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00:02.02Tullerbleh, I'm going to suck at describing this, cogsbar had a decent description of it :)
00:02.12JJSheetscan you point me there?
00:02.13JJSheets<PROTECTED>
00:03.10Tullerhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5977-CogsBar.html
00:03.12JJSheetsI know I'm kinda on the right track... but it isn't quite working... :)
00:03.15JJSheetsthanks
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00:04.49knarf^JJSheets are you busy or could you point me somewhere to toy around with tooltips? :<
00:05.31JJSheetskinda busy atm... I'd look at GameTooltip on wowwiki.com
00:05.59knarf^thanks :)
00:06.43Tullerthe general idea is statemap -> statebutton -> a button action matching to the state, I think
00:06.50TullerI haven't actually done much with it in a while
00:08.02Tullerso driver:SetAttribute('statemap-stance-1', '1'); button:SetAttribute('statebutton', '1:steath'); button:SetAttribute('action-stealth', id), I think
00:08.53JJSheetsthat's close to what I'm doing... though I think it may be possible that FlexBar2 isn't updating action ids when things change...
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00:12.53Tullerdoes the button itself do what you think it should, even if the icon does not change?
00:13.10JJSheetsgah... okay... Ominous... stance changes aren't going to happen too soon... I need to redesign a lot to get it working... and first I need to decide on the best way to save such state.
00:13.25Ominous:S
00:13.52JJSheetsTuller, I believe it is working, but since the FlexBar2 code isn't updating anything on attribute changed... nothing is qorking right... thanks for the help.  :)
00:14.04JJSheetss/qorking/working/
00:14.33Tulleran easy way to test if you're actually changing something is what happens when you press the button :P
00:15.01JJSheetswell... since it's mapping to a button I don't have an action in it makes sense that it's not doing anything... :)
00:15.28JJSheetsI'll keep plugging away... :)
00:17.07Birdemani[FH]woa, who removed half of the frame layouts from aguf: ?
00:18.24Kirkburn|afkThey're in the Layouts addons
00:18.34Gnarfoz_Birdemani[FH]: ag
00:18.37Gnarfoz_:p
00:18.38Kirkburn|afkShockingly, it's in the changelog :P
00:18.52Birdemani[FH]shockingly i didnt read, what was the reason?
00:19.19Gnarfoz_ability to do so, I guess
00:19.30Kirkburn|afkReduce bloat I guess
00:20.01Kirkburn|afkAiee, I hate it when you subconciously copy someone :P
00:20.12OminousJJ: also if FB2 going to bring in support of bag and micro menu bars
00:21.24JJSheetsOminous, long way off if it's happening... atm I use bartender3 for that.
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00:24.04Kirkburn|afkSo, who here has a Wii and want to give me their Wii code?
00:25.01Kirkburn|afkI'm currently 'stealing' the flat upstairs' internet. 'Stealing' because I told them I am 'testing' the wireless, and long may that continue :)
00:25.13JJSheetsrofl
00:25.25Kirkburn|afkSo come on, someone must have a Wii =)
00:27.13TainOh I was gonna ask that earlier today
00:27.45Tain2511 8814 7116 8256
00:29.50CIA-1803funkydude * r29992 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua:
00:29.50CIA-18BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon:
00:29.51CIA-18- fix deDE
00:30.12CIA-1803archarodim * r29993 10Decursive/ (QuoiDeNeuf.txt WhatsNew.txt):
00:30.12CIA-18Decursive:
00:30.12CIA-18- Updated WhatsNew.txt and QuoiDeNeuf.txt
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00:35.13chuckgWow CogsBar is super small.
00:35.20Kirkburn|afkMine: 6685 6650 2343 4699
00:35.28Kirkburn|afkTain, added you :)
00:36.27Heriohow do I remove something from SVN?
00:36.43HerioI imported to sandbox, not I need to remove it from there and import to the trunk =(
00:36.58Archarodimyou are using TortoiseSVN?
00:37.09Heriono, the cli stuff
00:37.17nymbiasvn del
00:37.38Heriodid that =/ my local copy still thinks its on the sandbox o.O
00:38.03nymbiait probably isnt though. try to update or checkout from it
00:39.08OminousJJ: whats wrong with
00:39.08OminousFlexBar2.Buttons[37]:SetBinding("Shift-Mouse Button 4")
00:39.25JJSheetsnot a clue.  :)
00:39.36JJSheetsI'm ear deep in state header stuff...
00:40.09Herio"svn: MERGE request failed on '/wowace/trunk'" is that normal?
00:40.37Ominousohh so i should stay up :D
00:43.27nymbiaHerio: are you trying to merge your sandbox working copy to trunk?
00:43.39Heriono...
00:43.44JJSheetsOminous, I wouldn't count on it.  :)
00:43.45CIA-1803funkydude * r29994 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua:
00:43.45CIA-18BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane:
00:43.45CIA-18- fear soon timer slightly shorter
00:43.45CIA-18- cancel shedules on take off/fear
00:43.51HerioI've removed it from the sandbox, not I can't import to trunk
00:43.56Herio*now I
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00:44.36HerioI think my local copy thinks its still a check out of the sandbox, how do I fix that >.<
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00:47.32CIA-1803ag * r29995 10ag_UnitFrames/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
00:47.33CIA-18ag_UnitFrames
00:47.33CIA-18<PROTECTED>
00:48.41snurrei should drink less while doing instances
00:48.46JJSheetslol
00:48.54snurrewiped my group like 4 times this steamvault :p
00:49.26TainDrinking heavily is the only way I got through raids.
00:49.35ArcharodimHerio: remove all .svn directories in all subdirs and re-commit everything another solution is to edit the files in the .svn directories to change the path but the first solution is simpler
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00:52.02Kirkburn|afkWho's gonna get r30000?!?!?!?!?!
00:52.12CAL|Smeltnhello
00:52.21CAL|Smeltnquestion.. has oCB been replaced?
00:52.21Kirkburn|afkHello!?!?!?!?!?!? :P
00:52.25CAL|SmeltnI don't see it on the addon list
00:52.36Kirkburn|afkGet cbRipoff
00:52.36snurredidnt we just get 10000 like a month ago?
00:52.54Kirkburn|afkWe hit 20000 almost exactly the same time WoW hit 2.0
00:53.02CAL|Smeltnwhats the difference with ocb and cbripoff?
00:53.07CIA-1803gandharva * r29996 10MountMe/ (Core.lua Libs/ MountMe.toc):
00:53.07CIA-18MountMe:
00:53.07CIA-18- removed PeriodicTable-2.0 from toc and externals
00:53.14Kirkburn|afkIt's oCB before it was removed
00:53.27Kirkburn|afkoCB is being rewritten atm
00:53.35CAL|Smeltnahh
00:53.50Ominoushmm basic question in a for i = 1, 5 do ... end how can you do if i = 3 then carry on to i= 4
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00:55.53TainI added you, it can take a long time to update.
00:58.58JJSheetsOminous:   if i ~= 3 then (do stuff) end
01:00.48Ominousyea was wondering if ther was a nicer way
01:01.01Ominouslike if i==3 then next end or somethinf
01:02.15JJSheetsmight be... check www.lua.org
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01:04.23Kirkburn|afkTain, I tried sending you a msg :)
01:05.43TainMy Wii's mouth just turned blue
01:07.49ag`_hm
01:07.49CIA-1803ag * r29997 10Violation/modules/groupTotalDamage.lua: Violation: Removed group total damage module until it's further developed and the core supports it better :'(
01:07.50ag`_update?
01:07.54ag`_I bet
01:08.05ag`_or someone sent it an email
01:08.24ag`_thanks /cry
01:11.52Kirkburn|afkTain, oooh
01:11.53chutwigarrrrrrrgh
01:12.02chutwigi didn't think it was possible to find a botanica group this bad but here i am
01:12.18Kirkburn|afkHere you are
01:12.31chutwigstaring at thorngrin the ridiculously easy boss for the fourth time
01:12.45chutwigbecause the warrior can't hold aggro against my two dots with five of his sunders
01:12.52chutwigand the priest doesn't know any spells but flash heal
01:13.53Gngngsk:X
01:13.56vhaarrYou know he resets aggro after his hellfire, right?
01:14.01chutwigi know
01:14.04chutwigwhich is why i stopped dotting entirely
01:14.22Gngngskwts intercept+taunt
01:14.24chutwigwait for sunders to go back up, shadow bolt twice, angry demon bearing down on me
01:17.18Kirkburn|afkTain, now would you look at that! Mine's gone blue. I wonder why!
01:17.30Kirkburn|afkBaldie :)
01:18.50TainYeah actually I haven't shaved my head in a couple of months now, but it was razor bald like that.  
01:22.21Kirkburn|afkDon't know why, but I think I knew that for some reason
01:25.57CIA-1803gandharva * r29998 10MountMe/ (Core.lua ItemSwap.lua Libs/ MountMe.toc):
01:25.57CIA-18MountMe:
01:25.57CIA-18- code cleanup
01:25.57CIA-18- removed unneeded externals
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01:30.43JJSheetsooooh
01:30.50JJSheets2 more commits...
01:34.03JJSheets:)
01:34.33Ominousi now have the bars exactly as i want them and a little script to show a quest bar for quest items, so now all i need is stances
01:34.54JJSheetsI'm workin... sheeesh... :)
01:37.40Ominousalso can you run a Omnibus script from a macro
01:41.59Gagorianhmmm
01:42.07GagorianInteresting issue with BabbleSpell
01:42.29JJSheetsOminous, /script Omnibus:RunPageInFolio("pageTitle","folioTitle")
01:42.37Ominousthanks
01:42.40GagorianI use it to get reverse translations.. and in the deDE section there's the following two translations:
01:42.41Gagorian["Revenge"] = "Rache",
01:42.41Gagorian["Vengeance"] = "Rache",
01:43.06GagorianAnd in this case it returns Revenge even if I want Vengeance..
01:43.55GagorianAnyone have another solution except making an exception in translation code?
01:44.54GagorianGah, same problem in the French translation..
01:45.12GagorianGG for blizzard making two different things the same name in localized clients but not enUS
01:45.50vhaarrThat sucks.
01:47.26JJSheets:)
01:47.47GagorianThis problem has annoyed me for two days now.. and when I finally figure it out, it's even more annoying :P
01:47.50sedatedChipmunktoc updates ftw
01:48.34JJSheetsbah
01:48.41Ominous:D
01:48.42JJSheetscommit nothing until I tell you to!
01:48.44JJSheetslol
01:49.00Ominouslol, btw u do know im not seriously hurrying, just joking :p;
01:49.19JJSheetsyes... but I want this to work at least half assed ... :p
01:50.42Ominous:P
01:51.08JJSheetsooooooh I'm on the right track now...
01:51.58CIA-1803rabbit * r29999 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/Modules/Mage.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Mage: Add food/water.
01:52.03CIA-1803rabbit * r30000 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/Modules/Priest.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Priest: Add food/water.
01:52.04JJSheetsyou bastard!
01:52.06vhaarrhah
01:52.08sedatedChipmunklol
01:52.22Ominousrofl
01:52.33JJSheetswell... I guess I'll take my time and get this done right then.. :)
01:52.37Ominousget 3001
01:52.40Ominousthats more special
01:53.13Funkeh`hahahaahah
01:53.17Funkeh`nice one vhaarr
01:53.56CIA-1803rabbit * r30001 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/Modules/Druid.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Druid: Add food/water.
01:53.58vhaarroh
01:53.59JJSheetslol
01:54.01vhaarrWhat was that, 30001?
01:54.15JJSheetsI ain't interested... don't care anymore.  :)
01:54.21JJSheetshave fun committing.  :)
01:54.30vhaarrI'm done now, but yeah it was fun.
01:54.35JJSheetslol
01:54.45Funkeh`30002 gogogoggogo
01:55.05CIA-1803gagorian * r30002 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua Data/Druid.lua):
01:55.05CIA-18DrDamage:
01:55.05CIA-18-Temporary fix to the issue with paladin buff Vengeance and the druid talent Vengeance in localized clients. (BS-2.2 returns 'Revenge' due to two reverse translations for the localized words).
01:55.10Funkeh`hahahaha
01:55.38Gagorian30002!
01:55.51Ominousur just big bullies!
01:56.28Kirkburn|afkNext stop, r33333
01:56.31Gagoriangogogo 40000!
01:56.45Kirkburn|afkMine's cooler
01:56.46JJSheetslol'
01:57.59GagorianSo now /me requests that if there's several reverse translations for a word... it returns them all
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01:58.52Funkeh`lol?
01:58.57JJSheetshehehehe
01:59.01hyperChipmunki owed him one
01:59.06GagorianSooo who's kind enough to modify AceLocale-2.2?
01:59.19ckknightGagorian: not gonna happen :-P
01:59.26ckknightis complex
01:59.32ckknightand the way it's set up, it's not made for that
01:59.40ckknightwell, you could...
01:59.41ckknightI suppose
01:59.43ckknightbut it's complex
01:59.51ckknightso, basically
01:59.53ckknightyou do it
01:59.56JJSheetslol
02:00.11Funkeh`rofl
02:00.30Gagorianwell... well.. well!
02:02.13ckknightactually, I know I could do it, it's just complex and I'm not sure where it'd be used
02:02.36GagorianWell, I'd use it!
02:02.44JJSheetslol obviously.
02:02.49Gagorian:P
02:05.34GagorianI guess it won't affect many translations.. But there's a few that causes trouble. I process some buffs/debuffs/talents/spells from localized clients through reverse translation for ease, then compare them to a buff/debuff/talent name keyed table.
02:06.11GagorianSo, if it returns a reverse translation for something else it won't obviously work
02:11.52OminousJJ its not so close that ittle be done in about 10 mins is it? cos if it is ill stay up if not ill go to bed
02:12.19CIA-1803gandharva * r30003 10MountMe/ (5 files):
02:12.19CIA-18MountMe:
02:12.19CIA-18- more cleanup
02:13.02JJSheetsnah... go to bed dude.
02:13.13Ominousnn, cya tomorrow
02:15.15CIA-1803rabbit * r30004 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Can now hold down the control key to prevent equipping the mount/dismount set.
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02:57.32xyumy coords are messed up.  ugh.
02:57.56xyu7 posts say this npc is at 19,60 in terokkar
02:58.12xyubut he's 20 yards away from that by my coords
02:58.32xyuthis happens for every single quest it seems
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03:03.12Arrowmastersome mods measure cords differently
03:03.22xyuohhh
03:03.27xyui did not know that :D
03:03.35Arrowmasteryeah its perty stupid
03:03.51xyuwell one of the more popular ones is different than carto then :/
03:04.05xyubliz should just standardize it
03:04.13xyushould have been feature from day 1 imo
03:04.31Arrowmasteralthough cords are also innacurate if your only using full numbers
03:04.44xyuyep
03:04.48xyubut not 20y inaccurate :D
03:05.32Arrowmasteri know some mods will round it so 15.6 and 16.4 are both considered 16 while others will trunc it so 15.6 is 15 and 16.4 is 16
03:06.45Arrowmasteractually 20y might be about right
03:06.47xyuah i see
03:06.55Arrowmasterdepends on the zone
03:07.25CIA-1803rabbit * r30005 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/Modules/ (Druid.lua Mage.lua Priest.lua Rogue.lua Warrior.lua): ClosetGnome_Switcher: Some cleanup, I'm having second thoughts about this food/drink thing.
03:09.05hyperChipmunkckknight: if i set tooltipHiddenWhenEmpty on a fubar plugin, it shows the title twice instead
03:09.33boobies4uckknight, what was that hunter addon you said i should try
03:09.35boobies4usomething with Jungle
03:09.40ckknightI'm busy
03:09.43boobies4uWelcomeToTheJungle?
03:09.44boobies4uhaha
03:09.47boobies4usomething like that
03:10.41ArrowmasterNO! they nerfed [Signet of the Violet Tower]
03:10.52vhaarrAll of them?
03:11.07Arrowmastertheres only one
03:11.14vhaarrI don't see why they would nerf it, there are better rings from 5man instances.
03:11.33vhaarrNo, there's one per class.
03:11.39vhaarrerr
03:11.50vhaarrI think, maybe one per "role".
03:11.50Arrowmasterno violet tower is the green one from netherstorm
03:11.56vhaarrwtf
03:12.04vhaarrWhat is the karazhan one called, then?
03:12.31BrunersViolet Signet of the
03:12.42boobies4uof the asshole
03:12.52GagorianViolet Signet for rings before exalted
03:13.04Gagorianand Violet Signet of the ... exalted
03:13.25vhaarr"before exalted", it's such a joke in tbc
03:13.28vhaarrwho isn't exalted?
03:13.29vhaarrheh
03:14.00vhaarr"Violet Signet of the Grand Restorer" is mine called
03:14.07Arrowmastergoing to have to go get my ring of spellpower out of the bank now since they nerfed the signet of the violet tower from 34 +dmg to 29 +dmg
03:14.27vhaarrSpellpower is 33. or 30?
03:14.34Arrowmaster33
03:14.42vhaarrIt's the old one from MC, right?
03:14.47Arrowmasteryeah
03:14.57vhaarrI remember people laughing when that first dropped 2 years ago.
03:15.04vhaarrAnd those same people still use it.
03:15.49GagorianWell my guild stopped doing kara
03:15.58GagorianDid it just for attunements anyway
03:16.36vhaarrTBC nerfed our guild to a 20man guild, so we can't do anything else anyway.
03:17.38vhaarrI suggested we should start killing the 2 mount bosses in ZG, I bet they're 5-mannable now. Hrm, maybe not the tiger boss, since you need 3 tanks.
03:17.53nymbiaa lot of stuff in kz is better than gruul etc
03:18.00todddoes the tiger boss bug still work?
03:18.16vhaarrI don't know, never used any bugs on him.
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03:18.31art3miswhat tiger boss bug?
03:18.31toddhe goes straight to phase 2
03:18.51boobies4uomg
03:18.55boobies4uKing oF the Jungle FTW
03:18.56toddthere are two stumps, you have the group stand on the large on, and someone pull and jump on the small one
03:19.08todddo it 3 times, on the 3rd time, he goes straight to phase 2
03:19.14art3mishaha awesome
03:19.26art3misthats even better than the blood lord stiars platofmr bug
03:19.27CIA-1803hyperactiveChipmunk * r30006 10FuBar_CRDelayFu/ (CHANGELOG CRDelayFu.lua FuBar_CRDelayFu.toc lib/Ace2/):
03:19.27CIA-18FuBar_CRDelayFu: 2.1
03:19.27CIA-18- Updated for DB requirement
03:19.27CIA-18- "No Delay" no longer displayed when value is 0 (text is left blank, instead)
03:19.27CIA-18- svn:keywords fixed, I think
03:19.30vhaarrYou still get the adds, though?
03:19.34toddyeah
03:19.37vhaarrright
03:19.41toddthe tiger adds
03:19.44Brunershow do people find out stuff like that?
03:19.51art3misthat would be an accident
03:20.02art3misstarted off as an aborted joke
03:20.08art3mis3rd timet hey did it it bugged
03:20.20boobies4ubugs ftl
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03:28.36kergothi wish kingofthejungle/pt3 had more foods.
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03:28.41kergothhafl the time i have to feed my pet manually anyway
03:33.09boobies4ucant they make one where u can manualy add your own food
03:35.19Brunersckknight has made one
03:35.31WobWorkkergoth: why not just drop the food on the pet?
03:35.39WobWorkoh duh
03:35.46WobWorkSorry, misread that as 'through the manual' =P
03:35.56BrunersDogChow
03:36.07WobWorkkergoth: Or add the food to pt3 =)
03:36.24kergothi do drop the food ont he pet :)
03:36.32kergothjust saying.. i've been slowing jotting down what foods are missing
03:36.40kergothit didnt realize my boar could eat tender wolf meat, for example
03:38.11boobies4udogchow only accept the meat your char can eat himself
03:38.15boobies4ulike from vendors
03:38.22boobies4uand i paid ckknight to write that addon!
03:38.49boobies4ubut his sexy look was all worth it
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03:45.09Solehi guys
03:45.41Brunersis the Wolfslayer Sniper Rifle http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28581 better than the thrallmar exalted ? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29152
03:45.49Solequick poll, should I refer to the waterfall option frame as the GUI or the 'opts' in my options table
03:46.38SoleBruners: theyre bout equal
03:47.03SoleId take the thrallmar exalted if I was serious about damage
03:47.10SoleId take the rifle coz it looks way cooler
03:47.22Brunersthat about the same ive found out
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03:47.54Solethe hit on the bow makes it more desireable for raiding
03:50.28vhaarrSole: I don't understand the poll.
03:50.46Brunersguess im going to pass on the kara if it drops
03:50.54Solevhaarr: it was a temporary mental retardation, ignore it
03:53.41CIA-1803sole * r30007 10Antagonist/ (9 files in 3 dirs):
03:53.41CIA-18Antagonist:
03:53.41CIA-18- Added Waterfall support. /ant gui to access the GUI.
03:53.41CIA-18- Changed dewdrop console command. Now /ant dropdown.
03:53.41CIA-18- Require new localizations. (marked with a --LOCALIZE at the end of the strings in the locale files, please post on the forum thread).
03:53.49Solewaterfall is freekin cool
03:54.34Brunerswhat makes it so cool ?
03:59.30Solewell for one, Im using it
04:00.09Soletwo, it took me all of 1 min to create a GUI out of my cmdopts table.
04:00.47Soleand everything actually works which is what impresses me ^^
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04:05.59CIA-18Stitch-1.0:
04:05.59CIA-18- Fix a nil error.
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04:07.17CIA-1803sole * r30009 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist: Added Waterfall to OptionalDeps.
04:10.17vhaarrSole: The option table can be local even if it's used with Waterfall.
04:10.25vhaarrYou didn't have to move it to Antagonist.opts
04:10.32Soleahh alright
04:10.39SoleI'll change it tonight
04:10.51vhaarrSole: Also, the gui option needs a hidden = function() return not waterfall end,
04:11.35SoleHOKAY SIR
04:11.42boobies4udamn, this chinese guy is helping me in maraudon, and like, "I not understand english", then i started to chop off words and write crappy and he suddently understood it all
04:12.00Solerofl
04:12.02JJSheetshahahaha
04:14.11Solehmm
04:14.36Solelocal dewdrop = AceLibrary:GetInstance("Dewdrop-2.0") or nil    is the correct way, yes?
04:14.48vhaarrthat will error if the library does not exist
04:15.00Soleif I want to add a hidden = function() return not dewdrop end,
04:15.12vhaarrthe way you did it with waterfall is fine
04:15.26vhaarrlocal x = AceLibrary:HasInstance(x) and AceLibrary:GetInstance(x) or nil
04:16.34Soleok thnx vhaar
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04:21.35CIA-1803sole * r30010 10Antagonist/Antagonist-Options.lua:
04:21.35CIA-18Antagonist:
04:21.35CIA-18- Optimizations and typo fixes with the opts.
04:34.15mjcsup nubs
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04:40.19vhaarryoyo
04:40.34boobies4uyou know you suck dick and should stick to chess when you fail in maraudon at lvl 70 as hunter
04:41.38def9I've got an issue going on with ClearFont2 if anyone wants to take a look at it
04:43.27mjcWTB autobar actually working :(
04:44.14Brunersautobar is working as it should here?
04:44.57def9I can't see my leatherworking or quest tracking when cf2's running ... http://def9.com/cf2problem.jpg
04:45.38Chompershow odd
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04:47.12def9ya I'm stumped. I just tried logging in with nothing but ace2 and cf2 running all other mods off and it still does that
04:47.19Kirkburn|afkdef9, why do you think I have a website and readme :P
04:47.38Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.clearfont.co.uk/readme.html#KnownIssues :)
04:48.06def9<def9> ya I'm stumped. I just tried logging in with nothing but ace2 and cf2 running all other mods off and it still does that
04:48.06def9<Kirkburn|afk> def9, why do you think I have a website and readme :P
04:48.06def9<Kirkburn|afk> http://www.clearfont.co.
04:48.14Kirkburn|afkoops?
04:48.18Chompers:/
04:48.50def9lol hoe'd I miss that . sorry for bothering you guys
04:49.03Kirkburn|afkhehe, np
04:49.12Kirkburn|afkGlad it was something I could help with!
