IRC log for #wowace on 20070402

00:00.00Healthnice nice
00:00.10kergothi remember that song
00:00.11kergothheh
00:00.27JoshBorkeHealth: that's the feature i'm working on
00:00.52Eternally777What does the '%' do in the following code: 'local x = (28372%36)'?
00:00.52HealthNever seen it before, saw it in that movie for the first time :)
00:00.52JoshBorkeEternally777: mod
00:00.56JoshBorkebtw, that movie shows barfader :_D
00:01.04HealthAh, is that PitBull?
00:01.21JoshBorkehealth:  possibly aguf, not pitbull
00:01.27Healthokiedokie
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00:01.55JoshBorkepitbull does have them though
00:02.00HealthSweet
00:02.34ZealotOnAStick~seen pastamancer
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00:06.13chuckgHjalte, ok it's fixed :)
00:06.30HjalteChuckg, nice! Where can i find the update?
00:06.38chuckgI'll put it on the SVN in a moment.
00:06.44chuckgGotta do my personal one first.
00:06.48chuckg=D
00:08.22CIA-1103chuckg * r31583 10cgCrafty/cgCrafty.lua:
00:08.22CIA-11cgCrafty:
00:08.22CIA-11- Fixed an issue with forcefully closing Tradeskill/Craft windows mucking up the basic panel management system.
00:08.27chuckgThere you go.
00:08.27AmadeoI'd love to be able to have the 2D portrait in place of the 3D portrait when a player is out of range, instead of the floating ?
00:08.27HjalteThanks a lot :)
00:08.36chuckgTell me if it persists.
00:08.44chuckgIt shouldn't.
00:08.58HjalteI'll test it out once it hits download reach.
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00:10.32hyperChipmunkthat last update screwed pitbull somethin' fierce
00:10.41chuckgWas using Frame:Hide() instead of HideUIPanel().
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00:14.24nymbiawho broke wowwiki
00:14.32nymbialookin at you, Kirkburn|afk  ;)
00:14.40pastamancermewowiki?
00:14.48nymbiathat too
00:15.01nymbiai needed to see some kittens.
00:15.55Nickenyfikenchuckg: i have a feature request for you. i would like an option in cgCrafty to only show orange and/ord yellow things, or is that out of scope?
00:16.07chuckgSure.
00:16.16chuckgWas that you that asked for it before?
00:16.19ckknighthyperChipmunk: ?
00:16.23chuckgI know someone requested it, I just never got around to it.
00:16.52chuckgI'm thinking about adding "have materials" just like enchanting to tradeskill, too.
00:16.55chuckgWhat do you think about that?
00:17.20Nickenyfikenyeah that sound good
00:17.34Nickenyfikeni dont think i have requested that... must have been someone else
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00:23.24ZealotOnAStickpastamancer: ping
00:23.51Eternally777ckknight: You once recommended to me that I encode my files in the UTF-8 format.  Right?
00:23.55pastamancerZealotOnAStick: pong
00:24.02ckknightyep.
00:24.34ZealotOnAStickis it currently possible (and I've just not found such) to alter the background/gradient texture in Grid, and if not, could it please be added as an option to use different textures?
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00:25.06Eternally777I seem to have started a debate in wowi-lounge about whether there's a difference between '8-bit' encoding and 'UTF-8' encoding.  Would you be willing to spare a second to enlighten us?
00:25.26ZealotOnAStickI've ghetto-hacked my personal copy by clipping a 64x64 square out of the middle of the LiteStep bar texture and renamed it to gradient32x32 or whatever the filename is.
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00:31.19NightHawkTheSaneEternally777: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8
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00:33.23Heriohas anyone seen these casing bars with lag dealies?
00:33.41Amadeothose rams are PvPing
00:33.43Eternally777NightHawkTheSane: I know there's a difference, but my problem is this: I'm writing my code in SciTE.  The first line of my code is '------------------'.  If I try to execute the document while it's encoded in 8-bit, lua.exe correctly skips that line because it starts with '--'.  But if I execute it while it's encoded in UTF-8, I get this error: "lua.exe: Core.lua:1: unexpected symbol near " and then an apostrophe and a rectangle.
00:33.59Ominousoh yea, ckknight: the casting bats
00:34.11Ominouss/bats/bars are very laggy
00:34.27Ominoussigh its supposed to be \ isnt it
00:34.40Amadeohahaha, AMBUSH
00:34.58Eternally777Ominous: s/bats/bars/
00:35.03Eternally777You forgot the trailing '/'
00:35.09Ominousoh
00:35.23Eternally777ees
00:35.28Eternally777s/ees/see/
00:37.28Kemayockknight: What are you plans for pitbull's raid frames?  I just got into a raid for the first time since TBC, and I'm feeling the deficiency compared to agUF at the moment.  :)
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00:37.47ckknightdeficiency?
00:38.02ckknightonly real deficiency is that there's no grouping
00:38.46Ominousckknight: is there going to be grouping?
00:39.58Ominousi suppose you could do that in the layout actually
00:40.33Kemayockknight: That's the one.
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00:40.56ckknightOminous: not yet
00:41.11ckknightmaybe I should work on party grouping
00:41.26ckknightat least
00:41.28ckknightraid grouping is supposed to be complex
00:41.28ckknightwith headers or something.
00:41.31Nickenyfikenthat would be very very good
00:41.40Nickenyfikeni miss that
00:41.47ckknightalso, I kinda want the frames to move with pets and such.
00:42.07ckknightwhich would be fully doable outside of combat
00:42.14ckknightjust hope nobody makes a new pet in combat
00:42.17ckknight:-P
00:44.20ZealotOnASticknymbia, you about?
00:44.42HealthPeople do summon new pets in combat :)
00:44.49Nickenyfikenso how will we decide where the pet frames is in relative to its mastes frame? with layouts or options?
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00:47.43ckknightHealth: those guys can go fuck themselves
00:47.49ckknightNickenyfiken: layouts don't handle positioning
00:48.10ckknightthe partypet group will be movable as one big chunk, I'm thinking
00:48.30chuckgckknight, warlocks resummon pets all the tiem.
00:48.42Gngskpriests too
00:49.17ckknightthey enter combat without a pet, then summon a pet in combat, wasting 15 seconds of everyone's time?
00:49.17Nickenyfikenok
00:49.17Nickenyfikenwell nightie
00:49.17Gngskdemon locks can instant summon, can't they?
00:49.29Yinchiewell they can summon extremely fast with the right talents
00:49.37_neuron_0.5 sec cast time
00:49.38HealthYeah
00:49.38ckknightjust seems odd not to have a pet upon entering combat.
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00:49.50HealthOr change pet based on arena team setup for instance
00:49.51_neuron_ckknight, well you wouldn't always intentionally enter combat :P
00:50.05Healthckknight: As a warlock you can instantly summon a new pet with a talent
00:50.14ckknightblah
00:50.21ckknightruin my plans, will you
00:50.27_neuron_as heard on our karazhan group earlier today, outside of karazhan warlock : "I may have accidentally agrivated this group of allies"
00:50.30Health/soothe
00:50.33_neuron_meaning he used seed of corruption or something like that
00:50.54Heriohaha
00:51.02Herioseed makes me cry
00:51.14Heriowe've pulled groups through walls with it
00:51.15Herionot fun
00:51.18_neuron_hehe
00:51.20_neuron_it is kinda fun tbh :P
00:51.23_neuron_when you know about it ;)
00:51.27Herionah
00:51.37_neuron_+ in world pvp seed of corruption + unstable affliction is <3
00:51.44_neuron_someone always watches who the seed hits and instantly dispells em
00:57.01CIA-1103sayclub * r31584 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
00:57.01CIA-11FuBar_QuestsFu:
00:57.02CIA-11- Updated localization koKR
00:59.36BaraiusLoving Pitbull
01:00.16BaraiusBest Unit Frames Ever :-)
01:00.20BaraiusOk...back to playing
01:00.23Baraius:-)
01:01.56kergothis there a pitbull module to change frame alpha based on range yet?
01:02.03ckknightno
01:02.50kergothk
01:03.24chutwigtime for a magtheridon party
01:03.24chutwigwoooooo
01:04.31ckknightThat's the great thing about being a 'lock...you don't have to eat; you don't have to drink; you don't even have to BREATHE. You can subsist entirely on the suffering of your enemies.
01:05.48Cryectthats also the annoying thing about fighting them
01:05.58Cryectyou can almost killt hem then you get permafeared and they go back up to full
01:06.04Cryect:-p
01:06.15Hjalteckknight, pitbull really got annoyed when i tried enabling party targets. will throw some error messages at you later, when im not healing
01:06.26ckknightk
01:06.28xyui used to be scared of locks on my mage
01:06.29ckknightare you in combat?
01:07.07Hjalteyeah
01:07.30Hjaltei reloaded ui after hiding party targets and i still get errors
01:07.55ckknighttell me the error
01:07.56HjalteNow it's messing with my 'target' making it unuseable
01:08.08HjalteI receive so many errors that bugsack is stopping :p
01:08.13chutwigexcellent
01:08.22chutwigmy mourn macro works perfectly
01:08.29chutwigand will now be spammed to death at every opportunity
01:08.48chutwigshould probably add some shakespeare to it so that it's extra classy
01:11.13chuckg"Spam my macro" and "classy" are not synonymous.
01:12.07ckknightHjalte: /bugsack show session
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01:13.58HjalteWill copy them to a pastey in a minute
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01:21.02Hjalteckknight: Many of these errors have happened over 100 times in the 10 minutes i've been instancing or so: http://ace.pastey.net/10009
01:23.34Hjalteckknight: these errors happened after disabling party targets and reloading the ui. I havent got the previous errors.
01:27.42JoshBorkeHjalte: you need to update BarFader
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01:29.07PogoHey guys, if I get OneBag with OneBank, that will show me all my bag AND bank contents in one window?
01:29.14PogoWithout me having to be at the bank?
01:29.26JoshBorkepogo:  no, you want OneView
01:29.31PogoOr I see... yeah OneView
01:29.35PogoCombined with those two, ok.
01:29.43Hjalteckknight, I'm using barfader 31582, isnt that latest?
01:29.48CIA-1103joshborke * r31585 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
01:29.48CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
01:29.48CIA-11- another little bugfix
01:29.55JoshBorkehm
01:30.29JoshBorkegive that one a try Hjalte
01:31.29HjalteJoshBorke, I will :)
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01:33.40chutwigfubar is very inconsistent about pushing the blizzard buff icons down now :(
01:36.53PogoWell... don't use blizz buff icons
01:37.01PogoThey're... retarded? I think is the word?
01:37.16chuckgYea chutwig.
01:37.29chutwigPogo: i don't like buff bars :(
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01:39.59PogoI don't like bars either, I like icons.
01:40.08PogoBut Blizz forces me to look up an dto the right to see what debuffs I have.
01:40.12chutwigif you have a recommendation for something iconic
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01:45.03kergothbuffalo works well for iconic
01:45.07kergothlets you move, scale, etc
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01:46.01Hjalteckknight, i disabled barfader and reloaded the ui and had everything run nicely. then i got these errors http://ace.pastey.net/10010 - Might have been when a mate of mine targeted something in the instance that was just out of range of me?
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01:50.14chutwigi'll give it a shot
01:50.18chutwigafter we die to mag
01:55.30chuckgHjalte, did that fix it for you?
01:55.53Hjaltechuckg, yeah, everything is working fine now with the tradeskill windows :)
01:56.16chuckgThanks.
01:56.18chuckgGlad we figured it out :)
01:57.22ckknightokay, back
01:58.18JoshBorkeckknight: wb
01:59.50CIA-1103ckknight * r31586 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull-Portrait - possibly fix nil bug
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02:12.27ckknightStaff of warlock none compare\Leaves its enemies seeing double\To defy its power none would dare\Don't report anything, I might get in trouble
02:12.36ckknighthttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/items/tinfoilhat.xml
02:12.48ckknightselect all and you'll see that poem on the left side
02:13.22PogoHmm...
02:13.38PogoNot sure how to use Oneview so that it brings up my bank bag away from the bank
02:14.58JoshBorkepogo:  click on the fubar icon
02:18.33syerenNeed to learn how to do Party Targets on AG!
02:19.56JoshBorkesyeren: it's not easy
02:20.37syeren:/
02:20.43syerenWould be amazing for warrior.
02:20.44syeren*Arena.
02:20.51JoshBorkesyeren: PitBull has them
02:21.04PogoYeah I just got the FuBar icon now. Ok so... Josh can I detach the bank bags from the inventory bags?
02:21.10PogoRight now it's one huge frame.
02:21.45JoshBorkePogo: click teh arrow next to the name
02:21.49JoshBorkefor the bag slots
02:22.23syerenThing is, my warrior doesn't want to use PitBull because he only just got happy with AG.
02:23.16syerenI have no idea what the difference between PitBull and AG is to be honest ;p
02:23.23syerenJust I have used AG for quite a while now.
02:24.54syerenWhat are the advantages of Pitbull over AG?
02:25.17JoshBorkesyeren: currently, not much.  but soon it'll be better.  see the wiki page
02:25.19trhpitbull has a cool minimap icon :)
02:25.53syerenAre you the developer Josh :P?
02:25.59JoshBorkesyeren: no, ckknight is
02:26.17syerenOki Doki.
02:26.22syerenSo it's in good hands I know already :p
02:26.28ckknightadvantages = easier to hack
02:26.33JoshBorkebut pitbull has most of the features that agUF does and then some.  it's just pitbull is still going through developing stages
02:27.05ckknightthe only big feature that PitBull is missing is good grouping capabilities
02:27.08ckknightwhich I'm working on
02:27.55syerenWill you have a better / smarter buff management display on these UF?
02:28.42ckknightthat's the eventual plan
02:28.47ckknightthey're about on par now
02:28.48ckknightroughly
02:29.44syerenGoing to own when the Grid Developer finally realises that Unstable Affliction Debuff should have priority over the Siphon Life one :)
02:29.56syerenTried adding my own debuff for it.
02:29.59syerenBut didn't work :/
02:30.04Tullerdo auto docking, you know you want to :P
02:30.11pastamancersyeren: then you didn't do it right
02:38.51syerenckknight, this is pretty nice, although I would love if I can move the posistion of my cast bar, and be able to kill the raid frames and keep my party displayed :p
02:39.45nymbiathen do it
02:39.46ckknightsyeren: cast bar position is up to the layout
02:39.53ckknightyou can hide raid frames and keep party showing in raid if you want
02:40.50syerenHow so?
02:41.00syerenI checked "hidden" on raid frames.
02:41.31ckknightdid you check the "Hide party frames in raid" in the global settings?
02:42.13syerenYup.
02:42.23syerenLet me /rl.
02:42.27syerenSee if anything changes \/o
02:42.31JoshBorkehm
02:42.43JoshBorkehide raid frames and hide party frames while in raid = show player frame only?
02:43.33ckknightyep.
02:43.38ckknightand target and whatnot
02:43.51JoshBorkesyeren: sounds like that's your problem
02:45.38syerenVery nice upto now :p
02:45.52syerenJust need something to auto-group the party and I'd use it \o/
02:48.52ckknightand I said I'm working on it
02:49.21JoshBorkefaster!
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02:51.52nymbiasomething blew up
02:52.22JoshBorkei didn't do it
02:52.52nymbiayou mightve.. but the debug stack doesnt go through fader
02:53.18nymbiahealth and auras both exploded at once
02:53.26JoshBorkecan't say i didn't warn you
02:53.36ZealotOnASticknymbia, question . . .
02:53.51nymbiasup ZealotOnAStick
02:53.55ZealotOnAStickdoes MobMitigation do physical/melee stuff too (armor/dodge/parry etc.) or just spell resists?
02:54.16nymbiajust armor, not block/dodge/parry
02:55.37nymbiackknight: http://ace.pastey.net/10013
02:56.02JoshBorkedisable barfader :-P
02:56.34nymbiawell that only happened after 15 minutes or so of farming
02:57.09CIA-1103joshborke * r31587 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
02:57.09CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
02:57.09CIA-11- one last check to make sure we don't free someone else's bar
02:57.26JoshBorkethat commit has absolutely nothing to do with the errors you're getting, just fyi
02:57.59nymbiaJoshBorke: however, i do blame you for PitBull_BarFader\PitBull_BarFader.lua:53: PitBullStatusBar4:SetPoint(): PitBullTexture30 is dependent on this
02:58.15JoshBorkenymbia: as you should :-P
02:58.25nymbiaholy crap
02:58.45JoshBorkemust be runny
02:59.12syerenpastamancer, I have my "Unstable Affilction" Debuff Aura set up the exact same way as the pre-coded Mortal Strike one.
02:59.17syerenSo it should work just like it right?
03:00.10pastamancershould
03:00.16pastamanceryou set the priority and everything?
03:00.52syerenPriority at 90.
03:00.55syerenSame as MS.
03:01.09pastamancerand assigned it to an indicator?
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03:01.47syerenI assigned it to the Center Icon.
03:01.52syerenAs much as I did there :p
03:02.21pastamancerset the priority higher than 90
03:02.39syerenAlong with MS right?
03:02.54syerenMS, UA, and SOC are the most important Debuffs for me to see ;p
03:03.06pastamancerif you want it to have higher priority than the debuff types, yes
03:03.13nymbiaJoshBorke: maybe exclude 100-0 changes?  looks a little odd retargeting from a mob with mana to one without.
03:03.13pastamanceror lower the priority of the debuff types
03:04.04JoshBorkeput it on the wiki, along with deficit/reverse options
03:04.45JoshBorkeso i can work on it after my tests this week
03:08.14CIA-1103ckknight * r31588 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
03:08.14CIA-11PitBull - add simple clustering for party frames. No options yet.
03:08.14CIA-11- add a check to the delFrame function, as some bad module fucked with it somehow.
03:08.44JoshBorkes/bad module/BarFader/ ;-)
03:09.09nymbiarofl
03:09.10ckknightbad.
03:09.21JoshBorkei dunon what i'm doing wrong so i can just play stupid
03:09.30nymbiaJoshBorke: hasnt blown up since that last commit of yours, so i'm guessing that fixed it
03:09.41JoshBorkehas it been 15 minutesy et?
03:09.47nymbiayeah
03:10.01nymbiawell after the first time i /rl'd and it happened again after 3 more mobs
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03:29.42CIA-1103ckknight * r31589 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add option for growth direction
03:31.10art3mishaha anyone watching adult swim?
03:31.17Gngskyeah
03:31.22art3misthey kept claiming all week they were gonna air the movie
03:31.25Gngskapril fool's for the loss
03:31.26art3misso they did
03:31.33art3misheh
03:32.00art3missure its about as big as a postage stamp in the corner but appearanly they're running the dialog on CC
03:33.05JoshBorkewhat movie is it?
03:33.36art3misthe athf:tm
03:33.42syerenPretty sure Everquest had the best April Fools of them all \o/
03:34.08art3misaccidental "delete of the entire userbase and a rollback to release?
03:34.21art3miscuz THAT would be the best joke evah
03:34.29ckknightart3mis: so it was all a big hoax or what?
03:34.38ckknightsyeren: what was that?
03:34.39syerenhttp://everquest.allakhazam.com/mediabox/new-models.jpg
03:34.39art3misim willing to bet money that out of 6million people we'd get at least 100 suicides
03:34.57syerenThey said they used a revolutionary new graphic engine to change the in-game models xD
03:34.59art3misckknight: no they're airing it... just without audio and its really tiny
03:35.06ckknight...
03:35.15syerenhttp://eqplayers.station.sony.com/news_article.vm?id=50397
03:35.15Amadeosyeren: I don't get it
03:35.25art3misstick figure wow would rule
03:35.27Kemayoart3mis: What movie is that?
03:35.36art3misthe aqua teen hunger force
03:35.44ckknightAqua Teem Hunger Force Colon Movie For Theaters
03:35.52Amadeosyeren: The sad thing is, the new technology looks better
03:35.57syerenAll those stick-figures are people's in game characters ;D
03:36.07art3mishehe that would rule
03:36.12art3misi did like goggles though
03:36.15art3misand Woah
03:36.34art3misheh the gmail one was amusing, a service you can add to your account that will print off and snail mail you your emails
03:36.43art3misso you dont have to waste time loggin on
03:38.54ZealotOnAStickI thought the TiSP was better than the Gmail Paper, personally.
03:39.16ZealotOnAStickUgh, horrible night raiding, and I managed in grand style as usual to make my one big mistake at a tremendously noticeable time.
03:40.23CIA-1103ckknight * r31590 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add spacing option to the grouping options
03:40.31ckknightquestion: should I even allow non-clustered groups?
03:41.22ZealotOnAStickYes.
03:41.50ZealotOnAStickSome people like to put party frames in interesting arrays.  Staggered, or 2 by 2, or arcs . . .
03:43.22ZealotOnAStickI'd say give it two modes, where you've got them grouped together with spacing options, or just "Free form" and people can move them whereever the hell.
03:43.43ckknight...fine
03:44.18PogoScrew those people.
03:44.22PogoHorizontal and vertical.
03:44.27PogoAnything else and they can just get Grid.
03:44.35syerenCo-signed.
03:44.42AmadeoI think Tuller has some pretty good sticky frame code
03:44.56chuckgI love Bongo's sticky frame.
03:45.08PogoAlthough I think a vertical health/mana bar option is sorely lacking in most unit frame mods.
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03:45.35ZealotOnAStickjust forewarning, I gah-ron-tee, if there's not some capability for putting them wherever the heck, that'll be one of the first (and frequently requested) feature requests once it really gets into some widespread use.
03:45.43PogoI'd love to layout party frames in a more compact form that I can put along the left side of my screen.
03:46.27PogoFine, add a square grid style to it, but I wouldn't make them independent.
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03:49.24ckknightbtw, the vertical health/mana deal is theoretically possible with pitbull, you just need a layout that does that
03:49.55syerenCkknight, would it ever be possible for you to assign certain debuffs to do special functions within the unit frame?
03:50.05syerenLike make the sheep Icon go over the majority of the frame for instance ;p
03:50.39ckknightI was thinking different colored debuff highlights
03:50.39ckknightor so
03:50.55syerenWith the user being able to define?
03:51.02syerenLike White for Sheep, Black for UA.
03:51.17syerenIs there the option to remove the mouse highlight over option yet Ckk :P?
03:51.35ckknightno
03:51.37ckknightyou do it
03:52.55CIA-1103ckknight * r31591 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add option for freeform movement.
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03:53.56CIA-1103ckknight * r31592 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua: PitBull-WatchdogTags - make the short modifier work with negatives.
03:56.03ckknightI believe the whole clustering thing will need to be tweaked and have an extra dummy frame per cluster
03:56.19ckknightespecially for clusters that don't necessarily have a head frame (like party1)
03:56.31ckknightyou can have partypet2 and not partypet1, for instance
03:56.38ckknightalright, gtg
03:57.08xyuwow you can use enemy soulstones
03:57.12xyuin the arena
03:57.23Amadeoenemy soulstones?
03:57.26xyufrom warlocks
03:57.30xyuto get a master healthstone
03:57.33xyufrom the opposing team
03:57.34Amadeohaha
03:57.46Amadeowhat are those stones that appear on those pillars?
03:57.53xyuto see stealthers
03:57.56Amadeothey weren't in beta that I recall, and I haven't played much arena since
03:57.59Amadeohow does it work?
03:59.13CIA-1103funkydude * r31593 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: frFR gruul's lair update
03:59.57kergothi need to hit 70 and start doing some arena
04:00.00xyuyou just step over it
04:00.04xyuand it starts to dot you for like 200
04:00.08xyubut you can see stealthers sort of.
04:00.11xyulike 20 yards
04:00.23xyuin beta they revealed stealthers after like 5 minutes
04:00.27xyuof no action
04:00.37AmadeoI see!
04:00.43Amadeois it a buff or debuff?
04:00.56xyuhmm not sure. debuff i think.
04:01.16Amadeoso mainly it affects people who are hiding out on those pillars
04:01.22Amadeoor does it have a large area?
04:01.33xyunah you "pick it up" then can run around
04:01.35xyulooking for stealthers
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04:04.02Solewhoa Ace3!?
04:04.13Amadeoxyu: oh!
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04:05.19AmadeoMazorthil Honor Shield is hilarious
04:05.24AmadeoI see it on a SHaman here
04:05.39SoleHOLY SHIT!
04:05.45SoleAce3 revolution inc
04:05.49SoleI love the idea
04:05.56CIA-1103funkydude * r31594 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua:
04:05.56CIA-11BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon:
04:05.56CIA-11- frFR updaste
04:07.06kergothdangit, itemrack 2 beta has some serious quirks/problems
04:07.08kergoth:\
04:07.11kergothi really like it too
04:07.24kergothprobably go back to closetgnome for now at least
04:07.32kergothclosetgnome+trinketmenu that is
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04:10.37Solelol Ace3 is a rather good april fool's
04:10.42SoleI fell for it for a few minutes :(
04:10.58Amadeokergoth: What's new in it?
04:11.07Amadeo...not that I know what the old one does :P
04:11.39kergothitemrack is like closetgnome in that it can mange item sets, it can do trinketmenu stuff (i.e. trinket equip queues), and it can do quick item swapping in teh character panel like swapmagic
04:11.51kergothitemrack 2.0 can do an item equip queue on any slot, not just trinkets
04:11.55kergothbased on the item cooldowns and such
04:12.08Solewhats with curse wiping the download counts?
04:12.10Amadeoah nice
04:16.06Amadeokergoth: I may have asked you this, but...any Rogue addons you can't live without?
04:16.13kergothi run quite a few
04:16.53kergothfubar_poisonreminderfu, kenergy, cutup, hemlock or atropine are all of great importance
04:17.01kergothalong with chronometer or candydice for timer bars
04:17.17kergothlocksmith is nice too for quick picking of lockboxes you pick up
04:17.23kergothbut isnt essential
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04:23.26CIA-1103jjsheets * r31595 10Omnibus/Omnibus.lua: Omnibus: Added the ability to hide Omnibus without standby, fixing the bug reported by JaedxRapture on the forums.
04:24.18AmadeoI'll check em out, thanks :)
04:24.33ckknightlol, Sole
04:24.35ckknightglad I got you
04:26.30JJSheetsI fell for it until you guys didn't answer my question about ToS violations with direct-disk access.  that was the tell.  :p
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04:27.33ckknightJJSheets: I wasn't paying attention, but it's actually not covered in the ToS
04:27.37JJSheetsbah
04:27.55JJSheetsmy ass.  direct-disk access is a nono and we all know it :p
04:29.03ckknightit's not covered in the ToS.
04:29.09JJSheetsis it even possible without hacking WoW's memory is my question, and that, I believe, is covered by the ToS.
04:29.15ckknightwe all "know" it's a no-no
04:29.20JJSheetslol
04:31.03deltronass2ass
04:31.22ckknightNoe knows no no-noes
04:31.32JJSheetsthat's actually a touch sicker than ass2mouth
04:32.39AmadeoWarden is out to get you!
04:33.51deltronyeah, i'm bored
04:34.03deltronalso, enh shaman is so fun :D
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04:43.06ckknight)) <> ((
04:45.17ckknightMe and You and Everyone we know
04:45.32ckknightin part of it, a 6-year-old has cybersex with a middle-aged woman
04:45.39ckknightand talks about ass-to-ass
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04:48.11Kemayohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi2t58CRmbU :D
04:57.28trh_oh.. nice.. by just ignoring GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE for guild roster updates and just doing it every hour saves 15kb memory growth per second :)
04:57.35trh_because that event gets fired so often
04:58.00JJSheetslol
04:58.05trh_(using the guild list for alot :)
04:58.27trh_and this event gets like called every 5 seconds
05:01.11ckknightmore like every 15
05:01.28ckknightand why is it taking up 15 KiB/s?
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05:03.53kergothtrh_: hahah
05:05.04trh_ckknight: sorting the guild list, changing a dewdrop menu with the new list and iterating through the list to see who's online
05:05.19ckknightrecycle!
05:05.23trh_ckknight: and creating another merged list with people that are only and haven't been synchronized with lately
05:06.57CIA-1103toadkiller * r31596 10AutoBar/ (11 files): (log message trimmed)
05:06.57CIA-11AutoBar:
05:06.57CIA-11-- 2.00.00.33 beta
05:06.57CIA-11-- Split out Mana Stone conjure buttons for Mages
05:06.57CIA-11-- Fix bg mana & heal potion categories. Requires Reset on the profile tab.
05:06.58CIA-11-- Localization fix for deDE Teleport: Moonglade and Conjure Mana Stones. Tx
05:07.00CIA-11-- Portals & Teleports category added. Includes Druid, Mage, Shaman and Warlock spells
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05:07.21trh_ckknight: have to track down which function exactly wastes that much memory =)
05:07.33trh_(i'm on it :)
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05:07.38CIA-1103sid67 * r31597 10FuBar_ChatAlertsFu/ (ChatAlertsFu.lua FuBar_ChatAlertsFu.toc):
05:07.38CIA-11FuBar_ChatAlertsFu:
05:07.38CIA-11- added support for SCT, MSBT, and Blizzard scrolling text
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05:14.42trh_great.. just checking if the entry already exists and not just creating a new one for the menu made the memory usage nearly 0 :)
05:16.48ckknightlol.
05:18.13trh_damn empty servers.. would be interesting to know the growth if many players are around
05:18.24trh_it shouldn't be high, but testing > theory :)
05:20.40CIA-1103shieldb * r31598 10Incubator/ (. Core.lua): Incubator: updated externals, minor SSC trash update
05:22.03kergothwow, i ran ramparts and stuff i actually wanted drops
05:22.07kergoththat never happens to me
05:22.12trh_kergoth: n1
05:22.23kergoth-both- items i needed out of there dropped in one run
05:22.24kergothcraziness
05:22.30kergothi have crap run drop luck, but good farm drop luck
05:22.34kergothmaybe this is a sign of a change
05:23.05trh_i think it was murphy's law, so you think you'll have look and do endless runs where nothing drops
05:23.09CIA-1103ckknight * r31599 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - now use a header frame for clustering, which will allow odd units (like partypet and partytarget) to cluster properly.
05:23.17trh_s/look/luck/
05:23.35Kaeltenopenid hurts my head
05:23.46kergothtrh_: good point, it was just trying to trick me!
05:23.48kergothfuckers.
05:24.23Kaeltenkergoth: yes fuckers, fuckers must have made it. that explains it
05:24.24Kaelten:s
05:24.31kergothhehe
05:24.52Kaeltenbut seriously openid hurts my head
05:25.02Kaeltena nice and simple straightforward 8 step processes
05:25.09Kaeltenthat is poorly documented
05:25.11Kaelten:s
05:25.23ckknightanyone heard of One Tree Hill?
05:25.32kergothyep, i watched it for a while
05:25.36Kaeltenbut I hear if your dumb you can skip thre or four steps
05:25.39ckknightmy gf loves it
05:25.47Kaeltenbut it makes things evil and prone to replays
05:25.47ckknightjust wondering if it'd be worth watching
05:25.49Kaelten:s
05:25.56trh_ckknight: my flatmate watches it, but he doesn't think it's really good...
