| 00:00.31 | Kemayo | I'm jealous. |
| 00:00.32 | OverloadUT | They consider all the work I do to be worth more than they have given me in vet service, and I feel just the opposite. I guess we both feel our jobs are not really a big deal :P |
| 00:00.52 | cheers | nice :) |
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| 00:08.06 | OverloadUT | ~ace |
| 00:08.07 | purl | somebody said ace was a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind. See http://www.wowace.com/ |
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| 00:12.31 | Daemona | hmmm anyone can recommend a simple timer mod where i can add trigger to start timers? |
| 00:12.43 | Daemona | preferably with a "ding" when cooldown is over |
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| 00:39.09 | Industrial | kergoth: ping |
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| 00:48.12 | Phatrik | uhm err... anyone else that got a message on the forums, from some dude named "EdwardN", containing a very... juicy picture |
| 00:48.27 | ckknight | again? |
| 00:48.34 | ckknight | we banned him like a few months ago |
| 00:48.45 | ckknight | btw: I know you like it |
| 00:49.10 | Phatrik | reaction: "meh" |
| 00:57.30 | ckknight | well, my pally's up to lvl 34 now |
| 00:58.09 | ckknight | and although I should probably do more than run SM over and over, ah, it's fun |
| 00:58.15 | ckknight | alright, looks like it's classtime |
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| 01:16.30 | Kaelten | http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ |
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| 02:12.53 | Austerity | anyone have any link that can give me a good grasp on screen positioning useing t5he X: Y: cordinats ie: move object to set position |
| 02:13.09 | Austerity | or i s it like html |
| 02:17.18 | Industrial | Austerity: any existing project |
| 02:17.31 | Industrial | and wowwiki.com |
| 02:18.59 | wobin | Just remember bottom left is 0,0 |
| 02:19.13 | wobin | and the effectivescale of the parent has to be taken into account |
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| 02:23.44 | Industrial | 0,0 is center :P |
| 02:24.32 | nymbia | bottom left ^^ |
| 02:24.42 | nymbia | at least for stuff where there's no option |
| 02:24.51 | nymbia | like getting cursor coords |
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| 02:30.45 | austerity | thanks for the responses a min ago |
| 02:30.52 | Industrial | :s |
| 02:31.23 | wobin | ^^ |
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| 02:50.36 | JoshBorke | Cryect: how'd the profiling go? |
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| 02:52.11 | JoshBorke | tip hooker lib? is that suposed to calculate how much to pay for rendered services? |
| 02:56.51 | xyu | does carto_noteshare work currently? i've never been able to get it to work before. anyone else have it working no probs? |
| 03:02.47 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: yeah, i mean, do you really want to figure that out yourself? :P |
| 03:06.11 | NightHawkTheSane | huh. the doctor in this episode of sg:a is cameron from ferris bueller's day off. |
| 03:06.26 | todd | are there any mods that can give me timers for my weapon swings |
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| 03:10.44 | chuckg | Is there any performance difference storing, accessing, memory allocation, etc between these two? Or I guess I should ask, noticeable? http://ace.pastey.net/8476 |
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| 03:32.43 | vhaarr | chuckg: Go with the first one. |
| 03:33.19 | vhaarr | I presume you'll have to do string concatenation with the second one, which is insanely expensive. |
| 03:33.28 | vhaarr | to access the keys. |
| 03:35.12 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:35.16 | vhaarr | hey ckk |
| 03:35.42 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5253 - I requested the same things some time ago. |
| 03:36.03 | vhaarr | I have a few other AceConsole wishes in addition to the ones listed there. |
| 03:36.24 | ckknight | and I responded to it, which I don't remember people answering to |
| 03:36.41 | ckknight | how do you get the get/set functions to work? |
| 03:36.56 | ckknight | do they return multiple values, take multiple values, return a table, whatnot? |
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| 03:39.30 | vhaarr | doesn't matter to me, really |
| 03:40.29 | nymbia | well only one would get toggled at once |
| 03:41.15 | vhaarr | in UIs, yes, but in the console it would theoretically be possible to toggle more than one at a time |
| 03:41.25 | nymbia | one value, multiple returns would be a little more natural relative to the current behaviour |
| 03:42.04 | nymbia | vhaarr: maybe just call the set func once for each change? set funcs would get a little big with all those args |
| 03:42.14 | cladhaire | [gfive me a moment |
| 03:42.15 | cladhaire | boss |
| 03:42.16 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:42.41 | chuckg | Yea I would vharr. |
| 03:42.58 | chuckg | So in the long run, doing the string concats would be more pricey than accessing the tables? |
| 03:43.22 | vhaarr | I would imagine, yes. |
| 03:43.27 | chuckg | Thanks for the info. |
| 03:43.58 | cladhaire | you can't multi set, since you can't assume there are no spaces in the input |
| 03:44.03 | Cryect | heh damn JoshBorke is gone figure I would tell him the performance improvement from going with StatusBars instead of textures |
| 03:44.14 | ckknight | the set could be a toggle for one value |
| 03:44.25 | ckknight | the get would have to _somehow_ return all the values |
| 03:44.43 | cladhaire | thats for us to worry abotu toho =) |
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| 03:45.03 | cladhaire | we discussed this earlier today and came to the same conslusions |
| 03:45.51 | cladhaire | its still not 100% useful to me without the others, but its a start |
| 03:46.59 | cladhaire | Sets should take a single argument, as a toggle and Get should return all values currently set, as multiple arguments. |
| 03:47.14 | ckknight | well, set's would be two arguments ("key", newValue) |
| 03:47.28 | cladhaire | even if its not in a passing group? |
| 03:47.36 | cladhaire | cause i can't use them |
| 03:47.46 | ckknight | we're talking about the multi-toggle aren't we? |
| 03:47.56 | cladhaire | the multi box i just asked for, yes. |
| 03:48.05 | ckknight | if we're talking about the multi-toggle, you need a key in which to change the individual setting |
| 03:48.15 | cladhaire | its a validate table, that's all you pass |
| 03:48.16 | cladhaire | and its a toggle. |
| 03:48.22 | cladhaire | you pass the value they clicked on |
| 03:48.24 | cladhaire | there's no "new" value |
| 03:48.31 | ckknight | yea there is |
| 03:48.37 | cladhaire | unless you already pass that in the toggle handler code |
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| 03:48.43 | cladhaire | well thats fine |
| 03:48.44 | ckknight | I do |
| 03:48.52 | ckknight | alright |
| 03:49.29 | ckknight | what I'm thinking is that most people are going to store it in a table like { alpha = true, bravo = true } |
| 03:49.34 | cladhaire | tem and i are working on an overall proposal |
| 03:49.41 | cladhaire | since i'm finding AO rather limiting for a few things |
| 03:49.52 | cladhaire | would you consider making a gui specific options table, and a slash command specific options table |
| 03:50.08 | ckknight | I'd prefer not to... |
| 03:50.14 | ckknight | it's nice how it all works together |
| 03:50.24 | ckknight | that was one point I've kept in mind since the beginning |
| 03:50.33 | cladhaire | well i actually think its a bad thing |
| 03:50.35 | cladhaire | i get what you mean |
| 03:50.49 | ckknight | how's it bad? |
| 03:50.59 | Nargiddley | hey |
| 03:51.10 | cladhaire | it can be extremely cumbersome to find the right slash command |
| 03:51.16 | cladhaire | because EVERYTHIGN is a slash command |
| 03:51.54 | cladhaire | if you have a gui library (which you do) |
| 03:52.04 | cladhaire | then configuration can happen there, and you can have slash commands for the frequent things if necessary |
| 03:52.05 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 03:52.08 | cladhaire | matter of opinion of course. |
| 03:52.59 | cladhaire | also, i think the way AceOptions is done up, is clearly just an extensino of an original idea, and it would be nice to have a good global standard, and a way to convert between the two |
| 03:53.35 | ckknight | if there's a way to convert between two, why does there need to be two? |
| 03:53.42 | ckknight | can't the conversion take place in the implementation? |
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| 03:53.59 | cladhaire | why not a "radio" type, instead of text with validate? |
| 03:54.31 | cladhaire | you can get specific and detailed with one, when you have a one-size fits all solution, there tends to be limitation. |
| 03:55.06 | cladhaire | tem had a good argument for it, but i can't find him |
| 03:55.29 | Kaelten | Cairenn: whats the name of the horde guild on darka? |
| 03:56.03 | Cryect | I'm going to say I tend to agree with cladhaire |
| 03:56.23 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2651 |
| 03:56.39 | Cryect | I can make a much nicer looking options menu if I don't restrict myself to an easy way to convert between console configuration and menu configuration |
| 03:57.09 | cladhaire | and having a slash command option for everything can be a problem, and more ocnfusing for those who want to use the slash commands for some things |
| 03:57.11 | Cryect | I mean its nice in that you do it once you get both but it doesn't always lend to the best way of configuring addons |
| 03:57.14 | cladhaire | so they download a GUI to navigate them =) |
| 03:57.16 | hyperChipmunk | oh, man; did i miss the lastest episode of cladhaire v. ckknight? |
| 03:57.22 | Cryect | I hate that about a lot of ace addons is they are a pain to conifugre |
| 03:57.28 | nymbia | you dont need to necessarily use the same table in the gui and console |
| 03:57.57 | cladhaire | yes, but you're still limited by the fact that it was originally a console table,m niot a gui |
| 03:58.01 | Cryect | Yep |
| 03:58.12 | cladhaire | i shoudln't need to design around that |
| 03:58.19 | cladhaire | to make my slash command handler table look like the gui i newed =) |
| 03:58.27 | cladhaire | sorry for the typing, i'm tanking =) |
| 03:58.40 | Cryect | I mean you can't create an easy nice config window like in my old addon CombatGraph with AO |
| 03:58.50 | Cryect | image for example http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/CombatGraph/ |
| 03:59.17 | Cryect | You can get th einformation all in buts it not really quite the same |
| 03:59.28 | Cryect | Whoops wrong link http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/CombatGraph/combatgraph6.jpg |
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| 03:59.35 | cladhaire | you woudln't be able to in mind either |
| 04:00.09 | cladhaire | i can make it work if they're still toegther |
| 04:00.17 | cladhaire | but i really think they should be seperate, it would give us a nice solid format for each |
| 04:00.24 | hyperChipmunk | hm, someone let me know when they start pulling out weapons |
| 04:00.27 | cladhaire | cause, like i said, "text" with a validate table isn't exactly, flexible or intuitive. |
| 04:01.07 | Cryect | Heh be nice to see a nice way to quickly create a GUI config window with tabs etc |
| 04:01.18 | cladhaire | what i propse, you could |
| 04:01.42 | Tem|AFK | that's up to the library |
| 04:01.45 | vhaarr | Text with a validate table is just as flexible as anything else. |
| 04:01.54 | cladhaire | not as it stands, its not. |
| 04:02.43 | cladhaire | i'd also like to cut down on the need for closures on every handler =) |
| 04:02.55 | Tem|AFK | seems like a simple "pass this" would fix that |
| 04:03.07 | cladhaire | it would |
| 04:03.12 | cladhaire | but i've asked before, and it was shot down =) |
| 04:03.14 | cladhaire | maybe we can get it now |
| 04:03.57 | ckknight | what's wrong with text w/ validate? that functions as a radio |
| 04:04.01 | ckknight | (sorry, had dinner) |
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| 04:04.46 | cladhaire | i just think the options would be better suited, and the formats would prosper if they were seperate. |
| 04:05.13 | ckknight | I don't see why... they are the same thing |
| 04:05.19 | Tem|AFK | not at all |
| 04:05.21 | cladhaire | they shouldn't be |
| 04:05.34 | Tem|AFK | some things are very suited to command line |
| 04:05.40 | ckknight | I'll take your comments into consideration |
| 04:05.48 | Tem|AFK | okay, yeah |
| 04:05.48 | cladhaire | thanks, just let me know |
| 04:05.52 | Tem|AFK | I'm done with this conversation |
| 04:05.57 | Tem|AFK | Fuck you, Ckk |
| 04:06.00 | Cryect | heh |
| 04:06.11 | hyperChipmunk | aw, dude |
| 04:06.22 | Tem|AFK | That kind of overbearing conceited crap is redicuous |
| 04:06.22 | hyperChipmunk | you guys were supposed to call me back before this part |
| 04:06.24 | cladhaire | at least have the courtesy to let me know if you aren't going to change anythign, so I can get to work on something else rather than actually attempting to cooperate with your standards. |
| 04:06.36 | Tem|AFK | I've had it with your crap |
| 04:06.43 | ckknight | no, I'll end up tinkering, cladhaire |
| 04:06.48 | Tem|AFK | call me when you get the hell out of the community I used to love |
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| 04:06.56 | ckknight | e.g. I'll likely add the multitoggle thing |
| 04:07.01 | ckknight | and the passValue thingy |
| 04:07.07 | cladhaire | okay, but no desire to have multiple formats |
| 04:07.19 | ckknight | no, I can't say that I do |
| 04:07.28 | ckknight | sorry, it just seems unnecessary to me |
| 04:07.36 | cladhaire | thats unfortunatle, and i'll take it into consideration. |
| 04:07.37 | cladhaire | thanks. |
| 04:07.51 | ckknight | I mean, I will think about it |
| 04:08.08 | ckknight | but for right now, I consider having multiple formats unnecessary |
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| 04:08.45 | cladhaire | you said you wanted a standard, i'm just expressing what i feel is important. |
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| 04:08.54 | cladhaire | rather than forking unnecessarily |
| 04:09.09 | ckknight | right |
| 04:10.07 | ckknight | honestly, I just cannot see why having a separate radio type would add to the system compared to using text w/validate. It'd just be radio w/validate, it seems to me |
| 04:10.17 | ckknight | just with a different name |
| 04:10.17 | cladhaire | its an example. |
| 04:10.24 | cladhaire | i'm talking the overall strategy towards the format |
| 04:11.04 | cladhaire | the format as it is, is a slash command format, with gui as an afterthought |
| 04:11.16 | ckknight | that's not how I designed it originally |
| 04:12.02 | ckknight | I kept gui (well, specifically Dewdrop) in mind |
| 04:12.41 | ckknight | but every possible feature was questioned by "how would this be represented in gui form and in console form?" |
| 04:12.55 | cladhaire | and you're limited by trying to do both, is my point |
| 04:13.04 | Cryect | it works well for a unified approach |
| 04:13.15 | ckknight | frankly, I don't see the limitation as really taking away too much. |
| 04:13.33 | ckknight | for things that only show on one and don't on another, they're typically unneeded, in my opinion |
| 04:13.39 | ckknight | I'm willing to be proved wrong on that, though |
| 04:13.55 | cladhaire | well i dont have the time nor the desire to prove you wrong |
| 04:13.57 | cladhaire | i've presented my case, and now i'll see what happens |
| 04:14.07 | ckknight | no, you can't say that. |
| 04:14.14 | cladhaire | i just did |
| 04:14.17 | ckknight | I need an example of where it _actually_ is causing problems |
| 04:14.26 | ckknight | otherwise the whole argument seems pointless |
| 04:14.31 | cladhaire | i'm not arguing |
| 04:14.32 | cladhaire | i'm asking |
| 04:14.39 | cladhaire | i'm not going to argue with you, or fight with you to prove a point |
| 04:14.40 | ckknight | I'm _willing_ to be proved wrong, here |
| 04:14.54 | cladhaire | and i have no desire to interact with you in that manner |
| 04:14.59 | ckknight | I want you to show me a place where something represented in gui form cannot be equivalently represented in console form |
| 04:15.04 | cladhaire | there's plenty of smart minds here. |
| 04:15.06 | ckknight | which is what I believe this is about |
| 04:15.14 | hyperChipmunk | I think clad's proven that he has pretty good judgement about what he needs in the past; he isn't some child that needs handholding |
| 04:15.33 | ckknight | not just clad, then |
| 04:15.34 | ckknight | anyone |
| 04:15.36 | cladhaire | its not, its something thats easy in console, and tough for us to make work in gui |
| 04:15.37 | cladhaire | tabs |
| 04:15.37 | hyperChipmunk | and you're treating him like he wants a cookie but isn't saying 'please' in the way you like |
| 04:15.37 | ckknight | please enlighten me |
| 04:15.44 | cladhaire | if you have a lot of options, but they're grouped by tabs. |
| 04:15.47 | ckknight | tabs? hrm |
| 04:15.49 | ckknight | good point. |
| 04:15.57 | cladhaire | you shouldn't have to view the entire set of top lefvel command |
| 04:16.00 | cladhaire | you shoudl be able to change pages. |
| 04:16.30 | cladhaire | aguf is a good example |
| 04:16.33 | ckknight | seems like that can be figured out by deducing blank headers between sections |
| 04:16.34 | cladhaire | like 80,000 slash commands =) |
| 04:16.48 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 04:16.55 | hyperChipmunk | prat just got a waterfall implementation |
| 04:17.11 | hyperChipmunk | it takes 2 mins every time you click to scroll down |
| 04:17.30 | hyperChipmunk | that's beyond useless =P |
| 04:17.40 | Nargiddley | yeah, scrollframes dont seem to like to have alot of stuff in them |
| 04:18.35 | cladhaire | and better grouping handles that |
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| 04:20.22 | ckknight | see, if I were to handle that in Waterfall, in the initial process, I would've gone with a drilldown accordion approach |
| 04:20.26 | ckknight | or something like that |
| 04:20.45 | ckknight | doesn't seem like everything needs to be expanded at once, that'd confuse the user more than anything |
| 04:21.46 | cladhaire | Vorpil was at 13% at first teleport |
| 04:21.47 | cladhaire | pwned |
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| 04:23.31 | ckknight | Nargiddley: why didn't you go with an accordion approach, btw? |
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| 04:24.13 | Nargiddley | is that similar to the sections i put in for bigwigs ? |
| 04:24.27 | Nargiddley | or do you mean for the right side as well ? |
| 04:24.30 | ckknight | don't know, I don't use bigwigs |
| 04:24.39 | ckknight | you know how an accordion compresses and expands? |
| 04:24.50 | ckknight | basically, as the user wants more information, he clicks and "zooms in" to a certain point |
| 04:24.57 | ckknight | and gets more specific options |
| 04:25.04 | ckknight | and zooms out when he wants a broader view |
| 04:25.18 | Nargiddley | haddnt thought about doing it that way |
| 04:25.25 | ckknight | it's a pretty common UI design mechanism, which users tend to comprehend quite well |
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| 04:26.01 | ckknight | prevents you from having so many commands it becomes unwieldy |
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| 04:26.08 | Nargiddley | http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6302/waterfallsectionsnz2.jpg is what the section layout looks like |
| 04:26.25 | Nargiddley | its just the tree its replacing |
| 04:26.45 | cladhaire | oh ckknight |
| 04:26.51 | cladhaire | the groupings in waterfall are perfect for most of my stuff. |
| 04:27.22 | ckknight | somewhat, slightly different idea, it's more relevant to dealing with one frame |
| 04:27.23 | cladhaire | the issue is, i need the mult select boxes |
| 04:27.23 | cladhaire | but if we get those, with passarg thats solved. |
| 04:27.23 | ckknight | yea, btw, I figured out how to do the get |
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| 04:27.35 | ckknight | get is a table or a function, if it is a table, then it should be a function with arguments |
| 04:27.43 | Nargiddley | the model I had aimed at was the sections on the left side which open up pages of options on the right |
| 04:27.43 | ckknight | said function is an iterator |
| 04:28.00 | ckknight | that returns k, v where k is the key and v is the true/false |
| 04:28.02 | ckknight | I'm thinking |
| 04:28.07 | ckknight | how does that sound? |
| 04:28.18 | Nargiddley | ckknight, sounds similar to something I did for the waterfall api |
| 04:28.22 | ckknight | that way you can do get = { pairs(mytable) } |
| 04:28.30 | Pyrrhus | Sup all |
| 04:28.32 | ckknight | though there could be localization issues with that... |
| 04:28.33 | cladhaire | right now, can validate have different labels and values? |
| 04:28.34 | ckknight | hey Pyrrhus |
| 04:28.43 | Pyrrhus | anyone live in the northeast? |
| 04:28.45 | Nargiddley | for a dropdown, i have the option of providing an iterator to give the contents of it |
| 04:28.47 | ckknight | cladhaire: yes, it's like { ["Monkey"] = "Affe" } |
| 04:28.52 | cladhaire | Pyrrhus: upstate new york |
| 04:28.53 | cladhaire | ckknight: k |
| 04:29.05 | ckknight | so "Monkey" is the value, "Affe" is what is shown the user |
| 04:29.16 | Pyrrhus | cladhaire: like the weather we got? |
| 04:29.17 | cladhaire | yep |
| 04:29.22 | cladhaire | Pyrrhus: it sucks =) |
| 04:29.28 | ckknight | perhaps having a validate of all functions, and a get that returns all true values or something... |
| 04:29.34 | Pyrrhus | cladhaire: 40 min drive to work took me 1hr10mins |
| 04:29.49 | Cryect | snow in mid march is oh so fun |
| 04:29.52 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 04:30.02 | Pyrrhus | 35 on the highway that I usually do 80-90 on :) |
| 04:30.18 | cladhaire | whereabouts are you? |
| 04:30.23 | Pyrrhus | mass |
| 04:30.25 | Pyrrhus | SE mass |
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| 04:30.31 | ckknight | perhaps... |
| 04:30.31 | cladhaire | you guys got hit worse than we did |
| 04:30.33 | Pyrrhus | its still bad out there |
| 04:30.35 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:30.46 | Eyes-t | I have a question if someone would like to help with |
| 04:30.49 | Pyrrhus | specially with an manual eclipse lol |
| 04:30.54 | Pyrrhus | Eyes-t: shoot |
| 04:31.03 | Eyes-t | I want to edit the width of my chat box in wow |
| 04:31.14 | Eyes-t | I cant seem to get prat to do i |
| 04:31.15 | Pyrrhus | right clock the general tab.. unlock.. |
| 04:31.16 | Eyes-t | it* |
| 04:31.17 | ckknight | cladhaire: so for the passArg, that'd work anywhere and function as the first value for the get/set functions, yes? |
| 04:31.24 | cladhaire | correct |
| 04:31.26 | cladhaire | if it exists |
| 04:31.27 | Eyes-t | not move it but change the size of the whole window |
| 04:31.30 | Pyrrhus | than right click the right side of the box and drag |
| 04:31.32 | cladhaire | its the closure killer =) |
| 04:31.35 | Cryect | what he just said changes the size |
| 04:31.39 | ckknight | yea, I'll stick it in |
| 04:31.44 | Eyes-t | ohh ok |
| 04:31.45 | Pyrrhus | yea right click on the RIGHT side on the box |
| 04:31.48 | Eyes-t | thnx! |
| 04:31.48 | Pyrrhus | :) |
| 04:31.51 | Pyrrhus | Anytime1 |
| 04:31.52 | Pyrrhus | ! |
| 04:31.55 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
| 04:32.00 | Pyrrhus | god work SUCKS! |
| 04:32.14 | Pyrrhus | so... anyone on gorgannash? |
| 04:32.15 | ckknight | and vhaarr wanted groups inside passing groups, which doesn't seem like a big deal |
| 04:32.26 | Pyrrhus | Oh question for you all :) |
| 04:32.32 | Pyrrhus | I grabbed a compileation.. |
| 04:32.35 | ckknight | answer for just you |
| 04:32.40 | Pyrrhus | MazzleUI |
| 04:32.44 | Pyrrhus | it has a bar.... |
| 04:32.51 | Pyrrhus | that does consumables.. |
| 04:32.52 | ckknight | and a Mazzlegasm! |
| 04:33.00 | Pyrrhus | and lets say I have super mana pot and.. |
| 04:33.04 | Pyrrhus | major mana pot... |
| 04:33.10 | todd | are there any mods that can give me timers for my weapon swings |
| 04:33.13 | Pyrrhus | only the super shows.. however it I hover over it |
| 04:33.17 | Pyrrhus | they both show.. |
| 04:33.20 | Pyrrhus | what mod is that? |
| 04:33.27 | Nargiddley | Autobar ? |
| 04:33.35 | Pyrrhus | hm |
| 04:33.37 | Pyrrhus | could b :) |
| 04:33.53 | Pyrrhus | not sure ill check when I get home.. like I like alot of the addons he uses.. but theres just to many |
| 04:34.13 | Pyrrhus | like the addon folder is like 30 megs.. |
| 04:34.19 | Bruners | its autobar |
| 04:34.32 | Bruners | mine is 91,6 mb |
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| 04:35.01 | Pyrrhus | actually its over 40 to start lol |
