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00:04.55CIA-1803ominous * r29783 10OminousCastingBar/Core.lua: OminousCastingBar: fixed various chaneling problems such as filliung wrong way on hit and wrong color
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00:07.32WobWor1damnit
00:07.44WobWor1Does anyone have that 300 animated 'red sauce on pasta' gif?
00:08.56vid`ooo
00:08.58vid`new casting bar?
00:08.58vid`:P
00:09.12haste<PROTECTED>
00:09.22hastes/  //
00:09.32snurreyay, omin fixed channeling <3
00:09.55nevcairielmy poor account was compromised :o(
00:10.07nevcairieland the only thing they stole, was a stack of primal water and primal air
00:10.19ckknightI don't understand how you people get your accounts compromised
00:10.25nevcairieli have no idea
00:10.27nevcairielactually
00:10.31nevcairielnoone knows the password
00:10.47hastetime to scan your computer for key loggers?
00:10.53snurresomeone obviously does :p
00:11.03nevcairieli run teh latest antivir
00:11.07snurreit doesnt hack itself :p
00:11.38nevcairielonly one other person knows the password, and i trust her with my life.
00:11.40snurre1) you were keylogged  2) you misplaced the primals yourself
00:11.45nevcairielnah
00:11.51snurre3) your trusted friend misplaced them
00:11.53nevcairielthe GM told me, that they were send my mail
00:11.57snurrenothing else couldve happened
00:12.09nevcairielin a time frame, when i was at university
00:12.18hasteIt was the trusted one!
00:12.30snurrewell, *someone* mailed them
00:12.37nevcairieli guess :P
00:12.49nevcairielthey locked my account and send me a standard mail to check if its really my account
00:13.07snurrestandard procedures when you report possible unauthorized access
00:13.11nevcairielyea
00:14.09vid`anyone know of a mod that moves the world pvp objective frame?
00:14.24nevcairieloh well runnign a full system virus scan
00:14.26nevcairielwont hurt me.
00:14.28vid`i changed my res and its been off centered
00:14.32vid`driving me nuts
00:14.36snurrecheck running processes
00:15.00nevcairielit should have an active OnAccess scan tho.
00:15.10nevcairielunless that wowhead reader send my password away.
00:15.24vid`i use it everyday
00:15.26vid`never had a prob
00:15.27snurrenot that ive heard of
00:15.48vid`av's wont always pick up rootkits either
00:15.54snurreoh ffs, mirc refuses to recognize firefox as my standard browser, so i have to copy urls :(
00:16.45Grollsnurre mine is the other way around :P
00:16.55nevcairieli would have no idea where i couldve gotten any trojan or keylogger, plus i am behind a router and firewall.
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00:17.18nevcairieland why only take two stacks primals?
00:17.20nevcairieli dont get it.
00:18.21CIA-1803ag * r29784 10Violation/ (Violation.lua Violation.toc modules/groupTotalDamage.lua): Violation: Added group total damage module
00:18.49snurreif you were keylogged they wouldve sold all your equip and mailed off the most valuable things
00:19.07snurreso you werent imo
00:19.16snurresomeone just misplaced the primals i bet
00:20.06nevcairielas i said, only one person knows the password, and she said that she did not login for ages. and i believe every word.
00:20.42snurrethen im willing to bet you did it without remembering :p
00:20.49snurreit happens *so* often
00:20.58nevcairielthe GM told me when the primals where send away
00:21.06nevcairieli was at university, writing an exam.
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00:21.43snurreim really surprised the GM gave you that much info
00:22.11snurrenot supposed to give out that info
00:22.30vhaarrheh, big deal
00:22.30nevcairielhe didnt want to tell me where the primals where send tho
00:22.42nevcairieli might have known if it was someone i know
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00:24.30nevcairieloh well, i hope they hurry with unlocking me again :P
00:24.55Pneuexpect ~4 weeks if your EU
00:25.10nevcairielthat would kill me
00:25.11snurrenah
00:25.13snurredoesnt take that long
00:25.17snurre1-2 days atm
00:25.25nevcairieli already answered their mail
00:25.30nevcairielhoping for quick work :P
00:25.33Pneuwell, a couple weeks ago they were running at ~4 weeks
00:25.52snurretheyre not now
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00:36.10CIA-1803sayclub * r29785 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua:
00:36.10CIA-18AutoBar:
00:36.10CIA-18- Update locale koKR
00:37.33ag`nevcairiel: why only take two stack primals? To make it seem you forgot about them yourself, so they can log in later and take more primals :P
00:38.00knarf^I bet it was a holy priest who took 'em
00:38.05Chompersif he wasnt paranoid before, he is now
00:38.06knarf^farming is a bitch ^^
00:38.10Chompersyay for ag :D
00:39.44[dRaCo]hey ag`, I had a weird bug with aguf's raid frames today
00:40.14[dRaCo]some weird orange bar appeared... couldnt move it
00:40.35[dRaCo]but after hiding/unhiding the energy bars it was gone
00:40.55[dRaCo]I suppose it was a pet energy bar...
00:42.42[dRaCo]brb
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00:49.14hasteoh god, now I've done it!
00:49.20hastePlaying WoW with a DDR pad
00:49.41Kirkburnwow
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00:49.43snurre-lol
00:49.46snurre-i just had a bluescreen
00:50.00snurre-first in.. like 5 years
00:50.32hasteI can actually "play" with is
00:50.48Kirkburnhaste, did you just use a DDR pad to hack snurre?
00:51.16hasteas in: move (backward, forward, left, right), mutilate, sinister, cheap shot / kidney shot, eviscrate and gouge!
00:52.03knarf^A Dance Dance Revolution Pad `?
00:52.12kon_sounds healthy
00:52.47knarf^gl healing with a ddr pad :P
00:52.50pastamancerhaste: quick, alert 4chan
00:52.58hastehahaha
00:53.30hasteknarf^: you could do it in theory, just bind the different unused pads to heals on units
00:53.36hastewould suck in raids tho' ^^
00:53.42knarf^hehe
00:53.43knarf^:P
00:53.56knarf^a 25 squared ddr pad
00:53.57knarf^!!
00:54.14snurre-DDR pad + grid?
00:54.25pastamancersounds more like a twister mat
00:54.28hastemoving the mouse is possible :p
00:54.35knarf^lies
00:54.38snurre-thats cheating
00:54.38knarf^abuse of mouse!
00:54.46hasteat least under Linux :p
00:54.53hastenot sure if you can remap the key events in windows
00:54.59hastewithout WoW going emo on you that is
00:55.19pastamanceryou'd have to setup state headers that let you pick group -> unit -> heal
00:55.28pastamancerthen it would just be a bunch of triplets
00:55.44hasteyou could bind one of the pads to shift also
00:55.58hasteI should make a PvP movie like this
00:56.43knarf^remember to show pieces of papers with high numbers on it
00:56.44knarf^:>
00:57.13hasteguildy made a heigan movie with DDR arrows in it :p
00:59.33knarf^I should make my deadth mod at some point before someone else makes it the same time as me :P
00:59.52knarf^death*
00:59.57hastedeath mod :p ?
01:00.13knarf^i'm gonna call it "hthdid"
01:00.22knarf^aka How the hell did I die"
01:00.53CIA-1803sayclub * r29786 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua:
01:00.53CIA-18Grid:
01:00.53CIA-18- Update locale koKR
01:01.37knarf^thinking of cacheing the last 50 combat log messages and then summarize them when you die, or something like that :)
01:02.22CIA-1803uruloke * r29787 10ArcHUD2/ (6 files):
01:02.22CIA-18ArcHUD2:
01:02.22CIA-18* Rewritten frame creation, XML file is no more
01:02.22CIA-18* Separated nameplates from the rest of the code
01:02.22CIA-18* Added separate on/off for nameplates
01:02.23CIA-18* Added option to automatically enable nameplates when entering combat no matter their previous state
01:02.55knarf^haste think it would be usefull for PvE atleast? :>
01:03.12hasteit will be 'usefull' :p
01:03.19knarf^hehe :P
01:03.23hasteI have a tendency to die in wierd places while I code
01:03.28hastelike... in RFC *cough*
01:03.32knarf^haha :p
01:03.57knarf^I plan to add in "PWNED" if you get 1 hit :P
01:03.59hasteI almost did it again today actually
01:04.06hastethe mobs respawned :(
01:04.20knarf^I farmed RFC on my mage efor linnen once :>
01:04.30knarf^Fell into the lava ^^
01:04.46hastehehe
01:05.20knarf^is there a better way to summarize the last x events other that parsing the combat log ?
01:05.22vid`hmmm
01:05.25vid`with that new casting bar
01:05.29vid`there a way to open a test bar so i can position it?
01:05.32vid`since the bar isnt draggable
01:05.41vid`or do i gotta keep spamming a spell and drag it around :P
01:05.44hastecheck if it has a wowace thread
01:05.54vid`not yet
01:06.00vid`think its new :P
01:06.07hasteOmnious or something right?
01:06.10vid`yea
01:06.14hasteIt's not really 'new'
01:06.17vid`it seems identical to yours
01:06.22vid`just with a waterfall config
01:06.51hastemine doesn't use CandyBars to spawn a bar tho'
01:06.51knarf^whats this new waterfall thing, it looks fancy :>
01:07.02vid`gui config lib i think
01:07.05vid`oh yea haste true
01:07.07snurre-vid`: use the waterfall config
01:07.11hasteand I'm not using Ace or any of it's libs anymore either now
01:07.16snurre-but yeah
01:07.19hasteand rehauliing all my addons
01:07.21snurre-doesnt have a dummy bar
01:07.23hastewhich is rather time taking :(
01:08.27knarf^haste why not use ace ? :)
01:08.50hasteIt provides a lot more then I want
01:09.04hasteand I dislike having to include XX number of libraries for a single mod
01:09.18hasteand the fact that I have to disembeed
01:09.33knarf^the disembeed part is retardet too imho :P
01:09.47hasteIt's mostly due to the number of libs
01:09.53knarf^but I like the libs including, but i'm programming in C# daily too :>
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01:10.08hastethey all have to be compiled, which makes it use ages to load
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01:10.37knarf^my load time sucks peen, got 252 addons installed^^ :>
01:10.47hasteouch
01:10.55hasteI think mine sucks... and I have ~30
01:11.05knarf^Got an old computer too :P
01:11.06hasteand I'm running mostly my own or tek's
01:11.15knarf^i'm running all sorts
01:11.17knarf^:)
01:11.36knarf^Maybe I should clean them up at some point :P
01:12.11knarf^A lot of the folders is libs though
01:12.37hasteI stopped disembeeding
01:12.46hasteonly ace2 addons I run are BigWigs and oRA2
01:13.10knarf^i'm not sure wich of my addons aint ace2 :P
01:13.22snurre-not even cartographer?
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01:13.41hasteI dislike Cartographer
01:13.48snurre-<3 it
01:13.56knarf^well the big green text saying ace2 might give it away :P
01:14.01knarf^I like Cartographer too
01:14.02knarf^:)
01:14.14knarf^but i'm not a lean mean lua machine , so ^^
01:15.08knarf^i'm running LoD on a lot of my addons too :>
01:16.16knarf^Got a bunch of fubar mods :>
01:16.16hasteI'm looking forward to 2.1.0, due to the LoD system
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01:16.55knarf^Christ I got a lot of Ace2 mods :>
01:17.06MedlirI have 160 folers in mya ddons folder, 13 are Blizzard, 23 are Cartographer, 14 ar Fubar
01:17.22MedlirI'd say 2/3 Ace2
01:18.35knarf^All theese addons I got, and tbh I use them all
01:18.36knarf^:>
01:18.56knarf^Not sure about the libs though
01:20.00snurre-ludwig, klhtm, swstats, msbt are the non-ace2 addons i have
01:20.04snurre-out of 161 folders :p
01:20.13knarf^I use MSBT too
01:20.16knarf^I like it
01:20.26knarf^got klhtm and swstats too
01:20.32knarf^what the hell is ludwig?
01:20.41snurre-itemlink thingy
01:20.41Pneuatsw and spellalert_sct are the only ones of mine not ace2
01:20.53knarf^I got ATSW installed too
01:21.02knarf^and uhm
01:21.22Pneuoh and i have FocusFrame
01:21.29knarf^Group Calendar, and GuildAds
01:21.30knarf^:>
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01:23.38knarf^Oh well I better get to bed
01:23.46knarf^else i'm gonna stay up the entire night
01:23.55Loki|muhsame here
01:23.57Loki|muhgn8
01:24.06knarf^g'nite
01:24.12ckknightgnate?
01:24.28Loki|muhsorry
01:24.57Loki|muhin germany night = nacht and 8 = acht
01:25.05knarf^gneight tbh
01:25.15Loki|muhg'nite ;)
01:25.48eternally777Any plans for an "Ace3"?
01:25.56eternally777And does it have a cool codename yet?
01:26.20snurre-ace2 shouldve been deuce, then ace3 trice
01:26.28vhaarrWhy, is the current one broken?
01:26.32JJSheetslol
01:26.53Kinkx^I'm using Ace5 baby, my UI is just f'ing crazy now yo!
01:27.10hasteyes, Ace5 makes your UI awesome, and not the mods that use it
01:27.25eternally777Broken?  No, I think it's working as intended.  But some people say it's... "not scaling well" with the popularity it has received.
01:27.30Kinkx^Ace5 - "Making your UI awesome"
01:27.32eternally777I was just wondering.
01:28.06Kinkx^It's different, haste, you wouldn't know.. you haven't tried it ;P
01:28.17haarmit seems to scale much better with disembedding
01:28.37haarmdepends what you mean by scaling i guess :P
01:29.13ckknighteternally777: why would we make Ace3?
01:29.21ckknightI don't think Ace2 is broken...
01:29.33ckknightand if it is, we'll just keep releasing revisions of Ace2
01:29.40eternally777As I said, I don't think it's broken.
01:29.44ckknightthat's why we have AceHook-2.1 and AceLocale-2.2
01:29.54CIA-1803rabbit * r29788 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Fixed problems with setting mount set names to "".
01:29.55KirkburnPeople always want new stuff
01:29.58ckknightthe former ones were broken in their own ways
01:30.07KirkburnEven when the current stuff is pretty much does everything it should
01:30.16ckknightyep...
01:30.16Kirkburns/is//
01:30.36KirkburnI obsessively use WAU, so I part of that crowd I guess ^^
01:30.43ag`some people have been going "oh zomg Ace2 is too huge, Ace3 blabla dongle blabla ckknight cladhaire"
01:30.48KirkburnGod, can't I type anything right today
01:30.55ckknightwhoever those people are can go fuck themselves
01:30.57ckknight:-)
01:30.58haarmtoo huge?
01:31.28ckknighthaarm: theoretically, there are things that could be taken out of Ace2
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01:31.34ckknightstuff no one uses
01:31.44vhaarrAnd stuff could be taken out that people do use.
01:31.51ckknightsuch as?
01:31.53haarmbuuut, that would probably break some archaic addon from wayback :)
01:31.56Tullerthere's going to be so many performance arguments once we have the profiling tools available to us :)
01:31.57ckknightdon't say my big brotherisms
01:32.02vhaarr;)
01:32.10vhaarrThat, and the loot opened comm.
01:32.11ckknightTuller: Ace2 is pretty efficient as it stands
01:32.12vhaarrFor example.
01:32.22ckknightvhaarr: that was Tekkub's doing
01:32.25ckknightnot sure what uses that.
01:32.25vhaarrckknight: I don't want it out.
01:32.26vhaarrI know.
01:32.32ckknightno, I'd rather have it in.
01:32.39vhaarrckknight: I'm just saying it could be removed.
01:32.42ckknightnot like it causes any big problems
01:32.59vhaarreternally777: not really
01:32.59ckknightone thing I would want to remove is AceEvent:ScheduleEvent("eventName")
01:33.01ckknightno one uses it.
01:33.11ckknightI just put it in for justification
01:33.32haarmhey, you could releace Ace-Lite .. as an empty folder, totally efficient, without all the bulk of regular Ace2
01:33.37vhaarrI'm not sure what you mean; the ability to give scheduled events IDs ?
01:33.38JJSheetslol
01:33.38Kirkburnlol
01:34.05ckknightAceEvent:ScheduleEvent("eventName", 5) fires an event called "eventName" every 5 seconds, vhaarr
01:34.07vhaarrckknight: Or firing events?
01:34.08vhaarraha
01:34.18ckknightthere's no good reason for that and you know it :-P
01:34.19vhaarrIndeed, I have never used that.
01:34.22vhaarrye
01:34.32ckknightmaybe I can retcon it to fire a method...
01:34.40ckknightthat'd take some careful maneuvering, though.
01:34.48ag`retcon :D
01:34.49vhaarrhehe
01:35.00vhaarrWell, who knows, maybe TankRatings it!
01:35.02vhaarror whatever it's called
01:35.10ckknightwhatever
01:35.14ckknightnot like it's too bad
01:35.14vhaarr:P
01:35.24ckknightI wonder if I can make anything more efficient...
01:35.28vhaarrprobably
01:35.34kergoth<3 statstain
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01:35.57haarmI'm sure you could do something with Cartographer
01:36.05nymbiakergoth: :D
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01:36.22ckknightone thing I do want to take out is actually AceLibrary:assert
01:36.29kergothnymbia: i was quite skeptical about it at first, but its grown on me :)
01:36.31ckknightit's inefficient compared to an if statement and an error
01:36.32fatbrainUsing Baggins, what's the default rule for "Tradeskills Mats"? I accidently removed it :(
01:36.39haarmwhich btw, I have a couple of gripes with, 1) sometimes when picking flowers it doesn't put pink circles on my map, and 2) broadcasting notes to guild/players doeson't work
01:36.42ag`make a copy of Ace2 and call it Jingle, everybody will think Jingle is much cooler because Jingle doesn't have any flaming fanboys (yet)
01:36.49vhaarrckknight: I can remove it and reload UI here, see what happens.
01:36.56vhaarrckknight: I use pretty much all the libraries.
01:37.03nymbiakergoth: yeah.  so was i actually.. it started as something completely different ;)
01:37.03ckknightalright
01:37.05ckknighttry it out
01:37.11kergothhehe
01:37.13ckknightI was planning on grepping trunk
01:38.32vhaarrI guess a \:assert grep would do it
01:38.32Kirkburnckknight, can I make a request regarding your ClearFont2 code?
01:38.38ckknightum, k?
01:38.42ckknightit's your addon
01:38.56haarmyou know what could be useful, not sure where it would be implemented (probably in WAU) but being able to get a list of the svn:externals that mods use, so you can just get the standalone libraries
01:38.57KirkburnIt's your code :P I'll link you the stuff, sec
01:39.15Kirkburnhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3513.msg87014#msg87014
01:39.26haarmsearching through all the toc files is a pain in the arse for that
01:40.10KirkburnI think it's about the addon override code - I don't think it's working correctely
01:40.52vhaarrckknight: FBP-2.0 and Gratuity, basically.
01:40.59ckknightand Dewdrop
01:41.05vhaarrright
01:41.07vhaarrnoticed that now
01:41.20hasteSo i herd u liek mudkips
01:41.31ckknightgoing through em all
01:41.40KirkburnCkk, so any help you can give is really appreciated. You know my coding skills aren't exactly ... uh ... existent ;)
01:41.47vhaarrckknight: What's wrong with just using the global assert function?
01:42.11ckknightvhaarr: well, for one, it's an extra function call, for two, it fires inside the library instead of above it
01:42.46vhaarrtrue, I guess there's a small overhead there
01:50.37sergiois there an ETA for 2.1
01:50.46sergioor just whenever it's done
01:51.11ckknight2.1 what?
01:51.48sergiowow bc
01:52.02snurre-no eta for 2.1.0 yet
01:52.06ckknightnone that I know of
01:52.09sergioi want some of the stupid macro stuff now :|
01:52.16sergioit would make my raiding life easier
01:53.22hastesnurre-: I demand that you notify me when the PTR is avaible!
01:53.28snurre-i probably wont know before you
01:53.37hastehehe
01:54.19CIA-1803fenlis * r29789 10ArcHUD2/Locale_koKR.lua: ArcHUD2 : Updated localization koKR
01:56.44CIA-1803ckknight * r29790 10Metrognome/Metrognome-2.0/Metrognome-2.0.lua: Metrognome-2.0 - fixed :assert
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01:57.02CIA-1803ckknight * r29791 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - fixed :assert
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02:00.51CIA-1803ckknight * r29794 10GratuityLib/Gratuity-2.0/Gratuity-2.0.lua: .Gratuity-2.0 - fixed :assert
02:01.21CIA-1803ckknight * r29795 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - fixed :asserts
02:01.38ag`so did someone drycode something to take advantage of the fancy profiling stuff in 2.1.0?
02:01.48ag`I know I didn't, I am lazy
02:02.00ckknightalright, that taken care of
02:02.07ckknightI'm gonna remove assert for WoW 2.2
02:02.12ckknightthat should be long enough, I think
02:02.24ckknightquite a few months
02:02.42haarmckknight, fix note sharing in Cartographer please :) and that bug where it doesn't remember nodes sometimes
02:02.49ckknightYou do it!
