IRC log for #wowace on 20070328

00:00.05xyudistract?
00:00.05xyuheh
00:02.38KemayoDo Ace2 modules get an OnInitialize?
00:02.53chuckgYes.
00:02.57chuckgOh wait, misread that.
00:03.00chuckgSorry, I don't know the answer ;)
00:03.32ckknightyes, Kemayo
00:03.41ckknightguaranteed after the core
00:03.45ckknightsame with OnEnable
00:03.49ckknightalso guaranteed after the core
00:03.54KemayoCoolness.
00:04.10ckknighteven if it's loaded by funky LoD stuff
00:04.10Chompersoh ck, any more news on atlas?
00:04.16ckknightalways guaranteed after the core
00:04.32Chompershas he made a decision if hes swapping to ace2 yet?
00:04.32ckknightChompers: Daviesh has been helping with Babble
00:04.43Chompersyay :D
00:04.57ckknightlet's see what he has said since my last post...
00:05.06ckknightoh, nothing yet
00:05.11ckknightthere's no decision yet
00:07.03CIA-1103trh * r31135 10VanasKoS/modules/PvPDataGatherer.lua: VanasKoS: maybe bugfix for a error in pvpdatagatherer
00:08.53CIA-1103ckknight * r31136 10PitBull/ (5 files in 5 dirs): PitBull - add :OnUnknownLayout to the modules.
00:09.26ckknightalright, I'm gonna work on something else for now
00:13.18Nickenyfikenckknight: You know why i get the utf8len error?
00:14.16ckknightno idea what you're talking about
00:14.35ckknightwhere do you get it?
00:14.41Nickenyfikenhttp://ace.pastey.net/9459
00:15.23ckknightNickenyfiken: make sure you have the utf8 library
00:16.54Nickenyfikenhmm guess i dont
00:16.55FryGuy-is there a reason not all mods are on wowace.com/files?
00:18.14ckknighttoc below 20000
00:18.58FryGuy-ooh
00:18.59FryGuy-ok
00:19.04FryGuy-i need to update my mod then
00:19.39FryGuy-wait 20000?
00:19.53ckknightyes, WoW 2.0
00:20.03FryGuy-## Interface: 20003
00:20.05ckknightmaybe 20003, I'm not sure
00:20.06ckknightokay
00:20.07FryGuy-yet, it doesn't show up
00:20.07ckknighthrm
00:20.19ckknightum... what's the name?
00:20.31FryGuy-## X-ReleaseDate: $Date: 2007-01-10 06:09:35 -0500 (Wed, 10 Jan 2007) $
00:20.34FryGuy-aguf_Sheeper
00:20.40FryGuy-do i just need to touch it again?
00:21.26FryGuy-i don't see TGuildFrame or Incubator on there either
00:21.30ckknightpossible
00:21.34FryGuy-and both of those are recent & have new tocs
00:21.44ckknightoh
00:21.47ckknightyour toc is misspelled
00:21.55FryGuy-ooh
00:21.59ckknightaguf_sheeper ≠ aguf_Sheeper
00:22.02FryGuy-silly linux case
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00:23.55CIA-1103fryguy * r31137 10aguf_Sheeper/ (aguf_sheeper.toc aguf_sheeper_.toc): aguf_Sheeper: rename in attempt to get the case right (part 1/2)
00:24.37CIA-1103fryguy * r31138 10aguf_Sheeper/ (aguf_Sheeper.toc aguf_sheeper_.toc): aguf_Sheeper: rename in attempt to get the case right (part 2/2)
00:26.21CIA-1103nymbia * r31139 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
00:26.21CIA-11PT3Bar:
00:26.21CIA-11- Prevent the tooltip appearing in wacky places.
00:30.19ckknightfor a minute I thought this youtube thing wouldn't work, cause I have a bunch of computer books hanging around, but once again America saves the day with a big, garish flag
00:40.19CIA-1103sayclub * r31140 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua:
00:40.19CIA-11Babble-2.2:
00:40.19CIA-11- Babble-Inventory-2.2 : Added localization koKR
00:40.47nymbiainventory?  what's that for?
00:43.11Nickenyfikeni have no idea
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00:43.55Nickenyfikenah different slot types
00:44.24nymbiaarent those available in english in-game?
00:44.46nymbiayeah INVTYPE_HEAD
00:44.59Nickenyfikenhehe
00:45.13ckknighthrm
00:45.19ckknightI thought those were available ingame
00:45.20ckknightoh well
00:45.28ckknightlet them have their library.
00:45.57chuckgnymbia, got capturebar working. Thanks for all your help. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6983-moveFrames.html
00:46.07nymbiachuckg: nice :)
00:53.35ThraeWho writes Ace2 Decursive?
00:59.28CIA-1103kayin * r31141 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.toc locales/ag_UnitFrames-zhTW.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Added localization zhTW.
01:00.05Mikmaanyone knows a link for 2.0.3 -> 2.0.10 enGB Macintosh patch?
01:03.51Nickenyfikenhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors maybe
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01:04.25Mikmathere seems to be mirrors only for win
01:04.32Nickenyfiken:-/
01:04.38Mikmawell i may have found one
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01:05.16Nickenyfikennight
01:05.58CIA-1103nymbia * r31142 10PT3Bar/ (Config.lua PT3Bar.lua):
01:05.58CIA-11PT3Bar:
01:05.58CIA-11- Number in config now determines scale instead of width/height so that this'll play nice with cyCircled etc.
01:06.40CIA-1103sayclub * r31143 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua:
01:06.40CIA-11Babble-2.2:
01:06.40CIA-11- Babble-Fish-2.2 : Updated localization koKR
01:06.57CIA-1103nymbia * r31144 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc plugins/PT3Bar.lua):
01:06.57CIA-11cyCircled:
01:06.57CIA-11- Add PT3Bar
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01:10.11nymbiaFunkeh`` is bad
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01:10.57Gngskis pt3bar like an autorack type deal?
01:12.04Funkeh``nymbia you suck
01:12.12Funkeh``you didn't even make it beep
01:12.17Funkeh``stupid isp
01:12.22nymbiapft
01:12.26nymbiai so made it beep
01:12.28nymbiayou're just bad
01:12.32CIA-1103kayin * r31145 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-zhTW.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Updated localization zhTW.
01:12.32Funkeh``lol
01:12.43nymbiaGngsk: yeah just a low-footprint simple thing
01:12.49Funkeh``i see taiwan etc got 2.0 this week
01:12.56Funkeh``expect lots of taiwan updates lol
01:13.08nymbiayeah heh
01:14.26chuckgI don't even know what autorack is.
01:14.48chuckgIs that the one that does automatic potions?
01:15.19Kirkburn|afkIs WAU still being developed?
01:15.25kergothi like autorack's simplicity, but it was always annoying that you had to manually add all the items to each slot in the rack.  pt3bar seems nice
01:15.52Kirkburn|afkTaiwan just got 2.0? That's confusing - I thought I read 2.0.9 was a Taiwan only patch
01:15.55CIA-1103kayin * r31146 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFuLocal-zhTW.lua): FuBar_GroupFu: Added localization zhTW.
01:16.09Amadeokergoth: I agree...I think AutoBar these days is too much
01:16.14Amadeobut AutoRack is a pain
01:16.18AmadeoI should try pt3bar
01:16.23Amadeothis is the first I've heard of it
01:16.51Kirkburn|afkPeriodic Table
01:17.00NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: it was just committed up last night, so :P
01:17.01nymbiawell i threw it together in a couple hours last night so i'm not suprised that you havent heard of it ;)
01:17.07MikmaPootang
01:17.15_neuron_ahh
01:17.28Kirkburn|afkPoontang, useless man
01:17.49NightHawkTheSanenymbia: does pt3bar handle in-combat swapping of items on the bar?
01:17.50Amadeoholy shit
01:17.52Amadeoit's Mikma
01:18.07Mikmawhere?
01:18.10Kirkburn|afkSave the children!
01:18.12Mikmakill that fucker right now
01:18.21AmadeoI thought you died and went to Hal
01:18.35Kirkburn|afkWouldn't he have to travel back 6 years for that?
01:18.40nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: nope, pretty sure that's impossible.. it schedules changes for the end of combat
01:18.41Amadeohaha
01:18.41NightHawkTheSanewent to Hal? ... the computer?
01:18.44Amadeoyeah!
01:18.55Amadeosince we're geeks, right?
01:19.06Kirkburn|afkSpeak for yourself! \o/
01:19.14Amadeohaha
01:19.21AmadeoI'm a geek
01:19.21NightHawkTheSanenymbia: yeah, thats what I figured but it didnt hurt to ask. I might try it, but ill probably stick with AutoRack for my in-combat consumables
01:19.31AmadeoI stayed up all night the other night to win a TomTom ONE, that = geek
01:19.37Gngskyeah, in that case autorack > pt3bar
01:19.56Gngskwell, for like in combat stuff, which is all I'd use it for
01:20.03NightHawkTheSaneI kind of wonder if you could hack pt3 support into autobar, but that might be too much of a pain.
01:20.21AmadeoI want someone to replace AutoBar :(
01:20.22Kirkburn|afkKirkburn's Geekatron scans the area going "fwizz", "beeep", pwomp", and "bwoinnnngggg"
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01:20.48NightHawkTheSaneRight now I use autobar for things that dont need to dynamically change, or out of combat stuff. Bandages, buff items, food/water, mount, minipet, etc
01:21.09GngskNightHawkTheSane, so you use autorack and autobar?
01:21.11GeekatronOmg! Amadeo! G33k!
01:21.15NightHawkTheSaneGngsk: yep
01:21.23AmadeoGeekatron: Yeah, but I won ;)
01:21.47kergothwhy would you need autorack when you have autobar? the autobar popout buttons give you the same end result that being able to swap the autorack buttons in combat, afaict
01:22.08art3mishey ckk you aboot?
01:22.17CIA-1103kayin * r31147 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3.toc locales/Bartender3-zhTW.lua): Bartender3: Added localization zhTW.
01:22.21ckknightnot especially
01:22.22ckknightwhy?
01:22.32GngskI mainly use autorack for healthstone, health/resist potion
01:22.35GeekatronI'm a Doc Marten
01:22.36Gngskone button for them all
01:22.43NightHawkTheSanekergoth: because I'd rather just be able to click on the button than try and navigate autobars pop-up menues. ANd I really dislike having seven bazillion autobar buttons
01:22.47art3mistwo quick questions
01:22.55art3mis1. why is cavity still listed on the svn for wau
01:22.56GeekatronWho? And ... why?
01:22.57xinautorack updates in combat
01:22.59xinautobar doesnt
01:23.01art3mis2. why doesnt pitbull show?
01:23.02xinend competition
01:23.12ckknightart3mis: don't know about 1
01:23.15Gngskxin, yah imo
01:23.15GeekatronMy questions were more fun :(
01:23.25ckknightart3mis: 2, it shows for me, no problem. You getting any errors?
01:23.29ChristmasAnyone here have time to field a question about targeting?
01:23.30art3misnadda
01:23.38xinand if PT3Bar doesn't update in combat then its shit
01:23.45art3misjust making sure that its there though and not being mis-named as cavity
01:24.30GngskI dunno about 'shit' it has it's uses for ooc items, like food/water I'm sure someone could think of other uses
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01:24.41NightHawkTheSanexin: it's no worse than autobar *shrug*
01:24.47nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: AutoBar does use PT.. it's just.. scary
01:25.08KirkburnFor me, no Cavity on /files, can see PitBull
01:25.15NightHawkTheSanenymbia: hm, It seems I meant to say "autorack", not autobar. My bad. I'm aware autobar uses pt3
01:25.42CIA-1103kayin * r31148 10Postal/ (Locales/zhTW.lua Postal.toc): Postal: Added localization zhTW.
01:26.03nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: does autorack swap items in combat?  i thought that was impossible..
01:26.19xinnymbia: what AUtorack does, is move items into inventory slots
01:26.28AmadeoThat's why I don't use it
01:26.31xinthen provides buttons what link to the inventory slots instead of the items themselves
01:26.36kergothNightHawkTheSane: ah
01:27.04art3mishow is pitbull?
01:27.10art3miscofig menu or anything yet?
01:27.13art3misconfig
01:27.28GildedAnyone else getting a FuBar error on startup for related to "OnInstanceInit" in AceOO lib?
01:29.14kergothone thing that bugs me about autorack is that it displays that inventory slot even if you have none of the items queued for that slot in your inventory
01:29.30xinbuy more pots then :P
01:30.07kergothshould have an option to hide the button until you loot something in queue (and have left combat)
01:30.17kergothcouldnt be hard to implement
01:30.19CIA-1103kayin * r31149 10oRA2/ (5 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: updated zhTW.
01:30.36nymbiathere's the zhTW updates!
01:30.50xinkergoth: or, Make an OnClick event hide the button, then when an item gets swapped in re-show it
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01:32.45xinnymbia: is there any way to change the items in pt3bar yet?
01:33.08NightHawkTheSane... change config.lua? :P
01:33.24kergothi like that hte buttons are individually movable
01:33.26kergoththats nifty
01:33.32kergothshould make them snap to one another when dragging them
01:33.32ckknightGilded: what line does it happen on?
01:33.39NightHawkTheSanekergoth: in pt3bar?
01:33.57kergothyea
01:34.03NightHawkTheSanethat is neat.
01:34.38xinkergoth: if you move the first item around /pt3bar snap moves them into a line
01:34.50nymbiakergoth: /pt3bar snap
01:35.05kergothyea, but it doesnt do what i want.  i want to get rid of the gap, and it moves the empty slots back into their default position in line.
01:35.13kergothif you see what i mean
01:35.16Gildedckknight, 723 I think
01:35.25nymbiayeah kergoth
01:36.37xinif anybody cares, Destruction Potion doesn't appear to have any Periodic Table sets assigned to it
01:36.38JJSheetsckknight, not sure if you were aware, but when re-summoning a different warlock pet, it retains the previous pet's name.  i.e. I have my imp, Quznip out, I summon my VW Kraklos out and the name statys Quznip.  The HP/Mana amounts do change properly however.
01:36.50JJSheetss/statys/stays/
01:36.56CIA-1103nymbia * r31150 10PitBull_Banzai/PitBull_Banzai.lua:
01:36.56CIA-11PitBull_Banzai:
01:36.56CIA-11- Fix for a change to health bar frame hierarchy.
01:37.00ckknightJJSheets: figure out what event fires when the change happens.
01:37.05ckknightthen get back to me
01:37.08JJSheetsk
01:37.27nymbiaUNIT_PET_CHANGED iirc
01:37.48CIA-1103kayin * r31151 10DeuceCommander/ (DeuceCommander.lua DeuceCommander.toc): DeuceCommander: Added localization zhTW.
01:37.49JJSheetsought to be.  Like I said, the HP and Mana is changing correctly, just not the name.
01:37.53nymbiaor something close to it
01:38.42nymbiaUNIT_PET actually
01:39.10JJSheetscould be PLAYER_PET_CHANGED too... but that's what PitBull is using now, so...
01:39.47kergothhmm, to drop autobar i'll need to add autorack, pt3bar, and poisoner methinks
01:41.05CIA-1103ckknight * r31152 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - update pet on party member change
01:41.17Gildedckknight: Yeah, it happens on line 723.
01:41.52CIA-1103ckknight * r31153 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: .AceModuleCore-2.0 - possibly fix a bug. Who knows, this may cause more bugs.
01:42.05JJSheetsOoooh... an evil commit.  :p
01:42.13ckknightGilded: try now
01:42.30GildedUpdating & restarting, will let you know.
01:42.45CIA-1103tsigo * r31154 10Cutup/ (Cutup.lua Cutup.toc libs/ modules/TickToxin.lua):
01:42.45CIA-11Cutup:
01:42.45CIA-11- TickToxin now correctly ignores "Missed" applications.
01:42.45CIA-11- Added Parser-3.0 support for TickToxin.
01:42.45CIA-11- Add AceDebug support.
01:42.47CIA-11- Should've fixed the TickToxin bug with first-time procs not starting a bar.
01:42.49CIA-11- Changed Step for bar height in TickToxin to 1.
01:43.14JJSheetsckknight, that fixed it.
01:44.24ckknightJJSheets: sweetness
01:45.06JJSheetsdamn sometimes I'm not expecting my ping sound... just jumped an inch from ckknight's last transmit.  :p
01:45.15ckknightlol
01:45.34ckknightpeople need to learn to code and add on to PitBull :-P
01:45.44ckknightugh, I still need to do grouping, that's a big one
01:45.59ckknightand also having databases for each frame and group
01:46.19CIA-1103kayin * r31155 10CooldownCount/ (CooldownCount.toc Locale.zhTW.lua): CooldownCount:- Added localization zhTW.
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01:49.36CIA-1103kayin * r31156 10Click2Cast/ (Click2Cast-zhTW.lua Click2Cast.toc): Click2Cast: Added localization zhTW.
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01:51.42Gildedckknight: That fixed it
01:51.54Gildedckknight: Thanks!
01:51.59ckknightlet's hope nothing broke in the process ;-)
01:52.05JJSheetsheh
01:52.06Amadeockknight: Is making a UF addon as crappy as everyone says it is?
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01:52.14ckknightAmadeo: not horribly.
01:52.21ckknightAmadeo: it's been interesting, mostly
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01:52.32JJSheetsAce makes programming phun. :p
01:52.40ckknightno, that's not it
01:52.43JJSheetsbah
01:52.45JJSheetslol
01:53.02AmadeoI thought you were getting burned out on it already :)
01:53.15ckknightno, not really
01:53.28ckknightI do need to do this youtube scam, though
01:53.33xyuany screenshots yet? or description.  Just want to know how it's different :D
01:53.43Amadeohaha
01:53.45ckknightxyu: modular and efficient
01:53.51JJSheetsI'm really liking PitBull atm, clean, simple, and easy.
01:53.53ckknightxyu: screenshots don't do much.
01:53.59xyuok
01:54.42xyuimo Wau needs a different way to handle modular addons.  Make the addons expandable or something in the list.  
01:54.52break19does it show party/raid member buff/debuff icons?
01:55.08ckknightyes
01:55.32ckknightxyu: currently the modules are part of the addon, just nice and componentized
01:56.00art3misyou can hide each uf ?
01:56.24break19i would like unitframes that very closely resemble blizz's default ones, just use an animated image instead of the still one, and show buffs.
01:56.43ckknightbreak19: I'm sure you could write a layout to show that.
01:56.51ckknight:-P
01:56.59JJSheetsheheheh
01:57.25break19i doubt it.. have you even *seen* any of my code? lol
01:57.31JJSheetslol
01:57.32ckknighthehe
01:57.41ckknightI don't like Blizz's
01:58.26art3mis10 print "God i hate life"
01:58.29art3mis20 goto 10
01:58.56JJSheets10 print "Home"
01:59.00break19art3mis: looks like the c64 rom emulator
01:59.01JJSheets20 print "Sweet"
01:59.05JJSheets30 goto 10
01:59.20art3misheh thats original basic
01:59.29art3misgwbasic/msbasic/qbasic
02:00.01break19right.. because we all know MS was around before Commodore.. *chuckle*
02:00.08JJSheetslol
02:00.22art3misoh it totally was
02:00.34art3misbut bill couldnt get funding
02:00.39art3mis;)
02:01.01break19<- had a c64 in 1981, and wrote a 3k line battleship 2000 game.
02:01.06ckknightAltair basic ftw?
02:01.12art3misi made a pinball game on my mc-10 in 18 ;P
02:01.16break19if ya got hit, it'd flash the screen
02:01.19art3miserr 81
02:01.20JJSheetsTRS-80 waqs my first computer.
02:01.23break19with sound etc
02:01.25JJSheetss/waqs/was/
02:01.32art3mismc-10 was the little brother of the trash80
02:01.54art3mis4k mem
02:02.00art3miswith 16k addon!
02:02.02JoshBorkepastamancer: ping
02:02.13break19you could fire torpedoes and guns.. and had sounds of planes flying over head... i did good.. real good considering that in 1981 I was like.. 6
02:02.17JJSheetsI hade no permanent storage whatsoever, and a sadistic older brother with the circuit breaker box in his room.
02:02.32art3misheh mmm audio tap backups
02:02.42break19JJSheets: 1541 disk drive ftw :)
02:02.45art3misokay i want to save!!!!! ready press record!
02:03.04JJSheetsheh, I didn't have anything.  he'd kill the power and poof, there went the last 30 minutes of my short miserable life.
02:03.19art3miscsave stupid.bas n,8,1
02:03.35art3miscload strip.bas n,8,1
02:03.53break19save "Battleship 2000",8
02:04.11ckknightgah, these sunglasses will not work, there's too much glare
02:04.25art3misyou could poke yer eyes out ;)
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02:04.38ckknightthe camera can see the glare, that's the issue
02:04.42break19"insert game disk" load "*",8,1
02:05.10JJSheetsckknight, move your flash/light 10 to 20 degrees away from the camera lens, if possible.
02:05.39ckknightso, behind or in front of the camera?
02:06.21JJSheetsdoesn't matter.  just the angle from subject/light and subject/lens has to be at least 10 or 20 degrees for glare.  move it further if there is more glare.
02:06.40art3miswhat are you recording?
02:06.43JJSheetsmove light forward if the subject is dark, back if it's washed out or overpowered.
02:07.00JJSheetsah the benefits of working with a pro photographer.
02:07.04break19jj giving us all photography lessons
02:07.09JJSheetslol
02:07.16art3misfirst you get a girl drunk........
02:07.21JJSheetsdamn straight.
02:07.31break19i didnt say pornography lessons. heh
02:07.37art3missecondly "something"
02:07.42art3misthird profit
02:07.57break19fourth, get sued by said girl.
02:07.59art3misyouc an use cameras for things other than porn?
02:08.03JJSheetsnah... first step is troll strip clubs.
02:08.18art3misclaim you're from bangbros
02:08.23art3misfilm it
02:08.26art3misfly back home
02:08.46JJSheetsart3mis, lmao
02:09.03art3misi honestly wonder how ofte that happens now
02:09.40break19too often.
02:09.43JJSheetsnot too often.  Bangbros were always actually legit.  they just made the videos seem a bit... misogynistic, shall we say?  :)
02:10.01art3misno i mean people claiming its for bangbros ;P
02:10.34break19stupid people always wanting to be on camera. no matter what they gotta do.
02:10.37JJSheetsah that... probably a lot... the problem is most chicks that'll do that want cash money up front and secured before doing anything nasty.
02:10.52JJSheetsof course, drunk chicks are stupider.
02:11.06JJSheetsbut drunk chicks makes for ugly pron.
02:11.59break19hmm.. did I somehow stumble into #wowacepr0n ?
02:12.13JJSheetsbreak19, lol
02:12.42break19<- married to a nympho wow addict.. who needs pr0n? :p
02:12.51JJSheetsnote I have never actually engaged in pornography... but I have helped with lighting (gaffed) while photoing nudes  :)
02:13.19break19"I didnt inhale" in other words.
02:13.49JJSheetswell, there've been times I couldn't hold the hair light properly because my focus was otherwise occupied...
