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| 00:01.10 | Ominous_ | ffs every day at midnight my internet goes |
| 00:01.33 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30128 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps: fix Gruul's Lair |
| 00:02.24 | Funkeh` | maps seem all ok |
| 00:07.47 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30129 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: fix gruul's lair notes |
| 00:08.36 | Ominous_ | nn all |
| 00:08.47 | JJSheets | adios |
| 00:12.53 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30130 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: add Blood Guard Porung |
| 00:13.54 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30131 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: |
| 00:13.54 | CIA-18 | Cartographer: InstanceNotes: |
| 00:13.54 | CIA-18 | - added Blood Guard Porung, heroic mode only boss |
| 00:15.05 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.new#new |
| 00:15.11 | Industrial | i needa get to bed |
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| 00:23.10 | Daemona | hey Funkeh` who the heck is Porung? |
| 00:23.25 | Funkeh` | its your father |
| 00:23.38 | Funkeh` | no, your _real_ father |
| 00:24.04 | Funkeh` | hes a boss in SH unique to heroic mode |
| 00:24.14 | Daemona | kk explains it all |
| 00:24.17 | vhaarr | he is there in normal as well |
| 00:24.19 | Daemona | been there exactly ONCE |
| 00:24.19 | Funkeh` | the guy at the end of all the shooting arrows |
| 00:24.22 | vhaarr | he's just easier |
| 00:24.39 | Funkeh` | vhaarr, afaiks he runs away in normal mode |
| 00:25.02 | vhaarr | well I haven't done normal in a looong time, so I don't really know, but |
| 00:25.07 | Funkeh` | neither do i |
| 00:25.08 | vhaarr | afaik he is there |
| 00:25.09 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 00:25.12 | vhaarr | and sometimes drops greens |
| 00:25.22 | vhaarr | whatever :P |
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| 00:27.51 | nymbia | i thought he was differently named on normal |
| 00:28.54 | Funkeh` | maybe |
| 00:28.56 | Funkeh` | really |
| 00:28.59 | Funkeh` | i have 0 idea :P |
| 00:32.04 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30132 10BigWigs/Plugins/RaidWarn.lua: BigWigs: fix more debugging |
| 00:34.01 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30133 10BigWigs/Extras/Tranq.lua: BigWigs: and here |
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| 00:36.05 | art3mis | hrm okay so i hacked in the prat scrolling stuff and it doesnt give any errors |
| 00:36.35 | art3mis | downside is that it also doesnt functionright on the quest minion as appearantly i can "click through it" |
| 00:36.39 | art3mis | how do i correct that |
| 00:36.50 | art3mis | is that a strata thing? |
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| 00:37.30 | hypetech | does anybody know how to move the chat input box? |
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| 00:38.37 | OverloadUT | There are several chat mods that can do that |
| 00:38.46 | OverloadUT | I use Prat, which does a billion other things as well so might be overkill for you |
| 00:39.46 | hypetech | no no, I use prat |
| 00:39.49 | hypetech | and I like prat |
| 00:39.55 | hypetech | just can't find that particular setting lol |
| 00:40.01 | Funkeh` | make a simple bat file to delete the modules you don't want :p |
| 00:41.55 | knarf^ | Can you in a mod have it only parts of it loading depending on different things ? |
| 00:43.30 | knarf^ | that came out wrong |
| 00:43.53 | knarf^ | In a single mod, can you have only parts of the mod loading, depending on variables? |
| 00:44.11 | NeoTron | so if I'm looking to set up a guild website using phpbb-based technology, where should I look to find leet WoW plugins? item links, roster, guild bank - that sort of stuff? |
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| 00:45.41 | vhaarr | knarf^: no |
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| 00:46.31 | knarf^ | vhaarr hmm, too bad :) |
| 00:46.46 | knarf^ | Guess you need to split it out in more mods then? |
| 00:46.49 | NeoTron | there's this person who's barely in the guild who's hacking everything for the site... and it's frankly a rather sad site :P |
| 00:46.52 | knarf^ | and make it lod ? |
| 00:48.40 | hypetech | NeoTron, check out wowroster.net |
| 00:48.48 | hypetech | does anybody know how to move the chat input box with Prat? |
| 00:49.16 | NeoTron | we don't really use DKP but I would like to see us tracknig attendence and loot (and then use the ratio of attendence vs loot a sa guide for the loot council) |
| 00:50.18 | NeoTron | hypetech: a lot of that can be fetched from armory.wow now |
| 00:50.23 | Guillotine | anybody know a good ace addon to move the tooltip? LitheTooltipDoctor isn't working |
| 00:53.12 | Barbanus | anyone here use OneView? |
| 00:53.20 | hypetech | I use OneBag |
| 00:53.52 | Barbanus | but you dont use OneView? |
| 00:54.49 | Bruners | i use OneView to watch my bank |
| 00:54.54 | Bruners | but use baggins for bags |
| 00:55.26 | knarf^ | I use Baggins And Sanity |
| 00:55.29 | Barbanus | Bruners, and you can see all of your items? |
| 00:55.43 | Barbanus | cause I cant see any of my items on my other chars |
| 00:55.45 | OverloadUT | NeoTron: Roster can do more though, like an awesome categorized guild bank. It's worth installing for that alone. |
| 00:56.00 | Barbanus | like if I am on my pally .. I cant see my druids bank/bags |
| 00:56.16 | Bruners | Barbanus: it is somewhat bugged from time to time |
| 00:56.34 | Barbanus | I should nuke my SV files |
| 00:56.34 | Guillotine | ArkInventory ftw |
| 00:56.48 | Guillotine | ArkInventory lets you see other chars too |
| 00:56.55 | OverloadUT | Also, if you MUST go with phpbb (I use it and strongly recommend against it) then go here to get an awesome item link mod: http://itemstats.free.fr/news.php |
| 00:57.03 | OverloadUT | Note that itemstats.free.fr supports other forum software as well |
| 00:57.26 | Guillotine | noone knows of an ace addon to move tooltips? :( |
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| 00:58.26 | OverloadUT | Guillotine: I use TipBuddy, it's not Ace, but it doesn't need to be. |
| 00:58.54 | Guillotine | hmm. is it rather efficient? The one I was using before had about 20 dependencies that were highly inefficient |
| 00:59.47 | ZealotOnAStick | TipBuddy is ok, but I've found that I prefer TinyTip. |
| 01:00.06 | ZealotOnAStick | If Chester were still around and updating TipBuddy, maybe, but it's been getting flaky with fan maintenance. |
| 01:00.36 | OverloadUT | I've been meaning to check out TinyTip, but TipBuddy has been working great for me so far so I haven't done it yet |
| 01:01.04 | Gngsk | took me a while to get used to TinyTip coming from using TipBuddy, but I wouldn't go back now |
| 01:01.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Guillotine: if you just want to MOVE tooltips, LItheTooltipDoctor will do that |
| 01:01.26 | Chompers | ArkInventory lets you see other peoples bags? |
| 01:01.29 | Chompers | :O |
| 01:01.29 | zoktar | is there any special way to save the position of simpleminimap ? |
| 01:01.32 | Guillotine | NightHawkTheSane: Not working for me o.O |
| 01:01.40 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30134 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Use passing groups for some options. |
| 01:01.42 | Guillotine | hmm. maybe I should look for a release version instead of using the one off the SVN |
| 01:03.01 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i use the one in the svn repo and It works fine for me :\ |
| 01:04.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Can anyone tell me an easy way to figure out the path to an arbitrary icon ? |
| 01:07.24 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: do you have it on a texture somewhere or ? |
| 01:07.52 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: erm, well, it's the icon of one of my trinkets that I want the path of. |
| 01:08.04 | Guillotine | NightHawkTheSane: how do you set it up? |
| 01:08.11 | Guillotine | I move the anchor, but it never dissapears |
| 01:08.22 | Guillotine | and if I click it again like it says on the wiki, it just makes a new one |
| 01:08.29 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30135 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 01:08.29 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 01:08.29 | CIA-18 | - add Blood Guard Porung |
| 01:08.29 | CIA-18 | - Item/Loot update |
| 01:08.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Guillotine: did you... read the text on the anchor? |
| 01:08.37 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: /dump GetItemInfo("itemlink") |
| 01:09.40 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: 10th return i think |
| 01:09.53 | Guillotine | NightHawkTheSane: that might have been a good idea. Working now >.> |
| 01:10.04 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: erm. excuse my ignorance here, but what do I pass into that? A link to the item, or what? |
| 01:10.35 | knarf^ | what ace libs are there for making something on gui ? |
| 01:10.48 | knarf^ | or is everyone just creating frames on the fly ? |
| 01:11.07 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: just shift-click it in there. or enter the itemid. |
| 01:11.32 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: hm, shift-clicking it gave an AceConsole error. entering the item name as a string worked though. |
| 01:11.43 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks, though :) |
| 01:13.01 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: quotes around the itemlink so's it makes it a string |
| 01:13.18 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: Ahhh. alright, good to know. :) |
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| 01:14.50 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30136 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (6 files in 2 dirs): ClosetGnome_Switcher: Use passing groups and some other small optimizations. |
| 01:16.48 | Daemona | *laugh* ever wanted detailed stats of a boss? -> http://www.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/19461.jpg ... hunters are imbalanced ;) |
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| 01:17.28 | hyperChipmunk | only can do that on beasts |
| 01:17.41 | Daemona | sure but still funny it works on beasts :) |
| 01:17.48 | Daemona | err |
| 01:17.50 | Daemona | bosses |
| 01:20.28 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30137 10FuBar_PTReagentFu/PTReagentFu.lua: FuBar_PTReagentFu: Use passing groups. |
| 01:24.02 | ZealotOnAStick | is there a conditional for target in macros to check if the target is a demon? |
| 01:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 01:27.02 | ZealotOnAStick | bah. There should be. |
| 01:27.37 | Funkeh` | damn warlocks |
| 01:27.46 | Funkeh` | just go get nerfed kk |
| 01:28.50 | Gngsk | am I missing something or does automaton's dismount module not work anymore when flying? |
| 01:28.50 | kenlyric | I'd hope not. |
| 01:28.50 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: in this one raid I onyl did 30% of the total DPS |
| 01:28.50 | NeoTron | and you think I need to be nerfed. feh! Come back when I do 50% |
| 01:28.50 | kenlyric | nothing like splatting on the ground when you try to buff. :) |
| 01:29.04 | NeoTron | haha |
| 01:29.13 | NeoTron | yeah I've died from automatic dismount while mid-air |
| 01:29.16 | kenlyric | Gngsk: auto dismount mods generally don't work when you're actually flying. |
| 01:29.22 | kenlyric | Thought they work if your flying mount is on the ground. |
| 01:29.28 | CIA-18 | 03darravis * r30138 10AceDruidBar/ (AceDruidBar-enUS.lua AceDruidBar.lua): |
| 01:29.28 | CIA-18 | AceDruidBar: |
| 01:29.28 | CIA-18 | - Added the option to hide the mana bar when your mana is at 100% |
| 01:29.29 | Gngsk | yeah, well it used to work |
| 01:29.32 | kenlyric | well, good ones at least. |
| 01:29.34 | Gngsk | something change in the api? |
| 01:29.48 | kenlyric | well, they did recently add IsFlying condition, didn't they? |
| 01:29.52 | kenlyric | or something like that? |
| 01:29.58 | Gngsk | meh, I liked being able to mash my stealth button and be stealthed by the time I hit the ground |
| 01:30.14 | kenlyric | but I know automaton hasn't worked while flying for a a little while at least. |
| 01:30.38 | Gngsk | yep, there it is |
| 01:30.46 | gxam | i'm pretty sure wobbles made it not the first time it killed him |
| 01:30.49 | Gngsk | if IsMounted() and not IsFlying() then Dismount end |
| 01:31.00 | Gngsk | time to fix! |
| 01:31.03 | kenlyric | heh. |
| 01:31.10 | kenlyric | don't you dare check that in :) |
| 01:31.20 | Gngsk | nah, local only |
| 01:31.32 | art3mis | i wish the wowace wiki was properly searchable |
| 01:31.33 | Gngsk | nice if there was an option though |
| 01:31.57 | gxam | Gngsk: we could add an option i guess |
| 01:32.06 | Gngsk | dismount -> [x] enable [x] flying |
| 01:32.06 | gxam | it never occured to me or wobbles that anyone would want that behavior |
| 01:32.20 | Gngsk | it's great for stealth |
| 01:32.27 | gxam | it's a horrid idea |
| 01:32.28 | gxam | i think |
| 01:32.39 | Gngsk | well, sure |
| 01:32.40 | gxam | i'd kill myself all the time |
| 01:32.43 | Gngsk | you could potentially kill yourself |
| 01:32.46 | weab | why would you want that |
| 01:32.49 | Gngsk | but if you are aware, then it's not a problem :P |
| 01:33.05 | weab | no |
| 01:33.09 | Gngsk | cuz I like to mash my stealth button to dismount, then stealth, then hit the ground, then open |
| 01:33.44 | weab | do not commit a change to that unless it is an option that defaults to off please |
| 01:34.13 | Gngsk | never planned on it :P |
| 01:34.14 | weab | if you wanna do that i'm perfectly fine with it |
| 01:34.31 | weab | just making my stance clear! |
| 01:34.35 | Gngsk | cool |
| 01:34.40 | Gngsk | prolly just edit it locally every time I update |
| 01:35.31 | fatbrain | pve shdw priest, spell-crit or spell-dmg? |
| 01:35.43 | weab | focus more on dmg |
| 01:36.19 | weab | crit is nice but only does anything for mind blast |
| 01:36.23 | fatbrain | ok, yeah |
| 01:36.34 | fatbrain | and death |
| 01:36.45 | weab | and sw:d, but you can't rely on it to crit or you'll kill yourself :p |
| 01:36.53 | fatbrain | mm |
| 01:36.59 | vhaarr | Spell damage for the win indeed. |
| 01:37.10 | vhaarr | Crit is a waste except for pvp. |
| 01:37.17 | fatbrain | how much spell-dmg should I expect end-game? 1000? |
| 01:37.24 | vhaarr | yes |
| 01:37.30 | fatbrain | ok, thanks |
| 01:37.33 | vhaarr | I have ~700 with only blues. |
| 01:37.40 | vhaarr | So 1k should be *easy*. |
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| 01:38.33 | hypetech | does anybody know how to move the chat input box with Prat? |
| 01:38.36 | Gagorian | I've got about 1200 spelldamage now. Not that hard to get. |
| 01:38.51 | Bruners | hypetech: its possible |
| 01:39.30 | Bruners | hypetech: editbox->position |
| 01:39.43 | snurre | im at 1070, but i dont have epic weapon nor ritssyn's neck |
| 01:39.56 | snurre | so lack about 80 from that |
| 01:39.57 | vid` | can BT3 no longer change hotbar pages with the keybind? |
| 01:40.11 | vid` | hasnt worked in like a week |
| 01:40.13 | vid` | :( |
| 01:40.25 | vid` | like shift mwheelup/down |
| 01:40.31 | vid` | client stutters, but page doesnt change |
| 01:41.14 | Bruners | it has the feature but not sure if it works |
| 01:47.20 | hypetech | 12«11Bruners12» where is editbox? |
| 01:47.32 | fatbrain | snurre: rgr |
| 01:47.48 | fatbrain | hypetech: please, don't use colours, atleast not lightblue'ish |
| 01:48.04 | snurre | colours on irc are teh devil |
| 01:48.23 | hypetech | fatbrain, I didn't realize I was using colors |
| 01:49.03 | fatbrain | The name inside the «» is blueish |
| 01:49.03 | hypetech | Check out my new UI I just hacked together guys :) It will be complete as soon as I find out how to move the chat input box -.- lol |
| 01:49.04 | hypetech | http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/WoWScrnShot_031307_214249.jpg |
| 01:49.53 | Funkeh` | eww |
| 01:49.54 | snurre | im not the biggest fan of that unitframe |
| 01:49.57 | Funkeh` | crowded UI eww |
| 01:50.15 | Funkeh` | don't care what mods you use crowded = bad in my book |
| 01:50.45 | Funkeh` | increase your resolution/decrease your UI scale also |
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| 01:55.02 | vhaarr | indeed that looks pretty bad |
| 01:55.54 | Codayus | Anyone here familiar with the Maulgar fight? :-) |
| 01:56.02 | CIA-18 | 03rophy * r30139 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: |
| 01:56.02 | CIA-18 | ParserLib-1.1 |
| 01:56.02 | CIA-18 | - Updated some combat events to parse for VS self patterns. |
| 01:56.02 | CIA-18 | - Reordered the eventTable lists by event name. |
| 01:56.04 | Bruners | hypetech: click your prat in fubar and categories->editbox-position |
| 01:57.04 | Bruners | err modules by category->editbox-position |
| 01:57.58 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30140 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Netherspite.lua: |
| 01:57.58 | CIA-18 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Netherspite: |
| 01:57.58 | CIA-18 | - use times since its pretty stable now |
| 01:58.36 | chuckg | Does anyone know if there's a way to access the gmes in an item? |
| 01:58.54 | Bruners | shift click ? |
| 01:59.00 | chuckg | I mean progmatically. |
| 01:59.04 | chuckg | Get their tooltip. |
| 01:59.35 | snurre | Codayus: fairly |
| 02:00.16 | snurre | hypetech: http://crit-happens.net/snurre/ui.jpg |
| 02:00.34 | Codayus | snurre: How hard is the fight compared to Karazhan? Not something you should try until you have the Nightbane on farm, or potentially doable earlier? |
| 02:00.55 | snurre | Codayus: we did it around same time we got prince down first time |
| 02:01.06 | snurre | the fight is all about the pull |
| 02:01.47 | Codayus | Alright. We're still stuck on Curator right now (lack of DPS), but I was wondering when it might be worth trying. :) |
| 02:01.53 | snurre | as long as your MT has the best blues and preferrably a few kara epics, you should be fine |
| 02:02.00 | Codayus | Oh? |
| 02:02.01 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 02:02.55 | Codayus | Our MT is pretty well geared. Best 5-man blues, 2-3 Kara epics. Hmmm. |
| 02:03.17 | snurre | sounds fine |
| 02:03.34 | Codayus | Oh well, might as well give it a shot. What's the worst that can happen? :-p |
| 02:03.44 | snurre | you wipe instantly and try again :p |
| 02:03.50 | Codayus | Yeah! |
| 02:04.02 | knarf^ | Codayus just go mental when the evocation hits :) |
| 02:04.21 | snurre | basically you must just keep the mage mob away from the rest and pray that the lock won't get an unlucky resist |
| 02:04.25 | knarf^ | should get you to 50-60% the first ? |
| 02:04.32 | snurre | http://stage6.divx.com/content/show/1125603?user_id=492167 (our first kill) |
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| 02:05.10 | knarf^ | romulan and juliann event is hard imho :> |
| 02:05.32 | snurre | we got it the first FIVE weeks |
| 02:05.40 | Codayus | knarf^: Heh, not quite. Our class balance is kinda...screwed up, most weeks. Some how by the time we all leveled to 70, we ended up with: 0 shadow priests, 0 healadins, 0 non-feral druids. |
| 02:05.55 | snurre | just tell people to respec :p |
| 02:05.59 | Funkeh` | snurre: grats |
| 02:06.02 | Codayus | (And our only feral druid is lolkitty DPS...not a tank. oO) |
| 02:06.55 | knarf^ | We got 0 shadow priests, 1 healadin and lots of feral dr00ds :) |
| 02:06.55 | knarf^ | we started running 2 kara raids last week |
| 02:06.55 | Codayus | Oh, and 1 warlock, and he only raids some weeks. |
| 02:06.55 | Codayus | 1. *cry* |
| 02:06.56 | snurre | yikes |
| 02:07.10 | knarf^ | snurre what raid frames are you using ? |
| 02:07.55 | snurre | aguf |
| 02:07.59 | knarf^ | I see |
| 02:08.06 | knarf^ | whats the stuff below that frame ? :) |
| 02:08.43 | snurre | swstats |
| 02:08.47 | knarf^ | okay |
| 02:08.49 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30141 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - Battle for Mount Hyjal => Battle of Mount Hyjal |
| 02:08.51 | knarf^ | looks decent |
| 02:08.54 | snurre | changed it a little bit now tho |
| 02:08.55 | knarf^ | mine looks fugly as hell :P |
| 02:09.07 | snurre | moved swstats to where the loot log is in the movie |
| 02:09.14 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30142 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/InstanceMaps.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - removed support for flat textures, as we no longer use those. |
| 02:09.47 | snurre | and combat log to a tab behind chatlog, while ktm and loot log is where combat log was |
| 02:09.49 | knarf^ | I think i'm gonna switch to grid as raid frame when I get my ass around to knowing the darn mod :) |
| 02:10.06 | snurre | also moved target's debuffs below the frame, and ToT to the right of it |
| 02:10.57 | snurre | wish i had this computer back when i frapsed that movie though.. doing slightly better qual on movies now :p |
| 02:11.04 | knarf^ | haha |
| 02:11.09 | knarf^ | I need to upgrade my comp too |
| 02:11.23 | knarf^ | just need to buy a gfx card and some hdds |
| 02:11.42 | knarf^ | then its fairly new I got a new motherboard, cpu and 2gb ram waiting for it |
| 02:11.43 | knarf^ | :;P |
| 02:12.00 | snurre | bought new motherboard, dualcore cpu, 4gb ram and gf8800gtx |
| 02:12.18 | knarf^ | sounds expensive :p |
| 02:12.35 | knarf^ | seriously maulgor hits like a truck |
| 02:12.37 | snurre | 1k euros |
| 02:12.55 | knarf^ | i'm a priest we tried him for around 1 evening, think we are gonna take him next time :) |
| 02:13.48 | steino | gruul with 16 growths hits like a truck |
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| 02:13.56 | steino | maulgor is like a bug compared :p |
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| 02:14.13 | snurre | we had 22 grows on our first night there :p |
| 02:14.19 | knarf^ | steino hehe, would not know, aint there yet :) |
| 02:14.23 | snurre | just testing with a completely useless setup |
| 02:14.33 | steino | lol |
| 02:14.35 | steino | 22 :o |
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| 02:14.51 | steino | nice dps :P |
| 02:14.58 | snurre | everyoen died :p |
| 02:15.03 | steino | :) |
| 02:15.04 | snurre | we had like 15 alive from the first shatter |
| 02:15.09 | steino | lol |
| 02:15.22 | steino | being undead on that fight is kinda nice |
| 02:15.34 | steino | ground slam -> dreamless sleep -> wotf -> run to savespot |
| 02:15.38 | steino | :) |
| 02:15.40 | snurre | learning gruul is a bit annoying though... shatter, oh look we lost 2 so lets wipe fast |
| 02:16.09 | chuckg | Pff. |
| 02:16.16 | chuckg | We just killed him with 4 dead first shatter. |
| 02:16.16 | chuckg | =D |
| 02:16.18 | knarf^ | ah well i'm gonna go to bed |
| 02:16.21 | knarf^ | got school tomorrow |
| 02:16.25 | chuckg | But we've been killing him for weeks. |
| 02:16.39 | snurre | kinda helps then :p |
| 02:16.43 | snurre | how many healers do you go with? |
| 02:16.46 | steino | i wish limited inv pots still worked :< |
| 02:17.04 | Gagorian | well they work, kind of |
| 02:17.16 | Gagorian | Use in mid-air and you wont get the slowing debuff |
| 02:17.24 | steino | ye well |
| 02:17.27 | Gagorian | well worth it if it looks bad |
| 02:17.34 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:17.37 | steino | slowing debuff isnt the problem :) |
| 02:17.49 | Gagorian | if you land in the middle of 10 people in the center... |
| 02:17.51 | Gagorian | it's a problem |
| 02:18.13 | steino | i'd rather be immune to the damage :< |
| 02:18.19 | Gagorian | o rly :D |
| 02:18.32 | chuckg | Hmm. |
| 02:18.34 | snurre | we're having dps issues mostly |
| 02:18.42 | steino | we |
| 02:18.43 | chuckg | We have 2 paladins, 1 healing druid, 2 priests, 2 shaman. |
| 02:18.44 | chuckg | That's it. |
| 02:18.49 | chuckg | Then 2 shadowpriests. |
| 02:18.51 | steino | we're having whiney hunters issues |
| 02:18.52 | snurre | last time he was at 35% with 16 grows *sigh* |
| 02:18.57 | chuckg | We have 4 hunters. |
| 02:19.04 | steino | we have 3 oom hunters |
| 02:19.05 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30143 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/InstanceMaps.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps: brs is now one map so don't need to divert it anywhere, whereas thanks to blizz, we need to divert coilfang reservoir to serpentshrine cavern |
| 02:19.05 | steino | :< |
| 02:19.18 | chuckg | Hunters aren't all that great. |
| 02:19.26 | chuckg | Stack a warlock x 3 + spriest + shaman. |
| 02:19.29 | chuckg | That's your main DPS group. |
| 02:19.36 | steino | rather have shadow priest/warlock then a hunter :p |
| 02:19.51 | steino | buuut |
| 02:19.52 | Bruners | steino: pft |
| 02:19.53 | snurre | we just have too many shitty dpsers atm.. it used to be our strong point in naxx, when we were always pushing 10.5-11k rdps, but most mains quit or rerolled so now were in deep shit |
| 02:20.00 | steino | Bruners: its true! |
| 02:20.01 | chuckg | Replace melee DPS with ranged. |
| 02:20.03 | steino | :) |
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| 02:20.08 | chuckg | You want no more than 3-4 melee. |
| 02:20.17 | chuckg | With either a resto or melee shaman. |
| 02:20.24 | steino | we run 2 warr 2 rogue |
| 02:20.34 | steino | our all 2-3 mages *cry* |
| 02:20.46 | steino | wish all our hunters rerolled mages/warlocks |
| 02:20.47 | steino | :P |
| 02:20.52 | snurre | spriest > warlock > oomkin > mage > rogue > hunter > feraldrood > enh shaman |
| 02:20.53 | snurre | imo |
| 02:21.03 | kenlyric | I wish all our hunters had kept playing. |
| 02:21.06 | steino | feral druids > hunters |
| 02:21.13 | steino | :) |
| 02:21.13 | ilifin | seconding that kenlyric |
| 02:21.21 | snurre | steino: only depending on amount of rogues |
| 02:21.22 | ilifin | not enough to MD the adds on maulgar ftl |
| 02:21.25 | steino | true |
| 02:21.25 | kenlyric | druid and priests too. |
| 02:21.45 | snurre | we lost *all* our warrs (including me) :p |
| 02:21.51 | steino | lol |
| 02:21.52 | steino | fail ! |
| 02:22.00 | snurre | didnt have a single dnaught piece active in the guild when tbc came |
| 02:22.02 | kenlyric | our current normal karazhan team has like 10 dps, 3 tanks, 4 healers. |
| 02:22.03 | chuckg | Feral druid > rogue. |
| 02:22.08 | chuckg | Self heal buff + group buff. |
| 02:22.12 | ckknight | snurre: pallies ftw? |
| 02:22.22 | chuckg | 2 rogues, 1 dps warrior, 1 feral druid, 1 dps shaman is your melee setup. |
| 02:22.30 | chuckg | 2 paladins for 2x lay on hands for the last ~20%. |
| 02:22.37 | snurre | ckknight: 3 rerolled pallys, all quit.. i rerolled lock :p |
| 02:22.45 | steino | tbh |
| 02:22.47 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:22.47 | steino | we didnt lose warriors |
| 02:22.49 | steino | we gained 4 |
| 02:22.50 | steino | ... |
| 02:22.52 | ckknight | I'm lvl 33 pally now |
| 02:23.01 | steino | stupid druids rerolled |
| 02:23.04 | steino | of all classes |
| 02:23.10 | steino | all the druids rerolled warriors |
| 02:23.11 | snurre | well, we gained in total amount of players, but we have a friends rank in the guild, so cant count those |
| 02:23.21 | chuckg | We had 3 priests, 1 rogue, and 2 warriors reroll paladin. |
| 02:26.26 | steino | our guildleader rerolled pally |
| 02:26.30 | steino | leveled it to 66 |
| 02:26.32 | steino | and then quit |
| 02:26.33 | steino | :P |
| 02:26.48 | snurre | we had 3 rogues, then one rerolled to become MT :p |
| 02:26.54 | snurre | since our warrior options were shite |
| 02:27.07 | steino | we still have the same rogues.. mostly |
| 02:27.13 | steino | except me |
| 02:27.13 | steino | :P |
| 02:27.25 | snurre | so got 70 with the rogue, exalted with aldor and some stuff.. rerolled warrior and has full kara epics now :p |
| 02:28.22 | steino | my rogue is still 60, stacked in naxx gear and pvp spec |
| 02:28.24 | steino | and 1g |
| 02:28.28 | steino | :) |
| 02:28.42 | snurre | same with my warr |
| 02:28.51 | snurre | except for the pvp spec |
| 02:28.56 | snurre | 0/0/0 ftw |
| 02:29.04 | snurre | haven't killed a critter since 2.0.1 patch day :p |
| 02:29.21 | steino | we got stuck in gruuls lair once |
| 02:29.23 | steino | had to do something |
| 02:29.36 | snurre | oh |
| 02:29.37 | steino | ran around in AV 2 shotting cloties |
| 02:29.38 | snurre | im prot spec actually |
| 02:29.40 | snurre | didnt know that |
| 02:29.40 | steino | clothies* |
| 02:29.42 | steino | haha |
| 02:29.44 | snurre | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Dragonmaw&n=Capnaggro |
| 02:31.09 | Bruners | steino: give me your epic flyer |
| 02:31.28 | steino | Bruners: nowai |
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| 02:31.54 | steino | ebay is your friend mate! |
| 02:32.10 | snurre | gold is expensive atm |
| 02:32.13 | ckknight | http://www.atlasmod.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=748&p=4441 |
| 02:32.16 | steino | true |
| 02:32.28 | steino | it wasnt when i dinged 70 tho ^^ |
| 02:33.31 | snurre | didnt really check when i dinged, was too busy playing, sleeping and working :p |
| 02:33.53 | steino | :) |
| 02:34.12 | steino | Was fun watching all slow guildies going "wtf, gold is so fcking expencive.." |
| 02:34.23 | snurre | was pretty damn hard for a while.. work+travel for 10h, get home at 17 and sleep until 20. Play until 06:50ish and go to work |
| 02:34.26 | steino | and flying on that 60% mount :p |
| 02:34.35 | steino | lol |
| 02:34.50 | steino | took 3 days off work to get 70 without destroying myself |
| 02:35.11 | steino | my boss (who plays some himself) totally understood why :p |
| 02:35.17 | snurre | i dont regret doing that though, was server 2nd to 70 (5 first were all guildies) so we had all zones after terokkar all to ourselves |
| 02:35.27 | steino | ye |
| 02:35.29 | steino | same |
| 02:35.31 | snurre | group for elite quests, split up and do quests solo the rest of the time |
| 02:35.38 | snurre | no competition for anything |
| 02:35.39 | steino | was 4th or something on mine |
| 02:36.00 | steino | could prolly have done it faster |
| 02:36.02 | steino | but meh |
| 02:36.16 | snurre | without doing something even more efficient in-game i couldnt have :p |
| 02:36.29 | steino | xD |
| 02:36.37 | snurre | had to keep up with those who didnt work, so i had like 7h less playtime per day |
| 02:36.54 | steino | had two of those in my guild too |
| 02:37.08 | steino | i think they slept 10h totaly that week |
| 02:37.09 | snurre | http://nihilum.co.uk/image/286/ tihi |
| 02:37.46 | steino | sexeh |
| 02:38.00 | steino | mine has 84d :o |
| 02:38.18 | snurre | mine was /born december 6th tho :p |
| 02:38.24 | steino | :) |
| 02:38.42 | steino | 123d on rogue, 84d on priest |
| 02:38.43 | CIA-18 | 03next96 * r30144 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: |
| 02:38.43 | CIA-18 | Skinner : |
