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| 00:01.32 | Ominous_ | dam internet!, always goes at midnight |
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| 00:05.11 | NeoTron | so they trick you with tailoring - it starts out cheap, relatively speaking |
| 00:05.18 | NeoTron | up all the way to 340ish or so it's not ba |
| 00:05.19 | NeoTron | bad |
| 00:05.26 | NeoTron | then... not so cheap anymore :P |
| 00:05.35 | ag` | it just sucks how much tailoring rocks |
| 00:05.39 | Chompers | same with blacksmithing |
| 00:05.46 | ag` | it's worlds better than the stuff you can get in Kz |
| 00:05.51 | NeoTron | yep |
| 00:05.51 | ag` | the shadowcloth set |
| 00:05.52 | Chompers | 8 felsteel bars is not funny |
| 00:05.56 | NeoTron | that's why I'm doing it |
| 00:06.09 | NeoTron | jewelcrafting is pretty much expensive all the way |
| 00:06.10 | ag` | and it pisses me off you HAVE to have tailoring if you want to min/max |
| 00:06.19 | NeoTron | well see it this way |
| 00:06.27 | NeoTron | with jewelcrafting there's almost no reason to actually have it |
| 00:06.30 | NeoTron | which do you prefer? |
| 00:06.39 | ag` | same with Herbalism |
| 00:07.02 | ag` | I just think it sucks how you're almost forced to respec to tailoring to get the best gear |
| 00:07.08 | Cryect | ag how about its worlds better than the stuff you get in SSC also |
| 00:07.26 | ag` | yeah it's pretty much the best |
| 00:07.30 | ag` | it annoys me |
| 00:08.01 | ag` | I could do tailoring, I have herbalism which doesn't provide many benefits and is easy to get to 375 again |
| 00:08.09 | ag` | It's just a principle |
| 00:08.15 | Chompers | i just made 2 peicees of the felsteel set, hope its better than my blue instance gear |
| 00:08.17 | Chompers | :/ |
| 00:08.23 | ZealotOnAStick | ~seen phyber |
| 00:08.57 | purl | phyber is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 3d 4h 35m 48s, last said: 'paste because #scummvm != #wowace'. |
| 00:08.57 | Cryect | I can't imagine raiding without herbalism |
| 00:08.57 | ag` | I think it's wrong that I would have to respec to tailoring to get such a huge advantage :P |
| 00:08.57 | NeoTron | so far now it is the best |
| 00:08.57 | ag` | Cryect: herb on an alt, alch/tailoring on main |
| 00:08.57 | NeoTron | but I'd rather se eprofessions have unique rewards |
| 00:09.07 | Cryect | why have alch on a main unless you use the alchemist stone then of course |
| 00:09.11 | NeoTron | but it shouldn't be specific to two professions (blacksmithing and tailoring) |
| 00:09.16 | ag` | NeoTron: yes, and I agree they should be powerful, but the BoP sets own everything in the game too much atm |
| 00:09.21 | NeoTron | alchemy has transmutes |
| 00:09.32 | NeoTron | they aren't quite comparable byt something that's nice to have |
| 00:09.34 | ag` | Cryect: it's alchemy :D |
| 00:09.44 | Cryect | If it wasn't for the alchemist stone I prolly would have dropped it on my druid |
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| 00:09.59 | NeoTron | and the sets are a bit bad |
| 00:10.05 | ag` | alch is nice, my point is everyone is dropping herb for tailoring |
| 00:10.06 | NeoTron | they should have, for warlock for example, 3 sets |
| 00:10.13 | NeoTron | one shadow, one fire and one generic |
| 00:10.16 | ag` | there's no reason to have herb on your main |
| 00:10.23 | Cryect | yeah |
| 00:10.34 | ag` | what, for those BoP buffs you get from herbs? Give me a break |
| 00:10.36 | NeoTron | and priests need a shadow dps set |
| 00:10.44 | vhaarr | ag`: Except that you'll most likely have epic flying mount on your main. |
| 00:10.45 | NeoTron | the existing dps sets sucks for shadow priests |
| 00:10.53 | phyber | ZealotOnAStick: sup |
| 00:10.55 | NeoTron | and druids need a cat set and a bear set, not a feral set |
| 00:11.05 | NeoTron | basically they need to fix itemization to compete |
| 00:11.07 | ag` | vhaarr: I use the stuff for potions for myself :( |
| 00:11.12 | Bruners | ag`: only reason to have it your main is that your spend most time on it = more herbs |
| 00:11.27 | NeoTron | and herbs will continue being a great moneymaker forever |
| 00:11.30 | vhaarr | ag`: yes, me too, but the point is that with herbalism on your main, gathering is faster, since you'll have epic flying mount on him. |
| 00:11.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Wanted to see what your feelings would be about adding Voyeur to the opt-deps line on Fizzle, as that seems to make them both play along well and work with at least tekKompare. |
| 00:11.42 | ag` | vhaarr: yes, that's true |
| 00:12.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Though I should probably try it the other way around too, and see if adding Fizzle to Voyeur's opt-depts achieves the same. Hrm. |
| 00:12.03 | NeoTron | are there any BoP jewelcrafting patterns in Karazhan btw? |
| 00:12.11 | Cryect | yes |
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| 00:12.13 | ag` | but it still annoys me how lame herb/engi can seem compared to the stuff you can make from shadowcloth |
| 00:12.14 | phyber | what's Voyeur? :) |
| 00:12.15 | Cryect | but just from the vnendor |
| 00:12.21 | NeoTron | yeah I got those |
| 00:12.24 | NeoTron | mostly thinking about drops |
| 00:12.35 | Cryect | I don't think there is any drops |
| 00:12.36 | ZealotOnAStick | an inspect mod. Sort of a reborn GoodInspect, working within current WoW limitations. |
| 00:12.36 | phyber | ctuallt, I'll just check the sVN :) |
| 00:12.40 | NeoTron | trying to set up two karazhan raid and I wonder if having the two guild JCs in the same group is bad or not |
| 00:12.42 | phyber | oh, nice :) |
| 00:13.20 | OverloadUT|Work | Does anybody know when a quest would ever return false from IsQuestCompletable()? |
| 00:13.33 | ckknight | failed? |
| 00:14.05 | abyssichate | Is US getting any minipatch? |
| 00:14.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Maybe some of those quests that show as "Completed" as soon as you accept them, even though there's still something you actually have to do? |
| 00:14.23 | Cryect | don't think so too early to tell for sure |
| 00:14.26 | trh | OverloadUT: if it's failed maybe? |
| 00:14.26 | phyber | ZealotOnAStick: leave me a message about it if something needs changing, going for some sleep now :) |
| 00:14.43 | OverloadUT|Work | Failed makes sense |
| 00:15.02 | trh | OverloadUT|Work: but i never tried.. it's just a wild guess |
| 00:15.07 | ag` | when will 2.1.0 come out :( |
| 00:15.14 | ckknight | ag`: never |
| 00:15.17 | Cryect | And btw Pie though not quite the most eloquent solution I like but was simple and fast to implement http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4926/piezd9.jpg |
| 00:15.25 | Cryect | 2.1.0 will be on PTR first |
| 00:15.30 | ckknight | how'd you do it, Cryect? |
| 00:15.33 | Cryect | and will likely be up for 3 to 4 weeks |
| 00:15.35 | ag` | ckknight: you mean right before Duke Nukem Forever? |
| 00:15.41 | Cryect | 100x 1% Pie Slices >_> |
| 00:15.46 | ckknight | icky |
| 00:15.53 | Chompers | or stalker |
| 00:15.58 | ag` | man I can wait for that game |
| 00:16.10 | ag` | it's going to be either super great, or very bad and outdated |
| 00:16.17 | Chompers | dnf? |
| 00:16.18 | ag` | I am fearing a Daikatana |
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| 00:16.20 | ag` | yeah |
| 00:16.22 | Chompers | hehe |
| 00:16.24 | Cryect | Yeah rather move at least to power of 2 pie slices or figure out a better way though can't quite do enough with textures :-/ |
| 00:16.38 | Chompers | you remember reading about it what, 5 years ago? |
| 00:16.43 | Chompers | sounded amazing |
| 00:16.53 | ag` | they changed game engine 3 times or something |
| 00:16.57 | Chompers | yeah |
| 00:17.03 | Chompers | and no proper AI now |
| 00:17.10 | ag` | huh? :P |
| 00:17.14 | Cryect | If I only could have a mask texture and a color texture with different texture coordinates |
| 00:17.34 | Chompers | that virtual life for the creatures, they could never make it work correctly |
| 00:17.39 | Cryect | [20:16] <Chompers> you remember reading about it what, 5 years ago? |
| 00:17.43 | Cryect | Heh longer than that |
| 00:17.46 | vhaarr | 5 years? |
| 00:17.47 | Chompers | so they had to fake alot of it |
| 00:17.48 | vhaarr | a lot longer |
| 00:17.52 | Cryect | Lets see first heard about sophomore year of High School |
| 00:18.00 | semi- | that was a good 8 years at least |
| 00:18.05 | vhaarr | it was like 1998? |
| 00:18.07 | Cryect | and that was uhhh 9 years ago? |
| 00:18.08 | vhaarr | or earlier |
| 00:18.09 | semi- | it was originally quake1 engine which came out in 96 |
| 00:18.17 | vhaarr | yes |
| 00:18.22 | CIA-18 | 03darchon * r30066 10MountMe/ (ItemSwap.lua Libs/ MountMe.toc): |
| 00:18.22 | CIA-18 | MountMe: |
| 00:18.22 | CIA-18 | - some libs still need to work |
| 00:18.25 | Chompers | stalker was quake engine ? |
| 00:18.27 | vhaarr | then q2, then UT? |
| 00:18.31 | semi- | sounds right |
| 00:18.32 | ag` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dnf1.jpg |
| 00:18.34 | semi- | no idea what its on now |
| 00:18.34 | Chompers | wow, i never knew that |
| 00:18.58 | vhaarr | I remember watching the "demo" many, many years ago. |
| 00:19.07 | snurre- | are there any mods that store bank data but without a big gui that takes up lots of loading time/mem? |
| 00:19.08 | Bruners | ag`: is there a problem watching pet's health with your frames ? |
| 00:19.10 | vhaarr | with the character riding a motor bike and in a helicopter of some sort |
| 00:19.14 | Cryect | heh it was a big thing when you somehow played more DN3D and Quake in your computer classes instead of whatever we supposedly were doing |
| 00:19.17 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30067 10BigWigs/Outland/Kazzak.lua: |
| 00:19.17 | CIA-18 | BigWigs: Outland/Kazzak: |
| 00:19.17 | CIA-18 | - fix enrage, now repeats, clarify 50-60sec |
| 00:19.17 | CIA-18 | - checkforwipe |
| 00:19.43 | Bruners | ag`: other people pets that is |
| 00:19.45 | Funkeh` | kazzak down \o/ finally got more than 25 online |
| 00:19.52 | vhaarr | 1997, I guessed 1998, so I was pretty close :P |
| 00:20.28 | ag` | Bruners: no, my addon is fine, world of warcraft is not |
| 00:20.48 | Bruners | ag`: so its wow that is the problem ? |
| 00:21.03 | ag` | if it was regarding players health it would be fixed long time ago, but I guess blizzard doesn't care about pets :P |
| 00:21.54 | snurre- | christ vials are expensive :/ |
| 00:22.29 | ag` | I am going to punch the guy that came up with the idea that ALL outlands potions should use Imbued Vials |
| 00:22.48 | OverloadUT|Work | How much does one cost? |
| 00:22.56 | snurre- | 3g for 5 |
| 00:23.01 | OverloadUT|Work | Yeesh |
| 00:23.17 | snurre- | i just made pots for 291g |
| 00:23.26 | ckknight | Cryect: yea, it seems like have powers of two for pie slices could be the best approach |
| 00:23.59 | chuckg | ag`, did the hit box for clicking on players/player/target change somehow? |
| 00:24.07 | chuckg | It seems a lot more finicky that previous pushes. |
| 00:24.21 | chuckg | s/that/than |
| 00:25.09 | Cryect | ckknight: yeah, I just wanted to see how well it worked with 1% slices before creating a bunch of textures |
| 00:25.22 | Barbanus | anyone know of a mod that works well with aguf to give you mana in druid cat/bear forms? |
| 00:25.44 | Barbanus | or does such a thing exist? |
| 00:25.53 | Cryect | There is addons for it |
| 00:25.57 | Cryect | like AceDruidBar |
| 00:26.04 | ckknight | Cryect: I'd personally go with 50%, 25%, 12.5%, 6.25% and so forth, down to just below 1% or 0.5% or so |
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| 00:26.25 | knarf^ | is there any way to test AceComm with only 1 player? :S |
| 00:26.36 | trh | knarf^: send whispers to yourself |
| 00:26.50 | knarf^ | I guess |
| 00:27.16 | ag` | instead of sending Comm |
| 00:27.32 | ag` | make your own addon eat it and send it to your receive method |
| 00:27.39 | art3mis | hrm |
| 00:28.00 | ag` | or borrow an account and run two wows :S |
| 00:28.12 | knarf^ | Ye I guess :) |
| 00:28.51 | art3mis | http://edgeofnowhere.cc/viewtopic.php?t=344174&sid=9a70f5f521bf11087ea06954c97eb5fa <-- auto it whisper bot |
| 00:29.16 | art3mis | whow as it that said the detached tooltip for questfu has mouse scrollie function? |
| 00:29.16 | knarf^ | art3mis hehe, hanging out on edgeofnowhere :P |
| 00:29.25 | art3mis | have been since the wowemu days ;P |
| 00:29.36 | knarf^ | i've been there on and off :) |
| 00:29.45 | art3mis | there are smoe good things on there |
| 00:29.48 | art3mis | like the fish bot |
| 00:29.51 | knarf^ | talked/worked alittle with the LudMilla ppl :) |
| 00:29.52 | art3mis | cuz im lazy ;) |
| 00:30.03 | art3mis | heh released a wowemu repack ;P |
| 00:30.10 | art3mis | was part of uwc for a while |
| 00:30.21 | knarf^ | funny :) |
| 00:30.46 | knarf^ | we are on the mmorpg channel both :P |
| 00:30.53 | knarf^ | here on freenode :) |
| 00:31.05 | knarf^ | the dev one |
| 00:31.27 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 00:31.36 | Cryect | EoN though didn't have too much in the way of good stuff I would say, was a good check though I found on seeing what knowledge on various exploits were public though |
| 00:31.44 | art3mis | used to idle there back when mangops was just starting |
| 00:32.00 | art3mis | yeah |
| 00:32.30 | art3mis | there's alsot aht other one mmowned |
| 00:32.43 | art3mis | most of the stuff is stupid but its still fun to check frmo time to time |
| 00:33.32 | knarf^ | :P |
| 00:33.36 | Cryect | Yeah I check up on both occasioanlly to see what people come up with, since I no longer have my group of followers to poke in coming up with amusing things to interest me at NoggAholic anymore :p |
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| 00:34.44 | ckknight | art3mis: clever |
| 00:35.40 | FtH|Daemona | :/ |
| 00:35.48 | FtH|Daemona | why break lions? |
| 00:35.53 | Cryect | why not lions |
| 00:36.55 | Chompers | bears are worse |
| 00:37.20 | Chompers | or those flying squirrels |
| 00:37.23 | art3mis | clever? |
| 00:39.47 | ckknight | art3mis: the bot |
| 00:40.14 | OverloadUT|Work | Dude that bot stole my idea |
| 00:40.20 | OverloadUT|Work | Of using a pixel to transmit data :) |
| 00:40.33 | OverloadUT|Work | I'm just happy to see it works :P |
| 00:41.23 | art3mis | ahh yeah |
| 00:41.26 | art3mis | and so simple |
| 00:41.37 | Industrial | no wai that was my idea |
| 00:41.39 | art3mis | so here's a question |
| 00:41.43 | vid` | http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5fe68561-befe-4ea3-8099-981b012bd6c5.htm |
| 00:41.44 | Funkeh` | lolers |
| 00:41.45 | vid` | lol thats great |
| 00:41.46 | Funkeh` | "<52.2> Shadowfiend is afflicted by Mark of Kazzak. -[spell_friendDmg]-", -- [676] |
| 00:41.48 | Industrial | (to illustrate the point, i had thought of that also) |
| 00:41.59 | art3mis | questfu has a rather lasrge detach tooltip but ocne it hits max size, it offers scrolly |
| 00:42.08 | Funkeh` | no we don't have a player called shadowfiend |
| 00:42.18 | art3mis | how would i change it so the scrollie shows up in a tracker window much smaller? |
| 00:43.01 | art3mis | nevcairiel: so i compact it down to a fixed window siz and not have it randomly grow on its own |
| 00:43.04 | art3mis | err |
| 00:43.07 | art3mis | i.e |
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| 00:56.06 | bigzero | Is the only way to check if an item is soulbound is by parsing the tooltip? I can't seem to find anything else... |
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| 01:20.30 | Benumbed | anyone know what mod could be causing 2 sec lag when casting weapon buff? |
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| 01:34.50 | Amadeo | Does Detox's live list have some sort of click-casting functionality now? |
| 01:34.58 | Amadeo | I've never used it before |
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| 01:39.20 | Andune | amadeo: not that I'm aware of. Use grid or decursive. |
| 01:40.39 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30068 10BigWigs/Outland/Kazzak.lua: |
| 01:40.39 | CIA-18 | BigWigs: Outland/Kazzak: |
| 01:40.39 | CIA-18 | - mark warnings |
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| 01:42.36 | Amadeo | Andune: Grid does it? |
| 01:48.07 | Andune | Amadeo: Grid with something like Clique, yes. |
| 01:48.39 | Andune | If you're using Grid, you're probably using a click-casting mod with it. Grid easily shows things you need to debuff, and click-casting makes it easy to "decurse" |
| 01:49.07 | Andune | if you're not already using Grid and you don't want to, decursive is a great alternative. You just left or right click on a grid-like display to debuff. |
| 01:50.47 | knarf^ | is there any 'correct' way of versioning your Ace2 mod? :) |
| 01:51.46 | Amadeo | hm, I'll play with em, thanks for the info :) |
| 01:52.55 | WobWork | knarf^: generally x.y.zzz |
| 01:53.04 | WobWork | x for major releases |
| 01:53.09 | WobWork | y for minor |
| 01:53.24 | WobWork | and z for svn versions |
| 01:53.42 | WobWork | s/ver/revi/ |
| 01:53.53 | knarf^ | Meant more codingwise |
| 01:54.08 | WobWork | howso then? |
| 01:54.12 | knarf^ | so that SpyGnome and such can fetch the version |
| 01:54.44 | knarf^ | or VersionChecker for that matter |
| 01:54.48 | WobWork | still not following...? |
| 01:55.20 | CIA-18 | 03archarodim * r30069 10Decursive/ (Dcr_opt.lua Decursive.xml): |
| 01:55.20 | CIA-18 | Decursive: |
| 01:55.20 | CIA-18 | - The status tool-tip was not displayed if the live-list was hidden. |
| 01:55.20 | CIA-18 | - When Waterfall displays disabled 'range' options it calls the 'set' method anyway, this caused a problem when the live-list or the MUFs were disabled... |
| 01:55.24 | knarf^ | any specific variable names, and how they should be initialized |
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| 01:56.56 | WobWork | Addon.Version not enough? |
| 01:57.31 | knarf^ | well looked trough some of the addons and they got Revision and some strsub going on, is that due to the svn? |
| 02:02.18 | Funkeh` | nymbia |
| 02:02.32 | Funkeh` | whats the droprate filter for pt3 set at again? |
| 02:02.37 | Amadeo | I didn't know Decursive was on SVN now, was it rewritten? |
| 02:02.49 | snurre- | 414g spent on vials *cry* |
| 02:02.56 | Andune | amadeo: yes |
| 02:03.02 | Amadeo | interesting |
| 02:04.20 | knarf^ | snure supplying the entire server? |
| 02:06.09 | snurre- | lol |
| 02:06.12 | snurre- | for now, only myself :p |
| 02:06.15 | snurre- | had a week of herbing spree |
| 02:06.22 | snurre- | but i guess my guild is gonna want this stuff |
| 02:06.23 | NightHawkTheSane | knarf^: sadly, at 3g for a 5 stack, it's not all that many pots. :\ |
| 02:07.37 | snurre- | about 200 elixir of mastery, 200 major agi, 100 healing power, 200 major dreamless sleep, 40 flasks |
| 02:07.37 | snurre- | ish |
| 02:07.37 | snurre- | some major shadow power and 100ish adepts elixir too |
| 02:07.38 | Gagorian | so a few weeks of raiding for one person |
| 02:07.39 | Gagorian | yay. |
| 02:07.46 | snurre- | i HATE that pots only stack in 5 |
| 02:07.57 | snurre- | gbanking is a real pain in the ass |
| 02:08.22 | Gagorian | If it's red it's dead. |
| 02:08.25 | knarf^ | NightHawkTheSane hehe |
| 02:08.25 | Bruners | should be buffed to atleast 10 |
| 02:08.47 | snurre- | ffs, i can carry a fucking horse in one slot, why the hell can't i carry at least 20 flasks in one? |
| 02:09.01 | NightHawkTheSane | snurre-: they're very big flasks. |
| 02:09.12 | snurre- | i'll show you a big flask.. giggity |
| 02:10.00 | NightHawkTheSane | you also going to show me a fucking horse?\ |
| 02:10.31 | Gagorian | Do you want to see a 'fucking' horse? |
| 02:10.38 | NightHawkTheSane | no, not really. |
| 02:10.38 | snurre- | freaks |
| 02:11.05 | Gagorian | Well at least I don't have a 'fucking' horse in one slot ;) |
| 02:11.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Agreed. Mine's a fucking tiger. |
| 02:12.19 | snurre- | a fucking kodo/goat/raptor/bird then |
| 02:12.22 | snurre- | whatever floats your boat |
| 02:12.39 | NightHawkTheSane | honestly, fucking mounts doesnt float my boat, but thanks :) |
| 02:14.52 | CIA-18 | 03archarodim * r30070 10Decursive/ (Decursive.toc Todo.txt): |
| 02:14.52 | CIA-18 | Decursive: |
| 02:14.52 | CIA-18 | - Updated version in TOC |
| 02:14.52 | CIA-18 | - Added some missing fields in the TOC (X-Credits and X-AceForum) |
| 02:14.53 | CIA-18 | - Removed done things from Todo.txt |
| 02:14.57 | WobWork | knarf^: It's using svn keywords to get the revision number |
| 02:15.28 | CIA-18 | 03next96 * r30071 10AceCast/AceCast-koKR.lua: |
| 02:15.28 | CIA-18 | AceCast : |
| 02:15.28 | CIA-18 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:15.29 | knarf^ | I see |
| 02:15.45 | WobWork | So they end up with Major.Minor.Revision |
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| 02:23.19 | knarf^ | GetItemInfo does not return if an item is BoE or BoP? |
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| 02:26.12 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30072 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Don't add AceDebug as a default module mixin, since it's rarely, if ever, used. |
| 02:26.37 | Chompers | <Gagorian> Do you want to see a 'fucking' horse? |
| 02:26.40 | Chompers | perhaps... |
| 02:31.12 | Arrowmaster | so for nethersprite do people actually run out for the banish phase sucessfully? |
| 02:31.38 | vhaarr | yes |
| 02:31.41 | Feldia | I've seen it done successfully |
| 02:34.10 | WobWork | oh man =) |
| 02:34.11 | WobWork | http://www.eatpes.com/game_over.html |
| 02:35.04 | Arrowmaster | i keep dying every time i go to run out because ive got a ton of blue beam stacks on me |
| 02:36.34 | OverloadUT | A Quicktime embedded video? How 2003... |
| 02:37.33 | WobWork | RoofSex is -so- nsfw =P |
| 02:37.51 | Feldia | arrowmaster, I never realized guilds actually still employed that strat |
| 02:37.56 | Feldia | I was hoping it had been fixed |
| 02:38.11 | Feldia | and btw, running out is actually considerably harder than doing the encounter correctly |
| 02:38.29 | Arrowmaster | i know im hating it |
| 02:39.47 | Feldia | juts spread out and don't suck |
| 02:39.49 | Feldia | and phase2 is easy |
| 02:40.14 | Arrowmaster | learning the beams first |
| 02:40.43 | Arrowmaster | have a rogue taking the green one but people keep jumping in it for too long and he cant hold it |
| 02:41.10 | Feldia | isn't green the regen? (I can never remember) |
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| 02:41.23 | Arrowmaster | healing |
| 02:41.25 | vhaarr | It's the "healer beam", but we use a rogue as well. |
| 02:41.37 | Feldia | weird |
| 02:41.41 | Feldia | we just rotate our 3 healers between it |
| 02:41.53 | Feldia | with the paladin occasionally taking the red beam as well |
| 02:42.06 | Feldia | then me (shadow priest) and a warlock alternate between blue |
| 02:42.17 | Ver | I'm new to addon development, and am interested in using the Ace libraries in my development |
| 02:42.23 | Ver | where is a good place to start ? |
| 02:42.40 | vhaarr | Ver: http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 02:42.51 | WobWork | First you need to ask yourself, Do you need the libraries =) |
| 02:43.34 | WobWork | If you are only using one or two of the features of the AceLibrary (Or none at all) you may be better off either using a smaller framework (Like Dongle) or working on your own |
| 02:43.37 | vhaarr | WobWork: No, you don't have to ask yourself that at all. |
| 02:43.42 | Ver | I dont need the libraries but as far as i understand, dont the Ace libs simply coding addons by making functions out of commonly reused code ? |
| 02:43.51 | WobWork | vhaarr: Yeah, then we get addons like MEUUUGH =P |
| 02:43.52 | Ver | *simplify |
| 02:44.00 | WobWork | Indeed |
| 02:44.08 | WobWork | What will your addon do? |
| 02:44.15 | Ver | I just want a simple dialog |
| 02:44.24 | Ver | that will make a list of all users on a Custom Chat Channel |
| 02:44.31 | Ver | displaying there level and class |
| 02:44.41 | Ver | with a simple right click menu for invite whisper functions |
| 02:44.44 | WobWork | Ace comes in handy when you're working on more complex addons where the code reuse will come in handy |
| 02:45.16 | OverloadUT | I think using Ace for that to handle the chat parsing stuff will be useful. That is, if there is an AceLibrary that does that... |
| 02:45.26 | WobWork | I don't think there is? |
| 02:45.42 | WobWork | But Ver isn't really looking for chat parsing |
| 02:45.50 | OverloadUT | I don't think you CAN get the class and level of people in a channel without doing a who on each one of them |
| 02:45.52 | WobWork | just something that will take the results from /chatwho |
| 02:45.53 | vhaarr | WobWork: Ace is easier to understand than traditional addon programming if you come from a OO background, for example. |
| 02:45.59 | Ver | Chat parsing is something i have experience coding with, but not with Wow :P |
| 02:46.08 | vhaarr | WobWork: Let the man experience it himself before you start pounding statements. |
| 02:46.37 | Ver | well you can get the output of a /chatinfo and then do a /who on all the names with a loop i would assume |
| 02:46.55 | WobWork | Ver: yes, but remember that the output for /who is throttled |
| 02:46.57 | OverloadUT | Ver: Yeah, but you will need to throttle it because you can only do a who request every X seconds |
| 02:47.02 | Ver | hmm |
| 02:47.12 | WobWork | which may or may not be very helpful =\ |
| 02:47.16 | OverloadUT | I THINK there is an Ace Library to handle that? |
| 02:47.16 | vhaarr | AuldLangSyne probably has code for that. |
| 02:47.18 | WobWork | You might want to keep a cache of users? |
| 02:47.23 | vhaarr | OverloadUT: There's not. |
| 02:47.24 | Ver | well im sure there level will not change that fast |
| 02:47.32 | Ver | the delay might be feasible depending on what the x seconds is |
| 02:47.44 | WobWork | It's pretty prohibitive, afair |
| 02:47.51 | OverloadUT | Hm, well there is an addon on WoWI you might want to check out Ver, it's a library for handling lots of who requests - it'll do the throttling for you |
| 02:47.52 | Ver | hmm |
| 02:47.55 | WobWork | at least a few seonds |
| 02:47.58 | OverloadUT | I thought it was Ace but must not be |
| 02:48.10 | vhaarr | Ver: http://wowace.com/wiki/Category:Libraries is a list of the available libraries on the wowace.com SVN. |
| 02:48.34 | Ver | is there a dev enviroment for addons ? or is it all UltraEdit and *.lua/*.toc/*.xml |
| 02:48.41 | vhaarr | vim |
| 02:49.13 | WobWork | unfortunately not, Ver, just some good editors with syntax highilghting etc. |
| 02:49.17 | Cryect | pfft vim more like vi |
| 02:49.21 | Funkeh` | nymbia, ping |
| 02:49.24 | WobWork | Vim is a great one to use |
| 02:49.44 | WobWork | once you wrap your mind around the commands |
| 02:49.48 | Ver | well UltraEdit has syntax highlighting thats what i use |
| 02:50.05 | vhaarr | UltraEdit sucks. |
| 02:50.07 | Ver | I *do* dual boot Debian, but i dont want to boot into linux for mod dev :P |
| 02:50.13 | Cryect | Basically just whatever text editor you want |
| 02:50.36 | vhaarr | UltraEdit doesn't respect things like line ending style or indenting. |
| 02:50.43 | Ver | hmm |
| 02:50.46 | vhaarr | So don't use it if you edit other peoples addons. |
| 02:50.49 | WobWork | Ver: There's always gvim =) |
| 02:51.05 | Ver | k, were getting offtopic here |
| 02:51.08 | vhaarr | gvim/cream for win32 |
| 02:51.10 | WobWork | hehe |
| 02:51.17 | Ver | im sure i can find something to edit with |
| 02:51.18 | WobWork | That's the WORD OF THE DAY! |
| 02:51.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. What do you recommend then, Vhaar? I've been using UE32 because it's the only thing I've found that I can tolerate that properly handles file formats and UTF8 and so forth. |
| 02:51.39 | WobWork | Vim =) |
| 02:51.42 | Ver | yea UE32 has nice conversions |
| 02:52.04 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: vim handles that just fine. |
| 02:52.08 | Cryect | shrug i use EditPlus, UE32 bugged me for some reason |
| 02:52.26 | Cryect | prolly bugged me how bloated UE32 was getting |
| 02:52.46 | Funkeh` | i like notepad++ |
| 02:52.55 | Cryect | Really its hard to find a good text editor that doesn't support the various text file formats |
| 02:53.07 | Cryect | I mean unless you are trying to use normal notepad/wordpad |
| 02:53.33 | Bruners | notepad2 <3 |
| 02:53.35 | Ver | so anyway |
| 02:53.56 | Cryect | I assume you were looking for an IDE? |
| 02:54.04 | Ver | For the purpose of making a dialog that will grab users from a chat channel and display a list of said users with level/class |
| 02:54.25 | vhaarr | Ver: Tablet is perfect for things like that, you should consider just making it a fubar plugin. |
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| 02:55.01 | Funkeh` | i found notepad2 quite dodgy when it came to line endings |
| 02:55.41 | WobWork | With the added bonus that a fubar plugin is also a standalone automatically |
| 02:55.54 | vhaarr | Ver: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_PTReagentFu/PTReagentFu.lua is a small example of a fubar plugin. |
| 02:56.24 | Ver | FuBar plugins are standalone? |
| 02:56.33 | Ver | so..how is it a fubar plugin then? |
| 02:56.38 | vhaarr | It's both. |
| 02:56.46 | Ver | i see |
| 02:56.52 | Cryect | just means you support fubar if they have fubar installed |
| 02:56.55 | vhaarr | A FBP running without FuBar turns into a minimap icon automatically. |
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| 02:58.40 | Ver | hmm...what about AceGUI ? |
| 02:58.44 | vhaarr | Ignore it. |
| 02:58.51 | vhaarr | It was abandoned a long time ago. |
| 02:58.53 | WobWork | I'm not sure how well developed it is at the moment |
| 02:59.01 | Ver | well...does it work ? :P |
| 02:59.06 | vhaarr | No, it doesn't. |
| 02:59.08 | WobWork | Probably not |
| 02:59.09 | Ver | shitty |
| 02:59.18 | WobWork | Feel free to pick it up and get it working, though =) |
| 03:02.23 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30073 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Route debug calls to the core. |
| 03:02.46 | Ver | hmm |
| 03:03.54 | Ver | What is Crimson Editor? |
| 03:04.40 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30074 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: And include the module name in debug output. |
| 03:05.20 | Ver | it seems like a good editor |
| 03:05.55 | NightHawkTheSane | For being free, it's not bad. |
| 03:06.06 | Ver | I happened upon this |
| 03:06.11 | Ver | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/4375/wowlua-ce/ |
| 03:06.24 | vhaarr | "For being free", what the fuck are you smoking? |
| 03:07.09 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: eh? isnt Crimson Editor free? I thought it was, but I might be confusing it with something else. |
| 03:07.19 | Cryect | Looks like a standard text editor |
| 03:07.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Crimson Editor is good, except that it doesn't handle UTF8 worth a fuck. |
| 03:08.00 | ZealotOnAStick | I dunno how it does on things like respecting line ending options. |
| 03:08.02 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it has its quirks |
| 03:08.03 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: I have no idea what crimson editor is, but implying that anything that is free automatically sucks is just stupid. |
| 03:08.16 | WobWork | I've used CE |
| 03:08.17 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: I did -not- mean to imply that. Sorry if i did |
| 03:08.22 | WobWork | It's certainly not a bad editor |
| 03:08.24 | vhaarr | okay |
| 03:08.36 | WobWork | I can't recall why I switched from it though. |
| 03:08.38 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: I merely meant that It was good, but not excellent. Merely that, since it was free, you get what you pay for. :P |
| 03:08.42 | WobWork | I seem to recall a reason |
| 03:08.59 | WobWork | It could be I just found vim more useful |
| 03:09.08 | ZealotOnAStick | I only switched from it because of the UTF8 thing, which I only began to give a damn about because of the ace SVN |
| 03:09.12 | WobWork | I think it doesn't have quite as good regexp support |
| 03:09.52 | vhaarr | ActiveState recently released a free version of their Komodo IDE, I've been wanting to try that for a while, but I do not think it supports Lua. |
| 03:09.56 | vhaarr | Maybe it does, I'm not sur.e |
| 03:10.00 | ZealotOnAStick | I actually really like UE32, this news of the line ending thing irritates me. |
| 03:10.18 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: Well, I don't know, it happens whenever sylvanaar commits. |
| 03:10.24 | vhaarr | and apparently he uses UA32. |
| 03:10.25 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm a fan of bbedit/textwrangler, but those are mac specific |
| 03:10.36 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm curious precisely which version he uses. |
| 03:10.48 | PProvost | UltraEdit has options for that... |
| 03:11.02 | ZealotOnAStick | What's something I could toy with briefly to find out if mine does it or not? |
| 03:11.20 | vid` | hmm, shift + mwheelup/down no longer works in BT3 to change the hotbars |
| 03:11.21 | vid` | that intended? |
| 03:11.27 | vid` | or i break something |
| 03:11.44 | vid` | it used to change bar1 to another page |
| 03:12.30 | Ver | the lua.org references dont seem to apply to how you would code things for wow thou |
| 03:12.47 | vhaarr | And why would it do that? |
| 03:13.03 | PProvost | Ver... what are you trying to do? |
| 03:13.04 | Cryect | why would lua.org care about wow? |
| 03:13.09 | Ver | Create a dialog |
| 03:13.12 | Ver | first off :P |
| 03:13.21 | Cryect | look at wowwiki |
| 03:13.24 | PProvost | Yeah |
| 03:13.26 | vhaarr | Ver: Look at the link I gave you and create a tablet instead. |
| 03:13.27 | Ver | maybe a /slash command to open said document |
| 03:13.34 | PProvost | Get a simple editor... no IDE for starters... |
| 03:13.35 | Ver | *dialog |
| 03:13.38 | vhaarr | Ver: You'll have the addon up and running in 10 minutes. |
| 03:13.53 | Ver | i cant find this Tablet lib you speak of |
| 03:14.02 | PProvost | What you just described is: 1 TOC file, 1 XML file and 1 LUA file. |
| 03:14.04 | vhaarr | Just look at the link I provided, it has everything you need. |
| 03:14.14 | Ver | I've got a TOC, XML and LUA file |
| 03:14.40 | vhaarr | You don't need the XML file. |
| 03:14.45 | Ver | i dont? |
| 03:14.47 | Cryect | nope |
| 03:14.49 | Ver | good cuz im not very fond of XML |
| 03:15.07 | Cryect | Try debugging a bad XML file then see how even less fond you are of it |
| 03:15.09 | PProvost | You don't, but you will create and set up all the frames in code. |
| 03:15.17 | vhaarr | Not if he uses Tablet. |
| 03:15.31 | PProvost | Meh |
| 03:15.49 | PProvost | Personally, I do em in code, but I don't care. It can be a bit much for a new learner. |
| 03:15.57 | vhaarr | indeed it can |
| 03:15.59 | Ver | Well... |
| 03:16.12 | Ver | I've got a degree in visual basic programming, but i dont think that helps me much here |
| 03:16.28 | vhaarr | Ver: Do you use FuBar? |
| 03:16.31 | Ver | no |
| 03:16.39 | vhaarr | Do you use any Ace2 addons? |
| 03:16.42 | Ver | yes |
| 03:16.48 | vhaarr | Name the biggest one you have. |
| 03:16.51 | Ver | hmm |
| 03:16.57 | Ver | XPBarNone, WIM |
| 03:17.02 | Ver | not sure what else |
| 03:17.05 | vhaarr | WIM is not Ace, afaik. |
| 03:17.08 | Ver | damn |
| 03:17.19 | Ver | I've got the Ace 1.4.1 libs |
| 03:17.49 | Ver | OneBag |
| 03:18.26 | vhaarr | I think you should read the tutorial I gave you and then come back. |
| 03:19.28 | Ver | downloading Ace2 |
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| 03:31.40 | Cyrez | WIM != Ace/Ace2, there's Cellular for that. |
| 03:31.51 | Cyrez | But WIM does have FuBar/Titan support. |
| 03:32.18 | Bruners | and you need that because? |
| 03:32.37 | WobWork | There's always HeyFu =) |
| 03:32.37 | Cyrez | Huh? |
| 03:32.41 | Arrowmaster | i find that funny |
| 03:32.57 | Arrowmaster | that WIM has FuBar support but has lots of issues with AceComm |
| 03:33.22 | vhaarr | It just has one issue, really, and I've reported it to the author. |
| 03:33.25 | vhaarr | Like a month ago. |
| 03:37.22 | Ver | hmm |
| 03:37.39 | Ver | what is the current ## Interface : version ? |
| 03:37.42 | Ver | is it 20010 ? |
| 03:37.54 | vhaarr | 20003 |
| 03:37.55 | Arrowmaster | 20003 |
| 03:38.10 | Ver | its saying my 'mod' is incompatible :( |
| 03:38.42 | Arrowmaster | "## Interface: 20003" exactly? |
| 03:38.45 | Ver | ## Interface : 20003 |
| 03:38.54 | Arrowmaster | no space between Interface and : |
| 03:39.05 | Ver | well shit |
| 03:39.17 | Ver | that the same for all lines of that format ? |
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| 03:40.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 03:40.37 | Ver | kk |
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| 03:43.05 | CIA-18 | 03rabbit * r30076 10PaintChipsLib/PaintChips-2.0/PaintChips-2.0.lua: .PaintChips-2.0: Colors can be accessed directly on the library now, like AceLibrary("PaintChips-2.0")["white"]. |
| 03:46.44 | art3mis | so |
| 03:47.11 | art3mis | is there any way to make the max detached tooltip in questfu a smaller value to enable mouse scrolly? |
| 03:47.40 | art3mis | or a way to "set" the boundaries of the quest tracker so that it doesnt increase window size but allows for scrolly? |