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02:13.54ckknight"blowjobs don't count"
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02:14.00JJSheetsbut the nudes were all tasteful.  :p
02:14.05art3mishttp://www.imvu.com/ <-- wow just wow
02:14.48Gngskreminds me of ms comic chat
02:15.02xinGngsk: damn you! beat me to the punch :<
02:15.14Gngskheh
02:15.50JJSheetsart3mis, yeah that's gonna be abused for hot 3d cyber sex.
02:16.46break19" works with your windows pc" lying ass webpage, I use a mac.
02:16.58ckknightlol
02:17.01ckknightI was thinking the same thing.
02:17.05JJSheetsbreak19, it would work with your windows pc if it existed.  :p
02:18.09Amadeowhat casting bar addons do you guys know of?
02:18.13break19why do people just -assume- someone's running windows?
02:18.33JJSheetsbreak19, because they're ass-holes... thus ass-ume.
02:19.02break19JJSheets: kinda like when people tell me "just use wau" "well I WOULD if you'd buy me a PC moron" heh
02:19.09JJSheetslol
02:19.17JJSheetsbah, svn ftw
02:19.29AmadeoJust boot into Windows, update your addons, and boot back! hahah
02:19.39JJSheetstortoise if you can get it.  :p  (is there a Windows Tortoise?  heheh)
02:19.47trhbreak19: isn't there a MAU?
02:19.48Amadeoyep
02:19.52break19svn = slower than a paraplegic with a flat tire on his wheelchair
02:20.42JJSheetsem.... not on my pc.  :p
02:20.42break19trh: yea, and it doesnt work anywhere CLOSE to the same way wau does
02:20.42JJSheetsoh wait... pc... heh...
02:20.42ckknightbreak19: do you do it with or without externals?
02:20.49break19JJSheets: it's the "make network connection, check files" thing
02:21.08break19ckknight: without, save for 1 or 2 addons that dont really like that.
02:21.33ckknightshould work
02:21.39break19kci2 comes to mind :)
02:21.49JJSheetspebkac error most likely. :p
02:22.08break19nah, kci2 embeds fence into itself.
02:22.26break19and if I install it separately, it doesnt quite seem to work right.
02:23.11break19and since it's a branch release, i dont feel obliged to bug kael about it (much anyway) heh
02:25.22xintheres a KCI2 now?
02:26.32break19xin: has been for a while.. it's on the svn, in the branch/KC_Items/Ace2 repository
02:26.51JoshBorkeit's just teh auction module though
02:26.58JoshBorkethe linkview module is it's own addon now
02:26.59break19its not a .zip tho, only accessible thru svn until kael feel's it's ready
02:27.06kergothnymbia: thought about at least letting you show/hide a given button within game? something like rightclick the button to hide it or so?
02:29.14art3misoh my god
02:29.22art3misThrashin.1986.iNT.DVDRip.XVID-vRs
02:29.48break19heh
02:32.30JJSheetswell, I'm off for dinner.  see ya'll later.
02:33.46chuckgHaha, http://chuckg.org/dump/2007/afkmisdirection.jpg
02:33.53chuckgWe MD'd an afk hunter so we could pull Hydross.
02:34.18Cryectfun stuff
02:34.36Chompersis that ssc?
02:35.24NightHawkTheSanethere's some kind of pleasurable irony in doing that to a hunter
02:36.12chuckgAbsolutely.
02:39.36art3mishey fellow warriors, ever get those excecute crits that are nuts? like 4K+? well i know what to do if your arms specced!!, k so when takin 2 mobs/players, just focus DPS on one of them, make sure to conserve a good amount of rage like...oh say 50+ rage, then when you main target drops below 20%, pop Sweepin Strikes and hit excecute, if you can crit on the other player with 100% health you can easily 1 shot them, or bring them low enough to
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02:53.42CIA-1103grayhoof * r31157 10sct/sct_event_config.lua: sct: Cleaned up a few default custom events.
02:54.09kergothhmm anyone have an extensive SV .lua for cart trainers or cart quests?  anyone working on merging peoples dbs the way people are for questobjectives?
02:55.38NightHawkTheSanegah, the "of second sight" helm options suck for shaman. ><
02:57.08art3misthe shadow moon quest line helm?
02:57.52art3misit kind of bugs me that they amde it crappier than the nag helm but better stats as though somehow they're equal now
02:58.33NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: yes
02:59.20CIA-1103grayhoof * r31158 10sctd_options/localization.de.lua: sctd_options: Fixed localization option issue
02:59.21NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: and yeah. the mail dps helm is... disgustingly bad for enh shammys, the leather dps one is barely better than the leather quest reward helm from steamvault. ><
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03:05.34ckknightwho's a country music star that's stereotypically famous?
03:06.44Eternally777Explain 'stereotypically famous'
03:07.12ckknightwho people think is famous, even if it isn't true
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03:07.18JoshBorke~dict steriotypically famous
03:07.19ckknightooh, Shania Twain would do
03:07.33Eternally777Yeah, that's who I was about to say
03:07.35JoshBorkei guess it would help if i spelled things right
03:07.51NightHawkTheSaneim pretty sure she actually is famous, though :P
03:07.56ckknightyea
03:09.39PProvost~dict stereotypical
03:09.49CodayusHmm, the concept of "sterotypically famous" seems odd to me.  If lots of people think you're famous, don't you kind of HAVE to be?
03:10.05ckknightno, because the north might think someone is famous without them actually being famous
03:10.45hyperChipmunkwouldn't that be closer to superficially famous
03:10.52ckknightyea, whatever
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03:10.56kergothhmm
03:10.58CodayusIn that case, they'd be locally famous then, no?
03:11.01break191, twain isnt her real name, 2, shes more of a pop star than country nowadays.
03:11.02kergothsometimes i see no icons on the pt3bar buttons
03:11.04kergothjust see the border
03:11.08hyperChipmunksomeone who makes a show of being famous, but really isn't
03:11.25ckknightreality does not matter, break19
03:11.28CodayusYou don't say that, oh, whomever the biggest US sports star is isn't REALLY famous, just because they don't care about him in Brazil.  Or visa versa for a soccer star.
03:11.28ckknightonly perception.
03:11.52ckknightno, I'm talking about the north thinking that the south likes someone, even if they don't actually
03:12.00CodayusHmm.  Would you be thinking about people who are only famous for being famous?  Like Anna Nicole Smith, or Paris Hilton?
03:12.04KirkburnI say this a lot, so I'll keep it short - any comments on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Main_Page_Dev ?
03:12.05break19as a country music lover, my perception is.. she aint country :p hows that for perception? :)
03:12.06KirkburnAlso, WoWWiki has a favicon at last :)
03:12.07CodayusAh.
03:12.13ckknighte.g. I might think that every Brazilian loves Pele, even if they don't
03:12.15ZealotOnAStickYay, got Major Intellect to Weapon enchant to drop finally.
03:12.21CodayusRight, that's making sense.
03:12.45CodayusLike...I had a very non-technical professor that seemed to think that any comp geek must think Bill Gates was awesome.
03:12.52ckknightright.
03:12.59CodayusIt was clear she didn't think much of Gates, but she seemed to think *I* would.
03:14.22Finbut... doesn't the fact that the professor knows about this person make them famous anyway?
03:14.51CodayusTrue; I still think it's pretty inapt phrasing for the concept.  But the CONCEPT makes sense.  :-)
03:15.00Finhairy muff
03:15.04hyperChipmunkbill gates isn't awesome?
03:15.13FinhyperChipmunk: oh, no, totally dude
03:15.19ckknightI know who's awesome
03:15.23ckknighthyperChipmunk's mom
03:15.24ckknightlast night.
03:15.26FinhyperChipmunk: I wasn't saying that at all! god as IF no wai he's... like god
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03:15.37hyperChipmunkFin: hehe =)
03:15.38CodayushyperChipmunk: Well, actually, there's a lot to admire about him.  But the professor seemed to think that there were people who admired him for his TECHNICAL skills.
03:15.48hyperChipmunkCodayus: i was being facetious
03:15.54CodayusI know.
03:15.57Finhe used to be a pretty flash coder back in his day
03:17.19stavmarI am getting an error with bigwigs, any thoughts? http://ace.pastey.net/9478
03:17.27stavmarduring the mulghar fight in gruuls lair
03:20.19stavmarhttp://ace.pastey.net/9479
03:20.41kergothJoshBorke: aw, cant shift link items from cart instanceloot into guildbook :(
03:20.51kergothJoshBorke: was creating desired gear pages, ordered by slot :)
03:21.09JoshBorkekergoth: hrm
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03:21.23JoshBorkei bet it does it the old way
03:22.08Gngskpastey.net should create a 'language' for BugSack errors
03:22.08JoshBorkei don't really feel like looking up how it's done :-P
03:23.03kergothhehe. didnt expect an immediate fix on either end, just wanted to make sure you knew about it :)
03:23.05break19stavmar: update ?
03:23.39stavmari update every day almost, but i think maybe i need to delete and start over, will be trying it here in asecond
03:23.47kergothi've actually thought about doing a gear wishlist addon, with popout buttons from each slot on your character page like swapmagic, but showing the gear you'd rather have in that slot, ordered by priority.. with the ability to "equip" each (just shows them on you in the dressing room, with a summary of stat differences)
03:24.01kergothbut its one o fthose things i never seem to want bad enough to actually do anything about
03:24.06JoshBorkekergoth: i've had the same idea, but not with a wish list
03:24.11JoshBorkekergoth: more of a 'i want to try out this gear'
03:24.34JoshBorkeand it would tally up all the bonuses you'd get etc
03:24.40kergoththatd be cool.  itd be neat if you could manage to update the fields in the character page with simulated data from the "equipped" gear
03:24.43JoshBorkekergoth: i don't think you can shift-click the item in instance loot
03:24.51kergothyeah you can, it links to chat, i just tested it
03:25.00kergothi had the cursor in gujildbook, and it linked into the chat editbox
03:25.25JoshBorkekergoth: oh yea, i'm not gonna go there
03:25.34JoshBorkekergoth: ChatFrameEditBox:Insert(link)
03:25.50kergothbah
03:26.08JoshBorkeinstaed of the new ChatEdit_InsertLink
03:26.17kergothshould be an easy fix then
03:26.56JoshBorkenot my mod to fix :-)  bug ckknight about it :-P
03:27.11kergothpretty sure instanceloot was nymbias
03:27.19JoshBorkeor nymbias, you know, whoever
03:27.25JoshBorkeace is too big for me to keep track of :-)
03:27.28kergothhehe
03:28.00FinJoshBorke: like TheoryCraft's thingy
03:28.01JoshBorkehas the bonus feature of working with the macro frame
03:29.35Finbut more flexible
03:30.12JoshBorkefin: um, yea?
03:30.34Funkeh`how in the name of god do you disband an arena team
03:30.37kergothi think to start we need a small addon that displays a panel next to the dressing room frame showing stat differences between what you have on and what you're trying on, in a sane manner
03:31.12JoshBorkekergoth: i was thinking a different approach of duplicating the Equiping panel
03:31.57JoshBorkelike in ItemRack
03:33.01JoshBorkebut i can't be bothered to go writing all that gui stuff
03:33.12kergoththatd work, but people like to see what they'll look like waering stuff too
03:33.13kergothhmm
03:33.15kergothyea, me neither
03:33.31JoshBorkei have guildbook to work on and stuff
03:35.46JoshBorkenot that i'm actually working on it now
03:36.01JoshBorkeinstead i spent the last 3 wow hours working on a mod to make a timer for misery and shadow mastery
03:36.40JoshBorke(in my defense it statred out as a general dot timer mod)
03:37.02kergothwe need a good effects timer addon.  something like chronometer but actually flexible
03:37.03kergothheh
03:38.34JoshBorkeheh
03:38.36JoshBorkewrite it!
03:38.41chuckgPlease.
03:38.47chuckgI don't want to make chronometer what it shoudl be.
03:38.48JoshBorkewhat really needs to be done is a mod that handles showing the timer bars
03:38.49chuckgToo much work :)
03:39.01JoshBorkeand a collection of mods that produce them
03:40.12CodayusBetween chronometer, cooldowntimer, elkano's buff bars, and (in boss fights) bigwig bars...my UI sometimes seems covered in timer bars.  :-)
03:40.27JoshBorkeexactly
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03:40.52JoshBorkedon't forget antagonist if you use it
03:40.59CodayusHmm, I don't, but probably should.
03:41.07CodayusExcept...zomg more bars?  oO
03:42.49kergothneed to be able to define as many bar groups as you want, controlling via some sort of rules what bars from what modules go in that group, then settings like scale and all for each..
03:42.57CodayusAnd you end up with a lot of duplicated information, or information split between different clusters of bars.
03:42.58kergothwoudlnt think itd be too difficult to make the framework
03:43.10CodayusYeah
03:43.35JoshBorkeconfiguration is the bane of flexibility
03:43.38kergothcould probably use the baggins rules interface, come to thinka bout it
03:43.43kergothitd probably work pretty well
03:46.19ThraeAnyone familiar with ClosetGnome? Wondering if there's a way I can equip what's suppose to be in my headslot with a macro...
03:46.43JoshBorke/equip <item>?
03:54.03JoshBorkewow, prat + waterfall = bad
03:57.49ZealotOnAStickYeah, I noticed that.
03:57.53kenlyricI wish I could figure out my particular problem. It's still completely random, i can't repeat it.
03:58.04ZealotOnAStick"Ok, I'll, uh . . . go bake something while I wait for it to respond."
03:59.07stavmarIs oRA no longer on teh SVN?
03:59.16JoshBorkestavmar: it is
03:59.38stavmarhmm, i cannot seem to find it with my WAU tool, am I looking in the wrong place
03:59.46kenlyriclook at the bottom.
03:59.49JoshBorkedunno, don't use wau
03:59.53kenlyriccase sensitive sort FTL
03:59.55JoshBorkeit's too complicated for me
04:00.20stavmarlol
04:00.44kenlyricthe best part is that if yo select all insalled addons, it no longer sorts case sensitive.
04:00.52JoshBorkelol
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04:03.54stavmarI just receive this error with babble Babble-Inventory-2.2\Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua:377: unfinished string near '"???,'
04:04.06stavmarif that helps anyone out
04:05.43Gngskblame the koreans
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04:17.03ckknightpart of me wants the svn to do a luac -p just to make sure the syntax works.
04:18.00ckknighthow hard would that be?
04:19.26OverloadUTIs there any way to tell what events a particular frame has registered?
04:19.40OverloadUTIf not, how would I go about hooking the RegisterEvent function?
04:20.39sylvanaarwhats wrong with prat and waterfall?
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04:25.17sylvanaarah, a new troll
04:27.35hyperChipmunknew troll here?
04:28.42NightHawkTheSanei got axe for you?
04:30.54hyperChipmunkju want axe?
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04:43.00OverloadUTIs it just mIRC that cuts off that quit message or is it for everyone?
04:43.12OverloadUTThere's no closing quote so it makes me think it's mIRC :P
04:43.38NightHawkTheSaneIt happens to me too (well, it did when i had join/quit messages active)
04:43.53NightHawkTheSaneand i'm on xchat
04:43.53ThraeThere are multiple IRC clients with a default of a blank quit message
04:44.41ThraeDefault mIRC has no quit message, most mIRC "themes" do
04:44.53Thraes/no quit/no default quit/
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04:46.13NightHawkTheSaneBaal is totally my hero.
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04:51.40CIA-1103kemayo * r31159 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Fix unclosed string on line 377.
04:52.55Kemayockknight: PitBull-r31152\PitBull.lua:304: Dewdrop-2.0: args.debug: "func" must be a string or function
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04:54.14ozzwaldhello =)
04:57.30nymbiaKemayo: update your dewdrop
04:57.56CIA-1103ckknight * r31160 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix bug when DEBUG = false
05:04.26Fisker-aww man
05:04.33Fisker-the coolest scrin procedures was nerfed already
05:04.35Fisker-· Scrin Mastermind's Teleport Units ability maximum range reduced.
05:04.36Fisker-· GDI Engineers, Nod Saboteurs, and Scrin Assimilators can no longer capture structures when under the effects of the Scrin's Phase Field ability.
05:04.47Ozzwald|BoBI'm a long term WoW player and a Flash Developer, had an idea for a fun little 'hello world' project so I thought i'd give it a whirl, just came here to instroduce myself and say hi
05:04.50CIA-1103nymbia * r31161 10AceListDKP/: .AceListDKP: Nuke empty dir that's been untouched since rev 4020
05:04.52Fisker-I saw this movie with some asian dude taking 2 players bases in like a minute
05:04.57ckknighthey, Ozzwald|BoB
05:05.21Ozzwald|BoBI'm planning to make a little 'fun' addition to FuBar
05:05.24ckknightOzzwald|BoB: so thinking of extending your skills into the world of WoW addons?
05:05.25ckknightah, fun
05:05.35ckknightmake it with strippers!
05:05.38ckknightand blackjack!
05:05.46Ozzwald|BoBnothing worthwhile, lol but a fun little project
05:06.31Ozzwald|BoBjust out of curiousity, how many times have you horde players killed Gamon =P
05:06.45ckknightI'd guess about 3 or 4 times
05:06.47ckknightI'm not in Org much
05:06.50Ozzwald|BoBahh
05:07.12Arrowmasteri used to have a really high curse of doom proc rate on gamon
05:07.34Arrowmasterthat is when he lives for the entire 1 minute
05:07.41Ozzwald|BoBI just want to write GamonFu that tracks how many times you've killed him lol
05:07.53Ozzwald|BoBthat's goal one, then i'd like to add on to it
05:08.05Ozzwald|BoBhighest crit, etc
05:08.31Ozzwald|BoBsimple enough i think, fun, and a decent way to give myself an 'intro'
05:09.54ckknightokay, anyone here willing to watch a movie I made?
05:09.58ckknightit's 10 MiB
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05:10.05Ozzwald|BoBsure
05:10.09ckknightI want critique before I post it on youtube
05:10.19ckknightalright, what's your email?
05:10.33ckknightI don't want to post it up anywhere yet
05:10.33Ozzwald|BoBmwstratton@gmail.com
05:11.16ckknightanyone else?
05:11.50ckknightalright then
05:12.55GngskI'd watch it
05:15.56ckknightwell, I'll have Ozzwald look at it, if he thinks it's a-ok, it'll be going up on youtube
05:15.57Ozzwald|BoBhasn't showed up yet CKK
05:16.02ckknightI'm sending
05:16.07ckknightit's like 10 MiB
05:16.12ckknighta little over 3 minutes
05:16.20Ozzwald|BoBI'll check it in a few, i'm just reading: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
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05:16.27ckknightyea, that's a good one
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05:16.38ckknightI also need to make a fake myspace
05:16.41ckknightI've never had a myspace
05:16.47ckknightwhat do people put on there?
05:16.53Arrowmasterannoying shit
05:16.58ckknightcause whenever I go on there, it's just a bunch of pink on blue text
05:18.17ckknightand annoying music playing
05:18.21ckknighton every page
05:18.21Arrowmasteri have a myspace account i made just so my friend would stop bugging me to make one, i put a pic of me, filled out some of the basic info, and joined some groups for schools i went to and havent touched it since
05:18.46ckknightoh yea, I need to take a pic of me
05:18.52ckknight(with cowboy hat)
05:19.35Ozzwald|BoBhaha
05:20.29ckknightOzzwald|BoB: so you know, the movie is satire
05:22.29CIA-1103nymbia * r31162 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
05:22.29CIA-11PT3Bar:
05:22.29CIA-11- When items are used in combat, update the count correctly. If the count is 0, set the button's alpha to 20% for the duration of combat.
05:22.29CIA-11- Re-show hidden buttons correctly.
05:25.11CIA-1103kayin * r31163 10BigWigs/ (28 files in 7 dirs): BigWigs: Updated changed zhTW trigger, thanks to scorpio0920.
05:26.01ckknightOzzwald|BoB: it should be sent
05:27.42CIA-1103morgalm * r31164 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP-deDE.lua MorgDKP-enUS.lua Points.lua):
05:27.42CIA-11MorgDKP:
05:27.43CIA-11- Added nil value message for DKP loading in Points.lua
05:27.43CIA-11- deDE - added zones and bosses - still needs some translation
05:27.44Ozzwald|BoBlame :( it won't open in iTunes and i tried to open my Windows Media Player and it wants me to Validate Windows
05:27.48Ozzwald|BoByeah... that's not happening
05:27.49Ozzwald|BoBlol
05:27.56ckknightVLC, guy.
05:28.01NightHawkTheSaneVLC/mplayer
05:28.11Ozzwald|BoBcool
05:28.13ckknightiTunes is shitty on Windows
05:28.14Ozzwald|BoBi'll get it
05:28.14dreamssOzzwald|BoB are u using corp?
05:28.18ckknight(I'm a mac user)
05:28.31Ozzwald|BoBlikewise
05:28.33Ozzwald|BoByes dreamss
05:28.43dreamsskey passes auth
05:28.47dreamss:P enjoy
05:28.55dreamssur lucky someone just asked me for it
05:29.20dreamss(its in msg)
05:29.33Ozzwald|BoBgot it thanks =)
05:29.47Ozzwald|BoBi generally am too knight
05:30.00Ozzwald|BoBbut my 2.7 G5 died recently gotta take it in
05:30.35ckknightah
05:33.43Ozzwald|BoBisn't beef cow? haha
05:35.05ckknightyes.
05:36.11Ozzwald|BoBnice
05:36.12Ozzwald|BoBhaha
05:36.16Ozzwald|BoBsteak is delicious
05:37.53ckknighttell me when you're done watching
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05:41.36Ozzwald|BoByeah it was pretty goo
05:41.46Ozzwald|BoBhaha
05:41.53Ozzwald|BoBi liked the chicken part
05:42.25Ozzwald|BoBdude knight
05:42.29Ozzwald|BoBlol
05:42.34Ozzwald|BoBi'm reading a toc you wrote
05:42.36Ozzwald|BoBlol
05:42.44kergothheh
05:42.48Ozzwald|BoBjust realized it
05:42.51ckknighttoc?
05:42.56Ozzwald|BoByeah for ammofu
05:43.00ckknightoh, right
05:43.05ckknightyea, I'm the author of FuBar and quite a few plugins
05:43.18ckknightI'd recommend copying from ClockFu, it's simpler
05:43.23Ozzwald|BoBdude nice, fubar is what i wanna make my pluin for
05:43.36ckknightI'm also the author of a few other things as well :-P
05:43.42Ozzwald|BoBi told you what i was planning on doing eh?
05:43.48Ozzwald|BoBshouldn't be terrible
05:43.56ckknightstrippers and blackjack?
05:43.56Ozzwald|BoBi don't think so anyway, lol
05:43.56Ozzwald|BoBhaha nah i wish
05:44.59Ozzwald|BoBjust the Gamon thing
05:45.27Ozzwald|BoBlol
05:45.29Ozzwald|BoBand btw, FuBar absolutely bends over Titan in every way =P
05:45.29ckknightoh, right
05:45.31ckknightyea, I like to code well
05:45.34Ozzwald|BoBI'm a recent convert
05:45.38ckknightunlike some people
05:45.53ckknightjk, kergoth's great
05:45.57Ozzwald|BoBand after the first night, i was like 'wtf, i'll never use titan again'
05:46.14CIA-1103kemayo * r31165 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (20 files in 10 dirs):
05:46.15CIA-11FuBar_QuestsFu:
05:46.15CIA-11- Modules.
