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00:06.45stavmarwhat would you say is the minimum number of healres needed for curator?
00:07.53chutwigi would recommend 3
00:08.02chutwigany more than that and your dps will be too bad to get the flares down quickly
00:08.08Cryect2 healers is the minimum
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00:08.27Cryecthmmm would be interesting seeing it done with 1 healer :-p
00:08.58evl2 shadowpriests and a pala
00:08.59evlit's heaven
00:12.08yacoobhm, where's this shard ace thingy? on wowace?
00:12.20AmadeoWoWI
00:14.08Arrowmasterhmm theres seems to be some issue with oRAs scrollable reports
00:14.14chuckgTry out eeShards.
00:14.16chuckgIt's pretty awesome.
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00:15.55kergoth<3 totemic call.. playing my shaman isnt as annoying as it used to be
00:18.07Amadeowhat's that do?
00:19.18CIA-1103aznamir * r30910 10PallyPower/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
00:19.18CIA-11PallyPower:
00:19.18CIA-11- Added an option to turn off greater blessings for pre-lvl60 characters.
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00:23.27kergothAmadeo: destroys all the totems currently out, returning 25% of the mana cost of each totem it destroys
00:23.39kergothgreat for moving on to the next area without having thrown away the mana, and to avoid aggroing something accidentally
00:24.00AmadeoOh wow, I didn't know that was in game
00:24.03Amadeowhat level do you get it?
00:24.26ckknight30?
00:24.30ckknightI think
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00:25.00Amadeohm
00:25.12Amadeomy shaman is 42, I don't think I have it...unless I passed 30 before it was put in game
00:25.22LysistrataThanks for the help and CU :)
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00:27.37IndustrialAntiarc|Work: this distributed thing isnt working for me, my sig is gone :<
00:28.36GnarfozI have a mirror of the tools I'd use myself, but it stopped working after I created the SQL tables that were missing oO
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00:32.44kergothhrm wtf, on my shaman i'm not seeing any cooldowns on my buttons from omnicc
00:34.19[TL]Amandriakergoth, is there someting like omnicc done in ace ? ^^
00:34.27kergothyes
00:34.59[TL]Amandriathat would be ? ^^
00:35.38AmadeoI was having some weird cooldown readings on OmniCC...not sure if it was addon related or not, but I switched to CooldownCount for now to see if it happens again
00:37.21CIA-1103ckknight * r30911 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - update all frames on PEW and FullyInitialized
00:37.24kergothi get cooldowns on my bartender buttons on my hunter, but not on my shaman
00:37.25kergothfucking weird
00:39.13IndustrialVerigan's fist at level 20 ZING
00:39.13Industrial:D
00:39.40Amadeokergoth: I was wrong, Planet Earth is on Sunday :( I either had my days mixed up, or I ignored that completely
00:40.26kergothaw
00:40.38chuckgWhy does tortoise make an svn directory in every folder?
00:40.40chuckgUgg.
00:41.27kergothuh>?
00:41.35kergothall svn clients do, to my knowledge
00:41.50kergoththat metadata is how it knows its an svn working directory. it holds necessary metadata to function
00:42.17chuckgCouldn't it just store the data in the toplevel with descriptions of what sub level directories are relevant?
00:42.21chuckgSeems like that wouldn't be overly hard.
00:42.28kergothuh?
00:42.38kergothno, not and continue to function the way svn does.
00:42.45kergothsvn supports nested checkouts.
00:43.16nymbiawhy are hidden directories a problem?
00:43.16kergotheach directory needs to know where its upstream is.
00:43.35kergothwhy the hell does cooldowncount and omnicc both say my salt shaker cooldown is 50 days, when its 4 hours?
00:44.07nymbiakergoth: i had that happen on my Mr. Pinchy, too.  Tuller said it was a blizz bug.
00:44.41kergothah
00:44.42kergothweird
00:45.57hyperChipmunkit's always been that way, for as long as i can remember
00:46.40hasteit is a blizz bug
00:46.43hastebut you can counter it
00:47.39IndustrialI just beat a higher level warrior by DPS, no healing
00:47.43Industrialand im pala :D
00:47.58JJSheetswas he trying?
00:47.59JJSheetslol
00:48.08CIA-1103rabbit * r30912 10!SurfaceControl/ (!SurfaceControl.toc SurfaceControl.lua): !SurfaceControl: Also control the statusbar media type for SharedMedia-1.0. Doesn't work for PitBull yet, since it has no way to force a texture re-fetch. Have not tested EBB.
00:48.09JJSheetsand what spec are you?  :)
01:04.42chutwigtime for gruul
01:06.04DaagarIs it normal that changes to Skinner options don't take effect in real-time? I seem to have to constantly reload, when changing colors/transparency for example.
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01:28.45Ironhandjust been looking into custom floating/scrolling combat text addons - is it correct that only the Blizzard UI is capable of displaying damage over mobs' heads without having nameplates on, or did I simply not read the descriptions well enough?
01:29.53cladhairethat would be correct, only blizzard knows where a mob is,when nameplates aren't on.
01:30.37AmadeoSpeaking of nameplates, are those moddable? :)
01:30.42Ironhandthanks cladhaire - shame, hope this will change in some future patch...
01:30.50cladhaireit won't
01:30.53cladhaireAmadeo: yes they are.
01:31.05cladhaireIronhand: You won't get that sort of information, ever
01:31.05AmadeoWow, I don't think I've ever seen a nameplate addon
01:31.13cladhaireAmadeo: there's one on wowi that shadowed wrote.
01:31.21AmadeoI'll check it out, thanks :)
01:31.24Finit's nifty
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01:31.46Ironhandcladhaire: why not? in theory it could be as simple as a "hidden nameplate" that provides an anchor but no visuals of itself
01:32.03Daagarthe potential for bots, i assume
01:32.13Daagarif you know where the NPCs are, you can hunt them
01:32.19Daagarautomatic like
01:32.31cladhairewhat he said
01:32.34cladhaireamong other things
01:32.36Ironhandbut the with-nameplate version can do this without knowing where the NPC's are
01:32.42cladhairenot true.
01:32.48cladhairenameplates are an approximation
01:33.01cladhairethey're hardly pinpoint locations
01:33.12cladhairemore importantly, putting that code on the lua side of the fence would be epxensive, and unnecessary
01:33.25Ironhandok, but pinpoint locations aren't essential for displaying damage either
01:33.48cladhairethere is no correlation betyween units in the field and "units"
01:33.50cladhaireit won't ever happen
01:33.56cladhairewe know/do nothing with the 3-D world
01:34.36Daagaras someone said on the WoW forums once: wrap your screen with cellophane. Whatever you can write on that with a marker is what a mod can do.
01:34.54Ironhandyet with nameplates on we *can* display damage that to the user appears positioned related to objects in the 3d world
01:35.17cladhaireyes
01:35.20cladhaireas a side-effect
01:35.21cladhairegrats
01:35.25Amadeobut aren't nameplates already based on distance? they don't show up until you're pretty close
01:35.26cladhaireyou're not going to get anything more than that
01:35.30cladhaireAmadeo: correct
01:35.48Amadeoso I assume damage is the same way with them?
01:35.56AmadeoI don't use them...can't get used to the way they "move"
01:36.23cladhairedamage we have NO control over whatsoever.
01:36.34cladhairethere are no references to it anywhere.
01:37.34AmadeoHow come SCT has a screenshot of "Nameplate Heals" on WoWI?
01:37.45cladhairebecause it uses the nameplates.
01:38.01Amadeoso you can mod stuff for when they're on?
01:38.07cladhaireyes
01:38.11cladhairebecause they're clickable
01:38.12AmadeoI see
01:38.12cncfanatic1~seen Gagorian
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01:38.47AmadeoI didn't know that
01:38.47cladhairethat means we can get them as children of Worldframe
01:38.47Amadeodo you use them? :)
01:38.47cladhaireand use them to "estimate" things.
01:38.47cladhairei have clicked on them one upon a time
01:38.48cladhairemore often when i'm tanking
01:38.58hyperChipmunkgood for pulling stuff out of a crowded mess
01:39.17Amadeocan you right click them too? say, to talk to an NPC?
01:39.34hyperChipmunkeya
01:39.48Amadeomaybe I'll try to get used to them
01:39.51AmadeoI like how they show a casting ba
01:39.52Amadeor
01:39.57cladhaireheh yeah thats nice
01:40.01cladhaireand that's how we knew we could do somethign with them =)
01:40.02hyperChipmunkya
01:40.05Amadeohehe
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01:40.19cladhaireokay, bbiab
01:40.20Amadeohow much can you modify the graphics of them? is it pretty limitless?
01:44.56kergothi love hte nameplates on my rogue to see what mobs are going down fastest in 5 mans
01:45.38Amadeoif you can really modify the graphics of it, I think that would make an awesome addon project :)
01:47.43JJSheetsAmadeo, make a mod called "HelloMyNameIs", in honor of generic name tags.  :p
01:48.02Amadeohehe
01:48.15AmadeoYou guys know of any way to convince Blizzard to change my character name? :P
01:48.19chuckgI love how nameplates screw up the AOE targetting reticule so you can't cast the spel.
01:48.39chuckgAnd you're forced to cancel the spell then recast it out of range of the nameplates, missing half the targets you meant to hit in the first place.
01:49.04CodayusAmadeo: Ask your guildies to report you for a name violation.
01:49.20CodayusSooner or later, you'll get a GM who'll do it.
01:49.25Amadeowhat type of violation usually works the best? :P
01:49.35sbumeh - something is wrong w/ my addon loading stuff
01:49.39sbui cant disable addons anymore
01:49.39AmadeoI don't want to end up getting banned!
01:49.59CodayusI'm not sure.  Might depend on your name.  A general "this persons name offends by deeply held religious beliefs" perhaps?  :-)
01:50.08Amadeohaha
01:50.50kergothhm, level 67... i should finish getting to 70.
01:50.56kergothwhats a good way to farm for moneys, primals?
01:51.10sbuhmyep
01:51.22sbuor aldor/scryres stuff
01:51.32CodayusIf you can make a argument - even very tenuous - that it's a reference to drugs, or to Blizzard NPCs, or to controversial real-life stuff...could be useful.
01:51.33kergothdown to 300g across all my chars, keep blowing cash buying stuff for alts :P
01:51.34Chompersquesting is good for gold too
01:51.41tlundchuckg: ..or make a macro to turn off nameplats when casting AOE-spells?
01:51.54chuckgHow do I turn it back on when I'm done casting?
01:51.58chuckgThat's not a solution, that's a workaround.
01:52.21Codayuskergoth: Questing is probably the single best source of gold until you run out of quests.  After that, mining, herbing, farming for scryer/aldor rep items, and farming for primals (if you can find some uncamped elementals) are all good.
01:52.27chuckgBlizzard could very simply disallow left clicks from hitting players while the targetting reticule is up.
01:52.28sbuoh...
01:52.31sbuthere was a line
01:52.32chuckgAnd it would completely solve the problem.
01:52.38sbu: enabled
01:52.50sbuin my AddOns.txt
01:53.00sbuguess that caused all my addon loading problems :o
02:01.02Amadeokergoth: have you done any memory comparisons between MSBT and SCT lately?
02:02.03kergothnah
02:02.17kergothi just stick wtih mbst cause i like its style and i like the 4.0 features like the event consolidation
02:02.20kergothhavent bothered trying sct
02:02.31kergothnot in a while anyway
02:02.45Amadeoyeah, I feel the same way...but if SCT ends up being more efficient at some point, I might have to compromise :)
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02:04.20kergothwell i dunno, i'm all for efficiency and all, but unless its -substantially- more efficient, i wont bother
02:04.32Chomperswhats msbt like?
02:04.39Chompersworth swapping over from sct+sctd?
02:04.39Amadeoyou could probably get SCT to look like MSBT with some work
02:04.45kergothhmm, is there an addon for shaman EEP (enhancement equivalency points)?
02:05.22kergothChompers: check out http://stage6.divx.com/members/261578/videos/1050056
02:05.41Chompersjust tried to watch it, didnt want to install the codec
02:05.55Chompersbad memories of realplayer asking stuff like that
02:06.17Funkeh`you don't ahve divx codec?
02:06.25Funkeh`man that should come wiht your pc
02:06.28Chompersthats the thing, i do
02:06.36Chompersand xvid and all the rest
02:07.02Chompershow else would i watch my episodes of galactica every week :P
02:07.33kergothwell, xvid can decode divx last i checked
02:07.38kergothdunno what to tell you, works fine here :P
02:07.40Funkeh`aoe merging
02:07.41Funkeh`wtf
02:07.49kergoththat feature kicks ass
02:08.07Chompersthink i'll give it a go
02:08.17Chompersis it ace2 yet?
02:08.22Funkeh`need that in SCT
02:10.36kergothit isnt ace2, but its still quite good and seemingly pretty efficient.
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02:14.38Chompers4.11 right?
02:15.22Funkeh`hes asleep kergoth
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02:28.12Chompersmcbt is great
02:28.19Chomperslots of options to tinker with
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02:39.42chuckgOh, my, god.
02:39.51chuckgBlizzard's method of creating the "CaptureBar" is SO STUPID.
02:40.29chuckgframe = uiInfo.create(extendedUIShown); calls the CaptureBar_Create() function, which when hooked, doesn't actually work because of the way they do it.
02:40.48CryectCaptureBar?
02:41.47hastethe one you get near PvP objectives
02:42.42chuckgWhen you're standing on like a tower/capture area in EOTS.
02:42.55chuckgI guess hooking doesn't work when it's used in this way:
02:43.14chuckgx = referenceTo.TheFunction()
02:43.14chuckg?
02:44.18Funkeh`lol
02:54.53chuckgNo one knows, hmm? :)
02:55.00chuckgDoesn't look like it does, unless I'm doing it incorrectly.
03:00.54ckknightchuckg: it'll work
03:00.59ckknightif you do it right
03:01.04chuckgDo tell.
03:01.13chuckgI did it in the same way I've always done.
03:01.18chuckgSo unless something must be done differently..
03:01.20ckknightwell, is uiInfo.create = CaptureBar_Create
03:01.39ckknightor does uiInfo.create = function() CaptureBar_Create() end
03:01.48ckknightcause you're hooking the table reference in _G, you're not hooking the function itself
03:01.56chuckgWould you like the pastey of what it is and how it's done?
03:02.03chuckgIt's not my code, so it's not changeable.
03:02.13chuckgGive me a moment, please.
03:02.15chuckgDoing bm heroic.
03:03.11ckknightI'm going off to bowling
03:05.52CIA-1103ckknight * r30913 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - updates pet on PLAYER_PET_CHANGED
03:08.31chuckgHave you left ck?
03:09.03chuckghttp://ace.pastey.net/9210
03:20.20chuckgAny ideas on how to hook that?
03:20.39chuckgI can't entirely decode what it was ck said.
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03:30.56JoshBorkechuckg: what are you trying to hook?
03:30.59JoshBorkeKaelten: ping
03:31.15chuckgCaptureBar_Create
03:31.29chuckgframe = uiInfo.create(extendedUIShown);  calls it.
03:31.39chuckgHooking normally, at least how it's shown in the API doesn't work.
03:32.19JoshBorkelocal orig = uiInfo.create; uiInfo.create = function(...) ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Hooked") orig end
03:32.21JoshBorkedoesn't work?
03:32.30JoshBorkeoops
03:32.34JoshBorkeorig(...)
03:33.17chuckghttp://ace.pastey.net/9212
03:33.19chuckgLook at that.
03:33.29chuckgUhh, I can't edit that code.
03:33.33chuckgThat's blizzard UI code :|
03:33.53chuckgUnless I'm misunderstanding what it is you're saying.
03:34.30JoshBorkein some other addon you should be able to type what i wrote and have it hook uiInfo.create
03:34.44JoshBorkewait, now i see what's going on
03:35.02chuckglocal extendedUI, extendedUIState1, extendedUIState2, extendedUIState3, uiInfo;
03:35.05chuckgIt's a local.
03:35.07chuckgNot something I can hook into.
03:35.12JoshBorkeyea, i see it
03:35.29JoshBorkeuiInfo = ExtendedUI[extendedUI] right?
03:35.42JoshBorkedo you only want to hook one specific extendedUI?
03:35.54chuckgI just want to hook the CaptureBar_Creat(id) function.
03:36.00JoshBorkebtw, what file is that in?
03:36.05chuckgThe one time it is accessed is in the line that I mentioned.
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03:36.10chuckgWorldStateFrame.lua
03:37.20JoshBorkelocal orig = ExtendedUI['CAPTUREPOINT']['create']; ExtendedUI['CAPTUREPOINT']['create'] = function(...) ChatFrame1:AddMessage('I hooked!') orig(...) end
03:39.09JoshBorkeis the easy way
03:39.47chuckgSo I hook the Array?
03:39.56JoshBorkeyes
03:40.01chuckgOr rather, the reference to a function in the array?
03:40.11JoshBorkeyes
03:40.18chuckgThat's awful.
