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00:00.05nevcairielAceLocale itself claims to do caching of the strings
00:00.05nevcairielso not sure
00:00.25NeoTrontrh: I mean I don't want to see what spell dmg someone has with 47 buffs
00:00.38nevcairielwith yours, you would make sure that it really is only looked up once.
00:00.43NeoTronI want the equipment stats not buffed with flask of pwnage, elixier or shdow pwnage etc
00:00.45nevcairieli would go with the metatable
00:00.59NeoTronhard to compare when it includes tempoarry buffs
00:01.04trhNeoTron: true, but how is blizzard supposed to differentiate between self-buffs like trueshot aura and the same buff from someone else
00:01.18trhNeoTron: sure they could, but it's alot work
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00:01.25NeoTronit shouldn't include any buffs period
00:01.33NeoTronbesides, it doesn't even show the right buff values
00:01.34Ominous_dammit dced
00:01.46NeoTronit shows the untalented values just like tooltips on buffs do
00:01.47Ominous_if my question was answerd can it be copied
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00:02.29nevcairielOminous_: i am not sure if it would be more efficient, but i dont see #1 being less efficient in any way. i would go with that.
00:02.55Ominous_k
00:03.25nevcairielbut you should declare the local before the if construct
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00:06.00nevcairielanyway, off with me, nite
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00:12.10Arrowmasterarmory buff tooltips have more problems than just being untalented versions, they also dont scale by level for the buffs that do, like bloodpact shows as 66 sta instead of 70 sta
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00:23.52Grollhmm where does ag unitframes store it's layouts and such? in the saved variables right? but does it store where the window is at in the saved variables aswell? or some other spot?
00:24.23CIA-1803sayclub * r29847 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
00:24.23CIA-18Babble-2.2:
00:24.23CIA-18-Babble-Spell-2.2 : Update locale koKR
00:25.23CIA-1803saroz * r29848 10BigWigs/Azeroth/Emeriss.lua: BigWigs: Emeriss: use SetIcon()
00:25.34CIA-1803nymbia * r29849 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:
00:25.34CIA-18Doodle:
00:25.34CIA-18- Remove a debug print.
00:25.39Saroz10 man emeriss :p
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00:36.18Ominousis doodle usable atm?
00:37.15nymbiaOminous: carefully ;) there may be bugs in the comm permissions system, other than that it's solid
00:39.46Grollis it possible to show the entire grid of grid without being in a raid?
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00:40.00shieldbnymbia, what's doodle? The description on wowace is "doodling done right" which doesn't really say a whole lot ;)
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00:40.55knarf^is there any way to define variables in a macro so it does not take that many spaces? :>
00:41.04nymbiashieldb: i didnt make a decent description because a screenshot does a much better job at that.  now if only i had a screenshot around here somewhere..
00:41.34nymbiaoh yea
00:41.36nymbia~doodle
00:41.39purli guess doodle is A better version of Whiteboard, but without the suck, much more efficient.  Think Pictionary for WoW, except without annoying celebrities or drunk neighbors.
00:42.15nymbiahaha :)
00:42.31shieldbthat sounds pretty slick, though
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00:46.42NightHawkTheSanebut.. i like the drunk neighbors
00:47.13Ziconnighthawkthesane: Really? Do you want mine?
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01:02.24CIA-1803fenlis * r29850 10MrPlow/ (Localization_koKR.lua MrPlow.toc): MrPlow - Added localization koKR
01:04.43Grollpastamancer u around?
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01:11.12CIA-1803fenlis * r29851 10VanasKoS/modules/Notifier.lua: VanasKoS: - Updated localization koKR.
01:12.58CIA-1803fenlis * r29852 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-koKR.lua: Bartender3: Updated localization koKR
01:16.01CIA-1803fenlis * r29853 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Malchezaar.lua Nightbane.lua): BigWigs: Updated localization koKR.
01:18.16IndustrialDoes someone have a hunter macro that makes your pet attack/come back in one button?
01:19.24NightHawkTheSaneerm... i dont think that's possible, because it'd rquire some conditional based on the current state of you pet, which, i dont beleive you can do
01:19.37NightHawkTheSanebut, i might be wrong
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01:21.33CIA-1803fenlis * r29854 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
01:21.33CIA-18Babble-2.2:
01:21.33CIA-18-Updated localization koKR
01:23.29GrollIndustrial http://beta.worldofraids.com/burning_crusade/macros/hunter/
01:24.02knarf^I made a ma cro for a friend to play Meyer :>
01:25.11Industrialah thanks Groll
01:25.14NightHawkTheSanehuh, i guess it is possible, that's clever.
01:26.26knarf^Its so amazing: /script local x = math.random(6);local y = math.random(6);local s = "";if x > y then s = x..""..y; else s = y..""..x;end if s == "21" then s = s.."Meyer";elseif s == "31" then s = s.."Little Meyer"; else DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(s);end
01:27.25CIA-1803ominous * r29855 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (8 files in 3 dirs): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: Added some metatables and general tidyup
01:30.43NightHawkTheSaneo_0
01:32.46CIA-1803archarodim * r29856 10Decursive/ (Readme.txt lisez-moi.txt):
01:32.46CIA-18Decursive:
01:32.46CIA-18- A problematic word have been changed in Readme.txt and lisez-moi.txt ;-)
01:33.15ArcharodimWow that's incredible this automatic SVN note thing...
01:34.21Archarodimdamn I just realised I made a spelling mistake in the note... too late :-/
01:34.28JJSheetslol
01:34.58JJSheetsI've made a number of mistakes in my notes too... oh well.  :)
01:36.33pastamancerGroll: nope
01:45.27IndustrialGroll: wow that grind macro is sweet :D
01:47.40vhaarrWhat grind macro o_O
01:48.02Industrialhttp://beta.worldofraids.com/burning_crusade/macros/hunter/
01:48.21Industrialadvanced hunter macros, solo farming
01:52.15Industrial1-button-hunter
01:52.17Industrialo_O
01:54.55CIA-1803funkydude * r29857 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Babble-2.2: UTF-8, again...
01:55.48nymbiaFunkeh`: it's just so fun to break all the encoding!
01:56.07Funkeh`urg nymbia
01:56.09Funkeh`urg
01:56.38Funkeh`i will catch them sometime and revert their ass
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02:03.50CIA-1803ag * r29858 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Options.lua ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Bug fix, tweak, cleanup
02:04.06vhaarrFunkeh`: You go, girl!
02:04.52Funkeh`O_o
02:05.06Funkeh`i think vhaarr wants a bitchslap
02:05.11Industrialrevert their ass? that _has_ to look messy
02:05.19Funkeh`you nkow it
02:05.24Funkeh`know* even
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02:15.50CIA-1803nymbia * r29859 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:
02:15.50CIA-18Doodle:
02:15.50CIA-18- Fix an error with the line tool when clicking multiple mouse buttons.
02:23.04CIA-1803nymbia * r29860 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:
02:23.04CIA-18Doodle:
02:23.04CIA-18- Maybe fix an oddness with stuff moving a pixel when saved/loaded.
02:31.31PProvost_Anyone seeing strangeness w/ the pet health in agUF? I'm getting values like 2006%.
02:31.45Barbanusthats 2006 health
02:31.54BarbanusI noticed that last night
02:31.59Barbanusit thinks everything is %
02:32.28Barbanuswe had a pet last night with 8500% HP :P
02:33.30NightHawkTheSaneIt's a bug in wow., I believe
02:34.27CIA-1803eraslin * r29861 10DKPmon/DKPmon.toc: DKPmon: Change version number.
02:35.21CIA-1803eraslin * r29862 10Bidder/Bidder.toc: Bidder: Update version number.
02:38.28CIA-1803nymbia * r29863 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:
02:38.28CIA-18Doodle:
02:38.28CIA-18- Add minor version to self.version so that VersionChecker or SpyGnome can be used to find revision num of a given client.
02:39.15Barbanusspygnome doesnt like my UI
02:39.22BarbanusI think its auctioneer
02:39.27Barbanusbut I'm not sure :P
02:40.18Industrialspygnome?
02:42.48Industrialnn
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02:46.47CIA-1803eraslin * r29864 10DKPmon_eqDKP/DKPmon_eqDKP.toc: DKPmon_eqDKP: Update version
02:48.19CIA-1803eraslin * r29865 10Bidder_ZSumAuction/Bidder_ZSumAuction.toc: Bidder_ZSumAuction: Update version numbers.
02:51.46vhaarrnymbia: As long as you set self.revision to the minor number, it should be considered by spygnome.
02:52.07nymbiavhaarr: yeah i didnt have a rev keyword
02:52.30vhaarrnymbia: point is, it doesn't have to be part of self.version
02:52.43nymbiavhaarr: fair enough, i'll switch that
02:52.53vhaarrdon't have to switch it, but I'm just letting you know :)
02:54.09nymbiavhaarr: thanks :)
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03:07.19CIA-1803nymbia * r29866 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:
03:07.19CIA-18Doodle:
03:07.19CIA-18- Switch the revision into self.revision
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04:14.37CIA-1803next96 * r29867 10Violation/modules/groupTotalDamage.lua:
04:14.37CIA-18Violation :
04:14.37CIA-18- groupTotalDamage
04:14.37CIA-18- Add locale koKR
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04:40.47CIA-1803next96 * r29868 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/addon.lua:
04:40.47CIA-18Cartographer_ExtractGas :
04:40.47CIA-18- Update locale koKR
04:40.47CIA-18- Thank you kagaro koKR add :)
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05:28.22vid`hmm
05:28.43vid`shift + pageup/pagedown to change hotbar page in BT3 broken atm?
05:28.49vid`with latest svn ver
05:29.09vid`er
05:29.14vid`shift + mwheelup/down :P
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05:56.28xyua;lsdkjfsd;lakjfksda j
05:56.35xyuman water elemental is the stupidest fucking AI i've ever seen
05:56.42xyutell it to attack player A, it attacks player B
05:56.50xyuit breaks my sheep randomly
05:57.00xyupet bar shows up 60% of the time :(
05:57.08xyurawr. losing my ratings because of this stupid pet.
05:57.22NightHawkTheSanexyu: yeah, searing totems are about as intelligent
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06:02.26JJSheetsyou want intelligent pets roll a hunter or warlock.  :p
06:02.37JJSheetsOr bitch loud enough to Blizzard.  ;)
06:07.12chutwigwater elemental yay
06:07.24chutwigdoes it actually do enough to be worth the talent point
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06:10.58Arrowmasteris it on passive or not?
