IRC log for #wowace on 20070331

00:00.06kergothhmm, another issue
00:00.06Kemayo(I'm not saying it's impossible, mind.  I just have no idea how to do it.)
00:00.06kergothsometimes i target a mob and it has no name
00:00.13kergothand it never gets one, it isnt updated unless i untarget and retarget
00:00.21kergothit should attempt to get the name again if its empty
00:00.48JoshBorkekergoth, always finding bugs
00:00.58kergothheh
00:01.03kergothoddly enough, i can never repro bugs in my own stuff
00:01.05kergothit just works
00:01.09kergothbut other peoples stuff, thats different
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00:01.22ravagernlomg kemayo is a rogue
00:01.44ravagernlno wonder he doesnt care about the question mark, he kills anything anyway
00:01.57kergothhehe, this time my health bar is black on the target but the mana bar is correct, blue
00:02.37Mikmakergoth: disco-bars
00:03.12Cowboy__so, again.. i'm stumped
00:04.57CodayusHmm, the QuestFu tracker suddenly has...REALLY small font.  How can I change it?  :-/
00:05.12Gngskright click, size?
00:05.18CodayusAh ha
00:05.22CodayusI was clicking on the plugin in fubar.
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00:09.01Cowboy__CB_AS is my main object
00:09.18Cowboy__if I reference CB_AS:IsLoadOnDemand() manually i do get that same error
00:10.02kergothyou have an IsLoadOnDemadn method?
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00:10.12Cowboy__FubarPlugin does
00:10.18kergothah
00:10.26Cowboy__i was just guessing that my object inherits that method
00:10.37Cowboy__i'm not a big OO guy so a lot of this is guesswork for me
00:10.48Cowboy__i'm "learning"
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00:13.02FryGuylol i got spit on by using bigbrother
00:13.09FryGuycause i pointed out that someone broke the sheeps
00:14.27ravagernlehm
00:14.51ravagernlif i set a new mouseover uf how can i move it :P
00:14.51kergothTuller: ping
00:14.55kergothTuller: [2007/03/30 17:14:06-491-x1]: SellFish\db.lua:175: attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value
00:15.06kergothTuller: when accepting a new quest after turning in an old one and mousing over the rewards
00:15.13Tullerkergoth: hurray :)
00:15.30ravagernllmao
00:15.37ravagernlkergoth is bugking
00:15.51kergothhehe
00:16.00Mikmawanna bet on that?
00:16.05kergothonly because i've taken up residence at the bleeding edge
00:16.35Tullerkergoth: hurray for select(2 instead of select(3
00:17.09kergothhehe
00:17.10Mikmawell, hurray for tuller. now please copy the "look" of VendorValues :D
00:17.15PogoTribalravagernl: So it seems that I should probably delete all of my add-on information if I want to do standalone.
00:17.18kergothi'm using your svn, let me know when to update
00:17.45ravagernlpogotribal, if you mean deleteing savedvariables, no
00:17.48MikmaTuller: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/small5924.jpg
00:18.11PogoTribalSo all I should delete are the library folders within each add-on.
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00:18.29ravagernlwowaceupdater can do that for you.
00:18.31TullerMikma: have you tried /sellfish style?
00:18.41PogoTribalDeleteBeforeExtracting
00:18.43sbuMikma: you mean - copy as in stealing? :/
00:18.54ravagernlyes, and reinstall addons
00:18.55MikmaTuller: i only saw the 2 images you put up on wowi
00:19.11ravagernlit will reinstall without any externals/libraries
00:19.16TullerMikma: so you want the text, is what you're saying
00:19.39sbumhh - and whats the difference between colalight and sellfish? :p
00:19.40MikmaTuller: no, just a line that separates the values :) i kinda like 'em
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00:20.07ravagernlcolalight = ace2 :)
00:20.18Funkeh`hi
00:20.18ravagernland thats the only thing
00:20.21Mikmawhat i really like is KCI's way of creating a new tooltip!
00:20.26Mikmait's so lovely <3
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00:20.55Tullersbu: compressionish
00:20.57kergothlooks like sellfish may have a smaller footprint due to the way tuller is storing the included data
00:21.13kergothTuller: let me know when to update from svn to fix this, or let me know where to fix it
00:21.18kergothplease :)
00:21.55Tullerkergoth: I didn't have a working copy around :P
00:22.06Cowboy__ok, do i have to have "## LoadOnDemand: 1" in my TOC for it to work?
00:22.27Cowboy__because i don't have that.. and the error i'm getting is in :IsLoadOnDemand()
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00:23.09ravagernlyou probably want to have it load when the auctionhouse shows right
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00:23.25Cowboy__that makes sense, i never thought about that
00:23.33Cowboy__i just had it load all the time
00:23.34Cowboy__well
00:23.36Cowboy__hmmn
00:23.58Cowboy__i don't like the idea of a fubar plugin loading on demand because then it can change the flowing of the icons in the bar
00:24.05Cowboy__so i'd want it to always be loaded
00:24.23Cowboy__it's already set to hide the detached tooltip when the ah frame is closed
00:24.35Cowboy__but still.. i'm just trying to figure out how to make this error go away
00:24.46Cowboy__http://ace.pastey.net/9806-3b44
00:25.28Cowboy__if i load ClockFu and do /print ClockFu:IsLoadOnDemand() i get 1
00:25.31Tullerkergoth: updated
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00:25.38Cowboy__with my addon, i get nothing but an error.
00:25.49Cowboy__why am i getting an error? that's my question
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00:26.36kergothTuller: :) thanks.  spotted the problem you were referring to just as you said it was updated. hehe
00:27.38Cowboy__if i /print ClockFu:IsLoadOnDemand() i get "FuBar_ClockFu"
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00:27.50Cowboy__if i /print CB_AS.folderName i get nil
00:28.16Cowboy__what can make .folderName be nil?
00:29.23Cowboy__my addon is just in a folder called Cowboy_AuctionSearch
00:29.37Cowboy__containing Cowboy_AuctionSearch.toc
00:29.44Cowboy__and the collateral lua files
00:30.08Cowboy__i see in FubarPlugin-2.0.lua this:
00:30.10Cowboy__local folderName = select(3, debugstack(6, 1, 0):find("\\AddOns\\(.*)\\"))
00:30.50Cowboy__that regexp should match.. it should set .folderName in the next line... right?
00:31.20Cowboy__i don't know debugstack though, so i don't know how it works
00:31.41Cowboy__oops
00:31.50Cowboy__this line: if i /print ClockFu:IsLoadOnDemand() i get "FuBar_ClockFu"
00:31.52Cowboy__should be
00:31.56Cowboy__if i /print ClockFu:IsLoadOnDemand() i get
00:31.56Cowboy__<PROTECTED>
00:31.59Cowboy__arg
00:32.00Cowboy__argh
00:32.15Cowboy__-> /print ClockFu.folderName
00:32.18Cowboy__i am losing it
00:32.22Cowboy__afk for dinner :-/
00:33.03sylvanaarwhy does he need folder name?
00:33.12sylvanaarits just addon name
00:34.12Cowboy__ok reheating the ol porkchops
00:34.13Cowboy__i guess i'm not afk yet
00:34.47Cowboy__i don't need .folderName, the FubarPlugin function that is erroring uses .folderName and it seems to be erroring because .folderName for my addon is nil
00:35.02Cowboy__but why would it be nil? what have i done to upset the gods?
00:35.52sylvanaaroh, do you have a dependancy on FuBar?
00:36.10sylvanaarRequiredDep
00:36.18Cowboy__## OptionalDeps: Ace2, CrayonLib, DewdropLib, TabletLib, FuBarPlugin-2.0
00:36.19Cowboy__## Dependencies: FuBar
00:36.33sylvanaaris that tag right?
00:36.39Cowboy__that's in my TOC
00:36.41Cowboy__CB_AS = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0", "AceDB-2.0", "AceConsole-2.0", "FuBarPlugin-2.0")
00:36.45Cowboy__is in my addon
00:36.55ravagernlwrong tags
00:37.05sylvanaarRequiredDeps
00:37.10Cowboy__lol
00:37.21sylvanaar## RequiredDeps: FuBar
00:38.25Cowboy__i think i based my TOC on ClockFu's which has ## Dependencies: FuBar
00:38.38Cowboy__ya
00:39.17Cowboy__still getting the error tho
00:40.07Cowboy__thanks for the TOC fix tho guys
00:40.21Cowboy__still gotta figure out the other issue
00:40.52sylvanaardid you exit the game?
00:40.57Cowboy__yes
00:41.08Cowboy__ok i'm not THAT much of a noob
00:41.14Cowboy__but it's fair to ask that question :P
00:41.28sbuPitBull-r31438\Portrait\Portrait.lua:96: attempt to index field 'portrait' (a nil value)
00:41.31sbuckknight broke it :/
00:41.54ckknightNO U
00:42.07Cowboy__ckknight: maybe you have some insight
00:42.20Cowboy__if, after i fo my CB_AS = AceLibrary(... init
00:42.21sylvanaargo to your addons.txt file and see if you have ":enabled" on any line
00:42.25Cowboy__fo = do
00:42.31ChompersError:  AceModuleCore-2.0: The module "Portrait" has already been registered
00:42.31Cowboy__if i do that, THEN i do:
00:42.33Cowboy__CB_AS.folderName = "Cowboy_AuctionSearch"
00:42.36Cowboy__it works.
00:42.51Cowboy__but if i don't do that, i get an error in FuBarPlugin:IsLoadOnDemand()
00:43.10Cowboy__apparently .folderName isn't getting set to my addon's folder name
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00:43.20Cowboy__i think it's the voodoo
00:43.25Cowboy__i have been hexxed
00:43.30ravagernlchompers: delete pitbull_portraits, it has been integrated into pitbull
00:43.43Chompersah ha, ill do that now
00:43.53ravagernli found out an hour ago also
00:45.04CIA-1103toadkiller * r31441 10AutoBar/ (12 files):
00:45.04CIA-11AutoBar:
00:45.04CIA-11-- Split out Mana Stone conjure buttons for Mages
00:45.04CIA-11-- Fix bg mana & heal potion categories. Requires Reset on the profile tab.
00:45.17Cowboy__man this is a GREAT leftover porkchop
00:46.19Cowboy__a chop marinated in the tears of a man that can't debug his own code
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00:50.03Mikmaanyone bored? http://www.requiemforadream.com/ :D freaking cool webpages, one of the best i have seen in a loooooooong time.
00:50.31Chompersthis better not be dudes humping....
00:50.38Cowboy__wow that's an ooold site
00:50.39Cowboy__heh
00:51.21Mikmayeah, 7 years old site
00:51.32Mikmai've never seen it before tho :P
00:51.54Cowboy__heh
00:52.21Mikmai was just moments ago telling my wife how great the movie is
00:53.59Cowboy__it was cool
00:54.02Cowboy__fucked
00:54.03Cowboy__but cool
00:54.47Mikmain top100 of imdb
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00:56.06Cowboy__ok so i'm still trying to troubleshoot this whole :IsLoadOnDemand() issue
00:56.08mjcckknight: ping
00:56.15ckknightmjc: pong
00:56.16Cowboy__i have an idea on what might be causing it
00:56.25mjcckknight: <3 pitbull
00:56.30ckknight:-)
00:56.40mjcWTB aguf layout support though
00:56.41mjc:p
00:56.46Mikmaumm?
00:56.55Cowboy__is it possible that debugstack(6, 1, 0):find("\\AddOns\\(.*)\\") will fail if the addon's name is too long?
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00:57.00PogoHmm
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00:57.10ckknightmjc: never
00:57.10Cowboy__that's the local folderName = ... in FuBarPlugin:OnInstanceInit()
00:57.14Chompersheal prediction is fun
00:57.21mjcckknight: :(
00:57.22Cowboy__ckknight: ?
00:57.26PogoTribalDoes FuBar not work with Standalone Libs?
00:57.28ckknightmjc: it acts completely differently. I'm gonna say that PitBull's is a lot nicer
00:57.31ckknightmore powerful
00:57.51Chompersck: what about moving the buff bar about?
00:58.16ckknightChompers: it can be written into the layout now with options
00:58.20ckknightI'm busy right now
00:58.51ravagernllayout based options is what ck is talking about
00:58.55Chompersi dont want it right now i just thought it would be a cool idea to consider
00:59.10ravagernlso if a layout doesnt support a portrait for example, the option isnt listed
00:59.30ckknightravagernl: well, actually it's more the option to show the portrait on the left or right.
00:59.31CIA-1103funkydude * r31442 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua:
00:59.31CIA-11BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane:
00:59.31CIA-11- update frFR
00:59.32mjcckknight: I'd agree I've already looked at it
00:59.44mjcckknight: :)
01:00.01Cowboy__ok, well.. it's possible then that FubarPlugin:IsLoadOnDemand() is broken, just wish i knew for sure
01:00.25Cowboy__let me try something else with a long name
01:00.28Mikmawell, adjustable buffs (none/rows) is only thing i need anymore
01:00.50Mikmathe classicons are rather tasty too
01:01.27mjcI want to be able to get rid of the text on the mana bar :p
01:01.39ravagernlyeah using classicons too cause both 2d and 3d icons dont do what i want
01:01.44ckknightmjc: that's pretty easy
01:01.48kergothmjc: the text is customizable..
01:01.55mjckergoth: only for the right side
01:01.57Chomperscant wait till the options per bar takes up 2 pages of space :P
01:02.06kergothso write a layout that hides it
01:02.09kergothnot hard
01:02.25AmadeoI hope to see some nice looking layouts :)
01:02.33AmadeoSomething way different than the typical stuff
01:02.38ravagernlmjs: alt right click, mana, text, set the style to custom and make the custom field blank
01:03.02mjcthat's not what I wanted ravagernl I meant where it says class and race
01:03.07mjcbut I just made it minimum width anyways
01:03.31Chompersi can see options for health/mana text but not level/class/race
01:03.33ravagernlthen tell you want to change the classtext, not the manatext :P
01:05.42Mikma_neuron_: moo
01:06.34Cowboy__ckknight: will it cause a problem, that you know of, if i set CB_AS.folderName = "Cowboy_AuctionSearch" in my FuBar addon? it seems to stop the error from happening
01:07.07ckknightprobably not
01:07.17ckknightI bet the issue was that the folder's too long for FuBar to catch
01:07.52shieldbPogoTribal, so it looks like the 'broken' update for prat is just that it needs SharedMediaLib now
01:07.53Cowboy__that was my guess too, but FuBar_DamageMetersFu works fine
01:07.58_neuron_Mikma, sup
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01:08.26Mikma_neuron_: i seem to be missing an option to ONLY color the quest level, not the whole name
01:08.59_neuron_hm, I think I changed that a while ago, but I'll look at it to make sure later
01:09.16Mikma_neuron_: yeah, i tested everything. thanks
01:09.29Cowboy__is there a real difference between .name and .folderName? are they ever NOT the same value?
01:09.57deltronis there any way to sort the portaits in pitbull automagically in a raid?
01:10.42Cowboy__you know what...
01:10.44NightHawkTheSanelol
01:10.50Cowboy__i bet it is the length
01:10.52Cowboy__let me test
01:10.53NightHawkTheSaneso im doing this ubrs run for kicks, right?
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01:11.01Mikma_neuron_: and when using DetailsFrame, a "alt+key" or something to open questlog would be nice :D
01:11.02NightHawkTheSaneelemental mage staff drops earlier, and now the chromatic carapace drops
01:11.08kergothhah, nice
01:11.09NightHawkTheSanewe also broke ubrs.
01:11.21NightHawkTheSanegyth died before rend could dismount, and now we're a little trapped, it seems
01:11.29Chompershaha
01:11.48deltronhahahah
01:11.51MikmaNightHawkTheSane: call a gm :D
01:12.16ravagernlnymbia: stackcount doesnt update in pt3bar whenever i use something
01:13.37CIA-1103funkydude * r31443 10BigWigs/Karazhan/WizardofOz.lua:
01:13.37CIA-11BigWigs: Karazhan/WizardofOz:
01:13.38CIA-11- cleanup
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01:14.44Chompershope we get WizardofOz next week
01:14.49Chomperslooks like a lot of fun
01:15.15Mikmaso.. Where can you see a typo in this line?
01:15.15Mikmamikma@[~/Desktop/World of Warcraft/WTF/Account/MIKMA/SavedVariables]: rm SSUI.lua *
01:15.44deltronit's fun
01:15.52steinobye bye SV's
01:15.52deltronit's the best out of all 3
01:15.54UE|Daemonabad use of asterisk
01:16.05Mikmasteino: bingo
01:16.09steino:)
01:16.13Chomperswe had romulo + julianne for the first 4 weeks
01:16.17Chompersgod i hated that fight
01:16.29Cowboy__ckknight: it is indeed a path length issue. "addon_folder\addon_file.lua" MUST be 44 characters or less for .folderName to be set correctly. Why don't you just do self.Foldername = self.name instead? it might be more reliable
01:16.34deltronthat fight sucks
01:16.45deltronso, anyone? pitbull & raid
01:16.46Cowboy__my path length was 45 characters, so it didn't work.
01:16.46deltronheh
01:16.48ckknightbecause that doesn't work
01:17.00ckknightself.name is not always equal to the foldername
01:17.05Cowboy__ok
01:17.09Cowboy__that's a good reason
01:18.07Cowboy__you might want to do some error trapping then where .folderName is set so that if it is nil an error is alerted telling the user to manually set .folderName as it can't be determined automagically
01:18.32Cowboy__just so you don't have dudes like me spamming the channel for hours trying to figure it out
01:18.36Cowboy__.. or not
01:19.09AmadeoCan anyone recommend a good grinding spot at 42 (Rogue)?
01:19.26Chompersbadlands
01:19.28NightHawkTheSanetanaris
01:19.35Chompersthe elements to the north-west
01:19.35Cowboy__netherstorm
01:19.53Chompershurr
01:19.58Amadeothe rock elementals? that seems bad for melee
01:20.13Chompersim a 41 pally, doing great
01:20.13Cowboy__hmmn.. it's probably best to grind on humanoids to get more money
01:20.13deltronI ground those on my shaman
01:20.24Cowboy__you're probably not going to find a lot of use for elemental earth these days
01:20.31AmadeoYeah but I can't heal :) I need mobs that die fast!
01:20.36Cowboy__are you a skinner?
01:20.36NightHawkTheSaneI'd go to tanaris and grind the wastewander guys
01:21.24ravagernlwhat nighthawk says
01:21.36ravagernltheyre casters too
01:21.55NightHawkTheSanegood mageweave drops, which sell reasonably well, and they drop those wastewander pouch thingies, which you might still be able to turn in for xp
01:22.04mjcmethinks amadeo is a glider
01:22.25AmadeoWhat's that?
01:22.25deltronmjc: noob
01:22.29Cowboy__well, the bug is fixed. all rejoice, and thanks for the help
01:22.49GngskAmadeo, http://wowglider.com/
01:22.58Amadeooh, those bots
01:23.08mjcdeltron: howso
01:23.09AmadeoI wish I had the balls to cheat, but I don't :P
01:23.35Chompersdidnt everyone who used that program get banned recently?
