00:00.47 | rubik | no way to bind hotkeys to closetgnome? (other than /script on macro buttons)? |
00:01.03 | vhaarr | rubik: Open then menu. |
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00:02.00 | rubik | duh++.. thx |
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00:03.53 | rubik | swapmagic doesn't really show much info.. like.. item stats.. just shows me item name on alt-hover |
00:04.02 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: You can toggle item stats on |
00:05.04 | rubik | wow.. so you can.. i am teh suck today, sorry |
00:05.52 | vhaarr | rubik: Don't forget to look at the ClosetGnome 3rd party addons. |
00:06.05 | vhaarr | like banker, mount, etc |
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00:08.05 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30847 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull-Aura - now positions auras properly. bugfixing. |
00:08.37 | Ominous_ | ckknight: in the frame setup table for auras is width a valid field as well as height? |
00:09.04 | ckknight | Ominous_: yes, theoretically, but that's handled by the setpoint |
00:09.29 | Ominous_ | yea but i want to anchor the frame to the right of the target frame :) |
00:09.55 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, I'm out. Later, folks. |
00:09.59 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30848 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull-Aura - remove debug line |
00:10.17 | ckknight | Ominous_: go ahead |
00:10.23 | ckknight | Ominous_: change the point1 to attach to the right |
00:10.25 | ckknight | and set the width |
00:10.29 | Ominous_ | yea |
00:10.30 | Ominous_ | k |
00:10.34 | ckknight | buffs will be on the left, debuffs on the right |
00:10.35 | ckknight | currently |
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00:12.45 | Tem | *sigh* |
00:12.49 | Tem | this channel is still on my auto join |
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00:15.28 | Amadeo | Why is that a bad thing? :P |
00:15.43 | ckknight | Amadeo: what are you referring to? |
00:15.49 | Amadeo | Tem |
00:16.14 | ckknight | oh |
00:16.18 | ckknight | he no longer likes us |
00:16.21 | Amadeo | :( |
00:16.51 | JJSheets | any particular reason? |
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00:18.11 | vhaarr | you should ask him |
00:18.41 | ckknight | JJSheets: as far as I can tell, when I was talking with cladhaire about AceOptions, something came up irl so I said that I had something that actually matters to attend to, and he had a hissy fit and told me to get out of the community |
00:18.47 | ckknight | roughly. |
00:19.15 | JJSheets | ah. drama. good riddance then. RL takes precedence I'd think. |
00:19.38 | ckknight | yea, I had a date to go on |
00:19.44 | ckknight | who is now my current gf |
00:19.50 | ckknight | and might I say, hott |
00:19.53 | Amadeo | egos tend to clash in the world of code! |
00:19.53 | JJSheets | gratz :) |
00:19.54 | Gnarfoz | #wowi-lounge and #wowace should be combined into #drama ;P |
00:20.01 | haste | haha |
00:20.03 | haste | I agree |
00:20.12 | ckknight | doesn't play WoW though, so we'll see how it goes |
00:20.30 | ckknight | I haven't even directly competed with Tem... as far as I know |
00:20.44 | ckknight | I mean, frankly, I'd understand if ag` was pissed at me for trying to steal his thunder |
00:20.51 | ckknight | but I know he's not |
00:20.56 | ckknight | and the thunder is just so cool. |
00:20.59 | ckknight | boom! |
00:21.03 | JJSheets | lol |
00:21.07 | nymbia | rofl |
00:21.23 | ckknight | ;-) |
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00:25.24 | Prophh | any way or another mod that will show Mana Bars in grid/perfectraid? need something that shows mana and hp..beside using unitframes for raids.. |
00:25.46 | ckknight | Grid is a unitframes addon |
00:26.19 | ckknight | note: I kinda want PitBull to have all the features of Grid/PerfectRaid/etc. eventually |
00:26.25 | ckknight | as well as still being freaky efficient |
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00:31.37 | chuckg | Got any screenshots yet? |
00:31.50 | Ominous | ill tell u its purdy :D |
00:32.34 | ckknight | it's shiny |
00:33.26 | chuckg | That's descriptive and helpful. |
00:33.34 | chuckg | It'll have a simple way of adding new layouts, I hope. |
00:34.09 | ckknight | you can add em now |
00:34.16 | ckknight | it's near the top of PitBull.lua |
00:35.47 | Prophh | any ss on pitbull? |
00:36.05 | ckknight | it looks like agUF |
00:37.07 | Prophh | is it on wowace.com/files? |
00:37.20 | ckknight | yea |
00:37.22 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30849 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua Class/Class.lua): |
00:37.22 | CIA-11 | PitBull-Aura - fix application text |
00:37.22 | CIA-11 | PitBull-Class - changed to use [smartclass] instead of [class], which should show creature types. |
00:38.41 | CIA-11 | 03solor * r30850 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua: FuBar_TopScoreFu: add Magtheridon to list of vulnerable bosses |
00:38.43 | chuckg | Be sure to get all the smarty tags that agUF has. |
00:38.58 | chuckg | [raidgroup] always get overlooked! |
00:39.42 | ckknight | I stole em all. |
00:39.53 | ckknight | except the ones that started with ag |
00:40.12 | chuckg | Give me a selling points besides 'freaky efficient'. |
00:40.15 | chuckg | :) |
00:40.41 | chuckg | agUF is pretty good, I think! |
00:40.41 | knarf- | aguf is bugging latley :) |
00:40.50 | chuckg | It's been kosher for me. |
00:40.59 | Ominous | ckknight: its purdy now :), just need a setting for frame height so the mana bars can be hidden and scale |
00:41.01 | chuckg | In fact the one error I thought was ag was my own addons. |
00:41.16 | Prophh | hmm interested in taking a look at pitbull |
00:41.21 | Prophh | screenshots? |
00:41.31 | ckknight | Ominous: look through the code and change the :SetHeight(50) |
00:41.44 | ckknight | Ominous: if you want the mana bars to hide, put hidden = true |
00:41.52 | ckknight | and then change how the health is positioned |
00:42.18 | Ominous | yea but i dont want eveyrone done and the set height is global isnt it |
00:42.45 | ckknight | yea |
00:42.46 | ckknight | for now |
00:43.41 | Ominous | frame:SetHeight(unit == "targettarget" and 25 or 50) should work ? |
00:45.10 | Ominous | dw, it does |
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00:48.12 | ckknight | yea, it would |
00:49.38 | Ominous | well im off to bed |
00:49.47 | Ominous | damn england and friends fucking arrangements up |
00:49.54 | NeoTron | so one of the things that make me keep coming back to wow over other MMO's... |
00:50.03 | ckknight | the sexings? |
00:50.04 | NeoTron | is how fricking dorky people walking/running often look |
00:50.20 | NeoTron | how hard is it really to make animations that don't look horribly bad? |
00:50.32 | Amadeo | I think walking is worse than running on most chars |
00:50.56 | NeoTron | I mean WoW isn't exactly ground breaking visually but still looks more "natural" |
00:51.18 | NeoTron | I wonder if, in part, it's because the graphics is cartoonish? The closer to "real life" you make something, the more you notice the flaws |
00:52.21 | NightHawkTheSane | arguably so. It's much easier to accept something seemingly abnormal the further it is from reality. I suppose that's why one of the dumbest run/walk animations is the human male. :P |
00:52.48 | NeoTron | heh |
00:53.25 | Amadeo | You think so? I think the worst walking is NE Male, but maybe because I have one |
00:53.43 | Amadeo | they kind of waddle...with stick-up-the-ass eloquence |
00:53.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont know, there are few things gayer (no offense) than a human male running |
00:54.56 | NeoTron | http://kotaku.com/gaming/folding%40home/ps3-dominates-foldinghome-246543.php |
00:55.46 | NeoTron | the GPU numbers are impressive but the PS3 ones aren't exactly shabby either... |
00:56.04 | NeoTron | but on average a GPU is 2x as powerful as a PS3 |
00:56.04 | NeoTron | per "cpu" |
00:56.20 | Amadeo | how many PS3's are there doing it? |
00:56.30 | NeoTron | second / third columns |
00:56.38 | NeoTron | about 10-11k it seems |
00:56.38 | Amadeo | oh I see |
00:56.55 | Amadeo | but does that count as one PS3, or are they counting each Cell? :P |
00:57.01 | NeoTron | heh |
00:57.05 | NeoTron | I suspect it's one per PS3 |
00:57.11 | Amadeo | hehe |
01:00.44 | NeoTron | http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats ah more up to date |
01:01.05 | NeoTron | ps3's are now significantly higher (403 TFLOPS with 16-17k cpus) |
01:01.22 | Amadeo | that's impressive |
01:01.39 | Amadeo | I have to ask though |
01:01.47 | Amadeo | Has folding@home discovered anything? |
01:02.03 | NeoTron | how fast A GPU is vs a PS3 vs a PC? |
01:02.21 | Amadeo | hehe |
01:02.26 | Amadeo | I mean as far as the folding goes |
01:02.29 | Stephmw | Amadeo: yeah... "You too could be Gladibartfast! And the Answer is 41!!" |
01:02.42 | Stephmw | ... not 42 :) |
01:03.43 | Amadeo | :P |
01:03.45 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30851 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua WatchdogTags.lua): |
01:03.45 | CIA-11 | PitBull - WatchdogTags no longer check events for wacky frames |
01:03.45 | CIA-11 | - fix frame recycling bug. |
01:03.50 | NeoTron | http://folding.stanford.edu/faq.html |
01:04.06 | NeoTron | http://folding.stanford.edu/faq.html#project.done even |
01:05.10 | Amadeo | I've always wondered why they don't do distributed computing for more things |
01:05.17 | Amadeo | such as compiling video |
01:07.03 | NeoTron | hmm |
01:07.31 | NeoTron | must be a way to make this into a business |
01:07.39 | NeoTron | so you pay ppl for cpu time and sell it for more than the cost |
01:07.52 | NeoTron | so not just "Greater good" but "make some money of my idle time" |
01:08.18 | Amadeo | hehe |
01:09.12 | Amadeo | make a gaming console and force people into it when they pay for your service :P |
01:09.24 | Amadeo | then using PS3's for it isn't optional! |
01:10.38 | NeoTron | heh |
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01:40.27 | Eternally777 | Do functions get eaten by the garbage collector like everything else except frames? |
01:41.17 | kergoth | yes, functions are handled by the garbage collector |
01:41.53 | kergoth | anyone have a good link about boolean algebra? never really learned much about it, its a weak point for me |
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01:46.49 | NightHawkTheSane | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_algebra |
01:46.50 | Hjalte | Eternally777: I'm having some problems with the new mount system in Sacredbuff :/ |
01:46.52 | Micron_WoW | anything in particular you need a reference for kergoth? |
01:47.21 | Micron_WoW | wikipedia has a nice table of the basic rules if that's enough for you |
01:50.28 | Fin | [00:21:28] <@Kalroth> awww |
01:50.28 | Fin | oops |
01:50.29 | Fin | didn't mean to paste that |
01:52.05 | Eternally777 | Hjalte, what new mount system in SacredBuff? |
01:52.09 | Eternally777 | :-P |
01:52.18 | Eternally777 | Yeah that's a work in progress. |
01:52.32 | Eternally777 | I intend to commit a fix within the hour actually. |
01:52.51 | Hjalte | Eternally777: I can't get any mount icon to show and if i dont go and set the settings at each new wow start, the button does nothing :) |
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01:55.29 | Symian | Can the value created through CreateFrame be passed through functions? Because I seem to have trouble doing that and I can't figure out why. I'm getting the error "attempt to index local 'frame' (a boolean value)" |
01:55.29 | Eternally777 | Hjalte, yeah, to be completely honest, there's really only half of a mount system on the SVN at the moment. That's why you're having problems :) I wanted to commit to help me keep track of my changes. |
01:55.29 | Symian | Where 'frame' is the name of the argument-passed frame. |
01:55.40 | Eternally777 | Symian, pastey your code :) |
01:55.44 | Symian | Roger. |
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01:55.51 | haste | then you're passing the name and no the frame table |
01:56.07 | Hjalte | Eternally777: Also, are you going to make it possible to select whether you want eg Inner Focus or Lightwell shown? |
01:57.35 | Symian | The relevant exceprt: http://ace.pastey.net/9104 |
01:57.40 | Symian | excerpt* |
01:58.12 | Symian | In that example, the error occurs on line 16 (or equally, 13) |
01:58.45 | Eternally777 | Hjalte, that's on the to-do list |
01:58.45 | Symian | er s/16/15/ |
01:59.22 | Hjalte | Eternally777: Sounds good :) |
02:01.31 | Eternally777 | Symian, couldn't you just Show/Hide the frame in the 'if-then' statement on line 7 of your example, rather than calling another function? |
02:01.50 | Eternally777 | I don't know if that would fix your problem though. |
02:02.02 | Symian | Eternally777, I plan on using SetPanelVisibility to manage all of my frames, though |
02:02.08 | Symian | in theory, this should save me some code |
02:02.50 | Symian | That does work, though |
02:03.02 | Symian | So I may just do that. Seems odd that you can't pass frames as values, though. |
02:03.08 | Eternally777 | I think it's because your 'SetPanelVisibility' function isn't a method of your addon. |
02:03.22 | Symian | Oh, no, I forgot, I changed that |
02:03.29 | Eternally777 | Ok |
02:03.30 | Symian | it's Sentinel:SetPanelVisibility now |
02:03.51 | Symian | Good catch though. :-) |
02:04.14 | Eternally777 | Are you calling 'Sentinel:ToggleShow()' from a method within your addon? |
02:04.57 | Eternally777 | nvm, that would error earlier |
02:04.58 | Symian | It's the method described to AceConsole as a toggle commands "set" function. |
02:06.39 | kergoth | Micron_WoW: nothing specifically. general concepts, and its use in programming, particularly when taking user input of rules using boolean logic |
02:08.42 | Symian | OH! |
02:08.49 | Symian | I definitely messed that one up |
02:09.07 | Symian | I... it'll take too long to explain. Short story is, the code I posted works fine. |
02:09.35 | Eternally777 | Yeah, I think you left something out. :P |
02:10.39 | Symian | I had been calling SetPanelVisibility from a previous place in my script before it had two args |
02:10.57 | Symian | so it was passing the second arg (which used to be the only one) in and totally borking on that. |
02:11.11 | Symian | There, that didn't take too long to explain. :-) |
02:11.13 | Eternally777 | I was just about to say that |
02:11.19 | Eternally777 | :) just kidding. |
02:11.22 | Symian | Heh. |
02:11.31 | Eternally777 | Good job tho. |
02:11.36 | Symian | Thanks. |
02:12.01 | Symian | Thanks for the help! |
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02:14.10 | Symian | Also, I asked this last night but it was late and I wasn't thinking straight: what are the exact grounds under which OnDragStart and OnDragStop get fired? For instance, if I have a frame that is covered with children entirely except for the border, but the children are NOT mouse-enabled, can I expect OnDragStart events to bleed down to the parent frame? |
02:14.51 | Symian | Initial testing says no, in which case: how do I handle dragging an entire frame when the user clicks a child frame? If all points are set, is WoW smart enough to drag all the frames connected? |
02:16.08 | JoshBorke | Symian: the children are not mouse enabled? |
02:16.20 | Symian | Well, I never TOLD them to be, via LUA. |
02:16.39 | Symian | But... and actually, this might be it, do children inherit that attribute? |
02:17.05 | JoshBorke | Symian: did you SetScript('OnDragStart',this:StartMovingOrSizing())? |
02:17.28 | Symian | Yes, dragging DOES work for the parent frame, but only if you click the 3-pixel-wide border |
02:17.32 | Symian | which is very... difficult. |
02:17.46 | Symian | At least it is on my monster screen. |
02:17.56 | JoshBorke | it doesn't hurt to try disabling the mouse on the child frames when you define them |
02:18.03 | Symian | Yeah, I'll give that a shot |
02:18.56 | Symian | Bingo. |
02:18.58 | Symian | That's it. |
02:19.00 | Symian | Ok, now I know! |
02:19.01 | Symian | Heh, thanks. |
02:19.22 | Symian | This is why I should learn to use XML... inheritance is a bit more obvious there. |
02:19.24 | JoshBorke | what kind of frames were the child frames? |
02:19.33 | Symian | STATUSBAR |
02:19.38 | Symian | the parent was a Frame |
02:19.39 | JoshBorke | heh, intesting |
02:19.54 | Symian | Interesting? :-) |
02:20.48 | Symian | Er, I'm not correcting your typo, I'm asking why that's interesting. :-\ |
02:20.57 | vid`` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etj7buHcmM8 |
02:20.58 | vid`` | wow thats sick |
02:21.01 | vid`` | lol |
02:23.22 | Symian | Brave man to keep firing after the first signs of buildup :-) |
02:23.25 | Adys | Hm anyone knows whether there is the possibility to stop the game from dismounting when you attempt to cast a spell, without addon? |
02:26.03 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 the game ddoesnt dismount you when you attempt to cast a spell, by default |
02:29.07 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: does to me, no idea why tho |
02:29.32 | Adys | Im pretty sure it's not an addon, i started getting that right after 2.0.10 and didn't update any addon in beetween |