02:02.58ckknightI haven't touched that for a while
02:03.06ckknightit worked the last time I touched it
02:03.11haarmbugsack is reporting an error for the notes module too
02:03.28ag`reveeert
02:03.31haarmI would do it, but I have to play Soldat
02:05.54haarmfeature request: bulk note sharing
02:06.15haarmand the error is: [2007/03/09 02:04:01-570-x1]: Cartographer_Vendors\addon.lua:396: attempt to index global 'Cartographer_Notes' (a nil value)
02:06.36haarmguess thats someone elses fault
02:07.21ckknight~laziness
02:07.22purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
02:07.35haarmtoo long, didn't read
02:07.49ckknightoh, that's for me
02:07.55ckknighttelling it to my would-be girlfriend
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02:10.39NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: ping
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02:11.54NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc|Work: assuming you read this, Sanity2 is giving me errors sometimes when I go to a vendor. here's the error: http://ace.pastey.net/7999
02:13.10CIA-1803ckknight * r29796 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua:
02:13.11CIA-18.AceLibrary - remove :assert in WoW 2.2 and higher.
02:13.11CIA-18This should be plenty of time to fix any code, if any code is left out there.
02:15.21ckknightand the wiki is clear of any assert references
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02:53.08Arrowmasterckknight: shouldn't this be math.min? guildSpammer:ScheduleEvent("Cartographer_GuildPositions_SendMessage", sendPositionToGuild, math.max(5, RollCall:GetNumOnline() / 10))
02:53.21ckknightno, max
02:53.33ckknightsince if it's 5,4 you want to go with 5
02:53.39ckknightbut if it's 5,6 you want to go with 6
02:53.58ckknightif you have 2 members in the guild, you send at 5 seconds apiece
02:54.04Arrowmasterer yeah silly me
02:54.09ckknightbut if you have 100 members, you send at 10 seconds apiece
02:54.57Arrowmasterwas just looking at it because that one guy responded to that post.. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81968405&sid=1
02:57.15Chomperspeople are still arguing over that?
02:57.47Chompers"Is this a feature of Cartographer that the user can disable if they choose not to spam their guild?"
02:57.53Chomperssomeone slap this guy
02:59.50ckknightwhatever, responded
03:02.26JoshBorkeAntiarc|Work: your website is slow :-P
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03:14.55snurre-Arrowmaster: addons that send chat_msg_addons are evil :(
03:15.20Arrowmasteryes all data sharing is evil!
03:16.03snurre-hehe, no.. but doing 12h chat searches in a guild and raid where everyone has cartographer, klhtm, sws and ctra/ora is.. well.. fun(tm)
03:17.45Arrowmasterive heavly modified ViewAddonMessage from the svn and made it ignore klhtm and cartographer_guildpossitions as well as using aceconsoles printliteral
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03:18.54snurre-i just hope they change it to be an actual separate channel, so they dont clutter up my work so much
03:19.04Arrowmaster?
03:19.35snurre-addon messages are sent through the same channel as normal chat
03:20.09Arrowmasterare you chatloging?
03:20.16Arrowmasterand its showing up there?
03:20.25snurre-no, im working with it :p
03:20.30hastehah, so I Can be a REAL ass and just spam it with meaningless data every two sec?
03:20.54snurre-like klhtm? :p
03:20.57snurre-it even sends zero values :p
03:21.03hastedoesn't it do it every sec?
03:21.12snurre-something like that yeah
03:21.17hasteit did it back when it used a channel at least
03:21.20Arrowmasteri thought klhtm stoped sending data if it hadnt changed
03:21.26hasteKLTM 0
03:21.29hastetimes 10000
03:21.45hasteI don't know ,I don't use it :3
03:24.10snurre-I wonder how many gigs of chatlogs the servers are collecting every second during primetime
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03:25.08Bibi`ouFand how many of them are cybersex logs.
03:25.27snurre-mostly on RP realms
03:25.39ZealotOnAStickWell, text compresses nicely . . . and drive space is cheap.
03:26.00Bibi`ouFtext doesn't compress nicely when you log everything
03:27.49snurre-its not compressed though, as it has to be accessible at any time
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03:39.29KarlThePaganyou can compress logs and keep them accessible
03:40.08KarlThePagancompressed volumes in windows or databases or even hourly rotated linux logs
03:40.24KarlThePaganthe latter is probably the easiest way to keep them at a reasonable size
03:40.43KarlThePaganand reading thru compressed logs is easy... "zless" has done it for at least 20 years
03:40.59snurre-well yeah, but i guess there's a balance between getting the necessary power to search through compressed logs at any reasonable speed and just getting more storage space
03:41.23KarlThePagannot that blizzard is smart abotu these thigns
03:41.39KarlThePaganCPU is cheap... memory and disk is not
03:42.29KarlThePagani doubt they do any indexing on their chat logs
03:42.39KarlThePaganif they wanted to search them that's what they'd do
03:43.58snurre-i dont know the technical details about the wow logs tho.. all i know for sure is that everything that's said, every combat action, every loot, every movement is being logged.. and with an average online concurrency well over half a million, the servers are struggling atm :/
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03:55.02xyuthere was a way to make the waypoint clear at a further distance, now i can't find that option. anyone recall where it is?
04:01.08CIA-1803gamefaq * r29797 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua:
04:01.08CIA-18Babble-2.2:
04:01.09CIA-18- Babble Fish small deDE Update
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04:09.51ckknightso I have a paladin, lvl 24
04:09.51ckknightcurrently ret specced
04:09.51ckknightwhen would it be suggested that I respec to prot?
04:12.28Ordoglvl 70
04:12.45Ordogkeep on aoe farmin until then ;P
04:13.05ckknight:-P
04:13.12NightHawkTheSaneckknight: friend of mine leveled up to 65 as prot, so uh, whenever you feel like it :P
04:13.22ckknightI was thinking about that, NightHawkTheSane
04:14.33NightHawkTheSaneI dont think either is strictly superior, just different styles of play
04:14.42ckknighthow does one AoE grind?
04:14.50ckknightwith a pally, that is
04:15.22NightHawkTheSaneConsecrate, Ret Aura, Blessing of Sanctuary, mostly.
04:15.41Ordogretribution aura rocks them murlocs
04:15.55NightHawkTheSanetoss a shield spike on your shield too, if you can.
04:16.18ckknightpart of me wishes I could dual-box with two pallies :-P
04:16.26ckknightseems like it'd be a good combo
04:16.40ckknightjust for kicks
04:17.19ckknightI think I'll stick to Ret until I can get Holy Shield...
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04:21.11JJSheetsOkay, so which is better?  Cooldown or CooldownTimers2?
04:24.07OrdogOmniCooldown ;P
04:24.34xyuagreed ^
04:25.14JJSheetsis it Ace2?  :)  And is it cool enough to not matter if not?  :p
04:25.30NightHawkTheSaneno. and yes. but i'm not sure it does the same thing as Cooldown or CooldownTimers2
04:25.55FISKER_Qckknight around level 40
04:25.59JJSheetsWhat I want is essentially a CandyBar looking thing to tell me when my Pally's Judgement cooldown is ended.
04:26.17ckknightJJSheets: I use CooldownTimers2 for that
04:26.41JJSheetsk
04:28.36FISKER_Qgoodbye cruel #wowace
04:29.02FISKER_Qgoodbye, cruel purl
04:29.05FISKER_Qetc.
04:30.11ckknightcya, FISKER_Q
04:30.21NightHawkTheSaneare you leaving, or simply being melodramatic?
04:30.22NightHawkTheSane:P
04:30.30JJSheetslol
04:32.19FISKER_Qi'm leaving, for work :P
04:32.21HjalteHmm. I have the feeling, that one of the latest libraries is corrupt or something like that. Having just updated KC_Items(the beta) from the svn wow gives me loads of errors. I only updated the libraries, really.
04:33.23ckknightwonder if that was my bad
04:33.25ckknightwhat errors?
04:33.41HjalteUmm, let me reenable kc_items
04:34.31HjalteHeh. This time bugsack didnt even get to load. I'll try again.
04:38.12HjalteCan buggrabber save the errors with a command line or something?
04:39.28JJSheetsbuggrabber will save out to saved variables if you log out correctly.
04:40.04ckknightI'm reading this, and am intrigued: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=77040282&sid=1&pageNo=1
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04:45.48Hjalteckknight: I get 4 errors on log-in http://ace.pastey.net/8004
04:48.02ckknightcomplex
04:48.11ckknightI dunno, and I have to go now
04:49.43HjalteI hope its just me being unlucky :)
04:50.18xyui'm always nervous when i hit "update addons"  because i dont know what i'm going to break :D
04:51.28WobWor1Welcome to the bleeding edge of addons =)
04:51.32WobWor1Sometimes you have to bleed =)
04:52.41ckknightyea, but I need that blood for sustenance
04:52.43ckknightyum yum eat em up
04:57.17OverloadUTA bit late but JJSheets: I use Mik's Scrolling Battle Text with the Ace2 MSBTCooldownAlert plugin :P
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05:09.34CIA-1803funkydude * r29798 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/ (Artwork/HCRamparts.blp InstanceMaps.lua Scripts/pack.lua): Cartographer: InstanceMaps: now using a proper map for Hellfire Ramparts, somewhat lower quality, 2 months late but hey!
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05:13.28WobWor1~seen kemayo
05:13.52purlkemayo <n=kemayo@pool-71-103-171-83.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 3h 18m 51s ago, saying: 'I should stop trying to get help on the ubuntu forums.  Nobody seems to be reading/understanding my post. >_>'.
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05:16.08CIA-1803funkydude * r29799 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: fix boss notes for hellfire ramparts
05:16.08Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/guild_rep.php
05:16.09Antiarc<PROTECTED>
05:16.56NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: you have way too much time on your hands
05:17.44AntiarcNah, I'm just reusing code
05:17.46Funkeh`Antiarc i blame people like you for slowing down the armoury
05:17.52Funkeh`:p
05:17.54AntiarcThe armory is very fast
05:18.03AntiarcIt's rendering all the XSLT/javascript that's so dog slow.
05:19.25NightHawkTheSanedo you have the code for those pages available?
05:19.37AntiarcSure, one sec
05:20.41NightHawkTheSaneAlso, aside, It's sad that I pretty much have more rep with every faction than almost everyone else in my guidl.
05:21.23Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/armory.zip
05:22.06NightHawkTheSaneawesome. thanks :)
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05:24.16Daemonainteresting stuff Antiarc :)
05:26.44Daemonathough i gotta say, it lacks column sorting, to see who is lacking in certain reps fast :)
05:27.14NightHawkTheSaneno, you can sort by rep
05:28.41AntiarcDaemona: You can sort.
05:28.44AntiarcJust click a column header.
05:29.10Daemonauuuh then i gotta admit i didnt allow scripts in firefox for your domain :X
05:29.15AntiarcHeheh
05:29.37NightHawkTheSane:p
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05:44.00TheKarnwhere's the best palce to grind for gold as a lvl 70?
05:44.39ZealotOnAStickwhat tradeskills you have?
05:44.44TheKarntailoring
05:44.54TheKarnand 45/75 jewelcrafting
05:44.56ZealotOnAStickno gathering profession?
05:45.10TheKarnnope
05:45.25ZealotOnAStickHmm, dunno then.  probably slaughter blood elves or ethereals.
05:46.25ZealotOnAStickyou finished all your quests?
05:46.38TheKarnnah i just got lvl 70 so i'm kinda bored of quests
05:46.46NightHawkTheSanegrind for primals and sell them
05:47.01ZealotOnAStickrunning for quests at 70 is probably the most time efficient.  Lots of gold on the rewards.
05:47.20NightHawkTheSaneindeed
05:47.47ZealotOnAStickI hit 70 without doing any of the Netherstorm or Shadowmoon quests . . .
05:48.12NightHawkTheSaneYeah, same. They were great gold
05:48.17ZealotOnAStickI made nearly 2k gold from the netherstorm quests, and I figure I'll have another 1500 or better easy in Shadowmoon.
05:49.09NightHawkTheSaneYeah, something like that. I know I really only had to grind for about ~500g to get my epic flying mount
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06:26.15Temmass genocide is always a good way to make money in wow
06:29.25Funkeh`...
06:29.33Funkeh`just lost 30min of work because of an error
06:30.19NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: ping. you still around?
06:31.19Antiarcyup
06:32.23NightHawkTheSaneAh, i mentioned this a while ago, but wasn't sure if you saw it. I've been getting errors with Sanity2 occasionally when I go to a vendor. http://ace.pastey.net/7999
06:34.00AntiarcHm. Maybe a conflict between Cola and Sanity's tooltip stuff
06:34.06Finnew PC... you shall be mine
06:38.33Arrowmasteris it bad that im alt-tabed about half the time in this heroic instance and were still not having any issues?
06:38.41Findefine bad
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06:39.19ChompersWhich instance?
06:39.21Finif your definition is "good" then that's entirely wrong
06:39.38TheKarnarrowmaster what class are you?
06:39.55Finif it's "you're overpowered" then, getting warmer :P
06:40.05Chompers"warrior"
06:40.06NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: it probably just means you're not the tank or healer
06:40.07Chompers:P
06:41.08Finhey, rogues and hunters have to concentrate very hard too, there's some serious clicking they need to pay attention to
06:41.18ArrowmasterNightHawkTheSane: im a warlock CC'ing
06:41.27Arrowmasterand lol double pull and we killed it easyly
06:41.38Chompersslave pens?
06:41.42NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: like i said. If you're not the one trying to take damage or the one healing, heroics really arnt much different than any other instance
06:42.05Arrowmasteryes slave pens
06:43.01Chomperstry underbog :o
06:43.04Chompersoh god
06:43.05Arrowmaster3x techs, 2x collaborator, 1x enchantress pull easyly downed without any deaths, gg aoe fears
06:43.28Arrowmasteryeah i know we've done all the coilfang heroics
06:43.32Chompersyeah, its an easy 3 badges a day
06:44.18Arrowmasterdid underbog with a resto shaman and holy priest healing, they go so bored they started shadow word deathing and lightning bolting
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06:51.26FinNargiddley: ping
06:52.38Nargiddleyfin, whats up ?
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06:57.01CIA-1803funkydude * r29800 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua:
06:57.02CIA-18BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon:
06:57.02CIA-18- estimated blast nova timers
06:57.02CIA-18- banish(weaken) timers
06:57.02CIA-18- mind exhaustion timer bars of your players(off by default, can be spammy)
06:57.02CIA-18- extra breaks free alert
06:58.09Funkeh`now some sleep!
06:58.11Funkeh`gn
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07:25.36Finis Waterfall a dropin replacement for Dewdrop?
07:26.49Nargiddleyit will run off the same AceOptions tables yes
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07:44.06NightHawkTheSaneugh i really hate everyone.
07:45.46Finwhy?
07:46.22NightHawkTheSanebecause despite it being 2 am server time, I still can't quest in peace without some pissant alliance being a douche
07:48.38KolthTrue that.
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07:51.34Fisker-hello cruel #wowace
07:51.35art3misman the order of the stick is awesome
07:51.44art3misdamn you industrial
07:53.03Ziconnighthawkthesane: And that's why you couldn't pay me to play on a pvp server.
07:53.25NightHawkTheSaneZicon: Yeah. I'd never be on this one if my friends weren't there.
07:53.55ZiconI know the problem. I glad my friends became reasonable after a while.
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07:54.21NightHawkTheSaneIt's bad enough that I already have a prot warrior (lawl free hk), doing this again is going to drive me insane.
07:54.39NightHawkTheSaneer, have a 70 prot warrior on a pvp server.
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07:56.01art3mishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kId5tG1rmYQ
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07:59.01NickenyfikenHehe anyone got gankers at Nesingwary expedition in Nagrand?
07:59.58CIA-1803trh * r29802 10VanasKoS/VanasKoS.toc: VanasKoS: revision string fixed
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08:05.47NightHawkTheSanelol
08:10.19Punkie`Omg amazing nick: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.msg87227#msg87227
08:10.44Punkie`next alt im making is gonna be called simplecombatlog
08:13.16CIA-1803uruloke * r29803 10ArcHUD2/Rings/ (Casting.lua DruidMana.lua):
08:13.16CIA-18ArcHUD2:
08:13.16CIA-18* Support added for AceDruidBar
08:13.16CIA-18* Support added for FuBar_ToFu
08:14.02Nickenyfikenmuahahhaa
08:14.16NickenyfikenIm gonna make a exploring Dwarf named Cartographer
08:14.32Punkie`is it going to be a miner?
08:14.40Punkie`you should call it cartographermining
08:14.54Punkie`then make a nightelf with herbalism with an alternate extention!
08:15.02Punkie`modular alts
08:15.03Punkie`awesome
08:15.42Nickenyfikenhehe
08:15.50NightHawkTheSane...
08:17.36Nickenyfikendamnit today im gonna play WoW
08:17.40art3misi think ocularus needs to be killed for linking a huge image on that page from a shitty site
08:17.49Punkie`yeah, haha
08:18.09Punkie`you only need to see the top 2 cm tho :P
08:18.23art3misin that one screenie a couple pages back whats the buff things down in the contained boxes
08:18.34art3mishe's got bad in one contained box and good in one
08:18.37art3misis that sorrens?
08:20.29art3misse99's posts on 58
08:22.30Nickenyfikeni havent redone my UI since TBC release
08:22.36Nickenyfikenmust be personal record
08:23.51art3misheh im happy with mine
08:24.03art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg
08:24.44Feldiaisn't that just mazzle ui?
08:25.11art3misonly the target and self unit frames and bottom art
08:25.42art3misi disliked her button and bag and quest choices
08:25.48art3misand a host of other crap
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08:26.06CIA-1803trh * r29804 10VanasKoS/VanasKoS.toc: VanasKoS: keywords added
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08:26.40Punkie`I hate the overuse of Comic Sans in MazzleUI :P
08:26.44Soullessunix rap lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4
08:28.38trhSoulless: awesome
08:29.34Soullessit was linked on my guilds forums and only 2/70ish people got it
08:29.38Soullesssadface panda
08:31.47trhSoulless: well.. it's very very geeky ;)
08:32.02trhkill -9 ;)
08:33.03Soullessyeah, but its so awesome lol
08:33.19SoullessLIKE PREEMPTIVE MULTITASKING, lmao
08:34.45trhbut some lines are hard to understand for non-native-speakers ;)
08:35.16Soullessyeah, its hard for me to get it all and english is my first language
08:35.38Soullessthe guitarist is trying to sing back-up and doing a horrible job or he doesn't know the lyrics
08:35.41trhdump the core, trace the stack lol =)
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08:37.28art3misfor some reason this comment is funny
08:37.32art3misps -ef|grep monzy|grep -v grep|awk '{print $1}'|xargs kill -9
08:38.28Soullessi only get about half of that
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08:58.26Soullessi'll drop your ass like a modem drops packets haha
09:04.30Arrowmastergah took fucking forever to find it again!
09:04.33Arrowmasterhttp://mbsrules.com/RIT.htm is better
09:05.50Healthhttp://www.monzy.com/intro/drama_lyrics.html is better
09:06.03Healthsame duuude
09:06.09NeoTronWoot. Aran down, last attempt for the night. I was alive with 1k hp/300 mana and there was a rogue up too
09:06.15NeoTronclose... but enough
09:06.52NightHawkTheSaneheh, on our first aran kill, the rogue finished him off and died right at the same instance. a kill, but a total wipe. ><
09:07.47NeoTronthe turning point was to turn one DPS into healing (enhancement shammy)
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09:08.29Nickenyfikenlol i didnt know talbuks was climbing trees
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09:16.47NightHawkTheSaneNickenyfiken: man, they'll do anything to get away from those windrocs
09:17.43Nickenyfikenhaha
09:18.14Nickenyfikenwindrocs can't fly up in the trees? :-(
09:18.57NightHawkTheSanewell, they probably can, but no one's saying the talbuks are all that smart
09:38.03Fisker-Anyone know where to read about some tunnelling for WoW?
09:38.27evlas in SSL tunneling?
09:38.38Fisker-sure
09:38.47Fisker-whatever floats your boat :P
09:39.05Fisker-I do intend running it over ssh though
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09:41.36Fisker-But it's something like this socks-server remotely <ssh connection> socks server locally and then some kind of socks software for wow right?
09:45.25evlI'd use Hamachi
09:45.32evlhttp://www.hamachi.cc/
09:51.14Sparhawkeis hamachi ssh?
09:52.03evlno, it's basically a zero-config vpn client
09:52.29abbat_wi use nec sockd on my linux boxes and entunnel for provide tunneling over ssh2
09:52.51abbat_wso, i just map remote sshd port to port on my pc
09:52.55abbat_wthats all ;)
09:55.08mitch0Fisker-: I don't think you can get away with only ssh
09:55.30Fisker-no
09:55.37Fisker-that's why i used socks servers
09:55.38mitch0as you'd need some static routing, too
09:57.08Fisker-trying to find a proxy server that can proxy through another proxy
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10:13.51CIA-1803nymbia * r29805 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:
10:13.52CIA-18Doodle:
10:13.52CIA-18- A couple little bugfixes.