03:40.19JoshBorkeso you could either hook the array or the function
03:40.27chuckgI tried hooking the function directly.
03:40.30chuckgThat doesn't work.
03:40.32JoshBorkehow?
03:40.37chuckgAceHook..
03:40.50chuckgself:Hook("CaptureBar_Create", true);
03:40.51chuckgNo go.
03:40.52JoshBorkei don't know anything about AceHook so i can't help you there
03:41.00chuckgWhich is in essene doing:
03:41.13chuckglocal orig = CaptureBar_Create()
03:41.20chuckgCaptureBar_Create = New()
03:41.33chuckgfunction New() orig() end
03:41.36chuckgAnd that didn't work.
03:41.44chuckgWhich is why I'm asking about it in the first place.
03:42.21JoshBorkei dunno, sorry :_/
03:42.26JoshBorketime for bed, nn
03:42.53kergothchuckg: fyi, the global environment in lua is just a table.  -every- hook is a "hook the array"
03:42.58kergothso no, not particularly awful
03:43.09chuckgRight then why doesn't hooking the function directly work?
03:43.14chuckgThat's why I'm confused.
03:43.38chuckgDoing: x = hookedFunction(); is what is I tried, and that isn't working.
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03:45.43nymbiax = hookedFunction
03:45.46nymbiax()
03:46.34nymbiaO.o
03:46.59Fisker-nymbia("raep kergoth")
03:47.24chuckghttp://ace.pastey.net/9212 -- WorldStateFrame.lua
03:47.31chuckgHooking the function doesn't work nymbia.
03:47.49nymbiachuckg: if you have the parens, all you're doing is calling it.
03:47.59Fisker-You're not hooking hard enough!
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03:49.45nymbiachuckg: which part are you trying to hook
03:49.53Funkeh`don't use the word rape and nymbia in the same line
03:49.58Funkeh`i get beeped
03:50.04nymbiahahaha
03:50.29chuckghttp://ace.pastey.net/9214
03:50.37chuckgThat won't work.
03:52.46chuckgThe actual hook def is abit wrong.
03:52.49chuckgBut assume it's right.
03:52.51nymbiachuckg: well for one thing the function call in your hook declaration will fail (and probably error) since you dont have the parens
03:52.59nymbiachuckg: also not passing the args
03:53.07chuckg"But assume it's right."
03:53.11chuckgI just hand typed it fast, since I'm in a WSG.
03:53.47nymbiachuckg: what's wrong with http://ace.pastey.net/9215 ?
03:54.03nymbiano need to give it a handler function
03:54.07chuckgNothing.
03:54.10chuckgI did it that way.
03:54.18chuckgExcept that your function in that wouldn't work.
03:54.27chuckgIt'd need to be myAddon:CaptureBar_Create(id)
03:54.30nymbiaoh?
03:54.32chuckgAnd I tried that, it doesn't work.
03:54.43chuckgit works with *other* normal functions.
03:54.45nymbiawell its a normal ole function
03:54.53chuckgBut the problem is, I think, how the function is called.
03:54.59chuckgThe hooked function, is called, rather.
03:55.10chuckgx = array.HookedFunctionReference(id)
03:55.11nymbiait might be getting called before it gets hooked
03:55.16chuckgNope.
03:55.33chuckgThat hooked function is called ONLY when you enter an area that that frame is needed.
03:55.38chuckgAnd it's only needed if you're contesting a territory.
03:55.44chuckgSo it's not Updated/called till then.
03:56.48chuckghttp://ace.pastey.net/9216-3e76 that would be the correct format.
03:58.48chuckgIt's very easy to tell if it's been called.
03:59.06chuckgYou would just check if the frame: WorldStateCaptureBar1 has been created.
03:59.20chuckgAnd it never is until you contest an object, at that point, the function is called and the hook fails to operate as assumed.
04:00.23chuckgAnother one bites the dust. D=
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04:01.13Fisker-C&C3 isn't out yet
04:01.16Fisker-i'm gonna go QQ
04:01.19Fisker-see you guys later
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04:03.56CIA-1103kergoth * r30914 10!SurfaceControl/libs/: !SurfaceControl: add external for sharedmedialib.
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04:04.23ZealotOnAStickHeh, I was just about to take a look at that.
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04:05.11xyustrange. trying to set my friend up w/ ace2 addons.  He plays the same class as I do so i had him get the same/similar addons.   He logged in and said the memory was more than 48mb so it logged him off.  (mine only takes 28)  so i thought weird.  had him set it to 100mb in the addons GUI.  
04:05.20xyuWhen he logged on it said it was taking over 100mbs of memory and had him log off
04:05.27kergothlol
04:05.32chuckgHave him gc.
04:05.37chuckgIt was just the libs hadn't be gc'd yet.
04:05.44chuckgSo his memory usage was probably way higher than what it will be after initial gc.
04:06.06xyuis there a command or just have him click on the performancefu?
04:06.28kergothhe's still got issues if its over 100 megs
04:06.31kergoththats mind boggling.
04:06.33nymbiaprobably just some huge thing with a huge database.  sws or damagemeters or auctioneer?
04:06.35chuckgJust click performance fu.
04:06.37ZealotOnAStickYeah, something's seriously borked.
04:06.52xyuwe have KCitems
04:06.56xyuonly database like addon
04:07.05kergothi scan both alliance and horde with auctioneer like daily and it never hits anywhere near that
04:07.32xyucarto, and KCitems
04:08.02kergoththose wont push you to 100 megs, thats for damn sure
04:08.08kergothcart's a
04:08.14kergotht a couple megs at the outside
04:09.10xyuwe'll disable addons i think might be causing it and try one at a time.
04:11.26chuckgOut of ideas nymbia?
04:12.03nymbiachuckg: hm, lemme stick in somewhere and try it myself.
04:14.01chuckgOkie.
04:14.01chuckgYou can get it to create one by contesting an objective in HFP.
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04:17.24nymbiachuckg: that function doesnt actually fire for some reason
04:17.38nymbiachuckg: you can test by doing /script CaptureBar_Create = nil
04:17.45chuckgBut it does.
04:17.45chuckg:)
04:17.46chuckgIt has to.
04:17.49chuckgOr the frame wouldn't get created.
04:17.53nymbiano it does not
04:18.04nymbianil the function out then go capture something
04:18.09chuckgThen how does WorldStateCaptureBar# get created?
04:18.16chuckgThat's the only place it's created.
04:18.18nymbianothing errors and the frame draws just fine.
04:18.49chuckgCheck your worlstateframe.lua :|
04:19.52xyuI've found the culprit of the huge memory at logon.   Seems if he enables everything the memory shoots well over 100, even 150
04:20.00xyuIf he disables Antagonist everything is fine.
04:20.27xyui know antag was big but not that big ;)
04:21.54chuckgCould it be blizz is using something diff than the interface kit code?
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04:23.03nymbiachuckg: got it
04:23.07dreamssError: attempt to call method 'GetCurrentOrNextEyeOfTheStormWeekend' (a nil value)
04:23.08chuckgOhhh.
04:23.10chuckgDo share.
04:23.19dreamssanyone seen that issue?
04:23.24nymbiachuckg: sec i'll put it in the pastey
04:23.31dreamsslatest honorfu
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04:24.53chuckgThanks.
04:25.13nymbiachuckg: http://ace.pastey.net/9219
04:25.52chuckgThen how do I grab a reference to the element in that array?
04:26.07nymbiachuckg: its global
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04:27.43chuckgNo I mean, how do I know when it's getting called?
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04:28.14chuckgFurther, how do I catch the argument of ExtendedUI.CAPTUREPOINT.CaptureBar_Create( id )
04:28.23nymbiachuckg: what do you mean?  that hook code i posted works
04:28.37chuckgWouldn't that catch it *anytime* it's referenced?
04:28.39CIA-1103xinsonic * r30915 10sRaidFrames/localization.zhTW.lua: sRaidFrames: Updated zhTW. Thanks to Kayin.
04:28.50chuckgSo here: uiInfo.update(extendedUIShown, extendedUIState1, extendedUIState2, extendedUIState3);
04:29.05chuckgAnd call that hook.
04:29.51nymbiachuckg: those are local vars, not the table.. and hooks dont fire unless the function is actually called
04:30.07chuckgThat hook isn't on the function though.
04:30.12chuckgIt's on the table that contains it?
04:30.40nymbiaits on the reference of the function that they actually call
04:32.02chuckgHOw can that be? It's reference the ExtendedUI["CAPTUREPOINT"], which is a table that contains a string and 3 function refs.
04:32.25nymbiathey call the function from within the table, not the global one
04:33.19chuckgSo like I asked, everytime a function in that table is called, it's going to match the Hook.
04:33.37chuckgAnd in turn, call the hook, right?
04:33.37nymbiawhy?
04:34.01chuckgIt's only netting: ExtendedUI.CAPTUREPOINT
04:34.02chuckgRight?
04:34.07nymbianope
04:34.23nymbiaExtendedUI.CAPTUREPOINT.create
04:34.24chuckgIt's not netting the function in that array.
04:34.31chuckgOHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
04:34.50chuckgIs that what the second arg is? I thought that was just the name of the function I wanted to handle it.
04:35.41chuckgSo to call the orig I'd do: self.hooks[ExtendedUI.CAPTUREPOINT].create()
04:35.42chuckgRight?
04:37.11chuckgNow how do I get it to go to a function name of my choosing, instead of a generic "create"?
04:37.40chuckgself:Hook(ExtendedUI.CAPTUREPOINT, "create", "CaptureBar_Create", true)?
04:39.14chuckghttp://ace.pastey.net/9220
04:41.41nymbiachuckg: try http://ace.pastey.net/9221
04:42.17chuckgI'd lose the whole ID, which was what I was after in the first place.
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04:49.03nymbiahuh? why?
04:49.09nymbiai see no id being lost
04:49.41nymbiait's the first arg in that there ...
04:50.21CIA-1103trh * r30916 10VanasKoS/ (11 files in 3 dirs): VanasKoS: rewrite of the parser
04:50.59chuckgself.hooks[object].create(...) would be = self.hooks["WorldStateCaptureBar"] then.
04:51.06chuckgWhich wouldn't call the right function..
04:51.49nymbiaacehook alters the incoming args
04:51.59nymbiaso the object's available
04:52.25chuckgSo it'd be: myAddon:CaptureBar_Create(object, ...)
04:52.30chuckgANd id would magically be populated?
04:52.53nymbiawell the id is the first arg, right?
04:53.05nymbiaso
04:53.05chuckgOf CaptureBar_Create(), yes.
04:53.23nymbialocal id = (...)
04:54.25chuckghttp://ace.pastey.net/9222
04:54.29chuckgCorrect?
04:55.18nymbialooks right
04:55.30chuckgI'll give it a shot, thanks for the help.
04:55.56nymbia:)
04:57.41chuckgThat doesn't seem to work.
04:58.20chuckgattempt to concatenate local "id" which is nil.
04:59.39chuckgobject is = 1.
04:59.47chuckgSo it's passing id as the first argument in that function.
05:02.35nymbiaah
05:02.39nymbiawell you dont need it anyway
05:03.44nymbiahttp://ace.pastey.net/9223
05:03.57chuckgUnfortunately, http://ace.pastey.net/9220-4byh is not returning the frame reference either.
05:04.22chuckgThat won't work either.
05:04.30nymbiahmmm
05:04.34chuckgIt creates the frame.
05:04.48chuckgBut the return reference to the frame needed in frame = uiInfo.create(extendedUIShown) isn't getting created.
05:04.58nymbiado a /dump self.hooks
05:07.08chuckgdhttp://chuckg.org/dump/2007/moveframes_hookdump.jpg
05:08.01chuckghttp://chuckg.org/dump/2007/moveframes_hookdump.jpg
05:09.49nymbiahrmm.. well that call should work just fine
05:09.56nymbiahttp://ace.pastey.net/9224 ?
05:10.03chuckgI'll show you the error.
05:11.15chuckgI really hate obscure stuff like this.
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05:14.23chuckghttp://chuckg.org/dump/2007/moveframes_referenceerror.jpg
05:14.34chuckgBasically it's not returning.
05:14.44chuckgI guess I could just cheat.
05:15.00chuckgThe original CaptureBar_Create is so small anyway..
05:15.03nymbiachuckg: are you passing the id into the self.hooks call?
05:15.05chuckgI could just transpose the code over.
05:15.08chuckgYep.
05:15.13chuckgCaptureBar_Create
05:15.16chuckgErr..
05:15.18chuckgself.hooks[ExtendedUI.CAPTUREPOINT].create(id)
05:16.24nymbiaoh return is
05:16.26nymbiait*
05:16.55nymbiareturn self.hooks[ExtendedUI.CAPTUREPOINT].create(id)
05:17.13chuckgK.
05:17.41chuckgImagine, all this just so I can overlay a frame to move this little prick when it's created.
05:17.42chuckg:(
05:17.54nymbiahehe
05:18.03chuckgPerfect, no error.
05:18.08chuckgThanks!
05:18.09chuckg=D
05:18.21nymbia:)
05:18.30chuckgSmooth sailing from here on out.
05:18.42chuckgNo I need to go have a shot of tequila.
05:18.46chuckgNow..
05:18.47chuckg=D
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05:26.20CIA-1103toadkiller * r30917 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
05:26.20CIA-11Babble-2.2:
05:26.20CIA-11-Conjure Mana Emerald
05:26.20CIA-11-Needs proper translations
05:27.35SymianAnyone know which MPQ has Interface/FrameXML/UIPanelTemplate
05:27.36Symian?
05:27.43PyrrhusSup all
05:27.44SymianOr, is there a place where such things are listed?
05:36.01art3mismost of it will be in data.mpq
05:36.15art3misunless of course there's an interface.mpq ;)
05:36.28art3misalthough the patch-xx.mpq holds lots of the updated stuff
05:36.29SymianI actually randomly found it in Data/enUS/locale-enUS.MPQ
05:36.42art3mischeck yer data directory in the wow folder
05:36.50art3misyeah
05:37.00SymianIt seems like ALL of the interface templates are found there.
05:40.01SymianI'm trying to learn to make tabs in LUA
05:40.06SymianSeems to be very tricky.
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05:46.01xinerm, hi. I have a winaceupdater/standalone question. Do I _have_ to have WAU de-package the !!!standalonelibs folder? I made a !!!Standalone.nounpack but its not downloading the libs.
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05:49.34SymianI'd help ya, xin, but I have no idea what you are talking about. (I'm very new to WoW add-on making)
05:49.45SymianIdle here for a while and someone will chime in.
05:52.25nymbiaxin: StandaloneLibraries must be unpacked for it to work, as its not an addon itself, it's just a handy tool to make the folders for all the libs
05:53.09xinugh
05:54.20xinthats uuuuugly
05:54.47nymbiause embeds then /shrug
05:55.21xin2min load times with embeds D:
05:55.37Cryectwtf
05:56.17Cryectthats long
05:56.47xinexactly
05:57.05xin"xin where are you?" "just at the loading screen" "still?" "yeah"
05:57.52Chompershow many addons do you run?
05:58.11xin50 something
05:58.31Chompersquite a few then
05:58.33SymianHo Chi Min Trail, that's a lot of addons! By my standards, at least
05:59.02xinargh fuck I just deleted my custom aguf layout D:
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05:59.48Pyrrhushow many?
05:59.56Pyrrhusxin: that sucks
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06:00.00Pyrrhusgot a backup?
06:00.24nymbiaGagorian: ping
06:00.24xinyeah, I uploaded it to the wow forums yay
06:00.24xinerr, ace
06:00.24xinwhatv
06:01.56Pyrrhusgood for you lmao
06:02.22xinif you _have_ to unpack standalone libs, whats !!!LeaveMeAloneLibraries for?
06:03.50nymbiauh.. i forgot.
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06:04.33xinbecause WAU downloads it, and extracts a !!!standalone and !!!standalone.nounpack
06:04.45nymbiaoh lets you use f12 to get addons without externals without using !!!SAL
06:05.46xini see
06:09.08Fisker-SPARTANS
06:09.31Fisker-You guys know why C&C3 isn't out?
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06:12.07SymianI want to know why HL2:E2 isn't out.
06:12.29Fisker-<PROTECTED>
06:12.30chutwigi want to know why the serpentshrine waterfall doesn't go down when you zone out
06:12.38chutwigdon't explore SSC without a warlock and a mage
06:12.44chutwigand somebody who can res
06:13.10Cryectit doesn't go down because the area trigger for it is in front of the waterfall
06:13.19CryectI like trapping people back in their
06:13.21chutwigwell
06:13.23chutwigi knew that
06:13.24Cryectthere*
06:13.31chutwigi meant it in a "why was blizzard stupid in this way" sense
06:13.32Fisker-no you didn't chuckg
06:13.35Fisker-chutwig
06:13.37Fisker-you're stupid
06:13.43chutwigk
06:15.04CIA-1103fatherjim * r30919 10loudmouth/ (loudmouth.lua loudmouth.toc):
06:15.04CIA-11loudmouth:
06:15.05CIA-11- Added initial AceComm code
06:16.57CIA-1103fatherjim * r30920 10loudmouth/:
06:16.57CIA-11loudmouth:
06:16.57CIA-11- Update externals.
