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00:01.44Guillotineanybody know the name of a good zip program for Mac?
00:02.06NightHawkTheSaneyeah, mac os x.
00:02.10Guillotineoh o.O ok. I know nothing about mac >< friend asked
00:02.37NightHawkTheSaneosx has the builtin capability to create and extract zip archives
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00:10.45Daemonawhats the recommended mailmod atm? still running gmail :X
00:11.40NightHawkTheSanei like postal, but as with all things, use what works for you.
00:12.24Daemonak, i need a mass-send and a mass return option aswell as mass-open ;)
00:13.38NightHawkTheSanewell, postal has alt-click to send, and lets you ctrl-click to return
00:16.52ckknightDaemona: and mass open is click the open all button
00:17.53CIA-1103zuno * r31038 10UnitActionBars/Main.lua:
00:17.53CIA-11UnitActionBars:
00:17.54CIA-11- Fixed a typo
00:18.11Daemonai am trying to cut down on the number of ui-mods i use and replace all non-ace stuff :/
00:18.18kergothgosh i ove yata totemsets
00:18.33Daemonaanyone else using ATSW as tradeskill replacement?
00:18.42Eternally777I tried it
00:18.43Daemonaor rather, whats the state of stitch?
00:18.45Eternally777Bad form.
00:19.08Eternally777Bad form @ ATSW, not Stitch.  But I don't know the current state of Stitch.
00:19.38Daemonaso any recommendations on tradeskill window replacement?
00:20.13Eternally777No replacement, but have you tried 'cgCrafty'?
00:21.04chuckgWhat's ATSW?
00:21.11chuckgYay cgCrafty plug!
00:21.12chuckg=D
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00:21.45Gagoriannymbia
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00:21.57nymbiasup
00:22.14CIA-1103fenlis * r31039 10VanasKoS/ (11 files in 3 dirs): VanasKoS: - Updated localization koKR
00:22.42Daemonachuckg does it have alt-click to link mats to current channel / whisper?
00:22.46Daemonacrafting queue?
00:22.57chuckgNo crafting queue, but you can link mats through it's interface.
00:23.05GagorianThe event you're using also submits as args what needs updating if it's a spell specific update
00:23.05kergothi like stitch + cgcrafty + reverseengineering or ingredientclicker
00:23.07chuckgYou can use fizzwidgets thing for that, it plays nice with that.
00:23.07kergothstitch does the queue
00:23.14chuckgOr Stitch.
00:24.13GagorianMaybe not for many heals really, but in general it's either "Localized Spell", or { "Localized Spell", "Another Localized spell" }
00:24.51GagorianBut basically, it's an update that only requires to update a specific spell
00:24.56Gagorianso you don't need to get all again
00:25.14Daemonano ace, no go ;)
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00:29.13kergoththere are lots of good efficient non ace addons, refusing to use them is just plain blindness
00:29.13kergothimo
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00:29.38Funkeh`kergoth, i only use 2 non ace addons, omnicc and necb, but i still prefer my addons to be ace, i don't like loading code that will only be useful to 1 addon
00:29.45VilentRikwhatever happened to fubar bartender2, the svns give me a 404 error
00:29.45nymbiaGagorian: yeah i saw that but none of the firings i saw when i was messing with it were anything but all spells... i'll throw filtering on there though, thanks :)
00:30.07ZealotOnAStickSo, anyone reasonably bored and want a minor little project that I can't do myself right now because I'm busy in SSC?
00:30.55Daemonakergoth call me lazy (for using WAU) and maybe bitchy about using as little code as possible for biggest gain ;)
00:31.55DaemonaZealotOnAStick how far progressed are you?
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00:33.27Gagoriannymbia: Yeah, not sure it applies to anything that would be needed to take into consideration. Blessing of Light for paladins would be a spell specific but it applies to most their heals so in your case it'd be the same.
00:34.08nymbiaGagorian: yeah
00:35.57ZealotOnAStickwe're playing with Hydross, we dropped Magtheridon last night and then started playing in SSC then.
00:36.17GagorianSSC sucks
00:36.25Daemonawe just did an "alternative" approach to hydross today...
00:36.30GagorianLoot is shit.. trash is shit
00:36.37GagorianBosses are ok I guess.. mostly
00:36.50GagorianNot tried Vashj yet though
00:37.19Daemonawe just put a tank into buffed 365 nature resi and enough def to be not critted and outtanked the sucker...
00:37.31Daemonamost layed back hydross kill we ever had
00:37.33Daemona...
00:39.03ZealotOnAStickouttanked the sucker?
00:39.18Daemonayeah, you basically draw him into nature phase
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00:39.23Daemonaand just keep him there
00:39.35ZealotOnAStickwon't the stacking debuff eventually get to stupid numbers?
00:39.42Daemonanope, caps at 250% ;)
00:40.14Daemona2 healers for his single target poison nuke, rest on the tank
00:40.32ZealotOnAStickNice.  
00:40.46Daemonawill be fixed i guess, this cant be intended :/
00:42.18Daemonaits basically making it a patchwork style fight with a random secondary target nuke
00:44.16NeoTronhow do you keep hydross in a specific phase?
00:44.41DaemonaNeoTron serious question?
00:44.45NeoTronnever been there
00:44.51Daemonaaah k :)
00:44.55NeoTronhaven't read any specific strats yet
00:45.10Daemonayou switch his phase by dragging him over an imagined line
00:45.19NeoTronah
00:45.32Daemonawhich includes a 100% aggro drop
00:45.37NeoTronand normally you do this due to the stacking thing
00:45.39Daemonaand 4 adds spawned
00:45.59NeoTronoh so you also don't get any add spawns when you do that
00:46.06Daemonayeah, he stacks dmg+ every 30 seconds or so in steps of 50, 100, 250% or so
00:46.06NeoTronexcept perhaps the first 4?
00:46.13Daemonaexactly
00:46.19NeoTronsounds.. easy
00:46.23NeoTronbut then again
00:46.27Daemonasounds patchwork like ;)
00:46.30NeoTronwith enough resist, a lot of fights got really easy
00:46.42Daemonawell 10 minute timer
00:46.43NeoTronso it might be intended as one option if you can take it
00:47.04Daemonawell it just became possible cause crushings were removed from his hittables ;)
00:47.19NeoTrondoesn't sound exploit-like - if they didn't want you to do taht they would just make it work like the 4HM where the debuffs becomes impossible to stay in for too long
00:47.25NeoTronah
00:47.31NeoTronso they nerfed the encounter a bit?
00:47.54Daemonayeah, i guess to make it a bit more "casual" compatible, but for high end raids, its now free-loot
00:48.00NeoTronso it's a "magical melee fight" too.
00:48.15NeoTronmeaning melee + crits but doing damage in some magic school (frost and nature?)
00:48.20Daemonaguess we will add it to the thursday loot night list, next to magtheridon and void reaver
00:48.22NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: yeah
00:48.25Daemonayeah NeoTron
00:48.44NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: which meant crushes with the debuff stacked on would lead to very large hits.
00:48.47NeoTronare the outside bosses 25-mannable or still need 40 as some strats seems to point to?
00:49.42NeoTronah well we need to get some more kills. ramping up but a bit slowly
00:49.42Daemonadunno, personal opinion, kazzak 25+ with 1.5 heal/grp and doomwalker rather with less, as you can outlast him but too many player will make it too hard due to lightnings.
00:49.49Brunersto train skinnin etc over 300 the cap is 45 or 55?
00:49.51Brunerslevel..
00:50.20Daemonadunno i dropped it after i hit 375 leatherworking :/ need herbalism for raiding :(
00:50.26NeoTronDaemona: it doesn't seem like a hardcore guild should have too much issues with kazzak. yet he doesn't seem to ever be killed on my server
00:50.41NightHawkTheSaneBruners: 50
00:50.49Funkeh`take the towers
00:50.51Funkeh`^^
00:51.06Daemonawell that due to the nature of the encounter.... every minute he will cast shadowbolts at twice the speed for 10 seconds ;) most times a wipe i guess
00:51.49Daemonaif you have to go through 2 phases it will be a wipe in 95% i guess
00:52.58Funkeh`yeah
00:53.04Funkeh`you want to kill him before 2nd enrage
00:53.19Funkeh`have your whole raid take HS/pots etc
00:53.20Daemonaas a rogue its one of the encounters i can laugh at...
00:53.30Funkeh`use HS during the first enrage to help ehalers
00:53.34Funkeh`healers*
00:53.35Daemonai just pull Cloak of Shadows during enrage :/
00:53.43Funkeh`rogues..
00:53.57Funkeh`nerf it now! :)
00:54.05Daemonathe single-most unwanted class in 5 man and 25 man currently...
00:54.15Funkeh`nerf nerf nerf!
00:54.24Daemonaas they dont do enough dmg for the dmg taken :(
00:54.39Funkeh`well 2.1 will help ya with the cleave
00:54.53Daemonasure.... (not)
00:55.05Funkeh`Oo
00:55.20Daemonaits stuff like mages/hunters/warlocks not requiring ANY heal while dps'ing on range without need of repositioning
00:55.36Daemonadealing the SAME dmg and MORE without aggro issues
00:55.47Funkeh`thats pretty dependant on the encounter
00:55.50Funkeh`but i agree about agro
00:56.14Daemonaits just a big fat slap in the face of any raiding rogue :(
00:56.29Daemonaleotheras whirlwind... 1 hit wonder
00:56.43Daemonavoid reaver stack arcane resistance gear or die
00:57.14Funkeh`its a tough life
00:57.23Daemonatidewalker -> mages and warlocks > all cause of ae capability
00:57.36Daemonaaoe...
00:58.23Daemonaand if someone comes up with a reasonable thread in the offical forums its closed cause someone feels like "you are so imba in pvp stop whining"
00:58.33ZealotOnAStickI want to find where in KTM it uses a status bar texture and change it to use LiteStep from Surfaces.
00:58.38Funkeh`levle 54 and spent 25g on like 4 new abilities on my warr
00:58.57DaemonaFunkeh` level 70 priest twink 80g on abilities ;)
00:59.18Funkeh`my main is a 70 shadow priest
00:59.25Funkeh`rich yeh, but still
00:59.33Funkeh`6g for an ability WTF?!?
00:59.36Funkeh`:p
00:59.43Daemonai like the twink shadow priest
01:00.09Funkeh`makes life so much easier as shadow, i can actually grind stuff
01:00.17Funkeh`have you tried grinding as holy? :D
01:00.33Daemonaa pity its alchemy/enchanting.... frozen shadowweave is so imba compared to "Primalstrike" leather set...
01:00.47Funkeh`++combat, your smite hits big bad elemental for 300, you die
01:00.51DaemonaFunkeh` you gonna laugh, smiting can be fun with a decent amount of crit
01:01.10Funkeh`i was holy pewpew for leveling, but its no good in raiding
01:01.52Daemonayou plain need ve/vt for competitive raiding... else those 61 arcane mages would be perma-oom
01:02.06Funkeh`arcane mages
01:02.10Funkeh`lol
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01:02.22Daemonawe stack shaman, shadow priest, 3 caster dps atm
01:02.28Daemonabest dps you can get, sadly.
01:02.32Funkeh`sounds about the same
01:02.44Funkeh`2xlock 1x mage shaman me
01:02.55CIA-1103gagorian * r31040 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua Data/Mage.lua DrDamage.lua):
01:02.55CIA-11DrDamage:
01:02.55CIA-11-Added Light's Grace, Fixed Elemental Mastery incorrectly applying to fire
01:02.56CIA-11totems, rewrote mana regen extra casts calculation (added the time of mana
01:02.56CIA-11regained during free casts such as illumination and elemental focus), Added
01:02.56CIA-11Master of Elements and fixed DPM increase being calculated slightly wrong from
01:02.58CIA-11free crit talents
01:03.24Funkeh`but i have had points where i out dps a mage
01:03.32Funkeh`not outdps, out damage
01:03.42Daemonahehe
01:03.56Funkeh`its good to test whos slacking
01:04.17Daemonawe had to make the shadowpriests stop using shadowword death on cooldown, cause VE + dmg taken from shadowword death is too much extra aggro :D
01:04.20Funkeh`but a shadow priest can be really beneficial to a raid when gear and played properly
01:04.35GagorianJust did a pretty nice heroic shattered halls.. Had 25 minutes on quest timer left when we finished.
01:04.39Funkeh`yeah had to install KTM ><
01:04.46JoshBorkeGagorian: nice
01:04.55Daemonawe forced KTM on all casters...
01:05.06Funkeh`we don't force mods
01:05.08Daemonacause the seem to not be able to control their aggro
01:05.10Funkeh`well we force it on tanks
01:05.12Daemonaon trash pulls
01:05.15GagorianThere's not much room for improvement there.. Didn't die once
01:05.23Daemonawiping the whole raid
01:05.28Funkeh`lol
01:05.34Funkeh`but ktm usually sucks on anything but bosses
01:05.55Daemonatalking about those big boglords in ssc
01:06.08Funkeh`well single trash
01:06.10Funkeh`single mobs
01:06.13Daemonaranged pulls aggro
01:06.26Daemonamob does bad ranged ae / moves melee
01:06.33Daemonabonus aggro of the tank is gone
01:06.39Daemonamore dead ranged dps
01:06.44Funkeh`but on a boss the agro is usually tank>lock> mage>lock>me>melee
01:06.49Daemonamore ae in healer melee range
01:07.34Funkeh`our mages usually just overagro and die, and we laugh
01:07.34Funkeh`most of them are gnomes so its ok
01:07.34Funkeh`ain't that right nymbia
01:07.35Daemonausual tank and spank aggro looks like shadowpriest > tank > warlocks > mages > warrior > rogue
01:07.36Daemona;)
01:07.48nymbiatrue Funkeh`
01:08.23Daemonahmm i missed out on the ferals place them between mages and warriors ;)
01:08.42Funkeh`actually we only have 1 feral atm
01:08.45Daemonauuh yeah and the occasional melee shaman
01:08.46Funkeh`and hes pretty inactive
01:08.58Funkeh`but when hes on hes up wiht the rogues
01:09.23Daemonaif we did melee stacking like current caster dps stacking .... i could compete probably
01:10.20GagorianOn a single target there's no way tanks can do enough aggro so I could go all out buffed (warlock)... It kind of eliminates the point of getting better gear
01:10.20Funkeh`shamans can't dps, make em all resto!
01:10.20GagorianCause tanking threat wont scale enough :l
01:10.20DaemonaGagorian learn to soulshatter? ;)
01:10.20Gagorianyeah, that helps
01:10.20Funkeh`actually in our guild our 2 dps shamans are pretty weak
01:10.20Gagorianbut I have to wait for like 80-100k threat to do it
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01:10.20Funkeh`dunno if its a gear thing ro what
01:10.20DaemonaFunkeh` shamans can dps... with blessings, ktm and ANKH :D
01:10.20Gagorianor it's wasted
01:10.21Funkeh`hehe
01:10.35JoshBorkeif i have 5/5 shadow focus, how much +hit do i need to always MC?
01:10.58JoshBorkewell, to get 99% chance
01:11.10Funkeh`shadow focus hardly means squat
01:11.17Funkeh`+hit is the real deal
01:11.37Funkeh`and i have no idea how much in the new wow terms
01:11.40Daemonaour only raiding enhancement shaman ->http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Mccarnigal
01:11.44Funkeh`but in old terms 5-8 is good
01:11.50xin?? apparently people in my guild were making snide comments about "my visor mod" I didn't write visor
01:11.54Daemonai guess hecould do somebad dps if he wouldnt die :/
01:12.11Funkeh`lol
01:12.14Funkeh`ank noob!
01:12.32Funkeh`he needs a MH might help him :DD
01:12.42Daemonamouseover -> it got no gfx ;)
01:12.53claviolawhat's a good mass mailing/mailbox improvement addon? bulkmail? postal? postman?
01:12.55Funkeh`i just get 'no data' rubbish
01:12.55Daemonafools bane + mongoose enchant ;)
01:14.15Daemonadid i mention i hate our maintanks attitude atm? less dmg more stone
01:14.26Daemonaergo -> less threat building
01:14.47Funkeh`we don't let out warriors have an atitude
01:14.52Funkeh`BUILD MORE AGRO FFS
01:15.04Funkeh`or we blame the hunters for not enough MD!
01:15.07Daemonahe can afford an attitude he is the raid leader ;)
01:15.13Funkeh`ahahah
01:15.18Funkeh`bad luck for you :P
01:15.21Funkeh`our rl is a rogue
01:15.25Funkeh`so they get it good
01:15.52Daemonayeah... currently its hard to get in grps as a rogue... melee ae sucks too bad :(
01:16.02Daemonahmm we are at the beginning again, arnt we? ^^
01:16.18Funkeh`lol
01:16.33Funkeh`my heroic groups consist of me, druid, rogue, mage, warr
01:16.44Funkeh`i don't usually go places with no rogue
01:16.55Funkeh`they save my ass a lot
01:17.11Daemonai cant think of a reason to not replace the rogue with another mage warlock hunter
01:17.15Daemonayes, hunter i said
01:17.25Funkeh`thats just convinience
01:17.30Funkeh`who likes convinience
01:17.34Funkeh`when you cna be hardcore!
01:18.36Funkeh`but ye SH heroic is hard wiht that group
01:18.46Daemonayou want hardcore? warrior, rogue, rogue, shaman, priest Blood Furnace Heroic, both rogue no imp sap
01:18.50Funkeh`takes some serious skill and attention
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01:19.09Funkeh`no imp sap wtf!
01:19.17Funkeh`go respec now!
01:19.19Funkeh`:)
01:19.48Daemonai wont respecc, NEVER -> http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Daemona
01:19.56Daemonaunless the talent trees change
01:20.31Daemonaonly thing that matters is raid dps.
01:22.18DaemonaDurholde Keep: Hotifx
01:22.18Daemona
01:22.18DaemonaWe've pushed a hotfix which corrected an issue in Caverns of Time: Escape from Durholde Keep, where Thrall would on rare occasions give incorrect text and halt the progress of the instance.
01:22.29Daemonayet another hotfix noone needed
01:22.30Daemona:X
01:22.46Funkeh`lol
01:23.25Funkeh`i think your spec is identicla to ur best rogue
01:23.28Funkeh`identical*
01:23.33Funkeh`our* ffs
01:23.36Funkeh`new keyboard inc
01:23.47Daemonapff i type on a laptop ;)
01:24.02Daemonawell i doubt you can squeeze any more dps out of a combat swords rogue
01:24.41Funkeh`http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-talents.xml?r=Arathor&n=Benji
01:25.18winkilleroh let me check, I'm combat swords too atm
01:25.50DaemonaFunkeh` tell him to screw parry and riposte ;)
01:26.01Daemonaand put the points into imp evasion and sprint ;)
01:26.14Daemonaand weapon expertise
01:26.18winkilleryuck, no sense to compare :/
01:26.33winkilleryour equip beats mine on nearly every slot except Latro :P
01:26.52Daemonalatro's is unbalanced.... with its 1.4 speed and stats
01:27.03Daemonaits too good for the current system
01:28.02winkillerhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aggramar&n=Tharabas
01:28.02winkillerdidn't bother respeccing since levelling
01:28.25Daemonathere is like 3 items i need for currently best available gear :/ trinket from gruul, ring from prince malchi and cloak from aran
01:28.53Daemonat5 isnt that overwhelming atm, but i heared t5 gets an overhaul
01:29.07Funkeh`nah
01:29.11Funkeh`only gems afaik
01:29.30winkillerI'm waiting for 2nd Assassination item
01:29.30winkillerit was enough for Attumen atm
01:29.39Funkeh`they are changing something with the gems and the tier sets
01:29.53Daemona2 piece assassination is fun with kidneyshot immune mobs
01:29.58Funkeh`imo the gear lacks in stats and needs gems to bring it to par
01:30.08Funkeh`it should already be at par and can ahve gems to improve it
01:30.20Daemonat5 generally lacks in comparison to t4 and even the new dungeon sets / craftables
01:30.36Funkeh`t4 for shadow priest is a joke, t5 ain't much better
01:30.40Daemonatell me a caster that would switch his spellstrike + shadowweave set for t4 in dps matter?
01:31.11Funkeh`but when i was holy
01:31.20Funkeh`i was replacing t3 with t4 and it felt like a downgrade
01:31.21winkillernever seen an ajax page fuck up like armory..
