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00:00.13sylvanaarman, the profile menu has disappeared from prat's main menu hmm....
00:00.19shieldbthe kz part of that attunement can be rough depending on the ability to field multiple 10 man groups through the week
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00:03.36Funkeh`sieldb we have had 2 groups since launch raiding it
00:03.41Funkeh`so its been pretty easy going
00:03.53Funkeh`simultaeniously i mean
00:04.01Funkeh`i can't spell that
00:04.25snurrelove meeting warriors with appearantly 100% critrate in arenas
00:05.24OverloadUT|WorkWhat is the lockout time on kz?
00:05.29snurre7d
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00:08.12shieldbSomewhat disappointing that kz provides 25 people with 6 tier 4 per week, whereas gruul / magtheridon's lair provides 25 people with 2
00:08.48mahiroi have a problem with UIFrameFadeIn, i fade a frame if my mana is at 100% with UIFrameFadeOut(fBar, 2, 1, 0.2) but if i want to fade it back in if its below 100% with UIFrameFadeIn(fBar, 2, 0.2, 1), nothing happens....
00:09.05yacoobyou're all wrong
00:09.10yacoobgz stands for gzip!
00:09.37Ironhandvhaarr, not sure you saw my earlier hilight, but getting back to the problem from the other week, Detox still seems to be unreliable here
00:09.45vhaarrIronhand: alright
00:11.30CIA-1803rabbit * r29663 10BigWigs/ (LoadOnDemand.lua Plugins/TargetMonitor.lua): BigWigs: Attempt to fix mods not enabling.
00:13.12ilifinhttp://ilifin.net/img/wowcaps/ScreenShot_030707_011240.jpeg FINALLY \o/
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00:14.06knarf^what ?
00:14.18vhaarrfinally what? :P
00:14.22ilifinspot the gnome
00:14.25ilifinon the roof
00:14.34ilifinI finally got up :p
00:14.42knarf^cheat
00:14.43knarf^!!
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00:15.25vhaarrlol
00:15.33vhaarrthis is harder than "where's waldo for adults"
00:15.41knarf^photoshoped
00:15.48knarf^!
00:15.49knarf^:D
00:17.30ilifin:(
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00:25.34OverloadUT|WorkOkay, I have seen this syntax enough times now where I need to ask why people do it this way: http://ace.pastey.net/7813
00:26.04OverloadUT|WorkWhy the "do...end" and why declare the locals outside the function scope?
00:26.21vhaarrit creates a separate scope, and saves those values between method executions
00:26.50OverloadUT|WorkSo it saves memory because it doesn't need to reallocate space for those three vars each time?
00:26.52vhaarrsee line 14-16
00:27.07vhaarrit only replaces the values of x, y and zone if it can get new ones reliablyt
00:27.08vhaarr-t
00:27.15vhaarrand then returns the previous values if not
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00:28.03JJSheetsOverloadUT|Work, if you're familiar with C or C++, that is like doing static variables.
00:29.02vhaarrno, it's not
00:29.02OverloadUT|WorkInteresting
00:29.07JJSheetsit isn't?
00:29.16vhaarrthose variables only live inside that scope
00:29.23vhaarrx,y and zone
00:29.53JJSheetsright... static variables within a function declaration in C are local to that function scope only.  same result as the lua method.
00:29.57vhaarrright, err
00:29.58vhaarryes
00:29.59vhaarr:P
00:30.03JJSheetslol
00:30.28JJSheetsvhaarr, you getting enough sleep dude?  lol
00:30.34vhaarrnot really
00:30.37JJSheetslol
00:30.50WobWorkJJSheets: hm I'm not sure if that's a precise analogy though
00:31.22WobWorksince Static variables are also accessible if declared in the base object, by the inheriting objects, aren't they?
00:31.29OverloadUT|WorkMan I just want a function to get the player coords without relying on Cartographer, but Cartographer uses like 4 functions to get the job done :P
00:31.47WobWorkOverloadUT: that's cause it's not easy =P
00:31.49JJSheetswell, Lua doesn't make those kinds of distinctions WobWork, last I checked... :)
00:32.01WobWorkSure it does.
00:32.04WobWorkWell AceOO does
00:32.25OverloadUT|WorkIs there an Ace2 lib for getting the player coords easily?
00:32.29ckknightOverloadUT: Cartographer's way is special
00:32.41WobWorkYou can almost see the quotation marks around "special" =P
00:33.09ckknightGetPlayerMapPosition("player")
00:33.17ckknightthat gets it, but it's not as reliable as Cart's way
00:33.40OverloadUT|WorkWhat special functionality does it have? On one hand it looks like it does some magic if you're inside an instance but on the other hand it looks like it aborts before it gets to the magic, if you're in an instance...
00:33.47CIA-1803jjsheets * r29664 10Omnibus/Omnibus.lua: Omnibus: Fixed the Run button and other locations not saving page text before executing lua code.
00:34.14ckknightOverloadUT: that's for people inside Wailing Caverns but not the instance itself
00:34.15ckknightfor example
00:34.22ckknightyou'll show up as Barrens instead of Kalimdor
00:34.35ckknightalso, it properly gets your position if you're zoomed out and such
00:34.56OverloadUT|WorkHrm, then I'll have to rip this code...
00:36.26OverloadUT|WorkHow about all this fancy Cartographer coord stuff be moved in to an Ace2 lib so others can use it easily ;
00:36.27OverloadUT|Work;)
00:37.18ckknightnope, OverloadUT
00:37.25ckknightit relies on Cartographer messing with the map itself
00:37.39NeoTronBTW multi-zone waypoints are way cool
00:37.41ckknightif I were to put it in another lib, then Cartographer couldn't mess with the map the same way, or even worse, get in the way
00:37.49NeoTronjust need a "close to waypoint warning so I can hear it when I'm alt-tabbed :P
00:38.03OverloadUT|WorkI guess I can just use GetPlayerMapPosition("player"), but if the player has Cart installed I'll call that function
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00:38.19OverloadUT|WorkSo smart people (IE, they have Cart installed) get more accurate results ;)
00:38.55ckknightyep :-)
00:39.05ckknightNeoTron: that is a good idea
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00:39.27OverloadUT|WorkIf I do: if false then function ThisIsAHugeFunction() [[a huge function taking up tons of memory]] end end
00:39.36OverloadUT|WorkDoes that code take up any memory?
00:40.05SkrullGreetings folks, my first time to the channel.
00:40.10ckknighthey
00:40.29ckknightOverloadUT: initially, but it'll be gotten rid of upon the next GC
00:40.35ckknightso in the end, no
00:40.50ckknightsince the file itself is wrapped in one big function that is run
00:40.59snurre4 arenas against warriors the last hour.. every single hit ive taken has been crit
00:41.00ckknightso the memory it takes up is minimal and gotten rid of asap
00:43.21OverloadUT|Workckknight: Okay, that's what I was hoping.
00:43.43ckknightalright, well I'm going to get lunch and then head home
00:43.48ckknightcya all later
00:44.08Chomperssnurre: you on a patched realm?
00:44.13SkrullI had a quick question about the 'public' functions under AceLibrary and how it manages multiple addons, is it basically the Lua documentations multiple inheritance method?
00:44.16WobWorkNeoTron: What sound do you suggest?
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00:44.22WobWorkI was thinking maybe the murloc noise
00:44.30WobWorkcause that -always- gets my attention =)
00:44.32ckknightSkrull: you're thinking AceOO, my guess
00:44.50ckknightSkrull: it does not use the standard lua prototyping method, it uses an extension of that
00:44.54SkrullWell I've been looking at both, was trying to put together a more OO approach
00:45.03ckknightkergoth and I are the ones who worked on that most, mostly kergoth
00:45.06ckknightalright, gtg
00:45.12Skrullthanks
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00:58.57knarf^ilifin what do you use to convert your tga to jpg? :>
00:59.12ilifinmacs tage screenshots in jpg
00:59.14ilifintake*
00:59.41JJSheetsirfanview is a good program to use to convert
01:00.02OverloadUT|WorkI really like FastStone Image Viewer
01:00.06OverloadUT|WorkIt's free and can convert
01:00.18snurregah.. me and the warr died so now it's just restoshaman vs restoshaman.. for about 15mins
01:00.20OverloadUT|WorkIt's like ACDSee was before all the bloat
01:00.51pastamancerseconding irfanview
01:03.06binderI still use acdsee, wish there was a "lite" version ofit
01:04.00vhaarrirfanview, I think
01:05.14snurregod, resto vs resto is so damn boring.. they even agreed to do a ghostwolf duel, but when they got low both cheated and healed with NS
01:06.02JJSheetslol
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01:15.24OverloadUT|WorkWhen a loot window is open, can you tell what it is being looted from?
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01:17.16snurreFINALLY
01:17.21snurre35min 2v2 arena fight
01:17.32JJSheetswho won? the resto shaman, or the resto shaman?
01:17.34JJSheetslol
01:17.39snurremy resto shaman :p
01:18.01snurrehe went into elemental gear and got lucky on the 4th warstomp
01:18.51CIA-1803fenlis * r29665 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
01:18.51CIA-18Babble-2.2:
01:18.51CIA-18- Updated localization koKR
01:21.37snurrehttp://crit-happens.net/snurre/restoarena.jpg
01:22.43Ordogand all that for 11 rating ;P
01:22.49JJSheetslol 35 min
01:23.15snurre60secs of hardcore pvp, 34mins of resto bashing
01:23.35JJSheetshahah
01:24.00snurrethe warrior was trying to convince his friend to give up, but he refused :(
01:24.05JJSheetshah
01:25.10JJSheetsthat's hilarious the shamans have around 4x the damage you and the warrior had.  :p
01:26.18snurrecause we died in <1min
01:26.35JJSheetslol I know... I think it's funny as hell :)
01:26.36snurrewe died at the same time and the shamans just kept going
01:26.37snurre:p
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01:44.42VII|Beherithi there
01:44.49VII|Beheritgot one question.... GRID
01:44.58VII|Beheritim looking for predfiened layouts
01:45.02VII|Beheritsomething like: http://img11.picsplace.to/img.php?file=img10/22/karadown.jpg
01:45.04VII|Beherityou see there
01:45.13VII|Beheritis there anything like that?
01:47.03OverloadUT|WorkLooks like a standard layout just with the scale turned up
01:48.07VII|Beheritmhm
01:48.34VII|Beheritand 2nd question
01:48.47VII|Beheritis there a way to get countdown numbers in bartender3
01:48.56CIA-1803gagorian * r29666 10DrDamage/ (Data/Mage.lua Data/Warlock.lua DrDamage.lua ItemSets.lua):
01:48.56CIA-18DrDamage:
01:48.56CIA-18-Added a few missing relics. Changed Demonic Tactics from 5% dam to 5% crit (patch change). Prevented a few demonology effects from incorrectly applying to life tap.
01:49.11VII|Beheritsince cdc has removed bartender3 :/
01:49.41KemayoInstall OmniCC?
01:50.43VII|Beheritthats not an ace2 addon right?
01:50.43KemayoNope.
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01:50.47VII|Beheritmhm
01:50.57KemayoWe don't let that bother us, though.
01:51.16VII|Beheritkk :D
01:51.20snurrethere are ace2 cooldown coutners
01:51.39VII|Beheritwhich are called?
01:51.51snurreCooldownCount
01:51.52snurre:p
01:52.02VII|Beheritthat doesnt work for BT3 anymore!
01:52.06VII|Beheritthats my prob
01:52.09snurre?!?
01:53.16VII|Beheritdoes it?
01:53.39VII|Beheritchangelog:
01:53.44VII|Beheritr24963 | solor | 2007-01-13 11:55:06 -0500 (Sat, 13 Jan 2007) | 2 lines
01:53.44VII|BeheritCooldownCount:
01:53.44VII|Beherit- working with 2.0 now, since cooldowncount was removed from bartender3 :(
01:54.02snurreafaik it means that the builtin was removed
01:54.07snurreso they made this work instaed
01:54.45VII|Beheritmhm need to check again gimme a sec
01:54.45snurrei ran WAU update before i logged in 2h ago
01:54.45snurreworks for me
01:54.56VII|Beherityour right works
01:54.58VII|Beheritthx god
01:55.25VII|Beheritrofl i got too many questions :D
01:55.36VII|Beherit-CooldownTimers2
01:55.52VII|Beheritis this normal that some shaman spells wont work?
01:56.16VII|Beheritmy NaturesSwiftness and few other spells even if set in config wont display
02:00.21CIA-1803kemayo * r29667 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Sort quests in the tracker by level. (Previously sorted by whatever order Lua felt like turning them up in.)
02:01.04CIA-1803gagorian * r29668 10DrDamage/Data/Priest.lua:
02:01.04CIA-18DrDamage:
02:01.04CIA-18-PW:S receives now 20% of +healing.
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02:03.06JoshBorkei guess i need to update my mods now...
02:04.52Funkeh`YES AT INCREASED THREAT REDUCTION
02:04.55Funkeh`NO AT VE NERF
02:05.03Funkeh`now /end rant
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02:05.10JJSheetslol poor Funkeh`
02:05.19Gagorianyou mean... reduced threat reduction? :O
02:05.25Funkeh`but i have to use fade as sahdow now?? wtf?!?
02:05.30Funkeh`i meant fade
02:05.35GagorianAh!
02:06.07Funkeh`i was doing heroics tonight nuking the crap out of stuff and dieing jsut to get my biggest ve crit
02:06.16Funkeh`for the very last time...
02:06.38Gagorianwell what was your record? :P
02:06.48Funkeh`1.6k
02:06.58GagorianThat's pretty nice
02:07.02Funkeh`yeah
02:07.12Funkeh`but i died soon after ^^
02:08.15Funkeh`one of the best points made up in a priest post on us forums, why reduce ve healing done to 15% when a few months ago you gave us the talents to increase its healing
02:08.21CIA-1803archarodim * r29669 10Decursive/ (QuoiDeNeuf.txt Readme.txt WhatsNew.txt lisez-moi.txt):
02:08.21CIA-18Decursive:
02:08.21CIA-18- Fixed typo concerning "Ace2" (Ace is not an acronym
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02:10.00Funkeh`stargate ep19 out vhaarr and others
02:11.40Gagoriandownloading it right now
02:11.56GagorianDoesn't seem like a filler episode this time :p
02:12.37Funkeh`heh
02:14.38Funkeh`us patch out?
02:15.23ckknightFunkeh`: yep
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02:27.39OverloadUT|WorkI told a GM that writing my addon was hurting my brain, and he suggested Tylenol. They have a use outside of Azeroth!
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02:33.13ckknightlol
02:33.25ckknightwhy were you talking to a GM?
02:34.19Funkeh`qft
02:34.33Funkeh`gm know screw all abotu the game
02:34.44Funkeh`post the same question 3 times you get completely different asnwers
02:34.59Funkeh`is there a spam filter for gold websites, no, no, yes
02:35.03Funkeh`?!? right
02:35.30[dRaCo]afaik there's one, but it doesn't work ^^
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03:00.31binderhmm
03:00.44bindermy mines suddenly stopped showing up in cartographer
03:00.47Funkeh``_i wish they gave a higher upload rate with that 8mb -_-
03:01.06bindermy skulls are still visible
03:01.10bindermines are gone
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03:17.03Soullessis there a standalone mod which switches bars based on stealth for druids?
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03:25.56nymbiaFunkeh` is bad
03:27.16binderanyone know if mining in cartographer is broke?
03:28.02Chompersfixed a few hours ago
03:28.41WobWorkvhaarr_: Any ideas as to the MrPlow bank sorting issues? Could it be a PT3 problem in that we've listed the wrong categories?
03:28.44binderweird, thought I just updated
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03:31.13vhaarrWobWork: I have no idea, and frankly I don't really care either.
03:31.26vhaarrI use MrPlow to sort my inventory, and it works fine.
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03:34.08bindermines still arent' showing up after update
03:34.13WobWork=(
03:34.29Funkeh``im not bad nymbia, my isp is bad!
03:35.38WobWorkkk
03:39.10break19I have 177 addon folders... dayum. heh
03:41.30binderso umm
03:41.41bindermy database for mining got blown away?
03:42.50OverloadUTSo has anyone made the mod that let's you easily copy the Armory link to paste in a browser?
03:43.25OverloadUTbinder: I read something about that in the commit notes
03:44.13OverloadUT"Cartographer_Mining: fixed a bug causing data to be nuked. If you lost data go see the thread on the forums for mining data"
03:44.45CIA-1803funkydude * r29670 10Grid/ (. Grid.toc): Grid: remove space in toc, properly convert to utf-8
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03:50.16binderOverloadUT which forums, general wowace?
03:50.23OverloadUTNo idea
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03:53.28ckknightSeƱor Plow no es macho es solamente un gurracho
03:55.40Funkeh``_orly?
04:02.21binderck, what forums for mining data? checked wowace and the bugtrac page
04:04.56OverloadUTbinder: It was kagaro's commit
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04:09.15OverloadUTWhat does the "Smooth Lighting" setting do in WoW?
04:09.40Funkeh``_makes lighting smoother!
04:09.41OverloadUTAnd why did no one tell me that turning on anisotropic filtering makes the game look WAY better?
04:10.00Soullessis there a standalone mod which switches bars based on stealth for druids?
04:10.17OverloadUTFunkeh``_: Heh. On all the other options they provide a clue as to whether its to improve or decrease performance, but on that one they just say "Enables smooth lighting across characters!"
04:10.27Funkeh``_yeah hehe
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04:15.40NightHawkTheSanesigns your party are all idiots: you wipe on the second pull in blood furnaces.
04:18.41ckknightbinder: no idea
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04:27.09NeoTronErrors: Quixote:184 cannot compare nil to a number     229: invalid argument #1 to table.insert (nil)
04:27.24NeoTronlatest version (from files.wowace)
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04:29.27PProvostckknight, wasn't Cartographer_Waypoints supposed to take over for CorpseWay? Ever since I removed Corpse, I don't get my nice little ghost arrow anymore. Do I need to do something?
04:30.13ckknightI have no idea.
04:30.21ckknightWobin took that part over
04:33.17HjalteCan anyone tell me what addon it is, or just one of them, that shows me a bar with the 5 second rule?
04:33.19KemayoNeoTron: What other mods are you running?
04:34.59chutwigHjalte: regenfu
04:35.29NightHawkTheSanehey, is the pally taunt a trained skill or a talent?
04:35.32Hjaltechutwig: thanks
04:35.39KemayoNeoTron: Also, does the error keep happening?
04:35.41chutwigtrained
04:35.44NightHawkTheSaneokay
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05:01.27ZealotOnAStick~seen nymbia
05:02.10purlnymbia is currently on #wowi-lounge (6h 34m 37s) #wowace (6h 34m 37s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1h 36m 14s, last said: 'Funkeh` is bad'.
05:02.36ZealotOnASticknymbia, ping
05:03.04ZealotOnAStickhttp://ace.pastey.net/7837 - error with MobMitigation I got when a wand shot of mine was resisted.
05:05.28nymbiaZealotOnAStick: thanks :)
05:08.25CIA-1803nymbia * r29671 10MobMitigation/MobMitigation.lua:
05:08.25CIA-18MobMitigation:
05:08.25CIA-18- Fix for error on resisted wand shots
05:09.16vhaarrckknight: It seems Parser-3.0 doesn't register heals from the Lifestealing enchant. Servers are down, so I can't get the exact combat log message now, though.
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05:39.45Kirkburn|afkI hope this post is interesting or informative! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5114.0
05:39.54Kirkburn|afkI think I got the right channel this time :P
05:40.20Kirkburn|afkThree channels beginning with #wow... argh
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05:42.03CIA-1803funkydude * r29672 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: SC: finish prep
05:46.45ArrowmasterPProvost: theres an option in the menu under waypoints to turn on the corpse arrow
05:47.48PProvostAhh... thanks. Wish the default were "on". :)
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05:59.27CIA-1803zuno * r29673 10UnitActionBars/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
05:59.27CIA-18UnitActionBars:
05:59.27CIA-18- Fixed an issue with the blink visual effect not working.
05:59.27CIA-18- Updated cyCircled support.
05:59.53CIA-1803zuno * r29674 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
05:59.54CIA-18UnitActionBars:
05:59.54CIA-18- Updated TOC revision
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06:03.36poptixi have sinned
06:03.46deltronoic
06:03.50poptixi looked upon the TheoryCraft source
06:04.10poptixthen I fixed 7 or 8 bugs
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06:04.22poptixI feel as though I've fed the devil himself
06:06.22ZealotOnAStickNahhhh.
06:06.32ZealotOnAStickGo muck about with the TrinityBars code for a bit.
06:06.37ZealotOnAStickThen see how you feel.
06:09.30poptixheh
06:09.34poptixi gave up on trinity
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06:14.35ckknightwhat does UnitActionBars do?
06:18.07NightHawkTheSaneer.. unit specific action bars, according to the description
06:18.23Arrowmasterlike groupbuttons i think
06:18.50CyrezIt's some kind of uber click-casting/macro thing. I'd have to read more to make sense of it.
06:19.20NightHawkTheSaneYeah, i think it's supposed to be like GroupButtons
06:19.50CyrezIt looks a little too complicated for my style of play.
06:21.37CyrezThere's a full Wiki on it but that's too much reading for me.
06:21.51NightHawkTheSane"Come on, how often do you get to travel to an alien planet?" "I was already ON an alien planet"
06:27.56vhaarrpastamancer: Where is Roster-2.2? I want reliable joined/left raid events that I don't have to duplicate in every mod I make!
06:30.43Funkeh`no you don't you love it and its fun
06:33.32Funkeh`man whats with waiting a whole week for the next stargate ep :/
06:35.20pastamancervhaarr: it's slow due to the pet stuff
06:35.25pastamancerI can pastey what I have so far
06:35.32vhaarrpastamancer: Ah, waiting for the promised API changes?
06:35.41vhaarrNah, no need, I was just teasing.
06:35.48pastamancernah, just slacking
06:35.55vhaarralright
06:37.10pastamancerhttp://ace.pastey.net/7850
06:38.28ZealotOnAStickGah.  I can't get a working download for SG1 S10E16 anywhere.
06:38.29pastamancerhalf the fun is completely re-writing the unit iterator each version
06:40.05Funkeh`http://www.mininova.org/tor/582546
06:41.05ZealotOnASticktrying that one, as well as the CRNTV one . . . both saying the trackers are offline.
06:41.14CIA-1803funkydude * r29675 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua:
06:41.14CIA-18BigWigs: Outland/Gruul:
06:41.14CIA-18- update koKR
06:41.21Funkeh`O_o
06:41.26ZealotOnASticktried both eztv and mininova, in fact.
06:41.43vhaarrI use bitmetv, it has everything.
06:43.01ZealotOnAStickapparently an invite-only community?
06:43.09vhaarryes
06:43.22Funkeh`vhaarr is special :o
06:43.30vhaarrnah
06:43.42vhaarrbut the problem is that if I invite someone that does not get a good ratio, I'm kicked as well
06:43.52Funkeh`Oo
06:43.56vhaarrso I'll only invite IRL friends because I can actually smack their face if they fuck up
06:44.02Funkeh`lol
06:44.12ZealotOnAStickYeah, I tried on Torrential as well, but it only shows one seeder and I'm not getting any showing up.
06:45.08ZealotOnAStickBah.  I've got over 1.5 ratios on every private site I'm on.  
06:45.20MedlirHmm, what's up with AceCommZone channel?