10:16.42CartasHm, how odd... :| Bongos seems to me giving me a huge amount of errors (over 600) when I switch weapons in combat...
10:17.15Cartasand also Bartender3...
10:18.37CartasOr... !BugGrabber? :O
10:19.21SunTigersomething you have is tainting the button code ?
10:19.35CartasI've no idea. I disable Bongos, and the error no longer occurs.
10:19.49CartasIf Bongos is on, and I disable Buggrabber, no errors appear.
10:20.25CartasI guess it's not tainting if the error stops happening on disabling the addon, right? :o
10:21.02CartasAlthough, I've no idea how that work, so, it's possible Buggrabber is tainting it, maybe...? :S
10:21.14Cartasworks*
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10:23.53Grollhmm what is that msn clone called? i need a new prog cause i cant run microsofts crappy msn any more :S
10:24.21CartasGaim? :
10:25.27Grollgaim hmm no dont think that is the one :P
10:25.55NightHawkTheSaneAdium?
10:26.02Grollah trillian
10:26.08CartasHow is that an MSN clone?
10:26.29Grollwell ok maybe not clone..
10:26.37CartasTrillian = Ew, IMO :P
10:27.07NightHawkTheSaneCartas: agreed.
10:27.55ZiconI'm happy with a Jabber client and the nearest MSN transport. :)
10:28.03Grollwell gimme something better then :P
10:28.26CartasGaim! :p[
10:28.41Grolloke oke will look at it then :P
10:29.03CartasNothing apart from MSN seems to be as good though, I find :(
10:29.14CartasI'd love to change from MSN, but, I can't, because nothing better exists! :'(
10:29.16NightHawkTheSaneGroll: Adium if you have a Mac
10:29.30CartasWhy would he have a Mac? :(
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10:29.48CartasAlthough Adium is very nice, actually :)
10:30.00CartasRed ducks > *
10:30.01Grollya why would i have a mac? mac's suck :P
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10:30.45NightHawkTheSaneuh huh, whatever. In any case, yeah, Adium is really nicely done.
10:30.57NightHawkTheSanealthough, to be fair, it's built on top of the same libraries as gaim, really
10:30.59CartasNeed some kind of Adium for Windows. :(
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10:32.32CartasDoes one exist, NightHawkTheSane?
10:33.24NightHawkTheSaneCartas: not that I'm aware.
10:33.35Cartas:(
10:33.39Grollgaim aint got webcam :(
10:33.45CartasCurse you to hell, Windows XP!
10:39.26trhwith vista you'd curse even harder :P
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10:41.15Cartaslol
10:41.15evlNeed Adium for Windows :(
10:41.29CartasI just Linux was more compatible :(
10:41.29NightHawkTheSaneget a mac! ;)
10:41.33CartasI just wish*
10:42.51echosThe new version of trillian looks perty nice not 3.1 but the one that's currently in beta testing
10:43.24echoshttp://www.ceruleanstudios.com/ap/
10:43.26evlNightHawkTheSane: this is my last pc
10:43.41Cartas:O
10:43.55CartasI hope it lasts you a loooooong time, evl.
10:44.11evlDunno
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10:44.26evlWindows is a mediocre OS clogged with corporate crap features 3% of the user base has any use for
10:44.37NightHawkTheSanemeh, it doesnt really matter. use whatever you want, imo. :P
10:44.49CartasGo Linux! :p
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10:45.21NightHawkTheSaneWhen I get another comp, I'll probably load linux on this one and turn it into some kind of server.
10:45.21evlLinux is like building a porsche from scratch
10:45.29evlThe only problem is that most people would just like the god damn porsche
10:45.32NightHawkTheSaneevl: no, that's Gentoo
10:45.33trhCartas: and linux is a feature collection.. but every one is unuseable due to too complex/crappy interfaces... great ;)
10:45.43echosApple really needs to make an enthusiast line for their computers. Their logic boards have no SLI support, plus their professional series is out of the range of most gamers. Just need a mac tower with a intel core 2 and SLI support.
10:45.52NightHawkTheSaneLinux in general is more like building a car from a do-it-yourself kit, with instructions.
10:46.31trhNightHawkTheSane: true, but the instructions are in japanese :P
10:46.37CartasI would never get a mac for gaming though :S
10:46.44NightHawkTheSanetrh: lol, fair enough.
10:46.55evlI play WoW on my work laptop :P
10:46.58trhNightHawkTheSane: at least for the average user
10:47.01NightHawkTheSaneCartas: yeah, i dont really game that much so it doesn't typically bother me
10:47.12evlInspiron 9300 2gb ram, I got about 60-70 FPS in 1920x1200 with everything maxed
10:47.15CartasI game all the time! :P
10:47.33NightHawkTheSaneCartas: of course, you can blame the publishers for that :P
10:47.39CartasNah.
10:47.53CartasMacs just feel so... urgh...
10:47.58evlThey work
10:48.03echosI'm curious to see how the ATI R600 is going to stack against the Nvidia GeForce R600
10:48.05CartasMy Windows XP works.
10:48.06evland for everyday tasks they are superior to Linux and Windows.
10:48.16CartasNot from my experience :(
10:48.22CartasMacs seem to creash quite a bit.
10:48.29JaxonTHIS IS A HOLY BATTLE.
10:48.31nevcairieli develop windows applications, i dont think a mac can be superior for that :P
10:48.34trhmacos vs windows is just a question of how much you're used to one
10:48.35NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
10:48.36evlsvchost.exe @ 99 CPU ftw anyone?
10:48.42echosyou mean kernal panic
10:48.50NightHawkTheSanethe last time i restarted this was for a system update, that required a restart (bah to taht)
10:49.22JaxonMy uptime penis is bigger than yours.
10:49.25trhNightHawkTheSane: err? whats so special? even windows can do 2 weeks without a problem
10:49.31NightHawkTheSaneCartas: hardware wise, there's actually extremely little difference between modern macs and modern pc's.
10:49.43CartasWell...
10:49.46CartasMacs have slow mice :()
10:49.53CartasEven with the speed full up, it's soooooo slow compared to Windows.
10:49.55NightHawkTheSanetrh: not saying it's special, just that "quite a bit" is really relative. :P
10:49.56trhNightHawkTheSane: theres the bios.. and a one-button-mice.. thats about it ;)
10:50.18evlironically, all our designers use Microsoft Intellimouse
10:50.18nevcairieli couldnt live without my right-click
10:50.20evlThe white one :P
10:50.28NightHawkTheSanetrh: yeah. but you can buy a 2 button mouse easily enough.
10:50.31trhlogitech mice are the best :)
10:50.34trhNightHawkTheSane: true =)
10:50.48NightHawkTheSanetrh: agreed, i love my logitech mx550, old, but it works wonderfully
10:50.55NightHawkTheSaneer,  mx510
10:51.03trhNightHawkTheSane: yeah.. i got that one too :)
10:51.18trhNightHawkTheSane: and suprisingly the setpoint software that shouldn't work under vista does for that mouse :)
10:51.30NightHawkTheSanethat's cool
10:51.38NightHawkTheSaneUSB overdrive ftw on macs.
10:51.41nevcairielthere is a vista setpoint iirc
10:51.41trhi mean the setpoint software shouldnt work for that mouse under vista
10:51.49trhnevcairiel: ya.. i mean the vista setpoint
10:51.58trhnevcairiel: but it isn't supposed to work with the mx 510
10:52.02trhonly mx 518 and later
10:52.02nevcairielheh
10:52.13trhbut it does work :)
10:52.34nevcairieli got a g5, but didnt try on vista ;)
10:52.48CartasI have a Raptor-Gaming mouse :P
10:53.05CartasSome mouse no-one seems to have heard of!
10:53.21NightHawkTheSane... and how does that differ from my mx510? ;)
10:53.29CartasIt's superior!
10:53.38trhwhy that?
10:53.38NightHawkTheSanebecause? :)
10:53.43CartasEr... umm...
10:53.55trhi think its superior in price
10:54.00trhcosts about twice as much
10:54.01trhhehe
10:54.11NightHawkTheSanelol
10:54.12CartasThe Mx510 doens't look so nice :o
10:54.24trhCartas: the blue mx510 rocks :)
10:54.32CartasI don't like that look, tbh :P
10:54.36NightHawkTheSanemine's red.
10:54.39CartasHow much does the mx510 cost?
10:54.42ZealotOnAStickI like my MX1000.
10:54.53trhCartas: it was 40eur
10:54.55NightHawkTheSanewhen I bought it, like 5 years ago, it was what, $20ish?
10:55.01trh2 years ago or something
10:56.26CartasAh, okay.
10:56.33CartasMine cost me £11 :o
10:57.01trhit's pretty bad to compare prices from different countries ;)
10:57.11NightHawkTheSanetrh: nah, google ftw.
10:57.12Cartas;)
10:57.24NightHawkTheSanehttp://www.google.com/search?q=11 pounds in euros
10:57.36NightHawkTheSaneexcept with %20 instead of spaces
10:57.41NightHawkTheSaneor +'s, whatever
10:57.47NightHawkTheSaneyou know what i mean! shut up! :P
10:57.59CartasI think trh meant that the conversation rate doesn't really tell you the value.
10:58.12CartasDue to the different countries' economy and such :P
10:58.15trhNightHawkTheSane: yeah, but us is alot cheaper for electronic stuff
10:58.22trhCartas: right
10:58.28NightHawkTheSanetrue
10:58.31CartasWe make a good team, trh.
10:58.40NightHawkTheSanethough most of that is tax
10:59.22trhi think i'm gonna fetch some breakfast
10:59.25trhcu later
10:59.31CartasCya old chap.
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11:08.33Fisker-ok mitch0
11:08.40Fisker-that was a fucking lot easier than i thought
11:08.54Fisker-Use putty, make a dynamic tunnel, use freecap to connect to the same port
11:08.55Fisker-voila
11:08.58Fisker-tunnel for everything
11:09.46Loki|muhsure. ssh kicks ass :)
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11:13.06Fisker-oh yeah Loki|muh :P
11:16.45Fisker-oh yeah
11:16.50Fisker-must be like my best day ever
11:16.56Fisker-Crezax is done moderating the forums
11:17.08Fisker-and i was unbanned yesterday
11:18.19Gngskhe get fired or something?
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11:26.22wobin_~seen kemayo
11:26.46purlkemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 18m 27s) #wowace (2h 18m 27s), last said: 'I should stop trying to get help on the ubuntu forums.  Nobody seems to be reading/understanding my post. >_>'.
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11:29.52Fisker-i dunno Gngsk
11:30.06Fisker-I wouldn't think he is
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11:35.29CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
11:35.29CIA-18- Add table references to internal functions to ensure that weak values in cache are not collected while in use internally.
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11:38.12Punkie`Fisker- you dissapoint me :( Unbanned and have yet to complain that Ommra's sig is ascii art :(
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11:49.29Punkie`wtb engineering updates already :(
11:51.19Loki|muhis there anything known about
11:51.22Loki|muhany details?
11:51.46nevcairieldont think so
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11:51.55evlAnyone got any good documentation pointers regarding the UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events?
11:51.55Nickenyfikenyeah me too
11:52.05Nickenyfikeni stopped at 350 eng
11:52.13Punkie`im at 370
11:52.21Punkie`i think a blue mentioned frost grenades
11:52.26Loki|muhbut I'm happy with engineering as it is now. i love my teleport to everlook and area 52
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11:52.58Punkie`i have the crit scope schematic
11:53.06Loki|muhuh thats nice
11:53.09Punkie`but 370-375 is so expensive
11:53.11Nickenyfikenbah a profession just to teleport?
11:53.25evlLoki|muh: when you get epic flying mount that's hardly worth it, takes 2-3 mins to fly from shatt to area 52.
11:53.47Loki|muhevl: still 2k to go :/
11:53.50evland I can pick up ~50g in mining on the way :)
11:53.55Punkie`yeah, the gadgetzan one is nice though evl :P
11:54.11evlsure is, retarded that there's no CoT teleporter in Shatt.
11:54.22Punkie`aye
11:54.44NightHawkTheSaneeh, it makes sense why there's not. it's just obnoxious
11:56.39Punkie`uhhh, ok : http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2007-03-08T130742Z_01_L07183241_RTRUKOC_0_US-GERMANY-SPECTATOR-ATTACK.xml&src=rss
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11:58.08NightHawkTheSanemmm. children's sports.
11:58.19Punkie`sigh
11:58.28echosping ammo
11:59.53NightHawkTheSanetry [Ammo], that'll probably work.
12:00.14echosping [ammo]
12:00.28trhPucmel: weird.. but definitely not a world-wide-news worthy
12:00.39CIA-1803fleetfoot * r29807 10Nudge/Nudge.lua:
12:00.39CIA-18Nudge:
12:00.39CIA-18- Added option to turn on attack when target moves into deadzone.
12:00.42NightHawkTheSanewts [Tab Nick Completion] :P
12:01.05[Ammo]nevah
12:01.33trhNightHawkTheSane: how much?
12:01.46NightHawkTheSaneum. 500g?
12:02.00Wobin[Ammo]: You could probably register Ammo as a nickname
12:02.13trhNightHawkTheSane: fair price, send me the fixed version from mirc to autocomplete automatically to the person last heard in channel and not alphabetically :P
12:02.15WobinYou just have to get one of the ops to clear the current entry
12:02.16NightHawkTheSanewhy the braces, anyway?
12:02.28[Ammo]I could, but then I wouldn't have Artifact brackets
12:02.32NightHawkTheSanetrh: ill get right on that.
12:02.42[Ammo]my name is actually in red you know
12:02.48nevcairielhehe
12:02.55nevcairiellike all non-ops and non-voices :P
12:02.57nevcairielfor my setup
12:03.05[Ammo]haha
12:03.42echosbut so yeah I have another patch for your consideration ammo http://ace.pastey.net/8013
12:04.02NightHawkTheSaneno, really, why the brackets? and why put ` or - at the end of a nick? I'm a little boggled.
12:04.08CIA-1803nymbia * r29808 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua:
12:04.08CIA-18PeriodicTable-3.0:
12:04.08CIA-18- Tweak storage of nonexistant sets.
12:04.51Punkie`ammo is just evil
12:05.06[Ammo]that update-bar is useless
12:05.15[Ammo]you can just start a new one with the new time
12:05.23NightHawkTheSane[nymbia]--: okay, you win. ><
12:05.33[nymbia]--NightHawkTheSane: lol
12:06.02echosthe update bar is used for the purpose of starting a bar with the estimated spawn time then updating when the trigger is started
12:06.25Punkie`NightHawkTheSane: How's the in-game mudkip getting along? !!!
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12:06.51NightHawkTheSaneNightHawkTheSane: about as well as [Ammo]'s work on an in-game tomagachi
12:06.54NightHawkTheSaneor however you spell it
12:07.16Punkie`:(
12:07.28Punkie`its a gnome-agotchi btw
12:07.44[Ammo]evl: you're also defining a local within a scope and usinga  global outside of it
12:07.48[Ammo]which is bad
12:07.53[Ammo]in short, your patch is crap :p
12:07.53Cartas:O
12:08.05nevcairielwrong guy ammo :D
12:08.09Punkie`haha
12:08.10CartasGive in-game tamogachi! :p
12:08.18[nymbia]--layin the smack down
12:08.19[Ammo]oh echos
12:08.20[Ammo]whatever
12:08.25[Ammo]the guy starting with an e
12:08.30evl[Ammo]: yeah, and your sufflé sucked ass.
12:08.41echos?
12:08.48[Ammo]evl: hehe
12:08.55[Ammo]echos: your code is wrong
12:08.56NightHawkTheSanelol
12:09.00Punkie`I want a USB powered Hiro from Heroes, that pushes his glasses up and shouts YAHOO! randomly
12:09.01Punkie`awesome
12:09.02nevcairieldont pick on poor echos, its easy to fix
12:09.10[Ammo]it's still wrong
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12:09.31[Ammo]even if the code was correct the whole thing is still wrong
12:09.41nymbiaevl: YOUR FIRST LETTER IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD
12:09.56echosok
12:10.24[Ammo]it can be done so much cleaner
12:10.44[Ammo]if I read correctly what it is supposed to do
12:10.55Silviu-MikScrollingBattleText v4.1 ahm seems like Miklord don`t sleep :)
12:10.56trhPunkie`: there isn't such thing as a usb powered hiro, is there?
12:11.29NightHawkTheSaneSilviu-: sleep is for the weak!
12:11.37Silviu-;p
12:11.47[Ammo]oh new msbt?
12:11.49echossorry my guilds doing karazhan atm so I'm alt tabbing while drinking
12:12.05WobinNah
12:12.08Wobindrink while raiding
12:12.11echosso try and /msg me please ammo
12:12.12Wobinit makes it more bearable
12:12.13[Ammo]well what you seem to be doing is rescheduling the infernals on phase messages
12:12.13[Ammo]right?
12:12.25[Ammo]meh I'll clean it up myself
12:12.30Silviu-[Ammo] yep
12:13.40echosok
12:15.03echosyeah whe I set the bar to 45 sec in phase 1 and 2 its estimated at 45 sec, then when I update it to 20 that's the actual time
12:17.28echosammo - so does the est spwn then update to actual spawn make sense?
12:18.01[Ammo]what doesn't make sense is starting a 20 second delayed timer to start a 45 second infernal bar
12:18.05Punkie`trh: of course not :(
12:19.04echosammo - that is because when the event occurs is 20 sec before the infernals spawn
12:21.00[Ammo]so he yells, 20 seconds later first infernal drops then every 45 seconds?
12:21.32[Ammo]because your timers make it pretty different from the original implementation
12:21.57echoshe yells 20 sec before spawning infernals
12:22.10echosbut after infernals spawn its ~45
12:22.21[Ammo]does he yell for every infernal?
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12:22.38[Ammo]or just once, and then the next spawns in 20 seconds
12:22.51[Ammo]I mean 45 seconds
12:23.03nevcairielYou do not fight Malchezaar alone, but the Legions i command. <-- thats the yell? he does it all the time.
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12:23.42nevcairielwording might be off, i wrote it from the top of my head :D
12:23.46echosyeah for phase 1 and 2 then 20 sec in phase 3
12:23.52nymbia"You face not Malchezzar alone, but the legions I command."
12:24.09nevcairielah that sounds right
12:24.16nevcairieli shall extract the soundfile to that
12:24.18nevcairieli kinda liked it
12:24.33nevcairielnow if i can get a working MPQ tool thingy
12:24.46nymbia[Ammo]: there's a yell for each infernal, two different trigger yells
12:24.52[Ammo]ok
12:25.06[Ammo]and after yell it's 20 seconds till infernal spawns and 45 seconds till the next yell approx
12:25.09[Ammo]in phase 1 and 2
12:25.43nymbiai havent timed between infernals but yeah it's 15-20 seconds after the yell that it lands
12:26.10[Ammo]and 45 seconds between landings I presume
12:26.41nymbiaif it's a 45 second gap, then yes.  off the top of my head that sounds too short
12:27.19[Ammo]from wowwiki: Every 45 seconds or so, Malchezaar will summon an Infernal which, about 3 seconds after landing,
12:27.57nymbiathere should be a transcript or 3 floating around the karazhan thread
12:28.48[Ammo]yeah just trying to get some info on it
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12:29.04[Ammo]reading transcripts is fine
12:29.13[Ammo]but some info on what occurs on screen helps too
12:29.26nymbiayeah :)
12:32.32nymbia[Ammo]: yup, 45 seconds.  so when he yells it's 20 seconds until it lands, 45 seconds until the next yell, 65 seconds til the next lands and so on
12:33.31[Ammo]okie
12:33.40nymbia[Ammo]: also, the pace maintains for part of phase 3, he starts spamming them at 15 or 20, while phase 3 starts at 30.  not that the timer needs to take that into account
12:33.53[Ammo]the timer doesn't atm
12:34.23[Ammo]it just says infernal in 20 seconds each time
12:34.27[Ammo]which is fine enough by me
12:34.41[Ammo]the yell just occurs more often when he is low health
12:34.48nymbiayeah, it's plenty of warning
12:35.11[Ammo]I'm not sure the module even needs the 45 second timers
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12:36.15echosthe 45 sec is like a pace keeper for the fight
12:37.26[Ammo]I could make the 45 second timer selfadjusting, so once he starts spamming the infernals it adjusts
12:37.59echosyeah
12:38.17nymbiaactually the main thing that bugs me is that if it's a high-trajectory shot, the infernal will land in about 15 seconds
12:38.47nymbiathe ones to the wall are a full 20 seconds though
12:39.02echoswell I run dealdy boss mods side by side with BigWigs and once BigWigs does all stuff I think it should be doing I kill the deadly boss mods for that boss. but yeah it has the 45 sec timer for the fight and I found it helpful to be honest so I thought it would be worth adding
12:39.03[Ammo]hmmm
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12:44.29[Ammo]he does infernals in phase 2 as well right?