01:31.21Daemonaas i said before... compare shadowweave set with primalstrike... thats supposed to be the equivalent
01:31.36Funkeh`heh
01:31.42Daemonawinkiller it uses to freeze my mozilla 2.0.3
01:31.50winkillerI'm not fond of Primalstrilke
01:31.58Daemonaprimalstrike is a joke
01:32.02Daemonaa really bad joke
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01:32.06winkillerok, I recently changed from tribaö
01:32.18winkillerbut better primalstrike bracers than healing gear
01:32.21winkiller:)
01:32.28winkilleronly at 365 atm
01:32.38Daemonai switched too, just to keep up the hope that it will get fixed.
01:32.42chuckgIt's neat that a 10man instance has a higher itemlevel than world bosses and gruul's lair loot.
01:32.45winkilleryep
01:32.49chuckgThat makes total sense.
01:33.09winkilleroh, yeah it freezes a bit right noww
01:33.11NightHawkTheSanemakes sense to me
01:33.34NightHawkTheSanebut then again i dont agree with the pve progression = gear superiority idea. :)
01:33.35Daemonawell gear wise... if i could match and make gear for a combat sword rogue -> i would end up with no t4 i guess
01:33.41kergothwtf
01:33.51kergothyata's totemsets.. switching sets doesnt seem to change anything :(
01:33.52Daemonawtfth?
01:34.13Funkeh`zomg
01:34.20winkillerhow did you get to exalted Thrallmar, Daemona? endless shattered halls/heroic?
01:34.38Funkeh`thrallmar? horde?
01:34.47NightHawkTheSanethrallmar = honor hold
01:34.48Amadeoajax can go die for all I care
01:34.49AmadeoI hate it
01:34.52Funkeh`k
01:35.12Daemonai got a sore back ;) i ran blood furnace heroic with all those pvp caster that wanted the cast interupt thingy
01:35.14Funkeh`HH is one of the easier reps to get exalted tbh
01:35.22Daemonanot as rogue -.-
01:35.26Funkeh`the trash respawns if you don't kill it
01:35.30Funkeh`and you get rep per kill
01:35.32Daemonahellfire citadel is the worst place for a melee to be
01:35.55Daemonacleaves for up to 6k, 3 hit sweeping strikes for 2500+
01:36.00DaemonaEACH
01:36.00winkillernice equip Daemona, never seen so much tbc epics on a rogue till now
01:36.19Funkeh`nice dkp? :p
01:36.36Daemonaloot-council
01:36.50Daemonawe dont use dkp
01:36.52AmadeoAre you on the council?
01:36.53winkillerwhat's that?
01:37.14Daemonaraid-leader and 2 officer discuss who puts an item to best use on current raid and gear situation
01:37.57Daemonaif you are the only rogue and only competing with feral druids which share only little gear interest in the leather area
01:38.20Funkeh`only rogue?
01:38.33Daemonawe got 2 rogues left raiding
01:38.39Daemonafrom 8 during karazhan
01:38.48Funkeh`lol
01:38.49Daemonawe even had a lvl70 blood elf
01:38.57Daemonawho left due to burnout after leveling
01:39.08winkillerlol
01:39.10binderwtf
01:39.11Daemonawhen he saw that he wouldnt raid
01:39.11Funkeh`>>
01:39.12binderleveling is fun
01:39.33Daemonabinder -> not if you are in a pve guild competing for worldfirsts ;)
01:39.57Daemona2 weeks 0->70
01:40.28Daemonahttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Katherine
01:40.44winkillerbut why the hell a BE rogue?
01:41.12winkillerit's not like a pally that's needed
01:41.27Funkeh`well, who wants to be a troll?
01:41.30Funkeh`:P
01:41.41NightHawkTheSaneo/
01:41.46ckknightyea, trolls suck
01:41.52winkillerif it's for the looks, it's really a big fail :P
01:41.59winkillerbut I don't think so
01:42.00ckknight3 fingers, I mean, c'mon, how you gonna wield a dagger with that?
01:42.05Daemonahttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=264396811&sid=1&pageNo=1
01:42.06NightHawkTheSanei like berserking, personally.
01:42.13Daemonamy opinion about trolls
01:42.33kergothberserk is nice, my rogue is troll
01:43.05Daemonait totally owned on patchwork
01:43.09NightHawkTheSanei had a 60 troll rogue, and my shammy is troll.
01:43.11Daemonai never loved the acid more then there
01:43.12Daemona;)
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01:43.27NightHawkTheSanezerking + shamanistic rage = awesome
01:43.39winkillermy warr is the only troll
01:43.41Funkeh`daemona i think that post was as succesful as my post to rename sc and te
01:44.06Daemonaif haste wasnt linked on maces in TBC i would go and stack as much haste as i could :/
01:44.54winkillerFunkeh`: sc? te?
01:45.08Daemonasnd, troll racial, bladeflurry, bloodrage, abacus of violent odds, blackout truncheon, fool's bane
01:45.28Daemonahelluva haste
01:45.28Funkeh`serpentshrine cavern, the eye
01:45.28winkillerah
01:45.35Daemonathe instance "serpentshrine cavern" is currently known as "coilfang reservoir"
01:45.41Daemonadueling in an instance is fun though :D
01:46.11Funkeh`well i contacted wowhead and they diverting it on their end, also had to fiddle with carto and bw
01:46.15Funkeh`but they don't care so
01:46.31Funkeh`maybe in a year they rename it
01:46.38Funkeh`and we have to undo everything
01:46.56Daemonai like wowhead
01:47.08Daemonaits sleak, fast, good filters
01:47.24winkillerfinally
01:47.24Daemonaonly thing that sucks, it took them 2 weeks to add my only SSC loot ;)
01:47.47winkillerthe dark times with thott and allakhazam lasted long enough
01:47.55Funkeh`it should be instant now
01:48.11winkillerthott is best, where every second item involves a "hunter item" discussion
01:48.17trhdifferent behaviour in .xml gui code and .lua gui code by blizzard is evil
01:48.30Daemonawell
01:48.33Daemonano matter what
01:48.51Daemonaits 4 am
01:48.51winkilleroh, Arathor, nice - I had a toon there once
01:48.51Daemonaand i am supposed to be at the campus at 10 am :(
01:48.55Funkeh`^^
01:48.58winkillercampus? now? :/
01:49.02Funkeh`tbh it sucks
01:49.06Daemona<- germany
01:49.09Funkeh`wish it was a pvp server
01:49.10winkillerI pity you, I don't even know when it starts
01:49.14winkiller<-. germany too
01:49.39Funkeh`if i could move pve to pvp i would
01:49.53Daemonahonest answer?
01:49.57Funkeh`yep
01:50.03Daemonaeverytime i get ganked when questing
01:50.11Funkeh`not because of the pvp
01:50.17Daemonaevertime i am on pass afk in front of an instance
01:50.22Funkeh`because most pvp servers generally have betetr guilds
01:50.29Daemona... i would prefer being on a pve realm
01:50.35Funkeh`you wouldn't
01:50.45Funkeh`the shortage of hardcore raiders sucks
01:50.51Daemonathe problem with pvp realms is
01:51.04Funkeh`most of our recruits are xrealm
01:51.04Daemonappl only attack you when they know they will win
01:51.12Funkeh`heh
01:51.13Daemonaand being pve specced rogue sucks majorly
01:51.19winkilleragreed
01:51.33Gngngsksomeone should write a mod that will autocomplete abilities type /cast fl<tab> and it completes to flash heal
01:51.35Funkeh`well im probably gonna try leveling a char on a pvp server sometimes
01:51.41winkillerold 31/8/12 was much better in pvp
01:51.55DaemonaGngngsk who would want that?
01:51.59OrdogDaemona find some player from the other side on irc and hunt the ganker down
01:52.01Gngngskme !
01:52.15Daemonawinkiller 41/20/0 is the ultimate pve+pvp specc
01:52.25winkillerOrdog: on a pvp server? you wouldn't reach lvl 40 because if irc time
01:52.35winkillerDaemona: I said OLD - no 41 tier :)
01:52.51Daemonai never liked the sealfate specc :/
01:52.59winkillerI loved it
01:53.00Daemonai never liked daggers on the other hand either
01:53.07winkillerlvl 1-60 up to ZG
01:53.09Ordogdont you got a realm channel?
01:53.25Daemonabut i would specc dagger if i get a malchazeen and it boosts my dps :X
01:53.43winkillerdito (but insert any 2 72+ dps daggers)
01:53.48Daemonashould by a "the night blade" to bank it.
01:53.54Daemonaby/buy
01:54.21winkillerMillennium Blade is not a typical rogue pve mainhand imo
01:54.29Daemonasince riftmaker doesnt stack with warrior crap anymore since the thunderclap in defstance change.....
01:54.47Daemonatalon of azshara is neither, or do you need 120 armor on a weapon? :D
01:55.06winkillerwell, as long as it does damage, I'll take it
01:55.20winkillerplus Mill+Latro = badass look
01:55.31Daemonapre-raid best thing you can do is going combatfists
01:55.38Daemonawith tempest keep fists
01:55.57Daemonawinkiller you want badass look? i got 2 hope ender *runs and hides*
01:55.57winkillerI had nexus+void till I got those 2 swords in my attunement BM run
01:56.05winkillerhttp://gallery.art-core.org/d/645-2/Tharabas_Swords2.jpg
01:56.21Daemonathey cross so nicely on your back ^^
01:56.24winkillerI like it :)
01:56.53winkillerno way we would down Kazzak I suppose :/
01:56.57Daemonathe only good thing when you are the only rogue and the warriors prefer their t2 craft axes
01:57.11Daemonayou end up with all the shiny swords
01:57.24winkillerKazzak is 40man, right?
01:57.25Daemona.... did i mention... our guild has 30+ netherspite kills and no sword drop
01:57.30Daemonakazzak is 25+ ;)
01:57.43winkillermy guild has 1 (one) attumen kill
01:58.01Gagorian:p
01:58.11Daemona;)
01:58.12harldephinlol. i wonder how a rouge with such big swords can still be a rouge..
01:58.20winkilleryeah, I can read
01:58.27GagorianOn the subject of Kazzak... nothing is more fun than dropping a few seed of corruption hugs on the opposite faction raid trying to do kazzak :p
01:58.27Daemonaharldephin once you type ROGUE i will tell you
01:58.39winkillerthough I never heard of your guild a competing worldfirsts, sorry :P
01:58.53harldephinDaemona: just for you: "rogue"
01:58.56winkillerjust stumbled upon the page somehow, somewhen
01:59.26Daemonapff ragnaros world first (horde? overall? not sure, its so long ago :D)
01:59.56Daemonawho cares
02:00.21Daemonaits like soccer, 90 minutes, 22 players and at the end germany wins ;)
02:00.29Funkeh`lol
02:00.30winkillerwell, I started with wow when T1 was already widespread I guess
02:00.38Funkeh`its football mkay
02:00.39Amadeobest sport, don't get it twisted!
02:00.46harldephini tried to type rogue about 30 times and it came out as rouge about half the time.
02:01.07winkillerwow
02:01.13Daemonai still wonder if its harlekin or har delphin ;)
02:01.25winkillerI'm really lucky not to have your fingers :P
02:01.31harldephinDaemona: it's harl dephin.
02:01.39winkillereogue rpgue ok
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02:01.48winkillerbut rouge? no way...
02:01.54Daemona3 2 1 gone, 5 hours sleep here i come
02:01.59winkillerbye
02:02.02DaemonaRouges are overPOWDERED
02:02.11Daemona*vanish*
02:02.11winkilleryour /roster/ is broken
02:02.24harldephinmy paws are broken
02:02.38Daemonathe roster is on armory.wow-europe.com ;)
02:03.10Funkeh`nerf CoS
02:03.13Funkeh`in conclusion
02:03.25harldephinmy paws are at the end of my legs
02:03.33harldephin+s
02:04.21harldephinn8 daemona
02:08.06sbumahhh, armory is too slow :/
02:09.46Amadeolike all Blizzard pages
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02:17.50JJSheetscool.  I'll DL it, but I won't be much help debugging in raid/bg, since I never do them :)
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02:21.41Funkeh`rofl
02:21.47Funkeh`anyone seen 'the grind' ?
02:22.12JJSheetsnope
02:22.24Funkeh`http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=37103
02:22.29Funkeh`from myndflay
02:22.33Funkeh`you will lauhg your ass off
02:22.37Funkeh`laugh*
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02:26.41Kaeltenanyone know how to see what app is bound to a given ip?
02:27.05JJSheetslmao of the Hunki-Dori tribe...
02:31.11JJSheetsthat was some funny ass shit.
02:31.25Funkeh`aye
02:31.34JoshBorkeKaelten: on a linux machine: host 130.207.197.14
02:31.35JJSheetsespecially the little groupmates in a can.
02:31.49JoshBorkeer, <ip> lol
02:31.51JoshBorkehost <ip>
02:32.04Funkeh`we hax yo unow
02:32.14JoshBorkethat's ok, it's only a printer
02:32.19Funkeh`rofl
02:32.32JJSheets"You're Tall!"
02:32.38JJSheetshehehe
02:32.46KaeltenJoshBorke: that wasn't what I was looking for  I don't think
02:32.53NightHawkTheSaneI'm in UR Printerz! PRINTING MY PRON!
02:32.54KaeltenI need to know what process is bound to a port
02:33.10JoshBorkeoh, lol
02:33.15JoshBorkenetstat -tna?
02:33.29JJSheetstna?  tit 'n' ass?
02:33.55JoshBorkenope, not it
02:34.32JoshBorkeKaelten: netstat -p
02:34.50Bleeterman lsof
02:37.36Bleetereg, lsof -i  TCP:25
02:46.00ag`NightHawkTheSane: that's why I need to get a fax machine.
02:46.23NightHawkTheSaneag`: .. so people can fax you porn?
02:46.49ilifinnah faxes are fun
02:47.00NightHawkTheSanefaxes are so 1980's.
02:47.18ilifinfaxes are hilarious to fuck around with if you're arranging some largescale computer party
02:47.21JJSheetssomehow people still use the damned infernal pieces of shit.
02:47.34ilifinask people to fax stuff to your fax machine while on the scene having some show
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02:47.39ilifinall the shit you get, it's hilarious
02:49.47kergothckknight: it seems things get confused if two addons want to put a note in the exact same coords.  that should be allowed, now that you set up the tooltips to be able to show multiple ones that are near one another, just dont allow two points at the same coords from the same cart module, no?
02:50.01JJSheetsckknight, any way to lock the pitbull frames?
02:54.24ckknightJJSheets: not yet
02:54.41JJSheetsk, I'll just try to avoid the little buggers then... :)
02:54.46ckknightkergoth: if they use different databases, it's fine
02:59.50kergothhmm
02:59.59kergothmaybe this is the fault of the addons themselves then
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03:00.09kergothtrainers and cart quests are stepping on one another
03:00.29kergothi see one icon for the person, showing the quests icon, but when i mouse over it i see it was created by trainers, and it doesnt show the quests data
03:00.42kergothif i delete that note, there are no others
03:00.43kergoth:|
03:03.22CIA-1103trh * r31041 10VanasKoS/ (5 files in 3 dirs): VanasKoS: added cool flashy notification, fixed some friendsframe docking issues, one remains... i blame it on blizzard
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03:07.00Eternally777I'm trying to call the 'BuyMerchantItem' function, but everytime I call it I receive an 'Internal Bag Error'.  Anyone know what that means, and how to avoid it?
03:09.16sedatedChipmunkit means there's an internal error caused by your bags
03:09.17trhchecked if the index is correct and if place is left in the bags?
03:10.37Eternally777Yep
03:18.52Eternally777Bah, order of operations ftl.
03:19.42Eternally777'math.ceil(x-y/z)' ~= 'local w = x-y; math.ceil(w/z)'
03:20.09Eternally777I was trying to buy 53 stacks of an item instead of the 1 stack I thought I was buying...
03:20.35ckknightEternally777: use parentheses
03:20.48ckknight(x-y)/z
03:20.50Eternally777Yeah
03:21.05Eternally777I was scared to use them because of their lack of meaning in Lua itself.
03:21.13ckknightthey have meaning
03:21.31Eternally777In math operations only?
03:21.36kergoththey enforce order of evaluation.
03:21.38JJSheetsparentheses have more meaning in lua than in most other languages.
03:21.40kergothplain and simple
03:21.57kergothmeh, headaches ftl.  popping excedrin like they're candy
03:22.05ckknightthey also make multiple returns condense into one return
03:22.06JJSheetslol
03:22.20ckknight('alpha', 'bravo') => 'alpha'
03:23.05JJSheetsor, put another way, (unpack(t)) == t[1] == select(1,unpack(t))
03:24.12nymbiawell, select returns all args starting at the one you specify.. but yeah ;)
03:24.27JJSheetsreally?  shit I didn't realize.  :)
03:24.36JJSheetsokay drop that last bit off.  :p
03:24.44Eternally777Hmm, I never knew that.  The majority of the time I see them used is in 'if-and/or-then' statements.
03:25.16Eternally777But that presents interesting uses for them.
03:25.29JJSheetsusing parentheses to completely encase the boolean in an if then statement is actually very slightly wasteful, since it tries to truncate to one answer.
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03:26.20JJSheetsit's not a major cpu hog or anything, and even Blizzard has it in just about all of their code.  :)
03:26.48JoshBorkei hate not putting parenthesis
03:26.57JoshBorkehate hate hate
03:27.29JJSheetsI tend to not use them unless the situation calls for it.  of course I very rarely program in anything but lua, so...
03:27.44Eternally777Prior to learning that they didn't effect the output, I used them in 'if-then' statements religiously.
03:28.12NightHawkTheSanei still use them in if/else statements, for clarity
03:29.07ckknightI don't see how they make things clearer.
03:29.27NightHawkTheSaneO
03:29.32ckknightseems like using em too much would make you desensitized to places it really matters.
03:29.42NightHawkTheSaneI'm used to them there, so for me, it's clearer.
03:29.43ckknight'such as when you're affecting order
03:29.44JJSheetsif anything I can see how it makes things easier for someone used to programming in a language that requires their use.
03:29.59Eternally777ckknight: Can I put a function value in the 'max' field if the type of a value in an AceOptions table is 'range'?
03:30.11ckknightprobably not
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03:30.20Eternally777But it returns a number :\
03:30.58ckknightyea, probably won't work
03:31.04ckknightunless the spec says it'll work
03:31.23Eternally777Hmm, I'll have to handle it from a different approach then.
03:31.39ckknightyou could change the value of max
03:31.55JoshBorkenn
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03:32.20JJSheetsJust set the max value anytime it changes Eternally777, if possible.  :)
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03:34.40Eternally777Yeah, that's what I intend to do.
03:34.54Eternally777It's just less efficient that way is all :)
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03:38.10trhEternally777: then set the max value only befor the menu is shown
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03:49.29CIA-1103zuno * r31042 10UnitActionBars/ (UnitGroupControl.lua UnitGroupHeader.lua):
03:49.29CIA-11UnitActionBars:
03:49.29CIA-11- Filled in some missing parts for default frame support.
03:49.54CIA-1103zuno * r31043 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
03:49.54CIA-11UnitActionBars:
03:49.54CIA-11- toc revision update
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04:33.28kergothanyone else notice talented seems to stall doing an 'apply template' at 30 points spent?
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04:39.35JJSheetsKirkburn|afk, bah, those bastards had it listed as 5am to 7am earlier.  :)
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04:48.08kergothfoo
04:48.28JJSheetsckknight, http://ace.pastey.net/9385
04:48.49JJSheetsckknight, that diff adds difficulty color to the pitbull level indicator.
04:49.35ckknightcommit up
04:50.00ckknightactually, no
04:50.03ckknightas it doesn't work that way
04:50.04JJSheetsk
04:50.08ckknightthere's an actual function
04:50.14ckknightGetDifficultyColor(level)
04:50.18JJSheetseh... it's working for me.
04:50.39NightHawkTheSanewell, you probably just reimplemented GetDifficultyColor, more or les :P
04:50.44JJSheetsin any case, I pulled from svn, not dev, so I'd have to redo it.  :)
04:50.47ckknightfor a lvl 60, lvl 48 is green
04:51.14ckknightjust use GetDifficultyColor, I'd say
04:51.22NightHawkTheSaneagreed
04:52.00JJSheetsah.  k
04:52.16JJSheetswill do... then I'll commit.  After testing even. :)
04:52.43ckknightalright
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04:57.05CIA-1103funkydude * r31044 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (6 files in 6 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Item/Loot update
04:57.14JJSheetskrka, I want a syntax highlighter for WoW macros.  Feel up to making it?  :p
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05:04.29JJSheetsckknight, would it be better to just use the difficulty and white tags around the level tag in the Class.lua Module?  i.e. replace "[level] [smartclass]" with "[difficulty][level][white] [smartclass]"
05:04.46ckknightprobably.
