys see pings from several hours ago?
18:35.34sergiore not revv
18:35.42ckknightOridan: it's being worked on
18:35.45[Ammo]moonsorrow: add it please
18:35.52xyunooo my server is an extended maint. one :(
18:35.54ckknightmoonsorrow: I'd figure it should be more of a font size thing.
18:36.00ag`kenlyric: long backlog and highlighted lines? :P
18:36.03kenlyricsergio: oh man, I still love 'em. I like the half-life 2 deathmatch stuff, because I can throw things at people and shoot them.
18:36.04[Ammo]ckknight: that's what he means
18:36.08ckknighti.e. not just height, but overall scale
18:36.12moonsorrowoh yeah
18:36.13ckknightif you have that, commit
18:36.13kenlyricag`: so you just scroll.
18:36.16moonsorrownot just height :P
18:36.28kenlyricone bad thing about gaim, it sucks at highlighting.
18:36.29sergioI found that once cs became popular it went down hill for me
18:36.37ag`kenlyric: mm yeah, I'll find a highlighted line in 1 sec
18:36.37kenlyricCS... zzzzz
18:36.43kenlyricI never could get into that.
18:36.47sergioi tried to
18:36.54sergiobut i never could just sit around in a match
18:37.01sergioi need to be proactive
18:37.02kenlyricI don't care about the goddamn hostages.
18:37.09renchapkenlyric: /away Iam away
18:37.18Oridanwho owns PT3? and: does GetBest work on multisets ?
18:37.24renchapand if you use a good irc client, when you type /away again you get all highlights
18:37.31CIA-1103moonsorrow * r31793 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua:
18:37.31CIA-11PitBull:
18:37.31CIA-11- Combat text font size can now be changed via the menu
18:38.26Sarozckknight, ping
18:38.46Sarozckknight, if it was about my ping before, ignore :)
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18:40.25kenlyricI can test this if the servers ever come back, but I thought I'd ask for know... can closetgnome currently detect if the breath indicator is active? You'd probably need a separate plugin for that.
18:40.49xyusome servers are up
18:45.28Saint-Nhaha change cloths while swimming incase you drown?
18:45.32Saint-Nclothes
18:46.12kenlyrichttp://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Most-kids-unaffected-by-violent-games/2007/04/01/1175366055463.html
18:46.24kenlyric"Researchers discover the obvious in recent study"
18:48.06Ominousckknight:ping
18:49.42AmadeoAceEvent-2.0-30806 (Ace2):428: Invalid trade skill item in SetTradeSkillItem(index [,reagent])
18:49.57AmadeoHemlock keeps scanning poisons when I log in
18:53.17Saint-Nhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17928141/
18:53.36*** join/#wowace chrisn (n=chrisn@S01060015e97f2611.vc.shawcable.net)
18:53.45deltronmushroom mushroom
18:54.15Chris_nHey Antiarc are you here?
18:54.21Saint-Nhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6529511,00.html <-- oh my god
18:54.26Saint-Ngo froggies!
18:54.52Chris_nAnyone else using Antiarc's sig generator?
18:55.33Saint-NChina's state media reported last year that the government plans to build more than 7,500 miles of high-speed railways in coming years at a cost of $250 billion to $310 billion.
18:55.42Saint-Nam i the only one that sees something wrong with that?
18:56.32CIA-1103roartindon * r31794 10RapidCast/RapidCast.lua: RapidCast: Previously was working ~80% of the time with PitBull casting bars. Now intercepts a lot more to ensure 100% lag-free casting.
18:57.27Oridanomg Roartindon, rapidcast is great
18:58.00Oridani never knew about it before, but it was irritating canceling heals in the last 0.3seconds, only to find that it casts anyway
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18:58.03CIA-1103lordrhys * r31795 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (3 files):
18:58.03CIA-11FuBar_FactionItemsFu: 2.2.0 * Fixed Reputation listing should now properly show current / needed in Rep level
18:58.03CIA-11* Added more items to lists
18:58.03CIA-11* Fixed spelling of some items and faction names
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18:58.21NeoTronwhat is rapidcast?
18:58.32Oridanit makes your casting bar allow for latency
18:58.38NeoTronah
18:58.55renchapckknight: http://perso.renchap.com/wow/WoWScrnShot_040307_161700.jpg
18:58.55NeoTronprobably doesn't work with x-perl's cast bars
18:59.10renchapthere is a bug with castbar left alignment
18:59.10deltroneww x-perl
18:59.17renchapbut now due to layout
18:59.23NeoTronworks great
18:59.36Mikmafun fun
18:59.37NeoTroncustomizable with a sane dialog
18:59.50Roartindonoridan: You can chain cast spells faster with it if you use macros to cast spells (/stopcasting /cast blah)... or you can know how much time you really have to cancel spells :)
19:00.04RoartindonI've got aguf and Pitbull casting bar support atm.. none for x-perl
19:00.22Oridanyeah? its a really smart addon, thanks!
19:00.36ckknightOminous: pong
19:00.40Saint-Ni dont even know what casting bar i use
19:00.44NeoTronRoartindon: wonder how much more dps I could do with that
19:00.53Saint-Nwhatever came with bartender i spose
19:00.59NeoTronRoartindon: shadow bolt spamming, 250ms latency might add another ~10%
19:01.06FISKER_QAnyone know shit about apache and linux?
19:01.14ckknightrenchap: I don't see the problem
19:01.14Saint-Nsorta whatcha need?
19:01.15JoshBorkeyou know, i'm still not sure what's going on in that picture
19:01.20ckknightrenchap: except you being French and all.
19:01.24renchap^^
19:01.29FISKER_QWell all my paths are case sensitive
19:01.32FISKER_Qand i would like that they were not
19:01.36renchaplook at the left margin
19:01.38RoartindonNeotron - For reference, pre-RapidCast to post-rapid cast, I did about 20% more dps in naxx.
19:01.43RoartindonAs a mage
19:01.49OminousckknightL i was thinking about adding a red boarder around debuffs, what do u think
19:01.51Saint-NJoshBorke: thats because it's not in english ;P
19:01.52FISKER_Qso our n00b users can use site.com/lAwlAlWl instead of just lawlalwl
19:01.53FISKER_Q:P
19:01.55renchapthe castbar isnt aligned
19:02.24Saint-Nare you that dorky mage from indecisive?
19:02.24xyudo you macro all yoru spells with /stopcast /cast etc?
19:02.51Roartindonall my main ones xyu
19:02.52CIA-1103ammo * r31796 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull: fix renchap's portrait alignment problem
19:02.54CIA-1103chuckg * r31797 10cgCrafty/cgCrafty.lua:
19:02.54CIA-11cgCrafty: Revision 2.0.67
19:02.54CIA-11- Fix for line 125 nil error occurring when the user has no SavedVariables to reference.
19:02.59xyualong with rapidcast?