05:46.15CIA-11- (Non-enUS localizations need to be transferred out of the old locale files. I've spent too long on this already today to do it now.)
05:46.37KemayoThat took longer than I thought it would.
05:47.42ckknightmodules, yay!
05:47.43kergothhehe. i code pretty well, just not often or in large quantities :P
05:47.51kergothdoing it for a profession has ruined it
05:48.16ckknighttotally, when I program professionally, it really takes the zing out of coding recreationally
05:48.20Ozzwald|BoBlol ya, i really hate doing flash
05:48.43Ozzwald|BoBespecially at my place
05:49.08Arrowmasteri actually enjoy just reading others code more than coding myself, ive got so many half assed incomplete projects lying around
05:49.29Ozzwald|BoByeah i used to have that, then i got a job hah, can't not finish that shit :'(
05:50.42Arrowmasterim very much lacking in the creativity department which is part of the reason ive never finished and commited anything of my own
05:51.40Arrowmasterand why im working on a degree in network engineering instead of comp sci or programing or any of the other areas
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05:55.42Ozzwald|BoBw00t! the game saw my mod in the addOn screen
05:55.43Ozzwald|BoBlol
05:55.53ckknightgrats
05:57.48CIA-1103kemayo * r31166 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Details/Details.lua Tracker/Tracker.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu: Handle toggling better on the Details and Tracker modules.
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06:02.21ckknightgah, how long does a youtube video take to process?
06:02.33chuckg10-15 usually.
06:02.41ckknightlame.
06:02.52chuckgObviously depends on the size of the video and their current queue.
06:03.00ckknightmine's like 8 MiB
06:03.01chuckgBut my 30s clips usually take that long.
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06:13.27ckknighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJvynkfu7c
06:13.29ckknight^--- watch that
06:14.03CIA-1103fenlis 07Fenlis * r31167 10MSBTCooldowns/MSBTCooldowns/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
06:14.03CIA-11MSBTCooldowns :
06:14.03CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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06:26.58Ozzwald|BoBheheh sorry ck, i'm work workin tryin to get this stuff  doin haha
06:27.16ckknightwork workin
06:30.19NightHawkTheSanebest thing about dual monitors? sg-1 on the left, shadowlab on the right. :D
06:30.43Ozzwald|BoBlol i dunno about the shadowlab part =P
06:31.27Elkano"more work?"
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06:36.49Funkeh``ckknight: done yet?
06:37.05ckknightFunkeh``: I posted the link
06:37.14ckknightoh, you d/c'd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJvynkfu7c
06:37.29NightHawkTheSaneOzzwald|BoB: well, not my favorite instance, but i need loot from there, and have a quest there, so. :P
06:40.15Funkeh``ckknight: ROFL WTF
06:40.29ckknightwhat?
06:40.52Funkeh``kinda random?
06:40.56Funkeh``<3 the accent
06:41.29ckknightlol
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06:41.50ckknightnote: it's fake, I talk like a midwesterner in reality
06:42.11Funkeh``i hope so lol, you got the hardcore american thing going on wiht the hat and shit
06:42.21Funkeh``is that george bush in the background?
06:42.32ckknightyes.
06:42.33ckknightyes it is.
06:42.41Funkeh``lol
06:42.51ckknightglad you caught that
06:43.01Funkeh``you don't get pics of tony blair in peoples living rooms in the uk i tell you that
06:43.19ckknightthere's Bush on the fridge
06:43.27ckknightand on my mom's bulletin board
06:43.31ckknightno joking
06:43.44Funkeh``>.<
06:43.55Funkeh``wierd, different cultures
06:44.25ckknightI guess so
06:44.39ckknightI live in Hawaii, so the situation's strange
06:45.32Funkeh``anyway gn
06:45.42IndustrialI so have a picture of my prime minister on my fridge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Peter_Balkenende
06:45.45Industrialnot. lol
06:46.06Industrial(aka harry potter)
06:54.01BleeterIndustrial: No more Kok? I'm upset now :(
06:54.51Industriallol thats so .. 1998 :P
06:55.12Bleetermeh, I ain't been near the Netherlands since.. 2001
06:55.22Industrial:)
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07:34.39kergothanyone else's pt3bar showing just blank spots on the bar?  no icon, but if you mouseover you can still see the tooltip..
07:34.40kergothits odd
07:34.53kergothand the displayed count of those items is correct
07:38.01SunTigerpt3bar, i think i missed another mod release.
07:38.28nymbiakergoth: weird.  screenshot?
07:38.32kergothit hasnt been released.. its in svn
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07:44.12evlHmms, any addon that allows you to input/choose a recipie and get the complete materials drill-down?
07:44.29evlE.g Shadowcloth, you need mats 4 levels deep to make one piece
07:44.43kergothnymbia: http://gallery.kergoth.com/wow/shot?full=1
07:44.58Nickenyfikenevl: ReverseEngineering?
07:45.15evlThat only allows you to click through
07:45.27evlI would like a complete list so I can farm the mats
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07:46.08NickenyfikenMaybe Jigsaw
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07:47.03evlexcept that only works for professions that you have and recipies that you know, which is of limited usefulness
07:48.51Elkanoevl, could be done with PT3 maybe... Mendeleev curently only shows the oposite direction meaning from a you can craft b from which you can craft c
07:49.04NickenyfikenTradeskillInfo got info about everything craftable by all professions
07:49.23ElkanoNickenyfiken, but it doesn't do the rundown
07:49.29Nickenyfikennope
07:50.01evlMy idea was: You select an item via PT3, and you get a "Quest Tracker" look a like with a list of all the mats you need
07:50.16Nickenyfikenbtw, could Mendy show like "Turin for 25 aldor rep" in tooltip on rep items?
07:50.25evlso you can just go crazy on AH/farming etc. until you have everything you need:)
07:51.11nymbiakergoth: that's... odd.  when did that happen?
07:51.45kergothi'm not sure exactly.. it was behaving earlier today, but now its doing that.. i dont recall changing anything having to do with pt3bar itself.. though i did do a pass of embed updates across my addon set to ensure i have all the newest libs
07:51.46NightHawkTheSaneNickenyfiken: I think that'd require rep turnins to be in a sane set in pt3?
07:52.05kergoththe odd thing is that autobar's icons of the exact same items show up
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07:52.44ElkanoNickenyfiken, rep was just added to PT3, it's not in Mendeleev, yet
07:53.22CIA-1103sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r31168 10Prat/PratOB/modules/ (6 files): Prat: Current with trunk
07:53.35NickenyfikenElkano: ok
07:56.03nymbiakergoth: try /dump PT3Bar1.icon:GetTexture()
07:56.16Elkanonymbia, maybe the wiki should be updated with infos on which data is available via PT3 and what the additional data stored with each item means. Reputation.Turnin looks strange to me ;)
07:57.33kergoth"Interface\\Icons\\INV_Misc_Bandage_12"
07:57.39kergothhm
07:58.55Fisker-I need to laugh at ag`
07:58.59Fisker-he's fucking pwned
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07:59.13Fisker-It's so hilarious i'm lying on the floor right now
07:59.26Fisker-i'm rolling on my back, laughing
07:59.35Fisker-and i'm highfiving my cat
07:59.45nymbiaElkano: yeah it's a bit odd. the number after the 'v' is the amount of rep per item (note that it can be a fraction), and the number after 'stop' is the rep value at which that item stops being an available turnin
08:00.19nymbiakergoth: wtf, it's there.. /dump PT3Bar1.icon:Show()  ?
08:00.37Fisker-ag` purchased C&C3 over EA Link because it would be out a day before the DK release, and predator said 2 days ago that all europeans won't be able to unlock the game before the 30th
08:00.39Fisker-harharharharha
08:00.59Fisker-(1 day after DK release btw :P)
08:01.29kergothnymbia: huh. i see the icon now, though it's darker in color than it should be
08:02.01nymbiahrm..
08:02.52kergothlogging onto a test char with only pt3bar enabled
08:03.05Elkanonymbia, reminds me that wowhead should clean it's DB...
08:03.55Elkanoand I think it would make more sense to have it stored in a form "x rep per y items" instead of "x rep per item" since you can't turnin single items in most cases
08:04.38CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31169 10Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/ChannelSticky.lua):
08:04.38CIA-11Prat: Enhancements to the outbound chat functionality. Implementation of the /gr
08:04.38CIA-11/group smartgroup type chat which picks group/raid/battleground dynamically.
08:04.38CIA-11Behaves like an ordinary chat type (can be sticky, has ui feedback while typeing
08:04.38CIA-11/gr <foo> etc.
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08:06.32kergothhrmph
08:06.42kergothon the test char the button has an icon.. cold milk
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08:07.31nymbiayay for cold milk!
08:07.37kergothhehe
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08:10.44kergothwtf
08:10.49kergothpt3bar on my 43 hunter has icons
08:10.53kergothpt3bar on my rogue or shaman, nope
08:11.19renchaphunters are cheated
08:12.16nymbiakergoth: no errors even? :(
08:12.28Fisker-kergoth you leet enough with linux?
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08:14.59kergothnymbia: nope :\
08:15.24kergothFisker-: i've been using it since '95, and have 3 linux certifications, and have built and maintained a number of linux distros, and i write linux kernel drivers for a living
08:15.26kergothif that counts
08:15.32Fisker-nah
08:15.34Fisker-i can't use you
08:15.36Fisker-:P
08:15.43Fisker-How do i add a user in a specific group?
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08:15.59kergothits just an option to adduser
08:16.12Fisker-so like adduser name group?
08:16.15krkastupid linux and their unintuitive commands!
08:16.27krkawho would have guessed adduser would add a user to something?
08:16.41krkaadduser --help
08:16.43Fisker-ALRIGHT ALRIGHT
08:16.50kergothits likely that you'd want to create the user with its primary group being a unique one for the user, but also add him to another group
08:17.05kergothdo a normal adduser, then an 'adduser <username> <groupname>' for each additional group you want to add him to
08:17.19kergothas krka says, the man page should cover it
08:17.19Fisker-Gonna use it for ftp cause i suck
08:17.27Fisker-and reading man pages are not funny
08:17.36Fisker-but adduser --help actually gave me an example
08:17.42Fisker-adduser user group
08:17.42Fisker-<PROTECTED>
08:17.43Fisker-:P
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08:18.33kergothmy level 8 pally's pt3bar has icons too
08:19.35Fisker-pt3bar?
08:19.38Fisker-what's all this then?
08:19.45Punkie`autobar
08:19.52knarf-Fisker- 'man' pages? :>
08:19.53Punkie`but this big -> <-
08:19.57kergothhehe
08:20.04Fisker-where can i get it?!
08:20.16Punkie`the svn, durr
08:20.24Fisker-durr
08:20.38Fisker-if it's in branches then DO NOT WANT
08:20.46Punkie`no branches
08:20.47kergothits on the trunk
08:20.52Punkie`but you need to be '1337' to use it
08:21.14Fisker-waaah
08:21.28Fisker-not my fault that wowaceupdater didn't figure it out
08:21.51Punkie`wau has too many buttons to update mods
08:22.01Punkie`i like to double click 1 icon only!
08:22.01[Ammo]morning
08:22.54Fisker-let's not talk to [Ammo] i heard he eats babies
08:22.54NightHawkTheSanewhy is it that every fucking pug seems completely incapable of not sucking on something like Blackheart?
08:22.54Punkie`Fisker-: probably true: http://www.booncontrol.com/ammo2.jpg
08:23.16[Ammo]hahaha
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08:24.03Fisker-I dislike working btw
08:24.27Punkie`do you even work?
08:25.15Fisker-somewhat
08:25.24Punkie`nymbia: will you ever allow a rollover popup on PT3Bar like Autobar has, saves me a lot of space if so :)
08:25.45Fisker-I have to setup a linux server with apache and some other crap for our guild :(
08:26.00Punkie`why don't you just ezmode?
08:26.09Fisker-ezmode? :o
08:26.22Punkie`you knowz it
08:26.28Fisker-windows?
08:26.35Punkie`no
08:26.37Punkie`http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
08:27.05Fisker-Pretty much the same as apt-getting it anyways
08:32.23Fisker-pt3bar is awesome!
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08:32.35Fisker-although it doesn't have mounts or hearthstone :(
08:32.35kergothhuh, this time i got a pt3bar usage error about GetItemCount on login for some reason
08:34.13Fisker-nymbia you n00b
08:34.23[Ammo]does pt3bar have the easy leftclickrightclick poisons on mainhand offhand?
08:34.27Fisker-isn't estimated heals supposed to show on other targets than yourself?
08:34.30[Ammo](main feature i use from autobar :p)
08:35.17LaricworkFisker- so was c&c3 any good?
08:35.26Punkie`Fisker-: ["Misc.Mount.Normal"], ["Misc.Mount.Flying"]
08:35.54kergothif i drop autobar for pt3bar, i'll be switching back to Poisoner for poison application
08:38.04Fisker-Laricwork yeah
08:38.04[Ammo]I'm working on LockSmith atm :p
08:38.11CIA-1103fatherjim * r31170 10loudmouth/ (Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua loudmouth.toc):
08:38.11CIA-11loudmouth:
08:38.11CIA-11- New features test for beta users
08:38.17[Ammo]1 button addon that unlocks lockboxes using a secureactionbutton
08:38.32[Ammo]since you can nolonger do it from 1 script automatically
08:38.36Fisker-Punkie` how do i add them?
08:38.37[Ammo]you'll just have to spam that sucker
08:38.45Punkie`edit the config.lua!
08:38.58Fisker-fag!
08:38.58Fisker-:P
08:39.03Punkie`Oh man, [Ammo] I almost forgot about your noob rogue
08:39.05SunTigerhmm
08:39.09Punkie`maek me some mods!
08:39.12Punkie`*clicks fingers*
08:39.22SunTigerdoes this pt3bar have the option to but my tradeskill buttons in it ?
08:39.32Punkie`i don't think it does
08:39.50[Ammo]my noob rogue will be infamous soon
08:40.05[Ammo]after me and KC go on our STV questing/ganking spree
08:40.12Punkie`lies
08:40.13[Ammo]14 kills in 30 mins the first night :p
08:40.23Punkie`elemental plateau is where it's at
08:40.30[Ammo]need levels for that :p
08:40.31SunTiger[Ammo], damn gankers
08:40.31Punkie`can't have people farming motes without earning them
08:40.35CIA-1103fatherjim * r31171 10loudmouth/ (Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua):
08:40.35CIA-11loudmouth:
08:40.35CIA-11- Bug fix
08:40.44SunTigeryou know what happens if people in my guild get ganked in stv ?
08:40.53Punkie`they whine?
08:40.53SunTigerthey get an escort of two lvl 70 rogues.
08:41.02[Ammo]haha
08:41.07[Ammo]pvp server baby
08:41.14SunTigerpvp-rp
08:41.16[Ammo]well we were 32 and 31 at the time
08:41.22[Ammo]ganking level 38's
08:41.25[Ammo]it's the best
08:41.39[Ammo]ambush, backstab roadkill
08:41.59SunTigergarrote, rupture
08:42.01SunTigerwalk away
08:42.18Punkie`who cares :P
08:42.22evlwtf?
08:42.26evlyou gank using specials?
08:42.36SunTigerno, i protect
08:42.36evlsap = throw, throw, throw, throw, throw, throw, throw, throw, throw, throw
08:42.46SunTigerand what so special about garrote rupture
08:42.54SunTigerits a normal opener and a normal finisher.
08:42.55evlmy new favorite game is "Kill the clothie with Deadly Throw!"
08:43.00Punkie`evl: why throw, when you have Sunfury Bow of the Phoenex!
08:43.10[Ammo]that bow is pure ownage on a gnome :)
08:43.16Punkie`I saw a mage running away from Halaa on 20%
08:43.16SunTigergouge, deadly throw, gouge, deadly throw.
08:43.20Punkie`*twang*
08:43.24Punkie`1.2k shoot crit
08:43.30evlPunkie`: damage range on Felsteel Whisper Knives is 139-140 = pain :)
08:43.33Fisker-i'm fapping to pitbull
08:43.44SunTigerrogues get the same RAP as hunters before talents
08:43.44[Ammo]pitbull lacks some style
08:43.46evlscreens or it doesn't exist
08:43.48[Ammo]the colors are too hard atm
08:43.49SunTigerofcourse we make for good shooters
08:43.55[Ammo]aguf looks prettier
08:43.58[Ammo]but nothing that can be fixed :)
08:44.04[Ammo]can
08:44.05Punkie`I know, SunTiger :P
08:44.05[Ammo]can't
08:44.07evlI've violated agUF so much it looks 99% like oUF :P
08:44.14Punkie`It's still quite funny though :)
08:44.15SunTigeri don't think ckknight cares much for colours right now.
08:44.20SunTigerevl, same here
08:44.23[Ammo]me neither ST
08:44.23evlcan I get some screens?
08:44.28SunTigeroUF with a castbar
08:44.30Fisker-Only thing i want it to know what's what :P
08:44.38evloUF: hehe same here
08:44.38Fisker-and be able to remove buffs from frames
08:45.16Punkie`yeah, Fisker-
08:45.25Punkie`FU ammo and your corruptions!
08:45.33[Ammo]haha
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08:46.48Fisker-Does anyone have an idea about vsftpd?
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08:53.28nymbiaZealotOnAStick: ping
08:53.30Fisker-waaah
08:53.31Fisker-[R] USER ftp
08:53.31Fisker-[R] 530 This FTP server does not allow anonymous logins.
08:53.38Fisker-Does that seem anonymous to you?
08:53.41Fisker-faggot ftp server :(
08:53.49nymbiawrecked
08:53.54nymbia;)
08:56.51Frittiftp is an old equiv to 'anonymous' used by older browsers afaik
08:57.23FrittiI use it because anonymous is harder to type correctly :)
08:57.39nymbiaaninmouse?
08:57.57Frittiannonmousse
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08:58.51vhaarranimehouse?
08:58.52NightHawkTheSaneanimemouse!
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09:00.41SunTigeranimemouse are evil
09:00.47SunTigerand apparently immortal
09:09.55CIA-1103fatherjim * r31172 10loudmouth/:
09:09.55CIA-11loudmouth:
09:09.56CIA-11- Externals Update
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09:11.55nee|workmorning.
09:12.02nee|workAnd I came across this odd suituation: http://www.wftv.com/news/6253589/detail.html oO
09:13.48knarf-http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5208.0 <... would be kinda cool
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09:17.30CIA-1103elkano * r31173 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua): (log message trimmed)
09:17.30CIA-11ElkBuffBars
09:17.30CIA-11- bugfixes
09:17.30CIA-11- changes to sticky code
09:17.30CIA-11- right click on anchor will bring up Dewdrop menu for the group
09:17.30CIA-11- status bar can now be disabled
09:17.32CIA-11- added code for profile changes
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09:20.44NightHawkTheSaneI just wiped for 2 hours and 6 attempts on blackheart the inciter. ><
09:20.59NightHawkTheSanegod i hate pugs
09:20.59[dRaCo]get a new group ^^
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09:21.42NightHawkTheSaneI think I just need a guild.
09:22.06knarf-What server do you play on ? :P
09:22.08[dRaCo]yeah, that could indeed be helpful
09:22.13NightHawkTheSanelaughing skull
09:22.23knarf-sorry, can't help you :P
09:24.26Elkanochecking todo: bar color, add/remove bargroup, name filter -> alpha release :) Im getting closer
09:25.04NightHawkTheSanesadly, its nights like these that reallyl make me question why i play this game. :P
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09:30.40knarf-NightHawkTheSane hehe, well I play it to play with irl friends :)
09:31.11NightHawkTheSaneknarf-: yeah. so do i. but when they're in a raiding guilds and i'm not.. *shrug*
09:31.29knarf-NightHawkTheSane we've made sure we all are in a raiding guild, together :)
09:31.50NightHawkTheSanecan i have your friends? :P
09:32.00knarf-haha :P
09:32.30knarf-NightHawkTheSane can't you just poke them and make you join ?
09:33.32knarf-but agreed, I would not be playing this game if I could not raid / fool around together with the ppl I know :)
09:33.39NightHawkTheSane*shrug* I've tried, but i don't really know anyone else in the guild and they just shrug and say "well, i cant invite you, so there's nothing i can do"
09:35.05CIA-1103miyu * r31174 10GuildMap/localization.lua:
09:35.05CIA-11GuildMap:
09:35.05CIA-11- zhTW localization support.
09:36.26knarf-NightHawkTheSane sure they can, they can poke their guild leader
09:37.05knarf-put in a good word, or atleast have you as a non-raiding member if it is, thats atleast better than not being in a guild at all, imho
09:38.03NightHawkTheSaneYeah, you'd think. :P
09:38.25knarf-NightHawkTheSane why would it not be better? ;)
09:38.55NightHawkTheSaneer, rather, you'd think they could poke the GM, and such. No idea if they have, but regardless it certainly hasnt come to anything
09:39.36knarf-NightHawkTheSane slap them around then :)
09:39.43NightHawkTheSanelol
09:40.04knarf-What kind of friends are they anyway if they just say "there is nothing I can do" ? :/
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09:40.25NightHawkTheSanei've been wondering that myself.
09:41.06knarf-I recently got a classmate to transfer server and got him into our guild, the fact he was a pally and we needed one was a big plus but hey :P
09:45.37knarf-NightHawkTheSane I would poke my friends with a stick, getting a non-raiding spot should not be a problem, not in my eyes atleast :)
09:48.00Fisker-i hope your addon won't suck Elkano
09:48.01Fisker-or else
09:48.54ElkanoFisker-, we went through that already...
09:49.05Fisker-went through what? :(
09:50.20knarf-the lazer
09:57.45nymbiadid it hurt?
09:58.27Fisker-i sure hope so
09:59.05evlhow usable is PitBull?
09:59.08evlcomparable to agUF?
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10:04.56[dRaCo]no castbars yet, afaik
10:05.43Fisker-WTF!!!!!
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10:10.55Fisker-yay
10:10.58Fisker-i have a partner
10:11.11Fisker-or atleast i got an email saying i had :o
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10:15.39nymbialol
10:20.55Punkie`nymbia: !!!
10:21.23nymbia~flee
10:21.28purlACTION runs away screaming
10:21.51Punkie`will PT3Bar ever have popup thingy? *puppydogeyes*
10:22.30nymbiauh.. probably not.  but i'll look at what that needs, and if it's doable while still being just as fast, i might throw it in ;)
10:22.54Punkie`hooray !
10:22.54nee|worklol http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070328
10:22.54Punkie`it just saves a huge amount of space is all
10:23.40Punkie`i dislike having around 4 buttons for snacks, since i won't be able to chose which one i would like from the bar if it's in just one button
10:23.54nymbiayeah
10:24.31Punkie`*hug*
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10:28.55CIA-1103nymbia * r31175 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
10:28.55CIA-11PT3Bar:
10:28.55CIA-11- Don't call GetItemCount if the button has no item.