05:04.54ckknight:-P
05:05.37JJSheetswant me to commit that change instead?  :)  or is the whole thing a moot point due to later customization yet to be added in?  :)
05:06.26xlviiwould 170 hit rating be enough to start raiding? i am a rogue.
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05:10.47krkaJJSheets: not really
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05:11.24JJSheetskrka, k, was half joking anywho.  :)  Macro's are simple enough that I'll eventually do it myself I think. :)
05:12.27Kaelten-Laptopello
05:13.57Funkeh`later
05:14.51kergothbah
05:15.03kergoth9 rep away from honored with thrallmar with my shaman
05:15.05kergothand out of thrallmar quests
05:15.15kergothand the server's too damn dead to run anything
05:15.20JJSheetslol
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05:16.06CIA-11GrindStatus:
05:16.06CIA-11- typo
05:20.13mjcenhancement shaman, two weapons with the same stats, one 1.7 and one 2.5
05:20.15mjcspeed
05:20.25mjcmuch higher top end on the 2.5
05:20.29mjcwhich one isbetter :p
05:20.35NightHawkTheSanethe slower one.
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05:20.42mjcwhy?
05:21.01NightHawkTheSanebigger stormstrikes, and more optimal usage of WF procs
05:21.09mjckk. :)
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05:24.10cncfanaticsyo ppl :)
05:24.17cncfanatics(exam in 2h, bleh)
05:24.25JJSheetsgood luck.  :)
05:26.00CIA-1103funkydude * r31046 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: deDE update
05:26.27JJSheetsnight ya'll
05:32.12kergoththere we go, got my 62 enh shammy the 1h axe from honored thrallmar rep.  bought 2.  itll do for now, till i can run some more stuff at least
05:32.38NightHawkTheSanei was going to get that, but i dont like how fast it is
05:33.51ZealotOnAStickart3mis: ?
05:36.44kergothbefore that i was using a witchblade dagger from strat and an offhand green dagger from the thrallmar quest :P
05:36.50kergothi'll settle for 1.9's for now
05:36.50kergothhehe
05:37.18NightHawkTheSanetrue :)(
05:37.24xlviii need to get exalted with thrallmar
05:37.27NightHawkTheSaneI had some decent green boe fists some friends sent me, so
05:37.30xlviistupid marksman's bow.
05:37.52trh_xlvii: just get into karazhan and kill attumen :)
05:38.29xlviitrh_, hunters will have priority on it.
05:38.31xlviii'm a ogue
05:38.32xlviirogue
05:38.35xlviii want the +hit
05:38.39trh_oh.. ok ;)
05:38.42ZealotOnAStickLOL.  USB Easy Bake Oven.
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06:49.53nymbiafun fact:  the /chatlist order (and thus, moderation privs order) in custom channels in-game is determined by character creation date.
06:50.19NightHawkTheSanehuh. really?
06:51.09nymbiayeah.. weird huh?
06:51.25NightHawkTheSanevery
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07:04.33sedatedChipmunkthat's neat
07:04.44sedatedChipmunki just figured everyone saw themselves first
07:05.20sedatedChipmunkdidn't realize that was how they determined mod transfer too
07:05.51sedatedChipmunkexplains why i alway end up with mod privs in my channel too
07:06.17Elkano<3 lfgcomic
07:06.40CIA-1103fatherjim * r31047 10loudmouth/loudmouth.lua:
07:06.40CIA-11loudmouth:
07:06.40CIA-11- Fixed a bug in line 1146.
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07:31.27Elkanothere aren't any screenshots for pitbull, are there?
07:36.26nymbiaElkano: there's not too much to see right now.  the code's prettier than the frames ;)
07:36.55Elkano^^ well, it's from ck ;)
07:38.08ckknight:-P
07:39.16SunTigerah
07:39.32SunTigerbut management code for unitframes without graphics does not do much.
07:39.42SunTigersure it looks like something. but not something very pretty.
07:40.08SunTigerand the first thing i am doing in the thing when it released is rebuilt the OUF look again.
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07:46.57CIA-1103trh * r31048 10VanasKoS/ (7 files in 3 dirs): VanasKoS: added a search box, searches in name, reason and owner
07:48.51ckknightSuntiger: like my other projects, it'll never really be released
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07:48.58ckknightthere'll just be a time when it's "good enough"
07:50.30SunTigerckknight, isn't that the case with everyone
07:50.36SunTigeri never actually finished mendeleev
07:50.43ckknightehhe
07:50.45ckknighthehe*
07:50.49ckknightit works for me.
07:51.04SunTigerits alway's been in some perpetual beta waiting for some other feature or change i wanted to make.
07:56.26packetlss...
07:56.39snurrelol, i was wondering who the f* SunTiger was, until I just whoised :p
07:56.41snurrethen it all made sense
07:56.50SunTigerhehe
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07:57.09SunTigerIts suprising how many people never ever get it.
07:57.30SunTigerthis is my work laptop
07:57.36snurreim tired, 10am and i just got home from work
07:57.45SunTigeri keep it on a lot, so i use this nick to save name conflicts
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07:59.52snurreguess i should sleep 3-4 hours, get up and raid, then sleep another 3-4 hours before i catch the plane home for my holiday
08:00.08snurrebut teh intarweb is keeping me awakez! :(
08:00.53SunTigerthat can be fixed
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08:01.36snurrenoes :(
08:02.03snurreargh, every day when i get home from work i struggle with typing smileys
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08:02.12snurreenglish layout at work, norwegian at home
08:02.55snurreso a work smiley turns out to be something like Ø(
08:03.22snurrewhich seems mostly like a drunk, sentimental cyclop
08:05.37SunTigerlol
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08:07.50snurrehttp://crit-happens.net/snurre/pigeon.gif
08:07.53snurresuch a lovely gif
08:09.17mitch0too small
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08:11.35snurrei know but it does the trick
08:11.35snurreoh, you were talking about the gif
08:11.35snurreyeah, it's a bit small too
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08:41.48CIA-1103ckknight * r31049 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - more fixes to the frame deletion
08:47.58Elkanodeletion? caching?
08:49.08ckknightyea
08:49.15ckknightthat's one big reason why PitBull is so efficient
08:49.25ckknightwhen a frame is hidden, all but one frame is recycled
08:49.40ckknightwhen it's shown, the frames are pulled from a cache and used
08:51.46CIA-1103ckknight * r31050 10PitBull/ (8 files in 8 dirs): PitBull - no longer expose the frames variable, instead provide :GetUnitFrame('unit') and :IterateUnitFrames()
08:51.53CIA-1103ckknight * r31051 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.lua: PitBull_EstimatedHeals - update for .frames change
08:51.55Elkanowell, ebb could be improved wrt frame caching a bit since I keep all frameparts grouped so if one bargroup uses icons and anotherone doesn't you'll most likely end up having icon frames on all bars. but it would need lots of caches to seperate the frames from the bars
08:52.06Elkanoand I don't know if it's worth the effort
08:52.29ckknightwe'll see
08:52.39phyberckknight: got any screenshots of PitBull around?  I used Cavity about a week ago, but it looks like there's MUCH more to it now.
08:52.48ckknightphyber: no
08:52.55phyberaww.  :)
08:52.58ckknightscreenshots aren't worth anything at this stage.
08:53.04phyberah, ok.
08:53.19Elkanothough it wouldn't be that hard to implemet thinking about it ^^ do you use a lib for the frame caching?
08:54.11ckknightElkano: no, just a few lines
08:54.16ckknightElkano: check out PitBull's code
08:54.20ckknightit's easy to understand
08:54.35ckknightit should be in lib form eventually, though :-P
08:54.46ckknightmaybe
08:54.48ckknightI dunno.
08:55.20nymbiathere's a lib for frame recycling up somewhere
08:55.32ckknightIFrameFactory or something
08:55.36ckknightit wasn't satisfying for me
08:55.40nymbiabut for the most part, you know what needs to be cleared and reset in your own frames
08:56.19nymbiamuch faster/easier in doodle to just do a local frame heap and only reset the parts of the frames that need to be reset
08:56.29ckknightyea
08:57.20CIA-1103ckknight * r31052 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc libs/): PitBull - add Dewdrop-2.0 to libs and TOC
08:57.29Elkanocan a frames name be changed after it has been created?
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08:58.32ckknightno
08:58.41ckknightbut names aren't important in reality.
09:00.53Elkanois t[#t] = x faster than table.insert(t, x)?
09:01.11nymbiayes
09:01.30nymbiadrawback is you can't stick it in the middle
09:01.47vhaarr#t + 1
09:02.27ElkanoI think ebb will have a hard time with 2.1.0 ;)
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09:02.41nymbiawhy's that?
09:02.55Elkanoprofiling tools ^^
09:03.22nymbiaah ;)
09:03.23ckknightt[#t+1] = x
09:03.42ckknightI stuck profiling into PitBull already :-P
09:04.18ElkanoI know, but wtill waiting for Blizzard's stuff ^^
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09:09.13DhragaHi all
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09:25.05Punkie`ckknight: I guess ag_unitframes are needed for Pitbull to look pretty atm? :o
09:25.23ckknightno?
09:25.52Punkie`check lines 128 and 178 of aura.lua
09:25.54Punkie`:o
09:26.18ckknightoh yea
09:26.28ckknightthat's not necessary, though.
09:26.38Punkie`okay
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09:27.33CIA-1103ckknight * r31053 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - for :RegisterChatCommand, a table is no longer needed to pass slash commands in, you can just put the values there, straight up.
09:27.35Punkie`is there any thoughts of the 'valuable aura' settings (I don't know a better word for it :( )
09:27.46Elkanockknight, same texture as Interface\\Buttons\\UI-Debuff-Overlays ?
09:27.51ckknightno, as I have no idea what you're talking about
09:27.54ckknightElkano: it's quite possible.
09:28.00ckknightElkano: I just ripped it from agUF's code
09:28.03Punkie`ok, an example
09:28.20Punkie`I would only like to see my own debuffs I put on a target
09:28.26Punkie`and valuable ones
09:28.37Punkie`such as... sunder armor, faerie fire etc
09:29.28Stephmwmornin'
09:29.30Punkie`i suppose they would be class specific, but I think making them user-controlled would be easier
09:29.37ckknightPunkie`: yea, you'll be able to control em
09:30.06NightHawkTheSanea nice robust aura module would be -really- nice. that's usually my biggest problem with most uf's
09:30.08Punkie`great, i just hate having to see loads of corruptions, CoA, fireball ticks etc :(
09:30.20Punkie`indeed, NightHawkTheSane
09:30.28ckknightNightHawkTheSane: it's modular, which means it's easy to hack on
09:30.36ckknightyou don't need to search through all the code to work on it
09:31.25CIA-1103ckknight * r31054 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull-Aura - now uses Blizz's texture for the debuff holder
09:31.42ckknightElkano: agUF's is slightly brighter, but I like Blizz one better, actually
09:31.52Elkano^^
09:32.09NightHawkTheSaneckknight: yeah, i know, and i dont mean you neccessarily have to write it. I'm just saying. :)
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09:32.44Punkie`~mudkip
09:32.53purlSo, punkie` i herd you liek mudkips
09:32.58ElkanoI wonder if someone will use ebb for watching target's buffs/debuffs ^^
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09:35.46Punkie`I don't even use it
09:36.04Elkanoshame on you ;)
09:36.19NightHawkTheSaneI used to use it, but it took up too much space.
09:36.32CIA-1103nymbia * r31055 10PT3Bar/ (. Bindings.xml Config.lua GPLv2.txt PT3Bar.lua PT3Bar.toc):
09:36.32CIA-11PT3Bar: Initial import
09:36.32CIA-11- Very basic (and very fast) little autobar-style thing that runs off PT3 sets.
09:36.32CIA-11- There is (and will be) no in-game setup (aside from bar positioning), see Config.lua for options. If it's too complicated for you, use AutoBar :)
09:36.41ElkanoNightHawkTheSane, you know it could be resized, don't you?
09:36.53Punkie`it's a huge block
09:36.57Punkie`thats why it takes up space
09:37.06NightHawkTheSaneElkano: yes, but if i resized it to little more than just icons, i figured what was the point :P
09:37.22Elkano^^ true true
09:37.27Punkie`i just use buffalo, does the thing that i want anywho's
09:37.35NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: same
09:37.38CIA-1103nymbia * r31056 10PT3Bar/Bindings.xml:
09:37.38CIA-11PT3Bar:
09:37.39CIA-11- Not using that Bindings.xml file, nuke it.
09:37.50Punkie`ebb looks pretty, but i it did get in the way for me when i installed it
09:43.50CIA-1103nymbia * r31057 10PT3Bar/ (PT3Bar.toc libs/):
09:43.50CIA-11PT3Bar:
09:43.50CIA-11- Add libs to toc and externals.
09:44.05CIA-1103ckknight * r31058 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - can now take strings as parents, instead of requiring a dummy frame.
09:45.24ckknightone nice thing about new projects is that they make me refine my libraries
09:46.37Sroshhm, I'm stuck at revision 31015 when updating from svn
09:49.35nymbiaPunkie`: yeah i was just about to dive into that stuff (not id'd)
09:50.15renchapKaelten-Laptop: ping ?
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09:54.55ckknightPunkie`: ?
09:55.05Punkie`PT3Bar
09:56.19Punkie`If it pop's up on mouseover, i'll be hitting it :p
09:56.27CIA-1103nymbia * r31059 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
09:56.28CIA-11PT3Bar:
09:56.28CIA-11- Hopefully kill inherited macro/keybind text.
09:56.28CIA-11- Hide empty buttons except when the buttons are unlocked.
09:57.45CIA-1103ckknight * r31060 10PitBull/ (8 files in 8 dirs):
09:57.46CIA-11PitBull - made profiling much easier, as it can now wrap an entire namespace instead of on a function-by-function basis.
09:57.46CIA-11- also made /pitbull open a Dewdrop
09:59.44Punkie`and a simple toggle tooltips on/off via the config.lua would be sweet also :o
10:01.45DhragaPunkie`, You would not by any chance happen to have a screen shot of Violation in action ?
10:02.28vhaarrgah, I should fix violation
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10:02.42Punkie`I don't use it, mainly because noone in my guild really uses it too :(
10:02.46Punkie`except ammo
10:02.55vhaarrit's not ready for use
10:03.14Dhragavhaarr, Mmm yes please do :D
10:03.16Punkie`but his dps is negligible anyway
10:03.30DhragaPunkie: lol
10:03.57Punkie`I was just under the impression that it was a tooltip from FuBar which said who did what damage (top 5) or so
10:04.57CIA-1103nymbia * r31061 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
10:04.57CIA-11PT3Bar:
10:04.57CIA-11- nil a couple more inherited handlers that're causing oddness.
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10:06.19tatarhi can someone tell me how to use babble?
10:06.31Gagorianfor? :D
10:06.38Punkie`vhaarr: can you detatch the tooltip from fubar on violation? it wouldn't be much use to me in combat otherwise, hehe :)
10:06.40tatartrainers for example
10:06.47tatardo i have to use with mendeleev?
10:07.43GagorianI don't get what you're asking
10:08.16GagorianDepends on how you want to translate stuff
10:08.44tataractually i dont know what is babble
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10:08.56Punkie`¬_¬
10:08.59GagorianWell that's what I thought :P
10:09.00tatarbut i see babble trainers and fishing stuff and im interested
10:10.17GagorianIt's a translation library for different languages
10:10.17tatarbut i couldnt see a web page about babble
10:10.17tataronly translation?
10:10.17GagorianIf you don't write addons then you don't need to worry about it
10:10.17vhaarr## Notes: A library to help with localization.
10:10.23tatarohh i thought its something that will tell coords for trainers
10:10.23CIA-1103ckknight * r31062 10PitBull/ (Layout.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - now uses a function-based system as the layout system instead of the complex table system as previous.
10:10.28tatari am not addon writer
10:11.11GagorianCartographer_Trainers would be what you want
10:11.14tatarbtw is there a faq page about mendeleev and pt3 ?
10:11.17ckknighttatar: http://wowace.com/wiki/Babble-2.2
10:12.29knarf-ckknight is pitbull in a usable state? :)
10:12.32tatarckknight you are the author of it ?
10:12.40ckknighttatar: yes
10:12.46ckknightknarf-: give or take
10:12.47tatarhehe wow
10:13.00ckknighttatar: it's a community project, though
10:13.10ckknightI just provided the initial spark
10:13.34tatarits nice to see lots of people here
10:13.43tatarworking for noobs like me :)
10:13.52CIA-1103nymbia * r31063 10PT3Bar/ (Config.lua PT3Bar.lua):
10:13.52CIA-11PT3Bar:
10:13.52CIA-11- Don't kill the inherited PostClick handler.
10:13.53CIA-11- Add option to disable item tooltips.
10:13.53CIA-11- Comment out example keybinds in Config.lua, don't wanna set those unless the user wants em.
10:14.42knarf-ckknight could I use it to go to 5 man heroic/nonheroic? :)
10:14.47Punkie`nymbia: <3
10:14.52nymbia:)
10:15.02ckknightknarf-: I wouldn't, because of the lack of castbars and the immaturity of the aura module
10:15.19knarf-ckknight i'll give it a couple of weeks more then :)
10:15.22ckknightknarf-: but I had been using it in WSG and AB and it worked better than agUF for me (since agUF is kinda buggy)
10:15.24ckknightpshaw
10:15.33ckknightcheck back in a week
10:15.37ckknightor maybe tomorrow
10:15.39ckknightone of those.
10:15.42knarf-hehe
10:15.43knarf-:)
10:15.54knarf-well the aura module is what annoys me the most about aguf
10:15.55knarf-:)
10:16.10vhaarragUF isn't "kinda buggy"
10:16.41ckknightvhaarr: it bugs out for me in battlegrounds
10:16.44ckknightso yes, it's kinda buggy
10:16.49vhaarrworks fine for me
10:16.50ckknightI use it in instances, though
10:16.53GagorianFocus frame also freezes pretty often
10:17.14GagorianAnnoying when trying to keep the focus seduced and the debuffs are 'frozen'
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10:17.37CIA-1103ckknight * r31064 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add focus to non-wacky units
10:18.11AKXHuh. What is PitBull?
10:18.23ckknightAKX: my UF
10:18.27AKXOki.
10:19.56adjonIs it just me or is http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/ sort of stuck at revision 31015?
10:19.56evlckknight: so what's the difference between PitBull, agUF and oUF? :P
10:20.14renchapadjon: bug with the sync script, i am waiting for Kaelten-Laptop
10:20.22ckknightoUF is haste's, not much work on it recently, and if there has been work on it, not on the wowace svn
10:20.37ckknightagUF is andreasg's, it's a pretty predominant one
10:20.46hastenothing on mine is on the wowace svn
10:20.50hastes/on/of/
10:20.56adjonAh, thanks renchap :)
10:21.11ckknightPitBull is mine, the difference between agUF is that mine is modular and has lots of crazy performance tweaks
10:21.18ckknightalso, mine is by far the most immature
10:21.32hasteimmature, how :) ?
10:21.42ckknighthaste: new, not in a mature state at all
10:21.49ckknightpotentially buggy
10:21.50ckknightetc.
10:21.50AKXDoes it say "poot" when someone dies?
10:21.51hastenah
10:21.52AKXAw
10:21.53AKXOh
10:22.01AKXThat would've been immature. ;)
10:22.04hasteyour is more stable then mine, I'm almost 100% sure
10:22.09ckknightlol.
10:22.19ckknightthe one thing that leans for the stability of mine is that it's modular
10:22.21hasteoUF is mostly written for me only atm
10:22.30ckknightand that one module doesn't touch any other module
10:22.31ckknightever.
10:22.44ckknightthe only way they interact would be through the layout manager.