05:26.22kergothi didnt mind the story.  the acting was pretty weak, but what do you expect for such a show
05:26.38ckknightI suppose
05:26.47ckknightThe O.C. had pretty good writing and acting, though
05:26.53ckknightat least for seasons 1 and 3
05:26.53ckknight2 was weak
05:27.01ckknightand I haven't seen 4, out of fear of weakness
05:27.07trh_in any case: heroes > oth
05:27.32ckknightoh yea, heroes > *
05:27.41ckknightprison break is pretty awesome, too, though
05:27.52trh_ya.. prison break is great too.. .also how i met your mother
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05:30.00CIA-1103nymbia * r31600 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua:
05:30.01CIA-11PitBull:
05:30.01CIA-11- Add veryshort and hidenocombat modifiers.
05:31.28trh_"Two and a half men" is also watchable :)
05:31.55trh_can't compete with himym, heroes and prison break, but it's good too :)
05:32.07ckknighthimym?
05:32.12ckknightoh
05:32.18ckknightyea, I watched a few episodes of that
05:32.30ckknightthen it turned out the Doogie Howser was gay
05:32.35ckknightand the magic wasn't in it anymore
05:32.40trh_the only thing i hate in it are these "faked laughter"
05:33.42trh_uh... he isn't in himym... at least there was no episode afair
05:36.57ckknighthe's Bernie
05:37.04ckknightor whatever his name is
05:37.19ckknighthe's the friend of the main character
05:37.39trh_true, and he constantly dates women ;)
05:38.25ckknightyep
05:40.39CIA-1103funkydude * r31601 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua:
05:40.39CIA-11BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane:
05:40.39CIA-11- add air phase timer bar
05:41.25trh_omg.. i should sleep.. downloading ATI drivers for my nvidia card...
05:41.42trh_(and even trying to install it, wondering why it doesnt detect my card)
05:49.30CIA-1103nymbia * r31602 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua WatchdogTags.lua):
05:49.31CIA-11PitBull:
05:49.31CIA-11- short and veryshort modifiers can now take a fractional number such as is returned by smarthp.
05:49.31CIA-11- Added a short'ified type to Health and Mana.
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05:55.07ckknighthttp://xkcd.com/c243.html
05:55.24ckknightnymbia: I like it :-)
05:57.14nymbiackknight: ;)
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06:02.51Heriois there anyway I can get all my unitframes to show up without getting a full party together and having people targeting stuff and such?
06:02.59Herio(configging pitbull)
06:03.57nymbiai tried to do that and UnitWatch.lua (blizz code) wouldn't let me
06:04.12Herioawww
06:04.14Heriowhat a pita
06:04.50Heriowtb config mode imo
06:09.02CIA-1103nymbia * r31603 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua:
06:09.02CIA-11PitBull:
06:09.02CIA-11- Remove debug prints in veryshort modifier.
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06:19.09ckknightHerio: I've considered it, and it's extremely complex to do.
06:21.28Feldia"shortified"
06:21.29Feldialol
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06:38.53ckknightokay, so I'm working on this configmode
06:39.26HerioI
06:39.28Herioheart
06:39.29Herioyou
06:39.37Herio<PROTECTED>
06:41.03ckknightlol
06:43.34ckknightthat wasn't nearly as hard as I thought it would be.
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06:44.19nymbianice
06:44.52HerioI'd tell you I told you so
06:44.54Heriobut I didn't
06:44.59Herioso I'm going to thank you
06:45.00Herioa lot
06:49.29ckknightall in all, it makes my job easier
06:49.35Herio<PROTECTED>
06:49.39ckknightnymbia: basically, I just unregister from UnitWatch, :Show manually
06:49.47ckknightthen to get out, register with UnitWatch
06:49.49ckknightand it all works
06:49.57ckknightand then call :OnChangeConfigMode on all modules
06:51.17ckknightactually, I'm gonna make 4 modses
06:51.18ckknightmodes*
06:51.24ckknightsolo, party, raid, and off
06:51.43Herio4 config mode states, eh?
06:51.46Herioloverly
06:52.28nymbiai thought i tried the unitwatch unregister.  damn
06:52.38nymbianice though :)
06:53.21ckknightI don't show both party _and_ raid at the same time
06:53.23ckknightI shouldn't config em at the same time
06:53.25ckknightthey overlap
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06:54.06trhre...
06:54.25trh<3 laugenbrötchen in the morning... poor americans that didn't got these ;)
06:56.18ckknightMögli?
06:56.59trhhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laugenbr%C3%B6tchen
06:57.07trhit's like a pretzel, but a bun :)
06:58.09Facktotum<3 chocolate croissants
06:58.44trhthey are nice too, but laugenbrötchen are great if you don't want a sweet breakfast :)
06:58.49trhso delicious
06:58.53Heriowhite chocolate raspberry scone imo
06:58.57trhstill hot from the bakery :)
06:59.41Heriothere's a really nice café across campus I go to =)
07:00.17Facktotumdo you go for the scones or the waitress?
07:00.23trhwe got one in our university inside.. it's called cafeteria :)
07:00.40Herioit's called the naked lounge >.>
07:00.43trhand a second one called "cafe einstein"
07:00.55trh(because einstein was born in my universitys town)
07:01.18Heriowe have a few on campus places to get coffee, but none compare =P
07:01.49trhhehe.. they have a few machines at our place
07:02.05trh(you insert money, they spit out coffee)
07:02.40ckknightwell, America owns the moon!
07:02.43ckknighthow do you feel about that?
07:02.46ckknightpshaw.
07:03.07Herioyeah, we have a little convience store type place where they have 60 cent cups of coffee, and a few cafes run by the student body
07:03.11trhhehe.. shall i mention that some people don't even believe the americans were actually on it? =)
07:03.23CIA-1103nymbia * r31604 10Manufac/ (Manufac-Defaults.lua Manufac-DefaultsBase.lua):
07:03.23CIA-11Manufac:
07:03.23CIA-11- Update Blacksmithing defaults.
07:03.39HerioI grew up on the moon
07:03.44Heriolived in an astroshed
07:03.45trhHerio: nice.. we don't have cafes run by students.. but our university is prolly very small compared to yours :)
07:03.50ckknighttrh: frankly, if they deceived the world, they did a pretty good job at doing so.
07:03.52trhHerio: only 8000 students or sth
07:03.56trhckknight: true
07:04.09Herioyou'd say that a shed doesn't sound like a nice place to live, but it's not bad
07:04.18Heriobut you have to go out back to use the outhouse
07:04.25Herionot fun at night
07:04.41Heriothat's when you double up on the space suits
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07:05.03Elkanoomg... so much smoke... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ELJoQVHFJI
07:05.38trhElkano: lol
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07:05.52Heriokek
07:05.52trhElkano: i'd knew some students who'd stayed in the smoke ;)
07:06.05Facktotumrofl
07:06.27Facktotumi wouldnt mind putting of a fire like that
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07:07.38trhhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=hLWw1OpDrpI <- that's geeky :)
07:08.25Heriowow lol
07:09.03trhcannon fodder was so awesome at that time :)
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07:13.23Facktotumhaha
07:13.30Facktotumthe one yelling u suck
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07:14.07sedatedChipmunkCannon Fodder?
07:14.19sedatedChipmunk<PROTECTED>
07:14.26sedatedChipmunkJools and Jops and Skidoos?
07:14.49Heriored shirts
07:14.58HerioI think it was a c64 game actually o.O?
07:15.04Heriobefore my time >.<
07:15.07trhHerio: amiga
07:15.19sedatedChipmunkthey had it for dos too
07:15.29trhya.. but original it was on amiga
07:15.37trh"war has never been so much fun" :)
07:15.44sedatedChipmunkyes!
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07:17.06sedatedChipmunki've been looking for that game for a long time, but i've never been able to find it
07:17.27CIA-1103ckknight * r31605 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua WatchdogTags.lua):
07:17.27CIA-11PitBull - added configMode setting.
07:17.27CIA-11- added module function :OnChangeConfigMode(value) - value can be nil, "solo", "party", or "raid".
07:17.27CIA-11- for WatchdogTags, if configMode is on, then [name] will return the unit id if the player does not exist.
07:18.13ckknightHerio: your job to test it
07:18.17trhsedatedChipmunk: uh? 20seconds of googling? http://cannon-fodder.en.softonic.com/download
07:18.39sedatedChipmunkwell that was like 4 years ago
07:18.51Heriouh
07:18.55sedatedChipmunknow i'm gonna have to play it again =)
07:19.00trhhehe
07:19.01Heriois it midnight already?
07:19.06trhif it still runs
07:19.08sedatedChipmunksomewhere
07:19.56HerioI'll do a bunch of testing between classes tommarow =)
07:20.02ckknightbad.
07:20.09ckknightyou requested it, you should test it :-P
07:20.12ckknightit seems to work, though
07:20.16HerioI've got to wake up for physics in 6 hrs =(
07:20.35trhis springbreak over or hasn't it begun yet?
07:20.40Herioover
07:20.47trhoh, too bad
07:20.50Heriowe had cesar chavez day off, though =(
07:20.56Facktotumphysics is fun
07:21.00Herioyes it is
07:21.06Herioit isn't at 8am though =(
07:21.10Facktotumor at least it was when i did study it
07:21.37trhas far as i know from our physicists, its hardcore math, but at the end everything lim's to 0 and its easier then ;)
07:21.57Heriohaha
07:22.12sedatedChipmunkthat video...haha
07:22.17HerioI'm on my first semester of university physics so it's not too intense =P
07:22.20Facktotumi would try a laugenbr herio
07:22.29Facktotumif it doesnt work blame trh
07:22.46Herioif I can find one
07:23.15evlckknight: can I just duplicate the Layout.lua and make another layout or isn't it ready for that yet? :)
07:23.26ckknightgimme a minute
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07:26.10CIA-1103ckknight * r31606 10PitBull/ (Layout.lua Layouts/ Layouts/ABF.lua PitBull.lua PitBull.toc): PitBull - move Layout.lua to Layouts/ABF.lua, put border registrations in PitBull.lua
07:26.15ckknightokay, evl
07:26.24evlckknight: can I just duplicate the Layout.lua and make another layout or isn't it ready for that yet? :):)
07:26.26evloops
07:26.28evlthanks :D
07:27.11ckknightone very cool thing about the config mode is that I no longer need friends to test!
07:27.22ckknightI can live cold and alone as is my destiny
07:28.17Heriookay
07:28.22Herioso
07:28.29HerioI enabled config mode: party
07:28.36ckknightright
07:28.51ckknightone issue I found is that right-clicking for the menu doesn't quite work yet
07:28.55Herioand when ticked party pet -> hidden, I got some erros
07:29.03kergothdoes config mode let you position frames without the actual units existing?
07:29.10Herioand only 1 and 3 got hidden
07:29.52Herioand as I hit it more, more disappeared, more errors, and now hitting it does nothing
07:29.56Heriowill pasty the errors
07:30.18Heriohmm
07:30.30ckknightokay
07:30.36ckknightthanks
07:30.37Heriohow do I get this buggrabber thing to come back up? it's not bugsack, I don't even know where I got it?
07:30.38ckknightyes, kergoth
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07:30.43ckknightkergoth: that's the point of it :-)
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07:31.59kergothnifty
07:32.04Heriodid blizz put in a new error system?
07:32.48ckknightHerio: not to my knowledge.
07:32.59ckknightHerio: /buggrabber 1
07:33.07ckknightor try /bugsack show session
07:33.28Herioit's not buggrabber or bugsack
07:33.58ckknightthen I don't know
07:33.58CIA-1103ckknight * r31607 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make it so you can get the config menu in configMode
07:34.26Heriowell I got it up by doing /script not valid lua ()
07:37.02evlckknight: do I need to implement porttrait in my layout at all?
07:37.11ckknightyou don't have to
07:37.23Heriohttp://ace.pastey.net/10023
07:37.23ckknightyou can even do portrait = function(frame, unit) frame.portrait:Hide() end
07:37.58evlaha, thanks
07:38.46CIA-1103ckknight * r31608 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix nil error
07:40.05Industrialckknight: that doesnt seem to work with the highlight
07:40.28ckknightIndustrial: what doesn't?
07:40.49Industrialhighlight = function(frame, unit) frame.highlight:Hide() end
07:40.55CIA-1103ckknight * r31609 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - now pay attention to PLAYER_FOCUS_CHANGED
07:41.30CIA-1103ckknight * r31610 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull-Portrait - fix bug with portraits being refreshed (making them look jumpy) every 0.15 seconds on wacky frames.
07:41.39ckknightoh, that's cause highlight is special
07:41.39ckknightit works through :Hide and all
07:41.52ckknightmaybe I should make that use :SetAlpha instead
07:41.52ckknighthr
07:41.52ckknighthrm*
07:42.07ckknightreally, an option should be put in and it should be up to the user, though.
07:42.20Industrialyea
07:42.20evli hate highlight :D
07:42.27evlbut it might just be me :)
07:42.40sedatedChipmunknope, me too
07:42.44Industrialhavent been able to upload my layout yet
07:42.49renchapwhat is a wacky frame ?
07:42.49Industrial(pass i got didnt work)
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07:42.50Heriouhm
07:42.58Heriomy frames are all gone :O
07:43.03sedatedChipmunkmakes it really hard to read health when it's around 50%
07:43.06ckknightHerio: ?
07:43.19ckknightrenchap: a wacky frame is a frame that Blizzard does not watch by default, e.g. targettarget, focustarget, etc.
07:43.20Heriodid a /rl with party config mode enabled, now I have no frames
07:43.28Elkanorenchap, iirc those that are for units for which no events are fired on updates by WoW
07:43.42renchapok, thx :)
07:43.45ckknightHerio: reenable the config mode.
07:43.56ckknightHerio: it doesn't save in the database cause it's meant to be temporary
07:44.24Industrialoh wait it does work i forgot it was dev.wowace
07:44.42Heriohttp://ace.pastey.net/10024
07:44.45Heriookay
07:45.25Herioin the config dew drop, I only get groups for player, no other frames
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07:46.07Herioand none of my unit frames are visable
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07:46.47Industrialdoes my svn:eol-style have to be?
07:46.50Industrialwhat*
07:47.05Industrialim using only LF now
07:47.05trhnative
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07:47.32trhLF then maybe? =)
07:47.44Industrialoki, i dunno heh :p
07:48.09CIA-1103industrial * r31611 10PitBull/ (Layouts/Industrial.lua PitBull.toc): PitBull: Added Industrial's layout.
07:48.13Industrial\o/
07:48.35Heriockknight: everything is back after a client crash and restart :O
07:48.56ckknightum, yay!
07:49.07trhIndustrial: try native, if it doesnt work switch to LF :)
07:49.08ckknightIndustrial: should be native
07:49.32Industrialups.
07:50.17CIA-1103industrial * r31612 10PitBull/Layouts/Industrial.lua: PitBull: Set the svn:eol-style to native.
07:50.23Heriois there anyway to hide the HP bar, btw?
07:50.32Industrial>_o
07:50.49HerioI'm thinking it would be pretty sweet to have my party targets be only the portrait XD
07:51.19ckknightlol
07:51.22ckknightthere's no way to hide HP currently
07:51.41Heriohaha
07:52.03HerioI've cleverly set the width and hight to the same value
07:52.10Herioyou know how I swing
07:52.19Fisker-nahuh
07:52.46Fisker-how fail is your layout Industrial
07:52.47Fisker-?
07:52.51Industrialoh the auras changed? :X
07:52.55evlckknight: i'm also getting a lot of black half transparent empty boxes around the frames, is it aura background?
07:52.57IndustrialFisker-: try it?
07:53.18ckknightevl: how much around? like 5 pixels?
07:53.49CIA-1103ckknight * r31613 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull-Portrait - only prevent updates on wacky frames
07:53.53Fisker-it hasn't reached the update on wowace.com/files
07:53.57Fisker-so nahuh Industrial
07:54.02sedatedChipmunktrh: sweet, runs right out of the zip in dosbox
07:54.03Industrialfail.
07:54.08Fisker-fail yourself
07:54.15trhsedatedChipmunk: n1
07:54.16evlckknight: just small black 50% squares above the target now
07:54.16IndustrialNO U
07:54.21CIA-1103ckknight * r31614 10PitBull/Highlight/Highlight.lua: PitBull-Highlight - added option to hide highlight
07:54.23Fisker-NO U
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07:54.31ckknightevl: um, *shrug*
07:54.32Fisker-i'll cut thy ball off
07:54.41ckknightevl: take a ss?
07:54.43Industrialckknight: is there any docs on the tags you can use?
07:54.43Fisker-yeah you only have one :o
07:54.57ckknightIndustrial: for now, I'd say just look in the lua, it's not too complex
07:54.57Industrialoh noes myne balls
07:55.01Industrialk
07:55.02Fisker-BALL
07:55.08evlhttp://i12.tinypic.com/4ghlc8w.jpg
07:55.35Industrialfyi i was referring to them as the (cherished) collection of, Fisker-.
07:56.35Fisker-no cause you only got one :(
07:56.37Fisker-i checked
07:56.52Heriowhen in config mode: party, I cannot open the config menu for focus by right clicking
07:57.13HerioI had it hidden at start of session, unhid with fubar plugin
07:57.14ckknightupdate.
07:57.24HerioI can do it for other frames
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07:57.58renchapckknight: what about party pet still showing while no longer in party, and only if in range ?
07:58.32evlckknight: can you see it? right aboove the target (http://i12.tinypic.com/4ghlc8w.jpg)
07:58.38cncfanaticswho is the talented author again ?
07:59.04Fisker-jerry
07:59.13ckknightevl: my guess is that it's the cast bar
07:59.14Fisker-I don't think he visits here
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07:59.24Fisker-He' just piggybagging our svn!
07:59.40cncfanatics~seen jerry
08:00.11purljerry <n=jerry@p508BE3C3.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 76d 5h 40m 37s ago, saying: 'abrotman: please part.'.
08:00.11cncfanaticsthat'll tell us
08:00.11nymbialol
08:00.11nymbiahe's around sometimes i think
08:00.11cncfanaticshmmmm, and autobar ?
08:00.11Fisker-toadkiller
08:00.11Fisker-don't think he's around either
08:00.13cncfanaticsthe last update of autobar stopped working for me -.-
08:00.14Fisker-but he visits the forums
08:00.40cncfanaticsbleh, talented & autobar are bugged :(
08:01.09Fisker-works fine here
08:01.19CIA-1103jerry * r31615 10Talented_Data/ (Talented_Data_deDE.lua Talented_Data_enUS.lua): Talented_Data: update
08:01.21doktoreasanyone uss WUU?
08:01.34cncfanaticsdoktoreas, me
08:01.43Industrialckknight: ew this svn:line-endings barfed icky stuff over my document
08:01.47doktoreascncfanatics, hi
08:01.58cncfanaticshi :p
08:02.00cncfanaticswhats up ?
08:02.01CIA-1103ckknight * r31616 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make sure party frames are hidden if GetNumPartyMembers() == 0
08:02.02doktoreaswhen run updating local version, it doesn't get any version number
08:02.06doktoreasand it takes 3 sec
08:02.21doktoreasthe same happen for online updating
08:02.24cncfanaticsit works fine here
08:02.33cncfanaticsyou sure the addons are set to the correct website ?
08:02.34Fisker-fail
08:02.40Fisker-needs global layout switch
08:02.47doktoreascncfanatics, wich mean correct site?
08:02.55doktoreasthe matter is also for local one
08:02.59cncfanatics:o
08:03.05cncfanaticshmmmm, using linux I guess ?
08:03.10doktoreasi think it's a matter of view
08:03.12doktoreasyes
08:03.27cncfanaticswhat python u use ?
08:03.28doktoreasfor example grid its highlited by pink
08:03.33doktoreasand works fine
08:03.39doktoreasa sec logging in
08:04.15Heriois there any possibility that we can have shared target coloring in pitbull's party frames like oCB's MT frames do?
08:04.20doktoreascncfanatics, 2.4.3
08:04.40doktoreaswxpython 2.6.3.3
08:04.46CIA-1103nymbia * r31617 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua:
08:04.46CIA-11PitBull_Portrait:
08:04.46CIA-11- Fix odd camera angle when swapping layouts.
08:04.57Herioor is that offered through the blizzard's MT api
08:05.16cncfanaticsdoktoreas, 2.4.4 here, and working fine everywhere in WUU
08:05.25cncfanaticsI doubt thats the issue, but maybe try updating ?
08:05.47Fisker-bah nymbia
08:05.52Fisker-i was about to whine about it :(
08:06.52[Ammo]morning
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08:06.58ckknightshared target coloring?
08:06.58ckknighthey [Ammo]
08:07.03cncfanaticsmorning [Ammo]
08:07.20[Ammo]shared target means every unit that is your target as well gets highlightee
08:07.26[Ammo]similar to my oRA2 mt frames
08:07.27Fisker-focustarget = focus' target?
08:07.50[Ammo]allows you to quickly see if you're on corehound X
08:08.26Herioyes
08:08.51[Ammo]coul dprobably be a simple module :)
08:09.07Heriolike if you have a designated main assist, you can check to see if you have the same target as them because their MTT frame is yellow if you do
08:09.21Herioor tanks can check if they are targeting the same mob (do'h)
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08:09.52Herionice in a 5man to make sure we (the DPS) are all on the same mob
08:09.59evlckknight: It seems that the castbarBg isn't hidden when you change your target
08:10.09ckknightokay
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08:11.49cncfanaticshmmm, thats as simple to do as if (frame.unit == target) right ? :p
08:11.53doktoreascncfanatics, wich source do you use?
08:11.58doktoreasfor updating
08:11.59Gngskwhere's the best place to farm warped flesh?
08:12.06CIA-1103ckknight * r31618 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull-CastBar - hide bg when the castbar gets hidden (hopefully)
08:12.07ckknightcncfanatics: not quite
08:12.20ckknightcncfanatics: UnitIsUnit(frame.unit, "target")
08:12.22cncfanaticsdoktoreas, i'm on debian, so apt-get :)
08:12.46Fisker-i hate grinding primal fire :o
08:12.58Fisker-any good mobs other than those on the elemental plateau?
08:14.14evlI just mine
08:14.15evlfel iron
08:14.23evlHmms, you can do the ones north in blade's edge
08:14.35CIA-1103ckknight * r31619 10PitBull/Highlight/Highlight.lua: PitBull-Highlight - change how the highlighting of targets works. highlight is hidden by default for target, targettarget, and targettargettarget. all others will show.
08:14.43evlto put it this way, i'm combat mutilate specced rogue, there is no worse class/spec to grind elementals with :P
08:15.25Fisker-If i get unlucky with crits a fire elemental on the plateau can actually kill me :P
08:15.38evlwhat class? :o
08:16.00Fisker-paladin :(
08:16.07evlI almost puke just by thinking about the elemental grind now, I've just grinded 14 Primal Air for my cloak :
08:16.09Fisker-of course if i don't heal myself
08:16.29Fisker-or shield and bandage :P
08:16.52Fisker-reminds me that i have to destroy somebody :o
08:16.55evlckknight: the square is still there, but now it's completely square like 25x25px when i change targets
08:16.59Fisker-I remember almost getting pwned by a priest
08:17.05Fisker-Divine Shield + Hearthstone!
08:17.11Fisker-Then i thought oh wait, mass dispel
08:17.21Fisker-and there was this ledge so i jumped off it down towards the earth
08:17.27Fisker-But his dispel hit me midair
08:17.34sedatedChipmunkevl: never underestimate the total offensive impotence of a resto druid
08:17.40evl:D
08:17.51doktoreascncfanatics, now it get online version, but not local one
08:17.54ckknightevl: hover over it, /print GetMouseFocus().castbar.bg:IsVisible()
08:17.56CIA-1103sayclub * r31620 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua:
08:17.56CIA-11Babble-2.2:
08:17.56CIA-11- Babble-Fish-2.2 : Updated localization koKR
08:18.16cncfanaticsdoktoreas, really weird :/
08:18.40evlckknight: it says nil :)
08:18.44cncfanaticsdoktoreas, I got no idea :/ tried the WUU forum ?
08:18.48Industrialckknight: hmm, what changed on the auras? :P http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/5500/wowscrnshot040207101720yk8.jpg
08:18.52ckknightthen that's not the castbarbg
08:19.24ckknightIndustrial: the buffs are now actually parented to auraFrame (making the scale actually right)
08:19.25Industrialthey seem to be bigger now and i can split them?
08:19.31Industrialah
08:19.34ckknightand there's also the possibility of auraFrame2
08:19.38doktoreasi'l post it there..thank for your support
08:19.39Industrialok
08:21.42cncfanaticsdoktoreas, sry for not being able to help :/
08:21.43KirkburnThe modules like BarFader and Banzai - are they likely to become part of PitBull, or will they stay outside?
08:22.35doktoreascncfanatics, np :D
08:22.49doktoreasnever known a such friendly debian user ;)
08:23.43ckknightKirkburn: I may throw em in if I feel like it
08:24.20cncfanatics:)
08:24.28CIA-1103industrial * r31621 10PitBull/Layouts/Industrial.lua:
08:24.28CIA-11PitBull:
08:24.28CIA-11<PROTECTED>
08:24.28CIA-11<PROTECTED>
08:25.37cncfanaticsIndustrial, u around ? :o
08:26.31Industrialhai2u
08:26.48cncfanaticspew2u :)
08:26.57cncfanaticsplanning to lvl that priesty on BD ?
08:27.17Industrialyeah but not _now_ now. got some school stuff
08:29.48Fisker-gb2/coding/ Industrial
08:32.32CIA-1103ammo * r31622 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: display casting target. probably only works for the "player" unit since it depends on UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT
08:33.34Fisker-fuck you
08:33.35Fisker-:(
08:33.43Fisker-You threaten our people with slavery and death
08:33.46Fisker-you insult my warchief
08:34.16KirkburnHe didn't /just/ insult your warchief *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*
08:34.20mitch0well, tell him to not run to the next pull when all the casters are oom :)
08:34.36cncfanaticsmitch0, ur casters got to stop slacking :p
08:34.43mitch0and also l2tank at least 2 mobs :)
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08:37.34Fisker-you're gonna get cunt punted
08:38.31Elkanowho was the one to blame fo Waterfall?
08:38.33Industrial... ouch..
08:38.45[Ammo]Elkano: nargiddley
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08:40.22CIA-1103nymbia * r31623 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua:
08:40.22CIA-11PitBull:
08:40.22CIA-11- nil error fix in short and veryshort modifiers.
08:40.29NargiddleyElkano, what have I done now ?
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08:41.58CIA-1103rophy * r31624 10SimpleCombatLog/ (6 files):
08:41.58CIA-11SimpleCombatLog:
08:41.58CIA-11- Added deDE localization.
08:41.58CIA-11- Combat logs with skill but not source will have source shown as "N/A".
08:41.58CIA-11- 'trade' messages should be back.
08:42.04ElkanoNargiddley: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5467.msg91186#msg91186 I think it could be a bug in waterfall
08:43.12NargiddleyElkano, k think i know what the problem will be gimme a sec
08:43.40Elkanomaybe it isn't accepting numbers as table keys, yet
08:43.59Nargiddleyyeah tht'll be it
08:44.09Nargiddleytrying to look for "1" instead of 1
08:44.22KirkburnMy god, that's crazy-stupid!
08:44.43CIA-1103elkano * r31625 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: .SharedMedia-1.0 - added a nil check
08:44.52yacoobVerse Studios announced today that they have officially 'changed everything', with the release of their first game: Fool's Gold. Fool's Gold lets players take on the role of the heroic gold farmer seeking profit from gold hungry characters who seem to have an unlimited amount of money to spend, but never enough time to spend it.
08:44.53KirkburnOh, wait, I had sarcasm set to 'on'
08:45.54CIA-1103sayclub * r31626 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua:
08:45.54CIA-11Babble-2.2:
08:45.54CIA-11- Babble-Fish-2.2 : Sorry, Babble-Fish-2.2.lua utf-8 fix
08:46.05CIA-1103ckknight * r31627 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua:
08:46.05CIA-11PitBull-WatchdogTags - for format strings, ("%d"):format(2.9) == "2", but
08:46.05CIA-11("%.0f"):format(2.9) == "3", since %d takes the floor and %.0f rounds. I like
08:46.05CIA-11the rounding one better, so a few formats (like in short and veryshort) have
08:46.05CIA-11been changed to that
08:46.14ckknightnymbia: ^---
08:47.07nymbiackknight: sounds good
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08:50.41sbul
08:50.50sbumorning ;o
08:51.18Gngskhi
08:53.43nymbiawhat the... why does curse want my phone number?
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08:55.02Gngskfonsex
08:55.20nymbiaguess so
08:57.08mitch0what forum is the "correct" one to report game bugs?
08:57.30KirkburnEr, the "Bugs" one?
08:57.31Laricworksell it to gold sellers to circumvent all the spamfilter addons being developed :P
08:58.10Kirkburn"Bug Report Forum" ... looks kinda obvious to me
08:58.35mitch0ah, you have that on the .us...
08:58.55CIA-1103nargiddley * r31628 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Now handles numerically indexed options tables properly
08:58.58mitch0we've only got technicl support and in-game customer care
08:59.03NargiddleyElkano, that should do it
08:59.15KirkburnTech Support then
08:59.24mitch0but it's not really "tech"
08:59.29KirkburnWhat type of error?
08:59.40mitch0it's the friggin elemental prefering to attack sheep/pigs
08:59.50mitch0even if 4 other mobs are beating on us...
08:59.51KirkburnOh, GM then
09:00.02KirkburnTech would be for stuff with errors I guess
09:00.09mitch0I'll do that (not much hope though...)
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09:00.37cncfanaticsjust ask someone on US to post it
09:01.04mitch0please, someone on US post a bug report about WE breaking sheep even if there are a lot of other mobs beating on the party
09:01.05mitch0there
09:01.55cncfanaticsmitch0, ain't WE player controlled ?
09:02.08mitch0not entirely
09:02.42cncfanaticsit is ... that I know of anyway
09:02.43mitch0it auto selects a new target if the current one dies
09:02.45nymbiayou can tell em what to kill
09:02.57cncfanaticsmitch0, put it on passive -.-
09:03.01cncfanaticsand tell it what to do urself
09:03.06cncfanaticsthats just the pet AI, it IS stupid
09:03.18KirkburnThat's odd ... the Archived news page for WoW.com is called "rss-03-2007.xml" ... where's the damn RSS feed?! :(
09:03.46abbat_wmitch0, put pet into passive after summon
09:03.56abbat_wand all be ok
09:04.14cncfanaticsor better, get a WE addon that does all the shit about the WE auto
09:04.28abbat_wthats right, pet can break sheep if you attack someone then make a sheep. in this situation pet always break sheep if not in passive
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09:05.12cncfanaticsdefensive ftl
09:10.26Fisker-the faggery daggery doo cannon has been engaged
09:13.09CIA-1103next96 * r31629 10SimpleCombatLog/localization-koKR.lua:
09:13.09CIA-11SimpleCombatLog :
09:13.09CIA-11- Update locale koKR
09:13.16mitch0abbat_w: problem is: pet doesn't remember it's "stance", so every time it comes out in defensive
09:13.32abbat_wyep
09:13.37mitch0and /petpassive doesn't work from the same macro as the pet conjure
09:13.47abbat_wafter you do attack, pet loose stance
09:14.01cncfanaticsmitch0, use petpassive on ur sheep macro ?
09:14.11cncfanaticsso ur pet stops doing whatever he was when u cast sheep
09:14.26mitch0then it would stop attackin its current target. not much use having it around then, is there?
09:14.49cncfanaticsmitch0, just tell it to attack again when sheep is done ...