10:29.46Fisker-cock
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10:31.12Fisker-lol nee|work
10:31.16Fisker-so true though
10:31.20yacoobhttp://mike.newsvine.com/_news/2007/03/26/633799-hacking-john-mccain :D
10:32.41nee|work:)
10:33.36CIA-1103anea * r31176 10SpamSentry/compatibility.lua:
10:33.36CIA-11SpamSentry:
10:33.36CIA-11- 20070328 patch. Uploading non-versioned compatibility.lua
10:33.38nee|workHm.. I think someone is doing network transfers
10:33.43nee|workEverything is taking ages to load
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10:36.00NightHawkTheSaneyacoob: haha, if you havn't seen it, that's a lot like this: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000278.html
10:36.54nee|workgeez... Some student who has been working here for two days e-mailed everyone a form to be filled in. It should help improve communication. However, it's a horribly boring and VERY long form, with about 30 questions, a lot of them open too.. And the e-mail with the link itself is huge too, as if everyone here literally has an hour to spend on a form.
10:37.02nee|workNo wonder communication needs improving with such mails
10:37.24Fisker-lawl fags yacoob
10:37.25Fisker-:o
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10:42.54ravagernlI still can't get my headshot working
10:43.05ravagernlarrowmaster:ping
10:43.38Industrialravagernl: here gimme the gun
10:43.45Industrialill do it for you
10:43.52ravagernlhttp://pastey.net/9496 XD
10:43.56Industrial>:3
10:44.14ravagernlsomething is wrong with the event handler appearantly
10:44.17ravagernl[2007/03/28 12:41:29-484-x6]: Headshot\Headshot.lua:18: attempt to concatenate local 'event' (a table value)
10:44.57yacoobtbh, most of those image linking stuff can be blocked by checking referers
10:45.01yacoob(that can be of course faked ;)
10:45.05CIA-1103nymbia * r31177 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
10:45.05CIA-11PT3Bar:
10:45.06CIA-11- Use pairs() and not ipairs() for bindings so non-sequential ones work.
10:45.32CIA-1103nymbia * r31178 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
10:45.32CIA-11PT3Bar:
10:45.32CIA-11- Remove debug print
10:46.02ravagernlindustrial:any idea?
10:47.28Industrialum
10:48.01Industrialyeah line 17, event, the first argument.
10:48.09Industrialits a table not a string, apparently
10:48.13ravagernlo wait, that code is outdated already
10:48.13Industrialtry printing it
10:48.40ravagernlyeah I get an error on printing, thats the problem
10:48.51ravagernlhttp://pastey.net/9498
10:50.17ravagernlwhat is the slashcommand handler for /dump?
10:51.07nymbiaAceConsole:PrintLiteral()
10:51.44ravagernlthe funny thing is the error occurs every time i do an aimed shot
10:51.56ravagernlwhile i only registered for two events
10:54.37ravagernlby the way industrial, I have a bow, not a gun :P
10:54.56Fisker-I love pwning n00bs
10:55.12Fisker-"How do you know C&C3's DVD is 8GB big?"
10:55.38Fisker-Failing to realize that the person i quoted had written that the DVD was 8GB's big and yet the game was only 5,6GB big
10:55.39ravagernlcant even be 8gb lol
10:55.48Fisker-sure it can :o
10:56.02Fisker-well it's 7,6GB if i remember correctly
10:56.03Fisker-but close enough
10:56.10ravagernlhmm
10:57.50Fisker-you know duallayer dvd's?
10:58.13Fisker-bah
10:58.16Fisker-"MiniButtLib"
10:58.23Fisker-here i was expecting something totally else
11:00.04nee|worku ubstakkws rgw fNW RISt
11:00.16nee|work*I installed the game today :)
11:00.23nee|workcommand and conquer 3 that is :)
11:00.31NightHawkTheSanenee|work: lol, OBOE on your keyboard eh?
11:00.35Fisker-Didn't have to rewrite that
11:00.40Fisker-i knew what it meant
11:00.42nee|workoboe?
11:00.48NightHawkTheSaneoff by one error
11:00.57nee|workyup
11:01.05nee|workthe caps lock messed up the a it seems
11:01.19ravagernlwoot I found the problem
11:01.30Fisker-you suck?
11:01.35ravagernllol
11:01.50nee|work*rope
11:01.50ravagernlno i shouldnt pass parameters to event handlers
11:02.24Fisker-nahuh
11:02.28Fisker-gotta play GDI through
11:02.35Fisker-scrin doesn't become available before that :8
11:02.52Fisker-and i'm not getting the nerf scrin patch :P
11:02.58nee|workI'll do what they mentioned at gamespy - first play gdi until chapter 2, then play nod until chapter 2, then play gdi again, etc
11:03.03Fisker-Scrin are fucking awesome with teleporting MCV's/Engineers
11:03.24Fisker-Don't need to do it though
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11:03.33Fisker-The campaign is pretty much responding to each other
11:03.41nee|workI downloaded though, so no online play for me unless I really like it
11:03.57Fisker-getting my original copy tomorrow :P
11:04.10ravagernlnot going to buy it, ea's game support sucks
11:04.15Fisker-But you get like "Omg gdi just did this and that"
11:04.24Fisker-and in gdi "omg nod did this and that"
11:04.33ravagernlthey release a patch 4 months after an exploit is found
11:04.42Fisker-They released a patch today :P
11:04.54Fisker-which fixed an exploit btw
11:04.54Fisker-:D
11:05.11Fisker-More like balance issue though imo
11:05.14ravagernlnot surprising cause they are making money with it now
11:05.22ravagernlbut their long term support just sucks
11:05.26Fisker-With the Scrin commando you can teleport units
11:05.30ravagernl<3 blizzard
11:05.54Fisker-So someone came up with the idea to teleport engineers and then make them almost invulnerable(phase field superpower) and just let them go rampaging on the base
11:06.06Fisker-then pack the mcv and put a wormhole(superpower) to your own base
11:06.08Fisker-hoho
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11:06.34Fisker-but yeah it sucks
11:06.39Fisker-but they said they will change!
11:06.39Fisker-:P
11:06.55Fisker-anyways gonna play some more gdi
11:06.56Fisker-bai :o
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11:08.53CIA-1103ammo * r31179 10LockSmith/: LockSmith: folder created.
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11:09.55ravagernlvhaarr: locksmith?
11:10.28vhaarrravagernl: I'm not [Ammo]
11:10.46ravagernllol sorry :P
11:11.00ravagernl[ammo]: lcksmith hmm?
11:12.26[dRaCo]one button chest opening stuff, iirc
11:13.50CIA-1103ammo * r31180 10LockSmith/ (LockSmith.lua LockSmith.toc):
11:13.50CIA-11LockSmith: initial import
11:13.51CIA-11shows a lockpicking button that will unlock lockboxes you can unlock in your inventory.
11:13.51CIA-11contains bugs and lockboxes list is not complete yet.
11:13.51CIA-11Not entirely ready for use.
11:13.51CIA-11Oh and it spams when casting spells.
11:14.47knarf-someone mentioned something about grid showing who is healing who by drawing lines to the other frames, does such a module exist?
11:15.02ravagernlyaaayyyy headshot
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11:17.23nee|workknarf-: Ask that someone?
11:17.30cncfanaticsomg
11:17.36cncfanaticswtf ? gold seller adds on wowace ? :/
11:17.51knarf-nee|work can't remember who it was :P
11:18.25nee|workknarf-: Well, he or she might have been the creator of that feature, without sharing it with anyone, just mentioning it in passing, so then you'd have nothing ;)
11:19.13ravagernlvhaarr: I got my headshot addon working :P
11:19.27knarf-well I think it sounded brilliant :)
11:19.33vhaarrravagernl: goody
11:19.35ravagernlthe event handler was wrong, I changed it to pass no parameters
11:19.53knarf-what does healers need to have installed for grid to know what they are casting ?
11:20.37nee|workknarf-: I think grid doesn't need anything installed, but it only tracks incoming heals.
11:21.46ravagernlknarf: gridstaushealer is what you want probably
11:22.00knarf-for grid to track incomming heals would it not need the healers to send information about who they are healing ?
11:22.26knarf-well its more because not all healers have grid installed :)
11:22.40knarf-and i'd like for the heal tracking to work even though they have not grid installed :)
11:22.53ravagernlah i see you want to know who is being healed
11:23.07nee|workknarf - do you know autsider?
11:23.07ravagernlthat works if they dont have grid installed
11:23.31knarf-i'm a priest myself, and it would be ace if I can see the maintank is recieving heals :P
11:23.47knarf-it would be even more cool if you could see who is healing him :)
11:23.55knarf-but that is not that important :)
11:24.04nee|workI'm a priest too
11:24.38nee|workBut I haven't played much in weeks, only a few hours on my druid.
11:25.01knarf-well i'm still not really using grid, but i'd like to use it once I have it configured
11:25.36nee|workwoo, my urbandictionary entry still exists. on to five years ;)
11:25.52nee|workhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=neenee
11:25.53knarf-Ahh well i'm gonna go home now, free at last !
11:26.06knarf-c ya around
11:26.13nee|workcya
11:26.20nee|workI'm free in 35 minutes
11:28.28cncfanatics~seen ckknight
11:28.51purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 44m 12s ago, saying: 'I live in Hawaii, so the situation's strange'.
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11:31.02ravagernlweird, ckknight lives in hawai, still he works inside on addons :P
11:31.53nymbiai'd never go outside if i lived in hawaii... too hot
11:31.55NightHawkTheSanethe sun is bright, it burns us.
11:32.11Fisker-yeeeeees
11:32.12Fisker-yeeeeeeeeeeees
11:32.14Fisker-buuuuuuuuurn
11:34.32Fisker-hahahahaha
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11:41.00nee|work*sun, not run
11:43.41nee|workI think I'll get some easter eggs on my way home.
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11:43.48CIA-1103ammo * r31181 10LockSmith/LockSmith.lua: LockSmith: added more or less complete list of lockboxes and skillevels guessed or taken from wowwiki
11:46.01cncfanaticscould anyone tell me who usualy sets up the wowace webbie ? kaelten right ?
11:46.13[Ammo]he added the adds
11:46.16[Ammo]to pay for the server
11:46.22[Ammo]read the mainpage line with the gold icon
11:47.21cncfanaticsI can understand that, but why GOLDSELLER adds ? :s
11:47.34cncfanaticssec, lemme read heh :;)
11:47.55[Ammo]reading gives enlightenment
11:48.28cncfanatics:) indeed
11:53.25JoshBorkenot that anyone ever clicks on them
11:53.37JoshBorkeheh: "Wow Prom dress"
11:54.44cncfanaticsbleh, exam tomorrow, must ... learn ...
11:56.34CIA-1103ammo * r31182 10LockSmith/LockSmith.lua: LockSmith: add the crafted practice lock
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12:07.26CIA-1103ammo * r31183 10LockSmith/LockSmith.lua: LockSmith: remove spam. should work correctly now
12:08.41cncfanaticsanyone very familiar with waterfall around ?
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12:09.48JoshBorkedoesn't it just parse toh ace options table?
12:10.02[Ammo]yeah it can do that
12:10.06[Ammo]but you can also feed it a manual table
12:10.10[Ammo]the wiki is quite clear
12:10.17cncfanaticsreading it atm
12:10.23cncfanaticsand wondering about what it can and cannot do
12:10.29cncfanaticsbut lemme finish my read before I ask questions
12:10.37[Ammo]it can do what dewdrop and console can
12:10.46[Ammo]so you just feed an AceOptions table and you're done
12:10.47JoshBorkeso no toast?
12:11.00[Ammo]no kitchensink either :(
12:11.01cncfanaticsit can't do any more ? :(
12:11.11cncfanaticsgot tons of fancy stuff i'd want it to do tbh
12:11.11JoshBorkethat's ok, i already have a kitchensink
12:11.14NightHawkTheSanewell, if waterfall cant give me the kitchen sink, it must suck
12:11.30[Ammo]cncfanatics: you can configure all the controls manually
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12:11.45cncfanatics[Ammo], ok :) I'm guessing its quite a pain though ?
12:11.50JoshBorkefix it so my machine doesn't cry when i pull up prat
12:12.02[Ammo]ofcourse, so just feed it your aceoptions table
12:12.30cncfanaticsbleh, aceoptions tables are quite limited in some situations
12:12.41[Ammo]then you're using them wrong
12:13.00cncfanaticsI am ? :o
12:13.03[Ammo]since you can alter anything about the table on the fly
12:13.14[Ammo]and waterfall/dew/console will update accrodingly
12:13.16MoonWolfthere is not a situation i have encountered that did not fit a aceoption.
12:13.27cncfanaticswill try harder then :)
12:13.47[Ammo]but I'm guessing this is about flexbar2?
12:13.53cncfanaticsit is indeed
12:14.05[Ammo]you'll just have to let go of the old flexbar commandline structure
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12:14.15cncfanaticsindeed, that makes me sad :(
12:14.24cncfanaticsI liked those commands :
12:14.25[Ammo]it was sucky anyway :p
12:14.31cncfanatics:(
12:14.33MoonWolfwell, it was powerfull
12:14.35MoonWolfif you could use it.
12:14.42cncfanaticsplanning to make both a GUI & command line interface
12:14.52cncfanaticsand an aceoptions for a command line interface ala flexbar is rly bad
12:15.03[Ammo]why would it be bad?
12:15.26cncfanaticsu can't get anything like name = value  othername = othervalue with aceoptions in a commline
12:15.37cncfanaticsexcept parsing it myself, which kinda defeats the purpose :p
12:16.14[Ammo]that's why I said let go of the old flexbar commandline
12:16.18[Ammo]or just write your own parser and gui
12:16.30cncfanaticsgui is very nice for with aceoptions
12:16.35cncfanaticsbut how wld u make the command lines ?
12:16.41[Ammo]it would work the same
12:16.47[Ammo]you just would toggle things one at the time
12:16.50[Ammo]and not all at once
12:17.02[Ammo]99% of the people will use the GUI anyway
12:17.08[Ammo]provided it works properly ofcours
12:17.44cncfanaticssetting up events in command lines could be quite anoying with the aceoptions command line style
12:17.58[Ammo]but it would work easily in the GUI
12:18.01cncfanaticstrue
12:19.14cncfanaticsplanning to start with the GUI when I worked out some stuff
12:19.14[Ammo]you can even only do the GUI and just dump the commandline
12:19.14[Ammo]and make /fb2 just open the gui
12:19.14cncfanaticsI won't do that
12:19.14cncfanaticssome ppl just like command lines (me included)
12:19.25cncfanaticswill probably make my own parser for slashcommands, LoD
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12:20.05manubhi there, anyone getting this while accepting quest with the new QuestsFu? http://ace.pastey.net/9506
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12:20.53cncfanaticsmanub, never got that
12:21.02kenlyricis this a known bug? [2007/03/28 08:16:06-22-x1]: AceOO-2.0-25921 (FuBar):723: AceModuleCore-2.0: OnInstanceInit cannot be called twice AceModuleCore-2.0-30830:413: in main chunk
12:21.18manubI started getting this in one of the last updates, no way to accept new quests
12:21.18cncfanaticskenlyric, install standalone Ace2
12:21.18kenlyricmanub, no, questfu is one of the mods actually working for me :)
12:21.44kenlyriccncfanatics: forever, or is this some sort of known bug?
12:21.45manubany suggestions on how to fix that? ^^
12:21.47cncfanaticsinstall standalone ace2 and u'll be fine, it seems there are some anoyances with embeds atm
12:22.00kenlyricok
12:22.13cncfanaticskenlyric, I don't really know, but someone got me to install standalone ace2 and everything worked again
12:22.18cncfanaticssome library loading twice I get
12:22.56manubI also tried to clean my mods with using the skip version check and delete before extracting but it still doesn't work
12:23.04kenlyricthat's fun. I really should learn to do standalone anyway... 87 mods and counting.
12:23.15cncfanaticsrly shldnt matter tbh
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12:23.21cncfanaticsI prefer embed, no need to manage anything myself
12:23.39kenlyricyeah, I know, but backing up to my usb drive can take a while.
12:23.46cncfanaticsoh hehe
12:24.37manubehehe
12:25.08manubso, the only way to handle with this error for me is disabling the mod? :(
12:27.41cncfanaticsmanub, even that won't help if u got the same type of problem as I had
12:27.41cncfanaticsstandalone ace2 didnt get u rid of the error ?
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12:27.42kenlyricI still can't believe that evil woman julianne didn't drop my robe.
12:27.42manubtrying to install it now :)
12:27.42kenlyriccurse you!
12:27.42manubthe cloth robe?
12:27.42kenlyricer, her
12:27.42kenlyricthe spirit whore one :)
12:27.42manubehehe
12:27.42knarf-kenlyric hmm did you mention something about grid yesterday with a line being drawn to who was healing who?
12:27.43manubI passed it to a druid poorly equipped :P
12:27.43kenlyricknarf-: yes, I did.
12:27.43knarf-does it exist ?
12:27.43kenlyricthat's my dream grid
12:27.43kenlyricso, no
12:27.43cncfanaticskenlyric, go code it ? :p
12:28.16kenlyricI don't even know if it's possible.
12:28.16cncfanaticsI'd like that too tbh
12:28.16cncfanaticsshould be, its drawing
12:28.17knarf-kenlyric I guess it requires Castcomm
12:28.17cncfanaticscould also parse the combatlog ?
12:28.24knarf-cncfanatics range :)
12:28.27[Ammo]you can't
12:28.33[Ammo]since you don't know who is starting to cast on whom
12:28.33kenlyrichowever grid knows that a player has an incoming heal.
12:28.41[Ammo]kenlyric: that's with the castcomm one
12:28.48cncfanatics:o, indeed
12:28.55cncfanaticscould only see when the heal lands with combatlog
12:28.58manubcncfanatics, still doesn't work... I really don't know what's happening
12:29.01knarf-i sRaidFrames is "healtracking enabled" the same as CastComm ?
12:29.04cncfanaticsknarf-, the combatlog can have an insane range though
12:29.20knarf-cncfanatics would be silly to increase the range just for that :)
12:29.28kenlyricquestfu appears to be horked for me too.
12:29.28cncfanaticsmanub, I had similar problems 2 days ago
12:29.29xlviidoes anyone know of a site with abstract (preferably black and white / sepia) photography?
12:29.29knarf-cncfanatics and you would not know it before it has hit :)
12:29.32cncfanaticsinstalling standalone fixed it
12:30.00manubyou mean installing fubar_questsfu
12:30.03manubwithout ext, right?
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12:30.10kenlyricintalling Ace2 fixed my other errors, but I'm still getting one on init for questfu, so it's likely unrelated.
12:30.11cncfanaticsno
12:30.13manubor am I making some imba confusion? ^^
12:30.20cncfanaticsmanub, install the Ace2 addon
12:30.28manubdid it.
12:30.29cncfanaticsone sec
12:30.32manub*did it..
12:30.35kenlyricno, his problem isn't related to my problem :)
12:30.47cncfanaticsconfusion ftl
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12:30.55manubit's only a givers issue, no other problems
12:31.17cncfanaticsI just updated questfu
12:31.17cncfanaticslemme try
12:31.17manubok ty
12:32.03kenlyricyeah, every time I hover over the fubar entry i throws an error, or if I try to watcha  quest
12:32.17manubthis was bugged some days ago for me too
12:32.33kenlyriclol, I can't even accept quests.
12:32.34manubalso trying to move the watcher
12:32.43kenlyricsame exact error as you manub.
12:32.47manubyou press ALT, drag it, and when you release ALT you are still dragging the tracker :)
12:32.53manubbut now this was fixed
12:33.15manubso I think the new questsfu it's broken
12:34.16kenlyricif I had to take a stab, I'd go with r31129
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12:34.53doktoreasis there an addon updated for linux?
12:35.15manub*updater?
12:35.20cncfanaticsdoktoreas, WUU
12:35.24doktoreasyeah sorry :D
12:35.26manub:P
12:35.30doktoreaswuu
12:35.31doktoreas?
12:35.33Fisker-Windows Unix Updater?
12:35.35Fisker-Oh wait
12:35.59cncfanaticswow something updater
12:36.08manubkenlyric, how to download older versions? tried www.wowace.com/files but there's a link to last version
12:36.09knarf-wsu ?
12:36.20kenlyricwell, go into the directory that link goes to :)
12:36.36kenlyricaka, cut out the filename
12:36.40JoshBorkeFisker-: nice
12:37.07manuby
12:37.08kenlyricnot sure if that will help, but I did notice the update after that touched a lot of files and had to do with localization.
12:37.10manubdid it, reloading now
12:37.19doktoreasFisker-, where can i download it?
12:37.23cncfanaticsdoktoreas, i'm using it atm, u can find ot somewhere on the ace forums
12:37.27Fisker-I don't know
12:37.33doktoreascncfanatics, thank you
12:38.10kenlyricnow that I have a steady stable of nonace mods, I should switch to wuu
12:38.30kenlyricand of course, that blasted ace mod I have which isn't on the SVN.
12:38.44kenlyricthat's probably what's horking my ace libs
12:39.08cncfanaticswuu supports ace, curse, wowi, uiwar and pretty much any website around
12:39.11kenlyricmanub, that worked for me. error free.
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12:40.01manubyeah
12:40.14Fisker-gonna fucking rape vsftpd
12:40.19Fisker-gonna play some C&C3 instead
12:40.23manubI can't move the tracker but it's less important
12:40.31manubrather than accepting quests :P
12:40.39cncfanaticsmanub, force it to move ? :p
12:40.41cncfanaticsjust changed the savedvars
12:40.44cncfanaticsand then reloadui :p
12:40.54knarf-soo the gridmodule hots thingymagic does it in fact work ?
12:40.54kenlyricthat's odd... I can move it just fine.
12:41.05evlAnyway to comment out strings in a WTF file?
12:41.17RoyalI was wondering, are there any new Autobar-like addons? - Haven't played for 2 months, so didn't keep up-to-date addno-wise!
12:41.30kenlyricthere's autobar.
12:41.37kenlyricI understand it's very autobar-like
12:41.38cncfanaticsRoyal, with autobar like u mean autobarlike or actionbar addons ? :p
12:41.55RoyalI mean, autobar - like configured category buttons
12:42.02RoyalYou know, autobar :p
12:42.04manubkenlyric, I can move it now... thanks :P
12:42.11cncfanaticsRoyal, there's autobar -.-
12:42.23RoyalSmart bars - which auto-update the button depending on a lot of factors etc
12:42.32RoyalYeah ofc.. but im asking if anything similar got released :p
12:42.42cncfanaticsnot that I know off :(
12:42.47Royalall right
12:42.51NightHawkTheSaneNothing that really does quite what autobar does. And autobar still works reasonably well
12:43.14cncfanaticsits not too bad I guess
12:43.20cncfanaticsI use it myself mainly coz of lazyness
12:43.31cncfanaticscld configure flexbar2 to do the same but I cba with it untill lvl 70
12:43.37kenlyricI've never understood its use enough to try it.