04:49.37Chompersi see no simpleminimap in that picture
04:49.41Chompers:<
04:50.00Chompersor ag_uf
04:50.06Chompers:<
04:50.21def9lol I'm having enough brain farts tonight without adding more mods to the cluster yet :)
04:50.50Brunerssqueenix or simpleminimap, what is the best?
04:51.05Chomperssimpleminimap personally
04:51.27JJSheetssqueenix.  :p
04:51.53JJSheetsbut only cause I'm too lazy to find out if simpleminimap is better.
04:52.11Chomperssame
04:52.17Chompersonly with the opposite addon
04:52.21JJSheetslol
04:52.25Brunershehe
04:52.42Brunerswell, im completly satisfied with squeenix
04:53.37Brunersso if its no major difference i cba to check  :)
04:58.13CIA-1803funkydude * r30012 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua:
04:58.13CIA-18BigWigs: Karazhan/Curator:
04:58.13CIA-18- setting berserk to 10minutes, apparently
04:59.11Chomperswe should be on the curator by now
04:59.21Brunersbut?
04:59.23Chompersdamn romulo
05:00.02Chompershis burst damage is insane
05:00.25boobies4uso is rend
05:00.58Chompersfrom ubrs?
05:01.19vhaarrChompers: Just dispel him.
05:01.25boobies4uyes
05:01.27boobies4urend blackhand
05:01.52Chompersi think i've got it sorted for tomorrow
05:02.03Chompersmade a load of armor pots
05:02.48Chompersand those rune things, forget what they're called
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05:04.50boobies4udemonic rune?
05:05.48Chompersrune of warding/shielding
05:06.44Funkeh`filefront needs to give estimate timers on connections at least 2mb, really who still uses 56k
05:07.17boobies4ulol
05:07.18Funkeh`better argument, who uses 56k and downloads heavy movies from places like ff
05:07.42Chompersdesperate people
05:07.45boobies4ui remember when i downloaded windows 2000 retail on ISDN!
05:07.52Chompers:O
05:07.55Funkeh`lol
05:11.45CIA-1803rabbit * r30013 10BigWigs/Plugins/RaidWarn.lua: BigWigs: RaidWarn: Clarify some options.
05:12.42CIA-1803rabbit * r30014 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua:
05:12.42CIA-18BigWigs: BossBlock:
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05:14.56Brunersno wonder people are using fishbots when fishing is that annoying
05:19.37CIA-1803rabbit * r30015 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: BossBlock: Fixes.
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05:26.47PyrrhusSup all
05:26.56Arrowmasterwhats the "raid boss emote frame"
05:27.06vhaarrIt's the new blizzard boss emote frame.
05:27.14Pyrrhus<< Havent seen it :)
05:27.20Arrowmasterneither have i
05:27.27vhaarrIf you've done karazhan, you've seen it.
05:27.34Arrowmasterdone karazhan
05:27.37Pyrrhuswhen did it hit?
05:27.38Arrowmasternot seen it
05:27.40vhaarror some of the 5man dungeons as well.
05:27.45vhaarryou've seen it, you just haven't noticed it
05:27.54PyrrhusWell I have custom chat boxes..
05:27.55Pyrrhusso..
05:28.01Pyrrhusemotes are in one of em lol
05:28.03vhaarrIt's not part of the chat.
05:28.15Pyrrhus>.<
05:28.28Pyrrhusdo you have to turn on in the UI options?
05:28.35PyrrhusCause I have seen anything diff on screen
05:28.36vhaarrNo, it's not toggleable.
05:28.48Arrowmasterwhats the frame name
05:28.50Funkeh`have you done nightbane?
05:28.56PyrrhusDid full clr of Kaz few days ago.. and did Gruul yesterday
05:28.58PyrrhusYea
05:29.07Pyrrhuswell attempted gruul yesterday lol
05:29.11Pyrrhusunsuccessfully
05:29.15Funkeh`a big messages on the screen when he takes off says nightbane takes a deep breath
05:29.21vhaarrArrowmaster: RaidBossEmoteFrame
05:29.48Pyrrhusdont remember anything outside of my DeadlyBoss mods message..
05:29.54Fisker-:o
05:29.57Pyrrhushm
05:30.00vhaarrThis isn't DBM.
05:30.02vhaarrThis is BW.
05:30.10vhaarrMaybe they block it already.
05:30.10Pyrrhusbw?
05:30.19Funkeh`lol?
05:30.24Funkeh`did you read the commit message?
05:30.31Pyrrhusnope lmao
05:30.35Funkeh`grats
05:30.39Pyrrhuswoohoo\
05:30.40Fisker-LAMAO!
05:30.42Pyrrhuslol
05:30.48Pyrrhus<< Lost as all hell
05:31.34Pyrrhuswe talking about this new emote frame right? lol
05:32.04Pyrrhusanyways...... ;)  Gruul was at 32% yesterday no consumables..
05:32.08Funkeh`no
05:32.17Funkeh`we were talking about bigwigs supressing the new emote frame
05:32.24PyrrhusFunkeh`: ahhh
05:33.57Arrowmasterah found the RaidBossEmoteFrame frame and its directly under my sct message frame which i have witchhunt sending stuff too so thats probably why ive never seen it
05:34.20vhaarrindeed, it's easily confused with other message frames
05:34.27vhaarranyway, the end result is that you'll have less spam now
05:34.33Funkeh`indeed
05:35.09PyrrhusYea im probably confusing it with one of my addons as well..
05:35.13CIA-1803rabbit * r30017 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Shadikith.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan: Remove Shadikith module, since it is not implemented.
05:35.51CIA-1803rabbit * r30018 10BigWigs/SC/ (Karathress.lua Leotheras.lua Morogrim.lua Vashj.lua): BigWigs: SC: Remove unimplemented modules.
05:38.39CIA-1803funkydude * r30019 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Karazhan/BigWigs_Karazhan.toc): BigWigs: remove skadikith from toc's, like it needs a module
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05:51.08VelkynAnyone know how to make Decursive work?
05:51.17VelkynI have it installed, and I set the macro to a key binding
05:51.36CIA-1803rabbit * r30020 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: BossBlock: Also check if the module is running or not before blocking.
05:51.48VelkynBut when I mouse over either the Targetunitframe or the "muf"and use the macro its not working...
05:51.48Funkeh`no idea, ive always used grid and a keybinding fro dispelling
05:58.02Fisker-some npc puked on me :(
05:59.00JJSheetsgrats?
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06:01.15cncfanatics~seen JJSheet
06:01.42purlcncfanatics: i haven't seen 'jjsheet'
06:01.42cncfanatics~seen JJSheets
06:01.47purljjsheets is currently on #wowace (1h 55m 42s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 2m 47s, last said: 'grats?'.
06:01.47JJSheetsright here
06:01.47cncfanaticswas yesterday's bug fixed mate ?
06:01.47JJSheetsyup
06:01.48cncfanaticswhat was it ?
06:01.57JJSheetsand I've done a crap ton of work on secure state headers.
06:02.12JJSheetsbug was group dragging ignoring locked buttons and such
06:02.22JJSheetsI added a lock group function pair
06:02.31cncfanaticshmmmm, it ignored it ?
06:02.33cncfanaticsweird
06:03.15JJSheetsalso, with groups enabled... buttons would drag anyway, so I added a check in buttons as well... may not be quite correct for saved state... but should be easy to fix if not.
06:03.38cncfanaticswell, locking shld just go thru groups
06:03.42cncfanaticsgoing now, cya
06:03.47JJSheetshowever... I have some stance changes to test and then I want to commit a change to 80% of the files.  :)
06:03.50JJSheetsbah
06:04.23PyrrhusQuick question for you guys.. anyone use Trinity bars?
06:04.30Funkeh`'Amanda Tapping joins the Stargate Atlantis cast for Season Four.'
06:04.36Funkeh`goodie
06:05.11Funkeh`now they take everyone from sg1 and shove in atlantis lol, so hate they killed sg1 >.>
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06:05.44Fisker-Anyone know which addon that splits a stack by alt+rightclick?
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06:08.30vhaarrFunkeh`: And the others?
06:11.30Diabolic-Destinywhats better fishing ace or fishing buddy>?
06:12.13Brunersfishingace + cartographer_fishing > fishing buddy
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06:15.06Funkeh`vhaarr, dunno, only her thats stated
06:20.50Kirkburn|afkAnyone got a Wii code they want to share?
06:21.29CIA-1803rabbit * r30021 10BigWigs/ (82 files in 11 dirs):
06:21.29CIA-18BigWigs:
06:21.29CIA-18<PROTECTED>
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06:22.05Funkeh`i have a ps3 i want to share in a few months
06:26.01CIA-1803rabbit * r30022 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Use a passing group.
06:29.44ChompersFunkeh`, its time for sg1 to die
06:29.58Funkeh`lies
06:30.02Chompersits had one good run
06:30.07Funkeh`:(
06:30.16Chompersall good things must come to an end :<
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06:30.45Chomperstime to watch ep 18 of battlestar, night
06:31.02vhaarrdid they unsuck BSG yet?
06:31.16vhaarrgod, the first episodes of S3 are teh suck
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06:32.14Funkeh`think ive seen 1 ep of bsg in my life
06:32.28Funkeh`maybe i should try watch it sometime
06:35.34vhaarrs1 and 2 rock
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06:42.05shieldback, why'd ag delete a bunch of the raid layouts? :(
06:42.35vhaarrhe moved them
06:42.40vhaarrto aUF_Layouts
06:42.54shieldbdifferent addon, then?
06:43.13shieldbaha
06:43.56shieldbthat'll teach me to update all my addons right before a raid without reading the changelogs in detail!
06:44.08vhaarrWill it?
06:44.15shieldbFor at least FIVE minutes
06:44.18vhaarr:P
06:44.25shieldblonger then that I cannot guarentee
06:44.54Cryecthaha
06:45.06Cryect[02:31] <vhaarr> god, the first episodes of S3 are teh suck
06:45.16CryectYeah they were :(
06:45.20vhaarr:/
06:45.23vhaarrDoes it get better?
06:45.26vhaarrI just stopped watching.
06:45.27CryectI don't know if they unsucked them
06:45.28CryectSame
06:45.32vhaarrokay
06:45.42CryectI could really care less about them being on a damn planet
06:45.47vhaarrindeed
06:46.07CryectI understood for the show to continue they needed to do something just didn't expect them to be there forever
06:46.11vhaarrand the whole "peace and trying to co-exist" thing is a piece of crap
06:46.15Cryectyep
06:46.25Funkeh`shieldb>that'll teach me to update all my addons right before a raid without reading the changelogs in detail!
06:46.27Funkeh`lol
06:46.37CryectWho reads the changelogs really before updating
06:46.40Funkeh`i used to do that frequently
06:46.42Funkeh`now i cba
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06:46.48vhaarrask *any* advertiser, and he'll tell you that trying to promote piece is not a good recipe for TV
06:46.52CryectGoodness it would take me like an hour or so if I read them all
06:46.57vhaarrpeace*
06:47.11Funkeh`cryect thats why god invented track and cia
06:47.16Funkeh`for keeping track!
06:47.18Cryectbtw Funkeh` if you are going to watch them make sure you watch like several at a time
06:47.28Funkeh`lol?
06:47.32Cryectof BSG
06:47.50Funkeh`ill be lucky to download the old seasons
06:48.16CryectShrug I just found a torrent one day because I heard something about them and loved the miniseries so downloaded the rest
06:48.37CIA-1803herio * r30024 10Cartographer_Mailboxes/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer_Mailboxes: Initial commit.
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06:48.47vhaarrhaha
06:48.49vhaarrisn't that useless
06:48.51CryectGoodness someone decied to add a mailbox thing
06:48.54Herioha... ha?
06:48.59Cryectthats the last thing I wanted to see on my maps
06:49.00Funkeh`oh cmon
06:49.09vhaarrIf you can't remember where the mailboxes are, you've got other problems on your hands.
06:49.11HerioI missed my first commit message shoutout =(
06:49.18Herio<PROTECTED>
06:49.19Cryecthaha
06:49.29Heriothere are so many of those things all over the place =P
06:49.31Cryectdid you really forget where mailboxes were? :-p
06:49.32Funkeh`useful mod imo
06:49.40Funkeh`the amount of fucking mailboxes in shatt..
06:49.41shieldbhmm.. does xpbarnone have the option to set it as "super depressing mode" for experience?
06:49.53Funkeh`can't keep track of them all!
06:49.56shieldbby that I mean the left side of the bar is 0 experience at level 1, the right end of the bar is "you just hit level 70"
06:50.01Herioyeah, there's a lot
06:50.25HerioI'm going to need to have a preloading database with all of em, and load only your factions one ^_^
06:50.31hyperChipmunkrofl
06:50.31Cryectthey are either in the banks by the inns or well thats it
06:50.34hyperChipmunkthat'd be awesome
06:50.42Funkeh`man im bored, been sucking this 'beechams all in one' shit all day, anti cold thing
06:50.44ckknightshieldb: that'd be funny
06:50.44Herioafter I figure out these externals...
06:50.56shieldbthere was a mod that convereted the blizzard bar to that back in like 1.7 or 1.6, but I think it stopped getting updated and vanished at some point
06:51.05shieldbit was awesome because your bar would NEVER EVER move while you were playing
06:51.19hyperChipmunkyea, but it'd be epic
06:51.20shieldbplus you could see if you were actually 'halfway' to the cap
06:51.33Funkeh`i miss my old priest mod
06:51.37Funkeh`can't remember the name
06:51.40Funkeh`when i was leveling
06:51.46Funkeh`it printed messages when you got him
06:51.46hyperChipmunkyou'd get a real sense of character growth
06:51.54Funkeh`I AM BEING HIT TAKE THE F AGRO OFF ME
06:52.27Funkeh`that was my comeback to everyopne using commos
06:52.31Funkeh`cosmos*
06:52.34Funkeh`HEAL ME
06:52.43Herioyou'd have to have it XP at different level ranges worth different amounts of bar length =P
06:53.01Heriolike 50-60 xp goes slower then 60-70 >.>
06:53.20Cryectyeah it does
06:53.20vhaarrno
06:53.28Cryector it feels that way
06:53.30Funkeh`i agree
06:53.35Cryectsince I've seen that content too much
06:53.37vhaarrit is faster, but the mod should not do that
06:53.50Herioyeah, you get XP really fast in outlands
06:53.57Funkeh`my warrior is 53, its definately a hell lot more boring, im trying to get to 60 as fast as possible to get out of the nightmare that is azeroth
06:54.07Heriothey designed the leveling content much better then in azeroth
06:54.08vhaarrFunkeh`: You can move out as 58.
06:54.15Funkeh`oh goodie
06:54.26vhaarrOf course, you can get summoned out any time you want.
06:54.32vhaarrBut you can move through the portal then.
06:55.08Herioyeah, but you can't do too much until around 60 =/
06:55.11CryectCurious if you were using a graphing library what functions would you expect to be in it (trying to see if I'm forgetting anything obvious)
06:55.25Heriounless you want to grind helboars for two whole levels
06:55.38Funkeh`herio, thats basically what i just did
06:55.48Cryectbasically what you do in Azeroth
06:55.49Herioa friend of mine did that last week
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06:55.55Cryectlast 10 levels are a lot of grinding
06:56.02Funkeh`yeah
06:56.06Heriohe said that he got from 58 to 60 faster then any two levels after 40 >.<
06:56.24Funkeh`im usually raiding in the evening so the only time i have for my alt is after than, when you can't get groups!
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06:56.58Cryect58-60 isn't bad after they finished silithus via quests
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06:57.32DhragaMorning all
06:57.39CryectMorning
06:59.05Fisker-might as well do 58-70 in outlands
06:59.23Funkeh`yeah
06:59.23CryectHmmm before I write code to do linear regression is there any such library that already implements it?
07:00.57Dhragaany ag_Uf users here atm ?
07:01.22Cryectsure
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07:02.41Fisker-Anyone know which addon that splits a stack by alt+rightclick?
07:03.00DhragaHmm doesnt KCI do that ?
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07:03.21poptixFisker-: auctioneer
07:03.29NickenyfikenFence do it i think
07:03.32Fisker-Anyone know a good buff display addon other than Elkano's?
07:03.39NickenyfikenBuffalo
07:03.52Fisker-i'll try it out
07:03.59Nickenyfikenbut that has no bars
07:04.04Fisker-that's what i want
07:04.04Fisker-:P
07:04.11Nickenyfiken:-P
07:04.16Fisker-bars take up too much space imo
07:04.20Cryectagreed
07:04.54Nickenyfikenwell Buffalo let's you move the buffs and change some things
07:05.42PyrrhusI like Elkano's
07:05.52Pyrrhusbut than again I go for the real clean looking ui
07:05.57Pyrrhussleak..
07:06.36Pyrrhusanyone got screenshots of your UI?
07:06.55CIA-1803herio * r30025 10Cartographer_Mailboxes/Libs/: Cartographer_Mailboxes - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)
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07:07.24Heriohope that does the trick... night for me >.>
07:07.34Cryectnight
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07:07.46Nickenyfikenhmm i never tried InBed
07:08.03PyrrhusCan you guys check my UI out and give me any tips/suggestion? :)
07:08.04Pyrrhushttp://www.levelsixtynine.com/uiscreen.jpg
07:08.39kergothcart mailboxes could be useful, but only if you can hide all the world map notes while still being able to generate a waypoint to the nearest one.. or have its filter automatically only show the ones within a certain # of yards of you or something
07:08.40CryectYou use CTRaid and Grid?
07:08.53vhaarrGet rid of CTRA/DBM.
07:08.57Cryectyeah
07:09.18PyrrhusDBM.. but why get rid of it? :)
07:09.26Pyrrhusand no grid
07:09.43Cryectoh whatever that thing that looks like grid kinda in the lower right :-p
07:09.55NickenyfikenUse the same texture everywhere :-P
07:10.07vhaarr!SurfaceControl
07:10.13CryectSize the left & right boxes so they are the same size
07:10.23Cryectits bugs me kinda the stuff in the center isn't center
07:10.36CryectBut guess not you
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07:10.45Pyrrhusthey off that bad?
07:10.51CryectPretty bad
07:10.53Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/currentui.jpg
07:10.54Fisker-mine
07:11.04Fisker-nevermind the Elkano buffbars as i'm changing to buffalo :P
07:11.05Pyrrhusk ill tweak that in a bit
07:11.53Fisker-haven't really seen a raid so i'm not any expert on grid yet
07:11.53vhaarrlol fisk
07:12.03Pyrrhusdamn fisk nuff adds?
07:12.05vhaarr100 FBPs, at least
07:12.11Cryectheh my current UI I'm looking at is awful though since its some random lowbie alt I use when coding and I have a graph in the middle of my screen http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6697/gridtestin7.jpg
07:12.18Fisker-yeah
07:12.30vhaarrCryect: What is that graph?
07:12.43Cryectits a test routine for my Graphing Library
07:12.48kergothneat
07:12.48vhaarrGive.
07:12.57vhaarrViolation will get support instantly.
07:13.03vhaarrCryect: Put it in the SVN!
07:13.07kergothviolation graphing will kick ass
07:13.10Fisker-but i only have 11 standalone fubar_* directory :P
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07:13.19vhaarrFisker-: I hear ya :P
07:13.24CryectWell if you read your PM I sent you a while ago I've been waiting on a response to my request for SVN access for over 3 weeks now ;)
07:13.43CryectProlly should send in another email but haven't bothered
07:13.47Fisker-might as well disable all the other crap since niagara can config for me now
07:13.47vhaarrCryect: I have recieved no PM from you.
07:14.00hyperChipmunkyou have to be registered to PM
07:14.02PyrrhusHey fisk..
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07:14.04Pyrrhussuggestion?
07:14.06vhaarrIndeed.
07:14.07Fisker-?
07:14.19Pyrrhusput the aura and most buffs on a hidden bar :)
07:14.25Pyrrhussomething that pops up when you mouse it
07:14.36vhaarrthat's a silly idea
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07:14.45Cryectoh do you on freenode, not normally here except for this channel or talking to some old friends from college in another channel
07:14.56Pyrrhusvhaarr: whys it silly?
07:15.16Fisker-how can i do that?
07:15.16vhaarrbecause knowing what buffs you have is important some times
07:15.17PyrrhusWell I use trinity
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07:15.22vhaarrI heard that trinity is a piece of shit.
07:15.26vhaarrI've never looked at it myself, though.
07:15.30Pyrrhusnono vhaarr.. on a hidden bar like on my screen..
07:15.40Pyrrhusright side I have a 2 wide verticle bar
07:15.46Pyrrhuswith all my other crap on it
07:15.54Funkeh`bt3 + cycircled = trinity
07:15.56Pyrrhusbut its hidden.. unless I mouse over it :)
07:16.01Cryecttrinity is decent has a tendency to error out a lot when you are in combat and something is trying to change the bars for no reason but buggrabber hides them
07:16.03NickenyfikenBartender can hide bars too
07:16.09kergothhttp://covenant.kergoth.com/images/wow_82.jpg is my current setup
07:16.35Pyrrhuswell if bartender can.. fisk you might wanna look into it.
07:16.36Pyrrhusthan
07:16.57Pyrrhusyou could clr up some of the button left side and shrink the enitre button/chat/combat section down
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07:17.19CryectHere's a day old build though of my Graph Library http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/GraphLib/GraphLib.html missing gridlines and the code I've started working on for scatter plots
07:17.30Pyrrhuskergoth: I has the tooltip thing on your UI there and hated it hehe
07:17.41Pyrrhushad*
07:18.10Pyrrhusquestion.. does monkeyquest auto expand?
07:19.19ckknighthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=82043618&sid=1
07:19.25Fisker-I think i'll remove eavesdrop actually
07:19.43vhaarrhttp://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ui1kh8.jpg is what mine looks like right now, but it's always in limbo
07:19.46Fisker-then i can fit my map down there :P
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07:20.50Fisker-Anyone know how to disable kc_items alt+click to split a stack?
07:21.00Fisker-rightclick*
07:21.38PyrrhusFisker-: whats evesdrop and where is it onscreen?
07:21.41sedatedChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/hcui.png
07:21.54Fisker-bottom right
07:21.58Fisker-kinda simplified combatlog
07:22.01vhaarrhc: can't connect to that IP
07:22.05sedatedChipmunkoops, forgot to start httpd
07:22.06sedatedChipmunkyea
07:22.08sedatedChipmunktry again
07:22.09Pyrrhusok thought it was simplecombatlog lol
07:22.20JoshBorkeCryect: what do yout hink about using StatusBars instead of Textures for the realtime graph?
07:22.30Fisker-They both do the same thing i think
07:23.15CryectWhy status bars?
07:23.27CryectStatus bars is just a complex frame with textures built in them
07:24.14CryectCurious to hear your idea, just went on the implementation I did back in CombatGraph long time ago
07:24.51Funkeh`ill dig up my 2 month old pic then
07:25.16sedatedChipmunkhm, no buffs on in that shot
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07:25.30Funkeh`http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3013/wowscrnshot020407185919sy5.jpg
07:25.32sedatedChipmunkok, replaced with one that shows buffs too =)
07:25.37sedatedChipmunksame url
07:25.41JoshBorkeCryect: from the testing I did, using SetValue on a status bar was faster than using SetHeight on a texture because there is no recalculation needed for the status bar where as set height forces wow to check all the points on each texture to make sure nothing is SetPointed to it
07:26.01Fisker-Your choice of alliance sickens me
07:26.04Fisker-and you should feel bad
07:26.04Fisker-:P
07:26.13Funkeh`O_o
07:26.14Cryectheh thats interesting JoshBorke
07:26.26PyrrhusHye funk..
07:26.59PyrrhusFunkeh`: No raid bars as a priest... seems like you only watch MT's thats not cool lol
07:26.59sedatedChipmunkhow do you guys deal with all that stuff on the screen
07:27.03CryectThough I have a feeling if anything impacts the performance its going to be the convolution being performed every frame
07:27.11PyrrhussedatedChipmunk: what calss you play?
07:27.13Funkeh`what are you talking about
07:27.15Funkeh`i have grid
07:27.17vhaarrPyrrhus: You need new glasses.