02:30.09 | Symian | Oh, so I had an idea and wanted to float it around here to see what people thought. What do you think about an addon that acts like a Dashboard - you'd set a key to toggle it, and when it toggles on it hides UIParent and WorldFrame and then shows its own parent frame |
02:30.20 | Symian | Then has a standardized layout, sort of like a desktop organizer |
02:30.41 | Symian | for things like event calenders, enhanced maps, I dunno. |
02:31.03 | Symian | Is that useless, or do you think people would use it? |
02:34.21 | Symian | Guess I'll sit on it then. :-D |
02:42.14 | Micron_WoW | Not actually a bad idea Symian but do you have an idea how existing addons could take advantage of it without a rewrite? |
02:46.09 | Symian | Micron_WoW, that's the kind of thing I'll need to learn before embarking on such a task |
02:46.15 | Symian | But I thought it might be interesting. |
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02:48.29 | Micron_WoW | possibly, if you want a broader response you should probably suggest it on the forums since not too many people are going to go back over old irc logs. I'd also suggest taking a look at how fubar treats other addons as plugins |
02:49.04 | Symian | How's this for showing you how new to the community I am: what forums? The worldofwarcraft.com ones? |
02:50.12 | haste | if you are thinking of the wowace one, check topic |
02:50.56 | Symian | Well, I don't know what I'm thinking of. :-D |
02:51.06 | Symian | But I'll try both. |
02:51.21 | Symian | When, that is, I'm sure I know exactly what I'm talking about. |
02:51.40 | haste | I haven't followed the discussion so I wouldn't know at least :) |
02:51.44 | Micron_WoW | I was thinking of the wowace ones, since they have a section for addon requests and suggestions |
02:51.52 | Symian | Oh, very cool. |
02:51.59 | Symian | I'll have to check them out, then. |
02:52.24 | Symian | I'm going to get Sentinel up to version 1.0 first, though, so my words have some weight behind them. |
02:52.55 | Micron_WoW | meh, you can have good ideas even before you know how to implement them |
02:54.01 | Symian | Oh, you misunderstand me. I think my idea is so good, I want to be able to execute on it before others do. :-D |
02:54.18 | Symian | I've got IP to protect here, man. |
02:54.24 | Micron_WoW | heh ah I see |
02:54.59 | Symian | Speaking of which, not that it matters to me since I'd never go so far as to copyright my work for WoW, how does licensing for WoW Add-ons go? |
02:55.07 | Symian | Can people claim it as there own, all rights reserved? |
02:55.12 | cladhaire | well, copyright and licensing are different |
02:55.14 | cladhaire | and yes, you can. |
02:55.26 | Symian | I'll have to keep that in mind... be careful what you copy/paste! |
02:55.28 | cladhaire | but all rights reserved, means no one can send your file to someone else, and mod websites can't allow people to download it. |
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02:55.57 | Symian | I assume the Blizz EULA forbids charging for add-ons... |
02:56.07 | cladhaire | no it doesn't. |
02:56.12 | Symian | Hhhmmm. |
02:56.31 | cladhaire | you wouldn't be the first |
02:56.35 | cladhaire | not that it makes it a good idea |
02:56.40 | Symian | Heh, yeah. |
02:56.58 | Symian | People really do that? |
02:57.00 | Symian | That's nuts. |
02:57.05 | cladhaire | its their choice |
02:57.10 | Symian | It's a nutty choice. |
02:57.21 | cladhaire | thats your opinion =) |
02:57.30 | Symian | It's a nutty opin... hey, wait! |
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03:05.06 | Micron_WoW | Actually you don't have that option, I mean you can try to control the copyright on your code but all your use of it has to be non-commercial. |
03:05.36 | cladhaire | no |
03:05.39 | Micron_WoW | How enforceable a EULA actually is may be open to debate but it does state that "use the Game Client in conjunction with the Service for your non-commercial entertainment purposes only" |
03:05.40 | cladhaire | that's not true |
03:06.13 | Micron_WoW | I suppose you could argue that you developed the addon without using the game client at all but that would be rather difficult |
03:06.16 | cladhaire | writing an addon has absolutely nothign to do with writing an addon. |
03:06.34 | Micron_WoW | wait waht? |
03:06.36 | cladhaire | i'd rather not have this discussion again. |
03:06.39 | cladhaire | i'm not speaking opinion |
03:06.42 | Symian | You mean I can't use WoW for education, only entertainment?! No! My idea for VirtualKalimdorKindergarten is destroyed! |
03:06.42 | cladhaire | i'm speaking fact |
03:06.54 | cladhaire | and that should ahve read writing an addon has absolutely nothing to do with the client |
03:08.18 | kergoth | that depends on how you interpret the notion of a derived work. they could arguably affect your license |
03:08.32 | kergoth | i dont know that its gone either way in court yet |
03:08.38 | cladhaire | it hasn't that I know of |
03:08.51 | cladhaire | I've searched extensively, for a case that even attempts to qualify the use of API as a derived word |
03:08.53 | cladhaire | work |
03:08.59 | Symian | "It's more profitable ot ask for forgiveness than to ask permission." |
03:09.03 | Symian | s/ot/to/ |
03:09.10 | Symian | Hah, cool. |
03:09.16 | Industrial | :p\ |
03:09.26 | Industrial | its only replacement, no regex tho |
03:09.36 | Symian | No regex? :-( |
03:09.44 | kergoth | the whole notion of the gpl vs lgpl is moot if coding to an api doesnt make you a derived work. you'd be free to code against a gpl library with no problem, other than the fact that you'd have to be able to make the source for the gpl lib available. |
03:09.46 | Symian | Darn, I was about to write the prime number cruncher regex |
03:10.35 | cladhaire | kergoth: But you have to link to make that software work, in this case, the "linking" process doesn't happen until the game is loaded. |
03:10.36 | Symian | Oh, I really hope this turns in to a "GPL/Linux" vs "Linux" argument |
03:10.40 | cladhaire | in the most literal sense. |
03:10.43 | Symian | er |
03:10.44 | Symian | GNU |
03:11.05 | Micron_WoW | I think the "derived work" defenition is actually irrelevent to wow addons |
03:11.24 | kergoth | it isnt. you're coding to teh wow apis just like you would to any library's api |
03:11.48 | cladhaire | kergoth: If you read teh LGPL's section on linking, as well as the GPL, it becomes a bit clearer |
03:11.53 | kergoth | cladhaire: indeed. which is the problem, since you could drop in a replacement with conforms to the same api but which isnt subject to the same license |
03:11.58 | kergoth | i have, both |
03:12.00 | cladhaire | *nod* |
03:12.18 | art3mis | dear dr.stupid: whast the big chunk of white stuff in ym can of baked beans? |
03:12.32 | art3mis | That? that's the queen bean, and all the otehr beans are worker beans |
03:12.42 | chuckg | Bacon fat. |
03:12.48 | chuckg | Congealed into one, delicious bean. |
03:12.56 | art3mis | the queen bean ;P |
03:13.04 | kergoth | i ran into this issue with my zaurus distro, openzaurus. there were commercial applications coded to the commerical Qt library which were runnable on the _gpl_ qt |
03:13.09 | art3mis | and im totally gonna believe dr.stupid over you since he's a doctor |
03:13.16 | Micron_WoW | right, making calls to the wow API is just fine. The non-commercial use clause in the eula is refering to use of the client software at all, not linking to code. |
03:13.23 | kergoth | the notion of who's responsible for a violation there, if such a violation was occurring, was ugly |
03:13.44 | cladhaire | kergoth: indeed, this is part of the discussion when licensing was determined for Ace2 |
03:13.59 | cladhaire | where the only thing the GPL would do, is make the violation the _users_ not the _developers_ |
03:14.11 | cladhaire | but that's just a simplified view of things. |
03:14.38 | Symian | It's stuff like this that makes me glad I decided not to become a computer programmer. |
03:14.47 | Symian | The programming is fine and dandy |
03:14.53 | kergoth | for oz, we documented that users should rip the commercial qt out of hte original distro and use that if they wanted to be safe, but either way it was their responsibility |
03:14.54 | Symian | but the semantics can be... immersive. |
03:15.04 | Micron_WoW | could be worse, we're not talking about patents yes (and please don't start) |
03:15.11 | Symian | Hah. |
03:15.22 | cladhaire | why? patents don't get that ugly |
03:15.27 | Symian | hahahah |
03:15.30 | cladhaire | the patents that are granted, do get ugly |
03:15.34 | cladhaire | and thats the truth |
03:15.59 | cladhaire | don't ever ask me to _not_ do something |
03:16.04 | cladhaire | ;-) |
03:16.45 | Symian | I'm trying to turn that in to a paradox, but the logic part of my brain is fried |
03:17.00 | art3mis | dont go code me a modded fubarplugin lib that allows me to set different fixed height and width on each detached tooltip that i make |
03:17.15 | cladhaire | art3mis: ha, like i'd every code anythign for fubar |
03:17.45 | Symian | woo! ... ? |
03:17.47 | art3mis | but i told you not to |
03:17.52 | art3mis | you're playing into my demands! |
03:18.00 | art3mis | dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun |
03:18.04 | cladhaire | art3mis: you clearly don't know me very well =) |
03:18.35 | xyu | What's the fastest way to get exalted w/ the Sha'tar ? tempest keep runs? |
03:18.56 | art3mis | yup |
03:18.59 | xyu | kk |
03:19.02 | art3mis | cladhaire: nope i dont |
03:19.05 | xyu | any one in particular? |
03:19.13 | xyu | oooooooooooo a car accident just happened outside brb |
03:19.23 | art3mis | im fairly certain its all the same buty bot is prolly the most mobs |
03:19.26 | Symian | Hope no one got hurt. |
03:19.28 | cladhaire | xyu: shoes?. fuck shoes! |
03:19.35 | Symian | Hah. |
03:20.38 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
03:20.48 | Symian | Oh, also, does anyone know anything about WoW automagically persisting frame locations without any sort of code indicating persistancy should occur? |
03:20.56 | Symian | This when using LUA to create frames. |
03:21.35 | cladhaire | it should occur before PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, I believe, but I tend to do it MUCH earlier than that |
03:22.05 | Symian | No no |
03:22.05 | Symian | I'm saying |
03:22.05 | Symian | without me doing anything |
03:22.05 | Symian | my frames are persisting |
03:22.05 | Symian | Wherever I drag them |
03:22.05 | art3mis | clad has it added to the reg on machine start up ;P |
03:22.06 | cladhaire | yes.. because you're using StopMovingOrSizing() |
03:22.13 | Symian | And that persists location? |
03:22.17 | cladhaire | and the frames are created early enough |
03:22.23 | cladhaire | Symian: yes, see SetUserPlaced() |
03:23.00 | Symian | mm... but I DID use CreateFrame |
03:23.06 | Symian | and it says it doesn't work for that. |
03:23.13 | cladhaire | it lies. |
03:23.19 | cladhaire | it doesn't if you create the frames too late |
03:23.25 | Symian | I see. |
03:23.29 | Symian | Well, it's a very handy feature! |
03:23.32 | cladhaire | you created them early enough |
03:23.45 | Symian | I just wish it was documented so I wouldn't freak out about it. :-D |
03:23.53 | cladhaire | so change the wiki page =) |
03:23.56 | cladhaire | then it'll be documented. |
03:23.57 | Industrial | sigh categorizing and renaming porn is so boring at 4:30 am.. |
03:24.03 | Industrial | damn did i just say that on irc? :P |
03:24.13 | cladhaire | Industrial: you shoudl ahve said it in the dongle channel, |
03:24.16 | cladhaire | i'd agree with you =) |
03:24.41 | Symian | cladhaire, the only thing worse than no documentation is false documentation, and the WoW API has so many exceptions I'd be extremely scared with my limited knowledge to document anything... |
03:24.53 | haste | Industrial: write a script! |
03:24.56 | haste | I do that for everything |
03:24.59 | cladhaire | Symian: well, I told you, and you can verify the behavior |
03:25.02 | cladhaire | haste: lolz =) |
03:25.15 | haste | like... downloading anime, organizing anime on HDD across network... |
03:25.27 | Symian | I guess that is so. |
03:25.31 | haste | and updating my watched list of anime! |
03:26.31 | Symian | haste, write a script for writing scripts? |
03:26.41 | cladhaire | i've done that |
03:26.42 | cladhaire | a lot =) |
03:26.58 | haste | heh |
03:27.01 | Symian | User Interface development won't be done until you can grunt to get things done |
03:27.15 | kergoth | i spend more time building hammers than i do using them to pound nails. |
03:27.18 | kergoth | figuratively speaking |
03:27.22 | cladhaire | indeed |
03:27.52 | haste | but it's fun building hammers :( |
03:27.54 | Symian | Well some day, when the mother of all nails comes, and you need it to fix the leak in the hull of your space vessel, you'll have the hammer you need ready to go! |
03:28.05 | kergoth | haste: indeed |
03:28.08 | Symian | I'm not sure what the space vessel is in the metaphor. |
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03:41.24 | Antiar1 | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/randsigs.php |
03:41.25 | ckknight | hey all |
03:41.51 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
03:43.14 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
03:44.13 | Antiarc | Can't complain. |
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03:47.31 | CIA-11 | 03kergoth * r30852 10kEnergy/tick.lua: kEnergy: tweak for the next minor release, watch for the appropriate chat message for energy gains, rather than using COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE for it, so we can log the spell name for such things in the energy log. |
03:55.28 | Eternally777 | Has anyone seen an addon that makes use of the coroutine library yet? |
03:55.57 | kergoth | coroutines are convenient, but somewhat heavy |
03:56.06 | kergoth | understandable they havent seen wide adoption |
03:56.12 | NightHawkTheSane | you're mom's a coroutine. Convenient, but somewhat heavy. |
03:58.33 | Eternally777 | I'd like to see an example of how they work. After reading the chapter in the Lua manual on them, I'm getting the idea that they just let you pause one operation to retreive data from another, and then resume where you left off? |
03:58.40 | Eternally777 | Am I close? |
03:59.47 | cladhaire | consider an addon that has to do a lot of processing, say wants to calculate values based on some data, or compression decompression |
04:00.01 | cladhaire | you can do that in a coroutine, and still allow the game and other addons to function while you do your work |
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04:02.38 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 07eternally777 * r30853 10SacredBuff/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
04:02.38 | CIA-11 | SacredBuff: |
04:02.39 | CIA-11 | * Bringing branch up-to-date with trunk |
04:02.39 | CIA-11 | * Temporarily removing the Mount button |
04:02.39 | CIA-11 | * Rewrote a few large portions to operate with far less tables |
04:02.39 | CIA-11 | * Buttons now properly change color if the player is out of mana, or the player's target is out of range |
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04:03.07 | Eternally777 | That would be one massive addon. |
04:03.53 | kergoth | i did some deep table traversal of the global env thatd disconnect me before i finished, once. had to break up the processing. coroutines wouldve made that easier |
04:04.40 | cladhaire | think Ludwig |
04:04.45 | cladhaire | it iteraqtes all the items |
04:04.45 | Eternally777 | Yeah |
04:04.47 | cladhaire | that could be coroutined. |
04:04.50 | Eternally777 | That was what was coming to mind. |
04:04.53 | cladhaire | taint-tracing addons. |
04:08.20 | nymbia | hmm. the hydross module isnt enabling when i mouse over him |
04:08.32 | nymbia | fix it Funkeh` !! |
04:08.49 | Funkeh` | why? |
04:09.06 | Funkeh` | ..isn't it enabling |
04:09.32 | nymbia | dunno |
04:10.01 | Funkeh` | manually enabling working? |
04:10.20 | Funkeh` | try /rl |
04:10.22 | nymbia | yup |
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04:10.36 | nymbia | k sec |
04:11.05 | nymbia | worked that time |
04:12.06 | nymbia | thanks ;) |
04:12.59 | Funkeh` | man |
04:13.07 | Funkeh` | seriously the wierd thing going on wiht bigwigs lately |
04:14.36 | Funkeh` | tbh i blame your shit pc nymbia |
04:14.43 | Funkeh` | and everyone elses shit pc that bw doesn't work for |
04:14.48 | Aens|Superiority | is anyone else's WAU not showing the local directories? |
04:15.26 | nymbia | lol Funkeh` |
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04:18.22 | nymbia | Funkeh`: now that i think about it i had an error in core that session |
04:18.51 | Funkeh` | its because your pc sucks |
04:19.34 | nymbia | tru |
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04:28.25 | ilifin | screenshot of pitbull plx! |
04:28.51 | ckknight | just download it |
04:28.55 | Funkeh` | i don't wanna wake him |
04:29.34 | ilifin | nono ckknight, that is wrong attitude towards your own mod, you got to show what it looks like BEFORE you expect people to download it |
04:29.40 | ilifin | the words, they do nothing! |
04:30.14 | ckknight | um, no, I don't think so |
04:30.53 | ilifin | and why is that |
04:31.09 | ckknight | because I'm too busy coding it to be worried about showing it to users |
04:31.45 | ilifin | i.e. hitting screenshot while testing your code to have something to show the users is a bad thing? |
04:32.03 | ckknight | yes |
