irclog2html for #wowace on 20070323

`00:00.09`	`art3mis`	`they put her in out of those headcones so she doesnt chew on the dressing`
`00:00.13`	`art3mis`	`and shes REALLY pissed at the cone`
`00:00.26`	`art3mis`	`if it stops her from walking somewhere she growls at it`
`00:00.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well wouldn't you be? :P`
`00:00.50`	`ravagernl`	`poor thing :(`
`00:01.11`	`ckknight`	`ravagernl: not sure, take a look in Glory's code`
`00:01.31`	`ravagernl`	`guess what im doing right now ck`
`00:01.33`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`00:01.39`	`ckknight`	`ravagernl: masturbating?`
`00:01.47`	`art3mis`	`im sad she lost half her tail buit its pretty funny watching her wander around with the cone on`
`00:01.48`	`ravagernl`	`XD`
`00:01.50`	`ckknight`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5339.40`
`00:02.03`	`art3mis`	`oh btw where do i train 226-300 cooking again?`
`00:02.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`tanaris`
`00:02.12`	`ravagernl`	`I wouldn't call coding addons "sexy'`
`00:02.31`	`art3mis`	`danke`
`00:02.31`	`chutwig`	`ohohoho`
`00:02.34`	`chutwig`	`doomguard 1, guild rogue 0`
`00:03.14`	`ckknight`	`I do want to get a good name for this addon`
`00:03.26`	`*** join/#wowace JJSheets (n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com)`
`00:04.06`	`chutwig`	`sexcopter mcgee?`
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`00:04.32`	`art3mis`	`call it Drapes: The Pretty way to enchance your Window Frames`
`00:04.40`	`ravagernl`	`ckknight: UNIT_PVP_UPDATE maybe`
`00:04.45`	`ckknight`	`that'd probably be it`
`00:04.57`	`ckknight`	`Drapes doesn't seem like a UF, though`
`00:05.01`	`Bruners`	`ckuf`
`00:05.05`	`ckknight`	`and it's not manly enough`
`00:05.06`	`ckknight`	`no, Bruners`
`00:05.38`	`art3mis`	`Oak Frames?`
`00:05.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I'm still a fan of Mainframe`
`00:05.57`	`art3mis`	`you could name it Steve`
`00:06.03`	`ckknight`	`no need to have "frame" in it`
`00:06.04`	`art3mis`	`thats pretty manly`
`00:06.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ooh, i like STeve, too`
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`00:06.07`	`Bruners`	`ckknight: didnt read your post :)`
`00:06.17`	`ckknight`	`and Mainframe, while manly, seems bloated`
`00:06.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ckknight: no, of course no need, but mainframe is actually a word in an of itself :P`
`00:06.31`	`art3mis`	`Steve MainFrame: UF extraordinaire!`
`00:06.44`	`ravagernl`	`hmm, I guess they removed that event, reading on wowwiki, they say I should use UNIT_FACTION`
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`02:06.01`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30749 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add extremely basic aura support. There's no real positioning yet, so they're all attached to the bottom of the frame. It's also not as efficient as it could be.`
`02:06.19`	`Kaelten`	`what does 120kbits/s translate to mbits/s?`
`02:06.34`	`Cryect`	`0.12 approximately`
`02:06.36`	`ckknight`	`divide by 1024`
`02:06.42`	`ckknight`	`~120/1024`
`02:06.43`	`purl`	`0.1171875`
`02:06.57`	`Cryect`	`and there you go`
`02:07.24`	`Kaelten`	`:s`
`02:08.39`	`OverloadUT`	`The problem I'm having with my code (http://ace.pastey.net/9004) is that the hooked function does not return any values, when it should`
`02:08.54`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: A generic function watcher would be something like function HookedFunc(...) local numargs = select('#',...); for i = 1,numargs do print("arg # " .. i .. " type: " .. type( select(i, ...) ) .. " value: " .. tostring( type( select(i, ...) ); end return OriginalHookedFunc(...) end`
`02:09.32`	`OverloadUT`	`Thrae: Yeah I have that part of it working, but I also need to know what OriginalHookedFunc() is returning`
`02:09.45`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: make sure auras can be disabled entirely on a given type of frame.. i've noticed you cant do that in aguf, only filter them, which is quite annoying if you wanted to use a seperate addon for buff display of units`
`02:09.49`	`OverloadUT`	`So I store that in a local var, play with what's in it, and then return that unpacked var`
`02:09.55`	`OverloadUT`	`But it's not returning that unpacked var apparently`
`02:10.30`	`ckknight`	`kergoth: I suppose so. I still want to properly modularize it so that auras are handled in a separate module`
`02:10.37`	`kergoth`	`thatd be good too`
`02:11.00`	`knarf-`	`ckknight being able to see Mortal Strike as a debuff is quite nice too :P`
`02:11.13`	`ckknight`	`I don't know what that is`
`02:11.56`	`knarf-`	`hate when I enable filters in aguf to only show the ones that I can cure, that I can't see if they have Mortal Strike :<`
`02:12.15`	`Cryect`	`yeah that sucks`
`02:12.29`	`Cryect`	`You need to be able to configure what you want filtered`
`02:12.45`	`knarf-`	`Exactly :)`
`02:12.46`	`Cryect`	`and there should also be something that tells you number based for hidden debuffs so you can see total the number of buffs on the target`
`02:13.05`	`knarf-`	`and i'm gonna go to bed now :D`
`02:13.11`	`knarf-`	`g'nite`
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`02:13.27`	`kergoth`	`a buff display should let you choose what to show and what not to show, as well as allow flexible groupings of buffs/debuffs, and be able to scale up certain groups or buffs/debuffs to make them more obvious and stuff`
`02:13.40`	`kergoth`	`imo`
`02:13.59`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: local t= {}; t[1],t[2],t[3],t[4],t[5],t[6],t[7],t[8],t[9],t[10],t[11],t[12],t[13],t[14],t[15],t[16],t[17],t[18],t[19],t[20] = OriginalFunc(...); for k,v in pairs(t) do print( etc. ) end return unpack(t) end`
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`02:14.04`	`kergoth`	`which is why i think it works better as a seperate addon/module, its a lot to have in the unitframes`
`02:14.28`	`ckknight`	`Thrae: um, local t = { OriginalFunc(...) }`
`02:14.41`	`OverloadUT`	`Yeah that's what I'm doing currently`
`02:14.44`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: Yeah I didn't know if you could do that`
`02:14.45`	`OverloadUT`	`ckknight's way`
`02:14.54`	`ckknight`	`kergoth: well, having it componentized would make it easier to manage`
`02:15.01`	`ckknight`	`imagine Cartographer all in one file`
`02:15.03`	`ckknight`	`dear Jesus`
`02:15.14`	`ckknight`	`just too unwieldy`
`02:15.15`	`kergoth`	`you'll want to store select('#', ...) in t.n or so, unless you dont want to capture trailing nils`
`02:15.17`	`CIA-11`	`03arcuss * r30750 10HunterAEP/ (5 files):`
`02:15.17`	`CIA-11`	`HunterAEP: initial commit`
`02:15.17`	`CIA-11`	`- Calculates Agility Equivalence Points for items.`
`02:15.32`	`OverloadUT`	`Does select('#', tablevar) not work on tables? Only ...?`
`02:15.35`	`ckknight`	`splitting into multiple different modules is just so much simpler`
`02:15.40`	`ckknight`	`OverloadUT: #tablevar`
`02:16.15`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: for k,v in pairs(t) do print( k .. " " .. tostring(v) ) end <-- this does nothing?`
`02:16.37`	`Kaelten`	`I really don't think we've used 4TB :s`
`02:16.53`	`OverloadUT`	`Thrae: I'm getting a little progress. It looks like it's storing return values and it's returning them usually... but not always, for some reason`
`02:16.56`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten: bandwidth?`
`02:17.19`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: return unpack(t) <-- isn't working?`
`02:17.21`	`nymbia`	`select('#') is for the number of returns. so you COULD do select('#'.unpack(t))`
`02:17.39`	`kergoth`	`yep, but it wouldnt capture the results, you'd have to unpack twice :P`
`02:18.14`	`nymbia`	`icky`
`02:18.16`	`nymbia`	`;)`
`02:18.20`	`Kaelten`	`ckknight: ya :s`
`02:18.27`	`OverloadUT`	`Thrae: It does appear to be working. It's weird. I'm hooking every single quest function, and it is not interfereing with the Blizzard quest frame, but QuestsFu for example is totally broken`
`02:18.43`	`OverloadUT`	`But the way it's coded, it SHOULD be 100% transparant and not affect anything`
`02:19.07`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: What is broken about QuestsFu?`
`02:20.07`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: Are you getting any errors?`
`02:20.29`	`OverloadUT`	`It's displaying 0 quests and Quixote is erroring out with a nil error. If I disable my mod with a billion hooks, it works fine`
`02:21.04`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30751 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - nil out the text values and textures on recycle (so it's not kept in memory needlessly)`
`02:21.08`	`OverloadUT`	`It's hard to tell, but I assume it's because I'm not returning anything from my hooks... but only when QuestsFu calls them and it's fine when the Blizzard frame calls them? That seems weird.`
`02:21.36`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`ck: PitBull using SurfaceLib/SML?`
`02:21.42`	`ckknight`	`SML`
`02:21.52`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: Something else may be hooking the function too`
`02:21.54`	`ckknight`	`currently just fetches the blizzard texture, though`
`02:22.04`	`ckknight`	`ZealotOnAStick: I also made it so SML and SurfaceLib share data`
`02:22.06`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`'k. I'll have to go take a look at SharedMedia in a bit and see what textures need to be added.`
`02:22.24`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`ckknight: how so?`
`02:22.30`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Will SML pick up Surfaces?`
`02:22.32`	`ckknight`	`magic!`
`02:22.37`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`02:22.42`	`ckknight`	`under the 'statusbar' type`
`02:22.52`	`ckknight`	`and if SML registers a 'statusbar', SurfaceLib will register it`
`02:23.02`	`OverloadUT`	`But even if something else is hooking it, that shouldn't affect me. All I do is look at the values passed in and return vales, and go on my merry way. So if someone else hooks it the worst that should happen is I don't get to see the values, but I'm fine with that`
`02:23.09`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`ok. Still going to at least stick one texture I saw missing from SharedMedia in there, just to be sure.`
`02:23.35`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`02:24.01`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`will get to it in a bit after we're done playing with Magtheridon.`
`02:24.16`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: What's your current code again`
`02:24.20`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`You know, I should probably bother to get around installing TortoiseSVN on this system too.`
`02:24.52`	`OverloadUT`	`http://ace.pastey.net/9004`
`02:25.17`	`OverloadUT`	`Except now I'm doing #returnvals instead of select('#', returnvals)`
`02:27.54`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: Try doing it without AceHook and see if that makes a difference`
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`02:28.56`	`CIA-11`	`03toadkiller * r30752 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc AutoBarItemList.lua Core.lua):`
`02:28.57`	`CIA-11`	`AutoBar:`
`02:28.57`	`CIA-11`	`-- crash fix in update`
`02:28.57`	`CIA-11`	`-- Sort weapon poisons`
`02:28.57`	`CIA-11`	`-- Remove deprecated "Alterac Valley" potions. Use PvP potions instead.`
`02:28.57`	`CIA-11`	`-- Reinstated Anesthetic poison category. It is like instant but has no extra aggro & is cheaper apparently.`
`02:28.57`	`CIA-11`	`-- 18045:12 Tender Wolf Steak`
`02:29.09`	`ckknight`	`mmm... steak`
`02:29.49`	`Symian`	`Hi. My escapades through learning to make UI's in WoW continue. Is there a list of edgeFiles, such as Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Border?`
`02:29.58`	`Symian`	`Or even better, what is Interface/Tooltips/ referring to?`
`02:30.02`	`ckknight`	`possibly, on wowwiki somewhere`
`02:30.08`	`Symian`	`I mean, is that a real world file I can look at?`
`02:30.12`	`ckknight`	`Interface\Tooltips\ is a folder inside the mpq`
`02:30.18`	`ckknight`	`get WinMPQ`
`02:30.20`	`ckknight`	`or MyRoleplay`
`02:30.25`	`ckknight`	`or something`
`02:30.32`	`Symian`	`Oooooh. It might finally be time to extract an MPQ`
`02:30.36`	`Symian`	`I've been waiting for this moment`
`02:30.41`	`Symian`	`Thanks.`
`02:33.25`	`Kaelten`	`well son of a bitch and 95 percentile sucks`
`02:34.05`	`ckknight`	`?`
`02:34.42`	`Kaelten`	`looks like two weeks ago for a short burst of time someone raped the site hard`
`02:34.49`	`ckknight`	`ick`
`02:34.56`	`ckknight`	`wasn't me`
`02:34.59`	`Kaelten`	`pushed traffic up to ~40mbits/s`
`02:35.02`	`ckknight`	`holy hell`
`02:35.16`	`Kaelten`	`ya`
`02:35.17`	`JoshBorke`	`wow`
`02:35.32`	`CIA-11`	`03arcuss * r30753 10HunterAEP/Libs/:`
`02:35.33`	`CIA-11`	`HunterAEP:`
`02:35.33`	`CIA-11`	`-Adding Externals`
`02:35.35`	`Kaelten`	`so result it bumped the 95th percentile up a decent bit.`
`02:35.41`	`JoshBorke`	`definitely`
`02:35.50`	`JoshBorke`	`i didn't realize there was that much to download off the site`
`02:35.58`	`Kaelten`	`me either :S`
`02:36.12`	`Kaelten`	`must have literally downloaded the entire addon library at once.`
`02:36.32`	`ckknight`	`wait, for just a few seconds/minutes?`
`02:36.45`	`ckknight`	`or for like how long?`
`02:37.33`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten: got rid of the brackets :-P`
`02:37.44`	`Kaelten`	`I'm not sure exactly I got to look at that day's log`
`02:38.00`	`Symian`	`Anyone know which MPQ the border images are kept in? I'm looking, I swear, but I have no idea what I'm looking for.`
`02:38.58`	`CIA-11`	`03trh * r30754 10VanasKoS/modules/ (DefaultLists.lua WarnFrame.lua): VanasKoS: small change to the warnframe to make the code more cpu-time friendly and added created date to the mouseover info`
`02:39.11`	`ckknight`	`Symian: common, probably`
`02:39.26`	`Symian`	`ckknight, WinMPW won't open it...`
`02:39.29`	`OverloadUT`	`Thrae: Ugh, finally did it without AceHook, same problem`
`02:39.32`	`Symian`	`WinMPPQ*`
`02:39.38`	`ckknight`	`Symian: I don't know.`
`02:39.46`	`Symian`	`Ah. Ok, thanks anyway.`
`02:40.11`	`Symian`	`I'm starting to think you add-on developers work via magic. :-\`
`02:40.18`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: http://ace.pastey.net/9009`
`02:40.35`	`ckknight`	`no, you've discovered our secret!`
`02:40.44`	`Symian`	`Heh`
`02:42.40`	`OverloadUT`	`Thrae: What does handler do?`
`02:42.58`	`Thrae`	`OverloadUT: whoops, take that out`
`02:44.36`	`JoshBorke`	`any mods that take shiftclicks?`
`02:44.43`	`JoshBorke`	`erm, that let you input an itemlink?`
`02:52.05`	`Kaelten`	`looks like 13:56-14:55 there was a large surge of traffic on the 7th`
`02:52.28`	`nymbia`	`Kaelten: from one person or?`
`02:52.31`	`Kaelten`	`with the peak being at about 14:00`
`02:52.42`	`Kaelten`	`nymbia not sure, I've just narrowed down what time I need to look at`
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`02:53.54`	`OverloadUT`	`How do you assign a variable based on a string?`
`02:54.04`	`OverloadUT`	`I mean, the value of the string should be the variable name`
`02:54.29`	`Kaelten`	`setglobal(string, value)?`
`02:54.36`	`Kaelten`	`or array[string]=value?`
`02:54.49`	`OverloadUT`	`setglobal, that looks like what I want to do`
`02:55.08`	`OverloadUT`	`Thrae gave me some code to try out but he did getglobal("blar") = function() ... end which throws an error`
`02:55.25`	`Kaelten`	`I'm guessing that this 1173276077.493`
`02:55.28`	`Kaelten`	`is a time stamp`
`02:55.50`	`OverloadUT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:55.50`	`OverloadUT`	`:D`
`02:55.59`	`OverloadUT`	`Most likely since it's so close`
`02:56.06`	`ckknight`	`setglobal("blar", function() thingy end)`
`02:56.09`	`OverloadUT`	`Would be pretty damn unlikely if it were anything else, heh`
`02:56.14`	`ckknight`	`or even better: _G["blar"] = function() thingy end`
`02:58.43`	`OverloadUT`	`Okay Thrae I implemented your function to do the hooking, and exact same behavior :P`
`02:59.39`	`OverloadUT`	`Does anyone else know why a function hooked with this method would ever for any reason return something different than it would if it weren't hooked? http://ace.pastey.net/9012`
`02:59.42`	`OverloadUT`	`Makes no sense! :(`
`02:59.56`	`Kaelten`	`now I just need to know the time stamp around 14:00`
`03:00.40`	`OverloadUT`	`Kaelten: http://www.unixtimestamp.com/index.php`
`03:01.16`	`JoshBorke`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:01.17`	`JoshBorke`	`:-D`
`03:02.29`	`Kaelten`	`:)`
`03:02.30`	`chutwig`	`epoch!`
`03:02.41`	`Kaelten`	`of course searching it is taking forever`
`03:03.18`	`JoshBorke`	`grep!`
`03:03.19`	`JoshBorke`	`vim!`
`03:03.24`	`chutwig`	`grim!`
`03:03.57`	`OverloadUT`	`HOLY CRAP I FIGURED IT OUT`
`03:04.23`	`OverloadUT`	`There are gaps in returnvals because some return values are nil, and that breaks unpack!`
`03:05.23`	`JoshBorke`	`heh`
`03:05.48`	`OverloadUT`	`The question now is... how to fix that? :(`
`03:06.03`	`Kaelten`	`here is whats killing me my logs aren't showing that hike in traffic`
`03:06.30`	`JoshBorke`	`could you figure it out based on what they were downloading?`
`03:07.29`	`Symian`	`AHAH! Success! Data/Interface/locale-enUS.MPQ contains, well, SOME of the borders.`
`03:07.53`	`JoshBorke`	`grep for all times between 12 and 15, grep out the IP address for each entry, then sort it and count the number of instances? or sometihng like that?`
`03:08.00`	`CIA-11`	`03funkydude * r30755 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: BigWigs: SC/Lurker: typo`
`03:08.06`	`ckknight`	`OverloadUT: already told you :-P`
`03:08.11`	`ckknight`	`OverloadUT: you must not've been paying attention`
`03:08.20`	`ckknight`	`unpack(t, 1, realFinish)`
`03:08.22`	`Kaelten`	`JoshBorke: thats a little bit beyond my bash skills :s`
`03:08.46`	`OverloadUT`	`Hmm, how would I determine realFinish?`
`03:08.51`	`OverloadUT`	`Iterate through and find the last index?`
`03:09.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Did they change BM to not spawn spellcaster rift lords?`
`03:09.42`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30756 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - no longer use SEAura, as it provides a bunch of information I don't need, as well as not working for targettarget`
`03:09.45`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten: i could do the first part :-D`
`03:10.11`	`ckknight`	`alright, gotta go`
`03:10.13`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten: what about trynig AWStats?`
`03:11.01`	`Kaelten`	`I'm not sure if awstats can handle squid files`
`03:11.10`	`JoshBorke`	`hm, yea`
`03:14.31`	`Kaelten`	`07.Mar 07 14:00 357866 8440M 56.26 59.14 56.10 - - 56.09`
`03:15.00`	`Kaelten`	`that hour did about 150k more transfers`
`03:15.22`	`Kaelten`	`er reqeusts`
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`03:23.04`	`kergoth`	`OverloadUT: as i said above, you should use select('#', ...) and store that value in the table you capture the values in.`
`03:24.01`	`OverloadUT`	`Well I'm using ... for the function args already`
`03:24.55`	`kergoth`	`i dont think you understood what i was saying.`
`03:25.09`	`kergoth`	`select('#', ...) is the true number of arguments, regardless of holes.`
`03:25.56`	`OverloadUT`	`Yeah I have no problem with the number of arguments. I had a problem with the number of return values which I was storing like "local returnvals = {origfunction()}"`
`03:27.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`man i dont think ive ever has as much SCT spam on my screen as i did tonight`
`03:27.16`	`kergoth`	`ahh i see`
`03:27.17`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
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`03:27.38`	`OverloadUT`	`For now I'm just doing a quick for k,v in pairs() loop to find the highest index`
`03:27.45`	`OverloadUT`	`What I basically need is a "second" ... var`
`03:28.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`was just working on illhoof and i had the job of aoe tanking the imps and killing them with seed of corruption, and i have 3/3 shadoweave.... talk about spamage`
`03:28.04`	`OverloadUT`	`this is only temp code anyway :P`
`03:28.34`	`kergoth`	`function wrap(...) return select('#', ...), ... end .... local returnvals = {wrap(origfunction())} local count = table.remove(returnvals, 1) return unpack(returnvals, 1, count)`
`03:28.38`	`kergoth`	`or so`
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`03:29.07`	`OverloadUT`	`Arrowmaster: I like that MSBT condenses events to prevent spam :)`
`03:29.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`i've been meaning to try that`
`03:30.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres just something that seems so wrong about doing more than 40% of the damage on a boss fight that lasted 10 minutes`
`03:38.09`	`Cryect`	`5 man I hope?`
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`03:42.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`no i was refering to a 10 man`
`03:52.57`	`OverloadUT`	`It works!! http://ace.pastey.net/9018`
`03:53.12`	`OverloadUT`	`It logs all the args and return vals from the hooked functions. :)`
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`04:06.32`	`kergoth`	`cart corpseway says to blame the hunter`
`04:06.35`	`kergoth`	`but i'm the hunter :(`
`04:08.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`it's obviously you're fault, then`
`04:10.22`	`JoshBorke`	`it's ok, it said blame the priest to me and i'm a priest`
`04:11.00`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`04:11.11`	`deltron`	`hehe`
`04:12.03`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`you know, strangely, I never saw one that says 'blame the tank'. Lesson? It's never the tanks fault.`
`04:12.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`:D`
`04:12.10`	`JoshBorke`	`night all`
`04:19.42`	`chutwig`	`flying while drunk is hilarious yet dangerous`
`04:19.51`	`chutwig`	`i am currently flying nearly straight upward without touching the keyboard`
`04:23.11`	`CIA-11`	`03micron * r30757 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: (log message trimmed)`
`04:23.11`	`CIA-11`	`Cartographer_InstanceNotes:`
`04:23.11`	`CIA-11`	`Zul'Farrak:`
`04:23.11`	`CIA-11`	`-repositioned several bosses to be close to their actual positions instead of in the middle of the mountains.`
`04:23.11`	`CIA-11`	`-removed Zul'Farrak Dead Hero as they are no longer elite as of patch 1.12`
`04:23.12`	`CIA-11`	`Sunken Temple:`
`04:23.14`	`CIA-11`	`-Repositioned several boss and critical location notes`
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`04:26.20`	`CIA-11`	`03trh * r30758 10VanasKoS/ (11 files in 3 dirs):`
`04:26.20`	`CIA-11`	`VanasKoS:`
`04:26.20`	`CIA-11`	`- added a "locked" option for the mainframe, it's movable if disabled`
`04:26.21`	`CIA-11`	`- added a fubar plugin`
`04:26.42`	`CIA-11`	`03eternally777 * r30759 10SacredBuff/Locales/frFR.lua:`
`04:26.42`	`CIA-11`	`SacredBuff:`
`04:26.42`	`CIA-11`	`* Fixing a French translation`
`04:30.27`	`Amadeo`	`is there an innkeeper in the Shattrath lower city?`
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`04:31.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`no`
`04:31.27`	`Micron_WoW`	`I don't believe so. The tavern there certainly does not have one.`
`04:32.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres an 'inn' but the innkeeper tells you its full and to goto one of the inns in the tiers`
`04:32.16`	`Amadeo`	`damn`
`04:32.17`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`04:32.34`	`ggilbert`	`nice`
`04:33.19`	`Fin`	`~seen _neuron_`
`04:34.08`	`purl`	`_neuron_ is currently on #wowace (5h 4m 38s), last said: 'kergoth, in karazhan atm, gonna look at it after'.`
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`05:27.21`	`bossdj`	`I'd like to be able to put text in front of a editbox, is that possible?`
`05:31.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`So... random question. I've got 2k gold, most of netherstorms quests to do, and have 375 skinning & herbalism, but want to pick up leatherworking. Should I do it now, or wait until I get my epic flying mount?`
`05:32.05`	`CIA-11`	`03funkydude * r30760 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC: add Leotheras mod`
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`05:37.35`	`CIA-11`	`03funkydude * r30761 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: bugfix`
`05:38.56`	`Symian`	`Whew, I finally got my frame to show up, in exactly the way I want! I did it by using LUA to make the frames, instead of XML. Thing is, the wowwiki only shows how to make a frame dragabble in XML. How should I make a frame dragabble in LUA?`
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`05:40.52`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`05:41.19`	Funkeh`	`hey`
`05:41.20`	Funkeh`	`later`
`05:41.22`	Funkeh`	`:p`
`05:57.46`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Symian, it's pretty easy. A moment, and I'll look and tell you.`
`05:59.40`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`hrm, I can't find a good example right now, but you define the frame as movable=true or something, and then define OnMouseDown and OnMouseUps to StartMoving() and StopMovingOrSizing()`
`06:02.24`	`Symian`	`Yes, I thought it might be like that`
`06:02.29`	`art3mis`	`grab questfu or fubarplugin`
`06:02.30`	`Symian`	`wheny ou say define OnMouseDown`
`06:02.36`	`art3mis`	`both have good examples of that`
`06:02.53`	`art3mis`	`for the detached tooltip`
`06:03.05`	`Symian`	`say the frame was defined by: "local f = CreateFrame(..."`
`06:03.25`	`Symian`	`would I do "function f:OnMouseDown() blah end"?`
`06:03.32`	`Symian`	`art3mis, thanks, I'll grab them.`
`06:05.17`	`ckknight`	`Symian: f:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function(this, button) blah end)`
`06:05.53`	`Symian`	`Oh, interesting.`
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`06:08.48`	`ckknight`	`a bit odd, I know`
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`06:09.06`	`ckknight`	`what you can do, though is this:`
`06:09.23`	`ckknight`	`function f:OnMouseDown(button) blah end; f:SetScript("OnMouseDown", f.OnMouseDown)`
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`06:12.01`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`wow, they really nerfed down gruul`
`06:12.19`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`doable with zero consumables now.`
`06:12.27`	`CIA-11`	`03zealotonastick * r30762 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua statusbar/Button.tga statusbar/LiteStep.tga):`
`06:12.27`	`CIA-11`	`SharedMedia`
`06:12.27`	`CIA-11`	`- Added Button and LiteStep statusbar textures.`
`06:15.29`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Yeah.`
`06:15.47`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`We waxed gruul first and only shot tonight. Some of the raid didn't pot up at all.`
`06:16.06`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`STill glad to have beaten him pre-nerf.`
`06:16.22`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`no we're playing with Mags and SSC.`
`06:16.26`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`now, rather`
`06:16.38`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`yeah, even pre-nerf it was just about the slam timing`
`06:17.14`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30763 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - hovering over auras will now show the tooltip for them.`
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`06:41.58`	`Symian`	`Ok - thanks ckknight, ZealotOnAStick, and art3mis!`
`06:42.23`	`Symian`	`It's loading fine, but nothing seems to actually be triggering an event. But I think I know what's causing it, so I'll just dig a bit.`
`06:46.52`	`Symian`	`Hmm... I thought a simple Frame:EnableMouse(true) would do it, no dice`
`06:47.01`	`Symian`	`do I need to do some event registering of some sort, or something?`
`06:47.07`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`06:47.12`	`ckknight`	`this is a button?`
`06:47.14`	`ckknight`	`or a frame?`
`06:47.19`	`Symian`	`No, just a simple frame`
`06:47.22`	`Symian`	`that I want to drag around`
`06:47.32`	`Symian`	`(and resize, but that comes later)`
`06:47.49`	`ckknight`	`frame:RegisterForDrag("LeftButton")`
`06:48.00`	`ckknight`	`frame:SetScript("OnDragStart", frame_OnDragStart)`