19:03.07xyui did that for a while but i like to spam the buttons sometimes
19:03.13xyuand i cancelled them prematurely :P
19:03.24RoartindonYou can't spam buttons in TBC... the addon can't block the /stopspellcasting
19:03.24xyui have fits of button mashing
19:03.33Roartindon(not like cirk's fastcast could... those APIs have been made secure)
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19:03.49gxamFISKER_Q: i think mod_spelling does that
19:04.01Saint-NFISKER_Q: i "think" it's just a regex in the site main section.. do a google for case insensitive or something
19:04.06RoartindonBut I have fireball, scorch, fire blast, counterspell, spellsteal and a few others  macroed now
19:04.15xyuright, which is why i have a problem w/ that macro
19:04.21xyuyeah currently i only use counterspell
19:04.30sbuPitBull-r31793\Portrait\Portrait.lua:99: attempt to index local 'class' (a nil value)
19:04.35sbusomething with fallback i guess
19:05.05RoartindonWell, maybe rapidcast may save you early-onset RSI :P
19:05.18xyuye
19:05.20xyugiving it a shot ^^
19:05.31xyui play from taiwan so my ping is crazy high
19:05.54RoartindonI'm sure my place in australia is higher ping :)
19:05.54FISKER_Qalright Saint-N and gxam :P
19:05.56deltronmy guildmate plays from the middle of iraq :P
19:06.03deltronhe gets 12K pink sometimes
19:06.13Saint-N12k pink?!
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19:06.17Saint-Nmy god he's a mad man!
19:06.20Saint-N;)
19:06.30JoshBorkehe's the MT isn't he?
19:06.33JoshBorkeor better yet, MH :-D
19:06.36deltronlol no
19:06.44xyuSo if my ping is 600 how do i set up rapidcast?
19:06.49FISKER_Qwhere do i set it gxam?
19:06.50xyupadding?
19:06.53Saint-NRoartindon: speaking of iraq did ghulrys get home safe?
19:07.13Roartindonxyu - leave it at default
19:07.25Roartindon50ms padding should be fine
19:07.45Roartindonwhat it essentially does is records the time you send the command to the server.. then when the server responsds with the spell cast time
19:07.49FISKER_Qbtw when allowing override from .htaccess is it "AllowOverride Any" or is it All?
19:07.50xyuat default it doesn't seem to be doing anything.  i still get the delay w/ a full cast bar
19:07.54Roartindonit modifies the cast bar to start it from when you pressed the button + padding time
19:08.08Saint-Nhows it work for channeled?
19:08.29Roartindonif it's working right, you should see the castbar 'jump' the first section.. ie. I cast scorch, and it jumps nearly 1/3rd of hte way through the bar
19:08.30HerioI'd wish it created a red zone at the end of the bar =)
19:08.47Roartindonchanneled spells it adjusts so that it should run out right when you're free to do something else and still get the full effects of the channel
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19:09.27Mikma574.8km/h with train
19:09.29Mikmathat's insane
19:09.30RoartindonHerio: I tried addons with that first, and I was much more accurate with the addon adjusting the castbar to match the end of the regular casting bar, than trying to time my next cast for when it arbitrariliy hit the 'red zone'
19:09.39Saint-Nahh okay i've been getting the hang of MF timing lately soits almost a steady stream, but generally according to the bar ive got like .3-.7 left
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19:10.42Heriohttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5456.msg91908#msg91908
19:11.01Heriorob malda, or imposter
19:11.27xyudo my spells have to me macroed for it to work?
19:11.27deltrondoubt it's him
19:13.33ckknightI dunno
19:13.37ckknightI know he plays WoW
19:13.41Roartindonxyu: what casting bars are you using?
19:13.49ckknightlemme send him a PM
19:13.50deltronit could be him I guess
19:13.54xyupitbull
19:14.01deltronhe requests the stuff I want heh
19:14.09RoartindonUpdated pitbull to the latest? requires stuff from within the last couple of hours
19:14.22deltronckknight: also, estimated heals is soooo awesome
19:14.23xyuabout 8 minutes ago
19:14.29ckknightokay, it's Rob Malda.
19:14.32deltronnice
19:14.38deltronno pressure!
19:14.45ckknightI should request money.
19:14.52Herioword
19:14.53ckknight:-P
19:14.54deltronlol
19:14.55RoartindonSaint-N: Re ghulrhys.. no idea, I hope he's safe
19:14.55Saint-Nwhos rob malda?
19:15.00deltronSaint-N: omg
19:15.10deltronSaint-N must be new to the internets
19:15.12Saint-Nyes yes........
19:15.22deltronSaint-N: slashdot.org
19:15.34Saint-Nhe runs it or something?
19:15.41ckknightyes.
19:15.42deltroncreator
19:15.43Saint-Nslashdot has always been a posturing hole
19:15.55Saint-Nas such ive managed to avoid it
19:15.58Saint-N;)
19:16.00ckknightI traced his email back to his own site
19:16.09deltronheh don't go to digg, kuro5hin, etc then
19:16.11ckknightand since you need to confirm before posting, it's him
19:16.12JoshBorkeso that is the real cmdrtaco?
19:16.14AmadeoI doubt it's Rob
19:16.19ckknightyes, JoshBorke
19:16.20AmadeoHis typing sucks too much
19:16.20ckknightit is, Amadeo
19:16.25Amadeowhat? wtf
19:16.38ckknighthis email is to cmdrtaco.net
19:16.44Saint-Nkuro5hin?
19:16.46Saint-Ndigg?
19:16.49ckknightwhich is Rob's site
19:16.50Saint-N;)
19:16.51Amadeohaha
19:16.54deltronSaint-N: go to those sites, add a .com :P
19:17.00Saint-Nnooo
19:17.04Saint-Nit's a trick i know it is!
19:18.20deltronckknight: your player frames are quickly shaping up to be the best by far, I salute you
19:18.32ckknightmodularity leads to hackability
19:18.37[Ammo]yarr
19:18.53ckknightby making a good framework, many developers can work on it at once without pain, causing the project as a whole to be much better.
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19:18.58ckknightas be produced faster.
19:19.02[dRaCo]is there a way to change pitbull's font size?
19:19.03ckknightand*
19:19.05FISKER_Qyay found it gxam
19:19.07FISKER_Qi liek you
19:19.10FISKER_Qunlike Kirkburn
19:19.11trhg'day
19:19.19Ominousckknight: how would i go about putting a red border around debufs?
19:19.24deltronheh is target, target, target, etc still in pitbull?
19:19.28KirkburnAww, I haet yew two!
19:19.29Saint-Nckknight: did you /are you adding unit buttons?
19:19.36Heriomy roommate was singing "danger zone" out of key, so I pegged him in the eye with a waded up piece of seran wrap
19:19.39ckknightwhat're unit buttons?
19:19.51ckknightdeltron: yes
19:19.52Saint-Nlittle custom buttons next too unit frames for spells macros etc
19:20.03ckknightOminous: possible.
19:20.04Saint-Nlike benecast as per our previous discussion
19:20.28[Ammo]just ask the unitactionbuttons author to support pitbull
19:20.30[Ammo]and you're done
19:20.31ckknightif someone makes that, it won't be me, but it could be done with a module.
19:20.41JoshBorkehow would someone go about hiding aura's with a layout?
19:20.49JoshBorkeomit the auraFrame key?
19:21.01[Ammo]auraFrame = function( unit, frame) frame.auraFrame:Hide() end
19:21.02OminousauraFrame = function(unit, frame) frame.auraFrame:Hide() end,
19:21.07Ominousand same with auraFrame2
19:21.09Saint-N[Ammo]: yeah we were talking about the problems with that ;P hence why i asked if it was just part of it(ie had someone added a module to accomplish it)
19:21.11[Ammo]same for auraFrame2
19:21.19[Ammo]bah ominous :p
19:21.21Ominous:p
19:21.26Ominousu just got the firest one :p
19:21.32[Ammo]yeah
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19:21.43Ominousckknight: how would i go about it?