06:45.26MedlirIt took over channel 1 and won't go away.  :P
06:47.09Funkeh`its got something to do wiht OverloadUT's sucky addon i think
06:47.18Funkeh`:p
06:47.27MedlirWhich one is that?
06:47.31CIA-1803fenlis * r29676 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua: BigWigs: Updated localization koKR
06:47.37vhaarrlol
06:47.43vhaarrFunkeh`: Didn't you just commit a koKR update?
06:47.48Funkeh`quest objectives
06:47.57MedlirAh.
06:47.58pastamancervhaarr: finish roster-2.2 for me :)
06:48.02Funkeh`vhaarr ffs they fight seriously they change the triggers every day
06:48.11vhaarrpastamancer: no way, I have other things to worry about
06:48.26Funkeh`i think theres about 4 fo them periodically changing it to what they want
06:48.40vhaarrI'm also supposed to write some help library, hopefully I'll get to that soon
06:49.04Funkeh`cartographer quest objectives i hear medlir
06:50.14Funkeh`vhaarr actually its a genuine change because i changed the warning from 5 seconds to soon, i wish we had that quick localization updating for other locales
06:50.25vhaarrokay
06:50.46vhaarrmy "lol" still applies due to the speedyness of the update
06:51.06Funkeh`indeed
06:51.27Funkeh`anyway, time to sleep, good night
06:51.32vhaarrnn
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07:17.00lhunathcan somebody put TinyTip's libs in a libs/ directory?
07:17.21lhunathmore specifically, its Ace*/ directories.
07:18.07vhaarrwhy does that matter?
07:18.18lhunathI'm writing an application that updates addons but need to keep things clean and am trying to get rid of all embedded dependencies
07:18.37vhaarryou'd have to ask thrae about that
07:18.45MedlirYou mean like the WowAceUpdater?
07:18.53lhunathcan't you just svn mv it?
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07:19.09vhaarrI can change it, but it's his addons, so ask him about it.
07:19.11lhunathmedlir: yes.  But in Java, and integrated with an uploader for wow roster.
07:19.36lhunath~seen thrae
07:20.06purlthrae <n=generalm@c-68-49-121-236.hsd1.md.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 19h 53m 19s ago, saying: 'Cute.'.
07:20.21lhunathhm, okay.
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07:27.16PHL-Chucksince I made my warlock I've been noticing mobs running past me alot on pulls.. its like bad lag but I'm not lagging
07:27.26sylvanaarfor prat, i made a file embeds.xml that has all the embedded libraries - just to be different
07:28.03lhunathsadly it's not much use if not all addons follow the habbit
07:29.05sylvanaarits useful for me, other addons can do things their own way
07:29.50lhunathis it possible to retrieve people's talent trees through the wow api?
07:30.41PHL-Chuckaddon request, an "I win" button
07:30.59binderdeathcoil what?
07:31.17PHL-Chuckwhat level is that? Im a 26 lock right now lol
07:31.20CIA-1803rabbit * r29677 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: We need a reference to the option table added to the BigWigs object before oninit is run on BigWigsLoD.
07:31.21binderlol
07:31.31lhunathcurse of doom.
07:31.35PHL-Chuckmy gf said "I had this char".. she kept dying
07:31.41binderanyone know what forums kagaro is referring to in his commit notes?
07:31.50binderI think it's lv42
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07:34.02PHL-Chuckhmm whats up with looting, I got my autoloot on like usual but its missing quest items now
07:34.17PHL-Chuckjust ran 1/2 way back and noticed I didnt have that bears paw for the quest sigh
07:35.37binderit messes up sometimes
07:35.45PHL-Chuckcry
07:36.18vhaarrindeed, if you click two times on a corpse, for example, or don't wait for the loot window to actually open before moving
07:36.21vhaarrstuff like that
07:36.26PHL-Chuckwouldnt be so bad on a pve server but ashenvale is dangerous on pvp lol
07:36.46PHL-Chuckyeah I'll double check but it seems worse then normal
07:37.47vhaarrsylvanaar: You know that sound you get when you recieve a whisper? Is there any way to prevent that sound?
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07:37.53vhaarrsylvanaar: API-wise, I mean, not with Prat.
07:38.47vhaarrAnd why the fuck doesn't returning nil in ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler stop messages from appearing in other frames except DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME?
07:39.53vhaarrhrm, maybe that's a SCM problem
07:40.36hastesecurehook PlaySound, output a debugstack and see where it comes from?
07:40.42vhaarryeah I would do that
07:40.45vhaarrbut the servers are down
07:40.48vhaarrso I'm asking instead
07:40.53hastesome servers are up in EU vhaarr :)
07:40.56vhaarrrly
07:40.59hasteya rly
07:41.02hastelike 15 or so
07:41.06vhaarrw00t
07:41.15vhaarrand here I am, coding in the blind
07:41.16vhaarrtsk tsk
07:42.59vhaarrAah, the joy of creating characters on new realms because your other 10 realms are down.
07:43.11JJSheetslol
07:43.59vhaarryay, the name "Testmonkey" was available
07:44.35JJSheetsbwahahahaha
07:45.57NightHawkTheSaneum. grats?
07:46.04vhaarrahaha
07:46.10vhaarrthere are like 40 level 1 chars here
07:46.26vhaarrooh, a level 2
07:46.28vhaarrimbaness
07:46.41NightHawkTheSanehave you created  <My Mains Realm Is Down> yet?
07:47.05vhaarrfortunately, my name starts with an uppercase t
07:47.21vhaarr:(
07:47.23binderyou guys know what forums kagaro is referring to in his commit notes? I've checked like 6 now :)
07:47.34NightHawkTheSanearnt charater names relatively case insensetive anyway? :
07:47.35NightHawkTheSane:P
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07:49.09hastevhaarr: noticed that the only realms up are the once with names from outlands?
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07:49.50vhaarrhaste: probably because they are on the newest server cluster or something
07:49.54vhaarrbut no, I didn't notice that
07:50.07bindernightfall is up
07:50.11binderthe battlegroup
07:50.45vhaarrI'm on Hellfire, if anyone wants to annoy me with /duel spam.
07:51.06hastejust run into a house
07:52.46vhaarrI haven't seen this much lowlevel activity since release.
07:52.56vhaarrno, actually, there's more now
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08:01.14ZealotOnAStickbinder: which commit notes?
08:01.22CIA-1803rabbit * r29678 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua type/Symphony.lua): BananaDKP: Sync with the current revision.
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08:01.35nee|workHm. They went a bit overboard if you ask me in Vista with things like a read-only Program Files dir
08:01.44binderchangelog-r29658
08:04.31Industrialvhaarr: hellfire eu? what side? i play there.
08:04.39vhaarrIndustrial: horde
08:04.42Industrialvhaarr: but im at work atm tho :<
08:04.44Industrialaw im alliance
08:04.53Industrialmeh its a normal server i could roll a hordie :D
08:05.57NightHawkTheSaneewww, alliance!
08:06.44vhaarrIndustrial: it's a "my realm is down" character, I do not plan on playing :P
08:06.53Industrialah :p
08:07.03vhaarralthough I *am* level 2 already!
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08:07.59Industrial6 in 28mins etc :P
08:08.20binder7 bars from 70 on my warrior
08:08.25binderit'll be world record time
08:08.32binder125 days+ /played
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08:08.57nee|workIndustrial: You can roll Horde and Alliance on a PvE server?
08:09.49Industrialyes
08:10.00vhaarrindeed you can
08:10.46nee|workwow.
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08:13.50Fisker-yarr
08:17.17binderZealotOnAStick you find it?
08:18.05vhaarrAww, realms down again ><
08:18.16ZealotOnAStickOh, sorry, missed it in the text earlier.  which addon is 29658 for?
08:18.25CIA-1803athou * r29679 10Taggle/ (. Taggle.lua Taggle.toc):
08:18.25CIA-18Taggle: initial commit
08:18.25CIA-18- Simple lightweight goldsellers antispam
08:19.20ZealotOnAStickAll I see in 29658 is "typo fixed"
08:19.45vhaarrThat's not simple and lightweight.
08:21.35[Ammo]mornig
08:21.45CIA-1803athou * r29680 10Taggle/:
08:21.45CIA-18Taggle:
08:21.45CIA-18- adding externals
08:21.45vhaarrhi ho
08:23.53binderfor cartographer mining
08:27.41Industrialtoo bad you cant force people to understand things
08:27.46Industrial:P
08:28.24NightHawkTheSaneSure you can, it just requires a 2 by 4.
08:28.48Fisker-How do i shot web?
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08:29.51IndustrialHOW I MINE FOR FISH
08:30.10pastamancerI thought it was "HOW I MINE FISH"
08:31.12Industrialhttp://www.zestuff.com/vgcats/apparel/20/\
08:31.14Industrialhttp://www.zestuff.com/vgcats/apparel/20/
08:31.53vhaarrhaha
08:32.21vhaarrthat's brilliant
08:32.23CIA-1803athou * r29681 10EnchantList/localization.lua:
08:32.23CIA-18EnchantList:
08:32.23CIA-18- fix for frFR
08:32.26Industrial^^
08:32.31Industrialthe rait flail one is also fun
08:32.32Industrial:p
08:33.17IndustrialIts from this strip: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=110
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08:35.56Industrialand if tyou like comics and RPG/DND, Order of the Stick is a must.
08:36.09Industrialhttp://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html
08:36.28NightHawkTheSaneoots rocks
08:36.47Industrialwebcomics + google reader = secks
08:36.55CIA-1803athou * r29682 10Taggle/ (Taggle.lua Taggle.toc localization.lua):
08:36.55CIA-18Taggle:
08:36.55CIA-18- frFR localization
08:37.38Industrialbtw
08:37.44SunTigerIndustrial, google reader ?
08:37.48Industrialisnt it about time to purge the svn of dead addons? :D
08:37.56Industrialits becoming rather large
08:38.04IndustrialSunTiger: yeh rss reader
08:38.11Industrialgoogle.com/reader
08:38.33SunTigerinteresting
08:38.43Fisker-Yeah
08:38.51Fisker-BY !2.0.x BE PURGED!
08:39.22Industrialhaha
08:39.34Fisker-NOOOO
08:39.43Fisker-Your darn'ded site crashed me
08:39.54Industrialtheres also some duplicate addons around, should encourage ppl to cooperate :P
08:40.19Fisker-yeah just merge em
08:40.19Fisker-:P
08:40.58Fisker-How can a RSS Reader be hard? :O
08:41.22vhaarrYou mean making one?
08:41.26Fisker-Granted i probably wouldn't be able to make anything as cool, but hey they got years of experience and lots of staff
08:41.33Fisker-oh yeah
08:41.37vhaarrHave you ever worked with any web standards?
08:41.42Industrial--^
08:41.43Fisker-Not much
08:41.54vhaarrIndeed, you would not be asking that question then :P
08:42.02Industrialwoah
08:42.07Industrial*feels the caffeine rush*
08:43.16nee|work*sips tea*
08:43.47NightHawkTheSane*waits for his water to purify*
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08:44.05art3mishah nice comic industrial
08:44.12art3misthe stickmen ninjas rule
08:44.17CIA-1803pastamancer * r29683 10Grid/ (GridLocale-enUS.lua GridStatusHeals.lua):
08:44.17CIA-18Grid:
08:44.18CIA-18* GridStatusHeals: added option to ignore heals cast by the player.
08:44.27Industrialcaffeine is like my spinach.
08:44.52Industrialart3mis: the strip has 400+ ep's now ;)
08:46.50CIA-1803elkano * r29684 10SharedMediaLib/: Created folder remotely
08:46.51Fisker-Didn't kaelten use rss for files now?
08:47.36NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: yes, there's a latest.xml file that's autogenerated
08:49.11evlSo what's up with zero ag_UnitFrames updates :/
08:50.01Industrialmaybe its good as it is?
08:50.13vhaarrit's not, it has a number of problems
08:50.27vhaarrbut it's such an abomination, I'm not ready to touch it yet
08:50.56evlWell for one it's pretty bloated
08:51.02evlEither you get nothing or everything
08:51.21CIA-1803elkano * r29685 10SharedMediaLib/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
08:51.21CIA-18.SharedMedia-1.0
08:51.21CIA-18- initial commit
08:51.21CIA-18- Shared handling of media data (fonts, sounds, textures, ...) between addons
08:51.22CIA-18- based on SurfaceLib by haste/otravi
08:51.41evland stuff like including the monsterous 90k tablet lib just to call it's AddHint function _once_ is a bit retarded.
08:52.39evlIndustrial: default frames ftw? :P
08:53.40nee|workHm. I just read that disabling Triple Buffering in WoW on Vista increases performance drastically. Trying that when I get home ;)
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08:55.23vhaarrhahaha
08:55.26vhaarrhttp://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415179
08:55.47evlhirr
08:56.20Industrialevl: yesh, well modified a bit.
08:56.58Industrialunder my char and portraits become class icons
08:57.20evlI lose focus of what's in the middle of the screen with the frames that distant
08:57.44Industrial.. thats why i put them there
08:57.53Industrialto not have to look up all the time
08:58.57evlaha :D
08:59.06evldidn't quite understand that first one :)
09:00.34CIA-1803athou * r29686 10Taggle/Taggle.toc:
09:00.35CIA-18Taggle:
09:00.35CIA-18- TOC update
09:05.58Arrowmasterbah my system crashed, could somebody thats been in here a while do me a favor and do a search on their chat buffer for antiarc's result.html page link
09:07.20nee|workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/results.html
09:07.35Aens|Superiorityhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/results.html
09:07.46nee|workhurray for url logger
09:07.58Arrowmasterthanks
09:08.24nee|work:)
09:08.37Arrowmasterwhat was the file extension for the source to that, that he posted right after that
09:08.58CIA-1803next96 * r29687 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2.lua:
09:08.58CIA-18Babble-2.2:
09:08.58CIA-18- Update locale koKR
09:09.22nee|worker
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09:09.44nee|workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/getArenaRankings.rb
09:09.45nee|workthat?
09:09.57Arrowmasteryeah
09:10.00nee|workok
09:10.10nee|workThen it was .rb :D
09:10.25CIA-1803next96 * r29688 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua:
09:10.25CIA-18Babble-2.2:
09:10.26CIA-18- Update locale koKR
09:11.25Arrowmasteri need to stop leaving wow running and alt-tabing out, i think my graphics card errored out and crashed my system while i was working on something
09:11.36CIA-1803next96 * r29689 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2.lua:
09:11.36CIA-18Babble-2.2:
09:11.37CIA-18- Update locale koKR
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09:19.35nee|workArrowmaster: :|
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09:23.16Cyrez[2007/03/07 01:12:31-170-x1]: ArcHUD2\Rings\TargetCasting.lua:196: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'endTime' (a nil value)
09:26.08nee|workhttp://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=134
09:35.13CIA-1803adirelle * r29690 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua: CastYeller: typo fix.
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09:43.54Fisker-Nice
09:44.07Fisker-I just bypassed the login and got to the realm selection O_o
09:44.23nevcairiellol
09:44.38nevcairielmy realm is still down :(
09:45.22Fisker-same
09:45.32Fisker-but i guess you're on US?
09:45.40nevcairielno
09:45.41nevcairielEU
09:45.59nevcairielunforsee glitch my ass
09:46.00nevcairiel:D
09:46.01Fisker-oh
09:46.11Fisker-Well EU isn't supposed to be up until 15 minutes
09:46.36Bibii feel like it will be longer
09:46.41nevcairieli know that
09:46.41BibiEU forums just went offline
09:46.53nevcairielbut didnt you see the list of realms on login which will be down longer ? :P
09:46.53Bibidoesn't look good ^^
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09:49.59Fisker-nah neenee
09:49.59Fisker-nevcairiel
09:49.59Fisker-shitty list can't update realtime
09:50.47jjb_good morning
09:51.15Fisker-Morning
09:51.19Fisker-(Nothing good about it)
09:51.21Fisker-HEH
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09:55.39nee|workmorning
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10:02.35nee|workhttp://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=185 lol.
10:03.07NightHawkTheSanethat -was- a good one
10:03.21nee|workIt is not anymore?
10:03.54nee|workWell, I think it is.
10:04.03NightHawkTheSaneerm
10:04.05NightHawkTheSanei guess it still is
10:04.12NightHawkTheSane>.>
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10:05.20nee|work:)
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10:19.15Industrialhaha its a darn good one
10:22.33nee|work:)
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10:23.07Punkie`Hey guys silly question inc:
10:23.29Punkie`I thought DamageMeters looked a bit boring so I thought it would be nice if it had bantobar in it
10:23.41Punkie`so i changed <BarTexture file="Interface\TargetingFrame\UI-StatusBar"/> in the xml to <BarTexture file="Interface\DamageMeters\BantoBar"/>
10:23.56Punkie`(ofc put BantoBar.tga into the DamageMeters folder)
10:24.10Punkie`any reason why it now looks ugly, green and doesn't class colour? :(
10:24.56nymbiafile="Interface\DamageMeters\BantoBar"/ -> file="Interface\AddOns\DamageMeters\BantoBar"/  ?
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10:26.36Punkie`sigh, im dumb
10:27.11nevcairielif you insist
10:27.34oKarnpurl, Punkie` is dumb
10:27.36purloKarn: okay
10:27.40oKarn~punkie`
10:27.42purlfrom memory, punkie` is dumb
10:27.46nevcairiellol
10:28.12Punkie`:(
10:28.47Punkie`anyway, if I wanted to remove the 'box' around the 'Damage Done' text etc
10:29.05Punkie`should I just replace that with a blank tga?
10:29.25[Ammo]pwned :p
10:29.40[Ammo]just use Violation, no bars, just info
10:29.56nymbiaa transparent one should work just fine yea
10:30.48Punkie`I would use Violation, but it doesn't pick up damage done from people who don't have the mod, right?
10:30.54nevcairielyea
10:30.58[Ammo]indeed
10:31.03[Ammo]but those people are not worthy anyway
10:31.20[Ammo]last night me and johnny were worthy enough :p
10:31.31Punkie`ammo, you can't even get people in our guild to download bigwigs or ora :P
10:31.38[Ammo]shrug
10:31.47[Ammo]that's because they're silly
10:32.06nevcairielour raidleaders are totaly into deadly bossmods right now .. wonder if i can turn them again
10:32.24Punkie`Deadly is just LA with a new name?
10:32.28[Ammo]yeah
10:32.32[Ammo]to each their own I say
10:32.42Punkie`shrug
10:32.44Fisker-Anyone know of an addon to keep track of idiots i group with? :P
10:32.47nevcairielit would be helpful if everybody uses the same
10:32.53nevcairielfor syncing and custom bars sake :P
10:33.05Punkie`Fisker- you can use VanasKoS for that, and stick them in your Hate list >:D
10:33.08[Ammo]shrug
10:33.08nevcairielFisker-: ignore list
10:33.10NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: define "keep track of", I dont think babysitting falls into the purvue of addons
10:33.31Punkie`Ammo, did you see that nice looking warlock mod Xus from Forte made?
10:33.36Fisker-what do you mean with babysitting?
10:33.48[Ammo]Punkie`: nope
10:34.03Fisker-nevcairiel ignore list is limited and i don't want to ignore them
10:34.10Fisker-ignoring is for newbs
10:34.12Punkie`[Ammo]: http://forte.thomsound.se/viewtopic.php?t=3740
10:34.17Fisker-or something like that
10:35.29[Ammo]oh noes, lots of globals
10:35.39Punkie`looks cute though
10:36.10[Ammo]shrug
10:36.14NightHawkTheSaneyou need an addon to keep track of what your warlocks are doing?
10:36.23[Ammo]naah
10:37.12Fisker-no i mean something like noting a player went offline or ninjaed in an instance
10:37.18Fisker-just for a couple of examples
10:38.01Punkie`Fisker-: Shrug, I use vanas for that
10:38.13Fisker-vanakos?
10:38.22Punkie`ya
10:38.43[Ammo]I have only one entry in my hatelist
10:38.49[Ammo]Punkie: damn rogue
10:38.56Punkie`:(
10:38.59[Ammo]it's on a postit on my monitor
10:39.03[Ammo]no need for an addon
10:39.11Punkie`sigh
10:39.19Fisker-you forgot me?
10:39.26Punkie`[Ammo]: Make me an in-game gnome tamagotchi dammit!
10:39.32[Ammo]no way jose
10:39.48Punkie`ah man, it can look like me too; what a great idea
10:43.51evlhttp://i15.tinypic.com/2lt3ls8.jpg
10:43.52evlhaha
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10:45.10NightHawkTheSaneo_0
10:45.40nee|workhttp://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=213 oO
10:48.18binderanyone got an outlands .lua file for cartographer mining? mine got nuked and kagaro's note: If you lost data go see the thread on the forums for mining data doens't really point me anywhere lol
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10:49.26trhhi
10:49.35nee|workhello
10:50.58Fisker-hello
10:51.45winkillerBibi: sec
10:51.49winkiller*binder
10:51.56binderyea?
10:52.24Bibibah ... i thought i had a friend :(
10:52.26nee|workhttp://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=224
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10:52.37winkillerwhere and how should that lua reside?
10:52.44winkiller*called I mean
10:52.55Bibi\o/
10:52.55Bibithanks !
10:53.16nee|work:)
10:53.17Bibii'll make an advertising sign for my website with it.
10:53.31binderit's in WTF\Account\(accountname)\SavedVariables\ it's called Cartographer_Mining.lua
10:53.41winkillerok, sec
10:54.10Punkie`nee|work: oh dear @ 213 :P
10:54.14winkillerah, wrong computer. it's only up to Nagrand :/
10:54.16winkillerstill a help?
10:54.26nee|workPunkie`: Indeed oO
10:55.03Grollbinder check the database sharing thread in the forums
10:55.25nee|workBibi: ;)
10:55.42binderlol
10:55.44binderwhich forums
10:55.52Grollwowace.com
10:56.04binderunder which actual forum?
10:56.05Grollclick forums, then addons, then cartographer
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10:57.56binderahh ok
10:57.58binderlol
10:58.05binderguess I looked everywhere but there for the past 8 hours
10:58.10Grolllol :P
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10:59.44CIA-1803elkano * r29691 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua:
10:59.45CIA-18.SharedMedia-1.0
10:59.45CIA-18- renamed :Iterate() to :HashTable()
10:59.45CIA-18- :Fetch() now returs nil instead of "" if no data found
10:59.46winkillerwhoa.. warrior buff
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11:00.24jjb_moin winkiller
11:00.30winkillerhi jjb_
11:00.35jjb_whoa.. mage nerf
11:00.55winkiller20% more rage.. my new 29 warrior is already DROWNING in rage
11:01.59binderit's like it was before nerf
11:02.16winkillermy warr was started post-nerf
11:02.25binderlol
11:02.30bindermine was started at patch 1.02
11:02.33Grolljjb_ no not a nerf.. a fix :)
11:02.39binderwhen warriors couldn't get rage at all
11:02.49jjb_after 2 years?
11:02.57winkillerguess I didn't even play back then, binder :)
11:03.10Grollerm ur not talking about the frost thing jjb_?
11:03.18jjb_i do
11:03.30Grollwell that havent been in for 2 years :P
11:03.42jjb_frosstnova?
11:03.47winkillerI started on 1.4
11:03.48Grollbut u cant 2shot ppl any more..
11:03.59Grollthe frozen target crit thing is what i'm talking about
11:04.16jjb_i think the FB/icelance combo is still working
11:04.29Grollthat should be fixed they said
11:04.47jjb_nope, they fixed, that freeze breaks after any crit
11:05.02Grollok that was what i meant :D
11:05.14NightHawkTheSaneyou can still fb/ice lance. but if your FB crits, your ice lance wont be agaisnt a "frozen" target.