06:17.15CIA-1103funkydude * r30921 10BigWigs/SC/Karathress.lua:
06:17.15CIA-11BigWigs: SC/Karathress:
06:17.15CIA-11- totem warnings
06:17.24Cryectloudmouth is this an addon to combat shutup?
06:17.28chutwigmanaged to explore most of the cavern
06:17.41Funkeh`rofl cryect
06:17.56Fisker-More liek teh other way around :P
06:18.09Fisker-anyways gonna commit suicide now that C&C3 still isn't out :(
06:19.14ZealotOnAStickarcadian?  I thought it was Akkadian?
06:19.14Symiandon't make a mess
06:19.23snurrei hate when buddies completely fucks up the most obvious lays ive ever seen *sigh*
06:22.54chutwigsnurre: did they say "i bet your vagina is large and floppy"
06:22.59chutwigbecause that's probably the #1 worst way
06:23.41ZealotOnAStickThere's always "Excuse me, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?"
06:23.58chutwigthat generally won't stop you from getting it, though
06:24.06chutwighowever it does often lead to other consequences
06:24.15snurrechutwig: must have been.. the girl even told me she'd shag him and all that.. I took care of her girlfriend and all that stuff
06:24.17Aens|SuperiorityFisker-: oh god yeah
06:24.27snurreso since he fucked up he fucked it up for me too :(
06:24.32Aens|SuperiorityFisker-: wow is so boring atm. I need something to play -_-
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06:24.58SymianAens|Superiority, play teach me how to code tabs in LUA. :-)
06:25.02SymianIt's a fun game.
06:25.13Aens|Superiorityi dont know how to either.
06:25.20Symian... I win?
06:25.27chutwigsnurre: so how did he manage it
06:25.34SymianNo. No, I definitely lose.
06:25.40chutwigother than straight up saying you're a complete munter
06:25.53snurrechutwig: i have no idea.. it's was an open goal, keeper was gone and he only had to put it.. and still fumbled :(
06:26.10snurreonly answer i got was "i suck at this" :(
06:26.11chutwighe fumbles and misses the hole in one!
06:26.23snurreyeh
06:26.32SymianThree strikes, he's out of the boxing ring!
06:26.46chutwigthis lends credence to my theory that the french hate even themselves
06:27.11snurrethey werent french, neither is he :/
06:27.17snurreso cant blame it on that either, this time
06:27.29chutwigmystery
06:27.39snurreffs, they were us'ians in paris for spring break
06:27.44chutwigc'est un grand mystère!
06:28.02CIA-1103fatherjim * r30922 10loudmouth/loudmouth.lua:
06:28.02CIA-11loudmouth:
06:28.02CIA-11-Bug fix for beta testers.
06:28.02chutwigthat constitutes all the french i can summon up any more
06:28.15snurremore than me then :p
06:29.38chutwigtanz den lasertanz
06:31.10Fisker-less QQ more pew pew
06:31.51CIA-1103fatherjim * r30923 10loudmouth/loudmouth.lua:
06:31.51CIA-11loudmouth:
06:31.51CIA-11- YABF (Yet another bug fix... anyone got raid?)
06:32.33art3misand then the plan tumbled like a house of cards...checkmate!
06:33.22chutwiggruul bugged out halfway through one of our pulls and stopped shattering and hurtful striking
06:33.27chutwighope that happens all the time :3
06:33.58Feldiawhy
06:34.08Feldiaif you can't beat him legit in your current form you don't deserve to be there
06:34.13art3mishe was feeling emo
06:34.14Feldiain his current form, rather
06:34.16chutwigraaaaaaaar angsty feldia raaaaaaaar
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06:34.28Feldiaseriously, last time I was there
06:34.30chutwigit makes it a lot easier when you have 3 or 4 people that don't absorb information very fast
06:34.31FeldiaI TRIED to die to shatter
06:34.32Feldiaand couldn't
06:34.38art3mishehe asked one of the server top guilds how they do against gruul
06:34.46chutwigand don't understand how to actually avoid dying to shatter
06:34.58art3misthe responses was "we beat him twice before the nerf, now he's on farm"
06:35.00Fisker-If you can't die to shatter you don't deserve to be there
06:35.20chutwigit amazes me how emotional people get over this game
06:35.24chutwigYOU DON'T DESERVE IT
06:35.24Feldialol yea, I guess the rest ofmy guild is too well trained to spread out that me not being able to get within a few yards of 3+ people makes me bad
06:35.26Feldiayou're right!
06:35.27Fisker-SHUT THE FUCK UP
06:35.33Fisker-:P
06:35.57chutwigunfortunately there are 3 or 4 people that like to think they know better
06:36.05art3misi cried yesterday my netherwhelp got killed
06:36.09chutwigand won't actually go for the wall or stand by one of the protected stops
06:36.10chutwigspots
06:36.18art3misyes my immune to everything non combat pet sat on a fire and died
06:36.35Feldiaand yes I am somewhat angsty atm, supposed to be raiding but my internet is shitting all over itself
06:36.36Fisker-that's blizzard for you
06:36.40FeldiaI can't connect much of anywhere
06:36.54Fisker-The "Summer Spirit" or whatever in the summer festivals can die to enviromental damage
06:36.55chutwigalso there are like 3 other people who are abysmal dps but we couldn't get rid of them because of Stupid Guild Politics
06:36.56Fisker-like bonfires
06:37.00chutwighope we have better people on next week
06:37.18art3mison a plus side that roamer elite on his chocobo and his 4 body guards died to my hand tonight solo by mistake and fluke
06:37.31chutwigsaturday raids rarely pull enough people
06:37.51art3miswho would have guessed the riders for gorefiend quest hate him as well
06:38.08Fisker-Well if gruul is easier than maulgar as some say we'll steamroll him pretty soon
06:38.26Feldiagruul is easier than the trash pulls before him
06:38.42Fisker-Sounds like onyxia alrigh
06:38.44Fisker-alright
06:38.55Fisker-I remember our first onyxia kill
06:39.01Fisker-"Ok these trash mobs are easymode"
06:39.08Fisker-So we all charge into a warder
06:39.12Fisker-Didn't know aoe+cleave
06:39.15Feldialol
06:39.16Fisker-and we pulled a second and wiped
06:39.19Feldiabet that was q uick wipe
06:39.36Fisker-Then we went in, wiped at 14% on onyxia or something and took her down second try
06:39.59art3mishot stacks make ony funny
06:40.05Cryecthaha
06:40.29art3misthe first day after 2.0 we did it with no deaths tank at 98% health and ony dead in 6mins
06:40.36Feldiaso is there a major node somewhere in the states down right now?
06:40.37art3misdidnt even get to phase 3
06:40.38Feldiathis is ridiculous
06:40.46CryectFeldia can't get online?
06:40.54FeldiaI can get on some realms
06:40.56FeldiaI can get on our vent
06:40.56art3miswhere are ya fel?
06:40.58Fisker-We once had a "we suck" streak on onyxia
06:40.59Feldiabut that's about it
06:41.05Fisker-kept getting deep breaths and all that shit
06:41.06Feldiaontario, canada
06:41.13Fisker-Once we also got like 5 warders
06:41.14art3miseast coast server?
06:41.20Feldiayea east coast
06:41.25art3miswhat realm?
06:41.36Feldiaactually it might be a central realm
06:41.38Feldiaits named burning blade
06:41.40Feldiathe realm itself is online
06:41.47Feldiajust..... something between me and there is busted
06:41.49art3miscgo?
06:41.58Feldia"persona"
06:42.05art3miscuz it sometimes has issues connecting to mae-east
06:42.21FeldiaI dunno, I've never had this issue
06:42.23art3misusually clears up around 3-4am ;P
06:42.28art3miswhen it happens
06:42.38Feldiawhatever
06:42.42Feldiatime to watch a movie
06:42.45art3misrcn has the same issue from time to time too
06:43.40CIA-1103fatherjim * r30924 10loudmouth/loudmouth.lua:
06:43.40CIA-11loudmouth:
06:43.40CIA-11- Ugh, more bugfixes, you lucky people who get to watch me screw up again. :)
06:45.26CIA-1103funkydude * r30925 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC: add Vashj mod
06:45.46Funkeh`gn all
06:45.49Symiannight
06:53.53art3mishttp://img320.imageshack.us/img320/9795/boobies1yp.jpg
06:53.56art3misNERDS!
06:55.59Fisker-WHAT IS THAT GAME
06:56.08art3misi dont know
06:59.47CryectLineage 2 I believe
07:01.01Symianwow, what a dumb design for a bra
07:01.05SymianWhat is it, hooked in to her panties?
07:01.13JJSheetslol
07:01.34Cryectits pulling them down her breasts down who knows
07:01.48Symianlol, not breast support, it's breast stretchers!
07:01.54SymianGet granny boobs before you hit 30!
07:02.14CryectProlly designed byt someone who has no idea what bras are for
07:02.27Fisker-SHOWING TITS
07:02.28JJSheetsdon't knock granny boobs until you've had 'em.
07:02.32SymianLineage Dev: "Man, I dunno, I just take em off."
07:02.54SymianJJSheets, fair enough. :-D
07:03.13SymianHas anyone read Benjamin Franklin's essay on why older women make better lovers?
07:03.35SymianI haven't read the whole thing, but the excerpts where hilarious and poigniant.
07:03.59SymianAnd my god have I veared off topic.
07:04.29JJSheetslol
07:08.46JJSheetsgn
07:08.48SymianHey... does anyone know how to mimic the "id=#" attriubute that an XML <Button> frame gets via LUA?
07:08.50Symiangoodnight.
07:09.46NargiddleySymian, frame:SetID(#)
07:09.59SymianNargiddley, hey, wouldja look at that!
07:10.00SymianThanks.
07:12.47chuckgHmm what is loudmouth..
07:13.03CryectSome strange addon that says stuff in response to events
07:13.22Cryectat least thats basically what I got from files.wowace.com
07:20.47CryectWhich seems better http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3396/buffwindowazt1.jpg or http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7946/buffwindowbho3.jpg
07:23.08SymianWell, the first is a bit clearer in purpose, but the second is much more attractive.
07:23.22SymianAssuming the purpose is to set whether or not a person should recieve a buff.
07:23.34CryectNo its showing whether players have the buff or not
07:23.45SymianOoooh then the second definitely
07:23.53SymianIMHO
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07:35.19nuoHep2nd but without the header for columns
07:35.45SymianAh, that might be good, yes
07:36.04Cryectyeah if I do the second one it would be without the header
07:36.22SymianOr maybe a header of, say, "Buffs" or "Current Buffs" or something.
07:40.11CIA-1103fatherjim * r30926 10loudmouth/ (Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua):
07:40.11CIA-11loudmouth:
07:40.11CIA-11- And yet, more bugs...
07:40.37SymianHey - does anyone know what the border BLP2 file is used for the character info ragdoll pane? IE, the frame shown when you press "c"?
07:40.49SymianI thought it was DialogBox, but it's definitely not
07:42.01CryectAll of the blizzard frames are special textures
07:42.37Symian... is there a texture I can use that looks like it?
07:42.41Cryectthe textures are all in Interface\PaperDollInfoFrame\UI-Character-CharacterTab-R1.blp
07:42.56SymianR1?
07:42.57SymianThanks!
07:43.06Cryectignore that last part
07:43.12Cryectthat just one texture
07:43.26SymianOk
07:43.28SymianSo
07:43.33Cryectbut look in data\enUS\local-enUS.mpq or well whatever language you have
07:43.41SymianYes - I'm looking at PaperDollInfoFrame right now
07:43.46Symianwhat should I be using ofr my border art?
07:43.57SymianThere are a couple of "border" and "background" blps.
07:43.59SymianI think...
07:44.02Cryectthey don't use border art
07:44.07Cryectthey just set some background textures
07:44.15SymianOoooooh.
07:44.15Cryectwith textures set to the proper sizes
07:44.45CryectBasically blizzard designs all their frames in photoshop then cuts them up into 256x256 textures
07:45.06SymianYeah, I see that now.
07:45.11SymianThat's... annoying.
07:45.13SymianFor me, anyway.
07:45.20Cryectheh yes it is if you want to copy
07:46.41SymianSo, I'm trying to do a tabbed frame and I think I've come close, but I've run in to an issue where the non-selected tabs have some empty space between them and the parent frame
07:46.48SymianEver heard of that?
07:50.38CIA-1103fatherjim * r30927 10loudmouth/loudmouth.lua:
07:50.38CIA-11loudmouth:
07:50.38CIA-11- Ugh. Passing GetTime() and comparing it across systems is a bad idea. Don't do it. Just... Don't. Send the time difference and recalculate when it arrives.
07:50.41CIA-1103nymbia * r30928 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:
07:50.41CIA-11.Glory-2.0:
07:50.41CIA-11- Adjust arena point gain for 2v2 back down to 60% until someone comes up with some hard numbers one way or the other. ;)
07:51.28nymbiaheh, GetTime() returns the number of seconds since your computer booted, that would certainly explode some things
07:52.40Cryecthahaha
07:52.53Cryecttoo bad he's not in the channel
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07:53.36nymbiayeah
07:55.55Pyrrhusquestion for you guys :)
07:56.08PyrrhusWhy would fubar stop the showing of names above peoples heads..
07:56.25Pyrrhuseven with the option turned on in the interface options
07:56.55nymbiafubar?
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07:57.08PyrrhusYea just the fubar loaded.. no other addons attached to it
07:57.19Pyrrhuswell fubar and tabletlib....
07:57.23nymbiano idea.  try toggling it off and on?
07:57.26Pyrrhusjust those 2 turned onn
07:57.33PyrrhusYea off works fine
07:57.39Pyrrhusalso... with just those 2 loaded
07:57.41nymbiai mean the setting in interface options i mean
07:57.47PyrrhusI have
07:57.50nymbiaerr.. yeah
07:58.00PyrrhusBut thats not the biggest problem..
07:58.03nymbiahrm.
07:58.09nymbianot sure then
07:58.12Pyrrhuswith just fubar2.0 and tabletlib turned on no other addons...
07:58.20Pyrrhuswhen I goto log out.. the game crashes with a critical error
07:58.26Pyrrhusevery single time..
07:58.37Pyrrhuseven deleted addon and wtf folders.. and put in just
07:58.40Fisker-mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
07:58.41chuckgOh *holy* *shit*.
07:58.43chuckgAll that work.
07:58.44Pyrrhusfubar and its required libs
07:58.45chuckgAll for nothing
07:58.51chuckgBlizzard resets the fucking capture bar every update.
07:58.53chuckg*FUCK ME*
07:58.59Fisker-fuck you
07:58.59Pyrrhuschuckg: LOL
07:59.10chuckgUnfucking real.
07:59.11Pyrrhusyou both can go fuck yourselves
07:59.14Pyrrhuslol
07:59.17chuckgI cannot believe the stupidity behind whoever wrote the capture bar code.
07:59.22Fisker-you got fucking raped
07:59.36chuckgNymbia spent an hour helping me figure out how to just fucking hook when it's made.
07:59.50chuckgI spent another 2 hours building the code around making it actually draggable/etc.
07:59.53chuckgAll to have it be for naught.
07:59.55chuckgAIDS AIDS
08:00.17nymbia:(
08:00.17Cryectcould you hook the function that updates the bar?
08:00.32Cryector at least block it somehow
08:00.43chuckgIt doesn't matter, if the point moves the whole bar deconstructs.
08:00.45chuckgI tried that.
08:00.50Fisker-This is a good day
08:00.53chuckgI tried hooking the update and then just resetting a point, if it'd been moved.
08:00.58chuckgBut it just deconstructs the entire bar.
08:01.11Fisker-And now i found out why battlegroundfu always needed to reactive the "Hide pvp objectives frame"
08:01.12CryectI'm making a guess iriel prolly didn't design it
08:01.26chuckgIt's just absurd.
08:01.37chuckgI dont know why they didn't rip the code from the AlwaysUpFrame.
08:01.42Fisker-Call slouken and say it's made of fail and aids
08:01.43chuckgInstaed the hook it into the same update.
08:01.52chuckgAnd then made a whole new method of creating it.
08:01.54chuckgIt's terrible.
08:02.47nymbiachuckg: that's pretty gross.  maybe just reassign the point every time it reconstructs?
08:02.58chuckgIt's not even reassinging the parent frame.
08:03.09chuckgIt's reassigning the actual thing that tells you where the capture is.
08:03.13chuckgAnd that moves the entire frame.
08:03.15chuckgDon't ask me how.
08:03.22nymbiamove it back! ;)
08:04.05Fisker-I'm gonna marry this moment and have a lot of babymoments with it
08:04.13chuckgYou want a good laugh nymbia?