| 04:35.06 | Pyrrhus | jeze bru |
| 04:35.10 | Pyrrhus | got addons? |
| 04:35.11 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 04:35.34 | todd | 16.6 MB |
| 04:35.45 | Pyrrhus | so.. my guild hald another unsuccessfull night on gruul last night |
| 04:35.54 | Pyrrhus | im so sadened by that boss |
| 04:36.04 | chutwig | i'm not looking forward to gruul |
| 04:36.14 | Pyrrhus | He is definitally not on par with the first 25 man you encounter post BC |
| 04:36.22 | chutwig | i already respecced destro for it and i am already pissed off that devastation is bugged and doesn't add onto my crit rate |
| 04:36.26 | chutwig | thankth blizzard |
| 04:36.32 | Pyrrhus | hear ya |
| 04:36.35 | Pyrrhus | btw.. |
| 04:36.39 | Pyrrhus | any herbalist out there |
| 04:36.44 | Pyrrhus | save you damn fel blossems |
| 04:36.46 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
| 04:36.49 | Pyrrhus | work great on gruul |
| 04:36.51 | chutwig | i sure am enjoying my whopping 14% crit rate as full destruction |
| 04:36.55 | Pyrrhus | for casters and such with low hp |
| 04:37.07 | Bruners | i guess i could remove some of them to free up space |
| 04:37.12 | Pyrrhus | chutwig: my mage has 30.05 unbuffed ;) |
| 04:37.27 | Bruners | but wth i got 1tb disk space |
| 04:37.28 | chutwig | but by jove when the 4k shadow bolt chains finally get going i feel slightly redeemed |
| 04:37.45 | Pyrrhus | true |
| 04:37.57 | Pyrrhus | I WANT ROLLING IGNITES lol |
| 04:37.57 | chutwig | just want them to fix devastation |
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| 04:38.01 | chutwig | because it's definitely broken right now |
| 04:38.02 | Pyrrhus | I would be so op |
| 04:38.09 | Pyrrhus | want my rolls back |
| 04:38.53 | Pyrrhus | Has anyone else tried Gruul and have any tips? |
| 04:39.20 | Pyrrhus | :( |
| 04:39.50 | snurre | what kind of tips? |
| 04:40.24 | Pyrrhus | well someone said few days ago.. shift+v for the friendly healthbars.. tried it and they are almost perfect for range :) |
| 04:40.27 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30366 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Hopefully fixed onlyInGroup. |
| 04:40.47 | Pyrrhus | but still... when 4 and 5 people land in the same area.. its tough to spread out as much as its needed |
| 04:41.08 | Pyrrhus | And Gruul's ground stomp is un timeable.. |
| 04:41.21 | snurre | pop limited invul pots while in the air if you see youre gonna end in a bad spot |
| 04:41.30 | Pyrrhus | they dont work anymore |
| 04:41.35 | snurre | they do while popping in the air |
| 04:41.37 | Pyrrhus | we tried last night |
| 04:41.38 | snurre | prevents the slowing effect |
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| 04:41.44 | Pyrrhus | ohh the slowing.. |
| 04:41.48 | Pyrrhus | hmmmm |
| 04:42.00 | Pyrrhus | thats a good idea ;) |
| 04:42.13 | Pyrrhus | how many would you bring? |
| 04:42.15 | Pyrrhus | per person |
| 04:42.20 | Pyrrhus | for a full night of attempts? |
| 04:42.24 | Pyrrhus | 10? |
| 04:42.42 | snurre | you can also set predefined running directions.. like healers run clockwise, melee dps towards middle, hunters/mages counterclockwise, warlocks/spriests towards wall |
| 04:42.43 | snurre | etc |
| 04:43.12 | snurre | i always carry 20 lim invuls |
| 04:43.14 | snurre | theyre AWESOME |
| 04:43.21 | Pyrrhus | well heres what we tried.. |
| 04:43.28 | Pyrrhus | pinned gruul against NW wall |
| 04:43.39 | Pyrrhus | grps 1 and 2 lines up North and west wall |
| 04:43.44 | Pyrrhus | other 3 spread out.. |
| 04:43.58 | Pyrrhus | Melee was running out before the toss to the east wall to find a rock.. |
| 04:44.07 | Pyrrhus | mages/warlocks south |
| 04:44.24 | Pyrrhus | healers spriests... hunter and what not middle |
| 04:44.28 | Pyrrhus | seemed to work ok... |
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| 04:44.35 | snurre | we keep him in middle |
| 04:44.37 | Pyrrhus | there was a few shatters no one died.. |
| 04:45.07 | Pyrrhus | well we didnt pot at all last night |
| 04:45.24 | Pyrrhus | so tommorow night were gonna go in and do one practice.. than go max pots |
| 04:45.43 | Pyrrhus | we got him to 32% no pots last night |
| 04:45.58 | Pyrrhus | so well see |
| 04:46.03 | snurre | should take him then |
| 04:46.07 | Pyrrhus | snu he ever bug for ya? |
| 04:46.15 | Pyrrhus | our only kill was bugged ;) |
| 04:46.26 | snurre | nope, not bugged for us |
| 04:46.31 | Pyrrhus | no shatter/hatefull strikes |
| 04:46.41 | snurre | we always get the max amount, it feels like |
| 04:46.45 | Pyrrhus | we didnt really realize it till about 65% than popped all consumes |
| 04:46.54 | Pyrrhus | he grew to 19 |
| 04:46.57 | Pyrrhus | and mt lived :) |
| 04:47.04 | snurre | we had 22 once :p |
| 04:47.07 | Pyrrhus | wow |
| 04:47.11 | snurre | first time we went, with tons of healers |
| 04:47.13 | Pyrrhus | how much hp mt have max? |
| 04:47.27 | snurre | 17k or so then |
| 04:47.34 | snurre | OT druid had 23k tho |
| 04:47.37 | Pyrrhus | he should of been getting 1 shotted at 18 grows.. |
| 04:47.43 | Pyrrhus | ah |
| 04:47.50 | Pyrrhus | yea out mt had 21k |
| 04:47.58 | Pyrrhus | with 6 healers |
| 04:48.00 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
| 04:48.23 | Pyrrhus | how many times you guys kill him? |
| 04:48.31 | Pyrrhus | my server only has 2 kills period |
| 04:48.43 | Pyrrhus | was funny other guild was like ahaha server first.... yet they cant repeat |
| 04:49.03 | snurre | hehe |
| 04:49.05 | snurre | we have 2 kills |
| 04:49.26 | Pyrrhus | its so much luck based its rediculous |
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| 04:50.13 | Pyrrhus | I actually like Kaz, some very unique fights there |
| 04:54.03 | Pyrrhus | haha someone in mage forums is asking about a macro to cast scorch instead of fireball when the vulnerabilty wears off.... |
| 04:54.03 | Cryect | Shrug gruul isn't that luck based once people are used to the fight |
| 04:54.09 | Pyrrhus | someone replied.. |
| 04:54.09 | Pyrrhus | Just bind scorch to the Alt key and Fireball to the F4 key, then simply spam both of them at the same time. |
| 04:54.15 | Cryect | it appears more luck based than it really is |
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| 04:58.37 | ckknight | Cryect: now make Excel in WoW |
| 04:59.24 | Cryect | yeah just in case I need to do spreadsheets in the middle of a raid |
| 04:59.44 | Cryect | in which case something tells me excel is opened on my second monitor |
| 05:00.55 | art3mis | anyone know if they changed how mc resist works? |
| 05:01.03 | art3mis | my mc's keep breaking after like 10 seconds |
| 05:01.30 | Cryect | They didn't change it recently |
| 05:01.33 | Cryect | you MCing players? |
| 05:01.44 | Cryect | if its on players it will only last 12 seconds |
| 05:03.28 | vhaarr | Mobs and players also get a chance to resist duration spells every 2 seconds. |
| 05:04.41 | snurre | razuvious.. grrr.. |
| 05:04.57 | Cryect | Heh you doing razuvious? |
| 05:05.01 | snurre | no |
| 05:05.10 | snurre | but MC breaks was a bitch already then :/ |
| 05:05.37 | Daemona | Daemonas Tips to earn Gold: get a working 5man with 2 healers, 2 dps 1 tank move to Stormwind Cathredal, pull the archbishop into the crypt, kill him, loot 90g, repeat. |
| 05:05.38 | Cryect | well heartbeat resist checks were in back then |
| 05:05.39 | Daemona | :D |
| 05:06.12 | snurre | respawn time? |
| 05:06.19 | Cryect | Oh my they will nerf him just like they nerf Lady Proudmore |
| 05:06.23 | Daemona | questmob, 7 minutes after kill :D |
| 05:06.37 | Pyrrhus | damn hordies.. |
| 05:06.39 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 05:06.50 | Pyrrhus | Horde on my server killed Borav :) |
| 05:07.27 | snurre | hm, so you have to get someone to do the quest and summon him? |
| 05:07.36 | Cryect | no he's always there |
| 05:07.38 | Daemona | we did 4 times quite well.... then suddenly 10 allies showed up which watched... and watched ... and watched ...and then aoe'd us at 5% boss hp ;) |
| 05:07.39 | snurre | ah k |
| 05:07.42 | Cryect | but since he is a quest giver |
| 05:07.45 | Cryect | he respawns fast |
| 05:08.12 | snurre | gotta try that tomorrow then :p |
| 05:08.23 | Pyrrhus | Know of anything like that for alliance? |
| 05:08.24 | NightHawkTheSane | you have to wonder why blizzard does stupid things like that. |
| 05:08.42 | Cryect | because he used to be the Leader of SW |
| 05:08.46 | Cryect | so they gave him some gold |
| 05:09.07 | Cryect | all the various leaders have gold |
| 05:09.16 | Cryect | Lady Proudmore had a few hundred gold |
| 05:09.21 | Cryect | with similar respawn time |
| 05:09.33 | NightHawkTheSane | which is equally silly |
| 05:09.48 | art3mis | every 2 seconds now? |
| 05:09.51 | art3mis | gd |
| 05:12.00 | Pyrrhus | where is Lady Proudmore? |
| 05:12.08 | FryGuy- | isn't she in theramore? |
| 05:12.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Theramoore |
| 05:13.16 | Cryect | yes |
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| 05:20.50 | Funkeh` | ckknight: ace2 has been blocked from an action only available to the blizzard UI blabla disable/ignore every time i try to use the stuck tool |
| 05:21.07 | ckknight | get Bugsack |
| 05:21.29 | Funkeh` | i have buggrabber than i enable once in a blue moon |
| 05:21.33 | Funkeh` | how will that make it work |
| 05:21.45 | ckknight | it won't, it'll just give me a proper error message |
| 05:21.52 | Funkeh` | alright |
| 05:21.54 | ckknight | so I can figure out the issue |
| 05:24.46 | Funkeh` | relog to turn it on and its starts working, typical |
| 05:30.27 | nymbia | taint |
| 05:30.27 | nymbia | try again after running a while |
| 05:32.24 | Funkeh` | alright |
| 05:52.25 | Arrowmaster | im not sure but ive noticed with buggrabber/bugsack that when i uncheck the hide ui errors option it doesnt seem to actually take effect |
| 05:54.38 | Funkeh` | later |
| 05:57.35 | NightHawkTheSane | I really fucking hate pvp servers. it's like the lowest form of intelligence there is. |
| 05:59.18 | NightHawkTheSane | seriously. |
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| 06:14.00 | Pyrrhus | NightHawkTheSane: Why did you role on a pvp? |
| 06:14.20 | wobin | It's true |
| 06:15.15 | Pyrrhus | Well yea wasnt gonna argue him there |
| 06:15.30 | Pyrrhus | but it begs the question why role a pvp server if you dont like it? |
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| 06:22.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Pyrrhus: because my friends did. |
| 06:22.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Pyrrhus: and you meant "Roll" |
| 06:23.12 | JuhoLei | How could I get Aguf look like this http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3064/wowscrnshot031607010318fv0.jpg ? I know it's Nurfed in that picture, but what should I edit in aguf to get the third row with name and level? |
| 06:27.24 | Pyrrhus | NightHawkTheSane: :) sry at work I have to tyoe "role" alot lol |
| 06:27.27 | NightHawkTheSane | heh.. meredith mckay |
| 06:27.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Pyrrhus: lol, np. I just see those two confused a lot. |
| 06:28.06 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 06:28.14 | Pyrrhus | Yea I hear ya.. im on a pvp as well |
| 06:28.27 | Pyrrhus | rolled there because of friends that stopped playing like 3 months after the game came out.. |
| 06:28.34 | Pyrrhus | and have made lots of new friends :) |
| 06:29.37 | Pyrrhus | I killed a warrior earlier today about 100ft off the ground.. :) |
| 06:29.41 | Pyrrhus | spirit res ftw |
| 06:30.38 | NightHawkTheSane | see, now that's the kind of idiotic behavior that i find abhorrent |
| 06:31.05 | Pyrrhus | lol was fighting at Haala.. perfectly acceptable |
| 06:31.27 | Pyrrhus | not like I found someone afk.. |
| 06:31.41 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
| 06:32.06 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, if they wanted you to fight while flying, they would have made it easier than "spam all your instants while falling and hope they dont just have more hp than you can burst" |
| 06:32.34 | Pyrrhus | nah wasnt like that at all |
| 06:32.49 | Pyrrhus | he was fighting us with 8 other hordies.. |
| 06:32.52 | Pyrrhus | was 9v3 |
| 06:33.00 | Pyrrhus | we were spanking them.. he bailed off the cliff.. |
| 06:33.12 | Pyrrhus | than mounted and tried to get away.. he initiated the fight |
| 06:33.20 | Pyrrhus | course im gonna chase him :) |
| 06:33.30 | Pyrrhus | so he stopped at like 100ft.. and stood there watching |
| 06:33.38 | Pyrrhus | with like 15% health |
| 06:33.43 | Pyrrhus | so I fireblasted his butt |
| 06:33.45 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
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| 06:51.20 | Micron_WoW | alright, I finally got irc working. |
| 07:01.14 | Pyrrhus | grats :) |
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| 07:07.20 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39b7v1wzfg <-- ultimate warrior at his best |
| 07:10.39 | syeren | If anyone is running around with enough HP that can be bursted down by a single mage these days they deserve to die NightHawkTheSane. |
| 07:12.40 | Fisker- | What damage has pyroblast reached? 1 billion? |
| 07:14.39 | syeren | No idea, never crits on me these days :P |
| 07:15.13 | syeren | And if an AP POM PYRO mage steps in the arena, then my team's hunter is going to make short work of him. |
| 07:15.21 | syeren | Or any mage that isn't Ice for that matter ;p |
| 07:21.57 | Pyrrhus | syeren: I rock hunters as a heavy fire ele mage |
| 07:22.06 | Fisker- | DIE IN RIGHTEOUS FIRE |
| 07:22.42 | Pyrrhus | blink onto em.. fn ice lance blastwave CoC fireblast GG hunter |
| 07:23.04 | Pyrrhus | than again.. that combo kills most people |
| 07:23.07 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
| 07:23.26 | Cryect | Fisker- under the right conditions should be really high heh considering seeing 6k+ Shadowbolts and Fireballs in raids but those are very favored conditions |
| 07:23.34 | Cryect | but those don't have things like AP or PI being used |
| 07:24.12 | Pyrrhus | Cryect: Fireballs dont hit that high unless you burn CD's |
| 07:24.15 | Cryect | and add things like berserker buffs etc and can push a lot higher |
| 07:24.29 | Pyrrhus | my highest Pyro was around 5k |
| 07:24.33 | Pyrrhus | with berserker buff |
| 07:24.37 | Pyrrhus | so.. |
| 07:24.52 | Pyrrhus | Ive hit fireblasts instant cast for 4.5 |
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| 07:25.02 | Pyrrhus | I think Pyro needs to be revamped |
| 07:25.14 | Pyrrhus | cause its not even worth casting inless you have AP |
| 07:25.16 | Pyrrhus | and PoM |
| 07:25.46 | Cryect | Fireball max ~5k looking at our mages from one boss kill |
| 07:26.03 | Pyrrhus | yea fully buffed boss fight right? |
| 07:26.08 | sixi|1b | hi, is there any posibility to get the name and the number of items i received after opening a mail? |
| 07:26.12 | Pyrrhus | Pyro would only grab 5.3 |
| 07:26.37 | Cryect | Of course but no AP or Berserker Buff or Berserking Warrior etc |
| 07:26.45 | Pyrrhus | yea |
| 07:26.56 | Pyrrhus | well Im a scorch ignite mage always have been so. |
| 07:26.58 | Cryect | But the boss also is fully scorched/misery |
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| 07:27.04 | Pyrrhus | and Coe :) |
| 07:27.08 | NightHawkTheSane | GOD i swear I'm grouped with the dumbest group of people ever in this durnholde instance |
| 07:27.19 | Pyrrhus | NightHawkTheSane: LOL sucks to be you |
| 07:27.21 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
| 07:27.31 | NightHawkTheSane | The resto shaman stood in the middle of where a group of mobs spawned, instantly gibs, and then is like "no heals." |
| 07:27.32 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30369 10ShutUp/ (. .ShutUp.lua.swp ShutUp.lua ShutUp.toc): ShutUp: Blocks incoming whispers from anyone except friends, guildmates, group/raid members and people you've whispered before. |
| 07:27.40 | Pyrrhus | haha |
| 07:27.47 | Cryect | Hmmm I wonder with the Mage Trinket from SSC can you pop a Mage Gem at the same time as a +Spl Dmg trinket |
| 07:27.55 | Pyrrhus | had someone ask me earlier how he could get a mana loom... |
| 07:28.05 | Cryect | haha |
| 07:28.09 | Pyrrhus | Nah cry I use the flame caps |
| 07:28.14 | Pyrrhus | +trinket |
| 07:28.17 | Pyrrhus | plus combustion |
| 07:28.24 | Pyrrhus | and I hit fireballs around 3.4k |
| 07:28.28 | Pyrrhus | but my +dmg sucks.. |
| 07:28.34 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30370 10ShutUp/.ShutUp.lua.swp: ShutUp: Remove temp file. |
| 07:28.41 | Pyrrhus | I have 30.05 crit so.. my scorches crit like crazy :) |
| 07:28.53 | mjc | moo. |
| 07:28.59 | Pyrrhus | moo to you to |
| 07:29.38 | Pyrrhus | so.... im really bored\ |
| 07:29.52 | sixi|1b | hm... doesnt seem as if anyone talks about addon development :| |
| 07:30.08 | Pyrrhus | we do when something needs talking about ;) |
| 07:30.08 | Cryect | haha oh my 7837 shadowbolt from one of our warlocks that fight |
| 07:30.18 | Pyrrhus | see now thats bs |
| 07:30.27 | Cryect | http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/HydrossKill_/lolo.html |
| 07:31.01 | sixi|1b | i do need, but seems to be ignored :] |
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| 07:31.31 | Cryect | hmmm not sure |
| 07:31.56 | Cryect | I mean it triggers an event |
| 07:32.05 | Cryect | but not sure if its the default loot event or a special mail loot event |
| 07:32.14 | mjc | I need to get some more regen goin on on my priest |
| 07:32.22 | sixi|1b | indeed it triggers the BAG_UPDATE |
| 07:32.27 | mjc | seem to exit most fights with 50% mana |
| 07:32.27 | Pyrrhus | dont see a 7k SB on there |
| 07:32.38 | Cryect | Look at the crit part Pyrrhus |
| 07:32.44 | Cryect | Max |
| 07:32.52 | sixi|1b | but how to get the name of the item and know how many peaces came per mail? |
| 07:32.56 | Cryect | or just do ctrl+f 7837 :-p |
| 07:33.19 | xlvii | mm.. |
| 07:33.22 | Pyrrhus | OP lol |
| 07:33.29 | xlvii | i know this isn't just a uh.. 'wow support' channel. |
| 07:33.44 | xlvii | but, i'm about to get vindicator's brand, like, 200 reputation from it. |
| 07:33.51 | xlvii | and i don't know what enchant to put on it. |
| 07:33.55 | Pyrrhus | Focus6 |
| 07:33.55 | Pyrrhus | Essence of Sapphiron4 |
| 07:33.55 | Pyrrhus | Power of the Guardian4 |
| 07:33.55 | Pyrrhus | Prayer of Fortitude1 |
| 07:33.55 | Pyrrhus | Touch of Shadow1 |
| 07:33.56 | Pyrrhus | Major Shadow Power1 |
| 07:33.58 | Pyrrhus | Destruction1 |
| 07:34.00 | Pyrrhus | Prayer of Mending1 |
| 07:34.00 | NightHawkTheSane | xlvii: that's the sword, yeah? |
| 07:34.02 | Pyrrhus | Adept's Elixir1 |
| 07:34.04 | Pyrrhus | Heroism1 |
| 07:34.06 | Pyrrhus | Ancestral Fortitude |
| 07:34.08 | Pyrrhus | Pot much? |
| 07:34.10 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 07:34.10 | xlvii | nighthawkthesane, yes. |
| 07:34.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm, I guess it depends on how soon you think it'd get upgraded. |
| 07:34.35 | xlvii | my guild will be starting khaz in about, 15 days. |
| 07:35.01 | Cryect | just get +15 agi |
| 07:35.05 | Pyrrhus | hey Cry.. |
| 07:35.10 | Pyrrhus | what kind of database is that? |
| 07:35.11 | Cryect | or Mongoose if you have the mats |
| 07:35.16 | Pyrrhus | like how does all that work? |
| 07:35.17 | Cryect | WoW Web Stats |
| 07:35.22 | Pyrrhus | addon? |
| 07:35.27 | Cryect | use the combatlog |
| 07:35.30 | Pyrrhus | like full out addon? |
| 07:35.31 | Cryect | then goto this site http://www.lossendil.fr/serendipity/ |
| 07:35.41 | Cryect | No you just record a combatlog with /combatlog |
| 07:35.52 | Pyrrhus | ohhh shit nice |
| 07:35.58 | Cryect | then goto that site load up the java program and it parses the log |
| 07:36.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, if you can easily swing the mats for mongoose, that's your best bet. Aside from that, the old standard of +15 agility is about as good as you get i think |
| 07:36.07 | Cryect | you will want to trim up your log for just the fight beforehand |
| 07:36.27 | Pyrrhus | does /reloadui clear your logs? |
| 07:36.31 | Cryect | and btw you are missing not seeing the flask in that attempt |
| 07:36.34 | Cryect | no |
| 07:36.44 | Cryect | it keeps appending to the end of combatlog.txt |
| 07:36.51 | Cryect | or actually wowcombatlog.tx |
| 07:37.07 | Cryect | Heh I've got a few hundred megs I need to go through and get rid of worthless ones |
| 07:37.12 | Pyrrhus | so.. wait just before starting the boss.. do /combatlog |
| 07:37.17 | Cryect | yep |
| 07:37.19 | Pyrrhus | and it starts recording? |
| 07:37.21 | Pyrrhus | ok |
| 07:37.27 | Pyrrhus | how do you stop recording? |
| 07:37.29 | Cryect | then /combatlog again stops it |
| 07:37.31 | Pyrrhus | ok |
| 07:37.39 | Cryect | I only wish blizzard let us specify the file it writes to |
| 07:37.40 | Pyrrhus | than grab the info from the txt file and parse |
| 07:37.42 | Pyrrhus | nice |
| 07:37.52 | Cryect | so I could easily have individual combatlog files for each boss fight/attempt |
| 07:38.03 | Pyrrhus | yea um |
| 07:38.14 | Pyrrhus | is this like a website portle..? |
| 07:38.25 | Pyrrhus | or how does it install persay on a site? |
| 07:38.33 | Pyrrhus | have its own database I assume |
| 07:38.44 | Cryect | it just creates a bunch of HTML files |
| 07:38.48 | Cryect | there is no database |
| 07:39.04 | Cryect | its just all pregenerated |
| 07:39.22 | Pyrrhus | gonna go read the documentation.. not quite understanding how its working website wise |
| 07:39.31 | Pyrrhus | liek is it contained on your own site or theirs.? |
| 07:39.33 | mjc | it reads the text in and spits out html |
| 07:39.34 | Pyrrhus | like |
| 07:39.40 | mjc | relative urls |
| 07:39.44 | Pyrrhus | ok |
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| 07:39.56 | Pyrrhus | so install wise on ym site is just a folder correct? |
| 07:39.58 | Pyrrhus | my |
| 07:40.04 | Cryect | yeah |
| 07:40.08 | Cryect | just copy and paste the folder |
| 07:40.09 | Pyrrhus | no database creation or any of that crap |
| 07:40.12 | Cryect | yep |
| 07:40.13 | Pyrrhus | nice |
| 07:40.18 | Cryect | as simple as can be |
| 07:41.09 | Pyrrhus | ok checking it out.. |
| 07:41.20 | lhunath | is there a place I can get MD5s for the ace svn files? |
| 07:41.29 | Pyrrhus | launches a java app on my comp.. toss in the combatlog and it spits out a folder with html files? |
| 07:41.41 | Pyrrhus | correct? |
| 07:41.45 | Cryect | yeah |
| 07:41.47 | Pyrrhus | than just upload files to host |
| 07:41.49 | Pyrrhus | nice nice nice |
| 07:41.51 | Pyrrhus | :) |
| 07:41.52 | Cryect | a few things you have to do in the program |
| 07:42.17 | Cryect | Like type your name in (or whoever recorded the log) and make sure all the players have the right class set |
| 07:42.31 | Pyrrhus | so browse the log first |
| 07:42.34 | Pyrrhus | before parsing |
| 07:42.44 | Pyrrhus | or after |
| 07:42.55 | Cryect | no this in the program |
| 07:43.05 | Cryect | heh just try it out its fairly obvious |
| 07:43.12 | Pyrrhus | Ok well im at work so.. :( |
| 07:43.18 | Pyrrhus | need a log |
| 07:43.19 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 07:43.26 | Cryect | one second I can prolly upload something |
| 07:43.30 | Pyrrhus | k |
| 07:44.55 | Cryect | here's a tiny log of part of something http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/temp.txt |
| 07:45.16 | Pyrrhus | thats tiny? |
| 07:45.17 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 07:45.19 | Pyrrhus | j/k |
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| 07:45.38 | Cryect | heh its 10 seconds :-p |
| 07:46.22 | Pyrrhus | ok have log copied to a file on my system at home.. (remotely connected) :) |
| 07:46.31 | Pyrrhus | now for the config.. |
| 07:46.44 | Pyrrhus | html reports.. dmg and heals bvroken down by actor.. whats that? |
| 07:47.09 | Pyrrhus | nvm ill read documentation :) |
| 07:47.12 | Fisker- | BLIZZARD!!!! |
| 07:47.35 | Fisker- | Then some people say you should use Enchant Ring - Weapon Might to skill from 360-370 |
| 07:47.44 | Fisker- | "Oooh consortium rep, almost revered with them" |
| 07:47.56 | Fisker- | And then the vendor is in karazhan :/ |
| 07:48.02 | Fisker- | QQ |
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| 07:49.31 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah he's like 2/3 of the way through, just before the chess event. pita to get to if you cant clear that far. |
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| 07:49.38 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30371 10ShutUp/ShutUp.lua: ShutUp: Bugfix. |
| 07:49.55 | Cryect | Find someone with a cleared instance and borrow theirs |
| 07:50.00 | Cryect | shouldn't be hard to find on a server |
| 07:50.01 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30372 10ShutUp/ShutUp.lua: ShutUp: Remove debug print. |
| 07:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | thats more of a pain in the ass than it ought to be |
| 07:50.13 | Fisker- | i'll just use our guilds |
| 07:50.20 | Pyrrhus | Cry.. players name who generated? |