04:32.16 | ckknight | it's not complete. |
04:33.06 | ilifin | but yet it is working, so why not show it to those actually interested in trying it so they know what to expect it to look like? |
04:33.29 | ckknight | the users I care about will have downloaded it and tested it out already. |
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04:44.19 | Pyrrhus | Sup all |
04:46.29 | Pyrrhus | Anyone home? |
04:47.07 | Aens|Superiority | oh man. wwowaceupdater stopped working for me just now :/ |
04:47.33 | Pyrrhus | ouch |
04:47.37 | Gilded | Ever try WUU? http://wuu.vagabonds.info |
04:47.53 | Aens|Superiority | between installing windows updates, installing a new antivirus and bios updates, i have no idea where to start -_- |
04:48.23 | Pyrrhus | bios first |
04:48.26 | Pyrrhus | than AV |
04:48.30 | Pyrrhus | than windows |
04:48.35 | Pyrrhus | gogo |
04:48.36 | Pyrrhus | lol |
04:48.48 | Aens|Superiority | but the problem with WAU is that I dont get a listing of the addons I have installed |
04:48.54 | Aens|Superiority | everything else works fine... i think. |
04:48.57 | Pyrrhus | Ok.. if anyone is bored..... I have a huge problem with my UI's that I cant quite figure out whats causing it.. |
04:49.18 | Pyrrhus | I use a combination of ace2 stuff with fubar.. |
04:49.35 | Pyrrhus | now.. only happens on druids and warriors as far as I can tell so far... |
04:49.54 | Pyrrhus | I cannot get any names to show above peoples heads.. |
04:50.07 | Pyrrhus | even with the interface option checked.. |
04:50.23 | Pyrrhus | now for testing.... I tossed up the name plates.. |
04:50.32 | Pyrrhus | they come up blank plates.. no names in them |
04:50.43 | Pyrrhus | even if I select someone as a target.. still no name above the head |
04:50.49 | Aens|Superiority | disable mods individually -_- |
04:50.52 | Pyrrhus | including friendly, enemy, and NPC |
04:51.06 | Pyrrhus | I have and heres what I have come to in conclusion :) |
04:51.22 | Pyrrhus | combination of fubar and one of the libs for it |
04:51.27 | Pyrrhus | lemme check name of lib |
04:51.43 | Aens|Superiority | maybe its an outdated lib version you have? |
04:52.11 | Pyrrhus | tabletlib |
04:52.15 | Pyrrhus | I have updated all |
04:52.25 | Pyrrhus | now.. fubar will not work without tabletlib.. |
04:52.43 | Pyrrhus | I mean names are not the big problem... |
04:52.52 | Pyrrhus | but when I have these mods enabled... when I log out |
04:52.59 | Pyrrhus | the game crashes with a critical error |
04:53.05 | Pyrrhus | thats the annoying part |
04:53.08 | Pyrrhus | lol |
04:53.21 | Pyrrhus | I mean some people will say dont use fubar.. and yada yada.. |
04:53.35 | Pyrrhus | but I like it :) use it and love it on my mage with no problems |
04:53.56 | Pyrrhus | this happens on multiple accounts with multiple warriors and druids.. |
04:54.08 | Pyrrhus | havent tested rogue yet.. but im assuming this has something to do with stances.. |
04:54.21 | Pyrrhus | but than again it does it on my priest ...... |
04:54.23 | Pyrrhus | nvm |
04:54.34 | Pyrrhus | any ideas? |
04:54.53 | Pyrrhus | I have also just loaded fubar with nothing on it.. no fubar addons on |
04:54.57 | Pyrrhus | same results.. |
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05:12.58 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r30856 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 5 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Item/Loot update |
05:17.36 | Pyrrhus | So.. whos killed gruul lately? :) |
05:17.44 | Aens|Superiority | yesterday |
05:17.50 | Pyrrhus | pathetic eh? |
05:17.52 | Aens|Superiority | wow they nerfed the fight |
05:17.59 | Pyrrhus | well I tried to kill someone.. |
05:18.00 | Pyrrhus | 5k |
05:18.01 | Pyrrhus | lol |
05:18.04 | Aens|Superiority | yeah |
05:18.15 | Pyrrhus | I mean I actually blinked to someone... and he freaked out on vent.. |
05:18.22 | Pyrrhus | I was rolling |
05:18.36 | Aens|Superiority | on one hand, this new version is so easy |
05:18.38 | Pyrrhus | although.. |
05:18.42 | Pyrrhus | 2nd shatter.. I died.. |
05:18.44 | Aens|Superiority | so easy its boring |
05:18.51 | Pyrrhus | we had 3 of us stand on top of each other lol |
05:18.59 | Pyrrhus | we all got brezed though and moved on |
05:19.03 | Aens|Superiority | on the other hand, no more full consumables week after week |
05:19.04 | Pyrrhus | was funny.. |
05:19.11 | Pyrrhus | 2%.... 25 people alive.. |
05:19.17 | Pyrrhus | 1% 5 people died.. |
05:19.22 | Pyrrhus | mt than all melee |
05:19.25 | Pyrrhus | was so funny |
05:19.41 | Pyrrhus | I hear ya... did you get him before nurf? |
05:19.43 | Aens|Superiority | hrm? i dont get what you mean |
05:19.48 | Aens|Superiority | yeah, we did. |
05:19.48 | Pyrrhus | at 2% |
05:19.52 | Pyrrhus | everyone was alive |
05:19.55 | Aens|Superiority | oh |
05:19.57 | Pyrrhus | at 1% we lost 4 people |
05:20.02 | Pyrrhus | mt and 3 melee dps lol |
05:20.15 | Pyrrhus | but meh.. |
05:20.21 | Pyrrhus | we only had 1 kill prior to nurf |
05:20.34 | Pyrrhus | but was a bugged kill so meh... |
05:20.39 | Pyrrhus | best shot full out was 8% |
05:20.40 | Aens|Superiority | idk. we killed him on our first real kill attempt this week |
05:20.48 | Aens|Superiority | first attempt was a 'ok i heard they changed the fight' |
05:20.55 | Pyrrhus | lol |
05:21.03 | Pyrrhus | so you wiped? |
05:21.19 | Aens|Superiority | more like we were intentionally shattering ourselves to see the damage and the distance |
05:21.26 | Pyrrhus | ahh |
05:21.47 | Aens|Superiority | then we killed him before the 10th grow... |
05:21.53 | Pyrrhus | well we usually did ok first few shatters so I mean we went in knowing he was dead.. |
05:21.59 | Pyrrhus | yea we got him on 12 |
05:22.25 | Pyrrhus | but I died at like 85% so did the top warlock.. lol got brezed around 65% |
05:22.28 | Pyrrhus | so.. :) |
05:22.44 | Pyrrhus | I still placed 6th.. and the dead warlock.. somehow... placed 1st |
05:22.53 | Pyrrhus | dude dpses like a champ |
05:23.07 | Aens|Superiority | well, the rest of your raid is awful, but warlocks do very well on the fight naturally |
05:23.31 | Pyrrhus | hey now... lmao |
05:23.50 | Pyrrhus | I agree with you on the better part of it lol |
05:23.57 | Pyrrhus | we had 1 mage.. alive the entire fight.. |
05:24.01 | Pyrrhus | put out like 250k dmg |
05:24.06 | Pyrrhus | I pumped over 500k |
05:24.10 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
05:24.16 | Pyrrhus | warlock did like 530 |
05:24.32 | Pyrrhus | so.. theres a few we are "carrying" so to speak |
05:24.58 | Pyrrhus | but who knows.. I had alot of dps pots on at the start |
05:25.06 | Pyrrhus | adapt.. major firepower.. |
05:25.10 | Pyrrhus | basilisk food |
05:25.13 | Pyrrhus | umm |
05:25.21 | Pyrrhus | superior wiz oil |
05:25.31 | Pyrrhus | I had just over 1100+dmg lol |
05:25.34 | Aens|Superiority | there's no reason a mage should be doing half the damage of a warlock... |
05:25.45 | Pyrrhus | Oh trust me i know |
05:25.49 | Aens|Superiority | on gruul, should be within 30% at worst |
05:26.09 | Pyrrhus | yea its a recruit so.. dont think hes gonna last long |
05:26.18 | Pyrrhus | I mean his gear is comparable.. so theres no excuse |
05:26.43 | Pyrrhus | and its not like a rag fight where he could say.. well im specced fire... lol |
05:26.48 | art3mis | god of war 2 looks so wicked |
05:26.53 | Pyrrhus | or saph... omg im frost specced |
05:26.55 | Aens|Superiority | yeah. we've got mage problems too. Two of our mages are consistantly up near the top, then this one mage who does half their damage. |
05:27.10 | Pyrrhus | Ive had that problem in the past as well |
05:27.20 | Pyrrhus | last year in MC.. I consistantly tripled 2 other mages in dmg |
05:27.32 | Pyrrhus | funny thing was their excuse was.. |
05:27.32 | Aens|Superiority | well, fire/arcane vs an ice mage, no comparison ;p |
05:27.37 | Pyrrhus | well im fire specced... |
05:27.40 | Pyrrhus | bullshit |
05:27.43 | Aens|Superiority | oh.. |
05:27.45 | Pyrrhus | because I was #1 |
05:27.45 | art3mis | every ony fight i was in the top 10 for damage |
05:27.46 | Aens|Superiority | lol |
05:27.53 | Pyrrhus | and the #2 person... |
05:27.54 | art3mis | and im a priest ;P |
05:27.56 | Pyrrhus | was a fire mage |
05:27.58 | Pyrrhus | in MC |
05:27.59 | Aens|Superiority | yeah, problems -_- |
05:28.17 | Pyrrhus | in a typical MC run.. |
05:28.18 | art3mis | well to be fair the mc mobs i dont think had the right fire res they should |
05:28.19 | Pyrrhus | as frist |
05:28.21 | Pyrrhus | frost |
05:28.28 | Pyrrhus | I would put out 1.7mill dmg |
05:28.36 | Pyrrhus | fire mage would put around 1.5 |
05:28.45 | Pyrrhus | shit mage would be tossing around 400k-700k |
05:28.53 | Pyrrhus | so.. no excuses lol |
05:29.23 | Pyrrhus | art3mis: no they didnt thats why a fire mage could still be effective |
05:29.32 | Pyrrhus | art3mis: they had partial resists.. |
05:30.01 | Pyrrhus | somtimes 25%, 50%, or 75% resisted on spells... but for the most part a fire mage could own.. |
05:30.07 | Pyrrhus | specially with the old rolling ignite crap lol |
05:30.18 | Pyrrhus | but they took that away from us..... Ill tell you right now.. |
05:30.25 | Pyrrhus | they give that back and mages will be on top again |
05:30.26 | art3mis | heh rolling ignite made me happy |
05:30.32 | Pyrrhus | I loved it |
05:30.32 | art3mis | in every place but pvp ;P |
05:30.37 | art3mis | then it made me very sad |
05:30.40 | Pyrrhus | kidden me.. 12k rolling on chormag |
05:30.43 | Pyrrhus | Chromag |
05:30.48 | Pyrrhus | whatever you spell it lol |
05:30.55 | Pyrrhus | the big dog guy lol |
05:31.21 | Aens|Superiority | its kinda disappointing :/ |
05:31.24 | Pyrrhus | I used to tag team with 2 other fire mages.. we would chain pop combustion and roll like a truck |
05:31.38 | Aens|Superiority | I am top 5 dps when we dont fully pot up |
05:31.39 | Pyrrhus | I really want rolls back |
05:31.45 | Pyrrhus | same here.. |
05:31.47 | Aens|Superiority | but I'm top 10 if everyone pots up :/ |
05:31.57 | Pyrrhus | im always top 3-5 |
05:31.58 | Aens|Superiority | bad times ahead :( |
05:32.10 | Pyrrhus | usally 1 or 2 warlocks and a priest or 2 ahead of me |
05:32.16 | Aens|Superiority | all it does is confirm that feral druids are gonna taper off sharply in the months to come :/ |
05:32.22 | Pyrrhus | lol |
05:32.32 | Pyrrhus | Well im a pver so.. |
05:32.38 | Aens|Superiority | I do both. |
05:32.41 | Pyrrhus | I dont really give 2 shits about balance per say |
05:32.43 | Pyrrhus | but. |
05:32.48 | Pyrrhus | what pissed me off.. |
05:32.55 | Pyrrhus | is when blue posts int eh forums.. |
05:33.04 | Pyrrhus | that the mages in BC were the clear cut top dps in the game.. |
05:33.14 | Aens|Superiority | they can be. |
05:33.18 | Pyrrhus | and this omg jaw dropping numbers.. |
05:33.20 | Pyrrhus | I call bullshit |
05:33.31 | Aens|Superiority | arcane spec can put out amazing dps |
05:33.40 | Aens|Superiority | and with how viable shadow priests are now |
05:33.48 | Pyrrhus | theres no was a equally geared equally skilled mage can beat a properly specced warlock |
05:33.51 | Aens|Superiority | the biggest problem of going oom, isn't so much of a problem |
05:34.01 | Aens|Superiority | depends on the fight |
05:34.02 | Pyrrhus | it still is if you go arcane ive tried it |
05:34.06 | Pyrrhus | boss fight |
05:34.11 | Pyrrhus | all I care about |
05:34.17 | Pyrrhus | mages OOM to fast |
05:34.20 | Aens|Superiority | alot of karazhan fights, mages beat warlocks |
05:34.22 | Pyrrhus | even with evo and gems |
05:34.30 | Pyrrhus | only because of burst |
05:34.35 | Pyrrhus | and only if your fire |
05:34.35 | Aens|Superiority | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Superiority |
05:34.58 | Aens|Superiority | i need better jewellery :/ |
05:35.06 | Pyrrhus | lol |
05:35.09 | Pyrrhus | lemme get mine |
05:36.36 | Pyrrhus | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Pyrrhus |
05:37.07 | Aens|Superiority | its pretty sick. in my pve gear, i got 38.7% crit and 2403ap self buffed |
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05:37.27 | Pyrrhus | the only way I really keep up in KZ is if I keep my trinkets on CD which I tend to do |
05:37.47 | Pyrrhus | with molten armor I get around 31% crit with fire :) |
05:38.22 | Aens|Superiority | how much from spellfire vest? |
05:38.35 | Pyrrhus | havent made it yet.. |
05:38.39 | Pyrrhus | ran out of gold lol |
05:38.43 | Aens|Superiority | oh |
05:38.55 | Pyrrhus | spellfire vest is to damn expensive |
05:39.29 | Aens|Superiority | kinda sad how i'm not using a single bit of my pre-tbc gear cept for my healing set :/ |
05:39.39 | kenlyric | why would you be sad? |
05:39.48 | Kadish___ | not enough buttsecks |
05:39.50 | Kadish___ | thats what |
05:39.52 | kenlyric | I'd be like "yay, upgrades" |
05:39.59 | Kadish___ | yay buttsecks upgrade? |
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05:40.17 | Aens|Superiority | kenlyric: everyone gets the same upgrades. It really invalidates what you were doing for the last half year |
05:40.27 | kenlyric | I actually was concerned I'd have to use some of my old stuff for too long. Then I had to reroll, so there wasn't a problem at all. |
05:40.34 | Aens|Superiority | you could have stopped playing for the last year, and not be affected by it at all |
05:40.37 | kenlyric | Aens|Superiority: depends on where you found value in that time. |
05:40.54 | kenlyric | if you found value in your gear, sure. But that sounds like a rather dull value. |
05:40.55 | Aens|Superiority | some pieces of gear should have been good enough to compare |
05:41.04 | Aens|Superiority | kel'thuzad loot |
05:41.07 | Aens|Superiority | and such |
05:41.18 | Pyrrhus | nah |
05:41.19 | Pyrrhus | lol |
05:41.33 | Pyrrhus | I find value in content.. |
05:41.39 | Pyrrhus | thats all I really worry about |
05:41.44 | kenlyric | me too. |
05:41.54 | kenlyric | I like getting upgrades, but after that, I don't care about loot. |
05:41.57 | Aens|Superiority | the problem with content is that it requires farming old content to progress |
05:42.04 | Pyrrhus | basically I skipped getting serpantshire lair attunement done last night to let another mage get gear from nightbane |
05:42.06 | Aens|Superiority | if it was just about content and only content, i wouldn't care. |
05:42.17 | Aens|Superiority | but to kill 4hm, you can't do that in tier 2, 2.5 |
05:42.22 | kenlyric | well, the instance I got bored enough with an instance that I didn't want to go anymore... I stopped going. |
05:42.23 | Pyrrhus | what do you mean farm old content? |
05:42.37 | Pyrrhus | 2.5 you can |
05:42.43 | Aens|Superiority | not your tanks... |
05:42.45 | kenlyric | my t2 pants from rag be damned! |
05:42.49 | Pyrrhus | not tanks lol |
05:42.50 | kenlyric | of course, they dropped on my last run :) |
05:42.56 | Pyrrhus | haha |
05:43.08 | Pyrrhus | I sold all my netherwind other day lol |
05:43.26 | Pyrrhus | btw.. a mage with 11k hp is a mean sob! :) |
05:43.40 | Pyrrhus | I have a pair of pants with 82 stamins on them hehe |
05:43.44 | Pyrrhus | stamina |
05:43.58 | Aens|Superiority | yeah |
05:44.02 | Aens|Superiority | gladiator gear mages are tough |
05:44.09 | Pyrrhus | not gladiator.. |
05:44.10 | Pyrrhus | lol |
05:44.12 | Aens|Superiority | still hit hard, but 10k+ hp |
05:44.18 | Pyrrhus | I have like 200 arena points total |
05:44.31 | Pyrrhus | I grabbed the pants from Halaa.. |
05:44.33 | kenlyric | blizz itemizes so that t3 is about equal to karazhan loot. Of course, the change in valuation to stamina makes that relationship skewed a bit, especially for stam heavy classes. |
05:44.37 | Pyrrhus | the ones for 40 tokens.. |
05:44.47 | Pyrrhus | tossed the 30 stamd leather enchant on em |
05:44.52 | Pyrrhus | and a +12 stam gem lol |
05:45.08 | Pyrrhus | all specifically for tanking the mage on high king lmao |
05:45.19 | Pyrrhus | damn gem cost a bit lol |
05:45.47 | ilifin | we got 9.5k hp 100 resilience mage tanking the mage mob on maulgar |
05:45.52 | ilifin | with 10% hit |
05:46.53 | Aens|Superiority | i hate maulgar |
05:46.58 | Aens|Superiority | i'm feral bear tanking kiggler -_- |
05:47.01 | Aens|Superiority | so boring |
05:47.23 | Aens|Superiority | then pick up tanking maulgar on the fears |
05:48.46 | Pyrrhus | yea well... that 9.5 mage.. better not forget a spellsteal lol |
05:49.02 | Aens|Superiority | oh man. we have 7 in our arena team and i'm sitting out tonight to let the mage get his attendance. All i hear in vent is us losing :/ |
05:49.13 | Pyrrhus | ha ha ha |
05:49.14 | Pyrrhus | ha |
05:49.15 | Pyrrhus | ha |
05:49.16 | Pyrrhus | lol |
05:49.42 | Aens|Superiority | down to 1932 from 2005 |
05:49.43 | Pyrrhus | brb going for a smoke |
05:49.47 | Pyrrhus | ouch |
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06:21.50 | Funkeh` | later |
06:31.39 | Pyrrhus | back |
06:42.08 | Fisker- | needs moar C&C3 |
06:47.57 | Pyrrhus | heh |
06:58.38 | Aens|Superiority | omg |
06:58.41 | Aens|Superiority | it needs to come out |
06:58.52 | Pyrrhus | Im waiting for Crysis |
06:58.54 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
06:59.08 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30857 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
06:59.08 | CIA-11 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
06:59.08 | CIA-11 | - Added Reputation.Turnin.*, which contains repeatable faction turnin items for a given faction. |
07:04.29 | Kemayo | nymbia: I don't suppose that set includes the number you need per-turnin? |