08:04.21nymbiasure
08:04.23chuckgCheckout the latest version of my moveFrames.
08:04.27chuckgsvn.chuckg.org/trunk/moveFrames
08:04.30chuckgLet me up it now.
08:05.28chuckgOk, go for it.
08:05.45nymbialooking at the worldstateframe thing?
08:05.54chuckgCaptureBar again.
08:06.03nymbiaok
08:06.04chuckgWorldStateAlwaysUp is working gloriously.
08:06.22chuckgShift+Right click will reset a frame.
08:06.25nymbiai'll take a look in a few, on my priest at the moment
08:06.45chuckgSo when you've borked your capturebar, just shift right click it and reloadui (that's the only frame you'd have to do that with)
08:07.00SymianOh my. This is such a happy moment for me (sorry chuckg). Just got my first tabbed window fully operational.
08:07.06SymianI've never had so much fun tabbing between panes.
08:07.10nymbiaoh god does it break into pieces chuckg ?
08:07.12Cryectheh congrats
08:07.13chuckgYep.
08:07.17SymianThanks!
08:07.21chuckgThe whole frame deconstructs.
08:07.28Cryectthats how blizzard designs like all their frames
08:07.44chuckgIf you don't want it to do that, add a pframe:ClearAllPoints() to the :Reset() function.
08:07.52Cryectthey are always a bunch of pieces but the capturebar frame has no true parent or something?
08:07.57chuckgThat will bork up AlwaysUpFrame resetting, but that's not what we're messing with.
08:07.57Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1174810043160.jpg <-awesome
08:08.15Cryecthaha
08:08.17chuckgI commented out the hook for the update.
08:08.45Feldiathat's uhhhh
08:08.46Feldiainteresting
08:08.52chuckgBecause that made it go totally nutty.
08:08.57chuckgGrats on the tabs Symian.
08:09.12Gngsksweet ocupation
08:09.51Symianchuckg, thanks! Wish your frames were going smoother.
08:09.51chuckgHaha, thanks :)
08:09.51chuckgIt's not *my* frames that aren't going smooth.
08:09.51chuckgIt's just modifying someone else's! :)
08:09.54nymbiahaha yeah
08:09.58SymianRight right. That too.
08:10.04SymianBut hey, if you need someone to do tabs for you.
08:10.06SymianLook me up.
08:10.19Symian*tab* *tab* *tab*
08:10.37chuckgHhahha.
08:10.39SymianI should actually put some stuff in to these tabs.
08:10.46chuckgI'm going write something soon that hooks into the character information pane.
08:10.47SymianSo that I can see that stuff is actually changing
08:10.50chuckgI'm not looking forward to it.
08:11.16chuckgI want to add a "Gems" option to the "Spell" "Melee" "Defense" dropdowns, with data on how many gems of what colour you have.
08:11.27chuckgNice for when you're tyring to figure out what meta slots you meet.
08:11.30Sroshcool idea
08:11.43chuckgI thought so too!
08:11.44chuckg=D
08:12.09chuckgThis channel needs a vent.
08:12.22chuckgSo I can talk and give my poor fingers a break when I'm complaining about how bad blizzard frames are.
08:12.22chuckg=D
08:14.05mjcugh
08:14.22mjchas anyone solved how to track memory usage these days?
08:14.44nymbiamjc: the 'wait for 2.1' method
08:14.47nymbia;)
08:15.09SymianWhat's broken about it?
08:15.12Sroshindeed, hehe
08:15.33CIA-1103fatherjim * r30929 10loudmouth/loudmouth.lua:
08:15.33CIA-11loudmouth:
08:15.34CIA-11- Last Beta bugfix on this feature I hope? :)
08:15.49Symianoh that silly fatherjim.
08:16.21mjcnymbia: something is taking like 40 extra megs the moment I get in combat :P
08:16.26xinare there any alternatives to autobar?
08:16.33mjcwhat's wrong with autobar
08:16.36nymbiamjc: ouch
08:16.57xinit tries to hard. And autorack doesn't try enough
08:17.11Cryectsounds like a good addon for xin to add on whatever is adding an extra 40mb
08:17.40nymbiaautobar scares me
08:18.01nymbiai suppose it runs light enough but the code is so convoluted
08:18.23Cryectheh was it actually rewritten for 2.0?
08:18.30xinCryect: what?
08:18.34Cryector did they just try to fix it as best as possible
08:18.36chuckgOh man.
08:18.48mjcautobar is kinda big yeah.
08:18.50chuckgEach consecutive update makes it more and more huge, hahaha.
08:18.52Cryectxin: was just thinking of how you said it takes 2 minutes to load up
08:19.03Cryectxin: so you should add that addon that takes up 40 mb's
08:19.10xinlol
08:19.11Cryectxin: see how much slower you can load
08:19.31xin"You in yet xin?" "nah, how dead is gruul?" "2% left" "oh"
08:19.51Cryectas long as you get in with time left to roll need on all items
08:20.41mjcman.
08:21.14mjcso many good addon ideas but already have devolved into poor-ass implementations on the svn ;P
08:21.41Cryectreal simple take the idea and reimplemnt it
08:21.50Cryectfirst implementations normally suck of something
08:22.04xinI started writing something like Autorack that uses PT3.0 to determine items but I couldn't get blizzards retarded frame-xml thing to work nice so I gave up
08:22.44Gngskthat'd be swell
08:23.11xinand I need to re-upload my nametag mod to the SVN and get wiki pages made D:
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08:26.25Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1174810889395.jpg
08:26.26Fisker-I CAME
08:26.59xini usually do that in /s/ but hey
08:27.25SymianOk!
08:27.43SymianWell, one tabbed window is enough for tonight. Tomorrow: a titlebar and a red X to close the window!
08:27.46SymianGoodnight!
08:29.00mjcFisker-: wtf?
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08:29.52Solehey guys
08:30.12xinHey sole, what server do you play on?
08:30.20Soleblackrock, why?
08:30.28xinlemme guess, QED?
08:30.33Solehell no
08:30.35SoleNDC
08:30.45xinalliance or horde?
08:30.49Solehorde
08:30.58Soleyou play on BR?
08:31.07xinno, alli frostwolf
08:31.20Solewhy would you think Im in QED? :P
08:31.49xinbecause thats where all the kiwis I know hang out
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08:33.21Solehaha
08:34.20SoleIve been with NDC since jan 05 so, no chance Im goin to QED :P
08:35.07mjcmeh
08:35.11mjcsomething is still using assloads
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08:37.17chuckgYea nymbia, I had my frame that was moving set to all points.
08:37.29chuckgThat was making it go nuts, so I tried a static frame size and it still breaks apart.
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08:38.29xinwhy does ClosetGnome still give me crap when I login, I thought that wasn't allowed with Ace
08:38.59art3mistmnt rocks btw
08:39.10art3miscloser to comic than cartoon
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08:40.24Nickenyfikenlol @ topic
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08:52.19mjcone addon at a time ftl
08:58.32mjcugh
08:58.40mjcnot only am I not able to figure out which mod is doing this
08:58.45mjcbut it's really annoying
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09:02.36[Ammo]mjc: use simplified search method
09:02.45[Ammo]disable top half of addons and disable bottom half after
09:02.53[Ammo]then disable half of that half
09:02.54[Ammo]etc
09:02.59[Ammo]till you find which one is causing it
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09:04.39cncfanatics~seen Gagorian
09:05.17purlgagorian is currently on #wowace, last said: 'yeah, it's handy :D'.
09:05.17ZealotOnAStickmjc, you have a list of enabled addons?
09:05.17mjc[Ammo]: mostly done anyways
09:05.18mjcZealotOnAStick: yeah but one particular one is eating 30MB :P
09:05.36CIA-1103jayrox * r30930 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (. FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc Localization.lua): FuBar_VampwatchFu: more stringy stuff
09:05.38ZealotOnAStickRight.  Gimme a list of what you haven't eliminated yet, I may be able to help.
09:06.58mjccart icon packs, closetgnome plugins...
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09:08.54mjcautobar
09:09.24Nickenyfikenhmm im starting to get confused with SharedMedia, Surfaces, SurfacControl etc... What addon(s) should i use if i simply want to have the same texture on all addons?
09:09.41ZealotOnAStickI'd try killing autobar.  
09:09.50mjcit's not even installed atm.
09:10.07ZealotOnAStickthen why did you name it?
09:10.21ZealotOnAStickSurfaceControl should work with both.
09:10.48mjcthink I just found it
09:10.49ZealotOnAStickI don't know of anything that uses SML yet except EBB, not really ready yet, and PitBull.  
09:11.07ZealotOnAStickBut ck said that he made SML so that it would detect if Surfaces was running and add its textures.
09:11.24mjcaha
09:11.29mjcfuckin wowecon. duh!
09:11.55Nickenyfikenok but the addons that use SML got it embedded... so i only need Surfaces or SharedMedia, but SM only work with some addons?
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09:12.08chuckgDon't even know what that is.
09:12.12chuckgWhat is "wowecon"?
09:12.15nymbiamjc: why would it do stuff when you entered combat?
09:12.33mjcwell I'm killing trash
09:12.37mjcI think it does it when you leave combat
09:12.38chuckgI give up on this capturebar thing.
09:12.47chuckgSomeone awesomer can tackle it in their own addon.
09:13.37[Ammo]capturebar?
09:13.43mjcwell, that seems to have done it.
09:13.50Solewhats SML?
09:13.52chuckgThe capture state when you're on a world pvp objective or like ..
09:13.54mjcrelogging iwth autobar on to see if it works now.
09:13.57chuckgCapturing one of the 4 points in EOTS.
09:14.00chuckgIt's completely retarded.
09:14.10[Ammo]hmmok
09:14.10chuckgAnd whoever devised it's method of creation should be shelved.
09:14.21ZealotOnAStickSharedMediaLib
09:14.24[Ammo]Sole: SharedMediaLib
09:14.36Soleok
09:14.36[Ammo]can share more than just bartextures
09:15.09Soleonly other thing I can think of is sounds
09:15.27[Ammo]icons
09:15.28[Ammo]etc
09:15.31[Ammo]anything really
09:15.43[Ammo]backgrounds
09:16.20mjcany image
09:16.25mjcany texture at all :p
09:16.35[Ammo]well categorized still
09:16.43mjcwell yes
09:16.44[Ammo]you don't want someone listing the statusbars getting background textures back ;)
09:16.50mjccastbars etc.
09:26.46Solecan somebody see why http://ace.pastey.net/9227  disconnects me?
09:27.54cncfanaticsgagorian, ping
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09:31.43Soleanyone? :(
09:31.49mjc?
09:32.07Solehttp://ace.pastey.net/9227 - causes a disconnect
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09:34.17mjchum
09:35.28SoleI see no reason why it would do that =\
09:35.34Soleit doesnt spam
09:36.06mjccheck for the tooltip's existence first
09:36.09chuckgHave you tried putting that code into a function and just calling the function.
09:36.20chuckgI'm willing to be mjc is right, it's the tooltip.
09:36.28chuckgBet, rather.
09:41.48Solethe tooltip exists Im pretty sure
09:41.50Solebut ok
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09:46.58yacoobhm
09:47.12yacooba friend of mine wants to write an addon that shows translation of quest text
09:47.31yacoobnow, is there any lib to compress the text in sv? because it will eat up a lot of ram
09:47.39Pyrrhushmm
09:51.32mjcyacoob: SV is the same as what's in ram anyways
09:51.49cncfanaticsAdWSTooltip:SetOwner(AdWSTooltip, "ANCHOR_NONE"); why would a coder ever do that ?
09:53.01nymbialol
09:53.09nymbiaAdWS?
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09:58.34yacoobmjc, I know
09:58.48yacoobmjc, but it could be compressed, and decompressed on the fly
09:58.50cncfanaticsadvanced weapon stats
09:58.56cncfanaticssome addon i'm trying to get working with TBC
09:59.27mjcsounds stupid
09:59.45mjcthe code at least
09:59.53Nargiddleycncfanatics, tooltips need an anchor to be able to be scanned. that was the standard workaround for the patch that did it
10:00.13Nargiddleys/anchor/owner/
10:00.29cncfanaticsNargiddley, I can just set the anchor to UIParent ?
10:00.31Nargiddleywhich got broken a couple patches later heh
10:00.43Nargiddleyi think that'll work
10:01.14Nargiddleyhavent done much with tooltips recently but remember having to do that to a couple mods i was using at the time
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10:06.29ckknighthey all
10:07.36Elkanoho ck
10:08.02ElkanoNargiddley :) how are the bag slots for baggins coming along?
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10:08.59Nargiddleyhavent had much time to work on things lately
10:09.37Elkanobtw: you should change the tradeskill category from Tradeskill.Mat to Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession in order to exclude random stuff gathered via fishing and pick pocket
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10:10.47Nargiddleyhm, havent looked at the categories much and wasnt the one to do the pt2-pt3 transition
10:12.08Elkanowell, Tradeskill.Mat includes Tradeskill.Mat.BySource.Gather which is simply Tradeskill.Gather and thus all items gathered via fishing and pick pocket are included
10:12.16CIA-1103fatherjim * r30931 10loudmouth/ (. Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua):
10:12.16CIA-11loudmouth:
10:12.16CIA-11- Stable version for beta testers using the AceComm throttle on the easter eggs.
10:12.29ElkanoI found that when I wondered why some crafting plans showed up as tradeskill mats
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10:37.45CIA-1103nymbia * r30932 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
10:37.45CIA-11Baggins:
10:37.45CIA-11- Use Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession for default category.
10:40.24DynomDoes WowAceUpdater checks itself for possible updates also btw /
10:46.04Fisker-nope
10:54.00CIA-1103rabbit * r30933 10!SurfaceControl/SurfaceControl.lua: !SurfaceControl: Both SurfaceLib and SharedMediaLib are now optional if you run disembedded.
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11:00.03RelapseAnyone here done work with AceComm?
11:00.57Sil-DCFTLlooking for Rabbit ;)
11:01.21Relapse:)
11:02.31vhaarrSilah: hi
11:02.43Fisker-do not want
11:03.06vhaarrSilah: You must be registered with nickserv in order to have a private conversation
11:03.17vhaarrSilah: if you have a channel on quakenet, I'm online there as well
11:03.34Silahwow.method
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11:19.10Nickenyfikengod i hate Area 52
11:23.46echosSo anyone know what the deal is with the blizzard raid ui?
11:23.47echos[2007/03/25 04:22:31-49-x2]: Blizzard_RaidUI\Blizzard_RaidUI.lua:59: bad argument #1 to 'getn' (table expected, got nil)
11:24.24DynomNickenyfiken: why ?
11:26.13CIA-1103darchon * r30934 10PallyPower/ (PallyPower.toc locale/koKR.lua):
11:26.13CIA-11PallyPower:
11:26.14CIA-11- update koKR
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11:37.41Adirellehey ya
11:37.46Adirelleany though on coroutines ?
11:38.17Adirelles/gh/ghts/
11:39.32Adirelleone answer at a time please :p
11:41.20Gagoriancncfanatics: pong
11:42.14CIA-1103adirelle * r30935 10BankList/ (BankList.lua localization.lua): BankList: refactored the search engine.
11:42.57CIA-1103darchon * r30936 10MountMe/ItemSwap.lua:
11:42.57CIA-11MountMe:
11:42.57CIA-11- support for Blade's Edge Arena and Nagrand Arena
11:45.41Dynomckknight: omfg, Pitbull in a raid == LOTA a windows
11:45.48NickenyfikenDynom: players standing on roofs and barrens pking
11:45.53ckknightLOTA?
11:45.59ckknightwhat's LOTA?
11:46.17RelapseI think it's like lots, only spelt wrong :P
11:46.33harldephin"lotta windows" ?
11:46.47CIA-1103adirelle * r30937 10BankList/BankList.lua: BankList: oops, forgot to disable debugging.
11:47.41Adirelleckknight: any opinion about using lua 5.1 coroutines with wow ? ever tried ? pro ? against ? don't care ?
11:47.57ckknightthey're too heavy for me
11:48.02ckknightmuch like your mom
11:48.22cncfanaticsGagorian, still here ?
11:48.35ckknightit has to replicate a lot of data
11:48.43ckknightwhich makes it a bit of a memory hog
11:49.00ckknightI'd prefer to deal with it manually and run a function with time checks through OnUpdate
11:49.07ckknighta la ClearFont2
11:49.20ckknightwhen it runs through all the fontstrings
11:49.24Adirellewell, in this case, it's much a "resumable function"
11:50.04AdirelleBankList can handle queries from many player, it only output 20 results at a time, and then you can sent "next" to get the 20 next results
11:50.30Adirellethe idea was to use the yield/resume capability of coroutines
11:51.10ckknightand although that's great in theory, the heaviness bothers me
11:52.35Adirellewell, as I understand it, it's not like threads, but more than resumable closures, may need to make some test to see how it eat memory
11:54.39harldephinis there an add-on that can keep track of my auctions while i'm not near an auction house ? or is there just no way of definitely identifying an auction by the information sent with the mails from the auction house or the messages in the chat window telling me that a certain item has been sold..?