`06:48.00`	`ckknight`	`frame:SetScript("OnDragStop", frame_OnDragStop)`
`06:48.16`	`Symian`	`I was using the OnMouseDown/OnMouseUp/OnHide method... the wowwwiki says it's "more responsive"`
`06:48.19`	`ckknight`	`those frame_ dealies are functions`
`06:48.28`	`ckknight`	`trust me on this one.`
`06:48.41`	`Symian`	`Heh, will do - thanks again.`
`06:49.58`	`ckknight`	`oh, :SetMovable(true)`
`06:50.56`	`Symian`	`Hmm... using those non-OO frame_OnDrag* functions, how do I refer to the frame?`
`06:51.16`	`Symian`	`just by using the frame name? Man, I need to learn LUA variable scoping`
`06:51.19`	`ckknight`	`local function frame_OnDrag(this, ...)`
`06:51.25`	`ckknight`	`this refers to the frame`
`06:51.27`	`Symian`	`Oh, first argument is "this"`
`06:51.28`	`Symian`	`Ok`
`06:51.48`	`Symian`	`Will the "..." ever be used?`
`06:52.03`	`Symian`	`for optional args?`
`06:52.05`	`ckknight`	`for the OnDrag stuff, it'll be one argument, the mouse button`
`06:52.12`	`ckknight`	`it depends on the kind of script`
`06:52.19`	`ckknight`	`for OnUpdate, it's the time since the last`
`06:52.22`	`ckknight`	`and such`
`06:52.27`	`ckknight`	`wowwiki has all the info you need`
`06:53.13`	`Symian`	`Mm... no it doesn't. Well, at least, not for OnDrag*`
`06:53.33`	`Symian`	`But that's a good start, so thanks`
`06:54.00`	`Phatrik`	`with nothing to do, I took PitBull for a spin ... shame the spin came to a complete halt, as it is not working at all :S`
`06:54.44`	`ckknight`	`yes it is`
`06:54.47`	`Symian`	`Oh, woh, what?! You can enable arbitrary key events for frames in Wow?! Why has no one made an Arcade Games add-on!`
`06:54.49`	`ckknight`	`you just don't have the libraries, my guess`
`06:54.52`	`Symian`	`I'd kill to play pac man while in a raid!`
`06:55.01`	`ckknight`	`Symian: you very well could.`
`06:55.11`	`Symian`	`Oh, I'm so all over that when I figure this stuff out.`
`06:55.19`	`ckknight`	`knock yourself out :-)`
`06:55.28`	`kergoth`	`Symian: there are lots of in game minigames.... no pacman, but tetris and poker and others`
`06:55.30`	`Symian`	`Probably.`
`06:55.39`	`Symian`	`kergoth, there are? Nice.`
`06:55.45`	`kergoth`	`yep, look at the addon sites.`
`06:55.54`	`Symian`	`I'll do that. Never even thought it might exist.`
`06:56.41`	`Symian`	`Hah... wait until I make a mod that goes WorldFrame:Hide() and then loads an entirely different game in.`
`07:00.31`	`Symian`	`(I think big.)`
`07:03.42`	`ckknight`	`lol.`
`07:04.31`	`Symian`	`Ok, it's still not working. Could I pain you to look at a pastey? I'll strip it down to just the relevant code.`
`07:05.24`	`Symian`	`if so: ace.pastey.net/9021`
`07:05.53`	`Symian`	`http://ace.pastey.net/9021 <--- now with resource handler for your conveniance!`
`07:08.14`	`CIA-11`	`03tsigo * r30764 10Cutup/: Cutup: initial import.`
`07:09.16`	`ckknight`	`what doesn't work?`
`07:09.33`	`Symian`	`Dragging.`
`07:09.46`	`Symian`	`No DragStart or DragStop events are being fired`
`07:09.54`	`Symian`	`OnDragStart, OnDragStop *`
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`07:10.09`	`ckknight`	`put :EnableMouse(true)`
`07:10.24`	`ckknight`	`also note: $parent doesn't work in lua`
`07:10.36`	`Symian`	`It doesn't? Didn't know that.`
`07:10.58`	`Symian`	`Ok - so I need EnableMouse(true), SetMovable(true), AND RegisterForDrag("LeftButton")?`
`07:11.01`	`Symian`	`Anything else?`
`07:11.13`	`Symian`	`:-D`
`07:11.32`	`ckknight`	`just the scripts`
`07:11.37`	`ckknight`	`so I think you're good`
`07:12.20`	`Symian`	`Oh! Very interesting. I just made a discovery. It is definitely dragable now (and may have been before), but apparently the child frames (TextStatusBars) are covering it up`
`07:12.33`	`Symian`	`What's the best way to bleed the mouse events down to the parent frame?`
`07:14.34`	`ckknight`	`by not having the mouse enabled on it`
`07:14.50`	`ckknight`	`on the child frames, that is`
`07:15.07`	`Symian`	`It isn't....`
`07:15.36`	`Symian`	`Unless -- is "dragging" defined as grabbing the border?`
`07:15.45`	`Symian`	`because my border is 3 px wide. Which makes that difficult.`
`07:16.02`	`Symian`	`'specially on such a drastic UI downscaling`
`07:17.38`	`CIA-11`	`03tsigo * r30765 10Cutup/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Cutup: A framework for Rogue-specific modules.`
`07:22.36`	`CIA-11`	`03adirelle * r30766 10CastYeller/ (CastYeller.lua CastYeller.toc announces/druid.lua):`
`07:22.36`	`CIA-11`	`CastYeller:`
`07:22.36`	`CIA-11`	`- added druid enUS funny announces, thanks to Arzach@Dragonblight-EU,`
`07:22.37`	`CIA-11`	`- will not whisper to yourself anymore,`
`07:22.37`	`CIA-11`	`- preliminary support for channel specific announces,`
`07:22.37`	`CIA-11`	`- preliminary support for spell failure announce (disabled in code ATM).`
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`07:25.49`	`Symian`	`Wait... does the game automagically persist frame locations?`
`07:26.02`	`Symian`	`I thought I'd have to script that with offsets...`
`07:26.33`	`ckknight`	`what I do is save position on OnDragStop`
`07:26.53`	`Symian`	`But it seems to be saving the position without any code to do it`
`07:27.03`	`Symian`	`Or, does it save positions through UI reload, but not logout?`
`07:27.49`	`ckknight`	`neither`
`07:27.52`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30767 10PitBull/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`07:27.52`	`CIA-11`	`PitBull - created initial grounding of a modular framework`
`07:27.52`	`CIA-11`	`- separated PitBull_Aura into its own module`
`07:27.58`	`ckknight`	`that I know of`
`07:28.08`	`Symian`	`Well, I mean, I'm definitely seeing persistancy of frame locations`
`07:28.17`	`Symian`	`and I certainly did not write anything to make it do that...`
`07:28.45`	`Symian`	`Unless.... can you drag UIParent?`
`07:28.52`	`ckknight`	`probably`
`07:28.54`	`Symian`	`Am I dragging UIParent right now?`
`07:28.57`	`ckknight`	`but I doubt you did`
`07:29.09`	`Symian`	`Yeah, other frames would be moving`
`07:29.10`	`Symian`	`if I had`
`07:30.02`	`jeffrey`	`hi ck`
`07:30.12`	`ckknight`	`hey jeffrey`
`07:30.24`	`jeffrey`	`im real life friends with smeltn ;)`
`07:30.39`	`Symian`	`Well, thanks once again for the hand holding ckknight. I'm going to figure this out soon enough...`
`07:30.50`	`ckknight`	`jeffrey: okay then.`
`07:31.15`	`ckknight`	`you don't get any extra brownie points for that, you know, jeffrey`
`07:31.23`	`jeffrey`	`minus points if any`
`07:32.18`	`ckknight`	`shrug`
`07:32.24`	`ckknight`	`smeltn is neutral in my book`
`07:34.26`	`CIA-11`	`03fatherjim * r30768 10loudmouth/ (Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua):`
`07:34.26`	`CIA-11`	`loudmouth:`
`07:34.26`	`CIA-11`	`- Update for beta testers`
`07:36.26`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30769 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua:`
`07:36.26`	`CIA-11`	`.AceModuleCore-2.0 - :IterateModules() speedup. Now calculates the list of`
`07:36.26`	`CIA-11`	`modules to iterate through once per core, which will be wiped on GC or when the`
`07:36.26`	`CIA-11`	`core has a new module added to it. This should lead to a speedup in multiple`
`07:36.26`	`CIA-11`	`successive calls to :IterateModules() on one core.`
`07:38.09`	`ckknight`	`that's to speed up PitBull's modular framework :-P`
`07:38.43`	`jeffrey`	`i wish blizzard would put a casino in wow`
`07:39.48`	`ckknight`	`I don't`
`07:39.57`	`jeffrey`	`what`
`07:40.08`	`jeffrey`	`i would love to sit at a slot machine and make gold`
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`07:42.01`	`ckknight`	`jeffrey: you would so lose it all.`
`07:42.11`	`ckknight`	`slots are so bad for odds for the players`
`07:42.14`	`kergoth`	`yep`
`07:42.18`	`kergoth`	`not to mention being mindless`
`07:42.22`	`jeffrey`	`yea it would be a blast`
`07:46.13`	`Symian`	`Ok! Hot damn! Sentinel 0.1 is workin' at full (crippled) capacity. The product of about a week of annoying people on this channel, cussing at spotty documentation (not on Ace's part - the ace site is wonderful), and more UI reloads than I care to retell, my first non-trivial add on is functional.`
`07:46.17`	`Symian`	`Now to make it actually useful.`
`07:46.55`	`Symian`	`So thanks to everyone here, and good night.`
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`07:54.03`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30770 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: .AceModuleCore-2.0 - bugfix from last commit`
`07:58.41`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30771 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull_Aura/PitBull_Aura.lua): PitBull - speed up iteration by figuring out what modules support what functions beforehand, storing it in a list, and iterate through that quickly.`
`07:58.53`	`CIA-11`	`03nymbia * r30772 10MobMitigation/MobMitigation.lua:`
`07:58.53`	`CIA-11`	`MobMitigation:`
`07:58.53`	`CIA-11`	`- Bugfix for hybrids not recording melee damage.`
`07:58.53`	`CIA-11`	`- Bugfix for needing to retarget to update armor estimate.`
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`08:01.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I dislike ants.`
`08:03.14`	`nymbia`	`aww poor ants :(`
`08:06.17`	`weab`	`ckknight: was acecomm supposed to be able to construct item links now even if not in the local cache?`
`08:06.24`	`ckknight`	`yes`
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`08:06.50`	`ckknight`	`as of yesterday, if you updated properly`
`08:06.51`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`the poor ants are crawling all over my damn kitchen counter`
`08:06.54`	`weab`	`and i'm supposed to be able to just send them directly through the addon channel?`
`08:06.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`they can suck it.`
`08:06.59`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`and by "it" i mean Raid.`
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`08:07.09`	`ckknight`	`weab: you're supposed to send it through AceComm`
`08:07.18`	`weab`	`well, right`
`08:07.22`	`weab`	`that's what i meant`
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`08:07.53`	`weab`	`by updated properly, you mean the lastest revision of ace2`
`08:08.40`	`weab`	`well I'm confused then`
`08:09.41`	`CIA-11`	`03next96 07next96 * r30773 10Cartographer_Vendors/Cartographer_Vendors/addon.lua:`
`08:09.41`	`CIA-11`	`CartographCartographer_Vendors :`
`08:09.41`	`CIA-11`	`- icon change`
`08:10.07`	`CIA-11`	`03next96 07next96 * r30774 10Cartographer_Vendors/Cartographer_Vendors/Artwork/ (INV_Misc_ElvenCoins.tga INV_Misc_Gem_BloodGem_02.tga):`
`08:10.07`	`CIA-11`	`CartoCartographCartographer_Vendors :`
`08:10.07`	`CIA-11`	`- icon change`
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`08:23.17`	`Dynom`	`Girl I wanna make you sweat, sweat till you can't sweat no mooooore`
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`08:34.42`	`weab`	`well i'm sending a link, it looks like it's getting sent serialized properly, but it's still ending up nil on the other side if it isn't in the local cache`
`08:35.24`	`weab`	`both are the current revision of acecomm, i'm staring a the newItemLinks code on both machines`
`08:35.56`	`weab`	`can't figure out what i could possibly be doing wrong if it is in fact working`
`08:38.48`	`CIA-11`	`03gagorian * r30775 10DrDamage/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`08:38.48`	`CIA-11`	`DrDamage:`
`08:38.48`	`CIA-11`	`-Added shaman talent 'Elemental Focus' into DPM/Casts/Dmg until OOM calculations`
`08:39.04`	`ckknight`	`should definitely not show up as nil`
`08:39.15`	`weab`	`definitely is :(`
`08:39.48`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30776 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - remove the newItemLinks check, as it's passed the appropriate date`
`08:39.53`	`ckknight`	`try that`
`08:40.59`	`weab`	`still nil`
`08:41.28`	`ckknight`	`no :-(`
`08:41.43`	`gxam`	`i see no reason for it to be breaking`
`08:41.46`	`gxam`	`but it is`
`08:42.48`	`ckknight`	`except it's essentially impossible unless an error fired`
`08:43.04`	`gxam`	`it seems to be getting serialized and sent over the comm channel fine`
`08:43.16`	`gxam`	`but stuff not in cache is not getting deserialized correctly`
`08:43.58`	`gxam`	`even though i'm staring at the code that can't possibly return nil`
`08:44.04`	`gxam`	`it's very confusing.`
`08:44.12`	`weab`	`we're basically just doing nothing more than rat:SendCommMessage("RAID", link) and printing it on the other side, getting nil`
`08:44.24`	`ckknight`	`on the receiving end, can you check the serialized code?`
`08:44.35`	`ckknight`	`i.e. specifically, is there a capital or lowercase I?`
`08:44.39`	`gxam`	`capital`
`08:44.52`	`ckknight`	`double-you tee eff`
`08:44.57`	`gxam`	`yeah`
`08:45.01`	`gxam`	`that's what i've been saying too`
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`08:46.32`	`ckknight`	`go to AceComm, line 794`
`08:46.40`	`ckknight`	`and insert a print statement after the link creation`
`08:46.43`	`ckknight`	`see if it comes up`
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`08:48.44`	`gxam`	`yes`
`08:49.13`	`gxam`	`oh`
`08:49.13`	`ckknight`	`it does?`
`08:49.14`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30777 10PitBull/ (4 files in 2 dirs): PitBull - Health is now a module.`
`08:49.30`	`gxam`	`is that link on 794`
`08:49.34`	`gxam`	`local to the if`
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`08:49.52`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r30778 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.lua: ErrorMonster: Clean up our option table.`
`08:49.56`	`gxam`	`and not visible to the return?`
`08:50.05`	`ckknight`	`I just saw it, too`
`08:50.06`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30779 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - remove local, preventing the item link stuff from working`
`08:50.07`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`08:50.13`	`ckknight`	`I have prepared a statement: my bad`
`08:50.21`	`Gagorian`	`Anyone have an idea why ["(%d+) Mana"] = "Mana : (%d+)" wouldn't work in frFR locale?`
`08:50.33`	`CIA-11`	`03nymbia * r30780 10MobMitigation/ (MobMitigation.lua MobMitigation.toc):`
`08:50.33`	`CIA-11`	`MobMitigation:`
`08:50.33`	`CIA-11`	`- Use a PerChar savedvars file for data storage.`
`08:50.36`	`ckknight`	`it would, Gagorian`
`08:50.38`	`weab`	`well`
`08:50.49`	`weab`	`that was a lot of effort for something so simple!`
`08:50.51`	`weab`	`:P`
`08:50.56`	`ckknight`	`weab: yea.`
`08:51.06`	`gxam`	`victory.`
`08:51.07`	`weab`	`victory is yours!`
`08:51.13`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`nymbia: what's the gui, or display, or whatever, for mobmitigatin?`
`08:51.15`	`gxam`	`what an awesome bug :>`
`08:51.21`	`weab`	`glad it was an easy fix at least.`
`08:51.37`	`nymbia`	`NightHawkTheSane: theres a screenshot around the wiki somewhere, sec`
`08:51.43`	`Gagorian`	`ckknight: Well, it works probably. What I meant was that it doesn't match that string even if screenshots show a format like that for tooltip mana cost`
`08:52.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ah, well i can check the wiki`
`08:52.10`	`ckknight`	`Gagorian: figure out what it is in the global strings and use deformat.`
`08:52.14`	`nymbia`	`NightHawkTheSane: http://wowace.com/mediawiki/images/5/5a/MobMitigation.jpg`
`08:53.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmm.`
`08:54.29`	`Gagorian`	`ckknight: MANA_COST seems to match at least in english locale. That'd work automagically in all locales?`
`08:54.38`	`ckknight`	`yep.`
`08:54.44`	`ckknight`	`just use deformat to use it properly`
`08:55.03`	`Gagorian`	`Ok thanks`
`08:56.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I need more AP. ><`
`08:56.25`	`CIA-11`	`03kergoth * r30781 10Cutup/modules/TickToxin.lua: Cutup: TickToxin Module: SurfaceLib usage fixup.`
`09:01.15`	`Suntiger`	`whats a cutup ?`
`09:01.48`	`Dynom`	`ckknight: how can I get Cavity to work? It nags about missing libs`
`09:01.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`rogue addons`
`09:01.59`	`Dynom`	`ckknight: what should I download in addition to Cavity`
`09:02.13`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Dynom: install the libs it wants? :P they should be in the toc`
`09:02.32`	`Dynom`	`but shouldn't that be embedded?`
`09:03.06`	`Dynom`	`WAU should have a dependancy check ^^`
`09:03.16`	`ckknight`	`Dynom: get Pitbull`
`09:03.21`	`ckknight`	`I renamed it`
`09:03.28`	`Dynom`	`".. requires the following libraries, install these also?" [Y\|n]`
`09:03.36`	`ckknight`	`Dynom: I haven't put the libs in yet`
`09:03.43`	`Dynom`	`ckknight: kk`
`09:04.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`'insert everything from wowace.com is beta software notice here'`
`09:04.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`^^`
`09:05.39`	`Dynom`	`Arrowmaster: well yeah, but thats why I ask what to install in addition`
`09:06.04`	`Dynom`	`I don't expect freebee software to be perfect`
`09:06.11`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30782 10Babble-2.2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Babble-2.2 - added Babble-Faction-2.2 - Thanks, Daviesh!`
`09:06.27`	`ckknight`	`Dynom: but if you get the standalone libraries, it _should_ work`
`09:06.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`generally for that you look at the error message and install whatever it says is missing then restart and try again`
`09:06.54`	`Dynom`	`Arrowmaster: yeah, had that ones, was 12 relogs further before it got fixed`
`09:06.59`	`Dynom`	`Arrowmaster: kinda try to avoid that`
`09:07.01`	`ckknight`	`Dynom: get SharedMediaLib and Ace2`
`09:07.03`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30783 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - remove Dewdrop reference`
`09:07.09`	`Dynom`	`ckknight: k`
`09:07.23`	`Gagorian`	`SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0\SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0.lua:14: SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0 requires Deformat-2.0.`
`09:07.24`	`ckknight`	`actually, fuck`
`09:07.26`	`ckknight`	`no one update yet`
`09:07.41`	`Gagorian`	`And I've got embedded and standalone Deformat`
`09:08.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`i generally only like 1 or 2 missing lib errors at a time when they showup since it usually from updates`
`09:08.06`	`mitch0`	`:)`
`09:08.26`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30784 10PitBull/PitBull_Mana/ (. PitBull_Mana.lua): PitBull - turn Mana into a module`
`09:08.56`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30785 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: PitBull - add Mana to the toc`
`09:09.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`"lol" and "o_0" mana as a module, do you mean the mana/rage/energy bars?`
`09:09.32`	`CIA-11`	`03gagorian * r30786 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc Localization.lua):`
`09:09.32`	`CIA-11`	`DrDamage:`
`09:09.32`	`CIA-11`	`-Removed localization file for the time being (until someone wants do it...)`
`09:09.32`	`CIA-11`	`-Using deformat + global strings for the few locale specific stuff`
`09:09.36`	`NeoTron`	`is there any sshots of pitbull ? :P`
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`09:10.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`wow ckknight`
`09:10.33`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`09:10.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`tonumber((string.gsub("$Revision$", "^.-(%d+).-$", "%1")))`
`09:10.46`	`ckknight`	`what's all this, then?`
`09:10.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats the most complex form of doing that ive seen so far`
`09:10.53`	`ckknight`	`pshaw`
`09:11.01`	`ckknight`	`it's not mine`
`09:11.04`	`ckknight`	`I stole it from somewhere`
`09:11.13`	`ckknight`	`I like to use :sub`
`09:11.31`	`vhaarr`	`not only is it complex, it's really slow due to .-`
`09:11.34`	`ckknight`	`or even match'd be nicer`
`09:11.43`	`Gagorian`	`Can anyone explain why SpecialEventsLoot doesn't find Deformat? I've got it standalone and others addons find it fine.`
`09:11.43`	`ckknight`	`I'll fix it`
`09:12.02`	`nymbia`	`("$Revision$"):match("%d+") imo`
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`09:12.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`agree with nymbia`
`09:12.39`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r30787 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Register UNIT_MAX* family`
`09:13.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`maybe add an or 0 to the end like ive seen a few people do`
`09:14.02`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30788 10PitBull/ (4 files in 4 dirs): PitBull - make $Revision$ checking cleaner and faster`
`09:14.08`	`ckknight`	`Saroz_: you looking through my code?`
`09:14.19`	`ckknight`	`nymbia: that's what I had done :-P`
`09:14.27`	`nymbia`	`;)`
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`09:15.22`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30789 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - remove in-combat check which does nothing`
`09:15.52`	`ckknight`	`I bet I can do it.`
`09:16.23`	`ckknight`	`I want the PitBull core to be as small as possible, mostly utility functions for the modules to use`
`09:16.35`	`nymbia`	`ckknight: are the wacky frames gonna stay updating as often as they are? seems a bit fast`
`09:16.43`	`ckknight`	`it's not, actually`
`09:16.49`	`ckknight`	`due to the small amount of them`
`09:16.58`	`ckknight`	`and that's how fast the human eye sees`
`09:17.12`	`ckknight`	`if it becomes a problem (which I really doubt it will), I'll bump it to 0.1`
`09:17.26`	`nymbia`	`well rather.. it might be a bit much once some modules are slowing things down for those updates ;)`
`09:17.34`	`Health`	`screenshot or it didn't happen!`
`09:17.43`	`ckknight`	`Health: ur dum`
`09:17.59`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`09:18.01`	`knarf-`	`is there any actual usage of PitBull yet?`
`09:18.05`	`Health`	`yes! Actually, the swedish word for dumb is dum! Funny!`
`09:19.03`	`ckknight`	`knarf-: I don't recommend it for anything outside of educational purposes right now`
`09:19.11`	`ckknight`	`you know, 0.1 is probably better for the wacky frames.`
`09:19.29`	`ckknight`	`actually, no 0.15, since that's what the frame registration uses`
`09:19.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`i wonder how many errors im going to get when i go ingame and run this function to create the entire UI i wrote in lua earlyer`
`09:19.51`	`knarf-`	`ckknight fair enough :)`
`09:19.52`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: How about only updating the frames if there's anything to update? Or is that not possible with these "wacky" frames?`
`09:20.03`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: impossible, that's why they're wacky`
`09:20.06`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`09:20.07`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: there aren't too many of em`
`09:20.10`	`nymbia`	`ckknight: maybe some way for modules to only have their parts of the updates fire if the health or mana value has changed`
`09:20.11`	`ckknight`	`currently, it's just targettarget`
`09:20.20`	`ckknight`	`nymbia: that's what happens now.`
`09:20.23`	`ckknight`	`for non-wacky frames`
`09:20.25`	`ckknight`	`i.e. most frames`
`09:20.55`	`ckknight`	`non-wacky frames: player, target, mouseover, focus, party1-4, partypet1-4, raid1-40`
`09:21.03`	`ckknight`	`wacky frames are everything that isn't those`
`09:21.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`you forgot pet`
`09:21.12`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30790 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - bumped the wacky frame timer to 0.15`
`09:21.27`	`Health`	`So much secrets!`
`09:21.31`	`ckknight`	`such as raid pets, raid targets, party targets, targettarget, and targettargettarget`
`09:21.44`	`ckknight`	`oh, pet is also a non-wacky frame`
`09:21.51`	`ckknight`	`as Arrowmaster mentioned`
`09:22.51`	`Health`	`What's new and hot with pitbull? What's speeecial? Couldn't find any info on wowace.com - too early in dev I guess!`
`09:23.06`	`Suntiger`	`its made by ckknight`
`09:23.07`	`Health`	`I'm sure I'm no the first one to ask. It got "wacky" frames at least!`
`09:23.09`	`Suntiger`	`isn't that enough`
`09:23.11`	`Suntiger`	`:P`
`09:23.30`	`ckknight`	`I started it like a day ago`
`09:23.35`	`Health`	`Slack!`
`09:23.38`	`ckknight`	`actually, no, 2 days`
`09:24.00`	`ckknight`	`basically, the underlying principles are modularization and efficiency`
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`09:25.00`	`Health`	`I see.`
`09:29.52`	`CIA-11`	`03gagorian * r30791 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.toc ReadMe.txt Readme.txt):`
`09:29.52`	`CIA-11`	`DrDamage:`
`09:29.52`	`CIA-11`	`-Added AceLocale back to .toc for BabbleSpell`
`09:30.53`	`ckknight`	`lol, looks like I modularized the highlighting`
`09:30.54`	`ckknight`	`shazam`
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`09:38.46`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30792 10PitBull/ (5 files in 3 dirs):`
`09:38.46`	`CIA-11`	`PitBull - bugfix to Mana module`
`09:38.46`	`CIA-11`	`- separated Highlight module out of the core`
`09:39.06`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yay bugfix!`
`09:39.23`	`ckknight`	`I still have to put nameText and classText into modules`
`09:39.26`	`ckknight`	`but not sure which modules`
`09:39.29`	`ckknight`	`or how it should be organized`
`09:39.37`	`[Ammo]`	`do you have watchdog tags yet? :)`
`09:39.38`	`Nickenyfiken`	`just got a pitbull.lua:424 error is that what you fixed? :-)`
`09:41.14`	`ckknight`	`Nickenyfiken: possible`
`09:41.23`	`ckknight`	`[Ammo]: no, I'm thinking about how to get those actually efficient`
`09:41.23`	`Nickenyfiken`	`trying now`
`09:41.30`	`[Ammo]`	`hmmok`
`09:41.36`	`[Ammo]`	`also mobhealth3 compat :)`
`09:41.41`	`ckknight`	`clearly`
`09:41.52`	`ckknight`	`I want to fix auras, though`
`09:42.05`	`ckknight`	`positioning is all that's left to have that working`
`09:42.06`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ckknight: yup your lates commit fixed it`
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`09:42.33`	`ckknight`	`hrm, I think maybe I should do the watchdog stuff and then think of a way about how to make it efficient`
`09:42.46`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hmm Aura position is one of the "weakest" things in agUF in my opinion`
`09:43.44`	`ckknight`	`throw ideas out there.`
`09:43.49`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Would it be hard to have seperate configurations (position, size etc.) for buffs and debuffs?`
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`09:44.50`	`ckknight`	`no`
`09:44.58`	`ckknight`	`they're separate now, I mean`
`09:45.03`	`ckknight`	`there's no real position stuff in place`
`09:45.10`	`ckknight`	`basically, how it is now is that you have frame`
`09:45.13`	`ckknight`	`frame.buffs`
`09:45.15`	`ckknight`	`which is a list`
`09:45.18`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30793 10PitBull/ (9 files in 5 dirs): PitBull - slight renaming of module lua files`
`09:45.18`	`ckknight`	`of a bunch of frames`
`09:45.22`	`ckknight`	`position!`
`09:45.28`	`ckknight`	`same with frame.debuffs`
`09:45.38`	`ckknight`	`they're all like 16x16 or so`
`09:46.35`	Punkie`	`ckknight, something I would really love to suggest is an Aura list or such`
`09:46.44`	`ckknight`	`for filtering?`
`09:46.49`	Punkie`	`yes`
`09:46.56`	`ckknight`	`I'm not against it`
`09:47.17`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah well for example maybe you want debuffs but now buffs shown on party frames but both shown on target and their position and size would be different on different types of units`
`09:47.27`	Punkie`	`There are very few auras that I would like to see, my own applied ones and 'valuable' auras`
`09:47.36`	`[Ammo]`	`ckk: why not just name the module dirs Mana Health etc`
`09:47.45`	`[Ammo]`	`adding the PitBull_ is ugly`
`09:47.52`	`ckknight`	`because they might be addons eventually.`
`09:47.57`	`[Ammo]`	`even WAU can handle the renaming`
`09:47.58`	`ckknight`	`a la Cartographer`
`09:48.08`	`[Ammo]`	`in carto it's ugly too and unneeded :p`
`09:48.18`	`[Ammo]`	`check bigwigs, it doesn't have it`
`09:48.21`	`[Ammo]`	`makes the addon much cleaner`
`09:48.22`	`ckknight`	`it's needed if people want to move it out of the folder easily`