06:11.36chutwigpet AI in general is pretty stupid
06:11.45chutwigi can usually control the felguard well enough to have him not be a total retard
06:12.13chutwigbut every once in a while he just insists on doing something durrrrrr
06:16.44NightHawkTheSanei swear i end up in groups with the most retarded warriors ever.
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06:30.42TemNightHawkTheSane, I have a theory about that...
06:30.48Funkeh`gn
06:31.01NightHawkTheSaneTem: is it: "People are fucking idiots."? because that's my working htoery
06:31.04NightHawkTheSanetheory.
06:31.25Temmy working theory was that warriors (in general) attract 2 kinds of people
06:31.32Temfucking idiots
06:31.34Temand retards
06:31.51ZiconI think you may be on to something.
06:32.00TemThink about it.
06:32.10TemEvery warrior I know fits into one of those 2 categories
06:32.18Tem(with a few key exceptions for smart people)
06:32.36Temoh wait
06:32.41TemI said the wrong two groups
06:32.50Tem1) idiots
06:32.52Tem2) assholes
06:33.01hyperChipmunkno that's rogues
06:33.04hyperChipmunkyou had it right
06:33.11TemI don't know a single rogue that's an asshole
06:33.14Temnot a single one
06:33.34ZiconAll the -good- warriors I know are all doormats. Funny, that.
06:34.25TemI know 2 good warriors
06:34.32Temone of them is an asshole
06:34.47Temthe other sounds like a pothead
06:34.59Tem(ie, not very smart)
06:36.39NightHawkTheSaneI like to consider myself a good warrior. But then again, I'm an asshole.
07:06.16FISKER_Q~seen elkano
07:06.46purlelkano <n=elkano@srbk-590fbfcc.pool.einsundeins.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 13m 30s ago, saying: 'did I miss something?'.
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07:28.07xyuasd;lfjksdajf
07:28.21xyuoops wrong chan
07:28.47xyuclosetgnome is disabled and it keeps unequiping my weapons ><
07:28.49NightHawkTheSaneis there a  "right" channel for that? :P
07:29.03xyuhaha yeah.  server down spam :D
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07:56.25Guillotinexyu: if its disabled, it can't be unequipping your weapons
07:56.50xyuyeah strange huh
07:57.15Guillotinepossibly another addon?
07:57.22xyuits disabled through the addon, not in the addons login
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07:59.38Guillotineoh
07:59.40Guillotinethen its possible
08:00.37Crom96what is channel? AceCommZone89ba43
08:01.12Crom96chat panel create "AceCommZone89ba43"
08:02.38Crom96what is this channel role?
08:04.37Crom96and why use AceComm channel instead of SendAddonMessage channel?
08:04.43Crom96help me please
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08:26.25nymbiasylvanaar: ping
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08:29.43AntiarcOk.
08:29.52AntiarcWhose brilliant idea was it to make some mobs immune to feint?
08:29.53AntiarcSeriously.
08:29.54AntiarcWTF.
08:29.59AntiarcBecause rogues don't get boned enough already.
08:30.04nymbiamine.
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08:30.16nymbia<3
08:30.24AntiarcFrom hell's heart I stab at thee.
08:31.49HerioI was looking at wowhead and it seems that disenchant mats seem fairly predictable based on item level >.>
08:32.36AntiarcYes
08:37.00kebinusanAntiarc: heh that is kinda weird
08:37.06TemHerio, yes, they are.  That's the basis for Fizzwidget's Disenchant Predictor
08:37.14Herioanyone notice the same thing?
08:37.14HerioI see
08:37.15Tems/tor/ter/
08:37.24Herioweird
08:37.41Heriodoes he predict between dusts and essences?
08:37.48kebinusanyeah, you can generally guess, green weapons, greater planar, green armor dust
08:37.54kebinusansame is true for lower level
08:38.03kebinusangenerally get essences from weapons and dust from armor
08:38.19HerioI notice that is true now ^_^
08:39.18HerioI'm going to be leveling up enchanting soon, so this information is going to be very helpful =P
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08:40.42kebinusanso how long before someone writes a mod to download all pvp teams in your battlegroup so you can get talent breakdowns on teams you go up against in the arena
08:40.49kebinusanheh
08:41.22HerioI usually end up with the same team 7 times in a row
08:41.38Herioand we roll them until they stop coming ^_-
08:41.42kebinusanyeah, typically ends with me bitching about rogues in guild chat
08:42.49NightHawkTheSaneit's not to hard to simple scrape the site for xml and parse it. *shrug*
08:42.56NightHawkTheSane"simply" that is
08:43.46Heriothe hard part is breaking down builds to something that is usefully crammed into a tooltip
08:44.01kebinusanyeah, Ive got no clue about that yet, was just poking around the code from Antiarc's site to see if I could figure out how to add talent summary to guild summary
08:44.24kebinusanon the char sheet page it gives a x/x/x bit of text
08:44.35AntiarcIt's not hard to do.
08:44.39AntiarcI just haven't done it yet.
08:44.43AntiarcI think I will. One sec. >_>
08:44.54kebinusanyeah I just have no clue how
08:45.02kebinusanheeheh that'd be cool
08:45.17Heriowhat site is this now? =P
08:45.41kebinusanhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/
08:45.45kebinusanits pretty cool
08:46.19CIA-1803nymbia * r29869 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
08:46.19CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
08:46.19CIA-18- Fix a multiset in InstanceLoot.
08:47.01Herioneat...
08:51.10CIA-1803nymbia * r29870 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
08:51.10CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
08:51.10CIA-18- Fix Tradeskill.Recipe.Quest.
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08:55.21Herionice way to find who's keyed for heroics!
08:55.51ZOASHmm. How, other than obvious heroic loot equipped?
08:56.02Heriohttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/reputations_out/gorgonnash-blood-faith-70.html
08:56.19ZOASoh, duh
08:56.23Heriohttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ antiarc's site
08:56.54NightHawkTheSaneits also a nice way to be depressed at how much your guild is slacking :P
08:57.06Herioyeah
08:57.07AntiarcSpecs are in.
08:57.17Heriowtb second kzhan raid =(
08:57.18AntiarcJust regen a guild stats page and there you have it.
08:57.21kebinusanoh sexy
08:57.40NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: you're a machine.
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08:58.24AntiarcEh. I just do this for a living. :)
08:58.33AntiarcWell, this technology.
08:58.36NightHawkTheSane*nod*
08:58.37AntiarcNot the WoW stuff. I wish.
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08:58.40NightHawkTheSanehehe
08:59.29sedatedChipmunkprobably would make it a lot less fun if it were
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09:03.32Heriolol
09:03.46HerioI just noticed that another lock in my guild has the same build as me =P
09:04.17sedatedChipmunkthat hoser!
09:04.22Herioclearly
09:06.42evl_locks nvm lol CloS
09:07.30Herioeh?
09:08.10sedatedChipmunkthe sad thing is, though... Herio's a priest!
09:08.35NightHawkTheSanethe sadder thing is, locks are so op they have a holy tree! wait.. >.>
09:08.58sedatedChipmunkhee
09:09.05Herioo
09:09.15HerioI'm a lock =P
09:09.20Herioa pretty bad one
09:09.20FISKER_Qah lame
09:09.25FISKER_Qbtw nymbia
09:09.25sedatedChipmunkthey all say that
09:09.39HerioI used to top the meters, but that's cause my gear was ridiculous =P
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09:20.31FISKER_QBTW nymbia
09:20.35FISKER_Qor i'm spamming you :o
09:20.48nymbiahuhwha
09:20.54FISKER_Q:o
09:21.05FISKER_Qknow anything about the PT3 mendeleev branch?
09:21.12FISKER_Qi.e is it usable?
09:21.29nymbiai think it should be
09:21.32NightHawkTheSaneits usable
09:21.45NightHawkTheSanebut (last i checked) there's no way to limit whats shown in tooltips
09:24.43FISKER_Qalrightg
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09:38.06CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
09:38.06CIA-18- Fix Tradeskill.Crafted.Specialization
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09:47.01CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
09:47.01CIA-18- A couple more fixes to data stuff.
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09:56.33DhragaSorry for beeing a bit daft here, but I would need some clarification on a issue, the party pet health not updating correctly (after the patch I belive) is that a blizzard malfunctioning, or have they changed the code and the custom frames needs a update for it ?
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09:56.52doktoreashi to all
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09:57.34doktoreasdo you know if bigwigs has got some difference from LaVendetta?
09:57.48doktoreasmy guild has put LaVendetta as requirement for raid
09:58.08doktoreasbut i always used (with happiness..) bigwigs
10:00.17nymbiadoktoreas: they accomplish the same basic goal, but they're not compatible with each other
10:00.49doktoreasthx nymbia
10:01.55doktoreasnymbia, do you think i should be fine with bigwigs in karazhan?
10:02.00nomityhrtwho r u
10:02.27ZOASzomg, the latest Sarah Silverman Project is so bad.  Yet funny.
10:02.36Arrowmasterbigwigs is fine for karazhan, my guild uses it without any issues
10:03.13nymbiadoktoreas: you'll be fine with it, your bigger concern is if your guild will be upset that you dont have LV
10:03.34ZOASIntroduce them to the goodness that is BigWigs.
10:04.06CIA-1803ammo * r29874 10SimpleChatMods/antispam.lua: SimpleChatMods: block another chinese farm
10:04.22doktoreasyeah but this mean change all my ace2 interface
10:06.05[Ammo]boggle?
10:06.15[Ammo]how does changing 1 addon change your interface?
10:06.27[Ammo]as far as I know you just get a deadlybossmods minimap button
10:06.31[Ammo]and lose the bigwigs one
10:06.57doktoreas[Ammo], k
10:07.00doktoreasyou are right
10:07.09doktoreasi thught that should use other lib
10:07.14ZealotOnAStickAnyone a Stargate Atlantis fan?  What the heck episode were there Replicators on Atlantis prior to the Season 3 mid-season cliffhanger show and its conclusion?
10:07.34NightHawkTheSaneo_0 replicators on atlantis?
10:07.48NightHawkTheSanedammit! way to spoil season 3 for me. :P
10:07.56Arrowmasterlol
10:08.26ZealotOnAStickWell, I don't consider it much of a spoiler given that the first half of that aired already a couple months ago in the US.
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10:08.46ZealotOnAStickI just . . . don't ever remember the first time they were there, and none of the episode summaries mention them.