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11:55.40Dynomckknight: Lotsa
11:56.02ckknightit happens when you have lots of raid members
11:56.06Dynomckknight: so a lot :-]
11:56.16Dynomyeah but is there a way to not show it in raid?
11:56.28Dynomjust like blizzards party setup
11:56.41AdysWoah. I just lived my worst moment in wsg ever oO
11:56.43Adyshttp://adys.stools.net/ohshit.jpg
11:57.06Dynomckknight: and perhaps a smaller frame for the pets
11:57.11Gagoriancncfanatics: aye
11:57.32ckknightdude, you're going to have to accept that it's not ready for general consumption
11:57.49DynomI know, just features that pop into mind right now
11:57.56ckknightnow telling me stupid requests like that (and you must admit that it is stupid) does not help the overall project
11:57.59ckknightI need grand schemes
11:58.09ckknightpossibilities for layouts
11:58.11ckknightaura bugs
11:58.13ckknightetc
11:58.29Dynomwell I asume you already have that figured out ?
11:58.37Dynomon how to do it I mean
11:58.39ckknightnot stupid little requests that you know will be fulfilled later when the config system gets worked out
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11:59.19Dynomokay, nvm what I said
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12:00.48FinCide: what do you use in your tests that you paste to IRC? I'm curious because of the prompt - is it just different prompt, or something more interesting? :)
12:01.02Finfirst mistell of the day! that means everyone has to ignore it
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12:01.29Dynomwell rather that then your painfull Cybersex msg
12:01.44cncfanaticsGagorian, there are some errors with paladins and DrDamage
12:05.11Bibipaladins ? damages ? yeah, there is definitely an error
12:05.29cncfanaticslol
12:05.51cncfanaticsmy twinked pala pawns all :p
12:06.01cncfanaticswell "twinked", not rly, but nicely geared :p
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12:07.48harldephinlol
12:07.48harldephinoh noes. irc netsplits and wow servercrashes at the same time.
12:12.45Gagoriancncfanatics: Alright, PM me with the stuff
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12:14.19cncfanaticsGagorian, sec :)
12:14.26ravagernlHey guys
12:14.44ravagernlI was wondering, can anyone update Rowne's beginnings?
12:14.57ravagernlI want to have a few macro's executed when I login
12:15.30CIA-1103rabbit * r30939 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Vashj: Remove the lightning and multishot warnings, add warnings for cores looted, static charge and phases.
12:16.24harldephinDeclineDuel doesn't save its settings.
12:20.07Gnarfozlol http://acceptable.tv/contest/tv/videos/244-Homeless-James-Bond
12:27.00Gnarfoz!
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12:47.54CIA-1103minorann * r30940 10ERP/:
12:47.54CIA-11ERP:
12:47.54CIA-11- Adding externals
13:00.29Tornhoofelkano: ping
13:00.36Elkanopong
13:01.05Tornhoofconstantly getting TriggerEvent error msg in sharedmedia
13:01.33Elkanolatest version?
13:01.36Tornhoofhttp://ace.pastey.net/9241
13:01.37Tornhoofyeh
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13:01.43Tornhoof30641
13:02.22Tornhoofehm
13:02.24Tornhoofnot latest
13:02.25Tornhoofwtf
13:02.26Elkano30843 is latest
13:02.46Elkanoit should fix that bug
13:03.41Tornhoofwau problem then
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13:04.59Tornhoofyeh fixes that
13:05.05Tornhoofsorry for bothering you
13:05.26Elkano^^
13:06.07Tornhoofany reason why you didn't add aceevent-2.0 to the externals?
13:08.55CIA-1103elkano * r30941 10SharedMedia/ (Libs/ SharedMedia.toc):
13:08.55CIA-11SharedMedia
13:08.55CIA-11- added missing AceEvent-2.0 external
13:09.38Elkanowell... ;)
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13:11.56CIA-1103rabbit * r30942 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Vashj: Only message about missing deformat if noone else in the raid has it.
13:13.01Elkanobtw, Tornhoof, what are you checking out that you need ShredMedia for it?
13:17.09CIA-1103rabbit * r30943 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Vashj: Warn when barriers go down.
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13:20.46Tornhooftrying to put timer bar textures into yata
13:24.07Elkanoah :)
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13:26.35Elkanowith SharedMediaLib it isn't that hard. Especialy when you are using an AceOption table. Simply make a 'text' entry using SharedMediaLib:List() as validation table and have your bars fetch that set texture from SML. Also make sure to update your textures once one of the two events from SML fires sinc that could change the texture shown
13:28.39Fisker-I might be able to fap Elkano
13:28.59JoshBorkei really didn't need to know that Fisker-
13:29.33ElkanoFisker-, try hard and in a few years you may succed
13:31.06Fisker-i did it!
13:33.19FinOK, I give up. I'm just not smart enough to figure this out I guess.
13:34.10Finis there anyone who would help me figure out how to do something in a Prat module?
13:34.43ElkanoFisker- will... *me runs*
13:35.25JoshBorkeFin: what isn't working?
13:35.39Daemona*grumbles* where can i disable that PINK mutilate msg in the latest sct? :X
13:36.08Daemonai'm not even mutilate specced ^^
13:36.08FinJoshBorke: I can't get it to do substitutions for the aliases properly
13:37.15FinJoshBorke: so, /alias /thello /whisper %t hello, then target self and /thello+enter: "no such player "%t" online"
13:37.59FinI think it's because alias expansion happens after substitution replacement, but I can't figure out how to either get it to redo substitutions manually or automatically or anything
13:40.57Punkie`Daemona: mutilate message? whats it for?
13:44.35CIA-1103trh * r30944 10VanasKoS/Locales/ (Parser.lua deDE.lua): VanasKoS: small parser improvements
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13:45.07xyuHow do i save / load profiles w/ bartender 3?
13:45.59xyuif i type in Copy from and another characters name it says it does not exist
13:46.07xyuif i log on that said char, i dont know where to "save" it
13:46.33Adirellecya
13:47.01Fineither type "char" in the "other" field, or choose your current character from the list of available profiles
13:47.11Finat installation it's set to "default"
13:48.34JoshBorkeno clue
13:48.40xyuits weird though if i log on my other char. the list of available profiles is Default, XXX of XX, Realm of"
13:48.59xyuthen if i log on my other char it says the same thing but YYY of XX instead of all my characters w/ profiles
13:49.10xyuit just shows whoever is logged on atm.
13:55.19FinI would guess, because you haven't actually created any character specific profiles yet?
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13:55.43Fintry creating a new one with the "other" option, just call it test or something
13:55.53Finthen relog and see if it shows up in another character's list
13:55.58xyuso the "name" is probably the other field
13:56.11Fineh?
13:56.16xyuname of hte profile
13:56.17xyuthe*
13:58.08Findoe s it say "name" instead of "other"? sorry
13:58.38xyuno no. it says other, it's just that the "other" field gets filled in automatically when i use the "Choose" field.
13:58.46xyui'll fool around with it though, thanks
13:59.41xyui'll try manually naming the "other" field to something else.
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14:22.33CIA-1103gagorian * r30945 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua Data/Paladin.lua DrDamage.lua):
14:22.33CIA-11DrDamage:
14:22.33CIA-11-Added Judgement of Vengeance, Fixed lower ranks of JotC being detected as max rank, capped Damage/healing until oom to 1M
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14:26.15Gnarfozdrdamgage does what again?
14:26.21xyuweird
14:26.26xyui'll ask that question again in case i lost it.
14:26.29xyuis there any addon that shows a frames name and/or parent name
14:26.33xyui have action bars on my screen and i dont know what addon is making it.
14:26.39cncfanaticsGnarfoz, its a theorycraft like addon
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14:27.59xyumoveanything used to say the parent window name of the frame or whatever
14:28.02xyui wonder if visor does
14:28.04CIA-1103tornhoof * r30946 10Yata/ (Core.lua Timers.lua Yata.toc libs/ readme.txt):
14:28.04CIA-11Yata:
14:28.04CIA-11- Added SharedMedia support for timer bar texturing
14:30.14CIA-1103solor * r30947 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Vashj: typo
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14:38.47Nickenyfiken~seen Mikma
14:39.10purlmikma <i=mikma@reaktio.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 40d 18h 13m 54s ago, saying: 'Xuerian: yeah i hit the wall wsith full speed'.
14:39.19cladhairehaven't seen Mikma in a LONG time =/
14:39.22cladhairehope all is well
14:42.11Nickenyfikenyeah i was thinking the same
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14:49.44CIA-1103gagorian * r30948 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
14:49.44CIA-11DrDamage:
14:49.44CIA-11-More paladin fixes, melee based stuff 200% crit, melee crit %
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15:08.33cncfanaticspala power !
15:09.08Fisker-idneed
15:09.08trhyeah! bubble & hearthstone power!
15:09.10Fisker-i liek
15:10.08CIA-1103gagorian * r30949 10DrDamage/Data/Paladin.lua:
15:10.09CIA-11DrDamage:
15:10.09CIA-11-Judgement of Blood
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15:17.47CIA-1103trh * r30950 10VanasKoS/ (6 files in 4 dirs): VanasKoS: FuBar AddOn: OneClick function to add a last attacker to kos, some parser changes
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15:19.09xyubah
15:19.15xyui'm sorry i disconnected
15:19.18xyuand someone had said my name
15:19.27xyujust as my computer reboot
15:19.39xyudid anyone answer how to check the name of a frame or its parent
15:20.00phyberckknight: you around?
15:20.04phyber2007/03/25 16:16:07-1820-x1]: Parser-3.0-30308 (FuBar_TopScoreFu):75: AceLocale(Parser-3.0): Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice.
15:20.12phyberyou have any idea what would cause this?
15:20.19phyberpeople on wowi have started bitching :/
15:20.43phybersince I'm using locals the same was as any other addon and only providing enUS once, I can't see what the problem is.
15:20.58xyucan someone scroll up plz
15:21.03xyuand tell me if anyone answered that question? :)
15:21.27JoshBorkei don't see anything
15:21.36xyuok
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15:21.52xyui thought there was a slash command to tell what my mouse is over
15:22.05xyuoh well :)
15:22.15JoshBorkethere is: /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName()
15:22.21xyuhot, thakns
15:22.21JoshBorkei also recommend DevTools
15:22.22xyuthanks
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15:42.19knarf-I hate daylight saving times
15:42.20knarf-...
15:45.56harldephinyea
15:46.21Fisker-It makes me feel so much superior
15:46.41knarf-well I woke up and thought it was 16:30 .. its not
15:46.45knarf-its 17:30
15:46.47knarf-!!!
15:47.00knarf-now my day is ruined :<
15:47.14Loki|muhlol :)
15:51.56Nickenyfikenhaha
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15:52.55cncfanaticswell, u shldnt wake up at 16:30 anyway, slackah !
15:53.26knarf-cncfanatics but its weekend and I went to bed at 07:00 or 08:00 not really sure :P
15:53.47cncfanaticswent to bed at 4am, woke up at 10am -.-
15:53.55Pneuhmm, am i missing something simple, is there a pretty way to do a /dump inside LUA code... I cant find the actual script function in AceConsole
15:53.55knarf-o.O
15:54.04knarf-cncfanatics I like sleeping :P
15:54.17cncfanaticshehe
15:54.19JoshBorkePneu: DevTools has a DevTools_Dump function
15:55.57Pneuahh, that might do the trick
15:56.05CIA-1103rabbit * r30952 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Vashj: Added a static charge bar.
15:56.12JoshBorke~devtools
15:56.16purlIriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at   http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999  Why isn't it in the default client yet?
15:56.23vhaarrAceConsole-2.0 has a /dump as well.
15:56.40JoshBorkehe wants it from the lua side
15:56.57vhaarrPneu: If you want to do it programatically, do AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(...)
15:57.07vhaarror just self:PrintLiteral if you have it as mixin
15:57.19Pneuvhaarr: thanks
15:57.22vhaarrnp
15:57.55PneuDKPmon, powerful as it may be is a bloody nightmare to modify to my EXACT dkp arrangement :)
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16:03.28Fisker-lolololol
16:03.37Fisker-knotchan tries to say that the pictures of her were shopped
16:03.52Fisker-1 million hours in mspaint then
16:04.18JJSheetswho or what are you talking about, and do you have a link to the pictures in question?  :)
16:04.34Fisker-you wouldn't want to see
16:04.43Fisker-Some chick posted pics of her having sex with a dog
16:04.49JJSheetsummm....
16:04.54Fisker-Now she claims it was some lowlife scums who photoshopped it
16:05.12JJSheetswho the hell is knotchan?
16:05.34Fisker-it's a name
16:05.49Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1174838208286.jpg <-somewhat sfw :P
16:06.00Fisker-that's her
16:06.06Fisker-and there's even worse pictures :o
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16:06.58JJSheetsyou're right, I don't think I wanna see em...
16:07.15markus_lol Fisker-
16:08.23CIA-1103rabbit * r30953 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Cache the icon paths so we don't have to do a string concatenation every time one is requested.
16:09.25JJSheetsyou wouldn't happen to have a "normal" picture of her?  and more importantly... is she a celebrity or something somewhere?  or just some ijit girl who took photos of herself screwing a dog and is now pissed about them being on the internet?
16:09.42Fisker-second part :P
16:09.50Fisker-http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Image:Mustlovedogs.jpg
16:09.56Fisker-That one is normal :P
16:10.02winkilleris it in /an/ ? :P
16:10.08Fisker-infact you can look here: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Poeticirony
16:10.23Fisker-they censored the porn from it :P
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16:12.27JJSheetsFisker-, I feel dirty now...
16:12.44JJSheetsah well, back to playing WoW...
16:12.49knarf-Why are you looking at pics of a girl screwing a dog? :>
16:13.07JJSheetsthat is one fat girl.  I actually feel sorry for the dog.
16:13.21knarf-Mental pictures
16:13.22Fisker-the lulz knarf-
16:13.24knarf-go away already!
16:13.47JJSheetsthat dog could definitely do better than her, he shouldn't be stooping that low.
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16:15.01chutwigwhat would we on the internet do without encyclopedia dramatica
16:16.41Fincomplain
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16:17.16GagorianAny paladin here with Seal of Command?
16:17.22Fisker-<-
16:17.46GagorianCan you give me the base damage ranges for the judgement?
16:17.57Fisker-sec
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16:19.30Fisker-highest rank?
16:19.38Gagorianall ranks if possible :]
16:20.15Fisker-Rank 1: 68-73(137-146 if stunned)
16:20.27Fisker-Rank 2: 97-105(194-209 if stunned)
16:20.44Fisker-Rank 2: 124-135(248-269 if stunned)
16:21.01Fisker-Rank 2: 154-168(309-336 if stunned)
16:21.03Fisker-err
16:21.06Fisker-insert 3 and 4 :P
16:21.08Fisker-i'm lazy
16:21.31ravagernltekkub: is this error caused by feedomatic? http://pastey.net/9262
16:21.34Fisker-Rank 5: 193-211(387-422 if stunned)
16:21.54Fisker-Rank 6: 228-252(456-504 if stunned)
16:21.57Fisker-that's it
16:22.40TekkubtekiRate is dead, RatingsBuster got fixed up enough to make me happy
16:23.07GagorianFisker-: thanks. Got Seal of Vengeance by any chance?
16:23.20ravagernlgagorian: wowhead ftw http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20375
16:23.21Fisker-seal of vengeance?
16:23.35JoshBorkeas long as you're happy tekkub, we're happy
16:23.46Fisker-Ah that's the alliance seal
16:24.13Fisker-No i don't got that one
16:24.13ravagernlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31801
16:24.13ravagernlthanks tekkub
16:24.13Gagorianravagernl: Before you go on a rampage, check the wowhead values and compare to what Fisker- gave me :)
16:24.17GagorianThen you can see why I'm asking!
16:24.24Tekkubaye, the big thig was caching results, the parse function can be kinda costly if it's only ever called once for each unique string
16:24.36Finoh god she is a bit large isn't she
16:25.02ravagernl:o whats the reason its different damage then
16:25.03GagorianFisker-: Aye, alright.. well thanks for these. Need to find an alliance paladin somewhere!
16:25.04Fisker-Well why is it different? :o
16:25.22GagorianBecause wowhead gives damage at the level you learn them
16:25.26Fisker-ah
16:25.32GagorianBut in reality it increases for each level until you get next rank
16:25.55GagorianSo I need to ask for each spell each rank from a level 70 char -_-
16:26.04Fisker-Mine was for level 70 btw
16:26.06Fisker-ok :P
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16:33.34ravagernlgagorian: is there an algorithm you can use to get the spelldamage when using the values from lowest level and highest level
16:34.06Tornhoofit's dependent on spell rank
16:34.14Tornhoofor rather spell level
16:34.44Gagorianravagernl: You mean the effects of downraking?