| 03:47.57 | Arrowmaster | i think there might be in the code but no options for it |
| 03:48.07 | art3mis | what would i look for? |
| 03:48.15 | art3mis | something_max ? |
| 03:48.27 | Arrowmaster | not really sure |
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| 03:49.11 | mjc | autobar still doesn't work for me anymore :( |
| 03:49.13 | vhaarr | You can provide minWidth and maxWidth when registering the tablet. |
| 03:49.16 | art3mis | hrm is it related to tablet at all? |
| 03:49.23 | art3mis | ahh |
| 03:49.26 | art3mis | okay |
| 03:51.56 | art3mis | if numGot == nil then self:Print("The author of QuestsFu would very much like to know if you see this message. Email the rest of this line to him at kemayo at gmail dot com. heh |
| 03:52.01 | art3mis | thats kinna funny |
| 03:55.31 | Ver | Whats a good event for testing? im thinking UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START ? |
| 03:56.40 | Gagorian | Testing what? |
| 03:56.59 | vhaarr | Ver: If you have a channeled spell, that will work, yes. |
| 03:57.11 | Ver | I'm a warlock |
| 03:57.12 | vhaarr | Like Health Funnel. |
| 03:57.14 | vhaarr | right |
| 03:57.19 | Ver | just testing the function in general |
| 03:57.30 | Ver | something that occurs often so i can test stuff |
| 03:57.31 | Gagorian | why not use /script Addon:Function() |
| 03:57.40 | Ver | bah |
| 03:57.48 | Ver | see i dont know these things :P |
| 03:57.52 | Ver | how do you comment a *.lua file ? |
| 03:58.05 | art3mis | -- |
| 03:58.06 | OverloadUT | -- |
| 03:58.08 | OverloadUT | Damn |
| 03:58.11 | Gagorian | for single line yeah |
| 03:58.13 | Gagorian | and multiple is |
| 03:58.14 | Gagorian | --[[ |
| 03:58.16 | Gagorian | commented stuff |
| 03:58.19 | Gagorian | and more commented stuff |
| 03:58.21 | Gagorian | --]] |
| 03:58.34 | OverloadUT | Or just ]] but I find Gagorian's method easier to read ;) |
| 03:59.04 | Gagorian | yeah, it's easier to spot :) |
| 03:59.20 | Ver | so i can call |
| 03:59.23 | Ver | function KSGA:Test() |
| 03:59.31 | Ver | by /script KSGA:Test() ? |
| 03:59.34 | vhaarr | yes |
| 03:59.35 | Gagorian | yes |
| 03:59.36 | Ver | kewl |
| 03:59.40 | vhaarr | provided KSGA is a global object |
| 03:59.45 | CIA-18 | 03next96 * r30077 10Cartographer_Mailboxes/addon.lua: |
| 03:59.45 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_Mailboxes : |
| 03:59.45 | CIA-18 | - Add locale koKR |
| 04:06.11 | kenlyric | lol... skillsplusfu thinks my blood elf is alliance. |
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| 04:23.12 | Kerupt | is there a gatherer type of addon that works with cartographer? |
| 04:23.26 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:23.31 | Arrowmaster | its called cartographer |
| 04:23.40 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:23.42 | Funkeh` | dear me |
| 04:23.53 | Chompers | ha |
| 04:24.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Cartographer, along with whichever module(s) you want to track stuff for. Cartographer_Herbalism, Cartographer_Mining, etc. |
| 04:24.24 | Funkeh` | cartographer has 2 plugins called cartographer_mining and cartographer_herbalism, if you bothered to look on files.wowace.com and read the descriptions you would know that and save yourself the hastle fo asking us |
| 04:24.42 | Kerupt | i looked on there didnt see |
| 04:24.47 | Kerupt | no need to get your panties in a bunch |
| 04:25.14 | Kerupt | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Map_Addons |
| 04:25.15 | ZealotOnAStick | No, definitely underwear bunching priority. |
| 04:25.17 | Kerupt | didnt see one listed there |
| 04:25.22 | Funkeh` | read what i said |
| 04:25.24 | Funkeh` | again |
| 04:25.35 | boobies4u | read plz |
| 04:25.44 | WobWork | >< |
| 04:25.45 | WobWork | http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/new-arrivals/duck-fader/index.html#top |
| 04:25.47 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 04:25.55 | boobies4u | christ i was the worst toilet visit ever |
| 04:26.00 | boobies4u | Mein Kampfh |
| 04:26.02 | Kerupt | I understand what you fucking said |
| 04:26.07 | Funkeh` | grats |
| 04:26.07 | Kerupt | Im just saying thats were I looked |
| 04:26.16 | Funkeh` | wob lol nonono :D |
| 04:26.21 | ZealotOnAStick | seriously, chill already. |
| 04:26.22 | WobWork | You are the worst toilet visit ever? |
| 04:26.33 | boobies4u | ye |
| 04:26.45 | Tain | I need to see Grindhouse movie. |
| 04:26.51 | Funkeh` | O_o |
| 04:26.53 | boobies4u | i bet i burned as much calorys as somone in the olympics |
| 04:27.05 | WobWork | Special olympics? |
| 04:27.09 | Funkeh` | shitting? |
| 04:27.13 | boobies4u | paralympics is great |
| 04:27.15 | boobies4u | yes |
| 04:27.18 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:28.01 | boobies4u | blizzard have to change the fishing skilling system :( |
| 04:29.05 | boobies4u | been fishing for a week and im not even 200 |
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| 04:37.01 | art3mis | hrm |
| 04:37.07 | art3mis | wodner if its a limitation in the lib |
| 04:37.19 | Cryect | Eh? what wrongs with the fishing skill system |
| 04:37.26 | Cryect | its not even random |
| 04:37.40 | art3mis | using maxHeight, 200, in the tracker doesnt work but using it in the detail frame does |
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| 04:42.47 | JJSheets | Ominous, did you get FlexBar2 working? |
| 04:46.18 | art3mis | hrm jj you anygood with tablet? |
| 04:46.38 | JJSheets | somewhat... what's up? |
| 04:46.52 | JJSheets | ~seen Ominous |
| 04:48.22 | purl | ominous is currently on #wowace, last said: 'ag: depends look at http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5100.msg87902#new'. |
| 04:48.22 | art3mis | im mucking with quest_fu to make the detatched tracker a fixed height so that it scrolls sooner |
| 04:48.22 | art3mis | in the detailframe the maxheight works |
| 04:48.22 | art3mis | but the tracker frame it doesnt seem to until the quests cover about 2/3's of the screen |
| 04:48.22 | art3mis | placement in the register string doesnt effect maxwidth or maxheight does it? |
| 04:49.54 | OverloadUT | art3mis: Are you sure you're mucking with the right tablet? As in, you said "detached tracker" but are you talking about the detached tooltip or the special tracker? |
| 04:50.42 | JJSheets | I don't even see a maxHeight option in the docs at all... let me check the code... |
| 04:50.43 | OverloadUT | If it's the detached tooltip by guess would be that FuBar has its own code that is overriding your changes |
| 04:50.48 | art3mis | it works |
| 04:50.51 | art3mis | it's just not listed ;P |
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| 04:51.06 | art3mis | min max works the same as width just for height |
| 04:51.18 | art3mis | well there's only two registered tablets |
| 04:51.39 | art3mis | quest tracker frame and quest details frame |
| 04:51.48 | JJSheets | verify you spelled it maxHeight |
| 04:52.21 | art3mis | although now that you mentioned it the boxed on is the questfu tracker the unboxed is the blizzard one right? |
| 04:52.49 | art3mis | JJSheets: yup i tested it on the details frame and it worked so to avoid mistypes i cut and pasted |
| 04:52.55 | JJSheets | k |
| 04:54.39 | art3mis | aha over was right |
| 04:54.48 | art3mis | im mucking with the wrong one |
| 04:54.52 | JJSheets | lol |
| 04:55.06 | JJSheets | Answer me! |
| 04:55.07 | art3mis | but then where's the tooltip one |
| 04:55.18 | art3mis | that doesnt make sense |
| 04:55.55 | OverloadUT | art3mis: The tooltip one is created by FuBar |
| 04:56.04 | OverloadUT | So maybe it's not done the same way |
| 04:56.47 | art3mis | ahh |
| 04:56.49 | art3mis | okay |
| 04:56.59 | art3mis | so "use own tracker" means use the questfu tracker? |
| 04:57.10 | art3mis | as opposed to use some tracker that *I* want to use |
| 04:57.19 | JJSheets | correct |
| 04:57.21 | OverloadUT | As opposed to the default blizzard tracker that you can't move |
| 04:57.25 | art3mis | stupid retarded wording ;P |
| 05:02.48 | art3mis | aha found it thanks guys |
| 05:03.16 | art3mis | think someone could commit a "set detached frame height and width" setting in tablet? |
| 05:03.35 | ckknight | it's more complicated than that |
| 05:03.39 | art3mis | how so? |
| 05:03.45 | chuckg | So what's the process of taking over an addon? |
| 05:03.52 | chuckg | Besides contact the author? |
| 05:04.05 | art3mis | chuckg: start updating it if it doesnt work and hasnt been touched in 3 months ;P |
| 05:04.08 | chuckg | Is there a grace period you wait to see if they respond? |
| 05:04.25 | chuckg | Half the functionality works, the other half was never finished and it was buggy. |
| 05:04.28 | chuckg | I fixed it all up. |
| 05:04.28 | ckknight | chuckg: what AddOn? |
| 05:04.33 | chuckg | moveFrames. |
| 05:04.41 | ckknight | in that case, I'd say fuck it and lay my cliam |
| 05:04.41 | chuckg | It was never published on the wowace site. |
| 05:04.42 | ckknight | claim* |
| 05:04.47 | chuckg | I don't want to lay claim. |
| 05:04.50 | ckknight | better to ask forgiveness than permission |
| 05:04.51 | chuckg | I want him to have credit where credit is due. |
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| 05:05.03 | art3mis | thats what comments in the toc are for ;P |
| 05:05.05 | chuckg | I sent him a message on wowi (the only contact I have) a few days ago. |
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| 05:05.11 | art3mis | so ckk how is it more complicated? |
| 05:05.14 | chuckg | I just don't want to be "that dick". |
| 05:05.15 | chuckg | You know? |
| 05:05.30 | art3mis | no-one here would think you're a dick for taking over a project and improving it |
| 05:05.34 | chuckg | The only thing that still bugs me is you can't create a virtual frame through lua. |
| 05:05.44 | art3mis | specially a project thats been abandoned |
| 05:05.47 | chuckg | I'm assuming this hasn't changed? |
| 05:06.00 | art3mis | virtual frame? |
| 05:06.14 | chuckg | You know, an xml template. |
| 05:06.20 | art3mis | like mouse mark a section and poof it becomes a frame type thing? |
| 05:06.58 | chuckg | No like .. |
| 05:07.03 | chuckg | Define an xml frame with basic properties. |
| 05:07.10 | chuckg | Then when yo ucreate 5 others, you don't have to redefine them. |
| 05:07.17 | chuckg | You just say template = the virtual one. |
| 05:07.17 | art3mis | ahh |
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| 05:07.20 | art3mis | actually |
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| 05:07.26 | art3mis | where did i see that |
| 05:07.48 | art3mis | eepanels "kind of does that |
| 05:08.02 | art3mis | zomgpanel does as well i believe |
| 05:08.19 | chuckg | A lot of mods do it. |
| 05:08.27 | art3mis | but they're all real ones? |
| 05:08.28 | chuckg | Just about every frame blizzard makes has some frame templating. |
| 05:08.49 | chuckg | In fact, every character string is just an extension of the basic ones made by blizzard, at least the internal ones. |
| 05:09.18 | chuckg | That's an example of what i mean. |
| 05:09.30 | JJSheets | Ominous: ping |
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| 05:10.37 | art3mis | jj go mode tablet for me ;P |
| 05:10.39 | art3mis | mod |
| 05:10.45 | JJSheets | lol |
| 05:10.58 | JJSheets | no thanks I'm already working on something. :) |
| 05:12.15 | art3mis | detached_tooltip_width(var) detached_tooltip_height(var) ;P |
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| 05:14.27 | JJSheets | Ominous, if you see this message, I copied and pasted your last pastey to me into my in game lua editor and it runs fine for me... If you're still having problems, let me know. |
| 05:16.09 | art3mis | ingame lua editor? |
| 05:16.31 | JJSheets | Omnibus |
| 05:16.39 | JJSheets | I wrote that too... :) |
| 05:16.43 | art3mis | oh heh |
| 05:16.46 | art3mis | thats handy |
| 05:16.52 | JJSheets | yes it is. |
| 05:16.57 | art3mis | full ace support? |
| 05:17.01 | art3mis | if libs are there i mean |
| 05:17.21 | JJSheets | yeah |
| 05:17.22 | CIA-18 | 03gamefaq * r30078 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast-deDE.lua: Click2Cast: deDE Update |
| 05:17.31 | art3mis | dynmaic execution or reload exec? |
| 05:18.01 | JJSheets | it's not lod at the moment. |
| 05:18.56 | JJSheets | it's capable of even more than just lua editing tho |
| 05:22.50 | NightHawkTheSane | I really dislike ret allies. |
| 05:23.08 | JJSheets | pallies you mean? |
| 05:23.09 | NightHawkTheSane | s/allies/pallies/ |
| 05:23.39 | art3mis | hrm |
| 05:23.51 | art3mis | is there a way to mod a tablet lib call to use one addon? |
| 05:24.21 | JJSheets | does anybody know if Ominous got his FlexBar2 set up working or if he was still getting the bug I had to leave him with? |
| 05:24.29 | art3mis | or well it not overlap if it only uses its local one? |
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| 05:40.43 | JJSheets | hey ckknight, how'd the date go? |
| 05:43.53 | ZealotOnAStick | who put in the "No no, Guard, turn, parry, dodge, spin and -then- thrust" death message in Carto Waypoints? |
| 05:46.28 | CIA-18 | 03cryect * r30079 10GraphLib/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:46.28 | CIA-18 | GraphLib: initial commit |
| 05:46.28 | CIA-18 | - A library for the easy creation of graphs of real time or stored data |
| 05:47.01 | Funkeh` | nice cryect :) |
| 05:47.24 | FryGuy | i'm going to say wobin |
| 05:49.55 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin or vhaarr likely |
| 05:50.27 | art3mis | hahaha zealot thats awesome |
| 05:53.13 | art3mis | well dammit |
| 05:53.21 | art3mis | i can fix the detached issue |
| 05:53.32 | art3mis | but it doesnt seem to like behaving differently for other mods |
| 05:53.46 | FryGuy | well, i said based on the annotation |
| 05:53.58 | FryGuy | http://wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/CorpsePoint.lua?annotate=True&rev=29180 |
| 05:54.04 | art3mis | ho ha turn parry thrust spiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin |
| 05:54.21 | art3mis | *sploosh* |
| 05:54.37 | JJSheets | Ominous, if you see this I have duplicated your bug report and have a good idea where the bug is being caused... |
| 05:57.05 | art3mis | msg him ya dork ;P |
| 05:57.21 | art3mis | anyone kow wher the colours for quest_fu are stored? |
| 05:57.29 | art3mis | cuz those colours suck duck anus |
| 05:57.45 | JJSheets | bah... msg him my ass he hasn't responded in ten minutes... |
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| 05:58.02 | art3mis | yeah but irc clients log msgs ;P |
| 05:58.13 | art3mis | in mirc it actually makes a new winder |
| 05:59.39 | JJSheets | he probably left or something while leaving irc up... |
| 06:01.26 | Bruners | irssi ftw |
| 06:07.06 | ckknight | JJSheets: alright, turns out she doesn't eat, though |
| 06:07.20 | JJSheets | she doesn't eat meat you mean? |
| 06:07.27 | ckknight | no, just doesn't eat |
| 06:07.28 | vhaarr | FryGuy: The annotations lie, since wobin shuffled the table after I added entries. |
| 06:07.31 | JJSheets | and damn...talk about delayed response. :) |
| 06:07.40 | ckknight | I was eating dinner |
| 06:07.43 | CIA-18 | 03kodewulf * r30080 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2.lua: |
| 06:07.43 | CIA-18 | Babble-2.2: |
| 06:07.43 | CIA-18 | - Vendor: Updated locale deDE |
| 06:07.45 | ckknight | apparently she doesn't eat lunch |
| 06:07.46 | vhaarr | FryGuy, ZealotOnAStick: But yes, that one was added by wobin. |
| 06:07.50 | ckknight | which is odd |
| 06:08.05 | JJSheets | she does eat some times tho right? :) |
| 06:08.08 | ckknight | so I had a smoothie, she had water |
| 06:08.10 | JJSheets | sounds skinny :) |
| 06:08.13 | ckknight | oh, and chocolate |
| 06:08.23 | ckknight | yea, she's well proportioned |
| 06:08.28 | ckknight | not anorexic thin |
| 06:08.30 | ckknight | but not at all fat |
| 06:08.49 | JJSheets | Good on ya mate, as the Aussies are prone to say. |
| 06:09.13 | ckknight | also looks like we're doing it again on Wednesday |
| 06:09.17 | ckknight | so all in all, it went well |
| 06:09.23 | JJSheets | grats dude. :) |
| 06:10.08 | vhaarr | Cryect: The API seems really clunky, got any example code? |
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| 06:11.34 | vhaarr | ah, hm |
| 06:11.34 | Cryect | vhaarr check the test functions |
| 06:11.36 | vhaarr | I just saw it |
| 06:11.43 | Cryect | Yeah I need to write up the documentation |
| 06:11.52 | Cryect | its not quite obvious looking at it |
| 06:12.07 | Cryect | basic idea is you create a graph type which then has certain functions available to it |
| 06:12.20 | Cryect | then manipulate it directly |
| 06:13.46 | vhaarr | Cryect: Why are the methods like "SetXAxis", etc, part of the library? |
| 06:13.51 | Cryect | I do need to organize and document the functions inside the file though a little better they are somewhat scatter |
| 06:13.51 | vhaarr | Seems to me they should be local. |
| 06:14.17 | Cryect | Yeah they should be really I was just making them part of the library then setting pointers wasn't thinking at the time when I started doing that |
| 06:14.28 | Cryect | I will fix that tomorrow |
| 06:14.56 | CIA-18 | 03kodewulf * r30081 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua: |
| 06:14.56 | CIA-18 | Babble-2.2: |
| 06:14.56 | CIA-18 | - Trainer: Added locale zhCN |
| 06:15.01 | Cryect | since definately don't want anyone calling them via the library |
| 06:15.36 | Cryect | Just what happens when I start working on an idea at 2AM |
| 06:17.06 | Cryect | At the moment you will also notice aliasing artifacts in the realtime graphing till I get around to writing the faster mode which shouldn't have the same issues |
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| 06:17.30 | Pyrrhus | Hello everyone :) |
| 06:18.07 | OverloadUT | Howdy |
| 06:18.15 | Cryect | hello |
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| 06:22.14 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 06:22.56 | art3mis | hrm |
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| 06:23.08 | art3mis | it appears taht my quest_fu tracker has disappeared |
| 06:23.20 | art3mis | so has my wow one |
| 06:23.31 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30082 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua: |
| 06:23.31 | CIA-18 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane: |
| 06:23.32 | CIA-18 | - add deDE |
| 06:29.17 | CIA-18 | 03jjsheets * r30083 10FlexBar2/ (3 files): FlexBar2: - Fixed Group Dragging ignoring individual button locks again. FB2 now stores keyBinds per button and text subs update from these stored keybinds, rather from savedVar Keybind list. |
| 06:34.24 | JJSheets | night ya'll. |
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| 06:42.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Here's a fun question. Are all pearls considered "Gems" by the game, or just Jaggal pearls? |
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| 06:45.26 | NightHawkTheSane | hm> I guess all pearls are. |
| 06:45.33 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting |
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| 07:04.59 | art3mis | bah what controls the color in questfu |
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| 07:08.16 | DhragaWork | Lo all |
| 07:14.02 | DhragaWork | A question, the circular class specific addons like Necrosis and so on.... is the Henge addon working ok for all classes ? |
| 07:15.11 | DhragaWork | Cuse atm I'm looking for one to replace the http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/5723/totemus/ |
| 07:15.24 | DhragaWork | **Cuse=cause |
| 07:16.05 | CIA-18 | 03adirelle * r30084 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua: CastYeller: now spit out an error if SpellEvents-1.0 isn't loaded. |
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| 07:17.47 | Silviu- | Anyone with access to Babble ? ;) |
| 07:17.51 | Silviu- | [2007/03/13 09:17:18-26-x1]: Babble-Vendor-2.2\Babble-Vendor-2.2.lua:329: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 219) near '\' |
| 07:18.41 | Silviu- | ~seen kodewulf |
| 07:19.08 | purl | kodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-37-241.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 48d 2h 18m 24s ago, saying: 'you mean i should actually be nice to you instead... :)'. |
| 07:25.16 | art3mis | best |
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| 07:25.17 | art3mis | comment |
| 07:25.18 | art3mis | ever |
| 07:25.25 | art3mis | -- Fuck you, Blizzard. ~vhaarr |
| 07:27.37 | Loki|muh | hrhr |
| 07:27.56 | Fin | url? |
| 07:29.25 | Health | url! |
| 07:29.45 | Fin | hey Health! |
| 07:34.13 | Health | art3mis: url! |
| 07:34.56 | art3mis | its in the comments for questfu |
| 07:35.03 | art3mis | text = text:gsub(word, "|cffffffff%1|r") |
| 07:35.13 | art3mis | is that r at the end there the color? |
| 07:36.03 | Fin | no, the ffffff is |
| 07:36.45 | Fin | (no offence if it *was* an honest question) |
| 07:36.53 | Health | k |
| 07:37.04 | Fin | Health: how's tricks? |
| 07:37.32 | art3mis | so the cff is just generic? |
| 07:37.49 | art3mis | im trying to udnerstand how questfu does its colouring |
| 07:37.53 | Health | 32 bit |
| 07:37.54 | art3mis | understand |
| 07:38.07 | Health | tricks are fine! I'm eating an apple. |
| 07:38.09 | ckknight | |c means color |
| 07:38.11 | Fin | as far as I know, that means, "this is a hex code color coming up" |
| 07:38.13 | ckknight | then you have a 32-bit color |
| 07:38.14 | art3mis | and since its ALL red and yellow its pissing me off ;P |
| 07:38.24 | ckknight | the first 8 bits are always ff, which means full alpha |
| 07:38.35 | Fin | ah |
| 07:38.36 | art3mis | ahh okay thanks ckk |
| 07:38.41 | ckknight | thus, |cff |
| 07:38.53 | Health | |ckk! HEHE |
| 07:38.54 | Fin | I've always wondered about the first two ffs |
| 07:38.56 | ckknight | after that you have ff0000 = red, ffff00 = yellow |
| 07:38.58 | Fin | er, first two fs |
| 07:39.11 | ckknight | Health: ? |
| 07:39.28 | art3mis | rgb values right? |
| 07:39.39 | Fin | same as HTML |
| 07:39.42 | art3mis | k |
| 07:39.44 | art3mis | thanks |
| 07:40.22 | Fin | the |r means "reset colour" btw |
| 07:40.43 | Fin | back to whatever it was before the preceding |c |
| 07:42.00 | art3mis | ahh thanks |
| 07:42.13 | art3mis | hrm its still irritating |
| 07:42.25 | art3mis | it seems that VERY little of the colouring in it is done in the lua |
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| 07:42.37 | Fin | morning Adys :) |
| 07:42.47 | Fin | bon matin |
| 07:42.51 | `-FISKER_Q | anyone know if it's possible to disable the scansoftware running before login? |
| 07:43.01 | `-FISKER_Q | Because for some reason it hangs at that spot |
| 07:43.20 | Health | It has found cocaine on your hard disk |
| 07:43.33 | Adys | hm |
| 07:43.34 | `-FISKER_Q | I swear officer i had nothing to do with it |
| 07:43.43 | Adys | I dont think its possible to disable it |
| 07:44.05 | Adys | but if it hangs out at that spot it might actually be your connexion |
| 07:44.09 | Adys | i had that some time ago |
| 07:44.31 | Adys | it actually checks for an update or something, but if you are not connected it bugs up sometimes |
| 07:45.15 | `-FISKER_Q | I'm trying to use a tunnel for it |
| 07:45.46 | `-FISKER_Q | Doesn't appear to be failing though |
| 07:46.03 | `-FISKER_Q | remote host reports that it's forwarding the request to eu.scan.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 07:47.56 | Adys | hmm |
| 07:48.17 | Adys | try going offline and opening wow |
| 07:48.24 | `-FISKER_Q | nevermind |
| 07:48.30 | `-FISKER_Q | seems i bypassed it by renaming scan.dll |
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| 07:50.14 | `-FISKER_Q | hmm |
| 07:50.19 | `-FISKER_Q | something is definately wrong now |
| 07:50.24 | `-FISKER_Q | It can't even login |
| 07:50.37 | Bibi`ouF | probably because you disabled the scansoftware :p |
| 07:50.44 | Adys | I don't think renaming scan.dll will work on the longterm :p |
| 07:51.02 | `-FISKER_Q | nah it's still trying to connect to the logonserver |
| 07:51.08 | Adys | rename it back, does it work now? |
| 07:52.03 | `-FISKER_Q | nope |
| 07:52.07 | `-FISKER_Q | must be some setting in putty |
| 07:53.05 | Adys | try that, go offline and run wow, and go online once you're at the screen |
| 07:53.16 | Adys | it might work.. at least well |
| 07:53.22 | Adys | i guess its worth a try |
| 07:54.24 | `-FISKER_Q | i'll try that |
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| 08:01.32 | art3mis | meh im gonna go to bed |
| 08:01.43 | art3mis | retarded questfu and its ugly colors....bleh |
| 08:03.24 | `-FISKER_Q | I'm guessing this must be some security on the TBC client |
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| 08:04.25 | `-FISKER_Q | the non-tbc client works fine |
| 08:04.51 | `-FISKER_Q | no problems at all |
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| 08:09.03 | `-FISKER_Q | scratch that |
| 08:09.12 | `-FISKER_Q | when patched the normal client did that too |
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| 09:00.00 | nevcairiel | why cant translators test their commits.. |
| 09:00.47 | Silviu- | nevcairiel u mean the babble bug ? ;) |
| 09:00.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Because then they wouldn't break things. |
| 09:01.19 | ZealotOnAStick | What's broken now? |
| 09:01.32 | nevcairiel | babble-vendor |
| 09:01.34 | nevcairiel | fixing already |
| 09:02.13 | CIA-18 | 03nevcairiel * r30085 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2.lua: |
| 09:02.13 | CIA-18 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:02.14 | CIA-18 | - BV: fixed syntax typos - please test commits first :( |
| 09:04.18 | Gagorian | Any fire mage here? I'd have a quick question about combustion |
| 09:04.20 | sbu | *fishing* |
| 09:04.55 | sbu | windowed mode is nice - fishing stacks with working ;) |
| 09:05.09 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:05.14 | sbu | "oh, got one *alt-tab*" |
| 09:05.48 | Industrial | Its 13 3 7 today! |
| 09:05.49 | Gagorian | I usually fish while watching a movie. Dual monitors ftw. |
| 09:06.45 | nevcairiel | my new monitor should arrive today |
| 09:06.46 | nevcairiel | i hope. |
| 09:07.05 | ZealotOnAStick | watcha getting? |
| 09:07.09 | nevcairiel | i could use the old one for fishing purposes then :D |
| 09:07.09 | sbu | oh |
| 09:07.19 | nevcairiel | a 22" wide tft |
| 09:07.26 | sbu | well - no space for old monitor :/ |
| 09:07.32 | Gagorian | Yeah, I thought I could get rid of the old one but.. this use is soo great. |
| 09:07.43 | Gagorian | Also when I script I dual screen it |
| 09:07.46 | sbu | 20" tft here, is ok ;o |
| 09:08.02 | nevcairiel | i have a 19" non-wide right now |
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| 09:08.05 | nevcairiel | but for coding |
| 09:08.09 | nevcairiel | wide kicks ass |
| 09:08.09 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:08.20 | Gagorian | Helped a lot having wowhead/thottbot open on the other one and the text editor on the other |
| 09:08.24 | Gagorian | Just copy values over |
| 09:08.25 | sbu | well, 2nd tft for coding would be nice |
| 09:08.37 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got 2 19" CRTs. Nice professional series monitors, but they're massive and put out a lot of heat. |
| 09:08.50 | nevcairiel | game on one, lua editor on the other screen .. must rock |
| 09:09.01 | sbu | heh - 2 tft would fit here i guess - but crt: no way |
| 09:09.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Would like to replace them with 20 or maybe 22 inch widescreen LCDs eventually. |
| 09:09.08 | sbu | sharing desk w/ gf ;) |
| 09:09.12 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 09:09.20 | sbu | and she got still crt.. well :p |
| 09:09.53 | Gagorian | How much does windowed mode reduce fps? |
| 09:10.01 | nevcairiel | i run windowed mode maximized |
| 09:10.04 | nevcairiel | no fps loss |
| 09:10.10 | sbu | well - actually it doesnt, but its still somehow laggy |
| 09:10.20 | Gagorian | can you move your cursor to the extended monitor space? |
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| 09:10.28 | sbu | but that could also be an vista issue |
| 09:10.40 | nevcairiel | window mode lagging is an vista issue ,) |
| 09:10.43 | sbu | ah :) |
| 09:10.51 | sbu | lagging w/ 70fps :/ |
| 09:10.53 | Gagorian | Just wondering if you can actually edit the lua while being in game. In fullscreen it just doesn't allow moving over to the 2nd screen |
| 09:11.08 | nevcairiel | i have no idea |
| 09:11.15 | nevcairiel | still waiting for my second screen :P |
| 09:11.45 | Gagorian | I could try.. but I've been too lazy to activate windowed mode :p |
| 09:11.51 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 09:11.58 | sbu | heh, its just esc -> video -> click -> click? :p |
| 09:12.04 | ZealotOnAStick | windowed maximized works well. |
| 09:12.16 | `-FISKER_Q | bartender doesn't do cooldowns anymore? |
| 09:12.27 | Gagorian | Hasn't done in... over a month? :> |
| 09:12.34 | ZealotOnAStick | A couple, I think. |
| 09:12.38 | `-FISKER_Q | :P |
| 09:12.42 | Gagorian | Yeah I would've said two months initially |
| 09:12.43 | `-FISKER_Q | well what addon does then :o |
| 09:12.45 | ZealotOnAStick | OmniCC ftw. |
| 09:12.51 | Gagorian | yeah OmniCC works well |
| 09:13.16 | `-FISKER_Q | thought i had that actually :/ |
| 09:13.36 | Gagorian | Now... Some fire mage tell me if combustion has 3 charges in the buff or not? |
| 09:13.56 | Gagorian | As in does /print UnitBuff( "player", 1 ) give applications '3' at start |
| 09:14.38 | ZealotOnAStick | nevcairiel: I finally use BT3 on one of my characters now. Very good, only 2 things I really "feel" like it lacks. |
| 09:15.13 | nevcairiel | whats that? |
| 09:15.52 | ZealotOnAStick | "sticky" bars, and seperate positioning/handling for the keyring, or some other better way to handle it I don't have a good idea for atm. |
| 09:16.18 | nevcairiel | hide the keyring :D |
| 09:16.23 | ZealotOnAStick | A couple of things in it, like right-click self-cast, I prefer over current Bongos. |
| 09:16.52 | Gagorian | Do you need to look at the keyring often? :) |
| 09:16.59 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't want it hidden, though, I do access it from time to time, I just don't like it sticking "up" from the vertical bag arrangement. |
| 09:17.01 | `-FISKER_Q | Anyone know a castingbar addon too? |
| 09:17.02 | [Ammo] | keyring is embedded in onebag for me |
| 09:17.13 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: I use FadeOut on the bagbar |
| 09:17.16 | `-FISKER_Q | is oCB released in a new version by haste? |
| 09:17.25 | Gagorian | just have it in a corner.. when I hover over it, it all displays |
| 09:18.09 | ZealotOnAStick | I'll give that a try, but it was something I didn't think I'd like. I could be wrong. |
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| 09:19.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Just nothing quite has -everything- I want in one bar mod. Then again, I'm a picky bastage. |
| 09:20.33 | nevcairiel | i was thinking about sticky bars all the time |
| 09:20.39 | nevcairiel | but didnt have time to work on it yet |
| 09:21.20 | Gagorian | What exactly is sticky bars? |
| 09:21.27 | sbu | ZealotOnAStick: what do you need? :P |
| 09:21.30 | ZealotOnAStick | bars "snap |
| 09:21.35 | ZealotOnAStick | argh |
| 09:21.56 | ZealotOnAStick | bars "snap" to each other and sort of lock on, moving as one unit, and auto-align. |
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| 09:22.14 | Gagorian | Seems like something that's not needed very often |
| 09:22.27 | Gagorian | Just a bit of a bonus when setting it up? |
| 09:22.31 | ZealotOnAStick | sbu: both Bongos and BT3 are close . . . but each lacks a couple of nice things the other has. |
| 09:23.24 | ZealotOnAStick | It speeds up setup dramatically for me. It bugs me if things are just the littlest bit off . . . and continues to do so until I fix it. |
| 09:24.16 | Gagorian | I've got nearly everything hidden so I don't care |
| 09:24.37 | Gagorian | I have one spell for range, a few trinkets and curses visible. That's it. |
| 09:25.08 | ZealotOnAStick | I've been giving that some thought - just using SpellBinder and binding damn near everything I use frequently. |
| 09:25.32 | ZealotOnAStick | But mainly I'm hoping to see Splut come to fruition and function as my Sprocket replacement, then I can rid myself of a lot of things. |
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| 09:33.35 | jjb_ | good morning |
| 09:33.38 | doktoreas | good morning |
| 09:34.55 | doktoreas | is there an addon for targeting mob with raid icon? |
| 09:36.14 | Gagorian | It's not really possible (at least wasn't) |
| 09:36.27 | tewecske | why do u need that? |
| 09:36.38 | ZealotOnAStick | I've been thinking about that lately. |
| 09:36.46 | Gagorian | I personally think MT boxes with raid icon display works nicely enough |
| 09:37.00 | ZealotOnAStick | I wonder if it wouldn't be, if you created some tiny virtual frames for each of the 8 raid icons. |
| 09:37.19 | Gagorian | I believe there was one addon that did it in a very performance inefficient way |
| 09:37.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Should be doable for pre-combat assigning of the icons, at any raid. Might not work for changes during combat. |
| 09:37.47 | jjb_ | like arenamaster creating unitframes for the targets |
| 09:37.51 | Gagorian | It just looped through every player's target in the raid, if someone had it targeted it was possible. |
| 09:38.02 | Gagorian | But auto-targeting is out of the question now |
| 09:38.04 | doktoreas | thx for your answer :D |
| 09:38.28 | doktoreas | i have got some problem for shackle undead in karazhan |
| 09:38.29 | Gagorian | So, generally... the best option is just to work it through MT frames with raid icons |
| 09:38.37 | Gagorian | doktoreas: Use your focus frame |
| 09:38.37 | doktoreas | but i found this macro: |
| 09:38.40 | ZealotOnAStick | s/raid/rate/ |
| 09:38.53 | doktoreas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:39.06 | trh | hello |
| 09:39.23 | jjb_ | yes, but you have to save the target before |
| 09:39.30 | doktoreas | Gagorian, what mean by "focus frame" ? |
| 09:39.52 | Gagorian | Before pulling target your mob and type /focus |
| 09:39.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Make another macro, or use a key-modifier in that macro, to do /focus - if you have something targetted, it'll make it your focus unit. |
| 09:40.01 | Gagorian | you get an unitframe for that mob |
| 09:40.21 | Gagorian | then use /cast [target=focus] shackle undead |
| 09:40.28 | Gagorian | and you don't even need to target it |
| 09:40.39 | Gagorian | You can also see in the focus frame the instant the debuff runs out |
| 09:41.17 | doktoreas | Gagorian, the frame can be showned in Ora2? |
| 09:41.28 | [Ammo] | it's a default blizard frame |
| 09:41.33 | [Ammo] | has nothing to do with ora |
| 09:41.39 | doktoreas | ok |
| 09:41.48 | Gagorian | ag_uf pops up a nice focusframe for you |
| 09:41.51 | Gagorian | for example |
| 09:41.59 | doktoreas | too heavy for me :( |
| 09:42.05 | doktoreas | i use grid |
| 09:42.22 | jjb_ | its an own small frame |
| 09:42.32 | jjb_ | has nothing to do with the raid unitframes |
| 09:43.05 | doktoreas | thank you very much for your suggestion...now i need to found a timer for shackle |
| 09:43.05 | ZealotOnAStick | It's basically like another target frame. |
| 09:43.19 | doktoreas | yesterday i did my first run in karazhan :D |
| 09:44.14 | vhaarr | You don't need a timer for it. |
| 09:44.19 | vhaarr | Re-cast it whenever you can. |
| 09:44.21 | CIA-18 | 03elkano * r30086 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:44.21 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 09:44.21 | CIA-18 | - checked and sorted Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Hide |
| 09:44.21 | CIA-18 | - updated and sorted Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Leather |
| 09:44.21 | CIA-18 | - updated and sorted Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Scale |
| 09:44.29 | vhaarr | It breaks outside the timer, *frequently*. |
| 09:44.52 | Gagorian | I use this macro for managing my pets: http://ace.pastey.net/8227 |
| 09:44.59 | Gagorian | I have another macro with a simple /clearfocus |
| 09:45.13 | Gagorian | together they work very nicely |
| 09:45.17 | jjb_ | doktoreas: you can try chronometer |
| 09:45.32 | Gagorian | It's basically the same for shackle undead. Just remove the spells you dont need |
| 09:45.46 | vhaarr | Chronometer tracks Shackle, yes, but you should just ignore the timer when dealing with raid content. |
| 09:46.11 | jjb_ | i use an own sheepwatch for my mage |
| 09:46.43 | Gagorian | Any firemage here now available for a quick check? |
| 09:50.13 | sbu | hmm [Ammo] - infernal despawn timer for prince would be nice :) (1 bar for each infernal? just a simple 3 min cooldown every spawn ;o) |
| 09:50.40 | vhaarr | sbu: No, it would suck. |
| 09:50.46 | sbu | uhm |
| 09:50.47 | ZealotOnAStick | would add up to several bars pretty quickly |
| 09:50.48 | sbu | vhaarr: why: |
| 09:50.50 | sbu | ? |
| 09:51.13 | vhaarr | Because it would spam, and I'm perfectly capable of remembering which infernal lands where the entire fight anyway. |
| 09:51.21 | Pyrrhus | Gagorian: << Fire mage :) |
| 09:51.28 | vhaarr | So I know which one will despawn first and second. |
| 09:51.45 | vhaarr | Which is what really matters, not *when* they despawn. |