| 07:50.42 | Cryect | well that would be Cryect |
| 07:50.48 | Cryect | but it doesn't matter what you put |
| 07:50.59 | Cryect | it just has to replace all the you's with that name |
| 07:51.59 | Fisker- | Enchanting is retarded though |
| 07:52.12 | Fisker- | Yay i gain +5 healing on gloves for the small price of some 150-200g |
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| 07:57.04 | Pyrrhus | Cryect: how long do the reports generally take to generate? |
| 07:58.09 | Pyrrhus | well with the log you gave me.. after generating it seems to only count 1 persons dmg |
| 08:03.00 | Pyrrhus | Cryect: any chance I could get a larger portion of the log? |
| 08:03.07 | Pyrrhus | maybe a full boss |
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| 08:09.18 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30374 10ShutUp/ShutUp.lua: ShutUp: Don't add allowed players to the SV, to save size. |
| 08:09.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. I haven't looked at the svn/files yet, just now sat down . . . what's ShutUp do precisely? |
| 08:10.19 | vhaarr | blocks all whispers except from people in your friends list, guild list and party |
| 08:10.22 | vhaarr | and gms |
| 08:10.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. Can see the use, but probably a bit more restrictive than I need. |
| 08:11.02 | kergoth | and those you've whispered, right? |
| 08:11.06 | vhaarr | yes |
| 08:11.09 | vhaarr | and those you've whispered |
| 08:11.24 | vhaarr | well I haven't tested it much, noone I know is online now |
| 08:11.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Went out with my roommate tonight . . . and we came back home with a new 37" LCD HDTV. |
| 08:11.29 | vhaarr | so it's hard to test |
| 08:12.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Now I get to do research and shop around online to find a good home theater package. |
| 08:13.24 | Kaelten | hows it going guys? |
| 08:13.40 | vhaarr | hey kael |
| 08:13.45 | Kaelten | heh, nice TV :) |
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| 08:14.26 | Kaelten | hows it going vhaarr? |
| 08:14.36 | ckknight | hey Kaelten |
| 08:14.50 | ckknight | I'm tweaking the AceOptions spec |
| 08:14.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah. I need to get my Color Essentials disc back from a friend to calibrate it properly. One annoying thing on it, the menu is dead center in the screen with a white background, can't move it, so it's smack dab in the way of the test patterns. Makes getting it set up juuuuust right more of a chore than it should be. |
| 08:15.17 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 08:15.23 | Kaelten | what you changing ck? |
| 08:15.33 | ckknight | cladhaire and vhaarr recommended some stuff |
| 08:15.44 | Kaelten | cool |
| 08:15.46 | ckknight | multi-toggle control |
| 08:15.56 | ckknight | that's what I'm doing now |
| 08:16.01 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 08:16.05 | Kaelten | intersting |
| 08:16.07 | ckknight | Dewdrop's implementation was easy for that, AceConsole's has a bug I'm trying to find |
| 08:17.22 | Kaelten | I've done one of my out of the loop moments, been super busy real life |
| 08:17.32 | Kaelten | now I get to pack up everything I own into boxes over the next few weeks. |
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| 08:18.06 | ckknight | ah, right |
| 08:18.34 | Kaelten | moving to san fransisco |
| 08:19.47 | echos | Anyone know of a good widget system for developing cross platform applications? |
| 08:20.00 | Kaelten | echos: I think python has one. |
| 08:20.04 | Kaelten | can't remember the name atm |
| 08:20.15 | echos | python has tcl/tk |
| 08:20.23 | echos | that's in the standard release |
| 08:20.55 | vhaarr | echos: Depends what you need. |
| 08:20.59 | ckknight | wxWidgets |
| 08:21.02 | ckknight | Gtk+ |
| 08:21.03 | ckknight | Qt |
| 08:21.05 | vhaarr | And what language you're using. |
| 08:21.10 | ckknight | Swing |
| 08:21.11 | ckknight | SWT |
| 08:21.20 | Kaelten | .Net/Mono? |
| 08:21.43 | ckknight | for .NET/Mono, go with Gtk# or SWF |
| 08:21.52 | ckknight | Mono has a pretty good implementation now |
| 08:22.01 | Kaelten | interesting |
| 08:22.04 | echos | But I was wondering if it was worth it to use that or wxWidgets for cross platform or just use the ones specific to each os, So like windows (GDI+), Linux/gnome (GTK+), OSX (?) |
| 08:22.07 | ckknight | there's a GSoC project to get it working on Mac OS X |
| 08:22.17 | Kaelten | I'm not doing any app development got too many other stuff to work on. |
| 08:22.19 | ckknight | echos: depends on what you're making |
| 08:22.36 | Kaelten | echos: how complex is the UI? |
| 08:23.08 | echos | The UI isn't going to be that complez I don't think there is going to be any special widgets |
| 08:23.12 | Kaelten | I've heard some mac users complain about some of the cross platforms not being pretty enough or something lol |
| 08:23.33 | echos | what does OSX use for its defualt widget system? |
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| 08:23.54 | Kaelten | that I'm not sure :S |
| 08:24.04 | ckknight | echos: Cocoa |
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| 08:24.13 | cncfanatics | yo all :) |
| 08:24.28 | Kaelten | hi cnc |
| 08:24.30 | echos | but yeah the language is going to be Python |
| 08:24.53 | ckknight | Pycocoa or something |
| 08:25.18 | Kaelten | ya, python has some sort of cocoa lib |
| 08:25.38 | echos | Well besides native systems is wxWidgets really any good? |
| 08:26.06 | echos | I don't really know much about it, other than I know VideoLAN uses it. |
| 08:26.14 | sixi|1b | how can i get the itemid from an item? |
| 08:26.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: re: "its not pretty enough", that's a silly complaint, however I think there's a valid argument for 'cross platform' apps that dont tie in to OSX well enough to fit in with the 'look and feel' of the rest of the system, which is probably what they were complaining abouot. :P |
| 08:26.34 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: ya thats basically it. |
| 08:26.50 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: one thing I will say for macs is that all in all its prettier than XP, |
| 08:26.52 | ckknight | macheads are a picky bunch |
| 08:27.00 | Kaelten | heh, true |
| 08:27.27 | kergoth | wxwidgets is weak. trying to be generic just results in not being well suited to any of the uis, instead of being good in at least one |
| 08:27.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:27.27 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: I like my built in spellchecking in properly done apps, thankyouverymuch. :D |
| 08:27.27 | tig | I remember wxWidgets as quite painful, but that was a couple of years ago |
| 08:27.28 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: that is nice |
| 08:27.36 | ckknight | I have no idea what that isn't standard on other OSes |
| 08:27.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Seriously. |
| 08:28.05 | Kaelten | heh, especially since they still tuff from mac anyway |
| 08:28.26 | ckknight | what did English ever do to you, Kaelten? |
| 08:28.28 | ckknight | :-P |
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| 08:28.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: if you were on a mac, you would have known you spelled something wrong. ;) |
| 08:28.57 | Kaelten | ckknight: bah, lol |
| 08:29.01 | Kaelten | I'm just sleepy |
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| 08:29.05 | Kaelten | its 3:30 am here |
| 08:29.15 | Kaelten | and I've been busy |
| 08:29.36 | Kaelten | god I should reread things this late :s |
| 08:29.36 | ckknight | get some sleep, guy |
| 08:29.56 | Kaelten | ya the episode I was watching just ended |
| 08:29.59 | Kaelten | and on that note. |
| 08:30.01 | Kaelten | g'night |
| 08:30.37 | tig | I have the problem that some fubar icons simply do not appear, has anybody heard of such a thing? |
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| 08:31.37 | Darravis | How do I remove AceDruidBar from the svn? Im about to import it again with a different name |
| 08:31.55 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30376 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - added multiToggle support |
| 08:31.59 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30377 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - added multiToggle support |
| 08:32.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Darravis: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 08:33.31 | ckknight | Nargiddley: ping |
| 08:34.41 | cncfanatics | Darravis, svn rm . |
| 08:34.45 | cncfanatics | should work, not sure |
| 08:35.03 | Nargiddley | ckknight, pong |
| 08:35.28 | ckknight | Nargiddley: you may want to implement multiToggle in Waterfall |
| 08:35.43 | Nargiddley | ckknight, k i'll look at it |
| 08:35.56 | ckknight | documenting it now |
| 08:36.18 | ckknight | but it's like a radio field that can click on and off values arbitrarily |
| 08:38.33 | sylvanaar | does waterfall support "hidden" ? |
| 08:39.07 | ckknight | actually... |
| 08:39.10 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 08:39.17 | ckknight | don't document yet. |
| 08:39.20 | ckknight | plz. |
| 08:39.27 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:39.30 | ckknight | don't implement yet |
| 08:39.33 | ckknight | I'm going to change the get thing |
| 08:39.35 | ckknight | to make sense |
| 08:39.38 | ckknight | and not be stupid |
| 08:39.42 | ckknight | but be smart |
| 08:39.50 | ckknight | like one of those elephants |
| 08:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | the pink ones? |
| 08:40.01 | Nargiddley | i think, letting the check box look like a radio and putting in a set of those would be best |
| 08:40.19 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I prefer a nice mauve |
| 08:41.24 | NightHawkTheSane | well, mauve is rather nice. |
| 08:41.26 | CIA-18 | 03darravis * r30378 10AceDruidBar/: Removed AceDruidBar |
| 08:41.50 | wereHamster | isn't tourist embedded? |
| 08:42.28 | wereHamster | fubar locationfu gives me an error on startup: cannot find an instance of tourist-2.0 |
| 08:42.33 | sylvanaar | well, allright, for whatever reaon Prat's options table is showing hidden branches in watefall |
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| 08:43.19 | ckknight | wereHamster: probably forgot to embed it |
| 08:47.16 | CIA-18 | 03darravis * r30379 10SmartyCat/ (. SmartyCat.lua SmartyCat.toc): |
| 08:47.16 | CIA-18 | SmartyCat: initial commit |
| 08:47.16 | CIA-18 | - Formally AceDruidBar |
| 08:47.30 | Nargiddley | hm, i'll have to check that the tree is honoring it :/ |
| 08:48.19 | Nargiddley | hm it should be doing it |
| 08:50.31 | sylvanaar | prat's "disabled mods" section has hidden = true, but it shows still |
| 08:50.32 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30380 10Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
| 08:50.32 | CIA-18 | Manufac: |
| 08:50.32 | CIA-18 | - Toss in some item icons, those are fun. |
| 08:51.00 | Nargiddley | wait, i see the problem. I'll fix |
| 08:53.34 | Pyrrhus | Cryect: still here? |
| 08:54.14 | Pyrrhus | how do you check what the last thing someone said in irc was without scrolling through everything? |
| 08:54.23 | Pyrrhus | whats the command for it? |
| 08:54.36 | kergoth | you're probably looking for /lastlog |
| 08:55.42 | CIA-18 | 03darravis * r30381 10SmartyCat/: |
| 08:55.42 | CIA-18 | SmartyCat: |
| 08:55.42 | CIA-18 | - Externals |
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| 08:58.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+v GoogleSearch] by ChanServ |
| 08:58.32 | CIA-18 | 03darravis * r30382 10SmartyCatManaBar/ (11 files): |
| 08:58.32 | CIA-18 | SmartyCatManaBar: initial commit |
| 08:58.32 | CIA-18 | - Formally AceDruidBar |
| 08:58.32 | CIA-18 | - Mana Bar to use with SmartyCat |
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| 09:01.03 | CIA-18 | 03darravis * r30383 10SmartyCatManaBar/: |
| 09:01.03 | CIA-18 | SmartyCatManaBar: |
| 09:01.03 | CIA-18 | - Externals |
| 09:08.10 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30384 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - change multiToggle implementation |
| 09:08.17 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30385 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - change multiToggle implementation |
| 09:09.47 | ckknight | okay, Nargiddley, should be good now |
| 09:10.05 | ckknight | really, see the example for what you need to know |
| 09:10.12 | ckknight | it's an extra field: multiToggle = true |
| 09:10.25 | ckknight | and the get and set functions take another argument, the key |
| 09:10.39 | Nargiddley | ckknight, k. i'll prob have to look at it tomorrow. trying to find why the tree isnt using hidden |
| 09:10.51 | ckknight | ah |
| 09:10.58 | ckknight | vhaarr: ping |
| 09:11.17 | Fisker- | pew pew ping pong |
| 09:16.43 | CIA-18 | 03nargiddley * r30386 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: TreeView will now properly hide hidden groups |
| 09:21.49 | cncfanatics | ~seen JJSheets |
| 09:22.15 | purl | jjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 2h 18m 2s ago, saying: 'night ya'll'. |
| 09:22.15 | cncfanatics | Fisker-n cheers :) |
| 09:22.15 | cncfanatics | playing tbh :) |
| 09:22.15 | cncfanatics | tbc* |
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| 09:25.47 | Fisker- | cheers to you too cncfanatics |
| 09:25.54 | Fisker- | just got my enchant from the razaani spell-thiefs |
| 09:30.28 | JuhoLei | Anyone knows what I should tweak to get aguf look like this http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3064/wowscrnshot031607010318fv0.jpg? It's Nurfed in that picture. Basically I just want to add that third row with name and lvl above the health and mana. Mulesh2 in AUF layouts is a bit like that, but I want the portrait to be fullsized. |
| 09:31.28 | xlvii | i think he/she was referring to the size of it? |
| 09:31.55 | xlvii | wow, old. |
| 09:31.57 | xlvii | sorry. |
| 09:32.11 | Fisker- | btw how was the speed cncfanatics? |
| 09:32.38 | vhaarr | ckknight: pong |
| 09:32.56 | ckknight | I did the multiToggle thing |
| 09:33.10 | ckknight | I like the final result |
| 09:33.12 | vhaarr | ah, the thing clad posted about? |
| 09:33.17 | ckknight | it's much cleaner than the suggested way |
| 09:33.22 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:34.17 | vhaarr | multiToggle, ah |
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| 09:34.52 | CIA-18 | 03toadkiller * r30387 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: |
| 09:34.52 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0 |
| 09:34.52 | CIA-18 | -- 30360 Murky pet |
| 09:34.52 | CIA-18 | -- 28102:60 Onslaught Elixer |
| 09:34.52 | CIA-18 | -- 22927:2500 Ironshield Potion |
| 09:34.53 | CIA-18 | -- 28103 Adept's Elixir |
| 09:34.53 | vhaarr | ckknight: does it work with passing groups? so the passing group set would be function(optionName, toggleKey, value), so to speak. |
| 09:35.00 | vhaarr | let me read the commits |
| 09:35.04 | ckknight | it should |
| 09:35.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Yay! Onslaught Elixir! |
| 09:35.13 | ckknight | I haven't quite tested, though |
| 09:36.02 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, had a max of 2 connections cuz of nub IE, but 300kb/s per file, so 600kb/s |
| 09:36.29 | vhaarr | ckknight: ah, so it just invokes the get/set handlers one time per key, then |
| 09:36.34 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:36.36 | vhaarr | guess that works |
| 09:36.41 | ckknight | which is a pretty nice way, all in all |
| 09:36.45 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 09:36.48 | ckknight | I had it so that it read a table before |
| 09:36.51 | ckknight | and it was kinda icky |
| 09:37.25 | Fisker- | ¤"&)&/¤%"!&/¤&/"!¤/)"!&/¤"!/ |
| 09:37.25 | Fisker- | ¤%21 |
| 09:37.25 | Fisker- | 1iskaoksda |
| 09:37.28 | Fisker- | HOHOHO |
| 09:37.36 | Nargiddley` | is it basicly a pass group with different semantics now ? |
| 09:37.37 | Fisker- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22534#M0z <-second fucking mob i kill |
| 09:37.49 | ckknight | Nargiddley: sorta. |
| 09:37.51 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: basically |
| 09:38.06 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: You just don't have to create all the sub-toggles, just put them in a table instead. |
| 09:38.06 | ckknight | implement it how it will look nicest, though |
| 09:38.18 | Nargiddley` | still trying to figure that one out |
| 09:38.23 | vhaarr | oh, and you can't have descriptions for them |
| 09:38.27 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, lucky :p |
| 09:38.29 | vhaarr | which is another limitation that should be fixed |
| 09:38.30 | Fisker- | i like my luck today |
| 09:38.33 | Fisker- | well cncfanatics |
| 09:38.36 | Nargiddley` | heading then indented checkboxes is my thought atm |
| 09:38.42 | Fisker- | it was also the second spell-thief i killed for the weapon enchant |
| 09:38.43 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:38.47 | ckknight | vhaarr: any ideas on how to fix that? |
| 09:38.56 | ckknight | validateDesc or something would work |
| 09:39.05 | vhaarr | ckknight: hrm, I guess the easiest way would just be to add another table, like validateDescriptions |
| 09:39.06 | ckknight | with key => description |
| 09:39.07 | vhaarr | right |
| 09:39.20 | vhaarr | it should obviously work on radio buttons as well |
| 09:39.46 | cncfanatics | hmmm, any ace exp bar mod ? |
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| 09:40.02 | vhaarr | ckknight: it seems multiToggles in passing groups do not send all the required parameters to the handlers |
| 09:40.10 | vhaarr | no, wait |
| 09:40.13 | vhaarr | ckknight: sorry, my fault |
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| 09:42.36 | Kelben | anyone around? |
| 09:42.38 | NightHawkTheSane | "I didn't bring my bloody cell phone with me, what's happening?" lol |
| 09:42.54 | Kelben | anyone familiar with castsequence macros? |
| 09:43.16 | Kelben | ie I'd like one spell to cast and then for the next 25 seconds (cooldown) another spell to cast |
| 09:43.18 | ckknight | sorta |
| 09:43.31 | Kelben | my macro keeps locking up or just doing it once |
| 09:43.38 | NightHawkTheSane | what's your macro? |
| 09:43.39 | chuckg | Doesn't work like that. |
| 09:43.52 | chuckg | castsequence resets when it hits the end, regardless. |
| 09:43.52 | Kelben | hmmm can't copy paste it |
| 09:43.57 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.08 | Fisker- | What if i want to cast alpha twice? |
| 09:44.16 | vhaarr | isn't it obvious? |
| 09:44.22 | ckknight | oh |
| 09:44.27 | Fisker- | no </sarcasm> |
| 09:44.37 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.40 | ckknight | there you go |
| 09:44.46 | ckknight | hold shift to reset it |
| 09:44.52 | ckknight | it'll cast Alpha again |
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| 09:44.59 | NightHawkTheSane | or, just.. you know... use two freaking buttons. |
| 09:45.05 | vhaarr | lol |
| 09:45.06 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: nah. |
| 09:45.08 | chuckg | You could just .. |
| 09:45.23 | xlvii | mm. |
| 09:45.28 | chuckg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:45.33 | chuckg | There you go, one button. |
| 09:45.44 | Kelben | wtf why can't i type out this macro |
| 09:45.54 | ckknight | my way will work. |
| 09:45.55 | vhaarr | chuckg: Where is the PICKONE key? I can't find it. |
| 09:45.58 | Kelben | nothing happens everytime i type it out and hit enter |
| 09:46.11 | chuckg | Enter doesn't do anything. |
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| 09:46.16 | chuckg | Hit "escape" to finish editing. |
| 09:46.19 | chuckg | Then click the macro. |
| 09:46.27 | chuckg | (after you've dragged it onto the action bar) |
| 09:46.28 | tlund | [10:45] #wowace <chuckg> /cast [modifier:PICKONE] TheFirst spell /cast TheSecondSpell |
| 09:46.31 | tlund | no |
| 09:46.35 | Kelben | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.37 | NightHawkTheSane | chuckg: you could just do "/cast [modifier:shift] Alpha; Bravo" instead of the double /casts |
| 09:46.41 | tlund | its /cast [modifier:PICKONE] TheFirstspell;TheSecondSpell |
| 09:46.42 | Kelben | in mirc nothing was happening |
| 09:46.53 | chuckg | Well there you go. |
| 09:47.20 | chuckg | Just do what tlund just wrote Kelben. |
| 09:47.23 | chuckg | And make it like .. |
| 09:47.25 | chuckg | modifier:alt |
| 09:47.27 | Kelben | will do |
| 09:47.35 | chuckg | Then you just hit alt and the key, it does frost nova. |
| 09:47.38 | chuckg | Otherwise it'll icelance. |
| 09:49.20 | Kelben | i was hoping to avoid hitting a second key to change casts |
| 09:49.30 | Kelben | just wanted to hit the button :S |
| 09:49.35 | NightHawkTheSane | what you actually want to do can't be done. |
| 09:49.49 | Kelben | ah didn't realize that |
| 09:49.50 | NightHawkTheSane | in fact, the 2.0 changes were put in place basically to prevent precisely that |
| 09:50.24 | chuckg | MUAHAHA |
| 09:50.24 | Kelben | bah |
| 09:50.33 | chuckg | The large prismatic market is MINE. |
| 09:51.22 | Iceroth | all the selfish enchanters should be shot.. they put them to ah for ~20g on my server, blues vendor for ~7g top |
| 09:51.51 | chuckg | My server isn't selfish. |
| 09:51.51 | chuckg | I am. |
| 09:52.00 | chuckg | I've bought up the last week of LPS under 18g. |
| 09:52.05 | chuckg | And I'm selling them at 25g a pop. |
| 09:52.18 | chuckg | And have earned, on an alt, enough gold to buy out anyone who tries to corner in. |
| 09:52.38 | chuckg | If it keeps up at this pace, I'll bump it to 30g. |
| 09:52.40 | chuckg | =D |
| 09:53.30 | NightHawkTheSane | chuckg: I |
| 09:53.32 | Kelben | where did they hide the dragon's breath icon >< |
| 09:53.39 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm v ery glad I'm not on your server. |
| 09:53.47 | chuckg | You think I'm bad? |
| 09:53.51 | NightHawkTheSane | yes. |
| 09:53.52 | chuckg | Read the SA forums. |
| 09:54.00 | chuckg | One guy has 60k gold from doing spider silk. |
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| 09:54.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Oh, I have no illusions that you're the worst. :P |
| 09:54.06 | chuckg | And Small Prismatic. |
| 09:54.15 | chuckg | He bumped the price from 2g to 15g per. |
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| 09:54.36 | chuckg | Then again, I went into TBC with 11k gold. |
| 09:54.40 | chuckg | So it's not like I'm hurting. |
| 09:55.20 | Iceroth | there really should be some restriction to prevent items once bought from AH to be put back there, just to fuck up ppl like you |
| 09:55.21 | NightHawkTheSane | And I hate you for that. :P |
| 09:55.30 | chuckg | Why? |
| 09:55.30 | ravagernl | my compliments to chuckg for his mobileframes :P |
| 09:55.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Iceroth: eh, that's just as bad as what it tries to prevent |
| 09:55.44 | chuckg | There's no reason why someone who enjoys economy can't enjoy economy in a game? |
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| 09:56.13 | Iceroth | because that forces the rest of the ppl who didn't get into this game to play mechants to farm more than they should |
| 09:56.16 | NightHawkTheSane | chuckg: because you're basically fucking over everyone who doesn't have gobs of money to spend on your overpriced crap, and doesnt have the time to farm for said money |
| 09:56.24 | chuckg | That's like saying that they shoudl really restrict what can be done with mods more because some people have more information available to them than others. |
| 09:56.33 | Iceroth | sigh |
| 09:56.40 | NightHawkTheSane | chuckg: Simple facT: free market economies are idiotic. |
| 09:56.49 | NightHawkTheSane | in a game or in real life, it doesnt matter. :P |
| 09:56.49 | chuckg | Is that so? |
| 09:57.02 | chuckg | Thanks ravagernl. |
| 09:57.06 | chuckg | I just finished up frame locking. |
| 09:57.19 | NightHawkTheSane | It eventually turns into a rich-get-richer and poor-get-poorer situation |
| 09:57.24 | chuckg | Going to add the remaining few obvious frames I missed and put out a release. |
| 09:57.31 | chuckg | Haha. |
| 09:57.44 | chuckg | I farmed up 11k gold the hard way. |
| 09:58.00 | Iceroth | do you have work? school? gf? life? |
| 09:58.05 | chuckg | Yes. |
| 09:58.06 | ravagernl | you must be using auctioneer or just fence? |
| 09:58.06 | chuckg | Yes. |
| 09:58.09 | chuckg | Andune, sure? |
| 09:58.13 | chuckg | No mods. |
| 09:58.22 | ravagernl | :o |
| 09:58.26 | chuckg | I just watch prices and see what sells well. |
| 09:58.27 | chuckg | Like .. |
| 09:58.34 | chuckg | When AQ was coming out, the pages were selling for ~1g. |
| 09:58.36 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont care if you farmed up enough to buy everyone on your server 300 mount training. What does that prove? It doesn't entitle you to anything |