16:34.49ravagernlyup
16:34.59GagorianYes, I've got some in place :)
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16:35.11GagorianBut there's some exceptions which make no sense
16:35.17GagorianBut generally it works decent
16:36.02GagorianFor healing spells: lowRankFactor = ( spell.maxLevel + downRankMod + 6 ) / playerLevel
16:36.26ravagernlcool
16:36.27Gagorianand damage: lowRankFactor = ( spell.maxLevel + downRankMod + 4 ) / playerLevel
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16:36.48Gagoriandownrank mod is something if the spell rank isn't learned according to standards
16:36.52ravagernland how do you get maxlevel and downrankmod then?
16:36.55Gagorianstandard is damage spell new rank each 8 levels
16:37.01ravagernlnvm you just told
16:37.05Gagorianstandard for heal is new rank every 6 levels
16:37.11Gagorianmax level is the level before the next rank is learned
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16:37.31Gagorianso basically downranking will take effect for damagespells 4 levels after learning the next rank
16:37.44Gagorianand healing 6
16:38.12ravagernli see
16:38.27ravagernlyou wouldnt use downranking for damagespells anyway i guess
16:39.25ravagernlby the way can you tell me a pattern to match the damage caused by aimed shot? trying to make a critical headshot kill addon :P
16:40.05GagorianDon't know much about huntards :]
16:40.06ravagernlthe event is CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE i figured out
16:40.21ravagernlmaybe i need to install msbt just for that to check it out
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16:40.50ravagernlbut the format should be like Your AImed Shot crits <mobname> for 1234
16:40.57CIA-1103gagorian * r30954 10DrDamage/Data/Paladin.lua:
16:40.57CIA-11DrDamage:
16:40.57CIA-11-More Paladin data. Wee.
16:41.47vhaarr^Your Aimed Shot crits %S+ for (%d+).$"
16:41.59vhaarrnah
16:42.02vhaarrmob names can have spaces
16:42.22ravagernlcurrently from an old mod theres a nisted if:
16:42.24ravagernllocal dam = string.gsub(string.gsub(arg1,".* for ","")," .*","");
16:42.29ravagernlnested*
16:42.33vhaarr^Your Aimed Shot crits .* for (%d+).$ maybe
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16:43.15ravagernl(hits|crits) is that a valid pattern?
16:43.40ravagernlno wait, i want to catch crits only :)
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16:44.54ravagernlold code is right here: http://pastey.net/9263
16:45.30ravagernldon't know why that guys just doesnt register the event when no mobhealth3 is found
16:47.53ravagernlso vhaarr, should i use string.gsub or something else
16:48.10vhaarrlocal dmg = select(3, arg1:find(...))
16:48.18vhaarrreplace ... with the regexp I wrote
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16:49.20ravagernlyeah that's obvious
16:49.37Arrowmastercouldnt that just be local dmg = arg1:match(...)?
16:49.54Finoh my
16:50.07Finwhat a classic response from a GM to a mate who was whinging about defense
16:50.12snurre-hm, seems all of a sudden absolutely everyone started using facebook o.O
16:50.25Fin"tell you what, I'll tell you I'll look into it so I can go for a coffee and a wank. speak to you later."
16:51.50FinI can imagine being driven to saying something like that though, knowing what an expert whingebag my mate can be
16:52.24FinI'm not getting involved in the specifics of the debate! just a funny comment is all :)
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16:59.05ravagernlGoing to name my little addon "AimedKill" hehe
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17:08.08Silviu-[Cartographer_InstanceLoot] PT3 has no table [InstanceLoot.Mag] theridon`s [Lair.mag] theridon
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17:24.48CIA-1103rabbit * r30955 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Bugfix.
17:25.36mjcKaelten: ping
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17:33.38kergothhttp://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/about is nifty
17:34.08ag`I'm toying with the idea of either coding modules for PitBull or starting from scratch myself
17:34.18ag`because my code could use a rewrite
17:34.58ag`and ckknight uses the ideas I like, modules, customizable text tags and so on
17:35.37ag`layouts etc
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17:39.23Funkeh`hi all
17:40.13ravagernlag` Don't know if ck like you being codeveloper for pitbull
17:41.53CIA-1103ag * r30956 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: width step set to 1
17:42.26ag`ravagernl: I don't want to be a codev
17:42.48ravagernlhmm
17:42.58ravagernlo yeah, right, modules
17:46.07Silviu-ravagernl why should he don`t want ?
17:46.09Silviu-o.O
17:46.25ag`well for one ckknight is a better coder than me :P
17:46.43ravagernlmight be a better coder but he reminds me of rowne lol
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17:48.45ag`yeah but I rowne rocks
17:48.55ag`*think
17:49.57vhaarrag`: fucking finally
17:50.01vhaarrwhere have you been the last week?
17:50.28ag`I actually can't recall now
17:50.32ag`I think I've been at work
17:50.56vhaarr:P
17:51.07ag`haha, I hate that feeling
17:51.13ag`I can recall now
17:51.18ag`wednesday work+raid
17:51.29ag`thursday a birthday and cinema
17:52.03ag`friday I came home late from work and went out
17:52.11ag`saturday I was at my sisters
17:52.17ag`and today I was at work until now
17:52.24vhaarryeah yeah, I didn't ask for your life story, I was just pointing out the fact that we missed you
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17:52.29ag`:P
17:52.32vhaarr^^
17:52.48ag`yeah but you got me scared there, because when I tried to think back I had a black hole
17:53.04vhaarrhehe
17:53.27ag`that's wierd... I think I need to sleep more :P
17:53.39ag`anyway, how can I help you?:)
17:53.40[dRaCo]sleep is heavily overrated.
17:53.57ag`I used to think that too
17:54.37ag`oh yeah, and I've been watching like 15 episodes of mythbusters
17:55.03[dRaCo]are going to stop developing aguf when you start to write modules for pitbull?
17:55.19ag`I don't know what yet
17:55.38ag`it depends on what direction ckk takes Pitbull
17:55.56Silviu-i think same as Carto no ? ;)
17:56.00ag`I code to have stuff I use myself, and if ckk allows me to do the stuff aguf can do, I'll use that instead
17:57.57ag`[dRaCo]: if pitbull can do that same as aguf and is better coded, I see no reason to continue my efforts
17:58.11[dRaCo]yeah, good point.
17:58.16ag`so it depends on what pitbull will be able to do eventually, when ckk gets it further
17:58.21[dRaCo]aguf rocks, though ;)
17:59.00ag`hehe, I like it too, but there's stuff I am unhappy with, so either I will do a rewrite from scratch again or I will use pitbull
18:00.19[dRaCo]there's a little bug, while we're at it. If a priest mcs a mob and mc wears off, the health bar of that mob is still green.
18:00.24ravagernlwould be really good if you could just write modules with features ckk doesnt want to implement
18:00.45Silviu-ag` i think best would be have a conversation with ckk before, ask him what will become with Pitbull etc a
18:00.59[dRaCo]brb
18:01.49ag`yeah, I'll poke him with suggestions
18:02.00ag`I'd like if the layout system was dynamic the way aguf is
18:02.17ag`like if you disable the mana bar, the castbar will stick to the healthbar instead, etc
18:05.53Amadeoag`: Planet Earth is on tonight
18:06.10FinI have just spent the last 45 minutes enabling and disabling addons to figure out which one was causing other addons to stop loading (and weird things to happen with profiles), and am happy to announce that a successful resolution has been accomplished: it was Fizzle
18:06.26CIA-1103ag * r30957 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: width step set to 1 (take two)
18:06.36AdysThis is so much of a joke material, Fin
18:06.45AdysSomehow..
18:08.03Finit causes an error to be raised about OnInstanceInit can't be done twice
18:08.29Finwhich unfortunately Bugsack shows as being from FuBar, not Fizzle
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18:10.58add\\Leialyncan someone with svn access quickly update BigWigs Magtheridon module? ^^
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18:11.09vhaarryes
18:11.16vhaarradd\\Leialyn: What's wrong with it?
18:11.18add\\Leialynline 84 = escape_trigger2 = " Ich... bin... frei!",
18:11.22add\\Leialynoh mom
18:11.26add\\Leialyngonna pastey
18:11.45add\\Leialynbliz added a space at the front of escape message
18:12.41add\\Leialynhttp://ace.pastey.net/9265
18:12.42add\\Leialyn^^
18:13.03add\\Leialynits only escape trigger and banish trigger
18:14.07CIA-1103rabbit * r30958 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: BigWigs: Magtheridon: deDE update by Leialyn.
18:18.44CIA-1103rabbit * r30959 10Transcriptor/Core.lua: Transcriptor: Cleanup and add some help output.
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18:44.44AmadeoWhat addons will tell me how long an enemy buff will last? Say...Ice Block or Divine Shield?
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18:46.29kergothAmadeo: antagonist does that.
18:46.42Amadeonice
18:46.57Amadeokergoth: Planet Earth on tonight for real :P
18:47.11JoshBorkekergoth: still having trouble with GUildBook?
18:47.19CIA-1103rabbit * r30961 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: Comm: Slight optimization when sending syncs.
18:48.06CIA-1103cryect * r30962 10BigBrother/ (. BigBrother.toc): BigBrother - Added Externals
18:51.05cncfanaticsanyone with a high level paladin around ? :p I need some tips
18:51.15JoshBorkecncfanatics: reroll
18:51.33cncfanaticsJoshBorke: die :)
18:51.39Amadeocncfanatics: It's Shield then Hearth, not Hearth then Shield!
18:51.41JoshBorkei have a 60 paladin :-P
18:52.14cncfanaticsJoshBorke, what build to level ?
18:52.23cncfanaticshesitating between 0/0/* and 0/25/*
18:52.31JoshBorkedpends.  aoe grinding works well as protection
18:52.31cncfanaticsjust dinged 46; so I get SoC anyway
18:52.43cncfanaticstried AoE grinding, I don't like it :p
18:52.43AmadeoWhat's with all the new LCD monitors these days? They're getting worse
18:52.51JoshBorkethen go retribution
18:52.57cncfanaticsi'm just wondering if reckoning is worth sacrifying a part of my ret tree for
18:52.57JoshBorkei hate my 60 paladin :-P
18:52.58JoshBorkejust fyi
18:53.05JoshBorkeyes
18:53.08JoshBorkereckoning is nice
18:53.17cncfanaticsreckoning from prot and the rest in retri looks damn nice
18:53.23AmadeoIt used to be that a 20" LCD was 1600x1200, and anything above that had a higher resolution...now all the 22" LCDs are 1680x1050...that's pretty low res considering the 2 extra inches
18:53.44Arrowmasterits widescreen
18:53.58Amadeoeven so
18:54.00JoshBorkecncfanatics: yea
18:54.04Amadeoyou could find 20" widescreens with that res
18:54.07Amadeopretty common
18:54.10Arrowmasterits much longer but not much taller
18:54.13AmadeoI don't see why 22" are like that
18:55.22Arrowmasterand the problem is more of a common res problem, not sure theres a good common res larger than 1680x1050 thats not too large for a 22
18:55.24AmadeoShould be like 1920x1200
18:56.01AmadeoI'm wondering if that's the problem, or if they're just using cheaper panels
18:56.09AmadeoI've heard something about "TN" panels that aren't as good as others
18:57.38Kaeltenhttp://hacked.free-bsd.org/funstuff/pics/362.html
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18:58.54AmadeoKaelten: It's like hair :P
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19:00.42robotuschAnyone know if it's possible to remove the spell icons from Eavesdrop - or at least scale them down?
19:00.48AmadeoI need to find a really good deal on a laptop I can game on :)
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19:12.45ravagernlanyone know any good addons that notify you if your pets growl is on when going in battlegrounds
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19:20.20Ominousckknight
19:20.50Ominousckknight: would it be possible to make names shorten if they are too long to be displ;ayed without goinging into the healt of the player
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19:26.43CIA-1103funkydude * r30963 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: add some extra locales
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19:30.42cncfanaticslol, wtf ?
19:31.05cncfanaticsmy addons error: Attempt to call method "NewModule", a nil value
19:31.07cncfanaticsjust WTF ?
19:31.27ckknightOminous: you do it
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19:33.29cncfanaticscan someone tell me why all my ace addons are bugging ?
19:33.35Relapse|afkKaelten:  http://hacked.free-bsd.org/funstuff/pics/ - damn, productivity just took a serious nose dive!
19:34.25cncfanaticsckknight, any changes to AceModule recently ?
19:34.26chuckgAnyone else having issue with fubar not keeping buffs pushed down?
19:34.38ckknightcncfanatics: yea
19:34.42Aens|Superiorityugh
19:34.47Aens|Superiorityfirst wau breaks, now wuu breaks
19:34.54Aens|Superiorityas in, both just stop working out of the blue
19:35.17cncfanaticsckknight, I just update bigwigs and aguf, and all my ace addons just broke
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19:36.04cncfanaticsany, eh, solution ?
19:36.11vhaarrcncfanatics: Perhaps you could be more specific.
19:36.22vhaarr"help my x broke" doesn't tell us *anything*.
19:37.32JoshBorkeluke!  i am your father!
19:37.32cncfanaticsvhaarr, all addons just broke, including bugsack
19:38.20cncfanaticsI guess i'll just copy em, oh the pain
19:38.41vhaarr<PROTECTED>
19:38.44cncfanaticsTalented\Chat.lua: 55: Attempt to call "NewModule" (a nil value)
19:39.13cncfanaticsCartographer_NoteShare.lua:171: Attempt to call "NewModule" (a nil value)
19:39.43CIA-1103cryect * r30964 10BigBrother/: BigBrother - Fixed Externals
19:39.55cncfanaticsAceModuleCore-2.0-30830:330: Attempt to call method "IsModuleActive" (a nil value)
19:41.22CIA-1103funkydude * r30965 10BigWigs/SC/ (Leotheras.lua Morogrim.lua Vashj.lua): BigWigs: SC: use prototype for affliction translations
19:45.12cncfanaticshttp://ace.pastey.net/9268 vhaarr, ckknight, ace crashes
19:45.43CIA-1103rabbit * r30966 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: nubcaek
19:47.27chuckghttp://chuckg.org/dump/2007/fubar_push.jpg
19:47.34chuckgIt takes ~15-20 minutes for it to repush after a zone change.
19:47.37cncfanaticsany of u know why i'm getting crashes ? pretty much can't play atm, no ace addons at all load
19:50.56CIA-1103pb_ee1 * r30967 10RangeRecolor/ (Locale.frFR.lua RangeRecolor.toc):
19:50.56CIA-11RangeRecolor
19:50.57CIA-11- Added the frFR Locale.
19:50.57CIA-11- Updated the version in the .TOC.
19:53.09cncfanaticsgreat, so ace is fucked and noone knows why ? -.-
19:54.18Funkeh`cncfanatics: if ace was fucked up, there would be a lot more complaining here
19:54.33cncfanaticswell, my ace is fucked up and I just updated all my addons :s
19:55.19Chompersdoes anyone know what castcom is?
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19:55.36Chompersi see it on people wherei mouse over their s_raid frame
19:55.37cncfanaticsFunkeh`got a clue why i'm erroring? seems like its AceModuleCore to me
19:56.44art3miswatched hot fuzz last night
19:56.51art3misit's pretty funny
19:57.02art3missame guys who did/starred in Shaun of the Dead
19:57.14JoshBorkecncfanatics: why not just download addons from wowi?
19:57.35cncfanaticsJoshBorke, cuz I i'm used to using WUU ...
19:59.01JoshBorkecncfanatics: i'm sure AceModuleCore doesn't get changed that much, just grep through and find the newest ones and replace with older ones
19:59.30cncfanaticsAceModuleCore-2.0: OnInstanceInit cannot be called twice
19:59.34cncfanaticsi'm guessing thats the culprit
20:04.00kergothJoshBorke: guildbook linking works now, but i've noticed that clicking on it (not in edit mode) to view the item tooltip only works if you click in the first half or so of the link text
20:04.08kergoththats how its behaving here anyway
20:04.13kergothgood stuff though :)
20:05.30JoshBorkekergoth: nothing i can do about that ;-/
20:06.05JoshBorkedid you figure out why it kept linking the bag?  were you clicking the bag and not teh item? :-P
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20:07.06break19oh boy.. someone broke a library
20:07.39break19updated 1 addon, and now several (including that one) arent working. heh
20:08.06Elkanowhcih lib?
20:08.14cncfanaticsbreak19, same here
20:08.24cncfanaticsAceModuleCore ...
20:08.45break19Elkano: not exactly sure.. i'll pasty my errors
20:09.16Elkanocan't see a lib changed lately... (since I updated and all was fine)...
20:09.22Elkanoare you running disembedded?
20:09.33cncfanaticsbreak19, are u getting errors similar to http://ace.pastey.net/9268 ?