11:05.36jjb_it will
11:05.50NightHawkTheSaneer. that's precisely what the bugfix was intended to address
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11:06.57jjb_even when the FB will break the freeze, the icelance still will have the freezestate
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11:08.07jjb_it depends if the target is freezed, when the spell is leaving your hand
11:08.37NightHawkTheSaneAs I understand it, the bug fix made it so the frozen state breaks when the spell is finished casting, as that's when the result of the spell is calculated anyway
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11:09.08jjb_the only changed that crits breaks the freeze
11:09.12jjb_they
11:09.23nee|workYes, meaning that the next cast will be without the freeze.
11:10.05jjb_yes, but for the combo FB/icelance its not important if the frostbolt breaks the freeze
11:10.17jjb_because both will hit the target at the same time
11:10.37NightHawkTheSanejjb_: simple question: have you actually tested and proven this yourself since the change was put in place?
11:10.58jjb_yes
11:10.59nee|workWell, I'm no mage, but seeing how mages are complaing about the change, there must be something done to it that makes something less good than it was before.
11:11.10Pneudon't be silly, theorycrafting is much more fun :
11:11.21NightHawkTheSanenee|work: to be fair, mages are idiots who will complain about anything.
11:11.21abbat_wbtw guys
11:11.29abbat_ware nova changes in patch?
11:11.32NightHawkTheSane(the same applies to every other class, for those of you who might be offended)
11:11.33abbat_wanyone test it?
11:12.10nee|workNightHawkTheSane: I think complaining is not restricted to one class, official-forum dwellers seem to live off of complain-threads.
11:12.12NightHawkTheSanejjb_: if you say you've actually tested this since the 2.0.10 patch, then i'll believe you.
11:12.28NightHawkTheSanenee|work: see my previous comment :P
11:12.41nee|work;)
11:12.45jjb_so my wife at home is talking bullshit :)
11:13.14Grollis it this patch that fixes the memory stuff btw?
11:13.23NightHawkTheSaneGroll: no, that's 2.1
11:13.31Grollbah :(
11:14.02wobin~seen kemayo
11:14.39purlkemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (12h 58m 34s) #wowace (12h 58m 34s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 6h 39m, last said: 'NeoTron: Also, does the error keep happening?'.
11:16.48Grollretard patcher!!!
11:18.01hasteI think it hates you too
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11:19.53NightHawkTheSaneHmm. Sleep, or another episode of sg:a?
11:21.31nevcairieldepends on your local time
11:21.35nevcairieland if you need to get up early
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11:21.42nee|workSleep, if you can not focus on sg:a without it
11:21.55trhit doesnt depend on the time. it depends on the current caffeine level
11:23.09NightHawkTheSanewell I just had a large mug of chai
11:23.21NightHawkTheSaneit's also 3:30 am, and I really have no reason to be awake tomorrow
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11:24.09Fisker-NightHawkTheSane we're already past the season finale :P
11:25.02NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: eh? I downloaded rips of the first two seasons and have been watching through those, I'm up to 114 :P
11:25.38Fisker-ah
11:25.39Fisker-:P
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11:26.06Fisker-season 3 season finale is probably the best stargate episode liek evar
11:26.27NightHawkTheSanegood to know
11:26.41NightHawkTheSaneill probably get there this weekend
11:30.03Punkie`im only up to 12 on sg:a :(
11:30.12Punkie`although up to date on sg-1
11:31.04Punkie`there's going to be 2 'movies' of sg-1 after e20 right?
11:31.55Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5075.new#new
11:31.57Industrial^^
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11:36.29NightHawkTheSaneI havnt kept up to date on sg-1. I saw a bit of season 9 but thats it. i kinda lot interest
11:36.31NightHawkTheSanelost
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11:38.12Grollo_O lost interest? geee how is that possible :P
11:39.07NightHawkTheSaneeh, I had a hard time getting into the new story arc. and as much as I love ben browder, it felt a bit forced.
11:39.55Grollheh oke
11:40.22Punkie`he's doing quite a good job taking over jack imo
11:40.47Punkie`tough role to cover, but then jack always seems to come back when you want one of his sarcastic comments :)
11:41.12NightHawkTheSanehehe
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11:46.29DhragaHi all
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11:59.12Fisker-http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin <-yay i'm on teh internets
12:00.35Nickenyfikenyäy!
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12:02.52abbat_wElvina?!
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12:18.43GrollFisker- me tooo http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Stinkfot
12:18.44Groll:P
12:21.20Punkie`Daggerspine -.-
12:21.28Punkie`People should have migrated when they had the chance!
12:22.25[Ammo]indeed
12:22.31[Ammo]Laggerspine...
12:23.13DhragaA question, I have been using Xuerian's XLoot for a long time, but from time to time I seem to not get a group popup roll on all items (playing with guild and on TS, so I hear that they comment something I cant see) Anyone else have any problems like this ? AND is there any other ace loot addon you could recommend ?
12:23.45HealthLike different profession related things?
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12:27.02Grollaint laggy any more :D
12:27.27Grolland i only started to play there cause my irl friends have a guild there.. although they are WAY to casuall :(
12:28.06GrollDhraga it could be they have the proffession and you dont have it.. thus they are the only ones who can roll
12:28.25sbuahhh new SG1
12:28.43nee|worknew season?
12:28.52nee|workI have to download!
12:28.58sbu10x19
12:29.04nee|workooh.
12:30.17wobinDhraga: Sometimes you don't get a popup if it's an item you can't use
12:30.21nee|workThe last one I've seen is 10x10 :D
12:30.23wobinGod knows when that precisely happens
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12:37.56jjb_..
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12:43.53boobies4uyoo!
12:44.28yacoobDragonforce++
12:46.01nee|workSoon I will have some, going on vacation tomorrow :)
12:46.47CIA-1803kagaro * r29692 10Cartographer_Treasure/libs/: Cartographer_Treasure - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)
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12:48.04cncfanaticsHello all ! :)
12:48.48sbuewww
12:48.55sbu10x20 is last sg1
12:49.03sbuever i guess...
12:49.07sbuonly 1 more episode????
12:50.16Bibi`ouFyup, o'neil dies in the last one
12:50.21CIA-1803kagaro * r29693 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.toc: Cartographer_Treasure: updated toc for InBed
12:50.33Bibi`ouFMr Burns kills him.
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12:50.39sbuah, nice
12:53.10nee|workThey stopped the show?
12:53.16nee|workOr made an ending?
12:53.40Bibi`ouFboth i guess
12:53.43nee|workOr rather, don't trell me
12:53.44nee|work*tell me
12:53.56nee|workIndeed. they couldn't make an ending and not stop it ;P
12:54.10nee|workwell, off home now. And vacation tomorrow - off to England :D
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12:54.36boobies4uwhat you doing in england
12:54.42boobies4unm
12:54.57yacoobwatching the game, having a bud, probably...
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12:55.09boobies4uk, i still dont get it
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12:57.51Ordoghum Groll you got all the +ap questrewards
12:58.01Ordoghow do you perfom in raidheal ? ^^
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13:07.44DhragaGroll & Wobin, thanks for your answers, that explains it... anyway to turn the feature off ?=
13:08.44[dRaCo]it's not a xloot feature... afaik it's blizz' own loot system
13:11.21oKnowsyeah
13:11.59DhragaBtw fisker & groll, if you remove the ? after wow-europe.com/ so it just reads like this http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Anachronos&n=Dhraga you will get a direct link to the char, if the ? mark exists I get sent to the search field
13:12.24Dhragadraco and oknows, ok thanks
13:13.05DhragaSo how many more here plays as a demonology lock ?
13:17.15vhaarrhttp://www.bestofgooglevideo.com/video.php?video=665
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13:17.44winkillerDhraga: I plan to respec at 50 :P
13:18.32Dhragawinkiller, to get the felguard i pressume ?
13:18.38winkilleraye
13:19.45GrollDhraga oh ok thanks
13:19.59DhragaMmm the felguard is verry nice to lvl to 70 and even for bosstanking in the 5man instances i tbc, but I think I pressume that he's no use in the heroic instances or in the raid instances =/
13:20.05DhragaGroll , ymw
13:20.25nevcairielno lock i know is demo on lvl 70
13:20.29nevcairieleveryone is affliction
13:20.38DhragaMmm or 0/40/21
13:21.03nevcairielplus my lock alt on lvl 62 is affliction as well
13:21.09nevcairieland working out pretty good so far :D
13:21.29DhragaBut i'm not raiding atm, and havent faction hunted enough for the heroic instances... so atm I still love the felguard
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13:22.49DhragaThough I'm not verry fond of the demonology nerf in this patch, i'm thinking of taking 4 points i have now from DT and put it in Imp shadowbolt to compensate for the +dmg loss
13:23.33Dhragaerr sorry.... the %dmg loss
13:23.47_neuron_can I just call OnDisable or is there a better way to trigger unregistering all events?
13:24.00vhaarr_neuron_: Read the API docs.
13:24.29sbuDhraga: ? works in MSIE, but not firefox
13:24.41_neuron_just found it now actually vhaarr, and I did read the API docs, I wouldn't be here asking before doing that.
13:24.51Dhragasbu ah thanks (firefox user here)
13:25.54sbuhmm nice to have working links w/ firefox :)
13:27.19DhragaSylvanaar; u there by any chance ?
13:28.04CIA-1803next96 * r29695 10OminousCastingBar/ (Core.lua OminousCastingBar.toc):
13:28.04CIA-18OminousCastingBar :
13:28.04CIA-18- AceLocale add (toc fix)
13:28.04CIA-18- Add Localization
13:28.04CIA-18- Add locale koKR
13:28.33Bibi`ouFdamn
13:28.39Bibi`ouFi just love blizzard serverside chat filters.
13:29.02Bibi`ouFwww.mmo-champion.com is officialy the first fansite prohibited by blizzard. http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/WTF.png :D
13:30.32Industrialwhat was mmo-champion>?
13:30.37Industrial_was_ :p
13:30.37Bibi`ouFwhat is.
13:30.45Bibi`ouFwell check it, it's my website
13:30.45Industrialwell the site aint there
13:30.49Bibi`ouFwtf.
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13:31.02Bibi`ouFwhat do you mean by site isn't here ?
13:31.19Industriallol. fix it. http://mmo-champion.com
13:31.27Industrialneeds www.
13:31.46Bibi`ouFoh ok thanks, i'll see if my sysadmin can fix this
13:31.57Industrialnp :d
13:35.27sbuhmm nice page
13:39.00Fisker-anyone know if pallypower actually supports normal buffs?
13:39.02Fisker-for party
13:39.19chutwigit doesn't
13:39.25kenlyricfixitfixitfixitfixit
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13:39.35Fisker-QQ
13:39.39Fisker-i agree with kenlyric
13:39.54Fisker-i sure as hell ain't paying 6s for buffing a party
13:39.55Fisker-:P
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13:40.12kenlyricI tried out grid for the first time last night... a little tough to get used to... but I like. Need tiny casting bars on the grid.
13:40.50kenlyricis there a way to make greater blessing apply to a party, or do they have to go by class?
13:41.04Fisker-i don't think so :(
13:41.04evlI just really nauseous looking at the number of library each Ace addon needs atm
13:41.06chutwigit's class only
13:41.12kenlyricthat's dumb.
13:41.20chutwiger
13:41.26chutwigwhy would you want one blessing to apply to a party
13:41.32kenlyrickings, dood
13:41.47kenlyrictell them to stop their bitching and give them all kings.
13:41.48chutwigso kings should behave one way and all the others differently?
13:41.54wobinevl: StandAlone Libraries ftw
13:41.57Fisker-although you'd never apply one blessing to a whole party
13:41.59Fisker-well almost never
13:42.08Fisker-But it should definately be configurable somehow
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13:42.51kenlyricconsider kharazan, where you probably might/salvation or wisdom. You have to use a lot of reagents if each person is a different class, even though you're only using two blessings.
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13:42.56chutwigyeah, well
13:43.03chutwigthat's why symbols are cheaper than candles
13:43.06evlwobin: That's the cause of the nausea, if I spread them out as standalones I just realize how many fucking libraries there are, PaintChips, Crayon, Metrognome (AceEvent deprecated this right?), Tablet, Waterfall, Babble, SpecialEvents, Surface, CandyBar
13:44.05oKnowsand symbols stack to 200?
13:44.10chutwig100
13:45.28wobinevl: That's why it's good they're only LoD
13:46.34Fisker-It's not acceptable chutwig
13:46.44Fisker-And druid buffs are fukken cheap too
13:46.45chutwigITH NOT ATHEPTABLE
13:46.46DhragaHmm I wonder why so many take the 41/0/20 when raiding, the UA still have 1.5 ct, but compared to 40/0/21 the ruin should provide more dps or am I misstaken ?
13:46.49wobinAlso, if your addon doesn't need the functionality that Ace2 provides, and only, say, needs slash commands/db/events or simple things like that, you shouldn't use Ace, but use something like Dongle instead
13:46.52chutwighow long have you played as a paladin?
13:47.02Fisker-total?
13:47.09DhragaBtw that last statement was about lock talents, forgott to mention it
13:47.20Fisker-my /played is 10 days :P
13:47.25chutwigokay well
13:48.00chutwigplay for a year and then you get license to complain
13:48.00chutwiguntil then just suck it up like everyone else
13:48.00kenlyricif you have 5 classes, in a run, that's 30s to buff them for an hour, for a priest it's 50s if we need to buff shadows, 20 if we don't
13:48.00Fisker-well i didn't have that with my rogue
13:48.01Fisker-that's why i played paladin
13:48.11chutwigthis is the part where you two rail on about how blizzard is fucking us again
13:48.15Fisker-but seriously druid buffs well atleast gift of the wild rank 2 aint expensive either
13:48.22chutwigwhile all the actual paladins don't care
13:48.25FryGuy-vhaarr: that site is great
13:48.28FryGuy-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOCmoYU6h1Q&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebestofgooglevideo%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ephp%3Fpage%3D4
13:48.31FryGuy-that's pretty funny too
13:48.33nevcairielDhraga: our warlocks are mostly 45/5/11
13:48.36kenlyricwait, you *chose* to play a paladin?
13:48.43wobinkenlyric: odd isn't it =)
13:48.46kenlyricI thought all paladins were accidents people made when they were noobs..
13:48.47wobinI just started a pally
13:48.50[Ammo]I'm 45 affliction 16 demo
13:48.57wobinIt's the one class I've never actually played
13:48.58kenlyricseveral priests and mages I know were paladins that way.
13:49.12wobinmy first noob 60 was a hunter
13:49.15wobinI barely play him now
13:49.39kenlyricmy first noob was a priest. I still play him.
13:49.40evlwobin: I just feel Ace is going in the direction where things are added continously while nothing is removed/revmaped/optimized/trimmed/split
13:49.56kenlyricWell, technically I got him banned and rerolled as a female human, but it's still pretty much the same dude :)
13:50.05nevcairiellol
13:50.10kenlyricexcept, 10% more spirit.
13:51.13wobinevl: The base libraries are pretty well optimised
13:51.35wobinAnd there isn't too much overlap that I've seen in the separate libraries
13:51.52wobinI'm not sure that some of them are necessary (paintchip/crayon/etc)
13:52.05[Ammo]paintchips is handy
13:52.11[Ammo]it provides color registration stuff
13:52.14wobinhandy yes, but worth an extra library?
13:52.15evlwobin: Say in the example of Metronome, where the functionaly of that addon is now basically embedded into AceEvent, yet lots of addons still use Metrognome but not the new AceEvent implementation. Then you suddenly have two OnUpdate managers.
13:52.23[Ammo]wobin well I like it
13:52.24wobinevl: yes
13:52.39kenlyricyes, that's evil. Down with metrognome!
13:52.40evlWhat's the difference between Paintchips and Crayon?
13:52.45kenlyricI only have one damn mod that uses it.
13:52.49wobinI'm not sure, tbh
13:52.56wobinwhich one ken?
13:52.56[Ammo]crayon = color manipulation
13:53.00[Ammo]paintchips = color registration
13:53.01nevcairielyou still have mods which use metrognome?
13:53.04[Ammo]there's a diference
13:53.07evlExactly, stuff is being added without anyone being conservative tbh
13:53.08kenlyricfishingace
13:53.19wobinyou could probably convert it across yourself
13:53.35nevcairieli just noticed, i must have one too
13:53.36evlBut then the second problem, people flip out if you touch their stuff
13:53.38nevcairielbut i dont know which.
13:53.46evlespecially if they wrote the redundant extra lib
13:53.55evlnevcairiel: kEnergy, since you can't alter a ScheduledEvent as it's running (AlterMetro)
13:53.58evletcx.
13:54.02vhaarrPeople don't flip if you touch their stuff.
13:54.22[Ammo]they flip if it's touched by ignorant fools without permission :p
13:54.24evlhaste flipped out?
13:54.25nevcairielinteresting
13:54.26kenlyricfishing ace actually installs and appears to work without metrognome. It doesn't call it as a dependency. But, double-click casting, the whole point of the mod, doesn't work without it.
13:54.28evlthen CT_mod guy flipped out
13:54.28nevcairieli disabled my metrognome
13:54.32evlnow there's copyright everywhere
13:54.33vhaarrPeople flip if you're an idiot and don't talk to them first, and by people who don't know what the fuck they're doing.
13:54.34nevcairieland nothing broke
13:54.41hasteevl: w00t?
13:54.48kenlyriclol... the ctmod guy is not an ace guy :)
13:54.50evlhaste: you remvoed your stuff from SVN :)
13:55.03haste*confused*
13:55.04evlkenlyric: Well, he caused Flippage™
13:55.06vhaarrevl: Obviously you don't know the whole story.
13:55.06kenlyrichaste went crazy with tacos
13:55.18hasteAre we back in december suddenly?
13:55.26kenlyricno, just evl
13:55.27[Ammo]haste: yeah we just invented a time machine
13:55.27wobinCide?
13:55.29wobinWot?
13:55.31wobinAce?
13:55.32oKnowstime travel is fun!
13:55.33wobinhaahaha
13:55.35Fisker-IncomingHeals on SVN is the former rise and shine incoming heals right?
13:55.39evlI'm not back in december, I was just saying: "I just feel Ace is going in the direction where things are added continously while nothing is removed/revmaped/optimized/trimmed/split"
13:55.44kenlyricI think we actually cherish the times that Cide gets pissed off.
13:55.51[Ammo]evl: your feeling is quite wrong
13:55.56vhaarrIndeed it is.
13:56.04Fisker-indeed
13:56.13evlI just updated BigWigs, now I need another lib called Waterfall
13:56.18wobinOn the one hand, I find the anti-ace rants quite irritating, especially the irrational ones.
13:56.20evland I also need FuBarPlugin
13:56.30vhaarrevl: No, you don't need it, and it has always required FBP.
13:56.33wobinOn the other hand, I also dislike the rabid ACEEVERYTHINGCAUSEITSBETTER ones
13:56.34[Ammo]well then don't use bigwigs
13:56.39[Ammo]no-one forces you to use it
13:56.42vhaarrevl: Waterfall is optional.
13:56.45wobincause, hey irrational too
13:56.59Icerothspeaking of flipping, let's see if i managed to get any replies to my post.. *browses to icehud thread*
13:57.15Icerothblah, i'm disappointed
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13:57.29wobinShirik is writing an updater for Wowi
13:57.32wobinwhich should be good
13:57.35wobinhopefully
13:57.56vhaarrYou mean instead of working on the wowi site like he should be doing?
13:58.13wobinvhaarr: eh?
13:58.14[Ammo]wowi has the worst searchoption in history, but the rest of the site is decent
13:58.26vhaarrIt also need multiple author support.
13:58.27kenlyricso, I've definitely been here for too long. We were doing the curator and somebody had another boss mod which had proximity detection in it. My first thought was "that really should be a seperate mod" :)
13:58.31Icerothi like the favourites thing, nice to see what's updated
13:58.34vhaarrwobin: wowi sucks, that's what I'm saying.
13:58.36[Ammo]vhaarr: yeah, so I don't have to share my password with you :p
13:58.40vhaarrright
13:58.42vhaarr:P
13:58.49[Ammo]zomg he can see my favorites
13:58.49wobinhehe
13:58.52wobinI like wowi
13:59.06wobineasiest support out of the lot of them
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13:59.24kenlyric"Slim" shady dealer? Lol
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14:00.00Industrialha
14:00.00wobinBut yeah, wowi could use a better search thing
14:00.01wobinnot that I'd have a clue as to how to make it better
14:00.02evlgoogle :D
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14:00.16vhaarrGoogle is a piece of shit.
14:00.17sbumeeh
14:00.18Industrialaddon search only through addon names not through content
14:00.20sbugood ingame raid-planner?
14:00.21vhaarrIt wouldn't help a bit.
14:00.26sbu(and no, i dont wanna hear GEM :/)
14:00.53sbuneed some simple solution for our karazhan raids - website is overkill since it's only ~13 ppl
14:01.09evlsbu: http://www.gsdkp.com/ is pretty nice
14:01.32vhaarrgah, wowace.com down from here
14:01.39vhaarrah, there it is
14:01.43vhaarrheh
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14:02.30Elkanovhaarr, any additional thoughts to sharedmedia?
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14:02.48vhaarrElkano: I haven't looked at it yet, but as long as you just did what I suggested, it should be fine.
14:03.19kenlyricany healing priests in here doing kharazan have any advice on if I should be more concerned about keeping the tank alive, instead of throwing heals to all 10 people? Am I thinking of karazhan too much like UBRS and not enough like BWL?
14:03.35sbuevl: hm i know - but ingame solution would be much easier for this ;o
14:03.36Elkanowell, at least one thing is better than SurfaceLib: it has an API page inside the wiki ;)
14:03.40nevcairielif tank dies
14:03.42nevcairieleveryone is dead
14:03.42vhaarrkenlyric: I don't give a shit about others except the tanks.
14:03.59kenlyricso, I am thinking of it too much like UBRS.
14:04.09vhaarrWe're 2 priests and a paladin, the paladin sometimes heals others, but they can bandage/pot/hpstone/etc.
14:04.17vhaarrIf they die, they suck.
14:04.25kenlyricespecially on the bosses, if I take the time to throw a heal anywhere else, that's the exact second the tank takes a crit or a crushing blow.
14:04.33nevcairielkarazhan is not that hard tho, i generally always have time to throw hots on other people.
14:04.37nevcairielwhich is enough healing
14:04.37chutwigsounds like you need to organize your healing better
14:04.38Icerothfights like curator it's needed to heal other than tanks as well but they really shouldn't be taking much damage otherwise
14:04.49sbukenlyric: uhm well... im a priest healing in karazhan
14:04.57sbunot that easy :o
14:04.59vhaarrobviously where there are boss abilities that damage the whole party, you'll have to heal.
14:05.08sbufocus on tank but keep an eye on the rest of your group
14:05.12wobinvhaarr: hum, irt MrPlow and multiple special bags, I think I'm only dealing with special bags as a group, not individually =\
14:05.17kenlyricbut should all of us be healing? or should someone be dedicated to the tank?
14:05.21vhaarrwobin: ah
14:05.26wobinCause I could never afford more than one special bag =P
14:05.31sbuwe have no dedicated tank healer
14:05.35sbu(2 priest, 2 shaman)
14:05.36vhaarrkenlyric: We have one priest per tank + one paladin.