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12:43.41NightHawkTheSanedepending on what you want from it, it's either annoyingly bad, or rather nice.
12:43.42RoyalYeah ofc, it still works etc but I noticed a lot of -weird- stuff with it ^^
12:44.13cncfanaticsjust some confi bar where all ur consumables appear
12:44.15kenlyricI keep forgetting about ghost wolf form.
12:44.17NightHawkTheSaneRoyal: the only significant "issue" with autobar is the fact that it can't dynamically update its buttons in combat. That's a limit of the wow api, though
12:44.18kenlyriccasting time FTL
12:44.30RoyalLike borders appearing/disappearing, buttons not updating (especially with healing pots), or when I hit a keybind for healing pot it isnt "used/casted"
12:45.09RoyalAh I see, well I was wondering since I noticed the "Show popup menu on SHIFT"- function wasnt working, and I knew it wasnt working like 3 months ago :P Was wondering if there was maybe a new addon that replaced autobar
12:47.00cncfanaticshmmm, where did my questfu tracker go ?
12:48.44kenlyricdid you update? :)
12:49.06cncfanaticsjust did yea
12:49.14cncfanaticsjust hit detach tablet, and problem fixed :p
12:49.18kenlyricroll back to r31129
12:49.21cncfanaticsI like the tablet better then the actual tracker anyway
12:49.38kenlyricstrange you aren't getting the other errors.
12:49.48cncfanaticsgot no errors on bugsack
12:51.53vid`hey chuckg if you are there, i was getting taint errors from cgCrafty when trying to apply wizard oil on a weapon that already has wizard oil on it during combat last night. might be due to that fast enchant stuff where it automatically says yes to overwrite enc
12:52.07vid`i didnt really get a chance to test due to the fact that i was in middle of a boss fight and didnt have time to mess with it
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13:21.34cncfanaticssince when did questfu not put quest objectives in the tooltip ?
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13:37.48kenlyricdo I need to do something to yata when I get a new totem?
13:38.58[dRaCo]usually not
13:39.22[dRaCo]sometimes it doesn't recognize the new totem, but after a relog everything should be fine
13:39.46ilifinnot just sometimes
13:39.56ilifinevery time you level up you'll need to relog or reloadui
13:40.02ilifinor yata gets messed up
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13:44.08Tornhoofyou shoudl relog after reskill/levelup
13:44.12Tornhoofor console reloadui
13:45.13Mikmayay postal error <3
13:46.13Tornhoofi never managed to get a check for that properly working, the "LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB" sometimes just does not work for some reason
13:46.48MikmaPostalLib-1.0.lia:36: attempt to index local 'msgSubject' (a nil value) . trying to open White Spider Meat (10) :D
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13:48.03sbuoh Mikma is back :o
13:48.14Mikmai'm afraid so
13:48.25Mikmaatleast for a month
13:48.50HealthWhat's up in a month?
13:52.48Punkie`zomg, nice
13:52.55Punkie`http://www.lootzor.com
13:53.56MikmaHealth: prepaid
13:54.24Health<PROTECTED>
13:56.40sbuprepaid life?
13:56.48Fisker-WHAT THE FUCK Punkie`
13:56.50Fisker-IS THIS SHIT
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13:58.44sbuheh
13:58.54sbunice... really nice
13:59.36sbubut mana-regen prio isnt that good
13:59.57Punkie`~whalecrit Fisker-
14:00.14purlACTION crits Fisker- with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Fisker- dies
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14:05.08ilifinok what the deal with this; [2007/03/28 15:47:54-1328-x1]: Cartographer_Waypoints-2.0\CorpsePoint.lua:17: AceLocale(Cartographer-CorpsePoint): Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice.
14:05.17ilifingetting that for CorpsePoint and Waypoint
14:06.12[Ammo]you probably have waypoints installed seperately and as a module inside carto
14:06.17[Ammo]which is wrong
14:06.42deltronmy coworker has 4/5 T4 :(
14:06.53Mikmacow orker
14:06.58sbu0/5 here :o
14:07.06GagorianZealotOnAStick: pong
14:07.30sbuand my gf has 2/5 :o
14:09.36[Ammo]I have 0/5
14:09.41[Ammo]but I have [Ruby Slippers]
14:09.48[Ammo]which is all you need
14:10.11Loki|muh0/5 and I give a shit :)
14:10.12sbuwell... since the use is not instant anymore its no fun :/
14:11.05Fisker-ruby slippers suck now :(
14:11.58deltroni almost got them
14:12.00deltron:P
14:12.11deltronI passed it to a feral druid though :P
14:13.30deltronwe downed romulo & julianne last night, that was fun
14:13.43deltrononly the 2nd time we've had them
14:13.55Mikmai downed my wife last night, it was fun too ;)
14:14.03deltrono_O
14:14.13sbuhah.. i really missed those comments Mikma :o
14:14.14deltrondid you get any decent loot?
14:14.24Mikmadeltron: artifact..
14:15.16CIA-1103rabbit * r31184 10BigWigs/SC/Karathress.lua: BigWigs: Karathress: deDE, thanks Radon!
14:23.30StephmwAmmo: you mean you looted the mythical 13[Red Slippers]?
14:24.03vhaarrThey rocked pre-nerf.
14:24.23Fisker-I am the creator
14:24.26Loki|muhthey had a 60 minute cooldown as well?
14:24.29Fisker-it's not red slippers
14:24.33Fisker-it's ruby slippers
14:24.38Fisker-Loki|muh it was shared with hearthstone
14:24.43[Ammo]they were basically your hearthstone
14:24.45[Ammo]but with instantcast
14:24.45Fisker-But it was instant cast
14:24.49[Ammo]shared cooldown
14:24.54Loki|muhthats nice
14:25.02Fisker-would've been the ultimate paladin tool
14:25.05[Ammo]but now they have the same casting time
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14:25.11StephmwFisker-: ah, yes, my mistake
14:25.12Punkie`Thanks for the in-depth report Fisker-
14:25.14Fisker-and still shared cooldown :(
14:25.15deltronlol Fisker-
14:25.24deltronshaman have 2 hearthstones :)
14:25.30Fisker-5!
14:25.32Stephmwthankfully not instacasts
14:25.40Loki|muh:)
14:25.41deltronthe one in the bag, and one in their spellbook
14:25.56deltronLoki|muh: you know you can request one from an inkeeper right?
14:25.57deltronheh
14:26.16Loki|muhdeltron: sure but takes a slot of my bags ;)
14:26.25Fisker-B&!
14:26.30deltronhaxx
14:26.41Loki|muhi guess blizz would do me a favor if the would ban me :)
14:26.42Fisker-I need a 64x64 image that's cruise control for awesome
14:28.05deltronmy avatar I use is 90x90 :(
14:28.42deltronkernel upgrade!
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14:36.08Punkie`Fisker-, did you find an awesome avatar yet?
14:39.12knarf-can grid show the number of ticks left on your prayer of mending ?
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14:43.30Mikmarock me amadeo
14:43.46Amadeo*rocks*
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14:46.16Fisker-no Punkie`
14:46.19AmadeoI need to find a tallying calculator program for the PC!
14:51.51Fisker-holy shit vhaarr :O
14:51.58vhaarro_O
14:52.26vhaarrwhat did I do this time?
14:52.35JJSheetslol
14:52.38Fisker-there's rumors on the internets
14:52.56vhaarroh noes
14:53.00JJSheetsintarweb you mean
14:53.09Fisker-NAH
14:53.13Fisker-nah*
14:53.16JJSheetsinnerweb?
14:53.21Fisker-apparently knot-chan comitted suicide :O
14:53.34JJSheetsbwahahahahahahhahaha
14:54.27Tornhoofwho?
14:54.55JJSheetsknot-chan, fatty dog funker.
14:54.58Icerothanyone familiar with EBBs? how do i disable target bars?
14:56.17DaemonaTrying to accept a quest in Bloodelf start area
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14:56.33Daemonagives me an error in fubar-questsfu AND prevents meto accept it :X
14:56.39Daemonahttp://wowace.pastey.net/9541
14:57.03CIA-1103toadkiller * r31185 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua:
14:57.03CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0
14:57.03CIA-11-- 21151:15 Rumsey Rum Black Label
15:02.16AmadeoSo, I finally got around to comparing Warmup numbers for SCT/SCTD and MSBT
15:02.20AmadeoI know it's not the complete story, but I was curious :)
15:03.00AmadeoI get about 250KiB for MSBT and about 190KiB for SCT + SCTD
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15:07.20AmadeoNow to see if I can somehow crudely compare increasing rate :P
15:09.06vhaarrif you take a look at the MSBT code, you won't be very impressed
15:09.35vhaarrthen again, SCT won't impress you either
15:09.40Amadeohaha
15:09.57AmadeoI'm not impressed by any code, since I don't know wtf I'm looking at ;)
15:10.25JJSheetslol
15:10.47CIA-1103gagorian * r31186 10DrDamage/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
15:10.47CIA-11DrDamage:
15:10.47CIA-11-Added instant cast property to corresponding spells for correct DPS/DPSC/HPS/HPSC calculation under the effect of bloodlust/heroism/spell haste
15:11.18JoshBorkevhaarr: you should just write one :-D
15:11.42vhaarrJoshBorke: nah, I have enough unfinished things to work on
15:11.58JoshBorkeviolation can wait
15:12.03JoshBorkeno one ACTUALLY wants that
15:12.15knarf-so is WUU amazing compared to WAU ? :>
15:13.16MikmaYES! it's the best thing this world has ever seen!!!
15:13.17JJSheetsem... violation isn't finished enough?  :p
15:13.26AmadeoWell, my crude way of testing increasing rate doesn't work too well, because I can't really notice a difference between MSBT or SCT :)
15:13.42MikmaAmadeo: there there, have some snickers
15:13.57Amadeo*snickers* *snickers*
15:13.58Mikmait's ok, you just suck
15:14.03JJSheetswell I'm off to work... adios.   :)
15:14.54Mikmaok let me axx you one question. Why the fuck does AltClickToAddItem use 5 libraries? are they really needed for a thing like that
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15:15.44vhaarrno, they are not
15:16.35Arrowmasterit doesnt actually use aceevent
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15:17.27Mikmareally simple thing like that with 5 libraries. i just don't get it
15:18.04Mikmaanyone want's to code my MiniBar? :P
15:18.05vhaarrMikma: rewrite it to use 0
15:18.17Mikmavhaarr: was just about to write "i forgot lua"
15:18.22vhaarr:D
15:18.30Mikmavhaarr: i'll rather use ctmailmod ;)
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15:19.43Mikmapostal doesn't really work in some situations. it's just so damn slow to open mails from box
15:20.13vhaarrit has a builtin 1 second delay between mails
15:20.17vhaarrit's not very good indeed
15:20.26Mikmaand sometimes it just doesn't even start to open the mails at all
15:20.51Mikmait just sits and watches my mailbox. fear is in the eyes of beholder
15:21.02shieldbI find that's usually server lag, not postal weirding out
15:21.17shieldbbecause I'll run away from the mailbox and back and I can't seem to open mail manually when that's going on, either
15:22.41Mikmashieldb: i've never had that problem before with other addons
15:22.50Mikmapostal is the onlyone that doesn't wanna open my mails
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15:23.30shieldbyeah not saying it couldn't be postal, it just didn't seem like it to me for that particular problem
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15:23.58shieldbIt very well could be postal, I haven't done much real testing on it
15:24.41Punkie`I'm still using the old GMail for some reason :|
15:24.43Mikmai'm thinking of testing ctmaildmod too
15:25.12Punkie`I don't know if that's bad, has anyone tried Postman?
15:26.22revvAnyone happen to know the URL where the archives of this channel can be found?
15:26.30Arrowmaster~logs
15:26.31purlrumour has it, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
15:26.38revvThanks  :)
15:27.07Punkie`I think Ammo told me off for using the old GMail, I don't remember why :(
15:27.24kenlyriceh, that's just ammo
15:27.51[Ammo]gmail = ctmailmod
15:27.54kenlyricI use postal.
15:27.55[Ammo]so just use ctmailmod
15:27.58[Ammo]or use postal
15:28.00[Ammo]or use nothing
15:28.04Punkie`why tickle ammo when you can: http://www.booncontrol.com/ammo2.jpg him
15:28.16Punkie`so noone has used postman?
15:28.16kenlyricI don't remember what I liked about it over postman, but there was something.
15:28.22kenlyricslight bit of usefulness
15:28.38Arrowmasteronly mail mod i use is offlinemail
15:28.55Fisker-http://www.sexwork.com/family/dolphins1.html <-Great read
15:29.01Fisker-If you want to have sex with dolphins that is
15:29.42Mikmahmm
15:29.46MoonWolfonly for sick people.
15:29.52MoonWolfi try to stick to interspecies sex.
15:29.58Mikma_neuron_: yo?
15:30.05_neuron_Mikma, sup
15:30.35Mikma_neuron_: i can't quite figure out how to change the objectives textsize. zone i was able to find
15:30.35shieldbMoonWolf, don't you mean intraspecies?
15:30.38shieldbheh
15:30.50art3misin·ter·spe·cies      /??nt?r?spi?iz, -siz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-ter-spee-sheez, -seez] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
15:30.50art3mis–adjective
15:30.50art3misexisting or occurring between species.
15:31.19art3misi do not think that word means what you think it means ;P
15:31.21MoonWolfhmm
15:31.21MoonWolfyes
15:31.28MoonWolf:P
15:31.28_neuron_Mikma, that's under minion -> textsize... should move that really
15:31.49Mikma_neuron_: thanks love
15:32.19Mikma_neuron_: checked out the MonkeyQuest v3 video?
15:32.42Mikma_neuron_:  && svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/
15:32.43shieldbthere's an addon video? o_0
15:32.45Mikmawhops
15:32.52Mikmahttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3023310464451625415&hl=en-CA
15:32.57Mikmathere ya go
15:33.14_neuron_nope Mikma, hadn't seen it
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15:33.56Fisker-lol wut
15:33.56_neuron_hm, that glowy thing is kinda fancy
15:34.08art3misoooo fixed height minion!
15:34.12Mikmayeah
15:34.20Mikmathat's what i've been asking before ;)
15:34.26art3misive been trying to force neuron to do that for a while ;P
15:34.36art3misi had it working kind of hacky with questsfu
15:34.44art3misbut it doesnt auto update
15:34.47Fisker-shouldn't be too hard
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15:35.29MikmaFisker-: but they say it is
15:36.44art3misbasically you just need to know where the frames are made and convert them to scrolly text
15:37.22art3misfor my "hack" i had to make a detached fubarplugin hack and convert questfu to use the hacked library that has the height fixed
15:37.44art3misdownside is that while that loaded and ran fine it refused to auto update when goals were met
15:38.48art3misalthough i suppose technically now i could just get monkeyquest
15:39.00art3misand problem is solved ;P
15:39.10Mikmawell monkeyquest v3 isn't out yet
15:39.21art3misoh
15:40.15_neuron_I might actually look at it later today, we were gonna do gruul today but some of the guildies have been hacked so I dunno if it'll happen :/
15:40.17[Ammo]anyone got a rogue and has a locked lockbox and willing to test LockSmith :)
15:40.26[Ammo]I ran out of lockboxes before my last commits :p
15:40.48art3misquick! run to the pirate ship!
15:41.20art3misheh looked at pitbull last night
15:41.36art3misdidnt use it cuz for some reason it didnt want to make any unitframes for me
15:41.46vhaarr[Ammo]: just pickpocket lots of mobs
15:41.50Mikmadid for me but 3D portrait is missing ;)
15:41.56[Ammo]vhaarr: I know :)
15:42.01[Ammo]but no stuff installed at work
15:42.02[Ammo]no macros
15:42.05[Ammo]no button setup )
15:42.29[Ammo]but it should work
15:42.30Mikma[Ammo]: what are you willing to do for me if i test it?
15:42.40[Ammo]I'll be willing to hate you harder
15:42.52Mikmaok then i won't test it
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15:43.04[Ammo]haha
15:43.07Mikmai'll put my bloodhound on your ass
15:43.21Fisker-_neuron_ take a fucking look at recommend players too
15:43.23[Ammo]oh nice
15:43.32Mikma[Ammo]: http://irc-galleria.net/view.php?nick=Mikma&image_id=55857565
15:43.35_neuron_Fisker-, suggested players work fine you mutt
15:43.46[Ammo]do I really want to click on that mikma
15:43.51[Ammo]probably not safe for work
15:43.54shieldbOH GOD
15:43.54[Ammo]since it contains your nick
15:44.02Mikma[Ammo]: irc-gallery
15:44.08Mikmathat's what the url says
15:44.17shieldboh wait, it's just a dog with a stuffed animal
15:44.51art3miswhos the fat kid with the buzzcut?
15:45.05Mikmayo mamma
15:45.20art3misnah my moms at least 15 times that size
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15:45.30art3misher and ckk trade mu mu's ;P
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15:48.18knarf-does the mod GMail still exists?
15:48.50Mikma[Ammo]: just for you, i will start to put my urls through http://hugeurl.com/
15:49.17Daemona[Ammo] what does locksmith do?
15:49.25Daemona;)
15:49.57CIA-1103shieldb * r31187 10Incubator/ (. Core.lua Incubator.toc Locale-deDE.lua): Incubator: Default options change, update externals, only check to track respawns inside zones (drycode), deDE update
15:49.57Mikmals
15:50.08CIA-1103ammo * r31188 10LockSmith/ (LockSmith.toc libs/): LockSmith: add teh libs
15:50.11Mikmarm -rf /
15:50.20Mikmayeah, as you might guess, wrong window
15:50.27[Ammo]Daemona: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5452.0
15:51.00knarf-Is there any mailmod wich has the functions GMail did ?
15:51.03Daemonaif it doent have a unlock button in the tradewindow i dont need it ;)
15:51.19[Ammo]that part I haven't figured out yet :p
15:51.28Punkie`knarf-: ctmailmod?
15:51.32[Ammo]at least I can now spam unlock the lockboxes I have in my inventory
15:51.41Daemona[Ammo] have a look at easyunlock
15:51.47knarf-Punkie` I kinda went from ctmailmod to Gmail ^^
15:51.58[Ammo]gmail == ctmailmod
15:52.00[Ammo]bonkj
15:52.05[Ammo]it was a direct copy ripoff
15:52.09[Ammo]that's why it's been removed
15:52.18Fisker-http://store.pchome.com.tw/nbking/M00643081.htm <-lmao
15:52.18shieldbDaemona, is there a version of easyunlock that's been updated since 2.0?
15:52.33[Ammo]I checked easyunlock
15:52.37[Ammo]and it's not 2.0 complient
15:52.39knarf-What about that Postal mod then ?
15:52.40Daemonashieldb no, thats why i asked [Ammo] to add it to locksmith ;)
15:53.12MikmaFisker-: i don't get it
15:53.14shieldbI just see references all over the place to easyunlock so I keep thinking there's some secret location I'm overlooking
15:53.31shieldbFisker-, bahahah
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15:54.03Fisker-that's because you are stupid Mikma!
15:54.04Fisker-:P
15:54.10MikmaFisker-: what's that?
15:54.41Fisker-reaction guys
15:54.50Fisker-a meme on 4chan.org
15:56.04Fisker-http://www.lurkmore.com/$rand/huh/4guys/4guyshelicopter.jpg
15:57.32Mikmathat's like, more stupid than normal
15:57.49CIA-1103ammo * r31189 10LockSmith/ (LockSmith.toc libs/): LockSmith: add acelocale
15:58.10Fisker-nahuh
15:58.18Mikmaumh
15:58.30Mikmawhen i mouseover things in chat, i see a popup. what addon makes that? ;)
15:59.35[Ammo]tekCompare?
15:59.51[Ammo]as I guess you're using that addon
15:59.58Mikmayeah, that.
16:00.04Mikmasweet :)
16:00.07[Ammo]damn I'm pro :p
16:00.11[Ammo]you owe me now
16:00.18Mikmaso, what addon pops up a box when i rightclick a name in chat?
16:00.18Nickenyfikenhehe
16:00.33[Ammo]isn't that default behaviour?
16:00.36Mikmadunno
16:00.37Lysitheauh, that's default?
16:00.37Mikmasince when
16:00.39Nickenyfikenbox with what?
16:00.48Mikma(not played for 3 months)
16:00.49Tornhoofpr0n?
16:00.51Amadeo[Ammo]: Is there an option in Necro2 that lets you tie the buttons together for movement?
16:01.01Lysitheainvite whisper etc = default afaik
16:01.03[Ammo]Amadeo: nope
16:01.05Amadeokk
16:01.05Nickenyfikenbox when you click items is default
16:01.09[Ammo]but I'm going to drastically change necron2
16:01.22Amadeooh?
16:01.40[Ammo]I'm going to let you point out normal action buttons and set them as specific necro2 buttons
16:02.20[Ammo]so you can just pick any button on any of your action bars and it becomes for instance your healthstone button
16:02.26[Ammo]with trading, cooldowns the works
16:02.27art3misyeah pitbull doesnt show me ANY unitframes
16:02.30AmadeoI see
16:02.45art3misand as per usual for ckk's coding he doesnt have any comments for / commands ;P
16:02.52[Ammo]type: /pit
16:02.59[Ammo]it's the only / command ther is
16:03.02[Ammo]it shows a dewdrop
16:03.06Amadeobut doesn't that mean you have to have it on your action bars in order to have it on Necron2?
16:03.07[Ammo]with a few options
16:03.22[Ammo]Amadeo: well I might still provide the old buttons as well
16:03.32Amadeo:)
16:03.33[Ammo]but I think saving up space by putting it on the action bars is a good idea
16:04.24[Ammo]saves me having to code the keybinding stuff as well :p
16:04.27Amadeohehe
16:04.44Amadeowhat about just adding the features to the bar itself?
16:04.51[Ammo]in fact, I think I'll make LockSmith do the same
16:05.00[Ammo]hook your actionbutton that contains the Pick Lock skill :p
16:05.03Mikmapitbull is shit. need to be coded
16:05.19Mikmas/need/needs/
16:05.22[Ammo]but that woul dmean it has to work on the trading thing  as well etc :)
16:05.28Amadeoyeah true
16:05.33[Ammo]so meh
16:05.47[Ammo]might be a simple thing to do
16:05.57[Ammo]point an actionbutton and place LockSmith there
16:06.38Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1175097569922.jpg <-hahaha
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16:18.05Mikmaass booty ass
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16:24.36Kemayokenlyric: You were mentioning an error on login with questsfu...
16:25.16CIA-1103kemayo * r31190 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Givers/Givers.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Add missing localized string to Givers module.
16:26.05kenlyricI'll give it a try.
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16:26.25AmadeoFuBar_QuestsFu-r31166\QuestsFu.lua:352: attempt to index field 'watchedQuests' (a nil value)
16:26.26Amadeo:(
16:26.31Mikmaany working mount-addons?
16:26.49shieldbmount addons as in..?