07:27.28PyrrhusFunkeh`: Ahh you have a tiny set of bars lol
07:27.32JoshBorkeCryect: also, you might want to consider minimizing your table lookups, it'll help a lot
07:27.38Funkeh`i don't need a massive set of bars
07:27.41sedatedChipmunkPyrrhus: it's pretty obvious from the SS =x
07:27.43PyrrhusFunkeh`: I like that.. what bars are those/
07:27.44sedatedChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/hcui.png
07:27.59Funkeh`as in actionbars?
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07:28.16PyrrhussedatedChipmunk: that pic not loading for me :(
07:28.23PyrrhusFunkeh`: no the raid frames
07:28.26JoshBorkesedatedChipmunk: those are some tiny buttons you got there
07:28.29Funkeh`thats grid
07:28.34vhaarrFunkeh`: Is that an old screenshot, or, hm, what is your spec there?
07:28.40Funkeh`im holy disc there
07:28.42vhaarrFunkeh`: My flash heals crit for 3.5k
07:28.48vhaarryours crit for 2.4
07:28.50Funkeh`no
07:28.53Funkeh`im holy dps there
07:28.57vhaarrright
07:29.00sedatedChipmunki don't need to see 'em; the action bar only there when moused over, even
07:29.07Funkeh`thats why i got surge of light
07:29.07sedatedChipmunki already know what's on 'em =P
07:29.12vhaarrah
07:29.15vhaarrignored that one
07:29.26Funkeh`its way way back when we first started gruuls lair
07:29.35Funkeh`i will get one of us in sc :p
07:29.41Funkeh`but im mainaly shadow these days
07:29.46Funkeh`mainly*
07:29.48PyrrhusStill not loading for me sed
07:29.56sedatedChipmunkPyrrhus: http://69.14.77.214/hcui.jpg
07:30.03PyrrhusFunkeh`: you kill gruul successfully non bugged yet?
07:30.05vhaarrhc: lern2usejpeg2k
07:30.11Funkeh`yes
07:30.19Funkeh`i have never seen him bugged
07:30.21Pyrrhusany tips? :)
07:30.28Funkeh`shift+v
07:30.30PyrrhusYea we killed him last week bugged for us :)
07:30.47Funkeh`health indicators appear when people are too close
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07:30.53Pyrrhusyesterday got him to 32% without consumables
07:31.03Pyrrhushmm great idea
07:31.11Pyrrhusreally great idea  never thought of it hehe
07:31.19JoshBorkethey have about a 20 yard range ;-)
07:31.21PyrrhusWe tried something yesterday... didnt work..
07:31.27Pyrrhusbasically
07:31.31Pyrrhuswas thinking.
07:31.32vhaarrCryect: I WANT LIB
07:31.37Funkeh`lol vhaarr
07:31.37vhaarr~seen kaelten
07:32.06purlkaelten <n=kaelten@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15h 10m 32s ago, saying: 'I rather be a little cool than hot all the time'.
07:32.06Pyrrhusthat if we got in all spread out..
07:32.06Pyrrhuswhen ground slam occures..
07:32.06Pyrrhusyou would all land spread out..
07:32.06Pyrrhusdidnt work lol
07:32.06Pyrrhus:)
07:32.06Funkeh`no its rpetty random
07:32.12Pyrrhusyea :/
07:32.14Funkeh`you gotta be quick thinking
07:32.15Funkeh`look where your gonna land
07:32.18Funkeh`whilst your still in the air
07:32.20Pyrrhuswell
07:32.22Funkeh`and who else is gonna land there
07:32.23Pyrrhusim a mage so ;0
07:32.26Pyrrhuseasy for me
07:32.37PyrrhusI can go anywhere
07:32.41Pyrrhusplus mana shield
07:32.43Pyrrhusso.. :)
07:32.52Pyrrhusbut yea last week..
07:32.56Pyrrhuswe walked in first attempt..
07:33.02sedatedChipmunkvhaarr: O_o are you blind or something?
07:33.04Pyrrhusgot to like 85% without a slam..
07:33.08vhaarrsedatedChipmunk: wut?
07:33.09Pyrrhuswas wondering hmmmmmm
07:33.10nuoHep_its completely random. and sometimes its just bad luck when 4 healers land in the exact same spot
07:33.14Pyrrhuskept going no slam
07:33.19vhaarrsedatedChipmunk: ah
07:33.19Pyrrhus65% we popped consumables..
07:33.20sedatedChipmunkhuuuuuuge text
07:33.24Pyrrhusgruul hit 19 grows
07:33.28vhaarrsedatedChipmunk: Well, your first link was png, was it not?
07:33.29PyrrhusMT survived :)
07:33.37sedatedChipmunkyes
07:33.37Pyrrhus21k hp lol
07:33.38Funkeh`heh
07:33.43vhaarrsedatedChipmunk: right, that's the one I loaded
07:33.46Pyrrhus1 sec I got a screenie somewhere
07:33.49sedatedChipmunkoh no
07:33.50vhaarr(and it took ages)
07:33.52sedatedChipmunki meant your UI
07:33.56vhaarrah
07:33.57vhaarrlol
07:34.04Funkeh`if we ever had him bugged me and a few others would wipe the raid on purpose
07:34.06sedatedChipmunkthe jpg was just converted from the png
07:34.08vhaarrsedatedChipmunk: On the unit frames, you mean?
07:34.15sedatedChipmunkeverywhere
07:34.17Funkeh`probably not not that we killed him since its no 'first'
07:34.24Funkeh`but ive never seen him bugged
07:34.25sedatedChipmunkit's like
07:34.26vhaarrsedatedChipmunk: Well, I'm a healer, I don't need to see the world anyway.
07:34.31sedatedChipmunkheeeeeeeeeeyoooooooj
07:34.45Funkeh`wouldn't look good on the fraps ;)
07:35.06vhaarrsedatedChipmunk: I agree it's a bit large, but that's how I like it, so :P
07:35.07nuoHep_Funkeh`, we were bugging him on purpose on our second kill. SC attunements ftl :/
07:35.26sedatedChipmunkvhaarr: well i'm better than you
07:35.30vhaarrsedatedChipmunk: okay
07:35.34Funkeh`you cna bug him on purpose?
07:35.35sedatedChipmunkso double->8p
07:35.37Funkeh`can*
07:35.39nuoHepyeah
07:35.40Pyrrhuscan you bug him on purpose??? we just ran in and he was bugged lol
07:35.47vhaarrthe party/raid frames are not that big, though
07:35.51vhaarrjust player/target
07:35.56Funkeh`wierd
07:36.01sedatedChipmunkthat bar is enormous =)
07:36.04vhaarr:D
07:36.16Funkeh`were gonna kill him again and then basically forget him
07:36.19Pyrrhuslol 19 grows...
07:36.20Pyrrhushttp://www.levelsixtynine.com/images/gruul.gif
07:36.20nuoHepi dont know how exactly. but our hunters can bug him while the trash respawns
07:36.42Pyrrhusmakes no sense..
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07:37.03Funkeh`how did so man ypeople die if he was bugged
07:37.05sedatedChipmunkit's like
07:37.11Pyrrhuswe didnt have any respawns.. cleared stright through rebuffed.. and charged in and he was bugged :/
07:37.17sedatedChipmunk"GEE I WONDER HOW LONG BEFORE MY CHEAPSHOT WEARS OFF"
07:37.20Pyrrhusheroic strike.. lol
07:37.22Pyrrhusits all melee
07:37.27Pyrrhus1 shot melee
07:37.28Funkeh`lol
07:37.40Pyrrhuswas hitting MT for like 18k
07:37.58Funkeh`anyway moff
07:38.01Funkeh`gn folks
07:38.03Pyrrhuslata man
07:38.09Pyrrhusany final suggestions?
07:38.16Loki|muhPyrrhus: whats this on your bar at key2? haven't seen that icon on my hunter ;)
07:38.18sedatedChipmunki'm out, too
07:38.20nuoHepPyrrhus, well dunno. it has something to do with aggroing the trash while Gruul is engaged and fding.
07:38.31nuoHepsomthing like this
07:38.39PyrrhusLoki|muh:not my screenshot..
07:38.45Loki|muhah
07:38.47Pyrrhusim the one in guild chat... going woootototo lol
07:38.56sedatedChipmunkprobably a trinket
07:39.07Loki|muhic ;)
07:39.10sedatedChipmunkor his attack
07:39.15sedatedChipmunkattack shows weapon icon
07:39.25sedatedChipmunkisn't that one of the bows?
07:39.26PyrrhusWas funny though we had 2 mages get 1 shotted by cave in :)
07:39.52Pyrrhuscould be a macro
07:39.54Pyrrhusnot sure
07:39.54JoshBorkeCryect: be careful with SLOW mode of your convolution, 1 table OnUpdate can get kinda hairy
07:40.35PyrrhusAnyone else here fight gruul yet?
07:40.53Cryectyeah, potential n^2 operations aren't the type of thing I like to do per frame
07:41.03PyrrhusnuoHep: does that make gruul evade?
07:41.04CryectI have an idea in mind for reducing it to constant time
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07:41.34sedatedChipmunknight lewzerz
07:41.39Pyrrhuslata :)
07:41.40vhaarrnight nub
07:41.44Pyrrhusnooblet
07:41.45CryectJust involving caching the data and shifting it over since only a small part changes
07:42.01Cryectwell its not constant time its linear time dependent on how much data fed to it
07:42.10vhaarrCryect: Step #1: SVN. Step #2: Optimize!
07:42.13vhaarrimo
07:42.19nuoHepPyrrhus, well we bugged him this way. no hatefuls no slams
07:42.30nuoHepmaybe not exact *this* way
07:42.52vhaarrCryect: Seriously, you must read the wiki about how to get a SVN account.
07:42.58vhaarrCryect: I can't help you.
07:43.05Fisker-You're missing the Profit step and the ??? step
07:43.10vhaarrah, dammit
07:43.25vhaarr1. SVN
07:43.27vhaarr2. ???
07:43.29vhaarr3. Profit!
07:43.32vhaarrdeal?
07:43.42JJSheetswhere's Optimize then?
07:43.43JJSheetslol
07:43.52vhaarrit's part of ???
07:43.58vhaarr:(
07:43.59JJSheetsbah
07:44.06nuoHepbut it certainly connected to: trash, fd, engaged gruul
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07:45.18Fisker-lame anti-flying mount guard system
07:46.16Fisker-anyone know a guide for getting the second keyfragment as duo?
07:46.31Pyrrhusumm the one in shadow labs?
07:46.34Pyrrhusor alcha?
07:46.36Pyrrhusarca
07:46.51CryectSecond Key Frament is Steamvaults
07:46.52vhaarrSteamvaults.
07:47.02vhaarrIt's simple, just stealth to the water and dive in.
07:47.03Fisker-i know
07:47.06Fisker-well
07:47.09Fisker-i'm a paladin
07:47.09Cryectnot sure if you could really duo it, stealhing is eays
07:47.21Cryectyou could tank and spank a lot of the parts
07:47.24Fisker-they added a guard to the key now
07:47.28vhaarrFisker-: Then you'll aggro no matter what.
07:47.32Fisker-to prevent people SPLOITING
07:47.32Cryectjust goingto take a while
07:47.35Pyrrhuswell
07:47.38vhaarrFisker-: So you'll have to DS and run.
07:47.39Pyrrhusone in shadow labs
07:47.43Pyrrhusis behind murmer lol
07:47.45vhaarrFisker-: And use SS.
07:47.57CryectJust run steamvaults?
07:48.06vhaarrOr that :>
07:48.48Fisker-anyone got a mark on a map or something like that?
07:49.03Cryectits in the water right next to the first boss
07:49.05vhaarr1. Run to water.
07:49.09vhaarr2. Dive in.
07:49.11vhaarr3. Turn left.
07:49.14vhaarrand there it is
07:49.15Cryectfarthest western part on the bottom of the water
07:49.25Fisker-Went to water: It wasn't a place where i could dice :P
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07:51.06DhragaIs the steamvault fragment still solo able ? I think I read that bliz put in a elite pop next to it to prevent solo runs
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07:51.30vhaarrYou can solo it if you really want.
07:51.34vhaarrIt's a normal elite mob.
07:51.38Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/steamvault.jpg
07:51.41Fisker-is it there?
07:51.57vhaarryes
07:52.01vhaarrlike 2cm more north
07:52.05vhaarrin the corner
07:53.12Cryectoh whoops yeah North >_> heh been a while since I've done steamvaults
07:54.33Pyrrhusyea right in that pool of water
07:54.40Pyrrhusat the bottom
07:55.48Navvanyone good with multicast stuffs, mainly IGMP?
07:56.30Pyrrhussorry :(
07:56.51Dhragabtw, how many are affected by the party pet health not updating correctly ?
07:57.21Pyrrhuswell on my mage..
07:57.26PyrrhusI dont show pet bars..
07:57.37Pyrrhuson my priest.. I dont show pet bars because I dont usually heal pets :)
07:57.46Dhragahehe =)
07:57.46Pyrrhusso cant help ya sorry :(
07:57.55Pyrrhuspets are disfunctional lol
07:58.00Pyrrhusand expendable
07:58.31Dhraganp, I'm mostly wondering if the pet health bug is a bliz bugg or something a coder must circumvent
07:58.34Cryectshould heal pets especially in 5 mans, raids whatever
07:58.42Diabolic-Destinyservers down?
07:59.48PyrrhusCryect: uhh no
08:00.37Aelielpets should get healed if you have the mana to spare and they're doing something important... or at least that's my opinion ./shrug
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08:01.38Fisker-yay
08:01.43Fisker-invisibillity + divine shield worked
08:01.47Fisker-now i just need one to ress me :P
08:01.57Pyrrhuslmao
08:02.19PyrrhusAeliel: only if actually tanking a mob..
08:02.23DhragaIf I'm half a zone away from the partypetshealthbars are they are show correctly in agUF, but when I'm close to the group the partypets healthbar is always full and the text reads 6000% :P
08:02.38PyrrhusI hear that alot Dhr
08:02.41CryectThe pet does DPS and normally decent DPS you might as well heal it
08:02.51vhaarrDhraga: It's a blizzard bug.
08:02.53Pyrrhusbut than again I think ive only heard it relating to ag....
08:02.56Pyrrhusor not :)
08:02.58CryectTHey normally don't take much damage besides from sweeping strikes/cleave or other aoes
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08:03.26DhragaCyrect, Agree, my felguard offtanks and does about 15% of total group dmg in the normal 5man
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08:03.37Diabolic-Destinyservers are down right?
08:03.43Dhragavhaarr, thank you
08:03.55CryectUS servers aren't
08:03.56Aelielif they're tanking a mob / doing damage / soaking damage, they get healed... if they're sitting and being useless, they can die and get ressed, if people are dying, the pets die first
08:04.03Diabolic-DestinyI was on US Server
08:04.19CryectHeh if they are sitting being useless I wonder how they died
08:04.19Diabolic-Destinyim stuck on success
08:04.26Diabolic-Destinyn site isnt working
08:04.39Cryectsounds like character selection servers are down then
08:04.40Diabolic-Destinycanne 1 access site?
08:04.59Aelielmany reason a pet would die... aoe, cleave, ./shrug
08:05.14AelielI tend to run with people who actually use their pets well, so I dunno :D
08:05.20Diabolic-Destinydamn retrieve server list
08:05.21Diabolic-Destinystuck
08:05.46Pyrrhuswork sucks im bored
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08:06.59Dhragavhaarr, have you seen if bliz have given any info on when it will be fixed ?
08:07.17vhaarrDhraga: No, ask ag.
08:08.08Diabolic-Destinyfakk character thign is down
08:08.08Diabolic-DestinyDo ppl dc if that happens?
08:08.08Cryectnope
08:08.09vhaarrnot normally, no
08:08.10Cryectjust better not logout
08:08.14Cryectthen you are fucked
08:08.15Dhragavhaarr, ok thanks I will. (but is this problem for all custom party pet frames or is some working from your knowledge?)
08:08.25Diabolic-Destinyfuck whats my luck
08:08.26Diabolic-Destinyi DC'd
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08:08.32Diabolic-Destinywhile in SteamVault
08:09.04Diabolic-Destinyne one on fwolf?
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08:13.04evlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuEDwcfJPSk
08:13.06evli lol'ed
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08:19.19vhaarr"There is no exit strategy", haha
08:20.05Diabolic-Destinyne1 gettin login probs?
08:24.38Fisker-lol
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08:24.52Fisker-blizzard didn't fix the bug that allowed you to go beyond the map boundaries
08:28.07Diabolic-Destinylol
08:28.14Diabolic-Destinyis it wrth farming AD rep?
08:28.17Diabolic-Destinyor no
08:28.21Cryectum no
08:28.49Diabolic-Destinyeven if ur bsmith
08:28.57Diabolic-Destinyor r recipies not worthless
08:28.57Cryectno use for it in outlands only reason I could see you want it is for Nature or Frost resist to pants
08:29.35Cryectyou have to goto naxx to get all the recipes and they are worthless in comparison ot the frost resist gear you can get in TBC
08:29.40Pyrrhusor if you actually wanna goto naxx
08:29.57Pyrrhuswell the AD frost ring is nice ;)
08:30.02CryectKinda hard not to be at least honored
08:30.09Pyrrhusyea
08:30.11CryectWell that requires a trash drop from Naxx
08:30.22Diabolic-Destinyi thnk im like neutral
08:30.29CryectDid you skip WPL and EPL?
08:30.33Diabolic-Destinyyep
08:30.39Cryectheh well that would do it
08:30.50Diabolic-Destinywas jus wondering if it was useful
08:31.01Cryect<PROTECTED>
08:31.20Cryectall the various items have been superceeded by other items
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08:32.14Diabolic-Destinybut i wanna chk out nax
08:32.23Diabolic-Destinyi nvr got to run ne of those intsances
08:32.24jjb_good morning
08:32.29Diabolic-Destinynax/mc/bwl/onyx
08:32.42Diabolic-Destinyi hope blizz does something to make them viable again
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08:32.46Cryectwell go do the quests in WPL and EPL and you can easily get honored
08:33.08Diabolic-Destinyso wait basically none of the old factions r worth it
08:33.24CryectBWL and Naxx are instances worth seeing at least once and I would say same for Rag in MC
08:33.41Diabolic-Destinylike darkmoon hydraxian
08:33.50Diabolic-Destinythorium
08:33.57CryectHydraxian barely had a point to rep with :-p
08:34.01Diabolic-Destinyall useless? no plans for blacksmith
08:34.12CryectAll useless
08:34.30Diabolic-Destinyglad i didnt bother farming rep
08:34.55CryectDarkmoon rep was actually something different where it was used to show how much left you could turn in quests for tickets
08:35.05Cryectno reward for having rep with them
08:35.25jjb_i still have some AQ20 items in the bank :)
08:35.34jjb_for the weapon
08:35.44CryectI think my mage might still have a couple things left that I should destroy
08:36.12jjb_where i can see the new sets?
08:36.13evlI still have naxx shoulders in bank
08:36.19evlWhich I can't turn in cause i never completed the quest :D
08:36.29Cryecthehe
08:36.33jjb_i got yesterday the t4 head for my mage, but its looks like a ...
08:36.39jjb_dont know the english word
08:36.53jjb_when you had an accident you get it around your neck
08:37.04Cryectneckbrace
08:37.21jjb_so ugly
08:37.25Cryectyes it is
08:37.33Cryectbe glad you aren't a druid!
08:37.35jjb_for my blond female human :)
08:37.41CryectI've had my helm hidden forever
08:37.48jjb_i disabled the helm
08:38.07Cryectthe only one I wouldn't hide would be my Tier 3 helm but I think I've worn it once only after I got for completing Tier 3 and then never again since Tier 2 is better
08:38.10jjb_i also had a problem to find a good meta-gem for it
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08:38.27jjb_bliz nerfed the gems :(
08:38.36jjb_no instant cast anymore
08:38.40CryectThey nerfed/buffed it
08:38.46Cryectits better for PvE worst for PvP
08:39.06jjb_i always proccs when i buff someone with int :)
08:39.48jjb_it
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08:40.41FISKER_Qaww
08:40.44FISKER_Qi got fukken pwned
08:40.57FISKER_QThe wall is still bugged but atleast they fixed so you can't get BACK in
08:40.58FISKER_Q:/
08:41.10Cryectwhat wall?
08:41.18jjb_from his bathroom :)
08:41.32Diabolic-Destinywow i cant even login
08:41.37Diabolic-Destinyscreen is on load
08:41.40Diabolic-Destinybut nothing happens
08:43.16FISKER_QCryect the invisible wall you get when flying on the flying mount
08:43.36CIA-1803rabbit * r30026 10Click2Cast/ (Click2Cast-enUS.lua Click2CastMenu.lua): Click2Cast: Don't include the mouse button name in the tablet list, since it's the header anyway.
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08:49.12FISKER_QNo
08:49.21dottedk
08:49.25dotted:(
08:49.40dotted/emo
08:49.41Fisker-:)
08:49.43dotted/cry
08:51.36dottedtrying to get maximum performance out of wow, after a format
08:52.10dottedinstall wow -> defrag -> install tbc -> defrag -> install patch 2.0.3 -> defrag -> install patch 2.0.10 -> defrag
08:52.51Pyrrhusdont have to defrag after each..
08:53.08PyrrhusI defrag like once every 2-3 weeks
08:53.09Pyrrhus:)
08:53.10dottedi know
08:53.21Pyrrhusbut than again my system rocks
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08:53.31dottedmine doesnt tho :p
08:53.37Pyrrhusless than 1gig ram?
08:53.44dottedyup
08:53.48dottedso far atleast
08:53.56Pyrrhus:( yea wow is gonna suck on it no matter what you do..
08:53.57dottedgetting another stick sometime soon
08:54.10Diabolic-Destinyi got a 512 off ebay
08:54.13Pyrrhusits actually quite cheap now a days lol
08:54.14Diabolic-Destinyfor like 25$
08:54.18Pyrrhusyea
08:54.20Pyrrhusits nuts
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08:54.30PyrrhusI built my system back in october..
08:54.30Diabolic-Destinyi have 1.5 right now
08:54.41Pyrrhuscost me 2700... could build same today for like 1500
08:54.44dottedi was wondering can you use 2x256 MB modules along with 1x512 MB module?
08:54.55Pyrrhusyea if they are the same speed :)
08:55.02dottedaight
08:55.29dottedyeah rm is cheap
08:55.34Pyrrhusnow thing is if they dont match speed..
08:55.35dottedbut it aint my computer
08:55.36CryectAlright time to goto sleep finished up the linear regression code for scatter plots http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5673/scattertestso2.jpg
08:55.47dottedand i aint in the mood for sponsering :D
08:55.48Pyrrhusthe faster one will downclock to run slower matching the slowest modual you have
08:56.12Pyrrhuslol
08:56.55dottedhoped i could convince him to get a 1GB stick - no lock tho :/
08:57.00dotted*luck
08:57.06TheKarnCryect, whats that for?
08:57.39CryectMy Graphing Library
08:59.01wobinIs that like a My Little Pony?
08:59.18vhaarrgrrrr
08:59.23vhaarrStop showing screenshots!
08:59.33CryectYeah I skipped step 1 and went to step 2 ???
08:59.45vhaarrindeed
09:00.10wobinWhat's step 1?
09:00.14vhaarrSVN
09:00.17Pyrrhuslol
09:00.17wobin(Aside from 'Collect Underwear')
09:00.43vhaarrThat thing is going to skyrocket my kb/s mem rate once I get Violation piping all its data through it.
09:00.46vhaarrAnd I'm going to love it.
09:00.50wobinhehe
09:01.02CryectViolation your damage meter thing you were talking about ?
09:01.08vhaarryes
09:01.52CryectWhat I'm more hoping for someone else will implement an actually good AH addon since I've been consistently too lazy to do one
09:02.13vhaarrjust think about it; one line per person in your party that reflect their relative dps according to the current max/min dps in the raid and updates every second
09:02.25vhaarra ticker thing
09:02.27Cryectthough maybe I will get around to it after a fully functioning graph library
09:02.28vhaarr*shiver*
09:02.29Cryectheh
09:02.29vhaarrGIVE
09:02.50CryectBlizzard should just have had built an auction system like Eve
09:03.00vhaarrAnd a builtin browser.