09:14.56cncfanaticsits just to be on the safe side with sheep
09:14.58mitch0the problem is, fight starts, I sheep, I consure elemental, I tell it to attack mob, mob dies, pet attacks sheep
09:15.09nevcairielthats normal for all pets
09:15.17abbat_w=)
09:15.20abbat_wahah ;)
09:15.24abbat_wyep
09:15.30abbat_wbut not for mages ;)
09:15.35mitch0but there are 4 more mobs attacking us and the sheep is the most far away one!
09:15.37mitch0for god's sake
09:15.38abbat_wour sheep is very, very important
09:15.39abbat_w;)
09:16.00nevcairielbut the sheep is the second mob on its list, because you "attacked" it first, sheeping it.
09:16.11mitch0but that's stupid
09:16.30nevcairielreskill fire and you dont run into that issues, heh
09:16.34abbat_wMaybe this is for pvp, coz anyway you got diminishing return after some time ;)
09:16.57abbat_wDon't know why pet break sheeps in pve
09:16.58mitch0it should never attack a CCd mob without an explicit /petattack (or two, for more safety :)
09:17.26cncfanaticsnevcairiel, agree, fire ftw
09:18.01mitch0I'm frost almost since day one, and I like it pretty much apart from this one issues that always makes me screem with my elemental :)
09:18.12nevcairieli know all pets are that stupid
09:18.14mitch0s/issues/issue/
09:18.38nevcairielbut with other classes you dont run into that issue, because you cannot cc
09:18.55mitch0if I put the pet in passive then tell it to attack someone and that mob dies, will it continue to attack other mobs or will it stay passive?
09:19.20nevcairielnot sure, i think it will only attack on direct command
09:19.58mitch0ok, so a fix for the default stance and/or /petpassive working right after conjure would be enough for me
09:20.10mitch0but the bestest (sic) would be to fix the stupid AI
09:20.31nevcairielanyway, i am off again, need to flush a mole out of our garden :P
09:25.30mitch0btw, is the "pettarget" unit available? do I get an event if pet changes target?
09:25.42abbat_wmitch0, patattack
09:25.57mitch0no, I mean as a unit for inspection, so to speak
09:26.09mitch0UnitBuff("pettarget", i) or somesuch
09:26.16abbat_wah, don't sure
09:26.37mitch0I'm thinking of writing an addon that would play some ugly sound and big red "STUPID PET" sign whenever pet changes target to a CCd mob
09:26.54nevcairiellol
09:27.17mitch0too bad they nerfed the targeting stuff from lua
09:27.25CodayusShadowfiend is awesome for breaking CC.
09:27.43nevcairielshadowfiend always manages to do that too yea
09:27.50CodayusSic it on a mob...and it'll stand around, run in circles, break shackles, wander off into the next room and aggro other mobs....
09:28.14abbat_w=))))
09:28.16HealthOnly problem is that the shadowfiend isn't really controllable
09:28.22HealthYOu get no pet bar
09:28.28CodayusYeah, but it's targetable.
09:28.34abbat_wHahha ;)
09:28.38HealthYeah, but it tends to go for another target anyway.
09:28.44abbat_wIt's best pet on game then i think ;)))
09:28.50CodayusI used it on Midnight.  It stodd right next to me and did nothing.  I ran over to Midnight.  It attacked Attumen.  ...
09:29.15Fisker-awesome
09:29.44CodayusI guild priest used it on Moroes.  It attacked a shackled add.  I used it on Curator during Evocate.  It chased on Astral Flare.
09:30.22mitch0best part about WE breaking sheep is that I usually pull it out during trash fights if shit hits the fan and we need that extra edge (double pull, patrol, whatever). and then the stupid thing desheeps the mob so we have even more trouble :)
09:30.31CIA-1103nymbia * r31630 10Surfaces/ (Images/Perl2.tga Surfaces.lua):
09:30.31CIA-11Surfaces:
09:30.31CIA-11- Adding a texture that I made for my horrible uf addon back in the day. Since the name 'Perl' is thoroughly occupid by that other one, I'll gracefully entitle this one 'Perl 2'.
09:30.52Fisker-Perl Alternative!
09:30.59nevcairielNymbia Perl!
09:31.01mitch0purl?
09:31.10CIA-1103fenlis * r31631 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
09:31.10CIA-11Babble-2.2:
09:31.10CIA-11<PROTECTED>
09:31.11nymbiapurl, you suck
09:31.22purlno, *you* suck!
09:31.22mitch0ooor, pearl?
09:31.22mitch0pebble
09:31.22CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31632 10ACP/ (ACP.toc localization-deDE.lua localization-koKR.lua): ACP: de and ko locals
09:31.33nevcairiel~botsnack
09:31.33purlnevcairiel: :)
09:31.50Fisker-double the data force
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09:34.47renchapckknight: the "Hide highlight" options seems to be buggy
09:34.51nymbiaaww i was interested in the conversation
09:35.46SunTigerin a please die horrible sort of way ?
09:35.57cncfanaticsexactly
09:36.14ckknighthow is it buggy?
09:36.54renchapi still have an highlight
09:37.50renchapi upload a screenshot
09:39.45evlsam ehere :)
09:39.50evli got 2-3 highlights stacking
09:40.19LaricworkKirkburn you like cats I take it :P
09:40.23Laricworkmeowwiki
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09:44.50Kirkburnheh, yes
09:44.58KirkburnNever owned one in my life, my I love kitties
09:45.15chuckgHmm, I need some opinions.
09:45.25chuckgDoes it make more sense to:
09:45.37chuckgA) create a frame for each blizzard panel, and set the position and forget it.
09:45.43Kirkburns/my/but/
09:45.48Kirkburndamnit
09:46.12chuckgor B) Create frames as needed, and recycle the same 2-3 that get created (thereby using :SetPoint and other type stuff) each frame show.
09:46.26chuckgI'm currently doing the former.
09:47.22renchapckknight: http://perso.renchap.com/wow/WoWScrnShot_040207_113725.jpg
09:48.41ckknightdepends on how many frames
09:48.41ckknightand how anal you are about memory
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09:49.00ckknighthehe
09:49.03ckknightyellow!
09:49.41chuckgWell, one frame per ui panel.
09:50.23chuckgAt least 30.
09:50.58chuckgWith a few that I can't help but create a frame for each, because of the nature of them.
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09:53.49sbu<3 party targets
09:55.31echos[2007/04/02 02:53:41-78-x1]: ACP\localization-deDE.lua:16: unfinished string near '",'
09:59.41mitch0sbu: what party targets?
10:00.00sbuuhm - pitbull party targets? :o
10:00.07mitch0ah
10:00.16mitch0do they work for pets as well?
10:00.17renchapckknight: [2007/04/02 11:50:57-561-x18]: PitBull-r31627\CastBar\CastBar.lua:169: attempt to index global 'castdata' (a nil value)
10:00.30ckknightinform the author
10:00.37ckknight[ammo], I believe
10:00.41Gngskyah
10:02.06Fisker-renchap your langauge confuses me
10:02.09Fisker-and you should feel bad
10:02.28renchap^^
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10:04.26ckknightmitch0: partypet targets?
10:04.38mitch0yep
10:05.07mitch0my question is if it shows partypets' targets or not
10:05.37mitch0oh, and another one: is there a mobhealth type mod that works with pitbull?
10:05.59CIA-1103ckknight * r31633 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add partypettarget support
10:06.01ckknightyea, it supports partypettarget
10:06.05ZealotOnAStickdoes MobHealth3 not work?
10:06.08mitch0ckknight: :)
10:06.10ckknightMobHealth3 works
10:06.15mitch0k, thanks
10:06.29sbumhhh
10:06.33ckknightmhhh?
10:06.37ckknightmhhh!
10:06.39sbuyep!
10:06.43sbuso many targets
10:06.50sbuno idea where to put them all :o
10:07.08sbuits party - then party target, party pets, party pet target, focus, focus target
10:07.08nevcairielckknight in PitBull RegisterDefaults, "party" would apply to all party1-4 frames?
10:07.09Grollckknight i love pitbull :D only things is there was some problems last night in a raid that a raid window popped up although it was hidden when someone joined the raid i think.. and the same in a party
10:07.09sbuwah :)
10:07.36sbuguess i have to size them to 100x10 or something like that ;o
10:07.38ckknightyes, nevcairiel
10:08.00nevcairielgood thing
10:08.59mitch0guess I'll check out pitbull. haven't used any unitframes that look different from the default blizz ones, but I'll give it a go
10:09.49mitch0I'll have to check what else I'm using from CT. guess not much. oh, the tooltip reposition thing. what do you guys recommend for that?
10:10.19ZealotOnAStickTinyTip
10:10.51ckknightGroll: odd
10:11.08Fisker-hm :o
10:11.11ckknightGroll: lemme look into it
10:11.22renchapckknight: found a new bug (again ^^)
10:11.23Fisker-will i have to hide 40 seperate frames or can i hide all raid frames at once?
10:11.32renchapcombat text still showing, but faded
10:11.38ckknightraid is considered one big group, Fisker-
10:11.45ckknightrenchap: blah.
10:11.54ckknightI think that's also [ammo]
10:11.57Fisker-pehw
10:12.04renchapok :D
10:14.52mitch0tinytip looks nice
10:14.52CIA-1103ckknight * r31634 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - possibly fix bug where hidden frames become shown.
10:14.53mitch0makes one of the features of my addon obsolete :)
10:14.53Elkanowow, this is something really crazy ^^ http://wii.hl2world.com/media.html... HL² played with a wii remote
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10:14.53CIA-1103nymbia * r31635 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua:
10:14.53CIA-11PitBull: ABF:
10:14.53CIA-11- Move the status bars in a few pixels closer to the portrait when it's shown.
10:17.50CIA-1103sayclub * r31636 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua:
10:17.50CIA-11AutoBar:
10:17.50CIA-11- Updated localization koKR
10:19.44nymbiackknight: i've still got highlights sticking around on load, but toggling hide highlights on and off seems to get rid of em
10:20.04ckknightoh
10:20.04ckknighthrm
10:20.06ckknightyea
10:20.12ZealotOnAStickckknight, what's still on the near-term todo list for features for PitBull?
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10:21.05ckknightZealotOnAStick: raid groupings
10:21.16CIA-1103ckknight * r31637 10PitBull/Highlight/Highlight.lua: PitBull-Highlight - hide highlights at start if disabled
10:22.22nymbiaman, blizzard's buff filtering fails
10:24.17Fisker-wyou mean like a candy?
10:26.48ckknightnymbia: oh yea, if you want to, feel free to make your own filtering
10:26.52ckknightit'll need to be done eventually
10:27.04ckknightI mean, priests don't see the shield debuff thing
10:27.07ckknightweakness whatever
10:27.14ckknightthat's important
10:27.33Elkanowell, they can neither cast nor dispel it ;)
10:28.17nymbiai dont see some buffs i can cast as a mage
10:28.57renchapsame with prayer of mending
10:29.32renchapwhen it jumps you no longer see it
10:30.28ckknightnymbia: odd
10:30.43ckknightnymbia: it should catch all nonpassive buffs that you can cast
10:31.37Grollckknight good quick fix :P testing it later on :D
10:32.34Industrialwhats the idea behind buff filtering?
10:32.51Industrialonly show your buffs on party unitframes?
10:33.12nymbiackknight: you'd think so. my armor spells dont show, and i think some ranks of amplify or dampen
10:37.20HealthI think I'll test PitBull tonight.
10:37.33HealthAnd start whining about all broken things!
10:38.30CIA-1103ammo * r31638 10PitBull/ComboPoints/ (ComboPoints.lua combo.tga): PitBull: add graphical combopoint counter in addition to the textual one.
10:39.37[Ammo]renchap: what is the problem with the combat text fading?
10:39.46[Ammo]renchap: when does it occur wrong
10:39.48ckknightlol, awesome youtube comment: This video made me finally understand what pedophiles look like.
10:40.39Stephmwckknight: so the guy had the screen off and watched his own reflection?
10:40.54renchapi dont know when it occurs
10:40.56ckknightjoke result: failure
10:41.02renchapcant reproduce it
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10:41.18renchapi heal myself, and the +75 is displayed, but faded
10:41.23renchapeven 5 minutes after
10:41.29[Ammo]sometimes?
10:41.30[Ammo]or always
10:41.35renchapsometimes
10:41.35nymbiai've gotten that too
10:41.38[Ammo]hrmf
10:41.41nymbiararely
10:41.45[Ammo]weird
10:41.56[Ammo]I think it's due to the reusing of frames
10:41.59[Ammo]or sumthing
10:42.02[Ammo]I'll see what I can do
10:43.13renchapand [2007/04/02 11:50:57-561-x67]: PitBull-r31627\CastBar\CastBar.lua:169: attempt to index global 'castdata' (a nil value)
10:44.01CIA-1103ammo * r31639 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: fix line 169 error in castbar
10:44.08renchapthx :)
10:44.54CIA-1103ammo * r31640 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua: PitBull: possibly fix lingering combattext
10:44.57CIA-1103Tristan * r31641 10T_RPP/T_RPP.toc:
10:44.57CIA-11T_RPP:
10:44.57CIA-11- toc changes
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10:45.45Fisker-lmao
10:45.45Fisker-"Location of Demise"
10:45.48Fisker-best corpseway message ever
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10:46.22CIA-1103helium * r31642 10AutoBar/Locale-zhTW.lua:
10:46.22CIA-11AutoBar:
10:46.22CIA-11- updated locale zhTW
10:46.23CIA-1103ammo * r31643 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua: PitBull: more resetting of alpha for combattext
10:46.34[Ammo]it should hopefully not occur again
10:46.39ckknight[Ammo]: it should :SetAlpha(1) on delFrame
10:46.39ckknight...
10:46.44[Ammo]oh
10:46.53[Ammo]doesn't delFrame reset that stuff?
10:47.06ckknightit should.
10:47.13nevcairielHm
10:47.17ckknighttake a look in PitBull.lua
10:47.21[Ammo]ok
10:47.23ckknightnear the top, line 157ish
10:47.34nevcairielcan i access the module specific DB in a Layout, or shall i have that options inside the layout itself?
10:47.57ckknightnevcairiel: you should have the options inside the layout, make a DB for the layout itself
10:48.07[Ammo]it sets the alpha to 1
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10:48.51CIA-1103nymbia * r31644 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua:
10:48.51CIA-11PitBull_CastBar:
10:48.51CIA-11- Bail from castbar frame creation on wacky units.
10:48.51CIA-11- Hide Cast Bar options from appearing in the dewdrop for some (all?) wacky unit groups.
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10:50.20cncfanaticsdisconnect ftl
10:50.35Grolloh ckknight i had another bug last night i came to think off.. if i have more than one frame over the other.. like 2 partyframes on top of eachother.. or if it was pet and it's owner and i tried to drag one of them, only the frame was dragged but the text stayed
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10:52.11ckknightodd
10:52.15ckknightshouldn't do that
10:52.38Grolli'll see if i can reproduce it when i log on later on
10:52.42ckknightyea
10:52.48ckknightthat's what I was gonna suggest
10:53.06Grolli'll get back to you if it happends again :)
10:53.49CIA-1103Tristan * r31645 10TGuildFrame/ (EnableAlts.ReadMe.txt TGuildFrame.lua TGuildFrame.xml):
10:53.49CIA-11TGuildFrame:
10:53.49CIA-11- Mostly Layout changes, includes rank etc
10:54.43CIA-1103Tristan * r31646 10RaidHelper/common/Communication.lua:
10:54.43CIA-11RaidHelper:
10:54.43CIA-11- Renamed in .toc to RaidOfficer+ as it's a better name
10:55.15ckknightslowly but surely, PitBull will become complete
10:55.43ckknightit's actually been easier than people have made it out to be
10:55.58ckknightas far as people saying that unit frames in and of themselves are a bitch
10:56.28[Ammo]I need to try that barfader
10:56.30[Ammo]sounds nifty
10:57.28nymbiathis veryshort modifier is turning out to be handy for targettarget(target) frames
10:57.31renchapckknight: can you increase the max frame width to 400 ?
10:57.50ckknightwhy do you need it to be a width of 400? :-P
10:58.21ckknightjw
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10:58.56nymbiai've got my target at 275, i can see needing to go bigger at small scale settings
10:59.25CIA-1103Tristan * r31647 10RaidSpy/ (Core.lua RaidSpy.toc):
10:59.25CIA-11RaidSpy:
10:59.25CIA-11- Corrected a spelling error where Predefined Karazhan checks would end up in the wrong category
10:59.29CIA-1103helium * r31648 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:
10:59.29CIA-11FuBarPlugin-2.0
10:59.29CIA-11- Updated locale zhTW
11:00.13CIA-1103ckknight * r31649 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - increase max width/height to 400
11:00.21nevcairieli cant get my options to show in the Layout .. wth .. i basicly copied ABF stuff
11:00.47HealthIs there a MobHealth module to pitbull yet?
11:00.58nymbiano module ;)
11:01.01nymbiacore supports it
11:01.04HealthI see
11:01.41nevcairielaura_options = function(group) return { <aceoptionsstuff } end,
11:01.45nevcairielthat should work, right?
11:01.47ckknightnope.
11:01.55ckknightwhere is the frame .aura created?
11:02.10nevcairieldoes it have to be the same name as a frame? doh.
11:02.26ckknightyep, and if the frame doesn't exist, it doesn't show the option.
11:02.45nevcairieloh well abusing auraFrame then
11:03.26HealthNice to see the whole Ace community create a hot player frame
11:03.37nevcairielyay its working
11:04.12nevcairieli added an option to ABF to move the auraFrame top/bottom/left/right .. but left looks funky because it does fill from left to right .. :p
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11:04.58ckknighthrm, yea
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11:05.43ckknightnevcairiel: there should be options in the aura module itself to do a left-align, right-align, split-align stuff
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11:06.09nevcairieli was trying that
11:06.15nevcairielbut the layout positions the frame
11:06.17[Ammo]hmm is it seperator or separator?
11:06.21Wiebbeyo
11:06.23[Ammo]e vs a
11:06.37[Ammo]in proper english ;)
11:06.37Wiebbehumm
11:06.40[Ammo]sepa sounds best
11:06.40Wiebbethe latter?
11:06.42nevcairielsepa
11:06.42[Ammo]yeah
11:06.52Wiebbei always use www.dictionary.com ^^
11:06.59Wiebbesince i'm not native english :>
11:07.16Fisker-i died because of you [Ammo]
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11:07.34nevcairielckknight: that was what i was trying earlier tho, but since the frame is positioned in the Layout itself, and i cannot access the settings .. or well not without some cheating.
11:07.42Wiebbei never knew there was such an active irc channel for wow coding ^^
11:07.57ckknightnevcairiel: if you do want to cheat, make a proper method on the aura module
11:08.10ckknightWiebbe: well, this is specifically wowace
11:08.19Wiebbeyeh i know
11:08.26Wiebbei've always been an ace lover ^^
11:08.32Wiebbeits sexy :>
11:08.33ckknightokay then
11:08.37IndustrialWiebbe: #wowi-lounge
11:08.40Wiebbealthough that sounds just wrong
11:08.41nevcairielfull aura module is locale .. obvioulsy that could change, or the position info could be stored in the auraFrame
11:08.41ckknightI can be sexy too :-(
11:08.46Ominousckknight: hey can i commit my changes to the combo module which display small frames to the right of target with you combo points
11:08.51nevcairiel*local
11:09.00knarf-so whats a good combination of addons for tradeskills and crafting ?
11:09.07ckknightOminous: what do you mean?
11:09.18nymbiaOminous: [Ammo] added graphical combo points a bit ago
11:09.20ckknightOminous: [Ammo] made a commit to it earlier to show bubbles
11:09.28Ominousoh...
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11:10.09Ominousckknight: is it an external module?
11:10.20ckknightno
11:11.08[Ammo]Ominous: it can be layouted however you want
11:11.24[Ammo]add the comboPoints = function() to the layout file
11:11.37[Ammo]and position that
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11:11.56Ominousbah, helps if i update :P
11:12.08[Ammo]then loop for i =1,5 do comboPoints["combo"..i]:SetTexture et cetc
11:12.12Ominousyea :)
11:12.13[Ammo]to set their points and textures
11:12.23[Ammo]the default is bottomright filling from right
11:12.26[Ammo]aka unknownlayout
11:13.00Wiebbeguys, something i couldnt really find on the wiki, there isnt really a AceGui replacement right? (next to waterfall i guess?)
11:13.38ZealotOnAStickSo, I wonder how long until we start seeing interesting PitBull user layouts.
11:13.46CIA-1103nymbia * r31650 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua):
11:13.46CIA-11PitBull:
11:13.46CIA-11- Add 'Mini' style to health and mana text types, displays curhp/curmana:veryshort; handy for very small frames.
11:13.49ckknightWiebbe: there's also Dewdrop
11:13.58Wiebbebut thats for drop down menu's right?
11:14.09ckknightyep.
11:14.11Wiebbelike Bigwigs/Ora2 have at the minimap?
11:14.19ckknightyep
11:14.24HealthI think it's time for me to convert to regular unit frames rather than a hud
11:14.30[Ammo]shiftclick bigwigs / ora2 for the waterfall :p
11:14.35Wiebbeyes, for configuration that works fine, but i was looking at something more.. i needed an interface to export some text.. i just created it myself in xml
11:14.43[Ammo]xml ftl :p
11:14.50Wiebbebut i was wondering if there was an AceGui one
11:14.56Wiebbewhere i could create the interface code wise
11:15.03Wiebbe[Ammo], i agree ^^
11:15.12HealthJust use the db file?
11:15.18vhaarrWiebbe: I made one for NRT.
11:15.22Wiebbethat sucks, my guild mates are lamers
11:15.28Wiebbethey dont want to have to find an lua file
11:15.30Wiebbe"hidden"
11:15.36Wiebbethey want to copy/paste the text from wow :P
11:15.41Wiebbevhaarr, NRT?
11:15.53vhaarrWiebbe: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/NRT/
11:16.05Wiebbeoh, i thought it was a shortcut for something
11:16.06Wiebbemy bad :)
11:16.06vhaarrWiebbe: :CreateTrackerFrame
11:16.20Wiebbelol
11:16.22Wiebbeits an raid tracker
11:16.30Wiebbethats what i am making as well :>
11:17.32Wiebbei see vhaarr
11:17.40Wiebbethats just regular wow-lua
11:17.43Wiebbenot using a lib?
11:17.49vhaarrNot for that function, no.
11:17.57ckknighta lib is unnecessary for that, really
11:17.59ckknightand overkill
11:18.15Wiebbewell, i'm kinda new :)
11:18.21Wiebbedidnt know you could do it like that..
11:18.25vhaarrWell there it is, just copy/paste.
11:18.27Wiebbei coded before 2.0
11:18.31Wiebbeheh
11:18.34Wiebbeill "dismantle" it :P
11:18.37Wiebbedont like c/p'ing ^^
11:18.39Wiebbedont learn from it
11:18.43Wiebbe*wont
11:18.59CIA-1103Tristan * r31651 10Tankalyze/ (Core.lua Tankalyze.toc):
11:18.59CIA-11Tankalyze:
11:18.59CIA-11- Spellings
11:20.18Wiebbeawesome addon vhaarr
11:21.02vhaarrthank you
11:21.15Wiebbeits awesome in its simpleness :>
11:22.01Wiebbevhaarr = rabbit? :P
11:22.07vhaarryes
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11:30.53CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31652 10Bartender3/Defaults.lua: Bartender3: now using new ['**'] options in defaults
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11:33.29Grollckknight will pitbull have config stuff more like nurfed does when it's complete or will it be more like it is at the moment and such? :P
11:34.20ckknightI've never used nurfed
11:34.23ckknightso, yes.
11:34.32ckknightto both.
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11:35.05renchapckknight: when you are a ghost, you still have life
11:35.13renchapin the health bar
11:35.33Grollckknight lol :P oke
11:35.53ckknightrenchap: how do you kill that which has no life?
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11:37.02nevcairielit has life, thats the problem :P
11:37.07renchapyup ^^
11:37.10renchapi am a ghost
11:37.22renchapand i have like 10% life
11:37.37knarf-don't you got like 1 life when dead? :>
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11:45.37CIA-1103nymbia * r31653 10PitBull/ (Mana/Mana.lua WatchdogTags.lua):
11:45.37CIA-11PitBull:
11:45.37CIA-11- hidemaxhp and hidemaxmana now compare UnitHealth to UnitHealthMax instead of value to UnitHealthMax, so they can be used on tags other than just curhp and curmana.
11:45.38CIA-11- Added fractionalmana tag. Same as "[curmana]/[maxmana]", just includes the slash in the passed string so modifiers that hide it will hide everything.
11:45.38CIA-11- Added hidenomana modifier, hides string if the unit has no mana bar whatsoever (will NOT hide for something like a warrior with no rage).
11:45.43CIA-11- Use [fractionalmana:hidenomana] in Mana module defaults (behaves identically to before, except hides text when the unit has no mana bar).
11:46.33Wiebbevhaarr, i am looking at the code, but it is correct that if you for instance kill High king maulger, you get the question to log it for each boss you kill there? (ie, maulger and each of his adds)
11:46.54vhaarrWiebbe: That might be true, yes.
11:47.11vhaarrFeel free to fix that.
11:47.42Wiebbehmm, one way would be to wait untill you are out of combat
11:47.54HealthWorks great for hunters!
11:48.57Ominousckknight: can i commit my layout?
11:49.02Wiebbeyou dont go out of combat at raid bosses right Health?
11:49.09ckknightyea, sure
11:49.10Wiebbeie, you cant drink/eat anymore as a hunter
11:49.19sergio_yes you can
11:50.05nymbiasome fights
11:50.07nymbianot others
11:50.30sergio_it's pretty moot with wisdom and viper
11:50.53HealthWiebbe: You get out of combat as a hunter when you feign
11:51.08Wiebbebut when you get back up
11:51.11Wiebbeyou are in combat again
11:51.12Wiebbei see
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11:51.28HealthYeah
11:51.59nymbiain many raid boss fights, combat is reapplied as soon as it's lost.  so the aggro drop is still there, but you dont get any window to drink
11:52.41CIA-1103ominous * r31654 10PitBull/ (ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua Layouts/Ominous.lua PitBull.toc):
11:52.41CIA-11PitBull:
11:52.41CIA-11-Added my layout
11:52.41CIA-11-Fixed OnUnknownLayout in ComboPoints which caused comboPoints and comboText to be put to default layout if only 1 layout was missing
11:53.31ckknightokay... we should totally declare a race war against leprachauns
11:53.37sbuWiebbe: and what about e.g. moroes, where you kill boss and then his remaining (shackled) adds? latest kill would be proc warrior -> useless, guess its best to have those bosses harcoded: name x, y, z, maulgar -> "maulgar"
11:53.53nymbiawho had a date with a leprachaun?
11:54.01Wiebbesbu, correct me if i'm wrong
11:54.07Sroshand isn't it spelled leprechaun?
11:54.10nymbiaor.. was that someone in my guild? bah
11:54.12Wiebbebut didnt they add the anti-zerg protection in the game when in 2,0?
11:54.19Wiebbeso you cant even enter the instance when an fight is in progress
11:54.28Wiebbeand shackled or polied adds keep in you combat
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11:54.30nymbiaWiebbe: that's been in a while
11:55.10nymbiaWiebbe: 1.11
11:55.12sbuyeah sure, you will stay in combat - but then it would account loots to last mob -> "prot warrior" and not "moroes" (got killed before)
11:55.22WiebbeAh, that is true sbu
11:55.33ZealotOnAStickYes, but not mind-control.
11:55.53Wiebbenymbia, didnt remember which patch ^^
11:56.28nymbiapatch.txt to the rescue ;)
11:56.40Wiebbethat thing is huge :P
11:56.44Wiebbectr-f i guess? :)
11:56.58nymbiayup
11:57.40Wiebbesniff
11:57.45Wiebbei still have WoW-1.2.3-enGB-patch.exe in my directory
11:57.53nymbiaheh
11:58.42[Ammo]Ominous: why did you not just add your layout specific stuff as an option to ABF?
11:59.01[Ammo]Ominous: it's just abf with portrait disabled, aura's on another side and combopoints vertical on the side
11:59.15[Ammo]it's bloating without adding anything really new
11:59.56WiebbeBut i am wondering if the adds from maulger/moroes even have the "worldboss" classification and not just elite
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12:00.38nymbiawowhead to the rescue this time
12:00.47sbuat least for moroes they are just elite undead
12:00.50nymbiathey're ??
12:00.52sbuuhm
12:01.05nymbiafor maulgar that is
12:01.10[Ammo]they are elite 71 and 72 or something for moroes
12:01.11[Ammo]I think
12:01.17[Ammo]for maulgar they are ?/
12:01.35Ominous[Ammo]: i thought ckk wouldnt want people messing with abf
12:01.49ckknightI have no problem as long as you don't fuck it up
12:02.04[Ammo]I really suggest adding it as an option
12:02.11[Ammo]similar to the portrait left right etc
12:02.12sbuhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Baron_Rafe_Dreuger
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12:02.51nevcairielthats reminds me, i need to collect the exalted ring
12:03.03Wiebbepff, i just have the honored one :<
12:03.10Ominous[ammo[ i will
12:03.11sbuhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Krosh_Firehand
12:03.15sbumaulgar adds are 'boss"
12:03.27nymbiakrosh is my bitch
12:03.33sbuhehe
12:03.49[Ammo]Olm is my bitch
12:03.59Wiebbei'm the MT's bitch
12:04.03PollekeI'm using the UIDropDownMenu_* set of functions to create a dropdown menu. Right now I can only get it to have selected one option at a time, I want to be able to select multiple options. Is this possible?
12:04.11Wiebbebut that sucks, why couldnt they just be normal elites ^^
12:04.34sbukrosh is my bitch's (mage) bitch :/
12:04.55nymbiaWiebbe: that's kinda a rare circumstance.  maybe an exclusions list?
12:05.16Wiebbeyeh, thats what sbu said as well ^^
12:05.23[Ammo]that's why BigWigs has a .enabletrigger table and a wipemobs table
12:05.33[Ammo]specifically for those extra adds
12:06.14renchapnrt bugs with romulo and julianne event too
12:06.25sbumh - i think i asked that before [Ammo] but - it is possible to get 'in bossfight' state from bigwigs?
12:06.47[Ammo]sbu: no, use deadlybossmods
12:06.50vhaarrrenchap: NRT doesn't bug on anything, it works just fine.
12:06.55sbu[Ammo]: mhh - no :o
12:07.00sbui dont like
12:07.05sbu"disconnect user" :/
12:07.09Wiebbeit just doesnt know better renchap
12:07.10Wiebbe;)
12:07.22Wiebbegood point though, romulo and Julliet
12:07.28Wiebbesame with Wizard of Oz
12:07.33vhaarrYou get a popup, so what?
12:07.37vhaarrJust click the fucking No button.
12:07.42Wiebbevhaarr, no offense
12:07.47Wiebbebut i would reaaaaaly hate that :P
12:07.57vhaarrThen don't use it, I didn't code it for you anyway.
12:07.58[Ammo]use CTRaidtracker, not NRT then
12:07.59Wiebbei want to click the MT
12:08.05Wiebbevhaarr, i never said it sucked?
12:08.11Wiebbei was just thinking of a solution?