| 09:58.43 | chuckg | So I farmed up ~80 over 2 hours a night before going to bed. |
| 09:58.45 | xlvii | need good dkp thing. recommend me. |
| 09:58.49 | chuckg | Sold them for at ~2g. |
| 09:58.56 | chuckg | Made ~3k before AQ was released. |
| 09:59.12 | ckknight | free market ftw |
| 09:59.19 | chuckg | Yay ck! |
| 09:59.27 | chuckg | Nightdew_, you act like it's an affront to you personally. |
| 09:59.29 | ravagernl | xlvii: google epgp :P |
| 09:59.33 | chuckg | Wow, fuck name completion. |
| 09:59.36 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 09:59.41 | chuckg | NightHawkTheSane, you act like it's an affront to you personally. |
| 09:59.43 | NightHawkTheSane | chuckg: nah. I'm just very idealistic |
| 09:59.43 | chuckg | It's not. |
| 09:59.46 | chuckg | So am I. |
| 09:59.49 | chuckg | I grew up on Berkeley. |
| 10:00.02 | chuckg | I'm a hippy free speech FUCK THE REPUBLICANS democrat. |
| 10:00.02 | Kelben | alright i maybe just a little slow with this macro system but |
| 10:00.04 | ckknight | I'm a Libertarian :-P |
| 10:00.12 | Kelben | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:00.13 | chuckg | But the free system owns. |
| 10:00.27 | Kelben | does the same thing regardless if i'm hitting ctrl or not |
| 10:00.28 | NightHawkTheSane | chuckg: so am I, except I consider myself more of a socialist than a democrat. And I loathe the free market. |
| 10:00.30 | chuckg | ravagernl, what do you think of this: |
| 10:00.44 | chuckg | Right-clicking on the frame point where you would normally move it locks it into place. |
| 10:01.10 | chuckg | Read some Ann Rand. |
| 10:01.12 | ravagernl | cool feature |
| 10:01.13 | chuckg | =D |
| 10:01.38 | chuckg | And a global lock, I need to figure out how to deal w/ the frame pushing though, it's bugging me. |
| 10:01.52 | Fisker- | Anyone know if nimbal can be contacted somehow? |
| 10:02.02 | ckknight | Ayn Rand, btw |
| 10:02.02 | Fisker- | If he's even working on buffalo anymore |
| 10:02.15 | chuckg | I just hated figuring out what the NAME of frame was so I could lock it in mobileframes then typing it out everytime.. |
| 10:02.18 | chuckg | Haha oops, yea Ayn. |
| 10:02.32 | chuckg | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:02.35 | chuckg | F' that! |
| 10:02.59 | chuckg | I love how she just dumps her economic essays into the middle of her books like no one will notice. |
| 10:03.01 | ckknight | tab completion ftw |
| 10:03.14 | ravagernl | acetab? |
| 10:03.25 | chuckg | That one whole speech by what's his face is a cut and copy of one of her essays. |
| 10:03.26 | ckknight | The band on the wrist of Dagny's naked arm gave her the most feminine of all aspects: the look of being chained. |
| 10:03.43 | chuckg | Galt's speech. |
| 10:04.09 | chuckg | I want someone to modernize it into internet super highways. |
| 10:04.40 | chuckg | ANd through in some internet cowboys William Gibson style. |
| 10:04.45 | chuckg | Throw.. |
| 10:04.46 | wobin | A is A |
| 10:04.49 | chuckg | God I can't type tonight for the life of me. |
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| 10:10.51 | ravagernl | oh and chuckg: /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(GetMouseFocus():GetName()) |
| 10:11.06 | ravagernl | maybe you can do something with that |
| 10:11.13 | chuckg | ? |
| 10:11.16 | chuckg | For what? |
| 10:11.55 | ravagernl | don't know, it might be handy for users to know which frame they want to move |
| 10:12.01 | ravagernl | lock i mean |
| 10:12.15 | chuckg | Ahh, well locking is right clicking on the element you use to move it. |
| 10:12.18 | chuckg | So there should be no confusion! |
| 10:12.56 | NightHawkTheSane | richard dean anderson is my hero |
| 10:13.08 | Fisker- | for fucks sake |
| 10:13.18 | Fisker- | someone on our server just sold spellsurge enchant for 30g |
| 10:13.38 | Fisker- | i'm still facepalmed |
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| 10:15.18 | wobin | ~seen haste |
| 10:15.56 | purl | haste is currently on #wowi-lounge (5h 41m 16s) #wowace (5h 41m 16s). Has said a total of 206 messages. Is idling for 1d 11h 1m 40s, last said: '/b/ is productive'. |
| 10:15.57 | wobin | NightHawkTheSane: RDA is -everyone's- hero |
| 10:16.05 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin: indeed. |
| 10:18.22 | Arrowmaster | i was a little disappointed that RDA didnt make an appearance on the last epsoide of SG-1 |
| 10:19.24 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
| 10:19.35 | Fisker- | asgard + carter involved |
| 10:19.44 | Fisker- | Definately a no-brainer to include him in that |
| 10:19.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I should actually watch the last couple seasons of sg-1 |
| 10:20.38 | CIA-18 | 03nargiddley * r30388 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: |
| 10:20.39 | CIA-18 | Waterfall-1.0: |
| 10:20.39 | CIA-18 | - Tweak layout of controls to prevent labels being truncated |
| 10:20.39 | CIA-18 | - Controls will now be centered in the left pane |
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| 10:21.01 | Arrowmaster | i used to have every single epsoide on my computer but one of my drives with seasons 1-8 crashed =( |
| 10:21.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: that's why I burn the episodes i download to dvd. |
| 10:21.21 | Fisker- | I had every single episode until season 9 started |
| 10:21.30 | Fisker- | I think it approached 70GB of space |
| 10:21.44 | Fisker- | so i decided to only keep the current season after i had ensured that i had watched every episode |
| 10:21.46 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know, i didnt used to have a dvd burner |
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| 10:23.16 | Arrowmaster | having every single episode of stargate, startrek, farscape, firefly, and countless other shows takes up a lot of space and by the time i got a dvd burner it would have taken forever to burn them all |
| 10:23.31 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 10:23.35 | Arrowmaster | plus i dont trust optical media for longer than 2 years |
| 10:24.15 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* All of my old cds/dvds work well enough. |
| 10:24.55 | Arrowmaster | i have cds that have started to fade |
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| 10:27.34 | Bruners | i have a cd from 97 still working as intended |
| 10:28.04 | Bruners | not burned tho :) |
| 10:28.16 | Arrowmaster | its only burned ones that fade |
| 10:28.28 | Arrowmaster | pressed ones last a hell of a lot longer |
| 10:28.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Ive got burned cds/dvds from 2000ish that still work *shrug* |
| 10:29.02 | Arrowmaster | burned ones will fade with time but how long depends on the ink and how you store them |
| 10:30.05 | Bruners | whas gold cd's better than silver ones? |
| 10:30.12 | Bruners | *was |
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| 10:31.56 | Bruners | i do remember paying about 16 dollars for each empty cd |
| 10:33.12 | xyu | I should test mine |
| 10:33.19 | xyu | i have an old music booklet of about 200 cds |
| 10:33.32 | xyu | all from back in the 2x days |
| 10:34.24 | xyu | or 4x i forget |
| 10:34.32 | wobin | hum |
| 10:34.48 | wobin | I don't seem to have all the branches in PT3 |
| 10:34.49 | Bruners | i went from 1x scsci to 4x |
| 10:35.05 | wobin | Tradeskill poisons for example |
| 10:35.14 | wobin | pt3browser bugs out =\ |
| 10:35.29 | ravagernl | omg i dont know why but my kb/s keeps increasing at 30kb's even when doing nothing |
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| 10:41.59 | wobin | =( |
| 10:42.06 | wobin | No TradeSkill.Crafted.Poisons |
| 10:47.25 | wobin | I must have a weird PT setup |
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| 10:57.47 | sbu | wtb nymbia :o |
| 10:58.03 | NightHawkTheSane | not worth it, imo. Overpriced, and he always complains. ;) |
| 10:58.21 | CIA-18 | 03nargiddley * r30389 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: |
| 10:58.21 | CIA-18 | Waterfall-1.0: |
| 10:58.21 | CIA-18 | - Added multiToggle Support |
| 10:58.21 | CIA-18 | - minor tweaks to control centering |
| 10:58.41 | sbu | hehe |
| 10:59.52 | sbu | well - i found it very annoying not to have instanceloot data for karazhan chess event, so i (manually :o) 'extracted' the data from thottbot.com - but dont know if i should commit it :o |
| 11:03.38 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 11:10.09 | sbu | well dont know how accurate the drop% is - but i guess that doesnt really matter ;o (in theory it should be same % for every item in that chest?) |
| 11:10.29 | nevcairiel | who knows if thats true.. |
| 11:11.59 | sbu | hehe yep |
| 11:12.39 | sbu | mhh, i think im going to commit - because its an easy move to revert it ;) |
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| 11:14.50 | wobin | =\ |
| 11:16.53 | NightHawkTheSane | My theory is commit it now, and if people bitch then you know you messed something up. It's a version control system for a reason, you know? :P |
| 11:17.07 | sbu | hehe yep :p |
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| 11:19.02 | vhaarr | sbu: What category did you use? |
| 11:19.52 | sbu | uhm wait... |
| 11:19.54 | sbu | *selfstab* |
| 11:20.11 | vhaarr | It should be "InstanceLoot.Karazhan.Chess Event". |
| 11:20.22 | trh | any idea why "AceModuleCore-2.0: OnInstanceInit cannot be called twice" would show up?, but only in combination with other addons? |
| 11:20.25 | vhaarr | It's already there, I think. |
| 11:20.49 | vhaarr | trh: Clearly some addon is calling OnInit twice for a module. |
| 11:21.39 | trh | vhaarr: well.. the strange thing is that if smm is alone, nothing, if vanaskos is running alone, nothing, if both run together it bugs on the users computer |
| 11:21.44 | trh | vhaarr: works fine on mine |
| 11:22.07 | Geronim0 | hi, any french around ? |
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| 11:26.19 | Adys | Yes Geronim0 |
| 11:26.26 | Adys | why? :P |
| 11:27.30 | Geronim0 | i have 2 french fixes for babble2 and don't know where to report |
| 11:28.00 | nevcairiel | forums |
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| 11:34.26 | Pyrrhus | whats the addy for the chess event loot? |
| 11:35.57 | trh | vhaarr: strange.. that error does only happen when Ace2 is loaded via embedded and not when it's activated as a standalone |
| 11:36.11 | vhaarr | trh: weird |
| 11:38.34 | trh | vhaarr: it seems like the addon to whom it happens is randomly one ace2 addon |
| 11:38.51 | vhaarr | alright, I'm not going to help you now |
| 11:39.18 | vhaarr | maybe ckknight will |
| 11:39.36 | trh | i'm just curious what might cause the problem |
| 11:39.58 | ckknight | dunno |
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| 11:45.23 | CIA-18 | 03wmrojer * r30390 10CharacterInfoStorage/CharacterInfoStorage.lua: |
| 11:45.23 | CIA-18 | CharacterInfoStorage : |
| 11:45.23 | CIA-18 | - Fixed WoW client lockup when accessing the inbox. |
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| 11:46.33 | syeren | [Ammo], are you around? |
| 11:47.16 | trh | ckknight: it happens btw. when AceModuleCore tries to register itself via AceLibrary:Register(AceModuleCore, MAJOR_VERSION, MINOR_VERSION, activate, nil, external) |
| 11:47.48 | ckknight | well, what's the error? |
| 11:47.49 | Matrix110 | btw could someone add StatLogicLib and TipHookerLib to Standalonelibaries? Think it would help the people using RatingBuster wondering why it doesnt work anymore if they arent that familiar with Libs:P |
| 11:48.23 | trh | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/8489 |
| 11:48.39 | ckknight | oh, that |
| 11:48.43 | ckknight | yea, not sure about that. |
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| 12:06.17 | CIA-18 | 03whitetooth * r30391 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 12:06.17 | CIA-18 | StatLogicLib: |
| 12:06.17 | CIA-18 | - Fixed a bug causing statTableMetatable to be nil |
| 12:17.41 | CIA-18 | 03whitetooth * r30392 10TankPoints/ (About TankPoints 2.0.txt TankPoints.lua): |
| 12:17.41 | CIA-18 | TankPoints: |
| 12:17.41 | CIA-18 | - Just a version number update |
| 12:18.40 | vhaarr | Anyone have some code to create a window with a text area in it for Lua? I suck at frame code. |
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| 12:20.20 | binder | I know this is kind of an off question, but do you guys have any idea what flasks for relentless assualt are selling for on your servers? |
| 12:20.21 | trh | vhaarr: create frame, embed a simpleHTML, set up font instances for tags, set text in the simplehtml thing, done :) |
| 12:20.39 | Pyrrhus | binder: bout 105-115 |
| 12:20.53 | lhunath | Is there a consistant method of finding the revision of an Ace addon installed? Ea. is it always in the toc file or something? |
| 12:20.59 | Pyrrhus | binder: pvp server though |
| 12:21.03 | binder | same |
| 12:21.06 | Pyrrhus | k |
| 12:21.06 | binder | us |
| 12:21.10 | Pyrrhus | yep |
| 12:21.13 | Pyrrhus | what realm? |
| 12:21.21 | binder | demon soul |
| 12:21.21 | ckknight | lhunath: /print AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):GetLibraryVersion() |
| 12:21.26 | Pyrrhus | << gorgannash here |
| 12:21.26 | ckknight | lhunath: that'd do it |
| 12:21.29 | trh | vhaarr: look at VanasKoS GUICreate.lua at the function CreateAboutFrame and updateabouttext |
| 12:21.30 | ckknight | well, for one library |
| 12:21.36 | vhaarr | trh: alright |
| 12:21.40 | ckknight | wait |
| 12:21.41 | ckknight | for an addon |
| 12:21.42 | ckknight | um |
| 12:21.46 | ckknight | for addons, it's arbitrary |
| 12:21.55 | Pyrrhus | binder: Anything else we can help you with? :) |
| 12:22.05 | ckknight | typically stored in AddonName.version |
| 12:22.19 | Pyrrhus | Wow sitting here at work.... I feel like the fat guy in the WoW south park episode lol |
| 12:22.33 | ckknight | lol |
| 12:22.35 | Pyrrhus | thats how bored I am.. |
| 12:22.44 | lhunath | ckknight: I mean outside of WoW, for a java ace updater, more specifically. |
| 12:22.52 | ckknight | oh |
| 12:22.55 | lhunath | I notice some have a Version: tag in toc |
| 12:23.04 | ckknight | don't use that |
| 12:23.04 | Pyrrhus | hey ace has like an auto updater for addons right? |
| 12:23.09 | lhunath | unreliable? |
| 12:23.13 | ckknight | yes |
| 12:23.23 | lhunath | meh, there seems to be nothing more reliable, depressing. |
| 12:23.23 | ckknight | basically, it depends on the addon, really |
| 12:23.37 | ckknight | in all my addons, you'll find a $Revision$ tag in the lua files |
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| 12:23.46 | ckknight | scour the lua files for that, get the largest number |
| 12:23.50 | ckknight | that's your current version |
| 12:24.23 | lhunath | Grid doesn't have its rev number in the lua files. How does Ace figure it out in-game? |
| 12:24.33 | Pyrrhus | guesstimating? lol |
| 12:24.35 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
| 12:24.43 | Pyrrhus | << no idea |
| 12:24.53 | ckknight | lhunath: it must be in there somewhere. |
| 12:25.17 | ckknight | question: for my youtube scam, would it be better to be age 18 or 19? |
| 12:25.24 | lhunath | only in the toc. Perhaps it feeds it to ace after querying it from the toc? |
| 12:25.32 | lhunath | Heh. |
| 12:25.35 | ckknight | or possibly even younger than that, but I don't really look younger |
| 12:27.23 | evl | ckknight: I've got a tooon of duplicate nodes dryhumping eachother now, any plans for a cleanup thing? I think it has to do with height differences in terrain and/or database sharing since we're 9-10 sharing |
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| 12:27.45 | ckknight | evl: height isn't taken into account |
| 12:28.01 | ckknight | evl: I think vhaarr made a commit to make herbs have a radius of 20 yards |
| 12:28.05 | ckknight | outside of that, I don't know |
| 12:28.20 | vhaarr | they clean themselves up automatically |
| 12:28.26 | vhaarr | when you pick a herb that is close to another node |
| 12:28.36 | vhaarr | (which is 20y now, was 8y before) |
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| 12:41.52 | ckknight | alright, here's my ideas for the youtube scam: http://ace.pastey.net/8491-2295 |
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| 12:44.35 | sbu | wtf ckknight? :o |
| 12:44.48 | ckknight | sbu: I want to do a scam |
| 12:44.51 | ckknight | and lie to the world |
| 12:44.59 | ckknight | only it won't be called lying |
| 12:45.03 | ckknight | it's "acting" |
| 12:45.29 | ckknight | so I was thinking about playing a southern hick with odd behaviors |
| 12:45.53 | ckknight | any thoughts? |
| 12:46.01 | ckknight | I'd like to know what people think about it |
| 12:46.32 | ckknight | I think with the right story line and marketing, it could be something worthwhile |
| 12:48.18 | ckknight | and, I mean, I'm reasonably funny, at least in the sense that I can write some pretty funny scripts and such |
| 12:49.10 | ckknight | I need a good, easy to remember and easy to spell name, one that isn't taken |
| 12:49.20 | ckknight | and may possibly be trademarked. |
| 12:49.28 | ckknight | err, not name |
| 12:49.30 | ckknight | handle |
| 12:49.37 | ckknight | a la lonelygirl15 |
| 12:52.13 | trh | ckknight: the problem is that, if you plan a scam publically, people can google for keywords and find out it is a scam |
| 12:52.26 | ckknight | yea |
| 12:52.31 | ckknight | I assume so |
| 12:52.48 | ckknight | I'm not making money off of it in any great fashion or anything like that |
| 12:52.56 | ckknight | so I'm not too worried |
| 12:53.12 | ckknight | and I'm not going to say that it's either real or fake |
| 12:53.16 | ckknight | just leave it up in the air |
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| 12:58.58 | trh | using portable open office is great.. you can always say you write your texts with POO |
| 12:59.10 | Industrial | :p |
| 13:00.42 | vhaarr | god, this UI stuff sucks balls |
| 13:00.54 | trh | vhaarr: true |
| 13:00.59 | vhaarr | I have a text field with the size I want it now |
| 13:01.04 | vhaarr | but making it scrollable is just ... |
| 13:01.05 | vhaarr | wtf? |
| 13:01.34 | vhaarr | I mean, if you fill it with enough text so that it goes beyond its size, the cursor just disappears |
| 13:01.47 | vhaarr | so I created a ScrollFrame and wrapped the EditBox in it |
| 13:01.51 | vhaarr | and it has no effect |
| 13:01.56 | trh | vhaarr: ya.. you have to use the scrollframe |
| 13:02.22 | vhaarr | I am, it's not giving me a scrollbar |
| 13:02.54 | trh | vhaarr: i think "ImprovedErrorFrame" has the code you need |
| 13:04.05 | vhaarr | it uses xml. |
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| 13:04.57 | trh | vhaarr: it's pretty easy to convert .xml to .lua |
| 13:05.35 | nevcairiel | i bet you could even write a converter of some sort |
| 13:05.36 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:06.15 | vhaarr | ah, hm |
| 13:07.56 | vhaarr | I had to use UIPanelScrollFrameTemplate |
| 13:08.04 | vhaarr | apparently ScrollFrame != UIPanelScrollFrameTemplate |
| 13:08.45 | vhaarr | now it gives me errors up my ass, of course |
| 13:08.49 | vhaarr | Blizzard lua, that is. |
| 13:11.37 | vhaarr | [2007/03/17 14:09:25-2636-x1]: Interface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua:250: attempt to concatenate a nil value: |
| 13:12.07 | Pyrrhus | nice :)\ |
| 13:12.16 | vhaarr | heh |
| 13:12.20 | vhaarr | it's because my frames do not have names |
| 13:12.22 | vhaarr | fucking gg |
| 13:12.56 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:13.05 | vhaarr | and now it works perfectly. |
| 13:13.15 | vhaarr | ~whalecrit blizzard |
| 13:15.58 | vhaarr | ~slap purl |
| 13:15.59 | purl | ow |
| 13:16.57 | nevcairiel | purl, whaleslap vhaarr |
| 13:17.11 | vhaarr | ~whalestab nevcairiel |
| 13:17.14 | nevcairiel | i wonder whats up with him |
| 13:17.16 | vhaarr | ~seen purl |
| 13:17.43 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (10d 19h 25m 52s) #botpark (10d 19h 25m 52s) #linuxfund (10d 19h 25m 52s) #wowi-lounge (10d 19h 25m 52s) #edev (10d 19h 25m 52s) #fossfund (10d 19h 25m 52s) #hosernet (10d 19h 25m 52s) #norganna (10d 19h 25m 52s) #creativeforum (10d 19h 25m 52s) #ud (10d 19h ... |
| 13:17.43 | nevcairiel | ~botslap |
| 13:17.44 | purl | ACTION whimpers |
| 13:17.44 | vhaarr | ~cookie |
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| 13:17.56 | vhaarr | lol |
| 13:18.07 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:18.14 | nevcairiel | ~literal whalecrit |
| 13:18.37 | vhaarr | maybe neronix came back and removed them all due to trademark concerns or something |
| 13:18.40 | vhaarr | ~seen neronix |
| 13:18.52 | purl | neronix <i=neronix@user-514c5185.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 116d 13h 39m 36s ago, saying: 'Are they made of friggin' antimatter or something? -_-'. |
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| 13:18.57 | vhaarr | guess not |
| 13:19.01 | Stephmw | or it's just lagged |
| 13:19.09 | nevcairiel | it responds to seen and stuff |
| 13:19.12 | Stephmw | ~seen timriker |
| 13:19.26 | purl | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 13h 51m 43s ago, saying: 'nice soc flyers. :)'. |
| 13:19.26 | Stephmw | ... |
| 13:19.35 | Stephmw | 13s is a tad sluggish |
| 13:19.43 | nevcairiel | still it responds to that |
| 13:19.47 | nevcairiel | and not to whalecrit :P |
| 13:19.54 | nevcairiel | purl, define whalecrit |
| 13:20.03 | Stephmw | ~fishslap purl |
| 13:20.17 | vhaarr | ~antimatter |
| 13:20.21 | Stephmw | guess it just stays silent on unknowns |
| 13:20.31 | vhaarr | ~literal seen |
| 13:20.32 | purl | "seen" is "a weird thing" |
| 13:20.41 | vhaarr | ~literal adfgiaoh4t5 |
| 13:21.10 | vhaarr | ~literal botsnack |
| 13:21.10 | purl | vhaarr: :) |
| 13:21.37 | vhaarr | he's probably the worst bot I've encountered, actually |
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| 13:22.05 | Stephmw | he's just showing its age :) |
| 13:22.11 | vhaarr | heck, we wrote a irc bot in java at work that pwns his ass |
| 13:22.51 | nevcairiel | java cannot pwn anything imho |
| 13:23.01 | vhaarr | you're just ignorant |
| 13:23.07 | nevcairiel | true |
| 13:23.11 | nevcairiel | but i like it that way |
| 13:23.16 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 13:23.31 | Pyrrhus | ~seen cryect |
| 13:23.49 | purl | cryect is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 110 messages. Is idling for 5h 32m 50s, last said: 'it just has to replace all the you's with that name'. |
| 13:23.49 | nevcairiel | java is teh devel in my universe |
| 13:23.49 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 13:23.53 | yacoob | we're sorry for you to have such object-oriented universe, nevcairiel :) |
| 13:24.54 | nevcairiel | i have to work with java at work, plus i have to "learn" it at university |
| 13:25.02 | nevcairiel | so i actually can work with it .. still i dont like it at all :P |
| 13:25.14 | vhaarr | that's just because you work on crap |
| 13:25.36 | Stephmw | nevcairiel: you need to start mixing Java and C for a truly unholy experience... like I do at work :) |
| 13:25.36 | nevcairiel | could be, i didnt write that application, i just have to mantain it |
| 13:25.39 | vhaarr | you can't appreciate java until you work on enterprise, serverside applications |
| 13:26.00 | ckknight | okay, I figure I can also do an episode about DDR... |
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| 13:26.16 | ckknight | though a problem is I don't have my DDR mat anymore |
| 13:26.29 | ckknight | and I don't have a proper video camera with which to take to an arcade... |
| 13:26.34 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 13:26.47 | ckknight | so many obstacles in the pursuit of awesome |
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| 13:29.27 | snurre | wts the prices on imbued vials |
| 13:30.34 | echos | The icons to Manufac is a hawt addition |
| 13:33.29 | Fisker- | Anyone know if it's possible for an addon to combine motes for you? |
| 13:33.40 | Fisker- | i.e take all motes out of the bank which stack exceed 10 |
| 13:33.57 | Fisker- | and only take out each stack of 10 |
| 13:34.04 | Fisker- | and then assemble them for me :P |
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| 13:36.10 | Stephmw | talking of motes, is it best practice to combine them straight away, or should I keep them in their mote stacks until needed? |
| 13:36.36 | phyber | ZealotOnAStick: so, what does Voyeur do to break Fizzle Inspect? |
| 13:36.40 | Fisker- | until needed imo |
| 13:38.24 | Stephmw | ok - I asked because I can't see any recipes on thott that needs motes rather than primals |
| 13:39.23 | Fisker- | there is as far as i know |
| 13:39.30 | Fisker- | atleast i was told there is |
| 13:39.36 | trh_ | someone got the current deDE GlobalStrings.lua? |
| 13:39.57 | Fisker- | fire and earth is |
| 13:40.29 | Stephmw | hmmm, so there is |
| 13:46.17 | kovi | there are only a few recipes that need motes |
| 13:46.34 | kovi | and i cba with having lot's of mote stacks in my inv |