12:44.45echosyes all phases
12:45.59echosbut phase 3 its just 22.5 sec
12:50.27CIA-1803wmrojer * r29809 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillInfo.lua:
12:50.27CIA-18TradeskillInfo :
12:50.27CIA-18- Hopefully fixed UpdateKnowTradeRecipes error
12:51.15CIA-1803wmrojer * r29810 10CharacterInfoStorage/CharacterInfoStorage.lua:
12:51.15CIA-18CharacterInfoStorage :
12:51.15CIA-18- Added support for inbox.
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12:51.36CIA-18CharacterInfo :
12:51.36CIA-18- Added support for inbox.
12:52.42mitch0that reminds me, one of my addons display an error whenever I learn a new spell and ever after when I reopen the spellbook (until relog)
12:52.58mitch0I don't know the exact error message, nor which addon does it, but fix it asap, kk?
12:53.46CIA-1803wmrojer * r29812 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (GarbageFu.lua GarbageFu_Vendor.lua):
12:53.46CIA-18FuBar_GarbageFu :
12:53.46CIA-18- Added support for LootLink.
12:53.46CIA-18- Changed what items gets into the list of items for KeepItems
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13:04.20echosSo ammo whats the final verdict?
13:04.52kenlyricammo is guilty of being awesome.
13:05.13echosI think we must aquit
13:05.15[Ammo]I'm checking an elegant way of showing a 'next infernal landing' bar
13:05.28echoscool
13:05.33[Ammo]'next infernal yell' actualy
13:05.37HealthWill there be cool animations and sounds? Maybe could fit an arcane explotion somewhere?
13:05.59nymbiasmoke machines and lasers.
13:06.03[Ammo]because showing just one timerbar is fugly
13:06.13[Ammo]better to use 2, one to show the pace, the other to show the actual landing of the infernal
13:06.22[Ammo]although just the 20 second landing bar is good enough
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13:10.32echosI think unifieing the bar would be ideal for losing clutter
13:12.10echoscause its really one bar in the first place
13:12.24echosyou just estimating the spawn then syncing it to the correct time
13:13.07Gngskdid they remove mobs from chromie's inn @ andorhal?
13:16.11echosIts like saying there is a meetiing at 6:00 then calling in before the meeting and saying your going to be 10 min late.
13:18.12kenlyricFISKER_Q: ping!
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13:26.43UE|Daemonahmm who is in charge of cartographer_noteshare?
13:27.07[Ammo]kagaro
13:27.13echosAnyone know of a good mod for suppressing gold tells and mail messages?
13:28.01Daemona*snap* not around :/ i just had to notice how handy a progress message on sharing a herbalism database would be... as broadcasting the database is interupted by gathering herbs ...
13:28.07[Ammo]echos: SCM
13:28.18nevcairieli disabled the anti spam of SCM
13:28.28nevcairielit kinda disturbed me, that it filterd crafting messages
13:28.39[Ammo]oh reminds me
13:28.42[Ammo]I still have a patch for it :p
13:28.44[Ammo]on my local copy
13:28.53echosis SCM in the ace svn?
13:28.58nevcairielyes
13:28.59[Ammo]that enables you to turn of the spam protection, but not the gold spam protect ion :)
13:29.12nevcairielgood stuff ammo
13:29.24nevcairieli commented the spam protection in my copy
13:29.37[Ammo]you can set the SPAM_HISTORY to 0
13:29.40[Ammo]that disables it
13:29.45[Ammo]but I have to test it a bit
13:30.06Loki|muhthere is a gold spam protection addon? thats nice, what is its name?
13:30.22abbat_wcan scm filter 'gimme 10 stacks of food and 10 stacks of water'
13:30.25abbat_w?
13:30.35[Ammo]no
13:30.39abbat_wor '100 mian bao ok ty' and like this
13:30.39[Ammo]but it filters all the goldspam :p
13:30.41abbat_w;(
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13:30.52nevcairielmian bao ok?
13:30.56abbat_wall goldspam? hmm.. this much better ;)
13:31.07nevcairielgood to be no mage
13:31.17abbat_wnevcairiel, chinese rogue farmers ask for food '100 mian bao ok ty'
13:31.32abbat_wthis mean rogue want 5 stacks of food ;)
13:32.02Loki|muhhmmm, there is no scm at files.wowace.com or am I too blind?
13:32.16nevcairielSimpleChatMods
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13:33.24nymbiathat config file could use some comments that make it workable for the non-lua savvy
13:33.38nevcairielits not meant to be for those :D
13:33.46Loki|muhtz
13:33.49Loki|muhty
13:33.58CIA-1803ammo * r29813 10SimpleChatMods/antispam.lua: SimpleChatMods: You can now set SCM_ANTISPAM_HISTORY = 0 to disable multiple of the same message spam. This will keep the goldspam protection in place
13:34.06[Ammo]get that nevc :p
13:34.16[Ammo]just put SCM_ANTISPAM_HISTORY = 0 in your myconfig.lua
13:34.26[Ammo]it won't keep spam history then
13:34.26nevcairielthat will only cause conflicts with my local fixed verison
13:34.28nevcairielnoes!
13:35.26[Ammo]haha
13:36.27nevcairielplus my account is kinda frozen right now, so i dun care
13:36.32[Ammo]frozen?
13:36.34[Ammo]what did you do?
13:36.39echoslawl I like how I can spaek an entire conversation just by asking a simple question
13:36.54nevcairieli reported a possible hack to my account, and they froze me for 72h for "account sharing"
13:37.10abbat_wahah ;)
13:37.29echosI had that happen and I had to fax them a copy of my photo id it sucked
13:37.57nevcairielthey already confirmed that its really my account, with cdkey and all that information
13:38.35nevcairielbut still, i went to an GM to tell them that some of my items were missing, the GM told me they where send with mail, in a time when i was at university, and a day later i am grounded for account sharing .. their system is teh suck
13:38.57nevcairieli already pestered customer service, but no answer yet
13:39.34[Ammo]that sucks
13:40.02nevcairielbut
13:40.07nevcairieli got a 10day guest ticket for coding :P
13:40.10[Ammo]blizzard ready checks can suck my balls
13:40.10[Ammo]grrr
13:40.20[Ammo]coding what?
13:40.48nevcairieli wanted to do some stuff on bartender, and some minor addons i create for myself and some friends
13:40.57[Ammo]ah ok
13:41.44nevcairieli created a doublewide'ish addon during BC beta, but never released it anywhere, now iriel beat me to it :P
13:42.14nevcairiel(main reason i didnt release it, i "stole" EQL3 gfx)
13:42.26[Ammo]haha
13:44.02[Ammo]I need to get my head around some more coding meh
13:44.22[Ammo]and quit fiddling making frames look bettert
13:44.29nevcairielhehe
13:45.13[Ammo]at least I managed to keep my current thing below 1000 lines still..
13:45.36nevcairielwell now that i cant actually play till monday ( poor me, why the weekend :o - when i catch that bastard that logged on my char and send my stuff away ), i might actually get some stuff done
13:48.46Loki|muhckknight: is there somewhere a little readme for dogchow? it shows me slot5 of my druid-bear-form and it can't figure out how to change it.
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13:53.33echosThis shit is insane I've got my 3rd gold tell from the same company within a 45 min period
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13:54.20Loki|muhyeah that sucks
13:54.22echosgold tells++
13:54.26echosat 4 now
13:54.30echossame company
13:54.45echos5
13:54.49Loki|muhlol
13:55.25[Ammo]echos: use scm and love it
13:55.58[Ammo]no goldspam
13:55.58echosi will give me a min
13:55.58echosjust don't have much time to do thing while raiding
13:58.55echosSCM works with Prat right?
14:01.33[Ammo]scm replaces prat
14:02.03[Ammo]for me it does
14:02.06echosoh?
14:02.15echosis prat discontinued?
14:02.53[Ammo]no
14:03.42[Ammo]scm adds timestamps, mousescrolling, editbar moving, playernames by class etc
14:03.48[Ammo]with a simple .lua config file
14:03.52Daemonaanyone ever thought about cartographer_ding ?
14:04.05[Ammo]and a tiny memory footprint
14:04.27Daemonading when a yellow dot appears on the minimap :X
14:04.48kenlyricdoes blizzard take suggestions for unitIDs?
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14:05.01kenlyricwtb LuckCharmSkull, etc unitIDs :)
14:05.24kenlyric*LuckyCharmSkull
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14:18.03echosHey ammo I keep getting an error with SCM
14:18.04echosError:  attempt to call method 'Disable' (a nil value)
14:18.04echosAddOn: SimpleChatMods
14:18.04echosFile: myconfig.lua
14:18.04echosLine: 43
14:18.04echoscount: 1
14:18.12echos-- SCM_TIMESTAMP_FORMAT = "%X"
14:18.12echos-- SCM_TIMESTAMP_COLOR = "777777"
14:18.12echos-- SCM_TIMESTAMP_OUTPUT_FORMAT = "(%s)|r %s"
14:18.12echosscmTimestamps:Disable()
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14:19.54hastepastebin :(
14:21.14CIA-1803rabbit * r29815 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua: BigWigs: Gruul: Fix silence_trigger frFR from alderick.
14:21.17Srosh~seen antiarc
14:21.45purlantiarc <n=Chris@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 47m 45s ago, saying: 'Hm. Maybe a conflict between Cola and Sanity's tooltip stuff'.
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14:30.35Punkie`echoes: recomment out that line and just delete the timestamps lua, i dont think scmTimestamps:Disable() is actually in the timestamps module itself :o
14:30.38Punkie`-e
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14:42.21FinSCM != Prat, and SCM doesn't replace it - it's just an alternate chat mod package that does provides a subset of Prat's features
14:42.37Finit's smaller and lighter and some people prefer it
14:42.55knarfI like Prat
14:42.58nevcairielwho needs all the stuff prat offers anway
14:43.11FinI don't know
14:43.16Finwhy don't you do a survey?
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14:43.34nevcairielwhat do i care :D
14:43.38Finyou asked :P
14:43.47Finheh
14:44.15Fincygwin is just amazing, it really is
14:44.53Stephmw;)
14:44.58FinI've got pretty much everything a real server has, I can ssh to localhost, X is running, kde, screen, apache, mysql
14:45.02Finit's nifty
14:45.31Stephmwwine runs wow out of the box these days... but sound is still an issue
14:45.41hasteIt's Wine not WINE :)
14:45.44nevcairielsounds a bit like vista
14:45.50NickenyfikenWoW performance in Linux on my computer sucks :-/
14:45.50nevcairielworks good, except sound :P
14:45.55FISKER_QI tried wine
14:46.00FISKER_Qi like beer better
14:46.06FISKER_QOLOLOL amirite?
14:46.08NickenyfikenI have tried whine
14:46.15hasteStephmw: you still have to do disable an extension to get good performance under opengl however
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14:46.45hasteand there are various other tricks you can do to get better performance :)
14:46.50Stephmwhaste: I didn't get much of a change with that unfortunately
14:46.52mitch0speaking of ololol, that npc in nagrand lololol is funny
14:47.07FISKER_Q:o?
14:47.51Stephmwhaste: 60-70fps indoors and 30-40fps outside, occasional stutter when big new textures are loaded
14:48.06nevcairieldoesnt sound too bad
14:48.27Stephmwit's great - save for sound :)
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14:48.39hasteI play with -nosound anyway :)
14:48.47nevcairielhehe
14:48.49kagarosound is overrated
14:48.57nevcairieli couldnt play without in game sound
14:48.57hasteand I get about 130 FPS in shattered halls at least
14:48.58Stephmwas a mage I use sounds extensively ;)
14:50.37nevcairielin pvp, i suck when i dont hear sounds .. its always funny when i listen to music, and i dont get anything done, then i turn it off, and better :D
14:50.46mitch0Stephmw: have you been to mana tombs?
14:50.47nevcairieldont ask me why
14:50.59knarfI don't use sounds in wow :>
14:51.11knarfin an fps I could understand, but in wow?, nahhh
14:51.35mitch0sounds are nice (except elf areas, those give me the creeps)
14:51.55Janaihello guys (and girls)... hmm, i have a bit of a problem. i'm writing an addon for a uni essay (don't ask, it's a good idea) and i kinda ran into a problem and i have to fix it today. i'm basically trying to read the general channel and scan it for LFG-messages and when i find one i use DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() to add my message. this worked great when i tested the addon by using whispers, but when i changed the event from listening to w
14:51.55Janaihispers to CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL it now adds the message 7 times... any ideas why?
14:52.06knarfwell I'm not using sounds to navigate, except for raiding ^^
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14:53.32Stephmwmitch0: not yet, I'm taking my time reaching 70 :)
14:54.11mitch0Stephmw: you'll hate it :)
14:54.11StephmwJanai: at a guess, your addon is responding to its own output?
14:54.56mitch0Stephmw: there are "spots" (sometime pretty big areas actually) in mana tombs where sound is bugged, and all is silent
14:55.03mitch0I really hated that
14:55.25JoshBorkeJanai: have you tried using DevTools to help?
14:55.28JoshBorke~devtools
14:55.29purlIriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at   http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999  Why isn't it in the default client yet?
14:57.43mitch0I hit 70 yesterday in nagrand with like 20 quests still on my questlog...
14:58.16mitch0btw, is it known how much additional gold one gets for quests completed at max level? (when you don't get xp any more)
14:58.27JoshBorkemitch0: wowhead usually says how much
14:58.35JoshBorkeand when you accept the quest it tells you how much gold you'll get
14:58.50mitch0I know, but it "blurs" it with the original reward money
14:59.05mitch0you only see one amount, I was just wondering how significant the bonus is
14:59.34nevcairieli bet the forumal is on WoWI somewhere for xp -> money
14:59.50nevcairiels/forumal/formula/
15:00.23knarfmitch0 wowhead tells you how much g you get at 70 :>
15:00.38nevcairieleh, WoWWiki i meant
15:00.44nevcairielkinda confused today :D
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15:01.29mitch0"The exchange rate seems to be 10 copper for each XP that the quest would otherwise have given;"
15:01.55nevcairielso 1000 XP = 1gold
15:02.06mitch0that sounds nice
15:02.13mitch0go go flying mount ;)
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15:02.41mitch0to bad leveling enchanting takes away all my money ;)
15:03.01mitch0s/t\(o\)/&\1/
15:03.26mitch0har har, purl couldn't cope with that :)
15:08.49mitch0is purl perl?
15:09.08Ordogpurl, what are you?
15:09.10purlI am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot>
15:09.21ilifinpurl blootbot?
15:09.23purlblootbot is, like, an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot
15:09.47mitch0let's try perl's sytnax then, to
15:09.57mitch0s/t(o)/$&$1/
15:10.09mitch0nah, doesn't work :(
15:11.16ilifinthis sentence has a lot of e's since it's an awesome e sentence
15:11.20ilifins/e/a/
15:11.33ilifindang, forgot the g
15:11.56CIA-18ow
15:12.53CIA-1803ammo * r29817 10SimpleChatMods/ (SimpleChatMods.toc urlcopy.lua): SimpleChatMods: simple urlcopy module
15:14.17Silviu-~hug [Ammo]
15:14.19purlACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs [Ammo]
15:14.19knarf^http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/downloads/list <-- how on earth do you make sense what his mods do :P
15:15.14knarf^http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Voices_From_Beyond Where did that mod go? :<
15:15.54abbat_wmake you insane i think ;)
15:16.16abbat_w'you friends will abandon you' or something like maybe? :)
15:16.59JoshBorkeknarf^: you don't
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15:18.54Grollis there any general /command to reset all ace2 addons back to default state?
15:19.30abbat_w/rl
15:19.39chutwigdeltree c:\program files\world of warcraft\WTF :s
15:19.40Grollya right :P
15:19.41abbat_wah, no, not to default state
15:19.52Grollheh oke.. removing wtf then :P
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15:34.16knarf^Tekkub http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Voices_From_Beyond is that around any more? :>
15:36.00CIA-1803rabbit * r29818 10SimpleChatMods/urlcopy.lua: SimpleChatMods: urlcopy: Fixes.
15:36.18xyuare there different coord. systems around?  every single coordinates i get from thot, ala, etc. are always about 10y or so off.
15:36.27xyuyet they claim to have been "on top" of the objective
15:36.39xyuand i'm talking every single coord ever given.  i haven't had one perfect yet
15:36.56nevcairieldunno. thott and ala coords usually hit the spot for me.
15:37.03xyuhm
15:37.03[dRaCo]most of them are just integers
15:37.24Gngskwowhead uses floats
15:37.29xyuthat's true but these are around 10 or so yards away
15:37.36xyufloats?
15:37.51knarf^x.x
15:37.57xyuoh
15:38.25knarf^a integer is without the decimal :)
15:38.29knarf^an*
15:38.47[dRaCo]I don't know how much 1 coordinate is in yards... anybody?
15:38.49xyui took math i just don't recall the term float
15:39.12knarf^well in programming there is floats and decimal as far as I remember
15:39.14hasteI don't think you use "floats" in maths
15:39.24nevcairielfloat is more a programming term
15:39.25Gngskfloats refers to the way it's stored in memory
15:39.35hasteanswers!
15:39.39xyuah ok.  that'd be where i became a lamen.
15:39.54knarf^haste
15:40.01hasteknarf^
15:40.05Gngskhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point
15:40.05knarf^gief answer about Voices From Beyond ^^
15:40.10xyui took like half a semester of C++ and i didn't even make it through it before i decided this isn't what i want :P
15:40.26JoshBorkeknarf^: ask tek :-P
15:40.29CIA-1803ammo * r29819 10SimpleChatMods/urlcopy.lua: SimpleChatMods: remove redundant aceconsole mixin, was only used for debug.
15:40.30hasteknarf^: voices from beyond?
15:40.34knarf^http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Voices_From_Beyond :P
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15:42.02knarf^Maybe I should write
15:42.06hastewhy would I have an answer about it :o ?
15:42.17knarf^haste your like | | this with Tekkub :P
15:42.28CartasHeyy... I'm like || with Tekkub.
15:42.42hastehehe
15:42.48hasteCan't you ask him yourself :) ?
15:43.10knarf^I did, he seems idle :P
15:43.25CartasTekkub is never idle.
15:43.34CartasHe's extremely busy, I bet.
15:43.36knarf^Did I say he was idle? :P
15:43.43CartasYou said he seemed it.
15:43.46CartasHe doesn't even come close to seeming it!
15:43.51Silviu-[Ammo] about channel module, will u add General replaced by 1 Trade 2 etc ? ;)
15:44.02grzesieqlol, how retarded. had laboratories from the programming and data structures in c class. the "teacher" told me that I can't use variable names like c, i etc.
15:44.18knarf^sure you can?
15:44.22grzesieqproblem is I used it like c = getchar() and for(i=1...
15:44.32knarf^not that readable, but should not be a problem
15:44.34CartasEveryone uses i in for loops, pretty much :P
15:44.42grzesieqwe can't :s
15:44.45knarf^rofl
15:44.48krkathat's stupid
15:44.49CartasJust use ii
15:44.53grzesieqno
15:44.56Cartasiii
15:44.59[Ammo]Silviu-: you can do that yourself
15:45.21grzesieqI have to use like SpacesFillerIterator instead of i
15:45.27knarf^Hmm would competition fuck up 2 raids running sidebyside?
15:45.38grzesieqand he suggested characterToBeRead instead of c ^^
15:45.49knarf^grzesieq meaningfull variable names, YAY
15:45.50[Ammo]Silviu-: see the SCM_CHANNELNAMES_REGEXPS in myconfig.lua
15:45.57[Ammo]Silviu-: fix them however you want
15:45.57Silviu-Ok thx
15:46.01knarf^but everyone knows what you use I for ... :E
15:46.36knarf^how does that s// bot work? :>
15:47.07krkathe importance of the variables name is related to 1) the size of its scope and 2) the complexity of the code in the scope
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15:47.48grzesieqit was the detab program from the ansi c book :P
15:47.49knarf^nested for loops where you use, i,x,j as iterator names is finny :>
15:47.54grzesieqlike 50 lines of code max
15:48.12knarf^s/finny/funny
15:48.21knarf^damn I suck :<
15:49.18JoshBorkeyou forgot the /
15:49.42knarf^s/damn/damn, /
15:50.13JoshBorketoo many spaces ;-)
15:50.29[Ammo]for k,v in pairs( t ) do
15:50.32[Ammo]key value table
15:51.01knarf^Is AutoIt Fishing considered botting? :P
15:52.39[Ammo]do you have to click stuff to fish?
15:53.14knarf^depends :)
15:53.30[Ammo]ah autoit...
15:53.32[Ammo]it's probably botting
15:53.41[Ammo]using a 3rd party clicking programming :p
15:54.03knarf^how about me just needing to press a button for it to find the bobber and click it then? :P
15:54.25knarf^Ah well, I won't risk it, i'm too fond of my account :)
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15:55.26[Ammo]fishing is something you do while watching your new episode of series X
15:56.33knarf^i'm not following that many series
15:56.36knarf^:<
15:56.53hasteX TV was rather good tho'
15:57.14knarf^Should I know that? :P
15:57.21[Ammo]I found X the movie the best
15:57.40hastehttp://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=30 << X TV
15:57.45hasteit explains the movie basically
15:58.23knarf^I only watch Heroes theese days
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16:01.48Tokuseiis WAU Link down for anyone else ;(?