10:09.21NightHawkTheSanewell, i should be able to tell you within a week. i'm on 208 now, so it wont take me long to get to 320
10:09.30doktoreasthe memory usage seem also ok...API: ~800kb
10:09.55ArrowmasterZealotOnAStick: s03e05
10:11.05NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: i stopped watching atlantis sometime around the end of season 2 (moving across the country tends to make it difficult to keep up with television), im just now catching up. >.>
10:12.12CIA-1803ominous * r29875 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (8 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: Removed module core and some other fixes
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10:12.44Nickenyfikenfuck! i notice the milk was old after i put in in my coffee :-(
10:13.05ZealotOnAStickHmm.  I guess I missed that one, though I thought I'd seen all of the first half of the season.
10:13.51Arrowmasteri looked through them manually to find it, luckly it was close to where i started looking
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10:15.22NightHawkTheSaneNickenyfiken: that sucks. :\ What's worse is not realizing your meat is bad until after you start cooking it and it stinks up the apartment
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10:17.08Nickenyfikeneeew that never happend to me yet... usually i pick up the meat same they a cook it
10:17.18xyuyeah me too
10:17.25xyui just don't have room to buy a fuckton of meat
10:17.31Nickenyfikennow im gonna try out SCM
10:18.12Nickenyfikenme neither
10:18.18NightHawkTheSaneI normally do the same. I just have a bad habit of forgetting to cook the meat in a reasonable time period
10:19.59rophycan anyone tell me how to I stop Cartographer from broadcasting anything to the guild channel?
10:20.26rophyi removed guild pos module, disabled all modules and it's still broadcasting something
10:21.29NickenyfikenHmm hasnt that change so it only broadcast when you have Cartographer_Noteshare installed?
10:21.42Nickenyfikenmaybe except "general" notes
10:21.55rophyI tried turning on and off everything, incuding note and noteshare and it's still boardcasting
10:22.13NightHawkTheSanerophy: there's only one sure solution.
10:22.19NightHawkTheSaneFire. Lots of fire.
10:22.40Nickenyfikenhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4848.0
10:23.01rophyi am digging the forum and i saw that post
10:23.22rophybut still, i am broadcasting shit right now unless i turn off carto  :\
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10:27.11nymbiarophy: you sure it's notes? it might be guildpositions
10:27.30rophyI deleted guild position already :\
10:27.53ZealotOnAStickI guess I just don't understand why people dislike guild positions.
10:27.57ZealotOnAStickI think they're great.
10:28.14nymbiai like guildpositions :)
10:28.22rophyI just dont want to spam the guild.
10:28.35Nickenyfikeni like them too
10:29.14NightHawkTheSaneI like it, I just don't necessarily want the entire guild knowing my farming spots.
10:29.25nymbiahaha
10:29.38NightHawkTheSaneyes it's petty and selfish. no i'm not ashamed. :P
10:30.45ZealotOnAStickBecause there are just so many awesome secret money fountains.
10:31.15ZealotOnAStickI've found it helpful to know "oh, soandso's already there, I'll go elsewhere instead rather than fight for spawns
10:32.20rophywell, i dont care about my guild, i just want to make some personal notes and i still can't figure out how. I guess carto isn't for me.
10:32.53ZealotOnAStickCan't you toggle off all note sharing?
10:33.14rophyi toggled off all modules including note and note share and it's still broadcasting, i dunno why :\
10:33.14ZealotOnAStickis it sending anything of any interest at all?
10:33.27ZealotOnAStickwhat is it broadcasting?
10:33.31rophysome cryptic messages
10:33.50rophysomething like "tmafder++-"
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10:36.21ZealotOnAStickanything in any of the carto modules grep for part of that string, or is it some acecomm encoding?  Doesn't quite look like it's got a normal acecomm header
10:37.11nymbiathats certainly not big enough to be a note
10:37.55rophyI don't have any note yet, just installed it, so I guess it looks like guild position, but i don't even have that module in the carto directory.
10:38.13rophywell, nevermind about it, I removed carto.
10:38.32ZealotOnAStickHrm.  I'd like to figure out what module's doing it, and why.
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10:39.05ZealotOnAStickis that "something like" string above just a guess from memory or an actual string chunk?
10:39.28rophyi'd like to too, but i'm grouping with my friend and i think he wasn't very happy with me keep reloading UI. I will probably try some more later when I have time.
10:39.45rophyI'm using ViewAddonMessage to see the addon messages.
10:42.07ZealotOnAStickbah, I need to reinstall wingrep.
10:42.31ZealotOnAStickdidn't find any "tmaf" in any of the carto lua files.  Curious.
10:42.57ZealotOnAStickor maybe look at cygwin, does it have a grep?
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10:43.38rophyum, it was not exactly 'tmaf', something crpytic
10:43.46rophywait, i'll get a exact string
10:43.54nymbiaZealotOnAStick: looks like guildpositions, they're still firing for  with the module disabled..
10:43.58rophyaumcjimd+J+&
10:44.08rophybumcjimd+J+&
10:44.10rophycumcjimd+J+&
10:44.14Nickenyfiken~seen kagaro
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10:46.46nymbiaindeed.. the outbound messages are there regardless of the presence of the guildpositions module
10:47.04ZealotOnAStickThat's . . . counterintuitive to me.
10:47.12NightHawkTheSaneoh right, i think i recall that sending guild postions was built into cart core.
10:47.32Arrowmastertheres something commented out in the guildpositions module about stoping possition reporting when the modules disabled, but like i said its commented out i think
10:47.36NightHawkTheSanethe guild positions module only displays the info
10:47.48rophyif that is the case (built in the carto core), what does the guildposition module does then?
10:48.15Nickenyfikenshowing guildie notes on the map
10:49.01Nickenyfikeni guess
10:49.08rophyhmm
10:49.16NightHawkTheSaneyeah, it just does the actual display work
10:49.29ZealotOnAStickI thought (may be wrong) that there was a way to turn off position reporting?
10:50.15NightHawkTheSaneI asked that a while back, and recall being told that it was built into the core and there wasnt an option to do that. But, that was a while ago, so it might have changeds.
10:50.17ArrowmasterCartographer:DisableGuildSpammer()
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10:51.12rophyerror: attempt to call method "DisableGuildSpammer" ( a nil value)
10:51.23nymbiayeah it doesnt exist
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10:51.53nymbiabe easy to fix though
10:52.07nymbiawonder how attached ckknight is to that behavior?
10:52.38Nickenyfikenwell from what i have understood from forumposts guildposition sending is in the core and will stay so
10:52.46ZealotOnAStickI'd definitely say it's something that should be left as is by default, and have to be specifically disabled.
10:52.47Nickenyfikenmany disagreed i think
10:52.59rophyshould be easy to fix, i'm going to just not use this mod though.
10:53.20ZealotOnAStickIs it something that a little micro-module could do without tampering with the core code?
10:53.44Arrowmasterits all local in the core
10:53.47ZealotOnAStickCarto_Hush
10:53.53NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: i guess that depends on how embedded into the core logic that code is
10:54.40rophythis part isn't "efficient and modular" at all, I guess Carto simply isn't for me then.
10:55.32nymbiahmm... it even re-enables itself every minute if you kill the comm event with /script AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):CancelScheduledEvent("Cartographer_GuildPositions_SendMessage")
10:56.13rophywho wrote that part of the code?
10:56.28NightHawkTheSane$5 says it was ckknight
10:56.33ZealotOnAStickShould be able to, in theory, intercept or hook that function and replace/alter is, yeah?
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10:57.10NightHawkTheSaneyou could probably hook the function that sends the messages and just mute it that way, yeah
10:57.26nymbiaZealotOnAStick: it fires OnEnable so yeah you could kill it before it configured
10:57.27Arrowmasterfunction is local
10:57.31NightHawkTheSanehmm
10:57.53Nickenyfikenline #773 in Cartographer.lua "if not IsInGuild() then" could maybe be changed to "if true then". That would make the addon think your not in a guild
10:57.58Arrowmasterjust function Cartographer:ConfigureGuildSpammer() end before onenable is called
10:58.01Nickenyfikenbut thats a haxx
10:59.14NightHawkTheSaneNickenyfiken: that's changing the code directly, as opposed to just writing some addon to hack into the existing functionality
11:00.15nymbiacould also setfenv() it
11:00.31NightHawkTheSanecan you hook SendCommMessage, and look for the guildpos messages, filtering them out?
11:00.44Arrowmasterjust make an addon with Cartographer as a dependancy and do function Cartographer:ConfigureGuildSpammer() end
11:01.04rophywhy even try to hack fix it, if the author wants it that way
11:01.07NickenyfikenNightHawkTheSane: yeah i know i said that was a haxx and what i meant was that is no good cus you have to alter the core code :-)
11:01.15ArrowmasterLoadWith: Cartographer too for better results
11:01.32NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: thats probably the cleanest way, i'd imagine
11:02.11NightHawkTheSanerophy: a) because maybe someone wants it differently, but more importantly b) because we can! :P
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11:08.43rophyI think I'll just dump Carto and try out CT_MapMod, it looks efficient for my requirement.
11:09.46ZealotOnAStickUgh. :/
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11:16.36nymbiaso here's a question.. I
11:17.33nymbia've got a new version of PT3 where a return of just one API func is incompatible.. should i go ahead and make it 3.1 or just commit it and see what breaks?
11:18.20Nickenyfikennot so many addons use it yet?
11:18.27ZealotOnAStickDid you ever declare the PT3 API finished and complete?  Or is it still arguable that it's beta enough that it's an acceptable change?
11:18.27Arrowmasterdoes anybody use that func?
11:18.44nymbiaits a rarely used func
11:19.07ZealotOnAStickGo ninja change the API docs in the wiki/post.
11:19.12nymbiahaha
11:19.20ZealotOnAStickthen commit it as a "fix" to the function.
11:19.46nymbiawell all i know of that uses it are PT3Browser, Carto_InstanceLoot, and GrindStatus.  easy fixes all around.
11:19.49Arrowmasteryou sound as if you speak from experience
11:20.29ZealotOnAStickI'm just 1) devious and 2) have worked support/QA for a number of software companies, and had to learn some of the programmers' little tricks.
11:20.46nymbiahell, it'll be an easy fix for anything that uses it, but i'm not sure if there's more addons that use it that i dont know of
11:21.28Nickenyfikenfucking crap got killed when i tabbed out to win for 15 sec :-/
11:21.56Nickenyfikenhmm what addons would that be?