16:27.02Mikmaas in addons like MountMe
16:27.20shieldbwhat did that one do? I've never used mount addons in the past :)
16:28.03Mikmachanges mount-items on and off depending your mountstatus
16:28.14shieldbahh
16:28.14shieldbI just use itemrack for that
16:28.18KemayoAmadeo: Ahh.  Okay, I missed that.
16:28.30Amadeo:D
16:30.55vhaarrMikma: ClosetGnome_Mount works fine.
16:32.15CIA-1103shieldb * r31191 10Incubator/Core.lua: Incubator: Removed pack requirement on Magtheridon trash to help with stuff dying too far away.
16:32.28Mikmabut i don't need the ClosetGnome itself :P i only need mountaddon
16:32.46vhaarryou must use it anyway
16:32.50vhaarrbecause of they funny messages
16:32.58vhaarrthe*
16:33.12Mikmai'll rather save my cpu/gpu/mem ;)
16:33.27vhaarrit uses only mem, it does no processing while idle
16:35.17AmadeoYou'll probably use less memory with ClosetGnome + _Mount than MountMe
16:35.38Mikmalies
16:35.50Mikmai'll poke tekkub if i see him online
16:37.16Fisker-mountme sucks booooooh
16:37.23[Ammo]MountMe pwns
16:37.23Fisker-it crashes my WoW
16:37.39AmadeoMountMe used to be one of my largest addons
16:37.50[Ammo]size is bullcrap
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16:38.07[Ammo]grrr
16:38.12[Ammo]stupid mobs refuse to give me lockboxes
16:38.31sbuhmm - use training boxes? :o
16:39.00[Ammo]that would involve me flying to redridge from duskwood
16:39.10[Ammo]with all the problems that come from that
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16:40.27CIA-1103kemayo * r31192 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (QuestsFu.lua Tracker/Tracker.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu: Take care of watchedquests in QuestsFu.lua.
16:40.30kenlyricI've never been  able to pickpocket a box from a mob.
16:40.33kenlyricI gave up on it.
16:40.34Feldiahas mountme been updated in the last.... 4 months?
16:40.34KemayoAmadeo: That should fix it.
16:41.02KemayoIt's tricky to modularize such an interdependent addon.  ;_;
16:42.22AmadeoDon't cry!
16:42.49[Ammo]Feldia: it has
16:42.51[Ammo]you lie
16:42.54MikmaFeldia: tek has updated it, but i'm too lazy to get all the needed libs for it
16:43.38AmadeoSo I was doing Blacksmithing on my Rogue, thinking that Hemo was still decent...but I'm reading now that it's not as good as it was pre-TBC, so I don't know if I should continue Blacksmithing or not
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16:54.29syerenI have some addon.
16:54.35syerenThat is making me do this.
16:54.35syeren3/26 16:15:50.375 [4. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo] Ausmara: ioooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
16:54.35syeren3/26 16:15:50.375 [4. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo] Ausmara: ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
16:54.47syerenI never even joined the fucking channel to begin with.
16:54.52chutwigArcaniteReaper
16:56.02Mikmasyeren: here's a nice idea, please spam us more with that useless crap :)
16:57.13AmadeoMaybe your character is roleplaying being turned on
16:59.17AmadeoOr maybe not roleplaying ;)
16:59.23kergothi've got 16 junkboxes in the bank from pickpocketing to test it with :P
17:00.37AmadeoKemayo: hehe... FuBar_QuestsFu\QuestsFu.lua:525: '=' expected near '=='
17:02.10Gagorian!
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17:04.33[Ammo]kergoth: nice
17:04.42[Ammo]kergoth: I have a problem atm with the updateing of the button
17:04.49[Ammo]it works if you click it again after unlocking
17:05.13[Ammo]a delay of .5 seconds after a succesful unlock is not long enough :(
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17:07.52CIA-1103ammo * r31193 10LockSmith/LockSmith.lua: LockSmith: add arbitrary delay of 1 second after unlock to check for the next lockbox. Damn bagslots are not updating fast enough it seems.
17:09.36[Ammo]woot it works
17:09.37[Ammo]finally
17:09.44[Ammo]1 second is long  enough
17:09.47[Ammo]or something
17:10.51Nickenyfikenit's not depending on lag?
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17:10.58[Ammo]I hope not
17:11.08[Ammo]otherwise clicking the button again will make it go away
17:11.15[Ammo]or update
17:11.48[Ammo]if I knew which event updated items I'd use that
17:11.54[Ammo]it isn't BAG_UPDATE
17:12.52[Ammo]according to my mobcounter 115 undead had to pay the price for testing this :p
17:13.06kergothhehe
17:13.29kergothmeh, my svn.wowace.com connections on this checkout are timing out, but the dev.wowace.com ones go fine
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17:13.40Nickenyfikenhmm wasnt there a mod like that that open clams?
17:14.06CIA-1103kemayo * r31194 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: == = =.
17:14.18KemayoAmadeo: There you go.
17:14.18Amadeokergoth: Have you noticed kEnergy being inaccurate again, or is it just me?
17:14.22AmadeoKemayo: <3
17:15.12kergothAmadeo: it seems fine from the limited testing i've done, b ut i've been playing my shaman lately, not my rogue, so maybe i missed it
17:15.37kergothis your tickoffset incorrect? (it usually shouldnt be more than 0.05 seconds in most environments)
17:15.48AmadeoI just noticed a few times that the bar would fill, but the amount of energy wouldn't update as it should, then it would reset somewhere during the next tick
17:15.56AmadeoI'm not sure, I can check
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17:16.43Nickenyfikenlol my Hunter looks like a ice hockey goalie on the 80s or so
17:17.14kergothhuh, thats odd, that makes it sound like either it didnt get the anticipated tick (in which case you wouldve noticed that your energy hadnt changed for that period either), or it was unable to properly anticipate the energy changes, in which case, if you can reproduce it, enable debugging with a debuglevel of 2 or higher and get me the energy activity log from the kenergy savedvars
17:17.39Amadeo0.004 right now
17:17.47Amadeowill do
17:18.09kergothyea once you described it i figured hte tickoffset would be correct.. itll throw out the badly outlying tick time resulting from that missed tick
17:18.29AmadeoYou know, unrelated to that, I get a ton of disconnects lately...wondering if it's due to addons
17:18.37Amadeousually when I start getting bad framerate
17:18.41kergothweird
17:18.51Amadeolike I jumped halfway off the elevator in Shattrath
17:18.58Amadeolagged in mid air, then disconnect
17:19.02Amadeosometimes it happens in PvP
17:19.35[Ammo]kergoth: do you reset tickoffsets greater than the normal ticktime to 0?
17:20.21AmadeoKemayo: seems to work again, did you go back to the old quest tracker?
17:20.21kergothnot currently, you'd have to get a shitload of bad ticks in a row to get it to deviate that high.  i'll add that next time i commit something though, just as a sanity check
17:20.32[Ammo]just a thought
17:20.40[Ammo]I haven't seen problems with it so far
17:20.56kergothgonna clean it up anyway, kenergy isnt a lot of code right now, but it isnt very comprehensible due to all the state it maintains
17:21.17JoshBorkei heard kergoth writes bad code
17:21.23JoshBorkemaybe it was just a rumor though
17:21.35kergothyeah, who uses aceoo anyway
17:21.36kergoth;)
17:21.37kergothhmm
17:21.44JoshBorkeexactly
17:21.46kergothi need to look at baggins's boolean rule definition stuff
17:21.50KemayoAmadeo: Nope -- no functionality should have changed from yesterday.
17:22.21AmadeoKemayo: Oh I see, it's still there...I just noticed the tracker was opened up, I hadn't been using one at all I don't think
17:23.41Amadeohm, now I clicked it and the new questlog came up, but the tracker vanished
17:24.15KemayoHmmm.  Did it produce an error?
17:24.20kergothhmm, clearfont2 doesnt use sharedmedialib yet? :\
17:24.53AmadeoKemayo: Nope
17:25.36KemayoStrangeness.
17:25.47KemayoI'll have to see if I can reproduce that when I get home.
17:27.58Amadeook :)
17:28.01Amadeoworks ok though
17:28.56Amadeohey, suddenly it came back
17:28.56Amadeohaha
17:29.30KemayoIf you were running around, it could have been the automatic watching/unwatching, along with some coincidental timing...
17:29.38Phatrikchrist ... SpamSentry should be set prio over Celluar
17:29.50Phatrikgoldspam getting through to Celluar before SpamSentry blocks it
17:29.53AmadeoKemayo: I was, but it didn't come back while I was fighting those mobs until just now
17:31.04kergothPhatrik: saw a commit on irc yesterday that claimed to fix that, didnt it?
17:31.04kergothheh
17:31.35Kemayoart3mis: If you want a more configurable detached tooltip in QuestsFu without having to hack up FuBarPlugin, this module would probably work: http://ace.pastey.net/9559
17:32.02Kemayoart3mis: It doesn't have any options, but it does have a register statement that you can mess with, unlike FuBar's.  :D
17:32.30CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31195 10Prat/ (Prat.lua extras/PratFu.lua modules/ChatLangButton.lua):
17:32.30CIA-11Prat: Support enable/disable of Prat as a whole via the 'enable' command.
17:32.30CIA-11Disabled modules now appear disabled in the menus. They must be enabled via the
17:32.30CIA-11'Module Control' menu. Modules are prevented from loaded until Prat has loaded.
17:32.30CIA-11Favorites now appear whether they are enabled or not once Prat itself has loaded
17:32.33CIA-11(they are greyed out if disabled)
17:33.24Kemayoart3mis: (Actually, http://ace.pastey.net/9560 -- the previous one would have given some AceLocale errors.)
17:35.46AmadeoKemayo: I'm still gonna consider it being coincidental for now :)
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17:36.33Mikmaso, how is everyone's anal doing?
17:36.56kenlyrico.O
17:36.59kenlyricthat's a bit cheeky.
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17:37.03JoshBorkeMikma: you get all your mods set up?
17:37.08Mikmaya
17:37.09kenlyricba-dum bump
17:37.18Mikmastill looking for good unitframe addon
17:37.33JoshBorkeapparently aguf is no longer a good unitframe addon or something
17:37.34JoshBorkei dunno
17:37.41Mikmano it isn't
17:38.03Mikmathe author is a dork ;)
17:41.31AmadeoagUF is fine if you like it and what it can do
17:41.54Mikmai don't like agUF, i don't like what it can do, and i don't like YOU!!!1
17:42.08AmadeoBut I love you ;)
17:42.13Mikmaoh, cute
17:42.18Mikmawanna make babies
17:42.30Amadeoplz
17:43.42art3mishehe aguf is fine
17:43.46art3misit shows stuff
17:43.53art3misthats all ya need ;)
17:44.04art3misthey're just getting all pissy about having to move them again ;P
17:44.23ravagernlI put on my robe and wizard hat!!
17:44.36art3misdo you cast spells that make people fall down?
17:45.28art3misoh kemayo, thanks!
17:45.51art3misthat should do nicely
17:46.09art3missicne all i need to do really is force a max_height variable
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17:57.49Ozzwaldhello
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18:01.42Ozzwaldheya
18:02.45CIA-1103trh * r31196 10VanasKoS/modules/Notifier.lua: VanasKoS: removed debug output
18:04.23renchapKemayo: must i do something to have questsfu working with frFR client ?
18:04.57kergoth[Ammo]: works great :)
18:05.28art3mishack in the frFR locales?
18:05.42kergothwish i knew why pt3bar's buttons have no icons on these characters
18:05.44kergothfucking weird
18:05.54art3misi blame ckk
18:06.06art3mishehe installed pitbull last night and it fucked up all the icons in my inventory
18:06.13knarf-what is the range on in grid?
18:06.16art3misremoved pitbull problem went away ;P
18:06.27kergothart3mis: hah, thats weird
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18:07.07CowBookomg i never know
18:07.32Cowboy__knew
18:07.50Cowboy__ok so i am stumped..
18:08.22Cowboy__writing a fubar plugin, and i want the detached tooltip to be z-ordered above the auction house window
18:08.35kergothhmm, some sort of locksmith like addon for opening all those damn clamshells when fighting naga would be useful
18:08.52Cowboy__i'm trying to figure out how to set the frame strata on the detached tooltip.. but i can't seem to figure out how
18:09.07Cowboy__i can't find an example of someone else doing it either, i'm stumped
18:09.09Cowboy__any ideas?
18:09.27art3misoddly enough yes
18:09.33art3mis<PROTECTED>
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18:09.40art3miskemayo was just doing that for questfu
18:09.59art3miskergoth: just add it to yer autobar
18:10.11art3mis;)
18:10.42Cowboy__i had looked at questsfu.. but he's changing the strata of a new tablet, not the existing "regular fubar plugin tooltip" tablet
18:10.56Cowboy__from what i could tell, at least
18:11.18Cowboy__i want to change the strata of the regular old fubar detached tooltip for this addon
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18:11.51art3miswell, the above ia  mod to questfu to allow a custom detached you can muck with that has nothing to do with fubarplugin
18:12.07Cowboy__from what i can tell.. fubar does a tablet:Register(...) when the tooltip is created automatically
18:12.20Cowboy__yeah, i've already looked through questsfu
18:12.24art3misfubarplugin controls ALL plugin's detacheds
18:12.27Cowboy__it was the first thing i thought of
18:12.33art3misthat above patse is new
18:12.35art3mispaste
18:12.37Cowboy__hmmn
18:12.41art3misits not in questfu ;P
18:12.54Cowboy__ok
18:12.56Cowboy__let me look again
18:12.57art3mishence why i suggested it ;P
18:13.07Cowboy__yeah, my brain is a bit fried right now
18:13.19art3mishehe i was trying the same thing you were
18:14.08Mikmaumh
18:14.08art3misbut the downside is that fubarplugin controls it all so wihout making a custom detached within the mod you have to mod them all
18:14.08Cowboy__yeah
18:14.08Mikmawhy in the hell is my game doing some annoying chime-sounds?
18:14.37art3misso you can either create a "fubarpluginhax.lua" for ONLY that mod
18:14.39Cowboy__so art3mis.. are you saying that i will have to abandon the fubar default tooltip for this addon and create my own?
18:14.41art3misor use the above ;P
18:14.46art3misyup
18:14.54art3misi did it with questfu a while back
18:14.55Cowboy__man, that's frustrating
18:15.17art3misif you renamed the fubarplugin.lua and changed all the calls within the addon to the "new" lib
18:15.19art3misit works
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18:15.22Cowboy__is it possible for me to get the frame of the tooltip and then just :SetFrameStrata(...) on it?
18:15.29art3misdownside is duplicate
18:15.37Mikmaanyone knows?
18:15.56art3misbasically take fubarplugin make up a new name and replace all instances of fubarplugin with the new one ;P
18:16.01Cowboy__mikma: it could be anything, perhaps some new addon you installed
18:16.13Cowboy__yeah art3mis but that makes me feel gross inside
18:16.15art3mismy miranda makes random beeps
18:16.19Cowboy__i won't do it
18:16.25art3mishehe yeah but its a feasible option if yer lazy ;P
18:16.32Cowboy__well
18:16.37Mikmaeverytime my health goes low i head a chime
18:16.38Cowboy__i just don't quite understand what you've done
18:16.43art3misotherwise you need to create yer own detached to over-ride the existing
18:16.44Mikmaand everytime i target some mob i hear a chime
18:16.49Cowboy__i'm not an OOP guy, so all this stuff hurts my head
18:17.01art3miswell the ugly way is simple
18:17.09kergothMikma: i dunno about the target, but the new version of MSBT can have audio alerts.  it defaults to doing so for mana and health low, if you're using that
18:17.25Mikmakergoth: ok that might explain it, i'll have a look
18:18.00art3miscopy fubarplugin to fubarhax, replace EVERY instance where it says fubarplugin to fubarhax in all the files, then in the addon do a find/replace for fubarplugin and replace it with fubarhax
18:18.10AmadeoYeah, I turned those new chimes off in MSBT
18:18.15AmadeoI hate how loud they are
18:18.17art3misthen within fubarhax.lua scroll down to the tooltip creation and change what you want ;P
18:18.24Cowboy__i don't want to do that because then i lose the benefit of the whole shared library thing
18:18.30art3misnope not at all
18:18.39kergothi dont mind it, i used to use TNE_LowHealthWarning for a low health cue.. that one was nicer though, it played a heartbeat which increased in speed as you got more injured
18:18.42art3misthis keeps the library functions intact for ALL the other addons
18:18.47Cowboy__right
18:18.55Mikmaewww, that's what makes the sounds
18:18.56art3misand for the one addon you're changing since its a clone all the functionality is intact
18:18.57MikmaMSBT
18:19.01Amadeokergoth: That's a cool idea, but I still have the whole LOW HEALTH! thing scroll up, so that's ok for me :)
18:19.07Cowboy__but if he fixes something in a newer version of FubarPlugin, mine won't get that
18:19.08kergothMikma: disable the function then
18:19.09kergothAmadeo: hehe
18:19.13Cowboy__unless i update it manually
18:19.35kergothi'm notorious for focusing on the mob in front of me and letting myself die since i didnt pay attention
18:19.37art3missure it will, you'll just have to do the fubarplugin.lua -> fubarhax.lua replacement in the lib not the addon
18:19.50Cowboy__hmmn
18:20.08art3mislike i said its hideously ugly but it works
18:20.11Cowboy__but is there a reference anywhere to the frame of the detached tooltip
18:20.25art3misin fubarplugin.lua yes
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18:20.32Amadeokergoth: haha, I tend to not be able to do anything when I'm PvPing
18:20.38AmadeoI just kind of have a single focus :P
18:20.42Funkeh`hi all
18:21.12Kemayorenchap: I haven't gotten all the localizations copied over to the New Way Of Things yet.
18:21.28art3misbasically for that oen addon you're creating a contained clone of the addon it normally uses except its renamed and has yer tweaks ;P
18:21.35Cowboy__yeah
18:21.37renchapok, so thats not a bug if i dont have any options in fubar ? :)
18:21.39Cowboy__i hear that
18:21.47Cowboy__i just wanted to do it a different way
18:21.57art3misthat pastey above is the other way ;)
18:22.04Kemayorenchap: Did it give any errors, or is it just a completely empty menu?
18:22.11Cowboy__well i just don't understand that, i'm trying to figure it out
18:22.47art3miswhat the pastey does is basically craete a module for the addon, and gives you the option to use ITS detached instzd of the default
18:22.59art3misthats about it
18:23.06art3misits for questfu though so you'd have to mod deps and stuff
18:23.14Cowboy__yeah
18:23.19renchapi think i need to update the frFR translation
18:23.51Amadeohttp://www.shacknews.com/images/image-o-matic.x?tf2/060714_tf2_01.jpg
18:23.51Amadeo:D
18:24.06renchapKemayo: http://ace.pastey.net/9562
18:25.19Kemayorenchap: Ah, yes.  That's a sign that I haven't shuffled things around yet, so some translations are still in the core frFR localization that need to be moved to the modules.
18:26.00renchapok
18:26.13Heriothe new sniper looks like a safari guide lawl
18:26.24renchapi think i cant do that myself
18:26.53AmadeoHerio: It's hilarious looking, I really like it
18:27.12HerioI liked the trailer they put out a while back
18:27.40Heriobut I know I'm not going to like it for the same reasons I hate CS sourse
18:27.41Heriosource
18:28.22AmadeoWell, it's been long enough that I haven't played QWTF that hopefully I can get past the fact that nothing will ever be as good ;)
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18:29.24HerioQWTF?
18:29.41shieldbquakeworld team fortress
18:29.46HerioI enjoyed TFC quite a bit
18:30.32Heriowhat I liked about the HL engine is that everything was clearly defined and such, you don't have that in source
18:30.57Herioin CSS my dude wasn't able to walk over very small debris which was disappointing
18:31.04shieldbtfc was kinda fun, but it didn't have the same feel as the original team fortress did
18:31.49AmadeoI didn't like TFC at all
18:31.57AmadeoIt was really weird
18:32.01shieldbthe different physics model was 90% of that I think
18:32.04AmadeoI think so also
18:32.18Heriofor the most part, I loved TFC >.<
18:32.30AmadeoI think perhaps because you didn't play QWTF :)
18:32.34shieldbthere wasn't anything really wrong with TFC
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18:32.40HerioI like how the nades worked
18:32.58AmadeoIt was just the transition from QWTF to TFC...it wasn't the same game
18:33.02shieldbit was just tough to try to adjust to coming from qwtf
18:33.21AmadeoThe engine didn't feel right for it
18:33.46AmadeoBetter graphics, but kind of weird at the same time
18:33.50AmadeoLots of flickering things
18:33.59shieldbI'm hoping TF2 gets it right compared to qwtf or q3f
18:34.05AmadeoA lot of weapons kind of "warped" across the screen
18:34.11Amadeoyeah, I do too
18:34.14shieldbbut they might go nuts with physics stuff since it's source
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18:35.03AmadeoProbably, but maybe the cartoonish graphics will make it work :)
18:36.12Gnarfozanyone working with Cartographer_Waypoints experienced this before? http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/waypointbug.avi
18:36.24HerioI want to see some murderball
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18:43.51art3mishe's like a cross between hercules and gumby....he's gumbercules.   Gumbercules!!! I Love that guy!
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18:47.32ckknight[Ammo]: re: colors, all the colors can be changed by the user. type /pitbull
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18:51.09Cowboy__well art3mis .. it's over my head
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18:53.09NeoTronGnarfoz: yeah that happens every time you're essentially on a waypoint for me
18:53.11Cowboy__ckknight: have you considered allowing people to change the strata of a fubar addon's standard detached tooltip via method or some kind of init param?
18:53.21ckknightno
18:53.46ckknightthough actually you can change the initial strata in tablet
18:54.00CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31197 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Fixed two missing calls to checkNegatable for disabled options
18:54.03Cowboy__hmmn
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18:54.20Cowboy__i know that if i make a new tablet, i can set the strata of that
18:54.44Cowboy__but i'd like to set the strata of the default detached tooltip, as it's getting lost behind everything
18:54.55Cowboy__and it's actually something you'd want to have a high strata
18:55.28KemayoCowboy__: The way Tablet is right now, you can't change the strata of a tablet after it's registered.  It lacks a method for it.
18:55.43CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31198 10Prat/ (Prat.lua extras/PratFu.lua extras/PratWaterfall.lua): Prat: Changes in previous commmit now working with waterfall also
18:55.50Kemayo(Unless ckknight has changed that recently, of course.)
18:56.10ckknightI probably should allow that to change
18:56.39Cowboy__if i could get a frame reference to the detached tooltip, i could call :SetFrameStrata()
18:56.55Cowboy__but i haven't been able to find a reference to it anywhere
18:58.50[dRaCo]who coded cart_waypoints?
19:00.57Heriono author tag?
19:01.23kergothpretty sure wobin did most of the current incarnation
19:02.24[dRaCo]hm... found a little bug and was wondering who I should report it to
19:04.15HerioI'd post it into the thread, someone who's working on it will look into I suppose o.O
19:04.53Cowboy__i'm also getting this weird error -> Usage: IsAddOnLoadOnDemand(index or "name") that i'm quite unsure about
19:05.34knarf-what does it require for all healers to have installed in order for grid to report about casting ?