20:10.12break19http://ace.pastey.net/9271
20:10.27break19cncfanatics: that, among others
20:10.43CIA-1103funkydude * r30968 10BigWigs/Outland/ (Kazzak.lua Magtheridon.lua):
20:10.43CIA-11BigWigs: Outland:
20:10.44CIA-11- use prototype for affliction
20:10.44CIA-11- don't throttle magtheridon exhaustion events, this should fix the problem with bars not appearing
20:10.45break19Elkano: no. i run embedded
20:11.10Elkanocncfanatics, you too?
20:12.04Elkanothere has been a bunch of small changes to Ace lately so maybe something breaks when updating an older revision in memory
20:12.53cncfanaticsElkano, yes, me too ...
20:13.11Elkanotry and check out Ace2 standalone
20:13.14CyrezIs there a FuBar plugin that can make menus for any addon that uses slash commands? I already have Niagara but I want something that can take care of all my non-Ace2 stuff so I can get the rest of the buttons off the minimap.
20:13.28Elkanoif that does fix it, we know who to blame ^^
20:13.59JoshBorkecncfanatics: what version is AceModuleCore?
20:14.07cncfanaticslemme check
20:14.09Elkano(besides any addons using Ace2 and not having it set as optdep)
20:14.29break19Elkano: one of my addons doesnt really work right in standalone mode :p
20:14.51Ominoushow can an addon not work in stantalone mode?
20:15.33break19Ominous: when it embeds a second addons
20:15.33cncfanaticsName: AceModuleCore-2.0  Revision: $Rev: 30830 $
20:16.02cncfanaticslogging out for the night
20:16.07cncfanaticscya all
20:16.20break19plus.. ya'll should know.. its a PAIN IN THE ASS to switch back and forth. lol
20:16.38break19<- doesnt use wau
20:17.43JoshBorkerevert to anything before 30769 and see if that fixes it
20:19.00CyrezI can DCC a 29793 if you need it.
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20:22.28JoshBorkeckknight: why'd you switch from weak-keys to weak-values for IterateModules?
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20:26.17CIA-1103funkydude * r30969 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (7 files): BigWigs: Karazhan: use the prototype for affliction scanning
20:32.05nymbiaJoshBorke: looks like the keys are the core tables, those'll never have no other references..
20:32.52Chompershrm
20:32.59kergothJoshBorke: no, i clicked like 12 different items in 2 differnt bags when it was acting up, and it always linked the bag, not the item.  that was at around version 0.8 though, after updating it seems fine. *shrug*
20:33.00Chompersattempt 4 on curator
20:34.11nymbiaJoshBorke: it probably was just to prevent that table from keeping the only reference to a trashed core..  with weak values those module list tables will actually go away
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20:46.29CIA-1103cryect * r30970 10BigBrother/ (. BigBrother.toc): BigBrother - Added missing externals
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20:52.20ckknightJoshBorke: because the system changed.
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20:58.26CIA-1103funkydude * r30971 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua:
20:58.26CIA-11BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane:
20:58.26CIA-11- less eager on wiping everything in the flight phase by scanning skeletons
21:02.27kergothman.. this old 60 of mine, shaman, never got first aid
21:02.47Guillotinenot needed quite as much on a healing class. Neither my 70 druid nor my 60 priest have it
21:03.20GagorianRequires no mana, and you can do it even when silenced. Seems useful to me :p
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21:06.13GagorianCan anyone explain why for some people strings from GlobalStrings would be nil?
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21:06.36ckknightbecause addons nil them out
21:06.39ckknightcause they're asses.
21:06.40nymbiaGagorian: probably some horrible addon nilling em
21:06.53CryectI don't know how I would live without bandages on my druid heh
21:06.55nymbiaGagorian: *nudge toward http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3740.msg90204#msg90204 *
21:07.03Cryectso many opportunties when its just better to bandage yourself than spend mana
21:07.45Gagoriannymbia: Just responded :)
21:07.53nymbia:)
21:08.21Gagorianckknight: He says he disabled all other addons and tried.. and still nil. Weird, huh?
21:08.42ckknightwhat global is it?
21:08.46GagorianMANA_COST
21:09.07nymbiaGagorian: what i was thinking of doing was a healing estimator thing for pitbull that makes a transparent 'to be added' bar attached to the health bar of whoever you're casting at
21:09.08CryectSometimes people nil them out to remove error messages but if you have all addons disabled thats strnage
21:09.46renchapnymbia: great idea :)
21:09.51GagorianI could store the string in my addon on startup
21:10.11GagorianMaybe that would help in case something nils it
21:10.41Gagoriannymbia: Sounds cool.
21:10.53nymbia:)
21:11.39GagorianPerhaps the easiest way to get it is through RawNumbers, CheckAction can be used without spellinfo but it returns the value specified in options
21:12.02nymbiayeah, i was looking at RawNumbers, seemed to be what I needed
21:12.04CryectDamn ScrollFrames don't like nil's for names :-p
21:12.17renchaplets try pitbull
21:12.31nymbiarenchap: it's not exactly 'ready' yet ;)
21:12.37renchapyup
21:12.40renchapbut i want to try :)
21:12.43JoshBorkeCryect: FauxScrollFrames don't :-D
21:12.46nymbiarenchap: it works fine but there's no options and stuff like that
21:12.59Finoptions are for the weak!
21:13.01Cryectyeah I should have been more specific and said FauxScrollFrames
21:13.02renchapi want to see how its done
21:13.02CIA-1103rabbit * r30972 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: BigWigs: Attumen: Also warn when druids are cursed.
21:13.40Cryectnymbia: Sure there are options you just have to manually configure the variables!
21:13.52nymbiaCryect: true ;)
21:14.04Finmanually configuring variables is for the weak!
21:14.07Cryectconsole commands are for the weak
21:14.18JoshBorkevariables are for the weak
21:14.20JoshBorkehardcode everything!
21:14.25FinYES!
21:14.26Gagoriannymbia: I'll throw the spell you request through babble so localized spells will work
21:14.27Finthat's the spirit
21:14.28renchaphmm, i dont see any changes with pitbull
21:15.09renchapok, i need sharedmedia
21:15.13renchapseems to be missing
21:15.28ChompersWOO
21:15.37Chompersfinally got curator down :D
21:15.45Cryectcongrats
21:15.49Gagoriannymbia: You want me to parse spellrank from 'rank x' or will you pass the number?
21:16.04nymbiaGagorian: i can get the number
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21:18.03renchapckknight: pitbull doesnt works without sharedmedialib
21:18.27nymbiai would hope not O.o
21:18.33renchap(and the lib isnt includes into StandaloneLibraries too)
21:19.18kergothif you're using standalonelibraries, you're on your own.  dont whine to ck about it
21:19.26kergothif you value your health, anyway
21:19.32renchapi know
21:19.49kergothapparently you dont, if you're addressing ck about an issue that isnt his problem
21:20.14renchapbut there is no dep for sharedmedia in pitbull.toc, and hid mod doesnt works without this lib :)
21:20.25renchapfor the SL problem, i dont know who can add it
21:21.03Arrowmasterdoes pitbull have any externals set?
21:21.08kergothuh?
21:21.15kergothrenchap: SharedMediaLib is in the pitbull optionaldeps.
21:21.17Gagoriannymbia: Should be ready now, starting up wow to check
21:21.20kergothrenchap: as it should be.
21:21.29kergothrenchap: so dont bitch at ck about your own inabiltiy to get your standalones happy
21:22.01renchapyes, but the lib isnt optional i think
21:22.09kergoththe lib is embedded.
21:22.14Arrowmasterthats not how ace mods work
21:22.15kergothembeds are always in optionaldeps.
21:22.22renchaphum, ok
21:22.24kergothbecause if they were required, you wouldnt be able to embed them, now would you?
21:22.26renchapsorry :)
21:25.26nymbiai was gonna add it to !!!StandaloneLibraries then decided that the sheer number of weird batch files was too scary and that i'd probably break something.
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21:26.12CIA-1103gagorian * r30973 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
21:26.12CIA-11DrDamage:
21:26.12CIA-11-Added DrDamage:GetSpellInfo( spellName, spellRank ) API which returns the spell table to use with RawNumbers for example.
21:26.29nymbiawoot, thanks Gagorian  :)
21:26.39Gagoriannp
21:26.47JoshBorkeKaelten: !!!
21:27.09GagorianThe returns of RawNumbers you can probably figure out. The 2nd should be the one you're interested in
21:27.33nymbiayeah
21:28.12GagorianI've been pondering on making the entire return a table for a while.. but it might be more efficient to keep the actionbar values outside the table so actionbar updates don't need table calls.
21:28.14JoshBorkekilling me with this xml :-(
21:28.15Gagorian*shrugs*
21:29.57CIA-1103funkydude * r30974 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Maulgar: add wipemobs
21:30.33CIA-1103grayhoof * r30975 10sct/ (localization.kr.lua sct.lua sct_event_config.lua): sct: Fixed minor bugs in event config. Added Kor local changes.
21:31.05Fisker-sky's the limit
21:31.05Fisker-:O
21:31.14CIA-1103grayhoof * r30976 10sct_options/localization.kr.lua: sct_options: Added Kor local changes.
21:31.27CIA-1103grayhoof * r30977 10sctd_options/localization.kr.lua: sctd_options: Added Kor local changes.
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21:33.18CIA-1103zuno * r30978 10UnitActionBars/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
21:33.18CIA-11UnitActionBars:
21:33.18CIA-11- Added default support for unnamed frames, and frames that have no matching frame group.
21:33.55CIA-1103zuno * r30979 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
21:33.55CIA-11UnitActionBars:
21:33.56CIA-11- Updated toc revision
21:34.43CIA-1103zuno * r30980 10uab_PerlClassicFrames/uab_PerlClassicFrames.lua:
21:34.44CIA-11uab_PerlClassicFrames:
21:34.44CIA-11- Updates to sync with framegroup API changes to support frames that have no matching frame group.
21:34.59CIA-1103zuno * r30981 10uab_oRA2Frames/uab_oRA2Frames.lua:
21:34.59CIA-11uab_oRA2Frames:
21:34.59CIA-11- Updates to sync with framegroup API changes to support frames that have no matching frame group.
21:35.09CIA-1103zuno * r30982 10uab_IceHUD/uab_IceHUD.lua:
21:35.09CIA-11uab_IceHUD:
21:35.09CIA-11- Updates to sync with framegroup API changes to support frames that have no matching frame group.
21:36.20CIA-1103ckknight * r30983 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (SharedMediaLib/ filelist.wau): !!!StandaloneLibraries - added SharedMediaLib
21:36.50renchapthx ckknight :)
21:37.06ckknightthat was not my responsibility, you should know.
21:37.32nymbiawhich return of UnitClass() is localized, the first one?
21:37.40ckknightyea
21:37.57ckknightsecond is allcaps English
21:38.11nymbiathanks :)
21:38.17GagorianAmazing to get unlocalized returns!
21:38.51Elkanockknight, don't blame me, I don't code for users ;)
21:39.06ckknightur dum
21:39.10ckknight:-P
21:41.15break19Elkano: switching to embeds does indeed fix it
21:41.36BrunersGruul on 39%
21:41.52Brunersi really want to nail that fucker
21:42.02Elkanobreak19, disembedded, not embedded ^^
21:42.11break19yea that
21:42.19break19switching to non-embeds fixes it
21:42.42Elkanobut that means your error is caused by a version conflict in maybe ace so blame ckknight for his changes this week ;)
21:42.57break19I know better than to blame ck for ANYTHING. lol
21:43.29ckknightthe problem stems with your deep-seated sexual issues
21:43.30Elkanodid you disembed all libs or only install Ace2 standalone?
21:43.57break19whats the difference?
21:44.08CIA-1103jayrox * r30984 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc): FuBar_VampwatchFu: more stringy stuff
21:44.15break19every addon I had, I reinstalled using no-ext, and installed the standalone libs
21:44.27Elkanowell, if you only installed ace2 standalone and that fixed it, it was caused by ace2.
21:44.52Elkanook, than it could have also been another addon though the erros looked like ace2 for me
21:45.35Elkanocl, if you want to have a look: http://ace.pastey.net/9271
21:45.50break19Elkano: i use *mostly* ace2 stuff.. but have been using the same ones for a while with no errors (other than a nil error in roguetimerfu)
21:46.57ckknightbreak19: you totally didn't understand what Elkano was saying
21:47.12break19ckknight: obviously. lol
21:47.34Elkanowell, maybe you have been unlucky and catched a broken version of AceModuleCore... I think WAU wont update addons when only their externals changed so the broken version would have sticked around until the adodn itself was updated
21:47.36break19break it down for me. I'm just a dumb ol' redneck truck driver.
21:47.55break19Elkano: I dont (and cant) use wau
21:48.17Elkanohmm... so how do you update your addons? svn?
21:48.45break19wuu.vagabonds.info
21:48.53Elkanothen it should have been fixed if you would have done a full update since the externals would have been pushed to the same revision
21:49.30break19i update via .zips using the WUU ui updater.. not SVN.
21:49.32Elkanolink doesn't work for me :(
21:49.49break19Elkano: try wuu.vagabond.info then
21:49.57renchapbreak19: wuu works as wau
21:50.02renchapthats the same problem
21:50.22break19no, the first one is right.. it just appears to be down at the moment
21:50.45Elkanowell, as nice the embedded stuff is, running disembedded will still be less likely to fail ^^
21:50.48renchapone of your embedded copies of ace2 is broken
21:51.49CIA-1103funkydude * r30985 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen: change curse warning
21:52.06break19Elkano: true, but in order to use non-embedded, I either have to use svn, or use WUU, which is HORRIBLY slow.
21:52.24break19macaceupdater doesnt (yet) support no-ext
21:53.02|Kev|hrmm?
21:53.04|Kev|oh, yes
21:53.18Elkanowell, let's massrape it's coder to include that stuff ;)
21:53.20|Kev|I need to do that
21:53.32break19Elkano: you first.. there he is
21:53.33break19heh
21:53.39|Kev|but as I'm not playing wow atm, my inclination is low to code mau
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21:55.18break19I *really* need to learn to use xcode heh
21:55.33break19as well as, brush up on my C
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21:55.45|Kev|objective C's a little different to C
21:55.53|Kev|in fact, it's less like C than Java is ;)
21:56.13break19no wonder it looks like gobbedly gook to me. heh
21:56.14|Kev|objective C's C + smalltalk
21:56.30break19*cry*
21:56.34Elkanowell, I'll be leaving for bed now... so long guys :)
21:56.39|Kev|nn Elk
21:56.41break19nite elk
21:57.02Elkano(reminds me again what a strange place inet can be ;) )
21:57.03Fisker-i love you Elkano
21:57.27ElkanoFisker-, hmm... well... I love me too... ;)
21:57.42Fisker-yay
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22:01.58Fisker-Ace community
22:02.01Fisker-TONIGHT WE DINE
22:02.04Fisker-IN CAKETOWN
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22:02.38kergothmm cake
22:03.52Fisker-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k
22:05.08Chompersdoes anyone know if the mobs after curator are linked to him?
22:05.25Chomperswill they despawn after the curators down?
22:07.24chuckgThey are not.
22:07.29break19Fisker-: BRUSH YOUR TEETH
22:07.29chuckgThey're linked to Aran.
22:07.47Fisker-ok :(
22:07.53chuckgJust the mobs in his room + the ones leading up to it from the outdoor stairwell area.
22:08.22art3miseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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22:08.58art3misgo see tmnt it's great
22:09.01art3misand hot fuzz
22:09.34chuckgOh hot fuzz hit the states?
22:09.38chuckgMaybe I can get a good dvdscr then!
22:09.49chuckgI mean.
22:09.52art3misheh nope
22:09.52chuckgLegally purchase a ticket.
22:10.00art3misthere's a telecine out though thats pretty decent
22:10.17art3misit does to cop movies what shaun of the dead did to zombie movies
22:10.37chuckgI realize what it's about :)
22:10.47chuckgBeen waiting for it for ~4-5 mo's.
22:10.50art3misno i mean its THAT funny
22:10.59chuckgI have no doubt it will be.
22:11.00art3misgo leech it
22:11.04art3misit's on usenet
22:11.17chuckgI don't do telesyncs/cam's.
22:11.22chuckgRuins any movie.
22:11.38art3misactually its good
22:11.39art3misnot shitty cam quality and decent audio
22:11.54art3mistelecine != telesync
22:12.07art3mistelecine is a direct audio feed from the projector room
22:12.25art3misand depending on the projector direct video
22:12.52art3miswhat really pisses me off about the scene is that somewhoe someone can take a dvd and rip it to 2gigs of xvid and it's STILL pixelated
22:13.01art3missomehow
22:13.03Fisker-nah
22:13.17Fisker-Isn't telecine from the projector itself?
22:13.22art3misthere are some pretty clueless people in the scene
22:13.29art3mistechnically yes
22:13.44art3misit uses the feed outs from the projector
22:13.55art3missome proj's dont have video out though
22:14.07art3misthe newer ones do though
22:14.14art3misbut they all have audio out
22:14.51Fisker-Anyways i'm sleepy
22:14.53Fisker-so good night
22:14.54chuckghttp://www.vcdquality.com/index.php?genre=1&searchstring=hot+fuzz&x=0&y=0
22:14.59chuckgDoesn't even list a telecine.