| 02:38.43 | CIA-18 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:38.43 | steino | lol |
| 02:39.03 | snurre | cant remember what i have on my warr.. about 190 i think :( |
| 02:39.09 | Bruners | steino: what is your played at 70 ? |
| 02:39.12 | nymbia | " By the way, in 2.1 the names of party/raid members and pets can be used interchangeably with their unit ids. This won't work with arbitrary player names, but might be useful to know. :)" |
| 02:39.16 | steino | sec |
| 02:39.23 | pastamancer | hmm |
| 02:39.26 | steino | 32d on hunter even |
| 02:39.27 | steino | :P |
| 02:39.28 | pastamancer | what about pets with the same name |
| 02:39.33 | vhaarr | nymbia: Where's that from? |
| 02:40.01 | nymbia | vhaarr: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=82085690&sid=1 |
| 02:40.21 | snurre | fun fact, with 7 healers you actually only need 949DPS per character on gruul.. :p |
| 02:40.28 | steino | Bruners: 20d |
| 02:40.37 | Bruners | 5 days more than me :) |
| 02:40.40 | steino | :) |
| 02:40.59 | steino | I think we ran 4 pure healers last gruul |
| 02:41.02 | steino | or something |
| 02:41.03 | pastamancer | I think I'm going to have to hump slouken's face for implementing rosterlib in default wow |
| 02:41.13 | pastamancer | or not, as he prefers |
| 02:41.17 | nymbia | hehe |
| 02:41.25 | snurre | hm, i forgot to say that 949 was required to kill him within 10 grows :p |
| 02:41.36 | steino | lol |
| 02:41.44 | Bruners | have spent 10 hours wipeing on romie and julie event today -_- |
| 02:41.47 | steino | i know borked does it woth 10 groows |
| 02:41.51 | steino | grows* |
| 02:41.56 | vhaarr | nymbia: Too bad he doens't mention *where* it can be used interchangeably. |
| 02:41.57 | steino | sick dps <.< |
| 02:42.05 | snurre | with 4 healers you need 843 to do it within 10 |
| 02:42.19 | snurre | hm, no that was with 5 healers |
| 02:42.23 | nymbia | vhaarr: i'd hope everywhere that a unitid can be used |
| 02:42.32 | snurre | 790ish with 4 (havent done calc) |
| 02:42.52 | vhaarr | nymbia: Indeed, hope so. |
| 02:43.29 | ckknight | anyone know the levels of the assorted SM wings? |
| 02:44.02 | chuckg | Starts like 34 up to 37. |
| 02:44.07 | snurre | 10 grows is 300sec.. i do about 840dps unbuffed, elemental shamans do 1000+.. so shouldn't be too hard if you have an equally capable raid force.. our problem is that the top ones are doing more than twice the amount of the lower ones :( |
| 02:44.30 | steino | ye |
| 02:44.34 | steino | we had that problem in naxx |
| 02:44.35 | steino | :) |
| 02:44.53 | steino | some did 1\3 of what the top3 did |
| 02:45.02 | snurre | i bitched enough to fix the problem in naxx, but those who learned then are either the ones doing (almost) good enough now, or have quit |
| 02:45.26 | steino | we didnt bitch |
| 02:45.32 | steino | we made dpsbuddies within classes :p |
| 02:45.43 | snurre | i wasnt even the best equipped warr, but i did 200dps more than the best one on patch.. so i *had* to kick them hard in the ass to make them worth the spot |
| 02:46.09 | ZealotOnAStick | do you have a shadow priest in the raid? |
| 02:46.11 | steino | oh, patchwerk |
| 02:46.25 | steino | i remember how i could beat flasked mages/warlocks with a mongoose and giants |
| 02:46.32 | steino | and windfury |
| 02:46.37 | snurre | ZealotOnAStick: i wouldnt wanna go to gruul without :p |
| 02:46.50 | steino | I wouldnt go anywhere without tbh |
| 02:46.53 | snurre | true |
| 02:47.03 | ZealotOnAStick | well, ours was in Ireland for 2 weeks. |
| 02:47.10 | snurre | having at least one in any raid is a HUGE asset |
| 02:51.57 | snurre | aaanyway, sleeptime.. work in 8h |
| 02:54.07 | ckknight | what would you call the the zone Scarlet Monastery, where it's not an instance yet but it leads up to a bunch of instances |
| 02:54.23 | ckknight | it'd be also what you'd call Coilfang Reservoir |
| 02:54.26 | ckknight | since it does the same thing |
| 02:55.02 | ckknight | same with Ring of Observance and whatnot |
| 02:55.24 | Funkeh` | not really since coilfang has named its instances |
| 02:55.32 | ggilbert | I'd just call it an area myself |
| 02:55.34 | ggilbert | or subzone |
| 02:55.48 | Funkeh` | but the actual scarlet monastery zone is, guess waht! also called scarlet monastery, aswel as the zones :( |
| 02:55.58 | ckknight | Funkeh`: don't worry about that |
| 02:56.14 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I'm just talking about what it'd be called, the zone that leads to many wings of a dungeon |
| 02:56.29 | Funkeh` | i usually call it a complex |
| 02:56.35 | ckknight | Complex it is. |
| 03:01.27 | Bruners | is it a way to disable to button on Autobar? |
| 03:01.37 | ggilbert | Yes there is |
| 03:01.44 | ggilbert | on the bar tab |
| 03:01.48 | CIA-18 | 03next96 * r30145 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: |
| 03:01.48 | CIA-18 | Skinner : |
| 03:01.48 | CIA-18 | - sorry Typo fix :):) |
| 03:04.08 | Bruners | nice |
| 03:06.06 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30146 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - add the SM wings |
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| 03:11.55 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30147 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: |
| 03:11.55 | CIA-18 | .Tourist-2.0 - add the SM wings, added a new type "Complex" for entrances to winged instances. |
| 03:11.55 | CIA-18 | - added :IsComplex("zone") -- whether said zone is a complex |
| 03:11.55 | CIA-18 | - added :GetComplex("instance") -- get the complex the instance is in, or nil |
| 03:12.17 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30148 10Cartographer/Cartographer_ZoneInfo/ZoneInfo.lua: Cartographer_ZoneInfo - use the new complex dealies. |
| 03:15.34 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30149 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/ (Data.lua InstanceMaps.lua): |
| 03:15.34 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_InstanceMaps - use the new complex thingy in the goto menu |
| 03:15.34 | CIA-18 | Add the SM wings |
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| 03:26.51 | chuckg | Bleh, what frame is that that does the capturing in EOTS and world objectives? |
| 03:27.58 | ckknight | does anyone know the level ranges of the SM wings? |
| 03:31.14 | ckknight | anyone know what Ring of Observance is? |
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| 03:31.59 | vhaarr | Ring of Observance is the subzone I added to show Auchindoun instances. |
| 03:32.31 | vhaarr | It's the name that appears when you hover Auchindoun in the Bone Wastes in Terokkar Forest in Outlands. |
| 03:32.53 | ckknight | well because of that, it now looks like "Ring of Observance - Mana-Tombs" |
| 03:32.54 | ckknight | gah |
| 03:32.56 | ckknight | hate Blizz |
| 03:33.08 | vhaarr | Why they didn't just name it "Auchindoun" when hovering it, I have no idea. |
| 03:33.27 | ckknight | so does GetRealZoneText() return "Auchindoun" or "Ring of Observance"? |
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| 03:33.43 | Arrowmaster | its Terokkar Forest |
| 03:33.44 | vhaarr | I don't know, never tried that, this is just when you hover the location on the zone map. |
| 03:34.15 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: seriously? |
| 03:34.18 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:34.35 | ckknight | damn Blizz |
| 03:34.36 | Arrowmaster | im 99% sure |
| 03:34.45 | Arrowmaster | since its outside in the middle of Terokkar Forest |
| 03:35.31 | Arrowmaster | all the added entries in tourist for the hover info makes some stuff iffy and incorrect imho |
| 03:36.53 | Arrowmaster | should just do something like add extra spaces at the end of names just there for hovering so stuff doesnt get overwrote when tourist creates the tables it uses to get info, then add some string.trim's to returns |
| 03:37.03 | Arrowmaster | its hackie but would fix it |
| 03:37.34 | Arrowmaster | that or create a new table |
| 03:37.43 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30150 10Skinner/ (. Localisations.lua): Skinner: if your gonna translate something do it properly don't leave a ton of crap in |
| 03:37.44 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30151 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Don't error if we don't have a translation for new unitid's. |
| 03:38.13 | Funkeh` | damn those koreans |
| 03:40.42 | Kirkburn|afk | zomg, countryism! |
| 03:40.52 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30152 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: |
| 03:40.52 | CIA-18 | .Tourist-2.0 - removed :IsComplex("zone") |
| 03:40.52 | CIA-18 | - :GetComplex("instance") can now return an arbitrary non-zone string, e.g. "Auchindoun" |
| 03:41.05 | ckknight | alright, looks like we're good |
| 03:48.24 | vhaarr | ckknight: With AceDB, can I make a defaults table like { test = { ["*"] = true, foo = false, bar = false } }, so that everything except foo and bar defaults to true? |
| 03:50.38 | ckknight | yes, vhaarr |
| 03:50.41 | vhaarr | sweet |
| 03:51.28 | Arrowmaster | so did you use find/replace to make some of these tourist changes? |
| 03:52.34 | Arrowmaster | because Undercity now has "Armory" "Library" "Graveyard" and "Cathedral" now listed in its instances = {} |
| 03:52.51 | ckknight | no, Arrowmaster, I did it manually |
| 03:53.12 | ckknight | Cities and the zones they're in share the same instances |
| 03:53.15 | ckknight | so Durotar has RFC |
| 03:53.18 | ckknight | makes things simpler, imho |
| 03:53.33 | Arrowmaster | but shouldnt that be SM and not the wings |
| 03:53.54 | vhaarr | ckknight: If I do |RegisterDefaults("profile", { test = {"foo", "bar"} })|, and then remove an item from the respective database array and relog, is the database supposed to contain the default entries again? |
| 03:54.14 | ckknight | lists don't work right in AceDB |
| 03:54.25 | ckknight | only keyed values work for defaults |
| 03:54.44 | vhaarr | yeah I noticed something was wrong |
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| 03:56.02 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30153 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - now sorts when you call IterateZoneInstances |
| 03:59.28 | Bruners | scheduled maintenance sucks big time |
| 03:59.32 | Arrowmaster | imho a lot of stuff in tourist needs to be checked for consistancy, like the Auchindoun instances all have path = Z["Ring of Observance"] but the Caverns of Time instances all have path = Z["Tanaris"] |
| 03:59.46 | CIA-18 | 03gamefaq * r30154 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: added deDE Blood Guard Porung = Blutwache Porung |
| 04:00.09 | Funkeh` | its supposed to be online |
| 04:00.15 | Funkeh` | its a server restart apparently |
| 04:00.17 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: fel free to make changes as you see fit |
| 04:00.20 | Funkeh` | online maintenance |
| 04:00.29 | ckknight | feel* |
| 04:00.43 | Funkeh` | or not.. |
| 04:00.47 | Bruners | says shutdown here |
| 04:01.02 | Funkeh` | shutdown 15min gg.. |
| 04:01.10 | Funkeh` | on login screen says rolling restarts |
| 04:01.19 | Bruners | why do they need to do maintenance for anyway? |
| 04:01.28 | vhaarr | weekly maintenance |
| 04:01.40 | vhaarr | clearing caches, freeing memory, etc |
| 04:02.03 | Bruners | and that cant be done in one restart or over 1 hour ? |
| 04:02.17 | vhaarr | realms will be back in ~1h |
| 04:02.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Bruners: apparently it can't. |
| 04:02.54 | Funkeh` | i don't think backing up so much data takes only an hour ;) |
| 04:03.25 | vhaarr | ckknight: So if I do { table = { [1] = "foo", [2] = "bar" }, would that work, or is that just the same as an array then? |
| 04:04.22 | Funkeh` | my level 53 warrior is pwning 60's in AV |
| 04:04.27 | Funkeh` | ! |
| 04:05.40 | Funkeh` | apart from those damn hunters! |
| 04:05.59 | Bruners | hunters are easy |
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| 04:06.50 | ckknight | vhaarr: that is the same as far as AceDB is concerned |
| 04:06.55 | ckknight | since it sees everything as a hash |
| 04:06.57 | ckknight | instead of a list |
| 04:07.00 | ckknight | due to its lature |
| 04:07.03 | vhaarr | right |
| 04:07.04 | ckknight | nature* |
| 04:07.44 | vhaarr | ckknight: I had some suggestions for passing aceoption groups a few days ago, did you see them? |
| 04:07.55 | Bruners | i wonder if prospecting is getting a nerf |
| 04:08.02 | ckknight | yea, but I can't remember, I don't feel 100% |
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| 04:08.18 | Diabolic-Destiny | hallo |
| 04:08.18 | vhaarr | alright, let me know if you want to hack on it, and I'll reiterate |
| 04:08.52 | vhaarr | if/when |
| 04:08.52 | ckknight | oh, my head |
| 04:08.58 | ckknight | lousy headaches |
| 04:09.07 | Diabolic-Destiny | anyone know a good place to buy online gamecards? |
| 04:09.09 | vhaarr | I have a bad stomach today, been to the wc 3 times the last hour |
| 04:09.12 | vhaarr | :/ |
| 04:11.36 | Diabolic-Destiny | .. |
| 04:15.05 | CIA-18 | 03gamefaq * r30155 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 04:15.05 | CIA-18 | Babble-2.2: |
| 04:15.05 | CIA-18 | - Zone: add deDE SM wings |
| 04:17.18 | Diabolic-Destiny | anyone have an idea of who sends gamecards via email? |
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| 04:22.47 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: I've done it before |
| 04:23.00 | ckknight | vhaarr: wailing caverns? |
| 04:23.01 | Diabolic-Destiny | from where? |
| 04:23.09 | ckknight | I don't remember. |
| 04:23.12 | vhaarr | ckknight: Water closet ;) |
| 04:23.19 | Diabolic-Destiny | did u search ne thing specific? |
| 04:23.27 | ckknight | vhaarr: was wondering, I was like, wow, WC in 20 minutes, damn |
| 04:23.32 | Diabolic-Destiny | on google, please the closest store is closed |
| 04:23.34 | vhaarr | haha |
| 04:23.36 | Diabolic-Destiny | n i cant use CC |
| 04:23.38 | Diabolic-Destiny | n they dont take PayPal |
| 04:23.38 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: I was referred from someone else |
| 04:23.48 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: I used Paypal, hang on, lemme search my email |
| 04:23.53 | Diabolic-Destiny | k thanks |
| 04:24.12 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: Is your server up? |
| 04:24.20 | Diabolic-Destiny | thanks bro |
| 04:24.49 | Funkeh` | no |
| 04:24.53 | Funkeh` | they changed the news |
| 04:24.59 | Funkeh` | will not shut down from 5 - 7 |
| 04:25.03 | Funkeh` | now* |
| 04:25.24 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: Gamer's Loot |
| 04:25.56 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30156 10BigWigs/Plugins/Colors.lua: BigWigs: Colors: Some changes, mostly to make :BarColor as fast as possible. |
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| 04:26.08 | Gamefaq | hi |
| 04:26.21 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 04:26.53 | Diabolic-Destiny | k thanks |
| 04:27.08 | Diabolic-Destiny | good service? |
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| 04:28.56 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: seemed good to me |
| 04:29.08 | Diabolic-Destiny | awsome thanks alot |
| 04:29.09 | ckknight | people had trouble with their BC copies arriving late |
| 04:29.15 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30157 10BigWigs/Plugins/Colors.lua: BigWigs: Colors: Refresh the color table on reload. |
| 04:29.16 | Diabolic-Destiny | wow this is cheaper than buying from retail store |
| 04:29.17 | ckknight | but the gamecard I bought came in like 20 minutes |
| 04:29.24 | Diabolic-Destiny | cool thanks |
| 04:29.26 | Diabolic-Destiny | they call u? |
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| 04:30.03 | ckknight | yes, once |
| 04:30.13 | Diabolic-Destiny | cool ill giv it a shot |
| 04:30.13 | Pyrrhus | Sup all |
| 04:30.14 | Diabolic-Destiny | thanks alo |
| 04:30.15 | ckknight | to make sure you're real or something |
| 04:30.24 | Diabolic-Destiny | lol |
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| 04:31.02 | Diabolic-Destiny | whats ur name so i can refer u |
| 04:31.08 | Diabolic-Destiny | Ckknight? |
| 04:31.15 | Diabolic-Destiny | ur emaill sorry |
| 04:31.29 | Diabolic-Destiny | unless u dun want referral |
| 04:31.57 | Funkeh` | why would he unless you get money from it |
| 04:32.10 | Diabolic-Destiny | maybe he gets discount? |
| 04:32.23 | Diabolic-Destiny | on future purchase iuno i dun have to im jus being nice |
| 04:32.33 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30158 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/module.lua: Cartographer_InstanceNotes - fix nil bug for the foreigners. |
| 04:32.37 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: ckknight at gmail |
| 04:33.39 | Diabolic-Destiny | thank you |
| 04:34.07 | Diabolic-Destiny | hope u get a discount thing or w/e |
| 04:35.16 | ckknight | we'll see |
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| 04:35.16 | ckknight | my card will likely run out soon |
| 04:35.16 | Funkeh` | woot woot |
| 04:35.16 | Funkeh` | sg1 episode 20 is up for grabs vhaarr |
| 04:35.19 | vhaarr | yay! |
| 04:35.21 | ckknight | and I've vowed not to pay for WoW ever again, so we'll see how things go |
| 04:36.57 | Diabolic-Destiny | would i get screwed if i put a cell number? |
| 04:37.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | i dun want em to call my house its late :S |
| 04:38.22 | ckknight | yea, they won't call a cell |
| 04:38.24 | ckknight | I tried |
| 04:38.28 | ckknight | you need to put a landline |
| 04:39.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | wut if i put a landline and ask them to call a cell |
| 04:39.17 | Diabolic-Destiny | Phone number you can be reached |
| 04:39.17 | Diabolic-Destiny | at within 45 minutes of your order: |
| 04:39.17 | Diabolic-Destiny | If this is different from the registered home number, please indicate why |
| 04:39.24 | Diabolic-Destiny | i put a cell in that box n said cuz ppl r sleeping |
| 04:39.37 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:39.38 | ckknight | try it out :-P |
| 04:39.42 | Funkeh` | thats a good reason |
| 04:39.49 | ckknight | I'd suggest not raping the English language, though |
| 04:39.53 | Diabolic-Destiny | lol if my parents found out thed kill me |
| 04:40.30 | Diabolic-Destiny | would they know my billing info via paypal, or no. |
| 04:40.43 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
| 04:40.59 | Diabolic-Destiny | like if i put a cell number would they be able to verify that its not a cell number through paypal |
| 04:41.00 | Diabolic-Destiny | or no |
| 04:41.12 | Diabolic-Destiny | cuz a 416 area code is also an actual homeline area code |
| 04:41.20 | Funkeh` | inc lots of dcing, dman torrents |
| 04:41.24 | ckknight | I don't know |
| 04:41.30 | ckknight | just try it and see what happens |
| 04:41.31 | Funkeh` | damn* |
| 04:46.43 | Diabolic-Destiny | hope to get it soon times |
| 04:47.10 | Diabolic-Destiny | if this works man that means ill b saving 13$ / gamecard |
| 04:47.35 | Funkeh` | http://stage6.divx.com/members/628762/videos/1151148 |
| 04:47.38 | Funkeh` | awesome movie |
| 04:51.28 | vhaarr | yooo asgard ftw |
| 04:51.48 | Funkeh` | asgard? |
| 04:51.51 | Funkeh` | i didn't read it |
| 04:51.54 | Funkeh` | just dling it |
| 04:52.00 | Funkeh` | don't say anything :p |
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| 04:53.28 | chuckg | Yay just released my latest mod! (well, modification/update/upgrade of someone else's) http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6983 |
| 04:54.13 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 04:55.00 | chuckg | If only blizzard would release a LUA way to make virtual frames now. =D |
| 04:56.14 | chuckg | Someone really should write a program that lets you just input changes/new files and it updates your files/data/screenshots on different websites. |
| 04:56.21 | chuckg | Man that would be a dream come true. |
| 04:56.28 | chuckg | I always forget to check curse-gaming. |
| 04:56.32 | chuckg | Or update there. |
| 04:57.06 | chuckg | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6983 |
| 04:57.10 | chuckg | oOops wrong channel. |
| 04:57.11 | chuckg | Sorry :) |
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| 05:02.44 | Kirkburn|afk | chuckg, be it not on the SVN? |
| 05:03.08 | chuckg | IT is. |
| 05:03.14 | chuckg | http://svn.chuckg.org ! |
| 05:03.17 | chuckg | Just a different one. |
| 05:03.19 | chuckg | =D |
| 05:03.27 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 05:03.38 | chuckg | I got so used to having my own. |
| 05:03.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Cool mod, woo :) |
| 05:04.06 | chuckg | Let me know what you think! |
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| 05:09.28 | Bruners | chuckg: is the new dragged position remembered? |
| 05:09.54 | chuckg | Yes. |
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| 05:10.27 | Bruners | nice |
| 05:10.58 | Funkeh` | sucky isps! |
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| 05:14.52 | Diabolic-Destiny | thats so tight he wanted to speak with my dad |
| 05:16.27 | Diabolic-Destiny | thanks CK |
| 05:16.37 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:16.40 | ckknight | how old are you? |
| 05:16.40 | Diabolic-Destiny | workd |
| 05:16.42 | Diabolic-Destiny | 18 |
| 05:16.48 | Diabolic-Destiny | i turnd it yesterday |
| 05:16.56 | ckknight | ah, cool |
| 05:16.57 | ckknight | happy birthday |
| 05:17.00 | Diabolic-Destiny | thanks b |
| 05:17.04 | Diabolic-Destiny | cant wait till 19 |
| 05:17.14 | Bruners | what happends at 19 ? |
| 05:17.19 | Diabolic-Destiny | 19+ club |
| 05:17.19 | pastamancer | wtf, did stormy get his account deleted and created a new one? |
| 05:17.22 | Bruners | cant recall anything good |
| 05:17.29 | Diabolic-Destiny | plus legal drinking age |
| 05:17.39 | Bruners | in what country ? |
| 05:18.19 | Diabolic-Destiny | Canada |
| 05:18.36 | Diabolic-Destiny | aw man the friggen account site is busy |
| 05:18.42 | Bruners | why 19 ? |
| 05:18.45 | zoktar | can i add it to wau ? |
| 05:18.50 | Diabolic-Destiny | iuno.. |
| 05:18.52 | Bruners | why not 18 or 20 |
| 05:19.00 | Diabolic-Destiny | ur tellin me |
| 05:19.02 | Diabolic-Destiny | it should b 18 |
| 05:19.06 | zoktar | chuckg can i add it to wau ? |
| 05:19.16 | chuckg | WAU? |
| 05:19.45 | Diabolic-Destiny | WinAceUpdater.. |
| 05:19.56 | chuckg | Oh, my svn? |
| 05:19.57 | Diabolic-Destiny | goddamn i cant access the website page |
| 05:19.58 | Bruners | do 19 count for hard liquor or just beer ? |
| 05:20.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | for everything |
| 05:20.12 | Diabolic-Destiny | so basically i cant vote but i cant drink |
| 05:20.44 | zoktar | chuckg ye =) |
| 05:21.06 | ggilbert | With Grid, is it possible to set it up so that it notifies if you don't have one of two Buffs applied? |
| 05:21.07 | Bruners | well, 18 on beer/liquor/vine and 20 on hard liquor |
| 05:21.18 | Diabolic-Destiny | thats even dumber |
| 05:21.21 | Diabolic-Destiny | either drink it all or none |
| 05:21.21 | Bruners | here i norway |
| 05:21.24 | PProvost | ggilbert, I've been thinking about the same thing. |
| 05:21.35 | PProvost | Not sure if it exists though... |
| 05:21.45 | chuckg | zoktar, feel free. All ... 10 users of cgCrafty would rejoice. |
| 05:21.46 | Diabolic-Destiny | Can anyone access the WoW Site, and go into account managment |
| 05:23.01 | Diabolic-Destiny | Grrrr |
| 05:23.54 | Diabolic-Destiny | can anyone check to see |
| 05:23.56 | Diabolic-Destiny | if its just me |
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| 05:24.36 | zoktar | chuckg just wonderd if it was possible ;P |
| 05:24.37 | chuckg | So yes, that would be amazing if you did zoktar. |
| 05:24.41 | chuckg | Oh. |
| 05:25.00 | chuckg | To add it to WAU, I'd have to add it to the ace SVN. |
| 05:25.16 | zoktar | chuckg ye coudlnt find a option to add svns |
| 05:25.39 | art3mis | using tortise? |
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| 05:26.51 | Diabolic-Destiny | how long is the friggen account management site gonna b busy for |
| 05:26.53 | Diabolic-Destiny | just lmy luck |
| 05:28.16 | Diabolic-Destiny | guys im curious as to what the Cartographer Metamap Icon pack is |
| 05:28.21 | Diabolic-Destiny | i have it installed but havent noticed nething |
| 05:30.24 | Bruners | different icons on notes |
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| 05:39.27 | Diabolic-Destiny | but how do i change em |
| 05:39.33 | Diabolic-Destiny | im still seeing the default carto icns |
| 05:44.31 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30159 10BigWigs/Plugins/Colors.lua: BigWigs: Colors: Don't :lower incoming message color types. This will break modules that use "attention", for example - now you must use "Attention". |
| 05:48.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | seen |
| 05:52.02 | CIA-18 | 03cryect * r30160 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib: Reorganized the various functions so the file is easier to read and moved the various graph functions out of the library |
| 05:53.56 | [Ammo] | morning |
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| 05:55.29 | chuckg | Morning. |
| 05:55.38 | chuckg | But I guess that's relatie. |
| 05:55.50 | vhaarr | morning |
| 05:57.09 | Cryect | btw anyone know whats with the various status bars seeming to not update the main bars position every frame resulting in my casting bar looking jumpy both in ag_uf & OCB |
| 05:57.27 | chuckg | Restart your computer. |
| 05:57.32 | chuckg | It's a graphics glitch thing, I found. |
| 05:57.35 | Cryect | Restart my computer? |
| 05:57.51 | Cryect | heh well that should be just wow related |
| 05:58.36 | chuckg | Wasn't for me. |
| 05:58.56 | chuckg | I had my computer on for like 2 weeks, around 1.5 weeks in, it starte doing that and idnd't go away with wow restarts until I completely restarted. |
| 05:59.15 | Cryect | thats fucked up |
| 05:59.23 | Cryect | Not sure how long my computer has been on |
| 05:59.40 | Feldia | try $uptime(system,1) |
| 05:59.45 | chuckg | It doesn't have anything to do with computer uptime. |
| 05:59.46 | Feldia | if you're using mirc |
| 05:59.48 | chuckg | I don't think... |
| 05:59.51 | Cryect | $uptime(system,1) |
| 05:59.56 | Feldia | heh |
| 05:59.57 | Feldia | push tab :P |
| 05:59.58 | chuckg | It's just, once it starts, I don't think it can be fixed until then. |
| 06:00.09 | Cryect | Heh oh was that it feldia always forgot what I was uspposed to do for them |
| 06:00.13 | Cryect | 1wk 5days 21hrs 10mins 22secs |
| 06:00.29 | sedatedChipmunk | weak |
| 06:00.39 | Cryect | yeah I tend to reset my ocmputer every couple weeks |
| 06:01.04 | Bruners | only happends when my screencard crashes |
| 06:01.35 | Bruners | restarting that is |
| 06:01.37 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30161 10BigWigs/Plugins/Colors.lua: BigWigs: Colors: Bugfix. |
| 06:02.45 | Cryect | restarting wow didn't fix it don't feel like restarting my computer for this bug |
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| 06:06.19 | syeren | Just finished watching Saw 3. |
| 06:06.22 | syeren | Pretty good movie! |
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| 06:11.54 | Bruners | http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot021007115619up6.jpg how do he get those buttons so glossy ? |
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| 06:12.10 | vhaarr | cyCircled |
| 06:12.15 | vhaarr | without even looking |
| 06:12.58 | Bruners | look |
| 06:12.58 | Bruners | :) |
| 06:12.58 | vhaarr | I'd rather not |
| 06:13.20 | [Ammo] | vhaarr is probably right |
| 06:13.22 | sedatedChipmunk | hehe, say what you will about the X server model, at least you don't have to reboot everytime it messes up |
| 06:13.28 | [Ammo] | glossy -> go cycircled :p |
| 06:13.51 | sedatedChipmunk | computer? reboot it once every 4 months or so |
| 06:13.57 | sedatedChipmunk | X? 4 times a day=P |
| 06:14.54 | sedatedChipmunk | if i had to reboot everytime X screwed up, i'd be killing babies just to stay sane |
| 06:18.26 | syeren | Oooh [Ammo], I have a new version of my UI! |
| 06:18.53 | syeren | http://fabrikate.org/ui/ui_13307.jpg |
| 06:19.17 | Cryect | well sedatedChipmunk i have to reset explorer.exe often |
| 06:19.39 | Cryect | well not that often but it does crash or hang up every so often |
| 06:20.21 | chuckg | I wonder if there's a way to restart your graphics card...without rebooting. |
| 06:20.26 | chuckg | Or if it's CPU based. |
| 06:20.28 | Cryect | on ATI cards yeah |
| 06:20.29 | chuckg | What CPU do you have Cry? |
| 06:20.38 | Cryect | amd dual core |
| 06:20.42 | chuckg | Maybe it's that. |
| 06:20.49 | chuckg | Related to the buggy turning issue? |
| 06:20.56 | chuckg | I'll have to ask my friend who gets the same shit. |
| 06:20.59 | Cryect | I don't have any issues with turning |
| 06:21.10 | chuckg | Not anymore. |
| 06:21.20 | chuckg | There were though. |
| 06:21.23 | chuckg | If you turned it was choppy. |
| 06:21.30 | Cryect | Don't recall ever seeing that |
| 06:21.34 | Ver | I do |
| 06:21.42 | Ver | Try using ATi TrayTools |
| 06:21.50 | Cryect | well I have Nvidia |
| 06:21.53 | Ver | and downclocking your card by 5MHz |
| 06:21.59 | Ver | on the Memory and Core |
| 06:22.09 | Ver | well if there is a nVidia equivilant, use that :P |
| 06:22.29 | Ver | anywh0re im off to bed |
| 06:22.52 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30162 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: BossBlock: Optimized the isspam method slightly. |
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| 06:23.34 | chuckg | Ahh there is a display driver. |
| 06:23.39 | chuckg | Err, reset display driver. |
| 06:23.41 | sedatedChipmunk | wow, those buttons sure are...shiny |
| 06:23.42 | chuckg | I'll have to try that next time. |
| 06:24.03 | Ver|Sleep | Up Time~[3wks 3days 14hrs 20mins 31secs]~ |
| 06:24.46 | sedatedChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:25.29 | gxam | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:25.30 | syeren | I love all these videos where BugSack stops tracking errors because too many have been encountered. |
| 06:26.11 | vhaarr | syeren: Yeah. |
| 06:26.37 | Cryect | I'm glad for buggrabber or the amount of errors I would have to deal with would be annoying |
| 06:27.01 | [Ammo] | I have 0 errors on average |
| 06:27.06 | syeren | My UI tends to have 0 errors these days. |
| 06:27.08 | [Ammo] | but then again I try and fix em if I encounter them |
| 06:27.11 | syeren | Ace Devs > All. |
| 06:27.12 | vhaarr | I have one now, because Bagnon started using Dongle. |
| 06:27.15 | vhaarr | And Dongle errors. |
| 06:27.47 | vhaarr | I'm going to smack Tuller next time he comes, maybe he'll fix it. |
| 06:28.37 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm still waiting for an official release of the updated Bagnon. |
| 06:28.45 | Cryect | hmmm there a new version of bagnon? |
| 06:28.56 | ZealotOnAStick | I've still got the last release vBagnon, it's working fine for me, so . . . |