01:23.52mjcnovember
01:23.55GngskChompers, then they just made new accounts
01:24.09AmadeoNightHawkTheSane: That's what I'm working on now, just kind of hard to pull them in singles
01:24.11mjcthey don't really manage to do much about it now a days though
01:24.15mjcand there are better ones out there :P
01:24.17Amadeothe casters die really fast
01:24.24Amadeobut then I gotta deal with the damn voidwalker
01:24.46Chompersall the botters appear when im questing
01:24.50Chompersgrree
01:25.06mjcreport 'em
01:25.09AmadeoGngsk: That's the Blizzard scam...ban gold farmers so they buy new copies of WoW, nice bursts of cash :P
01:25.14mjcyou never notice the ones that're good enough :P
01:25.17Chompersi have , still there after about 3 weeks
01:25.22deltronmjc: heh *shrug*
01:25.25mjcChompers: report 'em every day with spamsentry
01:25.29mjcdeltron: :p
01:25.34deltronbored waiting for kara to start
01:25.37mjcdeltron: WTB diode in votu :pp
01:25.58deltronlol
01:26.17deltronhow's votu treating ya?
01:26.22mjcfantastically
01:26.25mjcdoing kara tonight :p
01:26.41Chompersfull run?
01:26.56mjcfirst time. heh.
01:27.07mjc3/4 of the people have already been though
01:27.18Chompersremember the 30 min timer on attumens trash :D
01:28.28deltronmjc: let me know if you need help
01:28.35mjcdeltron: in kara ?
01:28.42shieldbChompers, gogo run incubator for tracking trash respawns ;)
01:28.56Chompersit tracks that?
01:28.57deltronadvice and such
01:29.03mjcah
01:29.03deltronoh really?
01:29.10mjcbigwigs does that already
01:29.11Chompershrm, ill have to let my raid know, we're using some crappy timer thing now
01:29.18deltronI'm going to grab that now
01:29.33shieldbyeah, incubator tracks trash in karazhan, gruul's/mag's lair, and part of SSC atm
01:29.34mjcbigwigs_respawntimers works fine :P
01:29.50Chompersi used that in MC once
01:30.00Chompersnever again, whole page of respawn timers
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01:30.22mjcwhy not fix it
01:30.24mjcduh
01:30.25Chomperscomplete information overload
01:30.25deltronthat's because there was that many goddamn mobs
01:30.26deltronlol
01:32.08Chomperswe're having a hard time in kara now, the freeloaders who went to the 40 mans have to do something
01:32.18PogoTribalGetting standalone libraries to work is a nightmare.
01:32.48PogoTribalI'm looking at completely purging the whole add-ons folder and re-downloading.
01:32.50ckknightah, I disagree
01:32.55ckknightnot a bad idea
01:33.12sergioless talking more pitbull
01:33.17PogoTribalBut I hit reinstall anyways.
01:33.18JJSheetslmao
01:33.21Chompershahhah
01:33.25PogoTribalI don't see why I have to delete anything.
01:33.44deltronpitbull needs to organize itself for raids :)
01:34.01Mikmachinese farmerboy needs to play my account
01:34.52PogoTribalBTW that comment about Bigwigs and the flood of respawn timers is true.
01:35.05PogoTribalI don't want to see every mob, what matters to me is the first mob.
01:35.07mjcyes it's true, but it's not like you can't just change it
01:37.22xlvii[11:35] <xlvii> are there any programs to boost the output of a soundcard?
01:37.22xlvii[11:35] <xlvii> i can't afford an amp at the moment :P
01:38.05mjclol
01:38.07mjcnub
01:38.51PogoTribalYour speakers don't get amplified enough?
01:39.39deltronholy shit!
01:39.46deltronthat healing thing is awesome in pitbull
01:39.47deltronlol
01:40.08xlviipogotribal, headphones.
01:40.13PogoTribalhealing thing?
01:40.45PogoTribalxlvii: Oh... well that's kinda weird, but I have a volume control in my headphones themselves.
01:40.47deltronit shows you who healed who with some green line
01:40.50AmadeoI miss good FPS games, I really hope TF2 is awesome...
01:41.07PogoTribalWhat mod?
01:41.09xlviipogotribal, me too. :P
01:41.30mjcAmadeo: I zoom into first person mode in wow when I miss Q3A and go pvp
01:41.33mjcsame fuckin deal
01:41.34mjc:)
01:41.47Yinchielol
01:42.05Yinchieyou use the mortal kombat or ut2k4 sound addon too?
01:42.06Yinchie;p
01:42.24mjccomix
01:45.01Amadeomjc: hahah
01:45.22AmadeoThe two FPS games I miss most are QWTF and the original Tribes
01:45.49Cowboy__heh tribes
01:45.57Cowboy__that was my baby
01:46.03ChompersSHAZBOT
01:46.10Cowboy__bloops
01:46.11Cowboy__heh
01:46.18JoshBorkehttp://joshborke.is-a-geek.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Mod-Screenshots&id=KCLV_Colored_001 current KC_Linkview
01:46.43Amadeohaha
01:46.54AmadeoThey kept redoing Tribes, but they always did it wrong
01:47.28Cowboy__dribes vengeance was really cool EXCEPT that they didn't support it and the servers wer really laggy and crashed a lot
01:47.40Cowboy__but the game was really neat for ... 3 days
01:47.49AmadeoIt wasn't too bad, but I recall a few things that annoyed me
01:47.58Amadeooh, one was that heat-seeking rocket thing
01:48.29Cowboy__heh
01:48.42Cowboy__i don't even remember it TBH
01:48.51Cowboy__we played T:V for such a short amount of time
01:49.02Cowboy__pity too since it was a great idea
01:49.13Cowboy__the original tribes was so cool though
01:49.20Cowboy__people STILL download my scripts for it
01:49.23Cowboy__it's wacky
01:49.34Cowboy__i don't know who would play that game now with all the cheating and happy flag etc
01:51.05mjclol at skiing
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01:55.43MikmaJoshBorke: doing that addon?
01:55.45Chompersquestion, does anyone here think warriors are overpowered?
01:55.52Cowboy__rofl
01:55.59Cowboy__afk
01:56.01MikmaChompers: depends :D
01:56.28Mikmamy wife can easily kill 3-4 same level mobs than she is (60+) with her dps warrior
01:56.57Mikmaat the same time that is
01:57.46ckknightI'm a pally
01:57.53ckknightI like to take on 6-8 at a time
01:58.00Chompersim hearing people are saying they need a nerf
01:58.11Chompersuhm, that was bad english
01:58.13Mikmackknight: yeah with longer time of course
01:58.22ckknightprobably, yea
01:58.35Mikmapeople are also saying that rogues are overpowered and they need to be nerfed
01:58.45Mikmapeople are also saying that blizzard should give everyone free epix
01:58.53xlviirogues don't need a nerf -.-
01:59.14Mikmai think the game is and has been pretty balanced all the time
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01:59.59Chompersi really dont want another warrior nerf
02:00.04Chompersthe last one we had was terrible
02:00.12Mikmasome chars may rise above others but that's usually the gear and skill combined
02:01.17NightHawkTheSanegear > skill, imo. :P
02:01.23PogoTribalHmm...
02:01.30Mikmayou got that the wrong way
02:01.36PogoTribalHow would I restore all of my cartographer waypoints after wiping my addon info and WTF folders?
02:01.44NightHawkTheSaneno, i dont think i do. you can outgear (almost) anything. :P
02:01.44PogoTribalAnyone know which specific files take care of that?
02:01.56ckknightbtw, hope people like party targets being in pitbull :-P
02:01.57ckknight;-)
02:01.59Mikmayes but if you can't play the class it's no use
02:02.13Mikmackknight: yes they will, if they can be enabled/disabled
02:02.31AmadeoNightHawkTheSane: I also think that gear > skill, only because WoW is such an easy game
02:02.41ChompersYAY
02:02.45kergoththis is pitbull, everything can be controlled, either in the layout or elsewhere :P
02:02.49ckknightMikma: off by default, one checkmark away from being shown, though
02:02.56NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: partially that, but partially because of how important gear is
02:03.06Mikmackknight: that's cool. i myself like partytargets and such in certain situations
02:03.33JoshBorkemikma: yes
02:03.40ravagernlckknight: when can we change name and class text
02:03.45JoshBorkemikma:  i'm doing the basics for kaelten, he's overseeing my work
02:03.49JoshBorkewhich is pretty crappy tbh
02:03.51AmadeoNightHawkTheSane: I hope that one day an MMORPG starts offering fun rewards for raiders but allows a PvP balance for everyone
02:03.53ckknightravagernl: when I get $5
02:03.55CIA-1103ckknight * r31444 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
02:03.55CIA-11PitBull - allow ability to hide/show groups arbitrarily.
02:03.55CIA-11- Added in a bunch of default groups, some hidden by default.
02:03.55CIA-11- made the GroupToLocale thing much nicer for plurals
02:04.05MikmaJoshBorke: oh, then you can do the "second tooltip" for him too!
02:04.08ckknightI have a gf now, and ice skating costs money
02:04.15JoshBorkemikma:  second tooltip?
02:04.19JoshBorkewtf are you talking about? :-P
02:04.23ckknightMikma: plztest kthx
02:04.31Mikmackknight: ok
02:04.41MikmaJoshBorke: KC_Items has a second tooltip in it :) it's lovely
02:04.49JoshBorkekc_items 2 has it
02:04.59JoshBorkeor have you not checked ito ut?
02:05.16Mikmawhen has it been "released" ?
02:05.25JoshBorkeit's on the svn in the branches
02:05.46JoshBorkeit only has an auction module in it
02:05.55Mikmaif it has been put there in last 3 months, no, i haven't seen it :D
02:06.01JoshBorkeyes, it has :-P
02:06.16Mikmai will propably check it tomorrow
02:06.49NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: it's not actually that hard to do.
02:07.09NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: arena gear that can only be used in arenas, raiding gear that can only be used in instances.
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02:07.27Gngskand unlimited bag space
02:07.40NightHawkTheSaneGngsk: bag space is an arbitrary limitation
02:08.46Mikmackknight: the tott frame is extremely cute :D
02:09.01ckknighthow so?
02:09.07Mikmahoney i shrink the frame!
02:09.10ckknightlol
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02:14.39JoshBorkeanyone got KC_Items installed?
02:14.39JoshBorkeah, nvm
02:20.39CIA-1103takadi * r31445 10Henge/ (Button.lua Modules/BubbleHenge/BubbleHenge.lua): Henge: Fixed some button problems
02:25.05CIA-1103ckknight * r31446 10PitBull/ (Mana/Mana.lua PitBull.lua):
02:25.05CIA-11PitBull - added option "Hide party frames in raid" - note: it also hides partytarget, partypet, anything that starts with party.
02:25.05CIA-11PitBull-Mana - don't show for targettargettarget
02:30.31deltronwhee shade of aran time!
02:31.39PogoTribalHow would I restore all of my cartographer waypoints after wiping my addon info and WTF folders?
02:31.41PogoTribalAnyone know which specific files take care of that?
02:31.59PogoTribalOr should I just re-copy all the files from the WTF folders?
02:34.42deltronany of the cartographer ones I would assume
02:35.08art3mishas anyone found a way to unlearn moon and take up a new branch withuot a full re-do?
02:35.39art3mislike with leatherworking
02:37.45NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: i dont think any of the "new" crafting specializations can be unlearned
02:37.52NightHawkTheSane(ie, tailoring, alchy)
02:38.04PogoTribalYeah you gotta retrain from skill level 1.
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02:38.16Solehey guys
02:38.19NightHawkTheSanei hope they fix that
02:38.22PogoTribalWhich makes no sense to me.
02:39.38Sole~seen Nymbia
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02:40.01ckknightNightHawkTheSane: they said it wouldn't be fixed
02:40.37NightHawkTheSaneckknight: thats a little idiotic then. "Sure, if you're LW, BS, or Engy, you can swich your spec all you want, Tailoring and Alchy? Go fuck a tree."
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02:41.18ckknight*thumbs up*
02:41.59Soleis there an addon which enables the raid leader to see which items (flasks, pots, etc) the raid members have?
02:42.08Soleis it maybe an oRA2 module?
02:42.22PogoTribalHave? Or have used at the moment?
02:42.30art3misactually i think i understand why they did it
02:42.31Solethey have in their inv
02:42.34NightHawkTheSaneora2/ctra can query raid members for items
02:42.42art3misbut its easy to fix if they thought it out
02:43.06PogoTribalI wouldn't understand art3mis, to change specializations would require the farming of more materials.
02:43.10art3misthe 3 epic pieces don't require you to be spec'd to wear them, only make them
02:43.45art3misso to get to 375 make the things respec make the other set
02:43.54art3misyou've got 2 epic sets you can wear with no effort
02:44.09nymbiaSole: sup
02:44.15deltronheh 85%!
02:45.39NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: that only applies to tailoring, though
02:47.57Solenymbia: Doodle = raid sketch thinger right?
02:48.28nymbiaSole: yeah
02:48.37Soleooer must try
02:49.23mjcmeh I need to get some more armor.
02:50.41Ozzwaldanyone have a moment to help a nub modder write a quick basic function?
02:52.19CIA-1103sid67 * r31447 10/trunk/ (4 files):
02:52.20CIA-11Fubar_ChatAlertsFu: initial commit
02:52.20CIA-11- Toggles sound and text popups for incoming chat messages.
02:55.49SquishemHardCan someone help me out with how I would change nameList of a group in a Grid layout after I have done the initial AddLayout? Been banging my head against the wall for a while now on this one :(
02:56.45xinman. I keep getting ##csharp and #wowace mixed up. You both talk about the same sort of thing and 20 mins ago somebody was talking about his +5 sword of fortitude
02:57.04NightHawkTheSaneThe fun part about 40 man raids at level 70? like 6 fucking fire elemental totems. >.>
02:57.15xinNightHawkTheSane: lol
02:57.30xinhow many feltards and huntard pets?
02:57.50xinooh. and shadowfiends
02:58.13NightHawkTheSanewe only have like 2 locks, and i dont think they're demo specced
02:58.24xin^5 to your locks then
02:58.26xindemo is dumb
02:58.41CIA-1103sid67 * r31448 10/trunk/ (4 files): Removed file/folder
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02:59.28PogoTribalWelp, I can determine that it's some freakin Ace2 add-on that's stopping my load screen.
03:00.21xinPogoTribal: time to disable them one by one :V
03:00.38PogoTribalAnd this has just started with using Standalone libraries so...
03:01.03CIA-1103sid67 * r31449 10Fubar_ChatAlertsFu/ (5 files):
03:01.03CIA-11Fubar_ChatAlertsFu: initial commit
03:01.03CIA-11- Toggles sound and text popups for incoming chat messages.
03:01.37chuckg_http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=86707335&sid=1
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03:04.10Chompersowned
03:04.46Ozzwaldhow can I check if a player has killed a specific NPC
03:05.19Ozzwaldi know i can use CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH
03:05.50Ozzwaldbut that'll double register and i only need to know if the player got the killing blow
03:08.48nymbiapretty bad funkeh.. pretty bad.
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03:08.58funkeh? :O
03:09.33nymbia;)
03:10.00Ozzwaldanyone like to give me a quick hand?
03:11.40CIA-1103ckknight * r31450 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua PitBull.lua WatchdogTags.lua): PitBull - assorted fixes
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03:17.22CIA-1103ckknight * r31451 10PitBull/Mana/Mana.lua: PitBull-Mana - bugfix to text
03:18.38CIA-1103ckknight * r31452 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - set fontstring to white on deletion
03:18.54CIA-1103nymbia * r31453 10Manufac/Manufac-frFR.lua:
03:18.54CIA-11Manufac:
03:18.54CIA-11- Update frFR, thanks Barbesak!
03:19.41CIA-1103takadi * r31454 10FuBar_ChatLockFu/FuBar_ChatLockFu.toc: FuBar_ChatLockFu: Not LOD, fixes problems with keybinding.
03:20.53nymbiaOzzwald: ask away
03:23.18Solecurrently, theres no way to check multiple items at once with oRA2 Item, correct?
03:29.09Solehai, yes no?
03:29.33Solecoz my guild leader wants to be able to check for ALL flasks and a bunch of pots in the raid's inventories to check who has what
03:29.56CIA-1103sid67 * r31455 10Fubar_ChatAlertsFu/:
03:29.56CIA-11Fubar_ChatAlertsFu:
03:29.57CIA-11- added externals
03:29.58CyrezAnybody have a screenie that shows what PitBull looks like or do I have to...start WoW? ><
03:33.35Solelook at agUF, similiar to that
03:33.48CyrezOoo...
03:34.21CyrezI'm addicted to the X-Perl look.
03:34.39CIA-1103sid67 * r31456 10/trunk/ (FuBar_ChatAlertsFu/ Fubar_ChatAlertsFu/): changed folder name
03:35.20kergothwrite an x-perl pitbull layout then :P
03:35.23SquishemHardIm addicted to being addicted
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03:37.26funkehim addicted to killin gnomes
03:37.32funkehbut i don't go around chasing nymbia
03:40.41nymbiaWHAT WAS LAST NIGHT THEN??
03:40.54nymbiaJUST A FRIENDLY GAME OF GNOME PUNTING??
03:41.26funkehyou know what it was ;)
03:41.33nymbia;)
03:41.47SquishemHardomg gnomes > all
03:42.27funkehsays the guy wiht the nam e'squish em hard'
03:42.45SquishemHardgnomes squish stuff too
03:42.50funkeh:P
03:42.55PogoTribalOk so I zeroed down my loading lockup to TabletLib
03:42.58PogoTribalWhich... sucks.
03:43.14ckknightthat's odd
03:43.24ckknightany idea what's locking up in it?
03:43.48PogoTribalNone.
03:43.58CIA-1103sid67 * r31457 10FuBar_ChatAlertsFu/: Removed file/folder
03:44.27funkehwhat i want is 2.1
03:44.37funkehthen i can find out why i get 20kbps standing idle in shatt
03:44.51funkehand blame nymbia
03:44.57funkehsince its probably pt3
03:45.11nymbia:(
03:45.22funkeh:P
03:46.16PogoTribalOk TabletLib will load up by itself.
03:46.20CIA-1103sid67 * r31458 10FuBar_ChatAlertsFu/ (. ChatAlertsFu.lua FuBar_ChatAlertsFu.toc blip.wav icon.blp):
03:46.20CIA-11FuBar_ChatAlertsFu:
03:46.20CIA-11- initial commit2
03:46.23funkehi foresee a lot of svn commit messaages 'now more efficient' after 2.1
03:46.31PogoTribalSo... now the horrible task of loading everything else one by one, I'll start with FuBar
03:46.59nymbiafunkeh: i got that shit outta the way for most of my mods already ;)
03:47.39SquishemHardbecause the library you use is extremely efficent means you are a good enoujgh coder to make efficent use of it?