07:05.08 | Aens|Superiority | finally got my turn back into the arena group. back to 2k! |
07:05.13 | nymbia | Kemayo: nope, not yet anyway. value per item and the point at which they stop giving rep, at the moment. |
07:18.31 | xlvii | zomg. |
07:18.34 | xlvii | when was the luffa nerfed? |
07:19.35 | ZealotOnAStick | in beta. |
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07:35.43 | Codayus | Is the bigwigs trunk version kinda stuffed? |
07:35.49 | Codayus | Or is it just me? :-) |
07:36.17 | vhaarr | It might be, I made some changes that could have broken it. |
07:36.21 | vhaarr | Codayus: What's happening? |
07:36.35 | Codayus | Complaints about missing core |
07:36.44 | Codayus | attempt to index field core... |
07:36.55 | Codayus | In TargetMonitor.lua |
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07:38.07 | vhaarr | then you just have to update |
07:38.23 | vhaarr | I fixed that a long time ago |
07:38.34 | Codayus | hmm |
07:38.49 | Codayus | which r? |
07:39.16 | vhaarr | 30822 |
07:39.48 | Codayus | Hmm, WoWAceUpdater says I have 30824. Hmm |
07:40.36 | Codayus | Yeah, I've got 30824 |
07:41.00 | vhaarr | open your targetmonitor.lua file and see |
07:41.02 | Codayus | Odd... |
07:41.09 | vhaarr | plugin.revision = tonumber(string.sub("$Revision: 30822 $", 12, -3)) |
07:41.11 | vhaarr | it should say that |
07:43.41 | Codayus | Ah... |
07:43.59 | Codayus | I may see the issue, it's not getting updated. |
07:44.05 | Codayus | Somehow |
07:44.13 | Codayus | Bigwigs is, not Bigwigs_Plugins? Um. |
07:44.27 | vhaarr | That's a WAU problem, then. |
07:44.41 | Codayus | Yep |
07:46.08 | sedatedChipmunk | i hate your face |
07:46.20 | Codayus | Figured it out...thanks vhaarr. :-) |
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07:53.31 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: you there? |
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08:04.53 | Kaelten-Laptop | anyone thing that 40k hits to the web server in two days from one ip is a little excessive |
08:06.36 | Nickenyfiken | If it's not my ip then i think it is |
08:06.54 | Kaelten-Laptop | are you from germany? |
08:07.28 | Nickenyfiken | nope |
08:09.21 | chuckg | What pages was it pulling up? |
08:09.34 | Kaelten-Laptop | that I'm not sure at this point. |
08:09.59 | Kaelten-Laptop | anyone able to tell me what kinda site this is? |
08:10.02 | Kaelten-Laptop | chrispix |
08:10.04 | Kaelten-Laptop | err |
08:10.05 | Kaelten-Laptop | wait |
08:10.09 | Kaelten-Laptop | kallstube.de |
08:10.13 | Kaelten-Laptop | knallstube.de |
08:11.01 | Kaelten-Laptop | the last one |
08:13.51 | Kaelten-Laptop | of course typing the ip in the browser gives me a page saying Access REstricted National Security Agency Unit States Of America No Such Agency any further inspections of this site will be treated as offense against the United tates of America and will be punished. Please leave now or we're considering further investigations. Nobody Nowhere |
08:13.54 | Kaelten-Laptop | lol |
08:14.19 | vhaarr | haha |
08:14.45 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r30858 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Adjust OnEnable to check for Quixote being initialized, and to put off running itself if it isn't. |
08:14.51 | Kaelten-Laptop | I'm thinking I'm going to ban that IP |
08:15.04 | Kaelten-Laptop | they beat the next closes person by more than 30k requests in those same two days |
08:16.47 | Nickenyfiken | ban.. ban! BAN! |
08:16.51 | Dynom | ckknight: Pitbull works great! |
08:17.03 | Dynom | ckknight: I'm just missing a pet-bar and the class of the target |
08:17.10 | Dynom | ckknight: and perhaps a feature to lock the frames |
08:18.15 | Dynom | ckknight: oh, I allready see the class, nvm that -_- sorry it's early |
08:18.15 | Pyrrhus | How many rogues does it take to gank a paladin? |
08:18.24 | Pyrrhus | Two of them; one to ambush him, and one in stealth at the Ironforge inn to finish the job. |
08:20.11 | Dynom | :-] |
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08:25.00 | echos | Hey does anyone know if there is a Nurfed UI Look-alike set of unit frames in the wowace library? |
08:29.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Kaelten-Laptop: knallstube.de has a German registration. The most information I can get from it is It's for the "Mahner bang tube" - a public counterstrike source game server for residents of Munich. |
08:30.23 | ZealotOnAStick | May not be that helpful, but I dont' know much about german registrations. |
08:30.28 | Dynom | ckknight: hmm, one other thing, A way of showing I've got a mob tapped or not, there is no way of telling now |
08:31.22 | Kaelten-Laptop | ZealotOnAStick: heh, well they're hitting the site for something aweful and as far as I'm concerned someone on there end owes me 120 US |
08:31.25 | Kaelten-Laptop | :P |
08:32.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Is your server running pfw? |
08:33.06 | Kaelten-Laptop | pfw? |
08:33.18 | ZealotOnAStick | the best of the various linux software firewalls. |
08:33.26 | Kaelten-Laptop | no clue |
08:34.08 | renchap | ban him :) |
08:34.38 | Nickenyfiken | I have no idea how many hits on a site is too much but some sort of blocking when the same ip access the server too many times in a short time should result in atleast a temp ban |
08:35.26 | renchap | iptables -A INPUT -s 213.239.199.199 -j DROP |
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08:40.24 | Kaelten-Laptop | I'm not sure if iptables is actually running |
08:40.25 | Kaelten-Laptop | :s |
08:40.41 | Kaelten-Laptop | and last time I tried to do something with it I had some issues with the damn thing just dying on me |
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08:41.23 | Kaelten-Laptop | ps -A | grep iptables returns nothing |
08:41.51 | ZealotOnAStick | is this hitting httpd or litey? |
08:42.02 | Kaelten-Laptop | both |
08:42.10 | Kaelten-Laptop | I'm scanning the squid logs |
08:42.18 | ZealotOnAStick | give 'em domain-level denies in both confs then. |
08:42.19 | renchap | try iptables |
08:42.35 | Kaelten-Laptop | renchap but doesn't iptables have to be actively running for it to work |
08:42.41 | renchap | there is no iptable process running |
08:42.49 | renchap | thats included into kernel |
08:42.54 | Kaelten-Laptop | ah |
08:43.30 | ZealotOnAStick | I knew there was some reason that rang as a smart thing in my head. |
08:43.34 | Kaelten-Laptop | sure on the syntax? |
08:43.40 | renchap | yup |
08:44.34 | Kaelten-Laptop | heh I wouldn't know anything about *nix if it hadn't been for wowace |
08:44.53 | Kaelten-Laptop | well someone is going to be pissed |
08:45.35 | Kaelten-Laptop | I'm shoked on that little script I wrote, it scanned 2 days worth of squid logs and kept track of every ip and how many accesses they made |
08:45.36 | ZealotOnAStick | At one point in time, I worked as a Network Technician in a nearly entirely Linux startup (Windows only on testing/demo machines) |
08:45.55 | Kaelten-Laptop | but it did so in just a few mins and parsed more than 6 million lines |
08:46.08 | ZealotOnAStick | However, having not used linux regulalry since then, the mental rot sets in. |
08:46.20 | ZealotOnAStick | what'd you write/run it in? |
08:46.39 | Kaelten-Laptop | python |
08:46.51 | Kaelten-Laptop | it only used ~ 8MB of ram too |
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08:47.06 | renchap | hmm |
08:47.10 | renchap | use grep |
08:47.11 | renchap | ^^ |
08:47.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Handy language. I'd probably want to learn it along with relearning perl, C, and lua if I actually liked to program. |
08:47.36 | Kaelten-Laptop | renchap I needed to keep track of how many times an ip hit |
08:47.38 | ZealotOnAStick | I suspect a grep of log files that large would bite. |
08:47.52 | Kaelten-Laptop | ZealotOnAStick: oh ya |
08:47.59 | renchap | you can do this with bash commands |
08:48.05 | Kaelten-Laptop | ya |
08:48.05 | renchap | cut | count |
08:48.09 | Kaelten-Laptop | bash commands I don't know :P |
08:48.11 | renchap | and thats very fast :) |
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08:49.50 | Kaelten-Laptop | 67k ips in 2 days |
08:54.53 | Dynom | grep -REi "(A|B)" * |
08:55.40 | Fin | it starts with cut and grep and bash bits |
08:55.49 | Kaelten-Laptop | Fin: lol |
08:55.50 | Fin | but it never ends! |
08:56.10 | Kaelten-Laptop | I have a relatively simple 25 line pythons cript that can tell me who my biggest hitters are over any number of log files. |
08:56.27 | renchap | Kaelten-Laptop: i can do this with one line ! |
08:56.38 | Fin | Dynom: grep -i '[ab]' * |
08:56.53 | Kaelten-Laptop | lol |
08:57.01 | Kaelten-Laptop | mine may be a little longer but I can maintain mine |
08:57.03 | Dynom | for 2 letters, yeah, for more, no |
08:57.14 | Kaelten-Laptop | plus I can run it on my windows box |
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08:57.16 | Kaelten-Laptop | easily. |
08:57.21 | Fin | Dynom: for more letters, just add them to the character class? |
08:57.23 | Dynom | Kaelten-Laptop: download unxtools |
08:57.37 | Dynom | Fin: do the same then w/o E for: wowace.com and google.com |
08:58.23 | Fin | Dynom: what are you trying to match? |
08:58.24 | Fin | [migi:pgl]:~ $ echo 'google.com' | grep -ci '[ab]' |
08:58.24 | Fin | 0 |
08:58.27 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30859 10GrindStatus/ (11 files in 3 dirs): |
08:58.27 | CIA-11 | GrindStatus: |
08:58.27 | CIA-11 | - Slim this puppy down. No longer using AceModuleCore, as the modularity was pointless at best and a bit on the big side with a couple dozen teeny tiny modules. |
08:58.27 | CIA-11 | - Now use a simple closure iteration to load up the 'modules' after the DB's been init'd. |
08:58.27 | CIA-11 | - Use PT3 for rep turnin lookups. |
08:58.35 | Fin | [migi:pgl]:~ $ echo 'google.com' | grep -Eci '[ab]' |
08:58.35 | Fin | 0 |
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08:58.57 | Dynom | Fin: I'm trying nothing, just showing the difference between using E and not using it |
08:59.54 | Dynom | s/faps/fRaps/ |
09:00.50 | Fin | Dynom: doesn't -E just add extended regex support? oh I see, it's just an example of using ()s... |
09:01.11 | Dynom | -E enables | or OR |
09:01.38 | nymbia | so there's a chunk in AceTab that says "---- REMOVE THIS SECTION WHEN 2.0.3 COMES OUT ----" |
09:02.02 | Fin | s'what I meant by ()s, bah BAH :) |
09:02.16 | Fin | heheheheheh |
09:03.05 | nymbia | ~flee |
09:03.16 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
09:03.16 | Fisker- | no you fool |
09:03.22 | Fisker- | you're a diplomat |
09:03.47 | nymbia | O.o |
09:03.56 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r30860 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Use a passing group for each category. |
09:05.18 | Fisker- | THIS IS SPARTAAAA |
09:05.33 | nymbia | ow |
09:06.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Any of you read I'm Blue? |
09:06.51 | Fisker- | that ain't sparta |
09:07.22 | ZealotOnAStick | http://www.blue-comic.com/archives/20070320.html |
09:08.06 | Fisker- | heh |
09:08.17 | Fisker- | make a macro that yells "THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAA" when kicking |
09:08.18 | Fisker- | good idea |
09:08.23 | Fisker- | i'll reroll back to my rogue |
09:18.31 | ZealotOnAStick | So, presuming I wanted to dump windows and use a linux install for a media player/server, what should I look at for build/distros? |
09:21.10 | Kaelten-Laptop | ZealotOnAStick: I like ubuntu |
09:21.17 | renchap | i like gentoo |
09:21.29 | Kaelten-Laptop | anyho |
09:21.32 | Kaelten-Laptop | gnight guys |
09:22.16 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30861 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: |
09:22.16 | CIA-11 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
09:22.16 | CIA-11 | - Couple little improvements to the core; make local references to oft-used global functions and use self:assert() instead of assert() |
09:22.22 | Fisker- | Gentoo is pretty hard to setup compared to ubuntu btw |
09:22.28 | xyu | Why did blizz remove the LFG chan? o_O |
09:22.35 | Fisker- | so you could ask about it |
09:22.49 | renchap | i know, i started with debian |
09:23.13 | renchap | but after some months i started to compile all my softwares with special options |
09:23.17 | renchap | so i switch to gentoo :) |
09:23.58 | Aens|Superiority | ugh, wau stopped updating and wuu insists on turning auctioneer on every time i update >.< |
09:24.05 | Aens|Superiority | err, wau stopped working |
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09:28.50 | Fisker- | Anyone know why ImprovedRWF keeps whining about missing a "BossBlock" module? |
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09:33.45 | Fin | it's just that time of the month |
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09:40.56 | vhaarr | Fisker-: Try updating ImpRWF. |
09:41.23 | Fisker- | running the newest one that WAU is able to fetch |
09:41.55 | vhaarr | Fisker-: Line# ? |
09:42.02 | Fisker- | sec |
09:42.08 | Fisker- | gotta restart wow :o |
09:43.52 | Fisker- | 479 |
09:43.57 | Fisker- | in core.lua |
09:44.14 | vhaarr | it will whine about that if BigWigs is not enabled |
09:44.54 | vhaarr | let me fix it |
09:45.35 | Fisker- | thanks :) |
09:46.50 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r30862 10ImprovedRWF/Core.lua: ImprovedRWF: Account for bw bossblock not being loaded or available. |
09:47.19 | Fisker- | /cheer |
09:55.48 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r30863 10kEnergy/tick.lua: kEnergy: add missing deformat lib instance |
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09:57.43 | compzolol | Hey, I'm very new to coding addons and I get an error when using AceDB-2.0, it saves the things i want, but then it adds loads of strange stuff so the file gets over 200mb+, anyone knows what could be causing this? (I pretty much copied the code from another addon) |
10:02.44 | xyu | Can scholo be 2 manned @ 70? :D |
10:03.15 | renchap | easily |
10:03.22 | renchap | i can do it alone with my warlock |
10:03.27 | Pyrrhus | Question.... why or how could fubar cause some of my characters to critical error out when logging out? |
10:03.28 | nymbia | compzolol: pastey the code? |
10:03.30 | xyu | kk |
10:04.08 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r30864 10ShutUp/ShutUp.lua: ShutUp: Iterate the friends list and guild roster 30 seconds after login. |
10:04.31 | Fisker- | rawr rawr dinasour |
10:04.36 | Fisker- | dinosaur* |
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10:13.24 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
10:13.38 | renchap | ratingbuster |
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10:21.20 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r30865 10ShutUp/ShutUp.lua: ShutUp: Bugfix. |
10:27.34 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30866 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: |
10:27.34 | CIA-11 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
10:27.35 | CIA-11 | - Ensure that the incremental GC doesnt eat the set we're working on during an :ItemInSet() call. |
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10:29.41 | krka | err... why would the gc eat memory that you're holding a reference to? |
10:30.37 | nymbia | weak table cache |
10:31.29 | nymbia | most of the api funcs make a solid reference to the cache entry's table for the duration of the call, i had forgotten to do it for that one for some reason |
10:32.51 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1174731549124.jpg <-find waldo (nsfw) |
10:35.02 | cncfanatics | yo ppl :) |
10:35.05 | cncfanatics | maths exam monday :'( |
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10:36.25 | krka | so you change the mode for the metatable? |
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10:39.11 | nymbia | krka: i could, but that'd require a decent bit of extra effort as those things sometimes return in the middle of loops and stuff like that |
10:39.26 | nymbia | krka: but i dont want to prevent collection at all, just on that one entry |
10:40.40 | nymbia | krka: i dont think you're supposed to change mode around on the fly, anyway |
10:41.16 | nymbia | yeah.. "After you use a table as a metatable, you should not change the value of its field __mode. Otherwise, the weak behavior of the tables controlled by this metatable is undefined." |
10:42.14 | vhaarr | Fisker-: you're a sick man |
10:42.22 | vhaarr | Fisker-: I just have to ask, is he really in there somewhere? :P |
10:42.40 | vhaarr | haha |
10:42.42 | vhaarr | there he is |
10:43.36 | krka | i see |
10:47.48 | Fisker- | :o+ |
10:47.49 | Fisker- | ? |
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11:17.59 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30867 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: |
11:17.59 | CIA-11 | GrindStatus: |
11:17.59 | CIA-11 | - Register defaults properly and use self where it shoulda been and wasn't. |
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11:20.59 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30868 10Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
11:20.59 | CIA-11 | Manufac: |
11:20.59 | CIA-11 | - Clean up menu code a little. |
11:24.35 | vhaarr | nymbia: have you considered making a aceoptions table and feeding to the dewdrop instead? |
11:24.48 | nymbia | vhaarr: it was too slow |
11:24.53 | vhaarr | nymbia: right |