| 06:29.02 | Cryect | yeah same |
| 06:29.15 | vhaarr | I'm using his gcode SVN Bagnon. |
| 06:29.35 | Cryect | Anything new in it? |
| 06:29.36 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, I looked at his svn, but I'm patient enough to wait on it, it doesn't matter much to me. |
| 06:29.47 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got . . . 2 or 3 things that use Dongle already as is. |
| 06:29.49 | Cryect | there seemed to be a few issues in filtering of a fe witems |
| 06:29.56 | Cryect | in the version I have |
| 06:30.43 | vhaarr | The new thing is that the vBagnon category buttons are gone. |
| 06:30.51 | vhaarr | It's basically classic bagnon. |
| 06:30.59 | Cryect | why are the buttons gone? |
| 06:31.03 | vhaarr | And he converted it to Dongle for some reason. |
| 06:31.11 | vhaarr | Cryect: You're asking me? I just use it. |
| 06:31.16 | vhaarr | I never used those buttons anyway. |
| 06:31.19 | Cryect | heh I thought maybe it said somewhere |
| 06:31.39 | chuckg | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27896 |
| 06:31.41 | chuckg | Wow, just got that. |
| 06:31.42 | vhaarr | Just get tekAutoSeller to sell your trash. That was the only button I used. |
| 06:31.44 | chuckg | PVPrape. |
| 06:31.48 | Cryect | I use them when I'm trying to find certain items like quest items and my inventory is unsortedd |
| 06:32.26 | vhaarr | I just use the search then. |
| 06:33.01 | Cryect | Half the time I have no idea what my quest items are but I recall my quest gave me something |
| 06:33.23 | Cryect | of course this would be fixed half the time if I read the actual quest text |
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| 06:48.48 | art3mis | umm if i mmake a scroll frame in a lua do i need to call CreateFrame("ScrollFrame" ? |
| 06:48.56 | art3mis | err lua == xml |
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| 06:57.21 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30163 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: Comm: Slight optimization to the sync rx. |
| 07:02.50 | ckknight | http://www.theonion.com/content/news/florida_man_beats_out_heart |
| 07:03.18 | chuckg | nomenquis, artemis. |
| 07:03.26 | chuckg | If it's defined in XML you do'nt need to create it in LUA. |
| 07:03.27 | Fisker- | theonion.com what a credible news source |
| 07:04.57 | ckknight | Fisker-: it's America's Finest News Source |
| 07:06.15 | Fisker- | :P |
| 07:09.58 | art3mis | bah this sucks |
| 07:10.06 | art3mis | it creates the minion in xml |
| 07:10.22 | art3mis | but for some reason it doesnt wanna adhere to the size limits |
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| 07:15.31 | vhaarr | ckknight: Maybe AceLocale should error if a key is specified twice? |
| 07:15.48 | ckknight | kinda impossible due to the way lua works |
| 07:15.57 | vhaarr | ah, right |
| 07:16.04 | JJSheets | only way to do it would be metatable magic |
| 07:16.10 | JJSheets | and it's probably not worth it. |
| 07:16.23 | vhaarr | yes, nevermind, I see how it's hard, just needed a jostle |
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| 07:35.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Ohhh. Neat but sad start to the final SG1 ep. |
| 07:36.12 | vhaarr | It was the last one? gah |
| 07:36.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, S10E20 is the final SG1 ep. Though there's supposed to be a couple of movies? |
| 07:36.49 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 07:36.57 | ZealotOnAStick | And of course at least another season of Atlantis, and another unnamed series. |
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| 07:38.13 | Fisker- | Well it wasn't supposed to be the final episode until after it was made :P |
| 07:38.34 | Fisker- | I like it sofar though :O |
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| 08:14.39 | ZealotOnAStick | bah. |
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| 08:14.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Little disappointing for me for a final episode. |
| 08:15.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Carter better bring all sorts of Asgard nifties to Atlantis. |
| 08:15.44 | Fisker- | well it was cancelled after it was done |
| 08:15.57 | Fisker- | The movies are supposed to conclude the series |
| 08:17.31 | Fisker- | It's sad they got cancelled though |
| 08:17.39 | Fisker- | they definately should've gotten atleast a season more |
| 08:21.47 | Elkano | SG or SGA? |
| 08:22.00 | Fisker- | SG-1 |
| 08:22.51 | Elkano | well, imho they should have stopped when most of the main crew left :/ |
| 08:25.40 | Fisker- | yeah man what is it with shanks and anderson? :P |
| 08:25.48 | Fisker- | "waah waah, family" |
| 08:25.48 | Fisker- | :P |
| 08:26.05 | Fisker- | season 11 would've probably also have sucked without shanks |
| 08:29.37 | Elkano | well, I havent seen the latest seasons stopped somewhere around the time when Daniel got replaced |
| 08:31.04 | CIA-18 | 03pherl * r30164 10phLayoutLib/: |
| 08:31.04 | CIA-18 | phLayoutLib: |
| 08:31.04 | CIA-18 | - Initial commit, move to wowace |
| 08:31.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Corin Nemec didn't do a bad job, it's just more that the character of Daniel Jackson was too difficult to replace. |
| 08:32.15 | haste | a commit with zero files :) |
| 08:32.25 | [Ammo] | it's tiny and efficient! |
| 08:32.28 | haste | haha |
| 08:32.32 | chuckg | Man, for the life of me I cannot figure out what that little "contesting territory" frame is called. |
| 08:32.33 | [Ammo] | "the goggles, they do nothing" |
| 08:32.48 | ZealotOnAStick | is it not part of AlwaysUpFrame? |
| 08:32.54 | chuckg | When you're contesting a world place, or the EOTS flags. |
| 08:32.59 | haste | I laughed so hard the first time I saw that Simpsons episode :D |
| 08:33.09 | chuckg | AlwaysUpFrame? |
| 08:33.11 | chuckg | Let me look. |
| 08:34.22 | chuckg | AHA |
| 08:34.23 | chuckg | Thank you. |
| 08:34.25 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, and for those who are more on top of this info than I am, what was the deal with Carter ScottishguyDoc's departure? |
| 08:34.28 | chuckg | "WorldStateFrame.xml" |
| 08:35.14 | chuckg | No maybe not :| |
| 08:35.40 | CIA-18 | 03pherl * r30165 10phLayoutLib/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:35.40 | CIA-18 | phLayoutLib: |
| 08:35.40 | CIA-18 | - Add files, set properties |
| 08:36.49 | ZealotOnAStick | err, Carson, not Carter. Beckett. |
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| 08:37.30 | CIA-18 | 03pherl * r30166 10phLayoutLib/phLayout-1.0/phLayout-1.0.lua: |
| 08:37.30 | CIA-18 | phLayoutLib: |
| 08:37.30 | CIA-18 | - Fixed SVN Address |
| 08:37.35 | Bibi`ouF | the ScottishDocguy left ? :( |
| 08:38.08 | Elkano | haste, first commits nowadays are always zero files I think since svn is forcing eol-style to be set which you can't before commiting/creating the folder and checking it out again ;) |
| 08:38.29 | Elkano | at least I didn't succede doing it with TortoiseSVN |
| 08:38.46 | haste | Everything is possible with the commandline! |
| 08:38.48 | Loki|muh | klickibunti sucks :p |
| 08:39.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Grr/ |
| 08:40.12 | haste | /wrists! |
| 08:40.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Go-go production numbers and air numbers differing, thus confusing the hell out of me briefly until I read up on it to find out. |
| 08:40.38 | vhaarr | Elkano: You can. |
| 08:40.48 | vhaarr | Elkano: Read the URL the error gives you. |
| 08:40.49 | ZealotOnAStick | s3e14 aired as s3e17 . . . but I of course watched 14 before 15 now. |
| 08:41.58 | Elkano | btw: when I read that post: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&sid=1&pageNo=12#221 I was wondering: "Is it turing complete?" ... silly ideas... |
| 08:42.34 | chuckg | AHA |
| 08:42.43 | chuckg | CaptureBar_Create(id) |
| 08:43.09 | chuckg | I don't get the ID part... |
| 08:43.11 | chuckg | What in hell. |
| 08:43.23 | chuckg | I guess there's a different one for every location... |
| 08:43.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh. Supposedly going to be replaced by Jewel Staite. Well, ok then. |
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| 08:50.56 | CIA-18 | 03pherl * r30167 10phLayoutLib/phLayoutLib.toc: |
| 08:50.56 | CIA-18 | phLayoutLib: |
| 08:50.56 | CIA-18 | - Add Notes in toc file |
| 08:53.05 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=258335831&sid=1#5 <-i'm back and i'm trolling |
| 08:53.05 | Fisker- | :P |
| 08:53.18 | Fisker- | who's pherl? |
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| 08:55.42 | Elkano | there is one addition I'd really love to see wrt the armory: tradeskills |
| 09:08.18 | Fisker- | yup |
| 09:08.24 | Fisker- | i think it's an obvious coming up though |
| 09:08.48 | Punkie` | hehe at the guy who replied to you Fisker- |
| 09:09.01 | Fisker- | :P |
| 09:09.10 | Punkie` | 'sarcrasm' haha |
| 09:09.21 | Fisker- | because i wasn't being sarcastic at all! |
| 09:10.56 | Punkie` | I hate shaman loot |
| 09:16.19 | Tekkub | oh I just had a wonderful idea to expand KMFDM |
| 09:16.30 | haste | random threath values? |
| 09:16.44 | Tekkub | have it monitor addon chat for all the "main" addons that guilds try to impose on people |
| 09:16.45 | haste | like... math.huge |
| 09:16.51 | Tekkub | remember the highest version seen |
| 09:16.59 | Tekkub | and report that back on any query |
| 09:17.09 | haste | hehe |
| 09:17.26 | Tekkub | of course I have the latest version of that mod! |
| 09:17.37 | Tekkub | I don't know why you think it doesn't work |
| 09:17.40 | vhaarr | what the hell is KFFDM |
| 09:17.44 | vhaarr | KM* |
| 09:17.56 | Tekkub | you know KLHTM? |
| 09:18.07 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 09:18.19 | Tekkub | KMFDM spoofs version replys |
| 09:18.19 | vhaarr | I made BigWigs_KLHTMTarget back in the day to silence the whiners |
| 09:18.35 | vhaarr | oh, so like oRA2 does for CTRA? |
| 09:18.40 | Tekkub | no |
| 09:18.48 | Tekkub | oRA actually provides a replacement |
| 09:18.54 | vhaarr | yes |
| 09:18.58 | Tekkub | KMFDM just makes them think you have it |
| 09:19.03 | vhaarr | but it tells CTRA users that you are using CTRA when you're not |
| 09:19.06 | vhaarr | which is what I meant |
| 09:19.15 | Tekkub | yes in that sense |
| 09:19.18 | vhaarr | right |
| 09:19.20 | vhaarr | cool |
| 09:19.22 | Tekkub | no on the "functional" level |
| 09:19.39 | vhaarr | so does it just report random threat data then? |
| 09:19.44 | vhaarr | :P |
| 09:19.46 | Tekkub | plus KMFDM is a lil mini joke for the few that get it |
| 09:19.56 | vhaarr | I'm not ashamed to say I don't get it |
| 09:19.58 | Tekkub | no, been thinking about it though |
| 09:20.02 | vhaarr | but I don't know what KLHTM means either |
| 09:20.32 | Tekkub | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMFDM |
| 09:20.44 | vhaarr | :) |
| 09:20.47 | Tekkub | KLH (whatever that is) Threat Meter |
| 09:20.50 | Fisker- | It's kenco and his guild and then threat meter |
| 09:20.52 | Punkie` | surely the raid will get a bit wise when you don't actually report any threat? :P |
| 09:20.53 | Fisker- | i think |
| 09:20.57 | vhaarr | yeah I know TM is threat meter |
| 09:21.02 | vhaarr | it's the KLH that confuses me as well |
| 09:21.27 | vhaarr | or, I assumed it meant "threat meter" |
| 09:21.40 | [Ammo] | klh is probably short for their guild |
| 09:21.41 | Tekkub | kenco licks .... need something vulgar for 'H' |
| 09:21.42 | [Ammo] | or his character |
| 09:21.51 | vhaarr | hey, I just downloaded it, opened their net lua and ripped out the "setmastertarget" thing and made it work with BW |
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| 09:21.57 | vhaarr | other than that, I've never touched the crap |
| 09:22.01 | Fisker- | It's his character and something else |
| 09:22.06 | Fisker- | either the server or the guild |
| 09:22.08 | Fisker- | K = Kenco |
| 09:22.36 | Fisker- | To the armory! |
| 09:22.40 | Tekkub | heh |
| 09:23.15 | vhaarr | Kenco Licks Hungarians imo |
| 09:23.31 | [Ammo] | Hiney! |
| 09:23.35 | Tekkub | Homos |
| 09:23.36 | vhaarr | haha |
| 09:23.56 | Tekkub | Kenco Likes Homosex |
| 09:24.39 | Fisker- | i'm telling! |
| 09:24.44 | Tekkub | hrm... I think that addon just became homo Threat meter |
| 09:24.54 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:25.00 | vhaarr | I'm sure licking hungarians is considered pretty vulgar in bulgaria |
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| 09:25.17 | vhaarr | except they don't border eachother, gah |
| 09:25.28 | Tekkub | Kenco licks hung top midgets? |
| 09:26.06 | vhaarr | "hung top"? |
| 09:26.16 | Tekkub | nevermind |
| 09:26.39 | Tekkub | Kenco likes huge tauren meat |
| 09:27.13 | Tekkub | 3 more hours and I'm gone from this job for good..... |
| 09:27.22 | Tekkub | '*whine* |
| 09:28.22 | Fisker- | well he is a tauren |
| 09:28.29 | Fisker- | what job? :o |
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| 09:51.17 | Pyrrhus | 2 more hours and im on ym way home :) |
| 09:51.55 | Health | NICE |
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| 09:53.30 | vhaarr | ckknight: Seems passing groups bug when the subtypes are type="execute" |
| 09:53.44 | ckknight | odd |
| 09:53.47 | vhaarr | [2007/03/14 10:49:04-2492-x1]: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3094: AceConsole-2.0: ClosetGnome: Option handler "nil" not found.: |
| 09:53.49 | ckknight | bug how? |
| 09:53.59 | Bibi`ouF | anyone know how to extract instance maps from the game ? basically like what cartographer/metamap does ? |
| 09:53.59 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:54.14 | ckknight | Bibi`ouF: I wrote that part of Cartographer. |
| 09:54.31 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/8319 |
| 09:55.12 | Bibi`ouF | oh. well i just need to know how i could get instance minimaps in ... well, in any format photoshop can understand |
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| 09:55.29 | vhaarr | ckknight: This is the option it fails on: http://ace.pastey.net/8320 |
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| 09:57.52 | ckknight | Bibi`ouF: oh, um, complex |
| 09:58.23 | ckknight | Bibi`ouF: basically, you troll the wmo files, read binary data to figure out positioning, then extract the blps from the mpq and piece together like an intricate puzzle |
| 09:58.23 | vhaarr | http://wowdev.org/wiki/index.php/Wowimage ? |
| 09:59.09 | Bibi`ouF | ok ckknight , i'll wait for an awnser from wowmapper, if it doesn't work i'll do the puzzle with a lot of copy and pasting :p |
| 09:59.24 | evl | Any chance Cartographer_Notes will do some rounding operation in the future? When I've shared my db with my guild I now have 9-10 nodes in one spot |
| 09:59.37 | ckknight | evl: it should take care of that |
| 09:59.45 | ckknight | check if a note is within a certain yardage and such |
| 09:59.55 | evl | It works fine for just me but |
| 10:00.08 | evl | Rich Adamantite and Adamantite x 4-5 when sharing with guild |
| 10:00.34 | evl | personally I think it should show the "best" nodetype found at each location so you don't need the duplicate nodes. |
| 10:01.10 | vhaarr | ckknight: Yeah, the proximity check for already existing herb/mining nodes needs to be expanded. |
| 10:01.26 | vhaarr | basically you can pick it from at least 5y in any direction |
| 10:01.27 | evl | maybe a "clean" operation? |
| 10:01.28 | vhaarr | maybe more |
| 10:01.44 | vhaarr | I sometimes get double herb notes when I'm standing at weird angles to avoid mobs |
| 10:01.52 | evl | yeha, that's what I'm getting |
| 10:01.58 | evl | standing down slope to avoid mobs |
| 10:02.38 | vhaarr | Stephmw: Wine? |
| 10:02.43 | ckknight | yea, seems like for stuff like that, it should be at least 20 yd or so to be safe |
| 10:03.16 | Stephmw | vhaarr: sure, I already run WoW with it, but it'd be nice to be able to download the client lua and upload manually |
| 10:03.32 | evl | Atleast within the same type (herb/mining) it can safely be set to 20y |
| 10:04.14 | vhaarr | within the same node type |
| 10:04.28 | vhaarr | there are places where herbs spawn closer than 20y, but not the same type |
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| 10:09.13 | SunTiger | ~doom |
| 10:09.25 | purl | ACTION stalks suntiger, chanting doom on you, doom on you! |
| 10:09.34 | SunTiger | ~emulate gir |
| 10:09.36 | purl | you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way. |
| 10:10.24 | SunTiger | ~emulate gir |
| 10:10.26 | purl | i need tacos! i need tacos or i'll explode. that happens to me sometimes. |
| 10:10.27 | vhaarr | ckknight: think I fixed it there |
| 10:11.43 | Fisker- | anyone know some insane shit about that linux stuff? |
| 10:12.07 | vhaarr | that question makes no sense |
| 10:12.12 | Fisker- | :/ |
| 10:13.23 | Fisker- | Well i just reinstalled ubuntu on a raid with some chroot ( i think :P) and now when i try to update package manager it errors up |
| 10:13.39 | Fisker- | W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock |
| 10:13.39 | Fisker- | W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
| 10:13.39 | Fisker- | E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ |
| 10:13.40 | evl | vhaarr: also in cases of Rich Adamantite/Thorium the best avaiiable node should be listed on the map instead of two overlaping |
| 10:13.40 | Fisker- | like that |
| 10:13.51 | ckknight | vhaarr: figured it out |
| 10:13.54 | ckknight | vhaarr: you fixed it? |
| 10:13.57 | vhaarr | evl: don't tell me, I didn't make it |
| 10:13.59 | vhaarr | ckknight: yeah |
| 10:14.03 | ckknight | oh |
| 10:14.05 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 10:14.07 | vhaarr | ckknight: at least I think so, read the diff |
| 10:14.15 | vhaarr | cool |
| 10:14.36 | ckknight | yea, looks good |
| 10:16.12 | vhaarr | sweet |
| 10:20.09 | Stephmw | item db question... how feasible would it be to do a minimax from an item database, on a per-stat basis? |
| 10:20.24 | Stephmw | (leaving aside the how to get a comprehensive db in the first place) |
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| 10:22.57 | CIA-18 | 03pherl * r30170 10phLayoutLib/phLayoutLib.toc: |
| 10:22.57 | CIA-18 | phLayoutLib: |
| 10:22.57 | CIA-18 | - Modify toc file try to fixed wiki display bug... |
| 10:23.48 | vhaarr | Stephmw: Depends how picky you are. |
| 10:24.02 | austerity | earlier lin question was quite amuseing |
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| 10:25.53 | Stephmw | vhaarr: what I have in mind is the following usecase: |
| 10:26.23 | Stephmw | vhaarr: find me equipment alternatives, levels 60-65, biased for +dmg |
| 10:26.25 | vhaarr | Stephmw: Maybe you should go read the code of addons that do similar things already first. |
| 10:26.34 | vhaarr | I'm not going to code it for you. |
| 10:26.47 | Stephmw | I'm not thinking of doing this as an addon :) |
| 10:27.13 | [Ammo] | then make a wowhead extractor, and put it all in a database and run queries |
| 10:27.19 | [Ammo] | or soemething |
| 10:27.39 | knarf | christ i've become lazy finally "summer" decide to rollerscate to school, was hard ^^ |
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| 10:28.17 | evl | lollerscate |
| 10:28.49 | austerity | lol |
| 10:29.02 | CIA-18 | 03pherl * r30171 10phLayoutLib/phLayoutLib.toc: |
| 10:29.02 | CIA-18 | phLayoutLib: |
| 10:29.02 | CIA-18 | - Fixed toc to meet wiki needs again |
| 10:30.16 | Stephmw | [Ammo]: that's the approach I was thinking of |
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| 10:30.30 | Stephmw | [Ammo]: wonder if any of the db sites would actually make their data available that way |
| 10:31.42 | vhaarr | Stephmw: Why do you think he said "wowhead", specifically? |
| 10:31.58 | vhaarr | Stephmw: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PeriodicTable-3.0/dataminer.lua |
| 10:33.11 | Stephmw | vhaarr: granted, although that's not the same as asking for a database dump ;) but I get the idea |
| 10:33.24 | vhaarr | yes it is |
| 10:33.39 | Stephmw | that's just scraping their html |
| 10:34.02 | vhaarr | there's no difference |
| 10:34.06 | sylvanaar | anyone know where i can find info on the UD racial leader? ie. what attacks to expect etc |
| 10:34.16 | vhaarr | whether you get the data from XML or HTML, the data is the same |
| 10:34.22 | sylvanaar | shes got a good show btw |
| 10:34.28 | vhaarr | it's *exactly* the same as a database dump |
| 10:34.36 | xlvii | eeek.. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27519 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27423? i have both with +12 agility. |
| 10:34.50 | Stephmw | vhaarr: I don't agree - with XML or even an SQL dump, you get metadata, row types, relations, storage. With an HTML dump, you have to reconstruct these |
| 10:35.09 | ZealotOnAStick | sylvanaar: Lady Sylvanas? |
| 10:35.12 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 10:35.19 | vhaarr | Stephmw: I don't see how it matters for the data you want. |
| 10:35.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Adds. Lots, and lots, and lots of adds. |
| 10:35.25 | sylvanaar | xhtml is the answer |
| 10:35.36 | sylvanaar | oh really? |
| 10:35.48 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 10:35.51 | vhaarr | lots of adds on her |
| 10:35.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Plus she melees for quite a lot, and unless you contain things -extremely- well, Varimathras will join in. |
| 10:35.55 | sylvanaar | how many people are needed once you have secured the throne room |
| 10:36.15 | ZealotOnAStick | I dunno, I've never seen anyone kill her, though I've watched them die trying. |
| 10:36.17 | vhaarr | I've never done it at 70, but we raided it with 40 on level 60, and that went fine. |
| 10:36.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Now, I know people've done it. |
| 10:36.31 | Stephmw | vhaarr: the bulk data is the same, but the usecase of searching through all of it is better accomplished if it's well structured. Not to mention that scraping makes updating your dataset a hassle |
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| 10:36.56 | Stephmw | vhaarr: having the whole thing in a local, embedded sql database (notice I don't talk about Lua here), makes it easier to search |
| 10:37.06 | vhaarr | Stephmw: Right, so create one, then. |
| 10:37.36 | [Ammo] | updating the dataset is easy too |
| 10:37.41 | [Ammo] | you have a unique key per item |
| 10:37.47 | [Ammo] | aka the itemID |
| 10:37.52 | [Ammo] | scrape the pages, get the data, update the data |
| 10:37.55 | Stephmw | right. how do you know if it's changed? |
| 10:37.59 | Stephmw | you need to re-scrape |
| 10:38.02 | [Ammo] | by scraping it |
| 10:38.06 | Stephmw | that's wasteful |
| 10:38.19 | [Ammo] | well then write your own dataminer to mine the items from wow :) |
| 10:38.28 | [Ammo] | you will run into the same problem |
| 10:38.33 | vhaarr | it's not wasteful, it's the only solution we have, so either use it or don't |
| 10:39.19 | [Ammo] | or convince wowhead to publish an rss feed with updated stuff :) |
| 10:39.30 | vhaarr | or make an XML-RPC API |
| 10:39.43 | vhaarr | which is, like, really simple |
| 10:39.46 | Stephmw | vhaarr, [Ammo]: I'm not arguing I don't use it, just that it's a shame we have to do it this way |
| 10:39.52 | Stephmw | *won't |
| 10:40.01 | Stephmw | right, agreed on the last 3 statements :) |
| 10:40.05 | vhaarr | Stephmw: yeah, but we don't really care about discussing it |
| 10:40.24 | Stephmw | vhaarr: I'll stop then, but thank you for the feedback |
| 10:40.34 | Stephmw | [Ammo]: and you too |
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| 11:20.50 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30172 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/ (Data.lua InstanceMaps.lua Scripts/pack.lua): |
| 11:20.50 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_InstanceMaps - now compresses the data into a much smaller fashion, and due to table hacks with lua, the end result, uncompressed, is actually smaller than before. |
| 11:20.50 | CIA-18 | Each line is commented with what the uncompressed contents are, to make it just as easy to work with, so it shouldn't be a big problem. |
| 11:20.52 | CIA-18 | Note: the entire Data.lua file should be reworked. |
| 11:21.14 | ckknight | hooray for efficiency, eh? |
| 11:21.19 | fatbrain | What exactly does Dracul addon do? |
| 11:22.22 | CIA-18 | 03trh * r30173 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoSLocals.lua modules/Synchronizer.lua): VanasKoS: fixed party syncing |
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| 11:26.27 | vhaarr | ckknight: I just had to run in circles around a herb to avoid a giant, and it gave me 3 notes for the same spawn :P |
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| 11:26.51 | ckknight | hrm |
| 11:27.07 | vhaarr | perhaps I can fix it myself, I'll just have to dig more than someone who knows the codebase already |
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| 11:37.23 | ckknight | Once upon a time I was falling in love |
| 11:37.29 | ckknight | But now I'm only falling apart |
| 11:37.38 | ckknight | There's nothing I can do |
| 11:37.38 | Groll | emo ;P |
| 11:37.45 | ckknight | A total eclipse of the heart |
| 11:38.00 | Groll | ooh what is that song again.. |
| 11:38.19 | Groll | ooh haha now i know.. that movie on youtube :P |
| 11:39.00 | evl | Hurra Torpedo ;) |
| 11:39.03 | evl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIaz6zBz1go |
| 11:39.38 | Groll | yay that's it :D |
| 11:43.04 | Loki|muh | great :) |
| 11:43.15 | Bibi`ouF | anyone know if Blizzard changed something in the armory ? |
| 11:43.33 | Bibi`ouF | Antiarc guild tools don't work anymore :/ |
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| 11:45.45 | vhaarr | People have to log in after the maintenance. |
| 11:45.57 | Groll | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuZwnC9rB-A&mode=related&search= hehe another hurra torpedo :D |
| 11:46.29 | Loki|muh | The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. |
| 11:46.35 | Loki|muh | armory.wow-europe.com |
| 11:48.02 | Bibi`ouF | yeah, i just figured it out by trying an US guild request |
| 11:48.09 | Bibi`ouF | that's weird because i could access my profile on wow-europe |
| 11:48.11 | Bibi`ouF | anyway, thanks |
| 11:48.33 | Groll | evl loooool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSP2ikbMwsI&mode=related&search= |
| 11:49.06 | |Pixel| | 12:43 < Bibi`ouF> anyone know if Blizzard changed something in the armory ? |
| 11:49.09 | Groll | it's called norge! o_O |
| 11:49.10 | |Pixel| | yes, definitively |
| 11:50.19 | |Pixel| | and it will get even worse after website maintenance scheduled in a few hours |
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| 11:51.01 | evl | Groll: du sier ikke det du :P |
| 11:51.11 | sbu | morning |
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| 11:57.12 | Fisker- | I wonder what they'll put in(i.e. screw up) |
| 11:57.35 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30174 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Bugfix. |
| 11:57.53 | |Pixel| | no no |
| 11:57.58 | |Pixel| | nothing new is going in the code |
| 11:58.09 | Fisker- | :< |
| 11:58.20 | Fisker- | I WANT RAEPS TIME |
| 11:59.29 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30175 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0: Bugfix. |
| 11:59.34 | vhaarr | err, oops |
| 12:00.29 | vhaarr | ckknight: I mistakedly committed a change to AceComm so that if AceComm.enableLookback is set, messages sent on the addon channel will be recieved by the player as well. |
| 12:00.39 | vhaarr | ckknight: Want me to revert that or is it no problem? |
| 12:00.41 | JoshBorke | revert? |
| 12:00.46 | JoshBorke | lol, "err, oops" |
| 12:00.52 | ckknight | ah, revert |
| 12:01.00 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 12:01.10 | ckknight | meh, don't worry about it |
| 12:01.17 | vhaarr | alright |
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| 12:02.13 | trh | couldn't that break some addons? |
| 12:02.49 | sbu | hmmm - new SM instance maps are nice |
| 12:02.56 | trh | ah.. ok.. if it's not set then not |
| 12:03.23 | sbu | but still wtb bigger karazhan maps (if it's possible :o) |
| 12:04.21 | phyber | sbu: just set the Cartographer scale to HEUG when you want to see them :p |
| 12:04.45 | sbu | oh... |
| 12:04.48 | sbu | k l) |
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| 12:07.14 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30176 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Bugfix. |
| 12:07.53 | JoshBorke | there was a bug in buggrabber? |
| 12:08.08 | vhaarr | very small one |
| 12:08.12 | vhaarr | rare |
| 12:08.45 | vhaarr | but yes, obviously, or I wouldn't do a commit named "bugfix" |
| 12:12.49 | Fisker- | i would |
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| 12:16.26 | vhaarr | haha |
| 12:16.29 | vhaarr | okay then |
| 12:16.32 | haste | Fisker-: but you like mudkips, so no wonder |
| 12:16.57 | Fisker- | right :( |
| 12:18.29 | phyber | my hilighter went off, did someone say mudkips!? |
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| 12:29.46 | Punkie` | mmmm mudkips |
| 12:30.15 | Punkie` | haste zip your addons dir! |
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| 12:30.43 | Punkie` | hehe |
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| 12:35.07 | vhaarr | Finally! Discovered Flask of Fortification. |
| 12:35.33 | MoonWolf | bastard |
| 12:35.43 | MoonWolf | the only flask i found was ARCANE fortification |
| 12:35.44 | vhaarr | :D |
| 12:35.47 | vhaarr | lol |
| 12:36.04 | MoonWolf | also known as flask of nobody wants it. |
| 12:36.17 | sbu | mhpf |
| 12:36.22 | MoonWolf | 75 arcane res and 40 hp/5 |
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| 12:36.35 | sbu | havent seen any discovery here (4-5 players) |
| 12:36.38 | sbu | sucks... |
| 12:36.49 | Codayus | I saw someone discover something in IF once... |
| 12:36.59 | Codayus | Nobody in my guild has discovered anything though. :-/ |
| 12:37.01 | sbu | vhaarr: just random or is there anything you can do? |
| 12:37.01 | MoonWolf | although its fun that it happend |
| 12:37.07 | Codayus | And that's, cumulatively, a LOT of freaking pots. |
| 12:37.09 | MoonWolf | was bulk making 50 super health potions. |
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| 12:37.35 | Codayus | I soooo wish someone on guild had either the mp5 of hp/def one... |
| 12:38.02 | Codayus | But at this point? I'd be happy if someone discovered arcane fort. :-) |
| 12:38.07 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 12:38.12 | vhaarr | sbu: random |
| 12:38.16 | sbu | meh :/ |
| 12:38.21 | sbu | wtb 70mp5 flask |
| 12:38.27 | vhaarr | yeah give |
| 12:39.38 | Codayus | Hmm, a guildie was asking me if I'd heard of a mod that tracked which raid members were within a certain range of you. Supposed to help on Gruul, Ony, Curator, whatever. Anyone heard of something like that? |
| 12:41.55 | evl | Codayus: Vendetta Boss Mods |
| 12:42.15 | Codayus | Mmm. Joy. |
| 12:42.29 | kenlyric | it's not called that anymore. |
| 12:42.38 | evl | googleit. |