`09:48.42`	`[Ammo]`	`not if you provide a .bat and make sure to set the filelist.wau entries as: @Mana`
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`09:48.49`	`[Ammo]`	`then the addon name will be added with an _`
`09:49.01`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`09:49.05`	`ckknight`	`I'll do it your way`
`09:49.08`	`[Ammo]`	`cool thanks :)`
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`09:49.17`	`[Ammo]`	`makes for a much cleaner looking repository`
`09:49.21`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hehe`
`09:51.34`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30794 10PitBull/ (18 files in 9 dirs): PitBull - Move things`
`09:52.07`	`CIA-11`	`03fatherjim * r30795 10loudmouth/ (Bindings.xml loudmouth.lua):`
`09:52.07`	`CIA-11`	`loudmouth:`
`09:52.08`	`CIA-11`	`-Added an easter egg for my guild.`
`09:52.39`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30796 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Health/PitBull.lua PitBull.toc): PitBull - fix moving of things, update toc`
`09:52.43`	`xlvii`	`uh.`
`09:52.56`	`xlvii`	`how much +hit rating should i be getting? i am a rogue.`
`09:53.08`	`Dynom`	`easter egg.. hmm`
`09:53.10`	`vhaarr`	`130`
`09:53.49`	`ravagernl`	`Moo, Good Morning`
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`09:56.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`enough to get you to 24% total +hit. :P`
`09:58.14`	`ravagernl`	`ckknight How is work on pitbull :)`
`09:58.21`	`ckknight`	`quite good`
`09:58.25`	`ckknight`	`modularized nearly everything`
`09:58.30`	`ckknight`	`working on the watchdog tags now`
`10:01.48`	`CIA-11`	`03matini * r30797 10Cartographer/ (9 files in 8 dirs): Cartographer: Update zhTW locale`
`10:02.36`	Punkie`	`I just read the TODO of ticktoxin.lua`
`10:02.37`	Punkie`	`:(`
`10:03.12`	`abbat_w`	`ergh...`
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`10:03.15`	`abbat_w`	`stupid armory ;(`
`10:03.29`	`abbat_w`	`guys, anyone have link to talents tab on any char on armory?`
`10:03.34`	`armory`	`I resent that!`
`10:03.50`	`abbat_w`	`can you give me please, i can't switch to this tab, javascript errors on page ;(`
`10:04.06`	`xlvii`	`~seen Antiarc`
`10:04.35`	`purl`	`antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: '(And ensure the XML parses? Drop it into your browser)'.`
`10:08.10`	`ravagernl`	`I wish wowhead would develop it's own character viewer using blizzards site`
`10:08.22`	`yacoob`	`abbat_w, http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-talents.xml?r=Khadgar&n=Svieta`
`10:08.23`	`ravagernl`	`I just hate damn AJAX with flash`
`10:08.36`	`abbat_w`	`yacoob, thanks you very much`
`10:11.59`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I wonder just what it costs Dell - both in cash and terms of hardware - for its product placement on shows like Smallville and the Stargates.`
`10:13.09`	Punkie`	`ZealotOnAStick: I wondered that too :P`
`10:14.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`As far as hardware seen on the show, I imagine it'd be a relative pittance compared to anything else they paid.`
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`10:19.18`	Punkie`	`I always chuckled at the thought of 'We're going to another galaxy, don't forget your Dell XPS laptop!'`
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`10:23.06`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r30798 10SRA/ (SRA.lua locales/enUS.lua): SRA: Shift into Relaxing Attire`
`10:24.52`	`knarf-`	`I feel like making a program to generate the CreateFrame functions and such for you, where you can see it visually :\|`
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`10:25.29`	`ravagernl`	`If I define a local function in a file how can I use it as an event handler when I am not using ace libraries?`
`10:25.36`	`knarf-`	`gah`
`10:26.14`	`ravagernl`	`Need help with this: http://pastey.net/9029 Im sure it's something small`
`10:28.56`	`ravagernl`	`vhaarr: whats that?`
`10:29.36`	`vhaarr`	`ravagernl: what's what?`
`10:29.44`	`ravagernl`	`SRA`
`10:29.53`	`vhaarr`	`you'll see some day`
`10:30.15`	`ckknight`	`oh, btw, PitBull won't have MobHealth2 support, just MobHealth3 support`
`10:30.19`	`ravagernl`	`let me guess`
`10:30.28`	`ravagernl`	`SimpleRaidAssist?`
`10:30.37`	`ckknight`	`Simple your mom assist!`
`10:30.40`	`ckknight`	`bam!`
`10:30.48`	`ravagernl`	`lmao`
`10:31.00`	`ravagernl`	`Sexually offensive addon that eats coconuts for breakfast.`
`10:32.39`	`[Ammo]`	`it makes flying penises move on your screen`
`10:33.10`	`knarf-`	`You make some fucked up statements in this chan now and then :S`
`10:33.21`	`ravagernl`	`ehh, whats wrong with oRA then?`
`10:33.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`..."now and then"? :P`
`10:33.38`	`knarf-`	`NightHawkTheSane i'm just being diplomatic :P`
`10:33.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`;)`
`10:36.00`	`[Ammo]`	`haha`
`10:36.13`	`ravagernl`	`hey can anyone look at this for a second: http://pastey.net/9029`
`10:36.35`	`ravagernl`	`I keep getting an error UpdatePVP is nil`
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`10:38.18`	`ravagernl`	`anyone?`
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`10:39.49`	`knarf^_^`	`hmm, anyone used WoW UI Designer from wowinterface.com ? :>`
`10:39.52`	`Stephmw`	`mornin`
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`10:40.44`	`[Ammo]`	`why would you use that?`
`10:41.05`	`[Ammo]`	`get tinypad or whatever ingame lua thing and run your layouting code in it until you're satisfied`
`10:41.47`	`knarf-`	`[Ammo] to make interface :P`
`10:42.11`	`knarf-`	`or gui, or whatever the correct term is theese days for the frames :)`
`10:42.17`	`[Ammo]`	`that wow ui designer produces xml`
`10:43.04`	`[Ammo]`	`not a fan of xml`
`10:43.10`	`knarf-`	`darn, had hoped it could do both`
`10:43.32`	`knarf-`	`was considering writing my own designer who could output the code for createframe and such :)`
`10:44.28`	`knarf-`	`sort of a way for me to learn creating gui better :)`
`10:44.43`	`knarf-`	`Not sure if it is just a waste of time though :P`
`10:48.38`	`knarf-`	`[Ammo] think anyone would use such a thing?`
`10:50.35`	`vhaarr`	`knarf-: I question your ability to create such a tool.`
`10:51.05`	`knarf-`	`vhaarr and why is that? :)`
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`10:52.25`	`ravagernl`	`dewdrop/waterfall>xml ui's`
`10:53.14`	`ravagernl`	`the only two authors that really know how to make GUI's are possibly gello and cladhaire`
`10:53.20`	`ravagernl`	`i think`
`10:53.46`	`vhaarr`	`I disagree strongly.`
`10:54.37`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I'd maybe credit gello with that level of knowledge, I dunno about Clad. I'd definitely say it'd be far more than just 2 (any two, not specifically those 2).`
`10:55.11`	`Dynom`	`well actually all ui's on a computer (displayed on screen) are agui for that I can think of`
`10:55.14`	`Dynom`	`a gui*`
`10:56.03`	`Bruners`	`is it possible to supress the info about a received note in carto?`
`10:56.23`	`knarf-`	`vhaarr why do you question my ability to create such a thing? :)`
`10:56.45`	`vhaarr`	`knarf-: Because I don't know if you can code :)`
`10:57.29`	`knarf-`	`vhaarr I can but not really been doing many wow addons, and not any gui at all :P`
`10:58.20`	`knarf-`	`hence why i'm always asking questions in here :)`
`10:58.38`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`vhaarr knows I can't code worth a flip.`
`10:58.56`	`knarf-`	`I got a bidding system done for my guild, only thing I need to make now is the gui :P`
`10:59.22`	`knarf-`	`and it is taking AGES, cause I need to figgure out how it works first :P`
`10:59.29`	`knarf-`	`ZealotOnAStick hehe :)`
`11:00.09`	`ravagernl`	`vhaarr: I wonder why you disagree on that then?`
`11:02.51`	`ckknight`	`Bruners: yea`
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`11:02.57`	`ckknight`	`Bruners: there's an option somewhere`
`11:03.02`	`ckknight`	`don't ask further, though`
`11:03.08`	`Bruners`	`hehe`
`11:03.26`	`Bruners`	`its getting kind of annoying when my guildes are picking flowers`
`11:03.34`	`knarf-`	`Bruners you can`
`11:03.50`	`knarf-`	`think it is under Notes`
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`11:04.44`	`Dynom`	`I found a place, where we can boogie!`
`11:04.59`	`Bruners`	`knarf-: correct, thanks :)`
`11:05.01`	`ravagernl`	`where`
`11:05.04`	`weab`	`booogie tonight!`
`11:05.39`	`knarf-`	`Bruners no problem :) I enabled it myself because I wanted to know WHEN ppl send me notes :P`
`11:06.06`	`knarf-`	`but then again, noone have shared their database with me, I on the other hand have shared mine a couple of times :D`
`11:06.26`	`Bruners`	`knarf-: its nice to know when your getting notes, but not 3 lines each 5 second :)`
`11:06.49`	`knarf-`	`Bruners ye, it gets quite spammy :P`
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`11:08.37`	`Dynom`	`weab: ^^`
`11:08.48`	`weab`	`;D`
`11:09.06`	`knarf-`	`You got a tail?!`
`11:10.39`	`Dynom`	`yeah, so do you`
`11:10.52`	`knarf-`	`Are you sure about that?`
`11:10.58`	`weab`	`i see it.`
`11:11.01`	`weab`	`it's sticking out`
`11:11.04`	`Dynom`	`knarf-: 100%`
`11:11.19`	`weab`	`knarf with a tail -`
`11:11.22`	`Dynom`	`but it's better to not wanting to see it`
`11:11.23`	`weab`	`it's cute`
`11:11.44`	`Dynom`	`since you have to cut yourself open and hold a mirror and stuff`
`11:12.35`	`knarf-`	`Did I mention the crowd in here scares me sometimes?`
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`11:14.24`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r30799 10SRA/ (SRA.lua SRA.xml): SRA: ARSe?`
`11:16.28`	`ravagernl`	`lol [ammo] why are you coding another raidassist`
`11:16.51`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not a raidassist`
`11:18.36`	`Bruners`	`at what level can you train proffesions above 300?`
`11:18.48`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`50`
`11:20.50`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`You'd have to be summoned to outland though.`
`11:21.02`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`as you can't go through the portal until 58.`
`11:21.08`	`Bruners`	`yep`
`11:21.13`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`hmm. Or portalled, I suppose.`
`11:23.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmm.. Is it just me or does sg-1 reuse farscape props like guns...`
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`11:24.26`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`props, actors . . .`
`11:24.30`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`same diff.`
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`11:24.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`lol`
`11:25.16`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Both were shot primarily in vancouver I think, probably the same studios (I could be wrong on this).`
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`11:28.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`farscape was filmed mostly in New Zealand and australia`
`11:28.59`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I`
`11:29.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I'm reasonably sure, at least.`
`11:30.16`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I think you're right, actually. Glad I threw in that disclaimer.`
`11:30.34`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Probably just SciFi reusing props then.`
`11:30.39`	`evl`	`lol`
`11:30.44`	`evl`	`Giev link to healing tutorial`
`11:30.54`	`evl`	`2.5 years playing rogue hasn't exactly sharpened my Priest skills`
`11:30.59`	`evl`	`"WTF PRIEST? STOP DOTTING"`
`11:31.01`	`evl`	`I lol'ed`
`11:31.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ZealotOnAStick: yeah, that's what I figured.`
`11:32.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`evl: spec into holy nova. Jump around spamming it pretending you're a mage. :D`
`11:32.24`	`evl`	`I haven't played mage either`
`11:32.24`	`Srosh`	`someone else got a prob with corkfu recently?`
`11:32.26`	`evl`	`but I do have 4 level 60 rogues and one level 70 rogue :)`
`11:32.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`evl: it's easy, just jump around like an idiot spamming arcane explosion. :D`
`11:33.21`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r30800 10Cutup/ (Cutup.lua modules/LightFingers.lua modules/TickToxin.lua): Cutup: Tweaks.`
`11:33.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I kind of miss playing a rogue.`
`11:34.07`	`evl`	`rogue nvm cleave + sweeping dead`
`11:34.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`lol, yeah, and that's why I -don't- miss playing a rogue.`
`11:35.14`	`xlvii`	`evl, what level is your priest? ;p`
`11:35.27`	`evl`	`18!`
`11:35.45`	`evl`	`I took the dranei priest cause she has a HUGE unnatural rack`
`11:35.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`lol, at level 18 there's not much more then spamming lesser heal a bunch`
`11:36.40`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r30801 10Cutup/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Cutup: Don't create anything if the player is not a rogue.`
`11:36.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`also.. mmm.. claudia black`
`11:42.32`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r30802 10Cutup/modules/Spam.lua: Cutup: Forgot this module since I had deleted it.`
`11:44.06`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r30803 10Hemlock/Hemlock.lua: Hemlock: Bail early if the player is not a rogue.`
`11:46.46`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5075.new#new`
`11:46.48`	`Industrial`	`in`
`11:46.49`	`Industrial`	`your`
`11:46.49`	`Industrial`	`face`
`11:50.22`	`evl`	`flame posts in a forum about addons for an mmorpg, +10 for geek factor`
`11:51.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`"so... ten out of ten for style, but minus several million for good thinking, yeah?"`
`11:51.37`	`vhaarr`	`<3 HGG`
`11:51.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`:D`
`11:52.14`	`CIA-11`	`03fatherjim * r30804 10loudmouth/ (Bindings.xml loudmouth.lua):`
`11:52.14`	`CIA-11`	`loudmouth:`
`11:52.14`	`CIA-11`	`- The Easter Egg Hunt Continues...`
`11:52.49`	`Dynom`	`is someone actually crying because he got bad karma? or do I miss the rest of the thread`
`11:53.01`	`vhaarr`	`lol`
`11:53.09`	`vhaarr`	`easter eggs ftw`
`11:53.37`	`Dynom`	`ya ^^`
`11:54.16`	`Industrial`	`read the thread its funny. yes its my fault, btw.`
`11:54.34`	`Industrial`	`arr math test in a few :<`
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`12:05.49`	`mitch0`	`didum`
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`12:09.39`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r30805 10SRA/ (SRA.lua libs/): SRA: So you Really Are that daft?`
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`12:10.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`[Ammo]: yes!`
`12:10.46`	`mitch0`	`playing around with commit messages is almos as lame as chatting thru syslog :P`
`12:11.02`	`vhaarr`	`no u`
`12:12.03`	`MoonWolf`	`mitch0, syslog chatting awesome.`
`12:12.13`	`MoonWolf`	`that or two telnet sessions.`
`12:12.21`	`[Ammo]`	`chatting via a screen -x`
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`12:12.47`	`MoonWolf`	`or chatting through a notepad on a vnc'd machine.`
`12:13.08`	`vhaarr`	`that's awesome`
`12:13.35`	`Hjalte`	`"AceModuleCore-2.0: OnInstanceInit cannot be called twice" - What causes this error to come?`
`12:13.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I remember doing that via Timbuktu way back when`
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`12:17.38`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten: ping`
`12:19.14`	`Industrial`	`http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9731/wowscrnshot032307141802rh9.jpg`
`12:19.19`	`Industrial`	`oh meh forgot buffs`
`12:19.20`	`Industrial`	`:\|`
`12:19.29`	`mitch0`	`soo much lock envy on the mage forums...`
`12:22.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Industrial: whats that a shot of?`
`12:22.59`	`Industrial`	`http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/6194/wowscrnshot032307142200dh3.jpg`
`12:23.05`	`Dynom`	`Hjalte: because it get's called twice ?`
`12:23.22`	`Industrial`	`of how I might be laying out the (my) unitframes. They are just frames with color they dont work yet atm`
`12:23.38`	`Hjalte`	`Dynom: Yeah, i'm able to read that, but I was looking for some hints on how to determine what addon was causing it :)`
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`12:24.20`	`Industrial`	`o well back to school for my math test, bbl in 2 hours`
`12:24.30`	`Dynom`	`Industrial: gl`
`12:24.37`	`Industrial`	`ta`
`12:25.23`	`Dynom`	13:12 < [Ammo]> chatting via a screen -x <-- hhaha, reminds me of the good old `talk` times ^^
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`12:27.44`	`Health`	`I think you mean.. the old time late night "talks"`
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`12:32.40`	`Hjalte`	`It seems there is a problem with some of the Ace libraries in the latest Bigwigs; I only get these errors when loading Bigwigs, when i disable it they are gone. http://ace.pastey.net/9045`
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`12:37.05`	`Dynom`	`Health: no, was talking about talkd and wall times`
`12:37.28`	`Health`	`sure`
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`12:43.20`	`ravagernl`	`indy!`
`12:43.26`	`ravagernl`	`my UI pwns yours!`
`12:43.45`	`ravagernl`	`http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03232007123531vu5.jpg`
`12:45.15`	`yacoob`	`Anyone was using http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org/ perhaps?`
`12:45.59`	`evl`	`I give you 10 out of ten for style, but minus several million for screen space wasting and more than 10 useless fubar plugins`
`12:46.06`	`knarf-`	`ravagernl looks decent enough`
`12:46.35`	`evl`	`and visible bars are so 1997`
`12:46.36`	`knarf-`	`the ui ^^^`
`12:46.38`	`evl`	`next!`
`12:46.46`	`ravagernl`	`1997?`
`12:46.56`	`evl`	`even earlier!`
`12:47.01`	`ravagernl`	`wow isnt that old :P`
`12:47.39`	`haste`	`when was it first announced?`
`12:47.41`	`evl`	`i'm exaggerating widly`
`12:47.51`	`ravagernl`	`lol`
`12:48.03`	`haste`	`I agree with evl anyhow!`
`12:48.22`	`ravagernl`	`The textures arent mine by the way, serpentruin but I made an addon for it`
`12:48.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`man, i could never hide my action bars. ><`
`12:48.36`	`ravagernl`	`may seem little to you guys but its a lot for me`
`12:48.50`	`knarf-`	`i'd not want to hide my bars either :<`
`12:48.54`	`Gagorian`	`Bars suck`
`12:49.06`	`ravagernl`	`keybinds?`
`12:49.09`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30806 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - Bucketed events can now pass args all happy-like.`
`12:49.30`	`knarf-`	`even though I use keybindings too, but meh :>`
`12:49.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Of course I use keybinds, but i use the action bars for cooldowns and also to see if I have the mana to cast spells`
`12:49.40`	`Gagorian`	`Anyway I think the viewport is unnecessarily small..`
`12:49.55`	`knarf-`	`I like cinematic viewports :>`
`12:50.00`	`Gagorian`	`It looks pretty decent with those texturestuffs but they just take too much space`
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`12:50.23`	`ravagernl`	`hmm yeah well theyre just not made for widescreen`
`12:50.26`	`evl`	`I mean, less is more truly shines in WoW`
`12:50.33`	`evl`	`more space for killing, less for chatting`
`12:50.51`	`ravagernl`	`meh, dont like minimalistic UI's, but that's just me`
`12:51.09`	`ravagernl`	`playing every strategy game possible just makes you wanna go with a viewport`
`12:51.22`	`evl`	`DOTA?!`
`12:51.27`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30807 10PitBull/ (Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua PitBull.lua WatchdogTags.lua): PitBull - added Watchdog tag system. All font string things use it now, internally.`
`12:51.40`	`Gagorian`	`http://www.saunalahti.fi/~larssaar/ui.jpg`
`12:51.50`	`ckknight`	`wir sitten a ventrilo spiele litte dota`
`12:51.51`	`Gagorian`	`That's about the current UI I use`
`12:51.55`	`Gagorian`	`some changes though`
`12:52.17`	`haste`	`eins zwei guten morgen yi er yi er ich- ich- ich- ich-`
`12:52.18`	`ckknight`	`[Ammo]: there's the watchdog tag system`
`12:52.27`	`evl`	`I'm minimalistic to the poiint where I remove my own name, class and level from the player frame just to "clean things up"`
`12:52.27`	`evl`	`:P`
`12:52.28`	`haste`	`if you can figure out where that is from, you are as insane as me`
`12:52.31`	`[Ammo]`	`nice`
`12:52.55`	`ckknight`	`[Ammo]: I'm gonna say it's a tad more efficient than what agUF has right now`
`12:53.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`evl: well presumably you already know those, so no need to display them ;)`
`12:53.23`	`ravagernl`	`EWWW DOTA`
`12:53.23`	`evl`	`exactly`
`12:53.24`	`haste`	`the system agUF uses is almost a year old tho' :p`
`12:53.38`	`evl`	`less numbers changing = more Zen calm to kill stuff`
`12:54.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`evl: maybe so, but I still cant drop my action bars. /cry`
`12:54.19`	`evl`	`I first only used it on my rogue`
`12:54.23`	`evl`	`then my friend copied my ui after a crash`
`12:54.28`	`evl`	`now he runs without bars on mage + warrior`
`12:54.37`	`haste`	`I use it on my rogue / warlock`
`12:54.40`	`evl`	`blizz standard bars + hotkeys + oCD = WIN`
`12:54.43`	`knarf-`	`not having bars would be weird :>`
`12:54.47`	`ravagernl`	`no theanyway my screen is so large I can play with such large textures, 24'' ftw :P`
`12:54.52`	`haste`	`and shaman before, but I haven't played that char since Naxx came :p`
`12:55.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I dont get how any shaman can play with hidden bars. You have 25+ spells just for totems. ><`
`12:55.31`	`ravagernl`	`yata`
`12:55.41`	`haste`	`I didn't use any totem add-on either :p`
`12:55.41`	`evl`	`wtf is up with ag anyway`
`12:55.45`	`evl`	`updates stopped.`
`12:55.46`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I tried it, it was way to unwieldy for casting secondary totems.`
`12:55.56`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`haste: how. TELLLL MEEEEEEE`
`12:56.03`	`[Ammo]`	`my guildmates keep bugging me about a totem addon`
`12:56.03`	`[Ammo]`	`meh`
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`12:56.14`	`haste`	`NightHawkTheSane: swapping actionbars :3`
`12:56.16`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm tempted to make them PenisPoles :p`
`12:56.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I might try yata again, and dick around with it some. shrug`
`12:56.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`haste: bleh, I never could get the hang of doing that. :\`
`12:56.58`	`ravagernl`	`keybinds = not nice for friends`
`12:57.13`	`haste`	`I play with ESDF, that's not nice for friends anyway`
`12:57.18`	`ckknight`	`[Ammo]: Yata worked for me when I played my shaman`
`12:57.46`	`[Ammo]`	`I don't have a shaman with totems`
`12:57.50`	`[Ammo]`	`but people tell me yata sucks`
`12:57.51`	`Silviu-`	`ckknight Pitbull will have portraits too ?`
`12:57.54`	`[Ammo]`	`without any specific thigns`
`12:58.02`	`ckknight`	`eventually, I suppose`
`12:58.06`	`ckknight`	`it's all modular`
`12:58.13`	`Silviu-`	`ckknight nice nice`
`12:58.15`	`knarf-`	`http://wow.thmsn.dk/ui.jpg <-- my UI :>`
`12:58.16`	`ckknight`	`so it's all about whoever wants to write the module`
`12:58.42`	`ckknight`	`personally, I couldn't care less about portraits`
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`12:59.53`	`evl`	`knarf-: buttons are lile drugs to you yes/no/punani?`
`13:00.10`	`knarf-`	`mhhh, buttons TASTY!`
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`13:01.24`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r30808 10SRA/ (SRA.lua SRA.toc): SRA: By fire be purged!`
`13:02.09`	`knarf-`	`suppose I could hide them, but i'm just used to have them as range check / cooldown, well ye about that :)`
`13:02.19`	`ravagernl`	`simpleraidassist i guess, I dont know why the heck ammo and rabbit are rewriting ora`
`13:02.52`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not simpleraidassist`
`13:02.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`TASTE THE FLAMES OF SULFURON!`
`13:03.07`	`knarf-`	`simple raid announce ?`
`13:03.15`	`[Ammo]`	`SRA stands for nothing`
`13:03.25`	`[Ammo]`	`it could be Sexy Rabbit & AMmo`
`13:03.26`	`Silviu-`	`My UI http://tinyurl.com/29artn :)`
`13:03.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`for those who care, my current ui is here: http://www.asylumsw.com/misc/ui.jpeg`
`13:04.05`	`knarf-`	`NightHawkTheSane I care :>`
`13:04.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`knarf-: <3`
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`13:04.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`The only thing i dont like about my ui right now is that there's just no good place for target buffs/debuffs. ><`
`13:04.52`	`Dynom`	`you have a bird-cage in your bar ?`
`13:04.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`minipet!`
`13:05.15`	`Dynom`	`:-(`
`13:05.22`	`Kaelten`	`http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=54374`
`13:05.29`	`Kaelten`	`woot we hav people :)`
`13:05.40`	`CIA-11`	`03toadkiller * r30809 10AutoBar/ (8 files):`
`13:05.40`	`CIA-11`	`AutoBar:`
`13:05.40`	`CIA-11`	`-Flying Mount localization`
`13:05.50`	`[Ammo]`	`Kaelten read vhaarr's messages :p`
`13:06.02`	`Tornhoof`	`ammo, feel free to change yata to your guildmates needs :)`
`13:06.13`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`13:06.16`	`[Ammo]`	`I can't :p`
`13:06.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`What's wrong with putting my minipet in autobar? /cry`
`13:06.19`	`Kaelten`	`[Ammo]: huh?`
`13:06.22`	`[Ammo]`	`my shamans are level 4 and 5 :)`
`13:06.32`	`[Ammo]`	`[13:18] <+vhaarr> Kaelten: I changed the e-mail on my forum account, and didn't get an "activation email", so I can't re-activate my account.`
`13:07.29`	`Silviu-`	`Nobody say my UI is ugly ? ;(`
`13:07.54`	`ravagernl`	`omg damnit I wished feign death would clear dots like vanish`
`13:07.57`	`evl`	`IS UGLY`
`13:07.59`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Silviu-: your UI is ugly`
`13:08.00`	`Silviu-`	`Thx :D`
`13:08.08`	`ravagernl`	`i just died from a rogue's deadly poison ><`
`13:08.21`	`Dynom`	`thats just sad`
`13:08.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ravagernl: ... since when does vanish clear dots?`
`13:08.32`	`ravagernl`	`since 2.0 I thought`
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`13:08.54`	`Dynom`	`it doesn't afaik, but cos does`
`13:09.06`	`ravagernl`	`or maybe rogues use cloak of shadows + vanish macro, i dont know`
`13:09.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ravagernl: afaik, no, vanish will only remove snares/roots/hunters mark.`
`13:09.20`	`Gnarfoz`	`vanish removes hunter's mark and all snares/roots/`
`13:09.24`	`Gnarfoz`	`bleh`
`13:09.25`	`Gnarfoz`	`:P`
`13:09.35`	`Dynom`	`neither of those are dots`
`13:09.37`	`Bruners`	`its called cheat`
`13:09.39`	`Gnarfoz`	`indeed.`
`13:09.45`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Dynom: well, entangling roots is..`
`13:09.46`	`ravagernl`	`macro then`
`13:09.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`to be sure. ;)`
`13:10.06`	`ravagernl`	`HAH SEE IT KILLZ DOTS`
`13:10.07`	`Dynom`	`NightHawkTheSane: if you want to call it damage.. ok`
`13:10.22`	`Dynom`	`sure.. it removes hp's, thats true`
`13:10.33`	`Gnarfoz`	`removing the snare/root has precedence over wether it also has a dot effect`
`13:10.38`	`Gnarfoz`	`see gnome racial`
`13:10.50`	`Health`	`Escape Artist!`
`13:10.57`	`Health`	`KARATE IN YOUR FACE`
`13:11.32`	`ravagernl`	`ZOMG CHUCK NORRIS`
`13:11.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Dynom: well, it deals damage over time, thus a DoT. It's also a root, so effects that break roots will break it, obviously. I'm just saying. ;)`
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`13:13.37`	`Dynom`	`Anyone got a great alternative to outfitter`
`13:13.43`	`Dynom`	`(no not wardrobe)`
`13:14.06`	`Hjalte`	`Dynom: Closetgnome`
`13:14.21`	`Dynom`	`yeah seen that one, is it really nice ?`
`13:14.25`	`Dynom`	`outfitter stopped I read`
`13:14.30`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30810 10PitBull/ (6 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - separated out the name and class fontstring deals into their own modules.`