11:25.17 | nymbia | vhaarr: doesnt allow for tooltips either, iirc |
11:25.26 | vhaarr | nymbia: SetItemRef? |
11:25.36 | vhaarr | nymbia: no, that doesn't work |
11:25.52 | nymbia | yeah |
11:25.58 | nymbia | need the hovering ones ;) |
11:26.14 | vhaarr | true |
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11:29.06 | nymbia | man.. autobar's code is scary |
11:30.27 | nymbia | why make sorted tables of alllll the PT sets you might ever want to use at load? |
11:32.20 | vhaarr | indeed it is |
11:32.27 | vhaarr | at least it doesn't lag any more |
11:32.33 | nymbia | heh |
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12:26.54 | CIA-11 | 03adirelle * r30869 10CastYeller/ (11 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
12:26.54 | CIA-11 | CastYeller: |
12:26.54 | CIA-11 | - can announce spell failures (out of line of sight, bad target type, ...) |
12:26.54 | CIA-11 | - can announce misses, resists, immunities... |
12:26.54 | CIA-11 | - enabled such announce for most dispel, decurse and crowd control spells, |
12:26.55 | CIA-11 | - announced events can be individually disabled, |
12:26.57 | CIA-11 | - new announce pattern substitutions : [prepended_text${VAR}appended_text] and [prepended_text${VAR}appended_text#else_text] |
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12:37.36 | Fisker- | omg it's 13:37 here |
12:37.42 | [dRaCo] | oh noes! |
12:38.31 | Adirelle | ... |
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13:14.00 | CIA-11 | 03tattersail * r30870 10IncomingHeals/ (. Core.lua IncomingHeals.toc): |
13:14.00 | CIA-11 | IncomingHeals: |
13:14.00 | CIA-11 | - Added X-perl support |
13:30.53 | BankZ | IncomingHeals work with agUF? |
13:36.46 | Industrial | try it? |
13:40.24 | Stephmw | Industrial: now that would be a first. |
13:40.34 | Stephmw | Industrial: it's like asking someone to google before asking a FAQ |
13:42.33 | Industrial | imho asking if x works with y on an irc channel and then awaiting a reply is a lot slower thn just trying it out |
13:42.41 | Industrial | (or say, a forum) |
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13:43.57 | Stephmw | agreed |
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14:11.04 | Amadeo | I hate those rainy Saturdays where you wake up with a headache |
14:13.49 | Amadeo | I guess you guys are still sleeping, so no headaches yet! |
14:15.44 | Elkano | stop drinking that much on Friday evenings ;) |
14:16.04 | Amadeo | hehe |
14:16.22 | Amadeo | it's probably from getting pissed at people ganking me :P |
14:16.47 | Amadeo | I'm out on my Warlock (with really crappy gear!) minding my own business, and always, some 2 man crew comes up to gank me :P |
14:17.19 | Amadeo | The first were two 61 Draenei Warrior/Priest combo, I was able to kill the Priest, but the Warrior got me since she was chain-healing him with Spirit of Redemption |
14:17.50 | Amadeo | I did manage to get them both down and camp them a while though, but I was still pissed, I wanted 62 last night :P |
14:18.30 | Industrial | people are tapping m mobs all the time |
14:18.37 | Amadeo | yeah, I hate that too |
14:18.38 | Industrial | "oh hes being attacked by 2 better help" |
14:18.41 | Industrial | IM PALADIN |
14:18.44 | Amadeo | haha |
14:19.05 | Industrial | (just got ding 20 btw :D) |
14:19.07 | Amadeo | the best is when you go into an area and some small group pulls everything at once, just to make sure you can't get anything |
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14:19.33 | Arrowmaster | when people do that to me i just pull the entire camp and kill it while they stand their with their thumbs up their asses for the next few minutes waiting for respawns |
14:19.35 | Industrial | does my Retribution aura (holy dmg to anyone that hits me) tap mobs? |
14:19.42 | Industrial | haha |
14:20.05 | knarf- | Industrial try it? |
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14:20.45 | Amadeo | With TortoiseSVN, how do you omit Externals each time you update? |
14:20.52 | Industrial | knarf-: oo sharp. well my unitframes dont display tapped status (yet) |
14:21.07 | Arrowmaster | theres a function to check if a mob is tapped to you, but i dont know of any unitframes that display it |
14:21.08 | knarf- | Industrial tsk tsk :P |
14:23.06 | Fin | Industrial: you mean, you don't know of any unitframes that change colour when a mob has been tagged by someone else? |
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14:24.26 | Fin | er |
14:24.28 | Industrial | no, _my_ unitframes |
14:24.40 | Fin | -Industrial+Arrowmaster |
14:24.40 | Industrial | :P\ |
14:24.41 | Fin | htf did I get that mixed up |
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14:28.31 | Elkano | Amadeo, instead of "update" use "update to revision" |
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14:29.38 | Amadeo | thanks :) |
14:32.27 | Groll | loool i was banned on the forum hahaha |
14:32.35 | Groll | for spamming and trolling o_O |
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14:36.28 | Groll | posting as stinkfot and got banned for this lol http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=263786820&sid=1&pageNo=5 |
14:39.23 | Feathren | Hi all, I have a problem with my wowaceupdater (hope you can understand what i mean, i try to explain it as good as possible ;o); I had version 1.6 and everything was alright, then I changed something in "Energyoptions" in Windows (that my computer should go in stand-by-mode after 20 minutes of being afk); after that 1.6 didn't work anymore. well, I installed 1.7 and there is still the same error message when I double-click the start-butt |
14:39.28 | Feathren | hope you can help^^ |
14:42.21 | Kaelten-Laptop | g'morning |
14:43.29 | Ominous | mornin |
14:47.03 | Elkano | morning Kaelten :) |
14:47.51 | Groll | hmm anyone know if i need standalone libs for some of the grid stuff? |
14:47.57 | Groll | cause me is getting buuuugs :( |
14:51.30 | stavmar | Elkano: what was the command to turn on your beta buff mod: /load ace elkanobuffbars? |
14:51.46 | Elkano | /ace load ... |
14:51.51 | stavmar | lol ok |
14:52.07 | Elkano | and it's ElkBuffBars |
14:52.07 | stavmar | aah |
14:52.09 | stavmar | thank you for that |
14:52.22 | stavmar | did your latest revision add resizing? |
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14:54.28 | snurre | is it usable now? |
14:55.00 | Elkano | stavmar, yes it did |
14:55.09 | stavmar | sweet |
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14:55.24 | Elkano | snurre, getting closer... but still LoD and saving over sessions disabled |
14:56.27 | snurre | glad to hear :p |
14:56.29 | stavmar | ok so w reload it each time for now then |
15:06.55 | Fisker- | i hope it doesn't SUCK Elkano |
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15:07.46 | Elkano | Fisker-, it's not you so most likely it wont |
15:08.24 | Ominous | rofl |
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15:10.44 | Fisker- | I dislike you :( |
15:12.23 | Fisker- | wtb command |
15:12.26 | Fisker- | oh |
15:12.28 | Fisker- | fubar plugin |
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15:14.34 | Fisker- | Nice |
15:14.42 | Fisker- | Now we just need in-icon text support |
15:14.44 | Fisker- | and timers |
15:17.37 | Groll | [2007/03/24 16:04:24-29-x1]: GridStatusOverHeal\GridStatusOverHeal.lua:3: Cannot find a library instance of RosterLib-2.0.ag_UnitFrames-05-01-07.30719\libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:438: in function `AceLibrary'GridStatusOverHeal\GridStatusOverHeal.lua:3: in main chunk --- |
15:18.05 | art3mis | so how is pitbull? |
15:18.13 | Elkano | quick fix: download RosterLib standalone ;) |
15:18.26 | art3mis | groll just delete the contents of grid and install with externals ;) |
15:18.30 | Srosh | snappy |
15:18.33 | Groll | Elkano i dont want to :P |
15:18.40 | Groll | i hate external libs |
15:18.49 | Groll | they should be banned :P |
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15:20.27 | Elkano | ^^ |
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15:24.19 | Elkano | Fisker-, so you like what you've seen? |
15:24.52 | Elkano | (including mind-numbing drugs into an addon was the best idea I ever had ;) ) |
15:25.31 | Kaelten-Laptop | http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b230/sad_boy/mental0oy.jpg |
15:29.36 | Ominous | rofl |
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15:30.18 | Kaelten-Laptop | http://chickencrap.com/c.php?c=175 |
15:30.22 | Kaelten-Laptop | um somethings wrong there |
15:30.24 | Kaelten-Laptop | lol |
15:30.51 | Ominous | lol |
15:31.10 | Kaelten-Laptop | http://www.chickencrap.com/c.php?c=353 |
15:31.12 | Kaelten-Laptop | lmao |
15:31.39 | Ominous | lol |
15:34.10 | Kaelten-Laptop | http://www.chickencrap.com/c.php?c=212 |
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15:38.25 | CIA-11 | 03adirelle * r30871 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua: |
15:38.25 | CIA-11 | CastYeller: |
15:38.25 | CIA-11 | - fixed whispers. |
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15:57.56 | Feathren | Hi all, I have a problem with my wowaceupdater (hope you can understand what i mean, i try to explain it as good as possible ;o); I had version 1.6 and everything was alright, then I changed something in "Energyoptions" in Windows (that my computer should go in stand-by-mode after 20 minutes of being afk); after that 1.6 didn't work anymore. well, I installed 1.7 and there is still the same error message when I double-click the start-butt |
15:57.58 | Feathren | hope you can help^^ |
15:59.34 | Fin | that sounds like a problem with Windows, not WAU, Feathren |
15:59.52 | Gnarfoz | (feathren von EU-aegwynn? ^^) |
15:59.57 | Feathren | yes, but doesn't anyone know what to do? :< |
16:00.00 | Feathren | jo... |
16:00.06 | Fin | changing your energy usage options in Windows shouldn't affect WAU at all |
16:00.36 | Fin | so, can you describe what happens in a bit more detail? |
16:00.58 | Feathren | i double klick the symbol and the error message pops up |
16:01.00 | Feathren | twice |
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16:02.24 | Fisker- | fukken saved |
16:09.50 | Fin | what is the error message? what symbol are you clicking? where is it popping up? |
16:13.07 | Nickenyfiken | What is correct, "IT-Group" or "IT Group" |
16:13.09 | Nickenyfiken | ? |
16:14.06 | packetls1 | latter nicke |
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16:19.25 | Loki|muh | is there a nice fishing addon around? |
16:19.52 | JoshBorke | FishingAce is nice |
16:20.11 | Loki|muh | will try, thanks |
16:22.02 | Feathren | 2(Fin2): I double-klick WowAceUpdater.exe and the error message pops up in the middle of the screen. |
16:22.16 | Feathren | sorry for highlight |
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16:23.47 | Fin | Feathren: what does the error say? |
16:24.24 | Feathren | "The application could not be initated (0xc0000005). Click "OK" to end the application." |
16:24.32 | Feathren | should be the right translation |
16:25.11 | Fin | that's probably the least helpful error message I've ever seen |
16:25.27 | Elkano | is WAU based on .net? |
16:25.28 | Fin | Microsoft, for the world's largest software company you are terribly shit sometimes |
16:25.47 | Tornhoof | you might want to reboot ;) |
16:26.28 | compzolol | sometimes, fin? |
16:27.10 | Fin | compzolol: sometimes..? whu? sorry? is this a reply to something I said hours ago? :) |
16:27.27 | compzolol | [17:25] <Fin> Microsoft, for the world's largest software company you are terribly shit sometimes |
16:27.32 | Fin | oh! |
16:27.46 | Fin | well you know, it takes a while for the rage to build up properly |
16:27.51 | compzolol | I think Microsoft is terribliy shit most of the time |
16:27.55 | Fin | first error of the day and all |
16:29.18 | Feathren | could it be, that it has something to do with windows registry? no idea at all :( |
16:29.58 | Fin | Feathren: try reinstalling .Net and rebooting |
16:30.15 | Loki|muh | JoshBorke: is it normal that fishingace needs a double right click to cast? |
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16:31.46 | Feathren | well, I try to |
16:32.09 | chutwig | Kirkburn: would you have any idea why the numbers in fubar still appear like calibri v1 when everywhere else they appear like 0.9? |
16:32.20 | chutwig | i replaced all the font files everywhere so i'm not sure why it's happening |
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16:36.31 | stavmar | Elkano: you still there |
16:36.43 | Elkano | kind of ;) |
16:37.10 | stavmar | lol, how do you make sure that blizzards standard buff icons do not appear when using your test buffbars |
16:38.13 | Elkano | hmm... I most likely forgot to put taht in yet ^^ |
16:38.28 | stavmar | well they look good anyways |
16:39.13 | Elkano | :) |
16:42.48 | xyu | hey anyone in here pretty good w/ macroes and can explain something for me? |
16:42.54 | xyu | ./cast [help] Righteous Defense; [target=targettarget,help] Righteous Defense |
16:43.02 | xyu | how does this work exactly? |
16:43.05 | xyu | what's it do? |
16:43.10 | xyu | i dont have to target the player? |
16:43.22 | xyu | (this is for paladins) |
16:43.37 | [dRaCo] | it also works if you are targeting an enemy |
16:43.46 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
16:43.54 | Gnarfoz | it taunts off your target if the target is friendly |
16:43.56 | [dRaCo] | it will cast RD on that enemy's target |
16:44.03 | xyu | ok but say, 2 people have aggro besides me |
16:44.05 | Gnarfoz | else, if you have a hostile target, it taunts of its target |
16:44.06 | xyu | ohh i see |
16:44.12 | Gnarfoz | *off |
16:44.27 | xyu | so it's for when the mob i'm tanking loses aggro |
16:44.38 | Gnarfoz | yep |
16:44.40 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
16:44.43 | xyu | thanks ^^ |
16:45.27 | Gnarfoz | <Loki|muh> JoshBorke: is it normal that fishingace needs a double right click to cast? <- yes |
16:46.15 | Loki|muh | ah ok thx |
16:46.35 | Fin | now that you can do it |
16:46.41 | Fin | let's make a chain now |
16:47.03 | Fin | (just as an idea) |
16:49.20 | Loki|muh | Gnarfoz: do you know if its possible that fishingace starts fishing automatically after looting? |
16:50.12 | Loki|muh | ah loot via doubleclick does what i want :) |
16:50.22 | Loki|muh | fine :) |
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17:04.26 | Loki|muh | hmmm it does not what i want :/ |
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17:08.33 | Gilded | How do you setup stance paging on a second BT3 bar? |
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17:19.25 | Nickenyfiken | Gilded: have you checked out page swaping for the bar you want bar you want to swap? |
17:29.39 | Gilded | Nickenyfiken, yeah it wasn't working @ first, but a UI reload and the option appeared in setup. |
17:34.58 | Nickenyfiken | ah ok |
17:35.33 | Silviu- | lol i have an shaman taureen vharr on server |
17:36.56 | xyu | i have no idea what you just said. |
17:43.12 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 07eternally777 * r30872 10SacredBuff/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
17:43.12 | CIA-11 | SacredBuff: |
17:43.13 | CIA-11 | * Adding necessary code to prepare for the addition of the new mount button |
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17:52.23 | vid` | hmm |
17:52.26 | vid` | combine work yet? :P |
17:52.28 | vid` | i see it on wau |
17:52.44 | vid` | ````````````````/gu anyone wa |
17:52.46 | vid` | oops |
17:52.47 | vid` | haha |
17:52.48 | vid` | damn alt tab |
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17:53.17 | vid` | multimonitor for the lose :P i |
17:55.17 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r30874 10SacredBuff/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
17:55.17 | CIA-11 | SacredBuff: |
17:55.18 | CIA-11 | (Merging branch into trunk) |
17:55.18 | CIA-11 | * The mount button has been permanently removed from the core SacredBuff mod |
17:55.18 | CIA-11 | * Many of the core functions have been rewritten to perform their tasks more efficiently |
17:55.18 | CIA-11 | * Buttons will now properly change color if the player is out of mana or the player's target is out of range |
17:55.53 | harl|WoW | who said AutoBar wouldn't lag anymore ? |
17:56.07 | harl|WoW | i'll just pretend nobody did |
17:57.00 | Lysithea | hmm, Im trying to figure out how I setup my Grid how I want but I cant figure out how I do this: When out of range the health should gray out, works fine, but the health bar doesnt update. As in they can have 5% and still show as 90% grayed out. Any ideas on where I should look? |
17:57.22 | Lysithea | that first sentence there was really fubared |
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18:01.20 | cncfanatics | hmmm, is there any way to find the time since I logged in ? |
18:04.16 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r30875 10SacredBuff_Mounts/ (. Libs/ SacredBuff_Mounts.lua SacredBuff_Mounts.toc): |
18:04.16 | CIA-11 | SacredBuff_Mounts: |
18:04.16 | CIA-11 | * Introducing 'SacredBuff Mounts', a revolutionary new addition to SacredBuff that adds a handy-dandy Mount button to the main sphere |
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18:04.53 | harl|WoW | cncfanatics: something like /played ? |
18:04.55 | Fin | harl|WoW: vhaarr did! it was vhaarr! |
18:05.38 | harl|WoW | Fin: i'll just pretend he didn't, because AutoBar still lags hell |