| 13:46.39 | kovi | since they only stack up to 10 |
| 13:46.40 | kovi | ._. |
| 13:50.19 | evl | ckknight: So I basically I can adjust Cartographer_Mining/Herbalism's IterateNearbyNotes radius? |
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| 13:56.48 | sylvanaar | ck, are you guys not using x-embeds anymore |
| 13:57.19 | vhaarr | X-Embeds was never used except for the wiki |
| 13:57.45 | sylvanaar | yeah, but its handy nonetheless |
| 13:58.24 | sylvanaar | and as close as you could get to a standard way of supplying that info |
| 13:58.51 | vhaarr | you don't have to defend anything |
| 13:59.04 | vhaarr | I'm just saying it was never used for anything besides the wiki, so your question doesn't make much sense. |
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| 14:01.41 | sylvanaar | ok, well, i'd like to see it or something else used to provide in-game accessable dependancy info |
| 14:01.51 | sylvanaar | no biggie |
| 14:03.13 | vhaarr | yes, you do that, with ACP? |
| 14:03.19 | vhaarr | noone else does, afaik |
| 14:04.04 | sylvanaar | ah ic |
| 14:04.15 | Gnarfoz | are the normal dependency fields not available? |
| 14:04.19 | trh_ | maybe wau could use it to detect if it'd be better to install !!!StandaloneLibs and delete the embedded files for faster loading |
| 14:06.15 | sylvanaar | the way it works now is just fine - if you dont supply that toc entry acp wont enable them for you |
| 14:06.53 | sylvanaar | OptionalDeps is not accessable afaik |
| 14:09.18 | vhaarr | ckknight: ping |
| 14:10.02 | Fisker- | do not want |
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| 14:16.44 | Matrix110 | sylvanaar add TipHookerLib and StatLogicLib to Standalone:P |
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| 14:17.01 | Matrix110 | if you didnt already |
| 14:19.48 | cncfanatics | ~seen JJSheets |
| 14:20.30 | purl | jjsheets is currently on #wowace (25m 55s), last said: 'night ya'll'. |
| 14:20.30 | JJSheets | right here |
| 14:22.32 | art3mis | heh what a rad bug for the inciter in shadow labs |
| 14:22.47 | art3mis | you can apply a a new curse to him after the mc |
| 14:22.54 | art3mis | even if you've already cursed him |
| 14:23.04 | cncfanatics | yo JJSheets :) |
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| 14:23.09 | kebinusan | heh art3mis thats interesting |
| 14:23.19 | JJSheets | cncfanatics, what's up? |
| 14:23.28 | cncfanatics | wondering some stuff about ur mapping code :) |
| 14:23.48 | JJSheets | ask away... but damn is that stuff complex... |
| 14:23.53 | art3mis | so are there any major differencse between flexbar2 adn bartender3? |
| 14:24.21 | art3mis | differences that enhance gameplay rather |
| 14:24.43 | cncfanatics | why do the GetStandardXXAttribs construct a table each time they're called ? |
| 14:24.55 | cncfanatics | StandardXXAttribs shld just be a table imo, no need for a get func ? |
| 14:24.57 | JJSheets | art3mis, yes, flexbar2 has buff and debuff indicators on the buttons |
| 14:25.17 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30393 10NRT/ (6 files in 2 dirs): NRT: Simple raid tracker with loot and attendance list printouts. |
| 14:25.31 | cncfanatics | art3mis, i'm also planning to include debuff & buff counters & timers as text subs soon |
| 14:26.16 | JJSheets | cncfanatics, in the case of rogue, warrior, and druid ones, they have to return the current shapeshift form and iststealthed result, otherwise a rogue that logs on in stealth will see his normal bar instead of his stealth bar. |
| 14:26.17 | art3mis | oh the buttons? |
| 14:26.25 | art3mis | err on |
| 14:26.27 | JJSheets | art3mis, yes :) |
| 14:26.38 | cncfanatics | FlexBar2:GetStandardMiscHeaderAttribs() |
| 14:26.45 | cncfanatics | JJSheets, the return value looks pretty static to me |
| 14:26.56 | JJSheets | cncfanatics, in addition, they are only ever called once per log on. |
| 14:27.13 | cncfanatics | JJSheets, still should be a real table imo, so if third party addons call them it won't construct a table each time |
| 14:27.13 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30394 10NRT/ (NRT.lua libs/): NRT: Externals. |
| 14:27.16 | cncfanatics | thats a memory hog |
| 14:27.44 | cncfanatics | just generate them onenable ? |
| 14:28.00 | JJSheets | there is no memory hog. the table would get constructed once regardless of how it's done. |
| 14:28.24 | cncfanatics | JJSheets, but if other addons call it it'll get generated multiple times |
| 14:28.37 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30395 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Print to guild, not say. |
| 14:28.50 | JJSheets | what would other addons call it for? no need if the button set up code already has. |
| 14:29.18 | cncfanatics | k k, if ur sure its ok :) |
| 14:29.49 | JJSheets | it seems odd, but that's the best way I can get FB2 to do it. |
| 14:30.04 | cncfanatics | looked very odd to me indeed :p |
| 14:30.11 | cncfanatics | either way, very nice work on that code :) |
| 14:30.27 | JJSheets | I think it's dirty and disgusting code personally. :) |
| 14:30.57 | cncfanatics | I don't like the Get functions |
| 14:31.57 | cncfanatics | one question, where is addchild called ? |
| 14:31.59 | cncfanatics | can't find it anywhere |
| 14:32.12 | JJSheets | grouping in the add button function |
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| 14:32.50 | cncfanatics | :o, so u can't set single button remaps ? |
| 14:33.22 | JJSheets | you can, you just have to set addchild yourself. |
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| 14:34.43 | JJSheets | imo it's better to create a one button group with the custom secure header you choose and set it up right than to use a global secure header for all of flexbar2 |
| 14:34.43 | JJSheets | but even then |
| 14:34.45 | JJSheets | a function to easily add a non grouped button to one of the non-group headers would be easy to make. |
| 14:35.27 | JJSheets | the problem arises that the non-grouped headers have to be set up also, and so far the code doesn't support it. it would also be a lot of duplicated code. |
| 14:35.38 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, ain't one header for all buttons enough ? |
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| 14:35.48 | cncfanatics | headers are created in the core already |
| 14:36.18 | JJSheets | what if a person wants one bar that only changes on actionbar maps, and another bar that only changes on stealth? |
| 14:36.26 | JJSheets | can't do that with one header. |
| 14:36.43 | JJSheets | at least not easily. |
| 14:37.22 | cncfanatics | well, I never used those headers extensivly |
| 14:37.24 | cncfanatics | and I hate em tbh |
| 14:37.31 | cncfanatics | will remove the header creation from the core ? |
| 14:38.06 | JJSheets | I can remove it, yes. |
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| 14:38.48 | cncfanatics | could you please ? ain't got svn access here |
| 14:38.52 | JJSheets | k |
| 14:39.25 | cncfanatics | thanks :) |
| 14:40.30 | JJSheets | I also have an addition to ButtonMapping.lua that may make the GetXXXHeaderState functions obsolete. I'll commit when I've got it working correctly. |
| 14:41.15 | cncfanatics | big cheer :) |
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| 14:42.20 | art3mis | so jj felx can auto bar shift based on shadowform vs noshadow ? |
| 14:42.34 | art3mis | flex |
| 14:42.45 | cncfanatics | hmmm, it should be, dunno if its supported though |
| 14:42.53 | cncfanatics | totaly forgot that shadowform was a stance since 2.0 |
| 14:43.00 | art3mis | cuz THAT right there would make it awesome |
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| 14:43.34 | cncfanatics | JJSheets, u thought about sf? :p |
| 14:43.43 | sbu | uhm NRT |
| 14:44.05 | art3mis | or even if you could make custom buttos for layouts for say healing damage fishing etc |
| 14:44.10 | art3mis | and it would set swap |
| 14:44.24 | JJSheets | if shadowform is an actual ShapeshiftForm then yes it can currently handle it with some fiddling. |
| 14:44.40 | cncfanatics | it is JJSheets |
| 14:44.45 | cncfanatics | tested that before with the old FB2 |
| 14:44.49 | JJSheets | k |
| 14:45.22 | sbu | vhaarr: NRT > TuiRaidTracker? :o |
| 14:45.43 | art3mis | well vhaarr has been updating it so of course it is ;P |
| 14:45.52 | sbu | hehe |
| 14:46.03 | JJSheets | cncfanatics, is it's current state properly returned by GetShapeshiftForm? |
| 14:46.09 | vhaarr | TuiRaidTracker? |
| 14:46.10 | vhaarr | what's that |
| 14:46.12 | vhaarr | sbu |
| 14:46.26 | sbu | uhm dont know, some raidtracking stuff i found on wowace/svn |
| 14:46.32 | vhaarr | NRT is custombuilt for one guild and one DKP system, it has nothing to do with other trackers. |
| 14:46.34 | sbu | but seems not that complete :o |
| 14:46.41 | art3mis | how would i check? |
| 14:46.46 | art3mis | i can log my priest |
| 14:47.23 | JJSheets | art3mis, log on, get out of shadowform, type /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(tostring(GetShapeshiftForm()) |
| 14:47.31 | JJSheets | get in shadowform type the same thing. |
| 14:47.40 | JJSheets | tell me what the results are. :) |
| 14:47.45 | cncfanatics | should be 0 out, 1 in |
| 14:47.56 | cncfanatics | if I remember well |
| 14:47.57 | JJSheets | ought to be. |
| 14:48.10 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 14:48.28 | JJSheets | cool. I'll add that in too. |
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| 14:48.38 | nevcairiel | at least thats what Bartender3 depends on for shadowform bar switching .) |
| 14:49.16 | JJSheets | nev, you only do special processing for druids in bar3, right? |
| 14:49.22 | cncfanatics | btw JJSheets, any progress on the config UI yet ? |
| 14:50.28 | cncfanatics | might start working on it too |
| 14:51.26 | JJSheets | cncfanatics, I've been pretty busy IRL recently, so I haven't really had time to start. I've been thinking about it, but I haven't even had time to look through waterfall's code. |
| 14:51.38 | art3mis | hrm doesnt display anything either way |
| 14:51.44 | cncfanatics | JJSheets, same, exams in a week -.- |
| 14:51.56 | cncfanatics | ar3mis, /dump GetShapeshiftForm(); |
| 14:51.57 | cncfanatics | do that |
| 14:52.33 | beerke | Is there a good totem mod from wowace ? |
| 14:52.50 | JJSheets | heh, I forgot a parenthesis in my code up there. probably erroring out if you did a copy and paste art3mis :) |
| 14:53.10 | art3mis | 1 in 0 out |
| 14:53.18 | JJSheets | k |
| 14:55.33 | art3mis | custom button config for action bars would be rad |
| 14:55.59 | art3mis | mazzle "had" that as a thingy in the earlier versions so you could swap yer 1-= row depending on form or what you wanted to do |
| 14:56.19 | art3mis | like "fishing" "crafting" healing dps |
| 14:56.39 | art3mis | sas does it kind of but not as nidely as i wanted |
| 14:56.55 | art3mis | since it doesnt create buttons cept as a right click off the mini map button |
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| 15:18.46 | UE|Daemona | *grin* http://wow.blupp.net/item.php?id=405274 |
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| 15:26.01 | Pyrrhus | so.. after scrolling up through chats.... |
| 15:26.23 | Pyrrhus | will adds like bongos and flex work with shadowform shapeshift? |
| 15:26.41 | UE|Daemona | bongos does, i can say firsthand ;) |
| 15:26.49 | Pyrrhus | omg... |
| 15:26.56 | Pyrrhus | that just made my priest godly! ;) |
| 15:27.00 | Pyrrhus | muaha :) |
| 15:27.32 | Pyrrhus | Yea did the Mazzlegasim on my mage and loved it but didnt do on my priest because of the bars.. |
| 15:27.46 | yacoob | why switching on shadowform? |
| 15:27.52 | Pyrrhus | diffrent spells |
| 15:27.57 | Pyrrhus | shadowform cant cast heals.. |
| 15:27.57 | yacoob | don't you cast shadow spells out of shadowform? |
| 15:28.04 | Pyrrhus | you can.. but why? |
| 15:28.16 | Pyrrhus | I mean the rare shadow word pain |
| 15:28.20 | Pyrrhus | and such yea.. |
| 15:28.28 | Pyrrhus | but if your a shadow priest you mainly dps.. in shadow form.. |
| 15:28.37 | Pyrrhus | if you have to get out of shadow its because your needed to heal |
| 15:28.37 | JJSheets | flexbar2 will support shadowform soon too. |
| 15:28.42 | yacoob | well, on a bg the split is not that obvious |
| 15:28.44 | Pyrrhus | gogo JJ ;) |
| 15:28.57 | Pyrrhus | yea im a PvE mage/priest so.. |
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| 15:29.01 | Pyrrhus | I notice it alot in PvE |
| 15:29.12 | Barbanus | someone recommended to me a mod to view the bank / bags of my characters I am not logged into to .. cant remember the name tho |
| 15:29.12 | Pyrrhus | yacoob what class are you? |
| 15:29.15 | Barbanus | anyone know of a good one? |
| 15:29.22 | Pyrrhus | Baggins? |
| 15:29.29 | Pyrrhus | not sure if it remembers stuff |
| 15:29.35 | Pyrrhus | maybe Bagnon |
| 15:29.52 | Pyrrhus | Just goto wowinterface and search the inventory addons ;) |
| 15:29.57 | Pyrrhus | sure ones there |
| 15:30.07 | Pyrrhus | gl |
| 15:30.10 | Nickenyfiken | OneView or Sanity2 |
| 15:30.26 | Pyrrhus | UE|Daemona: Im gonna give my priest a Mazzlegasim tonight :) |
| 15:30.36 | Barbanus | Yea, OneView is buggy .. I think it was Sanity |
| 15:31.04 | UE|Daemona | hu? got no problem with one view |
| 15:31.21 | Pyrrhus | I havent used either.. so :) |
| 15:31.24 | Tain | Castlevania: Symphony of the Night will be released for XBox Live Arcade this Wednesday. |
| 15:31.27 | Barbanus | Try viewing your bank / bags of a char you are not logged into |
| 15:31.34 | Barbanus | I get like 1/2 of my items show up |
| 15:31.35 | Pyrrhus | Xbox is a joke lol |
| 15:31.47 | Tain | Yes thank you for that brilliant observation, Pyrrhus. |
| 15:32.07 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 15:32.12 | Pyrrhus | im just bored and tired |
| 15:32.23 | Pyrrhus | more of a PS3 person :) |
| 15:32.37 | Barbanus | I'm more of a "I hate consoles" person |
| 15:33.47 | Pyrrhus | Barbanus: I actually agree... I play Madden 07 on PC and love it way more than ps3 lol |
| 15:33.51 | Tain | Castlevania: Symphony of the Night is one of the best action/platformer games that was ever made. It behooves everyone who has even a remote interest in games like that to try it. |
| 15:34.00 | Pyrrhus | Like the competition is elevated alot higher |
| 15:34.23 | Pyrrhus | Tain: is it FPS/RPG/Stratgy? |
| 15:34.41 | Tain | Ug Madden online is even worse than pickup groups in WoW. I will *never* play Madden online against a random opponent again. |
| 15:34.45 | Pyrrhus | sry im to lazy to google lol |
| 15:34.54 | Pyrrhus | Why always get stoomped? |
| 15:34.57 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
| 15:35.09 | Tain | I don't know, I never get to complete a game. |
| 15:35.18 | Pyrrhus | He gets beat on like a red headed step child and exits the game after the 1st quarter |
| 15:35.22 | Pyrrhus | ;) |
| 15:35.24 | Pyrrhus | j/k |
| 15:35.30 | Tain | People find their roll out of the pocket and throw bombs for four plays doesn't work and quit. |
| 15:35.33 | art3mis | charinfo works for that too |
| 15:35.38 | art3mis | shows bags bank and mailbox |
| 15:35.44 | Pyrrhus | tain you play console or pc? |
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| 15:36.02 | Pyrrhus | please say pc :) |
| 15:36.07 | Tain | Madden on the console, but I regret buying it anyway. |
| 15:36.23 | Pyrrhus | yea.. get for your PC.. the overall community is way better |
| 15:36.23 | Tain | I won't buy another Madden game as long as they keep removing features from version to version instead of improving it. |
| 15:36.34 | Pyrrhus | 07 is top shelf on PC |
| 15:36.52 | Pyrrhus | trust me I hate the console version |
| 15:36.55 | art3mis | sports game seem retarded to me |
| 15:36.59 | Tain | Last football game I played on my PC was Joe Montana Football in around '93. |
| 15:37.01 | art3mis | i cant quite place why though |
| 15:37.12 | Pyrrhus | art3mis: its because theres no point to them |
| 15:37.19 | art3mis | oh yeah! |
| 15:37.20 | Tain | Yeah, just like there's no point to any other game. |
| 15:37.25 | art3mis | Virtual Accounting 2007! |
| 15:37.28 | Tain | So they're all in the same boat. |
| 15:37.29 | Pyrrhus | art3mis: I play to break up the monotinity of farming n WoW lol |
| 15:37.48 | art3mis | its no so much there's no point as "if you wanna play football go get some friends you fat sack of crap ;P |
| 15:37.52 | Pyrrhus | Well tain.. if you actually like the game but hate retarded people grab the pc version |
| 15:38.13 | Pyrrhus | Well im only 125lbs soaking wet so... im not fat lol |
| 15:38.28 | Pyrrhus | I try putting on weight.. just doesnt seem to work yet |
| 15:38.31 | art3mis | games imo anyways, are supposed to be things you play that you can't normally do |
| 15:38.47 | Pyrrhus | art3mis: thats a great point... its why I LOVE FPS's |
| 15:38.56 | Pyrrhus | theres a spacebar in those lol |
| 15:38.58 | art3mis | hehe well you "can" do an fps |
| 15:39.04 | Pyrrhus | fuck that |
| 15:39.05 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 15:39.06 | art3mis | it's just in your best interest NOT to ;P |
| 15:39.10 | Pyrrhus | been to war dont wanna go back |
| 15:39.19 | Pyrrhus | been there done that got the tshirt |
| 15:39.33 | Pyrrhus | ill sit on my not so fat ass and play fake games all day |
| 15:39.53 | Pyrrhus | anyways.... :) |
| 15:40.11 | art3mis | skulking around yer neighborhood with a gun popping cats and people |
| 15:40.12 | Pyrrhus | Seriosuly though Tain.. PC madden online shatters console madden |
| 15:40.25 | Pyrrhus | art3mis: why the cats??? lol |
| 15:40.36 | Tain | Doesn't matter at this point, I'm not giving EA any more of my money. |
| 15:40.38 | art3mis | they're harder targets than dogs ;P |
| 15:40.55 | Pyrrhus | go for the squirrles |
| 15:40.57 | Tain | I'll wait for the new 2K game to come out later this year. I don't need current NFL rosters. |
| 15:40.57 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 15:41.06 | Pyrrhus | true that |
| 15:41.27 | Pyrrhus | Well do you remember the old sim company called... |
| 15:41.33 | Pyrrhus | Paparus so some shit |
| 15:41.42 | Pyrrhus | made Nascar Racing? |
| 15:42.05 | Pyrrhus | EA bought them out and since than the serias has gone to complete crap |
| 15:42.09 | Pyrrhus | series |
| 15:42.19 | Pyrrhus | I still play Nascar Racing 2003 season |
| 15:42.19 | JJSheets | right now I fucking hate Lua's . and : dichotomy... just spent half an hour on one of the easiest typo's I know. |
| 15:42.24 | art3mis | populas |
| 15:42.34 | Pyrrhus | <<< Not a scriptor.. :) |
| 15:42.35 | art3mis | that was a great game |
| 15:42.46 | Pyrrhus | <<< great ideas..... but cant get a clue when it comes to scripting lol |
| 15:42.51 | Pyrrhus | Pop was fantastic |
| 15:43.08 | Pyrrhus | Anyone get that Kicrosoft Flight Sim x? |
| 15:43.15 | Pyrrhus | Micro |
| 15:43.41 | Pyrrhus | lets put it this way. I built my newest system to run Crysis very very nicely... |
| 15:43.54 | Pyrrhus | Flight Sim X... brought it to its knees... 2FPS lol |
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| 15:44.24 | Pyrrhus | the games are getting so much better now a days its unreal.. |
| 15:44.38 | Pyrrhus | but truth be told... im getting bored with em... |
| 15:44.58 | art3mis | god of war 2 is out |
| 15:45.09 | art3mis | go show yer ops2 how much you still love it |
| 15:45.20 | Pyrrhus | .... ? |
| 15:45.30 | art3mis | tis a great ps2 game |
| 15:45.40 | art3mis | right up there with bloodrayne and devil may cry |
| 15:45.45 | Pyrrhus | screw that lol |
| 15:45.51 | Pyrrhus | both those games sucked hard |
| 15:46.01 | art3mis | nah they were great fun |
| 15:46.01 | Pyrrhus | dmc was ok.. |
| 15:46.10 | Pyrrhus | but nothing compared to the old school games |
| 15:46.16 | art3mis | how can you not wanna play bloodrayne |
| 15:46.26 | Pyrrhus | nah Tekken 3 was the best game of my time |
| 15:46.35 | art3mis | sexy cgi, a body quiver voice and purrs when she fed |
| 15:46.41 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 15:46.54 | yacoob | I feel old. |
| 15:47.00 | Pyrrhus | Well if I wanted all that... I would just get a virtual porn game or some shit lmao |
| 15:47.01 | art3mis | hehe i do too |
| 15:47.04 | yacoob | hearing 'old school game' together with 'Tekken 3' |
| 15:47.05 | Pyrrhus | Yacoob how so? |
| 15:47.10 | art3mis | nah br1 and 2 were fun |
| 15:47.10 | ag` | how can I make AceLocale not error if a translation does not exist? |
| 15:47.20 | art3mis | create a fake local? |
| 15:47.20 | Pyrrhus | shit Yacoob I remember pong.. |
| 15:47.42 | Pyrrhus | << true gamer for life lol |
| 15:47.55 | art3mis | sorta like an if locale != anything above do_locale(catchall) |
| 15:48.01 | yacoob | well, if any of the current games can give me the same joy and adrenaline old arcades did, they are good :D |
| 15:48.12 | art3mis | or make enUS the default? |
| 15:48.13 | Pyrrhus | agree :) |
| 15:48.24 | art3mis | monserland! |
| 15:48.27 | art3mis | monster |
| 15:48.27 | Pyrrhus | right now the last game that gave me like a big time rush.. |
| 15:48.35 | Pyrrhus | was Delta Force Black Hawk Down |
| 15:48.46 | yacoob | Pyrrhus, speaking of oldies, there's Another World 15th anniversary edition |
| 15:48.49 | Pyrrhus | that damn game was so fast paced.. specially playing on a squad :) |
| 15:48.49 | art3mis | for some reason im totally addicted to puzzle bobble and bubble bobble |
| 15:48.52 | yacoob | well made, I may say. |
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| 15:49.03 | Pyrrhus | link? lol |
| 15:49.05 | art3mis | they always end up on my psp when i format and put new things on it |
| 15:49.14 | art3mis | another world rocked |
| 15:49.18 | yacoob | Pyrrhus, got my one in the shop :) |
| 15:49.27 | Pyrrhus | DFBHD was one of the best FPS's made imo |
| 15:49.32 | art3mis | flashback was good, wasteland, |
| 15:49.44 | Pyrrhus | nah Donkey Kong was the best! |
| 15:49.45 | yacoob | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Another-World-15th-Anniversary-PC/dp/B000MMUVFK still |
| 15:49.49 | art3mis | myst online is pretty fun too |
| 15:50.04 | Pyrrhus | I hated myst |
| 15:50.06 | Pyrrhus | to slow |
| 15:50.17 | Pyrrhus | I would smoke so many ciggs playing that game |
| 15:50.27 | yacoob | 8 CD monster in times of games spanning 3-7 3.5" discs |
| 15:50.29 | art3mis | yeah or 13th hour |
| 15:50.36 | art3mis | phant was amazing though |
| 15:50.47 | art3mis | the alone in the dark series was pretty rad too |
| 15:50.49 | Pyrrhus | Yac... |
| 15:50.55 | yacoob | the story was neat, the $ they put into production was huge |
| 15:50.55 | Pyrrhus | flight sim X was 5 DVD's :) |
| 15:50.58 | art3mis | the cosnole was alright, but not as awesome as the pc games |
| 15:51.05 | Pyrrhus | 13g install folder |
| 15:51.10 | Pyrrhus | with the bare minimums |
| 15:51.28 | yacoob | Pyrrhus, well, I'm not saying 'biggest game ever', I was just referring to the distance between normal games and Phantasmagoria at those times |
| 15:51.31 | art3mis | lots of little great mood things in it though "footsteps, things runing in front of the camera and when you'd turn nothing was there |
| 15:51.40 | Pyrrhus | yea true :) |
| 15:51.55 | Pyrrhus | nah Fear was GREAT for suspense |
| 15:52.00 | art3mis | biggest game ever minsweeper Vista Edition ;P |
| 15:52.05 | Pyrrhus | #1 suspense game ive ever played |
| 15:52.07 | yacoob | there's one game that I'd like to play for the pure 'fun' purposes |
| 15:52.09 | yacoob | lemme google |
| 15:52.14 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 15:52.21 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 15:52.22 | Pyrrhus | which Yac? |
| 15:52.23 | Pyrrhus | Mine? |
| 15:52.25 | Fisker- | jack thompson is being sued |
| 15:52.26 | Fisker- | bout time |
| 15:52.29 | Pyrrhus | wooho |
| 15:52.32 | Pyrrhus | who the hell is he/ |
| 15:52.36 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 15:52.53 | art3mis | oh jinx.com has this shirt: OG Original Gamers |
| 15:52.59 | ag` | vhaarr: your localization fix does work... It errors before falling back to your "or" |
| 15:53.00 | Fisker- | faggot trying to sue companies for being a bad influence on persons |
| 15:53.13 | art3mis | has sid meiers, richard gariot and a couple of other old schoolers |
| 15:53.21 | Fisker- | "Omg this game was totally what made <insert random tragedy performed by children with guns> |
| 15:53.22 | Fisker- | " |
| 15:53.27 | Fisker- | "And i'm suing" |
| 15:53.27 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 15:53.38 | Pyrrhus | Well I think there are some games that are pushing it.. |
| 15:53.47 | art3mis | linky? |
| 15:53.48 | Pyrrhus | like grand theft.. HOWEVER.. |
| 15:53.57 | art3mis | to the newest |
| 15:53.57 | Pyrrhus | It is still the parents responsibility |
| 15:54.09 | Pyrrhus | to make sure their "kids" dont get ahold of it |
| 15:54.20 | yacoob | Pyrrhus, found it |
| 15:54.22 | yacoob | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_Darkness:_Sanity%27s_Requiem#Sanity_effects |
| 15:54.30 | art3mis | ooo yeah thats a good game |
| 15:54.32 | yacoob | game itself may be lousy |
| 15:54.48 | yacoob | but effects described... ha! |