| 12:42.57 | kenlyric | but yeah, there's a module in those boss mods that does that. |
| 12:42.57 | Fisker- | Anyone know where i can get a default ubuntu 6.06 sources.lst? |
| 12:43.31 | trh | i'd guess in the apt-get apt-get package |
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| 12:44.33 | vhaarr | Codayus: BigWigs_CThunAssist does that as well. |
| 12:45.02 | vhaarr | Not sure what range you need, though. |
| 12:45.17 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 12:47.01 | Ordog | hi, is there a way to tell XArt to ignore the minimap position? its always attaching the minimap to itself (setting position so that it matches the loaded art |
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| 12:47.45 | cncfanatics | yo all :) |
| 12:47.56 | CIA-18 | 03kodewulf * r30177 10Cartographer_Vendors/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:47.56 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 12:47.56 | CIA-18 | - Version 1 initial import |
| 12:47.58 | cncfanatics | ~seen JJSheets |
| 12:48.22 | purl | jjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 32m 12s ago, saying: 'and it's probably not worth it.'. |
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| 12:53.35 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30178 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism: Increase the radius when scanning for nearby nodes to 20 from 8. If it's too large, please let me (or someone) know. |
| 12:54.38 | CIA-18 | 03kodewulf * r30179 10Cartographer_Vendors/: |
| 12:54.38 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 12:54.38 | CIA-18 | - Updated externals |
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| 13:03.41 | CIA-18 | 03kodewulf * r30180 10Cartographer_Trainers/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:03.41 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 13:03.41 | CIA-18 | - Version 1 initial import |
| 13:06.01 | CIA-18 | 03kodewulf * r30181 10Cartographer_Trainers/: |
| 13:06.01 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 13:06.02 | CIA-18 | - Added externals |
| 13:06.02 | CIA-18 | - Added commit log template |
| 13:06.51 | Fisker- | Lol he got back? |
| 13:07.13 | Fisker- | aka came back |
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| 13:14.23 | Hjalte | Who should i ask regarding a question about the Cartographer instance loot module? |
| 13:16.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Fisker-, woo I guess |
| 13:17.22 | Hjalte | Well, I'm having the problem that the "Hide low droprate items" slider seems to be not working and I'm wondering if the author of the module is aware of it :) |
| 13:17.43 | Kirkburn|afk | ckk or funkydude it seems |
| 13:17.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Going by the commits at least |
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| 13:18.08 | [Ammo] | commits mean little |
| 13:18.19 | [Ammo] | but posting on forums might get someone's attention |
| 13:18.41 | Kirkburn|afk | They're the only two who have committed to it in the last 2 days anyway |
| 13:18.58 | Hjalte | I've tried that, but the main cartographer thread seems to have all kind of posts. And I dont see the problem as big enough for a seperate thread :) |
| 13:19.58 | [Ammo] | it's a problem in a seperate module |
| 13:20.09 | [Ammo] | if someone doesn't like it the moderator wil close it :p |
| 13:20.28 | Kirkburn|afk | How is it that people create lists on their addons? |
| 13:20.32 | Kirkburn|afk | *of |
| 13:21.26 | [Ammo] | dir |
| 13:21.27 | [Ammo] | :) |
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| 13:24.41 | Kirkburn|afk | ach, too easy |
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| 13:42.53 | CIA-18 | 03jerry * r30182 10Talented_Data/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Talented_Data: Separation of enUS and enGB. Updates to talent descriptions. |
| 13:52.31 | Hjalte | Has anyone found out what addon causes the "Block trades" option in my Blizzard settings to be on, everytime i log in? |
| 13:54.08 | vhaarr | Try resetting your Postal settings, change the CVar and then start WoW. |
| 13:54.28 | vhaarr | Postal used to do that, but now it shouldn't any more, but if your settings are wrong, maybe it still does. |
| 13:54.45 | CIA-18 | 03next96 * r30183 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua: |
| 13:54.45 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Trainers : |
| 13:54.45 | CIA-18 | - Update locale koKR |
| 13:54.47 | Hjalte | Change the cvar..? Will deleting the postal folder in my saved variables do? |
| 13:55.04 | vhaarr | yes |
| 13:55.15 | vhaarr | and then changed the setting in Config.wtf |
| 13:55.28 | Hjalte | Okay, I'll try that. Thanks :) |
| 13:58.44 | moonsorrow | hm.. who wrote the check for the rare mining nodes in carto mining? |
| 13:58.47 | Hjalte | chuckg, your moveframe addon seems to make me unable to a tradeskill and a trade window open at the same time. Is this correct? |
| 14:01.20 | moonsorrow | is only kagara responsible for the whole module? |
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| 14:03.41 | Fisker- | It is to fap for |
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| 14:14.00 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Vendors : |
| 14:14.00 | CIA-18 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 14:23.04 | _neuron_ | hmpf.. made a little mod to show the time between spellcast_sent and spellcast_start, in shatrath I got 0.3 sec delay on spells, in hellfire I got 0.05, could that be fps related? Or could it be something else? |
| 14:26.06 | Tornhoof | lag |
| 14:26.32 | Tornhoof | go try it in some empty instance |
| 14:29.07 | _neuron_ | that's the thing, I dont think it is lag, I think it's either my mods or my fps that's the problem, I'm testing with another account at the same computer (2x clients), and without any mods that's never lagging. |
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| 14:30.02 | vhaarr | mods shouldn't really affect it now, since spell casting is only done from secure frames |
| 14:30.22 | _neuron_ | mods sending data in combat could affect it couldn't it? |
| 14:30.38 | abbat_w | guys, anyone here is expirienced with macros? |
| 14:31.04 | abbat_w | it is possible to create macro which exchange my current target and my focus target? |
| 14:33.09 | _neuron_ | argh.. if I'm around outside a city I get 0.05 sec average delay on my casting, in shatrath I get 0.35, wouldn't bother me normally but I realized in instances I sometimes get a 0.5 sec delay on my dots, which is driving me nuts. |
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| 14:52.49 | CIA-18 | 03next96 * r30187 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua: |
| 14:52.49 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Trainers : |
| 14:52.49 | CIA-18 | - Update locale koKR |
| 14:52.49 | CIA-18 | - typo fix :) |
| 14:54.52 | sbu | *snif* last sg1 eps :/ |
| 14:55.44 | Loki|muh | lol blizzard wants to work on the hunter |
| 14:56.02 | Loki|muh | that will be exciting :) |
| 14:56.10 | sbu | well btw - mage invisibility is overpowered :/ |
| 14:56.51 | sbu | arena: 2 mages, invisible, trinket + pom -> instant pyro on 1 target -> 100% dead |
| 14:58.58 | Loki|muh | is invisibility a mage-talent? |
| 14:59.11 | ilifin | mage ABILITY |
| 14:59.53 | abbat_w | trainable at 68 lvl |
| 14:59.59 | abbat_w | but it's not overpower ;) |
| 15:00.09 | Fisker- | can't you also interrupt it? |
| 15:00.19 | Loki|muh | uh thats not bad |
| 15:00.24 | Barbanus | yes, and a warlock can also see through it |
| 15:00.26 | ilifin | sure but you can't interrupt people if they fire it the moment they enter the arena |
| 15:00.33 | Fisker- | oh |
| 15:00.38 | Fisker- | arena-wise :) |
| 15:00.45 | sbu | ilifin: yep |
| 15:00.46 | Fisker- | buy invisibillity potions then |
| 15:00.49 | Fisker- | they're instant |
| 15:00.52 | sbu | hm ;o |
| 15:00.58 | sbu | not working i guess |
| 15:00.58 | Barbanus | detect invis = see the mage at like 20 yards |
| 15:01.02 | ilifin | can't use pots in arena, Fisker- |
| 15:01.05 | Loki|muh | but mainly for pvp... i do not see a point for invisibility in pve |
| 15:01.05 | Fisker- | oh |
| 15:01.05 | sbu | yep |
| 15:01.06 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:01.13 | Fisker- | threat reduction |
| 15:01.16 | Fisker- | or threat dump |
| 15:01.22 | Barbanus | Loki|muh, its a threat wipe |
| 15:01.24 | ilifin | completely removes all threat like vanish |
| 15:01.27 | Codayus | Invisibility = chance at avoiding a repair bill during a wipe |
| 15:01.28 | Loki|muh | usable infight? |
| 15:01.32 | ilifin | yes |
| 15:01.32 | Loki|muh | thats nice |
| 15:01.36 | ilifin | 5 sec cast |
| 15:01.39 | Barbanus | 5 sec cast, removes threat every sec or something |
| 15:01.40 | ilifin | or well "cast" |
| 15:01.45 | Loki|muh | like feign death for hunter |
| 15:01.45 | Barbanus | 100% on the 5th 2nd |
| 15:01.49 | Barbanus | 20% a sec |
| 15:02.00 | Barbanus | if that makes any fucking sense |
| 15:02.05 | abbat_w | instant cast |
| 15:02.06 | Barbanus | I haven't had coffee yet |
| 15:02.15 | abbat_w | after cast in 5 sec period you reduce threat |
| 15:02.19 | sbu | Barbanus: and if you dont have a lock in your team? :/ |
| 15:02.31 | abbat_w | after 5 sec you got completly invisible and run out of combat |
| 15:02.50 | Barbanus | abbat_w, no it reduces by 20% a second .. if you are hit in the middle, you still get partial threat reduction |
| 15:03.01 | abbat_w | but after cast in 5 sec period mage looks like priest in fade |
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| 15:03.13 | abbat_w | Barbanus, yep, i'm mage ;) |
| 15:03.23 | abbat_w | each second -20% threat |
| 15:03.30 | abbat_w | after 5 sec - out of combat |
| 15:03.37 | abbat_w | and btw it's usable in fights |
| 15:03.38 | Barbanus | yep |
| 15:03.55 | abbat_w | you can cast invis, wait 2 sec and start cast fireball for example (3 sec cast) |
| 15:04.07 | Barbanus | and .. its not a "cast" |
| 15:04.10 | Barbanus | its instant |
| 15:04.11 | abbat_w | after cast end, fireball leave you, you out of combat ;) |
| 15:04.15 | Barbanus | so you can cast it .. and run |
| 15:04.25 | Barbanus | as long as you dont cast again, or get hit .. it will work |
| 15:04.42 | ilifin | it's a 5 second buff, kinda |
| 15:04.46 | Barbanus | yea |
| 15:04.50 | ilifin | once the buff fades, so do you |
| 15:04.59 | abbat_w | you can cast under invis, it's ok, but if you finish casting - invis fade from you |
| 15:05.10 | Barbanus | yea |
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| 15:07.11 | JoshBorke | way to break stuff vhaar |
| 15:07.18 | vhaarr | lol |
| 15:07.27 | vhaarr | type(...) == "version", what the fuck was I thinking |
| 15:07.38 | JoshBorke | rofl |
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| 15:08.16 | krka | interesting implementation of "false" |
| 15:08.27 | vhaarr | haha. yeah |
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| 15:13.16 | Groll | it |
| 15:16.19 | ilifin | vhaarr, you should add sanity checks |
| 15:16.28 | vhaarr | ilifin: To myself or buggrabber? |
| 15:16.30 | ilifin | if x == "version" |
| 15:16.33 | ilifin | then fix |
| 15:16.39 | vhaarr | what? |
| 15:16.53 | ilifin | nvm, funny already lost |
| 15:17.02 | vhaarr | :( |
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| 15:31.37 | Barbanus | ilifin, yes, should definately test the programming language :) |
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| 15:34.45 | sbu | hah, sg1 eps great :) |
| 15:35.32 | ilifin | Barbanus - LUA makes me sad |
| 15:35.45 | ilifin | using % to escape magic characters is :mindboggle: |
| 15:35.47 | JoshBorke | lua makes me happy |
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| 15:37.28 | Antiarc|Work | If I ever create a language, special characters will be escaped with nulls |
| 15:37.45 | JoshBorke | mine'll be escaped with tabs |
| 15:37.47 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: escape everything with whitespace |
| 15:37.48 | pastamancer | escape them with ~ |
| 15:37.57 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd escape them with the letter u |
| 15:37.58 | Tekkub | http://www.furaffinity.net/view/445317/ |
| 15:38.03 | Tekkub | yes furry, but safe |
| 15:38.18 | Antiarc|Work | I was going to say, "furaffinity" doesn't sound like something I want to visit at work. Or at all. |
| 15:38.51 | Stephmw | JoshBorke, Antiarc|Work: whitespace means you can embed another program in there :) http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/ |
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| 15:39.15 | JoshBorke | any priests in here? |
| 15:39.18 | sbu | yep |
| 15:39.22 | JoshBorke | i need some recommendations |
| 15:39.28 | ilifin | reroll |
| 15:39.39 | ilifin | pom nerf lolz! |
| 15:39.46 | Health | I like my priest. |
| 15:39.58 | JoshBorke | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Dagh is my current gear and spec |
| 15:40.00 | sbu | well.. no problem at all (besides its no more uber-pvp ability) |
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| 15:40.58 | JoshBorke | i've only killed midnight/attumen in kara, so no real gear from there and i have not run any heroics |
| 15:41.14 | sbu | hmm heal-priest or disc-dmg? :o |
| 15:41.31 | JoshBorke | disc-dmg but i wanted to be a viable healer also |
| 15:41.32 | sbu | (raiding or pvp?) |
| 15:42.05 | sbu | well - your dmg gear is really nice :o WTB |
| 15:42.07 | JoshBorke | mostly 5 man groups :-D |
| 15:42.22 | sbu | hmhm k |
| 15:42.36 | sbu | well - what recommendations do you need? :o |
| 15:42.38 | JoshBorke | one night we ran bot and arc and i won all but 3 pieces of gear |
| 15:42.44 | JoshBorke | i'm considering switching to shadow |
| 15:42.58 | chutwig | meltface |
| 15:43.02 | chutwig | i love grouping with shadow priests |
| 15:43.06 | chutwig | on both my paladin and my warlock |
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| 15:43.22 | JoshBorke | i run with a tree druid in all my groups |
| 15:43.35 | JoshBorke | so i'm pretty sure that by going shadow i can bring more to the group |
| 15:43.48 | pastamancer | all the druids I know are bears or chickens :( |
| 15:44.01 | JoshBorke | since if i try to do DPS i go OOM faster than you can say innervate :-/ |
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| 15:45.37 | JoshBorke | lately i've been put on MC duty which i find to be tons of fun :-D but it also means i don't do much DPS or much healing. so i think that when/if i go shadow i'll be better for the group overall while not MC'ing |
| 15:46.07 | pastamancer | I love botanica |
| 15:46.07 | shieldb | JoshBorke, if you're talking heroics MC > pretty much everything |
| 15:46.08 | ilifin | shadowpriests are fun |
| 15:46.13 | ilifin | especially in conjuction with shamans |
| 15:46.20 | ilifin | shaman, 3x lock and shadowpriest in one group |
| 15:46.26 | ilifin | recipe for dps disaster |
| 15:46.30 | pastamancer | lol |
| 15:46.34 | JoshBorke | i <3 botanica too. whoever told me to MC the gladiators in SHattered Halls was an idiot :-P |
| 15:47.21 | deltron | MC'ing is fun |
| 15:47.43 | Codayus | Botanica is my new favorite instance. |
| 15:47.44 | ilifin | the amount of people that don't MC the healer mobs in mechanar for the spelldmg buff is mindboggling |
| 15:47.49 | Codayus | MC = so much fun. |
| 15:47.51 | ilifin | botanica is my #1 hated instance |
| 15:48.03 | NightHawkTheSane | I love botanica... |
| 15:48.05 | Ordog | strat bastion runs with two dual wield shamans are fun :) |
| 15:48.05 | pastamancer | you mean the healers in botanics, right? |
| 15:48.06 | ilifin | friggin anti-rogue instances /angryfist |
| 15:48.08 | JoshBorke | sbu: btw, i also have a healing set that is +1k healing and some other good stuff. all blues |
| 15:48.20 | ilifin | ah yea pastamancer |
| 15:48.22 | Codayus | 300 +dmg for 30 minutes? Hot. But the Stewards are even cooler. :-) |
| 15:48.30 | pastamancer | indeed |
| 15:48.34 | JoshBorke | stewards are most definitely my favorite |
| 15:48.40 | pastamancer | I miss the old death and decay though |
| 15:48.44 | sbu | well if you dont plan to do active raid-healing: yep, switch to shadow :o |
| 15:48.45 | pastamancer | that used to be my favorite |
| 15:48.58 | JoshBorke | yea, i haven't run it yet. how is the death and decay nerf? |
| 15:49.16 | pastamancer | it was looking like an initial hit of 2k followed by ticks for 600 |
| 15:49.17 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: death and decay was fun, until you were stuck in it and gibbed in seconds. :P |
| 15:49.19 | JoshBorke | man, that used to be the best part. MC the death and decay guy, then get all the hard hitters to take him down then die in the death and decay |
| 15:49.20 | Codayus | Somehow, I never made it to Botanica before the nerf. :-/ |
| 15:49.31 | Ordog | as a shaman i have to spend at least 100g per week on talent rerolls whenever i want to farm a bit ^^ |
| 15:49.49 | JoshBorke | man, and i have to give up PI too :-/ |
| 15:49.49 | ilifin | which is why you have alts! |
| 15:49.50 | Ordog | so why shouldnt you switch to shadow and back every time you need to |
| 15:50.02 | sbu | and with +1k heal it should be no problem to heal 5-instances... |
| 15:50.02 | Tornhoof | go skill 30/0/31 ordog ;) |
| 15:50.13 | JoshBorke | Ordog: currently as disc i can farm and do DPS :-P |
| 15:50.18 | Ordog | tornhoof, dualwield is so much fun -.- |
| 15:50.18 | JoshBorke | erm, heal |
| 15:50.19 | pastamancer | if you don't get vampiric touch, you're doing yourself a disservice |
| 15:50.40 | Tornhoof | yah but with 30/0/31 you're still a viable healer and farming is fine too |
| 15:50.55 | Ordog | got a lvl59 warrior... maybe i should bring him to 70 for the melee fun ^^ |
| 15:51.11 | NightHawkTheSane | I was thinking of doing 30/0/31, or 40/0/21, when my shaman hits 70. |
| 15:51.14 | pastamancer | I'm leveling a paladin to heal |
| 15:51.17 | deltron | melee sucked before they got rid of that nasty cleave system |
| 15:51.19 | Groll | argh.. what is it you call it when you feel urself to be considered of a lower level citicen kinda.. |
| 15:51.25 | Groll | cant remember the phrase |
| 15:51.34 | NightHawkTheSane | oppressed? |
| 15:51.35 | pastamancer | subhuman? |
| 15:51.37 | Groll | no |
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| 15:51.39 | CIA-18 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.43 | Tornhoof | shaman? |
| 15:51.44 | Groll | somethign secondary or somethign |
| 15:51.48 | Ordog | hehe |
| 15:51.52 | JoshBorke | my paladin is stuck in healing gear at 60. i just can't bring myself to lvl him |
| 15:51.52 | pastamancer | second-class citizen |
| 15:51.56 | Groll | Tornhoof ;P that's exactly what i'm trying to make a post about :P |
| 15:51.59 | Groll | thanks pastamancer :) |
| 15:52.18 | pastamancer | I'm leveling prot |
| 15:52.24 | deltron | heh I'm kinda bored on my shaman |
| 15:52.30 | deltron | specced him 0/0/61 :) |
| 15:52.52 | Tornhoof | heh most are bored with shamans |
| 15:53.04 | Codayus | I'm enjoying my shaman! Of course, he just hit 20, so um...yeah... |
| 15:53.14 | Tornhoof | unless you're lucky and have some enh/ele raiding spot |
| 15:53.14 | Codayus | .....still...zomg ghost wolf? |
| 15:53.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not bored with my shaman yet. *shrug* |
| 15:53.23 | ilifin | my shaman's 52! |
| 15:53.29 | JoshBorke | hrm, someone give me a good shadow spec... |
| 15:53.29 | ilifin | atm zerging BRD arena with a druid |
| 15:53.29 | deltron | I'd love to raid elemental |
| 15:53.34 | NightHawkTheSane | I am, however, bored with my warrior |
| 15:53.36 | Groll | RETARD FORUM!!!!!! |
| 15:53.48 | Groll | i actualyl for once made a good post and the freaking forum eats it!!! |
| 15:53.54 | Ordog | specced 0 0 61 that one time when a healer was needed for karazhan ... did more healing and less overheal than the main priest... damn me! from then on they asked me to heal every raid ^^ |
| 15:53.59 | shieldb | deltron, elemental is awesome in a raid as long as you have a shadowpriest or something to help with your mana |
| 15:54.06 | cncfanatics | ~seen JJSheets |
| 15:54.26 | purl | jjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 38m 16s ago, saying: 'and it's probably not worth it.'. |
| 15:54.26 | deltron | shieldb: I don't have much of a mana issue elemental to tell you the truth |
| 15:54.27 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?000000000000000000000230500000000000000000503252210251123051551 is what I roll with |
| 15:54.27 | ilifin | the changes to shaman clearcasting in 2.0.10 were awesome imo |
| 15:54.32 | deltron | ilifin: yep |
| 15:54.51 | deltron | not to mention the threat reduction |
| 15:55.32 | deltron | heh double the aggro on a LO proc was bad |
| 15:55.33 | JoshBorke | i heard a rumor that vamp touch was bugged in that it might be causing too much threat ala the GBoW bug |
| 15:56.02 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5214.new#new |
| 15:56.11 | Industrial | another one bites the dust, ahh :) |
| 15:56.14 | Fisker- | healing as paladins are fun :P |
| 15:56.21 | pastamancer | well, post-patch, as I get more +dmg from gear or buffs I just MB less and MF more |
| 15:56.29 | Fisker- | in 5-man you're almost never gonna go out of mana |
| 15:56.53 | Industrial | on a second thought i better edit that post |
| 15:57.02 | Codayus | Fisker-: Mmm, neither does my priest... :-) |
| 15:57.05 | JoshBorke | naw, that looks good indy |
| 15:57.31 | Fisker- | Your priest doesn't run around with a ~100 dps 2hander and damage gear :P |
| 15:57.33 | Industrial | nah he already said half of what i suggested |
| 15:57.42 | Tekkub | *smites indie anyway |
| 15:57.45 | Industrial | edited. |
| 15:57.53 | Codayus | Fisker-: .....does a 125 dps wand count? :-) |
| 15:58.05 | JoshBorke | what about this? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxrMzhZfZxMgzMtRhtVo |
| 15:58.06 | Industrial | Tekkub: no people should learn to do instead of ask |
| 15:58.14 | Fisker- | nah Codayus :P |
| 15:58.26 | Tekkub | too late already smitten |
| 15:58.29 | Fisker- | I want 2handed wands |
| 15:58.37 | Industrial | *shrug* |
| 15:58.53 | Tekkub | smiting indie is theraputic |
| 15:59.38 | Codayus | JoshBorke: Sorry, haven't specced shadow since lvl 54. :-/ That's not a PvE raiding build though, is it? |
| 15:59.52 | ilifin | shadow is if your group has a clue |
| 16:00.03 | CIA-18 | 03gamefaq * r30190 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua: |
| 16:00.03 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 16:00.03 | CIA-18 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.09 | ilifin | shadowpriest manabattery is _very_ handy |
| 16:00.15 | Industrial | JoshBorke: can you use Renew in shadow form? |
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| 16:00.20 | Codayus | Industrial: no. |
| 16:00.20 | JoshBorke | no |
| 16:00.30 | Industrial | then put those points into something else? :P |
| 16:00.35 | JoshBorke | but i have +1k healing gear in case i need to heal |
| 16:00.46 | JoshBorke | so i figured i should double teh amount my renew heals |
| 16:00.53 | shieldb | JoshBorke, http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&n=Resurector is our main shadowpriest |
| 16:01.06 | Codayus | JoshBorke: Well, without shadow affinity, DPSing in a raid is going to be...exciting, no? |
| 16:01.20 | Fisker- | I hope they never fix that you can fly upside down |
| 16:01.38 | Codayus | ilifin: I <3 shadow priests in raids. Unfortunatly, we have...one. And she doesn't raid much. :-( |
| 16:01.57 | deltron | we have 2 shadow priests |
| 16:02.03 | Stephmw | Codayus: give her more love ;) |
| 16:02.14 | Tekkub | love her hard and fast |
| 16:02.21 | deltron | hit it from behind |
| 16:02.23 | deltron | oh wai... |
| 16:02.56 | Codayus | Heh |
| 16:03.07 | Industrial | Tekkub: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5075.new#new |
| 16:03.41 | Industrial | Tekkub: locky locky pls admin boi ;x? |
| 16:03.50 | Tekkub | boi? no |
| 16:03.53 | JoshBorke | fuel to the fire! |
| 16:03.56 | JoshBorke | add fuel to the fire! |
| 16:04.14 | Industrial | Tekkub: No, I mean like waterboy =D |
| 16:04.33 | Tekkub | even better than a lock :) |
| 16:04.37 | Tekkub | refresh |
| 16:04.53 | Industrial | heh |
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| 16:05.22 | Tekkub | damnit indie, I just about got wine all over my panels |
| 16:05.39 | Tekkub | Haikus are easy |
| 16:05.39 | Tekkub | But sometimes they don't make sense |
| 16:05.39 | Tekkub | Refrigerator |
| 16:06.00 | Industrial | :D |
| 16:10.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Refrigerator? I hardly know her... |
| 16:10.43 | Groll | Tornhoof http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=260746270&postId=2606628689&sid=1#0 |
| 16:10.51 | Groll | and industrial.. time to get jealous.. |
| 16:10.56 | Groll | i'm gonna watch das boot :D |
| 16:11.26 | Fisker- | i'm doing quests!!!!!!!! |
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| 16:12.40 | Industrial | I'm.... moving stuff around on my screen. |
| 16:12.43 | Industrial | no, addons. |
| 16:13.16 | Fisker- | ok |
| 16:13.43 | Fisker- | i've earned 5000g on quests and loot since level 1 |
| 16:14.17 | Punkie` | gratsmate |
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| 16:15.42 | Industrial | and it currently looks liiiiiike |
| 16:16.00 | Industrial | *waits for imagebin* |
| 16:16.20 | Industrial | http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/4280/wowscrnshot031407171425rr7.jpg |
| 16:16.20 | Industrial | that |
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| 16:16.36 | art3mis | it does it once when i restart my client vhaarr you bastard |
| 16:16.52 | Industrial | art3mis: :D? |
| 16:17.04 | art3mis | kickde me for my autoaway message |
| 16:17.10 | art3mis | ;) |
| 16:17.37 | Loki|muh | Industrial: nice, so clean :) |
| 16:18.06 | Punkie` | shame you are going to get a lot more buttons in a good few levels :> |
| 16:19.09 | Industrial | Punkie`: yeah |
| 16:19.14 | CIA-18 | 03gamefaq * r30191 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua: |
| 16:19.14 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 16:19.14 | CIA-18 | - Changed some deDE spellings to be same like in Cartographer_Vendors |
| 16:19.18 | Industrial | what i'd really like is to show 6 buttons wich change pages when you press shift/alt/ctrl, they dont now. I'd place them on top of my unitframes (and they fit perfectly) |
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| 16:19.50 | Punkie` | sounds cool, but a clicker :( |
| 16:19.50 | Industrial | but I dont want something as big as bt3 just for 6 buttons |
| 16:19.53 | Industrial | me no |
| 16:20.28 | Industrial | I use the keyboard, but now I can click too if im lazy - and the cooldowns/ranges show right in the middle too now :P |
| 16:20.42 | Punkie` | ah cool |
| 16:21.22 | Punkie` | I would quite like a 70 paladin tbh, had a level 29 twink one that was holy specced |
| 16:21.34 | Punkie` | 100% non interruptable heals, man i was unkillable |
| 16:21.46 | Punkie` | just beating someone to death with my 1h :P |
| 16:21.52 | Industrial | im gonna go protection I think |
| 16:22.08 | Industrial | lots of blocks + damaging shield seems fun |
| 16:23.09 | Fisker- | penis |
| 16:23.11 | Loki|muh | Industrial: do you use standard unit frames and dragged them only? I wonder where the right lower frame comes from |
| 16:23.25 | Punkie` | yeah, i had the points in redoubt too, got a thorium shield spike vs rogues hehe :) |
| 16:23.44 | Industrial | Im making a post in the forum now explaining it all (+downloads for my own addons :D) |
| 16:23.58 | Loki|muh | Industrial: thanks :) |
| 16:24.22 | Punkie` | Do we get zChat? hihi |
| 16:25.11 | Punkie` | Industrial: Do you only have like, 3-5 lines of chat or something? |
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| 16:28.42 | Industrial | 10 lines |
| 16:29.23 | JoshBorke | spirit tap or blackout? |
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| 16:29.34 | JoshBorke | for 5man |
| 16:29.47 | JoshBorke | i think spirit tap will be better because it gives me access to innervate being useful |
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| 16:30.10 | Industrial | but if you are level 70 you dont get anymore exp right? so will it proc? |
| 16:30.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Industrial: yes. |
| 16:30.20 | Industrial | k |
| 16:30.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Spirit Tap, imo. Good for grinding, and the occasion you get the KB in groups/raids. If you pvp a bunch, blackout is superior, i'd think. |
| 16:32.11 | Industrial | yep |
| 16:32.19 | JoshBorke | k, that's what i thought too |
| 16:32.23 | JoshBorke | i hate PvP :_D |
| 16:32.32 | pastamancer | <3 spirit tap for farming |
| 16:32.34 | Industrial | and you are shadowpriest? nowai :o |
| 16:32.38 | vhaarr | Spirit tap is nice in PvP as well :) |
| 16:32.50 | Industrial | JoshBorke: you should be pwnerizing in pvp :P |
| 16:33.40 | JoshBorke | Industrial: i hate PvP :-P |
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| 16:33.52 | JoshBorke | only reason i'm on a PvP server is it is where i started |
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| 16:35.47 | OverloadUT|Work | I was in the same situation |
| 16:36.16 | Punkie` | What on earth is this thread about: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=260746154&sid=1 |
| 16:36.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, only reason I play on a pvp server is because that's where my friends are. I really dislike pvp. |
| 16:36.40 | Loki|muh | pvp can be funny but if you're not an asshole its mostly not |
| 16:37.42 | Lucifear | i blame denmark Punkie` |
| 16:37.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, I'm not the kind of asshole that finds killing people who are just questing/grinding funny. |
| 16:38.28 | JoshBorke | yea, me neither |
| 16:38.33 | JoshBorke | i only do it now if i'm in a pissy mood |
| 16:38.43 | JoshBorke | or they do it first |
| 16:38.47 | Industrial | well thats world pvp |
| 16:38.51 | Industrial | and thats only fun in groups |
| 16:38.56 | Punkie` | Nothing wrong with watching someone take down the elite that you need for your quest to around 10%, then killing them and retagging it |
| 16:39.05 | Punkie` | :D |
| 16:39.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: I beg to differ. I hope those people die in fires. :) |
| 16:39.22 | Industrial | I find it fun to see a horde of like 50 enemy players charging you |
| 16:39.27 | Industrial | or to be one of them |
| 16:39.33 | OverloadUT|Work | Me and my 5 friends all transferred to a pve server recently :D |
| 16:39.43 | OverloadUT|Work | The amount of fun I have had playing WoW has literally doubled |
| 16:39.47 | vhaarr | OverloadUT: You can transfer from PvP -> PvE now? |
| 16:40.07 | OverloadUT|Work | I've gone and done so many quests in zones that I hated going in before (STV, Winterspring, the plaguelands...) |
| 16:40.16 | OverloadUT|Work | Yeah you can go pvp->pve but not the other way around |
| 16:40.40 | Lucifear | vhaarr: you could alwasys transfer from pvp -> pve but not from pve -> pvp |