16:02.25haste~wau
16:02.31purlwau is, like, WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.
16:02.33art3misautoit is techniaclly botting however you generally wont catch flack for it if 1. you dont leave it running for 3 days over the weekend while you're no-where close to the computer  and 2. it's not in and instance((like av) 3. you're there to reply to whispers occassionally(thers a mod that beeps when you get a message from players or gms)
16:02.47hastethat one Tokusei ?
16:02.52Tokuseithe download link is down, for me :/
16:03.07Tokuseihttp://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wowaceupdater/WowAceUpdater-1.7-final-bin.zip
16:03.23hasteyou can choose other servers
16:03.37kenlyriclol
16:03.42kenlyricart3mis: that's true of all bots :)
16:03.59kenlyricdoesn't mean they can't eventually programmatically detect them.
16:03.59Tokusei._. I fail
16:04.00kenlyrictrust me on this one :)
16:04.06knarf^art3mis well i'm fond of fishing I just forget to click the bobber sometimes :P
16:04.58art3mishehe well thats the great thing about autoit
16:05.09SarozCartographer needs an _cleanup module to fix all the nodes that have ended up as doublicates
16:05.16art3missince its actually a windows scripting program and not a wow related bot creator they cant really detect it
16:05.35art3miswithout using a complete rootkit to monitor you and then that opens them up to a nice hacking civil suit
16:05.35hasteInstall Linux, makes botting easier
16:05.38knarf^art3mis I think they can detect other programs sending clicks to the windows api :>
16:05.58art3misnope it registers the clicks as coming from the mouse not the program
16:06.22art3misas far as wow is concerned you're just playing in windows mode while doing other things
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16:06.42knarf^Stop tempting me ^^
16:06.42knarf^:P
16:06.47art3misits great fun too
16:06.57art3misits also marginally limited
16:07.00kenlyricall bots are undetectable until they are detected :)
16:07.00knarf^I got a diablo2 bot to do runs :>
16:07.08knarf^on LAN :P
16:07.10art3misthats not to say you couldnt make a grinding bot from it with ease though ;)
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16:07.22knarf^model replacement !
16:07.35art3misken it's about as "bottish for detection" as having your little brother play ;)
16:07.40kenlyricfishing botting is a gateway drug.
16:07.56art3misheh i stopped when i realized i could "script farm"
16:08.03art3miswith no real effort on my part
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16:08.18knarf^stopped wow, or botting? :P
16:08.20Tornhoofyou can't detect bots 100%
16:08.26art3misplaying with auto-it
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16:08.40art3misafter i had my fish bot working 100%
16:08.53Silviu-[Ammo] SCM ownz :/ thx for it ^^
16:08.57kenlyricTornhoof: luckily, they don't actually have to be 100% sure. Since they don't really care if you protest :)
16:09.02art3misit used to add lures cast loot, discard crappy fish and keep only stonescale eels ;P
16:09.07Tornhoofyah
16:09.09[Ammo]Silviu-: thank industrial :p
16:09.14[Ammo]it's idChat revived
16:09.15vhaarrYeah, don't thank me.
16:09.24[Ammo]oh and rabbit who revived it
16:09.27hasteyou know
16:09.31art3misscm?
16:09.33[Ammo]don't thank teh ammo
16:09.34hasteidChat spawned prat also
16:09.40haste*gasps*
16:09.42[Ammo]oh noes
16:09.56Punkie`you know
16:10.01Punkie`that was obvious
16:10.04knarf^So whats up with SCM? and why not use Prat? :)
16:10.11art3misoh in the forums screenshot thread
16:10.23art3miswhat cooldown timer is that guy on page 58 using?
16:10.36art3misthe one that has good timers on one side of the map and bad timers on the other?
16:10.45Silviu-vhaarr btw, u know that the new module pops an error ?
16:10.47art3misi use phanzchat
16:10.55vhaarrSilviu-: when?
16:11.02vhaarrSilviu-: and did you update?
16:11.04art3misthey're just simple chat string replacements instead of the bloated thing prat is ;P
16:11.09art3miserr phanxchat
16:11.10Silviu-When i hower over tooltip
16:11.19Silviu-Yes
16:11.37Silviu-I mean for Violation
16:11.44Silviu-Sorry, forgot to say the addon :/
16:11.46vhaarrah lol
16:11.47[Ammo]hahaha
16:11.52vhaarrSilviu-: Pastey me the error, please.
16:11.56Silviu-Ok sec
16:11.57vhaarrSilviu-: Then blame ag :)
16:12.21shieldbso 300 was pretty enjoyable
16:12.41shieldbI'm very disappointed that there isn't really anything to threaten to spoil for people, though
16:12.44art3missee it in imax?
16:12.52shieldbnah, just a regular theater
16:13.04art3miswell for those that don't know you can tell em the spartans lose ;P
16:13.15art3misbadly
16:13.23shieldbyeah, they also stab some persians
16:13.30[Ammo]ah man!
16:13.43[Ammo]same thing happened before I went to the titanic! I stood in line, and they tell me it sinks!
16:13.46[Ammo]bastards!
16:13.53shieldb[Ammo], Snape kills Dumbledore!
16:14.00[Ammo]oh noes
16:14.05art3misheh oe review i read for it a little bit ago said all the fight scenes were "erotic slo-mo roid raged blood fueled fantasies for perverts"
16:14.27Grollart3mis sounds great then :P
16:14.30art3misi know
16:14.31shieldbyeah some of them were kinda weird
16:14.37art3misthat alone would have made me wanna see it
16:15.16art3misand all i could say as a thought response was "if you didnt like sin city you wont like this or frank miller so go suck a hot poker"
16:15.30Proph_Antiarc|Work: sure wanna set it up for our guild?
16:15.50shieldbthe movie wasn't as long as I thought it was going to be - I didn't check the running time before I went but it seemed like only a little over an hour
16:15.57art3miswelp time to wander to the office, bi bi
16:16.07shieldbhour and a half-ish, rather
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16:17.50Punkie`its true :( http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4184/3oic4fsngv53nxdzpxffy26zi6.jpg
16:18.26FISKER_QFUCK YOU Punkie`
16:18.31FISKER_QI hadn't read it yet
16:18.54shieldbPunkie`, I find the video of the guy spoiling it pretty amusing
16:19.28shieldbsome guy did a drive by snape kills dumbledore yelling deal at a borders somewhere during the midnight book release
16:20.17Punkie`http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/794/kp7wdfokmoghqx23z3g763ryv5.jpg
16:20.17FISKER_QNOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU BITCH
16:21.19trhPunkie`: that news article would have been funny if they'd mentioned that snape killed dumbledore
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16:25.06knarf^http://shufflr.com/?p=284 <--- what the hell
16:25.22Punkie`haha trh :D
16:25.56kenlyricRosebud is his sled. There, I just saved you two boring hours.
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16:26.25knarf^stop ze spoilage :<
16:27.03trhawesome.. hp scanjets have a nice feature in the firmware called play music: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,470862,00.html
16:27.11trh(just click play on the video :)
16:27.11Punkie`ollddddd
16:28.56knarf^http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBODQV3ofdA&NR
16:29.07Tornhoofthat's known for like a decade
16:29.12knarf^Some ppl know how to paint :>
16:29.24trhTornhoof: ya, but the videos are nice :)
16:32.11Punkie`http://www.tallage.co.uk/upload/sebspeakerwg2.jpg
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16:33.59knarf^http://utterwizardry.com/angwe/quotes.htm
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16:36.44trhknarf^: sounds like he really camped some people ^^
16:36.56knarf^true :P
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16:39.11cncfanaticsHello all :)
16:39.25Gngskhi
16:40.35cncfanatics_, _, _, cX, cY = Member.Frame:GetPoint("TOPLEFT"); how can cX or cY ever be nil ? anyone know ?
16:40.50trhcncfanatics: frame point not set?
16:41.04cncfanaticstrh, they are set
16:41.33trhcncfanatics: then it's just one of the mysteries you never understand but just work aroun
16:41.34trhd
16:42.02cncfanaticstrh, I hate that :p
16:42.32Grollhttp://stage6.divx.com/members/513763/videos/1146067 that's more like it :D
16:42.33trhcncfanatics: i got something like that to with the guild roster... if i read a entry out of it, why in hell would ne name be nil? :)
16:43.02cncfanaticstrh, true, same here, sucks
16:43.07cncfanaticsgonna do some tests though
16:43.07knarf^http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELRNZCZtLvs amazing
16:43.31deltronhttp://www.westword.com/2007-03-08/news/the-legend-of-leeroy-jenkins/ <-- awesome read
16:43.51knarf^btw I meant to post : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElrldD02if0 that as drawing skills not the darn dodge viper
16:43.51knarf^:P
16:44.21Punkie`ahahhaha, http://utterwizardry.com/angwe/quotes_files/19.jpg
16:44.25Punkie`awesomeness
16:45.41cncfanaticstrh, now it doesn't bug anymore all of sudden -.-
16:45.56trhcncfanatics: ya, but murphys law tells, that it will on a different computer =)
16:46.05cncfanaticstrh, true
16:46.08cncfanaticsoh, now it did again
16:46.12cncfanaticsI think I found the cause too
16:51.52deltronPunkie`: hahaha
16:52.09cncfanaticstrh, FIXED ! :)
16:53.56CIA-1803cncfanatics * r29820 10FlexBar2/ButtonEventHandler.lua: FlexBar2: Fixed a bug where dragging a button would spit errors under certain conditions
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16:57.05trhcncfanatics: you wish :P
16:57.48cncfanaticstrh, its fixed, but there's another error now -.-
16:58.12trhcncfanatics: you should have gone with the if ~=nil fix... :)
16:58.21cncfanaticsit ain't that
16:58.25xyusomething is strange. i dont have many addons installed but my addon mem is at like 65mb.  o_O
16:58.26cncfanaticsit won't ever return nil anymore
16:58.37cncfanaticsxyu, the default blizz UI takes mem too
16:58.43xyuinitial is like 39mb. which is quite a lot higher than i'm used to.
16:58.49xyui know . but 70megs?
16:58.57Silviu-;))
16:59.07Silviu-i start at 24
16:59.14xyui used to
16:59.25xyui should load up warmup and see who's the culprit
16:59.34deltroni set mine to 100mb :P
16:59.36xyuit's probably cartographer w/ my 1 zillion objective notes.
17:00.13Silviu-Mine is at 0
17:00.58shieldbSilviu-, 0mb for your ui? As in "alt-f4 is my garbage collection" ? :)
17:02.02Silviu-It garbage collects around 40
17:03.29chuckgHow do I figure what texture this icon is? http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=37378
17:03.47shieldbSpell_Shadow_ShadowandFlame
17:04.06shieldbcheck whatever the path is for the icon that it's using
17:04.15shieldbthat one is http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/Spell_Shadow_ShadowandFlame.jpg
17:04.42shieldbthottbot tries to be tricky by setting the icon as the table cell background
17:04.58chuckgBastards.
17:04.59chuckg:)
17:05.00chuckgTHanks.
17:05.17shieldbso you can either view source or something for it, or just get a firefox addon or somesuch that gives you a "view background image" right click option
17:05.51cncfanaticshmmm, is it possible to tell table.remove to not reindex a table ?
17:05.59cncfanaticsreindexing it would mess up my addon
17:06.51cncfanaticssomeone ?
17:07.24nevcairieljust set the index = nil ?
17:07.29Elkano\o/ timer bars decreasing from left to right for EBB ^^
17:07.55pastamancerElkano: did you hack it up with a couple of textures?
17:07.56cncfanaticsnevcairiel, its stuff in the savedvars, won't that still make WoW save the var ?
17:08.10Elkanoyes ^^
17:08.25shieldbElkano, but when do we get vertical bars?
17:08.34nevcairielcncfanatics: it will always save it, or it will be re-indexed.
17:08.36pastamancerhaha
17:08.40nevcairielor you make it a hash-table.
17:08.40cncfanaticsnevcairiel, ok
17:08.49cncfanaticsthe type of the table depends on the user -.-
17:08.52CIA-1803fenlis * r29821 10AceDruidBar/ (AceDruidBar-koKR.lua AceDruidBar.toc):
17:08.52CIA-18AceDruidBar:
17:08.52CIA-18- Added localization koKR by turtl.
17:08.58cncfanaticsit can be a hash table if the user uses real names for their buttons
17:09.01shieldbI need my buff bars to fill backwards at a 35deg. angle!
17:09.05cncfanaticsor a regular table if the user uses numbers
17:09.07shieldb:P
17:09.10cncfanaticsguess nil'ing it is good enough
17:09.26nevcairielstore the numbers as a string too, and force it a hash table
17:09.31nevcairieleasy solution imo
17:09.50Elkanoshieldb, I think you won't... to little space for the strings ;)
17:09.52cncfanaticsnevcairiel, might do that
17:10.02cncfanaticshow to go number > string ?
17:10.22pastamancer("%d"):format(number)
17:10.39pastamanceror even easier
17:10.41nevcairieltostring?
17:10.43pastamancertostring(number)
17:10.45nevcairielhehe
17:10.55Elkanonumber..""? ;)
17:11.19Elkanobut tostring is most likely the best, yeah
17:11.24pastamancertostring doesn't check to see if it's a number though
17:11.39cncfanaticspastamancer, doesn't matter, I want everything to be a string :p
17:13.34CIA-1803cncfanatics * r29822 10FlexBar2/ (ButtonEventHandler.lua Core.lua):
17:13.34CIA-18FlexBar2:
17:13.34CIA-18- Added a :Destroy(); method in the core to remove buttons from the saved profile
17:13.34CIA-18- Changed the way buttons are saved, it is now always in a hash table. This may cause problems with old profiles. please reset if you get weird errors with :Destroy();
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17:18.12kergothhmm, the violation petdps module isnt doing anything at all on my hunter
17:18.25kergothnot showing any numbers, and it looks like it may be totaling my pet dps in my dps instead
17:19.11vhaarrkergoth: That's jjsheets work, I have not checked it myself.
17:19.19[SH]ShabadorAnyone know of some kind of macro or mod that extends macros, to be able to check if a target is afflicted with X debuff (deadly poison in my case) and then use Eviscerate if it's not and Envenom if it is.
17:19.22kergothk
17:19.29kergoth[SH]Shabador: not possible.
17:19.44cncfanatics[SH]Shabador: not possible since TBC
17:19.45kergoththats exactly the kind of thing blizzard prevented us from doing intentionally
17:20.33[SH]ShabadorAh, kk. But I guess it would be kind of possible with the use of some simple macro, as envenom won't be used if there is no poisons on the target.
17:20.54kergothwell, that wont do much good
17:21.01kergothif you have one charge of deadly on the target, you dont want to envenom
17:21.04kergothitll be a waste of energy
17:21.16[SH]ShabadorI won't be using eviscerate either then.
17:21.31kergothhm?
17:21.42kergothif i have 5 combo points, i evis, whether i yet have 5 deadly poison charges or not.
17:22.06Gngskpfft, slice and dice for the win
17:22.11kergothhehe
17:22.13hasteenvenom will remove the deadly poisons stacsk tho', thus removing dps from you again
17:22.25hasteGngsk: mutilate specs kinda want find weakness alos
17:22.32[SH]ShabadorWhen I have 5 combo points, I usually have 5 deadly poisons on. So then it's envenom for the win. (Also use a lot of snd and expose armor)
17:22.39kergoths&d gives find weakness too..
17:22.48hasteonly for ten seconds :)
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17:23.05Diabolic-Destinywuttup
17:23.07hasteyou want to have find weakness and SnD running all the time
17:23.27CIA-1803cncfanatics * r29823 10FlexBar2/ButtonEventHandler.lua: FlexBar2: - Added a SquareGroup function for grouping (drycoded: needs testing)
17:26.29Gngskso many rare spawns in azeroth
17:26.34Gngsknobody around to kill 'em
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17:26.44fatbrainany dest-locks in here?
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17:34.05Amadeokergoth: With kEnergy displaying the combo points and energy numbers, I'm getting an extra 0 by the combo point number each time the bar fills...it's only there for a split second though
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17:36.32Diabolic-Destinyguys i have a question regarding simpleMinimap
17:36.39Diabolic-Destinythe mover never rembers teh location of the Cap Timer
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17:38.43kergothAmadeo: yeah i saw that too, i'm pretty sure its a candybar bug.  i provide a function that returns the formatted time, right, but for a split second the bar is drawn witht he default time format.. (my time format function just returns '')
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17:39.03kergotheither that or i'm misusing it in some fashion, i'll investigate further and report it
17:39.22Toku`Anyone know the font names of the fonts to put in \font do change the login fonts :(?
17:40.29[Ammo]kergoth: euh?
17:40.39[Ammo]I think the bar is initialized with 00:00
17:40.42[Ammo]that might be the problem
17:41.01kergothah.  yeah, i had set hte format string, but when starting the bar over again it displays 0 for a sec
17:41.07kergoths/string/string function/
17:41.33[Ammo]yeah I see it
17:41.36[Ammo]fixing that for you
17:41.42kergoththanks :)
17:42.09CIA-1803ammo * r29826 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar: Kergoth's special commit.
17:42.22kergothooh, special.
17:42.28[Ammo]yarr :p
17:42.33kergoth:)
17:44.07Ominouswhats that do?
17:44.31[Ammo]it eliminates the power 0 had over kergoth
17:44.34kergothhe fixed a teeny candybar bug seen in kenergy, look up
17:46.46Amadeoas usual, not really game breaking bugs, just pointing em out :)
17:48.23AmadeoNew MSBT
17:49.30AmadeoAre there any Ace2 addons that are equivalent to StunWatch?
17:50.53kergothchronometer works for that
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17:51.11Amadeoworks for me :)
17:51.13kergothAmadeo: i appreciate the reports on kenergy.. i think its functionally almost where it needs to be, so finishing touches are always good
17:51.27AmadeoYeah, it works great, seems very accurate
17:51.46Skrullare the TOC dependancies exposed to WoW's implimenation of lua?  (e.g. can you add more dependances from within the lua itself?)
17:52.00nevcairielyou can read the values
17:52.03nevcairielbut not change.
17:52.04cncfanaticsSkrull, why would you want to do that ?
17:52.33Amadeokergoth: Any other Roguish addons you recommend? :)
17:52.37SkrullBecause of the OO implimentation I'm doing 30 lines of code to do multiple inheritance
17:53.20Skrullbut it really needs the 'includes'/'requires' to be in the TOC
17:54.26kergothAmadeo: errormonster, chronometer or similar, hemlock or atropine.. thats all i use, rogue wise..  i know some people use those fubar plugins for poison application reminders and such, but i dont (yet anyway)
17:54.42Antiarc|WorkGood lord @_@
17:54.50Antiarc|WorkPeople are hammering my armory tools
17:54.57kergothhehe
17:55.00Antiarc|WorkI had 14 emails related to it in my inbox this morning
17:55.00shieldbkergoth, oh man, <3 hemlock
17:55.06Antiarc|Work4 PMs at Elitist Jerks
17:55.09Antiarc|WorkPlus 3 IMs
17:55.12AmadeoI don't think I need reminders..I'm guessing ErrorMonster stops the "You don't have enough Energy" spam?
17:55.20kergothyeah
17:55.23shieldbI just wish the blizzard tradeskill interface deal wasn't stupid and screwed it up all the time
17:55.24Saint-Nand yet you still found time to cyber me
17:55.27Saint-Nhow sweet
17:55.28Antiarc|WorkHaha
17:55.30Antiarc|WorkI am rather pleased that Hemlock has stayed working as well as it has :D
17:55.46Saint-Nshieldb: ATSW
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17:55.52Saint-Nthats all ya need ;P
17:56.15Funkeh`heya
17:56.18nevcairielATSW is screwed up too
17:56.23Saint-Nsince when?
17:56.24nevcairielthe queue bugs all the time
17:56.26Saint-Nmine works fine
17:56.38SkrullBTW, what do you guys use to test the memory use and/or effiency of your Addons?
17:56.50nevcairielnothing
17:56.57shieldbthe problem is that if you set another tradeskill to filter by category (i.e. I go to jewelcrafting and filter it to just gems) then when I go to poisons, it's also filtered to just gems (so an empty list, poisons don't have a gem subcategory) and hemlock gets a nil error when it tries to parse the poison list to make/buy stuff
17:56.57vhaarrnothing indeed
17:56.59Saint-Nblackwing lair ;P
17:57.24kergothi use stitch for the queue, and reverseengineering to jump around to components.. i found that sufficient to replace atsw, along with atropine/hemlock.. though cgcrafty helps too
17:57.26nevcairielif you know some stuff about coding, you can see if a code actually uses alot of memory
17:57.27nevcairielor not.