14:05.39sbufree for all :o
14:05.48sbubut focus on tanks
14:05.57Icerothwe generally have 1 'dedicated' healer per tank
14:06.03wobinI wonder if I can OO MrPlow
14:06.08sbu(well - generally i focus mt2 while other priest focusses mt1 - but thats no static rule)
14:06.14wobinit'd make maintenence possibly easier =P
14:06.21vhaarrwobin: indeed
14:07.16kenlyricwell, I noticed during maiden all three of us were trying to dispel holy fire because of range and LoS issues, which basically screwed us several times.  So the problem is either 1) I'm not thinking of healling assignements correctly or 2) I'm just too fucking slow to be any good.
14:07.25kenlyricI'm just really hoping it turns out to be 1.... :)
14:07.29nevcairielits 2
14:07.31nevcairiel:P
14:07.33chutwigyou should all be standing against the edge of the platform
14:07.38chutwigso that everyone is in LoS at all times
14:07.59kenlyricwe might do that now since the holy fire spell is complettely random now.
14:08.22vhaarryou're just slow
14:08.24kenlyricI'm guessing that's the "range exploit" they fxied.
14:09.15vhaarrmaiden was so incredibly simple, I don't know why the nerfed her.
14:09.23kenlyricthey did?
14:09.24wobinvhaarr: The thing is, I don't know how many people still use MrPlow, and not Baggins or ArkInv
14:09.26kenlyricwe didn't notice.
14:09.28nevcairielthey buffed her first
14:09.30wobinso is it worth rewriting =\
14:09.32nevcairielthen nerfed a bit again
14:09.46vhaarrkenlyric: How can you have noticed, it happened today.
14:09.46chutwigthey need to make illhoof less retarded
14:09.55kenlyricit happened yesterday.
14:09.56chutwigfirst he was easy, now he's so difficult that it's not worth doing
14:09.56vhaarrillhoof is a joke, oneshot
14:09.57wobinchutwig: He's not prepared? =P
14:10.00kenlyricwe went last night.
14:10.08nevcairielwas illhoof nerfed again?
14:10.10kenlyricShe now holy fires any random target out of melee range.
14:10.11vhaarrchutwig: It's all about positioning.
14:10.20kenlyricthat a big deal, but requires a strat change.
14:10.21vhaarrnevcairiel: no
14:10.32chutwigit's an overly obnoxious fight that requires too much effort for the rewards you get
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14:10.36kenlyricand none of the rogues noticed her concecrate being any nicer.
14:10.38neeneeBaggins doesn't 'physically' stack though, so space is wasted without knowing it if people Compress stackables with Baggins
14:10.39nevcairieli wouldnt consider him a oneshot then, sure we kill him easily as well
14:10.44nevcairielbut still, he is not that easy anymore :p
14:10.59vhaarrI disagree, he's pisseasy.-
14:11.18wobinI might rewrite it then
14:11.22chutwigchess event really needs to give me my shield
14:11.24wobininto something somewhat easier to deal with =P
14:11.28wobinspaghetticode ftl
14:11.40wobinMrPlow is currently a wonder of procedural coding =P
14:11.46nevcairielchessevent needs to give me my boots
14:11.53wobinand I'm surprised it didn't drive vhaarr insane trying to trace it =P
14:11.59vhaarrnevcairiel: Just have your raid stand on the far side of the room - *everyone*, so that the imps do not spread out, and then one mage or warlock can kill them all.
14:12.03vhaarrnevcairiel: and you win.
14:12.21nevcairielwe used a warlock seed-of-corruption'ing them
14:12.25chutwigi just hate fights that are predicated heavily on aoe healing
14:12.25nevcairielworks “pretty good tho
14:12.30chutwigbecause that really sucks for me
14:12.32vhaarrnevcairiel: You're not reading what I'm saying.
14:12.33vhaarrso fuck it
14:12.42wobinaoe healing?
14:12.49wobingogo holynova?
14:12.50kenlyricholy nova!
14:13.04chutwiggosh it sure is swell that i don't have that joke of a spell
14:13.15wobinI can remember saving the day in Dire Maul using holy nova =)
14:13.26wobinhurrah holy dps =)
14:13.27vhaarrwobin: You do realise the mana cost?
14:13.28kenlyricholy nova has many practical uses.
14:13.32wobinvhaarr: totally =)
14:13.34vhaarrIt has 1 practical use.
14:13.36vhaarrRevealing rogues.
14:13.41kenlyricfor a single talent point that's not got a lot of useful alternatives.
14:13.51wobinbut we needed to mow down the masses of skeletons before they killed the squishies
14:14.06kenlyricI think maybe I could increase my range on... uh.. holy nova 10%.
14:14.06chutwigrevealing rogues and detecting roguish charm
14:14.16wobinrawr =)
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14:14.28vithostwo uses.  don't forget having your mana wasted on The Inciter in Shadow Lab.
14:14.38wobinoh and the rat trap in Strath
14:14.55kenlyricscrew that, the inciter drops lightwell.
14:15.01kenlyriche's my hero.
14:15.05wobinhehe
14:15.12wobinnow there's one I've never used
14:15.18wobinSoR neither
14:15.30vhaarrActually, 3, then, because you can spam it at Curator to get rid of all the excess mana from shadow fiend at evocation.
14:15.32kenlyriclightwell got a huge buff.
14:15.33wobinexcept I might take it next respec just for the spirit boost
14:15.36wobinyeah?
14:15.41kenlyricand SoR has 5% spirit, so it's worth it for me.
14:15.48kenlyricPlus, I'm dying more, so that helps :)
14:15.52wobinhehe
14:15.55kenlyricslow ass tanks FTW!
14:15.57vhaarrSoR is worthwhile.
14:16.02wobinmy problem with SoR is my latency
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14:16.08kenlyricnothing like getting 1-shotted by attumen *when he appears*
14:16.10wobinI can't get off enough heals to make it worthwhile
14:16.18kenlyric15 seconds makes it a lot better.
14:16.18vhaarrtake it for the spirit
14:16.23wobinIt's a pity you can't cast res =)
14:16.25chutwigsure am glad i'm not a healing priest
14:16.30wobinCause that'd be cool =)
14:16.35kenlyricand lightwell has a smaller cooldown, lower mana cost, does more healing in fewer ticks.
14:16.46wobindoes it still get knocked off once hit?
14:16.48chutwig...still disappears the second you get hit
14:16.53wobin=\
14:17.06kenlyricyes, but even if it ticks only once per person, it's very efficient.
14:17.07wobinI'm currently smitespec =P
14:17.16wobinI managed to avoid all the +heal talents =P
14:17.28vhaarrkenlyric: Now there's a waste of talent points.
14:17.29wobinwith a disc/holy
14:17.33chutwigthey need to reorganize disc and holy in a major way
14:17.37wobintotally
14:17.47chutwigme, i'm happy just unloading all my talent points into shadow
14:17.51vhaarrFirst of all, they need to make Disc its own school.
14:17.51wobinI was so used to shadow
14:17.55chutwigeat ghostbuster beam
14:17.59wobinI keep forgetting I can heal myself in combat =P
14:18.06wobinand I sorely miss Silence
14:18.09yacoobyou mean, melt your shadow tree.
14:18.21kenlyricvhaarr: I was very much strongly in the lolwell camp... I hated that spell. But it was majorly buffed.
14:18.33vhaarrIt still sucks.
14:18.36kenlyricand, the fact that doesn't compete with divine spirit helps.
14:19.02Navvlolwell is buffed?
14:19.05Navvwhat is this
14:19.07vhaarrno
14:19.13vhaarrSome people just think it has been.
14:19.13wobindoesn't compete?
14:19.13kenlyricyes it is.
14:19.15neeneeIt mainly 'sucks' because people often don't understand they only need to click it once
14:19.47kenlyricneenee: yes, training the monkeys is a whole different tast.
14:19.48kenlyrictask
14:20.04vhaarrIt sucks for 3 reasons; 1. It has a 6min cooldown, 2. It lasts only 3 minutes, 3. The effect is removed upon damage recieved.
14:20.11chutwiglook at it this way
14:20.16vhaarrAnd it will always suck as long as those 3 are true.
14:20.22chutwigyou're spending a talent point to summon 5 bandages every 3 minutes
14:20.31chutwig6 minutes, whatever the cooldown is
14:20.31vhaarrevery 6 minutes
14:20.39chutwigpoint is it sucks
14:20.50Industrialanyone got some puzzle games that arent hard? I just wanna pass time :p
14:20.54Navvoh they still act exactly like bandages?
14:20.56Industrial:x
14:20.56kenlyricit's 1 talent point. it heals for a minimum of 4000 hp. A minimum.
14:21.04vhaarrkenlyric: still sucks
14:21.13kenlyricIt's no threat, no time taken away to heal, etc etc etc.
14:21.24Navvwell i think it mainly sucks because people dont know how to use it, ya
14:21.27wobinI think the biggest problem with it is retraining the monkies
14:21.34Navvprobably
14:21.38vhaarrindeed
14:21.47vhaarrHow long do you think that would take?
14:21.49vhaarr~3 years?
14:21.52wobinprobably
14:21.55wobinwith good teachers
14:21.56vhaarrexactly
14:21.57wobinand diagrams
14:22.03wobinand maybe food rewards
14:22.06yacoobI think you're missing the point of the game :>
14:22.07wobinand electroshock therapy
14:22.10Navv2 years!
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14:22.55wobinSo what happens when you click on a lightwell more than once?
14:22.55sbuhmm - is mechanar heroic possible with only 1 healer?
14:23.06kenlyricand no, it's not exactly like a bandage. You have to channel a bandage.
14:23.08wobinsbu: Is -any- heroic possible with only 1 healer?
14:23.16vhaarrwobin: guess
14:23.18nevcairielslave pens
14:23.21nevcairielis pretty easy
14:23.22wobinNo =)
14:23.33Navvi did heroic mecha with 1 healer (holypriest)
14:23.42vhaarrnevcairiel: Steamvaults as well.
14:23.42Navvcant say it was very fun, but yea, finished it
14:23.45vhaarrSV is a joke.
14:23.48vhaarrUnderbog is harder.
14:23.54vhaarr(on heroic)
14:23.58nevcairielvhaarr: the bog lords are challenging with one healer tho
14:24.02vhaarrnah
14:24.06nevcairielexcept if you work around them :D
14:24.16vhaarrjust pre-cleanse with abolish disease
14:24.18vhaarrbefore you pull
14:24.21vhaarrand chaincast GH
14:24.22vhaarr-> win
14:24.22nevcairieli am a druid
14:24.25vhaarrI know :P
14:24.29nevcairielno abolish disease :D
14:24.36vhaarrye ^^
14:24.37sbuwobin: yep...
14:24.50vhaarrnevcairiel: But you don't even have to "work around them" in SV.
14:24.54sbubut tempest forge destroyer thing mob - well, the hit w/ 3-4k every 1-2s :/
14:25.01wobinbah, gnight all
14:25.02vhaarrnevcairiel: You can just walk the normal way to the bosses and you'll never hit them.
14:25.03sbui guess its not possible with one priest
14:25.06Navvit is
14:25.09vhaarrsbu: it is
14:25.11sbuit is?
14:25.14nevcairielour normal way is through them :D
14:25.15Navvsure
14:25.15vhaarrI've done it.
14:25.18Navvme too
14:25.20Navvi tanked!
14:25.23vhaarrI healed!
14:25.29wobinI ate cookies
14:25.31sbuand how to heal that? :o
14:25.31vhaarrYou just need a party that doesn't suck.
14:25.41wobinthat's true for most things, vhaarr  =)
14:25.43vhaarrTanks that stun, rogues that stun, dps that does insane damage.
14:25.56vhaarr*prevent their fist thingy from charging at all costs*
14:25.58sbuah ok, if stun works...
14:25.59vhaarrand you win.
14:26.01vhaarrstun works.
14:26.03Hjaltesbu: I've found Setthek Halls, Ramparts and Slave pens to be the easiest Heroic instances. With only 1 healer (Me, holy priest). Mech is also doable with 1 healer, but the two last bosses are tricky.
14:26.15wobinmace spec stun work?
14:26.19vhaarrHjalte: SV is the easiest, by far.
14:26.29wobinor rather, at what point does the mace spec stun stop working?
14:27.28vhaarrwobin: I have no idea, I'm talking about cheap shot, kidney shot and kick.
14:27.38vhaarrThey have to cast the charged fists ability.
14:27.39wobinoh naturally
14:27.55Fisker-due
14:27.57Fisker-dude
14:27.59wobinI'm so tempted to spec back to hemo =\
14:28.04Fisker-pallypower supports normal blessings
14:28.07Fisker-i liek
14:28.08wobinit made combo point generation so much easier
14:28.20vhaarrwobin: you won't need it on those
14:28.31wobinoh, just in general, I mean
14:29.04wobinI mean, it's a useful buff
14:29.13wobinthat still works after you die =P
14:29.36wobinand it's cheaper than SS
14:29.48vhaarrthe only hard TK heroic part is the first boss in arcatraz
14:29.57vhaarrbut we just do it with a warlock tank and it's no problem
14:30.10wobinkk I'm off to bed
14:30.12wobinnight =)
14:30.13vhaarrnn
14:30.20Industrialnn
14:30.36neeneesweet dreams :)
14:31.06nevcairielwe equiped our tank in 250 shadow resist for first arcatraz
14:31.08nevcairieland works too :)
14:31.30vhaarrye true
14:33.08nevcairielaltho last time that guy with the fire dmg, from the twin bosses there, was pretty hard .. but then again he was nerfed today.
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14:33.45vhaarryeah you just have to play it cool, spread out so 2 people do not get the same felfire line
14:33.50vhaarrother than that it's easy
14:34.03HjalteIs there any casting bar (besides the builtin ag_uf one) that shows me the name of the target of the spell i cast?
14:34.08nevcairielyea
14:34.12neeneeantagonizer
14:34.15nevcairielwe killed him, but took some tries
14:34.20neeneeer wait
14:34.26zoktarany nice addons for checking up on alts recipes/forumlas and whatnot, (not havint to log to check what u can make for another char or for someone else)
14:34.26neeneeName of the target of the spell?
14:34.28neeneeWhat is that
14:34.37neeneeYou mean the 'target' frame?
14:34.38vhaarrwe wiped one time, but I guess druids are not that good so you're excused
14:34.43nevcairiel:P
14:34.44vhaarr:D
14:34.54nevcairielonly shattered halls missing for the quests now
14:34.59nevcairielwe didnt make it in the timer yet.
14:35.17vhaarrwe have no choice but to make it every time
14:35.24vhaarrour hunter just pulls
14:35.28vhaarrso if we're not ready, we wipe
14:35.38vhaarrit's great :P
14:35.50nevcairielhah
14:35.53vhaarrforces you into being ready all the time
14:35.55nevcairielour only problem there is the ogre
14:35.58vhaarryeah indeed
14:36.07Hjalteneenee: No, i mean like "Flash Heal (name)" or whatever :)
14:36.42nevcairielbut i dont see my guild killing magtheridon anytime soon
14:36.43nevcairielso
14:36.47nevcairieli am in no hurry
14:37.11neeneeHjalte: Ah, not a clue I fear.
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14:40.49Nickenyfikenanyone got a download link for 2.0.10 patch?
14:41.01neeneeit's on wowwiki
14:41.03neeneeThey have links :)
14:41.08Nickenyfikenah thanks
14:41.13neenee:)
14:41.23Nickenyfikendownloader take half day to dl 3 mb
14:41.47oKnowshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors
14:42.20nevcairielget up earlier
14:42.25vithoshttp://vith.mine.nu:81/ has all the official torrents, extracted from the official downloaders
14:42.29nevcairielit was finished in like 5 minutes for me
14:42.37nevcairielaround 10am :P
14:42.45evlwww.patchitbaby.com
14:42.48evlalways works :)
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14:43.41hastenote to self, two small spoons of curry is enough, three is overdoing it
14:43.46Nickenyfikenhehe get up earlier just to patch? :-P
14:44.10hastewhy get up early :p ?
14:44.27evlwhy get up at all?
14:44.33vithoswhy go to sleep?
14:44.36Nickenyfikenhaste: hehe i like did that misstake but with red hot chili pepper
14:45.00hasteI have those green once also
14:45.08hastethey are juicy :3
14:45.40ag`so is fade worth anything now with the 25% increase? :P
14:47.11nevcairieli hope not
14:47.14nevcairieli like dead priests
14:47.21hastefade how, where?
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14:47.53UhuruHi
14:47.59hasteHello
14:48.03Uhurusomeone use cg_mount ?
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14:50.32grzesieqwtb eu mac mirror :<
14:51.21ag`extract the torrent file from the .app, that might help you
14:55.00vhaarrag`: agUF needs to register its slash command oninit, not onenable.
14:55.16Fisker-if you got a torrent i can get it through my server and host it for some minutes
14:55.27vhaarrag`: And please remove the Click2Cast menu, and move the unit frames submenu to the topmenu instead, so that the "Player", "Party", etc options are at root level.
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15:00.20Fisker-yeah ag` you n00b
15:00.22Fisker-:)
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15:08.06Fisker-yay
15:08.11Fisker-i was just the hero of the day
15:08.52Fisker-just took down the boss after 3 wipes
15:08.59Fisker-with like 100hp left
15:09.02Fisker-divine shield wins
15:10.03Punkie`grats
15:10.08Punkie`which boss? :)
15:10.29kenlyricFisker-: I once saved a wipe with a lightwell.
15:10.41ag`vhaarr: okay
15:10.45kenlyricwell, technically, the mind control guy in shadow lab did it :)
15:11.03Fisker-the boss in mana tombs
15:11.04Fisker-the last one
15:11.09Fisker-nexus prince whatever
15:11.14Punkie`ah yeah, he's annoying
15:11.23ag`vhaarr: but that spams my root menu
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15:12.53vhaarrag`: yes, so remove some things from it
15:12.56winkillerbartender just killed ,my bar1 incl paging
15:13.05winkillermaybe with some weird kextroke combo.. but no idea
15:14.18Fisker-well Punkie` our maintank died at 30% :P
15:14.23Punkie`hehe
15:15.25Punkie`btw is it actually possible to turn off shift etc paging in bartender but keep stance shifting on?
15:15.42Fisker-they were pretty happy to see me take him down from like 3% with divine shield
15:15.52Fisker-then i died
15:16.17Punkie`I bet they were rejoicing of the paladins on horde :P
15:16.35Fisker-yeah
15:16.49Punkie`good stuff
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15:17.00kenlyricPunkie`: i tried to find such an option, but could not.
15:17.00Fisker-did 2 uber crit soc's(both around 1200) then a melee for 1000 and hammer of wrath for 1900
15:17.10kenlyricPunkie`: oh wait, yes i did, it's not in bartender
15:17.23kenlyricGo to your key binding, and remove the key bindings for shift-1 through shift-6
15:17.46Punkie`nono, i dont mean that
15:18.03ag`vhaarr: any reason why though?
15:18.07Punkie`sometimes if i hover over the bar and press shift (since i scroll the zoom a lot) i usually change bars
15:18.32kenlyricare you sure shift-scroll isn't bound to an event in keybinding?
15:18.56Punkie`im not sure! I can check in 2 hours though :>
15:18.56kenlyricAll I know is that if Shift in your bartender options is set to switch to bar 0, that should mean its off.
15:19.05Punkie`ahh
15:19.08Punkie`that could be it
15:19.19oKnowsPunkie`, you want to disable page switching but keep stance switching?
15:19.42kenlyricno, disable modifier key switching but keep stance switching.
15:20.01Punkie`yes i do oKnows
15:20.07kenlyricbut I think that's possible, just some things are bound by the default blizzard ui.
15:20.15kenlyricgotta unbind them.
15:20.21oKnowsyeah
15:20.33oKnowsPrevious Action Bar, Next Action Bar
15:20.39oKnowsunbind them and you're golden
15:20.47Punkie`ah sweet :)
15:20.53Fisker-ah screw you blizzard
15:21.05Punkie`i have a mod called like, BlindFlashCount too
15:21.11Fisker-can't use auto-unstuck for free hearthstone
15:21.18Fisker-because tickets are unavailable
15:21.21kenlyricI need to write GridCastingBars
15:21.25chutwigthat's odd
15:21.33chutwigwhy would squeenix be saying resetpos is disabled
15:21.37Punkie`and if i page it keeps the imprint when i scroll back up :(
15:21.39kenlyricFisker-: since when is auto-unstuck a free hearthstone?
15:21.47ag`Fisker-: go to instance, get kicked from party
15:21.53Fisker-since 2.0
15:21.57Punkie`doesnt autounstuck use your hearthstone? :o
15:22.02Fisker-if available yes
15:22.03kenlyricthat's what I thought.
15:22.14Fisker-if not it uses it's own hearthstone
15:22.16kenlyricand before 2.0, if your hearthstone was on cooldown, you just had to wait :)
15:22.24kenlyricwell, at least I did.
15:22.39kenlyricof course, usually it just unstuck you.
15:22.48chutwigsqueenix is making me mad >:(
15:22.57kenlyricnow I understand it hearths you a lot more frequently.
15:23.30Punkie`I thought if your hearthstone was on cooldown it would jump your character 10 foot ?
15:24.02cncfanaticsI guess that made ppl able to get to places they shouldn't be able to get to
15:24.15kenlyricway back in the day when i would use it would always try to jump you, and if it didn't, then it would hearth you.
15:24.29Punkie`ah ok
15:24.40Punkie`i never really used it often :P
15:24.46kenlyricyou, you could get into hyjal that way for a while.
15:25.00Punkie`although being a gnome, i seem to always find myself getting stuck inside objects when i get feared
15:25.06Punkie`especially in shadow labs :|
15:25.15chutwigjust hide under a tree until the mean orc goes away
15:25.25Punkie`:(
15:27.23ag`vhaarr: is it to improve it for waterfall or something like it?
15:27.37vhaarrag`: there are just too many submenus now
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15:35.35neeneeCan anyone recommend a codec pack for usage with VirtualDub? I am using Vista, if that makes any difference (I doubt it, but have been out of the movie-making for a few years now)
15:36.22odtffdshow is the only one i installed on my vista
15:36.29deltronneenee: I haven't used codec packs in years, but defilerpak was a good one
15:36.29odtnot a codec pack per se
15:36.42neeneeoki. I'll check both. Thanks for the replies :)
15:36.48ag`vhaarr: there you have it
15:37.02vhaarrag`: did you move the slash command registration to oninit?
15:37.03sbuheh - no more movie making for me with vista :/
15:37.07ag`vhaarr: yeah
15:37.19neeneesbu: Why not?
15:37.20sbuwow runs nice - but w/ fraps only ~10-15fps
15:37.31sbuwith XP it was 30fps
15:37.31vhaarrag`: sweet
15:37.32neeneeAh.
15:37.37neeneeWoW doesn't run too well here either.
15:37.47sbuguess its some graphics driver issue
15:37.49sbunvidia :/
15:38.01neeneeprobably, I turned off triple buffering
15:38.01sbuoh... right, i didnt test fraps + beta driver
15:38.05grzesieqGreat, from all servers, only mine is down.
15:38.22ag`vista + gaming is a bad idea
15:38.24neeneeffdshow is from 2002?
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15:38.31sbuag`: well, its ok
15:38.34ag`you might as well run Linux + Wine instead
15:38.47ag`same gaming performance :P
15:38.53deltronlinux + wine works well
15:38.54neeneeNah, vista has better performance I think. Anyway, *steps out of the X vs X conversation
15:39.04deltrononly reason I run XP is because of WoW though
15:39.21neeneeodt: ffdshow is from 2002, is that right?