22:15.13art3misoh my bad
22:15.18art3misit's the bottom cam
22:15.21art3misthats the copy i have
22:15.28art3misbut its not a crappy copy
22:15.39art3misif yer impatient get it ;P
22:15.45art3misif you can wait then dont
22:15.56art3misbut its definately watchable
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22:18.01kergothwhats a quick spot to farm wool?
22:18.09kergothmy old 61 shammy doesnt have first aid
22:18.13kergothso now i need like 125 wool
22:18.16kergothheh
22:18.21Chienstockades? :P
22:18.36kergothhorde :P  was thinking maybe the humanoids in the southern barrens
22:18.38Brunersthink ashenvale is a got spot
22:18.53kergothwhere in ashenvale?
22:19.02kergothnot the satyrs i hope, that curse is the most annoying in the game i swear
22:19.12Brunersnear the moonwell iirc
22:19.15Chienneg
22:19.22Brunersthe felpaw lookalikes
22:19.25kergothah
22:19.27Chienthe most annoying is the 75% less magic dmg curse
22:19.38Chienfrom the guys at the black temple :(
22:20.00kergothow
22:20.02Chienwell, its a magic effect anyway
22:20.24Kirkburn|afkAny Wii owners about? My number is 6685 6650 2343 4699
22:20.33Chienim all like arrggghhhhh....staff skill 100, staff skill 101
22:20.34Chien:P
22:20.41art3misfenris isle in silverpimne
22:20.49art3miseasiest place to get wool
22:22.27kergothwonder if my 67 rogue or my 43 hunter would farm it faster. the rogue would certainly kill em faster, but the hunter can take 2 at once and has aspect of the cheetah
22:25.33CIA-1103gagorian * r30986 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc):
22:25.33CIA-11DrDamage:
22:25.33CIA-11-Displayed spell damage coefficient for seed of corruption now takes into account the relative loss of coefficient lost due to it exploding after a few ticks
22:26.31art3miswell
22:26.32art3misi can farm it with sw:pain
22:26.49art3misso if you've got a single hit with a low cooldown that dopes 1400 or so you're good
22:26.59art3misdopes == does
22:27.33art3misof course most of he time i just sw:pain then and gather up a lot of em ;P
22:27.44kergothhehe
22:27.56art3mismy pain at 70 is about 3300 total damage
22:28.00art3misit's kind of funny
22:28.19markus_art3mis, SW:D would kill em too if u have enough spelldmg :P
22:28.35art3misoh sorry yeah thats what i meant the first time i said pain
22:28.40ArrowmasterGagorian: im noticing the corruption damage shown by DrDamage seems to be off from how much its really doing
22:28.51markus_but SW:Ping tons of mobs is fun too :P
22:29.03markus_see em all running behind you and diein slowly ;)
22:29.06art3mishehe yeah pw:shield and let them die at your feet ;P
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22:32.02GagorianArrowmaster: max rank?
22:32.13Arrowmasteryes
22:32.26Gagorianwith or without empowered corruption?
22:32.59Arrowmasterwith
22:33.06Arrowmasterand shadow mastery
22:33.09Arrowmasterand contagion
22:33.37Gagorianticks correct for me, don't have contagion though
22:33.41GagorianIs it too high or too low?
22:34.19Arrowmasterim seeing real damage of 2549-2550 (with 2549 seeming more common) but DrDmage says 2560-2561
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22:35.28Arrowmasterim not sure but i seem to recall a thread on the EJ forums that determined that % stuff from talents was additive and % stuff from buff/debuffs was multiplicitive, maybe that has something to do with it
22:35.53Gagorianwell, nearly every single talent in the game is multiplicative
22:36.18Gagoriancontagion.. could theoretically be additive
22:37.08Arrowmasterwell for the number crunching ive 1016 +shadow and full affliction spec and only seeing 2549-2550 on unbuffed mobs
22:38.45Arrowmasterah ha
22:39.57Gagorianwell
22:40.01Gagorianaccording to that it's additive
22:40.09Gagoriangg blizzard
22:40.17Arrowmaster(1016*1.29+906)*1.155 = 2560.2192 but (1016*1.29+906)*1.15 = 2549.136
22:40.48break19ack, math
22:40.55GagorianArrowmaster: yup
22:41.14CIA-1103gagorian * r30987 10DrDamage/Data/Warlock.lua:
22:41.14CIA-11DrDamage:
22:41.14CIA-11-Contagion is additive.
22:41.31Arrowmasterearlyer when i was trying to use the base tooltip damage of 900 pretalents i kept getting stuff completely off
22:42.34Gagoriantooltips are utter shit
22:42.43Gagorianwhy add anything when it's still off my millions
22:43.17Jenshttp://www.intternetti.net/~jiri/motivation/rpg/lootwhore.jpg
22:43.26GagorianAffliction seems shafted for multipliers
22:43.45GagorianImproved CoA and Contagion are then additive
22:44.21BibiJens : i prefer this one http://www.mmo-champion.com/boubouille/carebear.jpg
22:44.25JensI PvE :(
22:44.31Arrowmasterill try to find the EJ thread that had a bunch of testing for additive vs multiplitive
22:44.31Bibiso do i ^^
22:44.41JensI never understood the carebear term I think, but I was afraid to ask...
22:45.05break19Jens: wont even fight back..
22:45.24JensAm I carebearing when I heal random noobs, about to get themselves killed?
22:45.30break19yes
22:45.34JensDrive-by buffing?
22:45.37GagorianArrowmaster: Well, at least the demonology stuff is multiplicative
22:45.47break19Jens: again, yes
22:45.50Jens:(
22:45.53GagorianSo is most mage stuff it seems, and so on
22:45.58ArrowmasterGagorian: you mean demonic sac?
22:46.04GagorianYar or MD
22:46.07break19Jens: so you're a carebear.. its not necessarily a bad thing. :)
22:46.09Arrowmasterthose are buffs
22:46.17break19<- hybrid
22:46.25GagorianHmm, well yeah, in that sense
22:46.32JensWell, I even it out with ganking :P
22:46.42break19depends on my mood.. there are times when I feel like being everybody's friend.. and times I do that. heh
22:46.46Arrowmasterlike i said earlyer, talents additive, buffs/debuffs multiplicitve
22:46.52break19Jens: in that case, you're a hybrid also :p
22:46.56Arrowmastergod i hate trying to spell that word
22:47.11break19which, earlier?
22:47.21Arrowmasterno multiplitive
22:47.27Jens"*ive"
22:47.32break19multiplicitive
22:47.53art3misya know what makes carebearing in pve content alright?
22:47.54break19even a dumb ole redneck trucker like me can spell that..
22:47.56GagorianArrowmaster: Well, for example as I recall improved chain heal and purification are multiplicative too
22:48.11art3mis"accidently" mc'ing pvp flagged people into the lava
22:48.25art3misor mc drowning humans outside stormwind
22:48.31art3misaccidently of course
22:48.54art3misit's one thing to attack someone
22:49.07JensShadowmelding in Blackrock == pwnt
22:49.08art3misit's quite another to forcefully hold thier head under until they don't struggle anymore
22:50.17GagorianAnd according to tests playing with fire and fire power = multiplicative.. At least the values have matched, on the other hand it wont show a huge difference
22:50.23GagorianEither way
22:51.11GagorianThen again Gift of Nature and Improved Rejuvenation is additive.
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22:52.12art3mishehe i was bombing a shadlowmelded NE at haala the otehr day
22:52.19art3miscuz he forgot he had his pet out ;P
22:52.30art3misa non combat pet
22:52.45art3misthose are my fav bg rogues
22:52.53art3misthat run around with a rabbit following them
22:53.10Cryectyeah
22:53.24art3mis"no bunny why didnt yopu hide!!"
22:53.32art3misarrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhh
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22:55.41GagorianArrowmaster: Found it?
22:57.26art3mishttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/barry2003/images/noob.gif
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23:07.40art3mis<Lonksys> wikipedia makes my brain bigger but doesn't make be any smarter
23:08.43CyrezI keep learning stuff but I think older bits of knowledge are leaking out the back.
23:08.59art3mishehe like homer
23:09.06art3misoh now i frgot how to make bacon!
23:11.47AmadeoConsult Tekkub
23:11.51*** part/#wowace [BiS]Pkekyo|aw (n=bsm89mod@062016163228.customer.alfanett.no)
23:12.02CyrezLike, I can't remember meeting one of my best Internet friends. Or how long I've known her.
23:14.17art3misis she cute and puts out?
23:14.25art3miscuz if so then it doesnt much matter ;P
23:15.09Cyrez:-P
23:15.10JoshBorkedoes the first part really count?
23:15.14AmadeoEveryone puts out, just have to know how to get them to :P
23:15.59Brunerswhat addon can i use instead of enchantrix?
23:16.00art3misyeah ugly chicks always put out, it's the cute part thats memorable ;P
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23:16.13art3misfor de predicts?
23:16.18Brunersyep
23:16.51art3misGFW_DisenchantPredictor
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23:17.10art3misit just gives you guesstimates though
23:17.12Brunersthere's no ace based ones?
23:17.21art3misunlike enchant that actually logs and gives percent
23:17.26art3misnope don't hink so
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23:17.51CyrezI'm waiting for a private webcam show from this other girl I know. And all I had to do was log on her WoW account and watch a couple auctions for her so she could go to bed. And, yes, she's more than worth it. ;)
23:18.43CyrezShe appreciated my practically limitless supply of patience.
23:19.17art3misand the fact she merely  has to say jump and you ask how high and what direction?
23:19.29art3misi bet thats a big part of it ;)
23:20.03CyrezNo, it's not like that.
23:20.24CyrezI agreed to help her because I stay up that late anyway and had nothing better to do.
23:20.31Chompersplayer being played?
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23:20.34CyrezTHEN she tells me if she wins both I get a show.
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23:20.53art3misdid you then mail all eghr stuff to your alt?
23:20.56art3misher
23:21.04art3misand elave her char naked and broke?
23:21.14CyrezActually, I used my alt to give her even more stuff.
23:21.23CyrezSo I could earn some extra credit, lol.
23:21.32CyrezAnd it worked.
23:21.48Chompersyou're joking, right?
23:21.59CyrezNo, I'm dead serious. :-P
23:22.11chuckgDid you mail your manhood too?
23:22.14chuckgDon't need that anymore.
23:22.48CyrezNo, once again, it's not like that.
23:23.00CyrezShe got hooked on me in a sense.
23:23.03art3misif you dont use fraps to capture and post the "webshow" we'll all be very disappointed in you
23:23.14art3misnot really
23:23.21Chomperswe require proof, in picture form
23:23.24CyrezShe usually excels at that but I could match her blow for blow without even trying.
23:23.31art3misif YOU give HER stuff and she gives nothing in return, it's not HER thats hooked ;P
23:23.44CyrezI don't use Fraps. Got something else.
23:23.57CyrezI've already seen most of her.
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23:24.01CyrezMore than once.
23:24.11SymianWow. This is a very creepy conversation.
23:24.15art3mislaugh
23:24.17Brunersis it your sister?
23:24.28CyrezWe're not at all related.
23:24.29chuckgGIRLS
23:24.41knarf-epeen!
23:24.42CyrezShe's a very complicated woman.
23:24.44art3misno pic no proof ;P{
23:24.47chuckgThat question was a reference to a European commericla.
23:24.55chuckgNot the fact that you may or may not be a hillbilly.
23:24.59CyrezBut still saner than my ex because I can at least make sense of her way of thinking.
23:25.03JoshBorkela di da
23:25.14Chompersthey have computers?
23:26.43art3miseuropeans or hillbillys?
23:26.49Chompersboth
23:26.52art3misnope
23:27.03trhCyrez: if you can make sense of a girls thinking you're either gay, or she isn't a woman.. it's that easy
23:27.07Chomperseuropeans use windmills...right?
23:27.19art3misthem thar new fangled gadgits iz too complicatorixing to be useded
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23:28.24CyrezI'm not gay but I do understand her.
23:28.31trhthe she isn't a she :)
23:28.33trhthen
23:28.37art3misthats like "im not gay but my boyfriend is"
23:28.51CyrezOh, she's definately female.
23:29.42art3mispost pic or you're lying ;)
23:30.12CyrezNah, I'd rather not reveal her identity without asking her.
23:30.14art3misand you dont ahve to be gay to understand women
23:30.17CyrezI physically mailed her the pre-BC patch, though.
23:30.24CyrezBecause she was stuck un dial-up.
23:30.29art3misyou start at the "they're crazy point" and work backwards from there
23:30.33CyrezAnd I watched her open the package.
23:30.48SymianVery very creepy conversation.
23:30.48trhart3mis: ok.. it works too if 'she' is that male-type ;)
23:31.54CyrezOh, she's crazy.
23:32.01art3misheh tr
23:32.03CyrezBut it's a crazy I could understand. ^^
23:32.13art3misi have no male friends
23:32.17art3miscan't stand them
23:32.47CyrezI have a lot of female friends.
23:32.50art3misand ive been called a manipulative bitch by women
23:32.55CyrezI think it's because I listen.
23:32.56art3misno not a lot
23:32.58art3misONLY
23:33.18art3misi dont get along with males in person for longer than 45mins
23:33.20chuckgDid I join #myfirstgirlfriend by mistake?
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23:33.25art3misunless they have something i want
23:33.30art3misyes
23:33.37art3mischuckg: a/s/l
23:33.51Chompers11/f/iceland
23:33.55Chompersyeah baby
23:33.59art3missweet!
23:34.04art3misdo you know bjork?
23:34.16Chompersthats my father
23:34.16CyrezI'm not a people person in general.
23:34.23Chompersuhm, or my mother
23:34.25Chomperseven
23:34.30art3mishehe the man in the bathroom told me that bjork has a schlong
23:34.36Chomperscan never tell over here in iceland
23:34.51art3miswhat man beevis?
23:35.01art3mishe he heheh you know the man in the mirror
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23:35.36CyrezEver seen Foreign Exchange?
23:36.01renchapGagorian: i have a bug with drdamage and frFR client
23:36.05CyrezI can't find that episode anywhere online.
23:36.12CyrezBut it's my favorite of all time.
23:36.54art3misof beevis and butthead?
23:36.57Gagorianrenchap: Tell me :>
23:36.58CyrezYeah.
23:37.05art3misi didnt know they had episode names
23:37.21art3mis;)
23:37.21renchaphttp://ace.pastey.net/9280
23:37.53CyrezWell, there's this exchange student that makes friends with them and they go to the mall at one point and start doing loogies and sucking them back up.
23:38.07Gagorianffs same error! Something nils out your global MANA_COST
23:38.10CyrezHe does one and soaks, like, 5-6 people then sucks it back up.
23:38.57renchapcan i do something to help you ?
23:39.04Gagorianrenchap: Try /print MANA_COST
23:39.46renchap"Mana\194\160: %d"
23:40.17Gagorianhmmm
23:43.40Gagorianrenchap: Have mana calculations worked for you?
23:43.47GagorianDamage/healing per mana etc
23:43.59renchapyup
23:44.13GagorianWhat version?
23:44.38renchaplatest
23:44.49renchapjust installer the addon to test it
23:44.54renchap*installed
23:45.16GagorianUmm.. It shouldn't work if it errors :p
23:45.43GagorianDPM/HPM, Damage until Oom, casts left shouldn't be visible
23:46.18renchapit is displayed for both heals and damages
23:46.40Gagorianumm.. ok then it works kind of
23:46.44GagorianWhen does it error?
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23:48.22renchapi dont know
23:48.42renchapit occurs 20 times, but cant do it again
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23:48.47GagorianNot on startup?
23:49.01renchap11 on startup, and 20 now
23:49.54renchapiam trying a reload ui
23:50.59renchapno more errors
23:51.22Gagorianare you using casts left display on actionbar?
23:52.04renchaphum... sorry, i dont understand the question ^^
23:52.13GagorianOk then you probably aren't.
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23:52.27GagorianTry to see what causes the errors.. would be helpful in figuring out what's wrong
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23:54.15renchapseems to be when you first launch wow with the addon
23:54.23renchapcant have the errors again
23:58.01ArrowmasterGagorian: just noticed you do local Mana_Cost = MANA_COST, you might not want to do that since something could change the value of MANA_COST and the tooltips would display different
23:58.35Amadeo2 minutes until Planet Earth on Discovery - I recommend watching :)
23:58.38GagorianMANA_COST is the global string for mana in the tooltip
23:58.46Gagorian"%d Mana"
23:59.08GagorianWhy would anything change it? :P
23:59.08Arrowmasteryeah and i just did /script MANA_COST = "%d Mana."
23:59.24ArrowmasterSWStats changes some global strings or used to
23:59.32chuckgI think it still does.
23:59.42Gagorianwell, that's pretty shit coding then
23:59.44Gagorian:X

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