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18:07.11 | Fin | harl|WoW: denial is a safe place to live |
18:08.05 | harl|WoW | i'm just stating facts. |
18:08.07 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r30876 10SacredBuff_Mounts/ (. Libs/): |
18:08.07 | CIA-11 | SacredBuff_Mounts: |
18:08.07 | CIA-11 | * Embedding libraries |
18:10.17 | cncfanatics | harl|WoW? that'll get me the time this level, but not this session |
18:10.27 | Fin | harl|WoW: then pretending they're not facts! seriously though, I think denial is a perfectly acceptable way of dealing with a lot of situations, very useful |
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18:10.49 | Fin | harl|WoW: and yeah, Autobar does still lag loads :( at least it did yesterday when I tried it out |
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18:12.09 | harl|WoW | and that's true. |
18:12.28 | harl|WoW | and i won't deny anything being true either. |
18:13.21 | vhaarr | Fisker-: gah, what did I do now? |
18:13.46 | Fisker- | wasn't me who dissed you this time |
18:13.54 | Fin | harl|WoW: yes |
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18:15.00 | Funkeh` | hi all |
18:15.23 | Fin | vhaarr's not some sort of item to be dissed! jesus man, have you got any idea how much he'd fetch on the AH? |
18:15.32 | Fin | hi Funkeh` |
18:16.02 | vhaarr | 2g? |
18:16.04 | vhaarr | hey funk |
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18:16.37 | Funkeh` | vhaarr is priceless |
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18:18.02 | harl|WoW | i'll just pretend nobody said anything like that. |
18:18.47 | Funkeh` | can anyone confirm mind exhaustion has been nerfed to 1.5min for mag? |
18:19.57 | Eternally777 | It was still 3 minutes on Thursday, but that's the best I can do. |
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18:31.58 | Fisker- | does cavity even have a command handler? |
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18:34.47 | Punkie` | it's PitBull now naab |
18:35.57 | Fisker- | DO NOT WANT |
18:36.11 | Punkie` | tough! |
18:37.12 | ckknight | Fisker-: no configuration at all. |
18:37.18 | ckknight | yet |
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18:38.23 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30877 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add the pet unit frame |
18:38.58 | Fisker- | how awesome is it ckknight? |
18:39.19 | Bruners | ckknight: your new unit frames? |
18:41.56 | Fisker- | excuse me wtf r u doin? |
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18:42.48 | TheoWoW | anyone else having trouble getting Cartographer and TrackerFu to coexist? Or is that just my uber noobness in play? :D |
18:43.12 | Funkeh` | don't worry |
18:43.17 | Funkeh` | you can't suck more than nymbia |
18:43.33 | vhaarr | Elkano: ping |
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18:44.20 | TheoWoW | well, that's a comfort. But I was so diggin having exclusively Ace stuff in my addons folder, till TrackerFu started flakin on Cartographer. |
18:44.48 | TheoWoW | or maybe Cartographer is flakin on TrackerFu, OR, the more likely event. I noobed something up. |
18:44.53 | Cryect | Funkeh`: I've heard from several people it has the change was hotfix on Thursday Night sometime (we killed him earlier on Thursday without that change) |
18:44.58 | Fisker- | lol |
18:45.11 | Funkeh` | cryect, ive read it on EJ but don't see a blue |
18:45.13 | Fisker- | "Level 70 druid LFG i got +772 healing (I'm feral specced)" |
18:45.13 | Fisker- | :D |
18:45.29 | Cryect | Well a blue sure didn't say what the other changes were on magtheridon either :-p |
18:45.34 | Thrae | Fisker-: That's my tagline! |
18:45.58 | Amadeo | who do druids hate fighting the most in PvP? |
18:46.01 | Thrae | Screw Resto, a Feral can heal fine with the right gear |
18:46.36 | Thrae | Amadeo: Paladins or Warlocks |
18:46.46 | Cryect | I was about to seem that doesn't seem like much gear but then again I guess I'm biased in Tier 3 + Karazhan Healing Epics |
18:46.47 | Amadeo | what about Mages? |
18:47.07 | Thrae | Amadeo: Well, it depends on the Druid spec |
18:47.10 | Cryect | Mages are fine |
18:47.11 | ckknight | Fisker-: it's awesome |
18:47.12 | Thrae | Feral Spec tears up Mages |
18:47.13 | ckknight | Bruners: yes |
18:47.28 | Cryect | mages only kill a druid if they can burst them |
18:47.36 | Cryect | and well thats somewhat luck based |
18:47.46 | Amadeo | I guess hate fighting Paladins since the fight will last all year? |
18:48.06 | Cryect | Druid should never be able to beat a paladin if the paladin knwos what they are doing excactly |
18:48.17 | Thrae | Amadeo: It's hard to stop their healing, yeah, and they now have their own Executer |
18:48.26 | Fisker- | how do i shot web ckknight ? |
18:48.35 | Amadeo | Executor, makes me think of Protoss :P |
18:48.38 | Fisker- | i.e. wtb slashhandlers for pitbull |
18:48.41 | Thrae | Before GGWrath we could have had the upper-hand, but a Druid has to be extra-careful |
18:48.56 | harldephin | starcraft ftw |
18:49.01 | Thrae | Now if I swear a lot, it's because I'm watching Full Metal Jacket for the 1st time |
18:49.02 | ckknight | Fisker-: no |
18:49.34 | TheoWoW | Thrae: erm, funniest war movie ever. First half anyways. |
18:50.09 | Thrae | TheoWoW: Yeah I'm guessing when they get out of boot camp it'll be some nice hippy crap about horrible Viatnam is |
18:50.15 | Cryect | its not |
18:50.17 | Thrae | s/Viat/Viet/ |
18:50.33 | ckknight | Thrae: Full Metal Jacket = awesome |
18:50.54 | harldephin | lol |
18:50.57 | Thrae | I watched American History X right before this |
18:50.59 | Cryect | well its nothing happy but I don't know of any war movie where its really happy |
18:51.26 | TheoWoW | nah, it's an attempt at an accurate portrayal. |
18:51.29 | Thrae | American History X should be required viewing for all teenagers |
18:51.37 | Fisker- | then how am i supposed to know wtf to do? |
18:51.47 | Fisker- | QQ :( |
18:52.00 | Thrae | I wish I saw it when I was a kid, then maybe I wouldn't have joined the Black Panthers |
18:52.22 | harldephin | what? |
18:52.27 | TheoWoW | television can't do justice to what those men went through, BUT it's a decent story about a journalists tour of duty. Put it this way, you've heard the term 'Your FIRST job is a soldier, THEN you are a journalist'. Well, this holds true in the movie. |
18:52.53 | Amadeo | Is there a plugin for foobar2000 that will read cddb stuff for when I play a CD? |
18:55.45 | Amadeo | oh I guess it's already included, nevermind |
18:55.49 | Amadeo | kinda buried |
18:57.17 | TheoWoW | so I'ma go with a no on my qestion. |
18:57.26 | TheoWoW | Is there anyone SUCCESSFULLY running both together? |
18:57.43 | Amadeo | I dunno, but I loved you on the Cosby Show! |
18:58.20 | TheoWoW | thank you. You think my star power could get me some answer luvin? :D |
19:03.49 | Amadeo | Sorry Theo, you're washed up now! |
19:07.35 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30878 10PitBull/ (Layout.lua PitBull.lua PitBull.toc): PitBull - separated Layout into a separated file |
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19:09.56 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WAU 1.7-final http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. | If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. |
19:10.26 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WAU 1.7-final http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. | If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. |
19:10.33 | Kaelten | ack lag sorry for the spam |
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19:10.50 | trh | great quote! |
19:10.58 | Amadeo | hehe |
19:13.18 | Hjalte | Eternally777: Is it powerful to use the flying mount in outland via Sacredbuff with the new mount addon? |
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19:13.21 | Hjalte | eh |
19:13.24 | Hjalte | Possible* |
19:15.25 | Elkano | vhaarr: pong |
19:15.40 | vhaarr | Elkano: what type does ebb use for their sharedmedia bar textures? |
19:15.44 | vhaarr | Elkano: "statusbar"? |
19:15.49 | Elkano | yes |
19:15.54 | vhaarr | alright, thanks |
19:16.18 | Eternally777 | Hjalte: Yes |
19:16.52 | Eternally777 | Hjalte: Just select the flying mount from the dropdown menu that appears when you hold in the 'alt' key and right-click on the mount button. |
19:17.06 | Eternally777 | And then that will be the default mount. :) Simple. |
19:17.25 | Hjalte | Eternally777: Ah, great. Thanks. |
19:18.08 | Eternally777 | One question, do macros need to be localized? '/cast' works on all clients, correct? |
19:19.30 | CIA-11 | 03adirelle * r30879 10BankList/: BankList: guild bank and alt item searching through chat and slash command |
19:19.41 | Arrowmaster | theres a global string for "/cast" thats localized |
19:20.13 | Eternally777 | Aw geez. |
19:20.34 | Eternally777 | I guess I should fix that then. |
19:21.04 | Arrowmaster | although theres multipe global strings for the same commands so theres probably '/cast' in other locals |
19:21.52 | Bruners | ckknight: any screens of your frames? :) |
19:22.01 | ckknight | no, and stop asking |
19:22.14 | Eternally777 | That's silly, how would I know which one to use then? |
19:22.36 | ckknight | to the users I care about, they would install it and see what it's like for themselves |
19:22.39 | ckknight | it's not finished |
19:22.42 | trh | Eternally777: the spells do have different names |
19:22.56 | ckknight | why should I take screenshots of things that aren't finished? |
19:23.42 | Eternally777 | trh: I'm referring to the command itself, not the names of the spells though. |
19:23.54 | trh | Eternally777: i think /cast works in all clients |
19:24.07 | Arrowmaster | Eternally777: try to find the globalstrings.lua for other languages and check so see if '/cast' is in other locals |
19:24.44 | CIA-11 | 03cryect * r30880 10BigBrother/ (. BigBrother.lua BigBrother.toc): BigBrother: initial commit - Tracks raid flask usage and who breaks polymorphs |
19:24.55 | renchap | /cast works with all clients |
19:26.03 | renchap | 'seen ag` |
19:26.12 | Eternally777 | 2 outta 3 works for me. |
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19:28.04 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30881 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: |
19:28.04 | CIA-11 | GrindStatus: |
19:28.04 | CIA-11 | - Pass self properly to UpdateRepItems |
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19:41.01 | [TL]Amandria | haha BigBrother sounds like some nice tool :P |
19:41.40 | trh | sounds like... Big Brother is watching you! ;) |
19:44.05 | [TL]Amandria | yeah lol |
19:44.23 | Cryect | Yeah made it a while ago heh and hadn't gotten to uploading it yet |
19:44.39 | [TL]Amandria | ok john ure kicked big brother has been watching you breaking 42 polymorphs and u didnt take ure flask last magtheridon try |
19:44.40 | [TL]Amandria | cya ^^ |
19:44.50 | Cryect | Need to think up more big brother activities to watch really |
19:44.54 | trh | Cryect: does it track fear break too? =) |
19:45.00 | FryGuy | tracks raid flask usage? :x |
19:45.03 | FryGuy | what about other pots |
19:45.08 | Cryect | not yet FryGuy |
19:45.15 | Cryect | been too lazy to make a nice gui to show you that stuff |
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19:45.25 | Hjalte | Cryect: What about shackle? :) |
19:45.28 | [TL]Amandria | Cryect, yeah maybe u could try /BB watch [BUFF NAME] so u can see who has a certain buff from pots :P |
19:46.20 | Hjalte | Does anyone know how to use WUU to update from Acesvn? |
19:46.26 | Cryect | For Elixirs I really want a gui that shows a table with checklist under the potion icons and you select either melee/caster/healing potions |
19:46.32 | Cryect | for what elixirs it shows |
19:46.38 | [TL]Amandria | that would be nikce |
19:46.40 | [TL]Amandria | nice * |
19:47.04 | [TL]Amandria | only problem would be hybrids :P |
19:47.07 | Cryect | Alright shackle and fear will have to add those not sure if the fear message pops up in dispel (well unless someoned did dispel it) |
19:47.22 | Cryect | Yeah hybrids is kinda an issue but can just show them under the appropriate ones |
19:47.30 | Cryect | I mean the person using the addon has to have some sense |
19:47.44 | [TL]Amandria | yea ^^ |
19:48.17 | Cryect | Hmmm haven't logged into my warlock in ages |
19:48.26 | [TL]Amandria | if you have a LOT of time u could make something like groups and you add chars to differend groups |
19:48.33 | [TL]Amandria | and then apply pots/flasks for theese groups |
19:53.00 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30882 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: |
19:53.00 | CIA-11 | GrindStatus: |
19:53.00 | CIA-11 | - bugfix |
19:53.39 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30883 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
19:53.40 | CIA-11 | PitBull - added profiling system, determined by local DEBUG = true at the top. Turn it off if you don't want it (it would add some lag to the system). |
19:53.40 | CIA-11 | Type /pitbull to see current results (requires Tablet-2.0) |
19:54.21 | Fisker- | THIS IS |
19:54.22 | Fisker- | PASTA |
19:54.38 | nymbia | :( |
19:55.09 | Amadeo | Have they had 2.1 PTR yet? |
19:55.20 | Fisker- | in before lurk moar |
19:56.00 | ckknight | Amadeo: nope |
19:56.05 | ckknight | Amadeo: my system works, though |
19:56.13 | Amadeo | what system?! |
19:57.22 | ckknight | my profiling system |
19:57.25 | ckknight | that I just committed |
19:57.29 | ckknight | try it out |
19:58.06 | Amadeo | ok! |
19:59.31 | Amadeo | I heard Soundgarden on the radio today, so I had to find my Superunknown CD buried somewhere :P |
20:00.35 | nymbia | nice ckknight |
20:00.51 | ckknight | nymbia: putting it on the other modules now |
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20:00.56 | ckknight | I want PitBull to be extremely efficient |
20:01.00 | ckknight | constant profiling is part of this |
20:01.25 | nymbia | yeah |
20:05.11 | kergoth | hmm, is KCET working nowadays? |
20:06.19 | Pneu | anyone that has experience in Kara, do you have Masterlooter set, and if you do, with the BoP patterns that drop will they be seen by the ML if the ML isnt a tailor but the pattern is for tailoring? |
20:06.50 | Kaelten-Laptop | kergoth: I've given it to the public domain |
20:07.13 | Amadeo | ckknight: That's wild |
20:07.16 | Kaelten-Laptop | I got tired of fighting speed issues |
20:07.19 | Amadeo | what's the wacky frame thing? the number grows |
20:07.33 | ckknight | it runs every 0.15 seconds |
20:07.34 | Cryect | yeah fear doesn't trigger a dispell message when it breaks from damage |
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20:12.16 | nymbia | and that's with all the unitframes generated.. pretty good |
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20:15.53 | Fisker- | have no experience Pneu but obviously blizzard screwed up in any case |
20:16.14 | kergoth | Kaelten-Laptop: aw. any idea if its been updated yet? that functionality is awfully useful :) |
20:17.48 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r30884 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (5 files in 2 dirs): ClosetGnome_Switcher: When losing a buff, don't swap to the default set unless we have a set registered for the buff we lost. |
20:19.37 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30885 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua WatchdogTags.lua): PitBull - fixed bug that tried to show party when raid was shown |
20:24.07 | Hjalte | ckknight: Are there any options ingame for your UF addon yet? |
20:25.10 | nymbia | doooom |
20:25.20 | Fisker- | doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed |
20:25.44 | ckknight | Hjalte: no |
20:26.12 | Fisker- | But is it me or did i see someone setting it up had testframes? :/ |
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20:28.13 | Cryect | hmm interesting so looks like Polymorph is the only CC that triggers a dispell message when its broken by damage |
20:29.11 | Groll | bah rating buster dont seem to work with standalone libs :( |
20:29.19 | Gilded | l |
20:29.28 | Amadeo | it does Groll |
20:29.32 | Amadeo | you just have to get the libs he made |
20:29.34 | Amadeo | it's not in the pack |
20:29.42 | Groll | ok but i cant seem to find the lib |
20:29.43 | Groll | [2007/03/24 21:26:44-31-x1]: RatingBuster\RatingBuster.lua:12: Cannot find a library instance of StatLogic-1.0.Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:438: in function `AceLibrary'RatingBuster\RatingBuster.lua:12: in main chunk --- |
20:30.02 | Fisker- | Well Cryect the polymorph breakage is different from fear breakage |
20:30.04 | Groll | or my update didnt work i guess :S |
20:30.15 | Fisker- | You probably don't get any dispel message with heartbeat resists on poly either |
20:30.33 | Fisker- | and i figure it's a similar system running on the fear vs. damage calculations |
20:30.35 | Amadeo | Groll: You just have to get StatLogic and TipHooker off WAU/SVN |
20:30.37 | Amadeo | and it'll work |
20:31.16 | Groll | Amadeo ya i noticed i missed the darn thing :P |
20:31.16 | Cryect | No Shackle doesn't work either Fisker |
20:31.17 | Groll | thanks |
20:31.27 | Cryect | And actually you do Fisker |
20:31.33 | Fisker- | :O |
20:31.40 | Amadeo | :) |
20:31.44 | Fisker- | Then i'm baffled and disgusted |
20:31.45 | Fisker- | :P |
20:31.53 | Amadeo | Groll: I just did it yesterday, so it's fresh in my mind :) |