17:57.27Saint-Nshieldb: ahhh thats because of the local caching it does now
17:57.40Saint-Njust gotta click on something and it fixes itself
17:57.46shieldbright
17:57.48SkrullI'm talking about full optimization
17:57.53shieldbit's easy enough to work around, but still obnoxious :)
17:58.05Saint-Nheh yeah but its loads better than blizz's ;)
17:58.20Saint-Nspecially for those "unsorted" trades like chanting
17:58.24nevcairielread the PiL part about performance and memory usage :)
17:59.02shieldbSaint-N, enchanting is decently sorted now, but still a pain to work with
17:59.02SkrullThanks nev, I'm not new to coding, just new to Lua
17:59.03shieldbI really love the "only show stuff you have mats for
17:59.33nevcairielor wait until 2.1.0, and try the new memory and cpu statistics
17:59.36Saint-Ni like the searching
17:59.53Saint-Nand the ability to quickly sort based on difficulty for leveling
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18:00.10Saint-Nchanting is sorted now?
18:00.13Saint-Nas default?
18:00.21Saint-Nlike gloves bracers rods weapons etc?
18:00.36shieldbthere's a dropdown to sort it by category like other tradeskills
18:00.53Saint-Noh, heh i havent used default since about 1.4 ;P
18:00.55shieldbcategories being what piece it enchants and then one for created items
18:00.57SkrullI'd like to put this up for RFC soon when I get further.  Thanks for the answers!
18:01.11Skrull<-Exit stage left
18:01.11Saint-Noh THAT
18:01.16Saint-Nyeah i remember that briefly
18:01.21Saint-Nfriggin retarded
18:01.32Saint-Ni dont see why they didnt just mkake it like all the other trades
18:01.48Saint-Nor course tailoring needsa sort as well
18:01.53Saint-N2 spots
18:01.56Saint-Nwell 3
18:02.14Saint-N1. bags 2. crap thats boe and you can sell 3. everything elses you'll never use
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18:09.08Silviu-hidden*
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18:27.43CIA-1803hyperactiveChipmunk * r29827 10Talismonger-3.0/Talismonger-3.0/Talismonger-3.0.lua:
18:27.43CIA-18Talismonger-3.0:
18:27.43CIA-18-(hC) Added support for Extract Gas
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18:29.17CIA-1803hyperactiveChipmunk * r29828 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/:
18:29.17CIA-18Cartographer_ExtractGas:
18:29.17CIA-18- Cartographer gathering module for the Extract Gas ability
18:29.21Diabolic-Destinywhere does one get the key to shattered halls/
18:29.43knarf^a quest
18:29.45kebinusanQuest starts with a drop from a blacksmith in front of the black temple
18:29.45stonyruehiho, have a problem with ag_uf, somebody there to help me? ^^
18:29.49Elkanohmm Violation is definatly broken :/
18:29.55Diabolic-Destinyah so in shadowmoon?
18:29.56NeoTronquest chain that starts off a mob drop in the NW part of outside-black temple
18:30.04NeoTronyes shadowmoon
18:30.09Diabolic-Destinyokay thanks guys
18:31.49stonyruewhy is the background color of the unitframe overlaying my transparent bars underneath the normal bars?
18:32.42stonyruewhat i mean is, it should look like this: http://ultravisuell.de/wow/layer1.jpg but looks like that: http://ultravisuell.de/wow/layer2.jpg
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18:34.28stonyrue...
18:35.03shieldbCartographer_ExtractGas should really be Cartographer_Vespene imo :)
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18:36.28stonyrueseems like nobody can help me
18:36.41haarmextract gas ability, who gets that? engineers?
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18:37.08shieldbhaarm, engineers can build a gas extractor thing at 305 skill that allows them to harvest the gas clouds you'll occasionally see for motes
18:37.32shieldbthere's usually one or two gas clouds in steam vaults behind the mech boss with the gnome mechanics
18:37.33haarmyea i saw the clouds
18:37.40haarmdidnt see the engineer item
18:37.47xyuIsn't there a way to make the clear waypoint range larger?  i'd like it to clear at 15 yards instead of 5.  i remember seeing it somewhere and now ic an't find an option
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18:38.58knarf^Anyone know if Tekkub is still developing Voices From Beyond?
18:39.25Heriois it broken? o.O
18:39.41knarf^Can't find the dl :P
18:40.04HerioI think there is a bigwigs module that will do that... I'm not certain though >.<
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18:40.21nevcairielwell the .toc on svn is outdated
18:40.48HerioVFB isn't in the SVN zip dealie
18:41.27knarf^hmm maybe I Should browse the svn then :P
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18:42.54CIA-1803hyperactiveChipmunk * r29829 10Babble-2.2/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
18:42.54CIA-18Babble-2.2:
18:42.54CIA-18- Added Babble-Gas support for Gas Extractor
18:43.39shieldbhaarm, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23821 if you didn't find that yet
18:44.03haarmi'm not an engineer either though
18:44.45Heriodaaaang
18:44.52Heriomaybe I should have stayed engie ={
18:46.20Heriowell apparently, it's faster to farm mana off mobs then it is to extract it out of clouds =/
18:47.11knarf^i've fished 72 deviate fish now :>
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18:48.33HerioI used to fish like 320 of those a day
18:48.47Heriountil people started botting it and crashed my market
18:49.23knarf^I made an alt once, called Deviate mule
18:49.43knarf^it was back when the deviate deleight could give you all sorts of weird buffs
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18:49.58CIA-1803hyperactiveChipmunk * r29830 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
18:49.58CIA-18Cartographer_ExtractGas:
18:49.58CIA-18- file import
18:50.00knarf^Never got to filling the bank with deviate fish
18:50.01knarf^:<
18:50.13HerioI used to stand in stormwind wearing my tribesman outfit spamming the trade channel =P
18:50.20xyuno one knows how to change the range that waypoint will clear the arrow?
18:50.46sedatedChipmunkopen .lua, change value?
18:51.00sedatedChipmunk>8D
18:51.16xyuthere was an option somewhere.  i woudln't even know where to look in the lua.  ctrl-f "range" ? heh
18:51.57kagarohyperChipmunk: doesnt extract gas cause a UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT ?
18:52.10hyperChipmunkno mouseover
18:52.26FISKER_Qbetter name hyperChipmunk
18:52.31FISKER_QNOW
18:52.51hyperChipmunkyou cast the spell and it targets a nearby cloud and zaps it
18:52.57hyperChipmunklol
18:52.58Elkanogas?
18:53.02kagarohyperChipmunk: jsut a stand in the area thing then?
18:53.06hyperChipmunkyea
18:53.16Elkanodid I miss something?
18:53.23hyperChipmunkthe clouds have UI-detectable presence
18:53.25hyperChipmunker
18:53.28hyperChipmunkno*
18:53.31hyperChipmunkno presence
18:53.45hyperChipmunkyou can't track 'em, you can't mouseover
18:53.56kagaroI dropped engineering before I got a gas extractor so I didnt know how those bad boys worked
18:54.07hyperChipmunkthe arcane vortices cast arcane surge on you, but that's a special case
18:54.23hyperChipmunkbut when you use the extractor, they cast Extract Gas on themselves
18:54.34hyperChipmunki really did try to fit it in =P
18:54.50haarmwhats in an arcane vortex? mana?
18:54.56hyperChipmunkyea
18:55.04hyperChipmunkbut if you walk near them, they pump you with mana
18:55.10hyperChipmunklike 20 mana per second
18:55.20haarmwhat about those poisonous looking gas clouds in shadowmoon?
18:55.25Heriodoes that consume the vortex?
18:55.39hyperChipmunkhaarm: they just float
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18:55.43haarm:P
18:55.45hyperChipmunkHerio: extracting deoes
18:55.48hyperChipmunkdoes*
18:55.52kagarohyperChipmunk: Cartographer:GetModule('Professions').addons[bs["Extract Gas"]] = self  -- remove this line it wont work
18:56.13CIA-1803nevcairiel * r29831 10Bartender3/ (12 files in 3 dirs):
18:56.13CIA-18Bartender3:
18:56.13CIA-18- added Waterfall based GUI ( optional )
18:56.13CIA-18- using the Next AcionBar etc bindings, will no longer work of "Paging" is set to disabled on Bar1.
18:56.43hyperChipmunkkagaro: thanks, i haven't really looked over everything yet
18:56.45kagarothe professions module, LoD loads professions based on you having a skill called x, unless you configure professions to Always load
18:57.05hyperChipmunki just copied Ore and got it to a working state =p
18:57.09kagarogotcha
18:57.36CIA-1803trh * r29832 10VanasKoS/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
18:57.36CIA-18VanasKoS:
18:57.36CIA-18- shows pvp stats in tooltip (can be disabled via configuration option)
18:57.36CIA-18- shows in tooltips all lists on whom someone is, not just the one with the highest priority
18:57.41hyperChipmunkmaybe that's why it doesn't stay loaded
18:57.54nevcairiel[Ammo]: did you ever consider making Waterfall optional in oRA2 ?
18:58.33hyperChipmunkdidn't i set the profession to engineering though?
18:58.36haarmi've not seen waterfall in action yet
18:58.47kagaroyou set it to ExtractGas
18:58.48hyperChipmunkoh hm
18:58.58hyperChipmunkok how DO i set it to load with engineering?
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18:59.27UhuruHi
18:59.37kagaroin the .TOC
18:59.46Uhurusomeone knows the acedruidbar developper ?
19:00.07kagarohmm you set the .TOC to engineering
19:00.35kagaroCartographer:GetModule('Professions').addons[bs["Engineering"]]
19:01.15hyperChipmunkyea, mining just worked because it happened to have the same name?
19:02.31kagaroseems so
19:02.49kagaroim looking at it again in Professions, it *SHOULD* just use the TOC entry
19:03.01Uhurusomeone knows Darravis ?
19:03.24hyperChipmunkyea, that's what i assumed; i set the toc entry and didn't look for it elsewhere
19:03.38kagaroohh hey hyperChipmunk, did you specialize engineering?
19:03.42hyperChipmunkthe line in question here was a result of the original search-and-replace
19:03.54hyperChipmunkyea, but...
19:03.58kagaroi see the problem
19:04.03kagaroyou code is correct
19:04.03hyperChipmunkthat means i have Engineering AND Gnomish Engineering
19:04.16hyperChipmunkit gives icons in my spellbook for both
19:04.21kagarobs["ExtractGas"] is fine
19:04.26hyperChipmunklol
19:04.39kagarothe skill line searching may be the culprit
19:04.54kagaroit may be coming across as 'Engineering Specialization'
19:05.04kagaroill test it out real quick
19:05.11hyperChipmunkok
19:05.40hyperChipmunki wish i could be more help; i actually wrote this like 2 weeks ago and didn't decide to do the svn stuff until today
19:05.50hyperChipmunkso i don't remember anything, naturally =)
19:06.09knarf^darn it http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Voices_From_Beyond is incompatible :<
19:06.36nevcairielchange the .toc to 20003
19:06.39nevcairieland try again
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19:08.20kagarohmm thats not it, infact I only see Engineering and not Goblin Engineering
19:09.09kagaroill check it out and debug it
19:09.36hyperChipmunkalright; i'll be here, so let me know if you need anything
19:09.47Uhuru!ù$^*^= acedruidbar
19:09.55nevcairielwhat?
19:10.20Uhuruthe bar is not movable ...
19:10.35FISKER_Qhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin <-yay i did it
19:10.39FISKER_Qcruise control for fukken awesome
19:10.42kagaroim trying to figur eout why wow on my G5 mac throws an error on the addon screen but intel mac doesnt
19:11.58knarf^hmm So how is /snd used to load Voices From Beyond e.g?
19:12.06nevcairielUhuru: hold shift
19:12.10kagarohyperChipmunk: well it seems to be loading fine for me
19:12.41knarf^s/e.g?/etc?/
19:13.23hyperChipmunklame!
19:13.30kagaroohh hyperChipmunk did you disable/enbale professions module?
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19:14.59kagaroCartographer:GetModule('Professions').addons[bs["Engineering"]] = self    needs to be set for professions to handle it correctly in the profile for when to load
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19:15.29knarf^well yay for fubar
19:16.11kagaroit uses the name your setting as the 'addon' for matching skill to addon list for configuring on/off   .. the .toc entry gets it to Load On Demand when you have the eng skill
19:17.20hyperChipmunkthat does it =)
19:17.35CIA-1803kagaro * r29833 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/addon.lua: Cartographer_ExtractGas: reset the addon name in Profession list for proper management
19:18.17hyperChipmunkthanks =)
19:18.21kagarosure
19:18.28Uhurunevcairiel thx but a readme.txt in each add on should be cool ...
19:18.36hyperChipmunknow i need to make sure "X gains Y" is localized properly
19:19.05FISKER_Qckknight: RAEP PING
19:19.07kagarohyperChipmunk: there is a string for that in GlobalStrings
19:19.16hyperChipmunkschweet
19:19.17ckknightFISKER_Q: YOUR MOM
19:19.20FISKER_Q:<
19:19.25kagarouse it in your regex
19:19.28hyperChipmunki meant to do that before committing =P
19:19.29hyperChipmunkyea
19:19.34FISKER_Qisn't ther a 61-69 AV group?
19:19.34hyperChipmunki just remembered it now
19:19.39hyperChipmunki'll take care of it
19:19.51nevcairielisnt it 61-70 ?
19:21.13CIA-1803eraslin * r29834 10Bidder/ (Bidder.toc gpl.txt): Bidder: Touch to update libs in the package.
19:21.20kergothhmm, is it not possible to have more than just the first 12 buttons paged like the actionbars?  i'd kinda like 2 bars to both page when i switch pages
19:21.34trhnevcairiel: it is
19:22.12hyperChipmunkAURAADDEDOTHERHELPFUL = "%s gains %s."; -- Combat log text for aura events
19:22.33kagaroyup
19:22.38hyperChipmunkno captures =P
19:22.42kergothhrm
19:22.46kagarogsub it in
19:22.50hyperChipmunkyea
19:23.09hyperChipmunkjerks!
19:23.15hyperChipmunkdon't they know i'm rusty?
19:23.19kagarohahaha
19:23.25nevcairielthey use it for output, they dont care about you :P
19:23.45hyperChipmunkshoosh! i can do this!
19:23.48MoonWolf~dict: colloquialism
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19:24.03nevcairielcolloq-what?
19:24.14Gngskwould it be possible to make a macro that starts casting, but if you press it again it stops casting
19:24.16kergothhyperChipmunk: you can always be lazy and use deformat, but its not that complex a gsub :)
19:24.18Gngskand then start over?
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19:24.29hyperChipmunkkergoth: ha, no, it's not my lib
19:24.36hyperChipmunki'm not gonna add deformat just for that
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19:25.16Nickenyfikendoes anyone know how mana/intellect is calculated? I have always thought it was 15 mana/int but apparently my shaman only get ~13 mana/int
19:25.26kergothhyperChipmunk: ah :)
19:25.34nevcairielits 15mana per int
19:25.39nevcairielmost certainly.
19:26.07kagaroholy crap! Apple is going to add h.264 harware encoder/decoder to all macs
19:26.34Nickenyfikenmy shamans paperdoll tells me i get 1865 mana from 143 int
19:26.39Nickenyfikenwich gives 1 865 / 143 = 13.041958
19:26.58kergothhmm, any hunters with pet recommendations for leveling? i'm level 20 and using a bat currently (<3 screech)
19:27.12nevcairielive always liked cats
19:27.24Nickenyfikenkergoth: i used a DPS pet but i was leveling with a holy priest :-P
19:27.39Nickenyfikenyeah i have a cat too
19:27.42hyperChipmunktallstriders > all
19:27.46kergothbat is a dps pet, though not as high as cat, its like 7% instead of 10%
19:27.50kergothhm
19:28.06nevcairielthe striders are so f'ing ugly imho :P
19:28.29NickenyfikenWell if you ar MM or Survival i think you could go for a tank pet
19:28.37hyperChipmunkha! first try
19:28.44Saint-Nbattle piggies!!
19:29.18Saint-Ni <3 battle piggies
19:29.25CIA-1803hyperactiveChipmunk * r29835 10Talismonger-3.0/Talismonger-3.0/Talismonger-3.0.lua:
19:29.25CIA-18Talismonger-3.0:
19:29.25CIA-18- localized CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CREATURE_BUFFS message extractions
19:29.35kergothhehe
19:29.39NeoTronkergoth: boars
19:29.48NeoTronboars's charge means you can DPS earlier
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19:30.16NeoTronsince it gets there faster and does larger initial damage for extra threat
19:30.16hyperChipmunkmy tallstrider has 11khp with buffs =)
19:30.19kergoththats true.  i do have the pet movement speed talent in beast mastery, but the boar's initial stun kicks ass
19:30.22kergothmaybe i'll try that
19:30.27NeoTrontallstriders have no special abilities do they?
19:30.39hyperChipmunkthey have the ability, "Be awesome"
19:30.45hyperChipmunk( ^ >
19:30.46nevcairielhehe
19:30.48NeoTronmore ike "teh suck" :)
19:30.55hyperChipmunk*rrrroark*
19:31.04Saint-Nthe only suck if you dont get the rare pink one ;)
19:31.18NeoTronthey still suck except for use in towns as a novelty
19:31.25Saint-Nno way
19:31.27NeoTronI don't get ppl using cats for lvelling either
19:31.28hyperChipmunkLyriki's attack screech is legendary on my server =)
19:31.37Saint-Nimagine being a BE hunter with a pink flamingo on yer chocobo ;P
19:31.39NeoTronbirds do make sense due to the aoe-taunting
19:31.44Saint-Nthats ownage right there
19:31.51NeoTronSaint-N: that's novelty not utility
19:31.54trhNeoTron: they got sprint and growl.. everything a pet needs =)
19:31.56hyperChipmunkLyriki's pristine white
19:31.57Saint-Nno thats utility
19:32.04NeoTrontrh: not so much
19:32.08Saint-Nthings dont attack you if you're too cool to bare
19:32.13NeoTrontrh: and spring is ~lvl 30
19:32.29trhNeoTron: sure.. owls are nice, but some people get pissed on by the flap flap flap flap flap sound
19:32.42Saint-Nlike take my shadow kodo for instance
19:32.44NeoTronand they are sort of in the way of targeting
19:32.52Saint-Nits cool looking AND faster than regular kodos
19:32.58phyber1932.02 <    phyber> did someone break the "Suppress Combat Log" thing in SCL again? :/
19:33.02phyber1932.27 <    phyber> had a bunch of "<x> create bandages" messages which shouldn't have been there.
19:33.02trhNeoTron: ya.. so cats or ravagers are the only alternative
19:33.09phyberpaste because #scummvm != #wowace
19:33.20trhNeoTron: bears = no sprint, boars = non-existant post-60
19:33.23NeoTroncats are great if you're not tanking
19:33.59NeoTronand you have your boar with you from level 10
19:33.59NeoTronwho needs one post-60? :)
19:33.59Saint-Ntrh: nah thers boards in outland
19:33.59hyperChipmunkseriously, play a tallstrider and battlegrounds and see how many of the opposing side come over to a character on your side and tell you they hate your #$!%ing bird.  The attack sound they make is awesome
19:33.59Saint-Nboars
19:33.59NeoTronSaint-N: they are demons though
19:33.59trhSaint-N: only demons
19:33.59hyperChipmunkdrives people insane
19:33.59Saint-Noh yeah
19:34.09trhhyperChipmunk: lol
19:34.26NeoTronI tried playing with a cat and althoguh its dps was nicer
19:34.38NeoTronI had to wait to start my dps and it was annoying as heck
19:34.43trhNeoTron: well i used broken tooth to level
19:34.49NeoTronsame reason I prefer the felguard over any other warlock pet - intercept ftw
19:34.57deltroni can't get broken tooth on my hunter :P
19:35.00nevcairielaffliction ftw.
19:35.05trhNeoTron: although he's know abadoned.. stupid 2.0 attack speed
19:35.19NeoTronI find it silly they amde all pets equal in that way
19:35.32NeoTronsame run speed, same attack speed...
19:35.47trhNeoTron: btw: the disadvantage with boars is that charge only works up to 25yards
19:36.00trhNeoTron: i often attack from farther away, so it's annoying
19:36.07Gnarfoznevcairiel: boring ftw? ;P
19:36.16Saint-Nthat black rare wolf in duskwood is pretty rad too
19:36.28Saint-Ncant remember if they nerfed his shadow res/damage
19:36.35trhthey did
19:36.38nevcairielfelguard is boring .. send to the mob .. do some dmg .. heal pet .. do some dmg .. heal pet ..
19:36.52nevcairielwith fear you at least get the thrill that some other mobs might aggro :P
19:36.56NeoTrontrh: they get sprint too
19:37.00Gnarfozaffliction is even worse: cast dots, fear, kill all in your path, live
19:37.01Gnarfoz;>
19:37.01hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/mynbelf.png <3
19:37.08Silviu-nevcairiel destruction ftw :/
19:37.08trhNeoTron: but it's on the same cd as charge
19:37.12trhNeoTron: at least it was
19:37.13GnarfozSilviu-: <3
19:37.21Saint-Nheh the bats fear resist is awesome
19:37.21NeoTrontrh: and without a boar, it takes even longer for it to get there
19:37.22zoktaranyone else got the msbt option greyed out in ktmfu even tho uhave it ?
19:37.28nevcairieli dunno, i couldnt get my head around destruction
19:37.33nevcairieltoo mage'ish
19:37.34Silviu-Well ... 0/21/40 ..