| 16:40.55 | vhaarr | aha |
| 16:41.03 | vhaarr | I always thought it was the other way around. |
| 16:41.06 | OverloadUT|Work | When you do the transfer it gives a big fat warning saying "YOU CAN NEVER GO BACK!" - I never felt so good pressing "I accept" ever ;P |
| 16:41.12 | Lucifear | i think mainly because pvp are more heavily populated |
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| 16:42.03 | vhaarr | ~seen Tuller |
| 16:42.36 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-68-57-185-39.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 17h 29m 34s ago, saying: 'you need a size to see the thing, but it doesn't have to be that specific size'. |
| 16:42.36 | OverloadUT|Work | I don't think so, since they just disable transfers to overpopulated realms. I assumed it was because people felt that leveling on a pvp server was harder so it would be "unfair" for someone to get to 60 on pve and then just hop on over to pvp |
| 16:42.36 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 16:42.36 | JoshBorke | what OverloadUT said |
| 16:43.19 | OverloadUT|Work | We transferred recently enough that we still marvel every time we go to Winterspring or plagualands or Silithus, saying "Hey look, we're not getting ganked!" |
| 16:43.52 | NightHawkTheSane | OverloadUT: well, to be fair, i think it's partially because no one goes to those zones anymore ;) |
| 16:44.12 | OverloadUT|Work | And with the outdoor pvp now, you can still do some random pvp if you feel like it, but at the very worst you can only get ganked for 5 minutes afterwards :D |
| 16:44.41 | OverloadUT|Work | Haha, okay add Hellfire P to that |
| 16:44.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 16:48.06 | OverloadUT|Work | The flagging system is nice on pve. As soon as you unflag you will actually unflag 5 minutes after your last offensive action. That means even if you get attacked during the 5 minute "cooldown" it won't reset the timer if you don't fight back |
| 16:48.34 | Stephmw | ,,, if you survive |
| 16:48.55 | kenlyric | lol. |
| 16:49.23 | Industrial | Loki|muh, Punkie`; i forgot to update my other addons so they are the same so its delayed a little while :> |
| 16:49.24 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 16:49.25 | Codayus | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/01/insidergquit.jpg |
| 16:49.29 | Codayus | Best /gquit ever? |
| 16:49.40 | kenlyric | it's funny on a pve server to see flagged lowbies. |
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| 16:50.09 | kenlyric | Codayus: yes, yes it is. |
| 16:50.12 | kenlyric | You have failed! |
| 16:50.18 | Codayus | My server...heh. |
| 16:52.14 | Stephmw | kenlyric: I do that a lot, flagging my bank alts |
| 16:53.11 | Codayus | A good friend of mine goes out of his way to make his bank alt look like an npc. Carefully selected outfit, always flagged (on a pve server), and walks everyone. |
| 16:53.15 | Codayus | er, everywhere |
| 16:53.56 | kenlyric | wow, that sounds like fun! |
| 16:54.03 | vhaarr | it is, I've done it as well :P |
| 16:54.05 | kenlyric | especially since my bank is in exodar... nobody walks there. |
| 16:54.10 | Codayus | Kind of silly, but amusing. |
| 16:54.21 | kenlyric | I could be a fruit vendor. |
| 16:54.44 | Codayus | He even leveled him to 40...so he could wear better outfits... |
| 16:55.12 | Codayus | (Not kidding, he really did level his bank mule to 40, so that he could look more like an NPC...) |
| 16:55.20 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 16:56.14 | shieldb | I think there's a <Sausage Vendor> tag on our server that some folks use for bank alts |
| 16:56.36 | Codayus | I know of someone who used to have a guild called "Cow Level Battlemaster" or something like that. |
| 16:56.50 | Codayus | Used to hang out flagged next to the other battlemasters... |
| 16:57.01 | Codayus | ...got reported, and bliz changed the guild name. :-( |
| 16:57.28 | Punkie` | Tbh, PvE nub ganking ftw: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6487777405476689531 :D |
| 16:58.16 | shieldb | heh |
| 16:58.22 | shieldb | Codayus, great gquit or greatest gquit? |
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| 16:58.48 | kenlyric | I briefly thought of making a guild called Recovering Botters but figured blizz would make me change it anyway. |
| 16:59.08 | Codayus | The one I linked? Pretty good I thought. Although it's funnier if you know the guild, since they really ARE a bunch of asshats.... |
| 16:59.10 | kenlyric | I'm still angry over Two Dollar Horde |
| 16:59.46 | Codayus | Punkie`: Okay, that video rocks. |
| 17:00.26 | Punkie` | it does :) |
| 17:00.36 | Codayus | Damn |
| 17:01.00 | Codayus | That man wins teh internets. |
| 17:01.25 | Codayus | I've got a rogue, and I'm on a pve server. Hmm....urge to imitate him...rising... |
| 17:01.43 | shieldb | Punkie`, have you seen the exploding sheep gank video one? |
| 17:01.49 | kenlyric | omg!!!! |
| 17:02.05 | kenlyric | I need to do this! |
| 17:02.08 | shieldb | some undead rogue takes an exploding sheep to the gnome/dwarf starting area while in stealth and gets lowbies to attack it |
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| 17:03.57 | Industrial | Loki|muh, Punkie`; http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.new#new cheers |
| 17:03.58 | kenlyric | that video builds very well.. I didn't really know where it was going until he used the rod. |
| 17:04.09 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 17:04.15 | Codayus | Then it's like... *click* |
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| 17:13.29 | CIA-18 | 03adirelle * r30192 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua: |
| 17:13.29 | CIA-18 | CastYeller: DRYCODE |
| 17:13.29 | CIA-18 | - fixed Mage's portal and polymorph announces. |
| 17:13.29 | CIA-18 | - fixed mess with new broadcast code. |
| 17:15.28 | OverloadUT|Work | That video is pretty damn funny |
| 17:16.03 | OverloadUT|Work | I have often thought about doing that with my warlock pet. Like finding an area where there are a bunch of succubi or whatever and just putting her on stay in the middle of the camp |
| 17:16.56 | leech2k | Night Elf hunter use to do that a lot with the rare cat in the barens. |
| 17:17.01 | OverloadUT|Work | Of course I got the idea from seeing a hunter do it. There was some level 60 hunter and he had his pet on stay in Elwynn in the middle of where you have to kill a bunch of bears |
| 17:17.08 | OverloadUT|Work | Ah, there you go ;) |
| 17:17.26 | Codayus | Oooh |
| 17:18.53 | semi-_ | OverloadUT|Work: nah, the trick is to enslave a demon in a demon area. |
| 17:19.17 | OverloadUT|Work | Ohhh that could work too. As long as someone shows up in 5 minutes :P |
| 17:19.37 | semi-_ | heh, yeah. or you were sneaky about it while they fought another demon |
| 17:20.00 | Punkie` | shieldb: sorry i jumped afk there, i haven't seen a sheep gank video no :P |
| 17:20.00 | semi-_ | attack them from behind and hope they react before they see the chains |
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| 17:25.00 | kenlyric | I immediately need to go do this with my hunter. |
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| 17:25.18 | kenlyric | she even needs to go to redridge to get bellygrub anyway. |
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| 17:27.05 | Loki|muh | Industrial: thanks |
| 17:29.32 | deltron | http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/blog.vm?entryId=7452241 <-- vanguard is fun |
| 17:29.48 | deltron | their 'armory' app is so much better |
| 17:32.00 | kenlyric | they probably built the armory along with the game. |
| 17:32.06 | deltron | yeah they did |
| 17:32.08 | kenlyric | wow armory will get more features, I don't doubt. |
| 17:32.16 | CIA-18 | 03trh * r30193 10VanasKoS/modules/Importer.lua: VanasKoS: fixed import of opium kos data |
| 17:32.21 | kenlyric | I'm hot for alts linking |
| 17:32.37 | deltron | it's fun because almost all of my blog pics on vanguard I have it showing through my skull :) |
| 17:32.53 | kenlyric | lol, not very useful, they're all private. |
| 17:33.02 | shieldb | so doodle is insanely useful but frequently goes awry when drawing stuff |
| 17:33.08 | shieldb | but I guess that's half the fun |
| 17:33.09 | deltron | kenlyric: I'd LOVE that because I'd get to find out the effers that are screwing the economy on my server |
| 17:33.35 | kenlyric | deltron: I imagine if they add alt link, that will be something you can hide :) |
| 17:33.42 | kenlyric | like bags/bank |
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| 17:34.31 | kenlyric | lol, I haven't found a single user on vanguard who allows access to his alts list :) |
| 17:34.40 | deltron | I would |
| 17:34.43 | deltron | I could care less |
| 17:35.01 | shieldb | http://oregonstate.edu/~shieldbe/warcraft/doodle.jpg - originally myself and someone else were drawing up someone's interface to make suggestions, then other people got creative with it :P |
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| 17:36.23 | deltron | there we go, you can now see my alts |
| 17:37.17 | kenlyric | that's nice. |
| 17:37.29 | kenlyric | I just don't think I could do the two MMO thing. |
| 17:37.48 | kenlyric | At least they don't make me be a minstrel. |
| 17:37.58 | OverloadUT|Work | Is Vanguard out? |
| 17:38.41 | trh | ya |
| 17:38.44 | trh | but i heard it sucks ;) |
| 17:39.57 | OverloadUT|Work | Owning a lot of consoles sucks |
| 17:40.11 | OverloadUT|Work | All these great games keep coming out and butting in to my WoW time. Gah. |
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| 17:42.19 | deltron | vanguard is actually a lot of fun |
| 17:42.32 | deltron | and this is coming from a pretty hardcore wow guy |
| 17:43.33 | deltron | hmm that profile's not that up to date though |
| 17:43.39 | trh | deltron: i heard its alot of grind |
| 17:43.46 | trh | deltron: with not too much fun involved |
| 17:44.18 | deltron | i'm not that high of a level yet |
| 17:44.27 | deltron | the dungeons are a blast though |
| 17:45.00 | nuoHep | well, its a grind with groups in not instanced dungeons mostly |
| 17:45.08 | kenlyric | ewww groups |
| 17:45.15 | deltron | yup |
| 17:45.28 | deltron | no instances at all |
| 17:45.29 | kenlyric | I like my mmo's single player :) |
| 17:45.36 | trh | i had enough of that in l2 :) |
| 17:45.45 | trh | no vanguard for me, but warhammer might be interesting |
| 17:45.51 | nuoHep | well, you can play solo but it sucks even more then groups imo |
| 17:46.06 | kenlyric | well, that's technically true of wow. |
| 17:46.12 | deltron | one thing I don't like is sometimes the respawn rate is insane |
| 17:46.13 | NightHawkTheSane | no, groups will always suck more because of the universal truth: People are Idiots. |
| 17:46.15 | deltron | for mobs |
| 17:46.16 | kenlyric | depends on how wide the suck range is between solo and grouped. |
| 17:46.36 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: exactly. That's why I like my multiplayer rare. |
| 17:46.36 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: at least for random/pugs |
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| 17:46.47 | nuoHep | solo in grind in vg is sloooo and boooring |
| 17:47.01 | kenlyric | no, guild groups suck too. |
| 17:47.11 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: yeah. when you have good people, the multiplayer aspect is awesome. |
| 17:47.12 | kenlyric | *can suck* |
| 17:47.13 | trh | kenlyric: depends on your guild :) |
| 17:47.23 | nuoHep | because most of the 10+lvl quests are group/dungeons ones |
| 17:47.25 | kenlyric | well, if you have one of those perfect guilds, sure. |
| 17:47.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Some of the best groups I've been in have been with other guilds. >.> |
| 17:47.38 | kenlyric | but most guilds have a percentage of population that are just not very good. |
| 17:47.57 | nuoHep | and you end up farming one spot as in la2 |
| 17:47.57 | trh | kenlyric: na.. its far away from being perfect, but i usually only group with people i know not to suck |
| 17:49.51 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: problem with that is that the people who do suck get resentful about you (and presumably the others) being elitist. |
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| 17:50.20 | NightHawkTheSane | at least in guilds i've been in it's the larger percentage of the guild that is pretty terrible, and the smaller percentage that i care to group with |
| 17:50.27 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: true... happened in our guild too |
| 17:51.42 | kenlyric | most of the terrible players have left our guild and conveniently formed another guild. |
| 17:51.56 | kenlyric | It's awesome to have them all grouped together and laugh at their failure. |
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| 17:52.03 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:52.07 | trh | kenlyric: lol |
| 17:52.12 | NightHawkTheSane | I wish they'd do that in my guild. Sadly, I can't take the good players and leave, because i'm the gm. >< |
| 17:52.13 | kenlyric | pally tanks, moonkin healers, and Disc priests, oh my! |
| 17:52.18 | Funkeh` | hry all |
| 17:52.30 | trh | kenlyric: in our guild usually the good players left to go to a more elitist guild |
| 17:52.43 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: hey, pally tanks can be good. |
| 17:52.44 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: well as gm, you dont have to leave, just kick the bad :P |
| 17:52.54 | kenlyric | "can be" |
| 17:52.56 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: *laugh* |
| 17:53.02 | semi-_ | the problem is few people like actually helping the bad people, so theyre kind of stuck like that |
| 17:53.03 | kenlyric | remember, to overcome class limitations, you must have skill. |
| 17:53.08 | semi-_ | though it really depends on your definition of 'bad' |
| 17:53.09 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: true. |
| 17:53.20 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: there would so be hell to pay if I did that. "Hey, where'd 3/4 of the guild go?" |
| 17:53.40 | kenlyric | yeah, it kinda sucks that you have to cling to the ruffage just to raid. |
| 17:53.41 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:53.52 | NightHawkTheSane | on the other hand, how much would I -love- to just say "it's been 2 months, you're not even 70 yet? /gkick" |
| 17:53.55 | kenlyric | because now the ruffiage is hindering you... |
| 17:54.23 | Tain | I got to 61 before I got bored again and stopped playing. |
| 17:54.31 | kenlyric | there should be some simple tests. like how well a 70 hunter uses feign death. |
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| 17:54.55 | NightHawkTheSane | or how well they freeze trap/kite. |
| 17:55.19 | kenlyric | you use feign death after the tank picks up after the pull, not when you pull aggro off of the tank and I've been an idiot and healed you from dying. |
| 17:55.41 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: the worst thing with the lazy players is that they want to go to a raid, don't prepare for it, AND get pissed if the aren't taken with becuase they have so rarely time for raids |
| 17:56.06 | kenlyric | yeah. "I haven't been able to raid for two weeks, I should get first priority". Makes me lol |
| 17:56.18 | kenlyric | actually, makes me stab |
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| 17:56.24 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: Yeah, that burns me up so much. Especially after I've spent the weekend farming for pots. And people show up and are like "um, anyone have mana pots?" |
| 17:56.43 | Chompers | "im out of mana" "sooo...use a pot" "i dont bring pots, they're a waste of money" |
| 17:56.55 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: true.. i mean sometimes you can forget stuff like that, but if that happens every raid.... |
| 17:57.44 | trh | the best thing was in a MC raid of ours (some months ago), when a hunter with a level 37 quest bow got pissed because we didn't took him with us |
| 17:57.58 | kenlyric | lol |
| 17:58.00 | rubik | hey all.. looking for an addon kind of like perfect targets (maybe?) that will show me who each of the mobs listed/engaged have as their target.. from my party, i mean.. something like that exists? |
| 17:58.07 | kenlyric | "but, I need a new bow!" |
| 17:58.17 | rubik | so, like.. targets of perfect targets... |
| 17:59.15 | Funkeh` | vhaarr |
| 17:59.19 | trh | kenlyric: hehe.. i mean it wouldn't have been a problem having 1 char without good equip at that time because mc was farm-status, but wtf, at least he should have had the decency to actually try to get some better equip.. i mean there were blue level 58+ bows for 40g in the AH |
| 17:59.32 | rubik | or can i do it with agUF? is there a way/option to show "aggroed by" frame next to each party member? |
| 17:59.45 | OverloadUT|Work | Back when I raided I never brought pots. Priests are my mana pots! (warlock here ;) |
| 17:59.54 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: pong |
| 18:00.03 | kenlyric | trh: or, not have botted those last 20 levels. |
| 18:00.05 | Funkeh` | that was a, strange, last episode |
| 18:00.12 | trh | OverloadUT|Work: even warlocks can use a health pot from time to time :) |
| 18:00.35 | kenlyric | yeah, warlocks use health pots, not mana pots. |
| 18:00.38 | OverloadUT|Work | Healthstone! ;) |
| 18:00.46 | trh | OverloadUT|Work: different timer :) |
| 18:00.46 | kenlyric | for when they life tap down to far and then get hit :) |
| 18:01.03 | OverloadUT|Work | I had pots that I would get from random drops, I'd use maybe one a night. But I never spent money on them |
| 18:01.24 | trh | OverloadUT|Work: i'm herbalist, so pot farming was never a real issue for me |
| 18:01.26 | kenlyric | hmmm.. your priests should have stopped wasting mana on you :) |
| 18:01.28 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: indeed |
| 18:01.33 | OverloadUT|Work | Of course, I only raided up through BWL. As I understand it the raid scene is a bit more pot-heavy now |
| 18:01.47 | Antiarc|Work | Naxx was consumable hell. |
| 18:01.58 | trh | Antiarc|Work: aq40 too |
| 18:01.59 | kenlyric | I pot up to learn, but I don't like doing it much. |
| 18:02.08 | Antiarc|Work | AQ40 wasn't that bad, really. |
| 18:02.14 | kenlyric | I design everything in my char to keep me from having to pot :) |
| 18:02.17 | trh | Antiarc|Work: well.. we never went completly through |
| 18:02.19 | kenlyric | regenregenregen |
| 18:02.28 | trh | Antiarc|Work: but we potted alot to try |
| 18:02.32 | Antiarc|Work | We flasked for Huhu and the Emps, and used DPS pots for the emps and C'Thun |
| 18:02.35 | kenlyric | elixirs are evil though. |
| 18:02.42 | kenlyric | I used 28 elixirs one night... |
| 18:02.42 | Barbanus | oh man |
| 18:02.43 | Antiarc|Work | But that wasn't really much in the way of consumables |
| 18:03.09 | trh | i'm just happy you don't have to farm the felwood consumeables anymore for raids |
| 18:03.10 | Barbanus | I was so mad last night .. playing my paladin .. and druid blamed me for a wipe at 80%, because "I could of LoH the tank" |
| 18:03.14 | trh | it was so annoying |
| 18:03.18 | Barbanus | "You can always pot after" |
| 18:03.21 | Antiarc|Work | But Naxx, where your entire raid has to have an asston of consumables to do Loatheb? |
| 18:03.24 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, that sucks. |
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| 18:04.01 | kenlyric | yeah, if it actually is required. |
| 18:04.08 | Barbanus | I'm like .. wtf .. I'm not gonna LoH a tank at 80% because your dumbass and the other paladin are too stupid to outrange the shadow nova on prince... |
| 18:04.18 | kenlyric | I mean, our tanks required pots for firemaw until they got better gear. |
| 18:04.23 | kenlyric | errr, flasks. |
| 18:04.43 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, we flasked our tanks for Broodlord -> Nef while we were learning it |
| 18:04.48 | trh | kenlyric: we used flasks for lashlayer cause we didn't have paladins |
| 18:05.04 | kenlyric | what woudl you need paladins for? |
| 18:05.10 | Antiarc|Work | Devotion, I guess? |
| 18:05.16 | Antiarc|Work | I dunno |
| 18:05.22 | kenlyric | oh, I guess that might help. |
| 18:05.26 | trh | kenlyric: blessing of kings, 10% more sta and lay on hands just in case |
| 18:05.34 | Antiarc|Work | Lashlayer is just two parts - keep your tank from getting one-shotted, and use KTM. |
| 18:05.42 | Antiarc|Work | Flasks make the one-shot highly unlikely. |
| 18:05.53 | trh | our tanks got always killed if lashlayer landed 2 lucky crits |
| 18:05.57 | trh | so we started to use pots |
| 18:06.03 | trh | err.. flasks |
| 18:06.04 | trh | at first |
| 18:06.13 | trh | but later only the stamina inc stuff from ZG |
| 18:06.28 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, same here. MS -> Blastwave could really mess us up in a hurry |
| 18:06.32 | kenlyric | I'm liking the new mana regen flask... especially on learning nights... so much more efficient than 4 elixirs each death. |
| 18:06.34 | Antiarc|Work | But we stopped once our tanks got more HP |
| 18:06.56 | Fisker- | ~seen mitch0 |
| 18:07.25 | purl | mitch0 <n=mitch@84.236.54.133> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 3h 29m 7s ago, saying: 'was funny though, I went out for a smoke and they only started packing up when I got back after 7-8 mins...'. |
| 18:08.54 | trh | the one thing i really hate is that dwarf priests still have fear ward and horde has no aequivalent |
| 18:09.05 | OverloadUT|Work | I'm having a hell of a time figuring out the best way to store quest information in a table. Should I make it a table like quests[zone][name][level][type] or should I do something like quests[zone-name-level-type] or should I create a mapping table that maps each quest to my own unique id and use that to reference it? Argh! |
| 18:09.53 | trh | OverloadUT: i'd do quest[uniquething] and lookup tybles |
| 18:09.56 | trh | tables |
| 18:10.08 | trh | damn y so close to a on german keyboards ;) |
| 18:10.36 | OverloadUT|Work | so like questids[zone-name-level-type] = 472 |
| 18:10.39 | Fisker- | i need a linux GEEEEEEEK |
| 18:10.44 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:10.48 | Barbanus | we ALWAYS learn fights with flask of titans on a tank |
| 18:11.05 | Barbanus | its not that expensive (never was) for a 2h buff |
| 18:11.24 | OverloadUT|Work | It's very expensive if you can't play that often and you like raiding |
| 18:11.25 | trh | OverloadUT: i'd say zonequestid[zone] = { 472, 31337, 142}, namequestId[name] = id and so on |
| 18:11.31 | OverloadUT|Work | So you raid when you can but you don't play besides that |
| 18:11.39 | trh | OverloadUT: so you can lookup all quests from a zone and stuff |
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| 18:11.49 | Barbanus | our guild pays for the flasks for learning encounters |
| 18:12.02 | Barbanus | our tank pots are paid by the guild bank |
| 18:12.12 | kenlyric | yeah, flasking tanks is a good idea, period... it's flasking everyone else where it gets to be trouble :) |
| 18:12.41 | OverloadUT|Work | Ah, I see trh |
| 18:12.47 | OverloadUT|Work | Now I have another possibility :P |
| 18:12.55 | kenlyric | I think of it this way. You won't definitely wipe if one healer runs out of mana. Or if one caster does less damage. You will if one tank runs out of health :) |
| 18:12.58 | Herio | flasking casters could lead to agro issues in some encounters, which will lead to more problems then it solves, tbh =P |
| 18:13.05 | trh | a ex-guildie is now at "for the horde", everyone of them used last night 2 flasks while wiping 4 hours ;) |
| 18:13.09 | trh | that's hardcore |
| 18:13.15 | Barbanus | kenlyric, haha, yea |
| 18:13.39 | kenlyric | problem with flasks now is finding someone who can make them. |
| 18:13.52 | Barbanus | you mean the new ones? |
| 18:13.58 | kenlyric | I've got the mats for seven mana regen flasks, but still have to buy them from the AH because I don't know anyone who can make them. |
| 18:14.05 | Barbanus | cause the old ones are easy as hell to find someone to make, lol |
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| 18:14.13 | kenlyric | (and the people who AH them charge too much with my mats) |
| 18:14.21 | Barbanus | yea .. the new ones are randomly learned |
| 18:14.24 | Barbanus | so its a pita |
| 18:14.31 | kenlyric | yeah, the problem with old ones is the mats... don't have much occassion to hunt for black lotus :) |
| 18:14.38 | OverloadUT|Work | What do you mean randomly learned? |
| 18:14.42 | kenlyric | and, there's not a flask for healers in the old ones. |
| 18:14.55 | Barbanus | OverloadUT, as you make potions .. you have a low chance to learn a new recipe |
| 18:15.02 | trh | OverloadUT: this new mechanism for alchemists |
| 18:15.02 | kenlyric | emphasize LOW |
| 18:15.11 | Barbanus | low as in <`% |
| 18:15.13 | OverloadUT|Work | Whoa, that's very wacky |
| 18:15.21 | kenlyric | you can also randomly learn them while drinking a pot, but I suspect that's a bug. |
| 18:15.23 | trh | OverloadUT: when they create a pot they can have a idea on how to make a other pot |
| 18:15.27 | Barbanus | s/<`%/<1%/ |
| 18:15.48 | trh | kenlyric: every pot, or just high pots? |
| 18:15.55 | Barbanus | kenlyric, I'm pretty sure that is a bug, yea |
| 18:15.58 | kenlyric | flasks, mostly. |
| 18:16.03 | kenlyric | I think there might be others, too. |
| 18:16.06 | Antiarc|Work | If it were every pot, I would be strip-mining the lowbie areas for peacebloom |
| 18:16.09 | Barbanus | trh, I believe you learn the same "type" |
| 18:16.22 | Barbanus | make a high level elixir, learn a high level elixir, etc |
| 18:16.26 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: it's so low that you could make 10k pots and never learn one |
| 18:16.35 | Antiarc|Work | Ick. |
| 18:16.40 | kenlyric | or you could make 2 pots and learn 2. |
| 18:16.41 | OverloadUT|Work | You drink the pot and think "Hey, I bet this would be great little mountain silversage..." |
| 18:16.46 | OverloadUT|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.53 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 18:16.57 | OverloadUT|Work | s/great little/great with a little/ |
| 18:17.10 | trh | OverloadUT|Work: that would actually make some sense |
| 18:17.12 | Barbanus | http://wowwiki.com/Alchemy#Guide_to_Outland_recipes |
| 18:17.14 | kenlyric | one of the reasons I'm not alchemist is so that I can double the chances of my friend learning a flask(s) |
| 18:17.22 | trh | OverloadUT|Work: it's not blizzards way, so possibly a bug ;) |
| 18:17.22 | Barbanus | scroll to "Several recipes can be "discovered" while making other potions" |
| 18:18.04 | NightHawkTheSane | discoveries are the worst thing they ever implemented. >< |
| 18:18.04 | NightHawkTheSane | or rather, they were implemented in a terrible way. |
| 18:18.10 | kenlyric | all the devs think it's wonderful, because it's a "bonus'. |
| 18:18.27 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: the devs that think that arn't the ones that design the raid encounters around those flasks. |
| 18:18.37 | kenlyric | allows people who don't raid to make flasks. |
| 18:18.40 | NightHawkTheSane | And thus, the player goes "wtf?" and cuts himself a little more |
| 18:18.57 | Barbanus | http://wowwiki.com/images/6/6e/Alchdiscovery.jpg |
| 18:18.57 | Herio | you don't have to be a raider to kill balnazaar to get his flask recipie! |
| 18:19.04 | kenlyric | I don't think encounters are designed around flasks. I think people just want to fly through instances faster than the devs want :) |
| 18:19.12 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: ignoring the idiotic placement of alchy labs pre-bc, you never needed to raid to make flasks anyway |
| 18:19.17 | kenlyric | I think they want you to kill 1 boss 20 times before the next boss :) |
| 18:19.31 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: didn't some fothe flask recipes drop in raids? |
| 18:19.37 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: nope, none |
| 18:19.38 | kenlyric | I know I only ever had one. |
| 18:19.44 | kenlyric | though I did raid... |
| 18:20.03 | trh | kenlyric: at least the later bwl encounters were clearly designed to be flasked |
| 18:20.07 | trh | kenlyric: at least the tank |
| 18:20.15 | trh | kenlyric: otherwise there's no explanation for the alchy lab in it |
| 18:20.18 | Herio | which ones? |
| 18:20.18 | kenlyric | only if you rushed through and didn't gear out your tank. |
| 18:20.22 | Barbanus | Herio, you also dont need to be one to get your rep up with Cenarion Expedition to purchase the same flask recipe |
| 18:20.38 | Herio | Barbanus: exactly =P |
| 18:22.13 | beerke | Hmm, latest violation throws errors |
| 18:22.28 | Barbanus | who was the author of CastYeller again? |
| 18:22.37 | Barbanus | it wasnt working for me in kara last night :/ |
| 18:22.46 | NightHawkTheSane | adirelle, i believe |
| 18:22.55 | Barbanus | you are right |
| 18:22.56 | beerke | Violation.lua:762: Some module provided us with nil data |
| 18:23.36 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: re: gearing your tank... you have to be lucky enough with drops to be sure of that happening in any "reasonable" time period though. |
| 18:23.54 | Barbanus | There is LOTS of nice drops for tanks in heroics ... |
| 18:24.14 | Barbanus | dont know if you are running lots .. but you can get your tank geared pretty well running them all of the time |
| 18:24.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Barbanus: well, that was specificly re: BWL, so |
| 18:24.38 | Barbanus | wtf BWL |
| 18:27.02 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: ahhh, devs don't care about reason. They made vael cleave through his ass. |
| 18:27.06 | Barbanus | o.O: VanasKoS: fixed import of opium kos data |
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| 18:27.20 | Barbanus | so ... is vanasKoS a Opium replacement then? |
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| 18:27.39 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: again, so we're back to square one.. flasking ;) |
| 18:28.08 | Barbanus | (I loved Opium, however it never really got cross server bg support, and some other stuff added to it that I thought was useful, and was a memory hog) |
| 18:29.20 | Herio | vael cleave through his ass? |
| 18:29.29 | Antiarc|Work | His cleaves do chain, yes |
| 18:29.33 | Herio | sounds like someone's got a bad case of the horrible rogues |
| 18:29.36 | Antiarc|Work | That's why your melee needs to sit on his hind leg. |
| 18:29.42 | Herio | yeah... |
| 18:29.57 | Herio | as a lock I once pulled agro on him |
| 18:30.00 | Herio | legit |
| 18:30.14 | Herio | I got the first BA |
| 18:30.21 | Antiarc|Work | I can regularly pull aggro on him with my rogue, so I kinda have to hold back a bit :) |
| 18:30.30 | trh | Barbanus: most of the opium stuff it can replace |
| 18:30.39 | Herio | rogues are hax on vael, sheesh |
| 18:30.42 | trh | Barbanus: and has some features additionally |