20:31.59 | Cryect | Yeah its like some special option was set for polymorph to trigger dispell messages |
20:32.27 | Fisker- | Perhaps Slouken kan shed some light on it? |
20:32.46 | Cryect | I understand Fear but Shackle should work just like Polymorph |
20:33.07 | Cryect | prolly just an extra line of code added that triggers an event when polymorph break |
20:33.34 | CIA-11 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r30886 10IceHUD_Hunter/ (4 files in 2 dirs): IceHUD_Hunter : added Traps module, fixed some minor stuff |
20:33.37 | CIA-11 | 03adirelle * r30887 10BankList/ (. BankList.lua BankList.toc Libs/ localization.lua): BankList: initial commit. |
20:33.59 | kergoth | what do traps have to do with a hud? |
20:34.03 | CIA-11 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r30888 10IceHUD/ (IceBarElement.lua IceHUD.toc): icehud : fixed some minor probs |
20:34.45 | vhaarr | kergoth: HUD = Heads Up Display, it's supposed you show you the relevant information at-a-glance. |
20:34.49 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30889 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: |
20:34.49 | CIA-11 | GrindStatus: |
20:34.49 | CIA-11 | - Fix a nil error when watching no faction. |
20:34.51 | Amadeo | Once you use a HUD, you're trapped within the two parenthesis! |
20:34.51 | vhaarr | I'd say, for hunters, trap information is essential. |
20:35.00 | kergoth | i know what a hud is. and i know what traps are, but there are plenty of trap timer bar addons |
20:35.06 | kergoth | i fail to see the point of integrating it into a hud |
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20:35.47 | Cryect | why not have it in your HUD instead of timer bars |
20:35.50 | Cryect | its the same thing really |
20:36.12 | Cryect | either way I dislike HUDs and you can say there is bars for everything a HUD does |
20:36.30 | Amadeo | at least it's modular |
20:37.03 | kergoth | A hud is like a unitframe. thats like incorporating stun timers into aguf |
20:37.03 | Amadeo | I can't use HUDs..years of EQ and using default WoW UI make me auto-look to the corner as it is :P |
20:37.08 | kergoth | completely pointless |
20:37.12 | kergoth | but whatever, thats just my opinion |
20:37.23 | kergoth | whats a good shaman leveling build nowadays? |
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20:37.34 | Amadeo | I think they tell people to go Enhancement |
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20:37.41 | kergoth | my old 60 shaman isnt spec'd yet, i need to get him some rep (he's my alchemist/lw, and i need recipes) |
20:37.51 | Cryect | yeah enhancement |
20:37.52 | kergoth | yeah i figured that. elem and enh both do good damage, but enh has less downtime |
20:38.02 | Cryect | thats how all the shamans I know leveled |
20:38.11 | Amadeo | I felt like my Shaman had a lot of downtime |
20:38.19 | Amadeo | I did a lot of damage, but I took a lot of damage too |
20:38.29 | Amadeo | so I was always healing, but my mana pool was like 1500 (at 42 or so) |
20:38.29 | kergoth | i think i might level via instances mostly, since my main concern is to get my rep up to buy recipes |
20:38.30 | Andune | amadeo: I used to be the same way, tho I kept trying 'em anyway till I found ArcHUD and finally got used to it. Now I can't live w/o |
20:38.33 | kergoth | i dont really want to play him, but.. |
20:39.08 | Amadeo | Andune: The way HUDs are laid out confuse me...I think player should be left and target right, not all intertwined and stuff :P |
20:39.30 | Andune | amadeo: I found most HUDs visually distracting 'cuz I wasn't used to them. ArcHUD was first one I tried that auto-faded when not in combat, thus eliminating the visual distraction factor, and I found it really helpd w/ rogue CP's :) |
20:39.40 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30890 10PitBull/ (8 files in 8 dirs): PitBull - added wrapping to the methods around all the modules |
20:39.47 | Andune | plus MSBT parabola follows ArcHUDs, so they look very nice together :) |
20:40.00 | Amadeo | hehe |
20:40.50 | Guillotine | anybody want to give me tips on leveling my 39 rogue? He has good daggers, good swords, and good maces. His gear is just maxed out agil. But I can't figure out what the best way to level would be >< Specifically spec |
20:41.00 | Amadeo | Combat! |
20:41.07 | kergoth | combat is optimal for leveling |
20:41.21 | kergoth | either swords or maces, some wear by each |
20:41.25 | kergoth | swear, even |
20:41.27 | Andune | guillotine: everyone will tell you combat, and it's no secret it's the best leveling spec |
20:41.50 | Andune | but I prefer subtelty anyway. It's why I play the rogue. So even tho it's not as efficient, I have more fun with it, so that's what I did :) |
20:42.01 | Guillotine | hmm, alright. I was pretty sure it would be that, but couldn't figure out which of the 2 I wanted >< |
20:42.08 | vhaarr | oh god, subtlety is fun indeed |
20:42.13 | vhaarr | but combat for grinding |
20:42.15 | kergoth | yeah, fun is the important part. i'm leveling 60 to 70 as mutilate because i enjoy it, even though its not quite as efficient as combat (though close) |
20:42.17 | knarf- | so is assasination |
20:42.27 | kergoth | i was a farming machine when i was combat |
20:42.50 | Andune | yeah, but I grinded all my other toons. I just play my rogue to have fun, and when I look at it that way, I enjoy subtelty a whole lot more than grinding with combat :) |
20:42.56 | Guillotine | ya, I plan on being assass eventually, but probably not a great leveling spec |
20:43.01 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30891 10PitBull/ (Class/Class.lua HideBlizzard/HideBlizzard.lua Name/Name.lua): PitBull - bugfixing |
20:43.33 | Amadeo | I get impatient |
20:43.35 | Amadeo | I hate leveling |
20:43.44 | Amadeo | I like to be end-game and just do whatever I want |
20:43.50 | Guillotine | lol. my favorite part of the game personally :) |
20:43.53 | Guillotine | I like leveling |
20:43.59 | Andune | most people do. I'm backwards for some reason. I love leveling and hate the end-game gear grind :P |
20:44.05 | Amadeo | that's the thing |
20:44.06 | Guillotine | and I like combat close to as much as assas, or I wouldn't do it |
20:44.07 | Amadeo | I don't even grind for gear |
20:44.14 | PProvost | I enjoy leveling up. End game can be boring. |
20:44.15 | Amadeo | I Just hit 70 and do nothing, but I have more fun doing nothing than leveling :P |
20:44.24 | PProvost | You can do nothing at 20. :) |
20:44.27 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30892 10PitBull/Name/Name.lua: PitBull-Name - typo |
20:44.28 | Amadeo | haha |
20:44.30 | Andune | I was actually quite sad when my lock hit 70. I love leveling him :) |
20:44.32 | trh | i enjoy both of it for a while... the last 2 levels kinda sucked, and gear-grinding does too after the 20th run |
20:44.47 | Guillotine | especially TBC leveling. always stuff to do |
20:44.55 | Amadeo | My Rogue is 41, I need to hit 60 so I can hit Outland |
20:45.05 | PProvost | Yeah, Outland is much better. |
20:45.07 | trh | i think the leveling part is better in tbc than in non-tbc |
20:45.11 | Amadeo | I seem to burn out once I get a char to 40 |
20:45.12 | Andune | aye. I think they did a good job w/ TBC quests/zones for leveling. much more fun that running around STV for hours.. |
20:45.21 | PProvost | lol |
20:45.45 | Amadeo | How early could I hit Outlands? Should I risk it at 56-ish? |
20:45.54 | kergoth | my hunter is stalled around 41-42... was hoping to avoid grinding and stick to questing, but i'm at a weak point |
20:45.56 | Andune | I did 58. Found that was a good level |
20:46.01 | kergoth | gonna have to grind a level or 2 :| |
20:46.16 | Andune | I think pre-58 it'd be tougher to get XP in outland than old world. |
20:46.18 | Amadeo | kergoth: Sometimes I'm not sure which is better for leveling |
20:46.24 | Amadeo | Andune: Yeah, I'll try 58 :) |
20:46.40 | kergoth | i think grinding is optimal, but only if you have excellent grind spots. if you dont, a combination of grinding/questing is best |
20:46.42 | Amadeo | I'm a grinding pro, I played EQ for years, but in WoW I just don't know which is faster |
20:46.54 | Amadeo | I see |
20:46.55 | trh | kergoth: usually you can quest your whole way up to 70 |
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20:47.12 | Andune | for TBC, questing is faster, no doubt. |
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20:47.25 | Andune | pre-TBC, it depends on the quests you do. |
20:47.29 | PProvost | There are very few places where you _have_ to grind instead of quest in the old game too. But you had to move around a lot. |
20:47.58 | Amadeo | I notice that having someone help you do quests (a higher level someone) usually hurts you more than it helps |
20:48.13 | PProvost | Yep |
20:48.21 | Amadeo | because once you start questing on your own again, you don't have the level you normally would have if you did the quests yourself, due to loss of grind exp |
20:48.58 | Guillotine | this is another spec I've been looking at for rogue: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fZMxZV0ekhhoo |
20:49.01 | Guillotine | massive combo point generation |
20:49.09 | Guillotine | would work awesome on melee guys |
20:49.11 | Andune | depends on how the someone helps you. If they stay outside of party and help kill mobs after you tag them, it can be the best of both. |
20:49.26 | PProvost | For quest or XP? |
20:49.34 | Amadeo | Andune: You actually lose exp when people do that though |
20:49.40 | Andune | tho i think there's some limits to how much higher than you they can be b4 blizz starts siphoning off the XP |
20:49.40 | PProvost | For XP, as far as I can tell via experimentation, they nerfed that. |
20:49.49 | Amadeo | I notice that if I tag a mob and do damage to it, and a higher level destroys it, I lose a lot of exp |
20:49.51 | Amadeo | yeah |
20:49.57 | PProvost | Your XP is pro-rated by the amount you participate in the kill. |
20:49.59 | kergoth | imo hemo is weak unless you have substantial AP |
20:50.01 | Andune | ah, well it's been a while. and everytime people used to say it was nerfed, I'd try it out and it still worked |
20:50.01 | PProvost | As far as I can tell |
20:50.16 | Amadeo | PProvost: Yeah, I've tried it a lot |
20:50.28 | PProvost | We tried it w/ a 62 and a 41. When the 62 even touched the mob, the 41's XP went down by 50% |
20:50.35 | PProvost | Just one hit was all it took |
20:50.42 | PProvost | Un-grouped |
20:50.50 | Fisker- | It has to be done within the levelrange of the player and the mob |
20:51.03 | Andune | ah, sounds like they did nerf it then. but try it within 10 levels |
20:51.13 | Fisker- | Unless they've nerfed it further |
20:51.14 | PProvost | Sure, probably less of an impact, but still an impact. |
20:51.23 | Amadeo | I think level range plays a huge part |
20:51.28 | Andune | or even 5. I mean, if someones committed to helping you with no gain on their part, +5 levels to you is a big boost :) |
20:51.58 | Amadeo | If someone is the same level as you, I'm not sure it will hurt you |
20:51.58 | Fisker- | but atleast during my level up i got like 500-600 exp per mob when it was level 62 and 1-10 exp when it was level 61 |
20:52.08 | PProvost | Two people the same level split the XP as far as I can tell, so it hurts unless you can go twice as fast (which I think you can in many cases) |
20:52.31 | Andune | pprovost: sure, but the idea is at some point the faster kill rate cross the xp siphoning line |
20:52.39 | PProvost | Yep |
20:52.41 | PProvost | Agree |
20:52.54 | Andune | pprovost: so maybe at +10 levels, if you only lose 20% xp, but you're killing 150% faster, well hey, that's nice :) |
20:53.09 | PProvost | Ultimately, I play this game for the social aspects so I prefer to play with someone regardless. |
20:54.12 | PProvost | Hey ckknight, how far along is PitBull these days? |
20:54.20 | ckknight | reasonably |
20:54.49 | Andune | woo, ckknight finally kicked off the UF mod he was threatening to do |
20:54.57 | ckknight | yea |
20:55.07 | Andune | I look forward to trying it out :) |
20:55.14 | ckknight | just put in a profiling system to make sure everything is all nice and fast |
20:55.16 | CIA-11 | 03arrowmaster * r30893 10Bidder/Bidder.toc: Bidder: added FuBar to OptionalDeps |
20:56.15 | Arrowmaster | you wouldnt believe how confusing that was to hunt down because it wasnt showing in my friends FuBar ^^ |
20:56.25 | Andune | tho I'm sure you have your own vision of what you like, I just want to throw in that I really like agUFs layout system. I fell in love with the clean lines on one of the layouts, and even tho they're frequently broken, I just can't get used to anything else |
20:56.47 | CIA-11 | 03adirelle * r30894 10BankList/ (BankList.lua BankList.toc Libs/ localization.lua): |
20:56.47 | CIA-11 | BankList: |
20:56.47 | CIA-11 | - fixed external, |
20:56.47 | CIA-11 | - clean up locales. |
20:57.00 | PProvost | Yeah, but was what annoying was the changes to the layout system that kept breaking my custom layouts. :) |
20:57.01 | ckknight | Andune: I find agUF's layout system flawed and bloated |
20:57.15 | PProvost | That too, but I can be a pragmatist and ignore that |
20:57.40 | Andune | well, not saying the implementation was good. But I liked the concept :) |
20:57.58 | ckknight | PProvost: I'm actually considering moving to a function-based layout system |
20:58.08 | PProvost | That sounds interesting. |
20:58.12 | ckknight | where an actual function is called (that can be custom or otherwise) instead of a big table layout |
20:58.24 | PProvost | I like the sound of that. I can just hook and go then? |
20:58.27 | Fisker- | ckknight you are wrong and you should feel bad! |
20:58.28 | ckknight | advantages are that it's much more efficient |
20:58.31 | Andune | cool |
20:58.31 | PProvost | Ideally a set of functions and I can hook the one I want. |
20:58.44 | Cryect | aguf is definately bloated which results in random features breaking all the time heh not as bad wow though |
20:58.46 | PProvost | If, for example, I just want to change the font. |
20:58.47 | ckknight | and can provide complex structures like if statements |
20:59.00 | ckknight | only disadvantage I can find is that it's hard to analyze |
20:59.15 | Fisker- | btw is pitbull gonna get names for units? |
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20:59.24 | ckknight | Fisker-: I added that yesterday |
20:59.30 | Fisker- | :( |
20:59.44 | Fisker- | i suck and i should feel bad then |
20:59.56 | Fisker- | Probably gonna wait a bit until you get SLASH HANDLERS YARRR |
21:00.01 | Cryect | You like not having names? |
21:00.36 | Fisker- | Ne? No. |
21:00.40 | Cryect | heh |
21:00.44 | ckknight | Fisker-: I added a slash handler /pitbull |
21:00.46 | Fisker- | s/Ne/me/ |
21:00.48 | Fisker- | or something |
21:00.49 | Fisker- | yeah |
21:00.50 | ckknight | doesn't do what you'll think it does, though :-P |
21:01.10 | Fisker- | it actually just uses the /script gold_per_silver=0.01 command |
21:01.32 | Cryect | haha |
21:06.13 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30895 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua WatchdogTags.lua): PitBull - clear background upon :ClearUnitFrame |
21:07.22 | CIA-11 | 03mcc * r30896 10MobHealth/locals.lua: |
21:07.22 | CIA-11 | MobHealth3 : |
21:07.22 | CIA-11 | Modify locals.lua add Traditional Chinese translation |
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21:08.15 | PProvost | Hey Adirelle, I'm just looking at CastYeller. Any thought about making the spells/messages configurable instead of hard coded? |
21:08.47 | Adirelle | PProvost: headache ? |
21:08.49 | Adirelle | :p |
21:08.58 | PProvost | e.g. /castyeller <spell> <success|fail> <message> |
21:09.08 | PProvost | Just asking... |
21:09.09 | PProvost | :) |
21:09.16 | PProvost | If you aren't thinking about it, that is fine. |
21:09.30 | Adirelle | PProvost: btw would it allow to add new spell ? |
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21:09.55 | PProvost | I would like to be able to add a new spell and/or new messages to spells. |
21:10.00 | PProvost | Or remove them, etc. |
21:10.05 | PProvost | No hard coding at all |
21:10.24 | PProvost | S'okay... just thought I'd ask since I saw you here. |
21:10.52 | Adirelle | Well, I thought about it, and I decided to not allow it, to keep the thing simple |
21:11.12 | Adirelle | but I think it wouldn't be too hard to make an extension that could allow to do it |
21:13.51 | art3mis | Someone yells GOD FUCKING DAMMIT YOU STUPID MUTHERFUCKING USELESS WHOREBAG CUMDUMPSTER SPELL STOPPING FUCKING FAILING ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME GOOD GOD BLIZZARD! |
21:13.57 | art3mis | yeah hardcode em ;P |
21:14.12 | PProvost | ummm... ok |
21:14.32 | Austerity | wow hi |
21:14.34 | art3mis | actually addons taht say and yell stuff when they cast sort of annoy me |
21:14.57 | art3mis | kind of like those retarded ones that emote about being low in healthor needing a heal |
21:15.05 | PProvost | I guess I might just need to wait until Iriel updates AfterCast |
21:15.31 | art3mis | but thats just me |
21:15.34 | art3mis | ;) |
21:15.45 | PProvost | Do you play a support class? |
21:15.49 | art3mis | im a priest |
21:16.23 | PProvost | And your mates don't find that kind of stuff useful? (I mean when you announce stuff you're doing that they might care about.) |
21:17.36 | chutwig | oh i do hope gruul drops warlock token tonight |
21:17.42 | chutwig | voidheart underoos! |