11:22.16nymbiawell all that function's used for is if you need a list of all the items in a given set
11:22.23Arrowmasterim kinda for just commiting it as 3.0 since i think bumping revision numbers for 1 single api change is silly
11:23.18SroshI second that
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11:23.41ZealotOnAStickmotion heard, seconded.  All in favor, type aye.
11:24.05Arrowmasteralthough put a big capitalized warning in the commit message that theres an api change
11:24.26Arrowmasteror something like that
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11:25.43nymbiahmm.. this is gonna be one hell of a commit message, lol
11:26.06ZealotOnAStickI still like my devious approach.  ;)
11:26.50Nickenyfikenlol something is really screwed up in my TrainerFu branch... i have tooltips show up hovering lines in the tablet but apparently it add those tooltips to all FuBar plugins using clickable tablets
11:26.55nymbia"PeriodicTable-3.0: this is not the commit message you are looking for.  the api is as it has always been.  move along."
11:27.24Arrowmasteri didnt say you had to document the api change in the commit message or anything, just something saying theres an api change
11:27.35nymbiayeah I know ;)
11:27.37Arrowmasterim going back to looking at porn
11:28.18doktoreassorry is there an addon that add just mouse scrolling in chat windows?
11:29.33ZealotOnAStickShould be a couple that do that.
11:29.49ZealotOnAStickIf nothing else, I think there's still a standaloneish MouseScroll in cosmos or something.
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11:30.11ZealotOnAStickAs much as I hate to say that word, it should be something you can yank out of there.
11:30.22ZealotOnAStickI don't -recall- it having any dependencies the last time I bothered to look.
11:31.31doktoreasi'll look for chat scroll
11:45.53CIA-1803nymbia * r29876 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (10 files in 10 dirs): (log message trimmed)
11:45.53CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
11:45.53CIA-18- *WARNING: API CHANGE. SEE BELOW*
11:45.53CIA-18- Changed return of :GetSetTable(). See wiki for more info.
11:45.53CIA-18- Fixed a bug in makeNonPresentMultiSet that would cause it to fail at making sets with irregular characters.
11:45.54CIA-18- Switched set and cache generation into metamethods, this should decrease overhead a tad (as well as helping make everything a bit easier to read.
11:45.59CIA-18- Cache now properly clears when a new version of a set is introduced.
11:46.08yacoobwhat is the limit level on Old Hillsbrad?
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11:46.33Nickenyfiken67 i think
11:46.36NightHawkTheSane65 i think?
11:46.36ZealotOnAStick66 non-heroic.
11:46.47NightHawkTheSanehm, maybe it is 66
11:46.51ZealotOnAStickHave to be 66 to get the tour quest, at any rate.
11:47.04NightHawkTheSaneah, well yeah, you cant zone in without doing that quest, so
11:47.39CIA-1803nymbia * r29877 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
11:47.39CIA-18GrindStatus:
11:47.39CIA-18- Fix for PT3 API change.
11:48.17Nickenyfikendamn i hate when i dont know what i am doing :-P
11:49.01yacoobyou're sure you can't zone in without doing the tour quest?
11:49.30Arrowmasteryes
11:49.42CIA-1803nymbia * r29878 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.lua:
11:49.42CIA-18PT3Browser:
11:49.43CIA-18- Fix for PT3 API change.
11:51.12Nickenyfikennymbia: heeeeelp me :-P
11:51.22nymbiaNickenyfiken: ?
11:51.33Nickenyfikenyou wrote InstanceLoot right?
11:51.45nymbiayup
11:51.56Nickenyfikendi you or ckk add onEnterFunc in tablet?
11:52.00Nickenyfikendid*
11:52.22nymbiain tablet? he did
11:53.12NickenyfikenOk, well i dont know what i am doing wrong but the tooltips i add in my FuBar plugins tablet seems to popup in all tablets :-P
11:53.19Nickenyfikenyou got any clue what im doing wrong?
11:54.01nymbiano idea.. my guess would be that the onEnterFunc isnt clearing properly
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11:56.20CIA-1803nymbia * r29879 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua:
11:56.20CIA-18Cartographer: InstanceLoot:
11:56.20CIA-18- Fix for PT3 API change.
11:56.35Nickenyfikenhmm hmm
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12:09.05Nickenyfikenyeah well im puzzled... and i am not skilled enough to know if i am doing it wrong or if there is a bug in tablet
12:10.45nymbiamaybe set onEnterFunc to an empty function?  sounds like a tablet bug if i had to guess
12:11.21nymbiahmm.. not happening for me though.  weird.
12:11.50NightHawkTheSane"And the Clowns?" "The clowns? Oh, the clowns. Well, we fight them too. Entire armies, stepping out of volkswagons. We do our best to fight them off, but.. they keep sending more." hehe
12:12.46Nickenyfikennymbia: well InstanceLoot only calls SetHyperlink right?
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12:13.19nymbiaNickenyfiken: yeah
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12:15.01Nickenyfikenand 'onLeaveFunc', GameTooltip.Hide, 'onLeaveArg1', GameTooltip is there just to hide the tooltip when cursor leaves the Tablet line right?
12:15.14nymbiayup
12:15.39yacoobhm
12:15.42yacoobbgFu bugged?
12:15.56yacoob(doesn't show much on EotS, have trouble with fc in wsg...)
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12:17.52xyuClosetGnome won't unequip my shield.  It greys it out and then the shield becomes stuck when i try swapping a 2h'er in :(
12:18.02xyustays grey until i relog
12:18.27xyuhmm i'll try a diff shield
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12:26.15FISKER_QHas anyone seen a blood elf with 385 enchanting? :P
12:26.53yacoobhm
12:27.15yacoobdoes anyone remember name of this crazy gnome in Dustwallow Marsh?
12:27.17FISKER_QOnly got 362 myself :(
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12:27.52Nickenyfikennymbia: my addon use the same code as InstanceLoot does and it still shows up :-)
12:28.10Nickenyfikenmaybe it is because InstanseLoot is not a FuBar plugin
12:28.55nymbiaoh, yeah.  probably.
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12:33.56FISKER_Qah nymbia
12:33.58FISKER_Qi hate you
12:34.05FISKER_Qnow toadkiller has to update autobar
12:34.11FISKER_Q:(
12:34.31nymbiaaw i think i'm gonna cry FISKER_Q
12:34.41nymbiayou coulda just said 'nymbia fix it'
12:34.53nymbiait's a quick fix ;)
12:35.03FISKER_Qbtw
12:35.04FISKER_Q[2007/03/10 13:31:19-505-x1]: PeriodicTable-3.0-29876:171: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
12:35.14FISKER_Qtoadkiller would be mad!
12:35.23Nickenyfikenmuahahaha
12:35.24NightHawkTheSanenymbia: FIXORZ ITS PLZ!
12:36.21NightHawkTheSaneits probably something trivial you can just change in your working copy
12:37.07FISKER_Qprobably
12:37.38cncfanaticsGagorian, you here ?
12:37.46cncfanatics~seen Gagorian
12:38.11purlgagorian is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 1d 18h 31m 55s, last said: 'it will be higher when the debuff will increase dots and sbolt'.
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12:44.58nymbiahm. toadkiller's code scares me.. i was gonna just drycode the fix and commit it but.. i think i'll load it up after seeing it O.o
12:45.23NightHawkTheSanea lot of that isn't his code, to be fair
12:45.49nymbiatrue
12:45.58[dRaCo]anyone familiar with msbt?
12:46.27Fisker-yeah i am
12:46.31nymbia[dRaCo]: i use it, only done a small bit of advanced config tho
12:46.33Fisker-a bit anyways
12:47.02[dRaCo]is there a way to display the spells my totem of earthbinding absorbs?
12:47.22nevcairielistn that grounding ?
12:47.35[dRaCo]yeah
12:47.35CIA-1803nymbia * r29880 10AutoBar/AutoBarItemList.lua:
12:47.35CIA-18AutoBar:
12:47.35CIA-18- Fix for PT3 API change.
12:47.52nymbiaFisker-: ^testplz ;)
12:47.59[dRaCo]just got up, gotta wake up ^^
12:48.12Fisker-be afraid nymbia
12:48.16Fisker-bbe very afraid
12:48.32nymbiais toadkiller gonna destroy me for commiting to autobar?
12:48.34[dRaCo]s/totem of earthbinding/grounding totem/
12:48.35Fisker-he's gonna be pissed probably
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12:48.39[dRaCo]:)
12:48.42|Casey|hi
12:48.48Azurewrathanyone seen "Smokin' Aces"? :)
12:48.51nymbiawell it was that or leave it broken ;)
12:49.03Fisker-or with kergoth it was probably just because it raped his own editors since they didn't read the linux EOF
12:49.38NightHawkTheSanenymbia: he probably wont mind, though tossing a post up in his thread explaining what/why might be an idea
12:50.13nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: good idea
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12:55.38CIA-1803nymbia * r29881 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
12:55.38CIA-18Manufac:
12:55.38CIA-18- More checks for chunks of auctioneer.
12:57.44CIA-1803nymbia * r29882 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua:
12:57.44CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
12:57.44CIA-18- Avoid internal explosions if anyone's mean enough to make a set with an itemid of 1.
12:57.56nevcairielheh
13:00.41[dRaCo]grmpf, anyone willing to help me with a regex?
13:01.34CIA-1803nymbia * r29883 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua:
13:01.34CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
13:01.34CIA-18- Added :IsSetMulti(setname). Thanks Elkano for the suggestion.
13:01.39NightHawkTheSane[dRaCo]: assuming you mean real regex and not "lua expressions", shoot, ill try
13:01.58[dRaCo]it's for msbt, so I assume it's lua expression
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13:02.38[dRaCo]"Phase Hunter's Manaburn fails. Grounding Totem is immune." <-- I need the spell name from that one
13:04.22vhaarr"^.-%'s%s(%a+)%s fails%." maybe
13:04.38vhaarrerr
13:04.43vhaarr"^.-%'s%s(%a+)%sfails%."
13:05.07[dRaCo]thanks, I'll give it a try
13:05.33NightHawkTheSanedamn, that makes me cry just reading it. It must be right.
13:06.04nymbiait'll miss multiple-word spells
13:06.09Finare there any spells that would fail that have 's or spaces in them?
13:07.01vhaarr[dRaCo]: nymbia is right, btw
13:07.01NightHawkTheSaneI'm sure there are multi word spells, dont think there's any with "'". ALthough there are mobs with that, it could cause issues
13:07.23Fintry %S instead of %a
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13:07.34Finer
13:07.36Finno don't
13:07.41[dRaCo]there are multi word spells... mana burn e.g.