09:03.02vhaarrLike EQ2.
09:04.02vhaarrBlizzard needs to ease up on the io access.
09:04.25CryectBe nice
09:04.33Cryectthey are trying to avoid bots though
09:04.44Cryectbut hey most people who are botting
09:04.54Cryectdon't mind directly tapping the memory or reading the packets
09:05.33Cryectso not sure how it really helps, we can't really bot with all the restrictions we have now unlike originally
09:05.58vhaarrI don't see how file/tcp IO would help botting anyway.
09:06.43Cryectshrug I've got a friend who made a bot that uses an addon he wrote to communicate various information via pixels in the upper left of the screen
09:07.02Cryectbasically his goal was just to use as much ingame information as possible and avoid all the reading of memory/packets
09:07.32vhaarrheh, funny, a friend of mine did the same thing
09:07.46vhaarrhe got caught for something else, though, so they cancelled his account and he stopped playing
09:07.51vhaarrsince he was just doing it for fun anywya
09:08.49CryectWouldn't happen to be a malu05 would it?
09:08.59vhaarrthat name doesn't ring a bell
09:11.37vhaarrI think he got caught trying to dupe items using the in-game mail service with some packet hacks.
09:11.46Cryecthttp://www.autoitscript.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37998&hl=
09:11.47Cryecthehe
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09:13.50[Ammo]mornng
09:13.58trhmorning
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09:28.26CIA-1803ammo * r30027 10SimpleChatMods/urlcopy.lua: SimpleChatMods: readded pattern to match test.com
09:35.14Loki|muh[Ammo]: are the whispers filtered via a list of urls or how works the antigoldspam?
09:35.43Loki|muhjust wondered because english goldspam is gone but german goldspam continues
09:37.20[Ammo]check the code :p
09:37.20Loki|muhhehe thanks, I will
09:37.20vhaarror ask the person who actually wrote it, and not some random person
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09:38.19Loki|muhvhaarr: I guess if so changed something for a addon, he knows how the addons works :p
09:39.43[Ammo]it's a match on the list if one of the matches is in the list the person that sent that gets put into a spammer list anyone from that list is ignored
09:40.17Loki|muhthanks alot :)
09:41.00[Ammo]but you could have read the code like I just did and saw that yourself :p
09:44.27Bibi`ouFanyone seen Antiarc lately ?
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09:46.22Oridanwell hello thur
09:47.33PyrrhusSup
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09:48.44Elkanodoes druid flight form really require riding 150? Oo
09:51.26StephmwElkano: maybe Blizz go confused about who's riding who? :D
09:53.06Oridanvhaarr: i got a closetgnome 'patch' for you - comment out line 467 (self:WearSet(input)) - you dont need to equip the set before editing it, i think people normally get the set to how they like, and then press the edit button, just like making a new set, get it to how you like, then create it
09:53.18Oridanugh, what an ugly one-liner!
09:53.30vhaarrOridan: And how can they edit the set if it's not equipped?
09:53.39[Ammo]they wear it, and then update it
09:53.42[Ammo]that's how I expected it to work
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09:54.07Oridanwell, personally i switch to "normal" mess about with it, then 'edit' it
09:54.10CIA-1803rabbit * r30028 10BigWigs/Plugins/Colors.lua: BigWigs: Colors: Small optimizations, not good enough.
09:54.12Oridanand save it
09:54.31Oridanreason being
09:54.40Oridanwhen you put the overlay on, you cant move items around
09:54.57Oridanso if you wanna swap your trinket positions, for instance
09:56.08Oridanmaybe it could be made as a saveable option?
09:56.15vhaarrno, sorry
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09:57.17Oridanok, i shall continue to edit it each release
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10:00.09PyrrhusI got a few questions for you guys..
10:00.20Pyrrhusanyone ever use like discord art..?
10:00.34Pyrrhusand do you know of any alternatives to it..
10:00.47[Ammo]no, no :)
10:00.54Pyrrhus:(
10:00.57Pyrrhuscrap lol
10:01.02Oridani think i saw something that might be like DArt
10:01.16Oridanlet me check
10:01.27[Ammo]some people use eepanels or something
10:01.29PyrrhusWell basically looking for something that I could create like custom images with to toss on my UI that wont interfer with the actual screen
10:01.31PyrrhusIE..
10:01.31[Ammo]but dunno if it is like dart
10:01.37Pyrrhuswhen I used discordart..
10:01.40CIA-1803rabbit * r30029 10BigWigs/Plugins/Colors.lua: BigWigs: Colors: Register the colors on enable instead (doesn't matter if it happens more than once).
10:01.52Pyrrhuslets say I had a map image.. and most of it was clear..
10:01.55Oridanyea, i was thinking of eepanels
10:02.00Oridancouldnt remember the name
10:02.13PyrrhusBasically... I couldnt click on anything on/behind the image..
10:02.48Pyrrhusit was like the images was the top layer.. and I couldnt even right click my mouse over it to turn
10:02.52Oridandunno if this works the same
10:02.54Pyrrhusor target people through it
10:03.07Pyrrhuswheres eepanels?
10:03.11Pyrrhuswowinterface?
10:03.20Oridanwww.wowace.com/files/
10:03.32Oridanfiles.wowace.com even
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10:03.38Oridanboth the same ^^
10:03.54Pyrrhuswhere can I get like the readup/screenshots on it?
10:04.08Pyrrhuswhats like the wowacewiki page..
10:04.36Oridanhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/EePanels
10:05.10Pyrrhusty :)
10:05.13Oridanno prob
10:05.17Oridanit looks quite good
10:05.41PyrrhusOk do me a quick favor there..
10:05.48Pyrrhusopen the screenshot he has
10:05.54Oridanyea
10:06.00Pyrrhussee the green box..
10:06.06Pyrrhuspanel 4
10:06.21PyrrhusOk lets say that the green is the full size of the image..
10:06.26Oridanyea
10:06.27Pyrrhussee how the top inch or so overlaps?
10:06.37Pyrrhusbut would be clear..
10:06.47Oridanoh
10:06.49Pyrrhusmy problem with Dart..
10:06.57Oridanthe clear bit you cant click thru
10:07.02Pyrrhuswas that clear section.. I couldnt target.. rightclick turn camera nothing..
10:07.05Pyrrhusyea
10:07.13Oridani doubt you can do anything about that
10:07.17Pyrrhushm
10:07.26[Ammo]you can
10:07.26Oridanbut then again
10:07.28Pyrrhuslike that will limit my playing screen by an extra inch to do that
10:07.28Oridani have no idea
10:07.30[Ammo]disable the mouse on the panels
10:07.39Pyrrhusahhhhh
10:07.41[Ammo]then they are clickthrough
10:07.49Pyrrhuseepanel can do that?
10:07.50[Ammo]someframe:EnableMouse(false)
10:07.51Oridanyea, if you remember blizzards left and right "gargoyles"
10:07.51[Ammo]and you're done
10:07.53[Ammo]dunno
10:07.58Oridanyou can click thru them
10:08.02[Ammo]I only know the lua to make the frame clickthrough :p
10:08.09Pyrrhuslol
10:08.11Oridanbut i dont think you can do half and half
10:08.15Pyrrhusalright well ill try when I get home
10:08.20whizteris there an addon which automatically clicks "Ok" when you want to pick up a bop item?
10:08.28Pyrrhuswell if I can make if fully clickable thats fine
10:08.28Oridani'm gonna stick eepanels on now actually and have a play
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10:08.45Pyrrhusbecause everything I would have like buttons and chatboxes I would wanna click on
10:08.53Oridanright after i find a way of making a closetgnome addon to make the editing work the way i want :D
10:08.55Pyrrhusty Ori :)
10:09.28Pyrrhus[Ammo]: do you know if I could do custom images for eepanel?
10:09.36[Ammo]no I don't
10:10.15[Ammo]I don't even know how it works
10:10.15Pyrrhushmm
10:10.15Pyrrhustoss in real fast lmao
10:10.15PyrrhusOri
10:10.15Oridanprobably you can yes
10:10.22Oridanbut you need to put em in the folder
10:10.24Pyrrhuswhen you pop it in see if there is anyway to hide/unhide panels via party/raid
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10:10.27Oridani think he gives an example
10:10.33Pyrrhusok
10:11.14Oridanyou could set the texture to: \\Interface\\Addons\\eePanels\\icon.tga
10:11.31Oridanso just drop your tga graphics into an the addon folder... i guess
10:11.42Pyrrhusyea ;)
10:16.36Nickenyfikenwithout the .tga
10:17.19whizteris there an addon which automatically clicks "ok" when picking up a bop item?
10:17.47ElkanoI think xloot can do in case you're solo
10:17.47mitch0ninja.lua?
10:17.59whizterxloot ok thx
10:18.18Elkanobut xloot is a complete lootframe replacement
10:19.05whizteris it compatible with fruty loots?
10:19.54PyrrhusAnyone manage to find anything like emergency monitor yet?
10:20.10Pyrrhusa clickable heal type thing
10:20.12Pyrrhus;0
10:20.58NickenyfikenPyrrhus: you could try Grid
10:21.19Nickenyfikenwith Clique or Click2Cast
10:22.09Pyrrhushmm
10:22.15Pyrrhusnot bad idea ;)
10:24.14PyrrhusI miss my old group buttons lowest health macro :)
10:24.24PyrrhusI could do an either bwl run hitting 1 button lmao
10:25.29evlPanza was also nice
10:25.32evl:D
10:26.33Nickenyfikenthat must have been very fun... NOT
10:27.17Industrial~seen kergoth
10:27.30purlkergoth is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 6h 18m 42s) #oe (2d 6h 18m 42s) #wowace (2d 6h 18m 42s) #elinux (2d 6h 18m 42s). Has said a total of 28 messages. Is idling for 3h 11m 21s, last said: 'http://covenant.kergoth.com/images/wow_82.jpg is my current setup'.
10:28.18Stephmwmeh, and his server isn't online either ;)
10:29.27TheKarnwhats the name of the prayer of mending tracker?
10:36.08NickenyfikenAce addon?
10:36.42Nickenyfikenive seen something like PoMTracker
10:37.19johOoh, sounds lovely that PoMTracker :)
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10:50.22Nickenyfikenbah this aint working
10:50.33Nickenyfikenkilled like 15 elementals without a mote
10:52.44Nickenyfiken*subs uncontrollably*
10:53.17Pyrrhuswhich eles?
10:53.31evlwhat mote.
10:53.48Pyrrhusbest place ive found to farm is up in netherstorm.. the mana guys.. :)
10:54.00Pyrrhusthey die very fast and drop rate is about 50%
10:54.54Nickenyfikenair
10:55.08Nickenyfikeni kill those in Shadowmoon cus im just lvl69 with this guy
10:55.22Nickenyfikenso i cant fly up to those in Nagrand :-/
10:57.06CIA-1803usz * r30030 10TooltipExchange/ (Modules/Loot.lua Modules/UI.lua TooltipExchange.toc):
10:57.07CIA-18TooltipExchange
10:57.07CIA-18- Moved raid instance loot to separate module
10:59.38ckknightBlood Elf Paladin. Because our god lives in the basement!
11:00.03Nickenyfikenlol
11:08.45Pyrrhuskill the ones in netherstorm
11:08.50Pyrrhusdie wayyyyy faster
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11:09.02Pyrrhusand drop more plus the respawn is amazingly fast
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11:10.37knarfOkay, can anyone give some pointers on grid customization for healing? :)
11:11.05Nickenyfikennothing in Netherstorm drops Mote of Air
11:11.19Nickenyfikenatleast according to wowhead http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22572
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11:21.59trhlol... i just heard the greatest thing ever in teamspeak "if *playname* is with us, every instance is heroic" lol
11:22.08trhplayername
11:23.16knarfcute
11:23.39knarfAnyone know if GuildAds is still being developed or there exists another mod that works in the same manner?
11:25.02ckknightman, relationships that go from friends to something more are by far the most confusing
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11:27.24echosI can't finding anything for slash commands to make a macro to target a specific raid icon/
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11:33.41ckknightIn the kingdom of the blind even the ugly get butt secks
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11:36.31trhdang ckknight.. i didn't knew what butt secks was until i googled it up and it showed pictures............
11:40.38knarftrh pwned :S
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11:46.51Oridanok, maybe i'm confused, but i googled it and got http://www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/!!!!!buttsecks.jpg
11:46.54Oridan:D
11:47.40Oridani know what you're thinking, and ya, rly.....
11:47.51Punkie`im more concerned that you googled buttsecks when you knew what it was :S
11:48.43Oridanwell, i had to google it cos i dont think theres an orly search :P maybe orlysearch.com ?
11:49.16ckknighthttp://www.notaddicted.com/forums/showthread.php?t=751 <--- awesomesauce
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12:25.08knarfDoes BottomFeeder exist for kc_items in a version where it asks you to place a bid ? :)
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13:09.19CIA-1803gagorian * r30031 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua):
13:09.19CIA-18DrDamage:
13:09.19CIA-18-Fixed Blessing of Light and Greater Blessing of Light.
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13:22.44kagaroquiet morning
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13:26.45Kirkburn|afkIt's all those pigeons. They swooped in last night and stole everyone's keyboards. Precision attack, you see.
13:26.59Kirkburn|afkFortutunately I closed my window.
13:27.35Kirkburn|afkIt was a bit chilly and I was worried about Jack Frost coming to give me brain freeze. Only ice cream is allowed that pleasure.
13:29.06Kirkburn|afkSo I had this woman viciously attack my hair this morning. I was only trying to deal with this condition I have where I hair keeps getting longer. And then she forced me to pay her! Sheesh, what's the world coming too...
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13:31.11kenlyricI <3 when people are clearing socrethar's Seat for aldor rep but don't mine or flowerpick.
13:31.16kenlyricfree money, no mobs!
13:32.01Elkano<kenlyric> free money, no mobs! ... oh f&#$... respawn...
13:32.27kenlyricI can kill them if absolutely necessary. It just takes me an hour.
13:33.00ElkanoPaladin?
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13:34.52kenlyricpriest
13:36.35kagaroshadow kenlyric?
13:37.17kenlyricif it took me an hour to kill something as a shadow priest. I'd uninstall right now.
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13:46.37pahvirDoes ignoring someone also block stuff his/her mods send through the hidden channels?
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14:07.42kagaroive gota figure out what addon I have causes an assertion failure on G5 powermac
14:08.52kagaroI think its agUF doing it, not sure why that is though
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14:26.15Fisker-When does it happen kagaro?
14:26.45kagarowhen i first start the game and go to the addon screen, and the first time I hit agUF config menu
14:26.59kagarodoes it just once, .. assert failure in tempest
14:27.01Fisker-ok then that's probably it :P
14:27.16kagarowhat is doing vs the others ive got no clue
14:27.30kagaroand it only does it on my PowerPC machine, not my intel mac
14:28.20kagaroits confusing and ive literally have sent blizz 100's of error reports
14:29.29kenlyrichas aspect of the dazed always turned off when you get hit?
14:29.35kenlyricerrr, aspect of the cheetah
14:30.23kagarokenlyric: no thats a rescent change
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14:30.44kagaroanti chain dazing
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14:35.44JJSheets~seen cncfanatics
14:36.09purlcncfanatics <n=cncfanat@216.86-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 32m 27s ago, saying: 'going now, cya'.
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14:38.34Fisker-Is there a condition for being able to use flying mounts?
14:38.59Grollkagaro u around?
14:39.07kagaroyup
14:39.15knarf^Fisker- having the skill? :P
14:39.26Icerothbleh, some addon borked surfacelib apparently, i can't get Steel texture anymore even though it's in the list it gives something else >.<
14:39.42Grollok great, just wondering how the "i will look into that" part on the wowhead db stuff for the sharing is going :P
14:40.02Grollumm well that was good english.. umm right :P
14:40.08Fisker-wi meant macro-wise
14:40.22Fisker-something like if-in-outlands use flying mount if-not gtfo
14:40.29Fisker-i.e. normal land mount
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14:40.41knarf^not sure, guess you can check the zone
14:40.47knarf^I just use a modifier
14:41.14JJSheetsFisker-, I'm sure it does exist... can't remember... might be coming up in a new patch tho
14:41.18knarf^if i hold alt while pressing it, it will mount my 100% speed one :)
14:41.27KlazarCurious on my Map (cart and simple) while in BG's I cant tell which group im in, I see everyone elses goup # but im an arror and mousover on it discloses no group# info
14:42.28Fisker-yeah that's what i meant too JJSheets
14:43.40Grollkagaro ? :P u missed my message i guess :P
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14:47.04kagarowhich message?
14:47.12kagaroohh that one
14:47.15Groll:P
14:47.25kagarothe points outsid ethe map
14:47.31Grollyep
14:48.04JJSheetsFisker-, In 2.1.0 there will be a new macro conditonal [flyable] so you'll be able to do:    /cast [flyable] Swift Red Windrider; Summon Dreadsteed
14:48.09kagaroit appears to be a math issue on how lua and php/ruby handle numbers
14:48.28Fisker-awww
14:48.29Grollaha oke
14:48.38Grolli hope i'll see a fix someday :D
14:48.57JJSheetsuntil then use [modifier:alt] or something in place of flyable.  :)
14:49.19kagarogroll: im gona do some testing today to see if I can get more accuracy
14:49.33evlOooor
14:49.42evl./cast Swift Flying Thingy
14:49.44evl./stopcasting
14:49.48evl./cast Slow Poke Ground Hog
14:49.51evlworks just as a well
14:50.17JJSheetsyeah, evl's macrotext will work... giving an error at most.
14:50.59Stephmwswstats question... is there a way to display 'raw' dps per person in a group? 'effective dps' is a bit weird
14:51.09Grollkagaro great thanks :)¨
14:51.23evlStephmw: I find Recap to be a lot more accurate for that kind of stuff
14:54.44kagaroGroll: can you tell me a map and node thats way out of place so i can check it ?
14:55.05Stephmwevl: ok, I'll give it a whirl
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14:59.17Grollkagaro sure sec and i'll log in
15:02.06Grollkagaro dustwallow marsh.. there is one tin vein that is way out of place to the sw
15:02.15kagarok
15:02.49Grollwinterspring one truesilver and also a truesilver and rich thorium on the same spot are way off
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15:03.19abbat-wbtw guys, anyone jewelcrafter here?
15:03.46abbat-wit is possible to lvl jc 350 on 10 lvl twink?
15:04.12Loki|muhno
15:04.24abbat-wlvl restrictions?
15:04.25CIA-1803eternally777 * r30032 10SacredBuff/SacredBuff.lua:
15:04.25CIA-18SacredBuff:
15:04.25CIA-18* Fixed error in German clients on line 242.
15:04.34Loki|muhyes
15:04.43Loki|muhdunno which but there is something
15:04.56Loki|muhi tried to have a mooncloth twink
15:05.24abbat-w35 lvl min was
15:05.31abbat-wdunno how it now
15:07.37knarf^Anyone that knows if BottomFeeder or a variant still exists and works with KC_Items ?
15:09.50shieldbknarf^, there's bottomscanner that's part of auctioneer now (which will notify you about deals that meet your threshold but not autobuy them), but that obviously won't jive with kci
15:10.37knarf^shieldb darn it, would have been neat, the autobuy feature was kinda cheat imho, I just liked the search part :)
15:10.55knarf^I wonder if I should go back to Auctioneer then instead of KC_Items
15:11.42shieldbI run both on different characters
15:12.08kenlyricI couldn't deal with some of the mispricing that kci did, so I went back to Auctioneer until kci2 is done.
15:12.09shieldbkci does all I need for my main for regular stuff, and I don't have to have the behemoth that is auctioneer load
15:12.21shieldbauctioneer I run on my bank character
15:12.52knarf^shieldb hmm seems decent
15:13.17knarf^i'm not even sure what kc_items does anymore now that I think of it
15:13.18knarf^:P
15:14.07knarf^hmm oh well i've lived with Auctioneer once, I might aswell do it again untill kci2 is around
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15:29.10mitch0anyone know where is it worth farming for arcane tomes?
15:29.19mitch0s/know/knows/
15:29.43abbat-wblack temple
15:29.52abbat-wand eclipse point
15:30.04mitch0abbat-w: solo?
15:30.11abbat-wyep
15:30.20lassizcidoes the bot know even more advanced regexps too?-)
15:30.38mitch0lassizci: I managed to bork it with a fairly simple one :)
15:30.46lassizci:)
15:30.50abbat-wi farm rep with scryers in bl (signets and tomes)
15:31.08mitch0bl?
15:31.16mitch0black temple?
15:31.18lassizcitesting testing
15:31.24lassizcis/testing/lesting/
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15:44.42FISKER_QThrissa is stupid
15:45.48knarf^is there a fubar addon for auctioneer? :>
15:46.22Grollno
15:46.39FISKER_QIf there is, it isn't on the svn atleast
15:48.54Brunerswhy do you want a fubar addond for auctioneer?
15:49.18knarf^To manage options?
15:50.12Brunerswhat options?
15:50.23knarf^Auctioneers options
15:53.16Brunersknarf^: is there any options changeable for auctioneer? other than what you search for ?
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15:54.24knarf^There is a lot of options in auctionner and using the slash cmd is not that handy imo anyway
15:54.56evlauctioneer is a money machine :D
15:55.03evlThink I can make about 50g a week just reselling crap
15:55.11knarf^hehe
15:55.13knarf^cute
15:56.02Antiarc|WorkI have a question:
15:56.16Antiarc|WorkI am going to extend my guild tools to provide useful breakdowns of arena teams.
15:56.20Antiarc|WorkWhat would you all want to see in there?
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16:04.09art3mishttp://www.intelliadmin.com/DaylightSavingNotice.asp?File=DaylightSavingFix.exe
16:04.20art3misfor anyone running 2k
16:05.41cronoAntiarc|Work, Class, Spec :P
16:05.45cronoThat's it pretty much.
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16:06.21art3misdoes it show who you've fought against?
16:06.46art3mislike say the record of team a vs team b
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16:07.29Antiarc|WorkNo, don't think so
16:07.32Antiarc|WorkJust win/losses
16:08.21art3misyou could make a tiny addon to gather that info, its extraneous info but would still be neat
16:11.21Punkie`Antiarc|Work: The same information you have now, but with 'Talent Spec: Assasination' and 'Talent Layout: 30/0/31'  for example
16:12.37trhevl: if you spend time to resell crap you have to consider the amount of time and how much money you could have made instead in that time
16:13.14Kaelteng'morning everyone
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16:13.15Punkie`I got a cool bow last night, couldn't find a hunter to shoot with it though :(
16:13.57evltrh: let's see, i run scan and bottom scanner, go take a piss, come back and drag and drop high profit items and click a button
16:14.13evltrh: it's not like i'm bringing up my calculator and round glasses
16:14.36trhevl: but altogether that does take a while or? =)
16:14.46evlif I've had a lot of tea yes
16:14.52Punkie`i dont think trh has used auctioneer :o
16:14.59trhPunkie`: true =)
16:15.33Punkie`I just send all my crap to a bank character
16:15.41Punkie`when i have dinner i scan AH
16:15.48Punkie`when i get back i post auctions
16:16.06Punkie`scanning takes the longest
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16:21.19Antiarc|WorkOk, this is bizarre.
16:21.40Antiarc|WorkFrom the command line: date +"%x %X %z" produces a -700 timezone
16:21.48Antiarc|WorkFrom PHP, the equivalent command produces -600
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16:27.36JJSheetsdaylight savings time problem Antiarc|Work.  DST changed in America cause congress couldn't keep it's collective thumb out of it's ass.
16:27.46JJSheetsthat's my guess at least.
16:28.07Antiarc|WorkYeah, I know, but I can't figure out WHERE the problem is.
16:28.10Antiarc|WorkPHP should use the system time.
16:28.16Antiarc|WorkThe system time says X. PHP says Y.
16:28.20Antiarc|WorkAnd I have noooo idea why.
16:28.32JJSheetsGood luck :)  don'tcha LOVE congress?
16:28.34Antiarc|WorkIf both were off I'd be a lot more ok with it
16:29.09JJSheetslol
16:29.30Elkanowrt statusbar textures: is there a difference between otravi and cilo?