03:48.12CIA-1103sid67 * r31459 10FuBar_ChatAlertsFu/:
03:48.12CIA-11FuBar_ChatAlertsFu:
03:48.12CIA-11- added externals
03:48.55nymbiaSquishemHard: pretty much
03:49.02PogoTribalWell, it's not FuBar.
03:49.13funkehnymbia: probably, but something is definately wrong, since i ain't really installed anything new, and 20bkps idle is awful
03:49.31PogoTribalIs there a list of mods that use TabletLib that I can find out somehow?
03:49.49hyperChipmunkrog blueflag-jumps me in netherstorm, does his stunny-stab-stab thing for about 30s.  when he finishes, i have like 70% hp still, so i turn around and freeze trap him, sit down and eat...he unfreezes and comes after me again, but i'm not done eating, so i clip him and wyvsting...I finish, line him up, and he runs away and jumps off the edge of the world...
03:50.08hyperChipmunkis that not the most deranged thing ever?
03:50.28hyperChipmunki can never understand rogues
03:51.06Chompershe would rather pay gold for durability loss than die a pvp death?
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03:51.25hyperChipmunkbut why?
03:51.26ilifinwhat I don't get hyperChipmunk
03:51.30hyperChipmunkHE jumped ME
03:51.43ilifinis how he got only 30% of your hp
03:51.48hyperChipmunkheh
03:51.54ilifinI chomp off a hunter's hp completely in 20s
03:51.54NightHawkTheSaneseriously
03:52.15hyperChipmunkbecause i have 13khp without buffs, and more dodge than you can possibly imagine
03:52.30ilifintry a hunter with 320 resilience and 14k hp
03:52.41ilifindead in 30 seconds, combat daggers, all CDs used
03:53.03PogoTribalOk lemme try an older revision of TabletLib
03:53.12CyrezPogoTribal: Cartographer, Bartender3, ArcHUD2, oRA2, and PitBull for starters all use TabletLib.
03:53.26hyperChipmunkwell i saw him coming, so i also got deterrence off
03:53.30nymbiafunkeh: yeah that's messed up.  play the 'disable shit and narrow it down' game?
03:53.34PogoTribalI've tried Cart and FuBar, I'll try BT3
03:53.44hyperChipmunkwhich basically leaves me with 95% avoidance
03:53.59nymbiai'm gettin 0.3kbps right now so it's not anything i use ^^
03:54.02Chompersshould my interface need 70mib, or is something wrong?
03:54.10Chompersit just seems a little high
03:54.14funkehnymbia: i cba :s was hoping for 2.1 before i cracked and did it
03:54.15hyperChipmunkbut that's not the point...you're a rog...you blueflag someone...you obviously want a fight, no?
03:54.22ilifinofc
03:54.26ilifinbut jumping off the world..
03:54.28ilifinI don't get it
03:54.34ilifinwhere in netherstorm were you btw
03:54.43nymbiafunkeh: since they're pushing 2.0.12 to test i think 2.1's still at least a month off :(
03:54.48ilifinthere are a few spots you land on a shelf "below" the world
03:54.51hyperChipmunkacross the bridge north of A51
03:55.06funkeh>>
03:55.27funkehthen thing is nymbia even if i found out, the chances are no one will know whats wrong wiht the mob/library responsible
03:55.37funkehmod/*
03:55.50nymbiawe can hit it with a stick til it works, though
03:55.53nymbia:)
03:55.57funkeh:p
03:55.58hyperChipmunklol
03:56.07hyperChipmunkDebug Tool Alpha?
03:56.10PogoTribalIt's not BT3.
03:56.14nymbiaindeed
03:57.13funkehis there notes for .12 somewhere
03:57.40funkehi guess .11 is another taiwan only patch
03:58.18PogoTribalI'm really trying to help here. Is there any way to get a list of what uses TabletLib?
04:00.06funkeh# Using the customer support "Auto-Unstuck" will now trigger the one-hour cooldown on the player's hearthstone.
04:00.08funkehNOOOOO
04:00.34NightHawkTheSanei said it before, but astral recall ftw.
04:00.48funkehVarious localization fixes have been applied.
04:00.54funkehincoming broken babble
04:01.00CyrezMost if not all FuBar plugins use TabletLib.
04:01.16funkehhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
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04:02.42CyrezWait, I think Blizzard b0rk3d that link, lol.
04:04.57PogoTribalGetting closer.
04:05.07funkehi don't see anything to make players actually play on the ptr
04:05.57cybane|workPTR is an option
04:06.23PogoTribalSweet, it's down to Bananabar, Buffalo, and Inflight
04:06.49cybane|workeh?
04:08.00PogoTribalBananabar
04:08.18PogoTribalBananabar is locking up the game with TabletLib when using Standalone libraries.
04:08.26PogoTribalI'm done.
04:08.40PogoTribalFucking mod hasn't been updated in forever and barely works anyways.
04:08.44funkehnymbia, just came out of AB, standing in shatt at 115kbps
04:08.57nymbiafunkeh: ouch
04:09.12funkehnow its back down to 20 after 30 or so seconds
04:09.14SquishemHardwhat a horrible patch
04:09.33funkeh0.2 woohoo
04:09.39nymbiai'm up to 0.8 from messing with pitbull settings ;)
04:09.46PogoTribalAnyone know a good mod to handle raid icon application?
04:10.03NightHawkTheSaneI like keybindings myself
04:10.09funkehkeybindings ftw
04:10.36funkeheither that or make a bar in your barmod or whatever with macros to set the raid icons you can click
04:11.06PogoTribalMeh, I can't set the macro icons to raid icons though.
04:11.18cybane|workI was amazed that I got over 40 fps in Org with my GeForce FX 5600
04:11.22funkehyou can
04:12.13funkehill be damned if i can remember it though
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04:13.02NightHawkTheSaneIf you have the icons as .tga files in your Interface/Icons/ folder, you can make macros having those icons
04:13.13funkehim talking about raids
04:13.21funkehyou can make a macro to set the raid icons
04:13.49funkehsomething like /script ("raidicon", "1") comptely wrong but something like that
04:13.55funkehits 1-8 for the shapes
04:13.56NightHawkTheSanefunkeh: yes, and pogo was saying that raid icons arnt available for macro icons by default
04:14.09funkehoh
04:17.07pastamancer<PROTECTED>
04:17.14NightHawkTheSanelol
04:18.28PogoTribalWell, I could use BananaBar's icon files.
04:18.36PogoTribalI just don't know how to actually utilize them.
04:26.03CIA-1103funkydude * r31460 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (6 files in 6 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Loot/Item update
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04:27.01PogoTribalCopying the Cartographer files in WTF SavedVariables didn't transfer my herb notes
04:27.54funkehits not saved there
04:28.01funkehits saved in cartographer_herbalism
04:32.28PogoTribalApparently it's not.
04:33.50funkehmine reside at C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\<ACC>\SavedVariables\Cartographer_Herbalism.lua
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04:35.45PogoTribalCan't be it, I already transferred that.
04:38.26PogoTribalActually what the fuck, I don't have that file.
04:38.54PogoTribalAnd this is a complete backup of my WTF directory before I started all this shit.
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04:39.34funkehblame nymbia
04:39.35mofolohello.  just a quick question; anyone here know anything about manufac?
04:39.54mofoloi'd like to know where it gets its prices for the 'market value' fields.
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04:42.35nymbiafunkeh: true.
04:42.49nymbiamofolo: auctioneer or KCI or KCI2 auction data
04:44.02mofolook, so every time I scan, it should update fine?  no need for me to restart or anything like that?
04:44.07mofolobtw; I love manufac <3
04:47.02nymbiamofolo: it uses the same estimate that's used for the tooltips, the average buyout one i think.  should always update just fine.
04:47.06nymbiaand thanks :)
04:47.47mofolothanks :)
04:50.57ckknightwoo: Improved memory usage and stability under Mac OS X 10.4.9 using multi-threaded OpenGL
05:06.09trh_how can using multi-threaded stuff instead of single-threaded stuff improve stability?
05:06.18trh_usually multi-threaded environments are alot more complex
05:07.02nymbiathey improved the stability of the multithreading, they didnt switch to multithreading
05:07.06trh_oh
05:07.07pastamancerI don't think that's a cause/effect thing
05:07.16trh_english 1: trh_: 0
05:07.38trh_gotta get some sleep so english doesn't beat me again.. gnite
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05:50.34CIA-1103next96 * r31461 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_koKR.lua:
05:50.35CIA-11Talented_Data :
05:50.35CIA-11- Update locale koKR
05:51.07CIA-1103next96 * r31462 10Talented/locale-koKR.lua:
05:51.07CIA-11Talented :
05:51.07CIA-11- Update locale koKR
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05:59.12funkehlater
06:04.32Solewhere would I find info on how to create a multi-level dropdown using the blizz dropdown class?
06:06.06Soleanyone?
06:06.48Sole~seen ckknight
06:07.10purlckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge #norganna #wowace. Has said a total of 412 messages. Is idling for 1h 16m 13s, last said: 'woo: Improved memory usage and stability under Mac OS X 10.4.9 using multi-threaded OpenGL'.
06:07.10ckknightping me before doing that.
06:07.10ckknightI'll respond, you know.
06:07.24Solesorry
06:07.28ckknightbut to answer your question, Blizzard's dropdowns can suck my balls.
06:07.33Soleindeed
06:07.44Solethought they would be nice and simple =\
06:07.51ckknightI'd say hairy balls, but shaving makes one's penis look bigger
06:07.52ckknightuse Dewdrop
06:08.33Solebleh 1 hour of my life wated =\
06:08.46Soles/wated/wasted/
06:09.00CIA-1103nymbia * r31463 10Stitch-1.1/Stitch-1.1/Stitch-1.1.lua:
06:09.00CIA-11Stitch-1.1:
06:09.00CIA-11- Remove a couple old vars that're globally polluting.
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06:15.08kenlyricheh, best error message I've seen in a while, " attempt to concatenate local 'happiness' (a nil value)"
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06:16.30Solelol
06:42.56Soleok Im a sad panda
06:43.18SoleI try to use Interface\\Icons\\Trade_Alchemy as a texture for a 32x32 button but it doesnt wanna appear
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06:49.21Mikmayesh, 4h of sleep
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07:05.57CIA-1103nymbia * r31464 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.lua:
07:05.57CIA-11PitBull_EstimatedHeals:
07:05.57CIA-11- "Ignore Unit" -> "Ignore Unit(s)" in the menu, to make sense in the context of group menus.
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07:15.40cncfanaticsyo ppl !
07:16.30ckknight"yo"
07:17.00Gngskho ho !
07:17.50cncfanaticslol, party !
07:17.53cncfanaticsexams done :)
07:18.00Gngsknice
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07:32.16ckknighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQPPyVx21Bc
07:32.19ckknightlol
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07:55.11mjcbeen wiping on moroes for four hours
07:55.13mjcany suggestions
07:55.30nymbiamjc: what's killing you?
07:55.44mjcmobs running around it looks like
07:55.48mjcgot two that can dispel shackle
07:55.59nymbiaouch
07:56.10nymbiaunload hardcore on one of those to start
07:56.19nymbiathe squishy one
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08:00.31nymbiackknight_: i was just doing some options for the cast bar, do we want to bother with localization for those yet?  just stick it at the top of the module, or do you have a different plan?
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08:04.15ckknight_nymbia: do the fake L thing
08:04.17ckknight_or just don't bother
08:04.19ckknight_I'm gonna localize the whole thing in one go
08:04.31nymbiaok
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08:08.33vhaarrmjc: My suggestion would be to get some priests with previous raiding experience.
08:09.39vhaarrmjc: I'm not sure about our kill order, but I think we do the from left to right, almost.
08:09.43mjcthey both have.
08:09.50mjcand that's what we're doing
08:10.00vhaarrmjc: They have Naxx experience?
08:10.14mjcaq40
08:10.20vhaarrthat's not good enough
08:10.24mjcbut both have killed curator
08:10.28mjcpreviously :P
08:10.36vhaarrthey need to lern2shackle
08:10.41vhaarrand only naxx does that
08:12.24mjcthey seem to be doing a decent job of it, but it looks like one dispells the other while they're reshackling
08:13.03vhaarryeah, then they're not doing a decent job at it :)
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08:44.03CIA-1103nymbia * r31465 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua:
08:44.03CIA-11PitBull_CastBar:
08:44.03CIA-11- Add some options.
08:44.12Fisker-so nymbia
08:44.17Mikmanoobia
08:44.17Fisker-i want to raep j00
08:44.24nymbia~flee
08:44.27purlACTION runs away screaming
08:45.09nymbiaodang
08:45.31Mikmayou can run, but you can't hide
08:45.46Fisker-I am not amused
08:46.07Mikmawhy? because i was able to take nymbia chocolateside virginity?
08:48.19Mikmaok one question
08:48.28Mikmawho plays the bar-music in wow taverns
08:48.32Mikmai don't see the band around
08:49.13Fisker-isn't it homemade?
08:49.15Fisker-doh
08:49.32mofoloNymbia are you here?
08:49.46Mikmaso the player plays the music where ever (s)he goes
08:49.47nymbiasup mofolo
08:49.51Fisker-hahhahaha
08:50.13Fisker-the 8GB iPhone will cost FIVE HOUNDRED AND NINETYNINE US DOLLARS with a contract
08:50.14mofoloanother question about Manufac; I just learnt two new alchemy recipes (greater shadow prot potion) and Lesser stoneshield
08:50.15Fisker-lolololol
08:50.23mofoloand they aren't showing in the list
08:50.30mofolodo i need to relog for them to appear?
08:50.37mofoloor is there any way to force them to show?
08:50.37Fisker-try going into your spellbook and opening alchemy and closing it agian
08:51.01mofolonope
08:51.03mofolodidn't work
08:51.12nymbiamofolo: just click your alchemy button, they should show up
08:51.15Fisker-then i don't know :(
08:51.24mofolommm nym, they aren't showing
08:51.46MikmaPitBull needs an option now to hide the default CastBar
08:52.09Fisker-pitbull needs moar options
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08:52.22Mikmawell it's cool now
08:52.35nymbiamofolo: hmm.. odd.  try reloading.
08:53.52Fisker-What was that addon cladhaire had made for questing and stuff?
08:54.23mofolook, a game exit showed them
08:54.33nymbiaFisker-: lightheader
08:54.46nymbias/er/ed/
08:54.48mofolothey are in there now, its weird, because i clicked reset, then it said it needed a refresh, so i clicked that but they still didnt show up
08:54.55Fisker-:(
08:55.02mofolobut exiting fixed it
08:55.08nymbiapurl, you suck
08:55.22purlno, *you* suck!
08:55.22Fisked-NO U!
08:55.33nymbialol
08:55.43Fisker-i lol'd atleast
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09:01.11Fisker-rawr nymbia
09:01.21Fisker-what will pt3bar say to 2x config files?
09:01.36nymbiahuh?
09:02.14Fisker-Well you suggest copying over to otherconfig.lua
09:02.24Fisker-what when i updated it will try to load both?
09:02.32Fisker-and create 2 bars?
09:03.08nymbiait'll only load one of em.  first it tries otherconfig.lua, if that doesnt exist it tries config.lua
09:03.17Fisker-alright :o
09:04.38[Ammo]morning
09:04.52nymbiamornin [Ammo]
09:04.57[Ammo]oh nymbia added options to thec astbars :)
09:04.58[Ammo]niceness
09:05.06nymbia:)
09:05.08[Ammo]I just haxored em in
09:05.20Fisker-http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/alverbo/poor_gm.jpg <-wtf /b/?
09:05.39[Ammo]are they in the proper layout  yet? and below the other bars?
09:06.18nymbiai didnt do reverse and deficit type bars, dont think we need those in castbars... so it was basically just color stuff then disabling for certain groups
09:06.34nymbianah, they arent in the layout yet :(
09:07.30[Ammo]ah ok
09:07.34[Ammo]I guess I'll have to do that
09:07.51Mikma"you have 4573 gold"
09:09.13pastamancerMikma: send some to me! :)
09:09.38Mikmapastamancer: liek i haev that mcuh!
09:09.55Mikmapastamancer: i was talking about fister's link
09:09.55vhaarrFisker-: haha
09:10.16Fisker-obviously a /b/tard :P
09:10.22Fisker-Noone else would post banhammer :P
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09:14.47CIA-1103nymbia * r31466 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua:
09:14.47CIA-11PitBull_CastBar:
09:14.47CIA-11- typo
09:19.21ckknightlol, Fisker-
09:20.56ckknightI AM SPARTA!
09:22.23Fisker-me too
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09:25.09mofoloack, is there anyway to get my crafting panels open if im using Manufac
09:25.30mofoloif i go into my spellbook and click the crafting icon for whatever profession, it just shows the manufac drop down menu
09:25.40mofolobut i need to open my enchant panel apparently to get EnchanctList to do a scan
09:27.29nymbiamofolo: it should scan from just that click.. but if it doesnt, /manufac standby
09:27.39mofolok
09:30.30DynomInterface\Addons\Pitbull\Portrait\Portrait.lua:96 (nil on portrait)
09:31.24CIA-1103nymbia * r31467 10Stitch-1.1/Stitch-1.1/Stitch-1.1.lua:
09:31.24CIA-11Stitch-1.1:
09:31.24CIA-11- Clear metatable cache of a profession's data when that profession is scanned. *Should* resolve not showing skillup's impact on difficulty until a reloadui.
09:32.11DynomI'm also not seeing target, target of target and group-frames atm btw
09:32.20Dynomusing r31466
09:32.30nymbiaDynom: probably because of that error.
09:32.42Dynomyeah I kinda thought that too
09:32.49nymbiaDynom: what portrait style do you use?
09:33.01DynomRight 3d
09:33.15DynomI'll try left and 2d
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09:33.56ZealotOnAStickPl. yjay
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09:34.07ZealotOnAStickHrm.  Guess I was off on the keys.  
09:34.15ZealotOnAStickOk, that was a funny-ass pic.
09:34.18Dynomnymbia: left 2d generates the same
09:34.26nymbialol
09:34.33Dynomafter a /console reloadui, should that be sufficient ?
09:35.19ZealotOnAStickzomg, new Bleach OP
09:35.34nymbiaDynom: yeah.  do /dump PitBull:GetModule("Portrait").db.profile.target.style
09:35.49Dynomsays '3D'
09:36.07Dynombut I see 2d
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09:36.36nymbiahmm.. something's funny there.
09:37.07Dynom*nocks on his chest* me squash bugs
09:37.10Solehey guys, how can I reference the clicked dewdrop item in an 'execute' type
09:37.13ZealotOnAStickGod this inspires me.
09:37.36Solebecause I've gotta do this   self:PerformItemCheck(name of clicked dewdrop item)
09:37.37ZealotOnAStickInspires me to wish I didn't hate programming so much, so I could stand it long enough to really learn enough lua to write some kick-ass mod just to name it Bleach.
09:37.57Soleprogramming is fun :P
09:38.04ZealotOnAStickTo each his own.
09:38.11Soleits all bout challenging the mind to overcome a problem
09:38.37ZealotOnAStickI'm better at writing prose than code.
09:38.42nymbiaSole: is the item the parent of that table?