15:39.27odtnah
15:39.41odthttp://www.free-codecs.com/download/FFDShow.htm
15:39.43odtuse that one
15:39.45neeneeah
15:39.48neeneeNot from sourceforge
15:39.49odtthe original sf project was from 2002
15:39.55odtbut has been discontinued
15:39.58ag`Linux + cedega performance is quite good, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same as Vista
15:40.05ag`not as good as xp though
15:40.14HarshmageUnfortunately, 90% of the computers that I manage on this campus lack the capability to run Vista.  Video card issues.
15:40.31deltronregular wine runs wow decent enough
15:40.41cncfanaticsag` , with linux + wine I get nearly the same performance as windows
15:40.44deltronhttp://matsukawa.homestead.com/files/wowpics/druidnerf.JPG <-- heh
15:40.45cncfanaticsI don't notice any difference tbh -.-
15:41.21odtneenee: but if you plan to make movies, i'd simply use h264 or xvid
15:41.27ag`cncfanatics: yeah It's been a while since i tried it myself, but I'd guess for a 10-20% decrease, which isn't bad
15:41.52ag`it's around the same performance drop vista gets I think
15:41.57ag`:<
15:42.08cncfanaticsvista sucks
15:42.12cncfanaticstakes too much ram
15:42.20deltronnah
15:42.22cncfanaticsand it takes it for retarted stuff :p
15:42.28cncfanaticsoooh, fancy 3d desktop :p
15:42.47deltronit uses a lot of ram because it stores a lot of your used programs in memory space
15:42.50sbuwell for wow movies i use autogk with 75% xvid quality :)
15:42.51Harshmagecncfanatics, not really.  It reserves a significant portion of the ram.
15:45.28deltronhttp://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/superfetch.mspx
15:45.37deltronthat's why it shows a lot of memory usage
15:45.39neeneeodt: oki. Indeed, converting/making
15:46.10neeneecncfanatics: if you run linux, you'll see that most ram is 'used' too.
15:46.10deltronthat said, I hate vista
15:46.32cncfanaticsneenee, lemme check :p
15:46.54odthate is a pretty strong feeling to have towards a computer os
15:46.56neeneeIt's one of the first questions people new to linux ask 'Why is linux using all my ram?'
15:47.07Harshmagedeltron, I'm in complete agreement with you.  Only reason I have to deal with Vista is cause I work in Academia
15:47.10cncfanaticsusing 575mb out of 1gig of ram, with wow, firefox, chat open, music player
15:47.35neeneewell, it does the same thing vista does, cache things, keep things in ram as much as possible.
15:48.08deltronHarshmage: I have to deal with it because I'm a software tester :(
15:48.26cncfanaticshmmmm, still problems with defragging on windows
15:48.31cncfanaticssomething that u don't got on linux
15:48.34cncfanatics<3 reiserfs tbh :p
15:48.42neenee<3 xfs
15:48.57cncfanaticswhy neenee ?
15:48.59deltronheh that's a killer file-system ya got there ;)
15:49.04neeneeanyway, I said I wouldn't do the X vs X thing.
15:49.10sbureiserfs is evil
15:49.17cncfanaticsI use reiserfs cuz u can't get any partition errors with it
15:49.28cncfanaticslots of power crashes here, reiserfs dsnt get hurt by it pretty much :)
15:49.35deltronext3 works for me
15:49.46sbucncfanatics: yeah, it crashes for other reasons - just randomly ;o
15:49.54cncfanaticsext3 crashes easely when the pc is shutdown without dismounting it
15:49.59cncfanaticssbu, thats reiserfs4 beta :p
15:50.01sbulost data 2 times because of reiserfs fs bugs
15:50.03cncfanaticsI use the stable 3.6 :p
15:50.09sbunever again... :o
15:50.18cncfanaticsdon't use betas then !
15:50.36sbuwell it was like ~2-3 years ago
15:51.03cncfanaticslol, reiserfs was at beta 3 back then I think ?
15:51.53sbusome early v3 i guess
15:52.05sbuwell doesnt matter, i dont like it so i dont have to use it ;)
15:52.20pastamancersbu: I hear there's still a chance you can completely lose the inode table
15:52.47cncfanaticspastamancer, there is ? :o
15:52.53cncfanaticsnever had that in over a year of usage
15:53.20pastamancerI haven't either, and I don't know what caused it
15:53.44pastamancerbut I have no reason to doubt the person who told me
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15:54.44Antiarc|WorkDoes anyone know if there's a way to set the camera roll in WoW?
15:54.51Antiarc|WorkI know you can modify the yaw and pitch easily enough
15:55.25Antiarc|WorkBut I want to write a mod that smoothly modifies the camera roll 0 -> 360 over a set time, allowing me to barrel roll while flying. :D
15:56.08Antiarc|WorkI've looked through the camera APIs and cvars and haven't seen anything :/
15:57.04neeneeAntiarc|Work: auto-rotate? I'm not sure that's possible.
15:57.04neenee(saying something isn't possible is a great way to get others to prove you wrong)
15:57.04Antiarc|WorkI'm not sure either, but I want it to be :(
15:57.17Antiarc|WorkOoh
15:57.21Antiarc|WorkcameraTerrainTilt
15:57.23Antiarc|WorkI wonder what that is.
15:57.29Antiarc|Work"Tilt" isn't used anywhere else.
15:57.37neeneeThat's to keep the camera level with the terrain
15:57.43Antiarc|WorkRight.
15:57.54neeneeTo compensate for slopes
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15:58.17Antiarc|WorkOh, right, the dual axis thing.
15:58.37CartasWhat's a good Ace'd ItemRack equivilent?
15:58.49neeneeClosetGnome
15:58.56CartasAny better?
15:59.00neeneeClosetGNome
15:59.03neenee:D
15:59.10kenlyricclosetgnome for <3
15:59.11CartasIs that a no, old chap? :o
15:59.23neeneeNext time, please say you have tried ClosetGnome and want something else :)
15:59.32CartasI said, 'Any better?' :o
15:59.36neeneeYes, afterwards
15:59.41kenlyricoutfitter has more options.
15:59.54neeneeAnyway, there's no other Ace Itemrack-esque addon.
15:59.57CartasThanks Kenlyric.
16:00.07neeneeYup, you can use the non-Ace Outfitter too
16:00.22CartasOkay, none exists! :(
16:01.53CartasConsidering ItemRack's popularity, it is rather strange, I guess...
16:01.58CartasOr, is the coding pretty much clean as it is?
16:02.25neeneeI do not know.
16:02.47neeneeThough, if you use it and like it and do not have problems with it, why not stick with it :)
16:02.57CartasI hate ItemRack! :p
16:02.59AKXCan different columns of a Tablet have different click handlers?
16:03.03CartasSomeone from my guild was asking :)
16:03.09CartasWhat a useless addon...
16:03.39vhaarrAKX: No.
16:03.44AKXWell bafuddle.
16:03.57AKXAny way to do such
16:03.58AKX+?
16:04.18nevcairielscrew tablet and get your own :)
16:04.21neeneeCartas: Tell them to try ClosetGnome :)
16:04.26CartasThey've tried it.
16:04.29Cartasand Outfitter.
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16:04.32Cartasand Wardrobe2.
16:05.10vhaarrCartas: What was their gripe with CG, then?
16:06.04Cartaslol
16:06.05nevcairieli need a simple adodn which reminds me when my tradeskill cooldowns are over
16:06.08nevcairielany suggestions?
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16:06.18Cartas'it's hard to configure and like I said it doesn't have the option to hide/show cloak & helm per set'
16:06.38nevcairielgive them HatTrick
16:07.01vhaarr"Hard to configure"? Thanks for the constructive criticism.
16:07.04vhaarrheh
16:07.07kenlyricsigh.. i'm gonna have to switch to deadly boss mods.
16:07.09xyui get that a lot
16:07.22CartasI was just telling you his 'gripe' with GC, old chap.
16:07.25xyumy guildies think action bars are hard to configure
16:07.31CartasHe's a fool to use ItemRack in the first place :p
16:07.36nevcairielkenlyric: why?
16:07.38CartasMaking your own macros > *
16:07.47kenlyricbecuase bigwigs sucks in the way of karazhan
16:07.57nevcairieli didnt notice that yet
16:08.03CartasWhich bosses, kenlyric?
16:08.03nevcairielyou should post on the forums what sucks
16:08.07nevcairieland it might get better :P
16:08.10kenlyricit can't ever seem to get maiden of virture right.
16:08.16neenee*virtue
16:08.17CartasOh? :o
16:08.36deltronit gets garrote right :P
16:09.01CIA-1803nevcairiel * r29700 10HatTrick/HatTrick.toc: HatTrick: updated toc to 20003
16:09.08CartasMaiden is amazing simple regardless :P
16:09.14CartasYou shouldn't switch BigWigs for that boss! :O
16:09.21sbuwhats the problem with maiden?
16:09.28nevcairieli dunno, i run bigwigs for everything, and didnt notice any flaws yet
16:09.34kenlyriccartas, well, timing the repentance so I can run into concecrate range is important.
16:09.43sbuerrr - there is no fixed timing?
16:09.45sbuits random? :o
16:09.54sbu(+/- 5s)
16:09.56kenlyricyou know, that's what I thought.
16:10.01kenlyricI had people telling me it was fixed.
16:10.13nevcairielso, figure out the exact timing
16:10.19nevcairieland post it on the bigwigs thread.
16:10.22nevcairieland there youi go.
16:10.33sbuthen make a transcript and send it to ... yeah, what nevcairiel said ;o
16:10.50kenlyrichow is it that people can't know?
16:10.55kenlyriceither it is or it isn' :)
16:11.05nevcairielThe maiden's repentance stun is a cooldown timer. She can choose to use it after the cooldown bar is done.
16:11.09xyuyou'd be surprised
16:11.13nevcairielthats what ammo posted, and what i think is true.
16:11.25kenlyricah, that would probably be neough.
16:11.47kenlyricI might take more damage, but it's worth not being stunned.
16:12.19nevcairielthe only thing bugging me about some bigwigs addons
16:12.38nevcairielthey dont get the first cast of a spell, only trigger when it was first used and show the second
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16:13.00CartasIsn't that the only way it can work?
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16:13.22nevcairielnah
16:13.27nevcairielif its a fixed timer from start
16:13.32nevcairiellike on curator evocation
16:13.38nevcairieldunno if it wa changed now tho
16:13.54CartasHm
16:14.07CartasDo you need to know his evocation from the start anyways? :o
16:14.18kenlyricyes.
16:14.19nevcairielwell its good to know, sometimes
16:14.25kenlyricyou need to know exactly when it will start.
16:14.29nevcairiel"kill adds faster, evocation in 15s"
16:14.53CartasDoes his evocation go off the mana he has?
16:15.00[Ammo]curator should show from start now
16:15.00sbuyep
16:15.06[Ammo]but not sure
16:15.07sbumana empty -> evocation
16:15.13kenlyricthe instant it hits I can stop healing, help out with adds/regen mana/drop a lightwell... all sorts of things. And I've only got so many seconds to do it in.
16:15.27sbui dont know if time spawn timer has some random factors (+/- 1-2s?)
16:15.28[Ammo]but yeah, mana empty -> evocation
16:15.39[Ammo]so watch his manabar
16:15.41CartasDoes the BW timer bug if you mana burn?
16:15.43nevcairielhis mana usage is constant tho
16:15.45nevcairielisnt it?
16:15.49sbuimmune to manaburfn
16:15.50[Ammo]it's constant
16:15.52CartasAh, okay :)
16:15.52sbumanaburn
16:15.53[Ammo]and he's immune
16:15.56kenlyricwell, like all boss mods, I could figure it out for myself. But that's why I have a boss mod :)
16:16.07CartasAmmo! How're you doing, old chap?
16:16.14[Ammo]but use deadly bossmods if you want
16:16.17CartasYou have a boss mod for Curator?
16:16.22CartasUltimate failure!
16:16.26[Ammo]they rip most of their stuff from bigwigs anyway :)
16:16.38[Ammo]including our dumb stuff
16:16.38nevcairielhm
16:16.39kenlyricammo, they also put a proximity detector in curator mod.
16:16.44kenlyricI mean, clearly that's its own mod.
16:16.44[Ammo]so?
16:16.49nevcairieli dont see any engage triggerin in Curator module.
16:16.53[Ammo]hmm
16:16.58sbuuhm, proximity for curator?
16:16.59[Ammo]I thought it got added
16:17.03[Ammo]must have been wrong
16:17.29[Ammo]the main diff between deadly and bigwigs is that bigwigs does not supply strategy stuff
16:17.36[Ammo]it only supplies information
16:17.41[Ammo]you can use it however you need to use it
16:18.17CartasHm...
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16:18.20[Ammo]and if you can't do curator without a boss mod you should not be in karazhan
16:18.22CartasWhat fights don't you guys have?
16:18.27[Ammo]we have em all
16:18.30CartasAh, okay.
16:18.32sbu-- Added Slashcommand "/drt logout <name>" <-- :p
16:18.57nevcairielthat was the first thing i commented out in my local copy of deadly boss mods when i tried it once.
16:19.09nevcairielbut i got rid of it a few hours later anyway.
16:19.09[Ammo]we need transcripts from second and further boss in Serpentshrine
16:19.15sbuahh ammo, WTB nice "i'm in combat, stfu, but bad guy is already at x%" whisper-replys ;o
16:19.26[Ammo]sbu: write a simple addon
16:19.27CartasOkay. I'll try and get you some, old chap :)
16:19.31[Ammo]cool
16:19.39[Ammo]just post em onj the wowace forums
16:19.42[Ammo]in the correct thread
16:19.44CartasHow's your guild doing? :o
16:19.46[Ammo]and they'll be picked up
16:19.47kenlyric[Ammo]: You don't need a boss mod for anything. You don't need mods for anything. They just let you focus on different things.
16:19.49[Ammo]fine
16:19.53[Ammo]we're back as BOON Control
16:20.06sbu[Ammo]: hmm yeah, but someone told me that atm its not possible to determine if you are in bossfight w/ bigwigs ;o
16:20.14nevcairielthere are some fights, where mods are really helping
16:20.20nevcairielcurator isnt one of them :P
16:20.25sbuaran is :o
16:20.36CartasOf course you don't 'need' mods, Kenlyric! :o
16:20.57[Ammo]nearly got netherspite with the new guild last night
16:21.00[Ammo]9% or so
16:21.03CartasOo, nice :)
16:21.17Punkie`yeah, first night on him after reforming really :)
16:21.20CartasI'm farming 36xPrimal Water and Fire :|
16:21.30nevcairielwhy do you do such madness.
16:21.33Punkie`farming water is easy
16:21.37CartasNo it'sn ot.
16:21.39Cartasit's not*
16:21.42kenlyricsure it is.
16:21.43CartasI have to get frost res. gear, nevcairiel.
16:21.44Punkie`i farmed like, 60 motes of water in 35 minutes
16:21.46kenlyricfishfishfish
16:21.48CartasNo it isn't. :(
16:21.54CartasMy fishing is at about 16.
16:21.55Punkie`fished every single one
16:22.02kenlyricNOOOB
16:22.03Punkie`375 = win
16:22.10kenlyricdefinitely.
16:22.14nevcairiel60 motes is only 6 primals .. its still a long way togo
16:22.16kenlyrichighland mixed pools FTW!
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16:22.27Punkie`i got 375 fishing by watching stargate actually!
16:22.34[Ammo]haha
16:22.35sbuhmm
16:22.44kenlyricI need more fishing gear :/
16:22.48Punkie`me too
16:22.55Punkie`i almost got the +35 pole
16:23.04Punkie`5 fish away from winning, but got ganked twice
16:23.07Punkie`:(
16:23.14kenlyricis fishing tourney still happening?
16:23.18Punkie`of course
16:23.24HarshmageI hate updating windows on a virtual machine....takes so freaking long...
16:23.34Punkie`ammo is going to protect me this sunday though
16:23.38Punkie`while i fish
16:23.40kenlyricmight have to go down there this weekend.
16:23.51[Ammo]nevcairiel: there is a bar btw at the start of curator
16:23.57Punkie`it's easy, but it's hard being a melee class though
16:24.05Punkie`you can get ganked without being able to do anything really
16:24.08[Ammo]it's started from the 'The menagerie is for guests only.'
16:24.13CartasI'm a prot specced warrior :(
16:24.23Punkie`you will die anyway
16:24.25[Ammo]poor cartas :)
16:24.29Punkie`so go fish, it wont make much difference :P
16:24.31CartasJa :'(
16:24.33CartasHilfe mich...
16:24.48[Ammo]I can put you out of your misery
16:24.50[Ammo]:)
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16:25.05nevcairiel[Ammo]: oh. i didnt see the evo bar being triggerd in the berserk part :)
16:25.11Punkie`Ammo, Sunday, 2pm, STV - Be there!
16:25.13Punkie`:D
16:25.29[Ammo]line 209 and further nevc
16:25.35nevcairielfound it now
16:25.39[Ammo]the variable naming is a bit retarded
16:25.44kenlyricOption to create custom timers, so-called "Pizza Timers" for your pizza or whatever you prefer to eat while raiding
16:25.45[Ammo]but I don't control all devs
16:25.46nevcairielbeen a week since i was at curator
16:25.47nevcairiel:)
16:26.02kenlyriclol, that's from deadly boss mods readme :)
16:26.10nevcairielyou can do that with BigWigs too
16:26.11Cartas:|
16:26.15kenlyricI often want my boss mods to have pizza timers in them.
16:26.15nevcairielits just not called pizza timers
16:26.28nevcairiel./bwlcb 600 Pizza Ready!
16:26.30[Ammo]you can have personal custom bars and raidwide custom bars
16:26.49Pneui use global pizza timers for Bio breaks etc
16:26.58Punkie`Remember me finding out about those custom bars ammo? >:D
16:27.02[Ammo]./bwcb 10 pulling!
16:27.04[Ammo]argh yeah
16:27.07[Ammo]cuntholio
16:27.17kenlyricso it can sync?
16:27.20[Ammo]yeah
16:27.22[Ammo]ofcourse it can
16:27.43[Ammo]the bwcb sync the bwlcb dont sync, they're local
16:28.03nevcairieli need an addon which catches deadly boss mods custom timers and puts them in a bwlcb
16:28.15Pneui also use localbars for respawn timers :)
16:28.23nevcairielour raidleader insists on using deadly right now
16:28.25oKarnanyone know if there's a slash command to add your current target as a poi in cart?
16:28.35[Ammo]I don't know if all deadly bossmods timers are syncd
16:28.41[Ammo]but if they are you can create quite a small addon
16:28.45nevcairieli know
16:28.50nevcairieli am just too lazy right now
16:28.53[Ammo]or just use bigwigs and a DBGTFO addon :p
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16:29.04[Ammo]that just reports you as having the correct DB addon
16:29.15[Ammo]in fact
16:29.18[Ammo]the same addon can do that :p
16:29.48nevcairielI guess i might create something like that
16:29.48vhaarrI don't see the problem, we've cleared kara and I have no problems with BW
16:29.57vhaarrmost of our raid members do not even have a bossmod addon
16:30.10nevcairielOh, and i missed BossBlock in Deadly.
16:30.12Pneua lot of ours dont, and rely on the raid warnings :)
16:30.37[Ammo]I find the warnings quite handy on Aran
16:30.47Punkie`I like the bars, especially on netherspite and aran
16:30.49[Ammo]and the maiden cooldown is handy
16:31.06[Ammo]the aggro bars for Oz event are kinda silly
16:31.12[Ammo]but the dog warning is handy
16:31.14nevcairielmost people dont care about stuff like that .. they rely on announces and raidleader talking in vent.
16:31.43CartasThe bars on the WoZ own!
16:31.46Pneua mod for when the arcane dudes put Overload on someone would be nice :)
16:31.52vhaarrYou need to contribute to BW, then, I'm not coding it for you.
16:31.56vhaarrI'm coding it for myself.
16:32.02vhaarrSo if you want something done, do it.
16:32.37nevcairielPneu: there is one problem with that, a bossmod shuts down when the "boss" dies, but the arcane dudes always come in double..
16:32.51Pneuhmm, thats true
16:33.06vhaarrIt's not a problem.
16:33.17PneuBUT the anibisuths in AQ40 are managed
16:33.25nevcairielthose come single :P
16:33.25Pneuand there are 4 of them
16:33.38nevcairielhm
16:33.45nevcairielyou mean the one on the start
16:33.51Pneuyeh, the ones at teh start
16:34.03Pneuim sure theres a mod that announces the skills isnt theer?
16:34.04nevcairielare they even tracked by bigwigs?
16:34.10nevcairieli dont think so
16:34.12[Ammo]they are not
16:34.17Pneumaybe not :)
16:34.19[Ammo]only the big ones between huhuran and twins are
16:34.27[Ammo]and pulling 2 of those is stupid
16:34.32[Ammo]or brave :)
16:34.33Pneuqft
16:34.38Pneunah, stupid
16:35.20nevcairiel*protocol
16:36.08[Ammo]I wonder if all DBM's bars are sync'd
16:36.22nevcairielwell the custom bars are
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16:37.20kenlyricit says they are.
16:37.41[Ammo]what it says and what it does is different often
16:37.56kenlyricscreenshake!
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16:38.29[Ammo]the horror
16:38.45[Ammo]but you could even make a screenshake for bigwigs
16:38.49kenlyrichmmm.. am I blind? can I make grid show when someone is missing a specific buff?
16:38.51[Ammo]just register for the message event
16:38.59kenlyricI found an option to show when they have specific buffs.
16:39.02[Ammo]and shake when the prio is Important
16:39.02vhaarr[Ammo]: Lets just do that by default.
16:39.09Uhurusomeone use cg_mount ?
16:39.18[Ammo]screenshake on every message per default
16:39.23kenlyriclol.
16:39.23[Ammo]call it 'earthquake mode'
16:39.33Punkie`nah, allow a command to force a screenshake on people
16:39.38Punkie`and keep doing it to pauleh
16:39.41Punkie`:D
16:39.42[Ammo]rofl
16:40.06Fisker-Anyone know if anyone has made some signature generators based on the armory?
16:40.31Punkie`Or KC - Hey KC, you know they implemented earthquakes in this patch? ;)
16:40.43[Ammo]hmm
16:40.46[Ammo]evil :p
16:40.52Punkie`he would fall for it :D
16:41.14[Ammo]yeah probably
16:41.23Punkie`it would be the whole boots & genie episode all over again :P
16:43.05shieldbFisker-, yeah, someone already has armory signatures done
16:43.08shieldblemme look up the link
16:43.29nevcairielcan it show my arena 5v5 ranking? :P
16:43.48shieldbhttp://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory
16:43.50shieldbyeah
16:43.59nevcairielits weird tho
16:44.06nevcairielbeen on rank 2 all week in my realmpool
16:44.14nevcairielbut the ingame rank thing shows Rank 14
16:44.26nevcairielis that europe wide or something ?
16:44.32kenlyricthey said today that they are looking to add features later which may include a show/hide feature because of the nature of the info. Come on bag/bank contents!
16:44.45[Ammo]that jebus thing is probably US servers only?