19:37.39Silviu-Funny :)
19:37.40AKXzoktar, really? I didn't test MSBT support at all
19:37.43Silviu-Farm, sac my void
19:37.48Silviu-Instance sac imp or succi
19:37.49NeoTronaffliction is best for non-stop grinding. demo has very slight downtime
19:37.56NeoTrondestruction is horrid for soloing
19:37.58Silviu-Dmg not all time look at some bars and refresh dots
19:38.01Silviu-Hate that
19:38.02Silviu-:)
19:38.04NeoTronI'm currently 0/40/21 though
19:38.20Silviu-NeoTron i have no downtime with my build
19:38.21NeoTronwhich is almost purely a shadow bolt build
19:38.26trhNeoTron: warp would be awesome for farming - 15 sec cd, if the mob wouldnt actually warp behind the target and run after him until the target stops
19:38.32Saint-N24/0/37 on ym priest at present
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19:38.45GnarfozhyperChipmunk: ...how? :D
19:38.47Saint-NIDS > VT for solo
19:38.50NeoTrontrh: yeah that's an annoying "feature"
19:38.57hyperChipmunklol transporter malfunction =)
19:39.03Gnarfozah
19:39.04Gnarfoz;)
19:39.09nevcairielthe new malfunctions are great
19:39.09trhNeoTron: i think it just was never tested by blizzard.. they just don't care
19:39.18nevcairielwhen you look like the last guy using the transporter all the time
19:39.18NeoTronI admit I never got my hunter past 27 but I've started working on a new one
19:39.20nevcairielthats so awsome
19:39.33hyperChipmunkyea, i use my porter even when i'm only one zone away =)
19:39.34NeoTrontrh: well things like charge and intercept have had many similar issues
19:39.42Silviu-http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Littleone
19:39.59hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/newtrollhere.png
19:40.11Saint-Nand my belf pally is level 31 so far, not had for less than a day of /played
19:40.12trhNeoTron: well.. they want to bring a major patch to pets and petskills...
19:40.14NeoTronSilviu-: how can you have no downtime with destruction? You don't use drain life and don't regain nearly enough mana even with the dmg => mana talent
19:40.25Silviu-I love it .. 210 heal from sac void .. 400 Vampirism .. 400 soul leech ...
19:40.34Silviu-Sac void :)
19:40.43nevcairielyou even have an ugly strider
19:40.47nevcairielget a pink one!
19:40.55NeoTronCampirism?
19:40.56trhmy flatmate has a affliction/demo warlock... it's basically melting faces
19:41.00NeoTronerr. Vampirism even
19:41.11Silviu-Yes 2 pieve t3
19:41.14Silviu-piece*
19:41.17trh(he has like 1200 shadow spelldamage self-buffed)
19:41.21NeoTronin karazhan day before last I did 28% of all damage
19:41.31NeoTronand, to make it more interestnig, the other DPS did NOT suck
19:41.33Saint-Nhehe all character screen hots need to be taken while the character is waving
19:41.33trhand every tick of that life drain thing gives him 300-400 hp or something
19:41.34trhits sick
19:41.48Saint-Nand auto embossed with "Wish You Were Here!"
19:41.54trhi hope blizzard beats warlocks with the nerf-stick soon
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19:42.03NeoTronthat is with a shadow priest though
19:42.09NeoTronwhich makes quite a significant difference
19:42.15NeoTronat least 10% more damage done on average
19:42.17Saint-Nlocks are scarey with weaving+misery
19:42.23Silviu-trh i know i have an shadow equip too but .. as i said .. i am bored to stay watch Chronometer bars and renew dots ..
19:42.41Silviu-This way i SB Sb SB SB SB .. immo confla SB SB SB .. in instance i mean :)
19:42.43Silviu-And is more fun
19:42.45NeoTronalthoguh I don't have crap gear it's not that great http://www.datamath.org/Graphing/PLT-SHH1.htm
19:42.52NeoTronI like dots
19:42.52Silviu-Aggro ... instant bolt, dc .. dead
19:42.54Silviu-Np :P
19:42.55trhSilviu-: sure.. but in pvp its like skillcoil, dot dot dot dot, life drain.. enemy dies...
19:42.58NeoTronI just felt useless on curator
19:43.00NeoTronfor example
19:43.08NeoTronbut I think in the future I should remain on curator at all times
19:43.12Saint-Nve+pain == sw:death farming fun
19:43.15trhSilviu-: oh.. add a fear cast in between ;)
19:43.35NeoTronheavy demo, imho, sucks for pvp
19:43.37Silviu-Each with his playstile
19:43.46NeoTronaff or dest are both better
19:43.53shieldbNeoTron, I just love the massive crits on evocating curator
19:43.59Silviu-Hmm ...heavy demo .. only if u go till lolguard
19:44.01Silviu-Then is fun :D
19:44.04shieldb29k off a bladeflurry is not bad at all on a rogue :P
19:44.17NeoTronwell felguard isn't really all tha good for pvp
19:44.22NeoTronnot considering waht you give up
19:44.26knarf^Can you do a hidden /random ?
19:44.28Silviu-Yes true
19:44.38Silviu-But i don`t pvp/raid anymore :)
19:44.53Silviu-Hmm ... this week my guild begged me to come with them
19:44.58Silviu-And i think i`ll begin :)
19:45.16shieldbSilviu-, so what do you mainly do, then? 5mans? Farm?
19:45.29Silviu-Yes ... and spent time with my girlfriend in game
19:45.31hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/striderpower.png >8D
19:45.40Silviu-And since she can`t raid with my guild i decided not to raid :)
19:46.10shieldbI just run my own kara raids and get my fiancee in when she feels like playing :)
19:46.38Silviu-Hmm i should do this too .. but a "random" raid ... is hard to clear
19:46.47shieldboh man, yeah
19:46.48Silviu-We cleared yesterday all Kharazaan ..
19:46.51knarf^is there any way to make a roll without wow announcing it ?
19:47.01shieldbknarf^, not with /roll
19:47.02trhknarf^: no
19:47.10hyperChipmunk/dump math.rnd(100)?
19:47.28hyperChipmunkoh, math.random(100)
19:47.37nevcairielmy guild decided to stop karazhan as "official" raids once everybody has the essence from nightbane for the quest to serpenshire .. i guess that will be in 2 weeks or so .. so i can finally get my own group up and running.
19:48.02Silviu-We did not down Gruul yet
19:48.06knarf^whatis it an addon giving the math feature ?
19:48.17hyperChipmunkno, it's standard lib
19:48.18shieldbbuilt in
19:48.20Punkie`omg nevcairiel, can i come?!
19:48.21Thraeknarf^: dump is from an addon, math isn't
19:48.27knarf^I see
19:48.32NeoTronnevcairiel: I suspect my guild will stop running karazhan as the primary raid as soon as we got regular 25 mans up and better control over kara
19:48.36Silviu-nevcairiel me too with my gf pls pls :D
19:48.42nevcairielhaha
19:48.43hyperChipmunkyea, but dump comes with, what? aceconsole?
19:48.52Thraeknarf^: Try ace:print( math.random(100) )
19:48.56ThraehyperChipmunk: DevTools.
19:48.57nevcairieldump is aceconsole or devtools
19:48.57nevcairielyea
19:49.06nevcairielAceConsole has a dump as well
19:49.09hyperChipmunkyea, but not everyone has devtools
19:49.10shieldbknarf^, if you aren't running any addons you can do a /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(math.random(100),1,1,1)
19:49.23Thraeshieldb: Don't need the 1s
19:49.33shieldbyeah true
19:49.34Silviu-Good night ;)
19:49.40knarf^thanks
19:49.46knarf^no need to make an addon to do it then
19:49.51shieldbI just like to include them because I'm ocd about weird stuff like that :)
19:49.56knarf^my friend wants a Meyer addon ^^^:>
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19:50.07nevcairiellol
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19:50.32ThraeAs in "Mike Meyers"?
19:50.42shieldbnevcairiel, yeah I caused a bit of guild drama when one week I didn't get slotted into a kara group so I just got some out of guild friends and full cleared it with a new group in a week :)
19:50.59nevcairieli should do that
19:51.05nevcairielbut i guess the drama would even be bigger
19:51.25shieldbjust tell people that karazhan is expansion ubrs that's a bit longer and on a reset timer
19:51.33shieldbif people complain they can run their own group
19:51.47Ominousanyrogue on wow  at the moment that could do me a quick favour
19:53.00shieldbI'm not on wow atm but I can speculate?
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19:53.55NeoTronit really is ubrs
19:53.59NeoTronnot a lot of upgrades
19:54.04NeoTronlarger, harder and stuff yes
19:54.29trhi'd say its more like ZG
19:54.53trhhalf the size of full-raid dungeons, got epic stuff, and is harder than 5-man
19:55.00nevcairielif you have capable players, its pretty easier
19:55.08shieldbkara is easier then 5 man heroics imo
19:55.12shieldbor at least, less of a pain
19:55.17ZealotOnAStickKara is actually pretty damn big.
19:55.21trhwell.. 5 man heroics don't count =)
19:55.44ZealotOnAStickShade of Aran is tougher than anything in ZG IMO.
19:55.57ZealotOnAStickIllhoof can be tough, but is turned into easy mode with 3 warlocks.
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19:56.14trhZealotOnAStick: i'd say thats just because the equipment is alot worse than then zg came out
19:56.18ZealotOnAStickPrince is entirely too luck based.
19:56.22shieldbshade isn't really even that tough though
19:56.26trhmost people in raiding guilds had at least T1 equip when zg came out
19:57.05ZealotOnAStickand as for gear . . . keep in mind, 2 pieces of T4 come from karazhan, and some of its items are better than supposed 25 man content.
19:57.14shieldbyeah, I think I was partial t2 (not counting rag / onyxia pieces) when we first did zg
19:57.46nevcairieli dont remember, really.
19:58.15trhZealotOnAStick: well.. some pieces out of zg were better than the stuff from mc/bwl =)
19:58.45trhdepending on class.. but still
19:59.43shieldbI wish blizzard would figure out wtf they're doing with the rogue t4 >.>
20:00.08trhwith hunter they decided to make him crit never :/
20:00.17shieldbthe shoulders were not very desirable before the patch and now they're worse then at least 3-4 easy to obtain blue shoulders
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20:00.32ZOASgahh, damn router.
20:00.55trhshieldb: blizzard and long-term plans doesnt match :/
20:02.17shieldbyeah my bank is filling up with all the blue gear I upgraded off of because I'm afraid they're going to nerf my new gear in a week and make the old stuff better :P
20:03.04trhshieldb: you must have a look at the us-mage-boards, if they cry about rogues, you get nerfed, otherwise not ;)
20:03.14shieldbheh
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20:10.30kenlyricany really tiny mods designed to watch buffs? Grid seems to randly lie about what custom buffs people have.
20:10.54nevcairielXRS
20:12.02shieldbkenlyric, XRS for watching raid buffs (i.e. does everyone have fort/mark/whatever) or setting up bars for various stuff (overall healer mana, overall dps mana, etc, etc)
20:12.23kenlyricthanks.
20:12.30kenlyricbtw, <3 grid + clickheal.
20:12.35kenlyricclick2cast, I mean
20:13.33AmadeoWhere's the closest place I can make poisons, around Tarren Mill? Do I have to go to Undercity?
20:15.16shieldbhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=6779 maybe?
20:15.18knarf^i'm not fond of grid
20:15.23knarf^it looks weird imho :>
20:15.24shieldbover in ravenholdt
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20:16.28Amadeooh cool, I'll check that out
20:16.34Amadeothank ya
20:16.48shieldbAmadeo, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=8924#z0Vz or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2931#z0Vz are good ways to find poison vendors :)
20:16.49kenlyricknarf^: it takes some getting used to, but once you set it up just right, it relays a LOT of info in a tiny space, which is awesome for a healer.
20:17.06knarf^kenlyric agreed
20:17.13shieldbsince some reagent vendors have poison even though they aren't labeled as having them with <Poison and Reagent Vendor>
20:17.16knarf^but
20:17.18knarf^well
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20:18.55knarf^kenlyric I haven't gotten around to understand all the bits and parts
20:19.14kenlyrictakes a while, but awesome once you do. I still get confused what some of the dots mean.
20:19.22kenlyricAnd, of course some of them seem to fire on no event at all :)
20:21.01Amadeoshieldb: hehe, thanks...first Rogue, so I don't even know what this stuff is really :)
20:22.06zoktarAKX ye its greyed out cant select it
20:22.25AKXOK, I'll check what's up.
20:22.59AmadeoI really like Garrote and Rupture
20:23.44CIA-1803derkyle * r29836 10BagSync/BagSync.lua:
20:23.44CIA-18BagSync:
20:23.44CIA-18- Updated the Bank Scanning.
20:24.51Saint-NBERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- A 43-year-old German decided to settle his imminent divorce by chainsawing a family home in two and making off with his half in a forklift truck.
20:25.14trhthats hardcore =)
20:25.16hyperChipmunksounds sensible
20:25.48nevcairiellol
20:26.50Saint-Nthose wacky germans
20:27.31deltronlol
20:27.38deltroncan you send me that link?
20:27.55hyperChipmunkanyone else have trouble with agUF incorrectly displaying the health bars of pets in the party?
20:28.09nevcairielthats a blizzard bug
20:28.23nevcairielparty pet health is not working properly
20:28.26AKXHey, what global variable would MSBT export?
20:28.34hyperChipmunkohhh
20:30.19AmadeoI haven't noticed problems with pets in Sage
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20:31.23chutwigi noticed it and somebody with default unit frames was also having the problems
20:31.33chutwigpretty annoying
20:32.12Pneuanyone had any problems with pet frames HP updating since the last patch?
20:32.19Amadeohm
20:32.31Amadeooh this is a new one? what's the deal with pets then?
20:32.45nevcairielparty pet API seems to be broken
20:32.45hyperChipmunklol
20:32.51nevcairielyour own pet works fine tho.
20:32.55hyperChipmunkhehe i just asked that =)
20:33.03Pneudefault frames, agUF, x-perl etc all not showing party pets HP updating
20:33.20Pneuyour own pet it shows fine, but a pet in your party doesnt update
20:33.27hyperChipmunk"it said he had 6000%"
20:33.29nevcairielits a blizzard problem
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20:33.33nevcairielnothing anyone can fix
20:33.48nevcairielexcept them :P
20:34.23Pneubit of a harsh BM hunter nerf
20:34.30Pneui keep shouting at healers because my boar is dying
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20:34.44nevcairielits a bug, i love those people that use "nerf" again :P
20:34.57kenlyriclol
20:35.00Arrowmasteryou might be able to make a temp fix but it would be extreamly hacky, something similar to what somebody did for getting FD hunter health, set a tooltip to the unit and get the healthbar from the tooltip
20:35.06hyperChipmunkea, my pet is our tank
20:35.17nevcairielif its your tank, you can target it
20:35.22nevcairieland in target, it should show correctly
20:35.33hyperChipmunkyea
20:35.34kenlyric<PROTECTED>
20:35.38kergothhmm, http://actionpad.googlecode.com/ looks interesting
20:35.58Arrowmasterfrom what ive heard, 100 will show as max health even if you target it if its not your pet
20:36.08deltronoooh neat kergoth
20:36.14Pneuyeh, focus seems to be an option
20:36.20kergothi use wasd, not esdf, but i could adapt
20:36.34deltronkergoth: i'm going to try vanguard this weekend
20:37.01kergothhttp://code.google.com/p/actionpad/ being the more useful link to it
20:37.02kergothnice
20:37.26Amadeonevcairiel: That's what I mean, party pet API is always broken
20:37.30Amadeofor the last what? 4 patches?
20:37.34nevcairielnah
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20:37.37nevcairielit worked before
20:37.51deltronI started to use esdf in counter-strike
20:37.52deltronheh
20:39.00Arrowmasterthere werent secure frames for party pets for a while if thats what your talking about
20:39.05kergothi started using wasd in quake 1
20:39.52deltronyeah, long time wasd user
20:40.03deltronwas an arrows key user in doom though :P
20:40.19kenlyricDOOM
20:40.20nevcairielarrow key .. where left and right are actually "turn" and not strafe .. :P
20:40.34deltronyep
20:40.45deltronand there was no such thing as jump
20:40.46nevcairielwell ok in doom1 without mouse..
20:40.54kenlyricback in my day, we had to WORK to strafe.
20:41.02kenlyricisn't it so hard to go back to FPS after playing wow?
20:41.09nevcairielit is
20:41.18nevcairieli am playing Q4 now and then
20:41.25nevcairielits weird'ish
20:41.30AmadeoI play WoW like an FPS
20:41.35Arrowmasterme too
20:41.42kenlyricthe three games I play most or half-life2, wow, and san andreas, and the movement controlls are all slightly different.
20:41.44Amadeoso going back and forth is transparent
20:41.55nevcairielsure i walk like in an fps
20:41.59nevcairielbut everything else
20:42.03nevcairielc'mon i am a healer :P
20:42.18kenlyricI suppose I could remap my a  and d keys to be strfe.
20:42.30kenlyricI don't actually have strafe keys bound atm
20:42.30deltronI started playing CS again
20:42.33Amadeohehe
20:42.37deltronI need to pick up HL2: episode 1
20:43.17Arrowmasteri cant remember if i finished ep1
20:43.19nevcairielbah CS
20:43.31nevcairieli cant remember if i finished default HL²
20:44.04Amadeoremember when FPS games were good?
20:44.05Amadeohaha
20:45.12AmadeoI'm not too happy with PC games overall these days, other than MMOG
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20:46.12NeoTron<PROTECTED>
20:46.14DhragaEvening gys 'n gals, is anyone having trouble to see pet health ok when using ag_Unitframes after the patch ?
20:46.21deltronremember when FPS's weren't dumbed down due to consoles?
20:46.28DhragaParty pet health that is
20:46.32Amadeodeltron: hahahah
20:46.36Amadeoexactly, that's the problem
20:46.39Amadeoeverything is dumbed down these days
20:46.40nevcairielparty pet health is broken due to a API malfunction
20:46.42AmadeoEven MMOG :P
20:47.03AmadeoBaldur's Gate 2 came with a spiral bound manual!
20:47.22DhragaNevcairiel, ah... meaning that bliz broke it or did they alter code that authors must abide to ?
20:47.33deltronwow is pretty dumbed down to be honest
20:47.53Amadeoit is
20:48.10Amadeobut it's still fun overall, though I'm anxiously awaiting Warhammer Online for something new
20:48.13deltronvanguard looks so awesome
20:48.31trhgood looking doesnt mean great gameplay
20:49.07deltronyeah
20:49.10deltroni'll find out this weekend
20:49.11deltronhehe
20:49.21deltronthe classes look fun
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20:49.57AmadeoI was in the Vanguard beta...my PC couldn't really run it, so I didn't give it a fair shot, but the 3 seconds that I played I wasn't too impressed with the interface and such
20:49.59kergothhmm, cogsbar is nice, it needs options to scale/set padding/etc on its bars though
20:50.19deltronyeah i'm hoping my laptop can run it decently
20:51.19chuckgHmm, Chronometer needs a "mutli-mob" mod.
20:51.22chuckgmode..
20:51.56kenlyricuh... tracks multi-mobs just fine for me.
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20:55.35Saint-Nhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.1140
20:55.42Saint-Nlook at se99's screenies
20:55.54Saint-Nwhich timers is he using? sorren's
20:55.55Saint-N?
20:58.51AmadeoI wish Chronometer's bars disappeared when a target dies
20:59.19chuckgkenlyric, try casting on two mobs w/ the same name.
20:59.24chuckgIt'll reset the timer.
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20:59.30chuckgObviously, because it's doing a simple check..
20:59.34kenlyricchuckg: that's not the mod's fault.
20:59.36chuckg"Does this mob with this name and lvl have a dot on it?"
20:59.39chuckgYea, I know that.
20:59.42chuckgBut there *is* a way to avoid that.
20:59.43chuckgTo an extent.
20:59.44hyperChipmunkit's the only check it CAN do
20:59.48chuckgNope.
20:59.56hyperChipmunkwhat, keep track of it's supposed hp?
20:59.57chuckgA simple example is this:
20:59.58kenlyricmobs don't have individual unitIDs.
21:00.01chuckgNope.
21:00.03chuckgJust wait :)
21:00.06chuckgTrying to type it out!
21:00.17chuckgYou track the "change_target" event.
21:00.30chuckgSoulless, I target a mob (we'll assume 2 mobs, same name, same level), I cast two dots.
21:00.39chuckg(I meant to type so)
21:00.46chuckgI target the second mob, cast two dots.
21:00.47hyperChipmunki thought about that, too, but what happens when you change, then change back to the original?
21:01.01chuckgThen it does reset.
21:01.10chuckgBut the thing is..
21:01.19chuckgIf you're a lock you're typically dotting one, then going to one and not changing back till it's done.
21:01.26chuckgSo any dots you cast on the current target.
21:01.31chuckg*Cannot* and will not reset any other dots.
21:01.40hyperChipmunkand does /cast [target='mouseover'] trigger the change target event?