12:08.20vhaarrWiebbe: I'm welcome to any solution.
12:08.41Wiebbeyes, i know, but i never intented to downtalk any of it
12:09.00CIA-1103sayclub * r31655 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer: Updated localization koKR
12:09.10vhaarrhm, there's one thing I could do.
12:10.35Wiebbe[Ammo], CTraidtracker is fun and all, but reallllly bloated, it eats memory like a madman
12:10.43Wiebbeatleast it used too
12:10.43CIA-1103rabbit * r31656 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Give the scheduled event for last boss killed reset an ID, so that we reschedule it on every boss.
12:11.54ckknightwhat's NRT stand for?
12:12.01vhaarrIt's secret.
12:12.11ckknightNew Raid Tracker?
12:12.13vhaarr;)
12:12.17vhaarrcheck dev
12:12.20ckknightNova Red Truck
12:12.40ckknightNight Roxy Tyrone
12:12.40nymbiaNudist Raid Tracker
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12:12.51GngskNot Really Tested
12:12.59Wiebbelol
12:13.06ckknightlol
12:13.26ckknightNot a Raid Tracker
12:13.31vhaarrNectar from Raddish Tubbers
12:13.58CIA-1103sayclub * r31657 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua: Cartographer: typo fix
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12:14.29[Ammo]Negative Rabies Test
12:14.34nymbiaooh what'd i typo this time
12:14.49[Ammo]check the diff!
12:15.23nymbiaoh boo it was a localization typo
12:15.29Wiebbepfff
12:15.37Wiebbecheck your korean nymbia
12:16.02nymbiaseriously
12:16.24abbat_wyou korean not so good as you english ;)
12:16.34abbat_wni hao, nymbia. 100 mian bao ok ty? :)
12:16.37ckknightgon bon wa?
12:16.59nymbia~flee
12:17.10purlACTION runs away screaming
12:18.47vhaarrWiebbe: If you have any suggestions for NRT, I'm open to them.
12:18.52vhaarrWiebbe: They'd have to be small, though.
12:19.02vhaarrI don't want to create some raid tracking beast.
12:19.07vhaarrSomeone else can do that.
12:19.09Wiebbeif its ok with you ill "steal" some stuff your NRT?
12:19.15Wiebbeidea/bits of code
12:19.16vhaarrIf you credit me, sure.
12:19.21Wiebbeofcourse ^^
12:19.22knarf-Is there any addons around to enchante your tradeskill professions? i'm kinda fond of ATSW atm but it does have some bugs now and then :) and was wondering if there where any other mods around with some of the same functionality as ATSW but maybe done in another way?
12:19.30vhaarrWiebbe: But I'd rather you just suggested changes and I incorporate them in NRT.
12:19.33vhaarrIf possible.
12:19.40Wiebbevhaarr, yes, but you want to keep it small :)
12:19.45vhaarrindeed
12:19.55ckknightforking ftl
12:19.56Wiebbefor example, the guild chat stuff is cool and all
12:20.07Wiebbebut i would want to be able to turn if on/off
12:20.13vhaarrI can add an option for that.
12:20.15Wiebbebecause i dont like blatant spamming the guild :p
12:20.24vhaarrWiebbe: And also an option to change the custom channel.
12:20.30vhaarrAny other things you need?
12:20.31Wiebbefor the subs?
12:20.37vhaarrsubs?
12:20.44Wiebbesubstitutes
12:20.50vhaarryes
12:20.58Wiebbewe call it subs :>
12:21.01vhaarrThe custom channel is so out-of-guild alt characters can get notified, too.
12:21.27Wiebbei'm gonna use it tonight at gruul's
12:21.35Wiebbeso i will see what i really miss or not :P
12:21.42abbat_wbtw guys
12:21.47abbat_ware you run arenas?
12:21.50vhaarrWiebbe: Want options for the guild spam and custom channel for tonight, then?
12:21.55Wiebbebasicly what i wrote myself was an addon that started and raid, and you "added" events through it
12:21.59abbat_wcan you advice me with some good addons for arena?>
12:22.06nevcairieli run arena
12:22.07Wiebbevhaarr, no, dont rush yourself for me
12:22.12nevcairielwithout any special addons.
12:22.14Wiebbethe guild can wait a for that
12:22.14vhaarrwell, I'll see what I can do.
12:22.14abbat_wmaybe fast target switching, marking, etc
12:22.27vhaarrWiebbe: Do you still need the option to whisper, though??
12:22.32vhaarrs/??/?/
12:22.58Wiebbethat people whisper me with alts you mean?
12:23.01vhaarryes
12:23.09Wiebbenoy really i guess, most alts, if not all, are in the guild
12:23.14abbat_wnevcairiel, what you use for focus? are all you team members just use vent and voice communication for focus someone?
12:23.43Wiebbe?
12:23.44Wiebbe:P
12:23.52Wiebbe./RW KILL THE MAGE!!
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12:24.46Wiebbevhaarr, basicly if i use it, i wait untill the raid if, and press the "take attendance" button
12:24.53Wiebbethen it puts all raid members in the list
12:24.58Wiebbeand allows people to whisper if needed
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12:25.09Wiebbeafter 2 minutes it closes, and it watches for loot and boss kills
12:25.21knarf-nymbia given the grid module reguarding who is healing who more thought? :P
12:25.21sbuEPGO rocks as DKP system :)
12:25.31vhaarrWiebbe: You are not making sense.
12:25.48Wiebbesorry, that was what its currently doing, atleast what i can read out of ir
12:25.54Wiebbebnah
12:25.58Wiebbeiam forgetting words again
12:25.59Wiebbe..
12:26.19Ominous_sigh: internet has just gone really unstable
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12:27.55Wiebbewhat i ment, was that, you wait untill the raid is full, then you press the "Take Attendance" button.. after that it works by itself? (ie, registering loot and bosskills)
12:28.43karnIs the ace2 gui tutorial up to date? I've just tried it and can't get it working.
12:29.40vhaarrWiebbe: It starts when you join a raid, you do not have to take attendance.
12:29.44WiebbeKadish_, you mean this one?
12:29.48Wiebbesdgfs
12:29.54Wiebbekarn, you mean this one? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceGUI_Tutorial_-_Getting_Started
12:30.11vhaarrkarn: AceGUI is old, unmaintained and rotten, you should not use it.
12:30.33karnYes. That one as well as the follow up: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceGUI_Tutorial_-_Simple_Dialog
12:30.40Wiebbeyes, like vhaarr says
12:30.42Wiebbethats Ace1
12:30.51Wiebbei asked the same thing today, if there was an Ace2 version
12:30.53karnWhere would be a good place to start?
12:31.02Wiebbevhaarr, pointed me here: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/NRT/NRT.lua
12:31.10Wiebbeit shows how to use code to make an frame with a button
12:31.16vhaarrWiebbe: I pointed you there because that does exactly what you wanted.
12:31.18Bibi`ouFDewdropLib\Dewdrop-2.0\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:233 Dewdrop20Level1:SetPoint(): Couldn't find region named 'PitBull'
12:31.20Wiebbetrue
12:31.23vhaarrWiebbe: Not because it's a good example for UI creation.
12:31.38Wiebbebut its still an nice example
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12:31.45vhaarrthank you
12:32.01mitch0what's the current "leet" raid mod? grid? or oRA?
12:32.03Wiebbewith that you can look up the function and find out how it works
12:32.16Healthmitch0: Those are two different addons
12:32.17Wiebbemitch0, oRa and Grid are two very different things
12:32.18Wiebbe:P
12:32.22mitch0ah
12:32.39WiebbeoRa is an raid addon for leaders, has some stuff like checks.
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12:32.46Wiebbegris just shows raid players in a "grid"
12:32.51Wiebbeto heal and check for debuffs
12:33.05Nickenyfikenhmm PitBull castingbar is buggy for me :-/
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12:33.34mitch0so if I use decursive and am not a healer, then I don't need grid at all
12:33.34knarf-ckknight can't you disable your name in the health bar? :>
12:33.35[Ammo]Nickenyfiken: buggy how?
12:33.35Wiebbemitch0, thats up to you
12:33.35Wiebbei use grid as warrior
12:33.38Wiebbeso i can check how the raid is doing hp/mana wise
12:33.49[Ammo]I use grid to see who's noobing and who's not
12:33.50Wiebbeits small and shows an good example of who is alive/slacking/dying
12:33.56chutwigi use the "listen to the sounds of dying gnomes" method
12:34.06Wiebbechutwig, haha ;)
12:34.08mitch0:)
12:34.24chutwigit's bad when our MT is one of said dying gnomes :(
12:34.31Wiebbei dont like MT gnomes
12:34.32Wiebbetoo small
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12:34.49mitch0and what about this BigWigs or whatsitsname I hear about? is that part of some other mod?
12:34.55Wiebbehihi
12:34.59WiebbeBigwigs is an Bossmod addon basicly
12:35.07kenlyricI'm sorry, you guys are using terminology I'm not familiar with.
12:35.09Wiebbeit allows you to use plugins for bosses and other stuff
12:35.16kenlyricMT means "Main Tank" where I come from.
12:35.28Wiebbeit gives warnings, messages for boss fights mostly
12:35.37Wiebbealthough its modular and you can use it for alot of stuff :)
12:35.39[Ammo]both our MTs are gnomes :p
12:35.40Nickenyfiken[Ammo]: castingbar on my target pops up but disappears again before my target have casts its spell
12:35.46kenlyric[Ammo]: oh dear god!
12:35.53Wiebbemitch0, do you know CT-RA?
12:35.57mitch0yes
12:35.57chutwig[Ammo]: they're so small and easy to not see
12:36.05[Ammo]you don't need to see them
12:36.07kenlyricthat bonus to int must really help.
12:36.08mitch0that's what I'm trying to replace :)
12:36.10Wiebbemitch0, basicly Bigwigs is the CT_RA Bossmods part
12:36.16chutwigno, but escape artist does
12:36.24WiebbeoRA is the readycheck, reagent check, durability check part
12:36.32[Ammo]Nickenyfiken: weird
12:36.34Wiebbethose two combines are an almost complete replace ment for CT_RA
12:36.34mitch0and oRA? that's only good for the ready check and such?
12:36.40mitch0and probly raid messages
12:36.42Wiebbebasicly, yes
12:36.48Nickenyfiken[Ammo]: ill have to try some more
12:36.51HealthYou have the Tank frames in it too
12:36.52kenlyrictechnically, CT_RA doesn't contain bossmods anymore :)
12:36.55Wiebbeno, ready check and raid messages are built in WoW nowadays
12:36.57mitch0k. so I'd need oRA and BigWigs and (optionally) grid
12:37.03[Ammo]ORA2 has the maintanks, the readychecks etc
12:37.06Mikmawassup poopiefaces
12:37.10Wiebbemaintank, i forgot those ^^
12:37.11Wiebbeindeed
12:37.12kenlyricoh, I need to read scroll more.
12:37.13[Ammo]nothing farthead
12:37.21Wiebbemitch0, in my opinion yes
12:37.25Wiebbedepends what your guild uses
12:37.36DynomWiebbe: ora works with ctra
12:37.40Wiebbei know
12:37.41Dynomso shouldn't rly matter
12:37.45Wiebbewell
12:37.49Wiebbeif they use Vendetta
12:37.49Wiebbe^^
12:37.53Wiebbeora RDX
12:37.58Wiebbe*or RDX
12:37.59Wiebbeyou never know
12:38.11Dynomjust spam in /rw imo
12:38.20[Ammo]rw spam ftw
12:38.26Dynomyeh
12:38.35Dynompwns lawl (thank god for addons that supress it)
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12:39.19Wiebbe:>
12:39.26Wiebbethat was fun with CT_RA in the old days
12:39.30Wiebbeeveryone turned it on
12:39.33Wiebbeyou got the LIVING BOMB
12:39.36mitch0now I only have to check ct_core. dunno what functionality I use from that (apart from tooltips, which I'll replace with tinytips)
12:39.39Wiebbeyou got like 14 whispers
12:39.43chutwigYOU ARE THE BOMB!
12:40.03chutwighated those MC runs
12:40.09Wiebbemitch0, ct_core is nice and all, but indeed, tiny tips works wonders
12:40.10chutwigit didn't take long for them to turn into runs of mostly alts
12:40.18CIA-1103roartindon * r31658 10RapidCast/RapidCast.lua: RapidCast: Added support for CBRipoff, made agUF supported as an additional casting bar
12:40.24Ominoushow do you flip a frame over?
12:40.27Wiebbechutwig, we whiped there a long time though ^^
12:40.36kenlyricI stopped going when it became even close to 1/4 alts.
12:40.43mitch0ah, some mass mail mod is needed, too
12:40.49chutwigWiebbe: we wiped more near the end than when we did when we were doing it legitimately
12:40.55chutwigbecause people stopped caring
12:41.09kenlyricchutwig: exactly. People were just going for loot off rag.
12:41.25Wiebbemitch0, true, but as far as i can recall, there isnt a "full" replacement for CT_mailmod
12:41.30chutwigso we'd try to blow each other up on geddon, suicide into the lava just to break up the monotony, have rogues tank bosses, etc
12:41.32Wiebbei know bulkmail has a mass mailing function
12:41.36kenlyricand I was like,s crew spending all that time to gear up alts and for loot off one boss.
12:41.38knarf-Wiebbe Postal works
12:41.39mitch0Wiebbe: "full" as in...?
12:41.44mitch0I only need mass send
12:41.52Wiebbeknarf-, postal doesnt have the mass mail tab?
12:41.58knarf-Wiebbe kinda
12:42.02mitch0(btw, that fubar mail plugin is kinda borked)
12:42.09knarf-Wiebbe you fill in the reciever and just hold alt while pressing your items
12:42.45Wiebbeoh really? :>
12:42.45knarf-then it sends them after you press the item :)
12:42.46[Ammo]yarr
12:42.46Wiebbehmm
12:42.46knarf-the tooltip even tells you that it works that way :)
12:42.46[Ammo]fill in receiver and spam alt-click your bag items
12:42.46kenlyricyes, it's pretty sexy.
12:42.46Mikmaso, what's new?
12:42.46Wiebbei used bulkmail :>
12:42.57Wiebbewell the problem is it sometimes goes wrong and it tries to dress me in FLASK OF THE TITANs
12:42.59mitch0hm, I kinda like to double check the items before I send...
12:42.59kenlyricI prefer it to the mass mail tab method.
12:43.21knarf-kenlyric me2
12:43.25kenlyricdifferent strokes.
12:43.42Wiebbei dont really care, as long as i dont have to drag 20 items ^^
12:43.44kenlyricI only send email to the dropdown address list, and that list only has my alts in it.
12:43.49mitch0so once you alt-click, there's no way back, right?
12:43.56[Ammo]indeed
12:43.58Wiebbenope mitch0, not with postal
12:43.59mitch0hm
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12:44.00[Ammo]alt-click and it's gonnnnnnne
12:44.06Wiebbebulkmail works though
12:44.10mitch0I'm prone to misclicking...
12:44.16Wiebbeit shows an window where you see the item links
12:44.21knarf-mitch0 shape up already!
12:44.39mitch0well, probly one can get used to that way, too
12:44.45mitch0just double check before clicking :)
12:45.03knarf-mitch0 i'm used to that I use baggins and it moves the items everytime you send 1 :P
12:45.09mitch0but do you have the "mail lag" after each and every alt-click?
12:45.13kenlyricor, don't use it to send to other people :)
12:45.14knarf-if you got more stacks of 1 type :)
12:45.28[Ammo]mitch0: there is no mail lag
12:45.28Wiebbemitch0, i think that mail lag is more your inventory addon that lags
12:45.30kenlyricjust doublecheck the name if sending stuff to an alt.
12:45.35[Ammo]I can basically spam click
12:45.36knarf-the reciever list in postal is quite handy too
12:45.37knarf-:)
12:45.53Wiebbewhat inventory addon do you use mitch0?
12:45.56kenlyricI can spam-click to send, but opening is godawful slow compared to what gmail/ctmail was.
12:46.03mitch0yeah, that could be ABP (advanced bags plus)
12:46.13mitch0I sorta like the way it does things, apart from the lag...
12:46.18knarf-kenlyric ye and I miss the info from gmail/ctmail
12:46.20Wiebbe^^
12:46.29knarf-kenlyric the one telling how much it has opened :P
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12:46.43mitch0Wiebbe: ABP
12:46.44Wiebbewhat i found out was that my bag addons are the addons that start lagging the quickest
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12:47.05Wiebbeit might start reorganising your bag the moment you send something
12:47.11Wiebbejust disable it and see what happens when sending mail
12:47.13mitch0I've thought about baggins, but I'd miss the "replace current bags" feature
12:47.27knarf-hmm can you get the rank in the pitbull castbar mod too? :>
12:47.28mitch0I can't disable my ABP, I'm gimp without it :)
12:47.29Wiebbei use Ark inventory
12:48.06Wiebbeunlaggin wow might take some sacrifices :P
12:48.14knarf-mitch0 I used ABP before too, but then it did not get updated and I switched to baggins :>
12:48.19chutwigwhat is this "squeenix resetpos is disabled" crap it keeps giving me
12:48.50mitch0knarf-: how painful was the transition?
12:49.29mitch0maybe I should just hack into baggins the replace orig slots feature...
12:49.33knarf-mitch0 I have not set up any custom bags because it is kinda hard compared to abp imho, but then again it is not like i've needed it :)
12:50.06knarf-is ABP updated and such?, maybe I should switch back to it :P
12:50.20mitch0yes, it was updated for TBC
12:50.22ssm_knarf-: "works for me" TM
12:50.38mitch0has some quirks sometimes, but mostly works
12:50.58knarf-I could also just stop using a back mod and sort the blizz bags :P
12:51.02knarf-bag*
12:51.12mitch0knarf-: yeah, sure
12:51.12knarf-I got sanity for searching anyway :)
12:51.13kenlyricI just use onebag because i'm lazy
12:51.21kenlyricand when you visit a vendor, it only opens the main bag.
12:51.21knarf-kenlyric baggins can onebag too
12:51.22knarf-:P
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12:51.28mitch0sorting by hand doesn't work
12:51.38mitch0stuff gets placed in weird locations
12:51.56kenlyricknarf-: really?
12:52.09knarf-kenlyric ye it got a onebag view, a sorted one :)
12:52.10kenlyriclast time I used it, I thought i remember it opening the main bag AND the baggins window
12:52.21knarf-kenlyric give it a try :)
12:52.28kenlyricand it couldn't do the bank, or did something goofy with the bank. I might give it another try.
12:52.49CIA-1103elkano * r31659 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua):
12:52.49CIA-11ElkBuffBars
12:52.49CIA-11- bugfixes...
12:52.49CIA-11- some changes to the DB have been done that con't be fixed by code easily: *REMOVE YOUR SAVED VARIABLES*
12:52.49mitch0ABP is goofy with the bank, too. (at least I can't figure out what it does :)
12:53.17kenlyricI'm going to backform a definition of "con't". that's an awesome word.
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12:54.33Pollekehmmm, I dont get how scopes (not the wow item) work in lua. I've seemingly global variables that work fine in one frame, and dont in another
12:54.38knarf-I really should get my dkp / raid standby mod done, I just hate making gui :/ i'd rather play :P
12:54.57CIA-1103rabbit * r31660 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Add some options, needs better wording and l10n, but I'm lazy.
12:56.28knarf-nymbia thoose interaction lines in pitbull I want them for grid healing :/
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13:00.39Wiebbeawesome vhaarr
13:01.12vhaarrWiebbe: another commit coming up soon
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13:03.50CIA-1103rabbit * r31661 10NRT/NRT.lua:
13:03.50CIA-11NRT:
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13:03.50abbat_wwhat about sound notifications in grid? :)
13:04.05abbat_wfor example if someone have curse or something else
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13:05.20Industrialany dutchies awake? :<
13:05.42Wiebbewah Industrial?
13:05.45knarf-Can you get a frame into a variable without using the CreateFrame function? :>
13:06.00Industrial"gedaan zou kunnen worden", is that correct dutch? :S
13:06.01kenlyricmeh, I can't use the debuff notification in grid, at least not the icon.
13:06.05kenlyricit hides the player's health :/
13:06.12knarf-kenlyric scale hte icon
13:06.22WiebbeIndustrial, it looks like it :)
13:06.25knarf-kenlyric well I moved the debuff notifications to the corner anyway :P
13:06.29kenlyricoh, that might work.
13:06.34Industrialmkay, i wasnt sure
13:06.37kenlyricI just use smartdebuff.
13:06.44knarf-kenlyric whats that ? :)
13:07.03kenlyriccomes with smartbuff. The new decursive apparently looks just like it.
13:07.09[Ammo]Industrial: it's correct dutch, but sounds like shit
13:07.16Industrial:p
13:07.16knarf-kenlyric okay, I use decursive :)
13:07.25kenlyricand, let's me clickcast and have it work just on that frame.
13:07.33[Ammo]as in doesn't sound 'final' enough
13:07.40[Ammo]but that depends on the context
13:07.42knarf-only thing that annoys me with decursive is that the sound is only there if you enable the live list, and that one sucks imho :P
13:07.45kenlyricthat's one thing I'd like... to have clickcasting that *just* works on the grid frame.
13:07.57[Ammo]click2cast....
13:07.59[Ammo]should work on grid
13:08.02kenlyricit does.
13:08.03[Ammo]or clique
13:08.04knarf-kenlyric i use cliue :>
13:08.08kenlyricbut it also works on every other unit frame.
13:08.11[Ammo]so?
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13:08.26vhaarrkenlyric: Fix the global ClickCastFrames table, then.
13:08.30vhaarrNot like it's hard.
13:08.31kenlyric"to have clickcasting that *just* works on the grid frame"
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13:08.57[Ammo]if you use clique you can edit that table anyway
13:09.01[Ammo]from the options
13:09.05[Ammo]and just disable everything but grid
13:09.33kenlyricI just need to train myself to use alt-click for selecting. Then it wouldn't be an issue.
13:10.00[Ammo]or bind your cleanse to a different mousebutton :)
13:10.00kenlyricor, I need more mouse buttons. 9 or 10 would be good.
13:10.07knarf-kenlyric hehe i've done that already :P
13:10.16knarf-I only got 5 mousebuttons on my mouse :/
13:10.25kenlyricabolish disease/dispel magic work with their own keybindings on the smartdebuff frame.
13:10.47vhaarrThey really need to cut down on the mana cost for Dispel Magic.
13:10.58vhaarrIt's so freaking expensive.
13:11.02knarf-vhaarr its okay imho :>
13:11.04kenlyricvhaarr: especially since they increased it because of decursive.
13:11.05[Ammo]they introduced the mass dispel
13:11.05Wiebbethats why you have paladins :P
13:11.11vhaarrkenlyric: Indeed.
13:11.16vhaarr[Ammo]: And?
13:11.24JoshBorkewow only supports 5 buttons
13:11.33[Ammo]they want you to think about using eithe rmass or speciccifc
13:11.40JoshBorkebut how you're able to 35 button combinations is beyond me
13:11.43vhaarrI don't see your point.
13:11.48JoshBorkes/to/to use/
13:11.55[Ammo]my point is it's not that expensive
13:12.06vhaarrIt is.
13:12.18vhaarrMass Dispel is our most expensive spell.
13:12.22vhaarrNot counting buffs.
13:12.30kenlyricmass dispel is nasty to use in pvp. Because it casts on five enemies even if they have nothing to remove.
13:12.37kenlyricerrr, pve
13:12.41knarf-Mass Dispell is like using the same amount of dispells
13:12.41knarf-:>
13:12.50vhaarrIndeed, except it can dispel harder stuff.
13:12.54knarf-yep
13:12.54Wiebbedoes it only remove 1 thing?
13:13.03knarf-hehe /laugh pally
13:13.09Wiebbe:(
13:13.18vhaarrWiebbe: No, it removes 2, just like normal dispel does.
13:13.18xlviican't decide whether to get mongoose or +15 agility to my main hand (vindicator's brand). suggestions?
13:13.50vhaarrIIRC
13:14.04kenlyricI haven't yet found a good fight where mass dispel is useful. Most things that affect a lot of people are fear, and it either makes them spread out too much, or is over too fast.
13:14.08JoshBorke943 mana for 5 people = 188.6 each.  366 mana for dispel magic.  (mass only does 1)
13:14.20vhaarrMass dispel is never useful.
13:14.25vhaarrOnly in pvp.
13:14.30knarf-vhaarr i've used it
13:14.30kenlyricI've seen it used on Shade of Aran, but lol, slow people deserve to die.
13:14.31knarf-:>
13:14.33Wiebbexlvii, they save th PPM is 1 p/m
13:14.49vhaarrknarf-: Where?
13:14.54Wiebbes/save/say
13:14.55xlviiwiebbe, so worth it? :P
13:14.57Wiebbebah
13:14.59Wiebbei cant use it ^^
13:15.03Wiebbei dont know
13:15.05Wiebbecalculate it ^^
13:15.12Wiebbe15 ag is what, almost 1 dps?
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13:15.12knarf-vhaarr karazhan with the mana worms that debuff with spelldmg increase :P
13:15.13kenlyricknarf-: screenshot!
13:15.21knarf-vhaarr and it looks so fancy
13:15.23vhaarrknarf-: heh, "yay".
13:15.25kenlyricwhy would you want to remove that debuff?
13:15.31CIA-1103nymbia * r31662 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua):
13:15.31CIA-11PitBull:
13:15.31CIA-11- Parent the health and mana backgrounds to the frame instead of the statusbar so we can squeeze a frame in between 'em if need be.
13:15.34kenlyricspelldamage pewpew!
13:15.40vhaarrkenlyric: Indeed, I do not dispel it.
13:15.43knarf-kenlyric because we don't really have any spelldamage pew pew
13:15.53vhaarrknarf-: Anyway, then you agree it is useless.
13:15.58vhaarrIt looks cool, though, I agree.
13:16.04knarf-vhaarr semi useless
13:16.08Wiebbethose mana leechers that are immune to magic are anti-pala tanks
13:16.09knarf-I try to credit it :)
13:16.11JoshBorkefyi, paladin's cleanse costs 90 mana
13:16.12kenlyricbut you wouldn't cast that during combat.
13:16.14vhaarrknarf-: I regret learning it.
13:16.17kenlyricor all those mana works would rape you
13:16.17vhaarrJoshBorke: I know.
13:16.22vhaarrJoshBorke: Which is why I'm whining on our dispel cost.
13:16.24knarf-seems ineffecient compared to an ordinary dispell
13:16.25knarf-:>
13:16.25kenlyrics/works/worms/
13:16.35JoshBorkevhaarr: i agree completely
13:16.45knarf-seems like it does not always dispell the debuffs
13:17.01vhaarrThe only time I use Mass Dispel is when I get Mind Controlled by mobs. And it's fucking expensive, so I regret ever learning it.
13:17.02kenlyricwell, it only does five people
13:17.06Wiebbeprob the only reason they made it more expensive is because it targets enemies as well
13:17.06Wiebbe:P
13:17.07knarf-kenlyric fade :P
13:17.12JoshBorkevhaarr: second boss in slabs :-P
13:17.15CIA-1103nymbia * r31663 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
13:17.15CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
13:17.15CIA-11- Prevent the fade bar from occasionally landing on top of the normal bar.
13:17.18vhaarrJoshBorke: yeah
13:17.26kenlyricI've had mass dispel pickup unfadeable aggro. it's a LOT of aggro-creating actions at once.
13:17.27vhaarrJoshBorke: It's a pain in heroic, he uses all my mana.
13:17.43Wiebbethat boss is a bitch anyway you look at it
13:18.01vhaarrhe is, but if I had not learned mass dispel it would've been better.
13:18.06kenlyricif it would fail on mobs/people that have nothing to remove, it would help the aggro.
13:18.14knarf-but ye vhaarr I mainly use it because it looks cool in pve atleast, I tend to use it in pvp :)
13:18.28vhaarrright
13:18.50knarf-The idea is cool though :>
13:18.59kenlyricdoes it remove stealth?
13:19.03vhaarrno
13:19.09kenlyricthat'd be fun.
13:19.11knarf-It did at some point
13:19.13knarf-:)
13:19.13JoshBorkenymbia: why not:  xFade:SetFrameLevel(frame:GetFrameLevel()-1) ?
13:19.37knarf-But that was a bug :P
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13:20.05nymbiaJoshBorke: because the recycler doesnt reset those, so there's a risk of them growing out of control
13:20.39knarf-Is there a way to get a frame into a variable btw, can't realy find anything on wowwiki :>
13:20.41JoshBorkefair enough
13:20.49JoshBorkemyVar = frame?
13:20.50[Ammo]once the BarFader has support for reverse and deficit add it to the core :p
13:21.05nymbiai just started working on that
13:21.07JoshBorke[Ammo]: i'm more than happy to take diffs for that support :-P
13:21.12nymbiait's a pretty nasty hack :(
13:21.23JoshBorkenymbia: didn't you write estimated heals?
13:21.27nymbiayeah
13:21.32JoshBorkeso you should have no problem :-P
13:21.32[Ammo]also use the self:ScheduleRepeatingEvent( "blah", 0 ) etc
13:21.38nymbiaJoshBorke: if only
13:21.40[Ammo]instead of updater frame
13:21.49knarf-JoshBorke so myvar = CreateFrame(..."myFrame"..); mysecondvar = myFrame ?
13:22.09JoshBorkeknarf-: myvar = CreateFrame(<frame type>,nil,[<parent>])
13:22.31knarf-JoshBorke I want to get a hold of the frame when its created so I can alter it once I have created it :)
13:22.36nymbiaJoshBorke: the problem is that for reverse bars, we need a 'fade in' style thing -- but that's going on on top of a bar that already got filled by _Health
13:22.41knarf-trying to make my gui in LuaSlinger :>
13:22.52knarf-my gui for an addon, that is
13:22.57nymbiaJoshBorke: so since we've got nothing to mask that out
13:23.06JoshBorkeknarf-: if the frame already has been created and has a name, you can do:  myvar = getglobal(<frame name>)
13:23.16knarf-JoshBorke thanks :)
13:23.18nymbiaJoshBorke: gotta hijack health and not let it fill that in until the fade is complete
13:24.01JoshBorkenymbia: that is a nasty hack
13:24.08JoshBorkenymbia: you have fun with that
13:24.25nymbiaoh i will
13:24.25nymbia;)
13:26.07vhaarrRunning through Westfall reminds me of the first week of retail, when I wondered why some peoples names in Ironforge were green and some were blue.
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13:27.17Wiebbevhaarr, now you are making me wonder -
13:27.23Wiebbe-_-
13:27.30vhaarrabout what?
13:27.35JoshBorke[Ammo]: i'm a n00b and didn't know schedulerepeating event: -P
13:27.39[Ammo]:)
13:27.41[Ammo]use 0 for the time
13:27.45JoshBorkeso i'm doing that now
13:27.47[Ammo]then it'll essentially be called every frame
13:27.52Wiebbeabout why they are green and blue ^^
13:27.57vhaarrlol
13:27.59JoshBorkeshould i make the duration a variable that can be changed?
13:28.01[Ammo]see CombatText :)
13:28.08Wiebbeisnt it guild/nonguild? :P
13:28.09vhaarrWiebbe: People with blue names are not flagged for PvP.
13:28.22Wiebbeoh right, i play on a pvp server
13:28.27vhaarrSo do I.