09:38.47Fisker-I don't have any target frames :(
09:38.54Dynomnymbia: can I set values with that same command btw ?
09:39.02nymbiaDynom: sure
09:39.17Dynom./dump PitBull:GetModule("Portrait").db.profile.target.style=2d
09:39.17Dynom?
09:39.19Fisker-btw needs moar barfader nymbia
09:39.24Solenymbia: uhm
09:39.36Dynomor .value("2d");
09:40.08Dynomwait, /dump doesn't make sense. /set ?
09:40.26Solenymbia: I'll show you the code
09:40.29nymbiaDynom: /run PitBull:GetModule("Portrait").db.profile.target.style="2D"
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09:40.35Dynomnymbia: 10x
09:40.39Solehttp://ace.pastey.net/9847
09:40.44Fisker-oh and btw nymbia you have to somehow make it so that the target estimatedheals don't overlap the icon
09:40.46Fisker-or i'll qq
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09:41.07nymbiaFisker-: what icon
09:41.37Dynomnymbia: castbar is also b0rken btw
09:41.47Dynomoh no it's not
09:41.48Dynomhuh
09:41.59Dynomchanneling is broken, cast is still working
09:42.10Fisker-nymbia the portrait
09:42.20Fisker-you can barely see the estimated heals bar for it
09:42.26Dynomchanneling bar starts for a split second, then it's gone
09:42.51Solenymbia: can you see what Im tryin?
09:43.15Mikmanymbia: he's trying to hit you
09:43.17Dynomlol; are we stresstesting Nymbia? :D
09:43.37nymbiaSole: yeah.  how bout http://ace.pastey.net/9849-3j3u:9847-3ico
09:44.00nymbiaFisker-: oh does it go behind?
09:44.17Solenymbia: yeh I was thinking that also, just wanted to ask because I like to talk :P
09:44.22Fisker-just looks crappy in any case
09:44.42nymbiaSole: yeah it'll work, that closure gets to keep those locals :)
09:44.47Dynomhmm, now the channel bar keeps working
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09:45.02nymbiaFisker-: make a new layout where it's pretty then ;)
09:46.17Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/youseethekidstheylistentotherapmusicwhichgivesthemabraindamageahahahah.jpg
09:46.32Fisker-you could put the portrait on the left side!
09:46.51Fisker-Or you could calculate it to smartly bypass the portrait
09:47.16nymbiabypass? huh?
09:47.33Fisker-i.e. not show the bar there
09:47.36Fisker-but instead show it next to it
09:48.06nymbiawouldnt that defeat the point since its supposed to be attached to the health bar?
09:48.11CIA-1103ammo * r31468 10PitBull/ (CastBar/CastBar.lua Portrait/Portrait.lua):
09:48.11CIA-11PitBull:
09:48.11CIA-11- Optionally enable portraits on targettarget since I need that.
09:48.11CIA-11- position the castbar slightly better, and zoom the icon.
09:48.24ravagernlman, nihilum raids from 5 to 5 :o
09:49.05Fisker-I don't mean just put it next to the portrait
09:49.32Fisker-i mean "oh it's gonna overheal 1000 hp but the heal is like for 3000hp, so i show the 2000hp next to the health bar and the 1000 to the right from the portrait"
09:49.47[Ammo]ah I see the channeling bug :p
09:49.49[Ammo]will fix
09:49.57Dynom[Ammo]: k; lemme know when I can try a new version
09:50.10echoswill someone please put a filelist.wau in the babble-2.2 folder
09:50.11[Ammo]just watch the commit messages
09:50.29Mikma[Ammo]: heh. "i coded it in since i need it."
09:50.38nymbiaFisker-: but that hurts my head :(
09:50.43Fisker-Yes
09:50.47Fisker-And doesn't hurt mine :)
09:51.24[Ammo]Mikma: it's how it works :)
09:51.42Mikma[Ammo]: well let's imagine you need a separated tooltip-addon. now go code.
09:51.46Dynomzoom the icon is neat btw. wanted to request that feature
09:51.52Mikma[Ammo]: (KCItems tooltip style)
09:52.01DynomI'm out of the portrait with my head when it does it's 2nd pose
09:52.47MikmaDynom: that's a common "bug" 3D portraits have
09:52.57Dynomyeah I know, but zooming fixes that
09:53.26[Ammo]someone has been messing with my variable names
09:53.26[Ammo]grrr
09:53.35Dynom:D
09:53.49[Ammo]but that was not the problem
09:53.50[Ammo]hrmf
09:54.06nymbia[Ammo]: i didnt do it.... did i? >.>
09:54.07Dynomdownside of versioning
09:54.12[Ammo]you broke the fading out of the bars
09:54.14[Ammo]somehow
09:54.22nymbiahrm
09:54.25[Ammo]trying to see what you changed
09:54.30[Ammo]you changed some var names though
09:54.32nymbiawell check out the diff for my commit i guess
09:54.36Dynomand thats the upside of versioning :P
09:54.38[Ammo]fadeOut -> fadeout :p
09:54.43[Ammo]I'm checking
09:56.13Dynomare lua varnames case sensitive ?
09:56.25nymbiayeah
09:57.07Dynomah
09:57.33Solenymbia: alright its working, cept it required a bit of tweaking :P
09:57.52nymbiaSole: nice :D
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09:58.35Mikmais it just me, or are the frames too small on width by default?
09:58.39Mikma(PitBull)
09:58.43Dynomyeah they are
09:58.46[Ammo]there is a width slider
09:58.47[Ammo]gogogo
09:58.53Dynomput them on 225
09:58.56Mikma[Ammo]: i know :)
09:59.01Fisker-where the hood at?
09:59.04Dynomand the height a bit smaller; looks excellent now
09:59.15Mikmaanother thing. Does width calculate the portrait in?
10:01.13[Ammo]yeah
10:01.20[Ammo]portrait is inside the wdith
10:01.38Mikmawhy?
10:01.44[Ammo]it is
10:01.56Dynombecause height is also ? :P
10:02.06Mikmawouldn't it be logical if the width would only be setting the bar width
10:02.14[Ammo]no
10:02.18[Ammo]it sets the whole frame with
10:02.19Dynomwell it's the width of the frame
10:02.31Dynomnot the width of the bars of the frame
10:02.36Dynomso this makes more sense imo
10:02.38Mikma[Ammo]: well, hide and enable the portrait to see what i mean
10:03.21[Ammo]that's rpobably a bug in the layouting
10:03.40Mikmawell agUF had the same
10:03.50Mikmaand it's because the portrait is calculated in the width
10:04.27nymbiawhy's that a problem?
10:04.33Mikmaif you use the bar only as the width, then the bar won't change at all even if you enable and disable the portrait
10:04.52[Ammo]it should be no problem
10:04.56Mikmanymbia: it's yucky :(
10:05.01[Ammo]it's just done wrong atm
10:05.02[Ammo]now shoo
10:05.11CIA-1103ammo * r31469 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull: fix castbar fading.
10:05.13Dynomunless you change portrait [show|hide] a lot it's not a problem imo
10:05.15nymbiaMikma: if the portrait's not part of the frame, it wont be clickable as part of it
10:05.20Mikma[Ammo]: well it's like that, and that's the way it is. huh!
10:05.35[Ammo]there is some logic missing when enabling disbaling
10:05.37[Ammo]that's all
10:05.39nymbia[Ammo]: did i break it?  i didnt think i had messed with that stuff at all
10:05.48[Ammo]ckknight broke it
10:05.51[Ammo]with his 'style fixes'
10:05.54ckknightNO U
10:05.59Dynomonly 'fix' that could be applied is to add the width of the portrait to the x-offset or substract the total width
10:06.01nymbialol
10:06.08Mikmanymbia: GetWidth(portrait) - GetWidth(Bar) = dingding!
10:06.18Mikmawell, the other way aroudn but anyway
10:06.44[Ammo]you broke it ckk
10:06.50[Ammo]you changed stopTime -> endTime
10:06.54ckknightoh
10:06.56ckknightokay
10:06.57ckknightmy bad
10:07.00ckknightchange it back
10:07.02[Ammo]I did
10:07.04[Ammo]it's fixed already
10:07.10Dynomkk, I'll try
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10:07.33Mikmai'm pretty sure this "issue" i'm whining and bitching about does not mean anything to others than me :D
10:07.48[Ammo]the layout.lua is going to be such a bloody mess if I want to add the castbar in properly
10:07.51[Ammo]meh
10:07.58nymbiaMikma: whiner ;p
10:08.04Mikmanymbia: exactly :)
10:08.12nymbialol
10:08.14nymbia<3
10:08.15Mikmathat's what i am, ask anyone
10:08.28nymbia~mikma
10:08.39purl[mikma] an agitator but i love him anyway
10:08.54Mikma~emulate mikma
10:08.56purlWiebbe is an assclown.
10:09.11nymbia~literal mikma
10:09.12purl"mikma" is "an agitator but i love him anyway"
10:09.23Mikmai'm SO into the second tooltip that it almost blows my mind <3
10:09.43nymbiapurl: no, "mikma" is "an agitator but i love him anyway.  also a whiner."
10:09.44purlnymbia: what are you talking about?
10:09.44DynomPortrait issue is still there btw; In..\Addons\Pitbull\Portrait\Portrait.lua:99 (nil on portrait)
10:09.56Mikmaass and fail
10:11.14nymbia:(
10:11.14nymbiaDynom: hit it with a stick.  (try clearing your savedvariables too)
10:11.14Mikmai like the idea of keeping the default-tooltips default and using second tooltip under it to show all the mendeleev-stuff and itemprices and such
10:11.14Dynomnymbia: ack
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10:11.42ZealotOnAStickno purl, mikma is an agitator but i love him anyway.  also a whiner.
10:11.51ckknightit's purl no
10:11.53Mikmaass and fail
10:12.00ckknightpurl no mikma is an agitator but i love him anyway.  also a whiner.
10:12.01purlckknight: okay
10:12.07Mikmathat's not right
10:12.11Mikma"also a whiner from hell"
10:12.12ckknight~mikma
10:12.13purl[mikma] an agitator but i love him anyway.  also a whiner.
10:12.19nymbiaDynom: fine ;)  /run PitBullDB.namespaces.Portrait = nil
10:12.26Mikmaoh that's also incorrect
10:12.39Mikma"also a whiner from hell and always manages to break stuff"
10:12.47Dynomnymbia: no erorr so far
10:13.11Dynombut my party members are nice question marks
10:13.26Mikmahttp://www.tuubi.net/juhasweb/viru_valge_v%E4gev.JPG
10:13.32nymbiaDynom: probably some funky setting that snuck its way into your savedvars in an older version
10:13.42nymbiaDynom: yeah they are if they arent in range
10:13.53Dynomoh ok; thats only on 3D ?
10:14.18nymbia2d as well i think
10:14.31ZealotOnAStickthat looks painful.
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10:16.37nymbiaindeed
10:16.41evldoes Lua have something similar to the continur statement?
10:16.45evlcontinue*
10:17.10evlckknight: working on a small patch for Cart_Mining now, so it will always leave the highest valued node and delete the res
10:17.36ckknightk
10:17.42ckknightno, no continue in lua
10:17.49evljust leave an empty block then
10:19.28ZealotOnAStickevl: that'll be nigh pointless for outland, then . . . you'll want to code it to exclude khorium.
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10:20.52evlwhy?
10:21.03evlif there's a chance you can find khorium it should show khorium?
10:21.21Mikma[Ammo]: the castbar is missplaced like 4-5 pixels to the left
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10:21.26evlan if there's a chance to find a rich node it should show the rich node, optimistic coding :)
10:21.28ZealotOnAStickThat's most of the mineral notes in outland.
10:22.11ZealotOnAStickand it makes it sorta pointless if I've got a map that shows just nearly all Khorium . . . when I want, say, specifically fel iron for some crafting item or for the chance of motes of fire.
10:22.29evlso what's the alternative?
10:22.34evli have rich/normal nodes all over the place
10:22.37CIA-1103solor * r31470 10Talented/locale-koKR.lua: Talented: locale-koKR.lua add comma (hate errors on load)
10:22.51ZealotOnAStickAt a minimum, make this functionality an option.
10:22.52evlmaybe I should just include a check for Rich <node being added>
10:23.09evlthere wouldn't be anything wrong with listing rich and non-rich as just rich?
10:23.29ZealotOnAStickThat's a sort of behaviour that shouldn't be forced on people I think.  
10:23.46ZealotOnAStickIt would detract from the usefulness of it for me.
10:23.48evldo you frequently hunt for non-rich nodes? :P
10:24.01ZealotOnAStickYes, actually.
10:24.10evlNow this I'd like to her, why?
10:24.11evlhear*
10:24.19ZealotOnAStickFelsteel and motes of fire mainly.
10:24.35evlI'm not talking about Khorium here
10:24.40evlOnly adamantite/thorium
10:25.26ZealotOnAStickPersonally, if a spot can be both fel iron and adamantite, I want to know that . . .  I'd conversely be annoyed if something said just rich adamantite and I found Fel Iron.
10:25.56evlcan a node be both?
10:26.04cybane|workI wish rather than hunt for nodes you could setup mines that would be attacked by NPCs or Players
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10:26.22ZealotOnAStickspecific spawn points for mineral nodes can have both types spawn on them.
10:26.30evlYes, I just noticed
10:26.41ZealotOnAStickThere's at least a few in Blade's Edge like that I know of offhand.
10:26.53evlyes, i found a few at burning blade now too
10:27.03Mikmackknight: so, why is there a 0 at the center of Target's Manabar? :D
10:27.12evlI would much rather like if each icon could have a list of nodes it could spawn
10:27.14ckknightMikma: you're a rogue
10:27.26evlRight now I just have hundreds of nodes with 2-3 possible spawn types on them
10:27.28ckknightcombopoints
10:27.43Mikmackknight: yeah, but it overlaps all the texts. or is it just a test to see it's working?
10:27.56ckknightfix the layout if you want
10:28.11evlckknight: can one move text outside the frame? I know me and most rogues like having combopoints "large and incharge", sort of like 24pt and beside the frame
10:28.28ckknightyou can
10:28.33ckknightthere's nothing stopping you
10:28.42evlgood, I like being unstoppable
10:29.01Mikmaevl: now you just need someone (not me) which will bend over for you
10:29.17evlZealotOnAStick: Any suggestions? Perhaps just include a "filter out lower-value nodes"
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10:29.50ZealotOnASticklike I said, make this stuff optional.
10:34.41mjcheh.
10:34.44mjcI'm dumb
10:34.47mjchow do I delete a frame :p
10:35.20nymbiayou dont
10:35.48nymbiaonce you make 'em, they're there for the whole session
10:36.05mjclame.
10:36.06Grollhmm prat is borked hmm
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10:38.07ckknightmjc: recycle!
10:38.30Silviu-ckknight Pitbull looks awsome :)
10:38.37ckknight:-)
10:38.49Silviu-Just redownleded now
10:39.07Silviu-redownloaded*
10:39.39mjcckknight: it tried to register portrait twice earleir
10:39.42mjcearlier
10:39.55Silviu-Some options for placement of buffs/debuffs status and is done :)
10:39.58Silviu-No ? ;)
10:40.02ckknightare you talking about in PitBull?
10:40.06ckknightuse delFrame and newFrame
10:40.08Grollmeh and ofcourse the library for prat dont exist standalone :/
10:40.19ckknightSilviu-: no
10:41.09Silviu-Anyway till now they look super :)
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10:43.47CIA-1103ammo * r31471 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua:
10:43.47CIA-11PitBull: castbar position fix
10:43.47CIA-11~slap Mikma
10:43.55purlACTION slaps Mikma, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
10:44.13knarf-haha ammo
10:44.14knarf-:P
10:44.41CIA-1103ckknight * r31472 10PitBull/HideBlizzard/HideBlizzard.lua: PitBull-HideBlizzard - add options, hide castbar by default as well.
10:44.49Punkie```Ammo take me through SM!
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10:50.02[Ammo]Punkie`: first I have to do some shopping
10:50.04[Ammo]then I'll do it
10:50.11[Ammo]bbl
10:50.15nymbiackknight: mind if i add a couple watchdog tags?
10:50.39ckknightgo ahead
10:50.42CIA-1103ckknight * r31473 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull-Portrait - allow menu on all frames. don't show on targettargettarget by default.
10:50.49ckknightjust don't duplicate anything, really.
10:50.57nymbiasure
10:50.57ckknightthough I'm actually not against aliasing.
10:51.24ckknightbut like all the nice [ag*] stuff has yet to be stolen from agUF
10:52.02nymbiathey're shorter versions of cur/max hp/mana that squish 12500 to 12.5k
10:52.15ckknightsounds good to me
10:52.18vhaarrnymbia: I'd like the Smart style copied from agUF.
10:52.44nymbialemme look how it's implemented there
10:54.04ckknightcomplex.
10:54.13ckknightI didn't want to steal it due to said complexity
10:55.49ckknightI think the only major thing left is grouping...
10:55.58knarf-ckknight got your icon made? :P
10:55.59ckknightwhich is complex wrt raid grouping
10:56.06ckknightnot even sure where to start with that
10:56.08ckknightyea, knarf-
10:56.28knarf-hmm i'd like not to have raid stuff in pitbull :P
10:57.14ckknighttoo bad
10:57.15Fisker-How i love improper documentation
10:57.16ckknightit's already there.
10:57.42knarf-possible to disable it? :)
10:57.47ckknightof course.
10:57.55knarf-\o/
10:58.27nymbiahrm.. these are identical to the ones i've got, cept they're confusing... oh and i break down the large numbers slightly differently it looks like
10:58.34ckknightnow why would you not want it in?
10:58.41ckknightyou should be wanting it to be the best possible
10:58.49knarf-I like grid :P
10:59.06ckknightI'll conquer grid yet.
10:59.30knarf-if you can make the same layout and functions with pitbull as grid has i'll throw grid away :P
10:59.51ckknightwe're a ways off from that :-P
11:00.11knarf-btw, can you make a layout for when solo, party, raid ?
11:00.23knarf-so it changes depending what your in?
11:00.38ckknightnot yet
11:00.51knarf-just thought it would be nice to have the option :)
11:00.58ckknightI like that idea, though
11:00.58Fisker-Anyone know someway to get a dual-view for files and with diff colouring?
11:01.10Fisker-preferably a plugin for notepad++
11:01.15Fisker-or a feature if it's built-in :P
11:02.15Fisker-I'm trying to put in itemstats for EQDKP, but it's built for 1.3.1 and since i don't want the vulnerabillities copied with me, i'm comparing them file by file :&
11:02.25Fisker-Found out there's some stuff he didn't comment out as being modified
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11:09.48ckknightPitBull-r31472\CastBar\CastBar.lua:89: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'stopTime' (a nil value)
11:09.55ckknight[Ammo]: ^---
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11:12.11CIA-1103ckknight * r31474 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull-CastBar - crude fix, may not be the best, but should work.