10:23.11ckknightwhich is nice ;-)
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10:24.34knarf-i'm looking forward to try pitbull :)
10:24.46Dhragackknight: Any chance you can link a ss showing your pitbull frames (I'm at work atm but got verry interested ;) )
10:24.49knarf-especially if you can make select debuffs bigger and such :P
10:24.59_icetrainCan someone fix svn.wowace.com? it's stuck at r31015
10:25.05ckknightDhraga: it looks like agUF currently, a screenshot isn't worth much at this stage.
10:25.18ckknightknarf-: plan is to have it all be user-configurable
10:25.21Dhragackknight: okies
10:25.40Punkie`ckknight: hopefully the aura management 'type thing' will be great :)
10:25.46ckknightknarf-: also I like agUF's debuff highlight thing, I want that to be configurable as well
10:25.56knarf-ckknight Ye I like that too
10:25.58Nickenyfikenckknight: are you planning to write a castingbar module for PitBull or is that up to someone else to do?
10:25.59ckknighton arbitrary debuffs
10:26.09knarf-except for me having to show all debuffs to see Mortal Strike
10:26.09ckknightNickenyfiken: if you'd like to help out, I'd appreciate it ;-)
10:26.22knarf-thus having it highlight on curses, wich I can't do shit about :P
10:26.27knarf-am a priest :)
10:26.35ckknightknarf-: wouldn't you want the frame to glow bright red when they have Mortal Strike? ;-)
10:26.48ckknightor whatever.
10:26.49knarf-ckknight that would be cool :)
10:27.30knarf-also for buffs like the thaddious fight or the first boss in mechanar on heroic would be cool to make thoose buffs show more easily :D
10:28.06ckknightit'd all be user-configurable, with sane defaults
10:28.08ckknightthat's the plan.
10:28.26knarf-Sweet :)
10:28.33Punkie`yeah
10:28.41Punkie`<PROTECTED>
10:29.12knarf-i'm sooo gonna make unstable afflication start a sound saying EEEEP!
10:29.13knarf-:>
10:29.21Silviu-;))
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10:29.45Punkie`Don't make me set ugly female dorf on you.
10:31.10Nickenyfikenckknight: maybe but it would probably take too long :-P better if someone that knows how to do it already do it
10:31.16ckknight:-P
10:31.24ckknightit'll go in
10:31.30ckknightsoonish
10:31.36ckknightnot sure when that'll be, though
10:34.52CIA-1103gagorian * r31065 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .BabbleSpell-2.2: Added keys for Blessing of Auchindoun, Hellfire Superiority, Twin Spire Blessing and Strength of the Halaani
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10:37.36CIA-1103ckknight * r31066 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - added option to change status bar textures.
10:41.04CIA-1103nymbia * r31067 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
10:41.04CIA-11PT3Bar:
10:41.04CIA-11- Fix border texture when using sizes that aren't 36
10:41.04CIA-11- Use an overlay frame for moving so you don't try to drink things when you're positioning things.
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10:43.44CIA-1103nymbia * r31068 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
10:43.44CIA-11PT3Bar:
10:43.44CIA-11- Refix positions :OnProfileEnable
10:44.08CIA-1103rabbit * r31069 10!SurfaceControl/SurfaceControl.lua: !SurfaceControl: PitBull fix.
10:45.49CIA-1103ckknight * r31070 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - now save texture in database
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10:54.21mitch0check out http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=266056861&postId=2657629518  and bump if you think it's nice :)
10:54.32CIA-1103nymbia * r31071 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua:
10:54.32CIA-11PT3Bar:
10:54.32CIA-11- Vertex Color -> white
10:54.39CIA-1103ckknight * r31072 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - added allFrames table, which stores unit => frame, whether it's populated or not
11:00.29CIA-1103ckknight * r31073 10Babble-2.2/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Babble-2.2 - add Babble-Inventory (thanks, Daviesh!)
11:00.40Punkie`mitch0: do not want!
11:00.47CIA-1103rabbit * r31074 10PitBull_Banzai/ (. PitBull_Banzai.lua PitBull_Banzai.toc): PitBull_Banzai: Initial import.
11:00.48Punkie`anyway there's a suggestions forum for that
11:00.55ckknightBanzai?
11:01.07Loki|muhlink doesn't work for me
11:01.18knarf-ckknight aggro warning
11:01.21ckknightah.
11:01.37knarf-it colors agufs health frame red :)
11:02.07hasteLoki|muh: open it again
11:02.45CIA-1103ckknight * r31075 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - messing with profiles
11:03.20CIA-1103rabbit * r31076 10PitBull_Banzai/ (PitBull_Banzai.toc libs/): PitBull_Banzai: svn props
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11:04.48nevcairiel~logs
11:04.58purlextra, extra, read all about it, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
11:04.58nevcairiel~log
11:05.00purllog is, like, as piece of wood, or a record, or the opposite of exponentiation
11:05.00nevcairielhm
11:06.00vhaarrckknight: banzai works, but perhaps you'd like me to hook in some other way, I don't know.
11:06.21CIA-1103ckknight * r31077 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add locked option
11:06.23ckknightlemme see
11:09.59ckknightseems good
11:10.02ckknightcommit coming, though
11:10.02CIA-1103ckknight * r31078 10PitBull_Banzai/PitBull_Banzai.lua: PitBull_Banzai - change the global PitBullBanzai into PitBull_Banzai
11:10.06ckknight:-P
11:10.12ckknightthat's about it
11:10.21vhaarrmeh :P
11:11.04ckknightwait, bug
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11:11.14cncfanaticsyo ppl :)
11:11.16ckknightself:UpdateHealthbarColor("Health", unitId, frame)
11:11.29ckknightwhich leads to self.hooks[PitBull_Health]["UpdateHealthbarColor"](module, unit, frame)
11:11.40ckknightbut the first argument should be PitBull_Health, not "Health"
11:11.44ckknightwhy do you pass in the string anyway?
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11:12.17vhaarrwhen I just did ChatFrame1:AddMessage(arg1) it said "Health" no matter what unit was
11:12.20vhaarrand unitId was arg2
11:12.21vhaarrso
11:12.44ckknightbecause the tostring returns "Health"
11:12.52ckknightsince that's how AceModuleCore handles it
11:12.53ckknight:-P
11:13.01vhaarrright, thought so
11:13.20CIA-1103ckknight * r31079 10PitBull_Banzai/PitBull_Banzai.lua: PitBull_Banzai - bugfixing for the hooking behavior
11:13.24ckknightalright then
11:13.28CIA-1103rabbit * r31080 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Toggle PitBull_Banzai along with aUFBanzai.
11:14.17CIA-1103rabbit * r31081 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Revert things that shouldn't have been checked in.
11:15.45CIA-1103nymbia * r31082 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.lua:
11:15.45CIA-11PitBull_EstimatedHeals:
11:15.45CIA-11- Typo fix
11:15.45CIA-11- Use cleaner new wrap
11:15.46CIA-11- Implement OnUpdateStatusBarTexture
11:17.15knarf-and the modules starts rolling in for pitbull? :P
11:17.26ckknightlol
11:17.27ckknightguess so
11:17.37ckknightI tried to make it an extensible framework
11:17.39ckknightit's inevitable
11:18.10vhaarraUF_Banzai is old
11:18.54vhaarrjust figured I'd have it ready for when I want to test pitbull
11:19.16knarf-:)
11:19.39vhaarrwhich is not for another few weeks, most likely, it's not nearly mature enough
11:20.13CIA-1103nymbia * r31083 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.lua:
11:20.13CIA-11PitBull_EstimatedHeals:
11:20.13CIA-11- Don't stretch textures.
11:20.21knarf-Is Heraera's Clutch the best place to fish Stonescale eels? :>
11:20.32vhaarryeah
11:20.36vhaarrand even there it sucks
11:20.43knarf-Was just about to say it
11:20.44knarf-:P
11:20.47vhaarr^^
11:26.06echosblizzard seriously needs to put messaging restrictions on players level 10 and lower
11:26.18echosdamn gold spams are getting annoying
11:28.10knarf-mmhh SpamSentry <3
11:28.12ckknightagreed
11:28.57knarf-make it an option then :)
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11:29.29knarf-would suck not beign able to whisper others :<
11:29.36knarf-being*
11:30.51knarf-speaking of goldspammes, I just got spammed twice by the same person :P
11:31.04evlthey do that
11:31.07evlalmost every time
11:31.15evlI dunno why, probably to cover your chat window
11:32.03knarf-I usually only get 1
11:32.18knarf-But I got SpamSentry installed
11:32.19knarf-it works pretty well :)
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11:32.35knarf-think i've gotten a couple of accounts banned by now :P
11:32.44knarf-So easy to report them :D
11:33.17wereHamsterwhat does SpamSentry do?
11:33.37knarf-makes regex on whispers and such
11:33.53wereHamsterdoes it automatically create a GM ticket?
11:33.57knarf-nope
11:34.07wereHamster.. or why is it so easy to report the spaM?
11:34.11knarf-put it only requires you to press 2 buttons to report all the whispers you have recieved
11:34.12knarf-:)'
11:34.14CIA-1103ckknight * r31084 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make :UpdateAll() more expansive
11:34.18wereHamsteray..
11:34.51knarf-currently I got a total of 25 whispers blocked
11:34.52knarf-:)
11:35.15knarf-you gotta check the whispers too before you report them though, sometimes it catches innocent ppl :)
11:35.29knarf-usually I only have 1 reported at a time though
11:35.40knarf-And the gms answer quite fast :P
11:36.30Punkie`Can someone please nudge svn.wowace? :( I can't checkout PT3Bar *cry*
11:36.56CIA-1103rabbit * r31085 10SimpleChatMods/antispam.lua: SimpleChatMods: antispam: Fix blocking spam with numbers in them.
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11:38.26knarf-I think I got more eels by fishing pools of eels in azhara than by fishing at hetaera's Cluttch
11:39.30vhaarrobviously
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12:01.45CIA-1103ckknight * r31086 10PitBull/ (6 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - add Constants.lua, which modules draw information from. Currently just has color information.
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12:11.00kenlyricanyone know of any lootlink-type mods that let you just type the names of things in? I know KCI has that functionality (but it's broken), and the old enhanced lootlink could do it too.
12:11.28SunTigerludwig
12:11.37JoshBorkekenlyric: linkerator
12:12.00JoshBorkehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4550-FizzwidgetLinkerator.html
12:12.04SunTigerhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5174-Ludwig.html
12:14.13kenlyricnot dependant on a saved variable? how does it work?
12:14.58SunTigertakes your local item cache
12:15.03SunTigerthat blizzard itself keeps.
12:17.22JoshBorkefor i = 1,40000 do print(GetItemInfo(i)) end
12:18.24SunTigerhehe
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12:28.08doktoreasanyone play wow with wine?
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12:30.26kenlyricI went with linkerator, since I need the data stored in a SV (I play between two computers, and only sync my SV between them.
12:30.44kenlyricanyone here us msbt and know if it has a profile system like SCT?
12:30.50kenlyric*use
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12:35.08echosdamn it why do recursive functions have to be such a pain?
12:35.36SunTigerbecause if they didn't everyone would be using them.
12:36.30echossometimes i almost feel like i'm figuring out the time space continium of a black hole
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12:43.48JoshBorkekenlyric: pretty sure it does
12:43.55JoshBorkeechos: recursive isn't THAT bad :-D
12:45.06echostrue I just a hate doing it for multi-dimensial arrays
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13:27.31CyrezSomething wrong with SVN?
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13:29.33mitch0it doesn't have decent decentralized replication
13:29.37mitch0:P
13:31.02art3mislaugh
13:31.48CyrezIt's stuck at 31015. ><
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13:37.46JoshBorkeCyrez: what is?
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13:38.14CyrezThe SVN.
13:38.45CyrezIt's not showing any of the recent changes.
13:39.03JoshBorkei see 31086 on the svn
13:42.07Silviu-JoshBorke dev ?
13:42.32JoshBorkesvn.wowace.com
13:42.55art3misim just gonna start refering to it as 7
13:42.59art3mislike vi is 6
13:43.01Silviu-Revision 31015: /
13:43.12JoshBorkehm, maybe it's because i'm pointing at my local copy
13:44.05JoshBorkeno reason for dev and svn to be out of sync though
13:44.42[dRaCo]uh, latest aguf is broken whean it comes to people joining the party in combat
13:44.57JoshBorke[dRaCo]: what about the version on wowi?
13:45.13[dRaCo]prolly working
13:45.29[dRaCo]but I like beta-testing and helping the developers ;)
13:46.01chutwigaguf's been a little wonky for me lately, likes to spew errors into bugsack
13:46.33[dRaCo]version from yesterday worked fine for me... just the one I dl'd like 1h ago screws up
13:46.43Punkie`so revert?
13:47.00[dRaCo]sure, just wanted to report the bug ;)
13:54.40cncfanaticsKemayo, ping
13:54.50cncfanatics~seen Kemayo
13:55.26purlkemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (6h 8m 53s) #wowace (6h 8m 53s), last said: 'cncfanatics: Ahh, all is explained. I can't do too much about it -- closing a quest header hides all knowledge of the quests within from the game.  It's a bit of a pain.'.
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14:01.14doktoreaswich addon allow change Graphic settings while in game?
14:01.27art3misfuGFX ?
14:01.39art3misits got gfx in it somewhere ;P
14:01.57doktoreashttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_gfxToggleGUI
14:02.06doktoreasit seem that there's no 2.0 version
14:02.30art3misjust change the toc, should still work
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14:05.17Silviu-It is one gfx2
14:05.19Silviu-Or something
14:05.21Silviu-that works
14:05.22Silviu-:)
14:06.55cncfanaticsanyone know when 1.1.0 release is planned ?
14:07.48JoshBorke1.1.0?  wasn't that already released?
14:07.52JoshBorkelike, a long time ago? :-P
14:10.02CryectHe's really looking forward to Maraudon (I think that was 1.1)
14:10.12JoshBorkelol
14:10.31Nickenyfikenoh was Maraudon released in 1.1?
14:10.53CryectDIre Maul I know was 1.3 and th eodd numbers were normally the big content patches so maybe
14:11.13JoshBorkelol, i remember when maraudon was released
14:11.35Cryectchekcing the site :-p
14:11.35JoshBorkeit's so old i can't remember the game without it
14:12.00Cryectoh its 1.2 because they apparently released the game with 1.1 :-p
14:12.17Cryecthttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch-12-18-04.html
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14:13.33Cryect[09:45] <chutwig> aguf's been a little wonky for me lately, likes to spew errors i
14:13.36Cryectwhoops
14:13.40chutwigWHAT THE HELL
14:13.47Cryect"Alchemists' Stone effects have been changed."
14:14.01CryectI didn't think Alchemist Stone was off of beta ever
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14:19.54kenlyricpoor blizzard. "A "Looking for Group" channel has been added. Additional improvements in looking for group functionality will be added in future patches."
14:19.58kenlyricThey just keep trying :)
14:20.34chutwigwhere are you reading from?
14:20.40chutwigoh
14:20.46chutwigtime machiiiiiiiine
14:21.18kenlyriclink Cryect posted.
14:21.22kenlyricI love old patch notes.
14:21.32kenlyricMostly makes me think "Glad I didn't play then" :)
14:21.58Arrowmasterlfg system is such a failure too since by default (and thus the only way people use it) its just an old meetingstone queue
14:22.05kenlyricthen again, I've completely blocked out anything I did before 1.10. What priests call "The Dark Ages"
14:22.31kenlyricit fails on many, many levels. But, to be fair, all LFG systems require people to use them.
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14:24.35Arrowmasteryeah but the people that do use it just leave autojoin enabled and never browse to look for people with autojoin turned off
14:25.25pastamancerI'd rather not group with people that use autojoin, so that works out for me
14:25.44JoshBorkethat's ok, i'd rather not group with you anyway pastamancer
14:25.54pastamancer*shakes fist*
14:26.01JoshBorke*shakes foot*
14:27.00Arrowmastergrr fucking 11am class, i just want to go back to bed
14:27.07pastamanceralthough, between guild chat and two multi-guild channels, I rarely use /lfg
14:27.22JoshBorkei just don't play unless the rest of my group is on
14:28.03pastamancermost of my regular group quit right before TBC :(
14:29.08JoshBorke:-(
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14:30.59chutwigUS realms are back if anyone cares
14:32.46cncfanaticsEU ftw
14:32.53cncfanaticsall US players could be banned for all I care ^^
14:34.52JoshBorkecncfanatics: :-P
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14:35.15chutwigwhy did the belgian space shuttle program fail
14:35.27chutwigthey only got to five hundred feet before they ran out of coal
14:35.33chutwigba-dum tssssssssh
14:35.39kenlyricI was going to go with a waffle answer.
14:35.44cncfanaticschutwig, i'm belgian ;)
14:35.49chutwigcncfanatics: i know ;)
14:36.12cncfanaticschutwig, how u know that ? :
14:36.28JoshBorkethat's ok, all EU players are second class wow players anyway
14:36.30JoshBorkethey get no love
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14:36.53chutwigcncfanatics: because your hostname says so
14:37.00cncfanaticschutwig, nref
14:37.48chutwigcncfanatics@ikhouvanwafel.be
14:38.01cncfanaticssure
14:38.19cncfanaticsn=cncfanat@39.74-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be actualy
14:38.27chutwigi liked mine more
14:38.44cncfanaticsnerf wafels
14:38.45chutwigno self-respecting belgian would dare be caught not loving waffles
14:39.04cncfanaticswaffles, beer, chocolate, what more do u need ?
14:39.10chutwignichts
14:39.13cncfanaticshot girls too, hmmm, belgium lacks that
14:39.33cncfanaticsexcept for a few :)
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14:55.57Industrialmmm noodle soup
14:57.09xyuwoot i think i just got into spellborn beta
14:57.43winkillerspellwhat?
14:58.01xyuChronicals of spellborn
14:58.05xyummo
14:58.07IndustrialOMG zoomjr
14:58.11Industrialxyu: *
14:58.12Industrialcool
14:58.46IndustrialI left their forums after some time of having made suggestions (all unanswered)
14:58.51Industrialstopped caring :P
14:58.52CIA-1103roartindon * r31087 10RapidCast/: RapidCast: Initial import
14:59.15Industrialtheir artwork is weiiiiird though
14:59.28xyuyeah
15:01.01xyui'm not big on eyecandy.  even if i do have top of the line vid card, cpu, tons of ram, i still usually set all my settings to Cartoon hitboxes running around
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15:01.44CIA-1103roartindon * r31088 10RapidCast/ (5 files): RapidCast: Originally AceCast. Also added eCastingBar support
15:01.54xyu./r_picmip 5 ftw
15:02.59CIA-1103roartindon * r31089 10AceCast/: AceCast: Removed. Now called RapidCast
15:04.00Kirkburn|afkJust went to find out what the hell PitBull was. I like how ckk had an entire thread to choose a name, then he goes with something else :P
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15:06.00JoshBorkelol
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15:08.22rgoblehey guys i'm taking my first stab at making an addon, and i'm wondering how can I get the info from the tool tip that appers when you mouse over an item?
15:09.11JoshBorkergoble: what are you trying to get specifically?
15:09.52rgoblethe item stats, +Agility,str,etc
15:10.10rgoblebasicly i want to write an addon that calculates AEP for an item
15:10.12JoshBorkelook at the mod called Bonuses, it scans tooltips
15:10.16rgoblenow I know theres one out there that already does it
15:10.28AmadeoDoes anyone use Opera as their primary browser?
15:10.28rgoblebut thats not helping me learn it for myself :)
15:10.38Punkie`Amadeo: yes
15:10.52AmadeoDoes Armory work for you at all?
15:11.05Punkie`it does, why?
15:11.18rgobleI've got Jubei AEP addon already, and it looks like its using the XML stuff to call the code in the LUA
15:11.26AmadeoIt won't work for me at all, I'm wondering if I need something
15:11.31Punkie`it kind of loads from right to left ro some reason
15:11.32Amadeoit just freezes up
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15:11.38Amadeopage loads, can't click anything
15:11.43Amadeoyou can type in the box, but that's it
15:11.50Punkie`weird
15:11.53rgoblebased on the tutorila code from the website it doesn't really tell me much about using the XML stuff, not that it seems very hard to figure out
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15:12.01Punkie`9.10?
15:12.06rgobleAmadeo: i've got a toon it tells me is inactive, even though i log him in everyday
15:12.06Amadeoyeah, I tried the beta too
15:12.19Amadeorgoble: hehe
15:12.30xyuSame has happened to me but if i just try 2-3 times it usually works
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15:12.55rgoblei wonder how long before they try to charge to use it like Sony did for EQ2
15:13.06Punkie`I just checked opera:config
15:13.15xyuI doubt they will personally.