| 09:51.59 | nevcairiel | the bar doesnt tell you which infernal is which either |
| 09:52.00 | nevcairiel | so what |
| 09:52.02 | Gagorian | Pyrrhus: Ok, available for a few minutes for in-game testing with combustion? |
| 09:52.04 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 09:52.23 | sbu | well. no problem to remember the positions/order |
| 09:52.29 | Pyrrhus | what server? |
| 09:52.34 | Gagorian | any |
| 09:52.39 | vhaarr | sbu: And that's the important thing to remember anyway. |
| 09:52.43 | Gagorian | I just need you to run a few commands :) |
| 09:52.46 | vhaarr | If you start relying on timers, you're wiping anyway. |
| 09:52.52 | Pyrrhus | sorta.. im at work.. so I get like 1frame/5 seconds... standing still lol |
| 09:52.54 | semi-_ | why does it even matter which despawns when? admittedly I've only done the fight a few times, but I remember just CCing them both the entire time. |
| 09:52.59 | vhaarr | sbu: It's not going to happen. |
| 09:53.11 | sbu | ok :o |
| 09:53.18 | vhaarr | you're free to modify your local copy, obviously |
| 09:53.22 | vhaarr | it's a one-line change |
| 09:53.23 | Gagorian | Pyrrhus: Well I'd need to see what /print UnitBuff( "player", 1 ) returns for different amount of 'stacks' of combustion |
| 09:53.35 | Gagorian | (make sure only buff is combustion so it's in slot one) |
| 09:53.49 | Pyrrhus | ok 1 sec |
| 09:54.21 | Punkie` | sbu: do you ever get caught on an infernal? :P |
| 09:54.24 | Pyrrhus | Ill pop combustion and do blastwaves... dont remember if BW works on stacking combustions though ... lol |
| 09:54.51 | sbu | Punkie`: uhm? :o |
| 09:55.29 | Punkie` | why do you need a timer if you don't ? :P |
| 09:56.02 | Pyrrhus | Gagorian: for 1 stack response is.. |
| 09:56.33 | Gagorian | you dont need to type out the texture |
| 09:57.18 | Pyrrhus | "Combustion","","Interface... |
| 09:57.25 | Pyrrhus | least thats what it looks like.. |
| 09:58.17 | Pyrrhus | Spell_Fire_SealOfFire", 1 |
| 09:58.41 | Gagorian | for 1 stack is that after activation or after one fire spell? |
| 09:58.48 | Pyrrhus | after activation.. |
| 09:58.54 | Gagorian | ok stack it up once |
| 09:59.00 | Gagorian | the number should change then |
| 09:59.04 | Pyrrhus | tried blastwave didnt bring stack up lol |
| 09:59.22 | Pyrrhus | and remotely connected to home comp so I get like 1frame/10 seconds lol |
| 09:59.28 | Pyrrhus | any idea to stack it up? |
| 09:59.32 | Pyrrhus | without moving |
| 09:59.34 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 09:59.45 | Gagorian | umm :D |
| 10:00.16 | Gagorian | it needs to hit something |
| 10:00.21 | Gagorian | so you need a mob I guess :P |
| 10:01.28 | Gagorian | After activation the bonus is +0% crit? |
| 10:01.42 | Pyrrhus | +10% |
| 10:01.58 | Gagorian | You sure, it's not +10% after one stack? |
| 10:02.08 | Pyrrhus | As soon as I activate its 1 stack |
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| 10:02.54 | Gagorian | alright.. and it stacks higher and higher until 3 crits? |
| 10:03.06 | Gagorian | so technically until +100%? |
| 10:03.51 | Gagorian | And one more question: Does the fire school crit % increase in character screen? |
| 10:03.55 | vhaarr | How can someone ask me "shadow lyibrinth?" |
| 10:04.05 | vhaarr | Some people really need to buy a dictionary or something. |
| 10:04.52 | Elkano | wai shut whi? |
| 10:05.14 | Loki|muh | i think they do not really care what they write :( |
| 10:05.45 | vhaarr | cuz is liek, wts stupeed peepz |
| 10:05.49 | nevcairiel | some guy in my guild yesterday said alerion stronghold .. that was scary too :p |
| 10:06.10 | vhaarr | :o |
| 10:07.44 | vhaarr | I can understand that people misspell Auchindoun. |
| 10:08.10 | vhaarr | I think Blizzard used that name just because it's so funny to see people get it wrong all the time. |
| 10:08.17 | Loki|muh | or allakhazam ;) |
| 10:09.14 | nevcairiel | you should hear people trying it to pronounce on voice |
| 10:09.20 | vhaarr | haha |
| 10:09.23 | Azurewrath | mhm... is there anything like [zone=Outland] for macros? I hate to have both mounts in my actionbars... |
| 10:09.30 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: flying |
| 10:09.32 | nevcairiel | Azurewrath: 2.1 |
| 10:09.43 | vhaarr | and ye, 2.1 |
| 10:09.45 | Gagorian | ermm [flyable] I think in 2.1 |
| 10:09.52 | Azurewrath | mhm.. k |
| 10:10.04 | vhaarr | ah, flyable |
| 10:10.32 | Gagorian | sick upgrade. clears one more slot! |
| 10:10.37 | vhaarr | god I'm on autopilot, I had just dumped my herb stacks in the mail to my alt and was going to HS, but instead I just continued farming herbs |
| 10:11.08 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
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| 10:12.31 | Azurewrath | i prefer to listen to radio plays or something while farming.. it's so brainless.. |
| 10:12.47 | Azurewrath | i guess a monkey could farm in wow.. mhm.. how much is a chimp? :p |
| 10:13.00 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:13.09 | Loki|muh | the expensive part is the trainer for the monkey ;) |
| 10:13.10 | vhaarr | I guess getting a human would be cheaper, actually. |
| 10:13.49 | Azurewrath | mhm.. you mean a chinese would accept bananas only for payment? :) |
| 10:14.15 | evl | I cba to farm |
| 10:14.19 | evl | speculating AH is better money |
| 10:15.21 | Gagorian | Pyrrhus: Still here? |
| 10:24.05 | Nickenyfiken | Can elkbuffbars split up buffs and debuffs in different locations? |
| 10:25.57 | trh | Azurewrath: you can make a makro with [modifier:shift] for the old mount |
| 10:26.40 | Azurewrath | mhm.. sounds good.. |
| 10:26.59 | trh | Azurewrath: or cast flying mount, cast riding mount one after the other |
| 10:27.11 | trh | Azurewrath: in the outlands the flying mount will be mounted + error message |
| 10:27.23 | trh | Azurewrath: in the old lands you get a error message and the riding mount will be mounted |
| 10:27.25 | evl | yeah |
| 10:27.44 | Pyrrhus | Gagorian: Yea |
| 10:27.45 | mitch0 | there will be a new conditional for flying thing in 2.1, right? |
| 10:28.10 | trh | but i'd prefer they'd just allow riding on the flying mounts in the old lands, just forbid the flying part |
| 10:28.17 | CIA-18 | 03elkano * r30087 10ClosetGnome/locales/deDE.lua: ClosetGnome - small change to deDE |
| 10:28.17 | trh | one bagslot more :/ |
| 10:28.41 | Gagorian | Pyrrhus: [12:05:39] <Gagorian> And one more question: Does the fire school crit % increase in character screen? |
| 10:29.05 | Loki|muh | Elkano: *hug* :) |
| 10:29.08 | Pyrrhus | meaning? |
| 10:29.16 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 10:29.51 | Pyrrhus | Ohh no.. |
| 10:29.53 | Pyrrhus | it doesnt |
| 10:30.03 | Pyrrhus | im still at my 30.05 |
| 10:30.10 | Gagorian | when hovering over the crit display? |
| 10:30.15 | Gagorian | GG blizzard :l |
| 10:30.16 | Pyrrhus | nope |
| 10:30.18 | Pyrrhus | same lol |
| 10:30.22 | Pyrrhus | why whats up/ |
| 10:30.26 | Elkano | loki, you owe me a beer in 3.5 weeks ;) |
| 10:30.40 | Gagorian | well, would've been easy if it just been displayed there.. I'll just add it per 10% of crit per applications |
| 10:30.41 | Pyrrhus | trying to make a mod to do spells based on combustion stacks? |
| 10:31.14 | Loki|muh | uh, I think I should make plans how to get to CH |
| 10:31.16 | Gagorian | Not really, I just develop DrDamage (like TheoryCraft) |
| 10:31.21 | Gagorian | So I'll add that into dynamic calculation |
| 10:31.58 | Elkano | loki, me too... got to contact my driver ^^ |
| 10:33.23 | Azurewrath | the critchance is bugged somehow anyway... |
| 10:34.28 | Azurewrath | i have ~28% crit atm but had 8 Combustion stacks at some times.. |
| 10:34.37 | CIA-18 | 03trh * r30088 10VanasKoS/ (12 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: added synchronizing handling for alternative characters on the same realm |
| 10:34.46 | Gagorian | Well, that's theoretically possible |
| 10:34.55 | mitch0 | does anyone know what are the conditions to get a "kill" if some NPCs help you out? what percent of damage need to be done by the player? or is it just the killing blow? |
| 10:35.17 | Pyrrhus | Azurewrath: I had a fire spell not crit at 10x Combustion..... figure that crap out |
| 10:35.27 | [dRaCo] | resilence |
| 10:35.27 | ZealotOnAStick | initial tap and more than 50% damage done. |
| 10:35.27 | mitch0 | yesterday I managed to pull that Durn the something in nagrand to the guards, but I didn't get the quest completed :( |
| 10:35.37 | mitch0 | ah |
| 10:35.42 | mitch0 | ZealotOnAStick: thanks |
| 10:36.10 | Pyrrhus | [dRaCo]: 10x is 100% chance to crit... ON TOP of my already 30% |
| 10:36.13 | mitch0 | I wonder how hard those lvl70 elite guards hit |
| 10:36.22 | Pyrrhus | gl getting 30% resiliance |
| 10:36.30 | Pyrrhus | err 31% |
| 10:36.31 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 10:36.33 | mitch0 | too bad a patrol joins the fight in the middle |
| 10:36.42 | trh | mitch0: on me for about 1k |
| 10:37.04 | mitch0 | eh, I won't be able to outdps them then... |
| 10:37.12 | [dRaCo] | resilience doesn't lower your critchance |
| 10:37.26 | [dRaCo] | It just converts crits to non-crits |
| 10:37.26 | mitch0 | there are at least 2 of them, if I somehow manage to pull the bad guy to a spot where the patrol doesn't agro |
| 10:37.28 | Pyrrhus | .... never read up on resiliance.. whats it do? |
| 10:37.47 | Pyrrhus | But how would that affect a 130% chance to crit.. thats just BS... |
| 10:38.03 | trh | mitch0: i think it might be easier to get a 5man pug and just kill him ;) |
| 10:38.18 | mitch0 | trh: yeah, but where's the fun in that? :) |
| 10:38.34 | ZealotOnAStick | regardless of what it says, it'll never be more than 98%. There's -always- a tiny chance for a miss, resist, or non-crit hit. |
| 10:38.48 | mitch0 | took me some practice to pull him there :) |
| 10:38.55 | ZealotOnAStick | it may be a 1 in 50 thousand practical shot, but it's always there. |
| 10:40.03 | Stephmw | aye, just like there isn't a 100% to hit... it's always 99% |
| 10:44.10 | CIA-18 | 03gagorian * r30089 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua Data/Mage.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 10:44.10 | CIA-18 | DrDamage: |
| 10:44.10 | CIA-18 | -Added Shatter and Combustion |
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| 11:05.47 | haste | `-FISKER_Q: not yet |
| 11:08.35 | doktoreas | anyone has got problem seeing maintank in ora2 when raidleader uses ct_raid? |
| 11:09.48 | [Ammo] | no |
| 11:10.53 | doktoreas | i uses latest ora2 and maintank are not showned... |
| 11:11.00 | Punkie` | :D |
| 11:11.02 | doktoreas | had to set player target to see them |
| 11:14.39 | semi-_ | ever since WoW2.0 nobody has really bothered setting maintank in our raids |
| 11:15.12 | semi-_ | just go to the raid tab of whatever that window is called with friends/guild/raid and drag the main tanks name out |
| 11:15.40 | semi-_ | right click on that -> show target (or show buffs/debuffs if you're the type that needs it). no mods needed |
| 11:16.03 | semi-_ | granted i wish our raid lead would still set one for all the other useful benefits of ora2/ctra like announcements, but its not as bad as before. |
| 11:16.37 | Punkie` | maintanks shmaintanks |
| 11:16.42 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:20.15 | semi-_ | focus is nice, but sometimes you want it somewhere else |
| 11:20.51 | semi-_ | like on your CC target to know when its up (which reminds me, someone should make a mod more specifically for that, EnemyCastBars helps a lot as is though) |
| 11:20.55 | doktoreas | like on shakle |
| 11:20.57 | `-FISKER_Q | anyone know some stuff about reverse dns and linux? |
| 11:21.16 | trh | `-FISKER_Q: other than that it sucks to configure, nope |
| 11:21.33 | vhaarr | Shackling is easy as pie as healer, just use a click-casting mod and you don't even need to focus it. |
| 11:21.49 | semi-_ | or our raid leader who is our maintank uses his focus for what the offtank has, especially on fights like romeo and juliette where you can wipe just by not calling stop dps exactly when its needed. |
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| 11:23.05 | Stephmw | hmmm |
| 11:23.21 | Stephmw | has the aceevent interface changed a lot recently? |
| 11:23.31 | vhaarr | Not in a long time. |
| 11:23.32 | Stephmw | archud seems to barf on it |
| 11:24.03 | vhaarr | I didn't know ArcHUD had been updated. |
| 11:24.44 | Stephmw | looks like it - probably an incompatible change, lemme see what it's complaining about |
| 11:25.23 | Stephmw | hmm |
| 11:25.25 | semi-_ | `-FISKER_Q: i do |
| 11:27.12 | Stephmw | http://ace.pastebin.ca/393210 is what I'm seeing |
| 11:27.32 | Stephmw | although... there are plenty of other errors that track back to archud2 Core.lua |
| 11:27.38 | Stephmw | not all of them from aceevent |
| 11:28.01 | Hjalte | I tried out ArcHUD the other day. No errors. |
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| 11:28.11 | Hjalte | I prefer Icehud though. |
| 11:28.14 | vhaarr | That's not a AceEvent error. |
| 11:28.21 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30090 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: |
| 11:28.21 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 11:28.21 | CIA-18 | - Protect against infinite loops in multiset references. |
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| 11:28.59 | Stephmw | vhaarr: agreed, it's something in archud2 |
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| 11:45.02 | vhaarr | man, Hank Williams III has some weird songs |
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| 11:47.13 | Iagooo | Hey folks |
| 11:47.33 | Aeliel | o_O there's a cartographer_mailboxes? |
| 11:48.10 | Punkie` | 99% of the time they are outside Inns, you know where the Inns are right? :> |
| 11:48.31 | Iagooo | Anyone seen the movie Theanswer,currently on Warcraftmovies.com's spotligt? |
| 11:48.34 | Iagooo | spotlight |
| 11:48.42 | Iagooo | mage pvp |
| 11:48.59 | Iagooo | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=37012 |
| 11:49.17 | Punkie` | is that you ? :P |
| 11:49.21 | Iagooo | naah |
| 11:49.28 | Iagooo | just wondering what unit frames he is using |
| 11:49.55 | Punkie` | no live stream? :( |
| 11:50.00 | Iagooo | Nope :( |
| 11:50.21 | Punkie` | can't help then :< |
| 11:50.25 | Iagooo | :( |
| 11:50.31 | FtH|Daemona | damn why did i find out about spamsentry just yesterday :( |
| 11:50.57 | Iagooo | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=27953 |
| 11:51.00 | Iagooo | Same as in thiqs movie. |
| 11:51.02 | Iagooo | This* |
| 11:51.03 | Punkie` | why use spamsentry when you can use SCM :P |
| 11:51.11 | [dRaCo] | scm? |
| 11:51.16 | sbu | FtH|Daemona: huh? |
| 11:51.20 | Aeliel | yeah, 99% they're outside inns, which is why I found the existence of the mod interesting... on the other hand my brain immediately took off... |
| 11:51.27 | Punkie` | simple chat mods ofc :P |
| 11:51.32 | FtH|Daemona | cause i like paying back. e.g. reporting the suckers with as little pain for me as possible ;) |
| 11:51.45 | Aeliel | capture the "mail received" event, pop up a "New mail received, want directions to the nearest mailbox? y/n" dialog, if the user says yes pop up a waypoint :P |
| 11:52.07 | FtH|Daemona | Aeliel lol :D |
| 11:52.11 | Iagooo | You know those unit frames Punkie? |
| 11:52.12 | [dRaCo] | would be the most annoying addon ever ^^ |
| 11:52.59 | Aeliel | would only be annoying if it didn't have an option to tell it "stfu, I know where mailboxes are" :p |
| 11:53.20 | FtH|Daemona | hey [dRaCo] i dunno whats more annoying... that mail thingy or my idea of "cratographer_ping" that does a "Ping" sound every time your gatherering skill detection aura makes a yellow dot appear on the mini map |
| 11:53.40 | Punkie` | they look like discord or something |
| 11:53.46 | Aeliel | and thinking on it, the original addon (mapping mailboxes) would actually be pretty convenient in them new cities, where there's mailboxes sprinkled pretty much everywhere |
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| 11:53.56 | Aeliel | and hah, FtH|Daemona - I'd actually use that :P |
| 11:54.03 | semi-_ | I'd actually like mailboxes tracked, among other things |
| 11:54.16 | Aeliel | probably not with a "ping" sound, but a line added to chatframe would be nifty |
| 11:54.18 | FtH|Daemona | cartographer_poi should map mailboxes automagically shouldnt it? as you can ask guards for mailboxes, cant you? |
| 11:54.21 | semi-_ | especially if it gets to the point where you can just use a "/way add mail" or "/way add fp" for maximized laziness. |
| 11:54.30 | Aeliel | saves me going "...did I just imagine that yellow dot?" >_> |
| 11:54.42 | FtH|Daemona | Aeliel EXACTLY |
| 11:55.58 | Aeliel | because the farthest ones tend to stay on your minimap for about two seconds, which = annoying |
| 11:56.24 | semi-_ | i'd like a ping sound for waypoint arrows when you get over the target |
| 11:56.32 | Iagooo | Anyone here good at unit frame addons? |
| 11:56.33 | nevcairiel | so your thought changes to "did I just imagine that ping?" |
| 11:56.33 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:56.44 | Aeliel | hence why I said a line added to the chatframe ;) |
| 11:56.44 | Iceroth | cna you detect when those tiny yellow dots appear in the minimap? |
| 11:56.50 | vhaarr | Iceroth: no |
| 11:56.53 | semi-_ | I tend to auto-fly while alttabbed out with wow in fullscreen window mode with stuff on my second monitor like irc/aim |
| 11:56.59 | FtH|Daemona | nevcairiel surely not, cause i play with all disabled but char sounds ;) |
| 11:57.01 | Iceroth | that's what i thought :-/ |
| 11:57.04 | FtH|Daemona | and trolls dont ping ;) |
| 11:57.10 | vhaarr | Iceroth: I've tried scanning the Minimap frame for hidden children, but there's nothing there. |
| 11:57.23 | Aeliel | FtH|Daemona: trolls don't ping? damn, I could've sworn... :p |
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| 11:57.59 | Iceroth | iirc some addon moved the minimap under your curses and then wiggled it some to get the tooltips to see if there was anything |
| 11:58.22 | Iagooo | Iceroth |
| 11:58.25 | semi-_ | vhaarr: thats what I heard, which is unfortunate. theres a minimap icon that adds a large circle showing spell range, would be really useful if you could mix that with tracking {demons|undead|etc} |
| 11:58.34 | semi-_ | as is I don't see the point |
| 11:58.37 | Punkie` | Flying over Zangermarsh would be the a ping remix when flying over glowcaps :D |
| 11:59.03 | Aeliel | the glowcap sonata :p |
| 11:59.07 | Iceroth | :p |
| 11:59.08 | Iagooo | Any of you guys know exactly what addon this is http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=25327, pref the unit frame addon. |
| 11:59.22 | FtH|Daemona | Punkie` i dont care, i dont herb in zangar ;) |
| 11:59.31 | FtH|Daemona | and you can cancel the aura with a click onthe minimap button |
| 11:59.47 | Punkie` | its a joke *hands over a pill* |
| 12:00.07 | FtH|Daemona | i was dead serious about cartographer_ping :( |
| 12:00.19 | Punkie` | Iagooo: It looks like Discord, mainly because they look fugly:P |
| 12:00.33 | Punkie` | What we need is: |
| 12:00.41 | Punkie` | Cartographer_Yattaaa! |
| 12:00.53 | Punkie` | From Hiro in Heroes :> |
| 12:01.23 | Iagooo | Yeah mate, but is there any addon with the right WTF folder for those exact settings, I understand nothing about Discord. |
| 12:01.56 | Punkie` | I doubt it |
| 12:02.15 | Punkie` | browse through curse, you could get lucky :) |
| 12:03.11 | Iagooo | Tired of AG_uf, bugging all the time. |
| 12:03.23 | Punkie` | never bugs for me :/ |
| 12:03.48 | Iagooo | My rage bar bugs all the time. |
| 12:04.06 | Groll | not bugging on me really.. only thing that annoys the hell out of me is the alt - click to move it.. alt is a macro modifier so it's darn annoying |
| 12:04.09 | Iagooo | And as tank it's important for me to see how much rage I got, and it almost always bugs and shows wrng. |
| 12:04.18 | semi-_ | a better option would be to find out who that is and just ask them. |
| 12:04.25 | sbu | ah well, at least one bug there is... :p after releasing from tempest keep instances hp/mana display is at 0 ;) |
| 12:04.38 | vhaarr | it's a blizzard bug |
| 12:04.41 | sbu | oh? |
| 12:04.46 | sbu | ok, nothing said then ;p |
| 12:04.56 | Iceroth | there's something fishy about zoning right now yes |
| 12:05.11 | Iceroth | i've zoned in and out and i get reading i'm i combat both ways |
| 12:05.20 | Iagooo | I already tried Semi, but they play on US, and I play on EU. |
| 12:06.30 | semi-_ | can you not create chars on forign servers? I never tried |
| 12:06.34 | semi-_ | you could leave a comment on the movie site |
| 12:06.59 | Punkie` | Iagooo, why dont you try to delete your WTF entry for aguf? |
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| 12:14.28 | Hjalte | Does anyone know a guide to aggro, specifically if overhealing aggroes? |
| 12:14.35 | sbu | heh, fishing 225 -> 300 today = ~160 deviate for my gf -> more sex or sth like that ;) |
| 12:14.42 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30091 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:14.42 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 12:14.43 | CIA-18 | - Fix a typo in Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Leather |
| 12:14.56 | nevcairiel | lol sbu |
| 12:15.00 | Iagooo | I left a comment on the movie site Semi - And Punkie, I've used AG_uf for a long time and I am tired of it unless I get more skins. |
| 12:15.12 | Gagorian | Hjalte: Overhealing doesn't cause threat |
| 12:15.19 | Gagorian | One point of healing is 0.5 threat |
| 12:15.28 | Hjalte | I need to prove that to my guildies, Gagorian.. ;) |
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| 12:15.29 | nevcairiel | I think they increased that with BC Gagorian |
| 12:16.05 | Hjalte | I'm also quite sure that overhealing causes 0 threat. |
| 12:16.11 | Gagorian | hrrm, haven't heard of such a change.. but then again I'm not a healer. |
| 12:16.21 | vhaarr | Overhealing doesn't cause threat indeed. |
| 12:17.04 | Gagorian | Well, tbh I'm pretty sure healing is still 0.5 threat per point healed |
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| 12:17.20 | vhaarr | Hjalte: Are they whining on you for getting aggro or what? |
| 12:17.28 | Gagorian | mana gain is 0.5 per point mana gained |
| 12:17.51 | vhaarr | Gagorian: Except that VT is bugged and generates threat * 5, like BoW used to. |
| 12:18.08 | Hjalte | vhaar: Well, they do that sometimes, but some of them believes overhealing causes aggro. |
| 12:18.13 | Gagorian | vhaarr: gg :) |
| 12:18.29 | Hjalte | vhaarr* |
| 12:19.11 | vhaarr | Hjalte: There was a blue post about it a long, long time ago, and it said overhealing did not cause any threat. |
| 12:19.21 | vhaarr | Of course, they could've changed it since then, but I don't think so. |
| 12:19.25 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 12:19.33 | nevcairiel | healers wouldve noticed |
| 12:19.37 | vhaarr | indeed |
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| 12:22.40 | vhaarr | Crits are no exception either, I think. You still only generate as much threat as the actual amount of healing you did. |
| 12:23.17 | Hjalte | vhaarr, why would you generate additional threat on crits, except for the additional amount of healing? |
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| 12:23.35 | nevcairiel | only sucks when you do a 7k crit when nightbane just started his fiery blasts when being in-flight .. |
| 12:23.46 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yes, haha |
| 12:23.48 | vhaarr | Hjalte: I don't know. |
| 12:23.58 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: Crit at the start of the fight, just as he lands... ;) |
| 12:24.04 | UE|Daemona | Hjalte there is a nice thread on thread in the elitist-jerks forum by Kenco, maker of the KLHTM mod ;) |
| 12:24.07 | vhaarr | except that I crit for 8.3k :P |
| 12:24.09 | nevcairiel | except that i am a druid, and can go bear |
| 12:24.17 | UE|Daemona | thread on threat -.- |
| 12:24.23 | nevcairiel | until our pally can get the aggro back |
| 12:24.44 | nevcairiel | and 7k was an approx value :P |
| 12:25.00 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 12:25.04 | [Ammo] | bunch of treehugging epeen comparing healbots :p |
| 12:25.17 | nevcairiel | stupid warlocks |
| 12:25.18 | vhaarr | I'm not a treehugger, I'm a beerchugger! |
| 12:25.23 | haste | http://kotaku.com/gaming/final-fantasy-vii/clip:-korean-video-rips+off-ff-vii-243638.php << oh lol :D |
| 12:26.33 | evl | druids need some instaheal that works |
| 12:26.37 | vhaarr | "couldn't find their contact info" haha |
| 12:26.49 | evl | it's only when shit hits the fan a holy priest shows it's true superiority to resto |
| 12:26.51 | xyu | druids don't need anything die in a fire. |
| 12:27.12 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with druid insta heal? |
| 12:27.13 | haste | vhaarr: that was the epic part :D |
| 12:27.18 | nevcairiel | i dont see a priest doing that. |
| 12:27.22 | evl | "crap tank going down too fast, nvm no shield, wipe inc lol" |
| 12:27.50 | nevcairiel | a good druid always has rejuv up on the tank, thats another insta heal if needed |
| 12:28.15 | vhaarr | haste: And there's no mention that the base melody of the song is actually "Fur Elise" by Mozart. |
| 12:28.23 | vhaarr | Who the hell cares about such things?! |
| 12:28.28 | haste | do you need to mention that :D ? |
| 12:28.29 | vhaarr | fucking piece of shit pop artists |
| 12:28.51 | haste | some pop is good! |
| 12:29.00 | vhaarr | "look at me, I've got boobs, I'll take a classic song, add drums and dance and sing to it" |
| 12:29.05 | vhaarr | "oops, I'm a millionaire" |
| 12:29.20 | nevcairiel | damnit i need boobs |
| 12:29.40 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I hear ya |
| 12:30.02 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt have to work on that crappy software here then |
| 12:30.17 | vhaarr | haste: It's just that the "big news" is that they rip of FF. Like "ooooh". |
| 12:30.35 | vhaarr | haste: When it should be the fact that Mozart is being ripped off imo. |
| 12:30.43 | Gagorian | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28592 anyone have that? Could use confirmation that it's really bugged and gives a flat +96 even if BoL isn't active :P |
| 12:30.45 | haste | hehe |
| 12:31.07 | trh | many producers rip stuff, see http://youtube.com/watch?v=M4KX7SkDe4Q |
| 12:32.19 | vhaarr | okay, fuck that site |
| 12:32.28 | vhaarr | none of the commenters mention mozart either |
| 12:32.34 | vhaarr | what a bunch of nubs |
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| 12:34.51 | haste | lol |
| 12:36.52 | haste | :-( |
| 12:37.17 | wobin | bah |
| 12:37.45 | wobin | They could have not ripped off FF |
| 12:37.51 | wobin | and it'd still be a good video =P |
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| 12:39.19 | wobin | I'm kind of torn. On the one side, this is fan work with a budget and a girl who can actually wear the cosplay outfit and not look like Sailor Obesity, and you have to appreciate the time and effort it took to get the right angles, wires set up, and so on. And I even kind of dig the song (hey, it's about the Beethoven sonata - what's not to dig?). |
| 12:39.24 | wobin | There vhaarr =) |
| 12:40.33 | haste | wobin: I have a question for you! Are you still going to include a fubar plugin in MrPlow when you rewrite it? |
| 12:40.42 | wobin | probably, why? |
| 12:41.08 | haste | I gain nothing from fubarplugin, only that :p |
| 12:41.16 | haste | It's not much work to remove anyway |
| 12:41.36 | wobin | I use the click plow and ctrl-click bankstack often |
| 12:41.49 | wobin | but I can probably separate it out into an external file for you to delete |
| 12:42.44 | vhaarr | wobin: I think you should create a wiki page describing how the sorting mechanism will work in the next mrplow. |
| 12:42.47 | JoshBorke | gief splut! |
| 12:42.51 | vhaarr | wobin: I'm sure there would be lots of input. |
| 12:43.20 | wobin | hehe, I have to figure out how to OO the whole thing |
| 12:43.28 | wobin | or rather, how to abstract it |
| 12:44.01 | sylvanaar | i sense ... analysis paralysis in your future |
| 12:45.51 | doktoreas | is it true that exist an addon that warn you if you are too near to other player? |
| 12:48.29 | Punkie` | like c'thun warner? |
| 12:49.43 | doktoreas | yeah |
| 12:50.05 | doktoreas | a friend of mine told me this...i thought to use for maiden in karazhan |
| 12:50.22 | Health | How useful! She's so hardD! |
| 12:51.01 | CIA-18 | 03sylvanaar * r30092 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: EnableAddon -> EnableAddOn |
| 12:51.41 | doktoreas | Health, we died 6 times there :D |
| 12:52.00 | AKX | Regarding sampling.. http://akx.ath.cx/sampling-lol.mp3 -- Finnish hiphop vs classic rap song. (Kudos if you recognize the latter tune.) |
| 12:52.23 | Punkie` | it's not too big of a range really, just get a bit of distance thats all |
| 12:52.25 | Health | All 6 times because you didn't have an addon that told you to split up when you were all together all fight? |
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| 12:52.49 | doktoreas | ahahah |
| 12:52.55 | doktoreas | yeah you are right |
| 12:53.04 | doktoreas | the addon doesn't solve the problem |
| 12:53.08 | doktoreas | :) |
| 12:53.14 | doktoreas | our first time there |
| 12:53.16 | Punkie` | if you have a paladin, stick a blessing of sacrifice on the mt, and kerching, free healer when you get gouged |
| 12:53.59 | doktoreas | "kerching" is for? |
| 12:54.23 | Health | I think it's an expression |
| 12:55.05 | AKX | The cash register sound. |
| 12:55.16 | doktoreas | Punkie`, sorry what is kerching for? |
| 12:55.18 | echos | Is there a function in any of the libs @ wowace to return the current raid id of the instance? |
| 12:55.32 | Punkie` | its an expression |
| 12:55.37 | Punkie` | like 'Hey Presto!' |
| 12:55.37 | doktoreas | i was one of the priests in the raid |
| 12:55.56 | CIA-18 | 03usz * r30093 10TooltipExchange/ (Core.lua Modules/Loot.lua Modules/Prices.lua Modules/UI.lua): |
| 12:55.56 | CIA-18 | TooltipExchange |
| 12:55.56 | CIA-18 | - Added drop information to item tooltip |
| 12:55.56 | CIA-18 | - Added function to mine invalid items from result pane |
| 12:55.57 | CIA-18 | - Modified loot module to make better use of PeriodicTable lib |
| 12:55.57 | CIA-18 | - Fixed bugs in pricing module |
| 12:55.57 | Health | Just run up when she's about to cast repentence |
| 12:55.59 | CIA-18 | - Fixed tooltips sizing |
| 12:56.06 | wobin | AKX: It's a bit... fragmented? |
| 12:56.08 | doktoreas | Health, in the midle of the circle? |
| 12:56.16 | AKX | wobin, ? |
| 12:56.22 | wobin | 14 seconds? |
| 12:56.28 | Health | Just so you get hit by the concecration |
| 12:56.29 | AKX | Yeah, just the relevant sections |
| 12:56.32 | wobin | ah |
| 12:56.34 | vhaarr | echos: No, you'll have to parse the results from RequestRaidInfo() |
| 12:59.09 | echos | awww |
| 12:59.54 | doktoreas | Health, that because damage will break repentace? |
| 13:00.00 | doktoreas | *repentece |
| 13:00.07 | vhaarr | doktoreas: Yes. |
| 13:00.20 | doktoreas | oh that's very usefull |
| 13:00.22 | doktoreas | thank you |
| 13:00.22 | vhaarr | Just have a healer move in when BW says "Repetance soon". |
| 13:00.30 | vhaarr | And you win. |
| 13:00.45 | Elkano | how was that stuff with thw pala chaining? ;) |
| 13:00.49 | echos | Someone needs to make a lib to track raid ids and boss deaths... 1... 2... 3... Not it |
| 13:02.02 | kenlyric | vhaarr... screw healers. |
| 13:02.08 | kenlyric | have *everyone who can* move in. |
| 13:02.18 | kenlyric | that bitch be dead *fast* |
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| 13:02.39 | vhaarr | kenlyric: yes, but you only need one healer in to kill her |
| 13:02.42 | vhaarr | more is just a bonus |
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| 13:02.54 | kenlyric | not healers... dps :) |
| 13:02.56 | Health | A well geared tank takes the whole beating too! |
| 13:03.03 | kenlyric | dps up during repentance means she dies faster :) |
| 13:03.30 | Health | I haven't done her since she was nerfed again. |
| 13:03.35 | kenlyric | nerfed... lol |
| 13:03.48 | Punkie` | she was nerfed again? :o |
| 13:03.56 | kenlyric | the patch notes said she was nerfed. |
| 13:04.02 | kenlyric | the patch notes were big giant liars. |
| 13:04.07 | vhaarr | she seemed pretty much the same to me. |
| 13:04.19 | kenlyric | vhaarr: except that holy fire is now completely random. |
| 13:04.21 | Punkie` | shrug |
| 13:04.45 | kenlyric | not a big change, but requires your dispellers to be a little more on their toes. |
| 13:04.45 | vhaarr | kenlyric: I'm always in on the repetance, so before the patch, I always got holy fire. |
| 13:04.53 | vhaarr | Now others get it as well. |
| 13:05.10 | kenlyric | used to be whoever was closest outside of melee range. |
| 13:05.15 | vhaarr | right |
| 13:05.19 | vhaarr | that would be me then |
| 13:05.32 | Health | Which sucked. Both repetence damange and holy fire damage |
| 13:05.32 | kenlyric | rogues noticed no difference in concecration damage, which was the supposed nerf. |
| 13:05.45 | vhaarr | Health: nah, renew outheals it |
| 13:05.51 | vhaarr | kenlyric: indeed |
| 13:06.03 | kenlyric | which renew outheals holy fire damage? |
| 13:06.11 | kenlyric | cause, i don't have that renew that ticks for 1500. |
| 13:06.19 | CIA-18 | 03elkano * r30094 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2.lua: .Babble-Vendor-2.2: set keywords |
| 13:06.19 | vhaarr | you dispel that, obviously |
| 13:06.25 | vhaarr | I meant the concecration |
| 13:06.59 | kenlyric | we did notice that holy wrath seemed to do less damage/chain less. |
| 13:07.04 | kenlyric | maybe we just got better at spreading out. |
| 13:07.48 | UE|Daemona | just another clever question, anyone seen an addon that tells you what colors and count the gems in your gear have? e.g. a quick view to check if you might fullfill meta-gem reqs? |
| 13:08.07 | nevcairiel | hover the meta gem |
| 13:08.12 | nevcairiel | the UI does that for you :P |
| 13:08.29 | vhaarr | not if it's socketed already, you have to open the socket UI then |
| 13:08.33 | FtH|Daemona | -.- i dont happen to carry aound all those metagems ;) |
| 13:09.19 | kenlyric | meh... all I know is that meta gem requirements suck. |
| 13:09.48 | kenlyric | all the ones I've considered either requires five yellow gems or yellow > blue. |
| 13:09.57 | kenlyric | DIAF! |
| 13:10.11 | [Ammo] | 5 yellow gems in all your gear I presume? |
| 13:10.16 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 13:10.16 | [Ammo] | I never checked how metagems worked |
| 13:10.25 | [dRaCo] | the pvp ones only require 3 gems |
| 13:10.34 | [Ammo] | so you can't use the helm with the metagem if you don't have the correct other gems in your gear |
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| 13:10.37 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 13:10.40 | [dRaCo] | you can |
| 13:10.46 | chutwig | you can but it won't activate the gem or the bonus |
| 13:10.49 | [Ammo] | it just won't work |
| 13:10.49 | [dRaCo] | you just wont get the bonus from the gem |
| 13:10.50 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 13:10.55 | chutwig | and with the meta gem |
| 13:11.03 | chutwig | it only has to match one of the conditions listed |
| 13:11.14 | Iceroth | :O |
| 13:11.19 | Iagooo | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=25327 |
| 13:11.30 | Iagooo | How the hell do I setup my discord unit frame to look like that? |
| 13:11.32 | chutwig | like i have a meta gem in my hat that requires 5 of some color gem and i have 5 blue gems in other gear, so it activates |
| 13:11.34 | Iagooo | Especially the bars. |
| 13:12.02 | chutwig | you don't need 5 of every color of gem for it to work |
| 13:12.26 | Iceroth | so you are saying that if i have at least 5 gems of 1 color, this works: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25899 ? |
| 13:12.43 | kenlyric | chutwig, oh? it doesn't have to match all of them? |
| 13:12.47 | chutwig | aye |
| 13:12.50 | chutwig | nope |
| 13:12.54 | kenlyric | holy craptastic! |
| 13:12.57 | kenlyric | they should say that! |
| 13:13.01 | chutwig | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Rhovanion is my warlock |
| 13:13.09 | chutwig | you can see the meta gem activates on the 5 blue gems |
| 13:13.39 | Iceroth | holy cow |
| 13:13.40 | [Ammo] | iagooo: that's not discord |
| 13:13.42 | Iceroth | why doens't it say that |
| 13:13.50 | [Ammo] | iagoo: that's the default unitframes |
| 13:13.54 | [Ammo] | or we're looking at a different movie |
| 13:15.00 | Iceroth | ok, more gem questions: how do the mixed gems work? like orange, does it count as red, yellow or both? and what if meta gems says needs more yellow than red? |
| 13:15.11 | chutwig | it counts as either |
| 13:15.19 | chutwig | so i imagine it would increment both counts by one |
| 13:15.36 | FtH|Daemona | right |
| 13:15.42 | FtH|Daemona | "orange" gems count as yellow and red |
| 13:15.43 | chutwig | the meta gem system is kind of confusing |
| 13:15.56 | chutwig | since they never explain that it will activate on any one condition |
| 13:16.00 | FtH|Daemona | we asked more then once for a bluepost on exact mechanics -.- |
| 13:16.14 | Iceroth | it got a lot clearer now, thanks guys |
| 13:16.18 | FtH|Daemona | its kinda "meet the minimum requirements and be happy" |
| 13:16.22 | chutwig | because blizzard's so good at communicating with its player base |