19:21.46Funkeh`whats the blizzard buff frame called? anyone know off the top of their heads?
19:22.01HerioBuffFrame IIRC
19:22.16Herioit doesn't move around the way you'd like, if my memory serves me
19:22.20Arrowmasteryeah
19:22.30Arrowmasterif you want to move it you have to move the temporary buff frame
19:22.38Funkeh`nah
19:22.41Funkeh`i wan't to hide it
19:22.57ckknightOminous: by making a new texture for each debuff frame
19:23.03Ominousk
19:23.31MikmaPortrait.lua:99: attempt to index local 'class' (a nil value) - a mob died
19:23.49[Ammo]Mikma: that's the fallbacks where it tries to find a classicon for a mob
19:23.58[Ammo]which isn't classified when it's dead or somethin
19:24.25JoshBorkehrm, i still don't like barfader
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19:24.47[Ammo]the one before nymbia's last 2 commits was better
19:24.48Mikma[Ammo]: ok, can you fix it? :)
19:25.00[Ammo]Mikma: not really since I can't play to test atm
19:25.02moonsorrowJoshBorke: try mine :P
19:25.04Mikmaoh ok, i'll get the older one then
19:25.15JoshBorkei can't seem to get to see both the current and the new at the same time
19:25.34Funkeh`cool
19:25.42Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
19:25.57Funkeh`ty Herio
19:26.16Heriono prob
19:27.08ckknightWhy are there so many Paladins everywhere?
19:27.08ckknightBecause when Priests and Warriors get together, so few of the Warriors use Protection...
19:27.10HerioYES
19:27.24AmadeoToo true ;)
19:27.30Oridanpah
19:27.37Oridanwhy would anyone NOT be protection specced ?
19:27.37AmadeoThat also fits the fact that most women play Priests :P
19:27.39Heriothey fixed the mechannar bug with the elevator!
19:27.41HerioWOOT
19:27.54Oridanwhen i found prot, i never went to any other spec
19:27.59Herionah, in my experience, druids
19:28.11AmadeoHerio: Usually most healing classes
19:28.18JoshBorkeOridan: because holy pwns at 70
19:28.21Amadeoit was Druid in EQ
19:28.21Herioour 40 man raids we had 5 druids, 4 of which were females IRL
19:28.23CIA-1103lordrhys * r31798 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2/ (. Babble-Faction-2.2.lua):
19:28.23CIA-11.Babble-Faction-2.2: updated spelling of many factions, they had 'The ' in front where no needed.
19:28.23CIA-11* fixed Silverwing Sentinals
19:28.25AmadeoI'd say more Priest in WoW!
19:28.37Heriowe had one female priest out of like 8 o.o
19:28.41OridanJoshBorke> true, but i just really love prot ;)
19:29.00JoshBorkezomg, fading + smooth = HOT
19:29.00AmadeoHerio: Are you US?
19:29.00FISKER_Qbtw anyone know where cladhaire has his googlecode? :o
19:29.00Herioyes
19:29.04AmadeoInteresting!
19:29.06JoshBorkeFISKER_Q: depends on which project i'm pretty sure
19:29.08AmadeoFISKER_Q: Google!
19:29.10FISKER_QLOL!
19:29.18FISKER_QLightheaded :P
19:29.23FISKER_QCouldn't find it with google :o
19:29.36Heriomost of the girls I know who play wow play with their husbands/boyfriends etc
19:29.53FISKER_Qno girls on the internet Herio
19:29.59JoshBorkeFISKER_Q: http://code.google.com/p/wow-lightheaded/
19:30.00JoshBorkeowned
19:30.04Herioyuh huh!
19:30.12HerioI herd em on ventreelow
19:30.26FISKER_QThat was all me
19:30.44FISKER_QAlso i'm going to rape you
19:30.55Herioonoz
19:31.16JoshBorkemoonsorrow: have you checked out doing alpha+smoothing?
19:31.19Amadeo90% of them are desperate and lonely too :P  
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19:31.40moonsorrowJoshBorke: yes, I changed my module
19:31.57moonsorrowit's very nice to look at it, but just my opinion :)
19:32.01JoshBorkemoonsorrow: it's exactly what i was looking for (once i changed the color of the fading bar)
19:33.26JoshBorkemoonsorrow: i think the best way to handle doing both would be making Fading an option and Smoothing an option.  if neither option then it means ignore the frame
19:33.29Mikma[Ammo]: or, disabling the portrait did help too ;)
19:33.49JoshBorkeor should ignore still be a third option you think?
19:34.10moonsorrowJoshBorke: I don't really fade the second bar, the alpha value is at 0.7
19:34.59revvFunkeh`:  Thanks, wasn't aware of those IsFeighDeath() / UnitIs...() calls.
19:35.14Funkeh`haha
19:35.19Funkeh`wasn't aware you wre on irc
19:35.36revvHehe, yeah, been here for months, I don't say much.  :)
19:35.40Funkeh`:p
19:35.54JoshBorkeckknight: question about clusters
19:36.03ckknightk...
19:36.30JoshBorkeckknight: what do you think about custom clusters?  so someone could say group party1 with party1pet and party1target if they wanted
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19:36.50CIA-1103alexandre * r31799 10Chronometer/Data/Warrior.lua:
19:36.50CIA-11Chronometer:
19:36.50CIA-11- modified warrior's data for thunderclap at character level 70 (was 34, now 30)
19:36.54ckknightprolly not
19:36.59ckknighttoo complex, imho
19:37.08ckknightfor me, mostly
19:37.15Kaeltenhow do you say if($ is not None) in javascript?
19:37.32JoshBorkeif (x ~= none) ? ;-P
19:37.44KaeltenJoshBorke: you lua noob! :P
19:37.59JoshBorkeckknight: even if done as part of the layout definition?
19:38.18JoshBorkemeh, whatever
19:38.19ckknightyou can't define clusters in layouts
19:38.29JoshBorkeyea, that doesn't make sense (what i said)
19:38.50ckknightJoshBorke: if (val != null)
19:39.05ckknightor do they use $?
19:39.11ckknightif ($val != null)
19:39.13Oridanthey dont
19:39.22Oridanjavascript doesnt use $ for vars
19:39.26apejcicjavascript if(typeof(val) == 'undefined')
19:39.28Kaelten$ is a variable in name
19:39.57Ominousckknight: right i now have a texture frame for each debuff frame, how would i make ir red?
19:40.18ckknightyou find a texture that is just a border (there's on in agUF)
19:40.23ckknightone*
19:40.45ckknightand then you set the texture to that
19:40.50NeoTrondoes pitbull have raid frames?
19:40.51ckknightand do :SetVertexColor(1, 0, 0)
19:41.01ckknightyes, NeoTron, but they aren't grouped yet
19:41.07Mikma[Ammo]: well, the class-icon is only bugged. others seem to work fine
19:41.08NeoTronok
19:41.30moonsorrowJoshBorke: if you're interested, I could send you the modified barfader
19:41.34Saint-Nis it modular in the seanse that if i dont want the target and player frames i can just not load them or setup like aguf where i need to disable them?