21:17.44 | PProvost | good luck |
21:17.59 | chutwig | imbued netherweave is getting a little long in the tooth |
21:19.40 | art3mis | ppv: nope i just cast.. and i dont need thier help to tell me who needs healing ;P |
21:20.43 | art3mis | not to mention ive got a res monitor(as does the rest of the priests and shammys and pallys) |
21:21.04 | art3mis | to each thier own though |
21:22.40 | xyu | nothing worse than random cast messages. "I'm casting heal on x" alla castparty. |
21:22.51 | xyu | or like "The sheep goes baaa" |
21:22.56 | xyu | from that one mage addon |
21:23.04 | xyu | spams whenever sheeping, casting teles |
21:24.17 | kergoth | does http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hE0zZxVc0Exsiuqo look somewhat sane for a leveling build? not that familiar with the new shaman talents |
21:24.29 | kebinusan | hmm any screenshots of pitbull |
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21:27.04 | chutwig | looks okay to me |
21:27.09 | chutwig | i would take 2h axes and maces anyway |
21:27.15 | chutwig | even if you plan to dw most of the time |
21:27.23 | vhaarr | is imp. lightning shield really worth it? |
21:27.32 | vhaarr | I'd take 2h instead of 1/3 at least |
21:27.35 | chutwig | only if you're religious about keeping it up |
21:27.39 | vhaarr | ye |
21:27.54 | chutwig | personally i don't because i think it costs too much mana |
21:27.58 | vhaarr | I agree |
21:28.27 | vhaarr | 2h + one of the totem talents instead imo |
21:28.36 | chutwig | guardian totems is decent |
21:28.46 | chutwig | as a warlock i can tell you that i fucking hate grounding totem |
21:28.57 | vhaarr | all spellcasters do |
21:29.20 | chutwig | i hate it especially because it tends to eat my only method of instantly clearing some space between me and them |
21:29.49 | Relapse | lol yeah, I used to dual my shaman mate alot (I'm an UD Priest), and the amount of times that grounding totem ate my Devouring Plague ( |
21:31.50 | chutwig | i hate fighting rogues, especially undead rogues and warriors |
21:31.53 | chutwig | those are usually losing battles |
21:31.58 | chutwig | shamans are my next least favorite |
21:32.02 | chutwig | most other classes are a wash |
21:34.01 | Austerity | is there a hotky to switch between full/window? |
21:34.46 | kebinusan | yea |
21:34.51 | kebinusan | I cant stand rogues in arenas |
21:34.55 | kebinusan | though I play a warlock |
21:34.57 | komodo | why? |
21:35.10 | chutwig | undead rogues are awfu |
21:35.15 | kebinusan | blind, insane damage with mutilate, cloak of skill, wotf |
21:35.20 | Austerity | laff |
21:35.21 | chutwig | 10 seconds of immunity to my only method of CC |
21:35.23 | kebinusan | and a pvp trinket to get out of fear |
21:36.11 | komodo | wow, interesting that I picked pvp classes randomly. I just started wow and my first two chars are an undead rogue and a tauren shaman |
21:36.27 | komodo | though I guess those are common choices |
21:36.40 | chutwig | there's not much i can do against an undead rogue or warrior |
21:36.45 | Pneu | troll shaman used to be the common choice, but taurens are ace because of mulgore |
21:36.56 | Austerity | as are human palidin as are every class now |
21:36.56 | kebinusan | oh and wound poison is insanely OP |
21:36.59 | chutwig | my shaman was orc |
21:37.07 | kebinusan | considering MS is talented it at least offers some balance |
21:37.07 | Amadeo | Grounding Totem is more of a pain in the ass in group PvP, but 1v1 it's not bad |
21:37.08 | komodo | mulgore, isn't that the starting area? |
21:37.09 | Amadeo | you just wand it |
21:37.20 | Pneu | mulgore is the cow starting area, yeh |
21:37.36 | chutwig | it's not that easy to wand when you're getting crit in the back of the head by windfury |
21:37.56 | kebinusan | chutwig: what class you play? |
21:37.57 | komodo | and it's one of the better ones I suppose? |
21:38.08 | chutwig | kebinusan: hoomin warlock |
21:38.09 | Pneu | its my 3rd favorite lol |
21:38.10 | komodo | starting areas that is |
21:38.20 | kebinusan | the most annoying things about grounding totems for me is that deathcoil doesnt do damage to kill them |
21:38.23 | Pneu | no, 2nd favorite actually |
21:38.23 | chutwig | former recovering paladin |
21:38.25 | kebinusan | they just get OMG immune |
21:38.30 | kebinusan | chutwig: heh same here |
21:38.31 | komodo | what's first? |
21:38.39 | Pneu | Azuremyst Isle now |
21:38.42 | kebinusan | still I hate rogues more |
21:38.51 | chutwig | i hate rogues because of the surprise factor |
21:38.56 | komodo | is taht Draenei? |
21:39.05 | chutwig | by the time you can act you're mostly dead, even with 9k hp |
21:39.35 | Pneu | yeh komodo |
21:39.40 | chutwig | but i take consolidation in turning belfadins into dust |
21:39.41 | kebinusan | yeah, I had really hoped stamina boosts in TBC would balance PVP and get rid of the whole burst nuking, but the stam increase barely kept up with the damage increases |
21:39.43 | chutwig | ...consolation |
21:40.03 | chutwig | some paladin lands on the stadium in hellfire, i open up for 3.2k and 3.6k |
21:40.09 | chutwig | he gets his shield off with 70 hp left |
21:41.32 | chutwig | does feel good to be on the other side of the bullshit big numbers for once |
21:42.10 | Pneu | hmm, i am feeling the need to write a DKPmon plugin that uses ItemLevelDKP to get its values |
21:45.13 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30897 10PitBull/Health/Health.lua: PitBull-Health - healthbar is now colored by hostility |
21:47.15 | TecnoBrat | Do the Ace2 libraries have a nice way to handle debugging output? |
21:47.49 | vhaarr | AceDebug? |
21:48.46 | chuckg | self:SetDebugging(true); self:Debug("Message"); |
21:48.59 | TecnoBrat | hmmm wow, I'm blind |
21:50.33 | TecnoBrat | thnaks |
21:51.04 | Kirkburn | Request! Can people help update this, especially those involved with raid addons! http://www.wowwiki.com/Raid |
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21:52.18 | ZealotOnAStick | http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/03/23/microsoft-sends-the-gift-of-beer-to-show-off-the-price-difference-between-the-360-and-ps3 |
21:52.33 | Pneu | lol Kirkburn, worst wiki article ever |
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21:53.02 | Kirkburn | :P |
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21:54.06 | Prophh | anyone here use simpleraid? |
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22:02.53 | stavmar | well they look good anyways? |
22:03.19 | stavmar | nymbia: you present nymbia? |
22:03.28 | harldephin | oO |
22:03.46 | nymbia | stavmar: ? |
22:03.52 | stavmar | GrindStatus-0.1\GrindStatus.lua:489: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'step' (a nil value) |
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22:04.14 | stavmar | got that error twice when logging in, just doenloaded the latest revision via the WAU |
22:04.26 | stavmar | downloaded* |
22:04.54 | Funkeh` | fix it then |
22:05.17 | stavmar | if i knew how to write code like you guys, I would. |
22:05.30 | Funkeh` | blame nymbia then |
22:05.52 | nymbia | which faction is set as your xp bar |
22:06.05 | stavmar | at the moment Consortium |
22:06.21 | yacoob | Argh. |
22:06.22 | stavmar | http://ace.pastey.net/9191 another error popped up when clicking the fubar text? |
22:06.27 | yacoob | What do people use nowadays for warlocks? |
22:06.36 | yacoob | mostly for quick stones usage/dispense? |
22:06.40 | stavmar | Necromonicon 2 and shardace |
22:06.50 | yacoob | back in ancient times I had this titanbar plugin... :D |
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22:11.59 | Arrowmaster | for quick stone usage/dispense i use autobar and ritual of souls |
22:12.45 | Funkeh` | cryect: seems they changed it |
22:13.12 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r30898 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: |
22:13.12 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon: |
22:13.12 | CIA-11 | - count abyssal's |
22:13.13 | CIA-11 | - reduce throttling time for heal and abyssal |
22:13.13 | CIA-11 | - decrease time until first blast nova |
22:13.13 | CIA-11 | - reduce time of mind exhaustion bars to 90 seconds |
22:16.47 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30899 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: |
22:16.47 | CIA-11 | GrindStatus: |
22:16.47 | CIA-11 | - Fix item value pattern. |
22:23.43 | Pneu | does anyone here use Fixed Cost Zero Sum with DKPmon? |
22:24.18 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r30900 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: |
22:24.18 | CIA-11 | GrindStatus: |
22:24.18 | CIA-11 | - Fix another nil. |
22:30.10 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30901 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua WatchdogTags.lua): PitBull-Health - updates to the health bar color |
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22:32.11 | Kaelten-Laptop | kergoth: not sure :s |
22:34.18 | Amadeo | Planet Earth is on tonight, on Discovery at 8 PM EST :) |
22:34.27 | kergoth | nice |
22:34.56 | Amadeo | I love wildlife shit :D |
22:34.59 | Amadeo | well |
22:35.02 | Amadeo | not literally that part, but you know |
22:35.32 | Kaelten-Laptop | just a heads up guys, I'm going to be looking for a application developer in the relatively near future. |
22:37.40 | ckknight | web-based or client-based? |
22:37.52 | Kaelten-Laptop | client |
22:38.43 | ckknight | okay |
22:38.56 | ckknight | language/platform? |
22:39.10 | Kaelten-Laptop | kinda up to what kinda help I can find :) |
22:40.23 | ckknight | well, I might be interested, depending on the project, which would dictate the amount of time would need to go into it |
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23:00.19 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30902 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull-Aura - bugfix and optimization |
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23:03.54 | chutwig | hmm |
23:04.11 | chutwig | my aguf raid groups look a bit messed up, it just makes blank frames rather than actually filling them in with health bars |
23:04.44 | ckknight | chutwig: I've been BGing with PitBull ;-) |
23:05.07 | chutwig | i don't really need to see them now anyway because i'm not healing |
23:05.09 | chutwig | but it's still nice |
23:05.43 | Nickenyfiken | gonna try PitBull again now... didnt even load when i tried earlier today :-/ |
23:05.54 | Amadeo | it's been working for me! |
23:07.17 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: it should load, I added libraries |
23:07.33 | Nickenyfiken | [2007/03/25 00:06:40-2022-x1]: PitBull\PitBull.lua:3: Cannot find a library instance of SharedMedia-1.0. |
23:07.40 | Nickenyfiken | only PitBull and bugsack running |
23:08.03 | ckknight | did you get the libraries? |
23:08.37 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r30903 10sct/ (install.txt readme.txt sct.lua sct.toc sct_event_config.lua): |
23:08.37 | CIA-11 | sct: Added Spell Name option. |
23:08.37 | CIA-11 | Added Truncating or Abbrevating of spell/buff names. |
23:08.37 | CIA-11 | Changed buff/debuff events to use SpecialEventsLib; allows for much better buff and debuff tracking. |
23:08.37 | CIA-11 | Added Test Button. |
23:08.38 | CIA-11 | Removed Light Mode. |
23:08.40 | CIA-11 | Added new Custom Event Buff types for much easier buff/debuff event tracking; see sct_event_config.lua for more info. |
23:08.47 | CIA-11 | 03mcc * r30904 10ACP/ (ACP.toc localization-zhTW.lua): |
23:08.47 | CIA-11 | ACP: |
23:08.49 | CIA-11 | add localization-zhTW.lua: Add Traditional Chinese Translation |
23:08.51 | CIA-11 | modify ACP.toc: add Traditional Chinese support |
23:09.03 | Nickenyfiken | yup i checked that... ill try with a SVN checkout instead if zip |
23:09.04 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r30905 10sct_options/ (10 files): |
23:09.04 | CIA-11 | sct_options: Added Spell Name option. |
23:09.04 | CIA-11 | Added Truncating or Abbrevating of spell/buff names. |
23:09.04 | CIA-11 | Changed buff/debuff events to use SpecialEventsLib; allows for much better buff and debuff tracking. |
23:09.04 | CIA-11 | Added Test Button. |
23:09.06 | CIA-11 | Removed Light Mode. |
23:09.08 | CIA-11 | Added new Custom Event Buff types for much easier buff/debuff event tracking; see sct_event_config.lua for more info. |
23:09.28 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: in libs, does SharedMedia-1.0 show up? |
23:09.38 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r30906 10sctd/ (install.txt readme.txt sctd.lua sctd.toc): sctd: Added Spell/Skill shortening (uses SCT settings) |
23:10.03 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r30907 10sctd_options/ (8 files): sctd_options: Added Spell/Skill shortening (uses SCT settings) |
23:10.03 | Amadeo | hm, sct updates |
23:10.17 | Amadeo | How does SCT resource use compare to MSBT these days? |
23:13.00 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: yep |
23:13.42 | ckknight | and check the .toc, does it seem to match correctly? |
23:13.51 | Nickenyfiken | stupid tortoise killed my explorer |
23:13.53 | Nickenyfiken | wait a sec |
23:16.23 | Nickenyfiken | libs/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua hmm does it work with both types of slashes? |
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23:17.43 | Nickenyfiken | not thats the problem |
23:17.47 | Nickenyfiken | found another problem too |
23:18.00 | Nickenyfiken | AceModulecore is missing from libs |
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23:18.37 | ckknight | ah, okay |
23:19.12 | Amadeo | oh, standalone was saving me I guess |
23:20.11 | Nickenyfiken | yup |
23:20.12 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30908 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull.toc libs/): |
23:20.12 | CIA-11 | PitBull - added AceModuleCore-2.0 to libs. |
23:20.12 | CIA-11 | - fixed slashes in TOC |
23:23.47 | Nickenyfiken | yay |
23:24.27 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: you also changed the / to \ in the URL ^^ |
23:24.41 | Amadeo | \o/ |
23:25.10 | ckknight | ( º Y º ) |
23:25.10 | Amadeo | haha |
23:25.15 | JJSheets | Woot |
23:25.21 | Funkeh` | ckknight, nearly as big as you mums |
23:25.22 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: what are you talking about? |
23:25.35 | ckknight | actually my mom is pretty flat |
23:25.48 | Nickenyfiken | ## X-Website: http:\\ckknight.wowinterface.com\ |
23:25.53 | ckknight | oh |
23:25.54 | Nickenyfiken | well its working perfectly now |
23:25.55 | ckknight | whoops |
23:26.29 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r30909 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: PitBull - fix slashes in website in toc |
23:27.41 | Cryect | Big fix! |
23:27.53 | cladhaire | whats the kindest way to add lines to the unit tooltip? |
23:27.54 | Cryect | better all go get that revision :p |
23:27.59 | Nickenyfiken | hehe nice performance monitor |
23:28.24 | Nickenyfiken | only 0.078 KiB used |
23:29.03 | Nickenyfiken | nvm |
23:29.18 | Cryect | heh |
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23:36.36 | Kemayo | nymbia: PeriodicTable-3.0 doesn't seem to include required lockpicking skill on lockboxes any more. :( |
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23:44.39 | GrandMaso | Who thinks friendship results of a search of reciprocity domination relationship? |
23:46.00 | Cryect | what? |
23:46.15 | kergoth | i'll second that. what? |
23:46.30 | Amadeo | He said, only 14 minutes until Planet Earth on Discovery! |
23:46.48 | JJSheets | Wo thinks GrandMaso should speak plain English instead of some crackpot psycho babble? |
23:47.05 | Cryect | Well I kinda understand what he just said but why besides you apparently like big words or a thesaurus |
23:47.12 | GrandMaso | My english is as bad as my spanish; sorry |
23:47.17 | JJSheets | lol |
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23:48.46 | Lysistrata | Hi |
23:48.57 | Amadeo | You had me at hello |
23:49.02 | JJSheets | lol |
23:49.06 | Lysistrata | -.-" |
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23:50.48 | Lysistrata | Anyone just a quick question is there some easy way to disable the minimap icon a ACE Based Mod did create? I just can't seem to figure out which methods to are use to setup a minimap icon so I can't lookup what would reverse the effect. |
23:50.52 | ravagernl | hey guys |
23:52.06 | Lysistrata | hi |
23:52.17 | ravagernl | lysistrata: right click it, and click hide plugin if the addon allows it |
23:52.41 | ravagernl | oh and ace sould be written as Ace, not ACE :P |
23:53.16 | Amadeo | ACE is the place |
23:53.20 | Lysistrata | It doesn't allow it, it just allows me to enable/disable and yeha ok wasn't sure :) |
23:53.38 | ravagernl | ok, what addon is it? |
23:53.49 | Lysistrata | SilverDragon |
23:56.25 | Daagar | That's odd... I have SilverDragon set to FuBar, not on minimap |
23:56.27 | Prophh | so what is pitbull ?? |
23:56.32 | Daagar | so I'd assume it has such an option |
23:57.12 | Daagar | sounds like it is a new set of unit frames Prophh |
23:57.23 | Daagar | been hoping to see screenies |
23:58.15 | Cryect | Don't think its really at the point to see screenies of from the sounds of it |
23:59.19 | Daagar | would explain why there aren't any :) |
23:59.33 | Lysistrata | There isn't an option on the default "options " screen Daagar but SilverDragon:Hide() does the "Trick" it seems :) |