| 13:16.34 | kenlyric | bluepost doesn't help. That info should be *in the tooltip* |
| 13:16.38 | kenlyric | OR is your friend. |
| 13:16.51 | FtH|Daemona | well e.g. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25897 |
| 13:16.52 | Iceroth | and why ' why are the good bits of infos buried somewhere deep i 10+ page threads <.< |
| 13:17.00 | FtH|Daemona | you could run this item just with 2 gems |
| 13:17.11 | FtH|Daemona | or a crapload ;) |
| 13:17.17 | FtH|Daemona | on the otherhand |
| 13:17.25 | chutwig | yeah |
| 13:17.30 | FtH|Daemona | did i mention you dont even have to put the required gems into the correct slots? |
| 13:17.34 | chutwig | once you understand how it works the conditions seem much less daunting to match |
| 13:17.43 | Iagooo | You sure Amo? |
| 13:17.44 | kenlyric | well, we all knew that I think. |
| 13:17.45 | chutwig | you can do that but it won't activate the socketing bonus |
| 13:17.45 | FtH|Daemona | e.g. you need 5 yellow gems in an item but only have blue and red slots |
| 13:17.46 | Iagooo | Ammo* |
| 13:17.48 | FtH|Daemona | you just socket5 yellow gems |
| 13:17.52 | chutwig | and you also can't put colored gems in meta gem slots |
| 13:18.00 | kenlyric | I use blue gems always unless I really want the socket bonus. |
| 13:18.14 | chutwig | i just have a stack of +9 stam gems |
| 13:18.29 | chutwig | and then a bunch of those orange spell crit/damage ones |
| 13:18.36 | kenlyric | though I'm thinking about changing that... going for a heavy spirit build doesn't work well in karazhan... too much constant flash-healing. |
| 13:18.49 | chutwig | have you done nightbane yet? |
| 13:18.54 | kenlyric | lol |
| 13:18.58 | kenlyric | no |
| 13:18.59 | chutwig | he's a tricksy one |
| 13:19.08 | kenlyric | I did have 702 spirit last night. |
| 13:19.15 | chutwig | i had 900 stam and it made me happy |
| 13:19.21 | mitch0 | back on the gem topic: I believe "Requires at least 5 Red gems, 5 Blue gems, 5 Yellow gems" means you need to have all of those, not just 5 blue, for example |
| 13:19.30 | chutwig | mitch0: i assure you it does not |
| 13:19.39 | mitch0 | chutwig: your gem doesn't require all |
| 13:19.47 | mitch0 | chutwig: that one only requires blue |
| 13:19.53 | chutwig | er? |
| 13:19.57 | mitch0 | that's why it works for you |
| 13:20.08 | chutwig | ah, so it does |
| 13:20.12 | mitch0 | "+18 Stamina 5% stun resist Requires at least 5 Blue gems" |
| 13:20.22 | chutwig | forget everything i said, then |
| 13:20.22 | vhaarr | kenlyric: Flash healing? |
| 13:20.24 | vhaarr | Where? |
| 13:20.24 | mitch0 | the ones that require all, really need all |
| 13:20.31 | Iagooo | Is anyone here good at Discord unit frames? |
| 13:20.35 | chutwig | they sure do have a hardon for making things annoying, in that case |
| 13:20.44 | chutwig | this is completely the wrong place to ask about discord |
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| 13:20.53 | FtH|Daemona | mitch0 i think you mix up the transmute to create the raw metagem that can be crafted with a created gems requirements ;) |
| 13:20.57 | [Ammo] | Iagoo: the movie from that mage you posted has the default unitframes, so you don't need discord |
| 13:20.58 | Iagooo | This is the only WoW irc channel I know :/ |
| 13:21.04 | vhaarr | kenlyric: The only place I use flash heal is at the ushers before the opera event. |
| 13:21.06 | mitch0 | FtH|Daemona: I think not |
| 13:21.15 | mitch0 | FtH|Daemona: http://www.wowwiki.com/Jewel |
| 13:21.20 | chutwig | karazhan is the land of big heals |
| 13:21.25 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 13:21.35 | chutwig | most of the level 70 stuff is |
| 13:21.36 | vhaarr | and I likes it |
| 13:21.44 | chutwig | i got stuck in a botanica group with some priest who apparently only knew flash heal |
| 13:21.44 | vhaarr | Spirit ftw. |
| 13:22.01 | chutwig | they died 4 times to thorngrin before i made up something about having heroic SL and got the hell out |
| 13:22.03 | Health | Human Spirit ftw! |
| 13:22.06 | vhaarr | chutwig: Well, if he has just leveled to 70, he doesn't really know better. |
| 13:22.24 | chutwig | vhaarr: it didn't help that his gheal hit for 3.2k max |
| 13:22.29 | vhaarr | :P |
| 13:22.37 | [Ammo] | everyone has to gear up someday :) |
| 13:22.41 | *** join/#wowace haarm (n=haarm@81-178-229-186.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 13:22.45 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 13:22.47 | [Ammo] | I love soul shatter atm |
| 13:22.52 | chutwig | he should probably have considered starting in steamvault, then |
| 13:22.57 | vhaarr | chutwig: my flash crits for 3.5 :P |
| 13:23.02 | [Ammo] | even with the aggro reduction talent my DoTs are usually out of control |
| 13:23.09 | chutwig | and soulshatter is wonderful except for the cooldown |
| 13:23.11 | [Ammo] | soulshatter saves me :p |
| 13:23.13 | kenlyric | vharr... I find myself having to use it a lot on big bad wolf. |
| 13:23.16 | chutwig | and Immune (Soulshatter) |
| 13:23.17 | Iceroth | hah, we have this priest who spammed flash heal on maulgar whole fight and has a really annyoing macro that he spams that sends message to our healer channel and /y that demands an innervate |
| 13:23.18 | [Ammo] | the cooldown is short enough to just use it |
| 13:23.20 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: And shadow fury, got that? |
| 13:23.23 | [Ammo] | nope |
| 13:23.25 | Iceroth | i so much would like to kick him to the face |
| 13:23.29 | [Ammo] | I'm an affliction addict |
| 13:23.32 | vhaarr | kenlyric: right, forgot about that one, we only had it once. |
| 13:23.33 | chutwig | deep destro is pretty wretched now |
| 13:23.35 | [Ammo] | always have been, always will |
| 13:23.36 | chutwig | except for nether protection |
| 13:23.37 | chutwig | nerf that shit |
| 13:23.39 | vhaarr | kenlyric: but yeah, I used it there as well |
| 13:23.40 | haarm | I hate it when locks overaggro, pull a mob to melee range, then soulshatter |
| 13:23.45 | kenlyric | I guess mostly I rely on the pallies to do little heals. |
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| 13:23.48 | haarm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.57 | kenlyric | so *mostly* my spirit build works. |
| 13:24.03 | chutwig | i jam on soulshatter as soon as i see something break off, but usually i'm careful enough that that doesn't happen |
| 13:24.11 | kenlyric | oh, and moroes, having to pretty much spam shackle. |
| 13:24.25 | vhaarr | kenlyric: You don't kill the adds first? |
| 13:24.26 | chutwig | i look forward to doing karazhan from a dps perspective now |
| 13:24.27 | kenlyric | 99% hit rate my ass |
| 13:24.35 | chutwig | got to do maulgar last night |
| 13:24.50 | kenlyric | chutwig, no... we leave two of the nastier ones shackled. |
| 13:24.59 | chutwig | that was vhaarr |
| 13:25.04 | vhaarr | :P |
| 13:25.07 | haarm | I got outdpsed by a warlock last night on Gruul, I was unhappy :/ |
| 13:25.07 | chutwig | chutwig, vhaarr |
| 13:25.07 | kenlyric | to reduce the amount of time under garotte. |
| 13:25.09 | chutwig | what's the difference |
| 13:25.14 | vhaarr | okay, we kill them all |
| 13:25.19 | chutwig | oh man i'm not going to have stoneform on garrote now :( |
| 13:25.23 | chutwig | that's going to suck |
| 13:25.28 | vhaarr | Stoneform <3 |
| 13:25.32 | vhaarr | Luffa wru? |
| 13:25.44 | chutwig | they should've made dwarf warlock a playable combo |
| 13:25.51 | chutwig | i would've gone that way in an instant |
| 13:26.03 | haarm | and Orc Priests, for the 40% stun resist :D |
| 13:26.09 | [Ammo] | gnome priests |
| 13:26.10 | kenlyric | yeah, nobody has the luffa, and no darfs in our raids except one tank. |
| 13:26.11 | vhaarr | Gnome priests. |
| 13:26.12 | [Ammo] | finally make a gnome only guild :p |
| 13:26.19 | chutwig | dwarf warlock would never fear rogues! |
| 13:26.43 | [dRaCo] | the luffa doesnt work on moroes garotte anymore... |
| 13:26.58 | vhaarr | Really? |
| 13:26.58 | kenlyric | so I wonder why my guild saves the two nastier ones for after the boss? |
| 13:27.00 | vhaarr | That's silly. |
| 13:27.00 | haarm | [Ammo] the guildname would have to have the word "Circus" in it |
| 13:27.05 | kenlyric | it works fine, except when shackle is being nasty. |
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| 13:27.13 | chutwig | doesn't garotte disappear as soon as moroes dies |
| 13:27.15 | [Ammo] | haarm: naah |
| 13:27.16 | vhaarr | kenlyric: Just kill them, what's the problem? |
| 13:27.17 | chutwig | garrote |
| 13:27.18 | [Ammo] | Gnomeland Security |
| 13:27.19 | haarm | it does now chutwig |
| 13:27.21 | chutwig | hate that word |
| 13:27.29 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: My alt guild is called that. |
| 13:27.33 | [dRaCo] | they nerfed it to only remove debuffs from targets < 60 |
| 13:27.38 | chutwig | i never noticed previously because i always stoneformed or shielded out of it |
| 13:27.38 | haarm | failed at originality :/ |
| 13:27.41 | kenlyric | vhaarr: the shadow priest is particularly nasty, what with the stealing everyone's mana in one shot. |
| 13:27.43 | [Ammo] | when we merged guilds earlier I voted for: Lemmings |
| 13:27.48 | [Ammo] | excellent name for a raiding guild |
| 13:27.55 | chutwig | we keep the ret paladin CC'd until the end |
| 13:27.59 | haarm | there's some sort of lemmings guild on Azune |
| 13:28.02 | chutwig | usually kill the shadow and holy priests first |
| 13:28.03 | kenlyric | but still, there's got to be a reason that we do it :) |
| 13:28.05 | [Ammo] | throw yourself at big badass mobs instead of from cliffs |
| 13:28.13 | chutwig | and the MS warrior |
| 13:28.15 | chutwig | fuck that guy |
| 13:28.27 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Geir |
| 13:28.29 | vhaarr | My twink! |
| 13:28.40 | haarm | chutwig, the only thing we do as standard, is shackle the the holy pala dispelling bitch |
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| 13:29.01 | kenlyric | oh god,kill that bitch first. |
| 13:29.03 | chutwig | haarm: we usually have 2 paladins and 2 priests so we shackle or fear everything, pretty much |
| 13:29.18 | kenlyric | but you still kill them all before moroes? |
| 13:29.25 | chutwig | usually there's one left over after moroes |
| 13:29.42 | haarm | we do 2, moroes, 2... 2 priests, 1 pala (sometimes) |
| 13:29.48 | Iceroth | we keep the WW dude shackled at least |
| 13:29.56 | chutwig | we go in order but if the CC holds up we'll focus on moroes first to get rid of the garrote |
| 13:29.59 | kenlyric | well, so we're not the only people doing this :) |
| 13:30.05 | chutwig | garrote plus mortal strike equals sad panda |
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| 13:30.28 | vhaarr | well we kill them all, and it works fine as well, and it saves priests the FSR loss from shackling |
| 13:30.51 | kenlyric | which warrior does whirlwind? |
| 13:31.13 | chutwig | i am in dire need of +hit |
| 13:31.14 | kenlyric | cause, he was shackle-break happy last night, and made me very dead. |
| 13:31.34 | chutwig | i just mained my warlock last week because we have enough healers now and we're down to 2 warlocks, myself included |
| 13:31.37 | kenlyric | we switched targets, and the shadow priest took him... 15% physical damage reduction, and +hit gear. |
| 13:31.37 | Iceroth | well at least 1 of them dispels the shackles too |
| 13:31.41 | chutwig | need more hit |
| 13:31.46 | chutwig | mooooooooore hit |
| 13:31.50 | vhaarr | kenlyric: I usually cast 3 shackles/10sec when CC'ing. |
| 13:31.52 | kenlyric | we kill the holy pally as fast as possible. |
| 13:32.00 | haarm | oh yea vharr, I was wondering about the Netherspite bossmod, just an idea to run past you, do you think it would be helpful to have some bars showing the number of stacks on people currently in the beams? |
| 13:32.04 | chutwig | we usually leave the MS warrior or ret paladin CC'd until the end |
| 13:32.06 | vhaarr | It's so cheap anyway. |
| 13:32.09 | chutwig | if possible |
| 13:32.22 | kenlyric | vhaarr: I try to do it less once we're on moroes, and just get far enough away. |
| 13:32.28 | vhaarr | haarm: no |
| 13:32.32 | kenlyric | yeah, I always try to time it with a heal. |
| 13:32.32 | haarm | ok ;) |
| 13:32.45 | chutwig | uni-mind headdress |
| 13:33.48 | chutwig | it will be mine |
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| 13:33.48 | kenlyric | I died so much last night... tanks who suck at initial aggro FTL :( |
| 13:33.50 | chutwig | i want to do karazhan tonight but tonight's a break night |
| 13:33.55 | chutwig | though we may go anyway if my group's up for it |
| 13:33.56 | haarm | yea if hunter damage didn't suck so much you could use misdirection :D |
| 13:34.05 | vhaarr | kenlyric: Our worst Nightbane attempt ever was when he parried our tanks first *7* hits. |
| 13:34.06 | haarm | i mean, have an excuse to have one in the raid |
| 13:34.28 | chutwig | i friggin' hate nightbane |
| 13:34.31 | vhaarr | Needless to say, Nightbane killed me since I had to heal at some point :P |
| 13:34.37 | vhaarr | chutwig: I love that fight, it's so easy. |
| 13:34.37 | haarm | what? It's so easy after the nerf... |
| 13:34.41 | kenlyric | vhaarr: I've thought about writing a macro that casts fade right after the first two heals on this guy :) |
| 13:34.43 | chutwig | our groups have him to 23 and 47 percent respectively |
| 13:34.51 | nevcairiel | we overhealed nightbane yesterday |
| 13:34.57 | nevcairiel | fight took 15minutes |
| 13:34.59 | haarm | chutwig, after the patch? |
| 13:35.03 | nevcairiel | but eventually, we won :D |
| 13:35.09 | chutwig | haarm: yes |
| 13:35.11 | haarm | :/ |
| 13:35.13 | Stephmw | vhaarr: btw, closetgnome gets confused by enchanted items/socketted items |
| 13:35.13 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: good for you that he doesn't enrage :P |
| 13:35.17 | kenlyric | I pulled *maiden* off of him. |
| 13:35.17 | nevcairiel | ya :P |
| 13:35.18 | chutwig | the priests are still having issues with the whole "getting out of the way" thing |
| 13:35.20 | vhaarr | Stephmw: no, it doesn't |
| 13:35.22 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 13:35.23 | kenlyric | then again, he charged into her... |
| 13:35.24 | nevcairiel | no mages were online |
| 13:35.33 | chutwig | and tbqh our mage is a bit of an idiot |
| 13:35.36 | vhaarr | Stephmw: It's not the same item any more, so you'll have to update the set. |
| 13:35.38 | chutwig | he's alternatively good and completely retarded |
| 13:35.41 | nevcairiel | so we had 3 priests, a druid (me), and a healing paly |
| 13:35.49 | nevcairiel | one of the priests was shadow tho |
| 13:35.51 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: haha |
| 13:35.57 | kenlyric | karazhan with three healers makes me cry. |
| 13:35.58 | chutwig | our problem is getting the skeletons together quickly to frost nova |
| 13:36.05 | vhaarr | kenlyric: we use 2 |
| 13:36.09 | chutwig | if they do that i can go crazy with seed of corruption and the skeletons explode |
| 13:36.12 | Stephmw | vhaarr: drat |
| 13:36.20 | chutwig | if they don't then i'm probably going to get my ass kicked |
| 13:36.21 | haarm | well all you really need to remember is, the smoking blast aoe range is about half the width of the balcony area, get priests to shackle the first 2 skellies, tank and dps the rest and get a paladin to take the smoking blast |
| 13:36.29 | kenlyric | vhaarr: and where you are in the instance tells me you have a better guild than I do :) |
| 13:36.31 | vhaarr | chutwig: why frost nova? there's only 3 anyway |
| 13:36.39 | nevcairiel | isnt it 5? |
| 13:36.42 | chutwig | i think it's 5 |
| 13:36.46 | chutwig | i always saw 5 |
| 13:36.48 | haarm | 5 now |
| 13:36.52 | haarm | you can't break it |
| 13:36.58 | vhaarr | ah, right, after the hotfix |
| 13:36.59 | haarm | pre-patch you could use bop to get 2-3 |
| 13:37.04 | nevcairiel | but we dont frostnova either |
| 13:37.08 | nevcairiel | just tank and dps |
| 13:37.10 | vhaarr | well we killed him without a mage on sunday |
| 13:37.23 | haarm | we don't, shackle 2, have a tank raid marking one |
| 13:37.31 | chutwig | nightbane brings back awful memories of the nef skeleton zerg one-shotting priests |
| 13:37.38 | haarm | :P |
| 13:37.40 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:37.53 | [Ammo] | Stratholme Holy Water! |
| 13:37.58 | vhaarr | lol |
| 13:37.58 | chutwig | and everyone's computer lagging down to a standstill while we desperately tried to kill all the skeletons at 2 fps |
| 13:38.01 | chutwig | and then nef fears |
| 13:38.01 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: Does it work? |
| 13:38.03 | chutwig | and everyone lags out again |
| 13:38.08 | [Ammo] | if they are skellingtons it works |
| 13:38.10 | [Ammo] | ofcourse it does |
| 13:38.12 | haarm | vs undeads :) |
| 13:38.15 | [Ammo] | if they are undead they get hurt :p; |
| 13:38.17 | vhaarr | cool |
| 13:38.22 | chutwig | time to farm strat! |
| 13:38.25 | [Ammo] | works on the nef zerg :p |
| 13:38.26 | vhaarr | indeed! |
| 13:38.28 | vhaarr | just for fun! |
| 13:38.29 | haarm | but they hotfixed it so you can do non-hoyl magical damage to them |
| 13:38.30 | kenlyric | how would a skelly zerg get priests? |
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| 13:38.34 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: yes I know *that* :P |
| 13:38.35 | kenlyric | mages and pallies completely asleep? |
| 13:38.42 | vhaarr | kenlyric: fps lag |
| 13:38.47 | chutwig | remember in the olden days |
| 13:38.48 | kenlyric | for everyone? |
| 13:38.48 | haarm | back at nef, we didn't have pallies ;) |
| 13:38.54 | chutwig | when mass fear would make everyone lag to hell |
| 13:38.54 | vhaarr | kenlyric: you never lagged at nef? |
| 13:38.58 | kenlyric | no. |
| 13:39.02 | vhaarr | I always lagged. |
| 13:39.07 | kenlyric | skellies were far, far away from me |
| 13:39.10 | chutwig | everyone did except pathological liars like ken |
| 13:39.16 | vhaarr | the zerg .. total freeze for 6-7 seconds |
| 13:39.18 | vhaarr | at least |
| 13:39.22 | kenlyric | mostly warlock summons that would get priests, if anything. |
| 13:39.25 | Health | Get a better computer! |
| 13:39.31 | Silviu- | vhaarr i know the feeling :/ |
| 13:39.33 | [Ammo] | hmm I never had the freeze problem |
| 13:39.43 | nevcairiel | neither did i |
| 13:39.43 | chutwig | it was a game issue, there was something about the mass fear lag in patch notes around 1.11 or 1.12 |
| 13:39.47 | haarm | only freeze problem i had at nef was sucky ati drivers |
| 13:39.53 | [Ammo] | don't use ati cards |
| 13:39.56 | [Ammo] | problem solved |
| 13:39.57 | chutwig | shake shake shake rrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRUMBLE |
| 13:39.58 | vhaarr | hrm yes I was using ATI back then as well |
| 13:40.01 | vhaarr | now I have nvidia |
| 13:40.09 | [Ammo] | nvidia is much better supported for wow |
| 13:40.18 | haarm | ok... if you have an ati card... don't look at chromaggus! |
| 13:40.23 | vhaarr | I remember the crashes before nef as well, at chrom |
| 13:40.26 | haarm | *faces the other way and heals* |
| 13:40.26 | vhaarr | right |
| 13:40.36 | [Ammo] | probably something to do with the nvidia logo on the blizz site :p |
| 13:40.38 | chutwig | the only ATI-related crash i ever had was the one in searing gorge |
| 13:40.44 | haarm | it was the same deal |
| 13:40.52 | chutwig | i didn't get crashes at chromaggus or anything |
| 13:40.53 | haarm | dodgy compressed texture or something |
| 13:40.54 | vhaarr | but now there's a nvidia-related crash in terokkar |
| 13:41.00 | vhaarr | on 8800 cards, I think |
| 13:41.04 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 13:41.11 | kenlyric | remember to zoom all the way in so you get first-person perspective. |
| 13:41.15 | chutwig | but then the card blew up for unrelated reasons and i got a 7600GT |
| 13:41.25 | kenlyric | then stare at a walll :) |
| 13:41.32 | vhaarr | 7600GT ftw |
| 13:41.40 | nevcairiel | 7900gtx ftw |
| 13:41.47 | chutwig | BC's added graphical detail has made it begun to lag a bit |
| 13:41.50 | kenlyric | man, I need to upgrade. |
| 13:41.52 | vhaarr | fancypants :( |
| 13:41.57 | kenlyric | I just don't have any games that really need it. |
| 13:41.57 | chutwig | but it's not worth buying a new card |
| 13:42.06 | Silviu- | i need to upgrade too :/ |
| 13:42.11 | kenlyric | I get no lag with my 6600, now that i've upgraded to 1.5g of ram. |
| 13:42.15 | Silviu- | FX 5700 :/ |
| 13:42.33 | Health | I think I'm using a 7800 |
| 13:42.35 | Health | something! |
| 13:45.37 | chutwig | i get graphical lag in the shade of aran room |
| 13:45.38 | chutwig | it's weird |
| 13:46.04 | Stephmw | Silviu-: I used to have a 5700 - needed to keep detail fairly low with it |
| 13:46.14 | Stephmw | Silviu-: now have a 7600GS |
| 13:46.55 | kenlyric | if you're getting lag from additional items on the screen, more ram is probably better than faster video. |
| 13:47.09 | chutwig | i'm already at 1.5 gigs and that computer does nothing but run WoW |
| 13:47.14 | kenlyric | turning detail down doesn't help a whole lot when the lag is caused by massive numbers of objects being loaded. |
| 13:47.21 | chutwig | i only mention it because it's one of the few places where my framerate does drop |
| 13:47.41 | kenlyric | I can ride through ironforge now without lag. Then again, there's no one there.... |
| 13:47.49 | chutwig | try darnassus |
| 13:47.56 | Silviu- | Stephmw yes i run with lowest details ... not a problem tho .. i have verry good fps :) |
| 13:47.56 | chutwig | a desolate wasteland |
| 13:47.56 | kenlyric | my framerate would always drop when flying into shattrath. |
| 13:48.11 | kenlyric | darnassus is always empty. That's one of its comforts. |
| 13:48.31 | chutwig | these days SW has more people than IF |
| 13:48.39 | chutwig | because of its proximity to the portal for people who don't want to hearth |
| 13:50.20 | haarm | chutwig, why don't they just set their hearth in shattrah and portal to any other city they need? |
| 13:50.56 | kenlyric | I think that's what he means. |
| 13:50.56 | chutwig | haarm: no, i mean they fly from SW to the portal rather than hearthing back to shattrath |
| 13:51.09 | kenlyric | or if your hearth is on cooldown. |
| 13:51.15 | kenlyric | yeah, i always choose stormwind. |
| 13:51.15 | haarm | use unstuck! |
| 13:51.19 | haarm | ;x |
| 13:51.41 | kenlyric | except when I'm going to caverns of time. Fucking caverns of time. |
| 13:51.54 | kenlyric | or as I like to call it, AQ 2.0 |
| 13:52.18 | AKX | What's the macro modifier for "mouse button 2"? |
| 13:52.30 | chutwig | CoT is the only reason i'm annoyed i gave up engineering on my paladin |
| 13:52.38 | chutwig | because i could just teleport there |
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| 13:53.38 | kenlyric | I wonder if mages still keep their hearth in tanaris. |
| 13:54.23 | [Ammo] | gnomish teleport ftw |
| 13:54.31 | kovi | why would you, it's not like you go CoT all day long |
| 13:54.53 | chutwig | these days i just take the portal to darnassus and fly |
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| 13:55.23 | chutwig | i hate barely missing the boat |
| 13:55.24 | kenlyric | it seems like it when I'm going there. |
| 13:56.11 | [Ammo] | just send 2 people with gnomish engineering ahead |
| 13:56.14 | kenlyric | so, where do mages put their hearths then? darkshire? |
| 13:56.15 | [Ammo] | and use the meeting stone :) |
| 13:56.22 | kenlyric | oh right, lots of gnomish engineers out there. |
| 13:56.33 | [Ammo] | there's plenty in my guild |
| 13:56.46 | kenlyric | most engineers smarted up a long time ago and got a real profession :) |
| 13:56.57 | [Ammo] | I'm tempted to change |
| 13:57.03 | [Ammo] | got most of the mats for 300 jewelcrafting |
| 13:57.06 | kenlyric | they're supposed to buff it 2.1 |
| 13:57.10 | [Ammo] | but waiting for the damn ervamp |
| 13:57.12 | [Ammo] | revamp |
| 13:57.21 | Gagorian | I dropped engineering about one week into TBC |
| 13:57.26 | Gagorian | engineers got shafted... and hard. |
| 13:57.37 | kenlyric | they added those awesome injectors, but they offer no benefit but to save bag space. What a waste. |
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| 13:57.53 | kenlyric | injectors could have been sooo much cooler. |
| 13:58.07 | kenlyric | increase effect, let you use them on other people... |
| 13:58.08 | Gagorian | The advantages can't come close to the advantages of other professions... |
| 13:58.22 | Gagorian | Maybe even.. save some pots. |
| 13:58.26 | Gagorian | Like.. 10 pots for 20 charges |
| 13:58.26 | kenlyric | the advantages of most professions are fleeting. |
| 13:58.56 | Gagorian | Tailoring is just pure sickness.. Beats t5 easily so that was my choice over engineering. |
| 13:59.13 | kenlyric | yeah, I'm seriously considering tailoring for the two healer sets. |
| 13:59.22 | kenlyric | but then again, once I make them, what do I do with my profession? |
| 13:59.34 | Punkie` | Engineering rules! |
| 13:59.35 | kenlyric | it's truefaith vestments all over again. |
| 13:59.35 | Gagorian | Well I make sick money with tailoring |
| 13:59.54 | kenlyric | plus, have to kill stuff for the mats for tailoring. |
| 14:00.10 | Gagorian | Cloth sells well (3 separate cooldowns).. but most of all if you got a rare recipy == $$$ |
| 14:00.19 | kenlyric | sure, now. |
| 14:00.24 | [Ammo] | I'll see what the engineering revamp does |
| 14:00.34 | [Ammo] | till then I'm sticking with my engineering |
| 14:00.58 | Gagorian | Well, you need tailoring to wear the gear.. so even if I got 0 money from it.. it's worth it. |
| 14:00.58 | kenlyric | it just blows chunks that the healer set is bop and the damage sets are boe. |
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| 14:01.19 | kenlyric | well, I guess it makes the healing tailors happy :) |
| 14:01.23 | Gagorian | Well speciality sets are BoP for each class.. and damage sets need tailoring to wear |
| 14:01.26 | Health | Frozen Shadoweave isn't boe. |
| 14:02.05 | kenlyric | but there are boe sets for damage casters. |
| 14:02.40 | Gagorian | Well, yeah, but the bonus requires tailoring |
| 14:02.50 | Gagorian | so it's still win |
| 14:03.14 | [Ammo] | I wonder what someone is thinking posting something on trade: [some epic] 470-540g |
| 14:03.18 | [Ammo] | boggle |
| 14:03.19 | kenlyric | plus, as a spirit whore, I'm afraid i'd be horribly addicted to that primal mooncloth set bonus :) |
| 14:03.20 | [Ammo] | in a WTS too |
| 14:03.30 | [Ammo] | ofcourse I'll get it for your cheapest price |
| 14:03.36 | [Ammo] | if I wanted it |
| 14:03.48 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 14:04.04 | Punkie` | I always hate the 'Make me an offer' |
| 14:04.11 | [Ammo] | 1c |
| 14:04.17 | Punkie` | or 'Someone just bid 10g over you' |
| 14:04.26 | [Ammo] | I reply with: sell it to them then bye |
| 14:04.30 | kenlyric | lol. |
| 14:04.31 | Punkie` | yeah same |
| 14:04.35 | kenlyric | I don't even look at trade channel. |
| 14:04.40 | Punkie` | then 5 mins later, oh that guy was kidding ! |
| 14:04.41 | kenlyric | use the auction house or go away. |
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| 14:04.56 | [Ammo] | I'm trying to make some cash at work from the auctionhouse :p |
| 14:05.03 | [Ammo] | scan scan scan scan scan |
| 14:05.10 | Punkie` | I found the easiest way to make money from the AH |
| 14:05.20 | kenlyric | sell everything. |
| 14:05.28 | Punkie` | Some people sell the new spell power books for dead cheap |
| 14:05.34 | Punkie` | well new as in old |
| 14:05.38 | Punkie` | from AQ20 |
| 14:05.41 | Punkie` | for like 5g! |
| 14:05.46 | [Ammo] | they go for 10g at vendor |
| 14:05.48 | Punkie` | sells for 10g to vendor |
| 14:05.49 | kenlyric | lol. |
| 14:05.57 | kenlyric | really dumb people are my hero. |
| 14:06.03 | Punkie` | yep |
| 14:06.08 | Punkie` | i bought like 12 of em |
| 14:06.09 | Punkie` | :D |
| 14:06.10 | kenlyric | The average price of one of the gems on my server is 95silver. |
| 14:06.44 | [Ammo] | I've got 2 options really, try and make some money or use my flexible friend and get it from the chinese |
| 14:07.32 | sylvanaar | does anyone have baggins bag/category setups they can share? |
| 14:07.34 | kenlyric | mining + herbalism + epic mount === $$$$ |
| 14:07.48 | [Ammo] | I need the epic mount first :) |
| 14:07.50 | Punkie` | terocone + mana thistle = $$$ :P |
| 14:07.51 | [Ammo] | still 3000 gold short |
| 14:08.05 | kenlyric | I use too much terocone, and i'm hording mana thistle. |
| 14:08.12 | Punkie` | yeah, ditto |
| 14:08.12 | sylvanaar | I got some alchy recipie Insane Strength |
| 14:08.20 | Punkie` | gratsmate |
| 14:08.29 | sylvanaar | Its been in my mailbox for a month |
| 14:08.33 | kenlyric | though, I think i figured out that using a flask of might restoration is much more efficient than the four elixirs I was using. |
| 14:08.52 | kenlyric | elixirs are fine if I don't die :) |
| 14:09.00 | nevcairiel | use both |
| 14:09.01 | Punkie` | are you potion specced? |
| 14:09.01 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 14:09.15 | semi-_ | i dont feel that a faster flying mount that only works in outlands is worth 5K gold |
| 14:09.24 | [Ammo] | it's worth it |
| 14:09.25 | kenlyric | semi-_: that's because you don't have one. |
| 14:09.25 | semi-_ | rather just let other people fly there and summon me |
| 14:09.35 | kenlyric | if you don't farm, then no, it's not worht it. |
| 14:09.37 | Punkie` | i agree with kenlyric :P |
| 14:09.40 | semi-_ | if you two both have one and fly there and summon me, its still pretty fast. |
| 14:09.40 | [Ammo] | but I'm not sure it's worth forking real euros for gold |
| 14:09.49 | Punkie` | flying mount + fishing |
| 14:10.02 | kenlyric | it took me two weeks to make 4000g. Don't buy it. |
| 14:10.03 | Punkie` | made me euh, 120 motes of water in less than 2 hours |
| 14:10.16 | semi-_ | i'd rather save the gold for buying mats for raiding |
| 14:10.22 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: how many hours per week do you play |
| 14:10.28 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: I play 8 hours a week or so :p |
| 14:10.33 | kenlyric | for farming, not all that much. |
| 14:10.44 | kenlyric | a lot of that was post-70 quest gold. |
| 14:10.46 | [Ammo] | I worked for my heroic keys etc |
| 14:10.52 | [Ammo] | as a prio |
| 14:10.56 | Punkie` | Ammo, less playing on your nub rogue, more farming goldz |
| 14:10.57 | [Ammo] | now gold is the prio |
| 14:10.57 | kenlyric | heck, I still had skinning before I got the epic. |
| 14:11.38 | semi-_ | then again I'm getting tired of the fact that this entire genre is little more than investing time and money to try to raise a few numbers in a database, so I'm kind jaded. |
| 14:11.38 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: haha, when I'm fed up with playing on my higher level chars I go chill on the nub rogue |
| 14:11.38 | [Ammo] | duskwood is lots of fun |
| 14:11.38 | semi-_ | much less inclined to sit around and farm all day |
| 14:11.40 | [Ammo] | that 70 druid must have been pissed yesterday :p |
| 14:11.43 | [Ammo] | sap, run |
| 14:11.46 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 14:12.00 | [Ammo] | he killed me ofcourse but by then I was already next to the graveyard :) |
| 14:12.09 | semi-_ | as long as you're smart about it. i remember a 30 rogue thinking it was a good idea to sap me infront of a lowbie instance I was running a friend through |
| 14:12.18 | semi-_ | seduced before he got inside |
| 14:12.20 | semi-_ | didn't last much longer. |
| 14:12.44 | [Ammo] | I play for fun |
| 14:12.44 | [Ammo] | and sapping high level chars is fun |
| 14:12.44 | Punkie` | i think its funnier that the rogue sapped you than you nuked him :P |
| 14:13.24 | Punkie` | i also thought it was funny that my new bow critted a mage who was on 20% running down the road for 1.2k :D |
| 14:13.31 | semi-_ | what was fun pvp wise was some lowbie hunter by the flightpath in gadzetzan being flagged up and attacking some alliance getting the guard to kill him.. then me corpse camping him by just oneshotting him from enough range that the guards didnt care |
| 14:13.33 | CIA-18 | 03ammo * r30095 10SimpleChatMods/antispam.lua: SimpleChatMods: block helpugame.com |
| 14:13.43 | kenlyric | I need a pvp server |
| 14:13.53 | kenlyric | I've always wanted to try one, but th3ere are too many to choose. |
| 14:14.01 | semi-_ | that stuff is why pvp servers would be fun, but the last thing I need is to be on the other side of that. |
| 14:14.03 | Punkie` | Kazzak is where it's at |
| 14:14.13 | [Ammo] | being on the other side is ok |
| 14:14.22 | [Ammo] | I mean, there is zero penalty in wow pvp |
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| 14:14.29 | kenlyric | I'm not sure what class I would roll either. |
| 14:14.33 | Punkie` | unless you get airshotted :D |
| 14:14.35 | semi-_ | trying to farm or finish a quest and having someone who completely overpowers you have you at their whim, not because they're better or more skilled, just because they put more time into their character. |
| 14:14.39 | semi-_ | (or payed more on ebay) |
| 14:14.46 | Punkie` | who cares? |
| 14:14.50 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 14:14.56 | Punkie` | if you dont like it, sit there cosy on your normal server :P |
| 14:15.03 | semi-_ | compared to say a first person shooter where you can be better by outskilling, or an rts where you need to be better strategicly. |
| 14:15.10 | semi-_ | i do, for now |
| 14:15.36 | Punkie` | having 10 people from your guild take over the entrance to Arcatraz is awesome |
| 14:15.42 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:15.42 | kenlyric | I could be lazy and go nelf hunter. |
| 14:16.05 | Punkie` | Lazy = dranaei hunter |
| 14:16.10 | Punkie` | free heal ftw :P |
| 14:16.32 | boobies4u | nelf hunter named xxlegolazxx |
| 14:16.34 | boobies4u | ftw |
| 14:16.41 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:16.50 | kenlyric | free heal but no shadowmeld. |
| 14:16.59 | kenlyric | I hide from JOO! |
| 14:17.01 | [Ammo] | shadowmeld isn't very useful |
| 14:17.04 | Punkie` | its not so great |
| 14:17.07 | boobies4u | shadowmeld and prowl in blackrock mounten ftw |
| 14:17.10 | kenlyric | zomglies |
| 14:17.10 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 14:17.13 | nevcairiel | shadowmeld is good for afk'ing :D |
| 14:17.16 | Punkie` | its like the stealth level of a level 40 |
| 14:17.20 | Funkeh` | oh yeah cause shadowmelding on top of the trap is useful |
| 14:17.25 | Funkeh` | hmmm where could he be?!? |
| 14:17.37 | Punkie` | but well |
| 14:17.40 | Punkie` | gnomes > * |
| 14:17.45 | boobies4u | gnomes sux |
| 14:17.52 | Funkeh` | * > gnomes |
| 14:17.53 | Punkie` | nah |
| 14:17.54 | kenlyric | or belf rogue. |
| 14:18.05 | boobies4u | blizzard did research and found out that people who roll gnomes has less then 10 cm average length on their penis |
| 14:18.12 | kenlyric | that's my problem... deciding on a class/race combo, since I probably only want one :) |
| 14:18.23 | Funkeh` | rofl |
| 14:18.23 | [Ammo] | gnome or dorf |
| 14:18.29 | [Ammo] | no other choice possible |
| 14:18.30 | Funkeh` | oi |
| 14:18.31 | kenlyric | nobody rolls a dwarf. |
| 14:18.38 | boobies4u | female dwarf is FTW imo |
| 14:18.40 | Funkeh` | dwarf rule |
| 14:18.43 | Funkeh` | they are the PIMP |
| 14:18.46 | boobies4u | ye |
| 14:18.46 | kenlyric | boobs as weapons |
| 14:18.51 | Punkie` | dwarf are the best race pve wise :P |
| 14:18.58 | boobies4u | i want to see more female dwarfs |
| 14:19.05 | boobies4u | their dance and /laugh is hilarious |
| 14:19.14 | kenlyric | I found a female dwarf rogue once. |
| 14:19.21 | Funkeh` | thats rare |
| 14:19.22 | Punkie` | so did i |
| 14:19.26 | Punkie` | i took a screenshot of it |
| 14:19.28 | boobies4u | thats epic kenlyric |
| 14:19.28 | Punkie` | ill find it |
| 14:19.31 | kenlyric | pre TBC at least, that was the most rare. |
| 14:19.32 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 14:19.49 | semi-_ | female dwarf pallies arnt too uncommon |
| 14:19.54 | boobies4u | iv never seen a female dwarf warrior |
| 14:20.55 | semi-_ | gnomish warriors have the best attack animations |
| 14:21.32 | Punkie` | damn, i have too many screenshots of my character teabagging ammo's when he's dead |
| 14:21.32 | semi-_ | not that i've ever even seen a real one, just christmas transporter thing on a human warrior |
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| 14:22.50 | kenlyric | arggg, too many choices! |
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| 14:23.41 | Punkie` | oh dear god |
| 14:23.43 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: haha |
| 14:23.44 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/fugly.jpg |
| 14:23.51 | Lysithea | dwarf stoneskin is sooo good for pvp |
| 14:23.53 | [Ammo] | I have one of my character teabagging you too |
| 14:24.07 | Punkie` | i have like, 10 of you Ammo :P |
| 14:24.12 | [Ammo] | oh noes |
| 14:24.24 | Funkeh` | O_o |
| 14:24.31 | Funkeh` | wierd conversation |
| 14:24.35 | boobies4u | rofl |
| 14:24.37 | boobies4u | http://www.booncontrol.com/fugly.jpg <--- lol |
| 14:24.40 | [Ammo] | it's a tradition |
| 14:24.44 | [Ammo] | when someone dies |
| 14:24.44 | boobies4u | more female dwarfs plz |
| 14:24.47 | [Ammo] | everyone rushes to their corpse |
| 14:24.49 | [Ammo] | before they can release |
| 14:24.52 | [Ammo] | and sits on their face |
| 14:24.54 | [Ammo] | teabagging them |