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16:33.05mitch0Antiarc|Work: try strace (or its equivalent on your system)
16:34.42mitch0anyway, I'm off. seeya
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16:37.26cncfanaticsping, JJSheets
16:37.32JJSheetshey hey
16:37.42JJSheetsI have a HUGE update for you.
16:37.44cncfanaticslemme update from svn and check ur code :)
16:37.55JJSheetshaven't committed the big stuff yet.
16:37.57Loki|muhAntiarc|Work: maybe there is a date.timezone set in your php.ini?
16:38.04cncfanaticsJJSheets, what are you working on ?
16:38.10cncfanaticsand i'm going to rearrange ur code a bit if you don't mind
16:38.25cncfanatics(noticed you put the group locking api not in the handlers, ain't consistent with the others)
16:38.32cncfanaticsgreat work btw :)
16:38.32kenlyricI'm in your SVN, rearranging ur code?
16:38.39cncfanaticslol
16:38.45cncfanaticsour code actualy ;)
16:38.51JJSheetssince my last commit I got rogue and warrior stance changes working perfectly.
16:38.52kenlyricooh, sexy
16:39.10JJSheetsupdated a bug in my colors for out of mana indicator too somewhere along the line...
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16:39.34cncfanaticsgonna check it all out now and rearrange some stuff
16:39.34JJSheetsI'm now trying to wrap my head around actionbars (should be easy)
16:39.59JJSheetslike I said, the stance stuff isn't commited, it changes about 80% of the files :)
16:40.01cncfanaticswhy did u put LockGroup and so directly in Grouping.lua ? :p
16:40.06JJSheetsI'll commit if you want.
16:40.10cncfanaticsdon't bother yet :)
16:40.14JJSheetsk
16:40.16cncfanaticslemme first rearrange :)
16:40.49JJSheetsLockGroup in Grouping.lua because it's related directly to groups.  :)
16:41.00JJSheetsbut it ought to work anywhere...
16:41.24cncfanaticsshld be in controller
16:41.38cncfanaticsand shld use RegisterHandler :p, imo at least :p
16:43.01JJSheetstried it... couldn't figure out how to run it... so I left it where I put it.  :)
16:43.53cncfanaticsJJSheets, lazy indeed :p
16:44.00JJSheetslol
16:44.06cncfanaticseither way, I'm going to move them, where is the code actualy used ?
16:44.13cncfanaticsthe saving location will change, so got to change it too
16:44.28cncfanaticsand either way, why is there even a LockGroup ? :p
16:44.40cncfanaticsif the button currently dragging is locked, it just shldnt happen, think i'll do it that way
16:44.42JJSheetsif by where it's used you mean when does a user call it... any time after the group is defined.
16:44.53cncfanaticstrue, it could be handy
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16:48.35Tupsi!seen Nymbia
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16:49.13cncfanatics~seen Nimbia
16:49.41purlcncfanatics: i haven't seen 'nimbia'
16:49.41cncfanatics~seen Nymbia
16:49.47purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-138-197.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 13h 31m 54s ago, saying: 'a lot of stuff in kz is better than gruul etc'.
16:49.47cncfanaticsthat'll go better Tupsi :p
16:50.24Tupsithanks
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17:03.48Klazarwhats the most popular addon for BG leaders to see the troops and communicate stratagy?
17:04.26Elkano\o/ my bargroups stick to eachother when moving them close; next step for EBB reached
17:06.38CIA-1803eraslin * r30033 10DKPmon/Awarding/awardframe.lua: DKPmon: Hopefully fix the standby spam for people entering the raid.
17:06.43Saint-NElkano's Bar Buddy?
17:06.49Elkanotime for a new commit :)
17:06.57ElkanoElkano's BuffBars
17:07.01Saint-Noh
17:07.16Saint-Nthere are lots of buffbar mods, why make a new one?
17:07.28kenlyricebb isn't a new one :)
17:07.33Saint-Nor rather why devote time to a new one
17:07.35vhaarrIt's not new, it's older than most buff mods.
17:07.38Saint-Noh
17:07.42ElkanoSaint-N, what do you think is one of the most common out there? ;)
17:07.49Saint-Nsounded like it was all pretty and new ;P
17:07.51nevcairieland who really cares if there are other ones
17:07.56vhaarrindeed
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17:08.08nevcairielif you have an idea, stick to it. and if only you use it, it was worth it :D
17:08.13Saint-Nwell as far as buff things do there's really only so many ways you can display them
17:08.26Saint-Nhence the curiosity
17:08.45nevcairieli am happy with default buff icons
17:08.51nevcairielonly wish i have .. moving them
17:08.57nevcairielbut i was too lazy to do it yet :D
17:09.02Saint-Nmoveanything!+maff
17:09.04Saint-N;)
17:09.10nevcairielnah i dont want a move-mod
17:09.12Saint-Ni love maff
17:09.23nevcairieli would prolly just code the fixed position in somewhere
17:09.25nevcairielbut then ..
17:09.25Klazarid b lost without my ebb
17:09.26nevcairieltoo lazy
17:09.27nevcairiel:D
17:09.30Saint-Nbasically its like kc'a mobility but it appends to ma!'s stuff
17:09.36CIA-1803eraslin * r30034 10DKPmon/Looting/lootframe.lua: DKPmon: Add ''open bidding'' as an option after bidding has closed.
17:09.42Saint-Nits rather handy
17:10.05Klazarprolly need to add a "ding" when my important buffs run out
17:10.07CIA-1803elkano * r30035 10SharedMedia/: Created folder remotely
17:10.19Saint-Nheh i miss the old "healer" mod
17:10.30Saint-Nthat would cast buffs that ran out as you moved
17:10.44Saint-Nlike auto inner fire and auto shield
17:10.47Saint-Ncuz im lazy
17:10.55nevcairielive never used anything like auto-buff or something
17:11.04nevcairielnever liked the idea of casting on movement keys.
17:11.10Saint-Nin 1.8 healer actually bound shield and renew to yer movement keys so that as you ran around it would auto group heal
17:11.20Saint-Ndidnt notice it til 1.9
17:11.42Saint-Ni wish they hadn't fucked with inner fire
17:11.55Saint-Nand just left it as an indefinite buff
17:12.09Saint-Nthis 20 hits crap is so retarded
17:12.32Saint-N1 damage or 50 damage it's 20 hits regardless
17:12.52Saint-Nalthough if something hits you for 2500 at least its still 20 ;P
17:13.23Saint-Nmy only addon wish right now is that there was a questlog that stayed in a fixed window size and let you scroll though with the mouse
17:13.29Saint-Nerr quest tracker
17:13.47KlazarI've got a priest i play alot, what is healer1.9 I dont see that on the wowace files
17:13.53shieldbSaint-N, FuBar_QuestFu. Set it to detached tooltip
17:13.58Saint-Nit doesnt work anymore
17:14.08Saint-Nhealer was a healing mod
17:14.11CIA-1803cncfanatics * r30036 10FlexBar2/ (5 files): FlexBar2: Fixed group dragging (hopefully)
17:14.17Saint-Nwas from ui or wowi cant remember
17:14.24Klazarkk
17:14.24Saint-Nshieldb: really?
17:14.35CIA-1803elkano * r30037 10SharedMedia/ (15 files in 3 dirs):
17:14.35CIA-18SharedMedia
17:14.35CIA-18- initial commit
17:14.36CIA-18- adds media to SharedMediaLib's storage
17:14.36Saint-Nif you want a good lazy priest addon get Benecast
17:14.45Saint-Nor the new castbuttons
17:14.56shieldbin detached tooltip mode it won't get larger then however large the fubar detached tooltips get, and mousewheel scrolls the visible list
17:15.08Saint-Nboth on ui or wowi, basically they put a little bar of spells next to each persons name in the party or solo
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17:15.29Saint-Nshieldb: oooo i should somehow steal that and make nquest do it ;P
17:15.52Klazarlol thnx will look at that
17:16.09Saint-Nand it auto hooks to most of the common unitframes addons too ;)
17:16.13Saint-Ni love benecast
17:16.25Saint-Nmakes my life so much easier than clique
17:16.42Saint-Nit also "greys" out buffs that a person has on them so you dont recast
17:16.50Saint-Nlike renew fort spirit etc
17:17.21Saint-Nsmartbuff is another good priest addon
17:17.38Saint-Nkeeps track of buffs and switches to use group versions if nessessary
17:17.44Elkanowell, we could suggest ckknight to add a 'maxlines' option to tablets
17:18.19kenlyric<PROTECTED>
17:18.30kenlyricI <3 smartbuff just for self-buffing though.
17:18.56cncfanaticsbleh, buff addons are quite silly
17:19.00cncfanaticswell, imo anyway
17:19.07cncfanaticsI prefer using flexbar with buff highlighting
17:19.13ilifin~seen nymbia
17:19.34purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-138-197.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14h 1m 41s ago, saying: 'a lot of stuff in kz is better than gruul etc'.
17:19.36shieldbSaint-N, I've found I much prefer macroing stuff as /cast [target=mouseover, help] vs. benecast or clique, but I don't like clicking my interface much in the first place :)
17:19.42Barbanuspallypower is almost required IMO
17:19.43Barbanusits a buffing mod
17:19.43JJSheetsthe flexbar buff highlight is very nice :)
17:19.55cncfanaticsbleh, other actionbar addons are so gonna imitate it
17:20.16JJSheetslol
17:20.26cncfanaticsu wanne bet ?
17:20.26JJSheetsimitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
17:20.32Punkie`zomg who got the 30000 commit ???!?! :o!
17:20.34JJSheetsI ain't taking that bet.  :)
17:20.36Barbanuspallypower allows promoted people to assign paladins to buff certain classes, sync'd to the raid, and then tracks who is buffed, and for how long
17:20.40Barbanusits ftw
17:20.41JJSheetsPunkie`, vhaar stole it :)
17:20.49Punkie`zomg, what for!
17:20.53cncfanaticswhen flexbar2 gets stable and known a bit DAB is so gonna take over that feature
17:21.09JJSheetssome closetgnome stuff I think, Punkie`
17:21.21Punkie`well at least it was used for uber gnome purposes
17:21.40Tupsiyou know a simple addon which remebers the AH prices I put up an item for?
17:21.46CIA-1803elkano * r30038 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua ElkBuffBars.toc): (log message trimmed)
17:21.46CIA-18ElkBuffBars
17:21.46CIA-18- added support for target and pet (de)buffs
17:21.46CIA-18- groups can now stick to other groups when moved above or below them (depends on growup setting)
17:21.46CIA-18- will now sort buffs
17:21.47CIA-18- buff canceling now working
17:21.47Tupsinext time i sell another one
17:21.49CIA-18- tooltips should work, too
17:22.07Saint-Ni'd love for someone to make a remote ah
17:22.14ilifinElkano, does the new EBB work? :D
17:22.15Elkanovhaarr, grats to a series of tubes :P
17:22.18Saint-Nand a remote list of "new skills and spells"
17:22.25vhaarrElkano: :P
17:22.29Elkanoilifin, depends on how you define 'work'
17:22.31BarbanusSaint-N, you mean like: http://www.warcraftauctionhouse.com/
17:22.40ilifinas in, testable?
17:23.02Saint-Nsorta but in game
17:23.02Elkanotestable, yes as in "no errors for me"
17:23.15ilifindoes it show anything yet? :p
17:23.22Elkanobut you'll have to configure it in the lua files or via console
17:23.39ilifinthat isn't a problem honestly
17:23.46Elkanoand with via console I mean changing vars and calling functions
17:23.59ilifinawesome
17:24.01Elkanobut for having a look at it, yes it works ;)
17:24.11BarbanusSaint-N, I just use auctioneer + itemsync
17:24.18ilifinwhat's new in it? :)
17:24.28Elkanoitemsync is tha evil... use ItemDB ;)
17:24.33Saint-Nyeah i was hoping for something that looks like the ah, and lets me check out prices of stuff remotely
17:24.41Saint-Nlike when im bored while flying ;P
17:24.56Elkanoilifin, test and you'll see I think ^^
17:24.56BarbanusElkano, I've never had any issues with it :P
17:25.05Elkano<- lunch, l8erz
17:25.11Saint-Ni know it would be horribly out of date, but still...
17:25.18Elkanowell, still feel free to check ItemDB ^^
17:25.44Saint-Ndoes itemdb do that horrible lag pause thingy when it finds new things?
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17:25.52Saint-Nlike itemsync does
17:25.59BarbanusElkano, does it have all of the same features, mainly allow me to put in a item ID that it doesnt know about (that I know the server does), etc
17:26.27sbuElkano: work as in 'movable' and working cancel aura ;)
17:27.57sbuahh
17:28.19sbureading commit messages ftw
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17:31.41knarf^is there an easy way to get the itemlink when you hoover an item ?
17:32.06JJSheetswhat are you doing with a vacuum?
17:32.29AKXBadum-tssh.
17:32.34JJSheetsthank you
17:32.47AKXMy pleasure.
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17:34.56AKXDitto.
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17:35.56vhaarrknarf^: Yes.
17:36.21nevcairielIts so easy that you wont tell him how?
17:36.25JJSheetslol
17:36.29JJSheetsthat's vhaarr
17:36.31JJSheets:)
17:36.57knarf^well he did answer my question :)
17:37.02JJSheetsyup
17:37.18nevcairielgenerally that sort of question implies the "how"
17:37.25nevcairielbut if you are happy..
17:37.26nevcairiel:D
17:37.42knarf^meh, not that important, i'll figure it out one or another way
17:37.53vhaarrThere are many addons that demonstrate how, check out OnTooltipSetItem.
17:38.15nevcairielfirst of, hover an item .. in chat? in inventory/char screen?
17:38.29nevcairielthe second is easy.
17:39.22knarf^nevcairiel inventory, lootframe, itemlink
17:39.26knarf^the itemlink is easy :p
17:39.43knarf^but i'm not sure how to get the itemlink to do GetItemInfo(itemlink)
17:39.49nevcairielinventory is easy too, just hook OnTooltipSetItem as vhaarr said
17:40.16nevcairielthat should cover lootframe as well
17:40.45knarf^i'm gonna look into that then :)
17:40.55shieldbhmm... bigwigs for illhoof doesn't have his enrage timer
17:40.56knarf^For now, i'm gonna go eat dinner
17:41.18nevcairielthats an excellent plan
17:41.25shieldbsame with netherspite it seems
17:42.06vhaarrshieldb: It's kind of hard to add timers for that when you never get it happening.
17:42.08CIA-1803totalpackage * r30039 10InFlight/ (. InFlight.lua InFlight.toc):
17:42.08CIA-18InFlight:
17:42.08CIA-18- attempt to reduce the amount of work done in the onupdate function
17:42.08CIA-18- removed the use of Metrognome
17:42.08CIA-18- tweaked the bar frames a bit
17:42.10vhaarrshieldb: What are the timers?
17:42.23vhaarr10min, like all other bosses?
17:42.30shieldbI'd have to doublecheck but I believe illhoof is 10min, netherspite is 9
17:42.42vhaarralright, I'll add those in, then
17:43.01shieldbI'm not positive on netherspite being 9 though
17:43.18vhaarryou can doublecheck with wowwiki
17:43.28CIA-1803totalpackage * r30040 10InFlight/InFlight.toc:
17:43.28CIA-18InFlight:
17:43.28CIA-18- updated toc fields
17:43.31shieldbI had an unpotted learning attempt where we just kept on going as long as we could even though we were down two dps and he AE'd for 115k after 9-10 minutes into the fight
17:44.13BarbanusI'd *LOVE* to have the sticky frames back for bartender .. where they used to snap to edges of the screen, or to other bars :)
17:44.16OverloadUTSo basically at 9-10 minutes the fight is over?
17:44.27shieldbif you haven't killed him by then, you lose
17:44.30OverloadUTBarbanus: I agree!
17:44.40NeoTronnetherspite is a bit rough
17:44.54BarbanusI just had to redo my bars last night .. and it was a pain in the ass :)
17:45.01shieldbillhoof starts spamming shadowbolt volleys for 5k and hits tanks for ~13k for his enrage
17:45.06shieldbsomething like that
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17:45.32NeoTronimho illhoof is easier than netherspite
17:45.33shieldbNeoTron, nah, netherspite is easy once people understand the fight. If you're having trouble keeping up with dps just stay in the room during the netherbreath phases
17:45.49NeoTronwe got him down to 50% in less than an hour of attempts with a less than optimal raid
17:46.15shieldbNeoTron, I found I had to macro all four rotations and call out 5 second countdowns for rotations for it to work
17:46.26NeoTronhmm
17:46.37NeoTronhow do you handle red? 2 tanks and two other classes ?
17:46.43shieldbyeah
17:46.55shieldbfor red I go Tank1 -> Healer 3 -> Tank2 -> Healer 2
17:46.59NeoTrontank -> 35 ticks and then in with a healer?
17:47.08shieldbyeah
17:47.13NeoTronok
17:47.21NeoTronwe had, for some god awful reason, 3 tanks
17:47.26NeoTron2 warriors and a pally
17:47.30shieldbif the in room phase starts to go long have someone who isn't on the red beam at all jump in and take it
17:47.33BarbanusRed, we did Tank 1, Paladin, Tank 2, Hunter with his dodge talent thingy
17:47.35NeoTronwhich of course cut DPS by quite a lot
17:47.44NeoTronthe pally was tnak specced btw, not healer
17:48.05BarbanusI was the pally
17:48.07NeoTronso anyone can take the dmg he does when in the red beam initially?
17:48.09Barbanusand I'm heal spec
17:48.11Barbanusand its fine
17:48.16Fisker-You can't like OWN money man
17:48.27NeoTronwell my point was we wasted a spot on a third tank
17:48.34shieldbNeoTron, yeah red beam gives you 31k extra max hp and an aggro lock
17:48.36NeoTronbecause ofr some reason they thought it was needed
17:48.51BarbanusNeoTron, how many paladins do you bring?
17:48.55shieldband then your max hp ticks down as you sit in the beam
17:49.05Barbanusdo you have a hunter with deterrance? (thats golden imo)
17:49.16kagarock: ping
17:49.34shieldbfor actual classes it went prot war -> holy paladin -> feral druid -> resto druid in bear form
17:49.55Barbanuswe did prot warr, holy paladin, dps warr, hunter
17:50.09NeoTronI assume you use the green beam for healers?
17:50.29shieldbyeah green I do healer 1 -> healer 2 -> healer 3 -> healer 4
17:50.34NeoTronfor some reason I again don't understand they insisted using the green beam on non-mana classes only
17:50.44NeoTronbecause "healing is fine" and "don't want to waste mana"...
17:50.45shieldbif someone dies a rogue can take the green beam to stop netherspite from healing
17:51.04shieldbNeoTron, whoever is in the green beam should be doing the majority of healing on the raid and the other healers are taking it easy to mana regen
17:51.27BarbanusI believe we used a rogue in the green beam
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17:51.44Tornhoofit doesn't really matter who takes the green beam if no healer is around
17:52.06shieldbblue beam is easy if you have a warlock with over 10k buffed hp.. they don't have to rotate :)
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17:52.10Tornhoofa warlock might use it too, huge first aid ticks ;)
17:52.32CIA-1803trh * r30041 10VanasKoS/modules/MinimapButton.lua: VanasKoS: fixed minimap button showing sometimes when disabled
17:52.44NeoTronheh
17:52.47NeoTronyeah I was the warlock
17:52.52NeoTrondrain life for 1350 or something
17:52.59Arrowmastercrap im gona have to work on getting over 10k hp for that fight
17:53.01nevcairielwe generally stuff a rogue or warrior on the green beam when no healer wants it for mana regen
17:53.04shieldbyou just need hots to stack on them at around 10 seconds before the phase is due to end so that they don't efectively get oneshot by void zones + the shadow aura
17:53.15Barbanusyea .. the blue beam is all about warlock / shadow priest
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17:53.23Barbanusshadow priest vamp ticks are huge
17:53.28Barbanusand the warlock drain life spams
17:53.28NeoTronand yes I had that problem when the phase ended
17:53.31Barbanusand its easymode
17:54.03Barbanuswe never had a healer in the green beam
17:54.04shieldbwe had a rogue standing in line of the blue beam in melee so the warlock could step out of the beam if things got too scary and the beam would just jump to the rogue
17:54.09Healthevl: That mount macro you pasted earlier doesn't seem to work. I always get the horsie!
17:54.33Barbanuswe had a rogue start off, while the tank was in the red beam .. and then the tank came out of red, I went in .. and the rogue / tank swapped in green
17:54.53Barbanusnot really sure why .. but mana was never an issue for us anyways
17:55.06NeoTronshieldb: yah
17:55.12JJSheetslmao
17:55.17NeoTronI noticed 50 stacks was no problem.. until I stopped drain life
17:55.36JJSheetsI do have it working.... but it's not clean yet.  :)  be patient.  :p
17:55.41BarbanusI'm waiting for the paladin +mana from getting healed to get nerfed hardcore
17:55.55BarbanusI'm expecting them to change it so overheals dont give you mana anymore
17:56.23Barbanuscause seriously .. this is hax http://wow.tecnobrat.com/videos/infinatemana.wmv (its only like 2mb)
17:56.25OminousJJSheets: i am only joking, i cant play tonight soo much work
17:56.36shieldboh, any reason bigwigs only detects illhoof's sacrifice on a player once it lands?
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17:56.48JJSheetslol well... hopefully it'll be committed when you do have a chance to play.  :)
17:56.57NeoTronwe'll see how we manage to get back to netherspite again
17:57.15shieldbwith scrolling combat text / target of target I get a "Terestrian Illhoof begins to cast Sacrifice" while targeting the player who will be sacrificed, then goes back to the aggro target
17:57.17NeoTrontrying to start 2 kara-raids this week and for aran we had used a rather unbalanced raid for best success chance
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17:57.35CIA-1803rabbit * r30042 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Netherspite.lua Terestian.lua): BigWigs: Add enrage timers for Netherspite and Illhoof.
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17:57.49shieldbso you can tell who's getting it before it lands rather then waiting until it lands on someone then start spam healing
17:58.29BarbanusNeoTron, like what?
17:58.47NeoTronBarbanus: we had 2 rogues, 2 warriors (1 dps), ench shammy
17:58.54NeoTronheavy melee basically
17:59.21NeoTronalthough ironically we ended up needing the ench shaman for healing to actually beat him
17:59.31BarbanusWe use, Prot warrior, dps warr, rogue, ele shaman, shadow priest, restro druid, holy paladin (me), hunter, lock, holy/disc priest
17:59.55shieldbNeoTron, you guys burning him down without a poly with that makeup?
18:00.02NeoTronnope
18:00.05NeoTronlacking gear
18:00.08shieldbahh
18:00.10Barbanuswe are with our group
18:00.21NeoTronand for some unknown reason interrupts didn't happen as much as they should have
18:00.23Barbanuswe cleared to nightbane in 1 night
18:00.27NeoTronbad coordination or something
18:00.36Barbanusahh .. interrupts are the key to it
18:00.41Barbanusand timing them right
18:00.48shieldbif you're trying to avoid a polymorph make sure you don't interrupt arcane missiles :)
18:00.49Barbanuslike waiting until the last second of the cast
18:00.58Barbanusyea, what shield said too
18:01.04Barbanusits the longest cast
18:01.08NeoTronyeah we stopped doing AM
18:01.20Barbanusand its REALLY easy to heal through
18:01.22shieldbhe's already spent the mana for the cast upfront so you aren't saving any by interrupting it
18:01.36Barbanussince you get ticks, and you can see who is taking damage (from a healer perspective)
18:01.52Barbanusshieldb, haha that too
18:02.01Barbanus(I actually didnt even think of that)
18:02.09NeoTronI suspect future kills will be easier
18:02.28Barbanusneo, no lock?
18:02.41Barbanuslock is hax for the adds.