19:41.42Saint-Nsense
19:41.43JoshBorkemoonsorrow: naw, i'm playing around with mine :-)
19:41.46moonsorrowk :P
19:42.40apejcicumm i gotta a problem with pitbull (and agUF for that matter) castbbar. If u start channeling a spell imideatly after previous one, the channeling disappear. Did anyone noticed that?
19:43.13ckknightSaint-N: you can disable them and then thhe frames are recycled
19:43.25deltronROFLMAO
19:43.25deltronhttp://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=38010
19:43.26deltron:D
19:43.27Saint-Nso not hovering around in mem un-used?
19:43.33Saint-Nokies groovy
19:46.55NeoTronb
19:47.36ckknightc
19:48.06[dRaCo]is there a way to change pitbull's font size?
19:48.41Roartindondraco: I just went through and created my own layout
19:48.55Roartindonand do things like castText:SetFont("fontfilename", 10) -- 10 = font size
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19:49.38[dRaCo]hm... would prolly be a way to do that, thanks
19:50.02[dRaCo]no easier way, like changing a global or something?
19:50.49kergoth[Ammo]: that reminds me, if you click on an item that has a casting bar, specifically the thingy in hellfire peninsula at falcon's watch to teleport to the top of the tower, and click it a second time, it doesnt actually reset the cast.  cbripoff's cast bar continues, but the pitbull cast bar ends.
19:50.51sbuwtb aura size option :p
19:52.05kergoth[Ammo]: at least, it did that yesterday. havent tested current svn
19:52.43JoshBorkehm, to commit my new version or not...
19:53.13shieldbhmm... is there documentation for surfacelib hanging out somewhere?
19:55.17kergothi hope the cedega devs fix the wow crash issues soon
19:55.28kergothwine is slower :\
19:55.32deltronI never used cedega
19:55.35deltronI use wine
19:55.52kergothwith this worthless backup video card, i get 10fps normally. in wine its like 3 while moving :P
19:56.16Saint-Ndo you have a sister?
19:56.23Saint-Ncuz those are usually good for income generation
19:56.28deltronlol
19:56.35shieldbOminous, you around?
19:57.20Saint-Nwhere do you live kerg?
19:57.34Ominoussheildb:yuea
19:58.04shieldbso apparently incubator and roguetimerfu don't play nice together, trying to nail it down
19:59.11Ominousoh
19:59.13shieldbincubator with all my other mods, no errors. roguetimerfu with all my other mods, no errors. both of them together and Error:  attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) on 168 of bars.lua in roguetimerfu
19:59.38Ominousodd
19:59.49Ominousi dont accidently use a global variable or something do i
20:00.28shieldbnot sure, haven't given it an in depth look on the roguetimerfu end yet
20:00.44sbuSaint-N: mh - want to trade sister for new video card? :/
20:02.20Ominoushow do i make 1 frame below the ofher when they are both "BACKGROUND" Strata
20:02.57Saint-Nthat depends on wether shes cute, but no if he was near nyc ive got a raedon 9250 he can just have ;P
20:05.24HjalteWoah. I log in, hear the unmount sound and find myself falling thorugh air to die at the ground in shattrah.
20:05.40chutwigmy server is so ridiculously lagged out right now
20:06.09xyuHjalte: that's happening to me on ONE of my chars only
20:06.16JoshBorkeHjalte: could be worse, coulda died on an island
20:06.19xyuevery single time i log in i'm plummeting to the ground
20:06.35xyuyou think i'd learn to stop flying to the top of the damn world and logging out when i'm bored
20:06.37HjalteI'm just wondering what makes me do it. I've never experienced it before.
20:07.12JoshBorkexyu: slow fall ftw :-D
20:07.14xyuI've been so bored i fly up to those skylands in nagrand and demount
20:07.17xyuand then wander around.
20:07.25xyuYeah JoshBorke:  i like to use the timed blink personally
20:07.27xyumore skillful  
20:08.00JoshBorkei still fail at hitting the button...
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20:18.12NeoTronHjalte: lol
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20:27.35Ominoushow do i make 1 frame below the ofher when they are both "BACKGROUND" Strata
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20:28.59spookyhey all
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20:29.36spookyguyz
20:29.39spookyanyone therE?
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20:29.54ckknightno, spooky
20:30.16Ominousckknight: any ideas?
20:30.25ckknightOminous: about?
20:30.36Ominoushow do i make 1 frame below the ofher when they are both "BACKGROUND" Strata
20:30.37spookythis is a coding channel right?
20:30.45ckknightoh, you can't, really
20:30.49ckknightyes, spooky
20:31.42spookyi have a noobie question about a Visual C++
20:31.58spookyapp
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20:32.01spookyim creating.
20:32.02Ominouswrong language :P
20:32.09spooky..
20:32.11spookylol
20:32.25spookyanyone knows vc++?
20:32.32apejcici know c++
20:32.38Ominousckknight: what would be the best way to make sure teh boder frame is always below the icon frame
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20:34.00Ominousmake the icon frame a child of the border frame?
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20:34.49ckknightthe border should be above the icon
20:35.15Ominousthe aguf border isnt just a boarder
20:35.45ckknightokay, if anyone has seen my southernjesse video, I need a question to answer for my next video
20:35.50ckknightanyone have any ideas?
20:37.12Ominousckknight: ignore me, chose the wrong file
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20:42.43kergothanyone write a script to merge/import cartographer quests/questobjective data yet?
20:48.17Ominousckknight: right, im done just having trouble with the options agian
20:49.48ckknightI'll help you if you give me a good question for my next southernjesse episode
20:51.53CIA-1103totalpackage * r31800 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):
20:51.53CIA-11Cellular
20:51.53CIA-11- finally found out that hiding the UI (alt-z) will bug out the whisper windows, eventually causing doubles...should be fixed now
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20:57.01Ominousckknight: what a what
20:59.47Heriockknight: I just watched your youtube thing
21:00.01HerioI think the problem is lonelygirl has boobs and you don't
21:00.10Herioyou should get that looked at
21:00.23Herio:O
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21:02.08CIA-1103ominous * r31801 10PitBull/Aura/ (Aura.lua debuffHighlight.tga): PitBull: added aura highlighing and options for it
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21:03.12apejcicwewt debuff hilghlighting
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21:04.36NightHawkTheSaneneat.
21:04.47NightHawkTheSanenow all i need is a layout that doesnt make me want to claw my eyes out.
21:05.32Ominoushmm..., seems it dosnet want to work with multiple buffs /debuffs
21:06.54Heriohttp://ace.pastey.net/10177: pitbull bug
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21:07.33MechizarHrm, is anyone else having trouble with Coral Cache images (as linked by Antiarc's Sig Generator) working?
21:07.55deltronmmm treo 755p
21:09.42deltronnot tried
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21:10.20AmadeoMechizar: As in the page not loading?
21:11.06kergothopening a 127,000 line file in vim takes a little while
21:11.19kergothwonder how to speed that up.. already loading a script that disable syntax highlighting and stuff..
21:11.20kergothhmm
21:11.28deltronnotepad?
21:11.29deltron:)
21:11.30CIA-1103funkydude * r31802 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua:
21:11.30CIA-11BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane:
21:11.30CIA-11- added first landing bar(after summon) only shows if the module is enabled
21:12.51IndustrialIs there a feed for the wowace forum? :P
21:13.11Industrialso i wont have to be an f5-maniac
21:13.21deltronSMF's RSS feeds are kinda meh
21:13.54MechizarAmadeo: Yeah, the connection times out.