| 14:25.02 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 14:25.05 | Punkie` | teabag = the ultimate frag |
| 14:25.09 | [Ammo] | yar |
| 14:25.44 | Punkie` | but damn, that female dorf is fugly |
| 14:25.51 | Punkie` | i would never teabag her |
| 14:26.51 | Loki|muh | I think I do not really want to know what teabagging is, but I have there a picture in my mind... |
| 14:27.06 | AKX | Loki|muh, it's probably exactly what you think it is. |
| 14:27.07 | kenlyric | man, starting cold on a pvp server is going to suck. Wonder if I know anyone irl on a pvp server. |
| 14:27.31 | kenlyric | lol, I keep forgetting half the people here are EU. That's why I can't find kazzak server :) |
| 14:27.37 | harldephin | you never know people that play on a pvp server |
| 14:27.47 | AKX | Or rather, Loki|muh, it's exactly what you probably think it is. |
| 14:27.57 | boobies4u | kenlyric |
| 14:28.02 | boobies4u | roll ally on tarren mill |
| 14:28.08 | [Ammo] | it has to do with scrotums and mouts |
| 14:28.10 | [Ammo] | +h |
| 14:28.15 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/teabag.jpg |
| 14:28.17 | boobies4u | scrotums and mouth is great |
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| 14:28.30 | [Ammo] | oh noes |
| 14:28.32 | [Ammo] | he teabagged me! |
| 14:28.41 | Loki|muh | thanks ;) |
| 14:28.52 | kenlyric | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging |
| 14:29.10 | Punkie` | i think my picture is worth more than words :> |
| 14:29.15 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:29.17 | Funkeh` | faked |
| 14:29.20 | Funkeh` | ammo no1 damage done? |
| 14:29.23 | Funkeh` | no wai |
| 14:29.33 | Punkie` | ammo cheats with his aoe bloodbolt |
| 14:29.41 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 14:29.47 | boobies4u | http://www.joshuabrantley.com/work/stuff/speedo.jpg |
| 14:29.48 | harldephin | the term of teabagging sucks |
| 14:29.49 | boobies4u | kinda like that |
| 14:30.09 | Funkeh` | aaww man |
| 14:30.10 | Funkeh` | cmon |
| 14:30.35 | boobies4u | its normal |
| 14:30.54 | Punkie` | rofl |
| 14:30.55 | harldephin | no, it's vomit |
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| 14:31.27 | kenlyric | that picture is not named correctly. |
| 14:31.32 | kenlyric | That's a bikini, not a speedo |
| 14:31.57 | kenlyric | i like the path of that picture.. /work/stuff/ |
| 14:32.05 | kenlyric | what kind of work do you do? |
| 14:32.12 | boobies4u | rofl |
| 14:32.16 | Loki|muh | hmmmmm thats not worksave... |
| 14:32.16 | Punkie` | is there a macro command for screenshot? |
| 14:32.18 | boobies4u | im a model |
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| 14:33.09 | *** join/#wowace windwolf (i=harl@dslb-084-063-106-176.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:33.10 | AKX | zenBot's my somewhat useful bot. |
| 14:33.21 | AKX | But let's prove it once and for all. |
| 14:33.22 | windwolf | model .. like hell |
| 14:33.23 | AKX | !ud teabagging |
| 14:33.27 | zenBot | teabagging: To have a man insert his scrotum into another person's mouth in the fashion of a teabag into a mug with an up/down (in/out) motion. /Man: Let's teabag! Your (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagging) |
| 14:33.33 | AKX | There you go. |
| 14:33.42 | mitch0 | btw, when I see ppl running around on a horse constantly spinning around and going in funny ways altogether, is that some sort of bot trying to get a target, or some borked/lagged client? |
| 14:33.57 | AKX | mitch0, they're probably just people having fun or lagging |
| 14:34.15 | mitch0 | oh well, I kill them anyway, just in case |
| 14:34.22 | mitch0 | in any event, it's easy honor :) |
| 14:34.29 | windwolf | mitch0: that's probably just someone trying to be funny |
| 14:35.03 | Bibi`ouF | bots don't have to spin around :p |
| 14:35.04 | Punkie` | mitch0: have you never held right mouse button and moved your mouse really fast left/right? :P |
| 14:35.05 | mitch0 | I think it's pretty hard to do it manually |
| 14:35.11 | Punkie` | its easy |
| 14:35.17 | Bibi`ouF | or maybe wow bots are retarded, don't know |
| 14:35.20 | mitch0 | I mean, constantly spinning, yet traveling in a given direction more or less |
| 14:35.40 | boobies4u | http://euroross.blogspot.com/Teabagging.jpg |
| 14:35.42 | boobies4u | hahahaha |
| 14:35.43 | windwolf | no, not hard |
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| 14:35.52 | boobies4u | i will never start wrestling |
| 14:36.10 | AKX | mitch0, set your mouse sensitivity to high and see :P |
| 14:36.34 | mitch0 | AKX: nah, some horde would take me for a bot and kill me :) |
| 14:36.35 | AKX | >.> |
| 14:36.50 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm still looking for Wii owners! Tell me! |
| 14:36.50 | Loki|muh | ive never saw a bot |
| 14:36.55 | windwolf | pvp sucks anyway |
| 14:37.04 | Punkie` | I have a Wii? :o |
| 14:37.04 | mitch0 | btw, is Gatzu of Bloodscalp EU here by any chance? :) |
| 14:37.37 | mitch0 | stupid corpse camping scum |
| 14:37.50 | haarm | .. |
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| 14:37.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Punkie`, orly? |
| 14:37.59 | AKX | Can one buy a Wii controller as a spare part? |
| 14:38.18 | Punkie` | yes, i do |
| 14:38.18 | mitch0 | was funny though, I went out for a smoke and they only started packing up when I got back after 7-8 mins... |
| 14:38.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, you can buy Wiimotes and Nunchucks separately |
| 14:38.24 | AKX | Hmm~ |
| 14:38.32 | AKX | And how much does an USB Bluetooth thingy cost? |
| 14:38.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Gimme Wii code! |
| 14:38.45 | Kirkburn|afk | AFK, you want to use it on a PC? |
| 14:38.49 | Kirkburn|afk | AKX, even |
| 14:38.54 | AKX | It'd be interesting |
| 14:38.55 | Punkie` | I'm not at home :( |
| 14:39.34 | Kirkburn|afk | argh :( |
| 14:40.10 | Kirkburn|afk | To anyone with a Wii, my code is 6685-6650-2343-4699 |
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| 14:41.09 | AKX | What code is that? |
| 14:41.18 | Kirkburn|afk | My Wii Code |
| 14:41.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Identifies me online, allows you to send msgs etc |
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| 14:42.11 | nevcairiel | we can just talk to you here. |
| 14:42.24 | JJSheets | lol |
| 14:42.35 | AKX | Ah, so Nintendo hasn't heard of "usernames"? |
| 14:42.50 | JJSheets | nope |
| 14:42.53 | JJSheets | numbers for all |
| 14:42.55 | Kirkburn|afk | No, it's the unique Wii console code |
| 14:42.58 | JJSheets | tattoo em on |
| 14:43.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Like a MAC address |
| 14:43.06 | JJSheets | bah |
| 14:43.10 | JJSheets | you ignore truth |
| 14:43.12 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 14:43.19 | JJSheets | you tattoo wii code on your forehead |
| 14:43.25 | Kirkburn|afk | nevcairiel, but you can't send me Miis can you :( |
| 14:43.25 | JJSheets | fro great justice |
| 14:43.30 | JJSheets | s/fro/for/ |
| 14:43.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Aww, I wanted a 'fro |
| 14:43.42 | JJSheets | lol |
| 14:43.52 | AKX | Kirkburn|afk, would you close the pool if you had one? |
| 14:43.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey, that's a point, you can't give a Wii a 'fro |
| 14:44.26 | Punkie` | you can't really make black people in wow either :P |
| 14:44.31 | AKX | Any /b/tards? No? |
| 14:44.45 | Kirkburn|afk | /s/ ftw |
| 14:44.57 | AKX | !ud Close the pool |
| 14:44.58 | zenBot | Close the pool: What sometimes closes the pool at Habbo Hotel. Proceeding, Steve Irwin's ghost comes in and screams, in order to warn the unaware Habbos, "CRIKEY!! P (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Close+the+pool) |
| 14:45.15 | Punkie` | It has AIDS yes we know |
| 14:45.18 | AKX | Yeah. |
| 14:45.34 | semi-_ | no you |
| 14:45.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Uhh |
| 14:46.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Apparently "/b/tard moar liek /b/awwsum kid amirite fokes" |
| 14:47.12 | Punkie` | i am the king of asia, therefore your arguement is invalid |
| 14:47.20 | AKX | Shoop da whoop. |
| 14:47.23 | Punkie` | and der be a mudkip here too |
| 14:47.28 | JJSheets | define /b/tard? |
| 14:47.32 | AKX | !ud /b/tard |
| 14:47.33 | zenBot | /b/tard: Someone who browses 4chan's /b/ imageboard. /"I am a true /b/tard." (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%2Fb%2Ftard) |
| 14:47.34 | semi-_ | someone who visits e/b/aumsworld. |
| 14:47.34 | kenlyric | punkie, my priest is pretty darn brown. |
| 14:47.45 | Punkie` | brown, but not black |
| 14:47.58 | JJSheets | who the fuck is 4chan? |
| 14:47.59 | JJSheets | lol |
| 14:48.00 | semi-_ | zenBot: shh |
| 14:48.33 | Punkie` | 4chan is the place that invents most of the internet things |
| 14:48.38 | AKX | The memes. |
| 14:48.48 | AKX | Hmm |
| 14:48.52 | AKX | !ud /b/ |
| 14:48.53 | zenBot | /b/: /b/ is the guy who tells the cripple ahead of him in line to hurry up. /b/ is first to get to the window to see the car accident outside. /b/ is the one who wrote yo (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%2Fb%2F) |
| 14:48.54 | Punkie` | yeah, but if i said meme's people never usually understand :P |
| 14:48.55 | JJSheets | right. k. ya'll have fun with that then |
| 14:49.05 | Punkie` | well you know the ascii dude on the wow forums |
| 14:49.06 | AKX | Basically, /b/ is Internet, condensed. |
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| 14:49.10 | Punkie` | hand in head? |
| 14:49.25 | Punkie` | that came from 4chan |
| 14:49.35 | Punkie` | so did "posting in a legendary thread!" |
| 14:49.48 | Punkie` | the pictures of cats etc |
| 14:49.57 | AKX | And DESU DESU DESU DESU ~ |
| 14:50.21 | Punkie` | yeah, desu floods too :P |
| 14:50.43 | JJSheets | k. you youngsters have fun, stay off my damn lawn, I'm gonna go kill a hippy or perhaps just program a bit. |
| 14:50.47 | *** join/#wowace Jens (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
| 14:51.37 | Punkie` | also, the spams of 'http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4616/3oic4fsngv53nxdzpxffy26bl7.jpg' on various HP forums too, was from 4chan :P |
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| 14:53.09 | kenlyric | lol, yes, all internet terms started on 4chan. |
| 14:53.16 | JJSheets | that's not the internet, it's an idiot. |
| 14:53.32 | Stephmw | that's not an idiot, it's the internet. |
| 14:53.37 | JJSheets | or maybe I'm just gettin old and don't get humorless humor. |
| 14:53.43 | JJSheets | :) |
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| 14:54.02 | kenlyric | or maybe you're old enough to remember many of these things existed before 4chan. |
| 14:54.17 | Stephmw | Remember, the IQ of a mob is lower than the lowest IQ of any of its members... the internet is a BIG mob... |
| 14:54.23 | JJSheets | how could they start on 4chan if they existed before then? |
| 14:54.24 | kenlyric | bonzai kitten! |
| 14:54.25 | JJSheets | PARADOX! |
| 14:54.32 | kenlyric | JJSheets: that would be the sarcasm. |
| 14:54.45 | Punkie` | zomg, divided by zero |
| 14:54.47 | JJSheets | well, I guess. you /b/tards have fun. |
| 14:55.42 | windwolf | moo |
| 14:55.45 | pastamancer | you'll stay away from 4chan if you know what's good for you |
| 14:55.51 | pastamancer | it's a terrible place |
| 14:56.00 | Punkie` | it's true |
| 14:56.27 | windwolf | :-/ |
| 14:56.29 | Kirkburn|afk | This is as a result of me saying I have a Wii? The internet works in straaange ways |
| 14:56.33 | Punkie` | the furry friday thing is disgusting |
| 14:56.53 | kenlyric | 4chan is the myspace of forums. |
| 14:57.10 | AKX | Except Myspace isn't fun. |
| 14:57.10 | kenlyric | it collects our stupidest in one place so they can be easily identified. |
| 14:57.18 | JJSheets | lol |
| 14:57.27 | kenlyric | and takes pictures of them to boot. |
| 14:57.29 | JJSheets | that's actually a nifty idea there. |
| 14:57.32 | Punkie` | nah, i remember 4chan doing a 'raid' on myspace |
| 14:57.45 | Punkie` | they somehow managed to get peoples usernames/passwords |
| 14:57.50 | kenlyric | 4chan does make cat pictures, so they aren't all bad. |
| 14:58.03 | Punkie` | and started changing peoples profiles to 'nigger nigggerson' and stuff like that |
| 14:58.24 | Funkeh` | later |
| 14:58.34 | kenlyric | hmmmm hunter or warlock, hunter or warlock. |
| 14:58.41 | JJSheets | both |
| 14:58.42 | Stephmw | hunter |
| 14:58.49 | [dRaCo] | huntlock |
| 14:58.59 | Stephmw | lockter |
| 14:59.02 | kenlyric | no, I already have 9 toons on my main server. I only want one on the pvp server, and I'm sticking to it! |
| 14:59.07 | Punkie` | warlock + felguard = hax :( |
| 14:59.14 | JJSheets | warlock then |
| 14:59.29 | kenlyric | I wish warlocks could enslave demons permanently. |
| 14:59.37 | JJSheets | hunter later, cause you know you can't have just one... |
| 14:59.46 | kenlyric | I like hunters because they have so many options for pets. |
| 14:59.54 | Stephmw | favourite runecloth farming place these days? |
| 15:00.01 | kenlyric | what's runecloth? :) |
| 15:00.14 | Stephmw | kenlyric: levelling up tailoring :) |
| 15:00.16 | pastamancer | scholo |
| 15:00.16 | kenlyric | levelling tailoring? |
| 15:00.42 | Stephmw | pastamancer: ewww, scholo as a solo mage will hurt |
| 15:00.51 | Stephmw | fire mage as well |
| 15:02.24 | pastamancer | it'll be exciting |
| 15:02.31 | pastamancer | you're 70, right? |
| 15:03.04 | Stephmw | 65 ;) |
| 15:03.31 | pastamancer | tyr's hand might not suck as much then |
| 15:03.44 | Stephmw | nah, tried that, those buggers hit _hard_ |
| 15:03.51 | Stephmw | tempted to go back to felwood |
| 15:04.51 | Stephmw | it's always fun to frustrate hunter farmers called 'Ffdgrtre' |
| 15:05.07 | pastamancer | how about the twilight guys in silithus? |
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| 15:05.29 | abyssichate | Gruul didn't get any minipatch/hotfix for US servers tonight/today did he? |
| 15:05.44 | Stephmw | pastamancer: bit out of the way, but yeah, could do |
| 15:14.50 | Barbanus | winterspring should work too |
| 15:17.29 | ZealotOnAStick | abyssichate: no minipatch for the client, that I know of. Hotfixes, by being server side . . . who knows? |
| 15:18.22 | ZealotOnAStick | We worked on Gruul last night, though, FINALLY some serious attempts, and still didn't have -quite- the raid makeup we'd like to have (short a mage and a lock and a paladin) and got him to 11%,, |
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| 15:18.45 | shieldb | nice |
| 15:18.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Our Shadow Priest kept getting blown up, though. :( |
| 15:19.07 | shieldb | our mages are still being retarded and popping blink near the end of gronn lord's grasp |
| 15:19.46 | shieldb | so everyone adjusts based on wherever people are then when no one can move anymore they jump near someone else >.> |
| 15:22.08 | CIA-18 | 03eternally777 * r30096 10SacredBuff/ (SacredBuff.lua UI.lua): |
| 15:22.09 | CIA-18 | SacredBuff: |
| 15:22.09 | CIA-18 | * Double check to make sure that the `spellRank' variable in function `SacredBuff:FindSpell()' is a numerical value. |
| 15:22.09 | CIA-18 | * No longer fires off a `Mode_Changed' event, now simply calls a single function. |
| 15:23.05 | CIA-18 | 03eternally777 * r30097 10SacredBuff/SacredBuff.toc: |
| 15:23.05 | CIA-18 | SacredBuff: |
| 15:23.06 | CIA-18 | * Version bump to 2.3.4 since I forgot to change it after the past two changes. |
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| 15:50.43 | Jens | So is Mendeleev going to use PT3 ever? |
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| 15:56.22 | Kemayo | Jens: There's a version in branches that does. |
| 15:56.31 | Jens | Ahh, cool. |
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| 16:23.29 | abbat_w | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 16:23.40 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 639 messages. Is idling for 1h 41m 29s, last said: 'we can just talk to you here.'. |
| 16:23.45 | abbat_w | ah |
| 16:23.47 | abbat_w | :-* |
| 16:23.50 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 16:23.54 | Kirkburn|afk | I was just about to say ... |
| 16:24.09 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, can i ask for smaaal feature in bt3? :) |
| 16:24.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, his last commment was to me, I must have scared him away |
| 16:24.40 | harl|WoW | or maybe not |
| 16:24.54 | abbat_w | switch for register button for AnyUp / AnyDown ;) |
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| 16:25.19 | abbat_w | default if AnyUp, but options to AnyDown will be nice ;) |
| 16:26.05 | Kirkburn|afk | What's that do/help with? |
| 16:26.42 | abbat_w | Not all ppl play with actions which executed on release button |
| 16:26.51 | CIA-18 | 03trh * r30098 10VanasKoS/modules/ (DefaultLists.lua Importer.lua Synchronizer.lua): VanasKoS: fixed some bugs with alternative character detection |
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| 16:26.55 | harl|WoW | exactly |
| 16:27.08 | abbat_w | Some of us need to execute action at press ;) |
| 16:27.17 | semi-_ | it also looks better visually. right now if you hold down a key it doesnt light up until you let go |
| 16:27.18 | harl|WoW | *nods* |
| 16:27.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Intriguing |
| 16:27.47 | harl|WoW | but it has to be optional. optional is good. |
| 16:27.49 | semi-_ | not that thats a huge point as you likely shouldnt be holding a key down, but both my friend and i noticed that so at least I'm not the only one to hold a key down at some point. |
| 16:27.57 | abbat_w | yep, optional |
| 16:28.17 | abbat_w | what about me, after each bt3 update i chage .lua for AnyUp -> AnyDown |
| 16:28.32 | harl|WoW | :) |
| 16:31.33 | knarf^ | semi-_ agreed |
| 16:32.27 | abbat_w | so, maybe nevcairiel make this for us ;) |
| 16:33.01 | abbat_w | ok, time to go to home |
| 16:33.06 | abbat_w | glook guys |
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| 16:45.52 | ilifin | any of ye know what might cause people to lose their tooltips outta nowhere? |
| 16:45.53 | Silviu- | Question ... to warlocks .. which u think is better 2% hit with dots or -5% thread on dots |
| 16:46.51 | Silviu- | about this build http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0riRfkVtboZxx0tr don`t know if to take that point from supression and add it to impr drain soul :) |
| 16:47.10 | semi-_ | i'd say it depends mostly on whats a bigger problem for you right now, threat or your hit rating |
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| 16:47.46 | semi-_ | for what its worth, http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Draka&n=disrupt click the "affliction" text to see my current spec used for raiding |
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| 16:48.40 | Silviu- | Well don`t know ... i was mostly 0/21/40 till now |
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| 16:48.48 | Silviu- | So on dot`s don`t know sure ... :P |
| 16:48.57 | cncfanatics | yo all :) |
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| 16:49.28 | Arrowmaster | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-talents.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Tokrim is my current spec |
| 16:49.33 | semi-_ | i've been okay on resists, but one bad resist can really hurt you at the wrong time |
| 16:49.41 | Arrowmaster | but ive been meaning to drop the point in suppression |
| 16:49.42 | cncfanatics | ~seen JJSheets |
| 16:50.10 | purl | jjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 50m 33s ago, saying: 'hunter later, cause you know you can't have just one...'. |
| 16:50.10 | semi-_ | like if you put CoS up before a banish and the first resists, you're raid now has 3 seconds of an unbanished mob |
| 16:50.23 | semi-_ | i wish i had fel concentration for soloing |
| 16:50.25 | Silviu- | Yes true .. |
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| 16:50.39 | semi-_ | but too many people would miss my "good healthstones" as everyone calls it when talking to our other lock |
| 16:50.44 | cncfanatics | damnit, did I miss JJSheets by an hour ? |
| 16:51.02 | Arrowmaster | fel con + imp drain soul = great soloing |
| 16:51.17 | Silviu- | Now i regret as hell that i choosed Mooncloth tyailor |
| 16:51.20 | Silviu- | tailor* |
| 16:51.42 | Silviu- | And to drop it .. and start all over .. don`t know |
| 16:51.47 | Silviu- | If it worth it |
| 16:52.01 | shieldb | Silviu-, welcome to blacksmithing two months ago? :) |
| 16:52.22 | Arrowmaster | i dont think you can change specs now by droping the profession |
| 16:52.39 | Silviu- | Well, i said i don`t need that pure shadow equip .. and i said .. let me make bags faster |
| 16:52.55 | semi-_ | honestly, it depends on how long you can wait |
| 16:53.10 | semi-_ | once you build your frozen shadowweave set, being shadow specced doesn't help you much at all |
| 16:53.21 | semi-_ | mooncloth bags will stay profitable a lot longer |
| 16:53.46 | NeoTron | So it turns out that when you have 2 tanks and 1 more DPS (rather than 3 tanks)... Illhoof is really really easy |
| 16:54.00 | shieldb | :) |
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| 16:54.05 | NeoTron | way easier than Aran and possibly easier than curator too |
| 16:54.10 | NeoTron | at least easier to grasp the fight |
| 16:54.13 | Silviu- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Littleone |
| 16:54.17 | Silviu- | My equip |
| 16:54.25 | Silviu- | But .. hmm .. i need more +shadow now |
| 16:54.30 | Silviu- | If i skill affli |
| 16:54.31 | NeoTron | we went in and took him down on the second real try (didn't reset correct after the first wipe which made the pull nearly impossible to get right) |
| 16:54.51 | NeoTron | I have heard... that there is a way to change specialization |
| 16:54.51 | CIA-18 | 03benjib007 * r30099 10CraftList/ (CraftList.lua CraftList.toc): |
| 16:54.51 | CIA-18 | CraftList: |
| 16:54.51 | CIA-18 | - correcting bugs in scan |
| 16:54.51 | CIA-18 | - autoscan enable |
| 16:54.51 | CIA-18 | - one database per character |
| 16:54.52 | CIA-18 | - all crafts stored in the database (cooking, leatherworking, ...) |
| 16:54.56 | NeoTron | without dropping |
| 16:54.58 | shieldb | NeoTron, I really enjoy when netherspite doesn't reset properly and people don't notice |
| 16:55.01 | NeoTron | some quest... somewhere. |
| 16:55.21 | NeoTron | tonight we start two karazhan raids |
| 16:55.24 | NeoTron | we'll see how that goes |
| 16:55.31 | NeoTron | will probably put us back in progression somewhat |
| 16:55.50 | shieldb | NeoTron, make sure both groups can run it completely and people have fillers for when folks can't make it one evening or another |
| 16:56.04 | NeoTron | both groups are pretty equal |
| 16:56.19 | NeoTron | and we have, for example, 2 melee DPSers (or more maybe) on standby |
| 16:56.36 | NeoTron | we've found some fights like Aran do better with more melee dps |
| 16:56.47 | NeoTron | so whomever gets there first gets first dibs |
| 16:56.48 | shieldb | right, but everyone needs to be able to do the same schedule - if one group is short healers one night and all the other healers are saved to the other group.. |
| 16:57.09 | NeoTron | we're a bit short on healers but not much we can do. both groups do have the same schedule though |
| 16:57.38 | shieldb | well, the groups can run different schedules from each other so long as everyone within the groups can make the same schedule ;) |
| 16:57.41 | NeoTron | 9pm-1am PST 4 days a week is the schedule for this guild. everyone in it knows it |
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| 16:58.16 | shieldb | we've got two 'normal time' groups (6pm-10/11) and one insomniac group (10pm - 3am) and that's been going pretty well for us |
| 16:58.19 | NeoTron | we could, but the raid leaders in each group can do the 9-1 schedule the guild was built for :) |
| 16:58.30 | NeoTron | it might change for sure |
| 16:58.58 | NeoTron | but, the guild suffered a post-BC drama-filled split |
| 16:59.07 | NeoTron | and to be able to do two runs is quite an accomplishment |
| 16:59.22 | NeoTron | managed to recruit 2 more priests with a third one possible |
| 16:59.46 | NeoTron | and we have 2 shammies, not bad for a non-hardcore alliance guild |
| 17:00.47 | Arrowmaster | we actually found one fight in karazhan that a lolenchane shaman helps with |
| 17:01.01 | NeoTron | I love both enhance and resto shamans |
| 17:01.08 | NeoTron | haven't used a elem shaman so far |
| 17:01.22 | semi-_ | we booted our shaman, would be nice to have another for totems and heroism but what can you do |
| 17:01.53 | Arrowmaster | on curator our lolenhance shaman tanks the adds while we kill them |
| 17:02.00 | semi-_ | heroism is so great on burst dps fights |
| 17:02.22 | Arrowmaster | bloodlustpewpew |
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| 17:03.26 | shieldb | Silviu-, is there not much available in the way of new gear to replace t3 for warlocks at 70? |
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| 17:05.40 | Arrowmaster | im still using 3/8 t2 lol |
| 17:06.44 | semi-_ | heh after Before the Storm came out i just started pvping.. i still have full GM set in my bank |
| 17:06.55 | semi-_ | but those got replaced by quest reward blues/greens pretty quick. |
| 17:07.58 | Arrowmaster | the pvp set was perty bad imho since its got lot +dmg and high stam, which is the same as most TBC gear |
| 17:08.09 | Arrowmaster | s/lot/low/ |
| 17:08.19 | Silviu- | shieldb did not find till now .. i did not raid |
| 17:08.42 | semi-_ | i stocked up on it because i wanted to go overkill on stam to make soloing in BC eaier |
| 17:08.44 | NeoTron | TBC gear tends to have good stamina and +dmg |
| 17:08.45 | semi-_ | easier even |
| 17:08.47 | NeoTron | not either or |
| 17:09.02 | semi-_ | i even went for the stave instead of mageblade |
| 17:09.23 | NeoTron | I have 9280 HP unbuffed in my dps set |
| 17:09.44 | NeoTron | and 706 shadow dmg, 20.77% (destruction) crit |
| 17:09.55 | NeoTron | and my gear really isn't that great. still working on it |
| 17:09.59 | NeoTron | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai |
| 17:10.04 | shieldb | NeoTron, one of the warlocks on our server has ~10k unbuffed or something nuts |
| 17:10.18 | NeoTron | I've seen a warlock profile where he had 12.8k unbuffed |
| 17:10.25 | NeoTron | but he was going all out with blue +stamian gems etc |
| 17:10.39 | NeoTron | If I pvpd more I might go fo rmore stamina |
| 17:10.44 | [Ammo] | I lack some gear and I have 690 shadowdamage 9250 or something unbuffed |
| 17:10.51 | NeoTron | now I rather have "enough" and go for +dmg/crit etc |
| 17:10.56 | [Ammo] | always using my imp puts me at 10215 hp |
| 17:10.56 | Arrowmaster | 7800hp with imp here, 1011 +shadow dmg, ~10% crit, affliction spec |
| 17:11.17 | NeoTron | 706 is demo specced without fel armor and without pet |
| 17:11.26 | NeoTron | I'm working on my tailoring, got it up to 357 now |
| 17:11.27 | [Ammo] | I'm without fel armor and pet too |
| 17:11.32 | shieldb | yeah here we go: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&n=Agnos |
| 17:11.40 | NeoTron | so once I get the frozen shadow weave stuff etc.. :) |
| 17:11.40 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 17:11.40 | semi-_ | thats what i hate about pvp right now |
| 17:11.47 | semi-_ | you really have to dedicate yourself to it |
| 17:11.50 | [Ammo] | it's about how you use your gear :) |
| 17:11.59 | semi-_ | if you pvp without pvp gear + a pvp set you're at a huge disadvantage |
| 17:12.01 | NeoTron | yep |
| 17:12.10 | Arrowmaster | it so sad, im still wearing a ring of spell power |
| 17:12.11 | semi-_ | its not like before where i could raid with pvp gear or pvp with a pve spec |
| 17:12.16 | NeoTron | but when was PvP not something you had to dedicate yourself for? |
| 17:13.08 | NeoTron | as a raider I don't have much hope of obtaining anything massive from pvp |
| 17:13.19 | NeoTron | although Ido wish I could get 10 games in a wek to work towards one of the weapons |
| 17:15.03 | semi-_ | it's probably just cause i'm a lock, but i had no problem pvping in my pve spec before the expansion |
| 17:15.33 | semi-_ | now with lvl41 skills that are needed for pvp but worthless for raiding, and resilliance gear and all that.. |
| 17:15.48 | NeoTron | Cyrez: isn't 71 frost damage quite significant at level 26? |
| 17:16.12 | NeoTron | which 41pter is useless for raiding and necessary for pvp? I'm curious... |
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| 17:16.27 | Cyrez | Is it? |
| 17:16.36 | NeoTron | I think so |
| 17:16.58 | NeoTron | should make a significant difference to your spells |
| 17:17.05 | Cyrez | Oh, it does. |
| 17:17.25 | Cyrez | I was thinking of significant in terms of twinkage. |
| 17:17.33 | Cyrez | It didn't cost me that much at all. |
| 17:17.48 | Cyrez | Kept finding cheep stuff on the AH. |
| 17:17.58 | NeoTron | twinkage I don't know |
| 17:18.03 | Cyrez | Even got some shoulders ready to go for me in two levels. |
| 17:18.04 | NeoTron | I figure as you're levelling |
| 17:18.14 | NeoTron | is it a 29 twink or a levelling char? |
| 17:18.35 | semi-_ | NeoTron: well, not necessary, but all 3 lock 41ptrs are good in pvp (unstable affliction, felguard, and shadowfury especially) |
| 17:18.36 | Cyrez | Oh, yeah, I can take out mobs four levels higher. |
| 17:18.38 | bindi | if you mouseover a chatframe it has a different alpha value... how can you remove it? so it doesn't change color when you hover over it |
| 17:19.03 | Cyrez | My nastiest crits are 270+ |
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| 17:19.09 | shieldb | bindi, go into interface options and set 'lock chat frames' ? |
| 17:19.15 | shieldb | or lock that individual frame |
| 17:19.23 | NeoTron | UA is better than ruin for PvE, Felguard is useful at least in karazhan and amazing in 5-mans. Shadowfury can be useful but I don't see it as necessary |
| 17:19.29 | semi-_ | i'd gkick someone instantly if they seriously had a felguard out in the middle of a raid, shadowfury is marginally useful for a few aoe pulls but mages take care of that better, and UA just doesnt get time to be casted enough to be worth it compared to shadow bolt spam |
| 17:19.33 | Cyrez | Currently I'm purely Frost spec. |
| 17:19.37 | NeoTron | semi-_: then you're a noob |
| 17:19.46 | bindi | ha it was locked, but the "lock chat frames" helped, thanks shieldb |
| 17:19.49 | Cyrez | Gonna get some Arcane later for the mana regen while casting. |
| 17:19.56 | NeoTron | felguard is a dot that can emergency off-tank and requires little maintenance |
| 17:20.10 | NeoTron | would you also kick a hunter with a pet out? |
| 17:20.15 | semi-_ | assuming you don't fight something that can cleave you |
| 17:20.26 | semi-_ | i was full demo before tbc |
| 17:20.29 | Arrowmaster | off-tank? in kara? lol |
| 17:20.34 | NeoTron | he has 50% avoidance and it's up to the lock to know when and when not to use it |
| 17:20.43 | NeoTron | karazhan is quite felguard friendly in many cases |
| 17:20.52 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: I use my pets ALL THE TIME to OF |
| 17:20.58 | semi-_ | without draining a healers mana, he couldnt even make it through zg snakeboss |
| 17:21.04 | Cyrez | Emergency Off-Tank = "Oh, @#$%! Somebody help!" |
| 17:21.07 | bindi | myeh NeoTron but too bad for you i saw more stupid people with a felguard then without :< |
| 17:21.28 | NeoTron | Cyrez: indeed. I wouldn't ever use the felguard for ACTUAL tanking. I'd use the vw for that |
| 17:21.45 | NeoTron | but the felguard has saved those healers the mana rain (intercept alone can do that) |
| 17:22.07 | semi-_ | im sure theres some uses for him, but not nearly as useful as an imp out for blood pact or even if you're demo specced, a succubus out for more dmg |
| 17:22.08 | NeoTron | and when I sit 1 on damage meters without the felguard and significantly higher with... yeah he's not useless |
| 17:22.18 | NeoTron | imp is useful for boss fights |
| 17:22.24 | NeoTron | it's not useful for trash 95% of the time |
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| 17:22.36 | NeoTron | and the felguard does more damage than succubus |
| 17:22.53 | Fisker- | I'm beginning to love putty |
| 17:23.04 | NeoTron | because you 1) can't use succubus with ANYTHING that aoe's, 2) succubs has less HP and armor and dies a lot more, 3) she does less dmg than the felguard |
| 17:23.16 | semi-_ | i just meant for the buff |
| 17:23.19 | semi-_ | i'd keep her invis. |
| 17:23.28 | NeoTron | a felguard in a raid does like 200 dps |
| 17:23.40 | NeoTron | 5% more dmg doesn't make up for that loss of dPS |
| 17:23.42 | Fisker- | developers, developers, developers. |
| 17:24.09 | NeoTron | but I use differentp ets in differen tencounters. maybe you've run into stupid warlocks (omgcleavein shackled targets ftw) |
| 17:24.18 | semi-_ | i've just never seen anybody able to keep a felguard alive without seriously needing healer help or taking time off their own dps to heal |
| 17:24.31 | NeoTron | but heavy aff/demo, heavy demo/aff, heavy demo/dest, heavy aff/dest, heavy dest/whatever all work in raids |
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| 17:24.56 | semi-_ | they work, just not as efficiently as sm/ruin in my experience |
| 17:24.58 | [Ammo] | I'm 45 affliction 16 demo |
| 17:25.02 | NeoTron | semi-_: perhaps they have tried to use their felguard on romulo? on maiden of virtue? |
| 17:25.04 | semi-_ | where efficiently factors in mana efficiency as well |
| 17:25.24 | NeoTron | mana efficiency is almost no concern |
| 17:25.25 | [Ammo] | I use my drain life as a nuke |
| 17:25.32 | [Ammo] | specially with a second warlock in the raid |
| 17:26.01 | NeoTron | useful for boss fights yes |
| 17:26.01 | semi-_ | it is in a fight like R&J where things can last a while and the less you need healed from lifetaps the better you are |
| 17:26.08 | NeoTron | heh |
| 17:26.09 | semi-_ | thats actually the othe reason i keep my imp out all the time, darkpact. |
| 17:26.18 | [Ammo] | dark pact is cool indeed |
| 17:26.20 | semi-_ | i made it through all of R&J just darkpacting |
| 17:26.21 | NeoTron | I find life tap to be perfecly fine there. it's rather predictable as ranged DPS |
| 17:26.33 | NeoTron | when I was affliction, yues I used the imp |
| 17:26.36 | [Ammo] | with the second set bonus of obblivion |
| 17:26.39 | NeoTron | I'm 0/40/21 atm |
| 17:26.41 | semi-_ | it is, but its still one more heal i'd rather my healers save for people with the debuff on them |
| 17:26.41 | [Ammo] | I mean the first |
| 17:26.42 | [Ammo] | 2 set bonus |
| 17:26.53 | NeoTron | my healers don't heal me at all for R&J |
| 17:27.21 | NeoTron | I guess my point is that having a pet that can dps just stand next to you is a waste of DPS |
| 17:27.36 | NeoTron | even my imp can dps, typically around 125 DPS (again, nto affliction so I might as well use the mana) |
| 17:27.51 | semi-_ | heh, wtb pre-nerf imp dps |
| 17:27.55 | semi-_ | i never got around to trying it out |
| 17:28.01 | NeoTron | on non-aoe type encounters I use the succubus. on threat sensitive encounters I use the imp (50% threat reduction ftw) |
| 17:28.02 | kenlyric | neotron, especially a pet you don't have to feed. |
| 17:28.06 | NeoTron | I did |
| 17:28.08 | NeoTron | it was a bit insane |
| 17:28.09 | semi-_ | but supposidly it was out dpsing mages |
| 17:28.13 | kenlyric | I hate hunters who won't bring their pets out. |
| 17:28.16 | NeoTron | he pulled out 450 dps with my rather crappy gear |
| 17:28.27 | NeoTron | kenlyric: I don't get it |
| 17:28.29 | kenlyric | it's like they don't understand that their pet is included as part of the balance of their damage. |
| 17:28.32 | kenlyric | same for warlocks. |
| 17:28.35 | NeoTron | in some places pets are usless |
| 17:28.36 | NeoTron | yes |
| 17:28.40 | NeoTron | but often they are useful |
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| 17:28.51 | NeoTron | like illhoof. who would NOT keep a pet on him and chains at all times? |
| 17:29.00 | NeoTron | now on shade of aran, anything but an imp will die pretty fast |
| 17:29.24 | semi-_ | did they fix illhoof since they originally over-buffed him? |
| 17:29.25 | Cyrez | Pets make a good target dummy in the worst case scenario, even if you only get an extra three seconds of mana regen out of it. |
| 17:29.52 | shieldb | semi-_, when did they overbuff him? |
| 17:29.57 | NeoTron | semi-_: overbuffed how? I never tried him "pre-buff" but he's so easy now I imagine we was like a l65 5-man boss before ... |
| 17:29.58 | shieldb | he went from pushover to reasonable challenge |
| 17:30.10 | NeoTron | Cyrez: yeah |
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| 17:30.21 | shieldb | NeoTron, he was a lot of fun pre-buff because he was so easy |
| 17:30.35 | semi-_ | i never tried him after the patch, everyone said he wasnt worth it considering how much harder he was and how little good loot he drops |
| 17:30.35 | NeoTron | another free loot event I gather |
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| 17:30.51 | NeoTron | semi-_: with a real group it took us two real tries to take him down |
| 17:30.54 | shieldb | our group downed him on our first attempt ever. just a brief 'here's sort of how it goes don't bother buffing we'll give it a go" sort of deal |
| 17:30.58 | NeoTron | just need good dps |
| 17:31.06 | shieldb | for the pre-buff version |
| 17:31.12 | NeoTron | this for the post-buff |