`13:14.46`	`ckknight`	`there, now PitBull shows no data without modules`
`13:14.52`	`ckknight`	`which is what I was going for`
`13:15.06`	`Dynom`	`ckknight: ^^ when you gonna make that info page ?`
`13:15.08`	`Nickenyfiken`	`but it shows the frames?`
`13:15.27`	`ckknight`	`Nickenyfiken: a blank frame with nothing on it whatsoever, if that's what you mean`
`13:15.43`	`ckknight`	`Dynom: what info page?`
`13:15.52`	`Dynom`	`ckknight: on wowace`
`13:15.57`	`Dynom`	`the addon 'detail' page`
`13:16.00`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`13:16.10`	`ckknight`	`well, I'd like for auras to position properly`
`13:16.21`	`ravagernl`	`ckknight, what does pitbull look like right now`
`13:16.21`	`ckknight`	`and I still have to do grouping`
`13:16.23`	`ckknight`	`eventually`
`13:16.29`	`Silviu-`	`ckknight i tryed it today but default bliz things were still there`
`13:16.32`	`Dynom`	`ckknight: kk, I'll wait patiently ^^`
`13:16.32`	`ckknight`	`ravagernl: like agUF's ABF (the default) theme`
`13:16.40`	`ckknight`	`it's fully themable, though...`
`13:16.46`	`ravagernl`	`but the main difference is?`
`13:16.50`	`ckknight`	`Silviu-: yea, it doesn't get rid of those yet`
`13:16.53`	`Silviu-`	`Ok`
`13:16.55`	`ckknight`	`ravagernl: efficiency and modularity`
`13:16.59`	`Silviu-`	`ravagernl performance`
`13:17.00`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`13:17.05`	`Dynom`	`bigwigs or deadly_bossmod`
`13:17.05`	`ravagernl`	`cool ;)`
`13:17.20`	`Silviu-`	`bigwigs`
`13:17.21`	`Silviu-`	`:P`
`13:17.39`	`Dynom`	`well many start to switch over to deadly, but I wonder why`
`13:17.42`	`Dynom`	`I like bigwigs`
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`13:18.04`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ckknight: i see`
`13:18.51`	`Dynom`	`oh.. la-vendeta`
`13:18.52`	`Dynom`	`ic`
`13:20.16`	`[Ammo]`	`use whatever addon suits your needs :p`
`13:21.01`	`mitch0`	`btw, does anyone else have sound issues around ethereals? mainly mana tombs and razarry landing (or whatsitsname in blade's edge)`
`13:21.08`	`ravagernl`	`hmm, getting an error from aguf when chaning texture in surfacecontrol`
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`13:22.07`	`Hjalte`	`[Ammo]: I keep getting these three errors when i enable bigwigs (r30761) after having updated all my ace addons. Do you have a clue on what i can do? http://ace.pastey.net/9045`
`13:22.14`	`ravagernl`	`If pitbull can support layouts soon ill change to it`
`13:22.21`	`ckknight`	`ravagernl: it already does.`
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`13:22.35`	`ckknight`	`ravagernl: it's just coded manually, only one layout thus far`
`13:22.43`	`ravagernl`	`i see`
`13:22.52`	`Amadeo`	`How's the latest AutoBar working? can I upgrade yet?`
`13:22.55`	`ravagernl`	`so i can take auf_layouts and take the layouts from that too?`
`13:23.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmm. I need to change my terminal prompt to have timestamps. ><`
`13:23.56`	`ckknight`	`no, ravagernl, I considered agUF's layout system to be flawed and bloated`
`13:24.33`	`ravagernl`	`hmm I see`
`13:25.12`	`ravagernl`	`will it be easier to make layouts for pitbull, if you are familiar with setpoint and lua tables`
`13:25.20`	`ravagernl`	`then in aguf?`
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`13:25.24`	`ckknight`	`yea, probably`
`13:25.35`	`ckknight`	`it's like, point1 = { "LEFT", "frame", "LEFT", 3, 0 }`
`13:25.43`	`ravagernl`	`cool`
`13:25.45`	`ckknight`	`notice how it resembles :SetPoint`
`13:25.53`	`ckknight`	`PitBull's layout system isn't complete yet`
`13:26.16`	`ckknight`	`there's no logic in it, which will be necessary as more modules (such as portraits and auras) come into play`
`13:26.30`	`ckknight`	`and I want the possibility for the user to choose two paths`
`13:26.37`	`ckknight`	`such as auras on the top or the bottom and such`
`13:26.45`	`ckknight`	`but have the settings be arbitrary, really`
`13:26.49`	`ckknight`	`up to the layout designer`
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`13:32.46`	`ckknight`	`part of me wonders whether it'd be easier to just have the layouts be snippets of code, though`
`13:34.01`	`ckknight`	`I mean, is healthBar = { point1 = { "TOPLEFT", "frame", "TOPLEFT", 5, -5 } } _really_ better than frame.healthBar:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", frame, "TOPLEFT", 5, -5) ?`
`13:34.03`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ckknight: does it support Surfaces?`
`13:34.08`	`ravagernl`	`it's easier to use code then to define a layout in a table I guess`
`13:34.36`	`ckknight`	`Nickenyfiken: yes, it uses SharedMediaLib. Currently there's no way to select anything, though, but it'll be easy to add the option`
`13:35.00`	`ckknight`	`ravagernl: seems like if that happens, then fancier things will be viable, such as if statements`
`13:35.10`	`ckknight`	`if there's a portait, allow space for it and such`
`13:35.22`	`ravagernl`	`cool`
`13:35.44`	`ckknight`	`Nickenyfiken: it just assumes the user wants the blizzard texture for now`
`13:35.49`	`ravagernl`	`will sharedmedialib be able to pull textures registered with surfacelib?`
`13:35.58`	`ckknight`	`yes, I coded that in like 2 days ago`
`13:36.03`	`ravagernl`	`:o`
`13:36.13`	`ravagernl`	`youre awesome and so is your addons`
`13:36.25`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ckknight: ok`
`13:36.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`so "are" your addons.`
`13:37.13`	`abbat_w`	`btw`
`13:37.20`	`ravagernl`	`whatever, english isnt my native language`
`13:37.31`	`abbat_w`	`anyone know are exist mod with functionality like 'autoexec.bat'`
`13:37.31`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hmm ok so its SharedMediaLib now... so Surfaces is depricated?`
`13:37.37`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`13:37.39`	`abbat_w`	`for /script executing`
`13:38.10`	`ckknight`	`abbat_w: to run code on startup?`
`13:38.16`	`ravagernl`	`I wonder then also if surfacelib can pull textures from sharedmedialib then :P`
`13:38.24`	`abbat_w`	`ckk, yep`
`13:38.40`	`ckknight`	`ravagernl: yes, I coded that in as well`
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`13:41.31`	`ravagernl`	`going to check out pitbull then and see what its like`
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`13:44.24`	`hugo`	`hi`
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`13:45.27`	`evl`	`http://rumandmonkey.com/widgets/toys/namegen/577/`
`13:45.38`	`xyu`	`good evening gentlepeople`
`13:45.41`	`ckknight`	`ravagernl: not gonna seem very advanced`
`13:45.47`	`ckknight`	`ravagernl: but it's fast!`
`13:45.50`	`ravagernl`	`:>`
`13:45.53`	`ckknight`	`alright, I need to sleep`
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`13:46.18`	`ravagernl`	`heh it's 14:45 over here`
`13:47.02`	`xyu`	`21:50 and now officially my weekend. wewt`
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`13:49.32`	`Amadeo`	`Does anyone use !!!StandaloneLibraries, or are they not supposed to be used now?`
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`13:50.32`	`Bruners`	`got no idea really, but i have it`
`13:51.22`	`Amadeo`	`I'm confused about how it's supposed to work...readme says one thing, but it does another`
`13:51.38`	`Amadeo`	`If I just check it out from WAU, it'll download all the directories and files to my AddOns directory`
`13:51.53`	`Amadeo`	`if I check out from SVN, it'll make empty folders, but then updating without externals through WAU downloads nothing`
`13:53.14`	`Nickenyfiken`	`your not supposed to do both`
`13:53.24`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ether check out from SVN or use WAU`
`13:53.52`	`Nickenyfiken`	`WAU skip addons that is checked out from SVN`
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`13:54.18`	`Amadeo`	`Nickenyfiken: Yeah, but it's not doing what it says in the readme either way`
`13:54.54`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ok hmm`
`13:55.15`	`Gagorian`	`If I use an infinity symbol in the tooltip.. should I expect it not to display properly in certain fonts?`
`13:55.29`	`Gagorian`	`(in case the user uses some custom ones)`
`13:55.36`	`Amadeo`	`Unless WAU is only downloading what I need, but somehow I doubt that :)`
`13:55.52`	`Amadeo`	`yeah, it's not`
`13:56.02`	`Amadeo`	`since I know I don't use uiQuery :)`
`13:56.09`	`ravagernl`	`ckknight you have a double pvpranknum watchdogtag :P`
`13:56.16`	`hugo`	`could anyone add Mongoose to SCT ? ;o like it says Crusader! ;]`
`13:56.46`	`mitch0`	`could someone add the Freeze cooldown to MSBT_cooldowns, too? :)`
`13:57.09`	`hugo`	`what is msbt ;o`
`13:57.16`	`JoshBorke`	`~msbt`
`13:57.20`	`purl`	`methinks msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html`
`13:57.20`	`mitch0`	`a better sct`
`13:57.25`	`JoshBorke`	`a different SCT`
`13:57.29`	`JoshBorke`	`not necessarily better`
`13:57.33`	`xyu`	`Hey guys once i kill 2 more mobs i'll be level 70 on my blood elf pally. /selfpat`
`13:57.33`	`mitch0`	`well, better for me`
`13:57.36`	`mitch0`	`so sue me :)`
`13:57.36`	`Amadeo`	`I prefer MSBT`
`13:57.42`	`JoshBorke`	`xyu: grats`
`13:57.56`	`xyu`	`thanks!~`
`13:58.10`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Amadeo: it will download and update all Libs you have in your AddOn folder even if you need it or not`
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`14:00.19`	`Amadeo`	`Nickenyfiken: Yeah, I don't think it works like it's supposed to anymore`
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`14:01.16`	`Amadeo`	`Unless it's just the wording that's confusing me`
`14:01.47`	`hugo`	`hmm`
`14:01.51`	`hugo`	`i beter stay with sct ;o`
`14:02.34`	`hugo`	`just does anyone know how to add the Mongoose! text same like if Crusader triggers? it has even same animations too`
`14:02.56`	`mitch0`	`hugo: you can do that for yourself in MSBT, if it appears in the combat log`
`14:03.37`	`Health`	`Nice color on your colon`
`14:03.37`	`CIA-11`	`03gagorian * r30811 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:`
`14:03.37`	`CIA-11`	`DrDamage:`
`14:03.37`	`CIA-11`	`-Changed display of casts left over 1000 to infinite (prevents tooltip from growing huge when hovering low rank spells).`
`14:03.39`	`mitch0`	`hugo: there's a demo vid on wowinterface about it. I've done it for frostbite`
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`14:05.44`	`ravagernl`	`now that I think of it ckknight, would it be possible to have different bar textures for health and mana, with layouts, we can then use non square textures and make something funny like icehud with pitbull hehe`
`14:06.24`	`knarf-`	`That would be coool`
`14:07.10`	`ravagernl`	`im getting a bit tired of the two squares for health and mana`
`14:07.40`	`nuoHep`	`hugo, try adding this in your sct_event_config.lua [20] = {name="Mongoose!", search="You gain Lightning Speed", r=128/256, g=128/256, b=256/256, iscrit=1, class={"Warrior","Rogue","Paladin","Shaman","Hunter"}},`
`14:07.42`	`ravagernl`	`would be really cool to have a circle unitframe where you portrait in the center, health left and mana right`
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`14:08.57`	`knarf-`	`it would indeed be col to have the layout to be as custum as you want it to be :)`
`14:09.10`	`mitch0`	`what I miss in MSBT is the ability to configure scroll speed for individual scroll frames (maybe I just didn't look close enough)`
`14:09.40`	`hugo`	`thx nuoHep i go try ;]`
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`14:10.01`	`mitch0`	`so, nobody is missing sound effects in mana tombs then?`
`14:10.19`	`JoshBorke`	`mitch0: it's in there`
`14:10.29`	`mitch0`	`the sound effects? where?`
`14:10.40`	`mitch0`	`:)`
`14:10.40`	`JoshBorke`	`mitch0: the individual speed settings in MSBT`
`14:11.35`	`mitch0`	`I'll go check again. as far as I remember I could only change the path length of the scroll and that automagically adjusted the scroll speed. but probly I missed something`
`14:12.12`	`mitch0`	`I need my cooldowns to stay up a bit longer as I sometimes miss those...`
`14:17.43`	`hugo`	`nuoHep it works, thanks ;]`
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`14:19.49`	`ravagernl`	`vhaarr: Can you maybe add SharedMediaLib to StandAloneLibraries?`
`14:19.59`	`vhaarr`	`ravagernl: SAL is not mine.`
`14:20.02`	`JoshBorke`	`...i just got killed in the area northwest of shattrath and got sent to the terokarr graveyard`
`14:20.40`	`Fisker-`	`i'm trying to fap`
`14:20.44`	`Health`	`nice`
`14:20.53`	`Fisker-`	`the fapping or the dying?`
`14:21.14`	`Health`	`fapping is always nice`
`14:21.52`	`Fisker-`	`true`
`14:21.59`	`Fisker-`	`C&C3 is out :o`
`14:22.09`	`Dynom`	`I wonder how many litres are spilled every day...`
`14:22.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`JoshBorke: the barrier hills? and er.. did you get sent to the graveyard as a ghost?`
`14:23.36`	`JoshBorke`	`NightHawkTheSane: yes and yes`
`14:23.41`	`JoshBorke`	`thanks, i forgot the name`
`14:23.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`JoshBorke: HAHAHAHAHAHA. :D`
`14:24.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`my sympathies. I am, however, greatly amused. I'll remember not to die there in the future. :P`
`14:24.50`	`evl`	`Do you know what perversion is?`
`14:24.58`	`evl`	`The level 2 BS axe`
`14:25.02`	`Dynom`	`I wonder how long of a walk that would be`
`14:25.07`	`JoshBorke`	`NightHawkTheSane: :-P`
`14:25.09`	`evl`	`wtf MS critting people for 4k FTW?`
`14:25.28`	`art3mis`	`i was gonna say "a donkey show?"`
`14:25.33`	`JoshBorke`	`oh well, more time to code`
`14:26.11`	`JoshBorke`	`while i wait on a GM to respond`
`14:26.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`YOu know a GM's not going to help you.`
`14:27.18`	`Fisker-`	`Get someone to queue in BG instead`
`14:27.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`At best, you'll get "This is a known issue, and we're working to resolve the problem, but I cant help you at this time"`
`14:28.03`	`Fisker-`	`sometimes they are sweet to teleport you to the corpse`
`14:28.08`	`Fisker-`	`but usually it's not worth the wait`
`14:28.46`	`Fisker-`	`the price for the Runed Eternium Rod is retarded :/`
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`14:30.03`	`kenlyric`	`uh... i'm confused... shattrath is in terrokar... it wouldn't be that long of a walk.`
`14:30.25`	`Fisker-`	`barrier hills is flying mount only`
`14:30.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`kenlyric: The barrier hills (where he died) is a flying only area`
`14:30.27`	`kenlyric`	`Dying in silithus and ending up in the westfall graveyard? Now that's a walk.`
`14:30.36`	`kenlyric`	`NightHawkTheSane: ah.`
`14:30.50`	`Fisker-`	`WESTFALLED kenlyric`
`14:31.01`	`Fisker-`	`That PTR was the best one ever`
`14:31.04`	`ravagernl`	`that's just Rude if blizzard gm's dont help you then`
`14:31.14`	`kenlyric`	`lots of places you can die that require a spirit rez.`
`14:31.15`	`ravagernl`	`Rude with a capital`
`14:31.23`	`Fisker-`	`RUDE in caps`
`14:31.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Rude with a capital F and U?`
`14:31.50`	`ravagernl`	`lol`
`14:31.56`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hm, rude actually has a u in it. >.>`
`14:31.59`	`Fisker-`	`"=!/¤&"!)&/"!/&¤"!)/&¤")!/¤&"!`
`14:32.01`	`Fisker-`	`FUCKING CRAP`
`14:32.08`	`ravagernl`	`ehhh?`
`14:32.17`	`Gagorian`	`GMs are fucking useless, I've never gotten help from a single one`
`14:32.19`	`Dynom`	`Fisker-: thats one complex regexpression`
`14:32.23`	`Gagorian`	`And I've asked maybe 5 times.`
`14:32.44`	`kenlyric`	`gee, I got two complete character restores from GMs`
`14:32.46`	`Fisker-`	`i just went to shattrath because i forgot to make imbued netherweave bolts for my spellcloth etc.`
`14:32.54`	`Fisker-`	`Then i went back to altar of shadows`
`14:32.59`	`Fisker-`	`and i forgot my primal shadow`
`14:33.11`	`knarf-`	`you suck :P`
`14:33.15`	`nomenquis`	`lol`
`14:33.19`	`JoshBorke`	`yay for BGs`
`14:33.22`	`Fisker-`	`Gagorian usually they're helpful, but almost never in "i am stuck issues"`
`14:33.36`	`kenlyric`	`oh, and a GM reset Goc for me.`
`14:33.39`	`knarf-`	`i've always had help in i'm stuck issues`
`14:33.43`	`Fisker-`	`Their responsetime is way too slow for it to be worth anything`
`14:33.52`	`kenlyric`	`i've never been stuck... the "unstuck" feature works.`
`14:34.05`	`Dynom`	`kenlyric: you mean heartstone`
`14:34.06`	`knarf-`	`atm their responsetime is quick, using span sentry to report gold sellers atleast :P`
`14:34.10`	`kenlyric`	`but dying in a place you can't rez isn't something they can really "fix"`
`14:34.21`	`kenlyric`	`Dynom: nope... unstuck works the normal way lots of times.`
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`14:34.33`	`ravagernl`	`stuck as in died in silithus and being at the spirit healer in westfall eh?`
`14:34.34`	`Fisker-`	`Their pvp policy is retarded too`
`14:34.34`	`Dynom`	`kenlyric: doesn't unstuck just hs you ?`
`14:34.40`	`art3mis`	`http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2007/03/top_15_unintent.html`
`14:34.46`	`vhaarr`	`kenlyric: sure they can`
`14:34.46`	`Fisker-`	`I've seen people be banned for 72 hours for roofcamping and stuff`
`14:34.52`	`Gagorian`	`Fisker-: Usually it takes so long to respond to the 'I am stuck' stuff.. It's just faster to get invite to BG via a friend`
`14:34.52`	`kenlyric`	`not the last time I used it.`
`14:35.01`	`Fisker-`	`and then some fuckers in Area 52 exploit the barrels and roofs in area 52`
`14:35.02`	`kenlyric`	`though, the very last time i used it I was a ghost.`
`14:35.06`	`Fisker-`	`and they tell me i could just go there myself`
`14:35.12`	`ravagernl`	`autounstuck = Invisible Hearthstone`
`14:35.24`	`Fisker-`	`Well thanks a lot for ignoring exploits and thanks a lot for banning people previously`
`14:35.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Fisker-: yeah. that happened earlier today.`
`14:35.50`	`Gagorian`	`The things I've wanted most is.. like if a heroic instance bugs somehow (which happens quite fucking often), a GM could reset a boss or something to make it.. not impossible.`
`14:36.04`	`Fisker-`	`I was once warned for sneaking my way up to a rooftop camper (I'm a fucking rogue i can't even attack from there) and kill him`
`14:36.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I got told "in the meantime call in some friends or guild mates" I wanted to say "it's fucking 3 in the morning, who the hell is on now aside from jackass campers and asian farmers?!"`
`14:36.22`	`Fisker-`	`And now it's "QQ more newb, you can get there, then it's not sploitz"`
`14:36.42`	`mitch0`	`Fisker-: so which one are you? the jackass camper or the asian farmer?`
`14:36.52`	`Fisker-`	`jackass asian farmer`
`14:36.53`	`mitch0`	`guessing from the class, it's probably the former though :)`
`14:36.55`	`nomenquis`	`lol`
`14:37.01`	`Fisker-`	`i'm paladin now`
`14:37.17`	`Fisker-`	`the other incident was from back in the Tanaris/Cenarion Hold days`
`14:37.30`	`Fisker-`	`I think i got 2 warnings for pvp'ing where guards can't hit me`
`14:37.38`	`Fisker-`	`because i went up and killed some fucker standing there for 2 hours`
`14:39.54`	`Fisker-`	`I don't like they don't have a scamming policy either on the EU wow`
`14:40.13`	`Fisker-`	`Even worse is the retards "Well you deserve it if you get scammed"`
`14:40.31`	`Fisker-`	`Believe it or not, not all scammers are level 1 warriors with chinese words in their names`
`14:41.18`	`Gagorian`	`Guild is a pretty good indicator`
`14:41.18`	`mitch0`	`Fisker-: you seem to be the essence of forum whiners :)`
`14:41.50`	`Ironhand`	`can someone recommend a simple addon that can keep a log of mails received, listing at least sender and attached items?`
`14:42.00`	`Fisker-`	`never gonna be a perfect indicator`
`14:42.43`	`Dynom`	`I saw a lvl 70 spamming in eos 2 days ago`
`14:43.35`	`Gagorian`	`Well, I've never met a scammer that's high level and in a reputable guild..`
`14:43.41`	`Fisker-`	`A guy i knew was scammed for crusader mats from a guy that even had the crusader recipe from one of the biggest end game guilds back then`
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`14:44.15`	`Fisker-`	`What was even more retarded was that they laughed at the guy who got scammed and wouldn't even apologize`
`14:44.46`	`kenlyric`	`I just never give stuff to people I don't know.`
`14:45.14`	`Fisker-`	`Well this server is fortunate enough to have a lot of serious guilds`
`14:45.23`	`Fisker-`	`The guild i talked about has since moved :)`
`14:45.28`	`Fisker-`	`good riddance :P`
`14:46.01`	`Gagorian`	`The best thing about my server is that there's one or two guilds that have all the retards/scammers under the same guild tag`
`14:46.15`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
`14:46.31`	`Gagorian`	`On the other hand usually the best deals come from that guild`
`14:46.37`	`Gagorian`	`like in the past crusader recipy for 20g and such`
`14:46.39`	`kenlyric`	`Gagorian: that's helpful.`
`14:46.45`	`kenlyric`	`We have one of those on our server.`
`14:47.01`	`kenlyric`	`You immediately know when you're in a pug to leave if anyone from that guild is in it.`
`14:47.14`	`Gagorian`	`yeah, it's handy :D`
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`14:48.36`	`evl`	`I'm a scammer`
`14:48.43`	`evl`	`I'm a lovemaker, a heart breaker, a mutilater.`
`14:48.55`	`Fisker-`	`you can be a rocketman`
`14:49.06`	`evl`	`And you can be my transvestite bitch Stan`
`14:50.03`	`Fisker-`	`awesome`
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`14:50.13`	`Fisker-`	`OH FAP FAP FAP`
`14:50.16`	`Fisker-`	`Someone from norway has C&C3`
`14:56.19`	`yacoob`	`don't splatter that thing around!`
`14:59.38`	`nomenquis`	`anyone fishing in wow who's here?`
`14:59.49`	`knarf-`	`yes?`
`14:59.58`	`chutwig`	`WoW fishing is wonderful`
`15:00.11`	`chutwig`	`it captures with unnerving accuracy the excruciating boredom of real-life fishing`
`15:00.17`	`nomenquis`	`i'm just skilling up in tanaris, and i noticed that i get two fish every cast. i've never noticed that before, is this normal?`
`15:00.39`	`knarf-`	`does it matter? :P`
`15:00.40`	`Ironhand`	`chutwig: clearly, you haven't experienced Crawdad fishing`
`15:01.02`	`knarf-`	`i'm gonna fish for mr pinchy!`
`15:01.06`	`chutwig`	`Ironhand: you may well be the first recorded instance of a dutchman ever saying "crawdad"`
`15:01.26`	`nomenquis`	`i could not care less about the trash loot in tanaris, i'm just wondering why i'm getting two all of a sudden`
`15:01.42`	`*** join/#wowace Beor (n=opera@178.81-166-220.customer.lyse.net)`
`15:01.43`	`Ironhand`	`chutwig: is there a reason I'm not aware of why Dutchmen wouldn't say "crawdad"?`
`15:01.46`	`nomenquis`	`it sure would be nice if this also happens with the buff fish locations :)`
`15:01.54`	`knarf-`	`nomenquis hehe, true`
`15:02.03`	`chutwig`	`"crawdad" has a very country bumpkin sound to it`
`15:02.12`	`nomenquis`	`so, any explanations about why i'm getting two?`
`15:02.12`	`Fisker-`	`anyone know a good site for searching newsposts (i.e. warez)? :P`
`15:02.28`	`Ironhand`	`aha... well, it's just what they're called in the game - have to admit it's not a word I'd use in daily language`
`15:02.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Fisker-: binsearch.info`
`15:02.43`	`chutwig`	`crayfish would be the usual word`
`15:03.04`	`art3mis`	`fisker releases or links to get them?`
`15:03.08`	`Ironhand`	`I see; never seen any "crayfish" in WoW though`
`15:03.18`	`art3mis`	`and what hypersaid ;P`
`15:03.25`	`kenlyric`	`crawfish is the usual word in english.`
`15:03.27`	`art3mis`	`my fishbot works wonderfully`
`15:03.33`	`art3mis`	`yay autoit scripting!`
`15:03.43`	`nomenquis`	`?`
`15:03.48`	`knarf-`	`art3mis you should give that to me tbh :P`
`15:03.50`	`kenlyric`	`actually, both are.`
`15:03.53`	`art3mis`	`fished the night before in tanaris and got 8 stacks of stonescale eels`
`15:04.07`	`chutwig`	`crayfish is the proper word, crawfish is slightly more localized`
`15:04.12`	`art3mis`	`fished last night in zang and got 5 stacks of sporefish`
`15:04.21`	`Fisker-`	`already knew that one hyperChipmunk :/`
`15:04.28`	`knarf-`	`art3mis did YOU fish, or did your bot do that ?`
`15:04.35`	`art3mis`	`my bot of course`
`15:04.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so why'd you ask?`
`15:04.45`	`art3mis`	`im doing more constructive things like sleeping ;P`
`15:05.09`	`art3mis`	`knarf just go to mmowned`
`15:05.10`	`knarf-`	`i'm getting SO tempted`
`15:05.12`	`knarf-`	`:<`
`15:05.20`	`nomenquis`	`not afraid of getting banned art3mis?`
`15:05.24`	`art3mis`	`and then modify a few colours and get fishbuddy`
`15:05.27`	`art3mis`	`nope`
`15:05.38`	`knarf-`	`I am, thats why i'm not doing it :)`
`15:05.42`	`art3mis`	`the only time someone will report a fisherman as "botting" is if you do it in AV`
`15:06.04`	`kenlyric`	`not true.`
`15:06.04`	`art3mis`	`its not unusual for someone to sit around and fish for hours on end and not talk to anyone`
`15:06.16`	`kenlyric`	`doesn't mean they can't report you.`
`15:06.29`	`art3mis`	`true but it's also VERY hard to prove you're not there ;P`
`15:06.38`	`art3mis`	`thast the beauty of autoit ;P`
`15:06.43`	`kenlyric`	`sure... a GM whispers you, you don't answer.`
`15:06.45`	`nomenquis`	`well, getting reported is not a problem, but it should be easy for the client to spot any programs providing mouse / keyboard input, isn't it?`
`15:06.47`	`art3mis`	`gm response times are REALLY long`
`15:06.54`	`art3mis`	`nope`
`15:06.57`	`kenlyric`	`gm response times are random.`
`15:06.58`	`nomenquis`	`why?`
`15:07.05`	`art3mis`	`autoit behaves 3exactly like you're sitting there`
`15:07.15`	`xyu`	`anyone have a PvP support spec for pally handy? or can make one on wowhead or something? :D`
`15:07.16`	`knarf-`	`nomenquis autoit sends input ti the windows api :>`
`15:07.18`	`xyu`	`i'm not sure how to spec.`
`15:07.25`	`nomenquis`	`still a program can easily spot the difference`
`15:07.30`	`*** join/#wowace trh__ (n=hmmm@e180243254.adsl.alicedsl.de)`
`15:07.30`	`art3mis`	`not really`
`15:07.38`	`art3mis`	`each fish bot behaves differently ;P`
`15:07.46`	`kenlyric`	`just hide the process from other applications. It's not hard.`
`15:07.47`	`trh_`	`hidiho`
`15:07.57`	`nomenquis`	`sure, why not? simply look at where your mouse / keyboard events are being generated from`
`15:07.57`	`art3mis`	`and there is no real difference between it and a live person except the talking ;P`
`15:08.07`	`hyperChipmunk`	`/dnd is your friend`
`15:08.13`	`art3mis`	`heh yup hyper`
`15:08.13`	`kenlyric`	`it's really the logic of the program that determins how detectable it is, not really warden's ugly process finder.`
`15:08.17`	`*** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=folk@ghybel696.krs.hia.no)`
`15:08.17`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ`
`15:08.28`	`kenlyric`	`dnd is the worst thing you can do if you're trying to stay under the radar :)`
`15:08.32`	`art3mis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:08.40`	`kenlyric`	`it says "I AM A BOT" to anyone who is looking for one.`
`15:08.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`lol`
`15:08.48`	`art3mis`	`not really`
`15:08.54`	`art3mis`	`i run around with dnd on all the time`
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`15:09.07`	`art3mis`	`usually with auto reply messages of "no i dont wanna do that instance"`
`15:09.09`	`kenlyric`	`but when you're running around, you're not a bot, are you?`
`15:09.11`	`art3mis`	`<-- priest`
`15:09.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`/dnd chatbox closed, Gone Fishin'`
`15:09.32`	`art3mis`	`i have them when i sit and idle in org shat grinding fishing flying`
`15:09.37`	`vhaarr`	`ShutUp ftw`
`15:09.51`	`kenlyric`	`I just ignore completely.`
`15:09.57`	`knarf-`	`art3mis admirable :>`
`15:10.00`	`art3mis`	`its totally easy to fuck with fish bots though ;P`
`15:10.13`	`kenlyric`	`on a pvp server for sure :)`
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`15:10.16`	`knarf-`	`Ye pixelscanning :P`
`15:10.19`	`art3mis`	`heh even on a pve`
`15:10.33`	`art3mis`	`all ya need is to stand in the frame with the right colour on ;P`
`15:10.51`	`kenlyric`	`color?`
`15:10.57`	`xyu`	`i've reported a guy using a 3rd party bot to farm turtles in hinterlands.`
`15:11.14`	`xyu`	`i even went as far as to fraps it, and post it on youtube`
`15:11.14`	`art3mis`	`yeah it pixel scans for the bobber colours and splash colours`
`15:11.14`	`abbat_w`	`colour... armour...`
`15:11.14`	`kenlyric`	`xyu: killjoy`