21:14.00deltronindus: gimme a sec and I'll give you a link
21:14.33Industrialsure =D
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21:15.08AmadeoMechizar: I think a lot of people have problems with it
21:15.15Industrialseeing if i like it better then google reader (wich for no reason randomly marks everything as read LKDFHLSKJDFHLSK DJHSLKHL)
21:15.16AmadeoBut I'm not sure it can be fixed
21:15.24deltronsage is pretty nice
21:15.43CIA-1103ominous * r31803 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: bug fix from last commit, now debuffs parent to auraFrame2 if split is set
21:15.49Ominousok now they work :)
21:16.11MechizarAmadeo: Yeah, I am getting 'Server Not Found' errors.
21:20.32CIA-1103roartindon * r31804 10PitBull_RangeCheck/PitBull_RangeCheck.lua: PitBull_RangeCheck: Range check now works for non-healer classes.
21:20.45Stephmwwoo
21:21.00Stephmwit's really taking off
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21:21.22apejcicroartidon: thx i was just coding that part :)
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21:23.05HjalteHmm, but isnt there a rangecheck inbuilt in Pitbull?
21:23.13deltronthere is now
21:23.15deltroni think
21:23.24deltronthere's a new aggro color changing
21:24.18deltronbbl going home :D
21:24.19kergoth? aggro is pitbull_banzai... did that go into the core or something?
21:26.51apejcicas far as i know there isnt any range checking implemented into pitbull, i gave ammo seperate module to uploud into svn just this morning
21:28.18CIA-1103elkano * r31805 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua):
21:28.19CIA-11ElkBuffBars
21:28.19CIA-11- added alpha
21:28.19CIA-11- seperated bar and background
21:28.19CIA-11- bugfixes
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21:31.02CIA-1103roartindon * r31806 10PitBull_RangeCheck/PitBull_RangeCheck.lua:
21:31.02CIA-11PitBull_RangeCheck: The C++ in me still forgets that integer 0 is not the same
21:31.02CIA-11as false. Fixed. Tested on healer and non-healer classes now. Some strange
21:31.02CIA-11things happening if you enable for target frames with bars not fading, but the
21:31.02CIA-11rest of the frame working properly...
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21:34.07Roartindonelkano - you there?
21:34.31RoartindonRangeCheck for pitbull was a separate addon just like aUF_RangeCheck
21:35.12RoartindonI just needed to be able to see range on non-healer classes, so I made a distanceCheckFunction variable instead of the helpfulSpellName variable
21:35.33ckknightHerio: I'm hoping the humor offsets the boobs
21:35.53Heriooh
21:35.58HerioI don't know if that's going to swing
21:38.07art3misnew patch?
21:38.17art3misis this the one that adds all the super new and cool things?
21:38.22Roartindonnope
21:38.27Roartindonthat's still some way off it seems
21:38.31art3misbooo
21:38.37Stephmwit's the one that converts all classes to Hunters
21:38.45art3misthats convient
21:38.54art3misafter all i DID just download HunterLoot
21:39.01Stephmwthey were all converging anyway
21:39.11ElkanoRoartindon, no ;)
21:39.18art3mishrm i wonder where the broom is to ram up my ass
21:39.21RoartindonJust a quick note...
21:39.25Roartindonin the EBB_Bar.lua ...
21:39.39SarozWho fucked up simple combat log
21:39.49art3miswoah! theres a mac update at the top of the patch notes?!!?
21:39.58Stephmwart3mis: maybe you left it up there last time?
21:39.59Roartindonusing SetVertexColor:(unpack(color))
21:39.59art3misim scared
21:39.59Sarozbtw Elkano, gonna use AceOptions anytime soon?
21:40.05Roartindonis slightly nicer than SetVertexColor:(color[1], color[2], color[3], color[4])
21:40.15Roartindonerr.. ignore my obvious misplacement of ":"
21:40.25art3misStephmw: its part of the hunter addon ;P
21:40.25ElkanoRoartindon, I thought about that when I added color[4] today ^^
21:40.35Stephmwart3mis: no wonder Elves have such straight posture
21:40.43art3misi know!
21:40.56art3misalthough it doesnt exaplin why trolls run around hunched over ;)
21:41.00ElkanoSaroz when did you try for the last time?
21:41.01art3misexplain
21:41.03Stephmwbroken broom
21:41.08art3misoh good call
21:41.15SarozElkano, dunno, just looked at source a few days ago
21:41.49Stephmwart3mis: or maybe it's a bow rather than a broom in their case
21:41.57art3misnice: CoT: Old Hillsbrand - The Escape from Durnholde event will no longer break during the church part of the encounter.
21:42.15Stephmwonly done that encounter once, no breakages
21:42.20art3misme too
21:42.47Stephmwbattle rez was handy
21:42.47art3misnow that i think about it ive never been in the other instance in cot
21:42.47RoartindonTried it on heroic? I died so many times on heroic.....
21:42.49NeoTronyeah never had a problem
21:43.02NeoTronBM is fun
21:43.02StephmwRoartindon: no, but haven't yet got the keys :)
21:43.03NeoTronwell
21:43.05art3misno not bm
21:43.09art3misthe 3rd one
21:43.17NeoTronthird one is Hyjal. good luck with that
21:43.21art3misoh okay
21:43.29ElkanoSaroz, must have been more than just 'a few days' ^^
21:43.41NeoTronapparenly that'll take a long time
21:43.47SarozElkano, nice :)
21:43.57NeoTronthe attunement quest drops what, 4 vials from Vashj? :P
21:44.02Sarozye
21:44.04RoartindonYeah, that sucks
21:44.12NeoTronstupid timesink
21:44.12Sarozheard that was getting fixed
21:44.19Sarozyea, timesink ftl
21:44.19NeoTronhope so
21:44.23RoartindonIt's like Drakkisath, but with a week lockout
21:44.26Sarozye
21:44.30Herio...
21:44.33NeoTronthey sure did everuthing they hated about EQ and said they neever would do :P
21:44.39Sarozhahaha
21:44.45Herioit's not like you wouldn't be farming vashj anyway
21:44.47NeoTron'it's about the fun'!
21:45.08Sarozso true so true
21:45.22NeoTronHerio: for sure but it's still stupid. let the difficulty of the content decide when people do it I guess
21:45.35NeoTronof course with the gear progression right now.. there hardly won't be any upgrades anyway
21:46.14sylvanaarckknight can you answer an aceevent question?
21:46.25ckknightno, busy
21:46.35RoartindonHe's chatting up cmdrtaco!
21:46.48sylvanaarckknight ok
21:46.54NeoTronI saw Cmdrtaco playing a commando in Auto Assault back when that launched
21:47.00NeoTronhe ignored me though >:-)
21:47.34RoartindonIs there anything that stop/slows the synch between dev.wowace.com and svn.wowace.com?