16:44.46art3misi have an idea it starts with "s" and ends with "litting thier throats"
16:45.16nevcairielprobably ammo
16:45.20kenlyricsave me superman
16:45.25nevcairieldid at least error for my EU char :D
16:45.32shieldbI haven't played with it too much myself, I hate forum signatures in general :)
16:46.22nevcairieli have a very general one, without lvl or any other information, based on my guilds roster
16:46.28nevcairielbut, i didnt update that for ages.
16:47.39kenlyricI like the priest info it gives.
16:47.41Punkie`yeah, the jebus thing says: Version 0.1 (4th March): Currently for US realms only
16:48.06pastamancerkenlyric: did you find the "Show if missing" toggle?
16:49.21NeoTronRegarding the error in Quixote: It's consistently happening and I see "An addon has broken GetQuestLogTitle [...]" when logging in (didn't notice that before). Running a lot of addons. Perhaps Extended Quest Log is the problem..
16:49.24kenlyricthanks pastamancer
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16:51.15pastamancerit doesn't know about group buffs and their single-target versions
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16:53.38vhaarrnevcairiel: I think BW should just identify as that other bossmod by default, so let me know if you get it working.
16:54.20lassizciwhich addon peeps use for sorting loot on raids on these days?
16:54.49lassizciI mean handing out, taking rolls etc
16:54.58lassizcisomething like smartML
16:55.00nevcairielvhaarr: sure, been looking through their code. the version reply is very simple, their statusbar protocol sucks tho.
16:55.09lassizci..which doesn't seem to be very up to date at the moment
16:55.11Punkie`um, right click -> Group 1 -> <Name> ? :P
16:55.15vhaarrnevcairiel: I imagine, all mods suck but ours.
16:55.51lassizciPunkie`: ever been ml?
16:55.59Punkie`of course, i do it frequently
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16:56.39kenlyricpastamancer... is there a way to make it match using regex?
16:56.44lassizciso you always use /roll for raid rolling etc?
16:56.53pastamancerkenlyric: start coding! :)
16:56.54kenlyriclike %Divine Spirit to match both ds and prayer of ds?
16:57.07Punkie`For Karazhan we use rolling yes
16:57.09lassizcihow about dkp bids?
16:57.14Punkie`other than that we just use DKP
16:57.18Punkie`bidded by whisper
16:58.03lassizciwell.. for 10 mans it's probably meaningless..
16:58.21Punkie`for 40 mans we have always bidded by whisper :P
16:58.31lassizcigood for you
16:58.54lassizciand raidrolls by /roll 40?
16:58.59pastamancerkenlyric: I'm probably not going to get around to changing/fixing that until my paladin gains another 30 levels
16:59.13Punkie`yep
16:59.29Punkie`for greens that is
16:59.42kenlyricit's not that big a deal... I can have it watch for DS,a nd see on myself the state of Prayer.
16:59.45pastamancerkenlyric: and I think I'd rather just pre-define the group -> single-target mappings
17:00.34lassizciso you won't be able to answer my original question, it seems.
17:00.53Punkie`awayi've never used one before really :)
17:01.16Punkie`awaynever seen much of a need, although smartml looks like a nice gui to do it
17:01.25kenlyricfor greens we always just need.
17:01.30lassizciIt was good for the purpose
17:01.40Punkie`awayanyway /afk :P
17:01.41lassizciif you want to speed up things
17:01.44kenlyric<PROTECTED>
17:02.07kenlyricand, in theory, the panther boss bag... though she never once dropped it.
17:02.37lassizciI was just mostly interested if there's replacement for smartml
17:04.03vhaarrI think XLoot has some ML stuff.
17:06.02kenlyricmeh... work, brain, work!
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17:09.59art3mishttp://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0077.html haha
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17:12.52art3misLong Live Banjo the Clown...God of Puppets!
17:14.10neeneeart3mis: hehe. nice comic :)
17:14.49neeneeI already know it, but it's funny anyway :)
17:18.47art3misheh that made me laugh
17:18.56art3misBanjhulu is pretty rad too
17:20.22lassizciwtb ora2 maintank list backdrop transparency setting
17:20.27KemayoNeoTron: EQL used to cause that problem, I know, but it was fixed a few weeks after 2.0.3 came out .  Make sure you have the latest version?
17:22.33CIA-1803rabbit * r29703 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: Auto-promote people in your group that are on the autopromote list when you form a raid.
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17:23.13art3misThe Fruit Pie Sorcerer
17:23.18art3misthis comic rules
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17:25.45vhaarrag`: http://ace.pastey.net/7887
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17:32.42Funkeh`heya
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17:36.34vhaarrhey funk
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17:38.00Fisker-Anyone know if anyone has made some signature generators based on the armory?
17:38.23kenlyriclol
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17:38.44kenlyrichttp://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory
17:38.47kenlyricus only
17:39.09Funkeh`if your gonna make a forwarder, make the url as small as posible!
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17:42.32kenlyricwoot, focus target
17:43.05Fisker-Oh and by that i meant open source signature generators :P
17:43.40Fisker-lol
17:43.44OverloadUTWhy do the pve sigs have the crappy level 1 avatar?
17:43.57Fisker-http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/pve/Blackrock/Tseric/sig1.jpg
17:44.02Fisker-Because you have no data
17:44.20OverloadUTWhat does that mean?
17:44.42Fisker-That your character is only updated with level and guildname and not professions, and so forth
17:45.14kenlyricdunno, mine has level 70 avatar.
17:45.23kenlyricwith my massive 1127 HKs
17:45.38Fisker-http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/pve/Crushridge/Trindle/sig1.jpg
17:45.42Fisker-A real character
17:45.55OverloadUTObserve: http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/?server=Eitrigg&character=Garlic#
17:46.10OverloadUTWait that link doesn't work
17:46.20OverloadUThttp://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/pve/Eitrigg/Garlic/sig1.jpg
17:46.32OverloadUTBut the PVP version shows the right avatar: http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/pvp/Eitrigg/Garlic/sig1.jpg
17:46.34Fisker-oh
17:46.40kenlyrichttp://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/pve/Kargath/Kenlyric/sig3.jpg
17:46.44OverloadUTAnd all my amory data is up to date: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Eitrigg&n=Garlic
17:46.46Fisker-Well that's because pve are for pansies!
17:46.47Fisker-:D
17:47.22OverloadUTHeh, but the pvp sigs are only good if you're in teh arena
17:47.23kenlyriccarebear with fangs
17:48.17kergothi presume this recent change in candybar was unintentional...
17:48.17kergoth-       _, handler.color[1], handler.color[2], handler.color[3] = paint:GetRGBPercent(c1)
17:48.18kergoth+       handler.color[1], handler.color[2], handler.color[3] = select(2, paint:GetRGBPercent(c1)
17:48.18kergother, no, i misread th dif
17:48.18kergothnev ermind, thats a good change :)
17:48.18OverloadUTHow does select() work?
17:48.18kergothargh, stupid laggy wireless keyboard, keep making space typoes
17:48.32kergothit returns the specified argument and following arguments in a multple return or ...
17:49.53Fisker-it's probably because you're only level 61 OverloadUT :o
17:50.06Fisker-he probably has no level 60-70 avatars
17:50.10OverloadUTYeah, hmm, he should fix that
17:50.24OverloadUTThe fact remains that it does show an avatar on the pvp side
17:50.29OverloadUTSo it's nothing more than a bug :P
17:50.35Fisker-he should fetch the avatars from the site instead
17:51.43Amadeokergoth: I ditched my wireless keyboard for the same problems...I cannot stand them
17:52.00OverloadUTOh especially since the URL is friendly: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/images/portraits/wow/0-6-1.gif
17:52.05OverloadUTgender-race-class.gif
17:52.21OverloadUTHm how does it show 60 vs 70...
17:53.02OverloadUTOh it's in the wow-70 directory instead of wow
17:53.10Fisker-:o
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18:10.17ElkanoKirkburn, I commited SharedMediaLib a few hours ago. Mind using it with ClearFont? (It's SurfaceLib for all sorts of media types including fonts so it would allow any addon to directly use the ClearFont fonts if they want)
18:10.57Kirkburn|afkI saw something about that being thought about a few days ago
18:11.04Kirkburn|afkHow would they work together?
18:12.37PProvostAh that would be nice. I hate addons that come w/ their own fonts and don't let me use my own w/out hacking the lua.
18:12.46PProvost(IceHUD being a prime culprit.)
18:13.43Kirkburn|afkWell, you'd still have to hack LUA or copy files to use your own personal font in any case. WoW can't discover files for you
18:13.57AmadeoSpeaking of Fonts...have you guys noticed that sometimes in the middle of your quest text, one line will be distorted compared to the rest? I'm not sure if it's from ClearFont or if it's a WoW bug
18:14.35Kirkburn|afkAs if the top line of the text has been moved to the bottom?
18:15.00AmadeoI'm not sure, almost like they're stretched longer
18:15.08AmadeoI'll take a screenshot next time I see it
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18:15.36Kirkburn|afkIn any case, it's either a driver bug or WoW bug
18:15.41Kirkburn|afkWhat gfx do you have?
18:16.00Silviu-http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/ this thing only works for US servers ?
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18:16.46AmadeoKirkburn|afk: Nvidia 6600 GT
18:16.48ElkanoKirkburn: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SharedMedia-1.0
18:16.50Kirkburn|afkSilviu-, looks like it :/
18:17.14Elkanoyou basicaly register every font to the library and then ask the lib for a list of registered fonts
18:17.15Kirkburn|afkAmadeo, odd. I have a 6800 GT, though I'm using 100 series drivers as I'm on Vista
18:17.38Elkanothat way clearfont can also use fonts that other addons brought into the font pool
18:17.57shieldbAmadeo, I get that issue with my questlogs all the time
18:18.08shieldbwith the one line of text is off but everything else is AOK
18:18.11Amadeoright
18:18.18Amadeosometimes I see it in other things too
18:18.22shieldbI'm not running clearfont or any font addons, though
18:18.26Amadeobut the quest log is the most apparent
18:18.28Kirkburn|afkElkano, interesting
18:18.31Elkanothe lib returns a table on request that can eg be used for validation in an AceOption table
18:18.32shieldbso I'd be inclined to say it's a wow bug
18:18.40Amadeoshieldb: Good to know!
18:18.52Kirkburn|afkWoo, that's me off the hook ^^
18:19.23Kirkburn|afkElkano, I'll might take a look later
18:19.50Kirkburn|afkBtw, if I want to package an addon for the UI sites, what's the best method?
18:19.51Amadeokergoth: Let me know if you can get Windows-like performance out of it :)
18:19.57Kirkburn|afkJust take a copy off /files?
18:20.07ElkanoI wrote it for my EBB recode and having CF throw its fonts into the d come in handy ^^
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18:21.40ElkanoKirkburn, that's what I do (wrt files)
18:22.04Elkanook, you'll have the changelog files in the zip, but who cares ^^
18:22.54Kirkburn|afkOh yeah, that doesn't bother me :P
18:23.21Uhurusomeone use cg_mount ?
18:26.02PProvostI do
18:26.06deltroni think i do
18:29.36NeoTronEQL3 is really the best questlog addon I've seen but it does seem broken
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18:37.05stavmarNeoTron: I agree, but nQuestLog really takes i tto the next level.
18:38.02Kirkburn|afkWhat does nQuestLog do?
18:38.21stavmarI am sure Neuron would love to explain that to you
18:38.39Kirkburn|afkAh, it has a wiki page I see
18:38.41_neuron_it's a questlog mod
18:38.50Kirkburn|afkMy first google search I spelt wrong
18:38.52_neuron_a very very short and not too updated wiki page yeah, I haven't put too much on there ;)
18:39.05Kirkburn|afkIt does more than is on there? :O
18:39.15shieldbKirkburn|afk: nquestlog finished my heroic quests for me! it's that good!
18:39.23Kirkburn|afklol
18:39.28art3misdid you make the tracker box sizable with mouse scrolling yet? ;)
18:39.30_neuron_<3 ;)
18:39.32stavmarKirkburn|afk: I second that stateemtn
18:39.38stavmarstatement*
18:39.45_neuron_art3mis, nope :p, I'm out of quests
18:39.50_neuron_so I haven't worked on it for a while
18:39.51CIA-1803jerry * r29704 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
18:39.51CIA-18Babble-2.2:
18:39.51CIA-18- Reverted the changes done by next96 on deDE and frFR locales
18:39.53art3misbooo
18:39.55Kirkburn|afkLast update "2007-02-28", zomg that's like a whole week ago!
18:40.02art3misgo  make an alt and finish it ;)
18:40.14_neuron_I will actually transfer an alt to my main server in a few days :p
18:40.22art3misand then add a data miner so it remembers when you get close to objectives ;)
18:40.25_neuron_need a herbalism bot + another highlevel tailor :p
18:40.37_neuron_it might be nice to tie it in a bit more with cartographer
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18:40.43art3misnods that would rock
18:40.51stavmarI was an EQL user bigtime, and did not like how idevelopment stopped, but nQuestlog came to the rescue
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18:41.18Kirkburn|afkAww, but I enjoyed how EQL3 got abandoned ;)
18:41.22IcerothElkano, what's the purpose of SetGlobal()?
18:41.23deltronfubar_questfu > *
18:41.48Kirkburn|afkWell, I shall try out nQuestLog tonight
18:42.25stavmarquests fu is great, I use both, but nQuestlog feels like it has more logic to it
18:42.25art3misKirkburn|afk: get doublewide
18:42.25CIA-1803jerry * r29705 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
18:42.25CIA-18Babble-2.2:
18:42.25CIA-18- added a few missing boss translation
18:42.25art3misits eql
18:42.25zoktarwish either of em would add hide on in/out comabat tho ;P
18:42.25art3misand nquest rules for tracker replacement
18:42.37ElkanoIceroth, I have taken thatone over from SurfaceLib. It will set an overrite value so no matter which handle you are trying to fetch you'll always get the overrite one returned
18:42.48_neuron_zoktar, can't hide/show stuff in combat :p
18:43.11Arrowmasteryes you can
18:43.15shieldbwell you could, but then you wouldn't be able to interact with it :)
18:43.21Iceroth(pst, it's overwrite :)
18:43.25_neuron_yeh
18:43.40Icerothwell yeah, that much i gathered from the wiki but why would i want to do that?
18:44.02NeoTronMaiden of Virtue v3.0 was "fun" to relearn
18:44.17Arrowmasterhow different is it?
18:44.23NeoTronI don't feel that nQuestLog is anything like EQL
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18:44.35pastamancerwhich one is v3.0?
18:44.39NeoTronwell mainly she holy fire people randomly now - i.e not controllable
18:44.55pastamanceraww, that's lame
18:44.56shieldbArrowmaster, maiden definately deep breaths more this patch
18:44.56NeoTronbefore a warrior with a shaman behind him would take all the hits
18:45.14NeoTronI actually got hit with holy fire like 3 times in 15 seconds or so
18:45.26NeoTronthat was unusually frequent, not sure what the heck she did there
18:45.41pastamancershe already has the whole wrath which randomly targets, I thought the holy fire was intended to be controlled
18:45.43NeoTronbut basically it was pretty much like learning a new boss. strategy is much different
18:45.51shieldbat least she doesn't holy fire people with repentance anymore :)
18:46.00NeoTronapparently the "controlling" was the "range exploit" mentioned in the patch notes
18:46.03NeoTronyeah that helps
18:46.22pastamancerI thought the range exploit was hanging out on the edge of the room to out-range it
18:46.48Kirkburn|afkSo, nQuestLog only does minion/tracker stuff and leaves the QL window alone?
18:47.03_neuron_kirk : yes
18:47.12Arrowmasterget DoubleWide if you want a better QuestLog window
18:47.17Kirkburn|afkAh, and where's DoubleWide? :)
18:47.25Arrowmasterwowi
18:47.36Kirkburn|afkTa
18:48.19NeoTronis doublewide always double width? I like how EQL by default is just normal width showing the quests only
18:48.33NeoTronand what about features like a better quest log (nQuestLog doesn't count - I didn't like it at all)
18:48.40NeoTronI mean quest objectives
18:48.42ilifinguys, is there a KeepItCool wannabe mod out there?
18:48.52NeoTronauto-ading, rremoving when finishes, removing finishe dobjectives separately..
18:49.02NeoTronnotification on quest completion, etc
18:49.06NeoTronlots of stuff EQL3 does
18:49.57_neuron_NeoTron, all the features you've listed nquestlog can do btw :P
18:50.34KemayoNeoTron: For that matter, most of them can be done by QuestsFu, which I think you mentioned you were already using.
18:51.26KemayoHmm... actually, I think I haven't added auto-unwatching of completed quests yet.  I should fix that.
18:52.44PneuEU login servers down :<
18:52.52sbuyep
18:52.54sbushutdown in ~8min
18:52.55sbu:)
18:53.14CartasAre most servers going down?
18:53.18Pneuhotfix perhaps
18:53.18lys_Oh, that's it
18:53.25lys_was wondering why I couldn't log on :/
18:53.30CartasMine hasn't said a thing yet :o
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18:54.49Silviu-How many servers are going down ?
18:54.53Silviu-All ? ;)
18:55.00Tornhooflooks like it
18:55.03Nickenyfikeni cant even login :-/
18:55.03Silviu-:/
18:55.04Kirkburn|afkParty pet bug? :)
18:55.06Tornhoofi can't even connect to login server
18:55.08lassizciprobably many as the forums are stucked
18:55.24Tornhoofprobably telia exploded
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18:55.28Silviu-^^
18:55.35chutwighooraaaaaay
18:55.39HjalteAnyone else on EU servers getting "Server shutdown in 6:00" ?
18:55.45chutwigUS servers are all shutting down
18:55.46Silviu-Yes me :)
18:55.51Silviu-US too ?
18:55.51Tornhoofeu servers too
18:55.53Sroshno shutting down here (EU Kazzak)
18:55.58Silviu-Lol ...
18:56.05chutwigUS skullcrusher, at least
18:56.07Sroshor well, at least not the instance server I'm on
18:56.19chutwiggee i can't wait to see what they're hotfixing
18:56.32Elkanowindfury maybe
18:56.37Tornhoofhaha
18:56.43Nickenyfikenhehe
18:56.55Tornhoofnow we're not just nerfed, but hated for being the reason for server shutdowns
18:56.58NeoTron_neuron_: I don't like the look/layout of nquestlog
18:56.59NeoTronI tried it
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18:57.13NeoTronjust personal preference
18:57.17chutwigfollowed by a more comprehensive review of shaman dps to nerf the shit out of it
18:57.24_neuron_that changed a lot a while though, tweaked it quite a bit, but fair enough ;)
18:57.41Pneulogin servers back, all realms down
18:57.42art3mishrm where's a good palce to mine tin and silver
18:57.46Silviu-^^
18:57.50Silviu-Mine not
18:57.52chutwigfor tin try STV
18:57.52Silviu-5 mins :P
18:57.53art3misyeah global shutdown in 3 mins
18:57.54kenlyricoh come on, that's not the only we reason we hate druids.
18:57.57NeoTronI don't want stuff split by regions and stuff
18:57.58Silviu-2.30
18:57.59chutwigsilver is pretty unpredictable
18:58.00Silviu-:)
18:58.02NeoTroni.e I don't want a quest log replacement
18:58.02kenlyricI hate them because they're all fucking feral.
18:58.10NeoTronI just want quest<NL>objective 1: X/Y
18:58.11NeoTronetc
18:58.13CIA-1803kemayo * r29706 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (QuestsFu.lua QuestsFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu: Add option to unwatch quests when you complete them.
18:58.16chutwigi like nquestlog but i liked the way EQL did it a little more
18:58.27art3misim sitting at 119 mining, need 125 for iron ;(
18:58.31chutwigwhere it replaced the blizzard questwatch frame rather than trying to replace the tracker entirely
18:58.31NeoTronmaybe I should see if I can figure out how to fix EQL instead
18:58.53art3misneotron: doublewide ;)
18:59.02art3missame dealie as eql
18:59.05art3misalmost exactly
18:59.14_neuron_hm, note to self, update wiki with a link to that
18:59.28_neuron_it's a request I get quite often, and I wont add it cuz its hackish and will require a ton of code.
19:00.12NeoTronI'll check that out
19:00.22art3misi think its on wowi
19:00.44NeoTronso it seems to be just the double-wide display
19:00.47NeoTronnot much else?
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19:03.55vhaarrKemayo: QuestsFu has way too many options now :P
19:04.03Kemayovhaarr: Yeah, I know.
19:04.05vhaarrKemayo: You have to remove like 50% of them IMO.
19:04.08vhaarrKemayo: It should be easy.
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19:04.34Kemayovhaarr: I could probably trim out a bunch of it in exchange for sensible defaults, it's true
19:04.40vhaarrKemayo: right
19:04.54vhaarrKemayo: I don't even bother reading the options to be honest, I've only opened the menu once.
19:05.01vhaarrKemayo: I was like "hell no", and closed it.
19:05.20Funkeh`any ideas whats going on with the frame strata here? http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1098/wowscrnshot030707203355qh7.jpg
19:05.33Elkanovhaarr, luckily you haven't seen what's coming for EBB ;)
19:05.40vhaarrElkano: oh dear god :P
19:05.45Kemayovhaarr: By default it works exactly how I like it to.  I think of the options as being for Other People. :D
19:05.55Gngskeye spy titan bar!
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19:08.38Soullessservers down wtfcakes
19:08.50vhaarrKemayo: hehe
19:09.08Morcokhey
19:10.36cncfanaticsya Soulless, here too
19:10.39cncfanaticsemergency shutdown it seems
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19:10.48IagoooUhm
19:10.49IagoooHey guys
19:10.52chutwigi'm sure they found some insignificant thing that desperately needs to be hotfixed
19:10.58IagoooIs this the Addon IRC for WoW?
19:11.21CartasHi old chap.
19:11.27CartasThis is just pretty much for Ace addons :)
19:11.30Amadeohahaha, Blizzard said the current realm restarts were a bug and shouldn't have happened
19:11.32IagoooAah sweet :)
19:11.39IagoooI was wondering
19:11.43Silviu-Amadeo link ?
19:11.44Silviu-:)
19:11.49CartasMy server didn't go down <3
19:12.00nevcairielUS i bet
19:12.06cncfanaticslol Amadeo
19:12.14AmadeoUS Forums, they're hosed and hard to get to
19:12.17IagoooI am using Ag_uf and I saw some skins and bars that weren't included in the default download, where can I see the additional skins for AG_UF?
19:12.39GngskIagooo, WoWI?
19:12.39IagoooEU WoW was down too :/
19:12.54IagoooI have no idea where to look, a direct link to some would be appreciated.
19:13.38CIA-1803funkydude * r29707 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua:
19:13.38CIA-18BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen:
19:13.38CIA-18- changing phase 2 trigger to emote since he has too many yells
19:13.59IagoooAnyone?
19:14.01ArrowmasterIagooo: try http://www.wowace.com/files/Surfaces/Surfaces-r28012.4.zip
19:14.27IagoooShould I put this in AG_UF directory or?
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19:14.31Arrowmasterno
19:14.33IagoooIm really bad at these stuff :(
19:14.40IagoooOki
19:14.46Silviu-Arrowmaster he need different styles
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19:15.15Arrowmasteroh, i just saw bars
19:15.21Silviu-Iagooo http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6814-aUF_Layouts.html
19:15.54stavmarso what is the concensus on outfit mods. I currently use Outfitter but need a change as it will no longer be developed, any suggestions?