`15:11.14`	`knarf-`	`autoit is a macro program that does pixel scanning :)`
`15:11.16`	`xyu`	`and i just saw that said bot yesterday`
`15:11.17`	`art3mis`	`xyu: farming != fishing`
`15:11.21`	`kenlyric`	`art3mis: yours does?`
`15:11.33`	`xyu`	`i know art i've done my share of fish botting`
`15:11.36`	`xyu`	`in every game imaginable`
`15:11.42`	`art3mis`	`mine pixel scans yup, but ive taken precautions to avoid accidently clicking on people`
`15:11.51`	`xyu`	`most pixelscan`
`15:11.52`	`kenlyric`	`the one I used scanned for the little open icon to appear.`
`15:12.00`	`xyu`	`and most use a d3d hack to change the colour of your bobber`
`15:12.02`	`xyu`	`to like bright blue`
`15:12.06`	`xyu`	`for easy recognition`
`15:12.16`	`art3mis`	`yeah mine doesnt do any modding`
`15:12.24`	`xyu`	`many will stack, drop unwanted loot`
`15:12.24`	`kenlyric`	`that would be kinda hard to do herbalism or mining that way.`
`15:12.24`	`beerke`	`Is there an easy way to get the version number of another mod ? For example version number of Periodic Table`
`15:12.31`	`xyu`	`and even log out after a certain # of fish are cought.`
`15:12.33`	`xyu`	`caught*`
`15:12.36`	`art3mis`	`oh speaking of i found a program thats perfect for it`
`15:12.39`	`xyu`	`wuteva`
`15:12.39`	`art3mis`	`Loot Filter ;P`
`15:12.47`	`art3mis`	`lets you specify what to keep and what to autojunk`
`15:13.00`	`nomenquis`	`heck, isn't that sort of crap easily detectable by the client? i always thought they'd do at least some basic stuff on the client to check for bots / hacks`
`15:13.04`	`kenlyric`	`there used to be a pretty good clam opening program, that worked pretty well with autoloot.`
`15:13.17`	`kenlyric`	`nomenquis: sure they do... but why would you think it would be easy?`
`15:13.23`	`art3mis`	`nomenquis: its easy to check but how do you deal with people that behave like bots ;P`
`15:13.29`	`kenlyric`	`most bot programs just pretend to be your keyboard and mouse.`
`15:14.00`	`xyu`	`i heard warden was even removed. but i dont have any source or proof on that`
`15:14.03`	`kenlyric`	`it's only a matter of time if they're looking at a specific kind of bot.`
`15:14.05`	`nomenquis`	`no, like the d3d thing, just once in a while dump what you rendered and look for strange things, like blue blobbers or something like that`
`15:14.06`	`art3mis`	`kenlyric: put clams on yer autobar and have the mouse click on the spot every once in a while ;P`
`15:14.06`	`knarf-`	`not sure autoit can be detected other than repetative behaviour :>`
`15:14.19`	`xyu`	`nah it really can't`
`15:14.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you can shift-click clams to autoloot them`
`15:14.47`	`kenlyric`	`lots of bots aren't really detectable except for repeated activity and people warnings.`
`15:14.55`	`nomenquis`	`why would autoit not be detectable? it has to controll your mouse / keyboard, and you can really figure out that there is software for that installed / in action`
`15:15.11`	`art3mis`	`nope because jits sending the same singles as if you're doing it yourself`
`15:15.17`	`xyu`	`its just like you`
`15:15.17`	`art3mis`	`signals`
`15:15.18`	`Ordog`	`which addon would you suggest for creating itemlink from strings?`
`15:15.30`	`kenlyric`	`nomenquis: lol, unless they make warden a lot more invasive, it's easy to keep that undetectable.`
`15:16.13`	`nomenquis`	`no, it's not that easy on windows. you can figure out where sigals where send / which processes / drivers are doing what etc`
`15:16.21`	`kenlyric`	`until Blizz gets word of the bot, and figures out exactly how it works and hide, and then they build enough detection to find it.`
`15:16.40`	`xyu`	`i just dont think they really care all that much $$$`
`15:16.49`	`xyu`	`oops those are supposed to be periods ;)`
`15:16.56`	`kenlyric`	`lol.`
`15:17.17`	`kenlyric`	`so the first rule if you're going to do that is, write your own, so blizz doesn't care that much about it :)`
`15:17.41`	`xyu`	`plus you know exactly how it works.`
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`15:17.44`	`knarf-`	`I don't wanna risk getting my account banned, i'm such a sissy :/`
`15:18.12`	`kenlyric`	`well, I wouldn't do it because I already got banned once :)`
`15:18.13`	`nomenquis`	`yea, me too :(`
`15:18.54`	`xyu`	`if i ever got banned i'd probably say "thanks" and move along.`
`15:18.55`	`Ordog`	`what they did was observing the memory assigned to wow for unexpected reads afaik`
`15:19.25`	`nomenquis`	`is there any information online on what the do exactly?`
`15:19.25`	`Health`	`They do alot of stuff with Warden.`
`15:19.42`	`nomenquis`	`i mean, did someone already bother reversing warden / wow security stuff?`
`15:20.04`	`Ordog`	`which addon would you suggest for creating itemlinks from strings?`
`15:20.10`	`Ordog`	`sry for asking again :)`
`15:21.25`	`nomenquis`	`w00t, 333 fishing :)`
`15:21.45`	`chutwig`	`only another seven million casts to 375`
`15:21.51`	`kenlyric`	`nomenquis: their is, and it changes constantly.`
`15:22.06`	`nomenquis`	`yea, it's like an exponential increase in the number of casts for every skillpoint :(`
`15:22.09`	`Health`	`nomenquis: I know there was a few articles on rootkit.com about Warden awhile ago.`
`15:22.10`	`kenlyric`	`They can even alter warden while your client is live.`
`15:22.20`	`kenlyric`	`it's not exponential :)`
`15:22.33`	`kenlyric`	`350-375, it's average of 12 successful casts per skill point.`
`15:22.35`	`nomenquis`	`sure about that? :)`
`15:22.40`	`JoshBorke`	`Ordog: GetItemInfo(<name>)`
`15:22.45`	`Health`	`nomenquis: http://rootkit.com/newsread.php?newsid=371`
`15:22.47`	`nomenquis`	`Health: thx, got something to read then while fishing :)`
`15:22.50`	`Health`	`That's a tool to see what they do.`
`15:22.58`	`JoshBorke`	`Ordog: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo`
`15:23.04`	`Ordog`	`thanks`
`15:23.33`	`xyu`	`what battlegroup is Tichondrious(sp) in?`
`15:24.04`	`nomenquis`	`huh? warden runs in userspace?`
`15:24.34`	`krka`	`you can't run in space, there is no friction`
`15:24.38`	`Loki\|muh`	`warden would be a reason to run wow in wine`
`15:24.48`	`nomenquis`	`how stupid is that? if i was to write a bot i'd just write it as a driver then an be completely safe from warden?`
`15:24.51`	`Ordog`	`hum and how can i get random itemids by itemname?`
`15:24.59`	`deltron`	`xyu: look up the server on armory`
`15:25.29`	`Loki\|muh`	`but my wow-windows-machine is only for gaming and not for serious stuff :)`
`15:25.39`	`JoshBorke`	`Ordog: what do you mean? random?`
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`15:25.58`	`xyu`	`How do you spell that server?`
`15:26.08`	`xyu`	`i'm sure i spelled it wrong`
`15:26.16`	`shieldb`	`xyu, Tichondrius is in the Bloodlust BG`
`15:26.27`	`Health`	`I'm sure we have Blizzard spies in here! shush!`
`15:26.35`	`xyu`	`thanks shieldb`
`15:27.43`	`knarf-`	`Health i'm sure your one of... THEM!`
`15:27.58`	`Health`	`:O`
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`15:28.15`	`knarf-`	`Just gotta figure out what them is though :>`
`15:30.02`	`komodo`	`any ideas on this problem: FuBar 2.0 alone enabled, getting "attempt to call gobal 'AceLibrary' (a nil value)" from the local-en-US.lua file`
`15:30.16`	`nomenquis`	`any suggestions for a nice fishing spot besides tanaris to skill up with 334 skillpoints?`
`15:30.35`	`shieldb`	`terokkar right outside shattrath`
`15:30.52`	`shieldb`	`you'll need a lure, but that works pretty decently`
`15:30.54`	`nomenquis`	`still get misses there without a blobber`
`15:30.56`	`knarf-`	`does not matter where you fish`
`15:31.01`	`nomenquis`	`lure i mean :)`
`15:31.04`	`knarf-`	`you cna fish in orgrimmar`
`15:31.07`	`knarf-`	`can*`
`15:31.08`	`knarf-`	`:>`
`15:31.26`	`nomenquis`	`i don't want to get misses, but at the same time i want usefull fish too, so og is not quite the place to go :)`
`15:31.28`	`shieldb`	`yep, but if you're going to be getting 12 catches per skillup either way, I'll take the fish that I can actually sell ;)`
`15:31.44`	`knarf-`	`:P`
`15:32.02`	`nomenquis`	`so, suggestions?`
`15:32.09`	`mitch0`	`nobody sells fish on ah`
`15:32.10`	`shieldb`	`the main thing that you'll get right outside shattrath is golden darters`
`15:32.16`	`mitch0`	`at least on our server...`
`15:32.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Crawdads sell very well`
`15:32.22`	`shieldb`	`yeah, but you can make the food and sell that`
`15:32.37`	`mitch0`	`nobody sells food here either...`
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`15:32.42`	`shieldb`	`I can sell golden fishsticks for around 20-35g a stack usually`
`15:32.48`	`mitch0`	`probly we are a bunch of lazy arses :)`
`15:32.53`	`nomenquis`	`nice`
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`15:33.05`	`deltron`	`golden fishsticks are awesome, I really need to get my fishing up :(`
`15:33.08`	`mitch0`	`(nobody buys them either, so probly that's why nobody sells....)`
`15:33.15`	`nomenquis`	`sooo, are these fishable with my skill already or would i have too many misses?`
`15:33.27`	`shieldb`	`just use the 75 skill lures and you should be fine at 334`
`15:33.42`	`mitch0`	`nomenquis: I had horrible time in terrokar with 275 fishing + 75 bouble`
`15:33.48`	`mitch0`	`+20 pole`
`15:34.02`	`nomenquis`	`cool, the pond outside of shattrath you said?`
`15:34.11`	`shieldb`	`yeah`
`15:34.30`	`shieldb`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27438`
`15:34.35`	`nomenquis`	`me too, thats why i started in tanaris, but after like 300000 yellowtails i can't quite stand the place anymore :)`
`15:34.45`	`shieldb`	`it's the single dot right next to shattrath at 38.8, 22.2`
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`15:35.00`	`shieldb`	`as an added bonus if someone attacks you just run to the guards and the problem solves itself ;)`
`15:35.06`	`shieldb`	`if you're on a pvp server, anyways`
`15:35.07`	`nomenquis`	`thanks shield, going there now`
`15:35.15`	`nomenquis`	`i'm on pve`
`15:35.19`	`nomenquis`	`:)`
`15:35.56`	`komodo`	`is this a help channel?`
`15:36.16`	`JoshBorke`	`komodo: can be sometimes`
`15:36.17`	`shieldb`	`sometimes it is :)`
`15:36.21`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Ack.. I don't get it.. I'm running disembedded, and installed Ace buff groups, and now it's complaining about not being able to find acelibrary.`
`15:36.34`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`all my other addons running dismebedded see acelibrary fine.`
`15:36.36`	`komodo`	`I'm getting that error too!`
`15:36.48`	`komodo`	`except from FuBar`
`15:37.13`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`are you running disembedded komodo?`
`15:37.34`	`komodo`	`hmm, actually I'm not sure what taht means`
`15:37.50`	`komodo`	`that*`
`15:38.17`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`I would redownload all your fubar zips again then from wowace.com/files`
`15:38.26`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`that should fix it`
`15:38.28`	`komodo`	`I'm running FuBar 2.0, all other addons disabled, and i get an error complaning that it can't find the acelibrary`
`15:38.40`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`redownload that will fix it`
`15:38.49`	`komodo`	`hmm, I've tried that a few times, but I'll do it one more time`
`15:38.52`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`If I switch over to running abg embedded it;s fine`
`15:39.18`	`nomenquis`	`are there pools with darters somewhere in this area too? there are none in this pond`
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`15:40.24`	`nomenquis`	`btw, anyone else thinking that the only usefull thing about engineering are the lures? :)`
`15:40.26`	`Shamino`	`good morning/afternoon/evening...whatever applies`
`15:40.49`	`Shamino`	`anyone else have a problem with their chat frame 'jumping' up and down ?`
`15:41.04`	`komodo`	`nope, same error`
`15:41.19`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`How did you download and install so many zips so fast?`
`15:41.27`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`I'm using fubar just fine without error.`
`15:41.27`	`komodo`	`so many?`
`15:41.33`	`komodo`	`I'm just trying to get FuBar working`
`15:41.40`	`komodo`	`does it have dependencies?`
`15:41.46`	`Loki\|muh`	`nomenquis: yes ;) but I'm hoping for engineering patch :)`
`15:42.00`	`nomenquis`	`won't happen i bet`
`15:42.13`	`nomenquis`	`was about to drop when i discovered fishing for myself so i still have it :)`
`15:42.22`	`Loki\|muh`	`hehe`
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`15:42.36`	`Loki\|muh`	`I like it for the jumper cables, too`
`15:42.37`	`JoshBorke`	`~ugt`
`15:42.39`	`purl`	`i guess ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html`
`15:42.53`	`nomenquis`	`i bet they'll add some stupid mail crap (being a mage myself) which requires like 20 primal nethers per piece to engineering and call that a fix`
`15:43.09`	`Loki\|muh`	`hrhr`
`15:43.34`	`Loki\|muh`	`something with primal nether would be nice because I looted one due to a mistake :/`
`15:43.48`	`nomenquis`	`if they however where to add mounts to engineering i'd be a happy camper :)`
`15:43.50`	`nomenquis`	`ouch`
`15:44.10`	`komodo`	`:( man I really wanted to use this instead of titan, what a strange error`
`15:45.11`	`Shamino`	`i'm the only one having a jumping chat frame?`
`15:45.17`	`nomenquis`	`yews`
`15:45.19`	`nomenquis`	`yes`
`15:45.22`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`yes`
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`15:46.01`	`deltron`	`jumping chat frame?`
`15:46.23`	`deltron`	`I've had a sporadic issue with prat where the font size changed`
`15:46.48`	`xyu`	`dammit Grid keeps dissappearing in arenas. o_O`
`15:47.06`	`Shamino`	`yea, its wierd. when i log in, its in its normal place, then over time it will sort of adjust its placement up. and them kind jump/bounce back down`
`15:47.29`	`nomenquis`	`after 20 catches i'f only got one darter there shieldb :(`
`15:47.29`	`Shamino`	`like some mod changed its anchor or positioning.`
`15:47.37`	`deltron`	`hmm strange`
`15:47.49`	`shieldb`	`nomenquis, that's terrible luck :(`
`15:47.57`	`shieldb`	`usually about a third or a fourth of my catches are darters`
`15:48.00`	`Shamino`	`was hoping not to have to go through all my mods, but suppose its unique to me`
`15:48.27`	`Loki\|muh`	`nomenquis: maybe its related to the server time?`
`15:48.39`	`Shamino`	`oh well. on a different note. did GMail get renamed to Postal. and is Postal going to be maintained ?`
`15:48.48`	`Nabucco`	`Guys, in need your Help.`
`15:48.53`	`nomenquis`	`16:47 server time, but i don't think that matters`
`15:49.21`	`Loki\|muh`	`stonescale eel rates changed with time`
`15:49.43`	`Loki\|muh`	`significantly`
`15:49.54`	`Nabucco`	`Since i've updated all my addons via WoWAceUpdater this morning... multiple addons wont work anymore (Prat, some FubarPlugins, MainAssist, Niagara, etc.)`
`15:50.08`	`Loki\|muh`	`my best was 25% I think`
`15:50.24`	`nomenquis`	`going to look for some schools, perhaps i can find some`
`15:51.28`	`nomenquis`	`btw, did they enable fishing in cot1 already? last time i tried i got a no fish to catch message`
`15:51.53`	`Nabucco`	`When i login i get 3 Errors: AceOO-2.0-25921 (FuBar): 728: AceModuleCore2.0: OnInstanceInit cannot be called twice`
`15:52.05`	`Amadeo`	`anyone know anything about auto GPS? :)`
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`15:52.39`	`Nabucco`	`an event error from AG_UnitFrames and another AceModuleCore error (Attempt to call method "IsModuleActive" (a nil value)`
`15:53.06`	`Loki\|muh`	`Nabucco: as WAU delivers _unstable_ _development_ version I would say that it would be best to wait a few hours and update again`
`15:53.10`	`Fin`	`hello`
`15:53.17`	`Nabucco`	`ok thx Loki`
`15:53.21`	`Fin`	`does anyone have a screenshot displaying Violation, please?`
`15:53.32`	`Fin`	`it's for a mate of mine`
`15:53.32`	`Health`	`I use it!`
`15:53.35`	`Fin`	`you do?`
`15:53.41`	`Fin`	`could you make a screenshot for me?`
`15:53.47`	`Health`	`I'm at work!`
`15:53.47`	`Fin`	`oh, by the way Health`
`15:53.53`	`nomenquis`	`it's pretty bugged for me when i'm in a group, does it work for you health?`
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`15:54.18`	`Health`	`I didn't update it for a month or so.. don't know how the most recent version is working`
`15:54.22`	`Fin`	`I have harboured a huge grudge against you ever since I saw that photo of your PC setup`
`15:54.28`	`nomenquis`	`basically if someone in the group also has it and we've synching enabled his values are twice of what they should be`
`15:54.31`	`vhaarr`	`Violation is not finished, you shouldn't be using it.`
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`15:54.49`	`Fin`	`it's essentially condensed hatered combined with insane jealousy`
`15:54.52`	`Fin`	`vhaarr: righto`
`15:55.11`	`Health`	`Fin: You're a bit strange! It's not that spectacular`
`15:55.19`	`Fin`	`Health: hah!`
`15:55.20`	`vhaarr`	`of course, you are free to, but saying things like "it's bugged" won't get you anywhere`
`15:56.06`	`Fin`	`vhaarr: just looking for a damage meter addon for a friend, Violation sounded nice, I'll find something else for now`
`15:56.13`	`Fin`	`Health: however!`
`15:56.37`	`Fin`	`Health: I shall soon regain my preferred level of smugness`
`15:56.45`	`Health`	`Sweet`
`15:57.27`	`Fin`	`Health: ordering my new machine now! :)`
`15:57.34`	`CIA-11`	`03beerke * r30812 10KingOfTheJungle/ (3 files in 2 dirs):`
`15:57.34`	`CIA-11`	`KingOfTheJungle :`
`15:57.34`	`CIA-11`	`- Fixed nil error relating to PeriodicTable changes`
`15:57.34`	`CIA-11`	`- Added upgrade warnings in case of PeriodicTable updates`
`15:57.45`	`Health`	`Hot! I love the feeling of fresh hot hardware!`
`15:57.58`	`Health`	`SPANK ME!`
`15:57.58`	`Fin`	`me too`
`15:58.04`	`Health`	`oh yeah`
`15:58.16`	`Saroz_`	`Is there a mod that lets you monitor a unit in your raid, like dmg on MT`
`15:59.10`	`Health`	`/focus`
`15:59.12`	`Health`	`?`
`15:59.18`	`shieldb`	`Saroz_, like setting up player targets in oRA2?`
`15:59.26`	`Health`	`That too.`
`15:59.55`	`shieldb`	`or if you're using simplecombatlog you can set up an extra chat window and set it to filter everything except events where the source and victim are whatever unit`
`16:00.07`	`shieldb`	`I'm sure any of the other combat log mods could do it, too`
`16:00.30`	`Industrial`	`ravagernl: I disagree,but it is a matter of taste and choosing for less/more functionality (taste).`
`16:01.04`	`Saroz_`	`shieldb, like a combat log monitoring one target`
`16:01.05`	`Saroz_`	`or something`
`16:01.08`	`ravagernl`	`disagree on what?`
`16:01.14`	`shieldb`	`yeah I use simplecombatlog for that`
`16:01.24`	`Industrial`	`ravagernl: your UI paning mine`
`16:01.29`	`Industrial`	`pwning`
`16:01.35`	`ravagernl`	`o lol :P`
`16:01.52`	`ravagernl`	`I was just teasing you`
`16:01.57`	`shieldb`	`like back when we were learning patchwerk I set up a combat log window for each of the tanks so I could take a look at why any of them died during a wipe`
`16:02.01`	`Industrial`	`;P`
`16:04.59`	`Loki\|muh`	`Industrial: half the time you play wow you are arranging your interface?;)`
`16:05.18`	`Industrial`	`more then playing`
`16:05.25`	`Loki\|muh`	`hehe`
`16:05.36`	`mitch0`	`I always think of industrial light and magic when I see your nick...`
`16:05.36`	`Industrial`	`:P`
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`16:06.45`	`Industrial`	`ic`
`16:06.46`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`16:06.58`	`Industrial`	`well I chose it because I love the music genre`
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`16:08.03`	`Industrial`	`its really post-industrial that I like though`
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`16:10.22`	`mitch0`	`I don't even know what that means :)`
`16:10.34`	`mitch0`	`I'm stuck around heavy metal :)`
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`16:11.14`	`mitch0`	`nowadays mostly referred as "rock" :P`
`16:11.59`	`vhaarr`	`god I fucking hate the music they refer to as rythm'n'blues these days, but the original style rnb ftw`
`16:12.46`	`mitch0`	`I used to like drum'n'base for a while, but then it turned out that all the songs are the same :)`
`16:13.24`	`vhaarr`	`haha`
`16:14.20`	`vhaarr`	~seen ag`
`16:14.45`	`purl`	ag` <n=ag`@0x503e793a.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 14h 2m 35s ago, saying: 'uiQuery looks interesting'.
`16:14.45`	`shieldb`	`I bet he was last here saying uiquery looks interesting`
`16:14.46`	`shieldb`	`heh`
`16:14.46`	`vhaarr`	`I know, I know`
`16:14.49`	`vhaarr`	`gah`
`16:14.54`	`vhaarr`	~whalecrit ag`
`16:15.06`	`purl`	ACTION crits ag` with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. ag` dies
`16:15.20`	`Industrial`	`hmm i looked more into it`
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`16:16.19`	`Industrial`	`seems I like aggro-tech, industrial techno, power noise and electronic body music`
`16:16.25`	`Industrial`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_industrial_music_subgenres`
`16:16.36`	`Industrial`	`genres who cares. good music is what counts :o`
`16:16.43`	`Loki\|muh`	`ack.`
`16:18.19`	`vhaarr`	`he's dutch, what can you expect`
`16:18.19`	`CIA-11`	`03jerry * r30813 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.toc: Babble-2.2: Fix Babble-Tradeskill description`
`16:18.42`	`Industrial`	`wuh what?`
`16:19.01`	`Elkano`	`/wave Loki\|muh`
`16:19.07`	`Industrial`	`vhaarr: ?`
`16:19.10`	`CIA-11`	`03jerry * r30814 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added missing french boss`
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`16:19.14`	`vhaarr`	`Industrial: you're not dutch?`
`16:19.21`	`Industrial`	`i am, but what can you expect?`
`16:19.23`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`16:19.26`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`16:19.29`	`Industrial`	`:D?`
`16:19.31`	`shieldb`	`Industrial, http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html ? ;)`
`16:19.32`	`vhaarr`	`that you like insane music`
`16:19.36`	`Industrial`	`oh`
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`16:19.55`	`Industrial`	`looks`
`16:19.56`	`vhaarr`	`since your mind, like, "free", man - from your liberal laws :P`
`16:20.10`	`Industrial`	`and i love it.`
`16:20.42`	`Amadeo`	`is industrial music the stuff with clanking metal and power tools?`
`16:20.46`	`Loki\|muh`	`/wave Elkano`
`16:21.19`	`vhaarr`	`Amadeo: it's all recorded in steel factories and such, I think`
`16:21.25`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`16:22.04`	`Loki\|muh`	`industrial _can_ be very nice`
`16:22.14`	`Loki\|muh`	`and no, I'm not dutch ^^`
`16:22.19`	`vhaarr`	`nonsense, he's a complete fucktard`
`16:22.23`	`vhaarr`	`<3`
`16:22.24`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`16:22.25`	`Industrial`	`<3`
`16:23.05`	`Amadeo`	`vhaarr: haha`
`16:23.18`	`Amadeo`	`I've heard that music before`
`16:23.21`	`Amadeo`	`I couldn't get into it`
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`16:28.16`	`Industrial`	`im so going to lsiten to every song in that guide`
`16:28.25`	`Industrial`	`and write down the genres :P (and read it all ofcourse)`
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`16:29.22`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: You sleep more than that, don't you?`
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`16:32.45`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r30815 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: This event unregistering business is not smart`
`16:33.47`	`CIA-11`	`03trh * r30816 10VanasKoS/modules/DataGatherer.lua: VanasKoS: bug fixed that caused every player on some list to show up as kos in warnframe`
`16:34.37`	`CIA-11`	`03kemayo * r30817 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Don't modify the autowatched table while iterating over it.`
`16:37.41`	`Elkano`	`anyone tested ebbs lately?`
`16:38.05`	`nomenquis`	`elk buff bar?`
`16:38.26`	`Elkano`	`ElkBuffBars, the recode`
`16:38.39`	`Loki\|muh`	`Elkano: no, should we? ;)`
`16:39.12`	`Loki\|muh`	`I can later, if you want me to`
`16:39.27`	`Elkano`	`well, it's getting closer to alpha test :) so some feedback is always wanted ^^`
`16:39.38`	`Loki\|muh`	`ok`
`16:39.43`	`Elkano`	`(maybe I should add the externals and remove LoD)`
`16:40.20`	`nomenquis`	`any cool new features in it compared to the old ebb?`
`16:40.55`	`[TL]Amandria`	`Elkano, i can also test them later if you want :P`
`16:40.57`	`rubik`	`Kemayo: i'm still having problems with questsfu not refreshing on zone change.. it pretty much never does it.. anything you can do at all to trigger that or "make it work"?`
`16:41.15`	`Elkano`	`nomenquis, only a few... seperate groups of bars, cusemizable textures and fonts, bars for pet and target, ... ^^`
`16:41.29`	`rubik`	`it's pretty much the only thing that bugs the shit out of me when it comes to questsfu`
`16:41.53`	`Elkano`	`not all features accessable via menu atm but I'm working on that :)`
`16:41.57`	`Chompers`	`sounds cool, think ill try that out too`
`16:42.20`	`kenlyric`	`bars for targets... yummy`
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`16:42.38`	`kenlyric`	`I'll make the shackle undead bar the size of my screen.`
`16:42.50`	`Kemayo`	`rubik: I think I'm updating on any plausible zone-changing event.`
`16:43.00`	`nomenquis`	`btw, i've seen a strange bug with ebb and rouge poisons. when i've say only one minute left the bar will jump from being pretty empty to full again and then fade much quicker to empty again (fells like ebb does not know how long the posion buff is supposed to last)`
`16:43.28`	`Kemayo`	`rubik: I could throw it onto a delay, in case not everything is always updated when the event fires.`
`16:43.50`	`rubik`	`Kemayo: that's weird.. maybe it has to do with timing, yeah, i was going to say`
`16:44.20`	`Kemayo`	`rubik: You mean the "show current area quests only" option, right?`
`16:44.28`	`rubik`	`because if i open blizz quest log and expand/collapse anything, the questsfu tooltip refreshes`
`16:44.30`	`Prophh`	`any way or another mod that will show Mana Bars in grid/perfectraid? need something that shows mana and hp..beside using unitframes for raids..`
`16:44.37`	`Elkano`	`well, you will have groups of bars. for each group you can set the type of buffs to show (buffs, debuffs, tenchants, tracking) and the target (player, pet, target) whos buffs to show`
`16:44.44`	`rubik`	`yes, i have it set to only show current area.. with details.. if that matters`
`16:45.29`	`Elkano`	`but for pet and target, no times will be shown`
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`16:47.26`	`CIA-11`	`03kemayo * r30818 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Throw in a 1 second delay on zone change before trying to update the tooltip.`
`16:47.44`	`sergio`	`can someone add Babble-Faction-2.2 to the loadondemand.bat`
`16:47.54`	`Kemayo`	`rubik: Let me know whether that works.`
`16:48.03`	`rubik`	`tyvm.. will try it out`
`16:48.14`	`Industrial`	`shieldb: Industrial, synthpop, ebm, electro industrial (i liked most (all) of these tracks/artists so this fits me most), goa, psychedelic`
`16:48.17`	`Industrial`	`shieldb: :-)`
`16:48.33`	`CIA-11`	`03jerry * r30819 10Talented/ (Libs/ Talented.toc): Talented - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)`
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`16:48.38`	`cncfanatics`	`mg`
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`16:50.23`	`CIA-11`	`03kemayo * r30820 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Remove a redundant event registration.`
`16:51.07`	`CIA-11`	`03jerry * r30821 10Talented/Talented.toc: Talented: remove Opt dependency on Talented_Data so that it is not loaded at startup.`
`16:53.42`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r30822 10BigWigs/ (21 files in 7 dirs):`
`16:53.42`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs:`
`16:53.42`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:53.43`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:53.58`	`CIA-11`	`03trh * r30823 10VanasKoS/modules/DataGatherer.lua: VanasKoS: don't c&p unless you're absolutely sure what you're doing.....`
`16:54.11`	`Loki\|muh`	`trh_: lol :)`
`16:54.37`	`trh_`	`:/`
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`16:55.59`	Punkie`	`trh_: with VanasKoS I still sometimes get messages which are too big from the watch frame`
`16:56.21`	Punkie`	`mainly it's: Warlock drains 1200 mana from Dark Pact or so`
`16:57.20`	`trh_`	Punkie`: uh.. if you get the message could you screenshot it?