| 15:54.49 | art3mis | Fisker-: gimme linky |
| 15:55.17 | Fisker- | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070316-take-two-sues-jack-thompson-over-nuisance-lawsuits.html |
| 15:55.23 | Pyrrhus | hehehe |
| 15:56.33 | Pyrrhus | well guys works over.. |
| 15:56.37 | Pyrrhus | time to go home woohoooo :) |
| 15:56.41 | Pyrrhus | see ya'll |
| 15:56.49 | ag` | so L["text"] or "text" doesn't work? |
| 15:57.32 | vhaarr | ag`: it should work |
| 15:57.41 | ag` | vhaarr: gives me an error |
| 15:57.48 | ag` | translation not found |
| 15:58.11 | vhaarr | ag`: L:HasTranslation("text") and L["text"] or text |
| 15:58.20 | ag` | goodie |
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| 16:00.32 | yacoob | art3mis, you played this Eternal Darkness thingy? |
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| 16:01.47 | art3mis | played it a while back when it came out |
| 16:02.03 | art3mis | ive got dvds full of old stupid yet fun games |
| 16:02.19 | art3mis | i have a pii-233 JUST for old games |
| 16:02.27 | art3mis | flashback is loaded on it right now ;P |
| 16:03.39 | art3mis | i heart my gc emu too ;P |
| 16:03.52 | art3mis | it doesnt work for evertyhing but its great old fun for what it does |
| 16:04.51 | Hjalte | Is there any way to enable C'thun warner on eg Gruul? |
| 16:05.01 | CIA-18 | 03trh * r30397 10VanasKoS/ (Locales/deDE.lua changelog.txt modules/WarnFrame.lua): VanasKoS: deDE combatlog message for crit healing fixed, added reset position for warnframe |
| 16:05.23 | art3mis | http://www.dolphin-emu.com/gameslist.php |
| 16:05.25 | art3mis | ooooo |
| 16:08.46 | CIA-18 | 03ag * r30398 10ag_UnitFrames/ (6 files): ag_UnitFrames: aUF:CreateUnit(unitid, [, auftype] [, name]) can now be used to create a unitframe of any unitid. |
| 16:08.50 | ag`_ | vhaarr: thanks, it works now |
| 16:08.58 | vhaarr | cool |
| 16:09.10 | ag`_ | but settings for units had to be reset |
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| 16:09.25 | ag`_ | so I could put stuff into a subtable and add ["*"] |
| 16:09.38 | ag`_ | I can see people crying already |
| 16:09.39 | CIA-18 | 03jjsheets * r30399 10FlexBar2/ (ButtonMapping.lua Core.lua): FlexBar2: - Removed core secure headers, added additional stance mapping options. |
| 16:12.04 | Silviu- | ag`_ all settings has been reset ? |
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| 16:12.24 | ag`_ | Silviu-: for units yes |
| 16:12.43 | Silviu- | So i have to rearange/scale again ? |
| 16:12.44 | Silviu- | Oky :) |
| 16:12.48 | ag`_ | not positions |
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| 16:13.09 | Silviu- | scale only |
| 16:13.16 | Silviu- | And dimensions |
| 16:13.33 | ag`_ | all specific settings |
| 16:13.37 | ag`_ | except position |
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| 16:16.16 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30400 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Bugfix. |
| 16:17.42 | Barbanus | Anyone able to look at this TipHooker / TankPoints error? http://ace.pastey.net/8505 |
| 16:18.06 | Silviu- | ag` u will have a lot of flames maybe because u did not say in changelog :) |
| 16:19.40 | ag` | svn is for development |
| 16:19.45 | ag` | not release quality |
| 16:19.49 | ag` | :P |
| 16:20.11 | Fisker- | So the next revsion will include a converter? |
| 16:20.17 | Fisker- | So your settings aren't lost? |
| 16:20.19 | ag` | vhaarr: what is NRT? |
| 16:20.35 | ag` | Fisker-: nope, just backup your vars |
| 16:20.43 | Fisker- | Then it doesn't matter |
| 16:20.45 | ag` | actually wow backs them up for you |
| 16:21.04 | Fisker- | THIS ISN'T THE BLEEDING EDGE YOU ARE SEEKING |
| 16:21.14 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30401 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Also send the announcements to a custom channel. |
| 16:21.19 | ag` | it is very easy to fix with copy/paste in your saved vars |
| 16:21.40 | haarm | ag, its a raid tracker |
| 16:22.29 | Barbanus | or put your SVs in your very own SVN :P |
| 16:26.06 | art3mis | jj does it have options to create custom "actionbar switch" buttons? |
| 16:27.00 | art3mis | i hate it when new revisisioons force me to re-do things |
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| 16:27.07 | art3mis | autobar keeps doing it frequently |
| 16:27.18 | art3mis | and since it doesnt hav all the food and stuff i get to re-create |
| 16:27.37 | art3mis | and then remove the auto quest tagged things to make my lag go away everytime i loot |
| 16:29.14 | Barbanus | TankPoints and RatingsBuster both require StatLogicLib and TipHooker, but neither are in the StandaloneLibs package. I have a feeling they should be .. am I wrong or right? :) |
| 16:29.32 | art3mis | wrong! |
| 16:29.34 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:29.49 | art3mis | microwaveable Easy Fries rule |
| 16:30.01 | Barbanus | ewww |
| 16:30.05 | art3mis | an order of crinkle fries in 3.5 minutes |
| 16:30.10 | art3mis | and they're crisp n stuff |
| 16:30.15 | art3mis | not gross |
| 16:31.51 | art3mis | http://imagehax.com/show.php/1362_sexybootstoostrongforya.jpg |
| 16:31.56 | art3mis | there's something to fap to ;P |
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| 16:35.14 | art3mis | qwickwy wobin to twa wat mobiwul |
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| 16:37.30 | Fisker- | wtf art3mis? |
| 16:38.50 | art3mis | batmab and robin is batmat has a speach impediment ;P |
| 16:38.58 | art3mis | err batman |
| 16:39.06 | art3mis | for both of thoer typing impediments |
| 16:39.20 | art3mis | perhaps i need to vaccuum my keyboard |
| 16:39.55 | sbu | lol damage bug? |
| 16:39.58 | Fisker- | why was his actions being logged? :o |
| 16:40.27 | art3mis | yeah o an emulator |
| 16:40.30 | art3mis | on |
| 16:40.53 | Fisker- | why would they care anyways? |
| 16:41.01 | art3mis | and because if monstrous bugs like that show up in emu land they get gm attention right away ;P |
| 16:41.15 | art3mis | they strive to make an exact mimic of the real one with a few things changed |
| 16:42.11 | art3mis | actually aside from instances that emu is about as close to blizz behavior as yer gonna find |
| 16:44.31 | xyu | Anyone here use spellbinder? is there any way to get it so that it is Character specific. Somehow it's hard for my mage to cast Holy Light Rank 3. ~_^ |
| 16:48.52 | art3mis | try harder? |
| 16:49.02 | xyu | oh he's trying |
| 16:49.19 | Saroz_ | are there any mods that modify the way the crafting window looks? sort etc. |
| 16:49.23 | xyu | i'm just running around the arena @ blazing speed atm. |
| 16:49.27 | art3mis | atsw |
| 16:49.33 | art3mis | advanced trade skill window |
| 16:49.39 | art3mis | i think its on wowi |
| 16:49.40 | Saroz_ | thx |
| 16:50.03 | art3mis | hehe an autoit pathing script would be funny for bgs |
| 16:50.23 | art3mis | runs you out and then all over like a freak randomly tab tagetting and instant casting |
| 16:51.37 | Fisker- | btw |
| 16:51.47 | Fisker- | anyone know why i have a channel called "AceCommZonexxxx"? |
| 16:51.51 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:51.58 | art3mis | old cart bug i think |
| 16:52.26 | Fisker- | it just appeared |
| 16:52.37 | art3mis | did you log in in combat? |
| 16:52.37 | Fisker- | for the first time _EVER_ |
| 16:52.50 | Fisker- | nope i was in shattrath |
| 16:52.55 | art3mis | cant remember how i got rid of mine |
| 16:53.15 | xyu | i reinstalled |
| 16:53.16 | xyu | :D |
| 16:53.18 | xyu | cart |
| 16:53.30 | art3mis | heh yeah that could work too ;) |
| 16:53.33 | xyu | it happened to me. just suddenly when i was in terrokar |
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| 16:54.38 | Fisker- | it's gonna be raeps tiem |
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| 16:55.44 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 16:55.51 | Fisker- | now i can't get general in /1 |
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| 17:13.28 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30402 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Bugfix. |
| 17:14.15 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30403 10ShutUp/ShutUp.lua: ShutUp: Bugfix. |
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| 17:15.36 | Fisker- | Is shutup a mod to make me shut up? |
| 17:16.31 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 17:16.33 | nevcairiel | you wish |
| 17:16.34 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:16.54 | vhaarr | every time I want Fisker- to shut up in #wowace |
| 17:16.56 | vhaarr | I will commit to it |
| 17:18.43 | kebinusan | Im trying to macro /use 13 cause I just want a button to use whatever my top trinket is, and it works fine but its not giving me the proper icon for whats in that slot is there any way to correct that |
| 17:19.00 | [dRaCo] | not until 2.10 |
| 17:19.01 | vhaarr | there will be in 2.1 IIRC |
| 17:19.07 | kebinusan | ah ok |
| 17:19.15 | [dRaCo] | s/2.10/2.1.0/ |
| 17:19.19 | [dRaCo] | :) |
| 17:20.33 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30404 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Cut down on the * spam. |
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| 17:31.57 | Garoun|Loupana | anyone know why AG would reset my unitframes on an update?:( |
| 17:32.24 | vhaarr | read the forums |
| 17:32.26 | vhaarr | read the changelog |
| 17:32.51 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah good point |
| 17:34.33 | Garoun|Loupana | sigh, that sucks, can't seem to catch a break this week :P |
| 17:35.49 | art3mis | wierd |
| 17:35.58 | art3mis | someone coded a new shell for the psp to mimic windows |
| 17:36.19 | art3mis | the analog controls the pointer and its got a file browser n stuff |
| 17:36.24 | trh_ | well.. why not? =) |
| 17:36.33 | art3mis | and apeparantly psp's can now run lua apps and games |
| 17:37.09 | art3mis | thanks |
| 17:37.13 | art3mis | i never noticed |
| 17:37.13 | phyber | np ;) |
| 17:37.43 | phyber | PSP is a funny thing. By default, it's a worthless piece of shit, with a custom firmware, it's one of the bestest things ever. |
| 17:37.43 | art3mis | the "vista" on psp is odd though |
| 17:37.48 | art3mis | yeah |
| 17:37.51 | art3mis | da rules |
| 17:37.54 | art3mis | plain and simple |
| 17:38.12 | art3mis | i love playing old psx games on it |
| 17:38.31 | art3mis | was playing re3 on the train the other day and this kid asked where the hell i got that for psp ;P |
| 17:39.12 | phyber | hehe |
| 17:39.27 | phyber | I've got FFVII and Suikoden on mine at the moment. |
| 17:40.05 | art3mis | just finished infected |
| 17:40.16 | art3mis | for a really pointless basic game its strangely fun |
| 17:40.45 | art3mis | i wish they had released god of war for psp |
| 17:41.04 | art3mis | but i guess size matters will suffice for now |
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| 17:48.05 | chass | hey, cool robotics and kitty-cat research: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2bPtlDwr7P4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=iPKsXTVTLqI |
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| 17:57.00 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30407 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Disable shutup if running, add an option to add a player to the last attendance track. |
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| 18:03.43 | CIA-18 | DorjeHealingBars: |
| 18:03.43 | CIA-18 | - Minor fixes before the new version. |
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| 18:06.04 | Symian | Hi - I'm writing my first add-on AFTER the whole WelcomeHome thing, and I'm doing it by pretty much copying the WelcomeHome setup and rewriting it to need. |
| 18:06.14 | Symian | I'm getting an error, though, "Unknown Symbol" |
| 18:06.41 | Symian | and this error does not seem to be specific to any line - adding new lines to the end of the file makes the affected line scroll down with that. |
| 18:06.48 | Symian | Has anyone heard of that? |
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| 18:07.30 | Zephi | are you using bugsack/buggrabber ? if you don't try it and see what it says |
| 18:07.40 | Symian | Oh, no, I have no idea what those are. |
| 18:07.53 | Jayman | ckknight: You around, sir? |
| 18:07.58 | Zephi | great help while developing ^^ |
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| 18:08.03 | Symian | Thanks! |
| 18:08.16 | Zephi | np |
| 18:09.50 | Symian | And while I'm here... Ace is amazing. Thank you all so much for making it. |
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| 18:09.58 | Symian | I made my first add on a long time ago, and it was a nightmare. |
| 18:10.06 | Symian | It really turned me off of the whole thing |
| 18:10.13 | Symian | Ace is brilliant, though. It's much easier now. |
| 18:11.45 | Jayman | So I had this idea... but wonder if someone with some web page coding skills could advise me on the what it would take. |
| 18:11.47 | [dRaCo] | a good framework helps alot... |
| 18:12.03 | [dRaCo] | jayman: shoot, I know a lil about stuff like that |
| 18:12.37 | Jayman | Familiar with Wowhead.com... im sure? |
| 18:13.33 | Jayman | What would they need to do to create a link to download herb locations into a file compatable with ckknights Cartographer |
| 18:14.06 | Jayman | just a script to parse there database, and create a new saved variables file? right? |
| 18:15.13 | Symian | In theory, yes, that is correct. |
| 18:15.32 | Symian | I mean, there is no reason I can see why that isn't possible. |
| 18:16.15 | Symian | They're already pretty much doing that, only they're making it availible via map images, not data files. |
| 18:16.30 | nymbia | isnt there something to do that in the svn? |
| 18:16.53 | nymbia | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/WoWHead-Cart-Scraper/ |
| 18:17.48 | Jayman | wow, that appears so... at first glance |
| 18:18.02 | Jayman | but im not knowledgable enough to know what to do with this |
| 18:19.09 | MoonWolf | wowhead + data mods |
| 18:19.13 | MoonWolf | heaven! |
| 18:19.52 | Symian | Ok - bugsack isn't telling me anything else. It just says "Unexpected Symbol" |
| 18:20.06 | vhaarr | Jayman: Then you're certainly not knowledgable enough to create on from scratch. |
| 18:20.06 | Symian | Has anyone heard of this error before, can anyone point me in a direction? |
| 18:20.13 | Symian | Is this a missing parenthesis? |
| 18:20.50 | Jayman | vhaarr: It would only be a request to the Wowhead developer, not something I would do myself. |
| 18:20.52 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30409 10Manufac/ (6 files): |
| 18:20.52 | CIA-18 | Manufac: |
| 18:20.52 | CIA-18 | - Added option to disable item icon display. |
| 18:23.26 | Zephi | well, it sounds like you've put in something that shouldn't be there or misplaced it, care to post the code on pastebin.com and the offending linenumber? |
| 18:24.31 | Jayman | nymbia: is this scraper something that would be implemented into wowhead's site, or something an client would use in an addon or 3rd party program? |
| 18:24.38 | Symian | Sure - give me a moment |
| 18:24.49 | Symian | er, shouldn't I use ace.pastey.net? |
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| 18:25.32 | nymbia | Jayman: i believe it spits out cartographer_herbs and _mining savedvars files |
| 18:26.10 | Jayman | nymbia: understood, but who would use it, the site or the user? |
| 18:26.21 | Zephi | Symian: it's same thing |
| 18:26.27 | Symian | http://ace.pastey.net/8509 |
| 18:26.33 | nymbia | Jayman: the user |
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| 18:27.14 | Symian | Note though that adding empty new lines to the end of the file makes the error scroll down too |
| 18:27.24 | Symian | so I don't think the error is actually on line 76 |
| 18:27.25 | Jayman | nymbia: thanks for the info, ill see if i can figure out how to use it |
| 18:29.36 | Zephi | Symian: side note, you have to different "Debug mode enabled." and "Debug mode enabled" (doesn't take care of the problem tho, I'm sure) |
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| 18:29.53 | kergoth | heh, metaclasses remind me of the new/init mechanisms i used to implement the factories in aceoo |
| 18:29.53 | Symian | Oh, I sure do. Hah, thanks. |
| 18:30.21 | Symian | No |
| 18:30.26 | Symian | Zephi, I think that IS the error. |
| 18:30.32 | Symian | Well, it might be. |
| 18:30.39 | nymbia | you'll wanna switch OnEnabled() to OnEnable(), as well |
| 18:30.48 | Symian | Oh. |
| 18:30.51 | Zephi | think ace locale would throw another error than that tho |
| 18:31.05 | Symian | Oh... might be, yeah |
| 18:31.09 | CIA-18 | 03dorje * r30410 10MSBTCooldowns/MSBTCooldowns.toc: |
| 18:31.09 | CIA-18 | MSBTCooldowns |
| 18:31.09 | CIA-18 | - Tiny bug fix |
| 18:31.14 | nymbia | yeah acelocale would tell you there's no translation |
| 18:31.57 | Symian | No, still getting the same error. |
| 18:32.04 | Symian | But thanks for those spots. |
| 18:32.07 | Symian | That's helpful. |
| 18:32.24 | Symian | I think this error is occuring as soon as the add on loads, not during execution. |
| 18:32.34 | Zephi | symian: tried commenting out the declaration of slashoptions? easy to get something wrong in there (tends to get rather messy with lots of opts) |
| 18:32.56 | Symian | Zephi: Here's the strange thing, I've commented out the WHOLE FILE |
| 18:32.59 | Symian | and it still happens |
| 18:33.10 | Symian | like, with --[[<whole file here>]] |
| 18:33.25 | Symian | Same error. Only, of course, it moves down a line or two. |
| 18:33.41 | Zephi | then the error is likely in one of your other files (toc?) |
| 18:33.50 | Zephi | can't remember having the error myself |
| 18:34.13 | nymbia | hmm |
| 18:34.18 | nymbia | what was the error again? |
| 18:34.28 | Symian | Unknown Symbol |
| 18:34.42 | Symian | http://ace.pastey.net/8510 <--- That's my TOC |
| 18:34.48 | Symian | And thanks, by the way. |
| 18:35.05 | Zephi | what about your locale-file ? |
| 18:35.15 | Symian | Sure, I'll post that too. |
| 18:35.45 | Symian | It's, heh, it's got a bit of a readme at the top. In my wildest dreams this add on will become popular. So forgive a newb add on developer that indulgence. |
| 18:36.13 | Zephi | ^^ |
| 18:36.29 | Symian | http://ace.pastey.net/8511 <---- Locale file (enUS) |
| 18:39.58 | Symian | Typos, typos. Nothing that would cause this error, though. |
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| 18:41.32 | Zephi | I'll have a look, doorbell rang |
| 18:41.41 | Symian | Thanks. |
| 18:42.20 | Kirkburn | slouken, 2.1.0: "Lua errors are no longer shown by default, but you can set the scriptErrors cvar to 1 to enable them. It is recommended that AddOn authors and testers leave this turned on so you can catch problems in your AddOns. " |
| 18:42.28 | Kirkburn | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/63167579.htm |
| 18:44.13 | JoshBorke | are you user AceLocale can handle non-string values? |
| 18:44.31 | vhaarr | it can |
| 18:44.36 | Symian | JoshBorke, that's what the tutorial said to do, and it works, too |
| 18:44.52 | Symian | "true" means "use the key as a translation", and anything else is substituted. |
| 18:45.06 | JoshBorke | did you try deleting the line and writing it again? |
| 18:45.26 | Symian | I did not - let me give that a shot. |
| 18:45.43 | JoshBorke | Kirkburn: hot |
| 18:46.38 | Symian | same error. |
| 18:47.16 | Symian | Shoot, I've been saying "Unknown Symbol" |
| 18:47.22 | Symian | the error is "Unexpected Symbol" |
| 18:47.30 | Symian | Sorry. |
| 18:48.42 | trh_ | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/84469260.htm <- uh.. wouldn't it be n! and not n^2 if every player communicates with every player? |
| 18:49.10 | Zephi | symian: when do you get the error ? when you load it or ? |
| 18:49.21 | Symian | Zephi: at UI reloading time |
| 18:49.24 | Zephi | because, I don't get the error at all when trying the code |
| 18:49.48 | Symian | It happens very early, before BugSack can function (but after !BugGrabber) |
| 18:49.49 | chuckg | Hmm, I'm having the same issue with AutoProps as another author was the other day. |
| 18:50.01 | Symian | Or at least, before BugSack can play a noise. |
| 18:50.03 | chuckg | I've got them in my config, dev.wowace just doesn't seem to recognize them. |
| 18:50.24 | Symian | huh |
| 18:50.29 | Symian | perhaps I have bad libraries? |
| 18:50.34 | Symian | Actually, I've been meaning to ask this |
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| 18:50.40 | Symian | where SHOULD I be getting the Ace2 libraries? |
| 18:50.59 | Symian | Because I went to some really dingy-looking site to get them. Like it might be a snapshot from many months ago. |
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| 18:51.15 | Zephi | that might be your problem then |
| 18:51.21 | Silviu- | http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 18:51.36 | Silviu- | http://www.wowace.com/files/Ace2/Ace2-r30384.zip |
| 18:51.52 | Zephi | usually you put the libs in your addon-folder in a dir called libs, or use them as standalones |
| 18:52.03 | Zephi | I guess your problem is outdated libraries |
| 18:52.25 | Tornhoof | trh, nah i guess he means communication in two ways |
| 18:52.36 | Hjalte | How do i unbind something in Spellbinder? |
| 18:52.51 | CIA-18 | 03chuckg * r30411 10cgCrafty/ (7 files): |
| 18:52.51 | CIA-18 | cgCrafty: intial commit |
| 18:52.51 | CIA-18 | - Adding quick search functionality to the crafting / tradeskill windows. |
| 18:52.59 | chuckg | Hey there it goes! |
| 18:53.27 | Hjalte | Meh, found out about spellbinder :) |
| 18:53.29 | Symian | No... that didn't fix it. |
| 18:53.31 | Symian | Hmmm. |
| 18:53.44 | Symian | Symbol makes me think this is some sort of UTF-8 thing or something. |
| 18:53.51 | kergoth | chuckg: moving your stuff to wowace svn? |
| 18:53.58 | Symian | But WelcomeHome worked just fine... |
| 18:54.02 | chuckg | Not moving. |
| 18:54.23 | chuckg | I like dev'ing on my own SVN, I'm just going to commit to WoWAce because people use WAU. |
| 18:54.33 | chuckg | So everytime I do a major release, I'll update there. |
| 18:54.34 | trh_ | Tornhoof: uhm.. if i send messages to a player group instead of on a shared channel, i get <player>*n instead of n |
| 18:55.02 | trh_ | Tornhoof: on if i send it to every player and every player sends it to me it'd be n² |
| 18:55.04 | Zephi | btw, the tooltip from the minimap icons (while tracking herbs etc), how to I scan it? either I'm blind or tired, because I can't find what the tooltip is called |
| 18:55.21 | Tornhoof | yeh trh, that's what he said i think |
| 18:55.24 | Tornhoof | n² |
| 18:55.48 | trh_ | Tornhoof: doesn't really matter... but it'd be great if someone would suggest in the us boards that blizzard adds a sql-database for addons |
| 18:56.01 | trh_ | Tornhoof: that'd be so great for addons that store data and help minimize memory usage |
| 18:56.16 | Tornhoof | sql db? |
| 18:56.27 | Tornhoof | omg |
| 18:56.28 | trh_ | Tornhoof: ya, a database with sql-like queries |
| 18:56.36 | Tornhoof | the overhead would be huge |
| 18:56.43 | trh_ | Tornhoof: sqlite is like 300kb |
| 18:56.56 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: PING |
| 18:57.21 | trh_ | Tornhoof: # |
| 18:57.21 | trh_ | # Small code footprint: less than 250KiB fully configured or less than 150KiB with optional features omitted. |
| 18:57.25 | trh_ | for sqlite |
| 18:57.58 | cladhaire | they don't 'add one |
| 18:57.58 | Tornhoof | would be nice for db style data, lootlink etc. yeh |
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| 18:58.01 | cladhaire | they've said that before |
| 18:58.06 | Oridan | evening |
| 18:58.11 | Oridan | ag: you there ? |
| 18:58.16 | cladhaire | not to mention, you can implement your own query language using lua. |
| 18:58.20 | trh_ | Tornhoof: ya.. and think of cartographer waypoints, shared usage of stuff and so on :) |
| 18:58.25 | trh_ | cladhaire: :( |
| 18:58.46 | cladhaire | there's no real need for it, to be honest |
| 18:58.56 | trh_ | cladhaire: ya, but i really think the performance wouldn't be that great.. not to mention the memory footprint if everything is in it |
| 18:58.57 | cladhaire | it woudl be nice, don't get me wrong |
| 18:59.02 | kergoth | chuckg: ah right, cool |
| 18:59.13 | cladhaire | trh_: you overestimate the memory usage of lua tables, when done properly |
| 18:59.14 | chuckg | Now I have to update 4 places. |
| 18:59.21 | trh_ | cladhaire: the thing is that if it'd be in addons could use it and then there may come a real usage |
| 18:59.22 | chuckg | My SVN, Ace SVN, WoWI, and Curse-Gaming. |
| 18:59.40 | chuckg | Good thing I'm a bad developer and only update once every 9th year. |
| 18:59.46 | cladhaire | addons do just fine right now |
| 18:59.51 | Tornhoof | well some in memory compression algo would be nice too, to keep unused data compressed in memory, even though you can probably do that with some nifty addon load/unload combination |
| 18:59.54 | cladhaire | and they're not going to add it =) |
| 18:59.58 | cladhaire | well, you can do that yourself too |