| 18:30.50 | Antiarc|Work | Vael is the best rogue fight in the game. |
| 18:31.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ... can we stop talking about a two year old encounter already? ;) |
| 18:31.03 | trh | Barbanus: it lacks (currently) some pvp log and stat supports, but it's not completet yet |
| 18:31.06 | Antiarc|Work | Vael is still awesome. |
| 18:31.24 | trh | i hated vael.. as a hunter i always got a soulstone |
| 18:31.38 | trh | and i often died and had to ress and give full dps again |
| 18:31.39 | Barbanus | trh, I wrote a small addon that showed me the guild name BG score menu .. I found it really useful .. so I'd love to see that added :) |
| 18:31.46 | Barbanus | using opium |
| 18:31.59 | Barbanus | if thats something that interests you :) |
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| 18:32.19 | trh | Barbanus: i don't know what you mean by guild name bg score menu =) |
| 18:32.38 | kenlyric | guild name in the BG score menu |
| 18:32.46 | kenlyric | err, BG score screen |
| 18:32.52 | trh | ah.. ok |
| 18:32.53 | Barbanus | on the battleground score screen, I mean ... I had it add the guild name of people into the tooltip |
| 18:33.01 | kenlyric | yeah, I had to translate too. Verbs help :) |
| 18:33.08 | Barbanus | sorry :( |
| 18:33.10 | trh | thats more something for a additional addon... not something that should be integrated into vanaskos =) |
| 18:33.13 | Barbanus | not enough coffee this morning |
| 18:33.16 | kenlyric | actually, that's not a verb. |
| 18:33.39 | kenlyric | I've forgotten what that's called. |
| 18:33.43 | kenlyric | preposition! |
| 18:34.14 | Barbanus | its called ... coffee deprivation |
| 18:34.36 | trh | i don't like coffee :) |
| 18:34.39 | Barbanus | NightHawkTheSane, lets talk about idiot healers who cant outrange the shadow nova on prince in kara |
| 18:34.41 | Herio | caffine |
| 18:34.43 | Herio | err |
| 18:34.51 | trh | caffeine is fine though |
| 18:34.54 | Herio | caffeine intoxication = win |
| 18:34.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Barbanus: sadly, I dont know about that. :P |
| 18:35.03 | kenlyric | Barbanus... didn't you weed out idiot healers who can't range on Mag? |
| 18:35.15 | Barbanus | kenlyric, I wish this was the case |
| 18:35.19 | kenlyric | cause, that's where I learned it. |
| 18:35.29 | Barbanus | I got yelled at for not LoH the tank, when we wiped at 40% |
| 18:35.32 | kenlyric | "ooh, if I step back two steps, I don't get feared. We win!" |
| 18:35.44 | Gngsk | lol |
| 18:35.49 | Barbanus | because both of the other healers went out of range .. instead of standing at max range |
| 18:36.05 | kenlyric | when the bar turns red, move forward! |
| 18:36.23 | Barbanus | I'm like "No, you learn to $#@!ing stand at max range and keep healing the tank you jack@!#" |
| 18:36.35 | Barbanus | those were my exact words ... lol |
| 18:36.38 | trh | apropos bar turns red.. i always wanted to isntall rangerecolor since tbc |
| 18:37.01 | kenlyric | bartender does, though it's not always accurate. |
| 18:37.11 | Barbanus | always worked for me |
| 18:37.14 | kenlyric | close enough usually though. |
| 18:37.33 | kenlyric | it gets more confused by damage spells... never had a problem with healing spells. |
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| 18:37.58 | Barbanus | I'd actually love to see a mod that added a box that showed the exact yards you are from the target |
| 18:38.18 | Barbanus | I've seen some .. none of them do exactly what I have visioned |
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| 18:38.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Barbanus: is that... possible? |
| 18:38.25 | OverloadUT|Work | I don't think it's possible |
| 18:38.26 | trh | Barbanus: it's impossible |
| 18:38.33 | OverloadUT|Work | Pretty sure you can tell if they are at certain fixed ranges |
| 18:38.34 | Barbanus | Yea .. probably not :P |
| 18:38.39 | trh | Barbanus: it was until some patch came and blizzard removed the function |
| 18:38.42 | OverloadUT|Work | Like 10, 27, 25 yards |
| 18:38.50 | kenlyric | I want screen rumble for LoS errors :) |
| 18:38.52 | NightHawkTheSane | you can tell fixed ranges depending onw hat spells you have, yes |
| 18:38.54 | OverloadUT|Work | I pulled those numbers out of my ass, but it's something like that |
| 18:39.15 | trh | OverloadUT: its 0-5,5-8,8-35,35-41 - but which are available depends on talents and class |
| 18:39.30 | Barbanus | well, somehow cart does it for party members on the map ... |
| 18:39.42 | kenlyric | i had the aguf range addon, but it's was keyed for damage, not healing... when my targets were over 30 yards away, they were too see-through. |
| 18:39.47 | Herio | only in the world, barbanus |
| 18:39.50 | trh | Barbanus: ya, its possible for party members to get the position |
| 18:39.55 | trh | Barbanus: but not for targets |
| 18:39.59 | Barbanus | Herio, oh that blows |
| 18:40.13 | OverloadUT|Work | I want to be able to have certain audible errors play and not others. I turned them off after starting a rogue alt because I was going to kill myself if I heard "not enough energy" one more time, but now I find I'm missing loot because I never notice the red "Out of space" error when I try to loot |
| 18:40.20 | Herio | you can visually look at the minimap, and do it that way |
| 18:40.38 | Herio | I've heard of people overlaying circles to check for aoe heals, etc range |
| 18:41.08 | Barbanus | Herio, well the reason I was thinking about it, is to easily get to max range on a tank, etc |
| 18:41.10 | trh | there was a mod for it, but it was buggy when zooming in and out |
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| 18:43.54 | OverloadUT|Work | So if I'm recording quest information (pretty much everything but the long description and summary) what is the best way to do a partial match search on a quest name? Iterating through all of them and doing a regex (or pattern or whatever wacky thing Lua has) seems like it would cause a hiccup once the DB becomes huge... |
| 18:44.24 | NightHawkTheSane | OverloadUT: hash the questname and level and index by that? |
| 18:44.29 | cncfanatics | ~seen JJSheets |
| 18:44.55 | purl | jjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 28m 45s ago, saying: 'and it's probably not worth it.'. |
| 18:44.56 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, you want partial match |
| 18:44.59 | NightHawkTheSane | my bad |
| 18:44.59 | trh | OverloadUT: for partial matching it's the only way.. at least until you make partial indice tables |
| 18:45.15 | trh | OverloadUT: but that is pretty advanced database core coding ;) |
| 18:45.29 | OverloadUT|Work | Wahhh :( |
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| 18:45.46 | trh | OverloadUT: it'd be awesome to have a sql database accessable through lua |
| 18:45.48 | OverloadUT|Work | I'm trying to figure out how Sanity2 does it, becuase it's fast :P |
| 18:46.11 | trh | OverloadUT: as long as you don't got 30k entries you don't have to worry |
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| 18:47.48 | semi-_ | wonder how hard it would be to access sqlite from lua |
| 18:47.59 | semi-_ | that would likely be the way to go |
| 18:48.06 | trh | semi-_: i'd say about 10 hours of coding |
| 18:48.33 | trh | semi-_: basically only a query() function plus some stuff for database result => table |
| 18:49.38 | OverloadUT|Work | Hm, sanity just does a full iterate, and it does it on each letter you type in to the search field. I guess it's pretty quick :P |
| 18:50.10 | Barbanus | I think there is about 10,000 quests |
| 18:50.30 | trh | Barbanus: no problem |
| 18:50.46 | OverloadUT|Work | Yeah that would be worst (best?) case scenario. If it slows down too much at that point I can just refine it later! :P |
| 18:51.44 | trh | OverloadUT|Work: and as long as the code isn't called without any user action it doesnt matter how long it takes |
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| 18:52.22 | OverloadUT|Work | That's the problem, I would like to call it without user action |
| 18:52.30 | Barbanus | The last quest thottbot has is http://www.thottbot.com/q10937 |
| 18:52.34 | OverloadUT|Work | But that's a feature to implment later that I could just scrap if it's too slow |
| 18:52.36 | Barbanus | which is almost 11000 |
| 18:52.38 | Barbanus | so yea .. |
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| 18:52.43 | Barbanus | I doubt you should have much issues |
| 18:53.04 | Azy | Hello all, could anybody help me with adding a font to Clearfont. I've copied code from a font pack, but I can't see to get it to work. Any help would be great |
| 18:53.09 | OverloadUT|Work | I always always always underestimate the speed of computers :P |
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| 18:53.30 | trh | OverloadUT|Work: ya.. they are f*ing fast nowadays |
| 18:53.34 | OverloadUT|Work | I get all worried about performance and then I find out that you could do a thousand times what I'm doing in a microsecond :P |
| 18:54.36 | OverloadUT|Work | I wrote a word descrambling script in Python that I was worried would take too long to run like four regexes on every word in the dictionary. Turns out it does it instantly. :P |
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| 18:57.40 | Somani | Someone from DKPmon here? |
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| 19:13.09 | Bruners | wtf, i just lost half of you addons |
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| 19:13.52 | Bruners | skinner, fuBar, squeenix, sorrentimer seems to have lost their saved variables |
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| 19:19.15 | OverloadUT|Work | Ouch |
| 19:19.56 | NightHawkTheSane | daily backups of your wtf directory ftw? |
| 19:20.08 | JoshBorke | anyone got any links to UI theory? |
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| 19:23.47 | Herio | anyone know the best cola to rum ratio for a cuba libre? |
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| 19:25.34 | Saint-N | hey dumb networking question |
| 19:25.43 | ckknight | dumb networking answer. |
| 19:25.46 | Bruners | hmm, seems like alot of the saved variables have got the .bak |
| 19:26.00 | Saint-N | if i bought a 24port switch that wouldnt be able to login and connect through my dsl modem right? |
| 19:26.10 | Saint-N | i'd still need a router? |
| 19:26.15 | sylvanaar | idk whoever uses Prat, fun thing to try, enable the substitutions module, then make a macro "/bg inc [%loc]" in a bg it will say "inc [Mage Tower]" (or wherever you are) |
| 19:28.12 | deltron | nic |
| 19:28.13 | deltron | e |
| 19:28.17 | Polleke | Saint-N, yes you do |
| 19:28.52 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 19:29.08 | Saint-N | talking out loud is easier than buying and bitching ;) |
| 19:30.05 | ckknight | sylvanaar: ooh, like cogwheel's MacroText dealy? |
| 19:30.14 | sylvanaar | i guess |
| 19:30.28 | sylvanaar | can he say one sentance without mentioning it? |
| 19:30.53 | sylvanaar | it does the same sort of stuff |
| 19:31.02 | Thrae | MacroText? Someone used the power of /click? |
| 19:31.17 | ckknight | no, it adds extra stuff like %p for pet and whatnot |
| 19:31.23 | ckknight | and /gr for group chat |
| 19:31.25 | Thrae | Ah |
| 19:31.56 | sylvanaar | yeah prat doesnt have /gr, but it has a module with substitution tokens |
| 19:32.02 | Thrae | Here I was hoping for "extended macros" by exploiting /click |
| 19:32.18 | ckknight | steal /gr |
| 19:32.31 | NightHawkTheSane | what does /gr do> |
| 19:32.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ? |
| 19:32.37 | ckknight | gonna pastey |
| 19:32.45 | sylvanaar | picks party. raid, bg |
| 19:32.45 | Somani | Hm... is DKPmon_eqdkp able to handle an MultiDKP-eqDKP (eqDKP Plus)? |
| 19:32.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 19:32.56 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/8351 |
| 19:32.58 | ckknight | sylvanaar: ^--- |
| 19:33.01 | Somani | import for shure, but export? |
| 19:33.11 | Somani | -h |
| 19:33.25 | Thrae | Since you can /click as many other macro buttons as you want (visible or not) as long as the macro logic doesn't resolve into an action. |
| 19:33.32 | OverloadUT|Work | You ever start overhauling your code and realize that you're not even using more than a couple utility functions from the old version? :P |
| 19:34.52 | Thrae | I made my own little addon with custom macro buttons, since my macros were taking up too muh text...mostly /use logic, since a failed /use when it can't find the item or fails due to anything OTHER then cooldown doesn't stop the macro |
| 19:35.56 | ckknight | sylvanaar: I added it locally to my AceConsole, but didn't feel it was necessarily right for mainstream |
| 19:36.57 | sylvanaar | ill stick it in prat somewhere, im trying to think which module |
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| 19:40.34 | yacoob | Allright. |
| 19:40.37 | KarlThePagan | unique meteagems can kiss my ass |
| 19:40.40 | KarlThePagan | i hate blizzard |
| 19:40.41 | yacoob | How the hell does decursive work right now? |
| 19:40.54 | KarlThePagan | "Micro Unit-Frame" |
| 19:41.10 | KarlThePagan | puts buttons next to your party/raid and changes their color when active |
| 19:41.14 | yacoob | i mean, how does it autoselect the target. |
| 19:41.25 | KarlThePagan | it doesn't afaik |
| 19:41.29 | KarlThePagan | i just use grid |
| 19:41.45 | yacoob | I just saw it in works! |
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| 19:42.22 | KarlThePagan | it's something that blizzard explicitly stated is not intended behavior for the lua system |
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| 19:42.26 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 19:42.26 | CIA-18 | - Added :IterateSet() so people don't have to muck with determining if something's a multiset and iterating differently accordingly. |
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| 19:42.37 | break19 | woot, 10.4.9, one of the fixes "Improves the reliability of OpenGL-accelerated graphics in Blizzard's World of Warcraft. " thanks Apple :) |
| 19:42.47 | yacoob | KarlThePagan, details? |
| 19:43.06 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: wooo! |
| 19:43.11 | KarlThePagan | yacoob, see blue posts around December 2006 |
| 19:43.22 | KarlThePagan | not exactly breaking news sorry |
| 19:43.28 | yacoob | KarlThePagan, in short, it'll be patched? |
| 19:43.31 | chutwig | break19: it's pretty convenient when that's essentially the only game they need to target their opengl game performance to |
| 19:44.11 | break19 | chutwig: no, it means the other games dont have the issue |
| 19:44.16 | KarlThePagan | yacoob, if there's a workaround that allows you to programatically target a party member without the player themselves making the specifics of that decision then yes... it will be patched |
| 19:44.36 | KarlThePagan | in short... whack-a-mole is as good as it gets |
| 19:44.50 | yacoob | if i provide you the link to the source, will you be able to tell me how does it work? :) |
| 19:44.54 | KarlThePagan | http://www.stuffonmycat.com/media/2/20070314-OLLIE_SOPHIE.jpg |
| 19:45.02 | KarlThePagan | probably |
| 19:45.09 | break19 | chutwig: contrary to popular belief, wow is NOT the only game for macs.. www.aspyr.com - ports 90% of windows games to macs |
| 19:45.18 | chutwig | break19: i am a mac user |
| 19:45.33 | yacoob | http://www.wowace.com/files/Decursive/Decursive-r30070.2.zip then :) |
| 19:45.36 | chutwig | so you don't need to go into defensive stance just yet |
| 19:45.44 | break19 | habit |
| 19:45.56 | break19 | and automatic :) |
| 19:46.04 | rubik | ckknight: thanks for that /gr thing.. sylv, plz add to prat somewhere.. kthx. :P |
| 19:46.22 | ckknight | I'll add your mom to prat |
| 19:46.23 | chutwig | all the same i would not exactly accuse apple of having the fastest opengl implementation on the planet |
| 19:46.25 | ckknight | burn! |
| 19:46.28 | rubik | O_o |
| 19:46.38 | chutwig | we'll see how the multithreaded opengl stuff does in 10.5 |
| 19:46.54 | break19 | chutwig: true dat, but it's way faster than MS's implementation of oGL on windows. |
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| 19:47.40 | KarlThePagan | yacoob, which file was this feature mentioned in? |
| 19:47.40 | ckknight | I'm still sick |
| 19:47.40 | break19 | chutwig: im worried about .5 |
| 19:47.52 | break19 | will it still be universal? |
| 19:47.55 | break19 | <- G4 |
| 19:47.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i hope so |
| 19:48.01 | NightHawkTheSane | <- g5 |
| 19:48.07 | rubik | so i'm looking at aUF_Banzai code.. all it does is repaint party fram in red if that person aggroes something, right? |
| 19:48.09 | yacoob | KarlThePagan, don't know exactly. My girlfriend just got it, and it works as advertised, that is mash one key -> autoclean the raid |
| 19:48.26 | chutwig | break19: yes |
| 19:48.30 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: I think .5 will be, honestly. .6 might not be though |
| 19:48.32 | break19 | woot *dance* |
| 19:48.53 | break19 | hopefully, by the time .6 comes out, I'll have a mac pro :p |
| 19:48.56 | chutwig | i would expect 10.6 to be the last version available for ppc |
| 19:49.13 | chutwig | in other news |
| 19:49.14 | ckknight | chutwig: yea, same |
| 19:49.20 | chutwig | quarkxpress was forged in the deepest darkest circle of hell |
| 19:49.21 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: yeah, same. |
| 19:49.28 | ckknight | and I'd also think that maybe the last for 32-bit |
| 19:49.30 | chutwig | and then birthed upon this world by beelzebub's minions |
| 19:52.22 | kenlyric | yacoob: don't tell anyone. |
| 19:52.48 | kenlyric | unless it just goes through every single person and tries to cleanse them. |
| 19:53.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: well, none of the intel macs are 32 bit are they? so if it's the last ppc, then by definition it'd be the last 32 bit.. |
| 19:53.03 | yacoob | kenlyric, that's what I want to know :) |
| 19:53.09 | KarlThePagan | the code i'm looking at only cleans the unit you're mouse'd over yacoob |
| 19:53.22 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: Core Duos (not Core 2 Duos) |
| 19:53.26 | KarlThePagan | and requires you to hold down ctrl or alt to do something other than your default spell |
| 19:53.34 | kenlyric | you can make such a thing easily, but in a 25-man, you're going to be mashing the button a lot to find people at the end of the list :) |
| 19:53.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: hm, they were 32 bit? blah |
| 19:53.46 | kenlyric | KarlThePagan: oh, yeah, mousover is easy enough. |
| 19:53.52 | ckknight | yea, they're hacked P4's |
| 19:54.09 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, yea but that's not the pre-2.0 functionality... which is what I'm hearing from yacoob |
| 19:54.11 | break19 | yea, the core duo are 32bit cpus, but more like xeons than P4s |
| 19:54.57 | kenlyric | the pre-2.0 functionality is not supposed to be possible, and they've expressly stated that. So using mods that do that, even if it's a bug in the code, can be a problem. |
| 19:55.02 | KarlThePagan | at any rate... if you still need pre-2.0 decursive functionality you need to learn to play |
| 19:55.04 | kenlyric | Like I said... don't tell anyone :) |
| 19:55.43 | kenlyric | I just use click2cast + grid... though I need to find a way for it to filter out all magic debuffs that don't kill you. |
| 19:55.54 | kenlyric | having frostbolt debuff block the square is very annoying. |
| 19:55.58 | CIA-18 | 03sylvanaar * r30195 10Prat/modules/ChannelSticky.lua: Prat: added /gr /group GROUPSAY suport which picks PARTY, RAID, or BATTLEGROUND depending on which is most relevant |
| 19:56.19 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: ooooh |
| 19:56.32 | KarlThePagan | yea kenlyric please! pasta has Detox integration in his plans... i'm a little swamped and still haven't spent much time investigating it |
| 19:56.42 | KarlThePagan | Detox & Grid would be so awesome |
| 19:57.27 | sylvanaar | i use xperl - it works flawlessly, i just click on the frames |
| 19:57.37 | KarlThePagan | yacoob, looking at the code I believe you are mistaken |
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| 19:57.44 | kenlyric | And there's the other annoyance, where it doesn't absolutely scream at you if they have unstable affliction :) |
| 19:57.48 | KarlThePagan | or that's not the decursive you're using - it requires you to mouseover |
| 19:57.51 | yacoob | well, I'll ask her to demonstrate |
| 19:57.53 | kenlyric | you only make that mistake once in arcatraz. |
| 19:58.03 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, lol yes |
| 19:58.34 | KarlThePagan | actually you can do unstable affliction with current grid |
| 19:58.51 | KarlThePagan | add it to debuffs make it a nice big red X or something that says to you DO NOT DISPEL |
| 19:58.55 | KarlThePagan | and give it priority 100 |
| 19:59.13 | KarlThePagan | I should do that myself |
| 19:59.27 | KarlThePagan | but i'm too busy making 100g an hour from fishing water motes lol |
| 19:59.34 | break19 | mm, fish |
| 19:59.54 | KarlThePagan | 490/375 fishing :D |
| 19:59.56 | rubik | has blizz fixed the 'pet bar not showing loss of HP' bug? |
| 20:00.08 | KarlThePagan | rubik, "hotfix" supposedly |
| 20:00.18 | shieldb | KarlThePagan, "It prints money" eh? :) |
| 20:00.39 | KarlThePagan | shieldb, indeed... |
| 20:01.05 | break19 | hm, where should I take my wife out to eat, tonite.. olive garden, the american cafe, el chicos, or roadhouse grill... hmmm this is our 4yr anniversary.. |
| 20:01.23 | JoshBorke | el chicos |
| 20:01.24 | kenlyric | uh... not olive garden. |
| 20:01.35 | KarlThePagan | find a real italian place |
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| 20:01.40 | kenlyric | take her to a more upscale restaurant, like Fazoli's |
| 20:01.44 | pastamancer | ugh, never olive garden |
| 20:01.46 | rubik | have only heard of olive garden from that list but yeah, don't take her there |
| 20:01.49 | break19 | KarlThePagan: fazolis? lol |
| 20:01.49 | KarlThePagan | any non-chain place :P |
| 20:01.51 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: make her dinner yourself |
| 20:02.14 | shieldb | break19, you should go to the winchester |
| 20:02.15 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: the emergency room is not my idea of a good time. |
| 20:02.19 | kenlyric | nah, there are plenty of chain italian places that are good. Just not OG. |
| 20:02.29 | NightHawkTheSane | learn to cook first? ;) |
| 20:02.46 | rubik | cooking takes too much (WoW) time |
| 20:02.51 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: oh I can cook... but if I step one foot inside HER kitchen, she'll brain me. |
| 20:02.56 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 20:03.11 | rubik | so wait.. you guys have wives that COOK?!? whoa |
| 20:03.11 | NightHawkTheSane | right, my bad. :) |
| 20:03.43 | break19 | my wife is one HELL of a good cook |
| 20:03.53 | rubik | you're a lucky man |
| 20:04.16 | break19 | if I had to choose between her food, or emerils.. i'd choose hers (and NOT just because I'd sleep on the couch otherwise, either) |
| 20:04.26 | OverloadUT|Work | break19: Where do you live? |
| 20:04.35 | break19 | alabama gulf coast |
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| 20:05.01 | CIA-18 | Cartographer: InstanceLoot: |
| 20:05.01 | CIA-18 | - Clean up ugly mess, use the PT3 set iterator. |
| 20:05.25 | OverloadUT|Work | Anyone would choose that over Emeril so they wouldn't have to listen to that overhyped hack :P |
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| 20:06.56 | break19 | he's opening one of his restaurants across the state line in MS, at one of the casinos.. so we'll see |
| 20:08.01 | Razh | anyone know how to SetTexCoord of a Normal or Pushed button texture? |
| 20:08.24 | Razh | or better yet can those textures be referenced? like $parentButton1NormalTexture? |
| 20:09.03 | Razh | i tried GetNormalTexture but it returns a string not a reference |
| 20:09.08 | Cryect | I believe its something like that, just code a routine that goes through all the children of a specified frame and spits out the names of all them |
| 20:09.15 | Cryect | you should be able to easily find the name |
| 20:10.02 | Cryect | also |
| 20:10.06 | Cryect | if you know the name of the texture |
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| 20:10.14 | Cryect | you could use GetGlobal(name) |
| 20:10.30 | ckknight | getglobal |
| 20:10.38 | ckknight | but I'd prefer _G[name] |
| 20:10.38 | Razh | yea but thats the name |
| 20:10.44 | Razh | err |
| 20:10.47 | Razh | but whats the name |
| 20:10.59 | Cryect | parse through the children of the button frame and find out |
| 20:11.17 | Razh | whats the function to return the child? |
| 20:11.36 | Cryect | one second |
| 20:11.54 | Cryect | GetChildren |
| 20:12.19 | Razh | returns a table? |
| 20:12.22 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30197 10AutoBar/AutoBarItemList.lua: |
| 20:12.23 | CIA-18 | AutoBar: |
| 20:12.23 | CIA-18 | - Return set iteration to near-sanity. Apologies again for tinkering, Toadkiller. |
| 20:12.32 | Cryect | so you want something like for k, v in pairs(button:GetChildren()) do printfunction(v:GetName) end |
| 20:12.40 | Cryect | and replace printfunctionw ith a function that prints out somewhere |
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| 20:14.13 | OverloadUT|Work | Quixote has a function named HasAnythingFuckedUpGetQuestLogTitle() |
| 20:14.33 | Cryect | thats an interesting function name for error checking |
| 20:15.20 | OverloadUT|Work | It checks to make sure another addon has not hooked GetQuestLogTitle and, well, fucked it up. I imagine it caused a few hard-to-figure-out bug reports and he was frustrates when he saw that it was other addons' fault. ;) |
| 20:15.34 | OverloadUT|Work | s/frustrates/frustrated/ |
| 20:15.50 | Uhuru | Hi |
| 20:16.05 | Uhuru | Cartographer don't completely work since the last update |
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| 20:16.26 | Zorkmid25 | WoW sucks |
| 20:16.40 | lhunath | zorkmid25++ |
| 20:16.51 | Uhuru | don't work at all for right ^^ |
| 20:16.57 | Razh | apparently a button doesn't have any children |
| 20:16.59 | Razh | im using |
| 20:17.10 | Uhuru | ckknight ? |
| 20:17.22 | JoshBorke | someone should make everyone implement delayed tooltips |
| 20:17.23 | Razh | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.49 | Cryect | v:GetName() |
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| 20:17.55 | Cryect | have to actually call the function |
| 20:18.06 | Cryect | I see I made that error earlier whoops |
| 20:18.26 | Zorkmid25 | WoW sucks |
| 20:18.38 | OverloadUT|Work | Hmm.... 45 seconds |
| 20:19.37 | Zorkmid25 | exactly ? |
| 20:19.52 | OverloadUT|Work | more or less |
| 20:19.58 | Razh | getglobal("xArena_MainPanelButton1"):GetName() works |
| 20:20.06 | Stephmw | I made it 120s |
| 20:20.07 | Razh | "xArena_MainPanelButton1"):GetChildren() returns nil |
| 20:20.22 | Razh | button has no children frames? |
| 20:20.26 | Cryect | hmmm if it returns nil uh I guess it has no children |
| 20:21.19 | Razh | soooo no one knows how to reference the texture of a button? |
| 20:24.03 | Cryect | the textures were already set for this button right? |
| 20:25.08 | Uhuru | http//naxxalite.free.fr/errors.txt <- here are my carto errors with last update, don't work on my frFR client |
| 20:25.13 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30198 10StatStain/StatStain.lua: |
| 20:25.13 | CIA-18 | StatStain: |
| 20:25.13 | CIA-18 | - Don't check more than 5 textures per tooltip, there aren't that many sockets on anything.. yet? |
| 20:25.46 | ckknight | Uhuru: how do you mean? |
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| 20:26.13 | ckknight | Uhuru: ah, lemme check link |
| 20:26.49 | ckknight | Uhuru: oh, go into Babble-Zone-2.2 and localize Armory, Library, Graveyard, and Cathedral (the four SM wings) |
| 20:26.55 | ckknight | then commit it up |
| 20:27.11 | Uhuru | k thx |
| 20:28.20 | Uhuru | ["Armory"] = true, |
| 20:28.26 | Uhuru | i change this in ? |
| 20:28.30 | ckknight | change the true |
| 20:28.36 | Uhuru | false ? |
| 20:28.40 | ckknight | to like "Armoré" or however you frenchies do it |
| 20:28.41 | Cryect | Hmmm Razh anyways forgot had to turn the result into a table from GetChildren for k, v in pairs( |
| 20:28.41 | Cryect | {IMBA_Options_GraphicsFrame_FrameSettings_BGColor:GetChildren()}) do DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(v:GetName()) end |
| 20:28.48 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30199 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.lua: |
| 20:28.48 | CIA-18 | PT3Browser: |
| 20:28.48 | CIA-18 | - Use :IterateSet |
| 20:28.52 | Uhuru | Armurerie ;) |
| 20:28.59 | ckknight | Uhuru: alright, change it to that |
| 20:28.59 | Uhuru | i try thx |
| 20:29.01 | Cryect | Anyways buttons don't appear to have children |
| 20:29.06 | ckknight | ["Armory"] = "Armurerie" |
| 20:29.24 | ckknight | also make sure that the -- at the front is gone |
| 20:29.57 | shieldb | nymbia, you around? |
| 20:30.05 | nymbia | shieldb: sup |
| 20:30.13 | shieldb | so doodle is super awesome |
| 20:30.24 | shieldb | but occasionally guildies are complaining about being bombed by errors |
| 20:30.27 | nymbia | :) |
| 20:30.34 | Barbanus | what is doodle? |
| 20:30.34 | nymbia | what kind of errors? |
| 20:30.39 | shieldb | unfortunately they aren't technical enough to be able to copy and paste or even tell me what they are :( |
| 20:30.41 | JoshBorke | tell them to install bugsack |
| 20:30.41 | Barbanus | write on a pad and share it? |
| 20:30.59 | ckknight | Barbanus: Pictionary for WoW |
| 20:31.04 | nymbia | ~doodle |
| 20:31.05 | purl | hmm... doodle is A better version of Whiteboard, but without the suck, much more efficient. Think Pictionary for WoW, except without annoying celebrities or drunk neighbors. |
| 20:31.05 | shieldb | but it sounded like it was trying to index some nil value |
| 20:31.15 | shieldb | Barbanus, http://oregonstate.edu/~shieldbe/warcraft/doodle.jpg |
| 20:31.30 | nymbia | shieldb: hrm.. well just a line number would help a lot ;) |
| 20:31.44 | Barbanus | can you use like maps as backgrounds or anything? |
| 20:31.48 | Barbanus | that would be uber cool |
| 20:31.49 | Cryect | Hehe I wrote Whiteboard in like 1 day and never touched it again practically :-p |
| 20:31.52 | Barbanus | explain strat on it |
| 20:32.04 | Barbanus | LOL! |
| 20:32.06 | Cryect | though I did implement a better version in Blackboard for communication |
| 20:32.17 | Barbanus | I always like when someone insults a mod .. and the author is here :P |
| 20:32.35 | nymbia | Barbanus: it's got some basic custom texture support |
| 20:32.40 | ckknight | yea, that is kinda funny, Barbanus |
| 20:32.49 | Cryect | nah whiteboard does suck if you were in a guild or anything |
| 20:32.55 | shieldb | nymbia, yeah I'll see if I can't nail something down next time I hear about it, I just figured I'd ask to see if you had heard anything from anyone else yet :) |