15:13.22Punkie`I just have SWF and Adobe
15:13.24AmadeoI don't think they will either
15:13.33AmadeoPunkie`: I'll try getting SWF again
15:13.36xyuEQ2 needs the money :P
15:14.00rgobleat this point I still like WowRoster better, you can actually post links to your toon that work
15:14.18rgobleand it shows quests/recepies/etc that the armory doesn't
15:14.23xyuRupture is also similar but it requires some work from you
15:14.30xyumore like facebook
15:14.50AmadeoPunkie`: You ever have strange Opera issues, like sometimes you'll put in a URL and it kind of just hangs for a bit, then finally decides to load?  Or you load a page, but it hangs on some of the pictures on the page and doesn't finish loading for a few minutes or so?
15:15.11Punkie`Nothing as bad as that
15:15.30AmadeoI've been having that stuff for a long time
15:15.52Punkie`The only problem I have is if there is an anchor on the page which I am trying to get to via a link or so, and there's a broken image, it will take a long time for Opera to go down to the bottom of the page
15:16.06Punkie`I'm even using opera for IRC :p
15:16.14abbat-wdamn ;)
15:16.18abbat-wxyu ;)
15:16.30abbat-wi can't read you nickname w/o laugh ;)
15:16.34xyuhaha
15:16.37Amadeohehe
15:16.40xyuYou must be russian
15:16.47xyuor know it
15:16.48abbat-wi'm russian, yep ;)
15:16.56abbat-whahaha ;)
15:17.06Punkie`I don't get it!
15:17.12abbat-wand i think i'm not first ;)
15:17.22xyunope, my wow name has been reported
15:17.32xyubecause it is also Xyu
15:17.34abbat-wAhahah ;)
15:17.42xyui had to fight pretty hard to get it back.
15:17.57Punkie`So, what's the funny meaning?
15:17.57abbat-wAnd you get it back?
15:18.02xyuyeah
15:18.15abbat-wPunkie, "xyu" is like "dick" :)
15:18.17xyuPunkie`: I found out back in UO that apparently it means Dick
15:18.20xyuin russian
15:18.22krkaxyu = find?
15:18.25Punkie`haha
15:18.35xyumind you, this is after i already had it plastered on my car liscense plate
15:18.38krkagoogle translate was wrong then
15:18.52abbat-wAhha, nice ;))))
15:18.58Punkie`I searched it on google
15:19.02Punkie`even google images
15:19.02xyukrka well the russian way to right it is a little different.  XyN and the N is backwards
15:19.04xyuw/ a little line above it.
15:19.07abbat-wcar plate with 'xuy' ;)
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15:19.11Punkie`lucky i didnt get a penis picture
15:20.00CIA-1103rabbit * r31090 10BigWigs/SC/ (Karathress.lua Morogrim.lua): BigWigs: SC: Add some more abilities and timers for Karathress and Morogrim.
15:20.06vhaarrKaelten-Laptop: ping
15:20.08vhaarrpastamancer: ping
15:20.13pastamancervhaarr: yo
15:20.25vhaarrpastamancer: the read-only svn seems stuck on 31015
15:20.32vhaarrwhile the dev svn is at 31090
15:20.50renchapi know vhaarr
15:20.57renchapi wait for Kaelten-Laptop
15:21.15renchapthe dev server stops sending sync requests
15:21.16xyuhttp://www.afraidyet.net/forums/images/avatars/6738451314182cfb9da7b8.jpg
15:21.44xyucheck that out abbat-w ^^
15:21.58Punkie`that's a backwards N
15:22.00Punkie`<PROTECTED>
15:22.10xyuthat's how it's written in russian
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15:22.54abbat-wi can make picture ;)
15:23.00nuoHepxuy, who made that?
15:23.44xyui'm not sure, i just use it as my forum avatar
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15:26.07abbat-wcow.efnet.org/~abbat/xyu.jpg
15:26.16abbat-wthis is cyr font ;)
15:27.18krkai used to write stuff backwards when i was a small kid... does this mean that russians never grow up?
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15:28.28xyui worked with a girl from somewhere in siberia.  I tried to get her to tell me how to pronounce it but she was too shy to tell me.  
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15:28.29nuoHepyeah. we are big kids. and we also have bears roaming on streets and singing some dumb songs :/
15:28.50abbat-w;)
15:29.03abbat-wmaybe 'khui'
15:29.10xyushe finally did at the end of the summer but she like whispered it.
15:30.08compzololIs there any easytouse library for creating timer bars?
15:30.17nuoHepcandy
15:30.29compzololokay thanks will look into it
15:30.50CIA-1103shieldb * r31091 10Incubator/ (12 files in 2 dirs):
15:30.50CIA-11Incubator: initial commit
15:30.51CIA-11- Mob respawn timers
15:30.51nuoHepcompzolol, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar-2.0
15:31.08shieldbwoo
15:32.45vhaarrshieldb: credit me, please
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15:33.28shieldbdid you end up creating my svn account? :)
15:33.42vhaarrshieldb: No, but I made the code you copied.
15:33.48shieldbheh
15:33.54ravagernlim getting an error trying to use antiarcs sig generator :(
15:35.10pastamancerpublic svn should be synced on the next commit
15:35.37vhaarrgoody
15:35.40renchapi can sync it now
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15:43.05compzololSorry for being a newbie but I get the error "Library "CandyBar-2.0" does not exist", i have put it in my .toc and i call it with 'myAddon = = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceOO-2.0", "CandyBar-2.0")'
15:43.34Punkie`Have you downloaded the candybar-2.0 library?
15:43.46compzololyep
15:44.06compzololIt's in my Libs-map
15:44.41Punkie`disembed it
15:45.15compzololI tried that, then it said that the function RegisterCandyBar wasn't working
15:45.43Antiarc|Workravagernl: Can you elaborate?
15:45.55ravagernlI get a 303
15:46.05ravagernland its really slow too :P
15:46.08vhaarrcompzolol: There are about 20 mods on the SVN using the CandyBar library.
15:46.13vhaarrcompzolol: I'm sure you can find help there.
15:46.19compzololOkay
15:46.29Antiarc|Workravagernl: The tool or the generated image?
15:46.35ravagernltool
15:46.56ravagernlthe ajax thing is giving me 303
15:47.07Antiarc|WorkHm. Seems to be working/responsive here.
15:47.21Antiarc|WorkBrowser?
15:48.20Punkie`compzlol: Look at EyeCandy, it should help out
15:48.27Punkie`+o
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15:48.37Antiarc|WorkHit it again if you would - I'm tailing the log now.
15:49.25ravagernlit takes forever to load :(
15:49.45compzololBtw, is there any "in_array" function in lua? that checks if a certain thing is in the array
15:49.53vhaarrno
15:50.06compzololhrm okay, that would be very useful
15:50.17Antiarc|Workravagernl: Maybe a proxy issue between you and it?
15:50.17vhaarrhttp://lua-users.org/wiki/TablesTutorial
15:50.23Antiarc|WorkIt's very responsive on my end.
15:50.39ravagernlhmm
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15:50.45Punkie`I just used it, works fine
15:50.55Funkeh`hi all
15:51.17Punkie`Antiarc|Work: Add a tickbox 'Show Rank'
15:51.24Punkie`I'm so ashamed :<
15:51.29Antiarc|WorkHeheheh
15:51.41Antiarc|WorkI'm gonna be adding more features/options like that soon :)
15:53.15ravagernlantiarc: im getting Redirect: 303 See Other http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/create_sig.php
15:53.46vhaarrhey funk
15:53.47Antiarc|WorkI'm tailing the logs grepping for 303s, but I'm not seeing any hits with that status code
15:53.59Antiarc|WorkThis tells me that it might be a proxy issue in between your machine and mine
15:54.44ravagernlIm not using any proxy or something
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15:55.00Punkie`could be your DNS then, gogo openDNS :p
15:55.50AmadeoI use OpenDNS also, had some problems with the sig site
15:55.50Amadeohehe
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15:56.11Amadeohaven't tried it since though
15:56.25Punkie`Amadeo, your computer is borked :P
15:57.34Amadeonah, I think the hosting is weird :P
15:59.19Industriali also cant get the sig
15:59.31Industrialor anything nyud.net
15:59.35Amadeoyeah
15:59.36Amadeothat was my problem
16:00.00ravagernlshould I actually saw indy's sig and I want one also
16:01.00Amadeowow.tachyonsix.com.nyud.net:8080
16:01.02Amadeoweird URL :P
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16:04.23Amadeokergoth: I'm still having some weird energy ticks in kEnergy
16:05.31ravagernlAntiarc|work, cant find the server, restarting?
16:05.58Antiarc|WorkNo, it's still up and online.
16:06.42Antiarc|WorkAmadeo: That's the coral cache. It keeps my machine from buckling under the strain of hundreds of thousands of hits per day.
16:06.57Antiarc|WorkIt isn't accessable if your provider blocks incoming on port 8080, though
16:07.42ravagernlI set the sig using _GET but how are you decoding $_GET['si']? cant set a custom avatar
16:08.30AmadeoAntiarc|Work: Yeah, I dunno, I was just under the impression I was the only one...I'm glad I'm not alone ;)
16:09.28Antiarc|WorkThe "si" parameter is just a URL. I download and cache the image and then use it in the sig generation.
16:10.10ravagernlantiarc|work: http://tinyurl.com/28cwyd trying to set a custom avatar there
16:10.10Antiarc|Workaah, that won't work. My regex checks for URLs ending in gif/jpg/png
16:10.35AmadeoI see that avatar link
16:10.39ravagernldoh, ofc, thats a html page
16:10.41ravagernllol
16:11.11AmadeoBeetleblink
16:11.49ravagernlhttp://tinyurl.com/2xjrlv hihi
16:11.55ravagernlyeah, haha :P
16:12.34CIA-1103shieldb * r31092 10Incubator/ (. Incubator.toc):
16:12.34CIA-11Incubator:
16:12.34CIA-11- toc updates
16:13.06AmadeoI guess you'd be a...Buttername :P
16:14.47CIA-1103ammo * r31093 10PitBull/ (Constants.lua Mana/Mana.lua): PitBull: fix color constants.
16:14.48ravagernlI used a random name generator for fairies
16:16.13AmadeoAntiarc|Work: You should get Blizzard to host it, then you'd have freedom to bloat the page up as much as you possibly can, as if you're trying to stress the servers as much as possible ;)
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16:16.18AmadeoJust like they do!
16:16.36Antiarc|WorkIf they will host it, I will bloat it up. :)
16:16.56Antiarc|WorkBut as long as it's on the same connection that I try to play WoW with, I'm gonna be aggressive with the caching.
16:17.51Amadeohehe
16:18.01AmadeoI've still never understood that about Blizzard's pages
16:18.21AmadeoI purposely avoid them as much as possible, and I'm sad that I'm forced to deal with those forums :P
16:18.36shieldbAntiarc|Work, does sanity2 have a "purge this character" option or am I better off just dumping all my sanity info and logging on to each of my characters once?
16:18.54Antiarc|Workshieldb: Yes, it should have an option in there somewhere.
16:19.30shieldbI guess I'll just look again tonight when I'm home :)
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16:22.32CIA-1103funkydude * r31094 10Babble-2.2/babblelod.bat: Babble-2.2: fix bat file
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16:27.21KemayoUbuntu's user-friendliness abruptly ended when I tried to use WPA with the wireless card I just put into this machine...
16:27.46AmadeoDid it become into a Slackware demon?
16:28.00moonsorrowdo you mean because of wpa or because of the wireless card?
16:28.41deltronwhat release?
16:28.46KemayoWPA -- the card itself was detected and installed fine.  It's just that the graphical tools don't seem to provide any support for WPA, at least with this driver.
16:28.52Kemayodeltron: Feisty.
16:29.06moonsorrowthen choose another one, for me, wpa works flawless
16:29.32moonsorroware you using gnome?
16:29.37Tornhoofmany cards with semi closed drivers don't support wap
16:29.49deltronI did WPA with feisty last night
16:30.00KemayoWell, WPA works fine... it's just not very user-friendly to have to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to configure it.
16:30.03Kemayomoonsorrow: Yup.
16:30.20deltronfeisty is really nice though
16:30.21moonsorrowtried network-manager-gnome?
16:30.30AmadeoI honestly haven't been particularly impressed with one distro over another, or any in general.  I had problems with all that I tried, and I think that I stick with Ubuntu mainly because the problems are easier to fix, since more people use the distro and have information on how to fix it
16:30.47AmadeoOther than that, I never felt like Ubuntu brought me so much more than another
16:31.09deltronI used to use debian
16:31.20deltronso ubuntu is very familiar to me
16:31.37Kemayomoonsorrow: I haven't explicitly tried that -- just whatever is in the system menu.
16:31.44moonsorrowinstall it
16:31.48moonsorrowit supports wpa
16:31.55moonsorrowand is very easy to use
16:32.21KemayoIt's sort of amusing to check the help page for the chipset: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500
16:32.40AmadeoGetting help for any of the distros is still a hassle...for Ubuntu, most of the users seem to be like me, pretty clueless...getting knowledgeable help can be difficult, and for other distros, they just cut you down and ban you or whatever, they don't want to help :P
16:32.43KemayoIf WEP: click this!  If WPA: open a terminal, and...
16:33.19Kemayomoonsorrow: I appear to already have it, so I assume it's the network manager tool in the settings menu.
16:33.27moonsorrowno
16:34.26KemayoAh, wait, it's the thing in the tray.  It's still what I've been using.
16:34.45moonsorrowbut then you can enter your wpa key
16:35.04KemayoNot if the dropdown doesn't give me an option for it, I can't.
16:35.20moonsorrowmaybe something is missing
16:35.21art3misyay ra2500!
16:35.36art3missuse 10.2 sees it fine ;P
16:35.56rgoblei don't remember having a problem setting up WPA in Ubuntu once i got my wireless card working
16:36.13art3mislinspire 5 freespire 1.5 fbsd(if you make the kernel)
16:36.18rgoblethe silly drivers didn't have the broadcom firmware so i had to hunt down to get and install that
16:36.18art3misi lurv suse
16:36.40moonsorrowKemayo: wpasupplicant is installed?
16:36.42CIA-1103rabbit * r31095 10BigWigs_RespawnTimers/BigWigs_RespawnTimers.lua: BigWigs_RespawnTimers: Added a note about Incubator.
16:37.19Kemayomoonsorrow: Yup.
16:37.36moonsorrowdo you even see your router?
16:37.43moonsorrowif you left click the icon
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16:38.44Kemayomoonsorrow: I do, yes.  I just don't get the option to use WPA -- it lets me choose from three different types of WEP.
16:39.11Tornhoof3?
16:39.26Tornhoofnone,64bit,128bit?
16:39.36moonsorrowweird
16:39.41Kemayo128 passphrase, 64 passphrase, 64 hex.
16:40.15moonsorrowI'll take a look later, have to do something right now
16:40.25art3misfunny enough the 128passphrase works with wpa2-tkip/aes on mine anyways
16:40.52art3misbut i have to manually make it be on that network and not roam
16:41.04art3misif i let it roam it never connects
16:41.16KemayoI tried it with no result.  I'll have to try it again when I get home, with more attention to the roaming settings.
16:41.35art3mismainly cuz there are 5 other networks around me that are easier to conenct to ;P
16:41.44art3misi'd suggest just getting suse 10.2
16:41.52art3misit's much gooder anyways ;P
16:42.07art3misfor a debian linux distro anyways
16:42.21art3misyast is the bee's knees
16:48.16Tornhoofgentoo user :D
16:52.24xyuRed hat YAY!
16:52.27xyujk
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17:04.59CIA-1103Tristan * r31096 10TGuildFrame/ (7 files):
17:04.59CIA-11TGuildFrame: initial Commit
17:04.59CIA-11- An advanced "Guild Frame" for syncing Karazhan and/or Heroic groups.
17:08.12chutwigart3mis: suse?
17:08.13chutwigSUSE?!?!
17:08.19chutwigyou are a vile betrayer
17:09.02kergothYaST is a worthless pile of cow dung imo
17:09.20vhaarrI agree with kergoth.
17:09.45MoonWolfi concur
17:09.59CIA-1103Tristan * r31097 10TGuildFrame/:
17:09.59CIA-11TGuildFrame:
17:09.59CIA-11- Externals set
17:10.17vhaarrI even joined the #opensuse channel to complain about it and tell them to get their fucking asses into our century, but there was like noone there.
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17:10.55MoonWolfi personally really like whatever they call the thing they have in ubuntu
17:14.24IronhandI'm finding that I'm creating macros for almost every spell I have to cast it on the Focus when I hold alt... is there a more efficient way of doing this than a load of seperate macros?
17:15.45ArrowmasterIronhand: take a look at an addon called Macrotexter
17:16.46rgobleok i'm sure its in the LUA docs somewhere, but how to i concat a string? I'm trying to do is self:Print("blahblah" + textVar)
17:17.02Arrowmasteruse ..
17:17.03rgobleit wasn't . or & either
17:17.07rgoblethanks
17:17.10CIA-1103anea * r31098 10SpamSentry/ (8 files): (log message trimmed)
17:17.10CIA-11SpamSentry:
17:17.10CIA-11- 20070328
17:17.10CIA-11- Added support for WIM, Cellular and ForgottenChat
17:17.11Ironhandthanks Arrowmaster, a quick google shows this may indeed be useful
17:17.12CIA-11- Using server date/time instead of local in reports
17:17.14CIA-11- Added support for the GuildRecruitment channel
17:17.16CIA-11- Updated filters
17:18.13NeoTronI wish wim had tabs
17:18.31NeoTronI keep trying to use it but eventually I get tired of every tell opening a new window
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17:24.52TovortNeoTron: new version of Wim does that, though by default it's turned off
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17:27.34CIA-1103shieldb * r31099 10Incubator/ (Incubator.toc Locale-deDE.lua): Incubator: partial deDE translation
17:28.30AmadeoI"m a pro at juggling tells in one window
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17:28.39Antiarc|WorkI just added arena ratings as selectable options in the sig generator
17:28.40Elkanofor those understanding German: http://www.isnichwahr.de/redirect24709.html
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17:28.51AmadeoI don't remember the last time I sent a mistell
17:28.59AmadeoAntiarc|Work: Nice :)
17:29.10Antiarc|Workoh baby, i want you so badly too
17:29.11Antiarc|Workmistell
17:29.16Antiarc|Work;)
17:29.30AmadeoGreat, now what does everyone think of us?
17:30.22deltron<PROTECTED>
17:30.25AmadeoWhat the hell, Best Buy bought Speakeasy
17:30.29deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=85082818&sid=1&pageNo=1
17:30.32deltronAmadeo: yep :(
17:30.32AmadeoThat's unexpected
17:30.34Antiarc|WorkYeah, Amadeo :(
17:31.02AmadeoI worked at BB when I was 17-18, most crooked store ever
17:31.35AmadeoBosses made us lie to everyone and stuff
17:32.12Amadeo"Not buying a Performance Service Plan? Oh, sorry..we don't have that computer in stock..."  "You see it right there in front of you? Oh, no, those are rainchecks..."
17:32.17FryGuy-are there any screenshots of the tguildframe?
17:33.04deltronI hate BB
17:33.37Antiarc|WorkAmadeo: My wife's laptop had some issues and she took it in to be fixed under the replacement plan.
17:33.42FryGuy-nope, i don't want your extended service plan. nope, i don't want your monster cables.
17:33.44Antiarc|WorkThey tried to sell her $300 in "diagnostics"
17:33.54Antiarc|WorkShe called me and I said told her to bring it home, and that I'd take it in.
17:34.27Antiarc|WorkSo I took it in and did my very best to technobabble the guy behind the desk into quiet submission. He accepted the machine and gave me a claim ticket without trying to sell me anything. :D
17:34.40AmadeoIt's sad how they do business there
17:34.56AmadeoWe had a system set up to swarm people if they didn't buy a service plan
17:35.03kenlyric"would you like a magazine, it's free"
17:35.30AmadeoOne person tries, if they say no, you tell someone else...they try...if they say no again, they tell the supervisor...supervisor tries to cut a deal, if they say no, you tell them it's not in stock or something
17:35.47AmadeoA few got out without plans, but then they'd get swarmed on the way to the register
17:35.57Antiarc|WorkI've never really been pressured to buy a plan beyond the initial attempt.