18:02.42shieldbif our group doesn't look dps heavy enough to kill him without a polymorph we just get him to 45% then manaburn him until a polymorph
18:02.47NeoTronI'm the lock
18:02.52Barbanusbanish one, chain fear the rest
18:02.53NeoTronand we didn't have too much problems with the adds
18:02.55Barbanusohhhh .. okay :)
18:03.07Barbanusyea, as long as you are leet :P
18:03.12NeoTroncan't chain fear the rest solo but chain fear one and try to deal with the other 2
18:03.25Barbanusoh, our locks do it :P
18:03.31NeoTroncan't
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18:03.36shieldbshaman can keep them locked down pretty easily with a rank1 earthshock. I don't think they have a melee attack
18:03.39NeoTronthe aoe fear has a 40s cooldown and like 8s duration
18:03.50Barbanusnot aoe
18:03.56Barbanusthey use single fear
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18:04.09Barbanusit just keeps them busy not casting, thats the goal
18:04.12Funkeh`hey
18:04.17NeoTronso use fear as an interrupt
18:04.23Barbanusexactly
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18:04.48Barbanusthey basically banish one .. and the rotate fearing the rest
18:04.54Barbanusand no one really takes any damage
18:04.54NeoTronstill the water bolt cast time (or whatever they use) can't be that long.
18:05.02NeoTronin either case, that wasn't a huge deal
18:05.10Barbanusit cuts the damage down by like 80% at least ..
18:05.14NeoTronmain problems we had was healing after sheep and overall healing
18:05.20Barbanusbut yea .. if you aren't having any issues, then thats cool
18:05.36Barbanuspeople dieing from blizzards?
18:05.41NeoTronnot so much anymore
18:05.52NeoTronhad some bad lock (conflag, blizzard, dead)
18:05.53shieldbNeoTron, that's why we force a polymorph at 45% if we're not going to kill him without one, to try to avoid having a polymorph while the elementals are out
18:05.53ElkanoBarbanus, wrt to your question about ItemDB: no it doesn't directly, but /script GameTooltip:SetHyperlink(id) should work
18:05.57NeoTronbad luck even
18:06.11NeoTronshieldb: yeah we tried that as well. stopped DPS etc. it helped
18:06.17Barbanusheh. we had like one night where everyone died from blizzards / wreaths
18:06.28NeoTronwe had no wreath problems at all
18:06.35BarbanusElkano, whats the big benefit of it over itemsync? memory usage?
18:06.43ElkanoSaint-N: since ItemDB only operates on the internal client cache I'd say no
18:06.47Barbanusyea .. it was a bad night ...
18:07.04JJSheetsOminous, do you happen to play a druid?
18:07.04shieldbpre 2.0.10 we had one pally who kept on getting really bad luck where he'd bubble himself and then flame wreath would apply and immediately detonate before he could cancel the aura
18:07.17OminousJJSheets: sorry no
18:07.26JJSheetsk
18:07.27Barbanusshieldb, we had a rogue that CoS like 4 times...
18:07.35shieldb>.>
18:07.37ElkanoBarbanus, I haven't used ItemSync lately but as I said, feel free to test ItemDB: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4418-ElkanosItemDB.html
18:07.42BarbanusUntil I finally saw what he was doing
18:07.48Barbanusand yelled at him in vent
18:07.54Barbanusmany swear words were said
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18:08.07Barbanusreplace many with about 100
18:08.27BarbanusElkano, not in svn?
18:09.00NeoTronso for illhoof, how do two tanks manage illhoof and his pet so if the MT gets sacrificed the Ot has sufficient threat?
18:09.04Elkanocurrent version isn't. I started some recoding a while back but it was postponed to give EBB some love ;)
18:09.19BarbanusElkano, ahh okay cool .. I'll send the link home then
18:09.22NeoTronbasically we were using hellfire method so I cause quite a lot of threat on those two (but we had, again, 3 tanks)
18:09.28BarbanusNeoTron, we use a paladin to tank the pet
18:09.35NeoTronhealer pally?
18:09.35shieldbNeoTron, the elite imp is tauntable I believe
18:09.39BarbanusNeo, yep
18:09.43NeoTrondoes he heal still?
18:09.45Barbanusyep
18:09.47NeoTronhmm
18:09.48Barbanusit was me :)
18:09.53Elkanoit's GUI code is similar to the auction house's ^^
18:09.55NeoTronso you do use 3 people tanking
18:09.57Barbanusthe imp hits like a little bitch... lol
18:10.05Barbanusand then a warlock to kill the adds, with seed of corruption
18:10.14shieldbgo go nether protection!
18:10.20Barbanusand that talent that makes them immune to fire 20% of the time
18:10.24Barbanusthats HAX for that fight
18:10.26Barbanusif you dont have it
18:10.28Barbanusget it ..
18:10.38shieldbyou can't use a warlock for that if they don't have nether protection
18:10.39Barbanusit procs about 90% of the fight
18:11.43NeoTronBarbanus: I found hellfire to work better
18:11.43shieldbtheir seed casts get slowed by the constant hits and then they can't generate enough threat to keep the imps off of the healers
18:11.43NeoTronthat's why I use hellfire
18:11.43Barbanusour warlock just seed of corrupts, and then shadowfurys
18:11.43NeoTronit uses less mana too
18:11.43Barbanusand its gg
18:11.43NeoTronI don't have that much into destruction and I can't keep respeccing for each fight
18:11.48BarbanusI dunno .. its always worked for us, we 1 shotted him with that strat :)
18:11.49NeoTronbut hellfire only does like 350 dmg per tick which is neglectible
18:12.01NeoTronyou have a 41pt destro lock
18:12.03NeoTronwith the hax talent
18:12.07Barbanusyep :P
18:12.07NeoTronI get interrupted too much
18:12.15Barbanusrespec imo :P
18:12.18NeoTronso use more mana doing less DPS
18:12.30NeoTronand no I will not respec for that fight only
18:12.41NeoTronI don't like heavy destruction - the 21 I have now is stretching it
18:12.52Barbanushehe, I'm just playing with ya
18:13.02GagorianSoC even without nether protection is fine
18:13.09GagorianJust have pally with -interruption aura
18:13.13BarbanusI'm not sure how to do it without though .. as we have always done it.
18:13.14NeoTronit worked but again felt hellfire worked better
18:13.24NeoTronwe had no problem with adds
18:13.28BarbanusGagorian, yea .. I was tanking the imp (paladin), so I always had it up anyways
18:13.30NeoTronour problem was insufficient DPS on the chains
18:13.30Barbanuswhile healing
18:13.39shieldbBarbanus, there's lots of different ways to do illhoof effectively
18:13.46GagorianI just spam seed through whole fight, adds die without any problems.. We've never wiped.
18:13.56Barbanusposition the boss so his back is to the circle
18:14.05Barbanusthen your rogues/warriors stand behind the boss
18:14.13Barbanusand when the chains come up, they dont have to move
18:14.24NeoTronyep
18:14.26shieldbour two guild groups both do it very differently and insist that you can't realistically do it any other way :)
18:14.28NeoTronwe didn't have the group
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18:14.46Barbanusshieldb, oh I'm sure there is.
18:14.50NeoTronit was a "ok netherspite trash respawned, let's try illhoof" with a group that was unsuitable for both netherspite and illhoof
18:15.17Herioillhoof is easy
18:15.22Heriohaven't attempted netherspite
18:15.41Heriotry kiting the imp away with a hunter, having a warlock solo the small imps with shadowfury and seed
18:15.51Barbanuswe have a pretty balanced group, 3 range, 2 melee, tank, 3 healers, and then a elemental shaman who heals and dps's
18:16.06Herioafter that it's just whack-a-mole between the chains and illhoof =)
18:16.14NeoTronyou just kite the imp away for the duration of the fight?
18:16.19Herioyeah
18:16.21Gagorianwe just kill the imp
18:16.23Herioit works pretty well
18:16.36Barbanuspaladin tanking the imp is really easy ... he just spams holy shock, and exo
18:16.40Gagorianit respawns a few times but it's not a problem
18:16.51Herioif you kill him he pops up, gets AoE'd and goes nuts on your AoEr and your squishy =/
18:16.55shieldbseems like you'd be better off sticking the big imp in with the little imps so that the AOE kills it occasionally and you get a damage bonus on illhoof for a bit
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18:17.10GagorianHerio: if the tanks don't pay attention maybe
18:17.14NeoTronHerio: that is what happened to us
18:17.17Heriouh
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18:17.22NeoTronat least he got a few hits on me
18:17.28Barbanusshieldb, if the seed doesnt pull off of whatever you have tanking it .. lol
18:17.29GagorianI've never died to the imp even if I got aggro.. he hits like 4.5k
18:17.46Barbanushe his me for like 1k
18:17.46Herioif pay attention you mean be able to generate massive agro on a mob the instant it spawns sure...
18:17.50shieldbthe big imp is tauntable so it shouldn't be a problem ;)
18:17.52Barbanusand he hits SLOOOW
18:18.09Barbanuswhat class are you Gagorian?
18:18.17GagorianTbh, SoC doesn't do massive threat on a single target (warlock).
18:18.26NeoTronBarbanus: oh so you tank him outside of aoe range?
18:18.42Herio1k every couple seconds on all the imps, including the big one
18:18.44BarbanusNeoTron, yea .. I tanked him in a corner
18:18.47NeoTronah
18:19.06Herioif you're going to do that, why not kite him away o.o
18:19.10BarbanusGagorian, we were using a holy paladin to tank him
18:19.23GagorianI guess that works
18:19.30BarbanusHerio, cause the holy paladin can tank him and keep healing .. and it hardly does any damage .. lol
18:19.42Barbanusif you are kiting him .. you are losing a dps
18:19.42GagorianWE just kill everything, when imp respawns he's killed again in 10 seconds. I just tank all the small shitty imps
18:20.08NeoTronmany strats
18:20.14BarbanusGagorian, we tried that strat .. didnt work for us
18:20.19NeoTronmost importantly though this fight doesn't seem very hard
18:20.29NeoTroneveryone says it's omghard but really, it's quite a simple fight
18:20.33Barbanusour other group is having a hell of a time on it
18:20.35NeoTronfrom a technical /strategical standpoint
18:20.40BarbanusNeoTron, thats why you are wiping .. imo
18:20.56NeoTronwe've been there for 50 minutes in a group with 3 tanks
18:21.01NeoTronthat's why we're wiping
18:21.05Barbanushonestly .. confidence plays a lot into it :)
18:21.12NeoTronone more DPS and we'd be fine
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18:21.15kagarock: ping
18:21.17Barbanusremember when Nef was hard? :P
18:21.26Barbanusphase 1 was impossible...
18:21.31NeoTronI remember onyxia being hard
18:21.35Barbanushaha yea
18:21.37Heriolol
18:21.41shieldbBarbanus, remember when magmadar was hard?
18:21.42shieldb:)
18:21.44HerioI 4 manned that last night
18:21.57Barbanusits 1/2 strat, 1/2 being confident to kick the shit out of the boss :)
18:22.04kenlyricmag was never hard.
18:22.10Herioyou really don't need 2 tanks in karazhan...
18:22.12Barbanusno .. .mag was ...
18:22.27shieldbkenlyric, the first week when you only had one hunter with tranq shot :)
18:22.37shieldb"oops it missed"
18:22.38Heriono...
18:22.44kenlyricshieldb: true.
18:22.56Heriohis enrage is kinda weak =/
18:23.01BarbanusGolemagg was never hard...
18:23.01Barbanuslol
18:23.24kenlyricBarbanus: agreed.
18:23.31BarbanusI remember getting to him the first time
18:23.35kenlyricmy first raiding guild never wiped on him.
18:23.48kenlyricthough once we lived with just a hunter and priest alive
18:23.51kenlyric<---- priest
18:23.53Barbanusmy friend told me "he took the short bus to MC, you will 1 shot him"
18:24.00NeoTronHerio: hmm. How do you do the ushers without 2 tanks? Moroes? Romulo and Julianne?
18:24.00Barbanusand yep .. sure enough
18:24.03Barbanus1 shot him
18:24.28kenlyricgolemagg was only hard if you didn't know how to do the fight, and didn't pull his adds far enough away or let them die.
18:24.41Barbanusthey cant die ..
18:24.50kenlyricoh, I thought they could... we enver tried :)
18:24.52Barbanusthey just get full health again :)
18:25.02NeoTronI once had to heal a dog tank who wasn't defensive specced and had crap gear (an alt)
18:25.02kenlyricgarr is th eone that's really bad if you kill all his adds.
18:25.03Barbanusoh .. that was the funnest part
18:25.06NeoTronthat was actually rather hard
18:25.07shieldbkenlyric, not true
18:25.15shieldbthat was only the case for a few months
18:25.21BarbanusI had to heal a tank .. and the tank would tank with a 2h, and we'd try to see how many times we could kill it
18:25.33shieldbit went away in 1.7 or maybe even earlier then that
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18:25.54shieldball he does when you kill all his adds is get a ~20% swing speed bonus or somesuch
18:25.58Barbanusonce, we "walked the dogs"
18:26.10Barbanuswe ran them around in a huge circle around the room
18:26.11Barbanusjust for fun
18:26.21kenlyricshieldb: oh, ok. Again, nothing we ever tried.
18:26.25BarbanusI was laughing so hard :P
18:26.34Herioonce, we had a pally dps down a dog lol
18:26.49Heriowell pally tank the dog, rogue DPSed it
18:26.56BarbanusHerio, that was the fun part
18:26.58Herioit got healled to full at like 20%
18:27.04shieldbI know he did start spawning and instantly detonating an add at one point, but I think it was removed fairly quickly but everyone was too paranoid to try it after that :)
18:27.10kenlyricthe guild I was in spent like 4 weeks wiping on mag, so I never considered the whole tranq shot problem.
18:27.17Barbanuslike I said before .. we had a warrior tank it with a 2h, and see how many times he could kill it :P
18:27.18kenlyricthey hadn't figured out max range for healers.
18:27.46Barbanushorde or alliance?
18:28.09kenlyricalliance. So the tank wasn't feared, but all his healers were :)
18:28.14Barbanusit was MUCH harder for horde .. tank learning to stance dance
18:28.17shieldbI know near the time right before the expansion came out when we were running naxx we'd take part of our naxx raid into MC through garr/geddon to farm for a thunderfury and just pull all of garr's adds together and AOE them down
18:28.17kenlyricand usually, right into big piles of flame.
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18:30.13Barbanusomg .. it was so funny in arena's last night ... you know the arena with the bridge?
18:30.31Barbanuswe put a frost trap on the bridge, and then me and a shaman would stand on the pillars and you cant make the jump when slowed, its impossible.
18:30.42Barbanusso we had a warrior, run around, and try to jump SEVEN TIMES.
18:30.56Barbanushe made it up once
18:30.58Barbanusand then fell off
18:31.06BarbanusI couldnt heal .. cause I was laughing so hard
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18:31.53kergothhahah
18:32.03shieldbBarbanus, that sounds as amusing as the 5v5 arena video kicking around google video or youtube or whatever where five casters just wand the other team to death
18:32.24Barbanushaha
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18:32.29shieldbthe losing team is all warriors or something retarded
18:32.35Barbanusrofl
18:36.10Barbanusoh, and then there was the team we kept beating on that arena
18:36.21Barbanusso they decided to not leave their hut thing
18:36.54Barbanusour hunter baited their 2 mages and 1 warlock .. using no mana, taking pot shots from the bridge
18:37.02Barbanusthey finally after 16 mins, wasted all of their mana
18:37.05Barbanusand we owned em
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18:40.41StephmwAaaaaargh!
18:41.19Stephmwwhy, oh, why did Blizz make the runecloth bag pattern so damn painful to get?
18:41.31Barbanuslol why do you want it?
18:41.53Stephmwto make some bags? ;)
18:42.00Stephmwcheap skillups really
18:42.06Barbanusisnt there easier to make ones now?
18:42.07Barbanusahh
18:42.29StephmwI'm open to suggestions though ;)
18:42.33Stephmwnone on the AH
18:43.20Barbanusgo to winterspring and buy it from the vendor that sells it?
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18:43.36Stephmw... I'm camping her
18:43.41Stephmwit's a timed spawn
18:43.45Stephmwrandom timer
18:44.26cncfanaticsgo quest some, and go back in an hour tbh :p
18:44.57BarbanusIsn't Runecloth Belt better to skill up?
18:44.59Barbanuscheaper
18:45.00kergothi want to know why the exilir of lesser agility recipe is such a low drop rate world drop
18:45.03Barbanusand trained
18:45.04kergothelixir, too
18:45.13shieldbdoes 15 agi to gloves drop anywhere reasonable now, or is it still AQ only?
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18:45.49DeificAnyone here able to help with some eqdkp site set up?
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18:47.48knarf^Darn it why is there no info on wowwiki about OnTooltipSetItem :<
18:49.08StephmwBarbanus: convinced me... I'm making the belts while passing the time
18:49.29yacoobDo you experience nicely formated UTF-8 after the colon?: żółtą żabkę pierzgło źdźbło.
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18:49.43Antiarc|Workshieldb: Still only AQ
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18:56.57chuckgAnyone around who's extremely comfortable with chronometer?
18:59.15DeificAnyone around that knows anything about eqdkp and eqdkp and DKPmon_eqDKP ?
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19:04.41Klazarwhats the easiest way to tell my group# in AB? simplemap/cartographer shows me as an arrow not a # like everone else in the group
19:04.59ilifinstrfind() is the same as string.find ?
19:05.11chuckgI think so ilifin.
19:05.17kergothyes, strfind is a global blizzard creates for convenience
19:05.19chuckgAre you using agUF klazar?
19:05.28Aens|SuperiorityKlazar: get a unitframe or raidframe mod that tells you which group you are in
19:05.29ilifinjust trying to figure out the format for WIM's ignore filters
19:05.38kergothbut its easier to just yourstring:find()
19:05.44kergoth<3 the lua 5.1 string metatable
19:05.46Klazarkk i have unitfram and grid
19:05.54ilifinas Elkano's ItemDB sync spam is spamming open lots of WIM windows :p
19:06.10ilifinif(strfind(strlower(theMSG), strlower(key)) ~= nil) then
19:06.30chuckgIf you do a custom text in agUF add: [raidgroup]
19:06.35ilifinthat's from WIM's source, the function that checks whether a filter ignores a message or not
19:06.36chuckgIt'll show up when you're in raids.
19:06.38Elkanowell, you can disable it in the lua file.. but if WIM was a good addon it would allow you to set a filter
19:06.40ilifindoes that use gregex?
19:06.41chuckgAnd tell you what group you're in.
19:06.50ilifinit is Elkano, I'm just trying to find the format
19:07.02ilifinas ^\[ItemDB-(.*)] doesn't work
19:07.12Stephmwsweet... wizardweave leggings take 1xDream Dust to make, but give out 2+ when DE'd :)
19:07.13Klazarchuckg: thnx
19:07.14kergothilifin: its just doing a case insensitive search for the ignore'd key in the message.  
19:07.15ArrowmasterWIM doesnt play well with AceComm
19:07.26ilifins/\]/\\\/
19:07.27Elkano^\[ItemDB-(.*)\] ?
19:07.28kergothilifin: i suggest you read the lua manual, the string pattern section
19:07.32chuckgPersonally I add mine after my character name.
19:08.01ilifindoesn't work, Elkano
19:08.26Elkano^\[ItemDB\-(.*)\] ?
19:08.30ilifinand if I don't escape the [], WIM treats it as a [A-z] it seems
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19:08.42ilifinand stops intercepting whispers :S
19:09.20ilifinnow unless it saves the filters in a stupid way..
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19:10.06cubicoolQuick question: is there a BLP converter for Linux, or do I have to write one?
19:10.40Elkanobtw, ilifin, did you test ebb?
19:10.50ilifin["^\\[ItemDB\\-(.*)\\]"] = "Ignore", <- sup double-escaping
19:11.10ilifinno Elkano, didn't been toying with itemdb
19:11.20Elkanoah, k ^^
19:11.46ilifinthere's quite a few on my realm with it
19:11.48Kaeltenhrm I wonder why wowace.com suddly has a 15 load
19:11.53ilifinas I had around 40 wim windows spamming itemlink syncing >_>
19:14.04Fisker-Kaelten
19:14.52KaeltenFisker-:
19:14.58Fisker-oh yeah
19:15.10Fisker-KC_Items splits stacks on alt+rightclick?
19:15.47Kaeltenum, don't remember
19:16.26Kaeltengeez apache is getting hammered
19:17.08pastamancer<PROTECTED>
19:17.24Kaeltennot sure :s
19:17.48Kaeltenbecause of the way its setup I don't see real hosts on the server-status log
19:18.02sbuhmm
19:18.03Kaeltenbut its doing about 100 requests a sec
19:18.10sbuWTB infernal timer for prince :)
19:18.18sbu(aka despawn timer)
19:18.37pastamancerKaelten: so check the squid log :p
19:18.55Kaeltenya I'm workin towards that :)
19:20.39KaeltenI might just have to lower the number of children apache allows
19:20.41Kaelten:(
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19:22.19Fisker-You're gonna kill the children?
19:22.20Fisker-:(
19:22.27Kaeltenlol
19:22.28pastamancersave the children!
19:22.43Kaeltenwell I don't see the same page getting hit over and over
19:22.54Kaeltennor do I see the same ip hitting over and over
19:27.36pastamancerwell, there's only 174 apache processes running
19:27.49pastamancer:p
19:28.17ilifinhmmm string.find uses % to escape magic characters? *perlconfusion*
19:28.28pastamanceritsnotlikeperl
19:28.36ilifinAHA
19:28.45ilifin^%[ItemDB works, Elkano :p
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19:35.11Antiarc|WorkHey, cool, a sneak peak of the new class they're putting in the next expansion
19:35.33Antiarc|Workhttp://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/expertisecalculators/main/jedi/index.vm
19:35.34Antiarc|Work:V
19:36.35Funkeh`server down?
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19:44.08nymbiawho blew up wowace?
19:44.14nymbialookin at you, Funkeh`
19:44.31kenlyricfirst reporter broke it, that's the rule
19:44.43nymbiahaha
19:44.58Funkeh`aww
19:45.05Funkeh`nymbia gets a chance to blame me thats not good
19:45.21nymbia;)
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19:49.53nymbiaow
19:49.55CIA-1803kagaro * r30045 10WoWHead-Cart-Scraper/cart_db_generator.rb: WoWHead-Cart-Scraper: fixed an erro ron generating node id's
19:50.04Loki|muhsvn seems to be up
19:50.08Fisker-aww yeah
19:50.12Fisker-what's that kagaro?
19:50.17nymbiakagaro: what's that do? sounds fun
19:50.27Fisker-yeah
19:50.28Grollooh kagaro nice :D and does it do the math right now? :D
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19:50.45kergothnymbia: it steals the locations of the herbs and all from wowhead and outputs cart savedvars
19:50.48Fisker-"Sc-raper" sounds nice
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19:50.50kergothquite nifty, used it last week
19:50.51Fisker-oh :I
19:51.05nymbiakergoth: nice
19:51.17Kaeltenok now that I've cleaned the coffee out from underneeth my keys on my laptop
19:51.22KaeltenI can look at the server some more.
19:51.25nymbialol
19:51.34nymbiaone of those days eh Kaelten ?
19:51.37Grolllol
19:51.43Kaeltenyep
19:51.51Kaeltenapache has about 150 or so processes running
19:51.55Kaeltenits a little much
19:51.56Kaeltenlol
19:52.02nymbiahahaha
19:52.08OverloadUT|Workkergoth: Does wowhead have an interface to do that all friendly like, or do you have to actually crawl the page?
19:52.15nymbia~blame Funkeh`
19:52.28purlACTION blames Funkeh` (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
19:52.28Grollbtw anyone know what cpu one should buy today? ie has amd come out with something that beats intell lately? :P me is getting rich in a few weeks so new comp here i come :D
19:52.28Klazarlol though id done something it seem to happen right when i clicked to check the grid docs
19:52.28Kaeltenits not a ddos or anything
19:52.31Kaeltenjust a shit load of traffic
19:52.37OverloadUT|WorkGroll: I believe Core 2 Duo is still king right now
19:52.39nymbiaOverloadUT|Work: gotta crawl it
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19:52.46GrollOverloadUT okies
19:52.52kergothOverloadUT|Work: dunno, ask kagaro, he wrote the scraper, i just made use of it :P
19:53.22Funkeh`raping nymbia
19:53.25Funkeh`good idea
19:53.26nymbiaOverloadUT|Work: wowhead's been 'working on' some xml feed type stuff for... since the day they released
19:53.28Funkeh`damn gnomes
19:53.35kergothheh
19:53.39OverloadUT|WorkHeh
19:53.47OverloadUT|WorkThey should just expose read access to their sql database ;)
19:53.59nymbiait's now at the very bottom of the 'under development' section
19:54.06pastamancercsv dumps would be plenty
19:54.15pastamancerthat's what I did with the everquest items site I run
19:54.24OverloadUT|WorkIt would be really nice
19:54.31trhis there a ace library that gathers all charnames on a account?