`16:58.22`	`trh_`	`sounds like blizzard changed something in the combat log stuff, so i'll have to change it too =)`
`16:58.37`	Punkie`	`I will do :)`
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`17:04.15`	`Dynom`	`?lastlog ckknight`
`17:04.17`	`Dynom`	`ups`
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`17:10.32`	`Chompers`	`Elkano: is there anything i have to do to let ebbs function?`
`17:12.11`	`Chompers`	`at the moment i have the blizzard default buff display`
`17:12.12`	`Elkano`	`it's load on demand`
`17:13.04`	`Elkano`	`so you'll have to use a LoD stub like FuBar_ModMenuToFu or try /script LoadAddOn("ElkBuffBars")`
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`17:13.35`	`Elkano`	`and you'll need SharedMediaLib (SharedMedia itself is optional but recomended)`
`17:14.55`	`kergoth`	`or /ace load ElkBuffBars :P`
`17:15.20`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r30824 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Plugins/Sound.lua): BigWigs: Bugfix.`
`17:15.45`	`Chompers`	`would they go into the root dir of ebbs, or should i make a libs folder?`
`17:16.10`	`Elkano`	`they are stand alone`
`17:16.18`	`Elkano`	`so simply put them in the addons folder`
`17:16.27`	`Chompers`	`oh right`
`17:16.30`	`Dynom`	`ckknight: is it suppose to hide the default userframe? (PitBull)`
`17:16.39`	`Dynom`	`ckknight: the target and target of target is rly fast`
`17:16.56`	`Elkano`	`SharedMediaLib is used to handle statusbar textures and fonts, SharedMedia is only a bunch of statusbar textures atm`
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`17:18.29`	`Chompers`	`wow`
`17:18.34`	`Chompers`	`they look great`
`17:19.27`	`stavmar`	`Elkano: how do we take advantage of using the different type of bars, like are there different styles we can use for your bars?`
`17:19.57`	`Elkano`	`stavmar, yes :)`
`17:20.21`	`chutwig`	`why would squeenix keep telling me resetpos is disabled`
`17:20.24`	`stavmar`	`so how do we use them? i dont see a slash command for it`
`17:20.55`	`kergoth`	`man`
`17:21.04`	`Elkano`	`you can eg. set the texture of the bar. also there is a 2x2 matrix for text on the bars where each entry has ist own font in type, size and color`
`17:21.13`	`kergoth`	`i was testing addons on my rogue for the first time in weeks`
`17:21.19`	`kergoth`	`and kenergy's tick wasnt perfect anymore`
`17:21.24`	`kergoth`	`but i dont remember changing anything in the code :(`
`17:21.38`	`Elkano`	`stavmar, there should be a new plugin on yozr fubar/minimap`
`17:21.58`	`stavmar`	`ok i was looking in Niagra for it with no luck let me look at FuBar`
`17:22.04`	`Chompers`	`i like the ability to rename buffs`
`17:22.06`	`Chompers`	`thats great`
`17:22.15`	`vhaarr`	`Anyone know when, during the loading process, guild information becomes available?`
`17:22.26`	`vhaarr`	`Like GetGuildRosterInfo.`
`17:22.35`	`stavmar`	`did you cahnge teh name of the mod Elkano in the SVN, is this your new one?`
`17:22.35`	`kergoth`	`pretty sure wowwiki mentions when that is in its page on the loading process`
`17:22.38`	`Chompers`	`nice that its got a full timer for buffs, rather than before where it was in minutes`
`17:22.40`	`kergoth`	`could be wrong though, my memory blows`
`17:22.41`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`17:22.43`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: I just looked, didn't see it.`
`17:22.52`	`vhaarr`	`If you mean http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process`
`17:23.08`	`Elkano`	`stavmar, ElkBuffBar in SVN is the old one, ElkBuffBars (notice the s at the end) the new one`
`17:23.09`	`kenlyric`	`now that's a good name for a wiki page`
`17:23.38`	`stavmar`	`Elkano: thanks will go and download now, I have been using your bars forever`
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`17:23.40`	`Chompers`	`no way to change the overall size of the bars?`
`17:23.52`	`Elkano`	`:)`
`17:24.21`	`Dynom`	`...s\SharedMediaLib\SharedMedia-1.0\SharedMedia-1.0.lua:75: Attempted to call method 'TriggerEvent' (a nil value)`
`17:24.22`	`kergoth`	`ah, damn`
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`17:24.55`	`vhaarr`	`hrm, I'll just try PLAYER_LOGIN`
`17:24.59`	`vhaarr`	`should be available then`
`17:25.42`	`Chompers`	`Elkano: argent dawn commision buff doesnt work, its just a red bar with the icon`
`17:27.03`	`stavmar`	`Elkano: so I downloaded it and it was checked how do i turn it on?`
`17:27.20`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r30825 10ShutUp/ShutUp.lua: ShutUp: Iterate the guild and friends on PLAYER_LOGIN, not ADDON_ENABLED.`
`17:27.22`	`Chompers`	`wait...its jumped back now...how odd`
`17:27.28`	`Pneu`	`does anyone know of any DKP system where items are priced based on their stats/dps etc?`
`17:27.34`	`Elkano`	`<kergoth> or /ace load ElkBuffBars :P`
`17:27.58`	`vhaarr`	`Pneu: Just price it == iLevel, then?`
`17:28.11`	`Elkano`	`Chompers, wasn't there a bug in WoW itself wrt that buff?`
`17:28.33`	`Pneu`	`vhaarr: that's what i've been thinking, or at least use ItemLevelDKP from the svn which reduces/increases based on iLevel+slot`
`17:28.34`	`Chompers`	`yeah, there could be`
`17:28.41`	`Elkano`	`Dynom, I know what's causing that, still have to figure out how to work around it :/`
`17:28.47`	`Dynom`	`Elkano: kk`
`17:28.58`	`Dynom`	`Pitbull is calling for it`
`17:29.09`	`Chompers`	`they're...so huge`
`17:29.34`	`Chompers`	`being fully raid buffed would fill up 2 screens`
`17:30.18`	`Elkano`	`Chompers, it's only showing how thy could look ^^ you'll be able to scale them down in height and width`
`17:30.32`	`Chompers`	`yeah, no worries`
`17:30.42`	`Chompers`	`you did say its a little rough`
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`17:31.08`	`Elkano`	`Dynom, that happens when the Lib hasn't gotten AceEvent to embed, yet :/`
`17:31.39`	`Dynom`	`Elkano: kk`
`17:31.49`	`Elkano`	`maybe I'll need ck or someone like that to fix it :/`
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`17:33.39`	`kergoth`	`Elkano: why doesnt sharedmedia have sharedmedialib as an external? its unlikely that itll be loaded without it, certainly, but erroring as it would now isnt good either :P`
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`17:33.59`	`Chompers`	`"attempt to index a global 'dat' " line 271 of EBB_Bar.lua count:Infinite`
`17:34.08`	`Chompers`	`when i was messing about with bar locations, i think`
`17:35.40`	`stavmar`	`Elkano: should I be able to modify the setting already or has that not been implemented?`
`17:36.47`	`Elkano`	`Chompers, typo ^^'`
`17:37.13`	`Elkano`	`stavmar: some settings... look at your fubar/minimap. there should be a plugin`
`17:37.15`	`Industrial`	`lol @ chat: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/774/wowscrnshot032307183554og6.jpg`
`17:38.42`	`vhaarr`	`lol`
`17:38.46`	`Imp4kT`	`Sigh, is there a SpellAlert type mod that actually works anymore?`
`17:38.48`	`stavmar`	`Elkano, found it but as per reading in the irc size cannot be changed yet correct?`
`17:39.04`	`vhaarr`	`Imp4kT: WitchHunt has worked for me since it was created.`
`17:39.45`	`Imp4kT`	`can you move it and stuff`
`17:40.02`	`pastamancer`	`it uses sct or msbt for display`
`17:40.18`	`Pneu`	`WitchHunt has the worst docs ever, but it works perfectly :)`
`17:40.30`	`kergoth`	`Elkano: its intended that sharedmedialib will replace surfacelib long term, or will the latter stick around in some form, or only as a transition mechanism?`
`17:40.33`	`kergoth`	`<3 WitchHunt`
`17:40.39`	`shieldb`	`Imp4kT, I've been using SASCT (or is it SCTSA?) and that's worked fine for me for the last few months or so`
`17:40.44`	`Amadeo`	`vhaarr: I've yet to find a Witch`
`17:40.46`	`Imp4kT`	`the description of witchunt put me off :P`
`17:40.52`	`vhaarr`	`Amadeo: me too :<`
`17:41.08`	`vhaarr`	`Amadeo: At least we're looking!`
`17:41.15`	`Amadeo`	`I've been hunting since 05!`
`17:41.19`	`vhaarr`	`so if one comes along, we're ready!`
`17:41.23`	`Elkano`	`kergoth: yes, SharedMediaLib is intended to replace SurfaceLib since it includes all of its features plus more`
`17:41.30`	`kergoth`	`cool`
`17:41.46`	`Amadeo`	`vhaarr: That's probably why they're not around...they know we're out there`
`17:42.02`	`kergoth`	`hm`
`17:42.12`	`Elkano`	`ok, guys, let's check my local working copy ingame and I'll update with some more features :)`
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`17:50.00`	`Amadeo`	`one thing that confuses me about WitchHunt`
`17:50.10`	`Amadeo`	`when a mob dazes someone, it shows that the mob is dazed`
`17:50.32`	`Industrial`	`its alive its alive! >:) http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/3475/wowscrnshot032307184905qb8.jpg`
`17:50.49`	`Amadeo`	`joonit frames?`
`17:51.04`	`Industrial`	`yesh`
`17:51.06`	`Amadeo`	`:)`
`17:51.15`	`Industrial`	`and surprisingly simple too http://pastey.net/9063`
`17:51.41`	`Amadeo`	`"AS IS", I can't use it, it'll ruin my PC!`
`17:51.52`	`kergoth`	`yay for a copyright header and license statement`
`17:52.00`	`kergoth`	`~praise Industrial`
`17:52.07`	`purl`	`All hail Industrial!`
`17:52.12`	`Industrial`	`\o/`
`17:52.24`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`17:52.26`	`sbu`	`wtf - more unitframes?`
`17:52.29`	`Amadeo`	`yeah`
`17:52.32`	`Amadeo`	`bring on the unitframes`
`17:52.34`	`Amadeo`	`we need competition`
`17:52.38`	`Amadeo`	`I think everyone in here should make one`
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`17:52.47`	`Industrial`	`yeah i knida felt like doing that :P mine wont be configurable tho (as is the rest ive made)`
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`17:53.11`	`Industrial`	`more unitframes! theres only like 4 good ones out there right now`
`17:53.27`	`Industrial`	`used to be amazed at what people came up with, not so much anymore :(`
`17:53.34`	`Amadeo`	`LucenUF!`
`17:53.56`	`Amadeo`	`was that the name?`
`17:53.56`	`Amadeo`	`It was Luc-something`
`17:53.56`	`Amadeo`	`I think...`
`17:54.18`	`Amadeo`	`I liked them`
`17:54.37`	`kergoth`	`Fetching external item into 'SharedMedia/Libs/Tablet-2.0'`
`17:54.38`	`kergoth`	`A SharedMedia/Libs/Tablet-2.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua`
`17:54.38`	`kergoth`	`Checked out external at revision 30825.`
`17:54.39`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`17:54.45`	`kergoth`	`tablet-2.0/sharedmedia-1.0.lua ;)`
`17:55.23`	`Kemayo`	`Amadeo: It doesn't show that mob is dazed -- it shows that mob has cast the "Dazed" effect.`
`17:55.36`	`CIA-11`	`03kergoth * r30826 10SharedMedia/ (Libs/ SharedMedia.toc): SharedMedia: fix a copy paste error in the externals, add sharedmedia-1.0 to the .toc.`
`17:55.44`	`Amadeo`	`Kemayo: I guess it's impossible to tell you who was dazed?`
`17:55.49`	`Fisker-`	`aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhh`
`17:55.56`	`Fisker-`	`curse our neighbouring country`
`17:56.00`	`Fisker-`	`i hate you norway!1`
`17:56.09`	`Fisker-`	`(C&C3 is out in norway)`
`17:56.11`	`Kemayo`	`Amadeo: I have no idea. :)`
`17:56.26`	`Amadeo`	`hehe`
`17:56.34`	`Amadeo`	`I just notice it in PvP a lot`
`17:56.43`	`Amadeo`	`I'll be running around and see a mob is dazing, and wondering who it dazed :)`
`17:57.46`	`stavmar`	`which ag_UF Rangechecker works on the SVN?`
`17:57.52`	`Industrial`	`either a hunter or a rogue init? :P`
`17:58.09`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: Have you considered adding a heartbeat sound to kenergy?`
`17:58.20`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: like a feint thud every tick`
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`17:58.57`	`Amadeo`	`I think it might end up sounding funny, I know my energy ticks aren't completely consistent`
`17:59.28`	`Amadeo`	`generally if I time something perfectly at the end of a tick, it gets a little screwy...I don't know if it's kEnergy or if it's just the game`
`17:59.33`	`Amadeo`	`I just assumed it was the game`
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`17:59.54`	`Industrial`	`oh noes its TheKarn all hide shh shh hes coming`
`18:00.45`	`chutwig`	`you're a little ginger beer, aren't you`
`18:00.49`	`Industrial`	`surprise buttsecks!`
`18:00.52`	`Industrial`	`ow :X`
`18:00.53`	`kergoth`	`vhaarr: someone requested that on the forums actually`
`18:01.06`	`vhaarr`	`okay`
`18:01.20`	`kergoth`	`vhaarr: wouldnt be hard to add, though i'm hesitant to allow feature creep. maybe split the core energy tracking out from the interfaces (heartbeat, ticker bar)`
`18:01.27`	`TheKarn`	`...`
`18:01.42`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: ye`
`18:01.42`	`Industrial`	`TheKarn: ^^`
`18:04.40`	`kergoth`	`Amadeo: well, i was testing it last night and the ticks were behaving flaky.. it used to work fine and i dont recall changing anything, but i havent read anything about blizzard changing anything about UNIT_ENERGY, so i guess it must be a kenergy bug that was only recently expopsed. i dunno. i'm investigating regardless`
`18:05.15`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I have to say...I'm really dman impressed with the Coral cache.`
`18:05.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I've served up 20,000 sig requests, which doesn't seem like TOO many...`
`18:05.46`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`...until you realize that each sig only gets requested from my machine once every 12 hours.`
`18:06.16`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So we're probably talking several million sigs served with only a very managable fraction of that to my machine.`
`18:07.45`	`kergoth`	`whats the url to your armory bits antiarc? and is it in the bot yet so you can stop answering that question? ;)`
`18:08.09`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/`
`18:08.11`	`vhaarr`	`~antiarc`
`18:08.13`	`purl`	`i heard antiarc is the destroyer of worlds`
`18:08.15`	`*** join/#wowace Pucmel (n=npucmel@dwarf.dkm.cz)`
`18:08.16`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`...`
`18:08.20`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Where the hell did THAT come from?`
`18:08.23`	`kergoth`	`lol`
`18:08.34`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`18:08.39`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Purl, antiarc is the author of Sanity and Hemlock, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/`
`18:08.41`	`purl`	`...but antiarc is already something else...`
`18:08.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`How do I override that?`
`18:08.49`	`harldephin`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z359RYJEQGY`
`18:08.56`	`vhaarr`	`Antiarc\|Work: add a "no"`
`18:09.03`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Purl, no, Antiarc is the author of Sanity and Hemlock, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/`
`18:09.04`	`purl`	`okay, Antiarc\|Work`
`18:09.07`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`~antiarc`
`18:09.09`	`purl`	`i heard antiarc is the author of Sanity and Hemlock, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/`
`18:09.28`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Purl, no, Antiarc is the author of Sanity and Hemlock, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ - I guess he's the destroyer of worlds, too, or somethin'`
`18:09.29`	`purl`	`Antiarc\|Work: okay`
`18:09.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`<_<`
`18:11.10`	Punkie`	`purl, punkie rocks and lieks mudkips`
`18:11.31`	Punkie`	`:(`
`18:11.55`	Punkie`	`~mudkip`
`18:11.56`	`purl`	So, punkie` i herd you liek mudkips
`18:12.01`	`CIA-11`	`03jerry * r30827 10Talented/core.lua: Talented: fix to import function`
`18:12.11`	Punkie`	`aha`
`18:12.21`	Punkie`	`purl, punkie is awesome and lieks mudkips`
`18:12.23`	`purl`	Punkie`: okay
`18:12.26`	Punkie`	`:D`
`18:12.34`	Punkie`	`~punkie`
`18:12.36`	`purl`	`well, punkie is awesome and lieks mudkips`
`18:12.40`	Punkie`	`hooray!`
`18:13.14`	`yacoob`	`purl, yacoob?`
`18:13.22`	`yacoob`	`...good :)`
`18:13.24`	Punkie`	`~yacoob`
`18:13.47`	`CIA-11`	`03trh * r30828 10VanasKoS/modules/DistributedTracker.lua: VanasKoS: notify even if player is on kos`
`18:13.59`	Punkie`	`purl, yacoob is a person who LOVES mudkips`
`18:14.00`	`purl`	Punkie`: okay
`18:14.08`	Punkie`	`~yacoob`
`18:14.09`	`purl`	`it has been said that yacoob is a person who LOVES mudkips`
`18:14.21`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`~purl`
`18:14.22`	`purl`	`hmm... purl is one awesome bot!`
`18:14.47`	`azide`	`Antiarc, with your sig generator, there is a problem with forum-format #2 when mp5 is used`
`18:14.48`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`~recursion`
`18:14.50`	`purl`	`well, recursion is tell ubotu about recursion`
`18:15.01`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`azide: Aha, the slash, right. I'll see about fixing that.`
`18:15.09`	`azide`	`Awesome, thank you :)`
`18:15.22`	`azide`	`Great work, your site is incredible`
`18:15.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`purl, no, recursion is an invalid command. See ~recursion.`
`18:15.24`	`purl`	`okay, Antiarc\|Work`
`18:15.30`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`azide: Thanks :)`
`18:16.00`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`~botsnack`
`18:16.00`	`purl`	`Antiarc\|Work: :)`
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`18:17.44`	`azide`	`geez, whoa, you do sanity and hemlock too? /antiarc fan`
`18:18.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Heh, I do indeed.`
`18:19.06`	`shieldb`	`is there a way hemlock can auto-notify you to open the poison window then close it again in the event of a nil list of poisons? (or maybe do it for you?)`
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`18:19.21`	`shieldb`	`boo @ blizzard's crappy tradeskill ui`
`18:19.49`	`kergoth`	`Antiarc\|Work: looks like kenergy's spellbook scan to determine what your abilities cost is failing. its not recognizing any energy expendatures, thats why the tick is flawed now. its acting like it did before i implemented the detailed energy tracking.`
`18:19.55`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`shieldb: It does - that's what the "Hey, I need to scan for poisons" popup after every patch is. :)`
`18:20.00`	`shieldb`	`no, no`
`18:20.02`	`shieldb`	`different from that`
`18:20.14`	`shieldb`	`hemlock knows about my poisons and works fine for that`
`18:20.18`	`shieldb`	`but if I open say jewelcrafting`
`18:20.25`	`shieldb`	`and set it to filter just to gems`
`18:20.54`	`shieldb`	`then when you look at poisons it still says that it's filtering to gems (but it displays trade goods)`
`18:21.08`	`shieldb`	`so you need to set it to all subclasses or to poisons`
`18:21.20`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Oooh, I see.`
`18:21.22`	`shieldb`	`otherwise when you go to buy poison reagents you get a nil error and it doesn't do anything`
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`18:21.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I never use those filters, heh`
`18:21.38`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'll see what I can do with it.`
`18:21.57`	`vhaarr`	`sweet, swfdec can save flash files from the web now, no more URL hunting in the source`
`18:23.52`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`azide: MP/5 fixed. You'll need to generate a new sig URL though.`
`18:24.18`	`azide`	`awesome, thanks, trying it now`
`18:24.27`	`Mechizar`	`Lol, are you referring to the MP/5 on the sig generator?`
`18:24.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yes`
`18:24.43`	`Mechizar`	`Cool, then I won't bother reporting it. :)`
`18:24.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`The slash caused it to break; I fixed that just now.`
`18:24.49`	`Mechizar`	`Yup.`
`18:24.56`	`Elkano`	`Antiarc, as nice your sig generator is, as useless are most settings for eg Druids :( blame Blizzard`
`18:24.58`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Just re-create the sig and use the new URL is creates for you.`
`18:25.06`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Elkano: I know :( Not much I can do though`
`18:25.19`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Elkano: I could add a "Nerfed Times" stat if you like`
`18:25.24`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Times Nerfed, rather.`
`18:25.26`	`Elkano`	`^^`
`18:26.40`	`Elkano`	`what's happening to the ace servers atm? :(`
`18:27.03`	`azide`	`Antiarc\|Work: Works great, thanks!`
`18:27.03`	`Elkano`	`did I miss a scheduled downtime?`
`18:27.20`	`Kemayo`	`Antiarc\|Work: Didn't you say you'd put the code for the generator up on the svn somewhere?`
`18:28.01`	`Mechizar`	`Yeah, I am not seeing the MP/5 fix in the svn version. I am guessing he hasn't checked it in yet.`
`18:29.00`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I haven't yet, no`
`18:29.23`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Just committed it :)`
`18:29.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Kemayo: The whole suite of tools is at http://svn.digitalsentience.com/svn/armory`
`18:29.50`	`kergoth`	`is dev.wowace.com acting up for anyone else, or just me? :\`
`18:30.17`	`vhaarr`	`awww http://developer.mozilla.org/wiki-images/en/c/c6/Moz_ffx_openStandards_1680x1050.jpg`
`18:30.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Hahaha, nice. :)`
`18:31.09`	`vhaarr`	`more resolutions: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Promote_MDC`
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`18:34.01`	`Prophh`	`any way or another mod that will show Mana Bars in grid/perfectraid? need something that shows mana and hp..beside using unitframes for raids..`
`18:34.55`	`vhaarr`	`yeah`
`18:35.01`	`deltron`	`simpleraid heh`
`18:35.03`	`vhaarr`	`someone made a mod that just shows mana bars for the raid`
`18:35.13`	`vhaarr`	`don't remember the name, but it's on the svn`
`18:35.15`	`deltron`	`simpleraid has that`
`18:35.28`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: yeah, dev seems to be down for me, too`
`18:35.44`	`shieldb`	`Antiarc\|Work, how does your armory tools figure out who's keyed for karazhan? Min rep with violet eye from the key quest deal?`
`18:36.13`	`*** join/#wowace NinjaChimp (n=chemp@host81-155-246-165.range81-155.btcentralplus.com)`
`18:36.41`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yup.`
`18:36.52`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`1850 min rep, which is what non-humans have after completing the keying questline.`
`18:37.08`	`vhaarr`	`forums are down as well, it seems`
`18:37.11`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: poke`
`18:37.34`	`shieldb`	`now if only the armory had something for determining the later attunement steps :)`
`18:39.02`	`Mechizar`	`There is no other way to get VE rep, so that should work like a charm.`
`18:39.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Precisely :)`
`18:40.11`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`18:41.10`	`Amadeo`	`sup ck`
`18:41.20`	`ckknight`	`gonna go get some breakfast`
`18:41.26`	`Amadeo`	`bring your PitBull`
`18:41.46`	`TheKarn`	`anyone seen kaelten around?`
`18:42.53`	`Prophh`	`hmm wheres simpleraid?? can't find it on wowace.com/files`
`18:44.17`	`Ominous`	`has wowace just gone down?`
`18:44.28`	`Industrial`	`sergio: how you doin mate`
`18:44.48`	`sergio`	`well`
`18:45.05`	`sergio`	`still working on that ui?`
`18:45.31`	`*** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@shandalar.xs4all.nl)`
`18:46.02`	`Mechizar`	`Antiarc\|Work: So, who is providing all the bandwidth for that many sigs being dynamically linked?`
`18:46.13`	`Pneu`	`the corel cache :)`
`18:49.33`	`Fisker-`	`funny vhaarr`
`18:49.46`	`vhaarr`	`what is?`
`18:49.53`	`Fisker-`	`the wallpaper`
`18:49.54`	`vhaarr`	`:)`
`18:50.11`	`Fisker-`	`And i don't mean that in a good way, you know that`
`18:52.57`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Mechizar: A distributed peer-to-peer caching network :)`
`18:53.04`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://www.coralcdn.org/`
`18:53.12`	`kergoth`	`Antiarc\|Work: ugh, it was me, one of my cleanup commits a while back broke kenergy. the last release version likely worked fine, but not svn. i'll fix it whenever dev. comes back`
`18:53.19`	`kergoth`	`:\|`
`18:53.26`	`kergoth`	`didnt notice since i've been playing my hunter for weeks`
`18:53.26`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`18:53.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Heheh, oops`
`18:53.43`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`"Publishing through CoralCDN is as simple as appending a short string to the hostname of objects' URLs; a peer-to-peer DNS layer transparently redirects browsers to participating caching proxies, which in turn cooperate to minimize load on the source web server. Sites that run Coral automatically replicate content as a side effect of users accessing it, improving its availability"`
`18:53.47`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`" Using modern peer-to-peer indexing techniques, CoralCDN will efficiently find a cached object if it exists anywhere in the network, requiring that it use the origin server only to initially fetch the object once."`
`18:53.53`	`Mechizar`	`Yup, I found the wikipedia article.`
`18:54.07`	`kergoth`	`err, stupid tab completion`
`18:54.17`	`kergoth`	`s/Antiarc.*:/Amadeo/g;`
`18:54.18`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It's a bit slower than direct access, but it's a lot faster than direct access when I'm serving a bazillion hits per second! :D`
`18:54.35`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Plus, it keeps the generator itself fast.`
`18:54.48`	`kergoth`	`nice`
`18:55.08`	`Amadeo`	`kergoth: I missed that earlier, but I hope you find it :) I notice I can make it happen more frequently if I get a hit in just at the very end of an energy tick`
`18:55.25`	`*** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=bla@pD957F47E.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`18:56.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm thats weird, i ran the bat file in the bigwigs dir then did svn up * and now its redownloading all the boss mods into the bigwigs dir`
`18:56.49`	`vhaarr`	`that's not weird`
`18:57.18`	`kergoth`	`Amadeo: its a stupid thing. at some point i changed the energy costs table to index by just spell name, not spell name and rank, since no char has an energy driven ability that has multiple ranks in the spellbook at a time.. but i never changed the tick handling that looked up the cost to not use the rank :P`
`18:57.34`	`Prophh`	`anyone have the download link to SimpleRAID?`
`18:57.37`	`Matrix110`	`Rabbit here?`
`18:57.39`	`kergoth`	`just stupid, i wouldve caught it earlier if i'd actually been playing my rogue`
`18:57.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`i thought svn was suppost to remember local changes like moving folders`
`18:57.42`	`vhaarr`	`Matrix110: I'm here.`
`18:58.00`	`Matrix110`	`but i want Rabbit!`
`18:58.02`	`kergoth`	`Arrowmaster: no, only if you use svn commands to do the operations.`
`18:58.05`	`kergoth`	`svn is NOT transparent.`
`18:58.08`	`kergoth`	`the docs explicitly say that`
`18:58.13`	`vhaarr`	`Matrix110: I am teh wabbit`
`18:58.15`	`Matrix110`	`oh:P`
`18:58.41`	`Matrix110`	`Are you planning to add a option to NRT to disable this "whisper me blabla" message?`
`18:58.53`	`Matrix110`	`because i really like NRT but its kinda spamming^^`
`18:58.53`	`vhaarr`	`Matrix110: I could do that`
`18:59.01`	`Matrix110`	`would be nice`
`18:59.06`	`Amadeo`	`kergoth: You found it already?`
`18:59.14`	`Prophh`	`anyone have the download link to SimpleRAID?`
`18:59.15`	`Amadeo`	`that was fast :P`
`18:59.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`website being pounded too?`
`18:59.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`cant get the main page`
`18:59.36`	`Fisker-`	`RAWR`
`18:59.39`	`Fisker-`	`i want C&C3`
`18:59.40`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`18:59.41`	`Matrix110`	`the wowace page is kinda fucked atm Arrowmaster ye:P`
`19:00.12`	`Fisker-`	`pwned`
`19:00.18`	`Fisker-`	`forums r teh down`
`19:00.29`	`Elkano`	`server being looked at as we speak`
`19:01.34`	`kergoth`	`Amadeo: it was easy to track down. i enabled debugging and cranked the debug level up to 2 and saw that all the energy spending on spells was seen as "Unhandled"`
`19:02.42`	`Prophh`	`need help, can't find simpleraid anyways for download =(`
`19:03.38`	`Amadeo`	`kergoth: That's awesome, I was afraid it wouldn't be able to be solved :)`
`19:03.55`	`CIA-11`	`03elkano * r30829 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua ElkBuffBars.lua ElkBuffBars.toc Libs/):`
`19:03.55`	`CIA-11`	`ElkBuffBars`
`19:03.55`	`CIA-11`	`- added externals (hopefully correct ^^')`
`19:03.55`	`CIA-11`	`- fixed a few bugs`
`19:03.56`	`CIA-11`	`- added a bunch of new things to the dewdrop menu`
`19:04.12`	`*** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@71-218-138-197.hlrn.qwest.net)`
`19:04.52`	`Ominous`	`elkano: is ubbs usable yet`
`19:05.14`	`Elkano`	`Ominous, well, getting closer :)`
`19:05.27`	`Elkano`	`but still marked LoD`
`19:05.36`	`Matrix110`	`btw is there anyway to let my pet(Water Elemental) always attack the target iam attacking without pressing a special button besides my Frosbolt(i know about /cast frostbolt /petattack but the elemental stops casting and starts casting a new bolt if i press it while casting)`
`19:05.45`	`Ominous`	`k`
`19:06.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`Matrix110: try /petattack [target=pettarget,noexists] target`