17:36.10AmadeoWell, this was years ago, and it may be different in my area :)
17:36.14Antiarc|WorkBut that could be because I'm 6'10", 280lbs, and know more about the tech they're selling me than they do.
17:36.18Arrowmasterive only ever gotten asked once at BB and thats at the register
17:36.24shieldbAntiarc|Work, best buy employees are already on their way to your place of residence
17:36.27kenlyricthey don't try to sell me the service plan until I have the item in my hands.
17:36.31kenlyricso I'm not sure how that would work.
17:37.17AmadeoI know one thing...I went to buy something less than a year ago, was price matching...the General Manager said he wouldn't match it unless I bought a service plan...I told them I used to work here and that's illegal, so they matched it anyway :P
17:37.49CIA-1103trh * r31100 10VanasKoS/ (4 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: added additional reason window, fixed a bug that caused outdated synchronized entries to not get deleted
17:37.53Antiarc|WorkI really try to avoid BB if at all possible these days.
17:37.57AmadeoMe too
17:37.57Antiarc|WorkIt's just...ugh.
17:38.11AmadeoThe problem is, I buy stuff wherever the best deals are...so if it ends up being Best Buy...I have to go!
17:38.16AmadeoThankfully, it rarely is :P
17:38.38CIA-1103trh * r31101 10VanasKoS/VanasKoS.lua: VanasKoS: extra reason window is by default OFF...
17:42.56Elkanodeltron, this hunter saved my day ^^
17:45.34compzololsorry for newb-code, but does anyone know why candybar doesn't load here? http://ace.pastey.net/9433
17:46.11compzololoh nevermind the "bFiveSecondRule" that one is right in my code
17:46.16compzololstill doesn't work
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17:56.44renchap~seen grennon
17:57.20purlgrennon <n=jeramy@user-38lm5go.cable.mindspring.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 51d 19h 12m 25s ago, saying: 'too bad auctionsync never got updated for 2.0'.
17:57.50AmadeoIs Eviscerate damage over-negated for armor?
17:58.34AmadeoI just notice my 5 point Eviscerate says 431-478, but my 5 points do more like 250 on these mobs I'm fighting
18:00.05AmadeoI meant to say mitigated, wtf
18:00.24Kody-Yeah Eviscerate is physical damage so it's reduced by mitigation
18:02.03Antiarc|WorkYup.
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18:02.14Antiarc|WorkEnvenom isn't mitigated, but it's a lot harder to get the conditions right.
18:02.17vhaarrAmadeo: Which is why blizz gave rogues Envenom.
18:02.25AmadeoIt just seems high
18:02.33Amadeothat's almost 50% by a level 42 mob
18:02.33deltronenvenom is awesome with a stormstrike shammy
18:02.37AmadeoI'm only 41!
18:02.38Amadeo:)
18:02.40vhaarrI use envenom all the time in instances.
18:02.44vhaarrrarely solo though
18:03.09Antiarc|WorkI use it solo if I have a 5-stack of deadly on, but I'm combat spec, so meh.
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18:03.50vhaarrmobs die before I have 5 combo points anyway
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18:03.52Arrowmastermy rogue friend has been saying his backstabs are barely hitting for more than they did back in MC, seems outland mobs have a lot more armor
18:03.59shieldbI find when soloing that mobs are hardly ever alive long enough for me to get 4 combo points and get enough energy to use envenom or evis
18:04.02Antiarc|WorkThey do
18:04.19AmadeoDo you think Mutilate can be a decent leveling spec?
18:04.31Antiarc|WorkYes, but it sucks if things go wrong
18:04.31vhaarrcheap shot -> s&d -> 3 combos -> KS -> dead
18:04.32dreamsssoo.. any way to use the winace updater to force reinstall of addons without embedded libs?
18:04.34stavmarAntiarc|Work: question for you?
18:04.42shieldbpast 60, I think it could be decent
18:04.45Antiarc|WorkI like combat because you have fantastic contingency fallbacks
18:04.49Antiarc|Workstavmar: sure
18:05.22Arrowmasterdreamss: i think theres options to delete before extracting and to skip version checks
18:05.27shieldbdreamss, yeah, go into options in the updater
18:05.36dreamssthe whole patcher with embbeded libs thing is just pita and stupid sighs
18:05.54dreamssty
18:06.00shieldbset DeleteBeforeExtracting to true, SkipVersionCheck to true
18:06.16shieldbthen just update without externals
18:06.36shieldbthat'll dump all the addons and pull new copies down without externals
18:06.40dreamssyah i guess i updated with F5 and my addon dir became 40mb
18:06.50stavmarI re-ran the attunemnt query for my guild with the same filters but I am still getting the same HTML output that I requested on teh 22nd of March. How do we renew the last update for the static HTML?
18:06.52shieldbjust make sure you change SkipVersionCheck back afterwards :)
18:07.07Arrowmaster40mb?
18:07.27dreamssty
18:07.28dreamssyah
18:07.34shieldbmy addon dir is 49mb without externals heh
18:07.35Arrowmastermines at 104mb without embeds
18:07.40dreamssyah
18:07.55dreamssit was 80, then strated deleting unused addons
18:08.05dreamsswhen wow came out it was 15mblol
18:08.13shieldbdreamss, if you're going to run without externals make sure you're picking up the !!!StandAloneLibs addon from the updater, too
18:08.13Arrowmasteryeah ive still got a lot of pre2.0 shit
18:08.13CIA-1103jerry * r31102 10Talented/ (12 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:08.13CIA-11Talented:
18:08.13CIA-11_ Version 1.1
18:08.13CIA-11_ Added user to user sharing of templates.
18:08.14CIA-11_ Added exportation of templates as URL to wow or wowhead talent calculators.
18:08.14CIA-11_ Added an option to restrict templates to 61 points.
18:08.16CIA-11_ Added an option to show the required level instead of the number of talent points.
18:08.20CIA-1103roartindon * r31103 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Fixed lingering channeling castbars on targets (esp noticeable when summoning)
18:08.26dreamssshieldb, word
18:08.50shieldbor I guess the !!!StandAloneLibs package would be more correct
18:09.08Antiarc|Workstavmar: It should regenerate itas long as the last request was >12 hours ago
18:09.12Antiarc|WorkWhat's the timestamp in the file say?
18:09.30stavmarAntiarc|Work: Last Updated: 2007/03/22 10:15:25 -0600
18:09.48stavmaron the latest one I am looking at off your website
18:10.21dreamsssweet saved 13mb
18:10.23dreamss=)
18:10.39chutwigyay got my girdle of ruination crafted
18:11.38shieldbhmm, so I'm obviously missing something to get incubator to list on files.wowace.com properly - you can browse to it manually but it isn't showing on the main list o_0
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18:14.20pastamancerERROR: (http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Incubator/) invalid external http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BabbleLib/Babble-Boss-2.2/
18:14.21pastamancerhttp://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt
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18:16.45Funkeh`zomg
18:17.34sergiolearning a flask on your alt owns
18:17.45sergioespeically when you rub it in to people who haven't learned any yet
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18:19.52mikebrodo you have to do 1 of the alchemy quests (like master alchemist) to learn flasks randomly, or is it just a low % chance for anyone?
18:19.54kenlyricsergio: nah, it's better if you learn a flask on an alt who doesn't know alchemy
18:20.15vhaarrmikebro: Discoveries have nothing to do with masteries.
18:20.24kenlyricit's incredibly low. blizzard predicts that the majority of alchemists will never learn one.
18:21.53Arrowmasteronly because the 'majority' of alchemists probably dont make that many things a day
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18:22.14Cruciasive learned 2
18:22.22Cruciasbut then again ive made thousands of pots
18:22.24mikebroheh, do you have to be 375 to learn them?
18:22.27Cruciasno
18:23.27chutwigi like giving mats to alchemists and getting more pots back than i gave them mats for
18:23.29chutwigthat makes me happy
18:24.50add\\LeialynCan someone update Babble deDE translation please? I wondered why my SC Bossmods didn't work until I noticed that Zone was spelled wrong
18:25.06add\\LeialynBabble-Zone: ["Coilfang Reservoir"] = "Der Echsenkessel",
18:25.20add\\LeialynBabble-Boss: ["Hydross the Unstable"] = "Hydross der Unstete",
18:25.55Cruciasnothing better than making fort or regen flasks and getting x5 procs
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18:27.01kenlyricThe percentage is just very low. You could make 20k pots and never learn any.
18:27.10kenlyricOr you could make five... /random ftl
18:27.55Cruciasits probably 1 in a couple thousand
18:27.57Cruciaschance
18:28.10Funkeh`sure leialyn
18:28.15kenlyricdoesn't mean you'll get one every couple thousand :)
18:28.51chutwigit's the paladin combat experience, except with alchemy
18:28.52chutwighooray
18:29.22add\\Leialynty funkeh ... oh and btw, any ideas why Tidewalker Bossmod shows only 1 person in grave and not all 3 ?
18:29.36CIA-1103shieldb * r31104 10Incubator/ (. Core.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Incubator: Added Magtheridon's lair trash
18:29.54CIA-1103funkydude * r31105 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble-2.2: Boss/Zone: SC deDE update
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18:30.14Funkeh`leialyn, its not synced yet, vhaarr will do it in a sec im sure :P
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18:30.28add\\Leialynhehe ok, no hurry
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18:33.54Nickenyfikenhmm what is Incubator?
18:34.09shieldbmob respawn timers
18:34.11Funkeh`shieldb is it usable yet?
18:34.15shieldbyeah
18:34.19Funkeh`gonna try it
18:34.42renchapshieldb: invalid external with Incubator
18:34.54Funkeh`can't dl it, l2fix externals!
18:34.58renchapyou must use svn.wowace.com for your externals, not dev.wowace.com
18:35.04CIA-1103rabbit * r31106 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua: BigWigs: Morogrim: Sync graved players.
18:35.27shieldbahh, silly me for following the svn for beginners instructions to the letter, then :)
18:35.34Funkeh`lol
18:35.45vhaarrerr oops
18:36.56CIA-1103rabbit * r31107 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua: BigWigs: Morogrim: Bugfix.
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18:37.42shieldbthere we go
18:38.17shieldbI think I'm going to go photoshop that graphic in the beginners guide that lists it as BabbleLib instead of Babble-2.2 ;)
18:38.56CIA-1103funkydude * r31108 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua: BigWigs: SC/Morogrim: sync message change
18:40.56CIA-1103minorann * r31109 10ERP/:
18:40.56CIA-11ERP:
18:40.56CIA-11- Added more externals
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18:42.09_neuron_anyone know of any new large scale keyloggers/account hackers?  I've had 7 guildies hacked within the last week or so, starting to think that aint random.
18:42.12compzololSeriously, why does it start all my libs except candybar? :|
18:44.24ckknighthey all
18:44.35Relapsehey ckknight
18:44.50deltronyo
18:45.19kenlyricgeh, every other time I load my mods, half of them down' work.
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18:47.10OverloadUT... RIP Speakeasy T_T
18:48.25Amadeoheh yeah
18:48.39AmadeoI wonder what Best Buy has up their sleeve
18:50.36CruciasContainerFrameItemButton_OnModifiedClick anyone know what lib thats from off the top of their head?
18:51.18kenlyric[2007/03/27 14:35:59-4-x1]: AceModuleCore-2.0-30830:330: attempt to call method 'IsModuleActive' (a nil value)
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18:53.23MentalPower|ZZzzCrucias: no lib, thats from the default UI
18:53.29MentalPower|ZZzzcontainerframe.lua IIRC
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18:55.01add\\Leialyn@vhaar: posted morogrim deDE localization in forum ^^
18:55.25kenlyricthe times when my mods do load (every other login), I still get [2007/03/27 14:52:40-5-x1]: <Sub-AceAddonAceDebug-2.0, AceEvent-2.0, AceDB-2.0, AceModuleCore-2.0, AceConsole-2.0) instance>: AceConsole: args.about: "PrintAddonInfo" is not a proper function:
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18:55.31Cruciasthx, its not even listed on wiki
18:56.05Tovort_neuron_: My Account was hacked last year in September in a series of hacks that left at least 4 accounts in my raid in ruins
18:57.02add\\Leialyngonna update with new stuff
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18:59.56Funkeh`shieldb
19:00.01shieldbFunkeh`,
19:00.05Funkeh`i have a timer running it seems but its not creating a bar
19:00.16shieldbyeah it probably hasn't crossed your timer threshold yet
19:00.17Funkeh`in maghteridons lair
19:00.22Funkeh`oh?
19:00.29shieldbcheck the options ;)
19:00.42Funkeh`ill check the options when you give me dewdrop
19:00.50shieldbby default I think it won't display a bar until it gets within like 15 minutes of it expiring
19:01.04Funkeh`dewdrop mkay
19:01.25shieldb10 minutes actually
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19:02.00Funkeh`also i haven't tested it but keep in mind a way to save the timers so /rl/relog doesn't affect it
19:02.36shieldbyeah that definately needs to get fixed
19:03.49shieldbfor now though you can just do a /inc maxshowtime 60 and it'll display a bar for anything under an hour that's five minutes apart
19:04.34shieldbmy thought is that I don't want to see a bar for an hour, I only care about seeing bars when it actually starts to get close to them respawning
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19:05.48deltronhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/03/27/addon-spotlight-cartographer/
19:05.51deltron^^ grats guys
19:06.01shieldband then the timebetween setting is so that you don't end up with a zillion bars for stuff that's all really close to each other
19:06.24ckknightis wowinsider popular?
19:06.25JoshBorkegeebus, 566 DPS to break even on vampiric touch
19:06.42JoshBorkeno?
19:06.43JoshBorkeyes?
19:06.43deltroni think it is
19:06.53Arrowmasterffs how the fuck do so many people not know that cart has instance drops
19:07.00deltronckknight: it's part of the same site that runs joystiq, engadget, etc
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19:07.24ckknightI want free money
19:07.37deltronlol
19:07.41Arrowmasterckknight: if its not already there put something about instance loot in the upper left corner hint thingy
19:07.54pastamancer566 DPS isn't too bad considering it gives mana to everyone in your party
19:08.49kenlyriclots of people don't know that cart has instance drops.
19:09.01kenlyricit's not as obvious as atlasloot, for sure.
19:10.35deltronoh what'd cause my ores that I send out to turn up as red x's on someone after I transmit the info?
19:10.35JoshBorkepastamancer: sure, but sustaining that much DPS without pulling aggro in a 5 man is difficult
19:10.51JoshBorkefor me anyway
19:10.51vhaarrJoshBorke: you're not supposed to break even
19:10.51ckknightwould it be wrong to beg for money in the comments?
19:11.15kenlyricyeah, VT isn't supposed to be free. That's why it also does damage :)
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19:12.00deltronckknight: do it :)
19:12.09ckknightI totally am.
19:15.03CIA-1103ckknight * r31110 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua): PitBull - fix typos
19:15.05compzololIs there any easy way moving candybar around on the screen?
19:17.07deltronalt+click iirc
19:17.57compzololthink i tried that, will try again
19:18.11deltroni don't remember, been a while since I used that
19:18.31compzololtried like every possible key combination, didn't work >_<
19:18.56deltronheh
19:19.18deltronmaybe /candybar unlock or something
19:19.22Arrowmasterno
19:19.35Arrowmasteryou have to write moving it into your addon
19:19.54compzololoh, that's just great for a newbie like me :p
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19:28.02Antiarc|Workckknight: To answer your question, wowinsider is extremely popular.
19:28.07Antiarc|WorkIt is syndicated all OVER the place.
19:28.11ckknightah, okay
19:28.18ckknightgood times
19:28.19Antiarc|WorkWhen my armory tools got linked, my traffic went through the roof.
19:28.36nevcairieldidnt it do that even before?
19:28.46nevcairielwhen you spammed the link here ? :D
19:29.10Antiarc|WorkHeh, posting the link here was a little bit of traffic.
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19:29.15JoshBorkelol
19:29.19Cryectwowinsider is popular?
19:29.19pastamancerI still can't believe that you're running that off your home connection
19:29.21JoshBorkewowinsider broke his backbone
19:29.30Antiarc|Workwowinsider was "Oh, good morni---HOLY CRAP MEIN TRAFFIC LOGS"
19:29.48Antiarc|Workpastamancer: Cox cable business connection. They know I'm serving crap off of it.
19:29.56Cryectoh its popular compared your home server haha okay
19:30.08Cryectsomeone posted a link to one of your things their?
19:30.12Cryectthere*
19:30.20deltronlol
19:30.27pastamancerwell, bandwidth-wise.  I know you're using coral, but I'm sure the traffic isn't negligable
19:30.32Antiarc|WorkCryect: Yeah
19:30.35deltronI was going to try and apply to wowinsider
19:30.38Antiarc|Workpastamancer: 12gb this month.
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19:30.43deltronbut i'm probably gonna quit wow :P
19:30.44Cryectthats not bad
19:30.48Antiarc|WorkWhich is...peanuts compared to your average bittorrent home user.
19:30.53Cryectyeah
19:30.58Antiarc|WorkAnd I don't use bittorrent, so I'm hardly even a blip on their radar, likely.
19:31.31Antiarc|WorkI'm really surprised it's held up as well as it has, honestly.
19:31.35Antiarc|WorkBut pleasantly so.
19:31.49CIA-1103funkydude * r31111 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua:
19:31.49CIA-11BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon:
19:31.49CIA-11- add wipemob
19:31.49CIA-11- increase abyssal throttle time slightly
19:31.50Cryectah good the svn is working right again
19:32.31Antiarc|Work66,000 unique visitors this month, though.
19:32.41pastamancerwell, let me know if yo ever need space for those php scripts
19:32.58CIA-1103ckknight * r31112 10PitBull/ (6 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - took out the Constants.lua file, it's now part of the database, as the user should be able to change all the values eventually.
19:33.03Antiarc|WorkIf you want to mirror 'em, by all means, feel free :)
19:33.18Antiarc|WorkThe source is out there partially so people can mirror 'em if they want to.
19:33.27pastamancerI haven't actually looked at the source yet
19:33.31Cruciasnub question here, but if i want to use /use in a script would it just be use(bag,slot)? it doesnt seem to be working
19:33.41CIA-1103cryect * r31113 10BigBrother/BigBrother.toc: BigBrother - Fixed a library issue
19:33.44Tornhoofantiarc, you don't happen to have created a xsd for the wow armory items?
19:34.11Antiarc|WorkTornhoof: Sorry, no.
19:34.23Tornhooftheir item layout is kinda mad
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19:35.10pastamancerI offer, because it would let you get rid of the ads
19:35.15RelapseHmm these WoW functions are annoying. Take GetGuildInfo() for example. I want to feed it a player name, to get the info on a player. But I can't seem to do that directly :(
19:35.24RelapseCan only give is a unit type
19:36.16JoshBorkepastamancer: but ads give him money
19:36.30Antiarc|Workpastamancer: If you want to mirror it, I'll definitely put up a link. I do want to maintain the primary codebase on my machine for the time being, though because I have root on the machine, which lets me configure crap however I want, and I can experiment with stuff without worrying about slaughtering someone else's machine.
19:36.48ckknightRelapse: such is the life of an addon author
19:36.58pastamancerI'm checking out the svn now
19:37.07Ironhandmy CooldownTimers2 "Skill Cooldowns" menu goes beyond my visible screen, any way to reach the invisible options?
19:37.13Relapseckknight: Yeah :) Sitting puzzling over this one :)
19:37.33Antiarc|WorkI really need to learn to use xpath efficiently.
19:37.41Antiarc|WorkI'm really hacking it right now. :P
19:38.07Tornhoofi wrote an armory wow item parser in c#, not finished yet ;)
19:38.08pastamanceroh, xpath is fun
19:38.21pastamancerit's what CSS selectors should have been
19:40.11Antiarc|WorkPHP's simplexml doesn't seem to have a full xpath implementation, unfortunately
19:40.17Antiarc|WorkI had to fake the sum/min/max functions
19:40.41Antiarc|WorkOr I could just be using it wrong, which is more than likely.
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19:46.31PhatrikFunkeh` , add this to Magtheridon.lua : spam "OK WIPE UP" when Mag is engaged :C
19:46.52Funkeh`:o
19:47.00Phatrikor yell "Fooking stop theorycrafting until trash respawn ok?"
19:47.14Funkeh`lol
19:47.15chuckgYou guys still having issue with Mag after his nerf?