13:07.56nevcairielIts Manaburn :p
13:08.01[dRaCo]yeah.
13:08.03nevcairielyour own post showed it :D
13:08.09[dRaCo]damn, should go back to bed.
13:08.41Fin.+ should work, if you have the "%sfails%." bit at the end, I think
13:08.47Fisker-testing now btw nymbia
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13:09.04nymbiaFisker-: thanks
13:09.04[dRaCo]Chain Lightning.
13:09.49nevcairielare there any spells with 's in them?
13:10.03Fisker-works
13:10.54CIA-1803nymbia * r29884 10AutoBar/AutoBarItemList.lua:
13:10.54CIA-18AutoBar:
13:10.54CIA-18- Use PT:IsSetMulti() for PT table style checks, to clarify code.
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13:11.13Finalthough, it might be nice to see "mana burn fails" instead of just "mana burn" scrolling past?
13:11.15CIA-1803elkano * r29885 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
13:11.15CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
13:11.16CIA-18- added tailoring specializations
13:11.16CIA-18- added missing sets to PeriodicTable-3.0-Tradeskill standalone
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13:13.02[dRaCo]I wanted something like "Spell Grounded! (Mana Burn)"
13:13.47vhaarr"^.-%'s%s(%a+)%sfails%. (Grounding Totem is immune)%."
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13:14.28Finthat'll still miss multi word spells
13:14.52vhaarr"^.-%'s%s(.-)%sfails%. (Grounding Totem is immune)%."
13:15.17Fin.-, yeah, that would be better than .+
13:15.21yacoobuuuuurgh
13:15.27yacoobwow players targeted porn
13:16.20Fin?!
13:17.04[dRaCo]the event for that would is CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CREATURE_VS_CREATURE_DAMAGE, isn't itß
13:17.06[dRaCo]?
13:19.48CIA-1803nymbia * r29886 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua:
13:19.48CIA-18Cartographer: InstanceLoot:
13:19.48CIA-18- Use PT:IsSetMulti().
13:19.48CIA-18- That's all in this commit. Of course I didn't break any encoding last time. >.>
13:20.48Finhehe
13:20.58nymbia;)
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13:24.01Gandharvanevcairiel are you here?
13:24.58Gandharvabartender3: leftlick on fubar icon to unlock buttons doesn´t work
13:27.48nevcairielread the tooltip
13:34.50CIA-1803nymbia * r29887 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (7 files in 7 dirs):
13:34.50CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
13:34.50CIA-18- Prep for splitting data modules into LoD miniaddons.
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14:04.11HjalteOminous ping
14:04.20wobinhm
14:04.31wobinIs that like a really deep ping?
14:04.41wobinThat forbodes great trouble ahead?
14:04.49HjalteIt's just a -Are you here?- ping :)
14:04.52wobinhehe
14:05.09nymbialol
14:05.15wobincan someone try http://svnbook.red-bean.org and tell me if they can load the page?
14:05.33trhwobin: doesnt work
14:05.34nevcairieldns error
14:05.52wobin=(
14:05.53trh<PROTECTED>
14:06.00wobintry .com?
14:06.15nevcairielI started yesterday learning C# .. i really like it .. plain and simple language :)
14:06.16trh<PROTECTED>
14:06.28wobin=(
14:06.30trhnevcairiel: already used get { } and set { }? :)
14:06.35wobinsubversion book. wru?
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14:06.48trhnevcairiel: i think thats the best feature of the language :)
14:06.56wobinc# is nice
14:07.03nevcairieltrh: not yet, only been toying around with it a bit
14:07.34trhnevcairiel: those accessors are just awesome.. they make access to stuff so simple and nice
14:07.42nevcairielget and set like the functions in php ?
14:07.58haarmyep
14:08.11trhdon't know the ones ini php
14:08.33nevcairielhm
14:08.38nevcairiela bit like metatables in lua
14:08.52nevcairiellooks really good
14:09.17Unrealiiwhich use acecommzonefdbf76 channel ?
14:09.39nevcairielCarto_QuestObjectives
14:09.45trhit's very nice for gui stuff just to have a .Title text variable set it and the repaint update is done without doing anything else :)
14:09.53Unrealiithank you :)
14:10.09nevcairielyeah looks great
14:10.50Unrealiione more question
14:11.04Unrealiiwhy use acecommzoneXXXXXX instead of SendAddonMessage Channel?
14:11.38trhb/c there's none Zone addonmessage channel maybe?
14:11.57nevcairielyup
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14:12.28CIA-1803wobin * r29888 10/branches/MrPlow/: Creating branch
14:12.29Unrealiiah
14:12.45CIA-1803wobin 07Wobin * r29889 10MrPlow/: MrPlow: Branching for work
14:12.56Fisker-what was that cool buff addon which wasn't EBB?
14:12.59nevcairielwob actually working on poor MrPlow again?
14:13.08wobin=\
14:13.10wobinrewrite =P
14:13.23nevcairielheh
14:13.35nevcairielcan you add the MrPlow theme song?
14:13.38nevcairielwhile plowing?
14:13.39nevcairiel:D
14:13.46trhi'm always amazed at how fast you can rewrite stuff... just because all the thinking work is basically done :)
14:14.29wobinoh this isn't going to be a fast rewrite =P
14:14.33Unrealiii'm short channel this channel(acecommzoneXXX)
14:14.36wobinI have to reconceptualise the whole thing =P
14:14.48trhok.. then it's gonna take a littlebit longer =)
14:14.52wobinsince it's horrifically spaghetti procedural code atm
14:15.07wobinnevcairiel: Get me the mp3? =)
14:15.14nevcairielhrm
14:15.17nevcairielmight do that
14:15.27nevcairieli have the episode as avi somewhere
14:17.21vhaarrwobin: plx
14:17.32vhaarrHerb waypoints!
14:17.58nevcairielvhaarr: if you want something done, do it yourself!
14:18.12vhaarrindeed
14:18.25nevcairielor pester even more
14:18.25nevcairiel:D
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14:19.49wobinhehe
14:20.03wobinYou could probably do a better version of herb waypoints anyway =)
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14:20.44Chosianyone got an idea why my game looks so crappy on a tft? the chat and some other text in fubar for example look stretched somehow
14:20.48Chosiit's only on some chars
14:20.59trhChosi: wrong resolution?
14:21.03Punkie`der be a mudkip stuck in it
14:21.03wobinnon native resolution?
14:21.08Chosinah same resolution on botch chars
14:21.17Chosi1 looks good, the other looks slightly stretched
14:21.59vhaarrwobin: No, I don't know anything about the Cartographer code.
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14:22.07Chosi:S
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14:23.22wobinWoW takes mp3s as the soundfile, yeah?
14:23.40trhyeah, but they have to exist when wow starts
14:23.54trhso adding them into the file and /rl doesnt work
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14:24.15trh(adding the names or the mp3 files to the specified folders)
14:24.27cladhaire... yeah,thats a limitation for everything..
14:24.32cladhaireshouldn't be a suprise.
14:25.12trhyeah.. but it's stupid
14:25.19cladhaireno its not.
14:25.27cladhaireits to prevent communication with other processes
14:25.32cladhaireand it makes complete sense.
14:25.37trhon a reloadui?
14:25.46trhno one does reloaduis 20 times to communicate with a process
14:25.52cladhaireits the SAME limitation
14:26.00cladhairethe game only enumerates the files when the game is opened.;
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14:26.07cladhairebecause of the way LoD and other tuff works.
14:26.54trhif you want to communicate with processes you can already use reloadui - just write the stuff to a .lua file?
14:27.07cladhairei was talking about the overall limitation.
14:27.15cladhairenot the reloadui one.
14:27.17trhya.. but that limitation is stupid :)
14:27.32trhwhy not enumerate all files new on a /special reloadui?
14:27.33cladhairehe'll give it back, you'll just lose load on demand and everything else.
14:28.12cladhairehere's a hint, Slouken is a pretty smart cookie.. there's a reason.
14:28.23cladhaire=)
14:28.26trhbut if implemented with a special command there'd be no problem :)
14:28.33cladhairesays you.
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14:36.27vhaarrckknight: Would it be an idea to make Tablet optional for FBP-2.0, for people who want to use it with their addon where people do not necessarily use FuBar, so they get a nice minimap icon? Possibly even Dewdrop could be optional.
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14:55.33mitch1hi
14:55.58mitch1whatever happened to Cartographer_Vendors? shouldn't it be in the SVN  repo?
15:00.18yacoobF1.
15:00.24yacoobGridLayoutByInstance works for BG?
15:01.17vhaarrmitch0: The author didn't want to stay at wowace, so he removed them from the SVN.
15:04.50Grolli dont get it what some ppl have against wowace :S
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15:10.09vhaarrThere's some thread where someone says a harsh word to him, and after that post, he left.
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15:24.48snurrenerf elemental shaman dps
15:25.41Fisker-lmao vhaarr
15:26.27Tornhoofnah snurre
15:26.49snurrehttp://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7255/loladpsua9.jpg
15:27.09snurrethats unbuffed
15:27.24Tornhoofso what
15:27.33Tornhoofafter 2min hes oom
15:27.46Tornhoofand needs to regen 2mins
15:27.48Tornhoof;)
15:28.01snurrewarlock: http://crit-happens.net/snurre/228.jpg   rogue: http://crit-happens.net/Doppi/228.jpg
15:28.40Tornhoofbut it still don't understand your point
15:28.50Tornhoofthe ele shaman can't hold the dps up for long
15:28.58Tornhoof90s is a good value, 2min is pretty much max
15:29.06Tornhoofthe rogue can go infinite
15:29.06snurre2.5mins without pots or any backup
15:29.12Tornhoofthe warlock pretty much too
15:29.28cladhairewhats the latest and greatest warlock mod from you guys?
15:29.42snurreput shadowpriest and resto shaman in the shamans group, use pots and he'll be going for alot longer
15:29.44Tornhoofthe shaman didn't even manage 2mins in that video
15:29.58Tornhoofput the warlock in that group
15:30.05Tornhoofand he'll beat that dps without any problem
15:30.17snurrenot the DPS, no.. but overall damage, yes
15:30.41Tornhoofthe shaman can improve the dps even further
15:30.48Tornhoofif he shocks too
15:30.53Tornhoofwell hes oom in 60s
15:31.02Tornhoofbut he'll get his 1.5k dps ;)
15:31.25snurrehttp://stage6.divx.com/members/513763/videos/1146067
15:31.33Tornhoofi know that video
15:31.37snurrek
15:31.38Tornhoofand it is utterly useless
15:31.49Tornhoofbecause he's 100% oom after 2min
15:32.28snurrebut he doesnt use any consumables or anything.. 130k dmg for 8k mana
15:32.38Tornhoofand?