13:28.43[Ammo]blue horde -> provoke them till they go red
13:28.46Wiebbeoh, but we can still flag us
13:28.48[Ammo]then kill em
13:28.50vhaarrBut Westfall is Alliance territory.
13:28.53Wiebbeyeh, in our own zones
13:28.56vhaarrSo most of the people there are blue.
13:29.07nevcairielblue names only in some zones .. like shattrath or the start zones
13:29.07Wiebbereally.. i play this since release :P
13:29.10vhaarrWhich is why it reminds me of the early days when I did not know the difference.
13:29.21Wiebbeand i still didnt really know
13:29.25Wiebbemakes me a sad panda
13:29.26vhaarrwell then
13:29.27vhaarryou're a nub
13:29.30vhaarr:>
13:30.26AmadeoSomeone should throw a 2D portrait in PitBull for when 3D is out of range to update, instead of the bobbing questionmark :)
13:31.56knarf-What do you ppl use for browsing hte mpq files for textures ?
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13:32.04abbat_wWhere i can see UI screenies with PitBull?
13:32.10abbat_wAnyone make it already?
13:32.18HealthThere are some on the wowace forums.
13:32.23HealthSearch for the pitbull thread.
13:32.27Wiebbehttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5456.40
13:32.51Wiebbeknarf-, i used the blizz ui thingy
13:33.03Wiebbeit just extract everything to TGA or JPG or something
13:33.16knarf-hmm I guess i'm gonna try that
13:33.42Wiebbedo you want to use an blizz ui then?
13:33.45Wiebbeie the art i mean?
13:33.48abbat_wergh ;(
13:33.55abbat_wNot support 'smooth' texture?
13:33.56knarf-Wiebbe Ye, for buttons and such
13:34.08Wiebbeabbat_w, it support surfaces
13:34.11Wiebbeso you can change the bars and all
13:34.27yacoobGhrraaaaaa.
13:34.41yacoobStupid outsourced IT.
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13:39.19CIA-1103joshborke * r31664 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
13:39.19CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
13:39.20CIA-11- made ignore work
13:39.20CIA-11- got rid of the old local frame, now uses ScheduleRepeatingEvent
13:39.56nymbiadamn, conflicted
13:40.00xyuwhoa, i wonder if that guy alcaras who posted in that pitbull wiki is the same guy from my server ages ago
13:40.05xyuthat guy was cool as hell :D
13:40.38moonsorrowwhat should barfader do exactly? I see no difference :(
13:40.49[Ammo]it fades out chunks of health you lose
13:41.10moonsorrowthought so, but it's not working for me
13:41.17[Ammo]it worked for me some revisions go
13:41.25JoshBorkedoesn't work for deficit or reverse
13:41.36xyuwhat i want to know is
13:41.41xyuwhy would people want that featurE?
13:41.45moonsorrowI'm not using deficit or reverse bars
13:41.47moonsorrowjust the normal ones
13:41.58xyuwhat's the use of losing chunks of health instead of realtime
13:42.05moonsorrowthe addon is loaded, as I can set the option, and no errors in bugsack
13:42.59JoshBorkexyu:  for me personally it makes it easier to see how quickly the health is being lost
13:43.18JoshBorkebecause by having that extra bit of information it is easier to process the loss because i don't have to remember what the previous amount was
13:43.50JoshBorkeand it's eye candy
13:44.03moonsorrowany idea JoshBorke why it's not working for me?
13:44.21JoshBorkedid you set the frames to be ignored? (not that the feature worked until the last commit)
13:44.29xyuJoshBorke: oh ok that helped me understand how it works.  
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13:44.37moonsorrowsure not, I even clicked it two times
13:44.59JoshBorkeit's easiest to confirm it works with the mana bar
13:45.09JoshBorkeyou gotta be quick too, it fades quickly
13:45.32moonsorrowI'm switching my gear from naked to healing, and there is no difference
13:46.09JoshBorkecast a buff spell on yourself
13:46.13xyui'd cast something
13:46.30moonsorrowI tried with healing wave as well, max rank
13:46.36[Ammo]make a warlock
13:46.42[Ammo]and hellfire yurself :p
13:46.50moonsorrowmana goes up and down, health goes up and down, and no difference
13:46.52moonsorrow:P
13:46.53xyuor try prayer of fort :P
13:47.18kenlyricmeh, when I hit the bag icon, it opens my bag, not baggins. Is there a setting that fixes this?
13:47.21CIA-1103ominous * r31665 10PitBull/ (Layouts/ABF.lua Layouts/Ominous.lua PitBull.toc): PitBull: deleted Ominous layout and added options to ABF, to move combo points and buffs
13:47.34xyukenlyric: i just set up the keybinding
13:47.46[Ammo]cheers ominous!
13:47.51xyub for onebag and shift b for baggins :D
13:48.01Ominous[Ammo]: np
13:49.00moonsorrowwith the latest pitbull update it's working ...
13:49.00xyuyeah kudos
13:49.03xyufor that update
13:49.09xyui'm going to give pitbull another shot.
13:50.46JoshBorkemoonsorrow: well there you go
13:50.56JoshBorkei blame nymbia
13:51.00moonsorrowhaha :P
13:51.00[Ammo]haha
13:51.12[Ammo]now go support deficit and reverse
13:51.13[Ammo]and add to core
13:51.26JoshBorkewhy add to core?
13:51.27[Ammo]or add to core and don't do anything when using deficit and revere
13:51.35[Ammo]because it's nifty enough for the core :p
13:51.51JoshBorkei don't think ckknight would let me :-P  it's kinda crappily coded :-P
13:51.56nymbiai've got the reverse stuff almost done
13:52.22[Ammo]ckknight said to add it :p
13:52.37JoshBorke~logs
13:52.38purlsomebody said logs was apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
13:52.38[Ammo]so there you have it
13:52.39mitch0I wish I knew what features you're discussing :) I feel they're supor must-have stuff :)
13:52.39JoshBorkebull honkies :-P
13:52.42Mikma~lags
13:52.49nymbianot in a logged channel ;)
13:52.54[Ammo]indeed not in a logged channel
13:52.56Ominousckknight: there isnt a way to anchor the raid frames togeather is there?
13:53.43[Ammo]Ominous: not yet
13:53.43moonsorrowJoshBorke: are you going to add the way nurfed updated the health and mana bars? like when a bar drops from 100 to 50 then it would go from 100 to 99 to 98 etc.
13:53.43HealthSounds sucky!
13:53.48nevcairielsounds great
13:53.48[Ammo]so not alpha fade but dissapear
13:53.51[Ammo]could be an option for the barfader
13:53.51CIA-1103helium * r31666 10BugSack/ (BugSack-zhTW.lua BugSack.toc):
13:53.51CIA-11BugSack:
13:53.51CIA-11- Updated zhTW locale
13:53.55nevcairielwith a good cosine interpolation .. could rock
13:53.57moonsorrowit's really nice to look at it
13:54.01moonsorrowyep :)
13:54.06[Ammo]just make it optional :)
13:54.38JoshBorkeyea, that could be done...
13:54.45art3misgrid needs a picture overlay of gophers when people need healing and to play a little "squeeeeek" sound when you click them
13:54.53Mikmaummh wtf
13:54.59Mikmamy healthbar doesn't "work" anymore
13:55.01art3mishell all raid frames need it, someone go mod clique/clicktocast
13:55.04JoshBorkebut right now i'm readinga bout the stupid easy voidreaver fight
13:55.16moonsorrowhe is really easy :P
13:55.18art3misvoidreaver?
13:55.30nevcairielwhat is voidreaver?
13:55.41art3misdimenius?
13:55.47kenlyricart3mis: that was created for RDX when they first made their grid layout.
13:56.07art3mishehe yeah i just put rdx.cid back in as my raid interface and made me remember ;P
13:56.11mitch0hehe, pitbull_interactlines could have a nice spot in the most useless addon contest :) (no offence)
13:56.14nevcairielah some boss thing in the eye
13:56.18art3misbut it needs the sound effect too
13:56.26art3misthat would make healbotting fun!
13:56.38JoshBorkenevcairiel: yea, a tank and spank fight in the eye
13:56.44Mikmawho borked pitbull
13:56.53Mikmamy healtbar is so dark i can barely see my health
13:56.58[Ammo]haha
13:57.03sbuyou are dead?
13:57.04JoshBorkerofl
13:57.09sbuand its - uhm - black?
13:57.09[Ammo]it's the special if name == "Mikma" patch
13:57.12art3mishahaha
13:57.13JoshBorkelol
13:57.14Mikmastill alive and kicking
13:57.15[Ammo]took you a while to notice it!
13:57.20Mikmabut the bar is still too dark
13:57.20JoshBorkewhat sholud i call the cosine interpolation option?
13:57.32JoshBorkeSmooth Value Changing?
13:57.36[Ammo]sounds good
13:57.42kenlyricbah! mods that suck suck!~
13:57.44[Ammo]and put it in the core :p
13:57.51Mikmaplayer and party is too dark, but target is ok
13:58.04[Ammo]I hope it doesn't touch the castbar :p
13:58.06sbu("is this a wipe?")
13:58.07[Ammo]because that would be silly
13:58.29nymbiai didnt do it
13:58.41nymbia....maybe
13:58.45nevcairielJoshBorke: too bad my guild is too stupid to finally finish all the heroic quests .. if they would just focus on those just once .. ive had those done for quite some time now.
13:58.50HealthI didn't get the 100 to 99, to 98 stuff.. what's the difference from existing one?
13:59.23JoshBorkeHealth: instead of a chunk it's a fade
13:59.24[Ammo]just wait and see :p
13:59.37HealthI like the chunk :(
13:59.43Mikmanymbia: unbork it please
13:59.59HealthI want pretty instant feedback, not an animated one
14:00.05AmadeoI imagine the fade is an option
14:00.09HealthBut, it's an option as you said!
14:00.30nevcairielit would be a pretty fast animation
14:00.43AmadeoA lot of people like fading, and a lot of people dislike it
14:00.51[Ammo]you get instant feedback since the fade is fast, but yeah it'll be a proper option
14:00.53Amadeoso it's good to have as an option either way :)
14:01.21mitch0^^^ that's what the gnome devs don't seem to get :) </offtopic>
14:02.30vhaarrGnome has options, you just have to learn to use GConf.
14:02.45kenlyricbah!
14:02.48kenlyricBah I say!
14:06.55JoshBorkeMikma: did you disable BarFader?
14:07.16MikmaJoshBorke: ya
14:07.22JoshBorkedoes it still happen?
14:08.08Mikmawell let's see that did i lie
14:08.20Mikmayes, not enabled
14:08.35kenlyricwhy can't baggins figure out some things are recipes? bugs in PT?
14:08.43Mikmathe whole bar is pretty dark, it's really hard to see my lost life and mana since the colors are so close to each other
14:08.54Wiebbethe function that i assign in a tablet categor line, does it have to be local?
14:09.03JoshBorkeMikma: blame ominous then :-P
14:09.08moonsorrowJoshBorke: why aren't you starting the repeatingevent when you need it? seems like it's running all the time, isn't it?
14:09.10MikmaOminous: fix it, assclown
14:09.19Ominouswhat
14:09.24Mikmathe whole bar is pretty dark, it's really hard to see my lost life and mana since the colors are so close to each other
14:10.47Ominousi havent touched that
14:10.47JoshBorkerofl
14:10.47Mikmawell, it DID work before :D
14:10.47kenlyrichmmm.. it's not PT... I even added a filter based on name "Pattern" and it still doesn't move.
14:10.47JoshBorkemoonsorrow: i'd have to keep track when i added something and removed something from the frame table to turn it on and off.  as it stands it makes a single call to GetTime() if there is nothing to do
14:12.24moonsorrowYeah, just thought it would be maybe faster to check if the repeating event is there in your 2 if statements, if not, start it.
14:12.49[Ammo]stopping it would require a #table check though
14:13.06[Ammo]so it's either always do the GetTime() or do extra work when it's running
14:13.07[Ammo]shrug
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14:13.13JoshBorke[Ammo]: more like a next(table)
14:13.17[Ammo]yeah that
14:13.20moonsorrowsure, was just an idea :)
14:13.22DeviadHello
14:13.23[Ammo]but you know what I mean ;)
14:13.25JoshBorkeDeviad: hi
14:13.32JoshBorkesomeone broke my bar faders
14:13.33JoshBorkedamnit
14:13.39xyuit was me
14:13.52[Ammo]oh noes
14:13.52xyuNot sure how but it was
14:14.06JoshBorkestupid cosine
14:14.20DeviadCan anyone pls help me with a weird issue? After rebooting my mac the computer hangs on a screen with a ring which goes roundly
14:14.40JoshBorkeit's 'thinking'
14:14.43DeviadI had installed refit in the past days but I have never had a problem
14:15.02DeviadThe refit boot menu doesn't pop up anymore
14:15.03Tornhoofremoved power completely?
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14:15.08Deviadit goes straight to this screen
14:15.35DeviadI tried then to use refit bootable cd-rom and tried to start Linux and OSX. Linux starts fine, OSX does not
14:15.44sbuJoshBorke: thinking as in terminator?
14:17.23JoshBorkenymbia: are you sure the framelvl stuff is right?  my bars don'ts how up if i have it like you do
14:18.09Deviad:\
14:18.16DeviadI called the tech support and they told me to format :|
14:18.20DeviadCool...
14:18.25nymbiaJoshBorke: there was something else that was breaking that for me too. forgot exactly what... lets see if it works once i commit what i have
14:18.48Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5519.new#new
14:18.48DeviadHas anyone got any better idea to fix the problem? :(
14:20.13HealthIndustrial: Nice with the vent ip there!
14:20.19Industrialfuck
14:20.27CIA-1103nymbia * r31667 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
14:20.27CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
14:20.27CIA-11- Added support for deficit and reverse bar styles.
14:20.27CIA-11- This requires overriding the default statusbar's value then replacing it when the fade's over. This is dangerous, so please give this some decent testing before moving to core.
14:20.35AmadeoWho's doing the aura work right now?
14:21.10vhaarrIndustrial: lol
14:21.26Industrialchanged
14:21.34sbumh - EBBs broken :/
14:21.57AmadeoI'm wondering if it's possible to put aura buffs on the bottom of the frame and debuffs coming out the right side
14:22.02nymbiaJoshBorke: that working at all?
14:22.28JoshBorkesec, almost have the cosine stuff
14:22.43OminousAmadeo: yes
14:22.45nymbiauh oh
14:22.50DeviadAny help? :(
14:22.50AmadeoOminous: Awesome
14:22.51nymbiathat'll be one hell of a merge
14:22.54OminousAmadeo: but you have to use layout
14:23.05Ominouscustom layout
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14:24.04AmadeoI see
14:24.10AmadeoWell, at least it's possible now :)
14:24.26CIA-1103nymbia * r31668 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
14:24.26CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
14:24.26CIA-11- Why no, that was not a debug print that I left in. You imagined it.
14:24.52JoshBorkeoh god, i'm just gonna start over
14:24.55JoshBorkescrew that merge :-P
14:25.00nymbialol
14:25.09AmadeoI'm happy about the combo points too
14:25.11nymbiajust get a diff of your stuff
14:25.14Amadeonow to just get that number off my bar
14:25.16Dynomnymbia: ^^
14:25.20nymbiacuz yeah.. that's one hell of a merge
14:25.37OminousAmadeo: do you want me to show you how?
14:26.00JoshBorkenymbia: why not:  if (db.deficit ~= db.reverse)?  instead of the if and or not and not?
14:26.01Dynombtw, whats that sync-delay between files.wowace.com and the repos ?
14:26.29Industrialuhm, does PitBull use surface lib?
14:26.30AmadeoOminous: Sure!
14:26.38nymbiaJoshBorke: fear of nil/false differences ;)
14:26.39Industrialdoesnt that come with some surfaces? I only have blizzard
14:26.40JoshBorkeIndustrial: yes, you can change the textures with surface
14:27.12JoshBorkenymbia: it's teh same way ckknight does the check though, so you'll always have the same thing
14:27.31IndustrialJoshBorke: seems like it doesnt :X
14:27.49JoshBorkewell then i dunno :-D
14:28.03nymbiaJoshBorke: hm... you're right, those should never be nil.  switch away ;)
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14:28.15JoshBorkenymbia: sitll no faders :-(
14:28.35nymbiahrmmm
14:29.00OminousAmadeo: untested but replace ABF.lua with http://ace.pastey.net/10036 and set buff style to split
14:29.13JoshBorkenymbia: i'm restarting wow in case there's any weirdness
14:29.39nymbiawell wtf, they're working great in both directions for me
14:29.48IndustrialJoshBorke: hm it uses Sharedmedia wich means that youll have any other texture thats loaded with another addon that uses sharedmedia
14:29.51AmadeoOminous: Thanks, I'll try it in a sec :)
14:30.06Industrialnymbia: can we have more textures pleassh :D?
14:30.36nymbiaIndustrial: grab surfaces
14:30.37JoshBorkenymbia: i'm checking it
14:30.55Industrialah that just loads all surfaces?
14:31.09JoshBorkenymbia: rofl, it's fading up
14:31.26nymbiayeah and sharedmedia and surfaces share textures
14:31.57nymbiaJoshBorke: check if those db entries are evaluating differently
14:32.19evlckknight: I can't seem to reposition the target's castbar, I'm trying to make it stick to TOPLEFT,CENTER,UIParent but even if I clearallpoints it sticks to the unitframe
14:33.49Industrialwin :D
14:34.08JoshBorkenymbia: they are teh same
14:34.17nymbiaJoshBorke: did you switch that check in your local copy already?
14:34.39JoshBorkeoh, i know what it is
14:34.49xyuhmm what does the pitbull fubar icon look like
14:34.50nymbia?
14:34.51xyui cant' find it heh
14:35.05nymbiaa pitbull ;)
14:35.15Silviu-At first is atached to minimap
14:35.16xyustrange, you'd think that'd be noticable
14:35.19JoshBorkenymbia: i got my if's mixed up
14:35.22xyuoh
14:35.28nymbiaJoshBorke: ah ;)
14:36.17nymbiawell i'm gonna take off before the REAL problems start surfacing
14:36.18nymbia;)
14:36.24JoshBorkelol
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14:37.21nymbianaw it should work fine.. only thing i'm worried bout is rapid succesive fades for reverse mode
14:37.22xyuis there a way to set the delay on barfade
14:37.24Ominousckknight: shall i make a small module to show the raid group number ?
14:37.53nymbiaanyway, later guys :)
14:38.01HealthThat sounds like a teenyweeny module.
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14:40.52[Ammo]we had a discussion for all the strings like raidgroup, health, mana etc etc
14:40.58[Ammo]and create one module for all of them
14:41.11[Ammo]and have the layout define the strings
14:41.20[Ammo]but we'll have to wait for ckk to wake up
14:41.23Ominousok
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14:41.32HealthI think he's collapsed!
14:41.33[Ammo]then your raidgroupnumber can just be added to the layout
14:41.44[Ammo]without needing an extra module
14:43.01Industrialaarrr nymbia quit
14:43.16Industrialwhats the difference between the absolute and absolute short style for hp/mana text?
14:43.37JoshBorkenevcairiel: fyi, i stole CosineInterpolate from DreamChat :-D
14:43.54AKX^JoshBorke: for what, if I may ask?
14:44.01AKX^(You just triggered the DreamChat highlight. :P)
14:44.13JoshBorkeAKX:  for smooth value changing in BarFaders
14:44.17AKXCute.
14:44.35AKXhttp://www.robertpenner.com/easing/ might be of interest too
14:44.54AKXIn fact, someone could write an embeddable library with those.
14:44.57AKXRecliner-1.0 ? :P
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14:46.36HealthNice one.
14:47.12nevcairielJoshBorke: its ok, i just stole it from some C implementation :P
14:47.40CIA-1103helium * r31669 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarStates.lua locales/Bartender3-zhTW.lua): Bartender3: Updated zhTW locale
14:52.21xyuIn pitbull if i set the aura position to "left" it places them about 3 inches left of the actual bar.
14:52.51Ominousyea
14:52.54CIA-1103industrial * r31670 10PitBull/Layouts/Industrial.lua: PitBull: Fixed the debuff placement.
14:53.14Ominousxyu: that because its set to fill from left to right
14:53.34Ominousand im not sure how to fix that problem
14:53.38xyuIs there a fill from right to left option yet?
14:53.39xyuoki
14:53.52xyunot a big issue for me, just letting it be known
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14:54.24nevcairielOminous: thats one issue i encountered today when i was working on improved aura stuff
14:54.32JoshBorkeheh, that's really nifty
14:54.44nevcairielOminous: aura module does not know about any layouting, sadly
14:54.59[Ammo]that's something we have to teach it
14:55.22nevcairieli thought about moving the positioning into the aura module
14:55.30nevcairieland teaching the layout to talk to the aura
14:55.33nevcairielwhich would be easier
14:55.48[Ammo]I just fixed the castbar for ABF
14:55.51[Ammo]it's inside the frame now
14:55.58[Ammo]as opposed to hovering outside above
14:56.04[Ammo]testing it some more and committing
14:56.06nevcairielinside where? bottom?
14:56.09[Ammo]yeah
14:56.11[Ammo]like agUF
14:56.13Ominousnevcairiel: yea i thought of that too
14:56.14[Ammo]under the portrait as well
14:56.16nevcairielthats better :)
14:56.25Ominous[Ammo] last night when i was using cast bar it was really humpy
14:56.27Ominousjumpy*
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14:56.47[Ammo]it should not be jumpy
14:57.01Ominousactually it might hav ebeen friday
14:57.06nevcairielhehe
14:57.12nevcairielthats been some changes since then
14:57.50HealthMine was jumpy like 5 hours ago. Maybe that's they way it's supposed to be, opposed to a smooth animation?
14:57.54nevcairieloh well screw aura positions right now, i will focus on the other aura issues
14:57.55[Ammo]I need to fix the castbar to trigger a layout update when it's disabled meh
14:58.20[Ammo]but for now good enough
14:58.45CIA-1103ammo * r31671 10PitBull/ (Layouts/ABF.lua Portrait/Portrait.lua): PitBull: Castbar is now 'inside' the frame similar to how agUF abf layout had it.
15:00.35xyuwhich instance is sha'tar rep?
15:00.39Industrialhow does _EstimatedHeals work?
15:00.41JoshBorketempest keep
15:00.46xyuthx
15:00.56nevcairieleverything tempest keep .. mechanar botanica arcatraz
15:01.16xyuthink i 70 pally in very average gear can handle mech/bot ?
15:01.21xyuas main healer
15:01.31chutwighow much +healing and are they holy spec
15:01.33nevcairielalways depends on the other group members
15:01.34xyu*only* healer i should say
15:01.35CIA-1103joshborke * r31672 10PitBull_BarFader/PitBull_BarFader.lua:
15:01.35CIA-11PitBull_BarFader:
15:01.35CIA-11- added option to smooth the value changes
15:01.36CIA-11- blame nymbia if your computer blows up ;-)
15:01.36nevcairielbut i guess
15:01.38xyu800, and yes holy spec
15:01.42art3misyeah
15:01.48chutwigit's a little low but it should be doable
15:01.48Amadeo[Ammo]: That cast bar smushed up my bars!
15:01.52[Ammo]JoshBorke: barfader is missing the AceHook external
15:01.55xyui tried arcatraz
15:01.58xyubut i just dont have the healing power
15:01.58[Ammo]Amadeo: then enlarge your fricking frame
15:02.00xyufor the first boss
15:02.04[Ammo]I'll make the defaults larger :
15:02.08art3misif i can heal it in 1k healing gear and im fully shadow spec, you'll do fine
15:02.09nevcairielarcatraz is pretty hard
15:02.15xyuand the fact that our strat was shitty.  
15:02.17chutwigpaladins do not do well on fights where everyone takes damage
15:02.19nevcairielbut mecha is easy
15:02.24xyui asked the warrior if we could be put against the wall for the first boss
15:02.25xyubut he refused
15:02.25Dynomlal; everytime I switch to my console I see a pitbull commit
15:02.27chutwigpaladins will outperform priests on single-target sustained healing
15:02.27JoshBorke[Ammo]: BarFader is missing ALL externals ;-)
15:02.29xyuso i'd get knocked back
15:02.33xyuand having no bubble or hot
15:02.36xyui'd be out of range
15:02.43chutwigbut for places where you have to heal more than one person, paladins suffer
15:02.53nevcairielyou can out-range the explosion
15:03.00nevcairielif you stand 40y
15:03.05art3misi lurv pom
15:03.10art3mispom is my safety net
15:03.15CIA-1103ammo * r31673 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull: default size enlarged to make room for castbar
15:03.19[Ammo]JoshBorke: ah :)
15:03.32kenlyricchutwig... I find the exact opposite to be true.
15:03.57chutwigkenlyric: it's a good thing it's been demonstrated repeatedly that your grasp of the game's mechanics is somewhat questionable
15:04.07krkai read that as porn first :(
15:04.10kenlyricI can sustain a single target a whole lot better than I can a whole raid. I can't spam my quick heal like a pally can.
15:04.12[Ammo]amadeo set the height to 70 :p
15:04.17[Ammo]or delete your saved vasr
15:04.23JJSheetslol krka
15:04.39xyui want my revenge though. i totally want to beat that first boss ><
15:04.40krkahey JJSheets. any bugs found?
15:04.45JJSheetsnone
15:04.49JJSheetsstable as hell
15:04.50xyuyeah it was hard doing mechnar too.  all my dps'ers
15:04.52krkanothing for me to do then :(
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15:04.56xyucoudln't kite those fireels for shit
15:05.05xyuso i had to heal every one of them on the go.
15:05.17chutwigthat boss is annoying when one of the elementals comes after you at the very start
15:05.20xyupally is a real challenge sometimes. i'm having fun.  
15:05.29xyuyeah i usually just bubble it if it does.
15:05.34chutwigand you pretty much have to bubble right then
15:05.41JJSheetskrka, you could always make a version that colorizes macros.  :p  (j/k)
15:05.41Dynomxyu: typical
15:05.45xyubut if my dps'ers could kite worth a damn
15:05.48xyuwe'd be fine
15:06.00JoshBorkebotanica is probably the easiest instance to single target heal
15:06.09xyuexcellent. i'm signed up to go there now :P
15:06.14xyuand i need it for my arc key
15:06.22xyubut i want to do mech to get that healing mace for now.
15:06.25JoshBorkenone of teh bosses aoe
15:06.25Amadeo[Ammo]: That looks better :) is it possible to not always show the big blank space when there's no casting going on?
15:06.33[Ammo]no
15:06.46JoshBorkekenlyric: no class outlasts a paladin for sheer amount of health healed over time
15:06.52Amadeook!
15:06.55xyui can solo heal just about every instance, and i shine pretty brightly in Shattered halls.
15:07.03Ominous[Ammo] its still very jukpy
15:07.08kenlyricJoshBorke: exactly.
15:07.11Ominouss/jukpy/jumpy/
15:07.12[Ammo]no jumping here
15:07.13_neuron_[Ammo], hm, imo castbar should be a bit smaller compared to the hp/mp bars, atm with my current scale the castbar is bigger than my hp/mp
15:07.21Ominous[Ammo] odd
15:07.25[Ammo]weird, it should be the same size as them
15:07.31xyuI also hope healing predictions don't go outside the box.
15:07.34xyuif you're near full HP
15:07.46Ominous[Ammo: also an option not to show the icon would be good
15:07.47kenlyricif I had to flashheal a single target, I certainly wouldn't outlast a pally. And the number of fights that allow slow healing on a single target aren't exactly widespread.
15:07.59[Ammo]someone else can add the option to hide the icon
15:08.00chutwigbotanica is not very hard to heal except for the dragonhawk pulls
15:08.02chutwigthose pulls suck
15:08.06_neuron_[Ammo], could be an optional illusion on my end :P, still looks way too big compared to hp/mp imo
15:08.21xyushadow labs is pretty easy too imo.
15:08.32[Ammo]with saved vars deleted each bar should be 20px high
15:08.38chutwigit really comes down to CC more than healing for most instances
15:08.52chutwigif you can CC enough mobs on a pull, then just about anything can handle the healing
15:09.19[Ammo]the problem is probably the 5px margin at the bottom
15:09.20xyuyeah i agree.  i ran shattered halls twice in a row w/ the same class makeup,  druid, rogue, mage, hunter, and me (pally)
15:09.26kenlyricshattered halls is particularly fun when the tank can't hold aggro on four or five targets :)
15:09.27Wiebbecan someone tell me what the better coding practice is?
15:09.27Wiebbehttp://ace.pastey.net/10040
15:09.28xyuand one was horrible and one was wonderful all because the hunter knew how to trap
15:09.38Wiebbei usee two sorts of "string connecting"
15:09.48xyuthe hunters trap / kite technique made the instance like 1 hour faster / smoother
15:10.03xyuthe other guy didn't lay a single one i don't think.  and if he did it would miss every single mob :P
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15:10.35_neuron_[Ammo], I believe with the ag_unitframes the castbar was around 2/3 the size of the unitframes
15:10.45_neuron_and now with the 5px margin it looks bigger
15:10.46kenlyricI did it pally, priest, shadow priest, warlock, shammy (elemental, i think) quickest run I've been in there.
15:10.53_neuron_with unitframes I mean hp/mp bars :p
15:11.37JoshBorkehate @ sharpshooters in shattered halls
15:11.41kenlyriconly been in there four or five times, but each time, a pally tank has outperformed a warrior tank for keeping aggro during the larger pulls.
15:11.58JoshBorkekenlyric: which makes sense because consecration is such a great aoe tanking spell
15:12.41[Ammo]I'm trying to make it clearer :p
15:12.43HealthAre we talking heroic now?
15:12.52WiebbeJoshBorke, not only that, they have better multi pack skills
15:12.59[Ammo]neuron: the problem is with agUF you could not set the height
15:13.02Wiebberedoubt and reckoning scale with more mobs ^^
15:13.04xyuDoes anyone else use armory before asking for an invite into a group? heh
15:13.08JoshBorkeWiebbe: indeed
15:13.12_neuron_[Ammo], hm, yeah, true
15:13.14[Ammo]so to keep the castbar dynamic in height similar to the healthbars
15:13.15kenlyricaoe tanking helps too if dps is stupid and doesn't focus fire tank target.
15:13.15Wiebbelol xyu, i do :(
15:13.16[Ammo]I have to make a choice
15:13.20Wiebbesaldy enough
15:13.24[Ammo]I will now show a slight background for the castbar
15:13.26[Ammo]fixing that
15:13.27Wiebbe*sadly
15:13.36chutwigxyu: you can't really rely on armory to be correct
15:13.40chutwigit only updates about 3 times a day
15:13.50Wiebbechutwig, it shows you the spec and overal gear :P
15:13.56AmadeoI notice you can right click the ToT and ToTT and get the large option menu without holding control or anything...also appears even when the frames are locked, not sure that's a good idea
15:14.00chutwigit only shows you what they're wearing at the time
15:14.05Wiebbei wont believe someone will in 7 hours get heroic quality healing gear ^^
15:14.06kenlyricyou can count on it for spec, at least.
15:14.10xyuyeah but i can see their spec
15:14.10Wiebbetrue to that chutwig
15:14.12xyuespecially tank
15:14.15chutwiga healadin could be wearing +str gear at the time it takes its snapshot
15:14.20kenlyricNot so much caring what their spec overall is, but individual talent choices can tell you a lot.