19:47.23chuckgI guess you never did him before the changes.
19:47.27Phatriknope
19:47.29chuckgThe fight is laughably simple now.
19:47.33chuckgComparatively.
19:47.44Phatrikit could be bugged, like we had with Gruul this week
19:47.45chuckgImagine the 5 channelers with 2.5x more health.
19:47.46Phatrikpre-nerf HP
19:47.49Phatrikpost-nerf Shatter
19:47.57chuckgAnd a higher spawn rate on infernals.
19:48.09Phatrikshould be fixed after maintenance
19:48.29chuckgGruul is easier than king now.
19:48.35chuckgThey really fucked it all up :|
19:48.48chuckgMag is what it should be, Gruul is way too easy.
19:48.49Tornhoofheh we had the full hp gruul with low shatter
19:48.55Phatrikso did we
19:49.00Phatrikbut still managed to down him
19:49.01chuckgI hope that's permanent.
19:49.01nevcairielwhen was that?
19:49.02Tornhoof18 grows, no dps around
19:49.08Tornhooffriday
19:49.10chuckgAnd they adjust the shatter up another 50%.
19:49.33Phatrikhis lewt is meh
19:49.33nevcairielwe killed gruul on sunday, low hp and low shatter .. easy ..
19:49.48Tornhoofyah another group on the server had low hp low shatter too
19:49.54Tornhoofbut 18 grows was kinda funny
19:49.57nevcairielhehe
19:50.01Cruciasthey should have just nerfed his shatter to 7k isntead of 9 and left his hp the same imo
19:50.04Tornhoofone shotted our 19k hp hurtful strike tank
19:50.47Phatrikour MT also took the hit and went "blargh Im ded" and a feral drood tanked the rest
19:51.38Tornhoofi went oom like 10s before the kill, ran up to gruul and ate the last hurtful ;)
19:51.51Tornhoofnon crushing 24k only ;/
19:52.03CIA-1103ckknight * r31114 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add ability to change colors in the dewdrop menu.
19:52.18ckknightfun note about that: you can change basically ... any color
19:52.23[dRaCo]is pitbull usable yet?
19:52.44ckknightincluding class colors
19:52.44ckknightdepends on the situation, imho
19:52.59ckknightfor BG, it works for me, for instances, I'd hold off till there's a casting bar module
19:53.35chuckgI'd say the opposite, no castbar in pvp is unsable :)
19:53.38knarf-how about aura?
19:53.40chuckgPVE, not such a big deal!
19:53.53ckknightalso, options are pretty limited
19:53.54CIA-1103funkydude * r31115 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua:
19:53.54CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Morogrim:
19:53.54CIA-11- add deDE
19:53.56[dRaCo]aight, I'll wait then... is there an eta for the castbar stuff?
19:53.57nevcairielis pitbull now the name for his uf ?
19:54.04ckknightyes, nevcairiel
19:54.14ckknight[dRaCo]: whenever I or someone else decides to make it
19:54.19nevcairielwho needs castbars in uf's ?
19:54.22ckknightI do
19:54.26nevcairieli always wonder why people implement that.
19:54.45ckknightbecause I need to know who's healing and everything
19:55.04[dRaCo]I basically need one for my target
19:55.14nevcairieli have target enabled in agUF too ..
19:55.20nevcairielbut thats the only place
19:55.25nevcairieli go crazy with group-castbars enabled
19:55.34kenlyricI do to.
19:55.51kenlyricespecially since I can't enable them only by class.
19:55.52JoshBorkei have party castbars enabled
19:56.02kenlyricso I have a lot of clutter from non-healers.
19:56.25kenlyricI can't imagine what they would be like in a 25-man raid.
19:56.32JoshBorkei don't raid
19:56.46JoshBorkepastamancer: whatever happened to that mod that would add sparks to perfect raid?
19:56.46[dRaCo]yeah, target only... but without them interupting casts is hard.
19:56.47kenlyriccasting bars are awesome though... I miss them in Grid.
19:56.52[dRaCo]so I need 'em
19:56.53kenlyricI just can't deal with regular unit frames in a raid.
19:57.12ckknightkenlyric: what would make you deal with them?
19:57.30kenlyricwhat do you you mean?
19:57.40ckknightcause, I mean, the castbars could be changed to only show heals for party members and such
19:57.40kenlyricoh, unit frames?
19:57.50pastamancerJoshBorke: haven't done any work on it, too busy
19:58.03ckknightyea
19:58.38kenlyricin a party, I like having them all, so I can see what every is doing, but i suppose if I was using regular unit frames, in a raid, I'd want to be able to limit it to just healers.
19:58.58Lysitheapitbull,hmm time to read up on what it does! since it's ckknight Im guessing ufs?
19:59.00kenlyricBut in a raid, regular castbars are just too much information for my brain to see at once... which is why I switched to grid.
19:59.52ckknightLysithea: it's my UF
20:00.15kenlyricdefinitely though, shwoing an empty castbar on all the units which don't cast is annoying :)
20:00.19ckknightkenlyric: well, due to the modularity of PitBull and all, it's not hard to switch off one thing
20:00.35kenlyricespecially since aguf makes the bar transparent... distracts the eyes.
20:01.17kenlyricckknight: the trick is to make it easy to turn off. I can turn off just about anything in aguf, if I make my own layout. Which is non-trivial.
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20:01.47ckknightkenlyric: my hope is for it to be a checkmark
20:01.50ckknightRelapse|afk: don't do that
20:01.51JoshBorkethe bane of configuration is making things non-trivial
20:02.08kenlyricso anyway, yes, party castbars are very, very useful, to answer the initial question. :)
20:02.45IndustrialRelapse|afk: seconded
20:02.46kenlyricJoshBorke: that's why I'm happy enough when mods let me configure what they do.
20:02.52ckknightone of my goals is to have a grid layout for PitBull :-P
20:02.58kenlyricDefault profiles alone are a huge thing for me.
20:03.10kenlyricjust make sure the grid layout can have casting bars.
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20:03.49Chompersparty castbars !
20:03.51Chomperswhere ?!
20:04.08JoshBorkeChompers: aguf has them
20:04.18JoshBorkekenlyric: how would yous how castbars on grid?
20:04.25Chomperswait...im after party targets, oops
20:04.25nevcairielit looked cool in the beginning
20:04.41nevcairielbut after the first instance it went crazy with the castbars :D
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20:05.22Mikmaholy fuck
20:05.36Mikma<2305> ::: Irssi: #wowace: Total of 215 nicks [9 ops, 1 voices, 205 normal]
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20:05.41Mikmaexpand much?
20:05.52IndustrialMikma: !!!!!
20:05.55chuckgAnyone know the spell hit cap in PVP?
20:05.58chuckgIs it 4 or 5%?
20:06.06Industrial*slaps Mikma with a 12 pund catfish*
20:06.07kergothmikma, hey
20:06.10Industrialpound, even
20:06.14JoshBorkequick, everyone run and hide
20:06.56kenlyricckknight: You couldn't do a spell names, but a small pixel-high bar that shows a spell being cast.
20:07.08Mikmakergoth: yello
20:07.22kenlyriclike, Grid has an incoming heal indicator... if there were some way to link that to the person healing them, that would be awesome.
20:07.34kergothMikma: hey where can i find your nifty minimap texture, the white one? i was perusing old wow screenshots of mine and want it back :)
20:07.37kenlyricRDX used to have a somewhat clunky version of that, but it never worked very well.
20:07.37ckknightanything's possible
20:07.50Mikmakergoth: hmm, just a sec i'll upload it
20:07.53JoshBorkekergoth: one sec
20:08.00kenlyricessentially, in the dream grid, I'd see a casting bar on pally 1, and a line to tank 2 showing who he is healing.
20:08.07JoshBorkehttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/heroics_out/stormreaver-forgotten-souls-70.html
20:08.09JoshBorkeerm
20:08.17kenlyricmt? :)
20:08.20JoshBorkehttp://svn.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/trunk/MySetup/
20:08.30knarf-kenlyric you got a link for that? :>
20:08.32Mikmakergoth: http://wow.reaktio.net
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20:08.55JoshBorkekergoth: or my link too
20:09.02JoshBorkei <3 mikma's texture
20:10.02kergothhehe, thanks
20:11.52JoshBorkei make mine flash.  it would be nifty if someone told me how to spin it
20:12.32kergothi remember seeing an addon that spun it
20:12.37kergothhmmm
20:12.48Mikmayeah, the addon had like 10 pics which kept changing
20:13.20JoshBorkethat doesn't count
20:14.05ravagernl_omg... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tScm-eZInBE
20:14.14Kirkburn|afkMikma, hey, where'd all your other cool stuff go?
20:14.30MikmaKirkburn|afk: deleted
20:14.45JoshBorkemikma had cool stuff?  lies!
20:14.58Mikmaif i had, they are long gone now
20:15.40Kirkburn|afkYou had that awesome minimap ping colour changer
20:15.47Mikmaexcept my Interface -folder, hehe
20:16.03Industrialtiiime tooo goooooooo back where i belooonnnnng
20:16.03Kirkburn|afkNot exactly advanced, but awesome nonetheless
20:16.04MikmaKirkburn|afk: it was the blip -changer not ping
20:16.13Kirkburn|afkAh, yes
20:16.35Mikmahttp://mikma.reaktio.net/wow/Mikma-MinimapObjectIcons.tga
20:16.37Mikma:P
20:17.05CIA-1103ckknight * r31116 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - added option to change the background/border colors
20:17.31Kirkburn|afkI still have my "Mikma" addon :)
20:17.42Industrialgief.
20:17.47ravagernl_ck is it possible to set statusbar textures already?
20:17.58ravagernl_eh? what does it do :P
20:18.02ckknightyea, it is
20:18.03ckknighttype /pit
20:18.37MikmaIndustrial: http://mikma.reaktio.net/wow/Mikma/ :P
20:18.45ravagernl_cool, and are they changeable per statusbar, eg mana striped and health glaze
20:19.00ckknightnope
20:19.09ckknightcurrently all the same
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20:19.56Kirkburn|afkMake that 217 nicks, Mikma :P
20:20.11Mikmawasn't that much when i left
20:20.19Mikma3months ago or so, can't remember
20:20.23Kirkburn|afkI wonder what the record is
20:20.34deltronnice you corrected them ckknight  :)
20:20.34Prophso is simpleraid sraidframes ?
20:21.02deltronno
20:21.08deltrondifferent mods iirc
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20:21.54Mikmaeurolands will get Scrooge McDuck -coins
20:21.55ravagernl_how can I sumbit a feature request ckknight?
20:22.02ckknightravagernl_: just say it
20:22.08Mikmai find that supercool and might concider on buying the coinset
20:22.21ravagernl_well, look up then, ability toset a texture per statusbar
20:22.44ckknightblah.
20:22.48ckknightcomplex
20:22.59ckknightI don't need it
20:22.59deltronckknight: you think you'll get donations?
20:23.07ckknightyou'll have to find someone who cares about that, ravagernl_
20:23.16ckknightdeltron: I'm hoping
20:23.18ckknightdeltron: I've gotten donations before
20:23.19deltron:D
20:23.33ckknightdeltron: I haven't paid for WoW for like 6 months now
20:23.33deltronckknight: maybe you can get employment from blizz heh
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20:23.44ckknightI've thought of that
20:23.56ckknightfrankly, it might be better to finish my degree first, though
20:24.13Kirkburn|afkMikma, this is /awesome/ - http://mikma.reaktio.net/house.png
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20:24.23MikmaKirkburn|afk: :D
20:24.24Kirkburn|afkI just happen to have spent half my day watching House
20:24.30deltronckknight: hah nice :)
20:24.39Mikmai can't help it, i'm huge house-fan. i own the season1 and season2 dvdboxes
20:25.05Kirkburn|afkYeah, I've been meaning to buy them
20:25.05ckknightI haven't seen any House episodes
20:25.13pastamancer<3 House
20:25.20Mikmathen you suck donkeycock
20:25.26ckknightNO U
20:25.32ravagernl_but ck would it be possible to write a module for that then?
20:25.36MikmaU AND UR FATHA!
20:25.50ckknightravagernl_: well, you'd actually be changing the modules that already exist
20:26.02ckknightravagernl_: you can very easily just edit the Mana module to show the texture you want
20:26.12ravagernl_i see
20:26.15Kirkburn|afkMikma, why in hell do you have pictures of dirty floors?
20:26.28MikmaKirkburn|afk: "naapuri" as neighbor
20:26.44Mikmahe decided to take his motorcycle up on se second floor
20:26.57Mikmaand he did it by dragging it up the stairs
20:26.59ravagernl_maybe you could have an approach like prat has, where there are checkboxes for "Define Font size individually"
20:27.04Kirkburn|afkAaah, evidence!
20:27.23Mikmawell the whole staircase did smell like gasoline and oil
20:27.25deltronhouse is awesome
20:27.33Mikmathose drops are mixture of them both
20:27.56Mikmaafter i called the security-officer of this house he wen't in the dude's appartment and asked me to take pictures of his place
20:28.14Mikmahe's the local firemarshal, so what could i do... :D
20:29.05Kirkburn|afkheh
20:29.10Kirkburn|afkAnd I see you have tech porn too
20:29.23MikmaKirkburn|afk: xboxpic?
20:29.27Kirkburn|afkAye
20:29.40Mikmai modded my xbox to have Noctua 80x80mm fan in
20:29.54Kirkburn|afkAh, too loud?
20:29.54deltronheh old xbox?
20:30.03Mikma17dB is.. too damn sexy to hear
20:30.07Kaelten-Laptophey guys the problem withs svns is I messed with dns entries and messed with one too much
20:30.08Mikmaold xbox yes
20:30.18Kaelten-Laptopit'll fix as soon as it repropogates
20:30.20Kirkburn|afkThe Xbox 360 is about to have a refresh
20:30.34deltronI haven't tossed up my old modded xbox in ages
20:30.34Mikmaand so will Nintendo Wii :P
20:30.42Kirkburn|afkDown with DNS!
20:30.43Mikmathey will be blocking some modchips from it etc
20:31.12Kirkburn|afkMikma, tis true, it'll be the Wii Mini or DS or Weenie
20:31.14Mikmadeltron: i did, i softmodded it, replaced the 8gb hdd to 160gb hdd and replaced the fan
20:31.35deltronI tossed in a chip in mine
20:31.38Mikmanow i can watch new houses from my xbox with 32" :D
20:31.41deltronupgraded to 120GB drive
20:31.48kergothhmm, simpleminimap doesnt properly adjust the minimap border per its 'scale' option
20:32.45deltronthe border doesn't scale?
20:35.20JoshBorkeKaelten-Laptop: good job! :-P
20:35.25JoshBorkei saw you stole my dns entry :-(
20:36.05Kaelten-Laptopyou been bugging me to do it for a while :P
20:36.16JoshBorketis true, tis true
20:36.30Kaelten-Laptopso I've been taking care of stuff
20:37.14kergothdeltron: yep, seems that way.  border stays at a scale of 1.0, and due to the anchoring, ends up offset from the rest of hte map, not just smaller
20:37.35JoshBorkeKaelten-Laptop: !! you're supposed to be busy doing other stuff
20:37.39Mikmaso folks. i need new addons
20:37.50JoshBorkeMikma: to make or use?
20:37.51Kaelten-LaptopI was in there doing other stuff too :P
20:37.57Mikmasupersweet and sexy addons. oh and low on cpu and mem :P
20:37.58MikmaJoshBorke: use
20:38.46JoshBorkeMikma: any ace mod, they are super sexy and super great
20:39.23MikmaJoshBorke: do they use dongle?
20:39.26ravagernl_except for pitbull, it drolls
20:39.30ravagernl_drools*
20:40.06JoshBorkeace > dongle
20:40.47Kaelten-Laptopthey're different types of frameworks, both of which is valid
20:41.00JoshBorkeTHERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
20:41.03OverloadUTHey no rational reasoning in here!
20:41.09Mikmai'm getting a hardon
20:41.13OverloadUTSWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS ONLY
20:41.15JoshBorketmi
20:41.24deltronwow nerds are fat!
20:41.26Kaelten-Laptoplol
20:41.27kenlyricwhichever one is best , is the last cyclon.
20:41.36Mikmawow = fat
20:41.39Mikmanice math
20:41.42kenlyricfuckdammit!
20:41.47kenlyrichalf my mods, broken again.
20:41.48JoshBorkei'm so confused
20:41.54kenlyricThis is getting dumb. Which library is horked?
20:41.54Kaelten-Laptopace is more of a full-stack framework where dongle is more of a glue- framework
20:42.02kenlyricstabstabstab
20:42.27JoshBorkeMikma: i'm writing my own personal dot timer because i don't like the look of all the other ones
20:42.45MikmaJoshBorke: that's the best thing to do if others suck ass
20:43.37deltronehh was there a patch today?
20:43.38JoshBorkei'm a firm believer that all mods should be made modular such that you can easily change the gui
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20:44.51deltronisn't what they do?
20:44.54ravagernlbeginning to look nice ck :)
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20:46.11kergothi like chronometer, but it isnt nearly flexible enough, with its appearance and grouping, or with what spells it displays
20:46.40JoshBorkeit also creates lots of tables :-/
20:47.58ravagernlckknight the borders of the aura's are bugged
20:48.07ckknighthow so?
20:48.14ravagernllooks like the bottomright is attached to the center of it
20:48.41ravagernlI see grey lines in the left corner of the buffs
20:48.50pastamancerAntiarc|Work: sig_config.ini needs to be a template unless you're going to move the valid referer variable elsewhere
20:48.53Mikmaso no new cool addons.
20:49.02JoshBorkeMikma: you weren't nearly specific enough
20:49.06kenlyrichttp://ace.pastey.net/9447
20:49.07Antiarc|Workpastamancer: Oh, you're right.
20:49.11JoshBorkeMikma: ooo, i know one!
20:49.17JoshBorkeMikma:  Guildbook :-D
20:49.20ravagernlmikma: violation
20:49.33JoshBorkeravagernl: not ready for general use i tohught
20:49.38renchapMikma: JumpCounter
20:49.53Mikmathere we go, lots of addons ;)
20:50.13ravagernlactually it works just fine, but not all features are ready yet
20:50.36Antiarc|WorkTo anyone that was having problems accessing sigs in the coral cache: does http://wow.tachyonsix.com.http.l2.l1.l0.nyucd.net:8080/armory/sig.php/28829EPCnP.png work?
20:50.39Mikmawell, any cool actionbar-addons?
20:50.55MikmaAntiarc|Work: yes
20:50.56ravagernlbartender3 ftw
20:51.02renchapbartender3
20:51.04deltronbartender3 > *
20:51.09JoshBorkebongos
20:51.15ravagernlnoooooo
20:51.16JoshBorketrinitybars
20:51.17NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i'm partial to bongos myself
20:51.19Antiarc|WorkMikma: And you could not access it via http://wow.tachyonsix.com.nyud.net:8080/armory/sig.php/28829EPCnP.png ?
20:51.26MikmaAntiarc|Work: Tiblet
20:51.34ravagernlthe only thing i like about bongos is the ability to have sticky bars
20:51.35pastamanceralso, I'd prefer if the ad-related code were moved to a separate include
20:51.37deltronbongos is too much of a pain
20:51.45Mikmawell i'll just stick with my MiniBar :P
20:51.50Antiarc|Workpastamancer: Yeah, I need to do that. I've been hackish about where I put things. :P
20:51.51NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: the second link loads for me, but not the first. for what it's worth
20:51.57Antiarc|WorkNightHawkTheSane: Ok, thanks.
20:52.14NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: actually, the first one just loaded now, it just took forever. >.>
20:54.25ravagernlckknight i have a screenshot for you: I set playerframe on a scale of 3 and I see a something over my buffs.
20:54.27ravagernlhttp://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03272007225329qx0.jpg
20:55.35deltronWTB 12str to BRASER
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20:55.42deltron:D
20:55.55deltronthat's an annoying enchant spam
20:56.00CIA-1103tsigo * r31117 10Cutup/ (Cutup.lua Cutup.toc):
20:56.00CIA-11Cutup:
20:56.00CIA-11- AceHook-2.1 wasn't being included properly.
20:56.01CIA-11- Add AceConsole as a module mixin.
20:56.01CIA-11- AceForum metadata.