| 20:32.58 | Cryect | was really easy to disconnect you |
| 20:33.03 | nymbia | Barbanus: hey i didnt write that purl response ;) |
| 20:33.10 | Barbanus | haha |
| 20:33.21 | Barbanus | nymbia, basic .. how basic? |
| 20:33.41 | Barbanus | It would be cool if it could somehow work with cart, so allow you to insert cart maps, or something |
| 20:34.01 | Barbanus | I'd force my guild to download it .. just for the sake of explaining strats easy as hell |
| 20:34.03 | ZealotOnAStick | shieldb: Make them install bugsack and buggrabber. Next time they get an error, they can send it to you (you need them too). |
| 20:34.07 | ckknight | right, Barbanus |
| 20:34.10 | ckknight | Barbanus: that'd be pimp |
| 20:34.29 | ckknight | I wonder... |
| 20:34.33 | ckknight | how big is Doodle? |
| 20:34.37 | nymbia | Barbanus: you need to feed it a path or use one of the built in textures.. currently there's only my terrible pencil texture built in. |
| 20:34.46 | Barbanus | Cartographer_Doodle? :) |
| 20:34.49 | ckknight | right. |
| 20:34.53 | Uhuru | ckknight it don't works sorry |
| 20:35.05 | ckknight | Uhuru: bump the revision number at the top |
| 20:35.09 | Funkeh` | didn't like whiteboard at all |
| 20:35.15 | Funkeh` | sent 1 sync message per pixel basically |
| 20:35.24 | Funkeh` | have 10 people drawing you got a lot of spam |
| 20:35.24 | ckknight | ew |
| 20:35.25 | Uhuru | bump means ? |
| 20:35.30 | ckknight | Uhuru: increase |
| 20:35.38 | Funkeh` | 1000 messages in 30sec or so? :p |
| 20:35.38 | Cryect | Funkeh I actually fixed that |
| 20:35.44 | Cryect | With Blackboard |
| 20:35.48 | Cryect | it created strokes |
| 20:35.50 | Funkeh` | good good |
| 20:35.51 | Cryect | and sent those instead |
| 20:36.00 | Uhuru | Revision: $Rev: 30155 $ i change 30155 by ? |
| 20:36.01 | Cryect | I never went back and updated it for whiteboard though |
| 20:36.07 | ckknight | Uhuru: change it to 40000 |
| 20:36.13 | Uhuru | ok i try thx |
| 20:36.30 | ckknight | I'm gonna take a look at Doodle now |
| 20:36.33 | ckknight | see if I can tinker |
| 20:36.36 | ckknight | hope nobody minds |
| 20:36.38 | Funkeh` | nah i never really used imba or whatever it was that much |
| 20:36.46 | Funkeh` | only for 4hm during the time we had sync problems with bw |
| 20:37.04 | Cryect | imba was basically my playtoy for doing more interesting bossmods than timers |
| 20:37.10 | nymbia | ckknight: the guts are 51k. i was thinking have Cartographer_Doodle require both carto and doodle, and just reanchor the tools frame onto the carto frame |
| 20:37.21 | nymbia | ckknight: tinker away ;) |
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| 20:37.41 | Uhuru | ckknight still don't work |
| 20:37.50 | Barbanus | wow, that would kick ass, seriously.. I'm excited to see the result |
| 20:38.07 | nymbia | ckknight: miss those messages? |
| 20:38.13 | ckknight_ | blah |
| 20:38.15 | ckknight_ | Uhuru: did you get a different error? |
| 20:38.17 | ckknight_ | Barbanus: hrm? |
| 20:38.17 | Barbanus | nymbia, does it currently have a way to make it so only raid promoted people can write on it, etc? |
| 20:38.21 | ckknight | nymbia: yes |
| 20:38.27 | Funkeh` | cryect was a pretty godo package |
| 20:38.40 | Funkeh` | but i was more interested with bw :p |
| 20:38.45 | Funkeh` | good* |
| 20:38.59 | Barbanus | -13:35:55- (nymbia) ckknight: the guts are 51k. i was thinking have Cartographer_Doodle require both carto and doodle, and just reanchor the tools frame onto the carto frame |
| 20:39.06 | Barbanus | -13:36:05- (nymbia) ckknight: tinker away ;) |
| 20:39.13 | ckknight | alright |
| 20:39.13 | Barbanus | thats what you missed I think |
| 20:39.19 | ckknight | oh, fun note, nymbia |
| 20:39.42 | nymbia | ? |
| 20:39.44 | Funkeh` | sucks! |
| 20:39.51 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 20:39.52 | ckknight | since Atlasv2 and Cartographer_InstanceMaps use the same backend, there could be a 1:1 correlation, allowing Atlas users to see drawings just like Cart users, and back and forth |
| 20:40.04 | ckknight | Funkeh`: ping |
| 20:40.08 | nymbia | true Funkeh` |
| 20:40.14 | Funkeh` | sup ckknight |
| 20:40.19 | Funkeh` | <3 nymbia |
| 20:40.24 | ckknight | Funkeh`: did you see the compression change I made? |
| 20:40.28 | nymbia | ckknight: that'd be pretty hot |
| 20:41.17 | Uhuru | ckknight yes same errors |
| 20:41.34 | ckknight | Uhuru: did you remove the "--" from the start of the line? |
| 20:42.01 | Funkeh` | ckknight: yes i did |
| 20:42.11 | Uhuru | ckknight i got this : ["Armory"] = "Armurerie",["Library"] = "Bibliothèque",["Cathedral"] = "Cathédrale",["Graveyard"] = "Cimetière", |
| 20:42.22 | Saint-N | the vandals rule |
| 20:42.24 | Saint-N | that is all |
| 20:42.28 | ckknight | Funkeh`: first, what do you think? second, can you run it on all the wmos? |
| 20:43.10 | Uhuru | cartographer_quests don't work, i don't know for the rest of cartographer but my busack is flooded by carto errors |
| 20:43.27 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i will try later, what i think? well looks wierd, and takes an extra second or 2 to open the instance, but if its more efficient then great |
| 20:43.32 | Saint-N | most of the errors from cart are because of the dir structure change |
| 20:43.53 | Saint-N | backup/export yer notes if you have any wipe all the cart folders and "reinstall |
| 20:44.04 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30200 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - added SM Wings for frFR |
| 20:44.26 | Saint-N | god i love www.pandora.com |
| 20:44.28 | ckknight | Uhuru: update and try that |
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| 20:44.35 | Fisker- | nymbia some kind of cartographer_doodle you say? |
| 20:44.48 | Uhuru | k thx |
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| 20:45.50 | Cryect | in ways it kinda is |
| 20:45.52 | Uhuru | if the babble developper need a french translator i can do this for him ;) |
| 20:46.00 | Funkeh` | ckknight: you added the compression into the original script? does it also create the commented textures automatically? |
| 20:46.08 | ckknight | yes, Funkeh` |
| 20:46.08 | Cryect | the line drawing code is already librarized in GraphLib |
| 20:46.19 | Cryect | but none of the code to handle communication of course |
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| 20:46.47 | Funkeh` | ill run it on everything later ckknight, do a test |
| 20:47.02 | Funkeh` | in a raid at the moment |
| 20:47.02 | ckknight | test? |
| 20:47.06 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 20:47.15 | Uhuru | brb |
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| 20:48.55 | ckknight | I was just thinking about having Doodle be separated into a library and addon part, so you can include DoodleLib in an addon arbitrarily, Cartographer for instance |
| 20:49.26 | Cryect | So basically need a function that says start drawing lines on this frame and a function that says stop drawing lines and a start/stop erasing function |
| 20:49.31 | Cryect | plus a way to enable communication |
| 20:49.44 | ckknight | also, the Comm is very ugly compared to what it could be |
| 20:49.56 | Cryect | yeah it doesn't look much nicer than what I came up with |
| 20:50.01 | Cryect | Better though |
| 20:50.09 | ckknight | it doesn't utilize AceComm at all |
| 20:50.16 | ckknight | doesn't even bother with memoization |
| 20:50.28 | nymbia | how could the comm be smaller without losing data? |
| 20:50.42 | ckknight | nymbia: memoization |
| 20:51.07 | ckknight | also, you have a whole bunch of things like message:match("^SAVED") |
| 20:51.11 | ckknight | to check what kind it is |
| 20:51.16 | Tornhoof | how do you draw the lines anyway in doodle? |
| 20:51.19 | ckknight | why not send two strings? the command "SAVED", and the data |
| 20:51.22 | Cryect | Yeah the messages should eba single byte |
| 20:51.25 | ckknight | and then memoize the command |
| 20:51.45 | ckknight | or if you are striving for efficiency, you could just do it on a byte-by-byte basis |
| 20:51.45 | nymbia | well the command is only one character anyway |
| 20:51.49 | ckknight | which is probably the best way |
| 20:52.41 | Cryect | IF you are turning it into a library definately the way to go |
| 20:53.03 | ckknight | found a bug, nymbia |
| 20:53.07 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 20:53.12 | nymbia | a line is 1 byte of "L", 9 bytes of coordinates, 6 bytes of color. |
| 20:53.17 | ckknight | Doodle_Sendcolor vs Doodle_SendColor |
| 20:53.18 | nymbia | ckknight: whereat? |
| 20:53.26 | nymbia | ckknight: ah, yea |
| 20:54.07 | Tornhoof | i want real setpixel() functions on textures ;/ |
| 20:54.29 | Cryect | It would be nice if we could edit textures |
| 20:54.41 | Cryect | and have seperate textures for the mask |
| 20:54.59 | Cryect | I think I would be happy if we could just have a seperate mask texture with its own set of coordinates |
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| 20:56.17 | ckknight | nymbia: space could also be optimized if instead of doing %03d, you turned it into two bytes or so |
| 20:56.32 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 20:56.42 | ckknight | Tornhoof: that'd be nice |
| 20:56.44 | nymbia | yeah true |
| 20:56.49 | ckknight | Tornhoof: I want texture rotation without bleeding. |
| 20:57.08 | ckknight | asked for it twice now, no response |
| 20:57.13 | Cryect | Heh |
| 20:57.42 | Tornhoof | i guess it would be too powerful |
| 20:57.42 | ckknight | with that, I'd be able to rotate Ahn'Qiraj properly |
| 20:57.52 | Tornhoof | well not rotation |
| 20:57.55 | Tornhoof | but setpixel |
| 20:58.21 | Cryect | ckknight you precreating the textures or just creating the textures on the fly from the minimap images? |
| 20:58.34 | ckknight | on the fly |
| 20:58.44 | Barbanus | A cool feature to add to a "Cartographer_Doodle" type mod, would be a "Strategy mode" |
| 20:58.59 | Barbanus | where only raid leaders and promoted people can draw on the instance map |
| 20:59.02 | Barbanus | or something |
| 20:59.10 | Tornhoof | with mathml support :D |
| 20:59.24 | Cryect | So if you are creating it on the fly is there the suport then to zoom in on instance maps in cartographer hidden somewhere? |
| 20:59.30 | ckknight | mathml support? |
| 20:59.48 | ckknight | Cryect: not yet |
| 20:59.50 | OverloadUT|Work | What is the "npc" unitid? |
| 20:59.50 | Cryect | that would be pretty crucial for drawing strategies |
| 21:00.06 | Tornhoof | mathml is some markup language to display proper math symbols on webpages |
| 21:00.21 | Barbanus | Cryect, yea .. that would be nice for strategies |
| 21:00.21 | Tornhoof | i could start ingame theorycrafting with that |
| 21:00.25 | ckknight | Tornhoof: yea, but what'd be the point for drawing strategies? |
| 21:00.33 | nymbia | Cryect: actually i dont think i've ever looked at the source for your whiteboard.. the only one i've really messed with was the vaguely ace'd ripoff of it |
| 21:00.42 | Barbanus | zoom into an area, draw out the tank rotation strategy |
| 21:00.57 | Barbanus | perhaps even have icons for types of classes |
| 21:01.06 | Barbanus | wow, this is getting complex, lol |
| 21:01.09 | JoshBorke | Cryect: did you look at the perfomance recommendations i made? |
| 21:01.16 | Cryect | Hmmm whiteboard is pretty simple its just a function to draw lines, a function to send messages, and a function to read them plus some ways to save/load |
| 21:01.38 | Tornhoof | ckknight: none really, i want it anyway ;) |
| 21:01.39 | Cryect | JoshBorke: I've not had a chance to work on it much |
| 21:01.55 | nymbia | Cryect: did you ever see that ripoff of it? it's pretty ugly |
| 21:02.08 | Cryect | nymbia: no is it still up on the svn? |
| 21:02.12 | JoshBorke | nymbia: but it was Ace! |
| 21:02.24 | nymbia | Cryect: last i checked yeah. WhiteboardNG |
| 21:02.54 | nymbia | JoshBorke: lol |
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| 21:03.28 | Uhuru | ckknight it seems to work thx |
| 21:03.34 | Cryect | wtf is with all the raid icon textures in his texture direcotry |
| 21:03.45 | Tornhoof | i want a poker game for wow |
| 21:03.56 | Cryect | there is a few Tornhoof |
| 21:04.14 | Barbanus | problem is ... |
| 21:04.16 | Cryect | I've got a halfworking Uno addon I wrote also but its single player at the moment so.... |
| 21:04.18 | Barbanus | people hack them |
| 21:04.20 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 21:04.28 | Barbanus | and then make it always give them a better hand |
| 21:04.33 | Uhuru | someone know if this is possible to completely detach the pets group frame from the pet owner group frame with aguf ? |
| 21:04.37 | OverloadUT|Work | Simple enough to check that |
| 21:04.47 | nymbia | Cryect: lol seriously, i guess using the internal ones was too hard |
| 21:04.52 | Barbanus | OverloadUT, not when its poker, and they are the dealer |
| 21:04.54 | Tornhoof | i thought of some secure method, but it would require several security methods which are hard and slow to implment |
| 21:05.18 | Tornhoof | you would need to transmit the data secure anyway |
| 21:05.29 | Uhuru | i still got two carto errors |
| 21:05.31 | Tornhoof | since otherwise everyone could listen in on the sendaddonmessage stuff |
| 21:05.47 | OverloadUT|Work | The "dealer" is just a game concept. All clients should use some secure methods to verify that they're all in sync... |
| 21:05.53 | Cryect | nymbia: Overall this looks like a bloated version of my blackboard addon minus no background map images |
| 21:05.54 | Uhuru | ckknight [2007/03/14 22:02:45-308-x1]: Cartographer_Trainers-r30191\addon.lua:296: attempt to index global 'Cartographer_Notes' (a nil value) --- |
| 21:05.55 | OverloadUT|Work | Okay perhaps using the word "simple" was bad :P |
| 21:06.10 | ckknight | Uhuru: Trainers is not mine |
| 21:06.19 | Uhuru | and [2007/03/14 22:02:58-308-x1]: Cartographer_InstanceNotes-2.0\module.lua:42: Babble-Boss-2.2: Translation "Blood Guard Porung" does not exist. |
| 21:06.19 | Uhuru | AceAddon-2.0-28672 (Ace2):455: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:432> |
| 21:06.19 | Uhuru | <in C code>: ? |
| 21:06.19 | Uhuru | AceEvent-2.0-25921 (Ace2):320: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 21:06.19 | Uhuru | AceEvent-2.0-25921 (Ace2):962: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:955> |
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| 21:06.20 | Uhuru | <in C code>: ? |
| 21:06.22 | Uhuru | <in C code>: in function `pcall' |
| 21:06.24 | Uhuru | Cartographer-r30172\Cartographer.lua:830: in function `LoadLoadOnDemandModules' |
| 21:06.26 | Uhuru | Cartographer-r30172\Cartographer.lua:368: in function <Interface\AddOns\Cartographer\Cartographer.lua:224> |
| 21:06.27 | JoshBorke | Uhuru: STOP |
| 21:06.28 | Uhuru | <in C code>: in function `pcall' |
| 21:06.29 | Barbanus | AHhh............. |
| 21:06.30 | Uhuru | AceAddon-2.0-28672 (Ace2):24: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:23> |
| 21:06.32 | Uhuru | AceAddon-2.0-28672 (Ace2):698: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:675> |
| 21:06.34 | Uhuru | <in C code>: ? |
| 21:06.36 | Cryect | a couple lines was plnety Uhuru |
| 21:06.36 | Uhuru | AceEvent-2.0-25921 (Ace2):251: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 21:06.38 | Uhuru | AceEvent-2.0-25921 (Ace2):962: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:955> |
| 21:06.40 | Uhuru | oops sorry for the flood |
| 21:06.42 | nymbia | Cryect: yeah. and that's after i fixed some nasty problems (before i decided to just write doodle) |
| 21:06.45 | JoshBorke | Uhuru: use pastey.net |
| 21:07.12 | Uhuru | http://pastey.net/8356 |
| 21:07.34 | Tornhoof | overload: you would need some keyexchange protocol, some symmetric crypto algo etc. and it would still not solve the problem of a local comprommised copy, since you can't read the lua code of a mod from within the game and the tables are different each time etc. |
| 21:07.52 | Cryect | If you are playing a card game you basically just have to trust your dealer |
| 21:08.00 | Tornhoof | yes |
| 21:08.10 | Cryect | or allow a way for the clients to verify the dealer isn't cheating by afterwards |
| 21:08.13 | JoshBorke | Cryect: why not make the dealing based on a factor from all players? |
| 21:08.17 | Cryect | the dealer gives the clients the random seed |
| 21:08.45 | Barbanus | Cryect, failed already |
| 21:09.00 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30201 10PT3Browser/ (PT3Browser-enUS.lua PT3Browser.lua): |
| 21:09.00 | CIA-18 | PT3Browser: |
| 21:09.00 | CIA-18 | - Recognize LoD modules, give an option to load them. |
| 21:09.02 | Barbanus | the dealer just gave all of the clients a rigged "random" seed |
| 21:09.26 | Cryect | JoshBorke: Because someone doesn't want to spend a long time learning advance cryptography to create a poker game would be the only response to that |
| 21:09.33 | OverloadUT|Work | The seed could be based on server time or something like that |
| 21:09.41 | Tornhoof | won'T work |
| 21:09.48 | semi-_ | let all the clients come up with a seed they distribute to eachother, dealer picks between those and is only allowed to pick a seed that all clients saw come from eachother. |
| 21:09.50 | Barbanus | but how would you know the dealer even used the seed? |
| 21:09.52 | Cryect | Won't work since the dealer can choose what servertime to start |
| 21:09.57 | JoshBorke | semi-_: yea |
| 21:10.09 | Cryect | but if everyone has the seed |
| 21:10.14 | Tornhoof | the random algo can still be changed |
| 21:10.15 | Cryect | they can all determine what cards everyone has |
| 21:10.20 | semi-_ | true |
| 21:10.22 | Tornhoof | not necessarily |
| 21:10.30 | Tornhoof | just distribute hashes |
| 21:10.37 | Tornhoof | everyone gets the hash of the seed in the beginning |
| 21:10.43 | Tornhoof | and after the game has eended |
| 21:10.44 | Cryect | you need a way to generate a random deck via input generate from alll the players |
| 21:10.57 | JoshBorke | OR, you can just tell people not to cheat? |
| 21:10.57 | Cryect | which i've read its in theory possible but quite complex |
| 21:11.01 | Tornhoof | everyone knows the cards of the other players (if opened) and any client can verify them |
| 21:11.16 | Cryect | JoshBorke: thats the way I prefer |
| 21:11.19 | semi-_ | JoshBorke: or better yet, not play with people you don't trust not to cheat. |
| 21:11.20 | OverloadUT|Work | Implement it so that the client handling all of the stuff is not a player in the game, then people would have less reason to hack it ;l) |
| 21:11.35 | OverloadUT|Work | I worded that like crap |
| 21:11.42 | Tornhoof | well the easy way is just round-robin dealer |
| 21:11.47 | Cryect | I mean if I want I know how stack the deck when playing in real life |
| 21:11.53 | OverloadUT|Work | Then people get to take turns cheating ;) |
| 21:11.55 | Cryect | you have to do that Tornhoof basically |
| 21:12.01 | Tornhoof | yah |
| 21:12.06 | Tornhoof | but they can verfiy the used seed |
| 21:12.16 | Tornhoof | after the hand |
| 21:12.23 | Tornhoof | since then you can distribute it freely |
| 21:12.44 | Tornhoof | before it starts everyone gets the hash of it, after the end everyone gets the seed |
| 21:12.52 | Tornhoof | now each client can verify it |
| 21:13.04 | OverloadUT|Work | And auto /ignore if they were cheating! |
| 21:13.15 | Tornhoof | if you force the players to open their cards after the game has ended |
| 21:13.17 | OverloadUT|Work | Or /gkick |
| 21:13.21 | OverloadUT|Work | ;) |
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| 21:13.53 | OverloadUT|Work | Bah just do multiplayer chess. Problem solved ;) |
| 21:14.01 | Tornhoof | a secure keyexchange protocol in lua is ugly anyway |
| 21:14.16 | Tornhoof | doing some diffie-hellman in lua will be slow ;) |
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| 21:32.18 | CIA-18 | DrDamage: |
| 21:32.18 | CIA-18 | -Added Spell Haste buffs. Added missing rank of holy shock. Fixed Ice Lance bonus applying to incorrect spells. Added one more libram. |
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| 21:39.23 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30203 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - made unpackfloat much more efficient. |
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| 21:43.25 | kaiden | Anyone know if there's any way with ag_UnitFrames to create a fake populated raid, just to organize it for your ui's purposes? |
| 21:43.48 | Kemayo | OverloadUT: Yeah, that was my single biggest source of bug reports after 2.0.3 landed. So I felt that checking for it and loudly complaining was the best solution. |
| 21:44.58 | OverloadUT|Work | Kemayo: I've been having the same problem with lots of users complaining that Quixote errors out on a line that doesn't make any sense. They're all using Extended Quest Log |
| 21:45.51 | OverloadUT|Work | I'm almost positive it's this line "if GetNumQuestLeaderBoards(questid) > 0 then" and the error is that you can't compare nil with a number. But that function should never return nil so I think EQL is screwing it up. |
| 21:46.26 | Gagorian | well if it's an invalid questid? |
| 21:47.04 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30204 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/ (InstanceMaps.lua Scripts/pack.lua): Cartographer_InstanceMaps - fix last commit |
| 21:47.05 | OverloadUT|Work | I suppose so but the loop its in should never end up on an invalid questid |
| 21:47.07 | nymbia | might be hooking that function |
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| 21:48.00 | OverloadUT|Work | Might be hooking GetNumQuestLogEntries() as well, and returning bad info, which would cause the said invalid questid Gagorian mentioned |
| 21:48.19 | OverloadUT|Work | So many ways to do bad things when you hook functions :P |
| 21:48.37 | Gagorian | :p |
| 21:48.47 | nymbia | pretty terrible coding practice to destroy the returns of a blizzy API func |
| 21:48.54 | OverloadUT|Work | I've been meaning to try hooking randomn things like getlevel and making it return wacky results, just to see how addons behave |
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| 21:49.52 | OverloadUT|Work | nymbia: Yeah, the only reason I can think of for doing that would be if you are making like, fake custom quests, because then if you fake the results, all quest related addons will understand them as real quests. But you need to be sure you hook EVERY quest related function so they all work... |
| 21:50.13 | nymbia | OverloadUT: yeah |
| 21:50.21 | OverloadUT|Work | That reminds me, has anyone made a PlayerQuests type mod that works? |
| 21:50.36 | OverloadUT|Work | I was following the development of one like 3 years ago when the author fell off the face of the planet |
| 21:50.57 | Kemayo | OverloadUT: I've seen people complain of that, too, and they mostly use EQL. I should really download it myself to try it out. >_> |
| 21:51.05 | Kemayo | What should PlayerQuests do? |
| 21:51.25 | OverloadUT|Work | Allow you to make your own custom quests that you can give to other players (that have the mod of course) |
| 21:51.44 | OverloadUT|Work | So you could make a quest to get bear meat, and it would have your own text and everything, and would function exactly like a real quest |
| 21:51.55 | Kemayo | Haven't seen one like that, no. |
| 21:52.08 | OverloadUT|Work | I think the level of intelligence in this irc channel is such that I don't need to say "No, you won't get an XP reward" |
| 21:52.12 | OverloadUT|Work | Like so many people asked XD |
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| 21:52.30 | nymbia | lol |
| 21:52.37 | OverloadUT|Work | Anyway I was really excited about it to use with friends |
| 21:52.46 | chutwig | these are the questions that plague the minds of many |
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| 21:57.30 | Kemayo | Hooking all the quest functions to make your own fake quests would be such a pain. |
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| 22:03.37 | Razh | hmm |
| 22:04.19 | Razh | i just started coding in the updated 2.0 api, is there any way to get an onclick to target something without inheriting from secure frames? |
| 22:08.52 | ckknight | nope |
| 22:09.30 | Saroz_ | nightbane fear is bugged |
| 22:09.32 | Saroz_ | kk |
| 22:10.35 | nymbia | Saroz_: how so? |
| 22:11.29 | ag` | EU people raiding today? :D |
| 22:11.43 | ag` | Razh: nope |
| 22:12.22 | Saroz_ | nymbia, bigwigs isnt registering it |
| 22:12.40 | Saroz_ | wait |
| 22:12.44 | Saroz_ | encounter is changed |
| 22:12.49 | Saroz_ | in patch it seems? |
| 22:12.50 | Cryect | Yes it is Saroz |
| 22:12.55 | Cryect | Was working yesterday |
| 22:13.12 | Saroz_ | isnt working now, neither bigwigs or deadly bossmods |
| 22:13.29 | vhaarr | Saroz_: Log it, then. |
| 22:13.34 | Saroz_ | I am |
| 22:13.34 | Cryect | Hmm strange was working for me both in Bigwigs and my IMBA addon I never released |
| 22:13.37 | Saroz_ | and debugging |
| 22:14.22 | Cryect | and was kinda going wtf at how easy the fight was yesterday as well in comparison to before |
| 22:14.38 | Saroz_ | shush |
| 22:14.39 | Gnarfoz | doesn't fear while in air anymore, what else changed? |
| 22:14.45 | Saroz_ | it does fear |
| 22:14.47 | Cryect | The fear timer is more regular |
| 22:14.48 | Saroz_ | bigwigs just isnt warning about it |
| 22:14.55 | Saroz_ | I'm transcripting now |
| 22:15.18 | Cryect | Oh wait now that you mention it yeah it never did do the warning |
| 22:15.18 | vhaarr | Did for me. |
| 22:15.30 | Industrial | any forum admins here? |
| 22:15.32 | Cryect | I saw the timer pop up but never a message from bigwigs itself just from imba |
| 22:15.35 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5075.new#new |
| 22:15.37 | Industrial | can we get a lock? |
| 22:15.44 | Industrial | or delete |
| 22:16.11 | Gnarfoz | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81955974&sid=1&pageNo=24 <- I went through all 24 pages of that, hoping I'd find something new... now I am both annoyed at the time wasted and satisfied that I didn't lack a clue about something obvious like many of the guys in that thread ;D |
| 22:16.25 | Industrial | ckknight kergoth SunTiger Tem vhaarr |
| 22:17.13 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30205 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:17.13 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_InstanceMaps - now show the group size in the goto menu |
| 22:17.13 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Battlegrounds - Ibid |
| 22:17.22 | Industrial | wish i could mark posts 'uninteresting' so they would never show up as new anymore :< |
| 22:17.36 | OverloadUT|Work | Now I really want to make my own PlayerQuests mod... |
| 22:18.16 | Saroz_ | wtf |
| 22:18.16 | Saroz_ | nightbane fear is now showing at all |
| 22:18.17 | kergoth | Industrial: agreed. actually, i want that for my email client too. i want to just say 'delete this thread forever' and have it add a rule to delete any new mails from that thread that come in |
| 22:18.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:19.29 | Sutorix | I'd want a playerquests mod that handed out quests to people who ask for water :-) |
| 22:19.57 | Sutorix | What is your quest? What is your favorite color? What is the airspeed of an unladen swallow? |
| 22:19.58 | Industrial | yeah |
| 22:20.09 | Industrial | kergoth: but are you a forum mod? :> |
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| 22:21.15 | Trigalti | Hey |
| 22:21.24 | Trigalti | I've got a question.. |
| 22:21.37 | Trigalti | Downloaded cartographer, which is a great addon.. |
| 22:21.42 | Industrial | Trigalti: well you cant ask it. |
| 22:21.48 | Industrial | just kidding |
| 22:21.49 | Trigalti | Well.. the following.. |
| 22:21.58 | Trigalti | im looking for a database.. |
| 22:22.06 | Trigalti | a guildie tried to share but i only received 2 notes. |
| 22:22.09 | Saroz_ | "<108.3> Nightbane begins to cast Bellowing Roar. -[spell_CvCdmg]-", -- [153] |
| 22:22.11 | Industrial | cant do that against the toc |
| 22:22.17 | Industrial | or eula pick one |
| 22:22.19 | Trigalti | against the toc? |
| 22:22.26 | Trigalti | its illegal? |
| 22:22.27 | Industrial | yes, to share databases like that |
| 22:22.39 | Trigalti | why's that :S? |
| 22:22.46 | Industrial | outside of the game, inside the game its just messages |
| 22:22.48 | Trigalti | same as thottbot right, look it up |
| 22:22.51 | Industrial | its data mining |
| 22:23.03 | ckknight | Trigalti: it's a gray area |
| 22:23.07 | Trigalti | hm.. |
| 22:23.11 | Trigalti | what a waste of a perfect mod.. |
| 22:23.13 | Trigalti | could be so great |
| 22:23.15 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 22:23.22 | Trigalti | for an alt.. its fine |
| 22:23.25 | Gnarfoz | it has a function to share entire node databases? |
| 22:23.27 | Trigalti | but to help u level real fast.. |
| 22:23.31 | Trigalti | ye it has.. |
| 22:23.33 | Gnarfoz | use it |
| 22:23.34 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 22:23.36 | ckknight | your guildie didn't share properly, though |
| 22:23.39 | Industrial | yeah you can dump your db over a channel |
| 22:23.50 | Trigalti | well.. guildie started it at 70 i think |
| 22:23.53 | Trigalti | im 64.5 |
| 22:24.04 | Trigalti | but he shared player to player. |
| 22:24.19 | Trigalti | so no1 has a complete quest database? |
| 22:24.19 | Industrial | blizzard wasnt happy about it with gatherer, Trigalti , and they had to take down sites where you could upload your db file and download the big one |
| 22:24.20 | chutwig | bleh |
| 22:24.20 | chutwig | my realm is not doing well tonight |
| 22:24.32 | Gnarfoz | Industrial: they did not |
| 22:24.36 | Trigalti | well.. how would they find out :S? |
| 22:24.41 | Industrial | oh i thought they did |
| 22:24.45 | Gnarfoz | and indeed, it's none of their business at all |
| 22:24.46 | Trigalti | i dont believe that.. |
| 22:24.56 | Trigalti | than they would have to take down thottbot and wowhead and all the sites as well |
| 22:25.08 | Gnarfoz | gather.reet.org I believe was the main site for that, but it's not up to date anymore anyway |
| 22:25.08 | Trigalti | maybe even the wowace mod.. |
| 22:25.38 | Industrial | nah, ingame is okay - there are even hidden channels built into the game with a patch for it |
| 22:25.49 | Trigalti | well... |
| 22:25.56 | Industrial | anyway, i dont care, i'd share my carto db's but im only level 30 max |
| 22:26.00 | Trigalti | it would be alot handier if i could download some1's db |
| 22:26.07 | Trigalti | 60-70. |
| 22:26.16 | Gnarfoz | I'm too tired to log in right now, but I am sure you can use Cartographer(_Noteshare)'s DB sharing to get his entire herb database, try again :) |
| 22:26.31 | Industrial | i'd love to have yours though, tom.wieland@gmail.com ill reply with mine (to anyone) |
| 22:26.47 | Arrowmaster | join a group with him and tell him to share to group instead of to player |
| 22:27.06 | Arrowmaster | the to player has a lot of spam limitations |
| 22:27.47 | Gnarfoz | that's a good thought, there |
| 22:27.48 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:27.55 | Trigalti | i have nothing yet.. |
| 22:27.59 | Trigalti | started today. |