| 17:31.17 | shieldb | yeah definately |
| 17:31.18 | Cyrez | And they're better than an actual target dummy since they hit back. ^^ |
| 17:31.28 | NeoTron | basically if your dps can killt he chains fast it's not too hard |
| 17:31.37 | shieldb | you can find a video of a group doing the pre-buff version with no aoe ;) |
| 17:31.47 | NeoTron | just leaving the imps? |
| 17:33.28 | shieldb | yep |
| 17:33.29 | NeoTron | heh |
| 17:33.29 | NeoTron | man what did the imps do? scratch backs? |
| 17:33.29 | shieldb | they were the same |
| 17:33.29 | shieldb | but illhoof had like 1/4th the hp |
| 17:33.29 | NeoTron | I took about 35% of the damage in that fight |
| 17:33.29 | NeoTron | lol ok |
| 17:33.29 | shieldb | and barely healed on demon chains if that ran long |
| 17:33.29 | NeoTron | clearly he was underpowered then |
| 17:33.30 | shieldb | I'm wondering what the next fundamental change to maiden of virtue is going to be. she changes every two weeks |
| 17:33.33 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 17:33.33 | NeoTron | can't wait |
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| 17:33.35 | NeoTron | ah |
| 17:33.38 | NeoTron | I know |
| 17:33.43 | kenlyric | all bosses change constantly. they just aren't always as noticible. |
| 17:33.50 | kenlyric | random changes to bosses makes raiding FUN! |
| 17:34.02 | NeoTron | "Doubled the radius of Maiden of Virtue's consecration to avoid range exploit" |
| 17:34.14 | shieldb | "I heard she gets deep breath next patch" |
| 17:34.17 | NeoTron | you know, the exploit of standing really close to her |
| 17:34.38 | kenlyric | well, there was one patch where she did :) |
| 17:34.53 | kenlyric | like, continuously until you were all dead |
| 17:35.06 | NeoTron | kenlyric: not sure I agree. it's frustrating to learn an encounter and then have it change so drastically that your previous (apparently "exploitative" strat) doesn't work at all |
| 17:35.19 | pastamancer | I've seen some chain holy-fire action from maiden |
| 17:35.20 | kenlyric | man, I must suck at sarcasm. |
| 17:35.24 | NeoTron | heh |
| 17:35.25 | pastamancer | that was exciting |
| 17:35.35 | NeoTron | I got hit like 3 times in less than 10 seconds |
| 17:35.46 | kenlyric | I remember one patch where vael learned to cleave through his ass. |
| 17:35.48 | NeoTron | I think only 2 holy fire though and one holy wrath |
| 17:36.21 | NeoTron | wasn't there some fun issues where all drakes (including firemaw) started to ignore line of sight for the aoe? |
| 17:36.33 | NeoTron | I know there was something with them but don't remember what |
| 17:36.50 | NeoTron | or that they reflected spells or something |
| 17:37.04 | shieldb | I think you're thinking just flamegor started ignoring LoS for his damage aura, but that was intended |
| 17:37.24 | shieldb | if there were changes to firemaw's aura or something I hadn't heard of that happening ;) |
| 17:37.36 | Arrowmaster | i think the question there is "lootgor has a damage aura?" |
| 17:37.37 | NeoTron | I know flamegor was intended |
| 17:37.52 | shieldb | that was a long time ago, though |
| 17:37.58 | NeoTron | It probbly was something where all spells cast on firemaw were reflected back. always. |
| 17:38.02 | shieldb | back when hunters had some degree of usefulness in a raid :P |
| 17:38.26 | NeoTron | if more hunters used pets they would be more useful today :P |
| 17:38.27 | Arrowmaster | our hunter has raid utility! |
| 17:38.36 | semi-_ | now now.. some fights still need NR aura. |
| 17:38.38 | NeoTron | and outside of DPS they are very usefl |
| 17:38.48 | Arrowmaster | aspect of the pact for wipes and he does our dkp |
| 17:38.54 | shieldb | bahaha |
| 17:38.57 | NeoTron | like our hunter doesn't top any dps meters on moroes.. bui play a very essential role |
| 17:39.16 | kenlyric | our hunters don't show up. |
| 17:39.20 | kenlyric | just like our druids |
| 17:40.01 | Fisker- | I love this company |
| 17:40.55 | shieldb | I just haven't found any encounters where I've ever thought "man, this would be easier if there was a hunter in the raid" vs. any other class for that one slot |
| 17:41.22 | NeoTron | shieldb: moroes, although a third priest would be even better... |
| 17:41.37 | shieldb | NeoTron, doing what on moroes? Kiting? |
| 17:41.37 | NeoTron | and misdirection is really useful |
| 17:41.46 | NeoTron | trap/kite |
| 17:41.50 | NeoTron | basically take caer of an add |
| 17:42.01 | NeoTron | not necessary, but nice |
| 17:42.15 | semi-_ | i like misdirection |
| 17:42.17 | kenlyric | misidrection is kinda fun on the ushers. |
| 17:42.17 | NeoTron | also frost trap by priests to trap any escaped shackles |
| 17:42.24 | semi-_ | less downtime before you can all join in and dps |
| 17:42.38 | semi-_ | snake traps help sometimes too, like juliette or whatever they named her. |
| 17:42.41 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 17:42.49 | NeoTron | Julianne I think it is |
| 17:42.51 | semi-_ | not to mention pulling and feigning bad pulls |
| 17:43.00 | semi-_ | although i havnt seen that done in a long time..not sure why |
| 17:43.02 | NeoTron | hunters have a use. top DPS is not that use |
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| 17:43.11 | semi-_ | i guess its cause now we have a pally tank that just throws shields at everybody. |
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| 17:43.13 | NeoTron | we're pretty good at using hunters for pulls |
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| 17:43.32 | semi-_ | our hunter dps isnt bad |
| 17:43.44 | semi-_ | in raids locks/mages out dps him, but its not a worthless amount of dps |
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| 17:44.05 | shieldb | I'd rather bring another mage instead of a hunter to be honest |
| 17:44.16 | NeoTron | I suspect our hunters are somewhat slackign at times |
| 17:44.17 | semi-_ | in 5mans he'll pass me all the time because im never really trying to maximize dps in 5mans so much as just get through them safely while talking on aim half the time. yes im one o those annoying people. |
| 17:44.38 | NeoTron | the DPS is not a wasted slot but doesn't come anywhere enar me |
| 17:44.51 | NeoTron | of course we have another lock who does like half my DPS consistently |
| 17:45.26 | NeoTron | heavy destruction, with 5 in cataclysm, only 4 in imp shadow bolt and no pts in imp immolate/conflag |
| 17:45.37 | NeoTron | just seems like a really bad build to me |
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| 17:45.39 | semi-_ | i never understood people who live off damage meters in 5mans.. do your part and just keep progressing. i'd rather drop my dps if it means fearlocking half of a shatterd halls pull |
| 17:45.50 | semi-_ | than letting our healers die because im too busy trying to perfecto trinket |
| 17:45.57 | NeoTron | yep |
| 17:46.07 | NeoTron | I've tried out builds for fun to see how they perform |
| 17:46.09 | semi-_ | thats my problem i have with that hunter really |
| 17:46.13 | NeoTron | but I'd rather live than do 20% more DPS |
| 17:46.16 | semi-_ | i'll see him dpsing with nothing trapped |
| 17:46.27 | semi-_ | and his pet on his dps target instead of offtanking |
| 17:46.53 | NeoTron | so nice with a pally tank |
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| 17:47.02 | NeoTron | rarely do you need to OT/CC something(non-heroic mind you) |
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| 17:47.48 | NeoTron | although I do get compliments on doing all a warlock possibly can at the same time :P |
| 17:48.07 | NeoTron | I mean I keep an eye on mobs running for the healer and deathcoil them and if necessary pull aggro to me |
| 17:48.46 | NeoTron | also though it's very frustrating to run a 5-man with the pet tanking with healers that don't heal pets |
| 17:49.21 | NeoTron | but even so it's better to OT/me healing pet than the mob wailing on the healer |
| 17:49.21 | Loki|muh | i copy that |
| 17:49.46 | chutwig | i love undead instances on my paladin for that reason and hate them on my warlock |
| 17:49.52 | chutwig | the death coil it does nothing |
| 17:50.34 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 17:50.39 | NeoTron | except an emergency 1k heal |
| 17:50.43 | NeoTron | saved me more than onc e:) |
| 17:50.56 | chutwig | yeah |
| 17:51.18 | chutwig | it's nice that warlocks can do about 6k of emergency healing in a few seconds if the healers are tied up |
| 17:51.27 | chutwig | but after that you're spent |
| 17:51.38 | NeoTron | 6k? |
| 17:51.50 | chutwig | death coil, healthstone, pot |
| 17:51.53 | NeoTron | ah right |
| 17:51.59 | NeoTron | and another 3-4k if you have the VW out |
| 17:52.08 | chutwig | but nobody ever does in instances |
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| 17:52.17 | NeoTron | oh I do |
| 17:52.21 | NeoTron | when it's called for |
| 17:52.30 | chutwig | only time i ever used it was in MC |
| 17:52.34 | chutwig | now i'd just use the felguard |
| 17:52.35 | NeoTron | again in the "rather live and do less dps than die" |
| 17:52.46 | NeoTron | I'd use the felguard mainly if I had it |
| 17:52.49 | chutwig | i keep the imp out for salv reduction |
| 17:52.49 | NeoTron | but I have ruin instead |
| 17:52.59 | NeoTron | I just use all my pets |
| 17:53.09 | NeoTron | except Idon't use the felhunter that much anymore |
| 17:53.14 | chutwig | occasionally bring out ze felguard if it's necessary to get every last bit of dps out |
| 17:53.39 | NeoTron | the felgaurd is amazing on mobs that fear (like the demons in shadow lab) |
| 17:53.52 | NeoTron | because of his 50% aoe resist he often remains unfeared and aggrod |
| 17:54.04 | chutwig | intercept can also be useful |
| 17:54.13 | NeoTron | sure |
| 17:54.24 | NeoTron | or to sum it up. warlock is a lot of fun |
| 17:54.25 | NeoTron | :) |
| 17:54.35 | chutwig | yeah |
| 17:54.46 | chutwig | tonight's technically an off night but i suspect we'll probably be going into karazhan |
| 17:54.47 | NeoTron | hunter pets seem to generate more aggro than my 3/3 imp voidwalker though |
| 17:55.01 | NeoTron | so their pets certainly tank better |
| 17:55.07 | NeoTron | but .. they have less variation |
| 17:55.19 | chutwig | growl works more like a conventional taunt |
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| 17:55.25 | chutwig | anguish and torment just add extra threat |
| 17:56.25 | kenlyric | chutwig: need priests? |
| 17:56.39 | chutwig | kenlyric: don't think so |
| 17:56.41 | kenlyric | hmmm... how can you scrap groups together on the first day of the week? |
| 17:56.42 | chutwig | we just picked up another shadow priest |
| 17:56.48 | kenlyric | oh, you're probably EU |
| 17:56.51 | chutwig | nope |
| 17:56.52 | chutwig | US |
| 17:57.22 | kergoth | i wish i hadnt moved from suramar to arathor. arathor is dead. empty. finding a pug (my guild is still small, cant do all guild 5 mans for the 60-70 chars) is like pulling teeth |
| 17:58.45 | kenlyric | moving servers never seemed like a good idea. It was hard enough finding a community on one :) |
| 17:58.52 | NeoTron | chutwig: is it? hmm |
| 17:59.06 | chutwig | NeoTron: well, after i said that i looked up growl on wowhead |
| 17:59.12 | chutwig | says it adds 665 threat |
| 17:59.15 | NeoTron | ok |
| 17:59.18 | chutwig | trying to find the voidwalker one but i don't remember its name |
| 17:59.19 | NeoTron | so should be the same |
| 17:59.25 | kergoth | well, i was getting tired of the lag and disconnects and crap.. course after i left that stuff stopped happening on the old realm.. |
| 17:59.33 | NeoTron | might be because it was a big |
| 17:59.34 | chutwig | torment rank 7 adds 632 threat |
| 17:59.45 | NeoTron | the initial charge is quite poerful for burst threat |
| 17:59.51 | chutwig | yeah |
| 17:59.59 | chutwig | voidwalkers are a little shoddy at building initial aggro |
| 18:00.15 | NeoTron | I have found that the aoe taunt is pretty powerful though |
| 18:00.28 | NeoTron | too bad the CD is so long |
| 18:00.34 | chutwig | suffering adds 885 threat |
| 18:00.34 | kenlyric | Screech FTW! |
| 18:00.46 | NeoTron | kenlyric: yep hunter pets are better |
| 18:00.55 | NeoTron | chutwig: and add 30% to those numbers with imp VW |
| 18:01.06 | kergoth | i need to level my hunter.. got him to 27 so far, using joana's guide |
| 18:01.19 | chutwig | so 821 and 1150, respectively |
| 18:02.22 | kenlyric | I use joana's guide too... but I don't level that fast :) |
| 18:02.32 | deltron | mine's still stuck at 37 |
| 18:02.42 | chutwig | why take imp VW, thouhg |
| 18:02.42 | deltron | I'm only playing my main and playing vanguard lately :P |
| 18:03.04 | kenlyric | because there aren't a lot of good points in the early demo treee. |
| 18:03.05 | chutwig | apart from the improved sacrifice |
| 18:03.28 | kergoth | deltron: how is vanguard? |
| 18:03.32 | kenlyric | I can spend 7 points easily in the first two tiers, but those last 3 are trouble |
| 18:03.32 | deltron | affliction seems like a good spec to level |
| 18:03.49 | deltron | kergoth: it's not perfect, but it's actually pretty damn fun, we created a guild last night |
| 18:03.53 | chutwig | SM/ruin was the classic levelling spec in the old days |
| 18:03.55 | chutwig | these days, i dunno |
| 18:03.59 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:04.34 | deltron | my lock is only level 4 :P |
| 18:04.34 | kergoth | is vanguard scriptable? :) |
| 18:04.35 | chutwig | warlocks are like the opposite of paladins |
| 18:04.39 | chutwig | they're very meh at the beginning |
| 18:04.44 | kergoth | interface wise, i mean |
| 18:04.47 | kenlyric | yeah, I've done both and affliction is better. |
| 18:04.48 | deltron | kergoth: I think so actually |
| 18:04.53 | chutwig | but begin to come into their own when paladins start to lose DPS ability |
| 18:04.58 | kenlyric | though demo provides more variability. |
| 18:05.12 | chutwig | i like demonology for its survivability and the flexibility that FD offers |
| 18:05.24 | chutwig | because it can be a lifesaver to be able to switch pets during a fight that quickly |
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| 18:05.38 | deltron | kergoth: http://www.vgsohinterface.com/ |
| 18:05.43 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 18:06.00 | chutwig | i've survived a lot of fights against rogues because i was able to summon a voidwalker and sacrifice it in time |
| 18:06.03 | kergoth | nifty |
| 18:06.28 | deltron | kergoth: vanguard got a LOT of things right, waypoints built into the default interface, waypoints in the actual quests |
| 18:06.40 | kergoth | wow |
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| 18:06.56 | Funkeh` | Oo |
| 18:07.06 | kergoth | haha, http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1819 |
| 18:07.19 | kergoth | vim script.. "Puts a smiley on your status line. Nose will rotate on <Left> and <Right> Will frown on errors and warnings" |
| 18:07.29 | kergoth | people have too much time on their hands |
| 18:07.38 | deltron | lol |
| 18:08.23 | chutwig | because vim really needs to turn into emacs |
| 18:08.31 | deltron | eww emacs |
| 18:08.34 | chutwig | just the other day, i was thinking |
| 18:08.42 | chutwig | "i wish my text editor had a kernel larger than my operating system's" |
| 18:08.43 | kergoth | mine practically is, i have enough damn scripts in my config |
| 18:08.50 | kergoth | start time is too long, i need to cut back |
| 18:08.51 | chutwig | and lo and behold my prayers were answered |
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| 18:10.07 | kenlyric | emacs *is* an operating system, noob |
| 18:10.16 | kenlyric | it operates my <3 |
| 18:11.54 | deltron | oh yeah |
| 18:12.06 | deltron | vanguard has normal hits, crits, and epic hits |
| 18:12.20 | deltron | epic hits are 400% of your crit damage |
| 18:12.37 | chutwig | that sounds balanced |
| 18:12.39 | deltron | so at level 4 I hit a mob for 400 dmg |
| 18:12.40 | deltron | lol |
| 18:12.51 | shieldb | but does it visually animate you poking them in the eye? |
| 18:12.54 | NeoTron | chutwig: I'm using my warlock pet a lot for OTing |
| 18:12.57 | kergoth | makes sense, even a noob can get lucky occasionally |
| 18:12.59 | kergoth | hahah |
| 18:13.00 | NeoTron | chutwig: that's why |
| 18:13.09 | kergoth | the "kick the humanoid int he nuts" epic animation would rock |
| 18:13.11 | chutwig | NeoTron: you must run with some pretty awful pugs |
| 18:13.16 | Funkeh` | guys |
| 18:13.30 | NeoTron | chutwig: SM/ruin for levelling? lol |
| 18:13.44 | Funkeh` | is there any way to query a variable from your config file ingame to find out what its set to |
| 18:13.44 | chutwig | it was the popular thing to do in the olden days |
| 18:13.54 | NeoTron | the worst choice for levelling is destruction |
| 18:14.00 | Funkeh` | for example |
| 18:14.09 | Funkeh` | find out what your combatlog range for an event is set to |
| 18:14.10 | chutwig | gather up some mobs, dot them all up, start draintanking |
| 18:14.20 | kergoth | Funkeh`: see the cvar functions on wowwiki |
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| 18:14.31 | Funkeh` | givf link i slack |
| 18:14.32 | kergoth | or read hte oTweaks code, no doubt |
| 18:14.38 | kergoth | i slack more. |
| 18:14.39 | chutwig | it's all about the fel concentration |
| 18:14.41 | Funkeh` | pfft |
| 18:14.59 | NeoTron | I wish there was a way to make wim behave like emacs |
| 18:15.03 | NeoTron | it'd be so much more useful then |
| 18:15.05 | chutwig | ...why |
| 18:15.29 | NeoTron | chutwig: I use him in Karazhan |
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| 18:16.05 | chutwig | emacs is an unholy plague that was rained down upon this land as punishment for the transgressions of two-letter unix commands |
| 18:16.27 | NeoTron | vi is to emacs like feces is to ice cream |
| 18:16.34 | NeoTron | I'd rather have ice cream than feces thank you |
| 18:16.57 | chutwig | vim is lilliputian and emacs is brobdingnagian |
| 18:17.17 | NeoTron | so vim is useful for 1 line hacks |
| 18:17.23 | deltron | lol look what you started kergoth |
| 18:17.24 | NeoTron | emacs is useful as a development environment |
| 18:17.31 | kergoth | whee, flame wars ftw |
| 18:17.36 | chutwig | emacs is a vile and unspeakable evil |
| 18:17.50 | NeoTron | feh |
| 18:17.54 | Kemayo | Yes, important rule for IRC: never, EVER, no matter what, mention an editor preference. |
| 18:17.57 | kergoth | with the right scripts vim is an excellent development environment, with programmable completion, typeover function argument completion, etc |
| 18:17.57 | NeoTron | you just can'e handle the commands |
| 18:18.14 | deltron | scite > * :D |
| 18:18.20 | chutwig | if you're having trouble with emacs commands vim is generally NOT the direction to move towards |
| 18:18.36 | NeoTron | anyhow, I digress |
| 18:18.41 | chutwig | anyway, if you spin around three times and say emacs' name, i hear the ghosts of text editors past will appear and rip your face |
| 18:19.06 | NeoTron | chutwig: cool because with vi one time is enough and you don't even have to spin |
| 18:19.09 | Kemayo | Fun game in vi: type your name in, and see what happens. :D |
| 18:19.32 | kenlyric | if you think emacs is just a text editor, you don't really know emacs. |
| 18:19.49 | kenlyric | it's the alpha and omega |
| 18:20.34 | pastamancer | emacs keeps me warm at night |
| 18:20.50 | NeoTron | kenlyric: it's hard for people using "just a text editor" to realize emacs is so much more ;-) |
| 18:21.04 | chutwig | maybe i want my text editor to be a text editor |
| 18:21.15 | NeoTron | then ed is for you! |
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| 18:21.27 | chutwig | emacs is like the katamari damacy version of a text editor |
| 18:21.36 | kergoth | Found potentially inconsistent indentation in this buffer; generated from these conflicting settings |
| 18:21.36 | kergoth | : |
| 18:21.36 | kergoth | - 2 spaces (22 of 115 lines) |
| 18:21.36 | kergoth | - 1 spaces (2 of 115 lines) |
| 18:21.38 | kergoth | - 3 spaces (16 of 115 lines) |
| 18:21.38 | kergoth | - 4 spaces (10 of 115 lines) |
| 18:21.41 | kergoth | jesus |
| 18:22.48 | chutwig | where? |
| 18:23.02 | kergoth | just some vim script |
| 18:23.04 | kenlyric | I like how gentoo went with the worst of all words and uses nano by default. |
| 18:23.05 | NeoTron | people that use emacs do not have inconsisent indentation |
| 18:23.15 | kergoth | it saddens me when people cant use consistent indentation in their code |
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| 18:23.39 | chutwig | nano is a wonderful editor if you keep all your lines shorter than 80 characters |
| 18:24.01 | NeoTron | chutwig: you have some weird tastes in editors |
| 18:24.03 | Barbanus | kergoth, ahahaahaaha .. and then things like python force you to use indentation .. its like they are trying to make bad programmers good programmers .. but it wont work |
| 18:24.14 | chutwig | NeoTron: what? i use vim and that's it |
| 18:24.19 | pastamancer | all it takes is M-< C-space M-> M-x indent-region ! |
| 18:24.28 | NeoTron | you sai dnano is "wonderful" |
| 18:24.38 | NeoTron | first time I have heard that said |
| 18:24.41 | chutwig | did you bother to read any of the words past that or did your brain just shut down right there |
| 18:24.44 | kenlyric | my first CS course, the emacs on our servers was set to turn tab into two spaces. |
| 18:25.14 | kenlyric | I still find myself randomly indenting with two spaces. |
| 18:25.15 | Barbanus | kenlyric, as long as its consistent .. |
| 18:25.26 | NeoTron | chutwig: you still said it was wonderful. that's enough. the "shorter than 80" is not a valid disclamer ;-) |
| 18:25.45 | Barbanus | nano is not a code editor |
| 18:25.46 | NeoTron | tab set to 2 is evil |
| 18:25.48 | Barbanus | never meant to be. |
| 18:25.55 | kenlyric | nano isn't even a text editor. |
| 18:26.00 | NeoTron | Barbanus: it's not really useful for non-code either |
| 18:26.05 | Barbanus | its a simple editor, mainly used to edit config's. |
| 18:26.07 | kenlyric | it fucking breaks wrapped lines. Not even notepad does that. |
| 18:26.07 | chutwig | now |
| 18:26.16 | chutwig | another potentially contentious issue |
| 18:26.24 | Barbanus | uhhhh .. ever heard of "nano -w" ? |
| 18:26.26 | chutwig | languages where whitespace is syntactically significant: yay or nay |
| 18:26.44 | kergoth | nano is quite nice for quick edits for new linux users who dont know any better. thats about it |
| 18:26.49 | kenlyric | Barbanus: bah!!!! extra letter ftl. |
| 18:26.58 | NeoTron | Barbanus: a flag to make it work right makes it prone to errors |
| 18:27.00 | Barbanus | then add an alias :P |
| 18:27.03 | kenlyric | kergoth, which isn't exactly the market gentoo goes after :) |
| 18:27.04 | deltron | pfft |
| 18:27.07 | deltron | joe is all you need |
| 18:27.07 | kenlyric | LIES! |
| 18:27.19 | kenlyric | I edit with magnets. |
| 18:27.21 | NeoTron | basically having a default editor that, by default, doesn't do the right thing is not good |
| 18:27.44 | deltron | pico :P |
| 18:27.53 | NeoTron | if -w was default/always on, it wouldn't be so bad |
| 18:28.04 | kenlyric | It's like windows having a firewall and turning it off by default. |
| 18:28.04 | kenlyric | oh, wait, that happened. |
| 18:28.11 | Ominous | cncfanatics: ping |
| 18:28.22 | NeoTron | kenlyric: but then it warns you about it all the time |
| 18:28.42 | kenlyric | it does now. |
| 18:28.52 | chutwig | don't forget that the windows firewall conflicts with another firewall from another microsoft product |
| 18:28.53 | kenlyric | XP gold it just sat there, dead. |
| 18:29.05 | chutwig | and it will inform you of such quite persistently |
| 18:29.10 | kenlyric | chutwig, which is ok for the 5% of people who actually buy another firewall :) |
| 18:29.36 | chutwig | kenlyric: i'm talking about the windows defender firewall, which as i recall would cause vista to generate error messages that the default firewall was inactive |
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| 18:30.23 | Gnarfoz | <kenlyric> I edit with magnets. <-- that sounds gentoo-ish |
| 18:30.39 | chutwig | and every command ends with -funroll-loops |
| 18:30.51 | kenlyric | Gnarfox.. it's a play on "I program in binary" |
| 18:30.53 | Gnarfoz | that page is down, last I checked :< |
| 18:30.59 | Gnarfoz | I noticed |
| 18:31.00 | chutwig | alas |
| 18:31.02 | cncfanatics | Ominous, pong |
| 18:31.52 | Gnarfoz | why-o-why does the last episode ever of sg-1 have to air today :< |
| 18:32.00 | deltron | really? |
| 18:32.02 | Ominous | cncfanatics: can u check my script to see if there is a problem as on every bar except my bar which changes for shapeshifting the action id on every bitton is 1 |
| 18:32.20 | cncfanatics | sure, show up |
| 18:32.45 | Ominous | http://ace.pastey.net/8277 |
| 18:33.05 | chutwig | 2:30 |
| 18:33.10 | chutwig | i want to go home and get drunk |
| 18:33.22 | Saint-N | ALIAS 'edit'='/usr/bin/pico -w" |
| 18:33.38 | kenlyric | because all shows must end. |
| 18:33.43 | Gnarfoz | noooo |
| 18:33.50 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: are you crazy? theer's half a season left |
| 18:33.53 | Saint-N | i use nano now though |
| 18:33.55 | Barbanus | Saint-N, I actually have pico aliased to pico -w :P |
| 18:33.55 | kenlyric | except american idol, for some reason. |
| 18:33.56 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: there's not :< |
| 18:33.58 | chutwig | kill shows while they're good |
| 18:33.59 | Saint-N | cuz it's gooder ;P |
| 18:34.00 | NeoTron | there is |
| 18:34.01 | Gnarfoz | it's s10e20 |
| 18:34.02 | chutwig | don't let them go on like the simpsons |
| 18:34.07 | Gnarfoz | airing today in the UK :) |
| 18:34.12 | NeoTron | oh the UK |
| 18:34.14 | Gnarfoz | (like the rest of that half last season) |
| 18:34.14 | Saint-N | simpsons is great |
| 18:34.16 | NeoTron | the US has a different schedule |
| 18:34.19 | Gnarfoz | I know |
| 18:34.22 | NeoTron | we haven't started 10.5 yet |
| 18:34.23 | Saint-N | showtime pisses me off though |
| 18:34.27 | Saint-N | as does hbo |
| 18:34.28 | kenlyric | I dunno... simpsons has been funny against the last couple seasons. |
| 18:34.37 | NeoTron | at least samantha is moving over to SG:atlantis |
| 18:34.38 | chutwig | gnarfoz please record the top gear special this friday and encode it for me |
| 18:34.39 | Saint-N | Huff, Deadwood and Dead Like Me all canceled for no good reason |
| 18:34.39 | kenlyric | like family guy... it suddenly got funny the last two weeks. Ooops |
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| 18:34.45 | Saint-N | ditto for FireFly |
| 18:34.53 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: huh? I'm in Germany ^^ |
| 18:34.54 | kenlyric | firefly was cancelled for good reason. |
| 18:34.55 | Saint-N | family guy wasnt funny past season 2 |
| 18:35.00 | NeoTron | and there will be 2 SG1 movies |
| 18:35.00 | kenlyric | i.e., nobody could find it. |
| 18:35.02 | Gnarfoz | but I can recommend: eztvefnet.org :< |
| 18:35.03 | Barbanus | Firefly was awesome |
| 18:35.05 | NeoTron | and probably a new stargate series |
| 18:35.07 | cncfanatics | Ominous, you don't do SetDefaults(); or LoadSettings(); this the action attribute gets the default value, which is 1 |
| 18:35.08 | knarf^ | was Firefly cancled ? |
| 18:35.11 | NeoTron | so.. all hope is not lost |
| 18:35.11 | knarf^ | Firefly pwned :< |
| 18:35.12 | NeoTron | knarf^: yes |
| 18:35.13 | Saint-N | they're just trying to see how far they can push the cencors |
| 18:35.17 | chutwig | firefly was cancelled after like 12 episodes |
| 18:35.19 | NeoTron | knarf^: 1/2 a season |
| 18:35.19 | Barbanus | gogo heroes!! |
| 18:35.22 | Saint-N | yeah firefly got ganked |
| 18:35.28 | cncfanatics | either set action manualy like on stance bars, or use those, Ominous |
| 18:35.31 | kenlyric | Saint-N: family guy was probably the funniest it's ever been two weeks. I had to hold my sides from laughing. |
| 18:35.36 | Ominous | cncfanatics: but its fine on first bar |
| 18:35.38 | Barbanus | Heroes is the best show on TV right now, IMO |
| 18:35.39 | Saint-N | though rumor has it that there are a few more movies coming out |
| 18:35.48 | chutwig | Gnarfoz: luegner! |
| 18:35.49 | kenlyric | heroes is the next twin peaks. |
| 18:35.50 | cncfanatics | ofc, u set action ids for those ;) |
| 18:35.54 | kenlyric | oh wait, lost is the next twin peaks. |
| 18:35.57 | Saint-N | kenlyric: there are funny moments but not the none stop humor of the first 2 |
| 18:35.57 | kenlyric | heroes is the next lost. |
| 18:35.59 | cncfanatics | i+85, etc |
| 18:36.01 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: nowai? |
| 18:36.04 | NeoTron | man it doesn't stat till April here |
| 18:36.06 | kenlyric | Saint-N: two weeks ago. Trust me. |
| 18:36.08 | Ominous | button:SetStanceMap("","","normal","action", i)? |
| 18:36.13 | Saint-N | i still watch it |
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| 18:36.20 | Saint-N | but i dont find it as funny |
| 18:36.23 | kenlyric | then you missed that one :) |
| 18:36.27 | NeoTron | I have yet to watch Heroes |
| 18:36.33 | Saint-N | and adult swim is pissing me off to no extent |
| 18:36.40 | shieldb | Saint-N, I'd be surprised if they came out with more firefly movies seeing as they killed off a few of the main characters in the one |
| 18:36.40 | chutwig | Gnarfoz: hatte gedacht dass du im UK warst |
| 18:36.53 | kenlyric | there will be no more firefly movies. |
| 18:36.54 | chutwig | joss whedon does like to shake it up with his creations |
| 18:36.57 | Barbanus | NeoTron, its good. I highly recommend it when it comes out there. |
| 18:36.59 | Saint-N | saul is alright but doesnt belong on adult swim |
| 18:37.03 | cncfanatics | button:SetStanceMap("","","normal","action", i) is the same, logic wise as setting an actionid directly, Ominous, though its done differently |
| 18:37.04 | kenlyric | You don't get to make a scifi sequel to a flop. |
| 18:37.13 | Barbanus | NeoTron, did you read comics as a kid? |
| 18:37.14 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: nah, I just know where those eeeevil evil dudes who distribute those veeeery evil tv show torrents capture the show |
| 18:37.14 | chutwig | it didn't really flop |
| 18:37.19 | Saint-N | but that tim and eric show,like tom goes to the mayer needs to be destroyed and never shown again |
| 18:37.22 | sbu | uhm |
| 18:37.22 | Barbanus | NeoTron, like superman, xmen, all of that stuff? |
| 18:37.27 | kergoth | serenity was awesome, i wish it was more popular |
| 18:37.28 | kenlyric | it flopped in the eys of the studio. |
| 18:37.43 | sbu | [Ammo]: there? :p |
| 18:37.50 | kenlyric | I hear that wonderwoman is hold now. |
| 18:37.52 | sbu | or vhaarr ;) |
| 18:37.52 | [Ammo] | never |
| 18:37.54 | sbu | kk ;o |
| 18:37.57 | Saint-N | i loved serentiy and firefly for moreena bacca |
| 18:37.57 | kenlyric | Joss needs to escape the movies and make more TV! |
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| 18:38.01 | Ominous | cncfanatics: i call that on every bar though |
| 18:38.09 | chutwig | Gnarfoz: meh, ich werd's bei youtube finden |
| 18:38.09 | NeoTron | Barbanus: Not much of super hero comics no |
| 18:38.10 | kergoth | the writing in firefly was great |
| 18:38.15 | NeoTron | Barbanus: other comics yes |
| 18:38.17 | kergoth | wrt the dialog, anyway |
| 18:38.21 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 18:38.22 | chutwig | bevor sie es loeschen |
| 18:38.26 | kenlyric | it's Joss Whedon. You can't really go wrong with joss whedon dialogue. |
| 18:38.27 | sbu | uhm - is it possible to auto-focus (optional setting) bigwigs 'targets'? (those who get marked, e.g. illhoof sacrificed) |
| 18:38.29 | Saint-N | did you see slither btw? |
| 18:38.35 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: if you can live with youtube quality? ^^ I go for 1280x720 hdtv caps :D |
| 18:38.40 | chutwig | god my german is so rusty i can feel the gears grinding in my head |
| 18:38.48 | [Ammo] | sbu: if you make a module anything is possible |
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| 18:38.54 | cncfanatics | Ominous, won't suffice :) |
| 18:39.02 | Ominous | so what do i need to call? |
| 18:39.09 | chutwig | Gnarfoz: ist nicht wunderbar aber ist vielvielviel besser als die alternativ |
| 18:39.09 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: except for the 'im UK' it was all correct :) |
| 18:39.10 | cncfanatics | Ominous, for more info, u shld ask JJSheets, he coded the mapping yesterday, didn't have time to read it fully yet |
| 18:39.11 | Saint-N | ken are you kenmayo? |
| 18:39.12 | Barbanus | NeoTron, the best way for me to explain Heroes, its xmen with a whole new story, completely diferent characters, and 10x better .. lol |
| 18:39.18 | chutwig | Gnarfoz: what should i have said |
| 18:39.22 | sbu | [Ammo]: technically... :p |
| 18:39.33 | cncfanatics | Ominous, the easyest way is just call SetDefaults(); and LoadSettings(); before anything else |
| 18:39.40 | semi-_ | Heroes is interesting the way they tell such an overlapping story |
| 18:39.46 | Gnarfoz | chuckg: if you wanted to keep the abbreviation: "in UK", more colloquial: "in England" :) |
| 18:39.50 | chutwig | i endeavour to improve my knowledge of ze cherman languach |
| 18:39.50 | semi-_ | or rather, so many sub parts of a story at once that all intertwine |
| 18:39.52 | Barbanus | semi-_, yea .. thats why i like it. |
| 18:39.53 | Ominous | but then you cant change what the buttons show |
| 18:39.54 | Saint-N | i need 2 things changed 1 is in questfu the opther is in tablet lib |
| 18:40.00 | chutwig | poor chuckg |
| 18:40.02 | Ominous | like actionids and keybindings |
| 18:40.04 | Gnarfoz | ph33r ze german ^^ |
| 18:40.04 | chutwig | always getting messages intended for me |
| 18:40.11 | Saint-N | tabletlib needs the ability to set maxheight and width per addon |
| 18:40.12 | chutwig | ze cherman |
| 18:40.13 | chutwig | please |
| 18:40.15 | NeoTron | River kicking ass is definitely a Serenity highlight |
| 18:40.19 | kenlyric | I just hope they have actual plans, not the train wreck of derailment that is Lost and Battlestar Galactica. |
| 18:40.20 | Barbanus | semi-_, and they dont write it in a flashback way .. (I $&*$#ING HATE FLASHBACKS@#$$#) |
| 18:40.22 | Saint-N | so the mouse scrollie works |
| 18:40.25 | [Ammo] | sbu: technically yeah, but when we detect combat, we're in combat so can nolonger focus on stuff without keypress |
| 18:40.33 | [Ammo] | sbu: so you'd need to do it beforehand |
| 18:40.35 | NeoTron | Barbanus: I have considered downloading it |
| 18:40.36 | kenlyric | River kicking ass in Serenity made me miss that when I watched firefly. |
| 18:40.37 | Saint-N | and questfu needs some easy way to change the god aweful colouring |
| 18:40.53 | NeoTron | she only does minor ass kicking in firefly for sure |
| 18:40.55 | [Ammo] | sbu: that said, you're better off creating a small addon that uses babble-boss and a list of bosses for instances |
| 18:41.03 | chutwig | Gnarfoz: jedenfalls ist die qualitaet ziemlich beschissen, aber das ist doch besser als die alternativ |
| 18:41.09 | kenlyric | all I have to say is... more kaylie. |
| 18:41.17 | Barbanus | firefly, she was working up to major ass kicking |
| 18:41.22 | Saint-N | hehe i remember kaylie from watching disney channel all the time |
| 18:41.22 | Barbanus | they cancelled it before she could |
| 18:41.27 | chutwig | naemlich dass ich top gear ueberhaupt nicht sehe |
| 18:41.54 | chutwig | und ein leben ohne top gear ist ein leben ohne wert! |
| 18:42.00 | Saint-N | oh and there are a few cartoons you guys HAVE to see |
| 18:42.04 | Barbanus | ... |
| 18:42.07 | chutwig | i think something in my brain snapped on that last sentence |
| 18:42.27 | NeoTron | Barbanus: indeed |
| 18:42.30 | Saint-N | Dave the Barbarian and Invader Zim to name a few |
| 18:42.33 | Saint-N | err couple |
| 18:42.39 | NeoTron | Serenity was probably 1-2 seasons of firefly, or more, compressed to a movie |
| 18:43.09 | NeoTron | firefly was much liek Stargate - mainly free-standing episodes with background developments |
| 18:43.12 | kenlyric | with dual-wielding River |
| 18:43.21 | Saint-N | was reading the other night about futurama , appeaarntly it started off as a 4 movie deal with fox, so they're taking the movies breaking them up into episode chunks and airring them |
| 18:43.31 | chutwig | do you think river had improved dual wield specced |
| 18:43.44 | NeoTron | she didn't seem to miss much so I'm sure she did. heh |
| 18:43.44 | Saint-N | river was a classic dancer ;P |
| 18:43.52 | kenlyric | stargate never had the kind of planned backdrop whedon shows have. |
| 18:44.07 | Saint-N | ohophohoh i watched The Protector the other night |
| 18:44.12 | NeoTron | kenlyric: initially no, but it has been developed a lot imho |
| 18:44.13 | kenlyric | it's more like "oh crap, another season" |
| 18:44.13 | Saint-N | the thai martial arts movie |
| 18:44.24 | Saint-N | and dear god that little man scares me |
| 18:44.28 | NeoTron | it wasn't preplanned to have huge amounts of continuity |
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| 18:44.46 | NeoTron | and I disagree. SG1 is the best :P |
| 18:44.54 | Saint-N | one scene he's being chased by a motorcycle and he runs at a plate glass window takes 3 steps up the window and does a flip |
| 18:45.00 | NeoTron | but yes, firefly was better |
| 18:45.07 | NeoTron | except it didn't last through stupidity :( |
| 18:45.15 | kenlyric | This is whedon writing... nobody else does it like him 'I knew it! Well, not 'knew it' in the sense of having the slightest idea, but I knew there was something I didn't know.' |