15:32.43Tornhoofask that warlock again
15:32.48snurrethe warlock is me :p
15:32.57Tornhoofsee
15:33.13Tornhooflifetap here, lifetap there
15:33.19Tornhoofand here we go agani
15:33.27snurrehttp://stage6.divx.com/content/show/1147915?user_id=613251  <-- rogue vid
15:33.41snurrehttp://stage6.divx.com/members/492167/videos/1147265  <-- lock vid
15:33.48Tornhoofthe shaman needs around 2.5min-3min to regain his mana
15:34.01Tornhoofso we're talking of a max. 50% nuking time
15:34.12Tornhoofeven with a shadowpriest, pala blessing and stuff
15:34.18Tornhoofhe'll be max 66/33
15:34.23Tornhoof% nuking
15:34.32Tornhoofwhich means he'll be down to like 600 dps
15:35.01Tornhoofbut yes blizzard wasn't very smart to change clearcasting to work on every crit instead of 10%
15:35.13Tornhoofgiven that the talent tree itself will give a shaman 11% crit
15:35.27Tornhoofbut thats blizzar
15:35.28Tornhoofd
15:35.42Tornhoofno brains, math or whatever involved in talent changes ;)
15:35.44snurreim fine with them being able to do 700ish sustained, but having that high average AND higher bursts than pretty much anyone else.. well
15:36.22Tornhoofhe won't do 700ish sustained
15:36.29Tornhoofhe'll do 400 sustained
15:36.31snurrein a raid, yes he will
15:36.42snurredid it yesterday
15:37.05Tornhoofyes in a raid, so what?, you'll do 900ish sustained
15:37.14Tornhoofgiven pala and shadow priest
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15:38.09Tornhoofand he'll have aggro without paladin too ;)
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15:39.13Grollvhaarr well hehe.. but i do have to say some of you devs could improve the umm dunno the right word but hospitality when they speak :P
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15:39.39chutwigdoes the spirit weapons threat reduction apply to shocks too?
15:39.55Grollno
15:40.01Grollonly melee
15:40.10vhaarrGroll: No, it's the other people who have to adjust to us, not the other way around.
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15:41.02Grollvhaarr well i guess ppl can have different meanings on that subject but i do think some of the devs can be a bit harsh
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15:42.10Tornhoofyou want a real imbalanced encounter with an ele shaman snurre, go loatheb ;)
15:42.30snurrehaha
15:42.48chutwigwhumpch
15:43.00chutwigi was planning on sleeping in this morning
15:43.18chutwigfortunately the higger next door woke me up with some awful rap music that is bringing back memories of being in a freshman dorm
15:43.24CIA-1803prandur * r29890 10FuBar_ItemBonusesFu/ItemBonusesFu.lua: FuBar_ItemBonusesFu: New bonuses provided by Daddelkopp
15:43.29Industrialhttp://code.google.com/p/industrial-wow/wiki/zButtons
15:43.31Industrial=)
15:43.37JJSheetslol chutwig
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15:44.28chutwigwhich means i'm up and about and ready to go back to grinding up rep on my new main
15:44.30Tornhoofis there any public availabe wow item db, which is pretty much complete? or do i need to parse allakazham?
15:44.57Industrialwowhead :D?
15:45.18Tornhoofi can't download that can i?
15:45.22Industrialdunno how complete it is
15:45.22Industrialno
15:45.40chutwigbrrrrrrrrrr-UMP brrrrrrrrrr-UMP brrrrrrrrrr-UMP
15:45.46Tornhoofi want to finally finish my gear optimization code ;)
15:46.10Industrialso you add an item database of every item known to man/humanoid?
15:46.48Tornhoofwell i wrote some code to optimize stats on for enh shamans, ele shamans and resto shamans
15:47.06Tornhoofnon linear optimization with n constranits basically
15:47.39Tornhoofnext step is finding the optimal gear combo which fits the calculated values
15:47.46Fisker-tried blizzard?
15:48.23Fisker-http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml
15:48.24Fisker-:P
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15:48.40GrollTornhoof where is that code? :P
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15:48.54Fisker-i had been wondering if stuff like ashbringer and such is in that code :o
15:49.21Tornhoofdunno if i can parse the armory data tbh
15:49.31Grolland Tornhoof are you using the values form the elitist jerks forum? :P
15:49.46m4rku5hey guys anyone got that url where i can read about all that changes for the latest revisions/commits?
15:49.50Tornhoofgroll, i can give you the maple worksheet for enh shamans and partial maple sheet for ele
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15:50.16Tornhoofno my equations are a bit more complex then the stuff used in the ej forum
15:50.19Tornhoofatleast for enh
15:50.22Tornhoofele is pretty easy
15:50.45Grollya crit :P
15:50.59Tornhoofyes pretty much ;)
15:51.06Tornhoofas is enh to be honest
15:51.25Grollok does it take into account for when crit becomes better over hit and such?
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15:52.52Tornhoofwell it's full non linear optimization
15:53.16Grollnot exactly sure what you mean by that :P
15:53.28Tornhoofyou have a targetfunction
15:53.32Tornhoofwhich is in our case DPS
15:53.38Tornhoofyou have certain constraints
15:53.42Tornhooflike weapon speed
15:53.44Tornhoofetc.
15:53.57Tornhoofnow you try to optimize the target function
15:54.05Grollokies, for weaponspeeds.. does it take into consideration for haste stuff? :P
15:54.30Pneudoes anyone know of a friends syncing addon that has been updated for BC?
15:54.30Grollin any way i would very much like to take a look at it when it's done :D
15:54.30Tornhoofit does consider flurry, not haste buffs
15:54.35Grollokies
15:54.38Pneuto sync friends across all chars
15:55.19Tornhoofyou can read the output more or less on the wow-europe german math sticky thread
15:55.41Grolluuum wow german? where what? :P
15:55.52Grolloh u mean to go to the german wow forums ah
15:55.54Grollhmm
15:56.00Grolli doubt i will understand a lot :P
15:56.04Grollaint it in german?:P
15:56.19yacoobaber naturlisch!
15:56.38trhyacoob: i'll sell you a umlaut for only 10gold :P
15:56.52m4rku5lol :D
15:56.59Tornhoofit's mostly math after all
15:57.09Grollheh oke i'll go have a looksee
15:57.10vhaarrPneu: AuldLangSyne
15:57.11yacoobtrh, I refuse to buy it!
15:57.35Tornhoofanyway, the optimization given 2 70dps weapons, 1500 AP is [900.340027617447049, [hit = 19.3999999999999986, WS1 = 2.79999999999999982, crit = 35., WS2 = 2.79999999999999982]]
15:57.40Pneuvhaarr: thx, will take a look
15:57.53Tornhoofagainst a lvl 73 mob
15:57.58Tornhoofwithout shared wf cooldowns
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16:00.26Grollok
16:00.37Grollgot better weapon than that though :D epic mace ftw :D
16:00.45Grollbut damn it did cost to make :p
16:01.38cladhaireIs there an ace warlock "sphere" mod?
16:01.43cladhairei.e. necrosis?
16:02.07PneuNecronomicon
16:02.28Tornhoofbtw the same calculation with shared cooldown is some 130 dps less ;)
16:02.33cladhaireupdated?
16:02.35Industrialhttp://code.google.com/p/industrial-wow/wiki/zChat
16:02.42cladhairecause last on wowi is from may of 2006 =)
16:02.51Industrialdocs = boring :P
16:03.33Kaeltenello
16:03.47nevcairielhello Kaelten
16:03.53cladhaireheyas Kael
16:04.01GrollTornhoof ya i know but we could use a slight dps nerf.. but just not the way they are planning to do it
16:04.10Kaeltenback in alabama now :)
16:04.15cladhairehehe
16:04.21trhsweet home alabama ;)
16:04.38Kaeltenheh, not for too much longer
16:04.43KaeltenI'll be moving to cali end of april
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16:04.54trhcali is probably nice too
16:05.12Kaeltenoh ya spent the last two weeks in san fran
16:05.26KaeltenI really enjoyed the town
16:05.27Kaelten:)
16:05.34trhi do only know it from tv, but it looks nice there :)
16:05.50Tornhoofyeh groll, both ele "fix" and enh "fix" is bad work ;)
16:06.19trhalthough miami is prolly nicer ;)
16:06.39Grollwell elefix i can live with :P
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16:08.14mitch1anyone knows which addon contains Gratuity-2.0.lua? (or did that move with Carto_Vendors as well?
16:09.39FISKER_Qgratuity is a standalone library i think
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16:09.50FISKER_Qit's embedded in the standalonelibraries package
16:10.16trhprolly wowace/trunk/gratuitylib
16:10.24mitch1thanks
16:11.45mitch1too bad carto_vendors moved :(
16:12.17Industrialhttp://code.google.com/p/industrial-wow/wiki/zMinimap
16:13.13Sarozsqueenix
16:14.25cladhaireDoes Necronomicon2 work or is it still in development?
16:14.32Grollsex drogen... und industri.. *bounces* :P
16:14.40IndustrialGroll: !
16:14.55Grollcombichrist ftw :D
16:14.59Industrialya :D
16:15.04Groll:P
16:15.15Industrialdo you have the soman remix?
16:15.21Grollhmm
16:15.24Grolllemme check :P
16:15.28Industrialits on the sex, dgrogen und industrial album
16:15.38Industrial%05
16:15.43Industrials/%/#/
16:15.45Industrial:P
16:16.22Grollya i got it but it's not in my playlist on my wow mp3 player :p
16:17.16Grolldamn there is a lot of this is my rifle remixes :P
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16:21.06IndustrialSunTiger_: --^ you might like this band
16:21.26Kaeltentrh: nicer? who knows? hotter? much.