| 19:00.03 | cladhaire | compress yoru data, and decompress on access |
| 19:00.10 | trh_ | chuckg: i made a package.bat script that builds a version out of my svn version (deletes the .svn folders and stuff) :) |
| 19:00.18 | chuckg | REally!? |
| 19:00.21 | chuckg | Showwwwwwwww me. |
| 19:00.25 | chuckg | Does it make a changelog too? :) |
| 19:00.29 | cladhaire | you want blizzard solutions to problems we've already solved. |
| 19:00.44 | cladhaire | trh_: it shouldn't need to delete the .svn folder, just use export instead of checkout |
| 19:00.47 | chuckg | I wish you could SVN update two SVN's from one folder. |
| 19:01.11 | trh_ | cladhaire: it builds it from my ingame/dev version, so no export :) |
| 19:01.17 | cladhaire | hehe fun |
| 19:01.18 | chuckg | So I wouldn't need to have one for Ace and one where I'm actively developing. |
| 19:01.29 | chuckg | That's what I do, trh. |
| 19:01.53 | chuckg | I have my ingame/dev one that I make changes/releases from, and then I usually just zip it and spend 15 minutes removing all the .svn's from the lib folders and stuff. |
| 19:02.13 | trh_ | Tornhoof: i miss sql features like ORDER BY, multiple WHERE conditions and stuff.. would be very sweet to have that |
| 19:02.29 | trh_ | maybe someday |
| 19:02.33 | trh_ | ... a man can dream ... |
| 19:02.54 | trh_ | chuckg: ya, my script does that automatically =) |
| 19:03.05 | trh_ | chuckg: and names it after the parameter given |
| 19:03.07 | cladhaire | trh_: again, you can write a query language for that sort of stuff |
| 19:03.12 | cladhaire | without much heartache |
| 19:03.37 | trh_ | cladhaire: how does that perform without ISAM? |
| 19:03.51 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.52 | chuckg | Give? |
| 19:03.52 | chuckg | =D |
| 19:03.57 | chuckg | Don't taunt me! |
| 19:04.07 | trh_ | that package script? |
| 19:04.12 | chuckg | Absolutely. |
| 19:04.19 | trh_ | sec |
| 19:05.02 | Symian | Quick question: would including the entire Ace2 library (with all mixins standard to it) without actually USING the mixins in the addon be a bad idea? |
| 19:05.11 | Symian | I mean, is that bad form? |
| 19:05.17 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 19:05.23 | Oridan | anyone know if Sutorix (creator of CG_Fishing) goes by any other name ? |
| 19:05.25 | JoshBorke | because tehy'll load into memory |
| 19:05.35 | cladhaire | if you load them, then yes |
| 19:05.35 | Symian | Gotcha, that's what I needed to know. |
| 19:05.43 | Symian | Well, I'm doing nothing to TRY and load them |
| 19:05.47 | Symian | they aren't listed in TOC |
| 19:05.54 | Symian | they aren't refrenced in core.lua |
| 19:05.58 | nymbia | no reason to stick 'em in the zip either |
| 19:06.15 | JoshBorke | if they aren't listed in the toc then no. except to increase disk usage |
| 19:06.17 | Symian | Laziness! Laziness I say! |
| 19:06.45 | Symian | It's just that I might use them in the future. But this is, like, months away from release, so I'm probably ok for now |
| 19:06.53 | Symian | but it's not going to cause any code errors, right? Just having them there? |
| 19:07.21 | Saroz_ | Lua errors are no longer shown by default, but you can set the scriptErrors cvar to 1 to enable them. It is recommended that AddOn authors and testers leave this turned on so you can catch problems in your AddOns. |
| 19:07.21 | Saroz_ | This is implemented by code in the _ERRORMESSAGE() function, so if you already have an improved error message AddOn, this will not affect you. |
| 19:07.22 | Saroz_ | wut! |
| 19:08.17 | cladhaire | if you have an addon that uses seterrorhandler() |
| 19:08.21 | cladhaire | then you'll contineu to see errors |
| 19:08.31 | cladhaire | since the c function _ERRORMESSAGE() implements the code that hides the messages |
| 19:10.06 | CIA-18 | 03chuckg * r30412 10cgCrafty/: |
| 19:10.06 | CIA-18 | cgCrafty: |
| 19:10.06 | CIA-18 | - Added externals. |
| 19:16.06 | Oridan | vhaarr: I havent had any problems with adding BuffFrame to Jostle, no crashes, errors or funny UI glitches. |
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| 19:18.23 | Oridan | anyone here that doesnt use OneBag or a similar addon, but does use closetgnome ? |
| 19:19.17 | Oridan | ignore me, i'm being lazy |
| 19:19.29 | Symian | Huh - to all the people helping me, thanks! I have no idea what caused the error, but completely re-typing it fixed it, somehow. |
| 19:19.43 | kergoth | heh, thats 10 different types of meat that my boar can eat but kingofthejungle/pt3 doesnt know about |
| 19:19.44 | Symian | My best guess is that some UTF-8 character got in or something |
| 19:19.46 | Symian | and WoW didn't like it |
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| 19:21.38 | Oridan | kergoth: you sure they're not just marked as "dont eat" in kotj ? |
| 19:22.09 | Oridan | oh, pt3 |
| 19:22.38 | Oridan | dunno then ^^ |
| 19:23.01 | Oridan | ok i have a little quibble i could use a hand with |
| 19:23.18 | Oridan | local _G = getfenv(0) ::: whats getfenv(0) ? |
| 19:23.29 | Oridan | and where can i find docs on it ? |
| 19:23.42 | cladhaire | lua.org |
| 19:23.49 | cladhaire | it gets the global function environment |
| 19:23.57 | cladhaire | i.e. the global table. |
| 19:24.02 | Oridan | ahh great, thx |
| 19:24.05 | Oridan | :) |
| 19:24.19 | Oridan | damn me for not searching first, sry |
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| 19:26.35 | Oridan | hrm ok, OneBag doesnt seem to pick up on the global func OpenAllBags |
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| 19:28.03 | Oridan | hrm, cant find an event it fires :s |
| 19:28.36 | Jayman | nymbia: Thanks for the wowhead db scraper, it uses ruby. I got it working. |
| 19:28.36 | ckknight | Jayman: pong |
| 19:28.38 | Zephi | anyone, is there any addon that shows the skill level needed when mouseover on the minimap PIO-tooltips for herbs/mines? |
| 19:29.13 | ckknight | vhaarr: pong |
| 19:29.33 | ckknight | cladhaire: I made the multiToggle dealy |
| 19:29.41 | Jayman | ckknight: hey man. i was inquiring on a wowhead scraper, buy nymbia pointed me to it. |
| 19:30.05 | Oridan | problem is this, ClosetGnome opens your backpacks when you edit a set by calling OpenAllBags.. OneBag doesnt open when OpenAllBags is called |
| 19:30.08 | Oridan | anyone have any ideas? |
| 19:30.23 | cladhaire | ckknight: i saw your response. |
| 19:30.36 | [dRaCo] | works fine for me, oridan |
| 19:31.56 | Jayman | Zephi: Not that I have seen. |
| 19:32.02 | [dRaCo] | that is, onebag opens when I edit a cg set |
| 19:33.08 | Zephi | jayman: haven't seen one either, that's why I asked... was thinking of doing one myself, but I can't seem to scan the tooltips that comes off the minimap, can't find the name of the object anywhere, or rather what object/function to hook |
| 19:35.47 | Tornhoof | no problems here either with onebag and closetgnome |
| 19:36.30 | Symian | Ok, I've got another newb question. I'm ready to start digging in to creating a GUI for my mod - where should I begin? Is there a tutorial I should be reading, or some documentation? |
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| 19:37.18 | CIA-18 | 03saroz * r30413 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua: |
| 19:37.18 | CIA-18 | BigWigs_LoathebTactical : |
| 19:37.18 | CIA-18 | - Fix revision not being parsed correctly |
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| 19:38.44 | Saroz_ | who messed with ag_uf scaling? |
| 19:39.07 | trh_ | Symian: learning by doing and looking at how other addons do it, and of course the documentation to the widget api at wowwiki |
| 19:39.41 | Saroz_ | and aguf doesnt show party anymore |
| 19:39.42 | Saroz_ | grats |
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| 19:40.06 | trh_ | Symian: at first you don't get why you do things, but later it makes sense |
| 19:40.20 | Symian | trh_, Thanks! |
| 19:40.49 | trh_ | Symian: and avoid .xml files, they are evil... ;) |
| 19:41.23 | cladhaire | ... |
| 19:41.29 | Symian | Hah, um, that's not possible, right? |
| 19:41.35 | ckknight | Symian: sure is. |
| 19:41.36 | cladhaire | except not at all |
| 19:41.38 | Symian | I mean, the UI is implemented in XML |
| 19:41.44 | cladhaire | ther'es nothign wrong with XML |
| 19:41.45 | Oridan | [dRaCo] are you using OneBag ? |
| 19:41.45 | trh_ | Symian: CreateFrame :) |
| 19:41.50 | ckknight | that's not necessarily true |
| 19:41.55 | [dRaCo] | Oridan: yes |
| 19:41.58 | trh_ | Symian: only if you want to use virtual = true you have to use xml |
| 19:42.01 | ckknight | XML isn't bad, if it works for you, that's great |
| 19:42.02 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30414 10Manufac/ (Manufac.lua Manufac.toc): |
| 19:42.02 | CIA-18 | Manufac: |
| 19:42.02 | CIA-18 | - Use PerCharDB for Stitch cache. |
| 19:42.09 | ckknight | for me, I prefer to write it straight in lua |
| 19:42.09 | cladhaire | yes, hence why i said it. |
| 19:42.19 | cladhaire | yes, btu your preference doesn't indicate a failure in the format, or the files. |
| 19:42.25 | trh_ | xml in blizzard ui sucks because if it isn't well-formed you spent hours searching for the missing / |
| 19:42.44 | cladhaire | .. get a real editor |
| 19:42.49 | Oridan | [dRaCo]: i'll play around with a few bits then, see if i can figure out why mine isnt working. thx for the help |
| 19:42.54 | nymbia | the main advantage to lua is for things that dont necessarily need to be taking up space all the time |
| 19:42.58 | trh_ | cladhaire: and .lua code is easier.. imo |
| 19:43.03 | trh_ | cladhaire: and shorter |
| 19:43.05 | cladhaire | in your opinion. |
| 19:43.13 | nymbia | but you can do some things in xml that you cant in lua |
| 19:43.17 | cladhaire | there's nothign wrong with XML |
| 19:43.20 | Symian | Wow, clearly I have stumbled across a sore point |
| 19:43.21 | cladhaire | and some things are nicer in XML |
| 19:43.24 | nymbia | (virtual templates) |
| 19:43.32 | trh_ | nymbia: i mentioned them :) |
| 19:43.42 | cladhaire | Symian: no you haven't, I just absolutely detest peopel expressing their opinions as fact, especially when there's nothign to back it up. |
| 19:44.00 | rophy | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 19:44.33 | purl | sylvanaar is currently on #wowace (2d 7h 14m 49s). Has said a total of 86 messages. Is idling for 5h 37m 41s, last said: 'OptionalDeps is not accessable afaik'. |
| 19:44.33 | Symian | Ah. |
| 19:44.33 | trh_ | cladhaire: i didnt meant it serious, but for beginners i think .lua is alot easier, esp. when they don't have experience in .xml |
| 19:44.33 | cladhaire | and there's no reason for you to avoid XML, unless you yourself form an opinion that indicates that |
| 19:44.51 | Symian | trh_, I've used xml quite a lot, just not with WoW. |
| 19:44.55 | cladhaire | trh_: You didn't know he had no experience in XML.. Sending someone down a path due to your preference is a dangerous subject. |
| 19:44.55 | Symian | But thanks. |
| 19:44.57 | ckknight | the best thing about lua compared to xml, for me, is that you can create frames on the fly instead of all ahead of time |
| 19:45.08 | cladhaire | ckknight: aye, thats very nice |
| 19:45.12 | cladhaire | but virtual frames are butter in xml |
| 19:45.25 | ckknight | your mom is butter... |
| 19:45.27 | ckknight | burn! |
| 19:45.29 | cladhaire | =) |
| 19:45.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:45.39 | ckknight | alright, I'm gonna play some WoW |
| 19:45.40 | rophy | anyone know if there are documentations about the overall framework of Prat? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Prat doesn't say much |
| 19:45.45 | ckknight | I'll get your passingValue done eventually |
| 19:46.39 | Saroz_ | ag`, ping |
| 19:46.47 | trh_ | cladhaire: but creating multiple elements like buttons in a list or something are alot nicer to make in a .lua for loop instead of using c&p in .xml, also its better maintanable |
| 19:46.52 | ckknight | and by eventually, I mean sometime this weekend hopefully |
| 19:47.02 | cladhaire | trh_: Okay, now i know you're talkign bullsjhit. |
| 19:47.05 | cladhaire | learn to use xml virutal frames |
| 19:47.09 | cladhaire | then come back to the conversation |
| 19:47.37 | cladhaire | its not one or the other |
| 19:47.45 | cladhaire | and XML definitely helps anytime you have multiple similar frames |
| 19:47.45 | cladhaire | period. |
| 19:47.46 | trh_ | cladhaire: even then you have to write <Button id="##" stuff stuff stuff></Button>, wherearas its easier in lua with 3 lines of code |
| 19:47.52 | cladhaire | jesus christ |
| 19:48.04 | cladhaire | its not black and white. |
| 19:48.15 | cladhaire | its absolutely easier if the templates are in xml and the frames are created synamically in lua |
| 19:48.18 | cladhaire | not opinion, thats fact. |
| 19:48.42 | trh_ | cladhaire: true, but if .lua would support creating virtual frames .xml is obsolete... my opinion |
| 19:48.51 | cladhaire | but it doesn't |
| 19:48.53 | cladhaire | and XML is well formed |
| 19:48.55 | cladhaire | and well documented. |
| 19:49.07 | cladhaire | no reason for it to go anywhere |
| 19:49.17 | cladhaire | stop pushing your opinion, and give peopel valid information |
| 19:49.27 | cladhaire | in _my_ opinion, of course =) |
| 19:49.30 | trh_ | cladhaire: please read the xml is evil line again and notice the ;) |
| 19:49.37 | cladhaire | I caught it |
| 19:49.39 | cladhaire | the first time. |
| 19:49.42 | cladhaire | you were talking to a beginner |
| 19:49.49 | cladhaire | you have more influence than you'd think. |
| 19:49.58 | trh_ | cladhaire: even a beginner gets a ";)" as a it's meant ironically |
| 19:50.09 | cladhaire | its still a bullshit directive |
| 19:50.13 | cladhaire | and i'm sorry, it just bothers me =) |
| 19:50.19 | cladhaire | feel free to ignore me |
| 19:50.22 | rophy | trh_: I didn't get that :p |
| 19:50.26 | cladhaire | but i'll feel free to be abitch abotu stuff like that =) |
| 19:50.28 | trh_ | rophy: newb :P |
| 19:50.37 | cladhaire | its the #1 thing that bother me |
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| 19:51.08 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 19:51.09 | trh_ | cladhaire: no problem with any discussion as long as it doesn't begin to be throwing of curse-words |
| 19:51.23 | cladhaire | I didn't, tho I typically curse a lot in text |
| 19:51.30 | cladhaire | cause my brain says them, and i forget to filter |
| 19:51.33 | Symian | Ok, well, let's get back to the topic at hand: helping a newbie. IE, me. :-D |
| 19:51.44 | Symian | Let's assume I enjoy XML |
| 19:51.53 | cladhaire | heh k |
| 19:51.57 | Symian | Is there a tutorial I can read, because the documentation is making me cross-eyed. |
| 19:52.14 | cladhaire | sure |
| 19:52.16 | cladhaire | ~fara |
| 19:52.19 | purl | rumour has it, fara is http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ |
| 19:52.19 | Zephi | I'd suggest http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface |
| 19:52.21 | trh_ | cladhaire: you need a profanity filter for irc.. hehe ;) |
| 19:52.34 | cladhaire | the link purl just dopped is a nice introduction to XML |
| 19:52.41 | cladhaire | and Zephi's link is the widget API and reference |
| 19:52.57 | Symian | Ok - cool, thanks |
| 19:53.07 | cladhaire | the tutorial is still somewhat old |
| 19:53.10 | cladhaire | but still good |
| 19:53.19 | trh_ | and converting .xml ideas to .lua is pretty simple, everytime a <Frame <Button or something starts you use CreateFrame |
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| 19:53.20 | cladhaire | you can also browse the schma if you unpack the wow interface data |
| 19:53.24 | cladhaire | Ui.xsd |
| 19:53.40 | trh_ | and attributes are set by functions rather than by the xml blah="blub" stuff |
| 19:53.43 | Symian | Yes, I'd heard that, cool. |
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| 19:55.55 | Tornhoof | with some xml capable editor (syntax highlighting etc.) i think the xml frames are fairly easy to edit, maybe not that abstract than doing it in lua |
| 19:56.01 | Zephi | while we have so many wise ppl actualy at the keyboard, how do I scan the tooltips from the minmap pois of herbs/mines? can't seem to find what tooltip they popup in >_< |
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| 19:56.47 | sylvanaar | rophy pong |
| 19:57.02 | sag_ich_nicht | hi, I have a problem with otweaks not saving the settings it should be saving. :/ I can see them being written to Config.wtf, but WoW doesn't "obey" that. as soon as I login it reverts to the defaults(re-applying the settings with /otweaks makes them work[for that session] tho, so it's not with the settings themself but only the saving.]). |
| 19:57.49 | Funkeh` | why has my aguf frames shrunk O_o |
| 19:57.58 | cladhaire | Tornhoof: I think you may be able to get them as children of the minimap, but not sure |
| 19:58.02 | trh_ | Funkeh`: maybe they are scared? :) |
| 19:58.12 | rophy | hey sylvanaar, is there any documentation for the Prat framework? I think it's pretty cool and I'm interested in doing something similar in SimpleCombatLog. |
| 19:58.18 | Funkeh` | trh_ they will be when im through with them |
| 19:58.41 | trh_ | Funkeh`: hehe... >:] |
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| 19:59.18 | Tornhoof | clad, that was zephis question ;) |
| 19:59.21 | Zephi | clad: that's an idea I didn't think of, gonna have a looksie, thanks ^^ |
| 19:59.22 | cladhaire | oh |
| 19:59.22 | cladhaire | heh |
| 20:00.48 | Funkeh` | anyone elses 'shrunk' ? |
| 20:01.23 | sylvanaar | ropy: not that much docuemntation really, there are alot of comments int Prat.lua though, and i'd be happy to answer any specific questions. I just write code better than i do documentation |
| 20:02.21 | nymbia | Funkeh`: lemme update and see |
| 20:02.27 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5271.0;topicseen |
| 20:02.32 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 20:02.40 | sag_ich_nicht | haste: I just checked with only otweaks loaded and nothing else and i'm getting an error :/ |
| 20:03.12 | haste | and the error is :) ? |
| 20:03.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ror: Cannot find a library instance of AceAddon-2.0. |
| 20:03.16 | sag_ich_nicht | File: Interface\AddOns\oTweaks\moredots.lua |
| 20:03.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Line: 134 |
| 20:03.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Count: 1 |
| 20:03.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ...erface\AddOns\oTweaks\libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:421: in function `AceLibrary' |
| 20:03.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Interface\AddOns\oTweaks\moredots.lua:134: in main chunk |
| 20:03.34 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm it cut off the first 3 letters :P |
| 20:04.06 | nymbia | you might wanna load ace2 ;) |
| 20:04.08 | haste | just copy AceAddon-2.0 from some other ace2 addon |
| 20:04.25 | trh_ | you gotta load it in the .toc and restart the wow client |
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| 20:04.39 | haste | it was added when the SVN was under heavy pressure, so no wonder if the zips didn't include all externals |
| 20:05.08 | trh_ | haste: your nick speaks for itself ;) |
| 20:05.23 | sag_ich_nicht | I realize that nymbia, the thing is if i load with Ace2 the problem I pointed out above comes up ;P |
| 20:05.39 | sag_ich_nicht | and otweaks isn't saving the settings >< |
| 20:06.01 | haste | oTweaks doesn't do the saving, it just changes the CVar's in your Config.wtf |
| 20:06.17 | sylvanaar | rophy: what prat does is keep the chat line separated in to segment, it then captures it and prevents it from being AddMessage'd. Next It fires an ace event with a reference to segmented chat line. Modulues can operate on the existing segments or add new ones. Then the chat line is rendered by prat and added to the chat frame. |
| 20:06.29 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i figured that, thing is WoW doesn't seem to parse these changes |
| 20:07.24 | haste | It saves them here at least :) |
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| 20:09.24 | rophy | sylvanaar: yeah I think I know the overal structure, was just wondering if there is any documentation about the custom events and the msg table fields so I can save myself some time. I guess I'll just continue on digging the codes :) |
| 20:09.48 | Funkeh` | wa da fuck, i matched my scale and size of frames and oen is smaller then the other |
| 20:09.48 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah the saving happens for me too(i checked Config.wtf) but it doesn't do anything, if i check with /otweaks combatlog it's at the defaults, even tho the values in Config.wtf are at the ones I set with otweaks(even if i exit WOW) |
| 20:11.10 | haste | it shows up as the changed onces here |
| 20:12.23 | sag_ich_nicht | re-setting them works, they then stick at the value i give it.... until i relog. i tried it out with tabselecting in hellfire ramparts to check if it's only a display error :/ |
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| 20:13.04 | OverloadUT | Okay, so I just got my hunter to level 10. Any suggestions for useful hunter mods? Perhaps something to make pet management easy and maybe something to tell me where I can go to get new abilities to train? |
| 20:13.39 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe a change at some point in Ace2 causing it(latest Ace2 here, which probably isn't what otweaks was coded at ;))? >< |
| 20:14.27 | haste | thing is that, oTweaks doesn't change the settings itself |
| 20:14.43 | haste | it just changes them, and let's the WoW client handle the rest |
| 20:15.03 | CIA-18 | 03laotseu * r30415 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua): |
| 20:15.03 | CIA-18 | AllPlayed: |
| 20:15.03 | CIA-18 | -- Add option to ignore other characters. The "ignore list" is profile based so that gamers that share an account and ignore each other's characters. |
| 20:15.09 | Zephi | cladhaire: was a good idea about checking the children of the frame, found cartographers pois, but nothing for herbs/mines =/ |
| 20:15.18 | cladhaire | heh =/ |
| 20:16.00 | sag_ich_nicht | haste I know, but that doesn't change that it's happening, any idea on what might be causing this? :( |
| 20:16.05 | ckknight | Zephi: check the regions as well? |
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| 20:16.31 | Zephi | ckknight: I did a recursive function traversing all children of the minimap |
| 20:16.43 | ckknight | but did you check regions? |
| 20:16.48 | haste | Nope |
| 20:17.23 | Zephi | don't think so, how would I go about checking them? |
| 20:17.32 | ckknight | :GetRegions() |
| 20:17.36 | ckknight | like :GetChildren() |
| 20:17.43 | Zephi | ah, yes, will add that |
| 20:18.10 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm this is probably too much to ask, but could you make it so otweaks saves the settings to its SavedVariables file and re-executes the variable change function on load with the variables saved? |
| 20:18.13 | yacoob | :DontGetChildren. |
| 20:18.41 | haste | not in a near future at least |
| 20:18.56 | haste | I have enough of my TODO list :) |
| 20:19.24 | ag` | ckknight: lets say you have the defaults in AceDB { ["*"] = {apple = 4, pear = 5 }, ["basket"] = {apple = 3}, will addon.db.profile.basket.pear == 5? |
| 20:19.30 | yacoob | but if you do, remember to install signal handlers to reap them 8) |
| 20:19.38 | ckknight | no |
| 20:19.43 | ckknight | ag`: no |
| 20:19.43 | Tuller | Tekkub: you want me to make Ludwig stringify the sellvalues, correct? :) |
| 20:19.55 | Funkeh` | ag`: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5272.0 is applying for me also |
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| 20:20.11 | Funkeh` | ag`: no change is settings, just update |
| 20:20.53 | sag_ich_nicht | haste: just add it at the very very bottom so you may remember it at some point, i'll just have to look for a macro addon that re-parses all the settings for me on load until then(anyone have any suggestions for that? :P). :/ |
| 20:21.58 | ag` | ckknight: any way to do so you would only need to have differences in the saved ways instead of having the full table for each entry, like in my last example |
| 20:22.15 | ckknight | err, sorry |
| 20:22.29 | ag` | I write crap |
| 20:22.35 | ckknight | it's not that sophisticated |
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| 20:23.29 | ag` | vharr just didn't like I needed that many entries in my defaults |
| 20:23.37 | ag` | so he wanted me to ask |
| 20:24.00 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30416 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Malchezaar: frFR update |
| 20:24.27 | ag` | Funkeh`: check if your aufdb.subgroups.party.exists is true or false |
| 20:24.35 | ag` | look in your wtf |
| 20:24.39 | Saroz_ | ag`, all ag_uf settings reset? |
| 20:24.44 | Saroz_ | and can't bring up the party anymore |
| 20:25.08 | Sparhawke | yea it appears it was reset |
| 20:25.21 | ag` | not sure why people have trouble bringing up the party |