19:54.33OverloadUT|WorkI could make an importer for my questobjectives mod ;)
19:54.39Kaeltensomeone must have been spidering the site, because now its over.... :s
19:54.53chuckgnymbia, I just recently asked them for an update on it.
19:54.56nymbiawell until they do they just get to get raped by the PT3 dataminer since it has to run circles to get some data
19:54.58chuckgThey said their primary focus is profiles.
19:55.05chuckg:(
19:55.07Kaeltenbut it didn't look like anything particular :s
19:55.21nymbiapft, who needs profiles now that the armory is up
19:55.30Loki|muhnymbia: ack
19:55.55CIA-1803saroz * r30046 10BigWigs/Azeroth/Emeriss.lua: BigWigs: Emeriss: make that :Icon()
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19:56.56Fisker-nymbia can you run the DATA RAEP yourself?
19:57.15pastamancerarmory doesn't let you have a wishlist :(
19:57.38nymbiaFisker-: the pt3 miner you mean?
19:57.42kagaroback
19:57.43Fisker-yeah
19:57.47kagarowas someone looking for me ?
19:58.02kagaromy colloquy was dock bouncing
19:58.11nymbiaFisker-: it's just command line lua
19:58.31nymbiakagaro: people were asking about the wowhead scraper
19:58.41kagaroahh gotcha
19:58.46Fisker-dataminer.lua?
19:58.53nymbiaFisker-: yea
19:59.00Fisker-fap
19:59.13Fisker-need to get me some lua intepreter then
19:59.15kagaroI was lazy and didnt want to build the socket library for lua
19:59.27Kaeltennymbia: once curse's db gets more fleshed out it'll be better to access since we're going to offer xml feeds on jsut about everything.
19:59.39Grollkagaro i was :)
19:59.43Grolldid u fix the maths?
19:59.47nymbiaKaelten: nice
19:59.49vhaarrCryect: http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Getting_an_Account
20:00.02KaeltenCryect: just send me an email and I'll get you setup :)
20:00.09kagaroGroll: yes
20:00.15Grollwoohoo great :D
20:00.15Loki|muhcurse becomes slower and slower for me :(
20:00.40kagaroI just updated the thread with a new zip file
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20:00.49Grollgreat gonna dl it :)
20:00.58Grollhow does one use the wowhead scraper btw?
20:01.04kagaroit was a truncation problem on the id
20:01.46kagaroGroll: get it from svn, then type  ruby cart_db_generator.rb  in the directory you nzipped it. (assuming you have rubby installed)
20:01.55Grollk
20:02.42cubicoolI hate to ask again but maybe there are new people. :) Anyone know of a BLP converter for Linux?
20:03.05cubicoolGoogle produces nothing and I'm not able to run the windows tools using Wine.
20:03.43kagarocubicool BLP: to something else?
20:03.44nymbiacubicool: it's hard enough to get a good one for windows, i doubt you'll have much luck
20:04.30cubicoolHmm, I wonder why the AddonKit makes such major use of them then? Seems kinda' stpuid on Blizzards part...
20:04.48cubicoolMoreso for them to not provide some mechanism to get the art.
20:04.52OverloadUT|WorkHave you tried XnView through Wine?
20:04.57cubicoolNo...
20:05.00kagarocubicool: http://wowdev.org/wiki/index.php/Wowimage
20:05.03OverloadUT|WorkIt's a great one for Windows
20:05.07Tornhoofxnview exists for linux too
20:05.08Tornhoofafaik
20:05.58OverloadUT|WorkOh, yeah it does. So I'd recommend that. ;)
20:06.40kagarowowimage is a java program, it converts the blp to png images with an easy drap and drop
20:08.07CIA-1803saroz * r30047 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua: BigWigs/Terestain: Engage warning
20:12.07cubicoolkagaro: Well, wowimage looks promising--but DnD doesn't work in Linux.
20:12.27CIA-1803nymbia 07PT3 * r30048 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua Sets.lua):
20:12.27CIA-18Mendeleev:
20:12.27CIA-18- TradeskillResultMatsReverse -> TradeskillResultMats.Reverse
20:13.01CIA-1803nymbia * r30049 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
20:13.01CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
20:13.01CIA-18- TradeskillResultMats -> TradeskillResultMats.Forward
20:13.02CIA-18- TradeskillResultMatsReverse -> TradeskillResultMats.Reverse
20:13.02CIA-18- (so the LoD loader knows which module to load)
20:13.16kergothcubicool: DnD works in linux.. perhaps you mean it doesnt work with the java app?
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20:13.45cubicoolOf course it works in Linux in general. :) But with this particular Java app (and certainly NOT all java) it doesn't. :)
20:14.51kergothhmm, should add whitelist/blacklist to automaton's sell module
20:15.36kergothi had sold off my mining pick cause i had a weapon that functioned as one.. but it was grey.. so automaton's autosell sold it off, and i couldnt mine anymore :P
20:15.44kagarocubicool: I was using it on my mac since there really isnt anything else for it
20:16.31OverloadUT|Workkergoth: I wanted to use the weapon as my mining pick but I anticipated that I would do the same thing ;)
20:16.52kergothhehe
20:17.49hastekergoth: a grey weapon that worked as a mining pick :o ?
20:18.23kagaroback shortly Ive got to reboot
20:18.40kergothhaste: yeah, weapons that are picks can function as mining picks now.. and i'm a low level char, so..
20:18.54kergothfigured itd work as a backup weapon as well as a pick
20:19.09kergoth(was on my level 24 hunter)
20:19.24hasteI didn't know that :D
20:19.55hastestrange that it's grey in that case tho'
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20:23.04Antiarc|WorkWho maintains the durability plugin for FuBar?
20:23.08Antiarc|Work(Too lazy to look it up)
20:23.55Antiarc|WorkIt's inaccurate for rogues with throwing weapons, because the throwing weapon doesn't lose durability when you die
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20:24.12Antiarc|WorkSo even though my gear average is at 18%, I show at 46% because my throwing weapon is at 99% durability.
20:24.13Antiarc|WorkOr whatever.
20:25.56CIA-1803funkydude * r30050 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua:
20:25.56CIA-18BigWigs: Karazhan/Terestian:
20:25.56CIA-18- cleanup engage/enrage stuff
20:26.19CryectIllhoof can enrage never knew that
20:26.52nymbiathink it's just a low health thing iirc
20:27.31Cryectmust be so minor I don't notice it really
20:27.31Funkeh`neither did i
20:27.40Funkeh`vhaarr added it so ill go allong with it :D
20:27.41OminousJJ if you need testing witha  druid i may be able to get one
20:28.04JJSheetsI'm leveling one up, but you're welcome to do so as well.
20:28.08vhaarryeah, someone was in here earlier complaining that BW didn't have enrage timers for it
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20:28.12vhaarrso I just added them
20:28.37Funkeh`i hate how people say why doesn't it have this, and don't give any evidence that it does 'this'
20:28.41OminousJJ: but stealth is like a high lvl, when i can probs borrow a friends acocunt
20:29.12JJSheetsk.  I'll let you know when to test it... I'm cleaning some stuff up atm
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20:29.27Cryectshrug, enrage timers are pretty hard to hit in karazhan never saw any of them hit made me quite bored I had nothing really to create boss addons for
20:29.55Funkeh`indeed
20:30.12Funkeh`your dps has to be pretty weak ^^
20:30.45OminousJJ, k
20:30.51nymbiaonly one we ever have it happen on is netherspite since we cheese phase 2
20:30.52Funkeh`less loot to healers more loot to dps
20:30.53Ominousps can someone say my name please
20:30.58Ominousto test a notification
20:31.01JJSheetsOminous
20:31.04Funkeh`balance it out
20:31.06Ominousexcellent :D
20:31.10JJSheets:)
20:32.18OminousJJSheets: just got the druid confirmed
20:32.22JJSheetsk
20:33.01JJSheetsI have to clean up everything and get a basic script set up so you can see how to enable the stances.
20:33.09CIA-1803trh * r30052 10VanasKoS/ (GUICreate.lua VanasKoSGUI.lua): VanasKoS: fixed too long descriptions showing outside of the frame
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20:33.44cubicoolkagaro: Thanks. :) I can use wowimage in commandline mode! :)
20:34.01kagarocubicool: cool
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20:37.06CryectDoes there still exist a good writeup any where on circular masking in WoW? I know there was the one on the old UI forums but not sure if that was preserved
20:37.25CryectThinking of working on Pie Charts next http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8119/graphtestxq0.jpg
20:37.50Cryectand vhaarr I've sent another email in for SVN access before you say I'm skipping step 1 again :-p
20:37.56cubicoolCryect: Does the LUA API provide raw drawing functions?
20:38.13Cryectno
20:38.20vhaarrCryect: ^^
20:38.27AKXHaha, neat Cryect!
20:39.00CryectAll drawing is done in a complicated matter of using textures and manipulating their texture coordinates
20:39.08DeificHello
20:39.20DeificAnyone around that knows anything about eqdkp and eqdkp and DKPmon_eqDKP ?
20:39.30trhCryect: so it basically sucks :)
20:39.40Cryectcorrect but it works
20:39.56CryectIn theory its the same thing >_>
20:40.04cubicoolCryect: wow, what a lot of work. :) I guess that's most optimized for gpu's though, so, it's certainly faster than painting pixels manually...
20:40.05Ominouswhat is the action bar numbers for the right bar1 and right bar 2?
20:40.06Cryectbut sure not very intuitive or fast
20:40.37trhcubicool: actually the fastest way would be to create a texture and just have some functions for line drawing for it
20:40.44Cryectyep
20:40.59CryectThere is no reason the API couldn't support non orthogonal textures
20:41.15cubicooltrh: I'm not sure, really; not unless you could use a pixel shader to do it RIGHT on the card. :)
20:41.19Cryectbut it makes things a lot easier for them to not support rotating
20:41.35Cryectcubicool: all 3d API's I know of support drawing lines
20:41.38trhcubicool: in theory you could even let the pixel shader be programmed out of lua... that would be awesome :)
20:41.47Cryectyou don't need any pixel shader for it
20:41.59pastamancerI fear the setcoords wizardry needed to make a filled pie wedge
20:42.28trhtrue, but it'd be awesome if you could change textures and use customized pixelshader for it... a bump-mapped interface would just be AWESOME
20:42.43Cryectyeah would be interesting
20:42.48kergothCryect: thats hot.  thatll be nice for meters.. and i'd think itd be pretty slick to use those to track your income and expenses over time too
20:42.53Cryectbut realtime lighting on my UI I can pass over
20:43.10trhCryect: hehe.. ya.. it's not necessary
20:43.18pastamancerI'm imagning using those graphs to track AH prices
20:43.18DeificAnyone able to help me ?:\
20:43.51Cryectsame pastamancer, thats half the reason I'm implementing the library in hopes someone else will do that since working with the AH irritates me everytime I touch it
20:43.54kergothpastamancer: thatd be very cool.  itd be interesting to show a few related projects in the graph to watch for overall trends
20:44.02yacoobnot really, Deific, we're quite mean to begin with.
20:44.05kergoths/projects/products/
20:44.09kergothsilly fingers
20:44.20Ominousurm.... flexbar2 debug is still on :D
20:44.23yacoobgood name for a drink, kergoth  :)
20:44.26pastamancerCryect: needs box plots!
20:44.29kergothhehe
20:44.37JJSheetsOminous, for dragging, or other things?
20:44.53trhi can imagine pie charts being fun for showing for showing how much damage each of the attackers have made to you :)
20:44.56Ominouswhen i run my script
20:45.00CryectI was never a big fan of box plots :-p
20:45.23Ominous20:43 (DEBUG) FlexBar2 -Ace2-:[20:43:50.662] Registering  UPDATE_BINDINGS  with  KeyBindings_Updat abd suuch like
20:45.27trh<homer> mmhhhmmm pie </homer>
20:45.32JJSheetsOminous, you don't happen to have a line in your script reading: FlexBar2:SetDebugging(true)
20:45.36JJSheetsdo you?
20:45.46JJSheetsif so delete or comment it out with --
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20:45.57JJSheetsotherwise I'll fix that... :)
20:46.05Ominousnope , i do in my core tho
20:46.06pastamancerCryect: they'd be so handy for price data
20:46.11Ominouswhich is unchanged from svn
20:46.17JJSheetscore.lua you mean?
20:46.20Ominousyea
20:46.33kergothi'd still like to implement rrd in lua
20:46.35kergothone of these years
20:46.51JJSheetschange it to false then Ominous, should work from then on.
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20:46.53JJSheetsor
20:47.01trhkergoth: would be nice
20:47.14Ominousyea, i did i was just telling you :)
20:47.25JJSheetsyou could put a line in your script: FlexBar2:SetDebugging(false) if you don't want to modify it in the lua file.  :)
20:47.33JJSheetsI've changed my copy.  :)
20:47.46pastamancerkergoth: oooh
20:47.47JJSheetsit'll be changed in the next commit for sure.
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20:55.18JJSheetscncfanatics, question about calling Group Handlers manually... How the bloody hell do I do it?  i.e. How would I call HorizontalGroup on a group named "Nostromo1"?
20:55.27CIA-1803aileen * r30053 10FuBar_FarmerFu/FarmerFu.lua: FuBar_FarmerFu: stupid nil error
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20:55.47Fisker-but OMGDPS
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20:55.58Fisker-judgement of command for 2000+ :)
20:56.14cncfanaticsJJSheets: FlexBar2.Groups.Handlers.HorizontalGroup(FlexBar2.Buttons[i]);
20:56.19cncfanaticschoose any member of the grp as button
20:57.03Fisker-2300 :)
20:57.13cncfanaticsbtw, did u create ur grp inside or outside the loop ?
20:57.15cncfanaticscan't remember
20:57.20JJSheetscncfanatics, so it runs it on the group of the passed button? That's non-intuitive.  :)
20:57.26JJSheetsoutside
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21:01.16CIA-1803nymbia * r30054 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua:
21:01.16CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
21:01.16CIA-18- Efficiency fix in virtual set generation.
21:01.16CIA-18- :ItemSearch will now load up all LoD modules.
21:01.16CIA-18- A bunch more code comments and a bit of code clarity cleanup, to the point that I'm in danger of the code actually being understandable by people other than me.
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21:03.35knarf^What can you do with OnTooltipSetItem and the characterframe where it is getting called constantly? :>
21:04.00knarf^does not exactly seem effecient to me :)
21:04.32vhaarrknarf^: Nothing. I've already reported it to Blizzard, and they're not going to do anything about it.
21:05.09knarf^I tried adding something to pause the parson but that only results in no data being added to the tooltip :P
21:05.13vhaarrApparently it needs to happen so that cooldowns in tooltips can update, which I think is silly.
21:05.15nymbiaknarf^: you could throttle it i suppose, but not if you need to modify the tooltiip.  it updates constantly because they need it to display cooldown stuff on there and are too lazy to make it update less often
21:05.17knarf^parsing*
21:05.34trhvhaarr: you might have better luck posting on the us-interface boards
21:05.45JJSheetshow often does it update?
21:05.48Ominousare buttons limited to 120?
21:05.50vhaarrOnUpdate.
21:05.50JJSheetsyes
21:06.04JJSheetsOMG OnUpdate?  damn that's inefficient...
21:06.05vhaarrtrh: I've relayed it directly to slouken.
21:06.35trhvhaarr: oh.. maybe they fix it in toc 30000 ;)
21:06.41JJSheetslol
21:07.06nymbiawouldnt be that hard to limit it to once every half-second without losing data accuracy..
21:07.36trhtrue.. but "never touch a running system"
21:07.57NeoTronso isn't it enough to at most update once per second at least?
21:07.57trhlooks like the ui coder really follow that "wisdom"
21:08.06knarf^oh well guess I just gotta live with it then :<
21:08.06DeificIs anyone here
21:08.08Deificable to help me with dkp?
21:08.11DeificTakes 5mins
21:08.23vhaarrknarf^: I'm guessing you're adding lines to the tooltip, so just do what I did with mendy PT3.
21:08.43OverloadUT|WorkDeific: Better to ask the question then ask to ask.
21:08.50OverloadUT|Works/then/than/
21:08.56knarf^vhaarr then I need to dig into your code and find it :P
21:09.01DeificLol
21:09.02DeificYeah
21:09.06knarf^my guild is just gonna have to live with it for now :P
21:09.09Deificim using QDKP_Mon
21:09.14Deificand I want to get it set up with my dkp site
21:09.21Deificso it auto updates or I auto update it completly
21:09.25DeificItems, Players ,raids
21:10.05DeificEQDKP*
21:10.19nymbiaknarf^: i'm guessing he's referring to caching the added lines for each item so it's less processing time per update
21:10.46DeificSomething like that
21:11.31DeificI want the items to actually show on the dkp site, and when you hover over them you see the Item, info from allakazham
21:11.41CIA-1803sylvanaar * r30055 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: do a "/script ACP_Data.NoRecurse = true" to disable recursive enable
21:11.41knarf^hmm how do I add a detatched tooltip to a tooltip, do I need to create my own tooltip then ?
21:12.21knarf^nymbia hmm how does that work? making my own tooltip and then replacing it everytime or what?
21:13.49nymbiaknarf^: to the first question, you could probably just use the existing shoppingtooltips.  to the second.. well, depends on what exactly you're doing
21:14.28knarf^was just toying with the idea of having the data in a tooltip below the itemtooltipbut meh, does not matter :)
21:14.51OminousJJ, sometimes dragging and dropping an icon bugs
21:14.57Ominousit makes the whole group callopse
21:15.13JJSheetshmmmmm
21:15.27JJSheetsyou updated to the last commit?
21:15.56JJSheetsand is it random, or is it reproducable?
21:15.58Ominousyea
21:16.02Ominousill see
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21:16.19Ominousrepcicipble
21:16.22knarf^hmm r = 0.5 g = 0.0 b = 0.5 aint that purple color ?
21:16.27Ominouspickup a spell and put ir down again
21:16.33JJSheetsknarf^,  yes
21:17.00nymbiaknarf^: it'd be more efficient for character frame tooltips, yes, because then you could avoid updating every time the tooltip does.  but less efficient for everything else.. i'd opt for not caring about the character tooltips as much
21:17.03ckknighthrm, how would you make pie charts?
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21:17.26knarf^In the GameTooltip:AddDoubleLine do you need to specify both the left and right colors for it to work ?
21:17.43restoredgetting error now in r30050 BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua
21:18.29restored137: unexpected symbol near "then"
21:18.35knarf^Deific, know a little about eqdkp, but I can't reply to pm, i'm not registered
21:19.25knarf^Deific Just talk here :)
21:19.32Deificokay
21:19.33DeificSo
21:19.38knarf^or tell me how to retrieve my psw
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21:19.45knarf^think I registered once upon a time :P
21:19.46DeificI dont kno, I guess we'll type here
21:20.02vhaarrrestored: fixed
21:20.08CIA-1803rabbit * r30056 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua: BigWigs: Terestian: Bugfix.
21:20.09restoredlurv :)
21:20.12DeificWell, I kinda added one of our 25mans
21:20.18Deificmanually
21:20.18knarf^vhaarr how does the registering work on this network ? :P
21:20.27vhaarrknarf^: I have no idea
21:20.33knarf^hehe, fair enough
21:20.34JJSheetsOminous, I'm not seeing the bug... it could be fixed in my local copy.
21:20.39Deifick so knarf^
21:20.44DeificI got the program EQDKP_Mon
21:20.45Ominouslets hope so :)
21:20.46Deificthat comes with bidder etc
21:20.52DeificTo start doing dkp by that
21:21.02Deificmy question is ..how do I add it to my site..so it auto adds items, the players etc
21:21.08knarf^i'm writing my own for our guild :)
21:21.18knarf^you need the import export module as far as I know
21:21.28DeificThe one that came with the mon eqdkp program?
21:21.29knarf^there is not really much auto you can do to my knowledge
21:21.40DeificI know theres something about recording the log
21:21.54Deificand putting the log on the eqdkp site
21:22.13knarf^http://dkpmon.googlepages.com/
21:22.14knarf^:)
21:22.37DeificI kinda went there alredy but im retarded.
21:22.51knarf^http://dkpmon.googlepages.com/usingdkpmon
21:22.58knarf^http://dkpmon.googlepages.com/usingbidder
21:23.03knarf^should be enough :)
21:23.20knarf^but i'm not gonna bother with it, gonna write our own mod to suit our guilds needs :)
21:23.51Deifichehe
21:24.05Deifici cant immagine if we did dkp for karahzan
21:24.09Deificthank god we didnt
21:24.27Deificbut now gruul and coifang was gonna suck manually , so had to use eqdkp and this mod
21:25.57Deificcustom.numpools = #custom.poolnames -- How many point pools are defined in poolnames
21:25.59Deificwhat does that mean?
21:25.59Deificlol
21:26.25JJSheets#x returns the array size of x
21:26.56DeificOh , so Seperating by dungeons
21:27.04ckknightlol
21:27.12ckknightAtlas v2 uses Dewdrop
21:27.21JJSheetslol ckknight
21:27.21knarf^what rgb value is it that epics uses? :P
21:27.29ckknighthttp://www.atlasmod.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=744
21:27.57nymbiaknarf^: a335ee
21:28.19knarf^nymbia was that in hex? :>
21:28.31nymbiayup
21:28.36knarf^god damn it
21:28.48JJSheetslol
21:30.44nymbiaknarf^: .639, .207, .933
21:30.45knarf^thanks :)
21:30.45ckknightand I do believe he's using my instance retrieval script
21:30.51ckknightyep, he is
21:30.51trhso they make atlas a (worse) cartographer clone.. rofl :)
21:31.00ckknightwhich means I can steal code from him.
21:31.03ckknightshazing
21:31.07ckknightshazzing*
21:31.25ckknighttrh: whatever, we're working together
21:31.57ckknightdoesn't mean I'm not going to totally rip him off
21:32.01trhlol :)
21:32.03knarf^:P
21:32.22Chompersattempt 8 of the opera event
21:32.28Chomperswonder what will happen this time
21:32.42ckknightalso, if you check out Atlas.lua, you'll find that 3/4 of it is prefixed with --Code by ckknight (unmodified)
21:32.43Ominouscncfanatics: how can you hide the action ids on FB2?
21:32.53trhbtw: cartographer_noteshare should check if the person it wants to send something to is online.. (via guildlist, friendslist, if person isn't on them maybe via /who) - its pretty annoying to get those <someone> isn't there messages
21:32.55nymbiackknight: haha
21:33.25trhckknight: lol
21:33.36ckknightit really just means now that we have access to all the maps he has
21:33.43trhckknight: wouldn't it be more common sense if he started to work on cartographer?
21:33.49ckknightin avery copy-paste fashion
21:33.57ckknighttrh: meh, he has his own community and ideals
21:34.42cncfanaticsOminous, yes
21:34.45cncfanaticsalready told you once :p
21:34.50Ominousit didnt work tho
21:34.57cncfanaticsoh it sure did
21:35.06JJSheetscncfanatics, he isn't using saved variables.
21:35.11JJSheetsso it doesn't save
21:35.13JJSheets:)
21:35.16Saroz- The addon is ~100k packed-up!
21:35.16cncfanaticsstill dsnt matter
21:35.17SarozOMG OMG OMG
21:35.22OminousFlexBar2.Buttons[i]:SetTextSub(1, "")?
21:35.36Ominouswhen in the creation process does it need to be called
21:35.49cncfanaticswhenever u want after loadsettings
21:35.51cncfanaticsbut gonna logout now
21:36.00cncfanaticsnn all
21:36.44trhSaroz: looks like the maps are generated on the fly, by just having the minimap part names
21:36.48JJSheetsOminous, I'm close to finishing stances... I'll check it out too.
21:36.48Chompershey saroz
21:36.55Ominous:D
21:37.00Chomperswhat was they guy calling the maiden of virtue?
21:37.11Chompersmaiden of doom was it?