15:14.21Wiebbe:<
15:14.31chutwigthe armory should probably show the time the snapshot was taken at
15:14.34chutwigthe date alone doesn't tell you much
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15:14.55HealthI'm not sure I'd pug for heroic :p
15:15.08Wiebbemy paladin spec is 5/44/12
15:15.09Wiebbe:(
15:15.20Wiebbewe pug with other guilds we know ^^
15:15.26Wiebbewho are atleast somewhere in khara
15:16.08WiebbeButtt.. according to the Wowace/wiki
15:16.13Wiebbeyou shouldnt use string1 .. string 2
15:16.16Wiebbebut the table thingy
15:16.43Wiebbenow, i made two types of code like here: http://ace.pastey.net/10040
15:16.54Wiebbeshould the string .. string always be avoided?
15:17.02JJSheetsWiebbe, for short strings .. is fine.  for large numbers of string concatenations, use table.insert followed up with a table.concat.
15:17.02chutwigi hate having 4 people for a heroic and having to pick up somebody else for the last
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15:17.24WiebbeJJSheets, whats a large number? more then 5? 10? 20? :P
15:17.25JJSheetsalso use '/n/n' instead of '/n':rep(2)
15:17.26kenlyricI sometimes wish dps were hard to find.
15:17.35kenlyricit always seems it's a tank we need to pug.
15:17.39JJSheetsWiebbe, generally anything in a loop structure
15:17.50Wiebbeso the top one is better here?
15:18.12JJSheetsyes, but make sure you follow it up with a table.concat()
15:18.42Wiebbeyep, added that afterwards :)
15:18.50Wiebbetext = table.concat(events)
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15:19.03Wiebbebut does this help with memory usage?
15:19.07JJSheets:rep(n) really should be used on string variables imo.
15:19.22Wiebbehehe, i just saw vhaarr using it ^^
15:19.25Wiebbewanted to try it as well
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15:19.39vhaarruse what?
15:20.00JJSheetsWiebbe, shouldn't affect memory much either way.  the table.concat can be faster however
15:20.02Wiebbethe :rep one :>
15:20.21vhaarrmeh
15:20.22JJSheetsvhaarr, imho '\n\n' is better than ('\n'):rep(2)
15:20.26vhaarrobviously
15:20.27Wiebbewell, that function is not used often at all.. But i guess its better to start with good coding practice :)
15:20.34Wiebbebut if it was 10
15:20.36Wiebbeinstead of 2?
15:20.41vhaarrit would still be faster
15:20.49vhaarrto just do "\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n"
15:21.03JJSheetswiebbe, use the :rep(2) only on variables, not on string constants.
15:21.08moonsorrowthe smooth bar changing is really nice now :)
15:21.11vhaarrindeed
15:22.25JoshBorkeyea, it's pretty nifty
15:22.30Wiebbethanks JJSheets
15:22.34moonsorrowright now, only depletion is getting an animation, why not adding one, too, when the bar fills up
15:22.37JJSheetsany time
15:23.09JoshBorkeanyway, test time, bye
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15:25.44CIA-1103helium * r31674 10FuBar/FuBar-Locale-zhTW.lua:
15:25.45CIA-11FuBar:
15:25.45CIA-11- Updated zhTW locale
15:27.13xyuwhoa
15:27.19xyui started a bg's for the first time w/ pitbull
15:27.24xyuand suddenly i have unitframes all over the place!
15:27.24xyuhah
15:27.30Ominous:D
15:27.33xyui can't figure out what added them
15:27.37Ominousits raid
15:27.38xyumy party/raid are both hidden
15:27.44JJSheetslol gotta know everybody elses targettargettarget right?
15:27.51xyubut i have 3 strange bars there.
15:27.57xyuohhh
15:27.59xyuthat's what it is
15:27.59chutwigtargettargettargettargettargettargettargettarget
15:28.00xyuis it?
15:28.02xyuno it's not changing
15:28.03xyuo_O
15:28.24Ominousparty pet?
15:28.26xyuat first i thought it was "in range unitframes" which i thought was kind of sexy
15:28.31JJSheetsyou've been owned by the pitbull.    http://xyu.justgotowned.com
15:28.33xyunope they're players
15:28.37xyuhah
15:28.53xyu3 of them and myself
15:28.54[Ammo]twiddle@slow commits
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15:29.29Ominouslol
15:29.32shieldbhmm.. does aguf provide any good way to control the size of the aura displays other then scaling the particular frame?
15:30.02Industrialhey um can the step for height be 5 again for PitBull :X
15:30.17Industrial(liking the 400 max width hehe)
15:31.01[Ammo]grrr
15:31.08nevcairielshieldb: you can change the number of auras per row, and the aura size will adjust itself
15:31.12[Ammo]dev.wowace.com is slow or my internet is breaking down
15:31.27shieldbyeah I know I can do that, but they're still tiny
15:32.07shieldbI'm at work and don't have a screenshot atm, but the frame is at 150% or so, with 8 auras per row, but the auras are ~12x12 or something crazy
15:32.11Ominous[Ammo] god how long is it taking :p
15:32.22Industrialoh the step is 5
15:32.28Silviu-[Ammo] does Pitbull have options to set up buffs/debuffs status/pvp icons, party grouping yet ? ;)
15:32.33Industrialits dewdrop thats missing the value again :(
15:32.38Industrial*installs niagara*
15:32.41nevcairielshieldb: i'm at 140% for target frame, and 10 auras . .and i dont find them too small
15:32.50OminousIndustrial: niagara dosent pick it up
15:33.06shieldbI'm thinking it's just the frame layout I'm using
15:33.21OminousIndustrial: it only picks up ace console stuff which uses aceDatatable
15:33.23nevcairielwhich is that?
15:33.40IndustrialOminous: ah :(
15:34.00shieldbNyrine (from aUF_Layouts) with aura position set to 'inside'
15:34.21Industrialin that case, should waterfall-1.0 be added to PitBull so we CAN feed it the options? :D?
15:36.40[Ammo]hrmf
15:36.44[Ammo]I can't seem to commit
15:36.46[Ammo]gaaaa
15:36.47[Ammo]ohwell
15:37.30JJSheets[Ammo], fear of commitment?  You can get help for that y'know....
15:38.20CIA-1103nevcairiel * r31675 10Bartender3/Core.lua: Bartender3: test .. 1..2..3.. is this thing on?
15:38.26JJSheetslol
15:38.28nevcairiel[Ammo]: problem on your end
15:38.29nevcairiel:)
15:38.54[Ammo]yeah
15:39.00[Ammo]well it should work now :p
15:39.06CIA-1103ammo * r31676 10PitBull/ (CastBar/CastBar.lua Layouts/ABF.lua): PitBull: show the castbar shadow in ABF layout similar to aguf
15:39.10nevcairiel\o/
15:39.17moonsorrowIs this a normal behaviour in pitbull that there are no party frames in a raid (with raid frames disabled)
15:39.25nevcairielthere should be a toggle
15:39.26nevcairielfor that
15:39.30[Ammo]copied the files to my linux box
15:39.33[Ammo]and committed from there
15:39.40xyuHmm know what would be cool.  Make grid a single long bar at the top of my screen and those directionlines could go to each grid :D
15:40.20xyuinteract*lines  
15:40.55art3misor just big red waypoint arrows that point at those that need healing ;P
15:41.04art3misthen it would be like playing simon ;P
15:41.22xyui pwn at simon
15:41.25[Ammo]JJSheets: just make your own layout :p
15:41.31JJSheetsbah
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15:41.36[Ammo]or code it in the current one
15:41.42kenlyricug... my wife just called. She just woke up. I want to be on spring break!
15:41.42JJSheetsdouble bah
15:41.47moonsorrow[Ammo]: the castbar shadow isn't under the icon, it starts at the same position as the normal castbar
15:41.51[Ammo]I know
15:41.51art3misnev whatcha change in bt3? something that i should download like right now!
15:41.53art3mis?
15:41.55[Ammo]and it'll never be under the shadow
15:42.00[Ammo]or rather
15:42.02[Ammo]it might
15:42.03[Ammo]but meh
15:42.05nevcairielart3mis: i changed something in one comment :P
15:42.09art3mishaha nice
15:42.12moonsorrow[Ammo]: it looks weird :P
15:42.15[Ammo]I know
15:42.17[Ammo]I wasn't done with it
15:42.23art3misso its a totally get now update!@
15:42.25[Ammo]it'll be under the icon
15:42.28[Ammo]but I have to fix it still
15:42.40[Ammo]first need option to hide the icon in ABF
15:42.44art3missomeone should make a "comment" viewer ingame for addons
15:42.49moonsorrowok :)
15:42.51art3misthat would be amusing
15:43.06[Ammo]but for now it's fine
15:43.11art3misspecially anything that ammo or rabbit have touched
15:43.18JJSheetslol
15:43.29vhaarr:?
15:43.36renchapi have a weird little bug with pitbull
15:43.46nevcairielcommit msg viewer for SRA .. :p but havent seen any commits on that for a while tho
15:43.52art3mishahah yeah
15:43.54renchapplayer frame and target have the same scale/size
15:43.58renchapbut target is bigger
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15:44.19art3mis-- Fuck you blizzard -vhaar (followed by 19 lines of commented out code)
15:44.25nevcairiellol
15:44.28JJSheetsewwww my pet uf looks Chunky now...
15:44.42xyuwhat's that mouse dump command?
15:44.48xyuto see what frame my mouse is over
15:44.49IndustrialIs it possible to make groups of unitframes?
15:44.58art3mis<PROTECTED>
15:45.00CIA-1103ammo * r31677 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull: extend the castbarshadow under the icon for ABF
15:45.07[Ammo]moonsorrow: happy?
15:45.14xyuhawt
15:45.15art3mis<PROTECTED>
15:45.24JJSheets[Ammo], disabling castbar doesn't actually do anything.
15:45.33[Ammo]I didn't code that
15:45.39[Ammo]the person that coded that foobar'd
15:45.41JJSheetswait...
15:45.46[Ammo]it works after a reload
15:45.52[Ammo]so some updatelayout stuff is missing from the module
15:45.55JJSheets[Ammo], disabling that then resizing the bastard works.
15:45.56JJSheetslol
15:46.23[Ammo]someone with a brain can fix that, I'm going to drown myself in beer
15:46.42nevcairielno one will ever fix it, then
15:46.52art3misdont forget to save a bottle to put a mouse in
15:47.01[Ammo]the person who added the disabling of the bar can fix it properly
15:47.06art3misthen when it's grown you take it back and they give you a free 24 ;P
15:47.31moonsorrow[Ammo]: I am :)
15:48.09mjcheh. getting 350KB/s upload on a dual T1.
15:48.13mjchow is that even possible
15:48.16mjc(sustained)
15:48.24art3misyour speed reader is broken ;P
15:48.34mjcnah, it's from /proc
15:48.38art3mislies!
15:48.56art3mishehe its leaving the machine at 350kB hitting the switch and dropping to 12kB ;P
15:49.08art3miswhich means its getting to its destination at 4kB
15:49.12mjcfrom router /proc
15:49.19art3mislies!
15:49.22art3mis;)
15:50.07xyuraid targets are still showing up until i hit "hidden" twice. then they'll show up again in a few seconds
15:50.10art3misactually on a dual t1 yer 25kB short of max
15:50.11xyuuntil i hit hidden again twice.
15:50.28art3misassuming 1.5mBit per t1 up/down
15:51.11xyuomg i have like 15 unit frames randomly appearing and dissappearing all over my screen
15:51.14xyuits really quite colorful
15:51.17xyuand pretty
15:51.22art3misyay range fade!
15:52.26[Ammo]xyu: the raid targets should be there always
15:52.32[Ammo]doesn't look like there's an option to disable them
15:52.34[Ammo]in pitbull that is
15:52.51[Ammo]at least the raidtarget module doesn't have options :p
15:53.42kenlyricxyu: what range to do they disappear?
15:53.49xyuno idea
15:53.50xyujust randomly
15:53.52xyutoo much is going on
15:54.01xyuthey're just constantly fading in and out over and over
15:54.10kenlyricheh.
15:54.21JJSheetsmy god, the raid frames are full of stars...
15:54.47kenlyricAm i stretching to far to think that's a B5 reference? ;)
15:54.55JJSheetswrong direction.
15:54.56CIA-1103rabbit * r31678 10ShutUp/ShutUp.lua: ShutUp: Update our friend/guild info on FRIENDLIST_UPDATE and GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE.
15:55.11JJSheetsthink kubrick
15:57.38kenlyrichttp://www.palantir.net/2001/tma1/wav/stars.wav
15:57.56JJSheetsexcellent
15:58.18kenlyricit's the second result when you look up "full of stars" on google.
15:58.23JJSheetslmao
15:58.29kenlyricthe first is B5.
15:58.43JJSheetsbah.  2001 ftw
15:59.16JJSheetsdamned babylonians...
15:59.57kenlyricI have conflicted feelings about 2001. I want to love it, but kubrick makes it so difficult.
16:00.14JJSheetslol
16:00.23JJSheetshow bout clockwork orange?
16:00.46kenlyricI can just see him in the editing room "ok, I'm not asleep yet, 15 more minutes of docking procedure!"
16:00.53kenlyricclockwork orange <3
16:01.10chuckgFMJ?
16:01.20JJSheetskenlyric, lmao, I gotta have mor "What are you doing, Dave?"
16:01.29kenlyricI really like most of kubrick's work... i just can't get into 2001 in a serious way.
16:01.48chuckgI turned 2001 off after 5 minutes.
16:02.07kenlyricI get the idea behind it, about emphasizing the emptiness of space. It just doesn't grab me.
16:02.08chuckgHaven't watched it since.
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16:02.16JJSheetsoh come on... nothing funnier than what seventies people thought we'd act and look like.
16:02.44chuckgNot to a 14 year old, or whenever I rented it.
16:02.49JJSheets2001 was a comedy people.  :p
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16:03.10IndustrialSteady hand :D? http://tinyurl.com/2t6d4u
16:03.14kenlyricI imagine that when the movie first came out it was sorta breathtaking. It loses some of the impact now that space sci-fi is more widespread.
16:03.30Amadeoif I type /pitbull I get - Dewdrop-2.0-31348 (DewdropLib):233: Dewdrop20Level1:SetPoint(): Couldn't find region named 'PitBull'
16:03.44JJSheetsI wonder if they'll ever do a 2063 and 3001...
16:03.50kenlyricit does have its awesome moments, but the many, many periods of complete silence make it hard to get to them :)
16:03.54cncfanaticsJJSheets, yo :)
16:04.07JJSheetscncfanatics, what's up?
16:04.38cncfanaticspala lvl'ing lol
16:04.41cncfanaticsprogress on IB ?
16:04.57cncfanaticswaiting for u to start :p kinda
16:05.26kenlyrichere's the quote I was thinking of "and the sky was full of stars, and every star was an exploding ship"
16:06.04JJSheetscorrected my interface to match our previous discussion.  I'll clean up the pastey and link you to it, after I knock down a few of these quests. :)
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16:07.04trhg'afternoon
16:07.24cncfanaticstake ur time JJ
16:07.25cncfanaticskinda lvl'ing pala and cant rly be arsed to code yet
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16:08.33JJSheets:)
16:09.59Industrialbbl kickboxing /o^
16:10.08Industrialhm, thats more like swimming lol :P
16:10.34Industrial( the "/o^" emotion)
16:11.09chuckghttp://www.google.com/tisp/
16:12.09CIA-1103ominous * r31679 10Niagara/Niagara.lua: Niagara: Manual add for PitBull
16:12.36OminousIndustrial: there you go
16:12.50Wiebbewhat does this do?
16:12.50Wiebbelocal _G = getfenv(0)
16:13.08sedatedChipmunkso you can use G instead of getglobal()
16:13.14sedatedChipmunker, _G
16:13.18Fisker-FREEDOM! QQ
16:13.36JJSheetsisn't that unnecessary now?  or is it uneccessary in 2.1.0?
16:13.40IndustrialOminous: <3
16:13.44sedatedChipmunk_G.foo, rather than getglobal(foo)
16:14.04Wiebbeoh right, you get the lowest stack of the frames
16:14.08Wiebbeor something like that ^^
16:14.11Wiebbebecause it 0
16:14.34Industrialthe global environment is a table and you reference it locally so the lookup is faster
16:14.44CIA-1103shieldb * r31680 10Incubator/ (Locale-deDE.lua ReadMe.txt):
16:14.44CIA-11Incubator: deDE update for CoT:Old Hillsbrad Heroic
16:14.44CIA-11- deDE update for Gruul's lair
16:14.44CIA-11- Added readme to hopefully address some of the more common questions
16:14.49Wiebbehow do you guys get to that stuff
16:14.51Wiebbeseriously :P
16:14.59Wiebbelua is strange :>
16:14.59Industriallua \o/
16:15.29JJSheetslua is awesome.  :)
16:15.32chuckgSo I could change all my getglobal() to _G[ ] ?
16:15.40Industrialyea
16:15.45chuckgAnd that's 'faster'?
16:15.46sedatedChipmunk_G[""]
16:15.49Wiebbeadd it to the wiki ! :P
16:15.53[Ammo]with the local _G = getfenv(0)
16:15.55[Ammo]ofcourse
16:15.59sedatedChipmunkhm
16:16.06sedatedChipmunkwho took PIL out of the /topic
16:16.09vhaarrIt's faster because you avoid a function call and turn it into a direct table lookup instead.
16:16.09chuckgWhat kind of speed increase are we talking here? .00000000001 efficiency? :)
16:16.13vhaarrYes.
16:16.31Mikmaoh NOW i got it
16:16.36MikmaReverse healthbar direction
16:16.39Mikmathat's bugged!
16:16.46sedatedChipmunkhttp://www.lua.org/pil <---must read
16:16.48Mikmathat's what makes my healthbar dark
16:17.02Industriallol
16:17.32AmadeoMikma: I don't think it's bugged, it's just dark because it's going to fill up with bright, vibrant colors!
16:17.50chuckg_G[frameReference]:Show(); etc and stuff like that remains the same, right?
16:17.52JJSheetsAmadeo, nope it's bugged I'm seeing it too
16:18.00MikmaAmadeo: well that's not the reverse it was before, and frankly it sucks now :P
16:18.27AmadeoMikma: Haha, I told you it was bugged!
16:18.42MikmaAmadeo: no you didn't, i told you!
16:18.48JJSheetslol
16:18.58Mikmaliek u noob me pro
16:19.41sedatedChipmunkElkano:  ElkBuffBars-2.0 beta\ElkBuffBars.lua:362: attempt to index field 'filter' (a nil value)
16:19.48AmadeoMikma: My keyboard layout switched to dvorak on the fly, so I don't know what it looked like I typed, but I said it was bugged!
16:20.30MikmaAmadeo: oh ok, well you typed <Amadeo> Mikma: I don't think it's bugged  ^_O
16:20.47Mikmaand i typed <Mikma> liek u noob me pro
16:21.15Mikmaok, who fucked up the default layout :P
16:21.21Mikmait's ugly ass [Ammo] now
16:21.44JJSheetslmao
16:21.52Fisker-i'm gonna kill you all
16:22.09JJSheetsI love you too, Fisker-
16:22.15Fisker-you do?
16:22.58AmadeoJJSheets: Now you have to love a man with no arms
16:23.27JJSheetsbetter that than a fat chick.
16:23.29chuckgHoly shit, there were 88 getglobal's in my addon.
16:23.32chuckgD=
16:24.38AmadeoYeah, but what does D equal?
16:24.55sedatedChipmunkapparently not getfenv(0)
16:25.48sedatedChipmunkElkano: n/m that was a SV thing
16:26.44AmadeoHow much should I try to sell The Green Tower for? It's purple!
16:28.27Mikmaplease fix the reverse bars :(
16:28.48[Ammo]hey mikma, you know lua, fix it yourself :p
16:28.50CIA-1103rabbit * r31681 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Attumen.lua Terestian.lua): BigWigs: Karazhan: frFR update by Arghan.
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16:29.14kenlyricwasn't there a change in 1.12 or 2.0 that allowed you to put raw meat on the action bars?
16:29.31Mikma[Ammo]: hey i don't, that's why i don't touch it so i don't break it even more
16:29.43[Ammo]you do, I know you do
16:29.43JJSheetskenlyric, what do you have against raw meat?
16:29.45[Ammo]you just don't want to
16:29.58[Ammo]but I think nymbia probably broke it
16:30.03Mikma[Ammo]: i haven't even had a look at lua in 3 months :/
16:30.10Mikmayeah nymbia did broke it, he sucks
16:30.16Mikma~emulate mikma
16:30.21purlbinder: Make it Ace2
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16:31.08CIA-1103elkano * r31682 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua): ElkBuffBars - bugfixes
16:31.10kenlyricJJSheets: I have nothing against it. I love it.
16:31.14JJSheetslol
16:31.16Mikmahttp://picturesofwalls.com/images/warning_text.gif
16:31.59nevcairielvhaarr: one thing i noticed yesterday on Hydross
16:32.26nevcairielvhaarr: after the first switch from water to poison, the bar didnt reset to 10% 25% etc.. always stays on 250%
16:32.43CIA-1103elkano * r31683 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua): ElkBuffBars - set svn keaywords
16:32.49JJSheetslol Mikma
16:34.18Mikmanymbia * r31662 PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua):
16:34.19Fisker-you suck Elkano
16:34.28Mikma- Parent the health and mana backgrounds to the frame instead of the statusbar so we can squeeze a frame in between 'em if need be.
16:34.31Mikmahe did it
16:34.46moonsorrownevcairiel: I wrote that module, but it worked the last time we killed him
16:35.15nevcairielhm
16:35.23nevcairielall bars where 250% after first switch for me
16:35.27nevcairiel*were
16:35.38Mikmagah
16:35.40moonsorrowI reset it after a specific yell, maybe they changed it
16:36.14nevcairieli will run transcripter and take a look
16:36.20moonsorrowk
16:36.55Tornhoofevening
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16:38.35[Ammo]nevcairiel: run bigwigs_debugger as well
16:38.43[Ammo]so you can see if any sync's etc and events get triggered
16:38.44[Ammo]helps :p
16:39.15moonsorrowthe hydross module doesn't sync anything
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16:40.06nevcairielheh
16:42.01yacoobhttp://www.ubuntuvideo.com/world_of_warcraft_and_beryl_on_ubuntu_7_04_feisty_fawn
16:42.01yacoob...I wonder what kind of hardare this guy has
16:42.12xyuin pitbull how do i ungroup party frames
16:42.14xyui saw it once
16:42.17xyuand now i can't find it !
16:42.44renchapgrouping -> enable freeform movement
16:42.55Amadeoyacoob: I dunno, but WoW in Ubuntu for me runs at about 25 fps slower than Windows, so I imagine his hardware can take huge performance hits :P
16:43.03CIA-1103mikma * r31684 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua): PitBull: Reverting Health.lua and Mana.lua because noobia borked the reversed look. Eventho his idea might have been nice ;)
16:43.06xyusweuet
16:43.22yacoobAmadeo, mine is 7-10fps slower, but still, unplayable
16:43.26xyuwhoa
16:43.28xyuthat's all screwed up
16:43.43Tornhooflast time i tested wow on my gentoo box ran around as fast
16:43.50Tornhoof+/- 2fps
16:44.04yacoobTornhoof, just out of curiosity, which card, which driver?
16:44.17Amadeoyacoob: Look how smooth it runs, it has to be good hardware
16:44.31AmadeoTornhoof: I hear a lot of people say that, but I've never seen evidence of it
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16:45.06Amadeobecause OpenGL in WoW is just slower than DirectX is, I don't really blame Linux for it
16:45.18Tornhoof64bit gentoo, 7900gtx, back then the last nvidia 64bit driver
16:45.51yacoobnvidia, there you have it.
16:45.57yacoobI'm stuck with #$@%!@ fglrx.
16:46.03AmadeoI have Nvidia also, 6600GT
16:46.06Tornhoofi can't tell about drops in speed in populated areas
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16:46.25Tornhoofbut usual no action fps was on par with windows
16:46.28ravagernltry supression room XD
16:46.40AmadeoYou can tell his computer is fast though, look at how fast it tabs...my machine takes forever :P
16:46.48AmadeoTornhoof: If I could do that, I wouldn't even need Windows :(
16:46.56Tornhoofhe
16:46.58hyperChipmunkback when i use windows, i got about 10fps better on linux
16:47.03Tornhooflast time i tested that beryl stuff
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16:47.17Tornhoofit was still fugly
16:47.29Tornhoofrestarting every 5mins
16:47.35yacoobTornhoof, it works, mostly
16:47.40yacoobbut also, it's mostly icing
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16:47.57yacoobthere are some trials that can be extended into valuable accessibility tools
16:48.29AmadeohyperChipmunk: I'm not sure I believe that, unless your Windows system was running a ton of things in memory or you had slower drivers :P
16:48.40kergoththere are some aspects of beryl that are really nice productivity enhancements
16:48.43kergoththe rest is just fluff
16:48.43xyudoes interactlines aggro draw lines for ANYthing the mob hits?
16:48.50xyubecause i was just fighting 1 mob and saw 24626 lines
16:48.53yacoobkergoth, expose, and? :)
16:48.56AmadeoEither that or Linux drivers vary gigantically
16:49.00kergoththe expose like thingamabob is the main one obviously :)
16:49.08Tornhoofwell that flattened cube stuff is nice
16:49.21kergoththe ease of binding keys to moving windows to positions around the screen is nice, but thats a general window manager usability thing
16:49.23Tornhoofbut wobbly menus?
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16:49.46yacoobzoom is nice
16:49.50kergothalso, the thing that lets you fade out all the windows to see and interact with your desktop instead of encountering a delay as you minimize everything (like in windows), is quite nice
16:49.51Tornhoofi can't stand all that semi transparent stuff though
16:49.54yacooband visual feedback on new windows
16:50.23yacoobzoom out of cursor + wobbly is good, but wobbly itself is so very annoying...
16:50.46AmadeoFor weeks I tried to find wine or cedega tweaks that would speed up WoW in Linux for me, but I could never get it better than losing 20 fps at minimum compared to Windows...so I dont' know if it's just my hardware or what, but it just doesn't work for me :(
16:51.06chutwigkergoth: most of beryl is just linuxifying OS X window manager conventions
16:51.15chutwigand then throwing in a shitload of wobbly window effects on top of it
16:51.22yacoobchutwig, not really
16:51.23kergothi'm not surprised
16:51.33chutwigyacoob: yes really
16:51.33kergothi wouldnt know, i've never used osx
16:51.35yacoobwhat 'window manager conventions' of OSX you see there?
16:51.39trhchutwig: don't forget the constant crashes when wobbly stuff shit is enabled
16:51.39chutwigexpose?
16:51.48yacoobthere's more to beryl than just expose, go on.
16:52.03kergothmy beryl hasnt crashed once in the past week with wobbly in use
16:52.05chutwigwhy don't you tell me what makes beryl a unique and special flower
16:52.10kergoth"constant crashes" my ass
16:52.10chutwigtrh: i actually didn't have too much trouble with beryl's stability
16:52.15chutwigwell
16:52.18yacoobchutwig, it was *your* opinion, now try to defend it :P
16:52.27chutwigyacoob: except i don't really feel compelled to do so
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16:52.36yacoob<chutwig> kergoth: most of beryl is just linuxifying OS X window manager conventions
16:52.37trhchutwig: i had... esp. when alot of effects where enabled.. it even crashed my computer completly (freezed)
16:52.52yacoobwell, your choice, I find your PoV your own, and not true :D
16:53.04chutwigberyl's not exactly bringing anything new to the table, is my point
16:53.15yacoobthat's more like it.
16:53.18kergoththats okay chutwig, i'm used to people spouting things without any facts to back them up
16:53.19kergothnothing new there
16:53.25yacoob3ddesktop comes to mind :)
16:53.33chutwigunless you think windows sticking to each other is the birth of a new age in computing
16:53.37trhi think "looking glass" from sun is awesome
16:53.47trhhttp://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/demo.xml
16:54.08Tornhoofit's java
16:54.16Tornhoofif i'm not completely wrong
16:54.20Tornhoofthats a no go
16:54.40chutwigother than that, most of the window collating/sliding stuff is derived from expose and the rest of it is all straight-up virtual desktops, which have been done a million times over
16:54.47trhTornhoof: only from the "how a desktop should be, if its 3d" point of view, not speed
16:54.59chutwigcombined with the world's most spastic window decorator
16:55.08yacoobchutwig, there hasn't been such fluent desktop zoom
16:55.11ravagernlanyone know of an addon to move the warsong gulch board and arathi basin board?
16:55.15yacoobnor decolorifier on focus
16:55.18chutwig"desktop zoom"?
16:55.26yacoobyup, arbitrary zoom on desktop
16:55.36chutwigyou mean like what OS X accessibility has had for 3 or 4 years now
16:55.39yacoobif someone has problems with his/her sight
16:56.05Funkeh`hi all
16:56.18yacooblast time I checked, it wasn't smooth
16:56.26chutwiglast time i checked it was
16:56.36yacoobgood, they make progress :D
16:56.43chutwigeither way, one again, just copying OS X
16:56.48chutwigonce, too
16:57.07yacoobyes, thank god for Apple, if it wasn't for them, we'd still be mashing our computers with stones and sticks...
16:57.23chutwigway to take the slippery slope route
16:57.23hyperChipmunkthat's a bad thing? apple has always been considered the standard for aesthetics and usability
16:57.27chutwigtry again, yacoob
16:58.20yacoobhyperChipmunk, what's funny, they have a nice set of HIG, that... they do not care about anymore. Much :)
16:58.54pastamancerhaha, I just found out about the desktop zoom in OS X today when I was setting up my new mouse
16:59.11chutwigpastamancer: i recommend command-control-option-8
16:59.12yacoobbut yeah, I give them that from the commercial OSes their interface is one of the finests
16:59.13chutwigi think that's the key combo
16:59.19Tornhoofi like mashing my computer with stones and sticks
16:59.29Tornhoofand i can't stand that apple ui
16:59.29kergothsheesh, loaded up pitbull and 2 seconds later hit 2 behavioral bug
16:59.30kergoths
16:59.32kergoththat was fast
16:59.36pastamancerchutwig: oh, that's a fun one
17:00.03chutwigpastamancer: in college i used to invert the screen and go black and white late at night to annoy my roommate less if he was trying to sleep
17:00.07chutwigit was like computer stealth mode
17:00.46kergothhmmm
17:01.18sbuhm
17:01.34chutwigmoo
17:01.59sbubarfader: is it possible to deaktivate fading on target change?
17:02.24sbuswitch target mana class -> non mana class (e.g. warrior) -> fade
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17:03.26Ominousright now my connection should be stable
17:06.26xyuis anyone's interactlines threshold not working?
17:06.47xyui'm getting priest's vamp touch and it's spamming the hell out of me :D
17:08.06Mikma[Ammo]: i'm afraid to say this :P
17:09.02Mikma[Ammo]: seems like target-frame is "missplaced" when you look at the background. it's 1px too up compared to player-frame
17:10.01KirkburnI have to wonder, if Fisker- just a bot which spurts random angry comments every hour?