| 20:25.33 | ag` | works for me and vharr too, he says |
| 20:25.53 | ag` | do /rl and pastey me your savedvars |
| 20:25.57 | ag` | please |
| 20:26.23 | Saroz_ | tried to toggle the setting, nothing |
| 20:26.24 | Saroz_ | but sure |
| 20:26.48 | kergoth | Oridan: you're right, i'm a dumbass. meat - raw was flagged not eat in kotj, no doubt so it can be used for cooking instead.. i find it quite amusing that it protects against my pet eating food i might cook, yet it doesnt protect when the food is a quest item.. that fish you get from collecting the shellfish in desolace, that was a pain to get, i accidentally fed my boar :( |
| 20:27.47 | ckknight | ooh, dang |
| 20:28.27 | haste | sag_ich_nicht: I planned on adding it. It's the only item on the TODO list for that mod |
| 20:29.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ty :) |
| 20:29.15 | haste | the add-on still works also, so it won't get a new feature until the add-ons that don't work are fixed |
| 20:30.20 | Funkeh` | ag`: i cannot find that |
| 20:30.33 | Sparhawke | you want me to past my savedvars ag? |
| 20:30.34 | ag` | Funkeh`: can't find your saved vars in wtf? |
| 20:30.47 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30417 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: |
| 20:30.47 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 20:30.47 | CIA-18 | - Sunken Temple -> Temple of Atal'Hakkar. (bout time Funkeh` ;) |
| 20:30.56 | ag` | Sparhawke: you have problems too? if so, do /rl so your vars are saved, and link me to your pastey |
| 20:31.11 | Funkeh` | ag`: aufdb.subgroups.party.exists |
| 20:31.22 | ilifin | nymbia ! |
| 20:31.32 | ilifin | wonderful .p |
| 20:31.36 | ag` | Funkeh`: look in your wtf folder |
| 20:31.38 | ilifin | now add blackrock spire too <_< |
| 20:31.45 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 20:31.46 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 20:32.05 | Funkeh` | ag`: im saying its not in my savedvars |
| 20:32.10 | Funkeh` | ag`: at all |
| 20:32.27 | ag` | you have no savedvars file named ag_unitframes.lua? |
| 20:32.27 | nymbia | hmm mine exploded too |
| 20:32.35 | Sparhawke | I dont have a pastey |
| 20:33.06 | Oridan | kergoth: lol yep i found that out too :P |
| 20:33.14 | Sparhawke | err |
| 20:33.18 | Sparhawke | here's mine |
| 20:33.28 | Sparhawke | http://ace.pastey.net/8514 |
| 20:33.39 | Funkeh` | ag`: lol, ofc i do |
| 20:33.42 | Sparhawke | im also getting no buffs in my target frame |
| 20:33.53 | Funkeh` | ag`: what exactly in it is it your looking for |
| 20:34.38 | Funkeh` | nymbia: i knew that i just cba :P |
| 20:35.28 | nymbia | ag`: all my savedvars are proper and unchanged but the settings in them arent applying to the frames properly even when i change profiles back and forth |
| 20:39.50 | kergoth | is it expected that a multishot at a mob doesnt hit its totems? |
| 20:40.01 | nevcairiel | yea |
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| 20:41.37 | kergoth | hrmph |
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| 20:51.37 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30418 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (7 files in 7 dirs): |
| 20:51.37 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 20:51.37 | CIA-18 | - Regenerate mini-embeds, they were getting a little messy. (make sure to populate new or deleted sets in them) |
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| 20:55.57 | Stephmw | opinion... for a fire-dmg-happy mage... scryers or aldors? does it make a big difference? |
| 20:56.19 | FryGuy- | i went aldor, since end-game only thing that will matter is the enchant you get |
| 20:56.40 | FryGuy- | scryer trinket is nice, but you can get heroic + sha'tar one pretty easy, and is equally as good |
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| 21:03.25 | Stephmw | FryGuy-: thanks |
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| 21:18.32 | Stephmw | FryGuy-: talking about the inscriptions of discipline, right? |
| 21:30.46 | FryGuy- | yes |
| 21:31.01 | FryGuy- | i mean, it really sucks when you're like.. damn that scryer trinket looks nice |
| 21:31.09 | FryGuy- | but i've got 2 good trinkets now :p |
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| 21:41.25 | Symian | Hello again. I'm still learning LUA and I'm reading the 5.0 manual frequently, but I was wondering if someone could quickly remind me what the following thing means: |
| 21:41.31 | Symian | "This is a string" .. num |
| 21:41.53 | Symian | In other words, what does .. mean? Is it concatenate? |
| 21:42.39 | Symian | Ah - just found it, LUA manual section 2.5.4 - concatenation. |
| 21:42.43 | Symian | Thanks anyway. |
| 21:42.59 | Symian | Isn't it funny how asking on IRC suddenly makes you search better? |
| 21:43.03 | CIA-18 | 03trh * r30419 10VanasKoS/ (5 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: fixes a problem not notifying audiovisually on newly added kos-targets |
| 21:48.37 | Stephmw | bouncing stuff off of other people's brains does that too :) |
| 21:49.26 | trh | apropos strings.. is there a difference between "" and ''? |
| 21:49.37 | trh | i think "" get parsed and '' not, or? |
| 21:49.43 | ckknight | no difference |
| 21:49.49 | ilifin | is there any mod out there that shows cooldowns for any stance as awarrior with candybars or something? |
| 21:49.51 | trh | ok :) |
| 21:50.02 | NightHawkTheSane | The difference is what you have to escape, but that's it, I think |
| 21:50.14 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: i was aware of that one :) |
| 21:50.54 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: in php variables in '' didn't get parsed and replaced, so i thought maybe lua makes a difference too :) |
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| 21:52.34 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. :) |
| 21:53.24 | NightHawkTheSane | that |
| 21:53.36 | NightHawkTheSane | that'd be weird in lua, though, as there's no variable delimiter like '$' as in perl/php |
| 21:54.11 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: ya.. only for format() |
| 21:54.20 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: and match |
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| 22:00.29 | Symian | Ok, so, I'm trying to learn to use xml for frames, and I'm a little bit stumped as to how the best way is to retrieve a frame |
| 22:00.48 | cladhaire | what do you mean retrieve? |
| 22:00.53 | Symian | Is it really to just say: local frame = getglobal("FrameFile") |
| 22:01.01 | cladhaire | not FrameFile |
| 22:01.07 | cladhaire | and you don't need a getglobal there |
| 22:01.09 | Symian | in order to call things like frame:Hide() |
| 22:01.19 | Symian | cladhaire - what's the best way, then? |
| 22:01.19 | cladhaire | local frame = FrameObjectName |
| 22:01.22 | cladhaire | that's all you need to do |
| 22:01.22 | Symian | Or a better way? |
| 22:01.22 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.35 | Symian | So, what would FrameObjectName be? |
| 22:01.45 | cladhaire | whatever you've named your frame |
| 22:01.46 | Symian | Would it be the "name" attribute to the <Frame> tag? |
| 22:01.49 | cladhaire | i.e. <Frame name="SomeName"> |
| 22:01.57 | Symian | Ok, see, that's what I thought |
| 22:02.03 | Symian | That makes much more sense |
| 22:02.12 | Symian | Thanks. |
| 22:02.48 | cladhaire | np |
| 22:03.24 | Symian | Also - is there an add-on or utility or something that can tell you when you are about to be disconnected for being AFK? |
| 22:03.42 | Symian | Would be very useful for long coding sessions while still being logged in, though I guess it doesn't take long to log in again. |
| 22:08.07 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 22:08.12 | cladhaire | i suppose a timer of sorts |
| 22:08.14 | cladhaire | but nothing i've seen |
| 22:08.41 | Symian | yeah, I thought about it, and the only way it would work is on the chat event that "You are AFK" is fired |
| 22:08.43 | Symian | and then it times |
| 22:08.52 | Symian | and stops if you are no longer AFK |
| 22:09.03 | Nargiddley | if you arent in a rested area you get the 20 sec till logout message |
| 22:09.14 | Pneu | you get a logout window yeh |
| 22:09.26 | Symian | Well, but, ideally, this should make some sort of claxon go off |
| 22:09.28 | Symian | this add-on |
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| 22:09.38 | Pneu | and code your mods for you |
| 22:09.39 | Symian | "Hey! Jiggle the mouse, man, you're about to get DCed!" |
| 22:09.40 | Pneu | and get you chicks |
| 22:09.45 | krunk- | Anyone know of a mod that will auto-stack items in your bags? |
| 22:09.51 | Symian | Well, of course. |
| 22:09.56 | Pneu | i use an addon called StackPack krunk- |
| 22:10.00 | Pneu | its on curse, not aced |
| 22:10.13 | krunk- | Pneu: thanks man |
| 22:10.37 | Pneu | the bonus is it switches itself off when you open a trade window or mail window so you can still split packs :) |
| 22:11.46 | krunk- | noice |
| 22:12.47 | Funkeh` | ag`: the self casting bar is a little buggy when casting channeled spells, if you cast a channeled spell, then recast before ti finishes, the bar will disapear |
| 22:13.52 | ag` | yeah |
| 22:15.26 | ag` | Funkeh`: still have the party visibility problem? |
| 22:15.32 | Symian | oh, ag`, are you the ag of ag_UnitFrames, et al? |
| 22:15.50 | ag` | yes |
| 22:16.04 | Symian | I found your unit frames two days ago, and they're wonderful. |
| 22:16.09 | Symian | So, um, thanks. |
| 22:16.24 | ag` | np, thanks :) |
| 22:16.31 | Funkeh` | ag`: yes i still do |
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| 22:17.14 | ag` | I am going to commit something |
| 22:17.19 | ag` | Funkeh`: test if it still happens |
| 22:17.27 | Funkeh` | ag`: i tested blizz castbar with channeled spells and it works fine so it msut be something in aguf |
| 22:17.31 | Pneu | wtb Focus Frame addon thats not a full set of UF replacements :< |
| 22:17.43 | Funkeh` | alright |
| 22:18.20 | CIA-18 | 03ag * r30420 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Defaults.lua ag_GroupClass.lua): ag_UnitFrames: attempt at fixing reported party visibility problem... Does it work? |
| 22:20.22 | Funkeh` | ag`: im in the middle of a raid so if everything breaks :D |
| 22:20.41 | ag` | oh come on that's whine :D |
| 22:22.34 | CIA-18 | 03uruloke * r30421 10MAcon/ (. Core.lua MAcon.toc libs/): |
| 22:22.34 | CIA-18 | MAcon: |
| 22:22.34 | CIA-18 | Initial commit |
| 22:23.01 | kergoth | MAcon? |
| 22:24.59 | Symian | MAybe it's BAcon? |
| 22:25.56 | CIA-18 | 03uruloke * r30422 10MAcon/libs/: |
| 22:25.56 | CIA-18 | MAcon: |
| 22:25.56 | CIA-18 | * Added externals |
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| 22:27.10 | Stephmw | Master Assist Con? |
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| 22:32.32 | Symian | OH SNAP! I can make a big blue box show up in the middle of the screen! |
| 22:32.45 | Symian | Seriously, this isn't sarcasm, I'm ecstatic. |
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| 22:33.03 | Gamefaq | hiho |
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| 22:34.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyone know an easy way to extract boss yells to a sound file? |
| 22:36.08 | Symian | microphone next to your speaker? |
| 22:36.18 | Symian | Which describes how much I know about the way WoW stores sound files... |
| 22:36.33 | Chompers | loop the output to the input? |
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| 22:36.56 | ilifin | or just.. extract them from the .mpq |
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| 22:37.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ilifin: that's the kind of answer I was looking for. But how, are there tools to do that? |
| 22:37.16 | lhunath | nighthawkthesane: winmpq |
| 22:37.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i don't imagine that's any kind of cross platform app. >< |
| 22:37.38 | lhunath | using linux? |
| 22:37.42 | NightHawkTheSane | osx |
| 22:37.47 | lhunath | ouch. |
| 22:37.48 | ilifin | there is none for os x |
| 22:37.51 | ilifin | used to be one |
| 22:37.52 | ilifin | but |
| 22:37.54 | ilifin | OS 9!!1 |
| 22:38.00 | ilifin | so unless you wanna run Classic >_> |
| 22:38.08 | nevcairiel | there was an mpq tool for osx on WoWI |
| 22:38.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't even know if i have classic installed. |
| 22:38.08 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 22:38.39 | Symian | You could get someone nice (and who knows how to do it) to extract the files for you... |
| 22:38.48 | Symian | although I don't know the licensing troubles involved. |
| 22:39.07 | ilifin | really, nev? |
| 22:39.22 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4794-MPQ2k.html |
| 22:39.23 | CIA-18 | 03ag * r30423 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: raid target icon bug fix |
| 22:39.26 | nevcairiel | try that |
| 22:39.31 | nevcairiel | i just saw it once |
| 22:39.34 | nevcairiel | no idea how good it is |
| 22:39.34 | ilifin | oo |
| 22:39.35 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: yeah, i just found that |
| 22:39.42 | CIA-18 | 03chuckg * r30424 10cgCrafty/cgCrafty.toc: |
| 22:39.42 | CIA-18 | cgCrafty: |
| 22:39.42 | CIA-18 | - TOC update, invalid characters removed. |
| 22:39.53 | ilifin | ouch commandline |
| 22:40.55 | Propp_ | damn ag reset all my settings |
| 22:40.55 | NightHawkTheSane | I'll have to play with that when I'm not in the middle of durnholde |
| 22:40.55 | nevcairiel | does someone know if there even is a working mpq tool for windows which works with the new BC mpq format? |
| 22:41.58 | Zephi | I use the plugin for total commander, it can read the BC files somewhat, but I think some files are missing when browsing through the mpqs |
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| 22:42.45 | Funkeh` | ag`: no joy |
| 22:42.54 | Zephi | nighthawk: you could check on this http://www.devklog.net/mpqkit, I dunno about it, don't run osx myself |
| 22:43.08 | Funkeh` | ag`: still no party frames |
| 22:43.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Zephi: thanks |
| 22:43.37 | Propp_ | can't make HPText fonts larger anymore??? |
| 22:43.39 | Propp_ | in ag |
| 22:44.14 | ag` | Funkeh`: can you try and reset your WTF |
| 22:44.20 | ag` | and only have aguf enabled |
| 22:44.22 | ag` | problem |
| 22:44.27 | ag` | is that it works fine for me here |
| 22:44.52 | Funkeh` | ag`: no not at the moment i need my settings |
| 22:44.52 | Zephi | nighthawk: this more specifically might be what you want http://www.devklog.net/2007/02/09/mpq-extractor-10/ |
| 22:45.16 | Funkeh` | ag`: group number doesn't seem to be working, i customized my self portrait name plate to show group number |
| 22:46.06 | Saroz_ | ag`, raid target icon isnt working either |
| 22:46.08 | Saroz_ | *sigh* |
| 22:46.13 | Saroz_ | what did you do man |
| 22:46.31 | ag` | Saroz_: it is. I just fixed raid target icon |
| 22:46.38 | Saroz_ | ah, <3 |
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| 22:48.45 | Saroz_ | ag`, still no party frames |
| 22:48.56 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30425 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: |
| 22:48.56 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 22:48.56 | CIA-18 | - Commit a few changes to data.lua in case I screw it up |
| 22:49.02 | ag` | try and reset your WTF and only have aguf running |
| 22:49.08 | Saroz_ | :( |
| 22:49.09 | Saroz_ | but but |
| 22:49.12 | ag` | I am not seeing the problem |
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| 22:49.17 | ag` | so it's very hard for me to locate |
| 22:49.21 | Saroz_ | understand |
| 22:49.29 | Saroz_ | will reset aguf saved vars |
| 22:49.32 | JoshBorke | ag`: how would i go about adding unit frames? |
| 22:50.41 | JoshBorke | to aguf :-D i want to have party targets |
| 22:50.57 | ag` | JoshBorke: aUF:CreateUnit(unitid, [, auftype] [, name]) |
| 22:51.07 | ag` | use "metro" as auftype |
| 22:51.12 | JoshBorke | thanks, that's what i needed to know :-) |
| 22:51.12 | ag` | for xtargets |
| 22:51.28 | JoshBorke | i can go look for anything else, just did'nt know where to start |
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| 22:53.24 | Saroz_ | anyone know if blizz' "Promote to Main Tank" actually has a function? |
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| 22:55.45 | Symian | I'm learning to insert backdrops, and "it" says to use the <Backdrop> tag, like so: <Backdrop bgFile="Interface\DialogFrame\UI-DialogBox-Background" edgeFile=" ... etc etc |
| 22:55.52 | Symian | Question is: Will this not work on Mac? |
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| 22:56.02 | Symian | Is there a better way to do it so that it will work on OS X? |
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| 22:56.09 | Chompers | wait....party targets? |
| 22:56.21 | Chompers | i guess they show what each party member is targeting? |
| 22:56.27 | Symian | Seeing as how directories are delimited as "/" in POSIX-compliant OSes, not "\" |
| 22:56.27 | JoshBorke | yes, they would |
| 22:56.42 | Chompers | wow, that would be a great feature to have |
| 22:57.14 | NightHawkTheSane | its rather handy, yes |
| 22:58.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Saroz_: not that i'm aware |
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| 22:59.58 | ag` | Saroz_: I'd like your help to fix the problem you're experiencing |
| 23:00.10 | Saroz_ | want me to fix it or reset it? |
| 23:00.56 | ag` | try and reset your WTF |
| 23:01.15 | ag` | not sure if you would know how to atually fix the bug yourself :) |
| 23:01.19 | Saroz_ | wont reset WTF |
| 23:01.24 | Saroz_ | will reset aguf inside WTF |
| 23:01.25 | Saroz_ | thx |
| 23:01.39 | ag` | I don't mean you to delete your svs |
| 23:01.42 | ag` | just back them up |
| 23:02.09 | Saroz_ | aUF:ResetDB() |
| 23:02.12 | Saroz_ | and reloadui |
| 23:03.40 | Saroz_ | didnt work |
| 23:03.45 | Saroz_ | want me to /dump a var? |
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| 23:07.28 | JJSheets | Ominous what server you play on? |
| 23:07.59 | ag` | Saroz_: aUF.db.profile.subgroups.party.Exists |
| 23:10.52 | nevcairiel | meh i cannot find the sound files of malchezaar in the mpq |
| 23:10.56 | nevcairiel | where would it be ? :o |
| 23:11.38 | ag` | Saroz_: any luck? |
| 23:16.22 | Saroz_ | sec plx |
| 23:17.22 | Saroz_ | ag`, true |
| 23:17.27 | Saroz_ | ah wut, works now |
| 23:17.34 | Saroz_ | after ResetDB() and a relog |
| 23:17.53 | Saroz_ | it's the hide in raid thats not working |
| 23:18.03 | Saroz_ | if you toggle it off, then it still hides the party |
| 23:18.07 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30426 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (8 files in 7 dirs): |
| 23:18.07 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 23:18.07 | CIA-18 | - Populate changes from last commit to active files |
| 23:18.07 | CIA-18 | - Fix GearSet miner to see items not on WowHead |
| 23:18.07 | CIA-18 | - Add some missing gear sets (a bit of pvp stuff and Tier 6) |
| 23:18.46 | Saroz_ | meeeh, all my vars are reset now |
| 23:18.49 | Saroz_ | gonna roll a backup :p |
| 23:19.53 | ag` | Saroz_: so you got your party back? |
| 23:19.58 | Saroz_ | yes, when not in raid |
| 23:20.01 | Saroz_ | when I convert to raid |
| 23:20.03 | Saroz_ | it goes away |
| 23:20.07 | Saroz_ | even if the setting is off |
| 23:20.22 | ag` | so hide in raid is broken? |
| 23:20.28 | Saroz_ | yes |
| 23:25.11 | CIA-18 | 03ag * r30427 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Defaults.lua ag_GroupClass.lua): ag_UnitFrames: fix hide party in raid |
| 23:25.17 | ag` | Saroz_: there |
| 23:25.30 | Sparhawke | I also cant see any debuffs on my target frame |
| 23:25.56 | ag` | check if debuff filtering is off for target? |
| 23:26.01 | Saroz_ | ye |
| 23:26.03 | Sparhawke | i checked that |
| 23:26.10 | Sparhawke | it's on |
| 23:26.17 | ag` | yes, it should be OFF |
| 23:26.21 | Sparhawke | well right |
| 23:26.27 | Sparhawke | I mean it's not being filtered |
| 23:26.35 | ag` | hm? |
| 23:27.25 | Saroz_ | no good ag` |
| 23:27.30 | Saroz_ | still not showing party in raid |
| 23:28.54 | ag` | it should |
| 23:29.00 | Saroz_ | ya |
| 23:29.01 | Saroz_ | but it isnt |
| 23:29.12 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30428 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: |
| 23:29.12 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 23:29.12 | CIA-18 | - Clear data.lua of all InstanceLoot entries except multisets. |
| 23:29.12 | CIA-18 | - Please don't split this into active files ;) |
| 23:29.27 | Saroz_ | aUF.db.profile.raidHideParty is nil |
| 23:33.12 | ag` | if that is nil it won't hide in raid |
| 23:33.12 | Aens|Superiority | Saroz_: what did you do exactly to see party when not in raid? |
| 23:36.02 | Saroz_ | LOOK |
| 23:36.07 | Saroz_ | I invite someone |
| 23:36.12 | Saroz_ | party shows up |
| 23:36.15 | Saroz_ | convert to raid |
| 23:36.17 | Saroz_ | party disappears |
| 23:36.33 | Saroz_ | no new mods |
| 23:39.06 | ag` | Saroz_: comment out line 90+91 in GroupClass.lua |
| 23:39.47 | Saroz_ | doing |
| 23:40.29 | Saroz_ | still no good |
| 23:40.50 | Saroz_ | wait |
| 23:40.53 | Saroz_ | gonna debug it else |
| 23:42.03 | ag` | Saroz_: I think it's the only place where I hide groups |
| 23:42.08 | Saroz_ | nope |
| 23:42.09 | Saroz_ | listen |
| 23:42.16 | Saroz_ | insert self.header:Show() at line 95 |
| 23:42.17 | Saroz_ | and it works |
| 23:42.31 | Saroz_ | it's cause line 93 is never fired |
| 23:42.35 | Saroz_ | the :Show() |
| 23:42.51 | ag` | why doesn't it? |
| 23:42.58 | Saroz_ | I dunno man |
| 23:43.15 | Saroz_ | the huge condition above I guess |
| 23:43.19 | Saroz_ | it hits :Hide() |
| 23:43.29 | ag` | the only way it wouldn't fire is if the condition above is true |
| 23:43.39 | Saroz_ | even if you comment out :Hide() you still need :Show() to trigger the Attributes |
| 23:44.06 | Saroz_ | aUF.db.profile.units.raid.HideFrame is true |
| 23:44.24 | Saroz_ | aUF.db.profile.units.party.HideFrame false |
| 23:44.39 | ag` | that's how it should be |
| 23:44.42 | Saroz_ | aUF.db.profile.units.raidHideParty is a huge tabel |
| 23:44.45 | Saroz_ | table* |
| 23:44.45 | sag_ich_nicht | is there any event that fires a bit after VARIABLES_LOADED? I have a problem with a script in luaslinger not working completely due to one of the addons it's calling not yet reacting when VARIABLES_LOADED is fired, so I need to let luaslinger execute the script a bit later |
| 23:44.50 | ag` | Saroz_: a table!?? |
| 23:44.53 | Saroz_ | ye |
| 23:44.59 | ag` | ah |
| 23:45.00 | ag` | nm |
| 23:45.05 | ag` | it's not in units. |
| 23:45.09 | ag` | its in profile. |
| 23:45.57 | Saroz_ | aUF.db.profile.raidHideParty is nil |
| 23:46.16 | ag` | yeah, if it's nil then party should not hide in raid |
| 23:46.25 | Saroz_ | but.. |
| 23:46.28 | Saroz_ | (self.type == "raid" and aUF.db.profile.units.raid.HideFrame == true) will trigger the Hide |
| 23:46.45 | Saroz_ | aUF.db.profile.units.raid.HideFrame is true |
| 23:46.49 | ag` | no |
| 23:46.50 | Saroz_ | yes |
| 23:47.01 | ag` | because self.type == "raid" is only for raid groups |
| 23:47.04 | Saroz_ | ah |
| 23:47.07 | ag` | self.type is == "party" |
| 23:47.09 | art3mis | so whats the slash command to configure flexbar2? |
| 23:47.22 | JJSheets | nonexistent. |
| 23:47.27 | art3mis | since wowace addons never have readmes ;P |
| 23:47.41 | Saroz_ | cant print: |
| 23:47.42 | Saroz_ | if self.database.Hidden == true |
| 23:47.42 | Saroz_ | or self.database.Exists == false |
| 23:47.44 | art3mis | how do i set them up then? |
| 23:48.35 | JJSheets | get Omnibus or something similar, grab the code I posted in the forum post on wowace.com and paste it in and run it. :) make changes. |
| 23:48.35 | ag` | Saroz_: can't print? |
| 23:48.40 | Saroz_ | well, self |
| 23:49.01 | Saroz_ | sec |
| 23:49.05 | Saroz_ | think I got it |
| 23:49.45 | Saroz_ | ye, got it |
| 23:49.54 | Saroz_ | change to aUF.db.profile.raidHideParty |
| 23:49.55 | Saroz_ | and it works |
| 23:50.02 | Saroz_ | instead of aUF.db.profile.units.raidHideParty |
| 23:50.39 | snurre- | hm, weird.. every time i start itunes it opens windows installer to install the program over again |
| 23:50.44 | snurre- | same with excel and word o.O |
| 23:50.51 | ag` | Saroz_: didn't I do that? |
| 23:50.55 | ag` | look at my latest commit |
| 23:51.31 | Saroz_ | Im on 30424 |
| 23:51.37 | Saroz_ | meh |
| 23:51.38 | ag` | 30427 |
| 23:51.39 | Saroz_ | ya |
| 23:51.47 | Saroz_ | gg waste of time :p |
| 23:51.55 | ag` | Gee Gee |
| 23:52.17 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:53.32 | ag` | <3 svn |
| 23:53.44 | JJSheets | well I'm off to get dinner... ya'll have fun |
| 23:53.52 | Saroz_ | I swear I updated |
| 23:53.54 | Saroz_ | :| |
| 23:54.01 | *** join/#wowace wobin (n=wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au) |
| 23:55.31 | ag` | well I told you I fixed it :P |
| 23:56.08 | kergoth | hehe, performancefu says my latency is 286331136ms |