11:13.27Soleckknight: looks like youre enjoying the PitBull project
11:13.43Fisker-:z
11:13.46ckknightseems to be going well
11:13.48Fisker-hope i didn't forget anything
11:13.48Fisker-:o
11:14.18Fisker-In any case i dislike eqdkp :o
11:14.20CIA-1103nymbia * r31475 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua:
11:14.20CIA-11PitBull:
11:14.20CIA-11- Add Watchdog Tags for curhpshort, maxhpshort, curmanashort, and maxmanashort; these convert values greater than 10,000 to a shorter representation.
11:14.20CIA-11- 10,000 -> 10.0k
11:14.20CIA-11- 100,000 -> 100k
11:14.22CIA-11- 1,000,000 -> 1.00m
11:14.23Fisker-or even more itemstats :o
11:14.24CIA-11- 10,000,000 -> 10.0m
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11:15.39nymbiavhaarr: its not quite how ag does it, but will that work for you?
11:16.43ckknightnote: we don't have to copy ag exactly, I just find it a nice reference point
11:18.31nymbiayeah, vhaarr said he wanted that text the same style ;)  the code in ag for that stuff is rather disgusting
11:19.10vhaarrno, not really
11:19.25vhaarrI want the frames to display nothing when HP is full
11:19.29vhaarrand "-X" if not
11:19.34vhaarrsame for mana
11:19.41nymbiaoh that's a different one
11:19.47vhaarrthat's the Smart style
11:20.20vhaarrnot "0", not "-0", but ""
11:20.48ckknightbut that's only if they're friendly
11:20.55ckknightif they're not, then it shows absolute or something
11:21.15vhaarrindeed
11:21.21Fisker-hmm
11:21.28vhaarrthe point is that when you're looking at 10-25 raid frames, it really makes a difference in spotting who needs heals
11:21.35Fisker-i find it very discouraging that my login to my linux box doesn't work
11:21.35vhaarrckknight: if the bars have numbers at all or not
11:21.36Fisker-:o
11:22.14vhaarrckknight: and I really just care how much hp they are lacking if they are lacking any at all, not how much max they have, etc.
11:22.23vhaarrckknight: it's just an optimized style for healing, which is what I do
11:22.39ckknightI know, I heal too
11:23.02vhaarrnymbia: so, that's what I'd like :)
11:23.06vhaarrnymbia: hope it makes sense
11:23.12nymbiai can toss that in..  what do we want to show on hostiles?
11:23.29vhaarrI do not really care
11:23.34vhaarrfind something appropriate
11:24.03vhaarragUF shows the current HP %, I think
11:24.09vhaarrwhich is fine
11:24.15nymbiaok
11:24.37ckknighthave it be like [smarthp] or something
11:24.57nymbiaok
11:25.03ckknightalso, currently, there's no real way to show DEAD/GHOST/DISCONNECT
11:25.16ckknightnot sure how to go with that
11:25.26knarf-Feign Death
11:25.39vhaarrckknight: Remember that in 2.1.0, you'll have UnitIsFeignedDeath(unitId).
11:25.52vhaarrckknight: just food for thought when you're implementing DEAD/etc
11:26.02ckknightthat's easy to tack on.
11:26.10vhaarrI'm just saying
11:26.21ckknightyou say nothing!
11:27.14vhaarr:(
11:27.32ckknight:-P
11:28.29vhaarrgah, now my lvl 23 shaman got pwnd by hordes
11:28.46ckknighthorde ftw
11:29.19knarf-vhaarr you prolly deserved it
11:29.58vhaarrit's true
11:30.08vhaarrI deserve many things
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11:32.06Fisker-WINDOWS
11:32.09Fisker-Last warning :(
11:32.16Fisker-don't put trailers after ?>
11:32.17Fisker-:/
11:32.30Fisker-i love error spam
11:34.47CIA-1103nymbia * r31476 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua:
11:34.47CIA-11PitBull:
11:34.47CIA-11- Add smartmissinghp and smartmissingmana tags.
11:34.47CIA-11- These display nothing on friendlies at full hp, a deficit number on friendlies below full hp, and a percentage on hostiles.
11:35.06knarf-http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20070331.jpg
11:46.01ravagernlnymbinymbia: it would even be better to colorize it red instead of prefixing with -, but thats my personal opinion
11:46.10ravagernloops, damn keyboard :P
11:47.23nymbiahrm..  well you can set custom colors in the tag strings, so i'd rather not force the color setting
11:48.23ravagernlok but without the - then?
11:49.24nymbiahrm
11:51.06ravagernlit was a custom added tag in auf_stylist
11:54.43nymbiackknight: should smartrace and smartclass both be showing the creature family on NPCs?
11:55.17ravagernlhttp://ace.pastey.net/9853 thats the extratags.lua from auf_stylist
12:02.35CIA-1103nymbia * r31477 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
12:02.36CIA-11PT3Bar:
12:02.36CIA-11- Fix a bug that could potentially cause the wrong item to be selected.
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12:04.00ravagernlnymbia did you fix the item stack updating in pt3bar? when using an item from a stack it didnt subtract 1
12:04.25nymbiaravagernl: its a throttled update, it should update within 5 seconds.. is it not?
12:05.35ravagernlregisterbucketevent?
12:05.46nymbiayup
12:06.12ravagernlhmm, i dont use more then 1 consumable per 5 seconds, so it should update right away
12:06.20ravagernlbut it doesnt
12:06.26Fisker-nymbia damnit
12:06.35Fisker-pt3bar just made me consume 10000 flask of wisdom
12:06.40Fisker-i want my money back
12:06.43ravagernl0o
12:06.46nymbiarofl
12:07.00ravagernlyou should be really smart now then
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12:24.00CIA-1103nymbia * r31478 10PitBull/ (Class/Class.lua WatchdogTags.lua):
12:24.00CIA-11PitBull:
12:24.00CIA-11- Toss some old tags that no longer serve any purpose (pvpranknum, inmelee)
12:24.00CIA-11- Rename guild_ to guildbrackets and raidcolor to classcolor.
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12:35.48CIA-1103nymbia * r31479 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua:
12:35.48CIA-11PitBull:
12:35.48CIA-11- Remove NPC family from smartclass, as it's redundant with smartrace (and makes more sense to be in smartrace)
12:35.48CIA-11- Rename combos2 to combosymbols.
12:45.46ravagernlnymbia, do you know by any chance the set for rested consumables from your head?
12:48.00Dynomthat rly sounds akward btw..
12:49.38NickenyfikenDamn i miss an option to turn auras off in PitBull
12:49.43Nickenyfikenor am i missing something?
12:52.29Fisker-Antiarc|Work
12:52.34Fisker-whatever you're doing, you're doing it wrong
12:54.49Nickenyfikenwhy does the ABF layout have both frame.auraFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", frame, "BOTTOMLEFT") and frame.auraFrame:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", frame, "BOTTOMRIGHT")?
12:55.55Nargiddleythat seems like a perfectly normal set of anchors to me
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12:56.27ravagernlso the buffframe isnt longer or shorter in with then the unitframe
12:56.33Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/res/23329344.html <-best thread ever *nsfw*
12:57.39Nickenyfikenah sorry im so stupid :-P
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13:05.15ppzguys, i need help. I have user WAU for some time now, everything has been working great. But now something just stoped working. i tryed reinstalling all the addons, (deleted the WTF) and tryed to just have like 5 addons. still i have troubble with local charID = UnitName("player") .. " - " .. server. It wont get any value, you know the nil error crap. what can i try to fix this ?
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13:07.03hasteis that really related with WAU?
13:07.14hasteif server is nil, ofc you will get an error
13:07.33hasteand if it worked before, then it most likely means that there was a leaked global in some add-on
13:18.11Prophhwhat's a mod like ct_viewport equiv??
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13:26.20doktoreasis there ane ace tool for recording videos of games?
13:26.36NickenyfikenAddons cant record videos
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13:28.57Fisker-THEN MAKE ONE Nickenyfiken
13:29.18Fisker-Why are there no Ace'd video capture programs??!
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13:29.22clad|sleepzomg ace fraps
13:29.39Mikmaclad|sleep: faps? fap fap fap fap fap
13:32.30ravagernlprophh: /run local w=WorldFrame w:ClearAllPoints() w:SetPoint("TOPLEFT",0,-125) w:SetPoint("Bottomleft",0,105) w:SetUserPlaced(true)
13:33.58ravagernljust edit the second parameter of SetPoint :) negative means move it down, positive means move it up
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13:44.22Grollbah prat still not updated :(
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13:52.30Mikmackknight: how many rows of buffs are there now used in PitBull?
13:52.45DynomHmm, noticed a tiny bug un Pitbull, once RAID is hidden, it shows sometimes on zoning
13:53.40JoshBorkeMikma: do you ever slep?  geebus
13:54.26MikmaJoshBorke: yes i just had 4h nap
13:55.04hastethat's only 1h too little, no complains from you
13:55.24JoshBorkehaste: gief ocb/ocd updates
13:55.54haste:-P
13:56.15JoshBorkei switched to coolDown because i like the format better and they fixed all the bugs
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13:56.55hasteoCB/oCD _might_ be finished during the next week
13:57.06Kirkburnhaste, woo
13:57.18Mikmahaste: what about the other addon i've been asking? ;D
13:57.38Amadeohaste: Don't listen to Mikma, he's bad peer pressure!
13:57.41hasteMikma: |________| << my carebox is empty, please help me fill it
13:57.46haste(I just had too)
13:58.09hasteseriously tho' Mikma, I work on a lot, so it goes slow
13:58.10Mikmahaste: |´´´´´´| filled
13:58.36Mikmahaste: i know, i'm just screwing you. you already told me you're not interested on fixing it :P
13:58.52AmadeoThis just in, Mikma's screwing haste!
13:59.03Mikmai'm screwing everyone i can
13:59.08Mikmaand i think i'm succeeding in it
13:59.25Mikmaask [Ammo], ckknight, cladhaire, haste ... :D'
13:59.55Mikmaalso, i always manage to brake something from their addons
14:00.06hasteyou didn't break oApp :3
14:00.32Mikmahaste: only i would play rogue :D
14:00.49hasteit works for other classes also Mikma
14:00.56hasteand it's tiny :3
14:02.35Mikmahaste: i don't see any use for it with my priest :D
14:03.03hasteMikma: mana oils
14:03.39Mikmahaste: useless crap :D
14:03.50hastePvE more, then it's not useless
14:04.13hastehah, I managed to find an 'bug' in oApp :3
14:04.36Mikmawth dude, PvE is what i always do :) i understand the idea what you're saying and it is really quite usefull addon for some classes
14:07.08Mikma_neuron_: yo. add a key to open blizz questlog if detailsframe is used
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14:07.09_neuron_Mikma, why would you need to open the blizzard questlog :P
14:07.09Mikma_neuron_: LightHeaded <3
14:07.09_neuron_no, not gonna add that, gonna add support for lightheaded instead :P
14:07.09JoshBorkelol
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14:07.21Mikma_neuron_: well please do :D
14:08.20Industrialsupport to what?
14:08.43Industrialoh nQuestLog
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14:12.14Fisker-Anyone got a name for a piecce of armor with a metasocket in it?`
14:12.44Industrial_neuron_: qheres the options :P
14:12.47Industrialhow do iget to the options*
14:12.51_neuron_Industrial, fubar icon
14:13.14_neuron_Fisker-, all the dungeon/gladiator head set pieces
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14:13.38Fisker-liek anyone would pay dkp for that!
14:13.53Industrialoh, doh
14:15.30JoshBorkeFisker-: Hood of Oblivion
14:20.58CIA-1103toadkiller * r31480 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
14:20.58CIA-11Babble-2.2:
14:20.58CIA-11-- Localization fix for deDE Teleport: Moonglade and Conjure Mana Stones
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14:29.57Fisker-Ok enabling itemstats' feature to automatically update all unknown items was stupid
14:29.58Fisker-:P
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14:50.16sbuckknight? :)
14:50.26sbuPitBull-r31479\Portrait\Portrait.lua:102: attempt to index field 'portrait' (a nil value) :/ - this breaks party display
14:50.49sbuand something is wrong with auras: http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7932/pitbull3lj8.jpg (the blue box is still there if i clear my target)
14:51.31Industrial_neuron_: [9] The Party Never Ends 0/3, can i disable the 0/3 part?
14:51.38ravagernli wish kemayo would add support for questsfu too
14:52.11_neuron_Industrial, yes :p
14:52.16_neuron_cant remember what setting I put that under though
14:52.37_neuron_Industrial, settings -> quests -> show quest progress
14:52.39_neuron_or something like that
14:52.41Industrialgot it
14:53.04Industrialalso, any plans to put the quest objectives to teh right? (alignment)
14:53.13Industrial:)
14:53.41_neuron_I planned it for ages, but I haven't had time yet :p
14:53.45Grollbaah no prat on any of the addon sites and the one on wowace is bugged :(
14:53.53_neuron_afk for a bit, another arena battle uip :P
14:59.42knarf-anyone know if there is an alternative to trackerFu? :>
15:01.46[dRaCo]what does trackerFu do? ^^
15:01.53sbuckknight: meh - if i clear the target there is also a big blue box (where target-target was)
15:03.06knarf-[dRaCo] shows a icon of your current active tracking skill (profession atleast) and if you hover it there is a dropdown to choose another, but it is trying to use a function called SpellCast and then Ace2 gets blocked ^^ :/
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15:18.14JoshBorkeknarf-: looks like they never updated that functionality
15:18.41knarf-JoshBorke ye :(
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16:27.03ominousheh
16:27.26ominoussooo quiet in here
16:27.30Fisker-.htaccess can be used for basic http authentication right?
16:28.06JoshBorkeyes
16:28.10Fisker-awesome
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16:31.43ominousKiB = KiloBit and KB = KiloByte, right?
16:32.06Mikma~google KiB
16:32.20NickenyfikenB = Byte and b = bit i think
16:32.45Mikmaafaik ominous is right on that
16:33.51Fisker-KiB = kilo binary
16:33.56Fisker-i   believe
16:34.11ominousyea
16:34.16ominoushttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KiB
16:35.11Nickenyfikenso 1 KiB is 1024 bits and 1 KB is 1000 bits?
16:35.15Fisker-and technically it's kiloByte and kiloBit :)
16:35.32Fisker-Nickenyfiken mathmatically speaking yes
16:35.45Fisker-But many programs use 1KB = 1024 bits
16:35.52Fisker-kB*
16:36.03Nickenyfikenyeah but thats incorrect
16:36.24pastamancerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibit
16:38.40Nickenyfikenfirst program i used that measured data in KiB was DC++ i think
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16:40.01Fisker-don't even think i have one that meassures in KiB
16:41.07Nickenyfikenanyone know a good way of keeping PitBull layouts between updates?
16:41.22Nickenyfikenexcept using SVN
16:41.35ominousmake a mod
16:42.07ominousjsut 1 file with the layput info in with a dep of pitbull
16:43.08Nickenyfikenyeah i guess that would be best
16:43.58Nickenyfikennow i got mylayout.lua and change layout.lua > mylayout.lua everytime the toc is updated
16:45.40Fisker-Tonight
16:45.42Fisker-we dine in
16:45.43Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1175358406023.jpg
16:45.44Fisker-GOATSEEEEEEEEEE
16:47.06sbuWTB pitbull grouping :p
16:47.47Fisker-^^
16:47.50Fisker-and moar options
16:47.55Fisker-and removing buffs
16:48.05Fisker-unless that was added since last time i whined about it
16:48.31Silviu-Today was not added that part with buffs
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16:53.37NickenyfikenFisker-: remove just buffs and debuffs or just debuffs?
16:54.09Fisker-Just want it configurable like ag_unitframes
16:55.14Fisker-Some units i don't want neither buffs or debuffs, like the playerframe and so on
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17:04.00sbuFisker-: grouping is important since it is VERY annoying to position party's target frames if you dont know which target belongs to player x :o
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17:11.01ravagernlhow about a simple watchdogtag called [unit] so you can see what unit the frame represents?
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17:12.10ravagernlunit = function() return unit end
17:12.57krayakinanyone know if there are some other layouts available for ckknight's pitbull UF?
17:13.27Fisker-sbu i'm not disagreeing
17:13.27Fisker-:o
17:13.46Fisker-my cat is though
17:13.49Fisker-it wants to get in
17:13.54Fisker-but i'm too lazy
17:14.45ravagernlkrayakin: not at this time
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17:26.07KirkburnMeow
17:27.54JoshBorkewoof
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17:29.35KirkburnHey, I've got 28,072 kittens to back me up JoshBorke :)
17:30.08hasteI only think of NEDM when I see burning cats
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17:34.00[Loco]Voodooz^... I am in need of the most awesome Ace compilation there is !
17:34.14JoshBorkejust download the individual addons you want
17:34.37ZjihanGawd
17:35.12winkilleri only know RATM
17:35.13KirkburnBtw, my reference to NEDM on the wiki is complete coincidence
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17:35.37winkillerwtf is NEDM anyways?
17:36.06KirkburnGoogle
17:36.52hasteKirkburn: hehe
17:37.19KirkburnThe story - http://nedminvestigation.ytmnd.com
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17:39.45Fisker-burning cat is faggotry
17:40.08Fisker-I want to personally rape the person responsible for it
17:40.56Fisker-I hope he got V&
17:41.12Industrialhm
17:41.18Industrialthey should make Shoot work like Auto Shot
17:41.46Industriali mean whats the difference between whacking thiniges out of a stick or out of a bow?
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17:46.00StephmwIndustrial: ahhh, but then Hunters would cry
17:46.31Industrialwhy
17:46.42hyperChipmunkIndustrial: what do you mean? have an 8 yd. minimum range?
17:46.44Industrialcause they need ammo?
17:46.58Industrialno, make it not stop when you move
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17:53.09StephmwIndustrial: because autoshot is a defining feature of the hunter class... can't be letting warriors have the equivalent, now can we?
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17:58.40Nickenyfikendamnit stupid buggy game :-/
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17:59.30funkehhi
17:59.32hasteyes, it would make warriors and rogues just as good range dps as hunters! /sarcasm
18:01.22JoshBorke2xbm in 56 minutes, wee
18:05.02Frozenfatenice
18:08.48JoshBorkewith a shadow priest healing
18:10.21Stephmwanyone using the script described here know how I'd go about scaling down just the new frames? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4960.0
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18:12.50MikmaStephmw: try PitBull, it's almost like agUF and has partytargets in it already
18:13.41FrozenfateSounds like a nifty mod, being the addon amateur that I am -- is PitBull just an addon you throw into the AddOns folder?
18:13.52Mikmayes
18:14.10Frozenfatenice, I'll check it out
18:15.31FrozenfateYou guys wouldn't happen to know if there's going to be any slash commands for FlexBar2 anytime soon?
18:15.37Chompersits a little too...new i think
18:15.48GagorianStephmw: You can resize them manually by: /script GetMouseFocus():SetScale( 0.5 )
18:15.51Gagorianfor example
18:15.55Gagorianby hovering the frame in question
18:15.56StephmwMikma: I'm tempted, just don't know about the maturity of PB yet
18:16.07StephmwGagorian: oh, thanks
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18:22.52Fisker-obviously pitbull is an external botting program
18:23.04ckknighthey all
18:23.08ckknightFisker-: don't spread lies
18:23.47Mikmait's not botting, it will steal your girlfriend and rape your houseplants
18:24.19Fisker-context ckknight
18:24.20Fisker-CONTEXT
18:24.25Fisker-(20:13:45) <Frozenfate> Sounds like a nifty mod, being the addon amateur that I am -- is PitBull just an addon you throw into the AddOns folder?