16:21.33KaeltenI rather be a little cool than hot all the time
16:23.32GrollKaelten medium is better :P
16:24.00Grolllike 18-22 degrees outside with a lil wind would be perfect :D
16:24.57snurreeww
16:25.00snurregivf 40
16:25.07Grollcelsius i mean
16:25.10snurresame
16:25.22Grollu want 40 degrees and all swetty and icky? :p
16:25.41snurreim from the north, im way more comfy in 40 plus, than 40 minus :p
16:25.50snurrei <3 heat
16:25.56Grolluerk :P
16:26.15Grollsnurre gävle or even more north? :P
16:26.54snurremore
16:26.58Grollhehe oke
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16:27.14snurrenear the north cape
16:27.18Grollhehe oke
16:27.34Grollbtw does anyone know if u can make discoveries with bs just as alchemy? :p
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16:48.49Grolldoh
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16:49.44Grollah lol it was the one i'm not gonna use :P
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17:16.00ThraeI'm having problems with identd. Has anyone succesfully setup identd on their system? I'm using nullidentd, but I'm open to suggestions.
17:16.46nevcairielI run oidentd
17:17.15nevcairielran out of the box on debian
17:20.35Daemonaoidentd is ok
17:20.37Daemona:)
17:21.11Daemonabeen using it for some time when quakenet forced identd replies from ppl connect via my ISP ..
17:21.37nevcairielheh
17:21.50nevcairieli run it on my server because quakenet requires identd on bouncers
17:22.18Tornhooffakeidentd if you just need one reply ;)
17:22.21Daemonareminds me off somtheing... i still have to get a vroot...
17:22.38Daemonafor bnc, vpn on the road and shit :/
17:23.02Thraeoidentd did the trick
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17:34.02Tupsiwhat are you guys using for cooldown timers in bartender?
17:34.29nevcairielOmniCC
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17:35.18Tupsithanks
17:35.45lassizcialso CooldownCount does the job.
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17:41.14CIA-18ArcHUD2:
17:41.14CIA-18* Added ability to move target frames with the mouse
17:41.14CIA-18* Changed minimum value for vertical alignment from -50 to -100
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18:30.05Barbanushmmmm it would be cool if ratings buster would show you how much your spirit is equal to in mp5 .. or the other way around
18:31.16kergothBarbanus: i'd love an addon like that.. and agi to crit and str to ap and such
18:31.33Barbanusagil to crit is done by ratings buster already
18:31.35art3mishrm the chick who does the voice for the Blood Rayne video games is kinna cute
18:31.46art3mishttp://www.lizardbee.com
18:32.18art3misBarbanus: on a priest the 15 spirit chest  works out the same as the 6mp/5 at about 220 spirit
18:32.23kergothit is? didnt realize they added that
18:32.27Barbanusyea, its new
18:32.33kergothneat
18:32.46Barbanusart3mis, yea I can figure out the calculation, it just would be nice to have on the tooltip
18:32.57Barbanusright now I just swap gear, and look in my char pane
18:33.01art3miswell it kind of varies
18:33.07Barbanusand it varies by spec
18:33.11art3misfrom class to cals and spirit amoutn to spirit amount
18:33.13Barbanusfor regen out of and inside of casting
18:33.27nevcairiel(except that 6mp5 works in combat, and 15 spi is about 1 or 2 in combat, with 15% skilled )
18:33.37art3misnods nev
18:33.42Barbanusnevcairiel, yea exactly
18:33.59BarbanusI'd love to have all of those numbers on the tooltip tho
18:34.05art3misbut with IDS on my priest im taking the +15spirit ;P
18:34.14nevcairielhehe
18:34.32nevcairieli am a druid, my tree aura gets stronger by spirit .. but still .. i prefer mp5
18:34.55art3misyeah i have shadow fiend so i's not that big a concern for me
18:35.06art3misi think since tbc came out ive run out mana in a instance fight once
18:35.07Barbanusheh for a paladin its all about the mp5
18:35.09Barbanusand crit
18:35.16art3miscourse i was second on dps during that ;P
18:35.20nevcairielheh
18:35.38art3misoh btw
18:35.42art3mismetamap sucks crap
18:35.58art3misfor however was asking about the new one yesterday
18:36.04Barbanusthere is a calculation for "healing points" someone devised, it works rather well, differs by class, that would be cool to have stuck in a mod (if it isnt already)
18:36.04art3miserr whoever
18:36.31CIA-1803uruloke * r29893 10ArcHUD2/ (Core.lua Frames.lua Nameplates.lua):
18:36.31CIA-18ArcHUD2:
18:36.31CIA-18* Fixed bug with player and pet nameplates
18:36.31CIA-18* Added resting indicator to player nameplate
18:36.42kergothhttp://code.google.com/p/cab/ that could be useful for wowace.com
18:36.50kergothBarbanus: you mean like the HealPoints addon?
18:36.59kergoth:)
18:36.59Barbanuskergoth, hehe, I guess I do!
18:37.03MoonWolfhmmm
18:37.12MoonWolfinteresting thingy kergoth
18:37.25kergothlooks simple, you can download the snippets, has tagging..
18:37.36CIA-1803elkano * r29894 10SharedMediaLib/ (SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua SharedMediaLib.toc):
18:37.36CIA-18.SharedMedia-1.0
18:37.36CIA-18- fixed some things so it now should actually work ^^'
18:37.43kergothyay work
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18:39.59art3mishrm appearantly alphamap and all the author;s other addons have been orphaned
18:40.02art3mishe quit wow
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18:40.34Industrial--^
18:41.11Industrialbtw i put my addons on gcode http://code.google.com/p/industrial-wow/
18:41.33art3mishttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4497-Yatlas.html
18:41.37art3misthat is cool
18:42.15Industrialeh its been around for like a year
18:42.31art3mishttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5797-420compass.html
18:42.34art3misthats kinna neat too
18:42.37Industrialsomeone should add that to carto
18:42.43art3misyeah i havent checked map mods in a LONG time
18:42.50art3misbut carts been irritating me lately
18:45.19Industrialwhy
18:45.38art3misit seems rather bloaty
18:46.08art3misand for some reason wau doesnt display it as a package in win2k like it does in xp so i constantly have to move fodlers when i update it
18:46.38art3misand the mining nodes thing on the map bugs me since its impossible to tell whats what in a cluster if you're out of range
18:46.43Industrialwell ck doenst want to remove the moduled and ship them separately
18:46.47art3mis(those stupid circles)
18:47.33art3misin xp it lists cart as a package... meaning you can get it all at once with no issues, in win2k it doesnt show it like that so you update each aprt of it
18:47.55art3miswhich results (most of the time) in at least 2 plugins ending up in the cart dir and needing to be moved outside it
18:48.04art3misits a wau thing on that  side of it ;P
18:48.10art3misnothing to do with the addon itself
18:48.12Industrialheres my view:
18:48.25Industrialall modules should be separate addons on the svn and in wau
18:48.27Industrialthe end.
18:48.42Industriali dont want half of it and it updates everything
18:48.49kergothif you dont like all of its modules, remove the modules you dont want and stop complaining.  if your complaint is about wau, dont blame cart for it
18:49.04art3mismy wau comp[laint is one part
18:49.11Industrialwell i do, i think its getting too big
18:49.12art3misthe other part of it is totally cart and ingame ;P
18:49.37art3misall i want from cart is instance maps/loot, mining tracking and waypoint
18:49.47art3mishowever it seems to like getting all the other parts constantly
18:49.56art3misshrug
18:50.14art3misthe purple circle display is starting to bug me
18:50.48art3miswhy would i need a 3 pixel radius to tell me where X node is thats located at a single pixel?
18:50.51art3mispixle?
18:50.56art3misno pixel
18:50.58BarbanusI wish cart could show positions inside of instances
18:51.09art3misyeah thast a bit less easy ;)
18:51.11kenlyricart3mis: because you can get that node from a radius around the node.
18:51.28kenlyricart3mis: if there's no range, each time you pick from a different side of the node, it will show as a different node.
18:51.33art3misbut who cares where you can get it from when its located there ;P
18:51.50kenlyricart3mis: because you don't want 4 mapnotes for 1 node.
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18:52.03Loki|muhgna, the english goldspam is gone thanks to scm, but the german goldspam continues :(
18:52.03art3misthen thats an addon problem ;P
18:52.06kenlyricgatherer does the exact same thing, and it's sensible.
18:52.23art3mishow is it sensible?
18:52.34kenlyricunless you stand on top of the node every time, which is not always sensible
18:52.41art3misso yeah
18:52.46art3misthose are my issues with cart ;P
18:52.58art3misit's going the way of prat without making itself modular
18:53.26Industrialbtw kergoth why do i have to stop complaining? I tihnk theres something wrong with it.
18:53.32art3misi mean sure it functions modular, but if i only want say waypoints im kinna hooped
18:53.47art3misnow onto a compeltely unrelated note
18:53.54art3miswhats some other timer projects?
18:54.00art3mislike sorren, chrono etc
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18:56.05Industrialct_buffmod? :p
18:57.12art3miswell was browsing interfaces, and i luike the way sorrens breaks things up and lets you  created custom groups
18:57.23art3misbut i dont like it's limitations
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18:58.14art3mishttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=4043
18:58.30art3misthats kind of ui cleanliness handy
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19:16.16art3miswhat was that addon that puts an overlay grid on the screen for lining up things?
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19:17.16Gamefaqhiho
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19:20.12Gamefaqcan someone take a look into this who supports Talismonger-3.0 http://ace.pastey.net/8085
19:21.44hyperChipmunkhm
19:23.05kergothart3mis: how exactly is cart not modular?
19:23.09hyperChipmunkwhen did it happen?
19:27.22Gamefaqafter logging into game
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19:29.27hyperChipmunkwhat client?
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19:30.14art3miskergoth: let's just say it's mot modular enough for my tastes and leave it at that ;P
19:30.25AmadeoYou guys know any free leveling guides that are pretty good? I'm absolutely horrible at leveling up
19:30.50kergothart3mis: naturally, the refuge of someone with no valid points to make.
19:31.02CyrezAmadeo: What level are you ATM?
19:31.06Amadeo22
19:31.09AmadeoRogue - Horde
19:31.23AmadeoI have a few 60's and such, I just level really slow
19:31.29AmadeoI'd like to level fast for once
19:31.38hyperChipmunklol, that's a good answer; definitely will influence development
19:33.00CyrezI just run around killing stuff at that level.
19:33.25CyrezThe quest XP starts not being as worth it as it used to be.
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19:33.47CyrezSo you wanna focus on the quests that tell you to kill X number of whatever mob.
19:34.17art3misthe refuge of someone with no valid points?
19:34.18CyrezAnd make sure you're getting rested whenever you're not doing anything.
19:34.40AmadeoYeah...I do that as it is :)
19:34.47Cyrez:)
19:35.14ckknightvhaarr: possibly, they'd need to somehow overwrite the onenter/onleave for tablet and the right-click for dewdrop
19:36.02CyrezThen after 30 or so start grouping a lot and pounding out instances. But when you go in make sure you have all or most of the quests available for that instance, so when you're done you can turn all of them in at once.