21:47.37CIA-1103elkano * r31807 10ElkBuffBars/EBB_Bar.lua:
21:47.37CIA-11ElkBuffBars
21:47.37CIA-11- small bugfix to bar background
21:47.37CIA-11- added some metatable magic; thx to ckknight :)
21:48.08KinkxCartographer_Cleanup is awesome :)
21:48.26KinkxNo more f'ed up database
21:48.47kergothKinkx: agreed
21:49.06kergothwas just merging a bunch of questobjectives savedvars and ended up with an assload of dupes
21:49.07kergoth:)
21:49.26NeoTronCleanup removes cases where you have 15 entries for the same vendor and stuff like that? :P
21:49.49kergothyea, you can set the distance in yards to consider for dupe checking
21:50.07NeoTronhmm ok
21:50.10nevcairieli wonder if Carto_notes has such a filter for incoming notes from other players
21:50.15nevcairieli bet thats where my dupes came from
21:50.26Elkanonevcairiel, it does have iirc
21:50.53Elkanoat least it droped mining notes if that node was known
21:52.14nevcairielit checks for 5y
21:52.21kergothsigh
21:52.21nevcairieli think herbalism checks for 20y now
21:52.26kergothupdate bartender, now i lost my settings
21:52.39kergothhmmmm
21:52.42kergothwonder what happened
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21:52.54nevcairieldunno
21:53.26nevcairielmake sure AceDB is uptodate :D
21:53.28kergothdamnit, i spent a long time getting it just right
21:53.30kergothhrmph
21:53.55nevcairielbut it really shouldnt dump your settings
21:54.00nevcairielmaybe switched the profile?
21:55.22yacoobjust read about ip over dns tunneling
21:55.24yacoobingenious.
21:55.41kergothnot sure if it switched profiles or not, the bars were covering up my chat window
21:55.44kergothi tried char, default, and class
21:55.47kergothmy settings are gone
21:56.20art3mishrm
21:56.35kergothwait, thats odd
21:56.38art3misin the "tester" mode for pitbull im getting a fwe ghost frames
21:56.40art3misfew
21:56.57art3miswhat are those ?
21:57.27kergoththe 'profile' profile in the bartender savedvars is the correct settings
21:57.30kergothyet switching my bartender profile to default doesnt seem to show those
21:59.09nevcairieli really shouldnt write addons like Bartender .. all those people with feature requests or "how do i" questions are driving me mad
21:59.44kergothi'm glad all i've done are tiny little ones
22:02.43kergothanyone have a full cart questobjectives db for the horde nagrand quests?
22:02.58nevcairielheh
22:03.05Gagoriannevcairiel: lol, indeed.
22:03.30nevcairielI still have the idea for BartenderLite in my head
22:03.36nevcairielbasicly Bartender2 TBC
22:03.40GagorianExplaining theorycraft to n + 52 people for x + 92 spells isn't all that fun
22:03.41nevcairielonly reusing blizz buttons
22:03.43nevcairieland nothing fance
22:05.53nevcairielbut i am waiting for the state stack :D
22:05.53kergothhmm, no wowace thread for sharing cartographer_quests dbs
22:05.53kergothstate stack?
22:05.53Heriokerg: thought I saw one :O
22:06.20nevcairiel* The SecureStateHeaderTemplate now supports a small stack of saved states that can be used in state transition rules via push/pop/swap actions (See the header file for usage information)
22:06.25Heriohttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5092.0
22:06.36kergothquests != questobjectives
22:06.41Herio"Cartographer: Quest Objectives -- share your database here!" post
22:06.43Heriooh... o.o
22:06.46Heriowhat?
22:06.48kergoththey're two different modules.  the former tracks quest givers
22:06.58kergothquestobjectives tracks where you find the stuff you need to complete the quests.
22:07.03kergothquest item drop locations and all
22:07.08Herioohyes
22:07.12HerioI remember now
22:07.26nevcairielget that quest comments plugin for questsfu
22:07.39nevcairielwowhead comments in game
22:07.40nevcairielheh
22:07.42Herioor the one not for questsfu! o.O
22:08.10HerioWTB wowhead data converted for quests =P
22:08.16kergothi like questobjectives better
22:08.24kergoththen i just pop up the map, look at where i need to go for each
22:08.32kergothand plan fast routes to accomplish as many as possible in a few sweeps
22:08.37AmadeoWhat does that?
22:08.37kergothsaves unnecessary time wandering
22:09.24kergothAmadeo: what does what?
22:09.32Tekkub^^
22:09.32Amadeothe map thingy
22:09.39Amadeoquestobjectives is an addon? or part of one?
22:10.09kergothCartographer_QuestObjectives addon
22:10.18AmadeoOh, haha, I'll have to get that :)
22:10.29kergothget that, then download the merged questobjectives database off the wowace thread
22:10.48AmadeoI shouldn't even need it at this point, I've played too many chars
22:11.01kergothhehe
22:11.06nevcairieli remember most of the quests too
22:11.12kergothsome zones i know well enough to plan my questing effectively for alts
22:11.14kergothbut not all
22:11.15nevcairieli kinda have a gift for that, dont ask me how.
22:11.35kergothhmm, cycircled is freaking out
22:12.56art3misit got "fixed"
22:13.08art3misit now highlights quality of items on bars more visibly
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22:19.37kergothnevcairiel: something is very odd here... i hope updating the libs fixes it
22:20.07kergothhmm, maybe cycircled freaking out is doing something bad, considering it does touch bartender3 buttons
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22:22.23art3misi just did an update of my addons(have both cy abd bar3) adn no issues
22:23.23kergothart3mis: i think cycircled is freaking out about autobar actually.. the bartender issue i'm having is probably seperate
22:23.23ckknightalright, time for school
22:23.23ckknightcya all later
22:23.24kergothnevcairiel: the odd thing is my bar3 savedvars are correct. the X values for the bars are like 580, yet i have 3 full size bars in the lower left corner of my screen, 0,0
22:23.25kergothnevcairiel: fucking weird
22:23.25kergothand theres only one profile in my savedvars, the default one, the one i'm currently using
22:24.09nevcairielhm
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22:24.57nevcairieli changed somethign with the default handling yesterday to use a new AceDB feature
22:25.03nevcairielbut i dont think it could cause that
22:25.19Silviu-kergoth maybe u was in combat ?
22:25.24Silviu-when u relogged ?
22:25.35Silviu-My bars are all moved when i enter in combat
22:25.35nevcairielthat shouldnt matter
22:25.44kergothSilviu-: the savedvar settings are still correct, it just isnt obeying them
22:26.07Silviu-Especially the petbar is moved
22:26.15kergothif it is, at least we'll know the exact behavior when that happens. heh
22:28.36nevcairieldid you update your acedb yet?
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22:32.57kergothlooks like it was already current :\
22:33.51nevcairieltry reverting BT3 to 31147
22:34.04nevcairielif its back then, something is weird with that new AceDB feature
22:34.43Ominousis wowwiki working atm?
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22:36.24kergothnevcairiel: my bars are now back to normal.
22:36.47nevcairielwith the old revision?
22:36.58kergothyep
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22:37.09kergoththe settings were there, it just no longer obeyed them
22:37.17kergoththe old revision does
22:37.22art3mishttp://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2971198&page=1 <-- world needs more of this
22:37.27art3mis*and cow bell*
22:37.39CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31808 10Bartender3/Defaults.lua: Bartender3: reverted some changes due to brokeness in some cases
22:38.01kergothnevcairiel: thanks
22:38.40nevcairielguess i will need to do some testing with that again
22:39.41kergoth'**' is a nifty feature, probably j ust has some remaining quirks, since its so new?