18:24.25Fisker-:))
18:26.08Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/macutility.jpg
18:26.12Fisker-We can all agree to this
18:26.40JoshBorkei don't get it
18:26.53ckknightme either.
18:27.03FrozenfateWell, on the basic usage, PitBull is pretty sweet. Now to dive into its multiple uses.
18:27.18vhaarrhi ckk
18:27.27ckknighthey vhaarr
18:27.36Fisker-http://www.neatorama.com/2007/01/22/all-mcgyver-ever-needs
18:27.56JoshBorkei get that :-D
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18:35.43Chomperspitbull stole my money and violated my cat :<
18:36.10break19sounds good to me
18:37.27Fisker-i want my money back!
18:37.45Fisker-oh i already got my money back
18:40.22KirkburnMeow
18:40.58JoshBorkeoink
18:41.48Fisker-who wants to destroy Kirkburn
18:41.50Fisker-?
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18:42.20KirkburnWhat did I do to you?! Apart from kidnap your children and rape your flock of sheep?
18:42.41JoshBorkethink of the ewes!
18:43.03KirkburnTwas a wooly orgy
18:44.24Amadeoand all through the night
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18:50.21Stephmwweirdness... pitbull's not showing up in niagara
18:50.43CIA-1103ckknight * r31481 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - sort the groups in the menu.
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18:51.33ckknightStephmw: it wouldn't work right anyway, due to the way Waterfall works, its lack of an accordian-style widget would make configuring PitBull unwieldy.
18:52.24Stephmwckknight: ah, ok
18:52.50Stephmwckknight: I'll read up the pitbull readme and the forum - esp about auto layouts
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18:53.00ckknightan accordian expands and contracts
18:53.08ckknightit's like a zoom in/out thing
18:53.15KirkburnFunky
18:53.28ckknightas you zoom further in, the accordian expands in that one part
18:53.32ckknightand as you zoom out, it contracts
18:53.40ckknightit makes a lot of sense if you actually use one
18:53.47KirkburnI'm going to have to look at PitBull just to see this
18:54.21Cowboy__are there screenshots of it?
18:54.25Cowboy__all this talk and hype
18:54.51Stephmwyes, check the forum
18:55.44Cowboy__which forum?
18:55.52Stephmwthe wowace forum
18:55.56kergothperhaps the forum for this channel
18:56.02Cowboy__ah unit frames
18:56.14Cowboy__i didn't know what pitbull was until i remembered all the talk of unit frames
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18:57.24KirkburnI just thought it was a type of cow
18:57.29KirkburnHow wrong I was!
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18:57.55ZealotOnAStick. . .
18:57.58ZealotOnAStickcow?
18:58.15JoshBorke~lart Kirkburn
18:58.15purltakes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking Kirkburn's head off
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18:58.31JoshBorkequick!  hide
18:59.04JoshBorkefriggin gnomes
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19:00.13Stephmwckknight: can frames be 'attached' to others from the gui, or does that require coding?
19:00.22ckknightcoding
19:00.36KirkburnWoah, this song's lyrics were not what I expected... "Cause when we are together, oh your touch is just too much ... it's your anal sex, your state of mind..."
19:00.56Kirkburn(this a funky house music CD)
19:01.37Ozzwaldis Pitbull at a 'daily usable' state yet?
19:01.55Stephmwfeels stable to me
19:02.38Ozzwaldi currently use xperl
19:04.06kergothanyone know if theres a fubar_poisonreminderfu for windfury weapon?
19:04.15kergothhmm
19:04.56JoshBorkei know of one kergoth
19:05.02AmadeoI like that the combat numbers are not intrusive in the PitBull frames
19:05.57kergothJoshBorke: whats it called?
19:06.09JoshBorkekergoth: kWindFuryFu
19:06.12JoshBorke;-)
19:06.16kergothpfft :)
19:06.21Amadeohahah
19:06.49kergothit just needs to be made more generic.  i wouldnt mind it prompting my mage to apply a weapon oil if i have them in my inventory and havent applied one
19:07.19kergothcourse it also needs a "dont prompt me again this session" button on its popup
19:09.29AmadeoI can never read the combo points in PitBull frames though
19:10.01kergothis there an option to hide them entirely yet?
19:10.32Amadeonot that I saw
19:11.33AmadeoWarhammer actually looks really nice graphically
19:11.43AmadeoI'd say it even has more of an artistic feel than WoW
19:12.06Tornhoofhmm the wowwiki april fool joke is kinda early
19:13.02Amadeohttp://www.warhammeronline.com/newsletter/images/2007/0307NLSS_20.jpg
19:13.30Tornhoofthe char looks ok
19:13.34Tornhoofbut the surroundings?
19:13.35Tornhoofnah
19:13.58ckknightAmadeo: how do they expect my computer to render that?
19:14.36Amadeockknight: I dunno, I'm afraid also
19:14.42AmadeoTornhoof: I think the textures look great
19:14.45nevcairielthey dont. they expect you to buy a new one
19:15.00Amadeohttp://www.warhammeronline.com/newsletter/images/2007/0307NLSS_16.jpg
19:15.14AmadeoFor an MMO, it looks awesome
19:15.22Amadeoand no plastic CGI look to it
19:15.31Ozzwaldyeah, that's just one model too
19:15.36Ozzwaldtry to think of a 40v40 pvp situation
19:15.37Ozzwaldlol
19:18.57Arrowmasterlooks like oblivion graphics
19:19.29Arrowmasterwhich were very low frame rate at higher resolutions without top of the line cards
19:20.13AmadeoIt reminds me of that, but when you see it in motion you can tell it's not as demanding
19:20.43Ozzwaldi think it looks outstanding, but I don't know if it's  going to be nearly as accessible
19:20.45Tornhoofnah
19:20.49Ozzwaldand that's what's made wow so popular
19:20.58Ozzwaldit runs and runs fairly solid on lower end machines
19:21.05AmadeoI think the Blizzard name is what made WoW so popular :)
19:21.06Tornhoofoblivion had all that nifty bump mapping stuff
19:21.18Tornhoofthere is none there
19:22.00Ozzwaldwhen is warhammer planned to release?
19:22.13Arrowmasteralthough actually i think the major framerate hog in oblivion was the grass
19:22.18ckknightOzzwald: Q3 or Q4, I believe
19:23.12Tornhoofi dunno never had any fps issues with oblivion
19:23.19AmadeoI can't imagine it'll be out this year
19:23.24AmadeoBeta hasn't even started, to my knowledge
19:23.27Ozzwaldit looks beautiful don't get me wrong, and i hope it does run well, i'm certainly interested but yeah
19:24.13ckknightcompetition is a good thing
19:24.21Amadeovery good thing
19:24.43vhaarrIf it doesn't provide close to the same amount of customizability as WoW, I'm not touching it.
19:25.02vhaarrIf it does, however, I'll take a look.
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19:25.26AmadeoDAoC allowed quite a bit, though not as much as WoW...perhaps Warhammer will expand on it
19:25.34vhaarrI hope so.
19:25.34Fisker-come and fly with me
19:25.38vhaarrIt's a recipe for success.
19:25.52Fisker-btw ckknight when are we gonna see an ace'd video capture utility?
19:25.56TemIs there something like PiL for python?
19:26.14ckknightDive into python?
19:26.23vhaarrdiveintopython.org, yeah
19:26.45Kaelten-LaptopTem: PiL?  
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19:27.04vhaarrProgramming in Lua.
19:27.08TemKaelten-Laptop, www.lua.org/pil
19:27.09Kaelten-Laptopah
19:27.18Kaelten-Laptopit made me think of the Python Image Library
19:27.20Kaelten-Laptop:s
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19:27.53TemI want to know python
19:28.12TemPiL was perfect for really learning lua
19:28.21Temso I was hoping there was something like that for python
19:29.12hyperChipmunkthere needs to be a pil for everything
19:29.20Tem<PROTECTED>
19:29.40Temhonestly, I think everyone should read it before writing a wow addon
19:30.00Temit quickly teaches you the intricate details of writing non-shitty lua
19:32.13kergothwhy does pitbull think this mob (target frame) is a paladin?
19:32.16kergothits a beast, damnit.
19:32.41ZealotOnAStickwhich mob is it?
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19:36.24Ominouskergoth: cos ur special :D
19:37.06Chomperspaladim, beast...both the same :P
19:37.17Fisker-paladim?
19:37.18kandarzhi all, I'm new here :) and just wondering how difficult it would be for me to learn lua coming from php land
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19:38.36Hjaltekergoth: Because it has mana afaik
19:40.18Fisker-^^
19:40.30Fisker-as far as i know all non-mana mobs = warriors and all mana-mobs = paladins
19:41.17CIA-1103ryuji * r31483 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: updated and fixed localization zhTW.
19:45.56ckknightkandarz: I knew PHP before lua
19:46.03ckknightkandarz: I also knew other languages, though
19:46.19ckknightkandarz: it's complex in its own ways, but given enough determination, yo can get it
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19:47.13kandarzI was looking at rewriting this addon: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/378/minibid/
19:47.19Fisker-I knew C# before lua
19:47.22Fisker-don't know lua yet
19:47.23Fisker-:P
19:47.36PeekayEum, I was wondering
19:47.42PeekayYou guys are having trouble with Prat?
19:47.57kandarzworks ok for me
19:48.50PeekayHuh, Ok
19:49.10kandarzI'm using 30270
19:49.27DaemonaPeekay get SharedMedia and SharedMediaLib
19:50.03PeekayOkey, Thanks ^^
19:50.09Daemonawill make it work again, changed dependecies (or whatever its writen like)
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19:50.33PeekayAwesome, thanks
19:51.56ckknighthttp://wowace.com/wiki/PitBull
19:52.20ckknightif anybody wants, feel free to populate the wishlist
19:52.26ckknightI'd appreciate it.
19:53.03ckknightmake it the same format as Cartographer's wish list
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19:53.22FrozenfateMinimap angle!
19:54.01ckknight?
19:54.09PeekayPitbull, Is that like Ag_Unitframe?
19:54.26FrozenfateI didn't find a minimap angle, to rotates the button around the minimap to a different location
19:54.40FrozenfateI get an A+ in grammar.
19:55.27ckknightPeekay: sorta
19:55.47CIA-1103funkydude * r31484 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua:
19:55.47CIA-11BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen:
19:55.47CIA-11- frFR update
19:55.48ckknightokay, here, add features: http://wowace.com/wiki/PitBull/Wish_List
20:00.20OminousFrozenfate: drag it?
20:00.25Frozenfateckknight: does PitBull show the user who everybody in the party is targetting, ie: a target frame per group member
20:00.56FrozenfateOmnious: That would do it. Most addons I've seen have a slider of some type in the options.
20:01.32FrozenfateI ask, because I simply havn't had the opportunity to try it out extensively.
20:01.52OminousFrozenfate: drag the minimap icon to move it
20:02.11Frozenfateyeah, I understood that the first time :P
20:04.27Adyshmm
20:04.47AdysAnyone has an idea about an ingame "watching" addon
20:05.08Adysthat would refresh the friendlist and tell about updates when something happens
20:05.21Adyswhen someone gains a level.. changes of zone, goes back from afk or something
20:05.46Adysya :|
20:06.46AdysBeen tempted to write one but dont think Im actually able to do it entirely.. and if i find out one already exists ill be pissy :p
20:07.30kergothFrozenfate: yes, it has party targets, they're disabled by default, just go into its config and enable them
20:07.49Frozenfatekergoth: Thank you
20:08.19FrozenfateI believe it will create an interesting dynamic for tanking.
20:12.35Stephmwit makes for sarcastic comments after a wipe for sure :)
20:13.04kergothhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30087#z0z .. hmm, that looks pretty nice for an enh shammy with dw.. might have to get together those mats
20:14.01[dRaCo]low dps :/
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20:16.06kergothwell, its only an l65 weapon after all
20:16.18sbuckknight? :)
20:16.27sbu[16:50:04] (sbu): and something is wrong with auras: http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7932/pitbull3lj8.jpg (the blue box is still there if i clear my target)
20:16.27sbu:)
20:16.41sbu[17:01:07] (sbu): ckknight: meh - if i clear the target there is also a big blue box (where target-target was)
20:17.21CIA-1103rabbit * r31485 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua: PitBull: WatchdogTags: Added "target".
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20:19.16cncfanatics~seen Greyhoof
20:19.52purlcncfanatics: i haven't seen 'greyhoof'
20:19.52Nickenyfikenlooks like the latest combat text isnt cleared on PitBull UFs
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20:20.19Nickenyfikeni can se a +2430 behind the bars on my UF
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20:23.00ckknightsbu: how to reproduce?
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20:26.06AmadeoHm, I don't think there's any reason to use Opera anymore...it's just not as fast as Firefox is/can be
20:26.36ckknightI still find it faster than Firefox
20:26.45CIA-1103slake333 * r31486 10SpellWatch/ (Menu.lua Menu.xml SpellWatch.lua changelog.txt):
20:26.45CIA-11SpellWatch:
20:26.45CIA-11- Fixed a bug with the menu when no spells exist yet
20:26.45CIA-11- New timers now default to anchor 1
20:26.45CIA-11- Targets are differentiated by sex, level, and icon as well as by name now (support for target, focus, and mouseover units as targets)
20:27.02Cowboy__ooh sex
20:27.09Amadeockknight: The only thing I see is that it has a better memory footprint by a little bit
20:27.15Amadeobut I don't load pages as fast in Opera
20:27.21Cowboy__i've been saying that for a long time.. addons need more sex.
20:27.52kergothspellwatch?
20:27.53AmadeoI use a third party Firefox build though
20:27.54ckknightAmadeo: I still like that Opera passes Acid2
20:27.55cncfanatics~seen ag`
20:29.20purlag` <n=ag`@0x503e79d4.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 22h 56m 15s ago, saying: 'a lot in aguf was changed recently, it probably needs updating'.
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20:29.21Amadeockknight: Yeah, I think the Firefox beta does now, but regardless of passing that test or not, you'll find more pages that are incompatible with Opera than the others :)
20:29.21ckknighttrue
20:29.21AmadeoI don't know about on a Mac though
20:29.25vhaarrckknight: Actually Gecko 1.9 is Acid2-compliant.
20:29.48AmadeoI use the Firefox build found here - http://www1.plala.or.jp/tete009/en-US/
20:29.55cncfanaticsargh, ag` come online !
20:30.01AmadeoA lot of people claim it's the fastest build with the correct dll files and such, but I have no idea
20:30.02AmadeoI like it
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20:32.08kergothckknight: is there a way to access the table for another layout?  itd be cool to be able to "inherit" from ABF and just modify what i want to change
20:32.45ckknighthrm.
20:32.57ckknightadd it to the wish list
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20:34.30ckknightI like the idea, though
20:35.36Nickenyfikenwould also be nice to have a CustomLayouts.lua where you put your own layouts that wont be overwritten
20:36.15ChompersBAH
20:36.22Chompersshade of aran to 24%
20:36.40Chomperscurse those elementals
20:36.42ckknightNickenyfiken: ah, just share with the world
20:43.49cncfanaticshmmm, anyone knows when ag` usualy logs in ?
20:43.51cncfanaticsI need him :p
20:44.01ckknighthe's grown distant
20:44.06cncfanatics:(
20:44.19cncfanaticsbleh, I got a feature request for aguf
20:44.52Hjaltecncfanatics: Have you tried out Pitbull?
20:45.22cncfanaticswhats that ?
20:45.44cncfanatics:o, unit frames ala ckk
20:45.56cncfanaticsckknight, I got a little feature request for them if possible :p
20:46.03ckknightcncfanatics: add it to the wishlist
20:46.11ckknightbasically, I wanted agUF to be better
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20:46.16Mikmacncfanatics: and i got an answer :D "you can add it if you need"
20:46.19ckknightcause ag wasn't doing much
20:46.29ckknightthen I read the code
20:46.31ckknightand was like
20:46.36ckknighthell, I don't want to handle this
20:46.40ckknightand PitBull was born
20:46.58ckknightbecause it was easier for me to start a new project than take on agUF
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20:48.24cncfanaticswell ckknight, would it be possible, to add hp numbers on the nameplates ?
20:48.24ckknightnope
20:48.25kergothjust install the nameplates modifier on wowi if you want that.
20:48.25cncfanaticssct adds the healing u do above them, like damage appears on the target already, so,, why wouldnt that be possible ?
20:48.25ckknightcomplex to the point I don't want to deal with
20:48.25cncfanatics:o
20:48.25vid``0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0
20:48.25vid``oops
20:48.25vid``damn cat
20:48.26Mikmai agree
20:48.26vid``lol
20:48.26cncfanaticswouldn't it be rather doable to make a "nameplate" manipulation library ?
20:48.26Mikmanuke it
20:48.26cncfanaticswould be quite handy tbh
20:48.29vid``my cat stepped on my numpad
20:48.29kergothcncfanatics: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6852-Nameplatesmodifier.html works fine, even supports mobhealth2/3 for the health
20:48.33kergothand theres a lib in that for nameplate manipulation
20:48.34vid``and then when i kicked her off
20:48.36kergoththough i havent looked at the lib code
20:48.37vid``she stepped on enter
20:48.42cncfanaticsacelib ?
20:48.52Mikmavid``: it happens, i know :)
20:48.55kergothdont think its ace
20:49.21cncfanaticswell,gonna try it
20:49.28cncfanaticsas healer nameplates are more fun then unit frames
20:49.31SarozGone for a week, anything I need to know?
20:49.31cncfanaticsso I can actualy watch the fight too
20:49.51cncfanaticsgonna try out pitbull too
20:49.57Mikmawell, i saw gHUD
20:49.57sbuckknight: i dont know how to reproduce
20:50.02sbubut it is there - all the time :o
20:50.14ckknightnot for me
20:50.57kergothcncfanatics: works really well, i rely on the nameplates with my melee chars
20:51.11cncfanaticsas pala I like being in melee range anyway :p
20:51.15kergoththough party targets may reduce the need
20:51.16Mikmackknight: what's the url for the features-request site?
20:51.29ckknighthttp://wowace.com/wiki/PitBull/Wish_List
20:52.50Mikmackknight: want me to put a request of layout like this: http://media5.curse-gaming.com/images/thumbnails/19503/ghud.jpg
20:55.05ckknightI can't see that
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20:55.13ckknightthat's a thumbnail
20:55.24Mikmaffs, sorry
20:55.58Fisker-kill Mikma
20:56.17Fisker-he threatens ud with slavery and death
20:56.20Fisker-and he insulted my queen :(
20:56.28MikmaFisker-: yo momma?