19:16.20Silviu-I use ClosetGnome with no problems
19:16.21chutwig"We are experiencing an issue with our internal software that monitors and controls our realm infrastructure.  Due to this, an incorrect command had been issued to restart all realms.  We are working immeidately on the application involved to correct this matter, however the realm restarts can not be avoided at this time.  They will restart as commanded and should come back on line shortly thereafter.  We will provide further updates within the half
19:16.21chutwig-hour.  We apologize for the impact this has had on your game play."
19:16.22Funkeh`for crying out loud
19:16.26chutwigwall of text!
19:16.27Chompersoutfitter isnt being developed?
19:16.33Chomperssince when :O
19:16.33Funkeh`how did the ancient agUF bug find its way back in
19:16.37Gngskhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6944-AGUnitFramebartexturesandfontreplacement.html
19:16.44GngskIagooo, try that link
19:16.46Funkeh`party and pet portraits are not saving position -_-
19:17.01chutwigmy party pet health bars are broken again
19:17.03ggilbertchutwig: where did that popup?
19:17.09Kinkxchutwig, link?
19:17.16chutwigit's under breaking news on login
19:17.20Kinkxoh
19:17.27deltronwhat's broken?
19:17.32chutwigsomebody done pressed the 4BIG RED BUTTON
19:17.36deltronlol
19:17.38Krazelol
19:17.53deltronI sure do hope they did the DST fixes on their servers
19:18.20Kinkxchutwig, you play on the US servers?
19:18.32chutwigKinkx: apparently i'm one of like three people in here who isn't EU
19:18.33KinkxNo breaking news on the EU ones that I can see
19:18.48Kinkx^_^
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19:19.05Icerothmaybe the news are so breaking that they broke the news system..
19:19.22chutwigor maybe they just hate filthy unshaved pothead europeans
19:20.09kenlyriclol
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19:22.11Iagooohttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=95BD0F668832361EF0DD714A0A11E0F8.forum08?topicId=208890919&sid=1
19:22.32KinkxWhats that? Can't load it
19:22.32IagoooThere is a small movie in this thread that contains a guy messing around in Shattrah, drawing mobs there, it's his UI I want.
19:22.58IagoooSeems the EU forums are down.
19:22.59nevcairielyou should wait until those restarts are over :D
19:23.10IagoooI thought that was US.
19:23.44Tornhoofwell the forums in europe are more down than up after all
19:23.54nevcairielEU had restarts now
19:23.57nevcairieldunno if US did too
19:24.04deltronhttp://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/home
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19:24.33IagoooIs the author of Ag_uf around here or someone good on that matter?
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19:25.00Arrowmastersome US servers are down
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19:25.24Pneu`i wonder if EU and US are all controlled from the same place then if everywhere got restarted
19:25.28Cartasnevcairiel: My server is still up.
19:25.33Cartasand I'm on a EU server.
19:25.42Arrowmastermy server isnt even showing up in the realm list
19:25.43Pneu`my EU server went down
19:25.47nevcairielmine too
19:25.51hasteGrim Batol is also up
19:25.56CartasLeifur FTW.
19:25.57nevcairielprolly got lucky Cartas, or you will be hit soon too
19:26.03Cartas:(
19:26.03Tornhoofmine went done and went up again
19:26.08Kinkxserva daun
19:26.09IagoooMy server is up, but Im stuck on retrieve character bla bla bla
19:26.40Lucifearmust've been some bug
19:26.47Ordogstewped patching ...
19:26.47Morcoknerzul seems to be up, but im kick after the loading
19:27.13IagoooIs there anyone here that have played on both EU and WOW clients?
19:27.22Morcokok, auth are down now :)
19:27.36IagoooEU and US*
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19:28.11KinkxI used to play on US, play on EU now though
19:28.50IagoooIm thinking of moving to US realms because the maturity on EU is quite low, I dont know how it is on US, but getting a guild on EU is quite hard and I wonder, is it a plus if I move over to US?
19:29.05Xabinwouldn't think so
19:29.23HarshmageWe've got a maturity problem over here too.
19:29.59_neuron_why would it be any different on US :P
19:30.00uKnowMeis gandharva there??
19:30.02Tornhoofmaturity and wow doesn't fit ;)
19:30.16Morcokaggre
19:30.32KinkxI prefer EU, better ping, don't need to raid till 6:00 am in the morning etc
19:30.51IagoooI see.
19:30.53Kinkxthe time difference makes it hard, main reason I moved to the EU server
19:30.54nevcairielheh the raid times would suck for a EU guy on US servers
19:31.25IagoooI usually play nights anyways.
19:31.37IagoooBut I hate the *lolz omg l2p nab* leet talk.
19:31.44IagoooIs it any of that on US?
19:31.54nevcairielget a good guild and that doesnt happen
19:32.16knarf^what barfader works properly for aguf? :>
19:32.23Tornhoofget on a rp server and it shouldnt happen ;)
19:32.44KinkxI don't see any on that, Iagooo
19:33.04lassizcil2p and you won't see that :P
19:33.06KinkxWell, maybe in general chat sometimes.. but not huge problem
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19:34.05lassizciCould imagine it's the same thing on both us and eu
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19:34.19zorkmid25World of Warcarft sucks
19:34.30Kirkburn|afk"The maturity on EU is quite low"
19:34.42Kirkburn|afkThat makes me lol :P
19:34.44vhaarrKirkburn|afk: What?
19:34.51vhaarrSome American actually said that?
19:35.02Kirkburn|afklagooo about 5 mins ago
19:35.04zorkmid25the maturity of all WoW players is probably pretty low
19:35.14knarf^zorkmid25 sod off
19:35.15knarf^:)
19:35.21zorkmid25just sayin
19:35.33Kirkburn|afkOh, that's an I, not an L at the start.
19:35.43Morcokwhat doest l2p means ?
19:35.48zorkmid25learn 2 play
19:35.55Kirkburn|afklove two poodles
19:35.55Morcokoky thx
19:35.58Kirkburn|afkl2r
19:36.32Morcokin french it should mean "langue de pute"
19:36.34zorkmid25WoW players are all sad pathetic losers, guildmates are nothing more than the other alcoholics sitting at the same bar
19:36.45zorkmid25they seem friendly, but the aint really
19:36.49zorkmid25they just wanna get drunk
19:37.00art3miscept mine got thrown out of the good bars and had to hang out in EQmac for a while ;P
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19:37.12knarf^zorkmid25 getting a kick out of it?
19:37.34zorkmid25lol art
19:37.43zorkmid25I imagine EQ is similar
19:37.47art3miseq is worse
19:37.52art3mismuch much much worse
19:37.55zorkmid25why
19:38.00yacoobgaaa!
19:38.01Fisker-bah not klauz Iagooo
19:38.04yacoobNECB still lives!
19:38.07art3mislots of the convience we love in wow doesnt exist there
19:38.16art3mislike the whole spirit healer thing ;P
19:38.38zorkmid25thats got nothing to do with the games being an unequal waste of time?
19:38.48zorkmid25Do you waste as much time on EQ as WoW ?
19:38.56art3misnot to mention it's ugly, the interface blows chunks and paladins are 5 times as annoying
19:39.07art3misnever played eq ;P
19:39.24art3misim merely paraphrasing my friend whos played it since it started
19:39.33zorkmid25any "game" that rewards simply playing for many many hours is inherently gay
19:39.48zorkmid25I played WoW for like 6 months
19:39.49art3misthats not true
19:39.58art3misstrip poker rewards for length of time ;P
19:40.01zorkmid25there is absolutely no point to it
19:40.04art3misand thats not gay most of the time
19:40.09KinkxIt should be like, log on, get loot then GAME OVER
19:40.21Kinkxin 2-3 mins, that would be so AWESOME!
19:40.21yacoobs/loot/fun/
19:40.23yacoobthen yes.
19:40.25art3misi'd be happy if wow was also available in stand alone format
19:40.42zorkmid25When I quit I had 7/8 pieces of T3 and I was MT of a guild, there is no skill required
19:40.49art3miswith npc party members like guild wars
19:40.49zorkmid25just show up and click your mouse over and over
19:41.03yacoobguildwars++ :)
19:41.11art3misguildwrs on the whole sucks
19:41.16zorkmid25Oh yea, and run the same place and kill the same things and get the same loot over and over and over
19:41.16art3misbut its got some nice features
19:41.29art3misi hate guildwars for one reason and one reason only btw
19:41.31KinkxWell, WoW is a game, a game is suppose to entertain you, if it's not entertaining you, and it's no fun for you, zorkmid25, then yea, you should go find something else to do
19:41.32yacoobwhy 'sucks'?
19:41.33art3misno jumping
19:41.38HarshmageGW is for the ADD kids.
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19:41.52art3misd&d is for the ad&d kids ;P
19:41.58zorkmid25Kinkx, my point is that WoW is barely even a game
19:42.00AmadeoGW interface is horrible
19:42.01art3misd&d had some nice stuff
19:42.04zorkmid25its like a video lottery terminal
19:42.05yacoobart3mis, not true.
19:42.08art3misi loved the spells and combat in d&d
19:42.12IagoooThx for the help guys, Im off :)
19:42.20HarshmageI beta'ed DDO....it wasn't what I liked...but it was decent enough
19:42.20art3misthe rest of it was lacking on a social standpoint
19:42.24Kinkxzorkmid25 - I think your experience with WoW haven't been the same as mine
19:42.27yacoobit's not that customizable, but it's good.
19:42.30art3misHarshmage: yeah me too
19:42.49art3misi just wish the nice people from blackisle would come back together
19:43.01art3misthe ones that made nwn and bladurs gate and icewind dale
19:43.04zorkmid25Oh yea, and when I quit, my guildmates are all mad at me, never talked to me again, because I didnt want to waste my time playing anymore
19:43.08art3misand make THAT mmo
19:43.12zorkmid25is that friendship?
19:43.18HarshmageI wish Gary Gygax made DDO....but noooooo....
19:43.19art3misi'd dump wow without a second thought if blackisle made a mmo
19:43.36zorkmid25The first thing that was said to me when I said Id quit was "well you had better give that warrior to the guild"
19:43.48zorkmid25which made me immediately sell it
19:43.54yacoobdonate to 4chan? :D
19:44.10Fisker-you can't
19:44.12zorkmid25The real reasons people pretended to like me showed up
19:44.43art3misoh i got to play warhammer at the comic con a few weeks ago too
19:44.43zorkmid25shortly after everyone started fighting and the whole guild chunked and nobody talks to anybody anymore
19:44.43art3missame interface as wow
19:44.57art3missame movements, combat is better
19:45.00yacoobzorkmid25, see? That's the kind of abomination that fun and game turns to.
19:45.03art3misquests suck baclls
19:45.14zorkmid25WoW might be good if they had stuff such as "pickpocketing other players"  get rid of all this Bind on equip stuff
19:45.22zorkmid25make your gear drop when a player kills you
19:45.23zorkmid25etc
19:45.28art3misand to interact with things you need to click all ofver the screen until something you're close to moves
19:45.32kenlyricyeah, about 5 million of us would stop playing because that's a stupid fucking idea.
19:45.35yacoobmake 'hardcore pvp' server? :D
19:45.39Stephmwkenlyric: agreed.
19:45.40HarshmageI'll play WH40K, but only for a while...
19:45.59art3misHarshmage: i'd play beta, but it's not something i'd actively pay to play
19:46.02kenlyricyacoob: that would be an idea.
19:46.16kenlyricbut wow isn't class balanced and never will be.
19:46.23art3misnwn online might be fun though
19:46.28yacooband 'nightmare hardcore pvp', with swarms of tiny gnome mutants raping innocent bystanders
19:46.39art3misyacoob: go get mangos ;P
19:46.41Fisker-this is my /b/ face
19:46.45zorkmid25well I suggest you all get some addon that shows you how much time you have spent playing, mine was like 24 days......24 DAYS in the game !!!!!  in like 6-7 months !!!  What a fucking waste of life.  Get that addon, and really look at the number displayed
19:46.46kenlyricnightmare pvp is where your health would always stay at 25%
19:46.54yacoobkenlyric, that + blizzard has funny way of 'fixing bugs' and 'making sides even'
19:47.10art3miszorkmid25: most of us mudded prior to this
19:47.14yacoobzorkmid25, no addon needed, /played
19:47.16Kinkxzorkmid25 - can just do /played
19:47.17Harshmagezorkmid25, it's called Telo's Clock...
19:47.19art3misi've got over 600 days on my old mud since 96
19:47.32zorkmid25christ
19:47.38zorkmid25so you're a life
19:47.38kenlyricMUSH
19:47.39zorkmid25r
19:47.43art3mis80% of that was idling and trolling but still..
19:47.54zorkmid25ever feel like you're missing something?
19:47.55art3misnah i was a good scripter ;P
19:47.57yacoobzorkmid25, luckily you're not the person the world was make into an image of :)
19:47.58kenlyricI don't remember my password for elenorMUSH
19:47.59art3misnot really
19:48.01Grollzorkmid25 i had 130 days played up until half a year ago since release.. then i quit and some month ago i started again :)
19:48.17art3misi have my own company, i got married moved to new york have a wicked house
19:48.32art3misplus i skated for a good 8 years
19:48.36yacoobwhat's really sad, are people that log on to game and they broadcast "I'm bored".
19:48.42yacoob*this* looks odd and dangerous, I'd agree.
19:48.58kenlyricI say I'm bored and then log out.
19:49.10Fisker-am i a meme now?
19:49.13art3misi fish when im bored
19:49.19art3misor go exploring
19:49.22yacoobwell, if I find game not fun to play, I stop playing and do something else.
19:49.33art3misya know whats funny though
19:49.36art3mispuzzle bobble
19:49.41zorkmid25wtf do you enjoy about it?
19:49.43art3misthat friggin game is so stupidly addictive
19:49.53KinkxI pvp when i'm bored, and suddenly i'm not bored anymore :)
19:50.17art3miszorkmid25: was your entire game play running around with someone and not challengeing yourself like you were playing a stand alone home installed game?
19:50.18zorkmid25I prefer squash to any MMORPG computer game.....
19:50.36yacoobzorkmid25, go squash something then 8)
19:50.43zorkmid25I was a tank, how the hell could I challenge myself
19:50.51zorkmid25and I dont even like squash
19:51.03yacoob(judging from the constant whine here, you're prefering being whiny)
19:51.14zorkmid25but that doesnt matter, all the other classes basically get some addon and click one button anyway
19:51.22art3miswhich does beg the question, why are you on irc in a wow related channel bragging about how cool you are for being outside most of the time? and how l;ame this game is?
19:51.43art3miserr "bragging"
19:51.45yacoobart3mis, his life seems empty without someone to be better than :D
19:51.52art3misoh
19:51.52zorkmid25well art, I dont squash outside useually....and I just saw this HUGE channel in the list.
19:52.00cncfanaticsone button ? yea, a mage got a button to pvp for them
19:52.04art3misit's still irc ;P
19:52.07cncfanaticsblink, frost nova, all on its own !:
19:52.22zorkmid25cnc, im talking about raids
19:52.25art3misirc is where people with no self worth end up ;P
19:52.27yacoobzorkmid25, in fact we're all islamist terrorists planning a big hit on America. Allah akbar, and now we must kill you!
19:52.34zorkmid25good
19:52.42zorkmid25hit the blizz building please
19:52.45cncfanaticszorkmid25, good thing is, one button can cast one and the same action and that action can't change
19:52.53cncfanaticsand, the blizz building is in the UK
19:53.05zorkmid25no its not, its in the states
19:53.27zorkmid25cnc, there are mods that will select your spell for you and cast it
19:53.38zorkmid25especially for healers
19:53.51yacoobzorkmid25, you're not up to date. There are not.
19:53.55cncfanaticszorkmid25, ever did anything with addons after BC ?
19:53.57yacoobAnymore.
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19:55.17yacooband if we speak about terminally addicted folks, I have one. Never played wow, yet he knows every single piece of lore, mechanics and world
19:55.17yacoobThat's *creepy*
19:55.30art3misthe lore is kind of neat
19:55.56HarshmageLore is freaking awesome...
19:56.00kenlyricthis game would be pretty useless without a story.
19:56.01yacoobart3mis, there's significant problem (for me) with WoW. When I played GW, I was happy to see constant storyline through the game
19:56.06zorkmid25no cnc, quit a long time ago
19:56.09Gandharvamööp uknowme!
19:56.09Harshmagetill they dumped in the Dranei..
19:56.11kenlyricIf I want a game with no useful story, I can play EQ
19:56.29yacoobwith WoW, well, not much happens. Because of the non-instanced world, which simply *forces* the game to preserve status quo.
19:56.38zorkmid25yacoob, close
19:56.44kenlyricif I want a game with a deep compelling story with crappy gameplay, I can play LotRo... WoW is a good middle ground.
19:56.44zorkmid25with WoW, NOTHING happens
19:56.45zorkmid25:)
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19:56.50yacoobok AQ was opened. But that's pretty much.
19:57.05AmadeoI'm not sure what professions I should pick with my Rogue
19:57.10kenlyricdark portal opened :)
19:57.17zorkmid25quitter and uninstaller amadeo
19:57.17kenlyricnaxx appeared.
19:57.28kenlyricSilithus was magically transformed overnight.
19:57.29AmadeoIs that what you chose?
19:57.31Sroshif you want real story progression, you should play single-player RPGs
19:57.35yacoobkenlyric, yeah, Naxx. I'm refering to permanent changes to locations.
19:57.38zorkmid25yup
19:57.46zorkmid25I was armorsmith miner
19:57.46AmadeoThen why hang out in an addon channel?
19:57.51yacoobSrosh, but it's fun to meet people through the story :)
19:57.59Sroshthat's true ^^
19:58.09zorkmid25this isaddon?
19:58.12yacoobI'd like to take a try on MxO, they have people playing as NPCs to create events.
19:58.54ag`Shadowbane 4life.
19:58.58ag`eod
19:59.41Amadeorofl
20:00.33AmadeoI played Shadowlame for a while
20:01.15AmadeoI thought they closed down
20:01.29AmadeoSurprised it's still going
20:01.45zorkmid25play nethack
20:01.57zorkmid25if you want to think your way through a challenge
20:01.57Fisker-i play neth4x
20:02.13zorkmid25play wow if you wanna click a same thing over and over.
20:02.28Nickenyfikenif you click on a itemlink in chat a "permanent" tooltip is opened, what is that frame called?
20:02.30zorkmid25and run naxx 40 times
20:02.31yacoobthere's little thinking in nethack, tbh.
20:02.33zorkmid25bwl 40 times
20:02.36zorkmid25and MC 100 times
20:02.50yacoobto rephrase: there are only little riddles thrown at you
20:03.01AmadeoI haven't seen this much complaining since I left the forums
20:03.35yacoobAmadeo, that's because we're skillful, and we can master everything - even whine!
20:03.39yacoob*flex*
20:03.43Amadeohaha
20:05.47cncfanatic1zorkmid25, I do agree that WoW is kinda static, but, thats what alts and rerolling is for
20:05.54cncfanatic1argh, damn ghost
20:11.36CIA-1803kagaro * r29708 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2: updated some de locales
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20:25.01Antiarc|WorkAgain, Armory = awesome
20:25.02Antiarc|Workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/gog-class-comparison.html
20:25.08Antiarc|WorkAnyone want me to do their guild? :D
20:25.55Morcokarmory sux
20:26.32StephmwAntiarc|Work: what do you use those tables for?
20:26.40Antiarc|WorkStephmw: Amusement, mostly
20:26.56JagobahAntiarc!
20:27.00Antiarc|Work<PROTECTED>
20:27.04JagobahDo High Caliber of Kel'Thuzad :)
20:27.15Antiarc|WorkOn it!
20:27.45Antiarc|WorkRunning...
20:27.59Jagobah=]
20:28.34Antiarc|Workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/high-caliber-comparison.html
20:29.37Jagobahbadass thanks
20:30.10Celorilhttp://wowi.pastey.net/7906 <-- getting a nil table error on line 75.. any ideas?
20:30.28Antiarc|WorkHm, looks like realms with apostrophes break the links. Regenerating.
20:31.06Antiarc|WorkThere we go.
20:31.23kenlyricwhat's GoG stand for?
20:31.37Antiarc|WorkGuild of Guilds. It's our guild alliance.
20:31.43kenlyricah, ok.
20:32.11ckknightAntiarc|Work: Legion of the Abyss on Blade's Edge
20:32.13ckknight;-)
20:32.16JagobahYou should put a level field in there
20:32.17Celorilseems like in my script setting a table to {} when it contains data is causing an error.. wtf?
20:32.26JagobahJust my suggestion :)
20:32.28Antiarc|WorkI should include level, yes
20:32.33kenlyricyou must put that script on the SVN!
20:32.33Antiarc|WorkIt currently only looks at 60+ characters
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20:32.37Jagobaheverything else looks nice, handy tool!
20:32.46Antiarc|Workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/compare.rb
20:32.51Antiarc|WorkThere it is if you want to play with it
20:32.56ckknightAntiarc|Work: ah, nvm then, not many 60+'s in my guild
20:32.58Antiarc|WorkNeeds better configuration, but eh.
20:33.06Antiarc|WorkI can change it to look at sub-60s easily
20:33.13kenlyricruby?
20:33.22Antiarc|WorkYeah
20:33.41kenlyricwonder if dreamhost will let me run ruby scripts.
20:33.56Antiarc|WorkYou can run it locally. It just generates an HTML file
20:34.03Antiarc|WorkIt's far too expensive to run on every request :)
20:34.18kenlyrictrue.
20:34.22Funkeh`ag`: ping
20:34.30StephmwAntiarc|Work: nice, I didn't realise it exposed the api as xml
20:34.37StephmwAntiarc|Work: have they done the same for items?
20:34.48Antiarc|WorkYes, you just have to send a user agent it recognizes as XSLT-capable
20:34.53Antiarc|WorkI'm using my Firefox user agent
20:34.59kenlyricI basically want to find out if I have the most spirit on the server ;)
20:35.00Funkeh`ag`: your fix broke the saving of the party and pet frames in agUF completely
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20:38.38ag`saving
20:38.40ag`?
20:38.45ag`you mean positioning?
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20:41.00ckknightis there an addon that will help me keep track of my personal spell cooldowns?
20:41.27Antiarc|WorkI use oCD, personally
20:41.29JoshBorkeckknight: i still use oCD
20:41.40ckknightwhere can I get that?
20:41.44JoshBorkeKaelten: ping
20:41.47JoshBorkeckknight: you can't ;-)
20:42.01ckknightisn't it up on his own site?
20:43.14Elkanockknight, maybe bach in the 15000 on svn ;)
20:43.42KaeltenJoshBorke: pong
20:43.58kenlyricI used the one the SVN, cooldowntimers or something. But cooldown counts + chrono timers are good for most of my stuff.
20:44.50JoshBorkeKaelten: you finish your letter? :-D
20:45.09oKarnsylvanaar, can i lend an ear?
20:45.14oKarnsorry ... borrow an ear
20:45.33KaeltenJoshBorke:  lol ya
20:45.55ckknightoh, also, is there something better than SmartBuff to handle my buffing?
20:46.04kenlyricwork compolete!
20:46.12JoshBorkeckknight: clique ;-P
20:46.18kenlyricckknight: for self buffing? no
20:46.22ckknightJoshBorke: no, as I have to pay attention
20:46.32ckknightSmartBuff handles buffing OOC for myself and my party
20:46.36kenlyricsmartbuff is what I use.
20:46.49ckknightworks great for me, just wondering if anything might be better
20:46.53kenlyricthough I just use it for me... i don't trust it for party buffs because I haven't played around with the options.