19:05.48[dRaCo]thought I could just tell somebody here ;)
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19:27.05art3mishrm when did those little dots in frames start appearing?
19:27.09art3misbetween lines
19:27.57JoshBorkewhen you changed your scale
19:28.02art3mishavent touched it
19:28.18art3miswas wondering if it was a lib change or something
19:28.37art3misit was fine last week and sometime this week(cuz im observant) it startd showing
19:28.49Brunerslol, Gruul has become to easy
19:29.57Heriois that before or after they put hurtful strike back in?
19:30.13Brunersjust now
19:30.22Herioah
19:30.23Heriowe
19:30.28Herio're doing him again tonight
19:30.43Heriowe downed him last night in a couple hours of attempts
19:31.04Brunerswe one shotted him now
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19:31.25Brunersnot even used consumeables
19:31.52Herioyeah, he was pretty easy, we did maulgarr the week before for the first time, then called it, and did grull the next week after him
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19:36.06CIA-1103ckknight * r31199 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2.lua: .Babble-Faction-2.2 - added more words.
19:36.06AmadeoWatching QWTF videos really brings me back :)
19:36.49vhaarrTopic: "ORA2 error massage"
19:37.42kenlyricwtb 25 people that show up on the same night.
19:39.00Stephmwkenlyric: bah, do it with 10 :)
19:39.07deltronlol
19:39.27deltronmassage eh
19:39.30deltronit can do that now?
19:39.45kenlyricoRA never massages me :(
19:40.20Stephmwonly on special versions
19:40.55kenlyricman, they really did overnurf R&J.
19:41.03kenlyricwe finally had those two again... sooo easy.
19:44.24deltronyeah
19:44.34deltronthe first time I had it we had no rogues or warriros
19:44.38deltronwarriors*
19:44.52CIA-1103eternally777 * r31200 10SacredBuff_Mounts/SacredBuff_Mounts.lua:
19:44.52CIA-11SacredBuff_Mounts:
19:44.52CIA-11* The mount button will now desaturate itself when the player enters combat, goes indoors, or gets on a taxi
19:45.09kenlyricI guess it could be hard without interrupts of any kind. But even BBW has some more random unluckiness involved.
19:45.16kenlyricReally, he should hit for harder. I felt bored :)
19:46.39Stephmwcould've gone to give him a hug or two to spice things up
19:47.05vhaarrkenlyric: err, they nerfed R&J?
19:47.07vhaarrfor gods sake
19:47.12vhaarrthey're nerfing everything
19:47.24deltronhttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=4137 <== nice
19:47.42vhaarrnubs that have never set foot in a raid instance pre-TBC are running around with 2/5 T4
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19:48.08deltronit sucks :(
19:48.14deltronmy coworker has 4/5 already
19:48.19Gagorianwell T4 sucks so I don't mind
19:48.20deltronbut he was a hardcore naxx guild
19:48.25zoktardoes epeen have a autoadd gankers option ?
19:48.31art3misyeah that mobmap is kinna neat
19:48.36art3misits got some drawbacks to it though
19:48.55deltronit looks omghueg
19:49.07art3misits great for finding mobs
19:49.08vhaarrGagorian: But they're going to revamp it, I thought?
19:49.29art3misit sucks for browsing recipes(as it doesnt tell you were to get them) and it doesnt find items
19:49.42Gagorianvhaarr: perhaps, I'm not keeping my hopes up
19:49.50GagorianNeeds to be a lot better to be worth it
19:50.12vhaarrindeed
19:50.25deltronI started to use a pretty nice guild bank addon last night
19:50.30Mikmawhere are all the good DW shaman builds? ffs
19:50.50deltronMikma: 0/47/14
19:51.03Fisker-I AM THE CREATOR
19:51.13Fisker-/spit
19:51.20deltronhttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/6504/duckiebank/ <-- awesome mod
19:51.33Mikmawell, i still can't find suitable build for me :P
19:51.38Mikma0/40/xx
19:51.44deltronMikma: linkplz to your armory
19:52.04Mikmadeltron: wa?
19:52.22deltronwhat level are you?
19:52.26Mikmamy shammy's lvl50
19:53.10Mikmaan i think my prio is on nature's swiftness too
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19:53.42deltronNS is nice
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19:54.09Mikmathat's why i think i'm doing 0/40/xx, so i can get ns
19:54.18Mikmabut i can't remember what was the build like i did months ago :D
19:54.35CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31201 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat.toc extras/Presets.lua modules/Presets.lua):
19:54.36CIA-11Prat: Promoted the presets module to a settings module like pratfu. Modules of
19:54.36CIA-11this type will not show the toggle or favorite options. Also added the '/prat
19:54.36CIA-11enable' command which will let you turn modules on and off from the command
19:54.36CIA-11line. The normal commands is disabled along with the module (same as in the gui
19:54.39CIA-11Module Control menu)
19:55.31deltronhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Diode
19:55.34JoshBorkesylvanaar: so how do you disable prat as a whole?  it checks to see if /prat enable <module> and if not module then do prat stuff?
19:56.36sylvanaar- /prat standby
19:57.03deltronMikma: that's my current build
19:57.11sylvanaarthats standard AceConsole
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19:57.46Mikmatlol shamanan
20:00.03Antiarc|Workhttp://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8144/image0071c328b4sa6.jpg
20:01.03Amadeohahah
20:01.12deltronyeah that's jawsome
20:01.51ckknightlol, Antiar1
20:01.52kergoththe armory hates my firefox
20:01.57ckknightAntiarc|Work*
20:02.22Antiarc|WorkI have felt that way on many calc tests.
20:02.35deltronarmory hates linux
20:02.38kenlyricso, you kept dual wield and 2-h talents?
20:02.41kergothdeltron: hows http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=uZxVfbE0sVuqoxbIz look to you for leveling?
20:02.50kergothi'm actually playing my old main, my shammy :)
20:02.56kergothgood fun
20:03.02deltronyou had a shammy?
20:03.02GagorianZealotOnAStick: pong
20:03.08kergothyup
20:03.13kergothlike 2 years ago
20:03.17kergothhe was my first 60, before zebrin
20:03.26deltronI go 2h if I'm pulling too much aggro from a crappy tank heh
20:03.26kergothi had left him in better off dead when i took zeb to sanc
20:03.34kenlyricI currently am at level 23, so I have two more point to spend to get me through tier 3... debating between imp lightning shield and anticipation.
20:03.45NeoTronWTB resto druid/holy pally/resto shaman
20:03.46kergothheh, dw, half time as soon as i hit one stormstrike he's lost aggro, its pathetic
20:04.12kergothwtf, aguf is acting weird
20:04.21NeoTronwe have managed to lose two resto druids (both are taking a break/being flaky) and a holy pally (dipshit recruit that left)
20:04.41ckknightNeoTron: I'm a pally
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20:04.50ckknightlvl 40, though :-P
20:04.52ckknightand prot.
20:05.12JoshBorkeNeoTron: i have a 60 paladin :-D  holy
20:05.34AmadeoI have a level 1 Paladin
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20:06.14NeoTron70 might be benefitial for karazhan and beyond >:-)
20:06.48NeoTronI don't (necessarily) want to buy an account but rather recruit people to the guild
20:07.18deltronkergoth: yeah that spec is pretty good
20:09.33kergothi wasnt gonna get imp gw, but i find i use it more than i expected, to dash through a group of mobs without getting knocked off the mount, or as an escape mechanism
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20:13.29CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31202 10ACP/ACP.xml: ACP: Holding down shift when you click reload ui will bypass the confirmation
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20:28.15CIA-1103nymbia * r31204 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:
20:28.15CIA-11.Glory-2.0:
20:28.16CIA-11- Changed 2v2 arena multiplier back to 70% (confirmed by Ituron. Thanks!)
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20:28.16PsyloHi
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20:28.16sylvanaarNeoTron - resto sux !!
20:28.16Brunersis there a way to push release or accept ressurection without a mouse?
20:28.16UhuruI need a third hand to easily access all my keybindings ...
20:28.17Uhuruenter to accept ?
20:28.17UhuruEsc to refuse ?
20:29.17Brunersnope
20:31.15Arrowmasterit could be done
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20:32.04nymbia./script AcceptResurrect()
20:32.39Antiarc|WorkHahahah
20:32.39Antiarc|Work"I've always wanted to change my legal name to ;DROP DATABASE; and see what kind of havoc ensues..."
20:33.08CIA-1103nymbia * r31205 10PT3Bar/ (Config.lua PT3Bar.toc):
20:33.08CIA-11PT3Bar:
20:33.08CIA-11- Make the toc try to load a file called OtherConfig.lua, which WAU (hopefully) won't overwrite when you update. Just rename Config.lua to OtherConfig.lua.
20:33.08CIA-11- Make the config files check if a config has already been run.
20:33.08JoshBorkelol
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20:35.27yacoobHm.
20:35.38yacoobCan I move necronomicon2 buttons?
20:37.41Mikmathe answer is either Yes, or No
20:37.57renchapi say yes
20:38.04[dRaCo]maybe
20:38.17renchapwe need a no
20:38.24yacoobthere's no doc. I can move single buttons but I see no way to move it as a group
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20:39.42yacoobeh, it's throwing errors anyway :E
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20:40.45deltronNeoTron: heh i'm pretty much a resto shammy
20:41.19yacoobso, what else can be used as stone mod for warlock?
20:42.37ZealotOnAStickI still use ShardAce.  :/
20:44.40GagorianZealotOnAStick: Did you want to talk to me about something?
20:45.37ZealotOnAStickHad a question about something I probably know the answer to, but wanted to be sure.
20:45.49ZealotOnAStickDoes DrDamage do anything to try to account for Improved Shadow Bolt talent?
20:46.21GagorianNot over time, only current status
20:46.43GagorianIt's impossible to do accurately
20:46.55GagorianSo better not to do it at all :>
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20:50.57GagorianZealotOnAStick: Of course.. If you have a suggestion of something not too random I'm willing to listen :)
20:51.26ZealotOnAStickNo, I figured it didn' tbecause it's entirely too random to try to figure for.
20:51.30ZealotOnAStickJust wanted a definite yes or no.
20:51.59ZealotOnAStickCame up on guild lock chat last night and we figured it didn't, but I said I'd ask you to find out anyway.
20:52.00CIA-1103cryect * r31206 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: BigBrother - Added Misdirection alerting and initial auto updating of the Buff Window (one issue at the moment so its not quite done).
20:53.38GagorianZealotOnAStick: Yeah. If anything it could be added to average total of shadow bolt (only) assuming all locks in raid crit as much then you'd technically usually get 4 cause you can leech the other locks ones as much as they do yours.
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20:56.26GagorianBut then there's shadow priests leeching em up
20:56.37GagorianSo it's just too random
20:56.59Mikmahttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=GZxV0bE0sVuVZE00x0xo
20:57.19CIA-1103nymbia * r31207 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:
20:57.19CIA-11.Glory-2.0:
20:57.19CIA-11- Round arena points to the nearest integer instead of always down.
20:58.17Gagorianno stormstrike? :l
20:58.31Mikmano
20:58.48Nickenyfikeni would put the points in Anticipation on other things
20:59.02GagorianWhat's that spec for? PvP?
20:59.06yacoobwhat are the names of petbar buttons in keybindings window?
20:59.06Mikmai can't find anything to put em
20:59.15MikmaPvE leveling
20:59.17NickenyfikenPvE solo
20:59.44kenlyricMikma... imp lighting shield would probably not be a bad way to go.
21:00.00kenlyricI'm considering that to fill out tier 3.
21:00.00deltronimp lightning shield is good for soloing and leveling
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21:00.05Mikmai thought that too but found it useless :)
21:00.18Nickenyfikeni always use water shield when grinding
21:00.19GagorianShamanistic rage is nice from what I've tested
21:00.26GagorianBetter than NS for leveling
21:00.37Nickenyfikenwater shield and shamanistic rage makes you almost never go OOM
21:00.44Mikmawell i like to stay alive, so i stick with NS :D
21:03.28Nickenyfikenmeh :-P
21:03.56Mikmahmm
21:04.04Nickenyfikenbah armory is down
21:04.04Mikmai may redo the restoration tree
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21:04.35deltronlink me your spec
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21:05.13kergothyea water shield + shamanistic rage is nice.  still oom occasionally when soloing, but almost never in 5 mans so far
21:05.16Mikmawell i just did, the ench-tree is 1:1 but now i'm starting to put points in resto
21:05.26Mikmawhat is water shield?
21:05.42deltroni think mikma's way too low for water shield
21:06.18Nickenyfikenwhy is he making a 70 build then?
21:06.39Mikmabecause i want to know where to put my next points
21:06.39deltronoh *shrug*
21:07.04Nickenyfikenah
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21:10.09Mikmahttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=GZxV0bE0sVuVZVf0x0xo
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21:10.17Mikmathere. done and that's what i'll be making
21:10.45TecnoBratAnyone here on Korgath US?
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21:18.17Mikmahttp://www.b0g.org/wsnm/articles/Pancake+addiction :Dw
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21:21.05Ironhandis there a way to stack my Bartender3 bars *above* FuBar rather than below it?
21:21.15Nickenyfikenhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/?character-sheet.xml?r=Outland&n=Trollfager#character-talents.xml?r=Outland&n=Trollfager
21:21.24Nickenyfikenmy shaman if you care Mikma :-P
21:21.50Mikmamake me care :D
21:22.03Mikmarun that through hugeurl.com and paste it again
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21:24.10ckknightIronhand: detach the FuBar and move it to where you want
21:25.48Cowboy__i'm trying to dynamically create a Tablet pane, so i want to be able to change the number of columns easily
21:26.06Cowboy__it seems like category:AddLine() just takes individual arguments
21:26.07ckknightCowboy__: not hard, the children function handles all that on the fly
21:26.16ckknight:AddCategory sets the number of columns
21:26.38Cowboy__say i have columns "A", "B", "C"
21:26.51Cowboy__i want to give the use a checkbox to enable each column
21:27.00Cowboy__so they could show A and C if they wanted, for example
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21:27.15ckknightk.
21:27.20Cowboy__just trying to figure out how to dynamically generate the category:AddLine() function call
21:27.36Cowboy__since the number of arguments to that function will change
21:27.48Cowboy__depending on the number of columns they have enable
21:28.02ckknightoh, you can feed in a table instead.
21:28.03Cowboy__or.. if i set "columns", 2 will it ignore the 3rd column?
21:28.06Cowboy__ah!
21:28.13ckknightit will ignore the third column, though
21:28.23Cowboy__so category:AddLine({"A", "C"}) ?
21:28.23ckknightbeware about feeding in a table. You _must_ recycle
21:28.35ckknightotherwise memory issues galore.
21:28.37Cowboy__hmmn
21:28.39Cowboy__ok
21:28.49Cowboy__maybe i'll just make it accept the max # of columns by default
21:28.54Cowboy__and just use what's necessary
21:30.02vhaarrCowboy__: take a look at SpyGnome
21:30.12vhaarrCowboy__: It generates columns as necessary.
21:30.16Cowboy__ok
21:32.13MikmaNickenyfiken: your shaman doesn't want to show up
21:32.40deltronsearch for diode on suramar for my enh build
21:32.44deltronor rottinbull on suramar
21:38.05CIA-1103kemayo * r31208 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Tricksy globals.
21:40.42vhaarrdev is really slow for me
21:41.00vhaarrKemayo: was your commit slow to get through?
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21:43.39vhaarr..
21:44.33vhaarrah, it went through, it was just my client that froze, wth
21:45.19ckknightCIA seems slow.
21:45.30vhaarryeah
21:45.31nymbiaCIA seems gone ;)
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21:46.10ckknightoh.
21:46.19ckknightit missed my PitBull commit :-(
21:46.33CIA-1103nymbia * r31212 10/tags/Stitch-1.0/: Stitch-1.0: tag dir
21:47.04Kemayovhaarr: Nope, my commit was speedy.
21:47.15vhaarrKemayo: yeah seems it was just my client that froze
21:47.23StephmwI'm hearing a lot of PitBull... where can I read more?
21:47.37vhaarrhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PitBull/
21:47.47ckknightno place to read, really, just download and try out for yourself
21:48.03CIA-1103nymbia * r31213 10/ (tags/Stitch-1.0/1.0/ trunk/Stitch-1.0/): Stitch-1.0: Removed from trunk, see tags.
21:48.38CIA-1103kemayo * r31214 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (10 files in 4 dirs):
21:48.38CIA-11FuBar_QuestsFu:
21:48.38CIA-11-Comment out localized text that's no longer in the core enUS localization. (May have missed some.)
21:48.38CIA-11-Do the koKR localization on Details and Givers to give localizers an idea of what's needed.
21:49.23KemayoI admit it.  I'm a lazy person.
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21:50.22CIA-11ow
21:50.40KemayoI started out planning to get most of the localized strings copied into the relevant modules.  My enthusiasm spluttered out once I
21:50.48Kemayo'd put koKR into two.
21:51.28nymbiahaha
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22:17.04ckknightAnyone want to start a forum topic about PitBull?
22:18.17Mikmayou?
22:18.23ckknightno
22:18.30Mikmai find it more suitable that the author does it :)
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22:19.22ckknightblah
22:19.23ckknightdon't feel like it
22:19.23Mikmawell i could do it but i don't know what to write
22:19.26Mikma"Hi all. This is a placeholder for ckknight's description about PitBull"
22:19.26CIA-1103ckknight * r31215 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make the defaults colors for mana, rage, etc. less vibrant
22:19.47Mikmai got an idea for you. couple of default positions for the frames
22:19.53Mikmalike, Blizzard-positions, etc
22:20.15ckknightah, I'm not too worried about that
22:20.48Mikmawell make a support for it and i'm sure that people will post their positions for you
22:21.32ckknightwell, what I really want is a way to serialize everything, positions, layout, borders, etc. and be able to store it or send it to guildies and such
22:21.36ckknightthat's much later, though
22:21.59Mikmayeah that will rock. definetely
22:22.07Mikmaor how in the hell it's written
22:22.13Mikmadefinitely or so
22:22.19ckknightdefinitely
22:22.23Mikma"send layout"
22:22.37ckknight<3 mac's builtin spellchecker
22:23.09Mikmawut?
22:23.17Mikmathere is?
22:23.33Mikmanwo i cna leanr hwo to tpyo!!!1
22:23.56Mikmas/tpyo/tpye/
22:24.34Mikmackknight: i cleaned my mac some week ago :D disassembled the whole keyboard and washed the buttons
22:24.47Mikmagod damn it was a long job, took like 6h
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22:26.06ckknightooh, damn
22:26.29CIA-1103sylvanaar * r31216 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Will now query bugsack for startup errors, and attempt to enable unlisted dependancies that cause startup errors. Will print a message telling you to reload your ui if it can enable the missing addon.
22:26.50zoktarany easy way to add textures to pitbull?
22:26.56ckknightzoktar: how do you mean?
22:27.00ckknightfor the status bars?
22:27.07zoktarlike in aguf u add in variables.lua
22:27.09zoktaryeah
22:27.13zoktargot one i use in aguf
22:27.19ckknightyou register with SharedMediaLib
22:27.38ckknightAceLibrary("SharedMedia-1.0"):Register('statusbar', "Name", "path")
22:27.42ckknightthat should be all.
22:27.55zoktarwhere should i put that ?
22:29.01zoktarshall i install sharedmedialib independantly and then i can register stuff or whut =P
22:29.23CIA-1103ckknight * r31217 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - update status bar textures upon SharedMedia-1.0 registration of said texture.
22:30.31ckknightzoktar: SharedMedia-1.0 is included in PitBull
22:30.35ckknightzoktar: I recommend just tacking it at the end of PitBull.lua or something.
22:30.39CIA-1103ckknight * r31218 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix possible bug.
22:31.08zoktarowh ok anywher then thnx
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22:35.18KamarisGreetings.
22:35.42KamarisDoes anyone know of a mod that can track which consumables a person is carrying on them in a raid?
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22:36.17MikmaKamaris: oRA
22:36.39Kamarischecking
22:37.08Antiarc|WorkIt might be interesting to have a mod that piggybacks on oRA/CTRA to show a graphical list of consumables held when you mouse over someone.
22:37.10ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5456.0
22:39.05Mikmaohffs, someone should make a website dedicated for talent-trees based by the purpose of the char. "Damage" "Heal" for priest etc
22:40.10CIA-1103ckknight * r31219 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Variables.lua: ag_UnitFrames - bugfix for the colors
22:44.13Chompersthat was a good raid
22:44.17Chompersif only they were all like that
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22:47.08HealthA good inspect addon that gives a summary of target stats?
22:47.17Kamarisok, so oRA still requires you to manually query the raid to see there items, is there a mod that has a db of consumables and just shows me how has what at the click of a button?
22:47.23StephmwA complete sentence?
22:47.49NightHawkTheSanePsh. Complete sentences are a total
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22:50.14shieldbKamaris, I'd be curious at how much luck you'd have with a mod like that - I know I disable item queries :)
22:51.46shieldbI usually show up to raids with way more consumables then I need and people bugged me for handouts all the time before I turned them off
22:52.11Antiarc|Workshieldb: I (as an officer, though not a regular raid leader) recommend people for raid kicking if they turn off item queries and don't seem to be performing. :D
22:52.19Antiarc|WorkIf you're performing, no prob.
22:52.29shieldboh yeah that's a different story
22:52.31Kamarisshieldb, the issue is not who brings consumables, but rather who doesn't
22:52.44zoktarwhat could be wrong with this path ? C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\Images\Bars\Rusty.tga
22:53.23ZealotOnAStickSo . . .
22:53.35ZealotOnAStickjust finished a horrible, bad luck, lengthy heroic shadow labs.
22:53.41ZealotOnAStickand Murmur didn't fucking drop his essence.
22:53.46CIA-1103cryect * r31220 10BigBrother/BuffWindow.lua: BigBrother - Set the positions of the back and forth arrows on the buff window to fixed positions.
22:53.51shieldbin principle I'm cool with consumable queries, but it always seems to lead to "Oh, you brought 20 of each of the main consumables your class uses and a few flasks. Just kick some out to so and so"
22:54.15Antiarc|WorkIck. That's not cool.
22:54.45Antiarc|WorkIn my group, people are expected to farm their own consumables, and if you show up without them on a fight that we've asked people to bring 'em for, you get kicked and/or don't get invited next time.
22:54.52Kamarisshieldb, from my point of view it would be used more to determine who is worth bringing to a raid over others
22:54.54Antiarc|WorkPeople with extras aren't expected to share.
22:54.57Kamarisnot who i can leech from
22:55.17shieldbI don't mind loaning someone a few consumables from time to time or kicking out a flask for our MT becasue we're short one, but it isn't like they're free for me :)
22:55.32shieldbKamaris, yeah though depending on how it's implemented you wouldn't be the only one with access to the information
22:55.37Antiarc|WorkRight, but it shouldn't be expected.