20:57.28Mikmackknight: http://media5.curse-gaming.com/images/previews/19503/ghud.jpg
20:57.57ckknightin the way that PitBull works, that won't happen
20:58.09ckknightcause target health/mana have to be in the same place, really
20:58.20Mikmaok, that's the reason why i asked it before requesting
20:59.45SarozGuys, good mods in the last week.. names plx
20:59.53Fisker-Elaborate!
20:59.59Saroz>>>>
21:00.05Fisker-Saroz AceFraps
21:00.10Fisker-Fraps that's ace'd
21:00.13cncfanaticshmmm, I just updated my autobar and it bugs -.-
21:00.22ckknightSaroz: ?
21:00.31SarozI have been on vacation the last week
21:00.37Sarozgief summary of stuff
21:00.41ckknightMikma: yea, PitBull's not a hud
21:01.06Mikmackknight: i kinda know that
21:01.24Fisker-ckknight flexibillity
21:01.43Fisker-Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers.
21:01.44Fisker-and so on
21:01.59Fisker-What does that mana bars has to be attached to healthbars anyways?
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21:03.45ckknightbecause it's all part of one frame
21:03.46ckknightthe unit frame
21:03.50ckknightwhich contains everything
21:04.12Fisker-You're confusing me, that's OO
21:04.19Fisker-with a P
21:04.32Nickenyfikenckknight: feature request, hold a modifier key to move frames even if they are locked (off by default)
21:04.52ckknightoh, that's right...
21:04.57ckknightalt-left-click
21:05.36Nickenyfikenyep
21:05.39Nickenyfikenso used to it
21:05.45cncfanaticsthe unitframe default size is quite small
21:05.53ckknightyou're small!
21:06.05cncfanaticssmall boned !
21:06.32cncfanaticsbleh, trying to find a nonbugged version of autobar
21:06.54Ominous_argh, at grans with no wow
21:07.29Mikmacncfanatics: try 'height 40' and 'width 225'
21:07.47cncfanaticssec, first fixing my autobar
21:10.06Ominous_how can you check for syntax errors with no wow?
21:10.12ckknightOminous: luac -p
21:10.22cncfanaticshow to set widght & heigth for all unit frames at once ?
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21:10.32cncfanaticsOminous_, go thru the parser :p
21:10.58kergothluac -p
21:11.28art3miswoo
21:11.31cncfanaticsckknight, what are the available custom textsubs for mana & hp bar text ?
21:11.36art3misredid tailoring to take shadowweave
21:11.48ckknightcncfanatics: load it up and check for yourself
21:12.01art3mis0-300 in about 5 hours with no guild help, total cost for buying what i was too lazy to farm was 45g
21:12.03cncfanaticswhat file to check where ? :p
21:12.16kenlyricart3mis: you farmed it all in five hours?
21:12.28art3misbought everything from amgeweave up
21:12.31art3mismageweave
21:12.33kenlyricthe patterns alone cost more than that.
21:12.36art3misgot lucky on de's
21:12.48art3misgee's rule to replenish funds
21:13.34art3misused the wiki tailoring guide
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21:13.34SerachtHi
21:13.34art3misonly bought the patterns i needed to relevel
21:13.52SerachtQuick question about a idea I have. Would it be possible to create a combat log that is expandable/disbandable
21:14.01CIA-1103ckknight * r31487 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - no longer allow change of width/height/scale in combat (as it's protected)
21:14.04Serachtlike say if you get a DoT on you if you expand it it will show damage for each tick
21:14.13Serachtbut if you comrpess it, it will show total damage
21:14.15art3missure
21:14.15Serachtetc etc
21:14.26art3misjust need to grab combat log stuff comming in and parse it
21:14.30Serachtmhmm
21:14.42Serachtor even I was thinking of making it more specific for specific monsters too
21:14.50kenlyricart3mis: well, i'm gonna be doing that grind soon.
21:14.57art3misyeah follow the wiki guide
21:14.59SerachtOk, just wanted to know its possible. Also, is there a good guide to get started on creating a mod
21:15.03art3misit's perfect
21:15.09SerachtOh
21:15.12Serachtwiki guide for making a mod?
21:15.14art3miswowace.com/wiki ?
21:15.21kenlyricno aldor tailors in our guild and I really want the mooncloth set.
21:15.32art3misken 0-300 is super simple
21:15.33Amadeohaha, there really is a wish list
21:15.37cncfanaticsSeracht, thats a damn great idea
21:15.45art3mis30-375 is the expesive time consuming part without guild help
21:15.54art3miserr 301
21:15.57Serachtcncfanatics heh ok :)
21:16.39cncfanaticsSeracht, that'd really be great tbh :p
21:16.40art3misthe amounts of cloth needed seened off for me though
21:16.48ckknighthey, how would you tell if your target is an enemy player's pet?
21:16.49art3mismaybe i was lucky on yellow skillups
21:16.56SerachtI just gotta learn how to code in ACE/LUA
21:17.05Nickenyfikeni wish there could be something like AceOptionsTable/AceConsole that every single addon used... Aced or not
21:17.21art3misits "guild" ?
21:17.37art3misor a can_attack ?
21:17.39ckknightSeracht: indoor voice. It's Lua and Ace
21:17.57Serachtoh
21:17.58Serachtok lol
21:18.07cncfanaticshmmm, no way to disable buffs & debuffs on a unitframe ?
21:18.17cncfanaticscant find that
21:18.19cncfanatics:p
21:18.23cncfanaticsprobably me being blind, but :p
21:18.58Industrialckknight: http://wowace.com/wiki/PitBull/Wish_List
21:19.15ckknightcncfanatics: nah, haven't added the hide option yet
21:19.39Ominous_ckknight: how do you set a frame to use a certain watchdog tag in the layout function
21:19.45ckknightbad, Industrial
21:19.49cncfanaticsckknight, thats basic :'(
21:19.51ckknightIndustrial: you totally did it in the wrong place
21:20.08ckknightIndustrial: you stole the other request's discussion
21:20.41Industrialack
21:21.26Industrialfixed
21:21.59Ominous_ckknight: ignore my question
21:22.11ckknightokay
21:22.18ckknightcncfanatics: you're basic.
21:22.24cncfanaticsckknight, indeed
21:24.42cncfanaticslol, wtf ?
21:24.47ckknightwhat?
21:24.52cncfanaticswhy are the interaction lines going to the right edge of my screen ?
21:25.17cncfanaticswant a screen ?
21:25.56ckknightnot mine
21:26.13cncfanaticsoh yea, nymbia's
21:26.27cncfanatics~seen nymbia
21:26.59purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-138-197.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 20m 13s ago, saying: 'rofl'.
21:26.59Ominous_ckknight: i cant login to check, is "[curhpshort]/[maxhpshort]" right for a watchdog tag?
21:26.59art3misso how many "raid only" frames setups do we have?
21:27.00art3miswe == wowace
21:27.00ckknightshould be, Ominous_
21:27.39Ominousreally shouldnt leave irc on at home
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21:28.53Industrialhttp://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4828/wowscrnshot033107232659et4.jpg
21:28.55Industrialwups
21:29.04Industrial(happens when i click the selected option)
21:29.28ZjihanPitBull? ;o
21:29.40cncfanaticsomg, /love estimated heals
21:29.46Industrialyes Zjihan
21:30.21ZjihanUnit Frame addon?
21:30.30Industrialtake a look?
21:30.39cncfanaticsits really nice Zjihan
21:31.24Industrialis there any docs on what tags i can use with watchdog?
21:31.24ZjihanWhat's special about it, compared to ag_uf?
21:31.32IndustrialZjihan: take a look.
21:31.52Zjihan...
21:32.06ZjihanHelpful are we
21:32.17kandarzlooks like ag_uf
21:32.22Industrialseeing for youself is more useful
21:32.24kergothmore flexible layouts
21:32.33HjalteIndustrial: Take a look at the ag_uf wiki page and try your luck. That's the best idea i can come with.
21:32.42kergothag himself has written modules for it, so that should tell you something
21:32.43ckknightit's more modular compared to agUF
21:32.46kergothwhat else..
21:32.48Mikmaoh GREEEEEAT! i can't shield anyone with shift+rightclick
21:32.58Zjihanckknight, thanks
21:32.58ckknightthe modularity makes it easier to maintain
21:33.01Zjihankergoth, thanks
21:33.04kergothMikma: ?
21:33.18ZjihanThat's more the answer i was looking for
21:33.21Mikmakergoth: shift+rightclick = dewdrop for pitbull
21:33.27cncfanaticsckknight, cld u describe fast how ur moduling system is made ?
21:33.27IndustrialHjalte: thanks
21:33.38cncfanaticsif u don't mind ofc
21:33.45ckknightwhat did the English language ever do to you?
21:33.58Industrialhah
21:34.27IndustrialZjihan: look, getting to decide what you think about it way better then randomly asking someone else what they think of it.
21:34.29cncfanaticslol
21:34.31cncfanaticsdont be harsh :(
21:34.54Mikmackknight: remove the shift+rightclick to open dewdrop when unitframes are locked?
21:35.41kergothMikma: well, i shift rightclick to cast  a full .. oh, its only when its locked? thats silly, it should capture any modifier+rightclick that isnt bound by clique..
21:36.08IndustrialHjalte: those seem to be custom to ag_uf
21:36.09Mikmakergoth: well it doesn't matter is it locked or not, i always seem to get the dewdrop instead of clique-action
21:36.28HjalteIndustrial: Oh.. I just thought that some of them were universal.
21:36.33kergoththat doesnt happen here.
21:36.37CIA-1103funkydude * r31488 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua:
21:36.37CIA-11BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane:
21:36.37CIA-11- frFR restless skeleton
21:36.40kergothmy shfit+rightclick casts a max range lesser healing wave
21:36.47kergothi have to alt+rightclick to open the menu
21:36.53Industriallooking for a smart hp that doesnt display when at 100% and the current hp when below 100% :)(
21:36.54kergothsine i have shift and control bound to clique stuff
21:37.34Mikmakergoth: seems like alt,ctrl, and shift rightclick open the dewdrop for me
21:37.41cncfanaticshmmm, I might sound like a newb but, I never saw the local var do ... end syntax
21:37.54kergothdo ... end is a block
21:38.10kergothby doing that he keeps the locals defined within it local only to that block, not accessible outside it
21:38.26CIA-1103ckknight * r31489 10PitBull/ (Class/Class.lua WatchdogTags.lua):
21:38.26CIA-11PitBull-WatchdogTags - made [smartclass] show if it's an enemy non-player-controlled.
21:38.26CIA-11PitBull-Class - use [smartclass]
21:38.30cncfanaticsdoes nothing except that kergoth ?
21:38.37kergothits a block.
21:38.38kergothperiod.
21:38.46cncfanaticsk, thanks :)
21:38.48cncfanaticsgood to know :p
21:38.57kergothnot a flow control structure, not a branch mechanism, just a block
21:40.38CIA-1103ckknight * r31490 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add to ClickCastFrames near the end, might fix issues with people shift-right-clicking or so
21:41.10Chompersbaaah
21:41.12Chompersso annoying
21:41.25Chompersreally need to deal with those elementals somehow :/
21:43.13kandarzwondering if there is a newer mod similar to this one? http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/378/minibid/
21:43.45Mikmackknight: the buffs are widther than the unitframes :)
21:44.03ckknightactually their not, it's an illusion.
21:44.06kergothMikma: they're anchored to the whole thing, including the border
21:44.08ckknightdue to the hidden border
21:44.14ckknightthey're*
21:44.15Industrialthey are placed a little more to the left
21:44.22Mikmaleft and right
21:44.22kergothno, they're placed on the border
21:44.27kergothwhich you cant see, if you have it hidden
21:44.31Industrial:\
21:44.44Mikmaok then. just that it looks so stupid that they go over the edges :P
21:44.55kergothwrite a layout that offsets them
21:45.01kergothnot difficult, its just setpoints
21:45.21CIA-1103ckknight * r31491 10PitBull/Layout.lua: PitBull-Layout-ABF - make the auraframe smaller because people can't realize that the border is hidden
21:45.58Industrialhttp://img384.imageshack.us/img384/995/wowscrnshot033107234432oa6.jpg
21:45.59Industriali know
21:46.04Industrialbut they still are placed to the left.
21:46.28Mikmackknight: if border then widther, that would be ok i think
21:46.32Industrial(heh, i can be ao anoying cant i)
21:46.55ckknightwider!
21:47.02Mikmasorry
21:47.06Mikmawider like yo mamma
21:47.34Mikmaand btw, i really <3 the classicons
21:47.52kergothwhy do people like the classicons so much?
21:47.59Mikmai don't know
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21:48.09kergothi dont see it.. color the health bar by class, then the icon is redundant
21:48.31CIA-1103ckknight * r31492 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - holding alt allows you to move locked frames.
21:48.48Mikmait's like, i don't need to see the faces of players, only the mobs i kill
21:49.03kergothso disable the portraits entirely :)
21:49.22Mikmano that's why i keep them on class :D
21:49.33cncfanaticsargh, why alt ?
21:49.36cncfanaticswhy not ctrl ?
21:49.39cncfanaticscant use alt on linux :p
21:49.44ckknightbecause it's alt for everything I use.
21:50.00Hjalteckknight: Are there any plans to let the user customise the castingbar, or if not, is it possible to add the name of the target? (Like the ag_uf castbar)
21:50.05cncfanaticsone function name to replace anyway, will do that myself :p
21:50.08Industrialcncfanatics: SUPER_L
21:50.14ckknightand linux isn't a real thing, it's just made up by Microsoft to say they aren't a monopoly
21:50.21Industrialcncfanatics: xmodmap and xres (or something) :D
21:50.25JJSheetsckknight, roflmao
21:50.26ckknightHjalte: I do want that.
21:50.31steinoi use alt under linux o/
21:50.36steinoingame that is
21:50.39cncfanaticsckknight, lol
21:50.42kergothcncfanatics: alt works fine in linux, its your window manager that you have configured to use alt.
21:50.47kergothi switched mine to the windows key
21:50.47cncfanaticskergoth, indeed
21:50.54cncfanaticshow to switch it ? :p
21:51.01cncfanaticsnever bothered with it much
21:51.04kergothif its gnome, its just in the window manager settings
21:51.06kergothnot hard to find
21:51.07Industrialdepends on the windowmanager eh?
21:51.10kergothkde i'm sure is similar
21:51.10[Ammo]Hjalte: I specifically didn't add the name of the target, since it only works for players
21:51.11cncfanaticsdoing a format soon anyway, as I fucked up my root account
21:51.12kergothindeed
21:51.15[Ammo]Hjalte: could add it back in
21:51.40[Ammo]as in the target name only works for hte playerframe casting bar
21:51.52[Ammo]I think
21:52.09ckknight[Ammo]: really?
21:52.10ckknightno
21:52.13ckknightI've seen it work in agUF
21:52.18[Ammo]ok
21:52.18Hjalte[Ammo]: It's very nice to have when you are clickhealing and want to check that you hit the right person. Hmm. Didnt the ag_uf castbar support mob names?
21:52.30[Ammo]I mean only on the unit "player
21:52.37[Ammo]but I'll fix it tommorrow
21:52.42[Ammo]small patch but wife urging me to bed atm :p
21:52.52Industrial1) How do I disable combat text 2) How do I disable buffs on targettarget 3) why are all unitframe borders _pink_ ?
21:53.04[Ammo]1) delete it :p
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21:53.13[Ammo]or even better
21:53.15ckknightIndustrial: 3) because it's fabulous
21:53.18[Ammo]code the options yourself :)
21:53.33Industrial:|
21:53.44[Ammo]I wanted combat text, so I coded it :p
21:54.02sbuewww, need grouping :/
21:54.06ckknightI haven't had a need to hide it, so I haven't coded the options yet
21:54.11[Ammo]indeed :)
21:54.14Industrialso make hideable, cause you made it :D
21:54.20[Ammo]you make it hideable
21:54.25[Ammo]since you need it
21:54.33Industrialthat so.. sigh.
21:55.13Industrialplaying with power, thats the word.
21:55.24[Ammo]not really
21:55.47[Ammo]you could make it toggleable
21:55.48kergoththis is an open source project.  if you want something and know how to code, you just volunteered for the job
21:55.50kergothplain and simple
21:55.56CIA-1103rabbit * r31493 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Vashj: Bugfix.
21:56.02[Ammo]there's the GPL license on it as well :p
21:56.23Industrialsound like a way to not have to do things.
21:56.30Industrialso i experience it as getting shafted :P
21:56.35kergothyour bitching sounds like a way so you dont have to do things
21:56.36Industrialcan you understand?
21:56.40kergothyou're no lazier than we are
21:56.42kergothno
21:56.50kergothi hear a kid whining about having to do work
21:56.54kergothcry some more, bitch
21:57.00Industrialwell same for you
21:57.09ckknightdifference is we don't need the feature
21:57.14kergothtry arguments that make some sense, you'll do better
21:57.14ckknightso why should we code it for you?
21:57.46Industrialcause its your project and a small change
21:57.53Industrialwhy dont you do it?
21:57.54ckknightbut I don't feel like it.
21:57.59IndustrialFFS thats a shit argument k :|
21:58.27kergothand you being too lazy to do your own work is just as shitty an argument
21:58.39Ominousckknight: could you add a global profile option so the profile dosent need to be set on every frame
21:58.43AmadeoAll I know is I rely on you guys to put in good features, since I can't code my way out of a box :P
21:59.06ckknightOminous: what do you mean? I thought it was already global
21:59.26Ominousi thought you could no only set it per unit frame
21:59.29JJSheetsbtw, ckknight, thanks for getting the focus frame permanent.  :)
21:59.37ckknightyep
21:59.39ckknightnp
21:59.47ckknightOminous: mmm... nope
22:00.02cncfanaticsJJSheets, available for a talk ?
22:00.15JJSheetsI would've started on it myself, but my water heater outlet went nuts.
22:00.20JJSheetscncfanatics, sure
22:00.27Ominousckknight: what i mean is set one option to say profile2 and then all the frames use it
22:00.36cncfanaticsJJSheets, one sec
22:00.49ckknightOminous: oh
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22:00.56ckknightOminous: um... no, not quite.
22:01.07Ominousok
22:01.08AmadeoEverytime I go to Kargath, some level 60+ is ganking, so annoying
22:01.50Ominousalso ckk are you working on aura module and adding options/splitting it or shall i have a go at it
22:02.07ckknightif you do it, that'd be great
22:02.19ckknightthere should be an option to choose between mixed and split, though
22:02.32ckknightnot just consta-split
22:02.43Ominousyea ok, i was thinking, hide, position, and split as the options
22:03.06ckknightI think position would be a layout option.
22:03.19ckknightnot 100% sure how to handle that, though
22:03.30ckknightwell, I mean, the layout options could be easily added for it
22:03.36ckknightjust not sure about the grand scheme
22:03.57Ominousok, ill start with split and hide then
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22:13.49CIA-1103nymbia * r31494 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua:
22:13.49CIA-11PitBull:
22:13.49CIA-11- Add playerclass tag, for those of us who only care about something's class if it's a player.
22:14.21CIA-1103rabbit * r31495 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Vashj: Added experimental 1:03 strider timers during phase 2. Needs to be confirmed.