19:36.10art3miswell alright it's not modular in the sense that it's got huge over head just to function, it's not properly package for any OS thats not XP, it requires me to constantly get rid of manually parts of it that i dont want at EVERY update, the map icons are poorly done and a monstrous irritation when you move in range, it's overkill for what *I* want and need
19:36.16CyrezAfter that, I dunno. My strongest toon is 33. ><
19:37.11art3misof course your little self inflating comment merely makes me believe that you're not capable of taking criticism and believe that everyone should have tastes that match your own without the slightest concept of "*I* don't like it"
19:37.26hyperChipmunkyou didn't give criticism
19:37.39art3misyes actually i did
19:37.40hyperChipmunkthere's an option to turn off minimap icons i think
19:37.43art3misin about 15 lines
19:37.52art3misexactly what i dont like about it
19:37.59hyperChipmunkyea, but the first time you didn't
19:38.06art3misscroll up ;)
19:38.08hyperChipmunkhow do you update?
19:38.12art3miswau
19:38.15art3misin win2k
19:38.28art3miswhich isnt the same as wau in xp
19:38.38hyperChipmunkhow is that different?
19:38.40art3mis(noticed this when i isntalled it at work)
19:38.46art3misyer in xp right now right?
19:38.51hyperChipmunklinux
19:38.56art3miswine?
19:39.05hyperChipmunkyea, but i use svn
19:39.06art3mishrm okay ill try and explain the interface look then
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19:39.25art3misin xp it breaks the addos into "sections"
19:39.40art3mislike packages, installed not installed
19:39.43art3misthat kind of thing
19:39.52vhaarrckknight: alright
19:40.10ckknightwhich would be complex all in all
19:40.13ckknightI'll think about it
19:40.31art3misnow in xp the cart pacakge grabs the main cart drop. in 2k it doesnt do this breakage, and i tries to download based on directories in yer addons folder
19:40.41art3misit tries
19:40.56hyperChipmunki see in babblelib, there's a .bat file for updating; is that part of WAU? maybe you can edit that to handle it, or create one
19:41.02art3misbecause of this it tends to drop "some" modules from time to time iside the main cart folder
19:41.16art3misinside
19:41.22hyperChipmunki.e. does it let you run a .bat file in the addon dir after it updates?
19:41.43art3misit also proceeds to download parst of cart i dont have installed and need to remove yet again.
19:41.52art3misumm lemme check
19:42.05art3misi dont think its part of wau but im not entirely sure
19:42.07CyrezWin2K FTW. ^^
19:42.12hyperChipmunkwould seem a sensible thing, to allow a userscript to run
19:42.30art3mis2k is stabler, runs wow better and i use it for more things than just wow so... ;)
19:42.31CIA-1803funkydude * r29896 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua:
19:42.31CIA-18BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane:
19:42.31CIA-18- whisper option for rain of bones
19:42.31CIA-18- little more efficient on resetting locals
19:43.47Archarodim|zZzzZWin XP is better than 2k as long as you have good hardware and good drivers
19:43.51art3misbut either way, in my opinion, cart should be ONLY the main part, map related(none of the addons or trackers) wioth the ability to select ONLY the aprts of it you want without having to get the entire project and remove the crap you dont want every time you update
19:44.03art3misnot really arch
19:44.07Cyrez^
19:44.22art3misits apersonal taste thing though so lets not get into that ;P
19:44.31CyrezNot when it eats up a quarter of your memory just by running. ><
19:44.49Archarodim|zZzzZyeah maybe^^ but my computer never crashes hehe
19:44.59art3miscyrez, drop bb4win as yer shell into 2k and it's perty ;P
19:45.06art3mismine never does either
19:45.11Cyrez^
19:45.12hyperChipmunkyea, judging by the past activity of the main Cartographer dir, it would appear that there's been some back-and-forth on that issue
19:45.19CyrezOoo, thanks, I'll look into that.
19:45.21hyperChipmunkpeople will complain either way
19:45.23art3misi havent had a lockup or forced reboot in 2k in a long time
19:45.51BarbanusSystem Up Time: 22 Days, 8 Hours, 32 Minutes, 51 Seconds
19:45.55Barbanuswindows xp, heh
19:46.02CyrezI had a computer up for over half a year with Win2K and the only reason it went down is because the power in the building was shut off.
19:46.04Archarodim|zZzzZNo one should ever install vista though...
19:46.16art3misnope that we ALL agree on ;P
19:46.40art3misvista is like the autisic cousin
19:46.59art3misits fun to have around as novelty but eventually you wanna put it i a sack and throw it into the river
19:47.02CyrezPart of the reason was because IE had been intentionally crippled. ^^
19:47.14CyrezFirefox for the pwnage.
19:47.31art3mishehe i miss 1.5 firefox
19:47.34hyperChipmunkand as for the minimap clutter, you're always welcome to add an option to turn it off; i know there's been discussion recently about it, so someone may already be doing it
19:47.37art3mis2.0 behaves oddly
19:48.23art3mishyperChipmunk: my cart argument is almos exactly the same as the prat one ;P
19:48.36art3miswhich is why i scampered away from prat
19:48.57art3misoh but in my search i did find a rad addon called mobmap
19:49.04art3missort of an ingame thottbot
19:49.10art3misfor finding mobs n stuff
19:50.53CyrezFor mobs and stuff I use WoWKB since it's compatible with Cart.
19:51.03CyrezAnd the search function is pretty nice.
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20:00.06art3mismobmap works with cart too
20:00.24art3misits actually pretty nice, has recipes and who sells em, quest looks mob look ups
20:00.39art3misthe only thing it's missing that i'd like is a "rare location finder"
20:00.54art3misbut if ya know the name of the mob itll tell you exactly where it is
20:03.20xyuwhere can i get that?  any of the ui siteS?
20:04.46Cyrezhttp://www.mobmap.de/
20:04.57xyuthx.  downloading now :)
20:08.20xyuhm campfires can proc my reckoning :D
20:10.18art3misits tres coolio
20:10.23art3mishaha
20:10.31art3misi had food proc my blue dragon card
20:10.37art3misthat was kind of wierd
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20:25.30art3misi think i need a custom addon made.. oen that would create a subguild for say enchanters, with thier own private and public channel as well as a "guild board" of sorts to set and list pricing for chants
20:25.48chuckgart3mis, clicking on off herb/mine fniding used to proc the blue dragon card.
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20:35.35CIA-18Waterfall-1.0:
20:35.35CIA-18- New control type, LinkLabel. Labels support r,g,b args for color. thanks markf for the patch
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20:43.11CIA-18Babble-2.2:
20:43.11CIA-18- Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: updated deDE locals for Scarlet Monastery
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20:56.12Industrialanyonw else have trouble with stumbleupon
20:56.14Industrial?
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21:42.18Arrowmasterdoes anybody know if the goblin rocket launcher used to not be goblin only?
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21:58.56UhuruHi
21:59.17UhuruI got many babble errors since the last update and dorjehealingbars don't work
21:59.41GagorianI can check
22:00.34UhuruFrfr client
22:02.24GagorianWell, no errors for me at least.
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22:03.51Uhurumaybe cause you don't have a frFR client
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22:05.11Uhurui got errors for cartographer, chronometer, closetgnome and dorjehealingbars
22:05.16Uhuruckknight ?
22:05.31ckknightdown with frenchies
22:05.41Uhuruchronometer don't works too
22:06.24GagorianYou got the error message?
22:06.48Uhuruyes you need them ?
22:07.01Uhurui got 19 error messages ...
22:07.17GagorianWell, yes, it's helpful
22:08.47Uhuruhow can i copy all errors in the bugsack ?
22:11.54Uhuruhttp://naxxalite.free.fr/errors.txt
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22:13.17ArcharodimSanctified Crusader has not been commented for the French locals...
22:14.27ArcharodimI can commit the change if you want
22:14.36Uhurui just want to get chronometer and dorjehealingbars work ;)
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22:14.58GagorianShould work now anyway
22:15.00Archarodimwell it should work now^^
22:16.30Uhurui use externals
22:16.42Uhuruit won't update babble :/
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22:18.09Archarodimif you use the zip files you have to wait before the bot update them, the zip files are updated every 20 minutes
22:22.09Archarodimelse you can fix the external yourself, search for the line ["Sanctity Aura"] = true, then uncomment the line just after this one
22:22.28Archarodimin the file Babble-Spell-2.2.lua
22:29.47AntiarcCompletely un-WoW related, but...
22:29.53Antiarchttp://youtube.com/watch?v=zikCD7vyxC0
22:29.54Antiarc:D
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22:44.58break19kinda quiet
22:46.41nymbiapurl, yell at break19
22:47.21nymbia.. either i fail or purl does.  or both
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23:25.35AmadeoI wish WAU worked without the .xml and .txt clutter
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23:31.42Stephmwdoes rabbit come on IRC at all?
23:31.53nevcairielvhaarr is rabbit
23:32.21vhaarrpong
23:32.31snurre-was about to say mew, but im not sure thats what rabbits say
23:34.32Stephmwahhh
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23:34.48Stephmwvhaarr: thanks for working on closetgnome :)
23:34.58Stephmwvhaarr: been giving it a whirl today
23:35.25vhaarrStephmw: yw
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23:38.26Grollbah it sucks to be in a casuall guild not goign anywhere but with irl buddys and then go into the discussion of migrating to a new more populated server
23:38.27Groll:/
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23:53.19CIA-1803aileen * r29902 10FuBar_FarmerFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
23:53.19CIA-18FuBar_FarmerFu:
23:53.19CIA-18- Removed a bunch of menu options. Use the clickable tooltip now.
23:53.19CIA-18- Added bank (and total) tracking.
23:53.20CIA-18- Hopefully cut down on memory usage by recycling tables (thanks elkano/FactionsFu) and ignoring hunter ammo bags unless someone is specifically tracking ammo for some reason.
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23:56.47CIA-1803nymbia * r29903 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
23:56.47CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
23:56.47CIA-18- Complete LoD module stuff.
23:56.47CIA-18- NOTE: Rep.Reward sets were renamed to Reputation.Reward to match their module's name.
23:56.47CIA-18- Bugfix in the cache metamethod.
23:57.55CIA-1803nymbia * r29904 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
23:57.55CIA-18GrindStatus:
23:57.55CIA-18- PT setname Rep -> Reputation

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