22:56.23shieldbagain, it sounds cool in principle but I'd probably turn it off personally - it would be a great tool so long as people weren't abusing it
22:56.24Kamariscurrent, ctra only allows raid leaders and raid assists to /raitem query
22:56.31Kamaristhat would be more than sufficient
22:56.55Kamarisi already have the ability to do what i ask, just on a per item basis
22:56.58xini hate consumeables. "Next week I want you to bring 10 fire pots and 10 shadow pots" "You mean over 250g worth of crap?" "yes"
22:57.59shieldbjust another part of raiding, really
22:59.01NightHawkTheSaneno, its "just" bad game design. :P
23:00.42Industrialthis character named Fannylicken is being offensive and calling me (ahchar, L5 nekkid gnome on the mailbox) noob etc
23:00.48Industrialhell love the ticket
23:00.51Industrial:3
23:01.36TecnoBratshieldb, thats bad
23:01.51TecnoBratyou should not be expected to provide for slackers
23:02.32Antiarc|WorkKamaris: RaidSpy caches durability and item query requests for anyone to see.
23:02.47TecnoBratI dont mind helping out our MTs or the shadow priest in my group tho
23:02.51Antiarc|WorkAnd xin, consumables are a part of raiding on the high end, unfortunately.
23:03.04Antiarc|WorkIf you can't pay the consumables cost, raiding may not be the right place for you.
23:03.08Gngngskxin, 250g is nothing.
23:03.10TecnoBrat(I'm a paladin, if the shadow priest is popping mana pots .. I'm almost guaranteed to ahve mana)
23:03.33Antiarc|Work(I say that because I've had to recommend people for exclusion from raiding because their unwillingness to come prepared hurt the rest of the raid. People not showing up ready to kick ass is not a good way to raid.)
23:03.36Kemayozoktar: First, it's absolute.  If you're using it to load Rusty.tga, it'll only work for people who have WoW installed in that location.  Second, you haven't escaped the backslashes.  You probably want: "Interface\\AddOns\\ag_UnitFrames\\Images\\Bars\\Rusty.tga"
23:04.08zoktarowh ok thanks =)
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23:04.12TecnoBratAntiarc|Work, I'm having a huge problem with certain people in my guild right now
23:04.13PyrrhusSup all
23:04.34TecnoBratHoly priests getting out healed on a tank and spank fight by shadow priests
23:04.40TecnoBrat(Effective healing)
23:04.42KamarisAntiarc|Work, i think you may have just become my hero
23:04.42Pyrrhusquick question... anyone know what castbar mod MazzleUI uses?
23:04.43Kamarischecking
23:04.43Antiarc|WorkOuch.
23:04.50TecnoBratpeople who don't know how to play their class, etc
23:05.00Antiarc|WorkYup. BC was a huge relief for us in that way.
23:05.11Antiarc|WorkWe got to drop the 15 slots of people that sorta just showed up and coasted along
23:05.20Antiarc|WorkIt's become really, really apparent who those people are in Karazhan.
23:05.25TecnoBratwe are just finding those people now
23:05.27Antiarc|WorkIn a 10-man, there isn't any room for coasting.
23:05.37TecnoBratwell we have a kara group that I always run with
23:05.42TecnoBratthis priest is not in our group
23:05.58TecnoBratso I didn't know until we did gruul how bad she was
23:06.00kergothFetching external item into 'RaidSpy/libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\'
23:06.00kergothA    RaidSpy/libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua
23:06.00kergothChecked out external at revision 31220.
23:06.08kergothwrong slashes in the svn:externals :)
23:06.14kergothbreaks the cmdline client it seems
23:06.21Antiarc|WorkMy guild alliance fields four Kara groups, with officers and/or class leaders in each group, so that makes it easier to evaluate.
23:06.23Mikmakergoth: YAY! i love those errors ;D
23:06.43TecnoBratwe are at 3 groups, and some of the officers are "too nice"
23:06.53Antiarc|WorkTecnoBrat: Give it time. They'll get fed up eventually. :)
23:07.13TecnoBratheh, I hope so
23:07.15NightHawkTheSaneHell I got fed up before we even got into kara. >.>
23:07.26Antiarc|WorkWe're a nice group, but the 25-man cap and so many people vying for spots makes it a lot easier to cut the cruft.
23:07.27TecnoBratcause the couple people we have .. are really getting on my nerves
23:08.08CIA-1103ckknight * r31221 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc PvP/ PvP/PvP.lua): PitBull - add PvP module
23:08.19kergothpvp module? show flag status?
23:08.39Antiarc|WorkHahahah
23:08.40Antiarc|Workhttp://kamileon.net/wow/mc-strats.jpg
23:08.51ckknightyea, kergoth
23:09.20TecnoBratI just dont get how a priest with 1700 healing, 137 mana regen in combat, and 8k mana completely unbuffed can be LAST in healing .. below the shadow priests .... and no .. its not prayer of mending.
23:09.29Antiarc|WorkTecnoBrat: Laziness, of course.
23:09.43NightHawkTheSanepossibly incompetance
23:09.45Antiarc|WorkFortunately, BC fixed a lot of "holy trinity" issues, so it's possible to replace a priest with a paladin or druid, for example.
23:09.47kergothckknight: nifty :)
23:09.57Antiarc|WorkYou can have paladin or druid tanks, and there's plenty of DPS to go around.
23:09.59NightHawkTheSaneI'm more likely to assume incompetence than laziness, myself.
23:10.00TecnoBratAntiarc|Work, very true.
23:10.13Antiarc|WorkSo you can drop a holy priest and stick in a resto druid or holy paladin without any problems.
23:10.27TecnoBratHeh, I'd rather take one of my other paladins
23:10.35TecnoBratOur paladin core are really really strong
23:10.45Antiarc|WorkPaladins can be absolutely amazing healers, especially in BC.
23:10.45NeoTrondoes anyone use a paladin tank?
23:10.51Antiarc|WorkWe use paladin tanks in Kara
23:10.55TecnoBratOur 3rd kara group does
23:11.00Antiarc|WorkDruid/war tanks on Gruul
23:11.01NeoTronprimary or Ot?
23:11.08Antiarc|WorkBoth
23:11.12TecnoBratNeoTron, OT for us
23:11.14NeoTronand of OT, what the heck does he do during fights like curator and aran?
23:11.19Antiarc|WorkHeal
23:11.31NeoTronI heal better as a warlock than our pally tank
23:11.34NeoTronhe's prot/ret spec
23:11.38NeoTronwonder if prot/holy would help
23:11.40TecnoBratYea, in a 25 man you normally see 4 paladins at the top of the healing meter, then 2 druids/1 holy priest, then shadow priests, then the crappy holy priest
23:11.41Antiarc|WorkLikely.
23:11.43NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: yes
23:11.47ckknightNeoTron: probably not.
23:11.50NeoTronHe's essentially useless in a lot of the fights
23:12.00Antiarc|WorkThere's not much good reason to be ret in a raiding environment, except maybe 1 CS judgment bitch in 25-mans.
23:12.00steinoYou use more then one holy priest? :O
23:12.02ckknightNeoTron: if he wants to tank, you gotta be prot/ret
23:12.05NeoTronand he's not really a bad healing paladin - he has healed in Naxx etc
23:12.13TecnoBratCS judgement bitch doesnt work
23:12.14ckknighthe won't be as good of a tank if he's prot/holy
23:12.22ckknightbut he will be a slightly better healer if he is prot/holy
23:12.24ckknightthat's about it
23:12.27TecnoBratif they miss / dodge /parry 1 CS, all judgements are gone
23:12.33Antiarc|Workckknight: You don't need a 5-star offtank most places, though
23:12.46Antiarc|WorkSo the flexibility to tank or heal can be really nice
23:12.47TecnoBratits 20 secs for the judgement, 10 sec for CS, and with lag .. its just not possible
23:12.54NeoTronhe already does have problems with some OT roles but that's a gear issue
23:13.00TecnoBratyou miss once, and POOF
23:13.51ckknightAntiarc|Work: yea, it's the difference between being able to MT or OT
23:13.51Antiarc|WorkI actually prefer paladin tanks over warrior tanks, provided that either can survive.
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23:14.01TecnoBratI still refreshed light on Gruul at least 20 times last night, and we had a ret pally
23:14.13NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: what c lass do you play, and why do you say that?
23:14.30TecnoBratfucking retarded .. loll
23:14.34Antiarc|WorkNightHawkTheSane: Rogue, and because I can exercise my full range of skills with a paladin tank, since they don't have rage to worry about.
23:14.45NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: okay, fair enough
23:14.47Antiarc|WorkI can't use stuns with a warrior tank, since it impedes their rage generation.
23:14.58NightHawkTheSaneyeah, unfortunately. :\
23:15.01TecnoBratwith a warrior, it increases their aggro
23:15.07TecnoBratif they are using SoC / JoC
23:15.12TecnoBraterr with a paladin I mean
23:15.17Antiarc|WorkRogue main, warrior and priest alts, FWIW.
23:15.21TecnoBratif they judge when you have it stunned
23:15.26Antiarc|WorkYup.
23:15.32Antiarc|WorkI help the paladin rather than hurting them.
23:15.48TecnoBratmana really isnt an issue either
23:15.55NightHawkTheSaneCourse, if they just made warrior tanking not completely asinine, that wouldn't be a problem
23:15.57Antiarc|WorkNah, not with the mana-on-heal skill.
23:16.00TecnoBratsince you get mana on the healing .. not when you take the dmg
23:16.04Antiarc|WorkWarrior tanking is a ton better with the TC and rage fixes.
23:16.21NightHawkTheSaneyeah, but it's just a bandaid on a fundamentally flawed system
23:16.24Antiarc|WorkWe still use warrior tanks for Gruul, since that 10% off of all incoming damage is really nice.
23:16.28ilifingets even better with battlemaster enchant aswell
23:16.50TecnoBratrage generation needs to be fixed for warriors
23:16.56Antiarc|WorkIt is fixed, IMO.
23:17.00NightHawkTheSaneno, its not.
23:17.00TecnoBratyou should get more rage when you block / parry / dodge
23:17.10Antiarc|WorkWell, it's a lot better than it was. :)
23:17.16NightHawkTheSanerage from incoming attacks should be based on how much damage you avoid/mitigate
23:17.17ilifinit was zero wasn't it
23:17.18TecnoBratavoiding an attack should give you rage .. imo
23:17.28TecnoBratit still is 0
23:17.42NightHawkTheSaneIt's ass backwards that gearing up a tank reduces their threat generation
23:18.01ilifingearing up a warrior*
23:18.02TecnoBratcompletely
23:18.09TecnoBrator a druid
23:18.11TecnoBratfor that matter
23:18.11NightHawkTheSaneilifin: true.
23:18.19NightHawkTheSanedruids dont have quite the problem, though.
23:18.24TecnoBrathowever, druids can only dodge
23:18.32NightHawkTheSanetheir damage output is much higher, and dont have the rage issues warriors do
23:18.37ilifinonly thing arguably better for warriors is the chance to block parts of a crushing blow
23:18.40TecnoBratbut a good druid tank's dodge rate is high
23:18.46Antiarc|WorkI've never heard a druid complain about rage gen, THB
23:18.47Antiarc|WorkTBH*
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23:19.06Antiarc|Workilifin: Wars can also chug pots/shield wall, which are lifesavers in some fights.
23:19.10TecnoBratwhen a druid gets to like 40% dodge, it will become a problem (which will happen)
23:19.21TecnoBratthe agil => dodge ratio for a druid is nuts
23:19.25Antiarc|WorkIt really is.
23:19.34Antiarc|WorkIt's offensive that a bear dodges better than my lithe, agile rogue.
23:19.56TecnoBrathowever, they cant parry or block
23:20.12TecnoBratso it evens out in the end (from a pve tanking perspective)
23:20.21Antiarc|WorkYeah, but druid tanks are generally also the highest-HP tanks out there, and sit in the 74-75% damage mitigation range.
23:20.42Antiarc|WorkWell, physical.
23:20.44TecnoBratthey still take WAYY more crushing blows
23:20.59Antiarc|WorkGranted. Their HP and AC compensate for that to a degree though.
23:21.11Antiarc|WorkCrushes are dangerous as a percentage of the tank's total health.
23:21.41TecnoBrathaving 25% block, and then popping shield block makes you immune to crushing
23:21.44Antiarc|WorkDruids reduce crushes more iwth their AC, and they have a larger HP to buffer with, which makes it a lot less of a problem.
23:21.52Antiarc|WorkFor the duration of shield block, yes.
23:22.10Antiarc|WorkOne block per six seconds untalented.
23:22.45TecnoBratwell if you are gonna MT, you are gonna have imp shield block :)
23:22.46NightHawkTheSaneer, one block per 5s, untalented
23:22.46Antiarc|WorkWell, yes :)
23:22.52Antiarc|WorkOops. My mistake.
23:22.59NightHawkTheSanetalent adds 1s to duration of buff
23:23.14NightHawkTheSaneplus there's like a.. 10s CD?
23:23.21yacoobjust a theoretical question
23:23.35TecnoBratand its 2 blocks with imp shield block also
23:23.38yacoobi LoD some large piece of code, for example table with lotsa text
23:23.39Antiarc|WorkShield block is nice, but it's not the godmode crushing immunity that some think it is.
23:23.44NightHawkTheSaneTecnoBrat: well yes. :)
23:23.46yacoobis there way to purge it from memory?
23:24.03Antiarc|Workyacoob: Ensure that there are zero references to it and it'll get GCd
23:24.11Antiarc|WorkYou can invoke GC, but that'll be not-nice to the client's UI
23:24.18yacoobgood, just as I expected.
23:24.24yacoobThanks for reassurring :)
23:25.27Antiarc|WorkThat said. Back to the original topic, paladins are perfectly viable MTs in 5-and-10 man stuff, and perfectly viable OTs for Maulgar/Gruul. I can't speak in regards to other stuff yet.
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23:27.47TecnoBratlol seriously, these socket bonuses blow
23:27.52TecnoBrat2 dodge rating?
23:27.55TecnoBratwho cares!
23:28.32Antiarc|WorkMost of the socket bonuses make no sense.
23:28.38TecnoBrathttp://www.thottbot.com/i28502
23:28.59Antiarc|WorkI'm desperately hoping for a REALLY big overhaul of most of the t4/t5 gear come 2.1.0
23:29.01NightHawkTheSaneI want to know what's up with the +agi socket bonus on the crafted spell damage LW set. o_0
23:29.09Antiarc|WorkNetherblade is...pathetic right now.
23:29.17TecnoBratNightHawkTheSane, aparantly that oneis being fixed ...
23:29.20Antiarc|WorkNightHawkTheSane: Payback for +spirit on Shadowcraft.
23:29.24TecnoBratI dont know for sure if that is the case tho
23:29.34NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: lol. And on Valor, too? :P
23:29.39Antiarc|Work*grin*
23:29.53TecnoBratand on all of paladins tier 1-2?
23:30.12Antiarc|WorkWell, spirit could be important for paladins, in theory, before mp5 became big.
23:30.22Antiarc|Workmp5 was really poorly itemized for a while there, IIRC
23:30.27TecnoBratThey FINALLY understood paladin itemization by t3, and gave us mana regen, spell crit, and healing
23:30.37TecnoBratpaladins get no regen in combat from spirit.
23:30.45TecnoBrat0 :)
23:31.03Antiarc|WorkWell, you can. You just have to not cast, which is difficult. :D
23:31.23TecnoBratlol paladin not casting = bad paladin :P
23:31.30Antiarc|WorkGranted!
23:32.45CIA-1103trh * r31222 10VanasKoS/ (5 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: added options in the portrait context menu for adding people to lists
23:32.51TecnoBratI still feel the spiritual attunement nerf coming
23:32.54Antiarc|WorkOne of my favorite WoW posts ever was the rogue who specced 51 sub and decked himself out in all +spirit greens
23:33.09Antiarc|WorkAnd his strategy was to beat on his opponent, then vanish and let the spirit regen his health
23:33.10Antiarc|WorkThen repeat
23:33.23TecnoBratSpiritual attunement no doubt will be nerfed to not work with overheals
23:33.27TecnoBratI'm almost positive
23:33.43TecnoBratI dont feel blizz intended to have a shadow priest regening a paladins mana with VE
23:33.46TecnoBratmaybe I'm wrong
23:33.50Antiarc|WorkRogues are going to be nerfed to fix an issue where they occassionally dodge.
23:33.53TecnoBratI just feel its not really balanced for healers
23:34.02Antiarc|WorkBC utterly killed my dodge rate :/
23:34.14Antiarc|WorkEverything has +ap on it now, which is good, but it has very little AGI, comparatively.
23:34.24TecnoBratwhich is retarded
23:34.29NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: strangely, as an enh shammy, i have the opposite problem
23:34.36NightHawkTheSanetoo much AGi, not enouch crit/ap
23:34.36TecnoBratAP = dont get the 10% bonus from kings
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23:34.41Antiarc|WorkI'm a combat rogue, and evasion only puts me at 83% avoidance. Pre-BC, I could pop evasion and be immune to a mob's physical attacks for 15 sec.
23:34.58Antiarc|WorkNow, it's just a slight delay in death.
23:35.16TecnoBratA 10 str, 10 agil item > 20 attack power, equiv crit rating of 10agil item
23:35.18Antiarc|WorkThough I did tank the Curator for the last 20 seconds of a kill last week, through an extremely lucky series of parries and non-crits. :D
23:35.34TecnoBraterr I should say ...
23:35.58TecnoBratA 10 str, 10 agil item > 20 attack power, 10 agil equiv crit, and 10 agil equiv dodge
23:36.30TecnoBratfricken all of the items are going to attack power and crit rating, dodge, etc. which essentially is nerfing Blessing of Kings .. slowly
23:36.46Antiarc|WorkMy AGI is roughly what is was pre-BC, if that tells you anything
23:36.51NightHawkTheSaneTecnoBrat: you dont think that's intended? :P
23:37.00Antiarc|WorkAnd I'm in all high-end blues and some Kara epics, all enchanted with mid-range gems in my sockets.
23:37.06TecnoBratyea
23:37.12TecnoBratI realise this :/
23:37.20Antiarc|WorkKings is really powerful for the stamina buff
23:37.27Antiarc|WorkThe rest of it is just icing.
23:37.31NightHawkTheSaneYeah. on my warrior it's worth just as much as a fort
23:37.44NightHawkTheSanemore, once you start stacking sta buffs.
23:37.54Antiarc|WorkI'd rather have might than kings for DPS, though I'll take both if they're available.
23:38.07NightHawkTheSaneWell, if you have more than one pally i your raid, they should be
23:38.42NightHawkTheSaneThen again, before BC, we had 1 pally out of like..7 with kings. /cry
23:39.37Antiarc|WorkMan, Blizzard really needs to fix the disconnect with their itemization folks.
23:39.46Antiarc|WorkThere is no way the itemizers play the classes they itemize for.
23:40.00Antiarc|WorkSo much of the high-end stuff is total crap, especially compared to quest rewards.
23:40.43Antiarc|WorkWe got the Shuriken from Gruul on Sunday. It's a) too fast to be used for throw/deadly throw damage, and b) has inferior DPS stats to a level 65 quested green.
23:41.13Antiarc|WorkIt doesn't have any sell price. It's so crappy that not even vendors want it. :D
23:42.10Antiarc|WorkAll the tier 4 is pathetic. 95% of it is sidegrades at best - a lot of it is a flat downgrade.
23:42.55Antiarc|WorkNetherblade gloves were actually a DPS downgrade compared to my level 67 crafted gloves. I'm only wearing them because they have more stamina.
23:43.07Antiarc|WorkAlso, re: kings, I wonder how long till they introduce "health rating"? :)
23:43.18Antiarc|Work"Increases your health rating by 36 (256 HP)"
23:43.20NeoTronAntiarc|Work: I took my t4 gloves because of the somewhat better stats + crit.
23:43.27NeoTronhardly a "stunning" upgrade
23:43.32kenlyricmy wishlist from kara/grull doesn't contain a single piece of t4.
23:43.42Antiarc|WorkThe rogue t4 pants are actually really nice
23:43.47NeoTront4 head would be a clear upgrade for me
23:43.47Antiarc|WorkBut that's the only piece I really have to look forward to
23:43.49kenlyrict4 too heavily pushes +healing for priests.
23:44.01NeoTronwell it only is 4 pieces
23:44.09NeoTronhave quite a lot of slots to complement with
23:44.23NeoTronthe most messed up T4 sets though are feral druid and dps priest
23:44.23kenlyricbut better things go in its own slots.
23:44.39Antiarc|Workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28796 - looks nice, right?
23:44.42NeoTrondps priest might be ok for a disc/holy dps priest
23:44.49Antiarc|Workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28182
23:44.53NeoTronbut not for shadow. feral druid is like a PvP hybrid set
23:45.19TecnoBratI've had kings for like 2 years .. so its kinda burnt into me
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23:47.24NeoTronAntiarc|Work: I'm using the dps-cloth hat from that quest
23:47.27NeoTronit's really nice...
23:47.36kenlyricof second sight?
23:47.39CIA-1103sayclub * r31223 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (7 files in 7 dirs):
23:47.39CIA-11FuBar_QuestsFu:
23:47.39CIA-11- Updated localization koKR
23:47.47Antiarc|WorkNo, the Warlord's Hideout quest
23:47.53NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28183
23:48.15Antiarc|WorkI'm still using Helm of the Claw, which is superior to Assassination, Second Sight, Netherblade, Night Watchman, and Malefic Shadows.
23:48.22NeoTron+55 spell dmg, 28 stamina, 27 int + head enchant from sha'tar
23:48.30Antiarc|WorkIt's really sad that one of the first pieces I got at 70 doesn't have a replacement in sight.
23:48.43kenlyricheh, that's some quest...
23:48.50NeoTronthe bracers I'm using is pretty much used by all cloth dps too
23:49.04Antiarc|WorkIt's like the Barman Shanker of leather hats.
23:49.05NeoTronthat's with a +12 dmg meta gem and +5 dmg/6sta blue gem
23:49.09Antiarc|WorkPre-normalization, naturally.
23:49.27NeoTrontoo bad it's so damn ugly
23:49.42Antiarc|WorkI kinda relish the fact that it's so ugly
23:49.49Antiarc|WorkIt's the same graphic as the Bramblewood helm
23:49.50kenlyricI got that hat and didn't know what to do with it.
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23:52.18NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: hell, im still using helm of the claw on my shammy ><
23:52.43Antiarc|WorkMy warrior is in half leather, as well
23:52.56Antiarc|WorkExcept on my rogue, I have Ctrl-W bound to Feint, and on my warrior, Ctrl-W is Execute. :D
23:53.01Antiarc|WorkSo I occassionally get myself killed.
23:53.21NightHawkTheSanehah
23:54.10RyakPrat error as of latest version - Interface/Addons/Prat/modules/Presets.lua: 50: AceLocale:(PratPresets): Cannot provide the same preset more than once. "enUS" provided twice.  Can I just remove one out of the lua file listed in the error?
23:59.09RyakHmmm search of the Presets.lua file only gives one "enUS", I am very novice when it comes to lua, any suggestions?

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