20:47.09Elkanockknight 21937 was deleting of oCD, so try rev 21936
20:47.19ckknightI'm trying out CooldownTimers2
20:48.20CIA-1803nymbia * r29709 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
20:48.20CIA-18Manufac:
20:48.20CIA-18- Prevent some odd errors when certain chunks of auctioneer aren't loaded.
20:49.06ckknightCooldownTimers2 looks like it'll work for me
20:49.17JoshBorkeckknight: you should just write one
20:49.40ckknightJoshBorke: as I said, CooldownTimers2 works for me.
20:49.44ckknightwhy would I write one?
20:53.00sergiowhat I do for cooldown timers is keep spells that I care about on my first bar and just look at the omnicc timer.  I think having a seperate addon is annoying.  i.e. http://sp.cream.org/images/wow/ui20070307.jpg
20:53.09Industrialomzg its sergio
20:53.20sergioI never try to hit those keys anyway since they're out of my way
20:53.26sergioso i just use them for cooldowns
20:53.29Industrialhru bishie :D
20:53.35sergioHELLO INDUSTRIAL
20:53.42sergio(((((Industrial)))))
20:54.09Industrialhai2u.com
20:54.34sergioI never try to hit keys with my fingers after 6 anyway
20:54.48sergioi just bind them to ALT+x
20:55.08Industrialwalk with tfgh then
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20:55.35Industrialmeh, that doesnt work fir mmo's; modifier keys too far away
20:55.49sergioyep
20:56.03sergiowasd is the only movement keys I can use because of ctrl and alt being close
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20:56.16sergioi swapped ctrl with my windows keys using KeyTweak
20:57.39sergioi'm sorta waiting for 2.1 for trinket cooldowns on bars too
20:57.45hasteit feels more correct to play with ESDF!
20:57.50hasteprobably because of touch or something
20:57.56sergiobut i don't care that much since I have it usually timed in my head when to swap and feign
20:58.00hasteand the fact that I've done it since QuakeWrold
20:58.25Elkanowtf? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELRNZCZtLvs
20:58.35FISKER_QThis is my oFace
20:58.37sergioi play quake with a whole different approach.  mouse2 is forward and s is to jump
20:58.42JoshBorkeElkano: that thing was awesome
20:58.51sergiosince netquake/quakeworld
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21:01.29hasteI used mouse2 to jump actually
21:02.06hasteI switched to space when I started with Action Quake tho'
21:02.09sergioi've touched quake once since wow came out
21:02.15sergiololol
21:02.32sergioAQ2 was hot  urban4life
21:02.57FISKER_QElkano report them!
21:03.00hasteI still play AQ2 with friends :)
21:03.03sergiogod I remember one of these guys I knew made a columbine map of the school and we played AQ2 on it
21:03.38hastewe still have a aq2 server running actually :p
21:04.05hasteit's down these week as it's used as a web-server on a lan as we speak tho'
21:04.12hastethis*
21:05.05sergiosadly all my mojo for fps games is gone
21:05.10sergioi don't even have an interest in them
21:05.52Punkie`I still like to go back and play Medal of Honor Allied Assault, played that for a years!
21:06.01Punkie`even though it only had 3 objective maps :P
21:07.04ckknightI do want there to be a proper way to handle lines and areas in Cartographer
21:07.22ckknightjust don't know the best way to store the data
21:07.30Punkie`store it in a gnome
21:07.48Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5132.new#new
21:08.11Industrialhaste: i also play esdf, well in fps games
21:08.17Industriala is duck etc
21:08.25CIA-1803ominous * r29710 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/FuBar_RogueTimerFu.toc: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: fixed spelling in toc
21:08.25hasteI play with esdf in wow also
21:08.49pastamancerckknight: { "type", x1, y1, x2, y2, ... }
21:08.53FISKER_Qi play fgsfds
21:09.00Industrialpastamancer: see thread i made
21:09.03ckknighttype?
21:09.06ckknightwhat's type?
21:09.08hasteFISKER_Q: for god sake fuck dis shit
21:09.12pastamancerline, area, polygon
21:09.25ckknightalso, I would totally compress the x and y together
21:09.30ckknighthrm
21:09.34ckknightthat's a good idea, though
21:09.47ckknight{ "type", point1, point2, ... }
21:09.49Industrialwe are getting area locations :O?
21:09.52pastamancereither storage or access will be expensive, that's the tradeoff
21:10.09Industrialit only has to load once per area - booya
21:10.10ckknightthere's no real way to speed up access, since it's spatial
21:10.28ckknightand I don't want areas to be just rectangular
21:10.36pastamancerdepending on how you combine the x/y coords into one table value
21:10.39ckknightI think I'd like areas as a rotatable ellipse
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21:11.06FISKER_QIndustrial your idea is horrible and you should feel bad
21:11.07pastamancerline, circle, oval, polygon?
21:11.20ckknightcircle = oval
21:11.23IndustrialFISKER_Q: you were the first i'd expect a comment from
21:11.23ckknightmaybe...
21:11.28IndustrialFISKER_Q: i love you too
21:11.29ckknightline, rectangle, ellipse, polygon
21:11.38FISKER_QSeriously though i like the idea although i'd mostly use it to find "This item starts a quest"-objects
21:11.42pastamancerrectangle is just a special case of polygon
21:12.09FISKER_QBut you could perhaps talk with the questobjective dude
21:12.14FISKER_QYour ideas are kinda similar
21:12.18IndustrialFISKER_Q: well any sequence that has you moving could use it.. skill grinding guides etc
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21:13.04FISKER_QIn the end you'd have to need a community writing and uploading to some sort of central server which puts it in the newest release of the addon
21:13.12FISKER_Qimo atleast
21:13.21Punkie`you cant use joanas guild tho
21:13.29Industrialyeah thats commercial
21:13.34pastamancerIndustrial: what about it?  Want me to paste the dfs and/or tsp algorithims there?
21:15.12Industrialpastamancer: no, but we were talking about it yesterday and you came up with a different way of storing the data - thought you might be interested
21:16.41FISKER_Qhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/220242101.htm <-oh fuck you buddy
21:16.50FISKER_QI want to take a job as anything at vivendi
21:17.07FISKER_QSo i can get close to Crezax, stalk him on the way home, kill him and dump him in an alley
21:17.08FISKER_Qsorta
21:17.23kenlyriclol.
21:17.30kenlyricit's a forum moderator, not exactly an enemy.
21:17.45FISKER_Qi'm the worst kind of person
21:17.46kenlyricthey're low-payed keymonkeys
21:18.19FISKER_QI hate him for ever banning
21:18.20FISKER_Qme
21:18.29FISKER_QI've not been able to login for over half a year now
21:18.52kenlyricuh... time to move on then.
21:19.09kenlyricor do you just mean the forums?
21:19.15FISKER_Qyeah
21:19.15OverloadUT|WorkWait you got a 6 month ban?
21:19.22kenlyriclol.
21:19.24FISKER_QNo i got a permament ban
21:19.28Industrial...
21:19.29Industrialwhy?
21:19.30kenlyriceveryone who gets banned from the forums deservs it. true story.
21:19.33OverloadUT|WorkFor that forum post?
21:19.35FISKER_QFor posting an ascii owl
21:19.40Industrialhah
21:19.41kenlyricthere you go.
21:19.47OverloadUT|WorkHaha
21:19.47kenlyricascii art = devil
21:20.01FISKER_QYeah it's not like the CM's themselves use ascii art
21:20.25FISKER_QThey even changed the rule about ascii art after it was apparent they were jackasses(ommra had one in his signature)
21:20.25Funkeh`ag1: yes
21:20.34Funkeh`ag`: yes i mean postition
21:20.39FISKER_QAnd my ban was lifted a couple of weeks later
21:20.45Funkeh`ag` ancient bug got fixed ages ago seems to be back
21:20.47FISKER_Qthe problem i have is that i'm unable to login for some reason
21:20.53FISKER_QAnd they're not willing to fix that bug right now
21:21.09Funkeh`ag`: i also get an error on UI reload and agUF completely dies, you want a dump?
21:21.10kenlyricyes, because the CMs are responsible for that.
21:21.29kenlyricpoor crezax
21:21.36FISKER_QIf i hadn't been banned needlessly it wouldn't have happened anyways :)
21:24.58FISKER_QBut anyways i don't think Crezax nor Ommra are using the proper guidelines to moderate the forum, and that's the biggest reason that i dislike them :P
21:25.32kenlyricyeah, wow CMs and GMs are dicks.
21:25.43kenlyricthey banned me just cause I botted a little bit for 9 months.
21:26.00pastamancerIndustrial: I'll have to check my logs
21:26.01FISKER_QWell deserved
21:26.03FISKER_Q:P
21:26.33kenlyricmeh, their website still says I should have gotten a warning that my obviously wrong behaviour was wrong. Injustice, I say!
21:26.36ckknightkenlyric: don't bot!
21:26.44kenlyricnow I have a human... 10% spirit FTW!
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21:26.57Gngskspirit sux
21:27.02Gngskmp5 ftw!
21:27.06kenlyricsuck on my spirit, gngsk
21:27.26kenlyricnononono, downrank to lesser heal 3 and spam that.
21:27.37Gngskwhy would I do that?
21:27.39NightHawkTheSaneI thought gheal1 was the new heal2?
21:27.41GngskI'd never go oom
21:27.55kenlyricwell, the same reason you would spam flash heal. Stupidity.
21:28.03kenlyricgheal1 meh.
21:28.20kenlyricI use gheal1 on squishies that need a mildyly big heal.
21:28.27NightHawkTheSaneactually, no, flash of light is the new heal2, pally healing ftw.
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21:28.52kenlyricqft
21:29.06kenlyricI wanna get my mana back on a crit.
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21:30.24pastamancerIndustrial: posted the relevant portion of my log, I'll tidy it up later.
21:30.34Industrialpastamancer: sure :D
21:32.54Industrialhttp://www.google.com/search?q=Wow-2.0.8.6403-to-2.0.10.6448-enGB-patch.exe
21:32.58Industrialnothing :(
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21:36.07FISKER_Qwhat are you looking for Industrial?
21:36.33neeneecheck wowwiki for patch mirrors
21:36.35neeneegnite
21:36.42FISKER_QThat's what i was thinking
21:36.43FISKER_Q(rawr)
21:36.52knarf^www.fileshacl.com you can get them there :)
21:36.57knarf^fileshack*
21:36.58knarf^:>
21:38.32Industrialgot it thanks
21:39.19Uhuru`Industrial www.clubic.com
21:40.45Uhuru`http://www.clubic.com/patch-jeux-video-451-0-world-of-warcraft.html
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21:45.07Industrialgot it
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21:51.12zorkmid25WoW sucks
21:51.24JoshBorkeyou got it
21:52.17JoshBorkeyou shouldn't play if you don't like something
21:52.17zorkmid25i dont
21:52.17zorkmid25just letting you guys know it sucks
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21:52.17JoshBorkeoh, ok.  i'm glad you are so strongly opinionated on the matter
21:52.18zorkmid25I should know.
21:52.19JoshBorkeit's good to have vigor and be enthusiastic
21:53.22JoshBorkeyou're right, you should know what your opinions are, otherwise you could be one of the mindless masses
21:53.42zorkmid25right.
21:54.00zorkmid25want to know why it sucks?
21:54.07JoshBorkenot particularly
21:54.24NightHawkTheSaneif you don't like it, and you don't play it, you're welcome to leave.
21:56.49Punkie`man, i'm so glad someone decided to load up irc, connect to the server /and/ join this channel for that bit of info
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21:58.45zorkmid25keep wasting your time on this "game"
21:58.58Uhurunova mage nerf sucks ^^ :/
21:59.16Uhuruzorkmid25 and ?
21:59.40Heriomore of an ice lance nerf...
21:59.45Uhuruwhat's the problem if we like to waste our time on wow ?
22:00.29UhuruHerio i still not understand why they hadn't put a CD on ice lance instead of this fucking nova nerf :/
22:00.35kenlyricI used to think I wasted my time on this game.
22:00.42kenlyricThen I quit and realized I was bored.
22:00.50Punkie`You used to bot, that was clearly no time wasted
22:01.02Punkie`unless you were doing nothing at the time, then it was wasting time
22:01.03Punkie`:D
22:01.06kenlyricmeh, I botted alts at work. I still played entire too much on my priest :)
22:01.20Feldiazorkmid25: which is worse
22:01.22Feldiaus wasting time on a game
22:01.31Feldiaor you going out of your way, and wasting time, complaining about that same game
22:01.32Feldia?
22:01.35Punkie`haha
22:01.49evl_i dunno, he got me at the nick sounding like it belongs in #teenchat
22:01.50kenlyricwell, both provided needed social interaction.
22:01.55Punkie`that's like dividing by zero
22:01.57Punkie`oh wait
22:01.59Punkie`..
22:02.01Punkie`no!
22:02.04Feldialol
22:02.16kenlyricthough one seeks positive reinforcement while the other seeks negative.
22:02.22HarshmageFolks, stop, you're feeding zork....he/she/it is enjoying causing problems.
22:02.36Punkie`We're feeding it with a spork
22:02.43kenlyricmeh, it's the only thing going on right now.
22:02.49Feldiaindeed
22:02.53Feldiabetter than tile hopping while dinner cooks
22:03.00evl_Harshmage: maybe he wiil turn into zorklate40s
22:03.01Harshmageand zorkmid25, help or hinder, choose one, and get out.
22:04.30Punkie`Well he turned out to be fruitful in his knowledge about "WoW sucks"
22:07.23Punkie`I bet he's actually playing wow and forgot to tab back out
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22:08.43Feldiahah
22:10.45zorkmid25WoW sucks
22:11.10zorkmid25i was wrestling my kid
22:11.25zorkmid25so what are you WoW addicts talking about?
22:11.47Punkie`WoW
22:11.48Punkie`duh
22:12.58zorkmid25Feldia:  IVe wated like 15 minutes here, and I feel that if I can open even one set of eyes that my time not be wasted at all.
22:13.04Heron_zorkmid25: OMFGLOLZ u r nab!
22:13.08Punkie`haha
22:13.18Punkie`zorkmid25, so i herd u liek mudkips
22:13.19NightHawkTheSaneWe were discussing the finer points of your idiocy. Fascinating, truly.
22:13.35Punkie`he didn't like mudkips?
22:13.36Punkie`:(
22:13.58Heron_it seems he didn't open that many eyes, shameful
22:14.11Punkie`think of the mudkips :(
22:14.20NightHawkTheSaneThe poor, poor mudkips?
22:14.31Punkie`yesh :(
22:15.48Punkie`NightHawkTheSane: Code me an ingame mudkip :(
22:16.15NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: I believe [Ammo] said it best. "no way jose"
22:16.21Punkie`ah man
22:16.47Punkie`I'ma chargin' mah lazer at [Ammo]
22:16.49Punkie`anyway
22:17.04NightHawkTheSaneman. I'm being out leveled by a paladin. That's kind of humiliating. :P
22:17.17Punkie`HEROESYou should be ashamed
22:17.31CIA-1803gagorian * r29711 10DrDamage/ItemSets.lua:
22:17.31CIA-18DrDamage:
22:17.31CIA-18-And one more relic...
22:17.35Punkie`HEROESalthough zorkmid25 would be proud
22:17.37Punkie`HEROESthink about it
22:24.06Cartas*Is a noob* Where does one find the logs created by transcriptor?
22:24.58OverloadUT|WorkWhat class is typically the fastest to level?
22:26.14ZealotOnAStickCartas: in the non-char specific SavedVariables folder.
22:26.26CartasAh, they only get put there if I logout, I assume?
22:26.33ZealotOnAStickOverloadUT: Hmm.  Can vary.  Mage, Hunter, Rogue have all been popular candidates for that.
22:26.46ZealotOnASticka /rl should do it.
22:28.02CartasThanks old chap.
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22:40.12yacoobwhoa.
22:40.19yacoobPrayer of mending is *awesome* on BG.
22:40.30yacoobtwo priests taking down two rogues.
22:40.40KemayoHeh.  My Pirates of the Caribbean beta key just showed up.  :D
22:41.55ckknightwhat's PoM do?
22:43.06Industrialdoes bt3 have its own button coloring?
22:44.55kergothwhen people say PoM, i always think presence of mind
22:45.03ckknightdoes BT3 have a way to turn off the macro names?
22:45.12ckknightso it just shows the icon and not the name?
22:45.16NightHawkTheSanekergoth: same :\
22:45.49NightHawkTheSaneckknight: prayer of mending heals you when you get hit, then jumps to a nearby party member and does the same thing for htem
22:46.58ckknightalright
22:47.10ckknightmy pally's still cool, though, right?
22:48.37NightHawkTheSaneyes, you're pally is still cool
22:48.43ckknightgrammar.
22:48.58ckknightI was actually doing PvP today
22:49.01ckknightas lvl 23
22:49.04ckknightto kill time
22:49.11ckknightand I totally took down a lvl 29 warrior
22:49.18NightHawkTheSaneyour, my apologies
22:49.25ckknightwas awesome
22:49.37ckknightand I didn't cheap out with bubble-healing
22:49.51ckknightjust lots and lots of stuns and whacking
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22:56.27RaydenUniso i was using KTM last night
22:56.36RaydenUniit doesn't seem to properly reflect the threat...
22:56.49RaydenUnimy threat would be way below the main tank but then the mob would go after me
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22:58.24GagorianRaydenUni: Well the mob is very likely to have some threat reset move
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23:12.14zorkmid25WoW sucks
23:12.32ZealotOnAStickPlease, do enlighten us as to precisely why.
23:12.45NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: don't encourage him
23:12.59Punkie`HEROEShaha
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23:13.28Punkie`WoW is cool
23:13.40zorkmid25boot him!  he has an opinion!
23:13.42ZealotOnAStickno no, his first visit was trite and uninformative.  He aired an opinion with zero reasoning.
23:13.56zorkmid25Zealot, what was unclear?
23:13.58ZealotOnAStickReally, if I were to rate him on a troll scale, I'd have to go negative.
23:14.01Antiarc|WorkSomeone give me their guild and server!
23:14.13zorkmid25Das Ubel - thrall
23:14.15ZealotOnAStickBlackhand US, Warfare
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23:14.31Punkie`Kazzak-EU - BOON Control!!!!
23:14.41Punkie`We rock, except from Ammo
23:15.06Antiarc|WorkZealotOnAStick: Processing...
23:15.47Punkie`zorkmid25 sucks
23:15.48Antiarc|Workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/compare/warfare-comparison.html
23:16.02zorkmid25lol
23:16.10NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: hmm, who are you there? couple of my friends are/were in that guild
23:16.40zorkmid25You dont have FRIENDS in guilds, unless they are RL friends
23:17.34Punkie`What does the first FRIENDS stand for, since it's in caps?
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23:18.04Antiarc|WorkFree Ride In Every Needed Dinner Scenario
23:18.05fatbrainWhat bag replacement mod do you guys use?
23:18.08ZealotOnAStickTenebra
23:18.19NightHawkTheSaneAhh
23:18.22Punkie`OneBag
23:18.26zorkmid25lol @ antiarc
23:18.26NightHawkTheSanefatbrain: Baggins
23:18.47fatbrainNightHawkTheSane: Does that also display bank content?
23:18.49ZealotOnAStickWho d'you know who are/were in Warfare?
23:18.53NightHawkTheSanefatbrain: yes
23:18.59NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: Isiltari & Cebryn
23:19.00Antiarc|WorkZealotOnAStick: That's Armory data.
23:19.00fatbrainNightHawkTheSane: nice
23:19.03ZealotOnAStickIsi!
23:19.14ZealotOnAStickIsi visits entirely too seldom.
23:19.21Antiarc|WorkI have a script that pulls guild roster data from the armory, then looks up character data and compiles it into sortable tables.
23:19.29Antiarc|WorkI'm rather proud of it :D
23:19.35Punkie`Antiarc|Work: Are you able to compile that from the EU version?
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23:19.45Antiarc|WorkPunkie`: Is there an EU armory up?
23:19.46Punkie`It would be pretty helpful for me actually :)
23:19.46zorkmid25really antiarc?
23:19.47NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: heh, yeah, she's playing mostly on laughing skull right now. That is when she plays, silly working and all :P
23:19.49Punkie`of course
23:19.52Antiarc|WorkReally really.
23:19.54Antiarc|WorkWhat's the URL?
23:19.55zorkmid25haha
23:20.01Punkie`http://armory.wow-europe.com
23:20.05Antiarc|WorkOk, one sec
23:20.07Antiarc|WorkName/server?
23:20.16Punkie`BOON Control - Kazzak
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23:20.33fatbrainNightHawkTheSane: can I also look at my bank-items while I'm not at the bank? Like what Bagnon used to have
23:20.48NightHawkTheSanefatbrain: no, not with baggins. :\
23:20.53fatbrainarg... too bad
23:20.56rubikAntiarc|Work: any way you could share your work so i can pull my guild's data?
23:21.17Punkie`You can do it with OneView, but I think you need OneBag and OneBank though.
23:21.24Antiarc|Workhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/compare/compare.rb is the script
23:21.28rubikoh
23:21.30fatbrainPunkie`: thanks, I'll stick with that
23:21.36rubikthx.. will check it out
23:21.48zorkmid25anyone know how to track players that have left a server ?>
23:21.49zorkmid25?
23:22.02NightHawkTheSanefatbrain: I use sanity to view bank/alt contents, so *shrug*
23:22.11OverloadUT|Workzorkmid25: You mean like from a server transfer?
23:22.11Antiarc|WorkHm. Gimme a bit, Punkie`
23:22.14Antiarc|WorkIt's not playing nice
23:22.21Punkie`oke
23:23.38fatbrainNightHawkTheSane: sanity... checking
23:24.20zorkmid25overlord: yes
23:24.44OverloadUT|Workzorkmid25: I don't think there is a way. When I transferred I had to copy over all my SV and do a find/replace for the server and character name
23:24.49OverloadUT|WorkAnd even then it didn't get everything
23:24.50Antiarc|WorkPunkie`: It's giving me an error when I try to hit http://armory.wow-europe.com/guild-info.xml?r=Kazzak&n=BOON+Control&p=1
23:24.58Antiarc|WorkAnd my script is encountering the same error
23:25.17Arrowmasterwhat language is that?
23:25.23Antiarc|WorkRuby
23:25.28zorkmid25i figured warcraftrealms.com might do it, but I dont think it does
23:25.36konnice work Antiarc|Work :)
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23:25.56Punkie`Antiarc|Work: weird, I don't know the problem
23:26.05Antiarc|WorkIt might just be their server being odd
23:26.10Antiarc|WorkBut I can't get the data if it won't give it to me :/
23:26.16Industrialtee hee im such a lying sonovabitch :D  http://tinyurl.com/3aage3
23:26.30Punkie`I don'tthink the european version of the guild list works very well anyhow
23:26.35Antiarc|WorkAhh
23:26.37Punkie`I don't ever remember being able to use it
23:26.37Antiarc|WorkThat could be it then.
23:26.56Punkie`Anyways, good night people
23:27.05Punkie`Great work Antiarc|Work, hopefully europe will be working soon :)
23:27.12Antiarc|WorkIndeed :)
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23:48.07Industrialnevcairiel: ping
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23:52.21Industrialnevcairiel: http://tinyurl.com/2vuhv9
23:52.32Industrialnevcairiel: hovering over scale makes the bar reset its position to default
23:52.47Industrialwell, I setpointed it myself actually
23:52.52Industrial(not with bt3)
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