20:56.15ckknightravagernl: that's odd
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20:56.41ravagernlim wondering also why announceit's font is bigger, but thats a minor issue
20:56.46_NiCEvening
20:56.53deltronyo
20:57.16pastamancerAntiarc|Work: http://armory.13th-floor.org.nyud.net:8080/sig.php/4DNmwc.png
20:57.58pastamancerthe create_sig page seems to have /armory/ hardcoded, but none of the other pages
20:58.31_NiCI'm looking for an addon to automatically record the bag/bank-contents of one (or more characters) and distribute them to other players in the guild who has the addon. I also want those players to keep the info, and redistribute it to others. The whole thing should be revision-based to avoid "old" players distributing their old content-lists.. Does anything like this exist?
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20:58.45_NiCHm, misplaced my ")" there.
20:58.57deltronshare your bag contents in game?
20:59.07_NiCdeltron, it's meant for a guildbank.
20:59.13ravagernlhttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7022-DuckieBank.html
20:59.14kenlyricinteresting idea, at least.
20:59.18_NiCzicon :)
20:59.35deltronyeah I wish blizz had a built in guild bank
20:59.43deltronthen my issues would be solved :P
20:59.52deltronI use rpgoutfitter.com for the banks currently
20:59.57_NiCYeah. That and itemrack with tooltip on items with the set they're contained in :>
21:00.11kenlyricit's TBC, we don't have a guild bank :)
21:00.17Saint-Nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQJSZs-euZU
21:00.25deltronwe have soooo many herbs
21:00.27kenlyricwell, we do, but it's full of worthless AQ40, MC, and BWL mats and junk.
21:00.30deltronand tons of old-world stuff :(
21:00.56_NiCWe have alot of crap in our bank too. Think I'm just gonna vendor it all when noone is watching. :D
21:00.59Antiarc|Workpastamancer: Ad code pulled out into their own includes (and own dir!) and I'll see about the hardcoded armory path.
21:01.04deltronlol
21:01.11deltronI'm gonna AH a ton of it
21:01.17ravagernlsaint-n: chuck norris doesnt need a gun!
21:01.18claviolaif anyone wants to buy a couple hundred silithid carapace fragments, I'm your man
21:01.20pastamancerAntiarc|Work: ok, I'm updating from cron at 10 past the hour
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21:01.26_NiCdeltron: problem is that as we don't need it, not very many others will either.. :>
21:01.32kenlyricsave some of those MC mats for core felcloth bags, much cheaper than making them with current mats.
21:01.39ckknightravagernl: found it
21:01.49ravagernlwhat was the problem
21:02.08deltronyeah I have no clue what to do with all the mats we have
21:02.15deltronI have like 90 mooncloth atm
21:02.47_NiCdeltron: I held a bank-cleanout just before TBC, and actually got rid of alot of stuff.
21:03.05_NiCdeltron: make bags, and equip all your alts? Welcome-gift for new members? :>
21:03.14deltronlol
21:04.03Antiarc|WorkOk. Think I have the hardcoded path fixed.
21:04.10deltronhttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/6547/sc-redbanker/
21:04.11deltronooh
21:04.15kenlyricyou can do lots of stuff with the mats you have.
21:04.18_NiCOr contests, aka "First one to find me and give me a hug in Shattrath gets a free bag!"
21:04.32kenlyriclike make resist potions... the new resist potions are only slightly better and have pretty crazy mat costs.
21:04.41CIA-1103ckknight * r31118 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull-Aura - no longer use the overlay
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21:05.31deltronyeah we are using almost all of our herbs for resist pots
21:05.39deltronI handed over like 12 stacks of herbs
21:05.51kenlyricmore dreamfoil please.
21:06.09CryectHeh our casters go through so much dreamfoil
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21:06.27kenlyricthose elixirs are very nice.
21:06.38deltronI have to use a ton of mana pots and stuff in the expansion it sux :(
21:06.39kenlyricI use them mostly to bump up my crit for inspiration.
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21:06.49kenlyricI don't use as many mana pots as I do elixirs.
21:06.53kenlyricso many wipes.
21:07.08xlviikenlyric, for which raid? ;p
21:07.15deltronresto shaman healing is getting ftl
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21:07.21ZealotOnAStickSo, I've avoided updating my agUF since the changes 2 weeks ago or so, I'm still on 30150 or thereabouts.  Have all the issues with the new stuff been sorted out?
21:07.21kenlyricI counted one night.. in the time it took to go through one flask, I used 28 elixirs.
21:07.24deltronI can't keep up heh
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21:07.35_NiCWe had a few of those flasks of mighty restoration last week
21:07.40_NiCThat's flasks I could get used to.. :D
21:07.48kenlyricI think I might just use the flasks, and ditch all the elixirs.
21:07.59pastamancerAntiarc|Work: almost, getting http://armory.13th-floor.org.nyud.net:8080//sig.php/5uLtcB.png
21:08.11kenlyricthe one flask is better than the five elixirs I take.
21:08.12_NiCzeal, I updated mine yesterday, it seems to work ok.
21:08.17deltron_NiC: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/6504/duckiebank/
21:08.51CIA-1103totalpackage * r31119 10StellarUF/ (13 files in 3 dirs):
21:08.51CIA-11StellarUF:
21:08.51CIA-11- lots of code changes, but frames are visually the same basically
21:08.51CIA-11- merged code into fewer files, heavy code restructuring (again using more locals)
21:08.51CIA-11- merged combo points images into one image
21:08.52CIA-11- removed the use of Metrognome
21:08.54CIA-11- values > 100,000 will show up as 100k for example
21:09.12deltron<3 stellaruf
21:09.16ckknightStellarUF?
21:09.19ckknighthaven't heard of it
21:10.16xlviikenlyric, what instance d oyou go through so many potsions?
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21:10.27deltronI have started to use it in place of ag_uf
21:10.36Antiarc|WorkOne more time, pastamancer
21:10.45shieldbFunkeh`, did you get the stuff figured out w/ incubator?
21:11.14_NiCdeltron: that one looks pretty nice.
21:11.19_NiCI'll try it
21:11.24pastamancerAntiarc|Work: updated, looks good
21:11.37_NiCdeltron, thanks.
21:11.47deltronyeah I'm going to try it tonight actually
21:11.48_NiCoh, and thanks to ravagernl too :-)
21:11.51pastamancerI'm nuking the ad includes on my end, but leaving the paypal link
21:12.06Antiarc|WorkThat's fine with me. Muck around with it all you like. :)
21:13.15Funkeh`shieldb? stuff?
21:13.35shieldbi.e. did bars eventually come up properly / etc?
21:13.44Antiarc|Workpastamancer: Do you want the referrer viewing script, too?
21:13.52Antiarc|WorkI don't have that one checked in, but it's a frontend to the referrers table.
21:13.55Funkeh`shieldb, it needs a dewdrop menu, /incubator menu or something, the bar '10 needs to be raised to 60
21:14.01pastamancer*shrug*  I have apache logs if I want them
21:14.11Funkeh`by default
21:14.16pastamancerbut I'll take the referer viewing script
21:14.17Funkeh`10 is nothing
21:14.35Antiarc|WorkAnd committed.
21:14.40shieldbyeah I was thinking about changing the defaults on that, same with the timebetween value changing
21:15.38pastamancerany reason you're using mysql_connect instead of mysql_pconnect?
21:15.57deltronpconnect persist?
21:16.07pastamanceryes, persist
21:16.08Antiarc|Workabsent-mindedness, mostly.
21:16.14Antiarc|Workpconnect would be a good choice. :)
21:16.14stavmarshould the waypoint arrow not work when the cartographer map is open?
21:16.14renchapmysqli_connect :)
21:16.25Antiarc|WorkThis entire project is a study in feature creep.
21:16.30pastamancerhehe
21:16.41renchapor try pdo
21:16.48renchaponly php 5.1, but i love it
21:17.50CIA-1103ckknight * r31120 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add clamp frames to screen option.
21:18.07deltronscope creep rules
21:18.45ckknightlol
21:18.59ckknightI find that modularity fixes a lot of issues with scope creep
21:19.06ckknightcause I mean, just disable the module if you don't want it
21:23.00Antiarc|WorkWhat I really want is for Blizzard to include values in the character xml that indicate skin tone/face/hair/whatever settings, so I could generate avatars that actually look like your character.
21:23.08Antiarc|WorkIt'd be a fun excuse to hack on wowmodelviewer.
21:23.21Kirkburn|afkckknight, you seen this? http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/03/27/addon-spotlight-cartographer/
21:23.36ckknightnote how I commented on it
21:23.38ckknight:-P
21:23.56renchapAntiarc|Work: is it a way to get values without buffs ?
21:23.59Kirkburn|afkGoddamn you! :c)
21:24.15Antiarc|Workrenchap: Not really, unfortunately, or I would have already.
21:24.47deltronKirkburn|afk: heh I showed him :P
21:24.48renchapok, so i must continue to write my own function to substract buffs :)
21:24.57Kirkburn|afkGoddamn you too!
21:25.30compzololis there any event for AceEvents that checks if a spell uses mana?
21:25.40OverloadUTSomeone told me a promo code for Dreamhost the other day? Are you still here? What was it? ;)
21:26.18KemayoOverloadUT: I mentioned one ("OMGBUTTSECKS", I think) which my SO told me about that gets you in without a setup fee.
21:26.27Antiarc|Work...
21:26.27deltronlol
21:26.29compzololor is it any easy way to check if the spell i use uses mana?
21:26.38KemayoI can't promise that it actually, like, *works* or anything. :)
21:26.51ckknightcompzolol: probably, check wowwiki
21:27.15CIA-1103totalpackage * r31121 10Cellular/ (. Cellular.toc core.lua frame.lua):
21:27.15CIA-11Cellular
21:27.15CIA-11- merge code into one file and the usual code cleaning/restructuring
21:27.15CIA-11- removed the use of AceConsole
21:27.23kergothwhy dont hte aguf party frames get the surfacecontrol surface texture anymore? its like they no longer use surface:Fetch() or something
21:28.10OverloadUTKemayo: Thanks!
21:28.40ravagernlFirst party member doesnt get it, next of them do, do you mean that kergoth
21:28.58OverloadUTWahhhh it's invalid :P
21:29.11kergothah, could be, havent been paying attention when i was in a normal size group
21:29.16KemayoOverloadUT: Um... let me check with her again, then.
21:29.32OverloadUTOh wait maybe that's because I'm doing a year payment which has no setup fee anyway
21:29.42OverloadUTThanks though ;)
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21:30.27KemayoOverloadUT: It's actually "OMGBUTSECKS", and is apparently a flat $50 discount.
21:30.32CIA-1103totalpackage * r31122 10Capping/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
21:30.32CIA-11Capping
21:30.32CIA-11- clean and touch
21:31.08KemayoOverloadUT: "on a monthly L1 plan".  Such is what I pass on.
21:31.52compzololhmm can't seem to find anything that fits my needs :/
21:32.21CIA-1103ckknight * r31123 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - layout is now an option in the dewdrop
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21:35.30compzololhow do i check how much mana i have at a certain time? (probably very noob question, but wth!)
21:36.04Kemayocompzolol: At a guess, UnitMana('player')
21:36.35compzololok i will try it
21:37.09CIA-1103ckknight * r31124 10PitBull/ (Layout.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - added :RegisterLayout, removed PitBull.layouts
21:37.55Kemayockknight: Yay!
21:38.30CIA-1103ckknight * r31125 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - update all layouts upon registration, if that is the layout we're using.
21:38.34ckknightKemayo: :-)
21:38.45ckknightas I said before, I want PitBull to be extensible
21:38.49ckknightin nearly all respects
21:40.25pastamancerdoes that mean no more people whining about "can it do foo's target's target's target's pet" ?
21:40.28ckknightI'm not sure where to go with the layout system as it stands, though
21:40.48ckknightpastamancer: PitBull:CreateUnitFrame("footargettargettargettargetpet")
21:41.01ckknightthough technically, that's an invalid unit
21:41.06ckknightas pet isn't a real suffix
21:41.09pastamancerthat's too simple, nobody will believe it's possible!
21:41.12pastamanceryeah, I know
21:41.27Kemayockknight: Hmm, yeah.  It looks like layouts have to explicitly know about modules.
21:41.36ckknightbut I mean with regards to modularity and dynamic registration and such
21:41.42ckknightKemayo: that's unavoidable.
21:41.56ckknightalright, gtg
21:41.59pastamancernot having looked at the code, I'd say make layouts be OO and define an API for them
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21:43.09ZealotOnAStick*sigh*
21:43.26kebinusanhmm does antagonist track things like diminishing returns on fears/
21:43.52ZealotOnAStickAny addon update that requires the player to reconfigure every single freaking option should be justification for whippings.
21:44.46sylvanaaryou can provide presets somehow maybe
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21:45.40ZealotOnAStickag`: Grrr.
21:46.35compzololwhat's luas answer to "equal or greater than"? is it >=?
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21:51.31Ominousckknight: are you here atm>
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21:53.12ravagernlcompzolol >=
21:53.34ravagernlhttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.4.5
21:54.13compzololthx m8
21:56.06ravagernlcompzolol or better yet: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.2
21:57.12stavmarnay good suggestions for a notepad mod in game?
21:57.26stavmarany*
21:57.34knarf-omnibus
21:57.41knarf-:p
21:58.05compzololany idea why function addon:SpellStatus_SpellCastCastingStart() doesn't get triggered eventhough i have self:RegisterEvent("SpellStatus_SpellCastCastingStart")?
22:02.49Finor better yet! http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/2.5.2
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22:12.54kergothisnt spellstatuslib obselete due to the blizzard api spell stuff?
22:12.54vhaarryeah it is
22:13.06vhaarrthat's why it's not in the trunk any more
22:14.06ZealotOnAStickWhy is /files like a day behind?
22:14.09compzololyeah i changed it to UNIT_SPELLCAST_START and it started working
22:14.30vhaarrZealotOnAStick: because svn.wowace.com stopped syncing with the dev svn
22:15.07ZealotOnAStickJoy.  Who broked it?
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22:21.53Kaelten-Laptopmw
22:21.53Kaelten-Laptopme
22:22.51ZealotOnAStick~smite Kaelten-Laptop
22:22.52purlACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves Kaelten-Laptop from crown to sole.
22:25.32CIA-1103funkydude * r31126 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua:
22:25.32CIA-11BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane:
22:25.32CIA-11- add frFR
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22:47.22ckknighthey all, back
22:47.57ckknightpastamancer: currently the layouts are handled by exposing the frame as a field on the unit frame
22:48.01ckknighti.e. frame.healthBar
22:48.13ckknightand the layout is done by frame.healthBar:SetPoint(...)
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22:48.28JJSheetsNargiddley "owns" Waterfall, right?
22:48.36ckknightright
22:49.11JJSheetsk... I'm thinking I might be wanting a multiline text box in a waterfall config, but it looks like it isn't currently supported...
22:49.30ckknightyea... I should add that
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22:50.39Mikmawobin: hi
22:50.51wobin'lo Mik
22:51.56ckknighthey wobin
22:54.10CIA-1103ckknight * r31127 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua PitBull.lua):
22:54.10CIA-11PitBull - bugfix to layout
22:54.11CIA-11PitBull-Health/Mana - don't expose the background texture on the frame, as the layout shouldn't touch it.
22:56.08JJSheetsCool, that fixed the bug I was almost going to report, ckknight.  :)
22:57.59wobinmornin' ckk
23:04.45CIA-1103ckknight * r31128 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - clear frame information before running the layout function.
23:07.22ckknightdoes anyone have any ideas about how to make the layout manager the best it can be?
23:08.26Mikmahit it with a shovel
23:08.36ckknightthat doesn't help
23:08.47GngskMikma, hi
23:08.48Mikmathen hit yourself?
23:08.51MikmaGngsk: hi hi
23:08.59Gngskhaven't seen you around much, been busy?
23:09.20Mikmana, lazy as hell. been playing with xbox and Diablo2
23:09.27Gngskahh
23:09.30Gngskgood times1
23:13.59CIA-1103kemayo * r31129 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Remove a function-call/loop from ZoneChange, since it was added when trying to fix a problem which has subsequently been tracked down elsewhere.
23:15.00Mikmawhat? DreamChat has gotten some love?
23:15.18AKXHuh?
23:16.06Mikmahi
23:16.15Kemayockknight: Let modules provide "hints" as to their positioning, which will be used if the current layout doesn't support that module?  (It'd make it easier for third-party modules, I'm thinking.)
23:16.50MikmaAKX: dreamchat love.
23:17.06AKXYes, what about?
23:17.30Mikmanuttin
23:18.04ckknightKemayo: hrm.
23:18.45ckknightI think I may have an idea
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23:26.46CIA-1103ckknight * r31130 10PitBull/ (Layout.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - added :RegisterBorder, allow for borders to be chosen in the dewdrop
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23:31.35Nickenyfikenckknight: hmm when i move a UF the "back light" or whatever its called stays in the sam place
23:32.26ckknightthat's not right
23:32.32ckknightthe darkened part, right?
23:33.00Nickenyfikenno the bright part
23:33.28Nickenyfikenfor example if i move target i stays in the same spot until i deselect my target and target something again
23:34.01Nickenyfikenlooks like its not anchored to the rest of the frames
23:36.16Amadeothe selection highlight?
23:36.21ckknightthe highlight?
23:36.25Nickenyfikenyeah
23:36.34ckknightoh
23:36.35Nickenyfikenthats the name for it :-P
23:36.36AmadeoI'm good!
23:36.45ckknighthrm.
23:37.02ckknightwoah, recent bug.
23:37.17ckknightwonder what's doing that.
23:37.50CIA-1103trh * r31131 10VanasKoS/modules/ (Notifier.lua Synchronizer.lua): VanasKoS: bugfixes
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23:40.05Nickenyfikenalso getting this error http://ace.pastey.net/9459 (Cartographer bug)
23:40.16Nickenyfikendamn i feel like a bitch
23:40.27CIA-1103ckknight * r31132 10PitBull/ (Highlight/Highlight.lua Layout.lua PitBull.lua):
23:40.27CIA-11PitBull - change layout structure again.
23:40.27CIA-11PitBull-Highlight - fix bug, hacky fix, though, I'll make a real fix eventually.
23:43.03Chompershey ck, is PitBull the name you chose for your unitframes?
23:43.14Chompersor something totally unrelated
23:43.15ckknight.
23:43.19ckknightyes*
23:43.55CIA-1103adirelle * r31133 10BankList/ (BankList.lua BankList.toc Libs/):
23:43.55CIA-11BankList:
23:43.55CIA-11- ignore poor quality items,
23:43.55CIA-11- ignore soulbound items,
23:43.55CIA-11- search in item tooltip.
23:46.38ckknightChompers: it's coming along, slowly but surely
23:46.43Chomperscool
23:46.53ZealotOnAStick!seen Gagorian
23:46.53Chompershow have you found it so far?
23:47.41Chompersim sure its quite diffrent to your other projects
23:48.40JJSheetsckknight, one request, some way to let a person predefine the layout of party/raid groups, so one doesn't need to drag them one by one, then figure out who's pet is whose... etc.  :)
23:49.11ckknightthat's an obvious request
23:49.16JJSheetsheh
23:49.19ckknightthere'll be grouping eventually
23:49.29ckknightChompers: it's interesting, and yes, different
23:49.39ckknightChompers: but my crazy ideas seem to be working
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23:53.05Chompers:P
23:53.13Chompersi look forward to trying out your crazy ideas soon
23:53.29Mikmais it just me or does loginservers suck much (eu)
23:53.32Chompersunless its just going to be a proof of concept mod
23:56.14ckknightno way
23:56.26ckknightI plan for PitBull to actually be usable one day
23:56.46Chomperswhat makes it better than rival UF mods?
23:57.25ckknightmodularity and efficiency
23:58.13xyuare there any ace2 Stunwatch type mods? for blind etc?
23:58.19xyudoes candy do that?
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23:58.50Amadeocandy rots your teeth out!
23:58.56xyuFuBar_RogueTimerFu
23:59.22chuckgI'm pretty sure Chronometer does it as well.
23:59.30CIA-1103ckknight * r31134 10PitBull/ (7 files in 7 dirs): PitBull - added :OnUnknownLayout, which'll be called when a layout doesn't have the information about a certain module (i.e. third-party modules). This solves the highlight problem in a non-hacky way.
23:59.30chuckgThough it doesn't watch for DR, I don't think.
23:59.56xyuwhat is DR?

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