22:39.52nevcairielyeah
22:40.21nevcairieli requested ** back when i was writing BT3
22:40.32nevcairielbut ckk only implemented it now because he needed it :P
22:41.37kergothnot surprising, thats often how it goes with oss development
22:42.12nevcairielyeah i know
22:42.17Ominouswhat colors correspond to different debuffs, poison = green, what are the others
22:42.27nevcairielthats why i cannot be bothered to implement most of the features people request for BT3 :P
22:42.36Heriopurple = curse
22:42.41Herioblue = magic
22:42.48kergothhehe
22:43.01Heriodisease = orge sicklyness
22:43.04Herioorange
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22:43.32nevcairielbut i still hope for 2.1.0 on PTR soon
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22:43.38nevcairielso i can work on my BartenderLite there
22:45.05Silviu-Bartenderlite ? ;)
22:45.06_neuron_bartenderlite nevcairiel ?
22:46.01nevcairielbasicly Bartender2 TBC
22:46.02nevcairieland not more
22:46.14AmadeoI think I'd like that
22:46.33nevcairielreusing blizz buttons, saving memory
22:46.36nevcairielonly 5 bars
22:46.39nevcairielno fancy features
22:46.57_neuron_hm, yeah that might be nice, dont need more than 5 bars on my char atleast
22:47.06Ominousnevcairiel: is stance swapping fancy?
22:47.11NeoTroncurrently use 5 myself
22:47.16nymbiai need 6. damn.
22:47.16NeoTron4 even
22:47.25_neuron_Ominous, well stance swapping is supposed by blizzard's bars as well
22:47.26nevcairielOminous: no, default UI does that
22:47.37NeoTronall I need is bindings and cooldown timers :P
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22:51.14Oridannymbia, i've just hacked a bit of code for pt3bar - prioritise conjured items over normal ones.. problem is the only way i could find to do it is to keep a custom table with sets which contain conjured items
22:52.12nymbiaOridan: why not just do a custom PT set with the conjured items valued higher?
22:52.46Oridancos then you'd have to list each conjured item wouldnt you ?
22:53.19Oridani mean, in the config
22:53.26nymbiajust need to copy-paste a bit of data from PT
22:53.58Oridanwell, all i did was make a table, with umm,, hang on i'll pastey it.. it'll make more sence than my code -> english translation ;)
22:55.20Oridannymbia: http://ace.pastey.net/10190
22:55.42Oridanhope it makes sence, and sorry for the really choppy codeing
22:55.44Oridancoding*
22:56.47Oridanand ofc, ridiculous overuse of parenthesis
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22:58.04ckknighthey all
22:58.08Oridanhey there
22:58.42Amadeockknight: Aren't you supposed to say, "Hey ya'll!"
22:59.07nymbia'wot ^ dawgs' ?
22:59.19ckknightI actually open my videos with "Howdy America"
22:59.37ckknightI finished filming the "Australia" episode
22:59.58ckknightI'm gonna cut and publish it soon
23:00.08Amadeohehe
23:00.25AmadeoGood thing you have that Mac ;)
23:00.40AmadeoOr wait... ^.~
23:00.46Amadeosomething like taht
23:00.58ckknightyea, having a mac has made this super easy
23:01.06ckknightwith iMovie and all
23:03.44Ominousis table[a.b] the same as table.a.b
23:04.11ckknightno
23:04.44ckknighttable.a.b => table['a']['b']
23:05.02Mikmackknight: who's making the Cartographer Waypoint-plugin?
23:05.10ckknightcheck the toc
23:05.32HjalteCan anyone tell me how i unlearn one of my tradeskills?
23:05.58Industrialwhat is the api function to /print ?
23:06.00Mikmawobin_: yo
23:06.20IndustrialHjalte: skills tab select the skill theres a button next to it in details part
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23:06.43art3misHjalte: open yer skill sheet from the character winder, click the skill and at the bottom you'll see a "unlearn"
23:06.48wobin_mornin Mikma
23:06.50ckknightIndustrial: AceConsole:PrintLiteral(...)
23:06.54HjalteAh, i see. Thanks you two :)
23:07.10Industrialckknight: k
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23:07.57art3miswhat questline is from the guy in SP heroic
23:08.08art3misi read it today and cant for the life of me remember where or what
23:08.15Mikmawobin_: feature-request for Cartographer_Waypoints :D add a feature to see the waypoint arrow, and an input box under it to give new coordinates
23:09.02wobin_?
23:09.07wobin_You'll have to do a mockup
23:09.09nymbiaOridan: link that pastey again?
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23:09.24Oridannymbia: http://ace.pastey.net/10190
23:09.24Hjalteart3mis, the questline to get attuned to serpentshrine cavern
23:10.04Mikmawobin_: well it's simple. "always show waypoint arrow" and inputbox under it with 2 spots. X-coord. Y-coord.
23:10.23Mikmawobin_: then you can click on the arrow or so and give the coords
23:10.25art3misahh okay thanks
23:10.31wobin_seems a bit messy
23:10.44wobin_using /way 23,45 would be infinitely faster, neh?
23:10.55Mikmawobin_: well, it is but it may be alot usable than writing the slashcommands :P
23:11.11Oridannymbia: the code in there does work, but its very ugly... i didnt plan it so theres probably a much simpler way of doing it
23:11.26wobin_So... click to focus on the left box, type number, click to focus on right box, type number =P
23:11.37wobin_or 10 keystrokes
23:12.03Mikmawobin_: some people don't like chatcommands
23:12.15wobin_That's silly.
23:12.19wobin_You're already typing anyway
23:12.31Mikmano i'm not actually nowadays
23:12.49wobin_So how do you intend to enter in the numbers?
23:13.09nymbiatelepathy
23:13.12wobin_kk
23:13.14nevcairielcopy/pasting
23:13.37Gagorianstill need to ctrl+c ctrl+v!
23:13.38wobin_nevcairiel: You'd still have to either have in <num>,<num>
23:13.43Mikmawobin_: that why i hate the chat ;)
23:13.46wobin_or c/p twice
23:14.01wobin_which still involves typing =P
23:14.15wobin_the chatcommand is simple and fast.
23:14.25wobin_It doesn't involve switching between mouse and keyboard =P
23:14.26GagorianSo conclusion? You all lose and I'm going to sleep.
23:15.59nevcairiel'nite
23:17.38Oridanany thoughts nymbia?
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23:25.05Wiebbeok
23:25.11Wiebbecan someone help me with adding my addon to the svn?
23:25.17Wiebbei am following the idiots guide
23:25.21Wiebbebut its still not working ^^
23:26.12ckknightnever underestimate the ingenuity of the idiot
23:26.59Oridanare you referring to me? /gasp!
23:27.04chuckgStart->Run, type "cmd".
23:27.13chuckgOnce you have a command prompt, type "format c:"
23:27.28Wiebbehehe
23:27.39Wiebbenah, it seems the guide isnt idiot proof
23:27.45chuckgALT-F4 also primes Tortoise, try that.
23:27.47Wiebbethe error message tells you to go to auto props
23:28.03Wiebbebut the guide starts with adding it without settings the properties eol stuff
23:28.08Ominouswibbie trye --auto-props
23:28.10Wiebbeso it wont be allowed
23:28.17Wiebbei just added that ^^
23:28.18Wiebbesec
23:28.20Wiebbelemme test now
23:28.37shieldbhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps gogo!