17:10.18Mikmaand btw, i think that it will propably be an easy thing on adding a simple "grouping" into PitBull
17:11.11AmadeoFull size pet frames are a pain
17:11.14Mikmalike "dock left of targetframe to right of playerframe with 20px space between them"
17:11.15AmadeoI don't know how you'd even group them
17:11.44Mikma"dock bottom of targetoftarget to top of target with 3px space between them"
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17:13.29ravagernlwould be nice to do it like that yeah
17:13.49vhaarrMikma: The problem is that you must use the secure headers for that now.
17:14.00ravagernljust a dewdrop where you can set what frame to attack to, what point (bottomleft,topright, etc) and the offset in pixels
17:14.22Fisker-i'm a busy man Kirkburn
17:15.19KirkburnFisker-, tonight I'm gonna come to your house and **** your ***** in the ******** with a banana plus ******** *** ******** slipper ******** ****** with a frenchman.
17:16.41Fisker-family guy right?
17:16.44Fisker-or was it american dad?
17:18.10Mikmavhaarr: funny, didn't even think of that to be honest
17:19.02KirkburnFisker-, Family Guy, but I wasn't referencing it :)
17:19.09KirkburnIncidentally, I am currently watching ... Family Guy
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17:24.49Mikma[Ammo]: http://wow.reaktio.net/PitBull.jpg
17:26.11Kirkburnsexeh
17:26.38Mikma[Ammo]: look at the targetframe and compare it to playerframe
17:26.57AmadeoMikma: Show me with pet and party open :P
17:26.58KirkburnLooks like you could fit like three whole chat lines on there!
17:27.26MikmaAmadeo: need to be grouped for that and that's not possible now :P
17:27.38KirkburnOoh, yeah I see it being 1 px higher
17:27.39chuckg3 chat lines is overkill.
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17:28.03Fisker-FUCK THIS HSIT
17:28.09MikmaKirkburn: yeah health,mana, and castbar anre 1px higher than they should be
17:28.13JJSheetsI never fuck HSIT.
17:28.22Fisker-THEN DO IT
17:28.24Mikmathe Classicons are at correct places on both frames
17:28.38Fisker-fucking end-if bullshit
17:28.53Mikma<2010> <Kirkburn> I have to wonder, if Fisker- just a bot which spurts random angry comments every hour?
17:29.00JJSheetsend-if bullshit?
17:29.05Fisker-yeah
17:29.09Fisker-I'm WORKING :o
17:29.13JJSheetslol
17:29.17MikmaKirkburn: my hat goes off for you :D
17:29.20Fisker-and i was editing templates to include paladins on our dkp page
17:29.32Fisker-then i forgot there was 2 <!-- END IF -->
17:29.32KirkburnYou can keep your hat on!
17:29.39Fisker-And it kept making rawr rawr errors
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17:29.42Kirkburnna naa na-na na naaa
17:30.07Fisker-also this makes no sense
17:30.23Fisker-he changed a major part of some of the code
17:30.27Fisker-and i haven't changed that myself
17:30.31Fisker-still it works :o
17:32.02Mikmachuckg: 3 chat lines, was that for me btw?
17:32.19Kirkburn<Kirkburn> Looks like you could fit like three whole chat lines on there!
17:32.29Fisker-big mean motherfucker btw
17:32.36Fisker-Lets just slap a buttload of code in
17:32.42Fisker-oh and put }}}} in the end
17:32.45Fisker-gg
17:32.54KirkburnMikma, how is it so small?
17:32.58MikmaKirkburn: it's haste's addon :)
17:32.59Fisker-Who cares about indenting anyways
17:33.10Kirkburn<PROTECTED>
17:33.20Fisker-gtfo
17:33.22Fisker-:P
17:33.25Mikmadiaf
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17:34.21KirkburnWhy yes, I shall go Drive In A Ford
17:34.39CIA-1103roartindon * r31685 10RapidCast/RapidCast.toc: RapidCast: Updated toc to make it optionally dependent on oCB + CBRipoff
17:35.35MikmaKirkburn: http://wow.reaktio.net/lo1.jpg and http://wow.reaktio.net/lo2.jpg
17:36.06JJSheetstime for lunch.  adios muchachos.
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17:37.58KirkburnMikma, cool
17:40.10Gnarfoz<Ominous> right now my connection should be stable <-- Ominous_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))   <<<--- lol
17:40.28Ominousthat is a previous allias
17:40.32Ominousform when it wasent
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17:44.18CIA-1103whitetooth * r31686 10StatLogicLib/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
17:44.18CIA-11StatLogicLib:
17:44.18CIA-11- zhTW localization by CuteMiyu
17:44.18CIA-11- Fixed socket bonus support
17:44.18CIA-11- Improved debug text
17:44.18CIA-11- Improved UTF8 handling
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17:49.53CIA-1103toadkiller * r31687 10cyCircled/plugins/AutoBar.lua:
17:49.53CIA-11cyCircled:
17:49.53CIA-11-Fix cyCircled AutoBar code to avoid skinning 288 buttons on every update
17:50.41packetlssany way to disable the exp bar in pitbull?
17:52.08KemayoMikma: Impressively minimal. :)
17:52.15kergothpitbull has an exp bar?
17:52.18renchapiam translating my website to english, but i need a domain name
17:52.31renchapthe french one is guildewow.fr, a website to easily create a guild website
17:52.40renchapi need your domain name ideas :)
17:52.43Kemayorenchap: wowguild.com?
17:52.55KemayoProbably taken, actually.
17:52.55renchapnop :(
17:53.00MikmaKemayo: i blame haste for the look :D
17:53.06renchapall my ideas are taken
17:53.09Wiebberenchap, wow-guilds?
17:53.14CIA-1103whitetooth * r31688 10TankPoints/libs/:
17:53.14CIA-11TankPoints:
17:53.15CIA-11- libs folder for UTF8
17:53.35CIA-1103toadkiller * r31689 10AutoBar/ (Core.lua Style.lua):
17:53.35CIA-11AutoBar:
17:53.35CIA-11-- Fix cyCircled AutoBar code to avoid skinning 288 buttons on every update
17:54.16Fisker-nice
17:54.26renchapWiebbe: domain unavaible
17:54.27CIA-1103whitetooth * r31690 10TankPoints/libs/utf8.lua:
17:54.27CIA-11TankPoints:
17:54.27CIA-11- utf8.lua
17:54.29packetlsskergoth: nvm me, it was the castbar :)
17:54.38Wiebbewow-guilds.com doesnt seem to be taken yet
17:55.02Phatriknow if just Microsoft would push updates for their Vista so the SidePanel wouldn't cause ingame FPS to be cut in half while it is active (doesn't have to be even visible, just running) ;/
17:55.02CIA-1103whitetooth * r31691 10TankPoints/libs/utf8data.lua:
17:55.02CIA-11TankPoints:
17:55.02CIA-11- utf8data.lua
17:55.07Mikmawow-lewt.org
17:55.22Wiebbei have wow-raids.net
17:55.40Wiebbean website to easily create guild sites with RP stuff ^6
17:56.08Wiebbebut since GSDKP its all gone down :(
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17:56.18vhaarrFinally made some documentation on how to create BigWigs modules, for anyone interested; http://wowace.com/wiki/BigWigs/ModuleAPI - it's not fully complete yet, but at least it's something.
17:57.09renchapi only provide a punbb forum, with a news portal atm, and itemlinks
17:57.12CIA-1103rabbit * r31692 10BigWigs/Docs/Developers.txt: BigWigs: Added a developers.txt, pointing to http://wowace.com/wiki/BigWigs/ModuleAPI.
17:57.32Wiebbeits cool vhaarr
17:57.47Mikma~steveballmer vhaarr
17:57.58purlACTION bounces on mikma screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!"
17:58.01vhaarr:P
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17:58.08Mikmaon mikma?
17:58.16vhaarr~literal steveballmer
17:58.18purl"steveballmer" is "<action> ( throws a chair at $nick | bounces on $nick screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!"| dances on $nick while screaming, "I. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY!!"| throws an AL at $nick screaming, COMPETITIONCOMPETITIONCOMPETITON!! | roars "I'll f*cking KILL $nick!" | dances like a monkey ontop of $nick)"
17:58.19Antiarc|WorkI have worldofworkcraft.com
17:58.24Antiarc|WorkI just have to do something fun with it.
17:58.36Mikmariiiight. stupid steve
17:59.05CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31693 10ACP/localization-deDE.lua: ACP: fix type in deDE
17:59.07CIA-1103whitetooth * r31694 10TankPoints/libs/:
17:59.08CIA-11TankPoints:
17:59.08CIA-11- Undo the libs folder
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18:00.46renchapi think i will choose wowguild.info
18:01.02Mikma[Ammo]: did you see btw, i did manage to fix the healthbar-bug after all
18:01.12renchap0.9 euro a year
18:01.16renchap<3 my provider
18:01.39knarf-who is doing the pitbull castingbar?
18:01.58knarf-whne you hide it the layout pitbull frame does not shrink :/
18:02.44Fisker-argh
18:02.48Fisker-what the fuck happened to pitbull?
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18:02.58Fisker-all my frames are humongous with these grey frames in it too
18:03.04Fisker-hueg liek xbox
18:03.31CIA-1103slake333 * r31695 10SpellWatch/ (5 files):
18:03.31CIA-11SpellWatch: 3.2.0
18:03.31CIA-11- No-autocancel option no longer affects resists
18:03.31CIA-11- Scale, font size, and growth direction may be set per-anchor now
18:03.31CIA-11- "group" field now accepts strings
18:03.32CIA-11- Added "Refresh on Melee" option to timer configuration
18:04.20HjalteFiske-, it's the castbar.
18:04.26HjalteFisker-*
18:04.27Fisker-wtf?
18:04.33Fisker-who the fuck made it fugly?
18:04.39Fisker-gtfo my pitbulls :/
18:04.59CIA-1103whitetooth * r31696 10TankPoints/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
18:04.59CIA-11TankPoints: 2.5.4
18:04.59CIA-11- Fixed incorrect armor calculations in tooltips for Druilds
18:04.59CIA-11- Added Taiwan localizations by CuteMiyu
18:05.32Mikmathe current castbar-look is from agUF and I find it much better then the previous version
18:06.00KemayoI like the agUF castbar style, definitely.
18:06.07NeoTronhas anyone made a castbar that contains overhealing information and such ? (used to have an addon which had a really smart overheal calculation that was visualized in the cast bar)
18:06.18KemayoMight be good to have it as a layout-option, though.
18:06.29Fisker-AG_UF didn't have a hueg liek xbox grey block in the bottom
18:06.32NeoTronseems to have been the only addon with that feature (it also took into account debuffs and buffs that affected healing on the caster and the target)
18:06.38Fisker-it had a discrete half-transparent black box
18:06.54knarf-ckknight when you alt + tab in and out the raid frames shows again, even though hidden is enabled :>
18:07.12MikmaFisker-: yes it has
18:07.41KemayoI will confess to not having logged in since the castbar change. :)
18:07.59MikmaKemayo: some dork raped the default layout to fugly!
18:08.04NeoTronbtw nice in Bigwigs how it let me know I was in the cave in before I could notice myself (on Gruul)
18:08.11Fisker-Looks way more ugly than the ag_uf one
18:08.27KemayoScreenshots or GTFO.
18:08.50Amadeoxbox grey, rofl
18:09.04Fisker-ok kergoth
18:09.06Fisker-Kemayo
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18:10.55Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/fugly.jpg <-fucking fugly
18:11.09kergothhmm, we need an optionf or the pitbull castbar background color.
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18:11.47vhaarrFisker-: who, you or cyrukh?
18:11.53Nickencan manabar be positioned in layouts?
18:11.58KemayoHmm, that is a bit fugly.
18:11.58Fisker-both
18:12.05Fisker-also the castbar doesn't disappear before reloadui
18:12.25knarf-ckknight raid frames appear again if you zone it, even when they are hidden :/
18:12.26shieldbFisker-, I noticed a serious issue with that screenshot
18:12.35shieldbyou're targeting a tapped mob instead of the healers healing their tank
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18:13.15Fisker-hehe :P
18:13.18Fisker-<-carebear
18:13.32Fisker-i saw they had serious issues holding their paladin tank up
18:13.38kergothNicken: no, it cant.  the healthbar side by side with the mana bar in industrial's layout is a figment of your imagination
18:13.40Fisker-so i went in and put seal of light on it and helped them
18:13.57shieldbFisker-, go in and HoJ their healer at a critical moment, instead!
18:14.01CIA-1103whitetooth * r31697 10RatingBuster/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
18:14.01CIA-11RatingBuster: 0.9.4
18:14.01CIA-11- Added Taiwan localizations by CuteMiyu
18:14.09Fisker-NEVER
18:14.31shieldbooo question for pve server players
18:14.43shieldbif you and someone on the other faction are NOT flagged for pve currently
18:14.58shieldband you judgement of light their target
18:15.07shieldbdoes the healing from the judgement flag both of you for pvp?
18:15.54Fisker-i'm on a pvp server anyways
18:15.59Fisker-so dunno
18:16.04Fisker-but i doubt it
18:16.10sylvanaarwho as mod on the forums? anyone on?
18:16.12shieldbFisker-, yeah I can tell from the shot you're on a pvp server
18:16.37shieldball the alliance are red instead of yellow or whatever it is for unflagged
18:17.45Antiarc|WorkHoly craps!
18:17.46Antiarc|Workhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=88680668&sid=1
18:17.54Antiarc|WorkSweeping Strikes removed from all BC NPCs
18:17.58Antiarc|WorkGlancing penalty reduced
18:18.09kergothwoa
18:18.09Antiarc|Workmajor Flask and Elixir changes incoming
18:18.24shieldb"We’re also reducing the Glancing Blow damage penalty for creatures 1-3 levels higher than the player"
18:18.25shieldb!!!!!!
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18:18.35Heriono
18:18.40Bibi`ouFWait wait, they're buffing melee DPS class ?
18:18.47Bibi`ouFLuckily, my hunter isn't a DPS class anymore !
18:18.48sylvanaarkergoth do you have forum mod?
18:18.50Antiarc|WorkWell, fixing some of their problems, yeah.
18:18.54shieldbI play a rogue and I've only read the first three or four lines so far
18:18.55Fisker-WTF
18:19.01HerioI think they're just reducing all cleaves frontal cone from up to 360
18:19.02Fisker-THE fucking figured rogues have a problem
18:19.09Antiarc|WorkHerio: Read the link
18:19.14Bibi`ouFYeah, but still nothing for my huntard
18:19.14shieldbit looks like christmas so far, I'm not sure if I want to keep reading
18:19.17Antiarc|WorkThey're removing Sweeping Strikes as well.
18:19.28HerioAlso, we’ve changed the NPC cleave mechanic so that it’s now a frontal cone ability rather than a 360 degree chain attack. Sweeping Strikes has been removed from all Burning Crusade NPC’s.
18:19.30Heriointeresting
18:19.32Bibi`ouFWe'll probably get a tranq shot 2.0 in the next patch to make us useful again
18:19.43Antiarc|WorkMisdirection! :V
18:20.04Antiarc|WorkHunters are really useful for chain trapping, for what that's worth.
18:20.09Antiarc|WorkAnd pulling, naturally.
18:20.25Antiarc|WorkWe use 'em for Maulgar, too, as shammy tanks
18:20.38Heriothe seduce changes will be nice
18:21.45Heriohttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/260746076.htm
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18:22.56kergothsylvanaar: i think so, i never use it.  what do you need?
18:23.22sylvanaarkergoth can you lock http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4005.0
18:23.43Mikmais prat dead?
18:23.58Herio"We are gearing up for release, so I'm restarting the thread."
18:23.58Heriono
18:24.05sylvanaartheres a new thread
18:25.05kergothshould be locked now.  not sure how to check..
18:25.07kergothheh
18:25.34vhaarrtry posting :)
18:25.45vhaarryeah, it's locked
18:26.23Mikmacocklock!
18:27.15kergothhmm, barfader is nice.. yet another thing i thought i wouldnt like, but which grew on me anyway
18:27.59sylvanaarPrat has stabilized, so i dont need 19 pages of old bug reports, thanks Kergoth for your help
18:28.12Mikmadoes it still make your health/mana flash when you regen?
18:28.55|moonsorrow|the only thing now that is missing is the same animation when the bar fills up
18:29.06|moonsorrow|argh stupid nick
18:29.30|Herio|now I'm the one with the pipes
18:29.33|Herio|muahahahaha
18:29.33kergothsylvanaar: np
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18:29.59Mikmapipe it down chachi
18:30.23Herio=(
18:31.34DaemonaYAY i will be viable in raids again? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=88680668
18:31.52Heriono
18:31.59Herioyour friends have out geared you
18:32.04Herioyou're still worthless =(
18:32.37DaemonaQQ
18:33.57Chomperswhat does the post say?
18:34.13Chompersclink doesnt say
18:35.53AmadeoI don't trust that thread
18:35.56AmadeoIt's just a level 1 Troll!
18:36.01nevcairieli should really mod SCM to hook into my WIM message handler
18:36.04nevcairielstupid gold spam
18:36.31shieldbSCM?
18:36.41Heriostar craft map
18:36.42Herioclearly
18:36.58shieldboh, duh
18:37.01shieldbobviously
18:37.01harl|CSIi want an add-on that can cook me something to eat
18:37.23AmadeoWife 1.0?
18:38.10nevcairielSimpleChatMods .. specifcally the antispam
18:38.32Mikmanevcairiel: spamsentry?
18:39.45shieldbnevcairiel, I run spamsentry and that seems to catch pretty much everything (including stuff through wim)
18:39.57nevcairielnah i dont want a new mod
18:40.01nevcairielSCM works good for that
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18:41.50nevcairielif i add WIM to the OptDeps, it should always load before SCM, right?
18:42.04nevcairielsounds right to me
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18:43.09TecnoBratHowever, there is a bug when you link something to yourself .. you get d/c :P
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18:46.06Daemonaspamsentry and WIM work well together :)
18:46.07harl|CSIAmadeo: no way ever.
18:48.54Amadeo:(
18:49.34TecnoBrato.O a new tabbed mode for WIM?
18:49.43nevcairiel?
18:49.54TecnoBratThere is a new WIM 2.0
18:50.06nevcairieli know
18:50.10nevcairielbut didnt discover that mode
18:50.11nevcairiel:D
18:50.27TecnoBratYea, I was just looking at the new features
18:50.32nevcairielah there
18:50.38TecnoBratI hope it highlights the tabs when you get new messages, etc
18:50.48TecnoBratI'd love for WIM to handle custom channels too
18:50.52CIA-1103darkimakuni * r31698 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (14 files in 6 dirs):
18:50.52CIA-11FuBar_QuestsFu:
18:50.52CIA-11- If the details frame is open and we make progress on the quest it's watching, then let's update the frame to show the gained progress.
18:50.52CIA-11- Also nuked some trailing whitespace.
18:50.52vhaarrnevcairiel: Did he actually fix the issue with AceComm?
18:51.23CIA-1103whitetooth * r31699 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
18:51.23CIA-11StatLogicLib:
18:51.23CIA-11- deDE localization by Gailly
18:51.23CIA-11- Fixed error
18:51.36AmadeoWouldn't WIM make it difficult to reply to someone on the fly?
18:52.13Fisker-lmao
18:52.21Fisker-just saw that tigole posted another post
18:52.39Fisker-Glancing blow change only affects rogues as they are the only ones who get glancing blows
18:52.40Fisker-olololol
18:52.55renchapwhat about priests :(
18:53.03renchapneed to up our heals
18:53.07vhaarrno they don't
18:53.17vhaarrThey need to fix our survivability.
18:53.21TecnoBratAmadeo, not at all
18:53.29TecnoBratyou can still type /r
18:53.31Fisker-in crappy healing gear with my paladin i could pretty consistently hold my mana up vs. maulgar
18:53.34TecnoBratif you prefer
18:53.40AmadeoI see!
18:53.50nevcairielvhaarr: what AceCOmm issue?
18:53.50ckknightOminous: raid frames don't have grouping yet.
18:53.52vhaarrFisker-: So can a priest if he knows how to play.
18:53.55nevcairieli dont use any acecomm mod.
18:54.00vhaarrFisker-: Nub priests spamming flash heal will go OOM, of course.
18:54.01Ominousckknight: huh?
18:54.02vhaarrnevcairiel: old issue
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18:54.26Ominousckknight: oh, i sorted that with a macro
18:54.29renchapi am having mana issues and i dont use fh :)
18:54.52vhaarrnevcairiel: WIM used to show AceComm whispers.
18:55.22CIA-1103jerry * r31700 10Talented/core.lua: Talented: yet another bugfix
18:55.37CIA-1103ckknight * r31701 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - possibly fix bug where frames would appear on zoning.
18:57.21yacoobany recomendations for shaman mods? (I'm thinking about rolling a shaman)
18:57.26nevcairielvhaarr: oh yeah i know, he added an default filter for whisper starting with /
18:57.35nevcairielbut you could always fix that yourself with adding that filter
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18:58.54renchapyacoob: Yata
18:58.55sylvanaarvharr our priests were encouraged to use mana pots + flash heal
18:59.50vhaarrsylvanaar: by who?
19:00.10sylvanaaroh, priests dont need fixing imo, reroll resto druid, then will agree
19:00.49PhatrikT_T
19:00.57Phatriknil value error in latest update of ElkBuffbars
19:00.57sylvanaarvhaarr by other healers or raid leaders idk
19:01.14JoshBorkesylvanaar: i hate you.  but i agree :-/
19:01.21TecnoBratFisker-, I think you read that post by Kalgan wrong :P
19:01.32TecnoBratHes saying it doesnt effect pvp, since glacing blows didnt exist in pvp
19:01.52sergio_Phatrik: I just reset my SV lua and it works fine again
19:01.54TecnoBratnot that it effects rogues only .. as it will effect all melee dps
19:02.05sylvanaarresto druid used to be ok - but now its the worst possible spec/class to play
19:02.15sylvanaarfor the playe
19:02.17sylvanaarplayer
19:02.24nevcairielit is?
19:02.25nevcairieli enjoy it
19:02.35sylvanaarhow are those heroic 5 mans going?
19:02.48nevcairielgood
19:02.50kenlyricI can't imagine doing some fights without a fast heal.
19:03.23JoshBorkeapparently i suck at PvP
19:03.25kenlyriceven non-heroics there are plenty of places where you just want to go balls out, mana be damned.
19:03.27sylvanaar2 months been keyed = i get 'sorry we need a healer that can rez'
19:04.02AmadeoTell them you'll go DPS then :P
19:04.11Arrowmasterwe tend to always take 2 healers on heroics
19:04.22Arrowmastera main healer and an offhealer
19:04.22Fisker-still he says it's only for rogue pve dps
19:04.25kenlyriclet the shadow priest rez.
19:04.27sylvanaarwhy take a resto druid over a shamen
19:04.41Arrowmastershamen dont have hots?
19:04.51sylvanaaryawn
19:04.54CIA-1103kemayo * r31702 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull: Portrait: Drycoded! Configurable fallbacks. (You can tell it, per frame-type, what you'd like it to fall back to.) If anyone thinks of a more elegant way to express this, feel free to change it.
19:05.00TecnoBrat"This particular change affects rogue dps for pve only, as glancing blows don't happen against other players." <= hes stopping people from complaining about rogues raping people in pvp.
19:05.01KemayoI do hope that works. :D
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19:05.09sylvanaarthey have totems
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19:05.17AmadeoKemayo: That's like a 2D fallback? :)
19:05.31KemayoAmadeo: Yes, but more so.
19:05.36Amadeoawesome <3
19:05.41Fisker-finally Kemayo
19:05.48AmadeoI didn't know WIM was Ace2
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19:05.59sylvanaarand a group heal which is far more effective in most cases
19:06.00JoshBorkeso i decided that the Smooth Value Changing is going to be a separate module from BarFader
19:06.01KemayoAmadeo: For each portrait style, you can tell it which of the other portrait styles you'd like it to fall back to in that style's failure case.
19:06.05JoshBorkesince it doesn't make sense to clump them
19:06.23CIA-1103whitetooth * r31703 10TankPoints/ (About TankPoints 2.0.txt GPL.txt):
19:06.23CIA-11TankPoints:
19:06.23CIA-11- Updated about file
19:06.25AmadeoKemayo: Sweet :)
19:06.30AmadeoAll I need now are some hot layouts ;)
19:06.41IndustrialRequesting thread movage
19:06.46Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5519.msg91604#msg91604
19:06.54Industrialto the unitframes
19:06.56Industrialforum
19:06.57KemayoSo you can tell it you want 2d or 3d portraits if the class style is selected and the unit isn't a player, for instance.
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19:07.52renchapKemayo: portraits for wacky units works now
19:08.09AmadeoIndustrial: Nice shorts
19:08.22renchapbut sometimes my target of target portrait is me, but from feets to hairs
19:08.34Kemayorenchap: All credit for that fix goes to ckknight, alas.
19:08.50renchapi know :)
19:09.15IndustrialAmadeo: :D?
19:09.26Industrialoh
19:09.27Industriallol
19:09.44CIA-1103whitetooth * r31704 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-zhTW.lua:
19:09.44CIA-11RatingBuster:
19:09.44CIA-11- Bugfix in zhTW locale
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19:12.26Industrialckknight: Is it possible to make your own groups of unitframes?
19:12.43ckknightsoon
19:12.44ckknightnot yet
19:12.47Industrialk
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19:12.57Wiebbehumm, this is odd, i used the code from vhaarr his NTR, which creates an frame with an multi edit in it (with scroll bars)
19:13.03Wiebbesomehow his scrolls but mine doesnt
19:13.08ckknightand it'll be for raid frames specifically, I think
19:13.14Industrialwell
19:13.17Industrialhttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7154/wowscrnshot040207180141he4.jpg
19:13.23Industriali cant have castingbars there :(
19:13.26Silviu-~seen Roartindon
19:13.53purlroartindon <n=jtlim@ppp153-35.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 38d 15h 35m 26s ago, saying: 'Ah, so I'll have to speak to Kael?'.
19:13.58CIA-1103whitetooth * r31705 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster.lua:
19:13.58CIA-11RatingBuster:
19:13.58CIA-11- Version number update
19:14.00Industrial(in the middle)
19:14.41Nickenckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/10060
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19:14.56herio2snap
19:15.11sergio_just my opinion but if the aura for a frame in pitbull is set to right and you disable the buffs it shouldn't place the debuffs drawned right to left farthest away from the frame
19:15.13Industrial:(?
19:15.14herio2i got myself irc set up on my uni shell account
19:15.15ckknightNicken: update
19:15.18Amadeonevcairiel: Were you still working on more aura options?
19:15.24sergio_right now I have to enable split to get the debuffs closest to the frame
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19:15.50Industrialckknight: on the groups :)?
19:16.24ckknightwait, what?
19:16.39Nickenckknight: ah ok its fixed already, sorry
19:16.41Industrialwe cant get groups for the 'normal' unitframes? :(
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19:17.00Industrialcause then my layout wont work with them lol ;P
19:17.13ckknightIndustrial: ah, nah.
19:17.18ckknightI'm not sure yet
19:17.28Industrialk
19:17.48Industrial(doesnt matter for me cause i dont like seeing that much castingbars)
19:18.11Industrialmany*
19:18.43CIA-1103whitetooth * r31706 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
19:18.43CIA-11TankPoints:
19:18.43CIA-11- Version update
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19:19.05nevcairielAmadeo: yea i am
19:19.25AmadeoCool :)
19:19.31AmadeoI know there are some in there now
19:20.06nevcairielyeah positioning
19:20.11nevcairielbut its not soo great
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19:24.29AmadeoI agree
19:24.40Amadeo:)
19:24.58nevcairieltop bottom and right work fine
19:25.00nevcairielleft is weird :D
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19:25.06knarf-ckknight have you checked pitbull during zoneing and such ?
19:25.06nevcairielbut who wants left..
19:25.07nevcairiel:)
19:25.15ckknightnope
19:25.25HealthJoshBorke: Is it the bar fade bars that doesn't disappear every now and then?
19:25.26ckknightknarf-: did you try it since my last commit?
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19:25.31HealthAnd the mana one seems to get stuck.
19:25.33knarf-ckknight not sure
19:25.49JoshBorkeHealth: possibly
19:25.54knarf-r31677 i'm running that
19:26.00JoshBorkeHealth: are you fully updated?
19:26.18ckknightupdate
19:26.26knarf-can't i'm in a raid :P
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19:27.06Amadeonevcairiel: Only crazy people
19:27.21AmadeoMikma probably wants left
19:27.24mjchum
19:27.30JoshBorkeckknight: i heard rumors of BarFader being put in core
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19:27.40Amadeomjc: What key?
19:27.46MikmaAmadeo: wa?
19:27.52ckknightI heard rumors about your mom last night
19:27.58AmadeoMikma: Just talking about crazy people
19:27.59JoshBorkeckknight: i'm sure you did
19:28.14MikmaAmadeo: ok. i want what left?
19:28.22AmadeoMikma: auras on the left!
19:28.23mjcckknight: I'm trying to make a cart addon that stores a list of points and gets the other from the list of points for the zone
19:28.26HealthJoshBorke: Updated a few hours ago.. can update again :)
19:28.35MikmaAmadeo: i like them down, or right
19:28.36JoshBorkeHealth: hm, i suppose that should be fine
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19:29.17HealthWhen you moved the player frames two bars were still stuck at where they were... but reset when that stat (health/mana) was updated again
19:29.18mjcckknight: think instanceloot but you can toggle stuff between heroic/not heroic on the fly
19:29.24AmadeoMikma: I'm the only one alive that likes buffs on bottom and debuffs on the right side of the frame :P
19:29.28Silviu-ckknight , when u will make anchors for raid u will make for party too ?
19:29.38ckknightSilviu-: anchors?
19:29.58mjcckknight: I think for the first list I should store an array with some kind of reference to each point on the map and the second is just a list of all items in the zone that are *not* on the map
19:30.08Silviu-Well, would be nice 1 party anchor, all frames in same position if u align first
19:30.12Silviu-U know what i mean ?
19:30.15mjcckknight: but I'm sucking at lua.  not sure how to insert stuff into an array and not sure how to get stuff by reference
19:30.17mjc:P
19:30.25ckknighttable.insert(t, value)
19:30.26MikmaAmadeo: propably not, i like that one too but i like buffs separated on bottomline more
19:30.30ckknightor whatever
19:30.53mjcckknight: where's the list of points thinger
19:30.59AmadeoMikma: I could probably get used to either, but the way I like is what I got used to when MiniGroup was around :)
19:31.03JoshBorkewho was it that wanted smooth bar changing?
19:31.07mjc&& thanks
19:31.07ckknightwhat list of points?
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19:31.22Ominouslol just accidently restarted pc
19:31.28JoshBorkeOminous: smooth
19:32.25mjcckknight: i want to retrieve a list of all points in a zone created by my cart module
19:32.35ckknightdude, check the API
19:32.39mjcNotesDatabase?
19:32.39ckknightthere's a reason I documented it.
19:33.00MikmaAmadeo: mg fetishist!
19:33.01mjcsorry, I'm a tard today
19:33.05mjcforgot about the docs
19:33.09KemayoAwesome: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/02itunes.html
19:34.33Heriodelayed april fools
19:34.34Heriosucker
19:34.50kergothargh
19:34.54kergothsomething is causing my wow to hang on logout
19:34.58kergothno idea what
19:35.03Polleke[Ammo], ping
19:35.09Amadeovhaarr: http://i3.tinypic.com/29f9ldw.jpg
19:35.21HealthJoshBorke: I got a screenshot incoming
19:35.23Amadeohehe
19:35.27AmadeoI had to take a screenshot in game
19:35.43moonsorrowckknight: will there be some options that the combat text scales with the unit frame?