21:01.42chuckgRegardless of if it's an exact match to another target.
21:02.12kergothhmm, SilverDragon could use a cartographer filter to show only rares within a certain threshold of your level
21:02.25chuckgBut you would still know if it was "last target" or "new target" too.
21:02.29chuckgSo I dot the first.
21:02.32chuckgThen go to the second.
21:03.04kenlyricso, that works for your one perfect example.
21:03.05chuckgNow the second's dots (assuming I do two rotations) have a flag that say 'current target', so it doesn't reset any other than the ones made with that target up.
21:03.21chuckgIf I change back, the flag becomes 'last target', and any new dot is the current target flag.
21:03.25chuckgIt works up to 3 mobs.
21:03.28kenlyricI do all sorts of strange things with dots as a priest.
21:03.42chuckgI know this system works because I wrote a dot timer before 2.0 with the same type of system.
21:03.52chuckgWell, co-authored.
21:04.21chuckgSo if you're applying dots to 3 targets, you still avoid the problem.
21:04.52chuckgIt's not perfect, but it's certainly more precise than always resetting it.
21:05.00chuckgThat's why I suggested a 'multi-mob' mode.
21:05.10chuckgTo be able to turn it on and off.
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21:05.51chuckgIt's just added functionality for warlocks, the fact that you act strangely with your priest dots doesn't mean most people don't act like I just described.
21:05.57AmadeoI always just thought you could track target death :P
21:06.02chuckgMost people either dot one, change, dot another, then back.
21:06.05chuckgANd that makes it work perfect.
21:06.07chuckgIt does.
21:06.25chuckgBut it clears all timers, and all timers = only 1 grouping right now if you have targets w/ same name/lvl.
21:06.44AmadeoHow about some sort of timer grouping? Would be hard to do graphically, I guess
21:07.12chuckgThat's the only way to do multi-mob tracking.
21:10.50Arrowmasterthe major thing i want chronometer to do right now is support focus unit for the clearing of timers on mob death, so if i banish something thats my focus then target and kill something with the same name it doesnt clear the timer
21:10.53Amadeothe new low health chime in MSBT scared me :P
21:10.55FryGuywhy not use the symbols :p
21:11.21FryGuyor if you're in a raid, something like perfecttarget should have the info, you would just need a persistant type thing to remember
21:12.09kenlyriccan't use the symbols as a target, can you?
21:12.24FryGuyoh i guess that's a good point
21:12.33kenlyrichow I wish :)
21:12.48FryGuyi thought it was just a timer though
21:12.52kenlyricI could macro shackle undead to moon and not even have to worry about focus.
21:12.53Soulless<chuckg> Soulless, I target a mob (we'll assume 2 mobs, same name, same level), I cast two dots.
21:12.55Soullessque?
21:13.17chuckgName completion :(
21:13.22chuckgI typed "so, "
21:13.26chuckgAnd it did soulles.
21:13.27chuckgSorry :)
21:13.40Soullesshaha, thats stupid, should only work with tab, but now orries :D
21:14.22chuckgI would be happy with an option that just never cleared anything on death.
21:14.24chuckgAnd alweays made a new timer.
21:14.32chuckgThen add the stuff I'm talking about later D=
21:15.57Arrowmasteris there a way to get the unitid for your spell target? the UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT just gives a name, you could probably do some securehooking to get it from macros
21:15.58AmadeoMan, I'm getting more Gmail spam than ever lately
21:15.59kergothyou mean like /chronometer kill ?
21:16.46chuckgYes, that works fine Kergoth.
21:16.54chuckgBut it doesn't handle donig 2x dots on mobs with the same name/lvl.
21:17.00chuckgI'm talking about having it always make a timer
21:17.27kergothhmm, why is bartender's bar1 at scale 80 bigger than bar6 at scale 80?
21:17.51chuckgSo at least I have some semblance of tracking multiple mobs.
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21:24.04wobinAmadeo: It was inevitable =\
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21:36.21ilifinwhat was the new [] thing introduced in 2.0.10 again?
21:38.35nevcairielwas there any?
21:39.15xyuwhoa
21:39.20xyumy genearl is bugged
21:39.37xyuif i type /1 it says 1. AceCommZone0d944e]:
21:41.05Saint-Nyeah i was getting that last week too if i logged in in combat or away from a city
21:41.10wobin<PROTECTED>
21:41.26wobingod knows why it uses the channels like that
21:41.35Saint-Nquixote?
21:41.40xyui only have questsfu
21:41.56wobinno... cart_quest_objectives or something
21:42.00xyuah
21:42.02xyuyeah i have that.
21:42.11nevcairielthat causes that.
21:42.17xyuthink i'm going to get rid of it though,  seems ever since i've had it my addons memory has skyrocketed
21:42.19Saint-Ngay
21:42.23xyuits at 79mb right now, i dont even know hwy
21:42.24xyuwhy*
21:42.26wobinbut it's ace =P
21:42.30wobinIt must be good =P
21:42.34NeoTron<PROTECTED>
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21:43.01wobinNeoTron: ie, don't show the circle full stop?
21:43.15NeoTronsomething like that
21:43.36NeoTronit's especially annoying with clustered quest givers
21:44.06NeoTronfilter al icons closer than a certain amount to the center of the map perhaps
21:49.30Saint-Ni think i need to find a cart replacement
21:50.26xyuugh i swear there was an option for the waypoint range to clear the note somewhere.
21:50.27xyui know i saw it.
21:51.36xyui want to set it at like 15 instead of 5
21:51.49wobinSaint-N: Just cut down on the extra cart modules
21:51.58wobinxyu: not at the moment. You could hardcode it
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21:52.14xyuwould it be simple ? :D
21:52.20wobinrelatively
21:52.23wobinWaypoints.lua
21:52.26wobinnear the bottom
21:52.32ArcharodimHello everyone :)
21:52.33xyukk
21:52.36wobinlook for something something <= 10
21:52.37Saint-Nim just not all theat keen on cart using channels to send data out even when ive gone through and disabled all sharing
21:52.40wobinand change it to 15
21:52.41xyuok
21:53.00wobinSaint-N: What, like cart_quest_objectives? =P
21:53.07Saint-Nyeah exactly ;)
21:53.08wobinThat's an exception to the rule I think
21:53.13wobinAnd god knows why it does it
21:53.13Saint-Nit screws up my channels heh
21:53.23wobinjust dump that module
21:53.27Saint-Nand it seems a tad bloaty
21:53.37xyuyeah i'm dumping it.
21:53.38wobinit doesn't appear to be in your requirements anyway
21:53.40Saint-Nthe "gathering" portions of it anyways
21:53.44xyuit should just do like 1 note.
21:53.47wobinsince it broadcasts quest objectives
21:53.49xyui dont need 30 notes
21:53.57xyuto tell me this is the area that i killed this mob
21:54.00Saint-Nheh wobin
21:54.20Saint-Nactually ive been meaning to go back and check out alphamap and metamap again
21:54.31wobinThen you don't get Waypoints!
21:54.34wobinand that's a shame =)
21:54.34xyucheck out that guys database for me too.  :P
21:54.39Saint-Ni know
21:54.46xyumeta has waypoints.  just a shitty version
21:54.46Saint-Ni do love the little arrow ;P
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21:55.04xyuit has like 6 degrees of rotation
21:55.17Saint-Nhehe "hackhackhackhackhack"
21:55.39xyubut i do like metas ability to just import whole databases
21:55.54Saint-Ncart seems to be going the way of prat
21:55.58xyui'd like to try that one guy who just started making it.  thorax2000 or something.  started at lvl 1.
21:55.58wobinnot really
21:56.10wobinSaint-N: You just have to stop downloading the modules =P
21:56.12Saint-Nstarted off a nice addon but now its trying to be a UI in itself with all the mods ;P
21:56.14hyperChipmunki don't like the circle either; i can't see what kind of mine it is, only what kind of mine carto has
21:56.15wobinThe base product is still there
21:56.20Saint-Nheh yeah
21:57.02Saint-Neebak is definitely a source of this
21:57.02Saint-Neebcak is definitely a source of this
21:57.08wobinwhat 'exists...'?
21:57.17wobinerror?
21:57.21wobinelephant?
21:57.22Saint-Nerror exists between chair and keyboard
21:57.24wobineuphamism?
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21:57.42zoktarbtw chronometer doesnt seem to time seduce
21:57.44Saint-Naka eebkac ;P
21:57.46wobinah, I usually say 'pebcak' "Problem exists..." =)
21:57.54Saint-Nheh yeah
21:58.08xyudo those Blizzard_X addons have to be in my interface/addons ?
21:58.14Saint-Nyes
21:58.17xyuk
21:58.29Saint-Neven if you rm them they'll show up next time you run wow
21:59.43CyrezBartender3 author in the hizzle?
22:00.03NeoTronwonder why the heck there's no crafted replacement for http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28557
22:01.43xyuwobin would the range code be in waypoints.lua or waypoint.lua
22:02.03wobinwaypoints
22:02.07wobinalthough I'll be moving it soon
22:02.22xyuif dist <=10 then
22:02.22xyuif not waypointFrame.up then
22:02.25xyusth like this?
22:02.27wobinthat's the one
22:02.30xyukk
22:04.33Arrowmasterhey wobin, waypoints seem to be bugged for twisting nether, it wont update the arrow or distance while in twisting nether, and the arrow seems bugged when you get really close to the note
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22:05.19wobinArrowmaster: I've never been in the TN, so I unfortunately can't bugfix that...
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22:05.36wobinbut I suspect it has to do with the lack of up to date information regarding location
22:06.04NeoTronJewelcrafting upper end feels incomplete
22:06.20NeoTron4 epic items - two mostly useless, 2 nice but situational (resist necks)
22:06.36NeoTronand all BoE
22:07.04NeoTronno epic gems, no epic non-special purpose jewelry (BoP!)
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22:07.59CIA-18BagSync:
22:07.59CIA-18- Bank Bag updated again to reflect -1 bag (Primary Bank Bag)
22:08.06Arrowmasterwobin: use i think its GetMapInfo() to get the map texture then use tourist to get the name and use that instead of GetRealZoneText() if your using that i guess
22:09.16wobinpossibly aye
22:11.12NeoTronone cool jewelcrafter specific buff they could add is the ability to remove gems (with a chance to fail)
22:11.21NeoTronthat'd make it worth having JC
22:13.09Saint-Nwelp home time
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22:19.39CIA-18BagSync:
22:19.39CIA-18- Fixed an issue with a tooltip not working correctly in character window.
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22:29.43Antiarc|Work...so I've had 18,000 hits on my guild tools today.
22:29.45Antiarc|WorkO_O
22:30.14nevcairiellol
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22:35.00CAL|Smeltnhello..
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22:35.10CAL|Smeltnis there an ace mod out that is like theory craft?
22:35.20CAL|Smeltnor is theory craft updated?
22:36.44wobindrdamage?
22:36.57wobinAntiarc|Work: What's your addon?
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22:38.03wobin~seen kemayo
22:38.26purlkemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (13h 30m 7s) #wowace (13h 30m 7s), last said: 'I should stop trying to get help on the ubuntu forums.  Nobody seems to be reading/understanding my post. >_>'.
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22:40.46Antiarc|Workwobin: Not an addon, some tools that aggregate data from the Armory
22:41.03chuckgI saw on the other night.
22:41.11chuckgYou type in the guild/server and it pullls the whole guilds stats.
22:41.13chuckgIs that you?
22:41.26Antiarc|WorkYeah
22:41.31Antiarc|Workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/
22:41.31wobinThat was adirielle, wasn't it?
22:41.34chuckgI'm writing one to socket gems into helms.
22:41.37chuckgYea that's the one.
22:41.39wobinah not =)
22:41.42chuckgI pull data from wowhead.
22:41.47chuckgBut parsing wowhead is nothing short of annoying.
22:42.07Antiarc|WorkBlizzard chucking out XML from the Armory was basically an early Christmas present
22:42.18chuckgIndeed
22:42.30chuckgI had to write a C app so I could handle the strings more efficiently.
22:42.41Antiarc|WorkBut yeah. 18k hits today alone, and rising fast.
22:42.44Antiarc|WorkTraffic is -insane-
22:42.54chuckgBetter get it hosted somewhere else of offload it.
22:43.07chuckgI had a hefty bandwidth bill when I did the aq40 turnins.
22:43.19chuckgI had the 'original' one before blizzard posted it that aggregated all the servers.
22:43.21chuckgI had to turn off my server.
22:43.22chuckg:|
22:43.31Antiarc|WorkHeheh, I wrote one as well
22:43.33nevcairielhehe
22:43.42Antiarc|Workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/aqeffort/
22:44.05NightHawkTheSanehttp://xkcd.com/c233.html I think I may be a bot.
22:48.07nevcairiel~wau
22:48.12purlmethinks wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.
22:50.42Ominouswhich is going to use less resources, flexbar2 when released,or BT3
22:53.41NightHawkTheSane.... that's completely impossible to say.
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22:56.17nadas_the one you're not using :)
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23:05.09art3mishrm is cairren around?
23:05.26art3misim thinking that wowi needs a "show new addons" button on the main download page
23:05.55art3misjust a more snapshotty advanced version of the home page one
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23:07.01art3mishttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6922-sienasGemViewer.html <-- yay!
23:08.54NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: oh, that's neat.
23:13.13art3misso how does niagara compare to dueace?
23:13.16art3misdeuce
23:13.23Ominousniagara uses waterfall
23:13.26art3misor am i wrong in assuming thier mostly the same
23:13.30Ominousduece uses dewdrop
23:13.33Ominousthey are
23:13.35shieldbart3mis, in some cases it works awesome, in some less effective
23:13.36art3missame idea though right?
23:13.41Ominousyea
23:13.49shieldbit really depends on the addon
23:13.57Ominousniagara is a proper UI whereas deuce is a fubar menu
23:13.58art3mishrm
23:14.09art3mismaybe ill muck around with that today
23:14.10shieldbniagara uses config windows, deuce does dropdown menus
23:14.34art3missomeone remind me tomorrow that i need to leech everysingle addon from wowace and take screenies
23:14.43Ominouswhy?
23:14.50art3misfor the wiki
23:15.09art3misand the fact im getting sick of looking at the lame descriptions that doesnt really show me how it's gonna look ;P
23:15.11knarf^take screenies of you leeching all the addons?
23:15.18knarf^Whats that gonna help the wiki? :P
23:15.19art3misno of all the seperate addons
23:15.24art3mishehe smartass
23:15.24vhaarrart3mis: That would be sweet.
23:15.45knarf^art3mis soz :<, could not resist :P
23:16.37OminousRogue, Druid, Pally, Hunter, Lock, Priest, Sham are all the classes right?
23:16.45shieldbMage?
23:16.48shieldbWarrior?
23:16.55Ominouskk
23:17.10shieldbthere's 9 total, you had 7 originally :)
23:17.33shieldbthough you probably could have left hunters off the list.... :P
23:17.41Ominousyea
23:17.53Ominoushuntards as our guild call em :D
23:18.22shieldbwe've got a few decent hunters
23:18.29shieldband by decent hunters I mean that they rerolled warriors
23:18.38Ominousnot saying we havent, we still take the piss of em :D
23:18.40hyperChipmunkdon't make me destroy you
23:18.44sbuhyperChipmunk: uhm - are gas locations fixed?
23:18.51hyperChipmunksort of
23:18.59hyperChipmunkthey float around an area
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23:19.38hyperChipmunkwhat i do is follow the gas around and trigger my extractor, but don't let it finish casting
23:19.44hyperChipmunkso i get a nice cloud
23:19.49hyperChipmunkof datapoints
23:19.58hyperChipmunkand i set them to about 40% alpha
23:21.32Ominousin my loading for addon i call the same values repeated amounts of time, should i create a metatable or does AceLocal do that anyweay
23:22.32sbuhm
23:22.37sbuhyperChipmunk: wtb database ;o
23:23.02hyperChipmunki cleared it while testing =P
23:23.06sbu%-)
23:23.18sbuerr well, gn8 then, gf is waiting ;o
23:23.31nevcairielhm, dont those gases "float" around?
23:23.41hyperChipmunkyes
23:23.43hyperChipmunklol
23:23.50hyperChipmunkthat's what i just was talking about
23:24.03nevcairieli wasnt paying attention
23:24.07hyperChipmunkthey float around, but in a fixed path/area
23:24.16nevcairielwas just wondering, could get alot of nodes for one gas
23:24.28hyperChipmunkthat's exactly what i do
23:24.36hyperChipmunkread about 2 pages up =P
23:24.50nevcairieli am trying to learn C# right now, too lazy :P
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23:25.11hyperChipmunk18:19 <@hyperChipmunk> what i do is follow the gas around and trigger my extractor, but don't let it finish casting
23:25.14hyperChipmunk18:19 <@hyperChipmunk> so i get a nice cloud
23:25.15hyperChipmunkthere
23:25.17hyperChipmunk18:19 <@hyperChipmunk> of datapoints
23:25.19hyperChipmunk18:19 <@hyperChipmunk> and i set them to about 40% alpha
23:25.56nevcairielwould prolly look kinda funny on the map :D
23:26.08toddwhat gases? I'm so confused :o
23:26.22hyperChipmunkwell don't use it then!
23:26.31hyperChipmunkit helps me, so i put it on the svn
23:26.54CIA-1803nevcairiel * r29842 10Bartender3/libs/: Bartender3: fixed externals
23:27.07hyperChipmunk..
23:32.31CIA-1803zuno * r29843 10uabLayout_Pyramid/ (uabLayout_Pyramid.lua uabLayout_PyramidConfig.lua):
23:32.31CIA-18uabLayout_Pyramid:
23:32.31CIA-18- Added spacing options.
23:33.02CIA-1803zuno * r29844 10uabLayout_Pyramid/uabLayout_Pyramid.toc:
23:33.03CIA-18uabLayout_Pyramid:
23:33.03CIA-18- TOC revision update
23:34.42CIA-1803zuno * r29845 10UnitActionBars/ (8 files in 5 dirs):
23:34.42CIA-18UnitActionBars:
23:34.42CIA-18- Added spacing options.
23:34.42CIA-18- Fixed an aguf framegroup name problem
23:35.08CIA-1803zuno * r29846 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
23:35.08CIA-18UnitActionBars:
23:35.08CIA-18- TOC revision update
23:35.28NeoTronAntiarc|Work: that is an awesome site
23:39.03ArcharodimHi, I would like to know who I can contact to change my forum username (to change Archarodim_ to Archarodim)
23:41.09nevcairielI have to admit, C# is a neat and clean programming language.
23:41.14KarlThePaganyou mean on the forum, wiki or cvs Archarodim?
23:41.28Archarodimon the forum only
23:41.32peltco|awayanyone knows a way to see the memory usage on a per mod basis?
23:41.43hyperChipmunkyou have to wait until wow 2.1
23:42.14Antiarc|WorkNeoTron: Glad you like it :)
23:42.16KarlThePaganwarmup and teksupport give SOME insight, but are not as good as the wow 2.1 stuff will be
23:42.30peltcoin wow 2.1 you can see memory usage on a per mod basis?
23:42.46KarlThePaganindeed, and cpu usage if enabled
23:42.56Archarodimyep :) and even cpu usage I think, non?
23:43.00KarlThePaganyup
23:43.03trhpeltco: yes.. read the patch notes in the us-interface boards
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23:44.58Ominousif i am calling from babble spell with the same items regularly should i create a loclal metatable for it>?
23:45.58nevcairielnah
23:46.02nevcairielAL does that for you
23:46.39nevcairielat least it claims, that it does :D
23:51.13Funkeh`wheres the wiki page explaining all about memory usage and how you can never measure the exact used etc
23:51.45JJSheetsover there.
23:51.57Funkeh`oh yeah i see it now
23:51.59peltcoi don't care about exact usage
23:52.04hyperChipmunkhehe
23:52.08Funkeh`neither do i
23:52.10peltcojust want to know which ones are the big memory huggers
23:52.12Funkeh`im refering a noob to it
23:52.21peltcoand which ones are the light ones
23:52.31NeoTronI'm lookign forward for a "top" ace addon that shows addons sortable by memory and CPU usage
23:52.48NeoTronand well as memory delta usage (i.e total memory vs memory allocations)
23:52.54NeoTronthat'd be cool
23:53.00Ominousplease can someone look at http://ace.pastey.net/submit.php and tell me which is best
23:53.13hyperChipmunkhopefully they put a /top command in by default
23:53.15Funkeh`can't find the damn link on the wiki
23:53.18nevcairielsomething went wrong with your url copy/pasting
23:53.41Ominousoops
23:54.02Ominoushttp://ace.pastey.net/8053-1zhm
23:57.12nevcairielshouldnt you return "value" in your first example?
23:58.44nevcairielthe first one looks reasonable enough tho
23:58.57nevcairielif you fix it :D
23:59.02Ominousoh yea
23:59.16Ominouswould it be more efficient than no 2 tjo
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23:59.25NeoTronI just wish the armory stopped including buffs in their numbers
23:59.56trhNeoTron: it displays them if it shows them.. doesnt it?

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