23:28.39Wiebbeah frack
23:28.39chuckgGot to Tortoise settings, under general click "edit" for Subversion Configuration File.
23:28.42Wiebbeyes
23:28.44Wiebbei just did that
23:28.51Wiebbebut now my config file is missing a header
23:28.51Wiebbe^^
23:29.00chuckgAdd the stuff listed in that link just posted.
23:29.08CIA-1103ominous * r31809 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: added different colors for different debuff types and added color options
23:29.12Wiebbei replaced it all
23:29.13Wiebbe:P
23:29.16Wiebbeand now its dead ^^
23:29.22Mikmaoh lala
23:29.24Wiebbesigh
23:29.30Wiebbenow i have to reinstall tortoise or something
23:29.31Wiebbe:>
23:30.13OminousElkano: ping
23:30.36shieldbWiebbe, http://ace.pastey.net/10205
23:30.46shieldbis my tortoise config file
23:30.53yacoobOkami is friggin' sweet.
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23:31.38shieldbwhile I'm not positive you could just go edit yours and replace it with everything I've got, that'd be a heck of a lot easier then reinstalling
23:32.00Wiebbeheh
23:32.11Wiebbewell, if you could send it, i could "fix" mine
23:32.11Industrialdamn this is a good song; Winger - Your Great Escape
23:32.18Wiebbei am missing something
23:32.26Wiebbeits still whining about the eol now though
23:32.27Wiebbe:P
23:32.40IndustrialxD
23:32.53Wiebbe:<
23:32.57Wiebbebad Industrial!
23:33.18IndustrialWiebbe receives [Clue].
23:33.20Industriallol
23:33.36Wiebbeoh
23:33.36Industrialsorry, i didnt even read what was wrong
23:33.37Wiebbeyou pasted it
23:33.39Wiebbenm
23:33.52ckknightWTB [Clue] PST
23:34.19NightHawkTheSaneit was ckknight in the irc channel with the trout!
23:34.52CIA-1103wiebbe * r31810 10wRlog/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
23:34.52CIA-11wRlog: initial commit
23:34.52CIA-11- Allows the tracking of raids/events for exporting.
23:35.03Wiebbegasp!
23:35.09shieldbckknight, http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/Clue-Game.jpg
23:35.14ckknightwRlog?
23:35.19Wiebbewrlog!
23:35.26Wiebbewiebbe RaidLog basicly :>
23:35.27NeoTronWirtual Reality!
23:35.31Wiebbebut wrlog sounds cooler!
23:35.38NeoTronis it any good? :P
23:35.43Wiebbeespecially if you try to pronounce it in 1 go
23:35.44Garoun|LoupanaI figured it was wow raidlog :P
23:36.00Wiebbeits usable now
23:36.07Wiebbei am gonna beef it up a bit though
23:36.14Wiebbestill have to setup externals though :>
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23:38.02Oridangoodnight all
23:38.08shieldbhttp://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Grue%27s_Clues
23:46.00ckknightWiebbe: I'm not fond of names that attribute their owners
23:46.43ckknightgah, WoW update
23:47.03Wiebbethen its wowRlog!
23:47.04Wiebbe:P
23:47.35Wiebbeit doesnt say wiebbe anywhere in the name
23:47.36Wiebbe:)
23:47.41Wiebbebasicly the name is wRlog
23:47.43ckknightoh well
23:48.01ckknightI
23:48.04ckknightI'm still saying
23:48.24ckknightif you have an addon that attributes its owner, then it really prevents someone else from taking it and expanding on it
23:48.32shieldbbut...but...kc_items!
23:48.43ckknightyes, and I oppose the kc_ prefix
23:48.48ckknightas well as the ag prefix
23:48.51ckknightand the o prefix
23:48.53ckknightand the CT prefix
23:49.06CIA-1103wiebbe * r31811 10wRlog/ (. wRlog.toc):
23:49.06CIA-11wRlog:
23:49.06CIA-11- Adding externals
23:49.12NeoTrondon't see how it really matters
23:49.27NeoTronwho really knows or cares what kc_, o and CT stands for?
23:49.33Wiebbei see what you mean :)
23:49.38WiebbeNymbia Perl was even worse
23:49.39Wiebbe^^
23:49.45ckknightit can make it so one person loves CT_* mods without thinking for themselves
23:49.51chuckgI put the cg in cgCrafty!
23:49.52chuckg=D
23:49.54ckknightas well as preventing other developers from working on it
23:50.03ckknightcause they'll know it could never be theirs
23:50.18Wiebbecool, the externals are working
23:50.19chuckgI don't mind people doing short stuff.
23:50.20chuckgLike ..
23:50.25chuckgoMODNAME
23:50.33chuckgThe one's I dont like are ..
23:50.37ckknightI prefer people coming up with a mod name on their own
23:50.44chuckg"XXX_LEGOLAS_XXX'S CastBars"
23:50.54Wiebbeckknight, thats harder then it sounds
23:50.55Wiebbe:P
23:50.59WiebbeRaidScribbler!
23:51.00shieldbIn some cases having the author can be useful for keeping stuff apart though - GMail vs. Mailman vs. Postal vs. etc
23:51.02ckknightyes, it is.
23:51.17ckknightshieldb: those are all different names.
23:52.12shieldbbut they're all pretty easy to interchange if you can't remember them well
23:52.17shieldbthough I suppose that's another issue
23:52.51chuckgIn my case, "Crafty" is the name, "cg" is the prefix!
23:54.55ckknightshieldb: and I made a UF called PitBull
23:55.00ckknightnothing else is called PitBull
23:55.03ckknightbe creative!
23:55.20ckknightbe original
23:55.29_neuron_yeah, like me
23:55.46shieldbpitbull sits well with me as a name because it's pretty unique
23:55.47_neuron_nQuestLog, so unique, so create, and has nothing to do with my nick whatsoever
23:55.51NeoTronckknight: of course there's no way to know what the heck PitBull is from the name
23:56.07ckknightit'll bit your face off.
23:56.09NeoTrontjat
23:56.11ckknightbite*
23:56.24shieldbbut it can be confusing to have a ton of mods for the same function that are all synonyms of each other
23:56.39NeoTronoops. a lot of the Ace libraries have completely nonsensical names that are really confusing
23:56.49ckknightvery true.
23:57.01NeoTronjust ssying it's not black and white. unique names are both good and bad :)
23:57.16Garoun|Loupanathe pitbull modifers, is there a page with those on it ck, I reviewed the thread and couldn't find it
23:57.20_neuron_Bartender = good name imo
23:57.28ckknightGaroun|Loupana: check the lua
23:57.33Garoun|Loupanak k
23:58.09nymbiawhat the
23:58.18nymbiawhy are my buffs green
23:58.23CIA-1103fenlis * r31812 10BigWigs/ (Karazhan/Terestian.lua Outland/Doomwalker.lua SC/Hydross.lua):
23:58.23CIA-11BigWigs:
23:58.23CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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23:58.31NightHawkTheSanebecause you touch yourself at night.
23:59.13ckknightnymbia: Ominous
23:59.26Ominousnymbia: there is an option
23:59.30Ominousto disable it
23:59.33nymbiano i want it
23:59.39nymbiabut why arent they colored by type?

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