| 18:45.17 | chutwig | hooray fox |
| 18:45.39 | NeoTron | And yes, I am a huge fan of Buffy and Angel too |
| 18:45.45 | Saint-N | angel sucked |
| 18:45.47 | NeoTron | and those shows being cancelled is equally sucky |
| 18:45.55 | Saint-N | buffy was awesome ONLY for liz dushku ;P |
| 18:45.55 | kenlyric | you suck! |
| 18:45.59 | kenlyric | your mom sucks! |
| 18:46.00 | NeoTron | nah didn't suck but wasn't as good as buffy |
| 18:46.08 | Saint-N | mmmmm liz |
| 18:46.16 | NeoTron | Saint-N: clearly not a fan ;-) |
| 18:46.20 | kenlyric | it was less melodrama than buffy... Then conner showed up :( |
| 18:46.21 | Saint-N | i got to stalk her when she was in nyc for a off broadway thying |
| 18:46.26 | Saint-N | nope |
| 18:46.38 | Saint-N | i like his writting style but a lot of buffy and angel grated on me |
| 18:46.43 | kenlyric | also, joss started working on firefly :) |
| 18:47.11 | NeoTron | kenlyric: I didn't really like the whole conner-thing |
| 18:47.13 | Saint-N | and whats even wierder is that i cant even remember what kristy swanson looks like |
| 18:47.18 | kenlyric | I still can't watch firefly without seeing maggot-face jasmine... :) |
| 18:47.34 | Saint-N | maggotface jasmine? |
| 18:47.58 | kenlyric | one of the many firefly people that joss threw into angel and buffy after firefly was cancelled :) |
| 18:48.09 | kenlyric | She was a god, and at one point she had a face covered in maggots :) |
| 18:48.16 | kenlyric | I'll stop using :) every sentence now. |
| 18:48.17 | NeoTron | Gina Torres |
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| 18:48.29 | deltron | kenlyric: nowai :) |
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| 18:48.31 | Saint-N | that short chick that tried to seduce the crew and steal the ship? |
| 18:48.37 | evl | 1 standin dota.remake16 |
| 18:48.39 | NeoTron | Zoe |
| 18:48.43 | evl | oops :P |
| 18:48.44 | NeoTron | in firefly |
| 18:48.50 | deltron | aaaaaaa spoilers |
| 18:48.51 | Saint-N | oh |
| 18:48.54 | deltron | i haven't seen it yet :( |
| 18:49.01 | deltron | also 300 rules |
| 18:49.04 | Saint-N | deltron: talking about the series ;P |
| 18:49.09 | NeoTron | http://imdb.com/name/nm0868659/ |
| 18:49.13 | Saint-N | 300 looks pretty but appearantly its meh |
| 18:49.24 | Saint-N | grindhouse loks so horribly aweful it's gonna be great |
| 18:49.30 | Saint-N | like dusk to dawn great |
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| 18:50.09 | Saint-N | "what were they crazy?" "NO they were NOT crazy, crazy people don't explode when sunlight hits them, i don't care how crazy they are..they were vampires!" |
| 18:50.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:50.27 | NeoTron | Dusk to Dawn (first one) is like 2 movies in one. |
| 18:50.27 | NeoTron | heh |
| 18:50.39 | NeoTron | it's great indeed |
| 18:51.01 | Saint-N | do you wanna be a pussy or a mean muther fucking servant of god? i'm a mean "mmmrrpher" servant of god |
| 18:51.03 | NeoTron | I love this summary "While at the bar, a few unusual things happen. " |
| 18:51.09 | Saint-N | haha yeah |
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| 18:51.33 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.47 | sbu | [Ammo]: ah ok - so its not possible ;) i meant in combat... |
| 18:52.04 | deltron | dudes |
| 18:52.08 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.16 | Saint-N | speaking of bad movies chec k out these scene releases |
| 18:52.19 | deltron | if there were an academy award for decapitations, 300 would win it |
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| 18:52.35 | Saint-N | Bloodfeast |
| 18:52.39 | Saint-N | hands down |
| 18:52.52 | Saint-N | it's in the guiness book of records for the most fake blood ever used in a movie |
| 18:53.23 | Saint-N | Feast is pretty good too |
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| 18:53.34 | Saint-N | watched that the other night, has the indian chick from numbers in it |
| 18:53.42 | Saint-N | she's teh sectzy |
| 18:54.05 | deltron | 300 was a very faithful comic book adaptation |
| 18:54.15 | deltron | probably better than sin city |
| 18:54.22 | deltron | which was pretty damn good |
| 18:54.30 | Saint-N | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=019&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=290088289846&rd=1&rd=1 |
| 18:54.33 | Saint-N | holy christ |
| 18:54.47 | deltron | the guy that directed 300 is now on track to do the watchmen :D |
| 18:54.54 | Saint-N | oooooo |
| 18:55.04 | Saint-N | THAT is gonna be one of those movies he better not fuck up |
| 18:55.19 | deltron | yeah |
| 18:55.30 | deltron | I hope they can cast a good rorschach |
| 18:55.40 | deltron | ror = my favorite comic book hero |
| 18:56.28 | deltron | I had my doubts on 300, but was pleasantly surprised |
| 18:56.40 | Saint-N | did yous ee it in imax? |
| 18:56.43 | deltron | yap |
| 18:58.05 | deltron | 2nd part of sin city is filming now also :D |
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| 19:02.42 | Proph_ | anyone know if there is a mod that shows/displays a bosses attacks...like even autoattks?? |
| 19:03.14 | Proph_ | to time heals for gruul.. |
| 19:03.27 | knarf^ | Proph_ its called The eye |
| 19:03.28 | Cryect | ummm well the combatlog does |
| 19:03.42 | nevcairiel | relying on an addon like that, or even the combatlog, will most likely get the tank killed |
| 19:03.43 | knarf^ | just look at his swings :) |
| 19:03.46 | Ominous | cncfanatics: can you set the texture that the button uses manually now that you can set what the button does from code such as button:SetNormalMap("","","spell", "Stealth") |
| 19:04.09 | knarf^ | and make sure that you start you cast a little after the other healer |
| 19:04.10 | knarf^ | :) |
| 19:04.23 | cncfanatics | Ominous, ofc u can :) |
| 19:04.33 | Ominous | how :) |
| 19:04.40 | cncfanatics | one sec, lemme think :p |
| 19:04.51 | knarf^ | Does an addon like BottomScanner exist for the trade channel, to inform you of wts / wtb that could have your interest ? |
| 19:05.03 | cncfanatics | for spells, babble shld automaticly do its job and get the correct texture |
| 19:05.07 | cncfanatics | shld only be used for macros |
| 19:05.39 | kergoth | hmm, someone should do an addon to block any messages on the trade channel that don't include an itemlink |
| 19:05.40 | cncfanatics | if u rly want to overwrite it, use button.Settings.Texture or button.Texture (the later not being saved thru sessions, the first being) |
| 19:06.10 | Ominous | ok ty, the function i just did makes the button work but with no texture |
| 19:06.35 | CIA-18 | 03cncfanatics * r30100 10FlexBar2/ButtonController.lua: FlexBar2: button.Texture can now be used to choose a button texture as well as button.Settings.Texture |
| 19:06.40 | cncfanatics | Ominous, if it sets spells it rly shld be np |
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| 19:06.49 | cncfanatics | just made button.Texture available btw :p update ur fb |
| 19:06.58 | CIA-18 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r30101 10FuBar_CRDelayFu/ (CHANGELOG CRDelayFu.lua FuBar_CRDelayFu.toc lib/ lib/Ace2/): |
| 19:06.59 | CIA-18 | FuBar_CRDelayFu: |
| 19:06.59 | CIA-18 | - Switched from Metrognome to AceEvent ScheduleRepeatingEvent |
| 19:06.59 | CIA-18 | - Works now >8P |
| 19:07.35 | cncfanatics | Ominous, my code dsnt choose it automaticly for ur spells ? :( |
| 19:08.10 | Ominous | for the button that i set not using a button but button:SetNormalMap("","","spell", "Stealth") it didnt, |
| 19:08.37 | cncfanatics | hmmm, weird, it rly shld |
| 19:08.52 | cncfanatics | lemme check |
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| 19:13.05 | cncfanatics | hmmm, weird |
| 19:13.16 | cncfanatics | pcall(AceLibrary("Babble-Spell-2.2").GetSpellIcon, "stealth"); whats wrong with this code ? |
| 19:14.03 | Ominous | Stealth? |
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| 19:14.49 | cncfanatics | ok, found it out |
| 19:14.50 | cncfanatics | works now |
| 19:15.03 | cncfanatics | pcall(AceLibrary("Babble-Spell-2.2").GetSpellIcon, AceLibrary("Babble-Spell-2.2"),"stealth"); work |
| 19:15.10 | cncfanatics | works*, got to pass self explicitly |
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| 19:15.29 | cncfanatics | fixing it |
| 19:16.34 | CIA-18 | 03cncfanatics * r30102 10FlexBar2/ButtonController.lua: FlexBar2: FlexBar will now automaticly choose the fitting texture for buttons of the 'spell' type |
| 19:16.53 | cncfanatics | done, update :) |
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| 19:20.06 | sedatedChipmunk | flexbar2 a button mod (a la bartender, bongos) or a frame management mod (a la visor)? the original was a little of both |
| 19:20.37 | cncfanatics | sedatedChipmunk, mainly button mod, the original was rly a button mod too -.- |
| 19:20.49 | cncfanatics | what was a bit of both with the original one ? :p if I may ask |
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| 19:21.04 | sedatedChipmunk | i don't remember; it was a long friggin time ago =) |
| 19:21.15 | sedatedChipmunk | maybe it was the other way 'round |
| 19:21.29 | sedatedChipmunk | visor was a frame management that happened to be good for buttons, too |
| 19:21.33 | Cyrez | cncfanatics: Most of FlexBar2's svn:externals have dev URL's. |
| 19:22.17 | cncfanatics | sedatedChipmunk, indeed |
| 19:22.25 | Cyrez | In fact, all of them except uiQuery-1.0. |
| 19:22.35 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, is that bad ? :o |
| 19:22.38 | hyperChipmunk | does it sux? |
| 19:22.55 | Cyrez | I can't check it out since dev asks for a username/PW. |
| 19:22.56 | Ominous | want me to fix em cnf? |
| 19:23.40 | Cyrez | I'm not set up with LoD. >< |
| 19:23.54 | Cyrez | Too much clutter for my liking. |
| 19:24.46 | Celandro | anyone see my idea about a client side enchantlist/gemlist/etc gui? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5208.0 |
| 19:25.02 | nevcairiel | i dont use LoD because it breaks my svn updating :) |
| 19:25.15 | Ominous | just --ignore-externals? |
| 19:25.31 | nevcairiel | i use stand-alone libs yeah |
| 19:25.34 | nevcairiel | but no LoD BigWigs |
| 19:25.36 | nevcairiel | or Carto |
| 19:25.38 | Ominous | ah, |
| 19:26.00 | OverloadUT | It'd be nice if LoD could be achieved via subfolders of one mod |
| 19:26.04 | OverloadUT | Just for organization |
| 19:26.14 | nevcairiel | altho i guess i could extend my update script |
| 19:26.21 | nevcairiel | to unpack bigwigs and carto |
| 19:26.31 | Groll | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30090 o_O |
| 19:27.11 | nevcairiel | o_o |
| 19:27.18 | Fisker- | DEVELOPERS |
| 19:27.27 | hyperChipmunk | within 4 seconds lol |
| 19:27.34 | hyperChipmunk | weapon speed is 3.7 |
| 19:27.38 | cncfanatics | bah, I can't find back my externals |
| 19:27.41 | hyperChipmunk | that's cutting it awful close =) |
| 19:27.41 | cncfanatics | propget dsnt work -.- |
| 19:27.42 | nevcairiel | one hit |
| 19:27.44 | nevcairiel | still |
| 19:27.55 | nevcairiel | plus specials |
| 19:27.56 | nevcairiel | maybe |
| 19:27.59 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: nah just throw in an MS |
| 19:28.09 | Ominous | cncf: use propedit |
| 19:28.10 | hyperChipmunk | oh, i know |
| 19:28.12 | Ominous | and also s cutting it awful close =) |
| 19:28.13 | Ominous | [19:27] <cncfanatics> pr |
| 19:28.15 | Ominous | oops |
| 19:28.19 | hyperChipmunk | just thought that was pretty funny |
| 19:28.23 | nevcairiel | it says your next attack anyway |
| 19:28.29 | Fisker- | that's not cutting it close |
| 19:28.30 | Ominous | [2007/03/13 19:27:29-227-x1]: FlexBar2-30060\ButtonController.lua:104: attempt to index local 'BabbleSpell' (a function value) |
| 19:28.30 | nevcairiel | would not work for two hits |
| 19:28.34 | hyperChipmunk | yea, next within 4s |
| 19:28.38 | Fisker- | 3,6 seconds would be cutting it close |
| 19:28.39 | hyperChipmunk | oh, i know it didn't |
| 19:29.06 | hyperChipmunk | but you get any kind of net lag in there and you'll miss the window |
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| 19:29.34 | Fisker- | Autoattack works while lagged |
| 19:29.44 | Fisker- | They could just as well just make it "Next attack" |
| 19:29.46 | Fisker- | kinda like felstriker |
| 19:30.03 | hyperChipmunk | basically, it just makes the weapon effect less useful in pvp, which isn't really a bad thing |
| 19:30.04 | cncfanatics | Ominous, how does that work ? |
| 19:30.06 | cncfanatics | i'm a damn nub |
| 19:30.16 | cncfanatics | Ominous, ups |
| 19:30.19 | Ominous | it opens notepad and then you edit them |
| 19:30.22 | hyperChipmunk | though, as you said, MS or something would do the job |
| 19:30.28 | Ominous | ill change em if you want |
| 19:30.48 | CIA-18 | 03cncfanatics * r30103 10FlexBar2/ButtonController.lua: FlexBar2: Fixed a stupid typo |
| 19:31.00 | cncfanatics | edit em if u want to, please :) I'm an svn nub :p |
| 19:31.36 | hyperChipmunk | did you ever answer if flexbar2 sux or not? |
| 19:31.39 | hyperChipmunk | i need to know |
| 19:31.44 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 19:32.23 | cncfanatics | hyperChipMunk, define "dux" :) |
| 19:32.27 | cncfanatics | s/dux/sux/ |
| 19:33.02 | hyperChipmunk | is it totally useless and a waste of hard drive space? |
| 19:33.32 | cncfanatics | no it ain't |
| 19:33.39 | hyperChipmunk | nice |
| 19:33.42 | cncfanatics | if u cba to use it without GUI |
| 19:34.00 | hyperChipmunk | i prefer it that way; what's the /command? |
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| 19:34.28 | hyperChipmunk | or do i need to config with TinyPad? |
| 19:34.43 | cncfanatics | TinyPad or Omnibus will do fine |
| 19:34.50 | hyperChipmunk | beauty |
| 19:34.54 | cncfanatics | Ominous is working on a nice config script, dunno if its rdy yet |
| 19:35.08 | hyperChipmunk | no documentation, i bet, either, right? |
| 19:35.17 | Ominous | config script... by that if you mean bars which work for me then yes |
| 19:35.23 | cncfanatics | hyperChipmunk, damn right :p |
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| 19:35.34 | cncfanatics | Ominous, its a damn nice example for others to use :) |
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| 19:35.38 | Ominous | :) |
| 19:35.42 | hyperChipmunk | hehe Ominous |
| 19:35.46 | Ominous | i need to test the drid stuff |
| 19:36.11 | cncfanatics | Ominous, spell textures work now ? :p |
| 19:36.14 | cncfanatics | i'm damn curious about those :p |
| 19:36.32 | Ominous | ill reload ina sec |
| 19:36.36 | cncfanatics | thanks :) |
| 19:36.38 | cncfanatics | shld work now |
| 19:36.47 | Ominous | now in fact |
| 19:36.48 | CIA-18 | 03ominous * r30104 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua Libs/): FlexBar2: changed externals |
| 19:36.56 | Ominous | urm... why did core change |
| 19:37.11 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 19:37.15 | hyperChipmunk | wtg |
| 19:37.23 | Ominous | i haded changed core i didnt think, crap |
| 19:37.33 | cncfanatics | eh, lemme diff |
| 19:37.44 | hyperChipmunk | svn diff doesn't show any changes either |
| 19:37.46 | cncfanatics | no diffs |
| 19:37.56 | hyperChipmunk | just a touch probably |
| 19:40.05 | Ominous | cncf: it works |
| 19:40.09 | cncfanatics | Ominous, cheers :) |
| 19:40.40 | CIA-18 | 03darravis * r30105 10AceDruidBar/ (AceDruidBar.lua AceDruidBar.toc): |
| 19:40.40 | CIA-18 | AceDruidBar: |
| 19:40.40 | CIA-18 | - Updated TOC |
| 19:41.19 | Ominous | only half tho |
| 19:41.27 | Ominous | dosent chnage with icon or show cooldown |
| 19:41.47 | cncfanatics | what u mean ? |
| 19:42.11 | cncfanatics | cooldown, hmmm, indeed, I know about that one |
| 19:42.18 | cncfanatics | but what u mean with dsnt change icon ? |
| 19:42.33 | Ominous | normally when you stealth the icon changes |
| 19:42.42 | Industrial | cncfanatics: ! :D any news from the fb2 front? :X |
| 19:42.52 | Ominous | i suppose the green border shows it well enougbt |
| 19:43.07 | cncfanatics | Industrial, forum thread, and scroll up :p |
| 19:43.15 | Industrial | yessir |
| 19:43.17 | cncfanatics | I still dont get what u mean Ominous |
| 19:43.31 | Ominous | when you select a stance the icon for the stance changes |
| 19:43.46 | cncfanatics | :o, yea, need to trigger the icon update more often |
| 19:44.20 | Ominous | but when the icon is set with "spell" type it dosent, but when you use the normal drag spell to another action bar it does |
| 19:44.31 | [DiE]Celeb | ROFL... just killed gruul with 0 shatters. |
| 19:44.40 | [DiE]Celeb | nice bug. |
| 19:44.57 | cncfanatics | Ominous, I know, most of the stuff is written specificaly for when buttons are actionbuttons |
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| 19:45.03 | cncfanatics | need to make em for when they're spells & items too |
| 19:45.07 | cncfanatics | will work on that :) |
| 19:45.14 | nymbia | lol [DiE]Celeb |
| 19:45.19 | Ominous | oki ;) |
| 19:46.31 | Ominous | ps. if anyone wants to see my setup code for flexbar just ask :) |
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| 19:47.35 | cncfanatics | Ominous, would you mind posting it on the forum thread when its fully working ? :p |
| 19:47.56 | Ominous | oki |
| 19:48.07 | Industrial | cncfanatics: wheres the slashcommands? :p |
| 19:48.19 | cncfanatics | Industrial, in your mind |
| 19:48.19 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30106 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: |
| 19:48.19 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 19:48.19 | CIA-18 | - Added __call field as syntactic sugar for :GetSetTable(), ie AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0")("Misc.Minipet") == AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0"):GetSetTable("Misc.Minipet") |
| 19:48.20 | Industrial | cncfanatics: or docs, didnt see a wiki page |
| 19:48.37 | cncfanatics | Industrial, those are all in your mind too :) |
| 19:48.43 | Industrial | :| |
| 19:48.49 | Industrial | Ominous: me :P |
| 19:49.25 | Industrial | cncfanatics: Current Features: ... Text Substitution system similar to the one in FlexBar1 but more powerful and customizable ... |
| 19:49.28 | Industrial | ? |
| 19:49.42 | cncfanatics | remember how text subs worked in FB1 ? |
| 19:50.13 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.18 | cncfanatics | no |
| 19:50.25 | cncfanatics | flexbar text1 text='%cd' |
| 19:50.30 | Stephmw | has flexbar entered the 2.0 era yet? |
| 19:50.39 | Industrial | mehh i only need to place the buttons tbh :( |
| 19:50.41 | cncfanatics | Stephmw, in the early beta phase :) |
| 19:50.50 | cncfanatics | Industrial, refer to Ominous for the script :) |
| 19:51.03 | Industrial | Ominous: --^ |
| 19:51.09 | cncfanatics | oh, and Ominous, I'd suggest not using spell, item & macro type buttons too much till they're supported correctly |
| 19:51.19 | Ominous | yea, it was just for the stance bar |
| 19:51.35 | cncfanatics | will have to get a rogue to lvl 2 :p |
| 19:51.56 | Industrial | 8kills. |
| 19:52.00 | cncfanatics | btw, Stealth & so won't change icon for spells, that i'm sure |
| 19:52.08 | cncfanatics | can't just get mutliple icons by spell name from babble |
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| 19:53.09 | Industrial | Ominous: ? |
| 19:53.40 | Stephmw | cncfanatics: will it remain purely a scripted addon, or are there plans on a drag'n'drop config UI? |
| 19:54.04 | cncfanatics | Stephmw, there are |
| 19:54.18 | cncfanatics | we're first getting all features solid and ready |
| 19:54.28 | kergoth | vim --cmd "let start = reltime()" --cmd "let origstart = start" --cmd "let prevscript = 'cmd'" --cmd "au SourcePre * echo prevscript.': '.reltimestr(reltime(start)) | let start = reltime() | let prevscript = expand('<afile>')" --cmd "au VimEnter * echomsg 'VimEnter: '.reltimestr(reltime(origstart))" |
| 19:54.29 | cncfanatics | so the API stops changing when the addon is quite popular (aka, when the GUI is available) |
| 19:54.29 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:54.45 | kergoth | that tidbit times the loading of each vim script at startup to determine the cause of increased loading times |
| 19:55.24 | cncfanatics | does it take itself into calculation ? :p |
| 19:56.02 | Groll | darn techtalk in here today :P |
| 19:56.04 | kergoth | its only ballpark anyway. theres a vim event called SourcePre fired before loading each script, but theres no SourcePost |
| 19:56.15 | nomenquis | hi, I'm using arcHUD and have found a strange bug. If one disables the target window of arcHUD then it will obviously not show. However, if i move my pointer to a position where it would have shown (if it was enabled) then tooltips still show up. Does someone have any idea on how to fix that? |
| 19:56.24 | kergoth | so if something happens between the scxript finishing loading andt he next source pre, itll be incorrectly assigned to the previous script's time |
| 19:56.35 | kergoth | but for ballpark itll do |
| 19:56.53 | FtH|Daemona | nymbia -> did you fix -> [2007/03/13 20:29:44-1562-x1]: ...eriodicTable-3.0\PeriodicTable-3.0-AllData\PeriodicTable-3.0-AllData.lua:1139: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 12) near ']': |
| 19:56.57 | FtH|Daemona | or what was the change? |
| 19:57.13 | nymbia | FtH|Daemona: yeah i fixed that before work this morning i think |
| 19:57.17 | kergoth | ~/code/wowbits/kergwow/trunk$ svn ls|wc -l |
| 19:57.27 | kergoth | 171 |
| 19:57.27 | kergoth | damnit |
| 19:57.27 | nymbia | unless its still happening |
| 19:57.27 | kergoth | had it below 160 for a while :| |
| 19:57.38 | FtH|Daemona | cant update during raid, just curious ;) |
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| 19:58.30 | Stephmw | cncfanatics: that's great to hear ;) |
| 19:58.45 | cncfanatics | Stephmw, glad u like it :) |
| 19:59.12 | nomenquis | noone having an idea about my problem with archud? |
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| 19:59.30 | Ominous | industrial 2mins, just checking something |
| 19:59.49 | Industrial | anyone know the curse irc server/channel? i'm bugged by their website |
| 20:00.12 | Stephmw | cncfanatics: thing is, I always liked flex, but never really had the time to lear/tinker with everything |
| 20:00.40 | Stephmw | cncfanatics: and discord's stuff was nice, but unfortunately buggy (I was stretching its limits though) |
| 20:01.00 | cncfanatics | Stephmw, flex will ALWAYS be very customizable, and thus require some time & learning to setup :p |
| 20:01.01 | Stephmw | *learn |
| 20:01.25 | cncfanatics | Industrial, #curse-lua & #curse-wow |
| 20:01.34 | cncfanatics | on irc.quakenet.org |
| 20:01.53 | Cyrez | Yeah, what he said. ^ |
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| 20:02.34 | Funkeh` | nymbia! |
| 20:02.55 | nymbia | sup Funkeh` |
| 20:02.59 | Funkeh` | whats the new droprate filter for pt3 mining set at |
| 20:03.02 | Cyrez | #curse-wow is apparently their main channel. |
| 20:03.08 | cncfanatics | ~seen JJSheets |
| 20:03.39 | purl | jjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 4m 2s ago, saying: 'hunter later, cause you know you can't have just one...'. |
| 20:03.39 | Stephmw | cncfanatics: aye, what I'd love is the ability to draft things out with a simple UI, and then tinker with the underlying script ;) |
| 20:03.39 | Cyrez | LOTS of people in there. |
| 20:03.39 | Stephmw | cncfanatics: ok, I'm lazy :) |
| 20:03.40 | Groll | Industrial quakenet |
| 20:03.40 | Ominous | incomming pastey |
| 20:03.43 | cncfanatics | Stemphw, u can do that :p |
| 20:03.46 | Groll | and umm sec |
| 20:03.54 | Industrial | roger |
| 20:04.01 | Ominous | http://ace.pastey.net/8284 |
| 20:04.05 | nymbia | Funkeh`: blues and above all make it through, greens and below need a droprate of at least 0.5% |
| 20:04.07 | cncfanatics | Stephmw, there are quite a few ways to set FB up though |
| 20:04.23 | cncfanatics | the script Ominous pasted is one, makes FB itself lazy and the script does all saving work |
| 20:04.24 | Funkeh` | nymbia i see greens at 0.2% and so, fix kk |
| 20:04.28 | Groll | Industrial #curse-wow |
| 20:04.40 | Industrial | < Industrial> roger |
| 20:04.40 | cncfanatics | u don't have too much problems with api or savedvars changes then |
| 20:04.47 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 20:05.00 | cncfanatics | there's also the savedvars way to let FB do all the work, may lead to probs if savedvars or API changes a lot |
| 20:05.11 | nymbia | Funkeh`: are those actually getting pulled down or are they just old data and not getting mined for some reason? |
| 20:05.31 | Funkeh` | probably old data |
| 20:06.27 | Funkeh` | ill try a little cleanup later force it to redownload some old ones |
| 20:06.46 | nymbia | :) |
| 20:06.48 | beerke_ | bigwigs bossblock produces error spam btw |
| 20:07.08 | beerke_ | line 314 attempt to call method debug, a nil value |
| 20:07.09 | Funkeh` | you lie beerke_ |
| 20:07.14 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30107 10PeriodicTable-3.0/dataminer.lua: |
| 20:07.14 | CIA-18 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 20:07.14 | CIA-18 | - tsk, no leaving in skip statements nymbia! |
| 20:07.26 | beerke_ | no i am dead serious ! |
| 20:07.28 | Funkeh` | orly! |
| 20:07.28 | cncfanatics | beerke_, change that to Debug, and it'll be fixed |
| 20:07.31 | cncfanatics | just capitalize the D |
| 20:07.43 | beerke_ | Well, fix it on svn :) |
| 20:07.50 | beerke_ | and i will do it locally ^^ |
| 20:07.55 | Funkeh` | i will fix it if ya give me the full error |
| 20:08.02 | beerke_ | line 314 |
| 20:08.08 | beerke_ | attempt to call method Debug |
| 20:09.02 | beerke_ | hmm |
| 20:09.12 | beerke_ | you want SS of error |
| 20:09.29 | Funkeh` | no |
| 20:09.44 | Herio | put those bugs inna sack |
| 20:09.58 | beerke_ | well they went partially in bugsack |
| 20:10.01 | beerke_ | :) |
| 20:10.09 | beerke_ | it flooded my chat window also apparantly |
| 20:11.47 | Fin | Itch-E and Scratch-E rule |
| 20:11.50 | Fin | that is all |
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| 20:13.23 | nymbia | hey ckknight |
| 20:13.57 | Fisker- | it cans be raep tiems now nymbia |
| 20:14.06 | Fisker- | so you better watch out |
| 20:14.10 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 20:14.17 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 20:14.23 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 20:14.56 | Fisker- | no way you're gonna be able to flee from me |
| 20:16.35 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30108 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: hopefully fix debugging |
| 20:16.53 | Funkeh` | try that |
| 20:17.17 | beerke | well think u forgot to include AceDebug if i looked correcctly |
| 20:17.28 | Funkeh` | no we removed it |
| 20:26.34 | ckknight | Funkeh`: http://www.atlasmod.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=744&st=0&sk=t&sd=a |
| 20:27.23 | Funkeh` | LAWL |
| 20:27.27 | Funkeh` | fucking LAWL |
| 20:27.44 | Funkeh` | hell |
| 20:27.51 | Funkeh` | why don't we just make atlas a carto plugin |
| 20:28.09 | Groll | hmm what is that wow site called.. got items and tactics on it.. not wowhead or curse or thitt |
| 20:28.17 | Groll | thott.. and not allakazam either |
| 20:28.21 | Groll | some other site |
| 20:30.22 | Funkeh` | so |
| 20:30.31 | Funkeh` | now carto and atlas will be what, exactly the same |
| 20:30.57 | kergoth | well, atlas will be nice for anyone who doesnt want to customize their world map |
| 20:31.00 | kergoth | why they wouldnt i have no idea |
| 20:31.03 | kergoth | but people are strange, so who knows |
| 20:31.20 | hyperChipmunk | wowwiki? |
| 20:31.32 | Groll | hyperChipmunk no not that one either :P |
| 20:31.39 | Funkeh` | i think we just go cartographer_atlas or something |
| 20:31.46 | Groll | it's like wowhead kinda but it's not wowhead i'm looking for :P |
| 20:31.52 | hyperChipmunk | and make it an empty directory? |
| 20:31.56 | Saroz_ | Thx to the guy who fucked up debugging |
| 20:32.06 | Saroz_ | got a big fatass error on prince mech now |
| 20:32.06 | nymbia | uh wowguru? but its not maintained anymore i dont think |
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| 20:32.13 | Groll | nymbia nope :P |
| 20:32.21 | Groll | damnit this is annoying :P |
| 20:32.40 | Funkeh` | ckknight: what are your thoughts |
| 20:33.51 | NeoTron | Man I'm having so much problems with talent specs |
| 20:34.16 | Groll | NeoTron what class? |
| 20:34.27 | NeoTron | warlock |
| 20:34.32 | OverloadUT | Demo! ;) |
| 20:34.39 | Groll | ah oke going pve specc or pvp? |
| 20:34.49 | NeoTron | not a problem finding a good build.. but rather that theer are at least 3+ builds I like |
| 20:35.01 | NeoTron | pve |
| 20:35.14 | Groll | k sec :P |
| 20:35.17 | NeoTron | 0/40/21 atm and it works great for raiding/5mans |
| 20:35.27 | NeoTron | 20% crit is nice |
| 20:35.47 | Groll | my guildmate would not like that as a pve specc i can tell you :P and he is one of the best locks i ever seen :P |
| 20:36.20 | NeoTron | Groll: well I top DPS charts and haev lots of pet utility. that's good enough for me ;-) |
| 20:36.47 | NeoTron | it's just not quite as useful as demo/aff or aff/demo for soloing |
| 20:36.55 | NeoTron | but 10 dest is required |
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| 20:37.14 | NeoTron | as anything else calls for using incinerate which means DPS will be 50/50 shadow/fire which sucks for gearing purposes |
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| 20:40.50 | Groll | NeoTron http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=NA0MiMftVtbo0xM and then work ur way down to shadowburn |
| 20:42.30 | NeoTron | I don't agree with 5/5 shadow embrace. it's not worth it |
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| 20:43.06 | Groll | hehe oke.. well i dunno.. i know he has played warlock since the start of wow on stormscale and was if not was the best warlock on the server :P |
| 20:43.18 | NeoTron | basically on a 10000 dmg hit (unmitigated) it removes 500. Mitigated ht changes the hit from maybe 3000 to 2850 |
| 20:43.27 | NeoTron | not worth 5 pts. 1 point yes, not 5 |
| 20:43.42 | NeoTron | fel intellect is mostly useless too |
| 20:44.02 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AEMrVMckVtbocxZxx0z |
| 20:44.03 | Groll | oh sorry :P was supposed to be removed.. only felstamina |
| 20:44.18 | NeoTron | that is a good aff/dest/demo build |
| 20:44.30 | NeoTron | and no, nightfall isn't that great |
| 20:44.38 | NeoTron | but you can juggle points around a bit in af to get it |
| 20:45.14 | NeoTron | it's not so much that I don't know how to make a decent build. it's just taht I can't decide how to do it |
| 20:45.17 | Groll | well as i said.. i dunno but i know he knows what he's talking about :P |
| 20:45.22 | Groll | hehe :P |
| 20:45.26 | NeoTron | esp not with a 10 pt minimum in dest |
| 20:45.52 | sbu | any1 tried mass dispel on demon chains? (illhoof) |
| 20:46.07 | sbu | wonder if it works since it works with paladin shild as well... |
| 20:46.30 | ckknight | Funkeh`: yes, Carto and Atlas will be exactly the same _on the backend_ |
| 20:46.36 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I'm fine with that |
| 20:46.42 | ckknight | he has his own community and everything |
| 20:46.47 | Funkeh` | alright |
| 20:46.54 | ckknight | but since we're both GPL and all, there's free code sharing between us |
| 20:47.12 | ckknight | I'm gonna work on better restrictions for the packing script now |
| 20:47.20 | Funkeh` | oh goodie |
| 20:47.21 | NeoTron | sbu: interesting question |
| 20:47.38 | ckknight | Funkeh`: what did you want? |
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| 20:48.26 | Funkeh` | not to have to ignore every texture when using world textures, when you used ignore, minx miny wouldn't register |
| 20:48.53 | Funkeh` | well thats the problem, how to solve it is another thing ^^ |
| 20:49.54 | NeoTron | what I wonder with affliction are certain encounters. |
| 20:50.13 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I think I'm gonna revamp the system and make it nice |
| 20:50.17 | NeoTron | the curator - aff is not effective on adds. Illhoof - I guess seed of corruption method would work (used hellfire here) |
| 20:50.18 | ckknight | for the minx/maxx |
| 20:50.36 | Funkeh` | sounds cool |
| 20:50.39 | ckknight | actually |
| 20:50.40 | ckknight | wait |
| 20:50.49 | ckknight | minx,maxx are only for world textures |
| 20:50.56 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 20:50.59 | Funkeh` | but so is ignore |
| 20:51.00 | ckknight | and that's fine, right? |
| 20:51.10 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 20:51.11 | ckknight | you just can't get ignore to work on world textures |
| 20:51.20 | Funkeh` | well we never use any restrictions for dungeon textures |
| 20:51.30 | Funkeh` | apart from karazhan i think |
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| 20:58.28 | sbu | ok - confirmed, chains are NOT dispelable ;p |
| 20:58.40 | Funkeh` | chains? |
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| 21:01.29 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30109 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - new packing script, taking some changes from Atlas, allow for ignore on world textures. |
| 21:01.40 | ckknight | Funkeh`: okay then |
| 21:01.49 | NeoTron | sbu: good to know |
| 21:01.51 | ckknight | note: seems like it splits up SM into the four wings |
| 21:02.14 | Funkeh` | using the world texture? |
| 21:02.23 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: Illhoof Demon Chains |
| 21:03.09 | Funkeh` | NeoTron, no you gotta kill them |
| 21:03.24 | Cryect | You can DS or IB out of them though |
| 21:03.39 | ggilbert | They don't have much health, so they break quickly |
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| 21:04.21 | Funkeh` | we decided to ignore illhoof tbh |
| 21:04.26 | Funkeh` | couldn't be assed with him :p |
| 21:04.34 | semi-_ | thats what I said. |
| 21:04.37 | semi-_ | just not worth it. |
| 21:05.05 | Funkeh` | just want in SC asap no screwing around |
| 21:05.29 | Cryect | illhoof is easy |
| 21:05.34 | Cryect | still pretty much free loot |
| 21:05.37 | Cryect | just can't goto sleep |
| 21:05.46 | Cryect | Heh before it was fall asleep on the fight |
| 21:06.26 | NeoTron | he's so dang easy |
| 21:06.47 | NeoTron | easier than curator, easier (at least to learn) than netherspite.. |
| 21:06.55 | NeoTron | so yeah mostly free loot |
| 21:07.51 | LLoydBates | Can someone help me? I'm from europe and would like to see a suggestion posted in the us suggestionforum but i can't post on it. is anyone willing to post it for me? preferable on a lvl70 priest? ;P |
| 21:08.03 | KarlThePagan | i have a lv70 priest |
| 21:08.09 | Stephmw | dammit. no default data in enchantrix :( |
| 21:08.10 | KarlThePagan | PM me the suggestion |
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| 21:08.18 | LLoydBates | i'll use ace pastey |
| 21:08.23 | KarlThePagan | that works ;) |
| 21:08.27 | LLoydBates | rather long text |
| 21:10.33 | Funkeh` | ckknight: the way SM is split is like 4 instances, any way we can put all 4 in one map? |
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| 21:10.44 | ckknight | Funkeh`: oh, I'm sure there's ways |
| 21:10.47 | ckknight | Funkeh`: it'd be complicated |
| 21:11.03 | ckknight | Funkeh`: and I really think that it might be better as four - not sure, though |
| 21:12.00 | ckknight | let's have it as four now |
| 21:12.00 | ckknight | and I'll tinker with it later |
| 21:12.00 | ckknight | oh, btw, is it "The Battle of Mount Hyjal" or "The Battle for Mount Hyjal"? |
| 21:12.57 | Funkeh` | its just Mount Hyjal as far as i know, thats how its tagged im sure |
| 21:13.10 | sbu | http://www.wowwiki.com/Battle_of_Mount_Hyjal |
| 21:13.20 | Funkeh` | although thats a complete guess, since no one has been inside to check |
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| 21:13.26 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30110 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - fix capitalization of Atlas |
| 21:13.55 | Funkeh` | sbu, serpenshrine cavern is named coilfang reservoir, thats my point |
| 21:14.11 | Funkeh` | even after making several posts for them to rename the instance, its still named that |
| 21:15.08 | Funkeh` | but until someone can get inside and do a /print GetZoneText() i guess we should stick with battle for, ckknight |
| 21:15.27 | ckknight | changing it to Battle of |
| 21:15.29 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:15.32 | Funkeh` | meh |
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| 21:15.45 | ckknight | if I'm wrong, we'll change back |
| 21:15.54 | Funkeh` | won't know for a while anyway ^^ |
| 21:16.02 | Arrowmaster | i think you mean GetRealZoneText() not GetZoneText() |
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| 21:16.20 | Funkeh` | both should usually return the same inside an instance |
| 21:16.23 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30111 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - changed The Battle for Mount Hyjal to The Battle of Mount Hyjal |
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| 21:16.48 | Arrowmaster | theres quite a lot of places that they dont return the same thing |
| 21:17.06 | Funkeh` | like? |
| 21:17.06 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30112 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - changed The Battle for Mount Hyjal to The Battle of Mount Hyjal |