`19:06.29`	`Elkano`	`but feel free to hav a look at it in its current state and give me some feedback ^^`
`19:06.42`	`Ominous`	`nooo dont say that....`
`19:06.47`	`Ominous`	`i was going to level tonight`
`19:06.52`	`Prophh`	`need help, can't find simpleraid anyways for download =(`
`19:07.00`	`Ominous`	`but now ill end up distracted :D`
`19:08.07`	`sbu`	`Elkano: resizable? :P`
`19:08.17`	`Elkano`	`:)`
`19:08.42`	`Elkano`	`0-500(10)/0-100(5) iirc`
`19:09.06`	`Matrix110`	`ill try Arrowmaster`
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`19:10.10`	`NeoTron`	`any way to make shadowfiends not be cast during Moroes? :P`
`19:10.26`	`nymbia`	`yell louder ;)`
`19:10.32`	`NeoTron`	`other than making sure the priest is dead (which usually is the effect of a shadow fiend :)`
`19:10.35`	`NeoTron`	`heh`
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`19:10.43`	`NeoTron`	`we had an attempt when not one but two of them were used`
`19:10.49`	`sbu`	`eh`
`19:10.49`	`NeoTron`	`of course none of the priests used theirs`
`19:10.51`	`sbu`	`dont use them`
`19:10.57`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`19:10.58`	`Matrix110`	`nice it works thanks Arrowmaster`
`19:11.11`	`kenlyric`	`shadowfiend says who it belongs to`
`19:11.12`	`sbu`	`they just suck... and keep attacking your shackles`
`19:11.15`	`NeoTron`	`sbu: I know, just a bit hard sometimes to get ppl that into their head`
`19:11.20`	`sbu`	`hehe`
`19:11.21`	`sbu`	`:o`
`19:11.40`	`NeoTron`	`it's still funny how, with 3 priests and two shadow fiends, no priest used theirs!`
`19:11.44`	`NeoTron`	`actually I think one of them fessed up`
`19:11.52`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`is it me or are the forums borked?`
`19:12.05`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`: Table './smfdb/smf_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired`
`19:12.06`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`/var/www/forums/Sources/Load.php`
`19:12.08`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`1984`
`19:12.13`	`kenlyric`	`unless y ou've never done any other instances, it still should only take one time to learn that lesson on moroes :)`
`19:12.27`	`Matrix110`	`Nomad_Wanderer the forums are fucked atm yes:P`
`19:13.29`	`kenlyric`	`I learned the shadowfiend lesson on a shadow labyrinth run.`
`19:13.51`	`kenlyric`	`"stop attacking the sheep you fuckhead!"`
`19:14.08`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric: well.. you'd think people would learn not to MOVE DURING FLAMEWREATH pretty dang fast`
`19:14.20`	`NeoTron`	`or "don't stand in the blizzard"`
`19:14.34`	`NeoTron`	`or 'you can't outrun the blizzard - run through the center or counter clockwise'`
`19:14.44`	`NeoTron`	`yet I see people trying to outrun it clockwise in every attempt`
`19:15.03`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`"Don't move during flamewreath" just...is not a hard concept.`
`19:15.05`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Although`
`19:15.26`	`NeoTron`	`I admit I did it once as blizzard fell on my head as a kneejerk reaction`
`19:15.27`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`"Don't stand next to people if you're the bomb" is also not a hard concept, and yet people manage to obliterate a quarter of the raid on a regular basis.`
`19:15.36`	`NeoTron`	`however we had already been blown up and lost a couple of healers..`
`19:15.51`	`NeoTron`	`that is true`
`19:16.10`	`NeoTron`	`we managed to get netherspite down to 4 people having to worry about beams`
`19:16.17`	`NeoTron`	`that lowers the risk of confusion significantly`
`19:16.22`	`kenlyric`	`well, we took don't move during flamewreath a bit to seiously the first time... We all stopped moving :)`
`19:16.35`	`NeoTron`	`well you can move if you're nowehere near one`
`19:16.36`	`NeoTron`	`but..`
`19:16.48`	`NeoTron`	`if I tell people that I'm afraid they will move even when close to one as long as it's not around them`
`19:17.57`	`stavmar`	`I am getting a bug with shared media, do I even need this library? http://ace.pastey.net/9070`
`19:18.58`	`Matrix110`	`normally libaries are LoD`
`19:19.03`	`Matrix110`	`so it doenst load when you dont need it`
`19:19.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`My guild has four parallel Kara groups, but my group hasn't gotten past Aran yet. Though I think that's because we only have two melee, one of whom is a prot warrior.`
`19:19.26`	`Matrix110`	`dunno if SharedMedia is lod enabled`
`19:19.45`	`kenlyric`	`4... man, we're still struggling to for 2.`
`19:20.29`	`kenlyric`	`then again, we still need 1 group to learn things like focus fire and stay away from the glowy thing on curator.`
`19:20.36`	`Matrix110`	`in chinese wow they had guilds doing 10MCs at once:P`
`19:20.42`	`Matrix110`	`and more`
`19:22.05`	`*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`19:22.09`	`Matrix110`	`some guilds there have enough active playing people to create queues on EU Servers dunno if they have higher limits in china^^`
`19:22.10`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Ar oh eff el. http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dailyusage200703jn7.png`
`19:22.14`	`sbu`	`meh`
`19:22.15`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Check out yesterday's spike.`
`19:22.17`	`sbu`	`Antiarc\|Work`
`19:22.21`	`sbu`	`connection timed out`
`19:22.23`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`?`
`19:22.36`	`sbu`	`when using your armory tools`
`19:22.47`	`sbu`	`after few minutes it crashes w/ connection timed out`
`19:23.03`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Trying to do a large guild?`
`19:23.12`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It's likely the summary went ahead and generated.`
`19:23.20`	`Ironhand`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php - : Table './smfdb/smf_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired / /var/www/forums/Sources/Load.php / 1984`
`19:23.49`	`Matrix110`	`Ironhand the admins know about it afaik`
`19:23.52`	`Ironhand`	`ok, thx`
`19:27.03`	`Nickenyfiken`	`PM Kaelten-Laptop maybe`
`19:27.14`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm?`
`19:27.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ya we know and are looking at fixing it`
`19:27.52`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ah sorry nvm :-/`
`19:29.02`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`np :)`
`19:29.04`	`Industrial`	`hawtsauce http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4623/wowscrnshot032307202749oj8.jpg`
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`19:36.03`	`Prophh`	`need help, can't find simpleraid anyways for download =(`
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`19:42.03`	`Relapse`	`forums on www.wowace.com broken or just getting some maintanence?`
`19:42.06`	`*** join/#wowace neenee (i=naenee@a62-251-64-42.adsl.xs4all.nl)`
`19:42.22`	`neenee`	`hm. Someone messed up the forums`
`19:42.58`	`Ironhand`	`19:27:25 <@Kaelten-Laptop> ya we know and are looking at fixing it`
`19:43.07`	`restored`	`Quick question, does anyone know if Tinytip have the option to hide tooltip when in combat ?`
`19:43.15`	`Relapse`	`Ironhand: Cool :)`
`19:43.16`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`forums are back up now`
`19:43.27`	`ckknight`	`Industrial: I should copy your layout in pitbull to spite you`
`19:43.30`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`19:43.38`	`neenee`	`Nope, forums are still messed up`
`19:43.45`	`neenee`	`8: Undefined index: image`
`19:43.45`	`neenee`	`File: /var/www/forums/Themes/default/BoardIndex.template.php`
`19:43.52`	`neenee`	`(main_above sub template - eval?)`
`19:43.52`	`neenee`	`Line: 199`
`19:44.08`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm okit only worked when I was signed in.`
`19:44.21`	`ckknight`	`works for me.`
`19:44.30`	`neenee`	`I am signed in though`
`19:44.38`	`neenee`	`It fails to load properly with both IE and opera.`
`19:45.08`	`Relapse`	`I get the same error. In FireFox. But then I'm not signed in (no account)`
`19:45.11`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`loads in IE and FF when I'm signed in`
`19:45.16`	`*** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@79.177.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com)`
`19:45.16`	`Matrix110`	`forums work for me now`
`19:45.17`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`when I'm not signed in it fucks up though`
`19:45.18`	`Matrix110`	`Firefox`
`19:45.26`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30830 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: .AceModuleCore-2.0 - possibly fix a nil bug`
`19:45.37`	`neenee`	`Well, it doesn't work here :\|`
`19:45.49`	`Matrix110`	`lemme test with IE7 not signed in`
`19:46.12`	`Amadeo`	`You guys notice that AutoBar goes dark a lot, even when it should be usable?`
`19:46.17`	`neenee`	`It doesn't load here with IE7 while logged in.`
`19:46.18`	`Matrix110`	`not signed in its fucked up yes`
`19:46.20`	`Matrix110`	`yes Amadeo`
`19:46.24`	`neenee`	`er wait.`
`19:46.28`	`neenee`	`not logged in with IE indeed`
`19:46.32`	`neenee`	`but logged in, it does not work with opera.`
`19:46.49`	`ckknight`	`yes it does, neenee`
`19:46.51`	`ckknight`	`for me`
`19:47.12`	`neenee`	`Logged in with IE7 it does not work here either.`
`19:47.35`	`neenee`	`Are you using a proxy or such which alters the website before your browser displays it?`
`19:48.03`	`neenee`	`I just upgraded my hardware and installed a clean windows, so I'm using default settings for IE>`
`19:48.05`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`its a template issue`
`19:48.06`	`neenee`	`*/`
`19:48.09`	`Matrix110`	`nope neenee`
`19:48.24`	`neenee`	`ah. Perhaps I am using a different one then.`
`19:48.35`	`neenee`	`I'm using the one with the playing cards`
`19:49.17`	`Relapse`	`Kaelten-Laptop: Strange it works with signed in users. But I'll go back to poking at acecomm using the API docs, teh forum searching can wait :)`
`19:50.07`	`neenee`	`I'm signed in and it doesn't work`
`19:50.19`	`neenee`	`Unless you're not referring to the forums.`
`19:50.46`	`CIA-11`	`03kergoth * r30831 10kEnergy/addon.lua: kEnergy: fix debuglevel option to be hidden when debugging is disabled, and to step by 1.`
`19:51.17`	`CIA-11`	`03kergoth * r30832 10kEnergy/tick.lua: kEnergy: fix energy tracking issues (this will fix the tick behavior problems people have seen lately).`
`19:53.17`	`kergoth`	`<3 bind mounts.. who needs symlinks`
`19:55.50`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I need symlinks. :/`
`19:56.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`neenee now try the forums`
`19:56.40`	`kergoth`	`wow cant see an addon dir thats a symlink.. i checked out the dev.wowace kenergy to my usual code locdation, then mount -o bind /home/kergoth/code/kEnergy /home/kergoth/wow/Interface/AddOns/kEnergy`
`19:56.44`	`kergoth`	`:P`
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`19:56.54`	`neenee`	`Kaelten-Laptop: oki.`
`19:57.05`	`neenee`	`Kaelten-Laptop: works :)`
`19:57.06`	`NeoTron`	`bind mounts rock`
`19:57.07`	`neenee`	`Thanks.`
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`19:57.59`	`Saroz_`	`what bind mounts?`
`20:01.24`	`kergoth`	`see 'man mount' in linux :P`
`20:01.58`	`*** join/#wowace dudevon-away (i=dudevon@dsl-33-180.dsl.netsource.ie)`
`20:03.41`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Someday, I'm going to write a linux app`
`20:03.50`	`kmb2215`	`do bind mounts require riding skill?`
`20:03.51`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It will be called your_battle_stations`
`20:03.51`	`kmb2215`	`:P`
`20:04.00`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So then I can tell people to man your_battle_stations`
`20:04.17`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It'll probably be a calculator or something`
`20:04.18`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I dunno`
`20:04.22`	`Relapse`	`lol @ Antiarc\|Work`
`20:04.41`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Blizz needs to hurry up and expand the armory so I can do more fun things with it.`
`20:05.03`	`kenlyric`	`gimme my bags and recipes, blizzard noobs!`
`20:05.14`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`If they gave recipes I would be amazingly happy.`
`20:06.10`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I wish they'd expose gold levels, too, but they said they won't`
`20:06.15`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`But that would make for some VERY fun charts.`
`20:06.18`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Especially charts-over-time.`
`20:06.24`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`With big red arrows pointing to gold buyers.`
`20:06.57`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30833 10PitBull/ (7 files in 5 dirs):`
`20:06.57`	`CIA-11`	`PitBull - Watchdog metadata no longer stored on the fontstring, but in a local dictionary.`
`20:06.57`	`CIA-11`	`- delFrame will automatically unregister with Watchdog system.`
`20:06.57`	`CIA-11`	`- Watchdog system now handles double-frees and double-registrations fine.`
`20:06.57`	`CIA-11`	`- Also takes in the unit and code upon registration.`
`20:06.59`	`pastamancer`	`and a paragraph on the back of each one?`
`20:07.12`	`kenlyric`	`what would be the threshhold?`
`20:07.23`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I dunno, I'd have to look at the data.`
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`20:08.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm thinking of using my cache data to compile "most popular specs" but I don't know if anyone would actually care about that data.`
`20:08.40`	`kenlyric`	`I would`
`20:08.43`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`But like, have a page that shows the most popular specs by class.`
`20:08.48`	`JoshBorke`	`i would`
`20:09.05`	`kenlyric`	`I'm constantly hunting down raiding pve priest specs to see where people put points.`
`20:09.23`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`See, I just browse the EJ boards when I need spec advice`
`20:09.30`	`kenlyric`	`and most of them make no freaking sense :)`
`20:09.44`	`kenlyric`	`us priest forums are completely worthless`
`20:09.59`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Most all official forums are worthless`
`20:10.57`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm itching to write another armory app, but I don't have an idea I'm really happy with`
`20:10.57`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm thinking something that tracks something over time and graphs it against somehting else over time`
`20:10.57`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`But I don't know what.`
`20:11.27`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`But I really enjoy making purty graphs.`
`20:11.48`	`kenlyric`	`professions.`
`20:12.06`	`kenlyric`	`not really an over time thing, but fun to compare with aggregated data.`
`20:12.13`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`What do you mean?`
`20:12.30`	`kenlyric`	`see how professions break down among all the data you've collected.`
`20:12.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Oh. I guess I could do that.`
`20:12.46`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Prediction:`
`20:12.49`	`kenlyric`	`I guess you could pull that straight from the armory`
`20:12.53`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`98.6% of engineers are at 300-305`
`20:13.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres no good way of getting server stats from the armory is there?`
`20:13.34`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Nope.`
`20:13.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Not yet anyway.`
`20:14.01`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Ooh, I have an idea.`
`20:14.05`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Track arena teams over time.`
`20:14.10`	`JoshBorke`	`yawn`
`20:14.16`	`JoshBorke`	`the time period is too long`
`20:15.01`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It would be neat to look at over a couple of months`
`20:15.08`	`pastamancer`	`can you get the ilevel of the gear from the armory?`
`20:15.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Week to week rating changes against other teams`
`20:15.14`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Hm...lemme check.`
`20:15.27`	`JoshBorke`	`who's got the biggest epeen!`
`20:15.47`	`kenlyric`	`instead of tracking talent builds, track talent points. See if there are any points no one has :)`
`20:15.49`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Oh ho ho`
`20:15.50`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I just stumbled upon something`
`20:16.07`	`pastamancer`	`sum the ilevel (weghted by rarity) for all the items each person in a guild has and track that over time`
`20:16.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml - I need to figure out the search parameter`
`20:16.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`But it looks like they plan to provide a searchable item DB`
`20:16.53`	`kenlyric`	`like, how many mages take that armor talent?`
`20:17.06`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=31000 works`
`20:17.09`	`kenlyric`	`it makes sense that they'd eventually let you link to items`
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`20:19.53`	`kenlyric`	`you could track popular equipment for different classes.`
`20:20.12`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30834 10PitBull/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`20:20.12`	`CIA-11`	`PitBull - add HideBlizzard module`
`20:20.12`	`CIA-11`	`- fix Watchdog tags system to properly update upon population`
`20:20.20`	`JoshBorke`	`Antiarc\|Work: you could compare the item databases between wowhead/thott/alla vs the blizzard one`
`20:20.41`	`kenlyric`	`what would that do?`
`20:20.44`	`Ominous`	`ckknight: can scale be set yet?`
`20:20.50`	`JoshBorke`	`just for general information`
`20:20.56`	`ckknight`	`Ominous: nothing can be set yet :-P`
`20:21.01`	`Ominous`	`:D`
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`20:21.09`	`kenlyric`	`that's what I mean. What information?`
`20:21.14`	`ckknight`	`except position`
`20:21.53`	`kenlyric`	`omg, I need tums in a bad bad way`
`20:21.56`	`JoshBorke`	`if blizzard knows of items that aren't on the other websites, as a form of datamining`
`20:22.34`	`kenlyric`	`it'd be easy for them to say "don't show this item if nobody has it"`
`20:22.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`JoshBorke: I already tried that`
`20:22.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`They have it protected somehow.`
`20:23.20`	`JoshBorke`	`meh, oh well`
`20:23.24`	`kenlyric`	`you'd likely get some items that aren't on those websites if they're rare/new enough.`
`20:24.44`	`kmb2215`	`does anyone know of an item database thats downloadable?`
`20:24.51`	`kmb2215`	`ive written an app to scrub the armory`
`20:25.02`	`kmb2215`	`but it doesn't include items that aren't currently being worn by anyone`
`20:25.19`	`Matrix110`	`just get a complete database for ItemSync/Lootlink orso and convert it to outgame:P`
`20:25.50`	`Matrix110`	`Lootlink is best i guess as it has all info in it`
`20:29.29`	`nymbia`	`or just hit wowhead with 35000 requests to build a list of valid ids`
`20:30.06`	`kmb2215`	`valid ids isnt the prob`
`20:30.08`	`kmb2215`	`i want item stats`
`20:30.19`	`kmb2215`	`and parsing wowhead's html seems more trouble than its worth`
`20:30.28`	`kmb2215`	`the armory gives it in xml`
`20:30.39`	`JoshBorke`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=30007 <-- found by kaso`
`20:31.38`	`Fisker-`	`what's there?`
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`20:31.59`	`deltron`	`item info?`
`20:32.02`	`deltron`	`hmm`
`20:32.12`	`deltron`	`that is awesome!`
`20:32.13`	`JoshBorke`	`Tempest Keep - Raid - Kael Head Quest Tank Neck`
`20:32.15`	`NeoTron`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=12343`
`20:32.20`	`NeoTron`	`more than just worn items too :)`
`20:32.24`	`Fisker-`	`i only get blank pages`
`20:32.31`	`JoshBorke`	`fisker loses`
`20:32.52`	`deltron`	`they making a wowhead killer eh`
`20:33.04`	`kmb2215`	`welcome to march`
`20:33.12`	`deltron`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=31337`
`20:33.14`	`kenlyric`	`yeah, javascript and flash and the quick snap page loads?`
`20:33.26`	`Elkano`	`nymbia, I know at least one valid id that isn't on wowhead`
`20:33.28`	`Fisker-`	`DO NOT WANT deltron`
`20:33.32`	`deltron`	`laff`
`20:33.42`	`deltron`	`DESU`
`20:33.55`	`Fisker-`	`or show me how to see what the fuck you're linking`
`20:34.03`	`deltron`	`you using firefox?`
`20:34.05`	`kenlyric`	`click on the link`
`20:34.12`	`Fisker-`	`no, and it doesn't work there either`
`20:35.40`	`kenlyric`	`I haven't found one higher than http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=31495`
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`20:36.42`	`Fisker-`	`Well the 30007 id must be dropped`
`20:37.02`	`deltron`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=30000`
`20:37.18`	`deltron`	`I wonder what id it's using`
`20:37.43`	`Fisker-`	`it's a shame ashbringer isn't there :(`
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`20:38.21`	`deltron`	`because wowhead and thott both use the same item id`
`20:38.43`	`kenlyric`	`I thought they used ids from the game.`
`20:38.46`	`kenlyric`	`doesn't match up?`
`20:38.50`	`deltron`	`nope`
`20:38.51`	`JoshBorke`	`they do match up`
`20:38.59`	`deltron`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=23849`
`20:39.02`	`deltron`	`oh`
`20:39.03`	`deltron`	`dammit`
`20:39.06`	`deltron`	`i transposed the id`
`20:39.13`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`20:39.20`	`deltron`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=28349`
`20:39.23`	`deltron`	`been a long freaking day`
`20:39.24`	`deltron`	`:(`
`20:39.44`	`sbu`	`uhm ckknight - party & aura display is fux0red ;o`
`20:39.48`	`Fisker-`	`Couldn't you technically just write a script that outputs every hit on the itemids?`
`20:39.56`	`kmb2215`	`yes`
`20:39.59`	`ckknight`	`I know, sbu`
`20:40.01`	`ckknight`	`working on it`
`20:40.02`	`deltron`	`you can data mine stuff`
`20:40.06`	`kenlyric`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=2154 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2154`
`20:40.06`	`kmb2215`	`and then another script that only requerys ids that havent been found yet`
`20:40.07`	`deltron`	`for stuff nobody has I'm sure`
`20:40.18`	`kmb2215`	`theres also the european database`
`20:40.28`	`kmb2215`	`ive found items there that dont show up in the american site`
`20:40.39`	`kmb2215`	`which led me to believe the armory db only stores the items that are need by profiels`
`20:40.59`	`sbu`	`ckknight: kk :)`
`20:41.01`	`deltron`	`dunno`
`20:41.12`	`deltron`	`ken just linked some junk`
`20:41.16`	`deltron`	`I linked a junk item also`
`20:41.44`	`Fisker-`	`kmb2215 nope`
`20:41.46`	`kenlyric`	`which indicates that bags are coming :)`
`20:41.55`	`Fisker-`	`then it wouldn't have stored the book linked before`
`20:42.05`	`Fisker-`	`It's probably just looking at items that exists for all servers`
`20:42.06`	`Matrix110`	`you can find that out pretty easy`
`20:42.11`	`Matrix110`	`search on US for the Legendary Neck`
`20:42.17`	`Matrix110`	`search on EU for the LEgendary Neck`
`20:42.27`	`Fisker-`	`US doesn't have it`
`20:42.33`	`Matrix110`	`US should have it though`
`20:42.40`	`Fisker-`	`Unless the guy stopped`
`20:42.53`	`Matrix110`	`if he deleted the char yes`
`20:42.56`	`Fisker-`	`no`
`20:42.57`	`kmb2215`	`fisker: im interested in your explanation for different dbs having different items then`
`20:43.16`	`Fisker-`	`If he doesn't login the server would discard the item after the next restart`
`20:43.19`	`deltron`	`ok i'm gonna head out now I think`
`20:43.28`	`Fisker-`	`Theory is that it just compiles a database of all items together`
`20:43.31`	`Fisker-`	`from the server`
`20:43.36`	`kenlyric`	`well, wowhead only sees items that the people with wowhead client sees. Same for thott.`
`20:43.47`	`kenlyric`	`blizzard, however, sees it all.`
`20:43.48`	`Fisker-`	`It also uses the cache`
`20:43.51`	`deltron`	`let's make a data mining script :)`
`20:44.05`	`kenlyric`	`I don't think you could datamine, unless they've screwed it up.`
`20:44.06`	`Matrix110`	`T6 isnt visible sadly:-(`
`20:44.20`	`kmb2215`	`neither was T5 when i checked`
`20:44.20`	`Fisker-`	`Might as well make one`
`20:44.24`	`kmb2215`	`and it was definitely in game`
`20:44.29`	`Fisker-`	`Just make a script that goes from 1-99999`
`20:44.36`	`kenlyric`	`somebody has a piece of t5?`
`20:44.42`	`Matrix110`	`yes`
`20:44.46`	`kenlyric`	`I guess you can see the4 item from the vendor, anyway.`
`20:44.51`	`Fisker-`	`it's a job for Antiarc\|Work!!!!!!!!!!!`
`20:44.52`	`Fisker-`	`DUN DUN DUN`
`20:44.54`	`kenlyric`	`nobody needs to have it.`
`20:47.26`	`Fin`	`\|neuron\|: where would you prefer feature requests for nQuestLog?`
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`20:47.58`	`Fisker-`	`<page globalSearch="0" lang="en_gb" requestUrl="/item-info.xml">`
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`20:48.06`	`Fisker-`	`What does globalsearch do? :o`
`20:48.24`	`Guillotine`	`search globally?`
`20:48.37`	`Fin`	`seek in a globluar manner`
`20:48.41`	`kmb2215`	`rather than searching for player x's Hood of Oblivion`
`20:51.17`	`Fisker-`	`need some extension to go ++ each 5 seconds :P`
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`20:57.16`	`Fisker-`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=30095`
`20:57.19`	`Fisker-`	`is that seen before? :o`
`20:57.57`	`Matrix110`	`check alla:P`
`20:57.59`	`Matrix110`	`or wowhead`
`20:58.06`	`Eej`	`hmm`
`20:58.10`	`Fisker-`	`not on wowhead`
`20:58.13`	`Eej`	`does ag still not support party's target?`
`20:58.18`	`Fisker-`	`but it might be from SCC`
`20:58.23`	`Fisker-`	`SSC*`
`21:00.38`	`Chompers`	`SSC?`
`21:00.58`	`Fisker-`	`serpentshrine cavern`
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`21:01.07`	`Chompers`	`ooooh`
`21:01.46`	`Eej`	`guess it doesn't D:`
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`21:03.32`	`kergoth`	`hmm, i wish i could easily scale up the minimap size (with simpleminimap) without scaling up the minimap buttons.`
`21:09.29`	`OverloadUT`	`What the... was one of the layouts removed from aguf? :(`
`21:10.17`	`Eej`	`I'm curious as to whether ag will ever support party target frames`
`21:11.27`	`shieldb`	`OverloadUT, probably`
`21:11.36`	`shieldb`	`there's a secondary mod called AUF_Layouts`
`21:11.47`	`shieldb`	`which includes (I think) all the layouts that were removed from aguf`
`21:19.58`	`Prophh`	`need help, can't find simpleraid anyways for download =(`
`21:20.16`	`Guillotine`	`simpleraid? you mean PerfectRaid?`
`21:20.21`	`Guillotine`	`never heard of simpleraid o.O`
`21:20.28`	`Prophh`	`someone on here said it's on svn`
`21:20.34`	`Prophh`	`yah simpleraid`
`21:20.54`	`Guillotine`	`don't think its on SVN. not in AceUpdater at least`
`21:20.57`	`Ominous`	`ckknight: do you want bug reports or not?`
`21:21.01`	`Gngngsk`	`you should check out SoEasyACavemanCouldDoItRaid, pretty nice`
`21:21.03`	`Guillotine`	`theres SimpleUnitFrames`
`21:21.49`	`Prophh`	`should be a simpleraid too`
`21:22.17`	`knarf-`	`sRaidFrames ?`
`21:23.53`	`shieldb`	`hmm, how long does it usually take from requesting svn access to actually getting set up with it?`
`21:23.55`	`Prophh`	`is simpleraid sraidframes?`
`21:24.12`	`shieldb`	`trying to see if I can't get my stuff checked in before I'm out of town for the weekend ;)`
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`21:26.28`	`knarf-`	`Prophh no one knows, try and check it :>`
`21:27.49`	`Dekuna`	`did something explode and break half the addons, or is it just me? haha`
`21:28.58`	`Loki\|muh`	`its just that you use development versions, I guess.`
`21:30.15`	`Dekuna`	`i ran WAU this morning, and a short list would be cartographer, skinner, closetgnome, simpleminimap, and probably a few more`
`21:30.43`	`Dekuna`	`ran it again with SkipVersionCheck to see if it was a broken lib i could fix, still no luck`
`21:31.03`	`knarf-`	`sometimes deleting the folder first helps too :>`
`21:31.52`	`Dekuna`	`i'll try it`
`21:32.10`	`Dekuna`	`i don't know if there was a major change to any libs, but something is definately wonky`
`21:32.36`	`knarf-`	`ace2 was changed at some point`
`21:32.43`	`Guillotine`	`Dekuna: if only you had told me that a couple mins ago >< Just updated all those same addons (except simpleminimap) with WAU`
`21:33.01`	`Dekuna`	`Guillotine: are they broken as well?`
`21:33.18`	`xlvii`	`does closet gnome change around trinkets (when mounting)?`
`21:33.25`	`Guillotine`	`dunno. logging in right now`
`21:33.35`	`Dekuna`	`Prat and aguf are also screwed from what i can see`
`21:33.37`	`Guillotine`	`xlvii: you can set it to if you use ClosetGnome_Mount`
`21:33.41`	`CIA-11`	`03kergoth 07modular * r30835 10kEnergy/: kEnergy: Create branch for adding modularity.`
`21:37.36`	`Guillotine`	`Dekuna: no, none of mine are broken`
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`21:37.41`	`Guillotine`	`at least not that I can see`
`21:37.46`	`Guillotine`	`what exactly are yours doing wrong?`
`21:38.44`	`Dekuna`	`Guillotine: they are completely non-functional, haha`