21:37.15Sarozya
21:37.18Chompershaw
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21:39.50Industrial~seen kergoth
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21:40.25Deificknarf^
21:40.25DeificI just did a 'Test'
21:40.25knarf^mm?
21:40.25DeificI got the log
21:40.29DeificAnd where do I put this log
21:40.37Deificso it updates the site
21:40.55knarf^in the import part I guess? :P
21:41.01trhi think a nice feature for all (instance) map mods would be to set a fixed "entrance" angle for every instance, and rotate the instance map according to the players current direction so the rotated minimap position is in alliance with the (partly seeable) real minimap
21:41.12DeificI clicked on export..I got the log
21:41.13trhwould make it alot easier to find yourself on the complete minimap
21:41.17DeificBut when I go to my eqdkp site
21:41.20DeificI dont know where to add it
21:41.47ckknighttrh: I don't think that's possible
21:41.52DeificI have a - Parse Log
21:41.56Deificlink in my site
21:41.58DeificI click there, I paste hte log
21:42.00Deificbut nothing happens
21:42.12trhckknight: you can rotate textures? and set a fixed angle, and read the compass direction?
21:42.30ckknightif you think about what you're saying, it has absolutely no purpose :-)
21:42.36ckknightsince you want it to match the minimap
21:42.40ckknightand the minimap itself doesn't rotate
21:42.41ckknightever
21:42.46ckknightjust the cursor
21:42.53trhoh.. true.. damn ;)
21:43.03trhwhat was i thinking?
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21:43.43DeificSo knarf^?
21:44.06trhok.. i invalidate all made suggestions and propose the opposite
21:44.09DeificOr does anyone have any idea where to paste the log
21:44.14DeificIn your eqdkp site to update it
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21:44.57GnarfozI'm in your EQDKP, pasting you logs.
21:45.20CIA-1803ckknight * r30057 10Cartographer/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
21:45.21CIA-18Cartographer_InstanceMaps - moved data into Data.lua out of the code file
21:45.21CIA-18other assorted modules - updates goto menu on AceEvent_FullyInitialized
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21:49.41ZealotOnAStick~seen nymbia
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21:50.28ckknightokay, I need advice
21:50.33ckknightwhat does one talk about on a first date?
21:50.46ZealotOnASticknymbia: ping
21:50.58Elkanohmm... sex?
21:51.01JJSheetsckknight, PORN
21:51.02knarf^Deific don't you need to submit the log too?
21:51.09nymbiaZealotOnAStick: sup
21:51.29ZealotOnAStickdoes PT3 have any category for something like "has sockets?"  If not, can it?
21:51.43nymbiaZealotOnAStick: no and yes ;)
21:51.56ckknightI think I'm just gonna wing it, then
21:52.00JJSheetsrofl
21:52.12nymbiackknight: sounds good ;)
21:52.23JJSheetsyeah you'll probably do better with that... :)
21:52.36ZealotOnAStickckknight: be yourself without revealing too much, or appearing too interested in either yourself or your date.  Reserve some mystery for later.  Be confident, even if it's all an act.
21:52.36kergothtalk about her, thats always a good bet.  people love to talk about themselves
21:52.39ckknightI'm going out with someone who was previously in the "friend zone"
21:52.45kergothhehe
21:52.48kergothckknight: good luck with it
21:52.49ckknightso I already know her and everything
21:52.59ckknightand she knows me
21:53.05ckknightand apparently I'm the nicest guy on the planet
21:53.13JJSheetsoh hell, then talk about PORN... sheesh... thought this was like a blind date or something... :)
21:53.17kergothapparently that planet isnt this one
21:53.19kergoth;)
21:53.21JJSheetsthat'll scare her off :)
21:53.24Deific5:51pm (knarf^) Deific don't you need to submit the log too?
21:53.24DeificYes
21:53.30DeificWhen I click parse log
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21:53.31Deificit says
21:53.34Deific1 line searched
21:53.35Deificzero membesr found
21:53.39Deificand there is nothing to submit
21:53.43ZealotOnAStickShe don't  know you very well, do she? (to paraphrase bugs, in good humor)
21:53.51Nickenyfikenckknight: talk about ace libs :-)
21:54.04nymbiarofl kergoth
21:54.09knarf^Deific guess you log is in a wrong form then :S
21:54.11ckknightNickenyfiken: she's training to be a vet, she knows nothing of computers
21:54.35DeificYeah I guess
21:54.38DeificIm gonna use a dKP log parser
21:54.42ckknightgood thing is that she steal eats animals, though
21:54.57JJSheetsgrats on that ckknight  :)
21:55.11ckknightyea, no need to change my diet
21:55.24ckknightI was vegetarian for a year and a half in high school
21:55.24ckknightfor health reasons
21:55.25ZealotOnASticknymbia: ok.  I can see it being useful to be able to pull a listing of all itemids with sockets, since I don't know any other easy way to get such without something evil like tooltip parsing.
21:55.41nymbiaZealotOnAStick: yeah
21:55.43JJSheetsvegans are worse though... :)
21:56.11nymbiaZealotOnAStick: should be fairly easy to add
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21:56.35ckknightquite true
21:57.12JJSheetsI like to tell die-hard hardcore vegans about all the animal products in everyday items that  they are forced to use and watch them puke
21:57.13pastamancerJJSheets: I'll see your vegans and raise you "macrobiotic"
21:57.26kergothi'll never understand vegans
21:57.42kergothnot eating meat is just strange, like a denial of what you are
21:57.44JJSheetsmacrobiotic... are those the people who think they can survive eating nothing?
21:57.45kergothheh
21:58.25Tainmmmm meat.
21:58.30Chompersmmm meat.
21:58.31pastamancerwell, they're not the dirt eaters, but it's quite possibly the most boring diet ever
21:58.37JJSheetslol
21:58.40Chompershaw
21:58.42trhkergoth: i respect vegans as long as they aren't aggressive against people who eat normal :)
21:59.00trhkergoth: aggressive = proposing their way of eating is better than ours and stuff
21:59.41trhthe only downside of vegans is that they eat my foods food...
21:59.43kergothi mean, i'm not going to try to convince them to be otherwise, i'll just never understand it.  denying your nature is never a good way to live.  for the same reason i'll never understand monks who are celibate
21:59.57ckknightugh, okay, time to go on a date
22:00.03Chompers"hey monk, get with the sexing"
22:00.07kergothhehe
22:00.08JJSheetsgood luck and have fun ckknight
22:00.09TainWhat about celibate, vegan monks?
22:00.13trhckknight: gl
22:00.39kergothTain: celibate vegan monks would probably be better off just killing themselves and being done with it
22:00.40kergoth:P
22:00.53kergothhmm, i need http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/3190/
22:00.57Industrialbotmail for ckknight gee thanks
22:01.02Industrial~botmail for ckknight gee thanks
22:01.04JJSheetsI like to terrify vegetarians by telling them that plants have feelings to and can't even run away or defend themselves.  Every time you eat a carrot, it screams in it's widdle plant heart.  :)
22:01.24kergothhehe
22:01.27Industrialtee hee
22:01.28trhJJSheets: the funny thing though is, that there are studies saying that :)
22:01.43JJSheetslol yup  I love those studies :)
22:01.44kergoththe screams make it delicious!
22:01.47JJSheetsrofl
22:02.01JJSheetsmisery, the best garnish of all
22:02.18Industrialdont you love the smell of dying grass leaves when you mow the lawn?
22:02.20NightHawkTheSane"I'm not a vegetarian beacuse I love animals. I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants."
22:03.03Industrialkergoth: pm :P
22:03.05trheven though it feed the prejudices about germans.. i got schnitzels in my fridge and they are delicious! :)
22:03.07OverloadUT|WorkJJSheets: Of course, that only works on vegetarians that do it for ethical reasons
22:03.15JJSheetstrue...
22:03.28JJSheetsbut the other kind never bother me about my eating habits... :)
22:03.29OverloadUT|Workethical isn't the right word... whatever they want to call it ;)
22:03.32OverloadUT|WorkHaha
22:04.03trhNightHawkTheSane: lol
22:04.03Elkanotrh, what kind of schnitzels? pig or cow?
22:04.25trhElkano: young cows.. kalbsschnitzel :)
22:04.38Elkano:)
22:05.01trhpretty expensive.. but YUMMY
22:05.53Elkanoit's always fun to find oneself talking on english to a person with whom one might have spoke in native tongue
22:06.31OverloadUT|Work"I'm a vegan level 5. I don't eat anything that casts a shadow."
22:06.38trhElkano: lol.. but i consider it a no-no to talk german in a english-channels.. it's kinda rude
22:06.39JJSheetslol
22:06.55Elkanowell, same for me ^^
22:07.23trheven though my english isn't the best
22:07.23trhi understand it alot better than talking/writing
22:07.25JJSheetstrh we all know the real reason... you're afraid our English language may mug German for yet another "borrowed" word.
22:07.29Elkanobut knowing your nation throws some other light on what you had written about the schnitzels ^^
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22:08.34trhJJSheets: hehe.. i heard a german word in the simpsons just today.. what was it...
22:08.43OverloadUT|WorkNothing wrong with borrowed words ;)
22:08.48OverloadUT|WorkAlthough the French seem to think they're evil :P
22:09.06trhya.. the french are kinda language-nazis ;)
22:09.21trh(no offense)
22:09.43trhah... the word was "frohlocken"
22:09.51trhjust remembered
22:10.05JJSheetswhat does it mean?
22:10.21trhbeing happy and showing it
22:10.37trhthey said "frohlocking" ;)
22:10.38JJSheetsso frollicking in English
22:10.40Gnarfoz~x de en frohlocken
22:10.48Gnarfozlol purl
22:11.02Gnarfozyou fail!
22:11.02trhJJSheets: it's written that in english? lol
22:11.03Gnarfoz;D
22:11.05JJSheetsyes :)
22:11.14trhJJSheets: lol :)
22:11.15NeoTronglad-lure?
22:11.17pastamancer~x en de frolick
22:11.18BrunersRomulo & Julianne event sucks tbh
22:11.19Gnarfozhttp://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&sectHdr=on&spellToler=on&search=frohlocken&relink=on
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22:11.24Gnarfozsays: to rejoice
22:11.48Gnarfozto frolic means to joke around
22:12.06Gnarfoz~x en de frolic
22:12.15Gnarfozseems right
22:12.16Gnarfoz:>
22:12.28trhin a lecture i heard that the most used german word in the usa is 'diesel' followed by 'gesundheit'
22:12.39OverloadUT|Work~seen purl
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22:13.14OverloadUT|Worktrh: Sounds about right
22:13.31OverloadUT|WorkI made her explode
22:13.37JJSheetshttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/frolic
22:18.26trhit's always funny in the guildchat on a german server.. one half of the guild uses the english client, the other one the german client... so someone with a german client asks for something with the german name and the english client people respond with "english name please", so they look it up on allakhazam/buffed and give the english name
22:18.42JJSheetslol
22:18.48CIA-1803nymbia * r30058 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua:
22:18.48CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
22:18.48CIA-18- Some preliminary work on Gear.Socketed
22:19.25Chompersyay
22:19.31trhJJSheets: and then they start flaming each other about which client is better ;)
22:19.35Chompersa whole night of wiping on romulo
22:19.38Chompersgod i hate him
22:19.41JJSheetsrofl that's amusing.
22:20.30Barbanusits like when on a NA server, I say "colour"
22:20.37Barbanusand all hell breaks loose :P
22:20.39JJSheetslol
22:20.46trhJJSheets: they even translated the names for the cities like thunderbluff, ironforge or hammerfall
22:20.47JJSheetsthat's just ignorant americans.
22:20.52Barbanusor when I say "eh?" on vent
22:20.53trhlol
22:20.56Barbanusor "about"
22:21.47trhBarbanus: i usually mix up american english and uk english.. because i got uk-english taught but usually read american english
22:22.12Barbanustrh, where are you from?
22:22.17trhBarbanus: germany
22:22.24trhBarbanus: you get oxford english taught at school
22:22.25ZealotOnASticknymbia: how's Doodle coming along?
22:22.54nymbiaZealotOnAStick: couple things i still wanna add but it's pretty well usable at the moment
22:22.55Barbanustrh, ahh yea .. I'm from Canada, so we get taught UK spelling, and US grammer
22:23.09trhBarbanus: that's weird
22:24.00trhBarbanus: btw: i wonder if there are french servers in the us-wow realms for french canadians?
22:24.10Adysthere are not
22:24.14Barbanusno, there are not
22:24.15JJSheetsokay maybe one of you will know... how do I hide the button number text on a button inheriting from SecureActionButtonTemplate?
22:24.25Barbanusthere are french guilds however.
22:24.30trhBarbanus: and spanish for mexicans and such?
22:24.37trhBarbanus: or only english?
22:24.37CIA-1803totalpackage * r30059 10StellarUF/ (5 files):
22:24.37CIA-18StellarUF:
22:24.38CIA-18- target casting added
22:24.38CIA-18- minor code cleanups and frame tweaks
22:24.41Adysonly english servers
22:25.49Barbanuswhat Adys said, only english servers, but there are guilds that are french, spanish around
22:25.50trhon eu-realms you can choose between: english, german, french, spanish
22:25.52Barbanusnot many though
22:26.29trhbut that server choice is independent to client language (luckily)
22:27.32Adysthank god indeed
22:28.00Adystho for a while life was hard if you didn't have the client in the server's language
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22:28.40trhif you've ever seen everquest2 with the forced german client on german server and a translation as bad as having every word just smashed into babelfish.altavista.com you'd know why
22:29.14trhAdys: uhm.. the only hard thing was getting tbc in english
22:29.21AdysNah
22:29.26Adysbefore 1.11 or so
22:29.35Adysyou didn't get into the general channels etc
22:29.45Adyshell to find a group for something
22:29.52trhAdys: ah true... but i usually don't read them anyway, they are so full of crap :)
22:30.21Adysthats like saying I don't make friends because people generally suck on my server ;)
22:30.22trhAdys: and there were workarounds to get into the normal channels if you searched a group or wanted to trade
22:30.34trhAdys: nah.. i'm in a big guild
22:30.40Adys:P
22:30.45trhAdys: so groups are usually formed in the guild and not with "outsiders"
22:30.52trhbecause pugs generally suck :)
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22:31.06trhs/generally/usually/
22:32.00OminousJJ; do you need to set the scale if you set it to 1?
22:32.10JJSheetsshouldn't need to
22:32.47Ominouskk
22:34.01Brunersdepends if its a pug or a random pug
22:34.06trhhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5195.0 <- best topic title ever ;)
22:34.52OminousJJ: is http://ace.pastey.net/8208 right for the action ID hiding part?, if not how do i fix it
22:36.22JJSheetsthat ought to work... but I had to delete my save variables before it did, and then I found a slight bug... so let me get it fixed and make sure it doesn't break anything else, then I think I'm about ready for a commit.  :)
22:37.56Barbanusdoes anyone have an issue with OneView that you cant see the full bank/inventory of other characters?
22:38.07BarbanusIts totally possible my SV is fubared
22:38.14Barbanusjust wondering if anyone has that issue
22:38.59[dRaCo]I had that a while ago
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22:39.47Adyswhy the hell did blizzard make it so ratings are simple at lvl 60 and a hellhole at 70
22:39.49[dRaCo]but that was due to the change in the way ace2 handles profiles
22:40.31evlAdys: ratingbuster ftw!
22:40.45AdysMeh :p
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22:41.02kergothman, i love the ratingsbuster agi->crit and int->spellcrit info
22:41.18nevcairielint->spellcrit is kinda useless imho
22:41.28Adysi cant be arsed to actually log on but I like screwing around with stats on paper :P
22:41.29kergothhow so?
22:41.46nevcairieldunno, who weares int items for the spellcrit?
22:42.08Gngskme!
22:42.09NightHawkTheSaneno one, but it -does- give you spellcrit, and its handy to know how much
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22:42.38nevcairielah well, i am not damage dealer .. so maybe i think different :)
22:42.42trhkergoth: do you know if it also converts based on talents? like 45% of int are ap?
22:42.46GngskI got full wildheart on my rogue for the +spellcrit from int
22:43.04Gngskinstant poison crits ftw!
22:43.09nevcairiellol
22:43.10ZealotOnAStickGngsk: huh?
22:43.49nevcairielgnome in wildhearts looks funny
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22:46.46Barbanusnevcairiel, paladins wear int items for spellcrit
22:46.57Barbanuseach 1% crit = 1% free heals
22:47.12Barbanusso stacking int is awesome for healing.
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22:49.01sbuprince down :o
22:49.09sbufinally...
22:49.16Brunersgrats :)
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22:51.09Grolli wish i was in a guild that actually did endgame :S
22:52.13JJSheetswish in one hand shit in the other, see which ones gets full first.  :p
22:54.35Barbanussbu, good luck on nightbane
22:57.15Antiarc|WorkMan, the new SWG talent trees are HILARIOUS.
22:57.26Antiarc|WorkSeriously. I am giggling like a madman over here.
22:58.33Antiarc|WorkSo glad I don't play anymore.
23:00.00Antiarc|WorkI was a bioengineeer way back when it launched
23:00.04Antiarc|WorkWay, way, way back.
23:00.11Antiarc|WorkSmuggler/bioengineer
23:00.13trhi think swg killed the most of their playerbase when they basically relaunched the whole game
23:00.27Antiarc|WorkI eventually realized that I was paying money to have AutoIt grind out thousands of nutrient vats for me.
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23:00.59Antiarc|WorkAt this point it's just kinda bordering on sad
23:01.15Antiarc|Work"Hey look guys, we can be WoW too! In space! With lightsabers! Pleeeeeease play!"
23:01.31Antiarc|WorkOn that note, WTB Ethereal Jedi as playable characters in the next WoW expansion.
23:01.59[dRaCo]Naga Demon Hunters!
23:02.06evlWTKeep Jedi's in the little box where the VHS is
23:02.11evlthat's where they work best
23:02.12Antiarc|WorkHeheh
23:02.14Antiarc|WorkIndeed.
23:02.24Antiarc|WorkI really just want to play an Ethereal
23:02.32Antiarc|WorkBecause they're sorta distilled awesome or something
23:02.46kergothi read ethereal and think of the network packet sniffer
23:03.01Antiarc|Workethereal doesn't look as cool as ethereals with you kill -9 it
23:03.16Antiarc|WorkBut then, if it did, I'd spend my day starting and killing ethereal
23:03.19Antiarc|WorkSo that's probably a good thing
23:04.15kergothhehe
23:04.40BankZAnyone here use AcrDruidCar?
23:06.58Barbanusspeaking of druids, is there any addon that allows you to see your mana when in bear/cat form for agUF (something that ties in nicely)
23:07.08CIA-1803jjsheets * r30060 10FlexBar2/ (10 files): FlexBar2: - Various Bugfixes, added Stance swapping code. See the wowace forum post for clarifications.
23:08.44JJSheetsOminous.  Test.  but first... check out: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5100.msg87902#new
23:09.02Ominousohh
23:09.09Ominousnice, will be about 10 mins first
23:09.13JJSheetsk.
23:09.32JJSheetsI'll be offline until quite a bit later, so save your previous script
23:09.54JJSheetsthat way you don't lose all sanity if you need to revert for any reason.
23:10.08Ominousor not, can test now
23:10.19JJSheetslol
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23:13.09BankZFor oRA2 do you have to be raid leader to do things like durabilty checks?
23:13.39toddyou have to be leader or promoted
23:14.04BankZblah
23:14.05BankZok
23:15.09toddmy question is.. if you modified the code that checks whether or not you are promoted to always let you perform the check, would the other clients respond?
23:15.18toddor do they check your status too
23:18.14OminousJJ, you still here?
23:18.27JJSheetsfor the moment... I'm fixing a bug
23:18.41JJSheetswhat's up?
23:19.02Ominousthe textures arnt upading properly and the bars are callopsing on them selfs again
23:19.28JJSheetsokay... try clearing your SavedVariables file after this next commit.
23:20.10CIA-1803jjsheets * r30061 10FlexBar2/ButtonEventHandler.lua: FlexBar2: - Converted some old sanity checks to the new check.
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23:23.55Ominousthe bars arnt working full stop :S, they show but no lick
23:24.09Barbanusdamn bars
23:24.13Barbanusfix that licking!
23:24.27Barbanusbars must lick, its a requirement :P
23:24.28Ominousoh hang on
23:25.34Ominousno dosnet work
23:25.56JJSheetsso you click the button it does nothing?  does it drag at least?
23:25.57OverloadUT|Worktodd: It's checked client side as well.
23:26.14OverloadUT|WorkAt least, that's the way it was in CTRA a year ago, because I tried it. :P Maybe it's different now
23:26.29OverloadUT|WorkI actually modified my version of CTRA to always report that I had 1,000,000 soulshards XD
23:26.51OminousJJ, click once -nothing, click and drag - texture appears on mouse but stays in button, rt click - buttons seperate
23:27.22JJSheetsokay.... what class are you playing... and... have you deleted savedvars and updated to version 30061?
23:27.49Ominousupdated rogue and yes
23:27.55CIA-1803nymbia * r30062 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
23:27.55CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
23:27.55CIA-18- Add Gear.Socketed (doesnt have its own module yet)
23:28.03Ominousill try deleting again
23:28.28Ominousas i only did a DB Table - nil ReloadUI
23:28.44JJSheetscan you enter and exit stealth from your spellbook after that if it doesn't work?
23:28.58Ominousdont think i cld
23:29.22JJSheetstry
23:29.52trhsweet.. i just got http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=23543&locale=enUS;source=live for my hunter :)
23:30.14Barbanusgrats
23:31.20Brunerskinda good, but i prefer my lunar crescent :)
23:31.51Ominousyes i cld
23:31.52Ominous2007/03/12 23:31:24-215-x10]: FlexBar2-30060\ButtonEventHandler.lua:174: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'cX' (a nil value)
23:31.52OminousFlexBar2-30060\ButtonRegisteringHandler.lua:54: in function <...terface\AddOns\FlexBar2\ButtonRegisteringHandler.lua:50>
23:31.58Ominousand same on line 159
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23:33.41trhBruners: but if you aren't a axesmith =)
23:33.43JJSheetsAnd you've fully deleted your entire Saved Variables file for FlexBar2.lua...
23:34.08Ominousrelised one problem hang on
23:35.45sbuBarbanus: nightbane not yet :p
23:36.01sbushattered halls heroic is evil i gues...
23:36.18sbuillhoof and netherspite next...
23:36.20[dRaCo]u bet
23:36.21Ominoustexture and button not working problem gone
23:36.32JJSheetshow'd you fix?
23:36.41CIA-1803jjsheets * r30063 10FlexBar2/ButtonMapping.lua: FlexBar2: - Added StateDriver Attributes settings for non-rogues/warriors/druids.
23:37.14sbushattered halls heroic = 3 mage, 1 tank, 1 healer?
23:37.24Ominousi forgot to add the line FlexBar2.Buttons[i]:SetStanceMap("","","normal","action", i) for the non paging bars
23:37.37JJSheetsthat would do it.
23:37.49JJSheetsstealth swapping okay for you?
23:39.07Ominousit dosent like rt clicks still http://ace.pastey.net/8209
23:39.09Ominousnope
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23:40.43JJSheetsOminous pastey me your setup script.
23:41.49Ominoushttp://ace.pastey.net/8210
23:43.23CIA-1803nymbia * r30064 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
23:43.23CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
23:43.23CIA-18- Add Gear module. Currently only contains Gear.Socketed.
23:44.35nymbiaZealotOnAStick: ^
23:44.44JJSheetsOminous add this line just after line 24 of that pastey:  FlexBar2.Group.Handlers.SetStanceHeaderByClass("BottomBar1")
23:45.02JJSheetsthat should do it... if not revert and send me a forum PM,  I gotta go.
23:47.27ZealotOnAStickI saw, coolness.
23:49.41ag`how easy is fb2 to set up these days?
23:50.29CIA-1803adirelle * r30065 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua:
23:50.29CIA-18CastYeller:
23:50.29CIA-18- added more debug.
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23:53.31snurre-wtb baggins to store bank info across chars
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23:57.12Ominousag: depends look at http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5100.msg87902#new
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23:58.05ag`I wouldn't need a gui
23:58.23ag`ah you script it atm

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