19:35.59ckknightpossible
19:36.09ckknightfeel free to code it up ;-)
19:36.20knarf-ckknight does the castbar still stay there if you hide it ?
19:36.24knarf-the size of the frame
19:36.29Ominousckknight: itBull-r31701\PitBull.lua:839: Dewdrop-2.0: args.targettargettarget.args.Portrait.args.fallback.args.3D: "args" must be a table
19:36.30moonsorrowI expected that answer :P
19:36.35ckknightknarf-: I believe so
19:36.50knarf-I got borders enabled
19:36.50ckknightOminous: bug the author
19:37.06Ominouswho is the author...
19:37.10Mikmackknight :D
19:37.13vhaarrAmadeo: :P
19:37.13kergothwouldnt be hard to alter the layout to change the setpoints of the health bar and mana bar to adjust to cast bar removal without changing the frame size, but *shrug*
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19:37.17ckknightno, Mikma
19:37.33ckknightOminous: Kemayo
19:37.36ckknightI believe
19:37.39Ominousok
19:37.48Ominouskemayo: itBull-r31701\PitBull.lua:839: Dewdrop-2.0: args.targettargettarget.args.Portrait.args.fallback.args.3D: "args" must be a table
19:39.08CIA-1103kemayo * r31707 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull: Portrait: Ooops, type was still 'group' where it should have been 'text' in one place where I'd changed my mind about approach.
19:39.11KemayoOminous: Ooops. :)
19:39.21OminousHEHE :d
19:39.25Ominoussigh caps
19:40.27Fisker-lol
19:40.34Fisker-why the fuck was the topic tigole made deleted?
19:40.56Herioeh?
19:41.07Tornhoofnetheara deleted it
19:41.10HealthJoshBorke: http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pitbullaa4.jpg
19:41.13Tornhoof"accident"
19:41.33AmadeoNeth gets on my nerves
19:42.08JoshBorkequestion:  if i were to make a module to show smooth changing of the StatusBars in pitbull, i should just use the statusbars that are already there, correct?
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19:42.27Fisker-typical neth
19:42.47moonsorrowJoshBorke: I really like how it is right now
19:43.11JoshBorkemoonsorrow: what do you mean?
19:43.46moonsorrowif you just use the statusbars that are already there, you wouldn't get the same animation, or am I wrong?
19:44.22JoshBorkemoonsorrow: wrong.  the bars would change and then the very next instruction would be to change them back and smooth down to the new value
19:45.17mjchmm
19:45.19moonsorrowchange them back? Don't get it
19:46.12mjchmm.
19:46.40JoshBorkehere's how it would happen:  you get hit for 10% of your life, UpdateHealth gets called, i grab the current value (100), the original function gets called, the statusbar gets set to 90, my function then continues, sets the value back to 100 and starts smoothing it down to 90
19:46.47mjcckknight: if I tell IterateNearbyNotes to use nil radius and nil maxnotes I should get all the notes in that db yes ?
19:46.57moonsorrowJoshBorke: yeah, but currently it is different
19:46.58ckknightprobably
19:47.05ckknightif the API says so, it's probably right.
19:47.23JoshBorkemoonsorrow: perhaps we're talking about something different then...
19:47.29PhatrikFisker- , deleted or not, the community is fast to copypasta whatever is said : http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/games/40/world-of-warcraft-the-burning-crusade/articles/1381/update-from-the-front-lines/
19:48.26moonsorrowaren't you talking about the smooth changing of the bars currently in your module?
19:48.35JoshBorkemoonsorrow: yea
19:48.54MikmaKemayo: Portrait.lua:132: attempt to index field 'portrait' (a nil value)
19:49.06moonsorrowSo I am
19:49.53JoshBorkehrm, i guess mine is just functioning different than everyone else's :-D
19:50.02CIA-1103kemayo * r31708 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull: Portrait: If I want to delete portrait.fallback, I should probably check for it *before* I delFrame portrait.
19:50.14JoshBorkeHealth: heh, nice bug :-D
19:50.16KemayoMikma: Tada!
19:50.19mjcckknight: well the zone argument shouldn't be nil according to the docs... elt me look at the code
19:50.22MikmaKemayo: danke
19:50.43HealthJoshBorke: I pretty much get it every time I move the frames
19:51.16HealthJoshBorke: And the mana bar fade seems to get stuck and not fall back to the darker color
19:51.45mjcckknight: it won't, I'll have to iterate through each zone I guess.
19:51.56ckknightright
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19:55.50moonsorrowJoshBorke: I'm just referring to the current implementation in your module. And as I said, I like the way, because you can see the actual value beside a nice animation
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19:56.21JoshBorkemoonsorrow: yea, that makes sense.  which is why i think mine is just different than everyone else's :_D
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19:57.24moonsorrowAnd I would really like to see that same animation when the bar fills up
19:57.31Industrialhm wha what module
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19:58.40JoshBorkewell, my hour for relaxing is over
20:00.19JoshBorkeso i'll have to look at it later Health
20:00.31JoshBorkeHealth: check with nymbia if you're still on and he logs in
20:01.03Healthokidokie
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20:03.42rubikanyone got a working lua parser coded in php?
20:04.00rubik(that still works after blizz changed how they save arrays/tables with 2.0.x, whatever x was, i forget)
20:04.18*** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-75-9.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
20:05.02nevcairieljust adapt an old php thingy?
20:06.05Fisker-when hell freezes over nevcairiel
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20:06.56rubiki think i tried to (mod old php thingy) and almost got it to work but gave up for some reason.. hmm
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20:11.02krunk-Heya, I'm looking for a mod that consolidates mage spells. Like a fubar mod or some such for portals, food summoning, etc.
20:11.59xyuCryolysis
20:12.02HealthHej krka!
20:12.03xyuit's not ace tho
20:12.18xyuI'm not sure if it's updated either.  I used to use Cryolysis back in the day.
20:12.56xyuthe more recent versions are apparently only on curse
20:19.38Elkanolol? http://i9.tinypic.com/46z8tg0.jpg
20:20.47nevcairielhrhr
20:23.19krkahej!
20:23.28ckknightlol, Elkano
20:24.00TecnoBratyou see the ytmd for that?
20:24.07TecnoBratI cant remember the name .. but its good
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20:24.23Sarozvhaarr my man
20:24.25Sarozyou wrote NRT?
20:24.31ckknightthe trash temple
20:24.39mjcckk, busy? :P
20:24.46ckknightyes
20:24.53mjcof course.
20:25.33ckknightoh fuck, I need to make a presentation on Python
20:25.36ckknightin like an hour.
20:26.20Sarozl2syntax
20:26.21Sarozdone
20:26.35renchapruby > python
20:26.37renchapdone
20:26.45renchapnext week, ruby presentation
20:26.57mjcouch.
20:27.13cncfanaticsomg, disabled questsfu thru its dewdrop menu & can't reenable it now -.-
20:27.23cncfanaticsanyone know how ? :p
20:28.05Industrialby boosting me
20:28.10Industrial:3
20:28.24mjc<PROTECTED>
20:28.25renchapcncfanatics: delete your wdb, wtf, interface folder
20:28.29renchapand reinstall wow
20:28.31mjclol renchap
20:28.33renchapand your computer
20:28.33Pucmelehm rube + python == burn in hell ... perl ! awk !
20:28.36Pucmelruby ofc
20:28.49TecnoBrathttp://tbcraiding.ytmnd.com/
20:29.12Industrialrealtime >:(
20:29.13Pucmelwell check latest post on http://www.worldofraids.com
20:29.18Industrialytmnd + realtime = suck
20:31.22TecnoBrat"lead you into the SHRINE OF THE SILVER MONKEY"
20:32.10Industriali prefer not to be in a silver monkeys... shrine..
20:33.22TecnoBratlol
20:33.38chuckgIs there a way to dynamically change a dewdrop buttons "disabled" setting without rebuilding the menu each time it changes?
20:34.08shieldbTecnoBrat, gogo Olmec!
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20:52.38CIA-1103toadkiller * r31709 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/: ./GridStatusMissingBuffs
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20:58.14clad|workart3mis: If you go back in Clique versions, I had a version that did add a mole to any frame you clicked on =)
20:58.48Saint-Nwow
20:58.54Saint-Nthat was a super delayed response ;P
20:59.03Saint-Ndid it make squeaky noises?
20:59.11kenlyricpuis that from this morning?
20:59.21Saint-Nyeah
20:59.22clad|workno, no squeaky noises =)
20:59.32Saint-Nhehe squeaky noises would be rad
20:59.33clad|workyou had to open the config GUI, and type m, o, l, e
20:59.37clad|workand it woudl activate it =)
20:59.38Saint-Nhah
20:59.40clad|workthe graphic was cute :P
20:59.59Saint-Nthe terminate war dialer password is what that made me think of
21:00.43Saint-Nmy dnd right now is Greetings Professor Faulken. Would you like to play a game? (y/n):
21:00.48Nickencan someone explains why neither the chat nore UFs show that someone is offline but the tooltip does?
21:01.07Saint-Nin what niken?
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21:01.17Nickenin WoW? :-P
21:01.26Saint-Nthat would be wrong ;P
21:01.34Saint-Nperl classic does it fine
21:01.51Saint-Ngreys is and reads OFFLINE in the health bar
21:02.01NickenIm in a party and my pal went offline (he wrote he disconnected on MSN) so i checked ingame again and nither the UF nor chat tells me hes offline but the tooltip does
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21:02.17Saint-Nthen get a better uf ;)
21:02.45renchapNicken: the server dont know that he is offline
21:03.26Nickenbut my client knows? (cus the tooltip tells me hes offline)
21:04.06renchapweird
21:04.18Fisker-You get a system message when a party member goes offline
21:04.21renchapsome bug with events fired i think
21:04.23Fisker-so your chat is bugged
21:04.25kenlyricthat happens to me all the time
21:04.31ravagernlelkano: http://ace.pastey.net/10074 attempt to index field filter
21:04.33kenlyricno, lots of people report it.
21:04.36Nickenso my chat and UFs are bugged yay
21:04.47kenlyricUF says they are online, Chat says they are online, but when you hover over them, their tooltip says offlilne.
21:04.52kenlyrictheir body can even still be there.
21:04.59Nickenyup
21:05.07kenlyricit's not a bug. Working as intended :)
21:05.26Elkanoravagernl, did you delete your saved variables as told in forum or changelog?
21:05.42ravagernl:o no not yet
21:05.49ravagernlwhat is the databasename
21:06.31ravagernlElkBuffBarsDB?
21:06.37Elkanosimply remove SavedVariables/ElkBuffBars.lua
21:06.51Elkanobut logout before doing so
21:07.02CIA-1103toadkiller * r31710 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/ (GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua GridStatusMissingBuffs.toc):
21:07.02CIA-11GridStatusMissingBuffs:
21:07.02CIA-11-Adding orphaned by author MissingBuff status so it can get maintained. Only shows an indicator when a buff is missing. Also handles combined buffs like GotW & MotW etc.
21:07.23ravagernlnah, i did a /run ElkBuffBarsDB=nil and then a /rl
21:08.20Elkanook, if that'll call OnInitialize again it should be fine ^^
21:12.06mjcmy brain hurts!
21:14.10Ominouskaelten: ping
21:14.55Kemayocncfanatics: Right click on FuBar itself, and you'll get a list of addons to enable/disable.
21:15.21Polleke[Ammo], ping
21:15.58ravagernllol, I named my Inner Fire Hot CHilli Sause.
21:16.47Ominousis anyone here a website administrator for wowace?
21:16.47mjcargh
21:16.57mjccartographer is not for people as dumb as me.
21:17.37ravagernlomg what happened to bartender3 :S
21:17.44ravagernlI can't change actions :(
21:17.53mjcI'm trying to add data to my cartographer notes
21:17.59mjcany ideas?
21:18.03Ominous<PROTECTED>
21:18.03Ominous[22:15] <ravagernl> lol, I named my Inner Fire Hot CHilli Sause.
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21:18.08Ominousoops
21:19.49Kemayomjc: What exactly do you mean by "trying to add data"?
21:21.17mjcI'm working on a very basic cart module that adds notes and then displays them on a tablet, similar to instanceloot
21:21.38evlomfg
21:21.43evlthe 2.1.0 changes are like
21:21.45mjctrying to figure out where to store my info
21:21.46evlnice.
21:22.10renchapevl: link ?
21:22.17evlhttp://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-3172-1.html
21:22.24CIA-1103funkydude * r31711 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua:
21:22.24CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Lurker:
21:22.24CIA-11- fix diving timers, oops
21:22.32Kemayomjc: Check how InstanceNotes handles it? :)
21:22.48mjcKemayo: it looks it up by boss name, then iterates through the lot
21:22.53mjcnot through the notes themselves
21:23.07mjcI'm trying to do a list of each note in the tablet
21:24.04Eejdont' know what yo'ure getting excited about Tigole's post for
21:24.11Kemayomjc: You can iterate over notes in a zone with:  Cartographer_Notes:IterateNearbyNotes.
21:24.17evlEej: I'm a rogue?!
21:24.34Kemayomjc: http://wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer/Notes
21:24.38renchapi am priest/warlock :(
21:24.41evlEej: I think farming for flasks is slightly non-entertaining?
21:24.47Eejyou're still going to get destroyed by Leothoras the Blind
21:24.59evlEej: I think there's too much 25-man trash with ridiculous respawn times? :)
21:25.00Eejthey said they're changing elixirs and flasks, they did'nt say how they're changing them
21:25.12Eejit's a tiny bit too early to get excited
21:25.33evlEej: and i'd like melee dps in leather at 1 yard range should outdps *.* :)
21:25.36yacoobEej, all potions will cost 50s, available at potion vendor. How about that? :D
21:25.45Eejthat's still stupid
21:26.07mjcKemayo: yes but I'm trying to figure out how to store data in the note itself
21:26.39Eejconsumables are simply too powerful, but I'm pretty sure everyone's gone over this argument a million times
21:26.44evlyes
21:26.45mjcI registered my object as the note handler using RegisterNotesDatabase
21:26.50evlthey need to have harsh restrictions
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21:27.13evlconsumables should be so that your shittiesd geared member can get up-to-par, not boost a T3 melee DPS to T4+ with just pots
21:27.22Eejt4? more like t6
21:27.30Eejoh, just pots
21:27.36Eejthrow in flasks and you're boosting T3 to T6
21:28.58evlwhich is completely stupid
21:29.17evlnihlium used what, 200 flasks to get vasjh down, the mats listing alone for that killed my inner child
21:29.43yacoobevl, this is "fun". Go, play.
21:29.47mjcUsing the customer support "Auto-Unstuck" will now trigger the one-hour cooldown on the player's hearthstone.
21:29.49mjcnooooooooo
21:30.18evlyacoob: farming pots isn't fun :(
21:30.36yacoobs/pots//
21:30.39ravagernlfeck
21:30.45yacoobthat's why I left, mostly.
21:30.50ravagernlwhy dont they just remove that button then
21:31.51yacoobravagernl, because it works when you don't have your hearthstone with you
21:32.37ravagernlhmm
21:33.10CIA-1103funkydude * r31712 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua:
21:33.10CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Lurker:
21:33.10CIA-11- add wipemobs
21:33.13yacoobwhen you do have your hs, it basically uses it
21:33.18yacoobwhen you don't, it does something else
21:33.33yacoob(that's how people were crossing the invisible wall to get to Hyjal)
21:35.03Elkanoravagernl, so you like the new EBB?
21:35.11ravagernlyeah :)
21:35.14ravagernlreally smooth
21:35.39ravagernlmaybe add a flash or something to spice it up a bit more
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21:40.08CIA-1103funkydude * r31713 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua:
21:40.08CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Lurker:
21:40.08CIA-11- some warnings for spout, before it casts
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21:43.05FazLeeeNhi
21:43.20ravagernlhi :)
21:43.28FazLeeeNi've googled and found this log and wanted to ask if someone found a solution..
21:43.41FazLeeeN04:51.12Dekuna[2007/01/21 22:31:09-187-x1]: FuBar_QuestsFu-2.0.25613\QuestsFu.lua:832: Tablet-2.0: You must set title within a registration.
21:43.57FazLeeeNlink is http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowace/20070122.html.gz
21:44.17nevcairielwow thats old
21:44.28nevcairieli bet it was fixed aeons ago
21:44.29ravagernlyoure getting that error from questsfu?
21:44.38FazLeeeNyeah ravagernl
21:44.49FazLeeeNv 1.2
21:45.27ravagernllastest revision is 31698
21:45.39ravagernlthats 5k revisions later then yours
21:45.50ravagernlI would advise to update your addons :)
21:46.23FazLeeeNyeah i am checking the website
21:47.41ravagernlfazleeen: this is what most people here use if they do not have svn: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater
21:47.56FazLeeeNsvn?
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21:48.27ravagernlsub version number
21:48.44ravagernlits a system to keep a history of changes
21:48.51ckknightsvn = subversion
21:48.54ckknightthere's no number
21:49.43FazLeeeNno harm in adding number
21:49.50ravagernlevery time a change is made, a new revision exists
21:49.53FazLeeeNIP protocol, no harm in adding the protocol
21:50.47ravagernlbut about that updater, what i do is run that every day or so, and I have installed !!!standalonelibraries
21:50.48ckknightthere's no number, though.
21:50.54ckknightit's not like PIN Number
21:50.54FazLeeeNthanks rav for the help
21:50.59ckknightwhere PIN actually has number in it
21:51.05ckknightSVN = Subversion, there's no number
21:51.05FazLeeeNyour PIN code!
21:51.36ravagernlsorry, but I agree on that :P
21:51.53ravagernlck got owned
21:52.06ckknightdon't make me devoice you.
21:52.21FazLeeeNhe is not a voice even! :P
21:52.28*** mode/#wowace [+v ravagernl] by ckknight
21:52.30ckknighthe is now
21:52.32FazLeeeNlol
21:52.32*** mode/#wowace [-v ravagernl] by ckknight
21:52.34ckknighthaha!
21:52.40ckknightwhat'll you do without your precious voice?
21:52.42FazLeeeNyou did devoice though
21:52.46CIA-1103funkydude * r31714 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua:
21:52.46CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Lurker:
21:52.46CIA-11- doesn't always dive :s
21:53.10ravagernleh
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22:03.07FazLeeeNravagernl
22:03.21ravagernlyes
22:03.30FazLeeeNthe file wowaceupdater.exe should be run when i click it or it should be run by wow.exe?
22:03.40FazLeeeNbecause when i dclick on it i get an error
22:04.11ravagernlyou should unpack all of the files into a directory
22:04.12ckknightwell, done my Python powerpoint
22:04.19ckknighthave to present it, though
22:04.37ravagernlit doesn not matter where faz
22:04.50FazLeeeNalready one that, just run wowaceupdater.exe?
22:04.54Antiarc|WorkFazLeeeN: You may be missing the .NET framework.
22:04.54ravagernlI extracted into desktop/WAU
22:04.55ravagernlyes
22:04.56FazLeeeNone = done
22:05.00Antiarc|WorkIf so you will need to download it from Microsoft.
22:05.07ravagernlits just for updating your addons, not for running wow
22:05.16ravagernlthat would be against the EULA
22:05.28FazLeeeNi guess i have the latest .NET framework :/ let me check
22:05.36ravagernl2.0?
22:05.54vid``anyone know if nRaidTracker can export files for eqdkp?
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22:16.02vid``wee for netsplits
22:16.03ZealotOnAStickHeh, I'm not EU . . .
22:16.03Funkeh`lol
22:16.03nevcairielthen you are using an EU server :p
22:16.03Funkeh`use a US server if ya not :P
22:16.03nevcairielclients which suppres netsplits ftw
22:16.03nevcairiel*supress
22:16.04ZealotOnAStickin Pitbull, aura frame sizing - is it strictly controlled by "frame.auraFrame:SetHeight()" ?
22:16.04vid`so whats the verdict
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22:16.05vid`hows pitbull
22:16.05vid`i havent tried it yet
22:16.05ZealotOnAStick*shrug* I'm on whatever server it decided to connect me to.
22:16.05nevcairieli think the auraframe height doesnt matter at all
22:16.05vid`still using aguf
22:16.05nevcairielexcept for placing auraFrame2
22:16.05ZealotOnAStickThen how do I make them smaller?
22:16.05nevcairielchange the width
22:16.05nevcairielor wait
22:16.05nevcairielno
22:16.05nevcairielthat will only reduce numbers
22:16.05ZealotOnAStickand PitBull needs config/dewdrop options for altering the aura size.
22:16.06nevcairielyou cannot make the auras smaller at this point :)
22:16.06ZealotOnAStickWell, that's a problem for me then, as they're too damn big.
22:17.37nevcairielI know, and ive actually been working on soemthing like that, but i was too lazy today to finish it
22:17.37ravagernlwidth of buff/debuffs is width of uf / number of buffs per row
22:17.38nevcairielbuffs are always 16px wide
22:17.38Yinchiehrmm warlock tier 4, first set bonus is bugged?
22:17.38ravagernlah. scale
22:17.38Ominouschange scale for size
22:17.38ZealotOnAStickalso, I'm looking at abf.lua, and I'm not figuring out where (if it's even in there) where to change the placement of the icons for things like Resting, Combat, PvP, Leader, Looter, etc.
22:17.38ZealotOnAStickit looks like ck just copied the same placement from agUF's ABF, and some of those are stupidly placed IMO and they bug me (and I made my own modified ABF layout for agUF I load).  Where do I change those with PitBull?
22:17.38ckknightLayouts/ABF.lua
22:17.39ckknightfor PvP it should be pvpIcon
22:17.39ravagernlI guess options will be made for that if it can't be customized in the layout :)
22:17.39ckknightand then a function
22:17.39ckknightwith a setpoint thing in it
22:17.39ckknightof course it can be customized.
22:17.39ckknightthat's the _ENTIRE_ point of the layout
22:17.39ZealotOnAStickpvpicon - search string not found.
22:17.39ZealotOnAStickI'm LOOKING in Layouts/ABF.lua, I can't find where, that's the point.
22:17.39nevcairielit does not have to be present in the layout
22:17.40ZealotOnAStickOh.
22:17.40ZealotOnAStickI have to add a function to change it?  How do I know what the blasted default is?
22:17.40ckknightcheck the PvP file
22:17.40ckknightthere's an OnUnknownLayout function
22:17.40nevcairieland yeah its pvpIcon
22:17.40Ominousonce you have got the hang of setting out the layouts its very powerful D:
22:19.07winkiller"increases damage and healing by 10"  versus "+10 spell damage and healing" - only wording or real difference?
22:19.07nevcairielonly wording
22:19.07vhaarrand indeed when it only says "increases damage done by 10" or +10 spell damage" it might also affect healing
22:19.07vhaarrbut not always
22:19.08winkillerah.. item witrh "by up to 13"
22:19.08winkillerthat seems to be a difference though
22:19.08MikmaFunkeh`: whaddup?
22:19.08vhaarrno, that's just wording
22:20.19vhaarrall +dmg is "up to", it just means that it's different from spell to spell
22:20.19Funkeh`Mikma?
22:20.19MikmaFunkeh`: you pinged me last night
22:20.19TecnoBratI wish blizzard would be consistent in their tooltips.
22:20.19winkillerah, and "+72 healing" as in some outland stuff is REAL +72
22:20.20winkillerand up to really means up to
22:20.20vhaarr"real"?
22:20.20Funkeh`yeah, i was wondering if there is an easy way to move the minimap in your mod
22:20.20vhaarrwinkiller: No.
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22:20.20MikmaFunkeh`: nope, not a way :P
22:20.20vhaarrwinkiller: *everything* is "up to".
22:20.59winkillerah ok
22:20.59Funkeh`bah
22:21.28ravagernlyoull have to comment in mikma's files hehe
22:21.28winkillerthanks vhaarr
22:21.51Mikmaon what files
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22:23.47ravagernlomigosh fallback of 3d portraits to 2d
22:23.47ravagernlyay!
22:26.07kergothheh, the pitbull grouping stuffs needs work
22:26.26kergothparty pets arent fitting in between the party members properly, and party targets should really be next to the party member they refer to, not a seperate group..
22:26.31kergothits certainly progress though
22:26.32kergothravagernl: nice
22:27.01TecnoBratlazy question..
22:27.06TecnoBratpitbull = ?
22:27.13shieldbunit frames
22:27.14kergothckknight's unitframes
22:27.31kergothdangit, fubar_ankhtimerfu didnt detect my reincarnating, didnt start the timer :\
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22:28.43ravagernlomfg configuration mode ala DUF also
22:28.45JY|screenc'était pas un bug exploit je cris
22:28.46ravagernlck is evil
22:28.49JY|screenmt sorry
22:29.20ckknightyou will _not_ get as much configuration as DUF
22:31.38rubikthat's a good thing...
22:31.45Stephmwckknight: but I want my frames stripy!
22:32.02ckknightstripy?
22:32.22Stephmwonly kidding
22:32.36Stephmwstrobing frames... bliss
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22:38.48CIA-1103rophy * r31715 10SimpleCombatLog/ (4 files):
22:38.48CIA-11SimpleCombatLog:
22:38.48CIA-11- Will now load default settings for characters with empty PerCharSV.
22:38.48CIA-11- Added localization-zhTW.lua.
22:42.26ckknightMy ego is large!
22:42.50chuckgI have an idea for an addon.
22:42.53chuckgIt's called Ginormous.
22:43.11chuckgAll it does is calculate ck's ego based on how many addons have his name set as the author.
22:43.12chuckg=D
22:44.07sergiofix the ABF layout big ego
22:44.10sergiokthx bai
22:44.35renchap:(
22:44.49MikmaDENIED
22:45.15sergiothat was unexpected
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22:50.47nymbiaZealotOnAStick: ping
22:51.36JoshBorkenymbia: fix up BarFader to make Smooth work for growing and everything else too, kthxbai
22:51.56nymbiai was thinking about that
22:52.08EejI'm still curious as to whether you can make party targets in ag :<
22:52.48nymbiaprobably end up being simpler code than what we've got now
22:53.19StephmwEej: you can
22:53.20JoshBorkenymbia: the smoothing stuff is stupid easy if you ask me, since the cosine just works, so to speak
22:53.29StephmwEej: there's a post on the forums that does just that
22:53.46nymbianice
22:53.46StephmwEej: I'm giving pitbull a go instead though
22:54.02nymbiayeah shouldnt be too bad to do both directions
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22:54.33Stephmwwb ckknight
22:54.37JoshBorkenymbia: i don't have time to :_D
22:55.47nymbiawell it also just builds off the code i wrote for reverse/deficit
22:55.54JoshBorkeyea
22:57.03Eejpitbull eh
22:58.29Mikmanymbia: btw you broke the reversed-layout on bars with the update you made so i reverted it back
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22:59.06nymbia>.<
22:59.56JoshBorkesee mikma!  i told you he broke it!
23:00.02Mikmayes you did :D
23:00.22nymbialol
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23:02.37CIA-1103funkydude * r31716 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua:
23:02.37CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Leotheras:
23:02.37CIA-11- sync whirlwind
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23:09.50mjchttp://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-0402rampclosed,0,5079967.story?coll=sfla-news-broward
23:09.50mjcownt
23:11.07ravagernlckknight: the stack for auras (inner fire ect) is still a bit bugged, looks like center is attached to bottomright, or is that intentional
23:13.22shieldbnevcairiel, aha! I figured it out I think for the auras being way too small - in the particular layout it forces the scale to 0.7 instead of setting it to auto like most of the styles
23:14.16ravagernlckknight: maybe an outline would make it look better
23:18.55kergothpitbull auras, at least on the party, arent updating right away :\
23:23.04Mikmaok
23:23.18Mikmasomeone has messed up the Class-portraits of NPC
23:23.34Mikmathe SetTexCoord was there on purpose you know and now it's been removed
23:24.19JoshBorkemikma:  it was not, don't spread rumors :-P
23:24.35Mikmawell i have to add it there again, but this time i won't commit it
23:29.07ilifinwhat is it that randomly makes my ag_uf castingbar lag? ;_;
23:35.05art3misgypsys
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23:38.48CIA-1103mikma * r31717 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull: portrait:SetTexCoord(0,1,0,1) has a good reason to be on the line 101 on the Portrait.lua
23:39.18clad|workwho got commit 31337?
23:40.08_neuron_clad : have you talked with kemayo about lightheaded and an api/something for integrating it with his details frame?
23:40.19Daemonaclad|work -> loudmouth r31337
23:40.23clad|workyes, i should be able to commit it in the next day or two
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23:40.38Mikmaclad|work: neat
23:40.41_neuron_great, send me a msg when you do and I'll get cracking on supporting it
23:40.52clad|workits just gonna be an iterator based on key
23:41.06MikmanQuestLog gets LightHeaded love! <3
23:41.06ckknighthehy all
23:41.13Mikmaoh great
23:41.16Mikmait's THAT guy again
23:41.19ckknighthey*
23:41.23_neuron_hey ckknight
23:41.25ckknightur dum
23:41.34ckknighthey _neuron_
23:41.35Mikmaso r u
23:41.48_neuron_wanna be bombarded with random pitbull notes I put down while doing gruul's lair earlier? :P
23:42.19Mikmawhy of vourse _neuron_
23:42.59_neuron_Mikma, that was to the person/people that might actually do something about em
23:43.12_neuron_not to you, who's gonna sit on irc and /clap when/if they get around to doing it :p
23:43.16Industrialboredom. dont wanna sleep. dont wanna go to school tomorrow. ill do it at home. boredom.
23:43.45Industriali know
23:43.52Industrialill make a calculator
23:43.54Industrialfor 'fun'
23:44.14MikmaIndustrial: go code alt/shift/ctrl swap for zButtons
23:44.24Industrialthats not very fun is it
23:44.26Industrial:p
23:44.34Mikmamore fun than doing a calculator
23:44.34Industrialcalculator da!
23:45.26Mikma_neuron_: <CIA-11> mikma * r31717 PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: <- LOOK! I did something about it
23:45.51MikmaBTW, it's a smart move not to fall off from Outlands
23:46.04ckknightlol
23:46.13ckknightthe world is flat, try not to fall off
23:46.30Mikmai tried and failed. the good thing is that corpse will spawn to the edge
23:46.40Mikmaso you don't have to use spirit healer
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23:54.24_neuron_ckknight, any change of grouping options for raid frames?  That's the only frames I really really need it for
23:54.44_neuron_I went into AV earlier with the plan to setup all my frames, got to about player 20 in the raid and then decided I'll just hide em instead
23:54.51ckknightot yet
23:54.54ckknightI will
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23:54.57ckknightbtw, _neuron_
23:55.02ckknightonce you're in solo
23:55.14ckknightright-click PitBull->Global Settings->Configuration Mode->Raid
23:55.21_neuron_oh yeah, I noticed that a bit after, really neat
23:55.26_neuron_brilliant feature imo
23:55.41ckknightyep :-)
23:55.50ckknightgotta make the aura module work with it
23:55.55ckknighti.e. show fake buffs/debuffs
23:58.25*** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-75-9.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
23:58.37AmadeoPitBull-r31701\Portrait\Portrait.lua:89: attempt to call method 'SetTexCoord' (a nil value)
23:58.44Amadeowhen messing with Portrait fallback

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