| 21:17.31 | Funkeh` | ckknight: was it you or dan that changed hellfire ramparts? |
| 21:17.40 | ckknight | probably DanG |
| 21:17.47 | Funkeh` | im gonna change it back |
| 21:17.47 | ckknight | is it wrong now? |
| 21:17.48 | Elkano | btw: ckknight, someone had requested an option for tablet to set the max number of lines per tablet (eg to make a fixed size quest tracker) |
| 21:17.51 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 21:17.52 | Arrowmaster | ive found a lot of cave areas that have a different GetZoneText() than the zone theyre in |
| 21:18.11 | ckknight | Elkano: yea, I saw art3mis squealing about that earlier |
| 21:18.13 | ckknight | complex. |
| 21:18.13 | Cryect | Funkeh`: for Battle of Hyjal what does it say in the DBC files? |
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| 21:18.53 | Funkeh` | no idea |
| 21:19.37 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, im talking aobut instance zones |
| 21:19.57 | Funkeh` | the only thing that usually varies in instances is GetMinimapZoneText() |
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| 21:20.08 | phyber | so, I was wondering, why does Blizzard have the trash in 5mans respawn all the time, instead of making it like raids where after you kill a boss it stops. |
| 21:20.18 | Arrowmaster | i cant think of any instances but the point is clear that only GetRealZoneText() should be used to get the instance name |
| 21:20.48 | Funkeh` | not gonna argue over nothing, they return the same ;) |
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| 21:21.06 | Arrowmaster | hell didnt GetZoneText() used to change in UBRS? |
| 21:21.12 | Funkeh` | phyber, good question |
| 21:21.28 | Funkeh` | arrowmaster, ive never really checked |
| 21:21.46 | phyber | especially with stuff like Botanica. that place is a pretty big 5 man. |
| 21:23.06 | phyber | I just wonder this because we're in Arcatraz at the moment before the room with that married couple. |
| 21:23.11 | phyber | and the SS is on cooldown. |
| 21:23.21 | phyber | if we wipe, we're not going to complete it because nobody wants to do trash again. |
| 21:23.27 | chutwig | arcatraz is a hateful place |
| 21:23.27 | phyber | that's not a fun game, really. |
| 21:23.34 | Funkeh` | it should be alright |
| 21:23.46 | Funkeh` | just remember to use an interupt effect for the boss to the left |
| 21:24.01 | Arrowmaster | arcatraz trash is on atleast a 2hour respawn time now i think |
| 21:24.01 | KarlThePagan | she doensn't hit that hard |
| 21:24.26 | KarlThePagan | I just throw direct heals and avoid the debuff... if your tank can't stay up and avoid the whirlwind he needs to DELETE |
| 21:24.43 | Bruners | ckknight: have you made any thoughts about setting a note icon as default? |
| 21:24.54 | cncfanatics | phyber, if u didnt get to the couple before trash respawns u won't make it for last boss anyway tbh |
| 21:25.00 | cncfanatics | can get there in 30-45 mins |
| 21:25.03 | ckknight | Bruners: no idea what you're talking about |
| 21:25.05 | cncfanatics | and they're damn easy |
| 21:25.25 | Bruners | ckknight: asked you if you could add it a couple of weeks ago |
| 21:25.49 | ckknight | well, I forgot |
| 21:25.49 | ckknight | or wasn't paying attention |
| 21:26.18 | Bruners | ckknight: anyway, making one icon as default icon for all notes instead of random |
| 21:26.25 | Saint-N | ckk |
| 21:26.36 | phyber | cncfanatics: that wasn't the point ;) and not everyone is an epic CHAAAARRRRRGGGGEEEEEE PEWPEWPEW epix guild. |
| 21:26.42 | phyber | we have a bear tanking so we're a little slower ;) |
| 21:26.53 | Gnarfoz | you should be faster that way, tbh |
| 21:26.53 | Saint-N | how hard would it be to make tablet able to maxheight/width indiviual detached tooltips? |
| 21:27.07 | KarlThePagan | depends on the druid |
| 21:27.28 | phyber | she's not tanked much and this is only her second run in Arcatraz :) |
| 21:27.29 | KarlThePagan | some spec feral and expect to be uber tanks... but you need to have spent a lot of time getting actual tanking gear to do it |
| 21:27.40 | cncfanatics | phyber, I finished arcatraz unguilded |
| 21:27.43 | cncfanatics | and got only blues |
| 21:28.25 | Saint-N | or would i be better off trying to just "import" the code that does it and create my own inwder within the addon instead of using the generic detatched tooltip calls? |
| 21:28.28 | ckknight | Saint-N: very |
| 21:28.35 | ckknight | Bruners: oh, hrm |
| 21:28.35 | Saint-N | winder |
| 21:31.11 | ckknight | Funkeh`, also, I want to figure out the separation between UBRS and LBRS |
| 21:31.11 | Bruners | ckknight: did you understand what i ment? |
| 21:31.11 | ckknight | Bruners: yea |
| 21:31.12 | Funkeh` | ckknight: they are both the same instance, mjust different floors really, you could probably do a karazhan type thing |
| 21:31.34 | ckknight | Funkeh`: yea, that's what I was thinking |
| 21:31.34 | Funkeh` | ckknight: tbh i kinda cba wiht the old content :P |
| 21:31.34 | ckknight | Funkeh`: or just split it into two |
| 21:31.42 | ckknight | what did the English language ever do to you, Funkeh`? |
| 21:31.57 | Funkeh` | its not the language, tis the keyboard |
| 21:32.05 | Funkeh` | wireless ftw |
| 21:32.55 | kergoth | i thought i'd love having a wireless keyboard and mouse.. fuck no.. random noticable latency ftl |
| 21:34.11 | Funkeh` | great minds think alike kergoth, and also mistake alike |
| 21:35.44 | Tain | I don't use a wireless keyboard, but I *love* my mouse. |
| 21:36.13 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30113 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - forgot a comma |
| 21:37.26 | sbu | ahh |
| 21:37.30 | sbu | illhoof down :) |
| 21:38.28 | phyber | kergoth: which brand? I don't have a wireless keyboard, but I have a logitech MX1000. never noticed any lag at all. |
| 21:38.59 | kergoth | its a bluetooth logitech.. the problem is when theres interference with the bt |
| 21:39.06 | kergoth | bt and 802.11 seem to step on one another occasionally |
| 21:39.12 | kergoth | in mjy experience, anyway |
| 21:39.32 | CIA-18 | 03darravis * r30114 10AceDruidBar/ (AceDruidBar.lua AceDruidBar.toc AceDruidBar.xml): |
| 21:39.33 | CIA-18 | AceDruidBar: |
| 21:39.33 | CIA-18 | - Removed XML code |
| 21:39.37 | kergoth | when you suddenly get lag on the keyboard and the wifi drops to 11mbps, theres ap roblem |
| 21:39.41 | kergoth | heh |
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| 21:39.47 | ckknight | Funkeh`: where would I find a map of LBRS/UBRS? |
| 21:39.47 | kergoth | my old bt headphones used to interfere with our wifi |
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| 21:40.08 | chutwig | sounds like a bad cordless phone |
| 21:40.37 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i guess it would the common.mpq |
| 21:41.12 | ckknight | I meant a compiled map :-P |
| 21:41.13 | ckknight | found one |
| 21:41.39 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i don't think the script is looking in the root directory for wmo's keep getting errors aout not finding maps |
| 21:41.46 | Funkeh` | about* |
| 21:42.06 | ckknight | should be the current directory |
| 21:42.48 | Funkeh` | 'Cannot find map file: Hellfire_ramparts.wmo' its definately there ^^ |
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| 21:43.15 | ckknight | oh |
| 21:43.21 | ckknight | cause it's looking in wmo/ dealy |
| 21:43.22 | ckknight | hang on |
| 21:43.31 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 21:44.17 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30115 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - fix packing script for wmo directory |
| 21:44.50 | ckknight | try now |
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| 21:49.29 | Funkeh` | script works, but no, the ramparts wmo is still a wall, gonna change it back to world texture |
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| 21:50.58 | zoktar | anyone know any nice squishy alert mod ? |
| 21:51.33 | ckknight | Funkeh`: sounds good |
| 21:52.09 | zoktar | vital watch maybe ? |
| 21:54.10 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30116 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps: use world for hellfire ramparts |
| 21:57.42 | Elkano | Funkeh`, how is LBRS/UBRS comming? ;) |
| 21:58.11 | Funkeh` | Elkano, i think ckknight is doing something with it, no idea |
| 21:58.18 | Elkano | in a layered way where someone could actually see something ;) |
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| 21:58.28 | ckknight | basically, I have never played UBRS or LBRS |
| 21:58.31 | ckknight | so I have no idea |
| 21:58.36 | ckknight | if you'd like to help, I'll tell you how |
| 21:58.54 | ckknight | open the Data.lua file in Cartographer_InstanceMaps |
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| 21:59.16 | ckknight | in Cartographer_InstanceMaps_Floors, put the line ["Upper Blackrock Spire"] = {0}, |
| 21:59.17 | Daemona | ok, who fubar'd babble? |
| 21:59.23 | Daemona | ^^ |
| 21:59.26 | ckknight | Daemona: already fixed |
| 21:59.34 | ckknight | Elkano: and then tweak that 0 until it looks right |
| 21:59.48 | Daemona | svn or files.wowace.com? |
| 21:59.58 | Funkeh` | should be on files by now |
| 22:01.11 | [Ammo] | tweak the 0 how? |
| 22:01.21 | [Ammo] | change it to 1 2 3 ? or 0.1 or something ese? |
| 22:01.25 | Daemona | 30113 is the fixed revision? |
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| 22:02.10 | Bruners | when is cartographer getting updated with heroic loot?:) |
| 22:02.22 | ckknight | [Ammo]: actually if you look down to the data, you'll see the last column |
| 22:02.34 | Funkeh` | cartographer has heroic loot |
| 22:02.38 | Funkeh` | it comes from pt3 |
| 22:02.41 | Funkeh` | which comes from wowhead |
| 22:02.46 | ckknight | -193.590271 at the top, 248.717880 at the bottom |
| 22:02.46 | Funkeh` | if something is wrong fix wowhead |
| 22:02.55 | ckknight | the 0 is where the separation between "floors" is |
| 22:03.08 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 22:03.31 | Bruners | thinking more like only showing heroic option |
| 22:03.38 | Funkeh` | no |
| 22:03.40 | Bruners | like atlas have now |
| 22:03.52 | Funkeh` | there is no way to filter heroic loot from wowhead |
| 22:04.11 | Funkeh` | there is no way to do it apart from sorting loot individually, which will never happen |
| 22:04.21 | Daemona | well mostly the epics and lvl115 blues are heroic only at least for those instances that are not lvl70 on normal mode :) |
| 22:04.45 | nymbia | Funkeh`: sure you can, they gather heroic and nonheroic seperately |
| 22:04.52 | Funkeh` | they do? |
| 22:05.03 | Funkeh` | then fix it nymbia, damn gnome |
| 22:05.03 | nymbia | Funkeh`: it's just a question of adapting the database, which they're slow at |
| 22:05.05 | Daemona | then they didnt implement a filter on the web-page yet |
| 22:05.10 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 22:05.49 | Funkeh` | daemona, well thats what im getting at |
| 22:05.49 | Daemona | as well as they seem to discard either europe loot totally or the deDE server stuff i gather with my enGB client :( |
| 22:05.53 | Daemona | so much serpentshrine loot i uploaded... nothing showing up for 2 weeks now :( |
| 22:06.00 | Funkeh` | if we can pull the loot from wowhead as 2 individual tables, heroic and non heroic it should be np |
| 22:06.16 | Funkeh` | daemona thats because they won't rename the fucking instance |
| 22:06.32 | Daemona | hu? |
| 22:06.39 | Funkeh` | it uploads as coilfang reservoir and so wowhead doesn't add it to 'serpentshrine cavern' |
| 22:06.53 | Daemona | ... |
| 22:07.01 | Funkeh` | get blizz to rename serpentshrine cavern, its tagged as coilfang reservoir |
| 22:07.24 | Daemona | f*cking good job blizz |
| 22:07.32 | Daemona | but why is other loot showing up? |
| 22:07.34 | Funkeh` | i made p[oor nymbia post for me which got ignored |
| 22:07.40 | Funkeh` | i post on eu, got ignored |
| 22:08.03 | Funkeh` | pretty sure that got added manually |
| 22:08.39 | Daemona | hmm |
| 22:09.01 | Funkeh` | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=240984276&sid=1 |
| 22:09.03 | Funkeh` | bump it baby |
| 22:09.05 | Funkeh` | bump it |
| 22:09.10 | Daemona | wrote an email @ wowhead didnt even get a reply for a week now |
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| 22:11.06 | Funkeh` | apparently 'the eye' is like that also, they probably named it 'tempest keep' |
| 22:11.14 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30117 10StatStain/StatStain.lua: |
| 22:11.14 | CIA-18 | StatStain: |
| 22:11.14 | CIA-18 | - Simplified socket coloring code and fixed a bug in it. |
| 22:11.17 | Daemona | bumped for great justice |
| 22:11.21 | Daemona | @ Funkeh` |
| 22:11.36 | Funkeh` | :) |
| 22:11.53 | nymbia | they're too busy adding useless profiles >.< |
| 22:12.15 | Funkeh` | :p |
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| 22:13.52 | Daemona | yeah.... like http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Daemona .... who is interested in the amounts of pots i chugged and then logged off due to the raidleader calling it a night cause of MT healer incompetence :( |
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| 22:14.52 | Funkeh` | hehe |
| 22:15.59 | Funkeh` | at least yours works, mine worked for a few days then stuff started breaking, no guild, no arena teams etc :p |
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| 22:25.02 | Daemona | hey, do you think i raid without chest? ^^ its serpentshrine loot, its not even showing on the armory ;) |
| 22:25.34 | Ominous | hey JJ |
| 22:25.42 | Ominous | its all working great now, thanks :D |
| 22:25.47 | JJSheets | what's up man? :) |
| 22:25.51 | JJSheets | cool |
| 22:25.51 | Ominous | ^^ |
| 22:26.07 | JJSheets | have you tested out the druid stuff yet? |
| 22:26.10 | Ominous | yea |
| 22:26.15 | JJSheets | need any work? |
| 22:26.32 | Ominous | i have onlly set it to change when you go bear, cat and stealth, as blizz only change for bear and ca |
| 22:26.32 | Ominous | t |
| 22:26.47 | JJSheets | blizz doesn't change in other forms? |
| 22:27.04 | Ominous | no, well i didnt check seal but i dont think it doe |
| 22:27.14 | kergoth | nymbia: noticed a statstain bug, i got a barbaric gloves recipe (like +4 agi +5 sta +4 spi), and it colored the +4 spi in the recipe as Ench: +4 spi |
| 22:27.26 | JJSheets | also... does it work properly when you go from cat prowl to bear form? |
| 22:27.29 | Ominous | yea |
| 22:27.34 | JJSheets | excellent. |
| 22:27.40 | nymbia | kergoth: i thought i fixed that a while ago.. hrm |
| 22:27.41 | Ominous | you have to go to normal form furst anyway |
| 22:27.46 | JJSheets | really? |
| 22:27.48 | Ominous | you cant go cat --> bear |
| 22:27.55 | Ominous | ill check hangon |
| 22:27.57 | kergoth | nymbia: i ran into it like 2 days ago, so if you fixed it after that.. |
| 22:28.01 | Barbanus | yes, that is correct |
| 22:28.09 | Barbanus | but there is a nice macro ... lemme get it .. |
| 22:28.29 | nymbia | kergoth: nah long time ago. lemme take a look at a recipe link though.. might be different for those. |
| 22:28.34 | Ominous | barbanusL you a druid:? |
| 22:28.34 | kergoth | k |
| 22:28.47 | Barbanus | Ominous, my 70 alt is a druid, yea |
| 22:28.58 | JJSheets | Barbanus, main reason I wondered is for stance changes on secure action bars. |
| 22:29.16 | Ominous | barbanus: is there a need to page bars on moonkin, seal or travel form? |
| 22:29.24 | JJSheets | everything I've seen indicates that you can go from one form directly to another... but I never played druid before last night. |
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| 22:29.53 | JJSheets | also tree of life form if you know |
| 22:30.03 | Barbanus | the default UI doesnt for any of those |
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| 22:30.13 | Ominous | is there a need to tho? |
| 22:30.22 | JJSheets | would you consider it useful, or a waste of programming time? |
| 22:30.23 | Barbanus | travel and seal, no |
| 22:30.26 | Barbanus | cant do anything in it |
| 22:30.29 | JJSheets | k |
| 22:30.32 | Barbanus | same with flight |
| 22:30.36 | Barbanus | moonkin, possibly |
| 22:30.50 | Barbanus | someone might run around with a healing bar in caster form .. and dps bar in moonkin |
| 22:30.55 | JJSheets | seal and flight are essentially travel forms anyways right? |
| 22:31.22 | Barbanus | I personally run around with a dps bar in caster .. and my 2nd bar is a healer bar .. that I change manually when I am healing (but I also use click casting most of the time) |
| 22:31.46 | JJSheets | what about Treeform? or do you not use it? |
| 22:32.06 | Barbanus | I dont use it .. lemme as one of our druids in my guild irc |
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| 22:32.20 | JJSheets | cool... thanks for the help! :) |
| 22:33.35 | Barbanus | he says he uses bar3, which does that .. so yes .. he uses it. |
| 22:33.44 | Barbanus | (I never knew bar3 did that, lol) |
| 22:33.57 | Barbanus | for tree / moonkin |
| 22:34.03 | JJSheets | yeah bar3 is where I found most of my druid stance change info. |
| 22:34.34 | jayrox | any one available to answer a couple (hopefully) quick svn questions i have? |
| 22:34.59 | JJSheets | it's better to ask than to ask to ask jayrox :) |
| 22:35.07 | jayrox | :P |
| 22:35.15 | JJSheets | so ask. If someone has the answer you'll get it. :) |
| 22:35.27 | jayrox | ive set up tortoisesvn's config to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps |
| 22:35.27 | Barbanus | JJSheets I think treeform / moonkin would be useful |
| 22:35.42 | Barbanus | travel / seal / flight should just be your normal bar |
| 22:35.48 | Barbanus | can't cast anything anyways |
| 22:35.49 | jayrox | yet, when i goto upload my files it still says my props arent set... |
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| 22:36.13 | Ominous | JJ: there is a problem when you go to a stance that the bar dosent change for in the empty bar buttons |
| 22:36.15 | Cryect | Bar 3 is defiantely where most druids keep their form shifts from what I've seen |
| 22:36.40 | Funkeh` | its 'the bar' |
| 22:36.44 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 22:36.45 | JJSheets | Ominous... say that again... I don't understand? |
| 22:36.48 | yacoob | Formbar. |
| 22:36.51 | yacoob | sorry. |
| 22:36.58 | yacoob | *The* Formbar |
| 22:37.08 | yacoob | Not to be confused with Formbear. |
| 22:37.26 | JJSheets | Barbanus, I didn't get confirmation, you can't go directly from on shapeshift form to another, correct? |
| 22:37.34 | Cryect | correct |
| 22:37.37 | Cryect | But you kinda can |
| 22:37.42 | Ominous | when you go Moonkin and i havent set the bar to change,( see script on FB2 page) the unused buttons change to the textire for the first button |
| 22:37.43 | Cryect | If you have in a macro |
| 22:37.44 | Barbanus | you cannot, you have to shift out |
| 22:37.53 | Cryect | you can shift out and shift in and one message to the server |
| 22:37.55 | Barbanus | moonkin => caster => bear |
| 22:38.05 | Barbanus | but it shifts out first |
| 22:38.05 | JJSheets | k thanks |
| 22:38.12 | Cryect | you do /cancelaura;/cast Whateverform |
| 22:38.20 | JJSheets | jayrox, doublecheck that none of those lines are commented out. |
| 22:38.24 | Cryect | to other people it looks like you didn't shift out though |
| 22:38.46 | JJSheets | well, that makes druid forms a hell of a lot easier to program for imo. :) |
| 22:38.55 | Funkeh` | spam that spamstring |
| 22:38.57 | Funkeh` | spam it |
| 22:39.03 | Ominous | JJ did you see my last message? |
| 22:39.12 | jayrox | JJSheets: i copied the blocked text exactly, so no apparent comments unless im missing something |
| 22:39.14 | art3mis | hey jj |
| 22:39.21 | art3mis | there's ominous |
| 22:39.26 | art3mis | ;) |
| 22:39.32 | JJSheets | lol |
| 22:39.47 | art3mis | hye omnious jj was looking for ya last night |
| 22:39.49 | art3mis | like lots |
| 22:39.51 | art3mis | ;) |
| 22:40.01 | Ominous | well i fell asleep at pc |
| 22:40.06 | JJSheets | lol |
| 22:40.10 | Ominous | then crawled to bed when i woke up |
| 22:40.10 | art3mis | what irc client ya got? |
| 22:40.14 | Ominous | hdra |
| 22:40.17 | Ominous | hydra* |
| 22:40.20 | art3mis | i tried to convince him to just send msg's ;P |
| 22:40.28 | JJSheets | I eventually did :) |
| 22:40.28 | art3mis | assuming it would spawn a msg winder |
| 22:40.35 | Barbanus | JJSheets, does FB use the blizzard keybinding menu to set keybindings? |
| 22:40.42 | JJSheets | Barbanus, nope |
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| 22:41.18 | JJSheets | it also doesn't permanently change the keybindings, so unless you save the settings you can try FB2 and go back easily if it doesn't work. |
| 22:41.23 | art3mis | so, semi technical quest... let's say i wanted to create a tooltip, using tablet but i wanted to limit the size of said tooltip so tha if it "grew" bigger it would mouse scrolly |
| 22:41.23 | Ominous | ps. JJ you logged of irc as i woke up :P |
| 22:41.38 | JJSheets | Ominous, you bastard. :) |
| 22:41.43 | art3mis | without effecting EVERY tooltip that tablet makes |
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| 22:42.03 | JJSheets | good luck art3mis :) |
| 22:42.05 | Ominous | i head the ping as you messaged me i was lying in bed struggling to wake up |
| 22:42.11 | JJSheets | lol |
| 22:42.12 | Ominous | s/me i/ me as i |
| 22:42.13 | art3mis | so there's no way to do that? |
| 22:42.32 | JJSheets | art3mis, not sure |
| 22:42.41 | art3mis | and i'd be stuff with the "tracker" that questfu has in default? |
| 22:42.58 | JJSheets | but I'm struggling with Ominous' last bug report to see if I can figure a good way to do it... |
| 22:43.47 | art3mis | hrm |
| 22:43.52 | JJSheets | Ominous, you're using the script you posted in the forum right? |
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| 22:44.07 | art3mis | wish anti was around to point me in the right direction |
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| 22:44.17 | art3mis | hiya clad |
| 22:44.53 | cladhaire | hi |
| 22:45.00 | art3mis | i'd either like to make nquests tracker scrolly with a fixed size OR fix the detached tooltip on questfu so i can hardcode it to a fixed size |
| 22:45.05 | Ominous | JJ: yes, but with 1 change |
| 22:45.17 | JJSheets | gimme the change. |
| 22:45.28 | art3mis | and i'd also like to make the questfu author pick better colours than the horrid red yellow crap he seems to love ;P |
| 22:45.52 | Ominous | JJ: ln 51 --> button:SetNormalMap("","","action", i ) |
| 22:45.54 | JJSheets | you take that back! red yellow crap is awesome! |
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| 22:46.31 | JJSheets | Ominous, that change shouldn't effect it the way you're seeing... |
| 22:46.32 | yacoob | :D |
| 22:46.38 | JJSheets | carp? |
| 22:46.40 | JJSheets | lol |
| 22:47.20 | JJSheets | Ominous, what IS effecting it is the fact that it's switching to forms you're not handling... so.... I have work to do. :) |
| 22:47.52 | JJSheets | in the meantime... enjoy your rogue stealth :) |
| 22:47.55 | Ominous | meh, dw ill just add in a few lines |
| 22:48.00 | art3mis | jj ONLY for webpages if the background is red and foregound is flashing yellow ;P |
| 22:48.03 | Ominous | yea its purdy |
| 22:48.13 | art3mis | for a quest tracker with no shaded background its stupidly hard to read |
| 22:48.37 | JJSheets | art3mis, so set it to have a 50% transparent black background like I do. :p |
| 22:48.59 | art3mis | OR i can bitch about the colours ;P |
| 22:49.03 | JJSheets | lol |
| 22:49.09 | JJSheets | have at it. :) |
| 22:49.11 | art3mis | guess which one is simpler for me |
| 22:49.14 | art3mis | heh |
| 22:49.17 | Ominous | JJ: i just recompiled script and no bug now |
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| 22:49.47 | JJSheets | oh hell... Ominous I know how you can do it too... set it to use the same id as the normal bar |
| 22:49.52 | JJSheets | no work for me |
| 22:49.54 | JJSheets | yay |
| 22:50.08 | Ominous | yea, but its odd |
| 22:50.16 | Ominous | i just recompileld script and the bug isbnt there |
| 22:50.24 | JJSheets | hmmmm |
| 22:50.33 | JJSheets | well, my suggestion is this... |
| 22:50.51 | Ominous | just add the extra forms in |
| 22:50.52 | JJSheets | add SetStanceMap lines for each unused stance, setting the id to i |
| 22:51.03 | JJSheets | so it maps to the same ids as the normal bar |
| 22:51.27 | JJSheets | but actually I still want to get the source of that fixed anyway... |
| 22:51.35 | JJSheets | but now the complications have piled on. :) |
| 22:54.00 | Ominous | woot, my setup seems to work for every screen res |
| 22:54.37 | JJSheets | yeah... the way you're calculating center is accurate... my first script in the forum was quite inaccurate... :) |
| 22:57.11 | Ominous | although mine cant cope if i change button scale |
| 22:57.50 | JJSheets | mine probably won't either. |
| 22:58.01 | JJSheets | but right now I ain't close to worried about it :) |
| 22:58.18 | Ominous | are you going to use an ace options table when you construct your slash commands? |
| 22:58.25 | JJSheets | hopefully. |
| 22:58.54 | JJSheets | but that's a ways off just yet... |
| 22:59.27 | JJSheets | days at the earliest... I want stances, stealth, actionbars, and shift/ctrl/alt to all work perfectly and be fully customizable. |
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| 22:59.46 | Ominous | ohh, another thing, bar paging? |
| 22:59.48 | hypetech | Anybody here that's comfortable with xart? |
| 23:00.02 | JJSheets | yeah bar paging = actionbars |
| 23:01.20 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight * r30118 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - sort data by name in packing script. |
| 23:01.37 | Ominous | math.floor(nubwer) rounds down dight? |
| 23:01.46 | hypetech | anybody know how to change the background textures of XArt and make it a bit taller? |
| 23:02.32 | Cryect | yes Ominous |
| 23:02.33 | JJSheets | Ominous, math.floor(0.9) == 0 |
| 23:02.48 | Cryect | it always picks the largest integer less than the number |
| 23:02.55 | JJSheets | thus |
| 23:03.03 | Cryect | math.ceil does the opposite picking the lowest integer greater than the number |
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| 23:03.07 | JJSheets | math.floor(-0.1) == -1 |
| 23:03.35 | Ominous | that was just so i can put the maximum amount of buttons that will fit in for the "quest bar" |
| 23:03.39 | JJSheets | and likewise math.ceil(0.1) == 1 and math.ceil(-0.9) == 0 |
| 23:03.51 | JJSheets | quest bar? |
| 23:03.56 | Kemayo | art3mis: If you want a tablet to have a max height, use the "maxHeight" registration property. |
| 23:04.06 | Kemayo | Duh. :P |
| 23:04.23 | Ominous | "quest bar" is an empty bar for items which need using for quests |
| 23:04.26 | CIA-18 | 03nymbia * r30119 10StatStain/ (CustomPatterns.lua StatStain.lua StatStain.toc): |
| 23:04.26 | CIA-18 | StatStain: |
| 23:04.26 | CIA-18 | - Added custom patterns |
| 23:04.26 | CIA-18 | - Fixed changing color on double-called links (stupid recipes) -- needed to switch from :SetTextColor to throwing escapes in with :SetText, hopefully this doesnt cause many compatibility problems. |
| 23:04.32 | Ominous | such as bombs etc |
| 23:04.37 | JJSheets | ah |
| 23:04.53 | Kemayo | I grant you that it's not in the API documentation. But real addon writers read the Tablet source, right? |
| 23:04.57 | JJSheets | so essentially an item bar that you use exclusively for quest items. |
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| 23:06.17 | Ominous | well for anything, jsut i called it quest bar as thats where mine are going |
| 23:06.28 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:06.30 | Ominous | and also /run Ominous.Quest() toggles the bar |
| 23:06.48 | art3mis | hrm where's neuron |
| 23:07.32 | _neuron_ | heroic atm :P |
| 23:07.56 | art3mis | stick around ive got a couple of questions for ya |
| 23:08.02 | art3mis | well dont go far away rather ;P |
| 23:08.08 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 23:08.14 | _neuron_ | can read, I just can't type :P |
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| 23:10.08 | hypetech | anybody know how to change the background textures of XArt and make it a bit taller? |
| 23:11.10 | NeoTron | Ominous: does it automatically add items? |
| 23:11.15 | Ominous | nope |
| 23:11.33 | NeoTron | I tend to put them in a specific slot on my normal quest bar |
| 23:11.39 | NeoTron | would be nice to have an "autobar for quest items" |
| 23:12.04 | art3mis | technicalyl autobar does support it |
| 23:12.12 | art3mis | its just REALLY bad at it ;P |
| 23:12.56 | art3mis | and if anti ever stops being busy his sanitybags "should" be able to handle it |
| 23:13.24 | Antiarc|Work | Wait what |
| 23:13.27 | Antiarc|Work | Also, sup. |
| 23:13.30 | art3mis | hi! |
| 23:13.33 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, I need to finish it. >_> |
| 23:13.51 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:13.52 | art3mis | if you ever get around to working on sanity bags his want for a quest "bar" would be fufilled ;P |
| 23:13.57 | Antiarc|Work | And yes, it would. |
| 23:14.11 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30120 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps: small script fixes |
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| 23:20.22 | Uhuru | Is there a way to completely detach the pets frames from the pets owners with aguf ? |
| 23:20.44 | Bruners | drag it? |
| 23:20.44 | JJSheets | yes... I can't remember exactly how but yes |
| 23:21.59 | Uhuru | Bruners drag it works, but if the group members change, the free space between the pets frames change too |
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| 23:22.16 | Uhuru | i don't know if i explain this correctly in english |
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| 23:29.30 | art3mis | hey jj |
| 23:29.34 | JJSheets | yes? |
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| 23:29.37 | art3mis | that omnibus thingy |
| 23:29.46 | JJSheets | spit it out |
| 23:29.51 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:29.52 | art3mis | that will allow me to paste in code to muck with and test live right? |
| 23:29.56 | JJSheets | yes |
| 23:30.03 | JJSheets | tag the page Lua |
| 23:30.03 | art3mis | does it assume all libs? |
| 23:30.10 | JJSheets | I believe so |
| 23:30.16 | JJSheets | never had any problems with it. |
| 23:30.27 | JJSheets | since they're all loaded by the time you muck with it |
| 23:30.30 | art3mis | and if i load a made lua i can "run" it that way as well? |
| 23:30.36 | JJSheets | yes |
| 23:30.39 | art3mis | groovy thanks |
| 23:30.45 | cynyr | i have a slightly off topic question, anyone know how to make a macro that uses my flying mount if i can, otherwise it useing my riding mount? |
| 23:30.47 | JJSheets | yup |
| 23:30.59 | art3mis | cynyr: get go-go mount |
| 23:31.07 | art3mis | itll do it single keybind automagically |
| 23:31.09 | cynyr | okay |
| 23:31.16 | cynyr | sweet |
| 23:31.25 | JJSheets | cynyr, there is a macro available, and 2.1.0 will have a better macro |
| 23:31.45 | JJSheets | I think it's: |
| 23:32.01 | JJSheets | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.07 | JJSheets | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.18 | JJSheets | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.37 | JJSheets | changing Flying mount and grounded mount to the names you \want. |
| 23:32.41 | NightHawkTheSane | is /mount a valid slash command? I thought it was just /use |
| 23:32.46 | JJSheets | also you may need /use |
| 23:32.59 | JJSheets | not sure... since I'm almost permanently a lowbie |
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| 23:33.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 23:33.12 | JJSheets | but that up there will do it. |
| 23:33.43 | JJSheets | in 2.1.0, you'll be able to do /use [flyable] New Hotness Mount; Old Busted Mount |
| 23:33.45 | art3mis | hrm |
| 23:33.54 | CIA-18 | 03fenlis * r30121 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Updated localization koKR |
| 23:33.55 | art3mis | the prat scrolling for chatframes |
| 23:34.11 | art3mis | can i basically attach this to "any" frame created to enable scrollig? |
| 23:34.47 | art3mis | that would seem way to simplistic if that worked |
| 23:35.00 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30122 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps: damn comma's |
| 23:35.03 | art3mis | or does that only work because he chatframe already behaves that way on its own? |
| 23:35.37 | cynyr | JJSheets: lol |
| 23:35.55 | JJSheets | :) |
| 23:36.31 | art3mis | jj loves teh fark ;P |
| 23:36.38 | NightHawkTheSane | JJSheets: you dont really need the /stopcasting, I use "/use [nomounted] Swift Blue Gryphon; /use [nomounted] Swift Zulian Tiger; /dismount" just fine |
| 23:36.41 | JJSheets | art3mis, you should be able to add that feature to any frame, but it'll take work :) |
| 23:37.04 | rubik | whoa.. http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/WoWHead-Cart-Scraper |
| 23:37.34 | JJSheets | NightHawkTheSane, that looks like it would work too. :) |
| 23:37.48 | Garoun|Loupana | ltb ability to disable henge via profile :/ |
| 23:38.01 | Garoun|Loupana | can put it on standby but it won't go away |
| 23:41.10 | JJSheets | art3mis, Fark is better than that damn hippie 4chan crap for damn sure. |
| 23:41.13 | cynyr | NightHawkTheSane: doesn't dismount for me... |
| 23:42.13 | cynyr | nm my fault |
| 23:42.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ... it should... |
| 23:42.16 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 23:42.57 | cynyr | yea.. i can't type |
| 23:43.01 | Ominous | JJ: can FB2 have > 120 bittons |
| 23:43.41 | JJSheets | yes,but you can never have more than 120 action ids. I've got a workaround floating in my head to make it happen. |
| 23:44.31 | JJSheets | for now, limit yourself to 120 buttons total. |
| 23:44.52 | cynyr | NightHawkTheSane: would /cast [nomounted] stealth at the end of that do whati think? |
| 23:45.12 | JJSheets | ought to... |
| 23:45.47 | cynyr | if i spamed it would it break stealth |
| 23:45.53 | NightHawkTheSane | cynyr: hm, maybe, yeah. i havnt played around with it |
| 23:46.01 | JJSheets | though you might want to Capitalize Stealth |
| 23:46.14 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.18 | JJSheets | cynyr, one sec I may be able to make it spammable |
| 23:46.22 | JJSheets | ah |
| 23:46.37 | JJSheets | that ought to work /cast [nostealth,nomounted] Stealth |
| 23:46.54 | JJSheets | and that's a kickass macro there |
| 23:47.01 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30123 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/ (Artwork/ Data.lua): |
| 23:47.01 | CIA-18 | Cartographer_InstanceMaps: |
| 23:47.01 | CIA-18 | - no longer use any artwork file, woohoo! |
| 23:47.01 | CIA-18 | - complete data re-arrange/update/change, impending broken notes |
| 23:47.01 | CIA-18 | - 4 SM wings currently commented out |
| 23:47.01 | CIA-18 | - LBRS/UBRS will be fixed soon(tm) |
| 23:47.03 | CIA-18 | - alphabetical order ftw! |
| 23:47.15 | Funkeh` | lets see what breaks |
| 23:47.21 | Ominous | JJ: woot now my right 2 action bars are the right way up, so i can now change bacj to default UI at a friends hosue |
| 23:47.31 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:48.02 | Ominous | now i am content with it :D |
| 23:48.02 | cynyr | JJSheets: doesn't stealth.... |
| 23:48.13 | JJSheets | cynyr hmmmm |
| 23:48.23 | nymbia | Funkeh`: MY NOTES! you douchebag! ;) |
| 23:48.47 | Funkeh` | nymbia, i was this close to typing in (thats what we have nymbia for) in that commit |
| 23:48.59 | nymbia | hahaha |
| 23:49.02 | JJSheets | cynyr, then put it at just [nostealth] |
| 23:49.05 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 23:49.16 | JJSheets | since you can't be stealthed mounted I assume |
| 23:49.46 | cynyr | the stealth is to soon, i'm not dismounted yet.... |
| 23:49.56 | cynyr | i'm getting "you are mounted" |
| 23:50.12 | JJSheets | well that sucks. do [nomounted] and don't spam it. :) |
| 23:50.16 | JJSheets | heh |
| 23:50.28 | cynyr | lol |
| 23:50.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont think you can manage a mount/dismount/stealth all in one macro... |
| 23:50.59 | NightHawkTheSane | you can do dismount/stealth and mount/dismount, though |
| 23:51.55 | cynyr | yea.. looks that way... i'll take mount/dismount |
| 23:52.10 | CIA-18 | 03jncl * r30124 10Skinner/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned Postal, Bonuses, KingOfTheJungle; Fixed RABuffs, Lootlink, ACP; Moved Outfitter button; Implemented StatusBar Texture fix |
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| 23:53.50 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30125 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: |
| 23:53.50 | CIA-18 | Cartographer: InstanceNotes: |
| 23:53.51 | CIA-18 | - remove dire maul instance notes since its all 1 map now, nymbia will make some cool new ones |
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| 23:54.50 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 23:56.16 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30126 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: |
| 23:56.16 | CIA-18 | Cartographer: InstanceNotes: |
| 23:56.16 | CIA-18 | - remove SM also |
| 23:58.17 | CIA-18 | 03funkydude * r30127 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps: rotate Zul'Gurub |