`21:39.00`	`Amadeo`	`Strange, WAU still has kEnergy at 27381`
`21:39.10`	`Dekuna`	`i'm basically reinstalling everything though, we'll see`
`21:39.20`	`Guillotine`	`no, mine are working fine`
`21:39.32`	`Guillotine`	`but I have the Ace library as a standalone as well. wonder if that makes a difference`
`21:39.34`	`Amadeo`	`I wonder if it's updating`
`21:39.57`	`kergoth`	`Dekuna: if you're getting errors, paste them. otherwise the bug report is essentially useless.`
`21:40.58`	`knarf-`	`Amadeo wau updates every 20 min , due to the zip files being updated every 20 min. or something like that`
`21:40.59`	`Lyset`	`I've seen similar raidframes as grid but with a wider frame, anyone where it's from?`
`21:41.19`	`Prophh`	`any way or another mod that will show Mana Bars in grid/perfectraid? need something that shows mana and hp..beside using unitframes for raids..`
`21:41.30`	`Amadeo`	`knarf-: Yeah, but I think it's been over 20 minutes`
`21:41.33`	`pastamancer`	`Lyset: it's probably grid`
`21:41.49`	`knarf-`	`[22:33:39] [CIA-11]: kergoth modular * r30835 kEnergy/: kEnergy: Create branch for adding modularity.`
`21:41.55`	`Lyset`	`hmm, is there and option which change the witdh that I�ve missed?`
`21:42.02`	`Lyset`	`or some module I havent seen`
`21:42.04`	`knarf-`	`[22:41:29] [Amadeo]: knarf-: Yeah, but I think it's been over 20 minutes`
`21:42.12`	`knarf-`	`Not yet :)`
`21:42.21`	`nuoHep`	`its a branch`
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`21:42.37`	`pastamancer`	`Lyset: Grid -> Frame -> Advanced`
`21:42.39`	`knarf-`	`that might also explain it :P`
`21:42.41`	`nuoHep`	`you wont see it in awu`
`21:42.44`	`Lyset`	`ah, thanks`
`21:42.56`	`Lyset`	`havent used grid for a while, missed it :)`
`21:43.14`	`pastamancer`	`just about all of the "it looks like grid but not quite" screenshots are usually someome playing with the advanced options`
`21:43.17`	`knarf-`	`I should get my shit together and make a layout for grid so I can use it :P`
`21:43.31`	`Amadeo`	`knarf-: (15:51) (CIA-11) kergoth * r30832 kEnergy/tick.lua: kEnergy: fix energy tracking issues (this will fix the tick behavior problems people have seen lately).`
`21:44.03`	`knarf-`	`Amadeo hmm, no idea then :P`
`21:44.04`	`kergoth`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:44.10`	`Amadeo`	`yeah`
`21:44.24`	`Amadeo`	`kEnergy - Already at rev 27381 - Skipping`
`21:44.27`	`Amadeo`	`hehe`
`21:45.13`	`Amadeo`	`I don't think it's WAU, just the files server not updating`
`21:45.17`	`kergoth`	`ah`
`21:45.35`	`shieldb`	`heh, installing a fresh copy of kEnergy - "Updating to rev 27381"`
`21:46.13`	`Amadeo`	`yeah, files.wowace.com lists those revisions`
`21:47.07`	`Amadeo`	`I'll just wait until its fixed, I don't want to go back to using SVN`
`21:48.16`	`Amadeo`	`Anyone think Team Fortress 2 will ever come out? :P`
`21:48.16`	`pastamancer`	`files is on revision 30828`
`21:48.16`	`shieldb`	`Right after Duke Nukem Forever`
`21:48.21`	`Yinchie`	`tf2 will be out with hl2 episode 2`
`21:48.58`	`pastamancer`	`update in 3 minutes`
`21:49.21`	`shieldb`	`hopefully it'll be more like QWTF then TF:C`
`21:49.32`	`Amadeo`	`shieldb: They changed the graphics up`
`21:49.37`	`Amadeo`	`it's cartoony now, but still appealing`
`21:49.41`	`shieldb`	`yeah I know about the style changes`
`21:49.44`	`shieldb`	`I'm talking gameplay`
`21:50.10`	`Amadeo`	`Team Fortress for Half Life never felt right`
`21:50.12`	`shieldb`	`I played tons of qwtf and tfc never really felt 'right' to me`
`21:50.16`	`Amadeo`	`just the whole physics change and all`
`21:50.19`	`Amadeo`	`yeah`
`21:50.32`	`Amadeo`	`I liked Q3F and such...wasn't the best, but I liked it more than TFC`
`21:50.57`	`shieldb`	`I enjoyed wf more then q3f/tfc personally`
`21:50.57`	`OverloadUT`	`How do you make an event fire?`
`21:51.21`	`Amadeo`	`shieldb: I tried that when it was new, and it was kind of goofy, but I heard it got better`
`21:52.05`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r30836 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: .SharedMedia-1.0: Bugfix.`
`21:52.28`	`NeoTron`	`so if I have the following needs: Able to track attendance (in raid), standby (present but not in raid), absent (missing without notice), leave (missing with notice) and loot given out, but not track actual DKP, what should I use?`
`21:52.36`	`NeoTron`	`both in-game and out-of-game. EQDKP?`
`21:52.50`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r30837 10SRA/ (SRA.lua SRA.xml locales/enUS.lua): SRA: Stylish Ribbon Art`
`21:53.08`	`NeoTron`	`We don't use DKP but want to track attendence such as being there, being on standby is tracked (1 pt per raid I suppose) and items given out (1 pt per item)`
`21:53.09`	`Amadeo`	`pastamancer: I hope you're right, not seeing any change so far :)`
`21:53.14`	`CIA-11`	`03arcuss * r30838 10HunterAEP/ (6 files):`
`21:53.14`	`CIA-11`	`HunterAEP:`
`21:53.14`	`CIA-11`	`-Added GUI based changing of options via /haep`
`21:53.14`	`CIA-11`	`-Added ability to reset to default weights`
`21:53.14`	`CIA-11`	`-Added ability to add weight of stamina`
`21:53.14`	`CIA-11`	`-Added ability to add weight of Resilience`
`21:53.16`	`CIA-11`	`-Fixed some typos`
`21:54.31`	`OverloadUT`	`Ahhhhh crap. Is it impossible to make a normal Blizzard event fire manually?`
`21:54.32`	`Matrix110`	`Neotron you can do that with EQDKP and some ingame Attendance Addon easily`
`21:54.44`	`Amadeo`	`it updated!`
`21:54.47`	`Amadeo`	`pastamancer wins`
`21:55.07`	`NeoTron`	`CT_RaidTracker perhaps`
`21:55.15`	`Matrix110`	`nah`
`21:55.24`	`Matrix110`	`to bloated for that`
`21:55.25`	`NeoTron`	`Matrix110: just curious if people have tried various kinds and find that some work better than others etc`
`21:58.30`	`Matrix110`	`lemme get the curse gaming link`
`21:58.30`	`Matrix110`	`it even tracks standby people`
`21:58.30`	`Matrix110`	`http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/3848/raidattendance-plus/`
`21:58.30`	`Matrix110`	`http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/3287/ekraidattendance/`
`21:58.30`	`Matrix110`	`or NRT from rabbit`
`21:58.30`	`Matrix110`	`items you need to add manually though to eqdkp`
`21:58.30`	`NeoTron`	`thanks`
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`22:00.57`	`OverloadUT`	`Does anyone know if it's possible to manually fire a Blizzard event?`
`22:01.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`like for every addon?`
`22:01.52`	`[TL]Amandria`	`well not in WoW :P there was a emulator that could load your lua files and you could fire all kinds of events`
`22:02.01`	`[TL]Amandria`	`but its not been updated for 2.0`
`22:02.44`	`OverloadUT`	`Yeah. I want, for example, the QUEST_PROGRESS event to fire`
`22:02.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`with AceEvent you can use TriggerEvent to do it but it would only be seen by addons that use AceEvent`
`22:03.10`	`OverloadUT`	`So all addons (or default bliz interface) to see it and act accordingly`
`22:03.27`	`OverloadUT`	`Sounds like it's impossible :(`
`22:04.02`	`[TL]Amandria`	`it is`
`22:04.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think it could be done but the way of doing it would probably be so overly complex it wouldnt be worth it`
`22:04.28`	`[TL]Amandria`	`what would be easier was if some people would get WoWBench to 2.0.x compatibility ;)`
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`22:05.11`	`OverloadUT`	`Arrowmaster: Any ideas? ;)`
`22:05.41`	`OverloadUT`	`Iterate through every frame, find what events are registered and call the functions manually?`
`22:05.48`	`OverloadUT`	`I have no idea if that's even possible`
`22:06.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`im thinking you could try iterating over every frame doing :GetScript("OnEvent") then calling the functions with your own arguments`
`22:06.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`but you would have to do that every time to wanted to fire the event just to make sure no new frames were created and such, def not worth it`
`22:07.07`	`OverloadUT`	`:(`
`22:07.17`	`OverloadUT`	`Well it ruins the whole idea I had... oh well`
`22:07.41`	`[TL]Amandria`	`if u are DAMN good with lua u might try fixing http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench for 2.0.x would be a great help for all developers`
`22:07.55`	`[TL]Amandria`	`if nobody gets it to 2.0.x ill try as soon as i got some free time again`
`22:08.16`	`OverloadUT`	`It looks like that wouldn't help me at all though :P`
`22:08.33`	`[TL]Amandria`	`well it could load your addons and u can fire all events`
`22:08.39`	`[TL]Amandria`	`and only the events you want/need`
`22:08.52`	`OverloadUT`	`I don't need to fire events in a make believe world :P`
`22:09.05`	`OverloadUT`	`It's not for debugging, it's for the actual functioning of the addon`
`22:09.06`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`For those interested, I added the ability to add custom avatars to the sig generator.`
`22:12.14`	`OverloadUT`	`I was working on an idea, a proof of concept really for being able to make custom fake quests. But the main thing I wanted to do was hook EVERY quest related function and fake the return values if they had to do with my custom quest. It would make it so the quests act 100% like real quests so every quest addon would work perfectly with it. I got it working: http://www.apartment167.com/otherimages/wow/FakeQuest.jpg`
`22:12.14`	`OverloadUT`	`But to complete it I would need to be able to fire events :(`
`22:12.20`	`CIA-11`	`03tornhoof * r30839 10Yata/TotemButton.lua:`
`22:12.20`	`CIA-11`	`Yata:`
`22:12.20`	`CIA-11`	`- Buttons now Toplevel(true)`
`22:13.58`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`OverloadUT: You could maybe get a list of everything that hooks the event you want to fire, and send messages manually?`
`22:14.32`	`OverloadUT`	`If anyone has an idea of a good way to do that, I'm all ears :)`
`22:14.54`	`OverloadUT`	`Arrowmaster: Is GetScript an Ace thing?`
`22:14.58`	`Dekuna`	`Okay, i have no idea what exactly caused the meltdown, but it appears that the "Changed paths" in BigWigs and Cartographer's updates today are what ate my addons. i can't provide a specific error message because whatever is happening eats fubar, so i can't look at the bugsack`
`22:14.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`no`
`22:15.25`	`CIA-11`	`03elkano * r30840 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: .SharedMedia-1.0 - process SurfaceLib textures after both, AceEvent and SurfaceLib, are locally present`
`22:15.48`	`OverloadUT`	`Oh I found it. Hmmm how would you go about iterating through every frame?`
`22:16.17`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`"for frame in _G do" might work. Not sure.`
`22:16.57`	`OverloadUT`	`Maybe UIParent:GetChildren() ?`
`22:17.04`	`OverloadUT`	`Is everything a child of UIParent?`
`22:17.42`	`pastamancer`	`OverloadUT: be careful, tainting _G.event causes strange things to happen`
`22:19.31`	`Elkano`	`gnah ^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc4oP_ITqMc`
`22:19.51`	`OverloadUT`	`I'm already deep in territoty I'm not familiar with, so I expect lots of strange things to happen ;)`
`22:20.42`	`OverloadUT`	`What is _G.event?`
`22:21.37`	`pastamancer`	`well, in a normal addon's OnEvent handler, they usually check 'event' which is a global and can be explicitly noted as _G.event`
`22:23.01`	`OverloadUT`	`Ahhh, I see what you mean`
`22:24.53`	`Amadeo`	`Elkano: I like the ones with Linux in it better :P`
`22:25.04`	`Elkano`	`^^`
`22:27.23`	`pastamancer`	`OverloadUT: you should be able to use setfenv before you call the OnEvent handlers to setup your own environment and avoid tainting _G.event`
`22:28.15`	`OverloadUT`	`Do you have an example of how I would run that? Wowwiki has no page for it :(`
`22:28.24`	`OverloadUT`	`And thanks for the help, I actually almost have it :D`
`22:29.30`	`pastamancer`	`you'd probably have to check pil or the lua-users wiki to find a good setfenv example`
`22:29.41`	`NeoTron`	`Matrix110: Think I'll start with NRT given it's ace2-status. acewoot`
`22:29.59`	`OverloadUT`	`Okay will do, thanks again`
`22:30.03`	`pastamancer`	`you'll also need a little bit of metatable funkiness`
`22:30.27`	`Matrix110`	`NeoTron but it is a quite early version so be ready to encounter bugs:P`
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`22:31.19`	`OverloadUT`	`Hmmm, how can I tell if a frame has a particular event registered?`
`22:31.22`	`NeoTron`	`I'll try it at least :)`
`22:31.28`	`NeoTron`	`but I'll try the others too`
`22:31.41`	`NeoTron`	`karazhan makes this a bit more annoying with two separate raids`
`22:32.17`	`NeoTron`	`in fact two separate raids in general ismore annoying to manage. just like it was rather rare to run 2x20 man instances even though most guilds probably had sufficient people overall`
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`22:34.33`	`kergoth`	`vhaarr: making out an energy tick heartbeat in the midst of all the other combat sounds is rather difficult, even as low frequency as it is :\|`
`22:34.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Holy crap!`
`22:34.51`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Someone working for blizzard blogged my sig generator.`
`22:34.52`	`kergoth`	`currently i'm using a real heart beat recording, but m ight need to lower the frequency further or something`
`22:34.53`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://www.gamespot.com/users/BobC/`
`22:35.07`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: should only be in effect OOC imo`
`22:35.14`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: and only when you're at full energy`
`22:35.45`	`Amadeo`	`Antiarc\|Work: Awesome :)`
`22:35.48`	`kergoth`	`hmm good point`
`22:36.40`	`NeoTron`	`i like how he's not allowed to give out his warlock information`
`22:37.18`	`pastamancer`	`OverloadUT: you'd have to hook RegisterEvent before anything else loaded`
`22:37.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Dammit, I should have been logging character/servers entered!`
`22:37.27`	`kergoth`	`eh, one of my modules OnEnable got automatically called despite the main addon having been in standby at login, is that expected? the addon's OnEnable wasnt called, but its modules were?`
`22:37.34`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Then I could go look at warlocks and do an IP trade to find Irvine!`
`22:38.02`	`NeoTron`	`lol`
`22:38.07`	`NeoTron`	`it's not too late!`
`22:38.27`	`NeoTron`	`think it'd be fun to work with webdev at blizzard`
`22:38.43`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r30841 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: She Relished the Ale`
`22:39.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I think it'd be fun, too, but the cost of living in Irvine would kill me.`
`22:39.50`	`Dekuna`	`Antiarc: how often does tachyonsix update its stats from the armory?`
`22:40.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`i know somebody that lives in Irvine and plays a warlock, his names not bob though`
`22:40.38`	`NeoTron`	`"It may continue to grow in China," Mr. Pachter added, "but not in Europe or the U.S. We don't need the imaginary outlet to feel a sense of accomplishment here. It just doesn't work in the U.S. It just doesn't make any sense.""`
`22:40.38`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Dekuna: All queries are cached for 12 hours. After they expire, new data is pulled.`
`22:41.07`	`NeoTron`	`further down on the BobC block`
`22:41.14`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yeah, I saw that.`
`22:43.46`	`kergoth`	`vhaarr: hmm, how about only when you have a hostile target as a condition too? the heartbeat gets annoying if you're just sneaking around, not intending to attack anything.`
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`22:44.42`	Funkeh`	`hi all`
`22:44.44`	`kmb2215`	`951`
`22:45.04`	`OverloadUT`	`pastamancer: Hmm, how would you hook RegisterEvent? It's a function inside each frame, so how do you hook something like that?`
`22:45.38`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: sounds reasonable`
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`22:46.29`	`kergoth`	`thatd be pretty cool. heartbeat only while approaching the mob, then a ticker bar once you're in combat with him, perhaps..`
`22:48.42`	`BankZ`	`how do I get agUF to work with MobHealth3?`
`22:48.53`	`BankZ`	`it only shows me the %`
`22:49.09`	`shieldb`	`should work automatically if they're both running correctly`
`22:49.23`	`BankZ`	`doesnt seem to`
`22:49.27`	`shieldb`	`your target has to take some damage before it converts the % to a number`
`22:49.45`	`BankZ`	`yeah, still nothing`
`22:49.56`	`BankZ`	`I am talking about bosses in instances`
`22:50.36`	`nymbia`	`BankZ: it defaults to requiring 10% damage done before showing an estimate.`
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`22:51.33`	`BankZ`	`ok, ill check it again`
`22:51.43`	`BankZ`	`but Im pretty sure it doesnt work`
`22:51.59`	`BankZ`	`also I cant get the rangecheck to work`
`22:52.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`adjust the precission down to 1`
`22:52.06`	`BankZ`	`well, the _M version works`
`22:52.41`	`BankZ`	`down to 1 in MH3?`
`22:52.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes`
`22:52.51`	`shieldb`	`yeah, meaning it should start to try to display health values after 1% damage has happened`
`22:52.54`	`BankZ`	`k, ill test that my next raid`
`22:53.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`and probably turn off steadymax`
`22:53.43`	`BankZ`	`anyone else use the range check for agUF?`
`22:53.58`	`shieldb`	`I play a rogue so I get little use out of those :)`
`22:54.42`	`nymbia`	`BankZ: you dont need a raid to test mobhealh. just go smack something..`
`22:55.17`	`BankZ`	`yeah`
`22:55.28`	`BankZ`	`but raids is when I care`
`22:55.38`	`BankZ`	`what I want it to show me is the life and the %`
`22:56.43`	`chutwig`	`mmmmmm`
`22:56.50`	`CIA-11`	`03funkydude * r30842 10Babble-2.2/ (babblelod.bat babblelod.sh):`
`22:56.50`	`CIA-11`	`Babble-2.2:`
`22:56.50`	`CIA-11`	`- add faction to bat file`
`22:56.50`	`CIA-11`	`- add sh file`
`22:56.50`	`chutwig`	`i am most pleased with my new spec`
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`22:57.00`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`22:57.06`	Funkeh`	`hi`
`22:57.13`	`shieldb`	`uh ohes`
`22:57.51`	Funkeh`	`i see CIA got a new URL`
`22:58.01`	Funkeh`	`cia.vc`
`22:58.07`	`art3mis`	`www.meatspin.com?`
`22:58.24`	Funkeh`	`http://cia.vc/stats/project/Ace new url`
`23:00.01`	`art3mis`	`nice st. vincent`
`23:00.11`	`art3mis`	`for some reason i was thinking "vatican city"`
`23:00.16`	`art3mis`	`and thought how the fuck`
`23:01.30`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://www.wowace.com/trac/log/trunk/SRA?rev=30841 rofl`
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`23:01.54`	`CIA-11`	`03nymbia * r30843 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua:`
`23:01.54`	`CIA-11`	`.SharedMedia-1.0:`
`23:01.54`	`CIA-11`	`- bugfix`
`23:02.43`	`JJSheets`	`ckknight, how ready is PitBull?`
`23:02.55`	`ckknight`	`it's slightly buggy`
`23:02.59`	`ckknight`	`I could actually work on it now...`
`23:03.03`	`ckknight`	`I'm in class`
`23:03.05`	`art3mis`	`OR`
`23:03.07`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`23:03.12`	`art3mis`	`you could browse porn sites`
`23:03.17`	`ckknight`	`JJSheets: I wouldn't recommend taking it into anything mission-critical yet`
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`23:03.41`	`ckknight`	`especially until the Aura stuff is settled`
`23:03.52`	`ckknight`	`and I want to firm up the layout system`
`23:04.06`	`ckknight`	`and give people actual configuration`
`23:04.10`	`ckknight`	`and grouping`
`23:04.14`	`ckknight`	`there's still a lot to do`
`23:04.18`	`art3mis`	`you named it pitbull?`
`23:04.20`	`JJSheets`	`k, just checking in... :) no need to work on it if you like art3mis's idea better. :)`
`23:06.35`	`art3mis`	`but what about Steve?`
`23:06.35`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`23:06.55`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`23:06.55`	`ckknight`	`I went with PitBull`
`23:07.04`	`CIA-11`	`03jerry * r30844 10Talented/ (core.lua ui/base.lua): Talented: change event registration`
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`23:13.36`	`*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com \| http://www.wowace.com/files \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org \| WAU 1.7-final http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. \| You gotta break some lions to make an omlet`
`23:14.10`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`23:14.33`	`ckknight`	`haven't done much testing in groups`
`23:14.54`	`ckknight`	`but actually, yea, I see why`
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`23:23.00`	`azide`	`bleh, nyud.net seems to have caught on to the whole sig thing`
`23:23.40`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r30845 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - Update frame on repopulation if the frame already exists`
`23:24.47`	`BankZ`	`Is there an addon that will auto turn on my "find herbs"?`
`23:25.11`	`Industrial`	`cant, theres notifiers`
`23:26.08`	`Daagar`	`The sigs are excellent. His whole suite of armory tools is excellent. Was just a matter of time`
`23:26.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`What's to catch on to? The Corel Cache is there for just that reason, isnt it?`
`23:27.01`	`Industrial`	`whats nyud.net? (its not loading for me)`
`23:27.36`	`Daagar`	`It is a cache of some sort`
`23:28.19`	`Daagar`	`useful for when sites get slashdotted, for example`
`23:28.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`http://www.coralcdn.org/`
`23:28.45`	`Industrial`	`hm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyud.net`
`23:28.48`	`Industrial`	`oh heh`
`23:29.06`	`Daagar`	`wikipedia knows all. and sometimes is even right`
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`23:30.01`	`Ominous`	`ckknight: how are the auras in pitbull atm?`
`23:30.11`	`Industrial`	`but why would you want generated images (the sigs thing) to be distributed... the image updates every 12 hours how are you going to get the right one every 12 hours?`
`23:30.14`	`ckknight`	`trying to tackle a bug`
`23:30.46`	`Daagar`	`So his server doesn't melt under the load`
`23:30.49`	`Industrial`	`thats like getting an rss feed from bob instead of slashdot`
`23:30.50`	`rubik`	`eazy.. the sig is refreshed every time the .php script is called`
`23:31.07`	`rubik`	`and since coral only calls the actual php script every 12 hrs, hence refresh every 12 hrs`
`23:32.06`	`Industrial`	`kinda reminds me of freenet`
`23:32.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`rubik has the right idea`
`23:32.42`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Coral expires content after 12 hours by default`
`23:32.51`	`Stephmw`	`coral does the correct cashing also with different url params?`
`23:32.59`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yes`
`23:33.25`	`Industrial`	`da's 'lotta cah'n den`
`23:33.37`	`Daagar`	`Very nice tools Antiarc`
`23:33.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Thanks :)`
`23:33.46`	`Daagar`	`the presentation is a big win`
`23:33.56`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Heh, how so? It's rather plain.`
`23:34.00`	`Daagar`	`exactly`
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`23:34.12`	`Daagar`	`very clean, without looking ugly`
`23:34.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`And yeah, the cache is basically mandatory at this point. I've served over 26,000 sigs. Take that and multiply by however many pageviews and I'd be looking at an instant disconnect by my ISP if I wasn't distributing it. :)`
`23:34.23`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Heh, thanks.`
`23:34.28`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I tend to appreciate minimalism.`
`23:34.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Plus I'm too lazy to go do some crazy layout.`
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`23:35.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`crazy layouts are stupid. simple is good.`
`23:36.11`	`rubik`	`this itemrack beta is screwy.. doesn't show half my gear on mouse-over on char frame`
`23:36.20`	`rubik`	`gotta switch to outfitter or something`
`23:36.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, its got some issues`
`23:36.30`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I use ClosetGnome + SwapMagic and love it.`
`23:36.45`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I might try closetgnome`
`23:36.48`	`rubik`	`does outfitter show gear options for a specifc slot on mouseover?`
`23:36.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`SwapMagic does`
`23:37.30`	`Industrial`	`Antiarc\|Work: cept that this nyud.net isnt working for me :P`
`23:37.46`	`rubik`	`whoa.. swapmagic sounds like it rules.. i'll try it out, thx`
`23:37.56`	`rubik`	`and closetgnome over outfitter, eh?`
`23:38.22`	`vhaarr`	`Try it :)`
`23:38.36`	`BankZ`	`outfitter has a better ui but its a pig`
`23:38.43`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Industrial: Corporate firewall blocking port 8080?`
`23:38.50`	`rubik`	`i'm a little partial to the name since i'm horde.. :P`
`23:38.56`	`Daagar`	`hmm... time to try the gnome and swapmagic then`
`23:39.13`	`rubik`	`that's what i'm doing.. bye-bye itemrack`
`23:39.49`	`BankZ`	`what does swapmagic do?`
`23:39.52`	`Industrial`	`Antiarc\|Work: no im at home`
`23:40.04`	`rubik`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SwapMagic/readme.txt`
`23:40.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Huh. Not sure what the problem would be then.`
`23:40.24`	`Industrial`	`nyud.net http request, port 80, nada :P`
`23:40.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`8080?`
`23:40.44`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Port 80 doesn't work, IIRC.`
`23:40.44`	`rubik`	`vhaarr: so i can use that closetgnome_itemrack module to import my itemrack layouts?`
`23:40.47`	`_icetrai1`	`same for me, nyud.net doesnt resolve`
`23:41.01`	`Daagar`	`it has been on and off today`
`23:41.05`	`Daagar`	`it'll resolve in a while`
`23:41.09`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Resolved and connected here.`
`23:41.18`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It tends to be slow and flakes out sometimes`
`23:41.32`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`But it's better than my server melting a hole through the floor and NOBODY having access to it.`
`23:41.48`	`Daagar`	`agreed`
`23:42.03`	`Daagar`	`In time, people will run their own copy to change the artwork`
`23:42.05`	`vhaarr`	`rubik: I don't know, I didn't make it.`
`23:42.07`	`Daagar`	`that'll reduce the load`
`23:42.18`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I added custom avatar capabilities earlier today :)`
`23:42.26`	`Daagar`	`oh hot dang`
`23:42.32`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'll probably eventually do custom backgrounds, but most people have really bad design taste -_-`
`23:42.46`	`vhaarr`	`rubik: (CG_ItemRack, I mean)`
`23:42.50`	`Daagar`	`are you going to make a small 'avatar' version?`
`23:42.54`	`rubik`	`vhaarr: gotcha`
`23:43.31`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Daagar: Elaborate?`
`23:44.13`	`Daagar`	`Umm... something with much less width. People like to have one 'big' sig for their main, then smaller sigs for their alts`
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`23:44.50`	`Daagar`	`like the wowroster siggen addon`
`23:45.08`	`knarf-`	`http://www.nyud.net/ : Pinging http.l2.l1.l0.nyucd.net [129.186.205.76] with 32 bytes of data:`
`23:46.35`	`art3mis`	`ive decided that there is something wrong with ammo`
`23:46.41`	`art3mis`	`after reviewing his comit messages`
`23:46.42`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`23:47.59`	`vhaarr`	`yes, I trained him well`
`23:48.06`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`23:48.08`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Daagar: Aha, got you. That's a good idea.`
`23:48.17`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'll probably do something like that at some point.`
`23:48.37`	`art3mis`	`vhaarr still has the best comment lines`
`23:48.47`	`art3mis`	`but ammo is REALLY milking the sra thing`
`23:49.00`	`Daagar`	`Not mandatory, was just the first thing my guild asked about after I pointed them to your sig page ;)`
`23:49.04`	`art3mis`	`he needs to work on a longer named addon to show his REALY skill ;P`
`23:49.11`	`JJSheets`	`okay, so, since it's not obvious from the commit messages, what exactly is SRA?`
`23:49.18`	`vhaarr`	`art3mis: he's doing alright, but it was my idea`
`23:49.22`	`vhaarr`	`give me credit please`
`23:49.23`	`art3mis`	`stupid retarded ammo ;P`
`23:49.24`	`vhaarr`	`:(`
`23:49.49`	`art3mis`	`-- fuck you blizzard! -vhaarr`
`23:50.06`	`art3mis`	`i think i need to make that my forum sig`
`23:50.33`	`art3mis`	`anti gibbor me linky`
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`23:52.51`	`vhaarr`	`~antiarc`
`23:53.10`	`purl`	`antiarc is, like, the author of Sanity and Hemlock, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ - I guess he's the destroyer of worlds, too, or somethin'`
`23:53.10`	`vhaarr`	`purl, you suck`
`23:53.26`	`purl`	`no, you suck!`
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