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22:15.46Solegood morning
22:15.53Industrialmorning
22:16.04ckknightmorning, Sole
22:16.43Industrialfine so i added it to the wish list. (and fixed the other one, forgor the discussion part)
22:17.35Ominousckknight: option to hide both or hide them individually
22:18.07ckknightif split, option to hide individually
22:18.09ckknightI'd say
22:18.30ckknightI'll be adding filtering options soon
22:18.50ckknightand I want to add the debuff highlight as well
22:18.53CIA-1103darkimakuni * r31496 10FuBar_uGuild/Core.lua:
22:18.53CIA-11FuBar_uGuild:
22:18.53CIA-11- Bugfix (how long has this been broken??)
22:22.27Sarozwtf is uguild
22:23.02Ominousckknight: in an ace optios table can you pass 2 values?
22:23.24ckknightno
22:23.31ckknightwell
22:23.35ckknightdepends on the situation maybe
22:23.44OminouspassValue = group, "Debuffs"?
22:24.23vhaarrOminous: Pass a table?
22:24.53Ominousgood idea thanks
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22:30.31Nickenyfikenckknight: my char is dead and PitBull tells me i have 212 mana hmm
22:30.41ckknightk
22:30.58nymbiathe game actually reports that mana to the client
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22:31.17nymbiaits not failing to update or anything
22:31.21Nickenyfikenoh hmm ok
22:31.30Nickenyfikenweird cus i have never seen it before :-)
22:32.15nymbiaif you've been using ag, you wouldnt.. pretty sure it has an override to always display 0 mana on dead units
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22:32.42Tornhoofthe server simply knows that death is not permanent
22:32.45Nickenyfikenah ok thats probably why
22:33.01Tornhoofand by the time the user looks at the bar he is likely combat rezzed already ;)
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22:37.34Soleis there an addon which takes all the final bonuses of an item and displays them in a tooltip?
22:37.53SoleI know theres a bunch of show 2 tooltips next to each other to compare an item
22:38.08Nickenyfikenhmm how do i use string.format() to only show one decimal in a digit?
22:38.15kergothSole: there's a few of those.  iirc one, called just 'bonuses' has a thread on the wowace forum
22:38.43Solekergoth: thanks I'll check it out
22:38.55SoleNickenyfiken: #.# ?
22:39.06ckknightNickenyfiken: ("%.1f"):format(1.234) == "1.2"
22:39.08nymbiaNickenyfiken: ("%.1f"):format(num)
22:39.14Sole^
22:39.21nymbiabah, beaten to it ;)
22:39.40Nickenyfikenthanks thanks :-)
22:40.13AmadeoI need an addon that tricks the server into thinking all my chars are 70 :P
22:42.08MikmaAmadeo: marry a GM
22:42.11ckknight...no
22:42.17AmadeoMikma: Do you know one I can marry?
22:42.24ckknightyou can trick yourself easy
22:42.34ravagernlmarry a hacker instead :P
22:42.52Amadeockknight: I try, but it stops working when a real 70 comes and kills me
22:43.09ckknightlocal old_UnitLevel = UnitLevel; function UnitLevel(unit) if UnitIsUnit(unit, "player") then return 70 else return old_UnitLevel(unit) end end
22:43.14Amadeohaha
22:44.35AmadeoNow to fool other people :P
22:44.44ravagernldrat, what was the addon for priests that rabbit and andreas coded next to violation
22:44.48Mikmackknight: wtf :D
22:44.56Mikmackknight: i see a man's face when i'm trying to open stuff
22:44.57ckknightMikma: what?
22:45.00ckknightoh yea
22:45.03ckknightblame [ammo]
22:45.06Mikmasweet haha
22:45.11ravagernlehh?
22:45.14Amadeohahaha
22:45.16ravagernlscreenshot mikma?
22:45.21Mikmamoment
22:46.03kergothpeople mentioned that when the icon went into ocb/cbripoff
22:46.09kergothmust be the icon for that spell
22:46.27hasteIt's the dummy texture blizzard made
22:46.30Industrialnymbia: pm :)
22:46.33ravagernlvhaarr: what was the addon ag and possible you (dont know for sure) coded when you were busy with violation, the one for vampiric embrace
22:46.34hasteif you have the collectors DVD, it's explained there
22:46.46Mikmayeah it's blizz's texture :D
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22:46.49hastethe reason behind it and all that
22:46.50Mikmait's also in thottbot.com
22:47.08ravagernl:o, that one
22:47.19ravagernlTouch of death ehh?
22:47.23nymbiaIndustrial: just the current hp, or 'current / max'?
22:47.28Ominousckknight: right now the hard bit, making the options do something
22:47.31Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/face.jpg
22:47.33ravagernl(ive been playing private server before i bought wow)
22:48.03Industrialnymbia: hmm. current looks nicer but sometimes you wanna see max ..
22:48.21ckknightlol
22:48.32Industrialnymbia: current :)
22:49.14nymbiaIndustrial: well the final word on it is ckknight's, but if he's cool with it i'll throw it in
22:50.00vhaarrravagernl: I have no idea
22:50.03ckknightwhat's all this then?
22:50.34nymbiackknight: a current health tag that hides when the target's at full
22:50.48ckknightgo ahead
22:50.53ravagernlvhaarr: i cannot find anything at all written by andreas at /files with vampiric embrace in it
22:51.02ckknightI'm fine for more watchdog tags as long as they aren't duplicates
22:51.06ZealotOnAStickDracul
22:51.30nymbiahmm.. Industrial, shortened big numbers or no?  ie 12000 -> 12.0k?
22:52.43kergothckknight: player's pet's target doesnt obey its scale setting
22:52.53kergothdoesnt here anyway
22:53.01ckknightodd
22:53.26ckknightI have an idea for watchdog tags
22:53.28kergothscrolling up and down the scale bar, and it always stays at hte same size
22:53.30kergothindeed
22:53.36ckknightwhat about having modifiers to tags
22:53.44Solewhats the correct spelling of dissapear?
22:53.48kergothalso, combat text bug.. i'm no longe rin combat, but i see "resist" on my player frame.
22:53.56Tornhoofdisappear
22:53.58kergothand it isnt leavin
22:53.59kergothg
22:54.03ckknightlike instead of having [shortcurhp] why not have [curhp:shorten]
22:54.05Solethanks
22:54.13kergoth[Ammo]:  i'm no longe rin combat, but i see "resist" on my player frame, and it isnt going away
22:54.20nymbiackknight: yesplease.  so then we wouldnt need a slightly different one for if we want something hidden when it's at full
22:54.23ckknightthen have shorten be the function called, so it'd be like shorten(curhp())
22:54.38ckknightthink the colon syntax is good enough?
22:54.58kergothi kinda like the idea of using | instead, ala shell pipes, representing the input into the function
22:55.00kergothbut colon works too
22:55.02nymbiahmm.. [curhp:shorten:hidefull] ?
22:55.05ckknight| works
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22:55.25ckknightnymbia: hrm, hidefull is complex
22:55.32ckknightbut you get the general idea.
22:55.37ckknightI'll go with |, though
22:55.56nymbiawill | play nice when entered in an in-game text field?  it escapes those doesnt it?
22:56.03Stephmweasier to parse than something too full-featured
22:57.48JoshBorkeravagernl: did you try vampwatchfu?
22:57.49ckknightah, true, nymbia
22:58.00ckknightI'll go with : for ease
22:58.07ckknightalso, I'm thinking aliases as well
22:58.22ckknightso smartcurhp = "curhp:shorten:hidefull"
22:58.22ravagernljoshborke: im testing that now, but I remember ag developed one
22:58.24ckknightor whatever.
22:58.32ravagernlwow really like that ck
22:59.07ckknightI'm still not sure hidefull would work on its own
22:59.11ckknightmaybe hidefullhp
22:59.14ckknightthat'd work
22:59.24ckknightokay
22:59.39IndustrialI'm messing about with my own layout http://pastey.net/9883 for PitBull and when I selected my own layout (wich is not finished ofcource, but has all the required functions i think) I get an error: http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/3862/wowscrnshot040107005644kq0.jpg
23:00.18ckknightIndustrial: typo, lemme fix
23:00.27Industrialkay
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23:00.48AmadeoIndustrial is a hot chick!
23:00.53IndustrialxD
23:01.00CIA-1103ckknight * r31497 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix typo
23:01.01Fisker-i sure hope so
23:01.07ZealotOnAStickravagernl: as I said above: Dracul
23:01.15Fisker-whats your fukken layout Industrial?
23:01.21ravagernlindustrial, if you succeed, maybe we can see that goold old idunitframes back where manabar is attached to healthbar
23:01.31Industrialthats what im trying ravagernl
23:01.42Fisker-idunitframes? :o
23:01.45Industrial:)
23:01.51Fisker-do want
23:01.53ravagernlthanks zealotonastick thats what i was searching
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23:02.30IndustrialFisker-: something like this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5605-idInterface.html
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23:03.25AmadeoIndustrial: You have a Tuplad comment on that, haha
23:03.35pdpihello
23:03.52Industrial=P
23:04.16Industrialckknight: works!
23:04.21ckknightIndustrial: :-)
23:04.43ckknightIndustrial: feel free to commit your layout if you want. Just make another file called Layout_Indie.lua or something.
23:04.45Fisker-Wow you have a card for me
23:05.51ravagernlomigosh
23:05.54Industrialk
23:06.27kergothhmm, candydice is quite nice.  looks more flexible than chronometer, i had no idea it had stuff other than rogues, and had an addon for cooldowns
23:06.33CIA-1103sole * r31498 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist: Titles are now blank by default.
23:06.34kergothneeds more stuff for other classes though
23:06.45Ominousckknight: well its now done, just cant test it as have no wow as im at grans
23:06.46nymbiackknight: yeah hidefull would be pretty nasty.. i guess we can just leave those in as 'smartwhatever', since they're only for health/mana anyway
23:06.58Industrialtheres also SorrenTimers but its a bit borky
23:07.02ckknightnymbia: no way, I'm adding it.
23:07.03Punkie`does anyone here have a sony mp3 player?
23:07.09ckknightfor the magicalness
23:07.15ckknightit's not like it's too hard
23:07.18Industrialyay
23:08.08ckknightalso, got it so that watchdog tags can return nil (which turns into "")
23:08.50Punkie`urgh, sonicstage, wtf is this software
23:09.09ravagernlreturning nil would be better performancewise wouldn't it
23:09.33vhaarrshouldn't really make much of a difference
23:12.04ckknightyea, it wouldn't matter
23:12.09pdpiDoes anyone here have a suggestion for me regarding what I should use to design textures for eePanels? Somehow, the stuff I'm making with Fireworks and converting to TGA with Irfanview isn't really working.
23:12.12ckknightit's mostly for easiness
23:12.14vhaarrit just makes the code slightly smaller
23:12.17vhaarrindeed
23:14.29CIA-1103sole * r31499 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist: Removed redundant Filter code.
23:14.49PeekayAnyone know if you can have IRC Plugin with Firefox?
23:14.53PeekayI didn't bother to check
23:15.07Soleyeh
23:15.12SoleChatZilla, its what Im using now :)
23:15.42PeekayYea, I saw someone leave with Chatzilla
23:15.49PeekayAnd i though Mozilla, wasn't sure though
23:16.05_neuron_ckknight, [2007/04/01 01:14:44-3592-x2]: PitBull-r31494\Portrait\Portrait.lua:102: attempt to index field 'portrait' (a nil value)
23:16.14pdpies
23:16.27pdpiPeekay, the second half of the ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") string should tip you ;)
23:17.15PeekayYea, Also.
23:17.16Peekay:P
23:17.23Punkie`Use Opera!
23:17.26PeekayPdpi, You working on Skins for eePanel?
23:17.26Punkie`It comes with it!
23:17.33pdpitrying to, at any rate
23:17.42Fisker-i made the best farts ever
23:17.53Peekay...
23:17.56pdpigreat Fisker. Good thing IRC doesn't convey smell
23:18.15JJSheets~whalecrit Punkie`
23:18.28purlACTION crits Punkie` with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Punkie` dies
23:18.29Punkie`~punkie
23:18.32purl[punkie] awesome and lieks mudkips
23:18.33Kemayo_neuron_: Go into the menu and set the portrait style again.
23:18.48_neuron_yeah worked
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23:18.54Punkie`I can't believe how terrible SonicStage is :(
23:19.02Fisker-sonicstage?
23:19.05Punkie`YES
23:19.08_neuron_thanks
23:19.10Fisker-_neuron_ make some fukken addons
23:19.14Fisker-:D
23:19.21_neuron_Fisker-, buy me some time :P
23:19.28Punkie`_neuron_ needs to make an ingame mudkip imo
23:19.29_neuron_too bad you can't ebay time
23:19.33ravagernl~ravagernl
23:19.34purli heard ravagernl is the author of the "Steel" texture which a lot of addons use
23:19.36Fisker-You're telling me you're a whore?
23:19.41ravagernlXDXD
23:20.01_neuron_Fisker-, ... whore.. developer, what's the difference
23:20.22pdpidevelopers work in teams a lot more often
23:20.35_neuron_true
23:20.57Fisker-I think it's illegal to work in teams as whores here
23:21.12Fisker-Atleast as long as the person organizing the "team" is profitting from it
23:21.31pdpihehe
23:21.43pdpiI meant on a specific project, as it were
23:22.07Fisker-gonna get some sleep
23:22.11Fisker-just realized it was 1am
23:22.14Punkie`Who lives in the Nederlands here?
23:22.14pdpihehe
23:22.27Fisker-you can't like LIVE in the netherlands man
23:22.36pdpiPeekay, since you were asking... have any help you can give me regarding eePanels texturing?
23:22.56Punkie`You can, but that country's going to get so much more awesome tomorrow
23:22.59PeekayOh
23:23.14PeekayIm a pretty poor programmer.
23:23.21PeekayLooking foward to learn Lua though
23:23.33PeekayBut i use a lot of mods and Addons, My Ui is pretty good looking.
23:23.49PeekayAnyways, brb
23:23.52pdpiyeah. Any academic language that somehow manages to make it in the real world in some fashion is worth learning ^
23:23.56pdpi^^
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23:24.15Punkie`leetspeak > *
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23:24.27PeekayOkey
23:24.36Punkie`nyu
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23:25.24PeekayEum..
23:25.36ckknighteum?
23:25.37PeekayDo you guys know if it's possible to Have Irc Channel as Firefox Tabs?
23:25.42pdpianyway, as I was about to say: I don't think I actually need to write code to texture eePanels. All I need is for the bloody addon to recognize the textures I toss it. And that's the part I'm having trouble with
23:25.58ckknightpdpi: fully restart WoW?
23:26.08PeekayRofl, Look at CKK
23:26.19ckknightwhat?
23:26.25pdpickknight: that's so obvious it just might work :D
23:26.32nymbiapdpi: lol
23:26.37PeekayHeh.
23:26.49Punkie`Peekay: Opera can, but oh well!
23:27.07PeekayAh, Google i guess :P
23:27.33pdpihowever that doesn't seem to be the problem: I just copied the icon.tga to a new file, and wow ate up the new file just fine
23:29.10Punkie`doesn't hurt to, you know, try it
23:29.17Punkie`power of 2!
23:29.40ravagernlpdpi: what size does the texture have
23:30.03Punkie`ravagernl don't steal my thunder here!
23:30.21bjarvisI'm having a weird issue where all my widgets seem to be drawn correctly but offset about 30 pixels to the left of where the game thinks they are.  E.g., I have to click off to the right of a checkbox to hit the checkbox.  Any idea what that might be?
23:30.29pdpiravagernl: a completely silly one, 1265x189
23:30.34ravagernlhey i thought of it first, you were just faster with typing it :P
23:30.41ravagernlthats the problem
23:30.43Punkie`pdpi, it needs to be a power of 2
23:30.47Punkie`<PROTECTED>
23:30.47pdpiok
23:30.48ravagernlit has to be a power of 2
23:30.48pdpiright
23:30.55ravagernland can be not larget then 512 pixels
23:30.58pdpiouch
23:31.02pdpithat's a nasty limitation
23:31.10ravagernlso make it 2 textures
23:31.14pdpiyeah
23:32.14pdpiprobably 4 or 5 for the design I have in mind (parts of it might be togglable)
23:33.15PeekayDur Dur Dur
23:33.31PeekayCan't seem to find IRC Channel that can be opened in firefox tabs.
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23:34.20IndustrialHmm, Can't seem to get my aura positioned to the right of the frame. http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/3495/wowscrnshot040107013232gt8.jpg
23:34.28Industrial(http://pastey.net/9899)
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23:43.11yacoobcheck out wowwiki 8)
23:43.22ckknightdon't you mean MeowWiki?
23:43.22yacoob...errr, I mean meowwiki
23:43.26yacoob8)
23:43.30NightHawkTheSanemeowwiki?
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23:43.36ckknightit's a little early for april fools, though
23:43.47PeekayYayy
23:43.48NightHawkTheSanedepends on where you live :p
23:43.55PeekayOpera IRC Tab Browsing
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23:45.01PeekayIt is quite Sexy.
23:45.17bjarvisis there some UI function I'm supposed to call when I change the sizes of widgets to cause any widgets that have relative positioning to get adjusted?  seems like that's my problem, I change the size of things and it goes weird from there
23:45.30bjarvisor does relative positioning not even work dynamically?
23:46.08PeekayYou can change your UI Scale in interface option... =x
23:46.19PeekayIf that is what you mean
23:46.30PeekayVideo Option*
23:46.37bjarvisI have a bunch of checkboxes + text labels that are all aligned to the checkbox to the left
23:46.47bjarvisand if I change the titles after initial layout they don't shift properly
23:47.05bjarviseg each one has an anchor point=left relativeto=<widget to its left> relativePoint=right
23:49.21PeekayCan't help you =/
23:49.27Chompersi hope blizzard release a set of patch notes today
23:49.39Chomperseveryone will go "hahah, you cant fool us with your april fools"
23:49.45Chompersand they turn out to be real
23:49.59PeekayWe're april 1st?
23:50.11Chompersyup
23:50.15Chompersfor me, anyway
23:50.41PeekayIT's still march 31 here
23:50.42Peekay=P
23:51.07Industrialckknight: are the aura module buff and debuff frames the size of the height and width of the number of buff/debuff icons shown at that moment? I'd like to place the debuffs to ther right of the buffs but get the buffs frame to show more buffs (and bump the debuffs to the right) when i get more buffs.
23:51.15Industrialckknight: eg, all o one line
23:51.52ckknightI think the height is 16 always
23:51.58ckknightthe aura module needs work
23:52.11Industrialk
23:52.20PeekayBuffalo is a great buff/aura module =x
23:52.30Industrialsecks. http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6148/wowscrnshot040107015134qf6.jpg
23:52.43IndustrialPeekay: nah this is for all unitframes.
23:53.32PeekayOh Ok
23:57.41JoshBorkeIndustrial: hot
23:59.08NightHawkTheSaneIndustrial: very nice looking
23:59.31NightHawkTheSanewhere's the auras, though?

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