| 22:28.13 | Trigalti | but ok arrow |
| 22:28.17 | Trigalti | but hes offline now.. |
| 22:28.19 | Trigalti | thx anyway |
| 22:28.31 | Trigalti | any1 on dunemaul server? |
| 22:28.45 | chutwig | too many EU people here! |
| 22:29.22 | ag` | we're pwning kz at the moment :) |
| 22:29.26 | Trigalti | ye eu :p |
| 22:29.30 | Industrial | eu \o/ |
| 22:29.30 | Trigalti | how far in kz are u? |
| 22:29.50 | ag` | we've cleared it |
| 22:29.56 | Industrial | hmm db's are shared throughout servers right? |
| 22:29.57 | ag` | but atm from reset we're at aran |
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| 22:30.09 | Industrial | Trigalti: i can make a char and we can share db's if you like, but i dont have any 60-70 stuff. |
| 22:30.13 | chutwig | Industrial: the db servers are shared by all members of a battlegroup, as far as i know |
| 22:30.22 | Industrial | hmm |
| 22:30.23 | chutwig | we're doing aran and chess tonight |
| 22:30.32 | chutwig | i enjoy the feeling of knowing that if i don't show up they simply cannot do aran |
| 22:30.35 | chutwig | no pressure |
| 22:31.31 | Industrial | Trigalti: interested? |
| 22:31.40 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: huh? :D that's not what this is about, at all ^^ |
| 22:31.54 | chutwig | Gnarfoz: que |
| 22:32.05 | Gnarfoz | he was talking about Cartographer's node databases, not blizzard's back-end database-servers |
| 22:32.20 | chutwig | oic |
| 22:32.27 | chutwig | misinterpreted! |
| 22:32.53 | Industrial | anyone else care to share carto databases?> |
| 22:32.57 | Industrial | on eu' |
| 22:34.37 | Industrial | :( |
| 22:34.47 | OverloadUT|Work | Trigalti: What Cartographer mod are you talking about? |
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| 22:35.42 | Trigalti | ehm.. |
| 22:35.51 | Trigalti | The cartograhper mod.. |
| 22:35.58 | OverloadUT|Work | Herbalism, Mining, Quests, QuestObjectives, etc. |
| 22:36.02 | Industrial | should I use _Treasure or _Opening, btw? |
| 22:36.05 | Trigalti | yes overload. |
| 22:36.30 | Trigalti | and industriall... no thx.. |
| 22:36.30 | Industrial | Trigalti: those are modules and you dont have to have all of them, so thats why he asked. |
| 22:36.36 | Elkano | omg ^^ http://www.darklegacycomics.com/83.jpg |
| 22:36.40 | Trigalti | i know.. i have the modules |
| 22:36.45 | Trigalti | but i need the databases :p |
| 22:36.55 | Trigalti | ph... |
| 22:36.58 | Trigalti | oh... |
| 22:37.00 | Trigalti | quests, mines.. |
| 22:37.02 | Trigalti | those 2 |
| 22:37.02 | Saroz_ | wtf |
| 22:37.07 | Saroz_ | nightbane mod isnt showing anything now |
| 22:37.08 | OverloadUT|Work | Trigalti: You said "so no1 has a complete quest database?" which leads me to believe you're using either Cart_Quests or Cart_QuestObjectives, neither of which come with Cart by default. I made QuestObjectives so I would be interested if it's that you're using and it didn't work. ;) |
| 22:37.09 | Saroz_ | *arggg* |
| 22:37.10 | Industrial | Elkano: lol |
| 22:37.17 | Barbanus | Saroz_, it worked last night for me... |
| 22:37.40 | Barbanus | probably not much of a help .. but thought I would throw it out there |
| 22:37.48 | Saroz_ | :p |
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| 22:38.12 | Barbanus | except there is no infernal spawn timer |
| 22:38.15 | Barbanus | or there wasnt |
| 22:38.20 | Trigalti | ehm.. |
| 22:38.24 | Barbanus | there was the shadow nova / infeeble timer |
| 22:38.29 | Saroz_ | ehh |
| 22:38.32 | Saroz_ | thats prince :p |
| 22:38.35 | Trigalti | im using.. |
| 22:38.43 | Barbanus | Saroz_, ignore me ... haha |
| 22:38.48 | Trigalti | questobjectives. |
| 22:38.48 | Barbanus | brain fart :P |
| 22:38.50 | Trigalti | overload |
| 22:39.00 | Trigalti | Cart_questobjectives.. |
| 22:39.01 | Ominous | JJSheets: any nice new features in line for FB2?/anything you need testing? |
| 22:39.21 | Trigalti | and its working.. |
| 22:39.38 | Industrial | -silently |
| 22:39.38 | Trigalti | but its not doing what i want:p |
| 22:40.32 | Industrial | #1 prio imho |
| 22:40.35 | Industrial | :> |
| 22:40.42 | Barbanus | Trigalti, I hate to be blunt .. but you really aren't making much sense to me right now. |
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| 22:41.17 | JJSheets | Ominous, Not at the moment. |
| 22:41.17 | Barbanus | I can't figure out what problem you are trying to explain |
| 22:41.19 | art3mis | industrial go make me a single frame scrollable xml ;) |
| 22:41.26 | art3mis | that will actually work |
| 22:41.32 | art3mis | and not drive me insane ;P |
| 22:41.52 | Industrial | art3mis: er no, im not making it. |
| 22:41.56 | art3mis | booo |
| 22:42.07 | art3mis | i almost have it, just cant figure out what im doing wrong |
| 22:42.36 | art3mis | only thing i can think that may be hindering it is that i dot want a big ugly slider or ugly frame around it |
| 22:42.53 | art3mis | instead of that fixed size thingy that tablet can do if the frame is too big |
| 22:43.00 | art3mis | THAT would be perfect |
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| 22:43.13 | art3mis | *shakes his fist at ckk* |
| 22:43.22 | OverloadUT|Work | Trigalti: In Cart_QuestObjectives sharing is done differently from all other Cart mods. Instead of your friend "pushing" notes to you, you have to manually "request" notes from your friend. |
| 22:43.39 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 22:43.41 | ckknight | I'll shake your mom's fist |
| 22:43.42 | Ominous | JJSheets: 1 thing, it a button uses type spell then could you make the button have no action id as it currently has action id 1 |
| 22:44.01 | OverloadUT|Work | Trigalti: Just get in a party with your friend, and click on Cartographer>Quest Objectives>Note Sharing>Manual Request>Request From Party>ALL Quests |
| 22:44.05 | art3mis | that tablet thing is still bugging me cuz i cant seem to grasp how to make a scrollie frame like tablet does when the frame gets to big |
| 22:44.28 | art3mis | so yer gonna shake yer ass next time she's over? ;) |
| 22:44.38 | ckknight | art3mis: yea, and it'd be a bitch to make it an arbitrary size, that's why I haven't fixed it yet |
| 22:44.40 | OverloadUT|Work | Trigalti: And then after a couple minutes depending on how big his database is, you should have all of his notes. Of course you won't see any of them on your map unless you are on the quest they are for. You can see ALL of them by turning off "Hide Inactive Quests" |
| 22:44.45 | art3mis | nods |
| 22:44.49 | art3mis | i udnerstand the whys |
| 22:44.58 | art3mis | but im still fisting shakin' ;P |
| 22:45.14 | Trigalti | hm.. |
| 22:45.24 | art3mis | is there any way i could i dunno rename the lib mod what i wanna mod and change all the calls to it in the lua? |
| 22:45.42 | art3mis | or would that require me to rename all the functions as well? |
| 22:45.48 | Trigalti | well overload.. |
| 22:45.51 | Trigalti | still dont ese any.. |
| 22:45.57 | Trigalti | but im going to do it tomorrow |
| 22:45.58 | Trigalti | share again |
| 22:45.59 | art3mis | absically make a mimic lib and use that ONLY for a certain addon |
| 22:46.08 | Trigalti | ah i have to request. |
| 22:46.19 | Trigalti | cool man |
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| 22:46.24 | Trigalti | thx for the explanation |
| 22:46.31 | kergoth | <3 cart quests and cart quest objectives |
| 22:46.32 | art3mis | would that work? or would it be a wasted effort |
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| 22:46.40 | Saroz_ | vhaarr |
| 22:46.41 | kergoth | are there any databases of quests/questobjectives data floating around? |
| 22:46.45 | Saroz_ | any changes made to bigwigs sync? |
| 22:46.46 | Barbanus | kergoth, agreed |
| 22:46.50 | Kinkx | Enfeeble warning doesn't work in the latest BigWigs >< |
| 22:46.51 | Saroz_ | nightbane isnt sending sync's at all |
| 22:47.18 | vhaarr | Saroz_: yeah |
| 22:47.19 | OverloadUT|Work | kergoth: Yes, someone made a thread on the wowace forums |
| 22:47.25 | Industrial | OverloadUT|Work: :O |
| 22:47.30 | OverloadUT|Work | But the next version of QuestObjectives is a whole new awesome amazing beast |
| 22:47.50 | Industrial | i dont really like how questobjectives looks on the map tho |
| 22:47.52 | vhaarr | Saroz_: Try reverting Comm.lua |
| 22:47.58 | Saroz_ | roger |
| 22:48.06 | Industrial | its an icongasm |
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| 22:48.32 | Saroz_ | omg, it's you vhaarr! :p |
| 22:48.34 | Saroz_ | svn blame |
| 22:48.45 | vhaarr | not really, it's just as much ammo |
| 22:48.53 | vhaarr | I proposed it and he agreed it was a good change |
| 22:49.06 | Barbanus | lol |
| 22:49.12 | vhaarr | Saroz_: Revert it, please, if it works after. |
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| 22:49.19 | Saroz_ | I'm on it |
| 22:49.26 | OverloadUT|Work | Industrial: 1) I'd love suggestions especially while I have all the guts all over the floor, and 2) The next version of questobjectives is decentralized from cartographer so it will be able to provide you info outside of Cart. Like you'll be able to do /qfind somemob to see what quests require you to kill them and where they are located. |
| 22:50.27 | Industrial | OverloadUT|Work: ah ok |
| 22:50.33 | kergoth | hmm, tradeskillinfoui needs to use cart to add notes to the map for vendors of recipes |
| 22:50.36 | kergoth | OverloadUT|Work: neat |
| 22:50.44 | OverloadUT|Work | It will also track more information about each quest, so it will know where to go to turn it in (not just where you got it) as well as knowing when quests are chained! |
| 22:51.01 | OverloadUT|Work | (Well, knowing to the best of its ability. It's quite tricky to figure that one out) |
| 22:51.42 | Trigalti | just requested all quests from guild.. |
| 22:51.43 | Trigalti | but overload.. dont u have a nice 60-70 database? |
| 22:51.56 | Barbanus | Trigalti, does anyone in your guild ACTUALLY use it? |
| 22:51.57 | OverloadUT|Work | Me? No way. Coding addons takes too much time :P |
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| 22:52.07 | Industrial | does anyone have the carto database thread? |
| 22:52.10 | Trigalti | ye probably 2-3 people |
| 22:52.19 | Barbanus | Trigalti, are they online? |
| 22:52.50 | OverloadUT|Work | Trigalti: They need to be online, and also check with them what quests they have done since they installed the mod. I only recently released it a few weeks ago so only quests they did during that time will have notes. |
| 22:53.14 | Industrial | never mind |
| 22:53.17 | Barbanus | if they have been 70 .. they probably only have level 70 quests |
| 22:53.19 | Trigalti | hm |
| 22:53.22 | OverloadUT|Work | Industrial: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5092.0 |
| 22:53.23 | Trigalti | 1 is online |
| 22:54.11 | Barbanus | how long ago did he update? |
| 22:54.27 | Saroz_ | Nightbane uses fear every: |
| 22:54.28 | Saroz_ | -52 |
| 22:54.29 | Saroz_ | -61 |
| 22:54.29 | Saroz_ | -58 |
| 22:54.29 | Saroz_ | -56 |
| 22:54.35 | Saroz_ | why cant things be precise |
| 22:54.36 | Saroz_ | ffs |
| 22:54.48 | Stephmw | processor load on the server? |
| 22:54.52 | Stephmw | network lag? |
| 22:54.53 | Trigalti | well.. not getting any quests of the mate.. |
| 22:54.59 | Trigalti | im requesting it in a group now.. |
| 22:55.00 | Trigalti | with him |
| 22:55.10 | Barbanus | most mobs have a cooldown on their fear skill |
| 22:55.25 | Barbanus | and then anything after a certain peroid .. its POSSIBLE he can use it at any time |
| 22:55.45 | Barbanus | like 50 sec cooldown .. and he can use it anytime after that |
| 22:55.45 | kenlyric | it's like repentance on maiden. |
| 22:56.00 | OverloadUT|Work | Trigalti: Keep in mind there is NO feedback when you sync databases |
| 22:56.09 | OverloadUT|Work | You just do the request and they appear on your map |
| 22:56.22 | OverloadUT|Work | I know I know it's horrible that's something that will be better in the next version ;) |
| 22:56.30 | Industrial | OverloadUT|Work: heres an ide abut I dont know what was going on with that with cartographer, have areas instead of icons (the size of the most outer points) :) |
| 22:56.44 | Industrial | i think i heard ck talk about it |
| 22:56.44 | Kinkx | Does the Enfeeble warning on the prince work for anyone here that has the latest BigWigs here? |
| 22:56.53 | Barbanus | Kinkx, it did last night |
| 22:56.59 | OverloadUT|Work | Industrial: Like a circle? |
| 22:57.05 | Industrial | a polygon |
| 22:57.14 | OverloadUT|Work | Can't make custom sized polygons can you? |
| 22:57.21 | Kinkx | I have the latest version, and it's not working, everything else is fine.. except the enfeeble, and it's activated and everything |
| 22:57.26 | vhaarr | Kinkx: I'ts bugged, it'll be fixed in a few minutes. |
| 22:57.31 | Industrial | i dont know, really :P would be nice |
| 22:57.39 | OverloadUT|Work | I agree actually |
| 22:57.41 | Kinkx | Awesome :) |
| 22:57.43 | OverloadUT|Work | I think that would be a much better way to do it |
| 22:58.00 | Barbanus | aparantly one of the other boss mods has a infernal timer for prince |
| 22:58.02 | OverloadUT|Work | I would love to do that if there were already a Cart module to do that. I really hate GUI coding though so it's unlikely that I'd do it myself |
| 22:58.08 | Barbanus | lemme go see if I can find it |
| 22:58.17 | Barbanus | unless its already been added |
| 22:58.22 | Industrial | im gunna shoot it, im gonna shoot it, cause i'm locked and loaaadeeeddd |
| 22:58.42 | Industrial | \m/ -_- \m/ |
| 22:59.29 | Saroz_ | works now vhaarr |
| 22:59.30 | Saroz_ | reverting |
| 22:59.37 | vhaarr | good |
| 23:00.08 | ckknight | OverloadUT: I want to put that in :-P |
| 23:00.12 | ckknight | it'd be complex, though |
| 23:00.50 | OverloadUT|Work | Yeah I imagine so |
| 23:00.56 | OverloadUT|Work | Get on it and I'll be your first user ;) |
| 23:01.08 | Industrial | sometimes its not a polygon/area but a line though, would be bad to show a polycon making it an area where a mob doesnt even walk. |
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| 23:01.57 | Industrial | yeah, tricky :P |
| 23:02.06 | OverloadUT|Work | I was thinking drawing a light circle around each point, such that when the circles overlap they do NOT add their alphas, the end result would be a "cloud like" pattern over where the mobs are |
| 23:02.26 | OverloadUT|Work | I'm pretty sure doing htat would be near impossible in WoW though :( |
| 23:02.46 | OverloadUT|Work | That way if it were a line or a big clumping they would both look okay |
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| 23:02.53 | Industrial | the problem is though with _QuestObjectives that it shows ALL quest objectives and I dont even know what is what anymore in an area with alot of different stuff |
| 23:03.12 | Industrial | so I cant really see what the area for a specific mob in that area is |
| 23:03.22 | vhaarr | Saroz_: wassap, where's the commit |
| 23:03.24 | OverloadUT|Work | Industrial: It only shows objectives for quests you are on and have not completed the objective |
| 23:03.27 | kergoth | well, it only sohws objectives which you havent yet completed for quests you havent yet completed.. |
| 23:03.37 | OverloadUT|Work | Also, you can turn on the "Only show tracked" option if you use the quest tracker |
| 23:03.44 | OverloadUT|Work | Then it will only show quests you shift click in the quest log |
| 23:03.55 | vhaarr | Saroz_: if you don't do it within 1min, I'll do it |
| 23:04.00 | vhaarr | Saroz_: we're at prince as well |
| 23:04.13 | OverloadUT|Work | The next version will "highlight" all of the icons that are for the same objective of the icon you are current mouse-overing, if that makes sense |
| 23:04.26 | Industrial | i dont use that trackers because it puts things in a specific order (the order you click them on) and it forgets them every time.. |
| 23:04.33 | Industrial | s/trackers/tracker/ |
| 23:04.48 | Industrial | OverloadUT|Work: ah, good :D |
| 23:05.09 | OverloadUT|Work | Yeah I don't use a tracker either. Although you could make the tracker frame invisible and just use the invisible tracker to hide and show QuestObjective icons on the map ;) |
| 23:05.10 | kergoth | hehe, Karma: +8/-44 for me on wowace.. not yet on par with indy, but getting there |
| 23:05.12 | kergoth | :P |
| 23:05.24 | Industrial | :> |
| 23:05.31 | ckknight | why so much hate? |
| 23:05.38 | Industrial | well its obvious with me |
| 23:05.41 | Saroz_ | vhaarr, on it |
| 23:05.44 | vhaarr | Saroz_: you're slow |
| 23:05.50 | kergoth | probably when i did the svn changes, stupid whiny developers |
| 23:05.52 | Saroz_ | was modding nightbane mod |
| 23:05.53 | Barbanus | so Deadly Boss Mods has the infernal timer for prince |
| 23:06.00 | Industrial | i'd rather see the whole karma thing gone though |
| 23:06.17 | vhaarr | Barbanus: BW has it as well, you're just using the development version and not the one released on Curse. |
| 23:06.18 | OverloadUT|Work | Imagine this feature: You go to a new area and do something like /powerlevel and it will generate a list of things to do. "Go to 55,60" "Accept Quest 'Some dude's quest'" "Go to 70,32" "Kill wolves" etc. |
| 23:06.21 | kergoth | a karma system can be a useful thing, but the one in the forum is weak at best |
| 23:06.22 | CIA-18 | 03saroz * r30206 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: Reverting sync tweaks |
| 23:06.34 | OverloadUT|Work | It would calculate the most efficient "path" of quests to do so that you travel the least but complete all of the quests |
| 23:06.37 | kergoth | a proper system considers the karma of the person who's voting your karma up or down when adjusting yours.. |
| 23:06.37 | Industrial | OverloadUT|Work: heh :) |
| 23:06.50 | Barbanus | vhaarr, when was that added ... it wasnt working last night. I updated yesterday evening (US time) |
| 23:06.53 | Choumarin | Hi, I've applied for a svn account, I'd like to know how long it usualy takes ? |
| 23:06.59 | Bruners | ckknight: could you add that the waypoint includes cords on the screen ? |
| 23:07.06 | OverloadUT|Work | Choumarin: Took 3 days for mwe |
| 23:07.11 | kergoth | OverloadUT|Work: heh, that sounds like what indy's bene talking about for a "guide" addon.. thatd kick ass |
| 23:07.12 | JJSheets | Choumarin, a few days at most |
| 23:07.14 | ckknight | Bruners: not mine |
| 23:07.15 | vhaarr | Barbanus: It has been working since we added the module, long before DBM did. |
| 23:07.21 | Barbanus | hmmmm |
| 23:07.21 | Bruners | ckknight: kk |
| 23:07.29 | OverloadUT|Work | That feature is just in the idea phase, but I would love to try my hand at the pathfinding code it would require |
| 23:07.39 | Choumarin | k, thx all :) |
| 23:07.52 | Barbanus | vhaarr did it work for you tonight? |
| 23:08.06 | OverloadUT|Work | The most important part would be knowing which quests require other quests to be completed though. |
| 23:08.13 | OverloadUT|Work | And that's the biggest feature breaker |
| 23:08.26 | Silviu- | vhaarr tonight i did not have eighter some bars for infernals ... |
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| 23:08.32 | Silviu- | at Prince |
| 23:09.07 | Barbanus | Silviu-, "eighter some"? |
| 23:09.19 | vhaarr | I'm doing him *right now*, and everything is working just fine. |
| 23:09.23 | vid`` | hmm |
| 23:09.25 | vhaarr | With the latest Comm commit. |
| 23:09.29 | vid`` | so paging with hotkeys "WAS" removed |
| 23:09.30 | vid`` | from BT3 |
| 23:09.37 | vid`` | according to the wowace forums |
| 23:09.38 | vid`` | gay |
| 23:09.38 | vid`` | :( |
| 23:09.52 | Barbanus | weird, last night the infeeble / shadow nova timers worked .. but the infernal ones didnt |
| 23:09.58 | vid` | now you have to hold down a modifier to make the page change |
| 23:10.04 | vid` | you cant scroll through all the hotbars |
| 23:10.29 | Silviu- | Barbanus tonight at prince i had 0 timers ... nothing :) |
| 23:10.42 | Silviu- | Maybe yes was that Comm commit earlier who knows |
| 23:10.46 | Silviu- | Now he is dead :) |
| 23:10.52 | Barbanus | Silviu-, oh thats the comm commit problem probably |
| 23:11.38 | CIA-18 | 03zuno * r30207 10UnitActionBars/ (14 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:11.38 | CIA-18 | UnitActionBars: |
| 23:11.38 | CIA-18 | - Moved config dialog XML to cfgdlg directory |
| 23:11.38 | CIA-18 | - Added internals for additional "dump" functionality |
| 23:11.38 | CIA-18 | - Added support for enables actions independently for each action set |
| 23:11.59 | Saroz_ | vhaarr, is this correct syntax: self:Message(L["blast_message"], "Urgent", nil, "Alert") |
| 23:12.00 | Saroz_ | ? |
| 23:12.11 | CIA-18 | 03zuno * r30208 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc: |
| 23:12.11 | CIA-18 | UnitActionBars: |
| 23:12.11 | CIA-18 | - TOC Revision update |
| 23:12.48 | Saroz_ | Nightbane is soo incomplete |
| 23:12.48 | Saroz_ | there are like config options which have no effect |
| 23:13.07 | OverloadUT|Work | Happy Pi Day everybody. |
| 23:13.18 | Barbanus | lol I went for pie at 3:14 :P |
| 23:13.28 | OverloadUT|Work | Wow you win the award |
| 23:13.40 | Barbanus | The biggest geek award? |
| 23:13.43 | OverloadUT|Work | Yes |
| 23:13.46 | OverloadUT|Work | By a long shot ;) |
| 23:13.56 | vhaarr | Saroz_: yes |
| 23:13.58 | Saroz_ | k |
| 23:14.01 | Saroz_ | just looked odd |
| 23:14.01 | JJSheets | I don't even recognize a "pi day" |
| 23:14.04 | vhaarr | Saroz_: All modules are working fine now. |
| 23:14.15 | Barbanus | actually .. one of our programmers told me that it was "pie day" and I didnt realize he meant "pi day" |
| 23:14.20 | Saroz_ | vhaarr, yea but wanna extend the nightbane mod |
| 23:14.25 | Saroz_ | fear timers are like way off |
| 23:14.48 | OverloadUT|Work | It's also Einstein's birthday ironically |
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| 23:15.47 | Barbanus | and aparantly 3/14 1:59:26 is "pi second" |
| 23:16.07 | OverloadUT|Work | Haha never heard that one but it makes sense |
| 23:16.37 | Gnarfoz | yesterday was steak & blowjob day |
| 23:17.03 | Barbanus | rofl... |
| 23:17.45 | Gnarfoz | in realtion to valentine's day, 14.2., steak & blowjob day is the male opposite, on 14.3. :D |
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| 23:18.22 | JJSheets | ah, steak and BJ day. The best day of the year. |
| 23:18.40 | Barbanus | some people call 7/22 pi day ... but I will not accept that |
| 23:18.56 | Gnarfoz | what sense does that make, anyway |
| 23:19.03 | Barbanus | or 22/7 depending on your country |
| 23:19.09 | Barbanus | 22/7 = 3.14.... |
| 23:19.26 | OverloadUT|Work | 22/7 is generally used as a decent substitute for Pi because it's pretty close |
| 23:19.28 | OverloadUT|Work | So here's your fun fact for the day: If you wanted to find the circumference of a circle the size of the known universe, and wanted it to be accurate to within the radius of a single proton, you would need this many digits of Pi: |
| 23:19.40 | Gnarfoz | ah, 22/7 |
| 23:19.40 | OverloadUT|Work | Thirty Nine. |
| 23:19.52 | chuckg | A memorial should be resurrected in this guys name: http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/37896d1173845762-funny-strange-random-pics-sparta.jpg |
| 23:19.53 | Barbanus | thats not bad |
| 23:19.59 | JJSheets | wow only thirty nine? that's amazingly small... |
| 23:20.07 | OverloadUT|Work | Yeah |
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| 23:20.29 | JJSheets | then what the bloody hell do we need any more digits for? :) |
| 23:20.34 | OverloadUT|Work | Apparently it's very easy to calculate what's needed. For each "order of magnitude" you need one digit. |
| 23:21.19 | OverloadUT|Work | JJSheets: Hehe exactly, that's why I like it has a fun fact. We only need more digits for the math version of epeen :P |
| 23:21.23 | Amadeo | Any Chronometer alternatives? |
| 23:21.24 | Barbanus | 355/113 = 7 digit accuracy |
| 23:21.32 | Barbanus | so thats a better version of pi :P |
| 23:21.38 | chuckg | Natur Enemy Casting Bar tracks debuff cast by the player. |
| 23:21.55 | chuckg | I've moved over to it because Chronometer is deleting obviously actie debuffs in raids. |
| 23:22.03 | chuckg | When I'm only on a single target :( |
| 23:22.06 | Amadeo | Yeah, I find Chronometer to be unreliable |
| 23:22.19 | chuckg | I'll cast COD and have it disappear with 40 seconds left. |
| 23:22.23 | chuckg | Makes no sense. |
| 23:22.24 | Gnarfoz | chuckg: lol nice |
| 23:22.32 | chuckg | The 4chan? Ya. |
| 23:22.37 | chuckg | I wil vote for that man for congress. |
| 23:22.49 | Amadeo | Is Natur's efficient? It's a big addon, last I saw it |
| 23:22.53 | chuckg | Yes. |
| 23:23.04 | chuckg | It's even modularized. |
| 23:23.13 | Amadeo | works for me then |
| 23:23.23 | chuckg | Just remove the pve/pvp aspects. |
| 23:23.30 | chuckg | That leaves you with casting bars on your target and debuffs. |
| 23:23.52 | Amadeo | I mainly just want it to track my Rogue stuns and saps, etc |
| 23:24.06 | chuckg | It'll do that, including the DR if you leave hte pvp part in. |
| 23:24.38 | Amadeo | I used to use it a really long time ago |
| 23:25.05 | Amadeo | but I think the 600K zip file has been scaring me away as features were added |
| 23:25.45 | chuckg | Well that's fonts. |
| 23:25.48 | chuckg | In part. |
| 23:26.01 | Amadeo | I see |
| 23:26.04 | chuckg | Textures. |
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| 23:26.09 | chuckg | Sounds. |
| 23:26.29 | Barbanus | This is the best politcal press conference ever... |
| 23:26.29 | chuckg | It'll tell you how much UI memory it occupies even. |
| 23:26.29 | Barbanus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wdOyiaAloU |
| 23:26.49 | Amadeo | hah |
| 23:27.02 | Amadeo | Yeah, but who's going to help me find a place to put all the damn bars? :) |
| 23:27.47 | OverloadUT|Work | The only thing I don't like about Natur's bars is the fact that everything is stored per character |
| 23:27.57 | OverloadUT|Work | So I have to do my manual set up on every single stupid character grrrr |
| 23:28.15 | chuckg | Move the saved variables file and change the char name? |
| 23:28.41 | Amadeo | kurenai!? |
| 23:29.02 | Amadeo | those are in WoW! |
| 23:29.03 | Affinity | crimson in Japanese |
| 23:29.37 | Amadeo | good to know :) |
| 23:30.08 | OverloadUT|Work | chuckg: Yeah, that's the the author said |
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| 23:30.31 | OverloadUT|Work | But every time I want to tweak something (which I do often :D) then I would have to copy the file to every character's folder again |
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| 23:37.19 | Industrial | < Affinity> crimson in Japanese |
| 23:37.22 | Industrial | yeah :D |
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| 23:42.24 | CIA-18 | 03laotseu * r30210 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.toc: |
| 23:42.24 | CIA-18 | AllPlayed: |
| 23:42.24 | CIA-18 | - Change to version 20003-4 in preparation for release |
| 23:44.23 | nymbia | 20004? huh? |
| 23:44.40 | Chompers | :/ |
| 23:44.42 | vhaarr | 20003-4 |
| 23:44.49 | vhaarr | it's his version number |
| 23:44.57 | Industrial | :s |
| 23:45.00 | nymbia | ah |
| 23:45.02 | Industrial | Anyone here play paladin? |
| 23:45.11 | Gnarfoz | I do, since recently |
| 23:45.26 | Industrial | I want to know what seal is better, Righteousness or Crusader |
| 23:45.27 | Gnarfoz | because my high-level chars bore me do death atm |
| 23:46.04 | Gnarfoz | judge crusader, seal righteousness on high armor mobs; seal crusader on casters because of less damage mitigation? |
| 23:46.06 | Industrial | right now i judge righteousness whenever its cooldown is over and turn it on immediately again (i regen more then that uses befor eht cooldown is over anyway at level 9) |
| 23:46.10 | Gnarfoz | that's what I do, anyway |
| 23:46.34 | Gnarfoz | ah yes, of course with crusader judged, I also judge righteousness afterwards whenever I can |
| 23:46.46 | Industrial | hm ok |
| 23:46.58 | Industrial | and i just died while afk |
| 23:47.00 | Industrial | lol |
| 23:47.06 | Gnarfoz | paladins DON'T DIE |
| 23:47.07 | Gnarfoz | LIAR |
| 23:47.08 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 23:47.20 | Industrial | :p |
| 23:47.24 | NightHawkTheSane | afk ones do |
| 23:47.26 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 23:47.38 | Industrial | any advice on spec? i thought protection |
| 23:47.44 | Gnarfoz | me too :D |
| 23:48.14 | Gnarfoz | seriously, even at level 20, protection is cool. that 'things you noticed about yourself when you specced prot'-thread on the US paladin forums made my choice what to do in this 'bored phase' easy :> |
| 23:48.41 | Industrial | well and got a link? I never visit those forums |
| 23:48.57 | Gnarfoz | it starts to get seriously crazy when you can finally skill reckoning at about... 31? |
| 23:49.03 | Industrial | -well and |
| 23:50.18 | ckknight | yep |
| 23:50.23 | ckknight | I'm lvl 33 prot pally now |
| 23:53.04 | Cyrez | My pally is only 22 now. The first thing I shot for was Blessing of Kings and people love me for it, lol. |
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| 23:53.26 | NightHawkTheSane | you know what sucks? when your friends aren't good players, and you dont want to tell them |
| 23:53.52 | break19 | know what else sucks, when your friends wont be honest with you and tell you that you suck. :) |
| 23:54.10 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: well, i don't have -that- problem, so :) |
| 23:54.36 | break19 | are ya sure? or maybe they just dont tell you :P |
| 23:54.58 | Industrial | How's this? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=qZE0xcb0zxtEoEb0u0b |
| 23:55.07 | Gnarfoz | nah, I know that, too... on of my colleagues is in my guild too, and he's brain-afk all the time -.- |
| 23:56.04 | Gnarfoz | imp ret aura seems nice to enhance prot multi-grinding (if that's what you want to do), don't really know if the rest of the ret tree has any big benefits to offer |
| 23:56.13 | Cyrez | I've essentially been told that I play like I have a 70 already even though I'm not even half way there. |
| 23:56.29 | Industrial | yeah taking on a bunch of enemies seems fun |
| 23:56.46 | Industrial | up until now ive played hunter most and taking on mob after mob and.. winning all the time is so boring |
| 23:57.07 | Industrial | hunter pve = most boring ever, well solo anyway |
| 23:57.15 | Amadeo | ckknight: Wow, you rerolled? |
| 23:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | but sadly. I just wiped 3 times on durnholde with my friend (67 pally), his brother (70 hunter), friend (66 warrior), and some random 69 mage. >< |
| 23:57.24 | ckknight | Amadeo: yea :-P |
| 23:57.30 | ckknight | Amadeo: turns out Blizz doesn't care about Shamans |
| 23:57.50 | Industrial | shammies used to be the pet class of blizz |
| 23:57.52 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:58.04 | Amadeo | haha |
| 23:58.09 | Industrial | and i died again |
| 23:58.14 | Amadeo | Do you like being a Paladin? |
| 23:59.06 | Gnarfoz | (dunno about him, I do so far, though) |
| 23:59.28 | ckknight | Amadeo: it's pretty cool |
| 23:59.31 | Amadeo | I've been working on a Rogue...really early levels were awful, but I'm starting to come into my own at 30+ |
